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| 00:01.24 | Dwonis | personally, I'd walk over to the box and run "sha1sum /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*key*" a few times and compare |
| 00:01.56 | xris | every time I reboot the machine, it gets a new key |
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| 00:02.42 | Dwonis | I'd also run "for f in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub ; do ssh-keygen -l -f "$f" ; done" to get the key fingerprints |
| 00:02.48 | Dwonis | xris: Are you running Knoppix? |
| 00:02.59 | xris | no, etch |
| 00:03.15 | Stevie-O | xris: Wait, how do you know it's getting a new key? |
| 00:03.30 | xris | because my ssh client complains that it's changed every time I try to connect |
| 00:03.38 | Stevie-O | could that be because the IP address is changing? |
| 00:03.43 | xris | no, it's static |
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| 00:04.01 | Dwonis | xris: Do you have physical access to the server? |
| 00:04.03 | dhuv | hello all |
| 00:04.06 | xris | Dwonis: yeah |
| 00:04.09 | stew | xris: have you looked at /var/log/syslog or /var/log/auth.log? |
| 00:04.32 | dhuv | can anybody help me make thunderbird the default email application in firefox, both firefox and thunderbird are debian packages |
| 00:04.54 | dhuv | I know I can do update-alternate --config x-www-browser |
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| 00:04.59 | dhuv | but thats only to make firefox the default |
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| 00:05.10 | xris | ok, really weird... the key is fine... it's just being rejected by my ssh client each time I connect |
| 00:05.21 | Dwonis | xris: Then I suggest you check the key fingerprints ("for f in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub ; do ssh-keygen -l -f $f ; done") a few times and compare with what the client is saying. Even if it's not an outright attack, you'll know it's a networking problem if the server fingerprints never change, but the client ones do. |
| 00:05.35 | Dwonis | xris: I mean, "but the client says they do" |
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| 00:06.17 | xris | Dwonis: the weirdness... I ssh in, get new key, reboot.. ssh in again, client complains so I comment out the "old" key in known_hosts, ssh in and get "new" key... data in known_hosts is the same for each key |
| 00:06.18 | `ns` | 1has firefox become unstable in testing ? I'm getting at least one crash per day. or should I just try re-installing it |
| 00:07.09 | dhuv | `ns`: I use firefox in testing and its fine |
| 00:07.21 | dhuv | does it crash at a certain site? |
| 00:07.28 | Dwonis | xris: I realize that, but what I'm saying is that you don't know *for sure* that the keys are really changing on the server. |
| 00:07.31 | Stevie-O | xris: What is the client's precise complaint? |
| 00:07.48 | xris | Dwonis: that's what I'm saying.. they're *not* changing but it's acting like they are |
| 00:08.08 | Stevie-O | xris: furthermore... what client? |
| 00:08.15 | Dwonis | xris: ah.. I see |
| 00:08.15 | xris | Stevie-O: my workstation is fc5 |
| 00:08.22 | `ns` | crashes at many of the heavier sites. crashing at dailykos right now ... twice in a row |
| 00:08.23 | stew | xris: have you tried ssh -v (or -vvv) to see what it has to say? |
| 00:08.34 | Dwonis | xris: can you paste your known-hosts file? |
| 00:08.40 | Stevie-O | stew: that was going to be my suggestion |
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| 00:08.48 | dbeauchesne | Hey guys |
| 00:09.04 | dbeauchesne | what's the command to configure my locales? The same one that is available at startup? |
| 00:09.07 | xris | I think maybe there's an ip conflict somewhere |
| 00:09.14 | abrotman | dbeauchesne: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:09.18 | dbeauchesne | cool thanks |
| 00:09.35 | xris | suddenly I can't get into the box at all |
| 00:09.55 | Stevie-O | xris: got tethereal on a box? |
| 00:10.01 | Stevie-O | possibly the one you're connecting from? |
| 00:10.18 | magyar | is freenode back to norm? |
| 00:10.19 | Stevie-O | tethereal ether proto arp # you may need: tethereal ether proto \\arp |
| 00:10.28 | xris | Stevie-O: easier to just go poke the kvm in the server room and check ip's |
| 00:10.48 | Stevie-O | But not as cool. |
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| 00:16.57 | adcurit1 | is there a way I can upgrade from stable to testing or unstable? |
| 00:17.02 | adcurit1 | without reinstalling? |
| 00:17.28 | dabreegster | !tell adcurit1 about sarge->etch |
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| 00:18.32 | Dwonis | !sid upgrade |
| 00:18.33 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 00:19.00 | bel0ved | hey, how can i modify GRUB so that it makes windows start as the default and linux starts if i choose it? |
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| 00:19.31 | dbeauchesne | thanks again |
| 00:20.03 | dabreegster | bel0ved: You'd change the order of the kernels in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but do so very carefully. I dunno what Windows definitions in grub look like |
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| 00:20.26 | orreu | hi, i have an issue |
| 00:20.43 | orreu | i installed WLAN0 with ndiswrapper, but link quality is 0. i get 'very good' in windows. whats going on? |
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| 00:23.51 | witless | on boot, how do i ensure that raid md0 has been started before drives get mounted, so it gets mounted as well? |
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| 00:25.02 | witless | i'm using sarge btw |
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| 00:31.03 | magyar | what is the equivalent to "mydestination" in exim? |
| 00:31.05 | killown | which is the configurations minimal to run kde ? |
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| 00:31.14 | abrotman | you mean CPU/RAM ? |
| 00:31.32 | killown | abrotman yes |
| 00:31.37 | Dwonis | witless: I forget, but I think you want "persistent-superblock" in /etc/raidtab or something. Or maybe it's a mdadm option. |
| 00:31.47 | abrotman | probably a PII and 128MB would work .. slowly .. but would work |
| 00:32.15 | sussudio | abrotman: runs fine |
| 00:32.31 | abrotman | sussudio: i mean compared to a P4 with 1GB of ram :) |
| 00:32.32 | killown | abrotman which configuration to work fast? |
| 00:32.33 | sussudio | abrotman: surprisingly so, actually. |
| 00:32.42 | sussudio | abrotman: *shrug* |
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| 00:34.26 | witless | Dwonis: thanks |
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| 00:41.05 | itchi | itchi are happy that his P1 100 Mhz 32 MB RAM and fluxbox runs, it's average fast if i look to an +- 2Ghz computer with crap of spyware and M$ |
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| 00:41.54 | falkon | Okay, I've got a sound problem using alsa. It definitely has to do with permissions, not hardware. I added the user to the audio group. What else do I need to do? |
| 00:42.33 | abrotman | what's the error ? |
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| 00:43.36 | eyegore | when I right click on the desktop, the menu that pops up is missing the terminal launcher, is there a way to add that? |
| 00:43.43 | falkon | if I try to run a program such as alsamixergui I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device' |
| 00:43.50 | itchi | It taka my 45 minutes to look to it :-/ and to get the conclussion the the only to format C and rebegin :-/ That's looks pro to say that the computer needs format C |
| 00:45.21 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:45.31 | abrotman | does *anything* build on arm ? |
| 00:45.45 | falkon | good question |
| 00:45.55 | falkon | abrotman: did you see the error I posted up there? |
| 00:46.03 | itchi | falkon: Is the sound module loaded ? |
| 00:46.14 | abrotman | falkon: any drivers loaded? any OSS emulation drivers loaded? |
| 00:46.16 | falkon | itchi: sound works fine for root |
| 00:46.18 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 00:46.22 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 00:46.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 00:46.47 | fauxalliance | plugged in shuld be there too. |
| 00:47.13 | falkon | Viktor:/home/falkon# groups falkon |
| 00:47.14 | falkon | falkon : audio video global |
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| 00:48.13 | itchi | falkon: Need you not to be are un the users group ? |
| 00:48.27 | itchi | bbbrr my typo's :-/ |
| 00:48.36 | falkon | users groups? |
| 00:48.39 | falkon | hmm |
| 00:48.40 | abrotman | abrotman dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev nvram |
| 00:48.50 | abrotman | i'm not either |
| 00:48.56 | lakez | I'm retiring a machine,and want to move users from one box to another .. same passwords.. anyone know how I do it ? can you just cat /etc/shadow from one machine to another ? |
| 00:49.13 | mage_ | heh im just users audio |
| 00:49.14 | abrotman | cp ? |
| 00:49.15 | itchi | david disk lp dialout fax cdrom floppy audio video plugdev games users camera scanner |
| 00:49.26 | abrotman | hey .. the nvram was for the TP buttons! |
| 00:49.31 | tonybaloney86 | hi guys, i'm having trouble installing Debian on my system. the installer refuses to mount the CD-ROM and locks up when it tries to do so. Any way of getting past this? |
| 00:49.47 | falkon | tonybaloney86: laptop? |
| 00:49.50 | itchi | So 'users dialout fax' /dev/null ?? |
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| 00:50.10 | abrotman | i don't fax stuff |
| 00:50.11 | tonybaloney86 | falkon: nope, old Pentium desktop |
| 00:50.23 | abrotman | tonybaloney86: with which installer? |
| 00:50.30 | falkon | tonybaloney86: try install26 noapic nolapic |
| 00:50.33 | falkon | that's what worked for me |
| 00:50.33 | tonybaloney86 | abrotman: the Debian Stable one |
| 00:50.51 | abrotman | tonybaloney86: tried both kernels? |
| 00:50.52 | tonybaloney86 | ok, i'll give that a try |
| 00:51.14 | tonybaloney86 | abrotman: yes, but not with the noapic nolapic options on the 2.6 kernel |
| 00:51.19 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:52.31 | metaperl | what is the best free JRE that ships with Debian/testing? |
| 00:52.50 | falkon | !java-package |
| 00:52.51 | dpkg | i guess java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 00:54.08 | metaperl | falkon: that is not a free one... |
| 00:54.12 | metaperl | I want the best one that is just a simple apt-get install $package_name |
| 00:54.23 | metaperl | which probably boils down to blackdown versus gcj |
| 00:54.56 | abrotman | blackdown is just as free as sun |
| 00:55.10 | abrotman | metaperl: ask #debian-java |
| 00:55.19 | metaperl | abrotman: ok thanks |
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| 00:56.12 | metaperl | abrotman: that channel is termianted |
| 00:56.36 | abrotman | metaperl: on OFTC .. sorry |
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| 00:56.55 | farous | is there a command line tool to check running daemons? |
| 00:57.25 | abrotman | !open ports |
| 00:57.29 | dpkg | i guess open ports is # netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or ask me about <open files> |
| 00:57.54 | tonybaloney86 | okay, the problem is still occurring, it looks like the computer is freezing in the middle of the mount and won't respond to anything |
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| 00:59.48 | crn | farous, ps -u root is useful |
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| 01:00.09 | abrotman | that may not get them all |
| 01:00.19 | farous | crn thanx |
| 01:00.21 | crn | abchirk, true |
| 01:00.44 | crn | abrotman, true |
| 01:00.44 | abrotman | !beer abchirk |
| 01:00.51 | abchirk | I love this day when people stopping using nicks with "ab" |
| 01:01.03 | abchirk | +wil |
| 01:01.05 | abchirk | l |
| 01:01.09 | abrotman | abchirk: hey .. i was here first! :) |
| 01:01.19 | abchirk | hm how long use this nick? :D |
| 01:01.30 | abrotman | abchirk: /msg nickserv info abrotman |
| 01:01.44 | abrotman | and that's only since i registered .. |
| 01:01.45 | abchirk | ok.. |
| 01:01.47 | crn | abchirk, sorry my friend. i just hit tab |
| 01:02.03 | abchirk | lol np crn :D |
| 01:02.12 | abchirk | i have same tabcompletion :D |
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| 01:03.13 | AbStevie-O | muhahaha |
| 01:03.23 | abrotman | doesn't bother me |
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| 01:03.33 | AbStevie-O | does it bother abchirk |
| 01:03.35 | AbStevie-O | ? |
| 01:03.35 | StyXman | hi all. I'm trying to fiddle with the initrd imge. as far as I know, it's a compressed filesystem image, so if I decompress it I should be able to mount it with the loop option, right? |
| 01:03.41 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: and it's not like the good clients will notice it either... |
| 01:03.55 | abrotman | noone ever notices :) |
| 01:04.03 | dondelelcaro | (the only questionable time is when everyone is active at the same time) |
| 01:04.21 | abrotman | yeah .. abauer used to get it a lot .. i haven't seen him around as much lately |
| 01:04.41 | dondelelcaro | !+seen abauer |
| 01:04.41 | dpkg | abauer <n=abauer@p5498DFEB.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 66d 14h 2m 15s ago, saying: 'the original package has a priority of 990 while mine only has a priority of 500'. |
| 01:05.12 | abrotman | he's been on FN though |
| 01:05.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: does !seen count FN and OFTC? |
