| 00:00.18 | stoned | grey box is empty |
| 00:00.23 | stoned | am I supposed to see something |
| 00:00.28 | stoned | adblock filters it out i think |
| 00:00.38 | stoned | no lyrics here |
| 00:00.41 | killown | anyone know a front - end for babelfish? |
| 00:00.51 | stoned | I want one in my head |
| 00:01.22 | streuner | killown: no, but you could use babelfish at altavista.com |
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| 00:03.09 | streuner | stoned: http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/lyrics_in_the_flesh.html |
| 00:03.10 | Amarande | Fortunately tonight is prime computer tinkering weather. |
| 00:03.15 | bam_ | anyone point me in the direction so I can get my video card to work properly? |
| 00:03.22 | streuner | stoned: PERFECT SENSE PART 2 |
| 00:03.25 | Amarande | bam: what video card is it? |
| 00:03.39 | bam_ | ati 9700, mobility |
| 00:03.57 | Amarande | bam: oh, laptop :( |
| 00:04.01 | bam_ | yup |
| 00:04.07 | bam_ | sager 8790 |
| 00:04.13 | Amarande | I was goign to say if it was ATI, you'd be better off swapping it out for an nVidia card since they seem to have far better Linux support |
| 00:04.23 | bam_ | I agree |
| 00:04.23 | Amarande | do you need 3D, or no? |
| 00:04.30 | bam_ | nah not really |
| 00:04.51 | Amarande | Did you try the 'radeon' xorg driver? |
| 00:04.52 | bam_ | just want my resolution to be proper |
| 00:04.56 | stoned | streuner, nice to you your exact sentiments towards me |
| 00:04.57 | stoned | :( |
| 00:05.01 | stoned | nice to know* |
| 00:05.03 | bam_ | hmmm, not yet |
| 00:05.23 | bam_ | lemme see |
| 00:05.31 | Amarande | wait, do you use XFree86 or xorg? |
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| 00:06.13 | bam_ | ooo, not sure I think xfree |
| 00:06.14 | stoned | streuner, I read the wrong one |
| 00:06.22 | bam_ | I am a nOOb |
| 00:06.22 | stoned | haha, I thought you wanted me shot! |
| 00:06.50 | bam_ | how do I check? |
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| 00:07.09 | streuner | X --version |
| 00:07.12 | stoned | streuner, you should check out the streets. Much of the similar kind of lyrical work |
| 00:07.16 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:07.27 | Amarande | is it possible for an IDE cable to be damaged in such a way that the drive is accessible but won't boot? |
| 00:07.39 | streuner | well, they have stolen the lyrics from Roger then :-) |
| 00:07.39 | Snake | Hi guys, what package would I need to extract .debs in the gnome enviroment? (stable) |
| 00:07.57 | Amarande | snake: "ar" |
| 00:08.00 | stoned | streuner, wikipedia "the streets" "mike skinner" |
| 00:08.01 | stoned | etc. |
| 00:08.02 | Amarande | .debs are "ar" archives |
| 00:08.23 | stoned | Snake, file-roller |
| 00:08.23 | Amarande | type "man ar" and find out how to extract |
| 00:08.28 | bam_ | xfree |
| 00:08.33 | Snake | Okay thanks |
| 00:08.37 | Amarande | bam, you might need xorg |
| 00:08.39 | stoned | Amarande, he asked for gnome env. |
| 00:08.46 | stoned | you told him console |
| 00:08.49 | streuner | dpkg, ati |
| 00:08.49 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
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| 00:09.08 | bam_ | ok, how do I switch |
| 00:09.14 | Snake | stoned: console is fine as well ;) |
| 00:09.40 | stoned | Snake, indeed it is |
| 00:09.57 | stoned | baby you so fine... |
| 00:10.08 | Snake | Hehe |
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| 00:10.40 | Amarande | stoned: you open an xterm in gnome, of course :) |
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| 00:11.02 | streuner | bam_: check out /msg dpkg laptop |
| 00:11.03 | streuner | first |
| 00:11.19 | streuner | bam_: there are some tips for almost every laptop |
| 00:11.19 | berndx | hi i cant remove "taskjuggler" with "apt-get remove" what can i do now ? |
| 00:11.20 | Amarande | Geez, WD Caviar SE's are so quiet you can barely tell if they're even running |
| 00:11.42 | streuner | bam_: if you want switch to xorg just /msg dpkg backport(s) |
| 00:11.49 | Amarande | berndx, what's it say when you try? |
| 00:11.57 | Amarande | you probably have something installed that depends on taskjuggler |
| 00:12.01 | streuner | bam_: read instructions on the website and get xorg for sarge |
| 00:12.15 | berndx | Amarande, "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'" |
| 00:12.35 | berndx | and "Aborted" |
| 00:12.36 | Ex-Cyber | Amarande: it's weird; I can look up customer reviews of almost any HD family and get people saying that they're whisper-quiet and people saying that they can be heard in the next room :/ |
| 00:12.43 | Snake | Amarande: thanks a bunch :) |
| 00:12.45 | Snake | cya around |
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| 00:17.03 | bam_ | location of sources.list? |
| 00:17.04 | berndx | Amarande, ok fix it, what a crap software :) |
| 00:17.22 | streuner | bam: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:17.28 | bam_ | thanks |
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| 00:18.09 | berndx | good night all |
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| 00:19.06 | streuner | bam_: i guess you have 'findutils' installed, just run updatedb, you could use 'locate foo' then. |
| 00:19.38 | killown | as I kill conection tcp 0 0 x.x.x.x.:xx 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN exist some program does that? |
| 00:19.41 | killown | fuser make it? |
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| 00:21.31 | mentor | I just had to log on to note that module-assistant is some of the dodgiest shell scripting I have seen. |
| 00:21.48 | stoned | !vfat |
| 00:21.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, vfat is a very fat 32 bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for info on getting write access for regular users, "/msg apt vfatrw", or you should not be using this filesystem unless Windows needs to read it. |
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| 00:26.37 | Ex-Cyber | I thought "VFAT" just referred to the long filename scheme and FAT32 was a separate thing |
| 00:26.37 | bam_ | hmmm... |
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| 00:31.37 | Brox | every now and then i get this error. I don't have a soundcard and alsa-base, alsa-tools and alsa-lib isn't installed. The latter doesn't even exist acording to apt-cache search. Why the error? |
| 00:32.16 | Brox | http://pastebin.ca/70930 |
| 00:32.17 | itchi | Is it bad to use that user with the id 1000 ? The user we have setup in the installation. |
| 00:35.02 | Amarande | itchi: no, you're supposed to use that user |
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| 00:35.07 | Amarande | what's bad is to be root when you don't need to be |
| 00:35.28 | Amarande | Yay, I solved my hard drive problem. |
| 00:35.30 | Amarande | PEBKAC. |
| 00:35.34 | mentor | heh |
| 00:35.37 | dos000 | is there a command/tool to remotely execute a command and return the exit error ? i want to spoon feed the server configuration scripts and check for errors. yes i am using ssh and i know ssh "cmd". |
| 00:35.42 | Amarande | But a forgivable PEBKAC, as I'm still a bit puzzled as to why it failed the way it did. |
| 00:35.49 | itchi | Amarande: It's because i think i had read it some else an time ago |
| 00:36.14 | Amarande | For some reason if I set the jumper to Cable Select, it works, but if I set it to Master, it doesn't. |
| 00:36.18 | itchi | Amarande: And like i use that one id number :-/ |
| 00:36.58 | itchi | Amarande: That ^^ trouble i have also discover on some computers |
| 00:37.14 | stoned | rvgate, hi |
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| 00:37.21 | rvgate | stoned, hi |
| 00:37.22 | itchi | Amarande: Your trouble i mean |
| 00:37.27 | stoned | !tell rvgate -about nvidia one liner |
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| 00:38.58 | muhoo | i'm manually installing a debian system using chroot. what would be the recommended partition layout for a 250gb drive? |
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| 00:39.37 | muhoo | assuming i'm going to have separate partitions for /, /usr, and /var at least |
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| 00:40.04 | Ex-Cyber | muhoo: /home? |
| 00:40.05 | Brox | I get these errors reguarly: http://pastebin.ca/70930. Can someone explain what they mean or how i can get rid of them? |
| 00:40.17 | muhoo | Ex-Cyber: maybe on a separate drive |
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| 00:40.29 | jlaw | my xorg crashes because it can't find some fonts o_O |
| 00:40.33 | muhoo | though yes, i should create a home partition too |
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| 00:41.01 | Amarande | Actually, this reminds me. |
| 00:41.07 | Amarande | What's the best way to partition an 80GB drive for Debian? |
| 00:41.18 | Brox | "Kein passendes Gerät gefunden" means: "no suitable device found" |
| 00:41.20 | itchi | jlaw: Are these fonts installed?? Or uncomment temporally the lines in the config ?? |
| 00:41.38 | cafuego | Brox: sicher, ja |
| 00:41.43 | Amarande | Brox: Heh, I've seen "Nicht gefunden" pretty often on German web pages. :) |
| 00:41.43 | ktwilight | jlaw, http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-fdbbfad9b02233b11ba1572a631827697766afc4 |
| 00:42.12 | cafuego | Amarande: Depends on the intende duse. For a desktop, 6 Gb /, 1 GB swap, rest /home |
| 00:42.24 | Brox | http://pastebin.ca/70938 |
| 00:42.27 | jlaw | ktwilight ... may you give me hint ... i don't want to go through that page with lynx |
| 00:42.46 | muhoo | my question was what size should i make these partitions? |
| 00:42.50 | ktwilight | jlaw, "If X reports missing fonts ("fixed" for example) when trying to start the x server, try purging the xfonts-base package. Note that this will remove all old font configuration from the machine. Use the --force-depends option to remove xfonts-base and all of its dependents (this includes xorg): dpkg --purge --force-depends xfonts-base" |
| 00:42.53 | Amarande | cafuego: mostly it's going to sit under this table looking pretty while I access it from upstairs over the LAN |
| 00:43.03 | muhoo | i'm tired of running out of room in /usr. for years i keep making it bigger and bigger, then it keeps filling up |
| 00:43.08 | Amarande | I suppose I could go with 78 GB / and 2 GB swap, but that's a bit extreme :) |
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| 00:43.27 | jlaw | ktwilight, thx |
| 00:43.29 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 00:43.49 | ktwilight | Brox, maybe an application is accessing the sound system? |
| 00:44.04 | ktwilight | or maybe your desktop environment is doing it? |
| 00:44.39 | jlaw | strike ... it works, thx ktwlight |
| 00:44.51 | muhoo | i'm thinking boot: 100m, / 1gb, /usr 180gb, /home 20gb, /tmp 10gb |
| 00:44.53 | ktwilight | np :) |
| 00:45.05 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.08 | Brox | ktwilight: Thats possible - is there a way to let every programm know theres no point accessing the soundcard because there is none? |
| 00:45.10 | Amarande | Yeah, don't forget /var |
| 00:45.26 | muhoo | var always keeps filling up too... that /var/cache/apt dir :-) |
| 00:45.29 | Amarande | I think all your unextracted debs are kept there :) |
| 00:45.42 | ktwilight | Brox, no idea. if it's KDE stuff, maybe look through their docs? not sure really. i hope this gives ya a lead to solve it though ;) |
| 00:45.48 | muhoo | ok, well, here i go |
| 00:46.01 | cafuego | Just empty out /var |
| 00:46.08 | ktwilight | Amarande, it really depends what the box is used for. |
| 00:46.32 | stoned | !tell rvgate -about sid faq |
| 00:46.38 | Brox | ktwilight: Isn't hope built on rational thought or at least personal experience? |
| 00:46.46 | Brox | ktwilight: i use gnome |
| 00:46.57 | ktwilight | hope is built on both. :) |
| 00:47.19 | ktwilight | i dunno 'bout gnome, but i'm guessing gnome is probably trying to access a sound module even though there isn't one. maybe #gnome may provide some answers? |
| 00:47.21 | Amarande | ktwilight: well, it's going to run BIND to provide caching DNS for the LAN, I'll be running some X clients on it (remote display), and otherwise mostly for geeking out. |
| 00:47.34 | Amarande | I'm debating moving DHCP away from the Linksys router and giving that duty to the Linux box. |
| 00:47.59 | Amarande | Probably more secure that way. |
| 00:48.03 | ktwilight | Amarande, so it's an acting server for development or anything related to it eh? |
| 00:48.14 | Amarande | Well, pretty much just a home LAN machine. |
| 00:48.20 | muhoo | ah, shit. swap |
| 00:48.23 | Amarande | I might do some software tinkering on it, too. |
| 00:48.30 | muhoo | i always run out of swap. i want like 5gb of swap |
| 00:48.40 | muhoo | actually 10gb of swap is probably a good idea |
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| 00:49.06 | Amarande | What's the usual yardstick for swap? Four times physical? |
| 00:49.27 | ktwilight | Amarande, no need hte complicated-load of partitions then. just go swap for 512mb (since ya aren't running alot, ya don't need alot), /tmp 'bout 512 too? ya aren't running graphics editors or burning, etc. /home give the most space. / 'bout 1g for apps, /var i would give quite graciously |
| 00:49.29 | Amarande | Or is it two times physical? |
| 00:49.40 | ktwilight | but for a server? that's alotta swap... |
| 00:49.56 | infernix | muhoo: 10GB? i wonder what on earth you are running that requires that much VM |
| 00:50.03 | ktwilight | 'xactly |
| 00:50.06 | ktwilight | such a big waste |
| 00:50.17 | infernix | muhoo: 2x internal ram is usually enough |
| 00:50.23 | ktwilight | i got 486mb of swap, and i'm running quite alot, and not even using 50mb. :/ |
| 00:50.43 | ktwilight | and i've 1g of ram running on this box, with 'bout 50% being used. |
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| 00:51.16 | dn4 | what are those hanging type of blinds you can walk through? |
| 00:51.17 | ktwilight | haven't try it when burning dvd/cds though, but i'm guessing it'll hold well. since my /tmp is catered for over a 1g. should do well. |
| 00:51.23 | dylan_ | how do i get firefox to print documents? i have cupsys installed but when i hit Print, nothing appears in the print queue |
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| 00:52.03 | zamolxes | dylan_: does print to file work? is xprint installed? details, details! |
| 00:52.15 | itchi | muhoo: Is that not _big_ /usr 180gb ?? |
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| 00:52.16 | dylan_ | zamolxes, no, xprint is not installed |
| 00:52.24 | beardy | dylan_: Perhaps/probably you have to tell firefox what to use to print. |
| 00:52.34 | dylan_ | beardy, lpr or lpd you mean? |
| 00:52.45 | beardy | dylan_: or cups, yes, but I don't know. |
| 00:52.48 | itchi | muhoo: Exchange /home 40GB (that are a bit to mush) with /usr 180GB ?? |
| 00:53.13 | dylan_ | beardy, i see ... because it wants to use lpr (according to that text box right below the "choose printer" dropdown box. |
| 00:53.16 | zamolxes | dylan_: afair , xprint is required |
| 00:53.25 | zamolxes | dylan_: i may be wrong though :) |
| 00:53.28 | itchi | muhoo: So that you have a bit an to big /usr (40GB) and an realy good /home of 180GB ? |
| 00:53.30 | ktwilight | for /usr 180g, that's alot..... |
| 00:53.45 | zamolxes | oh, i'm wrong |
| 00:53.46 | christor | Please if I want to planify a task all the 10 min I have to put */6 * * * * in the conrtba? |
| 00:53.56 | dylan_ | zamolxes, thank you so much. i hope this works in the future. |
| 00:53.57 | ktwilight | no need to partition /usr since it's just a lan server :/ |
| 00:54.02 | zamolxes | i don't have xprint, and I can print stuff |
| 00:54.05 | infernix | christor: no, */10 * * * * |
| 00:54.12 | christor | infernix: mmh ok thx |
| 00:54.18 | zamolxes | dylan_: well, does print to file work? |
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| 00:57.27 | muhoo | should i make my var and tmp systems journalling? |
| 00:57.51 | muhoo | i'm going to leave /boot, /, and /usr as ext2, and keep them read-only unless i'm installing stuff |
| 00:58.34 | muhoo | but var is most likely to need a fsck in case of a crash |
| 00:58.51 | muhoo | heh, crash. most of my debian boxen have 300+ day uptimes |
| 00:59.15 | ktwilight | why not ext3? |
| 00:59.41 | muhoo | to keep it from having to write a journal |
| 00:59.59 | muhoo | dunno, i suppose i could ext3 everything except boot |
| 01:00.16 | Amarande | How long does 80G take to fsck, anyway? :) |
| 01:00.27 | infernix | 2-6mins |
| 01:00.36 | muhoo | that could be a long time |
| 01:00.36 | cafuego | depends on the disk... about 5-10 mins if it's really full on a fast disk., |
| 01:00.57 | stoned | oh man, the new tool cd is AWESOME |
| 01:00.59 | cafuego | don't kake the mistake of enabling quota though :-) |
| 01:01.15 | muhoo | ah, fsck that, maybe i'll ext3 everything. it doesn't hurt if the fs is readonly anyway :-) |
| 01:01.34 | ktwilight | i guess... |
| 01:01.38 | ktwilight | i just use xfs for everything... |
| 01:01.39 | itchi | muhoo: What the final desision now of your partitions sizes? |
| 01:01.42 | ktwilight | so far so good... :) |
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| 01:02.29 | muhoo | itchi: /boot 100m, / 1gb, swap 10gb, /usr 180gb, /var 30gb, /home 20gb, /tmp 10gb |
| 01:02.32 | Amarande | And hopefully this machine never has any boot errors :/ |
| 01:02.40 | Amarande | I'll never see them if it does :/ |
| 01:02.40 | itchi | muhoo: Wait ... |
| 01:03.16 | muhoo | == 251.1, yes i know. the /tmp ended up around 9gb when fdisk was done with it :-) |
| 01:04.00 | itchi | muhoo: that / are realy to less, in short of time, it would probably out. That /usr are realy to big :-/. Why want you give so many space to /usr ? |
| 01:04.17 | muhoo | itchi: i install lots of software. |
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| 01:05.04 | muhoo | and, i have another 250gb drive just for user data... really nothing goes in /home |
| 01:05.58 | itchi | muhoo: Know you what your going to install ?? |
| 01:05.58 | itchi | muhoo: The repartitions of the diff size are realy bad :-/ |
| 01:05.59 | ktwilight | in windows, partitioning means more stress on the hdd whenever there's read/write. i wonder if it's the same for linux... |
| 01:06.02 | Amarande | Actually, to put this in perspective. |
| 01:06.10 | muhoo | repartitions? |
| 01:06.16 | itchi | muhoo: I guess, to keep it a bit secure, give an 1GB to / like you wipe space out the window for nothing, are a bit generous with the / |
| 01:06.24 | Amarande | How much diskspace would installing the largest possible set of Sarge (that doesn't result in package conflicts, of course) take? |
| 01:06.42 | muhoo | ah, good point. / is currently 200mb now |
| 01:07.09 | cafuego | Amarande: That can't be calculated in less than about a year. |
| 01:07.10 | itchi | muhoo: Personnaly i not give the size you have give to the diffs partitions |
| 01:07.11 | Amarande | I tend to over allocate to /, mainly because I worry that some directory I didn't give a partition to might overflow it. |
| 01:07.20 | muhoo | dunno. i have stuff in /usr/local/[bin|share|doc] too |
| 01:07.26 | itchi | arg, bad bad, im :-/ |
| 01:07.39 | Amarande | And then I'd have to do kludges like symbolically linking major system directories into other parts of the filesystem. |
| 01:07.42 | muhoo | really |
| 01:07.50 | itchi | muhoo: I mean for some things your to generous and for others not :-/ |
| 01:08.02 | Amarande | Oh, by the way, DO NOT resize partitions. |
| 01:08.02 | muhoo | itchi: ok, what would be your recommendation then? |
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| 01:08.08 | Amarande | At least, DO NOT RESIZE LOGICAL PARTITIONS |
| 01:08.28 | muhoo | Amarande: i never do that. i remove drive and buy another :-) |
| 01:08.34 | ktwilight | why's that Amarande? |
| 01:08.47 | Amarande | ktwilight: I've seen Debian's partitioner hose partition tables doing that |
| 01:08.55 | Amarande | That's how I got overlapping partitions once :P |
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| 01:09.21 | ktwilight | ouch |
| 01:09.31 | ktwilight | which fs was it? |
| 01:09.38 | Amarande | Well, it was going to be /var. |
| 01:09.50 | Amarande | But the drive was partitioned from scratch again after that, since I was still diagnosing the disk problem. |
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| 01:10.08 | ktwilight | i meant was it ext2? ext3? reiserfs, xfs, etc...? |
| 01:10.17 | Supaplex | pfmfs |
| 01:10.24 | ktwilight | .. |
| 01:10.31 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 01:10.34 | itchi | muhoo: /boot 500 MB, / 5gb, /usr 20gb, /home X gb, /tmp x gb, and a bit lefted space to mount it when your out of space on an partition, so that you could mount an empty (leaved) one |
| 01:10.44 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 01:11.15 | muhoo | itchi: thanks |
| 01:11.36 | itchi | muhoo: I hope you understand the last part of my phrase :-/ |
| 01:11.43 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.00 | ktwilight | there's also the infamous /var/logs :) |
| 01:12.35 | muhoo | i put /var on a separate partition |
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| 01:13.07 | Amarande | ktwilight: all the fs's were ext3 |
| 01:13.11 | muhoo | if it gets FUBARed i can just blow it away, my / is still there |
| 01:13.13 | Amarande | though I think by that point it was more like hosedfs |
| 01:13.22 | ktwilight | hha |
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| 01:13.56 | ktwilight | i dunno 'bout /boot mucho. is it necessary? |
| 01:14.04 | Amarande | Is 20GB really big enough for /usr? |
| 01:14.10 | Amarande | How quickly does that fill up? |
| 01:14.16 | muhoo | when TSHTF, as long as i can get grub, a kernel, and bash to load, i'm fine. |
| 01:14.26 | muhoo | i don't have to get up and GO to the machine, i can use the serial console. |
| 01:14.35 | itchi | muhoo: libs can take many space, like you told you would like install _many_ software, keep it a _bit_ to big is not catastrofic, but that /usr of 180 GB :-/ |
| 01:14.43 | ktwilight | ah...i see muhoo... |
| 01:14.44 | muhoo | ah |
| 01:14.51 | ktwilight | must be good practise to have /boot then |
| 01:14.55 | Amarande | Maybe I should put this differently. |
| 01:15.01 | Amarande | What's the total size of Sarge, unpacked? |
| 01:15.02 | stoned | my 400gb sata drive is almost full |
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| 01:15.05 | infernix | on 90% of my boxes, / is 1GB, /usr 20GB, /var 20GB, /tmp 2gb and all extra space goes to /home. i have never ran out of space in /usr yet. |
| 01:15.08 | stoned | all it has it pr0n |
| 01:15.10 | stoned | :/ |
| 01:15.14 | ktwilight | with or without all the packages? |
| 01:15.24 | muhoo | infernix: thanks |
| 01:15.54 | muhoo | stoned: the pr0n and mp3s are on a separate 250gb drive :-) |
| 01:16.12 | muhoo | infernix: thanks |
| 01:16.15 | infernix | that said, shares on fileservers, websites on webservers and data on desktop boxes go into /home. but it really doesn't matter how you do it, its personal preference in the end |
| 01:16.35 | stoned | I just have a /boot and a /etc and /usr and /home |
| 01:16.35 | ktwilight | *nods* |
| 01:16.39 | itchi | hehe pr0n, lol |
| 01:16.42 | stoned | everything else goes in / |
| 01:16.47 | stoned | partition wise |
| 01:16.54 | ktwilight | i've only got /tmp /home and / haha |
| 01:17.00 | stoned | what is /haha |
| 01:17.03 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:17.05 | DerJamster | got /, /boot and /home. :> |
| 01:17.12 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 01:17.16 | muhoo | i remember working at a company in 1994 that had a whole sun4 fileserver with massive raid, dedicated to pr0n |
| 01:17.25 | Amarande | actually, given that even a full set of Sarge CDs weighs in at only about 8GB, I guess 20GB really is enough for /usr |
| 01:17.36 | DerJamster | Well |
| 01:17.38 | cafuego | muhoo: that's called an nntp server ;-) |
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| 01:17.53 | infernix | a client called us recently, complaining that they couldnt use the samba share and that mail didnt work. told them to remove 20GB of pron. |
| 01:17.53 | Amarande | nah, nntp servers are about half pr0n and half warez |
| 01:17.57 | infernix | pron really is the root of all evil. |
| 01:17.59 | DerJamster | my / is 5 gb, my /boot is 15mb and my /home's the rest of the hdd. and / is filled with 2.5 gb :P |
| 01:18.02 | muhoo | cafuego: heh |
| 01:18.03 | cafuego | Amarande: Keep in mind that you can always use symlinks and bind mounts. |
| 01:18.05 | stoned | no it isn't |
| 01:18.10 | stoned | censorship is |
| 01:18.14 | muhoo | now that i think of it, /usr/src can get MIGHTY portly |
| 01:18.22 | Amarande | muhoo: it can? |
| 01:18.24 | DerJamster | Amarande: 20gb for /usr is....alot :P |
| 01:18.31 | stoned | look at europe, and compare it with say, USA or Saudi Arabia or The Vatican |
| 01:18.35 | Amarande | usually I keep source in my home directory |
| 01:18.42 | muhoo | yeah, compiling kernels, etc. and if you do all your apt-get source'ing in there |
| 01:18.42 | Amarande | mostly because I tend not to do much compiling as root |
| 01:18.47 | stoned | they embrace what is taboo to us |
| 01:18.53 | stoned | they live healthier lives |
| 01:18.56 | stoned | :D |
| 01:18.59 | cafuego | Amarande: I have a 10GB /, 1 GB swap and 150 GB /raid with symlinks to whereever needed. |
| 01:19.35 | Amarande | Now if I was using FreeBSD, /usr/src probably would be a big thing. |
| 01:19.39 | muhoo | cafuego: i've had massive tangles of symlinks in the past, when i was dirt poor. nowadays i can go buy a new drive if i outgrow my partition scheme or my drives |
| 01:19.57 | stoned | I need a couple of more 400gb drives |
| 01:20.05 | cafuego | muhoo: I use symlinks regardless of how big the drives are. |
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| 01:20.18 | cafuego | muhoo: Drives may be cheap, but wasting 250GB on /boot is dumb ;-) |
| 01:20.24 | muhoo | also in 1994, i remember people laughing at the concept of "terabytes" |
| 01:20.35 | Amarande | I remember when Exabyte was just a brand. |
| 01:20.37 | stoned | why a 250gb boot |
| 01:20.43 | stoned | my /boot is no more than a few mb |
| 01:20.43 | Amarande | Now it's probably possible to set up a cluster with that much space. :) |
| 01:21.13 | Amarande | (Don't worry about the cost of building it. The power bill will make it look like buying a kid a lollipop. :) |
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| 01:21.21 | DerJamster | Heck, with a single good sata controller you get 4 TB on a normal box. |
| 01:21.26 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.27 | infernix | why use /boot on a partition anyway when / is a 1gb partition |
| 01:21.43 | stoned | why use anything at all |
| 01:21.43 | muhoo | infernix: paranoia, really |
| 01:21.43 | itchi | infernix: A point |
| 01:21.51 | Amarande | Actually, a cluster with an exabyte of space might require that you commission the building of your own nuclear plant, I suppose. :) |
| 01:21.54 | DerJamster | infernix: I tend to keep it unmounted on my server ;) |
| 01:22.08 | muhoo | Amarande: i though exabyte was an 8mm tape drive? |
| 01:22.17 | Amarande | muhoo: exa- is also a SI prefix |
| 01:22.37 | muhoo | i gathered that :-) |
| 01:22.38 | infernix | DerJamster: something to say for that approach indeed |
| 01:22.54 | Amarande | An exabyte would be about 1,000,000 TB |
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| 01:23.12 | stoned | in a few hundrd years we will require that much space |
| 01:23.17 | muhoo | ok folks, thanks for help. i'm off to the land of fun with fdisk and chroot |
| 01:23.25 | stoned | at leat in the coming space age we will |
| 01:23.57 | stoned | or maybe towards the end of the digital age |
| 01:23.59 | infernix | stoned: for what, TomTom Navigator Intergalactive Edition? |
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| 01:24.08 | infernix | *intergalactic |
| 01:24.18 | Amarande | infernix: you need an exabyte or more to store the full edition of your Hitchhiker's Guide |
| 01:24.20 | stoned | intergalatic, no, not for a couple of thousand years |
| 01:24.27 | stoned | inter planetary maybe |
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| 01:25.01 | infernix | video and audio wont need that amount of data increase. theres limits as to when that data increase is still useful with regards to human perception limits. |
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| 01:25.26 | stoned | immagine star wars |
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| 01:25.37 | stoned | charing out the known universe, mapping it out |
| 01:25.50 | stoned | that alone would require like a bajilliion exabytes |
| 01:25.53 | infernix | you mean star trek |
| 01:26.07 | stoned | no, star wars, jedi archives |
| 01:26.36 | stoned | imaginate lol |
| 01:26.57 | evaded | :-) |
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| 01:27.23 | Amarande | stoned: by then you might even need yottabytes |
| 01:29.34 | stoned | my sci fi story is about humans 75 billion years from now, highly evolved, and half the universe is dead. Not enough hydrogen left to keep anything going. Humans have found a way to generate an artificial big bang, inside of a singularity in an already existing blackhole, and move into that universe when it cools down enough to make baby galaxies |
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| 01:29.45 | stoned | thus, making them ever living |
| 01:30.08 | stoned | they would never run out of consumable energy, they can create universes at will, and use the power of every star in that universe |
| 01:30.19 | sartek | is there a command which is checking the installed package, is complet or corrupted? i mean if i deleted a file or more can reinstall it |
| 01:30.21 | stoned | lotta things I have not worked out yet |
| 01:30.50 | stoned | sartek, man apt-get search for --reinstall |
| 01:32.49 | stoned | sartek, I don't know about checking the package except for md5 |
| 01:32.54 | stoned | like about missing files or whatever |
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| 01:34.56 | sartek | stoned: my n00b friend on a server deleted some files in /bin i'm on the server with ssh.. and i want to repair.. for examle gzip :) (requested by man) (sorry for my english) |
| 01:35.13 | SerajewelKS | sartek: don't give noobs root |
| 01:35.36 | sartek | SerajewelKS: he is the owner of the server:) |
| 01:35.49 | SerajewelKS | sartek: sounds like he shouldn't be running servers... |
| 01:36.07 | SerajewelKS | !tell sartek about reinstall everything |
| 01:36.34 | sartek | SerajewelKS: he has money, i have some experience in linux :) |
| 01:36.39 | sartek | SerajewelKS: thx |
| 01:38.41 | Amarande | Does it really cost that much these days? |
| 01:38.51 | Amarande | I've seen dedicateds for only about $100 a month some places. |
| 01:39.16 | Amarande | Heck, even I could afford $100 a month, and I work in retail. :) |
| 01:39.34 | abrotman | retail what? |
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| 01:41.36 | Amarande | abrotman: Groceries. |
| 01:41.41 | Amarande | I get 10$ an hour currently. |
| 01:41.50 | abrotman | you live with parental units? |
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| 01:42.44 | Amarande | Yeah, I do. |
| 01:43.04 | abrotman | that's a bit different than someone who makes $10/hour and has to pay a substantial rent amount |
| 01:43.07 | Amarande | I consider it better than the alternative, which is paying rents high enough to make me feel like I'm being ripped off |
| 01:43.25 | Amarande | My folks pay about 500$ a month for a mortgage, which means they'll own the house in a couple years more or so. |
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| 01:43.43 | Amarande | If I moved out, I'd have to pay about 1000$ a month for rent, which means it's wasted money at the end of the month :P |
| 01:44.08 | abrotman | darn city rent |
| 01:44.26 | Supaplex | and your landlord keeps the investment. |
| 01:44.50 | abrotman | eh .. not an investment |
| 01:45.01 | b1rken | 2on2 skilled harserver |
| 01:45.07 | b1rken | omg, sorry |
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| 01:46.06 | k-man_ | whats the debian way of allowing non local users access the the mysql database? |
| 01:46.21 | k-man_ | ie, to allow access to mysql from a different machine |
| 01:46.23 | abrotman | same as any other distro ? |
| 01:46.31 | k-man_ | which is? |
| 01:47.40 | Amarande | k-man: have them ssh in? |
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| 01:47.54 | abrotman | i think he means to have the query the mysql db from a remote location |
| 01:48.01 | infernix | k-man: grant all privileges on 'database' for '[user]'@'%' identified by 'password'. in mysql ofcourse. |
| 01:48.24 | infernix | k-man: where % is all ips, you can add a specific ip or hostname instead of % |
| 01:48.35 | k-man_ | no, its more a bind-address problem i think |
| 01:48.41 | k-man_ | as its currently bound to localhost |
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| 01:48.51 | infernix | ah. edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and remove skip-networking line |
| 01:48.52 | k-man_ | i'll change it to bind to the eth0 address |
| 01:48.57 | k-man_ | oh |
| 01:48.58 | k-man_ | ok |
| 01:49.09 | abrotman | i'm sure the mysql docs handle auth from a remote location |
| 01:49.25 | k-man_ | infernix, the skip-networking thing is depricated |
| 01:49.34 | k-man_ | its now a bind-address thing aparantly |
| 01:49.39 | infernix | k-man: probably stated in the my.cnf :) |
| 01:50.10 | infernix | abrotman, do an estimated guess how many questions asked here should be answered by RTFM :) |
| 01:50.33 | abrotman | infernix: 75% |
| 01:50.43 | abrotman | ok .. maybe 50% |
| 01:50.50 | k-man_ | all questions asked here "could" be answered with rtfm |
| 01:50.52 | abrotman | and that's by an easy RTFM |
| 01:50.57 | k-man_ | but does that really help anyone? |
| 01:51.03 | abrotman | k-man_: maybe not all |
| 01:51.31 | abrotman | k-man_: honestly .. there's a section in the mysql manual about granting remote access.. if you need me to .. i'll go to mysql.com and glance at the docs and find it |
| 01:51.52 | zenwryly | Is there a way to pass more than one address-command pair to a sed command on the CLI? |
| 01:52.01 | k-man_ | abrotman, its not about the permisions though |
| 01:52.08 | Supaplex | most every table in the 'mysql' database has a host field |
| 01:52.19 | k-man_ | its about which interface mysql is listening on... |
| 01:52.22 | abrotman | k-man_: there's accepting TCP connections .. and then there's granting remote permissions |
| 01:52.35 | k-man_ | abrotman, yes, i agree |
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| 01:52.51 | k-man_ | i have already established that it wasn't accepting connections |
| 01:52.59 | infernix | the thing with RTFM is that if someone already has, thats a quicker solution. and where time = money we should get payd for it tbh:) |
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| 01:53.35 | abrotman | k-man_: then there should be something in the my.cnf |
| 01:53.40 | k-man_ | also, the thing with rtfm, is one may not always even know where to start looking |
| 01:54.03 | abrotman | k-man_: and that's how we arrive at RTFM questions :) |
| 01:54.04 | k-man_ | and imho, its no harder to say to someone "rtfm" than to say "try searching for xyz" if one happens to know that |
| 01:55.00 | k-man_ | and as it happens, i already had the necessary permisions in my database for the remote user |
| 01:55.27 | k-man_ | and often with debian, i find there is a "Debian" way to do something, or you can dive into the config file and edit it yourself |
| 01:55.30 | infernix | k-man: thats the thing. the ability to process information quick and efficiently. doesn't work for many people that I know, personally |
| 01:55.35 | k-man_ | only to find later you could have done it the "Debian" way |
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| 01:55.58 | infernix | but fortunately helping out others gives this warm fuzzy feeling inside ;) |
| 01:56.09 | k-man_ | infernix, i agree |
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| 01:56.18 | abrotman | infernix: it does? |
| 01:56.23 | k-man_ | i never understand why people often respond to questions with hostility |
| 01:56.38 | k-man_ | imho, one should either answer if one knows the answer, or just stay silent |
| 01:56.40 | infernix | for me, yea. not always but thats a state of mind thing for me |
| 01:56.45 | k-man_ | hostile answers don't help anyone |
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| 01:59.26 | dylan_ | Why doesn't the FSF support Debian? The main repository is only free software. |
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| 02:01.29 | abrotman | dylan_: i would guess the DFSG doesn't work with FSF goals (not to mention contrib/non-free) .. you could ask this question to debian-user mailing ilst also |
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| 02:01.44 | dylan_ | k |
| 02:01.46 | dylan_ | thanks |
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| 02:07.30 | pjv | is there a program in linux that is similar to myob? |
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| 02:09.25 | f00li5h | does there exist a bootable (ether|pxe)boot server that hands out debian installers? |
| 02:09.51 | f00li5h | i have boxen that lack cdrom drives, and wish to networkboot-and-install 'em |
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| 02:12.49 | abrotman | f00li5h: no floppy drive? |
| 02:13.23 | nvz | oh well I guess I got to get home and feed my cats |
| 02:14.03 | f00li5h | abrotman: nope |
| 02:14.19 | abrotman | !rube goldberg install |
| 02:14.20 | f00li5h | abrotman: just an ide disk, and a couple of lan cards. |
| 02:14.20 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 02:14.30 | nvz | it was real fun half solving problems here today :P |
| 02:14.38 | abrotman | f00li5h: you'll have to setup your own pxe server to install them |
| 02:14.44 | f00li5h | abrotman: i see. |
| 02:15.16 | f00li5h | abrotman: it has usb, but not that it can boot from, unless i mis-understand the bios |
| 02:15.27 | f00li5h | ok, so how would one go about setting up a pxe server? |
| 02:15.38 | abrotman | should be in the install guide |
| 02:15.39 | abrotman | !ig |
| 02:15.40 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 02:15.47 | f00li5h | i see |
| 02:15.51 | f00li5h | i will view this |
| 02:16.11 | nvz | hmm I wish I would have read the /topic sooner.. seems like some important news I wasnt aware of. |
| 02:16.20 | abrotman | nvz: such as? |
| 02:16.26 | abrotman | nvz: this is not #ubuntu ? |
| 02:16.38 | nvz | no about irc.debian.org |
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| 02:16.39 | f00li5h | yeah, that gets me every time |
| 02:16.50 | abrotman | nvz: yeah .. the CNAME moved |
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| 02:17.37 | abrotman | !phillysmite jerware |
| 02:17.58 | nvz | hmm, would have been nice to get my local mirror straightened out today but I got a call for tech support that sidtracked me |
| 02:18.20 | abrotman | tech support? |
