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| 00:05.46 | twb | On upgrading mdadm, I got this: |
| 00:05.47 | twb | "WARNING! If you are using hard disks which have a md superblock from an earlier installation in a different RAID array, you MUST zero the superblock before activating the autostart feature." |
| 00:05.47 | twb | "To do this, do not start the RAID devices automatically. First, zero the superblock (mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/mdX). Next, use `dpkg-reconfigure mdadm` to reactivate the autostart feature." |
| 00:05.47 | twb | My root (/) partition is a RAID-1 partition. What do I do? |
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| 00:07.03 | itchi | saintshakajin: Hello |
| 00:07.06 | stew | <twb>... What do I do? |
| 00:07.08 | stew | make a backup :) |
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| 00:07.55 | saintshakajin | hello :) |
| 00:08.08 | twb | On upgrading mdadm, I got this: "WARNING! If you are using hard disks which have a md superblock from an earlier installation in a different RAID array, you MUST zero the superblock before activating the autostart feature. To do this, do not start the RAID devices automatically. First, zero the superblock (mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/mdX). Next, use `dpkg-reconfigure mdadm` to reactivate the autostart feature." My root (/) partition is a RAID- |
| 00:08.09 | twb | 1 partition. What do I do? |
| 00:08.46 | stew | twb: the first i'd do is make a backup :) |
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| 00:09.06 | stew | blow-: please turn that off in here |
| 00:09.28 | twb | stew: it sounds like I need to reboot off one of the md devices, then run that command, then reboot again |
| 00:10.12 | stew | twb: i don't run software raid, i only heard of that stuff (the --zero-superblock) from someone who had managed to zero too much or too many or something and lost everything |
| 00:10.34 | twb | So does anybody know what the correct procedure is? |
| 00:11.01 | beetlepun_ | where does udev write to the system log? |
| 00:11.02 | stew | twb: see if there are any more clues in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* (NEWS.Debian?) |
| 00:11.10 | twb | stew: good idea, I'll do that. |
| 00:11.22 | itchi | twb: You must zero the superblock ... That would delete the whole thing ?? |
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| 00:13.55 | itchi | twb: Is it on Sarge ? |
| 00:14.04 | twb | Etch. |
| 00:14.23 | liable | twb: yeah, i would be looking for bugs before i did anything if you get this from upgrading mdadm |
| 00:15.09 | itchi | twb: Is it not safe to get the Sarge, i guess if you setup an RAID1, it's because ........... Personally i want somethings that not break, i not want loose data |
| 00:15.26 | liable | personally i think i would downgrade it again |
| 00:15.43 | twb | itchi: I can't parse that. "It is not safe to get the sarge"? |
| 00:15.52 | itchi | s/safe/saffest_or_somethings_right |
| 00:16.13 | itchi | twb: Yeah you need an special decode to understand my :-/ |
| 00:16.24 | itchi | ^^ look hehe |
| 00:17.39 | itchi | twb: I not understand why you have take Etch while you need somethings secure/safe for you're data. It's an RAID1, crazy to take Etch not ? |
| 00:18.02 | twb | It's my workstation. |
| 00:18.27 | twb | If it was a production machine, I'd buy hardware raid. |
| 00:18.41 | itchi | twb: Or an old computer ... |
| 00:18.50 | Gnea | twb: etch is extremely unstable right now, and will be for several more months. if you're worried about your data being properly secured, use sarge with backports to get newer versions of software. |
| 00:19.58 | itchi | twb: Have you not an old computer that you could transform to an soft RAID1. I have take an old here that only do that task |
| 00:20.12 | twb | itchi: that's great, wanna post it to me? :P |
| 00:20.18 | itchi | twb: 2 HDD of 80 GN |
| 00:21.05 | twb | Gnea: to be honest, this is the first time I've upgraded anything in *aaages* on that machine. |
| 00:21.24 | itchi | twb: You could buy one of the net cost 50 Euros, an old thing, but enought for that |
| 00:21.49 | twb | itchi: I don't have fifty euros. |
| 00:22.00 | TimeRider | anyone gimme help with an apt-get upgrade that failed? |
| 00:22.47 | itchi | TimeRider: Ask |
| 00:23.00 | twb | Oh, I think I understand the message now. |
| 00:23.07 | TimeRider | done some security updates today, hang on I'll paste what happened up somewhere.... |
| 00:23.24 | itchi | twb: Ol computer could have big hdd :-) |
| 00:23.26 | twb | It's saying "If you take apart an old RAID array, zero the superblock before putting it into a new RAID array" |
| 00:23.28 | itchi | argf |
| 00:23.36 | twb | And since I'm not doing that, everything is a-ok. |
| 00:24.39 | TimeRider | http://timerider.co.uk/apt.txt |
| 00:24.56 | TimeRider | there's what happened, courier services didn't update |
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| 00:25.06 | TimeRider | mail *seems* tobe still working...so far |
| 00:25.10 | twb | TimeRider: you've got a MTA running on port (20?) |
| 00:25.12 | solemnwarning | With microshite active directory servers DHCP will add DNS records for hosts it gives IP's to so that they always have an IP, can bind and dhcpd be configured the same way? |
| 00:25.20 | TimeRider | not as far as I know! |
| 00:25.25 | mdupont | omg, /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is eating up 12mb of my zope in lsof python2.3 8190 zope mem REG 8,3 16788640 137851 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is that needed all the time? can i not elimnate tons of locals that i dont need? |
| 00:25.39 | itchi | TimeRider: Starting Courier POP3 server:bind: Address already in use ?? |
| 00:25.41 | twb | TimeRider: kill off whatever MTA you have running, then issue /etc/init.d/couri* restart. |
| 00:26.03 | TimeRider | is it likely it'll mess anything up? if so willleave it till the morning? |
| 00:26.06 | simonrvn | pop3 isn't an mta's protocol |
| 00:26.22 | twb | simonrvn: OK, s/mta/pop3 server/. |
| 00:26.23 | TimeRider | using postfix and courier here |
| 00:26.39 | simonrvn | mda would be more accurate to say |
| 00:26.41 | TimeRider | so stop postfix yeah? |
| 00:26.52 | simonrvn | smtp != pop3 |
| 00:27.01 | twb | TimeRider: it's saying that two services (daemons) are fighting over a port. |
| 00:27.02 | simonrvn | 2 different things |
| 00:27.19 | TimeRider | probably the old version of courier, that has been replaced |
| 00:27.22 | twb | TimeRider: I'm not familiar with mail stuff, so I can't be more specific. |
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| 00:27.44 | stew | TimeRider: as root, run "netstat -plant | grep :110" which will tell you what is already bound to your pop3 port |
| 00:27.56 | TimeRider | good idea stew, thanks... |
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| 00:28.09 | simonrvn | postfix == smtp / mta ; courier s/w does pop3, imap, and smtp, but each is a different daemon |
| 00:28.10 | stew | TimeRider: do the same with :143 for imap4 |
| 00:28.25 | simonrvn | there ya go. that'll help |
| 00:28.36 | TimeRider | courier tcpd=110, same for 143 |
| 00:28.42 | TimeRider | couriertcpd that is |
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| 00:29.29 | simonrvn | so you need to stop them, or restart them, whatever you're trying to do there ... |
| 00:29.43 | TimeRider | looks like the update didn't stop courier-imap or courier-pop before upgrading |
| 00:29.56 | simonrvn | ...or, didn't succeed |
| 00:30.04 | simonrvn | in stopping them |
| 00:30.11 | TimeRider | restart fails with same errors |
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| 00:30.44 | stew | TimeRider: pkill couriertcpd |
| 00:31.06 | TimeRider | pkill? |
| 00:31.20 | simonrvn | stop first then, check (with netstat) then start. if that doesn't work, then you'll need to kill them (just plain kill, don't be brutal and use -9, you don't have to 99.99% of the time) |
| 00:31.38 | freeone3000 | What does dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy) mean? |
| 00:31.41 | TimeRider | :) |
| 00:31.51 | TimeRider | that fixed it stew |
| 00:31.54 | TimeRider | or seems to have |
| 00:32.21 | TimeRider | services started again anyway, how would I restart the deamon? |
| 00:32.25 | croddy | i have a stuck key. how can i find out which one it is? (it's not a letter or backspace or anything i've been able to figure out). xev lists KeymapNotify events, but i can't find a chart or list of these keycodes. |
| 00:32.48 | stew | TimeRider: /etc/init.d/courier-{pop,imap} restart |
| 00:33.00 | TimeRider | yeah |
| 00:33.02 | TimeRider | Ithought so |
| 00:33.11 | stew | croddy: xkeycaps would present a map for you |
| 00:33.18 | croddy | stew: thanks |
| 00:33.19 | TimeRider | checked with the netstat -plant 110 etc and is working :) |
| 00:33.27 | TimeRider | thanks a LOAD, will sleep better tonight :) |
| 00:33.44 | simonrvn | another happy camper :) |
| 00:33.49 | TimeRider | VERY :D |
| 00:34.08 | TimeRider | wonder why it failed in the first place though... |
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| 00:34.24 | freeone3000 | What does dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy) mean? Is it something like a failed CRC on an archive? |
| 00:34.35 | TimeRider | is looking like the upgrade script from apt must have failed... |
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| 00:36.16 | simonrvn | freeone3000: no i'm pretty sure that's not it, but something to do with the data from some pipe failed in the write, so it poop. not sure exact details. i just re-run it if it fails for some reason. usually works out |
| 00:36.32 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: This is like the fourth time though. |
| 00:36.52 | croddy | well now it's not doing it. i will wait... and watch. |
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| 00:37.51 | simonrvn | freeone3000: hmm, might be the package then. either a script in it, or the deb itself, or some other thing |
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| 00:40.39 | simonrvn | sorry i can't be of more help |
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| 00:44.10 | cafuego | freeone3000: ANy chance the user is over quota or the disk (or partition) is full? |
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| 00:46.25 | aaronlin | Hi, I'm having difficulty configuring my resolution because I think debian cannot detect my specific video card |
| 00:46.32 | aaronlin | where can I go to fix this problem? |
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| 00:47.44 | freeone3000 | cafuego: Ehm, dpkg I'm running as root. df shows that it's 46% used. |
| 00:47.45 | cafuego | google, modeline. |
| 00:47.51 | abrotman | aaronlin: what video card? and what resolution ? |
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| 00:48.12 | freeone3000 | (wow. I wonder by what.) |
| 00:48.34 | cafuego | freeone3000: /tmp separate? |
| 00:48.57 | freeone3000 | cafuego: Nope. One part for everything. |
| 00:49.15 | epsilon | quick and dirty |
| 00:49.18 | cafuego | freeone3000: I'd run dpkg through starce, see where exactly it does poo. |
| 00:49.21 | cafuego | strace |
| 00:49.30 | aaronlin | abrotman: hmm...dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:49.32 | aaronlin | will that work? |
| 00:49.34 | dvs | poo? The language! ;-) |
| 00:49.58 | abrotman | aaronlin: WHAT video card? and WHICH resolution? |
| 00:50.05 | freeone3000 | Wow. That's a lot of output. |
| 00:50.32 | aaronlin | abrotman: err, I think it's an ATI video card, and i would like it in the 1200's x 800's |
| 00:50.46 | dvs | aaronlin: lspci | grep -i vga |
| 00:51.01 | abrotman | 1200x800 is not a valid resolution |
| 00:51.24 | aaronlin | dvs: I'll paste it in #flood |
| 00:51.34 | dvs | aaronlin: paste it here |
| 00:51.50 | beefcake | whats the chmod to secure files with |
| 00:51.52 | aaronlin | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP |
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| 00:51.53 | beefcake | so people cant tamper with it |
| 00:51.57 | beefcake | on websites |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | aaronlin: i doubt that card can do 1280 |
| 00:52.20 | simonrvn | freeone3000: what really counts is at the bottom |
| 00:52.20 | TTT_Travis | does anyone in here subscribe to linux magazine? |
| 00:52.36 | aaronlin | abrotman: ah...yes, it's fairly old...but the monitor is really new... |
| 00:52.36 | cafuego | abrotman: The Rage128 on our G3 can do 1600x1200 no problem. |
| 00:52.37 | itchi | TTT_Travis: You not ? |
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| 00:52.49 | abrotman | cafuego: that's a mac! |
| 00:52.52 | beefcake | chmod it so it says 'permission denied' |
| 00:52.53 | TTT_Travis | itchi what? |
| 00:52.53 | beefcake | how ? |
| 00:52.58 | cafuego | abrotman: Yeah, and? :-) |
| 00:52.59 | abrotman | aaronlin: the monitor only partially controls resolution |
| 00:53.01 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: The last how many lines? |
| 00:53.15 | aaronlin | yeah...I assume the best I can get is the weakest link? |
| 00:53.15 | abrotman | aaronlin: which driver did you try? |
| 00:53.16 | simonrvn | last page or so |
| 00:53.35 | aaronlin | abrotman: I can't remember...when I installed debian, I think I may hvae blindly pushed enter a bunch of times and just all of a sudden I found a really blurry screen |
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| 00:53.45 | itchi | TTT_Travis: <TTT_Travis> does anyone in here subscribe to linux magazine? <itchi> TTT_Travis: You not ? |
| 00:53.47 | abrotman | aaronlin: tried the ati or radeon driver? |
| 00:53.56 | TTT_Travis | no I don't subscribe |
| 00:54.16 | TTT_Travis | but a product I develop was mentioned and was wondering if anyone could scan it |
| 00:54.20 | aaronlin | yup, trying right now |
| 00:54.21 | TTT_Travis | that page with the mention |
| 00:54.35 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, going to paste... |
| 00:54.37 | aaronlin | do I need to specify a BusID if I am running an x86 computer |
| 00:54.40 | abrotman | no |
| 00:54.43 | abrotman | leave it blank |
| 00:55.04 | cafuego | aaronlin: Generally only if you have multiple cards (even if NOT on x86) |
| 00:55.35 | b1rken | 2on2 medium harserver |
| 00:55.40 | beetlepun_ | is there a recommendation webpage for usb devices? (udev matching rules, I know there's http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids) |
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| 00:56.07 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: http://pastebin.ca/70304 |
| 00:56.16 | abrotman | beetlepun_: run `update-usbids` |
| 00:56.21 | aaronlin | what is /dev/input/mice? My mouse is hooked up to a USB port |
| 00:56.30 | abrotman | use that |
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| 00:56.53 | dvs | bettlepun_: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 00:56.54 | cafuego | aaronlin: Then /dev/input/mice is your mouse. |
| 00:57.08 | CodeWarrior_ | hello folks |
| 00:57.18 | codergeek42_ | aaronlin: /dev/input/mice is a mix of all input from your various mice (if you have more than one mouse) |
| 00:57.28 | aaronlin | hmm...now for my horizontal sync range...do I need to consult a manual, because I can't find mine at the moment |
| 00:57.30 | aaronlin | or can I just guess |
| 00:57.33 | CodeWarrior_ | anybody knows about how to use a Lucent WinModem (ltmodem) on testing AMD64 version ?? |
| 00:57.40 | aaronlin | aah, thanks very much |
| 00:57.49 | codergeek42_ | aaronlin: your monitor's manual *should* have it, but if not you could try something like GTF |
| 00:58.41 | aaronlin | codergeek42_: I'm gonna leave it as defaults |
| 00:58.57 | aaronlin | Lastly, will lowering my color depth increase performance? Or will it just make things look ugly for no reason whatsoever? |
| 00:59.11 | codergeek42_ | aaronlin: Yeah Xorg is getting pretty good at auto-detection of that stuff thankfully :) |
| 00:59.16 | abrotman | aaronlin: try 24bit |
| 00:59.43 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: So. Any suggestions? |
| 00:59.44 | codergeek42_ | aaronlin: Some perform better at 16-bit versus 24-bit, but that depends on the driver and card you are using |
| 00:59.45 | aaronlin | sounds good to me |
| 00:59.48 | aaronlin | I'm using XFree86, not Xorg |
| 00:59.52 | codergeek42_ | Oh :) |
| 01:00.06 | freeone3000 | 24-bit is nicer. |
| 01:00.26 | abrotman | some even want to use 15bit .. ewww |
| 01:00.38 | freeone3000 | What |
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| 01:00.40 | codergeek42_ | abrotman: that just sounds digusting :P |
| 01:00.44 | codergeek42_ | *disgusting |
| 01:01.01 | abrotman | codergeek42_: it was a hack .. but some required it |
| 01:01.07 | is_null | hello everybody, why could root startx and user coudn't please ? |
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| 01:01.33 | aaronlin | I either need to restart X in order to see changes effected, or stuff is plain not working. |
| 01:01.39 | abrotman | is_null: etch/sid ? |
| 01:01.56 | simonrvn | freeone3000: check if you have any left overs in /var/lib/dpkg/updates/ (like tmp* named stuff); what's this about modules-2.4.27* ? |
| 01:02.06 | codergeek42_ | aaronlin: X only picks up the config change on a restart |
| 01:02.20 | abrotman | oh wait .. has aaronlin been editing his config by hand ? |
| 01:02.33 | fhffhqvb | if i run a p2-400 (4x100) at 266 (4x66) will it be the same temperature as a p2-266 or cooler? |
| 01:02.37 | abrotman | now we'll never know |
| 01:02.45 | codergeek42_ | isn't that what dpkg-reconfigure is for? :| |
| 01:02.53 | Stevie-O | no, that's what pico is for |
| 01:02.57 | codergeek42_ | hah :) |
| 01:03.01 | abrotman | codergeek42_: xfree86 doesn't like having its config file touched |
| 01:03.15 | codergeek42_ | abrotman: only if you're not very very careful ;) |
| 01:03.21 | abrotman | or rather .. dpkg-reconfigure doesn't like having xfree's config file touched |
| 01:03.27 | codergeek42_ | oh yeah |
| 01:03.31 | abrotman | codergeek42_: yeah .. the md5 has to match or it won't change it |
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| 01:03.48 | aaronlin | Yay! I'm running in 1024x768 |
| 01:03.52 | abrotman | now what? |
| 01:04.05 | aaronlin | It won't seem to let me go higher than that, but that's fine. |
| 01:04.15 | Stevie-O | check your xorg.log |
| 01:04.19 | abrotman | aaronlin: itmight .. just try again some time |
| 01:04.24 | abrotman | Stevie-O: xfree |
| 01:04.33 | Stevie-O | who runs xfree? |
| 01:04.42 | aaronlin | isn't that part of the default debian install? |
| 01:04.56 | aaronlin | for sarge |
| 01:04.56 | amphi | Stevie-O: xorg is not in stable |
| 01:05.26 | is_null | abrotman: testing, however it is a misconfiguration of mine, after apt-get upgrade, root could startx |
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| 01:05.48 | abrotman | is_null: so you're ok now ? |
| 01:06.00 | freeone3000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.00 | freeone3000 | (stupid wrong enter.) |
| 01:06.01 | freeone3000 | is_null: Did you change the perms? Did you make sure users were allowed to start it when you configured x? |
| 01:06.20 | Amarande | Decision time, apparently. Etch or FreeBSD 6.1? |
| 01:06.28 | abrotman | Amarande: duh .. etch ? :) |
| 01:06.32 | is_null | freakzoid0223: i didn't, is that a group i need to add them to please ? |
| 01:06.37 | aaronlin | abrotman: have you any experience with Ubuntu? |
| 01:06.40 | abrotman | is_null: wait .. |
| 01:06.45 | codergeek42_ | Amarande: not to be rude, but you're in a Debian discussion channel. The answers to that will probably be a little bit biased. ;) |
| 01:06.48 | abrotman | aaronlin: none |
| 01:06.50 | aaronlin | Is it very similar or significantly different |
| 01:06.57 | abrotman | is_null: root can startx but users can't? |
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| 01:07.36 | is_null | abrotman: yes |
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| 01:07.53 | abrotman | is_null: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
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| 01:08.52 | freakzoid0223 | is_null, you priv msg the wrong person |
| 01:08.53 | is_null | abrotman: good idea but just selected anybody and still no evolution |
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| 01:09.15 | abrotman | is_null: shut down X .. |
| 01:09.19 | abrotman | is_null: then run it .. then try again |
| 01:09.30 | is_null | freakzoid0223: i privmsg nobody :s |
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| 01:09.58 | Amarande | nobody isn't on IRC :) |
| 01:10.07 | is_null | abrotman: when am i supposed to stop trying ? |
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| 01:10.34 | arclithion | Amarande, that's a double-negative. You should really use something like "Everybody is on IRC" |
| 01:10.35 | abrotman | stop trying what? |
| 01:10.37 | arclithion | hehe |
| 01:10.58 | nekostar | hey abrotman thanx !! |
| 01:11.07 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:11.12 | is_null | reconfiguring, change to user, try X, going root, reconfiguring ... |
| 01:11.23 | abrotman | nekostar: nope .. enjoy |
| 01:11.23 | Amarande | Actually, Everybody isn't on IRC either. |
| 01:11.25 | nekostar | the dpkg build package thing worked |
| 01:11.26 | nekostar | :) |
| 01:11.28 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 01:11.42 | nekostar | <3 pure-ftpd + largefile support lol |
| 01:11.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:11.53 | nekostar | what can i say |
| 01:12.00 | abrotman | you love debian? |
| 01:12.01 | nekostar | i got a weak spot for something with no known exploits |
| 01:12.01 | nekostar | :P |
| 01:12.04 | nekostar | very much sir. |
| 01:12.06 | is_null | tryed several times, thiis should work now |
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| 01:12.14 | nekostar | ive tried quite a few others but this is teh shiznit |
| 01:12.18 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:12.23 | nekostar | one question though. |
| 01:12.26 | nekostar | for desktop support: |
| 01:12.30 | abrotman | nekostar: eh .. pure has had exploits |
| 01:12.33 | nekostar | whats the big diff b/t ubuntu and deb |
| 01:12.40 | nekostar | shh i dont wanna know that abrotman ... |
| 01:12.44 | nekostar | :P |
| 01:12.45 | Amarande | Have -any- major daemons been free of significant exploits? |
| 01:12.50 | nekostar | yes |
| 01:12.53 | amphi | !ubuntu |
| 01:12.53 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 01:12.54 | Amarande | ircd, maybe. That's probably why it's such a DDoS magnet. |
| 01:12.55 | nekostar | the one thats not used Amarande |
| 01:12.56 | nekostar | ;P |
| 01:13.13 | nekostar | Amarande, ive yet to see an ircd thats sploit free |
| 01:13.50 | Amarande | Well, ircd tends to be pretty secure, and also the fact that IRC servers on major networks have to run such a minimalist set of services, they're like adamantite armor. |
| 01:14.14 | Amarande | And what do bad guys do to the guy in adamantite armor if they're smart? Nope, they don't try to poke through with a sword, they jump on him so he can't move. :) |
| 01:15.10 | nekostar | lol |
| 01:15.36 | nekostar | all im saying is ive yet to see one with no holes lol |
| 01:15.48 | simonrvn | freeone3000: hmm, looks like a bug. check the BTS |
| 01:15.59 | simonrvn | i just hit the same problem |
| 01:16.09 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: Something other than oracle? |
| 01:16.13 | nekostar | but you are correct in that its not that bad sir. |
| 01:16.16 | simonrvn | yeh. seems to be dpkg |
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| 01:16.22 | nekostar | but ive seen some shit ive not wanted to |
| 01:16.24 | freeone3000 | Sid? |
| 01:16.28 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:16.29 | is_null | hello everybody, why could root startx and user coudn't please ? (x11-common is configured so anybody can startx) |
| 01:16.35 | freeone3000 | Hmm. There was a recent update. |
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| 01:16.39 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 01:16.47 | simonrvn | yesterday i think |
| 01:16.51 | abrotman | wtf did he get oracle.deb ? |
| 01:17.09 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 01:17.16 | abrotman | is_null: check your logs for errors |
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| 01:17.31 | freeone3000 | abrotman: IT's the express version. :) |
| 01:17.36 | elik_laptop | Hi, can anybody help me configure my laptop so the touchpad is deactivated when I plug in a mouse |
| 01:17.46 | abrotman | !tell freeone3000 about oracle |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | and afaik .. it's not called oracle.deb |
| 01:18.26 | freeone3000 | I renamed it so the autocompletion would work better. |
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| 01:18.36 | abrotman | uh .. ok |
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| 01:18.39 | freeone3000 | They still offer .debs for the express version btw. |
| 01:18.46 | abrotman | freeone3000: i know that |
| 01:18.56 | abrotman | freeone3000: can you install other things? |
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| 01:19.09 | is_null | abrotman: drm_unlovk error using kernel context 0 & radon_cp_init called without lock held |
| 01:19.11 | freeone3000 | abrotman: Only through apt, I didn't try anything else by itself. |
| 01:19.23 | abrotman | is_null: eh .. google .. that's a known issue |
| 01:19.36 | codergeek42_ | nekostar: Naruto rocks! \o/ |
| 01:19.56 | abrotman | freeone3000: it could be a bugin the oracle package |
| 01:20.07 | is_null | abrotman: heh, sorry, me tired :s |
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| 01:20.19 | elik_laptop | abrotman, you that have answer to every question, did you work with linux on laptops? |
| 01:20.27 | stoned | guys, I am transferring my dvd rips from laptop to desktop through nfs mount, and it refuses to go faster than 400kb/s, isn't that really slow for a 10mbps network |
| 01:20.31 | abrotman | elik_laptop: i'm on one now |
| 01:20.45 | elik_laptop | abrotman, do you have a USB mouse? |
| 01:20.54 | abrotman | elik_laptop: no .. but they work |
| 01:21.05 | stoned | I would figure at least the local network transfers would be at leat in the range of a few megs a sec |
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| 01:21.17 | elik_laptop | abrotman, did you ever try to deactivate this ****ing touchpad? |
| 01:21.27 | elik_laptop | abrotman, I keep touching it when typing |
| 01:21.31 | nekostar | codergeek42_, yeah lol |
| 01:21.35 | abrotman | elik_laptop: eh .. nope .. i have a trackpoint .. touchpads suck :) |
| 01:22.00 | abrotman | elik_laptop: you could not load the driver for it |
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| 01:22.25 | sng | abrotman: The more you suffer the more it shows you really care. |
| 01:22.41 | elik_laptop | abrotman, yeah, but when I dont have the mouse plugged in.. it sucks alittle |
| 01:22.59 | liable | dvs: thats a great howto on udev rules |
| 01:23.11 | abrotman | elik_laptop: eh .. so remove the driver now .. :) |
| 01:23.13 | dvs | liable: Yeah, that's what I use |
| 01:23.20 | stoned | anyone ? |
| 01:23.24 | abrotman | elik_laptop: i bet you can write some udev rules to do it automagically |
| 01:23.32 | abrotman | sng: we care a lot! |
| 01:23.47 | elik_laptop | abrotman, been pointed out a program that can deactivate tapping, tpconfig |
| 01:23.47 | stoned | any clue as to where I can start looking to find out why my local network is so slow |
| 01:23.48 | sng | abrotman: Yay!! |
| 01:23.49 | stoned | I only have two machines right now |
| 01:23.54 | elik_laptop | abrotman, but havent been able to make it work :( man page not very helpful |
| 01:23.54 | abrotman | sng: wait .. link coming! |
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| 01:24.05 | beetlepun_ | what other service is responsible for making device nodes other than udev? |
| 01:24.07 | abrotman | elik_laptop: i've never done udev rules .. but it seems like the type of thing they are used for |
| 01:24.10 | simonrvn | freeone3000: subprocess dpkg-split killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 01:24.18 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: What package? |
| 01:24.22 | elik_laptop | abrotman, never used udev |
| 01:24.32 | simonrvn | freeone3000: it was going after tar. i'd suggest a downgrade |
| 01:24.39 | sng | abrotman: No no no. They are used to make small children cry and kick puppy dogs. |
| 01:24.41 | freeone3000 | simonrvn: Ah. How? |
| 01:24.42 | abrotman | sng: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:76rsa9qgb23g |
| 01:24.55 | simonrvn | freeone3000: sec |
| 01:25.09 | unhappy | hello eveyone again |
| 01:25.10 | abrotman | simonrvn: going after tar? |
| 01:25.11 | sng | \nn/ |
| 01:25.25 | elik_laptop | abrotman, conerning the rules, is there any way I can know what device will be mouse0 or mouse1 ? |
| 01:25.27 | abrotman | sng: that was in the chuck mosley days .. |
| 01:25.34 | sng | abrotman: Indeed it was. :) |
| 01:25.37 | elik_laptop | abrotman, reading the udev man page right now |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | elik_laptop: not sure .. |
| 01:25.47 | unhappy | can someone tell me what's the difference between a-c-bakspace and a-c-f1 |
| 01:26.06 | abrotman | !udev rules |
| 01:26.06 | elik_laptop | unhappy, a-c? |
| 01:26.06 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html |
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| 01:26.14 | streuner | sng: when are you marry abrotman? |
| 01:26.16 | abrotman | unhappy: one crashes X .. the other doesn't |
| 01:26.21 | elik_laptop | thx abrotman |
| 01:26.23 | unhappy | alt control |
| 01:26.23 | beetlepun_ | unhappy, you can turn off the reset-key (ctrl-alt-backspace) in the xorg.conf file |
| 01:26.53 | elik_laptop | unhappy, ctrl-alt-backspace kill x server while ctrl-alt-f1 only swith you to a console |
| 01:26.57 | simonrvn | abrotman: unpacking it |
| 01:27.11 | nekostar | so im back to wondering though |
| 01:27.11 | abrotman | simonrvn: his paste? |
| 01:27.20 | nekostar | whats the diff b/t the ubuntu and debian patches ? |
| 01:27.32 | abrotman | simonrvn: looks like it tried to delete a lock file .. failed and died |
| 01:27.42 | nekostar | ive noticed that ubuntu seems to be a lil easier for desktop usage but debian is rock friggan solid |
| 01:27.47 | abrotman | simonrvn: or you mean the munmap lines ? |
| 01:28.09 | unhappy | like i said yesterday ... i'm just trying to kill x to be able to install the nvidia drivers ... the problem is that as you said ... f1 will not kill the xserver and when i do ac-backspace it trows me into gui login screen (i guess what you call "dm") and i can't run anything in vga |
| 01:28.33 | freeone3000 | nekostar: We use a diffrent deb format. We have more crap. |
| 01:28.40 | nekostar | more crap ? |
| 01:28.42 | unhappy | tvi where are you my man |
| 01:28.50 | nekostar | sorry but for instance ? |
| 01:28.50 | abrotman | unhappy: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 01:28.54 | freeone3000 | nekostar: Yeah. People more often offer debian packages than ubuntu packages, imo. |
| 01:29.00 | nekostar | oic |
| 01:29.04 | freeone3000 | *ime. |
| 01:29.12 | unhappy | i did that but it said that init.d is a directory |
| 01:29.17 | elik_laptop | abrotman, it's kinda hard for the rules, they wont have the same device all the time |
| 01:29.26 | nekostar | is there a link you might recommend offhand to check out the differences ? |
| 01:29.34 | nekostar | if not im gonna just google that bit lol |
| 01:29.34 | abrotman | elik_laptop: you can probably make them have the same name |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | nekostar: ask #ubuntu |
| 01:29.59 | freeone3000 | nekostar: They come with stuff installed and have borked config. |
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| 01:30.08 | freeone3000 | nekostar: We come with nothing installed, and have less borked config. |
| 01:30.58 | elik_laptop | abrotman, will they always have the same bus ID? |
| 01:31.17 | abrotman | if your usb mouse is plugged into the same port .. i'd guess they would |
| 01:31.26 | abrotman | elik_laptop: but it should have the same usb id |
| 01:32.15 | elik_laptop | abrotman, realy? I thought it was assigned at detection... |
| 01:32.17 | beetlepun_ | I have a question, I can't find the rule in udev (/etc/udev/rules.d) for what's creating /mnt/ttyUSB0 -- and I know its getting creating by pulling/inserting this usb device |
| 01:32.26 | liable | abrotman: hrm, must have been a while since i looked in the udev docs i guess. i dont remember seeing such a user friendly doc in there before :) |
| 01:32.34 | elik_laptop | abrotman, and how would I get to know what is the USB id of a device? |
| 01:32.38 | beetlepun_ | (issuing grep -RHni ttyusb * doesn't tell me) |
| 01:32.53 | sng | elik_laptop: dmesg. |
| 01:32.53 | abrotman | liable: they have docs? |
| 01:32.58 | abrotman | elik_laptop: lsusb ? |
| 01:33.07 | sng | Or wait... There's another log in Linux. |
| 01:33.08 | nekostar | ah |
| 01:33.16 | nekostar | thanx freeone3000 appreciated |
| 01:33.37 | Stevie-O | what is /dev/input/ts* ? |
| 01:34.10 | dabreegster | Stevie-O: Touchscreen |
| 01:34.14 | elik_laptop | abrotman, I see Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse which is my mouse |
| 01:34.20 | elik_laptop | abrotman, but no laptop |
| 01:34.25 | elik_laptop | abrotman, touchpad* |
| 01:34.32 | abrotman | duh |
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| 01:34.36 | abrotman | the touchpad isn't usb |
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| 01:34.45 | elik_laptop | ps2? |
| 01:34.53 | elik_laptop | acpi |
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| 01:34.58 | elik_laptop | is that even a bus? |
| 01:35.05 | abrotman | probably ps2 |
| 01:35.22 | sgiratch | Where do I find the xfree conf-file? |
| 01:35.40 | streuner | why |
| 01:35.52 | beetlepun_ | sgiratch, xfree or xorg? either should be as indicated in the manual (man X) |
| 01:36.02 | abrotman | sgiratch: what do you want to do with it ? |
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| 01:36.35 | freeone3000 | "error: "Success" reading key "dev.parport.parport0.autoprobe3"" |
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| 01:39.29 | Amarande | Ergh. |
| 01:39.47 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out if, should I ever attach a monitor to this extra machine, DRI will work. |
| 01:40.08 | Amarande | What "r" number corresponds to a Radeon 9600? |
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| 01:40.46 | abrotman | none? |
| 01:40.47 | abrotman | ask #ati? |
| 01:40.52 | Stevie-O | r12345 |
| 01:40.58 | unhappy | hi again .. the nvidia installer is telling me that i have to install kernel source tree ... can you tell me how can i do that |
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| 01:41.41 | abrotman | unhappy: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 01:41.49 | unhappy | thatnk you sir |
| 01:41.51 | abrotman | unhappy: you are running a 2.6 kenrel .. ri9ght ? |
| 01:41.59 | abrotman | !tell unhappy about nvidia one-liner |
| 01:42.01 | unhappy | yeah like you said |
| 01:42.04 | unhappy | 2.6.8 |
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| 01:42.33 | unhappy | what is this kernel 2.6.16 ... all the other ppl on nvidia site seem to have it ... why |
| 01:42.59 | abrotman | ignore it |
| 01:43.04 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:43.04 | dpkg | well, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 01:43.08 | abrotman | unhappy: use that |
| 01:43.44 | unhappy | what did you ask the bot |
| 01:43.48 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:43.49 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 01:43.51 | abrotman | unhappy: use that |
| 01:43.56 | linux3 | how would i add a module to my grub boot loader menu? |
| 01:44.21 | unhappy | how come you remmember all the packages names ... |
| 01:44.25 | linux3 | like what do i add to my config file? |
| 01:44.33 | linux3 | cause i can figure out how to do it in lilo |
| 01:44.34 | linux3 | but i use grub |
| 01:44.35 | Amarande | unhappy: dpkg is a robot |
| 01:44.38 | linux3 | so im kinda at a loss |
| 01:44.43 | Amarande | Its job is remembering stuff for people :) |
| 01:44.57 | unhappy | i know that bastard ... he's very sarcastic |
| 01:45.06 | linux3 | lol |
| 01:45.09 | unhappy | i was asking abrotman |
| 01:45.31 | unhappy | hey ... i prevented rape today |
| 01:45.37 | abrotman | unhappy: i remember lots of things .. it's totally a curse :) |
| 01:45.40 | Dogydog | hi guys, I'm newbie, where can I find out the verion and build no of my system? |
| 01:45.52 | linux3 | unhappy, how did you manage that? |
| 01:46.05 | unhappy | very simple ..... i stoped following her.... |
| 01:46.09 | unhappy | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAH\ |
| 01:46.16 | linux3 | lol |
| 01:46.23 | unhappy | sorry i'm in a good mood today |
| 01:46.24 | cafuego | you should change your nick to 'unfunny' |
| 01:46.26 | Arafangion | Dogydog: You can't. |
| 01:46.35 | Amarande | Dogydog: uname -a |
| 01:46.37 | stoned | I have a delimma |
| 01:46.37 | Arafangion | Dogydog: But... You can check your /etc/apt/source.list and make an assumption that most of your packages are in there. |
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| 01:46.40 | stoned | dilemma |
| 01:46.54 | dvs | stoned: Funny, I have a lemma |
| 01:46.57 | dvs | ;-) |
| 01:46.58 | unhappy | i don't think we should censor humor... cafuego... |
| 01:47.00 | stoned | I have a laptop running ubuntu, yes i know, shoot me |
| 01:47.11 | dvs | !lart stoned |
| 01:47.13 | cafuego | unhappy: Not if it's actually funny, no. |
| 01:47.14 | streuner | unhappy: we can't? |
| 01:47.15 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:47.20 | abrotman | Dogydog: you want the what ? |
| 01:47.37 | unhappy | well cafuego i'll give you one you'll like |
| 01:47.45 | amphi | streuner: what of it? ;) |
| 01:47.47 | Dogydog | I wanted to know which version I'm using of Debian |
| 01:47.49 | abrotman | he's probably liek that because he uses nvidia crap |
| 01:47.49 | unhappy | what was tiger looking for in the toilet |
| 01:47.52 | stoned | I need to isntall debian on it, but the screen is broke, keys are shattered, and the external monitor port is broke. I can however use it over the network with X and stuff. HOW can run the debian installer on it? or install debian? |
| 01:47.52 | amphi | er, stoned |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | Dogydog: cat /etc/version |
| 01:47.59 | abrotman | erm |
| 01:48.01 | amphi | sorry, streuner |
| 01:48.02 | linux3 | is this line ok: |
| 01:48.02 | abrotman | Dogydog: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:48.03 | unhappy | poo |
| 01:48.04 | linux3 | root=/dev/sdb1 ro append= |
| 01:48.20 | unhappy | let me try the install ... i'll be back |
| 01:48.22 | linux3 | append=cpqarray eisa=0x3000 |
| 01:48.24 | dvs | stoned: why would you want to keep a laptop like that? |
| 01:48.30 | Dogydog | ahh okay testing/unstable :) |
| 01:48.39 | stoned | dvs, 1.8ghz, 512 ram, decent server machine |
| 01:48.44 | amphi | stoned: how did it reach this sad condition? |
| 01:48.51 | dvs | stoned: oooooooooookey |
| 01:48.53 | Dogydog | and the version name (e.g. sarge...) |
| 01:48.55 | stoned | amphi, it was given to me, someone was throwing it away |
| 01:48.59 | freeone3000 | "Don't throw out your old crap computer! Make it into a SERVER!" |
| 01:48.59 | stoned | I said no just let me have it |
| 01:49.02 | stoned | I put it to some use |
| 01:49.04 | stoned | but wrong use |
| 01:49.14 | stoned | fuck ubuntu on it man, I want debian WAH WAH |
| 01:49.16 | dvs | freeone3000: Actually, I did that. |
| 01:49.29 | freeone3000 | I would do that. Except I can't afford a new one. |
| 01:49.49 | amphi | stoned: you could remove the hd and install on another machine? |
| 01:50.03 | stoned | i don't want to take any chance to open up this laptop man |
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| 01:50.13 | amphi | heh |
| 01:50.15 | stoned | its already badly bruised and just hangin on to dear life |
| 01:50.26 | linux3 | anyone? |
| 01:50.30 | stoned | !anyone |
| 01:50.30 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:50.35 | stoned | ahah, sorry |
| 01:50.49 | unhappy | cafuego, by the way ... you left yesterday, suggesting the install of actual repo nvidia pdkg. i later realized that, since i need legacy drivers .. only unstable supports it... i'm just telling you so you know why i'm trying the nvidia installer again |
| 01:51.04 | Dogydog | which media players do you use on debian? I experience some dificulties with xine in playing RealPlayer streams |
| 01:51.11 | amphi | mplayer |
| 01:51.13 | j4cbo | vlc |
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| 01:51.37 | stoned | see, Section 5 of the debian i386 installation guide it says how to isntall debian from an existing linux/unix system. But the p roblem is, my lapotp only has one partition, / |
| 01:51.48 | stoned | so I dunno how to get debian on the damn thing |
| 01:51.54 | stoned | someone throw me a clue please |
| 01:51.59 | streuner | unhappy: what's wrong with 'nv'? |
| 01:53.10 | unhappy | 1. i want to learn how to use this crazy os 2. i want to see if i can play some games so i can completly get rid of dual boot |
| 01:53.24 | Dogydog | isn't it a danger to install players not supported as official debian packages? didn't find mplayer and vlc |
| 01:53.32 | stoned | !marillat |
| 01:53.32 | dpkg | [marillat] a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 01:53.39 | liable | stoned: hrm, find a boot disk that has sshd turned on once booted, i think knoppix does but am not real sure |
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| 01:53.49 | dabreegster | unhappy: check out happypenguin.org. Name a genre and I can recommend some good ones. Also check out wine. |
| 01:54.16 | j4cbo | un |
| 01:54.19 | j4cbo | ack |
| 01:54.20 | freeone3000 | unhappy: Try just using the binary drivers from nvidia.com |
| 01:54.26 | stoned | no |
| 01:54.33 | stoned | !nvidia one liner |
| 01:54.34 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 01:55.00 | Dogydog | sounds good |
| 01:55.23 | j4cbo | unhappy: be warned, wine isn't really reliable... you'll be dissapointer if you play anything other than ut/doom/quake |
| 01:55.24 | Dogydog | !marillat.sarge |
| 01:55.25 | dpkg | marillat.sarge is probably marillat's repository for sarge/stable. To add the repository, su root, cd /etc/apt and then: echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main" >>sources.list -OR- echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main" >>sources.list ..... then apt-get update |
| 01:55.33 | freeone3000 | That's what cedega is for. |
| 01:55.35 | abrotman | !msg the bot |
| 01:55.35 | dpkg | i heard msg the bot is please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". |
| 01:55.37 | stoned | Dogydog, try /msg dpkg keyword here |
| 01:55.45 | unhappy | stoned, that's what i'm doing |
| 01:56.02 | streuner | unhappy: an emulator needs more CPU power than the orginal OS... |
| 01:56.04 | freeone3000 | (silently hides the cedega.deb 5.1.2 package in ~/programs/) |
| 01:56.21 | unhappy | i know ... wine is not an option .. maybe for diablo |
| 01:56.27 | dvs | streuner: Really? Is that why my C64 emulator is so slow? :-D |
| 01:56.29 | stoned | I wine firefox/flash and flash8 works just fine and dandy under linux, with sound and all |
| 01:56.37 | freeone3000 | unhappy: There's cedega. It's better. (And Wine is not an Emulator.) |
| 01:56.40 | Dogydog | for my eyes onle :) |
| 01:56.46 | streuner | unhappy: you must decide by yourself why you need or don't need debian |
| 01:56.52 | dabreegster | unhappy: There are many fun games native to Linux |
| 01:56.55 | j4cbo | i'm pretty sure cedega doesn't support dx9, anyway |
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| 01:57.00 | streuner | dvs: hehe |
| 01:57.08 | Dogydog | where do I get the version name from in my debian installation? |
| 01:57.10 | freeone3000 | I'm fairly sure it does. Just not .NET. |
| 01:57.21 | abrotman | Dogydog: why? |
| 01:57.23 | freeone3000 | Dogydog: Er. /etc/apt/sources.lst? |
| 01:57.33 | unhappy | i don't "need" debian but i like what it stands for |
| 01:57.38 | j4cbo | the dx9 stuff in wine was still very very experimental as of a few months ago |
| 01:57.42 | stoned | DFSG! |
| 01:57.44 | unhappy | therefore i'm willing to stick w/ it |
| 01:57.57 | stoned | the best software stuff in the world |
| 01:58.01 | freeone3000 | j4cbo: Quick, what's an easy-to-get game that uses DX9? |
| 01:58.07 | unhappy | doom3 |
| 01:58.08 | abrotman | wrong channel |
| 01:58.16 | stoned | I run painkiller/morrowind/doom3 on cedega |
| 01:58.22 | j4cbo | freeone3000, if you just want to gest get rthdribl |
| 01:58.26 | stoned | works perfectly |
| 01:58.32 | j4cbo | stoned: doom3? why not native? |
| 01:58.48 | stoned | never bothered |
| 01:58.49 | unhappy | why are you making fun of me ... like noone here ever picked up that ol' shotgun |
| 01:58.54 | freeone3000 | j4cbo: Who the what now? |
| 01:58.58 | stoned | didn't know at the time doom3 had a linux port |
| 01:59.04 | Dogydog | cause I want to be sure which package source to add (sarge or etch) |
| 01:59.07 | stoned | when I visited happypenguin I found out and was too lazy |
| 01:59.11 | abrotman | Dogydog: for what? |
| 01:59.14 | stoned | it works just as well |
| 01:59.29 | unhappy | by the way .. does anyone know what happened to loki games |
| 01:59.31 | j4cbo | freeone3000: rthdribl, google it, it's used for graphics benchmarks and video stresstests |
| 01:59.41 | abrotman | !loki |
| 01:59.41 | dpkg | it has been said that loki is the norse trickster god, or a company that ports games to Linux (http://www.lokigames.com/), or bankrupt |
| 01:59.43 | stoned | unhappy, I have bought heretic2 from them |
| 02:00.02 | stoned | ok I lied |
| 02:00.07 | stoned | I got it from mininova |
| 02:00.09 | stoned | :/ |
| 02:00.17 | unhappy | ahhhhhahha |
| 02:00.20 | stoned | :D |
| 02:00.37 | unhappy | piracy undermines linux.... i hope you know that |
| 02:00.49 | Dogydog | allright, it's etch |
| 02:00.57 | stoned | not gonna pay for software man |
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| 02:01.07 | stoned | I support my favorite artits, and I buy the movies I want in my collection |
| 02:01.14 | stoned | other than that, I live off raman noodles |
| 02:01.22 | stoned | I can't afford software |
| 02:01.34 | Blissex | stoned: free sw for everything then... |
| 02:01.39 | stoned | indeed |
| 02:01.44 | unhappy | the money you save at least give 10% to stallman |
| 02:01.58 | j4cbo | i paid up for ut2004 and quake 4 |
| 02:01.59 | Blissex | stoned: there are quite a few pretty good freeware games out there. |
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| 02:02.03 | unhappy | you are dillusionall... hence ... stoned |
| 02:02.12 | j4cbo | of course, i also paid up for hl2, fat lot of good that did me |
| 02:02.16 | stoned | I am not delusional, and don't talk to me like you know me |
| 02:02.19 | unhappy | how about a group hug |
| 02:02.20 | Blissex | stoned: for example Enemy Territory is good, based on Quake3 and entirely free of charge. |
| 02:02.34 | stoned | Blissex, falcon's eye |
| 02:02.34 | abrotman | these are in debian? |
| 02:02.40 | unhappy | anyways... is anyone drinking tonight... |
| 02:02.42 | stoned | Blissex, my favorite, globulation |
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| 02:02.46 | amphi | !lart unhappy |
| 02:02.53 | jair | hello my family :) |
| 02:02.57 | jair | how are you doing? |
| 02:02.57 | dpkg | jair: mas o menos |
| 02:02.58 | aptitude | just great, jair |
| 02:03.01 | jair | haha |
| 02:03.05 | j4cbo | stoned: falcon's eye? BLASPHEMY |
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| 02:03.08 | j4cbo | :) |
| 02:03.09 | unhappy | what is !lart unhappy |
| 02:03.12 | stoned | lol |
| 02:03.18 | stoned | eye candy man, I hate the interface |
| 02:03.19 | jair | this bot everday is better and better haha |
| 02:03.20 | amphi | !pal unhappy |
| 02:03.36 | Blissex | stoned: Falcon's eye is not entirely 3D or that modern. Never head of Globulation, will search. |
| 02:03.38 | stoned | chaotic friday night |
| 02:03.40 | itchi | Amarande: You run Sarge? |
| 02:03.47 | stoned | Blissex, RTS, very nice |
| 02:03.51 | unhappy | UGH |
| 02:03.52 | stoned | glob.. i mean |
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| 02:04.07 | stoned | Blissex, check this out, do you like classic doom at all? |
| 02:04.28 | unhappy | just a question... why would you play classic doom in this day and age |
| 02:04.33 | Blissex | stoned: I got a list here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxNotes.html#majorGames |
| 02:04.39 | dabreegster | unhappy: It's still fun |
| 02:04.45 | Blissex | stoned: yes, played all the Doom games... |
| 02:04.48 | jair | hey guys, I was wondering, when I set up bind on a server it means that I can run one of those dns server for example if I have a domain registered already www.me.com I can have a server with an static IP as my dns server with --> ns1.me.com ns2.me.com? |
| 02:04.50 | stoned | Blissex, you can use the jdoom engine, plus 3 models, plus freedoom iwad, and everything instantly looks like doom, because the freedom iwad's graphics are overtaken by the 3d models that are based on original doom |
| 02:05.04 | unhappy | is it ... is it really |
| 02:05.04 | j4cbo | i dunno about doom but Quake II is still awesome |
| 02:05.07 | Blissex | stoned: yes, had a look at that too. |
| 02:05.10 | j4cbo | also free if you do it right :) |
| 02:05.11 | stoned | Blissex, plus other megawads and stuff works well |
| 02:05.16 | j4cbo | (not referring to piracy) |
| 02:05.18 | Blissex | j4cbo: I think it was the neatest of the series... |
| 02:05.24 | jair | because right now I have a ISP parking my site, and I have a server with static IP address and the domain name is already registered. |
| 02:05.41 | stoned | I don't think anything beats doom2 |
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| 02:05.52 | Blissex | jair: yes, you can do all that, it is not that trivial to sysadm it though. |
| 02:05.54 | stoned | brilliant level design, brilliant puzzle solving sort of, and just non stop fucking fraggin |
| 02:05.57 | unhappy | can y9ou make the bot stop |
| 02:06.25 | dvs | !smite unhappy |
| 02:06.27 | abrotman | the bot stop what? |
| 02:06.39 | stoned | !drugs stoned |
| 02:06.44 | stoned | hmm, ok |
| 02:06.50 | dvs | !drug stoned |
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| 02:07.03 | jair | Blissex: but ok, this is the ip static I have: :201.242.77.57 |
| 02:07.03 | stoned | lol, oregano |
| 02:07.15 | stoned | wait that can't be right |
| 02:07.17 | jair | Blissex: how can I see that my dns server bind9 is running? |
| 02:07.27 | j4cbo | Blissex, quake 1 hasn't really aged well... q3 is too much mayhem |
| 02:07.35 | j4cbo | q2 has the perfect balance |
| 02:07.47 | Blissex | j4cbo: yes, thats what I think too... |
| 02:08.14 | Blissex | jair: to see if your DNS server works, you can use 'host <something> 201.242.77.57' |
| 02:08.41 | j4cbo | plus they included the multiplayer levels in the demo |
| 02:08.45 | j4cbo | er, patch |
| 02:08.56 | j4cbo | so demo + patch = full multiplayer support |
| 02:09.16 | jair | Blissex: what is that <something>? |
| 02:09.25 | jair | the name of my hostname? |
| 02:09.29 | jair | I mean domain name? |
| 02:10.32 | jair | Blissex: what the host command does? |
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| 02:11.26 | Dogydog | I can't manage to install this unofficial marillat package source |