| 01:05.42 | stew | !seen abrotman |
| 01:05.43 | dpkg | abrotman is currently on #debian (2h 4m 45s). Has said a total of 100 messages. Is idling for 21s, last said: 'dondelelcaro: does !seen count FN and OFTC?'. |
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| 01:05.43 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: in theory |
| 01:05.47 | stew | abrotman: 100! |
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| 01:05.54 | abrotman | it resets every day now |
| 01:06.03 | abrotman | or maybe every hour |
| 01:06.11 | stew | ahh |
| 01:06.14 | dondelelcaro | !+seen dondelelcaro |
| 01:06.14 | dpkg | dondelelcaro is currently on #debian #debian-ops #debian-bots. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '!+seen dondelelcaro'. |
| 01:06.22 | dondelelcaro | hrm... I think I need to "fix" that again |
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| 01:06.58 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: it's ok .. you can leave it broken . i don't need to be reminded :) |
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| 01:11.18 | kspath | !barbie |
| 01:11.19 | dpkg | Reading the manual is HARD! Let's go shopping. |
| 01:11.27 | itchi | hehe |
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| 01:15.52 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: reload |
| 01:15.53 | dpkg | reloading... |
| 01:15.53 | dpkg | reloaded: CommandStubs.pl |
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| 01:16.07 | dondelelcaro | !+seen abrotman |
| 01:16.07 | dpkg | abrotman is currently on #debian (2h 15m 9s). Has said a total of 103 messages. Is idling for 9m 8s, last said: 'dondelelcaro: it's ok .. you can leave it broken . i don't need to be reminded :)'. |
| 01:16.19 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 01:16.30 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 01:17.38 | dondelelcaro | hrm... anyway, it'll probably remember the right values eventually |
| 01:17.42 | evilbulgarian | what are some good security mailing lists? microsoft and linux/gnu? |
| 01:18.34 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: libapache-gallery-perl is hella slow on my nslu2 (266mhz) machine. i am thiinking of switching to lighttpd+album. testing all the options i need for now |
| 01:19.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: really? hrm... it should be slow to do the first resize, but after that it should be ok. |
| 01:20.10 | runnon | anyone knows why the apache2.conf format is very different fr the one provided as an example? can i use the example format? i find it more explicable. |
| 01:21.05 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. but each dir takes like few min to generate.. i am planning to use album to generate the gallery via nfs so i can utilize the desktop CPU |
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| 01:23.33 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: sure, but you generally only need to generate them once |
| 01:23.54 | runnon | no help on apache2 config? |
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| 01:24.41 | christor | runnon: what do you want to do? |
| 01:24.44 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: true... the first dude who visit will be piss though (= |
| 01:25.05 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i tried the --spider option in wget, didnt work for me.. what options should i use? -r --sider? |
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| 01:25.32 | runnon | christor: just to set up apache2.conf properly for a web server. |
| 01:26.01 | christor | the default file in /etc/apache2 is ok |
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| 01:26.40 | runnon | christor: it does not even have ServerName, DocumentRoot.. |
| 01:27.42 | runnon | and i think it is meant for virtual servers. i want to start off as a standalone server first. |
| 01:27.47 | christor | runnon: cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ; and cp 000-default test |
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| 01:28.46 | runnon | christor: those two r the files to set with proper values? |
| 01:28.57 | christor | vi test and remove Namevirtualhost... and ServerName your.dns.com and change DocumetnRoot |
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| 01:29.29 | christor | then restart apache2 |
| 01:30.14 | runnon | christor: there is an example in /usr/share/doc/apache2/example which is very different. can i use that format instead, i find it to be more explicable. |
| 01:30.54 | christor | mmh no |
| 01:30.59 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you need something like wget -nH -nd --follow-tags=img,a -r -l inf --delete-after foohost; |
| 01:31.41 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 01:32.23 | christor | runnon: in fact you can run in different way. But default on debian apache2.conf call the site-enabled folder and list the file to start the different conf |
| 01:32.48 | christor | however you can put all this file conf in the apache2.conf and start it |
| 01:32.57 | christor | beleive me the current conf is the more simple |
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| 01:34.10 | runnon | christor: i believe u. i will edit the two separate files u mentioned and try run apache2. thks. |
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| 01:34.38 | christor | runnon: create a file in the /etc/apache2/site-enabled/ folder |
| 01:35.19 | christor | runnon: wait I pastebin a conf but the site is slow |
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| 01:35.39 | runnon | christor: that would be nice. |
| 01:36.39 | christor | http://rafb.net/paste/results/9HXnrE85.html |
| 01:37.01 | christor | paste this in your new file and add your conf then restart apache2 |
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| 01:40.02 | abrotman | how do we know that was really lilo? |
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| 01:41.49 | runnon | christor: got that file. so now i create a file with this format say x, in the /etc/apache2/site-enabled folder. how to make apache.conf refer to this file? |
| 01:42.03 | christor | runnon: it s already done |
| 01:42.59 | Ryushin | Does anyone know how to turn on show hidden files when saving under firefox? The firefox irc channel on irc.mozilla.org doesn't seem to have a clue. |
| 01:43.03 | christor | you runnon you had a line in the apache2.conf Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#]* which laod all files present in the site-enabled folder |
| 01:43.23 | christor | runnon: what is the new nameserver you added |
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| 01:43.42 | runnon | christor: yeh, i notice that line before. |
| 01:44.26 | christor | runnon: is it working? |
| 01:44.29 | runnon | christor: i am using a name registered with no-ip.biz. |
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| 01:44.40 | christor | and is it working? |
| 01:44.55 | runnon | i am going to try it. will be afb for a while. |
| 01:45.11 | itchi | learn #debian-belgium blablabla as babelut babeltut |
| 01:45.21 | itchi | oeps |
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| 01:46.40 | wtfhappen | yo |
| 01:46.44 | dvs | nes |
| 01:46.48 | wtfhappen | whats the command to give a user |
| 01:46.50 | wtfhappen | rights.. |
| 01:46.56 | dvs | deluser ;-) |
| 01:46.58 | wtfhappen | nahh |
| 01:46.59 | wtfhappen | LOL |
| 01:47.02 | wtfhappen | i aint that dumb |
| 01:47.08 | abrotman | stop hitting enter |
| 01:47.09 | dvs | wtfhappen: how about sudo? |
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| 01:47.16 | wtfhappen | mm |
| 01:47.20 | wtfhappen | grr debian >< |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | you installed it |
| 01:47.32 | itchi | wtfhappen: Nice nick you got :-/ |
| 01:47.36 | wtfhappen | LOL |
| 01:47.37 | wtfhappen | :D |
| 01:47.38 | wtfhappen | ty |
| 01:47.39 | dvs | wtfhappen: what kind of rights are you looking for? |
| 01:47.43 | wtfhappen | mkdir |
| 01:47.45 | wtfhappen | and shit |
| 01:47.56 | abrotman | !tell wtfhappen about grounding |
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| 01:48.02 | wtfhappen | ty |
| 01:48.03 | dvs | wtfhappen: mkdir you can do using directory permissions and groups |
| 01:48.10 | abrotman | wtfhappen: read man pages |
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| 01:49.11 | abrotman | Pig: meet Piggy |
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| 01:49.17 | wtfhappen | i need to get lessons for 1 command to give a shell access to mkdir |
| 01:49.17 | wtfhappen | :\ |
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| 01:51.21 | jf3 | xen or vmware server for multiple lamp setups? |
| 01:51.21 | abrotman | vmware isn't in debian |
| 01:51.41 | foxkid | sorry, I tried solve my question with mysql people, but the error persists... then as i am running it in debian linux, let me try here =) |
| 01:51.56 | foxkid | The question is, when I change the root password in mySQL 5.0 |
| 01:52.07 | jf3 | abrotman: good point. but can't you install it on a debian install? |
| 01:52.11 | foxkid | the server shows a error message. like this: |
| 01:52.22 | foxkid | cat /usr/share/mysql/mysql_fix_privilege_tables.sql | /usr/bin/mysql |
| 01:52.22 | foxkid | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.24 | abrotman | jf3: no idea .. it's not in debian |
| 01:52.39 | jf3 | abrotman: gotcha. Have you used xen? |
| 01:52.44 | abrotman | nope :) |
| 01:52.51 | foxkid | anyone already passed by it? =) |
| 01:53.22 | jf3 | looks interesting, though :) |
| 01:53.32 | Piet | jf3: linux-vserver is least resource abusive. |
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| 01:55.04 | jf3 | Piet: thanks for the pointer. I'd never heard of linux-vserver |
| 01:55.19 | abrotman | foxkid: what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 01:56.54 | foxkid | abrotman: nothing.. just set a password for root user in the mysql server. |
| 01:57.06 | foxkid | with no pass it is working perfectly |
| 01:57.07 | abrotman | !forgot mysql root password |
| 01:57.07 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the mysql root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 01:57.10 | Piet | jf3: irc://irc.oftc.org/vserver |
| 01:57.30 | foxkid | no no no abrotman the question is not that... |
| 01:57.41 | foxkid | i can change the password. but when i change it... |
| 01:57.46 | foxkid | and try restart server |
| 01:57.54 | foxkid | it shows error messages |
| 01:57.55 | foxkid | like that |
| 01:58.20 | itchi | jf3: If you want to know, vmware run on Debian. Try some alternative ?? |
| 01:58.30 | tongueroo | my www-data user has /bin/sh its default shell, i want to change the umask to 007, but i know with a /bin/bash shell i can change the .profile, or .bash_profile file, but what do i do if the default shell is sh?? |
| 01:58.42 | itchi | jf3: I guess you have get the linux version of it |
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| 01:58.53 | nevyn | vmware server is free beer |
| 01:59.04 | nevyn | it's not free software tho. |
| 01:59.05 | foxkid | abrotman: the error is here http://hashmysql.org/2047 |
| 01:59.20 | jf3 | yeah I'd rather use something open. I was curious how xen compared with vmware server. |
| 01:59.42 | abrotman | i don't see an error |
| 01:59.57 | foxkid | "Got a failure from command:" |
| 02:00.05 | eps | jf3: what are you trying to emulate |
| 02:00.16 | abrotman | there's no error |
| 02:00.29 | jf3 | eps: multiple debian setups for testing different lamp configurations. |
| 02:00.38 | foxkid | is that common in mySQL 5.0? |
| 02:00.49 | abrotman | it says 4.1 |
| 02:01.03 | nevyn | jf3: xen |
| 02:01.09 | eps | jf3: under win or lin? |
| 02:01.15 | foxkid | but I am not working 4.1 |
| 02:01.21 | itchi | jf3: Or try also 'qemu' ;-) |
| 02:01.25 | jf3 | eps: linux |
| 02:01.28 | foxkid | should I ignore that? |
| 02:01.35 | eps | jf3: xen then |
| 02:01.37 | abrotman | mysql --version ? |
| 02:02.33 | foxkid | abrotman: 5.0.21 |
| 02:02.35 | abrotman | is looking at xen |
| 02:02.41 | abrotman | foxkid: eh .. ok |
| 02:03.11 | jf3 | yeah xen looks really cool. This linux-vserver looks interesting as well. Just reading up on it. |
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| 02:04.24 | itchi | jf3: It's the vmware gxs server you mean ? |
| 02:04.30 | foxkid | abrotman: then.. thank you =) |
| 02:04.47 | abrotman | foxkid: i still don't see a real error |
| 02:04.52 | jf3 | itchi: yeah, the one that's free as in beer, not as in speech ;) |
| 02:05.03 | foxkid | yes.. that is just for mysql 4.x |
| 02:05.07 | foxkid | as I am not running it |
| 02:05.13 | foxkid | that does not make sense for me =) |
| 02:05.18 | itchi | jf3: The player ?? |
| 02:05.24 | foxkid | you are right. |
| 02:05.31 | jf3 | itchi: no the server |
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| 02:05.46 | itchi | jf3: Is not free, lesser than beer :-/ |
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| 02:06.38 | runnon | christor: 2 errors when i run apache2. |
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| 02:06.44 | christor | runnon: explain |
| 02:07.30 | jf3 | itchi: it's free as in "fill out a short survey", but not really FREE: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ |
| 02:07.39 | Ignite | i've been thinking about installing debian but am unsure which way to go, which version should i install if i want an uptodate stable system? past experiences with debian have left me with a really outdated system |
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| 02:08.37 | itchi | jf3: hehe, he have change his spirit ?? But i look to xen :-p |
