| 00:00.18 | dvs | Stevie-O: I thought linux doesn't work on 386s anymore |
| 00:00.26 | Stevie-O | Why wouldn't it? |
| 00:00.40 | dvs | Stevie-O: Floating-point emulation |
| 00:00.45 | darkcmd | debian runs on 386 |
| 00:00.45 | itchi | ktwilight: #debian-belgium is niet taal gericht |
| 00:00.54 | dooglus | when I try to 'upgrade' my unstable box, it tells me: "The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-686; The following packages will be upgraded: linux-image-2.6.16-2-686". should I let it remove linux-image-686? and why would it even want to? |
| 00:01.03 | Stevie-O | dvs: FPE still exists. |
| 00:01.24 | Stevie-O | and besides, normal 386s had FPEs; only the 386SX didn't have one |
| 00:01.25 | graeme | darkcmd: http://www.pccables.com/01590.htm |
| 00:01.28 | ktwilight | itchi, echte? maar mijn vlaams is niet ook goed :/ |
| 00:01.39 | dvs | Stevie-O: that's dead wrong |
| 00:01.49 | Stevie-O | err FPUs |
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| 00:02.03 | darkcmd | why would people compile debian for 386 if it couldn't possibly run |
| 00:02.11 | dvs | Stevie-O: 386s had a 32-bit data channel while 386SXs had 16 |
| 00:02.11 | darkcmd | what is the point? |
| 00:02.11 | itchi | ktwilight: You could easy work on your language. Sure when it's already not good. So you learn a bit to practice it ;-) |
| 00:02.22 | dvs | Stevie-O: both didn't have FPUs |
| 00:02.29 | ktwilight | itchi, haha true true |
| 00:02.37 | Stevie-O | dvs: Meh. In any case, there's still an FPE option in the kernel config menu |
| 00:02.50 | itchi | I got a man on #debian-belgium :-) |
| 00:02.52 | darkcmd | it will probably remain also |
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| 00:07.29 | jelly-home | dooglus: that's strange, maybe debian's kernel package has changed name. I'd do an update first, then a separate apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686, then continue with the upgrade |
| 00:07.45 | jelly-home | !nl |
| 00:07.45 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 00:08.03 | jelly-home | eh, no pointer to a Dutch channel? |
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| 00:08.18 | dooglus | jelly-home: I've tried an "apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.16-2-686", and it doesn't show any interesting conflicts |
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| 00:10.10 | dooglus | jelly-home: I tried what you suggested. I had already done an update, but did it again anyway. the apt-get install tells me "linux-image-2.6-686 is already the newest version", and contining the upgrade still wants to remove linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-686. |
| 00:10.22 | stoned | rvgate, apt-get install rdesktop |
| 00:11.21 | stoned | rvgate, then man rdesktop, simple copule of options will have you connected to xp |
| 00:11.35 | Thunderguy | Hey I used Ubuntu and I'm not sure about the differences of Ubuntu and Debian ( except there made differently and completely different ) but I was wondering, in my Ubuntu it was a default setting to clear my apt-get caching after a certain size, is it the same in debian? |
| 00:12.10 | Thunderguy | I want to get my apt-get cache size to about 2 gigabytes and then use apt-move, is why I'm asking |
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| 00:12.24 | dvs | !tell root about root |
| 00:12.25 | ktwilight | i didn't even know apt has a caching system :/ |
| 00:12.30 | dooglus | Thunderguy: I don't think either debian or ubuntu empties the apt-get cache unless you ask it to |
| 00:12.40 | Thunderguy | Alright. |
| 00:12.43 | stoned | ktwilight, what do youthink apt-cache is? |
| 00:12.56 | ktwilight | i've no clue. :/ |
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| 00:13.24 | Thunderguy | hey do you know something else? I'm thinking of making my own cd set right? and I was wondering how do I divide up a 2 gigabyte apt-cache or broken repository, to fit on different discs? |
| 00:13.31 | dooglus | ktwilight: do a "du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives/" to see how much space your package cache is using |
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| 00:13.48 | jlaw | @root ... i took the wrong console ^^ |
| 00:13.57 | ktwilight | WOW! a staggering 685mb!! |
| 00:13.59 | ktwilight | that's alot |
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| 00:14.09 | dooglus | ktwilight: you can "sudo apt-get clean" to empty it |
| 00:14.10 | Thunderguy | I'm thinking you might have a program that could do that... I could be wrong though. |
| 00:14.11 | wotdu | hey |
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| 00:14.26 | wotdu | is it possible to downgrade? e.g. from unstable to testing |
| 00:14.31 | Dewi | wotdu: no |
| 00:14.36 | dvs | wotdu: nope |
| 00:14.37 | ktwilight | great things i find today... |
| 00:14.44 | wotdu | thanks |
| 00:14.48 | ktwilight | thanks dooglus! :) |
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| 00:15.01 | Thunderguy | Because basically I wanna download everything for my system right? then make the cd's.. is there a way to do that? or would I have to make it all in 600 MB sets, then clean up my apt cache and start over for the next disc? |
| 00:15.05 | MatBoy | maybe someone can help me here.. I can;t find my password-settings under Thunderbird anymore :S |
| 00:15.05 | dooglus | Thunderguy: I guess ktwilight's example shows that debian doesn't keep it's package cache to a reasonable size by default... |
| 00:15.08 | wotdu | let's hope i don't regret dist-uprading to sid :P |
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| 00:15.12 | ktwilight | where does apt-cache get its info from? apt-get? |
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| 00:15.29 | wotdu | ktwilight: from apt's cache |
| 00:15.30 | MatBoy | ktwilight, the cache of the packages it know |
| 00:15.42 | dooglus | ktwilight: from the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ I guess |
| 00:15.47 | ktwilight | i'm not understanding it then... :/ |
| 00:15.54 | MatBoy | why ? |
| 00:15.57 | Thunderguy | I just need any way to divide up apt-cache or a repository generated by apt-move without me having to go in there manually and screw things up |
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| 00:15.59 | ktwilight | so apt-cache gets its information from apt-get update? |
| 00:16.01 | wotdu | apt-get update downloads the list of packages |
| 00:16.07 | wotdu | and they are stored in a cache |
| 00:16.10 | MatBoy | ktwilight, nope |
| 00:16.12 | ktwilight | ... |
| 00:16.20 | dooglus | ktwilight: "apt-get update" updates the files which apt-cache uses, yes |
| 00:16.20 | ktwilight | so wotdu is wrong... |
| 00:16.23 | MatBoy | ktwilight, what wotdu says |
| 00:16.28 | ktwilight | ?! |
| 00:16.28 | wotdu | ktwilight: apt-get update gets the packages list and stores it in files |
| 00:16.35 | ktwilight | yes...that i know... |
| 00:16.45 | MatBoy | ktwilight, that is why you always need to run apt-get update sometimes |
| 00:16.45 | wotdu | ktwilight: and apt-cache reads those files |
| 00:17.02 | ktwilight | ok, so i was right, but didn't describe/explain it well. |
| 00:17.04 | ktwilight | makes sense... |
| 00:17.08 | Thunderguy | Anybody know? because say I have 1200 MB of apt-cache and make it into a repository with apt-move it will make (1) 1200 MB repository? correct? and I want to split it up to fit on 2 cd's |
| 00:17.12 | eastwood | update updates the package tere |
| 00:17.16 | eastwood | tree* |
| 00:17.21 | ktwilight | so, as per Thunderguy's issue, is it possible to limit the cache size? |
| 00:17.26 | eastwood | cache looks in the package tree |
| 00:17.33 | jlaw | erm ... i have a little problem ... i set up debian testing with a netinst cd. after installing the base system the setup crashed. when i rebooted and logged into console i wanted to start up the base-config so i typed "base" and tabbed, but base-config was not listed. because i did not want gnome anyway i desided to do it by hand. so i installed xorg, kde, kdm etc and it all works fine. but the only weird thing is that everything i installed can |
| 00:17.51 | Thunderguy | No, I don't wanna limit the cache size, I wanna break up the caching to put repositories on multiple cd's |
| 00:17.59 | dooglus | Thunderguy: apt's package cache holds on to even old versions of packages you'll never want to install again |
| 00:17.59 | eastwood | jlaw, apt-get install base-config |
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| 00:18.29 | jlaw | eastwood ... i know ... but that is not what i want (and by the way i have already done) |
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| 00:18.59 | eastwood | jlaw, you can still unistall gnome |
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| 00:19.02 | ktwilight | hmm...i should look it up on docs 'bout this. |
| 00:19.03 | eastwood | so whats the problem? |
| 00:19.06 | jelly-home | dooglus: sorry, no idea then |
| 00:19.30 | Thunderguy | See I have a computer that is offline in another place without a network card, and I wanna install debian to it right? all I have is cd's but I wanna make a custom set, so I need a way when I move with apt-move to create multiple repositories from one large apt-cache in order to install the stuff to a 'blind' computer |
| 00:19.37 | jlaw | i wonder what i have to do, so that autocompletition by tab works for new installed programs |
| 00:19.43 | dooglus | jelly-home: I'll let it do it's thing, and then see if it can tell me why it won't install linux-image-686 |
| 00:19.50 | eastwood | jlaw, bash-completion ? |
| 00:20.30 | jlaw | eastwood ... i'll have a look for it ... basically it works ... just not for new installed stuff |
| 00:20.35 | Thunderguy | So I either want to break up apt-get's caching into multiple directories at 600 MB, OR break up a broken repository afterwards.. |
| 00:20.46 | Thunderguy | but I need to do it safely |
| 00:21.09 | wotdu | wow, YaKuake rocks! |
| 00:21.45 | jlaw | eastwood, nah, not really |
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| 00:22.28 | jelly-home | dooglus: eh. linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 was updated and is at -15, but the virtual packages still depend on -14. |
| 00:22.31 | eastwood | jlaw, hows' that? |
| 00:23.13 | jlaw | man ... that's weird |
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| 00:23.55 | eastwood | jlaw, some commands are hidden from a normal user |
| 00:23.59 | eastwood | you know that dontcha? |
| 00:24.20 | jlaw | eastwood ... i am logged in as root of course |
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| 00:25.15 | dooglus | jelly-home: so I see. "linux-image-2.6-686: Depends: linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 (= 2.6.16-14) but 2.6.16-15 is to be installed" |
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| 00:25.45 | MatBoy | mhh no password possibility in Thunderbird.. can;t find it on google :( |
| 00:25.54 | jlaw | does somebody know where the base-config executable is located? |
| 00:25.57 | wotdu | using debian kernels sucks : / |
| 00:26.01 | dooglus | jelly-home: how did someone manage to rebuild just the linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 package without also building linux-image-2.6-686? surely they're built in a single step? |
| 00:26.02 | dvs | jelly-home: So, don't install linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 |
| 00:27.06 | awa64 | Quick question--I'm using the partition tool on the Debian net installer, and I've got everything set up how I want it. But there are these weird characters between the partition sizes and file system type names. |
| 00:27.12 | eastwood | jlaw, probably inside /bin |
| 00:27.13 | dooglus | jlaw: base-config isn't an executable, it's a package |
| 00:27.19 | eastwood | or /usr/bin or /usr/sbin |
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| 00:27.28 | awa64 | Most of 'em are smiley faces, but one of 'em looks like a grounded power outlet with a crossbone behind it. |
| 00:27.44 | awa64 | Does that mean anything? Should I be concerned? |
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| 00:27.57 | jlaw | !tell dooglus -about brain |
| 00:28.12 | jlaw | eastwood thx |
| 00:28.19 | Stevie-O | awa64: Maybe your computer is psychic and is warning you that you're about to electrocute yourself? |
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| 00:28.48 | Stevie-O | (and it's happy about it) |
| 00:28.59 | dvs | awa64: It's suppose to be a skull and crossbones |
| 00:29.05 | freeone3000 | awa64: That's the reformat symbol, I believe. |
| 00:29.09 | dvs | awa64: I forget what it means |
| 00:29.15 | jlaw | eastwood, no ... it's not there ... i know it is installed |
| 00:29.18 | Stevie-O | dvs: pirates or death. |
| 00:29.28 | dvs | Stevie-O: arrrrrrrr |
| 00:29.29 | awa64 | OK. I thought it was a skull'n'bones... |
| 00:29.30 | dooglus | jlaw: you're the idiot, not me. |
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| 00:30.02 | dooglus | jlaw: what makes you think there's a base-config executable? |
| 00:30.02 | Stevie-O | dooglus: Give him a pony! |
| 00:30.14 | dooglus | Stevie-O: um... |
| 00:30.18 | jlaw | doolus ... think a moment: why should start "base-config" typed in console a program if it was just a package |
| 00:30.20 | godmachine81 | How do you run a command from a shell prompt so that it runs in quiet mode or so that it doesnt tie up the prompt. like if i run something from the prompt and i dont want it to show output and tie up that terminal.. |
| 00:30.30 | freeone3000 | Ampersand at the end. |
| 00:30.42 | eastwood | godmachine81, command & |
| 00:30.49 | freeone3000 | And if you need it exceptionally quiet, 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| 00:30.49 | Stevie-O | godmachine81: command >/dev/null 2>&1 & |
| 00:30.54 | awa64 | yeah, freeone3000, it's the reformat symbol. |
| 00:31.03 | dooglus | jlaw: maybe it's a shell function, or an alias, I don't know. run "type base-config" to find out. |
| 00:31.03 | jlaw | dooglus, by installing the package "base-config" you get a program called "base-config" and that is definetly an executable |
| 00:31.04 | Stevie-O | freeone3000: Actually I think you have to redirect 1> first |
| 00:31.19 | awa64 | Weird, though--I'm formatting all three disks. One's being redone with one less partition, and one's getting installed for the first time. |
| 00:31.23 | Stevie-O | otherwise 2>&1 goes to stdout |
| 00:31.23 | awa64 | Oh wel. |
| 00:31.26 | freeone3000 | Stevie-O: I've never had trouble doing it this way. |
| 00:31.46 | freeone3000 | Stevie-O: Yeah, but then stdout gets redirected to /dev/null, so it's all good... |
| 00:31.54 | Stevie-O | No, it does not. |
| 00:32.01 | Stevie-O | Compare: |
| 00:32.02 | Stevie-O | perl -le 'warn "hi!"' >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 00:32.07 | Stevie-O | perl -le 'warn "hi!"' 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| 00:32.15 | jlaw | dooglus, you did not get my problem, so you can't now "type" will not work in my case |
| 00:32.45 | freeone3000 | Ah. I'll remember that. |
| 00:32.57 | godmachine81 | if i use the "&" at the end of the command it will give me the prompt after i hit <enter> |
| 00:33.09 | five0 | for those familiar with 2up, is it a script, or a compiled binary |
| 00:33.18 | freeone3000 | godmachine81: What prompt? |
| 00:33.20 | Stevie-O | freeone3000: This is documented in the bash man page: What happens in the first case (the one that works) is that fd 1 (stdout) is directed to dev/null, and fd 2 is copied from fd 1 (which is now to /dev/null) |
| 00:33.39 | godmachine81 | i mean it takes me back to the shells prompt |
| 00:33.40 | godmachine81 | # |
| 00:33.43 | freeone3000 | godmachine81: Yeah. |
| 00:33.49 | freeone3000 | But it probably should be $... |
| 00:34.02 | godmachine81 | but i want it to do that automatically |
| 00:34.02 | Stevie-O | freeone3000: In the second, non-working case, fd 2 (stderr) is copied from stdout, then fd 1 is replaced with /dev/null, but fd 2 keeps its reference to the original stdout |
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| 00:34.14 | godmachine81 | mine uses # |
| 00:34.31 | Stevie-O | then you're running as root. you probably shouldn't be |
| 00:34.38 | jlaw | anyway ... kernel compilation is done, so i'm away for a moment |
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| 00:36.09 | godmachine81 | Stevie-O, im not running X |
| 00:36.17 | godmachine81 | i was on a virtual terminal running root |
| 00:36.32 | freeone3000 | Would it be bad to alias apt-get to yes | apt-get? |
| 00:36.37 | dos000 | is there a way i can get ls to display directories first .. yes man ls was not helpful. |
| 00:36.51 | freeone3000 | godmachine81: Long as you don' t use it for anything besides system maintniance. |
| 00:37.05 | godmachine81 | freeone3000, i already know that |
| 00:37.27 | freeone3000 | dos000: Er. I believe you can give it the option to give you /, then have some way of putting / first. |
| 00:37.49 | dooglus | dos000: 'ls' doesn't have that option. you can do something with sort and such like, but not just using 'ls' |
| 00:38.50 | dooglus | dos000: and 'man ls' should have been useful - the option isn't listed there, so it doesn't exist |
| 00:39.31 | ktwilight | defoma is still broken :/ |
| 00:39.37 | dos000 | dooglus, i assumed i misread it ! |
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| 00:40.13 | dos000 | dooglus, altho *BSD seem to have a -lD option |
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| 00:42.29 | schippes | how can i mount the debian 'etch' /boot/initrd.img file? is it a initramfs image ? mounting with mount -t ramfs -o loop /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-486 /mnt/e gives no errors but i dont see any mounted fs under /mnt/e ..... |
| 00:42.33 | jlaw | i don't get it ... something is going wrong ... kdm shows me a black screen after installing the nvidia driver o_O |
| 00:43.27 | dooglus | dos000: something ugly like this kind of works (except for files with spaces in their names...) ls -dlUF $(find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | sort; find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 '!' -type d | sort) |
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| 00:43.58 | dos000 | ugh ! |
| 00:44.34 | dooglus | yes. |
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| 00:44.42 | dooglus | and like I say, it doesn't even work properly |
| 00:44.49 | dos000 | dooglus, goole came back with alias ls='ls -F | grep / && ls -F | grep -v /' |
| 00:45.22 | dos000 | dooglus, colors are gone tho |
| 00:45.49 | dooglus | dos000: and it's running 'ls' twice too |
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| 00:46.21 | godmachine81 | jlaw, which nvidia driver did you use? |
| 00:46.26 | godmachine81 | there are several of them |
| 00:46.39 | dos000 | dooglus, which is bad ? ls and find or 2 ls ? |
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| 00:47.23 | dooglus | dos000: the find will run in linear time, whereas 'ls' doesn't, so it's better not to run ls twice. not that it matters unless the directories are big. |
| 00:47.32 | dooglus | dos000: if you want the colours back, then: alias ls='ls --color -F | grep / && ls --color -F | grep -v /' |
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| 00:50.28 | dooglus | jlaw: did you work out why you can't complete on base-config yet? |
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| 00:50.58 | dooglus | jlaw: hint: base-config isn't an executable, it's just a package. it's an executable in stable, but you're running testing. |
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| 00:52.24 | jlaw | dooglus, no, not yet ... but i figured out something else ... i compiled a new kernel but installed the old one -.- |
| 00:52.30 | jlaw | brb |
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| 00:53.26 | mne | hi. does anyone know a file indexing/searching tool, that has a central server and clients that do the indexing ? Thus every computer would run the file indexing tool and the index to a central (web)server. any suggestions ? I searched for some time, but couldn't find anything suitable. |
| 00:54.08 | dondelelcaro | mne: you could do that with hyperestraier fairly easily |
| 00:54.12 | dooglus | mne: sounds like google desktop |
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| 00:55.00 | dondelelcaro | mne: indexing is generally done on a central server, but you can set it up to submit documents from anywhere |
| 00:55.12 | mne | dondelelcaro, i had a look at hyperestraier, but it doesn't seem to be a central server, where clients can checkin their file index. |
| 00:55.21 | mne | dooglus, I'll have a look at it ;) |
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| 00:55.36 | dondelelcaro | mne: clients submit files to the central server to be indexed. |
| 00:55.47 | dondelelcaro | (or can, if you're using estmaster) |
| 00:55.50 | dooglus | mne: only problem with that is that google own the central server... |
| 00:56.10 | mne | dondelelcaro, but then the server would do the indexing. So the client would need to run some kind of server (e.g. ftp server) that can be indexed, right ? |
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| 00:56.17 | dondelelcaro | mne: no |
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| 00:56.41 | mne | dondelelcaro, ok, I'll have another look at it :) thank you |
| 00:56.45 | dondelelcaro | mne: the clients just send the documents to the server in any way that they want, and say "this is document foo which you can get at bar, index it." |
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| 00:57.01 | five0 | hi, i've used the following commands to create a book: psbook in.ps out.ps; psnup -2 -pa4 -l out.ps > printme.ps; lpr printme.ps. I end up getting a book where each second side (is rotated 180). |
| 00:57.14 | five0 | which isn't what i'd like |
| 00:57.15 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 00:57.19 | aptitude | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.1, snapshot: 2.6.17-git4, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-mm1 |
| 00:57.21 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.1, snapshot: 2.6.17-git4, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-mm1 |
| 00:57.24 | mne | dondelelcaro, so I do have to send the whole file to the server ? |
| 00:57.31 | dvs | ha! |
| 00:57.34 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 00:57.38 | dondelelcaro | mne: yes, but you'd have to do that no matter what you did |
| 00:57.52 | dvs | someone has got to fix aptitude |
| 00:58.05 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 00:58.57 | mne | dondelelcaro, hmm. Since the files are pretty large, I would prefer that the clients index the locally stored files (actually only the filenames) and then submit it to the server. The server adds that index information to its local image and thus makes it searchable |
| 00:59.20 | mne | dondelelcaro, i do not require indexing of the file content, just the filenames are important |
| 00:59.22 | dondelelcaro | mne: that won't save you anything, because the index would pretty much have most of the file in it anyway. |
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| 01:00.16 | jlaw | !punish me |
| 01:00.19 | FarrisG | could some perl/curl-savy person help me troubleshoot this problem I've had with gotmail for a month? |
| 01:00.29 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: just ask |
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| 01:01.13 | five0 | is there a pub channel for debian for random topics? |
| 01:01.26 | mne | dondelelcaro, so does hyperestraier also work for just index the filenames ? (so that one can search for a filename and the search engine returns the host and the path for that file) ? |
| 01:01.30 | loiic | Hi, does anyone know a simple and free web interface for server monitoring ? |
| 01:01.58 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: #debian-offtopic |
| 01:02.05 | dondelelcaro | s/farrisG/five0 |
| 01:02.29 | dondelelcaro | mne: uh... it could, but it's way overkill for just that |
| 01:02.43 | FarrisG | For the past month I've been getting this error on all my debian boxes with gotmail: "An error was encountered getting the page. Command was curl -k --stderr /tmp/fileUiXtdRgotmail_curlstderr23346 'http://www.hotmail.com/' -b /tmp/fileGtFWT3gotmail_cookies23346 -c /tmp/fileGtFWT3gotmail_cookies23346 -i -m 600 -D /tmp/file4Q1afFgotmail_headers23346 -A "Mozilla/4.73 [en] (Win98; I)" at /usr/bin/gotmail line 788." |
| 01:03.16 | five0 | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 01:03.27 | FarrisG | I can't figure out what the actual error is. Supposedly the newest version works, but nobody in the gotmail forums can give me any more than "it should work" |
| 01:03.29 | mne | dondelelcaro, so do you know a more simple solution for that problem ? :) I also don't know what to search for, no idea how something like that would be called.. |
| 01:03.49 | dondelelcaro | mne: sounds like you're looking for some sort of filename index, like a multi-system locatedb. |
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| 01:04.07 | mne | dondelelcaro, exactly. |
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| 01:04.30 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: the error is most likely that the curl command is exiting with non-zero; I don't know why, but you should check to see if the stderr file has anything useful in it. |
| 01:04.43 | dondelelcaro | anyway, good luck. |
| 01:04.55 | cafuego | thankyou |
| 01:05.04 | mne | dondelelcaro, it would also be great if one could add files from cd-roms or from other removeable media to the index |
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| 01:07.08 | FarrisG | dondelelcaro: The script cleans up its stderr file when it completes, and I do not know how to keep it from doing so |
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| 01:07.37 | Stevie-O | FarrisG: the script goes back and rewrites stderr? |
| 01:08.24 | FarrisG | Stevie-O: No, the script captures stderr, pipes it to a file, and then removes it when finished |
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| 01:08.37 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 01:08.41 | Stevie-O | you could edit the script. |
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| 01:10.39 | wotdu | which package provides flash plugin ? |
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| 01:15.17 | FarrisG | ha! I completely commented out all the lines in the doCleanTempFiles function, and it still did it |
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| 01:15.32 | FarrisG | I think maybe it's dying before it even generates any stderr |
| 01:15.48 | raden | is there a way via FTP to do a du on a directory or something similar |
| 01:16.39 | linux2 | anyone know that if i added a line to /etc/modules |
| 01:16.45 | itchi | wotdu: non-free ?? |
| 01:16.46 | linux2 | how i would specify a module option in there |
| 01:16.47 | linux2 | ? |
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| 01:17.00 | wotdu | itchi: thanks, found it already :) |
| 01:17.01 | linux2 | cause i need to load cpqarray with the option |
| 01:17.06 | linux2 | eisa=0x3000 |
| 01:17.11 | itchi | linux2: Use 'modconf' ?? Need to install it |
| 01:17.16 | dabreegster | wotdu: There are several in testing. flashplugin-nonfree is nonfree, obviously. swf-player seems to use GTK. And libflash-mozplugin is from a new project, I think. All these are plugins for Mozilla. They have standalone players too. |
| 01:17.48 | itchi | linux2: I use it to when i not know which module there are available |
| 01:17.53 | wotdu | im using non-free one |
| 01:18.03 | wotdu | damn ppl wont release 64bit plugins |
| 01:18.10 | linux2 | itchi, well i know which module and option i need to load |
| 01:18.13 | linux2 | cpqarray |
| 01:18.18 | wotdu | so we all have to make a chroot just for that crap |
| 01:18.29 | dabreegster | wotdu: OK, sorry, didn't see your earlier message |
| 01:18.52 | itchi | linux2: Leave an space after the module and write you're parameters |
| 01:18.54 | linux2 | itchi, is modconf a graphical app? |
| 01:19.29 | itchi | linux2: A curse bassed, yes and GUI for in the cli if you want |
| 01:19.44 | itchi | linux2: An little apps with menus ;-) |
| 01:20.03 | linux2 | itchi, ok yeah i see it. just took a sec for it to open |
| 01:20.12 | linux2 | so if i add the line to /etc/modules |
| 01:20.20 | itchi | linux2: It's very userfull, you go to see it :-) |
| 01:20.21 | linux2 | cpqarray eisa=0x3000 |
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| 01:20.28 | itchi | linux2: Yup |
| 01:20.40 | linux2 | itchi, yeah looks great. thanks for the tip |
| 01:20.53 | linux2 | any idea as to how i can load the module with the options now |
| 01:20.58 | itchi | linux2: Thanks to that one wo told me :-) |
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| 01:21.14 | linux2 | or see what cards are on my eisa bus? |
| 01:21.30 | itchi | linux2: modprobe mymodule my_params |
| 01:21.48 | linux2 | itchi, well i already loaded it |
| 01:21.53 | linux2 | how do i unload i forget |
| 01:22.03 | itchi | linux2: rmmode ?? |
| 01:22.10 | itchi | linux2: use the TAB keys :-) |
| 01:22.18 | HyperZid | anyone know how I can choose the name of my bluetooth device? |
| 01:22.22 | itchi | linux2: I to with an little head ;-) |
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| 01:22.58 | nekostar | how long is a normal time for a server box to reboot ?? |
| 01:23.36 | raden | how would i find out what dns is being used ? |
| 01:23.44 | linux2 | itchi, ok now how can i see what hard drives i have |
| 01:23.48 | linux2 | cause loaded the module works on |
| 01:23.54 | itchi | nekostar: Depending of the hardware, my old 233 Mhz take 6 or 7 minutes. It's an gateway/firewall/webserver/database/ and troulalala |
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| 01:24.03 | linux2 | i just need to see what drives i can now access running on that array card |
| 01:24.10 | itchi | linux2: The brand ?? |
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| 01:24.26 | itchi | linux2: /proc/partitions ?? |
| 01:24.48 | linux2 | itchi, its a compaq scsi array controller |
| 01:24.51 | linux2 | the original one |
| 01:24.56 | linux2 | it runs on an eisa bus |
| 01:25.34 | nekostar | itchi, yeah |
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| 01:25.37 | nekostar | i think i broke something bad |
| 01:25.42 | nekostar | very very bad on a remote server |
| 01:25.46 | itchi | linux2: lspci ?? |
| 01:25.55 | nekostar | its an amd 1400+ and its been 6 minutes |
| 01:25.55 | itchi | linux2: I not realy understand what you need :-/ |
| 01:25.58 | dvs | nekostar: go there and fix it. ;-) |
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| 01:26.19 | linux2 | itchi, well it is an eisa scsi array controller |
| 01:26.27 | linux2 | and there are several logical drives running on it |
| 01:26.35 | linux2 | now the module that runs that is cpqarray |
| 01:26.39 | itchi | linux2: Theck you're logs ?? dmesg to |
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| 01:27.05 | nekostar | dvs, its like 2000 miles from me |
| 01:27.17 | itchi | linux2: I not know about hardware raid. I'm little bit experienced with software RAID1 :-/ |
| 01:27.38 | malenfant | Hello, I've upgraded to xorg 7.0.0, but my graphics driver (fglrx) is meant for xorg 6.8.0. How would I go about downgrading to this version of xserver-org? |
| 01:27.58 | itchi | nekostar: I guess you have the 'appletalk' thing installed, take time to load, and most time it's not needed |
| 01:28.10 | linux2 | itchi, dmesg shows a little bit about the module |
| 01:28.20 | linux2 | looks like i need to restart the comp to get it to work |
| 01:29.07 | itchi | linux2: dpkg -l netatalk |
| 01:29.17 | linux2 | what is netatalk? |
| 01:29.37 | nekostar | what are you talking abou itchi |
| 01:29.40 | itchi | linux2: I thinks it's installed, but _the_ that's a guess of the day |
| 01:30.06 | nekostar | its a cli _server_ |
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| 01:30.25 | itchi | nekostar: oh it's to you i need to talk i think |
| 01:30.35 | pppoe_dude | there are 666 people in here |
| 01:30.46 | itchi | bad number |
| 01:30.49 | nekostar | good number |
| 01:30.54 | nekostar | its the number of man |
| 01:30.57 | itchi | yea now 665 |
| 01:31.01 | pppoe_dude | brb dont wanna be that 666th guy :P |
| 01:31.03 | nekostar | not so great |
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| 01:31.18 | pppoe_dude | oh no |
| 01:31.20 | itchi | crazy guy :-) |
| 01:31.22 | nekostar | your #666 |
| 01:31.24 | nekostar | f00l |
| 01:31.27 | pppoe_dude | lol |
| 01:31.37 | itchi | nekostar: Have you follow the discussion ? |
| 01:31.44 | nekostar | no. |
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| 01:31.48 | itchi | I have miss the person :-/ |
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| 01:32.09 | pppoe_dude | soon i wont be... |
| 01:32.12 | itchi | nekostar: Try dpkg -l netatalk |
| 01:32.22 | nekostar | dude |
| 01:32.29 | nekostar | why. |
| 01:32.41 | simonrvn | 666 means nothing. the numerology is 616... |
| 01:32.51 | nekostar | maybe you dont understand me btw itchi |
| 01:32.55 | itchi | nekostar: You're server is to slow at startup ?? |
| 01:32.57 | nekostar | i cant even ping the damn server |
| 01:33.00 | pppoe_dude | simonrvn, 616? |
| 01:33.09 | itchi | nekostar: Aargmm |
| 01:33.11 | nekostar | it went down for a shutdown -r now |
| 01:33.15 | nekostar | and it never came back. |
| 01:33.22 | nekostar | and i dont have that package i guarentee it |
| 01:33.34 | simonrvn | yes. google it. it was in the news like last month iirc |
| 01:33.36 | itchi | nekostar: How so it not come back ? |
| 01:33.54 | pppoe_dude | so.. sorry but a bit off-topic question: any ideas when next debian release will be out? |
| 01:33.57 | nekostar | ive standard packages + pure-ftpd-common pure-ftpd irssi iroffer checkinstall and build-dep for pure-ftpd |
| 01:34.04 | nekostar | so dude stfu |
| 01:34.05 | simonrvn | wir |
| 01:34.34 | vronsky | I need some help getting linux to recognize my sound card. I think i found the right alsa driver and now lspci gives the name of the chipset instead of just "unknown VIA", but I still have no .dev.dsp or .dev.audio. |
| 01:35.15 | MatBoy | Damn, I will always get stuck with Debian where I can... the most nice Community there is ! |
| 01:36.01 | nekostar | what card vronsky |
| 01:36.06 | pipeline | MatBoy: Debian has a NICE community? |
| 01:36.15 | itchi | pppoe_dude: Like simonrvn already say When it's ready :-) |
| 01:36.17 | pipeline | MatBoy: Knowledgable, helpful, I've heard -- but NICE? |
| 01:36.20 | simonrvn | /dev/dsp is just for OSS, or oss emulation in alsa. they're not essential |
| 01:36.56 | pipeline | cafuego: That's more what I'm accustomed to. |
| 01:37.04 | cafuego | you're welcome |
| 01:37.19 | pppoe_dude | itchi, cool |
| 01:37.26 | itchi | pipeline: Yeah i find it nice to :-p |
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| 01:37.52 | pipeline | itchi: Most of us are not nice people. Especially me. I'm here to abuse my fellow user while dispensing wisdom. |
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| 01:38.25 | simonrvn | gently of course :) |
| 01:38.30 | itchi | pipeline: Need you '/msg dpkg champagne' ?? :-p |
| 01:38.38 | vronsky | simonrvn: how should i try to access the dsp then? |
| 01:38.48 | wotdu | hey guys |
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| 01:39.10 | wotdu | im in amd64 and i have a 32bit chroot, when i try to run any kde app from there i get the same error |
| 01:39.12 | yoanis_gil | any body here has tried the mediawiki package |
| 01:39.13 | yoanis_gil | ? |
| 01:39.14 | MatBoy | pipeline, normal way of discussing... CentOS... security in CentOS is not CentOS related... it comes as it gets and the channeloperators are very unfriendly about interresting questinos or other users that are helping |
| 01:39.20 | wotdu | seems like it cant connect to the server |
| 01:39.24 | yoanis_gil | because i think there is one script missing |
| 01:39.47 | MatBoy | pipeline, In the Debian community... you in it... always help.. as far as everyone can help you ! |
| 01:39.54 | wotdu | WARNING: Waiting for already running klauncher to exit. |
| 01:39.54 | wotdu | WARNING: Another instance of klauncher is already running! |
| 01:39.54 | wotdu | kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! |
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| 01:40.05 | raden | does linux have anything like terminal services ? |
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| 01:40.48 | pipeline | raden: On UNIX, *all* graphics are, uh, remotely accessible. |
| 01:41.01 | pipeline | raden: In a nutshell, enable X11 forwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:41.12 | pipeline | raden: then, when you ssh into the server, run "ssh -X" instead of ssh. |
| 01:41.17 | pipeline | raden: Things will "just work" |
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| 01:41.39 | raden | pipeline, gotcha |
| 01:41.55 | itchi | raden: As you're not with the user with guid 1000 or below, like that user created while the installation |
| 01:41.56 | simonrvn | you don't need it, that's my point. |
| 01:41.58 | vronsky | neko: it is a "dynex DX-SC51" but the chipset says ICEmble 1723... which i believe alsa supports... |
| 01:42.19 | wotdu | can anyone help me? |
| 01:42.29 | Tomze | installing dual boot on acer aspire 3000... now how much trouble will i get if i delete the first patition? fdisk -l show it as 3076416 blocks - system= compaq diagnostics |
| 01:42.41 | raden | pipeline, wow you just gave me a million dollar sales pitch :) |
| 01:42.50 | FarrisG | man, gotmail's --debug switch doesn't do a damn thing |
| 01:42.53 | raden | pipeline, any simple solutions for something like active directoy ? |
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| 01:43.20 | pipeline | raden: Hell no. AD is the finest software of its kind. The only thing that even comes close is Novell ED. |
| 01:43.26 | pipeline | raden: And Novell is *spendy* |
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| 01:43.39 | raden | pipeline, novell and MS both spendy |
| 01:43.51 | pipeline | raden: Granted, the Novell directory/ID-management software is multiplatform, whereas AD is pretty much windows-only... |
| 01:44.00 | pipeline | raden: Heh, Novell prices make Microsoft look pretty damned affordable. |
| 01:44.01 | raden | pipeline, in your opinion at what size ( node wise ) does a company usually consider something like AD ? |
| 01:44.15 | yoanis_gil | is that true, that NSS has been ported to Linux? |
| 01:44.18 | pipeline | raden: AD is useful in *any* company. |
| 01:44.22 | raden | pipeline, in my opinion novell is more stable |
| 01:44.25 | unhappy | hello can someone tell me how do i get out of x and just have vga console |
| 01:44.28 | pipeline | raden: However, there *is* a free alternative: NIS+. |
| 01:44.40 | raden | NIS ? |
| 01:44.42 | pipeline | raden: NIS+ is an 80s abomination. |
| 01:44.47 | raden | LOL |
| 01:44.51 | pipeline | raden: It's what AD was designed to compete with |
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| 01:44.57 | pipeline | raden: It's, uh, pretty goddamned crufty |
| 01:45.01 | dvs | ahhh. Milli Vinilli |
| 01:45.01 | raden | pipeline, i need solutions i can present to businesses |
| 01:45.21 | pipeline | raden: NIS+, like AD, works best in a homogenous environment. Windows can work within NIS+, but it's a real pain in the ass to set up. |
| 01:45.22 | raden | ive been in luinux end of things forever more on a 1- 5 node business and its been fine kinda looking to expand and getting more into windows |
| 01:45.22 | Tomze | unhappy: /etc/init.d/gdm stop - kdm if you use kde |
| 01:45.37 | raden | pipeline, simplicity and reliability |
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| 01:45.46 | pipeline | raden: Heh, in a small business with 1-5 nodes, you can use Samba as an NT4 domain controller and not worry about AD. |
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| 01:46.24 | raden | pipeline, is there anything that really makes Linux stand out over like server 2003 |
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| 01:46.44 | pipeline | raden: Nothing good. |
| 01:46.45 | cafuego | raden: speed, reliability, cost. |
| 01:46.53 | pipeline | raden: Debian is cheap. *Supported* linux is NOT cheap. |
| 01:46.54 | _unhappy_ | hey |
| 01:46.54 | Tomze | fun |
| 01:47.16 | _unhappy_ | can someone tell me how do i get out of X seesion |
| 01:47.23 | pipeline | _unhappy_: ctrl alt backspace |
| 01:47.29 | cafuego | pipeline: The thing is, once the Debian box is set up, it requires (virtually) no maintanance. |
| 01:47.44 | pipeline | cafuego: *shrug* |
| 01:48.00 | _unhappy_ | it throws me back into the login screen whatever it's called ... i want VGA console only ... kinda like msdos |
| 01:48.01 | raden | pipeline, im finding business dont care how much they spend as long as it works : ( |
| 01:48.12 | cafuego | pipeline: ... and it's less likely to become infected with any of 500,000 viruses ;-) |
| 01:48.15 | raden | and im the support and yes its usually costly |
| 01:48.17 | dvs | !tell _unhappy_ about nodm |
| 01:48.17 | tuv | _unhappy_, if you want a console: ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 01:48.18 | dooglus | 03:45 < Tomze> unhappy: /etc/init.d/gdm stop - kdm if you use kde |
| 01:48.24 | pipeline | cafuego: Windows 2003 is locked down ootb :P |
| 01:48.35 | pipeline | raden: Have fun with your brand new Windows SBS 2003 installations :\ |
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| 01:50.19 | raden | pipeline, why yeah say that |
| 01:50.20 | _unhappy_ | that was nice dvs ... but it doesn't make sense at all why would i remove DM just to start the console only ... |
| 01:50.32 | pipeline | raden: You KNOW why. |
| 01:50.34 | raden | i havent played with small business server yet, you know anything about that |
| 01:50.42 | raden | pipeline, actually no i dont |
| 01:50.47 | Tomze | _unhappy_now guys.. how f***** am i if i delete the first parttion on this lappy im about to install? its some weird and small system partition |
| 01:50.53 | dvs | _unhappy_: that's the reason why you get an X display every time you log on. |
| 01:50.56 | Tomze | sorry _unhappy_ |
| 01:50.56 | raden | ive been kinda just playing with a few trial copies from MS im a linux dude |
| 01:50.58 | pipeline | Tomze: You do NOT want to do that. |
| 01:51.07 | pipeline | Tomze: It's probably the suspend/restore partition. |
| 01:51.07 | Tomze | pipeline: tell me more |
| 01:51.11 | Tomze | ahhh |
| 01:51.19 | Tomze | dammit |
| 01:51.22 | pipeline | Tomze: Worse, you may have to create another one, even larger |
| 01:51.30 | _unhappy_ | can't i just stop it from starting |
| 01:51.45 | tuv | Tomze, is it a recovery partition? does your laptop recover without a cd/dvd? |
| 01:51.50 | Tomze | pipeline: if i delete it or if i make dual boot? |
| 01:51.59 | raden | pipeline thanks for all info |
| 01:52.03 | Tomze | tuv: yep... recovery cd |
| 01:52.20 | Tomze | not even a real xp :-/ |
| 01:52.23 | bnovc | to fix erasing in screen i should do stty erase ctrl+v then backspace , right? |
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| 01:53.07 | bnovc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.10 | tuv | _unhappy_, if you don't X to start on boot, man update-rc.d and run it on gdm/kdm/xdm (use the one you're running only) |
| 01:53.35 | dvs | _unhappy_: hence the message from dpkg |
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| 01:54.15 | dooglus | tuv: did you ever try getting update-rc.d to do anything useful? I can't... |
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| 01:54.50 | tuv | dooglus, it worked perfectly when i tried it.. i usually just install/uninstall what i want/don't-want |
| 01:54.56 | tuv | though |
| 01:54.57 | Tomze | remove ssh... or other daemons |
| 01:55.18 | dooglus | tuv: I can remove all the symlinks for gdm, but can't get it to just stop gdm for runlevel 2, say |
| 01:56.03 | Tomze | sysv-rc-conf is nice and friendly |
| 01:56.20 | tuv | dooglus, try "stop" instead of remove for particular runlevels |
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| 01:56.37 | dooglus | tuv: $ sudo update-rc.d gdm stop 99 2 . System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist. |
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| 01:59.51 | tuv | dooglus, try "-f remove" then a complete start/stop command with all runlevels |
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| 02:00.38 | dooglus | tuv: yes, that works. but it seems like a long way around things. I only want to change one link. |
| 02:00.53 | tuv | dooglus, or use bum of you got X |
| 02:01.15 | dooglus | tuv: I quite like sysv-rc-conf |
| 02:01.16 | tuv | dooglus, it seems start/stop are designed to create links not to modify them |
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| 02:02.23 | Tallu | How would I go about restarting the sshd for all usrs? |
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| 02:03.05 | _unhappy_ | sorry guys but i don't think you understand me. what i'm trying to do is to install nvidia drivers and i need to exit everything window manager/X/xfree/DM or whetever how can i do that can someone pls tell me |
| 02:03.06 | tuv | dooglus, didn't know about it.. thanks for the hint :) |
| 02:03.34 | tuv | _unhappy_, hit ctrl+alt+F1 and run "/etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 02:03.35 | tuv | " |
| 02:03.38 | avenger__ | hi |
| 02:03.44 | tuv | _unhappy_, as root |
| 02:04.22 | _unhappy_ | now we are talking |
| 02:04.42 | _unhappy_ | tuv ... how do i get back "gdm start" ??? |
| 02:04.43 | cafuego | _unhappy_: Just install them, and edit the X cfg file. |
| 02:04.45 | tuv | _unhappy_, now you're talking |
| 02:04.53 | tuv | _unhappy_, right |
| 02:04.56 | cafuego | _unhappy_: When done, logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace and log back in. |
| 02:04.57 | avenger__ | secret |
| 02:04.58 | linux2 | ok i ran modprobe cpqarray eisa=0x3000 and now my comp locked up |
| 02:05.03 | linux2 | anyone know anything about this? |
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| 02:06.12 | linux2 | cpqarray: I/O range already in use addr = 3000 length = 2047 |
| 02:06.16 | linux2 | got a bunch of those |
| 02:06.19 | linux2 | in dmesg |
| 02:06.43 | _unhappy_ | what will ctrl-alt -backspace do if i'm in VGA and completly out |
| 02:06.53 | dooglus | _unhappy_: nothing |
| 02:06.54 | cafuego | _unhappy_: nothing |
| 02:06.55 | linux2 | how can i tell what hard drives linux is detecting |
| 02:06.56 | linux2 | ? |
| 02:07.01 | linux2 | cause i need to add mountpoints |
| 02:07.02 | _unhappy_ | so why hit it then |
| 02:07.04 | stoned | I have an X running on :0 which runs kde locally. I also have X running on :1 which uses -broadcast -query laptop.ip.ip.ip. I can't seem to figure out a way to have a clipboard exchange data between these two instances of Xserver |
| 02:07.08 | stoned | how can I make it so? |
| 02:07.09 | dooglus | _unhappy_: cafuego was suggesting that you could edit the file inside X and use c-a-backspace to restart. |
| 02:07.09 | linux2 | but i don't know what the devices are |
| 02:07.19 | _unhappy_ | ohhhhh |
| 02:07.21 | cafuego | _unhappy_: There is no reason to shut down X when simply installing or changing drivers. |
| 02:07.37 | _unhappy_ | the install script will complaing |
| 02:07.47 | _unhappy_ | that i'm runnig X server |
| 02:08.09 | cafuego | You shouldn't be using any install script |
| 02:08.19 | cafuego | the nvidia drivers are built for Debian and in non-free. |
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| 02:08.40 | _unhappy_ | that's how they come ... they are proprietary nvidia drivers for 3d acc ... legacy for gf2 |
