| 00:00.09 | azeem | maybe you should explain what your problem is? |
| 00:00.39 | five0 | very constructive |
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| 00:01.05 | Mitja | How do I mount usb? |
| 00:01.13 | azeem | as far as I can tell, you're asking people to tell you which version of debootstrap they might have lying around in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 00:03.15 | Mitja | abrotman, I have the same question as sbk had, but dmesg doesn't work for me this time. Any clues? |
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| 00:03.38 | abrotman | Mitja: need a bit more details |
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| 00:03.44 | abrotman | !tell Mitja about usb storage |
| 00:03.48 | abrotman | !tell Mitja about vfatrw |
| 00:03.55 | Mitja | what details? |
| 00:04.13 | dvs | Mitja: USB camera? joystick? fan? what? |
| 00:04.35 | Mitja | pen/storage |
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| 00:05.21 | Jemt | Is it possible to install Gnome without ie Abiword, CDRecord etc. ? 'apt-get install gnome' includes a lot of tools I don't need |
| 00:05.34 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 00:05.34 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 00:05.48 | robin_sz | bah, as I installed libphp-adodb, it told me someting useful about mdifying php.ini .. which I ignored, how can I see that again? and yes, I already tried removing and re-installing |
| 00:05.49 | Jemt | abrotman: Great, thanks, mate :) |
| 00:05.57 | robin_sz | and dkpg -- configure |
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| 00:06.42 | rhalff | hi what is the best pda to run debian on ? the sharp zaurus ? |
| 00:07.15 | Jemt | Ah, Debian sure is great ^^ |
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| 00:08.39 | rhalff | this one is kinda cool http://pocketworkstation.org/img/sl-c750.jpg :) |
| 00:09.06 | Jemt | Hehe, yea :) |
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| 00:10.04 | rhalff | hm $899 :) |
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| 00:10.22 | Gnurdux | how long will it take for tightvncserver to make it into deb testing again? |
| 00:10.31 | abrotman | rhalff: probably the zaurus .. or the .. uhm .. nokia 770 |
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| 00:10.48 | abrotman | !why is tightvncserver not in testing |
| 00:10.48 | dpkg | tightvncserver is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=tightvncserver |
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| 00:11.59 | rhalff | abrotman, I think it even beats buying a normal laptop: http://dynamism.com/sl-c3000/main.shtml |
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| 00:14.49 | amphi | rhalff: 640x480? ugh |
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| 00:15.46 | amphi | rhalff: get the stinkpad in the background of the image you posted ;) |
| 00:16.01 | Mitja | cat /proc/partitions outputs sdb and sdb1, but /dev/sdb* don't exist. How can I mount usb-storage removable media? |
| 00:16.21 | Gnurdux | abrotman, i know why |
| 00:16.28 | abrotman | amphi: FFS .. the screen is 5x3.5 inches :) |
| 00:16.31 | Gnurdux | i want to know how long it will take to fix on amd64 |
| 00:16.40 | abrotman | Gnurdux: amd64 isn't listed there |
| 00:16.40 | Gnurdux | *ia64 |
| 00:16.49 | abrotman | Gnurdux: SIYH |
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| 00:16.51 | Blissex | Mitja: 'man MAKEDEV' to create the '/dev/sdb*' things |
| 00:16.56 | Gnurdux | cause its that + 10 |
| 00:17.04 | Gnurdux | !siyh |
| 00:17.04 | dpkg | it has been said that siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
| 00:17.04 | amphi | abrotman: heh |
| 00:17.10 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 00:17.15 | Blissex | Mitja: or else check 'udev' and the 'sd_mod' module. |
| 00:17.22 | Gnurdux | nor do I know asm |
| 00:17.31 | Jemt | Hm, what should I add after dpkg-reconfigure in order to modify X ? Something like 'dpkg-reconfigure XFree86' i guess |
| 00:17.41 | abrotman | Gnurdux: it doesn't involve ASM .. read the build log |
| 00:17.46 | Gnurdux | and the one from unstable gives an error |
| 00:17.46 | abrotman | !drxx Jemt |
| 00:17.46 | dpkg | Jemt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:18.01 | Jemt | Thanks :) |
| 00:18.05 | Gnurdux | gcc -c -O2 -ggdb -ansi -pedantic -I. -I../include -I../../.././/exports/include/X11 -I../../.././/include/extensions -I../../.././/lib/Xau -I../lbx -I../../.././ -I../../.././/exports/include -Dlinux -D__ia64__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE -DFD_SETSIZE=2048 -D_REENTRANT -DSHAPE -DGCCUSESGAS -DSTATIC_COLOR -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -D_XSERVER6 |
| 00:18.05 | Gnurdux | 4 -DNDEBUG -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DXSERV_t -DTRANS_SERVER -DUNIXCONN -DTCPCONN -DINTERNAL_MALLOC -DHASXDMAUTH -DDDXOSINIT -DSERVER_LOCK -DDDXOSFATALERROR -DDDXTIME -DPART_NET -DUSE_RGB_TXT xalloc.c |
| 00:18.05 | Gnurdux | In file included from /usr/include/asm/intrinsics.h:19, |
| 00:18.06 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:18.09 | abrotman | idiot |
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| 00:18.21 | abrotman | Gnurdux: do you have an IA64 box? |
| 00:18.22 | Gnurdux | sry.. but how does that not involve ASM? |
| 00:18.26 | Gnurdux | no |
| 00:18.36 | Gnurdux | just i386s |
| 00:18.41 | rhalff | amphi, it wasn't really meant as a desktop replacement that sharp thing :) |
| 00:18.41 | abrotman | so why are you building it for amd64? |
| 00:18.44 | abrotman | err .. ia64 |
| 00:18.52 | Gnurdux | abrotman, thats the build log |
| 00:18.59 | Gnurdux | thats why it can't go in testing |
| 00:19.09 | Jemt | what?? XFree has not been installed even though I installed Gnome. XFree got to be a dependency |
| 00:19.17 | robin_sz | -D__ia64__ -D__ia64__ -D__ia64__ |
| 00:19.21 | pipeline | Jemt: Why? |
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| 00:19.31 | pipeline | Jemt: You don't need an X *server* to run gnome. You could run the display on a terminal. |
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| 00:19.51 | abrotman | Gnurdux: it's C or C++ |
| 00:19.54 | robin_sz | Gnurdux, if you build it for ia64, dont be suprised whenit fails on 1386 |
| 00:20.10 | Jemt | pipeline: Really? Oh, ok :) |
| 00:20.19 | abrotman | robin_sz: he's looking at http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=tightvnc&ver=1.2.9-15&arch=ia64&stamp=1149740786&file=log&as=raw |
| 00:20.33 | Gnurdux | /usr/include/asm/gcc_intrin.h:27: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'asm' |
| 00:20.45 | Gnurdux | abrotman, ahh your right |
| 00:21.00 | Gnurdux | why does it build on other architectures tho? |
| 00:21.08 | abrotman | because ia64 sucks? |
| 00:21.22 | Gnurdux | hehe it does |
| 00:21.31 | abrotman | Gnurdux: how about you help them figure out why |
| 00:21.31 | Gnurdux | then why does debian require that shit builds on it? |
| 00:21.46 | abrotman | usr/include/asm/gcc_intrin.h:27: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'asm' |
| 00:21.59 | abrotman | Gnurdux: to piss you off |
| 00:21.59 | Gnurdux | ah thats a system error |
| 00:22.03 | Gnurdux | not in that package |
| 00:22.23 | amphi | rhalff: uhuh - it looks nice, good enough for a shell anyway, after you've got rid of all that gui junk ;) |
| 00:22.31 | Gnurdux | interesting |
| 00:22.44 | abrotman | regardless .. still doesn't build |
| 00:22.53 | Gnurdux | does anyone use ia64 debian? |
| 00:23.07 | abrotman | sure check popcon |
| 00:23.16 | Jemt | !mouse |
| 00:23.17 | dpkg | somebody said mouse was if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG, or http://www.experiencescompany.com/SentImages/Bless%20This%20Mouse.jpg |
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| 00:23.48 | abrotman | Jemt: ? |
| 00:24.11 | Jemt | Hm, which device is usually pointing to the trackpoint of an IBM Thinkpad? /dev/input/mice dosn't seem to work |
| 00:24.24 | abrotman | modprobe mousedev |
| 00:24.56 | Jemt | "mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice" |
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| 00:25.25 | halibut | any bandwidth monitor type programs, where I can clearly see up/down ? |
| 00:26.03 | cafuego | real-time or just graphed? |
| 00:26.35 | robin_sz | bah, as I installed libphp-adodb, it told me someting useful about mdifying php.ini .. which I ignored, how can I see that again? and yes, I already tried removing and re-installing |
| 00:27.08 | robin_sz | halibut, for graphed try mrtg |
| 00:27.30 | abrotman | robin_sz: look in the files in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ related to libphp-adodb |
| 00:27.33 | halibut | robin_sz, I remember I used to have a little thing sitting in kde panel but can't remember what it's called |
| 00:27.37 | Jemt | !xfree |
| 00:27.38 | dpkg | i heard xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
| 00:27.44 | abrotman | Jemt: what? |
| 00:27.54 | Jemt | abrotman: I'm looking for answers myself |
| 00:27.59 | abrotman | Jemt: then please /msg the bot |
| 00:28.05 | robin_sz | halibut, in KDE? was it called "unecessary bloat" ?? |
| 00:28.06 | Jemt | I need to know how to get X (with Gnome) running |
| 00:28.18 | Jemt | Oh, wasn't aware that was possible. Thanks |
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| 00:28.28 | abrotman | Jemt: apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core gnome-core |
| 00:28.42 | halibut | no, I think it might have been called "I wasn't comming here to ask which WM I should use" robin_sz, can't remember though |
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| 00:29.09 | Jemt | abrotman: Thanks - I'll give it a try |
| 00:29.22 | amphi | halibut: ;) |
| 00:29.47 | meppl | gute nacht |
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| 00:31.55 | Jemt | Hm, X is still not working. I have installed gdm, x-window-system-core, xfree86 and gnome-desktop-environment. I also ran 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and had it setup the way I usually setup Ubuntu (based on Debian) |
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| 00:33.11 | amphi | !ubuntusmite Jemt |
| 00:33.40 | abrotman | Jemt: what is you video card? lspci | grep VGA |
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| 00:33.57 | Jemt | abrotman: It's an ATI Mobility M6 card (using the 'ati' driver) |
| 00:33.59 | abrotman | mmm .. pepper jack |
| 00:34.06 | abrotman | Jemt: lspci | grep VGA |
| 00:34.10 | Jemt | abrotman: Ok |
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| 00:34.46 | abrotman | i doubt the ati driver works iwth that card .. maybe radeon |
| 00:34.58 | abrotman | if not that .. try vesa .. at least to see if it works at all |
| 00:34.59 | Jemt | abrotman: "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY" |
| 00:35.11 | Jemt | abrotman: It works in Ubuntu |
| 00:35.16 | abrotman | Jemt: try radeon .. then try vesa |
| 00:35.18 | Jemt | Ok |
| 00:35.21 | Jemt | Thanks :) |
| 00:35.30 | abrotman | Jemt: and ubuntu uses Xorg .. and probably has the binary crap ati drivers |
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| 00:36.18 | Jemt | abrotman: Yep |
| 00:36.46 | Jemt | Wow, VESA works :D |
| 00:36.49 | abrotman | debian does not include those binary drivers .. you have to do a bit of extra work for those |
| 00:36.51 | Jemt | No mouse though |
| 00:37.00 | abrotman | bah .. mice are for weenies :) |
| 00:37.04 | Jemt | No problem - I don't need hardware accelleration :) |
| 00:37.08 | Jemt | abrotman: LOL :p |
| 00:37.17 | abrotman | Jemt: the radeon driver doesn't work either ? |
| 00:37.24 | Jemt | abrotman: Hard using Gimp without a mouse ;) |
| 00:37.36 | abrotman | Jemt: one pixel at a time .. one pixel at a time |
| 00:37.40 | Jemt | abrotman: Give me a sec - I just thought I would test the safe bet first :) |
| 00:37.46 | Jemt | abrotman: Hehe :p |
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| 00:38.34 | Jemt | abrotman: Am I blind? I can't see the Radeon driver.. |
| 00:38.58 | abrotman | Jemt: eh .. maybe it's not part of xfree .. been a long time since i used it |
| 00:39.21 | Jemt | Heh, ok. I would prefer x.org too |
| 00:39.29 | Jemt | Wasn't in the repos though |
| 00:39.41 | abrotman | if you want it .. it is unofficially available |
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| 00:40.13 | Jemt | Oh ? And stable too ? |
| 00:40.20 | amphi | Jemt: ati in the xfree config |
| 00:40.30 | Jemt | amphi: ? |
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| 00:40.37 | Jemt | amphi: Dosn't work |
| 00:41.03 | Jemt | Damn mouse. Just wont work.. Weird |
| 00:41.07 | abrotman | amphi: it's a radeon mobility m6 .. i don't think the ati driver works with that |
| 00:41.18 | abrotman | Jemt: look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log for EE lines |
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| 00:41.52 | amphi | Jemt: does man radeon mention your card there? I'm on the xorg backport here |
| 00:41.58 | Jemt | abrotman: Concerning the mouse ? |
| 00:42.07 | abrotman | yep |
| 00:42.20 | Jemt | amphi: 'man radeon' ? |
| 00:42.29 | amphi | Jemt: the xorg radeon page mentions "RV100 Radeon 7000(VE), M6" |
| 00:42.33 | amphi | Jemt: yes |
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| 00:43.43 | Jemt | Same here |
| 00:43.58 | abrotman | i don't understand why there's no radeon driver .. it should be there |
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| 00:44.24 | Jemt | abrotman: There is no lines containing EE in that file |
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| 00:44.40 | abrotman | Jemt: i'm more concerned about the lack of the m6 driver |
| 00:44.40 | Jemt | abrotman: Maybe the module is not loaded ? |
| 00:44.47 | Jemt | abrotman: Oh, ok :) |
| 00:44.55 | abrotman | there is no ati module ? |
| 00:45.26 | sng | No no no. There is no spoon, silly. |
| 00:45.35 | abrotman | spork! |
| 00:45.50 | dvs | fpoon |
| 00:46.04 | Jemt | abrotman: 'ati' is listed in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, yes |
| 00:46.11 | abrotman | eh ..weird |
| 00:46.21 | Jemt | Very |
| 00:46.23 | Jemt | What ?? |
| 00:46.28 | Jemt | Not it worked with ATI |
| 00:46.31 | Jemt | What the.. |
| 00:46.41 | abrotman | now it worked? |
| 00:46.43 | Jemt | Yep |
| 00:46.47 | Jemt | Using ATI now |
| 00:46.51 | abrotman | ok .. good |
| 00:46.54 | abrotman | but still no mosue? |
| 00:46.56 | Jemt | Yep , thanks :) |
| 00:46.57 | Jemt | sec |
| 00:47.05 | Jemt | Nope, dead as a .. dead mouse |
| 00:47.18 | abrotman | ok .. so you chose /dev/input/mice ? |
| 00:47.27 | abrotman | is the mousedev module loaded? |
| 00:47.36 | Jemt | Yep. And it is a TrackPoint on a laptop (that red little dot, you know) |
| 00:47.42 | abrotman | i have a thinkpad .. i know it :) |
| 00:47.46 | Jemt | abrotman: Don't know. How can I check that ? |
| 00:47.50 | Jemt | abrotman: Hehe, ok :) |
| 00:47.50 | abrotman | lsmod |
| 00:48.22 | Jemt | mousedev is loaded, yes |
| 00:48.26 | pipeline | Jemt: I should have been more specific -- there are graphical terminals, and X11 "client" software can display on just about any ole' thing. You don't have to have an X11 'server' installed locally to run gnome, because you could conceivably have the display elsewhere. |
| 00:48.51 | abrotman | Jemt: are you IRCing from this box ? |
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| 00:49.04 | Jemt | pipeline: Oh, I see. Thanks, that makes more sense now :) |
| 00:49.14 | Jemt | abrotman: Nope - from another computer |
| 00:49.21 | abrotman | Jemt: but you are ssh'ed in ? |
| 00:49.40 | Jemt | abrotman: Nope - it half a meter from me :) |
| 00:49.40 | amphi | abrotman: on the xorg backport, only 'ati' appears in dpkg-reconfigure, but the module is called radeon, as is the manpage; X appears to use the radeon module whether you put 'ati' or 'radeon' in xorg.conf |
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| 00:50.01 | Jemt | amphi: Ah, that's why - thanks :) |
| 00:50.02 | abrotman | amphi: there's a reason for that .. but in xfree .. it is different iIRC |
| 00:50.10 | Jemt | oh |
| 00:50.22 | abrotman | Jemt: eh .. ok .. uhm .. i want to peek at your X log .. can you ssh into the box ? |
| 00:50.34 | abrotman | use putty or something |
| 00:50.54 | Jemt | abrotman: I have not setup sshd - but I can upload the file if you want (?) |
| 00:51.12 | abrotman | Jemt: eh .. ok .. /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 00:51.19 | Jemt | Sec :) |
| 00:51.20 | amphi | abrotman: ah... I can't recall exactly about xfree86 |
| 00:51.37 | abrotman | amphi: who made that decision .. sarge with xfree .. wtf :) |
| 00:52.32 | amphi | abrotman: Jemt: there is man radeon but no man ati on xfree86/sarge |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:52.52 | Jemt | Okay |
| 00:53.00 | Jemt | Log : www.powerzone.dk/log.txt |
| 00:53.42 | Jemt | Btw - thanks for helping me out with all this :) |
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| 00:54.22 | amphi | Jemt: heh, xfree86 has in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers both ati_drv.o and radeon_drv.o |
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| 00:54.33 | ru | hi guys |
| 00:54.36 | buzzcap | Why use Debian over a distribution like Ubuntu? |
| 00:54.42 | ru | I am having trouble with speaker-test |
| 00:54.47 | ru | (my sound is working) |
| 00:54.51 | ru | it outputs: Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory |
| 00:54.55 | Jemt | buzzcap: Because the new release (Dapper) is crap. It has several bugs |
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| 00:55.02 | stew | buzzcap: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 00:55.06 | ru | i ran strace and I see it is trying to open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
| 00:55.07 | Jemt | buzzcap: But they are mostly related to laptops |
| 00:55.12 | ru | which doesnt exist |
| 00:55.14 | buzzcap | Jemt, Debian is better because it has no bugs? |
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| 00:55.37 | ru | I only have the following: pcmC0D0c pcmC1D0c pcmC1D0p pcmC1D1p pcmC1D2c pcmC1D2p |
| 00:55.40 | Jemt | buzzcap: Don't know - I'm performing my first Debian install today :) |
| 00:55.51 | amphi | Jemt: did you try manually replacing 'ati' with 'radeon' in your X config? |
| 00:55.55 | a-evol | uhm .... how do I update say, webmin from the version that's under sarge/stable to a newer one, in webmin panel it tells me I have to have a newer webmin to preform the update from there |
| 00:55.57 | buzzcap | Jemt, i am using debian but never used ubuntu |
| 00:55.59 | ru | From what I can see a 0 has been replaced with a 1 - it may have gotten my other sound devices muddled |
| 00:56.00 | Jemt | buzzcap: But I am giving up Ubuntu because of the old packages and the bugs in Dapper |
| 00:56.09 | buzzcap | Jemt, Dapper has old packages? |
| 00:56.15 | amphi | Jemt: bad bugs? |
| 00:56.17 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 00:56.18 | dpkg | webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 00:56.19 | stew | ru: it looks like you have two sound cards and the one you want is the second card not the first |
| 00:56.22 | buzzcap | !why debian |
| 00:56.22 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 00:56.35 | ru | Stew - yeah, how would I update it |
| 00:56.43 | Jemt | buzzcap: Nope, Dapper is pretty up2date. But they don't add or update packages after they release a new version. Then you are stuck with that versions |
| 00:56.50 | ru | stew: I just need to know which conf file to edit really |
| 00:56.56 | stew | ru: unload both drivers, and load the driver for the card you want to use |
| 00:57.07 | stew | ru: list them in the order you want them in /etc/modules |
| 00:57.09 | pipeline | Jemt: Well, that's how debian stable works. A more pressing concern with Ubuntu is that only about a thousand packages are guaranteed to work. The rest of "universe" is a crap shoot. |
| 00:57.22 | ru | stew: cool thanks |
| 00:57.33 | Jemt | amphi: laptop freezes, USB2 running USB1.1 speed, unstable speedstep technology and power management, lagging drivers that were included in the previous release etc. |
| 00:57.57 | buzzcap | stew, i noticed that totem in debian sarge is broken. it will not start for me. why is this? it says resource busy or unavailable |
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| 00:58.09 | Jemt | pipeline: I have never had problems with Universe nor Multiverse or Backports |
| 00:58.20 | amphi | Jemt: 2.6.10 had that ub b0rkage IIRC |
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| 00:58.38 | Jemt | amphi: That what? |
| 00:58.52 | amphi | Jemt: heh, sorry, usb problem |
| 00:59.03 | Jemt | abrotman: Are you able to figure out my mouse problem ? :) |
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| 00:59.07 | Jemt | amphi: Ah, hehe :) |
| 00:59.07 | AI_coder | I'm using a virtual host for my debian server, my question is why can't I see the sendmail process running, but when I nmap it, I see it available. Also when I try to start sendmail it tells me it can't bind a port? |
| 00:59.10 | stew | buzzcap: i don't know. does it say which resource? |
| 00:59.17 | abrotman | Jemt: you didn't prefix my nick .. i had no idea you pasted it :) |
| 00:59.20 | amphi | buzzcap: something has probably grabbed your sound device |
| 00:59.22 | abrotman | Jemt: looking now |
| 00:59.26 | Jemt | abchirk: Oh, sorry!:) |
| 00:59.32 | Jemt | abrotman: www.powerzone.dk/log.txt |
| 00:59.34 | Jemt | There you go :) |
| 00:59.37 | abrotman | i saw |
| 00:59.41 | Jemt | Okay :) |
| 00:59.47 | amphi | Jemt: did you try manually replacing 'ati' with 'radeon' in your X config? |
| 00:59.49 | buzzcap | stew, no it is just very general |
| 00:59.56 | stew | amphi: there is no reason to do that |
| 01:00.00 | stew | buzzcap: are you using alsa or oss? |
| 01:00.02 | ru | stew: I dont see em in /etc/modules |
| 01:00.07 | Jemt | amphi: Ah, nope - actually not. But ATI works fine now |
| 01:00.10 | stew | ru: put them in there |
| 01:00.16 | ru | oh ok |
| 01:00.24 | ru | how do i find out what they called exactly? |
| 01:00.27 | abrotman | Jemt: i wonder if the 2.4 kernel doesn't work with trackpoint and X |
| 01:00.31 | amphi | stew: what is the difference? |
| 01:00.37 | buzzcap | stew, i believe alsa |
| 01:00.48 | Jemt | abrotman: Am I running 2.4 ?? Eww :-S |
| 01:00.56 | buzzcap | stew, dont i just need alsa-base? |
| 01:00.58 | abrotman | Jemt: is it P4? |
| 01:00.59 | stew | amphi: the ati driver loads the radeon driver automatically when it detects a radeon, so there is no real benefit to specifying radeon |
| 01:01.07 | Jemt | abrotman: Nope, Pentium M |
| 01:01.11 | stew | buzzcap: try "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" |
| 01:01.17 | abrotman | Jemt: eh .. apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 01:01.19 | ru | stew: Would i look in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ? |
| 01:01.28 | stew | ru: put the output of 'lspci ; lspci -n' a pastebin |
| 01:01.30 | Jemt | abrotman: Sweet! :D |
| 01:01.42 | abrotman | Jemt: you're not running sata are you? |
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| 01:02.06 | Jemt | abrotman: Nope, plain Pata.. to my knowledge :) |
| 01:02.09 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:02.28 | Jemt | abrotman: Should I add the new kernel to the boot manager myself ? |
| 01:02.29 | goudkov | hi guys. is there a way to tell rsync to stick to only one file system? so when I specify / as the source, it would not go into /proc /sys /dev/shm etc. |
| 01:02.36 | abrotman | Jemt: should do it automagically |
| 01:02.42 | stew | goudkov: -x |
| 01:02.47 | goudkov | stew: thanks |
| 01:03.04 | Jemt | abrotman: Ok, good. Debian is great :D |
| 01:03.22 | abrotman | we'll see :) |
| 01:03.27 | coondog | ahhh debian |
| 01:03.30 | Jemt | True :) |
| 01:03.42 | Jemt | Now.. new kernel installed. Rebooting.. |
| 01:03.42 | coondog | I have not in 9 years of linux used debian, but it will begin |
| 01:03.57 | Jemt | coondog: What have you been using ? |
| 01:04.01 | coondog | all thanks to stew showing me there is a way |
| 01:04.03 | itchi | How could i know which screen resolution i currently have? |
| 01:04.13 | coondog | Jemt: mandrake -> redhat -> SuSE -> Gentoo |
| 01:04.18 | stew | itchi: if you are running x, xdpyinfo |
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| 01:04.31 | coondog | itchi: that's a lot of output though |
| 01:04.47 | itchi | coondog: How more how better :-) |
| 01:04.50 | Jemt | coondog: Ok. Gentoo is nice too - but I prefer pre-build packages - and Gentoo is a little to advanced for me :) |
| 01:04.52 | coondog | xpyinfo | grep resolution |
| 01:04.57 | Jemt | Booting new kernel.. |
| 01:05.09 | coondog | Jemt: oh no I see it more of a programmers environment you know |
| 01:05.14 | nimak | i was thinking about trying one of the BSDs, or perhaps another distro, whats good for someone who likes debian? |
| 01:05.21 | Jemt | coondog: Oh, ok :) |
| 01:05.22 | abrotman | Jemt: X started ? |
| 01:05.24 | coondog | because everything is built thus all sources & libs sit on your box, that's why I like it, it's my dev box |
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| 01:05.36 | coondog | nimak: freeBSD |
| 01:05.39 | Jemt | abrotman: Yep - and mouse is working ! |
| 01:05.49 | amphi | stew: ah, ok, I'd wondered if it was something like that, thanks |
| 01:05.50 | Jemt | abrotman: Man.. You are great ! Thank you SO much :D |
| 01:05.52 | tomsdimension | does anybody know a filesytem that is compatible with windoze and linux other than fat32 |
| 01:05.54 | buzzcap | stew, modprobe is not a program |
| 01:05.55 | coondog | nimak: don't mess with Net/Open |
| 01:05.56 | buzzcap | :( ? |
| 01:06.00 | ru | http://pastebin.com/722381 |
| 01:06.03 | abrotman | Jemt: yay! |
| 01:06.05 | itchi | How many is resolution: 96x96 dots per inch ? Or how could i calculate it? |
| 01:06.07 | stew | buzzcap: as root |
| 01:06.11 | abrotman | !explore2fs |
| 01:06.11 | dpkg | [explore2fs] a win32 utility that lets you read and write(at your own risk!) ext2 file systems under win9x/nt/2000. URL: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ [Ask me about ext2ifs] |
| 01:06.18 | stew | itchi: you want dimensions, not resolution |
| 01:06.21 | coondog | itchi: sorry grep dimensions |
| 01:06.30 | tomsdimension | dpkg, its a usb hd and some computers are restricted from installing drivers |
| 01:06.31 | dpkg | tomsdimension: okay |
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| 01:06.56 | RHyS | tomsdimension, ext2, (3) i think, and reiserfs are all read only in windows |
| 01:06.56 | tomsdimension | dpkg, can i install one where i dont need to install drivers? |
| 01:06.57 | stew | nimak: /msg dpkg debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 01:07.01 | Bitz | deadcat? |
| 01:07.03 | abrotman | dpkg: forget its |
| 01:07.04 | dpkg | abrotman: i forgot its |
| 01:07.05 | itchi | :-) i note it down, thanks guy |
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| 01:07.11 | abrotman | tomsdimension: dpkg is a bot |
| 01:07.13 | stew | !what are you |
| 01:07.14 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 01:07.17 | dvs | tomsdimension: you like talking to bots? |
| 01:07.20 | Jemt | Well, I should have been sleeping like a baby by now - I'd better head off to bed. But thanks alot you guys. Your help was great. Now I can start installing software in the morning :) |
| 01:07.27 | RHyS | lol |
| 01:07.30 | asdf_ | i'm having trouble installing gnome b/c of "broken packages" any ideas? |
| 01:07.30 | RHyS | yea...dpkg is a bot |
| 01:07.35 | stew | !forget its a usb hd and some computers |
| 01:07.35 | dpkg | i forgot its a usb hd and some computers, stew |
| 01:07.46 | Jemt | Night night, all :) |
| 01:07.54 | RHyS | lol |
| 01:07.55 | abrotman | whoops .. what was its? |
| 01:07.59 | abrotman | aptitude: its |
| 01:08.00 | aptitude | [its] the third person neuter singular possessive prononun -- "belonging to it". It does not have an apostrophe. "It's" is a contraction for "it is" and uses an apostrophe to denote removed letters. the Incompatible Timesharing System |
| 01:08.08 | abrotman | dpkg: its is the third person neuter singular possessive prononun -- "belonging to it". It does not have an apostrophe. "It's" is a contraction for "it is" and uses an apostrophe to denote removed letters. the Incompatible Timesharing System |
| 01:08.08 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
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| 01:08.57 | tomsdimension | is this the debian chat room or the english one |
| 01:09.09 | buzzcap | stew, i got no output |
| 01:09.12 | RHyS | tomsdimension...what do you need to do? |
| 01:09.15 | dvs | tomsdimension: pas de anglais |
| 01:09.26 | stew | buzzcap: that's good, now try whatever was giving you problems before |
| 01:09.26 | ru | stew: u get a chance to check my pastebin ? |
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| 01:09.38 | RHyS | pfft. parle anglais a hellva lot better than parle francais.. |
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| 01:09.39 | RHyS | :\ |
| 01:09.50 | buzzcap | stew, totem still crashes |
| 01:09.56 | stew | ru: looking now |
| 01:10.00 | RHyS | lol. talking a bot must have hurt his pride |
| 01:10.16 | stew | buzzcap: does "fuser /dev/dsp" return anything? |
| 01:10.33 | ru | stew: thanks man |
| 01:10.37 | itchi | It's looks that im with 16 bit color depts, I see not the diff between 16 and 24 |
| 01:10.45 | buzzcap | stew, i get output: /dev/dsp: 4667 |
| 01:10.48 | itchi | Good that i look |
| 01:10.54 | ru | stew: I have a cmedia sound card (should be default - /dev/dsp) and a webcam should be /dev/dsp0 |
| 01:11.03 | ru | or /dev/dsp1 rather |
| 01:11.15 | halibut | where are apache logs? |
| 01:11.15 | stew | buzzcap: yeah, then something is already using your sound card. "ps 4667" would tell you what |
| 01:11.44 | simonrvn | where all the other logs are, too. /var/log |
| 01:11.48 | buzzcap | stew, so i cant use totem and another program? |
| 01:12.02 | ru | halibut: should be /var/log/apache |
| 01:12.09 | halibut | thanks |
| 01:12.12 | ru | np |
| 01:12.14 | stew | buzzcap: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 01:12.27 | buzzcap | !dmix |
| 01:12.28 | dpkg | from memory, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
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| 01:13.04 | stew | ru: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 01:13.31 | ru | 2.6.15-25-686 |
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| 01:13.52 | stew | ru: oh, did you compile that kenrel? |
| 01:14.07 | ru | i did indeed :D |
| 01:14.48 | ru | my compiling skillZ are pretty limited so i may have messed stuff up hehe |
| 01:15.11 | stew | ru: do you know which module is for the webcam? |
| 01:15.21 | stew | ru: the module for your sound card is "snd_cmipci" |
| 01:15.42 | ru | lemme check |
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| 01:16.05 | stew | ru: you can probably determine the module for your webcam by running: grep "4444.*0803" /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap |
| 01:16.54 | ru | "quickcam" |
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| 01:17.39 | stew | ru: so try "modprobe -r quickcam ; modprobe -r snd_cpipci" which will remove both then "modprobe snd_cmipci ; modprobe quickcam" which should load them in the opposite order |
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| 01:17.44 | ru | so i rmmod them ? |
| 01:17.48 | ru | oh ok |
| 01:17.51 | stew | ru: if that works, list them in that order in /etc/modules |
| 01:17.59 | ru | modprobe -r has the same effect then I guess |
| 01:18.06 | ru | aaah cool i see what we doing |
| 01:18.11 | ru | thanks, lemme try |
| 01:18.15 | stew | ru: "modprobe -r" is smarter, it will unload dependent modules as well |
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| 01:18.23 | ru | sweet |
| 01:18.43 | ru | FATAL: Module snd_cpipci not found. |
| 01:18.45 | ru | hmm |
| 01:18.47 | itchi | 3D are not provided by the radeon module? |
| 01:18.55 | stew | ru: on the modprobe -r? |
| 01:19.06 | ru | yeah |
| 01:19.16 | stew | itchi: "man radeon" will tell you which chipsets it supports 3d for |
| 01:19.25 | stew | ru: that means it wasn't loaded inthe first place |
| 01:19.52 | itchi | stew: Arg: :-( it's look not |
| 01:19.56 | stew | ru: perhaps you have the oss "cpipci" module loaded (i think that's what its called) |
| 01:20.17 | stew | itchi: it should support up to the 9200 or maybe the 9250 now |
| 01:20.23 | simonrvn | it would say something else (or nothing) if it was loaded |
| 01:20.33 | itchi | stew: I have and 9600Se |
| 01:20.34 | ru | FATAL: Module cpipci not found. |
| 01:20.54 | itchi | stew: Eat well ;-) |
| 01:22.12 | ru | heh with stew gone, the knowledge in this channel just halved |
| 01:23.00 | itchi | How it's goes to get 3D working for an Ati 9600Se on an Etch box with xorg 7. Before '/msg dpkg ati' had been help on an Sarge box. But it's looks for Etch '/msg dpkg fglrx'. But there he complain of my version that are to new :-/ |
| 01:23.22 | simonrvn | do 'depmod -Aa'. then, do modprobe -l | grep -i cpipci . then try loading the snd_cpipci again if you get something from the grep. |
| 01:23.37 | simonrvn | ru: ^^ |
| 01:24.13 | simonrvn | might need to run depmod -a in addition to the first one |
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| 01:26.12 | Anti | anyone here good at gcc? |
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| 01:28.19 | simonrvn | Anti: ask your question |
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| 01:30.56 | epsilon | sth wrong with etch's apt-get? If I run update, it's looping and downloading .pdiff files over and over again |
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| 01:32.05 | simonrvn | that's normal |
| 01:32.32 | tato_ | whats the environment variable which controls where compilers look for libraries? |
| 01:32.58 | itchi | On an Etch box, I follow what dpkg tell to get 3D, so i do 'dpkg -i fglrx-driver_*deb fglrx-kernel-src_*deb' but then he complain about dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fglrx-driver: fglrx-driver depends on xserver-xorg (<< 7.0.99); however: Version of xserver-xorg on system is 1:7.0.22. |
| 01:33.10 | simonrvn | it's fetching what are basically diff files, and making a new list for that source, instead of downloading the whole Packages.{bz2,gz} file |
| 01:33.55 | Anti | I'm trying to compile something with g++ which uses a .so. I can't get it to compile when I include -lmy.so in the command line |
| 01:34.03 | Anti | -lmy I mean |
| 01:34.10 | simonrvn | itchi: the deps |
| 01:34.20 | Anti | but when remove the -l it works. why? |
| 01:34.49 | itchi | simonrvn: I not understand |
| 01:35.53 | itchi | simonrvn: What mean you ? |
| 01:35.54 | Stevie | Anti: I think you need to specify the sharedlib path |
| 01:36.02 | Stevie | if it's not in one of the 'usual' spots |
| 01:36.17 | Sivik | how do i go about activing a wireless radio in the acpi? |
| 01:36.52 | Anti | Stevie, well I put the path in -L |
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| 01:37.17 | cat | Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 01:37.17 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.21 | cat | (EE) Problem parsing the config file |
| 01:37.23 | cat | (EE) Error parsing the config file |
| 01:37.26 | cat | Fatal server error: |
| 01:37.26 | simonrvn | itchi: dependencies. it won't let you install the fglrx because the x it wants is an older version of what is present on the system. read up on them (deps) some time (man dpkg; man apt-get). |
| 01:37.28 | cat | no screens found |
| 01:37.31 | cat | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 01:37.33 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.36 | cat | any ideas im getting this error when i start X |
| 01:37.37 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 01:37.49 | simonrvn | please don't paste here |
| 01:37.55 | cat | sorry |
| 01:38.03 | linux2 | does anyone know how to install debian on a compaq server |
| 01:38.09 | linux2 | cause its not finding any of my hard drives |
| 01:38.13 | linux2 | they are all on scsi |
| 01:38.18 | simonrvn | cat: you have an error in your config |
| 01:38.25 | linux2 | one is on a compaq smart array controller |
| 01:38.30 | abrotman | simonrvn: you know .. i thought you moved? |
| 01:38.33 | itchi | simonrvn: Yes, that i understand that there are some troubles :-/ I need now to do 'apt-get -f install' to solve it, but that not solve my little trouble of 3D |
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| 01:38.40 | cat | simonrvn: i know that, how can i fixed this, |
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| 01:39.17 | simonrvn | abrotman: moved where? |
| 01:39.21 | cplx`wK | can someone please assist.. I have a client who can login to ther cpanel with a set of details, but cant login to ther ftp.domain.com for example.. any ideas what could be up? |
| 01:39.23 | abrotman | off fn |
| 01:39.23 | simonrvn | i'm in both |
| 01:39.24 | linux2 | anyone? |
| 01:39.25 | itchi | cat: You need to define an screen section in the /etc/X11/xfree_or_xorg or there are some troubles with that screen section |
| 01:39.28 | linux2 | help me with my server machine |
| 01:39.39 | linux2 | it has an EISA raid array controller |
| 01:39.45 | linux2 | and all drives are on scsi |
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| 01:39.49 | linux2 | but i am unable to get it to work |
| 01:40.00 | linux2 | debian installer says that it cannot find any hard drives |
| 01:40.02 | simonrvn | cat: it's telling you what's wrong. think about what it's saying |
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| 01:40.45 | simonrvn | cplx`wK: no, and we don't do cpanel |
| 01:40.48 | itchi | cat: Paste it on pastebin?? |
| 01:41.02 | cat | i don't really know what's going on |
| 01:41.07 | Z_Man | damn this jigdo, it's taking forever, it said it would take less time |
| 01:41.15 | cat | itchi: i can't i don't have X, or links and my laptop doesn't have internet, |
| 01:41.19 | pipeline | Z_Man: Should have gotten a netinst. |
| 01:41.34 | pipeline | Z_Man: despite the name, netinst doesn't require the net to install. |
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| 01:42.01 | itchi | cat: Look to the screen section in the config file |
| 01:42.06 | Z_Man | pipeline, i know |
| 01:42.20 | Z_Man | you can use a cd or dvd with packages |
| 01:42.21 | cat | okey |
| 01:42.22 | cat | im there |
| 01:42.43 | pipeline | Z_Man: No. The netinst disc itself has everything you need. |
| 01:42.44 | Z_Man | i just wanted a dvd |
| 01:42.55 | Z_Man | yeah.. without X right? |
| 01:43.32 | cat | im there itc\ |
| 01:43.34 | Z_Man | are there any torrents for the 2 debian dvds? |
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| 01:44.28 | itchi | cat: Look to my example http://pastebin.ca/68145 |
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| 01:44.53 | cplx`wK | simonrvn: its nothing related to cpanel.. its pure-ftpd |
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| 01:45.42 | simonrvn | so start by looking at the logs, and see what's going on |
| 01:45.50 | cplx`wK | where? /var/log ? |
| 01:45.52 | itchi | cat: Try to set an lower resolution, 16 depth |
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| 01:46.00 | cat | how? |
| 01:46.03 | simonrvn | yes. start at syslog |
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| 01:47.03 | cplx`wK | simonrvn: located where? |
| 01:47.07 | bluefox83 | how do i increase the volume output on a usb headset ? i turned the volume on the cable all the way up and i'm having trouble getting aumix to work correctly |
| 01:47.11 | cplx`wK | /var/log |
| 01:47.15 | cplx`wK | no syslog ther |
| 01:49.06 | abrotman | alsa? |
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| 01:50.40 | cplx`wK | can someone please assist.. I have a client who can login to ther cpanel with a set of details, but cant login to ther ftp.domain.com for example.. any ideas what could be up? |
| 01:50.49 | bluefox83 | yes using alsa |
| 01:51.07 | cplx`wK | bluefox83: sorry, alsa? |
| 01:51.22 | bluefox83 | cplx`wK, sorry that was to abrotman |
| 01:51.50 | abrotman | try .. alsamixer? |
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| 01:53.45 | simonrvn | cplx`wK: right. you sure you spelled it correctly? |
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| 01:55.36 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 01:55.53 | yassine | how do i unpack a .rar archieve in debian please ? |
| 01:56.00 | simonrvn | with unrar |
| 01:56.13 | yassine | i can not find any tool using aptitude |
| 01:56.20 | simonrvn | !unrar |
| 01:56.21 | dpkg | well, unrar is a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
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| 01:56.45 | simonrvn | !tell yassine about unrar-free |
| 01:57.23 | Anti | I compile a .so which links to other .so's. The path information to the .so's is being included into my build. I don't want that.. How can I fix this? |
| 01:57.26 | Anti | # ldd plugin.so |
| 01:57.26 | Anti | pathinformationhere/tier0_i486.so => not found |
| 01:57.26 | Anti | pathinformationhere/vstdlib_i486.so => not found |
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| 01:57.58 | abrotman | !searcg |
| 01:58.20 | simonrvn | abrotman: how's it going, guy? |
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| 01:58.43 | abrotman | simonrvn: my mac is still broken .. apple sucks :) |
| 01:58.54 | simonrvn | what's borked? |
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| 01:59.21 | abrotman | simonrvn: the OSX discs don't install on the mac .. they're tards |
| 01:59.22 | eps | what sort of user in their right mind finds a company excuse to use 2meg a minute! |
| 01:59.26 | simonrvn | and why haven't you asked #osx yet? :) |
| 01:59.26 | abrotman | that's right .. corporate tards! |
| 01:59.36 | simonrvn | ohnoz!!!11!!1 |
| 01:59.41 | abrotman | simonrvn: i asked #macosx .. and APLCARE .. and the apple store :) |
| 01:59.58 | eps | #mac also seems good |
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| 02:00.07 | simonrvn | and they won't give you the right cds? |
| 02:00.08 | abrotman | no really .. it's the manuf's fault |
| 02:00.13 | abrotman | simonrvn: they shipped them |
| 02:00.22 | simonrvn | i meant at the apple store |
| 02:00.36 | abrotman | NFC .. didn't have them? no idea |
| 02:00.42 | linux2 | does anyone know about scsi support in debian? |
| 02:00.50 | abrotman | it's there? |
| 02:00.57 | simonrvn | it's kernel dependent |
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| 02:01.10 | simonrvn | nothing to do with debian, except maybe how the kernels are configured |
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| 02:01.18 | simonrvn | (and patches) |
| 02:01.25 | crissi | hi |
| 02:01.31 | simonrvn | lo |
| 02:01.37 | linux2 | simonrvn, well what about getting a scsi smart array controller working |
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| 02:01.48 | eps | linux2, try it? |
| 02:02.03 | linux2 | simonrvn, mandriva (yes i know its evil) is able to find the first 3 drives on the onboard scsi controller |
| 02:02.10 | simonrvn | do the hardware detection again for instance ? |
| 02:02.12 | eps | we have a old compaq with scsi smart array here...it's very loud |
| 02:02.33 | linux2 | eps, that smart array card an EISA card? |
| 02:02.37 | _rockstar | I find that Qt Designer is the best thing ever |
| 02:02.51 | crissi | i have problems with x on debian unstable... after a reboot x starts up and then i came back to console. log says nothing interesting, i tried nvidia and nv driver and both are the same. whta it could be and how to fix that? |
| 02:02.51 | eps | linux2, that would require me to stand up and go and look... |
| 02:02.54 | eps | back in a moment |
| 02:02.59 | linux2 | eps |
| 02:03.01 | linux2 | thanks |
| 02:03.02 | linux2 | lol |
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| 02:03.08 | debian | proliant server right? |
| 02:03.19 | simonrvn | cat: clicked the wrong button? :) |
| 02:03.33 | linux2 | debian, its a proliant 3000 |
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| 02:03.50 | cat | not really :X |
| 02:04.02 | linux2 | it only has the original compaq smart array controller because the 3000 i have didn't have one but some older one did |
| 02:04.06 | linux2 | so i swapped the cards |
| 02:04.06 | debian | first of all you aren't going to install linux on that array are you? |
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| 02:04.27 | bluefox83 | ok, alsamixer doesn't have a tab for usb headset =( |
| 02:04.38 | linux2 | debian, no. but i am going to use them to backup important system files on my network after i get debian installed on one of the drives off of the array |
| 02:04.53 | eps | it looks to be cirus logic |
| 02:04.57 | abrotman | not much of an array then |
| 02:05.09 | linux2 | eps, humm. can't tell if its EISA? |
| 02:05.23 | debian | linux2: see if it helps? http://www.cpqlinux.com/smart.html |
| 02:05.26 | linux2 | eps, you need the original compaq smart array controller for it to be EISA |
| 02:05.42 | abrotman | !party |
| 02:05.42 | dpkg | i guess party is Lego, and alcohol |
| 02:05.49 | eps | linux2, my glasses are broken and it's under a mountian of cat5e and other pc's :P |
| 02:06.07 | debian | linux2: I know you're complaining about Debian's installer not being able to detect that array just like other installer did |
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| 02:06.10 | eps | we rarely look in the cubboard it's in |
| 02:06.24 | k-man__ | anyone here use crm114 discriminator for filtering their spam? |
| 02:06.52 | simonrvn | no, it's a bigot ;p |
| 02:07.35 | linux2 | debian, no im not complaining about that. im complaining about it being unable to find the drives off of the array when i run the installer |
| 02:07.56 | linux2 | debian, if i was able to see those drives i could install and then configure the array from the comfort of this PC |
| 02:08.03 | linux2 | cause the server room is very loud |
| 02:08.03 | debian | linux2: haha |
| 02:08.17 | _rockstar | Is there a GOOD source for Bluetooth phone pairing? I have read a variety of below par HOWTOs that all suck. |
| 02:08.32 | linux2 | debian, it is unable to find the 3 drives connected to the internal scsi card |
| 02:08.37 | linux2 | mandriva is able to find it |
| 02:08.47 | debian | linux2: not even *internal*? that's strange |
| 02:08.48 | linux2 | just so i know it is possible to be used in linux |
| 02:09.18 | crissi | the really strange thing is that kdm starts and if i try to login x goes away, same if i run startx from console |
| 02:09.21 | linux2 | debian, well the array card is on a eisa bus |
| 02:09.26 | debian | linux2: not only possible. Linux is known to exist in proliant. :) |
| 02:09.29 | linux2 | so im not surprised it doesn't find it |
| 02:09.50 | debian | linux2: but you're talking about not being able to recognize the internal drive |
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| 02:09.55 | debian | card |
| 02:09.59 | linux2 | yeah |
| 02:10.06 | debian | very strange |
| 02:10.06 | linux2 | debian = no |
| 02:10.09 | linux2 | mandriva = yes |
| 02:10.21 | linux2 | well im running debian netinstall |
| 02:10.24 | linux2 | could that be why? |
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| 02:11.28 | bluefox83 | how do i set debian to use a static ip so i can set up static routing on my router? |
| 02:11.32 | debian | I can't tell you why, this is the fisrt rule |
| 02:11.40 | dvs | bluefox83: man 5 interfaces |
| 02:11.50 | linux2 | debian, i will try the normal cd and see what happens |
| 02:11.53 | eps | linux2, nope the onboard array is cirrus logic (or adaptec...oddly designed mobo) though strangely enough I remember it being compaq cause we had a similar issue. |
| 02:12.08 | eps | mmm the server we had must have died at some point and this is a hot swap that never got swapped back |
| 02:12.14 | linux2 | eps, the array card on my machine is in an EISA slot |
| 02:12.21 | linux2 | pain in the ass to get it to work |
| 02:12.22 | linux2 | but it is |
| 02:12.31 | eps | linux2, mmm |
| 02:12.37 | debian | linux2: you've tried various boot option do you? |
| 02:12.51 | linux2 | debian, no just whatever enter runs |
| 02:12.58 | eps | linux2, personally I'd see if grub can handle it first...then try installing linux |
| 02:13.02 | linux2 | any things you have for options i should put in |
| 02:13.04 | debian | linux2: I don't know netinstall anyway, but the boot kernel should be the same |
| 02:13.24 | eps | debian, iirc the netinstall has cutdown basic driver sets for loading |
| 02:13.35 | debian | eps: that sux then |
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| 02:13.47 | eps | though I only use netinstall on my home box...I have full cd set for others installs and here at work |
| 02:13.52 | eps | so I have nfi outside of that :P |
| 02:14.15 | linux2 | well guys thanks. i will be back later with news if it works or not |
| 02:14.25 | linux2 | cause god forbid i have to install mandriva |
| 02:14.39 | linux2 | and i don't even belive in god, so even worse |
| 02:14.46 | nerdzyboy | Is there a place where I could get a *full* sources.list file for apt? (with most of the repositories) |
| 02:15.43 | abrotman | debian.org/mirrors |
| 02:16.34 | bluefox83 | ok, if i want a computer on my network to have a static ip inside my network only, for packet forwarding purposes... do i need to set a DNS name or gateway? |
| 02:16.50 | bluefox83 | i'm not having any other machine run through this one |
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| 02:17.33 | amphi | bluefox83: can you restate that? |