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| 02:09.11 | jf3 | itchi: yeah, xen is very nice :) |
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| 02:09.37 | itchi | jf3: I look also to ;-) |
| 02:10.13 | runnon | christor: it is in #flood |
| 02:10.32 | jf3 | thanks all for your helpful suggestions. :) |
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| 02:11.12 | Ignite | would the sarge repos have packages like gnome 2.14 and firefox 1.5.0.x or would i have to go for a more unstable release? |
| 02:12.07 | evilbulgarian | Ignite: check on packages.debian.org |
| 02:12.24 | Ignite | thanks |
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| 02:14.00 | abrotman | foxkid: got anything better to look at? |
| 02:14.29 | abrotman | Ignite: you can use sarge with backports.. or try your hand at etch .. but stuff in etch can still break |
| 02:14.33 | abrotman | sometimes badly |
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| 02:15.08 | Ignite | hrm |
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| 02:16.46 | runnon | christor: have u read the errors in #flood? |
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| 02:18.02 | christor | oops I go |
| 02:18.06 | christor | to see |
| 02:18.23 | christor | runnon: paste it |
| 02:19.03 | runnon | christor: hang on. |
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| 02:22.09 | runnon | christor: http://pastebin.ca/72701 |
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| 02:23.44 | abrotman | put the FQDN in your /etc/hosts |
| 02:24.10 | abrotman | the unable to open logs is more of a problem |
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| 02:24.24 | abrotman | and something else already listening on port 80 |
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| 02:25.50 | runnon | abrotman: thks, working on it. |
| 02:26.08 | abrotman | fuser -n tcp 80 |
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| 02:31.12 | runnon | i have to reset. bye. |
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| 02:42.28 | runnon | abrotman: putting the servername in /etc/hosts does not help. still having "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName". |
| 02:42.38 | abrotman | what did you put in there? |
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| 02:42.54 | runnon | the servername. |
| 02:42.55 | abrotman | should be like <ip> <FQDN> <shortname> |
| 02:43.29 | runnon | ok, let me double check. |
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| 02:45.14 | keyhack | What is the largest amount of RAM a 32bit debian server can have? |
| 02:45.24 | abrotman | x86? |
| 02:45.26 | keyhack | yeah |
| 02:45.30 | keyhack | I put 8gig in |
| 02:45.37 | abrotman | how much shows up? |
| 02:45.38 | keyhack | and top and /proc/meminfo shows 3.7 |
| 02:45.54 | abrotman | you have 4GB support .. if you want more .. you'll have to rebuild with 64GB support |
| 02:46.12 | keyhack | is that the LARGEMEM or whatever I was seeing around |
| 02:46.18 | abrotman | HIGHMEM |
| 02:46.21 | keyhack | yeah |
| 02:46.29 | keyhack | I would've thought Debian would support higher memory out of the box |
| 02:46.35 | keyhack | or at least have a kernel image to use |
| 02:46.39 | abrotman | 4GB is the most that most x86 servers have |
| 02:46.43 | keyhack | where I wouldn't want to rebuild my entire kernel from scratch lol |
| 02:47.13 | keyhack | is there a way to get the config the Debian images use, so I can import that in, and just add the HIGHMEM support? |
| 02:47.30 | sparr | where might i find a statically linked binary of 'strings' compiled for ARM? |
| 02:47.31 | stew | keyhack: its /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 02:47.38 | abrotman | keyhack: look in /boot/ |
| 02:47.56 | keyhack | alright, cool |
| 02:47.59 | keyhack | didn't know that |
| 02:48.05 | runnon | abrotman: checked ok. |
| 02:48.18 | stew | keyhack: keep in mind that it is a initrd kenrel, you'll have to either change the config to make your root mountable, or also build it as --initrd (/msg dpkg kp) |
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| 02:48.28 | enterusername | hiall |
| 02:48.41 | enterusername | im trying to use a debian vmware image and im trying to do my own custom kernel |
| 02:48.42 | keyhack | stew, hmm, really? |
| 02:48.52 | enterusername | it keeps saying cannot mount /dev/sda1 |
| 02:49.05 | enterusername | is there any howto on how to fix this im looking at how to make images and it talks about make-kpkg |
| 02:49.09 | enterusername | im guessing thats obselete? |
| 02:51.48 | enterusername | anyone? |
| 02:51.53 | christor | runnon: yop I m here too |
| 02:52.16 | runnon | christor: hi |
| 02:52.34 | runnon | let me recap what i have done. |
| 02:52.57 | stew | keyhack: yes |
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| 02:53.12 | abrotman | enterusername: tried #vmware? |
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| 02:54.02 | runnon | create the file in site-enable dir, replacing the settings with my values. i have set up the fqdn in /etc/hosts. |
| 02:54.47 | runnon | christor: what about /etc/resolve, should i add anything to it? |
| 02:54.58 | christor | no |
| 02:55.17 | christor | what is the error message when you start apache?? /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 02:55.23 | keyhack | stew, yeah.... no idea lol |
| 02:55.28 | runnon | when i run apache2 now, i am still having the errors i pasted. |
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| 02:56.05 | runnon | hangon, let me do that restart first. |
| 02:56.20 | christor | runnon: yes do it and give us the new error message |
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| 02:57.24 | runnon | christor: this is what i get. Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
| 02:57.25 | runnon | apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
| 02:57.27 | runnon | . |
| 02:57.54 | christor | yes but apache2 works |
| 02:58.10 | christor | it seems me that this error is just informationnal |
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| 02:59.30 | runnon | christor: i cannot access the server from online. |
| 02:59.52 | christor | runnon: what is the first line in your /etc/apache2/site-enabled/000-default ? |
| 03:00.06 | runnon | hangon |
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| 03:01.51 | runnon | christor: it is: NameVirtualHost * |
| 03:02.15 | xris | someone correct me if I'm wrong... installed debian unstable today.. sudo prompts for a password ONCE. never again. anyone know if this is an issue with unstable or if there's something missing in the config that I just don't see (since the default timeout is 5 minutes, not infinity) |
| 03:02.35 | christor | runnon: and the second line is <VirtualHost *>? |
| 03:02.58 | runnon | yeh |
| 03:03.20 | christor | and it worked before add the second file? |
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| 03:05.13 | christor | what is the servername you add in the file? |
| 03:06.59 | runnon | i haven't tried without the second file. i started off questioning default apache2.conf. then i add in the second file. the server name is 'wlwireless.no-ip.biz" |
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| 03:08.10 | christor | move it in other folder to do the test |
| 03:08.29 | christor | then restart apache . In order to check if this is this servername which block |
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| 03:10.07 | runnon | without the second file, the servername would not have been stated anywhere else besides /etc/hosts. why would u expect it to work? |
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| 03:11.06 | christor | this is to check if the prob is the new file or if this is in the apche2.conf |
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| 03:13.40 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i am gonna stick with libapache-gallery-perl because the bitch who wrote album has such an ego issue... fuck his license |
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| 03:14.50 | runnon | christor: i remove the second file and restart apache2 and it reports the same error. |
| 03:15.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh |
| 03:16.15 | runnon | i want to add the servername to the default file in sites-enable. do i just add the line" ServerName ***"? |
| 03:16.36 | dondelelcaro | runnon: it's just another configuration file, so go right ahead. |
| 03:17.04 | christor | runnon: yes |
| 03:17.37 | runnon | dondelelcaro: where to place add the line is important. should it be inside the <VirtualHost *>? |
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| 03:19.17 | Alam_Debian | I need help with MYSQL, I purged my datadate to start anew, but I can't add a user |
| 03:19.43 | dondelelcaro | runnon: if you want it to only affect that virtual host, yes. If not, no. |
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| 03:19.51 | christor | runnon: add ServerName localhost in your apache2.conf where you want |
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| 03:20.55 | astronaut | hi |
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| 03:21.35 | astronaut | where to find 32bit version of libz.so.1 please ? and any other libs too maybe ? |
| 03:21.48 | astronaut | i need it to run quake 4 |
| 03:24.06 | runnon | no good. got to read up on the doc. thks for all the help. |
| 03:25.08 | sparr | can fstab entries have auto/unspecified filesystem types? |
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| 03:28.09 | dondelelcaro | sparr: yes. see /floppy FE. |
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| 03:29.38 | astronaut | cat /proc/filesystems << there is no NTFS in there, is it still possible tou mount a NTFS drive ? |
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| 03:31.07 | astronaut | im on 2.6.15-1-amd64-generic |
| 03:31.48 | netdaemon | mount -t ntfs /dev/hd** /mnt |
| 03:32.01 | netdaemon | as far as i know, that should work |
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| 03:32.51 | Serial | hi |
| 03:33.08 | Serial | ;P |
| 03:34.35 | astronaut | netdaemon: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc |
| 03:35.00 | netdaemon | hm... |
| 03:35.09 | astronaut | mount /dev/hdc /mnt/titan/ -t ntfs -r |
| 03:38.36 | astronaut | ok my fault |
| 03:38.42 | astronaut | forgot hdc1 =) |
| 03:38.43 | sparr | dondelelcaro: /floppy? |
| 03:39.15 | astronaut | any ideas on where to find some 32 bit libraries plz ? |
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| 03:40.43 | astronaut | ok and if I want to mount a RAID 0 ntfs file, actually i have an error =) |
| 03:40.47 | astronaut | IDE is fine |
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| 03:41.34 | astronaut | fdisk -l >> Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 03:41.48 | astronaut | is that normal ? |
| 03:42.13 | Zerial | usb memory .. damaged? |
| 03:42.26 | Zerial | bad partition table, try format this |
| 03:42.27 | netdaemon | sda1 |
| 03:42.40 | netdaemon | eh..nm |
| 03:42.44 | astronaut | =) |
| 03:42.44 | sparr | some OSes *cough*windows*cough* will read flash storage without a partition table |
| 03:42.51 | sparr | they just treat the entire device as a single partition |
| 03:43.00 | Zerial | device exists, but partition table is bad .. |
| 03:43.14 | sparr | so some storage manufacturers ship them that way |
| 03:43.14 | astronaut | fdisk -l returns that |
| 03:43.35 | sparr | no harm in making a partition table and putting in one partition, only cost you a few kb |
| 03:43.37 | astronaut | Zerial: its two raptor HDs in RAID 0 |
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| 03:43.43 | astronaut | they are on win XP |
| 03:43.46 | netdaemon | i'v had no problem with my little sandisk |
| 03:43.48 | astronaut | working fine |
| 03:44.20 | astronaut | but my debian cant recognize it correctly dunno why |
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| 03:44.48 | astronaut | Disk /dev/sda: 37.0 GB, 37019566080 bytes |
| 03:44.48 | astronaut | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4500 cylinders |
| 03:44.48 | astronaut | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
| 03:44.48 | astronaut | Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 03:44.57 | astronaut | sry |
| 03:45.05 | sussudio_ | !sry |
| 03:45.05 | dpkg | it has been said that sry is Sorry, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRY |
| 03:45.33 | astronaut | sdb is fine |
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| 03:46.26 | astronaut | but cant mount sdb =) not sdb1 |
| 03:46.35 | astronaut | i think i need sda recognized |
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| 03:54.56 | Eclipser | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:56.00 | netdaemon | Eclipser: i get the same with debian etch-amd64 sometimes =) |
| 03:56.13 | netdaemon | they are making good headway though... |
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| 03:56.58 | astronaute | netdaemon: do you know where to find 32bit libs plz ? =) |
| 03:56.59 | Eclipser | only bad thing about this is that I can't read the daily comics now that X won't start |
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| 03:57.16 | netdaemon | astronaute: no clue...i run pure 64 |
| 03:57.19 | netdaemon | lol |
| 03:57.27 | astronaute | me too but for q4 need 32 versions =) |
| 03:57.37 | astronaute | dunno how to do that via apt-get |
| 03:58.01 | astronaute | maybe just dl lib but where |
| 03:58.01 | netdaemon | you could install a minimal debian in a chrooted 32bit environment |
| 03:58.08 | netdaemon | there are howtoos on the net for that |