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| 02:11.36 | jair | Blissex: ohh I see, the ip address that return is not the one I have on my debian server. |
| 02:11.41 | abrotman | why not? |
| 02:11.45 | Dogydog | !marillat.etch |
| 02:11.45 | dvs | Dogydog: What did you do? |
| 02:11.46 | dpkg | first, ask me about <marillat key>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 02:11.57 | Dogydog | I typed the command behind the # |
| 02:12.07 | Dogydog | and also followed the command: marillat key |
| 02:12.11 | jair | Blissex: that means I will need to somehow tell bind9 and my system that they are the ones that have the ip address and resolve dns names. |
| 02:12.19 | Dogydog | but don't know what I need the key for |
| 02:12.22 | dvs | Dogydog: did you do that apt-get update |
| 02:12.40 | Blissex | jair: thats the complicated bit :-) |
| 02:13.10 | Dogydog | I just pasted the whole "echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update;" |
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| 02:13.27 | jair | Blissex: ok I know that I have bind9 installed and running |
| 02:13.36 | Blissex | jair: I have written an intro on how to write DNS config files: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxDNSZones.html |
| 02:13.38 | Dogydog | says: "W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 02:13.38 | Dogydog | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 02:13.38 | Dogydog | " |
| 02:13.43 | dvs | Dogydog: That's wrong |
| 02:13.59 | Blissex | jair: but you should read a general background on DNS before reading that. |
| 02:14.04 | dvs | Dogydog: where did you paste it? |
| 02:14.14 | Dogydog | in the shell after given root axs |
| 02:14.21 | abrotman | !apt-key D1F41B907 |
| 02:14.22 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys D1F41B907 ; gpg --export D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 02:14.42 | dvs | Dogydog: paste that in command line ^^ |
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| 02:14.44 | jair | Blissex: thank you very much |
| 02:14.49 | dvs | !msite unhappy |
| 02:15.01 | unhappy | huh |
| 02:15.07 | jair | Blissex: I am sure that in order to make that work I will need at least point the ns servers to mine. |
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| 02:15.12 | abrotman | maybe you're immune now |
| 02:15.19 | dvs | maybe I can't spell |
| 02:15.24 | Blissex | jair: yes... |
| 02:15.27 | unhappy | as i expected source tree didn't help the istaller one bit |
| 02:15.30 | streuner | !nickometer UnHAPPY |
| 02:15.32 | dpkg | 'UnHAPPY' is 69.000% lame, streuner |
| 02:15.50 | stoned | do me |
| 02:16.04 | dvs | stoned: you're not lame |
| 02:16.11 | stoned | awe, thanks |
| 02:16.12 | stoned | :) |
| 02:16.13 | streuner | you are stoned |
| 02:16.13 | unhappy | fuck you |
| 02:16.21 | unhappy | haha |
| 02:16.30 | dvs | !nickometer stoned |
| 02:16.32 | dpkg | 'stoned' is 0.000% lame, dvs |
| 02:16.33 | unhappy | dpkg nvidia on-liner |
| 02:16.34 | dvs | see? |
| 02:16.34 | stoned | yes i am |
| 02:16.35 | abrotman | stop with the stupid damn bot |
| 02:16.36 | jair | Blissex: I am printing your docuemnt |
| 02:16.38 | amphi | !fuck unhappy |
| 02:16.39 | unhappy | msg dpkg nvidia on-liner |
| 02:16.41 | stoned | hehe |
| 02:16.42 | abrotman | unhappy: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 02:16.54 | is_null | no kids around ? |
| 02:16.57 | Dogydog | dvs: seems that it didn't work out |
| 02:16.58 | Dogydog | gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created |
| 02:16.58 | Dogydog | gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created |
| 02:16.58 | Dogydog | gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run |
| 02:16.58 | Dogydog | gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created |
| 02:16.58 | Dogydog | gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created |
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| 02:17.06 | unhappy | hey i got another one for you |
| 02:17.09 | jair | but the reason why I was in hurry is because I need to have this server up a nd running soon. |
| 02:17.14 | unhappy | cafuego, won't like this one either |
| 02:17.25 | abrotman | jair: don't you get paid for this? |
| 02:17.27 | jair | I have an apache2, mysql, ispconfig, debian 3.1 |
| 02:17.29 | abrotman | unhappy: so why do it? |
| 02:17.34 | unhappy | what do you tell a woman w/ 2 black eyes |
| 02:17.46 | dvs | *plonk*? |
| 02:17.47 | abrotman | don't even do it |
| 02:17.51 | jair | abrotman: I am trying to learn how to do it before estar offering this stuff. |
| 02:17.57 | abrotman | unhappy: no more bad jokes |
| 02:18.07 | unhappy | ok |
| 02:18.33 | unhappy | why are you guys so sensitive ... none of my friend & cooworkers are like this. |
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| 02:18.50 | unhappy | is debian ... a @@@@@ distro |
| 02:18.53 | jair | Blissex: thank you anyway :) |
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| 02:19.05 | amphi | !aolify unhappy |
| 02:19.11 | jair | abrotman: smart :( thank you for your attacks |
| 02:19.19 | abrotman | STOP WITH THE BOT |
| 02:19.21 | unhappy | ok .. |
| 02:19.29 | abrotman | jair: ? |
| 02:19.51 | jair | abrotman: yeah right, you know exactly what I mean |
| 02:19.52 | abrotman | unhappy: you're telling sexist jokes .. that's not funny .. it's just sad .. and juvenile |
| 02:19.59 | abrotman | jair: i have no idea what you mean |
| 02:20.07 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.13 | abrotman | jair: yeah ? and? |
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| 02:20.20 | abrotman | jair: i was asking .. not attacking |
| 02:20.24 | stoned | inernet arguments |
| 02:20.25 | jair | right |
| 02:20.28 | abrotman | jair: i have no idea what you do for a living |
| 02:20.30 | stoned | special olympics |
| 02:20.35 | unhappy | abrotman, ... dude you cannot censor humor... this is a matter of "taste" not right or wrong |
| 02:21.06 | jair | abrotman: it is ok |
| 02:21.06 | j4cbo | unhappy, this is a channel about debian... a tech discussion channel, not a "tell jokes" channel |
| 02:21.06 | jair | abrotman: forget about it\ |
| 02:21.06 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | jair: are you sure? |
| 02:21.07 | unhappy | ok ... enogh |
| 02:21.07 | jair | I will be like americans does forget about it and like nothing happen |
| 02:21.12 | unhappy | i won't try to piss anyone off |
| 02:21.15 | stoned | jair, man, just let it go |
| 02:21.17 | unhappy | ok |
| 02:21.17 | j4cbo | not that this is /internet, serious business/, but... joking around is kinda out of place |
| 02:21.18 | unhappy | ok |
| 02:21.22 | unhappy | hahaha |
| 02:21.23 | abrotman | jair: eh .. no way .. we hold grudges! .. but i didn't mean to offend you if i did |
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| 02:21.54 | stoned | friday nights usually bring about a bit of faggotry in the in channel |
| 02:22.13 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 02:22.15 | j4cbo | "faggotry"? |
| 02:22.15 | Dogydog | dvs: sorry for the flooding |
| 02:22.21 | stoned | I made that word up |
| 02:22.22 | stoned | :D |
| 02:22.30 | abrotman | jair: i didn't mean it as an offense .. but you can interpret it however you'd like |
| 02:22.33 | j4cbo | uh-huh |
| 02:22.40 | unhappy | do i have to order that dictionary "secial" |
| 02:22.43 | jair | abrotman: it is ok my friend |
| 02:22.44 | Blissex | stoned: here in England that means ''the activity of doing meatballs''. |
| 02:22.52 | stoned | well, I smoke fags too :) |
| 02:22.53 | dvs | Dogydog: Hey. I didn't kick you out. But it looks like you don't have a keyserver setup |
| 02:23.02 | stoned | I grew up in bristol, westbury |
| 02:23.10 | abrotman | j4cbo: huh? |
| 02:23.15 | Dogydog | so can I install the keyserver daemon? |
| 02:23.17 | unhappy | do any of you guys remmember guy named "caphuso" |
| 02:23.23 | abrotman | unhappy: yes why? |
| 02:23.29 | unhappy | what happend to him |
| 02:23.37 | abrotman | no idea .. why? |
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| 02:23.41 | Blissex | unhappy: he of the many badgers? or was that someone else? |
| 02:23.50 | dvs | Dogydog: you don't need a daemon. just a URL. |
| 02:23.56 | abrotman | Blissex: i think that was sussudio |
| 02:24.00 | stoned | unix computers are possessed |
| 02:24.05 | stoned | damn demons running all over the place |
| 02:24.09 | Blissex | abrotman: ah yes! |
| 02:24.16 | stoned | why do they call it a deamon |
| 02:24.22 | stoned | daemon* |
| 02:24.25 | cafuego | No, daemon. |
| 02:24.25 | unhappy | he really helped me when i was installing my first distro... i miss him ... cool guy |
| 02:24.26 | abrotman | stoned: you're cut off |
| 02:24.38 | dvs | Dogydog: Do you have a ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file? |
| 02:24.45 | stoned | abrotman, no I'm not |
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| 02:24.56 | stoned | abrotman, as far as I know I'm 100% |
| 02:24.56 | abrotman | stoned: you're lucky i'm not your bartender :) |
| 02:25.16 | stoned | abrotman, well I can teach you how to make a Holey Bartender |
| 02:25.21 | unhappy | you'd probably serve injections of holy water |
| 02:25.22 | stoned | would you like to learn? |
| 02:25.24 | amphi | Dogydog: or a ~/.gnupg/options |
| 02:25.26 | Dogydog | no have no such folder as .gnu |
| 02:25.27 | stoned | hehe |
| 02:25.32 | Dogydog | pg |
| 02:25.36 | abrotman | stoned: eh .. no |
| 02:25.49 | dvs | Dogydog: /root/.gnupg/gpg.conf |
| 02:25.56 | unhappy | if i'm lol while irc'ing does that mean that i'm a loser |
| 02:26.08 | stoned | I say lol sometimes in real life |
| 02:26.12 | stoned | I'm 110% loser |
| 02:26.31 | unhappy | i say pawned whe someone fucks up |
| 02:26.40 | Dogydog | okay found it |
| 02:26.54 | Blissex | stoned: unhappy: I guess that you both read bash.org regularly :-) |
| 02:27.13 | j4cbo | bash.org is FAR funnier than anything that ever actually happens on irc |
| 02:27.18 | dvs | Dogydog: Is there a keyserver line in there? |
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| 02:27.36 | unhappy | bash...?? |
| 02:27.38 | Blissex | j4cbo: depends on the network, Freenode is pretty tame. |
| 02:27.41 | stoned | nope |
| 02:27.46 | jair | Blissex: but normally the domain provider give you their dns servers to have your site park right? |
| 02:27.47 | unhappy | what does that have to do w/ anything |
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| 02:28.03 | jair | Blissex: can you use that one while you have your ns1.example.com |
| 02:28.04 | jair | ? |
| 02:28.05 | stoned | bash stopped being funny a week after they came out |
| 02:28.27 | stoned | people can't discern funny from bullcrap it seems |
| 02:28.38 | nvz | heh |
| 02:28.44 | stoned | hey nvz man |
| 02:28.48 | Dogydog | dvs: yes: keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net |
| 02:28.48 | unhappy | what are you talking about ... how is bash funny |
| 02:28.48 | nvz | hey. |
| 02:28.56 | abrotman | hi nvz |
| 02:28.56 | stoned | how is life |
| 02:29.15 | Blissex | jair: yes, but only one of the two will be used by all systems in the world. |
| 02:29.28 | dvs | Dogydog: I don't use that server but as long as there isn't a # at the start of the line it should work. |
| 02:29.31 | streuner | !be a man page barbie |
| 02:29.31 | dpkg | Aww, man page is HARD! Let's go shopping, streuner |
| 02:29.53 | nvz | abrotman: hello. |
| 02:29.54 | h00t | ok ... how is bash funny |
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| 02:30.04 | h00t | is it the man pages |
| 02:30.08 | nvz | abrotman: I got two broken compaqs here ifyou could imagine those odds |
| 02:30.19 | abrotman | nvz: at least they're not dells |
| 02:30.29 | stoned | I have a job interview at dell next friday |
| 02:30.33 | abrotman | sorry to hear that |
| 02:30.36 | stoned | I'm not |
| 02:30.40 | stoned | it pays bills man |
| 02:30.44 | dvs | stoned: Wear your fireproof suit |
| 02:30.50 | stoned | work is work, there is no shame in any job |
| 02:30.51 | abrotman | stoned: so does serving pizza |
| 02:31.00 | stoned | abrotman, arrogant much? |
| 02:31.09 | petemc | he doesnt like dell |
| 02:31.13 | abrotman | stoned: nope .. dell sucks .. i'd rather serve pizza than work for them :) |
| 02:31.16 | stoned | :) |
| 02:31.24 | abrotman | petemc: sorry .. i'd buy one from you! |
| 02:31.26 | stoned | well if pizza delivery paid more I'd gladly do it |
| 02:31.29 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: stoned doesn't like us. |
| 02:31.29 | petemc | :) |
| 02:31.31 | stoned | ride around being high, serving pizza |
| 02:31.35 | stoned | but unfortunately dell pays more |
| 02:31.39 | stoned | so booya |
| 02:31.42 | abrotman | petemc: i mean .. if i were ever to buy one :) |
| 02:31.43 | Amarande | Hey, and if you're lucky, you might even fall into a cryo tube and get to see 3000 :) |
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| 02:31.53 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: he doesn't? |
| 02:32.07 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: yesterday i asked him if he was in india, since he was in a dell callcenter and he shit his pants. |
| 02:32.07 | stoned | I don't? |
| 02:32.11 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well they are my mothers pc and my little brothers old pc (he doesnt know it yet but my parents bought him an emachine) and my mothers I think has been damaged due to power issues. it only had a 200w and has like two sticks of ddr 400 ram, P4, two DVD+RW/CDRW drives, hd..etc |
| 02:32.11 | jair | Blissex: so that means that I can get the ip address of my server (static) and go to the page of the ns1.myisp.com and change the ip there? |
| 02:32.21 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: so he hates me ? |
| 02:32.23 | jair | Blissex: let me see what I can do |
| 02:32.26 | stoned | abrotman, you bastard |
| 02:32.29 | stoned | i hate you |
| 02:32.30 | abrotman | i am? |
| 02:32.31 | Blissex | jair: yes, usually you can exactly that. |
| 02:32.32 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:32.35 | stoned | heh |
| 02:32.36 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: he's in a callcenter. he hates everyone. |
| 02:32.48 | fhffhqvb | the feeling is also mutual |
| 02:32.57 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: oh .. that sounds about right .. i wouldn't want to talk to dell people .. let alone be one :) |
| 02:32.59 | jair | Blissex: let em see thank you for your help though |
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| 02:33.13 | abrotman | nvz: those don't sound very old |
| 02:33.27 | stoned | I have a job interview there next week, its not even a guranteed job, how the hell am I in a call center already? |
| 02:33.45 | abrotman | do you guys have any idea how hard it is to find someone to use your other front row ticket for cirque du soleil ? |
| 02:33.52 | abrotman | free of charge no less |
| 02:33.55 | stoned | no |
| 02:33.55 | dvs | stoned: you'll be ready as soon as you walk in the first day. |
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| 02:33.58 | stoned | I'll take it gladly |
| 02:34.00 | stoned | I love that stuff man |
| 02:34.04 | stoned | evern since I was little |
| 02:34.04 | abrotman | you're not in philly smartass |
| 02:34.09 | stoned | no I'm not |
| 02:34.17 | abrotman | and you'll be working weekends for dell soon |
| 02:34.23 | stoned | who cares man |
| 02:34.25 | stoned | it fucking pays |
| 02:34.27 | Stevie-O | Makefile:1: /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf: Permission denied |
| 02:34.27 | stoned | get over it |
| 02:34.28 | streuner | stoned: is the work in india? |
| 02:34.34 | Stevie-O | how the hell does that happen under fakeroot? |
| 02:34.36 | stoned | no oklahoma city call center |
| 02:34.48 | nvz | abrotman: they arent. but they both are having issues that point to power failure, random locking up blue/black/blank screens not booting sometimes freezing at the bios splash or at a black screen during or after POST |
| 02:34.48 | Dogydog | DSV: okay, it worked out, used another key given from dpkg help bot: D1F41B907 |
| 02:34.54 | abrotman | Stevie-O: it's chmod 000 ? :) |
| 02:35.01 | Stevie-O | abrotman: under fakeroot? |
| 02:35.09 | abrotman | nvz: 200W doesn't sound like enough for a P4 |
| 02:35.11 | dvs | Dogydog: not do an "apt-get update" |
| 02:35.19 | Stevie-O | wait, it is |
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| 02:35.23 | Stevie-O | wtf |
| 02:35.24 | dvs | Dogydog: as root |
| 02:35.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:35.31 | abrotman | Stevie-O: i did that! |
| 02:35.33 | nvz | abrotman: 200w doesnt seem like enought for that hardware either.. they seem to have added one of those disc burners at some point as its white and everything else is black.. so that probably didnt help it. |
| 02:35.37 | stoned | fuckin okc, rednecks all around me man |
| 02:35.40 | stoned | its driving me nuts |
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| 02:35.53 | Dogydog | dvs: what else should I do? |
| 02:35.53 | stoned | churches everwhere, everywhere I tell you! |
| 02:35.57 | streuner | wth are rednecks? |
| 02:36.01 | nvz | abrotman: its probably locking up during burning, or optical disc reads.. when the power is being consumed |
| 02:36.03 | dvs | Dogydog: Did you do the "apt-get update"? |
| 02:36.05 | stoned | !redneck |
| 02:36.05 | dpkg | hmm... redneck is amir |
| 02:36.06 | Stevie-O | sed: can't read /usr/src/linux/2.6.16-2-486/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:36.08 | Stevie-O | wtf |
| 02:36.09 | abrotman | streuner: country folk .. that enjoy country |
| 02:36.19 | abrotman | Stevie-O: you have to install that package |
| 02:36.24 | streuner | omg |
| 02:36.27 | abrotman | !find 2.6.16-2-486/build/include/linux/version.h sid |
| 02:36.34 | stoned | streuner, thats what I said too |
| 02:36.42 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '2.6.16-2-486/build/include/linux/version.h' returned no results. |
| 02:36.43 | stoned | but more strongly, OMG! |
| 02:36.44 | nvz | abrotman: it seems to be beyond the point of just hurting, its probably cause perm damage already I am d/l memtest86 ISO right now to see if it can help check the ram |
| 02:36.47 | abrotman | streuner: you know how you see movies with people that drive trucks and wear hats? .. that |
| 02:36.57 | Stevie-O | abrotman: What package? |
| 02:37.03 | abrotman | nvz: just go grab a 400W PSU |
| 02:37.04 | stoned | and messed up teeth, in overalls or checkerd shirts and jeans |
| 02:37.10 | stoned | that game, Big Motha Truckers |
| 02:37.12 | abrotman | they have to chew too .. ick |
| 02:37.12 | stoned | redneck game |
| 02:37.22 | stoned | its a fun game though |
| 02:37.24 | abrotman | !find build/include/linux/version.h sid |
| 02:37.27 | abrotman | !version.h |
| 02:37.28 | dpkg | if you use multiple kernels and wish to use the include files with ease, copy /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z. then 'ln -fs /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h' |
| 02:37.37 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'build/include/linux/version.h' returned no results. |
| 02:38.09 | stoned | I didn't know dell outsourced to india |
| 02:38.09 | abrotman | petemc: do you highlight on Dell ? |
| 02:38.16 | abrotman | stoned: are you freaking serious? |
| 02:38.20 | dvs | stoned: lucky you |
| 02:38.30 | stoned | I dont' deal with ethem man |
| 02:38.33 | stoned | I don't buy from them |
| 02:38.35 | abrotman | have you ever called dell tech support? .. i'm pretty sure the worst i've ever encountered |
| 02:38.38 | stoned | no |
| 02:38.39 | petemc | abrotman: i dont :) i just happened to be reading at that time |
| 02:38.41 | stoned | I've never owned a dell |
| 02:38.42 | Amarande | nvz, your computer should probably be okay if you get a PSU with enough oomph |
| 02:38.43 | abrotman | petemc: ah ok |
| 02:38.43 | stoned | but I need a fucking job |
| 02:38.48 | abrotman | petemc: isn't it like .. 4AM there? |
| 02:38.50 | Amarande | Get something like a Raidmax Aurora, that's plenty of power for most folks :) |
| 02:38.51 | petemc | dell are ok... |
| 02:38.57 | petemc | 20 to |
| 02:39.00 | abrotman | thought so |
| 02:39.07 | dvs | petemc: you're insane! |
| 02:39.08 | petemc | sorry, 20 of |
| 02:39.17 | petemc | dvs: i am? |
| 02:39.20 | nvz | in other news I was cleaning house on my hd today cause I didnt realize my / reached 100% usage.. I managed to remove like 20gb of files and lower my reserve from 5% (5.5g) to 1% (1.1g) in doing so I ran across two tv episodes I had in avi format that were supposedly the same. identical format, length, frame rate..etc visually identical, but diff and md5sum says otherwise I am at a loss to... |
| 02:39.21 | nvz | ...figuring out how they differ and which to delete |
| 02:39.24 | Amarande | I saw a review of the Aurora (580W) once and about the only negative I saw about it is that it only has one SATA power cable |
| 02:39.24 | abrotman | dvs: he's irish! |
| 02:39.29 | dvs | petemc: <petemc> dell are ok... |
| 02:39.31 | dvs | yes |
| 02:39.33 | petemc | ill fight ye! |
| 02:39.34 | Amarande | (though I'm sure SATA Y-cables will be everywhere soon enough if they aren't already ... heh) |
| 02:39.45 | stoned | nvz, both |
| 02:39.46 | stoned | ! |
| 02:39.49 | stoned | hehe |
| 02:39.50 | nvz | stoned: heh |
| 02:39.54 | petemc | dvs: right, they are |
| 02:40.00 | j4cbo | 580 watt power supply? geez, why? |
| 02:40.09 | dvs | petemc: therefore, you're insane |
| 02:40.14 | Dogydog | dvs: yes I ran the update |
| 02:40.21 | petemc | dvs: ok, thats a strong argument |
| 02:40.25 | dvs | yup |
| 02:40.27 | Stevie-O | wtf |
| 02:40.39 | Stevie-O | why is this looking in /usr/src/linux/2.6.16-2-486 |
| 02:40.40 | abrotman | hehe .. that didn't take long .. dell is now pushing linux on tv |
| 02:40.41 | stoned | Cogito. Ergo "dangerous". I think, therefore, I am dangerous |
| 02:40.47 | dvs | Dogydog: So use aptitude, synaptic or whatever to get mplayer |
| 02:40.50 | Amarande | j4cbo: well, the 580W I have is in megami, which is a Windows gaming rig |
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| 02:40.54 | abrotman | of course they said "Scalable linux and data management systems" |
| 02:41.02 | Dogydog | will tr |
| 02:41.03 | Dogydog | y |
| 02:41.18 | abrotman | j4cbo: i have a dell server at work .. old .. the PSU came in two models 550W and 700W |
| 02:41.20 | stew | abrotman: the bar we went to for dinner actually had the right game on :) |
| 02:41.26 | abrotman | stew: ah .. nice! |
| 02:41.29 | abrotman | stew: good game too |
| 02:41.29 | nvz | stoned: I'd really like to learn from this. to me they are identical.. both are created with the same software and are all the same specs and contain the exact same tv episode from ABC Family.. but their checksums dont agree and diff says they differ but doesnt say how. I ran strings on them and dumped the strings to a file, and the diff of the strings dump matches.. but something about the... |
| 02:41.31 | nvz | ...avi files is different |
| 02:41.34 | j4cbo | my seasonic s12-380 holds up just fine with an a64 3500+ and 7800gt |
| 02:41.36 | stew | abrotman: yeah. |
| 02:41.49 | abrotman | stew: too bad the perfect game died |
| 02:41.53 | abrotman | hasn't been one in years |
| 02:42.01 | Amarande | I'm thinking of going from a 6600 to a 7600GT on megami |
| 02:42.11 | Amarande | The UNIX box to be will stick with a Radeon 9600. |
| 02:42.11 | stew | abrotman: was it a perfect game for a while? |
| 02:42.18 | abrotman | stew: until the sixth inning |
| 02:42.25 | nvz | I hate to delete one without knowing how/why their checksums are different |
| 02:42.30 | stoned | nvz, I am also lost now I think. I can't think of anything either |
| 02:42.33 | abrotman | nvz: use diff |
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| 02:42.51 | amphi | Amarande: not making it, rather ;) |
| 02:42.59 | Amarande | amphi: Yeah. |
| 02:43.01 | Dogydog | dvs: wowie worked out well :) thanks a million for the help |
| 02:43.04 | abrotman | stew: eight innings .. no walks .. three hits |
| 02:43.05 | nvz | I did, diff only says the binary files differ, it doesnt elaborate.. I tried all sorts of options and couldnt get any output of what the actual difference was |
| 02:43.05 | stoned | Amarande, depends on your needs |
| 02:43.09 | Amarande | How good is etch for a LAN-accessed system with no local monitor? |
| 02:43.12 | dvs | Dogydog: you're welcome |
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| 02:43.41 | stew | abrotman: wow, a lot better than the last time we saw him (in the bronx) |
| 02:43.52 | abrotman | stew: yep .. though .. it was just the phillies :) |
| 02:44.01 | Amarande | I'll probably be mostly using it to geek out with. :) |
| 02:44.12 | Amarande | And to provide a few LAN services like caching DNS. |
| 02:44.41 | stoned | choc. phillies.. num num |
| 02:45.06 | stoned | hell choc. anything is yummy |
| 02:45.20 | stoned | Amarande, yes, and yes! |
| 02:45.43 | stoned | Amarande, why not sarge? |
| 02:45.49 | nvz | thats a process I do often because I keep sloppy backups often even keep recursive backups I just removed a long tree of /home/nvz/nvz/nvz/nvz/home/nvz..heh of many backups I've done and restored over the years.. and if I come across two seemingly identical files I usualy checksum and/or diff them and consult timestamps to determine which to keep and which to delete |
| 02:45.58 | Amarande | stoned: sarge is a little long in the tooth now |
| 02:45.59 | stoned | lol |
| 02:46.04 | nvz | I've just never ran into a case I couldnt tell the difference |
| 02:46.10 | stoned | Amarande, but it IS stable and secure |
| 02:46.25 | stoned | Amarande, you want services, you should run stable |
| 02:47.06 | stoned | Amarande, if you have need of newer software see if backports can't fulfil that need |
| 02:49.10 | nvz | all I can think is maybe one has some kind of virus attached to it. windows media player has all sorts of ways it can be exploited so its not unheard of that something be attached to a video file :P |
| 02:49.25 | stoned | nvz, guess what happened the other day |
| 02:49.35 | nvz | what? |
| 02:49.57 | stoned | I downloaded a rare Burzum music video, asf file. I used mplayer blah.asf and voila, entire system went blank, froze, crashed |
| 02:50.03 | Amarande | Also, is it possible to do a proper GNOME login when the X server is not on the same computer as the GNOME software? |
| 02:50.04 | stoned | I tested it two more times, same thing |
| 02:50.16 | nvz | heh, I dont like using asf files if I can help it |
| 02:50.34 | stoned | if it isn't open source, I'd rather not use it |
| 02:50.37 | nvz | I dont like quicktime or real files either really |
| 02:50.51 | stoned | mpeg works just as well |
| 02:50.59 | stoned | ogg is even better |
| 02:51.10 | stoned | but of course the companies will push thier own shit |
| 02:52.22 | stoned | I think the only useful thing I've ever seen by quicktime was its high compression back in 1995-96 etc. |
| 02:52.31 | stoned | The making of Myst |
| 02:52.46 | stoned | video on the cdrom of broderbund game MYST |
| 02:53.08 | stoned | they said that they used quicktime to compress the 3d images down to a high amount to fit on the cd |
| 02:53.17 | stoned | I thought it was kinda cool, I was in 8th grade |
| 02:53.22 | stoned | !tell me about enter |
| 02:53.28 | stoned | :( |
| 02:53.46 | nvz | yeah I used to like real for their compression, but it didnt make up for the shitty software you had to put up with to use it |
| 02:54.49 | nvz | I think its a shame when that sort of thing happens. you discover a good thing and force people to use it in bad ways |
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| 02:54.58 | nvz | go open source! |
| 02:55.22 | stoned | go opensource go go go, opensource B. Good |
| 02:55.26 | stoned | da nanana nanana |
| 02:56.28 | nvz | of course now real's discoveries arent really that great cause there are better things out there.. but when it all started it was a decent format and shitty software |
| 02:56.39 | stoned | yup |
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| 02:57.06 | nvz | now its a sub-par format and still shitty software |
| 02:57.13 | stoned | I am so thankful for the good hearted people who push opensource and people who make their work under GPL |
| 02:57.40 | stoned | I think the highest video compression and shittiest quality I have ever seen is... |
| 02:57.42 | stoned | VIVO! |
| 02:58.11 | stoned | you familiar with that obscure format |
| 02:58.31 | Stevie-O | has anyone here ever gotten lirc to work? |
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| 02:59.03 | linux3 | anyone know how i can get debian to not load a certain module in /etc/modules |
| 02:59.09 | linux3 | that is not allowing my comp to boot |
| 02:59.10 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 02:59.10 | dpkg | blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 02:59.29 | linux3 | i cannot get my system to boot |
| 02:59.36 | linux3 | how would i do that? |
| 02:59.46 | linux3 | the line cpqarray eisa=0x3000 |
| 03:00.04 | linux3 | causes a bunch of i/o errors saying that the address 0x3000 is in use by some device |
| 03:00.13 | linux3 | that is the device i want cpqarray to see |
| 03:00.16 | linux3 | wtf! |
| 03:00.23 | Gnea | linux3: is it a compaq server? |
| 03:00.24 | linux3 | stupid online manul just messed up my system |
| 03:00.29 | linux3 | Gnea, yeah |
| 03:00.38 | linux3 | Gnea, proliant 3000 |
| 03:00.43 | Gnea | yeah |
| 03:00.56 | linux3 | Gnea, you know anything about how to get it to work? |
| 03:00.59 | Gnea | just comment out the eisa=0x3000 |
| 03:01.13 | linux3 | Gnea, but i can't get my machine to boot to the point where i could do that |
| 03:01.14 | Gnea | like this: cpqarray #eisa=0x3000 |
| 03:01.23 | Gnea | linux3: can you boot it via cdrom? |
| 03:01.33 | linux3 | Gnea, which cdrom? the debain one |
| 03:01.35 | linux3 | i can give it a try |
| 03:01.39 | Gnea | yeah |
| 03:01.57 | Gnea | then just have the installation program detect the array, mount it, edit, unmount and reboot |
| 03:02.07 | Gnea | alt-f2 to do commandline |
| 03:02.48 | Amarande | Good grief, how many versions of ncurses are there now? |
| 03:03.05 | Gnea | s/Good grief/Curses/g |
| 03:03.07 | Gnea | ;) |
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| 03:03.31 | Gnea | 2922 W. Clarendon Ave |
| 03:03.31 | Gnea | Phoenix, Az 85017 |
| 03:03.41 | linux3 | Gnea, it cannot detect the array |
| 03:03.43 | Gnea | damnit |
| 03:03.43 | dvs | o_O |
| 03:03.46 | Gnea | stupid mouse |
| 03:04.01 | linux3 | Gnea, it is running on a eisa bus |
| 03:04.07 | linux3 | debian finds it at boot though |
| 03:04.08 | Gnea | lol |
| 03:04.14 | Gnea | dvs: have fun ;) |
| 03:04.23 | linux3 | just that i cannot get cpqarray module to find it |
| 03:04.25 | linux3 | so im stuck |
| 03:04.31 | linux3 | and don't know what i should do |
| 03:04.38 | linux3 | cause i need that array controller to work |
| 03:05.03 | Gnea | linux3: are you sure that the disk drives and/or the array parameters in the bios haven't been corrupted? |
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| 03:06.44 | decline|lvthn | Need a credit card to buy a counter-strike server (GAME) msg me ty |
| 03:06.54 | abrotman | decline|lvthn: go away |
| 03:06.59 | Ronin | decline|lvthn: oh go away and talk to your parents |
| 03:07.13 | abrotman | what is it with canadians?! jeez |
| 03:07.16 | Gnea | aptitude: ops 20:06 -!- decline|lvthn [n=lvthn@modemcable049.32-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian 20:06 < decline|lvthn> Need a credit card to buy a counter-strike server (GAME) msg me ty |
| 03:07.16 | aptitude | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: gnea complains about: 20:06 -!- decline|lvthn [n=lvthn@modemcable049.32-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian 20:06 < decline|lvthn> Need a credit card to buy a counter-strike server (GAME) msg me ty |
| 03:07.25 | dvs | abrotman: yeah.... hey!!! |
| 03:07.28 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:07.32 | Ronin | abrotman: hey now |
| 03:07.50 | Ronin | not our fault many fall under the spell of our neighbors to the south |
| 03:08.47 | abrotman | Gnea: nice try .. |
| 03:08.56 | Gnea | abrotman: oh well |
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| 03:09.29 | linux3 | Gnea, how do i mount the hard drive? |
| 03:09.46 | linux3 | Gnea, yep everything is ok in the bios |
| 03:09.56 | Gnea | linux3: if cpqarray can't detect it, then you'll need to reset it via the bios |
| 03:10.10 | linux3 | Gnea, well the bios when the comp boots shows everything correctly |
| 03:10.13 | linux3 | 3 logical drives |
| 03:10.17 | linux3 | and everything is all set |
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| 03:10.23 | linux3 | starts up correctly |
| 03:10.25 | Gnea | linux3: have you tried the smart cd? |
| 03:10.34 | linux3 | Gnea, yes |
| 03:10.37 | linux3 | and i configured everything |
| 03:10.43 | Gnea | ok |
| 03:11.01 | linux3 | ok how do i mount that hard drive |
| 03:11.05 | linux3 | from the debian console |
| 03:11.09 | linux3 | it found the drives |
| 03:11.19 | linux3 | now how to mount them so i can edit the file and then reboot |
| 03:11.21 | Gnea | the same way you mount any drive |
| 03:11.34 | linux3 | mount /dev/sda /mount/sda |
| 03:11.36 | linux3 | does not work |
| 03:11.43 | linux3 | because /dev/sda does not exist |
| 03:11.52 | Gnea | it's not SCSI, it's a compaq array |
| 03:12.01 | Gnea | check dmesg for the proper device node |
| 03:12.03 | killown | I am logged as user local am trying ssh 127.0.0.1 and type password root but it return @127.0.0.1's password: |
| 03:12.03 | killown | Permission denied, please try again. |
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| 03:12.16 | linux3 | Gnea, ok let me make this clear. the drive i want to boot off of/mount is not on the array |
| 03:12.23 | linux3 | it is on a seperate scsi controller |
| 03:12.28 | linux3 | which is not an array controller at all |
| 03:12.29 | Gnea | killown: what's the ip? |
| 03:12.34 | linux3 | it just contains the OS |
| 03:12.37 | linux3 | thats it |
| 03:12.40 | killown | Gnea localhost |
| 03:12.50 | abrotman | killown: check your sshd_config |
| 03:12.53 | jair | I have couple of questions regarding dns on Linux debian I installed bind9 and I really don't know how to create my own "ns1.jair.com" "ns2.jair.com" |
| 03:12.59 | Gnea | killown: that's standard ssh daemon control specification. |
| 03:13.02 | linux3 | the drives on the array are going to be used for backups of other servers on my network |
| 03:13.06 | jair | anyone can recommend me a tutorial? |
| 03:13.06 | linux3 | Gnea, give me one sec |
| 03:13.07 | linux3 | i will brb |
| 03:13.10 | Stevie-O | fatal: Error inserting lirc_dev (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/misc/lirc_dev.ko): Invalid module format |
| 03:13.12 | abrotman | jair: did you install bind9-doc ? |
| 03:13.17 | killown | abrotman, as I permit ssh login root for local users? |
| 03:13.26 | abrotman | uh .. yeah? |
| 03:13.47 | Ronin | killown: on purpose? |
| 03:13.49 | abrotman | Stevie-O: try an 'ls'!! |
| 03:13.52 | Amarande | jair, I think there's a HOWTO for that |
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| 03:14.02 | jair | Amarande: where? |
| 03:14.11 | jair | abrotman: I think so :) |
| 03:14.17 | killown | Ronin, I go logging it only for me |
| 03:14.18 | Amarande | oy, it's been so long I can't remember now |
| 03:14.19 | simonrvn | eh, my prob was something else ... |
| 03:14.24 | Stevie-O | ls: x: No such file or directory |
| 03:14.26 | abrotman | jair: /usr/share/doc/bind9/ARM/ or somerhing ike that |
| 03:14.28 | jair | abrotman: I am not upset with you anymore |
| 03:14.30 | Amarande | Mostly what you need to know is how to make a zone file and where to put it. |
| 03:14.32 | simonrvn | X not x |
| 03:14.34 | streuner | simonrvn: heh |
| 03:14.38 | jair | abrotman: cool |
| 03:14.51 | Stevie-O | abrotman: It just seems so hard to believe that nobody else on this planet has tried to use lirc |
| 03:14.51 | simonrvn | hot |
| 03:14.55 | Stevie-O | and debian |
| 03:14.58 | Stevie-O | at the same time. |
| 03:15.03 | simonrvn | like |
| 03:15.05 | abrotman | Stevie-O: i plan to .. if i ever get that damn miniITX box |
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| 03:15.09 | simonrvn | this? |
| 03:15.19 | streuner | haha |
| 03:15.27 | Stevie-O | abrotman: Looks like you shouldn't bother |
| 03:15.38 | abrotman | Stevie-O: i think you are broken! :) |
| 03:15.50 | Stevie-O | If that is so, please tell me how to repair myself. |
| 03:16.12 | abrotman | Stevie-O: tried using module-assistant ? |
| 03:16.28 | Stevie-O | abrotman: no, what's that? |
| 03:16.33 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 03:16.33 | dpkg | [module-assistant] a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 03:16.57 | simonrvn | ma |
| 03:17.08 | simonrvn | yo'momma |
| 03:17.11 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 03:17.30 | Stevie-O | how do I tell dpkg to tweak what it knows with a regex? |
| 03:17.34 | abrotman | i found a weird file in $HOME .. it's apparently a list of all maintainers and the packages they maintain .. but i have no idea where it came from |
| 03:17.42 | jair | abrotman: it was not installed, I just did it right now |
| 03:17.46 | abrotman | Stevie-O: for what? |
| 03:18.02 | jair | abrotman: so you have your own "ns1.abrotman.com" or something like that. |
| 03:18.15 | abrotman | jair: i don't have my own domain or server |
| 03:19.04 | streuner | knusper:/tmp# ping -c1 abrotman.mine.nu |
| 03:19.04 | streuner | pingu: unknown host abrotman.mine.nu |
| 03:19.06 | Stevie-O | bingo |
| 03:19.15 | abrotman | Stevie-O: ? |
| 03:19.28 | Stevie-O | m-a =~ s/kernel-headers/linux-headers/ |
| 03:19.44 | abrotman | Stevie-O: that's only for etch/sid |
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| 03:20.25 | Stevie-O | fatal: Error inserting lirc_dev (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/misc/lirc_dev.ko): Invalid module format |
| 03:20.27 | abrotman | !m-a is also for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 03:20.27 | dpkg | is: to compile and install also for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) for your running kernel: apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i also for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) && modprobe also for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) ; if this works echo also for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) >> /etc/modules ; also ask me about <m-a> |
| 03:20.39 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:20.50 | Stevie-O | meh. |
| 03:21.03 | abrotman | i have no idea what just happened .. but i'm not going to try again |
| 03:21.08 | jair | abrotman: I though that you knew how to setup bind9? |
| 03:21.19 | abrotman | i have |
| 03:21.20 | Stevie-O | lirc_dev: version magic '2.6.16-2-486 486 gcc-4.1' should be '2.6.16-2-486 486 gcc-4.0' |
| 03:21.29 | jair | abrotman: you have? |
| 03:21.37 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:21.48 | simonrvn | Stevie-O: your kernel was built with gcc 4.0 and the module with 4.1 |
| 03:21.57 | Stevie-O | That was my guess, simonrvn |
| 03:22.10 | Stevie-O | I suppose I shall recompile my kernel, then. |
| 03:22.14 | simonrvn | so it won't accept it bing installed in mem |
| 03:22.14 | jair | Amarande: did you find the tutorial for me? |
| 03:22.15 | abrotman | RAIN!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:22.18 | Stevie-O | this will take a few years. |
| 03:22.18 | simonrvn | being* |
| 03:22.20 | jair | Amarande: :) |
| 03:22.36 | linux3 | Gnea, you still there |
| 03:22.39 | linux3 | i cannot mount the drive |
| 03:22.42 | linux3 | no matter what i do |
| 03:22.47 | linux3 | cannot do anything |
| 03:22.49 | linux3 | won't let me mount |
| 03:22.50 | jair | I am reading about teh fundamentals right now, but that was a how-to from the very bright guy falko timme |
| 03:22.57 | jair | Amarande: are you here? |
| 03:23.03 | linux3 | gives me invalid arguments or needs block device errors |
| 03:23.11 | linux3 | so i guess i will just have to format and reinstall |
| 03:23.13 | linux3 | piece of crap |
| 03:23.19 | abrotman | jair: it's in the Bind ARM |
| 03:23.30 | jair | abrotman: I got that one though :) |
| 03:23.40 | abrotman | did you read it? |
| 03:23.54 | jair | abrotman: so that is all I will need then? |
| 03:23.54 | linux3 | can someone please help me |
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| 03:24.00 | linux3 | this is the most frustrating thing ever |
| 03:24.00 | abrotman | usr/share/doc/bind9-doc/arm/Bv9ARM.html |
| 03:24.07 | linux3 | i just need to edit one damn file |
| 03:24.11 | linux3 | one friggin line |
| 03:24.13 | linux3 | but nope |
| 03:24.17 | abrotman | jair: start reading :) |
| 03:24.22 | linux3 | cannot mount the damn drive for some unknown reason |
| 03:24.51 | linux3 | mount /dev/disks/disk0 doesn't work |
| 03:24.57 | linux3 | mount /dev/disks/disk0 /mount/sda doesn't work |
| 03:25.01 | linux3 | just won't let me |
| 03:25.01 | jair | abrotman: haha yep |
| 03:25.05 | linux3 | anyone know? |
| 03:25.12 | linux3 | what is it labeling the device as |
| 03:25.18 | jair | abrotman: I will print it out right now |
| 03:25.22 | linux3 | i would think /dev/sda |
| 03:25.25 | linux3 | but apparently not |
| 03:25.30 | abrotman | jair: it's kind of big |
| 03:25.51 | insmod | linux3: are you giving the mount location? |
| 03:26.25 | jair | abrotman: thank you for the motivation haha :( |
| 03:26.43 | insmod | mount /dev/hda1 /mointpiont |
| 03:28.06 | tjousk | ... the laptop I'm trying to install on does not have firewire, but the installer says it does... |
| 03:28.32 | abrotman | you do have firewire .. i'veen that laptop |
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| 03:29.09 | insmod | tjousk: router? |
| 03:29.24 | jair | it is ok |
| 03:29.27 | jair | I have to master that |
| 03:29.54 | jair | because that will help me to understand better about dns and dns servers :) |
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| 03:30.03 | Stevie-O | okay |
| 03:30.13 | Stevie-O | somebody !bless me |
| 03:30.15 | linux3 | insmod, ok finally |
| 03:30.17 | tjousk | is going to be a media system, being as it has no lcd, and it's fast enough. |
| 03:30.19 | abrotman | !screw Stevie-O |
| 03:30.22 | abrotman | :( |
| 03:30.28 | abrotman | @screw Stevie-O |
| 03:30.28 | linux3 | insmod, yeah i was. it was saying the device was busy |
| 03:30.29 | itchi | abrotman: Not change to many the brain of dpkg, i try to translate some things of it :-p |
| 03:30.30 | linux3 | when it wasn't |
| 03:30.33 | linux3 | worked finally |
| 03:30.35 | linux3 | now one last thing |
| 03:30.40 | abrotman | itchi: have fun! |
| 03:30.41 | Stevie-O | bah. |
| 03:30.47 | linux3 | what is a text editor i can use durring install? |
| 03:30.48 | abrotman | ravenbird: fuck Stevie-O |
| 03:30.53 | abrotman | yay!! |
| 03:30.53 | linux3 | i tried runing vim |
| 03:30.54 | jair | ok abrotman and the rest of the gurus here good night |
| 03:30.57 | linux3 | but i can't |
| 03:31.00 | jair | I will go to read little bit |
| 03:31.02 | Stevie-O | .... riight. |
| 03:31.06 | linux3 | because it cannot load the shared libraries for it |
| 03:31.09 | jair | and come back with light in my brain |
| 03:31.11 | linux3 | anyone know of one? |
| 03:31.11 | Stevie-O | Anyway, I am now attempting to build a kernel using distcc |
| 03:31.15 | linux3 | a terminal editor |
| 03:31.16 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:31.20 | jair | willing to help other newbies |
| 03:31.21 | jair | :) |
| 03:31.24 | jair | take care |
| 03:31.29 | insmod | tjousk: then you had the wrong name ---- mc |
| 03:31.53 | linux3 | insmod, you know of a text editor i can use while running off of the install cd |
| 03:32.07 | tjousk | what do you mean I have the wron name? |
| 03:32.19 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah ;-), i need somethings funny that analyse the converstations here and report me some 'change sdone/added/removed' of the bot :-/ |
| 03:32.21 | insmod | tjousk: mc |
| 03:32.51 | insmod | tjousk: sorry wrong person |
| 03:32.56 | tjousk | heh |
| 03:33.03 | insmod | linux3: then you had the wrong name ---- mc |
| 03:33.40 | itchi | abrotman: I take some interesting parts of dpkg to add it to the bot for on #debian-belgium |
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| 03:34.44 | Joshua5150 | I'm having problems writting to my smb folder |
| 03:35.29 | james_null | hello everybody, what partition would you use ? |
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| 03:35.59 | Joshua5150 | this is my fstab //yoda/joshua /mnt/joshua smbfs credentials=/home/mainframe/.smbpasswd,uid=1004,gid=100 0 0 |
| 03:36.06 | epsilon | I have good experience with primary partition, hear extended is fine to |
| 03:36.30 | amphi | james_null: what do you mean? |
| 03:36.40 | linux3 | insmod, ??? text editor |
| 03:36.41 | Joshua5150 | root can write to the folder but regular user can't |
| 03:36.53 | james_null | xfs, jfs, rfs, ext3 fs ? |
| 03:37.02 | insmod | linux3: mc |
| 03:37.15 | Joshua5150 | by the way its a fat32 partition |
| 03:37.16 | amphi | james_null: ah, filesystems - I use xfs, which seems to work well |
| 03:37.35 | epsilon | ext3, xfs |
| 03:38.15 | linux3 | insmod, i don't have that text editor |
| 03:38.17 | linux3 | so now what? |
| 03:38.26 | amphi | james_null: I've used reiser3 quite a lot, and only had a problem with it once, which rebuild-tree fixed, but many have horror stories about it |
| 03:38.36 | amphi | linux3: nano? |
| 03:38.37 | insmod | linux3: joe? |
| 03:39.01 | amphi | james_null: OTOH, I had an ext3 fs blow up on me for no obvious reason |
| 03:39.02 | insmod | linux3: can't you just install mc |
| 03:39.33 | james_null | amphi: then i'll try xfs :) thank you for your tip :) |
| 03:39.40 | epsilon | of course xfs is only recommended if you use 2.6 kernel |
| 03:39.52 | Joshua5150 | anyone can help me out? |
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| 03:41.33 | james_null | amphi: for an mp3 partition ? files will be read on by one |
| 03:41.44 | amphi | Joshua5150: the 'using samba' book is online at openbooks.oreilly.com |
| 03:41.52 | linux3 | insmod, ok i had nano |
| 03:41.55 | linux3 | thanks amphi |
| 03:42.01 | linux3 | well back to where i left off |
| 03:42.07 | linux3 | how to get the cpqarray module to work |
| 03:42.22 | linux3 | modprobe cpqarray does start the module |
| 03:42.28 | linux3 | but it doesn't find anything |
| 03:42.29 | amphi | james_null: I imagine it would be fine for that, as would ext3 |
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| 03:43.49 | james_null | amphi: and what about a /tmp partition, whatever linux operates with it is still obscure to me |
| 03:44.11 | amphi | james_null: whatever you like, really |
| 03:44.33 | Amarande | I had a file spontaneously corrupt on me once in ext3. |
| 03:44.36 | linux3 | dmesg shows: |
| 03:44.41 | linux3 | EISA: slot 3 : CPQ4020 detected. |
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| 03:45.13 | james_null | amphi: but what if i don't care ? jk, thank you for your support :) |
| 03:45.14 | amphi | Amarande: my whole fs vanished into /lost+found on booting, after a clean shutdown ;) |
| 03:45.27 | Gnea | linux3: what kernel are you using? |
| 03:45.36 | linux3 | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 03:45.54 | Amarande | amphi, did you manage to recover it? |
| 03:46.21 | linux3 | all my machines are ext3 and i have never had any issues |
| 03:46.24 | linux3 | except for in mandriva |
| 03:46.46 | amphi | Amarande: no; directories had become files and vice versa from what I could see |
| 03:47.15 | amphi | Amarande: it wasn't worth the trouble, it was trashed |
| 03:47.22 | linux3 | Gnea, anything? |
| 03:47.46 | linux3 | if i could figure out what device is using address 0x3000 |
| 03:47.49 | Gnea | linux3: there aren't any /dev/cpq* files? |
| 03:48.10 | Gnea | cat /proc/ioports |
| 03:48.45 | linux3 | is 4 lines flooding? |
| 03:48.52 | Gnea | yeah |
| 03:48.55 | Gnea | aptitude: paster |
| 03:48.55 | aptitude | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
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| 03:49.41 | itchi | linux3: lspci --help ?? |
| 03:49.55 | linux3 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2926 |
| 03:50.04 | linux3 | itchi, its not a pci card |
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| 03:50.39 | linux3 | 3000-30ff : Compaq SMART Array Controller |
| 03:50.47 | Gnea | yeah |
| 03:50.49 | linux3 | it has four addresses if you look at the link |
| 03:51.03 | linux3 | Gnea, so that is what i expected so far |
| 03:51.08 | linux3 | now what am i doing wrong |
| 03:51.10 | linux3 | that is the question |
| 03:51.11 | Stevie-O | still compiling. geez. |
| 03:51.47 | Amarande | Stevie-O, until you've compiled X on a 486-66, don't complain about compiling times. :) |
| 03:52.28 | Gnea | linux3: i'm not sure |
| 03:52.41 | linux3 | Amarande, hey it takes around a day to compile a kernel on this machine |
| 03:52.45 | linux3 | p3 1.0ghz |
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| 03:53.12 | itchi | linux3: Sure everything goes goed @ home :-/ |
| 03:53.20 | itchi | oo |
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| 03:53.42 | linux3 | itchi, i get better compile speeds on my servers |
| 03:53.45 | itchi | linux3: It not take a day or ... |
| 03:53.47 | linux3 | which are all p2's |
| 03:53.57 | linux3 | itchi, it takes about a day |
| 03:53.59 | linux3 | 24 hours |
| 03:54.24 | itchi | linux3: Home many seconds?, like your on the way :-p |
| 03:54.37 | linux3 | lol |
| 03:54.42 | linux3 | no idea |
| 03:54.51 | linux3 | haven't compiled on this machine in ages |
| 03:55.03 | linux3 | i just remember the few times i did |
| 03:55.08 | linux3 | horribly slow |
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| 03:55.30 | Amarande | linux3: geez |
| 03:55.36 | Amarande | what's your system use for memory, pencil and paper? :) |
| 03:55.50 | Amarande | What I remmeber though is it took about 14 hours to compile X on that box. |
| 03:55.53 | linux3 | only 256mb ram |
| 03:56.03 | linux3 | but it has 1.0GB swap space |
| 03:56.07 | Amarande | Yeah, a pencil would probably be faster |
| 03:56.34 | linux3 | ok now about cpqarray |
| 03:56.45 | linux3 | let me get you guys the error my comp was throwing me |
| 03:58.08 | linux3 | Compaq SMART2 Driver (v 2.6.0) |
| 03:58.14 | linux3 | that shows up in dmesg |
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| 03:59.54 | drbean_ | How do I stop Gnome terminal interfering with bash's readline key bindings. |
| 04:00.32 | dabreegster | /c/c |
| 04:00.38 | dabreegster | Er, trying to /clear, sorry |
| 04:01.26 | Cashel | OFTC? |
| 04:01.44 | Cashel | ahhh |
| 04:01.46 | drbean_ | It's very annoying having alt-b not mean back to the previous word. |
| 04:01.46 | Cashel | nm |
| 04:03.28 | linux3 | ok im rebooting that comp |
| 04:03.33 | linux3 | let me see if i can get it to work |
| 04:03.34 | linux3 | i will brb |
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| 04:05.39 | Piet | drbean_: there's a menu option in gnomre terminal which is meant for just that |
| 04:07.53 | drbean_ | Oh, yes I remember. But doesn't that mean I have to disable all shortcut keys? |
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| 04:08.08 | stranger_stone | Hello. |
| 04:08.56 | stranger_stone | isthis normal i spent 24 hours of my live try toinstall mplayer owatch onemovie in linux whithsubtitles? orim getting stupid ? |
| 04:09.07 | Piet | drbean_: no, just the menu shortcuts |
| 04:09.22 | stranger_stone | or something |
| 04:09.23 | dabreegster | stranger_stone: It really shouldn't take that long. What's been giving you trouble? |