| 02:18.23 | nvz | I got about 6.5gb of packages in /srv/apt/ but no package/release files and I still cant figure that crap out |
| 02:18.38 | nvz | yeah my uncle called to bug me about windows problems.. what else is new |
| 02:18.46 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:18.52 | f00li5h | abrotman: that trigger sends me to a 404 |
| 02:18.56 | abrotman | nvz: are you back in vermont now ? |
| 02:19.00 | nvz | heh |
| 02:19.00 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: even after a couple of hours of memtest86, the p3-550 doesn't get above 36C. i actually took the heatsink off to feel if it was hot and it was just warmish. |
| 02:19.03 | abrotman | f00li5h: which one / |
| 02:19.05 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:19.10 | nvz | I've never been to vermont |
| 02:19.22 | f00li5h | abrotman: sorry, i looked again, and it was going to |
| 02:19.27 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: i'm not surprised ... it's one of the lower versions of the PIII |
| 02:19.30 | f00li5h | installmanual and choose your arch |
| 02:19.31 | infernix | fhffhqvb: fyi, theres a cpu burn test app as well. memtest doesnt do much for cpu temperatures |
| 02:19.33 | f00li5h | my bad |
| 02:19.36 | nvz | not even sure where that is right now, but maybe its just cause I am tired and been in front of the montior too long |
| 02:19.40 | f00li5h | i must have grabbed the whole line |
| 02:19.48 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: but a p2-266 gets fucking hot |
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| 02:20.14 | iLLf8d | lo all |
| 02:20.26 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: the P90s used to get really hot too |
| 02:20.42 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: not as hot as p60's |
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| 02:20.52 | abrotman | no .. but still hot |
| 02:21.10 | nvz | I burned up a PII before with a heat sink.. I was just using it to turn on the power supply so I could use it for something else ... heh the thing had a duct with a large fan in the case, but I just had it propped up against the table at the time with no fan on it |
| 02:21.21 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: slot1 or socket370 ? |
| 02:21.30 | nvz | I needed 12vdc and didnt have a better idea |
| 02:21.32 | abrotman | slotA .. whatever it was called |
| 02:21.34 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: 370 |
| 02:21.55 | f00li5h | abrotman: what part of this 1000 page manual will tell me how to set up a pxe boot server to share install images? |
| 02:21.55 | abrotman | the PIII 500 slot1 needed a big heatsink |
| 02:22.05 | abrotman | f00li5h: the good part! :) |
| 02:22.12 | f00li5h | abrotman: do go on |
| 02:22.14 | fhffhqvb | nvz: you could have used an AT PSU |
| 02:22.21 | nvz | yeah well I didnt have one |
| 02:22.27 | fhffhqvb | nvz: you bastard |
| 02:22.32 | nvz | those things are hard to find these days |
| 02:22.45 | abrotman | f00li5h: let me look |
| 02:22.49 | fhffhqvb | i have several. they're COMPAQs |
| 02:22.52 | f00li5h | abrotman: thanks |
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| 02:23.21 | jerware | fellaz. |
| 02:23.22 | nvz | I remember those huge IBM XT psus.. big red switch on the side.. heh |
| 02:23.26 | abrotman | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en |
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| 02:23.34 | abrotman | !phillysmite jerware |
| 02:23.41 | f00li5h | i loved those switches |
| 02:23.49 | fhffhqvb | i have some XT's somewhere |
| 02:24.20 | jerware | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7tWntO76.html my cdrom drive is failing to mount all of a sudden |
| 02:24.20 | jerware | it was just working yesterday. |
| 02:24.29 | fhffhqvb | at least with an AT PSU you know it's fucking OFF when you turn it off. with ATX, it's still slurping 5 watts in "off" mode |
| 02:24.35 | f00li5h | abrotman: the automatic installation using the debian instlaler part interests me |
| 02:24.37 | nvz | heh, yeah brings back memories of when I used to have to dial up bbs's and chat using a telnet terminal.. and the most ammusing things to do were write viruses to crash your os |
| 02:24.43 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:24.45 | jerware | if it worked in an other computer, should i get a new mother board? |
| 02:24.50 | f00li5h | jerware: just lower the lights, and get a good bottle of wine. |
| 02:24.56 | jerware | what does this mean, hda: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 02:24.57 | jerware | hda: command error: error=0x50 ? |
| 02:25.13 | fhffhqvb | jerware: it probably means you have a maxtor |
| 02:25.15 | f00li5h | jerware: are you using a disk that it hates? |
| 02:25.26 | nvz | of course I never actually used the XT it was just a paperweight I went straight from things like the TI99/4a, AtariPC, Apple IIc.. to a 286 |
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| 02:26.20 | sartek | some tipp how can i resolv this?: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend perl-base for debconf, probably a dependency cycle. i tried reinstall debconf and perl-base but no success |
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| 02:26.43 | nvz | maybe I did have an XT running at one time, I cant remember. it wasnt original equipment if I did I am sure |
| 02:26.59 | f00li5h | sartek: you may have to set APT::Force-LoopBreak |
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| 02:27.07 | nvz | oh well I better go my cats dont know how to work the can opener |
| 02:27.12 | f00li5h | but that's often a bad thing |
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| 02:28.25 | sartek | f00li5h: thx i try it |
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| 02:31.09 | sartek | f00li5h: i tried but the same thing :S |
| 02:31.34 | f00li5h | hrm |
| 02:31.57 | f00li5h | apt-get -f install ? |
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| 02:33.10 | abrotman | this should get interesting |
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| 02:34.03 | sartek | f00li5h: what? i must "reinstall everything" :S |
| 02:34.09 | liable | wtf |
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| 02:34.22 | sartek | read the log :P |
| 02:34.39 | liable | why did Astinus just kill lilo.. |
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| 02:34.59 | abrotman | ask lilo or somegeek |
| 02:35.04 | cafuego | coz grub is better |
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| 02:35.16 | liable | no, i would rather speculate :P |
| 02:37.04 | Amarande | I thought lilo was the head of freenode? :) |
| 02:38.00 | AlienX | lilo is the man |
| 02:38.15 | Supaplex | man? it's superhuman! |
| 02:38.28 | Supaplex | er, he :P |
| 02:38.43 | Amarande | Okay, I really should set up Sarge, but part of me keeps wanting to go with FreeBSD. |
| 02:38.44 | Amarande | Sigh. |
| 02:38.59 | cafuego | So run freebsd in vmware under sarge. |
| 02:39.16 | Supaplex | or use #gnu-kbsd |
| 02:39.20 | abrotman | cafuego: bored? |
| 02:39.50 | Amarande | I think it's mostly though peer pressure from someone on another net who said Debian was disorganized. |
| 02:40.03 | Amarande | Why do I even listen to people like that, though? :) |
| 02:40.10 | Amarande | Sarge it is. |
| 02:40.24 | Amarande | Okay, time to actually get this thing set up before next century. |
| 02:40.44 | cafuego | abrotman: howso? |
| 02:40.50 | abrotman | cafuego: joking? |
| 02:40.55 | cafuego | abrotman: howso? |
| 02:41.04 | abrotman | cafuego: i meant .. i was joking |
| 02:41.08 | cafuego | abrotman: howso? |
| 02:41.21 | abrotman | that you were bored |
| 02:41.21 | cafuego | abrotman: yes, btw ;-) |
| 02:41.33 | abrotman | you mean it wasn't fun ? |
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| 02:42.23 | cafuego | abrotman: I expect freebsd under vmware to be less fun than openbsd under evmware |
| 02:42.50 | abrotman | cafuego: can you make dragonfly work ? |
| 02:43.06 | cafuego | abrotman: Not without the cat just eating it |
| 02:43.18 | abrotman | cafuego: damn cats |
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| 02:44.58 | jlamr | I think when I installed apache on my debian box, it did something to my prompt. It's my ip or mac address something but I have I new ip now. How can I update it? |
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| 02:45.39 | f00li5h | abrotman: so which bit was it? since i don't see anything that screams out ``soloution to f00li5h's silly problems'' |
| 02:46.08 | abrotman | f00li5h: you have to setup a tftp server .. then try to get the boxes to use PXE to boot/install from that |
| 02:46.29 | f00li5h | abrotman: ok, so i need to take over the dhcp too |
| 02:46.37 | abrotman | kind of |
| 02:47.00 | f00li5h | well, i don't think that my adsl modem is going to tell a pxe booting box to ask my laptop for an image otherwise |
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| 02:47.20 | cafuego | f00li5h: Nope, it really isn't. |
| 02:47.41 | abrotman | mmm .. PXE .. the last great mystery |
| 02:47.46 | cafuego | f00li5h: Check the LTSP docs on excellent PXE/dhcp/tftp info. |
| 02:48.11 | f00li5h | i see |
| 02:48.14 | samigaru | exit |
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| 02:53.08 | jlamr | OK, then, so can anyone tell where the prompt settings are in debian? |
| 02:53.32 | cafuego | jlamr: echo $PS1 |
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| 02:54.11 | jlamr | right, where do I go to change it? |
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| 02:54.36 | wilfredor | Help!!!. I can't load my X, I have that error -->> "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy /// xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice " |
| 02:54.52 | abrotman | modprobe mousedev |
| 02:56.00 | wilfredor | abrotman, FATAL: module mousedev not found |
| 02:56.26 | dvs | wilfredor: uname -a |
| 02:56.48 | abrotman | wilfredor: did you compile your own ekernel? |
| 02:57.08 | wilfredor | 2.6.16-2-k7 |
| 02:57.29 | lilo | Astinus mistabbed 8) |
| 02:57.31 | wilfredor | no abrotman, that is a precompiled kernel for k7 |
| 02:57.47 | abrotman | eh .. it has mousedev |
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| 02:59.27 | wilfredor | abrotman, wich is that package? |
| 02:59.40 | abrotman | dude .. it's in your kernel .. |
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| 03:00.52 | wilfredor | abrotman, I changed my serial mouse for a usb mouse |
| 03:00.59 | wilfredor | and show that error |
| 03:01.09 | abrotman | mousedev is the module you want |
| 03:01.11 | abrotman | !usb mouse |
| 03:01.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, usb mouse is "MAKEDEV input", or apt-get install kernel-doc-`uname -r` && zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-`uname -r`/Documentation/usb/input.txt.gz or ask me about "usbmouse" |
| 03:01.15 | abrotman | eh .. not it |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | !usbmouse |
| 03:01.17 | dpkg | methinks usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 03:01.23 | EdLin | jlamr: just change that environmental variable. With bash and other bourne-shells it's done by setting the variable and exporting it. |
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| 03:04.32 | jlamr | right, my main issue is that it's giving the hostname. That's fine but the hostname is wrong. Server still works, but i feel i should update it at least if possible |
| 03:04.34 | wilfredor | dpkg, nothing |
| 03:04.35 | dpkg | somebody said nothing was the most important thing ever. |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 03:04.45 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 03:04.55 | wilfredor | dpkg, the error is already |
| 03:04.55 | dpkg | ...but error is already something else... |
| 03:05.03 | abrotman | wilfredor: stop talking to the bot |
| 03:05.04 | dvs | hahahahaha |
| 03:05.13 | dvs | abrotman: oh come on! |
| 03:05.20 | wilfredor | abrotman, I am sorry, my spanish is bad |
| 03:05.24 | abrotman | !es |
| 03:05.25 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:05.29 | wilfredor | abrotman, I am sorry, my english is bad |
| 03:06.00 | EdLin | PS1=foo ; export PS1 (with bash, zsh, and ksh that can be one step: export=FOO) |
| 03:06.01 | wilfredor | dpkg, #debian-es is a bad room |
| 03:06.02 | dpkg | ...but #debian-es is already something else... |
| 03:06.14 | EdLin | er, export PS1=foo |
| 03:06.15 | abrotman | wilfredor: stop talking to dpkg .. he's a bot |
| 03:06.26 | wilfredor | abrotman, ok, thanks |
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| 03:06.46 | jlamr | or /msg dpkg |
| 03:07.28 | wilfredor | please, help me |
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| 03:07.33 | wilfredor | Help!!!. I can't load my X, I have that error -->> "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy /// xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice " |
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| 03:08.06 | yuheng108 | can xmms play wmv files? |
| 03:08.24 | EdLin | yuheng108: mplayer with w32codecs can |
| 03:08.33 | Zerial | and mplayer xmms plugin.. |
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| 03:09.08 | yuheng108 | how do I set it up? |
| 03:09.14 | wilfredor | I need change from serial mouse to USB mouse |
| 03:09.30 | Zerial | how can i solve this problem: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080f0938 *** |
| 03:09.37 | EdLin | yuheng108: most people apt-get mplayer from marillat |
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| 03:09.44 | EdLin | !tell yuheng108 -about marillat |
| 03:09.47 | Zerial | wilfredor, mmmm |
| 03:10.10 | yuheng108 | I have mpaly movie play, is that hte same one? |
| 03:10.12 | Zerial | wilfredor, what's your problem? |
| 03:10.46 | wilfredor | Zerial, I had changed my serial mouse for a usb mouse and startx show that error |
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| 03:10.54 | wilfredor | "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy /// xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice " |
| 03:11.09 | EdLin | yuheng108: get something like mplayer-586, from marillat, and at the same time get w32codecs |
| 03:11.16 | Zerial | did you configure your xorg.conf ? |
| 03:11.39 | wilfredor | Zerial, yes |
| 03:11.45 | yuheng108 | what is marillat? |
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| 03:11.54 | zamolxes | yuheng108: debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 03:12.13 | EdLin | yuheng108: I just told dpkg to let you know |
| 03:12.20 | EdLin | !tell yuheng108 -about marillat |
| 03:12.42 | Zerial | wilfredor, uname -r |
| 03:13.00 | yuheng108 | oo, that's what it is, cool, Igot you |
| 03:13.00 | yuheng108 | thanks |
| 03:13.07 | wilfredor | 2.6.17-2-k7 |
| 03:13.09 | EdLin | yw |
| 03:13.20 | Zerial | wilfredor, join to #flood |
| 03:13.25 | yuheng108 | EdLin, can you tell me the basic commands for this IRC thing? |
| 03:13.45 | EdLin | yuheng108: what client are you using? |
| 03:13.58 | yuheng108 | xchat |
| 03:14.28 | EdLin | yuheng108: well, with xchat all you need to do to see a msg is to click on the window's button |
| 03:14.52 | EdLin | yuheng108: I use irssi-text, but maybe you should use xchat until you become more familiar with irc |
| 03:16.14 | yuheng108 | oicic |
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| 03:19.53 | go_socceroos | Can anyone tell me why my KDE desktop has two menus on it: Debian and then all the rest? Many apps have two entries and some only have one. |
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| 03:20.15 | sortadi | because there are KDE apps |
| 03:20.26 | sortadi | and apps that are not KDE |
| 03:20.40 | sortadi | so they could either go into KDE menu or Debian menu |
| 03:20.42 | sortadi | or both |
| 03:20.49 | Amarande | Okay. Now that alviarin is up and running. |
| 03:20.59 | go_socceroos | but why the two menus? |
| 03:21.02 | Amarande | -Exactly- which packages are required to run X programs when the display will be remote? |
| 03:21.21 | Amarande | Also, is there an environment variable I can use to conveniently have X programs prefer a particular display? |
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| 03:21.29 | sortadi | go_socceroos: Debian menu is like the OS... "Universal" |
| 03:21.42 | sortadi | go_socceroos: KDE menu is just KDE menu |
| 03:22.43 | justin | Amarande: xbase-clients and some fonts are the only packages you might need to install manually |
| 03:22.59 | justin | Amarande: x-window-system-core works too |
| 03:23.30 | iLLf8d | is unstable xorg stuffs fixed yet? |
| 03:23.40 | iLLf8d | for a while there they were hosed enough to break x |
| 03:24.23 | go_socceroos | sortadi, OK. Debian and KDE. But if you can see from my point of view. I just want a menu with all my multimedia on it or all my viewers on it. I don't want to be switching around looking for a particular app. |
| 03:24.25 | yuheng108 | EdLin, I still don't understand how to get xmms to play wmv file |
| 03:24.35 | Amarande | Okay, this is also a bit touchy. |
| 03:24.52 | Amarande | I just edited my /etc/network/interfaces so alviarin has a static address on the LAN. |
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| 03:25.05 | Amarande | Now, is there a command I can pass as root to cycle the interface that will ENSURE it comes back up? |
| 03:25.11 | sortadi | go_socceroos: you can edit KDE menu manually to have what you wish |
| 03:25.14 | dhuv | hello all, I have a couple of questions regarding my debian system |
| 03:25.18 | Amarande | Since I'm going to get disconnected from my shell as soon as ifdown fires, of course. |
| 03:25.19 | sortadi | go_socceroos: that's the beauty of gnu/linux :D |
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| 03:25.28 | dhuv | first, is it OK to turn off syslog on a SLOW computer with SLOW ide drives? |
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| 03:25.39 | Amarande | Is ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 sufficient, or will ifup eth0 never get seen because the disconnect will occur first? |
| 03:26.47 | go_socceroos | sortadi thank you. I think Gnu/linux is beautiful too ... Can I edit a preference with apt-get to do this for me? |
| 03:27.20 | sortadi | go_socceroos: if you are using kde you can use kde configuration apps to set your menu as you wish |
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| 03:27.35 | sortadi | go_socceroos: it doesn't require any particular knowledge or strange tweak |
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| 03:28.26 | go_socceroos | sortadi, I have done that before but it was time consuming. I just want to do apt-get install and have it done automatically |
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| 03:28.50 | sortadi | go_socceroos: i don't think there's any possibility on that matter |
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| 03:29.11 | hobophobe | what is x-www-browser and www-browser? |
| 03:29.12 | sortadi | go_socceroos: you have to keep in mind that desktop environments are independent from the distro itself |
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| 03:29.43 | hobophobe | okay so www-browser is links or lynx or similar? |
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| 03:30.17 | j4cbo | hobophobe: i think it's a metapackage |
| 03:31.55 | hobophobe | interesting, it links to konqueror |
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| 03:33.57 | hobophobe | is it ln -s link_to link_from or vice versa? |
| 03:37.19 | five0 | what was the name of the tool that allowed one to look at services called at boot? |
| 03:37.21 | Zerial | hobophobe ln -s from to |
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| 03:38.24 | liable | hobophobe: x-www are x browsers and www are console browsers |
| 03:38.53 | liable | hobophobe: www-browser links to konqueror? |
| 03:38.55 | hobophobe | liable, I have found x-www is a symlink to konqueror, which i will now replace with a symlink to firefox :o) |
| 03:39.01 | hobophobe | no, x-www-browser does |
| 03:39.03 | liable | yeah |
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| 03:39.23 | liable | hobophobe: you know how to do that? |
| 03:39.36 | liable | dont do it with a symlink.. |
| 03:39.47 | liable | thats what update-alternatives is for |
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| 03:39.54 | hobophobe | ah.. |
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| 03:40.08 | liable | --config |
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| 03:42.59 | JonnyRo | evening. I am having difficulty getting sshfs on a debian sarge/stable box. It requires /dev/fuse, and while i have fuse-utils installed, the module named fuse is not available. Is fuse included with any of the prebuilt kernel module packs or must it always be built from fuse-source? |
| 03:43.19 | hobophobe | the latest xchat in sid, for some reason it was using x-www-browser to launch urls. Their docs say they use gnome-open, but they don't. I only found out after I was playing around and set gnome's default to 'gnome-open' which caused a nasty looping effect...I noticed in top that x-www-browser was running. |
| 03:43.23 | hobophobe | Thanks, liable :o) |
| 03:43.41 | liable | no worries |
| 03:44.47 | evaded | !ops dcc abuse !! |
| 03:44.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: evaded complains about: dcc abuse !! |
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| 03:45.30 | liable | groan, not another attack |
| 03:45.47 | Piranha | Welllll. |
| 03:45.54 | iLLf8d | lol |
| 03:45.56 | evaded | oh my god, he kill everyone ?? |
| 03:45.57 | Piranha | levin.omg.haqt! |
| 03:45.57 | Amarande | Ergh. |
| 03:46.08 | Amarande | Why does syslog refer to the system as localhost instead of as the name I gave it? |
| 03:46.16 | liable | !hostname |
| 03:46.17 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
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| 03:46.31 | nexis | has anyone experenced problems with the nvidia driver for xorg complaining that a specified resolution has no valid mode line. "1280x1024" driver version 1.0.8762 |
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| 03:47.03 | pingouin | how to install OpenOffice 2 on stable ? the backport fails |
| 03:48.50 | evaded | pingouin: What's the error you get ? |
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| 04:19.49 | j-bit | So how do I need to install GRUB if I want to have either of the two Hard drives be bootable on their own? |
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| 04:20.25 | kspath | vickybot: Who owns you? |
| 04:20.27 | vickybot | kspath: Error: "Who" is not a valid command. |
| 04:20.46 | j-bit | vickybot: owner |
| 04:20.48 | vickybot | j-bit: Error: "owner" is not a valid command. |
| 04:20.57 | linux2 | geeze |
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| 04:21.09 | j-bit | vickybot: go fly a kite |
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| 04:21.11 | vickybot | j-bit: Error: "go" is not a valid command. |
| 04:21.16 | dn4 | Who owns the world yah, join in! |
| 04:21.20 | stoned | vickybot |
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| 04:21.35 | stoned | yeh, its not a fucking bot |
| 04:21.37 | vickybot | stoned: Error: "yeh," is not a valid command. |
| 04:21.39 | linux2 | what exactly is going on here? |
| 04:21.46 | bucky | vickybot help |
| 04:21.47 | vickybot | bucky: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 04:21.58 | stoned | well I guess it is a bot |
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| 04:22.00 | vickybot | stoned: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command). |
| 04:22.04 | stoned | wtf! |
| 04:22.23 | f0urtyfive | hehe |
| 04:22.23 | j-bit | lol |
| 04:22.26 | f0urtyfive | freenode is broke |
| 04:22.30 | thingfish | bigtime |
| 04:22.33 | f0urtyfive | hacked |
| 04:22.34 | f0urtyfive | I hear... |
| 04:22.44 | stoned | yeh it was me |
| 04:22.45 | stoned | ! |
| 04:22.48 | linux2 | yeah i wasn't able to connect for 10 minutes |
| 04:22.51 | stoned | I hack jo0 all |
| 04:22.52 | thingfish | yeah it was pretty wild seeing the freenode staff get kicked. |
| 04:22.56 | stoned | I pwnz jo0 |
| 04:23.02 | dn4 | Didn't everone get the global post about the angry man? |
| 04:23.05 | JavaElitest | linux2: I was able to. Just switch servers. |
| 04:23.10 | dn4 | Zap servers go |
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| 04:23.28 | dn4 | this reminds me of some other servers like dalnet and underground |
| 04:23.31 | stoned | man im hungry |
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| 04:23.35 | JavaElitest | I was offended by the global messages! :( |
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| 04:23.42 | Cow_poke | i heard that some dude /w the nick Diablo-D3 has been trying to start trouble /w lilo and freenode |
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| 04:23.48 | Pons | <Tman__> what happened: some guy got levin's oper privleges (could've been levin himself for all we know), sent a global message or two, started killing/klining loads of staff (including lilo), and then brought some servers down |
| 04:23.49 | f0urtyfive | JavaElitest: lol I was about to paste them :P |
| 04:23.57 | JavaElitest | 23:42 -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global notice] I am a fat asshole, who loves abuse, die |
| 04:24.00 | JavaElitest | 23:42 -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- DCC SEND YOUAREALLJUDENLOL |
| 04:24.05 | f0urtyfive | there ya go |
| 04:24.23 | linux2 | lol |
| 04:24.33 | linux2 | well i guess i will have to wait for my question to get answered |
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| 04:24.40 | stoned | josh |
| 04:24.42 | f0urtyfive | I would think such a big network would have a bit more beefy security |
| 04:24.42 | stoned | wtf are you doin here |
| 04:24.44 | stoned | lol |
| 04:24.49 | JavaElitest | Can I run X.org without init running? |
| 04:24.52 | blaheva | -th6thdh6hg- [Global Notice] Hi all. We've obviously had a compromise. We believe it may be limited, but we're looking at it now, and obviously we may be wrong. Apologies for the difficulties. |
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| 04:24.55 | Sigmund | wondering where you are |
| 04:24.55 | stoned | surprised the fuck outa me man |
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| 04:25.00 | Sigmund | lol |
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| 04:25.01 | stoned | I was in #ganja |
| 04:25.07 | stoned | I thought I replied to ya |
| 04:25.16 | Sigmund | not to my most recent question.. |
| 04:25.27 | stoned | you should get debian man |
| 04:25.33 | dn4 | th6thdh6hg- [Global Notice] Hi all. We've obviously had a compromise. We believe it may be limited, but we're looking at it now, and obviously we may be wrong. Apologies for the difficulties. <--- Those are our mortal gods telling us a global irc "What just happened was the internet farted." |
| 04:25.35 | stoned | fuck windows really, you're meant for debian, I know it |
| 04:25.45 | Sigmund | I got debian |
| 04:25.48 | Sigmund | it's just not installed |
| 04:25.56 | stoned | hah, that is useless then |
| 04:26.12 | stoned | install it man |
| 04:26.23 | Sigmund | I will eventually |
| 04:26.24 | linux2 | stoned, well i just got debian to and i am trying to install it |
| 04:26.25 | linux2 | lol |
| 04:26.27 | linux2 | but no luck |
| 04:26.32 | linux2 | getting an error durring install |
| 04:26.37 | stoned | what error? |
| 04:26.45 | linux2 | so it askes me to answer a question y,n kinda question |
| 04:26.51 | stoned | during which step? and which debian release? |
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| 04:26.54 | JavaElitest | Sigmund: Stick with Windows. :) |
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| 04:27.06 | Sigmund | heh |
| 04:27.06 | linux2 | staniel, installing packages |
| 04:27.07 | raden | is there a way to limit a users directory size ? |
| 04:27.13 | linux2 | staniel, on the 2.4 kernel |
| 04:27.14 | Sigmund | always room for a dual boot |
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| 04:27.24 | linux2 | because the module for cpqarray is broken on 2.6 |
| 04:27.29 | stoned | raden, disk quotas |
| 04:27.33 | linux2 | 2.6 installs but then i cannot get cpqarray to work |
| 04:27.41 | linux2 | 2.4 has support for cpqarray |
| 04:27.46 | linux2 | but then it doesn't work |
| 04:27.53 | stoned | I don't know what that is, sorry |
| 04:28.01 | linux2 | so i have no idea hat the hell to do |
| 04:28.08 | linux2 | stoned, well its just all the new issues |
| 04:28.11 | stoned | if it hangs during the install step, switch to tty2 or 3 and find out whats goin on |
| 04:28.14 | linux2 | with every single debian thing i have |
| 04:28.23 | linux2 | stoned, well it says something about |
| 04:28.27 | stoned | errors output to alt f3 and use shell in alt f2 |
| 04:28.28 | linux2 | mkinitrd.conf |
| 04:28.34 | dn4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:28.47 | linux2 | stoned, how would i answer the question it is asking |
| 04:28.51 | linux2 | in f3 |
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| 04:29.00 | stoned | what question? |
| 04:29.01 | JavaElitest | Can I run X.org without init running? |
| 04:29.12 | linux2 | stoned, it says there is an error about mkinitrd.conf |
| 04:29.19 | linux2 | would you like to continure y/n |
| 04:29.28 | linux2 | but i cannot answer the question |
| 04:29.31 | stoned | I don't kow enough to help you I'm afraid |
| 04:29.46 | EdLin | JavaElitest: "init" runs everything. If you mean inittab, run levels don't control X by default in Debian |
| 04:29.48 | Sigmund | lol |
| 04:29.51 | stoned | maye someone who knows more could |
| 04:29.51 | linux2 | stoned, ok thanks anyways. if only i could get 2.6 to work |
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| 04:30.05 | stoned | !runlevel |
| 04:30.05 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot, or see also runlevels. note that debian doesn't have separate runlevels for graphical and non-graphical logins by default. |
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| 04:30.29 | insmod | linux2: i told you yesterday all you had to do is make those nodes in /dev/ida/ |
| 04:30.49 | stoned | linux2, man mknod |
| 04:31.00 | stoned | if that is what your problem is |
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| 04:31.06 | evaded | bbbrrr |
| 04:31.08 | stoned | what is that cqthingy array anyway |
| 04:31.19 | linux2 | insmod, that isnt the problem |
| 04:31.33 | linux2 | insmod, because if i go and load the module durring the install of 2.4 kernel |
| 04:31.35 | linux2 | it works fine |
| 04:31.38 | linux2 | perfectly |
| 04:31.45 | linux2 | along with while i did it in mandriva |
| 04:32.09 | evaded | Im free to fuck that bastard! |
| 04:32.18 | stoned | evaded, ? |
| 04:32.26 | elik | he's stoned |
| 04:32.38 | insmod | linux2: ya but you needed to make it for 2.6 |
| 04:32.41 | evaded | stoned: Arg that crap of -ratbert- |
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| 04:32.47 | evaded | again ?? |
| 04:32.50 | linux2 | insmod, so download it and compile it myself |
| 04:32.57 | linux2 | even though the kernel module already exists |
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| 04:33.20 | insmod | linux2: for the box yesterday 2.6? |
| 04:33.23 | ubuntu | hey how can i take the modules from my wireless card and installed them on my debian is the ubuntu drivers for a prism54 |
| 04:33.28 | ubuntu | how can i see what drivers does it used |
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| 04:33.35 | linux2 | insmod, yeah. would that fix it |
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| 04:33.47 | stoned | ubuntu, I don't think you can |
| 04:34.08 | ubuntu | how come? |
| 04:34.19 | ubuntu | how come? |
| 04:34.22 | ubuntu | because the ubuntu it detects it right away but debian doesn't |
| 04:34.23 | insmod | linux2: ya but you whould have to remove the debian one -- i would just see if makeing those nodes would work first |
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| 04:34.44 | stoned | ubuntu, it wasn't compiled on ubuntu. Ask in #ubuntu please |
| 04:34.44 | insmod | linux2: if not then do that |
| 04:34.54 | stoned | s/ubuntu/debian |
| 04:34.57 | linux2 | insmod, i tried making the nodes |
| 04:34.58 | linux2 | not luck |
| 04:35.04 | ubuntu | but i want it for debian |
| 04:35.04 | linux2 | did it before i passed out last night |
| 04:35.15 | linux2 | insmod, how do i remove a module? |
| 04:35.21 | stoned | ubuntu, what prevents you from recompiling the modules under debian |
| 04:35.26 | insmod | linux2: rmmod |
| 04:35.28 | ubuntu | i did, |
| 04:35.30 | ubuntu | and it doesn't work |
| 04:35.32 | stoned | ubuntu, does your wireless card not supported on debian? |
| 04:35.36 | ubuntu | my wireless card isn't working |
| 04:35.40 | insmod | linux2: for good ? |
| 04:35.43 | ubuntu | it does stoned is a prism54 |
| 04:35.44 | linux2 | insmod, yeah |
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| 04:35.54 | stoned | hmm |
| 04:35.54 | linux2 | insmod, cause i need to remove it to install the new one. correct? |
| 04:35.55 | itchi | alloooaaaa |
| 04:36.05 | itchi | Yes, i'm back guys :-) |
| 04:36.31 | pixolet | yay, let the festivities begin |
| 04:36.39 | EdLin | itchi: where's scratchi? |
| 04:36.41 | insmod | linux2: well it is probably built in the kernel if not locate the pavkage and remove -- or recompile kernel |
| 04:36.59 | itchi | EdLin: Killed by that fucking -ratbert- |
| 04:37.21 | itchi | EdLin: Moment i try to run it again |
| 04:37.41 | ubuntu | stoned, any ideas |
| 04:38.09 | ubuntu | itchi, do you have aim |
| 04:38.22 | linux2 | insmod, recompile the kernel, with the new module? |
| 04:38.26 | itchi | ubuntu: What's that ? |
| 04:38.28 | ubuntu | i'm the guy you help to set up the X |
| 04:38.30 | linux2 | that will take friggin forever |
| 04:38.33 | ubuntu | or msn itchi |
| 04:38.37 | linux2 | the last time i made a kernel i fucked up everything |
| 04:38.40 | ubuntu | aol instant message |
| 04:38.45 | itchi | diabolic msn are you crazy ?? |
| 04:39.06 | stoned | ubuntu, I got a lotta ideas man, but they probably won't benefit you |
| 04:39.08 | ubuntu | man i want to get my wireless card working under debian and i will be good to go, |
| 04:39.10 | insmod | linux2: run synaptic |
| 04:39.14 | ubuntu | bla, |
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| 04:39.55 | itchi | ubuntu: Have you look at ndiswrapper ? |
| 04:39.57 | ubuntu | 2.6.12-9-386 does debian support this kernel |
| 04:40.03 | stoned | oh man, limewire is about to do a sha check on 4.7gb file |
| 04:40.08 | stoned | that is goig to take a while |
| 04:40.20 | itchi | Yeah lilo, fight and kill him please |
| 04:40.21 | ubuntu | itchi, remember me |
| 04:40.30 | ubuntu | (: |
| 04:40.31 | itchi | ubuntu: Why? |
| 04:40.34 | ubuntu | 2.6.12-9-386 does debian support this kernel |
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| 04:40.53 | ubuntu | itchi, just asking you we're the one that ssh to my box, and fixed my X |
| 04:40.56 | itchi | ubuntu: I not know about ubuntu :-/ |
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| 04:41.08 | itchi | ubuntu: hhhmmm |
| 04:41.15 | linux2 | insmod, isn't synaptic a package manager? |
| 04:41.27 | linux2 | insmod, it is not a seperate package |
| 04:41.34 | linux2 | insmod, im just completey stuck |
| 04:41.36 | linux2 | no where to go |
| 04:41.45 | itchi | ubuntu: Im sorry, i'm now a bit bussy. That crap of thing of bastard there ... that killed that fucking thing here ... bbbbrrrr |
| 04:42.00 | ubuntu | oh |
| 04:42.09 | itchi | ubuntu: I have little troubles, be patient im for you in some time |
| 04:42.15 | ubuntu | how long |
| 04:42.17 | ubuntu | so i can wait for you, |
| 04:42.25 | itchi | ubuntu: I can not tell :-( |
| 04:42.29 | ubuntu | damn |
| 04:42.39 | stoned | patience is a virtue |
| 04:42.48 | insmod | linux2: ya it will show you if it is installed correct depends ets fix brocken etc and allow you to remove it if you want to compile a new version |
| 04:42.53 | ubuntu | stoned, so what are you're ideas |
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| 04:42.59 | stoned | well |
| 04:42.59 | itchi | ubuntu: Damn of the fucking bastards that have nothings others that to kill _good_ things |
| 04:43.02 | stoned | I am going to smoke weed |
| 04:43.05 | stoned | thats my idea |
| 04:43.05 | stoned | later |
| 04:43.07 | stoned | :) |
| 04:43.12 | ubuntu | hmmm okay |
| 04:43.26 | itchi | ubuntu: No pay attention to my now. A bit to stress here :-/ |
| 04:43.43 | ubuntu | damn |
| 04:43.46 | ubuntu | that sucks, |
| 04:43.54 | itchi | stoned: Please give me to, i need to :-/ |
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| 04:44.15 | stoned | :) |
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| 04:44.41 | stoned | biological people here |
| 04:44.44 | itchi | !weed to everyone :-/ |
| 04:44.56 | ubuntu | itchi, how can i know what modules ubuntu is using for my, eth1 card |
| 04:44.58 | stoned | Anaphase, Metaphase, Interphase, crap I forgot the 4th one |
| 04:45.06 | stoned | and I didn't even write them in order |
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| 04:45.19 | insmod | ubuntu: lsmod |
| 04:45.24 | stoned | we start with Interphase, then go into oh fuck it, I sucked at biology |
| 04:45.31 | ubuntu | okay |
| 04:45.35 | ubuntu | there is a lot of stuff |
| 04:45.50 | ubuntu | prism54 47752 0 |
| 04:45.50 | ubuntu | firmware_class 9472 1 prism54 |
| 04:45.50 | ubuntu | e100 32768 0 |
| 04:45.50 | ubuntu | mii 5248 1 e100 |
| 04:45.50 | ubuntu | nls_cp437 5888 1 |
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| 04:46.03 | stoned | !paster ubuntu |
| 04:46.03 | dpkg | ubuntu: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 04:46.04 | ubuntu | bla |
| 04:46.06 | ubuntu | sorry |
| 04:46.21 | ubuntu | i have prism54 module in debian but my wireless card still won't work |
| 04:46.23 | ubuntu | i wonder why |
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| 04:47.29 | insmod | ubuntu: what does cat /etc/network/interfaces say? |
| 04:47.55 | ubuntu | insmod, join #flood |
| 04:48.05 | itchi | oef, i'm back, stress for nothing, that fucking crap had set my cpu at 100% |
| 04:48.47 | itchi | I guess he have kille my bot to :-( |
| 04:48.47 | ubuntu | all those things are in that particularly file |
| 04:48.49 | ubuntu | *particular |
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| 04:51.29 | ubuntu | c00l |
| 04:51.30 | Ox0F0-0FF | ubuntu, hum... Maybe your nick is using NDIS on ubuntu ? |
| 04:51.38 | ubuntu | huh |
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| 04:51.47 | elik | hey itchi |
| 04:51.55 | ubuntu | ndis? |
| 04:51.59 | Ox0F0-0FF | just an idea... |
| 04:52.59 | ubuntu | you're idea sucks |
| 04:53.06 | elik | wow |
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| 04:53.43 | Ox0F0-0FF | ubuntu, you don't even know what the f*ck ndis is how can you criticize what i said try to help you ? you suck |
| 04:53.48 | sortadi | you ARE idea sucks |
| 04:53.57 | sortadi | that was very clever ubuntu |
| 04:53.59 | maikol | hah, sortadi |
| 04:54.11 | Ox0F0-0FF | :) |