| 02:09.13 | cafuego | _unhappy_: No, they come prepackaged with Debian itself. No need for downloads and compilation from nvidia.com |
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| 02:09.28 | cafuego | _unhappy_: Simply install the packages with apt, edit the X config and done. |
| 02:09.59 | _unhappy_ | are we talking about the same "proprietary" drivers that will give me 3d acceleration |
| 02:10.11 | orgw | how do you sort files by date with 'ls'? |
| 02:10.19 | cafuego | _unhappy_: yes |
| 02:10.25 | orgw | let's say from january to december |
| 02:10.26 | dooglus | orgw: -t |
| 02:10.26 | stoned | anyone? |
| 02:10.32 | orgw | thanks |
| 02:10.38 | _unhappy_ | you wouldn't know the pckg name off the top |
| 02:10.50 | cafuego | nvidia-glx is the X one. |
| 02:10.54 | dooglus | orgw: "man ls" will tell you about many more wonderful flags |
| 02:10.57 | stoned | how does one exchange data copy/paste between two X servers, on :0 and on :1. how do you copy/paste between them? |
| 02:10.58 | cafuego | For the kernel interface, run 'sudo m-a' |
| 02:11.22 | cafuego | or possibly 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-$(uname -r)' |
| 02:11.45 | Tomze | whats with all this sudo |
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| 02:12.14 | waltz | how do I switch desktops? |
| 02:12.37 | stoned | sudo is great |
| 02:12.45 | waltz | rather, how do I install KDE from CD and then switch desktops? |
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| 02:13.18 | Tomze | cafuego: why? so i wont have to enter password often? |
| 02:13.30 | Tomze | or something else |
| 02:13.39 | cafuego | So you don't leave root shells open |
| 02:13.52 | _unhappy_ | cafuego, what do you mean "apt-get install nvidia-kernel" i thought the package name is "nvidia glx" |
| 02:14.22 | waltz | how do I find my IP? |
| 02:14.23 | cafuego | _unhappy_: 'nvidia-glx' is the component that plugs into X. There's a second aprt, which plugs into the kernel. |
| 02:14.28 | Tomze | cafuego: but i dont. but i think it would be the same to leave a user shell open that can do sudo ehh? |
| 02:14.51 | cafuego | Tomze: No, as it will automagically unauthenticate and require a password after 15 or so minutes. |
| 02:15.15 | Tomze | aha.. hmmm |
| 02:15.29 | Tomze | thanks for the answer.. betime here |
| 02:15.34 | Tomze | +d |
| 02:16.09 | _unhappy_ | ok so... 1. apt-get install nvidia-glx 2. edit the X cfg file 3. apt-get install nvidia-kernel-$(uname-r) |
| 02:16.33 | _unhappy_ | i'm sooo gonna fuck this up and have to reinstall the whole os |
| 02:17.05 | larrikin | didn't phil collins have a song called sudo ? |
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| 02:17.25 | dvs | sussudio |
| 02:17.43 | larrikin | oh .. BUT I WAS CLOSE! |
| 02:18.19 | waltz | ? |
| 02:18.50 | waltz | how do I find my IP? |
| 02:19.17 | waltz | does Debian have a Windows "ipconfig" equivalent? |
| 02:19.29 | _unhappy_ | ifconfig |
| 02:19.33 | dooglus | waltz: internal? use ifconfig; external? ask your router, or run "wget -qO- http://marp.retrogames.com/cgi/myip.cgi" |
| 02:20.34 | _unhappy_ | what is X configuration file called |
| 02:20.42 | dooglus | xorg.conf |
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| 02:20.58 | waltz | does Debian "sarge" 3.1 come with KDE? |
| 02:21.02 | _unhappy_ | isn't debian using xfree86 |
| 02:21.23 | dooglus | maybe stable is; unstable isn't |
| 02:21.37 | dvs | _unhappy_: sarge does, etch does not |
| 02:22.22 | _unhappy_ | are you moving to x.org |
| 02:23.22 | _unhappy_ | how do i find out what i have |
| 02:23.37 | larrikin | is there someway I can use ping to look for n replies, but set the exit status according to a ( success >= 90% ) then exit status = 0 .. type of scenario ? |
| 02:23.39 | waltz | dvs: was that directed to me? |
| 02:24.13 | dooglus | _unhappy_: which what? x server? or debian? |
| 02:24.44 | waltz | how can I install KDE on Debian from the Debian CD distrib? |
| 02:25.01 | _unhappy_ | both |
| 02:26.09 | waltz | hello? |
| 02:26.22 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 02:27.26 | dooglus | _unhappy_: running "lsb_release -a" will tell you about your debian version, and "dpkg -l xserver\*" will tell you which xserver packages you have installed |
| 02:28.28 | Tomze | waltz: the hard question is.. how do i not install kde or gnome - and people here like to help if you do a bit of reading your self.. debian.org - distrowatch.. they both got the answer to your question |
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| 02:29.01 | _unhappy_ | what is the difference between "dpkg" and "apt-get" are they 2 ways of doing the same thing or 2 parts of 1 system |
| 02:29.07 | waltz | okay thank you, sorry for my being impatient... I'm tired |
| 02:29.40 | Stevie-O | _unhappy_: dpkg is more of a direct interface to the package management system; apt-get, aptitude, and synaptics wrap around dpkg to make life with Debian lots less painful |
| 02:29.45 | Tomze | waltz: np |
| 02:29.48 | dooglus | _unhappy_: apt-get uses dpkg to do the low-level package handling. apt-get is a layer on top, downloading packages, resolving dependencies and such like |
| 02:29.51 | carrett | lol |
| 02:29.58 | carrett | it's everyone's favorite question!!! |
| 02:30.04 | Stevie-O | what is? |
| 02:30.11 | carrett | the diff b/t dpkg and apt-get |
| 02:30.17 | pab | greetings all! Can someone direct me to a debian specific howto for gvim? In particular the packages one should get? |
| 02:30.19 | Stevie-O | that's not my favorite question. |
| 02:30.36 | Stevie-O | But I did explain it to a Gentoo user today |
| 02:30.37 | _unhappy_ | how can i ask the bot in here questions and where can i see what is his range |
| 02:30.39 | dooglus | nor mine. my favourite is "when will the next debian release be?" |
| 02:30.44 | Stevie-O | hoping he will switch away from the dark side |
| 02:30.48 | Stevie-O | _unhappy_: /msg dpkg <keyword> |
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| 02:30.55 | carrett | pab: vim-gtk? or vim-gnome? |
| 02:31.07 | Gumb1 | Hi. I have a very little bit of experience with both Debian and ubuntu. I can install either one just fine. I plan on making my laptop dual boot tomorrow morning. I'm debating whether to go with ubuntu or debian. The single most important thing to me is having good hardware support for laptops: I want powerstepping, hibernate, etc. and good battery life. What's the trade off with debian & ubuntu??? |
| 02:31.08 | KevinIN72 | hey how do i get proftpd |
| 02:31.08 | carrett | pab: apt-cache search gvim and pick something that looks like it's what you want |
| 02:31.10 | _unhappy_ | dpkg ... that fucker is in here too?? |
| 02:31.11 | dpkg | _unhappy_: okay |
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| 02:31.16 | pab | carrett: vim-gtk |
| 02:31.27 | Stevie-O | _unhappy_: for example, try /msg dpkg dpkg |
| 02:32.00 | Stevie-O | dpkg, forget ... that fucker |
| 02:32.00 | carrett | pab: ok. apt-get install vim-gtk |
| 02:32.01 | dpkg | i forgot ... that fucker, Stevie-O |
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| 02:32.02 | carrett | oh well, it's my favorite question...and people generally jump to answer it (i base this on...nothing) |
| 02:32.02 | Stevie-O | (dpkg is a little too willing to learn) |
| 02:32.09 | KevinIN72 | is there an apt-get for proftpd |
| 02:32.10 | pab | carrett: thank you. does it come with highlighting? |
| 02:32.15 | carrett | he's an eager beaver |
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| 02:32.19 | carrett | pab: don't know, i don't use it. |
| 02:32.19 | dooglus | Gumb1: I can't tell the difference between debian and ubuntu on my laptop |
| 02:32.31 | Stevie-O | carrett: So like most predictions or estimates (based on nothing) |
| 02:32.58 | carrett | Stevie-O: you know what they say about stats, 90% are unfounded! |
| 02:33.00 | Gumb1 | dooglus: Yeah, I've had both on my laptop at one point and they seem pretty damn similar (ubuntu's built on debian--right?) |
| 02:33.09 | dooglus | Gumb1: right. |
| 02:33.16 | KevinIN72 | proftpd anyone :P |
| 02:33.18 | carrett | Gumb1: i think ubuntu's geared more towards things "just working" |
| 02:33.24 | Gumb1 | Ubuntu seems to have a more regular release schedule, so maybe its kernel is more up-to-date... that'd be nice for my laptop hardware.... |
| 02:33.25 | Stevie-O | carrett: 17% of all people know that. |
| 02:33.34 | Gumb1 | carrett: Yes, but at what expense? |
| 02:33.49 | Gumb1 | Stevie-O: Statistics can be used to prove anything. 31% of people know that. |
| 02:33.53 | Stevie-O | at our expense -- people come to here instead of #ubuntu for help |
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| 02:34.03 | carrett | Gumb1: well...i've had a little experience...and, i guess it's a little dumbed down |
| 02:34.04 | Gumb1 | haha :) |
| 02:34.04 | dooglus | Gumb1: debian's unstable had a kernel update just yesterday |
| 02:34.16 | carrett | and the packages are a little different |
| 02:34.21 | carrett | or so i've heard |
| 02:35.14 | Gumb1 | carrett: Yeah, I've heard similar, but they seem nearly identical to me |
| 02:35.14 | Stevie-O | carrett: Sounds like you've had as little experience as possible! *rimshot* |
| 02:35.16 | dooglus | carrett: there's really no dumbling down in ubuntu as far as I can tell. anything you can do in debian you can do in ubuntu, since ubuntu basically is debian |
| 02:35.28 | Stevie-O | !ubuntu |
| 02:35.29 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 02:35.36 | _unhappy_ | ok .. so i did this "apt-get install nvidia-lx" ... how what |
| 02:35.53 | carrett | Stevie-O: nice |
| 02:35.56 | Gumb1 | !<based On debian> |
| 02:35.58 | Tomze | <... run debian on acer aspire 1350 + dell lattitude d410 laptop |
| 02:36.11 | Stevie-O | drop the <> |
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| 02:36.18 | Gumb1 | !based on debian |
| 02:36.41 | dooglus | !Based on Debian |
| 02:36.54 | dooglus | !Based On Debian |
| 02:37.03 | dooglus | silly bot |
| 02:37.08 | Gnea | !based on debian |
| 02:37.14 | _unhappy_ | cafuego, it says that "package nvidia-glx has not installation candidate" |
| 02:37.34 | Gumb1 | everyone, on the count of three.... 1... 2.... 3.... |
| 02:37.34 | Gumb1 | !Based On Debian |
| 02:38.20 | carrett | there we go |
| 02:38.24 | Gnea | bot is lagged |
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| 02:38.41 | carrett | oh...dpkg won't ever speak to me again for some reason |
| 02:38.42 | dooglus | !unstable |
| 02:38.42 | dpkg | methinks unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
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| 02:38.47 | carrett | that's why i usually sign on as gpm |
| 02:38.51 | dooglus | not lagged, just a bit broken |
| 02:40.09 | tuv | _unhappy_, running etch? |
| 02:40.48 | k-man | is it bad to use cpan to install perl packages under debian? |
| 02:40.52 | _unhappy_ | i don't think so ... i'm running xfree86 |
| 02:41.08 | carrett | k-man: there's an "official" way to do that |
| 02:41.23 | k-man | carrett, oh... is there? |
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| 02:41.36 | carrett | k-man: i'm trying to find it |
| 02:41.45 | FarrisG | can you specify a port in your .fetchmailrc? I want to fetch from a pop server that does not run on port 110 |
| 02:41.45 | tuv | _unhappy_, do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 02:41.55 | carrett | k-man: ah, just /msg dpkg cpan |
| 02:42.08 | carrett | don't know if that helps |
| 02:42.11 | carrett | i've never tried |
| 02:42.17 | k-man | thanks |
| 02:42.17 | _unhappy_ | ... oh... i know what you are talking about now... i don't think that the new installer will give you a choice |
| 02:42.20 | k-man | i think i found something |
| 02:42.35 | tuv | _unhappy_, you could still have xfree on etch if you don't upgrade regularly.. check /etc/debian_version or sources.list to better tell if you're running etch or sarge |
| 02:42.39 | carrett | dh-make-perl --cpan |
| 02:43.15 | carrett | dh-make-perl is a package. |
| 02:43.27 | k-man | yeah |
| 02:43.29 | k-man | found it |
| 02:43.30 | k-man | thanks |
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| 02:43.35 | carrett | np |
| 02:43.41 | _unhappy_ | i'm running 3.1 |
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| 02:43.50 | _unhappy_ | that's sarge .. right?? |
| 02:43.52 | maikol | is there a way to allow more than one application to be able to play sound at one time |
| 02:44.01 | tuv | _unhappy_, hes |
| 02:44.03 | tuv | *yes |
| 02:44.08 | carrett | maikol: yeas |
| 02:44.16 | _unhappy_ | so how can i make it install non-free |
| 02:44.18 | carrett | maikol: alsa, right? |
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| 02:44.29 | maikol | caracal, oss |
| 02:44.39 | carrett | whhy? |
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| 02:44.48 | maikol | cause thats what i have? |
| 02:45.01 | carrett | but why would you use that instead of alsa? |
| 02:45.08 | tuv | _unhappy_, nvidia-glx is available in sarge.. most probably you don't have non-free in sources.list |
| 02:45.14 | maikol | cause i dont know the difference and oss already works? |
| 02:45.48 | carrett | maikol: huh...which kernel are you using? |
| 02:45.49 | optraz | hello, i read the snmp manual. it say a lot about snmpconf which i cannot find in apt repo. in which package is snmpconf located? |
| 02:46.02 | _unhappy_ | tuv, so how do i make it happend |
| 02:46.10 | maikol | carrett, 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 02:46.22 | carrett | maikol: that uses alsa by default. |
| 02:46.31 | carrett | maikol: so, you told it to explicitly use oss? |
| 02:46.46 | maikol | carrett, mplayer wont play unless told explicitly to use oss |
| 02:46.53 | tuv | maikol, install "alsa-base", "alsa-utils", and "linux-sound-base" and you shoule have alsa working |
| 02:47.15 | tuv | maikol, mplayer works with alsa if it's installed properly (kernel modules loaded) |
| 02:47.36 | carrett | yeah |
| 02:47.39 | _unhappy_ | where is sources.list |
| 02:47.42 | carrett | tuv is right |
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| 02:47.51 | maikol | i realise that, but thats not the case for me |
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| 02:47.56 | tuv | _unhappy_, check if you have the string "non-free" anywhere in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:48.08 | carrett | maikol: the bottom line is that i can't help you, and most people won't be able to, because oss is being phased out |
| 02:48.19 | tuv | _unhappy_, if not, add it at the end of any line with a url, with a space before it |
| 02:48.34 | maikol | carrett, understandable, im getting alsa as we speak |
| 02:48.48 | carrett | maikol: yeah...so don't worry about the oss right? |
| 02:49.07 | maikol | carrett, right. i was just wondering how to get more than one sound at a time |
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| 02:49.21 | carrett | maikol: oooh. well that's dependent on which system your'e using i'd assume. anyway |
| 02:49.23 | carrett | with alsa |
| 02:49.24 | tuv | maikol, it's automatic with alsa |
| 02:49.27 | carrett | it just works |
| 02:49.28 | carrett | yeah |
| 02:49.37 | maikol | alright then |
| 02:49.41 | carrett | the only time people have had problems is with flash |
| 02:49.53 | carrett | but that's fixable. come back when you have alsa and we'll tell you how |
| 02:49.59 | carrett | (or use google) |
| 02:50.04 | signuts | Hey folks. I just moved my system over to raid5 on debian. For the life of me I can't find the package which contains raidstart/raidstop etc. Anyone know? |
| 02:50.06 | _unhappy_ | what is a very understandable and lightweight editor that i can use for quick eidits like that ... kinda like "edit" in Msdos |
| 02:50.16 | carrett | signuts: use pdo |
| 02:50.25 | maikol | carrett, flash in firefox? or just everywhwere |
| 02:50.37 | signuts | carrett, pdo? What? I already have a raid5 setup and installed. is it compatible? |
| 02:50.49 | carrett | signuts: packages.debian.org will help you find any package |
| 02:50.50 | signuts | I need the software on debian to manage it. No way am I rebuilding my raid |
| 02:50.58 | signuts | It didn't find raidstart for me |
| 02:51.03 | carrett | signuts: assuming you can't find it with apt-cache |
| 02:51.12 | signuts | I am asking because I already tried |
| 02:51.12 | carrett | signuts: i'm telling you, use packages.debian.org to find the package |
| 02:51.17 | carrett | oh |
| 02:51.27 | carrett | that's the extent of my helpfulness...sorry |
| 02:51.33 | tuv | _unhappy_, nano |
| 02:51.42 | signuts | perhaps i'll hang about till I find an answer =) |
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| 02:52.01 | carrett | maikol: i'm saying that the only time people have problems runnig sound in more than one app is when they try to run a sound app whilst a flash in firefox is playing sounds |
| 02:52.18 | carrett | signuts: sorry i can't help more |
| 02:52.34 | tuv | signuts, i don't know about raidstart, but you can use apt-file to look for it.. just install apt-file and run man apt-file |
| 02:52.36 | buu | Anyone have the faintest idea where I could look to debug a "xinit: Server Error" ? |
| 02:52.37 | _unhappy_ | the bot told me i can add "contrib non-free" to the end ... is that true?? |
| 02:53.01 | maikol | carrett, alright. turns out i already had all the packages you mentioned installed, like you said. |
| 02:53.19 | carrett | ok |
| 02:54.02 | optraz | hello, i read the snmp manual. it say a lot about snmpconf which i cannot find in apt repo. in which package is snmpconf located? |
| 02:54.15 | _unhappy_ | tuv, the bot told me i can add "contrib non-free" to the end ... is that true?? |
| 02:54.18 | tuv | optraz, snmp |
| 02:54.33 | tuv | _unhappy_, yes.. you can trust the bot :) |
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| 02:56.09 | optraz | tuv: thanks trying |
| 02:56.17 | maikol | carrett, alright, i had the files. any ideas why it doesnt play multiple at a time |
| 02:56.28 | _unhappy_ | ok .. i did it but now it says (when i do apt-get install nvidia-glx) ... contrib is not know on line 7 in sources list ... |
| 02:56.57 | carrett | maikol: lsmod|grep snd |
| 02:57.10 | carrett | (use pastebin as necessary) |
| 02:57.30 | maikol | carrett, #flood |
| 02:57.41 | carrett | maikol: ok, paste away |
| 02:57.55 | FarrisG | can anyone explain to me the "x/n" syntax for crontab? |
| 02:58.15 | carrett | maikol: ok. apt-get install alsa-utils and then run alsamixer |
| 02:58.18 | _unhappy_ | tuv, oh wait ... do i have to add it @ the end of each line in sources.list |
| 02:58.26 | carrett | maikol: or does it play one file at a time ok? |
| 02:58.39 | maikol | carrett, plays one at a time fine |
| 02:58.57 | carrett | maikol: ok. and you're sure the oss module is no longer loaded or being used? |
| 02:59.03 | maikol | carrett, well, no |
| 02:59.20 | carrett | maikol: ok, why don't you dump the whole lsmod into flood? |
| 02:59.26 | carrett | (please) |
| 02:59.33 | maikol | going |
| 03:01.06 | carrett | maikol: what kind of card do you have? |
| 03:01.26 | _unhappy_ | how can i find out my kernel version |
| 03:01.34 | carrett | _unhappy_: uname -r |
| 03:01.54 | maikol | carrett, audiopci-97 |
| 03:02.31 | Arafangion | What is a good console imap4 mail client? |
| 03:03.06 | Arafangion | I've been looking at Pine, but it doesn't specifically mention imap4 support. |
| 03:03.22 | _unhappy_ | OK here's the million dollar question... WHY when i try to install nvidia-glx it's trying to install "nvidia-kernel-2.4.27" if my kernel is 2.6.8 |
| 03:03.37 | k-god | Arafangion: mutt supports it. I'd recommend offlineimap myself though. |
| 03:03.41 | gavagai | [a]freebsd_fan, mutt? |
| 03:03.50 | carrett | maikol: ok. what are you trying to do right now? like, which apps are you trying to have play sound simultaneously? |
| 03:04.07 | gavagai | err, Arafangion |
| 03:04.09 | Arafangion | k-god: I shall check out mutt, then :) Thanks. |
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| 03:04.16 | carrett | Arafangion: yeah, mutt is good with imap |
| 03:04.16 | k-god | Arafangion: ... which is what most GUI clients effectively do (offlineimap) anyway. |
| 03:04.29 | Arafangion | k-god: I don't need offlineimap |
| 03:04.33 | maikol | carrett, i tried mplayer and xmms at the same time. then mpg321 and mplayer, then testing system sounds with xmms running. |
| 03:04.59 | maikol | whoever starts first is allowed sound, the next program is blocked |
| 03:05.03 | carrett | _unhappy_: because you don't have nvidia-kernel for your version so it's going with the default dependency...install the proper nvidia-kernel for your kernel |
| 03:05.18 | k-god | Arafangion: That's what you think. |
| 03:05.18 | carrett | maikol: and none of those combinations worked? |
| 03:05.24 | maikol | nope |
| 03:05.35 | Arafangion | k-god: My imap server is less than 40cm away from me. |
| 03:05.41 | k-god | Arafangion: Effectively it synchs your remote imap folders to local maildirs. |
| 03:06.00 | k-god | Arafangion: One day you'll wake up and find it's 42cm away from you. *Then* what're you going to do? |
| 03:06.10 | simonrvn | k-god: hello |
| 03:06.12 | Arafangion | k-god: I really don't know :( |
| 03:06.22 | k-god | simonrvn: Hola. |
| 03:06.26 | k-god | simonrvn: Just heading out. |
| 03:06.30 | simonrvn | see you |
| 03:06.38 | carrett | maikol: hm...shit. i honestly don't know why that would be. |
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| 03:07.04 | carrett | maikol: i didn't have to do anything to my setup and alsa works fine with multiple apps at the same time. |
| 03:07.07 | carrett | maikol: sorry... |
| 03:07.20 | maikol | carrett, no worries. thanks for the help |
| 03:07.37 | carrett | maikol: np...i can make you dump lsmod to no end at any time |
| 03:07.39 | carrett | :P |
| 03:07.47 | maikol | haha |
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| 03:08.12 | carrett | k, time to do a little work before i get tired |
| 03:08.19 | maikol | did you notice that there were stil a few mentions of oss in lsmod though |
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| 03:09.28 | _unhappy_ | caracal, see now i understand what "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-$(uname -r)" ment... regardless it cannot find the package ... should it be aviable for 2.6.8 or do i have to use older kernel |
| 03:09.41 | _unhappy_ | carrett , see now i understand what "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-$(uname -r)" ment... regardless it cannot find the package ... should it be aviable for 2.6.8 or do i have to use older kernel |
| 03:10.54 | Arafangion | mutt is _NICE_ |
| 03:10.59 | Arafangion | k-god: Thanks :) |
| 03:11.12 | Arafangion | Even supports my UTF-8 email properly. |
| 03:11.21 | Arafangion | Threading, it's amazing. |
| 03:11.39 | tuv | _unhappy_, if the proper nvidia-kernel-* for your kernel is not available in the repo. you can build one as easily as typing "module-assistant auto-install nvidia" (first install module-assistnat and run "module-assistant prepare" as root) |
| 03:11.39 | gavagai | yeah mutt is good stuff |
| 03:12.28 | itchi | me to, evolution are broken in Etch, i run to Mutt :-) |
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| 03:13.02 | lukasz22 | hallo |
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| 03:13.43 | lukasz22 | is any body come from poland |
| 03:13.46 | tuv | thunderbird does quite well for me |
| 03:14.26 | Piet | and it even supports more than one account ;) |
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| 03:15.13 | setuid_w00t | I have a really old and crufty xorg.conf file. Are there any modern tools for generating the config file? |
| 03:17.00 | _unhappy_ | how can i uninstall what i've just installed |
| 03:17.04 | itchi | I just hope i get my mail back :-/ crap that evolution. No export item and like i could no more open it :-/ |
| 03:17.09 | _unhappy_ | apt-get uninstall doesn't work |
| 03:17.14 | g333k | Hi I'm setting my promp with color and background color: so I put this line in my .bashrc as user: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[47;31m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]\[\033[47;31m\]\:\[\033[00m\]\[\033[47;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\[\033[47;31m\]$\[\033[00m\] Then I wanted to do it as root just changing the $ for #, The problem is that when I do "su user" to go from root to user, my user appears in the /root directory intead his home directory, why? |
| 03:17.20 | itchi | _unhappy_: remove is it |
| 03:17.21 | g333k | prompt* |
| 03:17.57 | cafuego | g333k: Coz `su user' doesn't overwrite the env vars, whereas `su - user' would. |
| 03:18.10 | itchi | _unhappy_: It's apt-get remove pkg |
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| 03:18.45 | tuv | _unhappy_, man is your friend.. man apt-get, man aptitude...etc |
| 03:19.26 | simonrvn | g333k: su - |
| 03:19.51 | itchi | Don't keep my pasager sad humor about Evolution in consideration he ;-) |
| 03:19.53 | simonrvn | su - user |
| 03:19.56 | simonrvn | etc. |
| 03:20.14 | simonrvn | itchi: eh? |
| 03:20.31 | _unhappy_ | dude... in know what you are saying but i installed debian yesterday and i need to have the driver installed since i have wxga monitor that's stuck on 800x600 ... can you even imagine what my fonts look like |
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| 03:21.50 | itchi | simonrvn: It's looks that in Etch in Evolution once you click on the contact (or calendar), evolution crash, and when you reopen it, it always crash, i get the same trouble on 2 coputers. I know, i'm to lazy and have not analyse the trouble. It's for a bit later, i not want to read my mail now ;-) |
| 03:22.36 | _unhappy_ | what i just realized that since i have older card (geforec256) i actually cannot use the latest drivers (so it says in the repo.) i guess i have to use nvidia installer anyway ... so just pls how can i get out of x completly |
| 03:23.03 | itchi | _unhappy_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 03:23.19 | linux2 | anyone know anything about EISA here |
| 03:23.21 | g333k | Thaks, Another problem I have is that when I open a new tab of a terminal, the first line appear with the same background color of the prompt, but the next lines dont. why? |
| 03:23.30 | _unhappy_ | oh .. will it shut down the x server too |
| 03:23.36 | itchi | linux2: Ask, we see ;-) |
| 03:23.45 | linux2 | i need to figure out what location id my card has. ex 0x1000 |
| 03:23.50 | linux2 | i cannot figure this out |
| 03:24.04 | linux2 | or determine why cpqarray module is unable to find it |
| 03:24.09 | g333k | any suggestion simonrvn, cafuego ? |
| 03:24.10 | linux2 | this is causing a huge problem for me |
| 03:24.56 | tuv | _unhappy_, use the nvidia-legacy drivers |
| 03:25.11 | _unhappy_ | is that package in the repo |
| 03:25.54 | tuv | _unhappy_, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-kernel-legacy-<version> |
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| 03:27.02 | Etchmen | _unhappy_: have you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 03:27.11 | Etchmen | as # |
| 03:27.20 | _unhappy_ | no -- i haven't even install the drivers yet |
| 03:27.40 | Etchmen | you in Sarge? |
| 03:27.47 | _unhappy_ | yes |
| 03:27.49 | tuv | _unhappy_, hmm.. not for stable.. for testing and unstable only :( |
| 03:27.51 | Etchmen | oh |
| 03:28.14 | _unhappy_ | what ... the legacy |
| 03:28.14 | Etchmen | braudband? |
| 03:28.23 | _unhappy_ | are you saying that there's no nvidia-legacy for sarge |
| 03:28.23 | simonrvn | broad |
| 03:28.30 | Etchmen | yes sorry |
| 03:28.51 | simonrvn | 'thank you' is ok ;) |
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| 03:29.21 | sparr | can anyone name a good digital camera that supports a better filesystem than vfat/fat32 on memory cards? |
| 03:29.45 | linux2 | this is so aggrivating |
| 03:29.47 | Etchmen | _unhappy_: found it easier in Etch |
| 03:29.49 | linux2 | i have no idea how to fix this |
| 03:30.06 | linux2 | how can i even tell what i should be typing into eisa=0x????? |
| 03:30.11 | linux2 | i mean 6000 did something |
| 03:30.17 | linux2 | just said conflicting with something else |
| 03:30.21 | _unhappy_ | so where is etch .. i didn't see any link to it from debian site... can i built it from minimum CD or upgrade to it now |
| 03:30.27 | linux2 | the only thing running close to 0x6000 |
| 03:30.32 | linux2 | is 0x6c00 |
| 03:30.37 | linux2 | is it possible they are conflicting |
| 03:30.44 | Etchmen | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 03:30.53 | tuv | _unhappy_, you need to think about this step before you do it |
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| 03:31.17 | tuv | _unhappy_, but if you really want to use testing (etch), there is nothing easier in debian than an upgrade :) |
| 03:31.33 | linux2 | well screw it for now |
| 03:31.36 | linux2 | i will finish it later |
| 03:31.59 | Etchmen | _unhappy_: D/load only 1st cd and do a net install id you want kde 3.5.3 |
| 03:32.11 | Etchmen | if...helll |
| 03:32.36 | Etchmen | gnome is on 1st cd |
| 03:33.14 | setuid_w00t | Is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the way I should be generating an xorg.conf file? |
| 03:33.23 | tuv | yes |
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| 03:33.25 | _unhappy_ | why would i need to think about it |
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| 03:33.45 | _unhappy_ | i need to know how all this works |
| 03:33.46 | tuv | 'cuz it's less stable than stable |
| 03:34.23 | tuv | _unhappy_, nevertheless it works, and has been working perfectly for me since i started using debian :) |
| 03:34.29 | _unhappy_ | but it works for all of you.... |
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| 03:34.34 | _unhappy_ | beat me to it |
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| 03:34.53 | _unhappy_ | anyway ... why did they switch to x instead of xfree86 ... isn't x proprietary |
| 03:35.26 | tuv | _unhappy_, it's probably easier to re-install, unless you have some data on your system partition.. an upgrade is much more fun though |
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| 03:35.55 | cafuego | %$^%#%&%&! hardlocks |
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| 03:37.01 | itchi | Etchmen: Bad job, never never never tell/sugest an unexperience user to go to Etch |
| 03:37.17 | _unhappy_ | do you mean like smash my keyboard and break themonitor type of "fun" |
| 03:37.52 | _unhappy_ | i'm not that inexpirienced i just don't remmeber the details... i know unix works ... roughly |
| 03:37.57 | Etchmen | itchi: No way it has been solid |
| 03:38.13 | Etchmen | Sarge is DATED! |
| 03:38.39 | _unhappy_ | so do you recommend i should just go w/ suse ... isn't that the latest now |
| 03:38.42 | itchi | Etchmen: Give him you're phone number then, so he call you when he got some troubles and not could solve it or could get help here and that he can do the job with an guy here |
| 03:39.06 | tuv | _unhappy_, suse? nah |
| 03:39.52 | itchi | Etchmen: /Eventually/ tell him to go to that unstable Ubuntu, the time he learn a bit :-/ |
| 03:40.14 | _unhappy_ | well obviously i can't do lfs i always loved the debian philosophy ... but i heard it had some diferences in how it starts runlevels |
| 03:40.14 | buu | Anyone have an idea how I could debug a 'nfs mount failed, reason given by server; Permission Denied' problem? |
| 03:40.31 | killown | as load composite module in xorg? |
| 03:40.34 | tuv | _unhappy_, i can't stand the thought of using any other linux ever since i've experienced debian.. it's a little hard at first, but it's well worth it |
| 03:40.39 | itchi | buu: Permission Denied :-/ |
| 03:40.52 | buu | itchi: Um.. yes |
| 03:41.07 | itchi | buu: Permission right on the server, he could at least read ? |
| 03:41.16 | buu | itchi: Uh. What? |
| 03:41.24 | Etchmen | itchi: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/25/146242 |
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| 03:41.39 | tuv | buu, try exportfs -r on the server and then restart the nfs server |
| 03:42.06 | buu | tuv: Argh. Nothing's changed on the server though! |
| 03:42.56 | buu | tuv: Same error. |
| 03:42.57 | _unhappy_ | tuv, so i cannot use "legacy" on sarge, you don't recommend the upgrade, ... i have to use the nvidia installer... the problem is i dion't know if it's patched for 2.6.8 |
| 03:42.57 | tuv | buu, it worked for my when i had this problem.. and sometimes i'd need to rm /var/lib/nfs/{e,rm}tab |
| 03:43.10 | buu | tuv: On which box? |
| 03:43.18 | tuv | buu, the server |
| 03:43.26 | buu | How odd. |
| 03:43.52 | tuv | buu, then the exportfs -r and restart the nfs server |
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| 03:44.35 | tuv | _unhappy_, if it's a desktop machine, i.e. not a server, it's not a bad idea to upgrade to testing if you're willing to spend some time when needed |
| 03:44.58 | buu | tuv: No change. |
| 03:45.10 | tuv | _unhappy_, you'll have to learn a few things the hard way, but it's worth it if you're persistent enough |
| 03:45.40 | itchi | Etchmen: I read it no panic |
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| 03:45.49 | raden | i know this is a crazy question but as i contemplate with more and more people can someone tell me what demand linux fufills ? it seems like only thing i can come up with is stability and affordability |
| 03:46.07 | buu | raden: NO. IT IS A FESTERING CESSPOOL OF SATANISM. |
| 03:46.15 | raden | lol |
| 03:46.18 | mbishop | heh |
| 03:46.18 | tuv | raden, i'd add fun to the list |
| 03:46.30 | raden | tuv, in ways yeah |
| 03:46.35 | mbishop | the one thing that makes it better than windows, you can actually use it |
| 03:46.37 | mbishop | :) |
| 03:46.37 | raden | more cutomizable |
| 03:46.55 | raden | applications usually dont cost anything |
| 03:46.56 | buu | You know what would rock? IF nfs server HAD SOME FUCKING LOGS. |
| 03:47.09 | Etchmen | raden: no blue screen of death ...bonus |
| 03:47.13 | raden | buu, i had a script from freshmeat for that |
| 03:47.17 | MatBoy | how can I reconfigure hplip using the commandline ? |
| 03:47.20 | raden | Etchmen, Noted |
| 03:47.28 | tuv | buu, did you check syslog? |
| 03:48.16 | raden | any other good points anyone can add > |
| 03:48.29 | raden | kinda working on sales pitches etc.... and too see how people view liux |
| 03:48.34 | tuv | raden, are you writing a paper on the subject? |
| 03:48.51 | buu | tuv: I do see a "RPC: Failed to contact portmap, errno=-5" |
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| 03:49.06 | tuv | buu, is that on the server? |
| 03:49.10 | buu | Yes |
| 03:49.10 | Piet | eeevil |
| 03:49.18 | buu | tuv: But I can't possibly see why the problem would be on the server, it was working fine 10 minutes ago |
| 03:49.35 | Etchmen | itchi: please do not mention ubuntu,Its just not Debian , |
| 03:49.37 | unix_infidel | anyone know how i can bind a program in fluxbox to create a click action for the point exactly under the pointer. |
| 03:49.40 | Gnea | Piet: your mom. |
| 03:49.42 | tuv | buu, then why would it be on the client? hasn't it been working too? |
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| 03:49.57 | _unhappy_ | tuv... i'm gonna try to get out of x and just run nvidia installer scrip ... let's see... one more thing ... if i install something via script or source will apt-get/dpkg find out about it eventually |
| 03:50.03 | Piet | Gnea: yeah, she too, but most of all debhelper setting max users to 666 |
| 03:50.08 | itchi | Etchmen: If i have been understand he not especially need to go to Etch for his nvidea driver. Like in Etch it's also not available :-/ Notend on the link |
| 03:50.09 | buu | tuv: Yeah, it was working until I restarted it |
| 03:50.15 | tuv | _unhappy_, no |
| 03:50.24 | Gnea | Piet: you're smoking crack, that's just a coincidence. |
| 03:50.24 | _unhappy_ | so i have to remove manually |
| 03:50.33 | raden | tuv, no not at all actually im working on sales pitches for companies that are considering switching to linux and i just installed small biz server 2003 on a spare box to compare and it left me with alot of questions |
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| 03:50.47 | raden | then again i tell myself the average CEO never touches a server :) |
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| 03:51.02 | Piet | Gnea: no, i quit that, now i eat humans |
| 03:51.13 | Etchmen | itchi: point taken and I dare not mention Uncle sid |
| 03:51.19 | raden | tuv, I love linux to the core bro just need to have all the bases cover |
| 03:51.21 | Gnea | Piet: then it is you that is eeevil |
| 03:51.24 | itchi | Etchmen: It's an good article, in the sense he make good noise about Debian. But the spirit of Debian is to offer the maximumest stability. |
| 03:51.39 | raden | and i wish there was something to compare with active directory and is there a project group working on something like it ?> |
| 03:51.41 | Piet | Gnea: that is a sujective viewpoint |
| 03:51.50 | Etchmen | itchi: ok we agree on that |
| 03:51.52 | Gnea | Piet: subjective? indeed. |
| 03:51.54 | _unhappy_ | so far so good... by all see you manana |
| 03:51.57 | tuv | raden, a big advantage then for linux is that you can always get to the bottom of the problem even if it's an implementation bug (you have access to the souce). besides, usually bug fixes are possible by anyone, not only the company producing the software |
| 03:52.06 | itchi | Etchmen: So i still leave on my point to not suggest Testing to someone without knowlegdes about the system |
| 03:52.16 | raden | tuv, excellent point |
| 03:52.22 | Piet | Gnea: i ran out of arguments |
| 03:52.38 | Gnea | Piet: a lot brain cell count will do that. |
| 03:52.42 | Gnea | s/lot/low/g |
| 03:52.58 | simonrvn | i ran out of bbq sauce for the babies |
| 03:53.03 | itchi | Etchmen: I use Etch to, i like it a bit more than Sage, also for some raison. |
| 03:53.05 | simonrvn | oops, did i say that out loud? |
| 03:53.13 | Etchmen | itchi: True ,Am I granted bail now |
| 03:53.18 | Etchmen | he he |
| 03:53.37 | tuv | buu, i hate to suggest this, but i ran out of ideas, so: did you try restarting the server? |
| 03:53.41 | Piet | Gnea: so you're still learning to type? |
| 03:53.41 | raden | tuv, you have any idea what MS application server is ? |
| 03:54.08 | Gnea | Piet: no, i learned how to correct myself. |
| 03:54.11 | buu | tuv: I fucking found the problem. Somehow my ip changed. |
| 03:54.21 | tuv | raden, not really.. has been 2years+ since i last seriously used M$ products |
| 03:54.28 | freeone3000 | Ooh! Let me guess! It's an applications framework for deploying applications on a stable, windows-based platform! |
| 03:54.30 | buu | tuv: It's clearly fucking set to a specific static ip |
| 03:54.31 | Piet | Gnea: I didn't. Oh wait, yes, I did. |
| 03:54.35 | tuv | buu, oh man |
| 03:54.38 | Gnea | Piet: liar. |
| 03:54.40 | freeone3000 | Backed by microsoft's excellant support staff. |
| 03:54.53 | Piet | Gnea: I don't ever lie. |
| 03:55.12 | Gnea | 20:51 < Piet> Gnea: that is a sujective viewpoint |
| 03:55.15 | buu | tuv: Fancy that, everything friggin worked. |
| 03:55.21 | Gnea | anyway |
| 03:55.23 | simonrvn | ok. now, will the both of you be quiet please? it's disruptive |
| 03:55.23 | Gnea | next |
| 03:55.27 | Piet | Gnea: hehe, k you win |
| 03:55.45 | raden | tuv, basically what im trying todo is find what business's Linux would be most beneficial in ( basically my target market ) |
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| 03:56.07 | tuv | raden, that's an interesting study |
| 03:56.17 | freeone3000 | It's good when you want a box with no bugs, limited quirks, that's able to stay up for days at a time with little to no supervision. |
| 03:56.41 | freeone3000 | Oh, and it pwnzors as desktop too. Fast. :) |
| 03:56.57 | itchi | Etchmen: So you gave him your phone number :-p |
| 03:56.57 | tuv | raden, but linux's got some big guys behind it now, e.g. ibm, sun, hp,...etc. so it must have lots of potential for business |
| 03:57.14 | Etchmen | he in NZ |
| 03:57.22 | Etchmen | no prob |
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| 03:57.55 | raden | tuv, i think Novell is going to be the one to take it to the next level they have citrix and with the source from that only god knows what they can do to MS |
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| 03:58.01 | f0urtyfive | Hey, was wondering if anyone could tell me how to do a netinst of debian for x64... Do I just use an i386 netinst image, then an x64 install mirror? |
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| 03:58.24 | raden | i wish i understood active directory better |
| 03:59.31 | Etchmen | me tooo |
| 03:59.33 | tuv | raden, i've used it once or twice |
| 03:59.42 | Piet | I'm glad I do not need to understand it |
| 03:59.48 | f0urtyfive | active directory is the bane of my existance :P |
| 04:00.00 | raden | tuv, what are all the key features of active directory ? |
| 04:00.00 | tuv | you know the evil to avoid it :) |
| 04:00.22 | tuv | raden, that's a standard question for microsoft.com :) |
| 04:00.55 | f0urtyfive | found the answer :P |
| 04:01.21 | raden | tuv, alls i understand is its a way to authenticate |
| 04:01.50 | f0urtyfive | raden: the only thing I've ever liked about a MSFT setup, is Distributed File system |
| 04:02.38 | tuv | raden, the only additional thing i understand is that it manages resources: disk space, printers,...etc, in a hierarchy (they reused novell's idea there) |
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| 04:03.13 | f0urtyfive | raden: its basically a giant, customized LDAP that they store EVERYTHING in, and use kerberos to authenticate against |
| 04:03.26 | f0urtyfive | everything except files and email that is |
| 04:03.45 | tuv | right.. LDAP.. that's the closest thing to AD |
| 04:03.49 | raden | Miscrosoft has been stealing from the begining whats new |
| 04:04.12 | raden | apple stole from Xerox then MS stole from apple and then MS steals from IBM then from novell |
| 04:04.15 | f0urtyfive | tuv: no, thats what AD IS |
| 04:04.25 | simonrvn | no it isn't. ldap is only part of it, and they have their own "extensions" in AD |
| 04:04.28 | f0urtyfive | tuv: AD = an extended version of LDAP |
| 04:04.30 | f0urtyfive | well yeah |
| 04:04.33 | tuv | i think we're polluting this holy place with mentions of M$ :) |
| 04:04.38 | f0urtyfive | lol |
| 04:04.41 | raden | soo how bought we all go steal the source from MS :) |
| 04:04.56 | raden | Tuv were polluting for the good of linux |
| 04:05.06 | simonrvn | @kill M$ |
| 04:05.08 | f0urtyfive | personally, between Novell Netware and MSFT AD, I prefer netware by a long shot |
| 04:05.13 | raden | I converted 6 businesses over last year my goal 25 for this |
| 04:05.19 | simonrvn | aptitude: go away |
| 04:05.41 | raden | Novell has SUSE soo there changing the pace of things now |
| 04:06.00 | tuv | ravenbird, :D |
| 04:06.00 | ravenbird | i guess d is uninterruptible sleep (usually IO), or a letter of the alphabet |
| 04:06.35 | tuv | raden, how do you do the support part? that's the tricky one? |
| 04:06.48 | f0urtyfive | on that note, anyone feel like helping me figure out why processes are getting stuck in D and D+ here when using NFS? |
| 04:06.55 | itchi | apt-get remove --purge scratchi |
| 04:06.56 | raden | onsite service 24 hour gurantee |
| 04:06.58 | f0urtyfive | from a CentOS machine to a Deb machine? |
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| 04:08.20 | tuv | itchi, is that why? or was it itchi too? |
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| 04:09.59 | Supaplex | i think google is fuxored 7 ways from sunday |
| 04:11.00 | rhys | God can do no wrong. |
| 04:11.05 | rhys | ask the baptists |
| 04:11.10 | rhys | google=God |
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| 04:11.27 | whafro | Hey everyone... I already have the qmail-src package installed, and I want to install postfix-tls on an additional port... is there a way to override the requirement that if postfix gets installed that qmail will be uninstalled? |
| 04:12.17 | Supaplex | I guess i'll use something else. screw google and their down time. |
| 04:14.32 | rhys | works fine for me Supaplex |
| 04:14.56 | Piet | whafro: there is a way, but you shouldn't do that unless you know exactly what it means to do that. |
| 04:15.16 | Supaplex | oh that's right, google is one fscking webserver now. gee, it should work for me to. |
| 04:15.32 | whafro | Piet: exactly what it means to override the mta requirement or exactly what it means to have two mtas? |
| 04:15.58 | Supaplex | nm that. just annoyed. :) |
| 04:16.37 | Supaplex | that's unless google is anti lynx... |
| 04:17.08 | rhys | yea. everyone is anti lynx. |
| 04:17.10 | Piet | whafro: you'll run into trouble if they both listen on the same ports, but that's the minor problem. the real issue is that you need to partially break the package management system to do it, and that may lead to unexpected results as soon as other dependencies get into the play. |
| 04:17.47 | Piet | whafro: you may also run into trouble witht he sendmail interface, as you'll have two of them having the same name |
| 04:17.59 | whafro | right, I want them to be on different ports (587, as per rfcs) |
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| 04:19.18 | Piet | and you will have issues with local email delivery, as which of the MTAs is authrative for delivering local mail is not defined |
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| 04:20.44 | PumpkinPie | why does using tcpdump drop packets? 5816 packets captured | 13691 packets received by filter | 1935 packets dropped by kernel |
| 04:20.47 | whafro | god, this is annoying... I just want to have an smtpd with tls and auth that I can get to from anywhere that's separate from my normal smtpd instance (qmail) that is greylisted... |
| 04:21.00 | [Seawolf] | hi all |
| 04:21.05 | whafro | someone else must have a need for that... it must be a reasonable thing to want |
| 04:21.36 | rhys | anyone know much about Xen? |
| 04:22.14 | Piet | whafro: why do you want to have seperate mtas for that? |
| 04:22.32 | Stevie-O | PumpkinPie: It happens if your filter catches too many packets, so they come in at a rate faster than the program can process them |
| 04:23.10 | PumpkinPie | Stevie: why is it 'processing' anything? it doesn't have to do anything |
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| 04:23.23 | nekostar | arg !!! |
| 04:23.29 | nekostar | i managed to bork my debian in my _remote_ server |
| 04:23.30 | whafro | Piet: because of the greylisting... if it's rejecting my first attempt to send a message through it when I'm at a new IP (I'd usually be using my Palm, and the IP changes by the minute), it'd make me wait 10 mins, which is unacceptable |
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| 04:23.59 | nekostar | when i try to login to a user shell [i can log in via ssh to root acct only] i get error " no shell " |
| 04:24.05 | nekostar | any clues as to what could do that ? |
| 04:24.06 | whafro | Piet: also, I've used qmail for years, and my configuration is now somewhat invested in it, and there don't seem to be good debian packages for qmail with auth and tls anyway... |
| 04:24.07 | Piet | whafro: tunnel it |
| 04:24.39 | Supaplex | nekostar: broken libs. try specifying a shell. ssh box /bin/sh |
| 04:24.47 | whafro | Piet: how do you mean? |
| 04:25.06 | nekostar | ok ill try thanx Supaplex |
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| 04:25.38 | Supaplex | nekostar: just an idea. :) |
| 04:25.40 | Piet | whafro: connect to your mail server on a different port, you only, and have it pass on your email to the local qmail port |
| 04:26.10 | Piet | whafro: i.e. setup an access restricted proxy on your mail server |