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| 02:17.53 | stormrider_may | Could someone tell me how can i install initng on Debian? Maybe seggest a tutorial? |
| 02:18.03 | stormrider_may | sugest* |
| 02:18.11 | simonrvn | 'suggest' :) |
| 02:18.31 | nerdzyboy | anyone? |
| 02:18.31 | dvs | slugfest? |
| 02:18.33 | hesco_ | Can anyone here please tell me what creates the /dev/usb heirarchy of nodes? |
| 02:18.42 | simonrvn | dvs: smokefest |
| 02:18.46 | bluefox83 | amphi, if i have no intentions of using my pc as a gateway, can i give it a static ip without setting up a DNS, gateway, or netmask? |
| 02:18.50 | dvs | oh yeah! ;-) |
| 02:19.07 | simonrvn | i don't smoke, but you might. figured you'd like that ;) |
| 02:19.21 | hesco_ | I just completed a new install and I don't have anything below /dev/usb, including /dev/usb/mouse and /dev/usb/lp0 which I now need |
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| 02:19.33 | dvs | simonrvn: I don't smoke but I like the atmosphere |
| 02:19.39 | simonrvn | *nods* |
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| 02:20.12 | Readon | what is the requirement for the program running in init files? |
| 02:20.13 | stormrider_may | simonrvn: sorry :P the keys on this old keyboard are hard to press |
| 02:20.40 | dvs | hesco_: it sounds like you're running udev |
| 02:20.41 | simonrvn | i used to... i have other things that i do now that required me to quit drinking and smoking dope |
| 02:20.49 | simonrvn | oh, i see |
| 02:21.14 | dvs | I drink but that's about it |
| 02:21.32 | hesco_ | dvs: how do mean udev? |
| 02:22.02 | dvs | !udev |
| 02:22.02 | dpkg | hmm... udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 02:22.39 | stoned | !paste |
| 02:22.39 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 02:22.56 | tengulre | anybody come from japan? |
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| 02:23.43 | simonrvn | cat: do you get my message about adding | grep EE? |
| 02:24.36 | amphi | bluefox83: yes, apart from the mask |
| 02:24.44 | Readon | hello, I want my program runing without login, but when i add the command in rc files, it does not run. why? |
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| 02:27.10 | hesco_ | dvs, dpkg: I'm running 2.6.16-20 from kernel.org just a couple of days ago. Does that mean I am definately using udev instead of devfs? |
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| 02:28.21 | hesco_ | I've already sent this machine home with the client, so he either has to drive it back in to town or I have to talk him through this. He's already waiting a week for delivery of a hardware modem. I hope I can get his printer going though without too many more trips in. |
| 02:28.42 | dvs | hesco_: Sorry. the udev package has to be installed to use udev |
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| 02:29.40 | hesco_ | dvst: and I assume that the old devfs is no longer there at all? |
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| 02:32.30 | bluefox83 | amphi, can i keep my default gateway? |
| 02:34.11 | TheBeast | Hi |
| 02:34.31 | TheBeast | Debian sucks. |
| 02:34.58 | _rockstar | ... |
| 02:35.21 | stew | TheBeast: do you have a debian related question? or are you just here to troll? |
| 02:35.36 | _rockstar | Now I like a fun troll every once in a while FOR FUN, but nothing that's real |
| 02:35.52 | TheBeast | stew I currently adminster a few debian boxes and I'm not happy with 'em :( |
| 02:35.58 | TheBeast | but no, no questions yet |
| 02:36.08 | amphi | bluefox83: if you like ;) |
| 02:36.24 | TheBeast | and I'm not here to troll. |
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| 02:36.27 | epsilon | TheBeast: Then go install Windows Server on them |
| 02:36.34 | debian | TheBeast: and you've no question. that doesn't seem bad at all |
| 02:36.36 | bluefox83 | amphi, do i need to have a name set for my dns? |
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| 02:36.47 | TheBeast | epsilon I feel like installing some BSD OS on 'em |
| 02:36.55 | abrotman | so do it .. if you can figure it out |
| 02:37.25 | bluefox83 | i'm a little confused as to whether i add a line like - name Ethernet LAN Card - to my interfaces file |
| 02:37.47 | epsilon | ahh Creative sux |
| 02:37.48 | bluefox83 | and whether i need to set something for dns in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:38.00 | amphi | bluefox83: I have no idea what you are trying to do |
| 02:38.14 | bluefox83 | amphi, just set up a run of the mill static ip |
| 02:38.16 | Derek1 | I hate when people say something sucks because they are too stupid to learn. |
| 02:38.33 | debian | TheBeast: yeah, go BSD go |
| 02:38.40 | debian | TheBeast: you may now leave. ;) |
| 02:38.50 | epsilon | trying to install 5.1 box system. 1st try: I have sound only on 2 front speakers. 2nd try after driver reinstall: all speaker have sound except 2 front |
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| 02:39.01 | TheBeast | debian don't be such a bad boy |
| 02:39.32 | magyar | how can i delete a message using mutt? |
| 02:39.39 | nse | TheBeast: what is your objective? i am going to kill you |
| 02:40.02 | abrotman | magyar: /join #mutt |
| 02:40.37 | TheBeast | nse I'm sad because my two year old debian server died horribly today |
| 02:40.45 | TheBeast | and I want to troubleshoot that |
| 02:41.00 | amphi | bluefox83: the two things you mention are orthogonal |
| 02:41.08 | abrotman | TheBeast: what did you install/change? |
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| 02:41.27 | TheBeast | abrotman the server was not touched in the past 3 months |
| 02:41.35 | bluefox83 | amphi, whah!?! |
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| 02:41.46 | abrotman | TheBeast: and it was externally facing? |
| 02:42.38 | TheBeast | abrotman yes, but i can guarantee that it hasn't been compromised |
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| 02:42.56 | abrotman | TheBeast: really .. so you haven't patched it in two months .. and you can *guarantee* it wasn't compromised? |
| 02:43.03 | TheBeast | it was running only mysql. clients used to login remotely (from our LAN) and fetch data |
| 02:43.27 | abrotman | so you have a machine with a public IP that is only accessed by LAN clients? |
| 02:43.30 | TheBeast | abrotman I forgot to mention that it wasn't connected to the net. all updates were made by hand |
| 02:43.36 | TheBeast | by me, of course :) |
| 02:44.11 | bluefox83 | amphi, the two things i said intersect each other at right angles? O.o |
| 02:44.17 | abrotman | i just asked you if it was externalyl facing |
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| 02:44.27 | amphi | bluefox83: ffs, if that machine is goung to need dns, put a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf, otherwise don't |
| 02:44.27 | abrotman | was that a confusing question? |
| 02:44.40 | TheBeast | no, not really :) |
| 02:44.48 | abrotman | so why did you answer yes? |
| 02:44.49 | bluefox83 | amphi, how do i know if it needs dns? i have a router >.> |
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| 02:45.10 | abrotman | TheBeast: so how did it die? |
| 02:45.27 | TheBeast | abrotman I have no idea. checked the logs, everything seemed fine |
| 02:45.27 | bluefox83 | amphi, nevermind, it has nameservers and IP's already |
| 02:45.37 | TheBeast | that's what I'm trying to find out |
| 02:45.40 | abrotman | but it's dead? |
| 02:45.45 | amphi | bluefox83: what a relief ;) |
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| 02:46.16 | TheBeast | yes, it is. it still runs tho. I ran fsck on the root partition and everything seemed allright |
| 02:46.22 | TheBeast | I'll be back in a few minutes. |
| 02:46.37 | abrotman | oh . it runs fine .. but it's dead? .. now it makes sense |
| 02:46.45 | itchi | magyar: use the ? help key?? |
| 02:47.13 | TheBeast | abrotman it crashed, I came at work this morning and I saw the grub menu (password protected) |
| 02:47.26 | TheBeast | I can guarantee that NOBODY touched that machine. |
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| 02:47.29 | abrotman | so it crashed? |
| 02:47.31 | abrotman | that's it? |
| 02:47.35 | abrotman | it runs fine now? |
| 02:47.43 | abrotman | what time did it crash? |
| 02:47.47 | TheBeast | well, yes, it runs |
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| 02:47.55 | TheBeast | seems at around 3:35 AM |
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| 02:48.14 | abrotman | cron jobs running? |
| 02:48.41 | abrotman | maybe your hardware is failing? |
| 02:48.42 | TheBeast | just the makewhatis and updatedb stuff |
| 02:48.50 | TheBeast | hardware is fine from what it seems |
| 02:49.15 | TheBeast | abchirk what intrigues me is that the logfiles are clean. really. |
| 02:49.17 | itchi | TheBeast: memory or swap failing? |
| 02:49.35 | TheBeast | itchi 2 gigs of ram, another one gig of swap |
| 02:49.42 | TheBeast | it was just mysql. that's it :) |
| 02:49.52 | abrotman | TheBeast: maybe the battery ran out ? |
| 02:50.00 | codergeek42_ | TheBeast: Did you run MemTest86 to make sure? :| |
| 02:50.28 | TheBeast | abrotman you mean the bios thingie? I don't think so :-) |
| 02:50.29 | abrotman | TheBeast: i once thought a box was flaky .. i ran cpuburn on it .. it confirmed the box was flaky .. and it never booted agian ... you could try that :) |
| 02:50.37 | abrotman | TheBeast: i meant the UPS |
| 02:51.01 | TheBeast | abrotman sincerly, I suspect a power fluctuation if you understand what I mean :| |
| 02:51.08 | TheBeast | it just can't be something else |
| 02:51.18 | abrotman | TheBeast: but you have no UPS on the box? |
| 02:51.29 | TheBeast | no UPS unfortunately |
| 02:52.04 | abrotman | ok . so .. maybe the power went out? |
| 02:52.12 | abrotman | i heard that happens sometimes |
| 02:52.31 | abrotman | and well .. that usually means no logs .. and if noone has touched it in hours .. it would be all synced up |
| 02:52.34 | itchi | abrotman: I guess you got an now box |
| 02:52.45 | TheBeast | abrotman it doesn't seem so. told you I suspect a fluctuation. other boxes well allright, thing is they're all equipped with UPSs |
| 02:52.50 | abrotman | itchi: i got twenty-seve |
| 02:52.51 | abrotman | n |
| 02:53.13 | abrotman | TheBeast: if your UPS are configured correctly .. they'll log power sags etc |
| 02:53.14 | TheBeast | I'll be back in 5 minutes. |
| 02:53.20 | itchi | abrotman: After ran cpuburn |
| 02:53.28 | abrotman | oh .. a new box |
| 02:53.44 | abrotman | itchi: eh .. i think so .. it was at work .. it was a server i didn't like anyways |
| 02:53.50 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, after killing that other ;-0 |
| 02:54.21 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, it need to work _correctly_ no /defaults/ please |
| 02:54.39 | abrotman | uh ok |
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| 02:59.10 | cat | anyone here has a prism54 card that has it in debian? |
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| 03:00.21 | abrotman | !prism54 |
| 03:00.21 | dpkg | somebody said prism54 was http://prism54.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1043, or check #prism54 on freenode |
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| 03:02.15 | nosklo | abrotman, dead link :/ |
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| 03:03.14 | abrotman | eh .. |
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| 03:03.33 | cafuego | canadian! |
| 03:04.07 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:04.17 | TheBeast | abrotman I'll keep finding out the problem |
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| 03:04.27 | abrotman | !prism54 =~ s#http://prism54.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1043,#http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=1043# |
| 03:04.27 | dpkg | abrotman: OK |
| 03:04.30 | abrotman | nosklo: better? |
| 03:06.05 | itchi | abrotman: I'm bad in english, i'm with cat in private converstation :-/ |
| 03:06.11 | abrotman | ok |
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| 03:07.08 | mrkris | anyone here happen to know of any techorati clone that is opensource ? |
| 03:07.51 | cat | i just cannot get this card working |
| 03:07.57 | _rockstar | Is booting with 'noapic' a good idea? It seems to be helping some of my amd64 bugs |
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| 03:08.35 | abrotman | cat: seems like the driver is there already |
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| 03:08.42 | cat | yeah it is, |
| 03:08.49 | cat | but i just dont know how to get it up to work |
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| 03:09.18 | abrotman | cat: pr0n .. lots of pr0n |
| 03:09.24 | cat | huh |
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| 03:09.35 | abrotman | cat: if you ifconfig -a .. is it there? |
| 03:09.45 | cat | yeah is under eth1 |
| 03:10.06 | abrotman | so what's the problem? |
| 03:10.10 | abrotman | is it dhcp or static? |
| 03:10.15 | cat | dhcp |
| 03:10.31 | abrotman | ok .. so what's the problem? |
| 03:10.41 | cat | i cannot connect with it, |
| 03:10.44 | cat | that's why im asking |
| 03:10.44 | itchi | cat: You first need to read the manual of you 'ap', define the password of it. Evetueall make you ap so open as you're want. The time you get everything working |
| 03:10.49 | abrotman | cat: errors ? |
| 03:11.20 | cat | abrotman, can you join #flood? |
| 03:11.27 | abrotman | i'm already there |
| 03:11.36 | cat | i've pasted it |
| 03:11.38 | cat | what ifconfig -a said |
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| 03:11.45 | itchi | Normally he have no ip now eth1 |
| 03:12.25 | cat | i wonder why |
| 03:12.36 | abrotman | where's the rest? |
| 03:12.43 | nosklo | abrotman, great |
| 03:12.46 | nosklo | abrotman, thanx |
| 03:12.49 | itchi | cat: Because you need to give one :-/ or get on of an access point |
| 03:12.50 | abrotman | yay |
| 03:14.46 | Bitz | hi, is a kernel-image-2.4.27 or it is only avialiable in source? |
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| 03:14.53 | subzone | anyone having problem in using syntax highlighting on vim 6.4? |
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| 03:15.17 | Bitz | is there a kern.. |
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| 03:15.47 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 03:16.17 | abrotman | Bitz: huh ? |
| 03:16.36 | eps | mmm smart hosts |
| 03:16.57 | eps | or more accurately...spammers and antispam companies and exchange |
| 03:17.34 | Rug | If I want a screen label to show-up in the title bar of xterm do I kludge xterm config or screen config? |
| 03:17.37 | phaedrus44 | hello...when i mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 console tells me i need to name a file system...how would i do that? |
| 03:17.38 | _rockstar | Which is the proper kernel parameter? 'noapic' or 'noapic no|apic' ?? O |
| 03:17.54 | _rockstar | I've read about it being both ways... |
| 03:17.55 | eps | phaedrus44, -t fileystemtype (eg vfat) |
| 03:18.15 | eps | _rockstar, and I've had it work both ways |
| 03:18.43 | _rockstar | eps, how would I check to see if the parameter worked then? Is there a service that should be running if the parameter didn't work? |
| 03:19.58 | Bitz | i got it |
| 03:19.59 | eps | _rockstar, erm...try and run an apic command |
| 03:20.14 | eps | Bitz, of course there is an image silyl :P |
| 03:20.49 | eps | _rockstar, erm in dmesg when you boot there should be a bunch of stuff on apic and it starting/being assigned/what ever... |
| 03:21.05 | eps | personally I only ever turn it off to fix some thing thats broken and it either works or it doesnt :| |
| 03:21.23 | _rockstar | eps, got it, thanks. |
| 03:21.32 | _rockstar | eps, it's definitely working. |
| 03:21.52 | eps | :) |
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| 03:24.01 | eps | those evil users, theys tries to takes it from us, the bandwidth, but we don't let them, sssssss, no, never! |
| 03:24.08 | subzone | no one here use vim? i upgraded from vim 6.3 to 6.4 now syntax hightlight doesn't work. tried :set syntax on and :syntax on |
| 03:24.29 | eps | subzone, I use vim constantly...but never with syntax hightlighing |
| 03:24.57 | subzone | esp: what vim version? |
| 03:25.07 | eps | current sid |
| 03:25.10 | luddite | hey all, i know this isn't a debian question(pls this is an innocent question), how do i lockdown my irc name--- |
| 03:25.23 | eps | lock down? |
| 03:25.24 | luddite | so no one else can use it |
| 03:25.36 | eps | /msg nickserv help register |
| 03:25.37 | eps | iirc |
| 03:25.46 | luddite | thankyou |
| 03:25.56 | subzone | eps, vim --version? i've googled around and it seems to be a bug. |
| 03:26.07 | eps | I just squatt on my nick...other people register it while I'm offline so I just keep using it |
| 03:26.22 | luddite | i guess, i just like mine |
| 03:26.35 | eps | yeah I thought it was good |
| 03:26.57 | eps | subzone, my main linux box died yesterday... atm I'm on a ubuntu server at work :P |
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| 03:27.55 | eps | I'm down to one computer now...damn being poor. first my general purpose file server died killing lots of nfs setup and random other things that were really handy inc svn...now my main box died so I'm stuck using a mac laptop that has no games :( |
| 03:28.01 | eps | two less debian computers in the world |
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| 03:28.36 | luddite | DAMN |
| 03:28.41 | eps | oh well...at least it is giving me a chance to go outside my computer room and socialise with females.... |
| 03:28.42 | luddite | sorry caps |
| 03:28.43 | eps | which is a pluss |
| 03:28.44 | eps | -s |
| 03:29.04 | luddite | you don't have a fembot? |
| 03:29.04 | jjazz_ | eps, define 'died' |
| 03:29.11 | luddite | sorry |
| 03:29.13 | eps | luddite, naa to poor :( |
| 03:29.42 | eps | jjazz, root hdd is failing and I don't want to spin it up until I can afford a new hdd to dd all the data onto |
| 03:30.02 | eps | or the mobo is dead |
| 03:30.07 | eps | kind of hard to tell tbh |
| 03:30.08 | jjazz | ah. So not 'died' so much as 'receding into the light' |
| 03:30.16 | eps | jjazz, yeah :P |
| 03:30.51 | eps | I really need to just let it die though...the poor thing has been upgraded so much over the last...five years now |
| 03:31.01 | eps | get me a new amd64 boxen :) |
| 03:31.06 | eps | 1TB of hdd |
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| 03:31.29 | eps | SMALLER CASE... note to self...never ever ever ever buy a aopen h700 again |
| 03:31.34 | eps | they just don't 'do' lans |
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| 03:33.13 | nekostar | desktopbsd failed... pcbsd failed... now lets see if i fail gentoo ~_~ bbiab |
| 03:34.41 | _rockstar | eps, how does it not do lan? |
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| 03:36.37 | bluefox83 | how do i turn my mic on in alsamixer? |
| 03:36.46 | bluefox83 | it shows the mic as being turned off |
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| 03:40.32 | Drizzt321 | if I wanted to add an application to the menu that didn't get added, where would I set that? |
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| 03:43.41 | mick_linux | how can i (using links-ssl)- submit a form? |
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| 03:43.54 | mick_linux | i tried tabs + enter... doesn't work :-/ |
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| 03:47.43 | crissi | i found the reason why x wont startup. its a bug in xorg debian package. |
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| 03:48.09 | stew | crissi: did you find the bug in the bts? |
| 03:48.15 | Drizzt321 | crissi: was that after upgrading? |
| 03:48.18 | dn4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:48.30 | MacJunky_PDQ | hi |
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| 03:48.42 | crissi | Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/etc/dbus-1/${prefix}/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory |
| 03:48.46 | crissi | EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon |
| 03:48.50 | crissi | Drizzt321: yes |
| 03:48.50 | Drizzt321 | huh |
| 03:48.53 | itchi | bluefox83: Mean you it |
| 03:49.00 | itchi | bluefox83: Mean you it's mutted ? sorry |
| 03:49.08 | Drizzt321 | crissi: I didn't get that error, I had a problem with the nvidia binary driver, basically it was installed into the wrong place |
| 03:49.15 | itchi | bluefox83: press the 'm' key |
| 03:49.25 | stew | crissi: what version of debian are you running? |
| 03:49.29 | crissi | i have create a symlink to /usr/share/dbus-1/serices annd now its works |
| 03:49.39 | crissi | stew: unstables |
| 03:50.00 | crissi | yes i had nvidia driver before |
| 03:50.06 | crissi | but i cant use it anymore |
| 03:50.15 | stew | crissi: dbus-1 is only in stable you should have swiched to dbus |
| 03:50.30 | crissi | x start up with nvidia driver and and it stays with white screen |
| 03:50.36 | crissi | but its shutting down |
| 03:50.44 | crissi | i can type blind in console |
| 03:51.05 | crissi | stew: have you seen the error? |
| 03:51.28 | crissi | it was in .xsession-errors and is definitly a bug |
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| 03:51.41 | crissi | the path is wrong |
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| 03:51.55 | stew | crissi: you are running a mixed stable / unstable install which isn't supported |
| 03:52.02 | crissi | no |
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| 03:52.08 | stew | crissi: can you put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libc6 x11-common dbus-1" into a pastebin |
| 03:52.39 | crissi | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 03:52.40 | crissi | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 03:52.51 | crissi | thats the only one in my sources.list |
| 03:53.01 | crissi | yes.. wait a sec |
| 03:53.08 | bluefox83 | does anyone know how to get a mic and headphones running in skype? |
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| 03:55.01 | crissi | http://pastebin.com/722602 |
| 03:55.24 | mick_linux | anyone know a text based browser w/ js support :) |
| 03:55.29 | crissi | also a problem with nv driver:the font size is VERY small |
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| 03:55.42 | crissi | i must set to 14 to able to read the font |
| 03:56.01 | crissi | mick_linux: w3m ?! |
| 03:56.09 | crissi | or links |
| 03:56.10 | mick_linux | ty |
| 03:56.14 | mick_linux | links-ssl sucks |
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| 03:56.46 | mick_linux | i can't submit anything (ESC + Links + (move a few down) + enter) doesn't work for me |
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| 03:57.16 | mick_linux | crissi, links doesn't do js |
| 03:57.27 | crissi | and w3m? |
| 03:57.34 | b0nn | hi all, Ive just tried updating my sarge box, and I get a 4040 for one of the sources.. http://://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US in fact |
| 03:57.42 | b0nn | er that should be 404 |
| 03:57.52 | b0nn | where do I get the new address? |
| 03:58.10 | crissi | stew: have you any idea whats wrong with nv driver? nvidia driver font size is normal |
| 03:59.39 | crissi | but currenly the nvidia driver wont work... if i install it i got a white screen and the xserver shuts down.. white screen is then still there... only blind login or ssh is possible |
| 03:59.59 | crissi | please have a look to the errors of xorg |
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| 04:00.18 | crissi | i think the first one with the wrong path is most important |
| 04:00.29 | crissi | then the nvidia driver problem |
| 04:00.46 | crissi | now, i have go sleeping |
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| 04:00.58 | crissi | happy fixing ;) |
| 04:03.41 | mick_linux | oh crap, w3m doesn't do js either |
| 04:04.05 | stew | mick_linux: links2 does |
| 04:04.22 | mick_linux | do i need something like links2-ssl for ssl support? |
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| 04:05.08 | stew | mick_linux: i don't know |
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| 04:06.21 | mick_linux | ty |
| 04:07.11 | eps | grr some bastard has taken my workstation desk over |
| 04:07.55 | eps | mick_linux, yes you do, links2 has nearly no ssl abilities without it |
| 04:08.08 | eps | bbl lunch after I kill who ever took over my desk |
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| 04:12.21 | bluefox83 | can i get some help setting up a regular headset/mic with a sound blaster live card please? |
| 04:13.03 | bluefox83 | using alsa |
| 04:13.03 | dabreegster | bluefox83: Just plug it in the appropriate output jack and adjust the volume |
| 04:13.15 | dabreegster | bluefox83: Oh, mic. Nevermind, sorry. |
| 04:13.21 | dabreegster | Read headphones for some reason |
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| 04:14.40 | nerdzyboy | How can I add a network connexion? (I added a network card to my pc but I can't get online...) lspci lists the device correctly and if config gives me this: www.kekling.co.nr/ifconfig.txt |
| 04:14.50 | nerdzyboy | *ifconfig |
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| 04:18.46 | nerdzyboy | anyone? |
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| 04:21.36 | dabreegster | nerdzyboy: I have little experience with network interfaces (I use wvdial for PPP), but try ifup |
| 04:21.55 | nerdzyboy | ifupÉ |
| 04:22.02 | nerdzyboy | *ifup? |
| 04:22.10 | dabreegster | Yes. |
| 04:22.58 | nerdzyboy | how do I use it? |
| 04:23.24 | dabreegster | Read the manual page for it. man ifup |
| 04:23.50 | nerdzyboy | k |
| 04:23.56 | nerdzyboy | thanks |
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| 04:27.14 | cat | anyone here has a prism54 networking wireless card that has it working under debian? |
| 04:27.16 | cat | please help |
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| 04:29.14 | Nodey | Have any of you tried video-conferencing on debian? |
| 04:29.40 | Nodey | I would like to video conference with two of my friends running WinXP; I'm looking to buy a web cam |
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| 04:41.53 | Nodey | Is Ekega good? |
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| 04:45.09 | luddite | any chance that the support for the nvidia one-liner in etch has been improved? about 2 months ago it was brok |
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| 04:55.29 | DaBlade | Damnit. I just tried running 2.6.17.1 which I compiled manually, the damn thing wouldn't boot. Are there any logs I can use to see what went wrong with the new kernel? |
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| 04:59.30 | rxed | How can I find diff between 2.6.16.14 and 2.6.17? |
| 05:00.36 | dabreegster | The changelog is in /usr/share/doc/linux-image-foo or online somewhere |
| 05:01.09 | DaBlade | Hello? Can anyone give me a hand? |
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| 05:01.27 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Sure, just ask your question |
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| 05:01.35 | DaBlade | dabreegster: I already did... |
| 05:01.39 | DaBlade | Damnit. I just tried running 2.6.17.1 which I compiled manually, the damn thing wouldn't boot. Are there any logs I can use to see what went wrong with the new kernel? |
| 05:02.00 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Oh, sorry. /cleared. |
| 05:02.05 | DaBlade | Ok |
| 05:02.14 | dabreegster | DaBlade: What were the last few messages on the console when you booted? |
| 05:02.38 | dabreegster | DaBlade: I'd think /var/log/syslog would store some info too |
| 05:02.52 | DaBlade | something to the effect of "waiting for /dev/block/sda/something/s for 16 seconds" or whatever |
| 05:02.58 | DaBlade | I don't remember exactly what it said |
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| 05:03.26 | luddite | hey all how do i clean up a broken apt-get install |
| 05:03.48 | luddite | for some damn reason i accidentally asked for an install of a kernal already installed |
| 05:04.01 | maikol | if i change the host name in the /etc/hostname file, do i have to run anything after the change? |
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| 05:04.24 | DaBlade | dabreegster: This is for the kernel I'm running now |
| 05:04.27 | luddite | when apt prompted me to stop or continue i decided that stoping was a better idea as i didn't want to overwrite the libraries |
| 05:04.41 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Yeah, kind of thought so. Hmm. |
| 05:04.42 | luddite | or should i rename the libraries, install and delete the old libraries? |
| 05:04.49 | DaBlade | dabreegster: Any suggestions? |
| 05:05.03 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Maybe try /var/log/kern.log |
| 05:05.17 | DaBlade | woah |
| 05:05.23 | DaBlade | That was a *lot* of output |
| 05:05.25 | dabreegster | DaBlade: There's a boot, but it's "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" for me. dmesg would be for the current kernel too. Dunno, sorry. |
| 05:05.30 | dabreegster | DaBlade: That's what less is for. :) |
| 05:05.39 | DaBlade | yup lol |
| 05:05.47 | DaBlade | I made the mistake of using cat |
| 05:05.57 | luddite | .. |
| 05:06.20 | DaBlade | luddite: It's a program, it prints the text in a file... |
| 05:07.09 | luddite | uhm.. |
| 05:07.22 | cat | .. |
| 05:07.40 | luddite | /DaBlade this not a var/log issue... how do stop apt from trying to install a messed up command? |
| 05:07.47 | luddite | whoops |
| 05:08.09 | DaBlade | luddite: I thought you didn't understand what we were on about, that's all |
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| 05:09.22 | DaBlade | dabreegster: Looks like this file doesn't have anything from that kernel |
| 05:09.54 | dabreegster | DaBlade: I dunno where the log of other boots that aren't the current would be kept |
| 05:10.07 | DaBlade | dabreegster: The logging probably wasn't even started when the errors happened |
| 05:10.37 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Probably. Hmm, sda timed out. sda is a SSCI device, innit? |
| 05:11.17 | DaBlade | sda is a USB stick here, but what does it have to do with it? |
| 05:11.34 | DaBlade | And how do you know it timed out? :/ |
| 05:11.37 | Ashex | is there a simple way to disable the dhcp connect on startup? |
| 05:12.21 | Ashex | most of the time when I'm on my laptop it's not connected with ethernet. So I want to disable the dhcp resolve during startup, since that takes a good 30 seconds to timeout |
| 05:12.24 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Didn't you say that was the last error on the console? |
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| 05:12.41 | dabreegster | 00:04 < DaBlade> something to the effect of "waiting for /dev/block/sda/something/s for 16 seconds" or whatever |
| 05:12.50 | DaBlade | oops, typo |
| 05:12.51 | DaBlade | hda |
| 05:13.15 | dabreegster | DaBlade: Aaah. That's a USB drive? Is it working? |
| 05:13.18 | DaBlade | Either way, the block part puzzled me, I hadn't seen that before |
| 05:13.29 | DaBlade | dabreegster: No, it's my hard drive. |
| 05:13.34 | dabreegster | DaBlade: It's just a block device |
| 05:13.43 | DaBlade | dabreegster: sda is usually my USB disk, when it's plugged in |
| 05:13.58 | dabreegster | DaBlade: OK. |
| 05:14.06 | DaBlade | Bah, another scrapped kernel... |
| 05:14.13 | DaBlade | Why can I build working kernels? :( |
| 05:14.14 | DaBlade | lol |
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| 05:16.13 | maikol | reconfigure hostname? |
| 05:16.30 | Ashex | so, anyone have a suggestion? |
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| 05:16.51 | dabreegster | maikol: hostname newname? |
| 05:17.25 | maikol | dabreegster, doesnt work. changes the host name, but then other programs dont run. |
| 05:17.43 | dabreegster | maikol: How do they fail? |
| 05:17.47 | meng | hi, any ideas why x-window works in kernel-2.6.8-3 and not in kernel-2.4.27-3 |
| 05:17.48 | maikol | dabreegster, for example, dnsdomainname doesnt return its vaule, and the terminal doesnt run |
| 05:18.05 | dabreegster | maikol: No clue. Very strange. |
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| 05:18.12 | Ashex | So does anyone know how to background or remove the dhcp resolve process from startup? |
| 05:18.32 | icebit | hi all |
| 05:18.55 | dabreegster | Ashex: It's probably in /etc/init.d. You could modify the script or remove the link to it in the appropriate rc directory |
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| 05:19.18 | magyar | need help with mysql and maildrop for etch |
| 05:20.03 | itchi | oKtosiTe: Is there many peoples that come on #debian-nl these last weeks? |
| 05:20.11 | dabreegster | Ashex: Or, wait. A dhcp connect. Might be defined as a network interface. |
| 05:20.31 | dabreegster | Ashex: Check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:21.03 | Ashex | thanks, I'll check on that |
| 05:21.12 | itchi | oKtosiTe: Or i guess you're a bot :-/ |
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| 05:21.39 | maikol | dabreegster, i htink it will work if i restart x, giving it a try |
| 05:21.48 | meng | after i install a new kernel image i can't login as normal user in xdm, have any ideas could went wrong? |
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| 05:21.56 | dabreegster | maikol: Good luck |
| 05:22.42 | itchi | Yeah, oKtosiTe is an bot |
| 05:23.03 | meng | xdm keeps going back to the login window |
| 05:23.34 | meng | any suggestions? |
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| 05:24.38 | g333k | hi, I'm using "mercury messenger", its a jabber client for msn... and its made in java, now I realize that it is stealing me 292M of RAM... don you think it is too much? I see in my system monitor that "java" gets 292M of RM |
| 05:24.43 | g333k | RAM* |
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| 05:25.12 | dabreegster | g333k: That's quite a bit. There are other ways to connect to use msn. |
| 05:25.25 | maikol | dabreegster, yep, that worked |
| 05:25.47 | dabreegster | maikol: Cool. |
| 05:26.02 | g333k | dabreegster, yep I know... I used to use amsn |
| 05:26.13 | eps | I use amsn/gaim/xchat :0 |
| 05:26.14 | eps | Z:) |
| 05:26.33 | eps | g333k, java when loaded is rather large, don't worry about it |
| 05:26.42 | g333k | firefox and thunderbird are anothers RAM eaters..... 149M and 145M |
| 05:26.47 | dabreegster | g333k: One option you should consider if bitlbee. It's an IRC server that talks to a bunch of protocols like Yahoo, AIM, and I think MSN. |
| 05:27.03 | dabreegster | g333k: That's quite a bit, I don't even have that much RAM |
| 05:27.11 | eps | remember of course that linux displays memory usage differently to windows and that a huge amount in linux may be exatcly the same as the same program running with a small amount under windows |
| 05:27.31 | g333k | eps, well maybe |
| 05:27.57 | g333k | but when JAva is loaded I really feel its presence |
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| 05:28.04 | eps | also firefox uses that much no matter what the platform... 'it's a not a bug, it's a feature!' (tm) |
| 05:28.15 | eps | g333k, what cpu and ram do you have? |
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| 05:29.00 | g333k | eps, that the good part of the story... I have P4 3Ghz, and 1G of RAM.... other case I would be crying |
| 05:29.29 | g333k | I'm considering expanding to 2G of RAM |
| 05:29.38 | magyar | anyone using maildrop with mysql? |
| 05:29.45 | pab | OT: To all developers out there, the more I learn the more I am humbled......Thank you (just a simple user) |
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| 05:36.45 | icebit | How to renew work with repositories? |
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| 05:39.42 | eps | g333k, with those specs you shouldn't even notice java...since you can there is probably an issue there |
| 05:40.05 | magyar | is there a way to tell if maildrop is compiled with maildropmysql support? |
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| 05:40.18 | g333k | eps, maybe theres a situation here.... the only problem I have is JAva |
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| 05:42.05 | g333k | Will be a difference if I use a deb "libfasttrack" file made for ubuntu in etch? |
| 05:46.08 | eps | probably not |
| 05:46.20 | eps | most of ubuntus packages are just debian sid ones |
| 05:46.35 | eps | what version of java are you using? |
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| 05:49.41 | MariusX | hello ppl. I am trying to setup My ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics card in debian. I downloaded the ATI driver pack and installed it. once I ran aticonfig --initial I restarted and it booted up till the GDM tried to load and then it went to a black screen. I was able to cp my old xorg config file to revert back. the problematic config is http://pastebin.com/722711 can some one tell me why it didn't start gnome? |
| 05:53.48 | eps | pastebin hates life |
| 05:54.40 | eps | MariusX, right off the bat I suggest it may be some of the drivers x is loading that are killing it |
| 05:55.33 | eps | though what would be millions of times bettre would be a tail of your Xorg log |
| 05:55.38 | eps | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 05:55.39 | eps | |tail |
| 05:55.46 | eps | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail |
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| 05:56.29 | eps | note you probably need to do that to the .old one as the current .log for for the current time you loaded x |
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| 05:57.43 | py__ | hello |
| 05:58.16 | matthewmystar | hello can anyone tell me why when I hit backspace in VI it flashes and goes to the vi command line? |
| 05:58.29 | Elly | you are in command mode perhaps? |
| 05:58.33 | matthewmystar | no |
| 05:59.07 | formorer | you are in vi mode |
| 05:59.13 | formorer | maybe you wan't start vim |
| 05:59.19 | formorer | eh want :) |
| 06:00.07 | matthewmystar | aha thank you formorer |
| 06:00.15 | eps | heh I hated that with the vim update lately... I used to type vi and it'd just give me vim...now I have to type vim to get it cause vi goes to vi :( |
| 06:00.22 | eps | should change the symlink |
| 06:00.42 | MariusX | eps: here is the tail of the .old log http://pastebin.com/722716 |
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| 06:01.55 | dabreegster | eps: Hmm, it seems to point to vim. /etc/alternatives/vi = /usr/bin/vim = /etc/alternatives/vim = /usr/bin/vim.basic |
| 06:01.58 | matthewmystar | well I just ran apt-get install vi and now when i type vi it gives me vi...should have done that in the first place |
| 06:02.28 | MariusX | I am not sure if that is the correct log though as I may have booted a second time with the correct config? I may have to try the broken config once first. |
| 06:02.38 | dabreegster | Curse, 7.0 still isn't in testing |
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| 06:04.18 | eps | MariusX, wasn't enough to see what I wanted...though having read the ati manual it seems that ati installs completely differently to nvidia and they don't give you any technical information so I'm unable to help you any further...accept maybe to comment along the lines of ati sucks? ;P] |
| 06:04.56 | MariusX | oh well. thanks anyway. |
| 06:05.25 | MariusX | or would the whole log help? |
| 06:06.34 | eps | not really |
| 06:06.37 | eps | though... |
| 06:07.02 | eps | put a # infront of Load "dri" in your xorg.conf |
| 06:07.04 | eps | and try again |
| 06:07.29 | eps | dri crashes ati drivers according to happypenguin |
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| 06:07.51 | MariusX | ok. I will give that a try |
| 06:07.55 | eps | under nvidia they give you a list of ones to disable...makes it easy, none of this hide it from the user gui rubbish :P |
| 06:07.58 | dabreegster | The Rage 128 driver is currently broken |
| 06:08.04 | dabreegster | Maybe others are as well |
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| 06:08.33 | alexandre | Hi, in ksirc, how can I set up a loginname/password per server ? |
| 06:08.55 | maikol | my audio just stopped working |
| 06:09.09 | streuner | maikol: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 06:09.15 | eps | maikol, define 'stopped working' and what were you doing at the time |
| 06:09.17 | cat | here |
| 06:09.23 | cat | that's what it says |
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| 06:09.40 | maikol | streuner, Linux version 2.6.15-1-686 (Debian 2.6.15-8) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9)) #2 Mon Mar 6 15:27:08 UTC 2006 |
| 06:09.44 | exobyte | anyone know how to hang up a modem after doing ath1? |
| 06:10.00 | streuner | maikol: and what do you use ALSA or OSS? |
| 06:10.01 | eps | exobyte, pull the cable out :P |
| 06:10.04 | maikol | eps, only thing i changed recently was to change the host name |
| 06:10.09 | cat | that scks when you cannot get a freaking device to work |
| 06:10.11 | cat | with linux |
| 06:10.21 | maikol | streuner, mplayer uses oss, so i guess thats what i use |
| 06:10.23 | exobyte | eps: no relays to wire up to my gpio |
| 06:10.39 | eps | http://www.computerhope.com/atcom.htm#02 |
| 06:10.54 | dabreegster | maikol: Maybe you accidentally hit 9 until the volume was all the way down? OSS eh? Try aumix |
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| 06:11.07 | exobyte | eps: ath0 doesn't work |
| 06:11.10 | eps | bbs, meeting |
| 06:11.43 | maikol | dabreegster, no, its not all the way down. it says i dont have the proper library or something. gdstreamer or something like that |
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| 06:12.32 | dabreegster | maikol: gstreamer probably. Didn't know mplayer used that. |
| 06:13.05 | maikol | dabreegster, mplayer doesnt use it. the little speaker thing in gnome is what said it |
| 06:13.38 | dragonfly | looks like the newest version of KDE on Debian servers is 3.3.2 but the newest release of KDE is 3.5.3...what are the hazards of upgrading from a non-debian server? |
| 06:13.44 | streuner | maikol: start xmms in a shell and tell us what you get |
| 06:14.01 | dabreegster | maikol: Must be a gnome thing. Try sound separately. Might have to kill esd. Pretty sure gnome uses that, or used to. It causes problems, apparently |
| 06:15.18 | eps | back |
| 06:15.44 | maikol | streuner, oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Permission denied |
| 06:16.16 | streuner | maikol: as normal 'user' and what happens as 'root'? |
| 06:16.33 | maikol | streuner, works fine |
| 06:16.39 | dabreegster | maikol: add your user to the audio group |
| 06:16.41 | eps | bah shift him onto alsa and all will work fine |
| 06:16.41 | maikol | adduser ,user. audio |
| 06:16.42 | maikol | ? |
| 06:16.46 | eps | lol |
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| 06:17.07 | dabreegster | yeah maikol |
| 06:17.23 | matthewmystar | does anyone here run on a ppc? |
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| 06:17.58 | maikol | what is the audio group. |
| 06:18.04 | Wyzard | Has anyone else here been seeing X (in unstable) randomly crash lately? |
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| 06:18.40 | aum | hi - i installed the debian dspam and dspam-doc packages, but they don't have any doco about how to get dspam set up on my box - what's the best/quickest way to get it up on debian with exim4? |
| 06:18.42 | Wyzard | as in, click on something and suddenly everything quits and you're back to the login screen |
| 06:18.54 | dragonfly | anyone using kde newer than 3.3.2 on Debian? |
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| 06:20.28 | maikol | how do i figure out what my audio group is. |
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| 06:20.54 | dabreegster | maikol: just 'adduser yournormaluser audio' |
| 06:21.06 | dabreegster | maikol: Just for file permissions to write to /dev/dsp |
| 06:21.25 | maikol | dabreegster, that didnt work. i mean, the command worked, but sound still stayed the same. restart x? |
| 06:22.00 | dabreegster | maikol: Maybe |
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| 06:22.11 | dabreegster | maikol: Can you play sound as a normal user without gnome? |
| 06:22.33 | maikol | dunno |
| 06:22.52 | dabreegster | Try with mpg321 or something. |
| 06:23.29 | maikol | going console. |
| 06:24.01 | streuner | dabreegster: <streuner> maikol: start xmms in a shell and tell us what you get |
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| 06:24.53 | streuner | dabreegster: <maikol> streuner, works fine |
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| 06:25.16 | dabreegster | streuner: Oh. Well, guess he needs to restart gnome |
| 06:25.16 | maikol | well, no need to try console. restarted x and all is well. gonna try mpg321 anyway though |
| 06:25.18 | streuner | dabreegster: as 'root', so why did you tell him to run in console mpg321? |
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| 06:25.37 | dabreegster | streuner: Er no, I intended as a normal user after he was in the audio group |
| 06:26.29 | maikol | dabreegster streuner, thanks for the help |
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| 06:27.52 | streuner | maikol: so your sound works even as 'normal' user? |
| 06:28.06 | maikol | streuner, yes |
| 06:28.20 | streuner | !congratulate maikol |
| 06:28.22 | dpkg | Yay maikol, you did it! |
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| 06:29.10 | maikol | streuner, thanks, but you pretty much walked me through it |
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| 06:30.51 | dragonfly | when i get something to work once i'm happy with it, when i make it work twice i'm comfortable with it ;) |
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| 06:31.18 | dragonfly | and i don't mean shut it off and turn it back on in the morning...but like set it the same from a fresh install again |
| 06:31.19 | dragonfly | :P |
| 06:32.12 | streuner | dabreegster: Didn't he say, his sound worked before (adduser user audio)? |
| 06:32.28 | dabreegster | streuner: Think so, wasn't paying attention. Sorry. |
| 06:32.48 | streuner | dabreegster: heh, me either :-) |
| 06:32.50 | maikol | dragonfly, this is my 5 install for basically that same reason |
| 06:33.37 | streuner | dabreegster: i surely misread something then, sorry. |
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| 06:33.49 | unix_infidel | is it possible to change the icons in thunar? |
| 06:33.49 | dabreegster | streuner: I think it was me actually |
| 06:34.14 | lightcap | I just ran apt-get upgrade and mysqld will no longer start...syslog output here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Using_stack_trace.html |
| 06:35.03 | lightcap | oops wrong url ;-) |
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| 06:35.21 | lightcap | how about this one instead http://rafb.net/paste/results/yE1SWf19.html |
| 06:39.13 | unix_infidel | anyone for my thunar and icon question/ |
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| 06:39.46 | unix_infidel | or is it thunar independent. |
| 06:39.59 | unix_infidel | more based on gtk icons and such, how would i go about getting better icon sets for gnome or gtk? |
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| 06:43.26 | lightcap | maybe better yet, how do I go back to the previous version (the one I was using that worked, before running apt-get upgrade)? |
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| 06:57.23 | alexbodn | hello, i'm installing etch with rootstrap, but aptitude fails with SIGSEGV. older rootstrap installations, mainly of sarge upgraded to etch don't manifest this problem. apt-get works ok. |
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| 06:57.53 | unix_infidel | how can i specify an icon set to use/ |
| 06:58.03 | unix_infidel | i've discovered one i like called tango. |
| 06:58.20 | unix_infidel | but i dont know where to define it other than using gnome-theme-manager which loads up a crapload of daemons/ |
| 06:58.22 | dragonfly | unix_infidel, are you using gnome or kde |
| 06:58.28 | unix_infidel | dragonfly: flux. |
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| 06:58.34 | unix_infidel | i'm using gtk/gtk2 apps. |
| 06:58.36 | dragonfly | never used that |
| 06:59.08 | unix_infidel | which is why i'm asking i'm not in gnome/kde and i need to specify gtk apps to use a specific icon st that is usually handled by gnome-theme-manager |
| 06:59.16 | unix_infidel | ANYONE with any ideas? |
| 07:00.14 | kyncani | unix_infidel: use gnome-theme-manager and let the daemons die | kill them later ? |
| 07:00.37 | unix_infidel | kyncani: well that's the problem, gtk has to use some configuration file to determine which icon sets to load. |
| 07:00.44 | unix_infidel | why waste cycles?? |
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| 07:01.34 | unix_infidel | i did a quick google and i'm not getting anything. |
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| 07:03.16 | kyncani | well, maybe you could strace gnome-theme-manager and see if it's writing directly some conf files |
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| 07:04.11 | unix_infidel | brb |
| 07:04.22 | dragonfly | not sure what the icon set looks liek but is it one file with all the icons in it? |
| 07:05.24 | dragonfly | ....maybe rename the one currently in use something like original-icons.<whatever> and then ln -s <current filename> <which ever one you want to use> |
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| 07:13.02 | g333k | Hi does somebody could connect to OpenFT net ? I'm using apollon, (giFT) |
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| 07:20.15 | roel- | what to do when a apt-get upgrade fails on a particular package? ('invoke-rc.d: initscript and, action "start" failed.') |