| 03:58.10 | astronaute | is there any place where we can dl libs ? |
| 03:58.24 | astronaute | no i just need 32 bit versions of some libs |
| 03:58.34 | netdaemon | i dunno =\ |
| 03:59.10 | astronaute | im noob on linuw so i dont want to lose all =) |
| 03:59.26 | netdaemon | i'm n00b to debian amd-64, so we sorta in the same place, lol |
| 04:00.30 | astronaute | ^ |
| 04:00.35 | astronaute | ^^ |
| 04:01.04 | netdaemon | perhaps someone in #debian-amd64 can help |
| 04:02.27 | astronaute | i try |
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| 04:04.19 | astronaute | netdaemon: guess what |
| 04:04.20 | astronaute | http://fatooh.org/q4howto/ |
| 04:04.22 | astronaute | =)))) |
| 04:04.36 | netdaemon | sweetness |
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| 04:05.21 | sparr | am i crazy or are there no debian packages for creating/modifying yaffs devices/images? |
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| 04:10.35 | jetscreamer | shhh |
| 04:14.14 | jetscreamer | everybody stfu |
| 04:14.22 | jetscreamer | !stfu |
| 04:14.22 | dpkg | it has been said that stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 04:14.28 | jetscreamer | well the bot works |
| 04:14.31 | netdaemon | you're one powerful fellow jetscreamer |
| 04:14.37 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 04:14.39 | netdaemon | people listen to you, lol |
| 04:14.49 | jetscreamer | i'm a legend in my own mind |
| 04:15.08 | wireddd | !smite exim |
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| 04:15.16 | netdaemon | haha |
| 04:16.45 | wireddd | whoever did this initial install of debian on my vps is an idiot, they configured it as an open relay |
| 04:16.57 | zamolxes | debian can be an open relay? |
| 04:17.02 | sparr | anyone here know how to make a yaffs, jffs, or jffs2 filesystem on a sd card? |
| 04:18.15 | netdaemon | yay..irssi is aptituding |
| 04:18.52 | jetscreamer | if you tell it to it can be |
| 04:18.59 | jetscreamer | but you have to tell it |
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| 04:19.48 | astronaute | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b <hat that means please ? |
| 04:19.54 | astronaute | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b what that means please ? |
| 04:20.19 | astronaute | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>> 4.0.0) grep-dctrl |
| 04:20.26 | astronaute | last line not first |
| 04:20.28 | astronaute | =) |
| 04:20.59 | jetscreamer | i think it means you need either a more up2date debhelper or grep-dctrl |
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| 04:21.07 | wireddd | zamolxes, they setup the mail server as an open relay |
| 04:21.07 | jetscreamer | or both |
| 04:21.23 | astronaute | hum |
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| 04:22.43 | jetscreamer | !tell Thunderguy -about root |
| 04:23.30 | astronaute | jetscreamer: apt-get upgrade is done 0 upgraded |
| 04:23.33 | astronaute | normal ? |
| 04:23.46 | syberdave | i have a RAID question: i want to make a raid-1 array with a pre-existing drive with data on it. would mkraid wipe my data? |
| 04:24.13 | jetscreamer | astronaute: if it's sid yeah, the files haven't made it yet or somehting |
| 04:24.24 | astronaute | etch :/ |
| 04:24.28 | jetscreamer | shouldn't be 'as' usual for etch, but i'm not sure |
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| 04:24.35 | astronaute | oh well i dont have debhelper at all |
| 04:24.37 | astronaute | =) |
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| 04:24.42 | jetscreamer | then install it |
| 04:24.46 | astronaute | yep |
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| 04:26.15 | astronaute | is it safe to run this : great |
| 04:26.25 | astronaute | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b |
| 04:26.36 | astronaute | in root |
| 04:27.01 | astronaute | readme says $ but it cant create a file |
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| 04:27.31 | astronaute | well i try =) |
| 04:28.03 | jetscreamer | beats me |
| 04:28.06 | astronaute | ok no disaster |
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| 04:28.48 | jetscreamer | Thunderguy: should work now |
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| 04:29.07 | Thunderguy | Ok, I'm not root anymore, problem is, I just installed debian, and I told it to do shadow passwords, and I specified a root password, and I got neither, it's using, /etc/passwd and I had no root password, and I'm wondering what might cause that. |
| 04:29.49 | Thunderguy | Just to make sure, I do it right next time |
| 04:30.52 | Thunderguy | I did close the installer prematurally, but this was after I had everything set up, I just used ctrl-alt-del instead of closing it the normal way. |
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| 04:31.17 | jetscreamer | that 'could' be why but i dunno |
| 04:31.33 | Thunderguy | well I guess I'll try again then. |
| 04:31.43 | jetscreamer | Thunderguy: you mih.... |
| 04:31.52 | linuxmonkey | hey guys were can I find the servers for the sources.list the one I got right now are too slow |
| 04:31.53 | jetscreamer | mig.... |
| 04:31.59 | jetscreamer | !apt-spy |
| 04:32.00 | dpkg | well, apt-spy is a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 04:33.13 | jetscreamer | back it up before running it should be appended |
| 04:33.25 | falkon | nope |
| 04:33.31 | linuxmonkey | thanks jetscreamer |
| 04:33.33 | falkon | it gets rewritten :\ |
| 04:33.51 | jetscreamer | dpkg, apt-spy is also back up your current sources.list before running it |
| 04:33.51 | dpkg | jetscreamer: that's too long |
| 04:34.00 | jetscreamer | dpkg, apt-spy is also back up your current sources.list first |
| 04:34.00 | dpkg | jetscreamer: that's too long |
| 04:34.03 | jetscreamer | lies |
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| 04:35.09 | netdaemon | mmm the beauty of apt |
| 04:37.55 | jetscreamer | !info kde-base |
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| 04:39.34 | roby | There is no amd64 netinst for etch? |
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| 04:40.04 | netdaemon | roby: check the mirror for the iso's its on there |
| 04:40.08 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 04:40.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 04:40.13 | netdaemon | they don't list it on that page for some reason... |
| 04:40.16 | netdaemon | and it hasn't been updated since march |
| 04:40.39 | roby | netdaemon: thanks |
| 04:40.42 | jetscreamer | oops that's sarge |
| 04:40.56 | jetscreamer | i'd better kill myself i made an error |
| 04:41.06 | roby | hehe |
| 04:42.36 | netdaemon | i was gonna get a new image and saw it hadn't been updated since then =\ |
| 04:42.37 | netdaemon | oh well |
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| 04:45.48 | netdaemon | !info xserver-xorg-input-waycom |
| 04:45.55 | netdaemon | !info xserver-xorg-input-wacom |
| 04:46.02 | dpkg | xserver-xorg-input-wacom: (X.Org X server -- wacom input driver), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.4.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 04:48.26 | sparr | What is the fstab equivalent of mount -S (sloppy)? I am mounting with autofs type, but need to specify some fs-specific options. |
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| 04:57.11 | pbryan | Anyone know the status of Python in sid? Seems broken. |
| 04:57.12 | EruditeHermit | hey, can anyone help me with getting preload to uninstall/install? I get the error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) when trying to install/uninstall it |
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| 04:57.21 | GecKo` | Is there a way off the netinst cd I can get it to use a different kernel image off the bat? |
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| 05:06.22 | Piet | sparr: mount while mounting a msdos filesystem |
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| 05:15.19 | EruditeHermit | r |
| 05:15.38 | rebooted | bonjour ! |
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| 05:15.44 | superlinux | hi all |
| 05:15.57 | farous | any one running 2.6.17-1 kernel from unstable? |
| 05:16.12 | rebooted | yes |
| 05:16.44 | farous | rebooted: i tried modprobe cpufreq_userspace but it did not work am i missing something |
| 05:16.45 | superlinux | I have some processes stuck. and even if reboot they don't go away |
| 05:16.56 | superlinux | how can I get rid of them? |
| 05:17.12 | EruditeHermit | r |
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| 05:18.13 | farous | rebooted: the module is there and it is loaded but all of a sudden i got a message that my cpu do not support freq scaling although i know it do. |
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| 05:27.28 | rebooted | there are two option in the kernel |
| 05:30.09 | rebooted | farous: I have also a laptop, and by default the core does not have the good option of not activated |
| 05:30.51 | netdaemon | suppose i should get linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 05:30.59 | netdaemon | instead of using this here generic one |
| 05:31.06 | farous | rebooted: so does that mean i have to compile or install an alternative package. heating is not that bad though. |
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| 05:31.39 | farous | i have the 2.6.17-1-k7 package installed |
| 05:32.44 | netdaemon | hm |
| 05:32.50 | netdaemon | have to install emacs later |
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| 05:32.59 | netdaemon | also |
| 05:32.59 | netdaemon | emacs21 that is |
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| 05:37.18 | jcan_ras | ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmidc.sh file, where and how should i put it in? |
| 05:38.20 | jcan_ras | ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmidc.sh file, where and how should i put it in? |
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| 05:40.08 | k-man | your trying to call that script from your script? |
| 05:40.50 | k-man | do you want to continue executing bootmidc.sh after it runs wireless.sh? |
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| 05:41.21 | jcan_ras | k-man: yes i am |
| 05:41.52 | jcan_ras | k-man: well i was told it runs @ startup |
| 05:41.53 | k-man | jcan_ras, you can go "call /home/ras/wireless.sh" |
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| 05:43.51 | k-man | that will run wireless.sh, and return control to bootmidc.sh after it finishes |
| 05:44.32 | jcan_ras | k-man: so yur saying just paste "call /home/ras/wireless.sh" in the file and it will execute it when bootmisc runs? |
| 05:44.43 | k-man | it should |
| 05:44.49 | k-man | no quotes obviously |
| 05:44.54 | jcan_ras | ok tanx |
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| 05:49.41 | Thunderguy | Cool, this stuff works now, but I have one more question now that I'm started off.. I'm using debian-testing netinstall cd, and I noticed it used the internet connection in the installer, I was wondering, if it didn't detect an internet connection, would it still be needed to install the base system? |
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| 05:52.58 | xwind_ | When u ping a domain name which dns will it use to resolve the IP? I am getting different IPs when pinging from my home computer and from the ssh console at my virtual private server. |
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| 05:53.12 | itchi | hehe, i have recompile qemu and kqemu on my Etch :-p |
| 05:53.54 | itchi | I took me 3 hours to find an get kqemu working btw :-/ But it's working now :-) |
| 05:53.56 | zicothec | problem wen installing sarage on sata disk |
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| 05:54.18 | itchi | zicothec: Tell ... |
| 05:55.50 | xwind_ | at the vps ssh console, the IP being returned is an old ip that was assigned by my host and which was later changed. |
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| 05:56.40 | xwind_ | can't figure out which dns server is still keeping that old ip. |
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| 05:57.16 | zicothec | installing sarge on sata disk |
| 05:57.21 | zicothec | pl reply |
| 05:57.41 | itchi | !tell zicothec -about ask |
| 05:58.00 | xwind_ | zicothec, u can't install or u have installed and it won't boot. |
| 05:58.29 | nimak | xwind_, use dig |
| 05:58.43 | xwind_ | will look, tnx. |
| 05:58.44 | itchi | zicothec: Please, if you want that we give the minimum of support, tell a bit what's going. People here have a bit lesser power that god :-/ |
| 05:59.03 | Thunderguy | Hey so, on the netinstall cd, do I need internet to get the base installation installed? or if I didn't have an internet when installing it, would it still try to use it? |
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| 05:59.16 | itchi | apt-get install crystallbal |
| 05:59.55 | itchi | crystallbal --try_to_find_the_magical_answer |
| 06:00.16 | itchi | not found |
| 06:00.19 | itchi | :-( |
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| 06:01.14 | itchi | zicothec: Have you try with 'expert' and 'linux26' ?? |
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| 06:01.40 | gozz | does anyone here have a mac? |
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| 06:03.23 | gozz | i have an old power pc and i want to install linux i was just wondering if it will work if i use a pc to burn the image? |
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| 06:03.25 | itchi | zicothec: Are you been here ? |
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| 06:07.58 | itchi | zicothec: What's you're native languae ? Dutch / French / Bruxellois ?? <- I can |