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| 04:26.33 | falkon | I have a weird issue. I haven't messed with anything, but I rebooted and now none of my settings in the xfce window manager are being remembered, and my soundcard shows up, but I can't play music with XMMS, because it's saying there's a sound problem. Any ideas? |
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| 04:27.50 | nekostar | Could not chdir to home directory /home/starz: Permission denied |
| 04:27.50 | nekostar | /bin/bash: Permission denied |
| 04:27.55 | nekostar | :/ |
| 04:28.07 | falkon | Also, when I envoke /etc/init.d/alsa reload, it does nothing, absolutely nothing |
| 04:28.19 | whafro | Piet: hmm, interesting idea... since I'm trying to get this done for tomorrow morning (when I'm on the road), do you have suggestions for packages to get this done toute suite? |
| 04:28.26 | falkon | I'm beginning to think they really screwed the pooch with debian |
| 04:28.42 | cat | not really |
| 04:28.46 | cat | debian is still debian |
| 04:29.08 | falkon | they just fucked a bunch of parts up that used to work together? |
| 04:29.20 | falkon | that's why I liked debian, it works |
| 04:29.33 | cat | maybe is the kernel, |
| 04:29.41 | cat | try looking for any errors, it can be a bug, |
| 04:29.43 | cat | never know |
| 04:29.50 | falkon | i'll check again |
| 04:29.53 | msn | falkon: try reconfiguring alsa |
| 04:30.02 | falkon | msn: good idea |
| 04:30.14 | msn | it generally happens when the application is not configured |
| 04:30.23 | msn | or configured badly |
| 04:30.32 | msn | alsaconf should fix it |
| 04:30.59 | falkon | it WAS working, but it did get upgraded |
| 04:31.03 | falkon | maybe it borked |
| 04:31.11 | msn | it happens after upgrade |
| 04:31.15 | falkon | also, xfce is no longer remembering any settings I make |
| 04:31.18 | Piet | whafro: afraid not so, however, there is socks4-server in debian |
| 04:31.18 | msn | you using sid or etch? |
| 04:31.21 | falkon | etch |
| 04:31.27 | msn | thought so. |
| 04:31.34 | msn | you did a dist-upgrade or upgrade? |
| 04:31.48 | falkon | dist-upgrade was doen from stable to testing |
| 04:32.01 | msn | well then start configuring apps |
| 04:32.07 | falkon | gotcha |
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| 04:32.12 | cat | anyone here has a prism54 that's using under debian |
| 04:32.12 | falkon | I didn't know bout that |
| 04:32.14 | msn | coz stable to testing will break lots of stuff once |
| 04:32.29 | msn | once you configure it it would work again |
| 04:32.40 | msn | try dpkg --configure -a |
| 04:32.46 | falkon | msn: one thing, do you know how to use the actual 'nvidia' driver rather than 'nv' in etch? |
| 04:32.54 | msn | yup |
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| 04:33.07 | msn | do you have the kernel headers? |
| 04:33.13 | falkon | msn: yes |
| 04:33.38 | falkon | and I did the whole shebang minus installing nvidia-glx |
| 04:33.47 | msn | falkon: in most cases when you run their script it detects the headers |
| 04:34.04 | msn | you may need to set some environment variables if it does not |
| 04:34.24 | falkon | WOAH |
| 04:34.35 | falkon | Viktor:/home/falkon# dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
| 04:34.35 | falkon | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-base is broken or not fully installed |
| 04:34.47 | falkon | that doesn't sound good |
| 04:35.01 | msn | once it is down, its better to reboot and let the kernel load the module, I have tried loading the module with insmod nvidia doesn't work |
| 04:35.08 | msn | falkon: apt-get -f install |
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| 04:35.18 | Vasistha | cat: just ask your question, people aren't usually very responsive to "does someone have such-and-such" |
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| 04:35.34 | msn | falkon: this should fix ay broken packages |
| 04:35.38 | falkon | msn: nm, it was a BS response, alsa-base wasn't the correct package name |
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| 04:36.09 | msn | for nvidia after rebooting you just open the xorg config file and replce nv with nvidia |
| 04:36.11 | msn | it works |
| 04:36.44 | msn | reload gdm or kdm whatever you use by /etc/init.d/gdm(kdm) |
| 04:36.48 | msn | restart |
| 04:36.54 | falkon | I don't use a session manager |
| 04:37.07 | Vasistha | !ping |
| 04:37.07 | dpkg | pong |
| 04:37.14 | msn | well in that case once you change the nv to nvidia it would work |
| 04:37.23 | msn | when you start X |
| 04:37.39 | falkon | I'll try |
| 04:37.41 | falkon | I need to reboot |
| 04:37.50 | msn | for? |
| 04:38.04 | msn | you don't need to reboot unless you are reloading nvidia |
| 04:38.08 | falkon | I am |
| 04:38.12 | msn | k |
| 04:40.10 | SerajewelKS | can anyone confirm that with the latest firefox in testing, holding down SHIFT and double-clicking text makes it be removed from the page? |
| 04:40.21 | tuv | you never need to reboot |
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| 04:40.38 | SerajewelKS | you only need to reboot if you're upgrading the kernel |
| 04:40.47 | SerajewelKS | or if some kernel module gets stuck and won't unload |
| 04:40.58 | tuv | well.. someone was advised to reboot for reloading nvidia |
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| 04:41.08 | msn | well the nvidia proprietery module won't load properly |
| 04:41.15 | msn | I have had isssues with it |
| 04:41.15 | SerajewelKS | msn: yes it will |
| 04:41.23 | SerajewelKS | msn: i've never had issues with it |
| 04:41.57 | msn | I have had issues in the beginning when I first install the module |
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| 04:42.03 | msn | after that upgrades work fine |
| 04:42.17 | msn | but the first time, it won't load |
| 04:42.36 | msn | that happened with sid a year ago |
| 04:42.57 | SerajewelKS | msn: tried recently? |
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| 04:43.10 | msn | well its been working fine recently |
| 04:43.20 | SerajewelKS | msn: a lot of things get fixed in a year |
| 04:43.24 | msn | I know |
| 04:43.31 | msn | and with sid you can't be sure |
| 04:43.42 | msn | they may be fixed |
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| 04:43.52 | msn | they may have broken again after being fixed |
| 04:44.04 | ice_1963 | msn. are you running sid or etch ? |
| 04:44.31 | msn | sid |
| 04:44.34 | ice_1963 | or sarge |
| 04:44.38 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 04:44.41 | msn | i like things to break |
| 04:44.49 | msn | then I get to learn how to fix them |
| 04:44.52 | msn | :P |
| 04:44.58 | ice_1963 | :) |
| 04:45.10 | msn | its better than breaking things myself |
| 04:45.16 | msn | then I know what to fix |
| 04:45.33 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 04:45.40 | msn | now I can rely on sid to break one or the other package since everyday I do a dist-upgrade |
| 04:45.50 | msn | so something or other breaks every week |
| 04:47.10 | itchi | SerajewelKS: I got not it |
| 04:47.11 | Supaplex | !break $msn->bankaccount |
| 04:47.22 | Supaplex | hah |
| 04:47.33 | Supaplex | I was hoping for violence. but it'll have to do. |
| 04:47.36 | msn | nah I love it this way |
| 04:48.02 | msn | i like stable |
| 04:48.07 | msn | I got it on my servers |
| 04:48.12 | msn | the developers run etch |
| 04:48.13 | itchi | SerajewelKS: ii mozilla-firefo 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0 Transition package for firefox rename |
| 04:48.20 | msn | but I prefer etch |
| 04:48.30 | msn | i prefer sid |
| 04:50.11 | SerajewelKS | itchi: dpkg -l firefox |
| 04:50.36 | itchi | SerajewelKS: ii firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla |
| 04:50.59 | SerajewelKS | itchi: the version number is being truncated |
| 04:51.02 | rhys | is there a way to use apt-get with cds, only not have the cds? have the ISOs mounted to a directory? |
| 04:51.32 | itchi | SerajewelKS: Which one have you? |
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| 04:57.01 | rhys | ?? |
| 04:57.08 | five0 | msn: so which is it, sid or etch? |
| 04:57.35 | zeeeee | hi all, i have a script in /etc/init.d/ which i'd like to have run on startup. what was the debian command that i should use (it's used to manage init.d scripts)? |
| 04:58.15 | zeeeee | update-rc.d? |
| 04:58.25 | unix_infidel | anyone know how i can bind a flux keybind to allow for a click action RIGHT BELOW where the current cursor is located. |
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| 05:01.25 | five0 | zeeeee: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 |
| 05:01.42 | five0 | zeeeee: update-rc.d foobar defaults |
| 05:01.50 | rhys | does anyone know how to make sources.lst use an ISO file? |
| 05:01.55 | rhys | not an actuall cd? |
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| 05:04.20 | streuner | rhys: apt-cdrom add? |
| 05:04.38 | rhys | no...not a cdrom though. an ISO file stored on the hdd |
| 05:04.44 | rhys | i dont want to change CDs |
| 05:04.58 | rhys | i simple want it to take the ISOs from a file |
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| 05:05.28 | streuner | !own repo |
| 05:05.28 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
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| 05:07.49 | rhys | hmmdedum |
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| 05:09.33 | rhys | so what it uses...is a packagelist made by dpkg-scanpackages in the form of Packages.gz, the simply add that file to sources.list? |
| 05:09.41 | rhys | thats.. |
| 05:09.42 | rhys | wow |
| 05:11.12 | AI_coder | How does debian know which architecture packages it should get? |
| 05:11.37 | AI_coder | Also is there a program that can determine which architecture you're running? |
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| 05:12.49 | rhys | ty streuner. :D |
| 05:13.57 | five0 | AI_coder: uname -a for the latter? |
| 05:14.29 | five0 | uname -m |
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| 05:15.56 | AI_coder | It says i686 but cat /proc/cpu tells me it's an opteron 64. |
| 05:16.27 | AI_coder | cpuinfo... |
| 05:19.22 | rhys | whoa |
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| 05:19.50 | Etchmen | hell |
| 05:19.51 | rhys | wow |
| 05:19.51 | rhys | wipeout |
| 05:19.51 | SerajewelKS | cougar`: we don't care |
| 05:19.51 | cougar` | LOL |
| 05:19.51 | SerajewelKS | rhys: it's called a netsplit |
| 05:19.51 | cougar` | Sorry about that |
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| 05:19.52 | cougar` | That was supposed to be in a diff channel but I brought this channel to the front |
| 05:19.52 | cougar` | to see what was goin' on |
| 05:19.52 | rhys | yes i know SerajewelKS |
| 05:19.52 | rhys | it was just rather large |
| 05:19.52 | rhys | and i rarely see them in freenode |
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| 05:19.53 | brothers | !last |
| 05:19.53 | dpkg | well, last is easier ;) |
| 05:19.54 | brothers | last brothers |
| 05:20.13 | rhys | i was on zerolimit for a long time. they split every other hour. it was pathetic |
| 05:20.27 | five0 | cougar`: the slipup might have been allowed had it been in good taste |
| 05:20.41 | cougar` | ? |
| 05:20.54 | cougar` | What are you talkin' about? |
| 05:21.03 | cougar` | Good taste? |
| 05:21.09 | rhys | :\ |
| 05:21.44 | rhys | ^^ good taste |
| 05:21.47 | cougar` | FOrget this... I apologized, but for some reason my slipup was noticed among 400 some users joining the channel |
| 05:22.03 | cougar` | Whyu is that good taste? |
| 05:22.04 | rhys | lol. the song sucked that much |
| 05:22.08 | cougar` | Oh |
| 05:22.13 | cougar` | Well I can't control the song |
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| 05:22.17 | cougar` | I'm listneing to a URL track |
| 05:22.31 | rhys | its Rob Zombie. of course its a great song. :D XM 42 |
| 05:22.40 | rhys | Squizz! |
| 05:23.15 | cougar` | Well the broadcast was automatic, that specific song I doubt I would annouce on purpose, LOL :P |
| 05:23.58 | rhys | ....SQUIZZ! |
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| 05:24.58 | SerajewelKS | haha... dig +short -x $(dig +short www.thepiratebay.org) |
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| 05:34.03 | Etchmen | http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lbrash/msjokes/msjokes.html |
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| 05:39.51 | xsquared | hello |
| 05:40.07 | xsquared | has anyone actually installed ejabberd under debian stable? |
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| 05:40.16 | xsquared | i am having great difficulty with erlang |
| 05:40.23 | kodsa | is openoffice a gnome app? |
| 05:40.30 | xsquared | kodsa, no |
| 05:40.57 | kodsa | xsquared, which app is it then? |
| 05:41.01 | xsquared | kodsa, its independant |
| 05:41.28 | insmod | kodsa: sun solaris microsystems |
| 05:41.28 | Vasistha | kodsa: OOo is kind of on its own, it was developed by a German company independent of anything else, and does not integrate all that well with anything else. It's considered difficult to contribute to, because the code is not at all standard |
| 05:41.42 | kodsa | xsquared, how do i change the fontsize of openoffice's menu bar? |
| 05:41.43 | Vasistha | wait, is that totally wrong?? |
| 05:42.17 | Vasistha | I think I'm confusing that part about the German Company with some other project, but I believe most of my other claims are true ;-) |
| 05:42.22 | insmod | Vasistha: it is sun solaris |
| 05:42.51 | kodsa | how do i change the fontsize of openoffice's menu bar? |
| 05:43.35 | insmod | kodsa: what do you mean -- icon size? |
| 05:43.36 | kodsa | which are the more popular spredsheets for linux? |
| 05:43.52 | insmod | kodsa: any work |
| 05:43.56 | kodsa | insmod, the line with 'File', Edit'... |
| 05:44.24 | kodsa | and those subsequent menus. |
| 05:44.35 | insmod | kodsa: that should be set with dpi defaults |
| 05:45.09 | kodsa | insmod, all my apps fonts are ok but OO's are too small. |
| 05:45.23 | insmod | kodsa: do you have 100 size installed |
| 05:45.36 | kodsa | insmod, how to set the dpi? |
| 05:45.52 | insmod | kodsa: OO is the open source of staroffice |
| 05:45.59 | insmod | kodsa: do you have 100 size installed |
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| 05:46.11 | kodsa | how to tell? |
| 05:46.40 | insmod | kodsa: look in xf86 or xorg and see if it is listed in font list |
| 05:47.25 | kodsa | insmod, xorg.conf? |
| 05:47.40 | gentgeen__ | kodsa: yes |
| 05:47.46 | insmod | kodsa: ya are the 100 fonts there |
| 05:48.05 | kodsa | no, what to add in? |
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| 05:48.50 | insmod | kodsa: then install them then add the line-- if you add them above 75 ( netscape hack) all is well |
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| 05:49.37 | mrkris | anyone here install the ATI drivers from the ATI site? |
| 05:49.46 | kodsa | insmod, what is the exact thing to add to xorg.conf? |
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| 05:50.00 | mrkris | i'm trying to install, but the gui it runs .. well .. it doesn't fit on my screen so i don't know what the freakin way is to goto the next screen lol |
| 05:50.20 | coward | do the default debian kernsl ahve fuse support? |
| 05:50.22 | coward | i.e. can I plug in fuse libraries and expect stuff to work? |
| 05:50.22 | insmod | mrkris: did then got rid off it because they suck -- nvidia was 20x faster |
| 05:50.37 | mrkris | insmod: that's fine and dandy, but it's my laptop thnx |
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| 05:50.53 | insmod | mrkris: :) |
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| 05:51.15 | insmod | kodsa: you need to install them first |
| 05:51.29 | gentgeen__ | coward: depends on which default kernel? 2.6 = yes |
| 05:51.31 | kodsa | insmod, what is the package name? |
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| 05:52.03 | insmod | kodsa: you can look it up -- it's with font sizes |
| 05:52.31 | insmod | kodsa: just look in synaptic |
| 05:52.46 | kodsa | insmod, ok, thks. |
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| 05:53.24 | insmod | mrkris: so what was the question -- i did install it so i may know |
| 05:53.42 | [Seawolf] | hi all |
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| 05:58.24 | mrkris | insmod: the gui -- it is stretched beyond my screen, i can't hotkey the continue button lol |
| 05:59.14 | insmod | mrkris: console? |
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| 06:05.51 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:05.51 | dpkg | methinks qotd142 is <greycat> BIG FUCKING HUGE MISTAKE telling me you have gcc 4.0 and that you can't fucking read the FAQ. |
| 06:08.28 | shogunx | heh heh |
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| 06:10.53 | tuv | man.. qotd78 is one hell of a quote XD |
| 06:12.31 | liable | tuv: 108 is one of my favourites |
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| 06:15.49 | optraz | hello all, i have many users in my debian box. now what is the best way to create a folder where all this users can share their content in that dir alone? fyi, each user dont have permission rwx on other user homedir |
| 06:17.05 | liable | make it group users and put them all in it? |
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| 06:19.10 | flamesrock | hey, does anyone know why xorg wouldn't be loading xvideo extensions? |
| 06:19.13 | flamesrock | I'm using nvidia |
| 06:19.21 | Tallu | insmod: too bad we have ears and eyes everywhere. |
| 06:19.34 | insmod | Tallu: ya |
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| 06:21.55 | optraz | liable: are all the users i created is under staff group? if so, i dont need to create a group and add the user into the group manually ? |
| 06:22.56 | tuv | oh.. don'y you miss qotd140.. man these qotd are incredible |
| 06:22.58 | Vasistha | optraz: I like to create a folder at the root level called /Docs or /Data (with capital for no tab completion conflict) ... give it the user sticky bit, and make sure everyone is using a umask 002 rather than 022 |
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| 06:24.11 | liable | optraz: sure that seems ok |
| 06:24.30 | unix_infidel | anyone here use gnuchess to play on FICS? |
| 06:25.00 | unix_infidel | or 3dchess etc etc |
| 06:25.00 | optraz | liable how to set chmod to s ? where this s is suspected to be staff |
| 06:25.13 | solid_liq | anyone know how to set the sizes of columns in an html table? |
| 06:25.50 | optraz | liable: are you sure every users are under staff ? |
| 06:25.55 | liable | optraz: huh? set the owner to whoever and group to staff, and make it rwx for group |
| 06:26.06 | Vasistha | optraz: it means "sticky", and it makes it so that the group that owns the directory will own files created in the directory |
| 06:26.12 | liable | optraz: oh, i thought you said you already had them all in that group. |
| 06:26.35 | unix_infidel | anyone? |
| 06:26.37 | liable | optraz: i have no idea what groups your users are in.. |
| 06:26.39 | i3dmaster | anyone upgraded xserver-xorg to 7.0.22 and xserver-xorg-core to 1.0.2-8? |
| 06:26.45 | optraz | liable: by default staff is in every debian |
| 06:26.46 | unix_infidel | i'm just looking for a way to use a local chess app instead of a java based one. |
| 06:27.09 | unix_infidel | and connect to FICS or similar without registering. |
| 06:27.13 | Vasistha | optraz: you might consider using a different group, though -- make one up |
| 06:27.53 | liable | optraz: maybe, but normal users arent automatically put in it. thats why i suggested 'users', though they arent automatically put in that either.. |
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| 06:28.16 | optraz | liable: okay |
| 06:29.28 | optraz | liable: nope. have tried, i guess have to be manually |
| 06:29.29 | optraz | hehe |
| 06:29.35 | i3dmaster | I have problem generating xorg.conf file with the new xserver-xorg |
| 06:30.17 | optraz | i3dmaster: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:30.44 | i3dmaster | optraz, I did. but there is no xorg.conf file got generated. |
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| 06:30.54 | streuner | liable: heh, .au is in the last 16 :-) |
| 06:30.56 | i3dmaster | i3dmaster, was able to do that before the upgrade |
| 06:31.09 | i3dmaster | optraz, was able to do that before the upgrade |
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| 06:31.26 | i3dmaster | xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized |
| 06:31.30 | optraz | i3dmaster: do this , apt-get install --reintsall xserver-xorg |
| 06:31.46 | i3dmaster | optraz, ok. let me try |
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| 06:33.20 | i3dmaster | optraz, the same. the last line of the output is :xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized |
| 06:33.56 | i3dmaster | optraz, /etc/X11/X is a symlink to /usr/bin/Xorg binary file |
| 06:34.10 | liable | streuner: :D was a good game. i missed the first half though |
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| 06:34.59 | i3dmaster | optraz, and it belongs to xserver-xorg-core, so Im not sure why xserver-xorg needs to update that |
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| 06:37.54 | optraz | i3dmaster: i have no idea ;( |
| 06:38.16 | i3dmaster | optraz, do you know where I can find the postinst script for xserver-xorg? |
| 06:39.05 | optraz | optraz apt-cache search ? |
| 06:39.52 | i3dmaster | search for what? |
| 06:40.38 | optraz | liable i have created a group and add all users into that group. now i created a dir and |
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| 06:40.44 | optraz | liable: forget about that |
| 06:42.34 | kodsa | anyone knows how many debian users are there now? |
| 06:44.59 | Etchmen | pass |
| 06:45.07 | Etchmen | ??? how many? |
| 06:45.19 | kodsa | no one can tell how many debian users there are? |
| 06:45.25 | Etchmen | true |
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| 06:45.47 | Etchmen | Is bunto debian |
| 06:45.50 | Etchmen | ??? |
| 06:46.00 | sep | Etchmen, no, but it's based on the work of debian |
| 06:46.09 | kodsa | i would only consider original debian. |
| 06:46.39 | Etchmen | true so do they contribute to the development of Debian? |
| 06:46.49 | Etchmen | packages etc? |
| 06:47.18 | sep | kodsa, what about large companies/official goverments that use debian with thir own preseeding and some custom package, essensialy making thir own ccd. are they debian or not ? |
| 06:47.23 | kodsa | i am interested about the statistics, not the nature of what or what is not debian. |
| 06:47.23 | Etchmen | I have tried latest ubuntu and mepis |
| 06:47.39 | Etchmen | lol |
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| 06:48.12 | liable | i forgot about that then :) |
| 06:48.14 | kodsa | the statistics would be categorised as debian, then the various variants. |
| 06:48.17 | Etchmen | One must not count what is not Debian |
| 06:48.18 | cahoot | kodsa: you'll only get biased estimates |
| 06:48.26 | setuid_w00t | I have noticed that if I do an apt-cache show pkg, there is a section at the bottom that has various tags. How can I list all of the packages that match a certain tag? |
| 06:48.35 | sep | kodsa, as long as each machine dont call home how the heck can one figure out a number |
| 06:48.56 | Etchmen | ask microsoft |
| 06:48.58 | Etchmen | he he |
| 06:49.13 | Etchmen | they would have some figures |
| 06:49.19 | kodsa | we got to start somewhere. initially, the stats would be raw. |
| 06:49.23 | liable | setuid_w00t: hrm, aptitude is prolly what you want |
| 06:49.35 | kodsa | we can refine it as we go along. |
| 06:49.46 | setuid_w00t | liable: I have aptitude, but I don't know how to search for a tag |
| 06:49.52 | Etchmen | ok so back to Ubuntu ,,,,,It is barely debian |
| 06:50.01 | sep | kodsa, the machines running popcon would be aesy to count. :) but that's probably very very few |
| 06:50.02 | Etchmen | count it ,,think not |
| 06:50.17 | liable | setuid_w00t: what do you mean by tag? and i mean the interactive mode, not cli mode |
| 06:51.02 | setuid_w00t | liable: if I do apt-cache show amarok, the last line is: ag: interface::x11, role::sw:application, sound::player, suite::kde, uitoolkit::qt, use::playing, works-with::audio, x11::application |
| 06:51.03 | kodsa | i am quite surprise that no one has been monitoring debian's users. |
| 06:51.23 | Etchmen | ok I will |
| 06:51.25 | setuid_w00t | liable: that should have been "tag: ..." |
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| 06:51.39 | sep | kodsa, why should anyone bother ? :) |
| 06:51.43 | kodsa | Etchmen, great, do a good job, pls. |
| 06:52.15 | Etchmen | well its like counting pop corn |
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| 06:52.21 | kodsa | sep, matter of curiosity, matter of pride, matter of competition... |
| 06:52.57 | Etchmen | kodsa: you a buntu usr? |
| 06:53.13 | kodsa | Etchmen, no, i am genuine debian. |
| 06:53.17 | liable | setuid_w00t: i see, i dont know actually. |
| 06:53.23 | sep | curiousity killed the cat ; pride is a figment of your imagination ; competition is for companies not comunities |
| 06:53.32 | Etchmen | ok thats 2 me and you so far |
| 06:53.43 | Etchmen | how am I doin? |
| 06:53.53 | Etchmen | lol |
| 06:53.59 | roxy_ | Hi, the pwc-source package (a driver for webcam) is not working. I contacted the writer who sent me a working tarball of it. What can I do for this tarball to reach the proper debian person ? |
| 06:54.13 | kodsa | Etchmen, great, for a start. |
| 06:54.20 | kodsa | Etchmen, count the chat list. |
| 06:54.22 | roxy_ | (writer of the driver, not the debian package) |
| 06:54.35 | kodsa | Etchmen, do an online survey. |
| 06:54.48 | sep | roxy_, apt-cache show pwc-source |
| 06:55.06 | kodsa | what's the diff between aptitude and apt-get? |
| 06:55.20 | Etchmen | But is ubuntu really debian ? |
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| 06:55.39 | Etchmen | coz it does not like deb repos |
| 06:55.41 | roxy_ | sep: thanks |
| 06:56.04 | kodsa | Etchmen, initially, accept anything based on debian as debian, can refine later. |
| 06:56.35 | kodsa | what's the diff between aptitude and apt-get? |
| 06:56.36 | liable | !based on debian |
| 06:56.49 | sep | liable, it's gone i cant find it either |
| 06:56.49 | liable | dpkg: wake up |
| 06:56.51 | dpkg | liable: I'm already awake! :) |
| 06:56.51 | Etchmen | Ever seen a no strings attached generous millioaire? |
| 06:56.58 | liable | hrm |
| 06:57.04 | sep | kodsa, aptitude is smarter |
| 06:57.35 | kodsa | i think it just has one letter more, that's all. |
| 06:57.40 | sep | kodsa, it tracs packages installed as dependencies of others and remove then when unneeded, it suggers ways to solve dependency problems youv gotten yourself into. |
| 06:57.58 | sep | it have a gui for the less cli oriented |
| 06:58.01 | liable | its good |
| 06:58.08 | kodsa | apt-get also suggest way, like -f. |
| 06:58.16 | liable | no |
| 06:58.20 | sep | kodsa, and it's the recomended apt tool for sarge and later |
| 06:58.20 | kodsa | and sometimes, it bomb out the system. |
| 06:58.21 | liable | not the same |
| 06:58.30 | sep | -f is evil should never be used |
| 06:58.52 | Etchmen | dpkg-I-am crap-@-multitasking |
| 06:58.55 | kodsa | apt-get update and aptitude update is different? |
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| 07:00.06 | sep | kodsa, use on of them and stick with it. do not flip back and forth, |
| 07:00.21 | Etchmen | ok synaptic |
| 07:00.31 | Etchmen | and apt |
| 07:00.39 | Etchmen | damn thats 2 |
| 07:01.38 | liable | synaptic is a front end for apt-get |
| 07:01.46 | Etchmen | exactly |
| 07:02.20 | unix_infidel | how do i save a game in vba? |
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| 07:03.10 | kodsa | so, there is apt-get, aptitude and synaptic. when to use which? |
| 07:03.57 | liable | for this discussion, you can say synaptic and apt-get are the same thing |
| 07:04.12 | Etchmen | seriously pick one,of the two |
| 07:04.15 | liable | use whatever you want, we just told you about aptitude |
| 07:04.29 | kodsa | is mpalyer pre8 available for etch? |
| 07:04.34 | Etchmen | and save any confusion |
| 07:04.42 | sep | !mplayer |
| 07:04.42 | dpkg | i guess mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 07:05.05 | AI_coder | Has anyone had a database driven website with mason? |
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| 07:06.22 | kodsa | sep, that's shit. |
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| 07:06.42 | sep | kodsa, i'd recomend using aptitude, just becouse the releasenotes of sarge used aptitude it'd expect it to be the method for etch too |
| 07:07.02 | sep | kodsa, debian only package free software. |
| 07:07.08 | kodsa | aye, aye sir. |
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| 07:07.28 | stranger_stone | Hello |
| 07:07.34 | kodsa | sep, mplayer is FREE. |
| 07:07.40 | sep | kodsa, mplayer have some unresolved legal issues, so you can either, use one of the many alternatives. |
| 07:07.48 | Shadur_ | ~tell sep about marillat |
| 07:07.50 | sep | or use marillats unofficial media repo |
| 07:08.05 | falkon | <3 marillat |
| 07:08.07 | sep | Shadur_, tell it to kodsa |
| 07:08.18 | kodsa | sep, the issue is with the codecs. vlc would have the same legal issue. |
| 07:08.57 | Shadur | kodsa: marillat makes a set of gstreamer plugins as well that cover faad (apple's audio codec) among others. |
| 07:09.35 | sep | kodsa, http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/mplayer.html#whynot ' |
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| 07:09.52 | sep | it's a whole long story. read it yourself |
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| 07:10.45 | kodsa | sep, thks, i m going to read that. bye. |
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| 07:11.48 | msn | what tool do I use for ipod in debian |
| 07:12.39 | Vasistha | msn: gtkpod |
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| 07:23.10 | tuv | doesn't amarok handle ipods? amarok is the best |
| 07:23.29 | vivekvc | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.05 | liable | vivekvc: i have no idea why, but that unstable thing is on all sarge cd sources. |
| 07:27.04 | liable | vivekvc: i also dont know why they havent changed it. ask in #debian-boot if anyone knows why, it should be those guys |
| 07:27.31 | azeem | -boot might be on OFTC these days |
| 07:27.39 | liable | oh, is it |
| 07:29.57 | liable | heh, the follow ups say the same thing :) |
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| 07:30.26 | epsilon | stupid decision to link irc.debian to OFTC |
| 07:30.38 | vivekvc | liable: Thanks |
| 07:30.48 | liable | well, it is a debian network. |
| 07:30.50 | epsilon | just 100 ppl moved from here and now everythings splitted |
| 07:30.51 | liable | vivekvc: yw |
| 07:31.03 | azeem | epsilon: I think -boot was on OFTC well before the split |
| 07:31.08 | liable | epsilon: i do however agree :P |
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| 07:33.02 | _lester_ | grub quickie: can grub be installed in a xfs partition? |
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| 07:35.29 | sep | _lester_, the grub boot loader must be on the boot record of a partition, or the MBR of a disk, the files of grub can be on one of the currently supported filesystem types , that are BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, JFS, XFS, and VSTa fs. |
| 07:36.22 | azeem | sep: are you sure Grub supports reading XFS? |
| 07:36.26 | azeem | I thought there were issues |
| 07:36.35 | _lester_ | thanks sep. Last time I tried (~2 months ago) I couldn't get it to work. (with a netinstall cd). |
| 07:36.41 | liable | i would say that was from a doc somewhere :) |
| 07:37.00 | _lester_ | yeah i think the problem is still there. |
| 07:37.09 | roxy_ | sep: you should teach it to dpkg |
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| 07:37.20 | azeem | sep: where is that from? |
| 07:37.24 | sep | azeem, that's frmo the grub page the version in sarge is obviously older |
| 07:37.34 | azeem | which grub page? |
| 07:37.43 | vivekvc | liable: but why the "unstable" in the apt sources list ? |
| 07:37.44 | sep | http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html |
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| 07:38.11 | sep | _lester_, but why not just make a 50MB /boot partition as ext fs that's sane anyway |
| 07:38.24 | azeem | ok |
| 07:38.55 | liable | vivekvc: i dont know. thats what i am saying. but its only the cd source that ever says it. i guess its ingrained there somewhere and noone ever changed it, though unstable really makes no sense, as sarge of course was never unstable.. |
| 07:38.57 | _lester_ | sep: I am trying to buid a standard install for my office. less partiion - less fuss. :) |
| 07:39.13 | _lester_ | oh well. ext3 root then. :) |
| 07:39.24 | vivekvc | liable: yea |
| 07:39.33 | sep | _lester_, why not try xfs ? and update the docs if it's wrong :) |
| 07:39.55 | liable | vivekvc: really, ask the boot guys |
| 07:40.06 | cahoot | _lester_: if you really want a /boot make it ext2 - anything else is a waste |
| 07:40.12 | liable | vivekvc: and when you find out, let us know :) |
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| 07:40.25 | vivekvc | liable: Will surely do. |
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| 07:40.37 | vivekvc | :) |
| 07:40.40 | _lester_ | sep: heh I might... will come back and let you guys know. anyways it's time to go home... leave it next week. |
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| 07:41.24 | liable | beer'o'clock was 3/4hour ago :) |
| 07:42.19 | _lester_ | cahoot: i'd make an extra /boot if it's my box.. it's one more partition to image when I clone the disk. |
| 07:42.27 | _lester_ | liable: ummmm beer... |
| 07:43.07 | liable | is good .. |
| 07:43.36 | _lester_ | gtg. ttyl guys |
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| 07:46.48 | yxa | how do i use svn to see the exact changes made to a file of a certain revision |
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| 07:47.17 | Arafangion | yxa: svn diff |
| 07:48.17 | |^o_o^| | when i connect via pppoe my default route can't established as pppoe |
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| 07:51.37 | liable | i think i am gonna have to buy a new stinkpad, but cant decide on model |
| 07:51.53 | Luckys | why my SHIFT+HOME won't work to do a text selection, instead it'd print 7 |
| 07:52.45 | Arafangion | liable: A new stinkpad? |
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| 07:53.04 | liable | Arafangion: um, thinkpad :) |
| 07:56.03 | Vasistha | Luckys: are you in a console? |
| 07:56.18 | Luckys | Vasistha, even on xchat |
| 07:56.49 | Luckys | Vasistha, I using debian as guest OS on VMWare |
| 07:57.10 | Vasistha | Luckys: xchat huh? that sucks. Sounds like an unfortunate key binding. No such problem here in konversation ... it's probably xchat specific |
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| 07:57.50 | Luckys | apt-get install postgresql will it install the latest version if not what I need to follow |
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| 07:59.54 | Luckys | Vasistha, nope, even the text editor its the same |
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| 08:00.05 | Luckys | SHIFT+HOME/END would print 7 |
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| 08:01.01 | phil0u | Hello |
| 08:01.20 | liable | hola |
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| 08:01.28 | Vasistha | Luckys: I suppose it could be a key mapping issue ... I don't really know what to do, but someone in here knows about key mappings. I'm going to bed, though, good luck. Search packages.debian.org for postgresql |
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| 08:02.47 | phil0u | I have a server with 2 onboard cards to which i added another 3 : problem : if i compile all 3 drivers (tg3,e100 and 3c59x) statically in the kernel, i have one interface that is named: eth1_temp. Any idea ? |
| 08:03.09 | phil0u | i'm using vanilla 2.6.17, Debian Sid, x86 |
| 08:03.59 | torc | hmm... wonder why /var/lib/samba/winbindd_idmap.tdb permission is set to 644? shouldn't it be 600, like every other file in the /var/lib/samba ? |
| 08:04.08 | phil0u | and of course if i take one of the three drivers as a module, i don't have that issue. Could it be udev related ? |
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| 08:12.23 | lehel | hi |
| 08:12.50 | lehel | ..anyone using mambo? |
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| 08:13.54 | liable | phil0u: ya, i have a similar problem that i have been to lazy to work out yet. udev hangs at boot with it, so yeah, i think its udev.. |
| 08:14.32 | phil0u | liable: hmm ok thx, at last that's somewhere to start with :) |
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| 08:14.56 | liable | phil0u: tell me when you fix it :) |
| 08:15.46 | liable | though mine isnt statically compiled.. but anyway, its udev.. |
| 08:15.57 | phil0u | héhé ok. Well the workaround is, as i said, to put either one of the three driver as a module, but well, it's not really what i'd like it to be |
| 08:16.30 | phil0u | liable: ok, then it's maybe a different issue |
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| 08:18.10 | liable | phil0u: well, related, mine is a bit different as its the madwifi-ng that start an iface and then makes other interfaces from the first one... its kinda complicated, but i have a original-iface-temp, and udev hangs when the thing comes up |
| 08:18.16 | liable | make sense?? |
| 08:18.22 | liable | i doubt it :) |
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| 08:18.36 | phil0u | hmm ok i see. |
| 08:19.05 | phil0u | i'll try to ping md if i can catch him on it |
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| 08:22.02 | phil0u | a bit |
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| 08:25.23 | p3rry | anyone who knows in which repository I can find the lha archive utility? |
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| 08:26.51 | liable | p3rry: /msg dpkg search |
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| 08:27.22 | phil0u | p3rry: in non-free |
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| 08:30.18 | p3rry | hmm, ok, tnx, I'll take another look then, I have non-free listed in sources.list, running debian etch. |
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| 08:36.07 | tushar | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 08:37.25 | Werdna | hi guys |
| 08:37.25 | liable | phil0u: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/06/msg02055.html dunno if it applies to you, looks good for me though |
| 08:37.45 | tushar | Hi Werdna |
| 08:37.46 | phil0u | liable: i'll check thx |
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| 08:38.16 | Werdna | <question type="newbie">How do I set up certificate authentication for SSH?</question> |
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| 08:38.52 | tushar | Is there anyone who can help me out regarding Debian GNU/Linux Licensing ??? |
| 08:39.44 | cahoot | tushar: http://www.us.debian.org/intro/free ? |
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| 08:40.22 | cahoot | and http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract |
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| 08:40.48 | liable | heh, udev bugs are always an interesting read :) |
| 08:41.14 | eastwood | just added composite to xorg and its pretty cool |
| 08:42.03 | flogiston | I cant understand how nfs and exports are supposed to work. My exportline is: /data/www192.168.1.100(rw,sync) . When I try to mount it on my workstation I get permission denyed. |
| 08:42.19 | tushar | I had some specific doubts regarding GNU/Licensing as well as Debian licensing....Anyone who can help me out ? |
| 08:43.24 | Werdna | anyone? |
| 08:43.33 | tushar | "/topic" |
| 08:43.42 | harsha | tushar, Just ask your question. |
| 08:44.24 | cahoot | flogiston: the missing space is a typo? |
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| 08:44.56 | flogiston | Missing space after what? |
| 08:45.17 | cahoot | flogiston: /dir/to/export host |
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| 08:45.31 | flogiston | Thats a real directory. |
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| 08:46.52 | flogiston | Another strange thing is that I can't restart nfs-kernel-server. |
| 08:47.35 | tushar | I am part of a team that is trying to build a GNU/Linux distribution...... We have almost built one based on Debian....Some of my doubts are -1)Totem Movie Player(as an example of a package) comes under the GPL but |
| 08:47.35 | tushar | some of the libraries it uses come under the LGPL. I have read in Section |
| 08:47.35 | tushar | 3 |
| 08:47.35 | tushar | of the LGPL that you can convert these to GPL after making changes to all |
| 08:47.35 | tushar | notices of the license after which you can't convert back to GPL.Is this |
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| 08:49.04 | superlinux | hi all |
| 08:49.09 | flogiston | Hi. |
| 08:49.19 | liable | tushar: that doesnt really have anything to do with debian.. |
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| 08:50.35 | tushar | We downloaded from the Debian repository ... thats why the questions |
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| 08:52.50 | superlinux | I have a big upload speed. and it's taking soo looong to upload 1/2MB an email or ftp or https. I have shutdown all traffic shaping issues |
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| 08:53.57 | superlinux | I can download easily. I can upload small files easily too. so what should I do? |
| 08:54.25 | eastwood | qos |
| 08:54.54 | superlinux | what do you mean? do you mean quality of service? |
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| 08:55.39 | k31th | humm if i want to copy a bunch of dir's starting with site and www. wats the easy'st way to do that ? |
| 08:56.04 | SerajewelKS | k31th: cp site* www.* /some/destination |
| 08:56.21 | SerajewelKS | k31th: cp -r site* www.* /some/destination #rather |
| 08:56.28 | eastwood | superlinux, y |
| 08:56.41 | k31th | SerajewelKS: works ok with scp yeah? |
| 08:56.43 | eastwood | anyways your upload speed should be lower than download |
| 08:56.45 | superlinux | eastwood, I shut down that QoS |
| 08:56.47 | SerajewelKS | k31th: sure |
| 08:57.09 | eastwood | superlinux, i use it all the time |
| 08:57.14 | eastwood | in my linux router |
| 08:58.04 | superlinux | eastwood, I meant that I have QoS was runing and I am the only one on the line and I can send big files.... |
| 08:58.35 | superlinux | I stopped everyhthing and worked without any managemanet and I still have that problem |
| 08:59.06 | superlinux | eastwood, I meant that I have QoS was runing and I am the only one on the line and I can't send big files.... (i CANT send) |
| 08:59.24 | superlinux | they timeout with me |
| 08:59.25 | eastwood | that weird |
| 08:59.53 | eastwood | what protocol are you using? |
| 08:59.57 | superlinux | I even made a basic firewall NAT only |
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| 09:00.10 | kj_8 | hi |
| 09:00.43 | superlinux | eastwood, protocol for what? |
| 09:01.07 | eastwood | for what? you talking here using the IRC protocol |
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| 09:01.15 | eastwood | however you can use other protocols like ftp |
| 09:01.18 | eastwood | http |
| 09:01.21 | eastwood | .. |
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| 09:02.38 | superlinux | look I am having timeouts on sending big files on ftp https and smtp |
| 09:02.48 | solid_liq | ツ |
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| 09:03.40 | kj_8 | someone know, why smbclient only list me IPC$ and ADMIN$ shares, but in windows I can see the share folders that I put in smb.conf? I'm using virtual samba servers. thanks |
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| 09:04.49 | superlinux | kj_8, join #samba |
| 09:04.51 | blondie | kj_8: did you authenticate correctly? |
| 09:05.13 | superlinux | he could have not authenticate correctly |
| 09:05.47 | kj_8 | i authentificated correctly |
| 09:06.09 | kj_8 | so i don't understand it :\ |
| 09:06.27 | kj_8 | I'll ask in #samba, thanks :) |
| 09:06.32 | superlinux | so anyone has a clue? |
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| 09:26.32 | blingbling | hello, I just installed knoppix 4 from cdrom to my harddisk, everyone saying I have a debian system now. Why doesnt "apt-get install xfce" work? gives errors about unmet dependencies |
| 09:27.40 | stoned | !debian based |
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| 09:28.24 | beardy | blingbling: You don't. |
| 09:28.31 | beardy | !d-i blingbling |
| 09:28.32 | dpkg | blingbling, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 09:29.13 | beardy | !tell blingbling -about knoppix |
| 09:30.10 | beardy | !knoppix =~ s/doesn't run/isn't/ |
| 09:30.11 | dpkg | beardy: OK |
| 09:30.45 | beardy | blingbling: /msg dpkg ig |
| 09:30.55 | Firefishe | Why do debian-based baseball teams always seem to lose against true debian baseball teams? |
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| 09:31.26 | Firefishe | Because the debian-based teams always seem to ubuntu too much. *duck* |
| 09:31.35 | blingbling | whats the problem about knoppix? |
| 09:32.11 | Shadur | For some reason it's not correctly parsing netmasks. |
| 09:32.17 | beardy | blingbling: It is not Debian. If that is a problem, it's up to you, but Debian it isn't. Install Debian if you want to run Debian. Use knppix as a livecd when you have to. |
| 09:32.36 | blingbling | okay |
| 09:32.41 | threw | hello ! |
| 09:32.46 | Shadur | I've got about fifty entries of a.b.c.d/30 in there, and the compiled version lists them all as 0xaabbccdd 0xffffffff |
| 09:32.57 | beardy | blingbling: Ask #knoppix if you have problems with it. And read what dpkg tells you. |
| 09:33.29 | sid | !greet threw |
| 09:33.29 | dpkg | Gr33tz, threw |
| 09:33.44 | blingbling | okay, thanks for the help and sorry bothering |
| 09:33.46 | stoned | wtf is with the bot |
| 09:33.51 | stoned | !debian based |
| 09:33.57 | threw | is anyone know how to put the output of the init script in /etc/rcS.d/ at boot time in a file please ? |
| 09:33.58 | sid | !based on debian |
| 09:34.03 | stoned | !listkeys based |
| 09:34.05 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'based' by key (15 of 16): #debian based on ;; #debian based on debian ;; #debian debian based ;; #debian debian-based ;; #debian-bots based on debian ;; _default based on debian ;; _default debian based ;; _default debian-based ;; answer debian based ;; based on ;; based on windows ;; basedebs ;; basedebs.tgz ;; debian based ;; debian-based. |
| 09:34.12 | stoned | I dunno, damn bot |
| 09:34.14 | beardy | !botmsg |
| 09:34.14 | dpkg | talk to me in /msg unless there is a reason to do it in the channel |
| 09:34.16 | stoned | probably stoned |
| 09:34.27 | saapas | I'm using virtual mail accounts using mysql and postfix. is there a way to tell postfix to use a non-default tcp/ip port to communicate with mysql? |
| 09:35.25 | beardy | blingbling: No problem, you're welcome. "/msg dpkg d-i" if you want to install Debian. |
| 09:35.55 | blingbling | okay, thanks for the help |
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| 09:36.36 | threw | anyone has an idea please or could tell me if its possible or not ? |
| 09:37.02 | eastwood | possible what? |
| 09:37.50 | threw | to put the output of script who are in /etc/rcS.d/ and launched by init at boot tume in a file :) |
| 09:37.58 | Shadur | threw: yeah, set -e in the script and redirect stdout to a file. |
| 09:37.58 | threw | *at boot time |