| 04:10.14 | stranger_stone | dabreegster that what i like to know |
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| 04:10.38 | dabreegster | stranger_stone: What went wrong? Does mplayer work at all for any movies? |
| 04:10.46 | dabreegster | stranger_stone: Are you trying to play directly off a DVD? |
| 04:11.50 | drbean_ | Piet: I guess I'll be doing that. Thing is ... It would be good to have alt-f to open the file menu, if only it didn't mean next word for readline. |
| 04:12.08 | stranger_stone | well the problema is neither one thing neither another |
| 04:12.51 | dabreegster | stranger_stone: Well what is it? By the way, if you'd prefer getting help in another language, there are other channels that may be able to help. What are you fluent in? |
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| 04:13.16 | itchi | stranger_stone: Explain what it is then??? |
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| 04:14.19 | drbean_ | Mmh. It's strange that you can choose different accelerators for the menu items, but not the menu access keys. |
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| 04:15.01 | stranger_stone | well that what i like to know to can explain |
| 04:15.21 | menko | hi, how come more fonts show up in some applications than others? In switch2(gk2 themes), kcontrol, katoob(gtk2 text editor), opera, firefox there are many more fonts than abiword and openoffice. |
| 04:15.34 | drbean_ | I see that <F-10> will open the File Menu and then I can use <Left> to get the different menus. |
| 04:16.38 | menko | in sid by the way |
| 04:16.50 | itchi | menko: /msg dpkg fonts help it? |
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| 04:17.10 | stranger_stone | dabreegster i speak a litle english thank you no need |
| 04:17.44 | itchi | stranger_stone: What's your native language ? |
| 04:17.50 | dabreegster | stranger_stone: OK. Well, can you please describe what's been giving you trouble? And have you been able to use mplayer at all so far? |
| 04:17.50 | drbean_ | So, I am disabling menu access keys. |
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| 04:18.14 | menko | itchi: I'll check it out |
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| 04:20.05 | stranger_stone | dabreegster sometimes works fine then but msising other stuff then i make it again and dont work again whith another mistake and i make the same thing to the 1º time but in the 2º the samething dontwork |
| 04:20.13 | stranger_stone | beutiful |
| 04:20.29 | stranger_stone | leave it thanksi try toresolve it dont worry |
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| 04:23.55 | menko | don't abiword and openoffice us fontconfig? fc-list shows up the missing fonts. |
| 04:24.15 | rxed | firefox crashes on my computer if i open this website http://www.gizmag.con/go/5785/ |
| 04:24.39 | rxed | i can't stand the POS. I'm considering Opera now. |
| 04:24.53 | cinix | rxed, link doesn't even work for me |
| 04:24.59 | maikol | me niehter |
| 04:25.08 | cinix | wow my internet's broken |
| 04:25.12 | rxed | maybe i copied it wrong. |
| 04:25.22 | rxed | i can't tell because.. guess what... firefox POS crashed again. |
| 04:25.22 | cinix | nothing is working for me anymore. :-/ |
| 04:25.31 | cinix | oh :-) |
| 04:26.05 | maikol | what package do i get for the X11 headers |
| 04:26.05 | Amarande | Firefox on Linux apparently crashes if I go to the New Fairfield, Connecticut wikipedia page too. |
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| 04:26.31 | rxed | www.gizmag.com/go/5785/ |
| 04:26.57 | maikol | rxed: doesnt crash for me |
| 04:27.23 | rxed | maikol: Firefox is very veery unstable on my box. It's POS. Lots of people are complaing about it. |
| 04:27.37 | rxed | maikol: what version? |
| 04:27.50 | menko | yah doesnme either |
| 04:27.54 | menko | crash |
| 04:28.07 | linux3 | ok here is the error im getting with cpqarray |
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| 04:28.24 | maikol | rxed: 1.5.0.4 |
| 04:28.46 | rxed | I'm ditching it. It's crap. I need something reliable. This is my production machine. |
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| 04:29.18 | linux3 | cpqarray: I/O range already in use addr = 3000 length = 2047 |
| 04:29.22 | menko | Well if it doesn't crash for us it must be a problem with your installation... |
| 04:29.24 | drogers | Does anybody have problems/know how to fix problems wherein Firefox will not print documents, but all other apps will? How do I set up Firefox in Sarge to be able to print? |
| 04:29.54 | maikol | rxed: you have any extensions? |
| 04:30.09 | rxed | drogers: ah, yes! I had the same problem with firefox today. |
| 04:30.28 | rxed | drogers: for some reason firefox won't pring and it stops cupsd. solution; diss the POS. |
| 04:30.53 | rxed | maikol: no, i uninstalled them all. it didn't help. |
| 04:31.14 | drogers | rxed, so stop using firefox? |
| 04:31.19 | menko | rxed: try running it from the terminal, which version of firefox and debian are you using? |
| 04:31.52 | drogers | menko, rxed and i seem to be having the same problem. what can i do to fix this? |
| 04:32.15 | rxed | menko: look... i tried everything under the sky. Firefox is crapola in my book. I'm using opera now. Opera beta is more stable. |
| 04:32.57 | menko | rxed: Opera 9 stable is out, I use opera myself and do prefer it. |
| 04:33.40 | menko | but I've always found firefox to be very stable, it's never crashed |
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| 04:34.20 | rxed | menko: google for it and you'll see that there are many maaany people complaining about firefox on linux. |
| 04:34.36 | drogers | rxed, yes but it is what i use. do you know how i can fix this problem? |
| 04:35.07 | rxed | drogers: no. i don't know how to fix it. i'm not firefox developer. use opera or something more stable. |
| 04:35.08 | menko | drogers: try running from terminal and also try a fresh profile, |
| 04:35.49 | menko | drogers: and if you're using the debian build try the mozilla build |
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| 04:37.11 | Gruntled | hello all |
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| 04:37.18 | drogers | does anybody know if Ubuntu is all-free and open source software or if they are lying? i heard some guy ranting about that in an IRC room not so long ago ... |
| 04:37.57 | Gruntled | it's all free. you can install closed-licensed packages after the install |
| 04:38.26 | drogers | menko, i get the error lpr: PSC-1300: unknown printer |
| 04:39.05 | insmod | drogers: can you print with lpr? |
| 04:39.16 | drogers | insmod, i do not know what that is or even if i have the package installed :-)_ |
| 04:39.25 | Gruntled | run lpc, then status PSC-1300. if it isn't there, install it with lpadmin |
| 04:39.37 | insmod | drogers: that could be why |
| 04:39.52 | drogers | insmod, do i need to install lpadmin? |
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| 04:41.03 | insmod | drogers: well you need lpr -- but if you are using cups you need the cups version |
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| 04:41.15 | drogers | insmod, so cupsadmin? |
| 04:42.00 | insmod | drogers: http://localhost:631/admin |
| 04:42.33 | insmod | drogers: do you use cups? |
| 04:42.40 | drogers | insmod, yes ... |
| 04:42.46 | drogers | insmod, i got it |
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| 04:53.47 | maikol | what to install for X11 headers |
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| 04:54.46 | Supaplex | foo-dev |
| 04:54.58 | tnks | Is there only a finite set of possible keysyms to use with Xmodmap? Or can any string be used? If the list is finite, where can I find a complete set? |
| 04:56.23 | tnks | I looked at /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB, but this seems to only be some "extra" keys, and I'm not even sure whether it's all of them. |
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| 04:59.08 | iiiears | tnks - This is what i have on mapping media keys http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76271 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039 |
| 04:59.48 | insmod | tnks: why not use hotkeys |
| 05:00.10 | stoned | omg! i am successfully installing debian on that laptop now~ |
| 05:00.12 | stoned | as we speak |
| 05:00.16 | stoned | sweet! |
| 05:00.27 | iiiears | insmod - some keys aren't mapped to anything. |
| 05:00.44 | insmod | iiiears: that's ok |
| 05:00.45 | Supaplex | s/speak/chat/ |
| 05:01.28 | insmod | iiiears: just write your own definition -- i wrote one for my wirless labtec key & mouse |
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| 05:11.53 | falkon | Okay, I'm having a problem with Etch and ALSA. I have alsa installed and it's detecting my sound card, but when I try to play something in XMMS, I just get an error saying there's a sound problem. Anyone had this happen? |
| 05:12.15 | falkon | oh, and I've selected alsa as the output driver with no luck |
| 05:12.27 | dabreegster | "A sound problem." What's the exact error? |
| 05:12.36 | falkon | let me see |
| 05:12.40 | menko | falkon: can you play sound outside of alsa? try aplay or play on a wav file. |
| 05:12.48 | menko | I mean outside of xmms... |
| 05:13.11 | falkon | Please check that your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcard |
| 05:13.19 | falkon | let me see |
| 05:13.48 | maikol | falkon: same thing happend to me |
| 05:15.06 | falkon | well, I know I get the same sort of error with mplayer |
| 05:15.34 | falkon | output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' shows my card |
| 05:16.01 | falkon | I've never had this problem, but dist-upgrade from stable to testing does weird things sometimes |
| 05:16.16 | insmod | falkon: with mplayer just edit ~.mplayer/config as for xmms make sure alsa is running not oss |
| 05:16.38 | falkon | insmod: I selected ALSA as the output driver on xmms wiht no luck |
| 05:16.57 | maikol | falkon: what desktop |
| 05:17.13 | falkon | XFCE4 |
| 05:17.21 | falkon | err is that what you meant? |
| 05:17.29 | maikol | do you have esd enabled |
| 05:17.31 | maikol | yeah |
| 05:17.32 | insmod | falkon: ya but if alsa isn't running it won't work |
| 05:17.44 | falkon | as far as I know, alsa is running |
| 05:17.50 | maikol | sudo /etc/init.d/alsa reload |
| 05:17.55 | falkon | and esd is not enabled |
| 05:18.24 | falkon | maikol: I've tried this as well |
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| 05:18.41 | maikol | is xmms the only one having problems |
| 05:18.51 | falkon | no, mplayer gives me a similar error |
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| 05:19.03 | falkon | I think something is tying up the card, but I don't know what |
| 05:19.11 | maikol | any other sound players? mpg321, totem? |
| 05:19.22 | maikol | thats why i thought you had esd |
| 05:19.37 | falkon | okay, I'm trying something |
| 05:19.44 | maikol | but it should work unless something is using oss |
| 05:19.49 | falkon | apt-get remove xfce4-mixer |
| 05:20.03 | insmod | falkon: do you use any kde apts? |
| 05:20.32 | falkon | insmod: no |
| 05:20.55 | insmod | could try killall -9 artsd just in case |
| 05:21.03 | falkon | k |
| 05:21.15 | falkon | nope, not running |
| 05:21.38 | falkon | I've never had this happen. It's very strange. If I run alsamixergui, my card shows up just fine |
| 05:21.39 | maikol | falkon: is you force-reload alsa it will stop everything accessing it |
| 05:21.46 | insmod | falkon: did you configure the driver in xmms |
| 05:22.01 | falkon | insmod: yes |
| 05:22.17 | insmod | falkon: does the oss driver work |
| 05:22.29 | falkon | Is there something I can do to test whether or not the resource is being used and by what? |
| 05:23.08 | falkon | oh holy crap |
| 05:23.14 | falkon | I think I know what the problem is |
| 05:23.25 | falkon | I bet my user isn't added to the audio group |
| 05:23.33 | maikol | that helps |
| 05:24.14 | maikol | you might need to restart x for it to take effect |
| 05:24.33 | falkon | let me try |
| 05:24.35 | falkon | brb |
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| 05:31.24 | linux2 | can someone help me with this error |
| 05:33.06 | maikol | linux2: you might want to say what the error is |
| 05:33.20 | linux2 | cpqarray: I/O range already in use addr = 3000 length = 2047 |
| 05:33.21 | deadcat | linux2: use usb |
| 05:33.31 | linux2 | i have been searching through google and found nothing |
| 05:33.33 | linux2 | nothing at all |
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| 05:33.53 | linux2 | all of the things i say run modprobe cpqarray eisa=0x300 |
| 05:33.58 | linux2 | 3000* |
| 05:34.01 | linux2 | and i am |
| 05:34.10 | linux2 | i have spend around 6 hours on this |
| 05:34.12 | linux2 | and still nothing |
| 05:34.15 | linux2 | same friggin error |
| 05:34.18 | linux2 | over and over again |
| 05:34.18 | deadcat | !tell linux2 about enter |
| 05:34.26 | linux2 | and now modprobe is locked up |
| 05:34.33 | insmod | linux2: dmesg | grep 3000 |
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| 05:35.03 | linux2 | cpqarray: I/O range already in use addr = 3000 length = 2047 |
| 05:35.29 | insmod | linux2: that is in dmesg? |
| 05:35.34 | linux2 | insmod, yep |
| 05:35.38 | linux2 | all of dmesg is that |
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| 05:35.49 | falkon | OKAY! I figured something out |
| 05:35.58 | falkon | I added my user to audio group, but still no sound |
| 05:36.01 | insmod | linux2: pull some cards |
| 05:36.03 | falkon | root has sound |
| 05:36.10 | falkon | user does not |
| 05:36.23 | insmod | falkon: xmms work with root |
| 05:36.28 | falkon | yes |
| 05:36.30 | linux2 | insmod, why? |
| 05:36.33 | linux2 | it won't do anything |
| 05:36.41 | insmod | falkon: are the users muted |
| 05:36.45 | linux2 | cause the compaq card is the onlything running on that address |
| 05:36.49 | zethreth | I'm trying to boot from the ARM netinst cd and it's not working. Any idea why it might not be working ? It's a image, it should boot, it doesn't. |
| 05:36.51 | linux2 | 3000-30ff : Compaq SMART Array Controller |
| 05:36.59 | insmod | linux2: ya if a card uses that address |
| 05:37.00 | linux2 | along with around 3 other lines that are similar to that |
| 05:37.13 | insmod | linux2: ya i know what it is |
| 05:37.23 | linux2 | insmod, well it makes no sense |
| 05:37.32 | linux2 | cause if i need to type in eisa=0x3000 |
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| 05:37.47 | insmod | linux2: sure it doe did you look in /proc |
| 05:37.53 | linux2 | to get it to find the card, why does cpqarray then say that the address is in use |
| 05:38.01 | linux2 | duhh its in use. that is the fucking card |
| 05:38.08 | linux2 | insmod, yeah i did |
| 05:38.36 | insmod | linux2: anything ? |
| 05:38.45 | linux2 | insmod, nothing that i haven't already seen |
| 05:38.57 | linux2 | what would i be looking for anyways. i checked /proc/ioports |
| 05:38.59 | maikol | falkon: any luck? |
| 05:39.06 | linux2 | and the compaq array controller shows up around 4 times |
| 05:39.20 | linux2 | at 4 different addresses within 0x3000 |
| 05:39.23 | insmod | linux2: what does lsmod say is loaded -- unload all that you can to test |
| 05:40.12 | linux2 | insmod, i cannot unload cpqarray |
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| 05:40.18 | linux2 | because it is "in use" |
| 05:40.29 | linux2 | and i cannot kill the modprobe command for some unknown reason |
| 05:40.46 | linux2 | and this is pissing me of so fucking much cause there is absolutely no reason why it should not work |
| 05:40.47 | linux2 | none |
| 05:41.02 | insmod | linux2: ah i get you |
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| 05:41.44 | linux2 | basically the module cpqarray is doing what it should not |
| 05:42.03 | insmod | linux2: does it load in /etc/init.d |
| 05:42.04 | linux2 | cause it should not be saying that the port is in use. of course it is in use. it is the card i am trying to get cpqarray to see |
| 05:42.30 | linux2 | insmod, cpqarray? |
| 05:42.32 | linux2 | no it doesn't |
| 05:42.48 | insmod | linux2: where |
| 05:42.56 | linux2 | in /etc/init.d |
| 05:43.00 | linux2 | ok here is what i did |
| 05:43.04 | linux2 | i turned on the comp |
| 05:43.20 | linux2 | once it booted i ran modprobe cpqarray eisa=0x3000 |
| 05:43.25 | falkon | insmod: how do I check if the users are muted? |
| 05:43.27 | linux2 | like every website i see says |
| 05:43.43 | insmod | falkon: run a mixer |
| 05:43.46 | linux2 | and then modprobe just kinda lags, so i have to ssh as another user |
| 05:43.59 | falkon | insmod: it won't let me run alsamixergui as a user |
| 05:44.07 | linux2 | and then check dmesg, and dmesg is loaded with those errors i have been showing and i am unable to kill modprobe |
| 05:44.10 | falkon | says something like snt_ctrl not found |
| 05:44.13 | linux2 | and unload the cpqarray module |
| 05:44.18 | insmod | falkon: try another |
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| 05:45.03 | linux2 | so i have to reboot the damn comp and try again and again and again, taking hours and hours of time and im not even getting any closer, i don't see where the problem is or what im doing wrong because everything is 100% how it says to do it online |
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| 05:45.46 | insmod | linux2: k it may be that you have the wrong address -- reboot and before you load check dmesg as well as /var/log |
| 05:45.54 | falkon | brb |
| 05:45.56 | some_dude | how can i tell who owns a file ? |
| 05:45.59 | falkon | thanks for your help so far |
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| 05:46.18 | linux2 | insmod, doesn't say what the address is in dmesg |
| 05:46.27 | linux2 | it just says that an eisa device is found on port 3 |
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| 05:46.31 | linux2 | which is 0x3000 |
| 05:46.34 | insmod | some_dude: ls -al |
| 05:46.37 | maikol | some_dude: stat file |
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| 05:46.48 | linux2 | insmod, i will reboot, if you can would you ssh in and take a look at it |
| 05:47.08 | linux2 | cause im at the point where i just need this to work so i can get some sleep |
| 05:47.16 | insmod | linux2:sure |
| 05:47.22 | jiken | Hi, anyone using PrismGT wireless dongle? I need help with it |
| 05:47.35 | linux2 | insmod, ok give me one sec. takes about 5 or so minutes to reboot that comp |
| 05:48.44 | jiken | ping |
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| 05:51.31 | liable | !tell jiken about smart questions |
| 05:51.37 | giacus | G morning |
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| 05:53.05 | zethreth | is there a way to run a iso installer image a running system? |
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| 05:53.32 | linux2 | insmod, you get my msg? |
| 05:53.37 | liable | that didnt make muh sense |
| 05:53.41 | liable | much* |
| 05:54.04 | insmod | linux2:what one |
| 05:54.07 | zethreth | Is there a way to install linux on a partition without booting a install cd |
| 05:54.24 | linux2 | insmod, im in xchat and i opened up a dialog window with you |
| 05:54.38 | linux2 | not sure exactly where that is showing up on your client |
| 05:54.46 | liable | zethreth: yes. you can debootstrap or get an installer kernel and initrd |
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| 05:54.52 | insmod | linux2:ya i got it |
| 05:55.09 | liable | zethreth: check the install guide for ways to install. |
| 05:55.11 | linux2 | insmod, ok give me one sec and you will be able to login to it |
| 05:55.57 | jiken | I downloaded and compiled islsm to use my Belkin 802.11g USB dongle, but it screwed up my internal wireless card. It seems that islsm borrows 802.11 layer from madwifi codes, and the some modules compiled from islsm overwrote modules for madwifi. |
| 05:56.13 | liable | eww |
| 05:56.55 | liable | jiken: you can probably define a path for them to keep it all seperate |
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| 06:00.34 | jiken | liable: I think there will be dependency problem if I put modules with same name in different paths under the same kernel tree. |
| 06:01.00 | liable | jiken: oh, what modules are they? |
| 06:02.05 | linux2 | insmod, anything? |
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| 06:02.40 | jiken | liable: wlan.ko wlan_acl.ko wlan_ccmp.ko wlan_tkip.ko wlan_wep.ko wlan_xauth.ko |
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| 06:03.44 | EvilSporkMan | how can i create a list of installed packages suitable for reinstalling them automatically after i repartition? |
| 06:04.06 | jiken | liable: both islsm and madwifi depend on them, but when I compiled islsm, they were overwritten. I get unresolved symbols when I tried to load madwifi. |
| 06:04.15 | sid | EvilSporkMan: dpkg -al|awk '{ print $2 }' |
| 06:04.16 | liable | jiken: hrm, the modules.dep should ensure that the right ones get called depending on the card, but yeah, i dunno how both could be loaded at the same time |
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| 06:04.35 | EvilSporkMan | alternatively, how can i safely back up my entire root partition (contains everything but /home) such that i can restore _everything_ with permissions after repartitioning |
| 06:04.44 | EvilSporkMan | i would prefer the latter |
| 06:04.54 | liable | EvilSporkMan: /msg dpkg selections |
| 06:05.10 | liable | EvilSporkMan: /msg dpkg hard drive upgrade |
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| 06:06.01 | liable | jiken: i guess ask on one of the dev lists for the cards would be the best bet |
| 06:06.15 | EvilSporkMan | will dpkg's hard drive upgrade link work even if i am running udev? |
| 06:06.51 | liable | good question |
| 06:07.05 | jiken | liable: Okay, I will try that. Thanks. |
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| 06:07.33 | linux2 | insmod, ??? |
| 06:08.42 | insmod | linux2:ya |
| 06:09.03 | linux2 | insmod, you connect? see anything? |
| 06:09.14 | evilgeek | nothing will work if you're running udev. |
| 06:09.17 | zethreth | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm/apas01.html.en ........ ok so now it's just a matter of booting the initrd. So how do I do that. I've been searching for the explination to this for quite some time now. |
| 06:09.27 | insmod | linux2: k here is were i am -- i loads on boot as per a kernel module parameter -- not cpqarray |
| 06:09.49 | liable | evilgeek: its been quite good lately actually |
| 06:09.50 | insmod | linux2: i=it |
| 06:10.10 | linux2 | insmod, is that because it is statically part of the kernel or something like that |
| 06:10.15 | linux2 | i read that somewhere |
| 06:10.22 | insmod | linux2: ya |
| 06:10.36 | linux2 | insmod, so you think it would work if i did that |
| 06:10.40 | EvilSporkMan | perhaps i'll just resize my root partition in place instead of erasing it. goal is to grow /, shrink /opt, and have room for a windows partition as a result. |
| 06:10.42 | evilgeek | liable: really? freaky. i've gotten used to vetoing aptitude whenever it tries to install udev anywhere. |
| 06:10.46 | insmod | linux2: use the kernel version or dump it and use yours |
| 06:10.55 | liable | EvilSporkMan: i dont see why not. |
| 06:11.02 | linux2 | added append=smart2=0x3000 |
| 06:11.08 | EvilSporkMan | well, it is reiserfs |
| 06:11.15 | liable | evilgeek: yeah, it had a bad run a while back, but it hasnt broken for me in ages. |
| 06:11.23 | EvilSporkMan | i've been informed that $FILE_SYSTEM would've been a better choice. |
| 06:12.02 | insmod | linux2: are you a newb? |
| 06:12.21 | linux2 | insmod, well 3 years of linux, about 2 weeks on debian |
| 06:12.36 | liable | EvilSporkMan: this thread gives a clue about the udev thing though .. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/534238.html |
| 06:12.42 | insmod | linux2: they are all the same on the command line :) |
| 06:13.07 | insmod | linux2: let me see if i can tell what is loaded |
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| 06:13.11 | linux2 | i have just never had to do this before |
| 06:13.20 | linux2 | insmod, still learning here |
| 06:13.23 | linux2 | lol |
| 06:13.25 | linux2 | like always |
| 06:13.42 | linux2 | the second this works im going to sleep |
| 06:13.43 | linux2 | lol |
| 06:14.07 | EvilSporkMan | liable, that thread does a bitwise copy of the partitions or something to that effect |
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| 06:14.38 | insmod | linux2: this is my 10th year with linux lol |
| 06:14.45 | EvilSporkMan | i don't have that option as I'm resizing partitions here. |
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| 06:14.55 | dtb | hmm.. i would like to emulate a server on another server.. reason: 2 servers in a datacenter. one of them has been off for 12 hours and the DC isnt responding to reboot requests. i have a backup of the dead server. i would like to create a virtual machine on the live server and assign 4 extra IP addresses to it .. so it picks up traffic going to the dead server.. what emulation software should i be looking at? thx in advance |
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| 06:15.32 | insmod | linux2: how did you compile it ? you have no src |
| 06:15.45 | linux2 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=1404& |
| 06:15.55 | stoned | what is a good standalone shortcut bar/panel type thingy for X, minimal, with the option of which screen/display to put it on, in a dual head system |
| 06:16.06 | linux2 | insmod, the module? it came pre-compiled with the kernel as far as i know |
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| 06:16.51 | insmod | linux2: k |
| 06:17.08 | linux2 | that link might help |
| 06:17.10 | linux2 | not sure |
| 06:18.03 | EvilSporkMan | stoned, perhaps pypanel? |
| 06:19.21 | evilgeek | liable: i still don't understand why udev exists, actually. |
| 06:20.49 | stoned | I trie perlpanel |
| 06:21.01 | stoned | when I try to run it through ssh -X remotely, I get this error |
| 06:21.09 | stoned | Xlib: connection to "desktop:0.0" refused by server |
| 06:21.13 | stoned | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 06:21.20 | stoned | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: desktop:0 |
| 06:21.23 | linux2 | insmod, this work: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/sdb1 ro smart2=0x3000 |
| 06:21.36 | stoned | X11 forwarding is good |
| 06:21.41 | stoned | I set the display too |
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| 06:21.47 | stoned | it seems like an auth problem does it? |
| 06:22.04 | stoned | what could be causing this error |
| 06:23.01 | dtb | stoned, try running `xhost+` |
| 06:23.09 | dtb | xhost + |
| 06:23.11 | linux2 | insmod, that is in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 06:23.24 | dtb | oh.. thru ssh |
| 06:23.53 | stoned | what all do I need to enable in sshd_config |
| 06:23.58 | stoned | X11Forwarding yes |
| 06:24.01 | stoned | what else? |
| 06:24.04 | dtb | yes. restart ssh |
| 06:24.22 | stoned | I didn't have to put this in, it was already enabled by defualt |
| 06:24.33 | stoned | should I restart ssh still? |
| 06:25.40 | liable | evilgeek: its pretty cool actually. have a read of this http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
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| 06:26.25 | stoned | well |
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| 06:26.31 | dtb | stoned, what is the X11DisplayOffset set to? |
| 06:26.37 | stoned | its fine now |
| 06:26.37 | stoned | thanks |
| 06:26.51 | stoned | I didn't restart anything either, I just simply logged out and logged back in |
| 06:26.56 | stoned | thts all i did and now it works |
| 06:26.58 | dtb | cool\ |
| 06:27.02 | stoned | fucking cryptic shit |
| 06:27.03 | evilgeek | liable: i mean, i don't see what was wrong with just having an assload of files in /dev. |
| 06:27.04 | insmod | linux2: k u want the module loaded ? |
| 06:27.09 | stoned | linux is a mystery |
| 06:27.10 | evilgeek | special files, rather. |
| 06:27.18 | stoned | seriously it makes me feel like my pc is possessed, but hey |
| 06:27.26 | linux2 | insmod, yeah give it a try |
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| 06:27.39 | insmod | linux2: it is Module Size Used by |
| 06:27.39 | insmod | cpqarray 23096 1 |
| 06:27.40 | evilSporkMan | windows possesses your computer and _won't_ tell you about it |
| 06:28.19 | linux2 | insmod, ok but still it doesn't do anything |
| 06:28.26 | linux2 | it doesn't find the controller |
| 06:28.38 | evilSporkMan | special files are satan |
| 06:28.45 | insmod | linux2: k hang let me reload it |
| 06:28.49 | linux2 | k |
| 06:29.06 | evilSporkMan | ok, about to embark on a magical journey of partition resizing and angst |
| 06:29.13 | liable | evilgeek: it works, but you can do some cool stuff with udev that you cant with static dev, but then again, static dev doesnt break shit :) |
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| 06:31.03 | linux2 | insmod, what you doing? |
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| 06:31.23 | liable | ivman roxorz |
| 06:34.21 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:34.22 | dpkg | [qotd34] < primoturbo> how do I delete linux? < primoturbo> how do I delete debain and get something else < AciD> primoturbo > rm-rf / < primoturbo> Should I try OpenBSD? < asg> primoturbo: hahah |
| 06:34.59 | linux2 | insmod, modprobe is using up 75% of the processor |
| 06:35.10 | stoned | hey how come non-free contains 1.5.0.06 JRE? |
| 06:35.21 | stoned | I thougth java had some liscencing issues |
| 06:35.47 | stoned | when did this happen, how come I don't know, WHAT ELSE haven't you told me! |
| 06:36.05 | linux2 | insmod, of if i go off suddenly its cause i lost power |
| 06:36.16 | linux2 | but my servers will stay on and i will be able to get on my laptop |
| 06:36.40 | cahoot | stoned: you don't want to know |
| 06:37.57 | stoned | cahoot, I don't? are you sure? |
| 06:37.58 | insmod | linux2: /etc/init.d# cpqarrayd |
| 06:37.58 | insmod | Checking for controllers.. |
| 06:37.58 | insmod | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.59 | insmod | You don't seem to have any controllers |
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| 06:38.29 | stoned | just curious, hell, i don't have to make java package myself |
| 06:38.37 | stoned | im a happy guy, but still curious |
| 06:38.37 | linux2 | insmod, that is because cpqarray module does not find the card |
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| 06:39.45 | insmod | linux2: ya i see that |
| 06:40.01 | linux2 | insmod, need me to reboot the machine |
| 06:40.07 | linux2 | i think im going to test the boot option |
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| 06:40.14 | linux2 | smart2=0x3000 |
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| 06:40.26 | linux2 | just incase it is compiled in the kernel |
| 06:40.29 | linux2 | see what happens |
| 06:41.09 | insmod | linux2: i figured it out |
| 06:41.16 | linux2 | yeah!!!??? |
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| 06:42.02 | linux2 | insmod, go on.... lol. the pause is making me think there is a really good answer |
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| 06:44.23 | YumPoo | I *DARE* anyone here to attempt to remove me from this channel |
| 06:44.41 | YumPoo | in fact I *DOUBLE DARE* anyone to remove me |
| 06:44.59 | YumPoo | don't make me *TRIPLE DARE* anyone |
| 06:45.09 | linux2 | YumPoo, not in the mood |
| 06:45.29 | YumPoo | oh snap.....there you go....I *QUADRUPLE DARE* you to kick my ass |
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| 06:45.38 | YumPoo | anyone? |
| 06:45.45 | YumPoo | please |
| 06:45.51 | linux2 | insmod, whered you go? |
| 06:45.57 | insmod | here |
| 06:46.02 | xk | hmm |
| 06:46.04 | insmod | lag |
| 06:46.16 | linux2 | insmod, o thats sucky |
| 06:46.22 | YumPoo | kick my ass before i start getting really out of hand and saying some stupid shtuff |
| 06:46.23 | liable | go on xk, he asked :) |
| 06:46.34 | YumPoo | please |
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| 06:46.47 | insmod | linux2: did you get the answer |
| 06:46.54 | linux2 | insmod, nope |
| 06:47.00 | linux2 | just go "i figured it out" |
| 06:47.03 | linux2 | got* |
| 06:47.03 | xk | anyone got fan control working on 2.6.15+ kernel? |
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| 06:47.18 | YumPoo | ahh pishhhhh........I will help you lazy mofo's out..... |
| 06:47.19 | xk | I seriously hate shit breaking after kernel upgrade. |
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| 06:47.40 | insmod | linux2: check your /msg window |
| 06:47.50 | stoned | I have finally gotten rid of crapuntu |
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| 06:47.58 | linux2 | insmod, nope, got nothing |
| 06:48.06 | linux2 | got lost in space |
| 06:48.10 | stoned | now i got sid running on my laptop exactly the way i like |
| 06:48.14 | stoned | and its so much more faster |
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| 06:48.28 | superlinux | hi all |
| 06:48.35 | insmod | linux2: lol -- you don't have the nodes |
| 06:48.37 | superlinux | any body available? |
| 06:48.56 | linux2 | insmod, not meaning much to me. lol. nodes? |
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| 06:49.12 | superlinux | I wanna view the zawahiri video on cnn.com but I cant.. |
| 06:49.18 | superlinux | it's complaining |
| 06:49.39 | insmod | linux2: you had to create /dev/files mknode etc -- they are missing |
| 06:49.50 | linux2 | insmod, dammit |
| 06:49.50 | linux2 | lol |
| 06:49.59 | linux2 | insmod, ok give me a sec and i will run that |
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| 06:50.35 | go_socceroos | what's a good mysql gui? |
| 06:50.35 | liable | superlinux: complaining of what? |
| 06:50.57 | linux2 | insmod, so just run makedev |
| 06:51.45 | linux2 | insmod, so what do i have to do at the moment? |
| 06:51.51 | linux2 | how do i got about making the nodes |
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| 06:52.24 | stoned | lately my LAN of two machines has gotten really slow, it runs no faster than 400kb/s |
| 06:52.26 | superlinux | liable, it says that it needs MS media player |
| 06:52.33 | stoned | where should I look to find out what the problem is |
| 06:52.34 | insmod | linux2: man mknode -- it's not that hard |
| 06:52.41 | superlinux | while we linux users don't use it |
| 06:52.49 | superlinux | check for urself |
| 06:53.00 | linux2 | insmod, i don't have that command |
| 06:53.08 | stoned | mknod |
| 06:53.20 | liable | superlinux: ugh, i had a web site do that. and i ws buggered if i could get it to work in the end. :( |
| 06:53.44 | liable | superlinux: whats the link? |
| 06:53.58 | superlinux | open the main page of cnn.com |
| 06:54.00 | linux2 | so mknode 72 ida0 |
| 06:54.01 | linux2 | etc? |
| 06:54.08 | linux2 | mknod* |
| 06:54.13 | superlinux | I wanna watch the zawahiri video |
| 06:54.14 | insmod | linux2: manmakedev |
| 06:54.17 | insmod | linux2: man makedev |
| 06:54.31 | insmod | did you get my /msg |
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| 06:55.01 | linux2 | insmod, no, i didn't |
| 06:55.03 | linux2 | you get mine? |
| 06:55.09 | xk | there we go, finally found why fan control is automatically controlled. |
| 06:55.10 | superlinux | go_socceroos, there is webbased |
| 06:55.16 | linux2 | insmod, try it now |
| 06:55.20 | insmod | do you have a msg window |
| 06:55.23 | sid | superlinux: You have a link? |
| 06:55.28 | insmod | do you have a msg window/tab |
| 06:55.39 | superlinux | sid for? the video? |
| 06:55.49 | karlfr | superlinux, check out VLC |
| 06:55.57 | superlinux | javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2006/06/23/nasr.new.zawahiri.video.affl','2006/06/30'); |
| 06:56.09 | superlinux | LOL! |
| 06:56.23 | superlinux | me thought it's a directlink |
| 06:56.42 | superlinux | it's on the main page of cnn.com |
| 06:56.50 | superlinux | and VLC is installed |
| 06:57.54 | linux2 | insmod, ok i got nothing |
| 06:58.08 | liable | superlinux: hrm, my mplayer plugin works, but its just hopping from one server to the next and not downloading. |
| 06:58.29 | linux2 | you get that? |
| 06:58.34 | linux2 | insmod ^^^^ |
| 06:58.59 | superlinux | ok |
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| 06:59.33 | liable | superlinux: other videos work though |
| 06:59.40 | superlinux | I know |
| 06:59.43 | DimmuR | anyone can tell me where msttcorefonts script is downloading fonts ? |
| 07:00.00 | superlinux | but it seems that MS has paid them! LOL! just kidding |
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| 07:13.56 | liable | !moo |
| 07:13.56 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 07:16.03 | stoned | bud |
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| 07:16.45 | superlinux | !MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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| 07:17.07 | superlinux | why don't dpkg moo? |
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| 07:18.33 | cshaman | hello all. |
| 07:18.34 | cat | hey does etch have backports? |
| 07:18.35 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 07:18.52 | lgd_ | can i do a script bash: |
| 07:18.53 | cshaman | how can i see a list of all the installed packages on my debian box? |
| 07:18.59 | liable | cat: um, seeing as etch is still in development.. no |
| 07:19.01 | lgd_ | $dir_backup="/nome_dir/" |
| 07:19.05 | cshaman | ...in TTY mode. |
| 07:19.08 | lgd_ | tar -jcf backup.tar.bz2 dir_backup |
| 07:19.09 | xk | cshaman: dpkg --list |
| 07:19.13 | cat | liable, how about a backport for kernel? |
| 07:19.16 | cat | *kernels |
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| 07:20.02 | lgd_ | $dir_backup="/nome_dir/" |
| 07:20.03 | lgd_ | tar -jcf backup.tar.bz2 dir_backup |
| 07:20.08 | lgd_ | can i do this script |
| 07:20.10 | lgd_ | ??? |
| 07:20.24 | liable | cat: if you need a sid kernel image, get it from p.d.o and install with dpkg |
| 07:20.32 | cat | p.d.o? |
| 07:20.46 | cat | i just need a good kernel for a toshiba tecra 8200, |
| 07:20.53 | cat | any ideas what kernel should i get |
| 07:20.59 | liable | packages.debian.org |
| 07:21.10 | lgd_ | ok i'm resolv |
| 07:21.11 | lgd_ | sorry+ |
| 07:21.22 | liable | !tell cat about laptop |
| 07:21.32 | cshaman | why is it that when i remove a package and then type dpkg --list, the removed package is still listed but has "rc" next to it? |
| 07:21.48 | cat | hmm |
| 07:21.51 | xk | cshaman: did you remove with apt-get or dpkg? |
| 07:22.06 | cshaman | apt-get |
| 07:22.16 | liable | cshaman: config files remain. |
| 07:22.23 | xk | cshaman: i use dpkg --purge <pkg>... not sure why apt-get doesn't support it. |
| 07:22.26 | cshaman | how can i remove them? |
| 07:22.30 | cshaman | i see. |
| 07:22.40 | liable | what does it matter anyway? |
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| 07:22.48 | xk | why have cruft on the system? ;) |
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| 07:24.11 | cshaman | xk: ditto :) |
| 07:24.22 | sid | gnome-core 2.14.2 just dropped into unstable(it was 2.12.3) |
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| 07:26.42 | streuner | hi xk |
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| 07:27.41 | streuner | xk: what do you think about .au soccer team? |
| 07:28.39 | cshaman | they're pretty good, imo |
| 07:29.02 | brianski | howdy. is there a good wy to tell how many physical cpus a machine has (ie not logical cpus from hyperthreading) ? /proc/cpuinfo doesn't indicate whether the cpus are logical or physical, and dmesg's buffer has scrolled off into oblivion with warnings |
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| 07:29.47 | go_socceroos | xk They will down Italy in the next game |
| 07:30.41 | cahoot | sure |
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| 07:31.53 | xk | streuner: hmmm... hard for me to say... gotta wait for the italy game ;) |
| 07:32.16 | streuner | xk: nobody expect that they will play the next game ;-) |
| 07:33.01 | streuner | s/expect/expected/ |
| 07:33.33 | xk | they just need to stop making mistakes. |
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| 07:33.45 | go_socceroos | and scoring goals |
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| 07:36.35 | psychonate | I'm for Brazil, but right now I think my money is on Germany |
| 07:36.41 | cahoot | brianski: you know dmesg is accessible via /var/log/dmesg? |
| 07:37.31 | brianski | cahoot: i did not, thanks. in BSD-land (where i come from) it's /var/run/dmesg.boot |
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| 07:41.27 | ram_einstein | the default repos don't seeem to have a qemu deb with keqmu support compiled in. Is the only alternative to get the source and compile it by hand? |
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| 07:42.54 | drbean | How do USB devices work on debian? If I just mount it, it will be part of the filesystem? |
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| 07:43.21 | drbean | I wonder what the device name for it is. |
| 07:43.53 | foobared | drbean: you cannot really mount an USB bluetooth dongle :) |
| 07:44.00 | cahoot | drbean: might help if you told what kind of device it is |
| 07:44.06 | go_socceroos | drbean, it is a serial device |
| 07:44.12 | drbean | It's a camera. |
| 07:44.14 | foobared | drbean: usually /dev/sda1 |
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| 07:44.42 | cahoot | drbean: some cameras (but not all) are accessible that way |
| 07:44.48 | drbean | a smart media card. |
| 07:45.17 | cahoot | drbean: check dmesg for info |
| 07:45.51 | foobared | drbean: then modprobe usb-storage [uo]hci sd_mod and dmesg for the name of the device |
| 07:46.02 | ram_einstein | The debian repos don't seeem to have a qemu deb with keqmu support compiled in. Is the only alternative to get the source and compile it by hand? Or is there another repo with kqemu support compiled in? that would be easier |
| 07:46.19 | Gnea | drbean: they become emulated scsi devices |
| 07:46.28 | avenger__ | sup |
| 07:46.44 | cahoot | Gnea: not all (like canon cameras) |
| 07:47.42 | Gnea | cahoot: with cameras, they're usually available through libusb (gphoto2/gtkam) |
| 07:48.02 | cahoot | Gnea: yes but not as /dev/sd* |
| 07:48.08 | Gnea | sure they can |
| 07:48.26 | Gnea | if you have a card reader, you can hook it up and it will read as such |
| 07:48.40 | Gnea | just take the card out of the camera |
| 07:48.42 | cahoot | Gnea: yes but the issue was cameras |
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| 07:48.56 | drbean | dmesg says it is: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage device |
| 07:49.12 | Gnea | drbean: cat /proc/scsi/scsi |
| 07:49.18 | Gnea | drbean: any devices? |
| 07:50.03 | drbean | USB Mass Storage device found at 2 |
| 07:50.04 | foobared | drbean: hm, what is your scsi0 bus? ide-scsi? |
| 07:50.36 | Gnea | drbean: that's it? |
| 07:50.57 | foobared | drbean: modprobe sd_mod |
| 07:51.20 | drbean | Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 |
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| 07:51.34 | Gnea | drbean: what kernel? |
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| 07:52.29 | drbean | modprobe sd_mod returns nothing. |
| 07:52.38 | Gnea | it shouldn't |
| 07:52.48 | Gnea | check dmesg |
| 07:52.52 | icebit | hi all |
| 07:52.52 | drbean | This is sarge, I think it's 2.4 i386 |
| 07:53.01 | foobared | drbean: dmesg | tail |
| 07:53.01 | Gnea | cat /proc/version |
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| 07:53.26 | go_socceroos | dmesg | tail |
| 07:53.33 | drbean | cat /proc/scsi/scsi returns details aboutthe camera. |
| 07:53.39 | go_socceroos | ^^^^ wrong terminal |
| 07:53.47 | drbean | How do I mount it? |
| 07:54.05 | m0dY | any idea how to restore files removed after fsck.ext3 on a mounted file system? |
| 07:54.08 | drbean | Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: C-700UltraZoom Rev: 1.00 |
| 07:54.22 | Gnea | drbean: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 07:54.27 | drbean | Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 |
| 07:54.50 | m0dY | ?! |
| 07:55.15 | Gnea | m0dY: look in lost+found on that filesystem |
| 07:55.23 | Gnea | m0dY: and don't fsck a mounted filesystem ever again. |
| 07:56.18 | m0dY | 40 hours of unsleeping would make more than that |
| 07:56.36 | m0dY | anyway, i killed the fsck process when i found it deleted 7gb of data |
| 07:56.38 | drbean | It looks like then it is on my windows partition. |
| 07:56.51 | Gnea | way to go |
| 07:56.56 | m0dY | i stopped al running i/o's but can i get back those erased files ? |
| 07:57.10 | Gnea | drbean: well you didn't mention that there were other scsi devices attached |
| 07:57.21 | drbean | fdisk -l /dev/sda returns /dev/sda1 * 1 500 63972+ 1 FAT12 |
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| 07:57.46 | foobared | Gnea: but he mentioned it was scsi1 not scsi0 :) |
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| 07:58.00 | Gnea | drbean: sounds right - mkdir /mnt/smartcard && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/smartcard |
| 07:58.54 | drbean | Other scsi devices? There are 2 apparently. |
| 07:59.00 | drbean | usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports |
| 07:59.03 | m0dY | so idea how get those back ? |
| 07:59.23 | Gnea | m0dY: yeah, get some sleep and check lost+found in the morning |
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| 07:59.45 | m0dY | lost+found got nothing.:( |
| 07:59.49 | Gnea | m0dY: they'll be there, but filenames will be changed to inodes. it'll take a *long* time to recover it, if at all. |
| 08:00.10 | Gnea | m0dY: sounds like a, er, fscked system |
| 08:00.15 | m0dY | yes, they maybe would have been there if i'vnt killed the fsck process |
| 08:00.19 | Gnea | hope you've got backups |
| 08:00.57 | m0dY | just moved this box from an old one and this was the only storage |
| 08:00.59 | m0dY | :/ |
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| 08:01.14 | drbean | That did it. Thanks a lot. Got to remember dmesg |
| 08:01.16 | Gnea | m0dY: you could try to unmount it and then try fsck again - it could be bunched up in the journal and you might get lucky. just don't reboot. |
| 08:01.24 | Gnea | drbean: cool |
| 08:02.10 | m0dY | it's the / {root} file system |
| 08:02.32 | Gnea | m0dY: how do you know 7gigs got zapped? |
| 08:02.46 | m0dY | zappe!? |
| 08:02.55 | m0dY | you mean gone? |
| 08:03.08 | Gnea | this is why i never place an entire system on one filesystem |
| 08:03.30 | Gnea | yes, gone. but we don't know that for sure. |
| 08:03.43 | m0dY | i believe it's only the file pointer which is gone |
| 08:03.51 | Gnea | m0dY: do you have a cdrom on the system? |
| 08:04.02 | m0dY | it's a remote server |
| 08:04.12 | Gnea | you are so fired. |
| 08:04.20 | m0dY | fired UP |
| 08:05.05 | Gnea | is this a personal or production server? |
| 08:05.23 | m0dY | guess what :-( |
| 08:05.35 | Gnea | yes, start looking for another job. |
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| 08:05.55 | Usiu | Hi |
| 08:06.01 | m0dY | nice idea |
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| 08:06.16 | Gnea | again, i hope you made backups. |
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| 08:06.28 | Usiu | If I am reporing request for update, and there is a bug for previous version but resolved do I have to add extra info or post new bug report ? |
| 08:06.59 | m0dY | so is there a way to recover the lost ponters ? |
| 08:07.01 | Gnea | Usiu: what package? |
| 08:07.03 | m0dY | *pointers |
| 08:07.20 | Usiu | Gnea, libnotify1 |
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| 08:07.44 | Gnea | m0dY: you'd have to be at the machine, physically, and boot it with a debian cd or knoppix and attempt to fsck it |
| 08:08.11 | Usiu | Gnea, ? |
| 08:08.34 | m0dY | so if i did this, will i be getting the fully list of the lost files? or just scrambled named files |
| 08:08.59 | Thunderguy | This is a serious question, let's say I got 1.8 GB of apt-cache in the usual /var folder and I want to burn the relevent packages to a few cd repositories using apt-move, how would I go about splitting up the 1.8 gig into 3 cd's? |
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| 08:09.14 | Gnea | m0dY: don't know, you'll have to find out. |
| 08:09.29 | m0dY | well, thanks for help :) |
| 08:09.37 | Gnea | good luck :) |
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| 08:09.58 | Eclipser | using -b flag with start-stop-daemon seems to supress all daemon output, is it possible to redirect it somewhere? |
| 08:10.02 | m0dY | hope so |
| 08:10.07 | Gnea | Usiu: sarge? |
| 08:10.10 | Usiu | Gnea, sid |
| 08:12.30 | Gnea | Usiu: i don't see an open bug report for it. |
| 08:12.41 | Gnea | Usiu: are you sure the bug is with that package? |
| 08:13.04 | Usiu | Gnea, I am posting whish report to update it |
| 08:13.32 | Usiu | Gnea, ok sent.. |
| 08:14.20 | Gnea | Usiu: it'll be the first |
| 08:14.55 | Gnea | Usiu: so what's the problem? |
| 08:15.14 | Usiu | Gnea, I am trying to build packge that depends on libnotify 0.4.2 |
| 08:15.58 | Gnea | Usiu: uhm, then why are you filing a bug against a package when the problem is likely on your end? |
| 08:16.24 | Gnea | Usiu: have you consulted with any other DDs about this? |
| 08:16.35 | Usiu | Gnea, I am not DD |
| 08:16.46 | Usiu | Gnea, the problem is that package is old |
| 08:16.58 | Gnea | soooo.... build a new one |
| 08:17.01 | Usiu | Gnea, and new version is available.. |
| 08:17.09 | Usiu | Gnea, I did... but I cant upload it |
| 08:17.27 | Gnea | it should go toward experimental then |
| 08:17.44 | Usiu | Gnea, if You can upload it.. its fine.. |
| 08:18.04 | Usiu | Gnea, I am not DD and I dont have access to ftp servers... |
| 08:20.36 | Gnea | Usiu: have you contacted the maintainer yet? |
| 08:20.51 | Usiu | Gnea, sent email but he didnt replay |
| 08:21.01 | Usiu | Gnea, so I posted a whish report to update the package |
| 08:21.04 | Gnea | Usiu: how long ago? |
| 08:21.14 | Usiu | Gnea, two days ? |
| 08:21.32 | Gnea | Usiu: he may not have time to read it until this weekend |
| 08:22.06 | Usiu | Gnea, and my wish to update wasnt the first... there is one resolved for version 0.3.0 :) |
| 08:22.25 | Usiu | Gnea, ok i have to go (breakfast) see you.. |
| 08:22.56 | Gnea | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=libnotify1&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable |
| 08:23.03 | Gnea | Usiu: uhm, where? |
| 08:23.33 | Usiu | Gnea, reportbug showed one.. |
| 08:23.52 | Gnea | Usiu: what's the bug number? |
| 08:24.07 | Usiu | ok I'll check |
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| 08:24.51 | Usiu | Gnea, Resolved bugs -- Wishlist items (1 bug) |
| 08:24.51 | Usiu | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.11 | Gnea | libnotify? |
| 08:25.13 | Usiu | Gnea, ups |
| 08:25.16 | Gnea | that's not libnotify1 |
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| 08:25.18 | Slartybartfast | is there a simple way to copy a directory **without** it's contents? |
| 08:25.20 | Usiu | Gnea, :P |
| 08:25.25 | Usiu | Gnea, my mistake |
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| 08:25.32 | Gnea | HEH |
| 08:26.00 | Usiu | Gnea, heh |
| 08:26.05 | Usiu | Gnea, no.. its fine.. |
| 08:26.26 | Usiu | Gnea, reportbug libnotify1 Getting status for libnotify1 |
| 08:26.41 | Gnea | ok, i see it for libnotify |
| 08:27.11 | Usiu | Gnea, btw there is not libnotify package.. |
| 08:27.23 | Gnea | heh |
| 08:27.29 | Usiu | Gnea, ok.. I have to go... |
| 08:27.35 | Gnea | ok |
| 08:27.55 | Usiu | Gnea, but I think its fine to post a whish bug when the package is out of dtae |
| 08:28.04 | Gnea | Usiu: agreed |
| 08:28.11 | Usiu | Gnea, ok see you |