| 04:54.15 | tnks | I'm playing around with xev. Is it the keyboard that controls which key's repeat when held down? Or is that something that xmodmap can control? |
| 04:54.44 | sortadi | well judging by your nick i take it you are african, ubuntu |
| 04:54.56 | sortadi | so... i hope that explains your lack of coherence |
| 04:55.09 | Ox0F0-0FF | well, ther's still #ubuntu, maybe people have ideas that don't suck here |
| 04:55.18 | tnks | say if I set a keysym as a modifier (which I haven't done yet). |
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| 04:58.59 | itchi | brb |
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| 05:02.36 | itchi | Yeah :-) |
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| 05:05.04 | itchi | hoela |
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| 05:05.07 | itchi | Yes, comme back my lovely guys :-) |
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| 05:15.12 | maikol | how can i play .mid and .ram files |
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| 05:16.21 | Zerial | maikol, apt-cache search mid player |
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| 05:16.28 | AlienX | maikol, .ram is a real audio file |
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| 05:16.52 | insmod | maikol: .midi timidity or kmidi etc .ram realplayer |
| 05:16.58 | maikol | so why cant realplayer play it AlienX |
| 05:17.10 | linux2 | why is everything in debian always denied use of the X display? |
| 05:17.15 | AlienX | maikol, any number of reasons. Perhaps it's a bad file |
| 05:18.19 | insmod | linux2: so knobody gets unwanted power -- treat all as nothings |
| 05:18.31 | LoneWlf | linux2: lol@insmod... |
| 05:18.34 | LoneWlf | er |
| 05:18.35 | LoneWlf | wait |
| 05:18.38 | LoneWlf | tru |
| 05:18.41 | LoneWlf | true :) |
| 05:19.05 | linux2 | insmod, how can i make it so that apps are able to access it |
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| 05:19.14 | linux2 | cause i am having trouble running loads of apps |
| 05:19.15 | LoneWlf | linux2: there is a file that the default .xinitrc reads somewhere that turns off the listener... shuts down tcp entirely |
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| 05:19.58 | LoneWlf | linux2: if you did a netstat -an|grep -i listen|grep 6001 it might have been 6000 but anyway, you'd get nothing |
| 05:20.03 | insmod | linux2: like what |
| 05:20.30 | LoneWlf | linux2: do a cd /etc/X11; find -type f -exec grep -h {}; |
| 05:20.36 | LoneWlf | linux2: do a cd /etc/X11; find -type f -exec grep -h {}\; |
| 05:20.40 | LoneWlf | there we go |
| 05:20.47 | LoneWlf | oh wait |
| 05:20.48 | LoneWlf | patter |
| 05:20.56 | LoneWlf | linux2: do a cd /etc/X11; find -type f -exec grep -h {}\ nolisten; |
| 05:21.33 | LoneWlf | take that line out of whatever file is reported and restart KDM or X or whatever with a ctrl+alt+backspace and you're good as gold |
| 05:21.49 | linux2 | LoneWlf, so then i wont get an error like.... |
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| 05:22.04 | LoneWlf | I put the pattern in the wrong place for grep |
| 05:22.11 | linux2 | well nevermind |
| 05:22.11 | linux2 | lol |
| 05:22.15 | linux2 | wants to work find now |
| 05:22.25 | LoneWlf | linux2: do a cd /etc/X11; find -type f -exec grep -h nolisten{}\; |
| 05:22.28 | LoneWlf | oh |
| 05:22.30 | LoneWlf | you fixed it |
| 05:22.34 | LoneWlf | how'd you do that? |
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| 05:23.14 | LoneWlf | pfm? |
| 05:23.24 | LoneWlf | pure fun magic? |
| 05:24.22 | formorer | LoneWlf: useless use of find |
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| 05:24.39 | cat | okay |
| 05:24.41 | cat | im back |
| 05:24.59 | LoneWlf | formorer, well, I haven't quite got the syntax right or it wouldn't be |
| 05:25.14 | LoneWlf | keeps you from having to use xargs |
| 05:25.20 | bartm | formorer: hi :) |
| 05:25.30 | LoneWlf | formorer, xargs is my friend... usually |
| 05:25.32 | formorer | hi bart |
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| 05:25.54 | formorer | LoneWlf: grep -rh /etc/X11/* |
| 05:26.03 | maikol | AlienX: realplayer says: "the following components are required: lpcJ" |
| 05:26.08 | LoneWlf | formorer: good poitn |
| 05:26.23 | AlienX | maikol, hmm no clue |
| 05:26.43 | qwertz | Hi, is it possible to encrypt all partitions already in the debian installer? |
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| 05:26.59 | comsa | 9 lives perhaps |
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| 05:27.13 | linux2 | LoneWlf, yeah i will go with that PFM |
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| 05:27.31 | formorer | qwertz: no, not yet |
| 05:27.37 | pilgrim | How do I increase my CPU usage? I don't know of any creative ideas. (I need this to test a program on how it performs under heavy CPU load). |
| 05:27.57 | bartm | pilgrim: see "man renice" |
| 05:27.59 | dabreegster | pilgrim: Encoding movies, an infinite loop... |
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| 05:28.12 | pilgrim | dabreegster, hmm.inifinite loop good one |
| 05:28.21 | bartm | pilgrim: ow I misunderstood that |
| 05:28.28 | dabreegster | pilgrim: Encoding with a high priority also does it |
| 05:28.43 | pilgrim | dabreegster, got to find movie though, so infinite loop nicers. |
| 05:28.46 | pilgrim | nicer* |
| 05:29.08 | formorer | pilgrim: :(){ :|:& };: |
| 05:29.12 | Chihork | I'm looking for some help with my terminal window, and xterm. I don't seem to be able to get any different font colours (ls doesn't list directories in green, etc.) If someone has had this problem before, or if anyone knows how I can fix this, I would appreciate the help. |
| 05:29.21 | dabreegster | pilgrim: There are also some stress test packages out there |
| 05:29.28 | insmod | pilgrim: try my movie program -- i need more people sending errors if any http://home.cogeco.ca/~smacneil1/ |
| 05:29.29 | formorer | pilgrim: alternative: while true; do echo > /dev/null ; done |
| 05:29.32 | dabreegster | formorer: Pretty sure that'll hang any system. Bad idea to recommend it. |
| 05:29.59 | formorer | just a simple fork bomb |
| 05:30.23 | formorer | and it shouldn't crash a good shell :) |
| 05:33.43 | qwertz | formorer, thanks for the info |
| 05:33.51 | formorer | nop |
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| 05:35.33 | pilgrim | Ok. Who gave me that brackets and braces command that like tortured my machine? |
| 05:35.45 | pilgrim | I was looking for something milder |
| 05:36.01 | Supaplex | 23:29 < formorer> pilgrim: :(){ :|:& };: |
| 05:36.17 | dabreegster | pilgrim: Like I said, that'll hang any system... |
| 05:36.28 | formorer | 07:29 <formorer> pilgrim: alternative: while true; do echo > /dev/null ; done |
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| 05:37.18 | pilgrim | formorer, is it stoppable? |
| 05:37.24 | Supaplex | while :; do tail /dev/zero & done |
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| 05:37.33 | itchi | pilgrim: It's like 'perl -e /dev/zero' <- NOT TO DO |
| 05:37.37 | formorer | pilgrim: yes |
| 05:37.43 | pilgrim | formorer, cool. |
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| 05:37.45 | Supaplex | are you looking for a stress test? |
| 05:37.48 | cat | man im updating to sid, |
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| 05:37.56 | cat | i hope i dont get no packages borken |
| 05:37.57 | pilgrim | Supaplex, yeah. |
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| 05:38.19 | Supaplex | search for burn in or something. there's atleast a package or two for it. |
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| 05:39.00 | pilgrim | formorer, that's much better. Now what did this do: :(){ :|:& };: |
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| 05:39.29 | Supaplex | bad things |
| 05:39.39 | Supaplex | :D |
| 05:39.43 | pilgrim | Supaplex, the infinite loop does it? |
| 05:39.51 | EdLin | pilgrim: no, a fork bomb |
| 05:39.54 | pilgrim | Supaplex, I meant that as a statement. |
| 05:39.57 | simonrvn | cpuburn i think is one |
| 05:40.25 | pilgrim | EdLin, how? whats the ":" can you expalin in a little detail? |
| 05:40.33 | Supaplex | :() appears to be a funtion named : which calls itself, and forks another copy calling it self |
| 05:40.49 | Supaplex | right? |
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| 05:41.04 | Supaplex | I thought : = /bin/true, but internal. |
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| 05:41.30 | Supaplex | maybe you can redefine it. :) |
| 05:42.13 | itchi | Supaplex: Yes try these things there ^^ :-p |
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| 05:46.41 | Supaplex | haha I lived |
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| 05:47.22 | Supaplex | I'll have to show that one to my buddy at work :) |
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| 05:47.34 | pilgrim | Supaplex, you discovered what exactly? |
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| 05:50.43 | itchi | I have never see so less users on #debian :-( |
| 05:50.47 | Supaplex | ok, I survived that forkbomb :) |
| 05:50.48 | itchi | 334 |
| 05:50.54 | AlienX | itchi, it's because freenode is having issues |
| 05:50.57 | Supaplex | but not this screwey network migration |
| 05:51.10 | itchi | AlienX: Yes, i have follow that crap :-/ |
| 05:51.13 | Supaplex | my client finally disconected and thought 'oh, irc.debian.org' haha |
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| 05:51.26 | zenwryly | I'm trying to write an Apache 2.0 RewriteCond that will match URLs that do NOT have "/library/" at the beginning. Unfortunately, I want to catch "/library/" "/library/blah" "/library" but not "/library_blah". I have "!^/library(/.*)|()$" but it doesn't work, any suggestions? |
| 05:51.51 | itchi | AlienX: I guess crap of gnaa |
| 05:52.12 | AlienX | itchi, someone somehow pretended to be lilo and messed thigns up |
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| 05:52.49 | itchi | AlienX: Yes, i had view it, with my 'evaded' nick i had quick send an ops msg before i got killed :-/ |
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| 05:58.29 | itchi | liable: Welcome back :-) |
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| 06:03.04 | itchi | oh no, lilo |
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| 06:03.24 | itchi | Yeah :-) |
| 06:03.35 | eeg3 | lilo: stop breaking things. |
| 06:04.03 | itchi | eeg3: He try to repair, what are you telling ? |
| 06:04.23 | eeg3 | itchi, http://english.ytmnsfw.com |
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| 06:05.06 | itchi | I not trust that link :-/ |
| 06:05.18 | eeg3 | its just samuel l jackson |
| 06:05.48 | itchi | Yeah and im scratchi lol |
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| 06:27.19 | Supaplex | sleepy channel tonight. |
| 06:28.04 | liable | evryone prolly migrated to oftc when the shit hit the fan :) |
| 06:30.07 | Supaplex | I had a clone there myself. then I cursed lilo three times, and reconnected here. |
| 06:30.43 | liable | someone really has it in for freenode.. bastards |
| 06:31.06 | fishdeb | this network will never die |
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| 06:34.08 | noige | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:34.23 | N0S3 | hello |
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| 06:35.23 | N0S3 | somebody? |
| 06:36.04 | liable | what? |
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| 06:41.11 | streuner | hm |
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| 06:42.09 | streuner | Who playing today? |
| 06:43.21 | streuner | .ar and .de are in the last 8. |
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| 06:44.14 | cahoot | england vs equador and holland vs portugal |
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| 06:44.26 | Pons | anyone knows how to disable framebuffer directly from the kernel? |
| 06:44.48 | Pons | cat: you're following my steps |
| 06:44.57 | Supaplex | easy, recompile w/o fb support. |
| 06:45.01 | cat | i think so |
| 06:45.08 | liable | Pons: blacklist it |
| 06:45.13 | Pons | Supaplex, any other option? |
| 06:45.18 | Supaplex | google |
| 06:45.25 | cat | i think so |
| 06:45.27 | cat | lol |
| 06:45.27 | Supaplex | !fb |
| 06:45.28 | dpkg | fb are floot bloppies, or , but shouldn't it be foot-bloppies?, or framebuffer (a graphicsmode (in terms of vga video memory addressing) for text), or fluxbox |
| 06:45.30 | Pons | liable, how? |
| 06:45.37 | Supaplex | !framebuffer |
| 06:45.38 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see fbcon. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. |
| 06:45.44 | liable | Pons: /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 06:48.33 | streuner | cahoot: that wasn't yesterday fair, one of the .ar players should see a "carton", because he made a foul as "last" man. |
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| 06:49.51 | streuner | but i guess .ar should go into the next round... |
| 06:50.16 | cahoot | streuner: might be so - but - a certain amount of unfairness is part of the game/charm |
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| 06:51.03 | liable | and promotes violence :) |
| 06:51.30 | cahoot | streuner: ar had at least one possibly two goals robbed due to wrong offside calls |
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| 06:53.02 | N0S3 | "Error: keyword not valid or missing" i have this error in packages.debian.org why? wthat connectors should use? |
| 06:53.23 | mastroquet | Hi all |
| 06:53.31 | f00li5h | mastroquet: hi there |
| 06:55.50 | f00li5h | is there a threshold for the number of pdifs that apt-get will download before it demans a full tree? |
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| 06:56.59 | sid | f00li5h: I dunno, but I did apt-get update on sid; after not doing it for 3 months; And it took 15 minutes |
| 06:57.14 | sid | And that was on a 50 mbit connection, and I could get 5 megs a second from lyre.mit.edu |
| 06:57.45 | sid | But all those pdiffs slowed me down 1000x slower then just grabbing everything |
| 06:58.05 | f00li5h | sid: yeah, there's a bit of that going in |
| 06:58.35 | f00li5h | there'd have to be a cutoff, based on method (http|ftp) and link speed |
| 06:58.57 | sid | Well you can just turn it off, if you don't want pdiffs |
| 06:59.18 | f00li5h | i don't know, i suppose it'd depend how often you do your update |
| 06:59.24 | f00li5h | (perhaps from cron, on sunday) |
| 06:59.38 | qwertz | Is the backup mysql user a default in debian or not (I'm cleaning the user tables of our mysql servers and I'm not sure if debian needs it for something)? |
| 07:00.14 | f00li5h | qwertz: erm, there's a debian-sysmaintenence user, or something |
| 07:00.29 | f00li5h | i don't know of any others (but it'd be worth waiting to see) |
| 07:01.19 | qwertz | f00li5h, yes there is debian-sys-maint and thankfully it is named obviously but I'm not sure on backup |
| 07:01.59 | f00li5h | yeah, i think that'd be the only one debian uses, but you'd want to make sure that you don't meat-axe the ones that belong to your controll-pannel software |
| 07:02.21 | qwertz | thanks for the info! |
| 07:02.48 | f00li5h | any time |
| 07:03.26 | streuner | cahoot: fifa officials said to some dutch fans no to join the arena in stuttgart, because they had PR on there trousers from a brewery which isn't an official sponsor... |
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| 07:21.20 | streuner | cahoot: http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2006/dutch-fans-watch-game-in-nothing-but-underwear.html |
| 07:23.25 | liable | hehe |
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| 07:36.47 | deadcat | is it recommended to install linux to a usb stick? in terms of life span |
| 07:38.51 | liable | i think reducing writes is the way to go. noatime and that sorta shit. laptop-mode-tools would prolly be a good thing |
| 07:40.22 | stew | and syslog over udp to another box with real storage |
| 07:41.21 | noige | ns1 IN A 192.168.1.111 |
| 07:41.21 | noige | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.21 | noige | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.22 | noige | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.26 | noige | shit |
| 07:41.27 | noige | sorry |
| 07:41.30 | noige | wrong window |
| 07:42.12 | f00li5h | noige: shows your mx! |
| 07:42.21 | noige | ahha |
| 07:42.27 | noige | yeah |
| 07:42.31 | liable | i think i am gonna have to buy a t60 |
| 07:42.41 | noige | just internal stuff |
| 07:42.46 | streuner | hm, debhelper isn't here... |
| 07:42.50 | noige | setting up bind for the first time |
| 07:42.52 | f00li5h | astronut: yeah, you'll find that's useful |
| 07:43.34 | streuner | stew: can you start debhelper? |
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| 07:46.12 | astronut | f00li5h: eh? |
| 07:47.07 | EdLin | !nickometer f00li5h |
| 07:47.09 | dpkg | 'f00li5h' is 48.000% lame, edlin |
| 07:47.22 | trelane | !nickometer trelane |
| 07:47.23 | dpkg | 'trelane' is 0.000% lame, trelane |
| 07:47.27 | trelane | woot! |
| 07:49.37 | Supaplex | deadcat: I have a cf card running on my firewall. I don't write local logs for syslog, and I have tmpfs style mounts for some of the package caches etc. (and a lame startup script to extract all the directories and 'tiny' state files apt wants) |
| 07:50.07 | Supaplex | eg, what you get after apt-cache clean |
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| 07:52.48 | cmug | !nickometer cmug |
| 07:52.49 | dpkg | 'cmug' is 0.000% lame, cmug |
| 07:52.52 | cmug | roger |
| 07:54.48 | deadcat | Supaplex: but this is a usb thumb drive. is that the same as a CF card? in terms of writing over and over again? |
| 07:59.15 | liable | all flash memory |
| 07:59.25 | deadcat | oh. |
| 07:59.36 | deadcat | so it WILL die if i write to it too much? |
| 08:00.18 | liable | thats what they reckon, google will say the average no. of writes they are good for i spose |
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| 08:09.06 | cat | bla |
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| 08:24.47 | mha13 | how can remove a module from memory ? |
| 08:24.55 | ledet | rmmod |
| 08:25.23 | cahoot | or modprobe -r |
| 08:25.40 | mha13 | 10x ppl .. |
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| 08:26.50 | mha13 | if i installed module using insmod modprobe -r will be enuth right? |
| 08:26.50 | xomhauvtt | hi all |
| 08:28.08 | EdLin | mha13: you should install modules with modprobe, incidentally. insmod with 2.6 kernels can cause problems |
| 08:28.22 | xomhauvtt | i.e. i want user xomhauvtt do not access using command rm, what need i do? |
| 08:29.55 | ledet | mha13: try |
| 08:29.59 | mha13 | EdLin: 10q , asfak modprobe don't install modules into the kernel (i should run modprobe module ecth i reboot) |
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| 08:30.28 | EdLin | mha13: modprobe without options is supposed to do exactly that, if it isn't there's something wrong. |
| 08:30.39 | EdLin | (options other than device name) |
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| 08:31.55 | cat | man i love debian |
| 08:31.59 | cat | the best stuff ever, |
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| 08:33.10 | mha13 | EdLin: K, so how should i install module into kernel in 2.6.XXX ? (excpt editing /etc/modprobe.conf) |
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| 08:33.48 | EdLin | mha13: you shouldn't edit /etc/modprobe.conf either |
| 08:34.01 | cat | is /etc/modules that you should edit, |
| 08:34.07 | cat | modprobe module name |
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| 08:34.24 | mha13 | sorry have to run im missing my bus .. |
| 08:34.30 | mha13 | thnx 4 all ... |
| 08:34.37 | mha13 | net cafe .. |
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| 08:35.17 | EdLin | modules.conf has a big fat warning in the file saying not to hand-edit it, yet people do it and complain when things are broken... |
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| 08:43.40 | nbt | hi , it's normal that the /usr folder weights 2 gb ? |
| 08:44.23 | citral | nbt: depends how much apps you install |
| 08:44.48 | nbt | it's debian base |
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| 08:45.46 | boukensya | hey guys, I am using a laptop with fluxbox and the mouse is really really slow, how would I speed this up? |
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| 08:47.06 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.29 | noige | man xset |
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| 08:48.54 | boukensya | nbt: kcenter? thats only kde isn't it? |
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| 08:49.21 | nbt | u 're on gnom e ? |
| 08:49.42 | jimmiehansson | he's on fluxbox |
| 08:49.48 | boukensya | yes |
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| 08:50.12 | nbt | sorry i don't know much about gnome |
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| 08:52.47 | didas | hello all. I am not very experienced user. I installes sarge with GNOME and trying to find out what is the default (if any) sound server of GNOME |
| 08:53.56 | cahoot | didas: esd IIRC - don't enable it if you really have to |
| 08:54.05 | cahoot | didas: esd IIRC - don't enable it if you don't really have to |
| 08:54.35 | didas | cahhot: why not? |
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| 08:55.22 | cahoot | didas: if you use alsa you probably don't need it |
| 08:55.55 | didas | cahhot: I am trying to use rhythmbox and I get an error message that the /dev/dsp is used by another application. The solution would be to use a sound server; isn't that right? |
| 08:56.26 | cahoot | didas: see what uses it - fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 08:56.40 | didas | hmmm let me check this. |
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| 08:57.31 | farous | anyone know what might cause Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097 |
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| 08:57.46 | didas | cahhot: its esd that is using the sound server. I assume it is already enabled... :-) |
| 08:58.31 | cahoot | didas: what sound card/module do you use? |
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| 08:59.12 | didas | cahhot: how can I find this? |
| 08:59.33 | cahoot | didas: what kernel? uname -r |
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| 09:00.02 | didas | cahhot: kernel 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 09:00.29 | cahoot | didas: ok - do you know if you use oss or alsa? |
| 09:00.54 | cahoot | didas: does /proc/asound exist? |
| 09:01.00 | didas | cahhot: am using alsa as far as I can remember. Is there anyway to verify this? |
| 09:01.07 | cahoot | didas: does /proc/asound exist? |
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| 09:01.17 | didas | hold on |
| 09:01.44 | didas | cahhot: yes /proc/asound exists |
| 09:01.59 | cahoot | didas: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 09:02.29 | boukensya | would it be changing synaptics options in the xorg file to get my mouse to speed up? |
| 09:02.33 | didas | cahhot: 0 [CMI8738MC6 ]: CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6 |
| 09:02.34 | didas | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.40 | didas | two lines |
| 09:03.22 | didas | cahhot: I know that this PC has a soundblaster live and probably a built in sound card to the motherboard |
| 09:03.29 | cahoot | didas: grep -i play /proc/asound/pcm |
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| 09:04.13 | didas | 00-00: CMI8738-MC6 : C-Media PCI DAC/ADC : playback 1 : capture 1 |
| 09:04.13 | didas | 00-01: CMI8738-MC6 : C-Media PCI 2nd DAC : playback 1 |
| 09:04.13 | didas | 00-02: CMI8738-MC6 : C-Media PCI IEC958 : playback 1 : capture 1 |
| 09:05.01 | cahoot | didas: ok - you either want esd or learn to use alsa's dmix to be able to play >1 sound simultaneously |
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| 09:05.42 | cahoot | didas: unless you do the sensible thing and get a soundblaster ;) |
| 09:05.59 | werdna | cahoot, nasty! |
| 09:06.13 | cahoot | but true |
| 09:06.16 | boukensya | hmm.. my lspci isn't working, what package is lspci in as I need to install it... |
| 09:06.18 | didas | cahoot: I want to digest all this so probably I will have to do some reading. But in a few words, what is going on on my system?:-) |
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| 09:07.08 | cahoot | didas: 1. your sounddevice uses alsa. 2. your card has no hw mixing capability |
| 09:07.12 | boukensya | pciutils |
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| 09:07.26 | asd26 | dudes where is file that set's all packages on the internet? |
| 09:07.30 | cahoot | didas: 3. you either want esd or learn to use alsa's dmix to be able to play >1 sound simultaneously |
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| 09:07.53 | asd26 | http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libj/libjavascript-perl/libjavascript-perl_0.52-4_i386.deb trying to install this, but i need deps? |
| 09:08.03 | didas | cahoot: and you say there is no soundblaster on this computer? |
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| 09:08.26 | cahoot | didas: since esd is occupying /dev/dsp I suppose you need tell rhythmbox to output via esd (if that's possible) |
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| 09:08.55 | cahoot | didas: not any module loade for the soundblaster |
| 09:09.00 | didas | cahoot: I read somewhere that I can use a program called esddsp for that. ever heard of it? |
| 09:09.14 | cahoot | didas: try modprobe snd-emu10k1 |
| 09:10.00 | cahoot | didas: then check /proc/asound/cards |
| 09:10.32 | didas | hmmm.. modprobe: command not found |
| 09:10.37 | cahoot | as root |
| 09:10.41 | didas | oh |
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| 09:12.17 | didas | cahoot: ok.. here is what modprobe returns |
| 09:12.49 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: init_module: No such devic e |
| 09:12.52 | didas | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including inva lid IO or IRQ parameters. |
| 09:13.02 | didas | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.02 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.27 -2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o failed |
| 09:13.02 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: insmod snd-emu10k1 failed |
| 09:13.04 | didas | dimitrios@Andromache:~$ sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 |
| 09:13.06 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: init_module: No such device |
| 09:13.09 | didas | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. |
| 09:13.12 | didas | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.15 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o failed |
| 09:13.18 | didas | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: insmod snd-emu10k1 failed |
| 09:13.21 | didas | that was too long. sorry about that.... |
| 09:13.25 | cahoot | didas: might be the soundblaster live uses some other module |
| 09:13.48 | cahoot | didas: lspci should tell you if it exists |
| 09:13.59 | didas | cahoot: ok.. here is what I conclude... |
| 09:13.59 | cahoot | didas: lspci should tell you if the sound card exists |
| 09:14.18 | didas | cahoot: 1) thanks for all the help |
| 09:14.44 | didas | cahoot: 1) I need to learn a lot about sound in Linux still |
| 09:15.02 | didas | cahoot: 3) I am lucky to play sound on this pc... |
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| 09:15.45 | didas | will get back here after i do some reading... |
| 09:16.07 | cahoot | didas try get the soundblaster to life |
| 09:16.35 | didas | cahoot: yes I think that's top priority |
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| 09:16.55 | didas | thanks a lot |
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| 09:17.46 | lilliput | hello all, I do have pb when updating x11-common_1%3a7.0.22_i386.deb (unstable), is this a known issue ? |
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| 09:19.37 | drbean | I have a question about passing control keys through Gnome terminal to my application. |
| 09:19.58 | drbean | Yesterday, I asked about getting alt-b through to bash. |
| 09:20.42 | drbean | Today I want <f1> to open mutt's help file. Instead I am getting Gnome terminal's help. |
| 09:21.17 | drbean | Does Gnome terminal have a way of escaping these control keys, so my application sees them. |
| 09:23.14 | lilliput | drbean, you could ask on #gnome they might also have an answer .. I'm more an xfce person .. |
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| 09:44.26 | icebit | hi all |
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| 09:48.14 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:48.14 | dpkg | <greycat> I will not run it on Solaris. I will not run it in Madrid or Paris. I will not run the Enterprise. I do not like it in my eyes. |
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| 09:49.08 | blondie | grrr |
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| 09:50.09 | crazy_penguin | Good afternoon everyone! |
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| 09:51.16 | EdLin | crazy_penguin: it's not afternoon here. :) |
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| 09:54.02 | deadcat | whats a good photo gallery similar to libapache-gallery-perl? where i dont have to use any web interface or so. just move photos to a dir and BAM! |
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| 10:01.18 | morning_wood | The GNOME incident |
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| 10:03.16 | Haul | Every time I reboot my /dev/hdc2 gets kicked from my RAID1 array and I have to mdadm -a to manually rebuild the array every time. What can cause this? |
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| 10:04.47 | zamaliphe | my friend get a WinDVB card and when i try to start linux the pc freez i have try nodiscover but nothing ? |
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| 10:10.18 | sepski | zamaliphe, tried removing the card ? tried with noapic, is it loading the driver of the card that freezes the comp ? if yes tried adding the card to blacklist in discover and hotswap |
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| 10:11.05 | wendell_ | Some reason my sound doesn't work, lsmod shows the sound card detected and loaded, but mixer programs won't open |
| 10:11.20 | wendell_ | and some reason there is no /dev/dsp |
| 10:11.44 | zamaliphe | sepski: when i remov the card the pc work fine |
| 10:12.31 | zamaliphe | sepski: how to adding the card to blacklist in discover and hotswap ? |
| 10:13.14 | zamaliphe | sepski: how to force the linux not to load the driver ? |
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| 10:14.14 | liable | wendell_: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 10:14.42 | sepski | zamaliphe, skip [drivername] in /etc/discover.conf; put [drivername] in the file /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 10:14.44 | cahoot | wendell_: if you use alsa |
| 10:15.12 | wendell_ | great (: thanks |
| 10:15.47 | cahoot | wendell_: if you use alsa - let the apps use alsa api |
| 10:15.58 | zamaliphe | sepski: thanks alot |
| 10:16.07 | cahoot | wendell_: /dev/dsp is alsas oss emulation |
| 10:16.29 | wendell_ | oh ok, cool.. testing it out now, mixer seems to work fine now though |
| 10:16.42 | sepski | zamaliphe, dont know if that help or not tho. since you dont say where it freezes |
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| 10:17.38 | sid | How do I control my fan? |
| 10:17.40 | zamaliphe | sepski: i will try it |
| 10:17.42 | sid | tell it when to come on etc |
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| 10:18.20 | markit | hi, any tip about the repo of "marillat" not working anymore? ( No such file or directory) |
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| 10:18.54 | markit | ah, they have moved, thanks |
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| 10:19.46 | wendell_ | how do I tell if I am using alsa or oss, because that didn't seem to work |
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| 10:20.02 | cahoot | wendell_: does /proc/asound exist? |
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| 10:20.22 | wendell_ | yeah |
| 10:20.32 | cahoot | wendell_: try alsamixer |
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| 10:21.29 | cahoot | wendell_: preferably in/from a term |
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| 10:23.04 | wendell_ | ok, havn't tried alsamixer yet (tracking down what package its in) but some sound does seem to work |
| 10:23.11 | wendell_ | like the tab beeping and stuff works |
| 10:23.33 | cahoot | wendell_: isn't that simply pcspeaker? |
| 10:23.54 | wendell_ | well it could be, but I can change the volume of it |
| 10:23.59 | wendell_ | and its a laptop |
| 10:24.02 | wendell_ | so kinda hard to tell |
| 10:25.45 | cahoot | wendell_: I believ alsamixer is in alsa-utils |
| 10:26.10 | wendell_ | yeah I got it |
| 10:26.30 | wendell_ | and its still not working, except for beeps and stuff (and those are definantly comeing from the sound card) |
| 10:26.55 | cahoot | wendell_: so what gives when you run alsamixer? |
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| 10:27.19 | wendell_ | it says the sound card I have and a bunch of volume options |
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| 10:27.35 | cahoot | wendell_: so unmute *and* set volume levels |
| 10:27.56 | eegore | My etch has not been updated for 6 months,is ther any reason to do so now? |
| 10:28.12 | eegore | there* |
| 10:28.31 | sid | How can I control my fan that cools my machine?(this is a toshiba laptop) |
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| 10:28.49 | sid | I have acpid installed; but is there a way I can see temperature of cpu/fan speed? and turn it higher/lower. |
| 10:28.58 | sid | I'm using Gnome 2.14 |
| 10:29.00 | wendell_ | hmm.. they are all unmuted |
| 10:29.03 | wendell_ | I will try an mp3 |
| 10:29.09 | wendell_ | via console |
| 10:29.15 | cahoot | wendell_: no - use aplay |
| 10:29.32 | cahoot | wendell_: like aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav |
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| 10:31.10 | wendell_ | oooh that works (: so it is working now, its just my browser thats not allowing sounds |
| 10:31.16 | wendell_ | coolies (: thanks cahoot |
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| 10:31.39 | cahoot | wendell_: np |
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| 10:33.48 | pingouin | using backport for OpenOffice2, i got an error (apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice.org openoffice.org-base) The following packages have unmet dependencies openoffice.org-base: Depends: java-gcj-compat but it is not installable or |
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| 10:34.10 | pingouin | oopss sorry for the flood |
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| 10:35.00 | Haul | Every time I reboot my /dev/hdc2 gets kicked from my RAID1 array and I have to mdadm -a to manually rebuild the array every time. What can cause this? |
| 10:35.03 | pingouin | any idea ? |
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| 10:35.49 | liable | cant build compiz :( |
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| 10:36.04 | liable | Haul: logs say anything? |
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| 10:38.45 | Haul | liable, |
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| 10:41.10 | eegore | has the 64 bit etch improved support for 32 bit apps or are they still lagging a bit |
| 10:41.18 | Haul | my logs aren't old enough to tell :( |
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| 10:45.48 | liable | Haul: whats it say at boot. |
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| 10:49.04 | Haul | liable, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2936 |
| 10:51.01 | liable | Haul: hrm, thats not so helpfull.. did you fault the drive before or has this just started or whats the background behind this? |
| 10:51.29 | Haul | I created the array using the debian installer, and this has always happened from day 1. |
| 10:51.57 | Haul | I shutdown -r now and when the system boots back up, hdc2 is never in the array. |
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| 10:52.36 | Haul | I have another array, /dev/md0 that I use for my /boot, and that doesn't have the problem. |
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| 10:53.11 | simon23 | anybody ever used licq ???? |
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| 10:53.38 | simon23 | and can tell me where the received files are stored ? |
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| 10:53.49 | f00li5h | nap time |
| 10:53.53 | simon23 | or how the filetransfer with licq works? |
| 10:54.30 | liable | Haul: whats mdadm /dev/md1 --query say? |
| 10:55.03 | Haul | It outputs nothing |
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| 10:55.36 | Haul | oh |
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| 10:56.13 | Haul | changing the order to put --query as the first parameter produces http://channels.debian.net/paste/2937 |
| 10:56.13 | jfil | simon23: /join #licq |
| 10:56.26 | simon23 | have done so... they are all mute... |
| 10:56.28 | Haul | I'm in the process of rebuilding the array though. |
| 10:57.11 | Haul | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2938 is probably more useful |
| 10:58.25 | liable | Haul: there must be boot logs of the error. |
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| 10:59.20 | Haul | What I pasted is the only thing in syslog and kern.log. |
| 10:59.35 | pingouin | evaded: and i got : The following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org: Depends: openoffice.org-base (> 2.0.1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages |
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| 11:08.04 | StevenR | can anyone suggest a good init editor? I'd prefer not to edit by hand, and sysvconfig isn't quite what i'm looking for |
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| 11:12.12 | liable | !services |
| 11:12.13 | dpkg | services is, like, to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/, or /etc/services a port numbers list, or http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, or |
| 11:13.35 | StevenR | liable: thanks, I'll check those out once the system has finished doing whatver it's doing |
| 11:14.59 | itchi | services blablabla .... ,or (or what :-p ??) |
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| 11:18.43 | geoaxis | i have a question for linux netwrok admins , profesionals : what linux certfication(if any) would u suggest to an almost college graduate? |
| 11:20.21 | blenda | hi! is it safe to rune fsck on my mounted and running root partition? |
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| 11:21.33 | tarzeau | Coooooooo: yeah. hosting what? |
| 11:21.37 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 11:21.39 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:21.42 | tarzeau | Coooooooo: debian hosts free software... |
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| 11:22.45 | tarzeau | apt nickometer Coooooooo |