| 09:38.40 | threw | Shadur: euh, what fo you mean by "set -e in the script" please ? |
| 09:39.00 | Shadur | threw: -e or -x. I keep forgetting. |
| 09:39.03 | beardy | Hmm, yeah? |
| 09:39.31 | Shadur | For bourne shell scripts, one of those echoes back all commands to stdout as well. |
| 09:39.37 | threw | erf ok, but you mean that i should launch script with -e ? but how can i do ?! |
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| 09:40.04 | Super_Ca1_Frog | hi - is there a software way to turn off hyperthreading in debian, or would i have to do it with the bios? |
| 09:40.22 | beardy | Super_Ca1_Frog: Don't run a SMP kernel. |
| 09:40.34 | spoown | hello all |
| 09:40.35 | Shadur | Super_Ca1_Frog: Run without SMP enabled... But why would you do that? |
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| 09:40.52 | Shadur | Better yet, buy a CPU that doesn't hyperthread. |
| 09:41.11 | beardy | And give me the hyperthreading one. |
| 09:41.51 | spoown | I have a little question about scheduling in Linux, i write a program in C, and it needs to send periodically UDP packet accross a network, and sending is very critical for the program, is it possible that another program take the CPU time more thant 100 ms ? so, my program hasn't cpy time to send a packet within this 100 ms ? is it possible ? any idea please ? |
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| 09:42.04 | Super_Ca1_Frog | Shadur: beardy: cant do that, its dual cpu machine |
| 09:42.33 | Shadur | Super_Ca1_Frog: Then buy non-hyperthreading CPUS... But again, why do you want to turn this off? |
| 09:42.37 | epsilon | how was it, hyperthreading/DualCode don't need SMP kernel? |
| 09:42.39 | fireba11_2 | Super_Ca1_Frog: why are you tring to get rid of TH ? |
| 09:42.42 | fireba11_2 | HT even |
| 09:42.51 | threw | Shadur: sorry i didnt understood. you mean that i should launch the script with "-e" or "-x" arg, but how can i do ? these script are launched by init no ?! |
| 09:43.05 | stoned | goddamn bug |
| 09:43.06 | Super_Ca1_Frog | because processes can only take up 25% of the available cpu power, rather than 50% |
| 09:43.21 | Shadur | threw: type man bash |
| 09:43.24 | Super_Ca1_Frog | well, non parrallell processes anyway |
| 09:43.38 | beardy | Super_Ca1_Frog: I don't mind if you give me both then ;) |
| 09:43.39 | fireba11_2 | Super_Ca1_Frog: wtf ? where did you get that diea ?? |
| 09:43.45 | fireba11_2 | idea |
| 09:44.14 | Super_Ca1_Frog | beardy: no, i want both cpu's :) just not both fake cores |
| 09:44.20 | Shadur | Super_Ca1_Frog: ... You don't seem to understand the concept very well. |
| 09:44.28 | fireba11_2 | Super_Ca1_Frog you don't understand how HT works |
| 09:44.30 | beardy | threw: Which output do you want to see, and why? |
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| 09:46.07 | beardy | threw: Is it just one script's output you want to see, I mean? |
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| 09:46.57 | liable | excellent :) |
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| 09:48.30 | threw | beardy: yeah, its not just 1 script but all the script launched by init at boot time in rcS.d. Well i would to see this output because i have seen some error message at boot, but it goes to fast i cant read... and i really dont understand how bash can do that.... |
| 09:48.31 | fireba11 | ? |
| 09:48.50 | fireba11 | threw take a look at the log then ^^ |
| 09:49.13 | threw | yeah, sure, but where is it located ??! :) |
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| 09:49.37 | beardy | threw: Ah, 'dmesg | less' then. Or, 'less /var/log/dmesg' |
| 09:49.39 | liable | threw: to stop and read kernel boot messages, ^s, to start ^q |
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| 09:50.18 | liable | phil0u: removing the z25 entry fixed it for me :) |
| 09:51.03 | phil0u | liable: z25 ? |
| 09:51.14 | threw | beardy: dpkg doesnt show me errors.... :( |
| 09:51.26 | beardy | threw: read |
| 09:51.37 | threw | liable: ok i try ! :) |
| 09:51.46 | threw | beardy: already try this :p |
| 09:51.50 | liable | phil0u: /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 09:52.01 | beardy | threw: -> dmesg <- |
| 09:52.04 | phil0u | ha yes ok |
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| 09:52.44 | liable | phil0u: marco mentions it in that bug |
| 09:53.10 | phil0u | liable: ha ! nice, where please ? |
| 09:53.26 | liable | phil0u: the bug? |
| 09:53.34 | phil0u | liable: i'll try right away |
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| 09:53.59 | phil0u | liable: where did you see marco mention that tip ? |
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| 09:54.05 | wamty | how tu put from root this alias to all users |
| 09:54.10 | wamty | alias ls='ls --color=tty |
| 09:54.11 | wamty | ? |
| 09:54.12 | liable | phil0u: sec, i need to find it again :) |
| 09:54.20 | phil0u | liable: thx |
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| 09:55.52 | liable | phil0u: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357025%3E. .. just past half way down |
| 09:55.55 | eleftherios | is anyone running postgresql 8.1 on Etch here? I am editing the pg_hba.conf file and the changes don't take affect no matter how many times I reload the server? Do you know what the crack is? |
| 09:56.03 | phil0u | liable: thx much |
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| 09:56.07 | liable | np |
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| 09:56.41 | beardy | wamty: Put it in /etc/profile, but are you sure all users want that? |
| 09:57.08 | beardy | wamty: Better to let them put it in their ~/.bash_profile themselves. |
| 09:57.10 | phil0u | liable: server is rebooting , result in few seconds :) |
| 09:59.19 | phil0u | liable: it worked !!! excellent !! Thx much for the tip |
| 09:59.37 | liable | phil0u: sweet :) |
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| 10:01.30 | Johnny_5 | i just downloaded a theme for enlightenment from the net...how do i install it in my system so i can use it? |
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| 10:02.40 | beardy | Johnny_5: Enlightenment probably have a directory in your homedirectory for that, look around. And also look in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> |
| 10:03.03 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 10:05.16 | liran_ | has anyone got experience with running ut (unreal tournament 99) under linux with smooh 3d acceleration? |
| 10:05.34 | Shadur | The original one? Nope, never played it. |
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| 10:05.44 | Shadur | 2003 and 2004 were pretty good, though |
| 10:05.49 | liran_ | :) |
| 10:05.58 | liran_ | Shadur: did you run them under linux? |
| 10:06.00 | msn | hmmm how can I run chromium in proper 3D acclersation over ati chipset |
| 10:06.04 | Shadur | yes. |
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| 10:06.33 | Shadur | msn: ati's driver support is pretty crap. It exists, but I hear it's a major hassle to get working. |
| 10:06.46 | liran_ | Shadur: ok well here's the thing, ive installed 99 under linux and it's runing just fine. the problem is that it's kind of jittering like maybe 3d isn't all working fine or something |
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| 10:07.06 | DaBlade | Hello |
| 10:07.20 | Shadur | liran_: Do you have 3d acceleration at all? run glxinfo and check whether it's got direct rendering. |
| 10:07.25 | DaBlade | I replaced my old PS/2 mouse with a new USB mouse, but now X refuses to start |
| 10:07.37 | DaBlade | What do I change in Xorg.conf to make it use the USB mouse? |
| 10:07.46 | nuke | i just installed alsa* packages and xmms but i stillg et this message when starting xmms "alsa_get_mixer(): Failed to load mixer: Invalid argument", help |
| 10:07.46 | liran_ | Shadur: on UnrealTournament.ini -> [Engine.Engine] i got SDLGLDrv.SDLGLRenderDevice |
| 10:07.59 | Eclipser | humm |
| 10:08.00 | Shadur | liran_: I'm not asking about your .ini file. |
| 10:08.02 | liran_ | Shadur: yeah i got ati drivers with fglrx and glxinfo and everything is working fine |
| 10:08.14 | Eclipser | is there an installation CD for etch? |
| 10:08.20 | Shadur | liran_: You're getting "Direct Rendering: yes" ? |
| 10:08.24 | liable | yerp |
| 10:08.34 | Shadur | Eclipser: officially, no. |
| 10:08.48 | liable | Eclipser: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 10:08.56 | Shadur | Check the debian installer website, they generally link to unofficial images as well. |
| 10:09.06 | liran_ | Shadur: it's no for direct rendering |
| 10:09.07 | Eclipser | thanks :p |
| 10:09.12 | liran_ | Shadur: maybe thats cause im under xgl now |
| 10:09.18 | Shadur | liran_: then you don't have glx working. |
| 10:09.18 | yang | what is the opposite of mkisofs, to extrack iso into a file? |
| 10:09.21 | DaBlade | Hello? :) |
| 10:09.28 | liable | liran_: you have xgl working in debian? |
| 10:09.29 | liran_ | Shadur: hold up ill reset to normal x. |
| 10:09.29 | Shadur | yang: ... Wait, what? |
| 10:09.38 | epsilon | yang: mount it |
| 10:09.53 | Shadur | yang: Do you even realize what you're asking? |
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| 10:10.11 | yang | Shadur: to extract files out of .iso |
| 10:10.27 | nuke | yang: mount the iso and copy the contents out |
| 10:10.27 | liable | yang: see what epsilon said |
| 10:11.08 | Shadur | yang: ... .iso images are not archives, regardless of whatever winRAR is trying to suggest to the gullible and the ignorant. |
| 10:11.15 | Shadur | Just mount the damn image and copy at will. |
| 10:11.32 | Shadur | Gods, times like this I want to punch whoever added ".iso support" to winRAR. |
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| 10:12.04 | liran_ | Shadur: right. direct rendering is "yes" |
| 10:12.05 | msn | sometimes it helps Shadur |
| 10:12.13 | msn | the iso support |
| 10:12.31 | msn | atleast you have some way of opening a iso in doze |
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| 10:12.49 | msn | or else you burn the damn CD first |
| 10:12.58 | msn | though it shouldn't be a hassle |
| 10:13.02 | yang | mount iamge.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?) |
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| 10:13.14 | Eclipser | then try -o loop! |
| 10:13.15 | msn | yes yang |
| 10:13.16 | nuke | mount -o loop <iso> <folder> |
| 10:13.18 | Shadur | yang: Yes, use the loopback device to mount files. |
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| 10:13.27 | liran_ | yeah you need -o loop |
| 10:13.30 | Eclipser | nuke, there's no folders, you MS freak! |
| 10:13.34 | eleftherios | is this line correct: "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" |
| 10:13.37 | liran_ | the error message tells exactly that :P |
| 10:13.45 | liable | i think i have convinced myself to get a new t43p.. |
| 10:14.07 | AciD | how can you kill a "unkillable" process like gam_server ? |
| 10:14.10 | AciD | I got the same problem than here : http://www.webservertalk.com/message1469951.html |
| 10:14.16 | liable | eleftherios: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 10:14.30 | knt | Are there any fwlogwatch experiences around? I've configured include_file to my iptables log file but still couldn't see any useable views on the web server interface. any ideas? |
| 10:14.32 | nuke | can i help it if even kde makes he directories look like folders :p |
| 10:15.10 | Shadur | eleftherios: Have you run apt-get update? Did you get an error? |
| 10:15.24 | eleftherios | Shadur, no I did not get an error |
| 10:15.29 | nima | why does gnomebaker skip tesing |
| 10:15.37 | eleftherios | liable, thank you |
| 10:15.37 | nima | dependancy problems? |
| 10:15.47 | liable | !why is gnomebaker not in testing |
| 10:15.47 | dpkg | gnomebaker is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnomebaker |
| 10:15.50 | Shadur | eleftherios: then it was evidently correct |
| 10:15.54 | liable | nima: ^^ |
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| 10:16.12 | nima | thanks |
| 10:16.22 | nuke | i just installed alsa* packages and xmms but i stillg et this message when starting xmms "alsa_get_mixer(): Failed to load mixer: Invalid argument", help! |
| 10:16.34 | Eclipser | nuke, you can make them look different |
| 10:16.37 | eleftherios | Shadur, :-) |
| 10:17.10 | liran_ | Shadur: do you use glide or sdlgl for 3d? |
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| 10:18.24 | nuke | Eclipser :the great kde delevopers wanted them to look like foldersto lemmings like meso thats what i call them(not to mention 10 years of ms brainwashing) |
| 10:20.17 | Shadur | liran_: Neither. I use nvidia and dri |
| 10:20.43 | liran_ | Shadur: can you show me your unrealtournament.ini settings? |
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| 10:21.12 | Shadur | liran_: No, I can't, because I DON'T HAVE UNREAL TOURNAMENT. |
| 10:21.26 | nuke | shg>/dev/snd |
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| 10:21.45 | liran_ | Shadur: lol ok |
| 10:21.50 | Shadur | I do have UT2004 and UT2003. |
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| 10:21.59 | Shadur | [Engine.Engine] |
| 10:22.04 | Shadur | RenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice |
| 10:23.01 | Shadur | You'll want glxinfo to be saying something like this: |
| 10:23.02 | Shadur | shikigami: ~/ >glxinfo |
| 10:23.10 | Shadur | direct rendering: Yes |
| 10:23.10 | Shadur | server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 10:23.10 | Shadur | server glx version string: 1.4 |
| 10:23.41 | Shadur | Of course, in your case it'll be ATI Corporation, etc, etc. |
| 10:25.37 | liran_ | right |
| 10:25.49 | liran_ | im just wondering, i need the opengl package installed, don't i? |
| 10:26.11 | Shadur | ... what opengl package? |
| 10:26.26 | liran_ | im asking :P |
| 10:26.27 | Shadur | What you need to have installed are the ati kernel and userspace drivers for opengl. |
| 10:26.36 | liran_ | ahh ok |
| 10:27.02 | Shadur | In the case of nvidia, that's nvidia-kernel-source (which you use to compile a nvidia-kernel-<uname> package with) and nvidia-glx |
| 10:27.16 | Shadur | Dunno if anyone got around to setting up something similar for ATI yet. |
| 10:27.41 | Eclipser | ati drivers officially suck |
| 10:28.00 | Shadur | liran_: According to apt-cache search, there are. |
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| 10:39.09 | nuke | what do i need to do other than install alsa packages for sound? |
| 10:39.35 | cahoot | nuke: run alsaconf |
| 10:40.26 | Shadur | Argh, how do you backreference in a vim regex again? s/ip_src == (.*);/ip_src NT_$1 == $1/ isn't working. |
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| 10:41.12 | nuke | i did...it found "hda-intel Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition" but gives this error on exiting "usr/sbin/alsactl: get_control:149: Cannot read control info '2,0,0,Front Playback Volume,0': Invalid argument" |
| 10:41.52 | Eclipser | what's a sane way of tar backuping everything? |
| 10:42.08 | Eclipser | except /dev, /proc, /whatevernotsanetobackup |
| 10:42.19 | cahoot | nuke: tried running aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav? |
| 10:44.41 | nuke | cahoot :it didnt give an error but i didnt hear anytihg also |
| 10:44.56 | cahoot | nuke: try alsamixer |
| 10:45.54 | nuke | "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument" |
| 10:46.30 | cahoot | nuke: what does 'cat /proc/asound/version' return? |
| 10:47.08 | nuke | 1.0.10rc3 |
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| 10:48.06 | samuew | any use rmxmms plugin? |
| 10:48.54 | nuke | im not trying to play any rm files right now |
| 10:49.06 | nuke | and starting up xmms also gives the same invalid argument error |
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| 10:50.46 | laurens_ | hi. |
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| 10:50.56 | cahoot | nuke: no use testing with xmms if even alsamixer complains. It might be you need a newer alsa for that card |
| 10:51.50 | samuew | how to use rmxmms with xmms? |
| 10:52.04 | nuke | anything newer than 1.0.10rc3? i got this from etch...will i get a newer version with unstable? |
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| 10:54.13 | cahoot | nuke: yes - don't know if there's any quirks installing unstable's latest kernel on etch though |
| 10:55.28 | cahoot | nuke: anyway the snd-hda-intel module has had some important fixes between 1.0.10 and 1.0.11 |
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| 10:58.45 | nuke | is there an equivalent of system-config-soundcard(fc5) in debian? |
| 10:59.14 | abrocadabro | I installed ldap with apt-get install slapd ldap-utils successfully, but I was unable to login as admin, it threw me the error that credential invalid, even I typed in the password exactly as it was during setup, any ideas? BTW I can login anonymously |
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| 11:01.41 | epsilon | nuke: alsa*? |
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| 11:03.07 | nuke | the bunch of alsa packages startingwith alsa...alsa-base alsa-utils etc etc |
| 11:06.08 | nuke | uhh..i use tar jxf <file> to unzip a .tar.bz2 right? |
| 11:06.31 | epsilon | to unbz2, yes :) |
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| 11:07.13 | nuke | hmm..funny..even that doesnt work |
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| 11:07.36 | nuke | nevermind..idnt have bzip installed :p |
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| 11:11.25 | Eclipser | how would you partition a 5GB internal HD + 80GB USB HD? :) |
| 11:11.41 | ignucius | hi. where in debian schould i put environment variables like KDEWM=="..." |
| 11:11.42 | ignucius | ? |
| 11:11.47 | Eclipser | note: I can't use the external always |
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| 11:12.19 | hrw|work | hi |
| 11:12.42 | Goshawk | hi, how does apt-get see the arch of a pc? (i'm trying a cross compilation with pbuilder) |
| 11:12.48 | hrw|work | someone here use mc and has problem like in #329186? |
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| 11:14.51 | nuke | where is the 'mute channels' in kmix? i have to unute he side channels |
| 11:15.39 | cahoot | nuke: use alsamixer |
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| 11:17.39 | nuke | i cant use alsamixer, its gives me "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument" |
| 11:17.48 | sid | Anyone know a good voice recorder that records to ogg? |
| 11:18.04 | nuke | even kmix gives me "alsa_get_mixer(): Failed to load mixer: Invalid argument" but atleast the program starts |
| 11:18.12 | cahoot | sid: use arecord and pipe to oggenc |
| 11:18.45 | sid | cahoot: I don't own a laptop. |
| 11:19.04 | cahoot | nuke: how do you expect kmix to do any good with that error msg? |
| 11:19.22 | cahoot | sid: huh? |
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| 11:20.24 | sid | cahoot: o, I'm sorry. I wasn't clear with my question. I want a small hardware voice recorder. That records and encodes to ogg. |
| 11:20.36 | cahoot | sid: I see - no idea |
| 11:20.41 | pipeline | sid: Not going to happen. |
| 11:20.47 | sid | didn't think so |
| 11:20.48 | sid | heh |
| 11:20.55 | pipeline | sid: For telephone-quality recordings, there are *much better* codecs available. |
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| 11:21.08 | sid | pipeline: not really |
| 11:21.11 | pipeline | sid: So, surprise surprise, manufacturers don't use a poorly suited codec developed by hippies. |
| 11:21.17 | sid | ogg is the best codec I've seen for low bitrate |
| 11:21.27 | pipeline | sid: That's because you haven't seen very many. |
| 11:21.33 | cahoot | speex? |
| 11:21.38 | incorrect | hello while installing i am getting an error modprobe -v aic79xx can't load etc |
| 11:21.44 | sid | pipeline: I have benchmarks |
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| 11:21.52 | pipeline | sid: Vorbis is pretty explicitly designed for 32 kbps and above. i.e. much higher bitrates and qualities than your typical voice recorder is going to use. |
| 11:21.59 | pipeline | sid: "telephone quality" == 8kbps |
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| 11:33.04 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. lsmod doesn't work in my chroot environment, what could be missing? |
| 11:33.12 | ricky_clarkson | I have /proc, /sys, /lib/modules. |
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| 11:36.03 | tewmas | I've replaced 2x512 MB RAM with 2x2GB and it detects everything fine in bios, but once logged in it seems to detect only the old configuration |
| 11:36.06 | tewmas | am I missing something? |
| 11:36.21 | pipeline | tewmas: You need a kernel with large memory support. |
| 11:36.21 | Chandu | Any one knows the irc of gnome-system-tools-list |
| 11:36.27 | pipeline | Chandu: Gimpnet #gnome |
| 11:36.35 | Chandu | thank u |
| 11:36.58 | pipeline | tewmas: There's a performance hit when the linux kernel addresses more than 1G of RAM or some arbitrary limit. At any rate, to use 4G, you need a kernel with large memory configured. |
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| 11:37.15 | meppl | guten morgen |
| 11:37.40 | tewmas | pipeline I'm pretty sure I have a kernel with large memory configure, I'll check up on that though |
| 11:37.42 | pipeline | tewmas: I think the option is called "highmem" |
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| 11:41.20 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: find r300_dri.so |
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| 11:47.07 | knt | I'm planning to replace my old Philips PVC... webcam with a new recent one. (Those PVC... series are running with contrib kernel modules.) What do you guys suggest? (Image quality is quite important for the related project and it'll be better if the device is supported by vanilla kernel.) |
| 11:48.35 | k31th | anyone recomend any wiki software / |
| 11:48.44 | knt | k31th: moinmoin |
| 11:49.02 | k31th | does that use mysql ? |
| 11:49.07 | daxxar | k31th, depends on what for. DokuWiki is great for it's purpose. :-) |
| 11:49.11 | knt | k31th: no, plain text files. |
| 11:49.17 | daxxar | (DokuWiki is plaintext based) |
| 11:49.30 | daxxar | I can vouch for MoinMoin too, I use it personally. |
| 11:49.45 | k31th | i just want some thing basic |
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| 11:52.01 | k31th | knt: wats the pprefered way to install moinmoin ? |
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| 11:53.41 | knt | k31th: see the docs. |
| 11:53.47 | Eclipser | what's the file where domain name is saved again? |
| 11:54.21 | k31th | knt: using apt ? |
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| 12:00.31 | blondie | Eclipser: /etc/hosts |
| 12:00.44 | Eclipser | thanks |
| 12:00.46 | blondie | umm |
| 12:01.02 | blondie | Eclipser: and /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 12:01.41 | blondie | in hosts I have: "129.12.9.94 corner.kent.ac.uk corner" and in resolv.conf "domain kent.ac.uk" |
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| 12:02.27 | k31th | so you guys use apt for moinmoin or not ? |
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| 12:03.57 | higen_ | what directory under linux takes up most space.. /usr ? |
| 12:04.21 | weissi_ | higen_, depends on your usage, ususally /var, /home and /usr |
| 12:04.40 | higen_ | which applications uses /var? |
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| 12:04.45 | weissi_ | higen_, /var is really big for e.g. webservers, db-servers, file-servers, mail-servers, ... |
| 12:04.46 | higen_ | except logs? |
| 12:04.51 | weissi_ | higen_, + /var/log |
| 12:04.54 | heres | hey |
| 12:05.08 | higen_ | soo... using /var for fileserving is normal? |
| 12:05.21 | weissi_ | higen_, /home is big if you have many users and/or users which need a lot of space |
| 12:05.36 | higen_ | yea.. that one is rather logical |
| 12:06.17 | higen_ | hmm.. but then i should also mount the fileserver disks under var... not a bad idea |
| 12:06.19 | weissi_ | higen_, yeah /var is good, but many use e.g. /data |
| 12:06.27 | heres | i have come to mess my package system totally op with installing the testing sources so is there a way to "reset" the whole system or reinstall it when the only access is ssh?? |
| 12:06.53 | k31th | How can i list what files are in a package ? |
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| 12:07.05 | k31th | so i can see wgere it has install certain files ? |
| 12:07.15 | higen_ | is there any limitation of mounting / partition that are larger then 2gb? |
| 12:08.22 | higen_ | sticking to the original filesystem setup will make it less messy |
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| 12:17.19 | bnovc | could anyone help me on how i get backspace working in screen when i'm using OSX/iTerm - it works from other places and i tried doing 'stty erase' which was all i could find information on through google |
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| 12:17.57 | petemc | bnovc: poke about iterms preferences, theres an option in there |
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| 12:18.46 | bnovc | petemc, are you sure? theres only like 10 options and i don't see it |
| 12:18.54 | Chandu | can I get dcc irc |
| 12:19.05 | bnovc | backspace normally works fine in iTerm just not w/in screen |
| 12:19.09 | Alexio | is there anyway to install debian without having to format all of the other partitions on the hard drive? |
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| 12:19.31 | blondie | Alexio: yes |
| 12:19.33 | petemc | bnovc: in profiles |
| 12:19.38 | Alexio | how? |
| 12:19.39 | blondie | Alexio: the installer will ask you wish partitions to use |
| 12:19.43 | blondie | *which |
| 12:19.44 | Alexio | yup |
| 12:19.45 | Chandu | Alexio : Select manually partition |
| 12:20.12 | Alexio | when I went through it I thought it wanted to format all of the partitions that were there |
| 12:20.15 | petemc | bnovc: also, try TERM=screen screen |
| 12:20.32 | liable | Alexio: do you have any free space? |
| 12:20.33 | bnovc | petemc, erm export TERM=screen ? |
| 12:20.43 | Alexio | yes |
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| 12:21.06 | liable | Alexio: it usually puts debian on the free space if you have any. |
| 12:21.11 | Alexio | ah ok |
| 12:21.20 | petemc | bnovc: prepending it to the comman works fine |
| 12:21.23 | petemc | +d |
| 12:21.25 | Alexio | if I format the partition I want to install to before it should be ok then |
| 12:21.40 | liable | Alexio: otherwise, it needs to make some, and therefore asks to delete something |
| 12:21.54 | Alexio | fair enough, thank you |
| 12:21.56 | bnovc | petemc, oh...well i can't find this option you speak of in iTerm |
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| 12:22.40 | petemc | bnovc: i told you it in profiles, but if you want to give up after 2 minutes or else correct me when im not wrong, thats fine too |
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| 12:23.01 | bnovc | petemc, i wasn't giving up or correcting you i just don't see it anywher |
| 12:23.10 | bnovc | do i have to go find a system file and edit it? |
| 12:23.13 | liable | Alexio: the partitioner can be confusing at times, just keep playing with it, just dont let it write anything to disk |
| 12:23.25 | liable | Alexio: untill you like what you see.. |
| 12:23.34 | Alexio | ok, that's what I'll do |
| 12:24.05 | Alexio | I think the slackware installer is better lol |
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| 12:24.25 | liable | shrug |
| 12:24.52 | Evaso2 | anybody know if inetd and xinetd are actually really actively used in production systems? |
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| 12:25.17 | liable | Evaso2: yes, if you use services that run from it |
| 12:26.05 | Evaso2 | liable: what are advantages instead of iptables? |
| 12:26.22 | Evaso2 | liable: only run on demand? |
| 12:26.31 | liable | Evaso2: what? inetd and iptables are totally different beasts |
| 12:27.00 | Evaso2 | liable: i mean the availability of use tcp wrapper in inetd |
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| 12:27.18 | Eclipser | can I somehow make apt not to cache the packages? |
| 12:27.29 | liable | Evaso2: i have no idea |
| 12:27.50 | liable | Eclipser: dont think so, just clean afterwards |
| 12:27.55 | Eclipser | damn |
| 12:28.16 | Eclipser | I always forget clean until my HD gets full |
| 12:28.16 | Eclipser | which is usually in about couple of day |
| 12:28.16 | Eclipser | s |
| 12:28.31 | liable | heh, thats when you are glad you have the reserved blocks for root :) |
| 12:28.36 | brownie17 | where is dpkg!? |
| 12:28.40 | Eclipser | liable, yeh :) |
| 12:29.27 | liable | hes dead? |
| 12:29.29 | liable | !hi |
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| 12:29.51 | liable | dondelelcaro: dpkg seems to be awol |
| 12:30.28 | higen_ | i have a sata disk that gives me harddisk error in grub, i cant boot from my regular IDE Ata disk.. when i disconnect the disk.. grub works as normal.. any workaround for this problem? |
| 12:30.33 | liable | brownie17: you can use apt or ravenbird |
| 12:31.12 | brownie17 | liable, same infomation inside them? |
| 12:31.16 | liable | yep |
| 12:31.40 | liable | well, they usually have the same db |
| 12:31.44 | liable | @hi |
| 12:31.45 | ravenbird | Many greetings, liable, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 12:31.45 | aptitude | hello, liable |
| 12:31.53 | liable | hrm, new bot |
| 12:31.59 | simonrvn | in aptitude, i always go f10 then c |
| 12:32.02 | Eclipser | o.O |
| 12:32.04 | liable | aptitude: who owns you |
| 12:32.04 | aptitude | stew does |
| 12:32.11 | simonrvn | bugger bot has the same trigger ... |
| 12:32.35 | azeem | hrm? |
| 12:32.41 | azeem | ~hi |
| 12:32.51 | apt | hello, azeem |
| 12:32.51 | brownie17 | liable, why am i not seeing a package in the repos called "java-package"? |
| 12:32.59 | azeem | @hi |
| 12:33.00 | aptitude | hello, azeem |
| 12:33.00 | ravenbird | Many greetings, azeem, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 12:33.03 | azeem | ah |
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| 12:33.08 | azeem | ravenbird: who owns you? |
| 12:33.09 | ravenbird | SimonRaven |
| 12:33.15 | azeem | apt: who owns you? |
| 12:33.22 | apt | TimRiker does |
| 12:33.38 | liable | brownie17: you have contrib in sources? |
| 12:34.37 | brownie17 | liable, no idea. do i just add the word contrib to the end of each line to get that? |
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| 12:34.59 | liable | ~tell brownie17 about contrib |
| 12:35.13 | brownie17 | liable, i forgot where the Sources.list file is kept. where is it again? |
| 12:35.13 | Tassium | brownie17: /etc/apt/ |
| 12:35.28 | liable | meh, that was a useless factoid.. |
| 12:35.46 | liable | brownie17: /etc/apt/sources.list add contrib non-free to the end of each line |
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| 12:36.43 | Tassium | Never realized just how much I (we?) rely on dpkg until he's not around |
| 12:37.06 | brownie17 | Tassium, why isn't he around? |
| 12:37.07 | msn | lol |
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| 12:39.44 | Tassium | brownie17: I haven't a clue, sorry. |
| 12:40.43 | Eclipser | is there hardware acceleration for ATI Rage mobility? :) |
| 12:40.57 | Eclipser | it's so old that I'd bet there is but... |
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| 12:42.25 | brownie17 | can anyone tell me why when i run "fakeroot make-jpkg "jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586(3).bin"" as per the ravenbird instructions for installing java as a deb i get the following error "No matching plugin was found." |
| 12:42.26 | freeone3000 | Mesa might be able to do it. No clue though, actually. |
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| 12:42.56 | freeone3000 | brownie17: Er, it might be worth it just to get the sid deb. |
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| 12:43.25 | freeone3000 | brownie17: The JRE itself has never borked up my sys in the slightest. |
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| 12:43.40 | brownie17 | freeone3000, i don't know much about compatibility between the two versions, |
| 12:43.48 | liable | brownie17: you had those quotes in there? |
| 12:43.49 | brownie17 | does anyone else agree with freeone3000's idea? |
| 12:44.03 | brownie17 | liable, which ones? there were two sets |
| 12:44.30 | freeone3000 | I don't think the JRE depends on anything. |
| 12:45.01 | freeone3000 | And you'll not have to update for a while. |
| 12:45.06 | liable | brownie17: well, dont use any.. and do fakeroot make-jpkg j<tab><tab> in the dir where the bin is.. |
| 12:45.07 | brownie17 | liable, good pick, i renamed it so i didn't need the quotes and now it's working |
| 12:45.25 | liable | good |
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| 12:47.01 | brownie17 | liable, so what difference will it make between converting it to a deb package and just installed it from the bin i downloaded? |
| 12:47.28 | freeone3000 | Er. The deb you can cleanly uninstall once there's a sun java package availble in apt. |
| 12:47.31 | liable | brownie17: yeah, it makes a .deb you can install |
| 12:47.32 | freeone3000 | Other than that, not really that much. |
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| 12:48.06 | freeone3000 | Oh wait, yes a lot. It also satisfies the JRE requirement, which is required for OOo and stuff. |
| 12:48.16 | kismet | How does openoffice select the widget to use? Can I force it to use KDE widget even under GNOME session? |
| 12:48.30 | brownie17 | freeone3000, so will it make any more likely to work as a plug-in in mozilla? |
| 12:48.37 | liable | hrm, i had a us gov adress spider my site .. wtf |
| 12:49.04 | freeone3000 | brownie17: Er. I've never had it actually do that. |
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| 12:49.28 | freeone3000 | brownie17: But it drops any requirements to gcj any other packages might have. |
| 12:49.44 | liable | i knew i shouldnt have read those politically sensitive slashdot stories... :P |
| 12:50.52 | freeone3000 | User-agent: * Disallow: /files Disallow: /img Disallow: /files/img Disallow: anime/files Disallow: anime/img Disallow: anime/files/img... |
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| 12:51.37 | Tassium | freeone3000: Heh, your faith in the government's honesty is amusing |
| 12:52.14 | brownie17 | these days every single computer nerd that hasn't even ever broken the law is completely terrified the governemtn is out to get him |
| 12:52.29 | Eclipser | "Direct Rendering: no" :( |
| 12:52.31 | liable | hehe, only those that read /. |
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| 12:53.35 | brownie17 | liable, ARGH! i can't run it as root because the thinger says oit's not safe, but it doesn't get the proper permissions to the folder it needs if it's not!!!! |
| 12:54.15 | freeone3000 | Forget the thinger. |
| 12:54.32 | Tassium | What's the thinger? |
| 12:54.36 | brownie17 | freeone3000, i can't, it doesn't give me an option, it just dissallows me to do it |
| 12:54.37 | freeone3000 | I ran it as root, and I am as you see me today. A proud user of a corperate non-free buggy inconsistant programing language. |
| 12:54.46 | freeone3000 | brownie17: sudo or su && it |
| 12:54.50 | brownie17 | Tassium, i dunno, lol. the .bin Java file i downloaded |
| 12:55.04 | brownie17 | freeone3000, did you read the comment? it won't let me do it as root |
| 12:55.21 | liable | brownie17: well, you *should* be able to run it as a user, thats the whole point of fakeroot.. |
| 12:55.32 | liable | brownie17: whats the perms on the .bin? |
| 12:55.54 | brownie17 | liable, 777 |
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| 12:56.28 | brownie17 | liable, it's not the file it's the folder the file is in that it needs to write to and can't. it stuffs up when it trys to write the output file |
| 12:57.04 | liable | brownie17: so move the .bin to your home.. |
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| 12:57.26 | liable | where it should be anyway if you downloaded it with a browser |
| 12:57.27 | brownie17 | liable, lol, thanks sherlock. i feel like a chump |
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| 12:58.40 | Eclipser | this is great |
| 12:58.46 | Eclipser | my glxgears runs less than 1 frame per second |
| 12:58.53 | liable | ouch |
| 12:58.59 | d4d0 | hi all, i have moved the phpmyadmin directory to some other place, edited the path in apache´s config as serverroot and also edited phpmyadmin.conf. im getting "no such file" errors in the phpmyadmin page. does anybody know whats wrong? |
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| 12:59.14 | Eclipser | it used to run ~100fps before I cleaned up my computer |
| 12:59.14 | liable | Eclipser: you got the mesa libs? |
| 12:59.17 | Eclipser | yep |
| 12:59.27 | Tassium | Eclipser: How do you get a FPS reading? |
| 12:59.37 | Eclipser | Tassium, I don't :p |
| 12:59.42 | Tassium | Eclipser: Ah. |
| 12:59.45 | Eclipser | it just moves one frame randomly |
| 12:59.50 | liable | Eclipser: actually, i used to get ~600, since 7.0 i get ~100 |
| 13:00.06 | liable | @glxgears |
| 13:00.07 | aptitude | it has been said that glxgears is an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 13:00.22 | liable | where did ravenbird go? |
| 13:00.22 | ktwilight | d4d0, best is to go to #apache :) |
| 13:00.57 | Eclipser | well anyway |
| 13:01.03 | Eclipser | it runs fine for about half a second |
| 13:01.10 | Eclipser | then it stops and moves one frame randomly |
| 13:01.12 | liable | Eclipser: pass that flag to it and see what it says |
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| 13:01.29 | Eclipser | it says unknown parameter :på |
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| 13:02.30 | CAiRO | what are the best settings for "sane" when i want to send the scanned image as fax? |
| 13:02.46 | Eclipser | liable, whops, I typoed it |
| 13:02.49 | liable | CAiRO: get xsane |
| 13:03.17 | liable | CAiRO: i have no idea, but maybe the gui might have some sort of options to make life easier |
| 13:03.24 | elkid | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.27 | Eclipser | uuh |
| 13:03.34 | Eclipser | liable, it's really broken :> |
| 13:03.52 | Eclipser | it says it runs ~113 fps, but in reality it only shows as if it moved one frame per second or so |
| 13:03.55 | Eclipser | ah well :p |
| 13:04.10 | CAiRO | liable: yes, xsane has a fax mode which doesn't work.. it only works if i scan the image and then send the fax manually with sendfax, thus i want to write a batch script which uses sane first |
| 13:04.17 | liable | Eclipser: i had similar problems when 7.0 first came out, but that was due to missing mesa libs that werent depended properly |
| 13:04.31 | Eclipser | interesting |
| 13:04.32 | elkid | where is the dpkg dude |
| 13:04.33 | Eclipser | I just installed etch |
| 13:05.11 | Eclipser | liable, anyway, I'd like to get DRI working, just for the fun of it |
| 13:05.21 | Eclipser | I have ATI Rage mobility :p |
| 13:05.32 | liable | elkid: you can use apt the trigger is ~ , or aptitude the trigger is @ |
| 13:05.41 | brownie17 | liable, so that thingo with fakeroot and the jpkg, can i use that to make a deb out of any installation bin i download? |
| 13:05.46 | liable | elkid: or just /msg apt foo |
| 13:06.06 | simonrvn | brownie17: no, only the java bins |
| 13:06.11 | liable | brownie17: its for java |
| 13:06.20 | elkid | liable, apt is same one isnt it |
| 13:06.22 | liable | simonrvn: did you change ravenbird trigger? |
| 13:06.38 | liable | elkid: no |
| 13:06.41 | simonrvn | no, it was always @ |
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| 13:06.53 | liable | hrm, didnt answer before.. |
| 13:06.58 | liable | @hi |
| 13:06.59 | aptitude | hello, liable |
| 13:06.59 | ravenbird | Many greetings, liable, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 13:07.05 | simonrvn | because it wasn't here for a while |
| 13:07.08 | liable | oh |
| 13:07.19 | liable | no, this was about 2 mins ago |
| 13:07.35 | liable | well, maybe 8 or so :P |
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| 13:08.35 | MoDaX | apt: ping |
| 13:08.37 | apt | pong |
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| 13:09.04 | elkid | apt:ping |
| 13:09.05 | apt | pong |
| 13:09.11 | elkid | :) |
| 13:09.18 | simonrvn | ... |
| 13:09.23 | MoDaX | a bit slow |
| 13:09.27 | MoDaX | 3 seconds |
| 13:09.28 | brownie17 | freeone3000, liable, it's all working! thanks |
| 13:09.39 | elkid | 3s for u? |
| 13:09.48 | MoDaX | yeah |
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| 13:10.05 | MoDaX | konvi says lag is ~200ms |
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| 13:13.14 | Eclipser | liable, got DRI working :) |
| 13:13.33 | liable | Eclipser: what was it? |
| 13:13.43 | Eclipser | missing mach64 module |
| 13:13.49 | Eclipser | whoa whoa whoa! |
| 13:13.56 | Eclipser | glxgears doesn't "freeze" |
| 13:14.04 | Eclipser | and, I got whooping 15fps more! |
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| 13:14.34 | liable | whats mach64 for? |
| 13:14.43 | liable | wooohooo 15fps!! |
| 13:14.44 | Tassium | liable: Isn't that a razor? |
| 13:14.56 | azeem | it's an old ATI graphics chip |
| 13:15.01 | Eclipser | liable, card chip |
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| 13:15.18 | xwind_ | My setup has two dhcpd.conf. one in /etc/ltsp and the other in /etc/dhcp3. Which one is used by dhcp3-server? |
| 13:15.23 | liable | oh, must be an old fucker |
| 13:15.28 | Eclipser | it is |
| 13:15.33 | Eclipser | ~8 years old laptop |
| 13:15.45 | liable | yikes |
| 13:15.45 | Eclipser | or 7 |
| 13:15.54 | Tassium | xwind_: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf is used by dhcp3-server |
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| 13:16.37 | Tassium | xwind_: /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf is used by ltsp-server-standalone |
| 13:16.41 | msn | i have an ati ax700 pro 256 MB PCI express card but chromum sucks on it |
| 13:16.47 | msn | how can I fix it |
| 13:16.53 | msn | I think its coz of MesaGL |
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| 13:17.01 | msn | but I don't know how to fix |
| 13:17.05 | xwind_ | hmmm ... if i boot my LTSP thinclient is /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, the one used? |
| 13:17.25 | xwind_ | oh ok. |
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| 13:18.27 | kikinovak | Hi. I want to download recursively a subirectory from a website, e. g. http://www.kikinovak.net/AustrianPsycho/ ... but when I do 'wget -r http://www.kikinovak.net/AustrianPsycho/' wget starts to download the whole site and its subdirectories. What's the missing option to only download one specific subdirectory tree? |
| 13:18.29 | halux | hi, someone knows if the iproute package of debian is iproute2 ? |
| 13:19.06 | msn | kikinovak: wget -c -l1 --no-parent |
| 13:19.19 | msn | its -l1 and not -11 |
| 13:19.41 | liable | halux: apt-cache show iproute |
| 13:19.43 | msn | -l(ondon) one |
| 13:19.52 | kikinovak | msn, thanks... but I guess it's only --no-parent as I want to go deep into the directory structure (example was just for testing purposes |
| 13:20.11 | xwind_ | Tassium, i am still confused. If i pxeboot a thinclient, the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf will be used. If i pxeboot to do network install, /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf will be the one.? |
| 13:20.14 | halux | liable: doesn't answer this question :( |
| 13:20.23 | liable | halux: um, yes it does.... |
| 13:20.26 | msn | no parent is not to make it download anything above that poinbt |
| 13:20.31 | halux | oh, maybe I should add, I am using woody |
| 13:20.38 | liable | right. |
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| 13:20.52 | msn | kikinovak: not below for below you use -l and the level to which you wanna go down |
| 13:21.03 | Tassium | xwind_: Is that a question or a statement? Either way, I don't know. I don't use ltsp myself. |
| 13:21.11 | halux | so the "2" means kernel 2.* ? apt-cache search iproute2 shows no result |
| 13:21.18 | liable | halux: well sarge upwards says it is, no idea about woody. you realise woody security stops son |
| 13:21.26 | kikinovak | msn, yeah but I *do* want to go to all the levels below:oD |
| 13:21.30 | blondie | ianw|away: we don't want your stupid auto messages thanks :D |
| 13:21.35 | liable | s/son/soon |
| 13:21.36 | halux | yeah, it is my firewall, don't like to upgrade... |
| 13:21.38 | kikinovak | anyway I'll give this a try |
| 13:21.46 | halux | but I think I have to soon |
| 13:22.08 | liable | halux: well, if its a firewall, dont you think having security upgrades is a good thing? |
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| 13:22.54 | liable | halux: sheesh, etch 'should' be stable by the years end... |
| 13:23.07 | xwind_ | Tassium: does the dhcp3-server only use 1 config file all the time ? |
| 13:23.22 | halux | liable: not really as there are no other users than root and no services listening on ports. Kernel upgrades are done my myself. |
| 13:23.45 | Tassium | xwind_: Yep, as far as I am aware |
| 13:23.53 | halux | liable: But of course there is a risc remaining, so I will update... Maybe to etch than... |
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| 13:26.28 | nuke_ | in which file can i add this line "options snd_hda_intel model=5stack"? |
| 13:26.30 | xwind_ | Am doing a network install, during the initial pxeboot, dhcp seems to be working ok. However, in the later part of the install when the net card is being auto-configured, dhcp seems unable to serve an IP to the client. |
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| 13:27.29 | msn | xwind_: just wondering what is your network card? |
| 13:27.47 | nuke_ | xwind_ :why not use static ip then? |
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| 13:27.51 | msn | does the ubutu install kernel have the driver for the network card |
| 13:27.51 | xwind_ | a built-in card on the motherboard. |
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| 13:27.58 | xwind_ | realtek 8139 |
| 13:28.02 | liable | nuke_: in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base prolly |
| 13:28.15 | liable | nuke_: though the alsa site will tell you i spose.. |
| 13:28.20 | msn | try install ubuntu with cd and see if network works |
| 13:28.28 | xwind_ | yes it is a popular card. |
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| 13:28.57 | msn | if it does you need a new kernel image or initrdimege in your boot environment |
| 13:29.00 | xwind_ | is it not enough to confirm that the network card is ok with the pxeboot being successful? |
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| 13:29.11 | msn | the card is okey |
| 13:29.30 | msn | but the kernel which loads afterwards needs to have the module to use the kernel |
| 13:29.30 | xwind_ | i can boot the machine as a thinclient. |
| 13:29.31 | msn | else it would fail |
| 13:29.54 | msn | well then you seirously need to check the modules available with the PXE environemnt kernl |
| 13:29.59 | xwind_ | but only when i try installing the distro on the harddisk that i am encountering this problem. |
| 13:30.10 | nuke_ | liable :alsa site hasnt been able to get my audui running..i found a page on the gentoowiki site that maybe has a fix for myprob but that doesnt work either :( |
| 13:30.27 | msn | yeah that's why check the install environment kernel modules |
| 13:30.34 | msn | I doubt that the driver is there in it |
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| 13:31.03 | msn | that's one of the major reason for PXE install to fail |
| 13:31.03 | xwind_ | hmmm. let me take a look. |