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| 06:08.23 | itchi | sad make my crazy :-/ |
| 06:09.11 | itchi | Gnarls Barkley - crazy <- crazy track :-) |
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| 06:10.17 | xwind_ | nimak: dig showed the correct ip and dns BUT ping gives a different IP to what dig is showing. |
| 06:10.33 | gozz | debian will run on a power mac correct? |
| 06:10.41 | zamolxes | gozz: it should |
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| 06:11.38 | itchi | zicothec: Take '/msg dpkg beer' and come back here :-p |
| 06:11.44 | gozz | is it ok to burn with k3b on a pc? will the mac boot it? |
| 06:12.05 | itchi | gozz: Why not ?? |
| 06:12.06 | xwind_ | gozz: if u get the one for the mac. As to your previous question, the cdrom is an iso9660 format which the mac should be able to read. |
| 06:12.45 | oskie | hm, i have a little problem: ldd refuses to look for libs in /usr/local/lib.. any idea why? |
| 06:12.55 | gozz | ok thanks |
| 06:13.33 | xwind_ | so nimak, do u know what option should i use in dig for it to spit out all possible nameservers of a domain name? |
| 06:13.34 | oskie | ah..ldconfig was needed |
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| 06:14.05 | stew | xwind_: dig domainname ns |
| 06:14.14 | nimak | xwind_, let me check |
| 06:14.29 | xwind_ | thanks. will try. |
| 06:15.12 | nimak | yeah, thats it |
| 06:15.45 | xwind_ | this is "conpuzzling"? |
| 06:16.07 | nimak | xwind_, whats your domain name?] |
| 06:16.13 | xwind_ | nipahut.org |
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| 06:16.21 | xwind_ | try it. |
| 06:18.10 | nimak | hmm, multiple servers |
| 06:18.12 | xwind_ | did u get 65.98.42.234 |
| 06:18.19 | nimak | i think |
| 06:18.23 | mha13 | i got a bug in googleearth that involeved glibc where do i post a bug googleearth or glibc |
| 06:18.33 | xwind_ | ok, which server ips did u find? |
| 06:18.40 | nimak | xwind_, thats the ip |
| 06:19.10 | xwind_ | thing is, when i ping from my vps shell, it gives me a different one. |
| 06:19.11 | nimak | server2.netonemedia.com and server1045.servers101.com |
| 06:19.32 | xwind_ | aaah the first one is a bit unexpected. |
| 06:20.17 | zicothec | I have a problem with sarge installer ; I'm try to install Debian kernel 2.6 . I get the following output "error detecting drives." |
| 06:20.19 | xwind_ | no it's ok. |
| 06:20.27 | nimak | both are the same ip address |
| 06:21.21 | xwind_ | yes, that is fine. here is what is puzzling me ... |
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| 06:22.07 | xwind_ | at the vps, i get 66.253.16.137 |
| 06:22.12 | itchi | zicothec: In another VT while the install runs, look to 'dmesg' to see what he tell |
| 06:22.32 | nimak | can you do dig from the vps? |
| 06:22.40 | xwind_ | yes, i can. |
| 06:22.57 | itchi | zicothec: Finnaly have you try that 'expert' mode ipv of 'linux26' ? |
| 06:23.07 | xwind_ | let me try "dig nipahut.org ns" |
| 06:23.29 | itchi | ipv == In plaats van (Dutch straaange languaaagggeee) |
| 06:24.16 | xwind_ | nimak: i get a different set of nameservers: ns1/ns2.leeware.com |
| 06:24.38 | nimak | ok, thats probably the problem :-P |
| 06:24.51 | nimak | itchi, i just installed qemu, and im playing with it |
| 06:24.56 | nimak | lots of fun :-) |
| 06:24.57 | xwind_ | but that is ok coz an hour ago, i did a change of dns. |
| 06:25.00 | itchi | nimak: :-p |
| 06:25.18 | itchi | nimak: You are going to be crazy :-) gggrrr ;-) It's to good :-) |
| 06:25.25 | nimak | xwind_, dns takes a while to propagate, wait at least 2 days |
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| 06:26.19 | nimak | i want to run MAME inside of debian inside of Openbsd inside of Windows inside of Debian |
| 06:26.23 | nimak | or something like that |
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| 06:26.33 | nimak | get a really long string of emulators going |
| 06:26.37 | aryal | anyone know of what if anything is going on with packaging for cl-ucw (?) |
| 06:26.48 | itchi | nimak: Probably you need to recompile it from source. Like in that deb there is no kqemu (<- acceleration support, licencing restriction...). |
| 06:26.51 | xwind_ | yes, i do agree. but my issue is that if u do an nslookup using ns1/ns2.leeware.com the ip that it will give u is not the same as the ip when u ping the domain. |
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| 06:27.49 | itchi | nimak: Without that kqemu it's abit to slow if find. Now it runnnnnnssss :-) |
| 06:28.06 | itchi | hoela :-/ |
| 06:29.52 | xwind_ | nimak: at the vps shell and for the domain nipahut.org, nslookup gives me 66.90.121.137 while a ping will give 66.253.16.137. |
| 06:30.02 | xwind_ | can somebody explain that? |
| 06:30.29 | nimak | i have no idea |
| 06:30.33 | xwind_ | i though it was a dns cache so i apt-get remove bind at the vps. |
| 06:31.52 | xwind_ | i read before that this thing could occur if previous dns's have not released the old ip in their configs. I should email my provider on this. |
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| 06:32.57 | xwind_ | thanks for the chat anyway. got to go now. |
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| 06:35.59 | nimak | can qemu do networking? |
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| 06:37.22 | itchi | nimak: Why not ?? You have installed that deb version ?? put '--user-net' or somethings similar |
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| 06:38.01 | itchi | nimak: BTW, in an newer version ^^ no more needed |
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| 06:41.51 | nimak | itchi, so i just follow 2.1 here? http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html |
| 06:42.15 | itchi | nimak: Yes ;-) |
| 06:42.57 | nimak | thanks |
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| 06:45.02 | fdsd | hey guys, How do I disable stderr in the console? Its spitting tons of junk at me while I am working |
| 06:45.05 | fdsd | any idea? |
| 06:46.36 | itchi | fdsd: Look to /etc/syslog.conf |
| 06:46.59 | itchi | fdsd: Probably it sdterr to * consoles |
| 06:47.00 | fdsd | itchi, is there a terminal command I can type to just temporarly disable it? |
| 06:47.13 | itchi | fdsd: I not know |
| 06:47.18 | fdsd | itchi, I like it other wise |
| 06:47.26 | fdsd | I just need to disable it for like 20 min |
| 06:47.27 | fdsd | lol |
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| 06:48.45 | itchi | fdsd: cp /etc/syslog.conf /etc/syslog.conf_ORG; $EDITOR /etc/syslog.conf; #change what you need; cp /etc/syslog.conf_ORG /etc/syslog.conf; done |
| 06:49.24 | fdsd | itchi, im on a bootable livecd, I cant modify it |
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| 06:49.53 | itchi | fdsd: I'm not experienced with it, but i think yes |
| 06:50.15 | itchi | fdsd: That file system are mounted elsewhere in any cases |
| 06:50.18 | formorer | echo 0> /proc/sys/kernel/printk |
| 06:50.30 | fdsd | itchi, ok |
| 06:50.32 | itchi | forcemaster: hhmm |
| 06:50.33 | fdsd | formorer, thanks! |
| 06:50.34 | itchi | oeps |
| 06:50.43 | formorer | this should give some silence :) |
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| 06:51.47 | Shadowcat | someone try dccing me something |
| 06:51.50 | nimak | itchi, if i don' |
| 06:51.54 | nimak | oops |
| 06:52.01 | Shadowcat | gotta see if it's anything on my end :/ |
| 06:52.03 | nimak | if i dont get any error, it means it worked |
| 06:52.04 | itchi | nimak: :-p |
| 06:52.13 | nimak | ? |
| 06:52.21 | itchi | nimak: Bwa, yes :-) |
| 06:52.31 | nimak | ok, i think it worked :-) |
| 06:52.37 | nimak | wow |
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| 06:52.47 | itchi | hehe |
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| 06:54.32 | itchi | nimak: The importantest is that the kqemu (acceleration part thing) are also available and running. Otherwise it's a bit to slow :-( |
| 06:55.05 | nimak | itchi, do i have to run qemu as root now? |
| 06:55.17 | fdsd | does debian have a ppc livecd? |
| 06:55.20 | itchi | nimak: No, that's verry insecure :-/ |
| 06:55.27 | nimak | i got "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" |
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| 06:55.37 | nimak | but i have /dev/kqemu |
| 06:55.49 | streuner | fdsd: no, but ask in #debianppc too |
| 06:56.11 | itchi | nimak: modprobe kqemu |
| 06:56.44 | nimak | i still get the error |
| 06:57.23 | itchi | nimak: The device /dev/kqemu are not created then. 'modprobe kqemu' work ? |
| 06:57.41 | nimak | running as root doesnt give me the error... |
| 06:57.59 | nimak | cat: /dev/kqemu: Permission denied |
| 06:58.34 | itchi | nimak: I think you have forget an step to do, moment |
| 06:58.39 | nimak | ok |
| 06:59.17 | itchi | nimak: As root 'mknod /dev/kqemu c 250 0' then 'chmod 666 /dev/kqemu' |
| 06:59.39 | Shadowcat | you know it still amazes me that when you answer "nope" to the "anyone here" question |
| 06:59.43 | Shadowcat | most people leave |
| 06:59.55 | Shadowcat | I mean obviously SOMEONE has to be there to answer you |
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| 07:00.49 | streuner | hm |
| 07:00.55 | nimak | thanks, itchi, it works now :-) |
| 07:01.12 | itchi | nimak: Whitout kqemu blablabla errno ? |
| 07:01.17 | nimak | yeah |
| 07:01.23 | itchi | nimak: GOOD ;-) |
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| 07:01.42 | nimak | and its fast :-D |
| 07:01.46 | itchi | nimak: Otherwise it's to slow an people complain/leave qemu |
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| 07:02.37 | itchi | vmware > /dev/null :-) |
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| 07:06.32 | nimak | i think i might actually use this, rather than just play with it |
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| 07:07.30 | nimak | some company really should step up and sponsor kqemu |
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| 07:07.58 | nimak | red hat should do it |
| 07:07.59 | k31th | yo guys best way of migrating users from box to box ? just copy shadow passwd and group ? |
| 07:07.59 | JamesWC | Hello |
| 07:08.05 | JamesWC | Does anyone have iTunes???? |
| 07:08.09 | k31th | well the relevent entrys from each ? |
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| 07:08.51 | itchi | nimak: In my country (Belgium), the governement have desided yesterday to use open documets and no more fucking *.doc. Is all a begin ... The first land to do it :-) |
| 07:09.10 | k31th | wahoo |
| 07:09.26 | nimak | itchi, some state in the US did that too |
| 07:09.37 | nimak | i read an article complaining about it :-) |
| 07:09.43 | itchi | nimak: :-) :-) :-) |
| 07:10.09 | itchi | nimak: It's planned for 2008. But im patient :-) |
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| 07:10.34 | Tallu | itchi: sounds good :) |
| 07:10.36 | itchi | nimak: There is an article about it on slashdot |
| 07:10.38 | Eclipser | doc format is terrible anyway :p |
| 07:10.55 | predder | how do I view the status of my network devices (see if they're up and IP if possible)? |
| 07:10.56 | robert__ | some problem with the security.debian.org. the package file reports for me that there is a kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686_2.6.8-16sarge3_i386.deb but I apt-get finds only an sarge2. |
| 07:10.59 | itchi | It's fucking closed crap yes |
| 07:11.08 | robert__ | but on a system I did already the update to sarge3 |
| 07:11.14 | robert__ | is that package brocken? |
| 07:11.19 | Eclipser | "closed" isn't really an issue, it's just terrible crap |
| 07:11.23 | nimak | the article i read said people /chose/ word because its faster, and everyone knows that XML reads slowly from the hard drive |
| 07:11.25 | Eclipser | which is the main issue |
| 07:11.34 | Tallu | predder: ifconfig |
| 07:11.52 | sep | robert__, did you aptitude update ? do you have security in the sources.list ? |
| 07:11.58 | robert__ | yes |
| 07:12.06 | nimak | people are willing to pay 500 dollars so that their files take 5 seconds less to read, because they lack compression |
| 07:12.12 | robert__ | Err http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 2.6.8-16sarge3 |
| 07:12.12 | nimak | :-) |
| 07:12.12 | robert__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.38 | robert__ | http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.8-i386/ |
| 07:12.45 | robert__ | if I look there I also can't find it anymore |
| 07:12.58 | itchi | robert__: There is an space to many ^^ ?? |
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| 07:13.06 | robert__ | but on an other server 1h ago I did the update |
| 07:13.22 | robert__ | deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main non-free contrib |
| 07:13.28 | itchi | coffe time :-) |
| 07:13.29 | robert__ | which space is there toomuch? |
| 07:13.37 | Eclipser | there was an article about "microsoft winning desktop war" on the inquirer where some MS boss claimed that linux is a lost case on desktop, I kind of agree but then again, so is windows |
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| 07:15.08 | sep | robert__, are you sure the other server didnt use a smp kernel ? |
| 07:15.10 | robert__ | itchi: I looked at the server with the browser the file is really missing. but apt-cache show tells me that it should be there |
| 07:15.32 | robert__ | yes |
| 07:15.33 | robert__ | Setting up kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 (2.6.8-16sarge3) ... |
| 07:16.12 | robert__ | but that was 1h ago. is it possible that the file was removed on the server? as I didn't an security alert mail either |