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| 07:25.55 | alexbodn | try maybe stop the service first |
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| 07:26.43 | alexbodn | roel, i mean the service of that package |
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| 07:34.00 | roel- | thanks alexbodn, that helped |
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| 07:39.15 | stuart_ | has anyone used OO Math? |
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| 07:40.12 | stuart_ | is anyone even reading this |
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| 07:40.35 | Vasistha | kind of |
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| 07:40.58 | stuart_ | hee hee |
| 07:41.07 | stuart_ | dont spose uve used OO Math? |
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| 07:43.04 | Vasistha | stuart_: nope... never tried it. I could try it now :-) |
| 07:43.16 | stuart_ | hee hee |
| 07:43.22 | Vasistha | stuart_: ...it would by OO 1.1 though |
| 07:43.43 | stuart_ | well it's easy enough -- eg. from Writer Insert > Object |
| 07:43.56 | stuart_ | a little equation edit window displays |
| 07:44.09 | stuart_ | also a menuj of things |
| 07:44.20 | stuart_ | i closed the menu and cant get it back :) |
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| 07:44.39 | Vasistha | hmm, yeah. I got really angry at OO the other day when it wouldn't treat inserted things properly... yow. Have you looked around the 'View' menu? |
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| 07:44.59 | stuart_ | (although I can still right click in the equation edit window and get a list of symbols) |
| 07:45.01 | stuart_ | yes |
| 07:45.04 | stuart_ | tried view |
| 07:45.10 | stuart_ | tried tools options |
| 07:45.34 | Vasistha | mm, the other thing that comes to mind is rightclick near the border of the object, maybe you have to get it in the right mode |
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| 07:46.37 | stuart_ | tried that too |
| 07:46.43 | stuart_ | it's a mystery |
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| 07:47.28 | Vasistha | stuart_: OO 1.1 or 2? |
| 07:47.38 | stuart_ | 2.0.2 i think |
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| 07:48.25 | Vasistha | hmm, well, I won't bother trying it on 1.1 then :P |
| 07:48.56 | stuart_ | :) |
| 07:49.03 | blondie | how are you meant to tell sysklogd to listen to the network? |
| 07:49.18 | carson_ | is there a way to figure out what packages on my computer are installed from testing and what packages are stable? |
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| 07:49.30 | blondie | the man page says "-r", but how would you specify that when it runs as a service type thing |
| 07:51.42 | Vasistha | blondie: mm, find where the service is run ... probably in /etc/rcS.d, and modify the script probably in /etc/init.d ... though my advice may not necessarily be the wisest! |
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| 07:53.31 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 07:53.35 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:55.13 | blondie | Vasistha: well I thought of that, but thought there should be a "nicer" way |
| 07:56.05 | Vasistha | blondie: nicer way... well, an alias isn't nicer, because it's not necessarily run from bash. |
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| 07:58.25 | Vasistha | blondie: when/how else is sysklogd run, other than as the /etc/init.d script? |
| 07:58.42 | blondie | Vasistha: it's not |
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| 08:00.48 | blondie | Vasistha: I think this'll be what I want - http://www.aboutdebian.com/syslog.htm |
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| 08:01.55 | g333k | Hi, is there a way to personalize the gnome apps menu? you know add, edit, delete apps or titles... or change location etc |
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| 08:02.24 | Vasistha | blondie: nice find, enjoy |
| 08:03.51 | Acidz0r | !ping |
| 08:03.52 | dpkg | pong |
| 08:05.20 | MariusX | hey ppl. I am trying to get the ATI Radeon Mobility card in my laptop going. I have installed the ATI driver pack and when I boot into linux with the .conf it creates I end up with a blank screen as it tries to load gnome. I have the error log for xorg and it tells me "Failed to load module "fglrx" (loader failed, 7)" and that a whole lof of fonts directories are missing. can anyone help me figure out what is wrong? |
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| 08:06.48 | Zvpun | why does "seq -f %.1f 0.0 0.1 1" only count from 0.0 to 0.9? |
| 08:08.22 | MariusX | here is the log file http://pastebin.com/722851 |
| 08:10.28 | fireba11 | how to find out the version number of an installed programm ? |
| 08:10.29 | debian | !test |
| 08:10.30 | dpkg | No, debian, you're not online any more. |
| 08:10.45 | formorer | fireba11: dpkg -l <packagename> |
| 08:11.02 | fireba11 | formorer: what about stuff not isntalled via dpkg ? |
| 08:11.05 | Vasistha | fireba11: dpkg -l programname |
| 08:11.08 | Zvpun | fireba11: apt-cache policy packagename |
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| 08:14.29 | Zvpun | MariusX: "dlopen: libstdc++.so.5: cannot ..." does that mean you have libc5 installed? |
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| 08:15.16 | MariusX | not sure. I will check. what is the name to search for in apt? |
| 08:15.26 | Vasistha | MariusX: have you checked out /msg dpkg ati |
| 08:15.58 | Zvpun | MariusX: I think I was wrong |
| 08:16.31 | Zvpun | MariusX: since it is looking for libstdc++.so.5 which is in libstdc++5 I would do "apt-get install libstdc++5". |
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| 08:17.24 | MariusX | Zvpun: no I don't have it installed. do I need it? |
| 08:17.48 | maikol | anyone know why this would happen with mpg321?: Can't open libao driver with device /dev/dsp (is device in use?) |
| 08:17.49 | Zvpun | MariusX: I would, since the error message says: "dlopen: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 08:17.59 | insmod | MariusX: no you just don't have or have not loaded /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:18.00 | fami | hi |
| 08:18.11 | fami | ifconfig show eth0 and eth0:1 |
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| 08:18.16 | fami | what is eth0:1 |
| 08:18.20 | fami | and how remove it? |
| 08:18.56 | cafuego__ | an alias |
| 08:18.59 | MariusX | I can't find anything in synaptic about fglrx. do I need contrib non-free on the end of my sources? |
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| 08:19.09 | cafuego__ | so one network interface cna use multiple adddresses (and networks) |
| 08:19.31 | insmod | MariusX: no that is the ati driver propriatary |
| 08:19.32 | MariusX | never mind. I already have that on. |
| 08:19.53 | MariusX | so how do I get it? |
| 08:20.16 | fami | cafuego__: on the a sunbnet? |
| 08:20.22 | insmod | MariusX: down load it and install it from ati web site |
| 08:20.30 | fami | on the same subnet? |
| 08:20.34 | MariusX | I downloaded the ATI install file. |
| 08:20.44 | fami | cafuego__: how and where can remove these alias |
| 08:20.52 | insmod | MariusX: did you install it |
| 08:21.05 | fami | cafuego__: i look at interfaces but not |
| 08:21.16 | MariusX | yes. I installed it. then ran aticonfig --initial |
| 08:21.20 | carson_ | is there a way to determine which packages on my computer are from testing and what are from stable? |
| 08:21.45 | insmod | then my guess is you have to symlink it |
| 08:21.54 | MariusX | how do I do that? |
| 08:22.14 | insmod | MariusX: whereis fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:22.53 | MariusX | not sure. I will have a quick look |
| 08:23.19 | insmod | MariusX: just type whereis fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:23.33 | Zvpun | carson_:apt-show-version |
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| 08:23.57 | MariusX | it just came back with fglrx_drv: |
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| 08:24.07 | MariusX | does that mean I dont have it? |
| 08:24.24 | insmod | MariusX: there you go |
| 08:24.39 | MariusX | so how can I get it? |
| 08:24.59 | MariusX | it didn't come with the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Installer |
| 08:25.00 | insmod | MariusX: you may have -- just under a diff name fglrx_drv.so.1 etc |
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| 08:25.28 | insmod | MariusX: just type whereis fglrx |
| 08:25.56 | MariusX | that came back with fglrx: /usr/lib/fglrx /usr/share/fglrx |
| 08:26.10 | insmod | does lsmod list it |
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| 08:27.20 | MariusX | no it doesn't. |
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| 08:27.40 | MariusX | how do I go about getting it and installing it? |
| 08:28.05 | fami | hi cafuego__ |
| 08:28.12 | fami | any idea? |
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| 08:29.39 | insmod | try modprobe fglrx_drv or modprobe fglrx or modprobe fglrx* etc |
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| 08:30.21 | MariusX | not found |
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| 08:30.34 | MariusX | on all three commands |
| 08:31.10 | insmod | try modprobe /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:32.07 | MariusX | it said bash: modprobe: command not found |
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| 08:32.16 | MariusX | do I have to install modprobe? |
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| 08:32.43 | MariusX | sorry. forgot sudo |
| 08:32.45 | insmod | root? |
| 08:32.56 | MariusX | then it said FATAL: Module /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so not found. |
| 08:33.39 | insmod | check that |
| 08:33.52 | MariusX | how do you mean check? |
| 08:34.26 | MariusX | it is the folder? |
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| 08:34.35 | insmod | cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ && ls | grep fglrx_drv |
| 08:35.11 | MariusX | yeah it is there |
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| 08:35.42 | insmod | then insmod -f /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:36.16 | MariusX | it came back with insmod -f /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so |
| 08:36.22 | MariusX | oops. |
| 08:36.42 | MariusX | insmod: error inserting '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so': -1 Invalid module format |
| 08:37.07 | insmod | u installed the wrong ong |
| 08:37.14 | insmod | u installed the wrong one |
| 08:37.29 | MariusX | does it come with ATI Driver pack? |
| 08:37.39 | MariusX | how do I install the correct one? |
| 08:38.02 | insmod | goto the ati web site and read the docs |
| 08:38.13 | MariusX | ok. |
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| 08:41.59 | solid_liq | emacs sucks |
| 08:43.38 | tarzeau | solid_liq: you suck |
| 08:43.45 | MariusX | is there any way to see the bottom of a program that goes off the screen and can't be resized? |
| 08:43.53 | tarzeau | http://VI.MINE.NU |
| 08:44.04 | py_ | how can I recompile the exact same kernal as the stock debian one? eg on sarge I copy the config from /boot to .config in the tree, do make-kpkg, install the .deb; but it does kernel panic: "cannot mount root fs". Has it to do with some kind of initrd or so? |
| 08:44.22 | tarzeau | py_: you forgot --initrd |
| 08:44.59 | Raven007 | py_: or you put in the initrd but forgot about cramfs |
| 08:45.10 | solid_liq | tarzeau: :D |
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| 08:45.36 | py_ | tarzeau: hum, indeed, I did not use --initrd. About cramfs, is it avaiblable in something like vanilla-2.6.17 ? |
| 08:46.01 | tarzeau | py_: just add --initrd |
| 08:46.12 | tarzeau | py_: 2.6.17? why not 2.6.17.1 ? |
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| 08:46.17 | py_ | tarzeau: ok, let's try |
| 08:46.29 | tarzeau | py_: i build mine without initrd |
| 08:46.46 | Raven007 | py_: cramfs is the fs of the ramdisk |
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| 08:46.48 | onsman | how to clear the command history? read thro' man but no mention of it. |
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| 08:47.11 | Raven007 | onsman: rm ~.bash_histrory? |
| 08:47.13 | py_ | Raven007: I know that, but is it supported in the stock 2.6.17(.1) ? |
| 08:47.17 | tarzeau | onsman: history -c |
| 08:47.20 | Raven007 | s/histrory/history |
| 08:47.26 | onsman | thks. |
| 08:47.28 | Raven007 | py_: ofc |
| 08:47.36 | tarzeau | Raven007: who said he has bash? |
| 08:47.43 | Raven007 | tarzeau: i assumed |
| 08:47.48 | Raven007 | onsman: bash? |
| 08:48.06 | onsman | yeh. it has worked. |
| 08:48.15 | Raven007 | onsman: rm or history -c ? :) |
| 08:48.22 | onsman | -c |
| 08:48.26 | Raven007 | heh |
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| 08:49.09 | onsman | how to tell which shell i am using? |
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| 08:49.21 | |matej| | echo $SHELL |
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| 08:49.59 | onsman | it is bash. |
| 08:50.05 | Raven007 | ;) |
| 08:50.08 | RvGaTe | when i do a ping outside the LAN, it gives me a connect: Network is unreachable... but i can ping the gateway perfectly, and other users can go on the internet, but not the linux server... i do know the domain controller has an authed proxy server... but i have no idea how do use the proxy and auth to it |
| 08:50.13 | tarzeau | 2 or 3.x? |
| 08:50.17 | g333k | hi, do you know how can I install VLC player in etch? |
| 08:50.23 | onsman | Huahua, English only, ok? |
| 08:50.39 | blondie | oh dear |
| 08:50.50 | tarzeau | onsman: echo $BASH_VERSION |
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| 08:51.15 | |matej| | g333k: aptitude install vlc? |
| 08:51.40 | g333k | |matej|, is not avaiale |
| 08:51.45 | g333k | avaiable* |
| 08:51.49 | onsman | tarzeau, 3.1.14(1)-release |
| 08:51.59 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: sounds like your default gateway isn't set up. Do you use dhcp or a static ip address? |
| 08:52.09 | Raven007 | apt-spy -d unstable |
| 08:52.29 | MariusX | insmod: the ati pack doesn't give me any other options for installation. I also looked at the install log and it came back with http://pastebin.com/722900 |
| 08:52.33 | RvGaTe | jelly-home: the problem is that i cant use the internet unless i auth to the proxy... default gateway all go to the right place |
| 08:52.47 | onsman | tarzeau, so? |
| 08:52.52 | |matej| | g333k: sorry, aptitude -t unstable install vlc |
| 08:53.15 | Raven007 | |matej|: maybe he doesn't have the right repositoryes |
| 08:53.24 | Raven007 | so, apt-spy -d unstable |
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| 08:53.32 | tarzeau | onsman: nothing |
| 08:53.55 | liable | hola |
| 08:53.57 | g333k | I have the "etch" = "testing" repositories right? |
| 08:53.59 | onsman | blondie, why do u 'oh dear'? |
| 08:54.08 | blondie | !u |
| 08:54.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 08:54.25 | onsman | blondie, damn it, its James, not Jim. |
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| 08:54.29 | |matej| | sure, videolan.org might help. see http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html |
| 08:54.39 | T1 | how to get apt-get to reinstall config files... i deleted /etc/apache2 ? |
| 08:54.52 | blondie | onsman: wrong |
| 08:55.00 | liable | !tell T1 about confmiss |
| 08:55.05 | g333k | |matej|, they dont give support for testing :( |
| 08:55.09 | onsman | blondie, right. |
| 08:55.18 | blondie | onsman: yes I am |
| 08:55.21 | liable | T1: you will prolly need to make the dir first, and why oh why did you do that? |
| 08:55.27 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: ah. no idea there. check with your friendly AD admin? |
| 08:55.30 | RvGaTe | jelly-home: i found proxychains, but i cant install it :P becouse i have no internet... haha, going for an offline install then :P |
| 08:55.59 | onsman | blondie, everytime instead of using 'I', u should use your fullname instead. |
| 08:56.01 | RvGaTe | jelly-home: he has no clue either... and he cant make a exception rule for the linux server |
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| 08:56.13 | blondie | onsman: no, that would be talking in the third person |
| 08:56.15 | |matej| | g333k: try put their lines into sources.list and try run aptitude. examine depencies and try to install it req. pkgs from etch |
| 08:56.17 | solid_liq | gnome sucks |
| 08:56.18 | blondie | and it's YOU not U |
| 08:56.27 | blondie | onsman: read a dictionary, you won't find "u" as a word in there |
| 08:56.31 | blondie | you will however find "I" |
| 08:56.33 | onsman | blondie, or better still, put a photo of your own self. |
| 08:56.40 | blondie | tard |
| 08:56.57 | MariusX | insmod: what do I have to do to fix the errors in that log? |
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| 08:57.07 | g333k | |matej|, I've already tried... I added the repositories that they give for Sid... but I have broken pkgs |
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| 08:57.18 | onsman | blondie, dictionary is not dead, it is regularly revised with new addition of words. |
| 08:57.26 | g333k | I think I will have to use the unstable repos too |
| 08:57.33 | onsman | blondie, shit |
| 08:57.41 | blondie | onsman: and "u" isn't a word, it's a LETTER |
| 08:58.00 | |matej| | g333k: try to add unstable repository to sources.list for a while. update and install req. pkgs from sid. |
| 08:58.07 | onsman | blondie, so is 'I'. |
| 08:58.17 | streuner | blondie: use ignore... |
| 08:58.19 | blondie | onsman: yes, but I is also a word. |
| 08:58.24 | onsman | words become acceptable with wide usage. |
| 08:58.25 | blondie | streuner: I'm too angry :( |
| 08:58.27 | |matej| | g333k: they will soon migrate to etch.. hopefully :) |
| 08:58.35 | streuner | blondie: well, so use it now.. |
| 08:59.04 | onsman | blondie, how do u think the word 'blondie' comes about? |
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| 08:59.50 | T1 | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 if i do this it does try to reinstall.. but no configs get installed |
| 08:59.51 | g333k | |matej|, Thats what I dont want to do... its maybe risky....but theres no way.... I will take the risk |
| 09:00.19 | liable | T1: you didnt read what i said... |
| 09:00.38 | onsman | blondie, stop pretending to be one whne everyone knows u have a dick. |
| 09:00.47 | T1 | did mkdir /etc/apache2 |
| 09:00.51 | streuner | onsman: stop that. |
| 09:01.16 | onsman | blondie, u want to be a dickie blondie? lol |
| 09:01.18 | g333k | Do you.... someday didnt ask to yourself "why does the gnu/linux creators made it case sensitive?" is there a strong reason? |
| 09:01.32 | streuner | !ops onsman keeps insulting people |
| 09:01.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: streuner complains about: onsman keeps insulting people |
| 09:01.44 | liable | onsman: stop trolling or you'll get banned. |
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| 09:01.53 | streuner | thanks azeem |
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| 09:02.06 | liable | onsman: see! |
| 09:02.06 | T1 | liable i did mkdir /etc/apache2.. |
| 09:02.07 | azeem | onsman: you've been banned for 10 minutes |
| 09:02.18 | azeem | or rather, until I've moved from home to university |
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| 09:02.54 | g333k | how old are you friends? |
| 09:03.22 | g333k | I always ask to myself ... who is behind these nicks |
| 09:03.27 | g333k | who are* |
| 09:03.37 | streuner | stay here for a while and find out |
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| 09:03.42 | g333k | lol |
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| 09:04.48 | azeem | blondie: but really, don't get too obsessed with that `u' stuff - just /ignore those people please |
| 09:04.52 | streuner | a couple of Debian Developer, some regulars (people who using Debian) and most of them are idlers ;-) |
| 09:05.04 | blondie | fine |
| 09:05.12 | liable | heh 600 idlers :) |
| 09:05.21 | RvGaTe | make that 599 |
| 09:05.28 | streuner | nah, but 80 percent, i think |
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| 09:06.04 | T1 | liable you got any thing else i could try? |
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| 09:06.11 | Boter | good morning #debian |
| 09:06.16 | Boter | anybody know what to do sisdrv_430_20040604.o |
| 09:06.16 | liable | T1: no |
| 09:06.17 | g333k | yeah! why there are many people... "just connected" ? are they ghosts? |
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| 09:06.27 | Boter | it's driver for sis graphic card |
| 09:06.33 | Boter | what to do with it? |
| 09:06.42 | Myon | g333k: they idle, and talk once a day or week |
| 09:06.46 | Myon | (or not at all) |
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| 09:07.05 | g333k | Myon, but what does the get doing that? |
| 09:07.16 | g333k | *they |
| 09:07.21 | streuner | you should ask them not us |
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| 09:08.13 | RvGaTe | this is scary, for the first time ever im going to use a floppy disk with a package on it, and install it... it imidiatly brought me down to a problem... how do i access it... /dev/fd is empty... :S (n00b question) |
| 09:08.15 | liable | g333k: a lot of poeple just leave there client running on a server, and use it when they feel like it.. whether thats once a day or week or month or whatever.. |
| 09:08.15 | blondie | because there's no reason to /part or /quit :P |
| 09:08.37 | blondie | what liable said |
| 09:08.38 | g333k | streuner, ask to a "idler"... lol..... you could get the answer in a couple of days luckily |
| 09:08.51 | RvGaTe | ask me... i can tell you |
| 09:09.08 | Boter | anybody? |
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| 09:09.38 | ktwilight | Boter, i think you may need to mount it first |
| 09:09.48 | g333k | RvGaTe, 99% percent posibilities that the floppy is going to fail |
| 09:09.55 | Boter | ktwilight how? |
| 09:10.06 | RvGaTe | g333k tell me why... |
| 09:10.19 | g333k | RvGaTe, Dont you use pen drives? |
| 09:10.22 | ktwilight | hmm... |
| 09:10.27 | RvGaTe | g333k: no |
| 09:10.36 | RvGaTe | g333k: couldn't find one reallly |
| 09:10.37 | ktwilight | i think it's mount -t vfat /dev/fd /path/to |
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| 09:11.02 | g333k | ktwilight, correct |
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| 09:11.19 | znuron | i fuck azeem's mother, wife, sisters, nieces,cousins all from the front and back until they are all dripping wet. I then send azeem to lick them all dry. |
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| 09:11.28 | ktwilight | ... |
| 09:11.50 | liable | some people have to have the last word i guess.. |
| 09:11.55 | g333k | ktwilight, maybe he could use fd0 instead fd |
| 09:11.57 | Boter | ktwilight and than? |
| 09:12.12 | liable | Boter: i dont think he is talking to you actually |
| 09:12.13 | ktwilight | Boter, if there aren't any errors when you did that, all you have to do is just go to /path/to |
| 09:12.22 | ktwilight | ... |
| 09:12.28 | liable | mount a module? |
| 09:12.34 | ktwilight | mount a floppy drive |
| 09:12.41 | liable | right |
| 09:12.42 | g333k | this is weird..... funny things happening in the #debian channel |
| 09:12.47 | liable | !confuse ktwilight |
| 09:12.47 | dpkg | No, those was your gouda yesterday, ktwilight? lederhosen of the democracy of belarus with extra crabpaste |
| 09:12.57 | ktwilight | @.@ |
| 09:13.05 | Boter | i just have sisdrv_430_20040604.o and this is driver for sis graphic card |
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| 09:13.09 | ktwilight | ... |
| 09:13.16 | ktwilight | ok...this is just...weird... |
| 09:13.18 | Boter | but i dont know how to install |
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| 09:13.34 | ktwilight | oh wait~ |
| 09:13.41 | ktwilight | wrong person! doh! |
| 09:13.45 | Boter | ok i'm waiting :D |
| 09:14.00 | ktwilight | it was meant for RvGaTe not you Boter :/ |
| 09:14.11 | Boter | so anyone know what i must do |
| 09:14.54 | liable | Boter: this is just a binary package that doesnt even have a script to intergrate it into your kernel? |
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| 09:15.29 | ktwilight | interesting, google turns up with chinese sites for that module :/ |
| 09:15.31 | liable | Boter: you could try modprobe /path/to/module but i dunno if it will work |
| 09:15.32 | Boter | just that file i told |
| 09:15.45 | Boter | path to this .o file= |
| 09:15.47 | Boter | ? |
| 09:15.52 | liable | yes |
| 09:16.02 | g333k | A *.o file is a module? or the *.ko ? |
| 09:16.22 | ktwilight | it won't work, according to one of the chinese sites |
| 09:16.26 | liable | both afaik, though you dont often see .o |
| 09:16.45 | Boter | liable troo :) |
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| 09:17.13 | Boter | modprobe /root/sisdrv_430_20040604.o |
| 09:17.14 | Boter | FATAL: Module /root/sisdrv_430_20040604.o not found. |
| 09:17.27 | g333k | waaaa it's 4.15am and I still dont wat to sleep :( |
| 09:17.40 | g333k | *want |
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| 09:17.48 | skruwilus | hi therrew |
| 09:17.50 | RvGaTe | g333k: grab a couple of beers, then try to do something thats really impossible.... |
| 09:17.54 | skruwilus | i am just installing debian on a server we have here |
| 09:18.03 | skruwilus | but it does not find the sata HD |
| 09:18.05 | liable | have a pull |
| 09:18.06 | RvGaTe | g333k: you'll get bored of trying, and you'll need sleep |
| 09:18.12 | skruwilus | it worked without any problems on the gentoo box we had |
| 09:18.15 | g333k | RvGaTe, make my webcam works? |
| 09:18.15 | skruwilus | same hardware |
| 09:18.17 | skruwilus | any ideas? |
| 09:18.32 | RvGaTe | g333k: could be impossible if you "webcam" is a pencil |
| 09:18.36 | liable | skruwilus: same kernel versions though? |
| 09:18.43 | skruwilus | i dont know |
| 09:18.46 | skruwilus | hmm.. |
| 09:18.48 | skruwilus | might be it |
| 09:18.51 | g333k | RvGaTe, is too modern |
| 09:19.02 | skruwilus | liable, how would i fix this? |
| 09:19.08 | skruwilus | use another version of debian? |
| 09:19.11 | g333k | RvGaTe, and is a creative so.... |
| 09:19.15 | skruwilus | i would like to have the stable one |
| 09:19.17 | liable | skruwilus: you want stable debian on it? |
| 09:19.25 | liable | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 09:19.25 | dpkg | somebody said sarge 2.6.15 was http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 09:19.32 | liable | skruwilus: try that ^^ |
| 09:19.38 | skruwilus | liable, hmm... i am installing from cd |
| 09:19.43 | skruwilus | should i download another cd? |
| 09:19.51 | Boter | anybody? |
| 09:20.03 | liable | skruwilus: or alternatively, install a pata drive and then a newer kernel and copy over |
| 09:20.16 | liable | skruwilus: erm, that is a iso |
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| 09:20.30 | skruwilus | that seems to be a annoying fix to it |
| 09:20.46 | skruwilus | are there any stable debian versions with newer kernels? |
| 09:20.49 | liable | so try the link dpkg gave |
| 09:20.50 | skruwilus | that i can download? |
| 09:21.02 | liable | thats what i just gave you a link to! |
| 09:21.12 | skruwilus | i get it ;0 |
| 09:21.16 | skruwilus | a bit tired sorry heh |
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| 09:22.05 | RvGaTe | How do i install downloaded packages ? |
| 09:22.14 | RvGaTe | without apt-get install |
| 09:22.25 | streuner | RvGaTe: dpkg -i package |
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| 09:22.29 | sls | how i can add user in linux? |
| 09:22.31 | RvGaTe | thank you |
| 09:22.45 | liable | adduser |
| 09:23.13 | g333k | OT- Theres a bargain in staples.. a Laser printer for 169 with 60 bucks of rebate |
| 09:23.50 | sls | does anyone know why I can only get a black screen after installing linux? |
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| 09:24.15 | g333k | sls, did you install a X server? |
| 09:24.17 | streuner | sls: what did you install debian, ubuntu, redhat? |
| 09:24.30 | liable | !qotd110 |
| 09:24.31 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
| 09:24.38 | liable | :D |
| 09:25.56 | sls | it's just a plain black screen that won't go away |
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| 09:26.25 | liable | does it have text on it or nothing at all? |
| 09:28.41 | Boter | so nobody knows how to install SiS video card drivers |
| 09:30.17 | liable | Boter: what is the actuall card? |
| 09:31.22 | arron | how can i get mail from my /var/mail/user dir to something imapd can see? |
| 09:32.01 | g333k | is v4l a module? |
| 09:32.42 | Boter | liable some integrated sis graphic card |
| 09:32.44 | streuner | Boter: in the past you had to get some drivers |
| 09:33.04 | Boter | i dont have it |
| 09:33.07 | streuner | Boter: but in xorg 7.0 those drivers are part of the x system |
| 09:33.18 | liable | g333k: for x yeah, theres several different v4l modules in the kernel though |
| 09:33.21 | Boter | it looks not |
| 09:33.22 | streuner | Boter: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 09:33.42 | py_ | Is it right that the last debian patched kernel-source is 2.6.8?? |
| 09:33.52 | Boter | streuner 1 moment |
| 09:33.59 | liable | for stable, yes |
| 09:34.02 | streuner | !tell Boter about sis |
| 09:34.03 | liable | py_: ^^ |
| 09:34.10 | Boter | streuner well it's gentoo :P |
| 09:34.28 | g333k | How can I know what modules do I have avaiable to load? |
| 09:34.35 | streuner | !gentoosmite Boter |
| 09:35.07 | liable | g333k: modprobe -l |
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| 09:36.52 | py_ | liable: well, I'm making a search on packages.debian.org, on "kernel-source", and 2.6.8 is the latest returned, even when I select "Distribution: any" |
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| 09:37.38 | sep | py_, it's renamed after sarge new is linux-source |
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| 09:37.57 | py_ | sep: ok! that indeed does make sense :-) |
| 09:39.45 | saintiss | hmm, is it just me, or have there been no updates in testing for at least 2 weeks? |
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| 09:40.47 | DediZone_ | Im trying to filter network traffic on a binary level |
| 09:41.16 | PumpkinPie | Im trying to filter network traffic on a binary level. How can I do this? |
| 09:41.20 | arron | how can i get mail from my /var/mail/user dir to something imapd can see? |
| 09:41.48 | solid_liq | PumpkinPie: read up on iptables |
| 09:42.45 | PumpkinPie | solid_liq: you know for a fact that iptables can do this? |
| 09:43.47 | PumpkinPie | not just filter but inject and capture more so |
| 09:43.50 | ktwilight | saintiss, it's you. i have been gettin' updates nearly every other day. |
| 09:44.03 | ktwilight | saintiss, though it also depends on what softwares you have. :/ |
| 09:44.05 | sep | PumpkinPie, you want to filter on a binary level ??? what does that mean ? you'll allow only 1's and dropping 0's ? :) |
| 09:44.17 | saintiss | ktwilight, interesting... could you name a package which has been updated the last day? |
| 09:44.27 | PumpkinPie | sep: capture and replace |
| 09:45.02 | ktwilight | saintiss, can't remember 'em all, but today, there's libtag1c2a libtagc0 libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-nss libxmlsec1-openssl thunar |
| 09:45.05 | DA_ | i cant seem to get gimp to fix broken dependencies by itself: gimp: Depends: gimp-data (= 2.2.11-1) but 2.2.11-3 is to be installed - 2.2.11-1 is installed right now - terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error' |
| 09:45.11 | DA_ | oops had more to paste |
| 09:45.15 | DA_ | oh well |
| 09:45.16 | saintiss | ktwilight, ok, thanks |
| 09:45.41 | ktwilight | saintiss, just make srue your sources.list is correct, then apt-get update. :) |
| 09:45.50 | ktwilight | if there isn't any, there isn't. differs from one person to another anywayz. |
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| 09:46.14 | saintiss | ktwilight, could you check to what version apt would upgrade libtag1c2a? |
| 09:46.34 | ktwilight | how do i do that? :/ |
| 09:46.54 | saintiss | ktwilight, or just tell me what version you have now :) |
| 09:46.56 | saintiss | dpkg -l libtag1c2a |
| 09:46.57 | dpkg | No packages found matching libtag1c2a |
| 09:47.14 | liable | dpkg: shuddup |
| 09:47.14 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 09:47.15 | ktwilight | 1.4-4 |
| 09:47.43 | saintiss | ktwilight, hmm, you seem to have unstable then, instead of testing? |
| 09:47.52 | ktwilight | no kidding. |
| 09:48.17 | ktwilight | nope, sources.list says it's etch |
| 09:48.28 | saintiss | really... that's odd |
| 09:48.32 | saintiss | Package libtag1c2a |
| 09:48.32 | saintiss | testing (libs): TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library |
| 09:48.32 | saintiss | 1.4-3: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc |
| 09:48.34 | ktwilight | very |
| 09:48.36 | saintiss | this is from packages.debian.org |
| 09:48.41 | ktwilight | hm |
| 09:48.42 | liable | !info libtag1c2a etch |
| 09:48.47 | dpkg | libtag1c2a: (TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.4-3 (etch), Packaged size: 101 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 09:48.56 | liable | !info libtag1c2a |
| 09:48.57 | DA_ | ktwilight: 1.4-4 is what i have for current unstable version |
| 09:49.01 | dpkg | libtag1c2a: (TagLib Audio Meta-Data Library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.4-4 (sid), Packaged size: 106 kB, Installed size: 316 kB |
| 09:49.13 | ktwilight | weird, very weird |
| 09:49.22 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 09:49.28 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@cm200.epsilon175.maxonline.com.sg] by azeem |
| 09:49.30 | ktwilight | but i never have sid/unstable in my sources.list |
| 09:49.30 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 09:49.57 | DA_ | ktwilight: did you download the .deb? |
| 09:50.01 | liable | azeem: erm, i dont think you want to do that, read scrollback, about 5 mins after the ban |
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| 09:50.10 | ktwilight | apt-cache policy libtag1c2a shows that it's taking from http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main Packages |
| 09:50.25 | azeem | everybody gets a second chance |
| 09:50.31 | ktwilight | what do you mean DA_? |
| 09:50.44 | wamty | In debina, all the runlevels starts gdm, except 6 and 1 ??? |
| 09:51.05 | wamty | Debian* |
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| 09:51.41 | wamty | 6 is reboot right? |
| 09:51.42 | ktwilight | even in apt.conf i have testing. |
| 09:51.58 | ktwilight | so it's definitely weird :/ |
| 09:52.16 | azeem | wamty: yes |
| 09:52.16 | liable | azeem: /lastlog znuron .. |
| 09:52.17 | ktwilight | only explaination is 'cuz of thunar (xfce's window manager) |
| 09:52.24 | DA_ | wamty: you can stop the display manager from starting on boot by placing something like "/dev/null" in /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 09:52.30 | azeem | liable: yeah, he highlighted me |
| 09:53.06 | streuner | azeem, liable: he comes usually almost every 2-3 months and did the same... |
| 09:53.12 | liable | oh well.. *shrug* |
| 09:53.29 | azeem | I don't care as much as long as he's not abusive to other users/regulars |
| 09:54.10 | azeem | I don't have wife, cousins or nieces, anyway :P |
| 09:55.23 | wamty | how to grant full access to user? |
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| 09:56.22 | saintiss | ok, changing my question: is it possible to check the latest packages to have been added to etch? |
| 09:56.33 | GeeK_ | hello all |
| 09:57.13 | streuner | saintiss: on your box (system) only? use ls -lt /var/lib/dpkg/info/* |
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| 09:57.19 | saintiss | streuner, no, remote |
| 09:57.51 | maher | does anyone know something about BIND Zone Transfers? |
| 09:57.56 | saintiss | streuner, I want to know if I've been missing updates |
| 09:58.05 | saintiss | so I want to check if I have the latest etch package on my system already |
| 09:58.14 | GeeK_ | i have problem to config Xorg on my dell D610 with touchpad .... |
| 09:58.22 | GeeK_ | someone have an idea please? |
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| 09:59.50 | sonasks | hey, is there any utility for bash ( not a parser ) that can count the letters in a word ? |
| 10:00.06 | sonasks | command_name word |
| 10:00.11 | sonasks | and teh result will be 4 |
| 10:00.18 | jelly-home | echo word |wc -c |
| 10:01.23 | sonasks | gives me one more the real count |
| 10:01.47 | sonasks | echo word|wc -c gives me 5 |
| 10:01.55 | jelly-home | then, echo -n word |wc -c |
| 10:02.10 | sonasks | oh, ok |
| 10:02.13 | sonasks | thanks a lot |
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| 10:03.49 | GeeK_ | nobody use a Dell D610 ? |
| 10:04.12 | azeem | GeeK_: if that's a notebook, check www.tuxmobile.org |
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| 10:05.56 | GeeK_ | yes it's a notebook ,but i have problem with Xorg and touchpad on it |
| 10:06.11 | GeeK_ | Xorg's log return me , no core pointer |
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| 10:09.15 | arron | how can i get mail from my /var/mail/user dir to something imapd can see? |
| 10:10.29 | f00li5h | oh |
| 10:10.52 | f00li5h | arron: you could install uw imap, doesn't it do that automagically |
| 10:11.05 | f00li5h | crud, i may be thinking of courier imap.. |
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| 10:11.49 | arron | i have, it doesn't. i can see my mail in /var/mail with mutt, but evolution doen't see it with imap |
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| 10:12.30 | AMorozov | Hi! |
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| 10:12.56 | knight3 | hey guys just installed phpbb2 with apt-get does anyone know what it sets the default admin account and password 2???? |
| 10:13.26 | arron | knight3: tried root? |
| 10:13.27 | AMorozov | Does Debian have a sort of 'backports' repository? I need mailman-2.1.6 built for sarge. |
| 10:13.52 | knight3 | tried yet |
| 10:13.56 | knight3 | tried yea** |
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| 10:14.02 | vopicak | heya |
| 10:14.12 | vopicak | bash: make: command not found |
| 10:14.20 | vopicak | wtf is that ? |
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| 10:14.28 | f00li5h | arron: hrm, do you need to subscribe to any folders first? |
| 10:16.11 | AMorozov | Ok, I was told about http://www.backports.org. Thank you |
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| 10:17.57 | liable | !b-e vopicak |
| 10:17.58 | dpkg | vopicak: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 10:19.26 | vopicak | thanks |
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| 10:21.44 | Sonderblade | how do you check which package installed a certain file? |
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| 10:22.14 | liable | Sonderblade: dpkg -S or apt-file |
| 10:23.48 | Sonderblade | liable: dpkg -S doesn't work like that |
| 10:24.45 | Sonderblade | for example i have the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf i want to know which package installed it |
| 10:24.58 | vopicak | chm, |
| 10:24.58 | tralala | Sonderblade: dpkg -S /path/to/file will give you the package that has installed the file |
| 10:25.33 | vopicak | curses.h no such file or directory ... in which packege it is ? i tried ncurses but nothing ... |
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| 10:27.57 | liable | vopicak: libncurses5-dev prolly |
| 10:28.37 | kayanaman | how do you use proxy with irssi? |
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| 10:31.21 | RvGaTe | do: debian-iso/current/debian-30r4-i386-binary-1.iso to disk7 contain all the packages? if so, how do i know to find out what disk i need for a certain package? |
| 10:31.34 | RvGaTe | note, i do not have access to internet |
| 10:31.46 | RvGaTe | (on the linux box that is) |
| 10:32.07 | liable | hrm theres a factoid that i cant remember for that |
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| 10:33.53 | seabass | how do i set up a package with debian own package manager? |
| 10:33.59 | seabass | like for example mysql |
| 10:34.14 | liable | !searchjigdo |
| 10:34.15 | dpkg | searchjigdo is, like, http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search |
| 10:34.17 | liable | RvGaTe: ^^ |
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| 10:34.34 | seabass | anyone? |
| 10:34.57 | liable | kayanaman: check the docs at irssi.org or ask in #irssi |
| 10:35.34 | USmarine | i removed the "users" group by mistake, does any1 know how i can add it back? |
| 10:35.43 | seabass | how do i reconfigure a package in debian? |
| 10:35.58 | USmarine | seabass, dpkg-reconfigure pkg |
| 10:36.06 | seabass | aah |
| 10:36.07 | seabass | yeah |
| 10:36.09 | seabass | crapp |
| 10:36.14 | seabass | havent been using debian for years ;0 |
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| 10:38.16 | USmarine | seabass, |
| 10:38.22 | seabass | yes? |
| 10:39.12 | USmarine | nvm, i solved my problem |
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| 10:41.14 | seabass | yes sir |
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| 10:46.30 | liable | !moo |
| 10:46.30 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 10:50.43 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 10:50.47 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:51.31 | liable | stop doing that |
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| 10:51.46 | blondie | !ops mokey needs a ban... |
| 10:51.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: blondie complains about: mokey needs a ban... |
| 10:52.00 | dimir | Ye, he just asks for it. |
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| 10:52.52 | liable | good timing ;) |
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| 10:54.55 | Maulkin | Sorry for teh delay, forgot to load the kickban script thing |
| 10:55.48 | blondie | :) |
| 10:56.07 | wamty | how to add port in iptables |
| 10:56.12 | wamty | ex i want to add 6667 port |
| 10:56.19 | USmarine | wouldnt work unless u were root |
| 10:56.26 | USmarine | i mean op |
| 10:56.28 | wamty | i want to allow it |
| 10:56.45 | wamty | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 6667 -j ACCEPT |
| 10:56.45 | blondie | USmarine: you can ask chanserv to kick I should think |
| 10:56.46 | wamty | ? |
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| 10:57.56 | five0 | is there a gtk2-engine for pixmap on any of the repos? |
| 10:58.17 | USmarine | five0, y |
| 10:58.26 | wamty | about iptables, if my gateway opens up just 80, 21, end 5 others, can i still use torrent with it? |
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| 10:58.31 | wotdu | hello |
| 10:58.34 | OleMoudi | is there any way to stop metacity autoraising a newly created window? |
| 10:58.43 | vopicak | :)) |
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| 10:59.04 | five0 | USmarine: where is it located? |
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| 10:59.44 | USmarine | five0, apt-cache search gtk2-engine |
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| 11:00.21 | seabass | how can i see what files are in a package? |
| 11:00.29 | seabass | and the location of them |
| 11:00.31 | seabass | libphp-adodb |
| 11:00.38 | seabass | i am trying to install base |
| 11:00.49 | seabass | andi i get "The Path to ADODB does not appear to be correct!" |
| 11:00.49 | liable | dpkg -L foo |
| 11:00.49 | dpkg | ii foo 3.8-11.3 liable's private stamp collection |
| 11:00.57 | seabass | thnx ;) |
| 11:01.07 | five0 | USmarine: you must be getting pixmap with that. odd system |
| 11:01.20 | seabass | i need to go through the damn manfiles |
| 11:01.47 | wotdu | i have a question, are the deb packages from debian "standard", i mean, everything like it came from source, no altered icons, no altered things like saying Debian all over |
| 11:02.18 | USmarine | five0, say what? |
| 11:02.22 | five0 | wotdu: some patches for layout, i suppose |
| 11:02.31 | five0 | wotdu: file/dir layout |
| 11:02.47 | Maulkin | wotdu: Normally, very little changes between upstream and the Debian version. It's mostly things to ensure it complies with policy. |
| 11:03.08 | Maulkin | wotdu: You can get the originals, and the diff file from http://packages.debian.org/packagename |
| 11:03.17 | wotdu | thanks : ) |
| 11:03.29 | wotdu | i'm leaving ubuntu because of that problem |
| 11:03.41 | Maulkin | heh :) |
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| 11:04.26 | USmarine | five0, gtk2-engines-qtpixmap - QtPixmap GTK2.x theming engine |
| 11:04.28 | manne | Hi, some minutes ago i made a dist-upgrade. The result is that i cannot og into kde from kdm. when i start X and do a startkde manually, i can log into kde. what is the problem |
| 11:04.31 | USmarine | isnt this what you want? |
| 11:04.43 | USmarine | manne, xorg broke? |
| 11:04.45 | saara | what apt options should one use to install software from experimental? |
| 11:04.45 | Maulkin | wotdu: In terms of GUI and look and feel, I think that a Debian theme (for Gnome, for example) is installed by default, but it's very easy to switch to any of the others. |
| 11:05.29 | wotdu | i hope the gnome menu icon isnt debian symbol :P |
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| 11:05.43 | Maulkin | wotdu: nope, it's not :) |
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| 11:05.48 | manne | no. because i just upgraded the packages from today. x runs well |
| 11:06.00 | USmarine | then |
| 11:06.01 | wotdu | Maulkin: another thing |
| 11:06.10 | USmarine | . /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
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| 11:06.17 | wotdu | do you know how stable amd64 testing is ? |
| 11:06.24 | Jemt | Morning |
| 11:06.38 | saara | hello |
| 11:06.40 | saara | what apt options should one use to install software from experimental? |
| 11:07.05 | Maulkin | wotdu: It's, erm... testing :) |
| 11:07.15 | Maulkin | wotdu: Probably just as stable as ubuntu :) |
| 11:07.15 | wotdu | y but you know debian :P |
| 11:07.19 | manne | i did this ... i restarted as well. |
| 11:07.20 | saara | i am curious to test out unstable gimp |
| 11:07.22 | alexbodn | add experimental to /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 11:07.23 | wotdu | "stable" is very outdated |
| 11:07.34 | saara | i have experimental on mu sources.lst |
| 11:07.37 | Jemt | I installed Debian yesterday, and it works pretty great. I am having some issues though. Can someone help me get CPU scaling work (Speedstep)? I have a Pentium M processor. I am also using kernel 2.6.x |
| 11:07.38 | Maulkin | wotdu: Not really. Sarge is only a year old. |
| 11:07.46 | alexbodn | mu? |
| 11:07.48 | manne | I just updated dbus. libtiff |
| 11:07.59 | saara | but apt refuses to pull software from experimental |
| 11:08.00 | streuner | manne: sid? |
| 11:08.01 | wotdu | "only" a year old |
| 11:08.07 | wotdu | that's like centurys in computing |
| 11:08.09 | manne | and some other little libs .. yes |
| 11:08.10 | Newk | hi.. got a question about libraries: i need a library called 'libcupsys2-gnutls10' ... i have a lib called 'libcupsys2' wich says it provide 'libcupsys2-gnutls10'... dont i need to get it seperatly then? (this in a package manager) |
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| 11:08.13 | saara | does it rewquiore some special options? |
| 11:08.13 | wotdu | *centuries |
| 11:08.14 | manne | i am using sid |
| 11:08.20 | streuner | manna: downgrade dbus... |
| 11:08.31 | streuner | manna: otherwise X won't work |
| 11:09.18 | liable | Jemt: did you install sarge? |
| 11:09.24 | manne | ok. you can start X but just manually |
| 11:09.29 | liable | !tell Jemt about laptop |
| 11:09.31 | Jemt | liable: Yes, I did :) |
| 11:09.36 | Jemt | liable, Thanks :) |
| 11:09.47 | manne | so X, than export DISPLAY and after startkde |
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| 11:10.07 | saara | does apt require some special options to install experimental software, or not? |
| 11:10.13 | alexbodn | saara, study /etc/apt/preferences |
| 11:10.25 | liable | Jemt: see what others did. theres several cpu freq governors. personally i like the on-demand one, but its not compiled in stock sarge kernels |
| 11:10.52 | liable | Jemt: others generally require a daemon |
| 11:10.57 | Jemt | liable: Well, I want it to run automatically - but I'll check out the pages - thanks :) |
| 11:11.07 | Jemt | liable: I think I used powernowd in Ubuntu |
| 11:11.15 | Maulkin | wotdu: Not really. I mean, look at how long it's been since WinXP was released :) |
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| 11:11.35 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
| 11:11.39 | Maulkin | wotdu: *I* havent' had any problems recently with testing, but bear in mind, it's not considered 'stable'. |
| 11:11.47 | solemnwarning | What package contains the /usr/include tree? |
| 11:11.48 | liable | Jemt: install it and read the docs then :) i dont personally have any experirence with it |
| 11:11.56 | Jemt | liable: Sec, phone |
| 11:11.56 | wotdu | Maulkin: but that's different, the applications you actually use, like browsers for example, have been updated |
| 11:12.34 | liable | Jemt: no worries, i gotta do the dishes anyway :P |
| 11:13.07 | jelly-home | solemnwarning: most -dev packages put their C include files there. |
| 11:13.17 | Jemt | liable :) |
| 11:13.19 | solemnwarning | I mean normal headers like stdio.h |