| 13:31.04 | liable | nuke_: hrm, you can always add that to /etc/modules but i dunno if the card will be loaded first from other modules file |
| 13:31.24 | killown | anyone know one free registration domain email? |
| 13:31.27 | mkuzu | Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio |
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| 13:31.50 | mkuzu | I need help about this device |
| 13:31.53 | liable | nuke_: the modprobe.d thing is something i havent ever really taken the time to understand exactly how it works :( |
| 13:32.04 | mkuzu | on alsa |
| 13:32.17 | nuke_ | mkuzu : ive been busting my head over the same thing all day with no luck |
| 13:32.17 | mkuzu | I tried compiling the kernel |
| 13:32.27 | mkuzu | but I could not get the thing working |
| 13:32.34 | cahoot | nuke: anyway the snd-hda-intel module has had some important fixes between 1.0.10 and 1.0.11 |
| 13:32.42 | mkuzu | so? |
| 13:32.44 | nuke_ | mkuzu : do u get a invalid argument when trying to run xmms or anything? |
| 13:32.45 | mkuzu | choot: so? |
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| 13:32.56 | mkuzu | when I try alsaconf |
| 13:33.07 | nuke_ | cahoot: i just dida dist-upgrade to unstable |
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| 13:33.33 | nuke_ | mkuzu : do you get htis error? "alsa_get_mixer(): Failed to load mixer: Invalid argument" |
| 13:33.34 | mkuzu | I cannot get the alsa-mixer actually |
| 13:33.37 | mkuzu | yes |
| 13:33.40 | mkuzu | nuke:yes |
| 13:33.56 | liable | mkuzu: alsamixer, not alsa-mixer.. |
| 13:34.00 | mkuzu | yes yes |
| 13:34.03 | mkuzu | alsamixer |
| 13:34.15 | nuke_ | join the club...i havent been able to get it running all day |
| 13:34.30 | mkuzu | :-) |
| 13:34.49 | mkuzu | And you did it after the day? |
| 13:35.02 | nuke_ | try going through these 2 pages and see if you can work it out |
| 13:35.06 | nuke_ | no..this is still my 1st day |
| 13:35.08 | nuke_ | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions//showthread.php?t=448503 |
| 13:35.19 | nuke_ | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Clevo_M38AW |
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| 13:35.53 | nuke_ | read through these 2 pages and see if you can do anyting |
| 13:36.56 | eastwood | the gui? alsamixergui ? |
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| 13:37.16 | pumpkin0 | i have just update my debian-testing to xorg 7.0. Everything´s well, except the very ugly fonts in some progs. console looks good, xchat looks bad. I already have disable TFT-subpixel and enabled hinting. what next ? |
| 13:37.16 | nuke_ | we cant get any mixer |
| 13:37.50 | Akulah | A |
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| 13:39.25 | xwind_ | msn: can't figure out where to find the kernel modules. |
| 13:39.44 | eastwood | xwind_, cat /etc/modules |
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| 13:40.13 | eastwood | pumpkin0, have u got the fonts in the 1st place? |
| 13:40.41 | pumpkin0 | which ones ? 75dpi, 100dpi, scaled and basic are installed. plus some others ... |
| 13:40.52 | xwind_ | eastwood, this is in a network install scenario. msn wants me to check if my net card is supported by the network installer. |
| 13:41.09 | pumpkin0 | and it worked with xorg 6.9... why should the update remove them |
| 13:41.30 | eastwood | pumpkin0, have you got x-window-system-core |
| 13:41.32 | pumpkin0 | xwind_: /lib/modules/<your-kernel>/ |
| 13:41.40 | Gnea | !xorg7 |
| 13:41.52 | liable | hes dead |
| 13:41.59 | Gnea | ~xorg7 |
| 13:42.05 | eastwood | wtf |
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| 13:42.12 | liable | eastwood: that is no longer the meta package for 7.0 |
| 13:42.13 | Gnea | liable: did they do a complete bot move to oftc? |
| 13:42.30 | liable | Gnea: no, dpkg is just dead, apt is lagging :) |
| 13:42.31 | eastwood | k |
| 13:42.37 | Maulkin | The bots should both be here... |
| 13:42.40 | abrotman | aptitude: xorg7 |
| 13:42.40 | aptitude | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
| 13:42.57 | Gnea | aptitude: beer abrotman |
| 13:42.59 | abrotman | Maulkin: they are .. they're dying or dead |
| 13:43.05 | abrotman | yay .. yuengling! |
| 13:43.05 | Maulkin | Ok, ta |
| 13:43.13 | Gnea | it appears everything is ok |
| 13:43.13 | Tassium | Gnea: What's oftc? |
| 13:43.22 | Gnea | Tassium: /topic |
| 13:43.34 | Tassium | Gnea: Yeah, the topic says /msg dpkg oftc move |
| 13:43.38 | Tassium | Gnea: That ain't gonna work too well |
| 13:43.43 | abrotman | aptitude: ati |
| 13:43.43 | aptitude | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
| 13:43.48 | liable | heh, good point |
| 13:43.56 | Gnea | Tassium: as you can clearly see, aptitude is in fine working order. |
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| 13:44.13 | mkuzu | nuke: maybe we should try building ALSA from the source? |
| 13:44.42 | pumpkin0 | i knew about Xorg69To7 ... didn´t help. |
| 13:44.43 | liable | nuke_: i think cahoot had a suggestion you might want to look into.. |
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| 13:45.27 | Tassium | Gnea: I wasn't familiar with aptitude. |
| 13:45.40 | Gnea | Tassium: neither was I until about 90 seconds ago. |
| 13:45.44 | mkuzu | cahoot: did you? |
| 13:45.50 | liable | is don gonna pull dpkg from here, or did we just need another bot? |
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| 13:46.23 | xwind_ | pumpkin0: wud it be more logical if it is somewhere inside /var/lib/tftpboot, i am trying to do a network install and it fails in the network auto configuration stage. |
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| 13:46.47 | Gnea | Tassium: so obviously, /msg aptitude oftc move |
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| 13:47.01 | unhappy | hey |
| 13:47.12 | Gnea | it's a complete mirror of dpkg |
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| 13:47.43 | cahoot | mkuzu: only that snd-hda-intel has had some major changes between alsa 1.0.10 and 1.0.11 |
| 13:48.02 | mkuzu | I see |
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| 13:48.11 | mkuzu | so you recommend building the alsa module |
| 13:48.15 | mkuzu | from the source |
| 13:48.35 | cahoot | mkuzu: an be worth a try |
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| 13:48.39 | cahoot | can |
| 13:48.40 | pumpkin0 | xwind_: the network-CD has to contain all modules needed for networking, otherwise you cannot reach the network-server and download them ... so search the CD. |
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| 13:49.14 | Eclipser | o.O O.O O.o |
| 13:49.20 | Eclipser | my visudo uses nano |
| 13:49.23 | Eclipser | O_O |
| 13:49.27 | liable | xwind_: but can you set a static ip? |
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| 13:49.38 | Eclipser | scary shit |
| 13:49.50 | mkuzu | nuke, cahoot: I am giving it a try now |
| 13:50.28 | xwind_ | pumpkin0: that's the tricky part. because the cd has been published at /var/www but before it can be accessed, an ip must be given during the base install. |
| 13:51.28 | xwind_ | i tried manually assigning the ip but it still can not find the server. |
| 13:51.54 | liable | Eclipser: update-alternatives --config editor |
| 13:52.00 | RvGaTe | Can anyone confirm me that it's possible to play Counterstrike Source using wine, on the debian stable, using gnome? |
| 13:52.08 | xwind_ | apache has been verified to be working ok at the server. |
| 13:52.37 | Eclipser | liable, ah better, I was scouring through the update-alternatives man page, but thanks :) |
| 13:52.39 | pumpkin0 | xwind_: let me get this straight: your netinstall-CD (the one you put into the PC you want to install) needs an module to use the networkcard. Is that module working ? |
| 13:52.49 | liable | Eclipser: np |
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| 13:53.08 | msn | xwind_: check it in /var/lib/tftp/ |
| 13:54.02 | xwind_ | msn: only initrd.gz and linux is in there alongside pxelinux.0 |
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| 13:54.24 | msn | then you to look for it in initrd.gz |
| 13:54.25 | mkuzu | by the way |
| 13:54.33 | mkuzu | have you tried FAI |
| 13:54.37 | xwind_ | pumpkin0: there is no cdrom involve. |
| 13:54.42 | mkuzu | (not related to sound) |
| 13:54.50 | mkuzu | FAI: Fully automated installation |
| 13:55.00 | msn | xwind_: search on google there is document which tells you how to open initrd.gz and modify it |
| 13:55.15 | msn | its basically done using cpio |
| 13:55.22 | msn | but I don't remember how I did it |
| 13:55.28 | msn | its been 7 yrs |
| 13:55.37 | xwind_ | i tried opening that. it gives me initrd (cpio arcive?) can't see the individual files. |
| 13:55.48 | msn | look for the document |
| 13:56.08 | msn | it will give you how to mount it what to do with it and how to modify it too |
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| 13:56.33 | ktwilight | do i need to open up port 53 (dns) when i'm not using the server as a dns server? |
| 13:56.38 | ktwilight | ie no BIND9 |
| 13:56.45 | msn | ktwilight: no |
| 13:56.52 | itchi | volume 150 % |
| 13:56.58 | xwind_ | before that, i noticed one thing. in the middle of the install, i hit alt-f2 to open a console and i did an ifconfig. the HWAddr of the eth0 are all FFs |
| 13:57.33 | ktwilight | msn, how does a dns server recognise my webserver then? |
| 13:57.37 | itchi | neigborhood make noise, i make noise with amarok :-) |
| 13:57.37 | ktwilight | merely by ip address? |
| 13:57.45 | msn | yup |
| 13:57.59 | msn | ktwilight: just by ip address, |
| 13:58.00 | xwind_ | could it be that my netcard is faulty? |
| 13:58.05 | itchi | Sinds the music day, i still buggy |
| 13:58.16 | msn | ktwilight: the dnsserver never contacts your webserver |
| 13:58.21 | xwind_ | it's a built-in on my motherboard. |
| 13:58.25 | sep | ktwilight, dns server just map name to ip, nothing more. it have no notion of webserver or whatnot. it's the client that contact the webserver after using dns to get it's ip |
| 13:58.44 | ktwilight | oh right... |
| 13:58.49 | msn | xwind_: first check the modules, then check bios |
| 13:58.50 | ktwilight | is that simple eh... |
| 13:58.58 | sep | ktwilight, yes |
| 13:58.59 | ktwilight | make sense...haha |
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| 13:59.06 | ktwilight | thanks for clearin' up my confusing :) |
| 13:59.07 | msn | xwind_: but first be sure about the module |
| 13:59.23 | xwind_ | will do that. thanks. |
| 13:59.37 | cahoot | nuke: mkuzu you might also read the snd-hda-intel options here: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt?v=2.6.16.18 |
| 14:00.11 | mkuzu | cahoot: my first attempt failed |
| 14:00.26 | mkuzu | I did the make install-modules for alsa |
| 14:00.37 | mkuzu | and when I tried alsaconf |
| 14:00.53 | mkuzu | It could not even load the basic modules |
| 14:01.03 | mkuzu | I removed the alsa-base package |
| 14:01.12 | mkuzu | and I tried make install with alsa |
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| 14:01.31 | NiNja82 | salut |
| 14:01.33 | NiNja82 | ya des fr ici ? |
| 14:01.39 | sep | xwind_, if all else fail just set the mac with ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:00:AA:AA:AA" |
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| 14:03.11 | xwind_ | thanks sep. will try that as well. but i just re-tested booting the target comp as a thinclient and it works ok so the net card is definitely ok as well. |
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| 14:06.04 | rmbrain | Does anybody know if I can get a free Java JRE so I can run a .jar file flawlessly? I am trying to use FlickrBackup ... |
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| 14:06.28 | steve_dondley | hello |
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| 14:06.39 | Gnea | aptitude: java-package |
| 14:06.39 | aptitude | from memory, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 14:06.54 | DerJamster | rmbrain: http://www.google.com/linux, search for free jvm :> |
| 14:07.16 | fhffhqvb | !test |
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| 14:07.17 | itchi | failed :-p |
| 14:07.34 | rmbrain | Gnea, I said free, not proprietary |
| 14:07.53 | Gnea | rmbrain: surely you jest. |
| 14:07.59 | azeem | Gnea: hrm? |
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| 14:08.13 | azeem | rmbrain: there are a couple of options, but you will need to investigate yourself, probably |
| 14:09.04 | rmbrain | azeem, what are those options? |
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| 14:09.18 | azeem | rmbrain: gcj/classpath, sablevm/kaffe etc. |
| 14:09.29 | rmbrain | azeem, thank you |
| 14:09.45 | azeem | http://packages.debian.org/free-java-sdk |
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| 14:10.02 | Gnea | i stand corrected. |
| 14:10.35 | rmbrain | azeem, hmmm ... i have the free-java-sdk package installed, but maybe this particular program requires the non-free Java distribution of their SDK and/or JRE |
| 14:10.52 | azeem | rmbrain: that could be, depending on what features that program needs |
| 14:11.02 | azeem | the free java stack is not 100% there yet |
| 14:11.45 | azeem | rmbrain: however, that meta-package is only one possibility AFAIK, there are a couple of different free software projects for various parts of the java stack |
| 14:11.49 | stew | rmbrain: apt-cache search java-virtual-machine |
| 14:11.58 | azeem | so with some experimenting, you might find a combination that works |
| 14:12.10 | stew | rmbrain: have you tried and gotten an error? |
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| 14:12.53 | rmbrain | stew, yes i have ... the interface will not load. i get a gray dialog box with nothing on it ... no text, no buttons, just the title and dialog box |
| 14:13.06 | azeem | rmbrain: it's a swing application? |
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| 14:13.24 | rmbrain | azeem, i dont know ... search SourceForge for FlickrBackup |
| 14:13.31 | rmbrain | azeem, the program itself is GPL licensed |
| 14:13.52 | azeem | rmbrain: so check the documentation/source |
| 14:14.11 | azeem | rmbrain: also, there is a team in Debian working on getting as many applications running with a free java stack as possible |
| 14:14.13 | rmbrain | azeem, i do not know java |
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| 14:14.15 | azeem | you could check their status |
| 14:14.16 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of fhffhqvb) |
| 14:14.19 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 14:14.20 | badgers | No, fhffhqvb, you're not online any more. |
| 14:14.29 | rmbrain | azeem, isnt Sun's Java being freed soon? |
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| 14:14.37 | azeem | rmbrain: maybe |
| 14:15.43 | rmbrain | Are there any advantages to using the unstable or testing versions of Debian? |
| 14:15.51 | azeem | rmbrain: that depends |
| 14:15.55 | azeem | there are disadvantages |
| 14:16.02 | sid | dpkg hi |
| 14:16.04 | azeem | so whether it is a net-plus for you depends on what you need |
| 14:16.06 | rmbrain | azeem, i want my rt2500 wireless PCMCIA card to work |
| 14:16.08 | azeem | sid: down |
| 14:16.11 | liable | some of each i guess.. |
| 14:16.24 | azeem | rmbrain: so just updating the kernel might be more helpful then |
| 14:16.29 | xwind_ | sep: i tried ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:00:AA:AA:AA but the HWAddr did not change, still all FFs. Will now study how to disect initrd. |
| 14:17.03 | liable | rmbrain: i have gotten a rt2400 to work on sarge before. the sourceforge packages worked fine |
| 14:17.08 | rmbrain | azeem, i have the 2.8 kernel |
| 14:17.14 | rmbrain | azeem, on my laptop, too |
| 14:17.16 | liable | +6 |
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| 14:17.43 | fhffhqvb | 2.8? |
| 14:17.46 | liable | unless he has the ultra secret new development kernel |
| 14:17.53 | stew | rmbrain: what does "uname -s" say? |
| 14:18.15 | rmbrain | stew, Linux |
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| 14:18.23 | azeem | rmbrain: uname -r |
| 14:18.30 | ChrisW | hi, how can I send a message to the console of another user who's logged in? |
| 14:18.35 | rmbrain | 2.6.8-3-386 |
| 14:18.42 | stew | ChrisW: with "write" |
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| 14:19.26 | fhffhqvb | cat boo! > /dev/tty7 |
| 14:19.41 | ChrisW | stew: how can i tell if it got through? |
| 14:19.49 | ChrisW | it's someone else logged in as root on the same box as me |
| 14:19.55 | ChrisW | on pts/0 |
| 14:20.00 | liable | rmbrain: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400/ are these the ones you tried? |
| 14:20.08 | rmbrain | liable, i have a rt2500 card |
| 14:20.35 | dm_ | Hello. I want to add a printer to CUPS but cannot use its web interface. What files do I have to modify to make it work? (The printer is found by lsusb and I can cat ps files to /dev/usblp0) |
| 14:20.39 | liable | rmbrain: yes, actually read the page instead of just the url... |
| 14:20.51 | fhffhqvb | ChrisW: using screen? |
| 14:20.59 | azeem | dm_: why can't you use the web interface? |
| 14:21.00 | rmbrain | liable, i am sorry |
| 14:21.03 | ChrisW | fhffhqvb: how does that help? |
| 14:21.13 | liable | rmbrain: no problem |
| 14:21.16 | fhffhqvb | ChrisW: are. you. using. screen. |
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| 14:21.22 | ChrisW | no |
| 14:21.29 | fhffhqvb | ChrisW: you got hax0red then |
| 14:21.30 | ChrisW | and neither is the other user |
| 14:21.32 | ChrisW | no |
| 14:21.39 | ChrisW | it's a sysadmin from the hosting company |
| 14:21.40 | junix-other | stoned: you there? |
| 14:21.43 | stew | ChrisW: type "write root", type your message, hit endter, then hit ctrl-d . it should have goteen through, the other person is probably trying to figure out how to respond |
| 14:21.49 | ChrisW | and I want to tell him to stop doing whatever the fuck he's doing... |
| 14:22.16 | ChrisW | stew: write root pts/0 ? |
| 14:22.16 | dm_ | azeem: Most parts of the file system are read only so cups can't modify those files. That leads me to 2nd question: Which dirs must be writable for cupsd when it's working then? |
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| 14:22.19 | kastberg | that's when you use kill -9 :) |
| 14:22.22 | ChrisW | (is what I did) |
| 14:22.39 | ChrisW | said "write: write: you have write permission turned off." but still let me type, which I did, and then hit ctrl-d |
| 14:22.44 | ChrisW | is it likely to have gotten through? |
| 14:22.58 | stew | ChrisW: hmm, maybe not then. |
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| 14:23.45 | binarym | hi all |
| 14:23.55 | binarym | Is there any known issues about xpdf on stable ? |
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| 14:24.08 | stew | ChrisW: you could also just: echo "your message" > /dev/pts/0 |
| 14:24.10 | unhappy | hey ppl. i have a geforce2 card therefore i'd probably need the legacy driver v.7174. where can i find a patch to make it work w/ 2.6.8 that comes w/ my debian system |
| 14:24.12 | binarym | every time i launch it, it makes my XFree crash |
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| 14:24.16 | dm_ | azeem: I tried to add the printer before (cups had found it as a new printer and I clicked on "Add this printer" ... but it ended with "unable to copy ppd file" ... |
| 14:24.38 | stew | ChrisW: and if you want to just stop what he is doing you could also just kill his shell process |
| 14:25.25 | liable | binarym: hrm, xpdf was upgraded from security a while back. did you get the upgrade? |
| 14:25.34 | binarym | liable: yes, i did |
| 14:26.21 | liable | binarym: ok. does it do it with any pdf? |
| 14:26.36 | binarym | liable: yes, any pdf make it crash |
| 14:26.57 | liable | binarym: ok. check the bts then i guess. |
| 14:27.03 | binarym | liable: on XFree's logfile i have |
| 14:27.04 | binarym | Fatal server error: |
| 14:27.04 | binarym | Caught signal 8. Server aborting |
| 14:27.12 | unhappy | clear |
| 14:27.12 | binarym | SIGFPE :( |
| 14:28.05 | binarym | liable: i checked http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xpdf but nothing about such a bug |
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| 14:28.21 | ChrisW | I think he got the message ;-) |
| 14:28.23 | ktwilight | does anyone use firehol here? |
| 14:28.26 | formorer | sure |
| 14:28.29 | ktwilight | got a Q 'bout sports/cports |
| 14:28.32 | ChrisW | thanks for the help! |
| 14:28.33 | ktwilight | formorer! :) |
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| 14:28.44 | liable | binarym: well, i guess your best course of action is to file one then |
| 14:28.47 | ktwilight | is sports another way of saying inbound ports? and cports outbounds? |
| 14:29.11 | ktwilight | i'm guessing it's safe to enable all outbounds, but limit on the inbounds/listening ports, right? |
| 14:29.26 | ktwilight | i worked with apf, so am not sure 'bout firehol's terminology :/ |
| 14:29.37 | unhappy | someone pls confirm that you can see what i'm typing |
| 14:29.44 | liable | whats the point of having a service if you firewall it? |
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| 14:29.48 | liable | unhappy: yes |
| 14:30.15 | ktwilight | liable, sorry, don't udnerstand. |
| 14:30.15 | itchi | ktwilight: I user firestarter if you want to know |
| 14:30.48 | formorer | ktwilight: yeah its possible and works |
| 14:31.20 | ktwilight | k, so far so good then. thanks :) |
| 14:31.35 | ktwilight | itchi, will look into it. thanks |
| 14:31.50 | formorer | ktwilight: but you want something like: client all accept |
| 14:32.07 | formorer | ktwilight: and for everything else default it to deny the connection |
| 14:32.12 | ktwilight | yup |
| 14:33.04 | unhappy | does anyone know if there's a way to make debian work on wide screen |
| 14:33.09 | ktwilight | formorer, is it possible that i define each interface with unique rules, and then a general rule for all interfaces? |
| 14:33.41 | ktwilight | eg ICMP for eth0:5 in one group, and then eth0, eth1, eth2, etc. in separate groups with unique rules. |
| 14:34.44 | formorer | hmm I don't think so |
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| 14:37.31 | tuxedup | i was wondering, does using beagle use a lare amount of system resources? I know it will when it is indexing, but what aboutonce it has carried the indexing it does periodically, is it heavy then? |
| 14:37.53 | ktwilight | k thanks formorer :) |
| 14:38.18 | itchi | I was made for loving you :-) |
| 14:38.23 | xwind_ | msn, i surrender with network install. just have to do cdrom install on all the workstations. will research netboot/install when i have time in the future. thanks all. |
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| 14:45.42 | abrotman | unhappy: it is |
| 14:45.55 | unhappy | what' us |
| 14:45.58 | unhappy | what' up |
| 14:46.24 | unhappy | abortman: what do you mean |
| 14:46.32 | wdamn | Hi, what do you advice as a very light (but usable) desktop manager? |
| 14:46.37 | abrotman | unhappy: possible to do widescreen |
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| 14:46.41 | abrotman | wdamn: DE or DM ? |
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| 14:47.04 | wdamn | abrotman: DM |
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| 14:47.08 | unhappy | abortman do i have to install proprietary nvidia drivers or can i just use nv driver |
| 14:47.23 | itchi | wdamn: xdm |
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| 14:47.35 | liable | hehe |
| 14:47.50 | wdamn | abauer, itchi : sorry I meant window manager |
| 14:47.50 | jair | do you guys remember how to customize bash so I can have the highlight colors, directories, scripts, etc.. with colors? |
| 14:47.54 | itchi | our house,... in the middle of the street |
| 14:48.05 | abrotman | unhappy: eh .. no idea with nvidia .. maybe ask #nvidia |
| 14:48.07 | itchi | wdamn: I love fluxbox :-) |
| 14:48.11 | abrotman | wdamn: xdm ? |
| 14:48.23 | wdamn | itchi: me too, but something lighter? |
| 14:48.25 | liable | jair: ~/.bashrc uncomment the ls alias |
| 14:48.41 | itchi | wdamn: Yes, an empty computer :-p |
| 14:48.52 | wdamn | abauer: sorry, I meant window manger |
| 14:48.55 | wdamn | itchi: eheh |
| 14:48.59 | itchi | wdamn: I not know somethings lighter as it |
| 14:49.05 | abrotman | wdamn: eh .. blackbox? xfce? |
| 14:49.08 | unhappy | #nvidia has a vitality of lacy peterson |
| 14:49.10 | abrotman | wdamn: or lighter than that? |
| 14:49.12 | itchi | wdamn: I guess there are somethings ~ |
| 14:49.17 | jair | liable: it is all I have to do?? I don't remember very well to finish all the highlighting :) |
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| 14:49.42 | wdamn | itchi, abrotman : smt like icewm |
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| 14:50.01 | itchi | wdamn: Look to what abrotman told ;-) |
| 14:50.02 | abrotman | so use icewm ? |
| 14:50.50 | liable | jair: ya |
| 14:51.16 | jair | liable: but I can not open the /bin/bash file, where do I find the one you send me? |
| 14:51.36 | jair | liable: my profile? |
| 14:51.40 | liable | jair: its a dot file in your home dir |
| 14:51.54 | itchi | jair: xchat ? |
| 14:52.02 | jair | itchi: irssi |
| 14:52.16 | jair | liable: I think i found it, bashrc |
| 14:52.24 | itchi | jair: hhhm, that i not know :-/ |
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| 14:52.54 | jair | itchi: I am actually talking about bash haha :) it is ok. |
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| 14:53.21 | jair | liable: all the ls files needs to be uncomment? |
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| 14:53.37 | liable | jair: the colours aliases.. |
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| 14:54.07 | itchi | These files you pass via irc, are these logged ? |
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| 14:54.35 | liable | there was no file passed in irc.. |
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| 14:54.52 | rmbrain | I cannot get my printer to work, but it did before. Do I need to change the permissions or something? |
| 14:55.03 | five0 | is there a tool that allows cropping of mp3's, and fade to silence? |
| 14:55.11 | rmbrain | five0, audacity |
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| 14:55.17 | jair | liable: I think there are--> # export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' |
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| 14:55.36 | jair | liable: and this one --># eval "`dircolors`" |
| 14:55.44 | five0 | rmbrain: what about just for that specifc basic function? |
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| 14:55.59 | rmbrain | five0, no |
| 14:56.00 | itchi | liable: So it's direct send to the user then ? |
| 14:56.01 | five0 | also, are you guys getting #debian's ban list every so often? |
| 14:56.18 | five0 | rmbrain: no, you don't know? |
| 14:56.24 | rmbrain | five0, no i do not know |
| 14:56.32 | orgw | chmod 777 * |
| 14:57.04 | liable | itchi: no. i didnt send him anything. just the way he said it sounds like i did.. |
| 14:57.21 | itchi | liable: ;-) |
| 14:57.46 | liable | jair: what file is that? |
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| 14:58.52 | jair | that is the .bashrc on my root home directory. |
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| 14:59.14 | jair | liable: I am assuming that I will need to do the same in the users home directory right? |
| 15:00.41 | liable | jair: yeah |
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| 15:02.07 | setcode | hello |
| 15:02.16 | itchi | setcode: Hello :-P |
| 15:02.18 | jair | liable: this looks ok or should I uncomment all the lines on the file? http://pastebin.com/727480 |
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| 15:02.37 | itchi | setcode: :-) |
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| 15:03.38 | liable | jair: just try it. if its not what you want, change it back. |
| 15:03.55 | jair | liable: can I sew yours? |
| 15:03.59 | jair | ok |
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| 15:04.38 | jair | because I am changing the one of root, but I am checking the one for a regular user and it have already some of the lines uncommented. |
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| 15:07.22 | jair | liable: I think it is working :) thank you very much liable :) |
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| 15:09.45 | liable | jair: think? you will need to log out for the changes to take effect |
| 15:10.04 | liable | jair: then do ls, and hopefully you will have colours |
| 15:10.14 | LoneWlf | Colors... beautiful colors |
| 15:10.24 | liable | jair: well, exit from su anyway.. |
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| 15:10.45 | LoneWlf | liable: I must ask, what inspired the name? |
| 15:11.10 | liable | LoneWlf: to tell the truth, i have no fucking idea. |
| 15:11.29 | LoneWlf | liable: cool, no worries |
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| 15:13.32 | h00t | hey |
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| 15:14.22 | jair | liable: I did check and it works :) |
| 15:14.39 | jair | I just did the changes as appear on the pastebin file I sent you. |
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| 15:15.07 | liable | jair: cool |
| 15:15.37 | jair | liable: but what those other aliases does the ones that start with rm='rm -i'? |
| 15:15.46 | jair | liable: that one I have it commented still |
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| 15:16.45 | jair | liable: should I uncomment all the aliases? |
| 15:16.49 | liable | jair: when you do rm, it asks you to confirm. man rm |
| 15:17.15 | jair | liable: ohh so if I uncoment it it will or will not ask me? |
| 15:17.17 | liable | jair: its not a bad idea to uncomment them |
| 15:17.22 | liable | it will |
| 15:17.25 | jair | liable: I got it |
| 15:17.27 | jair | nice |
| 15:17.32 | jair | yes much safer haha |
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| 15:22.14 | roxy_ | I would like to install ekiga (from unstable) on my system (testing) . What is the best way to do it ? |
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| 15:22.36 | jair | liable: thank you very much |
| 15:22.39 | pipeline | roxy_: google "apt pinning for beginners" |
| 15:23.15 | liable | jair: no problem |
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| 15:24.03 | jair | liable: I was wondering if will be possible some day to have a group team that will be part of debian community and group that will be providing support on the system, but the companies like, oracle, hp, ibm, sap, etc.. can recognize or certify debian. |
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| 15:24.11 | roxy_ | pipeline: thanks, found it: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 15:24.58 | jair | liable: I know is a list of debian consultants on the debian page but debian by itself is not in the list of certified OS for oracle, sap, ibm, hp, etc.. |
| 15:25.18 | jair | liable: and I really love this system, it is amazing all that can do. |
| 15:25.31 | Coweater | jair: tell them you want them to certify it |
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| 15:25.35 | liable | jair: thats something i have absolutelt no idea about :) |
| 15:26.55 | jair | Coweater: how? |
| 15:27.05 | jair | liable: haha really? |
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| 15:27.13 | jair | liable: did you go to sleep? |
| 15:27.59 | jair | Coweater: like for example the holy shokewave thing is something I am still waiting for in order to have a nother little feature important for kids and teens |
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| 15:29.18 | Coweater | i'm not sure what that has to do with certification, that's a matter of people coding a complete free shockwave player |
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| 15:33.23 | shogunx | jair why is a proprietary data format important to teens and kids? I would think it would be more important that they have a free and open standard than interoperability with an inferior, closed app. |
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| 15:33.32 | avenger__ | not sure |
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| 15:35.01 | KrLoS | hi |
| 15:35.23 | KrLoS | some one knows which dependences must have etch for running dbdesigner4 |
| 15:35.54 | jair | shogunx: I am sorry I think you mis understand me. I mean that kids sometimes want to use some of those applications, and when they can't is just a big impact for them and their parents. |
| 15:36.02 | abrotman | apt-cache depends <pkg> |
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| 15:36.42 | jair | shogunx: when I set up my dual boot lab 16 pcs Debian sarge 3.1 and windows xp pro, everybody wanted to be on windows because of the shockwave, the teens |
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| 15:36.54 | godmachine81 | can anyone here help me with blackbox slit? |
| 15:37.00 | jair | shogunx: the older people were ok with debian. |
| 15:37.13 | godmachine81 | the slit doesnt work properly and im using "docker" |
| 15:37.19 | jair | shogunx: I am just bringing a real case scenario |
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| 15:38.27 | shogunx | jair i understand. the issue is not a problem with debian. the issue is a problem with macromedia, and a bastardly little policy called vendor lockin. |
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| 15:39.21 | shogunx | to be fair... commercial os's that support falsh/shockwave do not really have to do any extra work to support it... they just have to bundle it. |
| 15:39.48 | shogunx | we have to reverse engineer the file formats, and build it up from scratch, without any help. |
| 15:40.13 | junix-other | stoned: you there? |
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| 15:40.36 | shogunx | jair, btw, you could cut the power consumption in your lab by a large percentage by using thin clients instead of pcs. |
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| 15:41.43 | qweo | hello all |
| 15:41.54 | shogunx | just a real case scenario of a factor that does and will continue to have a real effect (i know, i have kids too... kids whining because of no cartoon is a real effect too:) |
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| 15:42.37 | qweo | anybody know bootloader,what can boot from ISO-image,located on HD? Or it's impossible? |
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| 15:45.17 | lepton | qweo: burn a CD |
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| 15:45.50 | sherdog | <sherdog> hey all. I got an old 500mhz IBM intellistation. It boots knoppix, but not Debian. (have testet debian on other machines) does anyone have a clue? |
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| 15:46.34 | lepton | sherdog: where/how does the boot fail? any boot messages? |
| 15:46.49 | KrLoS | no one has use dbdesigner |
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| 15:47.38 | sherdog | lepton just says no operating system found |
| 15:48.19 | shogunx | sherdog, burn yourself a new cd. your cdrom does not find your cd friendly enough to boot from. |
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| 15:48.49 | sherdog | shogunx hmm, okay I will try that. thx mate |
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| 15:48.54 | sherdog | and u to lepton :) |
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| 15:50.48 | rmbrain | Can somebody please help me? Firefox will not print a page, and I do not understand why |
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| 15:51.36 | rmbrain | This problem is exclusively a Firefox issue. |
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| 15:54.33 | rmbrain | I seem to have all the printer systems up and ready. :-) |
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| 15:54.47 | Bitz | hi, is there a way to give kjournald a bigger slice of memory? |
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| 15:57.33 | ktwilight | finally finished with firehol! :D |
| 15:57.43 | ktwilight | at least that's one down 1000000000 to go... |
| 15:58.12 | rmbrain | Is there a way I can get Firefox to print stuff? |
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| 15:58.37 | streuner_ | prolly a cups problem |
| 15:58.49 | rmbrain | streuner, does your firefox print fine? |
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| 15:59.06 | streuner_ | thats not the issue |
| 15:59.24 | streuner_ | you want get your printer working, right? |
| 15:59.29 | itchi | In ardour the fonts are without antialiasing it's look, i only get it in that app. |
| 15:59.46 | evilbulgarian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:00.09 | rmbrain | streuner, my printer works, just not within firefox or any other browser |
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| 16:00.39 | streuner_ | so do you use CUPS? |
| 16:00.47 | rmbrain | streuner, yes ... |
| 16:01.11 | itchi | hhhm It's ardour GTK, somethings wrong with GTK in Testing, i guess i forget somethings |
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| 16:02.28 | itchi | gtk2-engines-gtk-qt are not installed, i'm not sure if it's the cause |
| 16:02.32 | rmbrain | streuner, any ideas? |
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| 16:02.46 | streuner_ | rmbrain: what does the browser say itself when you trying to print? |
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| 16:03.23 | rmbrain | streuner, it does nothing. |
| 16:03.32 | streuner_ | rmbrain: do you print over lpd? |
| 16:03.54 | rmbrain | streuner, i do not know what that means |
| 16:03.55 | pumpkin0 | is there a safe way to get libc6 2.4 in testing or unstable ? No which does not include reinstalling the whole thing ? |
| 16:04.00 | rmbrain | streuner, no its lpr |
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| 16:04.18 | streuner_ | rmbrain: try to install cupsys-bsd |
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| 16:05.05 | rmbrain | streuner, i just realized i did not have lpr or lpd installed! :-) did i need those? |
| 16:05.15 | jasuris | im having problems running autom4te, its trying to rename /dev/null to /dev/null.tmp |
| 16:05.23 | jasuris | anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 16:05.53 | streuner_ | rmbrain: if you some app. wants it, you will need it. |
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| 16:14.53 | dm_ | Hello. I installed hplip to access my HP printer/scanner but when I try to start it with "/etc/init.d/hplip start" it shows "starting HP lInux ... ... done" bit it isn't running (ps ax). /etc/default/hplip has "RUN_HPLIP=yes". What else could I check?? |
| 16:15.32 | rvgate | How do i make my boot process without any text scrolling down, instead using a loadscreen... a m8 of mine told me to turn it on non-verbose, but i have no idea where... any ideas? |
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| 16:17.36 | rvgate | where is the dpkg ? |
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| 16:18.18 | stew | rvgate: taking a break, use ravenbird or aptitude |
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| 16:20.03 | rvgate | hmm... ravenbird seems to be a command reference |
| 16:20.06 | Nekomagesdesu | I can't access 4 of 6 hdd's on my box they are on a controller card thats bios loaded, they were working when I had gentoo on the box, I installed freebsd and now put debian on it, I cannot fdisk nor mount 4 of the drives but all 6 shows up in dmesg |
| 16:20.17 | Nekomagesdesu | anyone with a hint ^^ |
| 16:20.20 | rvgate | oh no, nvm |
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| 16:22.16 | alder | does anyone have an idea how to install sarge/etch with dmraid on a raid1 (2xsata) with ich6r? or a howto maybe? |
| 16:22.27 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: do a lspci and try to locate the controller. |
| 16:22.40 | Nekomagesdesu | the controllers show up as an unkown promise |
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| 16:23.00 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: well, time to install a new pci-id-list |
| 16:23.09 | Nekomagesdesu | ? |
| 16:23.18 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, link or explanation please? |
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| 16:25.24 | Eclipser | ok |
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| 16:25.40 | rvgate | Seems that my kernelversion is 2.4, stable is 2.6, how would i install/upgrade the new kernel ? |
| 16:25.45 | Eclipser | someone explain me why, oh why, doesn't X (or XFCE?) follow my locales... |
| 16:25.45 | pumpkin0 | http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 16:26.17 | pumpkin0 | rvgate: apt-get update; aptiude => search for a kernel you like |
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| 16:26.31 | Marex | wow ... hi :) |
| 16:26.37 | Nekomagesdesu | thanks pumpkin0 |
| 16:26.45 | Eclipser | when I type locale in Eterm, I get en_US.UTF-8 as LANG but when I type it in real console I get fi_FI@euro, whcih is what I want |
| 16:26.56 | Nekomagesdesu | ohhh that |
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| 16:27.04 | Nekomagesdesu | no it was identified under gentoo |
| 16:27.08 | Eclipser | well actually I just want my keyboard locale to be fi_FI, I want all messages to be english :p |
| 16:27.09 | Nekomagesdesu | it's not under debian |
| 16:27.09 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: if you know which chip you have, you can try to find the right module ... |
| 16:27.28 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, currently looking at the how-to for debian kernels |
| 16:27.31 | sean | I chose the ibiblio mirror for etch because I know it's geographically close, where might I find other available mirrors? |
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| 16:27.40 | Nekomagesdesu | so not used to binary based systems >_< |
| 16:27.48 | tejing | I've got a rather odd problem: whenever I boot my machine, my x server comes up and I can't type anything. the only way in is to use the mouse to get a console, then restart kdm. |
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| 16:27.54 | sepski | !mirrors |
| 16:27.55 | badgers | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
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| 16:28.12 | sean | sepski, thanks |
| 16:28.15 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: you should not need to look at the howto. You use need the name of the module and do a "modprobe <modulename>" |
| 16:28.32 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, everythings M ? |
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| 16:28.41 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: yupp |
| 16:28.54 | Nekomagesdesu | bleh |
| 16:28.58 | tejing | I tracked it down, I think. when kdm starts the first time, for some reason the x server allocated vc2 instead of vc4 (I have 3 text vcs configured). anyone seen this issue before? |
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| 16:29.04 | laurens_ | yay! |
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| 16:29.05 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: unless we are takling about every special HW ... |
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| 16:29.22 | laurens_ | i think my drive is shitting itself.... |
| 16:29.23 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, no just a regular 20 dollar set of controller cards |
| 16:29.30 | laurens_ | ?rwS--x--x 904 1020068744 59275666 659 Jan 1 1970 cedega_5.1_i386.deb |
| 16:29.33 | lepton | tejing: interesting. you could disable the kdm startup at boot time, then start it from the console |
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| 16:29.42 | laurens_ | looks kind of strange,that file |
| 16:29.48 | rvgate | pumpkin0, it can only find kernel 2.4 when i do that |
| 16:29.48 | laurens_ | cant delete it either |
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| 16:29.55 | laurens_ | hi bartm |
| 16:30.00 | laurens_ | op kot in leuven jom? |
| 16:30.04 | pumpkin0 | rvgate: which debian are you using ? |
| 16:30.24 | tejing | lepton : I suppose that would isolate whether it was the firs time it started or if it was time related. my guess is time related though |
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| 16:30.40 | pumpkin0 | rvgate: and if you don´t have some HW that is not working ... leave the kernel alone. |
| 16:30.52 | fhffhqvb | !do rvgate |
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| 16:31.43 | rvgate | pumpkin0, sarge |
| 16:31.52 | pumpkin0 | laurens_: restart in single-mode and launch a fsck ... |
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| 16:32.27 | five0 | can anyone point me to the location of i2c-dev in a kernel config? |
| 16:32.47 | five0 | sensors-detect apparently will fail if i2c-dev isn't loaded |
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| 16:34.12 | five0 | ah, nvm. |
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| 16:34.20 | cureless | five0: -> device drivers -> ic2 support |
| 16:34.22 | pumpkin0 | rvgate: stay with 2.4 or do a distupgrade (warring: may be very painfull) |
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| 16:35.06 | pumpkin0 | is there a safe way to get libc6 2.4 in testing or unstable ? No which does not include reinstalling the whole thing ? |
| 16:35.16 | five0 | cureless: yeah, no, the problem was because i had it compiled into the kernel |
| 16:35.20 | five0 | rather than as a module |
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| 16:36.20 | itchi | What codename come after Etch ? |
| 16:36.36 | bartm | itchi: itchi would be nice :) |
| 16:37.03 | itchi | bartm: I go for it :-) |
| 16:37.34 | itchi | bartm: Bwa, it's needs to be an personage of the Toy Story |
| 16:38.18 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, would a default debian install happen to be 2.4 kernel? |
| 16:39.03 | bartm | itchi: aren't you? :) |
| 16:39.28 | itchi | bartm: no :-/ |
| 16:39.34 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: depends on the version ... sarge will default to 2.4, etch should use 2.6 ... |
| 16:39.42 | itchi | bartm: Or i could be an imposture :-) |
| 16:39.51 | fhffhqvb | !doe itchi |
| 16:40.05 | itchi | badgers: Heb ik nodig ;-) |
| 16:40.06 | badgers | itchi: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 16:40.14 | jetscreamer | i thought sarge defaulted to a 2.6 nowadays |
| 16:40.53 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, was debian 3.1 r2 net isntall disk |
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| 16:41.29 | sean | if I want kde on etch, what do I need to do |
| 16:41.37 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: should be 2.6 |
| 16:41.44 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: uname -a ? |
| 16:42.09 | cureless | sean: apt-get install kde |
| 16:42.23 | sean | cureless: that's all? |
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| 16:42.31 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, rebooting, was checking the card for burns and the cables |
| 16:42.35 | cureless | sean: what do you mean? |
| 16:42.58 | Akbar | etch felt a bit slow on the gnome 2.14 side |
| 16:42.59 | sean | cureless: I just did not think it was that easy |
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| 16:43.08 | sean | cureless: great! |
| 16:43.53 | jetscreamer | apt-get install x-window-system-core kde maybe |
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| 16:44.05 | sean | jetscreamer: okay |
| 16:44.09 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: erm .. wait. 3.1 r2 is stable, that may default to 2.4. Update to testing or unstable and more enjoy up-to-date software. |
| 16:44.36 | dmacks | Is there a script for cleaning dead-wood out of the dpkg status file? I've got 5000 packages listed there but only 1000 are actually installed. Rest just take up time every time the file is processed by dpkg:( |