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| 11:22.54 | vlt | Hello. I have GRUB installed on /dev/hda and now want to install it to /dev/hdc to make that bootable. I tried "grub-install /dev/hdc" but I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." The file is readable and is trhe same as on another machine. I think grub-install tries to read from /dev/hda which just failed. Ho wto install GRUB to /dev/hdc? |
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| 11:25.20 | muaddib | hi all |
| 11:25.53 | muaddib | i wanted to know what was the best web browser for a very soft config whith Deb 3.1 |
| 11:26.20 | abrotman | soft config? |
| 11:26.31 | abrotman | blenda: no |
| 11:26.36 | icebit | vlt: what for you wish to move it in another partition? |
| 11:26.50 | muaddib | i mean CPU : 300MhZ |
| 11:26.57 | icebit | abrotman: hi (-: |
| 11:26.58 | blenda | abrotman: ok, should i boot from a live cd and then check it? |
| 11:27.07 | muaddib | HD 5Go |
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| 11:27.18 | abrotman | blenda: what do you want to do with it? |
| 11:27.33 | blenda | abauer: i want to run fsck to see if it's damaged |
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| 11:27.52 | abrotman | blenda: touch /forcefsck .... reboot |
| 11:27.54 | blenda | muaddib: unfortunately all decent graphical browser requires lots of ram and cpu |
| 11:27.59 | vlt | icebit: hda just failed and was part of a raid1 array, so everything now runs from hdc. But I think there's no bootloader installed ... |
| 11:28.10 | blenda | abrotman: thanks! i'll try that |
| 11:28.30 | muaddib | blenda> :'( |
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| 11:28.42 | blenda | muaddib: sad but true |
| 11:29.05 | abrotman | muaddib: there are lighter gecko-based browwsers out there |
| 11:29.13 | blenda | yes, epiphany for example |
| 11:29.20 | Dustbuster | hmm, i have debian 3.1, installed fine... all is good, comes to trying to run gdm... i get a blank screen, and the PC beeps at me, then nothing much happens after that |
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| 11:29.28 | abrotman | blenda: that requires gtk ... |
| 11:29.51 | abrotman | dillo might be a bit better |
| 11:30.07 | vlt | icebit: There are syslog entries about the read errors wich caused mdadm to remove the device from the array immediatly. Now I fear a reboot cause grub only exists in hda i think ... |
| 11:30.21 | muaddib | i tryed dillo, but it didn't convince me... |
| 11:30.26 | blenda | abrotman: dillo is also based on gtk |
| 11:30.32 | Dustbuster | i dunno what to do to solve my problem :\ |
| 11:30.35 | blenda | gtk isn't that heavy imho |
| 11:30.40 | abrotman | blenda: yeah it is .. but uses less gnome stuffs |
| 11:30.48 | blenda | abrotman: ok |
| 11:30.48 | abrotman | !depends epiphany-browser |
| 11:30.51 | dpkg | epiphany-browser: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.0), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.10), libavahi-glib1 (>= 0.6.0), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.13.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2), libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.61), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.61), libesd0 (>= 0.2.35) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.35), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libgcc1 (>= ... |
| 11:30.52 | abrotman | !depends dillo |
| 11:30.54 | dpkg | dillo: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8a-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxi6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxrender1 (>> 1:0.9.0-1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), wget |
| 11:31.00 | EdLin | muaddib: try links2 |
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| 11:31.08 | EdLin | muaddib: then run it with "links -g" |
| 11:31.13 | movil | hi all !! |
| 11:31.22 | muaddib | EdLin> gne? |
| 11:31.27 | muaddib | dont understand |
| 11:31.48 | EdLin | muaddib: links -g, links with the option -g |
| 11:31.50 | icebit | vlt: hm, I'am use Suse disk, he allows recovery boot loader and load system from hdc without her bootloader |
| 11:32.04 | muaddib | i spoke about links2 |
| 11:32.20 | icebit | vlt: you load you system? |
| 11:32.26 | blenda | Dustbuster: did you check the x server's log for errors? |
| 11:32.33 | Dustbuster | i cant do much... |
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| 11:32.41 | EdLin | muaddib: sorry, didn't catch that |
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| 11:32.43 | Dustbuster | if i cant get a cli... how can i do stuff? |
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| 11:33.25 | blenda | Dustbuster: try to get to the tty by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 or something |
| 11:33.36 | Dustbuster | mkay |
| 11:33.42 | Dustbuster | *boots PC up* |
| 11:33.52 | Dustbuster | and movil... get a life |
| 11:33.58 | vlt | icebit: System is running now. Loaded from hda's grub. Then later in boot process hda and hdc were combined to an raid1. But hdc looks as if it doens't contain grub ... |
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| 11:35.04 | dayi | I have installed debian testing,while booting it runs root mounting script(/script/top... smt like that) than waits for root filesystem but It cant find it ("cant find root folder /dev/hda2" error is like that) |
| 11:35.23 | Dustbuster | ah ha |
| 11:35.28 | Dustbuster | blenda: i got the tty |
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| 11:35.36 | blenda | Dustbuster: great |
| 11:36.38 | icebit | vlt: don't reboot you system (-: |
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| 11:37.11 | vlt | icebit: (^_~) |
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| 11:39.32 | icebit | vlt: Experiment with the loader by other machine, |
| 11:39.47 | Dustbuster | hmm |
| 11:40.51 | Dustbuster | blenda: the last error in the log is, Couldn't find font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! |
| 11:40.57 | Dustbuster | but i dont think it actually removed.. |
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| 11:41.06 | Dustbuster | cause thats also in the .old log |
| 11:41.37 | blenda | Dustbuster: do you see any other errors? |
| 11:41.47 | Dustbuster | nope |
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| 11:41.54 | blenda | Dustbuster: strange |
| 11:41.57 | vlt | icebit: What do you mean exactly? |
| 11:42.00 | Dustbuster | very |
| 11:42.02 | abrotman | Dustbuster: paste your whole error log somewhere |
| 11:42.04 | abrotman | !paste |
| 11:42.04 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 11:42.10 | Dustbuster | hmm |
| 11:42.13 | Dustbuster | ill try |
| 11:42.42 | nbt | hi i've problems recording audio with my sb live somenone can help ? |
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| 11:43.58 | icebit | vlt: For this purpose I for example, have gone on a visit to the friend, we have killed its loader then have restored mine. Then have restored its loader |
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| 11:44.56 | icebit | vlt: come on! destroy you bootloader! |
| 11:45.09 | icebit | vlt: (-: |
| 11:45.30 | gary | Hey, how do I use ftp, lftp or gftp to connect but use encrypton too? |
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| 11:45.47 | Dustbuster | blenda: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2939 |
| 11:46.07 | blenda | gary: http://tlswrap.sunsite.dk/ <- tlswrap rocks |
| 11:46.23 | gary | thanks blenda ! |
| 11:46.39 | blenda | gary: you're welcome! |
| 11:46.50 | icebit | vlt: info grub-install |
| 11:48.57 | nbt | hi i've problems recording audio with my sb live somenone can help ? |
| 11:49.26 | icebit | vlt: grub-install '/dev/hdc' - maybe |
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| 11:49.55 | vlt | icebit: with quotes? |
| 11:50.17 | itchi | liable: Have i modify the '/msg dpkg services' right ?? |
| 11:50.19 | icebit | vlt: ? |
| 11:50.43 | icebit | vlt: what quotes? |
| 11:51.37 | nbt | help: in a notebook with two fat32 parttions (one with ms windows) and one empty part how can i boot debian withouth placing grub in part1 mbr ? |
| 11:52.01 | vlt | icebit: I wrote "grub-install /dev/hdc" -- you just suggested "grub-install '/dev/hdc'" ... |
| 11:52.22 | itchi | !tell nbt -about ask |
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| 11:52.52 | liable | itchi: did you what? |
| 11:53.20 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.25 | itchi | liable ^^ |
| 11:53.50 | nbt | itchi> ithi i mean i install debian on partition2 and wnat that to boot withouty setting grub onpartition 1 |
| 11:53.53 | itchi | liable: Like there was an ', or' to many at the end of the old '/msg dpkg services' |
| 11:53.53 | nbt | that's all |
| 11:53.57 | Dustbuster | blenda: any ideas? |
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| 11:54.11 | blenda | Dustbuster: i'm reading it right now |
| 11:54.17 | Dustbuster | im running the 2.6.8-2-k7 kernel |
| 11:54.44 | itchi | liable: I have give it an try, and i think it's ok now, but i'm not sure, that's why i ask an king :-p |
| 11:54.52 | vlt | Mmh, something is really going bad here ... Do you know what "smartd[6264]: Device: /dev/hdc, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 253 to 100" in syslog means? |
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| 11:55.28 | sonick | hi |
| 11:55.47 | blenda | Dustbuster: no, i don't see anything wrong there. |
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| 11:56.00 | Dustbuster | :\ |
| 11:56.12 | golly | hi all.... how would I get vncserver to start before anyone has even logged onto the machine? |
| 11:56.21 | Dustbuster | hmmm |
| 11:56.24 | sonick | i'm trying to build the module for my RT2500 based wifi card, but i don't understand the Makefile given by Ralink |
| 11:56.29 | golly | logged in physically I mean |
| 11:56.40 | Dustbuster | blenda: shall i try a startx in the console.. see if the gui loads? |
| 11:56.46 | abrotman | sonick: no INSTALL file ? |
| 11:57.00 | blenda | Dustbuster: i was just about to suggest that :) do /etc/init.d/gdm stop first |
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| 11:57.04 | sonick | i installed the sources of my kernel, and the Makefile try to access to /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686-smp/built |
| 11:57.05 | Dustbuster | kk |
| 11:57.08 | liable | itchi: oh, i was wondering what it was that you changed.. dont ask me about bot stuff, i break it all the time :) |
| 11:57.15 | sonick | abrotman, no install file, just sources |
| 11:57.23 | icebit | vlt: yes, try '/dev/hdc' |
| 11:57.28 | abrotman | sonick: nothing on the website either? |
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| 11:57.39 | itchi | liable: lol ;-) |
| 11:58.02 | sonick | abrotman, in fact there is a readme, but they just tell that it checks in the kernel soiurces directory |
| 11:58.04 | Dustbuster | nope |
| 11:58.09 | Dustbuster | startx gives me a blank screen |
| 11:58.40 | sonick | my question is : why /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686-smp/built, and why I don't have this folder ? |
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| 11:58.44 | abrotman | sonick: if you `apt-cache search 2500` .. find anything ? |
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| 11:58.50 | nbt | how to make debian sarge work on a notebook with ati x700 ? |
| 11:59.05 | blenda | Dustbuster: i have no idea :-( maybe you should ask on the mailing lists? |
| 11:59.07 | sonick | abrotman, I fond something, but not the module required by the kernel |
| 11:59.14 | Dustbuster | prolly |
| 11:59.17 | Dustbuster | :\ |
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| 11:59.29 | Dustbuster | it might be summin with my new motherboard... |
| 11:59.31 | abrotman | sonick: ? |
| 11:59.41 | sonick | abrotman, just wait a minute |
| 11:59.47 | Dustbuster | :\ |
| 11:59.50 | Dustbuster | dunno what it is |
| 11:59.51 | Dustbuster | heh |
| 12:00.13 | sonick | abrotman, apt-cache show rt2500 |
| 12:00.25 | sonick | abrotman, and you will see what it is |
| 12:00.40 | sonick | This package is useless without the appropriate rt2500-modules-x.yy.zz package |
| 12:00.40 | sonick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:01.01 | icebit | vlt: better '/dev/fd0' first, install on fdd and check this, seem "" or '', |
| 12:01.03 | abrotman | sonick: you don't have an rt2500-source package available ? |
| 12:01.16 | sonick | hum :D |
| 12:02.00 | sonick | ok i download it |
| 12:02.14 | TCW | cups-printing is sid is broken here and I absolutley don't get it why or what to do... I purged and reinstalled *cups* to no avail... I always got "error 1024: is the printer suspended?" from various apps, but it definitely is not! Right now /etc/cups/client.conf is not anymore in sid (the file where used to enter the cups-servers name) and for example gnome-cups-manager does not see the printers connected to the cups-server anymore... help! :) |
| 12:02.20 | sonick | but i dunno if it will help |
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| 12:03.09 | sonick | it just create a rt2500.tar.gz abrotman |
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| 12:03.42 | abrotman | sonick: where does it create that ? |
| 12:03.55 | sonick | /usr/src abrotman |
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| 12:04.24 | abrotman | sonick: m-a a-i rt2500 |
| 12:04.24 | sonick | just where I downloaded the sources ! |
| 12:04.42 | sonick | m-a a-i ? what does it mean ? |
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| 12:05.07 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 12:05.07 | dpkg | module-assistant is, like, a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential, or for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 12:06.52 | sonick | abrotman, ok, so module-assistant get rt2500 and module-assistant build rt2500 ? |
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| 12:07.13 | abrotman | yep |
| 12:07.13 | nbt | pls i need to know what to do to get debian booted without setting grub to mbr of partition1 |
| 12:07.38 | abrotman | !grub floppy |
| 12:07.38 | dpkg | i heard grub floppy image is ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 12:08.20 | TCW | mschmitt@elara:~$ CUPS_SERVER=europa.tcw.local gnome-cups-manager <- this shows me the printers on the mentioned host again, but printing a testpage still shows the same error as noted above |
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| 12:09.06 | sonick | oups I didn't have the headers :D |
| 12:09.38 | abrotman | those are important :) |
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| 12:11.37 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.45 | abrotman | nbt: use a liveCD |
| 12:11.58 | abrotman | something that uses grub .. and have it boot your debian |
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| 12:12.26 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.42 | liable | use the install disk.. |
| 12:12.47 | abrotman | there is no debian liveCD .. try ubuntu |
| 12:13.04 | dest_ | or knoppix |
| 12:13.05 | liable | abrotman: there is now actually |
| 12:13.16 | abrotman | !livecd |
| 12:13.17 | dpkg | from memory, livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/, or http://live.debian.net/, or #debian-live on oftc |
| 12:13.26 | abrotman | liable: does it even boot yet? |
| 12:13.31 | sonick | abrotman, ok, the module is built and loaded |
| 12:13.43 | liable | abrotman: dunno, never even looked at it |
| 12:13.45 | nbt | and what i've to do from ubuntu to boot the installed debian on partition 2 ? |
| 12:13.49 | TCW | join #cups |
| 12:13.53 | TCW | err :) |
| 12:13.55 | abrotman | sonick: ok .. happy now? |
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| 12:14.24 | sonick | abrotman, yes, just another question and that would be wonderful |
| 12:14.35 | abrotman | oh sure .. fine .. ask more! |
| 12:14.42 | sonick | :D |
| 12:15.12 | nbt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.15 | sonick | I wanna install the tool provided by ralink to configure the card, this tool (just sources again !) requires Qt/X11 Free Edition |
| 12:15.19 | nbt | i'm not asking for the moon |
| 12:15.23 | sonick | which package is this ?! |
| 12:15.30 | abrotman | nbt: i know .. you'll need some way to boot debian ... |
| 12:15.44 | lilliput | did anyone got this pb with kde 3.5.3 "Couldn't connect DCOP signal. Won't receive any status notifications!" ? |
| 12:15.54 | abrotman | sonick: it wants qt dev files |
| 12:16.05 | nbt | abrotman> and it's exacly what i'm guessing for ;) |
| 12:16.17 | abrotman | sonick: apt-cache search libqt dev .. see anything useful ? |
| 12:16.35 | abrotman | nbt: i told you .. use a liveCD |
| 12:16.46 | sonick | abrotman, hum sounds good |
| 12:17.14 | sonick | wow lots of dependencies ! |
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| 12:17.30 | sonick | 111MB :/ |
| 12:17.42 | abrotman | that all huh .. |
| 12:17.49 | abrotman | yay qt ... |
| 12:17.57 | abrotman | !lart TrollTech |
| 12:18.04 | sonick | abrotman, do you confirm i must install libqt4-dev ? |
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| 12:18.28 | sonick | hum I'll try iwconfig before :D |
| 12:18.59 | abrotman | sonick: that's a good one to start with .. though honestly .. might be better to know which file the porgram is loking for to compile with |
| 12:19.42 | nbt | abrotman>ok but what to do from the livecd ? |
| 12:19.49 | nbt | jsut plug reboot and then ? |
| 12:19.54 | sonick | yes, 111MB is a little too big just to compile a useless utility |
| 12:20.05 | nbt | i don't wanna run the livecd but to boot the installed os |
| 12:20.41 | abrotman | nbt: nope .. use it to boot your debian installation |
| 12:20.44 | sonick | hum strange, my card is in eth1 :/ |
| 12:20.53 | abrotman | sonick: teah .. it runs on KDE krap :) |
| 12:20.59 | sonick | nevermind... |
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| 12:21.04 | sonick | yeap |
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| 12:21.33 | nbt | how do i use it to use it to boot your debian installation |
| 12:21.38 | nbt | ? |
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| 12:22.04 | nbt | i mean i plug ubuntu 6.06 live cd |
| 12:22.06 | nbt | than ? |
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| 12:22.22 | abrotman | tell it to boot your Debian |
| 12:22.29 | nbt | sigh |
| 12:22.30 | scytheman | hi. is there any way to stop lynx/links/links2 doing automatic line breaks? i can't find any option and the maximum value of -width is too small |
| 12:22.45 | nbt | *cries* |
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| 12:23.19 | sonick | nbt, just be patient |
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| 12:23.33 | abrotman | nbt: you can have it read your grub config file from your Debian install even |
| 12:24.46 | nbt | yes but i dunno how that's all ;) |
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| 12:28.21 | sonick | doo |
| 12:28.44 | abrotman | doo |
| 12:28.52 | abrotman | WATCH OUT! |
| 12:28.59 | sonick | i just ran the kde tool for wifi and it says : no access point ! |
| 12:29.11 | abrotman | do you have one? |
| 12:29.15 | sonick | is there something else to configure ?! |
| 12:29.18 | sonick | yes |
| 12:29.30 | abrotman | is the module for the wifi card loaded ? |
| 12:29.54 | sonick | something like 30cm away from the antenna |
| 12:29.59 | sonick | the module is loaded |
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| 12:30.42 | abrotman | move it closer? .. wifi doesn't work over 30cm .. jeez |
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| 12:31.13 | concept10 | is deborphan reliable? |
| 12:31.18 | abrotman | to do what? |
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| 12:31.37 | sonick | abrotman, :D |
| 12:31.41 | concept10 | do its job with out leaving me crying |
| 12:31.53 | sonick | abrotman, i'm trying to configure with another way |
| 12:31.58 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
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| 12:34.03 | concept10 | well |
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| 12:34.59 | jelly-home | concept10: It will do what you tell it to. If you trust the package dependencies, deborphan ought to be reliable. I think doesn't care about Recommends. |
| 12:35.39 | concept10 | jelly-home, thanks for your insight, im really trying to uncruft my system |
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| 12:36.09 | jelly-home | concept10: I found deborphan's defaults to be rather conservative. I prefer debfoster, which _will_ make you cry if you're not careful. |
| 12:36.13 | nbt | is xorg-driver-fglrx good to majke debian sarge work on ati x700 system ? |
| 12:37.21 | RvGaTe^off | Hi, for some reason, after installing sith and rebooting the 1st time it worked, then i did an update and shut it down, then this morning i tried to boot, and it could open the root file system on startup..., any ideas? or should i just reinstall? |
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| 12:38.08 | concept10 | jelly-home, that was one of the main reasons I moved to linux, I dont like to have my system cluttered |
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| 12:39.10 | pumpkin0 | somebody in here using experimental ? Is glibc 2.3.999 really a glibc 2.4 and is it running w/o hiccups ? |
| 12:39.34 | blenda | my computer hands frequently and i get weird messages about my ram chips: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2940. how can i find out for sure if it's the ram that is the problem? memtest takes forever to finish! |
| 12:40.35 | pumpkin0 | memtest NEVER finishs. It runs forever or till the PC crashs. If it finds one single error => dead ram |
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| 12:42.03 | pumpkin0 | pumpkin0: blenda you could try the prime95 toture test. It may find the errors faster. |
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| 12:42.31 | blenda | pumpkin0: ok! i'll try that |
| 12:42.48 | james_null | hello everybody, setterm with parameter -default does not keep rendering option after a nano execution for exemple |
| 12:43.14 | pumpkin0 | blenda: and let memtest run overnight. usually memtest finds everything after 4-6 hours. |
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| 12:44.55 | blenda | pumpkin0: ok. it ran for 5 hours yesterday without finding anything wrong. |
| 12:45.42 | pumpkin0 | blenda: well... do the same test with prime95. |
| 12:45.50 | claymade | im having a problem getting x windows to run, its giving me the No Screens Found error for starters, but its also doing something weird |
| 12:46.03 | blenda | pumpkin0: where do i choose prime95? |
| 12:46.20 | pumpkin0 | claymade: post your config and log files somwhere. |
| 12:46.25 | claymade | the linux prompt, about every 15 seconds, the entire screen flashes off and on, in which case the keyboard doesent work |
| 12:46.32 | claymade | erm, i cant really do that seeing as its on another PC |
| 12:46.52 | nagulator | hello debbers |
| 12:46.58 | claymade | and the computers hard enough to use with it flashing on and off every 10-15 seconds |
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| 12:47.10 | TCW | can someone confirm that sids cups does not work with a sarge cups-server? |
| 12:47.16 | claymade | (this started happening after I used aptitude to install X) |
| 12:47.35 | claymade | is there something i can look for particularly that would help? |
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| 12:47.51 | raf256 | I only use weed, no heroine - am I drugged enought to use Debian/HURD? |
| 12:47.54 | pumpkin0 | blenda: http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm (should be called mprime or something like that. |
| 12:48.10 | raf256 | accoding to Linus Torvalds opinion on drugged HURD devels |
| 12:48.37 | pumpkin0 | claymade: can you reach the single-uer-mode ? |
| 12:48.56 | claymade | forgive me, im a novice at this, what do you mean? |
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| 12:49.13 | claymade | i cant get any results with X or startx |
| 12:49.42 | pumpkin0 | claymade: reboot. You see a list with stuff to choose from. one is marked "fail-safe" or "single-user". choose that one. |
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| 12:50.09 | claymade | it gives me the error, No Screens, the error is (EE) No Devices Detected tho |
| 12:50.25 | claymade | alright, ill do that |
| 12:50.39 | claymade | anyways, further info quick before i forget (been fudging with this all night) |
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| 12:50.55 | claymade | its an NVidia GeForce 6800GT |
| 12:51.02 | claymade | im using nv as the driver |
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| 12:51.17 | blenda | pumpkin0: what? that seems to me like a tool for finding prime numbers |
| 12:51.31 | pumpkin0 | claymade: so your config-file is not "right". to find out you more you need to read the log-files /var/log/xorg0.log or /var/log/XFree.0.log. |
| 12:52.04 | claymade | alright, i read ONE of them already, and it appeared to just mirror the error i was getting with no additional information |
| 12:52.10 | pumpkin0 | blenda: yes. and it has a build in test (torture test) to verify the hardware before digging for prime numbers. |
| 12:52.13 | claymade | i havent checked xorg0 yet though, ill take a look |
| 12:52.38 | pumpkin0 | claymade: there is always just one, depending if you are using xorg or xfree |
| 12:52.46 | blenda | pumpkin0: ok, but it's not free software |
| 12:53.27 | claymade | yea, xorg0 doesent exist |
| 12:53.42 | claymade | the other one prints the same data apparently as the error, is there anything particular i should be looking out for? |
| 12:54.14 | pumpkin0 | blenda: it is free, you can download the whole thing here: ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/sprime2414.tar.gz |
| 12:54.30 | raf256 | speaking of |
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| 12:54.36 | pumpkin0 | claymade: lines starting with (WW) or yet better (EE) |
| 12:54.38 | raf256 | why there is no debian package for primes? |
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| 12:55.08 | claymade | yea, the EE said no devices detected |
| 12:55.22 | dvs | claymade: And before that? |
| 12:55.26 | claymade | lemme check |
| 12:55.29 | sonick | houston, we have a problem :D |
| 12:55.37 | blenda | pumpkin0: there's no source code |
| 12:55.40 | pumpkin0 | claymade: ok, it cannot find something. Now post the 2-3 lines around that one ... |
| 12:56.33 | claymade | its all (II) before that |
| 12:56.38 | claymade | and no screens found after that |
| 12:56.45 | pumpkin0 | blenda: why do you need the source code ? it´s a precompiled binary. |
| 12:57.08 | claymade | it lists all the nvidea cards before that |
| 12:57.28 | dvs | claymade: Post the file using pastebin.ca |
| 12:57.31 | claymade | and then says (II) Primary Device |
| 12:57.41 | pumpkin0 | claymade: it may not find your gfx, your screen, your mouse or even your freaking keyboard. that´s why everybody wants you to post the whole log-file. |
| 12:57.42 | claymade | dvs: posting the file really isnt possiable, the device is not hooked up to the net |
| 12:57.50 | claymade | dvs: and is highly unstable to boot |
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| 12:58.13 | efaistos | hi |
| 12:58.23 | claymade | even if there is no II or WW? |
| 12:58.29 | claymade | i mean no WW or EE other then |
| 12:58.29 | efaistos | what are the pkgs to install to have java in firefox ? |
| 12:58.34 | claymade | the one? |
| 12:58.36 | pumpkin0 | claymade: yupp |
| 12:58.52 | valdyn | claymade: your gfx card is probably not supported your X |
| 12:59.13 | blenda | pumpkin0: my point is that it's not Free software http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html |
| 12:59.15 | claymade | a high end geforce isnt supported? its listed in the nv i believe |
| 12:59.33 | valdyn | claymade: no, just yours probably isnt listed |
| 12:59.44 | claymade | well what can I do about that? |
| 12:59.47 | valdyn | claymade: and 6800GT is certainly not high end anyway |
| 12:59.57 | claymade | i meant popular, sorry |
| 13:00.03 | claymade | highly popular card |
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| 13:00.21 | valdyn | claymade: you're on sarge right? |
| 13:00.29 | claymade | yea, latest stable |
| 13:00.54 | valdyn | claymade: use the vesa driver or use the xorg backport from http://www.backports.org/ |
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| 13:01.14 | pumpkin0 | blenda: you want your hardware testet for free, or you want to follow all gnu-rules ? |
| 13:01.17 | james_null | hello everybody, i would like setterm to be runned at terminal initilisation when booting, is this possible with debian please ? |
| 13:01.21 | claymade | so if vesa fails its something else? |
| 13:01.24 | claymade | (other then video) |
| 13:01.24 | claymade | ? |
| 13:01.40 | blenda | pumpkin0: i want to follow all gnu rules of course |
| 13:01.42 | valdyn | claymade: just try vesa |
| 13:01.44 | pumpkin0 | claymade: it may be a borked config file ... |
| 13:01.48 | claymade | alright, brb |
| 13:03.11 | pumpkin0 | blenda: http://www.mersenne.org/source.htm . better ? |
| 13:03.23 | valdyn | claymade: i do have a gf6800gt btw, and i seem to recall that the nv driver didnt support it |
| 13:03.36 | valdyn | claymade: and you may want to use the proprietary nvidia driver also |
| 13:03.43 | valdyn | !nvidia driver |
| 13:03.47 | valdyn | !nvidia |
| 13:03.47 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 13:03.56 | blenda | pumpkin0: thanks :) |
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| 13:04.28 | claymade | ok, 2 things happened |
| 13:04.30 | pumpkin0 | blenda: these license is more or less BSD, which is more liberal then GPL/gnu. |
| 13:04.49 | claymade | i changed it to vesa |
| 13:05.14 | Harley^ | http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/dists/testing/main/source/Sources.gz Could not connect to debian.csail.mit.edu:80 (128.30.2.36). - connect (111 Connection refused) Would someone please tell me where a mirror is for obtaining sources ? Thanks. |
| 13:05.15 | claymade | now when x attempts to run (or the screen flashes, which now i believe to be X attempting to start since its configured on run level 2) |
| 13:05.17 | azeem | where "more liberal" == "more liberal for companies", not "more liberal for Free Software" |
| 13:05.27 | claymade | anyways, when X attempts to start , the screen is all garbled |
| 13:05.46 | claymade | and it shows some EE mouse errors |
| 13:05.48 | pumpkin0 | azeem: *g* |
| 13:06.13 | valdyn | claymade: thats an additional unrelated error |
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| 13:06.21 | valdyn | !mouse |
| 13:06.21 | dpkg | from memory, mouse is if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG, or http://www.experiencescompany.com/SentImages/Bless%20This%20Mouse.jpg |
| 13:06.27 | claymade | yea, i thought so |
| 13:06.46 | claymade | so what about the video? |
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| 13:06.51 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 13:06.52 | valdyn | claymade: which mouse device did you pick? which type of mouse is it? usb? ps/2 ? |
| 13:06.55 | claymade | yes |
| 13:07.00 | dvs | claymade: probably the wrong frequencies for your monitor |
| 13:07.03 | claymade | ps/2, and everything else is set to default |
| 13:07.26 | ArchitectSinan | i want to install "glibc-headers" for my debian sarge 3.1r1 box. Do you know what is the apt-get command to do this ? |
| 13:07.28 | valdyn | claymade: your X will not start when it finds no mouse, your screen may get garbled by X aborting, you dont need to fix that probably |
| 13:07.31 | pumpkin0 | claymade: set everything to "auto" (or dpms in case of the frequency) and try again. |
| 13:07.55 | pumpkin0 | ArchitectSinan: guessed: apt-get install libc-dev |
| 13:07.56 | james_null | hello everybody, do you know the equivalent of rc.M on debian please ? |
| 13:08.11 | valdyn | claymade: which device node did you pick for your mouse in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 13:08.34 | valdyn | james_null: what is rc.M ? |
| 13:08.55 | ArchitectSinan | pumpkin0: yep i found it's libc6-dev . thx :) |
| 13:09.13 | claymade | ' /dev/input/mice is the default, is that good? |
| 13:09.23 | valdyn | claymade: lsmod | grep mousedev |
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| 13:09.32 | dvs | claymade: that's good |
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| 13:10.31 | claymade | would the emulating 3 button mouse have anything to do with it? |
| 13:11.00 | sonick | My wifi connection doesn't works |
| 13:11.11 | sonick | i think the problem is the access point adress |
| 13:11.34 | valdyn | claymade: just do what i said.. |
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| 13:11.43 | sonick | when I do an /etc/init.d/networking restart i get a |
| 13:11.44 | sonick | Sending on LPF/eth1/00:11:50:8f:e5:1f |
| 13:11.44 | sonick | Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net |
| 13:11.44 | sonick | DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 |
| 13:11.52 | sonick | and loits of DHCP requests |
| 13:11.58 | claymade | alright, will do |
| 13:12.00 | valdyn | !tell sonick -about paste |
| 13:12.09 | sonick | but my access point is at 00:16:CE:18:BB:7B |
| 13:12.32 | sonick | valdyn, sorry, but I just paste the essential informations |
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| 13:12.33 | dvs | sonick: but it says SENDING on. |
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| 13:12.56 | valdyn | sonick: that LPF/eth1/00:11:50:8f:e5:1f is not your AP, its eth1 |
| 13:13.07 | claymade | valydn, did that, nothing happened (restarted X aswell) |
| 13:13.14 | sonick | valdyn, ok |
| 13:13.20 | valdyn | claymade: 'modprobe mousedev' |
| 13:13.22 | claymade | i did notice that one of the errors was that it could not open the dev/input/mice |
| 13:13.26 | james_null | valdyn: slackware's /etc/rc.d/rc.M, if i add setterm line in this file, it runs it at booting |
| 13:13.44 | jelly-home | does gnome or kde provide a two-dimensional pager like fvwm? |
| 13:13.48 | sonick | but the DHCP can't get an adress |
| 13:13.50 | valdyn | james_null: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh or even better, create your own |
| 13:14.01 | raf256` | jelly-home: KDE do, add an applet Paget to panel |
| 13:14.02 | james_null | valdyn: thank you :) |
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| 13:14.35 | sonick | I cannot tell what's wrong |
| 13:14.41 | claymade | valdyn, ok, i did that, the next time it flashed going into X, it actualy made it |
| 13:14.50 | claymade | i pressed esc and got to the prompt |
| 13:14.56 | valdyn | claymade: meaning that X works now? |
| 13:14.56 | claymade | the mouse though , doesent work |
| 13:15.02 | valdyn | claymade: ops |
| 13:15.05 | claymade | well, the mouse doesent appear to work |
| 13:15.14 | valdyn | claymade: X runs but your mouse does not move? |
| 13:15.18 | claymade | exactly |
| 13:15.27 | valdyn | !psmouse |
| 13:15.51 | valdyn | claymade: type 'cat /dev/input/mice' and move your mouse around, garbage should be printed on your screen |
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| 13:16.08 | claymade | how can i get out of the login prompt? whats the shortcut |
| 13:16.22 | valdyn | claymade: ctrl-alt-f1 |
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| 13:17.44 | claymade | nothings happening (with the cat) |
| 13:17.52 | sonick | here is my /etc/network/interfaces : http://pastebin.ca/71220 |
| 13:18.15 | valdyn | claymade: looks like your mouse is probably broken or not plugged in properly |
| 13:18.17 | sonick | I deactivated the WEP encryption for the tests |
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| 13:18.35 | claymade | its tested on windows |
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| 13:18.57 | valdyn | claymade: uname -r |
| 13:19.06 | dockane | hi all... i am looking for irssi-dev (stable) but cant find it. is there any reason for that? |
| 13:19.16 | Harley^ | Where are the sources repositories for apt-get update for AMD64 ? |
| 13:19.19 | claymade | also, out of curiosity, am i going to have to add anything to the config or startx or anything to make sure all this happends each time? |
| 13:19.37 | valdyn | claymade: not before we know what your error is and things work |
| 13:20.19 | valdyn | claymade: try 'cat /dev/psaux' too |
| 13:20.22 | claymade | 2.4.27.2.386 |
| 13:20.55 | claymade | alright, psaux looks like its working |
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| 13:21.01 | claymade | datas coming in |
| 13:21.03 | claymade | anyways |
| 13:21.17 | valdyn | claymade: alright, then change your X configuration to use that |
| 13:21.23 | claymade | alright |
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| 13:22.09 | pumpkin0 | sonick: can post the output of "iwconfig" ? |
| 13:22.21 | valdyn | sonick: is your wireless interface assiciated to your AP ? |
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| 13:22.27 | claymade | for a 3 button with scroller, which option should i use? |
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| 13:23.00 | valdyn | claymade: nothing that isnt obvious in 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 13:23.06 | blenda | claymade: then you need not emulate 3 buttons |
| 13:23.13 | dvs | claymade: ImPS/2 for Protocol |
| 13:23.17 | claymade | thanks dvs |
| 13:23.17 | sonick | pumpkin0, http://pastebin.ca/71225 |
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| 13:23.30 | dvs | claymade: also, Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 13:23.45 | sonick | valdyn, what do you mean ? Sorry I don't understand (maybe because i'm french ?!) |
| 13:23.49 | valdyn | dvs: he shouldnt be editing his config manually |
| 13:24.09 | dvs | valdyn: Can you add the ZAxisMapping option using drxx? |
| 13:24.23 | golly | anyone knows about run levels? I need to start vncserver before I log in, and don't know which run level to run it on |
| 13:24.29 | valdyn | sonick: your useing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, right? there's not many questions asked, dont use 3rd mouse button emulation, answer yes to use mouse wheel, that is it |
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| 13:24.40 | valdyn | dvs: yea, its a yes/no question |
| 13:24.49 | dvs | ok |
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| 13:25.14 | pumpkin0 | sonick: your WLAN-card is trying to use WEP-encrpytion. remove all wireless-lines from /etc/networking/interfaces and try again (/etc/init.d/netwroking restart) |
| 13:25.33 | valdyn | golly: that's a bad idea |
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| 13:25.45 | valdyn | golly: better use your cron daemon |
| 13:25.52 | golly | valdyn: why? saves me a keyboard and moniter |
| 13:25.55 | blenda | !tell golly about runlevels |
| 13:26.08 | valdyn | golly: useing runlevels for that is a bad idea |
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| 13:26.27 | golly | valdyn: using cron will trigger it ONCE???? |
| 13:26.36 | jelly-home | valdyn: maybe he means using inittab, not exactly run levels |