| 11:13.35 | solemnwarning | I don't have a normal /usr/include tree on a machine I just setup for some reason |
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| 11:14.43 | jelly-home | solemnwarning: libc6-dev. If you want to compile things, "apt-get install build-essential" will install, well, the essentials. |
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| 11:17.12 | cusco | woa |
| 11:17.22 | cusco | I thought this channel was gone |
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| 11:17.56 | cusco | . |
| 11:18.11 | eastwood | 0o |
| 11:19.25 | liable | just the cname changed (ie the link from irc.debian.org) |
| 11:19.48 | blondie | cusco: never! |
| 11:20.31 | eastwood | cusco, maybe you've been gone from here for a while |
| 11:20.31 | cusco | yes.. it was forwarding to "moved" |
| 11:20.45 | cusco | yea.. oh well nevermind |
| 11:20.56 | cusco | I finally made dri working on xorg7 -_- |
| 11:21.27 | RvGaTe | A .deb file contains information on where the files are located? and its dependencies? |
| 11:21.56 | cusco | yes |
| 11:22.40 | RvGaTe | so if i download a .tar.gz (the package itself) togetter with the .deb, i could automaticly install and configure it? like if i just did apt-get install package ? |
| 11:26.03 | Maulkin | RvGaTe: Erm... the .deb is the package itself too... |
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| 11:27.20 | cusco | the .deb has everything you need |
| 11:27.32 | nosklo | RvGaTe, you dont need the .tar.gz |
| 11:27.32 | cusco | dpkg -i deb.deb |
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| 11:27.55 | liable | plus dependancies |
| 11:29.14 | RvGaTe | Maulkin: the .deb is only 15kb to 18kb, and the package is 182kb, how can it contain the package to? :) |
| 11:32.41 | Newk | can i ask my question again or was it stupid? |
| 11:33.37 | eastwood | Newk, i didnt see your question |
| 11:33.55 | Newk | got a question about libraries: i need a library called 'libcupsys2-gnutls10' ... i have a lib called 'libcupsys2' wich says it provide 'libcupsys2-gnutls10'... dont i need to get it seperatly then? (this in a package manager) |
| 11:35.02 | eastwood | if it's dependent apt will get them for you |
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| 11:35.33 | Maulkin | RvGaTe: The /tar/gz is likely to be source, which will make it larger. |
| 11:35.36 | GEORGiQ | hey, how can I make a program load in startup of debian? |
| 11:36.04 | Newk | eastwood: well it is a lib that another lib depends on |
| 11:36.19 | RvGaTe | hmm.. pastebin down? |
| 11:36.22 | jelly-home | Newk: if your package wants a specific version of "libcupsys2-gnutls10", then a Provides: can't satisfy it. |
| 11:36.25 | GEORGiQ | hey, how can I make a program load in startup of debian? |
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| 11:36.55 | Newk | jelly-home: thank you! |
| 11:37.03 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: You need to be more specific. *When* in the start up? |
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| 11:37.27 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: Before you log in? After? What's the program? |
| 11:38.21 | _Brandon_ | anyone know how to use nforce sata on debian? |
| 11:38.33 | RvGaTe | i tried installing using the .deb, this is what happend: http://pastebin.ca/68308 |
| 11:38.35 | GEORGiQ | no |
| 11:38.37 | GEORGiQ | before log in |
| 11:38.40 | GEORGiQ | when the debian starts up |
| 11:38.44 | GEORGiQ | how it's loading apache |
| 11:38.45 | GEORGiQ | mysql |
| 11:38.50 | GEORGiQ | and this kind of applications |
| 11:38.57 | GEORGiQ | to load some commands |
| 11:38.57 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: What's the program? |
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| 11:39.07 | GEORGiQ | hlds_run counter-strike server game |
| 11:39.07 | GEORGiQ | and |
| 11:39.11 | GEORGiQ | verlihub |
| 11:39.11 | eastwood | lol, my dutch sux |
| 11:39.19 | GEORGiQ | and to make a connection between my other pc that's on windows |
| 11:39.19 | liable | !enter |
| 11:39.20 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 11:39.23 | GEORGiQ | a ifconfig command |
| 11:39.27 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: Put it in /etc/init.d with a script like /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 11:39.34 | GEORGiQ | i put |
| 11:39.37 | GEORGiQ | but it's not working :( |
| 11:39.41 | GEORGiQ | i put utils |
| 11:39.45 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: Then read 'man update-rc.d' |
| 11:39.48 | blondie | GEORGiQ: please read what dpkg said ;) |
| 11:40.01 | RvGaTe | !tell GEORGiQ about enter |
| 11:40.01 | GEORGiQ | is-net:/etc/init.d# cat utils |
| 11:40.01 | GEORGiQ | ifconfig eth0 up;ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 |
| 11:40.01 | GEORGiQ | cd /usr/hlds |
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| 11:40.05 | GEORGiQ | ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip 89.32.93.240 +sv_lan 1 -nomaster +maxplayers 18 +map de_dust2 & |
| 11:40.05 | GEORGiQ | verlihub & |
| 11:40.14 | Newk | jelly-home: when i cannot install a lib because of its providing one.. what then? |
| 11:40.19 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: read 'man update-rc.d' |
| 11:40.53 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: And put those commands in a script file. Base that file on /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 11:40.58 | linux2 | anyone know how to turn off display power management |
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| 11:41.24 | linux2 | my screen always goes black after about 5 minutes |
| 11:41.26 | GEORGiQ | runlevel? it's in text mode |
| 11:41.29 | GEORGiQ | what number is it? |
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| 11:41.43 | Readon | hello, where does the getaddrinfo implemented? |
| 11:41.48 | Maulkin | GEORGiQ: Use default |
| 11:42.09 | GEORGiQ | what's default? |
| 11:42.09 | GEORGiQ | 1? |
| 11:42.21 | Myon | Readon: libc |
| 11:42.23 | liable | read the man page, it tells you |
| 11:42.27 | liable | GEORGiQ: ^^ |
| 11:42.39 | liable | GEORGiQ: debian default runlevel is 2 |
| 11:42.56 | Maulkin | linux2: Popssibly in the bis. Also have a look at vbetool and apm |
| 11:43.09 | Readon | ok thanks |
| 11:43.11 | GEORGiQ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:43.14 | GEORGiQ | thank you guys :D |
| 11:43.16 | linux2 | Maulkin, ok thanks |
| 11:43.26 | Maulkin | linux2: And s/bis/bios/ :) |
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| 11:45.06 | cnwilly | Hi |
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| 11:45.39 | cnwilly | who was smart enough to mess with dpkg and get it working back |
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| 11:46.08 | cnwilly | i could remove dpkg but cant get it working back :( |
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| 11:47.33 | anibain_ | I've disabled dhcp in the router and now I can connect to the router but not to internet (ADSL). The problem is resolv.conf? |
| 11:47.58 | blondie | anibain_: can you connect by IP address? |
| 11:48.04 | cnwilly | i get an error with apt-get "E:Sub Process /usr/bin/dpkg reurned an error code (1) |
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| 11:48.32 | cnwilly | i put dpkg binaries back manually |
| 11:48.42 | anibain_ | blondie, ifconfig ra0 inet 192.168.1.34 up; route add default gw 192.168.1.1 |
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| 11:49.03 | blondie | ra0? what kind of adaptor is that? |
| 11:49.28 | anibain_ | that's Ralink wireless card, it works ok, that's not the problem |
| 11:49.42 | GeeK_ | re all |
| 11:50.20 | GeeK_ | i mount a apache serv with snort and mysql + acid but , when i log to localhost/acidlab firefox want to save it or open with editor |
| 11:51.22 | Jemt | Hi. I am having a lot of problems getting CPU Scaling to work. I have tryed out this guide : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=268091 - but I still dos'nt work. Powernowd outputs : http://powerzone.dk/output.txt - Can someone please help me ? |
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| 11:51.34 | Jemt | I = it |
| 11:51.40 | jelly-home | GeeK_: wrong mime type, missing handler in apache, or the directory is not set up as cgi-bin. |
| 11:52.30 | GeeK_ | can you tell me more about that? |
| 11:52.51 | Jemt | Btw - I AM running kernel 2.6.8.x, I have added the following line to /etc/fstab : 'sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0'. I don't have a module capped 'cpufreq' though |
| 11:52.53 | GeeK_ | or have you a link? |
| 11:52.59 | jelly-home | GeeK_: what extension are acidlab's files (or, what language is it written in)? |
| 11:53.14 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: acid_main.php |
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| 11:53.25 | blondie | anibain_: did you try IP addresses instead of hostnames? e.g. http://216.239.59.104/ for google |
| 11:53.25 | Jemt | Sorry, the line in fstab is : sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 |
| 11:53.33 | jelly-home | GeeK_: try accessing it directly |
| 11:53.48 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: how can i do thos ? |
| 11:54.01 | GeeK_ | you mean http://localhost/acid_main.php ? |
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| 11:54.08 | jelly-home | GeeK_: http://localhost/acidlab/acid_main.php, or whatever it's called. |
| 11:54.27 | RvGaTe | is there a list of http sources? |
| 11:54.37 | jelly-home | GeeK_: do you have a index.php in there? try that. |
| 11:54.41 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: returne me same thing |
| 11:55.02 | GeeK_ | no index.php on acidlab |
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| 11:56.25 | seabass | anyone running snort? |
| 11:56.27 | jelly-home | GeeK_: your php module is not set up correctly. do other php appse work? |
| 11:56.28 | seabass | with debian? |
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| 11:56.55 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: i can read php.net/docs.php |
| 11:57.01 | solemnwarning | How can I setup a machine so that a program is run at boot and it gets the console while running? |
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| 11:57.21 | solemnwarning | For some reason init wont give programs the console while they are running |
| 11:57.38 | jelly-home | GeeK_: I mean at your host. |
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| 11:58.54 | jelly-home | GeeK_: try this: echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > /var/www/test.php , and then try to access http://localhost/test.php |
| 11:59.23 | blondie | GeeK_: what browser are you using? |
| 11:59.29 | GeeK_ | firefox |
| 11:59.35 | blondie | GeeK_: empty the cacke |
| 11:59.36 | blondie | *cache |
| 12:00.15 | blondie | it caches the broken copy and you can't make it force a reload except by emptying the cache |
| 12:00.43 | raf256 | anyone here have a LAPTOP connected to CRT external monitor? |
| 12:00.49 | GeeK_ | same thing blondie |
| 12:00.59 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: i try your command and same thing too |
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| 12:01.18 | GeeK_ | blondie: when i clear cache and reload firefox , same too |
| 12:01.25 | blondie | oh |
| 12:01.30 | jelly-home | GeeK_: and when you save it, does it have that code inside or something else? |
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| 12:02.38 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: i have the code yes |
| 12:02.52 | blondie | GeeK_: have you tried restarting apache? |
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| 12:03.17 | GeeK_ | blondie: yes |
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| 12:03.34 | jelly-home | GeeK_: apache or apache2? Perhaps php is not enabled. |
| 12:03.48 | five0 | i have an .asoundrc for my user (everything functions well), but i'd also like to install the file globally |
| 12:03.51 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: this is the quesion :) |
| 12:04.01 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: i have apache & apache2 installed |
| 12:04.06 | GeeK_ | curious |
| 12:04.14 | jelly-home | GeeK_: which one is running? :-) |
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| 12:04.21 | GeeK_ | apache 1.3 |
| 12:04.35 | GeeK_ | cause when i do apache2 restart it return error |
| 12:04.40 | jelly-home | GeeK_: grep php4 /etc/apache/modules.conf |
| 12:04.56 | |Fo|Ns | hi, I'm using debian unstable and I'm having this problem with cups (http://lists.debian.org/debian-printing/2006/01/msg00049.html ) but reinstalling cupsys2 doesn't help |
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| 12:05.00 | |Fo|Ns | any ideas? |
| 12:05.01 | jelly-home | GeeK_: does it return something? |
| 12:05.02 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: nothing ! |
| 12:05.06 | jelly-home | ah. |
| 12:05.53 | RvGaTe | how do i force everyone to logout on ssh? just by killing all the sshd ? |
| 12:06.01 | jelly-home | GeeK_: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 12:06.10 | blondie | jelly-home keeps stealing my lines :( |
| 12:06.52 | jelly-home | blondie: I'll leave him at your mercy then, I'm going afk. ;-) |
| 12:07.56 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: cool it works , but acid_main return me php error php build incomplete |
| 12:08.28 | GeeK_ | jelly-home: please recompile php with the necessary library (--with-mysql) |
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| 12:09.07 | Jemt | Can someone please take a look at my CPU Scaling question at the Debian forum? I have been trying to get it to work for hours now (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=25590#25590) - thanks :) |
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| 12:10.07 | Readon | Myon, i havn't grep out getaddrinfo from libc sources |
| 12:10.12 | jelly-home | GeeK_: install php4-mysql too, and restart apache (and now I'm really off...) |
| 12:10.56 | bmesing | hello is there a way to build a module using the module-assistant without having the created package depend on a linux-image-X package? |
| 12:10.57 | GeeK_ | php4-mysql is already installed |
| 12:11.09 | RvGaTe | For some reason, im unable to auth to a proxy server :S |
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| 12:15.33 | wotdu | hi |
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| 12:16.54 | five0 | is /etc/asound.conf still the path for global asoundrc's? |
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| 12:18.46 | Jemt | Can anyone help me get CPU Scaling to work ? |
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| 12:19.01 | Jemt | My problem is described in details here : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7188 |
| 12:19.50 | MoDaX | Jemt: did you try speedstep-centrino ? |
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| 12:21.16 | Jemt | MoDaX, Yes, and as described in the post, it did not work :-/ |
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| 12:22.37 | MoDaX | Jemt: what error? |
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| 12:23.06 | danboid | There are a few GNOME apps currently missing in sid that would be of great benefit to Debian/GNOME- where do I request these additions or who do I tell? |
| 12:23.15 | seabass | debian sucks ass |
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| 12:23.30 | seabass | it totaly screws up snort |
| 12:23.34 | seabass | is anyone using snort? |
| 12:23.39 | seabass | i seriously need help with it |
| 12:23.48 | seabass | i have been using this for years |
| 12:23.56 | seabass | but on debian its totaly screwed up |
| 12:24.46 | seabass | and no one says anything ;( |
| 12:24.54 | MoDaX | seabass: what's wrong? |
| 12:24.55 | danboid | whats snort? |
| 12:24.57 | DerJamster | oink |
| 12:25.00 | seabass | well first of all |
| 12:25.05 | seabass | where the heck is the snort.conf ? |
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| 12:25.10 | seabass | next why arent there any rules at all |
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| 12:25.24 | DerJamster | /etc/snort/snort.conf |
| 12:25.28 | danboid | packet sniffer i'd guess? |
| 12:25.28 | seabass | nooooo |
| 12:25.33 | seabass | its a IDS |
| 12:25.39 | seabass | DerJamster, its not there |
| 12:25.46 | DerJamster | seabass: apt-ge install snort-common |
| 12:25.48 | DerJamster | t |
| 12:26.05 | seabass | snort-common is already the newest version. |
| 12:26.12 | GeeK_ | DerJamster: i have problem with acid if you can help :) |
| 12:26.17 | DerJamster | GeeK_: what's acid? |
| 12:26.22 | blondie | naughty drugs |
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| 12:26.26 | DerJamster | seabass: well, apt-file finds it there. |
| 12:26.27 | GeeK_ | front end to view log of snort |
| 12:26.38 | GeeK_ | acid + mysql + acid + apache |
| 12:26.46 | Jemt | MoDaX, Sorry, the phone just rang |
| 12:26.48 | seabass | not used apt-file |
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| 12:26.50 | seabass | help me please |
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| 12:27.14 | DerJamster | updatedb, locate snort.conf |
| 12:27.22 | Jemt | FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.8-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy |
| 12:27.23 | DerJamster | apt-get install --reinstall snort-common |
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| 12:27.26 | DerJamster | bla |
| 12:27.32 | Ronin | cool, shits going to hit the fan today at work |
| 12:27.54 | seabass | not there |
| 12:27.57 | seabass | did you find it? |
| 12:28.17 | seabass | it would be faster to compile this from source |
| 12:28.22 | MoDaX | Jemt: paste `lsmod` output to a paster |
| 12:28.30 | DerJamster | seabass: then do so. |
| 12:28.37 | seabass | then the system wont be "clean" |
| 12:28.38 | Jemt | MoDaX, Ok, sec :) |
| 12:28.47 | seabass | why do they change default stuff like this? |
| 12:28.48 | DerJamster | seabass: then make .dev packages. |
| 12:28.50 | seabass | so stupid |
| 12:28.58 | seabass | DerJamster, i do not have the time |
| 12:29.01 | seabass | i just need this up |
| 12:29.22 | seabass | i should have used another dist, but i was thinking "debian is stable" |
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| 12:29.30 | DerJamster | There, just apt-getted snort. And whee. snort.conf in /etc/snort. |
| 12:29.30 | seabass | stupid of me |
| 12:29.32 | Jemt | MoDaX: www.powerzone.dk/lsmod.txt |
| 12:29.37 | seabass | ? |
| 12:29.39 | danboid | requesting packages for debian- anybody? |
| 12:29.45 | seabass | DerJamster, ?? |
| 12:29.45 | MoDaX | seabass: did you read /usr/share/doc/snort(-common) ? |
| 12:29.49 | seabass | yes? |
| 12:29.49 | DerJamster | seabass: ?????? |
| 12:30.02 | seabass | ok |
| 12:30.05 | seabass | how do i totaly remove snort |
| 12:30.07 | dak | hrm |
| 12:30.09 | seabass | and all the packages it needs |
| 12:30.18 | DerJamster | apt-get remove --purge snort snort-common |
| 12:30.22 | seabass | purge yeah |
| 12:30.31 | DerJamster | libpcap is also part of it, but it shouldn't matter for removal |
| 12:30.40 | seabass | it did not remove it |
| 12:30.42 | Jemt | MoDaX: Thanks for taking the time to help me btw :) |
| 12:30.43 | seabass | only those two |
| 12:30.48 | kyncani | seabass: debfoster |
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| 12:30.57 | dak | man dpkg ? |
| 12:31.27 | MoDaX | Jemt: you already have speedstep_lib loaded. rmmod speedstep_lib && modprobe speedstep_centrino |
| 12:32.07 | DerJamster | seabass: oh, it also install snort-rules-default by the way. |
| 12:32.15 | seabass | DerJamster, i did |
| 12:32.21 | Jemt | MoDaX: Done - still gives me an error : FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.8-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy |
| 12:32.31 | DerJamster | installS |
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| 12:33.04 | MoDaX | Jemt: anything more informative in `dmesg`? |
| 12:33.08 | seabass | aah |
| 12:33.09 | Jemt | MoDaX: The updated lsmod.txt : www.powerzone.dk/lsmod.txt |
| 12:33.09 | seabass | now |
| 12:33.15 | Jemt | MoDaX: Let me check |
| 12:33.17 | Jemt | Sec |
| 12:34.13 | Jemt | MoDaX: Hm, I'm not really qualified to say - http://www.powerzone.dk/dmesg.txt |
| 12:34.35 | Jemt | MoDaX, Seems that CPUFreq have been doing some things |
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| 12:35.35 | Jemt | MoDaX: Do I need to reboot after altering /etc/fstab ? |
| 12:36.11 | Jemt | MoDaX: I added 'sysfs' to the file you see |
| 12:36.11 | MoDaX | Jemt: no |
| 12:36.14 | Jemt | Okay |
| 12:36.21 | MoDaX | Jemt: remove it |
| 12:36.32 | Jemt | MoDaX: Okay |
| 12:36.43 | MoDaX | Jemt: it should not be in fstab. it is mounted automatically |
| 12:36.45 | Jemt | Done |
| 12:36.48 | Jemt | Ah, okay |
| 12:37.02 | MoDaX | Jemt: if ls /sys is not empty, then it is mounted |
| 12:37.14 | Jemt | It is not :) |
| 12:37.44 | Jemt | MoDaX: It contains : block bus class devices firmware module power |
| 12:37.50 | MoDaX | Jemt: good |
| 12:38.10 | Jemt | My fan is really working hard to cool down the CPU :-S |
| 12:38.43 | MoDaX | Jemt: that is a bit buggy |
| 12:38.47 | MoDaX | that guide* |
| 12:38.55 | kayanaman | can you do command like: "cd /usr/dir1" with crontab? |
| 12:39.14 | Slaughter | 'd want to know where i can find pure-ftpd.cont 'cause it's no exit but it's work |
| 12:39.30 | MoDaX | Jemt: instread of "modprobe acpi cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_powersave", do modprobe acpi && modprobe cpufreq_userspace && modprobe cpufreq_powersave |
| 12:39.35 | Jemt | MoDaX: I know - I have only found one bug though |
| 12:39.43 | Jemt | Oh, ok - sec :) |
| 12:39.58 | Jemt | MoDaX: Do I need to remove the modules I've loaded earlier ? |
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| 12:40.04 | MoDaX | Jemt: no |
| 12:40.06 | Jemt | Ok |
| 12:40.40 | roob | Hi! Is there any way I can print *all* my environment variables to the screen? |
| 12:40.52 | MoDaX | Jemt: now try modprobe speedstep_centrino again |
| 12:40.59 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok :) |
| 12:41.18 | Jemt | MoDaX: FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.8-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy :-/ |
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| 12:41.38 | MoDaX | Jemt: what about modprobe speedstep_lim ? |
| 12:41.51 | Jemt | lim? |
| 12:41.54 | Jemt | Not lib ? |
| 12:41.57 | Jemt | lim dosn't work |
| 12:42.06 | MoDaX | lib yeah |
| 12:42.14 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, lib works :) |
| 12:42.14 | MoDaX | typo |
| 12:42.17 | Jemt | Yea :) |
| 12:42.22 | Oins | Hallo |
| 12:42.42 | MoDaX | Jemt: so it's correct one for your cpu |
| 12:42.56 | Jemt | Okay. The CPU is just not scaling :-/ |
| 12:43.05 | MoDaX | Jemt: now start powernowd |
| 12:43.14 | Jemt | O.O |
| 12:43.18 | MoDaX | it should work |
| 12:43.21 | Jemt | It .. didn't output errors :D |
| 12:43.37 | Jemt | GREAT! It's running 1.2 Ghz - but the CPU is 1.6 Ghz :D |
| 12:43.54 | Jemt | Thanks, MoDaX. |
| 12:44.00 | Jemt | Weird it dosn't scale down to 600 Mhz |
| 12:44.16 | MoDaX | Jemt: I think it will |
| 12:44.17 | kayanaman | can you do command like: "cd /usr/dir1" with crontab? |
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| 12:44.50 | MoDaX | Jemt: don't forget to add those lines to /etc/modules |
| 12:44.52 | Jemt | MoDaX: 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq' outputs '600000' |
| 12:45.05 | Jemt | MoDaX: What lines ? |
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| 12:45.39 | MoDaX | Jemt: those mentioned in the guide |
| 12:45.44 | sam` | hi |
| 12:45.53 | dak | hrm |
| 12:46.30 | MoDaX | Jemt: still at 1,2ghz? |
| 12:46.31 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ah, ok, yes. Btw - both 'speedstep_lib' and 'speedstep-lib' works (at least dosn't outputs errors) - I used 'speedstep-lib' earlier - could that be the fault ? |
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| 12:46.38 | Jemt | MoDaX: Yep |
| 12:46.39 | sam` | since the last xorg upgrade (xserver-xorg 7.0.22) i've been unable to use my mouse (the pointer just not respond, i must use the C-S-VerrNum trick) |
| 12:46.45 | sam` | any similar problems reported? |
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| 12:47.47 | MoDaX | Jemt: no. the error was that "modprobe acpi cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_powersave" was faulty |
| 12:48.15 | MoDaX | Jemt: modprobe can load only one module at a time. other arguments are considered to be module parameters |
| 12:48.26 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh! Okay |
| 12:48.41 | kayanaman | can you do command like: "cd /usr/dir1" with crontab? |
| 12:48.51 | Jemt | MoDaX: Weird - 'echo 600000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed' dosn't set the speed at 600 Mhz either |
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| 12:49.07 | sam` | kayanaman: yes, it's a full shell-executed command line |
| 12:49.19 | sam` | kayanaman: aka "cd /usr/dir1 && ./do-my-stuff" works |
| 12:49.27 | kayanaman | with ./ ? |
| 12:49.34 | MoDaX | Jemt: stop powernowd |
| 12:49.52 | MoDaX | and rmmod cpufreq_userspace |
| 12:49.58 | sam` | kayanaman: just because do-my-stuff is in the /usr/dir1 directory and must be launched from there |
| 12:50.01 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok |
| 12:50.17 | sam` | kayanaman: you could do /usr/dir1/do-my-stuff if your script or app is vpath-capable |
| 12:50.29 | sam` | kayanaman: and because i think /usr/dir1 is not in your path |
| 12:50.36 | kayanaman | i did something like this: "cd /usr/dir1 && mv file.txt /var/www/ && chmod +x /var/www/file.txt" |
| 12:50.39 | kayanaman | will that work? |
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| 12:51.12 | sam` | kayanaman: yes |
| 12:51.16 | kayanaman | ok |
| 12:51.19 | Jemt | MoDaX: I did : '/etc/init.d/powernowd stop' (output: Stopping powernowd: powernowd.) and 'rmmod cpufreq_userspace' (output: ERROR: Module cpufreq_userspace is in use) |
| 12:51.39 | wotdu | does debian etch default kernel have built-in alsa support? |
| 12:52.32 | MoDaX | Jemt: ok, then do echo "powersave" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 12:52.58 | Jemt | MoDaX: Done |
| 12:53.03 | MoDaX | Jemt: and? |
| 12:53.13 | Jemt | MoDaX: It is now running at 1 Ghz |
| 12:53.22 | Jemt | No, 1.2 Ghz. Sorry |
| 12:53.43 | Jemt | MoDaX: /proc/cpuinfo says 1197 Ghz, Gnome applet ways 1.06 Ghz |
| 12:53.46 | sam` | since the last xorg upgrade (xserver-xorg 7.0.22) i've been unable to use my mouse (the pointer just not respond, i must use the C-S-VerrNum trick). anyone heard of something similar ? |
| 12:53.53 | Jemt | 1197 Mhz even |
| 12:54.15 | MoDaX | Jemt: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq |
| 12:54.17 | MoDaX | ? |
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| 12:55.01 | Jemt | MoDaX: 1200000 |
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| 12:55.25 | Jemt | MoDaX: Could it be because we are using speedstep_lib and not _centrino ? |
| 12:55.35 | Jemt | MoDaX: Maybe _lib is not optimized for Pentium M |
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| 12:56.03 | nono31 | any problem with gdm after today's updatE? |
| 12:56.06 | MoDaX | Jemt: and is `cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor` "powersave" ? |
| 12:56.21 | nono31 | mine is not working:Failed to start message bus |
| 12:56.21 | MoDaX | Jemt: _centrino refuse to load on your system |
| 12:56.23 | Jemt | MoDaX: Yep, it is |
| 12:56.33 | Jemt | MoDaX: True, but maybe it could be solved - dunno |
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| 12:57.53 | MoDaX | Jemt: maybe rmmod cpufreq_userspace works now? |
| 12:58.23 | Jemt | MoDaX: Sec |
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| 12:58.39 | Jemt | MoDaX: Yes, it did O.O |
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| 12:59.11 | MoDaX | Jemt: and still at 1,2? |
| 12:59.13 | Jemt | MoDaX: Still running at 1.2 Ghz |
| 12:59.14 | Jemt | Yep |
| 12:59.26 | MoDaX | Jemt: modprobe cpufreq_ondemand |
| 12:59.31 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok |
| 12:59.53 | MoDaX | Jemt: echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
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| 12:59.56 | Jemt | MoDaX: FATAL: Module cpufreq_ondemand not found. |
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| 13:00.47 | MoDaX | oh, the kernel is too old then |
| 13:01.02 | Jemt | MoDaX: It is O.O ? I'm using 2.6.8 |
| 13:01.16 | Jemt | MoDaX: Can I install a newer kernel from repositories ? |
| 13:01.22 | MoDaX | I'm running 2.6.17 :) |
| 13:01.30 | soup_ | what is the ppp-oe daemon of choice here? |
| 13:01.33 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh, sweet :) |
| 13:01.35 | Jemt | MoDaX: Linux TP-X31 2.6.8-3-686 #1 Thu Feb 9 07:39:48 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 13:02.14 | MoDaX | Jemt: you can get newer kernel for sarge from backports.org |
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| 13:02.38 | Jemt | MoDaX: great! Thanks - checking out the site :) |
| 13:03.52 | MoDaX | Jemt: what about speedstep-ich or speedstep-smi. did you try those? |
| 13:04.27 | Jemt | MoDaX: Nope, actually not. Should I do that now ? |
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| 13:04.39 | Jemt | MoDaX: If, do I need to rmmod speedstep_lib first ? |
| 13:04.40 | xomhauvtt | hi all |
| 13:04.53 | MoDaX | Jemt: modprobe -r cpufreq_powersave speedstep_lib |
| 13:05.28 | MoDaX | (the same as rmmod, but allows to specify a few modules to rmmod in a single command) |
| 13:05.47 | xomhauvtt | i've many pictures (.png) how to create video file for view that pictures? |
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| 13:05.55 | MoDaX | Jemt: and then try modprobe'ing those two in turn |
| 13:06.15 | Jemt | MoDaX: What is the difference between rmmod and modprobe -r ? |
| 13:06.51 | Jemt | MoDaX: FATAL: Module cpufreq_powersave is in use. |
| 13:06.54 | sam` | anyone heard of some mouse problems with the latest xorg upgrade ? |
| 13:07.15 | MoDaX | Jemt: I explained in brackets |
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| 13:07.51 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh, sorry - wasn't highlighted, so I didn't notice it :) |
| 13:07.53 | MoDaX | Jemt: ok, then just try rmmod speedstep_lib |
| 13:08.07 | Jemt | MoDaX: Done - speedstep_ich nor speedstep_smi works |
| 13:08.14 | Jemt | dosn't work * |
| 13:08.24 | kayanaman | sam`: when using cron, do you have to quote it? |
| 13:08.27 | Jemt | MoDaX: None of them work |
| 13:08.29 | MoDaX | then _lib one is for you |
| 13:08.33 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok |
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| 13:08.43 | Jemt | MoDaX: Should I upgrade the kernel to get proper scaling ? |
| 13:08.56 | sam` | kayanaman: no |
| 13:08.58 | kayanaman | like: "cd /usr/dir1/" && "mv file.txt /var/www/" |
| 13:08.59 | kayanaman | ? |
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| 13:09.38 | MoDaX | Jemt: this should be an issue with the kernel. dmesg reveals that the kernel detects cpu states properly |
| 13:09.46 | MoDaX | Jemt: should not* |
| 13:09.52 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh, ok |
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| 13:10.04 | Jemt | MoDaX: Hm, the fan is still cooling.. :-/ |
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| 13:10.18 | amki | CLOSE ! |
| 13:11.02 | MoDaX | Jemt: try rebooting. maybe it would help (but I doubt) |
| 13:11.13 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, worth a shot - BRB :) |
| 13:12.33 | abrotman | the fan is still cooling .. is a problem? |
| 13:13.19 | MoDaX | abrotman: he want's to get cpu scaling working |
| 13:13.23 | MoDaX | wnats* |
| 13:13.28 | MoDaX | wants* :) |
| 13:13.33 | abrotman | eh .. why? |
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| 13:14.13 | row | how do I make perl .debs from cpan source again? did it once ages ago and forgot how. |
| 13:14.18 | MoDaX | abrotman: because the fan is cooling like mad (laptop) :) |
| 13:14.33 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 13:14.42 | MoDaX | abrotman: who don't want cpu scaling on a laptop? |
| 13:14.50 | Roey | hi! |
| 13:14.53 | MoDaX | I guess no one |
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| 13:15.06 | abrotman | MoDaX: i'd just settle for a half-clocked one .. who the hell needs 45.75GHz in a laptop |
| 13:15.07 | row | dh-make-perl ah |
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| 13:15.36 | Roey | Since ZFS is coming to Linux via FUSE as part of the Summer of Code efforts, would Debian include it considering the its license? |
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| 13:15.48 | Jemt | MoDaX: It works :D |
| 13:15.52 | MoDaX | abrotman: 45,75ghz? oh |
| 13:15.57 | MoDaX | jelly: at 600? |
| 13:15.58 | Jemt | MoDaX: It is scaling down to 600 Mhz now :D |
| 13:16.00 | MoDaX | ups |
| 13:16.04 | Jemt | MoDaX: Thank you SO much! :D |
| 13:16.08 | MoDaX | jelly: not for you |
| 13:16.15 | MoDaX | Jemt: np |
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| 13:16.26 | xored | are there any good, free GRAPHICAL FTP clients with bookmarks / Master Password / Queues / local dir etc ? |
| 13:16.36 | wamty | guys anyone have any tutorial for pppoe configuration or any software that does it |
| 13:16.40 | abrotman | Roey: is FUSE in debian? |
| 13:17.03 | Roey | abrotman: dunno? |
| 13:17.03 | xored | abrotman: i think so |
| 13:17.05 | Roey | not that I think so |
| 13:17.12 | devilishcyborg | abotman: it's there in every 2.6 kernel |
| 13:17.15 | jelly | abrotman: fuse, yes |
| 13:17.16 | wamty | anyone? |
| 13:17.21 | jelly | devilishcyborg: only in 2.6.15+ |
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| 13:17.44 | jelly | there's fuse-source for the rest |
| 13:17.50 | Jemt | MoDaX: This is just a test setup - hopefully I can get it to work later, when I make a clean reinstall. But what I basically should remember is to use 'modprobe <mod> && modprobe <mod2> .. etc', right ? |
| 13:18.10 | Jemt | MoDaX: And _lib ofcause |
| 13:18.21 | wamty | guys anyone have any tutorial for pppoe configuration or any software that does it |
| 13:18.40 | MoDaX | Jemt: write those modules to /etc/modules (one per line), so they will get loaded automatically on startup |
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| 13:19.25 | xored | wamty: there are plenty of them in google, just try |
| 13:20.01 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok - I have added : acpi cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_powersave speedstep-lib. I'm not sure whether to keep the userspacce module or not - didn't we rmmod that one ? |
| 13:20.11 | MoDaX | !info pppoeconf |
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| 13:20.17 | dpkg | pppoeconf: (configures PPPoE/ADSL connections), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10 (sid), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 13:20.17 | wamty | I'm root, and when I add new user, he can read all other dir in /home dir and other dir's on system |
| 13:20.58 | MoDaX | wamty: thus use pppoeconf |
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| 13:21.21 | wotdu | wamty: that's a problem of permissions |
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| 13:22.07 | abrotman | jelly: oh yeah .. it is .. |
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| 13:22.23 | abrotman | devilishcyborg: eh .. debian is allowed to remove it from the kernel if it wants .. |
| 13:22.32 | abrotman | devilishcyborg: and last i knew .. FUSE still wasn't part of the kernel |
| 13:22.58 | devilishcyborg | devilishcyborg: jelly is right. |
| 13:23.10 | MoDaX | wamty: set 700 permissions for other home directories, so they could be acceess only by the owner. you don't want to do this for your system though |
| 13:23.29 | MoDaX | accessed* |
| 13:23.29 | devilishcyborg | abrotman: jelly is right :P |
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| 13:23.46 | wotdu | MoDaX: why doesn't he want that for his system? : ) |
| 13:23.47 | killpanda | Hi ! |
| 13:23.55 | abrotman | devilishcyborg: i know .. i forgot they added .. mostly because i don't use FUSE filesystems |
| 13:23.58 | devilishcyborg | * devilishcyborg put's on his glasses |
| 13:24.02 | killpanda | I got a little problem with fbset and an old laptop |
| 13:24.09 | MoDaX | wotdu: just imagine chmod 700 /usr "_ |
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| 13:24.33 | Dewi | I have PHP5 installed... is there some way to override and run PHP4 for some directories / vhosts? |
| 13:24.34 | wotdu | oh y :P |
| 13:24.37 | devilishcyborg | abrotman: i tried it for gmailfs but never got it working |
| 13:24.43 | wotdu | though you were talking about /home/* |
| 13:24.44 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
| 13:24.51 | abrotman | Dewi: afaik .. no .. ask #php |
| 13:24.52 | MoDaX | Jemt: _userspace is needed for powernowd to work |
| 13:25.06 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, thanks again :) |
| 13:25.24 | killpanda | when I configure the screen to 800*600, all the picture is shifted down |
| 13:25.32 | MoDaX | Jemt: _powersave will keep freq at 600 mhz no matter of the cpu load |
| 13:25.56 | MoDaX | Jemt: I guess you don't want that |
| 13:26.09 | Jemt | MoDaX: No :) |
| 13:26.19 | Jemt | MoDaX: But.. it dosn't |
| 13:26.28 | Jemt | MoDaX: It is listed in /etc/modules, but it scales fine |
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| 13:27.27 | Jemt | MoDaX: But scaling_governor contains "userspace" now |
| 13:27.33 | MoDaX | Jemt: so your only chose with 2.6.8 is cpu scaling daemon. in newer kernels there is _ondemand govenor which adjust freq based on cpu load, so you arguably don't need userspace daemon |
| 13:27.33 | Jemt | MoDaX: Maybe that is why |
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| 13:27.50 | andj | hi |
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| 13:27.56 | MoDaX | Jemt: powernowd manages your cpu frequenty |
| 13:27.57 | Maulkin | hmm... |
| 13:28.09 | five0 | hi guys, is there an rc.local (or similar) that will allow me to run commands (such as mount) at boot? |
| 13:28.10 | Jemt | MoDaX: Okay. That's just fine :) |
| 13:28.22 | five0 | or should i be looking for a particular runlevel dir to put that script in? |
| 13:28.27 | Jemt | MoDaX: But just to make sure ; I should not modify the module list, right? |
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| 13:28.42 | Jemt | MoDaX: The one I showed you before |
| 13:29.09 | Maulkin | five0: Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ ethen install it with update-rc.d |
| 13:29.19 | MoDaX | Jemt: remove "cpufreq_powersave" if you don't intend to use it |
| 13:29.28 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, good - I'll try that |
| 13:29.29 | noshadow | five0: if you want to mount, is there a reason against simply puttin it into /etc/fstab? |
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| 13:30.10 | Maulkin | !run at startup is <reply>Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d |
| 13:30.11 | dpkg | okay, Maulkin |
| 13:30.17 | Jemt | BRB |
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| 13:30.54 | five0 | noshadow: udev rules are kicking in too late, and so the /dev/* won't exist |
| 13:31.04 | five0 | noshadow: i'm enquiring about that issue elsewhere ;) |
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| 13:31.26 | five0 | noshadow: these are usb storage devices |
| 13:31.38 | five0 | Maulkin: thanks mate |
| 13:31.39 | nbt | hi, i kde if there're 20 virtual desk why i can't place different icons in each ? |
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| 13:32.12 | nbt | ? |
| 13:32.18 | noshadow | five0: if udev makes such troubles, why not using udev against it? After all it might still not be there at the end of boot. Doesn't udev have some way to tell him what to do after it created the device? |
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| 13:33.33 | five0 | noshadow: it's there at the end of boot |
| 13:33.53 | five0 | noshadow: as i can mount those devices once i'm logged on |
| 13:35.03 | kayanaman | how do you update your time again with ntpdate |
| 13:35.12 | Maulkin | kayanaman: ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
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| 13:36.33 | kayanaman | thanks |
| 13:36.52 | abrotman | !run at startup is also read /etc/init.d/README |
| 13:36.53 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 13:37.15 | kayanaman | !startup |
| 13:37.16 | dpkg | If you want your Debian system to run a script at startup, say 'your_script' do the following: put your script in /etc/init.d/your_script; then create the following symbolic link: ln -s ../init.d/your_script /etc/rc?.d/SXXyour_script, where ? is the desired runlevel, S is the letter S and XX is a number between 00 and 99. The number indicates the order in which scripts get executed. |
| 13:38.09 | glut | there is native tool for doing this it's called update-rc.d |
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| 13:39.32 | glut | I'd say doing this dpkg's way is not even a Debian Way |
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| 13:40.22 | noshadow | glut: its not Debian's easy way. But Debian's way definitly allows making things by hand. |
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| 13:40.51 | jrosental | Hello i have a problem, i just compiled a kernel using the "Debian Way", when i restarted and it was to boot, it shows me this error: VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(3,1). Please append a correct "root=" boot option.. i have searched in google by this error, and it says that ensure that you have not added your fs support as a module (which i didnt), any ideas? |
| 13:41.01 | Mazingaro | is anyone using lyx? |
| 13:41.15 | pipeline | jrosental: Your initrd is built wrong :\ |
| 13:41.16 | glut | noshadow: yea, so why running Debian where one could run LFS and do everythong by hand ;) |
| 13:41.27 | stew | jrosental: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 13:41.31 | jrosental | pipeline: i-m not using initrd |
| 13:41.36 | pipeline | jrosental: Then you should be.e |
| 13:41.47 | jrosental | pipeline uh? |
| 13:41.49 | stew | jrosental: you forgot drivers for etiher you filesystem (ext3?) or your hard disk controller |
| 13:42.12 | stew | jrosental: those drivers need to be compiled into your kernel directly (* not M) or you need to use an initrd |
| 13:42.23 | devilishcyborg | Mazingaro: wht abt lyx? |
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| 13:42.44 | jrosental | stew: i repeat, i compiled my filesystem drivers into my kernel (*) and not as modules.. |
| 13:43.01 | noshadow | jrosental: also PCI and IDE drivers? |
| 13:43.11 | jrosental | noshadow yes |
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| 13:43.29 | Mazingaro | devilishcyborg: I'm trying to insert in my doc a float figure with text wrap around it, the problem is that figure caption wil be placed not under the figure but in the middle of the page :( |
| 13:43.33 | Jemt | MoDaX: Works like a charme now :) Any chance I can get you to help me with power management? Suspend does not seem to be available. Also, the monitor on my laptop is turned on but without any image when a TFT monitor is plugged in. It should be turned off |
| 13:43.44 | noshadow | jrosental: and your root device should also be hda1? |
| 13:44.16 | kayanaman | ok, if i do: "1 * * * * /bin/test" as a crontab, will this run /bin/test every minute or every hour ? |
| 13:44.27 | RvGaTe | http://pastebin.ca/68356 <- i have no idea how to join my domain, the username/password seems to be right, but it gives me invalid_computer_name :S anyone an idea how to do fix this? |
| 13:44.49 | jrosental | noshadow: yes, in fact, i revised my /boot/grub/menu.lst and the kernel with which i installed debian first time (2.6.8) has the same root device.. |
| 13:45.01 | Maulkin | RvGaTe: Try #samba |
| 13:45.47 | noshadow | jrosental: does the kernel correctly detect the IDE drive? |
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| 13:46.20 | jrosental | noshadow: how do i know that? |
| 13:46.30 | kayanaman | ok, if i do: "1 * * * * /bin/test" as a crontab, will this run /bin/test every minute or every hour ? |
| 13:46.41 | stew | jrosental: if you have your filesystem drivers compiled in, then you either forgot your ide drivers or your bootloader is configured incorrectly |
| 13:46.41 | sam` | anybody heard of mouse problems with the latest xorg 7.0.22 |
| 13:46.44 | noshadow | jrosental: its normaly is somewhere before in all the other junk a kernel outputs when starting |
| 13:47.12 | MoDaX | Jemt: suspend/resume is a very tricky part. it's one of areas in linux, which is not mature. I've spent numerous hours trying to get it running on my laptop and finally succedded. what's kernel 2.6.17 is a big improvement in this area |
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| 13:47.17 | jrosental | noshadow mmm i didnt look at that :$ |
| 13:47.37 | MoDaX | s/what's// |
| 13:47.38 | five0 | Maulkin: should i also create a unmount script? |
| 13:47.52 | five0 | Maulkin: or is there an unmount all script already on my deb system? |
| 13:48.03 | noshadow | jrosental: somewhere there it should say it found an ide disk. Otherwise you have the wrong ide drivers compiled in. |
| 13:48.13 | MoDaX | Jemt: are using opensource video drivers? |
| 13:48.24 | zec | A simple question: why don't I get the contents of /etc/X11/xkb/symbols back when I do a apt-get install xkeyboard-config? |
| 13:48.25 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh, ok. Maybe I should look into that some other day |
| 13:48.26 | epictetus | kayanaman: It will run it in the first minute of every hour i think |
| 13:48.36 | Jemt | MoDaX: Yes, the 'ati' driver |
| 13:48.43 | Maulkin | five0: I think there's already one. |
| 13:48.50 | five0 | Maulkin: alright |
| 13:48.52 | kayanaman | epictetus: so it'll run it every minute? |
| 13:49.02 | MoDaX | Jemt: and what happends when you suspend? |
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| 13:49.10 | pipeline | jrosental: Seriously: Just use an initrd. It'll make life easier. Heck, don't build a kernel at all if you can avoid it. |
| 13:49.38 | Jemt | MoDaX: Nothing - I don't have that option in Gnome. And closing the lid does nothing either |
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| 13:49.48 | jrosental | noshadow ok i booted right now using the old kernel image, i am running make menuconfig right now to check my config to see if there is something wrong, could you tell me what can i check the IDE & PCI support stuff is in kernel config? |
| 13:49.55 | superlinux | hi all |
| 13:49.59 | jrosental | pipeline i see using an initrd more complicated, so i preffer not to.. |
| 13:50.09 | MoDaX | Jemt: ah, so you don't know if it's working at all :) |
| 13:50.20 | Jemt | MoDaX: Nope :) |
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| 13:50.56 | noshadow | jrosental: you need the generic IDE stuff and the driver for your special IDE chipset. |
| 13:51.42 | noshadow | jrosental: best take a look with lspci what it is and then look which ide driver you need. Or take a look which are loaded with lsmod and make all of them compiled in. |
| 13:51.47 | MoDaX | Jemt: do echo "mem" > /sys/power/state as root for suspend to ram or echo "disk" > /sys/power/state for suspend to disk. be ready for kernel oops or hangs |
| 13:52.04 | superlinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.05 | jrosental | noshadow: generic IDE chipset support is marked as * in my config |
| 13:52.37 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, thanks. See you in a few minutes :) |
| 13:52.43 | noshadow | jrosental: then you still need to make sure to also have the driver for your hardware. |
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| 13:53.50 | wxzinfo | i'm install fluxbox windowmanager....!I want to put a panel bar(Example: fbpanel) in bottom screen....any help;;;; |
| 13:54.09 | wxzinfo | i'm brazilian |
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| 13:54.28 | wxzinfo | my english is lown |
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| 13:54.51 | itchi | wxzinfo: Look to the file '.fluxbox/startup' ?? |
| 13:55.07 | itchi | wxzinfo: In you're home dir |
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| 13:56.00 | jrosental | noshadow: i don't understand, lspci -v tells me that my IDE controller is a VIA and its chipset is VT82C586A... and in my config, i marked as * VIA82C5XXX chipset support under IDE chipset support |
| 13:56.11 | itchi | wxzinfo: In that file i have an line example: 'babytrans &' before the 'exec /usr/bin/fluxbox' |
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| 13:56.32 | mattybats | hello |
| 13:57.02 | wxzinfo | itchi |
| 13:57.30 | noshadow | jrosental: that looks good. I'd suggest to boot the new kernel again and look if it detects the ide drive. with that information one knows in which half of all the unlikely possibilites one has to search. |
| 13:57.33 | itchi | wxzinfo: Yes?? |
| 13:57.43 | wxzinfo | do you use fluxbox?.....do you have fluxboxs screenshot with panel in bottom page? |
| 13:57.54 | eleftherios | I have installed a USB HP laserjet 1320 using printcong. From Gnome CUPS center I printed a test page and it worked fine. I am trying to print a web page from firefox and it silently fails, the print job doesn't even get listed. Any ideas/pointers please? |
| 13:57.59 | eleftherios | I am on Debian Sarge |
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| 13:58.11 | itchi | wxzinfo: It's now 2 days i have Gnome running :-) |
| 13:58.19 | Jemt | MoDaX: That didn't go too well |