| 07:16.22 | itchi | robert__: I not know :-/ I need to tell that i have not already try the sarge3. Oh, in an hour or two i try it in qemu :-) |
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| 07:16.55 | robert__ | itchi: but its not there anymore: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.8-i386/ |
| 07:16.55 | itchi | robert__: I first need to get it ;-) |
| 07:16.58 | sep | i do see it tho. http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.8-i386/kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686_2.6.8-16sarge3_i386.deb |
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| 07:17.42 | itchi | robert__: It's looks like |
| 07:17.44 | robert__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.52 | robert__ | Filename: pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.8-i386/kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686_2.6.8-16sarge3_i386.deb |
| 07:18.15 | itchi | robert__: If you 'apt-get update', i guess he is gone ... |
| 07:18.44 | robert__ | no I get only hits and no get |
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| 07:19.16 | robert__ | but I can install it by hand. and will to so now |
| 07:19.18 | sep | robert__, what does aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686 do ? |
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| 07:19.41 | robert__ | sep: that works |
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| 07:20.05 | sep | update wont install anything, and upgrade dont uipgrade kernels automaticaly (afaik) you should install kenel using the line i posted |
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| 07:21.29 | robert__ | I did apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 in the first place. but if it works with aptitude its ok with me |
| 07:21.31 | robert__ | thx |
| 07:21.38 | nimak | itchi, should i make the computer name the same as the host computer? |
| 07:21.58 | itchi | nimak: hehe, it's best not man ;-) |
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| 07:22.43 | nimak | oops :-) |
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| 07:27.31 | predder | thanks Tallu :) |
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| 07:28.45 | itchi | !bee Tallu |
| 07:28.48 | itchi | !beer Tallu |
| 07:28.51 | itchi | yeah |
| 07:29.15 | itchi | Or prefer you champagne for the occassion ? |
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| 07:32.06 | itchi | next distro install in qemu :-) |
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| 07:35.51 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 07:35.52 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:36.58 | itchi | Yeah, popcorn and a movie :-p |
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| 07:38.08 | mst | is there a standard of naming CPAN module .deb packages? |
| 07:38.24 | azeem | mst: yes |
| 07:38.35 | mst | azeem, could you please point me to it? |
| 07:39.06 | RvGaTe | goood morning |
| 07:39.11 | itchi | Have you already look to the debconf movies ? |
| 07:39.20 | azeem | mst: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/, section 4.2 |
| 07:39.20 | itchi | RvGaTe: Hello |
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| 07:39.27 | mst | azeem, thanks a lot |
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| 07:39.50 | streuner | fuck, there is a bug in flux |
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| 07:40.08 | itchi | streuner: In Etch ? |
| 07:40.13 | streuner | sid |
| 07:40.33 | itchi | streuner: I'm not so far :-/ |
| 07:40.57 | itchi | streuner: I set it up here in qemu :-) |
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| 07:41.22 | RvGaTe | itchi, i finaly installed etch yesterday (again), and upgraded to sid... now i sure hope those damn nvidia drivers, wine, and counterstrike source works :P |
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| 07:41.46 | itchi | RvGaTe: I not know about counterstrike :-/ |
| 07:41.55 | RvGaTe | else i need to find another distro i think (for a workstation) |
| 07:42.17 | itchi | RvGaTe: Yeah, if if if use Etch ? Really great |
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| 07:42.34 | RvGaTe | i tried doing it in etch |
| 07:42.40 | itchi | RvGaTe: And ? |
| 07:42.56 | RvGaTe | itchi: etch has no nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-kernel-source |
| 07:43.18 | itchi | RvGaTe: It's borked at this moment i think :-( |
| 07:43.38 | RvGaTe | itchi, instead i used the nvidia installer, just to see how it went... |
| 07:44.04 | RvGaTe | itchi, and it went bad :P really really bad... completely made my xserver crash and not being able to startup again |
| 07:44.39 | itchi | RvGaTe: Make copy of config files. That help to come quick back, after messed some things up |
| 07:45.10 | RvGaTe | itchi, thx for the hint :P |
| 07:45.24 | itchi | RvGaTe: :-p |
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| 07:46.00 | RvGaTe | itchi, im trying tonight again in sid... |
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| 07:46.12 | RvGaTe | itchi, right now im just chatting at work |
| 07:46.13 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 07:46.33 | itchi | RvGaTe: @ work, hehe |
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| 07:47.03 | Thunderguy | Hey where do I look to edit configuration? I'm used to Gentoo's format so excuse me, I want to change what manager to use.. such as flwm |
| 07:47.22 | tengulre | HI,all |
| 07:47.52 | itchi | Thunderguy: Try 'dpkg -L <pkg>' to see where he store his stuff |
| 07:48.07 | tengulre | dpkg -L |
| 07:48.15 | tengulre | dpkg -L samba |
| 07:48.15 | dpkg | ii samba 1.5-12 tengulre's private gamp collection |
| 07:48.32 | itchi | oeps it in lower 'l' |
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| 07:48.46 | asd26 | How do i add package sources to debain? |
| 07:49.01 | azeem | asd26: synaptic has a menu for that |
| 07:49.02 | itchi | asd26: Some debs you have downloaded ? |
| 07:49.09 | azeem | otherwise, edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 07:49.31 | asd26 | i have no downloaded anything yet |
| 07:50.11 | itchi | gggrr it's been 'dpkg -L python2.4', like i have told |
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| 07:50.51 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:52.48 | RvGaTe | itchi, you at work to ? |
| 07:52.56 | itchi | asd26: What mean you exactly ? I have not been understand ^ Is it solved ? |
| 07:53.04 | RvGaTe | itchi, i mean "work" (you dont really have to work with linux :P) |
| 07:53.08 | itchi | RvGaTe: I need one, yes :-/ |
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| 07:53.15 | RvGaTe | itchi, hmm |
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| 07:53.27 | RvGaTe | itchi, sell data-servers... big buisness |
| 07:53.35 | asd26 | malformed line..lol |
| 07:53.55 | itchi | RvGaTe: I'm an stupid nerd :-/ without money :-/ |
| 07:54.04 | RvGaTe | itchi, stupid nerd? |
| 07:54.05 | Arbiter | o_0 |
| 07:54.14 | itchi | RvGaTe: A mega bit yea :-p |
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| 07:54.30 | RvGaTe | itchi, normally nerds are smarter then avarage lowlife |
| 07:54.35 | RvGaTe | ;) |
| 07:54.36 | itchi | RvGaTe: Like i have no work at this moment |
| 07:54.45 | ditto | i did an apt-get update, with etch on sources.list |
| 07:54.47 | asd26 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ can i add that to sources? |
| 07:54.57 | RvGaTe | asd26, no |
| 07:55.03 | ditto | but no new kernel image showed up. |
| 07:55.22 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 07:55.29 | ktwilight | average people aren't lowlife..... |
| 07:55.42 | asd26 | how do i do it |
| 07:55.53 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, sorry if i offended peopl |
| 07:56.00 | ktwilight | asd26, just add the line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:56.10 | ktwilight | asd26, make sure you follow the syntax, etc. |
| 07:56.23 | ktwilight | it's ok RvGaTe :) |
| 07:56.34 | RvGaTe | itchi, what im trying to say is, you can easily get a job as a nerd... as long as its not a representative job... |
| 07:57.16 | ktwilight | asd26, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-sources.list :) |
| 07:57.22 | itchi | RvGaTe: What mean you with representative ? |
| 07:57.45 | itchi | RvGaTe: representate with an smooking ? |
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| 07:57.50 | ktwilight | no....... |
| 07:58.19 | RvGaTe | itchi, like when you need to talk to customers and need to have a good look and smooth talking |
| 07:58.39 | ktwilight | :( |
| 07:59.02 | itchi | RvGaTe: I have an nice face, guy, people have fun with my face :-) |
| 07:59.13 | itchi | RvGaTe: :-) |
| 07:59.18 | RvGaTe | itchi, doesn automaticly mean its nice :P |
| 07:59.26 | itchi | RvGaTe: One like my you not see many time :-) |
| 07:59.27 | ktwilight | haha |
| 08:00.09 | RvGaTe | itchi, just look in the papers, look for an IT related job... all the nerds go there :) |
| 08:00.12 | insmod | itchi: gay people have fun with your face ? lol |
| 08:00.30 | itchi | insmod: I'm not gay :-) |
| 08:00.41 | Shadowcat | sigh |
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| 08:00.56 | itchi | gay (in french) yes, i'm nice, or i hope it :-) |
| 08:01.03 | RvGaTe | anyways, lets get back on topic |
| 08:01.12 | itchi | Not look to typo ^^ |
| 08:01.21 | itchi | RvGaTe: Yeah ;-) |
| 08:01.22 | RvGaTe | ?? any debian questions out there that need to be answered ?? |
| 08:01.24 | asd26 | how confusing |
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| 08:01.42 | asd26 | deb http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ |
| 08:01.43 | insmod | itchi: that was the english def -- happy ---- gay is now slang |
| 08:01.55 | itchi | insmod: gay gay gay :-p |
| 08:02.04 | ktwilight | RvGaTe, too bad with the growing population of IT users, it can be difficult to find jobs... |
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| 08:02.23 | ktwilight | asd26, you must add "main contrib non-free" at the end of the sentence too |
| 08:02.26 | ktwilight | without "" of course |
| 08:02.28 | asd26 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/perl/libjavascript-perl all i need is to install this app |
| 08:02.30 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, true... true... |
| 08:02.34 | insmod | itchi: yes merry and gay |
| 08:03.01 | ktwilight | asd26, which branch are you using? |
| 08:03.10 | RvGaTe | asd26, could you pastebin your current sources.list ? |
| 08:03.40 | itchi | insmod: Gai is it in French :-) |
| 08:03.49 | insmod | itchi: :) |
| 08:03.50 | RvGaTe | asd26, answering my question will automaticly answer ktwilight's |
| 08:03.59 | asd26 | lol it failed |
| 08:04.30 | itchi | asd26: Running unstable ? |
| 08:04.35 | RvGaTe | asd26, http://www.pastebin.com/ , open up your sources.list, and paste it in there... then give us the url |
| 08:04.45 | insmod | itchi: where is scratchy? |
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| 08:05.02 | itchi | insmod: He is running on #debian-belgium :-) |
| 08:05.08 | itchi | insmod: Realy |
| 08:05.14 | insmod | :) |
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| 08:05.46 | itchi | insmod: I have just try to join the bot here but he ban it :-/ Like it's an baot |
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| 08:05.56 | asd26 | http://pastebin.com/732713 |
| 08:07.11 | asd26 | paste bin is not working |
| 08:07.27 | RvGaTe | asd26, if not, try www.pastebin.ca |
| 08:07.27 | asd26 | deb http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ main contrib non-free |
| 08:07.27 | asd26 | deb-src http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ main contrib non-free |
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| 08:08.08 | insmod | RvGaTe: hmm .ca looks nicer |
| 08:08.42 | itchi | insmod: There are many many others ;-) |
| 08:08.58 | ktwilight | asd26, that's just wrong url, come to think of it. |
| 08:09.10 | ktwilight | asd26, first you must find the closest mirror from where you are. |
| 08:09.11 | insmod | itchi: i know! |
| 08:09.44 | insmod | itchi: but i am canadian :) -- so it looks better :) |
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| 08:09.48 | asd26 | dam mythtv |
| 08:09.56 | ktwilight | asd26, http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full <- choose a mirror |
| 08:10.04 | asd26 | tv_grab_au is broken, i need to install this app |
| 08:10.05 | itchi | insmod: Alors tu peut me comprendre :-) |
| 08:10.43 | quitte | asd26: #mythtv-de is very helpful |
| 08:10.50 | itchi | asd26: Sarge ? |
| 08:10.59 | insmod | itchi: i got nothing there |
| 08:11.20 | itchi | insmod: You not speak french ? |
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| 08:11.31 | ktwilight | asd26, i would put deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free into sources.list :) |
| 08:12.04 | quitte | argh au is australia? what is austria? |
| 08:12.08 | itchi | insmod: Or is it only in Quebec that he speak french ? |
| 08:12.19 | insmod | itchi: the wife does she is from quebec -- i always joke and where my speek english or die shit -- she hates that:) |
| 08:12.51 | insmod | itchi: all canada -- but i am not so good |
| 08:13.18 | itchi | insmod: Im to, but i like communications, look to my typo. :-) |
| 08:15.00 | asd26 | australia |
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| 08:16.12 | YogSothoth | hi! |
| 08:16.14 | sscanf | Java is locking /dev/dsp so that none of the other apps can have sound |
| 08:16.21 | YogSothoth | how can I rename the host i'm on? |
| 08:16.42 | sscanf | /etc/hostname? |