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| 13:26.42 | valdyn | golly: yea, man crontab, see @reboot |
| 13:27.07 | blenda | or maybe put the script in /etc/rcS.d/ ? |
| 13:27.07 | sonick | pumpkin0, same results |
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| 13:27.20 | valdyn | golly: and use crontab -e as USER to add it |
| 13:27.33 | golly | valdyn: I'll check it out |
| 13:27.34 | pumpkin0 | sonick: still the same output from iwconfig with a line "Encryption key:3..." ? |
| 13:27.47 | sonick | yes |
| 13:27.56 | sonick | strange |
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| 13:29.02 | pumpkin0 | sonick: run: "iwconfig eth1 key open", "iwconfig eth0 key off". |
| 13:29.06 | dockane | why is irssi-dev only as backport for sarge available? |
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| 13:29.20 | pumpkin0 | sonick: .. mae that 2x eth1, not eth0 |
| 13:29.21 | Harley^ | Is http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/ available any longer ? |
| 13:29.49 | claymade | hey thanks, its running now |
| 13:29.53 | valdyn | Harley^: probably, you should in any case not use it |
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| 13:29.59 | claymade | now just need to get the sound up |
| 13:30.00 | claymade | lol |
| 13:30.05 | sonick | iwconfig eth1 enc off did the job, but same result for dhcp request |
| 13:30.06 | dvs | claymade: even the mouse wheel? |
| 13:30.12 | valdyn | Harley^: that is, unless you use sarge |
| 13:30.13 | dvs | claymade: what sound card? |
| 13:30.24 | pumpkin0 | sonick: can you post the output of iwconfig again ? |
| 13:30.58 | dvs | claymade: actually, you can start with "apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r)" |
| 13:31.01 | claymade | some soundblaster |
| 13:31.01 | valdyn | Harley^: its available btw |
| 13:31.06 | Harley^ | valdyn, Would you please suggest an alternative site ? |
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| 13:31.15 | sonick | pumpkin0, http://pastebin.ca/71227 |
| 13:31.15 | claymade | dev/dsp no device |
| 13:31.18 | valdyn | Harley^: not yet, do you use sarge? |
| 13:31.21 | pumpkin0 | claymade: "lspci -v" gives you more info about the card |
| 13:31.24 | claymade | just install also? |
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| 13:31.33 | dvs | claymade: for starters |
| 13:31.47 | Harley^ | valdyn, I have Etch AMD64, I believe |
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| 13:32.08 | valdyn | Harley^: just run apt-setup |
| 13:32.17 | dvs | claymade: actually "apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r) alsa-utils" |
| 13:32.33 | valdyn | Harley^: you dont need 'special' repositories for amd64 anymore, amd64 is officially in debian since etch |
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| 13:33.20 | pumpkin0 | sonick: "iwconfig eth1 essid any" ... and double check you disabled the WEP on the WLAN-router as well. |
| 13:33.28 | jelly-home | wasn't there a "what module for ..." factoid? I can't find it. |
| 13:33.31 | golly | hey valdyn how would I put that command into my crontab? |
| 13:33.37 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 13:33.37 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 13:33.43 | valdyn | jelly-home: ^^^ |
| 13:33.51 | golly | valdyn : vncserver |
| 13:33.57 | claymade | Creative Labs SB Audigy |
| 13:34.03 | claymade | (rev 4) |
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| 13:34.18 | valdyn | !alsa 2.4 |
| 13:34.19 | dpkg | First, you need to build the ALSA modules for your kernel. apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential debhelper; then read "man m-a". Finally, ask me about <alsa>. |
| 13:34.28 | jelly-home | valdyn: there was this pretty lspci | awk | grep modules.map oneliner thingy |
| 13:34.34 | claymade | alright, so ill need alsa for this |
| 13:34.45 | dvs | modules-assistant? for what? |
| 13:34.54 | cahoot | claymade: you *want* alsa for it |
| 13:34.56 | Harley^ | valdyn, Thank you. |
| 13:34.57 | valdyn | claymade: that factoid is misleading, your should not need to compile modules |
| 13:35.08 | valdyn | !listkeys driver |
| 13:35.10 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'driver' by key (15 of 41): _default ati drivers ;; _default driver ;; _default radeon drivers ;; _default whatdriver (.*?) ;; alsadriver ;; boot disk drivers ;; driver ;; driver disks ;; driver locator ;; drivers ;; netdrivers ;; nvidia-graphics-drivers ;; proprietary drivers ;; radeon drivers ;; winmodem driver. |
| 13:35.24 | cahoot | claymade: if a 2.6 kernel just run alsaconf |
| 13:35.25 | valdyn | !driver locator |
| 13:35.25 | dpkg | i heard driver locator is http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ will tell you what drivers you need if your computer has PCI |
| 13:35.32 | Harley^ | I have difficulties getting to csail for some reason but another site works. |
| 13:35.33 | valdyn | !drivers |
| 13:35.34 | dpkg | drivers are pieces of software to "drive" your friggin hardware |
| 13:35.34 | claymade | ok, so can I just do aptitude for alsa? |
| 13:35.38 | Harley^ | again, thank you. |
| 13:35.59 | claymade | *use aptitude to install everything also related |
| 13:36.03 | valdyn | claymade: apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-modules-$(uname -r) |
| 13:36.08 | jelly-home | valdyn: hcl link works too, thanks |
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| 13:36.14 | valdyn | claymade: or replace apt-get witha ptitude |
| 13:36.15 | claymade | ok, thanks valdyn |
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| 13:36.17 | sonick | pumpkin0, I allready checked for the WEP protection, it is well removed |
| 13:36.47 | sonick | pumpkin0, but the 'iwconfig eth1 essid any' doesn't show any changes on iwcinfig |
| 13:37.14 | pumpkin0 | sonick: there are only 2 things that may go wrong now: the essid or the range of your WLAN.... |
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| 13:37.49 | valdyn | sonick: what is the chipset on your wlan interface |
| 13:38.20 | sonick | a rt2500 ralink |
| 13:38.23 | jelly-home | valdyn: found it, !which module for ... |
| 13:38.52 | sonick | so it is well supported by linux... |
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| 13:38.54 | valdyn | sonick: ifconfig <iface> down; modprobe -r rt2500; modprobe rt2500 |
| 13:38.55 | claymade | now will i need to restart the sound server or what? |
| 13:38.58 | Harley^ | valdyn, Do you think apt-get dist-upgrade would work for AMD64 Etch that was installed as Linux MYBOXNAME 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 |
| 13:39.03 | dvs | claymade: no, alsaconf |
| 13:39.23 | claymade | even tho it has me pointing to the NULL device? |
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| 13:39.55 | golly | valdyn: just put this line into crontab @reboot /etc/init.d/vncserver.sh ... is that right? |
| 13:39.55 | golly | doesn't work |
| 13:40.03 | dvs | claymade: you need to run alsaconf as root to load the proper kernel modules |
| 13:40.14 | valdyn | Harley^: some etch packages need a newer kernel |
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| 13:40.31 | pumpkin0 | somebody in here using experimental ? Is glibc 2.3.999 really a glibc 2.4 and is it running w/o hiccups ? |
| 13:40.33 | valdyn | golly: no |
| 13:40.53 | claymade | su runs it as root correct? or is that just with root permissions? |
| 13:40.53 | golly | valdyn: then? |
| 13:41.09 | dvs | claymade: su would work too |
| 13:41.09 | valdyn | golly: first, your dont edit /etc/crontab but use 'crontab -e' as USER, secondly your users vncserver.sh script has no business being in /etc/init.d/ |
| 13:41.10 | sonick | wow it seems modprobe doesn't want to unload the module :/ |
| 13:41.25 | claymade | once i have done that , how do I test it? |
| 13:41.35 | Harley^ | valdyn, Excellent answer ! I had some fear that I will have to fiddle with quite a few things to upgrade this machine. :) Again, thanks. |
| 13:41.37 | claymade | i mean is there a quick thing |
| 13:41.40 | claymade | i can do? |
| 13:41.44 | pumpkin0 | sonick: unload everything that depends on it first. |
| 13:42.19 | sonick | and how do I see that ? |
| 13:42.20 | dvs | claymade: I do "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" but there's a program that can do something similir which I can't remember |
| 13:42.25 | valdyn | Harley^: useing apt-get upgrade before dist-upgrade should make it easier to see potential problems later on |
| 13:42.26 | sonick | fuzer ? |
| 13:42.34 | golly | valdyn: I put it there when I was playing with boot levels |
| 13:42.41 | pumpkin0 | pumpkin0: lsmod |
| 13:42.48 | golly | valdyn: doesn't need to be there, no. |
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| 13:43.08 | Harley^ | valdyn, Because it pulls the latest sources to upgrade. Correct ? |
| 13:43.13 | viyyer | I am having a problem with my sound card in debian |
| 13:43.18 | viyyer | it works fine in ubuntu |
| 13:43.21 | valdyn | Harley^: no, apt-get update does that |
| 13:43.22 | viyyer | when in debian |
| 13:43.30 | sonick | pumpkin0, there is nothing |
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| 13:43.49 | viyyer | in alsamixer I am unable raide the master volume control |
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| 13:43.58 | valdyn | golly: that @reboot line looks fine |
| 13:44.11 | cahoot | viyyer: what card? |
| 13:44.26 | valdyn | pumpkin0: you shouldnt use experimental if you have to ask newbie questions like that |
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| 13:44.55 | pumpkin0 | valdyn: i just want to test xgl, which needs glibc 2.4 |
| 13:45.08 | Harley^ | valdyn, Does the update bring the 'standard' portions up to date and then the dist-update bring the more customized portions up to date ? |
| 13:45.15 | viyyer | 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
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| 13:45.22 | viyyer | cahoot, 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 13:45.50 | valdyn | Harley^: read the manpage for details, quick and dirty: upgrade will _only_ upgrade packages, dist-upgrade is allowed to add / remove additional new dependencies |
| 13:46.04 | Harley^ | I see. |
| 13:46.24 | EdLin | Harley^: and update makes apt-get use the latest databases for upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 13:46.30 | viyyer | cahoot, the modules seem to load fine.. it's just the master volume always staying 0 |
| 13:46.34 | claymade | im not getting any sound, checked alsa-mixer its ok, checked the hardware of course |
| 13:46.35 | cahoot | viyyer: what does cat /proc/asound/version return? |
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| 13:46.49 | valdyn | claymade: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav |
| 13:46.55 | Harley^ | OK... Well, next week I think I will take the approach you have suggested. apt-get update and then apt-get dist-update |
| 13:47.00 | viyyer | cahoot, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC). |
| 13:47.11 | golly | valdyn: I'm lost man..... how do I enter it using crontab -e? |
| 13:47.13 | Harley^ | EdLin good stuff ! :) |
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| 13:47.34 | valdyn | golly: i dont understand your issue |
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| 13:48.06 | golly | valdyn: I need to start vncserver so I don't need to log in and manually start it |
| 13:48.12 | valdyn | golly: you just run 'crontab -e' and that command will open the private crontab of that user, and you just add that line |
| 13:48.15 | cahoot | viyyer: and alsamixer gives no error just refuses to move the soundlevel? |
| 13:48.27 | viyyer | cahoot, yes |
| 13:48.40 | claymade | no sound |
| 13:48.44 | valdyn | golly: yea, i know, i just didnt understand what your issue is using 'crontab -e' |
| 13:48.46 | viyyer | cahoot, yes |
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| 13:48.59 | valdyn | claymade: aplay reports that its playing back stuff though? |
| 13:48.59 | golly | valdyn: what if I'm root always? |
| 13:49.05 | viyyer | cahoot, sometime back I could control the volume with aumix |
| 13:49.09 | Harley^ | Will apt-get update also update the KERNEL to a newer edition ? Will I have to make changes to grub before I reboot ? |
| 13:49.13 | valdyn | golly: why the hell would you be root always? |
| 13:49.13 | viyyer | now I cant do that either |
| 13:49.19 | claymade | yes, it does |
| 13:49.37 | cahoot | viyyer: does fuser -v /dev/dsp and fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm* return anything? |
| 13:49.37 | golly | valdyn: so I can be root when I log into vnc! |
| 13:49.46 | valdyn | golly: jesus christ, dont do that |
| 13:49.56 | tiagosab | Hi! How can I send a message to all logged users, in X (through zenity) and in console? |
| 13:50.03 | valdyn | golly: logging in as root is only used where its required |
| 13:50.12 | viyyer | cahoot, none |
| 13:50.18 | Tallu | tiagosab: wall for console atleast |
| 13:50.19 | golly | valdyn: OK.....so I log in as guest and su when I need to. |
| 13:50.21 | Harley^ | Welp ! gotta go. Thanks again for the help ! :) |
| 13:50.28 | valdyn | golly: yes |
| 13:50.32 | claymade | aplay shows its playing, alsamixer shows everything except for 3d turned on |
| 13:50.33 | valdyn | golly: or use sudo |
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| 13:50.46 | golly | valdyn: OK I'll try crontab -e on guest |
| 13:51.27 | valdyn | claymade: you need to a) unmute and b) turn up volume and c) have speakers and cabling set up properly |
| 13:51.33 | dvs | claymade: and it shows "OO" at the bottom of each volume bar? |
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| 13:51.43 | claymade | i turned up volume and checked the harware |
| 13:51.44 | cahoot | viyyer: if you run 'invoke-rc.d alsa restart' get any error msg? |
| 13:51.59 | valdyn | claymade: just unmuting left then |
| 13:52.09 | claymade | how do you do that? |
| 13:52.17 | viyyer | cahoot, Usage: /etc/init.d/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}invoke-rc.d: initscript alsa, action "restart" failed. |
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| 13:52.25 | viyyer | cahoot, that's the message |
| 13:52.34 | valdyn | claymade: in alsamixer with the 'M' key |
| 13:52.43 | cahoot | claymade: this an audigy? then if all else fails - toggle Digital/Analog output jack |
| 13:52.46 | tiagosab | Tallu: I know bout wall, but what for X? |
| 13:52.47 | dvs | claymade: at each volume bar |
| 13:52.48 | valdyn | claymade: MM = muted, OO = unmuted |
| 13:52.49 | golly | valdyn: crontab -e gets me into vim and I don't know how to exit! |
| 13:52.58 | golly | valdyn: save AND then exit |
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| 13:53.05 | claymade | thats in alsa mixer? |
| 13:53.17 | dvs | claymade: yes |
| 13:53.18 | cahoot | viyyer: try 'invoke-rc.d alsa reload' |
| 13:53.26 | valdyn | golly: Esc-:-x to save and exit |
| 13:53.37 | valdyn | golly: 1 key after the other, not together |
| 13:53.44 | viyyer | cahoot, Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-ac97-bus snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device. |
| 13:53.44 | viyyer | Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-via82xx snd-ac97-codec snd-ac97-bus snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device. |
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| 13:54.01 | valdyn | golly: i to enter edit mode, Esc to enter command mode |
| 13:55.05 | claymade | ok, only tone and 3d were muted, i unmuted them |
| 13:55.12 | claymade | tested again, still no sound |
| 13:55.18 | cahoot | claymade: this an audigy? then if all else fails - toggle Digital/Analog output jack |
| 13:55.18 | claymade | tested speakers again, they work |
| 13:55.22 | valdyn | golly: you may want to use update-alternatives to pick a different editor |
| 13:55.33 | claymade | cahoot: yes, how do you do that? |
| 13:55.35 | dvs | claymade: Master and PCM are unmuted? |
| 13:55.38 | claymade | yes |
| 13:55.42 | claymade | they were to begin with dva |
| 13:55.43 | claymade | dvs |
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| 13:55.57 | roxy_ | what is wrong with: deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 13:56.09 | valdyn | roxy_: non-US is obsolete, dont use it |
| 13:56.19 | roxy_ | valdyn: thanks |
| 13:56.34 | golly | valdyn: yeah I'm lost in vim... propellor head territory sorry |
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| 13:57.07 | sonick | pumpkin0, http://pastebin.ca/71243 |
| 13:57.27 | cahoot | claymade: in alsamixer |
| 13:57.33 | golly | valdyn: I tried to save and exit, then used crontab -u guest -l to read me back the contents....it said it was empty |
| 13:57.41 | golly | valdyn: wtf? |
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| 13:58.10 | claymade | how do you change digital to analog in alsamixer? |
| 13:58.14 | viyyer | cahoot, is there a solution ?? |
| 13:58.19 | claymade | i dont see anything that says either? |
| 13:58.22 | roxy_ | valdyn: is the rest of : http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html up to date ? (it is just a couple of command and a preferences file) |
| 13:58.31 | viyyer | cahoot, does getting most recent alsa help ? |
| 13:58.32 | cahoot | claymade: in alsamixer - hit 'm' (or maybe space) |
| 13:58.39 | thingfish | claymade: I use gnome-alsamixer, which has a handy digital/analog switch right on the main screen. |
| 13:59.45 | sonick | pumpkin0, but the same for dhcp |
| 14:00.00 | cahoot | viyyer: by the looks of it alsa is running ok - I haven't found any recent bugs re snd-via82xx and you version of alsa |
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| 14:00.51 | viyyer | cahoot, seems like unreported bug ? |
| 14:00.51 | viyyer | should I file one ? |
| 14:01.24 | sonick | pumpkin0, maybe I could try a static ip for eth |
| 14:01.30 | viyyer | cahoot, how can I get it working ? |
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| 14:01.39 | valdyn | roxy_: no idea, but mixing and matching as this guy suggest is in my opinion less stable than just running unstable debian |
| 14:01.40 | cahoot | viyyer: was just informational |
| 14:01.41 | claymade | I dont see anything that says digital/analog, and i tried hitting both m and space |
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| 14:02.08 | cahoot | claymade: this is an audigy or? |
| 14:02.17 | claymade | yes, its an audigy |
| 14:02.23 | asd26 | how do i add sources to debian? |
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| 14:03.31 | roxy_ | valdyn: even if I use testing and only want a couple of unstable package ? |
| 14:03.45 | cahoot | claymade: and you've moved to the right end of alsamixers display? |
| 14:04.45 | claymade | you can move on it? |
| 14:04.53 | cahoot | claymade: grep -A 5 -i jack /var/lib/alsa/asound.state' |
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| 14:04.58 | claymade | im not using gnome-alsamixer, just ordinary alsa mixer |
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| 14:07.04 | viyyer | cahoot, I'm getthte latest source |
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| 14:07.36 | viyyer | cahoot, is there any other way of doing things without doing this ? |
| 14:08.06 | cahoot | viyyer: sorry - don't know why it doesn't work as expected |
| 14:08.41 | viyyer | cahoot, stranger thing is about the volume control |
| 14:09.33 | viyyer | cahoot, http://picfu.com/pic/show/216.e839650d9d007bbd7ff8367baa64a31912992b20 |
| 14:10.13 | viyyer | cahoot, the mute works but not raising the volume |
| 14:10.29 | viyyer | cahoot, same is the case with alsamixergui tooo :( |
| 14:10.37 | BlueBeret | please help, I upgraded x11-common and it says, 'dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.0.22_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite \'/usr/X11R6/bin\', which is also in package opera' and ends up with an error, how can I fix it? |
| 14:11.07 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: deinstall opera, do the upgrade, reinstall opera. |
| 14:11.08 | viyyer | is the problem with alsa or the module? |
| 14:11.09 | cahoot | viyyer: does this apply to your situation? http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg14918.html |
| 14:11.23 | StevenR | is there a separate package for pcmcia modules under a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 14:11.42 | meneg | any idea why update-grub doesn't use sda but hda? |
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| 14:11.53 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: thanks |
| 14:12.45 | viyyer | cahoot, yes |
| 14:14.14 | BlueBeret | BTW, does it only seem to me that the people responsible for apt have made a great mess around x11? |
| 14:14.47 | jelly-home | BlueBeret: It's not apt's fault, it just reports the problems with the packages. |
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| 14:15.28 | BlueBeret | jelly-home: no, I mean the x-window-system package which depends on nonexistent pkgs and so |
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| 14:15.47 | jelly-home | BlueBeret: not apt either. |
| 14:16.08 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: the update/change from xfree to xorg is a major problem and causes havoc in some situtations. |
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| 14:16.39 | zamaliphe | with linux i have learn alot :) soon i will have my web serves on my one pc |
| 14:16.55 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: lol, I thought I was ok when using xorg since the beginning |
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| 14:17.01 | roxy_ | BlueBeret: BlueBeret happened to me, I got lot of troubles because at some point it asked me to delete the /usr/X11/bin directory. |
| 14:17.02 | viyyer | cahoot, cannot get the response in the thread in it though |
| 14:17.11 | RvGaTe | just wondering, with xchat 2.6.1. it gives me a red line every now and then, what is it ? |
| 14:17.28 | BlueBeret | roxy_: I actually deleted be, so I'm now trashed, right? |
| 14:17.30 | cahoot | viyyer: seems to be none |
| 14:18.09 | totu | can somebody point me how to get the creation time of a file or filesystem that supports it? ive googled a bit but it only returns about ctime atime and mtime. |
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| 14:18.30 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: first of all: you do run the X-update on console while X is down, right ? |
| 14:18.31 | viyyer | cahoot, right |
| 14:18.37 | roxy_ | BlueBeret: no. I could get out forcing the install of some package, the update, upgrade then uninstall reinstall the package without forcing |
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| 14:18.50 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: yes. I actually did that after it crashed :) |
| 14:18.51 | roxy_ | s/the/then |
| 14:19.01 | viyyer | cahoot, I was lookint that the bottom .. where there was a single .. I was trinyg to click |
| 14:19.14 | roxy_ | BlueBeret: but I am a debian newbie so probably more elegant solution around |
| 14:19.36 | BlueBeret | roxy_: I don't know, I got lost among the words you said. |
| 14:19.59 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: red line shows lines that have been spoken since you had previously taken a look at that tab. |
| 14:21.01 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: no need to crash it, just exiting would have been fine too ... |
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| 14:21.31 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: i really don't like to hear irony at this point... |
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| 14:21.57 | RvGaTe | jelly-home, aah, thats nice.. thx |
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| 14:22.41 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: what is working, what is installed and what does not want to be installed ? |
| 14:22.52 | movi | i need someone to help me write an acpi script |
| 14:23.07 | lord_rob | hi ! I'm trying to switch from lilo to grub. I'm almost done. The problem is that for grub to boot from mbr I must pass "groot=(hd4,7)" but the root argument of a given kernel must be root (hd0,7). How can I do that automatically with update-grub ? |
| 14:23.16 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: now I managed to fix the dpkg dependencies, so everything except X is working. however, I'd appreciate if X worked. |
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| 14:23.44 | Tallu | Hey.. I'm running debian sarge and installed exim4. I'm sending the mail through a smarthost and for some reason the name field remains a questionmark, whereas the sender address is correct. How would I go about fixing this? |
| 14:23.52 | BlueBeret | not many things tested though. |
| 14:23.58 | movi | when i close the lid the app vbetool dpms off must be called. when i open it vbetool dpms on |
| 14:23.59 | pumpkin0 | BlueBeret: which part of X is missing ? |
| 14:24.09 | movi | but i have no idea how to interwine those 2 things |
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| 14:24.11 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: dunno, I had to delete the essentials |
| 14:24.17 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: I'll take a look |
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| 14:24.44 | emislo | here i can find web control panel free like cpanel or directadmin? |
| 14:25.06 | emislo | s/here/where |
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| 14:26.01 | Amarande | Okay, this is odd. |
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| 14:26.16 | BlueBeret | pumpkin0: never mind. I'm gonna download another bunch of packages and I'll tell you when something goes wrong again. |
| 14:26.18 | ktwilight | there's no free control panel emislo, not that i know of at least. |
| 14:26.27 | asg | !webmin |
| 14:26.27 | dpkg | webmin is probably a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 14:26.41 | Amarande | When I connect to a remote X server using my Debian system, even if I use ssh -Y when logging into Debian, I still have to manually add the Debian box's IP to the xhost ACL. |
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| 14:26.55 | asg | Amarande: ssh -X, not ssh -Y |
| 14:27.04 | ktwilight | oh..... |
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| 14:27.27 | emislo | is it possible to share root to a user? |
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| 14:27.34 | Amarande | emislo: man sudo |
| 14:27.36 | asg | emislo: use sudo |
| 14:27.48 | emislo | i can access ~/.wine folder only under root privileges |
| 14:27.50 | asg | Amarande: make sure also that xbase-clients is installed on both machines |
| 14:28.04 | pumpkin0 | emislo: man chmod |
| 14:28.06 | Amarande | You can't really make another user with root privs, if that's what you thought. |
| 14:28.22 | boodie | Hello, everybody: I don't know if anybody helping me this morning is stiil there; I want to tahnk you all. I managed to set up the core pointing device for X. Trivial business: mousedev was not loaded. |
| 14:28.24 | asg | emislo: /msg dpkg permissions (read greycat's excellent wiki article) |
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| 14:28.33 | Amarande | You COULD make another username and password with UID 0, but that would just really be logging into the same root account under a different name (e.g., BSD used to have "toor") |
| 14:28.45 | emislo | Well.. i can't access .wine folder when i am loged on as a user |
| 14:29.06 | Amarande | emislo: you'd be using that user's ~/.wine folder |
| 14:29.16 | Amarande | The reason it's the ~/.wine folder is because it's under the home directory of the user you're logged in as |
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| 14:29.47 | Amarande | What you should be doing is configuring Wine under the user you're logged in as, so it'll go in that user's .wine folder and not root's |
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| 14:30.06 | emislo | where is the global config located? |
| 14:30.12 | emislo | in /etc/wine? |
| 14:30.20 | emislo | and is that folder available to all users? |
| 14:30.23 | emislo | not just root? |
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| 14:31.05 | StevenR | pumpkin0: i've upgraded to kernel 2.6.8, and pcmcia sucks less...now it doesn't bring the interface up, but i'm sure that's just something I've not enabled in the init system |
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| 14:31.55 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: ... does it load and unload the modules cleanly ? |
| 14:32.05 | BlueBere1 | hi again, now I'm back at the primary problem which started the avalanche of another problems solved recently... |
| 14:32.12 | Amarande | emislo: well behaved software is supposed to store user modifications to the configuration somewhere in or off the user's home directory |
| 14:32.16 | StevenR | pumpkin0: still doing all that sort of checking |
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| 14:32.43 | Amarande | Such as how bash, for instance, has not just /etc/bash.bashrc, but also ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile |
| 14:33.03 | Amarande | I think Wine does something like that as well. If not, it's a serious flaw and should be reported as such. :) |
| 14:33.09 | BlueBere1 | when I start xdm and switch to the display, it shows a few control characters and freezes the keyboard. /var/log/xdm.log complains about 'fixed' font not present. |
| 14:33.28 | viyyer | can someone help me here |
| 14:33.35 | asg | BlueBere1: /msg dpkg fixed |
| 14:33.45 | fauxalliance | in /proc/acpi/ all the goodness works, cpufreq hibernate etc, however I have no battery/bat0/... debian unstable on an acer aspire |
| 14:33.46 | pumpkin0 | StevenR: look at dmesg and try to find out if the theX you are using int /etc/network/interfaces is the right one. |
| 14:33.52 | viyyer | I get Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).this from proc |
| 14:34.00 | asg | fauxalliance: modprobe battery |
| 14:34.11 | viyyer | but dpkg says my alsa-base version is 1.0.11 |
| 14:34.21 | uwe | im stuck with debian amd64 with message claiming its unable to mount /root |
| 14:34.22 | BlueBere1 | thanks |
| 14:34.34 | asg | uwe: have you asked #debian-amd64? |
| 14:34.43 | fauxalliance | asg, yep, still no foo in the battery directory |
| 14:34.57 | asg | fauxalliance: anything in dmesg indicating why? |
| 14:35.21 | Amarande | asg, I thought AMD64 was an official platform now? I didn't think #debian was i386-specific :) |
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| 14:35.52 | asg | Amarande: it isn't however there are a number of fringe channels (#debian-sparc, #debian-amd64, #debianppc, etc.) |
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| 14:36.31 | BlueBere1 | what is wrong when both /etc/init.d/xdm {start,stop} say nothing, producing no output to the xdm log? |
| 14:36.31 | asg | Amarande: traditionally, #debian has been used for generic debian questions |
| 14:37.00 | fauxalliance | asg, nope. i see the power button, sleep and lid switch register, thats it though |
| 14:37.02 | uwe | asg, yes, i managed to mount the devices manually |
| 14:37.04 | asg | BlueBere1: check /etc/init.d/xdm (see if it doesn't terminate before calling anything.) |
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| 14:37.37 | uwe | but i keep getting error complaing about /dev/initctl |
| 14:37.55 | BlueBere1 | asg: test -x $DAEMON || exit 0 |
| 14:38.15 | BlueBere1 | asg: I appear to have no xdm :) sorry |
| 14:38.16 | asg | BlueBere1: see if what $DAEMON exists |
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| 14:39.06 | pumpkin0 | BlueBere1: apt-get install xdm |
| 14:39.13 | BlueBere1 | ok |
| 14:39.39 | BlueBere1 | it begins to get me pretty annoyed. starting xdm makes the monitor to blink 3 times, crashing with no log output. |
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| 14:40.33 | jelly-home | BlueBere1: check out /var/log/X*.0.log |
| 14:40.50 | jelly-home | BlueBere1: /me is stupid |
| 14:41.00 | Where|here | Ha! There are more people here than at the OFTC chan |
| 14:41.05 | asg | BlueBere1: well, verify that X works (simply type 'X' and see if you get a crosshatched screen and X cursor) |
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| 14:42.13 | asg | Where|here: there are at least 100 less people in here than years past. |
| 14:42.21 | BlueBere1 | what is the default display driver? |
| 14:42.23 | Amarande | hmm |
| 14:42.31 | Amarande | Does gnome-sesssion attempt to load its own WM? |
| 14:42.47 | Where|here | asg: :( |
| 14:42.48 | Amarande | (When run directly, such as to use a remote X server.) |
| 14:43.05 | BlueBere1 | (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" <--- ?!?!?!?! |
| 14:43.16 | jelly-home | asg: otfc+freenode sum is about right though. |
| 14:43.20 | asg | Where|here: however, I've noticed a decline in the quality of both channels in the last year or so so I guess it doesn't really matter |
| 14:43.30 | asg | jelly-home: *nod* |
| 14:43.39 | dhuv | hello all |
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| 14:43.59 | dhuv | I have a t42 with the atheros chip for wifi |
| 14:44.10 | dhuv | I am trying to use the debian madwifi sources |
| 14:44.28 | BlueBere1 | I need holidays... |
| 14:44.34 | dhuv | when I downloaded and extracted it, all the source was downloaded to /usr/src/modules/madwifi |
| 14:44.44 | jelly-home | asg: there were about 700 users here on Friday, so maybe there's something wrong w/ freenode. Or maybe the northern hemisphere has gone to summer vacation. |
| 14:44.45 | dhuv | can anybody tell me the debian way to build that module? |
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| 14:44.57 | Amarande | jelly-home: "something wrong with freenode" would be it |
| 14:45.04 | asg | jelly-home: well freenode had an issue overnight |
| 14:45.06 | SniZ | morning_wood, u r here? |
| 14:45.08 | Amarande | I heard last night the servers got hacked |
| 14:45.23 | Ronin | Amarande: ya they had script kiddie problems |
| 14:45.26 | Amarande | Specifically, someone hijacked an O-line and used it to forcibly netsplit everything |
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| 14:45.38 | Amarande | That's what I heard on i.d.o, anyway |
| 14:46.01 | asg | Amarande: the wallops indicated the same info |
| 14:46.05 | BlueBere1 | Fatal server error: no screens found <--- I don't really know what my problem is. |
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| 14:46.20 | asg | !no screens found |
| 14:46.20 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
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| 14:46.24 | asg | BlueBere1: ^^^ |
| 14:46.34 | BlueBere1 | I DAMNED KNOW |
| 14:46.37 | jelly-home | BlueBere1: please paste your whole log somewhere. |
| 14:46.48 | jelly-home | BlueBere1: if there is one , that is. |
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| 14:47.00 | boodie | I had awful problems with the mouse; my problem was that the module mousedev was not loaded |
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| 14:47.43 | boodie | Blue: have you done lsmod, to see if your mice modules were loaded? |
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| 14:47.59 | BlueBere1 | boodie: yep. even the nvidia module was there. |
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| 14:48.13 | incorrect | i just got a 1Gb usb drive, but linux only sees a 1Mb, is that normal? |
| 14:48.21 | boodie | both mousedev and psmouse? |
| 14:48.29 | BlueBere1 | boodie: yeah, BOTH! |
| 14:48.33 | asg | incorrect: no, that's not normal |
| 14:48.50 | incorrect | asg: do you know if this is a common problem |
| 14:49.17 | boodie | Then, have you set the package with the fonts, this also bogged me |
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| 14:49.32 | asg | incorrect: never been for me. After mounting it, paste the output of df -h <mountpoint> |
| 14:49.41 | BlueBere1 | my system is lying to me. it says I have neither nvidia nor mouse modules. I could prove him it's wrong. |
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| 14:49.58 | incorrect | its 1Mb |
| 14:50.12 | asg | BlueBere1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg) and choose the correct mouse and display driver. |
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| 14:50.30 | incorrect | there were 1 partitions on the drive, so i deleted them and tried to make a linux partition, but no joy |
| 14:50.38 | asg | incorrect: odd. |
| 14:51.31 | incorrect | normally there is 1 fat partition, you delete that and make a linux, mkfs.ext2 and debootstrap it, 10 mins later you grub it and you have a bootable usb drive |
| 14:51.34 | asg | incorrect: the only thing I can think of is that the partition was created too small and the resulting filesystem could only use the space. |
| 14:51.49 | BlueBere1 | triple blink... |
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| 14:52.06 | BlueBere1 | all I do is defaulting my configuration |
| 14:52.24 | BlueBere1 | i've already lost the functionality of my nvidia-glx |
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| 14:54.22 | BlueBere1 | someone please take a look at my log: http://w3gosu.czechian.net/paste/Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:58.41 | BlueBere1 | all I need is holidays and a person to give ssh access to my machine! |
| 14:58.50 | Dabian | ***** these *************** *****! **** them! |
| 14:59.05 | blondie | what? |
| 14:59.12 | Dabian | BlueBere1 : I can waste your machine for ya .. user/pass ? |
| 14:59.30 | BlueBere1 | Dabian: that was only hyperbolized. |
| 14:59.46 | Dabian | BlueBere1 : And pass? |
| 14:59.50 | Dabian | BlueBere1 : Same? |
| 15:00.11 | BlueBere1 | Dabian: yes, you could try root/root |
| 15:00.12 | Dabian | BlueBere1 : IP is 195.22.34.22 ? |
| 15:00.30 | uwe | hello, can i install a 32 bit debian then upgrade to 64 kernel ? |
| 15:00.44 | Dabian | uwe : Nah .. you lack skill! |
| 15:00.46 | BlueBere1 | Dabian: if you can open a port... |
| 15:00.48 | jelly-home | uwe: no. |
| 15:01.12 | uwe | hmmm ... |
| 15:01.31 | Dabian | uwe : Btw. I am just kidding ... but it sure aint a joke to make the switch.. |
| 15:01.42 | Dabian | uwe: Like going from PPC to PC or something. |
| 15:02.05 | uwe | i c ... |
| 15:02.20 | Dabian | uwe: Better way is to backup importent data and config, (and of course userdata like /home and /var/games) |
| 15:02.51 | blondie | uwe: c is a letter not a word |
| 15:03.21 | uwe | :) should i listen to a blondie ;) |
| 15:03.24 | Dabian | uwe : You might want 32-bit firefox for now .. but you can do that in 64-bit environment .. "linux32 firefox32" .. (its not that simple .. but you get the idea) |
| 15:03.25 | BlueBere1 | Please help with this: 'fonts.dir' not found in "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" <--- where can get one? |
| 15:03.49 | blondie | walmart |
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| 15:04.41 | BlueBere1 | please... |
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| 15:05.57 | boodie | BlueBarel: it happened to me, too: I had to install the package xfonts-base |
| 15:06.35 | boodie | uwe: I have just installd etch on AMD64 |