| 13:58.21 | jrosental | noshadow: ok, do you give me a time while a try that? |
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| 13:58.51 | MoDaX | Jemt: kernel crashed? |
| 13:59.08 | Jemt | MoDaX: Tryed "mem" - first time it resumed automatically, next time the machine froze |
| 13:59.08 | noshadow | jrosental: I'll have to leave soon. But with that information other people might be able to help you better. |
| 13:59.10 | Jemt | Yep |
| 13:59.11 | wxzinfo | itchi: i have a computer-> 512mb memory, 2.6 Ghz processor..i install kde 3.4, and very low |
| 13:59.27 | itchi | wxzinfo: /Not/ nomral! |
| 13:59.28 | wxzinfo | so install fluxbox.... |
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| 13:59.41 | jrosental | noshadow: :(.. well, i'm going fast!, i'll be right back |
| 13:59.49 | Jemt | MoDaX: Well, I can lieve without suspend. But it is irritating that my laptop monitor is on |
| 13:59.53 | itchi | wxzinfo: No there is an need to find that trouble. Tell me. Did you make an swap partition? |
| 13:59.56 | Jemt | live |
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| 14:00.23 | wxzinfo | itchi: swap partition = 128mb |
| 14:00.36 | wxzinfo | but my system not use swap partition.... |
| 14:00.44 | itchi | wxzinfo: It's to less :-( |
| 14:00.50 | Jemt | MoDaX: Usually I can hit Fn + F7 to switch between monitors - but not in X |
| 14:01.03 | Jemt | MoDaX: Works fine in a console though |
| 14:01.04 | wxzinfo | my memory use is ->200 at 400mb of use |
| 14:01.07 | itchi | wxzinfo: free -m |
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| 14:01.42 | wxzinfo | 300free in use and 200mb free |
| 14:01.49 | wxzinfo | 300mb in use and 200mb free |
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| 14:02.23 | wxzinfo | what windowmanager is memory low, kde or gnome |
| 14:02.43 | kyncani | wxzinfo: xfce4, icewm, ... |
| 14:02.45 | mattybats | i'm tryin to do an install of sarge on an asus t2-p BB system and it keeps hanging on trying to mount the cd. it also gives me an error in expert mode that it can't load some modules, i810-tco, 8139too, etc.... |
| 14:02.47 | noshadow | wxzinfo: those are both worlds away from memory low |
| 14:02.53 | nbt | there're 20 vdesks but can't set diff icons on each why ? |
| 14:03.04 | MoDaX | Jemt: man radeon |
| 14:03.07 | itchi | done |
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| 14:03.12 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok :) |
| 14:03.28 | kayanaman | how do you cron something every minute? |
| 14:03.31 | kayanaman | is there any way? |
| 14:03.46 | kyncani | kayanaman: use cron :D |
| 14:03.47 | wxzinfo | i like kde and gnome....but my computer not help |
| 14:03.52 | itchi | wxzinfo: No, normally the swap need to be are 2 x of the quantity of you RAM (theoretically) |
| 14:03.54 | kayanaman | ? |
| 14:04.13 | kayanaman | im talkin about the time and shit, like 1 * * * * all that stuff |
| 14:04.14 | itchi | kayanaman: If you want to take it easy 'kcron' ?? |
| 14:04.16 | MoDaX | Jemt: you might be interested in BIOSHostKeys option. but unfortunately, X is bad at run-time monitor switching too. |
| 14:04.23 | kayanaman | hmmm |
| 14:04.37 | wxzinfo | just...but at system not use swap partition |
| 14:04.52 | itchi | wxzinfo: When you run kde or Gnome. How many memery leave there after loading the desktop? |
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| 14:05.09 | mdupont | anyone know about the debian specifics of zope here? |
| 14:05.10 | MoDaX | Jemt: BIOSHotKeys that is |
| 14:05.37 | Jemt | MoDaX: Hm :-/ My TFT monitor runs at 1280x1024 while my laptop screen can only work in 1024x768 - both at 60Hz though. But that will probably make it more difficult to get it to work |
| 14:05.43 | wxzinfo | memory use: ~250mb / / memory free ~250mb |
| 14:05.45 | Jemt | MoDaX: I'll try downloading it |
| 14:06.16 | itchi | wxzinfo: KDE runs very very fine on an computer here 1Ghz with 256 MB ram and an uptime average of 30 days :-/ |
| 14:06.17 | wxzinfo | gnome is very fast of that kde? |
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| 14:06.34 | Jemt | MoDaX: Not available through repositories (?) |
| 14:06.36 | itchi | wxzinfo: It need a bit more memory |
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| 14:06.52 | itchi | wxzinfo: Sorry _lesser_ |
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| 14:07.07 | itchi | wxzinfo: Kde take a bit more |
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| 14:07.51 | MoDaX | Jemt: what do you want to download? |
| 14:07.56 | Jemt | BIOSHotKeys |
| 14:08.02 | Jemt | MoDaX: BIOSHotKeys |
| 14:08.19 | itchi | wxzinfo: Try to load kde and look with 'free -m' or so. That swap of 128MB give the troubles i think. To be are safe make one of 512 MB |
| 14:08.20 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh, it's an option, not a program? |
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| 14:08.27 | MoDaX | Jemt: it's an option of radeon driver :) |
| 14:08.28 | Mazingaro | please is there a #lyx channel?? |
| 14:08.32 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh! :) |
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| 14:09.02 | jelly | Mazingaro: try it |
| 14:09.09 | Mazingaro | jelly: unavailable |
| 14:09.18 | jelly | Mazingaro: works for me! |
| 14:09.43 | Jemt | MoDaX: The MAN page dosn't cover those BIOSHotKeys |
| 14:09.47 | jelly | Mazingaro: sorry, I'm stupid |
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| 14:10.11 | Mazingaro | jelly: ? |
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| 14:10.15 | MoDaX | Jemt: X is too old then :) i'm running xorg 7.0 |
| 14:10.20 | itchi | Mazingaro: There are others networks that Freenode. Been possible that on another one ... The differents networks could have some same channels, but it are not linken and 2 differents |
| 14:10.25 | Jemt | MoDaX: Oh :p |
| 14:10.31 | MoDaX | Jemt: that's I'm debian unstable |
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| 14:10.35 | MatBoy | is there a way to ony restart your keyboeard settings / |
| 14:10.38 | MoDaX | I'm running |
| 14:10.41 | MoDaX | * |
| 14:10.45 | Mazingaro | itchi: ah ok, a netsplit |
| 14:10.48 | MatBoy | my shft does not work for the moment |
| 14:11.12 | Jemt | MoDaX: Exactly how stable/unstable are packages in the unstable repos ? |
| 14:11.17 | wxzinfo | itchi....then i have change my swap patition for 512mb....for very fine |
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| 14:11.34 | labanux | can debian sarge install from Ubuntu repesitories? |
| 14:11.46 | Jemt | MoDaX: I switched to Debian from Ubuntu because the new release was really unstable - so I don't want that to happen again :) |
| 14:11.46 | itchi | wxzinfo: Yes, do it. Probably it would solve you're trouble. |
| 14:11.52 | Ronin | labanux: only if you want tot totally screw up your system |
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| 14:12.11 | itchi | wxzinfo: That swap are to less :-/ |
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| 14:12.44 | stew | labanux: it could, but its a horrible idea |
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| 14:12.53 | wxzinfo | itchi: for begin system X (with kde)= (splash screen->2 minutes) |
| 14:13.05 | jrosental | if i'm not using an initrd, do i need to mark as * the option "RAM Disk support" in the kernel config? |
| 14:13.14 | MoDaX | Jemt: stable enough for me. though causes problems from time to time. testing might be better. stability is tradeoff you have to pay for never software |
| 14:13.15 | labanux | stew:hmmm... thanx for the advice |
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| 14:13.20 | MoDaX | newer* |
| 14:13.22 | stew | labanux: what are you wanting to install from ubuntu? its likely available some better way |
| 14:13.40 | wxzinfo | i go to try |
| 14:13.41 | stew | jrosental: no |
| 14:13.49 | nbt | there're 20 vdesks but can't set diff icons on each why ? |
| 14:13.55 | stew | jrosental: do you have a good reason for compiling in the first place? |
| 14:14.05 | wintix | how do i get debian to load an module on startup? |
| 14:14.11 | Jemt | MoDaX: True. But have you expirenced crashes with you current kernel og x.org ? |
| 14:14.29 | jrosental | wintix: add a line with the name of that module to /etc/modules |
| 14:14.29 | stew | wintix: list it in /etc/modules |
| 14:14.29 | labanux | stew: I can't get the newer packages in Debian sarge.. (I don't have any internet connection at home, but i have the Ubuntu CD) |
| 14:14.30 | jrosental | wintix: or use modconf |
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| 14:14.49 | MoDaX | Jemt: no so far |
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| 14:14.50 | wintix | thanks, jrosental, stew. |
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| 14:15.10 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, great - I'll give those two a try :) |
| 14:15.24 | MoDaX | Jemt: go with testing first |
| 14:15.42 | Ronin | labanux: dl the dvd an option then go home? |
| 14:15.57 | MoDaX | Jemt: beware there is no easy way do downgrade. you will have to reinstall sarge |
| 14:16.12 | |dennis| | question: would http://cdimage.debian.org be cutting me off if I have been trying to downlaod the 3 dvd isos for the past 2 - 2 and half days? because for some reason getright will not continue my two 92% complete etch iso downloads!!! |
| 14:16.21 | Jemt | MoDaX: That's okay with me :) |
| 14:16.32 | itchi | Yes, yes, yes, a boy on #debian-nl !!! I give support in my native language. The first time !!! :-) |
| 14:16.35 | Jemt | MoDaX: I usually create a shell script that takes care of it for me :) |
| 14:16.39 | Jemt | MoDaX: Where can I find official repositories? |
| 14:16.49 | jrosental | stew: i checked out what noshadow told me, and before the kernel panic of VFS, it says me something like this: hda: unkown partition table.. WTF!? |
| 14:16.50 | stew | labanux: its not a good idea to mix packages from stable with packages not from stable, packages need to be recompiled when library versions change. you should stick with one distro or another. if you need newer packages on sarge, the recommended way is with backports (/msg dpkg backports) but if you don't have an internet connection thats not really an option for you |
| 14:16.50 | labanux | yeah.. |
| 14:16.55 | MoDaX | Jemt: on every debian mirror |
| 14:17.10 | azeem | is there a util which reverses the order of lines in stdin? Sort of like sort -r, but don't sort first... |
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| 14:17.32 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ok, great - thanks |
| 14:17.52 | labanux | stew: i'm trying to download the Etch DVD.., but it has no mirror in Indonesia (place where i stay) |
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| 14:18.18 | CovInHer | azeem: tac |
| 14:18.27 | azeem | ta |
| 14:18.34 | jrosental | stew: any ideas? |
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| 14:20.16 | stew | jrosental: did you include MSDOS partition support? |
| 14:20.43 | jrosental | stew: no, because i don't have msdos or windows in this machine, only debian |
| 14:20.54 | stew | jrosental: what kind of partition table do you use? |
| 14:20.54 | jelly | jrosental: bad move |
| 14:21.12 | killown | how I can switch Xserver in xorg? |
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| 14:21.41 | jrosental | stew: what do you mean by "kind of partition table"? all my partitions are with ext3 except the swap one.. |
| 14:21.42 | jrosental | jelly: uh? why? |
| 14:21.42 | stew | jrosental: even the debian kernels which are very modular include all the partition types directly in the kernel |
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| 14:21.55 | MoDaX | killwon: ctrl+alt+f{7,8,9} ? |
| 14:22.18 | stew | jrosental: that's the filesystem, not the partition table. you should include the partition table support directly in your kernel or it won't even know how to find your ext3 filesystem |
| 14:22.26 | Newk | what ethernet pcmcia is best in debian? |
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| 14:23.04 | plasmoduck | hey I just put a 20gig hdd in my pc, how do I get it going? |
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| 14:23.34 | plasmoduck | like find out what dev it is to mount it ect |
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| 14:24.10 | Jemt | MoDaX: What happens if I want to install let's say xmms from Main repos, but it also exists in Unstable or Testing under the same name? |
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| 14:24.19 | dabreegster | plasmoduck: skim dmesg to see if it saw it. IDE drive? |
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| 14:24.36 | plasmoduck | ? |
| 14:24.45 | stew | plasmoduck: can you be more specific? does it have partitions/data on it you want to use? |
| 14:24.45 | jrosental | stew: ok look, into the filesystem section in the kernel config, there is a sub section called "Partition Type", inside it, there are thing like "Atari partition table support, PC BIOS partition support), etc.. and none of them are selected because i don-t need it? |
| 14:24.46 | dabreegster | plasmoduck: Is it an IDE drive? |
| 14:24.57 | plasmoduck | yep |
| 14:25.17 | plasmoduck | I want to format / fdisk it ect into an ext fs |
| 14:25.31 | plasmoduck | to use for data storage in my debian server |
| 14:25.39 | null | Hi. I've done some upgrades this morning and now i'm having trouble to start my X session; actually gdm launches very well with the login prompt, but once i login session terminates with that "10 second error message". I've also tried to start X with "startx", and here's the only error line i could find at the first place: "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy". And idea(s) why/what this might be? Thank you. |
| 14:25.44 | Aim_Here | Hmm, won't cfdisk happily find your drive if it's working? |
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| 14:26.25 | v3ctor_ | msg NickServ ghost v3ctor l1th1um |
| 14:26.29 | plasmoduck | no |
| 14:26.31 | v3ctor_ | doh |
| 14:26.37 | plasmoduck | maybe its not working |
| 14:26.37 | dabreegster | null: Check the permissions on that file |
| 14:26.56 | MoDaX | Jemt: once you correct your sources.list to point to testing, and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, *all installed packages* will be upgraded to their counterparts in testing. |
| 14:27.05 | null | dabreegster, actually there's no "SecurityPolicy" file nowhere on my system :S |
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| 14:27.36 | Jemt | MoDaX: :-S |
| 14:27.38 | null | dabreegster, i've tried to "locate" it, but no results... |
| 14:27.40 | MoDaX | Jemt: don't mix stable and testing/unstable. they are too different. |
| 14:27.45 | Jemt | MoDaX: Okay |
| 14:27.50 | dabreegster | null: Could be the problem. Use apt-file to find which package it's in |
| 14:27.58 | Jemt | MoDaX: Testing is better than Unstable ? |
| 14:28.03 | dabreegster | null: On my testing box, it's in xserver-common |
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| 14:28.45 | nurone | Jemt, it is more stable but the most stable of course is 'stable'. |
| 14:28.45 | MoDaX | Jemt: some newer packages for stable can be found in backports.org and that's it |
| 14:28.45 | null | dabreegster, okay; but i should boot to my Debian system to do it; any other suggestion(s) before i go? |
| 14:29.01 | Jemt | MoDaX: Is both x.org and the kernel you are using in backports ? |
| 14:29.09 | dabreegster | null: Can't think of any. apt-get install xserver-common (assuming your package files are up-to-date) and reboot X |
| 14:29.09 | MoDaX | Jemt: testing has less bugs |
| 14:29.11 | Jemt | nurone: Ok, thanks :) |
| 14:29.14 | Jemt | MoDaX: I see |
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| 14:31.29 | nurone | Jemt, x.org and the kernel, u get directly fr debian repo. |
| 14:31.29 | null | dabreegster, i mean it's hard to me to not have that file installed; but i'll give it a try; thank you, i'll be back! |
| 14:31.29 | nurone | . |
| 14:31.30 | MoDaX | Jemt: I don't need backports because I'm not running stable. backports are packages from testing/unstable recompiled for stable |
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| 14:31.44 | Jemt | MoDaX: Okay :) |
| 14:31.44 | nurone | what the shit is this? |
| 14:31.44 | vopicak | :) |
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| 14:31.45 | Jemt | MoDaX: So backports are more or less the last step before a given package is added to Stable ? |
| 14:31.45 | MoDaX | nurone: netsplit |
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| 14:31.46 | nurone | MoDaX, and what is netsplit? |
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| 14:32.02 | MoDaX | Jemt: no. backports will never go to official stable. whole testing will become stable, when it meets release criterias |
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| 14:32.42 | Jemt | MoDaX: Hm, okay. |
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| 14:33.04 | jelly | jrosental: I don't see if anyone answered, but you want to say Y to "PC BIOS partition support" |
| 14:33.10 | MoDaX | !netsplit |
| 14:33.11 | dpkg | i heard netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
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| 14:33.59 | mdupont | hi! how can i sort the packages installed by size |
| 14:34.04 | mdupont | i want to reduce the footprint |
| 14:34.29 | five0 | is there a tool to search for perl-mod-packages that contain a particular module? |
| 14:34.45 | stew | i dunno that a netsplit is always deliberate |
| 14:34.59 | MoDaX | five0: packages.debian.org the 2nd search |
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| 14:35.18 | stew | five0: if you are looking for Net::FTP, then "apt-file search FTP.pm" should find it (after you setup apt-file: /msg dpkg apt-file) |
| 14:35.30 | jrosental | jelly: Ok, but could you explain my why? because i don't use msdos :s |
| 14:35.34 | five0 | yeah, i have apt-file |
| 14:35.40 | five0 | MoDaX, stew: thanks |
| 14:35.45 | stew | five0: or, in general if you are looking for a module named "Audio::WAV" look for a package named libaudio-wav-perl |
| 14:35.45 | jelly | jrosental: in short, because you have a pc. |
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| 14:36.23 | five0 | stew: is that the standard nomenclature? *-perl? |
| 14:36.27 | stew | jrosental: you use msdos partitions so that you COULD create a parition viewable by msdos/windows |
| 14:36.34 | five0 | i can grep for -perl then, i suppose |
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| 14:36.47 | jrosental | stew: but i don't use msdos/windows at all! |
| 14:36.48 | stew | five0: libfoo-bar-perl is the policy for perl modules |
| 14:36.50 | jelly | jrosental: your kernel now doesn't know where to find the partition table on a physical disk and how to interpret it. |
| 14:36.58 | stew | jrosental: yes, i know but you use msdos partition tables |
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| 14:37.51 | jrosental | stew: all pc's use "msdos partition tables", despite the OS they run? |
| 14:38.00 | yygdrasil | I know that Debian is all-free by default, and Ubuntu has a "restricted" component in its main section on a default installation. Does Debian have this, or is it all-free? |
| 14:38.07 | Dunedan | Does anybody know what's happened with debian-marillat? It seems down or something. |
| 14:38.12 | stew | jrosental: no. most do, however |
| 14:38.17 | dabreegster | !tell Dunedan about marillat |
| 14:38.20 | dabreegster | Dunedan: New server |
| 14:38.22 | MoDaX | yygdrasil: contrib and non-free |
| 14:38.29 | Dunedan | dabreegster: ah, thx |
| 14:38.41 | stew | jrosental: if you were using somehting other than dos partition tables, you would know, becuase you would have gone way out of your way to do it |
| 14:39.00 | Jemt | MoDaX: Are you sure you are using kernel 2.6.17? I can only find 2.6.15 in Testing repos. |
| 14:39.05 | yygdrasil | MoDaX, in the default install? Debian has non-free software in the default install? |
| 14:39.12 | jrosental | stew: ok, then i must remove the kernel package i installed using dpkg -i, how do i know the name of it? |
| 14:39.23 | MoDaX | yygdrasil: no |
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| 14:39.48 | stew | jrosental: what was the kernel version? |
| 14:40.03 | Jemt | yygdrasil: You can easily add non-free to your repositories |
| 14:40.07 | stew | jrosental: why not just use a debian kernel? |
| 14:40.15 | five0 | stew: would you happen to know if there are any skeleton files for installation of perl modules that aren't in the repo? |
| 14:40.16 | dabreegster | yygdrasil: Sorry, your name randomly reminds me of Uriel's dragon from the manga Angel Sanctuary. Is that where you got it? |
| 14:40.23 | jrosental | stew: 2.6.17 and i used --append-to-version=.20062006 |
| 14:40.25 | Jemt | yygdrasil: Modify /etc/apt/sources.list as root, and add 'non-free' to your resources |
| 14:40.25 | five0 | stew: i'm after MPD.pm |
| 14:40.43 | MoDaX | Jemt: I'm running self compiled kernel. 2.6.15 should be fine |
| 14:40.48 | yygdrasil | dabreegster, no its one of the first GNU/Linux distributions |
| 14:40.52 | dabreegster | yygdrasil: Oh. |
| 14:41.01 | Qball | five0: hunting I see? |
| 14:41.09 | five0 | Qball: :) |
| 14:41.14 | stew | jrosental: run "COLUMS=200 dpkg -l | grep linux-image" which will tell you the package name, probably somehting like "linux-image-2.6.17-20062006" |
| 14:41.18 | Jemt | MoDaX: Ah, you l33t hacker - I think i'd better not compile my own kernel ^_^; |
| 14:41.22 | five0 | Qball: you have mpd hilighted? |
| 14:41.28 | Qball | yep |
| 14:41.33 | five0 | cool |
| 14:41.35 | stew | five0: use the dh-make-perl package |
| 14:41.49 | stew | !dh-make-perl |
| 14:41.49 | dpkg | hmm... dh-make-perl is a packaged script that converts Perl modules snagged from CPAN into .deb archives. You get to use CPAN archives, Debian's dependencies stay in one piece, everybody's happy. Find more information at http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/dh-make-perl.html |
| 14:41.54 | jrosental | stew: ok, and to delete it can i do it with aptitude purge <package>? |
| 14:42.04 | stew | jrosental: dpkg -P packagename |
| 14:42.17 | jrosental | stew: why not with aptitude? |
| 14:42.27 | stew | aptitude is fine |
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| 14:43.30 | sam` | has anyone experienced mouse problems with the latest xorg update (7.0.22) ? |
| 14:43.47 | sam` | since my last X restart, my mouse does not work :/ i have to use the C-S-VerrNum trick to move the cursor |
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| 14:44.07 | stew | sam`: do you have the mousedev and psmouse modules loaded? |
| 14:44.18 | jair | hello guys good morning. |
| 14:44.20 | stew | sam`: is it a usbmouse? |
| 14:44.44 | jrosental | stew: mousedev is only for usb mouses right? |
| 14:44.57 | stew | jrosental: no |
| 14:45.17 | sam` | stew: damn, you were right, usbhid was missing! |
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| 14:45.28 | sam` | X isn't supposed to modprobe it? |
| 14:45.37 | fontp | anybody gota second to give me a quick iptables answer ? |
| 14:45.58 | stew | sam`: no, probably hotplug used to and udev isn't yet smart enough to. add usbhid to /etc/modules |
| 14:46.08 | sam` | yeah |
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| 14:46.10 | stew | fontp: if you have a real quedstion, jsut ask it |
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| 14:46.11 | sam` | thanks |
| 14:46.13 | fontp | is -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -s any -j ACCEPT syntactically correct, or should i drop the "-s any" ? |
| 14:46.26 | abrotman | !tell fontp about iptables |
| 14:46.28 | jrosental | stew: then for what is mousedev? |
| 14:46.36 | sam` | my box reboots only on power failures (aka one on 4 months) |
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| 14:46.39 | stew | fontp: drop the "-s any" or make it -s 0/0 |
| 14:46.50 | sam` | so untested upgrades sometimes makes things go weird after the reboot |
| 14:46.52 | stew | jrosental: general mouse support, /dev/input/mice |
| 14:47.05 | fontp | thanks, stew |
| 14:47.20 | sam` | stew: ok, i got it, the module usbmouse no longer exists |
| 14:47.26 | jrosental | stew: ok, but generally /dev/input/mice is used only by usb mouses.. |
| 14:47.32 | stew | jrosental: no, that's not true |
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| 14:47.37 | sam` | which was is my /etc/modules |
| 14:48.00 | stew | sam`: usbmouse should still exist |
| 14:48.08 | jrosental | stew: wtf? ps2 mouses use /dev/psaux, serial ones uses /dev/ttySX, usb use that |
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| 14:48.19 | sam` | % modprobe -l | grep usbmouse |
| 14:48.19 | stew | jrosental: you can use /dev/input/mice with ps2 mice |
| 14:48.20 | sam` | zsh: exit 1 |
| 14:48.35 | stew | jrosental: /sbin/modinfo mousedev: description: Mouse (ExplorerPS/2) device interfaces |
| 14:48.41 | jrosental | stew: how do you know then what port is your mouse going to use? |
| 14:48.42 | kingspawn | Anyone have any experience with Audigy-cards from Creative? Mine is acting strange. When volume is above 1% it starts cracking up and going all noise on me. |
| 14:48.47 | sam` | and i did not change my kernel for a while |
| 14:49.02 | stew | jrosental: if you use mousedev, you don't need to know, they all will be agregated into /dev/input/mice |
| 14:50.02 | stew | sam`: i get: /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbmouse.ko |
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| 14:50.38 | sam` | [pts/4] -usb/input root@skikda# ls |
| 14:50.38 | sam` | usbhid.ko wacom.ko |
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| 14:55.03 | MatBoy | How often are you guys changing your passwords of servers and so on ? |
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| 14:56.48 | HyperZid | hi.. anyone know what will happend if I try to send 7 files to 7 other bluetooth devices over rffcom/obex at the same time? |
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| 14:57.17 | HyperZid | I've heard that rffcom. or what the name is.. can max send 6 files at the same time |
| 14:58.17 | HyperZid | rfcomm |
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| 14:58.40 | HyperZid | The Bluetooth protocol RFCOMM is a simple set of transport protocols, providing emulated RS232 serial ports (up to sixty simultaneous connections of a bluetooth device at a time). |
| 14:59.28 | HyperZid | wondering if the obex protocol can que the 7. connection.. or if I get connection refused.. or something.. when I try to connect more than 6 interfaces. |
| 15:00.56 | HyperZid | A piconet is an ad-hoc computer network of devices using Bluetooth technology protocols to allow one master device to interconnect with up to seven active slave devices (because a three-bit MAC address is used). Up to 255 further slave devices can be inactive, or parked, which the master device can bring into active status at any time. |
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| 15:01.50 | anotherircuser | hello ! i've the last debian stable release, but I don't know how to mount my usb key.. when i plug/unplug the key I can see that : new USB device 00:10.2-1, assigned address 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x419/0xa002) is not claimed by any active driver |
| 15:02.19 | Myon | it's probably at /dev/sda1 |
| 15:03.52 | anobain | what can I do in order to not getting modified resolv.conf when starting the PC? I've commented out all dhcp stuff in/etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:04.56 | plasmoduck | hey where is the wordlist stored when I install wenglish? |
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| 15:05.07 | anotherircuser | Myon> Tks ! I don't know why but after plugging/unplugging it says "Initialising the driver..." and now I can mount /dev/sda1.... |
| 15:06.12 | stew | anotherircuser: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 15:07.19 | jelly | anobain: perhaps remove the resolvconf package? |
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| 15:10.08 | anobain | jelly, and then, when do I place the DNSs? |
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| 15:11.02 | anobain | jelly, when/where |
| 15:11.29 | tnks | I have a question about the Debian Policy. Can symlinks be identified as conffiles too? |
| 15:11.54 | jelly | anobain: put them in /etc/resolv.conf, it just won't be handled dynamically any more. |
| 15:11.54 | eastwood | anyone using thunderbird? |
| 15:12.13 | abrotman | eastwood: just ask |
| 15:12.15 | anobain | ok |
| 15:12.41 | abrotman | !tell tnks about mentors |
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| 15:12.59 | abrotman | !tell tnks about mentors |
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| 15:13.08 | abrotman | tnks: i added a URL :) |
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| 15:13.11 | eastwood | abrotman, do you know how to preview an email before sending? |
| 15:13.12 | itchi | abrotman: My first support on #debian-nl in my native languages. Yes, there are peoples of my country coming :-) |
| 15:13.24 | eastwood | like in oo writer |
| 15:13.32 | itchi | abrotman: I had never see someone there :-/ |
| 15:13.37 | tnks | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 15:18.01 | itchi | abrotman: I understand you are not happy about me. I understand and have learn it for the next time. Sorry my friend |
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| 15:19.27 | whaq | gentlemen |
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| 15:19.57 | whaq | does anyone have any good solution for using rsnapshot, rdiff (or the likes) to make daily backups from a windows machine? |
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| 15:20.47 | jrosental | whaq: maybe amanda? |
| 15:20.56 | itchi | rdiff-backup ?? |
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| 15:21.52 | whaq | jrosental, ok |
| 15:22.11 | odb|fidel | hi, i got a short question regarding the use of the put cmd in lftp. If i want to upload all files & dirs "under" XY....it looks like the simple cmd: put /xy/* doenst work. What am i doing wrong ? |
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| 15:22.34 | whaq | itchi, rsnapshot is actually great.. the user will have direct access to past backups through their file browser. ie: w/ rdiff they need to run the rdiff-backup somehow to pull older backup. |
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| 15:23.35 | whaq | itchi, i'm just still unsure about the mechanism of putting the backup TO the server itself.. and when we've added a 2nd PC into the mix, the problem gets more complex (backup server + desktop pc + notebook, for example) |
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| 15:24.32 | itchi | whaq: Yes, it's not an simply task to do. And it's critic in the sense it need to work like expect. I'm not very experienced with it :-/ |
| 15:24.56 | whaq | itchi, have you got a use for such solution though? (do you need something like that?) |
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| 15:25.10 | whaq | it seems to be such a common problem.. |
| 15:25.29 | itchi | whaq: I have an simply backup script. That pipe it trought an ssh connection |
| 15:25.55 | whaq | itchi, ah.. i have some windows users to maintain. i'd rather not install cygwin on their machines.. |
| 15:26.31 | MrNaz | load average: 14.21, 10.39, 5.40 <-- my box completely froze for a few minutes (i couldnt ssh in it was timing out and web was timing out), and when it came back, i saw those load averages... if i want to find out what caused it, how would I go about it? |
| 15:27.01 | itchi | whaq: Example of what i use tar cvzf - etc/ | ssh USERNAME@IP "cat > /home/USERNAME/etc.tar.gz" |
| 15:27.42 | whaq | MrNaz, time machine :> what cpu does it have? |
| 15:27.46 | itchi | whaq: But you already told, without cygwin :-/ But i also interesting in you're case. I have no M$ box here |
| 15:28.18 | whaq | itchi, yes.. that's good. i've seen ppl use rcs, rsnapshot and rdiff on their etc to survive 'TESTS' |
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| 15:29.12 | MrNaz | whaq its a dual opteron machine... to anything that causes that is scarey |
| 15:29.17 | MrNaz | s/to/so |
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| 15:29.36 | stew | MrNaz: check "vmstat 1" ignore the first couple of lines, and see if si or so lines are non-zero |
| 15:29.48 | whaq | itchi, ok. I've found some probable solutions... simplest one is to have a backup util running on window (cobian, synctoy, etc) to do a daily dump of said directory (IE: My Documents) to the samba share on debian. then have rsnapshot manage the rotation on server side.. |
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| 15:29.54 | DrCurl | hello |
| 15:30.01 | stew | MrNaz: oh, if its not loaded now, then check free and see if swap is being used, possibly you ran low on memory |
| 15:30.09 | whaq | MrNaz, yeah. we use those too.. rarely miss any beat |
| 15:30.18 | stew | MrNaz: and of course, check logs |
| 15:30.18 | itchi | whaq: You're better than my :-p |
| 15:30.19 | MrNaz | stew : 1 0 61952 1372664 1320 613272 32 0 32 0 1015 33 50 0 50 0 |
| 15:30.19 | whaq | hi Doctor |
| 15:30.29 | DrCurl | I have installed console-terminus, since this fonts are supposed to be good for coding... how can I use them now? |
| 15:30.51 | whaq | itchi, just sharing the best solution i've found so far... would appreciate other options :> |
| 15:30.56 | stew | MrNaz: if si is non-sero you are recovering from swapping |
| 15:31.00 | stew | non-zero* |
| 15:31.03 | itchi | whaq: Your good :-) |
| 15:31.05 | MrNaz | erm... |
| 15:31.19 | MrNaz | my box is broken |
| 15:31.30 | MrNaz | mrnaz:/proc# ./meminfo |
| 15:31.30 | MrNaz | -bash: ./meminfo: Permission denied |
| 15:31.32 | dabreegster | DrCurl: consolechars -f /usr/share/consolefonts/foo |
| 15:31.32 | whaq | itchi, i believe there are many better ones here :> |
| 15:31.33 | MrNaz | i get that as root |
| 15:31.45 | stew | MrNaz: cat ./meminfo |
| 15:31.47 | whaq | MrNaz, what did you do? |
| 15:31.53 | stew | MrNaz: meminfo isn't an executable file |
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| 15:31.55 | DrCurl | dabreegster, thanks |
| 15:31.56 | MrNaz | aah |
| 15:32.00 | physiker | i'm looking for solseek (spaceweather - applet) for an amd64 box |
| 15:32.05 | itchi | whaq: Yeah, that's sure, here are some _kings_ :-) the best channel on the world :-) |
| 15:32.14 | MrNaz | whaq i didnt do anything... i want even SSHed in at the time, and hadnt for several hours... i noticed when the web stopped responding |
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| 15:33.07 | stew | MrNaz: that 61952 and later the first 32 that you pasted confirms that you are recovering from swapping, so something was using lots of memory |
| 15:33.42 | MrNaz | stew hmm... is there any way of finding out what? |
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| 15:34.56 | stew | MrNaz: not really after the fact. you can check logs to see if for instance you processed a ton of mail all at once (which is why my server is currently: load average: 56.66, 42.43, 24.42) |
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| 15:35.23 | MrNaz | server only has a postgresql and apache running... so its one of those |
| 15:35.28 | DrCurl | dabreegster: whenever I chose one of the multple files inside /usr/share/consolefonts... I get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 15:35.28 | DrCurl | get_console_fd: Invalid argument" |
| 15:35.55 | dabreegster | DrCurl: Hmm. Were you on the console? Do you have permission to access it? Might have to run it as root or sudo |
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| 15:36.07 | MrNaz | stew recovering from swapping... can you tell that its heavy swapping? or will any dip into swap memory cause that to happen? |
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| 15:36.49 | DrCurl | ok dabreegster, btw, there is so many fonts, do you recommand any? |
| 15:37.04 | dabreegster | DrCurl: I like my PC's default VGA font |
| 15:37.17 | dabreegster | DrCurl: The medieval one is kind of cool, but impractical |
| 15:37.18 | stew | MrNaz: 14 sounds heavy |
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| 15:37.44 | plasmoduck | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.47 | MrNaz | time for more ream i think |
| 15:37.59 | pavao | hi |
| 15:38.01 | MrNaz | 2gb was a conservative estimate anyway |
| 15:38.07 | MrNaz | i should have put in 4 from day 1 |
| 15:38.09 | MrNaz | oh well |
| 15:38.37 | stew | MrNaz: wow, if you chewed through all of 2gb, i'd guess that something went wrong |
| 15:38.59 | MrNaz | yea thats why id like to know what it was |
| 15:39.11 | stew | MrNaz: what does "free | sed -n 2p" say? |
| 15:39.11 | MrNaz | there's a fairly heavy DB running from it... but not 2gb heavy yet |
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| 15:39.32 | MrNaz | stew: mrnaz:/proc# free | sed -n 2p |
| 15:39.33 | MrNaz | Mem: 2053288 1789236 264052 0 1380 1718468 |
| 15:39.47 | stew | you have lots of free memory now |
| 15:40.16 | MrNaz | yeap |
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| 15:40.52 | MrNaz | stew thanks for your help anyways.... if you care, my box's info is here: http://old.mrnaz.com/stuff/info.php (feel free to lift that code as well hehe) |
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| 15:41.32 | ricky_clarkson | Urgh, I just did /msg dpkg apt-get install w32codecs ;) |
| 15:41.43 | jemt | MoDaX: Now running x.org on Gnome 2.14 and kernel 2.6.15. And my laptop monitor is finally turned off :) |
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| 15:41.57 | jemt | MoDaX: And CPU Scaling still works ;) |
| 15:42.32 | stew | ricky_clarkson: the bot probably isn't interested in viewing WMVs :) |
| 15:42.39 | ricky_clarkson | Really? |
| 15:42.43 | jemt | Hehe :) |
| 15:42.44 | ricky_clarkson | I am, how do I do it? |
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| 15:43.01 | ricky_clarkson | Preferably in a way that firefox can use too. |
| 15:43.20 | stew | ricky_clarkson: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 15:43.35 | jemt | BRB |
| 15:44.35 | jair | guys, if I have an ntp server on the network where I am installing my debian computer, and I want to syncronize the time of the debian server with that machine what should I do? |
| 15:44.50 | jair | it is a file on the debian qhere I can add the ntp server hostname? |
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| 15:46.14 | ricky_clarkson | stew: marillat directs me to using apt-key, which I cannot find. |
| 15:46.52 | stew | ricky_clarkson: /msg dpkg marillat key |
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| 15:47.04 | ricky_clarkson | Did that. |
| 15:47.19 | reviewer | hi |
| 15:47.21 | stew | ricky_clarkson: you mean you don't have apt-key installed? |
| 15:47.24 | ricky_clarkson | Right. |
| 15:47.36 | stew | ricky_clarkson: what version of apt do you have? |
| 15:47.56 | ricky_clarkson | 0.5.28.6 ahh ;) |
| 15:48.08 | jair | anyone here have an idea of how to syncronize an ntp server already set up with a new debian system? |
| 15:48.12 | stew | yeah no apt-key until 0.6.44 iirc |
| 15:48.16 | stew | err 0.6 |
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| 15:48.55 | stew | jair: list the ntp server's ip address in /etc/ntp.conf |
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| 15:49.21 | rashkae | Is there some kind of easy shortcut that will allow me to apt-get build-dev for the entire system? |
| 15:49.28 | reviewer | ntp -> (only in german) : http://www.linux-fuer-alle.de/doc_show.php?docid=7&catid=11 |
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| 15:50.01 | stew | rashkae: build-dev? |
| 15:50.30 | rashkae | stew sorry, buid-deb |
| 15:50.46 | stew | build-deb? |
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| 15:50.53 | stew | rashkae: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 15:51.14 | jemt | Back. Can someone help me get my sound back? I have just reinstalled Debian with a newer kernel, newer version of Gnome, newer version of the X server (I'm using Testing repos now) - but my sound is gone |
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| 15:51.41 | rashkae | stew Allright, laugh at my innability to type antying today, I mean, build-dep.. I'm tring to snatch all those pesky .h files without having to cherry pick -dev packages every time. |
| 15:52.28 | stew | rashkae: you want the build-deps for *every package on your system*? |
| 15:52.40 | ricky_clarkson | stew: I installed mplayer but firefox still thinks it can't view realplayer stuff. |
| 15:52.46 | rashkae | stew Yup, that sounds about right. |
| 15:52.50 | lightcap | anyone know if there's any issues with the latest debian update to mysql? it crashed after an apt-get upgrade |
| 15:53.29 | stew | rashkae: did you install mozilla-mplayer (or mplayer-mozilla or whatever its called) |
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| 15:53.52 | rashkae | stew I think that was meant of ricky_clarkson :) |
| 15:54.10 | ricky_clarkson | stew: I can't find anything like that. |
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| 15:54.39 | jair | stew: nice |
| 15:54.46 | stew | rashkae: you might wanna look at apt-build ; if you really wanted to install build-deps for /every/ package (which sounds a little insane) run something like: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk /^.i/{print\$2} | xargs apt-get build-dep" |
| 15:55.29 | lightcap | short of knowing something about the latest update, how can I go back to the last version? |
| 15:55.42 | jemt | Can someone help me install sound support in Debian ? |
| 15:55.56 | jemt | I have no clue how to get started. Last time it was installed automatically |
| 15:56.21 | stew | jemt: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:56.40 | jemt | stew: 2.6.15-1-686 :) |
| 15:56.41 | abrotman | itchi: you're fine .. i'm not mad at you .. your english is a little lacking .. just makes it difficult to give you good support when it's hard to understand what you're saying .. we'll try our best :) |
| 15:56.54 | stew | jemt: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 15:57.19 | jemt | stew: Thanks |
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| 15:58.12 | stew | lightcap: have you checked the bts? |
| 15:58.20 | lightcap | yeah |
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| 15:58.32 | lightcap | Stew I dont see anything that looks like it |
| 15:58.37 | jemt | Shouldn't I use a "real" sound server instead of Alsa? To my knowledge it dosn't support more than one application using the device at a time |
| 15:58.44 | rashkae | stew Why does it sound insane? I bow to your greater knowledge, but from what I see, all the libaries will obviously already be there, so this is simply an equivalent to the Suse "Install all matching dev" packages,, for instance. |
| 15:58.46 | itchi | abrotman: You're really better than wath i'm was thinking about you, and i was realy not thinkings somethings bad about you in the past. You got a bonus of 100 points :-) Good guys here ! :-) |
| 15:58.46 | lightcap | stew: it's a pretty new release, that might be why I guess... |
| 15:58.51 | stew | lightcap: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 15:59.01 | abrotman | itchi: thank you |
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| 15:59.13 | itchi | abrotman: I love you :-p |
| 15:59.21 | abrotman | eh .. ok :) |
| 15:59.27 | stew | rashkae: i don't know why you would want to recompile all of those packages so i don't see why you'd install all those build-deps |
| 15:59.35 | lightcap | stew: I know how to report the bug, but in the meantime I need to figure out if there's a way to rollback |
| 16:00.20 | MrNaz | stew well i think i can definitely say it was postgresql... i checked with top and there was still a proc running at 100%... i checked coz i saw this load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.48 and figured whatever caused the prob was still hitting the cpu... sure enough there was a postgresql child running 99.9%cpu |
| 16:00.48 | stew | lightcap: apt-get install package=version |
| 16:01.16 | rashkae | stew I don't.. I just don't want to play the missing dependancy game every time I try to compile anything else,,, it might seem like a small thing, but it irritates the hell out of me. |
| 16:01.28 | lightcap | stew: and the best way to determine what the package version installed prior to this is? |
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| 16:01.39 | stew | lightcap: check /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 16:01.49 | lightcap | stew: much thanks :-) |
| 16:02.06 | jemt | I have now installed ALSA, but there is still no sound from XMMS |
| 16:02.16 | jemt | And yes, XMMS is set to use ALSA :) |
| 16:02.33 | RichiH | hmm, where in an initrd can i see what root it is going to mount? |
| 16:02.38 | stew | lightcap: you should reportbug while you still have the broken version installed though, or take care to edit the psudoheaders so that the version the bug pertains to is tracked correctly |
| 16:02.52 | rashkae | stew I tried using synaptic and just install all development packages from Ubuntu daper-drake main repo. but that, not only was an insane course of action. left me with a very broken system. |
| 16:03.11 | stew | rashkae: are you running ubuntu or debian? |
| 16:03.18 | itchi | jemt: Other apps get sounds ? |
| 16:03.20 | stew | RichiH: that would be in the kernel command line not the initrd afiak |
| 16:03.32 | stew | as far i as know? |
| 16:03.41 | jemt | itchi: Oh, I had to run alsaconf - working now :D |
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| 16:03.55 | itchi | jemt: Probably you need to save the settings ? |
| 16:04.09 | GNULinux3 | I am having troubles with nvidia drivers, My X start into a black screen...? |
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| 16:04.25 | jemt | itchi: Working now :) |
| 16:04.30 | itchi | jemt: :-) |
| 16:04.50 | jemt | Debian rules, man - great system :D |
| 16:05.23 | MatBoy | Does someone know a RSA onetime-password program with a small key that receives the coe ? I forgot the name of the supplier :( |
| 16:05.24 | itchi | jemt: Yeah, no one rules better, i never seen somethings better than this! ;-) |
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| 16:05.29 | rashkae | stew Ubuntu at the moment. |
| 16:05.31 | MatBoy | coe-code |
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| 16:05.39 | RichiH | stew: /dev/ram0, but i can not see where it comes from |
| 16:05.39 | stew | rashkae: you should be asking ubuntu questions in #ubuntu, not here |
| 16:06.00 | rashkae | stew sorry man, didn't mean to offend,, I appreciate the help you've offered so far. |
| 16:06.00 | stew | RichiH: oh, hmm |
| 16:06.27 | jemt | itchi: I have been using Ubuntu until now, but the recent release, Dapper, was one big Bug - so I had no choice but find an alternative - Debian seems to be what I was looking for :) |
| 16:07.07 | lightcap | stew: strange, but I don't have a dpkg.log |
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| 16:07.36 | cytrak | how can I find out what packages is installed on my system ? |
| 16:08.10 | stew | lightcap: what version of debian are you running? what version of dpkg do you have installed? |
| 16:08.28 | lightcap | sarge...and hang on |
| 16:08.37 | dabreegster | cytrak: dpkg --get-selections | grep install |
| 16:08.43 | stew | lightcap: oh, there is no dpkg.log in sarge, i figured you were on testing/unstable |
| 16:09.00 | lightcap | dpkg is 1.1.0.28 |
| 16:09.01 | AlbertEin_ZaYa | does somebody knows if apt or libapt-pkg have a project homepage? i'm unable to find it |
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| 16:09.08 | lightcap | oops 1.10.28 |
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| 16:09.17 | MoDaX | jemt: cool |
| 16:09.19 | stew | lightcap: yeah, dpkg.log wasn't until dpkg 1.1.13 |
| 16:09.26 | jemt | MoDaX, yep :) |
| 16:09.26 | stew | err 1.13 |
| 16:09.26 | MoDaX | jemt: try suspend now |
| 16:09.31 | jemt | MoDaX, Okay :) |
| 16:09.53 | lightcap | stew: bummer. any other way to tell what the previous version was then? |
| 16:09.57 | jemt | MoDaX, Eh, can't remember what file to send "mem" to |
| 16:10.02 | cytrak | can that tool also show me pkgs that are available but not installed ? |
| 16:10.21 | jemt | MoDaX, /sys/power/state ? |
| 16:10.37 | MoDaX | jemt: yeah |
| 16:10.46 | stew | lightcap: yeah, your current version is probably 4.1.11a-4sarge4 (the current stable) and your previous was probably 4.1.11a-4sarge3 or 4.1.11a-4sarge2 |
| 16:10.47 | jemt | Here goes nothing :) |
| 16:10.59 | lightcap | yeah, that looks right |
| 16:11.02 | lightcap | how did you find that info |
| 16:11.25 | MoDaX | jemt: nothing happened? |
| 16:11.50 | dabreegster | cytrak: Use a package manager tool. aptitude or synaptic |
| 16:12.35 | cytrak | dabreegster: that requires X ? |
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| 16:12.52 | dabreegster | cytrak: synaptic does. aptitude doesn't. |
| 16:13.31 | eastwood | yeah, synaptic is nice to track packages |
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| 16:13.59 | eastwood | kpackage as well |
| 16:14.10 | stew | lightcap: http://packages.debian.org/mysql-server-4.1 |
| 16:14.36 | stew | lightcap: thats where i found current version, previous version is obvious from that |
| 16:14.53 | stew | lightcap: since version numbers don't change in stable, just the debian revision |
| 16:15.04 | lightcap | okay cool |
| 16:15.05 | lightcap | thankx |
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| 16:16.42 | jemt | MoDaX: It worked like a charme. The laptop suspends in just 1½ second but takes about 45-60 seconds to wake up again. And if I press the power button, the computer halts automatically :D |