| 08:16.54 | sep | YogSothoth, edit /etc/hostsname, /etc/hosts and /etc/mailname and reboot. |
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| 08:17.20 | insmod | sscanf: java? -- or something else |
| 08:17.23 | asd26 | i'm so dam confused |
| 08:17.28 | sscanf | can I configure Blackdown Java to use a mixer? |
| 08:17.36 | sscanf | insmod: yes java |
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| 08:17.53 | insmod | sscanf: how so |
| 08:17.53 | YogSothoth | thanks sep & sscanf! |
| 08:18.17 | sscanf | java app that uses sound is running |
| 08:18.26 | insmod | yes |
| 08:18.29 | sscanf | I don't want to shut it down |
| 08:18.36 | insmod | yes |
| 08:18.43 | nimak | in qemu, the emulated hostname should be differant from the host computers? |
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| 08:19.03 | sscanf | but it locks /dev/dsp so I can't use any other sound apps |
| 08:19.07 | sscanf | so annoying |
| 08:19.27 | asd26 | ttp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libj/libjavascript-perl/libjavascript-perl_0.52-4_i386.deb |
| 08:19.31 | nimak | sscanf, yeah, i hate that |
| 08:19.33 | asd26 | tryin gto add that mirror |
| 08:19.40 | insmod | ah -- you need a sound manager |
| 08:19.48 | asd26 | it fails since it's not structured correctly |
| 08:19.49 | sscanf | running KDE |
| 08:19.58 | sscanf | that already has one |
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| 08:20.15 | insmod | that would be the prob |
| 08:20.34 | insmod | killall -9 artsd then try |
| 08:20.55 | sscanf | some way to configure Blackdown to use artsd instead of alsa? |
| 08:21.09 | insmod | sscanf: i never use kde -- the wife likes it :) |
| 08:21.33 | sscanf | insmod: :P |
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| 08:22.28 | insmod | sscanf: just shut off artsd and run esd or something |
| 08:22.48 | tengulre11 | HI,all |
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| 08:24.20 | sscanf | Configuring a mixer is worse for ESD than ARTSD |
| 08:24.25 | tengulre11 | anybody know which website can exchange software project? |
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| 08:25.12 | insmod | sscanf: then just run pure alsa it can do it |
| 08:25.36 | sscanf | Guess so... |
| 08:26.13 | insmod | sscanf: can your card do full duplex? |
| 08:26.51 | sscanf | Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 09) |
| 08:27.01 | sscanf | searching |
| 08:27.10 | insmod | sscanf: no idea can it |
| 08:27.16 | sscanf | searching |
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| 08:28.57 | sscanf | insmod: it seems so |
| 08:29.11 | insmod | sscanf: thre you go |
| 08:29.17 | insmod | there |
| 08:29.22 | sscanf | hows that? |
| 08:29.48 | insmod | killall -9 artsd then try |
| 08:32.02 | Edward_TLS | hi |
| 08:32.16 | RvGaTe | hello |
| 08:32.23 | Edward_TLS | I get lots of "TCP: drop open request from x.x.x.x/x" in my logfiles... |
| 08:32.31 | Edward_TLS | on a verry bussy webserver.... |
| 08:32.36 | Edward_TLS | how can I fix this.... ? |
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| 08:33.58 | pitillo | Edward_TLS, take a look to your iptables rules... you are logging some actions. |
| 08:34.12 | Edward_TLS | nope... not at all... |
| 08:34.18 | Edward_TLS | pitillo, not at all.... |
| 08:34.58 | fireba11 | Edward_TLS sounds like too many concurrent connections to me |
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| 08:35.44 | Edward_TLS | fireba11, well... how can I determen the max.... ? it's a webserver with a high loud... |
| 08:36.22 | fourat | alsa wont let application get concurrent access to sound, how to resolve it ? |
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| 08:36.56 | ktwilight | fourat, you mean more than one media players using the sound system? |
| 08:37.00 | pc22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.05 | ktwilight | deb > rpm |
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| 08:38.12 | fourat | ktwilight, for example, when playing mp3 with amarok, skype dont make any sound, neither xmms... |
| 08:38.33 | ktwilight | thought so. |
| 08:39.04 | ktwilight | xmms uses alsa? or gstreamer, oss? |
| 08:39.08 | fluxdude | does anybody here know where I can find out how to jumper an atx power supply to work without a motherboard? |
| 08:39.46 | insmod | ktwilight: plugin based |
| 08:39.57 | ktwilight | oh really... |
| 08:40.10 | insmod | ktwilight: ya |
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| 08:40.19 | ktwilight | i dunno then. it's either ya hvae to configure xmms/skype to use alsa. or your desktop manager. |
| 08:40.34 | ktwilight | 'cuz it doesn't sound like ya need a sound wrapper. |
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| 08:41.12 | insmod | ktwilight: why you talking to -- i have no prob |
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| 08:41.30 | nimak | !start a wm war |
| 08:41.30 | dpkg | enlightenment sucks! |
| 08:41.40 | nimak | oops, too late |
| 08:41.44 | nimak | forgot to scroll down |
| 08:42.05 | ktwilight | insmod, i was talkin' to fourat :/ |
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| 08:42.48 | nimak | fluxdude, green wire to grey |
| 08:42.48 | Symmetria | lo all |
| 08:42.56 | insmod | dpkg: yup console windowmaker and blackbox rule xfce is ok too |
| 08:42.56 | dpkg | insmod: that's too long |
| 08:42.59 | fourat | ktwilight, no i dont think so, other applications will work one by one, but not all together |
| 08:43.08 | Symmetria | can someone do me a favour and test debian.mirror.ac.za for me |
| 08:43.16 | Symmetria | before I apply to become official mirror I wanna know that it works |
| 08:43.22 | Symmetria | and Im being told that the packages are all corrupted |
| 08:43.35 | Symmetria | and it doesnt make sense :( |
| 08:43.35 | nimak | one of them is the 3rd from the end, and the other is on the other side, 4th from the other end, fluxdude |
| 08:43.42 | Symmetria | because I've rsynched that server *TWICE* now |
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| 08:44.17 | narinux | I need mount a image fake in mdf |
| 08:44.18 | ktwilight | fourat, no clue then. :/ for me, i just had to install alsa sound wrappers for anything, and make sure the DE is using alsa. then it all worked. except flash, but that was solved with mod_pcm_oss? or somehting like that. |
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| 08:46.16 | dgtlmoon | greets |
| 08:47.22 | nix | i'm migrating an ext3 fs to XFS and just found out that quotas are handled internally for XFS, so the quota.user file isn't being used. any ideas on how to convert or reapply the quotas to the XFS fs?:) |
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| 08:59.24 | dgtlmoon | is Etch current "testing" ? |
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| 08:59.38 | dgtlmoon | is Etch current "testing" ? |
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| 09:00.19 | epsilon | yes |
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| 09:01.50 | esben | What special steps do I need to take after installing a new kernel (2.6.17 in this case) to make it boot using LVM as root? Currently, it is unable to find the volume group, probably because LVM isn't started yet. |
| 09:02.09 | esben | I tried to recreate initrd with update-initrd*, but no luck |
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| 09:02.49 | itchi | dgtlmoon: look to the release on the website |
| 09:02.53 | itchi | !release |
| 09:02.53 | dpkg | Sarge has been released (2005-06-06). Sarge is Debian 3.1, and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian> or <woody->sarge>. |
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| 09:04.57 | petemc | esben: you'll need a working initrd, thats the main thing |
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| 09:05.14 | k31th | Does every user you add have to have its own group ? |
| 09:05.19 | esben | petemc: Any hints to creating such? |
| 09:06.00 | petemc | esben: i dont have any to hand, no. theres not much to it tho |
| 09:06.53 | esben | petemc: This is what I tried: sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.17-1-686 -v |
| 09:07.03 | esben | and obvious errors? There was no overt errors |
| 09:07.17 | esben | *error messages, even |
| 09:07.47 | esben | Gah, I meant "any obvious errors? There was no error messages as far as I could see" |
| 09:07.54 | petemc | that looks ok... |
| 09:08.50 | esben | Hmm... I have a suspicion |
| 09:09.15 | Thunderguy | links2 is an awesome web-browser O_O |
| 09:10.04 | dub | is there a bt client that sucks less that bittornado? |
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| 09:10.40 | ktwilight | rtorrent :) |
| 09:10.52 | dub | I could crap out a better network application |
| 09:11.27 | Thunderguy | So I have a global Xsession right? what file would I go to to modify which window manager I'm using? |
| 09:11.29 | rob | crap one out so the rest of us can use it :) |
| 09:11.36 | Thunderguy | that is, with the startx script |
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| 09:13.50 | esben | Be right back after this reboot :o) |
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| 09:22.07 | k31th | Guys iv added a bunch of users by hand in passwd and shadow and the group files |
| 09:22.13 | k31th | however the suer wont login |
| 09:22.24 | k31th | i dont need to restart any serices do i? |
| 09:22.29 | k31th | services* |
| 09:22.56 | ktwilight | no you don't |
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| 09:23.14 | ktwilight | you manually added users and pass in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow?! |
| 09:24.47 | Symmetria | why the hell would you manually add users like that |
| 09:25.10 | ktwilight | it's easier maybe? |
| 09:25.11 | ktwilight | hmm... |
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| 09:27.00 | petemc | try running pwconv |
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| 09:27.34 | petemc | manually adding users certainly wouldnt be considered "easier" |
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| 09:28.24 | ktwilight | adduser seems easy.... |
| 09:28.28 | petemc | it is |
| 09:28.32 | N00B | lol |
| 09:29.57 | ktwilight | but useradd is difficult :/ |
| 09:30.41 | k31th | no |
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| 09:30.53 | k31th | i have a bunch of users im moving from a diff box thats why |
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| 09:31.14 | k31th | petemc: how does pwconv work ? |
| 09:31.19 | petemc | man pwconv |
| 09:34.26 | k31th | petemc: i ran that still dont work |
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| 09:39.43 | AMB | i'm using debian unstable. where do i set the default window manager for the startx - thing? |
| 09:39.59 | azeem | AMB: user-wide in your ~/.xsession |
| 09:40.13 | azeem | AMB: system wide via update-alternatives --config x-window-manager I think |
| 09:40.25 | Symmetria | hrmmm |
| 09:40.26 | Symmetria | dammit |
| 09:40.35 | Symmetria | people telling me they cant apt-get from debian.mirror.ac.za |
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| 09:40.38 | Symmetria | and I dont understand why not :( |
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| 09:41.33 | AMB | azeem, thx. let's see if it works |
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| 09:47.18 | k-man_ | my usb card reader isn't being detected properly, it says usb 1-1.2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice |
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| 09:47.23 | k-man_ | any idea how to solve that? |
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| 09:48.44 | AMB | azeem, x-window-manager points to kwin, i got no ~/.xsessionrc and still xfce starts up instead of kde... what do i do now? |
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| 09:49.27 | azeem | AMB: maybe ~/.xinit? |
| 09:50.02 | azeem | AMB: also check x-session-manager |
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| 09:52.25 | scanf | insmod: things are working fine now, with artsd running |
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| 09:52.36 | k31th | can some one tell me why this passwd entry will login testuser:x:5091:5091::/home/testuser:/sbin/nologin |
| 09:52.51 | k31th | |Sorry that one "wont login" |
| 09:53.01 | k31th | but this one will |
| 09:53.04 | k31th | testuser:x:5091:5091:/home/testuser:/sbin/nologin |
| 09:53.37 | sscanf | insmod: I can runn arts sounds, mplayer, java web start and realplayer all simultaneously now |
| 09:53.51 | sscanf | I set up a basic alsa mixer |
| 09:54.20 | sscanf | installed alsa-oss and the snd-pcm-oss modules |
| 09:54.25 | AMB | k31th, because the first one has an extra ":"? :) |
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| 09:55.05 | k31th | AMB: yeah wondering why tho ? |
| 09:55.05 | sscanf | set artsd to use OSS instead of ALSA, start hardcoded OSS apps like realplayer with "aoss" |
| 09:55.29 | sscanf | insmod: and wolla! |
| 09:55.30 | k31th | AMB: as all the users im moving from a redhat box have an extra : |
| 09:55.32 | k31th | ? |
| 09:56.36 | Si_tech | i have accidentally deleted debian-sys-main@localhost from the mysql users. I cannot create user debian-sys-maint using "GRANT ALL ON ..." command. |
| 09:56.50 | Si_tech | Can someone please help? |
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| 09:59.05 | AMB | k31th, it's in the code :) |
| 09:59.32 | AMB | i don't know. azeem, thx for help. that should be it. cu all |
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| 10:01.31 | WillieDaPimp | where is xorg.conf located in debian? |
| 10:02.02 | k-man_ | my usb card reader is being found but its not being put in a /dev/sd device |