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| 08:32.30 | Slartybartfast | nevermind: tar c /home --exclude=/home/* 2> /dev/null | tar x |
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| 08:33.41 | Eclipser | meh meh |
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| 08:35.01 | hobophobe | what does it do if I type word 'word ? |
| 08:35.08 | hobophobe | (it shows >) |
| 08:35.43 | Gnea | hobophobe: it's an unfinished command |
| 08:35.45 | Slartybartfast | hobophobe it is waiting for you to complete the line |
| 08:36.00 | Slartybartfast | (close the quote) |
| 08:36.03 | hobophobe | ah |
| 08:36.06 | hobophobe | neat |
| 08:36.06 | Gnea | `yada` |
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| 08:36.22 | hobophobe | you learn something new every day. |
| 08:36.25 | hobophobe | thanks |
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| 08:40.45 | copane | strange problem. if i don't move the mouse about during boot, it will come up hanged. anyone has this problem before? |
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| 08:41.10 | copane | its a usb mouse 7-button optical mouse. |
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| 08:42.03 | bartlebee | i had a similar problem with a 52 button mouse connected over iscsi, the solution was using a ps2 3 button mouse |
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| 08:42.16 | xk | heh @ number of buttons |
| 08:42.56 | copane | bartlebee, 52-button mouse? |
| 08:43.09 | bartlebee | 7 button mouse? |
| 08:43.32 | bartlebee | I am was only kidding, I have no idea, sorry |
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| 08:43.58 | copane | bartlebee, what was ur system set-up like? version of debian, of kernel,... |
| 08:45.01 | copane | stung by a bartlebee, whatever damned specie of bee it may be. |
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| 08:46.51 | solars | hi, I got a problem when connecting with wpa_supplicant, I keep getting ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETMLME]: Argument list too long, when associating, anyone heard something about this ? |
| 08:46.57 | servus | I've never seen a purple bartlee. I never hope to see one! But if I ever be stinged a purple bartle-bee, I'd rather sting than zing one! |
| 08:47.17 | copane | lol |
| 08:47.23 | Chihork | hahaha |
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| 08:48.23 | copane | no time to fool around. got some serious work to do. bye. |
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| 08:49.52 | Chihork | can anyone speculate as to how every item in my gnome menu (but only within the debian folder) duplicated itself? |
| 08:50.09 | mateuszk | Chihork, duplicated ?! |
| 08:50.15 | Chihork | yeah |
| 08:50.36 | mateuszk | Chihork, its impossible for two excacly the same files to coexist.. |
| 08:50.45 | mateuszk | Chihork, with the same name.. |
| 08:50.47 | mateuszk | Chihork, :P |
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| 08:51.13 | Chihork | haha, well, I wasn't aware that those menu entries were files, so can I be excused? |
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| 08:52.29 | icebit | marculix, mastroquet, |
| 08:52.49 | Chihork | I tell you, every entry is showing up twice, except for 5 of them. |
| 08:52.54 | marculix | icebit? |
| 08:53.14 | icebit | hi all :) |
| 08:53.19 | marculix | hi |
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| 08:55.13 | mastroquet | hi all ;-) |
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| 08:55.41 | Chihork | well, restarting Gnome fixed that little problem. Very strange. |
| 08:56.16 | booger | In cardinfo i can see 3 sockets, one of which has the wireless card i want to use, the other has the onboard wireless... when i do a iwconfig i only see one card which is the onboard? I can't seem to get the second card to appear |
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| 09:07.28 | icebit | who use mozilla plug-in's? |
| 09:08.37 | icebit | I have one question, about x-mplayer-2 mozilla plug-in |
| 09:10.12 | icebit | What useful it is possible to receive from its use? |
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| 09:10.23 | ktwilight | what's the problem? |
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| 09:10.58 | icebit | problem with web camera view in mozilla |
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| 09:13.30 | icebit | ok, who use mozilla for view web-camers? |
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| 09:15.08 | nbt | hi, it's possible to use the service offered by http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/freetrial.html with kPhone ? |
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| 09:26.03 | Etchmen | ok ok hello |
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| 09:26.06 | Etchmen | moin |
| 09:26.42 | nbt | hi, it's possible to use the service offered by http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/freetrial.html with kPhone ? |
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| 09:29.52 | Etchmen | good Q |
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| 09:30.02 | coward | what options do I need to give gcc to get a file I can call dlopen on? |
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| 09:33.53 | five0 | are any of you running windows in qemu? How did you get setup the networking? |
| 09:34.07 | five0 | -get |
| 09:34.08 | foxmjay_ | hi , someone has tried jiaxclient? |
| 09:34.53 | foxmjay_ | it's a java iax library |
| 09:35.06 | foxmjay_ | to make a voip |
| 09:35.11 | liable | five0: theres a article on debian admin site about it. |
| 09:35.28 | five0 | liable: i'm consulting that atm |
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| 09:35.34 | five0 | liable: it's not definitive, though |
| 09:36.23 | liable | five0: i start it with -net tap -net nic |
| 09:36.50 | liable | five0: you need perms to access the tun dev though, so you need to chmod it |
| 09:37.42 | five0 | liable: wehere did you get that info? |
| 09:37.49 | five0 | liable: from a different source? |
| 09:37.56 | liable | five0: i cant remember now, somewhere on google |
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| 09:38.22 | liable | five0: then you need to do the nat thing that the article says |
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| 09:39.03 | five0 | liable: tun0 doesn't exist, and so 'ifconfig tun0...' won't work |
| 09:39.16 | five0 | liable: the kernel module is there and everything |
| 09:39.48 | liable | five0: the -net options bring it up. change the perms on it to users, make sure you are in users group and then try |
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| 09:40.25 | liable | five0: change the group on it to users, and chmod it. |
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| 09:41.49 | liable | actually, just change the group |
| 09:42.23 | five0 | yeah |
| 09:42.33 | five0 | liable: you have a tun0 or tap0 interface/ |
| 09:42.34 | icebit | so, who use xawtv for video capture? |
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| 09:42.52 | [vinyl] | hi there. is there anyone from norway awake in here? |
| 09:43.11 | azeem | [vinyl]: why does the location matter? |
| 09:43.12 | icebit | who user video capture in debian? |
| 09:43.15 | liable | five0: i have the module loaded, but like you, i couldnt ifconfig tun0, once i changed the group of it, and started qemu with those options, it worked |
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| 09:45.19 | [vinyl] | azeem: i have a little problem. my girlfriends parents are in norway for vacation and her father is in hospital with pneumonia. we don't know where exactly they are, but we got their local phone number. now i am looking for someone who can help me get the location from the area code. |
| 09:45.21 | icebit | petrov_, |
| 09:45.41 | [vinyl] | i have been googling all over. so far without success. |
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| 09:45.57 | dob1 | hi |
| 09:45.58 | nbt | hi, it's possible to use the service offered by http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/freetrial.html with kPhone ? |
| 09:46.28 | maxxle | I have problems with my GTK-File-Selector dialog in GTK-Applications. Is there a hack that opens always a Fileselector with an enabled function "Browse for other Folders" |
| 09:46.41 | icebit | how about google? |
| 09:47.53 | five0 | liable: the article: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/40, uses 'host' in place of guest |
| 09:48.03 | five0 | liable: i'm refuse to read it anymore |
| 09:48.10 | five0 | i'll google for another |
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| 09:49.13 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:52.40 | bam_ | if I have a dual boot system already will installing debian over my existing linux system leave grub in place? |
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| 09:52.54 | efaistos | hi |
| 09:53.24 | efaistos | does some pkg exist to put some colours in the boot sequence like in others distributions ? |
| 09:53.35 | liable | bam_: well, it will rewrite the mbr, but yeah |
| 09:54.10 | bam_ | ok cool, then there shouldnt be a problem |
| 09:54.21 | liable | yeah, should be fine |
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| 09:54.23 | bam_ | does debian cone with a default wm? |
| 09:54.42 | bam_ | *come |
| 09:55.11 | liable | no, if you pick desktop during install, you get gnome and kde, otherwise just install base and install whatever you like |
| 09:55.35 | bam_ | cool, I prefer kde |
| 09:56.06 | bam_ | last question whats the latest stable release? |
| 09:56.41 | Maulkin | sarge |
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| 09:56.50 | bam_ | 3.1r2? |
| 09:57.00 | liable | yep |
| 09:57.05 | bam_ | cool thanks |
| 09:57.35 | liable | brb |
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| 10:17.31 | icebit | icebit -> Has left for a dinner |
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| 10:18.49 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 10:18.54 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:18.54 | tarzeau | !seen peterS |
| 10:18.54 | dpkg | peters <~m|ptrS|@adsl-66-138-124-212.dsl.wcfltx.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 19h 31s ago, saying: 'Tyra2: don't know about nessus, but some security scanning software naively assumes that a reported version number implies presence or lack of certain known security holes. since debian patches holes without changing version numbers, this can cause false'. |
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| 10:40.26 | epsilon | .oO (the entire channel for me alone) |
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| 11:01.27 | wam | Hi, I want to share a volume via nfs for a bunch of users on other machines. I want that anyone has rw-access to all files/folders. How can I do this? |
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| 11:07.24 | xk | wam: chmod doesn't ring a bell? |
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| 11:08.00 | epsilon | wam: create a new group for nfs users and set the permissions. then setup nfs-server and add mount on each clients |
| 11:09.20 | wam | epsilon: but new files will have rw-r--r--, won't they? How can I make them group-writable? |
| 11:09.37 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.51 | xk | killown: what's the modes on the .ssh dir? |
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| 11:10.25 | killown | xk user local to root user |
| 11:10.41 | xk | killown: that doesn't answer my question. |
| 11:10.51 | zenit | killown: you are a bit unclear. Is the key used or not? |
| 11:11.05 | killown | yes |
| 11:11.12 | xk | ok... did you create the key without a password? |
| 11:11.36 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.36 | killown | root@127.0.0.1's password: Permission denied, please try again. |
| 11:11.51 | xk | grep Root /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 11:12.11 | killown | ok |
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| 11:16.17 | cahoot | killown: you are sure you want to permit root login? |
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| 11:16.37 | killown | http://pastebin.com/728697 xk |
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| 11:17.42 | xk | hmm... can't seem to connect. |
| 11:17.47 | xk | ahh... probably because i'm using 2.6.17 |
| 11:17.55 | abrotman | xk: pastebin.com is uberslow .. wait a minute or three |
| 11:18.10 | killown | ok |
| 11:18.26 | abrotman | try pastebin.ca |
| 11:18.34 | abrotman | killown: put it at pastebin.ca or |
| 11:18.35 | abrotman | !paste |
| 11:18.35 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 11:19.06 | killown | xk last night I make it ssh without password but today no allow more |
| 11:20.26 | killown | xk http://pastebin.ca/70517 |
| 11:20.36 | abrotman | killown: what did you change last night? |
| 11:21.03 | killown | abrotman I no change nothing |
| 11:21.12 | abrotman | blondie: wussy |
| 11:21.13 | xk | allowusers is the problem |
| 11:21.26 | xk | linux is the _only_ user allowed to log in |
| 11:21.38 | killown | last night I give ssh 127.0.0.1 -l root is it logging without password |
| 11:21.49 | killown | today no make it more |
| 11:21.58 | cahoot | killown: AllowUsers linux - locks out all others |
| 11:22.17 | xk | AllowUsers implies deny for others. |
| 11:22.24 | blondie | killown: don't login as root on ssh |
| 11:22.24 | asg | blondie: check tuxmobile.org |
| 11:22.36 | killown | blondie why? |
| 11:22.39 | cahoot | killown: AllowUsers linux - keep that and let root be |
| 11:22.45 | abrotman | i thought he didn't change anything |
| 11:22.52 | blondie | killown: because it's a security risk |
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| 11:23.05 | blondie | asg: it works... it's just so unbearably slow |
| 11:23.16 | asg | blondie: ;) |
| 11:23.18 | blondie | I think I'll try amd64 instead of i386 |
| 11:23.20 | killown | blondie I go allow connection only localhost |
| 11:23.27 | abrotman | blondie: the gnome-terminal thing still ? |
| 11:23.28 | asg | abrotman: as House says, everybody lies |
| 11:23.38 | blondie | abrotman: not just that :( |
| 11:23.39 | abrotman | asg: we should shoot them |
| 11:23.45 | blondie | about averything I run |
| 11:23.50 | blondie | s/av/ev/ |
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| 11:23.53 | killown | xk, AllowUsers linux |
| 11:23.57 | asg | abrotman: indeed |
| 11:24.00 | blondie | killown: what's the point of ssh to localhost? |
| 11:24.11 | killown | blondie yes |
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| 11:24.23 | asg | blondie: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 11:24.25 | killown | blondie aterm -e ssh 127.0.0.1 -l root |
| 11:24.28 | blondie | killown: that wasn't a yes or no question ;) |
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| 11:24.49 | killown | yes |
| 11:24.51 | ktwilight | you guys must speak broken english with killown...to make him understand |
| 11:25.01 | Gnea | killown: why don't you just setup a secure key? |
| 11:25.01 | blondie | killown: no |
| 11:25.04 | blondie | !confuse killown |
| 11:25.05 | dpkg | No, how is your bacon yesterday, killown? shirts of the democracy of swaziland with extra cheese |
| 11:25.08 | ktwilight | killown, ssh is your pc or server? |
| 11:25.30 | killown | ktwilight, In my pc |
| 11:25.40 | Gnea | my god, you people don't know how to use ssh worth a shit :P |
| 11:25.42 | ktwilight | killown, you connect ssh to your pc? |
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| 11:25.53 | blondie | abrotman: gnome-terminal causes xorg to use 30% cpu, but other stuff just runs really slow without taking up much CPU |
| 11:25.55 | killown | ktwilight yes |
| 11:26.12 | ktwilight | killown, you no need ssh in your pc. :) |
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| 11:26.45 | killown | ktwilight why? |
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| 11:26.55 | ktwilight | because you no need ssh to use your pc. :) |
| 11:27.02 | ktwilight | you can use your pc without ssh. |
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| 11:27.22 | killown | ktwilight you know what I want make? |
| 11:27.31 | killown | afff¬¬ |
| 11:27.39 | ktwilight | what you want to make? ssh server on your pc? |
| 11:27.49 | Gnea | http://geekpit.blogspot.com/2006/04/five-minutes-to-more-secure-ssh.html |
| 11:28.05 | killown | ktwilight, aterm -e ssh 127.0.0.1 -l root |
| 11:28.13 | killown | as user local |
| 11:28.17 | Gnea | you are all fired. |
| 11:28.24 | ktwilight | i don't understand killown now :/ |
| 11:28.26 | ktwilight | ok, am off |
| 11:28.29 | ktwilight | *waves* |
| 11:28.31 | Ronin | Gnea: oh thank goodness i can go home |
| 11:28.42 | blondie | killown: what exactly does that do? |
| 11:28.44 | abrotman | Ronin: why .. the dell will just explode |
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| 11:28.48 | Gnea | Ronin: go collect your pinkslip! ;) |
| 11:28.56 | nbt | how do iread dvd with udf fs ? |
| 11:28.57 | Ronin | abrotman: but as im on vacation i care even less then normally :) |
| 11:29.10 | abrotman | Ronin: you call saturday a vacation ? |
| 11:29.10 | killown | blondie when I open terminal as user local it does autologin root |
| 11:29.11 | asg | abrotman: so, my d600 will explode and the macbook battery will get a gut. |
| 11:29.16 | Gnea | nbt: mount it with udf instead of iso9660 |
| 11:29.22 | abrotman | asg: should have gotten a thinkpad :) |
| 11:29.40 | Ronin | abrotman: naw, i do call 2 weeks vacation though |
| 11:29.44 | abrotman | killown: paste the output of `dpkg -l libc6` somewhere please |
| 11:29.47 | blondie | killown: why don't you use su? |
| 11:29.47 | asg | abrotman: well, Nortel dropped one of our d600s and has agreed to buy us a new one. I'm going to suggest a thinkpad ;) |
| 11:29.50 | abrotman | Ronin: oh yay |
| 11:29.56 | abrotman | asg: do eet! |
| 11:29.59 | nbt | so udf support is built-in ? |
| 11:30.02 | Gnea | Ronin: wouldn't it suck to get fired while on vacation? |
| 11:30.03 | nbt | fine ;) |
| 11:30.19 | Ronin | Gnea: guess that would be a mixed blessing |
| 11:30.25 | Gnea | Ronin: lol |
| 11:30.45 | abrotman | he might not have to return his laptop .. but he'd be stuck with a crap dell laptop |
| 11:30.51 | killown | blondie abrotman can let -me I resolve only |
| 11:30.55 | abrotman | free dell laptop .. good or bad .. YOU decide |
| 11:30.56 | killown | thanks all |
| 11:31.04 | abrotman | killown: paste the output of `dpkg -l libc6` somewhere please |
| 11:31.26 | asg | abrotman: the older CPis were good and didn't explode |
| 11:31.59 | blondie | killown: please speak English |
| 11:32.17 | killown | ENGLISH hahahaha |
| 11:32.27 | Gnea | !english |
| 11:32.28 | dpkg | well, english is a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 11:32.50 | killown | blondie, I spoke |
| 11:32.55 | xk | lol |
| 11:33.08 | killown | satisfied? |
| 11:33.09 | blondie | killown: but not in English... |
| 11:33.19 | abrotman | killown: paste the output of `dpkg -l libc6` somewhere please |
| 11:33.24 | blondie | (the words may have been, but they were not in a sensible order) |
| 11:33.33 | abrotman | killown: what is your native language? |
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| 11:33.45 | killown | abrotman japan |
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| 11:34.04 | Gnea | abrotman: i TOLD you the japanese have the WORST server security on the PLANET!!! |
| 11:34.21 | xk | Gnea: worst? what about south korea? :) |
| 11:34.38 | Gnea | xk: they are in direct competition along with china ;) |
| 11:34.41 | abrotman | Gnea: worse than korea? |
| 11:34.54 | Gnea | abrotman: they're in cahoots |
| 11:34.59 | azeem | what does that have to do with anything? |
| 11:35.04 | Gnea | don't let their governments fool you |
| 11:35.25 | killown | I give up |
| 11:35.29 | Gnea | azeem: tell you haven't been following the conversation... |
| 11:35.34 | Gnea | +me |
| 11:35.48 | azeem | Gnea: why should I? Looks off topic to me |
| 11:36.03 | xk | yeah, it always happens on #debian |
| 11:36.06 | Gnea | azeem: well they're apparantly running debian |
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| 11:36.22 | azeem | all I saw is somebody saying they're from Japan and suddenly people start ranting about asiatic server security |
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| 11:36.34 | abrotman | yeah .. it's the germans that have the really bad security |
| 11:37.20 | heiner_ | ok, so we now have the Germans, Japan, South-Korea. Only the Swiss security seems appropriate (because the American cannot be meant) |
| 11:37.42 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: http://tinyurl.com/ets55 |
| 11:38.21 | Gnea | azeem: instead of setting up secure ssh keys for proper passwordless root accountability, these people told him how to setup his sshd_config to allow root logins with no passwords and no authentication at all. it's only for localhost, but...what were you saying? |
| 11:38.33 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: you too ^^^ |
| 11:38.39 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: are you saying the french are the worst? |
| 11:38.53 | azeem | Gnea: I still don't see how this maps to japanese server security in general |
| 11:38.59 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: microsoft french, apparently |
| 11:39.06 | abrotman | hehe |
| 11:39.07 | azeem | Gnea: unless you're generalizing, of course |
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| 11:39.29 | Gnea | azeem: you don't monitor much network traffic, huh |
| 11:39.39 | liable | hrm, e17 is very nice, except the default fonts |
| 11:39.41 | azeem | Gnea: uhm, I don't care |
| 11:39.47 | azeem | Gnea: it's OFF-TOPIC here, OK? |
| 11:39.59 | azeem | rant about asiatic server security somewhere else |
| 11:40.41 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: and on an unrelated note: dig +short -x $(dig +short www.thepiratebay.org) |
| 11:41.31 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: paulswm pointed it out yesterday |
| 11:41.49 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: ah, apparently we both read bash =) |
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| 11:41.55 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: yes .. you do :) |
| 11:42.16 | blondie | that's nothing to be proud of :( |
| 11:42.37 | SerajewelKS | blondie: shhh, don't tell... |
| 11:42.55 | jetscreamer | i am your father abrotman |
| 11:43.21 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i'm telling my dad! |
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| 11:45.12 | pir | hello ! |
| 11:45.25 | blondie | HI! |
| 11:45.34 | pir | I need help concerning drawing diagrams on debian |
| 11:45.49 | pir | is Dia the best software available? |
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| 11:45.55 | azeem | pir: probably |
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| 11:46.19 | azeem | unless you're an Unix freak and prefer xfig or some random non-interactive stuff |
| 11:46.35 | azeem | maybe inkscape is up to the job these days, dunno |
| 11:46.50 | pir | azeem : I am not really a unix freak |
| 11:47.17 | noshadow | xfig is still one of the best if you are not |
| 11:47.27 | azeem | noshadow: no |
| 11:47.31 | abrotman | pir: what kind of drawings? |
| 11:47.37 | azeem | diagrams |
| 11:47.43 | pir | UML diagrams |
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| 11:47.49 | abrotman | uh .. yeah .. dia |
| 11:48.03 | azeem | there's maybe specialized software for UML diagrams out there |
| 11:48.11 | abrotman | i thought there was something from thekompany .. but it's not free |
| 11:48.58 | pir | for the moment i will nead sequence diagrams but also later class diagrams |
| 11:49.23 | pir | together is quite a good one but is not specificaly for debian |
| 11:49.39 | pir | and i think borland together work with eclipse |
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| 11:50.24 | pir | i'd like a free solution |
| 11:50.41 | pir | i will check what i can do with xfig |
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| 11:51.43 | pir | i am working on a quite big software dev and without a diagram tool it will be hard to handle it |
| 11:51.55 | abrotman | pir: oh .. yeah .. maybe an eclipse plugin of some sort |
| 11:52.33 | pir | and for eclipse i will need to do an make install i gess |
| 11:52.44 | abrotman | !tell pir about install java |
| 11:52.45 | pir | i have seen no debian packages |
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| 11:54.04 | pir | abrotman : i have already installed java |
| 11:54.06 | abrotman | ok |
| 11:54.23 | abrotman | pir: last time i used eclipse on sarge .. yeah .. from tar ball |
| 11:54.36 | azeem | it's in testing/unstable |
| 11:54.55 | abrotman | yes it is! |
| 11:55.09 | abrotman | azeem: did they decide when java is getting yanked from unstable? |
| 11:55.19 | azeem | "they" being? |
| 11:55.31 | abrotman | the DDs :) |
| 11:55.35 | abrotman | ftpmasters? |
| 11:55.52 | azeem | the formers can only decide by holding a vote, and I think people have put that on hold |
| 11:56.00 | azeem | after talking to some SUN engineers |
| 11:56.04 | abrotman | has sun clarified the license? |
| 11:56.11 | azeem | they have clarified the FAQ |
| 11:56.36 | abrotman | but the license still sucks? |
| 11:56.51 | azeem | it was Sun's *wish* to have it in non-free, their developers worked on it |
| 11:57.19 | azeem | unless they pull an SCO in the next few months, there's no worry; and if they do, they'll likely sue Canonical first, where the money is |
| 11:57.41 | azeem | after that, they've hopefully open source'd Java already |
| 11:57.47 | sid | lol |
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| 11:58.07 | abrotman | azeem: hehe |
| 11:58.09 | azeem | "after that" == the next few months |
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| 11:58.43 | abrotman | i'd think if they were going to OSS it .. they'd have made a far less restrictive license |
| 11:59.02 | azeem | they're doing it step-by-step |
| 11:59.31 | sid | They're petrified that lots of people are going to fork the kernel |
| 12:00.00 | abrotman | and not fork java? |
| 12:00.21 | azeem | sure, but the outlook of having three different free java stacks is probably more horrifying by now |
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| 12:00.45 | abrotman | they just realized that kaffe was the Sun killer! |
| 12:00.59 | sid | hehe |
| 12:01.10 | timgoh0 | I can't even get java to work consistantly cross-platform. |
| 12:01.21 | asg | abrotman: they should rename it kawfee |
| 12:01.28 | abrotman | asg: file a bug! |
| 12:01.34 | abrotman | wishlist bug of course |
| 12:01.47 | asg | abrotman: dunno if I'd wish kawfee on anyone |
| 12:01.57 | abrotman | asg: java .. kawfee .. both suck ? :) |
| 12:02.02 | asg | abrotman: well, maybe a few people |
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| 12:03.57 | sid | azeem: Can I pm you? |
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| 12:04.40 | azeem | I'm not up for a long conversation, I'm going to shower now and then head off to watch the soccer world cup |
| 12:04.46 | azeem | but, yeah, if you want |
| 12:04.50 | sid | This is quick |
| 12:05.07 | abrotman | azeem: football? :) |
| 12:05.38 | azeem | I was thinking of all the americans in here, who think you need kevlar armor to play football |
| 12:05.53 | blondie | s/football/rugby/ |
| 12:06.04 | abrotman | azeem: you don't .. the soccer moms think you do :) |
| 12:06.34 | azeem | blondie: rugby is for people without eye-foot coordination |
| 12:06.50 | blondie | rugby seems to be american "football" |
| 12:06.58 | abrotman | so can having your brain jostled at the wrong angle |
| 12:07.04 | infernix | "soccer mom refers broadly to a demographic group of women with school-age children". aha. |
| 12:07.06 | infernix | now i get it. |
| 12:07.06 | abrotman | blondie: not quite .. but closer |
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| 12:07.17 | paulswm | blondie: No, it's quite different although that's where football has its roots |
| 12:07.22 | abrotman | blondie: don't you guys watch the NFL Europe or Arena football ? |
| 12:07.29 | blondie | abrotman: the what? |
| 12:07.35 | timgoh0 | abrotman: Yes, but kevlar causes that certain otherwise harmful jostling to cause slightly more damage, or so I've heard. |
| 12:07.37 | abrotman | blondie: NFL Europe |
| 12:07.43 | blondie | never heard of it |
| 12:07.50 | azeem | abrotman: I used to watch the `World League' live in Frankfurt when the results were usually 10:3 |
| 12:07.58 | abrotman | blondie: http://www.nfleurope.com/ |
| 12:08.00 | azeem | that was in '91 or so |
| 12:08.00 | blondie | I don't watch any |
| 12:08.03 | blondie | +thin |
| 12:08.06 | blondie | +g |
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| 12:08.15 | abrotman | azeem: yeah .. or the World League .. which was horrible |
| 12:08.18 | azeem | there were twice as many spectators for American Football than for the local soccer team |
| 12:08.22 | abrotman | blondie: no world league either ? |
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| 12:08.42 | blondie | abrotman: I certainly wouldn't watch american "football", or any other kind :) |
| 12:08.44 | azeem | they renamed it NFL Europe in the mid-90s |
| 12:08.52 | abrotman | blondie: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/1871/ |
| 12:08.57 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 12:09.09 | abrotman | so they still have the barcelona dragons or whatever? |
| 12:09.54 | abrotman | oh .. no more barcelona team .. seem to mostly be in germany now |
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| 12:12.04 | timgoh0 | You asked for it. :) |
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| 12:12.47 | mc__ | !nvidia-one-liner |
| 12:12.56 | mc__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.16 | abrotman | !tell mc__ about nvidia one-liner |
| 12:13.29 | mc__ | abrotman, thank you ^^ |
| 12:13.44 | abrotman | erm .. dance from |
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| 12:18.57 | xwind_ | can i mount a debian iso, publish it in /var/www and use it as a deb http:/// repository? i tried but it can't find the package list. |
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| 12:21.11 | sid | !tell xwind_ about apt-cdrom |
| 12:21.51 | sid | xwind_: I've never done a non-net install; But iirc; the sources.list line should be deb-cdrom http://localhost/blah/blah |
| 12:22.00 | sid | But I might be wrong on that. |
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| 12:25.24 | xwind_ | interesting, deb-cdrom on http. I'll try that. |
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| 12:26.08 | timgoh0 | Why? |
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| 12:28.22 | sid | o wait, I just realized what you're doine xwind_; heh |
| 12:28.22 | sid | Just do deb-cdrom /var/www/blah/blah |
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| 12:29.02 | xwind_ | sid: will that work even in net-install? |
| 12:29.19 | sid | xwind_: no |
| 12:29.26 | xwind_ | the process asks for 2 things: the ip address of the repository and the directory. |
| 12:29.35 | sid | I'm making it up from what I remember people pasting their sources.list in here; (if I remember correctly) |
| 12:29.43 | xwind_ | i am setting up the cdrom for net install. |
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| 12:29.51 | sid | xwind_: I've never done what you're trying. |
| 12:30.04 | sid | That isn't a net install |
| 12:30.25 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Yes, if you're using the net install cdrom, it should ask you for the repos url. |
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| 12:30.34 | timgoh0 | And later, base-install will ask you again for that information. |
| 12:31.02 | plasmoduck | I need to configure webin to let me access it from any ip, where do I do that? |
| 12:31.15 | xwind_ | yes. and that is my problem. the 10 computers that i will be setting up is in a seminary where there is no internet access. |
| 12:31.52 | timgoh0 | plasmoduck: /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf. |
| 12:32.34 | timgoh0 | See the allow= line. |
| 12:32.36 | sid | !tell plasmoduck about webmin |
| 12:33.04 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 12:33.15 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 12:33.39 | timgoh0 | xwind_: If the packages you want are in ONE cd, you could just set up a web server, and point it to the root of the cd, and use that as a http repos. |
| 12:33.42 | killown | abrotman, I solved my problem with sudo aterm |
| 12:34.00 | xwind_ | that's exactly what i did. |
| 12:34.02 | timgoh0 | If it's on multiple cds, you will have to generate the Packages file. |
| 12:34.02 | liran_ | translations on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang are for the wiki website or for the actual ubuntu distribution? |
| 12:34.23 | timgoh0 | xwind_: And what happens? |
| 12:34.40 | sid | !tell liran_ about ubuntu |
| 12:35.08 | liran_ | my bad, wrong window channel :) |
| 12:35.14 | xwind_ | it appears that i need to do a bit more. The workstation complains that the packages can't be found. |
| 12:35.39 | timgoh0 | xwind_: You have to generate the Packages.gz file then. |
| 12:35.53 | xwind_ | yes and i don't know how. |
| 12:36.10 | timgoh0 | xwind_: apt-ftparchive might be helpful. |
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| 12:36.30 | timgoh0 | Move the pools together, and use it to generate the Packages file. |
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| 12:36.47 | abrotman | killown: what are you doing? |
| 12:36.53 | mjair | very newbie question. Can anyone tell me what I need installed so I can build applications from source? So far I installed gcc. But i'm really not sure what else I need |
| 12:36.57 | abrotman | killown: are you logging into X as root? |
| 12:37.10 | xwind_ | all the packages that i need are in only 1 cd. |
| 12:37.11 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Or apt-move, if you want to fiddle with that. |
| 12:37.12 | noshadow | for a normal netinstall the first CD should be enough |
| 12:37.21 | killown | abrotman nope I am logging as local user |
| 12:37.35 | abrotman | killown: and what are you trying to do? |
| 12:37.39 | xwind_ | i've tried apt-move but it deals only with /var/apt/archives. |
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| 12:38.01 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Wait, when does it fail? d-i dies, or the base-install dies? |
| 12:38.14 | killown | abrotman, I use rox-desktop then when I execute icon it open one terminal aterm is it autologin root |
| 12:38.36 | xwind_ | am doing it again right now. pls wait ... |
| 12:38.38 | timgoh0 | And are you using netinstall or businesscard? |
| 12:39.01 | xwind_ | failue in "downloading release file." |
| 12:39.21 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Ah, you're using businesscard. |
| 12:39.26 | abrotman | killown: eh .. that's dumb |
| 12:39.32 | noshadow | xwind_: what URL are you giving? |
| 12:39.47 | xwind_ | my server's ip: 172.29.2.1 |
| 12:39.56 | xwind_ | it's a local ip |
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| 12:40.16 | noshadow | does it want an IP or an URL? |
| 12:40.19 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Yes, and does the url you're giving it actually exist? |
| 12:40.38 | timgoh0 | xwind_: Businesscard, yes? |
| 12:40.43 | xwind_ | yes i can browse and see the contents. |
| 12:40.56 | xwind_ | sorry about this. am using xubuntu. |
| 12:41.04 | timgoh0 | Uh oh. |
| 12:41.06 | timgoh0 | This might hurt. |
| 12:41.08 | xwind_ | :) |
| 12:41.40 | xwind_ | i only used xubuntu because it as debian. :) |
| 12:41.45 | xwind_ | it is |
| 12:41.58 | timgoh0 | xwind_: That argument has been heard a thousand times. |
| 12:41.58 | zinx | it... is not. |
| 12:42.00 | Ronin | xwind_: ahh but its not debian,thats the catch |
| 12:42.07 | zinx | it's xubuntu |
| 12:42.14 | xwind_ | ummmm ... |
| 12:42.20 | Ronin | !based on |
| 12:42.24 | xwind_ | i didn't realize that. |
| 12:42.30 | zinx | and #ubuntu can provide support for it |
| 12:42.35 | Ronin | based on doesnt mean it is |
| 12:42.38 | xwind_ | i am a debian user for quite a while. |
| 12:42.48 | xwind_ | all my servers are debian. |
| 12:43.01 | xwind_ | except for this installation at the seminary. |
| 12:43.15 | zinx | we can help with debian systems.. but ubuntu has a number of differences, which while not neccesarily bad, do mean that we don't know how to help you with it. |
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| 12:43.43 | xwind_ | #ubuntu |
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| 12:44.12 | xwind_ | ok. i understand. will just have to wade through this, |
| 12:44.32 | Ronin | xwind_: ask in the channel for your distro #xubuntu for example |
| 12:44.47 | xwind_ | ok. |
| 12:44.56 | xwind_ | will not ask anymore. |
| 12:45.03 | xwind_ | :) thanks anyway. |
| 12:47.18 | sid | I don't understand why xubuntu and edubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu exist; why not just have one; and when you install you can pick from a menu |
| 12:47.35 | sid | You can install all/any software from any one of those distributions that is in any other distribution(of ubuntu) |
| 12:47.49 | mateuszk | sid, I agree :) |
| 12:48.08 | kyon | sid: politics maybe? |
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| 12:48.18 | mateuszk | sid, lets make mateszubuntu :P |
| 12:48.19 | timgoh0 | sid: Can you hand those cds you propose out to your relatives and have them install a working system? |
| 12:48.26 | timgoh0 | Without an internet connection. |
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| 12:48.51 | sid | timgoh0: yes(with a dvd) |
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| 12:49.06 | timgoh0 | sid: You assume I hand out DVDs. :) |
| 12:49.33 | sid | timgoh0: Just have a menu, and they pick "Education"; "Xfce4", "KDE4", "Gnome2" |
| 12:49.35 | timgoh0 | And the target has a DVD reader. |
| 12:50.02 | sid | I guess it makes more sense when you put it that way. |
| 12:50.07 | timgoh0 | sid: "What's xfce? These choices confuse and enrage me!" |
| 12:50.07 | mateuszk | timgoh0, it was a time when there was a iso images for CD (8 images) for debian.. |
| 12:50.16 | timgoh0 | mateuszk: I have them. :) |
| 12:50.23 | mateuszk | timgoh0, so do I |
| 12:50.30 | timgoh0 | And I did a repos from them out of desperation. |
| 12:50.40 | timgoh0 | Fscking unreliable remote internet connections. |
| 12:51.04 | mateuszk | timgoh0, but I started using netinst and that way I have fresh software... |
| 12:51.19 | mateuszk | timgoh0, I am not even sure if they still provide iso for CD-s |
| 12:51.31 | timgoh0 | mateuszk: Jigdo seems to still allow you to fetch them. |
| 12:51.35 | mateuszk | timgoh0, nowadays every device has DVD |
| 12:51.35 | timgoh0 | And build them yourself. |
| 12:52.07 | timgoh0 | mateuszk: You assume. My lab has 75% of the machines without optical drives. |
| 12:52.15 | timgoh0 | s/without/without working/ |
| 12:52.23 | timgoh0 | And the rest are CDROMs. |
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| 12:54.02 | mateuszk | timgoh0, bring Your labtop and make mirror :P |
| 12:54.10 | timgoh0 | mateuszk: Too late. :) |
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| 12:57.50 | blondie | fgs |
| 12:58.24 | blondie | how do you get "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to update xorg.conf when (it thinks) it's been customized? |
| 12:58.51 | IndoScythian | its Desktop enviroment just like other choices |
| 12:58.54 | blondie | (also, it could check first before wasting time asking questions it's not going to save) |
| 12:59.04 | sid | !tell blondie about xmd5sum |
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| 12:59.25 | sid | !tell blondie about bts |
| 12:59.31 | sid | !tell blondie about reportbug |
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| 12:59.51 | coywolf | how to check debian package integrity |
| 13:00.05 | sid | coywolf: It does it automatically. |
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| 13:00.12 | blondie | thanks |
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| 13:00.21 | coywolf | sid, i mean for an installed package |
| 13:00.54 | coywolf | sid, after a crash, X doesn't work well, i suspect the fglrx package |
| 13:01.11 | sid | !tell coywolf about drxx |
| 13:01.33 | sid | coywolf: Chose the "ati" driver; instead of fglrx when you are asked what driver; choose the default for everything else; |
| 13:01.46 | coywolf | sid, after a crash, i guess some files missing or corrupted |
| 13:01.57 | sid | coywolf: unlikely |
| 13:02.00 | liable | blondie: there seems to be a bug, if you have problems, just move xorg.conf elswhere and drxx again |
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| 13:02.45 | blondie | liable: ok, md5ing as sid suggested didn't work |
| 13:02.51 | sid | coywolf: You probably didn't setup your X configuration properly, or you didn't setup your proprietary kernel module properly. |
| 13:03.14 | blondie | (obviously I changed for the xorg.conf instead of XFree86) |
| 13:04.04 | blondie | liable: even if I do that, it complains that the file has been customised! |
| 13:04.23 | liable | blondie: if the file isnt there? |
| 13:04.25 | blondie | yes |
| 13:04.32 | abrotman | duh |
| 13:04.32 | sid | blondie: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum |
| 13:04.35 | sid | blondie: You did that? |
| 13:04.37 | abrotman | xorg odesn't use md5sum |
| 13:04.40 | blondie | sid: yes |
| 13:04.48 | blondie | it didn't help |
| 13:04.54 | abrotman | mr. stone got rid of that a while ago |
| 13:05.00 | blondie | xorg.conf had never been customised to begin with anyway |
| 13:05.03 | sid | blondie: What are permissions on /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 13:05.21 | blondie | they're what they should be |
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| 13:05.30 | blondie | rw-r--r-- owned by root |
| 13:05.44 | sid | abrotman: But you can't install xorg without having /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum; the file must exist for some reason. |
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| 13:06.11 | sid | blondie: Just do # mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; |
| 13:06.26 | blondie | sid: like I said, that doesn't help. |
| 13:06.35 | blondie | even with no file it complains |
| 13:06.49 | liable | blondie: someone was talking about this the other day. purge xserver and re-install |
| 13:06.57 | blondie | grrrrr |
| 13:07.07 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362078 |
| 13:07.08 | liable | yeah, its a bit silly.. |
| 13:07.33 | Eclipser | how do I disable tapclicking on my touchpad? :) |
| 13:07.42 | abrotman | rip the damn thing out of your laptop |
| 13:08.01 | Eclipser | ... |
| 13:08.06 | sid | hehe |
| 13:08.07 | Eclipser | I don't want to remove teh whole touchpad :< |
| 13:08.15 | abrotman | sorry .. i'm biased against touchpads :) |
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| 13:08.27 | Eclipser | just that I hate it when it acts as if it clicks when I accidently double tap on it |
| 13:08.27 | blondie | touchpads are better than (computer) nipples |
| 13:08.31 | sid | !tell Eclipser about touchpads |
| 13:08.48 | sid | !tell Eclipser about touchpad |
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| 13:09.34 | Eclipser | aha, seems like my proto is set to ExplorePS/2 or something |
| 13:09.54 | Eclipser | I wonder if the tapping won't work with imps/2 |
| 13:10.06 | orgw | hey, let's say i want to get the package name "xchat", how do i get the source instead of pre-compiled one (which is .deb file) ? |
| 13:10.06 | sid | no idea |
| 13:10.12 | Eclipser | just need to try :> |
| 13:10.16 | blondie | what's the command to edit things in /etc/alternatives ? |
| 13:10.24 | Eclipser | update-alternatives |
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| 13:10.28 | orgw | anyone? |
| 13:10.46 | abrotman | !tell orgw about source |
| 13:10.50 | sid | orgw: apt-get build-dep xchat; apt-get source xchat; |
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| 13:11.04 | orgw | sid: but i want to compile it own my own though |
| 13:11.10 | abrotman | orgw: see what dpkg told you |
| 13:11.11 | orgw | like im just gettin the source |
| 13:11.15 | dvs | orgw: that's what it's doing |
| 13:11.26 | sid | orgw: yes; that's what the commands I gave you will allow you to do. |
| 13:11.26 | dvs | orgw: getting the dependencies and the source |
| 13:11.36 | deepspace | Can someone tell me what to remove to get xorg to stop loading xfce? There's no .xinitrc in my home directory and I cannot figure out what is running it (I use the startx command) |
| 13:11.40 | sid | orgw: see man apt-get |
| 13:11.46 | blondie | argh bloody firefox |
| 13:11.47 | orgw | i see |
| 13:11.52 | abrotman | deepspace: check the alternatives system |
| 13:11.57 | sid | deepspace: apt-get remove --purge xfce4? |
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| 13:12.39 | deepspace | sid: That doesn't do it...unfortunately. |
| 13:12.39 | sid | deepspace: Are you using a desktop manager; like xdm/gdm/kdm? |
| 13:12.40 | deepspace | No. |
| 13:12.40 | deepspace | Just running startx |
| 13:12.41 | Eclipser | he just said startx |
| 13:12.53 | Eclipser | again I switched window focus in the middle of a sentence because of this damn tap clicking |
| 13:12.57 | abrotman | deepspace: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
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| 13:13.13 | deepspace | Thanks abrotman - wasn't sure what you meant initially - having a look. |
| 13:13.20 | abrotman | !alternatives |
| 13:13.20 | dpkg | it has been said that alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. |
| 13:13.29 | sid | deepspace: apt-get remove --purge xfce4-mcs-manager xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-panel xfce4-session xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfwm4 xfwm4-themes libxfce4mcs-client3 libxfce4mcs-manager3 libxfce4util2 libxfcegui4-4 xfce4 xfce4-icon-theme |
| 13:13.34 | cds | I'm trying to compile something that needs glib version >= 2.8.2 - anyone know where that is in apt? |
| 13:13.38 | orgw | sid: when i do that command, where does the source go, i mean the files you've just downloaded? |
| 13:13.45 | abrotman | /usr/src/ |
| 13:13.47 | abrotman | or . |
| 13:13.48 | orgw | i see |
| 13:14.01 | sid | orgw: In your current directory |
| 13:14.05 | abrotman | deepspace: any help ? |
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| 13:14.45 | deepspace | abrotman - I havent finished reading yet but Im guessing that when I run startx, Im actually running the xfce start script. |
| 13:14.46 | uberspaced | what's thedeal with all of the binary ISOs here: |
| 13:14.50 | uberspaced | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 13:14.54 | sid | !tell uberspaced about d-i |
| 13:15.02 | deepspace | According to this... |
| 13:15.03 | sid | uberspaced: Do a net install; it's what most of us in here do. |
| 13:15.04 | abrotman | deepspace: no .. what's the output of ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager? |
| 13:15.06 | noahslater | I can't get my .xsession script to work - does anyone have any debian hints? |
| 13:15.15 | abrotman | !.xsession |
| 13:15.16 | dpkg | .xsession is probably : see the "xsession" entry, and/or startx(1) |
| 13:15.20 | zamaliphe | do i need the mysql surce code to compill the php |
| 13:15.22 | abrotman | !tell noahslater about xsession |
| 13:15.23 | roxy_ | I want to share my music with other user of my desktop, what would be the most logical place for the music: /var/music /var/lib/music ... ? |
| 13:15.24 | sid | !tell noahslater about ask |
| 13:15.31 | uberspaced | sid, well, may be in a situation where I cant do a net install on all of the comps I want to get debian on |
| 13:15.44 | sid | noahslater: What are you trying to do? what version of debian? gdm kdm? |
| 13:15.57 | noahslater | gdm, debian unstable |
| 13:16.12 | noahslater | I am trying to have an start up script of any nature called when I log in. |
| 13:16.18 | noahslater | I am using Ion3 as my WM. |
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| 13:16.41 | deepspace | abrotman, pointing to xfwm4 |
| 13:17.11 | deepspace | I guess that just has to be changed to whatever I'm going to use next... |
| 13:17.19 | deepspace | For some reason I've never been in here or read about this.. |
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| 13:17.28 | deepspace | (alternatives) - guess I just never ran into it yet |
| 13:17.35 | noahslater | I have tried .Xsession, .xsession, .profile, .xprofile, .xinitrc - non of them work. |
| 13:20.27 | roxy_ | noahslater: what about using .bash_profile |
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| 13:20.49 | noahslater | I would rather not - this is specificaly for X sessions. |
| 13:21.00 | deepspace | That is cool. That is genuinely cool, running through all of these...good way of dealing with all of these alternatives |
| 13:21.07 | deepspace | well, fixed. |
| 13:21.09 | deepspace | thanks abrotman |
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| 13:21.12 | dob1 | hi |
| 13:21.16 | deepspace | and everyone else who threw out suggestions |
| 13:21.54 | dob1 | i want to export a directory via nfs, the problem is the uid,gid, when i export it, it gets the original uid/gid an i can't write on it with a normal user, how can i resolve this? |
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| 13:22.43 | sid | !tell dob1 about nfs |
| 13:22.47 | noshadow | dob1: there is some uid mapping, but I heared of noone who got it working for non-trivital examples. Best change the uid/guids so that they match |
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| 13:23.19 | dob1 | noshadow: if i read right, the mapping parameters are for root access |
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| 13:23.34 | noahslater | How are you guys specifying Xsession type scripts? |
| 13:23.52 | dob1 | sid: i just read it |
| 13:23.54 | noshadow | dob1: that is the old case and where it is working. it has some arbitrary mapping, too. But as I said I never heared someone getting it working |
| 13:24.02 | noshadow | noahslater: .xsession |
| 13:24.04 | five0 | for those of you using qemu, how did you get samba working on debian? |
| 13:24.17 | noahslater | noshadow, gdm? gnome? |
| 13:24.23 | roxy_ | can you paste your .xinitrc |
| 13:24.30 | dob1 | noshadow: so another way is to use samba? |
| 13:24.33 | noshadow | noahslater: xdm |
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| 13:28.03 | cds | Setting up libglib2.0-0 (2.10.3-1) ... |
| 13:28.06 | cds | Doesn't that mean I have GLIB - version >= 2.8.2 ? |
| 13:28.12 | eastwood | mirrors down? |
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| 13:29.27 | sid | eastwood: What do you mean? |
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| 13:29.51 | zamaliphe | how to install zlib |
| 13:30.02 | eastwood | well update was taking too long |
| 13:30.17 | eastwood | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org |
| 13:30.18 | zamaliphe | i have fund only libzlib-ruby |
| 13:30.40 | sid | zamaliphe: What are you trying to do? compile something from source? |
| 13:30.51 | sid | eastwood: well don't try the main mirror, try something closer to you. |
| 13:30.51 | sid | !tell eastwood about netselect |
| 13:31.04 | zamaliphe | sid: compill and install apache and php |
| 13:31.10 | eastwood | zamaliphe, apt-get install zlibc |
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| 13:31.40 | noahslater | If I run /etc/gdm/Xsession default from the command line it calls my .Xsession script - but this is not done for my by GDM - any idea? |