| 16:17.30 | eleftherios | I have been given a system running Etch which has both grub and lilo installed! Will this cause problems? (I only have remote access to the machine) |
| 16:17.39 | stoned | !ping |
| 16:17.39 | dpkg | pong |
| 16:17.46 | stoned | oh damn, I'm lagging |
| 16:17.48 | jemt | MoDaX: Is it a difficult operation to make it suspend when I close the lid ? Typing the command each time is not the optimal way |
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| 16:18.28 | jemt | MoDaX: Though I could just create a shortcut - but making it suspend when I close the lid would be great :) |
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| 16:18.47 | MoDaX | jemt: you can |
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| 16:18.58 | jemt | MoDaX: Can you give me a hint ? :) |
| 16:19.15 | MoDaX | jemt: sec |
| 16:19.21 | jemt | MoDaX: THanks :) |
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| 16:23.55 | smhar | I have put a cdrom and mounted it, listed its content and tried unmount but I keep getting device is busy. what to do? |
| 16:24.24 | killown | smhar fuser -km /dev/hdc |
| 16:24.31 | DerJamster | get out of the cdrom dir ;P |
| 16:24.42 | MoDaX | jemt: there is a package 'acpi-support' in unstable (but not in testing yet. too young). it installs a bunch of scripts, which should just what you want. I've tried them myself. thus you have two options 1) get the package from unstable and install it on your testing system (should be safe) 2) wait till acpi-support enters testing |
| 16:25.06 | smhar | DerJamster, I did. |
| 16:25.18 | killown | smhar fuser -km /dev/hdc ... |
| 16:25.21 | smhar | killown, ok! |
| 16:25.50 | jemt | MoDaX: Ok, great. I'll probably wait until Testing then - but right now it is just another test install - so I'll try it out in a bit. Thanks :) |
| 16:25.55 | MoDaX | jemt: if no release critical bugs are found, migration to testing should take approx. one week |
| 16:26.13 | jemt | MoDaX: Wow, fast :) |
| 16:26.22 | smhar | killown, another nice command to remember, thanks |
| 16:26.56 | jemt | Wow, it is late - I'd better head down to the store to buy some food .. BRB :) |
| 16:27.18 | MoDaX | jemt: 4 days already passed of 10 days needed |
| 16:28.00 | jemt | MoDaX: The developers are quite effective :) |
| 16:28.00 | jair | guys sorry again for ask the question again, but my fedora (5) get a name by default and I want to see where the name is stored so I can change it. On debian is on the hostname file but in FC5 I try to look in host.conf and is something different |
| 16:28.28 | MoDaX | jair: #fedora |
| 16:28.29 | madclicker | does the debian package of courier-maildrop supports mysql users/ |
| 16:28.31 | madclicker | ? |
| 16:29.25 | jair | MoDaX: I am so sorry I am using irssi and I though I was in Fedore :) |
| 16:29.44 | MoDaX | jair: generally, grep for 'hostname' in init script directory and you should find the place |
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| 16:33.15 | cytrak | is it possible to install apt and dpkg on a debian system that does not have any developer tools ? |
| 16:33.22 | cytrak | I'm using pyramid |
| 16:33.35 | madclicker | anyone using courier-maildrop with mysql? |
| 16:33.42 | vince35 | hi all , i'm looking for a nice tuto about debootstrap.... |
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| 16:41.03 | MoDaX | eleftherios:grub will be used by default |
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| 16:42.48 | MoDaX | eleftherios: unless this was changled while installing or sometime later. anyway, both grub and lilo can be installed on the same system (otherwise they would conflict with each other) |
| 16:43.06 | MoDaX | changed* |
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| 16:45.38 | christor | Please someone know the table SNMP? I m trying thing with SNMP. I have the info in local usign snmpwalk and snmpget but in remote when I try to have info , I have table requested does not exist |
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| 16:50.13 | ManiacLappy | where is the sparc netboot image located? |
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| 16:51.52 | SixtyWatt | Has anyone had any issues with java hanging up? When I use Azureus my windows freeze completely. I am using the sun java package also. |
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| 16:53.17 | infernix | vince35: http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html |
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| 16:53.42 | vince35 | infernix, thx man |
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| 16:57.19 | mick_work | ManiacLappy: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-sparc/beta2/images/sparc32/netboot/ |
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| 16:57.40 | mick_work | if you have 64bit - s/32/64/ |
| 16:57.40 | nbt | hi, there're chances to get kopete 0.12 n debian sarge ? |
| 16:58.06 | mick_work | nbt: it might be in unstable |
| 16:58.35 | nbt | mick_work can only work on debian etch and sid ? |
| 16:59.08 | mick_work | ??? |
| 17:00.40 | fackamato | guys |
| 17:00.52 | fackamato | I see "unstable" isn't on the security repo |
| 17:00.57 | fackamato | but, "testing" is the same? |
| 17:01.02 | itchi | hhhhmmmm, ksudoku :-) |
| 17:01.08 | fackamato | :- |
| 17:01.23 | fackamato | What's most stable after sarge? testing, etch or sid? :> |
| 17:01.32 | itchi | There are an backport of it if you want ;-) |
| 17:01.35 | infernix | sarge=stable, testing=etch, unstable=sid |
| 17:01.42 | fackamato | thanks |
| 17:01.56 | infernix | security for sid will never be in place. i believe testing is being watched, or was at least. not sure. |
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| 17:05.11 | jair | MoDaX: thank you :) |
| 17:05.30 | Bitz | hi, any idea why i can't ssh to a system that was port forward from the fw-router? |
| 17:06.34 | MoDaX | nbt: kopete 0.12 is not even in unstable. for some reason debian kde maintainers are ignorant about it |
| 17:06.39 | itchi | Bitz: Firewall block the traffic ?? |
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| 17:07.04 | Bitz | no iptables or ipchains setup on system |
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| 17:07.21 | jair | MoDaX: in what init script I was checking on the init.d? |
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| 17:07.34 | Bitz | no problem sshing to it on the local lan |
| 17:07.51 | nbt | m it's normal that trying to install xorg says it'll remove x-window-system-core xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 17:08.16 | MoDaX | jair: grep recursively |
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| 17:09.13 | Bitz | itchi: port forward work fine a another system, how can i troubleshoot the problem? |
| 17:09.18 | adi | Bitz: something with /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} ? |
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| 17:09.57 | jair | MoDaX: hmm interesting that is why I like #debian and debian OS people here really knows more about the deep of the system |
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| 17:10.11 | itchi | Bitz: With some network tools to analyse? Like ethereal or so? I'm not very well with advanced networking :-/ |
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| 17:10.34 | jair | MoDaX: I still not understanding, but I know you are helping me even when the question is regarding another os and I appreciate your help. |
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| 17:11.36 | sneex | any DFSBuild users here? |
| 17:11.46 | eleftherios | I have been given a system running Etch which has both grub and lilo installed! Will this cause problems? (I only have remote access to the machine) |
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| 17:14.10 | MoDaX | jair: if fedora has something like /etc/init.d in debian, do grep -rn 'hostname' /etc/init.d/ |
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| 17:15.20 | MoDaX | jair: hostname is a standard unix command to view/change hostname |
| 17:16.03 | sneex | FC does indeed use /etc/init.d start-up links |
| 17:16.30 | sneex | they are linked to S/K /etc/rc*d directories |
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| 17:17.01 | MoDaX | jair: hostname <yourhostname> or hostname --file <hostnamefile> will change the hostname of a running system |
| 17:17.13 | setog3 | wow they are more user on #ubuntu .. why .. the official debian chan is on freenode ? |
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| 17:18.03 | MoDaX | setog3: no. irc.debian.org points to irc.oftc.net now |
| 17:18.10 | setog3 | arf !D |
| 17:18.31 | Divine07 | can anyone recommend a good p2p program for linux |
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| 17:18.39 | sepski | mldonkey |
| 17:18.48 | zenit | amule, azureus |
| 17:19.00 | Divine07 | amule... |
| 17:19.09 | MoDaX | setog3: but both chans can said to be "official" |
| 17:19.10 | setog3 | Divine07: mldonkey, nicotine, amule, bittornado |
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| 17:19.22 | rakris | HI where to get debian |
| 17:19.26 | Divine07 | amule is supposed to run on all platforms, right? |
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| 17:19.29 | Divine07 | how does that work |
| 17:19.31 | MoDaX | rakris: www.debian.org |
| 17:19.31 | setog3 | MoDaX: and how many people on #debian on irc.debian.org ? |
| 17:19.33 | rakris | and tell its easy install? |
| 17:19.43 | stew | rakris: http://debian.org click on "getting debian" ; /msg dpkg ig |
| 17:19.45 | zenit | Divine07: I've tried it on both linux and OSX. Worked quite well. |
| 17:19.51 | MoDaX | setog3: 266 atm |
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| 17:19.57 | Bitz | adi: no |
| 17:20.07 | Divine07 | how can a prog work on all platforms? is it something like java where it runs slow as hell |
| 17:20.15 | setog3 | MoDaX: .. it's seems to be more ubuntu (irc) users .. s,off |
| 17:20.16 | rakris | OK thanks.....tell is it easy to install for a fedora user |
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| 17:20.28 | nbt | i seen debian has rdp and vnc CLIENTs but what about servers ; how do i connect in rdp to my debian from remote ? |
| 17:20.34 | stew | rakris: yes, its easy to install |
| 17:20.44 | rakris | wow...Thanks stew |
| 17:20.50 | Divine07 | nbt, i'm not sure you can, it would be awesome if you could tho |
| 17:20.57 | Divine07 | rdp for debian would rock |
| 17:21.07 | g333k | Hi, to see firefox in another version is just necessary to install the firefox-locales ? |
| 17:21.15 | Divine07 | <--- hates vnc |
| 17:21.56 | MoDaX | nbt: wasn't rdp designed for windows? |
| 17:21.59 | Divine07 | yeah |
| 17:22.11 | MoDaX | nbt: what's wrong with X networking capabilities? |
| 17:22.29 | nbt | i just need to connect to my machine remotely |
| 17:22.36 | nbt | nothing wrone anywhere |
| 17:22.42 | MoDaX | nbt: from windows? :) |
| 17:22.45 | Divine07 | yes |
| 17:22.49 | Divine07 | rdp = WAY better than VNC |
| 17:22.50 | nbt | yes |
| 17:22.53 | kyncani | with cygwin |
| 17:22.53 | zenit | X his demanding on bandwidth |
| 17:22.55 | zenit | is |
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| 17:23.11 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.35 | MoDaX | nbt: I'm afraid vnc is the only good solution |
| 17:23.44 | kyncani | cygwin on windows for X + gdm on linux i think |
| 17:23.52 | plasmoduck | what port does asterisk use for the web config? |
| 17:24.13 | nbt | i don't care what's the package/software all i want is to connect to my linux box from a shitty windows box |
| 17:24.25 | MoDaX | nbt: if you install X on windows, then you're good to go with ssh -X |
| 17:24.25 | nbt | and i pray this is possible... now |
| 17:24.57 | nbt | ssh -X gives a graphical |
| 17:25.00 | nbt | i-face ? |
| 17:25.15 | MoDaX | nbt: and to install X on windows, you will need cygwin |
| 17:25.50 | nbt | wait... if ssh-x gives a gfx access to my debby i can much simply run a live linux on te winzzoz box |
| 17:25.51 | nbt | ;) |
| 17:25.53 | MoDaX | nbt: no. creates a secure tunnel to your linux box with X forwarding enabled |
| 17:26.22 | nbt | being able to pass text cmds is helpless for me |
| 17:26.23 | nbt | ;( |
| 17:27.10 | nbt | so definively i can connect yto windows but not from ? |
| 17:27.14 | MoDaX | nbt: you will be able to run X programs and they show up on the remote screen |
| 17:27.19 | MoDaX | they will |
| 17:27.38 | nbt | MoDaX> can't simply see current desktop ? |
| 17:27.44 | kyncani | nbt: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin-howto |
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| 17:28.06 | MoDaX | nbt: of course you can |
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| 17:28.21 | MoDaX | nbt: I've just never tried this :) |
| 17:28.26 | nadim | Hi - is there an issue with testing and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 ?? |
| 17:28.47 | MoDaX | nadim: /usr/X11R6 should go away |
| 17:28.49 | nbt | mmm and a linux to linux "rdp" is possible ? |
| 17:29.06 | nadim | MoDaX: what about old applications that depend on that path ? |
| 17:30.15 | MoDaX | nadim: /usr/X11R6/{bin,lib} will be symlinks to /usr/bin and /usr/lib |
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| 17:30.45 | nadim | MoDaX: sure, symlinks are OK but as it stands now testing is totally broken in that regard - note bug-354187 |
| 17:30.50 | nwonknu | hi has anyone got experience here installing ipw2200_linux_1_1_0.tgz on debian sarge |
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| 17:31.22 | nadim | MoDaX: whom can I talk to in order to get this looked into ASAP (it is that serious of an issue) |
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| 17:32.23 | MoDaX | nadim: I running unstable. no problems with locales here |
| 17:32.28 | MoDaX | I'm* |
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| 17:32.56 | stew | nadim: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
| 17:33.02 | nwonknu | is it a difficult to upgrade debian sarge to a 2.6.8+ kernel when the linux machine doesn't have an internet connection |
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| 17:33.47 | nadim | stew: 7.0.22 |
| 17:34.08 | MoDaX | nadim: do you have libx11-data installed? |
| 17:34.11 | nadim | MoDaX: it might depend on applications |
| 17:34.28 | nadim | MoDaX: yeah -- version 1.0.0-6 |
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| 17:34.53 | Juerd | After dist-upgrading, "su" no longer works without password if I want to become non-root while being root |
| 17:34.59 | abrotman | nwonknu: you need a few packages .. but shouldn't be too hard |
| 17:35.00 | nadim | stew: in short this is post 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' of a testing system that was installed/upgraded about a month ago |
| 17:35.02 | Juerd | How can I restore the old behaviour? |
| 17:35.06 | MoDaX | nadim: I don't have problems with xeyes, gimp, kwrite or anything else |
| 17:35.12 | Juerd | I don't want to know my user's passwords |
| 17:35.19 | stew | nwonknu: do you have module-init-tools installed? |
| 17:35.53 | nadim | MoDaX: I don't have it with xeyes other but do with EDA applications (from cadence and synopsys, etc) |
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| 17:36.32 | nwonknu | stew im not sure |
| 17:36.33 | stew | nadim: what do you have in your /usr/X11R6 directory? |
| 17:36.48 | stew | nwonknu: can you check? |
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| 17:37.37 | nwonknu | lsmod|grep module-init-tools? |
| 17:37.46 | stew | nwonknu: dpkg -l module-init-tools |
| 17:38.32 | nadim | stew: in /usr/X11R6/ I have ' bin -> ../bin/' and 'lib' |
| 17:39.00 | nwonknu | it says module-init-to 3.2-prel-2 but it doesnt say wether its installed |
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| 17:39.35 | stew | nwonknu: does the line start with "ii"? |
| 17:39.45 | nwonknu | yes |
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| 17:40.07 | stew | nwonknu: then you have it intstalled, what cpu do you have? |
| 17:40.53 | nwonknu | stew its a laptop acer travelmate 8104 wlmi i believe the cpu is a pentium m 760 |
| 17:40.56 | stew | nadim: what is an example of an application you are having trouble with? and what version of that application? |
| 17:41.21 | MoDaX | nadim: I'm not X expert but I don't understand why some programs access X locale files directly |
| 17:41.31 | nadim | stew: anything from cadence, like icfb or signalscan or simvision, etc |
| 17:41.51 | nadim | MoDaX: I don't either - but if I add that symlink (per the bug) things are solved |
| 17:41.52 | g333k | Hi, do you if is enable the 3d acceleration on xorg? I remember I had problems a few moths ago because a upgrade |
| 17:42.09 | stew | nadim: then go to http://packages.debian.org/kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 click on the "i386" link, download the .deb, copy it to the system and "dpkg -i the.deb" |
| 17:42.27 | stew | nadim: are any of those from debian packages? |
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| 17:42.52 | nadim | stew: no |
| 17:42.52 | MoDaX | nadim: so proprietary stuff is broken. maybe they will fix when xorg 7.0 becomes more widespread |
| 17:42.54 | nadim | stew: I'm using 2.6.15-1-486 |
| 17:43.12 | stew | nadim: those packages probably need to be recompiled, i don't believe you have found a bug in the debian x packaging |
| 17:43.20 | nadim | MoDaX: doubt it - their answer has always been 'use RedHat enterprise and/or Fedora blah blah blah' |
| 17:43.21 | g333k | I mean nvidia + glx + xorg ? |
| 17:43.24 | eleftherios | when trying to install a new linux-image on Etch I get the error about initrd: You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image ... ... This will not work unless you... Any pointers please? |
| 17:43.31 | nadim | MoDaX: so I'm fighting an uphill battle here |
| 17:43.43 | MoDaX | nadim: fedora is on the same track |
| 17:43.50 | stew | nadim: i'm sorry, by "those packages" i meant "those applications" |
| 17:43.55 | MoDaX | nadim: rhel will also be sooner or later |
| 17:44.13 | MoDaX | nadim: the time will come! :) |
| 17:44.15 | nwonknu | what kernel does debian testing use? |
| 17:44.31 | nadim | stew: that is out of the question - we get binaries (like everyone out there) with no means to change anything |
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| 17:44.48 | plasmoduck | whats the command to create a symlink? |
| 17:45.02 | azeem | plasmoduck: ln |
| 17:45.08 | MoDaX | plasmoduck: ln -s |
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| 17:45.23 | stew | nadim: why should x11r7 provide data in a x11r6 directory? |
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| 17:45.50 | nadim | stew: the solution noted in the bug report - ie. me creating a symbolic link for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 seems more correct actually |
| 17:45.52 | plasmoduck | and to undo it? |
| 17:46.10 | nadim | stew: I don't really know - but there needs to be some backward compatability, no ? |
| 17:46.16 | MoDaX | nadim: isn't they using their own x libs? |
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| 17:46.54 | nbt | what KDM need to launch session ? mean it logins then fall back to longi screen--- |
| 17:47.02 | MoDaX | nadim: or binaries are statically compiled. in either case, debian can't do anything about it |
| 17:47.12 | nadim | MoDaX: I guess not, if they are looking for locale stuff in that dir... |
| 17:47.25 | stew | nadim: no. the X11R6 directory should have never existed. that is the bug. anything that is relying on it existing should be changed, its would certainly be silly for X11R7 to write stuff into an X11R6 directory |
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| 17:48.04 | MoDaX | nbt: are you on unstable? |
| 17:48.07 | Zvpun | how do I find out if a font (eg /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraMono.ttf) is 10646 (unicod) encoded? |
| 17:48.07 | nbt | no |
| 17:48.09 | nbt | sarge |
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| 17:48.22 | nadim | stew: noted and I agree, but to help those of us in this situation that require X11R6 (for backward compatiblity) can't a fake X11R6 be added to simply add a link to X11R7 ? |
| 17:49.02 | MoDaX | nadim: post a whishlist bug |
| 17:49.08 | jelly | nadim: you could do "cd /usr; ln -s . X11R6" and hope for the best. |
| 17:49.16 | stew | nadim: don't bother with a wishlist bug, its not going to happen |
| 17:49.26 | MoDaX | nadim: there may be other reasons why this can't be done (which we don't know) |
| 17:49.38 | stew | nadim: you can create that link if your broken applications require it |
| 17:50.08 | nadim | stew: will I be affecting anything adversly with that link there ? I thinking future upgrades, etc... |
| 17:50.18 | MoDaX | stew: is it any different than usr/X11R6/bin symlink? |
| 17:51.00 | nbt | there's a tool to get the md5 sum of a cd wihouth making it's iso first ? |
| 17:51.04 | stew | nadim: i don't think you would be adversly affect anything. |
| 17:51.16 | nadim | stew: ok, I'll go with it for now - thanks... |
| 17:51.31 | stew | MoDaX: i don't think so, that link should hopefully go away as well |
| 17:51.43 | nadim | stew: a note in passing... There are links in /usr/lib/X11 that are pointing at wrong dirs/files... |
| 17:52.12 | stew | nadim: which? |
| 17:52.21 | MoDaX | stew: I agree. but it's there for backword compatibility. so why not to expand backwords compatibility further? |
| 17:52.45 | Zvpun | how do I find out if a font (eg /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraMono.ttf) is 10646 (unicod) encoded? |
| 17:52.50 | nadim | stew: nevermind - its my new link that breaks this -- I'll work around it |
| 17:53.02 | stew | MoDaX: they were there to easy the 6.9->7.0 package transition, they should no longer be required, and should not be required for sarge->etch |
| 17:53.05 | nadim | stew: sorry about the fake alarm - I'll keep looking |
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| 17:53.29 | nwonknu | does debian testing use a 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:53.41 | pipeline | nwonknu: debian testing ONLY supports 2.6 |
| 17:53.49 | MoDaX | nwonknu: even debian stable use 2.6 kernel |
| 17:54.08 | stew | nwonknu: go to http://packages.debian.org/kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 click on the "i386" link, download the .deb, copy it to the system and "dpkg -i the.deb" |
| 17:54.20 | stew | just relized i had misaddressed that to nadim previously |
| 17:55.02 | stew | nwonknu: testing currently uses a 2.6.15 kernel |
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| 17:55.15 | nwonknu | so if i get that an just install it and its dependencies is that all i should need to do to go to a 2.6 kernel |
| 17:55.23 | nwonknu | so i dont need to mess around with gcc etc |
| 17:56.00 | raf256 | installation of usbmount wants to remove hotplu, wtf? |
| 17:56.03 | stew | nwonknu: you should already have the dependencies |
| 17:56.10 | raf256 | *hotplug. can my OS work fine without hotplug? |
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| 17:57.12 | nadim | jelly: that link (ie. "cd /usr; ln -s . X11R6") doesn't fix the problem - The files in /usr/share/X11/ are needed |
| 17:57.16 | stew | raf256: if you are on testing/unstable udev conflicts with hotplug now since it provides most of the same functionality |
| 17:57.18 | nwonknu | stew thnx i'll give it a shot |
| 17:57.48 | raf256 | stew: can I safly replace hotplug with udev? is udev "better"? |
| 17:58.02 | MoDaX | raf256: much better |
| 17:58.18 | stew | raf256: i'm guessing that hotplug is getting remove becuase you ARE replacing hotplug with udev |
| 17:58.22 | plasmoduck | whats teh command to copy all files and folders to a dir? |
| 17:58.29 | plasmoduck | does cp *.* work? |
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| 17:58.59 | stew | plasmoduck: *.* would only match files containing a ., you want something like cp -a * /target/ |
| 17:59.00 | MoDaX | plasmoduck: cp * /destination |
| 17:59.07 | raf256 | stew: the removal of hotplug is triggered by installing usbmount |
| 17:59.21 | raf256 | again: can I safly replace hutplug with udev, will all my devices work on udev? |
| 17:59.34 | MoDaX | raf256: are you on testing/unstable? |
| 17:59.40 | raf256 | MoDaX: yes |
| 17:59.43 | stew | raf256: probably. the installation of udev is triggered by installed usbmount, which is what i mean |
| 17:59.48 | raf256 | and on weed, but thats not revelant |
| 17:59.58 | raf256 | stew: well ok. I hope it will work |
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| 18:00.07 | MoDaX | raf256: I wonder why hotplug was removed long before |
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| 18:00.16 | MoDaX | err, wasn't* |
| 18:00.24 | stew | MoDaX: becuase he never before trying to install udev |
| 18:00.32 | stew | tried* |
| 18:00.44 | MoDaX | raf256: so install udev first |
| 18:00.55 | raf256 | critical bugs of udev ( -> 0.093-1) <open> |
| 18:00.55 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.58 | raf256 | O_o |
| 18:01.05 | MoDaX | raf256: and purge (it's important) hotplug afterwards |
| 18:01.06 | raf256 | this looks freaking serious |
| 18:01.38 | raf256 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361741 |
| 18:01.40 | stew | raf256: that bug is likely misfiled against udev, it should probably be filed against initramfs-tools |
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| 18:02.03 | stew | raf256: yes, in fact that bug was reassigned to initramfs-tools |
| 18:02.23 | raf256 | actually, udev have 7 grave opneded bugs |
| 18:02.25 | nbt | m where i can find growisofs need for k3b to burn dvd ? |
| 18:02.29 | MoDaX | raf256: this bug is fixed |
| 18:02.31 | stew | raf256: so you shouldn't worry about that one |
| 18:02.40 | raf256 | no, wait, they are "done". ok then |
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| 18:03.00 | raf256 | so I should apt-get remove --purge hotplug ? |
| 18:03.11 | ich | hi |
| 18:03.21 | MoDaX | raf256: install udev first |
| 18:03.25 | raf256 | yea |
| 18:03.28 | stew | raf256: just install usbmount first |
| 18:03.32 | MoDaX | then purge hotplug |
| 18:03.53 | nwonknu | stew i downloaded the file dpkg -i thefile when i rebooted and tried loading it, its says kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
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| 18:04.00 | raf256 | so hotplug is obsolete now? |
| 18:04.02 | torgeir | what is 'the debian way' to mount /dev/md2, when ulsata2.ko needs to be loaded first? |
| 18:04.04 | stew | raf256: no |
| 18:04.09 | stew | nwonknu: do you use grub or lilo? |
| 18:04.14 | raf256 | well it can't be used with udev. |
| 18:04.16 | nwonknu | stew grub |
| 18:04.18 | MoDaX | stew: no? |
| 18:04.22 | stew | MoDaX: no |
| 18:04.32 | stew | nwonknu: did it complainn about /dev/console? |
| 18:04.33 | nadim | stew: found a couple of more things regarding the X11 topic - I can solve my problems with 2 links within /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 (ie. "cd cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11; ln -s /usr/share/X11/locale . ; ln -s /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB .") -- could that be included in the proper release ? |
| 18:04.42 | MoDaX | stew: how so? |
| 18:04.50 | nwonknu | stew yes |
| 18:04.56 | g333k | how do you run a .sh script |
| 18:04.56 | g333k | ? |
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| 18:05.16 | torgeir | g333k: sh script.sh |
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| 18:05.19 | raf256 | # apt-get remove --purge hotplug Package hotplug is not installed, so not removed |
| 18:05.24 | raf256 | this means it was, or was not purged? |
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| 18:05.29 | MoDaX | imho, udev+coldplug depreciates hotplug |
| 18:05.31 | stew | MoDaX: how is it not obsolete? becuase it still works fine? there are quite a number of debian developers that would sooner amputate limbs than use udev and hotplug is the only other way to load firmware for drivers that require it |
| 18:05.34 | torgeir | g333k: or chmod u+x script.sh;./script.sh |
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| 18:05.44 | raf256 | MoDaX: should/could I install coldplug? |
| 18:05.45 | stew | nwonknu: /msg dpkg devconsole |
| 18:05.50 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. My debian router hangs up unexpectedly. This is not a software fault (I've reinstalled my OS, changed the hard disk). What can be wrong? Is there any way to investigate that? Are there any software/tools to test different parts? (I mean cpu, stress on ram or sth..) |
| 18:06.04 | MoDaX | raf256: coldplug is integrated into udev package |
| 18:06.06 | jade | for transferring files within the local network, i decided to install tftp ... netkit-tftp-0.17, was wondering if this was a good choice, or if there is a better tftpd ? |
| 18:06.11 | stew | nadim: no they cannot be included |
| 18:06.14 | raf256 | MoDaX: thanks |
| 18:06.31 | nadim | stew: sorry for being dense, why not ? twm already has a link there... |
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| 18:06.44 | raf256 | after installing usbmount there is no usbmount command, what the hell? how to use it? like I want by digital camera (USB storage) to be mounted under /mnt/photo |
| 18:06.52 | jemt | !mplayer |
| 18:06.52 | dpkg | i heard mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 18:06.59 | torgeir | how do I make init load a module that needs to be loaded before it mounts |
| 18:07.01 | stew | nadim: becuase the release will not contain X11R6 but X11R7 and none of the software that will be released with it will require the existance of X11R6 at all |
| 18:07.04 | torgeir | /etc/fstab |
| 18:07.05 | torgeir | ? |
| 18:07.22 | raf256 | !mplayer legal saga |
| 18:07.22 | dpkg | Mplayer is currently not in Debian because the legal saga surrounding its codebase has not been concluded. Unfortunately, upstream has not done due diligence with the licensing of their codebase, creating a need for ftpmaster or a representative to audit the codebase before inclusion in Debian. See http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/mplayer.html |
| 18:07.29 | stew | nadim: X11R6 will hopefully be removed from the fhs completely soon, and then it will be against policy to touch that dir |
| 18:07.30 | nadim | stew: so you're saying /usr/X11R6 will entirely not be there ? |
| 18:07.36 | raf256 | damn americans |
| 18:07.36 | stew | nadim: hopefully, yes |
| 18:07.39 | raf256 | and stupid licenses |
| 18:07.41 | nadim | stew: ah... |
| 18:08.02 | startxwhite | what command can i use to get a list of all packages currently available in *backports* with a brief description of each package? |
| 18:08.05 | nadim | stew: sounds like at that point one will have to do other nasty links - ok, got it -- thanks again |
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| 18:09.18 | raf256 | ok I have the usbmount, now what? |
| 18:09.19 | MoDaX | stew: oh well, hotplug is old software and not developed anymore. it was 1) slow 2) and udev+coldplug works better for me and seems to be cleaner solution to the problem than a bunch of shell scripts. |
| 18:09.20 | stew | nadim: nasty links, or fix the broken software that depends on those nasty links existing |
| 18:09.36 | raf256 | how to have an USB store media to be automounted into /media/photo when inserted? |
| 18:09.38 | MoDaX | raf256: are you using kde or gnome? |
| 18:09.49 | raf256 | MoDaX: well both.. what it have to do with mount O_o ? |
| 18:10.06 | raf256 | I just want it mounted there, I dont need no icons etc. |
| 18:10.13 | MoDaX | raf256: they have such services integrated |
| 18:10.23 | MoDaX | raf256: ah, I see |
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| 18:10.38 | raf256 | well how to do this on system level, not desktop-manager level. like - if I need it on server box |
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| 18:11.57 | MoDaX | raf256: afaik, gnome-volume-manager does this automatically without user intervention. I don't know how to do this with usbmount |
| 18:12.29 | stew | raf256: the ivman package will do this for you and not require a desktop environment |
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| 18:12.40 | raf256 | stew: thanks |
| 18:13.04 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.06 | raf256 | what the FUCK O_o ? |
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| 18:13.23 | MoDaX | raf256: newer ones will be installed |
| 18:13.24 | raf256 | why installing a mounting program results in removing a video player? O_o |
| 18:13.32 | stew | raf256: dbus-1 doesn't exist in testing/unstable neither does libhal0, they were replaced by dbus and libhal1 |
| 18:13.34 | raf256 | no, vlc is just removed |
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| 18:13.46 | MoDaX | raf256: did you do dist-upgrade? |
| 18:13.49 | Zvpun | raf256: apt-get remove somepackage vlc+ will help you understand why it does that |
| 18:14.02 | Zvpun | raf256: note the + and the end of vlc |
| 18:14.03 | raf256 | vlc+ ? |
| 18:14.08 | raf256 | ok |
| 18:14.17 | stew | raf256: apt-get install ivman vlc ; your vlc must be also very outdated |
| 18:14.27 | MoDaX | raf256: it seems like you're mixing stable/testing |
| 18:14.38 | raf256 | MoDaX: hmm.. a bit |
| 18:14.46 | stew | raf256: you should not mix stable with non-stable |
| 18:14.54 | raf256 | MoDaX: I have both in my apt-get sources list but I almost always use unstable |
| 18:15.00 | raf256 | no wait. I have unstable and testing. |
| 18:15.11 | stew | raf256: you still have stable packages however |
| 18:15.22 | MoDaX | raf256: ok, so did you do a full apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 18:15.32 | Zvpun | how do I find out if a font (eg /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraMono.ttf) is 10646 (unicode) encoded? |
| 18:15.33 | stew | MoDaX: i can tell you he didnt ;) |
| 18:15.40 | raf256 | MoDaX: I can't, on unstable it wants to remove my KDE |
| 18:15.55 | MoDaX | stew: I feels so :) |
| 18:16.00 | MoDaX | feel |
| 18:16.11 | stew | raf256: what version of kdelibs do you have installed? |
| 18:16.15 | raf256 | it wants to remove " kaffeine-gstreamer kaffeine-xine kdelibs-bin kudzu" |
| 18:16.22 | raf256 | I like kaffeine. |
| 18:16.23 | stew | kudzu? oh lord |
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| 18:16.26 | MoDaX | raf256: try aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 18:16.40 | raf256 | also xserver-common - wouldnt that stop my X from working? |
| 18:16.49 | MoDaX | raf256: I can assure you that kaffeine is installable in unstable |
| 18:17.00 | stew | raf256: xserver-common no longer exists in testing/unstable |
| 18:17.08 | stew | raf256: are you still running xfree? |
| 18:17.11 | raf256 | aptituded dist-upgrade also wants to remove my kde binary libs and kaffeine |
| 18:17.26 | raf256 | stew: no, Xorg. will that update install XOrg 7, does it work fine? |
| 18:17.41 | raf256 | MoDaX: ok I will do it then |
| 18:17.45 | MoDaX | raf256: perfectly fine |
| 18:17.47 | stew | raf256: what version of xserver-common do you have installed? |
| 18:18.05 | raf256 | Need to get 732MB/806MB of archives. OMFG. |
| 18:18.13 | stew | raf256: yes, a dist-upgrade should get you xorg7 |
| 18:18.22 | MoDaX | raf256: those packages will be removed, but will be able to reinstall them |
| 18:18.24 | raf256 | xorg 7 works fine? on nvidia |
| 18:18.31 | MoDaX | raf256: yes |
| 18:18.41 | stew | raf256: /msg dpkg xorg7 |
| 18:18.44 | raf256 | do I need to recompile nvidia driver after XOrg 6 -> 7? |
| 18:19.10 | MoDaX | raf256: are you using debian packages of nvidia driver? |
| 18:19.46 | raf256 | E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/ =) |
| 18:19.58 | raf256 | MoDaX: no, self compile nvidia.com |
| 18:20.11 | stew | raf256: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 18:20.17 | raf256 | how to cleanup /var/cache/apt/archives/ but I would rather remove some, not all |
| 18:20.29 | raf256 | I have self builded 2.6.16.19 kernel |
| 18:20.45 | MoDaX | raf256: then you will need to remove them and reinstall newer once. better yet go with debian packages |
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| 18:21.14 | MoDaX | raf256: aptitude autoclean |
| 18:21.18 | raf256 | MoDaX: I dont like debian packages for that - they seem to limit me |
| 18:21.25 | raf256 | I use self builded kernels |
| 18:21.32 | tmtb | hi |
| 18:21.41 | MoDaX | !nvidia installer |
| 18:21.42 | dpkg | methinks nvidia-installer is a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. see <nvidia-graphics-drivers>, or <nvidia one-liner> |
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| 18:23.10 | MoDaX | raf256: if you're building kernels the debian way (with kernel-package), you should not have problems with nvidia driver packages |
| 18:23.16 | mox | hi@all |
| 18:23.47 | raf256 | MoDaX: I do it my way, make install modules_install =) |
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| 18:23.54 | mox | anybody having problems with ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat repo? |
| 18:24.01 | lightcap | stew: any other thoughts on the mysql issue, the downgraded package isn't working either |
| 18:24.14 | Zvpun | mox: its debian-multimedia.??? now |
| 18:24.24 | Zvpun | mox: ??? i dont know, meight be org or something |
| 18:24.34 | lightcap | stew: and without dpkg.log I have no idea how I'd know what else got upgraded. |
| 18:24.38 | mox | zvpun: it changed? |
| 18:24.39 | Zvpun | mox: you could have asked google ... |
| 18:24.53 | mox | zvpun: tried, nothing comes out |
| 18:24.55 | MoDaX | raf256: is make-kpkg kernel-image kernel-headers && dpkg -i linux-image*.deb linux-headers*.deb much worse? :) |
| 18:25.02 | mox | zvpun:google is my friend:)) |
| 18:25.48 | MoDaX | raf256: nevermind won't try to persuade you :) |
| 18:25.48 | raf256 | MoDaX: it will create a .deb, then install it? it seems like additional work |
| 18:25.48 | Zvpun | mox: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main |
| 18:25.48 | raf256 | but then well the .deb is reusable indeed. |
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| 18:25.48 | raf256 | ok I will try |
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| 18:26.07 | MoDaX | raf256: additional work? module-assistant will work! |
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| 18:26.17 | mox | zvpun:thanx:) |
| 18:26.28 | Zvpun | mox: you are welcome |
| 18:26.43 | Zvpun | raf256: if one uses nvidia-glx one doesnt have to recompile |
| 18:26.52 | GNULinux3 | I am having troubles with nvidia drivers, My X start into a black screen...? |
| 18:27.06 | MoDaX | raf256: could `m-a a-i nvidia` be easier? |
| 18:27.08 | Mckillroy | Greetings ! I've got a strange problem with the cluster knoppix version of openmosix: I installed it from the CD image on a VMware server virtual machine. When i type many keys get doubled or tripled - this does not happen with a standard debian ionstall under vmware server. Any ideas ? |
| 18:27.10 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: I installed nvidia-glx |
| 18:27.27 | raf256 | m-a ? |
| 18:27.32 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: there is no nvidia-glx for etch available |
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| 18:27.51 | MoDaX | raf256: in other words, module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 18:27.55 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: yes, I installed it and the corresponding linux-image-2.6-686 from unstable. |
| 18:27.57 | raf256 | hmm ok |
| 18:28.08 | raf256 | MoDaX: it wget's the nvidia.com source? |
| 18:28.15 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: what card do you use? thre is also nvidia-glx-legacy for older cards wich is in etch |
| 18:28.26 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: nope dependancies from unstable dont match |
| 18:28.35 | MoDaX | raf256: no. there are packages in non-free |
| 18:28.42 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: I did that like 3 days ago, so it got to work. |
| 18:28.53 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: you did that for etch? |
| 18:28.59 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: testing, right? |
| 18:29.06 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: etch=testing |
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| 18:29.14 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: ok, I did it for etch. |
| 18:29.42 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: becouse i allready tried the nvidia-glx from unstable and it complained about dependancies... |
| 18:29.50 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: I added unstable to my sources list and installe nvidia-glx and some 2.6.16 image, since 2.6.15 is in testing and the driver module is for 2.6.16. |
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| 18:30.23 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: it should only work with 2.6.16, that would explain why there are dep problems. |
| 18:30.45 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: and i have 2.6.12 kernel |
| 18:30.58 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: get 2.6.16 from unstable then. |
| 18:31.21 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: what grafic card do you use? |
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| 18:32.00 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: you cant mix packages in between from different distributions, it tends to break...I have some older nvidia card, dont know the exact model |
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| 18:32.06 | wintix | i have two debian boxes. if i do 'ls /dev/hd*', the one shows only attached devices, the other shows all possible devices, whats my problem? |
| 18:32.17 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: christ, I told you I do use these packages. |
| 18:32.20 | Shadowcat | GNULinux3: you can, just don't expect any of the distributions to support you :) |
| 18:32.27 | jemt | Greetz. Is it possible using a console program, to append text to a file? Ie. /etc/modules |
| 18:32.32 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: It is not like I am using libc6 from unstable, that would be hell. |
| 18:32.38 | wintix | jemt: echo |
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| 18:32.52 | Shadowcat | actually libc6 is pretty stable in unstable *knock on wood* |
| 18:32.58 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: if you have some older card then read what I told you above: Use nvidia-glx-legacy that is in testing. |
| 18:32.59 | jemt | wintix: Append, not replace |
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| 18:33.29 | jemt | wintix: echo "test" > file <= That will replace all content of 'file' with 'test' |
| 18:33.44 | wintix | jemt: oh, i see, sorry, no idea then. |
| 18:33.47 | Zvpun | Shadowcat: that is all relative if you use 2 packages from unstable it seems more likely that people help you than if you have 50%testing and 50% unstable. |
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| 18:33.53 | jemt | wintix: Np :) |
| 18:34.04 | Shadowcat | Zvpun: how about 99% unstable 1% experimental? :P |
| 18:34.08 | Shadowcat | which is what I'm using |
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| 18:34.21 | Zvpun | Shadowcat: besides testing is only a set of package versions like a tag in CVS. |
| 18:34.40 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: ok i might try...at this moment, i used nvidia installer from nvidia.com, it worked when the driver compiled, but after reboot, there is only black screen... |
| 18:34.49 | BlueWater | problems here: my mysql-query-browser don't start!!! |
| 18:35.03 | blondie | aww |
| 18:35.22 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: whatever |
| 18:35.47 | stew | BlueWater: what version of debian? what version of mysql-query-browser? |
| 18:35.52 | MatBoy | Guys, I see this on a machine right now: hostname:54316 Bots.Canal-LaPaz.Com:ircd |
| 18:36.09 | MatBoy | In my opinion, it should be hacked |
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| 18:36.23 | blondie | MatBoy: what? |
| 18:36.28 | MatBoy | the box |
| 18:36.28 | Zvpun | MatBoy: so disconnect the thing. |
| 18:36.37 | Zvpun | MatBoy: and reinstall |
| 18:36.49 | BlueWater | debian sarge 3.1, mysqlQB = "lastest stable". installed it via APT |
| 18:36.55 | MatBoy | Zvpun, the strange thing is... no Send-Q and Receive-Q |
| 18:37.02 | stew | BlueWater: what happens when you try to start it? |
| 18:37.07 | cyzie | anybody using nerim in the apt ? |
| 18:37.26 | Zvpun | MatBoy: if it is hacked everything is possible. I would try to hide my network traffic from users if I could. |
| 18:37.26 | BlueWater | I am! Mplayer always has buggy installation, but works just fine |
| 18:37.40 | cyzie | BlueWater, ? |
| 18:37.44 | MatBoy | Zvpun, yes off course |
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| 18:37.58 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: after downloading nvidia-glx-legacy what shoudl i do? |
| 18:38.30 | MatBoy | Zvpun, do you have some things to check instead of the normal rootkit-checks ? |
| 18:38.32 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: check with apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy what kernel-package it needs and make sure you have the right kernel version running |
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| 18:38.41 | Zvpun | MatBoy: sorry, no |
| 18:39.00 | MatBoy | Zvpun, OK, thanks |
| 18:39.18 | cyzie | what is the different between etch and testing? are they the same ? because i see some ppl refer them as different "thing" |
| 18:39.21 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: nvidia-kernel-legacy must match the kernel version? |
| 18:39.21 | jair | MoDaX: Thank you again :) |
| 18:39.30 | stew | MatBoy: what process is connected to that connection? |
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| 18:40.27 | MatBoy | stew, can;t fogure it out for the moment |
| 18:40.31 | MatBoy | figure |
| 18:40.38 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: well, possibly |
| 18:40.43 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: let me check |
| 18:40.56 | blondie | cyzie: currently they are the same |
| 18:41.09 | blondie | cyzie: but etch will become stable, and then testing will have a new name |
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| 18:41.17 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: BTW first you should chekc if nvidia-glx-legacy supports your card by reading its description. |
| 18:41.19 | MatBoy | stew, there is no running process at the moment like ircd |
| 18:41.32 | cyzie | blondie, what do u mean testing will get a new name ? |
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| 18:41.50 | cyzie | so if my sources.list get stay with testing, i can stay in testing forever? |
| 18:41.54 | blondie | yes |
| 18:42.01 | cyzie | rather than i need to upgrade everytime if i put etch |
| 18:42.04 | blondie | but if you have it as etch, it'll eventually become stable and not change |
| 18:42.14 | cyzie | blondie, okay |
| 18:42.29 | blondie | MatBoy: use lsof to see what's running on there |
| 18:42.55 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: then you should apt-cache show nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6-686 or some similare nvidia-kernel-legacy package and check that it depends on the kernel you are running. In this case it depends on nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.15-1-686 that is you should install a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 18:43.06 | MatBoy | blondie, on the port you mean ? |
| 18:43.17 | blondie | MatBoy: like, lsof | grep :ircd |
| 18:43.24 | blondie | or lsof | grep 6667 |
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| 18:43.42 | MatBoy | blondie, eggdrop |
| 18:43.57 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: thanks |
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| 18:44.06 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: np |
| 18:44.06 | blondie | MatBoy: well that's what's using that port then... if tha'ts what you were asking c.c |
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| 18:44.24 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: did you check that your card was mentioned in nvidia-glx-legacy? |
| 18:44.43 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: i told you, that i don't knwo which card i am using, i should open the box |
| 18:44.45 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: you could also use the "nv" driver. It is open source but doesnt support 3d acceleration. |
| 18:44.57 | MatBoy | blondie, the load of the server was quite high some time ago.... DDOs |
| 18:45.02 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: lspci meight help you to determine the card. |
| 18:45.19 | jemt | I have installed gnome-desktop-environment - what codecs are installed with that? I want to be able to play practically everything, so suggestions on codecs I should install is welcome |
| 18:45.26 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: well, if the nvidia-glx-legacy has the same drivers as those in "nv" then i am out of luck, becouse "nv" keeps freezing MY X at 99% CPU randomly |
| 18:45.59 | lightcap | wtf now my ssh connection just closes before I have a chance to enter my password! |
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| 18:46.14 | stew | lightcap: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 18:46.15 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: nv is the open source version for nVidia cards. "nvidia" is the closed source driver maintained by nVidia. "nvidia" supports all nVidia cards. |