| 16:44.37 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, in the debian handbook how to do that? I kinda need a 2.6 kernel for the card =^-^= |
| 16:44.48 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: if all you want is the kernel just apt-get install the 2.6 kernel |
| 16:45.13 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.13 |
| 16:45.15 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 16:45.16 | badgers | hmm... sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 16:45.36 | Nekomagesdesu | cureless, mostly tracking a problem right now with my controller cards and checking everything >_< |
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| 16:45.45 | Nekomagesdesu | checking the kernel as soon as this slow pos boots |
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| 16:46.21 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: if all you want is to upgrade the kernel, just apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 (you might need to add an initrd to your grub/lilo) |
| 16:47.03 | bartm | cureless, Nekomagesdesu: that updates the grub config automatically |
| 16:47.08 | jetscreamer | ah that's what i was gonna ask |
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| 16:47.29 | jetscreamer | how do i determine if it's the controller card or the hd w/o taking the card/hd out and replacing |
| 16:47.55 | jetscreamer | (which is the problem child/faulty device) |
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| 16:48.00 | pumpkin0 | jetscreamer: what does smart say about the HD ? |
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| 16:48.47 | jetscreamer | there are some errors but it resets the controller i think and it works again, unlike the usual when the hd borks it just doesn't work |
| 16:49.02 | jetscreamer | smart error 21, and 50 i think |
| 16:49.30 | sean | Is there any difference between ftp:// and http:// in sources.list (is either faster?) |
| 16:49.30 | pumpkin0 | jetscreamer: smart-errors a almost allways lethal. |
| 16:49.43 | jetscreamer | then there's some multiwrite_ext error or something |
| 16:49.46 | pumpkin0 | sean: use ftp:// if available |
| 16:49.54 | sean | pumpkin0: okay |
| 16:50.25 | jetscreamer | pumpkin0: yeah, it's usually the case here, but it's not acting like all the other hd's that fried out on me.. also the drive is relatively new. |
| 16:50.35 | pumpkin0 | sean: it´s less load for the server and (most of the time) faster for you. |
| 16:50.40 | jetscreamer | so it 'may' be the controller |
| 16:50.46 | jetscreamer | may be the hd |
| 16:51.06 | fhffhqvb | the controller is on the harddisk. |
| 16:51.12 | pumpkin0 | jetscreamer: launch a extended smart-test. |
| 16:51.15 | jetscreamer | i'll probabl;y just have to replace something and test |
| 16:51.40 | cureless | pumpkin0: how is ftp less load for the server? |
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| 16:52.23 | pumpkin0 | cureless: the permissions-check for http take longer. (comparing apache to proftp ...) |
| 16:53.02 | sean | pumpkin0: what about ftp-logins, those would take time too |
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| 16:53.41 | cureless | pumpkin0: hmmm, strange. I would imagine they both are practically the same, specially with caches. |
| 16:53.42 | pumpkin0 | sean: you login only once for all downloads. |
| 16:54.02 | sean | pumpkin0: okay -- that sounds good |
| 16:55.03 | pumpkin0 | cureless: if you have a caching proxy: use http. caching ftp proxies are rare... |
| 16:56.04 | cureless | pumpkin0: the OS will cache the information |
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| 16:56.36 | pumpkin0 | cureless: the DNS maybe,... but what else ? |
| 16:56.50 | cureless | pumpkin0: the OS at the server side |
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| 16:59.06 | pumpkin0 | once upon a time there was something called "compressed ext2". Does this still exisit in kernel 2.6 ? |
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| 17:02.37 | _Brandon_ | hi i have a problem with dns, if i use nslookup it works good but if i try to connect to google or anything else i get unknown host |
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| 17:02.58 | cureless | _Brandon_: does it connect if you use the ip? |
| 17:03.03 | _Brandon_ | yes |
| 17:03.08 | pumpkin0 | _Brandon_: does /etc/resolv.conf exist |
| 17:03.10 | dabreegster | _Brandon_: Could be a bug with the browser. Try another. |
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| 17:03.26 | _Brandon_ | not just browser also ping traceroute and anything else |
| 17:03.40 | Myon | check /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 17:04.15 | cureless | _Brandon_: so you can nslookup www.google.com but you can't ping it? |
| 17:04.33 | _Brandon_ | cureless: yes |
| 17:04.42 | Myon | grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 17:04.42 | Myon | hosts: files dns |
| 17:05.06 | cureless | _Brandon_: what does ping say in the first line of output? (and yes, have you modified nsswitch?) |
| 17:05.20 | cureless | are you using NIS/NIS+? |
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| 17:06.20 | Aristotelis- | how can I see whether I have enabled prefetch in winxp ? |
| 17:06.42 | _Brandon_ | cureless: ping: unknown host www.google.it |
| 17:07.02 | Myon | _Brandon_: grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 17:07.05 | _Brandon_ | cureless: and i don't have modified nsswitch and i dont use nis |
| 17:07.23 | _Brandon_ | hosts: files dns |
| 17:07.33 | cureless | _Brandon_: how many entries do you have in /etc/resolve.conf? |
| 17:07.53 | psychonate | I have been using the nvidia driver package from Nvidia's site, but I would like to use the driver from the repositories now. Is there a way in which I should remove the old driver first, or should I just simply install over it? |
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| 17:08.11 | _Brandon_ | cureless: one, i have also tryed to put another dns server |
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| 17:08.34 | psychonate | I would hate to mess things up. |
| 17:08.54 | cureless | _Brandon_: and you're not running on 2 windows on 2 different hosts are you? |
| 17:09.42 | _Brandon_ | cureless: what do you mean?:) |
| 17:09.48 | pumpkin0 | psychonate: the deinstall (if any exists) is documented by nvidia. |
| 17:10.07 | cureless | _Brandon_: just checking, sometimes people open too many xterms and ssh to other systems |
| 17:10.14 | pumpkin0 | psychonate: and depending on your xorg te free nv driver is already installed. |
| 17:10.25 | cureless | _Brandon_: what debian are you running? |
| 17:10.32 | hjubal | hi |
| 17:10.35 | _Brandon_ | cureless: debian unstable |
| 17:10.48 | psychonate | pumpkin0: I need 3d acceleration though. But anyway: I will check the nvidia documentation quickly about a deinstall. |
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| 17:11.32 | pumpkin0 | psychonate: stay with the closed-source nvidia drivers. |
| 17:11.38 | cureless | _Brandon_: open another window, run tcpdump -n, try to ping again to some other host |
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| 17:12.22 | psychonate | pumpkin0: I've used them many times, but the apparently the package from Nvidia's site doesn't work very well with my xorg install. |
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| 17:12.28 | _Brandon_ | cureless: i don't have tcpdump |
| 17:12.55 | cureless | _Brandon_: and I assume that without dns you can't install it. Are you connected here on that machine? |
| 17:12.57 | psychonate | pumpkin0: something like this: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200598 |
| 17:13.12 | psychonate | pumpkin0: hopefully I typed the URL correctly; I'm on two separate boxes |
| 17:13.18 | _Brandon_ | cureless: yes i'm connected with ssh |
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| 17:13.26 | Oyst3X | tentam mais numca conseguem =] |
| 17:13.28 | psychonate | pumpkin0: not on Ubuntu, but same problem |
| 17:13.37 | shogunx | cureless one could give him ip based urls to wget for tcpdump and libpcap |
| 17:13.49 | cureless | _Brandon_: you're connected to ssh to that machine or from that machine to somewhere else? |
| 17:13.59 | _Brandon_ | to that machine |
| 17:14.18 | pumpkin0 | psychonate: replace the ""Driver"nvidia""" with ""Driver"nv""" ... |
| 17:14.29 | cureless | _Brandon_: did you just upgrade? when did things start failing? |
| 17:14.40 | psychonate | pumpkin0: er, what are you talking about? |
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| 17:15.01 | psychonate | pumpkin0: I found the uninstall option. |
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| 17:16.32 | _Brandon_ | cureless: well it's my friend's computer, he says that this morning he got this problem |
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| 17:17.09 | psychonate | What's the difference between the legacy and non-legacy versions of the nvidia driver? |
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| 17:17.24 | _Brandon_ | psychonate: legacy it's old |
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| 17:17.38 | cureless | _Brandon_: why are you troubleshooting and not him? |
| 17:17.49 | bekhazi | Is Gnome more CPU effective? (more than KDE) |
| 17:18.11 | cureless | bekhazi: depends on configuration (you can make it either way) |
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| 17:19.16 | Vasistha | I'm trying to figure out the workaround so that I don't have to use xhost ... do I need to have sshd running?? |
| 17:19.25 | _Brandon_ | cureless: because i know linux better |
| 17:19.33 | cureless | _Brandon_: so what is he doing with unstable? |
| 17:19.44 | cureless | _Brandon_: anyway, what is the version of dnsutils? |
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| 17:20.14 | _Brandon_ | cureless: 1:9.3.2-2 |
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| 17:20.26 | _Brandon_ | cureless: anyway i have installed tcpdump |
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| 17:22.24 | cureless | _Brandon_: ok, you need 2 windows, on to run the ping the other for the tcpdump. You might want to do something like: tcpdump -n not port 22 |
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| 17:25.03 | avar | what was that bot keyword to get a list of non-free mplayer packages? |
| 17:25.10 | avar | or free, either will do |
| 17:25.37 | _Brandon_ | cureless: ok it doesn't show anything when i do ping |
| 17:25.46 | orgw | !non-free |
| 17:25.46 | badgers | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or ... |
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| 17:25.53 | cureless | _Brandon_: and how about the nslookup? |
| 17:26.17 | avar | !mplayer |
| 17:26.17 | badgers | it has been said that mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, ... |
| 17:26.39 | _Brandon_ | cureless: 21:26:07.172595 IP 192.168.0.102.32771 > 80.20.6.36.53: 49221+ A? debian.org. (28) |
| 17:26.45 | _Brandon_ | cureless: 21:26:07.238336 IP 80.20.6.36.53 > 192.168.0.102.32771: 49221 1/0/0 A 192.25.206.10 (44) |
| 17:26.56 | cureless | _Brandon_: ok, but ping didn't get that |
| 17:28.57 | cureless | _Brandon_: what version of libc6 do you have there? |
| 17:29.21 | avar | orgw: uh, don't really care:) |
| 17:29.23 | _Brandon_ | cureless: 2.3.6-15 |
| 17:29.54 | orgw | that was for me |
| 17:29.55 | orgw | :) |
| 17:30.05 | avar | wee! |
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| 17:32.11 | _Brandon_ | cureless: i've found a sit0 interface with ifconfig for ipv6 i think and eth0 also have an ipv6 address and with netstat the ssh connection is on ipv6 |
| 17:32.23 | vronsky | anybody know of a tag reading audio player in stable that can play m4a/aac? |
| 17:32.33 | vronsky | xmms works of course but it is not ideal. |
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| 17:34.05 | psychonate | I'm sad. Whence has 'glxgears' gone? :( |
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| 17:34.35 | stew | psychonate: mesa-utils |
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| 17:34.48 | psychonate | stew: I tried that one. I think it only works with DRI |
| 17:35.03 | psychonate | stew: (It told me I was missing DRI on my display anyway) |
| 17:35.12 | stew | no idea |
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| 17:35.19 | psychonate | Oh well. |
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| 17:35.25 | psychonate | Casualty of progress I suppose. |
| 17:35.51 | cureless | _Brandon_: ping ftp.freebsd.org |
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| 17:36.15 | lancelot24 | òldsck |
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| 17:36.38 | _Brandon_ | cureless: it works |
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| 17:36.58 | cureless | _Brandon_: so you are going over ipv6 |
| 17:37.12 | cureless | _Brandon_: what did tcpdump show you? |
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| 17:38.35 | _Brandon_ | cureless: lol wrong window this time, i can't ping |
| 17:38.55 | cureless | never mind then |
| 17:39.13 | cureless | _Brandon_: do you get the same ping error? |
| 17:39.18 | _Brandon_ | cureless: yes |
| 17:39.30 | Aristotelis- | I want to speak about religion in this server |
| 17:39.37 | cureless | ok, run this, what do you get near the end: strace ping -c 1 www.google.com 2>&1 | grep "= -1" |
| 17:40.04 | amphi | Aristotelis-: #politics ;) |
| 17:40.04 | abrotman | there is #politics .. i'm not aware of a #religion |
| 17:40.22 | _Brandon_ | cureless: access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 17:40.37 | cureless | before that |
| 17:40.51 | shogunx | #startyourownreligionintributetotimothyleary |
| 17:40.56 | _Brandon_ | cureless: connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/nscd/socket"}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
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| 17:41.34 | Nekomagesdesu | cureless, installed the 2.6 kernel and it just reboots nonstop right after grub >_> |
| 17:41.36 | sherdog | I got a promise tx2+ controller. Is it very hard to install debian with it? |
| 17:41.50 | cureless | _Brandon_: do you have nscd installed? |
| 17:42.55 | _Brandon_ | cureless: just installed now it works:) |
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| 17:43.45 | _Brandon_ | cureless: thanks for your help |
| 17:43.46 | cureless | one goal for the forces of good will, helping people save themselves from running unstable |
| 17:44.19 | cureless | _Brandon_: you (he?) should be using nscd unless he needs to. Unconfigure and remove it later. |
| 17:44.31 | cureless | _Brandon_: I meant shouldn't |
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| 17:45.08 | _Brandon_ | cureless: so what i should use? |
| 17:45.09 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: what do you mean? |
| 17:45.25 | cureless | _Brandon_: nothing, nscd should be needed. But it's somehow configured to be used. |
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| 17:45.31 | cureless | shouldn't** |
| 17:45.40 | cureless | today I can't seem to write negatives very well |
| 17:45.42 | Nekomagesdesu | cureless, once I select 2.6.x in grub it starts to load the image and then reboots before getting to 1% |
| 17:46.00 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: before getting to 1% of loading the image?? |
| 17:46.01 | Nekomagesdesu | I currently rebooted back to the 2.4 kernel |
| 17:46.03 | jelly | is there something list apt-get --print-uris for aptitude command line? |
| 17:46.11 | jelly | s/list/like/ |
| 17:46.16 | Nekomagesdesu | the boot image >_> |
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| 17:46.38 | Nekomagesdesu | the one that usually flashes by to fast to see right after the boot loader |
| 17:46.53 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: strange. |
| 17:47.07 | Rexxars | I'm having problems getting the debian testing release netinstaller working, wget fails to download, just gives me "Unknown server error". Any ideas? |
| 17:47.35 | abrotman | bad dns? |
| 17:47.40 | sherdog | does anyone have any experience with promise controllers and debian? |
| 17:47.44 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu = I'm a mage's cat? |
| 17:47.55 | Nekomagesdesu | yes |
| 17:48.08 | Nekomagesdesu | first person in 7 months to get it right ^^ |
| 17:48.14 | abrotman | sherdog: wouldn't it be easier to just try it? |
| 17:48.19 | Rexxars | I've set up the IP for the nameserver properly, not sure what else I can do :/ |
| 17:48.26 | Nekomagesdesu | I don't like the japanese word for mages so I use the english one |
| 17:48.28 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: but mage's is not japanese, right? |
| 17:48.36 | Nekomagesdesu | yeah |
| 17:48.48 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: so it would be more like nekomagesnodesu |
| 17:48.58 | abrotman | Rexxars: are you install in the installer? or logged in as root ? |
| 17:49.03 | cureless | I mean, nekomagenodesu |
| 17:49.05 | Nekomagesdesu | mahoutsukai |
| 17:49.21 | Nekomagesdesu | oi my japanese is bad >_< |
| 17:49.41 | Nekomagesdesu | I just watch enough anime it gets absorbed into my brain |
| 17:49.43 | Rexxars | abrotman: install |
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| 17:49.50 | sherdog | abrotman actually no.. :) I will have to delete alot of stuff. Worth it if it works, but not if it is to complicated and I ail |
| 17:49.52 | sherdog | fail* |
| 17:49.55 | Nekomagesdesu | and right now this 2.4 kernel is preventing me from getting at my anime :( |
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| 17:49.59 | cureless | I don't really know japanese |
| 17:50.20 | Nekomagesdesu | cureless wonderful program called StarDict |
| 17:50.34 | Nekomagesdesu | can get the japanese <-> english modules for it |
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| 17:50.47 | Nekomagesdesu | not sure if debian has it in it's portage |
| 17:51.16 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: right now I'm running kannasaver (hiragana screensaver) to see if I learn some characters. |
| 17:51.50 | Nekomagesdesu | cureless I'm to lazy to learn it :/ besides my bf thinks I like the japanese to much anyway |
| 17:52.42 | cureless | I just started japanese class so I need to learn it at some point. The problem I have is that with the dual monitors the damn character is in the middle of the 2 screens, so I don't really get a good sense on how it looks. |
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| 17:54.51 | Nekomagesdesu | ohhhhh I think I see why the kernel didn't work |
| 17:54.58 | Nekomagesdesu | gave me the info for a 686 cpu ^^ |
| 17:55.07 | Nekomagesdesu | this is an old k6-2 500 |
| 17:55.26 | cureless | Nekomagesdesu: I guess I should have said try the 386 first |
| 17:55.30 | abrotman | Rexxars: is your NIC working at all ? |
| 17:55.36 | Nekomagesdesu | lol no worries ^^ |
| 17:55.44 | Nekomagesdesu | k6-2 is the worst cpu to do linux with |
| 17:55.53 | abrotman | sherdog: eh .. you can try to browse through install reports ... |
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| 17:56.02 | cureless | nahh, I had one of those for a long while .. a long time back |
| 17:56.18 | sherdog | abrotman I failed to find any.. |
| 17:56.22 | mc__ | Nekomagesdesu, why? |
| 17:56.25 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: I would bet a 80286 would be worse ;) |
| 17:56.26 | abrotman | sherdog: you failed to find install reports? |
| 17:56.33 | Rexxars | abrotman: seems like the resolving fails, it works if I specify an IP |
| 17:56.34 | Nekomagesdesu | lol |
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| 17:56.45 | Nekomagesdesu | mc__, k6-2 is actually a mismodel |
| 17:56.48 | mc__ | Nekomagesdesu, 4 month ago my machine was a K6-2 300 mhz |
| 17:56.52 | sherdog | abrotman dude, Im no geek! :) |
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| 17:57.01 | Nekomagesdesu | there are I think 8 k6-2's ? and they are all different models under cpuinfo |
| 17:57.08 | mc__ | Nekomagesdesu, it ran without any problems |
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| 17:57.31 | abrotman | sherdog: model number of the card from lspci? |
| 17:57.39 | Nekomagesdesu | mc__, try doing a custome compile with something like gentoo on a k6-2 not properly setup |
| 17:57.52 | Nekomagesdesu | your safe as long as you sta pretty generic |
| 17:57.56 | abrotman | you're |
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| 17:58.02 | sherdog | exactly abrotman, I dont know what that means.. :) |
| 17:58.09 | abrotman | sherdog: do you ahve linux on the box now? |
| 17:58.10 | mc__ | Nekomagesdesu, i used a self-compiled freeBSD also on it |
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| 17:58.36 | sherdog | No, Im on my laptop with windoze.. |
| 17:58.37 | Nekomagesdesu | mc__, I've gotten slack, ubuntu, gentoo, freebsd and now debian to run on it |
| 17:58.40 | cureless | building world on a 386-sx took me about a week or so |
| 17:58.46 | sherdog | abrotman |
| 17:58.51 | abrotman | sherdog: what kind of card? promise tx? |
| 17:58.58 | sherdog | tx2+ |
| 17:59.08 | sherdog | with sata and ordinary ide |
| 17:59.39 | stoned | hi |
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| 18:00.31 | abrotman | sherdog: it seems to be working .. just use the `linux26` option when you install |
| 18:00.34 | abrotman | sherdog: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=239190 |
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| 18:01.40 | sherdog | abrotman thank u |
| 18:01.48 | Stork | what's the easiest and quickest way to update mysql server :| ? running debian sarge |
| 18:01.56 | raf256 | how to stop freaking CUPS |
| 18:02.02 | raf256 | from pinging my LAN on port 631 all the time |
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| 18:02.12 | raf256 | I need a local printer, not a freaking LAN scanner god damnit |
| 18:02.18 | stew | Stork: what version do you currently have installed? |
| 18:02.35 | stew | Stork: actually doesn't matter the answer would be the same, "apt-get install mysql-server-4.1" |
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| 18:02.57 | Stork | stew, can't i get version 5.0? |
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| 18:03.22 | stew | Stork: its not in sarge, possibly you could get it from backports, /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 18:03.41 | clif4d | raf256: dpkg-regonfigure cupsys IIRC and say no to broadcasts |
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| 18:04.50 | sgeigerbot | Help: I'm having a horrible time getting php to work again after a fiasco. Can someone help. |
| 18:04.57 | sgeigerbot | I've uncommented php in the config file. |
| 18:05.01 | sgeigerbot | restarted a thousand time.s |
| 18:05.52 | dmacks | Are the packages in the dpkg "status" file in any particular order? I want to hand-edit it, but not break anything. |
| 18:06.00 | sgeigerbot | I have php4-mysql installed. Here's my error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in... |
| 18:06.20 | stew | sgeigerbot: make sure you have "extension=mysql.so" in /etc/apache/php.ini |
| 18:06.32 | stew | sgeigerbot: no, make that /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 18:06.48 | stew | sgeigerbot: or possibly /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini depending on what version of apache |
| 18:06.55 | stew | dmacks: why do you need to edit the status file? |
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| 18:07.18 | abrotman | sherdog: don't come after me if it doesn't work though :) |
| 18:07.41 | dmacks | stew: Housecleaning. I have >4000 packages listed in it, of which only ~1000 are not Status:purge. |
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| 18:07.51 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: how many /etc/php* directories are there? |
| 18:07.57 | sherdog | abrotman hehe, I wont mate.. And I apreciate your help.. :) |
| 18:08.23 | dmacks | May as well save dpkg (and some of my own scripts that read that file) 75% processing time. |
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| 18:08.47 | raf256 | clif4d: that worked, thanks |
| 18:08.59 | clif4d | dmacks: can't you just grep all lines not containing Status:purge and pipe it to a new dpkg status file? |
| 18:09.16 | clif4d | raf256: :) |
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| 18:09.36 | dmacks | clif4d: Yeah. That's why I'm asking about ordering. (assuming s/lines/package blocks/) |
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| 18:10.16 | clif4d | dmacks: but if you only remove some lines, the ordering shouldn't be changed, or am I missing something? |
| 18:11.08 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: php4 phpmyadmin phpwiki |
| 18:11.24 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: under php4 .. how many directories? |
| 18:11.33 | dmacks | Right. The ordering wouldn't be changed. That's why I'm asking whether ordering matters *at all*. Like "is it ordered by some hashing function?" |
| 18:11.52 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: apache apache2 cgi cli |
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| 18:12.10 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: under apache2 directory: RCS php.ini |
| 18:12.20 | dmacks | (all I know is it's neither alphabetical nor chronological) |
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| 18:12.27 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: in that php.ini ... grep mysql php.ini |
| 18:12.32 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I swear I have everything installed. I can even do "sudo a2enmod php4" |
| 18:12.43 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ...but apache2 doesn't seem to be laoding php4 |
| 18:12.48 | g8616c6f | Does anyone have a list of which programs shouldn't be compiled with apt-build? I've tried googling to no avail. |
| 18:12.56 | clif4d | dmacks: okay, well sorry, can't help with that |
| 18:13.01 | abrotman | it's loading PHP or you wouldn't get the error about mysql_connect being a bad function |
| 18:13.14 | dmacks | thx anyway:) |
| 18:13.24 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: /join #paste |
| 18:13.30 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: #flood ? |
| 18:13.50 | b1z__ | is there a way to emulate a browser's javascript interpretor? e.g. to be able to use simple java scripts from within websites on the console and see their output? all the interpreters i've tried are lagging e.g. the document.* stuff and so on so it can't be executed |
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| 18:14.22 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: it's still commented .. uncomment it |
| 18:16.20 | Stork | how do i install rainbowcrack on debian? it wont compile from the source |
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| 18:17.56 | fhffhqvb | !qotd0 |
| 18:17.56 | badgers | <caphuso> linagee: so, now would be a good time to start reading the fucking manual before i start fucking you |
| 18:18.03 | b1z__ | expecially i would like to see the plain source of these cryptic javascripts which decrypt themselves while getting executed, write their plain source using document.write and then execute the written plain code.. however the routines to decrypt the code are written there so any idea howto modify such a script to just print out to stdout instead of document.write? |
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| 18:19.30 | Nekomagesdesu | still can't access the hdds :( |
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| 18:24.59 | jones | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.03 | jones | how do i fix this? |
| 18:25.31 | clif4d | jones: running etch or unstable? |
| 18:26.06 | jones | stable |
| 18:26.06 | jones | cabinet:/etc/samba# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:26.06 | jones | 3.1 |
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| 18:26.34 | stew | jones: put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libc6 samba-common smbclient" into a pastebin |
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| 18:27.24 | Serinity | Damn, we just had such a sotrm.... |
| 18:27.29 | clif4d | jones: do you have any non officiel sources added? since samba-common in stable is 3.0.14a-3sarge1, so you must have gotten that 3.0.14a-6 from somewhere else |
| 18:27.29 | Serinity | storm* |
| 18:27.43 | jones | clif4d no. |
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| 18:28.24 | jones | i think this server was installed as sarge when sarge was unstable |
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| 18:28.42 | stew | jones: sarge was never unstable, it was testing however |
| 18:28.51 | jones | well ok then testing. sorry |
| 18:29.03 | stew | jones: 3.0.14a-6 was never in sarge |
| 18:29.10 | clif4d | jones: check your sources.list and make sure it points to sarge or stable, and then do the apt-cache thing |
| 18:29.14 | godmachine81 | can someone tell me what script I need to edit to add a command to execute when a certain WM starts ? I have blackbox and i want bbkeys to run when blackbox starts.. I use GDM to start it |
| 18:29.20 | mc__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.31 | Serinity | lol |
| 18:29.38 | abrotman | godmachine81: ~/.xsession probably |
| 18:29.40 | nwonknu | lol |
| 18:29.42 | Serinity | well |
| 18:30.00 | Serinity | mc__, you mean 99% of the world pop ? |
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| 18:30.17 | jelly | is there an european word for that? |
| 18:30.25 | mc__ | Serinity, yes of course |
| 18:30.27 | sean | !nvidia |
| 18:30.27 | badgers | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 18:30.29 | godmachine81 | i didnt have a ~/.xsession file so i created one and just added a line that said " bbkeys &" |
| 18:30.34 | Serinity | jelly, Microsoft |
| 18:30.37 | godmachine81 | that still didnt work though |
| 18:31.16 | sean | !nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 18:31.17 | badgers | See http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for help with drivers for NVIDIA graphics cards |
| 18:31.27 | Serinity | Well, no quite, actually they call this, MCSE |
| 18:31.39 | deadcat | goddamn. i dont know if its the slow ass 600mb hdd or the nslu2, libapache-gallery-perl is in pain trying to gen the thumbnails (= |
| 18:31.59 | jones | pastebin is taking forever |
| 18:32.09 | godmachine81 | use paste.debian.net |
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| 18:32.49 | jones | stew clif4d http://pastebin.com/727782 |
| 18:34.08 | clif4d | damn pastebin is slow.. |
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| 18:35.05 | Nekomagesdesu | yeah it is :/ |
| 18:35.15 | Nekomagesdesu | pasting my error in it since I'm tired of repeating myself ^^ |
| 18:35.16 | godmachine81 | abrotman, ~/.xsession is not the file that i would edit for bbkeys. that file didnt exist, i created it and it didnt work when i added a line for bbkeys.. xinitrc is not in the home directory either. do you know what else to do to get bbkeys to autoload when blackbox is started from gdm? |
| 18:35.48 | jones | stew clif4d http://paste.debian.net/7971 thx godmachine81 |
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| 18:35.57 | stew | jones: you are running a mixed stable/testing system which isnt' supported, you need to either finish upgrading to testing or re-install stable |
| 18:36.03 | godmachine81 | np jones |
| 18:36.33 | abrotman | godmachine81: .xinitrc ? |
| 18:36.49 | jones | stew how can you tell? |
| 18:36.56 | godmachine81 | yes xinitrc |
| 18:36.57 | stew | jones: your libc6 version |
| 18:37.14 | godmachine81 | ive read on a few pages that xinitrc can be edited for startup scripts |
| 18:37.21 | jones | stew: libc6 is from testing? |
| 18:37.27 | stew | jones: its an old version from etch |
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| 18:37.35 | godmachine81 | and ive also tried messing with blackbox.desktop |
| 18:37.40 | godmachine81 | that dont work either |
| 18:37.49 | stew | jones: sarge is 2.3.2 etch used to be 2.3.5 (which you have) and now is on 2.3.6 |
| 18:38.05 | jones | crappy. |
| 18:38.07 | clif4d | jones: also check your samba-common "installed 3.0.14a-6 ftp.egr.msu 3.0.14a-3sarge1 |
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| 18:39.33 | Zvpun | how can I combine columns from different files into one file? How can I reverse the usage of cut? |
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| 18:39.48 | heiner | Zvpun: paste(1) |
| 18:39.56 | Nekomagesdesu | having a hdd mounting issue details -> http://pastebin.com/727790 |
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| 18:41.13 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: waiting for pastebin.com... :) |
| 18:41.14 | Zvpun | heiner: thanks a lot! |
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| 18:41.39 | godmachine81 | Nekomagesdesu, if you would re-paste at paste.debian.net it is a lot faster |
| 18:41.45 | Nekomagesdesu | ok |
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| 18:42.02 | blondie | pastebin b0rk |
| 18:42.25 | godmachine81 | pastebin b0rk??? |
| 18:42.32 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: has it ever been working? |
| 18:42.51 | Nekomagesdesu | http://paste.debian.net/7974 |
| 18:42.53 | Nekomagesdesu | yes |
| 18:42.58 | Nekomagesdesu | when I was running gentoo ^^ |
| 18:43.15 | Nekomagesdesu | but it's a slow machine so I tried to move away from compiling |
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| 18:43.34 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: same kernel as you're running now? |
| 18:43.56 | Nekomagesdesu | it ran on kernels 2.6.2 through 2.6.12 was when it had gentoo |
| 18:45.07 | Nekomagesdesu | the hdd's show up under dmesg, and they show up in the cards boot bios |
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| 18:45.33 | Nekomagesdesu | it's just only accessing one card after debian is booted for some reason, the other 4 hdd's are on the next pci slot |
| 18:46.24 | sean | I have a ubuntu install on another parttition, but grub didn't see it, how do I boot from it? |
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| 18:47.38 | Coweater | sean: grub doesn't do any looking for it, add it yourself |
| 18:47.43 | pumpkin0 | sean: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add uduntu by hand |
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| 18:47.49 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: sorry, don't seem to do be able to find any useful help |
| 18:48.01 | Nekomagesdesu | yeah :/ so don't want to go back to compileing on it |
| 18:48.06 | sean | pumpkin0: okay -- |
| 18:48.12 | outlaw84 | Does anyone of you know of any sites where you can get images that are free to use? |
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| 18:48.29 | pumpkin0 | outlaw84: images of what ? |
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| 18:48.44 | fhffhqvb | pumpkin0: beavers |
| 18:48.46 | b1rken | Could someone help me? Just installed Debian on a couputer here, but i cant get X running :S |
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| 18:49.07 | clif4d | outlaw84: check creative common licenced pictures (IIRC there is a search engine for pictures with various degrees of freedom) |
| 18:49.09 | outlaw84 | pumpkin0: lots of stuff :) I am looking for somekind of Image arkive |
| 18:49.12 | sean | pumpkin0: is there a man page for that, or a reference I could read |
| 18:49.30 | clif4d | sean: info grub |
| 18:49.38 | sean | clif4d: thx |
| 18:49.45 | pumpkin0 | sean: read the file that is there and copy one entry ... |
| 18:50.04 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: what happens if you type "startx" ? |
| 18:50.08 | aredhel | outlaw84, http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=beavers&l=cc |
| 18:50.12 | clif4d | sean: or check /boot/grub/menu.lst and you should probably just change hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) or something like that |
| 18:50.37 | pumpkin0 | sean: and change the name of the kernel too. |
| 18:50.45 | b1rken | I get a fatal server error. Failed to initialize core devices :S |
| 18:51.24 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: looks like you don´t have a mouse or gfx or keyboard. which debian ? |
| 18:51.45 | b1rken | I dont remember. Is there a command to find out in debian? |
| 18:51.48 | outlaw84 | aredhel: thanks for the link |
| 18:52.04 | b1rken | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 says it when i logout |
| 18:52.34 | MatBoy | b1rken, uname -a :) |
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| 18:52.36 | blondie | look in sources.list |
| 18:52.39 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: OK. can you upload the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere ? and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:52.41 | MatBoy | cat /proc/version |
| 18:53.04 | blondie | MatBoy: that's the kernel not the debian version o.o |
| 18:53.16 | Ronin | MatBoy: try cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:53.22 | b1rken | Linux b1rken 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:53.22 | MatBoy | blondie, but you versino is most of the time printed also |
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| 18:54.18 | MatBoy | damn, redhat has a cehckOSversion in /proc |
| 18:54.47 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: if you cannot upload these files: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for anything starting with (EE) |
| 18:55.09 | b1rken | i dont have the xorg.config, but i have a file named XF86Config-4 ?:S |
| 18:55.45 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: urgh... ok, so your debian copy is a bit older. same thing. |
| 18:55.53 | stew | b1rken: what kind of mouse do you have? usb? ps2? touchpad? |
| 18:56.02 | b1rken | ps2 |
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| 18:56.12 | stew | b1rken: and which device did you choose in the setup? /dev/input/mice? /dev/psaux? |
| 18:56.14 | amphi | b1rken: stable has xfree86, not xorg |
| 18:56.16 | b1rken | Dexxa Optical PS2 |
| 18:56.26 | b1rken | dev/input/mice i think |
| 18:56.36 | ladder | is there any way in vi to restore last save ? |
| 18:56.38 | stew | b1rken: try "modprobe psmouse" "modprobe mousedev" and try x again |
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| 18:56.55 | orangey | hey all! |
| 18:56.57 | stew | b1rken: if that works, put "psmouse" and "mousedev" into /etc/modules |
| 18:57.10 | orangey | I'm looking for a way to influence the order in which modules load up (hopefully as a non-hack, though). |
| 18:57.10 | blondie | hello orangewy worangey |
| 18:57.12 | orangey | Any ideas? |
| 18:57.21 | orangey | hello blondie blondie |
| 18:57.39 | pumpkin0 | orangey: edit /etc/modules |
| 18:57.46 | fhffhqvb | !eat stew |
| 18:58.01 | blondie | !eat glue |
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| 18:58.22 | b1rken | the "psmouse" was there, and i added "mousedev", but it did not work:S |
| 18:58.28 | MatBoy | !cow |
| 18:58.28 | badgers | i heard cow is a Turing complete language at http://www.bigzaphod.org/cow/, or http://www.nichtlustig.de/toondb/050529.html, or the apt-get easter egg which says moo |
| 18:58.39 | MatBoy | !moo |
| 18:58.40 | badgers | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 18:58.52 | stew | b1rken: you ran "modprobe mousedev"? |
| 18:59.02 | MatBoy | I love that line :D |
| 18:59.19 | cap10morgan | In a source package, in debian/rules, what is the proper target to install a udev .rules file in? |
| 18:59.19 | orangey | Pumpkin: The first soundcard, though, is being loaded by hal, I think.. it's USB |
| 18:59.20 | hackmiester | MatBoy: but it's wrong, it means apt-get install moo :( |
| 18:59.22 | b1rken | I edited the modules in /dev/, and added "mousedev" |
| 18:59.43 | cap10morgan | Is it OK to do that in binary-arch? |
| 18:59.45 | b1rken | how do i run "mouseprobe mousedev" ? |
| 18:59.52 | MatBoy | hackmiester, what is wrong about it ? |
| 19:00.04 | fhffhqvb | in soviet russia, mouse probes you |
| 19:00.05 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: modprobe, not mouseprobe.... |
| 19:00.06 | hackmiester | MatBoy: apt-get moo won't get you moo, apt-get install moo will :) |
| 19:00.21 | MatBoy | ow that ! damn, change it :D |
| 19:00.25 | blondie | mew is better than moo |
| 19:00.28 | hackmiester | fhffhqvb: Roses are red, violets are blue, in soviet Russia, poems write you! |
| 19:00.33 | blondie | (because cats are cuter than cows) |
| 19:00.38 | stew | hackmiester: no, apt-get moo, not apt-get install moo |
| 19:00.52 | b1rken | when i wrote "modprobe mousedev" it said mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice |
| 19:00.55 | hackmiester | stew: OH, you want the EGG, not the app! |
| 19:00.58 | hackmiester | my bad, MatBoy |
| 19:01.00 | MatBoy | what th hack is moo btw ? |
| 19:01.04 | stew | b1rken: now try x again |
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| 19:01.15 | b1rken | x as in startx? |
| 19:01.20 | hackmiester | MatBoy: :( |
| 19:01.20 | stew | b1rken: yes |
| 19:01.28 | MatBoy | nah ok than ! |
| 19:01.31 | MatBoy | !beer hackmiester |
| 19:01.33 | hackmiester | the moo app is a nickname for cowsay |
| 19:01.37 | hackmiester | :D |
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| 19:02.00 | b1rken | now it worked, but the wallpaper is gray. and the mouse is not responding |
| 19:02.09 | threw | hello ! |
| 19:02.48 | stew | b1rken: hit ctrl-alt-bkspace to exit. 'modprobe psmouse' if you haven't already |
| 19:02.55 | threw | is anyone know how tu install by apt-get (or smthing like this) a previous version of a software ? eg i have Xorg7 |
| 19:02.59 | threw | ops |
| 19:03.12 | stew | b1rken: did you install a window manager? which? or do you wish to be using gnome/kde or what? |
| 19:03.14 | threw | *.0 and i would have xorg 6.9 please ? |
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| 19:03.25 | clif4d | threw: man aptitude... you can use = for a specific version, og /stable fx |
| 19:03.30 | pumpkin0 | threw: read "man apt-get" and think about version ... |
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| 19:03.40 | b1rken | i installed fluxbox, and it said i needed to run x, that`s when this problem came |
| 19:03.46 | b1rken | Im completely new with linux |
| 19:03.55 | stew | threw: why do you want 6.9 instead of 7? |
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| 19:04.05 | b1rken | modprobe: Can't locate module psmouse |
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| 19:04.21 | b1rken | that came when i ran modprobe psmouse |
| 19:04.41 | stew | b1rken: try startfluxbox instead of startx |
| 19:04.46 | stew | b1rken: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 19:05.00 | b1rken | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:05.10 | b1rken | /root/.fluxbox/startup: line 12: 2592 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/bsetroot -solid black |
| 19:05.10 | b1rken | Error: Can not connect to X server. |
| 19:05.10 | b1rken | Make sure you started X before you start Fluxbox. |
| 19:05.17 | b1rken | That came when i ran startfluxbox |
| 19:05.18 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: i still think a look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /var/log/Xfree* ... would be best. |
| 19:05.22 | Ronin | x is installed? |
| 19:05.40 | b1rken | think so |
| 19:05.49 | stew | b1rken: run: echo "startfluxbox" >> ~/.xsession |
| 19:05.51 | ladder | how to find words with big letters in text file ? |
| 19:05.53 | stew | b1rken: then try startx again |
| 19:06.01 | Ronin | big letters? heh |
| 19:06.05 | stew | ladder: what do you mean? uppercase? |
| 19:06.13 | ladder | stew: yeah :) |
| 19:06.16 | clif4d | ladder: which editor? |
| 19:06.25 | ladder | vi ... |
| 19:06.34 | ladder | maybe with grep ? |
| 19:06.34 | clif4d | ladder: you could just use sed and a regex that matches uppercase |
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| 19:06.45 | b1rken | when i did that stew, it started like last time, but this time with an black wallpaper :P |
| 19:06.47 | clif4d | or grep with the same regexp |
| 19:07.05 | ladder | but what regexp ? :) |
| 19:07.11 | stew | ladder: you mean words that are all uppercase? or just containing at least one uppercase? |
| 19:07.18 | b1rken | pumpkin0: i really down know how to transfer the log and config from the server to my computer. But you could have a look at it yourself i you want to :) |
| 19:07.27 | ladder | stew: the second case |
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| 19:07.41 | stew | grep "[A-Z]" |
| 19:07.45 | clif4d | ladder something like grep "file" -e [A-Z] should work, though not elegant |
| 19:07.58 | ladder | thanks guys |
| 19:08.00 | threw | stew: in order to use xgl/compiz :) |
| 19:08.10 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: ? and how should i log into that thing ? |
| 19:08.34 | b1rken | ssh to it with root and password, pm me if you would like to. |
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| 19:08.58 | threw | clif4d: i must be blind, i didnt found anything about package version on manpage of aptitude, besides "-t" option. but I dont want to set "stable" or testing" i just want to set the number of the version of xorg. |
| 19:09.33 | pumpkin0 | threw: it´s in man apt-get not man aptitude. |
| 19:09.54 | clif4d | threw: in the start, under install, it says "append "=<version>" to the package name |
| 19:09.54 | stew | its not in either |
| 19:10.21 | clif4d | stew: it is in aptitude's man page, at least in etch |
| 19:10.27 | b1rken | Check dcc chat pumpkin0 |
| 19:10.57 | stew | clif4d: oh it is in aptitude, pardon me |
| 19:10.58 | threw | pumkin0: i dont see either in apt-get... i really must be blind ! |
| 19:11.15 | Silent_al | .ח #בפפ |
| 19:11.20 | threw | clif4d: i really dont see this... ! |
| 19:11.28 | stew | threw: apt-get install package=version ; its not likely to work however, 6.9 is not likely to still be in the pools, /msg dpkg sdn |
| 19:11.36 | clif4d | threw: are you running stable or testing/unstable? |
| 19:11.46 | stew | threw: err /msg aptitude sdn |
| 19:11.50 | pumpkin0 | threw: line 89 ff. |
| 19:12.28 | threw | clif4d: unstable |
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| 19:13.10 | clif4d | threw: well then it's there ;) as pumpkin0 said, line 89 (or 86) something like that |
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| 19:13.39 | clif4d | threw: sorry, not that line, earlier than that line, under install |
| 19:13.45 | threw | pumpkin0: Yoohoo ! i see it in line 89 :p |
| 19:13.53 | threw | :) |
| 19:14.19 | rabautz | Hi, i'd like to make an ssh-tunnel in a skript and use it. When i send the "ssh -L" to background the tunnel isn't usable anymore. Any idea how to solve this? |
| 19:14.30 | clif4d | threw: isn't that the desciption of package= which just holds a package? |
| 19:14.44 | clif4d | rabautz: how to you send it to the background? |
| 19:15.11 | rabautz | clif4d: "&" |
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| 19:15.39 | clif4d | rabautz: no clue then |
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| 19:16.59 | threw | clif4d: heuh.... what do you mean by "which just holds a package" ? (my english is not very good :p ) |
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| 19:17.53 | threw | erf...is anyone know how to get the list of availible version for a package ? apt-get cant found 6.9 version of xorg.... |
| 19:18.03 | kristalino | hi, i got a /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 19:18.04 | kristalino | error: 'Can't create UNIX socket (97)' , when i start mysql ... Any ideas ? |
| 19:18.06 | clif4d | threw: if you just write "aptitude install <package>=" then the package will be put on hold (aka not upgraded with upgrade/dist-upgrade |