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| 13:32.00 | sid | zamaliphe: apt-get install zlib1g-dev |
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| 13:32.10 | sid | zamaliphe: If you are compiling something you need -dev packages. |
| 13:32.16 | noshadow | noahslater: no idea. I gave up tyring to understand gdm a long time ago... |
| 13:32.19 | sid | zamaliphe: So apt-cache search whatyouneedhere|grep -- -dev |
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| 13:32.47 | zamaliphe | sid: thanks |
| 13:33.21 | sid | zamaliphe: Since you're compiling apache;(this is already in debian) |
| 13:33.30 | sid | zamaliphe: You can just do; apt-get build-dep apache2 |
| 13:33.40 | sid | zamaliphe: And this will file all dependencies necessary to compile apache2 |
| 13:33.48 | xwind_ | i have been pondering on why i opted to use xubuntu for this latest install to a client. In the past i am always using debian install |
| 13:34.06 | dvs | xwind_: temporary insanity? |
| 13:34.07 | sid | !tell xwind_ about xubuntu |
| 13:34.14 | xwind_ | cud be. |
| 13:34.19 | sid | !ubuntu |
| 13:34.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 13:34.38 | xwind_ | but at least 99% of my clients' servers are still in debian. |
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| 13:35.11 | andyetitmoves | hi! udev creates symlinks by-uuid etc to each partition when a removal device is inserted. however, these symlinks seem to get removed before removal scripts run. is there any way in which I can defer removal of the symlinks till all scripts run during removal are finished? |
| 13:35.15 | xwind_ | i will not be asking anymore support here on ubuntu. promise. |
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| 13:35.27 | sid | I wouldn't use Ubuntu as a server; I don't want my root password in a plain text file and system readable; |
| 13:35.50 | sid | And what's with their names; "Breezy Badger"; that sounds like a douche kit brand name sold at a woman's store |
| 13:36.09 | xwind_ | ah! must be the LTSP thingy. |
| 13:36.25 | xwind_ | do we have LTSP in debian? |
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| 13:36.44 | sid | andyetitmoves: I have no idea the answer to your question. But I can have dpkg give you some udev information. |
| 13:36.46 | sid | !tell andyetitmoves about udev |
| 13:36.55 | sid | andyetitmoves: I would imagine that FAQ from kernel.org is useful. |
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| 13:37.29 | andyetitmoves | thanks sid... |
| 13:37.32 | sid | !tell xwind_ about apt-cache |
| 13:37.54 | sid | xwind_: apt-cache search ltsp; shows several results that you probably want; |
| 13:38.28 | xwind_ | is sid human. he doesn't sound like one. |
| 13:38.34 | xwind_ | he/she is superhuman. |
| 13:38.37 | xwind_ | :) |
| 13:38.38 | sid | andyetitmoves: For a better answer; you can try irc.oftc.net #debian-devel (they are talking about udev currently) |
| 13:38.53 | andyetitmoves | I wud do that! thanks |
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| 13:43.04 | eastwood | sid |
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| 13:43.17 | eastwood | The fastest server seems to be: |
| 13:43.17 | eastwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.18 | eastwood | Writing sources.list. |
| 13:43.30 | eastwood | sources-list remained intact... |
| 13:43.38 | Akbar | hmmm my network:/// in gnome 2.14/etch doesn't list my lan machines.. anyone? |
| 13:43.53 | eastwood | am i suposed to update it manually? |
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| 13:44.13 | sid | eastwood: no, as it said it just wrote your souces.list; eastwood just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; |
| 13:44.23 | sid | !tell Akbar about #gnome |
| 13:44.36 | Akbar | :D |
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| 13:45.11 | eastwood | but netselect didnt change anything in my old sources.... |
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| 13:45.22 | eastwood | so i believe i gotta change it by hand no? |
| 13:45.28 | sid | eastwood: cat /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't show any changes? |
| 13:45.29 | Amarande | Debian CD-ROM boots. |
| 13:45.33 | Amarande | Debian installs without errors. |
| 13:45.36 | sid | eastwood: I guess then. |
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| 13:45.49 | Amarande | When attempting to reboot Debian system into hard drive, all I get is DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER |
| 13:46.00 | Amarande | PEBKAC or serious hardware problem? |
| 13:46.12 | sid | Amarande: mild hardware problem |
| 13:46.14 | asg | Amarande: or the grub installation didn't complete correctly |
| 13:46.20 | Amarande | hmm |
| 13:46.25 | xwind_ | am re-thinking my strategy on this seminary install. what they really need is a lightweight desktop, abiword, gnumeric, samba, cupsys, and thinclient for some old computers. What advice can u give in terms of the iso or distribution to get. sarge? sid? |
| 13:46.25 | Amarande | how do you tell if grub is installed correctly? |
| 13:46.27 | noshadow | Amarande: check if your bios is setup to boot from disk |
| 13:46.30 | sid | Amarande: Is this older hardware? |
| 13:46.36 | Amarande | sid: fairly oldish. 2002 or so. |
| 13:46.42 | eastwood | sid, nop, i believe that's because because i have some additional mirrors |
| 13:46.42 | Amarande | The hard drive is brand new, though. |
| 13:46.44 | sid | That's very new. |
| 13:47.07 | Amarande | sid: what kind of hardware problem would prevent it from booting but allow the install to work fine? |
| 13:47.15 | sid | eastwood: What location are you at; and what version of debian? |
| 13:47.23 | Amarande | Or is there a possibility that a standard BIOS can be incompatible with GRUB? |
| 13:47.39 | Amarande | Is it because I tried sarge, do I maybe need etch? |
| 13:47.44 | Ironhand | Amarande: Debian installed on one HD, and the BIOS trying to boot the other? |
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| 13:47.50 | sid | Amarande: I've had problems where the bios didn't like the partition size so it wouldn't boot off the hdd; but it would off the cdrom |
| 13:47.55 | Amarande | Ironhand, there's only one HD and one CD-ROM in the system :) |
| 13:47.57 | asg | Amarande: /msg dpkg grub (read the lj article mentioned) |
| 13:48.00 | Ironhand | hi btw ;-) |
| 13:48.05 | Amarande | hiya :) |
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| 13:48.14 | eastwood | sid, portugal, etch |
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| 13:48.17 | Amarande | I'm tempted to try FreeBSD and see if I get bugs there too |
| 13:48.59 | eastwood | anyways... http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates |
| 13:49.05 | eastwood | keeps the same right? |
| 13:49.17 | sid | yea, there is only one domain I know of for security updates |
| 13:49.27 | sid | And that's an american mirror so it will probably be slow for you eastwood |
| 13:49.34 | Amarande | Also, how would one go about fixing a buggy GRUB setup without having to go reinstall the whole system again? |
| 13:49.47 | Amarande | (remembering that, well, it won't boot.) |
| 13:49.49 | sid | But security updates/patches are typically small. The main repository line should be a portugal mirror. |
| 13:49.49 | zamaliphe | sid: Package zlib1-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 13:49.54 | Ironhand | Amarande: if you do 'dd if=[your boot device] count=1 | strings', does it show the string "GRUB" in there? |
| 13:49.56 | noshadow | Amarande: boot by cdrom, chroot into the installed system, work from there |
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| 13:50.12 | eastwood | 800 kbytes/s not bad |
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| 13:50.22 | sage_ | hi |
| 13:50.23 | sid | eastwood: You can also try; apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy -a South-America -d testing |
| 13:50.27 | sid | !greet sage_ |
| 13:50.28 | dpkg | Hello, sage_ |
| 13:50.32 | sage_ | i want to upgrade to gnome 2.14 |
| 13:50.36 | sage_ | how i do ? |
| 13:50.39 | sid | !tell sage_ about ask |
| 13:50.41 | sage_ | hello dpkg |
| 13:50.42 | sid | !tell sage_ about backports |
| 13:50.53 | sid | sage_: You didn't tell us what version of debian you're using. |
| 13:51.07 | sage_ | sarge version |
| 13:51.09 | Ironhand | can anyone tell me what it means when host(1) returns without any output and an exit status of 0, for a particular lookup? |
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| 13:51.23 | Amarande | I'd better bring the Knoppix disc with me. |
| 13:51.42 | sage_ | sid excuse me for my english |
| 13:51.43 | sid | zamaliphe: dpkg -al|grep -v ^ii; put this on a paste site. |
| 13:51.48 | sid | !paste |
| 13:51.49 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 13:52.03 | xwind_ | Amarande: i have been into ur situation. puppylinux can help. |
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| 13:52.07 | sid | sage_: Your english is fine. |
| 13:52.19 | sage_ | sid thanks |
| 13:52.21 | sid | sage_: Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr (irc.debian.org). |
| 13:52.30 | eastwood | huh? |
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| 13:53.14 | eastwood | sid, just tested, if you don't have sources.list it will write a new one |
| 13:53.16 | sid | sage_: Look at what dpkg told you, and use backports. |
| 13:53.24 | cds | I'm after this package: http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libglib2.0-0 |
| 13:53.28 | cds | It's not in apt. |
| 13:53.30 | cds | Help? |
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| 13:53.46 | sage_ | sid i just see now, thanks, i go to see |
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| 13:54.16 | sid | eastwood: apt-spy is similar to netselect; It can specify by region though. |
| 13:54.40 | sid | cds: Put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on a paste site. |
| 13:54.41 | eastwood | cds, that might be a virtual package |
| 13:54.42 | sid | !tell cds about paste |
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| 13:55.12 | cds | I know how to past :) |
| 13:55.23 | sage_ | what's the different of debian and ubuntu ? |
| 13:55.29 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AFqV3d82.html |
| 13:55.39 | xwind_ | hello pumpkin0. |
| 13:55.57 | cahoot | cds: checked why here? http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libglib2.0-0 |
| 13:56.08 | asg | sage_: ubuntu is a snapshot of debian unstable at some past time that is patched and massaged and totally unsupported by #debian |
| 13:56.16 | xwind_ | ubuntu is not debian. i just learned that with an exclamation pt today. |
| 13:56.33 | cds | cahoot: Hm, I don't understand that. |
| 13:56.36 | cds | cahoot: I'm new to apt. |
| 13:56.42 | sid | cds: apt-get install libglib2.0-0; if it doesn't work your mirror might be incomplete. Try adding another mirror. |
| 13:56.49 | sage_ | xwind ok thanks |
| 13:56.57 | sid | cds: What are you trying to do? What is your goal here? |
| 13:57.06 | cds | sid: Ah, thanks. |
| 13:57.15 | cds | sid: Trying to install gimp devel. |
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| 13:57.43 | sid | cds: You want gimp development packages? Or you want the latest gimp cvs/development snapshot? |
| 13:58.07 | cds | sid: Not the latest snapshot, the latest development release. |
| 13:58.22 | sid | cds: What version of debian? |
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| 13:58.37 | cds | I isntalled stable, but I'm using the testing sources. |
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| 13:59.11 | coywolf | how to check debian package integrity |
| 13:59.12 | sid | cds: So you're going to compile gimp right? |
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| 13:59.19 | coywolf | sid, after a crash, X doesn't work well, i suspect the fglrx package |
| 13:59.29 | cds | sid: Yep. |
| 13:59.41 | sid | !tell coywolf about drxx |
| 13:59.50 | sid | coywolf: When you are asked what driver; chose "vesa" |
| 13:59.52 | Amarande | Yes, the string GRUB appears in the strings. |
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| 14:00.18 | Amarande | I didn't expect any less, the hard drive should definitely be okay or newegg's in trouble :) |
| 14:00.36 | sid | cds: apt-get install bzip2 build-essential; apt-get build-dep gimp; wget ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.3/gimp-2.3.9.tar.bz2; tar xvjf gimp-2.3.9.tar.bz2; cd gimp-2.3.9; ./configure; make; make install; |
| 14:00.44 | Amarande | Also, would GRUB having problems finding its configuration give that "DISK BOOT FAILURE" message? |
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| 14:00.52 | zamaliphe | sid: what you mean |
| 14:01.05 | cds | sid: Heh, I'll try that :) |
| 14:01.10 | sid | coywolf: Use defaults for all questions except when you're asked what driver; when it asks you what driver specify "vesa" and NOT "fglrx" |
| 14:01.16 | Ironhand | Amarande: I just thought of something, have you set the bootable flag for any partition? |
| 14:01.22 | zamaliphe | sid: i have do apt-get update |
| 14:01.27 | xwind_ | Amarande: disk boot failure is more of an MBR issue, i think, |
| 14:01.43 | Ironhand | Amarande: some BIOSes don't like having no bootable partitions present, even if grub/debian could care less |
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| 14:03.01 | sid | zamaliphe: You weren't able to install that package? |
| 14:03.01 | sage_ | sid if i want to install mplayer + memencoder, i see to backdoor |
| 14:03.11 | sid | !tell sage_ about marillat |
| 14:03.25 | sid | !tell sage_ about marillat.sarge |
| 14:03.27 | Ironhand | Amarande: you should be able to set the flag easily from knoppix with a partitioner such as cfdisk (don't forget to write) |
| 14:03.44 | sage_ | sid thanks |
| 14:04.09 | zamaliphe | sid: yes |
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| 14:05.07 | sid | zamaliphe: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get build-dep apache2 |
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| 14:05.36 | sid | zamaliphe: If this doesn't work... do this # dpkg -al|grep -v ^ii; and put this on a paste site. |
| 14:06.17 | asg | sid: -a doesn't do anything on sarge. Also, ^ii will miss installed packages that are on hold |
| 14:06.42 | asg | sid: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep '^[hi|i]' (is a little more portable.) |
| 14:06.57 | sgeigerbot | When I use apt-setup the sources.list file always gets written with "stable". I've always just changed sources.list when I wanted to move to testing, but surely there's a way to have apt-setup automatically write "testing" lines. How? |
| 14:07.05 | sid | asg: learn something new everyday, thanks |
| 14:07.11 | asg | sid: you're welcome |
| 14:07.31 | sgeigerbot | /etc/debian_version? |
| 14:07.35 | sid | !tell sgeigerbot about apt-setup |
| 14:07.45 | cds | sid: Same error. |
| 14:07.46 | sgeigerbot | !+apt-setup |
| 14:07.47 | dpkg | [apt-setup] a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. no longer available in testing/unstable since base-config was removed, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html. Gone from etch and sid. |
| 14:09.08 | cds | sid: The INSTALL file does mention removing older versions. |
| 14:09.16 | cds | sid: How do I go about checking for any of them? |
| 14:10.19 | coywolf | sid |
| 14:10.21 | coywolf | sid stop |
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| 14:10.41 | sid | cds: dpkg -l|grep gimp |
| 14:10.56 | coywolf | sid it's not the problem i can't setup x, it's the fglrx module corrupted after a crash |
| 14:11.27 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SkqANm55.html |
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| 14:11.44 | sage_ | sid i want to export DISPLAY to user oracle, but i see i'm in not listen tcp |
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| 14:12.07 | sage_ | sid there an technic for pass other this |
| 14:12.16 | sid | lol, I'm being out numbered |
| 14:12.22 | sage_ | sid less to change not listen tcp |
| 14:12.25 | sid | ksshhhh koooooh |
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| 14:12.42 | sage_ | sid is the gourou of debian today :) |
| 14:14.23 | sid | cds: apt-get remove --purge gimp gimp-data libgimp2.0 libgimpprint1; apt-get install bzip2 build-essential; apt-get build-dep gimp; wget ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.3/gimp-2.3.9.tar.bz2; tar xvjf gimp-2.3.9.tar.bz2; cd gimp-2.3.9; ./configure; make; make install; |
| 14:14.23 | jlaw | may someone explain me how to get xorg running with the package from nvidia.com? |
| 14:14.47 | sid | !tell jlaw about nvidia one-liner |
| 14:14.50 | sid | !tell coywolf about fglrx |
| 14:14.51 | cds | sid: Ok. Take it I can ignore the wget command? |
| 14:15.01 | sid | cds: yea, edit it how you want |
| 14:15.07 | jlaw | !tell me -about nvidia one-liner |
| 14:15.30 | sid | jlaw: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner; /msg dpkg help; |
| 14:15.34 | sid | !tell jlaw about msgdpkg |
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| 14:16.07 | jlaw | sid, i knew ... thx anyway^^ |
| 14:16.18 | sid | sage_: What are you trying to do? |
| 14:16.34 | sid | sage_: You want to watch a movie on another machine/display? |
| 14:16.39 | sid | ssh X fowarding or something? |
| 14:17.01 | cds | Grr... |
| 14:17.08 | cds | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) |
| 14:17.11 | cds | I'm using sudo. |
| 14:17.30 | asg | cds: what exact command did you type? |
| 14:17.46 | cds | cds@aldgate:~/gimp-2.3.9$ sudo apt-get remove --purge gimp gimp-data libgimp2.0 libgimpprint1; apt-get install bzip2 build-essential; apt-get build-dep gimp; ./configure; make; make install; |
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| 14:18.07 | sid | !tell jlaw about nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 14:18.07 | sid | !tell jlaw about nvidia installer |
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| 14:18.19 | cds | Is it down to exiting updatedb with a ctrl-c? |
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| 14:18.35 | asg | cds: you need to use sudo after each ';' |
| 14:18.39 | cds | Aah |
| 14:18.40 | asg | cds: sudo foo ; sudo bar |
| 14:18.50 | sid | cds: Are you asking if it's ok to exit the "updatedb" command while it's running by control c'ing? |
| 14:18.51 | cds | I'll just su - ;) |
| 14:19.08 | cds | sid: Well, I did that, jsut wasnt' sure if it screwed anything up. |
| 14:19.18 | sid | nah, doesn't screw anything up |
| 14:19.19 | hjubal | hi |
| 14:19.22 | jlaw | sid ... i used the nvidia installer ... but that did not work properly |
| 14:19.28 | cds | sid: Cheers. |
| 14:19.29 | sid | !greet hjubal |
| 14:19.29 | dpkg | Moo, hjubal |
| 14:19.41 | hjubal | :) |
| 14:19.56 | sid | jlaw: There is a #nvidia channel on this network specifically for the wonderful non-free evil nvidia proprietary kernel module |
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| 14:20.29 | sgeigerbot | !+soap |
| 14:20.42 | cds | sid: Same. |
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| 14:21.57 | sid | cds: What is the same; you can't apt-get install that library? |
| 14:22.21 | sid | cds: What message are you getting when you do ./configure? put those results on a paste site |
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| 14:22.40 | cds | sid: Same error, nothing got removed or installed. |
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| 14:22.56 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/48Cj2l33.html |
| 14:23.03 | asg | sid: did he install the -dev package for the library in question? |
| 14:23.26 | sid | asg: apt-get build-dep gimp; should take care of that. |
| 14:23.33 | zamaliphe | sid: when i compill some thing should i use '/usr' or '/usr/foo' |
| 14:23.44 | asg | sid: ah okay, missed that earlier. |
| 14:23.55 | asg | cds: do a 'make clean' and run ./configure again |
| 14:24.01 | sid | zamaliphe: Whatever the default is; don't use --prefix unless you have to |
| 14:24.22 | sid | sgeigerbot |
| 14:24.23 | sid | !abuse |
| 14:24.23 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 14:24.45 | cds | (fwiw, I'm a she) |
| 14:24.48 | asg | zamaliphe: you should always use /usr/local/ or /usr/local/foo |
| 14:24.53 | cds | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 14:24.55 | learn2xplode | someone tell me how to use nmap to port scan machines on internet...?I am inside network firewall tht asks for proxy authentication.... |
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| 14:25.29 | sid | learn2xplode: man nmap has many examples |
| 14:25.45 | Symmetria | question, who can I speak to about becoming a debian mirror |
| 14:25.49 | cds | asg: ^ |
| 14:25.52 | sid | learn2xplode: This is no generic nmap command with specific options that applies for all cases. |
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| 14:26.03 | sid | !tell Symmetria about mirrors |
| 14:26.15 | asg | cds: I saw. Just untar the source again and ./configure |
| 14:26.27 | asg | Symmetria: there is plenty of info at www.debian.org |
| 14:26.35 | cds | asg: Why untar it again? |
| 14:26.45 | sid | Symmetria: dpkg messaged you with a link on exactly what to do. |
| 14:26.50 | Symmetria | thanks |
| 14:26.56 | asg | cds: then you get a pristine source tree |
| 14:26.59 | cds | Ah, ok. |
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| 14:27.25 | asg | cds: you can also manually remove the config.cache file which should force ./configure to retry the search for the new includes/libs |
| 14:27.27 | learn2xplode | sid:? |
| 14:27.45 | cds | asg: How do I do that? |
| 14:27.50 | learn2xplode | sid:U didn't get me |
| 14:27.53 | ma3x | if I have 4 nameservers in the /etc/resolv.conf, and I try to resolve a name, does debian ask the 1st nameserver and then goes to the 2nd or all at once? |
| 14:28.15 | asg | cds: rm config.cache (in the source tree iirc.) |
| 14:28.17 | learn2xplode | Sid:what if I want to use ping for the same purpose? |
| 14:28.24 | asg | ma3x: it checks in order |
| 14:28.25 | cds | asg: Ah, well, I rm'd it anyway. |
| 14:28.38 | sid | ma3x: man resolv.conf also explains what asg said |
| 14:28.40 | cds | asg: fwiw, pkg-config --list-all didn't bring up glib. |
| 14:28.42 | ma3x | asg, and where is the timeout defined? |
| 14:29.04 | cds | asg: No, didn't do it. |
| 14:29.22 | sid | cds: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep -v '^[hi|i]'; put that on a paste site |
| 14:29.34 | asg | ma3x: check resolv.conf(5) |
| 14:29.46 | learn2xplode | sid:I gotta set some env variable for proxy authentiction....env http_proxy=.....in case the program is using http,port:80.....which ports does the programs like ping and nmap use? |
| 14:29.53 | DaBlade | Hey. I've got a completely off topic question: The grass that grows in the water next to lakes (usually over a meter in length), what's it called? |
| 14:30.11 | asg | DaBlade: try google or wikipedia |
| 14:30.13 | DaBlade | on lake shores |
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| 14:30.13 | sid | DaBlade: eel grass |
| 14:30.15 | jlaw | erm ... when i "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" i am asked for the mouse protocol to use and get offered "ImPS/2" and "ExplorerPS/2" ... but i have an usb mouse ... so what shall i choose? |
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| 14:30.25 | pumpkin0 | jlaw: auto |
| 14:30.30 | DaBlade | sid: Ok |
| 14:30.56 | Blissex | jlaw: 'auto' as <pumpkin0> says or 'IMPS/2'... |
| 14:30.58 | jlaw | pumpkin0 ... there is no auto option ... i can just choose one of those two |
| 14:31.11 | jlaw | Blissex, k |
| 14:31.11 | sid | DaBlade: fresh water eel grass is called "Vallisneria" and salt water eel grass is called "Zostera" |
| 14:31.17 | learn2xplode | nebody plz help me |
| 14:31.19 | pumpkin0 | jlaw: use ImPS2 and change it to auto later. |
| 14:31.25 | DaBlade | sid: Thanks |
| 14:31.26 | cds | Hrm. |
| 14:31.32 | cds | Is rafb.net down for anyone? |
| 14:31.38 | cds | nm |
| 14:31.45 | sid | !tell cds about paste |
| 14:31.52 | asg | learn2xplode: ping uses icmp by default, nmap by default will scan most ports below 1500 |
| 14:31.52 | thingfish | !beer sid |
| 14:31.55 | Blissex | learn2xplode: ask specific question to the channel... |
| 14:31.56 | ma3x | asg so I specified my resolv.conf with nameserver 1, nameserver 2, and then another line like this: options timeout:1 <- is that good? |
| 14:31.57 | pumpkin0 | learn2xplode: ping does not use a port, it´s using ICMP-packets. |
| 14:32.13 | jayeola | (etch) hey chaps. i'm running `debootstrap --verbose etch /mnt/loop00 http://ftp.debian.org/debian` and nothing seems to be happening. if run it loads of time on sarge. any tips on debugging/tracing errors? |
| 14:32.14 | learn2xplode | okay |
| 14:32.23 | asg | ma3x: put the options line before the nameserver lines |
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| 14:32.36 | cds | sid: Um... |
| 14:33.07 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4Yrwm441.html |
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| 14:33.18 | learn2xplode | I am unable to to ping machines on internet...I am within a network firewall |
| 14:33.44 | learn2xplode | How should I do it? |
| 14:33.44 | asg | learn2xplode: your network may disallaw outbound pings. |
| 14:34.03 | pumpkin0 | is it possible to get a list of all files installed via apt ? (excluding stuff created in pre/post-install-scripts of course) |
| 14:34.05 | Blissex | learn2xplode: there are several different programs that allow probing, and they can use ICM, UDP or TCP. |
| 14:34.21 | asg | pumpkin0: dpkg -L <pkg> |
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| 14:34.24 | jlaw | do i have to compile nvidia frame buffer support into the kernel in order to do, what dpkg bot explains for "nvidia one-liner"? |
| 14:34.24 | Blissex | learn2xplode: try 'tracepath' and 'tcptracetroute' for example, or 'mtr' |
| 14:34.42 | asg | learn2xplode: try the hping3 package |
| 14:34.43 | pumpkin0 | asg: yes, i need that w/o a package name ... |
| 14:34.52 | learn2xplode | okay |
| 14:34.52 | sgeigerbot | pumpkin0: dpkg --listfiles <package> |
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| 14:35.14 | sgeigerbot | pumpkin0: what? without a package name? |
| 14:35.17 | ma3x | asg thanks |
| 14:35.27 | Blissex | jlaw: whatever you are trying to do, the kernel NVIDIA framebuffer is incompatible with the NVIDIA proprietary X driver and almost any X driver except 'fbdev'. |
| 14:35.32 | pumpkin0 | sgeigerbot: all files for all packages that are installed. |
| 14:35.37 | sgeigerbot | pumpkin0: Just get a list of all packages on your system and then use the command I gave. |
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| 14:36.12 | asg | pumpkin0: for i in $(COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep '^[hi|i]' | awk '{print $2}') ; do dpkg -L $i ; done |
| 14:36.27 | jlaw | Blissex ... well, i have installed xorg, but can't get it run with my nvidia (geforce 4 ti 4200) card |
| 14:36.27 | asg | pumpkin0: or some variation on that theme |
| 14:36.28 | pumpkin0 | asg: THANKS |
| 14:36.33 | sgeigerbot | asg: you are fast |
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| 14:36.51 | asg | sgeigerbot: even on this crappy macbook keyboard ;) |
| 14:36.57 | Blissex | jlaw: depends on what you mean by «get it to run» |
| 14:37.13 | sgeigerbot | asg: Why didn't you get a MBP? |
| 14:37.27 | jlaw | Blissex ... but the steps explained by "!tell me -about nvidia one-liner" fail |
| 14:37.34 | sgeigerbot | asg: That hits the spot! |
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| 14:37.36 | learn2xplode | Okay seems like I gotta question my network admin...thanx a lot |
| 14:37.38 | sid | !confuse sgeigerbot |
| 14:37.38 | dpkg | Yes, who is your bacon yesterday, sgeigerbot? pants of the people's republic of tibet with extra crabpaste |
| 14:37.48 | asg | sgeigerbot: work supplied it for me to do some testing; it has better battery life than my d600 |
| 14:37.54 | jlaw | Blissex ... for example "m-a a-i nvidia" does not work |
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| 14:38.00 | pumpkin0 | !tell me -about nvidia one-liner |
| 14:38.04 | cds | sid: ? |
| 14:38.20 | jlaw | Blissex ... or "apt-get install nvidia" has no installation candidate |
| 14:38.31 | sid | cds: in the gimp directory; do this; # ./configure; and put on paste site |
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| 14:38.35 | Blissex | jlaw: you need the non-free sources for APT |
| 14:38.49 | cds | sid: I have. |
| 14:38.57 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/48Cj2l33.html |
| 14:39.03 | jlaw | Blissex ... how do i have to alter my sources.list to get them? |
| 14:39.08 | sgeigerbot | asg: yeah, no kidding. I have a MBP. It's great. Did you know these have auto mdi? And it's easy to set up network profiles. |
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| 14:39.30 | cds | sid: I don't have apt-get install libglib2.0-dev |
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| 14:39.38 | sgeigerbot | asg: It's really a great tool for moving around in an office, working on sysadmin stuff. |
| 14:39.40 | cds | sid: Or rather, I don't have libglib2.0-dev |
| 14:39.45 | asg | sgeigerbot: yes. I've managed to cause it to kernel panic quite a few times though. I'm actually not very impressed with its stability |
| 14:39.50 | Blissex | jlaw: however depending on what you mean by «get it to run», you can sue the 'vesa' driver, the 'fbdev' driver with the nvidia FB driver, the 'nv' driver for X, the 'nvidia' driver with its matching kernel driver. |
| 14:40.13 | sgeigerbot | asg: I just haven't yet figured out how to use my usb-to-rs232 adapters to work so that I can use minicom. |
| 14:40.38 | asg | sgeigerbot: yeah, the lack of a serial port is a huge weakness for me |
| 14:40.46 | sgeigerbot | asg: maybe that's the difference between the MB and the MBP. |
| 14:40.54 | sid | cds: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev; put that on paste site |
| 14:41.03 | jlaw | Blissex ... i am used to play opengl games such as americas army, if i got it right i need the driver from nvidia.com (at least i used it with xfree86) |
| 14:41.05 | sgeigerbot | asg: My Thinkpad T42 doesn't have a serial port either. |
| 14:41.06 | asg | sgeigerbot: no, I have a MBP (One of the intel ones though so that might be the issue) |
| 14:41.37 | sgeigerbot | asg: those adapters aren't bad if you have set them up once...so that you can quickly do it again when necessary. |
| 14:41.41 | Blissex | jlaw: yes, for that you need the 'nvidia' driver. Another more comprehensive tutorial here: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 14:41.50 | sgeigerbot | asg: mine is also an intel one |
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| 14:42.11 | asg | sgeigerbot: A friend of mine has such an adapter for his R40. I usually use the d600 when I need to serial to switches/routers though. |
| 14:42.11 | IronRoses | could somone giv me sources for java installs please? |
| 14:42.13 | Blissex | jlaw: you want to check the "Install a pre-built module." section |
| 14:42.18 | asg | IronRoses: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 14:42.22 | IronRoses | thanks |
| 14:42.38 | cds | sid: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1) but 2.10.3-1 is to be installed |
| 14:42.38 | sid | !tell IronRoses about java-package |
| 14:42.42 | Blissex | jlaw: but I notice now that it is a bit old. Wait for something more recent |
| 14:42.47 | jlaw | Blissex: i already compiled a module fpr my 2.6.16.20 kernel |
| 14:42.57 | Amarande | Okay, this system is obstinately refusing to boot from HD. |
| 14:42.58 | Noriega | !tell Noriega about encryption |
| 14:43.01 | Noriega | :) |
| 14:43.06 | cds | sid: But... "libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version" |
| 14:43.15 | Amarande | When I first checked in cfdisk on Knoppix, it said there was a bad partition table, that two partitions were overlapping. |
| 14:43.24 | sid | !why is libglib2.0-dev not in testing |
| 14:43.25 | dpkg | libglib2.0-dev is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libglib2.0-dev |
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| 14:43.27 | sgeigerbot | asg: If you get a console server, then you would need that serial port on your lappy even less often. |
| 14:43.27 | Amarande | Scuttled the partition table, reinstalled Debian, made sure it was fine this time, doesn't boot. |
| 14:43.29 | Blissex | jlaw: to make it easy you should use only precompiled kernel, and kernel and X nvidia packages, else if becomes a bit hard for the less experienced. |
| 14:43.37 | Amarande | Tried a FreeBSD disc and can't even get through the install on that. |
| 14:43.51 | cds | sid: Then how do I install it? |
| 14:43.52 | pumpkin0 | Amarande: is the BIOS setup right ? |
| 14:43.59 | Amarande | pumpkin0: Appears to be, yes. |
| 14:44.04 | asg | sgeigerbot: I have a few console servers, just not enough for all the equipment we have |
| 14:44.05 | sid | !tell cds about snapshot |
| 14:44.07 | Amarande | DISK BOOT FAILURE etc. shows up, though. |
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| 14:44.11 | jlaw | Blissex ... i would not say i am completely unexperienced ... i just never used xorg before |
| 14:44.20 | Amarande | Interesting, however, was when I tried booting the FreeBSD CD in verbose mode I saw this: |
| 14:44.21 | cds | sid: What's that got to do with anything? |
| 14:44.32 | Amarande | ata0: stat=0x80 err=0x80 (both of the other parameters were 0x80 also) |
| 14:44.32 | asg | sgeigerbot: I'm off to lunch, I'll talk later |
| 14:44.54 | Amarande | (I'm not sure if any Linux disc has a similar diagnostic.) |
| 14:44.54 | sgeigerbot | asg: bye |
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| 14:44.59 | pumpkin0 | Amarande: i think the BIOS tries to start the wrong HD-disc |
| 14:45.01 | jlaw | Blissex ... my selfcompiled module worked fine for my 2.6.16.16 with xfree86 |
| 14:45.14 | Symmetria | I mirrored it all from belnet.be but something was screwed and now Im doing it from a primary site instead |
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| 14:45.45 | cds | sid: ? |
| 14:46.03 | sid | cds: I would do this...but it might break your system and I dunno if it will work. |
| 14:46.16 | sid | cds: No warranties are given; blah blah </disclaimer> |
| 14:46.18 | cds | Seems broken anyway... |
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| 14:46.23 | cds | So go ahead :p |
| 14:46.36 | Amarande | pumpkin0, there's only one HD in the system, though. |
| 14:47.04 | Blissex | jlaw: well, then just add backports.org to your repositories, it is the one that has the kernel/drivers for NVIDIA on Sarge. |
| 14:47.15 | pumpkin0 | Amarande: yes, but the BIOS will have options for the discs 1-4. Select boot-from-any-device or something like that. |
| 14:47.16 | IronRoses | just did apt-get install azureus and it's saying I have broken packages: sun-j2sdk and java2-runtime |
| 14:47.29 | jlaw | Blissex, thx |
| 14:47.32 | IronRoses | h, nope, their unmet packages :@ |
| 14:48.00 | sid | cds: wget http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/04/10/debian/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.10.2-1_i386.deb; dpkg -i --force-all libglib2.0-0_2.10.2-1_i386.deb; apt-get install libglib2.0-dev; |
| 14:48.20 | IronRoses | could somone just send me their source.list file plase, This is doing my head in I havn't used linux in ayeear now and have forgotten msot of what I knew...lol |
| 14:48.33 | Blissex | jlaw: then install packages 'nvidia-glx' and 'nvidia-kernel-2.6.14-2-686' (and probably also 'nvidia-settings') and the matching kernel. |
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| 14:49.02 | Blissex | jlaw_away: you need the 'nvidia-kernel-xxxx-xxxx' package matching your kernel of course. |
| 14:49.10 | avenger__ | hi |
| 14:49.18 | sid | cds: Then try ./configure again; |
| 14:49.18 | sid | !greet avenger__ |
| 14:49.19 | dpkg | Gr33tz, avenger__ |
| 14:49.28 | cds | sid: Thanks. |
| 14:49.51 | pumpkin0 | IronRoses: the java-packages have different names, depending on the source you install them from ... |
| 14:49.52 | cds | sid: Gah, that didn't do it either. |
| 14:49.58 | sid | cds: What happened? |
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| 14:50.41 | cds | sid: Same compile error. |
| 14:50.54 | sid | cds: Were you able to install that dev package? |
| 14:51.01 | cds | Yeah. |
| 14:51.19 | sid | Well that's a good sign. |
| 14:51.30 | sid | cds: When is the last time you did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 14:51.30 | cds | I think so, anyway. |
| 14:51.41 | cds | sid: It's not possible for me to, dodgy connectino. |
| 14:52.18 | sid | cds: Why not? |
| 14:52.29 | sid | cds: apt-get downloads all packages, then installs them. And you can download where you left off. |
| 14:52.43 | sid | cds: So if the download is interrupted, it will do no harm. |
| 14:53.01 | cds | sid: The connection dies after installing like 5mb. |
| 14:53.14 | cds | So if I was to upgrade a whole system, I'll be here all day. |
| 14:53.41 | cds | Hmm... okay.. |
| 14:53.47 | cds | This file now exists: |
| 14:53.49 | cds | /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc |
| 14:53.55 | cds | Doesn't that mean glib is installed? |
| 14:54.25 | sid | dpkg -S /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc |
| 14:54.26 | dpkg | You Fool! /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc is installed! |
| 14:54.48 | cds | libglib2.0-dev: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc |
| 14:55.45 | sid | cds: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep -v '^[hi|i]'; put that on a paste site |
| 14:56.03 | sid | See if we broke anything when we forced that package |
| 14:56.27 | sid | cds: You need to apt-get dist-upgrade; lol |
| 14:56.37 | cds | I wish I could :( |
| 14:56.38 | sid | cds: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get build-dep gimp; |
| 14:57.00 | sid | That will probably be faster then you filing each dependency manually for gimp all day |
| 14:57.28 | cds | sid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QmccKk20.html |
| 14:57.34 | cds | sid: Trust me, it won't. |
| 14:57.47 | sid | cds: Why don't you just setup a cron job to do apt-get -d dist-upgrade; every 5 minutes; for when you go to sleep |
| 14:58.14 | cds | Because I need to go downstairs and reset my ADSL modem every 5 minutes. |
| 14:58.33 | tjousk | hmmm, python is rather borked on my server; can't dist-upgrade... |
| 14:58.49 | sid | !tell tjousk about unstable |
| 14:58.59 | sid | !tell tjousk about bts |
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| 14:59.00 | pumpkin0 | tjousk: run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and try again. |
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| 15:00.42 | sid | cds: Get one of those outlet timers; and have it turn off/on the power on the modem every 5 minutes |
| 15:00.52 | sid | cds: And have your cronjob sync to the timer |
| 15:00.57 | cds | sid: Then how do I make it dial? |
| 15:01.14 | sid | cds: How do you make it dial now? |
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| 15:01.33 | cds | sid: By manually logging in as root and running ./connect |
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| 15:02.03 | sid | cds: So setup a cron job to do ./connect; then apt-get -d dist-upgrade; |
| 15:02.15 | cds | No. |
| 15:02.23 | sid | cds: Where are you from? |
| 15:02.34 | cds | Why? |
| 15:02.55 | sid | Because chances are you have a local university or something that mirrors debian.org |
| 15:03.05 | sid | You can just carry your box there, and plugin and then dist-upgrade |
| 15:03.28 | cds | They do mirror debian. |
| 15:03.35 | cds | Fat chance I'm carrying my computer all the way there. |
| 15:03.41 | cds | Fat chance they'll let me plug it in. |
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| 15:03.47 | gawaine | Does anyone know if, at the moment, xorg of unstable has problems ? (I would upgrade sid) |
| 15:04.39 | sid | cds: Just go into any room with a computer, then steal their cat5 wire for 5 minutes |
| 15:04.53 | cds | What do I do about the CCTV? |
| 15:04.59 | sid | You'll get full speeds, 10mbit or 100mbit depending on your nic/switch at the place |
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| 15:05.04 | cds | You're being stupid now. |
| 15:05.16 | IronRoses | dpkg nvidia-one-liner-install |
| 15:05.22 | IronRoses | ffs |
| 15:05.25 | sid | cds: Why don't you just ask them? |
| 15:05.58 | IronRoses | could some dpkg nvidia install for me please, thanks in advance |
| 15:06.01 | cds | sid: Because I know the answer. |
| 15:06.10 | cds | sid: It starts in 'n' and ends in 'o'. |
| 15:06.13 | sid | gawaine: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:06.25 | gawaine | sid: thanks |
| 15:06.39 | sid | cds: Any university near me that mirrors debian would let me just walk in and I could go to a public lab and they have cat5 on the table waiting for anyone |
| 15:06.52 | sid | cds: I can get gbit connections |
| 15:07.07 | cds | Plugging your own computers into the network is a bannable offense. |
| 15:07.11 | sid | It doesn't cost them anything, as they aren't pushing/pulling bandwidth. It's all local. so no money lost |
| 15:07.13 | cds | I know. |
| 15:07.20 | cds | Because I used to work for them. |
| 15:07.38 | cds | No, it just costs the time spent killing all the viruses introduced to the network. |
| 15:07.38 | sid | cds: Don't you have another place you could go to? |
| 15:07.43 | cds | No. |
| 15:07.48 | sid | cds: Or does the place you used to work at have an open wireless access point? |
| 15:08.05 | cds | I don't have wireless. |
| 15:08.05 | sid | cds: But you're running GNU / Linux. You don't have viruses. |
| 15:08.22 | cds | sid: Have you ever tried explaining that to your local network admin? |
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| 15:08.29 | sid | They can just stick you on the isolated dmz; along with the repository most likely |
| 15:08.31 | cds | "It's linux! It's good! Honest!" |
| 15:08.40 | sid | And you're isolated from the internet network |
| 15:08.43 | cds | sid: How old are you? |
| 15:09.05 | jlaw | man, i'd never expected installin the nvidia package with xorg to be such a big deal o_O |
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| 15:09.10 | sid | s/internet/internal |
| 15:09.32 | sid | jlaw: Blame nvidia. Call them and tell them you want free software drivers. |
| 15:09.37 | cds | sid: And you think they'll mess with the network topology just for me? Doubt it. |
| 15:09.45 | sid | cds: Old enough to not answer that question online. :0 |
| 15:09.50 | jlaw | sid ... yea ... i think i will do that^^ |
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| 15:10.34 | sid | cds: They shouldn't have to touch the network topology. Any big network has a dmz where they put shit the public is able to access; cds if you are able to access the network from your home now; there is no reason you can go there and access it. You pose no more a security risk to them. |
| 15:11.09 | sid | s/reason you can/reason you can't/ |
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| 15:13.03 | IronRoses | could somone dpkg the nvidia install....I stupidly have a forgotten the damn command |
| 15:14.02 | drasko | hi all. Is there an easy way to remove unused packages via apt-get? |
| 15:14.07 | sid | Ironhand: /msg dpkg nvidia installer; /msg dpkg help; |
| 15:14.08 | sid | !tell Ironhand about msgdpkg |
| 15:14.09 | IronRoses | can somone please dpkg nvidia-install for me, don't know the command and it ain't n the topic anymor either... |
| 15:14.27 | Ironhand | thank you so much sid :-P |
| 15:14.35 | sid | !tell drasko about apt-get remove |
| 15:14.36 | thingfish | IronRoses: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 15:14.42 | IronRoses | thanks matey |
| 15:15.31 | drasko | sid, I was more thinking about apt-get autoclean. What is it exactly for? |
| 15:15.55 | sid | drasko: man apt-get |
| 15:15.59 | sgeigerbot | drasko: I think the man page covers it. |
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| 15:16.18 | nse | libfreetype6 is still breaking my fonts |
| 15:17.45 | drasko | sid, sgeigerbot, it covers it, but it is confusing... Should I do autoclean or clean to remove packages. And will it remove somthing I might need. I am afraid to break something, but I am runng low on space on HD. |
| 15:18.21 | sid | !apt-get autoclean |
| 15:18.21 | dpkg | apt-get autoclean is probably like apt-get clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless. This allows a cache to be maintained over a long period without it growing out of control. |
| 15:18.26 | sid | drasko: That is what autoclean does. |
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| 15:19.26 | sid | !tell nse about X11R7 breakage |
| 15:19.40 | sgeigerbot | drasko: there's nothing that keeps track of how often you use packages. you need to know what you want to remove. |
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| 15:20.27 | sid | drasko: type "apt-get clean; df -h; |
| 15:20.39 | pumpkin0 | drasko: and install deborphan. |
| 15:20.44 | Xenguy | drasko: try the autoclean option first; 'filelight' is a useful app for viewing/purging files on a hard-drive |
| 15:20.53 | sid | drasko: If you have never done "apt-get clean;" that should clear up a significant amount of hard disk space. |
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| 15:21.07 | drasko | sid, I never did it |
| 15:21.22 | sid | drasko: do it now quickly!!! |
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| 15:21.25 | sid | !confuse drasko |
| 15:21.25 | dpkg | No, where was our hamster yesterday, drasko? breeches of the monarchy of swaziland with extra herring |
| 15:21.41 | drasko | :) |
| 15:21.51 | sgeigerbot | !srt sid |
| 15:23.25 | elik | uh oh |
| 15:23.25 | tam | is there any alternatives to wget? |
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| 15:23.45 | sid | !tell tam about curl |
| 15:24.18 | drasko | sid, thanks, apt-get clean gave me exatra 1GB! |
| 15:24.23 | tam | ta |
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| 15:24.45 | sid | drasko: awesome; glad to hear it. |
| 15:24.59 | sid | drasko: Do apt-get clean; after you are done installing something; or done with dist-upgrade; |
| 15:25.38 | elik | What is the sarge package for kernell sources? |
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| 15:26.38 | sid | !curl |
| 15:26.38 | dpkg | from memory, curl is a command line tool for transferring files with URL syntax, supporting FTP, FTPS, HTTP, HTTPS, TFTP, Telnet, DICT, FILE and LDAP. supports HTTPS certificates, HTTP POST, HTTP PUT, FTP uploading, Kerberos, HTTP form based upload, proxies, cookies, user+password authentication, file transfer resume, http proxy tunneling. distributed under MIT License; apt-get install curl; |
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| 15:26.47 | sid | tam: That is what curl is; ignore what dpkg said it was initially |
| 15:26.58 | amc | how can i check if my nvidia drivers work properly? |
| 15:27.06 | sid | !tell elik about apt-cache |
| 15:27.14 | sid | elik: apt-cache search kernel-sources |
| 15:27.26 | elik | thx |
| 15:27.31 | elik | tried it with a space |
| 15:27.33 | SerajewelKS | god i hate commercial routers. from the help page: Hackers can use ping to launch an attack against your network, because ping can determine the number form of the network?s IP address (such as 105.246.172.72) from the domain name (for example, www.mynetwork.com). If you enable Block Ping, your network will block all ping requests. |
| 15:27.52 | sid | !tell amc about glxinfo |
| 15:28.12 | sid | amc: glxinfo||grep render |
| 15:28.12 | sid | amc: glxinfo|grep render |
| 15:28.24 | amc | thx |
| 15:28.30 | tam | sid: yeah, cheers :) |
| 15:28.39 | sid | SerajewelKS: What router model #? |
| 15:29.00 | sid | amc: You can also use glxgears; to see your frames per second with that program |
| 15:29.03 | roxy_ | is there a tutorial included in mc ? |
| 15:29.10 | sid | !glxgears |
| 15:29.11 | dpkg | i guess glxgears is an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 15:29.11 | SerajewelKS | sid: some 2WIRE crap |
| 15:29.24 | SerajewelKS | sid: my favorite part is "because ping can determine the number form of the network?s IP address" |
| 15:29.28 | sid | tam: But you have to give glxgears a special option run # glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark |
| 15:29.54 | SerajewelKS | sid: it's a 2WIRE 1701HG Gateway |
| 15:30.08 | tam | sid: wrong person hehe. i'm not using glxgears :) |
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| 15:30.28 | elik | sid, is there a way to get 2.6.15 sources? had some issues with the 2.6.8 at installation |
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| 15:31.18 | roxy_ | anyone knows a good tutorial for mc ? |
| 15:31.21 | Nekomagesdesu | just wondering if there was a debian forum hidden somewhere >_> |
| 15:31.31 | elik | sid, apt-cache only returned 2.6.8 kernel tree |
| 15:31.40 | amc | 'direct rendering: Yes' That means that i have the drivers installed properly and working, right? |
| 15:31.42 | roxy_ | !mc |
| 15:31.43 | dpkg | i guess mc is Midnight Commander, a file browser for GNU. Monaco Stop! Hammertime! |
| 15:31.53 | roxy_ | !monaco |
| 15:31.56 | gawaine | amc: yes |
| 15:31.58 | sid | elik: What are you trying to do? |
| 15:31.58 | sid | amc: But you have to give glxgears a special option run # glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark |
| 15:32.00 | sid | roxy_: man mc? |
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| 15:32.22 | elik | sid, I'll paste you a buch of stuff on paste that explains what I'm trying to do |
| 15:32.25 | sid | !tell Nekomagesdesu about forum |
| 15:32.31 | elik | sid, It's kinda long |
| 15:32.32 | elik | !paste |
| 15:32.32 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:32.41 | Nekomagesdesu | domo sid |
| 15:32.43 | amc | 8481 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1695.412 FPS?! |
| 15:32.50 | Nekomagesdesu | just could not seem to find it ^^ |
| 15:33.02 | sid | roxy_ / elik : /msg dpkg help; /msg dpkg blahhere; |
| 15:33.04 | sid | !msgdpkg |
| 15:33.04 | dpkg | "/msg" is a command in most IRC clients to send a private message (PM) to a user. dpkg is a bot, who responds to certain keywords with information. If somebody tells you to "/msg dpkg something", type that into your IRC client and dpkg will tell you something in private to keep clutter off the main channel. Make sure you don't leave a space between the start of the line and the "/msg". |
| 15:33.16 | roxy_ | sid: I was more looking for some basic stuff to get started, I am not looking for anything in particular |
| 15:33.31 | sid | roxy_: Did you try their website? |
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| 15:34.13 | elik | sid, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2930 |
| 15:34.21 | sid | roxy_: I bet they have a FAQ on their website. go to google and put in "midnight commander faq" and hit I'm feeling lucky |
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| 15:34.22 | sid | !faq |
| 15:34.23 | f0urtyfive | Please do not ask questions until you've read the FAQ at http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/World_Wind_FAQ |
| 15:34.23 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 15:35.14 | roxy_ | sid: thanks, I am trying to make some sens of the /msg dpkg help and /msg dpkg blahhere :-) |
| 15:36.42 | liable | !faq |
| 15:36.42 | f0urtyfive | Please do not ask questions until you've read the FAQ at http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/World_Wind_FAQ |
| 15:36.43 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 15:36.51 | liable | f0urtyfive: who owns you |
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| 15:37.52 | sid | !tell roxy_ about mc |