| 18:46.38 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: the card is GEFORCE 4 MX 440 |
| 18:46.53 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: and what does nvidia-glx-legacy say about this card? |
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| 18:47.15 | GNULinux3 | Zvpun: well, i dont know where that info is |
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| 18:47.48 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: install the package and look at the readme files in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-legacy |
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| 18:48.30 | lightcap | fuck, segfaulting... |
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| 18:48.49 | jemt | !codecs |
| 18:48.50 | lightcap | wow, apt-get upgrade upgraded like 8 packages IIRC |
| 18:48.59 | lightcap | and it's just fucked everything up. |
| 18:49.35 | Zvpun | GNULinux3: is your nick registered? Can you send /msg? |
| 18:50.01 | yang | Zvpun: yes |
| 18:50.08 | Zvpun | GodFather: ok, I'll msg you |
| 18:50.11 | stew | lightcap: none of the recent security uploads should possibly be affecting sshd |
| 18:50.18 | Zvpun | yang: wtf? |
| 18:50.22 | stew | lightcap: do you know what pacakges were uploaded? |
| 18:50.42 | Zvpun | yang: sorry, i was confused by your name change |
| 18:50.47 | lightcap | stew: well, that's what changed. how do I find that out without dpkg.log? |
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| 18:51.11 | errt | hello all! |
| 18:51.15 | errt | in msdos i do "fdisk /mbr" to clear master boot recordin linux "fdisk ???" |
| 18:51.25 | stew | lightcap: maybe checking the times on files in or /var/cache/apt/archives or /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 18:52.20 | lightcap | looks like libc6 was changed in the last couple weeks, according to /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:52.22 | stew | errt: "fdisk /mbr" will replace the mbr (lilo/grub) with a chainloading bootloader that chainloads the first partition marked as "active" |
| 18:53.20 | jelly | lightcap: sshd sometimes needs to be restarted after a libc6 upgrade (but this is usually handled in libc6's install scripts) |
| 18:53.35 | abrotman | !distract jelly |
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| 18:53.52 | lightcap | jelly I rebooted even... |
| 18:54.06 | jelly | sorry, that wasn't visible in /lastlog. |
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| 18:54.33 | antlarr | hi |
| 18:54.43 | stew | lightcap: what version of libc6 do you have installed now? |
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| 18:55.37 | lightcap | argh, how do I lengthen the Version column in dpkg -l output |
| 18:55.58 | stew | lightcap: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l" |
| 18:56.03 | lightcap | thx |
| 18:56.07 | lightcap | never remember that |
| 18:56.36 | lightcap | 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 |
| 18:56.55 | lightcap | ooh, wait...I think it's a UML issue with SSH |
| 18:57.01 | lightcap | tls or something... |
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| 18:58.37 | lightcap | okay fixed ssh |
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| 18:59.06 | Ireul | hi |
| 18:59.15 | lightcap | moving /lib/tls to /lib/tls.bak seems to do the trick...some issue with TLS and UML under debian |
| 18:59.21 | Ireul | please I'm not able to login from kde in my debian box: X11 restart after login :( |
| 19:00.13 | lightcap | though now I'm wondering if that had anything to do with some ssl issues I'm seeing |
| 19:00.28 | mox | Ireul |
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| 19:00.53 | mox | Ireul: any error mes? which branch are you using? |
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| 19:01.06 | Ireul | mox: unstable |
| 19:01.28 | mox | Ireul: check is /etc/nologin present |
| 19:01.51 | abrotman | Ireul: errors in ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 19:01.57 | Ireul | mox: no |
| 19:02.18 | mox | ireul:abrotmans post |
| 19:02.29 | Ireul | abrotman: may I paste it? |
| 19:02.51 | kronoz | i'm having a problem with debian testing, i installed it with this weeks weekly build iso but the last phase of the installer didn't finish, adding users and stuff, i can't log in to gdm, and useradd kronoz; passwd kronoz doesn't seem to work |
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| 19:03.10 | kronoz | as in a can't log into gdm with that user/pass |
| 19:03.23 | Ireul | abrotman: it is a dbus issue |
| 19:03.32 | Ireul | Failed to read directory "/etc/dbus-1/${prefix}/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory |
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| 19:07.04 | jemt | !w32codecs |
| 19:07.04 | dpkg | somebody said w32codecs was a package that is not in Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular (but proprietary) multimedia codecs, such as avi, wmv, wma, normally found on windows systems. Ask me about <marillat> or <debian-multimedia> for more information on how to get support for these codecs in debian. There is an article at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 about w32codecs that ad |
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| 19:12.04 | Johnny_5 | is there any way to get totem to play .wmv? |
| 19:12.16 | startxwhite | i run debian gnu/linux and would like to know what command can i use to get a list of all packages currently available in *backports* with a brief description of each package? is what i wanna do possible? |
| 19:13.35 | Cornellius | So |
| 19:13.48 | Cornellius | I want Debian and the newest versions |
| 19:13.53 | Cornellius | I need Sid ? |
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| 19:14.42 | Ronin | Cornellius: why do you want the latest? can you fix it when it breaks,and it will break |
| 19:14.54 | dylan_ | I am problems setting up a USB printer I own. Will somebody please mentor me? |
| 19:15.14 | Cornellius | Ronin: I like the new features of some apps. |
| 19:15.34 | Cornellius | I just want to know { |
| 19:15.38 | Cornellius | errr |
| 19:15.40 | Ronin | Cornellius: looked into backports? |
| 19:15.57 | Cornellius | `how` unstable is Sid |
| 19:15.59 | Cornellius | So |
| 19:16.05 | Cornellius | I can use Sarge |
| 19:16.10 | lightcap | the mysql issue was related to the tls uml ssh thing |
| 19:16.14 | Cornellius | and have the last KDE and Gnome ? |
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| 19:16.33 | lightcap | I moved /lib/tls to /lib/tls.bak and mysql started up fie |
| 19:16.36 | lightcap | er fine. |
| 19:16.38 | yang | Cornellius: sarge has 3.4 kde and etch has 3.5 kde |
| 19:17.03 | lightcap | junst in case anyone was interested in the fix |
| 19:17.20 | Cornellius | yang: I want a Debian system with the last sofwares. I go with Etch ? |
| 19:17.33 | yang | Cornellius: etch is a safer bet than sid |
| 19:18.03 | Ronin | Cornellius: even etch though isnt the latest, Cornellius why so stoked about the latest |
| 19:18.07 | Cornellius | yang: Ok thanks |
| 19:18.45 | Ronin | Cornellius: should point out that of the 3 #debian im in none of them supports anything other then sarge and some etch |
| 19:19.14 | jelly | Ronin: what's the third one? |
| 19:19.23 | Ronin | jelly: freenode, efnet and oftc |
| 19:19.26 | Cornellius | Ronin: I told you. Some apps have some nice new features in their last versions. I know that new does not = better all the time, but I just like to bo up-to-date. |
| 19:19.41 | Ronin | Cornellius: uh huh |
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| 19:20.39 | Cornellius | Ronin: :P |
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| 19:21.29 | itchi | Cornellius: Is it not better that you take an Ubuntu an lauch loud when it crash? |
| 19:22.11 | Cornellius | itchi: I'm under Ubuntu right now. Working like a charm :) |
| 19:22.40 | abrotman | so why not stay with it? |
| 19:22.53 | Cornellius | I like to try new distros |
| 19:23.00 | Cornellius | I have 3 HDs I can mess with |
| 19:23.28 | itchi | Cornellius: Play then and learn of it :-/ |
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| 19:24.11 | Cornellius | You sure people here are nice. |
| 19:24.25 | g333k | hi, how can I try if I have 3d acceleration enabled? I'm using debian etch |
| 19:24.39 | Cornellius | Nvidia or Ati ? |
| 19:25.12 | g333k | nvidia legacy drivers |
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| 19:25.52 | morex | Hello |
| 19:26.06 | Cornellius | g333k: You have nvidia-settings ? |
| 19:26.09 | morex | Got a question, can't find the answer with Google. |
| 19:26.09 | roxy_ | I got some kernel module I want to install. They've been build using make. Is there a debian way (I am using testing) to install them ? |
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| 19:26.20 | morex | I've got a brand-new Pentium D 820 system |
| 19:26.20 | LinuxMan | Ben Debian Icin LVM Kurma rehberi ariyorum, acaba siz gordunuz? |
| 19:26.22 | someothernick | glxgears -printfps |
| 19:26.35 | morex | And am wondering whether to install the i386 or the ia64 version of Debian? |
| 19:26.45 | Ronin | morex: do you have a 64 bit cpu? |
| 19:26.48 | morex | The Pentium D is 64bit but is not itanium. |
| 19:26.48 | g333k | Cornellius, nop I'm installing right now |
| 19:26.56 | Ronin | oops never mind, missed taht |
| 19:26.58 | itchi | LinuxMan: Which language talk you ? |
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| 19:27.20 | LinuxMan | itchi: I'm sorry, I copy it from #Debian.tr ;-) |
| 19:27.23 | itchi | morex: Which architecture have you ? |
| 19:27.25 | g333k | Cornellius, after installing how do I try? |
| 19:27.30 | morex | Pentium D 820 processor |
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| 19:27.46 | Cornellius | g333k: Terminal, type nvidia-settings |
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| 19:28.01 | morex | Thank you for helping... |
| 19:28.05 | Cornellius | g333k: Go to go, but you can set up you card there. |
| 19:28.19 | id3rfix | ChanServ on debian-it has left the power to bip a stupid boy, he think to be magnificent and big only because he his @ |
| 19:28.27 | LinuxMan | I search for Debian LVM Installation Ho-To! |
| 19:28.35 | itchi | morex: ia64 == Intel architecure 64 bit |
| 19:28.48 | LinuxMan | !tell me aboutlvm |
| 19:28.51 | morex | It doesn't have to be Itanium? |
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| 19:29.04 | morex | There are specs at http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/index.htm |
| 19:29.17 | itchi | morex: I not know |
| 19:29.36 | morex | Me neither :-) |
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| 19:30.40 | g333k | Cornellius, it didnt tell me anything |
| 19:30.45 | id3rfix | ChanServ never could think that this could happen and ireul just know this mode to do of bip |
| 19:30.46 | g333k | just show a box |
| 19:32.34 | abrotman | morex: ia64 is not amd64 .. very VERY different |
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| 19:34.50 | g333k | LinuxMan, in http://www.tldp.org/ there is a good one |
| 19:35.02 | Mazingaro | is there anyone using lyx, please? |
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| 19:35.37 | itchi | !tell LinuxMan -about selftell |
| 19:35.47 | g333k | Dont you guys see the Soccer ? |
| 19:36.03 | itchi | LinuxMan: The bot is verry usefull :-) |
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| 19:36.24 | itchi | g333k: Music day :-) I listen to ;-) |
| 19:36.26 | morex | Abrotman: It'll be ia64 or i386, seeing as it's an Intel chip. |
| 19:36.34 | morex | I thought ia64 was just itanium, though |
| 19:36.41 | abrotman | morex: no .. amd64 works pentiumD |
| 19:36.51 | abrotman | !em64t |
| 19:36.52 | morex | So should I use amd64? |
| 19:36.52 | dpkg | em64t is probably Intel's clone of AMD Athlon64/Opteron architecture - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Use AMD64 Debian (/msg dpkg amd64), or Sarge with a -em64t-p4 kernel. Found only on Nocona and Irwindale Xeons, or the latest Extreme Edition Pentiums |
| 19:36.58 | g333k | itchi, today there're 3 great soccer games |
| 19:36.58 | abrotman | !tell morex about amd64 |
| 19:37.19 | id3rfix | i got copy of log and if bip does not leave the ban to me i advise you ireul that you are too in #debian-it i go to the minister of communications and i left to a cop of |
| 19:37.20 | LinuxMan | itchi: Thanks, I don't use !tell here any more ;-) |
| 19:37.25 | itchi | g333k: Eveything could be are great, depending on you're interesting |
| 19:37.36 | id3rfix | the log |
| 19:37.41 | g333k | itchi, yep I now |
| 19:38.06 | itchi | LinuxMan: Yes, now it's not so dramatic, but some time (when we not know) we abuse here the bot while there are many conversations |
| 19:38.16 | kasimir | does anybody know if there is a package for Apache 2.2? It seems that apache2 is only Apache 2.0... |
| 19:38.37 | id3rfix | i wait his public excuse or tomorrow is last day he chat |
| 19:38.45 | roxy_ | what is the command to see the kernel module available and load/unload them ? |
| 19:39.02 | abrotman | id3rfix: what are you babbling about? |
| 19:39.24 | id3rfix | i never done nothng to be banned |
| 19:39.47 | abrotman | id3rfix: someone gave him that power .. talk to the channel owner .. noone here can do anything about it |
| 19:39.58 | LinuxMan | itchi: ;) |
| 19:40.00 | itchi | id3rfix: It could be are an error |
| 19:40.07 | g333k | what do I need to run the glxinfo or glxgears? |
| 19:40.11 | id3rfix | have you understood Ireul ?? |
| 19:40.12 | abrotman | /msg chanserv access #debian-it list |
| 19:40.57 | id3rfix | tnx of all |
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| 19:41.41 | kasimir | does anybody know if there is a package for Apache 2.2? |
| 19:41.51 | morex | OK looks like I should use amd64 not ia64, but that i386 will be most stable |
| 19:42.00 | abrotman | we said that |
| 19:42.01 | abrotman | grrr |
| 19:42.01 | morex | Thanks for your help everyone, much appreciated. |
| 19:42.07 | abrotman | kasimir: no |
| 19:42.08 | stew | g333k: if you are on testing/unstable, you need mesa-utils |
| 19:42.17 | morex | I know, I'm summarizing... |
| 19:42.18 | kasimir | abrotman... do you know why? |
| 19:42.26 | abrotman | kasimir: because you're not helping them finish the packages? |
| 19:43.02 | five0 | are there any tools that'll provide a quieter bootup? (i.e, not as verbose) |
| 19:43.03 | abrotman | kasimir: http://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/ .. browse there .. see if you can find out why |
| 19:43.18 | kasimir | thanks! |
| 19:43.22 | g333k | grrrrrrr how slow pastebin is! |
| 19:43.44 | itchi | g333k: Take another one, it's now some days so |
| 19:43.52 | stew | five0: you could use "CONSOLE=/dev/tty2" and have all of the messages go to another console |
| 19:44.10 | kasimir | (abrotman: Sorry if I am acting like a leech, I just have no idea where to go in this Debian world that is new to me... I still have no idea how to create packages (Not asking how, it is all in manuals I am sure :))) |
| 19:44.26 | five0 | stew: will it redirect All? |
| 19:44.30 | stew | five0: yes |
| 19:44.34 | abrotman | hehe .. dated 2/23 .. APR/APU 1.2 are in unstable. 2.2 is awaiting some final polish and will then |
| 19:44.34 | abrotman | be uploaded to experimental some time in the next couple of weeks. |
| 19:44.36 | stew | five0: /msg dpkg splashy |
| 19:44.41 | MoDaX | kasimir: it should be available really soon now |
| 19:44.45 | itchi | stew: hhhmmm, that looks what i need |
| 19:44.48 | abrotman | !tell kasimir about mg |
| 19:44.53 | abrotman | !tell kasimir about mentors |
| 19:45.01 | roxy_ | !module |
| 19:45.09 | kasimir | thanks |
| 19:45.15 | roxy_ | !tell roxy about module |
| 19:45.36 | roxy_ | !tell roxy about loading module |
| 19:45.37 | startxwhite | my fellow debianites: the answer is: less /var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_sarge-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 19:45.42 | g333k | after 5minutes I got my pastebin |
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| 19:45.49 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 19:46.07 | g333k | What does it mean this output? I run nvidia-settings and I got this: http://pastebin.com/724034 |
| 19:46.12 | itchi | stew: When we have no x running, some messages are send to all the consoles and i need to do "CONSOLE=/dev/tty2" to get it redirected to tty2? |
| 19:46.14 | amonbish | good |
| 19:46.28 | elvirolo | I'ù |
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| 19:46.40 | Edwin_Quijada | Hi! |
| 19:46.45 | stew | itchi: which messages? |
| 19:46.48 | Edwin_Quijada | I am moving from sarhe to etch |
| 19:47.07 | itchi | stew: Like firewall info, dmesg, ... |
| 19:47.16 | Edwin_Quijada | and I installed the xorg and Kde but this doesnt work |
| 19:47.25 | liran_ | would transfering a big file over scp be a huge impact on speed as oppoed to ftp? |
| 19:47.27 | liran_ | *opposed |
| 19:47.39 | Edwin_Quijada | I havent changed the kernel 2.4. Havent i? |
| 19:47.40 | five0 | stew: this is only available through experimental? |
| 19:47.48 | elvirolo | I'm using Debian Sid, and I can't launch a X session, whatever the chosen window manager is ... is there a log file i can have a look at ? X just seems to restart and go back to KDM when I try to launch a session... |
| 19:47.50 | stew | five0: there is a backport though |
| 19:47.53 | MoDaX | liran_: depends on the bandwdith available |
| 19:48.12 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, check it running: uname -r |
| 19:48.13 | stew | itchi: if you see firewall stuff its probably the result of /etc/syslog.conf sending stuff to "*" |
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| 19:48.32 | MoDaX | elvirolo: wait for todays update :) |
| 19:48.42 | itchi | stew: Thanks :-) i look to |
| 19:48.43 | liran_ | MoDaX: upload is about 14kb/sec, what would be the impact? |
| 19:48.44 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, but its probably that yes... etch is using now 2.6.15 |
| 19:48.53 | elvirolo | MoDaX: do you mean this is a known bug ? |
| 19:48.54 | liran_ | MoDaX: we're talking about 650mb file |
| 19:48.56 | MoDaX | liran_: minimal |
| 19:49.13 | Edwin_Quijada | g333k: I have 2.4.27 |
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| 19:49.24 | liran_ | MoDaX: ok cool |
| 19:49.29 | MoDaX | elvirolo: yes. the fixed package was in incoming |
| 19:49.35 | five0 | stew: these are backports for sarge? |
| 19:49.41 | elvirolo | MoDaX: ok, thank you very much |
| 19:49.45 | Edwin_Quijada | when I did the dist-upgrade it doenst changed? |
| 19:49.49 | five0 | http://layer-acht.org/splashy/ doesn't tell me much |
| 19:50.00 | elvirolo | MoDaX: this means they will be availible in a few hours ? |
| 19:50.01 | itchi | five0: Look on backports :-p |
| 19:50.03 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, :o ... how did you move? #apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 19:50.07 | stew | !splashy |
| 19:50.07 | dpkg | hmm... splashy is a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge all right. http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/ and backported pacakges for sarge are available here: http://layer-acht.org/splashy/ |
| 19:50.21 | stew | five0: i think the one that says "backported packages for sarge" are backported for sarge |
| 19:50.22 | MoDaX | elvirolo: yes. more info: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2006/06/msg00159.html |
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| 19:50.38 | elvirolo | MoDaX: thank you |
| 19:51.11 | MoDaX | elvirolo: you can also install dbus from testing if want this fixed ASAP |
| 19:51.14 | five0 | stew: ah, of course |
| 19:51.39 | Edwin_Quijada | g333k: Yes!!! chANGE the source, update and dist-upgrade |
| 19:52.40 | elvirolo | MoDaX: ok |
| 19:52.42 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, This is weird.... well install the new kernel manually |
| 19:53.00 | five0 | ah, found sid debs http://alioth.debian.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2248 |
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| 19:53.34 | affan | HI all, can you tell me how to install a USB digital camera? i cant see any /dev/sd* devices. HOw to I mount it? I can see the camera in "lsusb" though |
| 19:53.52 | g333k | OT- Are you able to connect to msn right now? I'm having troubles right now |
| 19:53.54 | dabreegster | affan: gphoto2 works pretty well |
| 19:54.15 | Edwin_Quijada | g333k: So I need to change my kernel to 2.6.15?? |
| 19:54.18 | MoDaX | g333k: me too |
| 19:54.23 | affan | dabreegster: but first i should be able to mount the usb drive right? |
| 19:54.49 | id3rfix | i am chatting with my nokia 770, he mount gnu/linux debian but there is not a shell i must to put x-term, than ogg vorbis and xchat there is not gcc, gdb, emacs or xemacs, vi, vim, ed, pico they have installed non free software as opera, flash and acrobat reader then it is only possible to use by user to use as / it is necessary to install flasher at our own risk |
| 19:54.56 | dabreegster | affan: Eh, think there might be a way to do that, but you'd have to search. apt-cache search mount camera or camera filesystem maybe |
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| 19:55.23 | affan | thanks dabreegster |
| 19:55.23 | cahoot | affan: not all cameras are mountable |
| 19:55.25 | g333k | MoDaX, thanks.... so we're are in the same down server... |
| 19:55.26 | sneex | any DFSBuild users here? Can I create a LiveCD on DebianPPC for Debian i386 targets? Or must I use an i386 for the base? |
| 19:55.39 | Hotdog003 | Hello, guys! If anyone's up for a stumper, I have a good one: I've been scouting around linux distributions for quite some time. I have an old Dell latitude CPt from the days where they measured CPU speed in Mhz, and all the distros I've tried (ubuntu, suse, redhat, mepis) EXCEPT Knoppix randomly freeze up at the hardware detection. Sometimes I can get to a login, but others (About 8/10) I can't. Is there any way to fix this, or is m |
| 19:56.06 | affan | cahoot: mine is a Canon A520... with a USB cable... not sure... should work in windows i think |
| 19:56.09 | elvirolo | MoDaX: great, it works ! thanks |
| 19:56.09 | cahoot | affan: still accessible via gphoto2 and frontends to that like digikam |
| 19:56.19 | Edwin_Quijada | g333k:What is better xorg or xfree86 |
| 19:56.26 | Edwin_Quijada | I am newbie with debian |
| 19:56.26 | affan | cahoot: oh wow. |
| 19:56.31 | dabreegster | Edwin_Quijada: xorg is newer |
| 19:56.32 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, If you want to keep suffering with hardware support keep the old kernel.... If you want to be happy.... get the new one |
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| 19:56.42 | cahoot | affan: canons usually not mountable in my experience |
| 19:56.59 | affan | cahoot: so should i install gphoto or digikam? arent they similar? |
| 19:57.04 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, Same thing.... I think xorg is a fork of xfree86... Am i right? |
| 19:57.04 | Edwin_Quijada | Dabree |
| 19:57.10 | cahoot | affan: three different models I've tested - works perfectly via digikam |
| 19:57.27 | MoDaX | g333k: even http://messenger.msn.com / seems to be broken |
| 19:57.39 | id3rfix | next s i flash the 770 |
| 19:57.52 | phogg | g333k: yes, it's a fork. |
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| 19:57.54 | affan | cahoot: cool! |
| 19:58.04 | cahoot | affan: *and* gonme handles them beautifully - autodetects and starts it's photoapp automagically |
| 19:58.16 | cahoot | gnome |
| 19:58.17 | Edwin_Quijada | what is fork? |
| 19:58.34 | g333k | MoDaX, are you in windows? |
| 19:58.42 | id3rfix | i umount debian installed from nokia |
| 19:58.45 | MoDaX | !fork |
| 19:58.46 | dpkg | spoon! |
| 19:58.48 | MoDaX | :) |
| 19:58.54 | MoDaX | g333k: no |
| 19:58.57 | affan | cahoot: i dont have gnome... i am using XFCE or fluxbox |
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| 19:59.17 | g333k | MoDaX, this site is not down |
| 19:59.19 | phogg | Edwin_Quijada: Xorg 6.8 is basically XFree86 4.4. 4.4's license changed in a bad way and Xorg kept the old license. Since all developers who matter switched to Xorg it is now the standard. |
| 19:59.22 | cahoot | affan: still accessible via gphoto2 and frontends to that |
| 19:59.27 | id3rfix | and i install my debian |
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| 19:59.45 | MoDaX | g333k: yes, but it is broken |
| 19:59.45 | g333k | Edwin_Quijada, use wikipedia |
| 20:00.04 | Edwin_Quijada | phogg: Thks!! |
| 20:00.40 | phogg | that's a feature dpkg is sorely missing! wikipedia fact lookup. Ah, bloat... |
| 20:01.08 | dabreegster | phogg: Get yourself a web browser that can handle URI rewriting. 'wiki foo' in elinks is bliss. |
| 20:01.15 | MoDaX | phogg: no. xorg 6.7 was xf 4.4rc2 with some bugs fixed |
| 20:01.28 | affan | cahoot: so if i "apt-get" digikam, gphoto should be installed itself as a dependency right? btw does the G in gphoto has anything to do with GNOME? coz i know digikam is a KDE/QT app.. so i was confused |
| 20:01.41 | phogg | dabreegster: but then you must still get the results to a random irc user. |
| 20:01.53 | cahoot | affan: gphoto is not a gnome app |
| 20:01.55 | phogg | MoDaX: ah, my mistake. |
| 20:02.14 | id3rfix | i hate this method to think gnu/linus as it is winzozz |
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| 20:02.48 | MoDaX | affan: don't be afraid 'g' letters :) |
| 20:02.49 | jsn | Anybody happen to know why PGPLOT (pgplot) the perl plotter (fortran bindings) isn't in debian anymore? Sure looks like it was in woody. |
| 20:03.08 | phogg | affan: sometimes 'g' is just for glib, or GNU directly. |
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| 20:03.35 | phogg | jsn: perhaps the maintainer dropped it. |
| 20:03.58 | jsn | There's no official repository of reasons, then. hmm |
| 20:03.58 | MoDaX | affan: not everything starting 'k' is for kde either. btw, they are dropping this trend in kde 4 |
| 20:04.26 | affan | MoDaX: thank God :P |
| 20:04.31 | dabreegster | MoDaX: Finally. |
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| 20:04.45 | phogg | sometimes k is for Kernel |
| 20:05.31 | id3rfix | i just write to rms to know if they can do what really have done, he said me that give my email to gpl violations what do you think about ? here is or not violation from nokia ? |
| 20:05.38 | jemt | I'm looking for a configuration tool for Qt - I need to change the font size for Skype - Any suggestions ? |
| 20:05.43 | phogg | To be fair, KDE has always had some apps which don't do the K thing. But it's always been popular to say KMyApp, for some reason. |
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| 20:06.15 | phogg | id3rfix: if you're going to troll at least use better english. |
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| 20:06.55 | imbrandon | lol @ phogg gc |
| 20:07.13 | jemt | !qt |
| 20:07.14 | dpkg | i heard qt is a cross-platform toolkit developed by TrollTech Inc, that works across UNIX (X11), Windows, and Mac (http://www.trolltech.com). To compile packages (mainly KDE) using it on Debian, try: --prefix=/usr --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 |
| 20:07.17 | MoDaX | phogg: I think amarok was the first one :) |
| 20:07.25 | startxwhite | phogg: be more understanding, some of us here had to learn english as a 3rd language! |
| 20:07.39 | phogg | MoDaX: don't forget noatun |
| 20:07.42 | abrotman | id3rfix: have you tried #debian-it ? |
| 20:08.05 | phogg | startxwhite: what I can make out looks like trolling to me. |
| 20:08.12 | id3rfix | yes ok, but what do you think about |
| 20:08.13 | imbrandon | MoDaX, and amaroK <-- still kinda used the K |
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| 20:08.36 | MoDaX | phogg: has it ever been usable? I don't remember when |
| 20:08.52 | phogg | What always bothers me about KDE is that amidst the K-happy app names they have KControl and not Kontrol. WTH? |
| 20:09.05 | imbrandon | heh |
| 20:09.07 | MoDaX | imbrandon: but the it is different. k is not the first! |
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| 20:09.16 | imbrandon | MoDaX, true ;) |
| 20:09.29 | phogg | MoDaX: it has always been as usable as the audio back end. So, if you're using arts (another non-K app) then no, never been usable. |
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| 20:09.36 | hjubal | hi |
| 20:09.39 | imbrandon | anyone here setup debuild to use distcc ? |
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| 20:10.30 | MoDaX | phogg: arts is crap and they are dropping it too :) |
| 20:10.50 | jemt | Is sun-java no longer available in non-free ? |
| 20:12.10 | phogg | MoDaX: I've heard arts was written in a week and then essentially never updated. |
| 20:12.41 | jemt | This is my sources.list file : http://powerzone.dk/sources.txt - don't understand why 'sun-java5-jdk' is not available.. |
| 20:12.47 | MoDaX | phogg: I wouldn't be surprised |
| 20:13.37 | MoDaX | phogg: I guess it was removed due to licensing issues |
| 20:13.52 | phogg | MoDaX: arts? No. |
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| 20:14.10 | MoDaX | phogg: sorry. not for you :) |
| 20:14.16 | MoDaX | jemt: I guess it was removed due to licensing issues |
| 20:14.43 | jemt | MoDaX: You don't have it available either? The license was recently become more "open" |
| 20:14.57 | Lamperi | well, i just apt-get updated and did a apt-cache search, it still found various sun-javas |
| 20:15.28 | MoDaX | jemt: it wasn't. it's still there: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java5/ |
| 20:15.29 | jemt | Lamperi: Really ? Hm, I'm using 'testing' - what are you using ? |
| 20:15.46 | Lamperi | oh, its only in unstable |
| 20:15.53 | jemt | MoDaX: Oh, that will do - thanks :) |
| 20:15.59 | jemt | Lamperi: Ah, that's why :) |
| 20:16.30 | jemt | MoDaX: What about a Firefox plugin ? |
| 20:16.32 | melao- | i'm using etch, and I used to have the cupsys-bsd and cupsys-client packages installed and it worked fine. After an upgrade, lpq and lpr don't give any output and the job isn't sent to the printer. When I try to install the cupsys package, lpq works fine, but lpr gives me "/usr/bin/lpr: Bad Request". On the server, /var/log/cups/error_log shows "ReadClient: 7 IPP Read Error!". Any ideas? |
| 20:16.42 | MoDaX | jemt: sun-java5 is kept out of testing because of licensing issues |
| 20:16.47 | jsn | To have a package in debian I must be a DD, is that correct? |
| 20:17.07 | jemt | MoDaX: Okay |
| 20:17.23 | jemt | MoDaX: There is not a .deb available with a plugin for Firefox? |
| 20:17.37 | imbrandon | jsn, or get a DD to sponsor it |
| 20:17.52 | MoDaX | jemt: sun-java5-plugin |
| 20:18.04 | Lamperi | it will install mozilla firefox too |
| 20:18.14 | jemt | Oh, fancy - thanks :) |
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| 20:23.32 | jair | guys exist a driver for debian, as iscsi initiator, to connect it with external network storage like san? |
| 20:24.07 | roxy_ | how can I get information about one loaded module ? |
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| 20:24.50 | jsn | I'm sure there is a DD who is just dying to put pgplot into debian. |
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| 20:25.59 | jemt | MoDaX: Is "ia32-sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_amd64.deb" both for i386 and amd64 ? The ordinary sun-java packages seems to depend on it. The JDK file also seems to depend on JRE which is odd - JRE should be included in JDK to my knowledge |
| 20:26.50 | android6011 | im having some trouble using "apt-get install xxx" and uninstalling certain apps becauseof errors involoing /etc/apt/preferences. When I try to apt-get install whatever I get "Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:26.52 | android6011 | E: Unable to parse package file /etc/apt/preferences (1)" |
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| 20:27.38 | jsn | ack, the package I wanted is in debian, just not for my arch |
| 20:27.39 | dabreegster | android6011: Check that file, see if there's any obvious syntax error |
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| 20:28.00 | xKintaro | How useful is debian on sparc64? |
| 20:28.25 | MoDaX | jemt: *_adm64.deb says that it's for amd64 only. JDK depends on JRE, because it's useless to distribute the same stuff in two packages |
| 20:29.06 | jemt | MoDaX: Oh, okay. But it states I'm missing 'ia32-sun-java5-bin' - but it seems to be available for ADM64 only |
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| 20:30.02 | MoDaX | jemt: are you installing the package with _i386.deb at the end? |
| 20:30.17 | jelly | xKintaro: it worked last time I used it. That machine was replaced with a pc however. |
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| 20:30.36 | jemt | MoDaX: Yep |
| 20:30.40 | xKintaro | hmm |
| 20:30.52 | xKintaro | I just can't find much on how well it will run on a Sun Blade 100 |
| 20:31.22 | MoDaX | jemt: add unstable non-free deb-source to /etc/apt/sources.list and use apt to install java |
| 20:31.39 | jelly | xKintaro: ask on debian-sparc list, or maybe #debian-sparc @ irc.debian.org |
| 20:31.48 | xKintaro | alright |
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| 20:31.55 | MoDaX | deb http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/debian/ unstable non-free |
| 20:32.14 | jelly | xKintaro: Blade 100 is pretty common, I guess it would work. |
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| 20:32.29 | MoDaX | apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-whateveryouwant |
| 20:32.40 | Codenut__ | is there native ax.25 in debian? |
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| 20:32.58 | jemt | MoDaX: Ok - I can always go back to 'testing' afterwards - thanks |
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| 20:34.06 | MoDaX | jemt: testing non-free and unstable non-free wont overlap too much, because you won't have many non-free installed |
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| 20:34.53 | MoDaX | jemt: and in case of overlap, you can tell apt to prefer testing |
| 20:34.57 | MoDaX | !default release |
| 20:34.57 | dpkg | from memory, default release is in /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Default-Release "<dist>"; |
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| 20:35.22 | MoDaX | jemt: where <dist> is testing |
| 20:35.42 | g333k | OT- Friends, is there a way to make a pdf from a html how-to? like that one? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html (I think the tldp how-tos are made in dockbook) |
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| 20:38.31 | adi | g333k: html2ps | ps2pdf |
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| 20:39.02 | g333k | adi: but from that kind of sources? or I need the html file locally |
| 20:39.08 | itchi | Gnea: Youre Hwaddr ^^? |
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| 20:39.33 | adi | g33k: you mean from a http source? |
| 20:39.46 | g333k | adi, yep |
| 20:40.17 | itchi | Gnea: Arg, your a bot or so? |
| 20:40.58 | liable | itchi: ipv6 |
| 20:41.01 | MoDaX | g333k: is it a problem wget'ing html? |
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| 20:41.08 | itchi | liable: hhhmmm |
| 20:41.26 | itchi | liable: That's looks a bit _new_ ;-) |
| 20:41.46 | jemt | MoDaX: Nifty, good to know :) |
| 20:42.19 | itchi | liable: It's looks not easy to remember the ip so :-/ |
| 20:42.29 | Hypherion | I have just done a fresh install of Debian 3.1 with 2.6.8-12-em64t-p4-smp..whenever I try to run an executable I get "no such file or directory" |
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| 20:42.53 | Hypherion | even though the executable exists |
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| 20:43.21 | g333k | MoDaX, is not just 1 html ... it has links inside to another pages.... I think its a doockbook file |
| 20:43.26 | liable | itchi: indeed |
| 20:43.53 | itchi | liable: Why make he it complicated that it already are? |
| 20:44.01 | Hypherion | venus:/usr/local/mysql# ls bin/my_print_defaults |
| 20:44.01 | Hypherion | bin/my_print_defaults |
| 20:44.01 | Hypherion | venus:/usr/local/mysql# ./bin/my_print_defaults |
| 20:44.01 | Hypherion | sh: ./bin/my_print_defaults: No such file or directory |
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| 20:44.23 | Hypherion | any ideas |
| 20:45.05 | liable | itchi: read a guide on ipv6, they thought we would run out of address spaces, so they made ipv6 |
| 20:45.28 | liable | !any ideas? |
| 20:45.28 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of herring, a little thermal paste, and 42 three-legged weasels. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 20:45.37 | liable | :) |
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| 20:45.55 | adi | g33k: html2ps "http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html" | ps2pdf - fileout.pdf |
| 20:46.03 | itchi | liable: Yes that i know, but i not understand why he use hex?? |
| 20:46.22 | itchi | liable: You're right, i have mis that info, in need to look a bit about it |
| 20:46.22 | Edwin_Quijada | I change my kernel to 2.6 and I get the error "Waiting for root filesystem" |
| 20:46.32 | Edwin_Quijada | Somebody has any clue about this? |
| 20:47.05 | liable | itchi: i dont really know anything about it myself. google will tell you though :) |
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| 20:47.34 | itchi | liable: Yeah, our best friend :-) |
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| 20:48.02 | liable | itchi: http://docs.hp.com/en/5990-7278/ch06s02.html |
| 20:48.11 | itchi | liable: :-p http://www.ipv6.org/ |
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| 20:48.17 | salamiman | hi ppl |
| 20:48.18 | itchi | liable: ;-) |
| 20:48.22 | salamiman | i have some problem here |
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| 20:48.33 | salamiman | i have indeed ATI drivers |
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| 20:48.52 | salamiman | but what was the command to open dpkg sxonfigure for xorg? |
| 20:48.57 | liable | heh |
| 20:49.11 | salamiman | i know i'm kinda a newbie |
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| 20:49.51 | itchi | salamiman: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?? |
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| 20:50.29 | salamiman | thx i didn't remember where did the dashes go |
| 20:50.31 | salamiman | =D |
| 20:50.36 | jemt | MoDaX: Weird. 'apt-get install sun-java5-jdk' is also complaining about unmet dependencies - I haft to install the dependencies manually via apt-get |
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| 20:53.37 | welp | anyone here use courier? |
| 20:53.40 | hesco_ | How do the configuration files for udev and hotplug get built on install. dpkg -l shows me ii for both packages. But they are both missing their /etc configuration directories. |
| 20:53.47 | itchi | liable: You'r doc is better explained ^^ short, but clear ;-) |
| 20:54.29 | RazaMetaL | hi |
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| 20:55.03 | liable | itchi: :) |
| 20:55.09 | itchi | liable: I'm stone of my link :-/ I get a cup of coffee |
| 20:55.14 | RazaMetaL | do you know a good guide to install one antivirus / antispam mail gateway using debian ? |
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| 20:56.21 | adi | g333k: html2ps -W l "http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html" | ps2pdf - out.pdf |
| 20:56.37 | adi | g333k: I think that should do what you expect |
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| 20:56.57 | prizman | hi all |
| 20:57.07 | prizman | i've got a wierd business for ya |
| 20:57.08 | hesco_ | Anyone here know about udev configuration? |
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| 20:57.20 | g333k | adi: I thought you were abandon me |
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| 20:57.30 | g333k | adi, let me try |
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| 20:57.58 | Gnea | itchi: excuse me? |
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| 20:58.01 | adrakoa | hi |
| 20:58.03 | adi | g33k: it looks nice, with clickable links in the pdf :-) |
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| 20:58.12 | itchi | Gnea: No excuse, you're bussy ;-) |
| 20:58.22 | prizman | i found a gentoo user which one said that debian is "big shit", can anyone make him to change his decision? :) |
| 20:58.40 | itchi | liable: Not so clear on the official website |
| 20:58.41 | mbishop | prizman: tell him to emerge openoffice |
| 20:58.45 | adrakoa | prizman, the time |
| 20:58.57 | prizman | adrakoa: time? |
| 20:58.58 | g333k | adi, its a good idea to do that right? there are many interesting how-to that deserve to be printed |
| 20:59.03 | beardy | prizman: No, let him be until he becomes tired of it. |
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| 20:59.28 | prizman | beardy: i don't think so |
| 20:59.39 | prizman | beardy: he's using gentoo by sth 'bout year |
| 20:59.56 | beardy | prizman: If he's happy about it, what's wrong? |
| 20:59.58 | adi | g33k, yes, I print such things at school where I don't have to pay printing costs :-) |
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| 21:00.36 | Stork_ | how can i set the permissions of a folder so that.. all the files in the folder are read only (except by root) but users can write files to the folder |
| 21:00.43 | jsn | I have X.org working now, but can someone quickly tell me what the difference between it and the former system actually is? |
| 21:00.52 | g333k | adi, is printing free in your school? you are lucky! |
| 21:00.57 | adi | g33k, I've just seen, that html2ps doesnt convert all of the links, some are still external ones, but that doesnt matter if you print it |
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| 21:01.07 | prizman | beardy: because he inslut the only one good distribution :) |
| 21:01.18 | adi | g333k, yeah printing is free :-D |
| 21:01.19 | abrotman | jsn: it initially was licensing .. now it's been changed a good bit .. mostly the modular X system is the important change |
| 21:01.37 | adi | good night everybody, I'm going to sleep now |
| 21:01.44 | jsn | thx, abrotman |
| 21:01.47 | prizman | if someone want to talk to him he's on nick "jacekowski" |
| 21:01.48 | itchi | !tell Stork_ -about permissions |
| 21:02.10 | beardy | prizman: You can show him Debian, but if he doesn't like it, it's no point in arguing, to each his own. |
| 21:02.16 | g333k | adi, :( I have to buy more ink |
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| 21:02.32 | g333k | adi, thanks a lot |
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| 21:02.43 | beardy | prizman: That's stupid, to tell a channel full of tards and trolls to /msg one poor fool. |
| 21:02.47 | abrotman | !tell prizman about why debian |
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| 21:03.34 | prizman | abrotman: can you do it with nick "jacekowski" instead of mine? |
| 21:03.47 | abrotman | prizman: doubtful .. just cut and paste |
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| 21:04.00 | prizman | abrotman: i don't want that he will know my nick |
| 21:04.13 | abrotman | so you want him to know mine? |
| 21:04.23 | prizman | nope |
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| 21:04.30 | abrotman | ok then .. tell him yourself :) |
| 21:04.36 | prizman | but he wouldn't recognize you |
| 21:04.40 | prizman | but me yes |
| 21:04.40 | prizman | :) |
| 21:04.42 | abrotman | i don't want him to know me |
| 21:04.50 | prizman | (hope you understand my english....) |
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| 21:05.40 | itchi | prizman: Reconnect with an facke nick an send it to him |
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| 21:05.44 | itchi | oela |
| 21:06.11 | itchi | There are no enought drugs in my coffee :-( |
| 21:06.37 | ricci007 | exit |
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| 21:07.20 | moyix | is there anything that works like tsocks (eg, preloads a modified connect() that does some extra proxy stuff), only for HTTP proxies rather than SOCKS proxies? |
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| 21:11.10 | prizman | hmm |
| 21:11.15 | prizman | where's dpkg? |
| 21:11.23 | stew | dpkg: hi |
| 21:11.34 | Edwin_Quijada | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:11.44 | stew | prizman: use aptitude or ravenbird until dpkg returns |
| 21:11.55 | stew | dondelelcaro: ^^^ |
| 21:11.59 | prizman | stew: have the same functions? |
| 21:12.04 | Edwin_Quijada | I have 2.4.27 kernel with sata disk and this run perfect |
| 21:12.04 | stew | prizman: yes |
| 21:12.05 | itchi | Edwin_Quijada: Is it an build one or an stock? |
| 21:12.27 | Edwin_Quijada | itchi: stock |
| 21:12.47 | itchi | Edwin_Quijada: Which filesystem use you ? |
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| 21:12.59 | stew | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 21:13.15 | g333k | why I'm not able to printf from xpdf or acrobat, but I'm able to print from open office? |
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| 21:13.31 | Edwin_Quijada | itchi: ext3 |
| 21:14.01 | itchi | Edwin_Quijada: If you take back that old, it's again working ? |
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| 21:14.20 | Edwin_Quijada | Yes! With 2.4.27 working fine |
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| 21:15.09 | salamiman | hmh |
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| 21:15.21 | salamiman | ok now my ATI radeon 9550 works, as ATI Radeon 9600 |
| 21:15.24 | salamiman | BUT |
| 21:15.39 | salamiman | my PC appears slower than with a RAM .eating SiS cards |
| 21:15.55 | salamiman | and Cromium still doesn't work perfectly |
| 21:16.17 | salamiman | where's the problem: i have a Sempron 2600+ and 512 RAM |
| 21:16.52 | salamiman | guess i nneed more ram... |
| 21:17.04 | salamiman | even my hard drive should be ok (ata 133 / 7200 rpm) |
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| 21:18.35 | RvGaTe | what is a good amount of hd space for installing debian as a secundairy workstation? |
| 21:18.42 | itchi | Edwin_Quijada: The entry in '/boot/grub/menu.lst' is it ok ? |
| 21:18.51 | beardy | !ig RvGaTe |
| 21:18.53 | Edwin_Quijada | yes |
| 21:18.56 | beardy | !ig |
| 21:18.57 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 21:19.00 | beardy | RvGaTe: ^^^ |
| 21:19.08 | RvGaTe | rgr |
| 21:19.19 | Edwin_Quijada | itchi: but it take hdg1 and it sata |
| 21:19.51 | itchi | Edward_TLS: Make a copy of that file or so and modify the entry ?? |
| 21:19.55 | beardy | RvGaTe: Depends on how much you are going to install, and how much data you are going to have in your /home. |
| 21:20.46 | jemt | Sun-Java is not available in stable nor testing - so I have created a .deb package with the original version of Sun Java2 1.5/5, update 7. If anyone is interested, please let me know - it can easily be installed using 'dpkg -i sun-package' - it is also easy to integrate into Mozilla Firefox |
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| 21:21.25 | RvGaTe | i have a 40gb hd spare... wich i normally use for download storage on for windows. i want to go dual boot, but keep as much space availeble for downloads |
| 21:21.27 | beardy | haha |
| 21:21.31 | vulture | jemt: um.. that'd be against the license agreement you agreed to hwen downloading Sun's JRE |
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| 21:21.45 | stew | jemt: did you use java-package? |
| 21:21.49 | vulture | jemt: That's why the java-package package exists, so everyone can create their own with a simple command - no problems with distribution |
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| 21:21.55 | jemt | vulture: Ah, ok - bugger. I didn't read it I must admit :) |
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| 21:22.06 | jemt | stew: Yes, I did - along with Fakeroot |
| 21:22.14 | beardy | RvGaTe: What filesystem is that download storage partition? |
| 21:22.26 | RvGaTe | beardy: currently on ntfs |
| 21:22.29 | vulture | jemt: if redistribution of modified versions were freely allowed, tehre'd be a deb for it (since java-package can already create it). That's my understanding of the situation |
| 21:22.40 | RvGaTe | beardy: but its empty, so i can format it now |
| 21:22.51 | vulture | perhaps there's some redistribution you can do that's too restrictive/questionable/problematic for Debian to deal with.. *shrugs* |
| 21:22.57 | beardy | RvGaTe: If you use fat32 you can have writeaccess from Debian too. |
| 21:23.14 | g333k | how do I send a range of pages to printing of a pdf file? (from console) |
| 21:23.15 | salamiman | i know.. this ubnuntu driver package sucks |
| 21:23.23 | salamiman | i'm trying hte official ati drivers |
| 21:23.39 | jemt | vulture: You are probably right. I just thought I would help others in my situation - but yes, java-package sure makes it easy :) |
| 21:23.41 | itchi | salamiman: On Sarge? |
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| 21:24.14 | dooglus | stew: I have the same problem that crissi had about 18 hours ago. you told him he was running a mixed stable/unstable system. How can I tell if that's my problem too? |
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| 21:24.31 | beardy | RvGaTe: Or, you can run samba (to act as a windows fileserver) and make it ext3 instead, if it's going to run Debian all the time. |
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| 21:24.52 | stew | dooglus: what are the symptoms? |
| 21:25.12 | RvGaTe | beardy: dual boot, mainly using windowsxp, and debian for testing stuff out |