| 19:18.17 | nwonknu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.54 | rabautz | threw: "apt-show-versions"? (i don't know, but would make sense ^^) |
| 19:19.47 | threw | clif4d: ok :) |
| 19:19.55 | threw | rabautz: erf :p |
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| 19:20.51 | norbert_ | hi all, quick question... to apt-get remove alsa... is that command enough? |
| 19:20.52 | threw | erf: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xorg/ does this mean that i cant get xorg 6.9 ? |
| 19:20.54 | stew | threw: yes, 6.9 is no longer in debian ; /msg aptitude sdn |
| 19:21.20 | itchi | norbert_: Depend if you need the --purge to |
| 19:21.21 | threw | stew: ok :) |
| 19:21.31 | clif4d | threw: but why do you want 6.9 anyway?= |
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| 19:22.03 | signuts | Hey folks, I just installed this disgusting mono app. Now I have like 33 deps that are not needed (after I removed the application) |
| 19:22.04 | threw | clif4d: i want to try to install xgl/compiz and it seems that dont really work fine with xorg 7.0.. |
| 19:22.09 | signuts | how do I get rid of these buggers? |
| 19:22.10 | norbert_ | itchi: can you please explain...? |
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| 19:22.42 | itchi | norbert_: apt-get --purge remove alsa... If you want to purge the config files |
| 19:22.56 | clif4d | signuts: deborphan might help you, otherwise use aptitude to install packages in the future, since it removes installed dependencies as well if they are no longer needed |
| 19:22.59 | dooglus | signuts: try debfoster. it'll ask you a bunch of questions first time you run it, but it'll remember your answers for the next time |
| 19:24.14 | Nekomagesdesu | ok uninstalling one of the kernels didn't remove it from grub >_> |
| 19:24.20 | signuts | so there isn't a way to track unused deps from the command line. I don't like gui's |
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| 19:24.53 | abrotman | deborphan ? |
| 19:24.55 | abrotman | debfoster? |
| 19:25.21 | signuts | abrotman, is one an upgarde of another? |
| 19:26.38 | abrotman | eh .. man deborphan |
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| 19:27.43 | bam_ | where do I download the latest stable iso? |
| 19:28.13 | clif4d | bam debian.org should guide you to a server near you |
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| 19:28.51 | bam_ | cool, I'm killing my ubuntu |
| 19:28.57 | kristalino | error: 'Can't create UNIX socket (97)' , when i start mysql ... On debian/sarge. Any really ideas ? |
| 19:29.25 | bam_ | you are trying to start it from root? |
| 19:29.51 | itchi | bam_: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 19:30.47 | CovInHer | kristalino: that errno value is address family not supported by protocol |
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| 19:31.00 | signuts | doesn't it seem odd that distros don't allow easy removal of unused packages!? |
| 19:31.12 | kristalino | Covener, yeap i know. But my ip adress is 192.168.1.1 ... |
| 19:31.24 | CovInHer | kristalino: unix socket doesn't care what your IP is, does it? |
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| 19:31.41 | CovInHer | signuts: i'd be surprised if my distro cared about what programs I was using |
| 19:31.44 | EdLin | signuts: if you use aptitude for everything, so it will have accurate state, you can easily remove a program and all its dependencies at the same time. |
| 19:31.50 | clif4d | signuts: use aptitude, it will remove dependencies if they are no longer used when you remove a package... |
| 19:31.52 | meff | hi all, i am running the latest 2.6.16 debian kernel package.. quick question, how do i make sure the it831x driver loads *after* the piix driver when it initrd's? sometimes its first and sometimes its last and i have to keep changing my dev links :/ |
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| 19:32.08 | Nekomagesdesu | clif4d, the earlier hdd problem I was having it seems one of my controller cards is half dead |
| 19:32.27 | Nekomagesdesu | thanks for the look into though ^^ |
| 19:32.32 | signuts | I have the whole list of deps that I installed for this f-spot app (which I ddin't really like) . Now I can't get deborphan to match any of the packages that were installed. Is there anything I can do now? |
| 19:32.33 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: oh :/ hard to diagnostic from IRC :) |
| 19:32.54 | clif4d | signuts: uninstall then by hand... |
| 19:33.03 | Nekomagesdesu | clif4d, yeah I mean by all apparences it was working, everything showed up at boot, it all showed up in /dev and dmesg it just won't mount |
| 19:33.12 | signuts | clif4d, well normally I don't have the list of apps it installed. heh |
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| 19:33.30 | JoelR | Hello, i have a problem, i have two Debian machines, let's say my machine is "A" and the other one is "B", when i try to log into B by doing ssh -l myuser ... it ask me for a passwd, i give it to it, ok, i enter in.. but in 30 segs more or less, it gets disconnected with this error: Read from remote host 192.168.0.2: Connection reset by peer |
| 19:33.34 | clif4d | signuts: so use aptitude in the future, that's excatly what it will do for you ;) |
| 19:33.34 | EdLin | signuts: we told you about aptitude. :-) |
| 19:33.38 | ricky_clarkson | When I use mplayer, I can't jump back very far, just back to the beginning of the last 15 seconds or so. |
| 19:33.47 | EdLin | !clif4d++ |
| 19:33.49 | ricky_clarkson | Any suggestions? |
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| 19:34.05 | kristalino | Covener, then what could be the problem about this unix socket ?? |
| 19:34.06 | clif4d | ricky_clarkson: broken video file |
| 19:34.16 | mc__ | ricky_clarkson, stop taking drugs |
| 19:34.18 | ricky_clarkson | clif4d: It's a .mov. |
| 19:34.24 | clif4d | ricky_clarkson: as I said :) |
| 19:34.37 | ricky_clarkson | That's no excuse, if it can play it. |
| 19:34.42 | signuts | clif4d, EdLin I know. I rephrane from using ncurses interfaces. If I ever would like to automate tasks using aptitude i'm screwed because of (n)curses |
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| 19:35.18 | clif4d | ricky_clarkson: check mplayer output, if it gives a bunch off errors even if it plays fine, it might suggest that there is something wrong with the seektable |
| 19:35.21 | meff | is there a way to specify the order the ide drivers are loaded at boot with a stock deb kernel? |
| 19:35.30 | EdLin | signuts: you can use aptitude on the command line too. "aptitude install foo" "aptitude purge foo" |
| 19:35.41 | clif4d | signuts: aptitude is commandline if you just use it like apt-get |
| 19:35.46 | signuts | EdLin, intersting, sweetness. I should read a bit I reckon. Sorry |
| 19:35.47 | ricky_clarkson | It's giving no relevant errors. |
| 19:36.01 | abrotman | signuts: deborphan is pretty easy to use .. or you can swithc to aptitude which does most of the work for you |
| 19:36.23 | signuts | deborphan didn't catch all the deps I installed |
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| 19:36.42 | EdLin | brb, in the meantime clif4d will answer my questions for me, or vice versa. ;-) |
| 19:36.51 | clif4d | one thing about aptitude though, by default it installs recommended packages too... just be aware of that, or change the conf :) |
| 19:37.17 | clif4d | ricky_clarkson: check if it works with a different movie file (avi fx) |
| 19:37.20 | kristalino | Covener, and ? i'm using debian/sarge. |
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| 19:39.35 | Akbar | wha's up with vlc in etch? |
| 19:39.54 | fhffhqvb | !bdo |
| 19:39.54 | badgers | [bdo] ask my about <bts>also http://backports.debian.org ask me about <backports> |
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| 19:40.23 | stew | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 19:40.23 | badgers | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 19:40.26 | stew | Akbar: ^^^ |
| 19:40.30 | Akbar | thanks |
| 19:40.37 | fhffhqvb | where did dpkg go off to anyway? |
| 19:41.32 | clif4d | stew: can't one just use the stable vlc? |
| 19:42.12 | signuts | so I have to use aptitude to install everything from now on? because I have a problem. aptitude purge f-spot just removed vim, cvs, gedit, .. all of which I use =) |
| 19:42.27 | Akbar | no.. the stable one doesn't work |
| 19:42.33 | Akbar | the unstable neither |
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| 19:43.07 | clif4d | signuts: yes that might be a problem, because it doesn't know about those packages, not excatly sure how to fix that since I used aptitude from the start |
| 19:43.21 | signuts | gotcha |
| 19:43.29 | signuts | no biggy. this is just my workstation :) |
| 19:43.30 | Akbar | aptitude what's wrong with just apt-get? |
| 19:43.36 | clif4d | signuts: or maybe only use purge on packages that you've installed with aptitude... |
| 19:43.42 | signuts | clif4d, yeah |
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| 19:43.59 | signuts | I often check out new apps but don't like 'em . .and am stuck w/ a million crappy deps. |
| 19:44.00 | clif4d | Akbar: aptitude remembers dependencies, and removes them as well when removing a package |
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| 19:44.23 | Akbar | I've never used aptitude in my life :P |
| 19:44.31 | zenwryly | is there some shell tool somewhere that can add a line to a file after another line in a file that can be specified either by line number or by a regex? |
| 19:44.37 | signuts | Akbar, ever installed f-spot. a stuipd mono app with like 30 deps |
| 19:44.37 | clif4d | signuts: same thing here, that's the main reason why I switched, when I had to reinstall anyway (new workstation) |
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| 19:44.54 | Akbar | signuts, f-spot isn't in etch yet right? |
| 19:45.17 | stoned | whoah, you know this isn't debian related but its computer related |
| 19:45.20 | signuts | Akbar, I don't know what etch is. |
| 19:45.24 | stoned | I got a job interview at DELL next friday! |
| 19:45.32 | JoelR | anyone? :( |
| 19:45.35 | stoned | fscking dell |
| 19:45.37 | fhffhqvb | stoned: laptop exploder? |
| 19:45.43 | pumpkin0 | signuts: etch is a "version" of debian |
| 19:45.43 | Akbar | signuts, but you can remove --purge mono.. then f-spot and all it's dependancies will be removed I asume |
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| 19:45.51 | stoned | fhffhqvb, tech support I think |
| 19:45.55 | stoned | they have a call center here |
| 19:46.08 | fhffhqvb | stoned: you're in india or what? |
| 19:46.13 | stoned | what? |
| 19:46.18 | stoned | wtf would I be in india for? |
| 19:46.20 | nwonknu | hi in order for me to use the drivers to get my wireless card working i need to upgrade my sarge's kernel to 2.6 >, anyone recommend the best way for doing this e.g. from source or using apt? |
| 19:46.26 | fhffhqvb | stoned: call center |
| 19:46.34 | stoned | dell is American dude |
| 19:46.38 | signuts | Akbar, apt-get purge --remove mono ? |
| 19:46.39 | fhffhqvb | stoned: and? |
| 19:46.45 | stoned | and you're weird |
| 19:46.51 | Serinity | Microsoft to.... their call center is in india... |
| 19:46.51 | Akbar | dell :S |
| 19:46.56 | signuts | erk.. Akbar I meant: apt-get remove --purge mono |
| 19:46.57 | Serinity | too * |
| 19:47.07 | fhffhqvb | stoned: no. most american companies have their callcenters in india now. |
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| 19:47.16 | signuts | stuipd americans |
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| 19:47.29 | pumpkin0 | nwonknu: use apt |
| 19:47.30 | fhffhqvb | signuts: "americans" already implies stupid |
| 19:47.37 | signuts | :) |
| 19:47.37 | Serinity | lol |
| 19:47.38 | mc__ | thats not ok |
| 19:47.40 | bam_ | ok, got a stupid question |
| 19:47.48 | fhffhqvb | bam_: o rly? |
| 19:47.51 | stoned | fhffhqvb, you need to stop being a penis |
| 19:47.52 | clif4d | fhffhqvb: uhh, watch out for the big guys, or they come 'n' get you :P |
| 19:47.53 | signuts | bam_, yu've got an american question |
| 19:47.54 | mc__ | not all americans are stupid |
| 19:47.57 | bam_ | I run a dual boot system(work stuff) |
| 19:48.01 | fhffhqvb | !penixstrike stoned |
| 19:48.02 | badgers | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking stoned to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 19:48.17 | stoned | fhffhqvb, don't pass judgements like a whole nation is stuipd |
| 19:48.19 | edrin | mc_: yes but all that vorted for the republicans ;) |
| 19:48.20 | bam_ | what would be the quickest way to switch from ubuntu to debian? |
| 19:48.21 | Akbar | gnome 2.14 rocks :D |
| 19:48.29 | signuts | mc__, I would think the americans, like myself, who call americans stupid are not the stuipd ones :) |
| 19:48.34 | fhffhqvb | stoned: prove me wrong |
| 19:48.39 | mbishop | for varying definitions of "rocks" |
| 19:48.39 | mc__ | edrin, nearly 50% did NOT vote for bush |
| 19:48.40 | Serinity | fhffhqvb, What you said is against US national security, your country and US are now in war, you have massive destruction word ! |
| 19:48.41 | bam_ | signuts, lets keep nationality out of it |
| 19:48.42 | pumpkin0 | bam_: a reinstall |
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| 19:48.54 | Silicon | oh sorry, i thought i was in #debian, not #politics |
| 19:48.54 | stoned | fhffhqvb, I don't need to. You put your foot in your mouth everytime you say something. Its bad for your health |
| 19:48.56 | signuts | bam, sorry it was supposed to be a joke but i'll shut up on it now |
| 19:49.08 | stoned | might reconsider your actions |
| 19:49.09 | stoned | :/ |
| 19:49.11 | edrin | heh |
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| 19:49.24 | bam_ | being american doesnt mean I support bush |
| 19:49.33 | fhffhqvb | stoned: i mock you. |
| 19:49.43 | bam_ | hehe |
| 19:49.55 | stoned | !troll fhffhqvb |
| 19:50.04 | fhffhqvb | !lose stoned |
| 19:50.05 | badgers | stoned: You Lose. |
| 19:50.16 | stoned | hey, whatever helps you sleep at night |
| 19:50.17 | mc__ | in #c++ people are telling about quantums,girls and live-styles...off-topic is in |
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| 19:50.25 | bam_ | ok, frick, guess I will have to fix the mbr in windoz the do a partition delete... |
| 19:50.33 | mbishop | mc__: better than talking about C++ :) |
| 19:50.38 | edrin | the "war against the *" (usually they replace * by terror, but terror itself is just a placeholder) |
| 19:50.46 | clif4d | mc__: c++ - girls... hmm talk about off topic ;) |
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| 19:51.03 | stew | dpkg: wb |
| 19:51.03 | dpkg | thanks, stew. It's good to be back. |
| 19:51.06 | Serinity | signuts, apt-get politics ..... Now the relationship's done.... No ? |
| 19:51.09 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 19:51.09 | badgers | No, fhffhqvb, you're not online any more. |
| 19:51.09 | dpkg | Sorry, fhffhqvb, I didn't get your test. |
| 19:51.19 | Silicon | apt-get lol |
| 19:51.24 | stoned | war against everything. americans are a warlike people, not just foriegn policy, but domestic rhetoric too. They don't do anything, just declare war on stuff, war on cancer, war on poverty, war on being offtopic in debian, etc. |
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| 19:51.34 | bam_ | there are only 2 dvd iso's correct? |
| 19:51.37 | dondelelcaro | folks, take the discussion elsewhere, please. |
| 19:51.41 | mbishop | s/americans/humans/ |
| 19:51.42 | signuts | Orange alert! |
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| 19:51.54 | fhffhqvb | dondelelcaro: where did dpkg go? |
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| 19:52.00 | signuts | seriously we gotta go talk about debian in #politics now? |
| 19:52.11 | edrin | god bless america |
| 19:52.27 | dondelelcaro | fhffhqvb: it ran out of SHM. |
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| 19:52.37 | Akbar | I can't understand why clinton gets remove --purge'd and bush gets a warning.. |
| 19:52.37 | [vali] | edrin, the whole continent ? |
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| 19:52.44 | fhffhqvb | dondelelcaro: OOPs |
| 19:52.50 | edrin | no |
| 19:52.53 | Akbar | clinton lied for having a bj |
| 19:52.56 | edrin | only america |
| 19:52.57 | stew | Akbar: [vali]: edrin: please drop it |
| 19:53.04 | Akbar | lol alright |
| 19:53.07 | bam_ | clinton was a pig, but a good manager |
| 19:53.11 | bam_ | I liked him |
| 19:53.13 | stew | bam_: stop |
| 19:53.21 | [vali] | stew, i only said 4 words, lol |
| 19:53.23 | stoned | I run two instances of X. I want to be able to copy/paste between the two. I can't find a way to do this, does anyone know of a utility that probably I dunno runs in the background and stores the buffer so that I can paste it into another X instance |
| 19:53.25 | fhffhqvb | hammertime? |
| 19:53.31 | stoned | anyone? I have been looking for days now, no luck so far |
| 19:53.36 | edrin | in example Kuba is not to be blessed |
| 19:53.44 | Serinity | bam, A pig ? If you had a woman ready to suck your cock... Wou'd say no ? He's just human... |
| 19:53.53 | abrotman | Serinity: please stop |
| 19:53.55 | Serinity | ok |
| 19:53.57 | Serinity | I stop |
| 19:53.59 | edrin | especially not Guantanamo |
| 19:54.03 | bam_ | no-dont get me wrong I LIKED HIM |
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| 19:54.06 | [vali] | i dont know why people use "america" for a country... its a continent |
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| 19:54.08 | Serinity | Sorry for that |
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| 19:54.20 | Akbar | wtf |
| 19:54.24 | repp | hmm |
| 19:54.29 | CovInHer | stoned: kinda lame, but you can run klipper from kde and communicate with them via dcop on command line |
| 19:54.32 | stoned | someone must have had the need to |
| 19:54.34 | dondelelcaro | you'll be -q'ed in 10 minutes; consider this a warning. |
| 19:54.41 | stew | stoned: possibly xclip would help? |
| 19:54.43 | stoned | I'm not the only one looking for such functions |
| 19:54.50 | stoned | Stew, I looked into it |
| 19:54.51 | stoned | stew* |
| 19:54.58 | stoned | but I dont' understand it |
| 19:55.00 | jhod | I'm having a problem upgrading x11-common... error message is "/usr/include/X11: nonexistent", but doesn't create it. I do have a /usr/X11R6/include, but if I create a symlink it still errors. I didn't see this mentioned on the wiki... any suggestions? |
| 19:55.08 | Serinity | hum... |
| 19:55.29 | nwonknu | hi in order for me to use the drivers to get my wireless card working i need to upgrade my sarge's kernel to 2.6 >, anyone recommend the best way for doing this e.g. from source or using apt? |
| 19:55.34 | stoned | I tried really. I can't figure out how to copy/paste text with a mouse in it, without typing commands. of coruse I could always save the text in a file and access it from the other X but I dunno |
| 19:55.39 | stoned | xclip I mean |
| 19:55.57 | stew | stoned: yeah, you'd have to use a file |
| 19:56.02 | stoned | CovInHer, that sounds interesting |
| 19:56.04 | dondelelcaro | nwonknu: install the 2.6.8 kernel which is in sarge, assuming your wireless card works with that. |
| 19:56.10 | stoned | CovInHer, how does that work? |
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| 19:56.19 | stoned | CovInHer, could you elaborate a bit, I use kde btw |
| 19:56.23 | dondelelcaro | nwonknu: if it doesn't, then your best bet is to /msg dpkg kp; and learn how to build a kernel the Debian way. |
| 19:56.25 | stew | stoned: or hmm, i dunno if you could maye: "xclip -out | DISPLAY=:1 xclip -in" |
| 19:56.46 | stoned | stew, I will look into it |
| 19:56.48 | stoned | again |
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| 19:57.23 | Akbar | if only jedit wasn't java based.. |
| 19:57.28 | stew | stoned: and make sure you aren't getting the clipboard and selection confused |
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| 19:57.54 | dondelelcaro | nwonknu: best to keep it in the channel; I'm likely to wander off from time to time |
| 19:58.13 | nwonknu | dondelelcaro kk ;) |
| 19:58.21 | stoned | stew, I discovered something just now |
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| 19:58.38 | pumpkin0 | nwonknu: again: use apt. |
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| 19:58.44 | stoned | I tried to switch to the other X and it crashed, composite error, transparency stuff, plus it was hogging my system down |
| 19:58.59 | nwonknu | dondelelcaro 2.6.8 is fine however i may have tried that yesterday and im sure it wouldnt boot resululting ina kernel panic |
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| 19:59.01 | stoned | I think it would be wiser for me to ssh -X blah app instead of running two X |
| 19:59.18 | stoned | at least that way the clip works fine and the selection |
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| 20:04.16 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@e181072002.adsl.alicedsl.de] by dondelelcaro |
| 20:04.18 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 20:04.21 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 20:04.28 | dondelelcaro | nwonknu: you'll have to give us the information on what exactly the error message of the kernel panic was. |
| 20:06.52 | Krhis | Just did a LAMP install and I'm getting some strange output from ps. Any suggestions as to why I have 10 apache2's and 9 mysqld's running? |
| 20:06.53 | Krhis | http://pastebin.ca/70126 |
| 20:08.22 | enyc | Krhis: erm... |
| 20:08.35 | enyc | Krhis: you may find...... thats normal... prefork or whatever |
| 20:08.46 | Krhis | enyc, ok. Thanks. |
| 20:08.46 | enyc | Krhis: not sure myself.... |
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| 20:09.21 | Krhis | Well, 885 seems to be the only mysqld doing anything. |
| 20:09.29 | enyc | heh |
| 20:09.38 | enyc | and maybe more do nothing unless system busy |
| 20:09.52 | Krhis | Nope, it's off the network too. |
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| 20:10.27 | enyc | I remember squid and diskd and such-like... |
| 20:10.34 | dibblego | is there a package that will automatically set me up a SSH tunnel using -L? |
| 20:10.38 | enyc | these were processes for allsorts |
| 20:10.59 | Krhis | Normally I'd google first.... just not to sure what to look for. |
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| 20:11.52 | pinky_ | I have three .ttf files I need installed to display subtitles properly in this video file |
| 20:11.58 | pinky_ | Where do I place them? |
| 20:12.23 | clif4d | pinky_: are you running kde? |
| 20:12.26 | Akbar | ~/.fonts |
| 20:12.27 | apt | /.fonts is probably for fontconfig'ed apps, like gimp-2.0 and newest scribus |
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| 20:12.48 | pinky_ | I'm running GNOME at the moment, but I switch back and forth between KDE and GNOME |
| 20:13.02 | mc__ | pingu, try xfce |
| 20:13.06 | Akbar | put all your ttf fonts in ~/.fonts |
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| 20:13.58 | enyc | dibblego: erm... ive seen something that did that |
| 20:14.27 | dibblego | enyc, I'm looking at autossh, but I'm a bit unsure |
| 20:14.32 | enyc | autossh |
| 20:14.32 | enyc | aah |
| 20:14.33 | dibblego | it's lacking doco a bit |
| 20:14.40 | enyc | I was about to say that name ;-) |
| 20:14.50 | dibblego | cheers :) |
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| 20:15.55 | pinky_ | Akbar: Hmm, I tried dropping those TTF files in ~/.fonts but the subtitles still don't show. |
| 20:16.08 | S4nD3r | hi there... In console, which command may I use to open a file? |
| 20:16.09 | Akbar | which application? |
| 20:16.10 | pinky_ | It's an MKV file, with the subs supposedly inside the file |
| 20:16.12 | enyc | dibblego: ?what is a 'doco a bit' ? |
| 20:16.35 | pinky_ | I've tried it in multiple applications: MPlayer, KPlayer, Totem... |
| 20:16.44 | dibblego | it is lacking documentation - but I can guess the missing parts |
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| 20:17.31 | dibblego | g'morning |
| 20:17.37 | dibblego | my boys woke me up early |
| 20:17.56 | elik_laptop | !tell elik_laptop tpconfig |
| 20:18.01 | stew | S4nD3r: what kind of file? you want to edit it? or view it? |
| 20:18.01 | pinky_ | The torrent also claims the MKV files have "dual audio" but I cannot seem to be able to switch audio streams |
| 20:18.10 | ricky_clarkson | elik_laptop: /msg dpkg tpconfig |
| 20:18.20 | Maulkin | !hello |
| 20:18.20 | dpkg | Hi, maulkin! |
| 20:18.22 | elik_laptop | ricky, I know, but it didnt work |
| 20:18.27 | ricky_clarkson | !tpconfig |
| 20:18.31 | Maulkin | \o/ dpkg lives! |
| 20:18.37 | ricky_clarkson | !ping |
| 20:18.37 | dpkg | pong |
| 20:18.48 | elik_laptop | !karma ricky_clarkson |
| 20:18.48 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson has karma of 2 |
| 20:18.52 | elik_laptop | oh! |
| 20:18.56 | elik_laptop | Anyway |
| 20:18.57 | S4nD3r | This is a question... |
| 20:19.04 | mc__ | !karma mc__ |
| 20:19.04 | dpkg | mc__ has neutral karma |
| 20:19.09 | Maulkin | (No, it's a statement) |
| 20:19.15 | mc__ | how to get a better karma? |
| 20:19.26 | ricky_clarkson | mc__-- |
| 20:19.26 | S4nD3r | using operating system (linux), in console, I have an exercise to open, close, show a file |
| 20:19.29 | Maulkin | mc__: Hang around in here and be nice :) |
| 20:19.30 | S4nD3r | any file... |
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| 20:19.48 | elik_laptop | try it again now :P |
| 20:19.54 | stew | S4nD3r: "editor /path/to/file" |
| 20:19.58 | nwonknu | dondelelcaro is the package i need kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686? |
| 20:20.06 | abrotman | kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:20.09 | elik_laptop | I am trying to configure tpconfig to deactivate my touchpad why I have a mouse plugged in, anyone can help? |
| 20:20.17 | stew | S4nD3r: you may wish to first "update-alternatives --config editor" and select an editor |
| 20:20.33 | stew | S4nD3r: (update-alternatives as root, then run "editor" as a regular user) |
| 20:21.12 | S4nD3r | Oh... |
| 20:21.35 | S4nD3r | It was an exercise done for a teacher to his students |
| 20:21.41 | S4nD3r | then, all they are lost |
| 20:21.57 | S4nD3r | and was trying to help them, but... I didnt understand how |
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| 20:23.18 | christor | Hi |
| 20:23.23 | elik_laptop | Or if anyone has suggestion on how to deactivate touchpad.... it is drving me crazy |
| 20:24.09 | nwonknu | dondelelcaro the error i was getting earlier is kernel panic: attempted to kill init! , the line above says /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file |
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| 20:25.02 | pumpkin0 | how do i setup the speedstep-scaling-gov in debian ? |
| 20:26.15 | pinky_ | What video playing app can switch between multiple audio streams with an MKV video file? MPlayer can't seem to detect the second audio stream (or display subtitles)... |
| 20:26.30 | Nekomagesdesu | oi >_< ok I uninstalled a kernel and it's still showing up on the boot loader how do I remove that? |
| 20:27.16 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: grub or lilo ? |
| 20:27.24 | nwonknu | Nekomagesdesu edit the bootloaders config file |
| 20:27.31 | Nekomagesdesu | whatever the default is ^^ |
| 20:27.33 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst if using grub |
| 20:27.47 | stew | pinky_: what happens when you try to do it with mplayer? do you get an error? |
| 20:27.49 | Nekomagesdesu | guess I have to learn grub sometime >_< |
| 20:28.18 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: it can come in handy if you somehow screw things up, since you have a lot of power from the grub command line in the bootloader |
| 20:28.36 | pinky_ | stew: No the MKV plays alright, but it doesn't let me switch between audio tracks (there are 2 in the MKV file) |
| 20:28.39 | Nekomagesdesu | how do I set the bootloader after editing the file? |
| 20:28.48 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: set it? |
| 20:28.50 | pinky_ | And it won't display the SSA subtitles embedded in the MKV |
| 20:29.12 | Nekomagesdesu | install load whatever you wish to call at any time of day ^^ |
| 20:29.12 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: there is no need to run f.eks. grub, like you run lilo, since grub reads the config file when it boots |
| 20:29.24 | Nekomagesdesu | oh |
| 20:29.30 | Nekomagesdesu | I miss my lilo :( |
| 20:29.34 | stew | pinky_: tried asking in #mplayer? |
| 20:29.37 | aredhel | pinky_, for mplayer use the cmd line switch, if you need to switch audio streams while playing use gmplayer |
| 20:29.43 | clif4d | though if you want the debian auto things to happen, you should run update-grub |
| 20:29.49 | b1rken | How can i correct the clock in debian/fluxbox? |
| 20:29.55 | pinky_ | The video is XviD (plays fine) and both audio tracks are Vorbis (the first track plays fine, can't access the second one) and the SSA subs don't even show |
| 20:30.01 | beardy | !set the time |
| 20:30.02 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 20:30.02 | b1rken | change the clock, the time is not right, sorry for bad english |
| 20:30.04 | clif4d | Nekomagesdesu: there's noone forcing you to use grub, just switch to lilo if you like it better |
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| 20:30.38 | clif4d | b1rken: ntpdate is fine for that |
| 20:31.15 | Nekomagesdesu | next annoying question from me, where is that evil apple talk protocol being started from -_- |
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| 20:31.30 | pinky_ | aredhel: gmplayer doesn't give me that option for these files |
| 20:31.35 | b1rken | command not found clif4d |
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| 20:31.47 | clif4d | b1rken: you need to install it ;) |
| 20:31.48 | pinky_ | aredhel: It does for some VOBs I have with multiple tracks that came from a DVD |
| 20:31.55 | pinky_ | But not for this MKV |
| 20:32.32 | aredhel | pinky_, the man page says '#' works for mkv. What vers of mplayer are you using? |
| 20:33.17 | elik__ | Anyone ever used tpconfig? |
| 20:33.43 | pinky_ | MPlayer dev-CVS--4.0.3 |
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| 20:34.23 | aredhel | pinky_, mplayer has switched snv a while back |
| 20:34.57 | aredhel | pinky_, so you are using out of date code. |
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| 20:35.32 | aredhel | pinky_, head over to #mplayer and read the topic. |
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| 20:36.08 | arturaz | erm.. how to launch debconf for exim4? |
| 20:36.38 | clif4d | arturaz: dpkg-reconfigure exim |
| 20:36.43 | petemc | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 20:36.44 | clif4d | arturaz: dpkg-reconfigure exim4 or whatever |
| 20:36.55 | arturaz | doesn't work =] |
| 20:37.03 | arturaz | gw:/etc/exim4# dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 20:37.04 | arturaz | gw:/etc/exim4# |
| 20:37.07 | arturaz | no dialogs whatsoever |
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| 20:37.19 | clif4d | arturaz: maybe try base-config if that's what you're looking for |
| 20:37.23 | petemc | .. |
| 20:37.49 | PhinnFort | does debian testing come with the islsm drivers? |
| 20:38.52 | arturaz | clif4d, base-config did it, thanks |
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| 20:39.41 | elik__ | Need help deactivating touchpad on my gateway laptop, using Debian Sarge with 2.6 kernell |
| 20:40.29 | pumpkin0 | elik__: just tell X not to use the bloody thing ... |
| 20:41.00 | elik__ | uh |
| 20:41.13 | elik__ | pumpkin0, what if I dont plug the mouse |
| 20:41.21 | PhinnFort | anyone know what drivers the kernel comes with? |
| 20:41.38 | clif4d | PhinnFort: quite a lot :) |
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| 20:41.58 | PhinnFort | islsm? |
| 20:41.59 | beardy | PhinnFort: None. |
| 20:42.04 | PhinnFort | no islsm? |
| 20:42.12 | pumpkin0 | elik__: every mouse has a /dev/-file. pick the ones you want in your X-config and leave the rest out. |
| 20:42.17 | PhinnFort | can't someone please modprobe -l | grep islsm? |
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| 20:42.55 | clif4d | PhinnFort: the prism54 project offers the islsm driver.. |
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| 20:43.21 | PhinnFort | no |
| 20:43.30 | PhinnFort | it's a "spin-off" |
| 20:43.34 | beardy | PhinnFort: If you choose to compile the kernel with module support, and choose to compile some things as modules, they are called modules. The Linux kernel includes a _lot_ of things, a lot of hardware is supported. |
| 20:43.37 | PhinnFort | it's developed seperately |
| 20:43.46 | PhinnFort | i know |
| 20:43.55 | PhinnFort | but islsm isn't in the official kernel tree |
| 20:44.10 | elik__ | pumpkin0, I am trying to use some tools that already do that, like tpconfig or ksynaptics but am having difficulties making them work |
| 20:44.12 | PhinnFort | but ubuntu includes it in their standard kernel package |
| 20:44.17 | clif4d | PhinnFort: well then patch your kernel or install a module |
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| 20:44.42 | s0n1 | hi |
| 20:44.42 | PhinnFort | meaning, compiling it myself? |
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| 20:44.43 | pumpkin0 | elik__: alternative: deinstall all touchpad drivers |
| 20:44.50 | clif4d | PhinnFort: that's because they've pathced their kernel with that driver |
| 20:44.55 | s0n1 | someone have MIRROR of openwebmail 2.52 herE? |
| 20:45.17 | elik__ | PhinnFort, watch out when you pronouciate the U work on this channel, some ppl get pissed quite quickly |
| 20:45.19 | clif4d | PhinnFort: yes, either that, or install the debian kernel headers/source and compile a third party module |
| 20:45.34 | PhinnFort | ok |
| 20:45.43 | elik__ | :P |
| 20:45.47 | PhinnFort | that's what i did on my gentoo |
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| 20:46.47 | pumpkin0 | PhinnFort: just get the kernel-sources and patch away ... there are even support prog. for building and installing custom kernels. |
| 20:47.07 | clif4d | PhinnFort: then you'll probably need to do that too on your debian box, or wait untill it is included in mainline or debian kernel, if ever (might have a license issue) |
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| 20:47.36 | PhinnFort | i don't think it's a license issiue |
| 20:47.39 | PhinnFort | *ue |
| 20:47.45 | PhinnFort | except the firmware |
| 20:47.46 | biopyte | hi. is there a way to view a powerpoint file without openoffice? |
| 20:47.55 | clif4d | biopyte: use koffice |
| 20:48.11 | b1rken | is there any way to see whats on the hard drive from icwem or fluxbox? |
| 20:48.18 | PhinnFort | ls |
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| 20:48.35 | clif4d | b1rken: open a terminal (xterm fx) and run "ls" |
| 20:48.38 | PhinnFort | http://www.lesser-software.com/en/content/products/lswvst/pp_viewer.htm? |
| 20:48.42 | biopyte | clif4d: anything else :) ... i have not kde installed here. |
| 20:48.43 | PhinnFort | to biopyte |
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| 20:49.21 | beardy | biopyte: You don't have to, only the big pile of libraries. |
| 20:49.24 | clif4d | biopyte: apt-cache search ppt should give you something to play with ;) |
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| 20:49.56 | gandhijee | what was MOD_INC_USE_COUNT replaced with in the 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:50.00 | clif4d | biopyte: pptview is another option |
| 20:50.27 | b1rken | and how can i ftp my box from my computer over the network? |
| 20:50.28 | clif4d | though it requires wine... |
| 20:50.37 | biopyte | clif4d: alright. thank you. |
| 20:50.46 | clif4d | b1rken: ftp to or from your computer? |
| 20:51.06 | b1rken | ftp from my computer, to my server |
| 20:51.37 | clif4d | b1rken: and you have debian on your server or "computer" ? |
| 20:51.47 | b1rken | How do i set ut a ftp server on my box, so that i can connect to it from my computer(windows) and upload files? |
| 20:52.02 | b1rken | my box is running debian with icewm |
| 20:52.03 | clif4d | anyway, proftpd is a ftpserver that is pretty simple to set up |
| 20:52.03 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: install proftpd |
| 20:52.18 | gandhijee | anyone know??? |
| 20:52.29 | clif4d | other choices are pureftpd, vsftpd etc. |
| 20:53.09 | b1rken | installing proftpd now .d |
| 20:53.15 | biopyte | clif4d: "impress" needs OOo, koffice needs KDE, pptview needs wine. does any want to write a little standalone solution? ;) just kidding. |
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| 20:53.23 | PhinnFort | proftpd is good |
| 20:53.31 | b1rken | now it`s installed, how can i run/configure it |
| 20:53.52 | elik__ | it suprises me that someone with ubuntu in his name is not automatically banned :P |
| 20:54.09 | clif4d | b1rken: if it isn't already running (ps aux | grep proftp) you can run /etc/init.d/proftpd start |
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| 20:54.54 | beardy | elik__: You're the only one then. |
| 20:55.11 | elik__ | ? |
| 20:55.25 | PhinnFort | but please, can someone do a modprobe -l | grep islsm? |
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| 20:55.29 | clif4d | elik__: ubuntu and debian users and devs alike should help eachother, not flame/fight and thereby waste time |
| 20:55.32 | mantang0 | How come when I try to install php-pear on a server that has php5 it wants to remove oho5-mysql and phpmyadmin?? |
| 20:55.36 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: change into /etc and run find "*proftp*". edit that file ... |
| 20:55.45 | clif4d | PhinnFort: sorry, running a custom compiled kernel, so no can do |
| 20:55.54 | PhinnFort | hrm |
| 20:55.55 | PhinnFort | :P |
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| 20:56.16 | elik__ | clif4d, I absolutely agree, but I saw many ppl say #ubuntu as soon as they hear the U word |
| 20:56.17 | beardy | clif4d: Not my point. |
| 20:56.21 | mantang0 | (that should be php5-mysql) |
| 20:56.21 | b1rken | i can connect to the ftp, but i have to configure a username and password |
| 20:56.27 | clif4d | PhinnFort: well, sure I could do it, but the output probably wouldn't be of much use to you ;) |
| 20:56.35 | PhinnFort | heh |
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| 20:56.54 | clif4d | b1rken: it uses the system users |
| 20:56.58 | PhinnFort | i don't care about downloading a full iso and wasting a cd-r if it doesn't have islsm;) |
| 20:57.04 | elik__ | beardy, what did you mean? |
| 20:57.21 | madclicker | does courier-maildrop for etch support mysql users? |
| 20:57.23 | beardy | elik__: You can't ban people by their choice of nick. Someone would then come up with the idea to ban everyone which has a nick starting with elik, for some reason. |
| 20:57.40 | b1rken | pumpkin0: no suck directory or file |
| 20:57.55 | clif4d | nice spelling mistake ;) |
| 20:58.23 | elik__ | beardy, I was just trying to point out that some ppl out here took it too seriously |
| 20:58.35 | clif4d | b1rken: try to login to you ftp server using your normal username/pass (f.eks. b1rken or whatever your normal user account is) |
| 20:58.40 | beardy | elik__: {+l33tfuXx0r+}, is a worse choice of nick that that. |
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| 20:58.58 | elik__ | beardy, it is :P |
| 20:59.02 | clif4d | beardy: come on, that's a cool nick :P |
| 21:00.06 | beardy | clif4d: It's not cool to tabcomplete. |
| 21:00.22 | Ronin | not to tab complete beardy? |
| 21:00.35 | clif4d | beardy: use irssi, it has intelligent tab completion ;) |
| 21:00.40 | beardy | Ronin: Tried a diplomatic answer. |
| 21:00.45 | PhinnFort | use konversation, it has it too |
| 21:00.47 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 21:00.54 | ^tw | use mirc! |
| 21:00.59 | ^tw | ffs |
| 21:01.02 | Krhis | O.o |
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| 21:01.24 | Krhis | Ever telnet into irc? ^^ |
| 21:01.47 | clif4d | ^tw: aptitude install mirc: Unable to find package mirc :P |
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| 21:02.14 | Krhis | haha XD |
| 21:02.15 | beardy | ^tw: Lousy attempt. |
| 21:02.28 | b1rken | ok, tanks :) |
| 21:02.39 | b1rken | pumpkin0: how do i remove a user? :) |
| 21:02.50 | evilbulgarian | hi, i just restored my linux from a backup and i have my newest etc tar'ed up what is the best way to merge the two etc's? |
| 21:03.03 | clif4d | b1rken: deluser |
| 21:03.19 | clif4d | evilbulgarian: you could use cp with the update option |
| 21:03.33 | b1rken | ty |
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| 21:03.43 | evilbulgarian | clif4d: ok thanks gonna look at the man page any other ideas? |
| 21:03.54 | clif4d | evilbulgarian: rsync is another option |
| 21:04.19 | clif4d | evilbulgarian: or diff each file (fx using kompare to diff the dirs) and manually add the things you want |
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| 21:05.21 | pumpkin0 | b1rken: deluser ? |
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| 21:05.32 | b1rken | Snake-Eyes: i did it .d |
| 21:05.33 | b1rken | :D |
| 21:06.37 | Rexxars | I installed the netinstall testing release with gnome and base system, the login manager thing says both my root and other users passwords are wrong... |
| 21:07.20 | elik__ | Anyone can help with tpconfig? |
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| 21:08.52 | pinky_ | Is there a way to batch convert Apple Lossless (ALAC) to FLAC? |
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| 21:09.25 | pinky_ | I can do one at a time fine, but that would take forever with the amount I need to trascode. |
| 21:09.41 | beardy | pinky_: Write a small script then. |
| 21:10.08 | beardy | !absg pinky_ |
| 21:10.08 | dpkg | pinky_: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'apt-get install abs-guide'. |
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| 21:12.08 | beardy | pinky_: How do you convert one? |
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| 21:17.32 | pinky_ | beardy: I downloaded and compiled an encoder... "alac" is the name of the executable |
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| 21:19.08 | pinky_ | beardy I run "./alac -f rawr.wav rawr.m4a" |
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| 21:19.26 | beardy | pinky_: Ok, I meant the entire command to convert one. 'someprogram --optionperhaps afile anotherfile' |
| 21:19.34 | beardy | pinky_: Ah. |
| 21:19.41 | pinky_ | Then I take the rawr.wav that was just generated by that, and then run "flac -8 rawr.wav" |
| 21:20.11 | pinky_ | That's easy in and of itself, but I need to do that 100+ times |
| 21:20.20 | pinky_ | With filenames that have (gasp) spaces |
| 21:20.21 | beardy | pinky_: Is all these files in the same directory? |
| 21:20.32 | pinky_ | No, I can make that happen though |
| 21:20.34 | beardy | oh, yuck.. |
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| 21:20.52 | dooglus | is sea monkey available for unstable? |
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| 21:21.21 | clif4d | pinky_: it's a good oppotunity to learn perl or bash scripting, since you'll probably end out using about the same amount of time getting it done ;) |
| 21:21.50 | pinky_ | clif4d: hehe, well I'm definately willing to learn bash scripting, in fact I was planning on it |
| 21:22.03 | pinky_ | I've just got a lot of other stuff on my plate atm |
| 21:22.16 | pinky_ | But I suppose I can't bitch |
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| 21:22.37 | abrotman | dooglus: the mozilla browser? |
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| 21:22.49 | clif4d | pinky_: but you could just use "find *.mp4 -exec 'YOUR COMMAND' " |
| 21:23.11 | clif4d | sorry, find -name *.mp4 |
| 21:23.18 | dooglus | pinky_: how about something like: find . -name '*.wav' -type f | while read x; do ./alac -f "$x" "$(echo "$x" | sed 's/.wav$/.m4a/')"; done |
| 21:23.24 | stew | pinky_: you can probably do it with a pipeline, somehting like "./alac -f - rawr.m4a | flac -8 -". '-' usually refers to stdin/stdout chech the alac manpage to see exactly how to dump the raw riff data to stdout |
| 21:23.31 | dooglus | abrotman: the mozilla suite |
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| 21:23.48 | abrotman | dooglus: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350740 |
| 21:23.49 | pinky_ | aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 21:23.51 | dooglus | abrotman: mozilla.org discontinued it, so some other people continued its development, renaming it "sea monkey" |
| 21:23.59 | clif4d | dooglus: why not use find's exec option? |
| 21:24.05 | pinky_ | haha okay hold on I have to figure this out |
| 21:24.21 | dooglus | clif4d: because of complications with quoting |
| 21:25.12 | pinky_ | I can temporarily rename them to have no spaces |
| 21:25.13 | dooglus | clif4d: also, I think you would have to start a new shell for each file if you wanted to use find's -exec option |
| 21:25.26 | pinky_ | I can deal with that once I tag them all once they're FLAC |
| 21:25.34 | dooglus | pinky_: does the command I told you not do it? |
| 21:25.48 | abrotman | dooglus: i know what iti s .. read that URL |
| 21:26.08 | pinky_ | dooglus: I mean, yikes, I can only tell about what half of that does, but I'll try I suppose... |
| 21:26.17 | clif4d | dooglus: no, find -exec is used to execute a command on many files, so it doesn't start a new shell, and I don't see the quoting problem either... |
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| 21:30.32 | dooglus | clif4d: how would you write that command using -exec? |
| 21:31.16 | pinky_ | I tried doing "./alac * -f - | flac -8 -" and it didn't work |
| 21:31.44 | clif4d | dooglus: something like find -name *.wav -exec alac -f {}.mp4 {} \; though it doesn't fix the output name ofcourse... |
| 21:32.27 | dooglus | clif4d: {}.mp4 isn't what he wants. he wants file.wav and file.mp4, not file.wav.mp4 |
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| 21:32.54 | dooglus | clif4d: fixing the output name is the tricky bit |
| 21:32.56 | clif4d | dooglus: as I said, it didn't fix the name, but I guess it could be done with some sed magic |
| 21:33.11 | clif4d | though it might need to be done afterwards |
| 21:33.16 | stew | pinky_: look at the manpage for alac, does it say anython about stdout? |
| 21:34.25 | clif4d | well anyway, my shift is over, see you |
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| 21:34.30 | dooglus | clif4d: right. that's why I don't use -exec - I don't find it easy to get it to do what I want |
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| 21:37.12 | stew | pinky_: if not then you can use an intermediate file: find -name \*m4a | while read a ; do alac -f ${a%m4a}wav $a && flac -8 -o ${a%m4a}flac && rm ${a%m4a}wav ; done |
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| 21:37.57 | dooglus | stew: the filenames might have spaces in, I think |
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| 21:38.20 | ^tw | for f in "*.m4a"; do ... |
| 21:38.31 | stew | pinky_: if not then you can use an intermediate file: find -name \*m4a | while read a ; do alac -f "${a%m4a}wav" "$a" && flac -8 -o "${a%m4a}flac" && rm "${a%m4a}wav" ; done |
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| 21:40.52 | buzzcap | What packages must I have in order to properly use my printer? |
| 21:41.51 | buzzcap | Hello? |
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| 21:42.36 | Silent_al | buzzcap , cups |
| 21:42.42 | Silent_al | !cups |