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| 15:38.59 | roxy_ | sid: were you telling me to use /msg dpkg instead of using !xxx when it was my _personnal_ question ? |
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| 15:39.13 | usn_work | hi folx |
| 15:39.26 | five0 | clever! |
| 15:39.31 | elik | roxy_, yes |
| 15:39.47 | nse | wonderful! an upgrade for something related to my fonts (maybe fontconfig) corrected the breakage that libfreetype6 was doing in my fonts |
| 15:39.51 | sid | roxy_: yes; Like if I am unsure of something and I want dpkg's help. Say I wan to install java; I don't come in here and do !java for everyone to see; that clutters the channel. roxy_ I do /msg dpkg java; and talk to dpkg in private. |
| 15:40.06 | elik | roxy_, As a personnal experience, ppl dont like when you make dpkg tell you something in the public channel |
| 15:40.18 | elik | !tell roxy_ about tell yourself |
| 15:40.19 | roxy_ | I just typed /msg dpkg blahher :-) . sorry about that. |
| 15:40.47 | elik | sid, did you understand what I'm trying to do with the paste? |
| 15:41.09 | nse | there is not a large problem in telling yourself, actually it is funny |
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| 15:41.46 | solars | hi, does anyone know the wpa_supplicant.conf equivalent to the /etc/network/interfaces "wireless-keymode restricted" ? |
| 15:41.53 | sid | elik: You're pissed off that you keep hitting your touchpad with your hand while you type. So you want to disable it? |
| 15:42.08 | elik | sid, yes, when I have a usb mouse plugged in |
| 15:42.18 | elik | sid, I'm having 2 problems |
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| 15:43.31 | elik | sid, I need to be able to make the difference between the usb mouse and the touchpad so mouse0 always point to touchpad and mouse1 to the usb mouse... that way I can config my xserver to use synaptics driver (whichI have to install) instead of the good old mouse driver |
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| 15:44.55 | elik | sid, I think you can do the first thing by configuring rules in udev, but for that I would have to know what is the constant /dev usb mouse and ps2 touchpad are naturally on |
| 15:45.31 | stew | elik: you don't need to point your x config at a device at all for synaptics |
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| 15:45.57 | elik | sid, as mouse0 and mouse1 are mapped when loading the drivers (I think) it might affect mouse0 to one one time and then mouse1 the other time |
| 15:46.15 | elik | sid, you have a more simple solution, I would be glad to go this way |
| 15:46.54 | stew | elik: i don't understand what is keeping you from setting up your xserver to use synaptics now |
| 15:47.30 | elik | stew, I think I dont have the driver installed |
| 15:47.40 | stew | elik: which x server are you using? |
| 15:47.53 | elik | stew, XFree86 |
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| 15:48.07 | stew | elik: apt-get install xfree86-driver-synaptics |
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| 15:48.40 | elik | stew, wow... it works :P |
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| 15:49.04 | elik | stew, so now I will be able to specify a device to use synaptics driver |
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| 15:49.09 | elik | stew, second problem now |
| 15:49.22 | stew | elik: dont specify a device |
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| 15:49.29 | elik | stew, ??? |
| 15:49.37 | stew | elik: its not necessary IME |
| 15:49.45 | elik | stew, IME? |
| 15:49.51 | stew | in my experience |
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| 15:50.06 | elik | stew, ok, but are you sure you are trying to do same thing as me |
| 15:50.11 | elik | stew, my touchpad works |
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| 15:50.28 | elik | stew, what I'm trying to do is have it deactivated when I have a USB mouse connected |
| 15:50.34 | elik | stew, at startup at least |
| 15:50.55 | stew | hrm |
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| 15:52.34 | elik | stew, does that complicate stuff? |
| 15:52.42 | stew | elik: i don't know how you would do that |
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| 15:53.56 | elik | stew, if you are interested, http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/ and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad |
| 15:54.25 | sid | elik: You can remove /dev/mouse and /dev/psaux from the XF86Config file to disable the ps2 and use /dev/input/mice with a usb mouse. |
| 15:54.31 | sid | (I think?) |
| 15:54.59 | dvs | sid: No, /dev/input/mice will still recognise both the PS/2 and USB |
| 15:55.05 | elik | yup |
| 15:55.14 | sid | elik: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ maybe? |
| 15:55.36 | stew | and touchpad will find the hardware even if you specify a /dev/foo that doesn't exist |
| 15:55.48 | stew | err s/touchpad/synpatics driver/ |
| 15:56.14 | elik | asmy previous config used#dev#input#mice and touch pad worked |
| 15:56.27 | elik | ??? stew? |
| 15:57.22 | stew | my config used to point to "/dev/muose" (sic) until i realized that there was a mistake there (since /dev/muose doesn't exist) but it worked anyway, not mine has no Device option at all and still works |
| 15:57.56 | stew | http://vireo.org/~stew/xorg.conf.dualhead is my config, you'll notice that there is no Device entry in my synaptics section |
| 15:58.00 | elik | ok |
| 15:58.40 | stew | elik: you'd have to disable it with tpconfig or something, but you'd have to have a way to be notivied when a usb mouse is attached, probably something involving hal, but i don't know what that would be on sarge |
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| 15:59.39 | elik | stew, at startup it's ok |
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| 15:59.57 | zamaliphe | i have start apache but i Could not connect to host 127.0.0.1. |
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| 16:00.13 | elik | stew, dont want hot plug detection |
| 16:00.45 | elik | stew, I am using ksynaptics, but you have to target a device... |
| 16:00.59 | elik | stew, but device is not constant |
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| 16:01.34 | solemnwarning | Why have the debian mirrors been breaking so much lately? |
| 16:01.35 | stew | elik: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 16:02.43 | liable | wenas |
| 16:02.46 | PeNNiSmEn | hi.. how can i stop attack DDoS in apache? |
| 16:02.47 | PeNNiSmEn | thanks |
| 16:03.00 | Eclipser | shut it down for a few minutes |
| 16:03.30 | Eclipser | trace the source(s) perhaps and report |
| 16:03.31 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: what kind of DDoS-attack ? |
| 16:03.40 | elik | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 16:03.44 | elik | stew |
| 16:04.04 | PeNNiSmEn | pumpkin0 |
| 16:04.12 | stew | elik: maybe try putting "psmouse" into /etc/modules so that you ensure it gets loaded before usbmouse, which might make your touchpad always get mouse0 |
| 16:04.14 | PeNNiSmEn | mmm open many conexions |
| 16:04.43 | PeNNiSmEn | diferents ports remove and 80 local |
| 16:04.52 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: have you cross-check the usual suspects like slashdot ? |
| 16:05.13 | stew | PeNNiSmEn: you cannot do anything about a ddos except maybe shutdown apache |
| 16:05.21 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: all from the same IP-range ? |
| 16:05.28 | PeNNiSmEn | pumpkin0 |
| 16:05.30 | PeNNiSmEn | no |
| 16:05.34 | PeNNiSmEn | range diferent |
| 16:05.41 | PeNNiSmEn | i have one program |
| 16:06.06 | PeNNiSmEn | you put ip and Block and send packagues and apache KO |
| 16:06.06 | PeNNiSmEn | .... |
| 16:06.11 | elik | stew, hum, sure it would work? |
| 16:06.15 | PeNNiSmEn | i am spanish my english is very bad |
| 16:06.17 | stew | elik: no |
| 16:06.22 | stew | PeNNiSmEn: are you using debian? |
| 16:06.27 | PeNNiSmEn | yes stew |
| 16:06.30 | elik | stew, lol, you seemed hesitating :P |
| 16:06.55 | elik | stew, thx for the tips, will try it out |
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| 16:06.58 | PeNNiSmEn | Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 |
| 16:07.04 | PeNNiSmEn | it is my debian :D |
| 16:07.27 | elik | stew, psmouse is in modules :( |
| 16:07.36 | stew | elik: is usbmouse? |
| 16:07.48 | elik | nope |
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| 16:07.58 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: shutdown the server for 5 min and try again. |
| 16:08.15 | PeNNiSmEn | pumpkin0 yes |
| 16:08.19 | PeNNiSmEn | but it send all time |
| 16:08.20 | elik | stew, you think it should be constant then? |
| 16:08.41 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: can you change the IP ? |
| 16:08.48 | stew | elik: no idea, it was just a guess |
| 16:08.49 | PeNNiSmEn | yes |
| 16:08.57 | PeNNiSmEn | mi ip change three times |
| 16:08.58 | PeNNiSmEn | ..... |
| 16:09.05 | PeNNiSmEn | but my dominio is off |
| 16:09.20 | PeNNiSmEn | if i change ip my dominio off |
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| 16:11.46 | pumpkin0 | PeNNiSmEn: join #debian-es and explain it to them. I don´t really understand... |
| 16:12.04 | PeNNiSmEn | pumpkin0 okz |
| 16:12.05 | PeNNiSmEn | thanks |
| 16:12.11 | stew | there is nothing really to understand. he wants to stop a ddos, and you can't |
| 16:12.13 | keep | im still getting -c command not found while running a make file i have checked out make documnet and sevral links on the net i have put CC=gcc any other documnts i should be reading the make --manual dosent seem to be helping |
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| 16:14.36 | itguru | I got a mad problem... how can I find out why webpages take like a hour to load, but MSN traffic, IRC traffic, still run at the same speed? |
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| 16:15.38 | pumpkin0 | If a debian box runs totaly out of ram (and swap): what does the stock-debian-kernel 2.6.11 do ? kill a prog or just crash ? |
| 16:15.59 | pumpkin0 | itguru: post your /etc/resolv.conf somewhere ... |
| 16:16.15 | dvs | pumpkin0: it starts killing processes: OOM killer |
| 16:17.17 | cinix | pumpkin0, hopefully it kills something, when it has happened to me it sometimes takes a very long time |
| 16:17.26 | pumpkin0 | dvs: can i tell the kernel which process to kill first ? (processes from user X would be best ...) |
| 16:17.37 | dvs | pumpkin0: I don't know |
| 16:17.58 | kronoz | is debian ever gonna use a different init scheme to systemV5 init? |
| 16:18.11 | dvs | kronoz: why? |
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| 16:18.26 | bedouin | I have a man page for 'send' but when I try to use send it says command not found. Any ideas? |
| 16:18.49 | dvs | bedouin: send is in /usr/sbin or /sbin? |
| 16:19.06 | kronoz | dvs, for the sake of speed maybe, i don't really see many reason why it should i am just asking |
| 16:19.22 | bedouin | No . . . what package contains send? |
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| 16:19.26 | keep | ok what channel then |
| 16:19.30 | keep | MT sorry |
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| 16:22.01 | fhffhqvb | ... |
| 16:22.10 | dvs | what a massive flood that was! |
| 16:22.21 | stew | seems like don's connection might be a little wonky |
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| 16:22.51 | dpkg | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of fhffhqvb) |
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| 16:22.59 | dvs | !shut up |
| 16:23.07 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
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| 16:23.17 | amc | lol |
| 16:24.24 | roxy_ | is there a way to browse directories in vim ? |
| 16:24.58 | zamolxes | roxy_: :new . |
| 16:25.23 | roxy_ | zamolxes: thanks |
| 16:25.30 | zamolxes | roxy_: just open the path as you would open a file |
| 16:25.51 | zamolxes | *cough* #vim *cough* |
| 16:28.07 | roxy_ | zamolxes: I have been using emacs for the last 5 years, but I want to pass the lpi certification so I need to know some vi. I'll go to #vim for further question :-) |
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| 16:31.06 | bedouin | Any idea why I don't have 'send' installed? Which package would provide it? |
| 16:31.33 | SlayerXP | bedouin: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 16:31.50 | bedouin | yeah I searched there for send or a package containing it.. not turning up |
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| 16:32.13 | SlayerXP | bedouin: what does this 'send' do? |
| 16:32.26 | bedouin | sends messages to a user's terminal |
| 16:32.37 | bedouin | i have a man page for it.. but it's nowhere to be found on my system |
| 16:32.48 | SlayerXP | there's two packages that contain a binary called that |
| 16:33.20 | SlayerXP | neither seems to do what you want, though |
| 16:33.27 | bedouin | they're all part of mail apps.. |
| 16:33.34 | SlayerXP | *nods* |
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| 16:38.20 | rmbrain | i was having problems using Firefox to print. Anyone have any ideas? This problem seems to be exclusive to all the web browsers in Debian Sarge. I have not tested others. |
| 16:39.43 | zamolxes | rmbrain: a pink dwarf jumps out of your printer? |
| 16:39.58 | bedouin | heh |
| 16:40.01 | bedouin | I actually wanted 'write' |
| 16:40.02 | zamolxes | rmbrain: you have to be more specific than that , problems can mean a lot of things |
| 16:40.03 | rmbrain | zamolxes: not really, but close: It wont print at all! |
| 16:40.05 | bedouin | I was thinking of my old days on VMS |
| 16:40.10 | rmbrain | zamolxes: ok i will be then |
| 16:40.11 | bedouin | send was the command that did the same thing... |
| 16:40.17 | bedouin | haven't used the command in so long I forgot |
| 16:40.36 | zamolxes | rmbrain: does print preview work? |
| 16:40.50 | rmbrain | zamolxes: yes but that is irrelevant to actually _printing_ the document. |
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| 16:41.39 | zamolxes | rmbrain: mkay, whatever, but at the end of the day, I can print from firefox and you can't :) |
| 16:41.52 | zamolxes | rmbrain: does print to file work? |
| 16:41.54 | SAJChurchey | Can anybody tell me why I might be getting "skipping non-regular files" when using backuppc (rsync) |
| 16:42.01 | itguru | pumpkin0: sorry about that, this stupid net connection! |
| 16:42.19 | rmbrain | zamolxes: i have cupsys set up and everything works fine from other programs, but for some odd reason -- not Firefox. I press print, then nothing appears in the queue. |
| 16:42.40 | zamolxes | rmbrain: good, that's more info |
| 16:42.44 | zamolxes | rmbrain: but does print to file work? |
| 16:43.20 | itguru | IIRC, webpages are suppose to timeout, are they not? what what cause a webpage to continualy attempt to load? |
| 16:43.24 | rmbrain | zamolxes: i dont know -- right now i am on fedora core 5 |
| 16:43.31 | rmbrain | zamolxes: do you have an idea? |
| 16:43.50 | RvGaTe | is there anyone here that uses debian sarge as a desktop, and is able to play counterstrike source using wine... im having troubles with starting up steam |
| 16:43.55 | RvGaTe | +? |
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| 16:45.12 | zamolxes | rmbrain: well ideeas should come after a succesful diagnostic, which we don't have yet |
| 16:45.14 | pumpkin0 | itguru: depends on the site and the problem. Example: DNS-problems can cause every long delays in loading the first page from a server, but IRC and IM works just fine. |
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| 16:46.16 | zamolxes | rmbrain: do you have xprint installed? |
| 16:46.32 | itguru | pumpkin0: which was my assesment - but i've stopped using my ISPs DNS servers, because they constantly have issues, and i've been using the openDNS servers |
| 16:47.18 | pumpkin0 | itguru: how many dns-server do you have in your /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 16:47.43 | itguru | pumpkin0: 2 |
| 16:48.37 | pumpkin0 | itguru: if the first one fails your box will not notice. it will wait for some timeout and afterwards try the other one. Change the order and try again. Better ? |
| 16:48.58 | itguru | pumpkin0: 217.146.139.5 and 62.157.101.211 |
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| 16:50.57 | pumpkin0 | itguru: here both are working well. Do you have a not-so-stable internet con with lot´s of lost packages ? |
| 16:51.10 | itguru | pumpkin0: Yes |
| 16:51.19 | itguru | sometimes pings go funny |
| 16:51.40 | itguru | sometimes perfect |
| 16:51.47 | itguru | without any changes to system config |
| 16:51.53 | pumpkin0 | itguru: dial-up, DSL or cable ? |
| 16:52.06 | itguru | DSL |
| 16:52.31 | pumpkin0 | itguru: did you ask for fast-path (lower pings) ? |
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| 16:53.03 | itguru | pumpkin0: fast path? |
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| 16:54.00 | pumpkin0 | itguru: some DSL-provider offer fastpath. it lowers the ping-times, makes games more responsive. And it sometimes causes a lt of dropped packages, |
| 16:54.29 | itguru | pumpkin0: nothing like that - this connection has been running fine for three years |
| 16:55.17 | pumpkin0 | itguru: but you did change the DNS-servers latly ? |
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| 16:55.35 | itguru | pumpkin0: No, had them like that for months |
| 16:55.55 | itguru | pumpkin0: That's why it's so baffling, I've made no changes whatsoever |
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| 16:57.10 | pumpkin0 | itguru: and you didn´t connect a new phone or something ? |
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| 16:57.22 | itguru | pumpkin0: nothing |
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| 16:57.27 | L0rd | Hello |
| 16:58.07 | pumpkin0 | itguru: do you have a DSL-router or DSL-modem ? |
| 16:58.12 | L0rd | Could you help me pls thats my problem tcp6 .. now i want to remove tcp6 or if tcp6 cant removed so i want to close tcp6 .. how can i do .. ? |
| 16:58.24 | L0rd | help me pls i dont want to thats tcp6 ? |
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| 16:59.01 | itguru | DSL-Router - no configurations have ben changed on it |
| 16:59.41 | pumpkin0 | itguru: *g* but most routers include a check-the-line-noise util. Try that one. |
| 16:59.45 | L0rd | is there any people .. ? |
| 17:00.08 | pumpkin0 | L0rd: tcp6 is related to ipv6. Do you need ipv6 ? |
| 17:00.14 | itguru | pumpkin0: I'm about 400 meters from the local exchange :) |
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| 17:00.34 | L0rd | pumpkin0: no i want to remove tcp6 or ipv6 i dont need .. |
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| 17:01.23 | LoneWlf | how do I make dpkg forget about a package that it didn't successfully install and can't remove? |
| 17:01.35 | pumpkin0 | itguru: the packages have to be dropped somewhere. in your local network, in your PC, on the DSL-line or at your ISP. test one after the other ... |
| 17:01.42 | itguru | when I dig for domains, I get instant responses, with the corret IP address etc - when it comes to actually VIEWING webpages, that's when nothing happens. So I know that my system can actually find stuff, data just doesn't want to come down the wire :( |
| 17:01.47 | pumpkin0 | L0rd: apt-get remove tcp6 ... ? |
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| 17:02.16 | LoneWlf | pumpkin0, tried that, it can't remove it either :( |
| 17:02.40 | pumpkin0 | LoneWlf: apt-get -f install; apt-get -f remove <package> ... ? |
| 17:02.52 | tralala | L0rd: /msg dpkg net-pf-10 |
| 17:02.54 | LoneWlf | right, that's what doesn't work |
| 17:03.08 | itguru | pumpkin0: Can you give me the URL to a 5 meg file, say from sourceforge, or something, I want to try and use wget, and see how long it takes |
| 17:04.01 | pumpkin0 | itguru: did you try to change the browser ? |
| 17:04.18 | pumpkin0 | LoneWlf: what is the error msg ? |
| 17:04.34 | itguru | pumpkin0: firefox, safari, opera, netscape, IE, all the same :) |
| 17:05.05 | pumpkin0 | IE?? |
| 17:05.42 | LoneWlf | pumpkin0: well, history first, I'm actually using ubuntu and not debian at this current juncture, but they didn't have a package that I wanted, so I attempted to install the .deb file and it failed miserably, and now it won't go away, same thing that happens when a package is actually broken in debian... can't execute pieces of the uninstall and the install... |
| 17:06.09 | pumpkin0 | itguru: if all your boxes have the same problem: ask the ISP. |
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| 17:06.59 | pumpkin0 | LoneWlf: 1. join #ubuntu. 2. which package and how did it fail at the frist try ? |
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| 17:08.14 | L0rd | debian:/proc/net# cat /etc/modutils/aliases | grep net-pf-10 |
| 17:08.14 | L0rd | alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6 |
| 17:08.14 | L0rd | debian:/proc/net# |
| 17:08.24 | L0rd | now is it disabled thats iptables ? |
| 17:08.32 | LoneWlf | pumpkin0, 1, k, 2, don't have the error anymore, but it basically couldn't execute a few things for tying it into the desktop, I've given up on getting it in, too proprietary... have to go to the source, just want apt to forget about it, cause now I can't install/uninstall any other packages |
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| 17:10.46 | pumpkin0 | LoneWlf: the install-script failed because you mixed ubuntu, debian and propably other stuff. try "dpkg purge <package>" |
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| 17:10.56 | LoneWlf | kk |
| 17:10.57 | tralala | L0rd: now you have to restart and the ipv6 module won't be loaded anymore so no ipv6 support |
| 17:11.02 | pumpkin0 | Loady: "dpkg --purge <package>" |
| 17:12.04 | L0rd | tralala: thank you so very much .. |
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| 17:12.56 | Tallu | Anyone here have time to tell me more about securing my sshd. I was thinking of issuing keys for login but I'm not too familiar with this.. also any other security ideas for vanilla debian sarge would be very welcome |
| 17:12.56 | Aubustou | hello |
| 17:13.22 | icmp | has anyone had any luck with the bcm4212 winmodem? |
| 17:13.39 | Aubustou | does anyone know a good server stats program? |
| 17:14.08 | f0urtyfive | liable: uh no one? :P |
| 17:15.22 | LoneWlf | pumpkin0, ok, I got it gone, had to modify the preinst/postrem scripts that it said it was having issues with... never a dull moment, thank you for you help |
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| 17:16.50 | pumpkin0 | LoneWlf: for the next one: "dpkg --force-all --purge <package>" Use with care.... |
| 17:16.56 | L0rd | :S |
| 17:16.58 | L0rd | :S:S:S:S |
| 17:17.16 | L0rd | dos atacking |
| 17:17.16 | L0rd | tcp6 0 0 xeon093.server4you.:www ::ffff:88.233.251.:4665 ESTABLISHED |
| 17:17.16 | L0rd | tcp6 0 0 xeon093.server4you.:www ::ffff:88.233.251.:4920 ESTABLISHED |
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| 17:17.16 | L0rd | tcp6 0 0 xeon093.server4you.:www ::ffff:88.233.251.:4670 ESTABLISHED |
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| 17:17.23 | Chihork | Hello. I'm trying to build something that is dependant upon the X libraries and headers (configure is looking for headers in <X11/>) and I'm trying to figure out what Debian package I need to install, if any, to remedy the situation. |
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| 17:19.01 | pumpkin0 | Chihork: apt-get install xserver-<something>-dev. (xorg or xfree ... ) |
| 17:19.09 | icmp | I was kind of hoping there would be a deb package for this winmodem :/ |
| 17:19.10 | LoneWlf | pumpkin0, I'm thinking, I just won't mix them... I'll do what I used to do... if it don't exist, go with the source Luke :) |
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| 17:21.03 | tralala | L0rd: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 17:23.33 | tralala | L0rd: you are not attacked through ipv6 unless you've joined the ipv6 backbone. If you're attacked through ipv4 (which is most likely the case) disabling ipv6 won't stop the attack. |
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| 17:24.45 | Supaplex | there's too much ip6 address space to try certian attacks :P |
| 17:24.52 | killown | exist tool that format partition type ntfs? |
| 17:25.31 | icebit | hi all |
| 17:26.13 | pumpkin0 | killown: yes. it´s called windows. Don´t mess with NTFS in linux, it´s baaad luck. |
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| 17:26.40 | tralala | killown: /msg dpkg search |
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| 17:26.54 | Chihork | pumpkin0: it would seem that I've allready installed that package. Do you know if it installs the header files into /usr/include/X11/ ? Do you know where it installs the library files? |
| 17:27.13 | bkudria | can someone help me figure out why glxgears gives me only 3 fps with my geforce 6600gt card and the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 17:27.27 | Chihork | pupmkin0: never mind. I just figured out how to view where the files are installed. Thank you. |
| 17:27.59 | pumpkin0 | bkudria: run "glxinfo". does it use the drivers ? |
| 17:29.03 | bkudria | pumpkin0: yes: it says "direct rendering: Yes |
| 17:29.09 | bkudria | " |
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| 17:30.00 | rvgate | how do i restart my sound drivers, my sound went all sqeeky and cracking all the suddon |
| 17:30.36 | pumpkin0 | bkudria: post the whole output of glxinfo somewhere (not in here) |
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| 17:31.08 | pumpkin0 | rvgate: lsmod => search for the right modules => rmmod <modules>, modprobe <modules>. |
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| 17:31.48 | g333k | Hi Friends, I used to send music "my radio" using winamp in winbugs (shoutcast)... how can I do the same from Linux? |
| 17:32.29 | tictac | icecast/xmms-liveice |
| 17:32.57 | tictac | use those to send out whatever song your playing to the world. |
| 17:32.57 | bkudria | pumpkin0: ok, just a sec |
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| 17:33.22 | linux2 | ok i got it to wokr |
| 17:33.29 | linux2 | my compaq array controller works |
| 17:33.30 | linux2 | in linux |
| 17:33.38 | linux2 | but just not in debian for some unknown reason |
| 17:33.52 | tictac | then your not 'doin it right. |
| 17:34.21 | pumpkin0 | linux2: which kernel-modules did you use in the other linuxes ? |
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| 17:34.52 | linux2 | pumpkin0, not sure. it works fine in mandriva (yeah i know we all hate it) but in debian i just get a useless error |
| 17:35.11 | linux2 | pumpkin0, happens on any kernel-modules i have installed |
| 17:35.11 | L0rd | i want to install mod-security |
| 17:35.28 | L0rd | but debian has not mod-security packet for apache .. |
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| 17:35.40 | rxed | one of the dist-upgrades on testing has screwed up cupsd on my machine. I can't localhost:631. I can see cupsd running in PS, but can't open it trough the web browser. |
| 17:36.22 | pumpkin0 | linux2: which controller-chip is it ? |
| 17:36.35 | linux2 | compaq smart array controller (eisa |
| 17:36.48 | g333k | tictac, thanks... do you know something using amarok? |
| 17:37.07 | L0rd | all |
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| 17:37.21 | pumpkin0 | linux2: what´s the name of the chip used ? (have a look at "lspci -v") |
| 17:37.38 | linux2 | pumpkin0, lspci does not show anything cause it is an EISA card |
| 17:37.39 | rvgate | pumpkin0, device or resource busy |
| 17:37.51 | linux2 | pumpkin0, it is also a cpq4020 |
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| 17:38.24 | bkudria | pumpkin0: http://pastebin.ca/70673 |
| 17:38.55 | L0rd | alll |
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| 17:39.04 | L0rd | help me pls |
| 17:39.16 | L0rd | i need mod-security packet for apache . |
| 17:39.27 | elik | stew, your config file did help |
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| 17:40.55 | SlayerXP | L0rd: what's one of those, exactly? |
| 17:40.57 | pumpkin0 | bkudria: looks good. Are you sure glxgears really shows 3 fps ? |
| 17:41.18 | L0rd | SlayerXP: apache for a module it.. |
| 17:41.21 | elik | stew, now, just gotta figure out how to run ksynaptics under gnome to be able to change some options |
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| 17:41.45 | SlayerXP | L0rd: what does it do? |
| 17:42.02 | bkudria | pumpkin0: yes, i do glxgears -printfps and it shows (now) 3.112, 2.950, 2.968 |
| 17:42.16 | bkudria | pumpkin0: it floast around 3 |
| 17:42.20 | elik | stew, that's just weird as you didnt specify any device |
| 17:42.21 | bkudria | floats* |
| 17:42.41 | pumpkin0 | that´s 3-tousand-something fps ... |
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| 17:43.09 | Nin | hi everybody |
| 17:43.35 | bkudria | pumpkin0: no, it isn't...it's 3. all my games are slow: i get 2fps in quake |
| 17:43.47 | icebit | Nin, hi (-: |
| 17:43.55 | Nin | hi icebit |
| 17:44.27 | icebit | 2fps, yeah - no good, |
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| 17:45.10 | pumpkin0 | bkudria: do you have a special setup, like 2 screens ? |
| 17:45.34 | bkudria | pumpkin0: nope...nothing wierd...just my card and an lcd screen |
| 17:45.57 | icebit | pkudria: what the videcard you use? and what drivers for her? 2fps :) |
| 17:46.58 | bkudria | icebit: i have an nvidia geforce 600gt, w/ 128mb of memory, and i'm using the official nvidia drivers |
| 17:47.20 | bkudria | icebit: from the deb package, of course, and compiled for my kernel |
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| 17:49.37 | icebit | but, I don't know nvidia drivers in deb package, I use NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run |
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| 17:50.46 | bkudria | icebit: i did apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source and apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 17:50.47 | icebit | pkudria: apt-cache search nvidia |
| 17:50.55 | icebit | nvidia-cg-toolkit - NVIDIA Cg Toolkit installer |
| 17:50.55 | icebit | nvtv - tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux |
| 17:50.55 | icebit | nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver |
| 17:50.55 | icebit | nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files |
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| 17:51.32 | bkudria | icebit: i alreday have the drivers installed. already installed. and they say they are working, but they are not...but they are installed |
| 17:51.36 | icebit | yeah! |
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| 17:52.46 | icebit | bkudria: ok, |
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| 17:53.21 | icebit | bkudria, lsmod - view you module nvidia |
| 17:53.41 | bkudria | icebit: it's loaded |
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| 17:54.21 | ic3man05 | I need some help with debian etch, just upgraded with apt-get dist-upgrade and now my normal user fonts aren't displayed |
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| 17:56.07 | icebit | bkudria: I don't know, I use NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run from official site nvidia, and all works |
| 17:56.08 | Chihork | question: when using the CAPS-lock key, and typing in the terminal, my E is always lower case. This is not the case within X, or within anything else other than the terminal. Anybody know why, or how this got to be like this? |
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| 17:57.03 | Chihork | upon closer inspection, it would appear that c stays in lower case, as well. Shift-c and Shift-e give the upper-case letters. |
| 17:57.20 | marco13185 | when you dist-upgrade, are the entire packages downloaded or only updated files? |
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| 17:57.43 | icebit | bkudria: but, where you took a deb packege driver? interesting |
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| 17:58.21 | stoned | marco13185, anytime you install a package, update a package, upgrade a package, you alwys download a full new package |
| 17:58.35 | stoned | marco13185, you can't download individual files in a package |
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| 17:59.37 | icebit | maybe you confuse nvidia-cg-toolkit or nvidia-kernel-common packege with driver? |
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| 18:00.01 | icebit | bkudria: maybe you confuse nvidia-cg-toolkit or nvidia-kernel-common packege with driver? |
| 18:00.23 | bkudria | icebit: i installed the driver, seeing as how i have an nvidia kernle module loaded |
| 18:00.31 | Fackamato | hm |
| 18:00.34 | Fackamato | configuring my own kernel here |
| 18:00.34 | bkudria | icebit: don't worry, the driver is installed |
| 18:00.45 | Fackamato | however, (2.6.17), where is the ip_tables module?! |
| 18:00.45 | bkudria | icebit: specifically, from the nvidia-glx package |
| 18:00.46 | Fackamato | I can't find it |
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| 18:00.58 | icebit | how name of driver packege? |
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| 18:01.22 | bkudria | icebit: i just told you |
| 18:01.49 | icebit | I know |
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| 18:02.28 | Fackamato | just found it, nevermind |
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| 18:03.49 | Led_Zeppelin | if i su - user, how can I display xclock ? I keep getting this error. Error: Can't open display: |
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| 18:03.53 | Led_Zeppelin | any advice? |
| 18:04.03 | icebit | bkudria: try install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1.run driver, download him from nvidia site |
| 18:04.08 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: different users? |
| 18:04.21 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, yes, different users. su - user1 |
| 18:04.24 | Led_Zeppelin | xlcock |
| 18:04.26 | bkudria | icebit: no. |
| 18:04.28 | Led_Zeppelin | *xclock |
| 18:04.47 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: so - xauth doesn't allow it? |
| 18:04.57 | icebit | bkudria: I don't know nvidia driver in deb packege, where link to download this? give me link for this |
| 18:05.05 | linux2 | guess im stuck running mandriva |
| 18:05.09 | linux2 | since it works with my array controller |
| 18:05.11 | linux2 | :-( |
| 18:05.22 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, not sure how to use xauth. |
| 18:05.49 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, i just simple su - user, and trying to run x11 app. Do I need to export DISPLAY ? |
| 18:05.51 | bkudria | icebit: do you run debian? |
| 18:06.09 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: try sudo instead |
| 18:06.09 | icebit | bkudria: yes |
| 18:06.30 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, sudo is for root. Even su - root; xclock won't wory |
| 18:06.35 | icebit | but, apt-cache not search this |
| 18:06.53 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: or (as original user - that started x) export XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority |
| 18:07.24 | icebit | bkudria: debian sarge, stable release, so? |
| 18:07.26 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, huh? |
| 18:07.41 | bkudria | icebit: the nvidia driver is in the 'nvidia-glx' package |
| 18:08.14 | icebit | apt-cache search nvidia-glx, not about this :( |
| 18:08.33 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: or use sux |
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| 18:09.27 | Led_Zeppelin | cahoot, heh, what? |
| 18:09.44 | bkudria | icebit: i now have no idea what you are talkiing about, or what you are asking. sorry |
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| 18:10.36 | cahoot | Led_Zeppelin: apt-cache show sux |
| 18:10.43 | icebit | bkudria: ok, I watch a movie, and when you find solution of this problem, write to me, ok? |
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| 18:10.58 | infamy | Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) |
| 18:11.13 | infamy | am i just an idiot.. or is that error useless? |
| 18:11.54 | deadcat | i say both |
| 18:12.03 | bkudria | icebit: i thought i had the problem, not you |
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| 18:12.19 | bkudria | icebit: i really do not iunderstand you |
| 18:12.22 | rvgate | how do i upgrade from stable to unstable? |
| 18:12.28 | infamy | lol, i agree.. i have never done audio this way, normally it just works.. so what is the most common thing that cause that.. |
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| 18:13.28 | rhalff | scanner doesn't work ! |
| 18:13.55 | rhalff | scanner doesn't work! |
| 18:14.02 | icebit | bkudria: find solution for this problem, ask me, about you solution, ok? |
| 18:14.46 | icebit | bkudria: just me interesting |
| 18:14.48 | rhalff | did something change in the kernel, not supporting scanners directly anymore ? |
| 18:14.52 | bkudria | can someone help me figure out why glxgears gives me only 3 fps with my geforce 6600gt card and the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 18:14.55 | rhalff | I can't find a scanner module. |
| 18:14.59 | dn4 | how do I watch the world cup on my debian box if I only have an internet conncet? |
| 18:15.14 | cahoot | rhalff: if kernel 2.6 there is none |
| 18:15.27 | rhalff | cahoot, so how is the device created ? |
| 18:15.41 | cahoot | rhalff: libusb if usb |
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| 18:15.50 | icebit | bkudria: sorry, say me, ok? |
| 18:16.04 | rhalff | cahoot, hm ok. :) |
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| 18:16.52 | icebit | :) |
| 18:17.30 | icebit | icebit -> went see movie |
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| 18:19.42 | AlienX | anyone having issues connecting to http://ftp.debian.org |
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| 18:21.03 | eastwood | AlienX, yeah, dont use the main mirror though |
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| 18:21.16 | eastwood | use netselect-apt to get the fastest for you |
| 18:21.22 | AlienX | eastwood, thanks! |
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| 18:21.52 | AlienX | eastwood, looks like netselect-apt is not a command |
| 18:22.09 | eastwood | if you don't have it installed it isn't ofc |
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| 18:22.28 | AlienX | eastwood, ahh ok. |
| 18:22.51 | AlienX | the channel is rather quiet today |
| 18:23.28 | stoned | eastwood, my man |
| 18:23.29 | stoned | whats up |
| 18:23.40 | eastwood | hey stoned |
| 18:23.46 | eastwood | just got home from training |
| 18:23.49 | stoned | drunk now man |
| 18:23.51 | stoned | training? |
| 18:23.56 | stoned | I train friday nights |
| 18:24.05 | eastwood | yeah, i train on saturdays as well |
| 18:24.09 | stoned | actually its 100$ a month, train as much as you want |
| 18:24.12 | stoned | anytime, all day |
| 18:24.20 | eastwood | well i do to, but yesterday it was party here in town |
| 18:24.21 | stoned | open mat night on fridays though |
| 18:24.24 | stoned | you can sparr with anyone |
| 18:24.31 | eastwood | i pay ?25 |
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| 18:24.34 | eastwood | ?35 |
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| 18:24.54 | samuel | sup all |
| 18:24.54 | stoned | hi |
| 18:25.04 | linux2 | yay |
| 18:25.06 | linux2 | it works |
| 18:25.08 | samuel | anyone here familiar with xorg and intel 855? what do i need to get hardware accel enabled? |
| 18:25.13 | linux2 | on debian testing 2.4 kernel |
| 18:25.21 | linux2 | so i guess i will just run that on my server |
| 18:25.29 | linux2 | i mean i hate the 2.4 kernel |
| 18:25.33 | linux2 | but its better than mandriva |
| 18:26.01 | eastwood | sure it is |
| 18:26.14 | eastwood | but some hardware isn't supported in 2.4 |
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| 18:27.07 | elik | Anyone here can pretend being a mouse configuration expert here, plz tell me |
| 18:27.32 | stoned | well I can pretend I'm God, but that won't help you much |
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| 18:27.56 | elik | you can also pretend you are stoned, but that would be off topic :P |
| 18:28.08 | stoned | not at all really |
| 18:28.14 | stoned | I don't have to pretend |
| 18:28.21 | naxx | lol |
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| 18:28.40 | elik | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.49 | naxx | yes i can |
| 18:28.50 | stoned | !ask |
| 18:28.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:29.00 | elik | that sound better doesnt it stoned :P |
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| 18:29.04 | naxx | if i would practice configurating mouses a log |
| 18:29.05 | zamolxes | !repeat |
| 18:29.06 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:29.09 | naxx | xD |
| 18:29.12 | elik | lol |
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| 18:29.49 | naxx | i have about the same state as a user in here ;) |
| 18:29.59 | naxx | "god i am stoned" xD |
| 18:31.01 | zamolxes | or "stoned i am god" |
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| 18:31.20 | linux2 | eastwood, the comp is so old im not worried |
| 18:31.29 | linux2 | eastwood, its a dual p2 333mhz |
| 18:31.38 | linux2 | that just has raid drives in it to backup the other servers |
| 18:31.51 | eastwood | get a smp 2.4 kernel then |
| 18:31.59 | Tuborgn | my linux box just called me a fag. Is this normal? |
| 18:32.02 | eastwood | brb |
| 18:32.05 | linux2 | eastwood, ??? |
| 18:32.08 | linux2 | eastwood, ok |
| 18:32.33 | elik | Tuborgn, it sometimes happen |
| 18:32.40 | linux2 | does debian auto select and smp kernel? cause i am going to be installing on a bunch of other dual processor machines so will i have to go and find a smp kernel after |
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| 18:39.26 | Toman- | Hi, after my last apt-get upgrade, X reports "Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer". Any ideas? |
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| 18:41.34 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.57 | pumpkin0 | Toman-: did that upgrade switch from xfree to xorg ? |
| 18:42.25 | dimir | # help -me |
| 18:42.26 | dimir | -bash: help: -m: invalid option |
| 18:42.26 | dimir | debhelper: usage: help [-s] [pattern ...] |
| 18:42.29 | dimir | :'( |
| 18:42.50 | Toman- | pumpkin0: no, I've been using xorg all along |
| 18:42.52 | pumpkin0 | killown: ask in #mplayer. |
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| 18:43.47 | pumpkin0 | Toman-: so X does not start at all and the server quits with Error 104 ? |
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| 18:46.50 | dn4 | what is good for burning cdromS? |
| 18:47.01 | zamolxes | cdwriters! |
| 18:47.09 | dn4 | software? |
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| 18:47.17 | zamolxes | yes, that is useful too |
| 18:47.26 | dn4 | what type of software? |
| 18:47.38 | zamolxes | uhm, something along the lines of cdrecord / mkisofs |
| 18:47.48 | zamolxes | or k3b for the faint hearted |
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| 18:48.30 | pumpkin0 | dn4: xcdroast |
| 18:48.51 | dn4 | my heart is going quick |
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| 18:51.21 | pumpkin0 | quick one about acpi: how to i tell acpi to redetect batteries ? It switched from AC to batterie and linux didn´t see the change ... |
| 18:51.39 | Toman- | pumpkin0: yes, thats what happens. |
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| 18:52.44 | pumpkin0 | Toman-: can you upload the xorg.0.log somewhere ? |
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| 18:58.37 | Silent_al | hi guys , is there any chance to recover some files i accidently del usind rm -rf ~/ ? |
| 18:58.40 | Silent_al | :< |
| 18:58.50 | Silent_al | using* |
| 18:59.00 | blondie | Silent_al: probably not |
| 18:59.09 | Silent_al | afff.. |
| 18:59.09 | blondie | well, unless you recover from backup |
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| 18:59.16 | Gathond | Silent_al: short of backup's probably not really |
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| 18:59.53 | pumpkin0 | Silent_al: sleuthkit and several days of hard work |
| 19:00.20 | Silent_al | alright , thank u all |
| 19:02.31 | five0 | are any of you using windows2k at this very moment? (mind if i /msg you about it?) |
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| 19:05.19 | StevenR | how do I stop my system unloading the pcmcia modules on shutdown? it always hangs at the same point on shutdown |
| 19:05.56 | nvz | StevenR: do you have or use pcmcia? |
| 19:06.19 | StevenR | nvz: yes. it's a laptop, with a pcmcia NIC |
| 19:06.32 | StevenR | it works great, until shutdown |
| 19:06.38 | nvz | interesting. did it occur to you that, that has something to do with it? |
| 19:06.51 | StevenR | nvz: what? |
| 19:07.01 | nvz | perhaps the shutdown proceedure is in the wrong order and its trying to stop pcmcia before the network is down or such |
| 19:07.38 | nvz | stopping pcmcia is a good thing, the fact that its not working just indicates a possible bug or misconfiguration |
| 19:08.16 | StevenR | nvz: so how do i fix it? |
| 19:08.18 | nvz | doh, I just accidentally reverted my bacground image when I dropped my mouse |
| 19:08.38 | nvz | StevenR: I'd recommend trying to figure out what the problem is first. |
| 19:08.55 | StevenR | nvz: how? |
| 19:09.00 | nvz | I would try doing so by trying to manually stop the pcmcia and take notes on what does and does not happen |
| 19:09.20 | nvz | you cant investigate during shutdown very much, but while the machine is running you can |
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| 19:10.08 | nvz | I would see first if stopping it manually works.. if not, then I would try restarting it and try things like stopping network and manually unloading the nic/pcmcia modules then see if it would stop pcmcia |
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| 19:10.40 | StevenR | nvz: to stop it: /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop ? |
| 19:11.39 | nvz | StevenR: I believe so. I've never used PCMCIA on any OS for any reason.. but I am trying to give you some pointers.. I would also read the init.d script to see what its function is and maybe add some echo "now doing stuff" in there at different points so you can _see_ where it hangs |
| 19:12.21 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: and save everyhing first. sync would help too. |
| 19:12.24 | StevenR | nvz: it prints "Shutting down PCMCIA services: xircomremove_one(eth0)" and then simply hangs |
| 19:12.53 | StevenR | pumpkin0: there's not much to save :) |
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| 19:13.51 | bsims | the new cups shows job names on the LCD of my LaserJet4 how do I disable that "feature" |
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| 19:14.05 | nvz | yeah well I would try two main things one make the script more verbose by adding more echo comments.. and then trying to go through the motions of stopping your NIC and PCMCIA services manually once you figure out the proper order and incantation to do so you can reconfigure your scripts to do it properly |
| 19:14.16 | Nekomagesdesu | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7248 for anyone with an idea ^^ |
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| 19:14.31 | Nekomagesdesu | much easier then repeating the same thing over and over in here ^^ |
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| 19:15.26 | nvz | StevenR: if you just want to turn it off, remove the K*pcmcia link from /etc/rc0.d/ and /etc/rc6.d/ but I sense that may be a bad thing and leave your devices in a state of confusion |
| 19:15.32 | StevenR | nvz: i stopped the network first...it seems to be only the pcmcia services that cause problems |
| 19:16.06 | nvz | StevenR: right but the pcmcia services may be failing to halt because it cannot stop network or unload the nic or something of the sort |
| 19:16.41 | nvz | StevenR: for example you could rule that in/out by removing the nic, starting pcmcia, then trying to stop it again.. you may find that it starts and stopps fine when you arent using the nic |
| 19:17.00 | nvz | if so you have to figure out why the nic isnt cleanly unloading |
| 19:17.16 | pumpkin0 | Nekomagesdesu: are all drives and controllers present unter /proc ? |
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| 19:20.07 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, yes |
| 19:20.29 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, shows the hdd, the channels and the drivers |
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| 19:20.58 | pumpkin0 | have you tried to mount /dev/ide/host4/bus0/target1/lun0/p1 ? |
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| 19:22.25 | poli | I just revived an old UPS with serial monitoring and I am trying to choose between one of the many available packages of UPS monitoring software... Anyone I should try first? |
| 19:22.50 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, no |
| 19:22.56 | Nekomagesdesu | will try it now ^^ |
| 19:22.59 | StevenR | nvz: i can start and stop the pcmcia subsystem just fine when the card is not inserted, i can insert and remove the card and it's fine...the only thing i can't do is stop the subsystem when the card is in. |
| 19:23.32 | Nekomagesdesu | pumpkin0, doesn't work either ^^ |
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| 19:25.16 | StevenR | nvz: i've had problems under other systems too...windows and *nsd all crash when i try to use pcmcia. slackware did similarly to debian |
| 19:28.30 | abrotman | asg: wtf was he talking about? |
| 19:28.52 | stoned | nvz, abrotman, hi |
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| 19:29.28 | abrotman | stoned: heyt |
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| 19:29.57 | jifix | help did anyone know a webpage about debian sarge on ibm laptop R51 |
| 19:29.58 | jifix | ? |
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| 19:30.10 | pumpkin0 | jifix: thinkwiki ? |
| 19:30.10 | jifix | with ubuntu it is ok |
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| 19:30.23 | jifix | thinwiki |
| 19:30.25 | stoned | abrotman, do you know of a minimal type iconbox/panel thingy for X where I can specify which monitor to put it on in a dual head system |
| 19:30.25 | jifix | ? |
| 19:30.31 | amphi | jifix: linux-laptop.net must have something |
| 19:30.41 | amphi | jifix: thinkwiki.org IIRC |
| 19:30.42 | jifix | where is thikwiki |
| 19:30.44 | stoned | I tried pypanel and perlpanel and both give me erros |
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| 19:30.46 | stoned | they just wont' run |
| 19:30.53 | abrotman | stoned: say what? |
| 19:30.59 | pumpkin0 | jifix: http://www.thinkwiki.org |
| 19:31.00 | stoned | well, guess what |
| 19:31.13 | zamolxes | the usual suspects would be www.linux-laptop.net/ tuxmobil.org/ |
| 19:31.13 | stoned | abrotman, that laptop runs sid now! no more crapuntu |
| 19:31.22 | dm | Hello. Can anyone tell me what the "A" in aptitude's line "i A asterisk-config ..." stands for? |
| 19:31.35 | abrotman | stoned: good job |
| 19:31.50 | stoned | abrotman, and I am trying to avoid gnome-panel and kicker, I just need to run ssh -X panelsomething to get this panel running here on my dekstop |
| 19:31.59 | stoned | this way, I can just use that to launcyh apps on the laptop |
| 19:32.04 | abrotman | nfc |
| 19:32.07 | stoned | instead of typing in program names thtough console |
| 19:32.09 | stoned | nfc ok |
| 19:32.26 | nvz | stoned: hello |
| 19:32.29 | stoned | hi |
| 19:32.31 | stoned | what is nfc? |
| 19:33.06 | stoned | nm, he probably want talking to me |