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| 21:25.36 | dooglus | stew: I can't log in to XFCE4 or Fluxbox from gdm. |
| 21:25.40 | jsn | What's /lib/tls all about? |
| 21:25.42 | dooglus | stew: but startx works |
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| 21:26.01 | dooglus | stew: I'll tell you the error message - just a sec. |
| 21:26.05 | stew | dooglus: check ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 21:26.35 | dooglus | stew: ~/.xsession-errors says: "Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/etc/dbus-1/${prefix}/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory" |
| 21:26.50 | jsn | I don't remember seeing /lib/tls/lib* before. What is it? |
| 21:26.52 | dooglus | stew: I am running (or thought I was running) unstable |
| 21:26.53 | stew | dooglus: do you have a dbus-1 package installed? |
| 21:27.12 | whadar | hello |
| 21:27.14 | beardy | RvGaTe: I'm not exactly sure what the recommended size of a / (rootpartition) is nowadays, and if you are going to have a dualboot, and only install Debian to test it, perhaps one partition would be the easiest. But let's say you take ... 6GB for the Debian installation? If you are only going to try things. Later you can do it better, with atleast a separate /home partition. Let's see if anyone else thinks otherwise though. |
| 21:27.19 | dooglus | stew: no, but I have dbus, dbus-1-utils, libdbus-1-2, and libdbus-glib-1-2 |
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| 21:27.51 | stew | dooglus: ok, i don't know what causes that. if you had a dbus-1 package that would be a problem |
| 21:28.07 | dooglus | stew: I've not had one for as far back as my dpkg logs go. |
| 21:28.11 | RvGaTe | well, i wouldn't mind using 10gb, and 30 for storage |
| 21:28.14 | dooglus | most recent dbus install was 2006-06-21 01:53:46 status installed dbus 0.62-1 |
| 21:28.18 | dooglus | so I guess that broke something |
| 21:28.34 | stew | dooglus: check the bts for dbus |
| 21:29.02 | whadar | is it possible with any known file system to read/write to NFS and simultaneously read/write a ramdisk? |
| 21:29.17 | beardy | RvGaTe: Do that. But are you only going to use winxp to download things? |
| 21:29.51 | jsn | Does X.org use /usr/X11R6/lib? Sounds like a dumb question if you ask me. Of course it doesn't. What does it use? |
| 21:29.51 | stew | jemt: /usr/lib |
| 21:29.52 | stew | jsn: ^^ |
| 21:30.03 | itchi | RvGaTe: Best that you set fat32 or so for that 30GB so you could use it for the both OS |
| 21:30.07 | dooglus | stew: I don't know how to work the debian bts. It seems to just be a collection of emails. Is there a good reason why it doesn't seem to have a web front-end for manipulating it? |
| 21:30.07 | jsn | stew: thanks |
| 21:30.08 | stew | jsn: err /usr/lib/X11 |
| 21:30.09 | jemt | stew :p |
| 21:30.14 | jsn | stew: ok :) |
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| 21:30.35 | RvGaTe | beardy: im planning on using linux as a primairy workstation next year, i want to test if i can do everything in opensource wich i do right now in windowsxp |
| 21:30.35 | beardy | RvGaTe: Then it would be much better to run Debian, and use the 30GB as a /home partition, and store your things in your homedirectory. Anyway, what itchi said too. |
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| 21:30.48 | itchi | RvGaTe: There are many more good things to download for GNU/Linux :-) |
| 21:30.53 | calmar | hm. I have now a lcd monitor and need therefore to create a new XF86Config-4. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does not seem to help. any hints? |
| 21:31.07 | abrotman | calmar: why doens't it help? |
| 21:31.31 | calmar | it does nothing, it seems, at least not building a new config file in /etc/X11 |
| 21:31.40 | eastwood | md5sum |
| 21:31.45 | beardy | RvGaTe: Ok. Try with 10GB and see how you like it. Good luck, ask if you get in trouble. "/msg dpkg grounding", "/msg dpkg reference" |
| 21:32.04 | stew | dooglus: becuase we'd rather have a return email address for whomever is submitting the bugs |
| 21:32.10 | beardy | RvGaTe: And don't forget to make the datapartition fat32. |
| 21:32.51 | calmar | abrotman: it just provided the bash prompt. I try to figure further, |
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| 21:32.57 | dooglus | stew: ok |
| 21:33.00 | abrotman | calmar: try -plow |
| 21:33.00 | stew | dooglus: you might try this: dpkg -P --force-depends dbus-1 hal dbus ; apt-get install --reinstall dbus-1 hal ; |
| 21:33.06 | RvGaTe | beardy: itchi, thx, what ill do: 10gb debian install, some swap, and rest storage fat32 |
| 21:33.27 | stew | dooglus: that *might* fix stuff if your problem is that you have a confmiss on some /etc/dbus stuff |
| 21:33.31 | itchi | RvGaTe: You will love Debian :-P |
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| 21:33.44 | RvGaTe | itchi: i know i will, dont worry |
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| 21:34.43 | dooglus | stew: I found the bug in the bts - it's known and fixed already. all I have to do now is find a mirror with the fix in it. what's an up-to-date package mirror? |
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| 21:35.42 | Jippi | Anyone here has used khtml2png ? I got a little problem with it :) |
| 21:36.22 | stew | dooglus: ftp.debian.org? what is the bug#? |
| 21:36.38 | beardy | Jippi: Just ask, and tell us what the error is. |
| 21:36.46 | jemt | Jippi: Just ask your question - if some has, they will probably answer ;) |
| 21:36.56 | jemt | someone * |
| 21:37.12 | Jippi | khtml2png2: cannot connect to X server |
| 21:37.26 | Jippi | http://khtml2png.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=about its supposed to be a command line system only |
| 21:37.51 | Jippi | I have installed kde and all the modules there should be needed, but not sure what X-server it needs |
| 21:37.52 | RvGaTe | itchi: i normally use a debian server (i hate m$ servers, always getting in trouble with those), but never used it with a gui, apps etc... i used livecd's allot to see how linux is as a workstation, but just doesn't give me the right feeling... |
| 21:37.55 | beardy | Jippi: sounds like KDE to me.. |
| 21:38.03 | dooglus | stew: 374747 |
| 21:38.08 | Jippi | i dont got any monitor on the server, as its colocated |
| 21:38.11 | dooglus | bug 374747 |
| 21:38.16 | beardy | Jippi: Where are you running it? |
| 21:38.29 | Jippi | From a shell or what do you mean |
| 21:38.46 | beardy | Jippi: Yes. And of course, that wont work. |
| 21:38.57 | Jippi | " khtml2png is a command line program to create screenshots of webpages " |
| 21:39.18 | Jippi | isnt it possible to boot KDE on some pseudo tty or something ? |
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| 21:39.35 | beardy | Jippi: You need to install X, and use ssh with X forwarding, or connect to it by other means, and run it on the box, and display it on the box you're sitting at. |
| 21:39.38 | beardy | !ssh x |
| 21:39.45 | calmar | dpkg-reconfigure --force xserver... said: unable to initialisize frontend: Orce hm |
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| 21:39.59 | itchi | RvGaTe: It's now 1,5 year i have completely shoot all these M$ out of my home :-/ |
| 21:40.02 | beardy | !sshx |
| 21:40.03 | dpkg | i guess sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 21:40.10 | beardy | Jippi: ^^^ |
| 21:40.19 | RvGaTe | itchi: you choose for a stable network, good one ;) |
| 21:40.33 | itchi | RvGaTe: And better spirit ... |
| 21:40.40 | RvGaTe | itchi: cheaper |
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| 21:40.43 | eleftherios | is there a way to do a 'fake' reboot in order to test if grub works? |
| 21:40.44 | RvGaTe | ALLOT |
| 21:40.45 | RvGaTe | :) |
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| 21:41.23 | itchi | RvGaTe: Like i touch on everything, now, i'm realy _free_ to do what i will. |
| 21:41.33 | MoDaX | dooglus: get dbus from testing |
| 21:41.38 | beardy | Jippi: sounds like the program doesn't agree with it's description then, and is that in Debian? |
| 21:41.53 | Jippi | Im running FreeBSD; but should be more or less the same |
| 21:42.11 | beardy | Jippi: Why are you asking here then? |
| 21:42.35 | itchi | RvGaTe: It's not question of cheaper or free of charge, i have choose it for the quality, the freedom you have with it |
| 21:42.42 | dooglus | MoDaX: I can't do that - stew will tell me off for having a mixed system! ;) |
| 21:42.44 | Jippi | beardy, because it seems like the app is original for debian |
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| 21:43.30 | beardy | Jippi: Whatever, if you are not running it in Debian, this is not the place to ask. Try #freebsd. |
| 21:43.34 | stew | dooglus: mixing testing and unstable is not the problem, mixing stable and non-stable is the problem |
| 21:43.34 | MoDaX | dooglus: running testing/unstable at this stage is not so bad. though stable and testing/unstable would be insane |
| 21:43.37 | itchi | RvGaTe: Know you that there are +- 15000 packages in Debian? Yeah, really crazy :-) |
| 21:43.38 | dooglus | MoDaX: I'll just run X using startx instead of gdm - that's fine isn't it? |
| 21:43.48 | RvGaTe | i know itchi :) |
| 21:44.08 | RvGaTe | itchi: during my livecd experience i'd liked gnome allot, what do you use for your clients? |
| 21:44.19 | beardy | Jippi: But what I told you above may or may not be what you need to do anyway. |
| 21:44.32 | dooglus | when I try to update my system at the moment from unstable repos, it tells me it will remove update-notifier and update-manager. I don't think I want to let it do that, do I? |
| 21:44.32 | stew | dooglus: it probably just means the gnome-volume-manager / ssh-agent / and whatever else is started in /etc/Xsession.d wont be running |
| 21:44.45 | MoDaX | dooglus: I just suggested how you could fix the failure. today's update will have a fix anyway |
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| 21:45.22 | Juerd | I need help compiling a Xen kernel: Xen complains that the kernel "make-kpkg --append-to-version -xen kernel_image" generated is not a "xen compatible elf image"... |
| 21:45.45 | itchi | RvGaTe: Livecd are used for demonstrations, i not want to tell it's crap, but it's limited. It's very well an livcd, but you need to try a bit more that only an limited(slow) livecd. |
| 21:45.55 | Juerd | Alternatively, I would be helped much with a xen capable SMP kernel... |
| 21:46.04 | g333k | Hey friends?, can you help me to print from console? I'm not able to do that |
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| 21:46.37 | itchi | RvGaTe: Gnome to, Kde/xfce/enlightement/fluxbox. Never we see so many on $M :-/ |
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| 21:47.37 | dylan_ | Does anybody know of a good text to speech converter? |
| 21:48.21 | sclebo05 | searched packages.debian.org (and apt) , but cannot find anything to query dell server hardware for faults causing indicator light. is omsa required ? |
| 21:48.27 | itchi | dylan_: festival? |
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| 21:48.33 | dylan_ | itchi, thank yo |
| 21:48.34 | dylan_ | you* |
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| 21:52.26 | Bitz | is there a way to create a bootable image cd of current running state of system so it can be use for system recovery? |
| 21:53.08 | sid | dondelelcaro: "* [sid] (i=debian-t@tor/regular/sid-kerplunk): realname" , see there is some new reputation thing going on. Where users can get cloaks if they're "trusted" |
| 21:53.13 | infernix | Bitz: there's the dfs package (debian from scratch) but that snot exactly what you mean |
| 21:53.41 | CcSsNET | Bitz try a livecd |
| 21:53.57 | CcSsNET | but lfs is probably best way |
| 21:53.59 | sid | Serinity: You go to Submit Story |
| 21:54.05 | CcSsNET | distrowatch.org |
| 21:54.43 | sid | !tell Bitz about g4u |
| 21:55.00 | Serinity | sid, submit story ? thanks |
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| 21:55.43 | sid | Serinity: yes, it's on the left sid bar. If you're using firefox # Control F; then put in "Submit" |
| 21:55.55 | Serinity | I found it, thanks :) |
| 21:56.17 | Serinity | sid just hit / and type what you search, it's faster |
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| 21:56.27 | sclebo05 | Bitz: systemrescuecd is quite good |
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| 21:56.55 | sid | Serinity: good call, thanks I'll remember that. |
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| 21:57.04 | Serinity | :) |
| 21:57.06 | sid | Serinity: What is the story? |
| 21:57.29 | Serinity | Well, actually, it's more like an open question, I don't even know if it'll ever be accepted |
| 21:57.40 | Serinity | but if it is, i'll give ya the url linking to it |
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| 21:58.01 | eleftherios | I just noticed than neither my sarge nor my etch box have a grub.conf. How do we set the default kernel to boot? |
| 21:58.27 | Ronin | eleftherios: lilo? |
| 21:58.27 | MoDaX | eleftherios: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 22:00.28 | eleftherios | MoDaX, yes the daufault is '0' in menu.lst yet the 4th kernel on the list of kernels gets loaded.... |
| 22:01.34 | eastwood | maybe the titles arent accurate with the kernel |
| 22:01.42 | MoDaX | eleftherios: without a prompt? |
| 22:01.54 | g333k | Any suggestion to this error when trying to print from console? "Error: loop in printcap- hp2175@gaf1.gaf -> hp2175@gaf1.gaf" |
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| 22:02.42 | eleftherios | MoDaX, I can't see the prompt, this is a remote server |
| 22:02.54 | MoDaX | g333k: fix your /etc/printcap |
| 22:03.26 | g333k | MoDaX, printcap is not generated by cups? |
| 22:03.38 | g333k | MoDaX, cups is working good |
| 22:03.53 | MoDaX | g333k: yes, it is |
| 22:04.12 | MoDaX | g333k: do you have any network printers? |
| 22:04.31 | calmar | shall I use Xfree86 or X.org? any hints? |
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| 22:04.45 | MoDaX | g333k: have a look at /var/log/cups/ |
| 22:04.47 | g333k | MoDaX, the printer is connected to my PC |
| 22:04.50 | eastwood | x.org as far as possible |
| 22:04.56 | calmar | eastwood: ok, thankjs |
| 22:05.02 | calmar | s/j// |
| 22:05.05 | MoDaX | calmar: stable/unstable/testing? |
| 22:05.08 | five0 | any of you manage to get splashy on sid? |
| 22:05.09 | calmar | unstable |
| 22:05.09 | elliptic | what is the message of dpkg for a reinstalaltion (--get-selection etc..) ? |
| 22:05.17 | eastwood | definitly xorg |
| 22:05.20 | MoDaX | calmar: x.org definitely |
| 22:05.25 | calmar | ok, thanks a lot! |
| 22:05.25 | MoDaX | :) |
| 22:05.58 | MoDaX | five0: do you really want it? |
| 22:06.11 | five0 | MoDaX: i wouldn't mind testing it out ;) |
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| 22:06.41 | five0 | MoDaX: actually, what i was after was a way to make bootup less verbose, and someone mentioned it |
| 22:06.53 | MoDaX | five0: dunno. previous version used to segfault here. not sure about the latest |
| 22:07.34 | MoDaX | five0: so what is the problem with problem? |
| 22:07.36 | MoDaX | oh |
| 22:07.41 | MoDaX | five0: so what is the problem with it? |
| 22:07.56 | five0 | MoDaX: can't find the package :P |
| 22:08.07 | five0 | there are (broken) links to it for etch and sid |
| 22:08.07 | MoDaX | five0: it's in experimental |
| 22:08.19 | eleftherios | MoDaX, this is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/68653 |
| 22:08.30 | sid | MoDaX: update-grub |
| 22:08.35 | five0 | MoDaX: a single repo? or are you running experimental? |
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| 22:09.25 | MoDaX | !experimental |
| 22:09.25 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. for an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference |
| 22:11.01 | MoDaX | five0: it is not separate distro like stable/testing/unstable. it contains a few bleeding edge packages which dependencies could be found in unstable |
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| 22:11.49 | MoDaX | five0: add experimental to your sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install splashy |
| 22:11.53 | Presently42 | Hallo, debianers. X.org has recently decided to die. It complained that there was no file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. So, I created one. Lot of good that did.... It is complaining now of an MIT Cookie which it can't find. Using Sid. Any clues? |
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| 22:12.26 | elliptic | what is the message of dpkg for a reinstalaltion (--get-selection etc..) ? |
| 22:12.43 | MoDaX | elliptic: apt-get --reinstall install ? |
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| 22:12.50 | Presently42 | elliptic: Is that to me? |
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| 22:13.03 | elliptic | no not precisely |
| 22:13.04 | MoDaX | elliptic: or do you want dpkg -i ? |
| 22:13.23 | elliptic | MoDaX: no dpkg --get-selection et all |
| 22:13.25 | stew | elliptic: you are either looking for "selections" or "reinstall" |
| 22:13.35 | elliptic | stew: exactly |
| 22:13.38 | five0 | MoDaX: yeah, i know what it is. i just wanted to know if there was a separate repo, or if it couldbe found in experimental |
| 22:13.50 | elliptic | stew: reinstall |
| 22:14.15 | elliptic | stew: i want the same packages |
| 22:14.16 | MoDaX | five0: there is a repo at splashy.alioth.debian.org |
| 22:14.26 | MoDaX | elliptic: dpkg --set-selections ? |
| 22:14.48 | five0 | MoDaX: yeah, got sent to the wiki page, though |
| 22:14.57 | five0 | MoDaX: it's alright; i got it installed |
| 22:15.04 | MoDaX | Presently42: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 22:15.31 | elliptic | MoDaX: exactly but I want to know the explanation of dpkg |
| 22:15.36 | unix_infidel | rawr, how long has marillat been down? |
| 22:15.42 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Thanks. I'll give that a try. It's on the other partition, so I'll go. What do you think caused this? |
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| 22:16.37 | MoDaX | Presently42: this would create a proper Xwrapper.config. and make sure you have xbase-clients installed |
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| 22:17.14 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Alright. I'll give it a shot. If for some reason it doesn't work, I'll come back, hopefully with details. Thanks. |
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| 22:17.33 | norbert_ | question: I'm trying to use TeamSpeak, but the microphone is not working; I'm using ALSA and it is working with Skype |
| 22:17.54 | norbert_ | does anyone have a clue of what might be the problem? |
| 22:18.22 | MoDaX | norbert_: what's teamspeak? |
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| 22:18.27 | beardy | norbert_: Are you sure it supports alsa, and have you got oss emulation on? |
| 22:18.45 | beardy | !alsa b0rk |
| 22:18.47 | norbert_ | MoDaX: http://www.goteamspeak.com/ |
| 22:18.55 | beardy | !alsa bork |
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| 22:19.11 | eleftherios | sid, hm, I found the problem. update-grub finds some other kernels lying around and puts those in menu.lst. Then even if I delete them from menu.lst grub somehow keeps the old order (??) |
| 22:19.14 | MoDaX | norbert_: skype does not support alsa directly. it's working via alsa oss emulation |
| 22:19.20 | norbert_ | beardy: I think oss emulation is on; yes, it supports alsa |
| 22:19.29 | beardy | norbert_: Got a real soundcard? |
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| 22:19.43 | beardy | norbert_: Any sounddaemon running? |
| 22:19.44 | norbert_ | no, a crappy one |
| 22:20.02 | beardy | norbert_: Does it do hardware mixing, is what I mean. |
| 22:20.04 | foo | Anyway to rescan for hardware or something? Basically, I have a detachable battery and cdrom drive on my dell latitude c610. I took out the battery and stuck in the cd-rom drive. |
| 22:20.11 | foo | But, I don't see anything in the logs about it. |
| 22:20.14 | norbert_ | beardy: I don't know, sorry |
| 22:20.50 | MoDaX | norbert_: is skype etc. running? |
| 22:21.06 | elliptic | I have found it is /msg dpkg reinstall (thanks stew MoDaX ) |
| 22:21.07 | five0 | MoDaX: urgh, apparently it crashed |
| 22:21.17 | norbert_ | MoDaX: no, I closed down Skype, because it seemed to be locking /dev/dsp |
| 22:21.18 | beardy | norbert_: 'pidof artsd' and 'pidof esd', do any of them give a process number? |
| 22:21.20 | five0 | MoDaX: tux screen kept on refreshing (slowly) |
| 22:21.42 | norbert_ | beardy: no, neither of them does |
| 22:21.46 | stew | norbert_: does "fuser /dev/dsp" return a number? |
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| 22:21.57 | norbert_ | stew: no, it does not |
| 22:22.02 | five0 | MoDaX: i thought that removing vga= / video= from grub would revert the changes, but ihad to boot into a backup dist isnta |
| 22:22.07 | five0 | *instead |
| 22:22.24 | norbert_ | stew, beardy, MoDaX: I should add that I don't currently have TeamSpeak running |
| 22:22.29 | stew | norbert_: do you have the "snd-pcm-oss" module loaded? |
| 22:22.52 | rxed | how can I backup my firefox settings? |
| 22:23.01 | MoDaX | five0: splashy needs more polish |
| 22:23.10 | norbert_ | stew: when I run the program, it returns: /dev/dsp: 14438 |
| 22:23.27 | beardy | norbert_: 'lsmod | grep snd-pcm-oss' to find out |
| 22:23.36 | MoDaX | norbert_: ps 14438 |
| 22:23.48 | norbert_ | 14438 ? Sl 0:02 /home/norbert/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak.bin |
| 22:24.05 | MoDaX | norbert_: kill 14438 |
| 22:24.22 | five0 | MoDaX: seems like it :) |
| 22:24.33 | norbert_ | MoDaX: ehm, you sure? |
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| 22:24.47 | norbert_ | that just closed TeamSpeak |
| 22:24.49 | stew | wait, i thought the goal was to get teamspeak using the sound card |
| 22:24.58 | k31th | Guys i have an imap server running WU-IMAP on my centos server im moving every thing to Debian... I currently have curiour installed on that... Would it be easyer if i just put WU-IMAP on the deb box ??? |
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| 22:25.53 | norbert_ | stew: it is using the soundcard, I can hear the other people; the problem is that the microphone is not working even though it is in Skype; and TeamSpeak has no other soundcard or input options except what device I want to use (same for in- and output) |
| 22:25.59 | MoDaX | norbert_: you said you didn't have teamspeak running. I though it was a zomby process |
| 22:26.12 | norbert_ | MoDaX: oh, no... I started it again ;-) |
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| 22:27.01 | beardy | norbert_: What is the microphone's devicename then? fuser that too. |
| 22:27.08 | BankHead | I'll find out |
| 22:27.41 | stew | beardy: its the same, /dev/dsp |
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| 22:28.04 | stew | norbert_: have you gone through alsamixer and made sure the mic was unmuted and stuff? |
| 22:28.10 | netcrash | Hello , anyone know what module I have to place in the kernel to support this IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c7) Class 0106: ALi Corporation ULi 5287 SATA (rev 02) ? |
| 22:28.23 | norbert_ | stew: yeah... the strange thing is that it's all working fine with Skype |
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| 22:28.53 | stew | norbert_: skype could be messing with the mixer to make itself work however |
| 22:29.06 | MoDaX | norbert_: -> teamspeak is buggy :) |
| 22:29.07 | norbert_ | maybe, yeah... sigh |
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| 22:30.43 | anabain | does anybody know if can I obtain a list, alphabetically ordered but starting from the *end* of the word*, of words from a linux language dictionary? |
| 22:31.11 | azeem | anabain: sort -r sorts in reverse order |
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| 22:31.16 | azeem | so pipe you list through that |
| 22:31.23 | azeem | dunno how you'd get the list in the first place |
| 22:31.44 | anabain | yes, but I want the list, from aspell or somethnig like that... |
| 22:31.46 | MoDaX | netcrash: try sata_uli |
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| 22:31.55 | salamiman | i have a 3D problem |
| 22:32.03 | salamiman | with aTI Radeon 9550 |
| 22:32.20 | salamiman | i don't get good acceleration |
| 22:32.37 | salamiman | even Chromium las with it, Torcs lags, etc |
| 22:32.53 | salamiman | it's as if the card was not a 3D card at all |
| 22:33.03 | MoDaX | salamiman: you need non-free drivers, i.e. fglrx |
| 22:33.07 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Well, I got the config file back. Now, the MIT Key. Any clues? |
| 22:33.26 | salamiman | i have the fglrx xorg driver |
| 22:33.27 | Bitz | is mondi/mindi a good recovery tool? |
| 22:33.47 | MoDaX | salamiman: what about fglrx kernel module? |
| 22:34.01 | MoDaX | salamiman: lsmod | grep fglrx |
| 22:34.03 | Bitz | or would you guys recommend some other tools? |
| 22:34.31 | salamiman | no idon't think i have the kernel module |
| 22:34.39 | MoDaX | Presently42: is `xauth` in the path? |
| 22:34.53 | MoDaX | salamiman: stable/testing/unstable? |
| 22:35.01 | salamiman | ubuntu lol |
| 22:35.12 | MoDaX | salamiman: #ubuntu |
| 22:35.23 | salamiman | yeps but those ppl are newbies |
| 22:35.24 | Presently42 | MoDaX: I would think so. It worked yesterday. I'll go check. |
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| 22:35.43 | MoDaX | Presently42: unstable? |
| 22:35.44 | salamiman | i'll try anyway |
| 22:36.03 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Yes sir. |
| 22:36.30 | MoDaX | salamiman: how did you install fglrx-driver? |
| 22:36.58 | salamiman | through apt-get |
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| 22:37.15 | minerale | I need to recieve one *1* email in my computer right now really quickly, is there a 'mini' mail server that will let me do that? |
| 22:37.34 | MoDaX | Presently42: where is that error printed? to console or /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 22:37.44 | minerale | and by that I mean, It wil be mailed to someuser@my,current,ip |
| 22:37.46 | Presently42 | MoDaX: To the console. |
| 22:38.10 | ignucius | anybody here that could help me with a kde/kdm/x problem? |
| 22:38.17 | MoDaX | salamiman: apt-cache search fglrx |
| 22:38.39 | MoDaX | salamiman: there should be fglrx-modules smth for your kernel |
| 22:38.42 | Presently42 | MoDaX: KDM opens, I log in, screen goes black and brings me back to KDM. Thus, X crashes. When I try startx in a new VT, I get the message. |
| 22:38.46 | unix_infidel | how long has marillat been down? |
| 22:38.48 | salamiman | thx |
| 22:38.51 | ignucius | since the last dist-upgrade i cannot login to my desktop anymore |
| 22:38.56 | stew | unix_infidel: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 22:39.20 | MoDaX | Presently42: I see. install dbus from testing or wait for today's mirror update |
| 22:39.22 | stew | salamiman: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 22:40.10 | salamiman | those ppl are all newbies, who can barely type "xkill" when learning how to use Emacs |
| 22:40.13 | Presently42 | It's a DBUS problem?! Wow. Never would have guessed that. The update to-day will fix this missing Cookie problem? |
| 22:40.31 | Presently42 | That was to Modax. Forgot to append. |
| 22:40.40 | stew | salamiman: that's too bad. perhaps you should try a mailing list |
| 22:40.43 | eleftherios | can anyone recommend a fairly cheap Debian dedicated hosting? The one I have provides broken Debian installs. |
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| 22:41.34 | MoDaX | Presently42: cat ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 22:42.13 | thingfish | I wonder what that means in greek. |
| 22:42.23 | Presently42 | MoDaX: I'll go and look at what it says. I'll come back with some more information, hopefully. |
| 22:42.23 | itchi | Is the 'fglrx-driver' not present in Etch ? |
| 22:42.46 | itchi | I follow what dpkg told about 'fglrx' |
| 22:42.53 | salamiman | Ok in the repository htere are no flgrx in x*, lib*, kernel*, f* |
| 22:42.54 | thingfish | eleftherios: is that just a common greek name, or is it a word (your nick)? Sorry for the curiousity. |
| 22:42.54 | MoDaX | itchi: seems not |
| 22:42.56 | stew | itchi: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:43.09 | MoDaX | salamiman: fglrx |
| 22:43.09 | stew | salamiman: talk to #ubuntu |
| 22:43.15 | MoDaX | :) |
| 22:43.16 | eleftherios | thingfish, it is a greek name, fairly common |
| 22:43.29 | hjubal | bye |
| 22:43.34 | MoDaX | salamiman: not flgrx |
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| 22:43.49 | thingfish | ah, thanks eleftherios. :) |
| 22:43.51 | itchi | stew: Yes i know but i did '/msg dpkg ati' and follow his intructions. But he tell that i need to install fglrx-driver, but it's looks not in the repo :-/ |
| 22:43.55 | eleftherios | thingfish, it means 'free' (as in freedom) |
| 22:44.01 | eleftherios | thingfish, it is my first name |
| 22:44.05 | thingfish | eleftherios: cool! |
| 22:44.08 | thingfish | neat |
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| 22:44.29 | thingfish | where in greece do you live, eleftherios? North, or south, or middle? |
| 22:44.34 | stew | the guy doing rosegarden uploads for me has "Free" for a first name as well |
| 22:44.48 | azeem | stew: but his last name rocks! |
| 22:44.49 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:44.52 | eligor | had anyone try to install a wirelesscard on a 486/100Mhz laptop? i want to do that but dont know if its works ... |
| 22:44.58 | eleftherios | thingfish, up north by the coast |
| 22:45.08 | stew | azeem: yeah |
| 22:45.33 | thingfish | eleftherios: neat. near mt. athos maybe? :) |
| 22:46.06 | beardy | eligor: PCI? ISA? |
| 22:46.06 | eleftherios | thingfish, no, I am north east :-) |
| 22:46.14 | eleftherios | ah, my server is offline :-( |
| 22:46.14 | thingfish | oh |
| 22:46.22 | thingfish | fun |
| 22:46.39 | eligor | PCMCIA |
| 22:46.40 | thingfish | must be a windows server ;) |
| 22:46.40 | beardy | eligor: If it got the correct free slot, shouldn't be a problem. |
| 22:46.57 | beardy | eligor: pop it in and see? |
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| 22:47.28 | rxed | how can I backup my firefox settings? |
| 22:47.39 | eligor | i dont have some thats the next prob ;-) |
| 22:47.46 | beardy | eligor: But you probably have to fight with it a bit, if it demnads drivers that are special, or not in the kernel. |
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| 22:47.59 | eligor | want ask maybe a wireless dont work on such old computer |
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| 22:48.29 | beardy | eligor: Why shouldn't it? If it's real card and not some emulated crap. |
| 22:48.31 | itchi | Why is fglrx-driver in Unstable and not in Etch ? |
| 22:48.33 | MoDaX | rxed: tar cfvz firefox-settings.tar.gz ~/.firefox |
| 22:48.49 | rxed | MoDaX: I don't want to backup the entire folder, just the settings. |
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| 22:49.17 | itchi | I does not matter if i need to wait, but if it could, i want to know why it's not there |
| 22:49.30 | eligor | dont know wat is the minumequitment |
| 22:49.57 | eligor | okay so i try one... thx |
| 22:50.05 | itchi | eligor: Most time it's noted on the package(box) of the new hardware |
| 22:50.17 | eleftherios | can anyone recommend a fairly cheap Debian dedicated hosting? |
| 22:51.04 | MoDaX | rxed: I would say that whole folder is settings (except plugins and cache) |
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| 22:51.31 | rxed | MoDaX: I have firefox bin in there. it can't be just settings. |
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| 22:51.55 | MoDaX | rxed: ~/.firefox not ~/firefox |
| 22:51.59 | jelly-home | eleftherios: I used serverbeach a few years back. |
| 22:52.12 | rxed | MoDaX: I don't have .firefox, just ~/firefox dir. |
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| 22:52.29 | Presently42 | MoDaX: It certainly is a problem with DBUS. I appologies for sounding so un-believing. You clearly know your stuff. Any ideas when it will be updated? I believe it's usually around now. |
| 22:54.02 | minerale | is there a easy to use smtp server? I need to receive just one email |
| 22:54.08 | MoDaX | Presently42: it is already there on ftp.debian.org |
| 22:54.32 | eleftherios | jelly-home, I will check their site, thank you |
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| 22:54.39 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Nice. I'll update from here and startx from there. Thanks much. |
| 22:54.48 | rvgate | itchi: well, here i am |
| 22:55.01 | rvgate | itchi: currently on kde |
| 22:55.15 | MoDaX | Presently42: you need dbus 0.6.2-2 |
| 22:55.30 | itchi | rvgate: Welcome @ home :-) |
| 22:55.44 | Presently42 | MoDaX: Thanks. I'll make sure that's the one I get. |
| 22:55.46 | rvgate | well, i imidiatly have a question :P |
| 22:55.55 | MoDaX | rxed: ls -l ~/.firefox |
| 22:56.10 | itchi | rvgate: Ask ;-) |
| 22:56.26 | rvgate | kde and gnome only allow my monitor to display at 800x600 (not higher), and its capable of doing 1280x1024 |
| 22:56.40 | MoDaX | rxed: dot dir/files are treated as "hidden" on *nix |
| 22:56.42 | eleftherios | jelly-home, they are very expensive with prices starting at $119, my current server is AMD 2000+, 256 MB, 40GB drive, 200GB traffic each month for $29.95 per month |
| 22:56.52 | itchi | rvgate: Try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 22:57.17 | itchi | rvgate: And there select the resolution you want |
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| 22:58.34 | itchi | rvgate: BTW. Look the file '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' |
| 22:59.07 | rvgate | itchi, it gives me a list of display drivers... i have a nvidia gfx card... which one should i select? (i selected nv on installation) |
| 22:59.27 | Presently42 | MaDoX: Ok. I'll go and poke X and DBUS with a login stick. If it doesn't work, I'll be back. If not, thanks much. |
| 23:00.00 | itchi | rvgate: You probably not have 3D. The nv driver not provide 3D, you need to download the driver and install it. |
| 23:00.28 | itchi | rvgate: For the moment take the same nv then |
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| 23:00.58 | WoodyWoodpecker | If I enter my username I get: "Configuration error - Element MD5_CRYPT_ENAB' unknown" Somebody seen this before? What can I do against it? |
| 23:01.02 | rvgate | itchi: video card bus identifyer? what should i put? |
| 23:01.20 | itchi | rvgate: Nothing if you only have one gfx card in the computer |
| 23:01.22 | WoodyWoodpecker | rvalles: Try Blank |
| 23:02.52 | itchi | rvgate: For after, try '/msg dpkg nvidia' |
| 23:03.02 | jelly-home | eleftherios: Yes, sorry. Actually they're starting at $99, but that's not really comparable to your $30. Then again, they were quite reliable. Funny, their prices haven't changed since 2-3 years ago. Or maybe they went up. |
| 23:03.26 | itchi | rvgate: Just type in you're client what are between ' ' |
| 23:03.27 | nanotube | Hello, I canot find solution for my problem with USB Mass storage device, kernel seems to have a problem during a boot time to recognize my USB and gives me stack of error messages like this: usb 3-6: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4, then I need to unplug it and plug it again and everything is fine! I idea? Thanks |
| 23:03.36 | rvgate | I did the reconfigure, selected the resolution i wanted... now how do i enable it? |
| 23:03.56 | rvgate | or is it now listed in kde |
| 23:04.15 | itchi | rvgate: Probably you need to restart the x server (_No_ reboot). As root user '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' |
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| 23:06.52 | jelly-home | dpkg, how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if the woodchuck could chuck wood? |
| 23:06.53 | itchi | nanotube: I think because somethings other is alread loaded an interfere with it ? |
| 23:06.58 | rvgate | itchi: worked like a charm |
| 23:07.06 | rvgate | thx |
| 23:07.14 | itchi | rvgate: Wait, it's going to work better ;-) |
| 23:07.22 | rvgate | it is? |
| 23:07.26 | itchi | rvgate: Once you're setup you're whole system :-) |
| 23:07.37 | rvgate | ... |
| 23:07.39 | rvgate | :) |
| 23:07.57 | rvgate | next step... sound |
| 23:08.14 | itchi | !alsa-checklist |
| 23:08.15 | dpkg | it has been said that alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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| 23:08.30 | nanotube | itchi: thanks, how do I fix it? I mean how do I find out what is already loaded? |
| 23:08.49 | itchi | nanotube: Looking to the log file /var/log/... ?? |
| 23:09.06 | itchi | rvgate: Tell me were you're fail or so? |
| 23:09.20 | beardy | !mismite jelly-home |
| 23:09.21 | dpkg | jelly-home: You are a pain in the backside, sir! |
| 23:10.19 | nanotube | itchi: OK I'll investigate.. at least now I know what I'm looking for..thanks |
| 23:10.37 | itchi | nanotube: It's simply to do |
| 23:11.26 | mbishop | simple* |
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| 23:12.19 | jelly-home | beardy: I think every bot should have a snappy answer to that. |
| 23:12.20 | itchi | mbishop: I'm the _best_ to write faults and typo's :-/ |
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| 23:16.11 | jelly-home | beardy: hardcode the whole conversation, then. |
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| 23:16.39 | beardy | jelly-home: It's not mine. |
| 23:16.39 | OleMoudi | I just got lm-sensors to work for the very first time. What's a tipical idle cpu temperature for a pentium IV 3ghz ? Its on 54C/130F |
| 23:16.40 | abrotman | OleMoudi: check the docs at intel.com |
| 23:16.40 | abrotman | or ask #hardware |
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| 23:16.42 | OleMoudi | ok |
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| 23:19.27 | mdupont | OMG, i have somehow remvoved my /etc/init.d/rc of a standard debian install |
| 23:19.32 | mdupont | please help |
| 23:20.27 | MoDaX | mdupont: apt-get --reinstall install sysv-rc |
| 23:20.32 | azeem | mdupont: unstable? |
| 23:20.37 | rvgate | hm... no firefox for debian? (apt-get install firefox) |
| 23:20.42 | five0 | mdupont: sid? |
| 23:20.51 | azeem | rvgate: mozilla-firefox |
| 23:21.15 | rvgate | ofcourse... |
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| 23:22.23 | itchi | rvgate: It's good to first try an search on an package you want 'apt-cache search what_you_search'. So you know what available about what_you_search |
| 23:23.26 | itchi | rvgate: Try i ^^ |
| 23:23.42 | litage | what does the "+" sign mean?: -rwxr-x---+ 1 root root 227168 Nov 2 2005 /usr/bin/wget |
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| 23:24.05 | five0 | chattr |
| 23:24.47 | five0 | litage: system immutable file? |
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| 23:28.34 | phogg | five0: setting immutable doesn't do that on my system |
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| 23:29.30 | hardwarehank | anyone here familiar with LVM? |
| 23:29.44 | phogg | hardwarehank: vaguely |
| 23:29.47 | azeem | hardwarehank: try to ask more specific questions |
| 23:30.00 | five0 | hardwarehank: i'm familiar with it's existence ;) |
| 23:30.21 | hardwarehank | sorry...so I installed ubuntu and configured the root partition to be on an LVM group |
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| 23:30.38 | phogg | over my head already. Sigh. |
| 23:30.41 | hardwarehank | now I can't seem to mount my boot partition because it says its in use |
| 23:30.42 | Ronin | hardwarehank: #ubuntu :) |
| 23:31.12 | hardwarehank | i run sarge at home...ubuntu sucks |
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| 23:33.31 | ScottishPig | Ruddy poop. Can anybody lend me some advice on soundcard setup. ABSOLUTELY no problems on a fresh clean install... no net troubles... just sound? |
| 23:33.43 | ScottishPig | /dev/dsp == no device found. |
| 23:33.52 | thingfish | in gnome, what is the little upper-right-hand area called, where the clock appears etc.? |
| 23:34.06 | azeem | ScottishPig: what version of Debian and what version of the kernel? |
| 23:34.06 | PumpkinPie | Hi.. this started happening for NO reason.. and I used to be able to SSH before.. now I get this: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 23:34.25 | itchi | thingfish: noticication Area |
| 23:34.32 | five0 | PumpkinPie: could be many things |
| 23:34.33 | itchi | thingfish: notification Area |
| 23:34.36 | azeem | itchi: no |
| 23:34.41 | ScottishPig | azeem, Debian 3.1 ... default kernel. Lemme look |
| 23:34.51 | thingfish | hey thank you, itchi. |
| 23:34.53 | azeem | the clock is not in the notification area |
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| 23:34.58 | azeem | it's just on the panel, AFAIK |
| 23:35.06 | five0 | PumpkinPie: hosts.deny, sshd_config with PermitEmptyPasswords no etc. |
| 23:35.30 | PumpkinPie | five0: but why would it do this suddenly? |
| 23:35.34 | thingfish | azeem: well it seems to be in a "protected" area that you can't drag things to. |
| 23:35.35 | PumpkinPie | five0: nothing has changed |
| 23:35.41 | azeem | ScottishPig: uname -r |
| 23:35.42 | itchi | azeem: Yeah, it's looks, thingfish, i'm bad, sorry/ |
| 23:35.54 | azeem | thingfish: right-click->unlock |
| 23:35.57 | thingfish | or move other items on the panel to. |
| 23:35.58 | ScottishPig | azeem, Thanks. Forgot the command. 2.4.27-2 |
| 23:36.10 | five0 | PumpkinPie: what's the ssh-connection route? |
| 23:36.17 | azeem | ScottishPig: what does "lsmod | grep snd" say? More than 1 line? |
| 23:36.45 | five0 | PumpkinPie: localuser, from, to, remoteuser |
| 23:37.01 | ScottishPig | azeem, No lines at all... :-/ |
| 23:37.06 | thingfish | azeem: that didn't seem to do it. |
| 23:37.17 | azeem | thingfish: well, you need to unlock/move all the others as well |
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| 23:37.24 | thingfish | well it's certainly trivial, so no biggie |
| 23:37.25 | azeem | then you can move stuff there, AFAIK |
| 23:37.49 | itchi | thingfish: It's the gnome panel or so ?? |
| 23:37.56 | thingfish | azeem: all the items there are unlocked; nothing can be moved into the area. |
| 23:38.04 | PumpkinPie | five0: remote user |
| 23:38.08 | thingfish | yes, itchi |
| 23:38.21 | azeem | thingfish: can you move stuff out? |
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| 23:38.27 | eleftherios | this entry in menu.lst boots the machine: "kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 root=/dev/hda2 ro", while this one goes to 'file not found': "kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro". Both files live under /boot so no one exists under /. Any pointers? I am lost |
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| 23:39.16 | thingfish | azeem: oh yes, I can. but I can't get them back in there. :) |
| 23:39.30 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: and /boot is a separate partition? |
| 23:39.31 | rvgate | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers im trying to follow that guide, but when it comes to "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common" it fails becouse it can't find the package |
| 23:39.39 | azeem | thingfish: strange |
| 23:39.42 | azeem | well, *shrug* |
| 23:39.50 | azeem | thingfish: AFAIK, there's no "protected" area, really |
| 23:39.59 | thingfish | azeem: more funny than strange. |
| 23:40.10 | azeem | ScottishPig: what kind of sound card do you have? |
| 23:40.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: did you get my six pack? |
| 23:40.29 | ScottishPig | azeem, Not my computer. Craplessly old. Don't know. :-( |
| 23:40.43 | thingfish | I just added a new mixer applet to the panel and said to hell with it. |
| 23:40.47 | azeem | ScottishPig: run lspci and watch out for 'Audio controller' or so |
| 23:40.58 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. No, we cleared out about 12 pitchers |
| 23:41.17 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: just two of you? |
| 23:41.29 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, there were around 10 of us |
| 23:41.35 | ScottishPig | azeem, Aureal AU8810 |
| 23:41.38 | thingfish | ok, got it now...I didn't unlock the notification area itself, I was only unlocking the items within it. |
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| 23:41.55 | azeem | ScottishPig: aiee, google for it, maybe? |
| 23:42.00 | azeem | ScottishPig: also, run alsaconf |
| 23:42.03 | azeem | !alsaconf |
| 23:42.05 | azeem | hrm |
| 23:42.13 | azeem | I'm not an alsa pro, sorry |
| 23:42.38 | ScottishPig | 'Sokay. Now that I know a wee bit more about what commands to use, I can riggity rock this on... thanks a million, azeem. You rock. |
| 23:42.43 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, yes. fdisk gives me: http://pastebin.ca/68692 |
| 23:42.50 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thank goodness .. i thought you might have a problem :) |
| 23:43.08 | itchi | azeem: alsa-checklist ;-) |
| 23:43.12 | thingfish | he does, man. |
| 23:43.21 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, any ideas? |
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| 23:44.16 | abrotman | eleftherios: which entry doesn't boot? is it sata? |
| 23:44.30 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: and stat /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-k7 shows the kernel? |
| 23:45.16 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, /etc/mtab has: /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 & /dev/hda2 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 |
| 23:45.34 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: yeah, that's fine... I just wanted to make sure that /boot was a separate partition |
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| 23:47.15 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, that's what stat shows: http://pastebin.ca/68693 |
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| 23:48.21 | dob1 | hi |
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| 23:48.31 | itchi | dob1: :-P |
| 23:48.37 | itchi | :-) |
| 23:49.26 | eleftherios | abrotman, there are only 4 entries (2 kernels and their failsafes), here is the menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/68696 |
| 23:49.53 | abrotman | eleftherios: it's not sata is it ? |
| 23:50.04 | eleftherios | abrotman, how can I find out if it is SATA? (this is a remote server which I have never had physical access to it) |
| 23:50.13 | abrotman | oh jeez .. lspci .. might be some help |
| 23:50.24 | abrotman | or .. maybe get the CPU speed .. that might be some help |
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| 23:50.52 | eleftherios | abrotman, 0000:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) |
| 23:51.06 | dob1 | how can i do a "reverse grep" ? |
| 23:51.11 | abrotman | dob1: man grep |
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| 23:51.58 | eleftherios | abrotman, CPU speed? I can't see how this is relevant, but in any case cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me: cpu MHz : 1666.518 for a model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ |
| 23:52.00 | abrotman | eleftherios: i'm guessing that's old . and a regular IDE PATA controller |
| 23:52.12 | abrotman | eleftherios: because if it was sufficiently old .. SATA wouldn't have existed :) |
| 23:52.20 | eleftherios | abrotman, oh I see |
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| 23:53.05 | RvGaTe | now in windows again |
| 23:53.07 | eleftherios | well, it boots on a 2.4 kernel, not on a 2.6, the technical support staff told me that when he tried to reboot it the entries for the 2.6 kernel would give file not found |
| 23:53.21 | eleftherios | that's what puzzles me |
| 23:53.23 | eleftherios | :-( |
| 23:53.35 | benny`work | hi! how can i tell fetchmail to move mails to my maildir and not to /var/mail/<user> ? |
| 23:53.56 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: does the initrd exist? |
| 23:54.03 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: when did it give file not found? |
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| 23:55.02 | dob1 | abrotman: give me a hint :) |
| 23:55.16 | dob1 | i don't find in man , you mean exclude? |
| 23:55.22 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, yes initrd exists |
| 23:55.37 | dondelelcaro | dob1: look at the -v option |
| 23:56.27 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, the tech. support email said that at boot time he got 'file not found' for the kernel 2.6 |
| 23:56.45 | eleftherios | but they only reboot so they can't help any more |
| 23:56.45 | kyncani | benny`work: set up a smtp server and use procmail |
| 23:57.00 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: when at boot time? When grub ran? or did it actually start to boot? |
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| 23:57.33 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, I would guess after grub ran otherwise he would not be able to restart and choose the 2.4.18 kernel option |
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| 23:57.50 | dob1 | abrotman: thanks |
| 23:58.04 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: no, I mean, was grub able to begin loading the kernel and did if fail because the root filesystem couldn't be mounted, or was grub not even able to load the kernel? |
| 23:58.29 | eleftherios | dondelelcaro, that's something I don't know either :-( He didn't say. |
| 23:58.52 | dondelelcaro | eleftherios: are your drives sata drives/ |
| 23:58.56 | dondelelcaro | s#/## |
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| 23:59.30 | loiic | Hi |