| 15:06.49 | BlueBere1 | boodie: yeeeeeeah, good idea, the only problem is that I have it re-installled twice |
| 15:07.49 | sortadi | BlueBere1: cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc |
| 15:08.00 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and then mkttfdir |
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| 15:08.55 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: mkttfdir: command not found |
| 15:09.18 | sortadi | BlueBere1: you need to have the package for that command installed |
| 15:09.24 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: what package? |
| 15:09.27 | sortadi | BlueBere1: wait, i'll tell you the name |
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| 15:10.22 | boodie | I found it irksome, to cope with 'testing' distribution; am I mistaken, or the dependencies between packages are not as settled as in a 'stable' one? |
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| 15:12.06 | sortadi | BlueBere1: fttools |
| 15:12.07 | blondie | boodie: that's why one's called testing, and the other stable |
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| 15:12.28 | boodie | btw, I still have minor problems: my pppoeconf does not produce a usable 'pon dsl-provider', so if I run every time 'pppoeconf' it works, otherwise it doesn't ... + kde doesn't work (wmaker does) |
| 15:12.34 | sortadi | BlueBere1: also you'll need root privileges to run that commnad |
| 15:13.15 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: performed it, no effect. |
| 15:14.09 | sortadi | BlueBere1: it should create a fonts.dir file inside that folder you just mentioned |
| 15:14.19 | sortadi | BlueBere1: look to see if it is there |
| 15:14.44 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it is there, but it contains 0x30 0x0A |
| 15:14.58 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: in other words, 0 |
| 15:15.20 | sortadi | BlueBere1: are you inside that /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc folder? |
| 15:15.28 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: yes |
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| 15:15.46 | sortadi | BlueBere1: does that folder contain fonts definitions? |
| 15:16.09 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: only the files fonts.alias and fonts.cache-1 |
| 15:17.15 | jelly-home | Is there a way to tell aptitude to use Recommends for some packages and not for others? |
| 15:17.31 | sortadi | BlueBere1: yes that's right, because the folder that contains the actual fonts for that misc section is in usr/share |
| 15:17.50 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: so what's left for me to do? |
| 15:18.36 | sortadi | BlueBere1: look inside /usr/share/fonts |
| 15:18.45 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and tell me if you have a misc section |
| 15:18.53 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it's not there |
| 15:19.05 | boodie | The whole xorg is a bit whimsical, in fact |
| 15:19.07 | sortadi | BlueBere1: what do you have there? |
| 15:19.32 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: fonts.cache-1 truetype type1 wine X11 |
| 15:19.43 | sortadi | BlueBere1: look inside X11 |
| 15:19.56 | boodie | now I set it up, it seems to work, but this morning I stupidly tried a different mouse and it all went belly up |
| 15:19.58 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: there is a misc dir |
| 15:20.10 | sortadi | BlueBere1: tell me if there are fonts definitions on that one |
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| 15:20.29 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: affirmative. |
| 15:20.34 | boodie | byez: I leave |
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| 15:20.53 | sortadi | BlueBere1: ok then cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc and then mkttfdir |
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| 15:21.20 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: and then? |
| 15:21.55 | sortadi | BlueBere1: then trying copying that fonts.dir file to that previous folder we were talking before |
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| 15:22.07 | sortadi | BlueBere1: did it actually creat a fonts.dir now? |
| 15:22.16 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and if so, what's in it? |
| 15:22.45 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: yes. and it contained the font names |
| 15:23.10 | sortadi | BlueBere1: now copy it to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc |
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| 15:23.17 | sortadi | BlueBere1: the fonts.dir file |
| 15:23.22 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: ok |
| 15:24.18 | blondie | grrr why do so many things rely on sudo |
| 15:24.20 | blondie | I want to remove it :( |
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| 15:25.47 | sortadi | BlueBere1: then you just need to restart X |
| 15:26.04 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and check the logs to see if the problem persists |
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| 15:27.32 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it complains about no cyrillic fonts, but I don't use them, so shall I leave it alone? |
| 15:28.08 | sortadi | BlueBere1: ok, first what we were working on.. did it get fix? |
| 15:28.27 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: no. still triple blink and crash |
| 15:28.28 | basti`DND | BlueBere1 stinkt |
| 15:28.48 | StevenR | im using debian stable...which 2.6 kernel package should I install...there are a number to choose from :S |
| 15:28.48 | basti`DND | StevenR stinkt |
| 15:28.56 | sortadi | BlueBere1: which debian flavou are you using? |
| 15:28.56 | basti`DND | sortadi stinkt |
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| 15:29.01 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: testing |
| 15:29.02 | basti`DND | BlueBere1 stinkt |
| 15:29.09 | Dabian | I had a question .. (dont "!tell Dabian about ask") |
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| 15:29.20 | sortadi | BlueBere1: did you dist-upgrade recently¿? |
| 15:29.30 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: only upgrade |
| 15:29.38 | phaedrus44 | for some reason i cannot read my old cds in debian...i made cds with mp3s and videos and stuff and now when i put into debian i cant read |
| 15:29.44 | sortadi | BlueBere1: which xorg are you using? |
| 15:29.44 | phaedrus44 | any ideas? |
| 15:29.54 | basti`DND | sorry |
| 15:30.29 | Dabian | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda1/part0 |
| 15:30.30 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: 1:7.0.22 |
| 15:30.59 | sortadi | BlueBere1: ok you just need to do the whole process for each font dir you have with problems |
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| 15:31.14 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: even the nonexistent ones? |
| 15:31.17 | Dabian | oh .. it was kinda like a poll rather ... |
| 15:31.27 | boredom | How do I change my default soundcard? |
| 15:31.29 | Dabian | (Don't !tell dabian about polls") |
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| 15:31.34 | sortadi | BlueBere1: then run a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 15:31.46 | Dabian | Oh yeah! |
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| 15:32.02 | Dabian | Which IMAP server is good? |
| 15:32.09 | sortadi | BlueBere1: ok the nonexistant ones you need to delete the fontspaths for in the xorg.conf |
| 15:32.12 | Dabian | (For debian) |
| 15:32.55 | Dabian | I don't know if IMAP is the sollution .. but I want mail to arrive to my machine immidiately .. |
| 15:33.13 | Dabian | not with 2 min. delay or whatever you usually setup fetchmail for. |
| 15:33.25 | jelly-home | Dabian: does your machine have a static ip? |
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| 15:33.56 | Dabian | jetty: Yeah .. that is, the mailserver does. :) |
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| 15:34.09 | Dabian | jetty: It runs SMTP server already - |
| 15:34.10 | zegnus | somebody have audigy player 5.1 surround51 working ?? |
| 15:34.10 | jelly-home | Dabian: no, the machine you want to read mail at. |
| 15:34.25 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: font problems disappeared from the log, but there are still some errors |
| 15:34.26 | boredom | Does anyone know how to change ur default sound card? |
| 15:34.43 | Dabian | jetty: Not at the moment .. it could be arranged though? |
| 15:34.45 | sortadi | BlueBere1: which are those? |
| 15:34.55 | cyzie | boredom, change default soound card? sounds to me just alsaconf |
| 15:34.56 | StevenR | boredom: stop being greedy and only have one source card? :P |
| 15:35.05 | blondie | source card? |
| 15:35.11 | StevenR | sound |
| 15:35.12 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: first, some warns: xf86OpenConsole: set{pg,s}id failed: Operation not permitted |
| 15:35.14 | blondie | sauce card? |
| 15:35.14 | StevenR | meh |
| 15:35.47 | StevenR | ahh...in the kitchen, next to the cup of tea I've been ignoring :( |
| 15:35.49 | jelly-home | Dabian: so add a forward to your machine |
| 15:35.51 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: then an error about being unable to load module evdev |
| 15:35.54 | sortadi | BlueBere1: do you have the right modules working for your particular video chipset and/or card? |
| 15:36.04 | boredom | StevenR its because my capture cards trying to take over my my soundcard |
| 15:36.14 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it says evdev doesn't exist, though I see it loaded in lsmod |
| 15:36.20 | Dabian | jelly-home : A ".forward" in the homedir? |
| 15:36.35 | sortadi | BlueBere1: have you tried reinstalling xorg? |
| 15:36.50 | sortadi | BlueBere1: there are loads of bugs with this new xorg in etch |
| 15:36.50 | jelly-home | Dabian: I don't know how your ISP sets these things up, but if you have a shell account, I suppose yes. |
| 15:36.56 | cyzie | boredom, do you mean you have a tvtuner card ? |
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| 15:37.08 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and one of the least but not last soultions is to reinstall it |
| 15:37.13 | Dabian | jelly-home : Oh ... I don't use my ISP's mail. |
| 15:37.15 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: I keep installing back the latest version |
| 15:37.23 | Dabian | jelly-home : I run sendmail myself. |
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| 15:37.35 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and reconfiguring it? |
| 15:37.48 | sortadi | BlueBere1: which is your video card? |
| 15:37.50 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: yes |
| 15:38.02 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: NVidia GeForce FX 5500 |
| 15:38.15 | sortadi | BlueBere1: do you have it set to use the nv driver? |
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| 15:38.24 | jelly-home | Dabian: where do you fetch the mail with fetchmail from then? |
| 15:38.24 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: yes |
| 15:38.42 | sortadi | BlueBere1: and which modules are you loading? |
| 15:38.47 | sortadi | BlueBere1: in the xorg xonfig |
| 15:38.51 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: oh, there is an error at the bottom of the log saying it failed to load the nvidia module |
| 15:39.02 | sortadi | BlueBere1: then that's it |
| 15:39.02 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: but it is strange, I have forbidden it |
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| 15:39.46 | cyzie | boredom, stil therE? |
| 15:40.07 | sortadi | BlueBere1: try reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-nv |
| 15:40.16 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: fine, I found one nvidia left in the config, changed it... |
| 15:40.31 | sortadi | BlueBere1: what was that? |
| 15:40.38 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: now it says "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device" |
| 15:40.40 | boredom | cyzie yeah i was trying to figure out why alsaconf don't work |
| 15:40.56 | cyzie | boredom, do u have tvtuner card? |
| 15:41.12 | boredom | cyzie yes |
| 15:41.22 | james_null | hello everybody, what if i want to use only one package located uin unstable repositories ? is there a way to handle it using apt ? |
| 15:41.28 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it was the Driver |
| 15:41.37 | cyzie | mmmmmm |
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| 15:42.03 | sortadi | BlueBere1: do not use framebuffering then |
| 15:42.08 | cyzie | boredom, just do alsaconf and pick the sound card, then in your mixer, set to alsa as well |
| 15:42.12 | sortadi | BlueBere1: when it asks you about say no |
| 15:42.12 | BlueBere1 | sortadi: it doesn't work without it either |
| 15:42.22 | sortadi | shit |
| 15:42.54 | sortadi | BlueBere1: what if you try with generic driver for a chance? |
| 15:42.58 | boredom | cyzie keep getting alsaconf: command not found |
| 15:43.00 | sortadi | BlueBere1: vesa i mean |
| 15:43.02 | abrotman | install it |
| 15:43.17 | cyzie | boredom, apt-get install alsa-util |
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| 15:43.40 | james_null | nobody ? |
| 15:43.51 | jelly-home | james_null: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 15:43.51 | abrotman | !tell james_null about backport |
| 15:44.13 | boredom | cyzie alsa-utils is already the newest version |
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| 15:44.21 | james_null | thank you both for your support , and good day :) |
| 15:44.25 | boredom | i have all that already installed |
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| 15:44.30 | BlueBeret | sorry, I had to reset, what did you say? |
| 15:44.57 | cyzie | k |
| 15:45.27 | cyzie | anybody know alsaconf is belong to which package? |
| 15:45.48 | BlueBeret | all your base are belong to us |
| 15:47.31 | abrotman | blondie: are you having problems? |
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| 15:48.04 | boredom | hmmm |
| 15:48.11 | jelly-home | Is there a way to look at http protocol when using https sessions? I can do it easily with a proxy for plain http. |
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| 15:50.10 | cyzie | boredom, alsa-tools |
| 15:50.25 | LoneWlf | anyone know where some good documentation is on setting up a Samba/LDAP pdc? |
| 15:50.51 | boredom | cyzie =0) |
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| 15:51.13 | cyzie | boredom, get it? |
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| 15:52.03 | boredom | yes |
| 15:54.03 | cyzie | boredom, btw, have you put your speaker cable to your sound card yet? ;) |
| 15:54.50 | boredom | cyzie =0) yes |
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| 15:55.02 | blondie | abrotman: I'm annoyed that apt-get won't "let" me remove sudo |
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| 15:55.11 | abrotman | LoneWlf: there's a good chunk at samba.org .. or ask #samba |
| 15:55.18 | abrotman | blondie: errrors ? |
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| 15:55.24 | blondie | abrotman: dependencies |
| 15:55.31 | abrotman | no kidding ... |
| 15:55.39 | blondie | "rm" worked :P |
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| 15:56.09 | abrotman | uh |
| 15:56.15 | cyzie | blondie, why r u removing sudo? |
| 15:56.29 | blondie | !u |
| 15:56.30 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:56.55 | boredom | hmm alsaconf: command not found =( |
| 15:58.06 | cyzie | blondie, why are yUo removing sudo? |
| 15:58.26 | abrotman | you ? |
| 15:59.00 | blondie | because it's insecure |
| 15:59.02 | blondie | and I hate it |
| 15:59.07 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 15:59.07 | dpkg | [alsa one-liner] apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
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| 15:59.38 | cyzie | boredom, yes, follow that one-liner |
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| 16:00.10 | cyzie | if you have alsa-base , alsa-utils, you should alsaconf boredom |
| 16:00.15 | www | hello ;) who help me ?.. i nedd a good scaner who have it ? |
| 16:00.24 | itchi | learn #debian-belgium u as Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:00.33 | cyzie | boredom, run alsaconf in root mode |
| 16:00.33 | itchi | oeps :-/ |
| 16:00.54 | superlinux | how to take advantage of CUPS printer classes for the sake of samba? |
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| 16:01.09 | DaBlade | holy crap: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/25/1440236&from=rss |
| 16:01.11 | cyzie | superlinux, what do you mean? |
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| 16:01.22 | eastwood | freenode hijacked? |
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| 16:01.29 | DaBlade | eastwood: Yeah |
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| 16:02.23 | superlinux | cyzie, in CUPS you make a class of printers. Jobs sent to a class are forwarded to the first available printer in the class. |
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| 16:02.37 | itchi | eastwood: It an big attackt this time :-/ |
| 16:02.49 | eastwood | just read in /. |
| 16:02.51 | superlinux | so how can I make use of that in samba? |
| 16:03.56 | cyzie | superlinux, ahh okay. i use samba in my laptop to access windows computer that attached to the printer. that's how i print |
| 16:04.21 | superlinux | aha |
| 16:04.33 | superlinux | not serving than |
| 16:04.38 | superlinux | *then |
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| 16:04.51 | superlinux | I am looking for serving.. much important to me |
| 16:05.21 | cyzie | superlinux, got me there :D |
| 16:05.36 | superlinux | :D |
| 16:05.44 | abrotman | ask #samba ? |
| 16:05.53 | superlinux | I did but it's idle |
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| 16:06.06 | boredom | i'm lost .. I have all packages depending on alsaconf but yet still nothing |
| 16:06.53 | boredom | would it matter that im using dapperdrake? |
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| 16:06.59 | lamby | DaBlade: "Even if someone hijacked it, who could ever tell the difference?" :-) |
| 16:07.00 | novata_peleona | hi alll |
| 16:07.31 | DaBlade | lamby: Those whose passwords were stolen, if indeed some were, perhaps? |
| 16:07.44 | cyzie | boredom, are u running alsaconf in root or ? |
| 16:08.06 | boredom | i tried both |
| 16:08.16 | zeug | lamby, this isnt efnet :-) |
| 16:08.45 | orgw | !mirrors |
| 16:08.46 | dpkg | debian mirrors is, like, use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
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| 16:12.06 | abrotman | !tell cyzie about u |
| 16:12.53 | blondie | cyzie: I'm sure I told him about 50 times :( |
| 16:12.55 | blondie | a while ago |
| 16:12.57 | blondie | SIGH |
| 16:13.08 | cyzie | LoL |
| 16:13.16 | cyzie | does that really matter? |
| 16:13.21 | blondie | yes it does |
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| 16:13.50 | cyzie | why ? |
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| 16:13.59 | blondie | !ne1 |
| 16:14.00 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 16:14.02 | blondie | hmm |
| 16:14.06 | novata_peleona | anybody knows if is there any driver for a lexmark 2350 printer?? |
| 16:14.35 | cyzie | novata_peleona, goes CUPS :D |
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| 16:15.03 | novata_peleona | cyzie, i did not find this model on cups. |
| 16:15.51 | blondie | cyzie: there |
| 16:16.13 | cyzie | blondie, LoL |
| 16:16.36 | cyzie | oppsss, is LoL allow here? |
| 16:16.47 | cyzie | or should i type out in full sentence? ;) |
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| 16:17.40 | blondie | cyzie: it's not "LoL", it's either "LOL" or "lol" |
| 16:17.55 | blondie | :P |
| 16:18.31 | cyzie | damn! blondie yoU are very picky |
| 16:18.58 | abrotman | would you rather i start on you? :) |
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| 16:19.08 | blondie | go abrotman go ;) |
| 16:19.41 | phaedrus44 | for some reason i cannot read my old cds in debian...i made cds with mp3s and videos and stuff and now when i put into debian i cant read |
| 16:19.44 | phaedrus44 | any ideas? |
| 16:19.50 | phaedrus44 | mabye mount -t XX /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom? |
| 16:19.54 | blondie | your cd drive is broken? |
| 16:20.02 | abrotman | phaedrus44: where did you make them? |
| 16:20.05 | blondie | or the CDs are |
| 16:20.39 | cyzie | mmmm.. |
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| 16:21.34 | phaedrus44 | abrotman...sorry lost network connection |
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| 16:21.45 | phaedrus44 | i made the cds in windows xp |
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| 16:21.55 | abrotman | did you actually burn them? |
| 16:22.00 | phaedrus44 | yes.. |
| 16:22.09 | cyzie | <db>----<server1>-------------<laptop>, in order to access db, the laptop has to access the server1 via ssh. now question, can i forward the traffic (e.g. database sqlplus traffic) without login to server01 ? would it possible to achieve via iptables? |
| 16:22.25 | abrotman | ask #iptables |
| 16:22.27 | blondie | phaedrus44: did you use the lame Explorer CD writing thing? |
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| 16:22.43 | phaedrus44 | i dont think so...i probably used nero.... |
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| 16:22.49 | phaedrus44 | it was a few years back |
| 16:22.56 | blondie | try them in another machine |
| 16:22.57 | phaedrus44 | been on deb for like 3 years or somthing |
| 16:23.00 | cyzie | abrotman, iptables just what i can think of. is there any other way which im not aware of ? |
| 16:23.01 | novata_peleona | anybody knows if is there any driver for a lexmark 2350 printer?? |
| 16:23.02 | abrotman | phaedrus44: are you serious? |
| 16:23.02 | blondie | are they dusty? :P |
| 16:23.09 | lawnchair | does anyone know if theres a way to get apache to generate 500 internal server errors on demand... im trying to test out some monitoring shit |
| 16:23.10 | abrotman | cyzie: probably only iptables .. |
| 16:23.11 | phaedrus44 | this is the 3rd machine i tried them in with debian |
| 16:23.14 | abrotman | !tell cyzie about iptables |
| 16:23.27 | blondie | ssh port forwarding |
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| 16:23.31 | phaedrus44 | abrotman: am i serious about what? |
| 16:23.49 | blondie | phaedrus44: do you really love him? |
| 16:23.54 | eegore | !reconfigure X |
| 16:23.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reconfigure x is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and answer the questions. If you don't know what hardware you have, you can use discover, read-edid and mdetect hardware detecting tools to help you. If you don't know how they work, read their manpages "man <program>". |
| 16:24.00 | abrotman | phaedrus44: three years is a long time .. and you may have made them using packet writing crap and never actually burned the discs |
| 16:24.25 | blondie | does the packet writing software make proper ISO CDs that linux will read? |
| 16:24.36 | phaedrus44 | hehe...the discs were burned...i transferred them to other machines back then...because of my mp3z .. |
| 16:24.50 | cyzie | abrotman, had asked in #iptables idle it seems apparently |
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| 16:26.30 | abrotman | cyzie: so check those URLs dpkg gave you |
| 16:26.45 | abrotman | phaedrus44: can you read them in any box now? |
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| 16:27.04 | CarlFK | where can I find experimental repo mirrors ( trying to install http://packages.debian.org/experimental/net/gaim) |
| 16:27.19 | abrotman | if you have to ask .. you shouldn't |
| 16:28.07 | cyzie | abrotman, do you have a quick howto ? |
| 16:28.13 | abrotman | cyzie: check those URLs |
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| 16:28.54 | fauxalliance | does the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver support i915, i can modprobe i915 but Xorg.log says "Warning, couldn't open module i915" |
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| 16:30.02 | phaedrus44 | yeah... |
| 16:30.06 | phaedrus44 | a windows box |
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| 16:30.34 | vaq^^ | Is it possible to define which direcotry you want to start your SSH session in? |
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| 16:31.01 | abrotman | phaedrus44: so it only works in a windows box? |
| 16:31.33 | fauxalliance | nm, i must specify i810 in xorg.conf |
| 16:31.48 | phaedrus44 | yes abrotman |
| 16:32.02 | abrotman | phaedrus44: whichmakes me think you didn't really burn it :) |
| 16:32.13 | phaedrus44 | i have tons of the cds.. |
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| 16:32.18 | phaedrus44 | what does burn mean? |
| 16:32.31 | blondie | well obviously he did burn them or they wouldn't read at all |
| 16:32.31 | CarlFK | is deb http://people.debian.org/~ari experimental/ as good as any other? |
| 16:32.34 | phaedrus44 | the files where on the cds and i transferred them around from box to box for a while |
| 16:32.37 | blondie | just they didn't burn in a sensible format |
| 16:32.38 | abrotman | CarlFK: no |
| 16:33.07 | dylan_ | Does anybody understand why when I convert songs using mp32ogg, my iRiver iFP 895 cannot play them because the "OGG format is not supported." The thing plays OGGs, just not the ones in my library. Why? |
| 16:33.25 | abrotman | phaedrus44: i bet you need to load some wacky driver |
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| 16:33.29 | blondie | dylan_: don't know, but that's not a debian question is it? :) |
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| 16:33.34 | abrotman | phaedrus44: try to load them again in debian .. check the logs |
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| 16:33.59 | CarlFK | abrotman: how do I find the 'right' one? |
| 16:34.29 | abrotman | CarlFK: do you realize that stuff in experimental is usually pretty broken .. what do you want gaim for? |
| 16:35.18 | phaedrus44 | abrotman: how to load them again? |
| 16:35.29 | CarlFK | abrotman: there is some problem with gaim/gtk/xorg7/multi head. if gaim2 doesn't have the problem, I won't bother trying to track it down |
| 16:35.46 | dylan_ | blondie, i thought it may have something to do with the package. |
| 16:36.13 | abrotman | CarlFK: you could ask #gaim if it is fixed or if they know about it |
| 16:36.14 | blondie | dylan_: maybe |
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| 16:36.32 | abrotman | phaedrus44: you try to mount the CD again .. in debian |
| 16:36.48 | phaedrus44 | ok |
| 16:38.28 | CarlFK | abrotman: you are assuming i could describe "it" - which isn't easy. |
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| 16:38.51 | abrotman | CarlFK: i would think that if it's a known issue .. you wouldn't have to describe too much |
| 16:39.01 | abrotman | !info gaim experimental |
| 16:39.03 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:2.0.0+beta3-4 (experimental), Packaged size: 1339 kB, Installed size: 3700 kB |
| 16:39.06 | CarlFK | abrotman: thats assuming it is gaim and not gtk |
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| 16:39.23 | blondie | damn I'm so bored ;.; |
| 16:39.25 | abrotman | CarlFK: if it were gtk .. it would happen with other gtk apps .. does it ? |
| 16:39.34 | CarlFK | it also may be related to color depth |
| 16:39.35 | dylan_ | blondie, could it be the firmware of the device? |
| 16:39.45 | CarlFK | abrotman: is gnome-system-monitor a gtk app? |
| 16:39.52 | blondie | dylan_: maybe, no idea -- why don't you juse leave them as MP3s |
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| 16:39.55 | abrotman | that's an applet i think |
| 16:40.06 | OmegaZ | Why there is 3 diffrend i386 debian "testing" dvd-images on cdimage.debian.org? |
| 16:40.24 | dabreegster | Probably for different architectures I'd guess |
| 16:40.38 | dylan_ | blondie, OGG Vorbis is superior. |
| 16:41.12 | abrotman | OmegaZ: lots of sutff ... |
| 16:41.20 | phaedrus44 | abrotman: it mounts but ls shows nothing |
| 16:41.20 | blondie | dylan_: not if it's converted from mp3 |
| 16:41.23 | phaedrus44 | damn this network |
| 16:42.01 | abrotman | phaedrus44: you're going to have to try to find out how you brned it ... or google "linux packet writing" |
| 16:42.18 | abrotman | !udf packet writing |
| 16:42.18 | dpkg | well, udf packet writing is http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/patches/packet/ for recent kernels |
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| 16:42.47 | phaedrus44 | if yer bored you can fix my problem blondie |
| 16:42.49 | phaedrus44 | : ) |
| 16:42.52 | phaedrus44 | thanks abrotman |
| 16:42.56 | Zweideutig | Why is the root partition mounted read only when I boot with init=/bin/bash? |
| 16:43.13 | phaedrus44 | im using the 2.4.27 kernel |
| 16:43.24 | blondie | phaedrus44: install 2.6 |
| 16:43.30 | phaedrus44 | how to do that? |
| 16:43.36 | phaedrus44 | compile and upgrade and all that? |
| 16:43.39 | blondie | no |
| 16:43.41 | phaedrus44 | sorry |
| 16:43.48 | blondie | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-blah |
| 16:43.50 | tonsofpcs | apt-get |
| 16:43.53 | Zweideutig | I want to remount root as read/write. |
| 16:43.54 | phaedrus44 | hehe |
| 16:43.57 | phaedrus44 | thanks for the slap |
| 16:44.00 | OmegaZ | abrotman: Ok, ty. |
| 16:44.07 | tonsofpcs | Zweideutig: vi /etc/fstab |
| 16:44.14 | tonsofpcs | and man fstab |
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| 16:44.37 | Zweideutig | tonsofpcs: But I am not running /sbin/init. |
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| 16:46.00 | dylan_ | blondie, it sounds about the same and the size is smaller if you make the bitrate 64kbps ... the human ear can only hear so much. |
| 16:46.03 | Zweideutig | How can I manually remount the root partition as read/write? |
| 16:46.05 | blenda | is it possible to do shutdown without turning the power off? when i issue "shutdown -h now" it turns the poweroff although i don't have any acpi or apm installed |
| 16:46.13 | Ritzzo | re |
| 16:46.43 | blenda | Zweideutig: did you check the man page for mount? |
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| 16:46.56 | sid | Is 12% packet loss high? |
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| 16:47.03 | sid | For pinging an ip inside your LAN |
| 16:47.15 | Tallu | sid: eww. |
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| 16:47.29 | blenda | sid: i would say everything >0% is high |
| 16:47.43 | Tallu | yeah, what blenda said. |
| 16:47.44 | sid | blenda: What could cause this? |
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| 16:48.05 | sid | This one box in particular is causing me problems with connectivity. But other boxes on the same network are fine |
| 16:48.06 | phaedrus44 | blondie: should i inistall 386 or 686? |
| 16:48.07 | blenda | sid: bad ethernet cables is one possible reason |
| 16:48.27 | blondie | phaedrus44: what CPU do you have? |
| 16:49.07 | sid | blenda: You think that is the most common issue for most people? |
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| 16:49.36 | CarlFK | I am also looking for xorg71. deb - any idea if one exists ? |
| 16:49.43 | linux2 | how can i install grub durring debian install |
| 16:49.50 | sbk | folks -- I'm not sure where to turn to, to figure out how to get sound working. I'm running (cat /etc/debian_version = 3.1, uname -a = 2.6.8-2-686-smp) and my dmesg reports that the i810/ac97 drivers have installed correctly. However, xmms appears to play, but unable to get sound out of the line-out line. |
| 16:49.51 | linux2 | cause i go to the install grub bootloader option |
| 16:49.51 | sid | blenda: Is it possible I can get 0% packet loss when pinging external ips, but I only get packet loss when pinging an ip inside the network? |
| 16:49.54 | linux2 | and if failt |
| 16:50.03 | linux2 | then i look at output |
| 16:50.27 | linux2 | and it says that the file can not be found which makes no sense. if i go and look for the file there it is where it is supposed to be |
| 16:50.35 | linux2 | so how can i manually install the grub packager |
| 16:50.39 | linux2 | package* |
| 16:51.00 | linux2 | cause this is pissing me off even more, cause the error makes no sense saying the file could not be found when it is there |
| 16:51.08 | sid | grub-install |
| 16:51.08 | sid | as root |
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| 16:51.28 | linux2 | sid, durring the install? |
| 16:51.39 | linux2 | sid, i do not have grub installed currently because it won't let me at all |
| 16:51.56 | linux2 | and the only want i can do this is by running it durring install since i cannot boot into the system |
| 16:52.26 | linux2 | sid, it is so frustrating i have already broken two keyboards |
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| 16:52.43 | linux2 | sid, been trying to get debian to work on that comp for over 48 hours |
| 16:52.57 | sid | !confuse linux2 |
| 16:52.57 | dpkg | No, where was my weasel tomorrow, linux2? shirts of the democracy of swaziland with extra anchovies |
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| 16:53.41 | linux2 | sid, so just run grub-install? |
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| 16:53.47 | linux2 | sid, you think that will work? |
| 16:53.57 | sid | linux2: If you are installing debian, you are prompted to install grub. |
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| 16:54.07 | linux2 | sid, yeah, and it fails |
| 16:54.31 | sid | linux2: What does it say? |
| 16:54.41 | linux2 | sid, if i look at the debug output it says the file could not be found on the cd. if i go and look for the file it is right where it is looking |
| 16:55.28 | sid | linux2: Did you do an integrity check? |
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| 16:58.59 | linux2 | sid, it worked fine the other 500 times i installed debian |
| 16:59.10 | linux2 | sid, cause the problem is i need to run the 2.4 kernel |
| 16:59.19 | linux2 | so when i go to install sarge i have to do expert |
| 16:59.25 | linux2 | and install the 2.4 kernel |
| 16:59.39 | linux2 | when i select that grub always fails to install |
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| 16:59.47 | linux2 | now if i select 2.6 then it works fine |
| 16:59.52 | linux2 | so WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 17:00.01 | Ronin | so use linux 26 |
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| 17:00.31 | phaedrus44 | blondie: i have p3 1gig |
| 17:00.36 | phaedrus44 | i installed 686 |
| 17:00.41 | phaedrus44 | i need to reboot now? |
| 17:00.47 | Lorvija | linux2 did u do the integrity check? (: i've gotten similar probs with broken cd.. |
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| 17:01.02 | blondie | phaedrus44: yes |
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| 17:01.18 | phaedrus44 | cool...thanks |
| 17:01.20 | phaedrus44 | brbr |
| 17:01.22 | blondie | phaedrus44: umm, are you using lilo? |
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| 17:01.45 | blondie | phaedrus44: did it give you warnings when you installed the kernel? |
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| 17:02.15 | linux2 | Ronin, i have to use expert26 |
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| 17:02.44 | linux2 | i guess i could install and then run apt-get to downgrade my kernel |
| 17:02.47 | linux2 | would that work? |
| 17:02.58 | blondie | o.O |
| 17:03.03 | sortadi | omg |
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| 17:03.31 | linux2 | what? |
| 17:03.34 | linux2 | would that work? |
| 17:03.40 | linux2 | go from 2.6 to 2.4 |
| 17:04.11 | blondie | maybe, why do you want to do that? |
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| 17:05.46 | WingZer0 | how doo i install a cgi server so i can user nph cgi pproxy |
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| 17:06.57 | linux2 | blondie, because i need to run the 2.4 kernel |
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| 17:08.01 | linux2 | because in debian a module that i need is broken in the 2.6 kernel |
| 17:08.24 | blondie | linux2: what module? |
| 17:08.56 | abrotman | megaraid? |
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| 17:10.15 | linux2 | blondie, cpqarray |
| 17:10.20 | WingZer0 | how doo i install a cgi server so i can user nph cgi pproxy |
| 17:10.33 | dealer | 2System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred |
| 17:10.36 | dealer | GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in. |
| 17:10.48 | dealer | anyone got this error message when starts gnome? |
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| 17:15.14 | godmachine81 | is there a gdesklet applet that lets you put a borderless/ embeded transparent terminal on your desktop? |
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| 17:16.50 | compDo | I've problems playing WMV files with mplayer and xine. How do you play these video files? |
| 17:17.28 | godmachine81 | compDo, there is a plugin you need for those |
| 17:17.31 | dabreegster | compDo: Do you have the right codecs? You probably need w32codecs |
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| 17:17.50 | compDo | godmachine81, what plugin you mean? |
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| 17:18.17 | compDo | dabreegster, I've downloaded the recent codes from the mplayer website and copied it to /usr/lib/win32 |
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| 17:18.38 | phaedrus44 | woooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:18.41 | godmachine81 | hang on my food is done and ill help ya to get it working ok |
| 17:18.45 | snd-ca0106 | hi, i've a problem with my soundcard (SB Live 24 7.1); i can paly music VERY well, but not record, someone can help me ? |
| 17:18.54 | phaedrus44 | thanks for the advice this thing runs like a raped ape now |
| 17:18.56 | dabreegster | compDo: What seems to be the primary error when you try to play the file? |
| 17:19.03 | phaedrus44 | thanks blondie |
| 17:19.10 | morning_wood | http://www.zone-h.org/content/view/13776/31/ |
| 17:19.11 | morning_wood | The GNOME incident |
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| 17:19.38 | dabreegster | snd-ca0106: Assuming you have a mic hooked up to the right input jack, make sure your Mic or Input volume is all the way up |
| 17:19.54 | compDo | dabreegster, I've no sound and the picture in mplayer remains black with some green bars from time to time. |
| 17:20.02 | snd-ca0106 | mic is connected correctly mean i can record in redmond |
| 17:20.15 | snd-ca0106 | about volume kmix says everything is up |
| 17:20.19 | snd-ca0106 | i dunno what else |
| 17:20.26 | dabreegster | compDo: I mean in the mplayer output |
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| 17:21.33 | raf256` | what the fuck |
| 17:21.43 | raf256` | why there is no video group |
| 17:21.56 | compDo | dabreegster, it says "ProcessInputError r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)??,?% 0 0 47%" |
| 17:22.36 | dabreegster | compDo: Never seen that one, dunno. If you're sure your codecs are in the right place, ask #mplayer I guess. |