| 19:33.06 | nvz | StevenR: the trick is can you somehow stop the network or unload the nics modules and then get pcmcia to stop? |
| 19:34.29 | nvz | StevenR: we can script whatever you need to do to get it unloaded all you got to do is figure out whats hanging it up. it would help as I said to see what the init script does, and add comments to see where it hangs. if it hangs on something like rmmod nic_module then the problem is the kernel module not unloading. and you need to figure out then why it wont unload |
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| 19:35.05 | evilgeek | hm. what drivers does one use for an NCP51 integrated videocard, ethernet controller, and so forth? |
| 19:35.33 | evilgeek | (googling for 'ncp51 linux' reveals little.) |
| 19:35.42 | luddite | i dual booted, and unfortunately, i lost my linux partition, when ahem, i installed a different os... how do i get my linux bootable again? |
| 19:36.05 | pumpkin0 | evilgeek: find the name of the chips (lspci -v) and search again. |
| 19:36.37 | pumpkin0 | luddite: install a working bootmanager ... like grub via knoppix |
| 19:36.42 | luddite | ok |
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| 19:36.52 | luddite | danka |
| 19:36.57 | evilgeek | oh, neat. |
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| 19:40.49 | StevenR | nvz: currently testing with lots of echos |
| 19:42.32 | RvGaTe | today is the day im going to switch to unstable :D only to be able to play 1 single game... |
| 19:43.14 | Ex-Cyber | RvGaTe: what are you running now? |
| 19:43.19 | RvGaTe | stable |
| 19:43.34 | RvGaTe | currently in windows tho |
| 19:43.57 | Ex-Cyber | RvGaTe: if whatever you want isn't in testing I strongly suggest checking the status page / bug db to see what's blocking it before you do a dist-upgrade |
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| 19:44.46 | Ex-Cyber | RvGaTe: and I somewhat less strongly suggest that you reconsider moving to unstable just to run 1 program and rather see if you can self-compile/backport it |
| 19:44.58 | RvGaTe | Ex-Cyber: i dont really mind... i use windows on work and home for gaming, just have a dual boot with debian, to see how it is... |
| 19:44.59 | five0 | are any of you guys using win2k atm? |
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| 19:45.08 | abrotman | five0: wrong channel ? |
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| 19:47.16 | Chihork | hi. I'm having a hell of a time getting antialiased fonts working with Fluxbox (Debian Etch). Wondering if there's any help out there. |
| 19:48.08 | Ex-Cyber | RvGaTe: well, if you're just playing around with it I guess it's not that crucial... I just wanted to make sure you understood that a stable->unstable upgrade should (in general) be carefully considered |
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| 19:51.12 | nvz | wow, these are the only updates I've had pending for a while.. doesnt even seem worth upgrading :P libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libmysqlclient12 libtiff4 lynx mysql-common, I dont even know why I have these things in the first place much less why I would upgrade |
| 19:51.16 | SmartUnix | hi |
| 19:51.32 | gentgeen__ | I seem to have lost my Vertual Terminals (CTRL-ALT-F#)... can anyone point me to the right place to start troubleshooting? |
| 19:51.41 | SmartUnix | i want ask please can i found tool for Linux help me to write boot sector in the first sector of floppy ? |
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| 19:53.04 | Coweater | SmartUnix: write what to it? |
| 19:53.11 | SmartUnix | a boot sector |
| 19:53.15 | icebit | how play windows media format in debian? |
| 19:53.25 | abrotman | !tell icebit about w32codecs |
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| 19:53.31 | Coweater | you write to the boot sector, yes. |
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| 19:54.10 | SmartUnix | i mean the boot strap file :) |
| 19:54.19 | SmartUnix | oh , sorry for my bad English |
| 19:54.24 | nvz | gentgeen__: lost them? heh. hold the _LEFT_ ctrl and alt keys and press F1 and tell me what happens |
| 19:54.41 | icebit | abortman: it |
| 19:54.44 | abrotman | SmartUnix: what is your native language? |
| 19:54.51 | gentgeen__ | nvz, absolutly nothing... no longer switches |
| 19:54.51 | SmartUnix | Arabic |
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| 19:54.59 | abrotman | stoned: do you know that? |
| 19:55.09 | stoned | somewhat |
| 19:55.15 | icebit | abortman: it's commercial codecs? |
| 19:55.30 | abrotman | icebit: are you asking if Windows Media Player is proprietary? |
| 19:55.46 | stoned | SmartUnix, salaam, kyfa haluk. My arabic is very poor, but I can try, what do you need? |
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| 19:56.11 | nvz | gentgeen__: is it possible you've got a stuck key? perhaps a modifier key |
| 19:56.15 | SmartUnix | :) |
| 19:57.03 | gentgeen__ | I don't think so :-) But gives me a thought, I'll try logging in as a different users |
| 19:57.10 | SmartUnix | i need a programme help me to write boot strap in first sector of floppy :) |
| 19:57.25 | icebit | abrotman: where I can download this packege of codecs? |
| 19:57.33 | abrotman | icebit: that factoid tells you |
| 19:57.41 | abrotman | SmartUnix: dd ? |
| 19:57.43 | cahoot | SmartUnix: dd maybe |
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| 19:57.53 | SmartUnix | i tried it but it's don't work fine :( |
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| 19:59.09 | nvz | gentgeen__: next would be to run in an xterm or other X-terminal-emulator the program xev, and press each of the left control, then the left alt and f1 keys (one at a time holding them and observing output in the terminal) and make sure that they report as Control_L Alt_L and F1 respectivly |
| 19:59.57 | icebit | abrotman: do you use anyone codecs in debian, for play wmv files? |
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| 20:00.01 | abrotman | i do |
| 20:00.08 | gentgeen__ | nvz, just tried another user (using gdmflexiserver)... could not do anything either... not even back to the other X |
| 20:00.19 | nvz | icebit: same thing, w32codecs, and its _not_ in debian for lisc. reasons |
| 20:00.23 | fhffhqvb | think i should use thermal grease on a socket 370 p3-550? |
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| 20:00.38 | pumpkin0 | fhffhqvb: yes |
| 20:00.45 | abrotman | why? |
| 20:00.46 | Coweater | always use thermal grease/pad |
| 20:00.49 | fhffhqvb | pumpkin0: it's not even getting warm |
| 20:01.01 | kuru- | I'm having a curious problem that some of the folks on #apache are blaming on Debian? I have apache2/php4 (stable here).. and when I try to load the page: http://servername/ it tries to download the php file |
| 20:01.02 | abrotman | it's just a PIII |
| 20:01.07 | nvz | gentgeen__: lets focus more on the underlying problem instead of the obvious fact that its not working, please |
| 20:01.08 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: ask #hardware ? |
| 20:01.12 | pumpkin0 | fhffhqvb: it will if you push it hard. |
| 20:01.13 | kuru- | however, when I go to http://servername/index.php (or any other file) it loads just fine. |
| 20:01.16 | kuru- | any ideas? |
| 20:01.21 | fhffhqvb | it's 10 degrees celcius cooler than a p2-400 |
| 20:01.33 | fhffhqvb | at the moment: 33C cpu temp with a roomtemp of 26C. |
| 20:01.35 | gentgeen__ | nvz, xev results looked correct |
| 20:01.54 | Coweater | according to what sensor? it's probably not transfering heat to the heatsink properly without some agent |
| 20:01.57 | nvz | gentgeen__: what wm are you using? |
| 20:02.06 | gentgeen__ | blackbox |
| 20:02.08 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: if it makes you feel better .. my laptop is like 49C :) |
| 20:02.11 | fhffhqvb | Coweater: there's one on the cpu, isn't there |
| 20:02.26 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: so is another pc with a p2-300 |
| 20:02.28 | gentgeen__ | the other user was using XCFE4 |
| 20:02.46 | StevenR | nvz: still there? I've found some more stuff out |
| 20:03.04 | fhffhqvb | pumpkin0: i have a tube of that ceramic coolermaster crap. |
| 20:03.09 | nvz | gentgeen__: hmm well I guess we are ruling out that the keyboard is broken, keys are stuck, keycodes are being reported improperly or that something else is catching the keystrokes i.e. wm keybindings.. |
| 20:03.34 | gentgeen__ | I am running bbkeys... will check that cofig |
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| 20:03.54 | nvz | gentgeen__: you do realize you have to use the left ctrl and alt exclusivly on some systems to switch.. but you could always try the right ones as well. |
| 20:04.11 | gentgeen__ | have tried both L and R |
| 20:04.22 | kuru- | no interest? :( |
| 20:04.25 | nvz | gentgeen__: try killing it ffs, to rule it out for now, and if that doesnt help /etc/init.d/gdm stop and get back to the console and make sure you can switch there |
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| 20:04.49 | StevenR | nvz: if you read the stop function in init.d/pcmcia, it freezes after unloading the ds module. |
| 20:05.10 | abrotman | kuru-: do the logs help? don't forget to clear your browser cache and restart it |
| 20:05.20 | gentgeen__ | nvz, " try killing it ffs" what is ffs? |
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| 20:05.26 | nvz | StevenR: what is the ds module and what is it trying to do next? |
| 20:05.39 | nvz | gentgeen__: for [fine|fucks] sake |
| 20:05.58 | gentgeen__ | OK |
| 20:06.29 | nvz | gentgeen__: I was going to suggest chvt, but it wont work from X because it cant get a descriptor for the console |
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| 20:07.18 | kuru- | abrotman: no, not a cache problem. |
| 20:07.32 | abrotman | kuru-: are you 100% sure .. many people say that |
| 20:07.42 | nvz | gentgeen__: you can check your process list and verify that getty or such is running on your ttys to know if they still exist.. but even if they didnt you should still be able to press ctrl+alt+f1 and get at least a blank screen I would think.. so something is catching or misinterpreting those keystrokes |
| 20:08.08 | gentgeen__ | killing gdm... be back |
| 20:08.16 | nvz | gentgeen__: you need to stop anything that could be doing that one at a time until it starts working again. start with hotkey daemons, then loose gdm if nessicary |
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| 20:08.38 | kuru- | abrotman: well, I am using FireFox, I dropped it and used Safar and Opera.. they all do the same thing. |
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| 20:08.50 | abrotman | kuru-: anything in the logs? |
| 20:08.53 | kuru- | abrotman: so, I can say, it's definitely not a cache problem that is under my control ;) |
| 20:08.57 | kuru- | no.. nothing special in the logs |
| 20:09.03 | abrotman | kuru-: i blame OSX :) |
| 20:09.19 | kuru- | abrotman: well, the server is on a debian box ;) |
| 20:09.31 | kuru- | seriously, it's really really strange |
| 20:09.34 | abrotman | kuru-: is it publicly acessible? |
| 20:09.40 | kuru- | I can't figure out anything.. everything looks right. |
| 20:10.19 | kuru- | abrotman: umm.. yeah |
| 20:10.29 | abrotman | kuru-: msg me the URL/IP |
| 20:10.33 | StevenR | nvz: im not sure what ds is...apart from it being a kernel module...next it tries to rmmod $PCIC || rmmod yenta_socket |
| 20:10.46 | abrotman | kuru-: and warn me if i'll be shocked :) |
| 20:10.46 | SerajewelKS | is it possible through some bizarre set of steps to install php4 and php5 modules for apache2 on debian? currently php5 conflicts with php4, but i need both installed in this environment. or, is there some sort of version directive i can use in .htaccess to make php5 behave like 4? |
| 20:10.57 | kuru- | abrotman: well, it's not a pr0n site ;) |
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| 20:11.14 | abrotman | kuru-: eh . you won't be able to msg me .. /join #kuru |
| 20:11.20 | nvz | StevenR: can you determine which if any of these such modules are unloaded, or if they are even loaded in the first place? |
| 20:11.51 | nvz | StevenR: do modinfo ds to get more information btw |
| 20:11.58 | abrotman | pumpkin0: i mean .. unless you're going to help :) |
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| 20:12.16 | nvz | StevenR: lsmod to make sure ds is even loaded, and that it gets unloaded or not. |
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| 20:12.30 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: already read a bit about it ... but i have no idea right now. |
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| 20:12.40 | abrotman | pumpkin0: nothing wrong .. cache issue apparently :) |
| 20:12.44 | StevenR | nvz: errm...it gets unloaded..but pcmcia crashes on shutdown |
| 20:12.55 | gentgeen__ | has to be something with X or GDM.... While in console I could switch to any of the VTs |
| 20:12.56 | StevenR | so i can't check if it gets unloaded with the card in |
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| 20:13.30 | nvz | StevenR: you should be able to test it with /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop without having to shutdown. |
| 20:13.31 | gentgeen__ | from console, did a 'startx' and the same problem persists |
| 20:13.34 | StevenR | nvz: lsmod shows it as loaded |
| 20:13.46 | StevenR | nvz: no. i cannot stop pcmcia with the nic in |
| 20:13.49 | StevenR | it hangs |
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| 20:15.13 | b1rken | Any idea why i cant write the "@" on my debian box running fluxbox? |
| 20:15.30 | abrotman | wrong keymap ? |
| 20:15.40 | dippo | anyone know what "hot remove failed for /dev/hdd1: Invalid Argument" means when I try to do mdadm /dev/md0 -r /dev/hdd1? |
| 20:15.40 | abrotman | the '2' key is broken ? |
| 20:15.51 | b1rken | i have the norwegian keymap, and everything else work like is should. The 2 key is not broken |
| 20:16.12 | StevenR | nvz: without the card in, it does unload the modules, but it doesn't unload the modules loaded for the nic |
| 20:16.32 | sng | b1rken: pkg_add sense-of-humour. |
| 20:16.44 | nvz | StevenR: well that seems to be the problem. the nic is still busy when pcmcia tries to stop. |
| 20:16.47 | b1rken | how can i set the keymap to norwegian, i did it when i installed debian, but it might have shanges |
| 20:16.49 | abrotman | sng: not solaris! |
| 20:17.05 | sng | abrotman: OpenBSD!!! |
| 20:17.13 | abrotman | oh yeah |
| 20:17.17 | StevenR | nvz: how do i make it kill/bring down eth0 then? |
| 20:17.28 | sng | :) |
| 20:17.37 | nvz | StevenR: this is why I said to do it manually. try stopping network manually bringing down interfaces or /etc/init.d/networking stop and remove nic modules manually, then see if you can unload pcmcia modules or /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop |
| 20:17.42 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: 1. "/etc/init.d/networking stop" |
| 20:18.09 | nvz | StevenR: the idea is to figure out what makes pcmcia stop function happy while the nic is inserted then we can script that process into your init scripts |
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| 20:18.46 | sng | abrotman: The One True OS. |
| 20:18.58 | wrkilu | I have Postfix + Sasl with PAM which work for many domains so ... to add new mailbox I write in file "virtual" e.g. "foo@x.pl bar", then..."postmap virtual" and "postfix reload". "bar" account exist in system of course. Unfortunatelly i can't connect from some email client :(. In maillog i get "1 authentication failure" |
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| 20:19.03 | abrotman | sng: DOS ? |
| 20:19.21 | sng | abrotman: DOS makes bay Jesus cry. |
| 20:19.32 | abrotman | sng: damn hippie |
| 20:19.34 | sng | And baby Jesus. |
| 20:19.43 | sng | abrotman: Not me! |
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| 20:19.50 | wrkilu | when i connect to mailbox i type password of "bar" |
| 20:19.56 | abrotman | sng: not you .. Bay Jesus |
| 20:19.57 | wrkilu | for "bar" |
| 20:20.09 | sng | Oh yeah. He is. |
| 20:20.20 | yassine | arg vs mex (1 : 1 ) |
| 20:20.36 | abrotman | yassine: #worldcup |
| 20:20.55 | StevenR | nvz: i think there's something screwed in my init scripts anyway...it's complaining about bringing up eth0...but there's no card in this bootup |
| 20:21.23 | yassine | :) |
| 20:22.43 | f0urtyfive | lol |
| 20:22.48 | StevenR | nvz: pumpkin0 i did networking stop, but eth0 is still listed under ifconfig |
| 20:22.49 | f0urtyfive | anyone think something is going wrong here? |
| 20:22.49 | f0urtyfive | top - 20:35:46 up 242 days, 17:06, 0 users, load average: 896.51, 378.50, 740 |
| 20:22.49 | f0urtyfive | Tasks: 6052 total, 5 running, 6011 sleeping, 0 stopped, 35 zombie |
| 20:23.21 | abrotman | looks fine to me |
| 20:23.24 | f0urtyfive | lol |
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| 20:23.49 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: have you messed with /etc/networking/interfaces latly ? |
| 20:23.55 | StevenR | pumpkin0: never |
| 20:24.04 | StevenR | pumpkin0: i only installed it today |
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| 20:24.07 | gentgeen__ | looking at 'top -u root' I see 4 getty processes running... I normally have F1-F5 set for VTs |
| 20:24.11 | gentgeen__ | could that be a problem? |
| 20:24.24 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: is there a eth0 in that file ? |
| 20:24.49 | usn_work | hi folx |
| 20:24.52 | Sivik | what command do you use to rip a cd to an iso? |
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| 20:25.01 | pumpkin0 | Sivik: dd |
| 20:25.07 | StevenR | pumpkin0: yes... auto etho \n iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 20:25.30 | StevenR | pumpkin0: it appears after i insert the nic, but i can't bring it down |
| 20:25.39 | marco13185 | is xen similar to vmware in that I can still use my current set up and that VMs start in windows? |
| 20:25.54 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: what does "/etc/init.d/networking stop" output ? |
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| 20:26.14 | abrotman | PARTY! |
| 20:26.21 | StevenR | pumpkin0: Deconfiguring network interfaces...done. |
| 20:26.27 | Sivik | pumpkin0, what would an example of a line look? |
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| 20:26.54 | StevenR | pumpkin0: and ifconfig still shows eth0 as up, but without an IP or mask and stuff |
| 20:26.59 | nvz | marco13185: xen is much different to vmware, you should look at their respective websites and read a little.. you will learn more there then asking about them in a debian channel |
| 20:27.15 | kanzure | dpkg, tell about unmet dependencies |
| 20:27.32 | pumpkin0 | Sivik: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/image.iso (maybe you have to change hdc to something else, it depends on your PC) |
| 20:27.37 | Sivik | ok |
| 20:27.47 | Sivik | just making sure i didn't have to add something speical to create an iso |
| 20:27.49 | kanzure | hm... apt-get is telling me to run apt-get -f install, but that gives errors too |
| 20:28.01 | Sivik | kanzure, what kind of erros |
| 20:28.06 | Sivik | pastebin them |
| 20:28.42 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: that´s OK. now remove the nic´s modules BEFORE you bring dow the PCMCIA-slot. |
| 20:28.49 | kanzure | Sivik, nah, it's short: firstly something like "dpkg: error processing <x11-common> ... trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin, which is also in package xserver-mach32" |
| 20:29.12 | pumpkin0 | kanzure: are you just updateing from xfree to xorg ? |
| 20:29.41 | kanzure | pumpkin0: nope, I was just trying to apt-get an mp3 streaming server, and all of the suddent APT wanted to delete my X installations and so on |
| 20:29.46 | StevenR | pumpkin0: can't, modules are in use |
| 20:29.48 | kanzure | * sudden |
| 20:29.55 | abrotman | kanzure: purge xserver-mach32 |
| 20:30.24 | kanzure | abrotman, haven't you helped me out before ? ;) /me tries |
| 20:30.37 | kanzure | abrotman: purge: command not found |
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| 20:30.45 | abrotman | kanzure: i've helped lots of people .. your nick looks familiar |
| 20:30.54 | abrotman | kanzure: dpkg -P xserver-mach32 |
| 20:31.05 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: does lsmod say which modules use your nic modules ? |
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| 20:32.10 | StevenR | pumpkin0: i dont understnad |
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| 20:33.42 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: do a "lsmod" and post it in a pastebin ... |
| 20:33.46 | abrotman | pumpkin0: ethtool does |
| 20:34.39 | abrotman | ethtool -i <device> |
| 20:34.41 | gentgeen__ | I just noticed that I had two "XkbLayout" options in my xorg.conf (one for qwerty one for us)... is this normail |
| 20:35.01 | StevenR | pumpkin0: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sR9caX94.html |
| 20:35.14 | vronsky | do you guys think the sec-team does a pretty good job of backporting fixes to the 2.6 stable kernel or is it more prudent to just run a kernel.org kernel? |
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| 20:35.41 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: he has a wired problem: during shutdown his PCMCIA-modules get unloaded while the PCMCIA-nic is still in use => crash. |
| 20:35.59 | bsims | Am I having an attack of the dumb arse or has usb dissapeared as a printer option in cups |
| 20:36.17 | abrotman | pumpkin0: he can add a pre-down script in the interfaces |
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| 20:37.13 | tiagosab | Hi! I'm a little off-topic, but it's my debian box ;-) I have apache running with three virtual hosts by servername... |
| 20:37.20 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: but he cannot unload the nic-modules for some other reason. "/etc/init.d/networking stop" does not help. |
| 20:37.49 | StevenR | pumpkin0: pulling out the nic does bring the interface down though, properly |
| 20:37.52 | abrotman | that's a bit vague :) |
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| 20:38.09 | vronsky | well... what do you guys do? everybody type /exec -out uname -a , right now! |
| 20:38.17 | tiagosab | But now my isp's blocking port 80. If I use web redirection from no-ip, I can't use the servername in apache conf, |
| 20:38.36 | tiagosab | because the page is loaded with the ip, and not the hostname. |
| 20:38.39 | tiagosab | Any idea? |
| 20:38.41 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: but the module is xircom-something, right ? |
| 20:38.43 | abrotman | vronsky: that's your call .. check the last kernel security update |
| 20:38.54 | kanzure | abrotman: after the purge, was there antoher step? |
| 20:38.56 | StevenR | pumpkin0: inserting the nic causes several modules to be loaded |
| 20:39.02 | kanzure | * another |
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| 20:39.14 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: remove all, and try any possible order. |
| 20:39.29 | robhu | I'm using Debian testing with a 2.6.16 kernel from apt but I can't find the ide-scsi or ide-cd modules... do I need to add them with apt? |
| 20:39.35 | StevenR | pumpkin0: errm...what do you mean exactly? |
| 20:40.38 | robhu | Do I need to compile my own modules to get them? |
| 20:40.51 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: you have to unload all nic-related modules before unloading the pcmcia-stuff. you can do that in a pre-down script (or hack it into the /etC/init.d/pcmcia-script). But you need to know which modules to remove |
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| 20:41.26 | pumpkin0 | robhu: where did you get the kernel from and have you tried modprobing them |
| 20:42.16 | robhu | pumpkin0: The kernel is the 2.6.16-1-something kernel from apt, so it's a debian made one. I can't modprobe them as neither modules exist. I have them for 2.6.15 (which I compiled from source). |
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| 20:42.46 | bsims | Ok lpinfo says I don't have usb added as a backend how do add it |
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| 20:43.13 | robhu | cdrecording on linux is a nightmare |
| 20:43.27 | beardy | No. |
| 20:43.33 | StevenR | pumpkin0: it won't unload xircom_tulip_cb or crc32 |
| 20:44.09 | pumpkin0 | robhu: did you see the package "cdrom-core-modules-2.6.16" ? |
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| 20:44.37 | robhu | pumpkin0: No, thanyou! I did spend ages looking using apt-cache but I wasn't sure what to search for. Thankyou :-) |
| 20:44.49 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: crc32 is not that bad, but why does it not unload the other one ... ? |
| 20:45.05 | StevenR | pumpkin0: cos the interface is still up |
| 20:45.17 | bsims | I am running udev so /dev/usb/lp0 doesn't exist yet will it add it as a backend if I hookup one? |
| 20:45.27 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: "Ifconfig eth0 down" |
| 20:45.34 | abrotman | bsims: is usblp loaded ? |
| 20:45.48 | beardy | robhu: You don't need to use SCSI emulation anymore, do you? NOt since 2.6 |
| 20:45.53 | StevenR | pumpkin0: nope, it's still up |
| 20:46.05 | gentgeen__ | nvz, commenting out the Option "XkbLayout" "qwerty" line in xorg.conf did the trick |
| 20:46.16 | gentgeen__ | thanks for pointing me in the right direction |
| 20:46.19 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: you should have a word with the driver maintainer ... |
| 20:46.26 | bsims | abrotman: hrm dunno how to check? |
| 20:46.37 | pumpkin0 | beardy: no, but ide-cdrom is needed ... |
| 20:46.38 | StevenR | pumpkin0: this seems to be the problem, the interface does not come down, so it doesn't stop the hardware, so it crashes horribly |
| 20:46.48 | abrotman | bsims: lsmod ? |
| 20:46.50 | bsims | abrotman: lsmod says no |
| 20:46.54 | abrotman | try loading it |
| 20:47.04 | abrotman | bsims: then try lsusb to see if your printer is there |
| 20:47.11 | beardy | pumpkin0: Why isn't that module available and autoloaded then? |
| 20:47.33 | robhu | pumpkin0: That package is only in unstable, and isn't available for my architecture (686) - only funky archs and amd64 :-( |
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| 20:47.54 | crn | tiagosab, in my config files ServerName is set to the local name of the server not the virtural host name |
| 20:48.19 | pumpkin0 | robhu: do a find -iname "*ide-cdrom*" in /lib/modules/<your-kernel> |
| 20:48.36 | bsims | abrotman: where is it at under modconf? |
| 20:48.37 | pumpkin0 | beardy: depends on the arch ... |
| 20:48.55 | beardy | pumpkin0: WHich arch are we talking about now? |
| 20:48.58 | StevenR | pumpkin0: so what's my course of action? |
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| 20:49.01 | robhu | pumpkin0: Yeah, I've done that - there are no ide-cd* or ide-scsi kernel modules in there. |
| 20:49.20 | robhu | pumpkin0: So I can only assume it doesnt come as a default anymore |
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| 20:49.39 | abrotman | bsims: eh .. no idea .. i don't own a printer |
| 20:49.44 | abrotman | bsims: if you want me to look i can |
| 20:49.50 | bsims | Ah found it never mind |
| 20:49.52 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: ask the driver maintainer why his module is not working as expected. |
| 20:50.08 | pumpkin0 | robhu: are you sure the thing is not compiled in ? |
| 20:50.10 | StevenR | pumpkin0: how do i find out who the driver maintainer is? |
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| 20:50.20 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: modinfo |
| 20:50.21 | robhu | pumpkin0: How can I tell? |
| 20:50.28 | beardy | robhu: What architecture are you running? |
| 20:50.40 | robhu | beardy: 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 20:50.45 | pumpkin0 | robhu: does cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc work ? |
| 20:50.49 | five0 | i've created a smb password for a user. when connecting to the samba share from windows, do i use the same password? |
| 20:50.52 | bsims | abrotman: now it's loaded and I restarted cups but I still don't see usb any ideas on where else to look? |
| 20:50.53 | five0 | or is there some encryption going on, as i can't seem to do so |
| 20:51.00 | abrotman | bsims: lsusb .. see your printer? |
| 20:51.13 | beardy | pumpkin0: Are you saying it's not available for i386? |
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| 20:51.25 | bsims | I'll give it a retry when I am more sober thanks for the help |
| 20:51.31 | abrotman | sober? |
| 20:51.34 | mne | hi, how do I use the moderated debian newsgroup ? I got a mail that one has to be subscribed to a special mailinglist to post messages to the newsgroup. So I subscribed, but I still can't post to the newsgroup. any hints ? |
| 20:51.37 | abrotman | someone was drunk in here? |
| 20:51.37 | pumpkin0 | beardy: i say it´s usually compiled in for PC (i386 - i686) |
| 20:51.58 | abrotman | mne: what newsgroup .. what mailing list? |
| 20:52.09 | beardy | pumpkin0: If he is running a stock kernel, it should be there then. |
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| 20:52.31 | StevenR | nvz: pumpkin0 thanks alot for all your help. I'll disable the unloading for now, and contact the maintainer... thanks again :) |
| 20:52.33 | kanzure | abrotman: yeah, I keep having to purge packages and this is a very tedious process... any other ideas? |
| 20:52.42 | pumpkin0 | beardy: yes. But since he asked about it i guessed he was on amd64 or something ... |
| 20:52.51 | mne | abrotman, the official debian newsgroup linux.debian.user, with the auth. mailinglist linux-gate@lists.bofh.it |
| 20:52.52 | beardy | pumpkin0: Ok. |
| 20:53.15 | abrotman | mne: i wasn't aware debian had an official newsgroup |
| 20:53.34 | robhu | Should I post to the mailing list? |
| 20:53.46 | mne | abrotman, hmm, at least it seems to be the "most" official newsgroup ;) |
| 20:54.19 | beardy | pumpkin0: Is this ide-cd thing needed for all activitiex using an IDE cdr/rw, or only the writing functions? |
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| 20:54.35 | christor | Hello |
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| 20:55.02 | pumpkin0 | beardy: only stuff like writing, blanking RW´s,... |
| 20:55.22 | robhu | pumpkin0: I can't get it to write a CD using the ATAPI dev :/ |
| 20:55.28 | num00 | does anyone know if there is a irc-channel related to bluez? |
| 20:55.33 | robhu | pumpkin0: It's like it doesnt see the CD drive at all |
| 20:55.38 | beardy | robhu: Exactly with what, and how, are you trying? |
| 20:55.52 | abrotman | mne: what question are you trying to get answered? |
| 20:56.04 | pumpkin0 | robhu: can you read CDs ? |
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| 20:56.29 | num00 | has anyone got an idea where this error-message from hcid bluetooth could be caused from? hcid[10446]: Can't write inquiry mode for hci0: Input/output error (5) |
| 20:56.46 | mne | abrotman, how I can post to the newsgroup with my news reader. It says that I've to be registered to the mentioned mailinglist. So I did and it still does not work. |
| 20:56.56 | robhu | beardy: cdrecord -dao dev=ATA:0,0,0 dist-1.1.4-basic/1.1.4-basic.iso tries to write to hda but the cdwriter is hdc but any other ATA values result in No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/hd*'. Cannot open SCSI driver |
| 20:56.58 | beardy | num00: what is hci0? |
| 20:57.09 | num00 | beardy it is the bluetooth device |
| 20:57.11 | abrotman | mne: i have no idea .. i meant .. what question did you want to ask the newsgroup |
| 20:57.42 | pumpkin0 | robhu: cdrecord -dao dev=/dev/hdc |
| 20:58.12 | robhu | pumpkin0: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/cdrom'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 20:58.13 | blondie | robhu: try dev=/dev/hdc |
| 20:58.22 | robhu | blondie: Thanks :P |
| 20:58.26 | mne | abrotman, oooh ;) still the multiuser directory indexing question we talked about yesterday (or the day before). remember ? :) |
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| 20:58.40 | friedl | wlan wlan, need help with wlan card |
| 20:58.51 | Sivik | friedl, what kind? |
| 20:58.54 | Termy | Hello, Im trying to export the display from a workstation at... work... to my home computer-- Ive tried using export DISPLAY=(my internal IP)@(My External IP):0.0 and then typing xhost + but it didnt work. |
| 20:58.56 | abrotman | mne: i remember you .. not the question :) |
| 20:59.06 | beardy | num00: Yes, but what is it, a phone, what? No one can make other guesses other than what the message says, that it can't talk to it, for some reason, related (probably) to input and output, when using something called "inquiry mode" |
| 20:59.12 | Termy | I have X installed, and the computer at work is KDE Debian |
| 20:59.29 | Termy | Does anyone think they could perhaps help? :/ |
| 20:59.40 | Sivik | i have never been able to get the sharing to work |
| 20:59.48 | Termy | (by the way, I dont have port 22 open on my router, but it is at work) |
| 20:59.52 | robhu | pumpkin0: Any other ideas? :P |
| 21:00.02 | Termy | I have been able to locally >.> |
| 21:00.07 | num00 | beardy, well the hci0 is the device for the bluetooth-usb-stick, like eth0 for ethernet, I would like to use the stick as router for my mobile |
| 21:00.12 | pumpkin0 | robhu: did you try dev=/dev/hdc ? |
| 21:00.22 | num00 | termy try ssh -X |
| 21:00.24 | robhu | pumpkin0: Yeah, it said: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/cdrom'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 21:00.26 | abrotman | mne: refresh my memory |
| 21:00.30 | mne | abrotman, hehe. I was trying to find a way users can index their directories similar to locatedb. With the difference that this index is then uploaded to a central database server that all those users can access. This should allow all users to check if any other user has some file. |
| 21:00.34 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 21:00.54 | beardy | robhu: Do you append something to the kernel when booting? |
| 21:00.54 | abrotman | mne: oh .. that's a different question than you had before :) |
| 21:01.02 | robhu | beardy: I dunno do I? |
| 21:01.06 | robhu | beardy: I hope not :( |
| 21:01.09 | abrotman | mne: i remember your other one now |
| 21:01.22 | abrotman | mne: will files be in a certain subdirectory? |
| 21:01.25 | beardy | robhu: If you don't know, probably not. Nevermind. |
| 21:01.37 | mne | abrotman, no, it was the same question last time. I only explained it in a possibly worse way ;) |
| 21:01.50 | abrotman | mne: you think? :) |
| 21:01.51 | num00 | beardy have you got experiences with bluez? |
| 21:01.51 | beardy | robhu: Why do you not hope it, if you don't know if it would be good or bad.. :) |
| 21:02.02 | mne | abrotman, yes. and it would be cool if it also worked for removeable media like CD-ROMs and such |
| 21:02.03 | pumpkin0 | robhu: can you mount a already finished CD with mount /dev/hdc ? |
| 21:02.08 | beardy | num00: No, just trying to get you to tell us a bit more. |
| 21:02.11 | mne | abrotman, i guess so ;) |
| 21:02.23 | robhu | beardy: beardy I'd rather not have to reboot :-) |
| 21:02.46 | abrotman | mne: you could use find . > index.txt .... and then use some script to search those files |
| 21:02.50 | num00 | beardy thank you, do you know if hcitool or the other tools have anything todo with hcid? is hcid the daemon which makes the pc a visible bluetoth host? |
| 21:03.07 | kanzure | abrotman, still having unmet dependencies, and I can't purge 'gv' apparently, suggestions? |
| 21:03.17 | abrotman | kanzure: paste the output somewhere |
| 21:03.32 | beardy | num00: Probably. I guess it takes care of the communication between the bluetooth devices and the kernel. |
| 21:03.42 | kanzure | abrotman, please hold |
| 21:03.47 | mne | abrotman, i could do so. the problem is getting it in a central database and merging it will all the other indexes from the other users |
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| 21:04.08 | num00 | beardy i would be luky if i could find proper documentation, unfortunately bluez is not well documented |
| 21:04.22 | abrotman | mne: like this "<username>:<fullpathtofile>" .. done! |
| 21:04.22 | beardy | robhu: I asked you that because of your /dev/cdrom wanting a SCSI device. |
| 21:04.42 | robhu | beardy: :-O I only have /dev/hda* ! |
| 21:04.52 | robhu | Oh lordy... |
| 21:05.04 | pumpkin0 | robhu: udev ? |
| 21:05.06 | num00 | Termy, did you solve your X exportation problem? |
| 21:05.07 | kanzure | abrotman, coming to you in a private message |
| 21:05.21 | robhu | pumpkin0: It did say something about udev. Is that something that automatically creates the devices? |
| 21:05.24 | abrotman | kanzure: hold |
| 21:05.25 | beardy | robhu: What is /dev/cdrom linked to? 'ls -la /dev/cdrom' |
| 21:05.25 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:05.25 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:05.34 | abrotman | kanzure: or /j #flood |
| 21:05.36 | mne | abrotman, right. and this index has to be uploaded to a central server and merged with indexes from other users (on different machines). |
| 21:05.43 | robhu | beardy: No such file or directory |
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| 21:05.57 | kanzure | abrotman, it can not output to the text file |
| 21:06.05 | mne | abrotman, I guess these files could be easily checked into a SQL database with some PHP script. HMMMM ... ;) |
| 21:06.09 | abrotman | kanzure: eh .. so how were you going to paste it to me ? |
| 21:06.09 | kanzure | abrotman, it pops up some graphical interface asking me about kbedic too |
| 21:06.09 | pumpkin0 | robhu: run "mount" and search for anything about "/dev" |
| 21:06.14 | Termy | num00, not yet :/ im working on it |
| 21:06.15 | kanzure | abrotman, I suppose we're not |
| 21:06.16 | beardy | robhu: Hmm.. |
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| 21:06.18 | abrotman | mne: yep |
| 21:06.26 | num00 | Termy, what are you trying to do? |
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| 21:06.30 | abrotman | kanzure: hard to debug with no error .. can you see it on your screen? |
| 21:06.33 | Termy | but I have another question: Im trying to connect to my actual machine |
| 21:06.37 | Termy | instead of my account on the server |
| 21:06.42 | kanzure | abrotman, this really, really sucks. Yeah, I can see errors on my screen. |
| 21:07.02 | robhu | pumpkin0: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/JjMJEt40.html |
| 21:07.02 | Termy | so say it was like ssh -l ewilson mymachine203@theserver.yup.edu |
| 21:07.24 | mne | abrotman, anyway, I thought there would be some readily available solution (e.g. similar to vcd-db). Those tools do a lot of nice things like extracting file information (ID3 tags from MP3s, codec types from videos, whatever..) |
| 21:07.30 | beardy | robhu: Do what pumpkin0 said. And, how many IDE devices do you have, physical devices I mean, in your computer, how many IDE harddrives and cdroms/dvds? |
| 21:07.35 | Termy | it prompts me for mymachine203's password... How can I log in as ewilson on mymachine203 at the server.yup.edu? |
| 21:07.55 | robhu | beardy: I've posted mount | grep dev @ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/JjMJEt40.html ... it has 2 ide devices. It's laptop. |
| 21:08.00 | pumpkin0 | robhu: do you have a prog called MAKEDEV ? |
| 21:08.04 | robhu | beardy: I have burned cd's on it before |
| 21:08.08 | robhu | pumpkin0: I tried MAKEDEV hdc |
| 21:08.10 | Termy | num00, Any ideas? :/ |
| 21:08.12 | abrotman | mne: not that i'm aware .. someone in ##linux might have a brainfart and squeeze one out :) |
| 21:08.18 | robhu | pumpkin0: it created the entries in a sub folder it said |
| 21:08.20 | mne | aeh, ssh ewilson@mymachine203.theserver.yup.edu ? |
| 21:08.25 | beardy | robhu: Were you using another kernel then? |
| 21:08.30 | robhu | beardy: Yes |
| 21:08.32 | kanzure | abrotman, essentially I am getting errors trying to unpack x11-common, but it's also installing quite a lot of other packages ... it says that ittries to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin (which does not exist anymore), but it is also in package gv. It calls it an error, returning error code 1. |
| 21:08.33 | Termy | ill try |
| 21:08.39 | kanzure | !tell error code 1 |
| 21:08.41 | robhu | beardy: A self compiled one. I probably used ide-scsi though |
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| 21:08.54 | pumpkin0 | robhu: MAKEDEV /dev/hdc => cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc |
| 21:08.56 | num00 | Termi I dont know if I did understand you, but you are trying to login to a remote computer via ssh, which is very easy, just : ssh user@host.domain.tld and then type in you password |
| 21:08.56 | abrotman | kanzure: you're upgrading to etch or what? |
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| 21:09.13 | kanzure | abrotman, I'm just trying to get an mp3 server working =( |
| 21:09.15 | mne | abrotman, hehe. I'll ask there later ... anyway, with simple indexing using "find ." I guess it wont'd be much work to get it working. thank you abrotman |
| 21:09.32 | kanzure | abrotman, streaming audio isn't supposed to require a reinstall of XFree86 AFAIK |
| 21:09.38 | abrotman | mne: if you want the full path .. cd / ; find $HOME |
| 21:09.46 | mne | abrotman, right .. |
| 21:09.47 | abrotman | kanzure: usually not |
| 21:09.57 | kanzure | !tell kanzure error codes |
| 21:10.09 | pumpkin0 | robhu: you have lost most of your /dev-files. I think re-makeing the files via MAKEDEV is the easy way out. The other way is to get udev working ... |
| 21:10.12 | abrotman | kanzure: aren't you sshed into the box? |
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| 21:10.33 | robhu | pumpkin0: /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "/dev/hdc" |
| 21:10.44 | kanzure | abrotman, nope, I have a laptop running next to the monitor/interface to the linux box |
| 21:10.44 | Termy | num00, it wont let me |
| 21:10.44 | robhu | pumpkin0: 'wah' ;-) |
| 21:10.44 | mne | Termy, ssh ewilson@mymachine203.theserver.yup.edu ? |
| 21:10.53 | beardy | robhu: I suspect some udev trouble, or perhaps that the initrd is not the right one.. but I doubt it would boot if that was the case though. |
| 21:10.54 | robhu | pumpkin0: making udev works sounds hard |
| 21:11.01 | pumpkin0 | robhu: cd into /dev and rerun MAKEDEV hdc |
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| 21:11.11 | num00 | Termy you may not have access to this machine |
| 21:11.14 | avenger__ | Hi |
| 21:11.15 | robhu | pumpkin0: udev active, devices will be created in /dev/.static/dev/ |
| 21:11.20 | Termy | num00, :/ I do |
| 21:11.38 | num00 | Termy ;) obviously not ;) |
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| 21:11.41 | Termy | ive done it locally, just not... remotely :/ |
| 21:11.42 | robhu | pumpkin0: cdrecord -dao dev=/dev/.static/dev/hdc1 ~/dist-1.1.4-basic/1.1.4-basic.iso = No such device or address. Cannot open '/dev/.static/dev/hdc1'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 21:11.58 | num00 | Termy how do you mean localy? |
| 21:11.59 | beardy | num00: Don't let anyone in here, or anywhere else login to your machine. |
| 21:12.01 | pumpkin0 | robhu: hdc, not hdc1 |
| 21:12.01 | abrotman | maybe it's not at hdc ? |
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| 21:12.04 | Termy | like |
| 21:12.10 | Termy | when on the same network, ive been able to connect |
| 21:12.17 | avenger__ | tell me |
| 21:12.18 | Termy | i just ssh -l ewilson mymachine203 |
| 21:12.18 | robhu | pumpkin0: No such device or address. Cannot open '/dev/.static/dev/hdc'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 21:12.44 | num00 | beardy parden? |
| 21:12.44 | pumpkin0 | robhu: what about the file MAKEDEV created ? |
| 21:12.51 | Termy | beardy, hes not... hes helping me |
| 21:12.58 | beardy | num00: nevermind, I must have misunderstood, sorry |
| 21:13.08 | robhu | pumpkin0: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 0 2006-06-24 22:15 hdc |
| 21:13.08 | Termy | and server names and computer names are made up :) |
| 21:13.10 | num00 | beardy ;) |
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| 21:13.25 | pumpkin0 | robhu: try that file with cdrecord . |
| 21:13.27 | robhu | abrotman: I've created hdb and hdd and tried those with the same result |
| 21:13.30 | blondie | people on irc have given me root on their machines before o.o |
| 21:13.45 | abrotman | blondie: but those people are stupid |
| 21:13.50 | Termy | num00, So I assumed that if I could connect locally, while on the same network, I should be able to remotely, on different networks |
| 21:13.55 | Termy | Shouldnt I? |
| 21:13.56 | Termy | :/ |
| 21:13.58 | robhu | pumpkin0: Same results... cdrecord -dao dev=/dev/.static/dev/hdc ~/dist-1.1.4-basic/1.1.4-basic.iso = No such device or address. Cannot open '/dev/.static/dev/hdc'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 21:14.03 | Gnea | blondie: k-rad ereetness. |
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| 21:14.12 | robhu | pumpkin0: same happens with hdb and hdd (which I also created using MAKEDEV) |
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| 21:14.25 | pumpkin0 | robhu: cdrecord -dao dev=/dev/hdc ? |
| 21:14.45 | marco13185 | err, wtf is ftp.debian.org down? |
| 21:15.03 | blondie | marco13185: no |
| 21:15.05 | Gnea | Connected to ftp.debian.org. |
| 21:15.07 | robhu | pumpkin0: I know its hdc too ... from messages: hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache |
| 21:15.25 | beardy | robhu: Are you running stable, testing or unstable+ |
| 21:15.25 | abrotman | marco13185: try ftp.us.debian.org |
| 21:15.26 | beardy | ? |
| 21:15.28 | robhu | pumpkin0: same error (but referencing /dev/hdc) |
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| 21:15.40 | Gnea | pumpkin0: what kernel? |
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| 21:15.47 | robhu | beardy: testing... although.. (looks embarassed) it once run unstable so its probably a bit b0rked |
| 21:15.59 | mne | marco13185, works fine here |
| 21:16.02 | marco13185 | I get this error: Could not connect to ftp.debian.org:80 (0.0.0.0). - connect (111 connection refused) |
| 21:16.09 | marco13185 | why would they refuse my connection |
| 21:16.10 | Termy | sorry num00, I dont mean to be annoying, your just the only one thats helping me I guess |
| 21:16.15 | Gnea | marco13185: wrong port. |
| 21:16.16 | pumpkin0 | marcels: that´s a http-port. |
| 21:16.21 | Gnea | ftp is not port 80 |
| 21:16.22 | robhu | beardy: Should I clean reinstall to testing? |
| 21:16.29 | beardy | robhu: At least you told us, that's good. Yes, that may be part of this problem. |
| 21:16.35 | mne | marco13185, the IP address 0.0.0.0 is somehow wrong ;) |
| 21:17.02 | pumpkin0 | robhu: you should reboot with some kind of devfs (udev ... something). |
| 21:17.04 | num00 | Termy the others are not responding probaply because they do not really understand the problem as I. |
| 21:17.04 | robhu | beardy: I hadn't even thought about that - sorry for not saying earlier, and for eating up your time... people who run unstable deserve what they get :P |
| 21:17.12 | beardy | robhu: Let's see if you can get it working first. If not, then reinstall if you want to, I suggest stable. |
| 21:17.13 | robhu | pumpkin0: I thought I had udev? |
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| 21:17.23 | Termy | num00, ah; Should I explain it again? |
| 21:17.35 | robhu | beardy: ok |
| 21:17.41 | Termy | in a nutshell |
| 21:18.01 | pumpkin0 | robhu: judding by the output of "mount" you do not have ANY /dev-system |
| 21:18.24 | num00 | Termy your box could have a firewall which is blocking port 22, or the daemon could not be running, which noone knows. Have a look if sshd is running, do you get a login, is it rejecting your loginrequest etc. |
| 21:18.30 | robhu | pumpkin0: ok - to do this will I need to reboot? I really dont want to reboot, I'd rather give up :P |
| 21:18.45 | beardy | robhu: Can udev be reinstalled? |
| 21:19.02 | robhu | beardy: Its installing |
| 21:19.14 | beardy | robhu: You didn't have it at all? |
| 21:19.16 | Termy | num00, well when I try ssh ewilson@mymachine203.blah.blah.edu |
| 21:19.17 | Termy | it says |
| 21:19.19 | robhu | beardy: seems not! |
| 21:19.21 | pumpkin0 | robhu: you may go on with trying, but that may easily corrupt your HD. |
| 21:19.21 | num00 | Termy also you could search for a good ssh howto, i remember I did read years ago one |
| 21:19.23 | robhu | beardy: it is installed |
| 21:19.23 | Termy | no address associated with nodename |
| 21:19.32 | robhu | pumpkin0: wah? Why would my hd get corrupted? |
| 21:19.35 | Termy | num00, :/ Ive read about ssh and ive read the man page |
| 21:19.38 | num00 | Termy try using the IP adress |
| 21:19.52 | Termy | yes well, I dont know the IP address of my machine |
| 21:19.55 | beardy | pumpkin0: Not his hd? What do you mean? Ýou must mean his system/installation? |
| 21:19.59 | pumpkin0 | robhu: if udev replaces your current /dev/hda ... all odds are off. |
| 21:20.02 | num00 | Termy ifconfig is your friend |
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| 21:20.15 | robhu | pumpkin0: I could come in via a live cd and fix it though |
| 21:20.33 | beardy | pumpkin0: Why would it do that? |
| 21:20.36 | Termy | num00, yes, but see... Im not on the same network |
| 21:20.40 | pumpkin0 | robhu: depends on the damage hda takes. |
| 21:20.41 | Termy | im not connected to the machine |
| 21:20.45 | Termy | so I cant find out its IP |
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| 21:21.03 | ktwilight | there's a command ip show something |
| 21:21.06 | pumpkin0 | beardy: i have played with udev & co and it will replace everything under /dev. |
| 21:21.12 | robhu | udev is running |
| 21:21.14 | num00 | Termy ohh I see, well at least you want to know if this machine is up, so make a ping to this machine. |
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| 21:21.17 | Gnea | ip a s dev eth0 |
| 21:21.27 | Termy | ok |
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| 21:21.38 | beardy | pumpkin0: Have it ever damaged your drives partition tables? |
| 21:22.02 | beardy | pumpkin0: Doesn't it take percautions, unmounting and other? |
| 21:22.04 | pumpkin0 | beardy: no, my damage was "limited" to 2 ext3 partitions. |
| 21:22.16 | beardy | pumpkin0: I see. |
| 21:22.22 | robhu | pumpkin0: That sounds bad! |
| 21:22.32 | robhu | pumpkin0: I have udev running - am I safe? |
| 21:22.38 | beardy | robhu: WHy can't you reboot? If it's a laptop |
| 21:22.41 | num00 | Termy if you see this machine is up make a telnet host 22 and see if there is a ssh daemon running, if not you are not lucky, if yes you have no access |
| 21:23.18 | robhu | beardy: ok I can reboot... Its just hasslesome takes a few minutes and I have to stop webbrowsing etc :P I'm just relaxing on the sofa in the darkness y'see :-) |
| 21:23.29 | pumpkin0 | robhu: all bets are off, and i´m out. |
| 21:23.38 | beardy | robhu: ... |
| 21:23.39 | Termy | num00, how do you suggest I ping the computer.... :/ ping wont let me use @ |
| 21:23.44 | robhu | pumpkin0: Should I remove udev? |
| 21:23.54 | num00 | Termy ping host.domain.tld |
| 21:24.04 | pumpkin0 | robhu: stop playing with /dev. Don´t change anything and REBOOT |
| 21:24.10 | Termy | mymachine203.blah.blah.edu ? yes Ive tried |
| 21:24.12 | num00 | Termy you need to read documentation |
| 21:24.19 | robhu | pumpkin0: Should I apt-get remove udev first? |
| 21:24.43 | beardy | robhu: If you are not prepared to do what it takes when we help you, because your comfiness has to wait a few minutes, it makes it less fun to help, to say the least. |