| 21:42.43 | dpkg | i guess cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 21:42.56 | buzzcap | Silent_al: I have cupssys installed but nothing is working ... I press Print Test Page and nothing comes out. |
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| 21:43.56 | Silent_al | what happens when you type http://localhost:631 in your browser adress bar?? |
| 21:44.01 | Silent_al | address* |
| 21:44.03 | buzzcap | Silent_al: I get the web interface |
| 21:44.25 | buzzcap | Silent_al: But I do not know the exact location of the printer. |
| 21:44.29 | Silent_al | buzzcap, what kind of printer do you got? |
| 21:44.38 | buzzcap | Silent_al: and hp psc 1300 series |
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| 21:47.27 | buzzcap | Silent_al: so now what? |
| 21:47.30 | Silent_al | buzzcap, have you treid looking @ www.linuxprinting.org ? |
| 21:47.44 | buzzcap | Silent_al: I have all the -ppd packages installed. |
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| 21:48.32 | flamesrock | guys, how do I make lilo write to a floppy disk instead of the mbr? |
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| 21:48.44 | Tuborgn | I'm not gay, bus samba is |
| 21:48.50 | Tuborgn | bus- but |
| 21:48.58 | Silent_al | is it properly instaleed? what does dmesg | tail , say about it? |
| 21:49.05 | Silent_al | ll* |
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| 21:49.22 | tanr | hi |
| 21:49.24 | beoba | hi, i just installed xorg to this machine, aptitude is now complaining that, for each package, "this version of <package> is from an UNTRUSTED SOURCE!" how do i go about resolving this? |
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| 21:49.31 | tanr | i need help |
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| 21:49.35 | beoba | i also did a bunch of package updates, it could be the result of one of those |
| 21:49.53 | tanr | debian:~# apt-get upgrade |
| 21:49.53 | tanr | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 21:49.53 | tanr | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 21:49.53 | tanr | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
| 21:49.54 | tanr | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 21:49.54 | tanr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:51.23 | jjazz | beoba: when was the last time you upgraded your box? |
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| 21:51.35 | beoba | jjazz: i installed debian to it about a month ago |
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| 21:51.46 | beoba | so a matter of a couple weeks at most |
| 21:51.55 | jjazz | Did you change your sources? |
| 21:51.58 | beoba | any idea how to resolve this problem? |
| 21:51.59 | beoba | no |
| 21:52.03 | jjazz | You need the key |
| 21:52.07 | beoba | the key. |
| 21:52.14 | jjazz | !tell beoba about dpkg 2006 key |
| 21:52.28 | beoba | im not being told |
| 21:52.39 | jjazz | !tell beoba about 2006 key |
| 21:52.44 | beoba | there it goes |
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| 21:53.57 | jjazz | beoba: I'm not sure why you didn't need it two weeks ago, but that's probably where you start looking. |
| 21:54.32 | beoba | my apt is at 0.6.44.2 |
| 21:54.37 | beoba | (im doing unstable) |
| 21:54.46 | beoba | the message i got says that i need 0.6.44.1 to have this key |
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| 21:54.54 | SexyKen | How do you view what version of linux you're running? |
| 21:54.58 | beoba | so i guess the update caused it to freak out |
| 21:55.02 | beoba | since thats what updates should do |
| 21:55.05 | beoba | SexyKen: uname -a |
| 21:55.23 | Tomze | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 21:55.33 | mantang0 | I have a system here that has some packages from stable and some from testing. I'd like to move it to pure testing. I also have an /etc/apt/preferences file with priority configs for testing/stable/unstable. Is this easy? |
| 21:55.42 | beoba | fantastic, i have to install gpg for the fix |
| 21:55.51 | mantang0 | it may also have a few unstable... |
| 21:56.56 | evilbulgarian | what is a good way to see the differences between two dirs or see which files have changed? |
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| 21:57.49 | xomhauvtt | hi all |
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| 21:58.14 | darkcmd | How is ISA support in Linux |
| 21:58.18 | zenbalrog | And, |
| 21:58.28 | zenbalrog | ame, |
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| 21:58.39 | darkcmd | just curious before I try downloading debian, and have some of my devices fail |
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| 21:59.32 | xomhauvtt | how to automatical create file with name aaa1->aaa999 ? |
| 22:00.23 | ktwilight | run a loop? |
| 22:00.23 | beoba | jjazz: okay, i just manually typed all of that into here, and added the key as it said |
| 22:00.31 | beoba | and apparently that did nothing to solve the problem |
| 22:00.32 | Piet_ | xomhauvtt: check the man pages of your shell for 'while' |
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| 22:00.46 | jair | what will be the best way to connect my debian computer to a printer on a windows network path= /aopspool/om1 |
| 22:00.49 | jair | ? |
| 22:01.07 | jair | should I connect to it using jetadmin? samba? ipp? |
| 22:01.29 | xomhauvtt | Piet_: thank |
| 22:01.55 | Piet_ | darkcmd: isa is old, thus well supported ;-) a few deprecated, often badly implemented drivers have been removed off 2.6.x kernels, so you may want to try 2.4 if you run into trouble with 2.6.x. but other than that you should be fine. |
| 22:02.08 | darkcmd | nice :) |
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| 22:02.19 | darkcmd | time to 486 it up |
| 22:02.20 | beoba | i might have found the cause |
| 22:02.33 | beoba | it looks like there's an awesome dependency between the keyring and gnupg |
| 22:02.51 | Piet_ | jair: ipp/samba |
| 22:03.01 | beoba | so if i were to think 'well, i guess gnupg isnt needed by anything', then that makes apt shit itself |
| 22:03.29 | beoba | no, wait, that didnt fix anything either |
| 22:04.18 | dondelelcaro | beoba: first, that message is just a warning. Second, which package are you getting it from, and which source is it comming from? |
| 22:04.26 | beoba | dondelelcaro: sorry, what? |
| 22:04.47 | beoba | i ran apt-key list manually and it mentioned that a package called 'debian-archive-keyring' was missing |
| 22:04.54 | beoba | that package apparently has gnupg as a prerequisite |
| 22:05.22 | beoba | and since i vaguely remember removing gnupg previously, that would imply that its removal caused the system to also remove debian-archive-keyring |
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| 22:05.31 | beoba | which contains the signing keys for the .debs |
| 22:05.57 | beoba | however, since i just installed that package and it's still giving me complaints in aptitude, this would imply that there's yet something else that has to be fixed |
| 22:06.10 | dondelelcaro | beoba: you can't remove gnupg anymore, because apt depends upon it. |
| 22:06.20 | beoba | dondelelcaro: thanks for telling me 20 minutes ago |
| 22:06.32 | beoba | dondelelcaro: so how about a solution to aptitude bitching at me despite the keyrings being installed? |
| 22:06.42 | darkcmd | man this machine is old.... I have to install to ESDI drives.. is this possible? |
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| 22:06.54 | dondelelcaro | beoba: 1) what package is giving you this warning? 2) what source is the package comming from? |
| 22:07.08 | beoba | dondelelcaro: 1) * 2) * |
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| 22:07.30 | dondelelcaro | beoba: that's not useful at all; please answer the questions if you want assistance. |
| 22:07.55 | dondelelcaro | providing the full and complete output of your aptitude run would also be useful |
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| 22:08.11 | beoba | dondelelcaro: that's difficult to perform as its not on the same computer as this window |
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| 22:08.32 | beoba | i'll give you an idea: |
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| 22:08.45 | beoba | picture loading aptitude and scrolling through the packages |
| 22:08.52 | dondelelcaro | beoba: so kick it to a file, and use a paste site to paste the otuput. |
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| 22:09.06 | beoba | okay, now picture all of those packages saying WARNING: THIS VERSION OF XXX IS FROM AN UNTRUSTED SOURCE! |
| 22:09.12 | beoba | that's about all that needs to be said |
| 22:09.14 | beoba | because that's what its doing |
| 22:09.17 | hjubal | bye |
| 22:09.28 | beoba | and since i cant give you anything beyond symptoms, that's all you're going to get |
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| 22:09.31 | dondelelcaro | beoba: no, it's not because I need to know which source those packages are comming from, and what the key id is that it's complaining about. |
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| 22:09.57 | beoba | the repository svr is debian.lcs.mit.edu |
| 22:10.00 | beoba | if that's what you mean |
| 22:10.05 | sasas | how do i check if the cpu has ht enabled? |
| 22:10.14 | dondelelcaro | sasas: cat /proc/cpuinfo; |
| 22:10.25 | dondelelcaro | beoba: and what is the output from aptitude update; |
| 22:10.47 | alkalineX | i hate it when people do that crap |
| 22:10.49 | beoba | fetched 132kb in 2s |
| 22:10.55 | sasas | dondelelcaro: and check ht is present in flags section? |
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| 22:11.21 | dondelelcaro | sasas: yes; you should also see multiple processors if the box actually has ht working (and isn't already smp) |
| 22:11.30 | beoba | there, looks like an update after reinstalliing the keys package got it |
| 22:11.36 | rmbrain | Why can't Firefox print as if it was any other app in the system? I am using cups and my printer works just fine with all other programs, exceptions of Firefox. Nothing happens when I attempt to print. Can someone please help me? |
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| 22:12.40 | sasas | dondelelcaro: cpuinfo shows only one processor and kernel is 2.6.9-34.0.1.ELsmp |
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| 22:13.20 | dondelelcaro | sasas: if you see ht, then presumably it has ht available; you may not have the right kernel options enabled to get it working though. |
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| 22:14.42 | sasas | ok |
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| 22:15.12 | itchi | (4) read the fscking manual. Of the "/msg dpkg unix lessons", what mean the word 'fscking' here? |
| 22:15.58 | itchi | f*cking?? |
| 22:16.16 | zenit | itchi: what do you think? |
| 22:16.17 | Bertram | yep |
| 22:16.36 | Bertram | rtfm : greatly known in the programming world |
| 22:16.48 | itchi | zenit: Like i have tell, but i guess it's writed otherwise :-/ |
| 22:16.59 | dondelelcaro | it's both a replacement and a joke. man fsck. |
| 22:17.27 | b1rken | Whats the command to delete a folder with content? |
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| 22:17.38 | dondelelcaro | b1rken: rm -rf |
| 22:17.58 | itchi | Thanks guy :-) |
| 22:18.41 | b1rken | Ahh. But i have installed some wm`s, and a gdm. Now i cant get back to the terminal. The gdm is just booting up. Someone know what i can do? |
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| 22:18.56 | dondelelcaro | b1rken: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 22:18.59 | b1rken | Sorry for asking all these questions today. First time trying a Linux distro :) |
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| 22:19.06 | itchi | I note somethings like 'the biiieeeep of manual' (in Dutch) :-) |
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| 22:19.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell b1rken -about debian reference |
| 22:19.58 | dondelelcaro | b1rken: that'll help you get started so you won't have to ask the basic questions |
| 22:19.58 | abrotman | and grounding! |
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| 22:21.18 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
| 22:21.22 | Bertram | hi |
| 22:21.45 | solemnwarning | Can CUPS be used used as a print server for both *nix and winshite? |
| 22:22.26 | b1rken | Thanks alot dondelelcaro :):):) |
| 22:22.34 | abrotman | solemnwarning: i believe so |
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| 22:22.44 | Bertram | you'll have to use it in conjonction with samba, am I right ? |
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| 22:23.08 | jjazz | solemnwarning: Yes. I do so. |
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| 22:23.17 | solemnwarning | So other the resorting to LPR I can't drop samba print sharing? |
| 22:24.31 | abrotman | Bertram: i don't think so |
| 22:24.31 | jjazz | solemnwarning: I don't use samba for that, I don't think. I use IPP. |
| 22:24.31 | solemnwarning | IPP? |
| 22:24.36 | Bertram | ah yes, IPP, I forgot about it |
| 22:24.38 | solemnwarning | Thats the protocol CUPS uses for a print server? |
| 22:24.41 | jjazz | Internet Printing Protocol |
| 22:24.59 | jjazz | solemnwarning: yes. |
| 22:25.08 | solemnwarning | So I can make cups run an IPP print server for both *nix and win32? |
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| 22:25.33 | jjazz | solemnwarning: I do it. Been a while since I set it up, but as I recall, that's the setup. |
| 22:25.39 | solemnwarning | Ok then :) |
| 22:25.45 | abrotman | isn't this in the docs? |
| 22:25.45 | jjazz | :) |
| 22:25.58 | solemnwarning | What kind of auth does IPP use, user/pass like smb, or address like NFS? |
| 22:26.23 | jjazz | abrotman: There are docs for sharing a printer with win boxes, but almost all of them recommend samba, which is not the easiest thing to setup. |
| 22:26.39 | solemnwarning | I already have smb running for my printer |
| 22:26.47 | solemnwarning | Setting up a samba server is easy IMO |
| 22:26.50 | jjazz | solemnwarning: I don't recall. |
| 22:27.03 | jjazz | solemnwarning: The permissions can be a pain, as is the syncing of passwords. |
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| 22:27.06 | solemnwarning | But making a *nix system use the samba printer is a pain in the ass, so I want to use somthing else |
| 22:27.40 | jjazz | solemnwarning: There are docs on linux printer sharing. |
| 22:28.06 | jjazz | solemnwarning: If you have the win portion already solved, the *nix part is easy |
| 22:28.06 | abrotman | cups.org .. linuxprinting.org |
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| 22:28.23 | abrotman | jjazz: ready to lose to florida? :) |
| 22:28.39 | Bertram | a match ? |
| 22:28.50 | jjazz | abrotman: I just got cable this afternoon. Mmmm.... pause live TV... |
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| 22:29.02 | abrotman | jjazz: shuldn't you be .. like .. at the game? |
| 22:29.28 | jjazz | abrotman: I share tickets with other people, so no, not tonight. |
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| 22:29.38 | abrotman | jjazz: oh .. i didn't know that |
| 22:30.20 | stoned | abrotman, hi |
| 22:30.31 | abrotman | stoned: hey |
| 22:30.34 | stoned | im drunk |
| 22:30.43 | stoned | how are you |
| 22:30.43 | dpkg | stoned: peachy |
| 22:30.44 | aptitude | just great, stoned |
| 22:30.44 | jjazz | stoned: And your nick is wrong. |
| 22:31.29 | stoned | still can't find anyway to copy/paste between two running X |
| 22:31.39 | stoned | someone mentioned klipper and dcop |
| 22:31.50 | stoned | I dunno what to do with those |
| 22:32.28 | jjazz | Why are you running > 1 X? |
| 22:32.32 | kronoz | is there a problem with xserver-xorg in testing? |
| 22:32.45 | kronoz | i can't seem to make it start... |
| 22:32.52 | abrotman | jjazz: at least i get to watch it since bosox are playing phillies |
| 22:33.00 | abrotman | kronoz: we need more details |
| 22:33.26 | ktwilight | kronoz, search for xorg69to7 in wiki.debian.org :) |
| 22:33.34 | kronoz | abrotman: yeah i know, i'm uploading them to paste |
| 22:33.39 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 22:33.53 | psychonate | I'm getting artifacts when watching Apple's trailers from their website via mplayer-plugin in firefox. I suppose it might be something with w32codecs though. Anyone else have an issue like that? |
| 22:33.58 | kronoz | ktwilight, i'm not upgrading, just installed from the etch beta 2 installer |
| 22:34.12 | ktwilight | oh right... |
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| 22:36.44 | kronoz | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2923 |
| 22:37.25 | abrotman | kronoz: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7?highlight=%28xorg69to7%29#head-fdbbfad9b02233b11ba1572a631827697766afc4 |
| 22:39.00 | tarzeau | wm soccer SUCKS! |
| 22:39.17 | syst3m_f4ult | ;p |
| 22:39.19 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 22:39.21 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 22:39.22 | kronoz | thanks |
| 22:39.50 | aredhel | stoned, when I had two computers next to each other I used x2x which will propagate the X selection. |
| 22:39.52 | kronoz | tarzeau: 'soccer' is really called 'football' :p |
| 22:40.01 | tarzeau | kronoz: whatever, it sucks |
| 22:40.07 | stoned | x2x hmm |
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| 22:40.59 | cureless | does anybody here use xerces with mzXML2Other? (I'll be amazed if somebody does) |
| 22:41.07 | stoned | aredhel, I only require the shared clipboard |
| 22:41.24 | abrotman | cureless: every day |
| 22:41.32 | cureless | abrotman: I knew you would. |
| 22:41.36 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:41.45 | stoned | aredhel, I run two X instances on 1 machine. :0 is local deskop, and :1 is remote desktop/kde session imported with -query laptop |
| 22:42.20 | cureless | I'm troubleshooting some segfault on mzXML2Other but it's a pain. I'm ready to blame in on g++ |
| 22:43.08 | stoned | dcop --user stoned --session .DCOPserver_desktop__1 klipper klipper getKlipperContents however works |
| 22:43.48 | itchi | stoned: So with an old laptop, hoe goes many faster ?? |
| 22:43.51 | stoned | so using dcop I can but I wanted sometning like a simple shared buffer, or a network aware clipboard |
| 22:44.02 | bnovc | how can i get a list of all screens for all users?? |
| 22:44.25 | bnovc | i was hoping to resume a screen that another user created |
| 22:44.37 | itchi | s/hoe/he :-/ |
| 22:44.51 | stoned | what? |
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| 22:45.42 | itchi | stoned: You tip are very interesting, so you run an 2 x session on you're main computer and one is for an /slow/ laptop. So that you sit like on you're computer and he goes a bit faster? |
| 22:46.02 | stoned | itchi, ehh not really |
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| 22:46.16 | itchi | Have you got my decoder ?? :-p |
| 22:46.45 | stoned | itchi, I run java intensive and compiler work on laptop, and I don't want that stuff loaded up on my laptop, so it runs on laptop, but it displays on desktop |
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| 22:47.47 | itchi | stoned: hhhmmm, i was thinking to somethings others ;-) |
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| 22:48.18 | itchi | My diabolic English CD rom not work with wine :-/ |
| 22:48.19 | stoned | my laptop specs are, 512 mb ram, 1.8ghz p4, 32mb onboard intel gfx |
| 22:48.35 | stoned | the only problem is, it runs ubuntu on it |
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| 22:48.39 | stoned | and the screen is broken |
| 22:48.48 | stoned | and I can't hook up a monitor, so I can't intall fuckin debian |
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| 22:48.51 | stoned | :( |
| 22:48.56 | itchi | stoned: That's an fast one, if i look to the mine of 300Mhz and 128 MB RAM |
| 22:49.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: got a new package for you! |
| 22:49.34 | stoned | itchi, I ran 4 years on 25mhz, 4mb ram, 80mb hdd, compuadd laptop from 1992 :) |
| 22:49.55 | Maulkin | stoned: Screen is broken != can't install debian :) |
| 22:50.02 | itchi | stoned: There are some laptops that have an life guarantee for the screen, i not remember wich brand, but depend if you shoot with you're feet the screen :-/ |
| 22:50.07 | cureless | stoned: why don't you take the drive out, install debian on some other laptop or external drive, voila! |
| 22:50.11 | thingfish | man that's near the specs for my first mac. |
| 22:50.16 | stoned | Maulkin, can't hook up an external monitor, laptop keys are smashed |
| 22:50.25 | Maulkin | stoned: And? |
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| 22:50.45 | stoned | Maulkin, how do I install debian on it then? I am not much tech savvy with debootstrap |
| 22:50.49 | Maulkin | stoned: ssh install, serial install, netboot install, remote install... |
| 22:50.55 | Stevie-O | stoned: that's a total of 3,155,760,000 million clock cycles (if the machine was run nonstop). |
| 22:50.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: which? |
| 22:50.59 | Maulkin | There's a few options :) |
| 22:51.08 | stoned | Maulkin, I did not know those, you are the man |
| 22:51.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/ |
| 22:51.12 | stoned | or the woman, whichever it maybe |
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| 22:51.23 | stoned | ssh install seems interesting |
| 22:51.25 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't have it, i can't test it |
| 22:51.26 | itchi | stoned: Like cureless told you, take that HDD |
| 22:51.28 | stoned | i hope it is in the debian installer |
| 22:51.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: neither can i! |
| 22:51.38 | stoned | doc i mean |
| 22:51.44 | Maulkin | stoned: My Cobalt Qube doesn't have VGA out at all. But I managed to install it :) |
| 22:51.45 | stoned | debian installation guide* |
| 22:51.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you say "angelina jolie fucks good" if you never fucked her? |
| 22:52.01 | stoned | tarzeau, yes |
| 22:52.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: (or she cooks good, or blows well or whatever?) |
| 22:52.09 | stoned | because it would be true no matter what |
| 22:52.10 | abrotman | Maulkin: oh .. only DVI .. poor you :) |
| 22:52.10 | thingfish | oh now that's crude. |
| 22:52.11 | stoned | hehe |
| 22:52.13 | Maulkin | erm... |
| 22:52.15 | cureless | tarzeau: can you say the sun burns if you've never touched it? |
| 22:52.17 | tarzeau | stoned: i can't unless you bring her here and i test her |
| 22:52.20 | abrotman | Maulkin: i'm joking! |
| 22:52.20 | stoned | lol |
| 22:52.22 | stoned | anyway |
| 22:52.29 | Maulkin | tarzeau / abrotman : Topic please... |
| 22:52.34 | tarzeau | cureless: i can throw items at your direction |
| 22:52.39 | tarzeau | Maulkin: man!!! IT'S WEEKEND |
| 22:52.46 | abrotman | Maulkin: what .. i asked him to package something .. |
| 22:52.47 | Maulkin | tarzeau: #debian-offtopic |
| 22:52.48 | itchi | tarzeau: She is classed the beautifullest wife of the world :-/ i can not believe it :-/ |
| 22:52.52 | tarzeau | Maulkin: this is not the official #debian anymore |
| 22:53.00 | cureless | tarzeau: are those objects Angelina Jolies? |
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| 22:53.03 | tarzeau | itchi: that's "most beautiful" |
| 22:53.08 | sasas | dondelelcaro: CONFIG_SMP=y CONFIG_X86_SMP=y CONFIG_SCHED_SMT=y |
| 22:53.11 | tarzeau | itchi: she's married? |
| 22:53.20 | itchi | tarzeau: With you :-p |
| 22:53.26 | Maulkin | tarzeau: Sorry, can't parse that |
| 22:53.33 | sasas | dondelelcaro: i have enbaled this in the kernel still it shows only one cpu |
| 22:53.45 | tarzeau | Maulkin: neither can i parse you |
| 22:53.49 | stoned | Maulkin, section 5 of i386 deb install manual only mentions a few of the above mentiond ways to install debian |
| 22:53.54 | abrotman | Maulkin: it's a driver for a device i don't have .. and neither does he |
| 22:53.54 | tarzeau | Maulkin: topic please, you're missing the verb |
| 22:53.59 | sasas | dondelelcaro: kernel is 2.6.9-34.0.1.ELsmp |
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| 22:54.10 | thingfish | tsk |
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| 22:54.25 | grdngnome | i'm trying to configure debian networking and in etc/init.d i ran networking and ifupdown but i haven't run ifconfig looking at howto instructions. i hope to work this weekend to configure networking proper. |
| 22:54.25 | Maulkin | tarzeau: Please ensure you remain 'on topic' whilst talkin on the channel. |
| 22:54.36 | Maulkin | -h +g |
| 22:54.50 | tarzeau | Maulkin: or you will spank me? |
| 22:54.59 | stoned | tarzeau, upi |
| 22:55.02 | stoned | doh |
| 22:55.16 | stoned | wrong per son |
| 22:55.20 | stoned | my keyboard sucks |
| 22:55.26 | Maulkin | stoned: Yeah, you may need to google for others |
| 22:55.32 | stoned | Maulkin, oh I see |
| 22:55.34 | grdngnome | i'm emailing my uncle to help me with the problem as he introduced me to debian last year. |
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| 22:56.13 | itchi | !tell grdngnome -about networking |
| 22:56.20 | abrotman | Maulkin: are there docs about packaging something using m-a ? |
| 22:56.29 | Maulkin | m-a ? |
| 22:56.38 | Maulkin | modules-assistant? |
| 22:56.39 | cureless | module-assistant |
| 22:56.39 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 22:56.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 22:56.49 | abrotman | is there anything different about it ? |
| 22:56.54 | itchi | grdngnome: Look to these links, i hope it help you ;-) |
| 22:57.01 | Maulkin | abrotman: probably :) |
| 22:57.10 | abrotman | Maulkin: you're vague! |
| 22:57.22 | Stevie-O | bingo. wxPli_set_const( "wxRED", "Wx::Colour", new wxColour( *wxRED ) ); |
| 22:57.24 | Maulkin | abrotman: My suggestion is to download a package that uses it already |
| 22:57.38 | abrotman | Maulkin: eh .. ok |
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| 22:59.16 | arclithion | While updating gnopernicus, I got the error I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml" |
| 22:59.37 | grdngnome | thanks itchi i'm studying the tldp.org 6.1 networking help now |
| 22:59.44 | arclithion | Is this anything serious? Can I prevent it in the future? |
| 22:59.52 | itchi | grdngnome: ;-) |
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| 23:01.39 | tarzeau | Maulkin: don't msg me please |
| 23:01.52 | arclithion | Why does dpkg or the gnopernicus script think that my locale is (null)? |
| 23:02.02 | tarzeau | Maulkin: feel free to /ignore me |
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| 23:02.15 | Maulkin | tarzeau: Unfortunately, I can't. |
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| 23:02.43 | Maulkin | I'm just trying to pass on a friendly warning that such language isn't approriate. |
| 23:02.53 | tarzeau | fucking? |
| 23:03.11 | tarzeau | Maulkin: debian distributes source code where such language is used extensively |
| 23:03.14 | tarzeau | and shit too |
| 23:03.24 | tarzeau | Maulkin: i don't get why developers can use it, and users not |
| 23:03.25 | unix_infidel | is it possible to open up a saved state on visualboy advance for linux |
| 23:03.35 | itchi | !shit |
| 23:03.35 | dpkg | well, shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 23:03.39 | unix_infidel | the windows client has that capacity but i cant seem to get it working on vbaexpress or vba |
| 23:03.39 | abrotman | unix_infidel: google ? |
| 23:03.40 | itchi | hhhmmmm |
| 23:03.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: please leave his fucking keyboard |
| 23:03.48 | abrotman | !kingsleysmite tarzeau |
| 23:03.49 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer tarzeau: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.82420888319345! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 23:03.50 | Maulkin | tarzeau: Please stop |
| 23:03.52 | sng | What's the fucking fun if you can't fucking say fucking when you fucking need to say fucking? |
| 23:04.14 | Maulkin | It's not the words, the subject. Bear in mind that anyone, of any age can view this channel. |
| 23:04.16 | itchi | go go go (back) |
| 23:04.24 | kronoz | hi, i can't get debian to boot properly now ... it just shows 'sd device recognised at bus id *:*:* and doesn't do anything more http://channels.debian.net/paste/2924 |
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| 23:04.37 | as_df | hey does anyone know german |
| 23:04.41 | kronoz | ctrl=c does nothing either |
| 23:04.43 | tarzeau | !de |
| 23:04.43 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.freenode.net und irc.oftc.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on freenode and irc.oftc.net) |
| 23:04.46 | abrotman | as_df: #debian.de |
| 23:04.52 | kronoz | as_df: #kanotix do also |
| 23:05.05 | as_df | danke |
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| 23:05.29 | tarzeau | Maulkin: you know fucking is not a crime? |
| 23:06.02 | Maulkin | tarzeau: It can be, depending on age. |
| 23:06.02 | tarzeau | Maulkin: it'd rather be good if you could just make sure young people who might be here protect themselves |
| 23:06.05 | itchi | kronoz: Have it work before ? |
| 23:06.13 | tarzeau | Maulkin: depending on country too |
| 23:06.14 | kronoz | itchi, yes |
| 23:06.34 | stew | tarzeau: can you please just drop it and keep it on topic |
| 23:06.35 | kronoz | itchi, it worked the first time i booted it after installation |
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| 23:06.55 | itchi | kronoz: Is the module been loaded ? |
| 23:07.15 | grdngnome | ok I'm excited to hear from my uncle in response. thanks for year help freenode debian as i meander back to my more common freenode #allegro :P |
| 23:07.19 | kronoz | itchi, what module? not that i know of... |
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| 23:08.05 | itchi | !tell kronoz -about usb-storage |
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| 23:08.54 | ed-209 | heya... they told me to come in here and ask a question, any question |
| 23:08.58 | kronoz | itchi, how can i do that if i cannot boot the system into a terminal |
| 23:09.00 | PhinnFort | hi ed-209 |
| 23:09.06 | stew | ed-209: ask any question that is related to debian |
| 23:09.06 | PhinnFort | Igor |
| 23:09.10 | ed-209 | they said that I'd find the results amusing.. is this true? <--- my question |
| 23:09.17 | arclithion | Anyone here having problems with gpass lately (and know how to solve them)? |
| 23:09.20 | itchi | kronoz: Fx to another VT?? |
| 23:09.39 | itchi | kronoz: Tell me if you need my decoder :-p |
| 23:09.48 | stew | ed-209: do you have anything debian related or are you just here to troll? |
| 23:09.57 | kronoz | itchi, that is alt+f1 or f2 or f*? |
| 23:10.01 | PhinnFort | i know about trolls |
| 23:10.05 | ed-209 | well actually heh |
| 23:10.23 | itchi | kronoz: Right Depending if your in X or not |
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| 23:10.33 | amphi | ed-209: who told you this? |
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| 23:10.50 | ed-209 | other folks who came in here for help, amphi |
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| 23:10.57 | ed-209 | I'm not gonna name names so you can go after 'em |
| 23:11.10 | dondelelcaro | ed-209: please either ask a question or go elsewhere. |
| 23:11.14 | amphi | ed-209: wasn't looking for names |
| 23:11.14 | kronoz | itchi, i'm not in X, i cannot get x to work atm -_-. will try |
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| 23:12.38 | ed-209 | eewww |
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| 23:16.46 | kronoz | itchi, that doesn't work :( |
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| 23:17.27 | itchi | kronoz: Sad news :-/ Which type file system is it? |
| 23:17.55 | kronoz | itchi: resierfs |
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| 23:18.53 | sandman | Jun 23 17:48:00 localhost kernel: Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'as', page c132cae0) |
| 23:19.18 | itchi | kronoz: I think that not all usb keys support all filesystems, but im not sure :-/ |
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| 23:19.37 | sandman | It says it's trying to clean it up, but a reboot is needed. I'm gathering that this has to do with RAM. Is there a way I can scan RAM and map out bad portions of it, so I can still use the good parts? |
| 23:19.39 | kronoz | itchi: reiserfsprogs got installed when i was installing xorg+kde |
| 23:19.56 | rockstar_ | I'm reinstalling Debian on my laptop, and want to encrypt my hard drive. I'm at the partitioning state... Where do I select to encrypt the drive? |
| 23:19.58 | itchi | kronoz: So that not the problem then |
| 23:20.15 | Stevie-O | HAHA! Uncle Benny (from LW4) is on L&O Criminal Intent |
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| 23:20.37 | amphi | Stevie-O: pardon? |
| 23:20.57 | abrotman | Lethal Weapon 4 |
| 23:21.25 | dvs | Riggs! Riggs! |
| 23:21.30 | cureless | can you say -offtopic? |
| 23:21.32 | itchi | aloaaaa |
| 23:21.39 | amphi | ah... I've not seen |
| 23:21.43 | Ronin | cureless: yep offtopic ;) |
| 23:21.57 | Ronin | couldnt resist it |
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| 23:22.57 | itchi | kronoz: He not tell more ?? Look a bit to the output of dmesg ?? |
| 23:23.27 | itchi | kronoz: It's on this computer who you're curently on ? |
| 23:23.35 | kronoz | yes |
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| 23:23.38 | itchi | s/who/where |
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| 23:23.45 | kronoz | dualboot suse/debian |
| 23:24.03 | Gnurdux | I have a question about TightVNCServer: why don't you just take the old package, change its deps, and put it back into testing? |
| 23:24.06 | rockstar_ | No one knows anything about encrypted hard drives? |
| 23:24.32 | itchi | kronoz: It's Debian you install on it? I mean not DSL ? |
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| 23:24.45 | kronoz | itchi, debian etch beta 2 installer |
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| 23:24.54 | cureless | I really hate C++... why can people just program in C |
| 23:25.15 | arclithion | because we want object-orientedness |
| 23:25.16 | rockstar_ | cureless, I really hate C... why can't people just program in C++ |
| 23:25.21 | abrotman | cureless: no overloading? :) |
| 23:25.22 | dvs | cureless: because people are smart |
| 23:25.43 | Tomze | hate is a waste of time |
| 23:25.43 | cureless | how do you debug C++? |
| 23:25.43 | Gnurdux | rockstar_, i agreee |
| 23:25.43 | dvs | cureless: I use dbx |
| 23:25.43 | Gnurdux | cureless, same way you debug C |
| 23:25.44 | arclithion | Know what I'd like to see? A native compiler for Python |
| 23:25.49 | Gnurdux | arclithion, heh |
| 23:25.51 | cureless | Gnurdux: right... |
| 23:26.22 | Gnurdux | arclithion, id like to see a Ruby compiler |
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| 23:26.48 | stew | Gnurdux: a friend of mine wrote an native ruby compiler extension to gcc for a grad school project |
| 23:27.01 | Gnurdux | stew, you serious/ |
| 23:27.06 | Gnurdux | is it publicly available? |
| 23:27.20 | stew | Gnurdux: arclithion: however you sanely compile code for an "eval" statement |
| 23:27.21 | kronoz | itchi: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2925 |
| 23:27.24 | rockstar_ | cureless, if you get familiar with gdb, debugging gets a whole lot easier, but you have to be REALLY FAMILIAR with it... like, sleep with it. |
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| 23:27.48 | stew | Gnurdux: dunno, i should ask him, they only did a subset of the language (becuase of problems like "eval") |
| 23:28.05 | Gnurdux | stew, ah, yes i could see that causing problems |
| 23:28.16 | Tuborgn | having a little bit of problems with samba. It was working for a while and now I get this "you may not have permission to access this" error when I try and connect to the samba |
| 23:28.27 | cureless | rockstar_: I don't sleep with gdb but I can use gdb. It's just this C++ code that wants to confuse me by segfaulting in "sout << some_int" |
| 23:28.46 | Gnurdux | whats sout? |
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| 23:29.02 | Gnurdux | do you perhaps mean cout? |
| 23:29.09 | cureless | a stringstream |
| 23:29.09 | Gnurdux | could you perhaps pastebin the code? |
| 23:29.18 | cureless | sure, 1 sec |
| 23:29.24 | Gnurdux | cureless, ah, so: ostrstream sout; ? |
| 23:29.36 | cureless | std::stringstream sout; |
| 23:29.40 | abrotman | cureless: wait .. you're trying to use a string command on an int? |
| 23:29.43 | Gnurdux | hmm |
| 23:29.51 | Gnurdux | abrotman, no, hes not |
| 23:29.54 | cureless | I'm not using anything, it's not my code |
| 23:29.56 | Gnurdux | cureless, try ostringstream |
| 23:30.06 | abrotman | oh .. it doesn't take a string as an argument ? |
| 23:30.11 | Gnurdux | first pastebin the code |
| 23:30.16 | cureless | yes, 1 sec |
| 23:30.56 | abrotman | eh .. m-a is scary |
| 23:31.05 | itchi | kronoz: There are multiples USB storage devices connected to that box ? |
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| 23:31.27 | nekostar | eh |
| 23:31.39 | nekostar | would anyone have a good guide to compiling pure-ftpd ? |
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| 23:31.52 | nekostar | ive tried it by the books and its not been working well at all |
| 23:31.58 | nekostar | i need --with-largefile supprt |
| 23:31.59 | abrotman | nekostar: cmpiling? |
| 23:32.01 | stew | nekostar: why compile it instead of using debian pacakges? or are you trying to compile the debian packge? |
| 23:32.04 | nekostar | *compiling sorry |
| 23:32.05 | abrotman | nekostar: use another ftpd? |
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| 23:32.25 | nekostar | abrotman, everything else about it is real smooth so i like it a lot. |
| 23:32.29 | itchi | kronoz: Counting from the bottom, 11 lines back |
| 23:32.31 | stew | nekostar: /msg dpkg debian/rules ; /msg dpkg source |
| 23:32.34 | aisotton_ | Is anybody else getting this error for apt-get update on etch: |
| 23:32.34 | aisotton_ | GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 23:32.37 | abrotman | nekostar: grab the source package .. change the rules file |
| 23:32.40 | Gnurdux | cureless ? |
| 23:32.48 | abrotman | BADSIG! |
| 23:32.53 | kronoz | itchi, sd slots, MMC/SD, SmartMedia, CompactFlash, and a usb + MS/MS Pro |
| 23:32.54 | nekostar | but do you know of another one thats not too hard to config virtual users that has largefile support ? |
| 23:32.55 | cureless | Gnurdux: waiting for pastebin do do stuff |
| 23:32.57 | stew | abrotman: "/msg dpkg 2006 key" (from the /topic) |
| 23:33.02 | stew | aisotton_: ^^^ |
| 23:33.02 | Gnurdux | cureless, what pastebin? |
| 23:33.06 | Gnurdux | .ca, .com? |
| 23:33.14 | cureless | .com |
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| 23:33.17 | stew | not .com |
| 23:33.30 | aisotton_ | stew: I have the 2006 key installed. It's been working for months, but stopped a few days ago. |
| 23:33.39 | cureless | no wonder... hehe |
| 23:33.48 | abrotman | aisotton_: i think the key for security.debian.org is different |
| 23:33.51 | itchi | kronoz: Can you easy unplug that device for test ? |
| 23:34.04 | cureless | http://pastebin.ca/70260 <--- c++ |
| 23:34.07 | stew | cureless: oh i'm not sure what your were talking about, but seeing pastebin.com makes me cringe, its been so slow |
| 23:34.16 | kronoz | itchi, no i can't, they are fixed on |
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| 23:34.36 | kronoz | itchi, there is no usb key in the box |
| 23:34.43 | Gnurdux | cureless, where did you get the code, and where does it segfault? |
| 23:35.14 | cureless | segfaults in 22, the code is from mzXML2Other, a tool to parse mass-spectrometer XML data |
| 23:35.31 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 23:35.35 | abrotman | cureless: what's the error ? |
| 23:35.37 | Gnurdux | wierd |
| 23:35.41 | dvs | cureless: its std::ostringstream |
| 23:35.43 | Gnurdux | abrotman, a segfault |
| 23:35.47 | Gnurdux | dvs, no its not |
| 23:35.52 | Gnurdux | this is a 2-way stream |
| 23:36.00 | Gnurdux | see this part: # |
| 23:36.00 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.00 | Gnurdux | # |
| 23:36.00 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:36.10 | aisotton_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 23:36.12 | Gnurdux | crap i always forget about those #s |
| 23:36.20 | abrotman | aisotton_: i might be wrong |
| 23:36.44 | abrotman | Maulkin: did the key change for security.d.o ? |
| 23:36.46 | astronut | where'd marillats archive go? |
| 23:36.48 | Gnurdux | wait |
| 23:36.54 | itchi | kronoz: I not know what i could be are :-( |
| 23:36.59 | astronut | !maraillat |
| 23:36.59 | abrotman | astronut: like .. multimedia.debian.net or some crap |
| 23:37.05 | abrotman | !tell astronut about marillat |
| 23:37.09 | Gnurdux | cureless, i dunno the problem |
| 23:37.17 | Gnurdux | i haven't played with stringstreams much |
| 23:37.22 | Tuborgn | having a little bit of problems with samba. It was working for a while and now I get this "you may not have permission to access this" error when I try and connect. Is it always this wonky? |
| 23:37.26 | Gnurdux | probably written for m$ compiler? |
| 23:37.27 | astronut | thanks abrotman |
| 23:37.32 | nekostar | run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot <<--- thats correct? not run dpkg-buildpackage -r fakeroot ?? |
| 23:37.35 | nekostar | o: |
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| 23:37.42 | abrotman | astronut: eh .. that wasn't it |
| 23:37.51 | cureless | Gnurdux: tell me about it. It has to do with some data or some other problem somewhere else, because the code processes about a gig of data before it segfaults. So chances are some pointer somewhere is getting hosed. |
| 23:37.54 | nekostar | btw thx abrotman as usual and stew :) |
| 23:38.00 | astronut | abrotman: eh, yes it was |
| 23:38.04 | abrotman | astronut: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 23:38.05 | Gnurdux | ahh |
| 23:38.08 | abrotman | nekostar: enjoy |
| 23:38.10 | nekostar | abrotman, are you gonna try to hold down this chan and the new deb network ? |
| 23:38.14 | Gnurdux | cureless, so that code gets run before the segfault? |
| 23:38.16 | abrotman | stew: psst .. what did we help with? |
| 23:38.18 | Gnurdux | thats really wierd |
| 23:38.24 | nekostar | pure-ftpd silly lol |
| 23:38.24 | abrotman | nekostar: i'll explode :) |
| 23:38.27 | abrotman | oh yeah :) |
| 23:38.27 | nekostar | o: |
| 23:38.35 | nekostar | ive been thinking of adding that to my list |
| 23:38.46 | abrotman | exploding? |
| 23:38.48 | nekostar | is there a link somewhere talking about why they split from freenode or anythign ?? |
| 23:38.56 | abrotman | !tell nekostar about oftc move |
| 23:38.56 | nekostar | exploding would be kewl |
| 23:38.58 | itchi | argh fuck, theres an big shit bug flying around :-) kill big bug ?? |
| 23:38.59 | nekostar | :D |
| 23:39.09 | cureless | Gnurdux: I assume so, but I should probably check... I don't think I'm going to solve this. I'm not familiar with the software at all, I was just wondering if I could troubleshoot it for a friend. |
| 23:39.16 | astronut | abrotman: the !tell one worked fine |
| 23:39.21 | abrotman | cureless: ask ##c ? |
| 23:39.25 | abrotman | astronut: oh ok |
| 23:39.37 | Gnurdux | abrotman, you mean ##c++ |
| 23:39.43 | itchi | I got him :-p |
| 23:39.45 | nekostar | http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg0033 <<--- 404 not found lol |
| 23:39.45 | abrotman | whatever .. i thought they merged |
| 23:39.56 | cureless | something tells me it's related to the data, and I don't think I want to send 2 Gig files around and 2nd, they're probably not public domain. |
| 23:39.59 | abrotman | nekostar: eh . you forgot the .html |
| 23:39.59 | astronut | why didn't !m... work? |
| 23:40.06 | itchi | eeeiii, my cat eat him :-/ |
| 23:40.09 | abrotman | nekostar: oh .. i see |
| 23:40.25 | nekostar | collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault] // make[4]: *** [example_write] Error 1 |
| 23:40.33 | abrotman | nekostar: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 23:40.41 | amphi | itchi: heh |
| 23:41.06 | nekostar | ah that works thanx |
| 23:41.11 | nekostar | wonder what that error was though :/ |
| 23:41.24 | itchi | amphi: I have an electric thing to kill bug/insects :-p |
| 23:42.14 | amphi | itchi: an insectocutor(tm)? |
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| 23:44.33 | itchi | amphi: It's an HGX exterminator, noted on the front of it. I not know how we call it. When you press on an button and you touch where you not must, you got an electric choc. Cooool :-) If you take it near you're head, the hair moves ... |
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| 23:45.55 | itchi | urrrh, is that the raison why i have not many hair on my head ?? :-/ |
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| 23:47.49 | nekostar | lol |
| 23:47.51 | nekostar | abrotman, |
| 23:47.58 | nekostar | it seems to come down to private mssging |
| 23:48.01 | nekostar | ........................................ |
| 23:48.42 | amphi | itchi: insects don't bother me over much |
| 23:49.39 | itchi | amphi: It's was an shit bug :-) make noise :-/ and flying around my head ... |
| 23:49.47 | abrotman | nekostar: i didn't make the decision .. i don't have a problem with NOIDPRIVMSG or whatever thing it is .. but i'm not a DD . .i don't count :) |
| 23:50.15 | nekostar | in any case i cant seem to compile due to :: collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault] // make[4]: *** [example_write] Error 1 // .... // http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg0033 |
| 23:50.21 | itchi | amphi: An big, i not live in an big city, and some things are here many bigger than in an city |
| 23:50.46 | nekostar | lol abrotman either way its kewl i should prolly add that net in for a while and see what happens :) |
| 23:50.53 | amphi | itchi: noise, eh? ;) I have many large moths around ATM |
| 23:50.58 | abrotman | nekostar: you could |
| 23:51.02 | nekostar | any clue why i would get that ld error ? |
| 23:51.13 | itchi | amphi: hehe |
| 23:51.15 | abrotman | !sig11 |
| 23:51.15 | dpkg | hmm... sig11 is Process Signal 11, SEGV (Segment Violation or Segmentation Fault). The program has been smacked down by the kernel for accessing memory outside its segment; indicates a bug in the software, or, with memory-intensive software like gcc, may indicate failing RAM. See the Sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
| 23:51.26 | nekostar | google suggessted under another thing here.. *gets it* The linker also tends to sigfault when it gets an object file it does |
| 23:51.26 | nekostar | not understand, eg an x86 object file mixed in with your powerpc |
| 23:51.26 | nekostar | files. I suppose it might also not like an object file from the |
| 23:51.26 | nekostar | VxWorks build |
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| 23:52.11 | nekostar | :/ |
| 23:52.15 | nekostar | very sorry ..... |
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| 23:54.34 | stew | abrotman: probably elive |
| 23:54.56 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:55.10 | some_dude | hi |
| 23:55.25 | some_dude | I want to chroot my user in ~ |
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| 23:57.23 | stew | some_dude: /msg dpkg chroot ssh |
| 23:57.35 | some_dude | it's ftp |
| 23:57.46 | some_dude | but I bet it's the same |
| 23:58.04 | stew | some_dude: no ftp is much saner. your ftp server should have that as an option |
| 23:58.27 | some_dude | i JUST found it |
| 23:58.28 | some_dude | thanks |
| 23:59.08 | nekostar | lol |
| 23:59.12 | nekostar | what ftpd some_dude |