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| 17:24.37 | phaedrus44 | i have upgraded to 2.6 and still cannot read my cds |
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| 17:25.04 | raf256` | in debian there is no group video... what the hell? should I create it manually? debian testing |
| 17:25.09 | godmachine81 | compDo, do you have totem-xine installed? |
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| 17:25.35 | Administrator | can I use nfs for windows? |
| 17:25.36 | dimir | hehe |
| 17:25.48 | dimir | Only idiots irc as root! |
| 17:26.17 | compDo | godmachine81, no, you think this application might play my WMVs? |
| 17:26.34 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 17:26.36 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 17:26.47 | snd-ca0106 | any help ? |
| 17:26.49 | godmachine81 | compDo, change to root and then do apt-get install totem-xine |
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| 17:27.08 | godmachine81 | then run xine and see if it opens your wmv file |
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| 17:28.18 | stoned | xine uses w32codecs also, without it it will not play wmv files |
| 17:28.25 | stoned | !marillat |
| 17:28.25 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 17:28.36 | stoned | install the w32 codecs package if you have not already |
| 17:28.48 | stoned | add your user to the video/audio groups, and log out of the system completely, and then log back in |
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| 17:29.03 | kdean06 | When compiling a kernel with the make-kpkg, are there any specific things to pass to "optimize" it for Sempron chips? I know in there, you can specify "Processor Family". Is this it, or are there other options? |
| 17:29.23 | Administrator | can I use nfs for windows? |
| 17:29.34 | raf256` | should there be video group??? |
| 17:29.46 | stoned | raf256, yes |
| 17:30.01 | raf256` | stoned: I dont have it. onb my debian testing bozx |
| 17:30.23 | stoned | then make it |
| 17:30.29 | stoned | man addgroup |
| 17:30.44 | stoned | and then adduser to put users in it |
| 17:30.55 | godmachine81 | stoned, i thought the mplayer on deb came with the win32 codecs |
| 17:31.00 | stoned | godmachine81, no |
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| 17:31.02 | godmachine81 | i dont think i had to install anything else |
| 17:31.13 | godmachine81 | whats the win32 package name then? |
| 17:31.24 | stoned | In my knowledge, you have to seperately install 'w32codecs' |
| 17:31.34 | godmachine81 | the avi codec? |
| 17:31.51 | godmachine81 | i dont remember doing that |
| 17:32.07 | dabreegster | godmachine81: No, it should have a codec for wmv too I think. It's in marillat |
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| 17:32.52 | stoned | godmachine81, windows media video and audio video interlace codecs are completely different from each other |
| 17:33.00 | snd-ca0106 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.04 | godmachine81 | yea i know they are different |
| 17:33.18 | f0urtyfive | Hey, theirs a couple freenode staffers in here, any of you available to hop on freenode-social and voice people? |
| 17:33.22 | godmachine81 | but i had avi, wmv, and wma all working and i didnt use any 3rd party packages |
| 17:33.28 | godmachine81 | just the things on the debian repo |
| 17:33.29 | abrotman | Administrator: you can use nfs on a windows client |
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| 17:33.36 | solars | I'm using udev and ivman for my usb stick, running ivman as root, the stick always gets mount with user ivman, group plugdev, which is okay, but permissions are g=rx. shouldn't this be rwx for the plugdev group? where can I set that ? |
| 17:33.39 | abrotman | f0urtyfive: just wait .. they'll get to it |
| 17:33.48 | dabreegster | snd-ca0106: I dunno, sorry. If you're sure it's in the right jack and the volume levels are up and you're using something like 'rec', then I dunno. Maybe a soundcard issue. |
| 17:34.02 | raf256` | what is the GID of group video? |
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| 17:34.16 | raf256` | and why in the fucks name that group is missing on my debian testing |
| 17:34.25 | Administrator | abrotman, tell me about your experience with samba and nfs |
| 17:34.32 | f0urtyfive | abrotman: I would, but the unvoiced people are talking to me in pm since no one else is around :P |
| 17:34.37 | abrotman | Administrator: could you be more vague? |
| 17:34.39 | f0urtyfive | and theirs about 90 |
| 17:34.59 | stoned | raf256`, you don't need the video gropu |
| 17:35.07 | abrotman | f0urtyfive: then ask in the #freenode-social channel for staff to give voice .. not in #debian |
| 17:35.19 | raf256` | stoned: non-root users have much slower video |
| 17:35.34 | stoned | raf256`, that will not be solved by that |
| 17:35.38 | Administrator | abrotman, haha, I want to `'mount'` my ~ dir on my windows client machine. I'm wondering which to use, samba or nfs, which one is more easy to setup, which one is more secure, which one is more stable? |
| 17:35.42 | stoned | afaik |
| 17:35.54 | amphi | raf256`: 44 here (sarge) |
| 17:36.01 | f0urtyfive | abrotman: I did and no one responded, I did a /who freenode/staff/* and theirs a bunch in here that arent in #freenode-social, so I was hoping one was available |
| 17:36.07 | abrotman | Administrator: i'd probably go with samba .. less chanes to screw up windows |
| 17:36.18 | stoned | I have 3 sid boxes here, neither of the 3 contains a video group. My multimedia works just fine |
| 17:36.25 | raf256` | stoned: so how to olve |
| 17:36.27 | abrotman | f0urtyfive: i haven't seen any staff member say a word in here since early this morning |
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| 17:36.28 | Administrator | abrotman, could you tell me more about that? |
| 17:36.36 | abrotman | Administrator: /j #samba .. read the docs |
| 17:36.38 | stoned | raf256`, slowness? I don't know. |
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| 17:37.00 | f0urtyfive | abrotman: ah ok, thanks. |
| 17:37.13 | stoned | I get paid tomorrow |
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| 17:37.17 | stoned | sweet |
| 17:37.21 | abrotman | f0urtyfive: or try /stats p |
| 17:37.31 | f0urtyfive | p 0 staff members |
| 17:37.31 | f0urtyfive | End of /STATS report |
| 17:37.33 | f0urtyfive | :P |
| 17:37.42 | abrotman | i'm shocked |
| 17:37.47 | stoned | no you're not |
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| 17:38.11 | abrotman | not even close |
| 17:38.17 | stoned | :) |
| 17:38.26 | incorrect | i take it '386' isn't been looked after anymore? |
| 17:38.35 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 17:38.36 | stoned | incorrect, why do you say that? |
| 17:38.38 | f0urtyfive | incorrect! |
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| 17:38.41 | f0urtyfive | :P |
| 17:38.58 | dabreegster | I think he means there isn't a 386 kernel anymore |
| 17:39.08 | abrotman | in sarge there still is .. |
| 17:39.12 | fauxalliance | Acer notebook with i915gm video, (EE) I810(0): [dri] I830DRIScreenInit failed because of a version mismatch. |
| 17:39.12 | fauxalliance | [dri] i915 kernel module version is 1.1.0 but version 1.4 or greater is needed. |
| 17:39.26 | dabreegster | Take that back, there's a linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 in testing |
| 17:39.35 | abrotman | no there isn't |
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| 17:39.42 | fauxalliance | i am using 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 17:39.45 | f0urtyfive | Anyone in here use any type of Key management system with ssh and pub key authentication? |
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| 17:39.58 | stoned | apt-cache search kernel|grep 386 |
| 17:40.05 | abrotman | dabreegster: apt-get update :) |
| 17:40.11 | stoned | this is sid btw |
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| 17:40.25 | stoned | I see stuff, besides dead people, I see other stuff |
| 17:40.35 | stoned | like 386 kernel packages |
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| 17:40.49 | dabreegster | abrotman: It's been a few days. I need to. |
| 17:41.33 | abrotman | dabreegster: that kernel hasn't been in etch for quite a while |
| 17:41.36 | stoned | 4 386 kernels in the list |
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| 17:41.52 | stoned | abrotman, I don't like testing man |
| 17:41.55 | stoned | I dunno why |
| 17:41.57 | abrotman | i wasn't telling you |
| 17:42.00 | stoned | or maybe I do know why |
| 17:42.07 | stoned | abrotman, but I was telling you |
| 17:42.13 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 17:42.17 | stoned | I am pretty sure I don't like testing |
| 17:42.22 | godmachine81 | i dont think there is a 386 kernel on the repos that is newer than 2.6.8 |
| 17:43.02 | abrotman | blame gcc |
| 17:43.13 | dabreegster | Must be an old package here. I remember having some problem with 15 |
| 17:43.15 | stoned | !blame gcc |
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| 17:44.34 | blame | ... |
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| 17:44.43 | stoned | lol |
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| 17:45.13 | stoned | hey cool, urdu speaking people |
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| 17:45.19 | stoned | ra-he == traveller in ur |
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| 17:50.06 | rebooted | 'lut |
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| 17:51.59 | shamu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.03 | stoned | sell |
| 17:52.05 | stoned | well |
| 17:52.12 | stoned | if ya'll are just goofing around |
| 17:52.16 | stoned | NP: Sister Machine Gun -|- Burn -|- " Burn " -|- (Other) -|- (rating: 0/40) |
| 17:52.18 | stoned | good song |
| 17:52.22 | stoned | you shoudl download it |
| 17:52.27 | orgw | what's the "wget" version of bsd? |
| 17:52.29 | orgw | lol |
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| 17:52.38 | orgw | i just don't mess with bsd |
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| 17:57.35 | solars | I want to use encfs as a user, but encfs /mnt/.. /mnt/.. says: fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: permission denied. how can I fix this ? |
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| 17:58.30 | dylan_ | theoretically, what packages do i need to install in order to be able to print any regular web page from within firefox |
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| 17:58.45 | fauxalliance | dylan_, cups. |
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| 17:58.55 | raf256` | # amoeba |
| 17:58.55 | raf256` | Unhandled exception: No direct rendering (hardware acceleration) available! (Check libGL.so.* symlinks) |
| 17:59.02 | raf256` | ^-- how to fix? even as root. |
| 17:59.04 | dylan_ | fauxalliance, is that all? cupsys? |
| 17:59.21 | freeone3000 | raf256`: Install hardware accel drivers? |
| 17:59.23 | raf256` | what to enable and what to disable to have opengl in xorg |
| 17:59.25 | dylan_ | fauxalliance, does the fact im using XFree86 mean anything to you? |
| 17:59.28 | raf256` | freeone3000: this is |
| 17:59.32 | fauxalliance | yep, setup by http://localhost:631 |
| 17:59.46 | freeone3000 | raf256`: You just have to dpkg-reconfigure it to use your video card's drivers then. |
| 17:59.58 | raf256` | Driver "siliconmotion" |
| 18:00.13 | raf256` | I use the driver. this is some build in card. |
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| 18:00.21 | dylan_ | fauxalliance, i have set it up, but it yields nothing. |
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| 18:00.30 | raf256` | what Module to load to get opengl accell? |
| 18:00.35 | freeone3000 | Not all onboards offer hardware acceleration. |
| 18:00.40 | freeone3000 | You'll have to fake it with mesa. |
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| 18:00.52 | raf256` | freeone3000: how to? |
| 18:01.05 | raf256` | what Module to use to get accell? |
| 18:01.05 | freeone3000 | Dunno, never had to. |
| 18:01.09 | fauxalliance | dylan_, can u print the cups test page? |
| 18:01.11 | raf256` | (assumnng it is supported) |
| 18:01.15 | freeone3000 | Did you try installing it at first? |
| 18:01.20 | dylan_ | fauxalliance, yes |
| 18:01.54 | WingZer0 | anyone familiar with nph cgi proxy |
| 18:01.59 | fauxalliance | strange, my canon ip3000 worked right out of the box with cups / foomatic |
| 18:02.04 | fauxalliance | w/ firefox |
| 18:02.23 | raf256` | freeone3000: how to install it? |
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| 18:02.33 | freeone3000 | raf256`: Er. Dude... You've never installed anything before? |
| 18:02.40 | raf256` | freeone3000: it was automaticly choosen when installing derbian. the driver is builded in kernel |
| 18:02.46 | raf256` | freeone3000: apt-get install usually |
| 18:03.02 | freeone3000 | raf256`: Yeah. Install mesa. See if that helps. |
| 18:03.11 | dylan_ | fauxalliance, no nothing prints w/ firefox |
| 18:03.19 | fauxalliance | how about mozilla? |
| 18:03.40 | freeone3000 | dylan_: Try running the command that firefox uses for printing (it's somewhere, I swear it) on the command line. I remember having to edit it. |
| 18:03.42 | raf256` | how to install opera? |
| 18:04.00 | dylan_ | freeone3000, isnt it lpr? |
| 18:04.26 | freeone3000 | dylan_: I believe so. |
| 18:04.31 | raf256` | brb |
| 18:04.32 | freeone3000 | raf256`: Er. How do you NORMALLY install things? |
| 18:04.43 | freeone3000 | raf256`: Use that, for everything. Until you die. Everything. Even hardware. |
| 18:04.53 | freeone3000 | Well. Maybe not hardware |
| 18:05.01 | solars | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.38 | dylan_ | freeone3000, hmmm .... lpr is installed, but when i try to print, it acts as if its preparing the document until 100%, then the dialog box exits, and ffx is looking like an idiot. |
| 18:05.38 | freeone3000 | Huh. Quite odd. |
| 18:06.10 | dylan_ | how did you configure your firefox printing? |
| 18:06.20 | freeone3000 | Er, lemme check. |
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| 18:07.13 | freeone3000 | Oh, yeh, I just set up the printer and it worked. All hail hewlett packard. |
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| 18:07.24 | dylan_ | freeone3000, when you go into your firefox printing menu, and click properties, what does the line say? |
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| 18:08.01 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 18:08.01 | freeone3000 | Paper size: Letter (8+1/2 x 11 in) |
| 18:08.02 | Mazingaro | please |
| 18:08.27 | freeone3000 | Mazingaro: Hi, you're welcome. |
| 18:08.34 | dylan_ | freeone3000, im talking about the part where is says lpr {PRINTER} whatever ... |
| 18:08.46 | Mazingaro | I've got a strange behaviour for X on unstable: when I pass from X to console with CTRL + ALT + F1 and back to X, the pointer image is corrupted |
| 18:09.18 | freeone3000 | dylan_: I can't find that one, actually. |
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| 18:11.16 | solars | alright, why do I get /dev/fuse: permission denied if fusermount has suid set and I am in the fuse group ? |
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| 18:11.45 | dylan_ | freeone3000, hmmm |
| 18:11.48 | dylan_ | well this blows. |
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| 18:16.09 | Dabian | I was asking earlier, if IMAP was the sollution to my mail-needs. |
| 18:16.43 | Dabian | I want to receive mail very fast. Not wait two minutes for fetchmail or stuff. I have my own SMTP server. |
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| 18:17.22 | Dabian | (Right now, I am using a dual mailserver sollution .. but the question is if I can do it in a better way). |
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| 18:18.15 | Dabian | solars : How do you get this error? |
| 18:18.55 | Dabian | Hmm .. I will try at the other server. |
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| 18:26.36 | dylan_ | freeone3000, when i remove xprint, fricking firefox fricking goes all slow when i try to invoke the print menu. what a POS |
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| 18:30.16 | b1rken | When i have changes something in the phpsysinfo.php, how can i reload the config file, without having to reboot the server? |
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| 18:33.15 | yang | I have HP Surestore DAT24 streamer, it is reading DDS-3, I am wondering if it can read also DDS-4 tapes, anyone knows? |
| 18:33.31 | blondie | RTFM |
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| 18:34.08 | yang | blondie: i dont have the manual for it |
| 18:34.19 | blondie | hp.com will |
| 18:34.46 | b1rken | Anyone know how i can reload the phpsysinfo config file? |
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| 18:35.18 | blondie | b1rken: it's loaded whenever you access the page |
| 18:35.39 | b1rken | Hmm, wierd. I changed the template in the config file, but it`s still the same template :- |
| 18:35.51 | blondie | maybe its cached |
| 18:36.02 | blondie | in the browser |
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| 18:44.42 | tuxlifan | hello, how dangerous is libc6 from testing at the moment when using sarge? |
| 18:45.07 | tonsofpcs | you're no longer using "stable" when you add something that isn't stable, now are you? |
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| 18:45.31 | tuxlifan | *g* yup, I feared you'd say something like that :-) |
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| 18:45.55 | tonsofpcs | personally, I don't really mind changing things around, but it gets to be a b**** since no one will help |
| 18:46.07 | tonsofpcs | speaking of which, I need to go install woody on the Alpha.... |
| 18:46.50 | tuxlifan | hmmm, do you see an alternative way for installing python2.4-gtk2? Because that gtk-thing tends to get messy when trying to compile by hand... :-S |
| 18:47.06 | Barkley | is gkrellm the defacto system monitoring tool or others i should look at? |
| 18:47.23 | tonsofpcs | Barkley: df, free |
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| 18:47.31 | streuner | there is conky, torsmo |
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| 18:47.47 | Barkley | tonsofpcs :D i mean for my desktop :d |
| 18:48.02 | tonsofpcs | Barkley: df, free ;) |
| 18:48.44 | tonsofpcs | df -h && free -m , set up something to run them once every n time, size the output window to show everything |
| 18:49.06 | Tallu | Hmm. I noticed now that for some reason usernames containing finnish characters seem to break up totally while sending email. Could this be fixed by changing the locales? |
| 18:49.29 | streuner | Barkley: apt-cache search system monitoring |
| 18:49.31 | tonsofpcs | Tallu: sending mail to them or from them? |
| 18:49.41 | tuxlifan | Barkley: if you want all in one nifty little graphic thing, I guess gkrellm is the way to go, else there are a myriad little windowmaker/etc. apps that do just one thing and are smaller |
| 18:49.42 | phaedrus44 | i am having weird network problems |
| 18:49.45 | Tallu | tonsofpcs: from them |
| 18:49.53 | Tallu | wait, i'll give you an example |
| 18:49.59 | Barkley | streuner ah good suggestion...thnx |
| 18:50.03 | tonsofpcs | Tallu: using sendmail or some SMTP interface thing? |
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| 18:50.52 | Tallu | tonsofpcs: exim4 using a smarthost |
| 18:50.57 | Tallu | Subject: test From: =?UTF-8?Q?Juuso_H=E4m=E4l=E4inen?= |
| 18:51.13 | tonsofpcs | it's sending a UTF-8 string |
| 18:51.16 | Tallu | thats what it looked like when i sent to localhost |
| 18:51.21 | tonsofpcs | i'm guessing the mailserver only supports lower ascii |
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| 18:52.02 | Tallu | It never left my computer though, so could I fix it somehow? the usernames are shown correctly in /etc/passwd but i think exim4 cant handle them |
| 18:52.12 | tonsofpcs | i'm guessing the mailserver only supports lower ascii |
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| 18:53.59 | Tallu | Hmm. Let's see. |
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| 18:58.11 | rockstar_ | can I boot into busybox and use cryptsetup for to encrypt my root partition? |
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| 18:58.30 | EvilRick | can anyone tell me how I can easily get freeradius on to etche? |
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| 18:59.26 | rockstar_ | Maybe it would be a better question to ask how I force my system into busybox... I have only seen it on severe errors, so how do I get there on purpose? |
| 19:00.07 | rockstar_ | Otherwise I'll probably have to make a Knoppix cd or something. |
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| 19:02.08 | tuxlifan | rockstar_: you could try appending init=/<path-to>/busybox to your boot line. But I haven't tried that in a long time... |
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| 19:03.58 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 19:03.59 | Mazingaro | please I've got a problem on unstable: when I pass from X to console with CTRL+ALT+F1 and then back to X with CTRL+ALT+F7, my mouse pointer become corrupted... |
| 19:04.26 | rockstar_ | Mazingaro, What kind of mouse interface? |
| 19:04.47 | Mazingaro | ps2 mouse |
| 19:05.10 | Mazingaro | the image still moving and working but it's not a pointer it is like a barcode :) |
| 19:05.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: do you know a way to generate all the thumbnails for libapache-gallery-perl? i tried wget -r but it looks for index.html.. |
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| 19:08.16 | klikklak | hi, what's the deal with nvidia-glx package going missing from etch? .. there's nvidia-glx-legacy, that I installed but does it do the same thing as nvidia-glx? |
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| 19:10.48 | deadcat | i wonder how long it would take to compile a 2.6 kernel on a 266mhz with 256MB ram? |
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| 19:12.18 | Zerial | deadcat, depend of your kernel configuration |
| 19:12.19 | tictac | deadcat: about an hour. |
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| 19:12.49 | deadcat | tictac: just an hour? |
| 19:13.01 | abrotman | deadcat: about 23.52 minutes |
| 19:13.02 | tictac | deadcat: maybe a little longer. why not just cross compile? |
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| 19:13.17 | abrotman | why does he have to cross compile? |
| 19:13.22 | deadcat | tictac: i dont know how. (=.. |
| 19:13.31 | EvilRick | erm.. so anyone know how I can easily install |
| 19:13.35 | tictac | abrotman: so it wont take as long. |
| 19:13.38 | EvilRick | deadcat: what you trying to do? |
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| 19:13.53 | abrotman | tictac: that's not cross compiling if he's doing it on the same architecture |
| 19:14.01 | deadcat | EvilRick: compile a kernel for my nslu2 Arm machine |
| 19:14.05 | tictac | deadcat: kernel-package is great. just compile it on a faster machine.. choosing all the options as the target machine. then scp over the deb and install it |
| 19:14.08 | abrotman | oh .. ewwwwwww |
| 19:14.14 | EvilRick | cross compiling is a far better option. |
| 19:14.19 | tictac | abrotman: well, whatever it's called. |
| 19:14.20 | abrotman | no way .. compile it on the arm |
| 19:14.25 | deadcat | ok |
| 19:14.30 | abrotman | start the compile .. go get lunch |
| 19:14.44 | EvilRick | I cross for mips and its a cinch |
| 19:14.46 | abrotman | btw .. while you're out .. get me a new PS2 ... |
| 19:14.49 | tictac | deadcat: you ever used kernel-package? |
| 19:14.52 | deadcat | using make-kpkg right? what options? |
| 19:15.09 | deadcat | tictac: i usually use make-kpkg --append-to-version blah... |
| 19:15.21 | EvilRick | esp for embedded systems. where you have limited FS |
| 19:15.25 | tictac | make-kpkg --clean; make menuconfig; make-kpkg --revision=X --append-to-version='-wheee' kernel_image |
| 19:15.42 | tictac | deadcat: yea, like normal. but then scp it to the target machine, install it. reboot. |
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| 19:15.55 | deadcat | tictac: wheres the architecture option? |
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| 19:16.02 | tictac | deadcat: is it a diff arch? |
| 19:16.22 | deadcat | tictac: yes. i have x86 and i want a kernel for Arm |
| 19:16.24 | klikklak | I |
| 19:16.33 | tictac | deadcat: you choose the proc type, etc, in the menuconfig. (obviously) |
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| 19:16.52 | klikklak | I'm getting memory overflow messages from glxinfo (and other glx programs).. |
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| 19:17.45 | tictac | deadcat: also use --arch arm/whatever |
| 19:17.53 | deadcat | k |
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| 19:18.35 | tictac | ive only done a cross compile once with it. x86 for a sparc. |
| 19:18.52 | tictac | deadcat: and i thought you were one of the smarter people here ;) |
| 19:19.09 | deadcat | tictac: i dont cross compile (= |
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| 19:20.30 | deadcat | tictac: and i think i still have to do some other stuff before it boots. i am using 2.6.15 (which came with the d-i), i apt-get a 2.6.16 from unstable, reboot, it still boots to 2.6.15.. i MIGHT have to do something to the firmware before it sees the new kernel. |
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| 19:21.47 | zenwryly | Is there anyway to force a relookup of a DNS resolution? |
| 19:22.49 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: afaik linux doesn't cache DNS, maybe the application is? |
| 19:23.46 | zenwryly | SerajewelKS: hmm, ok, dnsstuff.com shows the right IP but ping and others on my system show the old IP |
| 19:24.03 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: your ISP probably cached it. try 'dig'ging it. |
| 19:24.06 | EvilRick | flush the dns on your machine |
| 19:24.17 | Tallu | or maybe your getting the dns from router? |
| 19:24.19 | EvilRick | give it 60 seconds |
| 19:24.29 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: if it shows a non-"even" TTL then it's being cached on some DNS tier |
| 19:24.53 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: e.g. a TTL of 360 is clean, but something like 157 means you have 157 seconds before the DNS server cache expires |
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| 19:25.01 | xstasi | hi |
| 19:25.09 | tictac | deadcat: when you install the kernel, it should run lilo for you... |
| 19:25.12 | xstasi | i see some files in /tmp all beginning with "grub" |
| 19:25.13 | xstasi | is it normal? |
| 19:25.16 | zenwryly | SerajewelKS: excellent info, thanks so much! |
| 19:25.27 | xstasi | grub0OLyoR grub1YDlPk grub8MsmvR |
| 19:25.30 | xstasi | and so on |
| 19:25.34 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: e.g. if it's not a multiple of 60 then it's probably cached somewhere |
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| 19:25.46 | zenwryly | ok |
| 19:25.46 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: and there is *nothing* you can do except wait :( |
| 19:25.47 | zenwryly | makes sense |
| 19:25.52 | zenwryly | sounds good |
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| 19:26.17 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: round-robin DNS (like pool.ntp.org) have a TTL of 0 i believe, so each time you ask you get a new IP |
| 19:26.20 | phaethon | which package has the info pages for chmod(1)? |
| 19:26.49 | SerajewelKS | !find /chmod.1.gz |
| 19:26.58 | phaethon | info, not man. |
| 19:27.01 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/chmod.1.gz' (6 of 15): (/usr/share/man/man1/chmod.1.gz) in utils/coreutils ;; (/usr/share/man/ko/man1/chmod.1.gz) in doc/manpages-ko ;; (/usr/share/man/es/man1/chmod.1.gz) in doc/manpages-es ;; (/usr/share/man/nl/man1/chmod.1.gz) in doc/manpages-nl ;; (/usr/share/man/it/man1/chmod.1.gz) in doc/manpages-it ;; (/usr/share/man/pt/man1/chmod.1.gz) in doc/manpages-pt. |
| 19:27.02 | xstasi | anyone knows? |
| 19:27.23 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: apparently coreutils |
| 19:28.00 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: which, oddly enough, is the same package that contains chmod. weird, eh? |
| 19:28.10 | phaethon | hrm. why does "info chmod" not work as expected? |
| 19:28.18 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: oh, info pages, sorry |
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| 19:28.26 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: i read "man pages" by default |
| 19:29.16 | phaethon | SerajewelKS, in any case, now I know that chmod's info is in coreutils, but "info chmod" used to work... um... last year. |
| 19:29.44 | phaethon | and doesn't any more, which threw me for a loop. |
| 19:29.51 | zenwryly | SerajewelKS: I'm not seeing TTL in the dig output |
| 19:30.06 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: it's right before the result |
| 19:30.22 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: debian.org. 3600 IN A 192.25.206.10 <--- 3600 is the TTL |
| 19:30.37 | zenwryly | ah, ok |
| 19:30.40 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: i don't know that the infopages are in coreutils |
| 19:30.40 | zenwryly | SerajewelKS: sorry |
| 19:30.50 | SerajewelKS | zenwryly: np, it's not labelled |
| 19:31.04 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: ah, nevermind, it is |
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| 19:31.22 | phaethon | SerajewelKS, it is; "info coreutils" leads to chmod's... but "info chmod" does the (IMO) wrong thing. |
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| 19:31.44 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: ah, gotcha. file a bug :) |
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| 19:32.08 | phaethon | SerajewelKS, maybe I'm doing something wrong? |
| 19:32.14 | deadcat | tictac: the nslu2 doesnt have lilo nor grub. its ARM arch. |
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| 19:32.28 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: hmm dunno... 'info chmod' works over here =/ |
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| 19:32.44 | phaethon | SerajewelKS, which is why I think it's just me. |
| 19:32.52 | phaethon | and trying to figure out how to fix it. |
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| 19:33.21 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: try 'apt-get --reinstall install coreutils' |
| 19:34.04 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: (taking pot shots here, standard disclaimer applies) |
| 19:34.34 | phaethon | no dice :\ |
| 19:34.35 | amphi | phaethon: info coreutils chmod |
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| 19:35.31 | jelly-home | phaethon: info chmod does the wrong thing here too (ie. shows the man page in info) |
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| 19:35.51 | meff | debian's stock kernel seems to be probing my ide busses in reverse.. (hda is hdb, hdb is hda, etc..) is there a fix for this? |
| 19:35.59 | SerajewelKS | phaethon: oh yeah it shows the manpage here too... i thought you were getting an error |
| 19:36.04 | phaethon | :[ |
| 19:36.37 | SerajewelKS | !hug phaethon |
| 19:37.04 | phaethon | !botsnack |
| 19:37.04 | dpkg | phaethon: :) |
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| 19:37.58 | SerajewelKS | !:-D |
| 19:37.59 | dpkg | it has been said that :-d is :-) |
| 19:38.01 | JonJ | Please help. what does this mean: Message from syslogd@debian at Sun Jun 25 21:37:01 2006 ... |
| 19:38.01 | JonJ | debian kernel: CPU1: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 19:38.04 | phaethon | well, thanks, everyone, for helping, anyway. |
| 19:38.15 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: no, :-D is <reply> :-) |
| 19:38.16 | dpkg | okay, SerajewelKS |
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| 19:45.20 | nostalg1c | hello, i'm trying to set up my account / sshd server / putty et al to use key authentication instead of a password, but i can't seem to get the server to perform key authentication -- it always asks for a password. i have pubkeyauthentication yes and authorizedkeysfile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys in my config, i've created a key serverside, downloaded it, used puttygen on it and stored that key in pageant, then select the key in putty.. but no |
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| 19:49.42 | heres | i have a ipv6-ipv4 tunnel on eth0 question how can i delete the ipv6 and tun interface? |
| 19:51.06 | klikklak | by setting SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD to 1 X correctly show's a picture on my telly, however if I set it to 0, and then run a fullscreen program, it places it on both screens and in the middle.. is there a way around this? |
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| 19:52.08 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: AFAIK no, because that's the meaning of the flag |
| 19:52.31 | heres | how can i set the defualt ipv6 interface? |
| 19:52.33 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: do you want it on the first monitor.. or both.. or..? |
| 19:52.45 | SerajewelKS | heres: assign the default route to it |
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| 19:53.39 | heres | SerajewelKS, how??? |
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| 19:54.50 | SerajewelKS | heres: man route |
| 19:55.23 | klikklak | SerajewelKS: I just want the first monitor, with a fullscreen picture |
| 19:56.00 | Tallu | nostalg1c: did you restart the sshd? |
| 19:56.05 | heres | ifconfig http://pastebin.se/3067 how can i delete the ipv6 from eth0 and the tun interface? |
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| 19:56.22 | nostalg1c | Tallu, yea.. actually i -HUP'd it, i reloaded it, restarted, stop/start'd, but nothing :) |
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| 19:57.02 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: so set SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD to 0 |
| 19:57.13 | AndyMcGee | Which program would you use to generate a sequence of dezimal numbers with given start and end number? |
| 19:57.14 | snd-ca0106 | there's a way t place different icons on each virtual desktop (1-20) ? |
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| 19:57.42 | dabreegster | amonbish: Random? If sequential, just do perl -e 'print 1 .. 500' |
| 19:57.49 | klikklak | SerajewelKS: If I set it that, it displays the picture on both screens |
| 19:57.57 | Tallu | nostalg1c: hmm, sounds rather weird. and the file permissions are correct? |
| 19:58.02 | dabreegster | Er, AndyMcGee, that was for you |
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| 19:58.35 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: hmm? weird, it shouldn't. it should only do both if you leave it undefined. sounds like an SDL bug. |
| 19:58.36 | AndyMcGee | dabreegster, Yeah i thought about this too. I wonder if theres a good old Unix Tool for that |
| 19:58.45 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: try setting it to :0 ? |
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| 19:59.08 | dabreegster | AndyMcGee: You just want sequential, not random? That perl one-liner works. That's about as Unix as it gets I guess. |
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| 19:59.16 | klikklak | SerajewelKS: it still does the same thing.. |
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| 19:59.30 | nostalg1c | Tallu, for all i know, yes |
| 19:59.37 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: =/ |
| 19:59.41 | SerajewelKS | klikklak: take it to the BTS i guess |
| 20:00.08 | AndyMcGee | dabreegster, ;) perl -e 'print join " ",1 .. 254' |
| 20:00.17 | Tallu | nostalg1c: did you set a passphrase for the key? also if its rsa you could try having a copy called authorized_keys2 |
| 20:00.47 | nostalg1c | Tallu, yes as for the passphrase, and the key is dsa |
| 20:00.58 | dabreegster | AndyMcGee: Yeah, forgot about that. You might want newlines, depending on what you're doing with it |
| 20:01.03 | klikklak | SerajewelKS: yeah, I suppose I should |
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| 20:01.53 | nostalg1c | Tallu, how do i set up the openssh client to connect using a key? that way i can test if it's the server or the client |
| 20:03.54 | Tallu | nostalg1c: check this url and browse to public key auth http://www.usc.edu/its/doc/internet/ssh/ssh_unix.html |
| 20:04.03 | nostalg1c | thanks |
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| 20:04.31 | Tallu | nostalg1c: you're welcome :) |
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| 20:05.44 | snd-ca0106 | mouse navigation through numpad can be turned off with an hotkey/command ? |
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| 20:06.14 | snd-ca0106 | mean numlock on=no mouse move with keypad | numlock off=mouse ctrled by numpad ? |
| 20:06.30 | westside | so this may sound weird but I'm missing /sbin/init ...got my borked box booted with knoppix is there a way to build /sbin/init? Not sure how it got deleted but it's gone |
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| 20:07.58 | westside | can I copy /sbin/init from another box |
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| 20:08.32 | jelly-home | westside: are you sure there's nothing else missing? |
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| 20:08.58 | snd-ca0106 | mouse navigation through numpad can be turned off with an hotkey/command ? |
| 20:09.00 | snd-ca0106 | mean numlock on=no mouse move with keypad | numlock off=mouse ctrled by numpad ? |
| 20:09.03 | westside | no the directory /initrd was missing |
| 20:09.26 | b1rken | i have apache installed on my box, but i want it to be like when i add a user, they get their own folder (f.ex http://mydomain.com/username)? It would be nice if someone could guide me to a page where i can read something about this, havent found andything yet |
| 20:09.57 | jelly-home | westside: I suggest running a fsck -f over the device first, have you done that? |
| 20:09.59 | westside | jelly-home: basically I get passed pivot_root an the kernel panics because /sbin/init not found |
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| 20:10.14 | westside | jelly-home: yes the drive checks out |
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| 20:10.50 | jelly-home | westside: well then, seeing as /sbin/init doesn't change much, you can probably copy it even from knoppix. |
| 20:11.18 | westside | k I'll give that a go |
| 20:12.43 | jelly-home | westside: I'd also run debsums --root=/wherever, it might catch something else. |
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| 20:13.02 | xophEr | how can I make a deb-src package to a deb-file? |
| 20:13.02 | jelly-home | westside: hopefully Knoppix has debsums installed. |
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| 20:14.04 | Lupo | someone know LDAP here? |