| 21:24.51 | robhu | beardy: Sorry |
| 21:25.01 | robhu | I'll rebooy |
| 21:25.16 | Termy | num00, I have! Its that its still not working |
| 21:25.23 | Termy | ive tried putting host.domain.tld |
| 21:25.33 | Termy | but it doesnt work, and thats why I came here: Im confused |
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| 21:28.33 | felipe_ | hello, good afternoon, please can someone tellme how many DVDs are for sarge/x86_64 ? |
| 21:29.32 | friedl | hey |
| 21:29.35 | abrotman | felipe_: you can just do a netinst if you want |
| 21:29.43 | abrotman | felipe_: but three i believe |
| 21:29.47 | friedl | my name is sverker |
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| 21:29.57 | felipe_ | ok thanks a lot |
| 21:30.40 | beardy | felipe_: There are two dvd:s. DO you have broadband? |
| 21:30.52 | tam | OT: does anyone know if you can get a high powered antenna (more than 7dB) for a linksys wag354g router? |
| 21:31.04 | StevenR | hmm...how do i make debian run the x11 config again? dpkg-reconfigure what ? |
| 21:31.08 | beardy | tam: try #hardware? |
| 21:31.09 | abrotman | beardy: i'm pretty sure there are three |
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| 21:31.11 | abrotman | !drxx StevenR |
| 21:31.12 | dpkg | StevenR: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:31.15 | tam | i've googled and linksys do an official one, but 30 gbp is expensive |
| 21:31.17 | Termy | thanks anyway guys |
| 21:31.22 | tam | beardy: oh i never knew there was such a channel heh |
| 21:31.27 | StevenR | abrotman: cheers :) |
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| 21:31.59 | beardy | abrotman: Ok (I missed the 64) but does that contain so much more things that it needs three? |
| 21:32.15 | abrotman | beardy: no .. i think x86 has three too |
| 21:32.29 | beardy | abrotman: That I think only has two. |
| 21:32.53 | beardy | abrotman: Unless it has becomne three since one of the revisions. |
| 21:32.54 | abrotman | beardy: eh .. must have been something else :) |
| 21:33.13 | abrotman | testing is three now .. but i thought sarge was three |
| 21:33.29 | beardy | abrotman: Ok. |
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| 21:33.56 | abrotman | beardy: not really a big deal |
| 21:33.57 | blondie | what device can I send audio directly to? /dev/dsp? |
| 21:33.58 | beardy | bah, and he left.. |
| 21:34.03 | beardy | abrotman: Not at all. |
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| 21:34.31 | beardy | abrotman: And I didn't know testing was three, so we both learned to. |
| 21:34.37 | beardy | !win abrotman and beardy |
| 21:34.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman and beardy! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 21:34.46 | beardy | too |
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| 21:35.04 | robhu | Hey guys - installing udev and rebooted has fixed it - I have a hdc that cdrecord can access now :P Thanks |
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| 21:35.17 | beardy | robhu: Good. |
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| 21:36.47 | hjubal | bye |
| 21:37.53 | five0 | hi guys, is there a way to find out which ppd file is needed for my printer in cups? |
| 21:38.15 | five0 | of the list of printers available, none match my particular model (laserjet 1100) |
| 21:38.21 | abrotman | linuxprinting.org and cups.org |
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| 21:39.24 | beardy | five0: what abrotman said, search those sites, your model can most likely use a driver named after a similar model/family of printers |
| 21:39.48 | five0 | beardy: yeah, i was under the impression that hplip and hpijs would be all that was needed |
| 21:40.06 | five0 | beardy: according to linuxprinting.org |
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| 21:40.33 | five0 | searching for hp laserjet 1100 in cups.org gave me nothing |
| 21:40.36 | larsdbj | where do i configure that Postfix uses Mbox? |
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| 21:41.19 | abrotman | why would you want that? |
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| 21:41.31 | abrotman | and iirc .. it uses mbox by default .. usually you have to switch it to maildir |
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| 21:41.50 | nadjyla | hello :) |
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| 21:41.53 | five0 | http://cups.org/ppd/hp/en/ doesn't show much either |
| 21:41.57 | larsdbj | does dovecot use maildir by default? |
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| 21:42.20 | nadjyla | dont want to upgrade the dbus now lol :) |
| 21:42.23 | Gnea | five0: you need hplip *or* hpijs |
| 21:42.27 | nadjyla | too dangerous :) |
| 21:42.32 | Gnea | hplip is better :) |
| 21:43.02 | five0 | Gnea: i've tried having either/or, but cups doesn't give me any additional options |
| 21:43.04 | larsdbj | i want to use dovecot + postfix... the mails arrive and everything etc... but the new mails dont go into .INBOX folder but into "new" folder so the user cannot see the new mail... |
| 21:43.05 | abrotman | larsdbj: you can easily configure postfix to use maildir .. and probably dovecot too |
| 21:43.06 | five0 | cups interface |
| 21:43.19 | Gnea | five0: you have to setup hplip then point cups at it |
| 21:43.35 | five0 | Gnea: oh, not just a simple apt-get install? |
| 21:43.42 | Gnea | of course not |
| 21:43.46 | Gnea | that just installs the software |
| 21:43.49 | Gnea | the rest is up to you |
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| 21:44.02 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 21:44.02 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 21:44.22 | liamlynch | hey guys, i really messed up! :( when i was creating a new partition with paragon partition manager, it asked to reboot to create the partition. so i reboot, and that blue screen comes up where it shows that it's partitioning the hard drive, here's the problem, our power went out in middle of it partitioning and now i can't boot without this message "paragon needs bootdisk" pretty much i need a bootdisk but i don't have floppy d |
| 21:44.22 | liamlynch | rive |
| 21:44.39 | nadjyla | liamlynch, paragon sux |
| 21:44.50 | abrotman | wtf is paragon ? |
| 21:44.55 | Gnea | liamlynch: what's paragon? |
| 21:45.04 | nadjyla | soft windows abrotman |
| 21:45.10 | nadjyla | ;) |
| 21:45.15 | liamlynch | hahah yep |
| 21:45.23 | nadjyla | but it sucks |
| 21:45.24 | dimir | paragon == example |
| 21:45.27 | Gnea | it's not debian, we don't support it |
| 21:45.31 | liamlynch | sorry about the offtopic guys, but i was trying to partition for debian and RELIABLE WINDOWS messes UP |
| 21:45.44 | abrotman | remove windows .. problem solved |
| 21:45.49 | Gnea | windows is reliable? smoking crack... |
| 21:45.55 | larsdbj | :) thats the spririt |
| 21:46.04 | liamlynch | haha yeah sarcasm :P right now i'm on knoppix live cd |
| 21:46.07 | nadjyla | liamlynch, no |
| 21:46.11 | liamlynch | it's the only thing that works so far :( |
| 21:46.22 | Gnea | liamlynch: so just repartition it with knoppix |
| 21:46.25 | nadjyla | use partition manager under linux, but gett off paragon |
| 21:46.44 | nadjyla | windows partition manager is ONLY for windows |
| 21:47.11 | liamlynch | ok, well i can run qtparted, but i repartitioned it, but the error still comes up, i don't know how but the windows partition manager changed my boot to demand a bootdisk to continue its operation |
| 21:47.21 | liamlynch | even though i already fixed the partition with qtparted in knoppix |
| 21:47.33 | Gnea | liamlynch: the disk may need to be low-level formatted |
| 21:47.39 | five0 | Gnea: hmm, http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/printing.htm doesn't cover any steps that are beyond what I've tried so far. |
| 21:47.41 | RichiH | what options do i have for gps-based navigation? is someone using a bluetooth GPS device and has experience with this? |
| 21:47.57 | Gnea | if it was writing the partition table and the power went out in the middle of it, the disk could be fried |
| 21:48.06 | liamlynch | oh nooo :( |
| 21:48.22 | Gnea | that reminds me, i need to get new batteries for my UPS |
| 21:48.41 | abrotman | RichiH: dude .. they have the coolest programs at freshmeat :) |
| 21:48.45 | nadjyla | omg gnome2.14 for etch! |
| 21:48.52 | nadjyla | whaouh |
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| 21:49.16 | liamlynch | heh, well Gnea i see my partitions under qtparted, and i set my hda2 as active, but i still get the error message :\ is there anyway to edit the bootup so i can skip it? |
| 21:49.17 | DaBlade | How do I format my USB dongle? |
| 21:49.29 | abrotman | mkfs.vfat ? |
| 21:49.31 | DaBlade | I want it reformatted in regular USBFS. |
| 21:49.35 | nadjyla | means for sid users, it will be apocalypse? |
| 21:49.36 | DaBlade | abrotman: Okay, thanks. |
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| 21:49.38 | simon23 | anyone in here ever used audacity ? |
| 21:49.43 | DaBlade | abrotman: Do I need any command line options? |
| 21:49.48 | Gnea | simon23: yeah |
| 21:49.51 | abrotman | DaBlade: the device? |
| 21:49.59 | DaBlade | Ok, thanks. lol |
| 21:50.01 | Gnea | liamlynch: what's the error message, exactly? |
| 21:50.02 | simon23 | Gnea: just once - or more often ? |
| 21:50.12 | Gnea | simon23: often enough, what's the problem? |
| 21:50.33 | simon23 | Gnea: I can record my voice , but it's recorded much too slow. |
| 21:50.44 | Gnea | simon23: so speed it up |
| 21:50.56 | simon23 | Gnea: that sounds ugly too |
| 21:51.06 | simon23 | Gnea: *g* but not because of my voice... |
| 21:51.12 | Gnea | simon23: you must not have done it right |
| 21:51.30 | liamlynch | it says that "to continue operation, please boot your paragon floppy bootdisk" but the thing is, after the power outage i always get that error, so i fixed the partition in qtparted, but i still get the error message because it thinks that the partition was aborted |
| 21:51.43 | simon23 | Gnea: I mean , shouldnt it be possible to play a instrumental and then record a voice to it ? |
| 21:52.00 | Gnea | simon23: yeah, just use layers |
| 21:52.09 | larsdbj | anyone that knows postfix good ? |
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| 21:53.06 | Gnea | !postfix |
| 21:53.06 | dpkg | well, postfix is a really cool MTA, which tries not to be too unlike sendmail so that its hard to get used to but is much better than sendmail or is at http://www.postfix.org , or #postfix |
| 21:53.14 | liamlynch | Gnea, sorry about that, here it is "to continue operation, please boot your paragon floppy bootdisk" |
| 21:53.26 | abrotman | !postfix =~ s/ , / / |
| 21:53.27 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 21:53.34 | abrotman | eh .. |
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| 21:53.42 | simon23 | Gnea: have you already done so ? |
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| 21:54.02 | Gnea | liamlynch: i guess you're simply not reading right. we do not support paragon. last time it's gonna be stated. you can partition using the debian installation disk. |
| 21:54.08 | simon23 | Gnea: (used layers to record a voice in normal speed ) |
| 21:55.01 | blocky | anyone around who wouldnt mind giving me a hand with my router? |
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| 21:55.22 | abrotman | blocky: just ask |
| 21:55.29 | blocky | i've got a whole firewall set up for my lan but i cant seem to get NAT enabled |
| 21:55.39 | abrotman | instead of half a firewall ? |
| 21:55.45 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 21:55.45 | blocky | :P |
| 21:55.45 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 21:55.46 | Gnea | simon23: yeah it's pretty easy - just select the area that you want to effect, then change tempo from the effect menu and tweak & preview till it sounds right |
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| 21:56.30 | blocky | hmm |
| 21:56.36 | blocky | i did apt-get install ipmasq |
| 21:56.42 | simon23 | Gnea: but shouldnt it be possible to record at normal speed without speeding it up afterwords ? |
| 21:56.45 | blocky | and it says it wants to remove shorewall |
| 21:56.50 | tc | hi, somebody can tell me how to setup or which util can i use to setup dual-head to display different screen on a laptop?? please |
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| 21:57.10 | Gnea | simon23: *shrug* |
| 21:57.18 | simon23 | Gnea: at least i got enough cpu power... |
| 21:57.30 | abrotman | tc: hit the funny button ? |
| 21:57.32 | simon23 | Gnea: sry... never worked with audio tools before... |
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| 21:57.56 | Gnea | simon23: you'll have to mess around with the effects and figure it out then... audio is extremely relative |
| 21:58.02 | tc | abrotman, funny button??? |
| 21:58.05 | RichiH | abrotman: i still value personal experience a lot, though |
| 21:58.26 | RichiH | and freshmeat does not tell me how good the cards are or which i need and how expensive they are |
| 21:58.40 | simon23 | Gnea: do you know if its possible to run audacity with arts ? |
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| 21:59.02 | beardy | simon23: You don't have a real soundcard? That is probably the problem. |
| 21:59.20 | abrotman | RichiH: i played with roadnav a bit .. it was pretty fun |
| 21:59.30 | abrotman | tc: most laptops have a button to swithc display outputs |
| 21:59.33 | blocky | hmm |
| 21:59.34 | beardy | !rs |
| 21:59.42 | simon23 | Gnea: do you mean a good soundcard ('real') ? |
| 21:59.48 | blocky | does anyone know why my ifconfig shows eth0 and eth1 have IPv6 address as well as v4 |
| 22:00.07 | RichiH | abrotman: that is us only |
| 22:00.23 | Gnea | simon23: i don't run sound daemons, they suck |
| 22:00.33 | beardy | dpkg: rs is <reply> A real soundcard (or a good soundcard, or better than bad) does hardware mixing. They are not expensive (depends on your demands of quality, but in general) get one and be happy. |
| 22:00.34 | dpkg | beardy: okay |
| 22:00.34 | abrotman | RichiH: eh .. there's another one .. road .. eh .. road<somethingelse> |
| 22:00.52 | simon23 | Gnea: I dont either ! (doesnt work :-/ ) |
| 22:01.04 | abrotman | RichiH: routeplanner? |
| 22:01.25 | abrotman | RichiH: roadmap ? |
| 22:01.49 | tc | abrotman, oh, yeah .. i dont need to hit this button~~, i just plug in another monitor, then it can display, but my question is, how can i setup it to display another screen which different from the one in laptop. looks like in Windows |
| 22:01.58 | RichiH | roadmap |
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| 22:02.09 | simon23 | Gnea: well I guess that my notebook soundcard just can't get it, maybe its not fullduplex ... although its a Dell Inspiron. |
| 22:02.24 | Gnea | simon23: what's the soundchip? |
| 22:02.40 | abrotman | tc: eh .. i'm not sure you can .. not all laptops allow that |
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| 22:03.34 | beardy | !rs =~ s/mixing/mixing, that means, play more audio streams at once, without any sounddaemons and similar.. things/ |
| 22:03.34 | dpkg | OK, beardy |
| 22:03.37 | simon23 | Gnea: its an intel ICH 6 STAC9752,53 or something like that. |
| 22:03.37 | Zvpun | How can I change the name of a partition displayed by Gnome in the computer window? |
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| 22:03.53 | tc | abrotman, i could do it, i have ATI video card. how can i know if i can? |
| 22:04.03 | simon23 | Gnea: sigmatel mixer ... |
| 22:04.27 | RichiH | another question would be if anyone knows of a good gas/mileage tracking system |
| 22:04.42 | Gnea | simon23: sounds pretty basic.. using alsa? |
| 22:04.52 | simon23 | Gnea: yes. |
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| 22:05.13 | Gnea | simon23: can you play more than one sound app at a time without using a sound daemon? |
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| 22:05.25 | larsdbj | what do i need to write for the homedir mbox in postfix? |
| 22:05.32 | simon23 | Gnea: no. |
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| 22:05.39 | Gnea | larsdbj: #postfix |
| 22:05.41 | larsdbj | what kind of option in main.cf? |
| 22:05.42 | simon23 | Gnea: so it has no real mixer... |
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| 22:05.47 | pumpkin0 | that is the fastest fs on USB-sticks ? (no need for windows-compatibility) |
| 22:06.00 | Gnea | simon23: it's only half-duplex then |
| 22:06.04 | simon23 | Gnea: too bad ... |
| 22:06.06 | buzzcap | When I install Debian for the first time and the configuration program appears, (the text mode one) what sections of software should I install? Everything? Or just the Desktop Environment section? |
| 22:06.24 | Zvpun | Gnea, simon23: yes you can using ALSA and dmix |
| 22:06.29 | Gnea | simon23: yeah, i've got an sb live! emu10k1 in my workstation, it's pretty good |
| 22:06.31 | pumpkin0 | buzzcap: what do you want to do with the box ? |
| 22:06.35 | abrotman | tc: using which driver? |
| 22:06.43 | Gnea | simon23: yeah, what Zvpun said, it's possible to set it up with dmix |
| 22:06.45 | Gnea | !dmix |
| 22:06.45 | dpkg | dmix is probably an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 22:06.46 | poer_ | my kernel is panicing... seems it can't find my partition on hda1, but it's there. anyone have an idea? |
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| 22:07.12 | Zvpun | poer_: maybe it is missing the fs-driver |
| 22:07.12 | beardy | poer_: Compiled it yourself? |
| 22:07.18 | simon23 | Gnea: emu10k1 thats needed by my system too !?... |
| 22:07.19 | poer_ | nope |
| 22:07.26 | poer_ | right off the netinst floppys |
| 22:07.28 | simon23 | so - i guess i'll try dmix then... |
| 22:07.41 | tc | abrotman, driver? you mean? |
| 22:07.46 | poer_ | ext3.. why wouldn't grub find it? |
| 22:07.48 | blocky | abrotman: i installed ipmasq but its not working |
| 22:08.02 | Gnea | simon23: well it's a soundcard that has full duplex on the hardware itself, so it doesn't need a software filter to make it work right - dmix is the software filter that can make it work right, it's an extension of alsa |
| 22:08.20 | tc | abrotman, 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M？ |
| 22:08.33 | abrotman | tc: eh .. no .. the binary ati driver or the free one ? |
| 22:08.33 | blocky | !ipmasq |
| 22:08.33 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 22:08.39 | abrotman | blocky: might need some details |
| 22:08.55 | Zvpun | poer_: you said that your kernel panics, if your kernel boots grub has already found it. |
| 22:09.06 | blocky | well i have a dhcp server up |
| 22:09.20 | poer_ | i booted knoppix to do this... i can't actually boot onto my computer's hdd |
| 22:09.21 | blocky | my internal boxes have ips, but they cant resolve anything or connect to anything external |
| 22:09.35 | blocky | i cant find any config files for ipmasq and the man page is somewhat barren |
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| 22:09.51 | poer_ | *booted knoppix + vnc to other box so i have osme of my own stuff |
| 22:10.32 | simon23 | Gnea: so my card can do it anyway ? because of that emu10k1 thing (chip?) and otherwise i can use dmix (anyways?)..? |
| 22:10.32 | abrotman | dns is wonky? |
| 22:10.32 | buzzcap | pumpkin0: i just want to be able to have printing, sound, and a new kernel out of the box |
| 22:10.32 | tc | abrotman, for default installation of Debian Etch, it gave me the driver ... i didnt need to install one. |
| 22:10.32 | buzzcap | when is Etch going to be stable? What kernel will Etch use? |
| 22:10.32 | abrotman | tc: ok .. ask #xorg if they think it might be possible |
| 22:10.32 | five0 | dontcondescendme: wrong channel? ;) |
| 22:10.32 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 22:10.32 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00015.html |
| 22:10.37 | pumpkin0 | buzzcap: desktop. missing stuff can be installed via aptitude at any time |
| 22:11.02 | dontcondescendme | five0: hmm? |
| 22:11.02 | beardy | simon23: You didn't have a emu10k1, did you? |
| 22:11.19 | tc | abrotman, thanks |
| 22:11.49 | blocky | do I need to add any sort of specifc rules to ipmasq so it allows DNS queries from inside the network? |
| 22:12.06 | simon23 | Gnea: i think i have... because i need that driver ... and i got such files on my system... |
| 22:12.43 | simon23 | Gnea: if i have,... has it to be listed in lspci ? |
| 22:13.00 | simon23 | Gnea: sry. meant someone else... |
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| 22:13.16 | simon23 | beardy: if i have - does it has to be listed in lspci ? |
| 22:13.34 | beardy | simon23: It has to be a Sound Blaster Live! card. |
| 22:13.36 | five0 | trail |
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| 22:13.40 | beardy | !emu10k1 |
| 22:13.40 | dpkg | somebody said emu10k1 was the OSS driver for the chipset found in the SoundBlaster Live! cards. |
| 22:13.53 | beardy | simon23: And it's for OSS anyway, you ran alsa. |
| 22:13.54 | k-man_ | what is the difference between the packages discover and discover1? |
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| 22:14.03 | k-man_ | and which should i install? |
| 22:14.08 | simon23 | beardy: well, I definetly dont have an sblife.. |
| 22:14.31 | blocky | can someone please tell me how to disable ipv6 on my system? |
| 22:14.41 | poer_ | what's the difference between i386, 486, and 686? |
| 22:14.51 | poer_ | (kernel i mean) |
| 22:15.10 | simon23 | beardy: how can I find out what I have really ? |
| 22:15.17 | beardy | simon23: The soundcard you have in your laptop can only play one audio stream at once, it does not have a hardware mixer. Use dmix as suggested? |
| 22:15.28 | beardy | simon23: lspci, which you showed us? |
| 22:16.08 | nvz | would d/l the linux j2re and building a deb with jaa-package satisfy these errors? azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or java2-runtime but it is not installable? the sdk talk got me confused :P |
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| 22:16.25 | simon23 | beardy: well then I have an intel chip with some AC97 stuff.. |
| 22:16.29 | nvz | I d/l jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586 |
| 22:16.34 | beardy | poer_: i386 runs on 386 and up. The other ones, only on the respective processor, i486 only on 486:s, and so on. |
| 22:16.40 | beardy | simon23: Yes. |
| 22:16.56 | poer_ | would every processor type work on a 386 kernel? |
| 22:17.00 | poer_ | (every Intel) |
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| 22:17.02 | simon23 | beardy: whats the difference between the dmix mixer and kmix ? |
| 22:17.09 | nadjyla | again hello :) |
| 22:17.15 | beardy | !kmix |
| 22:17.16 | dpkg | it has been said that kmix is a mixer to control soundcards. It can be found in kdemultimedia |
| 22:17.30 | simon23 | beardy: i know. |
| 22:17.43 | simon23 | beardy: just want to know the difference. |
| 22:17.44 | beardy | simon23: dmix is what you need, kmix is probably some mixer application, that means, a gui-thing with dragbars for the volumes. |
| 22:17.47 | nadjyla | dmix too hard. or i am too bad :/ simon23 |
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| 22:18.41 | simon23 | beardy: dmix isn't available in the debian etch feeds ?? |
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| 22:18.53 | simon23 | beardy: (I couldnt find it) |
| 22:18.54 | beardy | simon23: I don't know, it isn't? |
| 22:19.01 | beardy | !find dmix etch |
| 22:19.11 | Zvpun | can partitions have a name? Where would I change that? |
| 22:19.21 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dmix' (5): (/usr/share/alsa/pcm/dmix.conf) in libs/libasound2 ;; (/usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdp_randmix.pd) in graphics/pd-pdp ;; (/usr/share/mixxx/skins/traditional/headmixback.png) in sound/mixxx-data ;; (/usr/share/doc/libasound2-doc/html/pcm__dmix_8c.html) in libdevel/libasound2-doc ;; (/usr/share/zope/Products/PloneTranslations/i18n/utils/admix.py) in web/zope-plonetranslations. |
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| 22:19.31 | k-man_ | is there any benefit to compiling the kernel using gcc4 vs gcc3? |
| 22:19.46 | poer_ | okay, so i installed via floppy and now it won't boot. i want to change kernels and try that. is there any way into a OS that doesn't boot? |
| 22:19.46 | nadjyla | Zvpun, changes in etc/fstab ;) |
| 22:20.08 | simon23 | dpkg: apt-cache search dmix has no results...!? |
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| 22:20.22 | beardy | simon23: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 22:20.33 | beardy | simon23: Seems like it's just a configuration matter. |
| 22:20.43 | nadjyla | but s hard :/ |
| 22:21.02 | beardy | simon23: To configure alsa to use it. |
| 22:21.25 | simon23 | beardy : I can configure alsa to use it ? |
| 22:21.32 | Zvpun | nadjyla: What exactly do you mean? Gnome displays a Partition Icon with name "-------" I would like to change it to something useful." |
| 22:21.46 | beardy | !tell simon23 -about dmix |
| 22:21.50 | beardy | simon23: Read it. |
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| 22:22.34 | simon23 | beardy : sorry if i'm to stupid, -> read what ? |
| 22:22.49 | beardy | simon23: What dpkg told you in another window in your irc client. |
| 22:23.17 | simon23 | beardy: sorry, havent noticed that *shame* |
| 22:23.27 | beardy | and |
| 22:23.32 | beardy | !msgdpkg |
| 22:23.32 | dpkg | "/msg" is a command in most IRC clients to send a private message (PM) to a user. dpkg is a bot, who responds to certain keywords with information. If somebody tells you to "/msg dpkg something", type that into your IRC client and dpkg will tell you something in private to keep clutter off the main channel. Make sure you don't leave a space between the start of the line and the "/msg". |
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| 22:25.10 | simon23 | beardy: then dpkg did post in this channel automaticly ? |
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| 22:25.40 | beardy | simon23: hmm? |
| 22:26.02 | simon23 | beardy: dpkg is a bot? |
| 22:26.11 | beardy | simon23: Yes. |
| 22:26.12 | nadjyla | miaou |
| 22:26.12 | Ronin | simon23: it is |
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| 22:26.31 | crazy_penguin | good night everyone. sleep well :) |
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| 22:26.47 | simon23 | beardy: did dpkg send his msg (in this channel --> #debian) automatic ? |
| 22:27.05 | simon23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.10 | beardy | simon23: No, I told dpkg to tell you about the factoid dmix |
| 22:27.21 | simon23 | beardy: cool... |
| 22:27.38 | beardy | simon23: Ah, no, that was a reply to my search for dmix. |
| 22:27.45 | simon23 | beardy: anyway - cool :-) |
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| 22:28.05 | simon23 | beardy: and a big THANKYOU for your help - very kind. |
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| 22:28.17 | beardy | simon23: Your welcome :) |
| 22:28.27 | beardy | You're |
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| 22:30.23 | Axsuul | does debian have a package system? |
| 22:30.38 | nadjyla | yes no miaou |
| 22:30.40 | g333k | Hi, what tool do you use to convert the rip rate of the songs? or maybe to rip cds too..... |
| 22:30.53 | stew | Axsuul: yes. google for the apt howto |
| 22:31.01 | marculix | Axsuul: yes, indeed |
| 22:31.20 | nadjyla | g333k, i use grip |
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| 22:32.00 | g333k | nadjyla, I allow you to convert from 192kpbs to 128 ? |
| 22:32.19 | nadjyla | use lame ;) |
| 22:32.30 | nadjyla | ;) |
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| 22:33.04 | g333k | thanks |
| 22:33.05 | nadjyla | lame --preset help :) |
| 22:33.41 | nadjyla | or you can use soundconverter if you hate keyboard |
| 22:33.41 | Axsuul | g333k: is it like the freebsd port system? |
| 22:34.13 | g333k | nadjyla, yeah I'd like a GUI |
| 22:34.22 | g333k | nadjyla, front end right? |
| 22:34.22 | nadjyla | so use soundconverter ;) |
| 22:34.25 | nadjyla | yes |
| 22:34.26 | Axsuul | oops i mean |
| 22:34.39 | nadjyla | front end with gstreamer |
| 22:34.53 | g333k | I had troubles printing from console.... So I'm mad with my console :( |
| 22:35.10 | nadjyla | can convert anything gstreamer read, so mp3 192 to 128, it s okay |
| 22:35.16 | Axsuul | is the debian package system like freebsd's port system |
| 22:35.22 | beardy | g333k: I doubt that is responsible for that.. |
| 22:35.38 | g333k | beardy, Mayeb Cups |
| 22:35.44 | g333k | maybe* |
| 22:36.18 | beardy | g333k: heh, yes. Or you not doing it/something right. |
| 22:36.41 | nadjyla | g333k, convert 192 to 128 , it s bad for quality |
| 22:36.58 | stew | Axsuul: not really, no. its not source code based for one thing, |
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| 22:37.38 | dimir | Axsuul: yes, Debian has it's own package management system, dpkg. As for front-end, the apt (non distro-dependant) is used. |
| 22:37.43 | Axsuul | so its like yum? |
| 22:38.01 | nadjyla | g333k, soundconverter is easy to use, but not fast |
| 22:38.13 | nadjyla | if you want fast, use lame on console |
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| 22:38.24 | blocky | anyone have experience with a shorewall firewall? |
| 22:38.27 | g333k | Well in winbugs I had the toy,,,, but How can I know here which files in a directory of just mp3 files, are in more of 128kbps? |
| 22:38.28 | dimir | Axsuul: you can install from sources to, there is apt-build. |
| 22:38.43 | beardy | blocky: Ask your question instead. |
| 22:38.49 | nadjyla | g333k, =>soundconverter ;) |
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| 22:39.10 | g333k | nadjyla, but soundconverter is supposed to execute lame in the back right= |
| 22:39.20 | nadjyla | yeah |
| 22:39.33 | g333k | nadjyla, so why is not as fast as lame? |
| 22:39.42 | beardy | g333k: 'file afile.mp3' does that tell it? |
| 22:40.03 | nadjyla | for lame : lame --preset xxx <input file> <output file |
| 22:40.19 | blocky | how do I enable DNS requests in my NAT |
| 22:40.24 | Axsuul | does debian's package system update with debian releases or is dynamically updated |
| 22:40.26 | g333k | beardy, I dont undestand what you mean |
| 22:40.34 | blocky | when i run shorewall check - i can see the macro.DropDNS being executed |
| 22:40.43 | beardy | g333k: Run file somefile.mp3 |
| 22:40.47 | nadjyla | g333k, see what i told |
| 22:41.00 | blocky | i copied macro.DNS from /usr/share/shorewall to /etc/shorewall but it still seems to be executing the DropDNS instead of the DNS |
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| 22:41.31 | blocky | none of the computers on my internal network can resolve hostnames, but NAT is working fine |
| 22:41.41 | blocky | they can browse if i look up the ip thru ssh to the router' |
| 22:41.55 | beardy | !resolv.conf |
| 22:42.01 | beardy | !resolvconf |
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| 22:42.12 | g333k | The thing is that I dont want to waste time re-encoding files that are already at 128kbps, understand what I mean? |
| 22:42.17 | blocky | dns requests work fine on the router |
| 22:42.28 | blocky | just not from internal clients |
| 22:42.56 | dimir | iptables -A OSTROUTING -p udp -d 0/0 --dport 53 -j MASQ |
| 22:43.09 | dimir | iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 0/0 --dport 53 -j ACCEPT |
| 22:43.13 | dimir | that is. |
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| 22:43.19 | beardy | g333k: Yes, we understand, and what nadjyla told you above probably does that fine. |
| 22:43.54 | nadjyla | g333k, lame --preset xxx <input file> <output file ;) :) |
| 22:43.59 | blocky | dimir: that doesnt do anything |
| 22:44.08 | blocky | i have shorewall-generated iptables rules already set up |
| 22:44.26 | g333k | nadjyla, input and output are the same file, cause I want it to overwrite the source file |
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| 22:44.40 | nadjyla | no :) |
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| 22:45.05 | nadjyla | input=file 192 for you, output =128 for you :) |
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| 22:45.15 | nadjyla | only for you case |
| 22:45.16 | dimir | blondie: then rtfm of your stupid app if you are too lame to write your own set of rules. |
| 22:45.18 | beardy | g333k: But why encode down them to 128? that sounds like crap.. |
| 22:45.21 | g333k | nadjyla, I mean, do you want me to do this operation file by file? |
| 22:45.21 | dimir | blocky too. |
| 22:45.26 | MickMcMack | Hi, this may seem a silly question, but what is the package name for Sun's Java - I always used to install it via java-package, but I hear I can get the Sun one by apt now? |
| 22:45.42 | g333k | nadjyla, waaaaa I see |
| 22:45.47 | nadjyla | g333k, if you have many filles, and if you want sllep, use soundconverter |
| 22:45.48 | stew | MickMcMack: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 22:45.54 | nadjyla | :) |
| 22:46.01 | g333k | nadjyla, lol |
| 22:46.04 | nadjyla | :) |
| 22:46.05 | ftp3 | i am getting "quotaon: using //aquota.user on /dev/hda1 [/]: No such process" and "quotaon: Quota format not supported in kernel.".. its 2.4.27... anyone know what i did wrong? |
| 22:46.11 | MickMcMack | stew, Etch. |
| 22:46.18 | stew | MickMcMack: its only in unstable currently |
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| 22:46.52 | nadjyla | it s works very well, g33k. i prefer lame or mplayer because it s fast, but sound converter for you :) |
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| 22:47.28 | blocky | dimir: thats not the point, your rule didn't work |
| 22:47.30 | MickMcMack | stew, I see! |
| 22:47.40 | MickMcMack | stew, it cannot seem to find java-package either. :< |
| 22:47.50 | stew | MickMcMack: its in contrib /msg dpkg contrib |
| 22:48.02 | MickMcMack | Aha, forgot about that. :3 |
| 22:48.07 | MickMcMack | I've not done an install for ages, thanks. |
| 22:48.11 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 22:48.14 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 22:48.14 | dos000 | is there a way i can pipe commands one by one to a remote server whithout having to ssh <hostip> "cmd" evrytime ? |
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| 22:50.49 | ktwilight | dos000, maybe ssh <hostip> "cmd && cmd && cmd"? |
| 22:51.02 | halibut | can anyone tell me the name of the film that is on tv now? (eddie murphy or someone? ) |
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| 22:52.00 | dos000 | ktwilight, the question is to pipe it one by one ! i can copy the whole file right now. but doing it one by one is iportant for me |
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| 22:52.22 | ktwilight | no idea. sorry :/ |
| 22:53.25 | g333k | soundconverter just delete my mp3 instead overwrite it :( |
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| 22:53.58 | nadjyla | change the destination ;) |
| 22:53.58 | k-man_ | if i midify the grub menu.lst, do i have to reinstall grub? |
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| 22:54.15 | k-man_ | or does grub find the menu.lst at boot time? |
| 22:54.19 | nadjyla | i think no k-man |
| 22:54.33 | nadjyla | dont reinstall for channe menu.list |
| 22:54.38 | nadjyla | change |
| 22:54.47 | k-man_ | ok |
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| 22:54.57 | linux_user400354 | how do i give my computer a name after i have installed bind? |
| 22:54.58 | k-man_ | thanks nadjyla, i hope your right ;) as i have to reboot now |
| 22:55.05 | nadjyla | pray :p |
| 22:55.15 | g333k | k-man, just re-install grub when you modify your mbr |
| 22:55.22 | k-man_ | g333k, oh, ok |
| 22:55.23 | k-man_ | thanks |
| 22:55.24 | Pons | anyone of you know about how can i change default python version on my system to 2.4?, more than changing the /usr/bin/python link to python2.4? |
| 22:55.27 | nadjyla | i love madonna :p |
| 22:55.32 | k-man_ | ill ba back soon i hope |
| 22:55.38 | Pons | i can't install a .deb |
| 22:55.39 | k-man_ | s/ba/be |
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| 22:56.04 | Pons | i get this Version of python on system is 2.3.5-10., but i have 2.4 installed too |
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| 22:56.17 | nadjyla | Pons, , sid or etch? |
| 22:56.19 | Pons | etch |
| 22:56.41 | stew | Pons: don't mess with the link. if you have a script that requires python2.4, change the shebang to #!/usr/bin/python2.4 |
| 22:56.55 | Pons | it is no that |
| 22:57.05 | Pons | the problem is when i install a package |
| 22:57.09 | Pons | that requires python2.4 |
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| 22:57.15 | Pons | says Version of python on system is 2.3.5-10. |
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| 22:57.41 | stew | Pons: what package are you trying to install? |
| 22:58.19 | stew | Pons: if you change the symlink you'll break other stuff |
| 22:58.38 | Pons | python2.4-gpod |
| 22:59.31 | stew | Pons: thats not a debian package though? |
| 22:59.38 | Pons | not on debian repositories |
| 23:00.29 | nadjyla | for? |
| 23:00.47 | stew | Pons: it sounds like you need to fix the packaging or have whomever created it fix the packaging, you shouldn't have a problem installing python2.4-modules even if python2.3 is the default on the system |
| 23:00.47 | Pons | why am I installing it? |
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| 23:02.57 | sandman | Are they any notable problems with gcc 4.0.4? |
| 23:03.20 | stew | sandman: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 23:04.03 | k-man_ | im trying to boot a kernel i just compiled |
| 23:04.26 | nadjyla | initrd? |
| 23:04.33 | k-man_ | but when i boot it, it panics and says it can't mount /root, and i should append a root= command to the kernel |
| 23:04.35 | stew | k-man_: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 23:05.11 | k-man_ | but i am appending the root=/dev/hdd2 to the kernel string in grub |
| 23:05.17 | g333k | nadjyla, is there another like soundconverter? just to try |
| 23:05.35 | nadjyla | g333k, with mouse no |
| 23:05.42 | k-man_ | oh... maybe i didn't include the disk controller, i'll check |
| 23:05.51 | g333k | lol |
| 23:06.15 | nadjyla | but ,soundconverter is very good if you want to sleep |
| 23:06.20 | k-man_ | its a standard kernel, i can't think why it wouldn't be included by default |
| 23:07.35 | beardy | k-man_: No it isn't. You said you compiled it yourself. |
| 23:08.00 | k-man_ | beardy, yeah, but i thought i copied the .config from a known working kernel tree |
| 23:08.12 | k-man_ | anyway |
| 23:08.14 | beardy | k-man_: And many people does that mistake. |
| 23:08.15 | k-man_ | doesn't matter |
| 23:08.23 | k-man_ | as i'm discovering |
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| 23:08.32 | Pons | how can i extract the contents of a .deb? |
| 23:08.37 | beardy | (I probably have done it to, after a few times, you learn from it ;) ) |
| 23:08.43 | k-man_ | beardy, the ata drivers were modules as you predicted |
| 23:09.46 | beardy | k-man_: stew was faster though |
| 23:10.04 | k-man_ | ah, yes |
| 23:10.05 | k-man_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:10.42 | freezombie | does dpkg (bot) still work ? |
| 23:10.46 | freezombie | it doesn't respond to privmsg's |
| 23:10.48 | freezombie | !sid |
| 23:10.50 | dimir | Pons: ar x <debpackage> |
| 23:10.50 | beardy | No :) |
| 23:10.54 | freezombie | !guidelines |
| 23:10.54 | k-man_ | worked for me |
| 23:11.02 | beardy | He just quit. |
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| 23:11.09 | beardy | !moo |
| 23:11.10 | stew | freezombie: dpkg just quit. use aptitude or ravenbird or apt |
| 23:11.10 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 23:11.43 | ali7288 | hi everyone, i try to burn a dvd image to a dvd+r but it says READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=02h]: Input/output error |
| 23:11.43 | ali7288 | any idea of what the problem could be? |
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| 23:12.04 | beardy | ali7288: Bad disc? |
| 23:12.25 | ali7288 | i tried a couple |
| 23:12.30 | ali7288 | i can try more ....? |
| 23:12.39 | beardy | ali7288: Oh, bad image I mean. |
| 23:12.40 | blocky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.40 | blocky_ | lol |
| 23:12.40 | ali7288 | umm |
| 23:12.43 | ali7288 | i use gnomebaker to maek the image |
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| 23:12.54 | ali7288 | i also tried to right the folders to the disc w/ growisofs |
| 23:13.25 | beardy | ali7288: Tried? But failed? Is it an iso9660 filesystem? |
| 23:13.30 | ali7288 | yes |
| 23:13.33 | ali7288 | dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd |
| 23:13.33 | ali7288 | INQUIRY: [ATAPI ][DVD*RV 4X4X02 ][B0GX] |
| 23:13.33 | ali7288 | :-[ MODE SENSE#2A failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=02h]: Input/output error |
| 23:13.50 | ali7288 | if that helps any ^ |
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| 23:14.00 | g333k | nadjyla, --preset xxx , the xxx means the encodign quality right? for me is 128 ? |
| 23:14.36 | beardy | g333k: anyway, man lame, will tell you, search, by typing a /, for --preset |
| 23:14.43 | beardy | !tell sneex -about away |
| 23:14.48 | g333k | nadjyla, cause in the help there's no 128 preset |
| 23:15.22 | g333k | beardy, type lame --preset help , and see that theres no 128 preset |
| 23:15.40 | beardy | g333k: That's not what I said, and I don't have lame. |
| 23:17.11 | g333k | beardy, I think I got it,,, I had to use --cbr to get a constant bitrate and --preset 128 |
| 23:17.57 | beardy | g333k: That's the spirit, read and try. Good. |
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| 23:20.57 | Pons | any of you know any listen packages for debian? |
| 23:22.28 | nadjyla | only for ubuntu, i think |
| 23:22.44 | Nekomagesdesu | w00t finally got my controller cards working :D |
| 23:23.21 | beardy | Pons: listen? |
| 23:23.37 | g333k | beardy, complete command: lame --preset cbr 128 <input> <output> |
| 23:23.40 | nadjyla | beardy : like banshee |
| 23:23.50 | beardy | nadjyla: and what is that? |
| 23:24.11 | beardy | g333k: great :) |
| 23:24.18 | g333k | nadjyla, is listen avaiable ? |
| 23:24.28 | nadjyla | jukebox, better than rhythmbox |
| 23:24.41 | nadjyla | packages only for ubuntu i think now |
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| 23:25.39 | calmar | hi all, would anybody know: if I compile a new kernal, it seems the alsa is included in the kernel package? or is there a need for download the alsa-package? |
| 23:25.51 | k-man_ | ok, trying the new kernel with ide drivers |
| 23:25.54 | k-man_ | bbiab |
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| 23:25.59 | nadjyla | calmar, included |
| 23:26.04 | linux2 | can someone help me with my nvidia drives |
| 23:26.07 | linux2 | drivers |
| 23:26.10 | stew | calmar: included in 2.6 knerels, not in 2.4 kernels |
| 23:26.11 | linux2 | i installed them |
| 23:26.27 | calmar | nadjyla,stew I see thanks. |
| 23:26.38 | linux2 | and when i try to load X i get an error saying that my kernel-modules are a different version than my X modules |
| 23:26.40 | linux2 | how do i fix this |
| 23:26.41 | linux2 | ? |
| 23:26.42 | nadjyla | np :) |
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| 23:29.20 | nadjyla | linux2, sid or etch? |
| 23:29.59 | linux2 | nadjyla, etch |
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| 23:32.17 | ali7288 | oops, i tried to copy file to dvd but instead i copied to hdc(which is my harddrive) using dd like this: dd if=FILE of=/dev/hdc |
| 23:32.26 | ali7288 | umm did this cause me any problems? |
| 23:33.19 | nvz | hah, if you did that as root you just hosed your partition table and who knows what else |
| 23:33.26 | linux2 | nadjyla, anything? |
| 23:33.36 | ali7288 | fuck |
| 23:33.50 | nvz | dont reboot |
| 23:33.54 | ali7288 | i won't |
| 23:33.57 | nvz | before installing and running gpart |
| 23:34.10 | nvz | if that will even fix it :P |
| 23:34.23 | ali7288 | i can't use apt anymore |
| 23:34.27 | ali7288 | that's ruined:-( |
| 23:34.29 | nvz | heh |
| 23:34.30 | ali7288 | craaaaaaaap |
| 23:34.30 | beardy | !testdisk |
| 23:34.31 | dpkg | well, testdisk is an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html Partition scanner and disk recovery tool TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks. It is very useful in recovering lost partitions. |
| 23:34.47 | linux2 | guess i have to format also |
| 23:34.55 | linux2 | because i cannot remove one package |
| 23:34.58 | beardy | ali7288: But most likely some of your data is overwritten aswell. |
| 23:35.29 | beardy | ali7288: Learn from this. Don't be root. Think about what you do before doing something as root. Backup. |
| 23:35.30 | nvz | yeah, you're screwed :P |
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| 23:35.37 | ali7288 | yes it was stupid |
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| 23:36.26 | nvz | I'll tell you what when you reinstall make a random root passwd like K3./dja?rh4J85jHw/.2jr and dont write it down |
| 23:36.36 | nvz | that way you cant hurt yourself in the future |
| 23:36.45 | ali7288 | i usualyl don't hurt myself |
| 23:36.50 | beardy | ali7288: Try to download testdisk, perhaps there is a precompiled package, or download the deb and unpack it to a floppy and similar, and try to run it, use another computer to unpack it if you have to. |
| 23:36.56 | SerajewelKS | i just got sent an attachment, and file says: "._outline.doc: AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file" anything in debian to decode this, or do i return to sender? |
| 23:37.20 | beardy | ali7288: or compile it on another box |
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| 23:37.34 | nvz | yeah well shit happens :P I deleted a small portion of my data the other day as well and wasnt even root I just have a habbit with programming in a shell instead of in an editor.. |
| 23:37.59 | ali7288 | thing is i was having a problem writing to dvds |
| 23:38.06 | ali7288 | so i would love to be abl eto write to dvds to back up |
| 23:38.09 | ali7288 | but i can't>:o |
| 23:38.37 | ali7288 | so none of the partitions on that harddrive will work after a reboot? |
| 23:39.25 | beardy | ali7288: If you can get your partition table back, you can perhaps use a livecd, and mount the partitions, and grab what you need, to somewhere on your network, or perhaps burn to dvd, if it would work using a livecd. |
| 23:39.37 | nvz | I also have another bad habbit of not backing up data before testing shit I write in a shell instead of in an editor |
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| 23:40.38 | beardy | nvz: Learn you too? (Hi, btw, haven't seen you in a while) |
| 23:40.42 | nvz | it usually goes well because I use echo or such to simple output what would happen, but sometimes I forget and run the actual thing before its finished |
| 23:40.43 | beardy | !nvzdrink nvz |
| 23:40.52 | ali7288 | i cannot use tar:-/ |
| 23:41.02 | ali7288 | and i don't have a floppy drive in this computer |
| 23:41.33 | nvz | mmmm.. I havent had that in awhile.. mostly cause its cost per oz is too high compared to everything else and I can only find it in small ammounts so its an uneconomical choice of beverage |
| 23:41.33 | beardy | ali7288: usb stick |
| 23:41.35 | ali7288 | i could just back up a lot of my files onto an ntfs partition that i have mounted (which exists on another computer) |
| 23:42.11 | streuner | a live-CD is a good idea then |
| 23:42.33 | beardy | ali7288: Try it. And don't reboot, until you have thought about it a long time. |
| 23:42.51 | ali7288 | thanks |
| 23:44.07 | nvz | beardy: my cable bill is in someone else's name and all I have is a cell phone not to mention I dont have any money.. so I dont get online much anymore |
| 23:44.16 | ali7288 | i also have another harddrive in this computer so i can back stuff onto it |
| 23:44.35 | beardy | nvz: Ok, I see. |
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| 23:45.01 | streuner | nvz: hm, a flat is pretty cheap here in .de |
| 23:45.18 | stoned | I pay 425$/month |
| 23:45.23 | stoned | renty only |
| 23:45.30 | streuner | heh |
| 23:45.45 | beardy | streuner: flatrate dialup? Doesn't exist in all countries though.. |
| 23:45.56 | streuner | beardy: of course not |
| 23:46.01 | stoned | I want to move to where people don't use money |
| 23:46.07 | stoned | everything is traded in sex or food |
| 23:46.14 | stoned | cuz basically that what everyone needs |
| 23:46.19 | beardy | money usually works too |
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| 23:46.45 | beardy | oh, you mean that's what you want? |
| 23:46.49 | stoned | yes |
| 23:47.55 | stoned | I like you car, wanna sell it? sure, i'll sell it. alright, lets have sex. oh sorry, I already had that a little while ago, you got anything to eat though? and... then the car is mine |
| 23:48.00 | nvz | yeah well I pay $325USD and I have to cut the grass, and the cable, gas, electric, water, garbage.. is all included |
| 23:48.01 | stoned | ahh me an my fantasy world |
| 23:48.16 | stoned | nvz, damn, i'll cut some grass for that |
| 23:48.33 | streuner | stoned: 425 bucks for what? |
| 23:48.36 | nvz | if I get a new job and save some money I am gonna try talk them into raising the rent and adding cable internet. |
| 23:48.48 | stoned | rent+utilities. electric not included. |
| 23:49.33 | stoned | money should be replaced by cheeseburgurs and blowjobs, pardon the french |
| 23:49.49 | stoned | that should solve the problems but there are some kinks I have not worked out yet |
| 23:49.55 | stoned | hindus for example, they can't eat beef |
| 23:50.04 | stoned | might have to modify the cheeeseburgur for em |
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| 23:50.22 | nvz | as I understand they have dialup but dont use it much.. I could wire up a router and hook both of us to it.. I am renting their basement apartment. its got big rooms all at least 150sqft new storm windows, and I got my own portch and parking pad.. and its well located you cant beat that with a stick in a college town |
| 23:50.36 | streuner | stoned: there are some people who don't use money, they just use credits, some people do the work for others and get credits and they have to do the job what they can do best... |
| 23:50.41 | beardy | stoned: How many fucks is a car worth? You'd still have an economic system, just that the things you pay with are different, not much difference from today. The ones with all the food and big dicks will still rule the world. |
| 23:51.08 | stoned | you do realize I'm _trying_ to be funny |
| 23:51.16 | stoned | apparantly, I failed miserably |
| 23:51.22 | streuner | haha |
| 23:51.23 | beardy | stoned: Same here. |
| 23:51.29 | streuner | you are funny now :-) |
| 23:51.32 | stoned | lol |
| 23:52.39 | nvz | most the student housing (a lot of which I've built myself when I was doing construction) go for $800-1800/mo and the rooms are way smaller have few windows as they are all crammed together and inadiquite parking and isnt very close to anything |
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| 23:53.00 | nvz | and surely dont have a yard, portch or included utilities |
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| 23:54.04 | bam_ | morning |
| 23:54.04 | streuner | stoned: ever heard of 'Roger Waters'? |
| 23:54.13 | Knorrie | yes! |
| 23:54.20 | bam_ | anyone give a hand at setting up my monitor? |
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| 23:54.49 | bam_ | err, rather video card |
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| 23:57.11 | stoned | streuner, no I have not |
| 23:57.39 | MickMcMack | Thanks Mr. stew. :3 |
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| 23:59.44 | streuner | stoned: http://www.lyricsdepot.com/roger-waters/perfect-sense-pt-2.html |