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| 20:14.25 | Warb1 | Hello, I'm setting up a pretty minimal Debian system for someone and I have a few questions (but my modem isn't working on that system, so I have to switch between two [in other words, I won't see any messages while I'm trying things]) |
| 20:14.27 | westside | jelly-home: thx will do |
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| 20:14.35 | Tallu | nostalg1c: any luck? :) |
| 20:14.41 | ktwilight | just ask Warb1 |
| 20:15.21 | Bunta | "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such devise." |
| 20:15.30 | Lupo | ktwilight: how I can do authentication to users and groups Linux.. in base LDAP? do you know? |
| 20:15.36 | Bunta | When trying to startx |
| 20:15.41 | Warb1 | OK, first I want "/windows/My Documents" to get bound to "/home/rob/MyDocuments" but my fstab line doesn't work (with quotes around "/windows/My Documents") |
| 20:15.49 | ktwilight | no i don't Lupo |
| 20:16.00 | Lupo | thanks :) |
| 20:16.04 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 20:16.15 | jelly-home | Lupo: #ldap? |
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| 20:16.25 | Lupo | jelly-home: yes |
| 20:16.33 | ktwilight | Warb1, what do you mean bound? :/. |
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| 20:16.50 | Warb1 | ktwilight: mount --bind (in other words, a bind option in fstab) |
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| 20:17.12 | Warb1 | ktwilight: It is the space which is stopping it from working |
| 20:17.30 | jelly-home | Warb1: I don't think fstab supports blanks in directory names. |
| 20:17.32 | Nopalin | anybofy has installed gdesklets? |
| 20:17.37 | Lupo | jelly-home: did you do this?? |
| 20:18.11 | ktwilight | never use it before. dunno :/ |
| 20:18.14 | freeone3000 | Er, anyone know of a utility that'll convert a pic to ascii? |
| 20:18.21 | Warb1 | jelly-home: I originally tried "/home/rob/My Documents" but then changed it to MyDocuments (no space), but sadly I can't do the same with the Win98 directory |
| 20:18.28 | jelly-home | Lupo: no, that's why I suggest joining #ldap, maybe someone over there can point you in the right direction. |
| 20:18.32 | Bunta | When I write 'startx' I get "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such devise." |
| 20:18.38 | Warb1 | OK, I will probably use a symbolic link instead |
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| 20:18.56 | ktwilight | can't ya put it as "/home/rob/My\ Documents"? |
| 20:19.03 | jelly-home | Warb1: or use an init script. :-| |
| 20:19.08 | Warb1 | Next, how do I get XDM to login automatically? |
| 20:19.10 | kromagg | Warb1: from man (5) fstab: escape with \040 |
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| 20:19.20 | Lupo | jelly-home: I tryed.. but nothing! rs.. |
| 20:19.24 | Warb1 | kromagg: OK, I will try that |
| 20:19.26 | Lupo | I will try again.. |
| 20:19.45 | nostalg1c | Tallu, doesn't seem to work with openssh client either.. unless i screwed that up, too :) |
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| 20:20.09 | jelly-home | Lupo: oh well, google for "pam_ldap tutorial" or something like that then. |
| 20:20.14 | Tallu | nostalg1c: try creating a rsa key and try with that :) |
| 20:20.26 | nostalg1c | just did that :) |
| 20:20.35 | ktwilight | Warb1, search on google, there are some good sites to show you how ;) |
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| 20:21.07 | yuheng108 | what do I need to do in order to listen to the mv on this website?http://www.mtv.com/music/ |
| 20:21.21 | Warb1 | ktwilight: OK, but this one is really Debian specific: The locale is set to en_GB but X is using a US keyboard (in enlightenment 16) |
| 20:21.38 | nostalg1c | Tallu, i'm going to try the same thing on another box, hold on a sec |
| 20:21.45 | Tallu | nostalg1c: okay |
| 20:21.49 | ktwilight | X is defined from xorg, not locale |
| 20:22.16 | jelly-home | freeone3000: something that uses aalib, for example? |
| 20:22.26 | Warb1 | ktwilight: So what package should I reconfigure (for XFree86)? |
| 20:22.30 | Tallu | Is there a way to make exim4 accept upper-ascii by the way? To make the <from:> name-field work properly |
| 20:22.31 | freeone3000 | jelly-home: Dunno what that does. |
| 20:22.33 | ktwilight | !drxx |
| 20:22.33 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 20:22.36 | ktwilight | :) |
| 20:23.00 | Warb1 | Thanks (I am used to xorg on my box :)) |
| 20:23.05 | Warb1 | (and GNOME) |
| 20:23.11 | freeone3000 | I can't wait until the xorg upgrade filters down to Stable. |
| 20:23.18 | freeone3000 | You can have GNOME... |
| 20:23.43 | Warb1 | freeone3000: I know but this is a really minimal install (600MB max, and a 300MHz CPU) |
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| 20:23.54 | ktwilight | sometimes i just wish docs were clear, either that, or that it's easier to find for new people to know things easily... :/ |
| 20:24.02 | jelly-home | freeone3000: it's a library that provides conversion from graphic to text characters. |
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| 20:24.26 | Warb1 | ktwilight: I'm not that new, but I have never really ventured outside GNOME and CLI (so I don't know XDM for example) |
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| 20:24.32 | dabreegster | freeone3000: If you want to see the power of aalib, check out bb. It's a great demonstration. |
| 20:24.36 | freeone3000 | jelly-home: Oh. Neato. |
| 20:24.52 | ktwilight | well, you're new to XDM, for example. :) |
| 20:24.58 | usn | hi all |
| 20:25.14 | Warb1 | ktwilight: Exactly, neither GNOME or CLI. Anyway, I will try some of this stuff now |
| 20:25.31 | ktwilight | get the keyboard thing working, that's important |
| 20:25.59 | jelly-home | freeone3000: libaa-bin in unstable and aalib-bin in stable have some examples. mplayer -vo aa can use it to display video, for example. |
| 20:26.12 | Warb1 | (The reason I am not in BitchX on the box in question is that since a reboot my self-compiled eagle-usb driver now causes a kernel panic :() |
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| 20:26.51 | freeone3000 | jelly-home: Pwnzor. Thanks. |
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| 20:29.12 | AndyMcGee | Whats a good IRC Channel to have som interlectual bla bla chat? |
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| 20:30.12 | nostalg1c | Tallu, i am failure |
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| 20:32.24 | crazy_penguin | night everyone. sleep well |
| 20:32.32 | nostalg1c | Tallu, aha! hold on! :) |
| 20:33.02 | Tallu | nostalg1c: if you find out what was wrong, do tell me as well :) |
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| 20:34.07 | five0 | sorry about that |
| 20:35.17 | nostalg1c | Tallu, i think ssh wants access to my home dir itself.. which i made world-unreadable for obvious reasons :s |
| 20:35.55 | Tallu | uhm yeah. :P might want just make the new files created there unreadable |
| 20:38.06 | jelly-home | nostalg1c: ssh is be running as root in pre-auth stage so it shouldn't have problems accessing your files. |
| 20:38.21 | nostalg1c | aha! |
| 20:38.31 | nostalg1c | i had to chmod g-w my home dir |
| 20:38.43 | nostalg1c | it was not restrictive enough... |
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| 20:40.10 | Tallu | nostalg1c: works now? :) |
| 20:40.52 | nostalg1c | yes! :D |
| 20:41.02 | nostalg1c | i should have monitored my log files earlier :) |
| 20:41.08 | Tallu | nostalg1c: congratulations :) |
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| 20:43.13 | Warb1 | Great, the keyboard and mounting both work now, thanks. I'm looking for some XDM info on Google now |
| 20:44.01 | ktwilight | Warb1, serach for an autologin script. it's there somewhere. just that i can't remember the url. :/ |
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| 20:51.31 | itchi | aloa :-p |
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| 20:55.00 | sng | Yay! |
| 20:55.10 | nostalg1c | Tallu, finally doing svn on windows is no longer a complete drag :D |
| 20:56.15 | itchi | 1 81 days, 09:14:31 | Linux 2.6.8-2-386 Wed Apr 5 13:41:29 2006 |
| 20:56.26 | itchi | ^^ my old 233 Mhz :-p |
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| 20:59.51 | abrotman | !moo |
| 20:59.51 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:00.32 | blondie | !mew |
| 21:00.33 | dpkg | i guess mew is and email client for emacsen |
| 21:00.38 | blondie | :S |
| 21:00.44 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.47 | itchi | :-p |
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| 21:01.35 | itchi | These who not already have do it, try it now 'apt-get moo' (as root user) :-) |
| 21:01.58 | itchi | abrotman: It's slow here today :-/ |
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| 21:03.55 | itchi | abrotman: I guess everyone shaked of the crap hijacking of last night |
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| 21:04.50 | Ronin | itchi: naw, nice sunny day, all the geeks are outside getting thier weekly dose of sun |
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| 21:05.29 | itchi | Ronin: It's 11:08 PM here locally, we have got an rain day :-( |
| 21:05.45 | tictac | Ronin: what about those who can't stand the sun? those that sit in the heat for 4 hours and start to get blisters from that same heat source? |
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| 21:05.55 | itchi | Ronin: But i guess you're sun is comming to here :-) |
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| 21:06.36 | RolandU | hi all! I recently get more and more crashes of kde-programs without any error message - they just disappear. I am not doing anything special. Just using Mozilla, Thunderbird, Games or other programs and suddenly it's gone. This happens so often recently that it's getting hard to work on anything. Any idea how to find the cause of the problem? |
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| 21:06.57 | tictac | RolandU: start them from a terminal. |
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| 21:07.49 | RolandU | tictac, right, thats a good idea |
| 21:08.12 | itchi | RolandU: Is it in Sarge ? |
| 21:08.42 | xophEr | Hi! Im trying to dpkg-buildpackage an app, but I keep getting an error when building, could someone look at the output; http://pastebin.ca/71518 Im sure its something simple Ive forgotten.. tia |
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| 21:09.20 | RolandU | no, it's in etch. I know that etch is not stable, but everything worked properly for several months and it only started to create problems in the recent week (without doing any change to the system) |
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| 21:10.06 | itchi | RolandU: It's just to know, to get an better idea. Like tictac told you it's an good begin |
| 21:10.35 | RolandU | ah. firefox crashed within the terminal. |
| 21:10.45 | RolandU | Segmentation fault |
| 21:10.55 | tictac | heh. great error message. |
| 21:11.03 | RolandU | what does that mean? |
| 21:11.32 | itchi | xophEr: : unix errno 2 == ENOENT (#2): No such file or directory |
| 21:11.45 | tictac | means something is borked. |
| 21:11.53 | RolandU | something.... |
| 21:12.17 | xophEr | I think I found out what was causing it. I had a space in a dir. |
| 21:12.22 | itchi | RolandU: With wich app you get it ? |
| 21:12.28 | RolandU | firefox |
| 21:12.31 | tictac | generally its when a program tries to use memory it wasnt allocated. |
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| 21:12.47 | RolandU | tictac, so might the ram be broken? |
| 21:12.58 | itchi | RolandU: Backup your bookmark an try to reinstall firefox ?? |
| 21:13.08 | tictac | RolandU: have you installed new ram recently? |
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| 21:13.27 | RolandU | no, it happens with many programs, I just get that message with firefox for example |
| 21:13.53 | itchi | RolandU: memtest86 - A thorough real-mode memory tester |
| 21:14.04 | RolandU | tictac, no new ram, but I had problems with ram earlier. athlonxp-rams seem to break often. |
| 21:14.26 | itchi | RolandU: Try to test your ram ?? |
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| 21:17.12 | RolandU | are there any easier ideas what might cause the problems? |
| 21:17.25 | tictac | buggy programs. :P |
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| 21:17.46 | RolandU | programs don't get buggy after working properly for two months |
| 21:17.55 | tictac | you said you didnt change (upgrade/distupgrade) recently... so perhaps the ram is the issue. |
| 21:18.18 | itchi | RolandU: Like we told you, try first to test your RAM ?? |
| 21:18.30 | tictac | odd, however, that you run etch and havent upgraded in the last 2 months. :P |
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| 21:19.00 | RolandU | tictac: had a lot to do and didn't want to risk breaking the working system. |
| 21:19.04 | hou5ton | I'm not sure I'm welcome here ... but just in case, I've just installed Ubuntu Dapper. Breezy worked just fine, but the Dapper refuses to allow my laptop screen to be 1440x900. I've worked on it for a long time, and the Ubuntu channel is out of answers. ??? |
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| 21:19.25 | streuner | wow, that was a nice game :-) |
| 21:19.56 | streuner | hou5ton: #ubuntu |
| 21:20.12 | tictac | hou5ton: try #ubuntu once more. we dont help with ubuntu issues here. |
| 21:20.34 | tictac | hou5ton: if we used it, we would also be there :P |
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| 21:21.10 | hou5ton | tictac: just curious ... kind of new to the linux deal ... do the debian people and the ubuntu people get along ... or not? |
| 21:21.25 | eastwood | hou5ton, yeah, kinda |
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| 21:21.43 | hou5ton | I've heard debian is more stable ... but old programs |
| 21:21.44 | eastwood | but only in february 29th |
| 21:21.59 | eastwood | hou5ton, you can use testing |
| 21:22.01 | streuner | hm, every 4 years... |
| 21:22.10 | eastwood | instead of stable |
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| 21:22.53 | hou5ton | if I switch to debian ... will my laptop do 1440x900 :-) |
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| 21:23.08 | streuner | hou5ton: i would say no |
| 21:23.14 | eastwood | thats up to xorg |
| 21:23.16 | itchi | hou5ton: We want somethings _stable_ not somethings that break evey x time :-/ We have made an choice :-p |
| 21:23.21 | streuner | hou5ton: xorg is pretty the same to every distro... |
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| 21:24.00 | RolandU | I will go and run memtest. thanks for the help! |
| 21:24.01 | hou5ton | ok ... well, thanks for the answers. |
| 21:24.11 | hou5ton | i'll keep trying |
| 21:24.18 | streuner | good luck |
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| 21:24.31 | itchi | hou5ton: Give it an try man ;-) |
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| 21:24.58 | xshit | What is OFTC? |
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| 21:25.17 | streuner | xshit: some network, the same like freenode |
| 21:25.24 | itchi | !oftc |
| 21:25.24 | dpkg | somebody said oftc was the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. See also <freenode> and <fact sharing> |
| 21:25.40 | itchi | ... Open and Free Technology Community ... :-) |
| 21:25.43 | streuner | xshit: why do you ask? |
| 21:25.59 | xshit | Is that where the "Official" Debian channel is? |
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| 21:26.11 | streuner | xshit: no |
| 21:26.19 | streuner | xshit: read topic |
| 21:26.40 | itchi | xshit: Try '/topic' |
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| 21:27.14 | xshit | I just saw a message that said irc.debian.org moved there 6-4. |
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| 21:27.55 | itchi | xshit: Look to '/msg dpkg oftc move' |
| 21:28.42 | itchi | xshit: Get it? |
| 21:29.05 | xshit | is irc.debian.org like developers and real gearheads only? |
| 21:29.50 | streuner | you should read the topic |
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| 21:30.25 | xshit | Okay, I'll just lurk. Thanks. |
| 21:30.38 | blondie | irc.debian.org sux0r |
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| 21:31.07 | streuner | heh :-) |
| 21:31.16 | streuner | keep in mind it was FN before... |
| 21:31.26 | blondie | yes |
| 21:31.30 | blondie | oftc sucks :P |
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| 21:31.47 | streuner | thats crap |
| 21:32.19 | streuner | many of us hanging in OFTC around too... |
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| 21:32.58 | streuner | we are part of the debian community no matter where they actually are... |
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| 21:35.18 | rvgate | Why am i unable to install nvidia-kernel-common.... ? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers <- using that quide |
| 21:35.36 | rvgate | It says its unable to find the package |
| 21:35.41 | ktwilight | xorg7? |
| 21:36.02 | rvgate | i have no idea |
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| 21:36.35 | itchi | rvgate: dpkg -l xorg |
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| 21:37.37 | streuner | blondie: any idea who is there? |
| 21:37.56 | streuner | blondie: many DD's and many of us too... |
| 21:38.05 | itchi | rvgate: ... and ? |
| 21:38.28 | rvgate | 7.0.22 |
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| 21:39.15 | streuner | hi lilo |
| 21:39.39 | rvgate | found it, it was in contrib non-free |
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| 21:39.50 | itchi | we hope lilo have been sleep right now after an such crap :-/ |
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| 21:40.53 | spldart | In apt there are no newer kernel's for k6 processors... Do I have an easy option other than running a 2.4 -k6? |
| 21:41.05 | tictac | spldart: why not compile your own? |
| 21:41.15 | spldart | I'm running sarge testing netinst on a test rig |
| 21:41.41 | spldart | how much is involved in compiling my own kernel? some tools availabe through apt? |
| 21:41.54 | spldart | can yah link me to a tutorial? |
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| 21:42.24 | tictac | apt-get install libncurses5-dev build-essential gcc-3.4 kernel-package wget |
| 21:42.37 | tictac | !google debian kernel compile |
| 21:42.50 | spldart | thanks... was googling a bit already |
| 21:42.55 | spldart | I'll get those packages |
| 21:43.14 | tictac | google for make-kpkg howto |
| 21:43.41 | tictac | should be the first link. |
| 21:44.01 | itchi | tictac: Yeah, Debian are always the first one :-) |
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| 21:47.02 | spldart | thanks.... apt got those packages and reading that first google hit :) |
| 21:47.27 | af_ | Hi, I did a kernel upgrade : built it with the same config. it freezes on init 2 |
| 21:47.39 | af_ | any hints , things to wtahc for? |
| 21:47.42 | af_ | watch |
| 21:47.53 | af_ | it's a 2.4 27 |
| 21:50.14 | spldart | So I know I need the source for a kernel.. in this case I'm apt-get ing 2.6.16 source.. do I need tree or patch too? |
| 21:51.07 | tictac | yes. grab the entire source. |
| 21:51.30 | tictac | linux-2.6.16.tar.gz or tar.bz2, depending on your preference. |
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| 21:52.07 | af_ | one of the last message was: can't create lock file /etc/mtab~34: permission denied |
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| 21:52.10 | spldart | like I said. I'm just apt-getting... unless It's better to download a tar from debian and unpack it |
| 21:52.21 | tictac | use apt get for the packages. |
| 21:52.26 | spldart | k |
| 21:52.28 | tictac | use wget for the kernel source . |
| 21:52.38 | tictac | dont get a kernel-source package from debian. |
| 21:52.39 | j2^ | Evening all! |
| 21:53.36 | j2^ | What may be the clever/easy way to migrate a cpl of 3.1 systems into a VMWare ESX enviroment? |
| 21:53.43 | amphi | tictac: why not? |
| 21:54.34 | tictac | well there really isnt a reason not to, i just prefer to have a clean source, thats all. |
| 21:54.48 | spldart | ah |
| 21:54.52 | tictac | linux-source generally isnt updated with the latest kernel, either. |
| 21:55.02 | tictac | err kernel-source* |
| 21:55.04 | amphi | tictac: just wondering - I'm running a vanilla kernel here too |
| 21:55.10 | tictac | blah. |
| 21:56.47 | pingouin | why i can't install OpenOffice 2 from backport ? : apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice.org openoffice.org-base || The following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org-base: Depends: java-gcj-compat but it is not installable or j2re1.4 but it is not installable or java2-runtime but it is not installable ? why i'm supose to do ? |
| 21:57.28 | pingouin | (i have add backport in my source.list for sure, an apt-get updated before apt-get install ) |
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| 21:58.08 | azeem | pingouin: get some java JRE first, I'd say |
| 21:58.47 | pingouin | azeem: it's a « must » ? can't i have Openoffice 2 without Java ? |
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| 21:59.00 | azeem | pingouin: apparently not |
| 21:59.09 | pingouin | azeem: damn.... |
| 21:59.18 | tictac | lol |
| 21:59.29 | azeem | pingouin: well, dunno? Maybe investigate by looking at the package dependencies? |
| 21:59.30 | tictac | no java here. |
| 22:00.05 | pingouin | why does openoffice.org give only damn RPM to install OO2 ?! |
| 22:00.53 | rebooted | tchô |
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| 22:03.06 | pyroplasm | j2^: fastest and easiest way: copy the vmware tools so you have them on the local machine, generate a hd image, create a new virtual machine and clone the system from the image. you definitively need to test if the machine boots on buslogic and/or lsilogic and if you can install/build the vmware drivers (vmxnet) from the tar.gz. |
| 22:03.32 | tictac | pfft. |
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| 22:15.16 | calmar | hi all, sometimes I can not mount my flash-storage. restart helps then sometimes. any other good solution maybe? |
| 22:15.46 | azeem | calmar: check dmesg on whether it maybe changed device nodes |
| 22:15.56 | azeem | calmar: how do you mount your flash-storage? |
| 22:17.41 | calmar | in fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/cam0 auto noauto,user 0 0 then just mount the directory. |
| 22:18.39 | azeem | so probably the kernel assigns it /dev/sdb1 because it thinks sda is already taken |
| 22:18.56 | azeem | check the kernel logs, e.g. with `dmesg' |
| 22:20.32 | spldart | I've loaded my 2.6.15-1-486 config to my 2.6.15 source in make menuconfig and I've changed the processor to k6 but is there anything else I should do or go on to build this? |
| 22:21.16 | calmar | azeem: it just says if has found that usb-storage, but not to what it sets it. or should it? hm. |
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| 22:21.41 | azeem | calmar: it should, usually |
| 22:21.57 | azeem | calmar: what kernel version do you have? And what version of Debian? |
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| 22:23.01 | calmar | 2.6.17 and unstable. hm. I try to play around with it somemore. thanks a lot for the help so long..! |
| 22:23.06 | Storkk | how can i find out what charset my filesystem uses? |
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| 22:23.30 | IloveDebian | hi folks |
| 22:23.47 | IloveDebian | anybody here? |
| 22:23.51 | Ronin | IloveDebian: nope |
| 22:24.01 | azeem | calmar: if you use GNOME or KDE, they have more reliable automounters via udev and HAL |
| 22:24.06 | IloveDebian | lol |
| 22:24.09 | Ronin | best just to ask the questions and wait IloveDebian |
| 22:24.28 | IloveDebian | ok i have a problem with my kernel |
| 22:24.39 | IloveDebian | i have my root-partition on lvm |
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| 22:24.50 | IloveDebian | i loaded the sources from kernel.org |
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| 22:25.16 | IloveDebian | i ve made my configuration |
| 22:25.45 | IloveDebian | and i compiled them with make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 22:25.59 | IloveDebian | but now if i want to install them |
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| 22:26.38 | IloveDebian | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/vg_XXXX-lv_XXXX_root: Kernel does not support LVM Failed to create initrd image. |
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| 22:26.47 | IloveDebian | it gives me this message |
| 22:26.58 | IloveDebian | so i cant boot with this kernel |
| 22:27.04 | IloveDebian | sorry for my bad english |
| 22:27.29 | calmar | azeem: I see. I check that too |
| 22:27.52 | Amarande | IloveDebian, when you configured your kernel, did you make *sure* to put in everything you needed? |
| 22:28.15 | Amarande | It sounds like you forgot to include something necessary. Go back and make SURE. |
| 22:28.18 | IloveDebian | i compiled the device-mapper support and the cramfs support in |
| 22:28.44 | IloveDebian | it should work with this |
| 22:28.50 | IloveDebian | config |
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| 22:29.52 | IloveDebian | what should be needed i could have forgotten? |
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| 22:32.42 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.05 | itchi | hhhmm, what to choice for new pass :-p |
| 22:33.08 | skullbox | on dell optiplex and cant change resolution |
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| 22:33.37 | skullbox | I'm* |
| 22:33.37 | mansu | hi all |
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| 22:33.41 | calmar | that's the output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/uy4NT614.html (the 8 try already :( |
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| 22:34.02 | itchi | I case of ^^ :-p |
| 22:34.10 | mansu | has anyone tried easyubuntu on debian? |
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| 22:34.56 | Deedubb | Hello. I'm trying to establish whats the best way to cache nfs shares, nscd was the old way, do I still need that? |
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| 22:36.05 | pdk | heh |
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| 22:36.23 | Amarande | Wow, X uses surprisingly little bandwidth. |
| 22:36.32 | Amarande | I figured that a network GUI would be bandwidth-expensive. |
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| 22:45.57 | magyar | is firefox hacked? |
| 22:46.08 | pinky | So if the Half-Life engine contains source code from the Quakeworld and Quake 2 engines which are both GPLed, shouldn't the copyleft clause require that it too be GPLed? Or is it because valvE licensed that code from id Software BEFORE they GPLed their engines? |
| 22:46.26 | pinky | Does that make the GPL's copyleft clause in this case useless? |
| 22:46.50 | pinky | I mean valvE can legally have GPLed code in the Half-Life engine and keep it closed source because of this, right? |
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| 22:49.59 | Vaylor | hi |
| 22:50.06 | itchi | dondelelcaro: I not know if it's an good idea: Can you make an notice or put it in topic or whatever to notice that users change his pass of ChanServ and nickserv ? |
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| 22:50.46 | *** topic/#debian by azeem -> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC June 4th - /msg dpkg oftc move | Change your nickserv password | STATUS: http://wiki.debian.org/Status | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
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| 22:51.25 | Dunedan | "You do not have PyQT installed. This is a critical dependency for Liquid Weather ++. Please install it and try again." <- Does anybody know why this message appears. I got python2.4-qt3 installed. |
| 22:51.33 | itchi | azeem: Thank you :-) |
| 22:51.42 | itchi | hehe |
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| 22:54.07 | Warbo | Hello, I'm back (I was Warb1 before since GAIM screwed up) I need some way of autologging in a |
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| 22:54.22 | Warbo | sorry, autologgin in a user in X using XDM or a script |
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| 23:00.23 | mcrea | hi |
| 23:00.53 | mcrea | i cant see sarge .iso's anywhere |
| 23:01.13 | mcrea | where can i install iso images? |
| 23:01.24 | EdLin | !d-i mcrea |
| 23:01.24 | dpkg | mcrea, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:01.50 | AndyMcGee | What linux software can print the binary representation of a decimal number |
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| 23:02.33 | mcrea | thanks |
| 23:02.38 | mcrea | another question |
| 23:02.57 | unix_infidel | AndyMcGee: you mean turn the float into machine code? |
| 23:03.42 | mcrea | for minimal installation first and second images are enough? |
| 23:03.42 | amphi | AndyMcGee: bc |
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| 23:04.21 | amphi | AndyMcGee: eg. echo 'obase=2; 255' | bc |
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| 23:04.57 | EdLin | mcrea: yes, unlike other distros Debian can install with as many CDs as you want |
| 23:05.23 | EdLin | mcrea: the software is arranged from most popular to least |
| 23:05.29 | AndyMcGee | amphi, Great, thanks for your help |
| 23:05.44 | amphi | AndyMcGee: yw |
| 23:05.57 | zeccoz | I need help with X... (I'm booting from a Mandrake Live CD atm) on my 'COMPLETELY' Installed Debian system |
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| 23:07.43 | EdLin | zeccoz: did you install x-window-system-core myxterm mywm ? |
| 23:08.10 | zeccoz | it's loading x but it looks glitched up and it beeps |
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| 23:08.49 | zeccoz | I did NetInstall |
| 23:09.11 | itchi | hehe everyone change his pass look to the logon/switch/quit ;-) |
| 23:09.36 | itchi | It's the moment to know the nicks everyone have |
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| 23:13.16 | amphi | itchi: you're obsessed ;) |
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| 23:13.31 | itchi | amphi: A bit a bit ... :-) |
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| 23:16.56 | MatBoy | Who what happened with the channel ? Did I miss something ? |
| 23:18.27 | amphi | MatBoy: "freenode has experienced another compromise", quoth lilo |
| 23:18.43 | MatBoy | amphi, hehe :P |
| 23:19.10 | MatBoy | Does someone know how to secure a NFS-filesystem ? |
| 23:19.31 | abrotman | nfs over ssh! |
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| 23:19.47 | CodeWarrior_ | hello folks |
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| 23:19.50 | MatBoy | abrotman, only way ? |
| 23:19.55 | abrotman | i'm joking |
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| 23:19.59 | abrotman | MatBoy: secure how? |
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| 23:20.26 | MatBoy | abrotman, so only the boxes that you want to connect, let them connect. So also not with an IP-spoof |
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| 23:20.44 | abrotman | on the internet? |
| 23:20.54 | MatBoy | yep |
| 23:21.05 | tictac | whoops. wrong channel. :P |
| 23:21.10 | CodeWarrior_ | I´d want to install AMD64 version (testing) , but my main use of the machine is desktop stuff. I´d like to know if there´s a way to compile programs for 64bits using the 32bits version of the OS ? |
| 23:21.16 | spldart | I hadn't realized how cpu intensive a kernel build was :eek: |
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| 23:21.58 | spldart | hehe..I transported a 440 RB in the trunk of my car :) |
| 23:22.21 | MatBoy | spldart, a what ? |
| 23:22.44 | abrotman | MatBoy: why are you using nfs over the internet? |
| 23:23.10 | spldart | in response to tic tac's oops wrong channel.. I transported a 440 chrysler raised block in the trunk of my car once... why not his 3.8 and tranny in his |
| 23:23.22 | MatBoy | abrotman, I need to let 2 webservers connect to a NFS storage. They are all in a Colo-room |
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| 23:23.37 | MatBoy | abrotman, I can make firewallrules offcourse |
| 23:23.39 | MatBoy | -f |
| 23:23.42 | abrotman | !shfs |
| 23:23.42 | dpkg | shfs is, like, http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ "Mount ANY dir from ANY host in the SECURE way"SHFS is a simple and easy to use Linux kernel (2.4+) module which allows you to mount remote filesystems using plain shell (ssh/rsh) connection. It supports some nice features like number of different caches for access speedup, target system optimisations, etc. |
| 23:23.46 | calmar | azeem: hm. this time I was the 'idiot'. I forgot to enable scsi-drive-support. I discovered that, while restarting and it did still not work. thanks a lot anyway! (new kernel since 2 days) |
| 23:23.53 | zeccoz | I wonder If I can mount my hard disk from this live CD |
| 23:24.04 | abrotman | MatBoy: why not setup a VPN? and do nfs over the vpn ? |
| 23:24.25 | MatBoy | abrotman, complex ? O was almost thinking of using ISCSI |
| 23:24.30 | MatBoy | O=I |
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| 23:24.56 | abrotman | MatBoy: i'd go with a VPN and then some sort of filesharing over the VPN |
| 23:25.10 | MatBoy | abrotman, will this be fast enough ? |
| 23:25.25 | abrotman | MatBoy: i have no idea what your T/DSL/Cable runs at |
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| 23:25.50 | MatBoy | It's all behind a BI8K... so fast enought ;) |
| 23:26.03 | MatBoy | BTW... all systems are on a 10/100 switch |
| 23:26.07 | MatBoy | those 3 |
| 23:26.36 | abrotman | so uhm .. why are you going through all this trouble? |
| 23:26.48 | abrotman | how many NICs does each machine ahve? |
| 23:27.12 | MatBoy | 2 :) OK, I can make a seperate LAN for it |
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| 23:27.37 | abrotman | you can |
| 23:28.07 | MatBoy | abrotman, and route it on a private-range ? |
| 23:28.11 | abrotman | there are a large number of things you can do .. when you said internet .. i thought you meant the webservers were in canada and you were in argentina |
| 23:28.31 | MatBoy | abrotman, no, not that kind of... I would use VPN than indeed ! |
| 23:28.49 | abrotman | MatBoy: you could use shfs .. and use keys |
| 23:29.33 | MatBoy | abrotman, All those extra cables normally. Maybe SHFS is a good idea ! |
| 23:29.56 | abrotman | MatBoy: it's in FUSE .. i think |
| 23:30.13 | MatBoy | abrotman, FUSE ? |
| 23:30.20 | abrotman | !fuse |
| 23:30.20 | dpkg | from memory, fuse is at http://fuse.sf.net/, is Filesystem in USEerspace, enables you to mount various exotic filesystems, like samba workgroups, tar files, ftp sites etc. Fuse is packaged in debian and already included in recent 2.6.x kernels. |
| 23:30.36 | abrotman | by recent .. i think they mean 2.6.16 and newer |
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| 23:31.45 | MatBoy | abrotman, ah OK ! I need it on CentOS, but they are not that nice in that channel :D |
| 23:32.04 | abrotman | so ask ##linux? |
| 23:32.11 | abrotman | don't ask #debian for non-debina questions |
| 23:32.12 | abrotman | please |
| 23:32.28 | MatBoy | abrotman, I'm running debian here :) |
| 23:32.36 | abrotman | but the machines in question aren't |
| 23:33.03 | MatBoy | abrotman, the testmachines will ! |
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| 23:33.12 | andriijas | how do i create a sit1 device? |
| 23:33.34 | MatBoy | abrotman, every NFS-server will be Debian... but I need CentOS for some special software that can;t run under Debian :( |
| 23:34.06 | Aim_Here | Software that can't run under debian? What blasphemy is this? |
| 23:34.23 | huma | Aim_Here :) |
| 23:34.48 | abrotman | MatBoy: like what? |
| 23:35.05 | MatBoy | abrotman, not supported |
| 23:35.09 | abrotman | such as? |
| 23:35.11 | MatBoy | custom stuff |
| 23:35.59 | abrotman | such as? |
| 23:36.11 | MatBoy | there are a lot of programs that will not run under specific versions... in certan Control Panels... the developers have their own favorites |
| 23:36.18 | abrotman | such as? |
| 23:36.44 | abrotman | basically .. you'll come to #debian and ask about non-debian questions .. but not run debian because the developers are morons ? |
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| 23:37.42 | Amarande | hey, do you know a good program in debian for drawing maps for Dungeons & Dragons and the like? |
| 23:37.43 | MatBoy | abrotman, I will use my NFS-server on Debian because it's a nice management. It depends on the fact if the system needs to be a specific NFS-server or have 2 tasks |
| 23:38.24 | abrotman | Amarande: inkscape might be ok at it |
| 23:38.34 | abrotman | MatBoy: and they use centos because they're morons? |
| 23:38.48 | Amarande | abrotman, what's inkscape like? I don't think I've ever tried it |
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| 23:38.55 | abrotman | it's like .. a program :) |
| 23:39.17 | Amarande | oh, it's already installed on alviarin :) |
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| 23:43.11 | evil_andy | ok, I'm not finding a whole lot of GOOD info about this... I want to mirror sarge i386 and sparc on a local APT repository... how do I do this? I see all the sites about generating an apt repository, but shouldn't I be able to just rsync something? |
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| 23:43.52 | abrotman | evil_andy: debian.org/mirrors .. should have a link to explain it |
| 23:44.02 | evil_andy | abrotman, thanks, I'll check |
| 23:45.00 | abrotman | evil_andy: it is a lot of data though |
| 23:45.20 | evil_andy | abrotman, it's cool, I install enough machines without cdrom drives that the initial burst will be worth it |
| 23:45.39 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 23:45.40 | evil_andy | I'm actually setting up a machine dedicated to debian, and redhat repositories |
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| 23:46.00 | golly | can anyone help me figure out how to autostart vncserver on boot so I don't have to use a moniter and keyboard to manually start it!!! |
| 23:46.01 | evil_andy | and btw, you rock, found the link :) |
| 23:46.21 | abrotman | !run at boot |
| 23:46.21 | dpkg | To run something at boot, either use an @reboot cronjob (man 5 crontab). Or ask me about "update-rc.d" and "rcconf". |
| 23:46.27 | abrotman | erm.. not it |
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| 23:50.29 | golly | !rcconf |
| 23:50.29 | dpkg | well, rcconf is a frontend to the update-rc.d, or check out sysv-rc-conf ...and if it's broken, try this: for a in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/???jabber) ; do rm $a ; done |
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| 23:55.28 | abrotman | golly: read /etc/init.d/readme |
| 23:55.34 | abrotman | erm .. README |
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| 23:58.51 | golly | abrotman: yeah, I'm a bit of a noob....sorry...don't really understand run levels. I'm going down the crontab @reboot route methinks |
| 23:59.07 | abrotman | golly: eh .. ok |
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| 23:59.51 | unix_infidel | uh oh. |