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| 10:02.54 | infernix | Wille88: /etc/X11/ |
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| 10:06.09 | bonghlls | . |
| 10:06.35 | k31th | if i want to scp dirs keeping perms its "scp -pr /blah/blah keith@blah.com:/home/blah/ |
| 10:06.37 | Eclipser | bonghlls, fck off |
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| 10:07.07 | Quiznos | wow, no mercy? :) |
| 10:07.10 | Quiznos | heh |
| 10:07.16 | azeem | it's a GNAA troll |
| 10:07.19 | Quiznos | ah |
| 10:07.27 | Quiznos | does he know that? |
| 10:07.30 | Quiznos | heh |
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| 10:09.36 | Thunderguy | isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16 |
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| 10:09.48 | Thunderguy | Anyone have an idea of what that mount error might be telling me about my DVD? |
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| 10:10.03 | Quiznos | dvd unreadble? |
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| 10:11.03 | Thunderguy | Quiznos: Yeah, I burned it in Nero at someones house, I had nero check it and it said 100% |
| 10:11.10 | Quiznos | pff |
| 10:11.15 | Thunderguy | so I know nero burned it right, or so it's checking utility states |
| 10:11.25 | Quiznos | Nero did not fiddle as Rome burned lololo bhabhahahaha |
| 10:11.25 | Thunderguy | but Linux refuses to mount it |
| 10:11.44 | Thunderguy | Nero is pretty much the best Windows has to offer though you have to admit |
| 10:11.48 | Quiznos | i know |
| 10:11.53 | Thunderguy | or at least OEM |
| 10:11.56 | Quiznos | i wouldnt mount a nero-dvd |
| 10:11.59 | Quiznos | :> |
| 10:12.05 | Quiznos | <snicker> |
| 10:12.12 | Thunderguy | I have a problem in K3B now, when I try to remaster a Nero CD it messes up the file system |
| 10:12.36 | Thunderguy | Hey I just got Debian testing installed :) |
| 10:12.57 | lilo | btw, it's summer in the northern hemisphere |
| 10:13.00 | Thunderguy | got it all the way up to XFCE4 with Audacious media player, Links2 browser, rox-file manager and abiword :D |
| 10:13.01 | lilo | trolling season |
| 10:13.21 | Thunderguy | lilo: You mean when the kids are off of school? |
| 10:13.21 | Quiznos | where? who? |
| 10:13.39 | djfhbvsa | lilo: actually, the summer solstice was just a few days ago |
| 10:13.46 | lilo | yep |
| 10:13.54 | lilo | Thunderguy: pretty much |
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| 10:14.06 | Thunderguy | djfhbvsa: I'd say summer began MONTHS ago, with the 100 degree temperatures Georgia, US has been having |
| 10:14.15 | lilo | the point is that we're in the middle of the season |
| 10:14.31 | lilo | that's why the exploit on freenode, and that's really kicked in the trolls |
| 10:14.32 | djfhbvsa | Thunderguy, lilo: precisely |
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| 10:15.43 | Rebecca | lol. damn trolls |
| 10:15.50 | Thunderguy | lilo: I was a troll once, a long time ago, they are the suxor, seems no matter what you do you can't get rid of them =/ |
| 10:16.09 | lilo | Thunderguy: we'll keep working on it |
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| 10:16.11 | Rebecca | lilo: did you find out who did it? |
| 10:16.23 | Quiznos | Rebecca do you have a website that has some irc content on it? |
| 10:16.24 | lilo | Rebecca: not so far, we have some directions, and we know things we need to do |
| 10:16.48 | Rebecca | Quiznos: nope |
| 10:16.50 | Quiznos | oh |
| 10:16.55 | lilo | Rebecca: but realistically, there's a good question how much we'll find out |
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| 10:17.10 | Quiznos | a few years ago, some woman came online and left and quoted me on her webpage |
| 10:17.14 | Rebecca | lilo: well, good to see you're back in control. i was worried for a bit. hehe |
| 10:17.17 | Quiznos | apparently, i cant recall her nick |
| 10:17.49 | Rebecca | Quiznos: ive never had a webpage.. the closest i get is a photobucket thing.. web design isnt my thing :) |
| 10:18.05 | Quiznos | text is Godly |
| 10:18.15 | Rebecca | hehe, ok |
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| 10:18.45 | Thunderguy | Debian is my new favorite distro, it was gentoo before, but now I used debian and it was much easier to put together with all the benefits |
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| 10:19.27 | infernix | i am having a hard time recreating a partition to be the exact same size on another disk. |
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| 10:19.47 | Thunderguy | infernix: What application are you using? |
| 10:19.48 | Rebecca | infernix: what have you tried? |
| 10:19.52 | infernix | i've used ddrescue to read the data off a broken HD. the partition is 20009776 blocks according to fdisk -l, on the original disk |
| 10:20.06 | infernix | but in no way can I get that exact block count on a new partition on this 200GB hd |
| 10:20.32 | infernix | tried cfdisk, fdisk, parted, but none let me specify 1k blocks. and even if i math it to kb or mb, it's not accurate. any other idead? |
| 10:20.51 | Quiznos | infernix hold a sec... |
| 10:21.17 | infernix | it came from a 2001 20GB harddisk, and i dont have any old disks that size around |
| 10:22.05 | infernix | so a dd if=savedpartition of=/dev/hdcX where hdcX is bigger will always result in problems since any disk check will report that the partition is larger than the data part - which is exactly what i want to avoid |
| 10:22.10 | infernix | its confusing really |
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| 10:24.12 | GecKo` | where abouts is libpcap on sarge? :S |
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| 10:25.14 | pitillo | GecKo`, apt-cache search libpcap |
| 10:25.21 | nuke | i have 2 comp with same hardware...sound is working on one, not the other...can i copy cofig files from one to another to make it work? |
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| 10:26.10 | GecKo` | pitillo: Na, I mean physically where would it be? I'm trying to ./config a prog and it can't find it |
| 10:26.12 | GecKo` | I've definately got it installede |
| 10:26.20 | GecKo` | (libpcap0.7 is installed..) |
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| 10:26.44 | infernix | dpkg -L [package] |
| 10:26.44 | dpkg | No packages found matching [package] |
| 10:26.55 | infernix | GecKo`: heh. well you get the idea |
| 10:27.08 | GecKo` | infernix: chur :> |
| 10:27.32 | pitillo | GecKo`, and what about running ldconfig before configure? |
| 10:28.02 | GecKo` | pitillo: Still no go.. I can give the location manually now, cheers |
| 10:28.09 | Thunderguy | dpkg -L x-window-system |
| 10:28.10 | dpkg | ii x-window-system 2.9-5 thunderguy's private porn collection |
| 10:28.25 | Thunderguy | My porn collection huh? |
| 10:28.31 | pitillo | xD |
| 10:28.44 | Thunderguy | Is that a $nick variable or really me? |
| 10:28.54 | Quiznos | infernix b00? |
| 10:29.11 | sgiratch | hurr |
| 10:29.19 | infernix | Quiznos: hm? |
| 10:29.50 | Quiznos | infernix google +mkpart, hit the anchor to gnu.org, should be #2 and read the rest of the links |
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| 10:30.14 | infernix | i tried mkpart with +[amount]kB |
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| 10:30.28 | infernix | it wasnt exact. and putting an = in front doesnt work for kB. |
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| 10:31.37 | Quiznos | infernix no `b' |
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| 10:31.45 | Quiznos | +25k |
| 10:31.48 | Quiznos | or m or g |
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| 10:32.18 | infernix | ah. |
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| 10:33.02 | Quiznos | infernix i saw a pkg that had separate tools for messin with partitions. the name escapes me atm |
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| 10:33.32 | GecKo` | hrm |
| 10:33.41 | GecKo` | pitillo: could it be that it's listed as /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.8.3 |
| 10:33.44 | GecKo` | shouldn't it have a more generic name? |
| 10:33.54 | anabain | how can I rebuild a kernel if I have installed a debian kernel image? |
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| 10:34.08 | anabain | I want to recompile to get low latency |
| 10:34.12 | Quiznos | kernels are not really distribution dependent |
| 10:34.13 | nuke | u have to download the source and build it |
| 10:34.24 | GecKo` | pitillo: ldconfig doesn't output anything either.. |
| 10:35.08 | anabain | nuke, but what source? That from the debian repositories, or from kernel.org? |
| 10:36.16 | nuke | both should be the same i guess, you have to apply your patches/modification to them anyway |
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| 10:37.49 | anabain | ok, nuke. Tha fact is that debian source says that it includes debian patches, I'll try this first |
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| 10:39.03 | anabain | nuke, the prob is that there are linux-source-2.6.17 and linux-tree-2.6.17 |
| 10:39.13 | anabain | which should I install? |
| 10:39.39 | nuke | you better ask someone else about the particulars :p |
| 10:39.42 | incorrect | im trying to build an initrd image that doesn't auto detect my hardware |
| 10:40.12 | itchi | anabain: Look to the package description ;-) The diff are noted there |
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| 10:40.16 | pitillo | GecKo`, did you try to see the configure options? may be you can specify the libpcap location there |
| 10:40.24 | incorrect | is yarid better for making initrd images? |
| 10:40.40 | itchi | anabain: apt-cache show <pkg> |
| 10:40.48 | nuke | iran alsaconf to times and it didnt work...but it ran on the 11th time :s ...weird |
| 10:41.03 | anabain | yes, itchi I've looked that |
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| 10:41.54 | itchi | You can have so many kernels as you want on you're system. I scroll a bit back ^^ |
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| 10:42.52 | itchi | !kp |
| 10:42.52 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 10:43.06 | itchi | anabain: Look to ^^ |
| 10:43.31 | anabain | thanks |
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| 10:43.43 | Gast | huhu zusamm |
| 10:44.13 | anabain | !kp mantra |
| 10:44.13 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
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| 10:46.20 | itchi | anabain: You got many mantra :-p |
| 10:46.36 | k-man_ | for some reason fdisk reports my cf card as being 8 meg when its in fact a 64 meg card |
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| 10:46.58 | k-man_ | why would that be? |
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| 10:47.57 | anabain | what does mean "vanilla" kernel? |
| 10:48.24 | petemc | from kernel.org, no extra patches |
| 10:48.47 | petemc | !vanilla |
| 10:48.47 | dpkg | it has been said that vanilla is plain | original | canonical | unmodified | ordinary | standard | default |
| 10:49.09 | anabain | ok |
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| 10:57.33 | nuke | whats the difference between nfs-kernel-server and user-nfs-server? |
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| 11:00.27 | schemebow | nuke: the first probably runs in kernel space, and some limits differ IIRC. |
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| 11:00.44 | Akiyuki | haha |
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| 11:01.41 | Zerial | the NFS-kernel-server package difference of the NFS-user-server package in which in the first case servant NFS uses support compiled in the kernel whereas the second implements everything in user space |
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| 11:03.20 | Opportunist | hello |
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| 11:05.07 | Zerial | nuke, you must configure your kernel with "CONFIG_NFSD =y" and "CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y" to use kernel-server package |
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| 11:09.35 | nuke | hmm...i apt-got everything so ill assume that i can aptget the nsf pkgs also |
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| 11:10.46 | nuke | and how can i change the default font being used on my comp/browser? |
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| 11:11.09 | tuxipuxi | hi there, i'm running debian on a server with the kernel images: ii kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 2.6.8-16sarge1 ii kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp 2.6.8-16sarge2. on debian security announce i have seen that 2.6.8 is vunerable so i would like to update my kernel. is it as simple as apt-get install ii kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp ii kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 or is there anything else i have to take care of? usually i'd jus |
| 11:11.09 | tuxipuxi | t try it but i don't want to screw this machine because i don't have physical access to it |
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| 11:11.52 | nuke | you just have to aptget the corrent kernel |
| 11:12.18 | tuxipuxi | is that the -smp kernel only? |
| 11:12.40 | nuke | depends if you have a smp processor |
| 11:12.51 | nuke | if it isnt smp now, dont choose smp |
| 11:12.52 | tuxipuxi | yes, xeon dual core (uname -a says 2.6.8-3-686-smp #1 SMP) |
| 11:13.05 | nuke | then choose smp |
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| 11:13.25 | tuxipuxi | so apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp && shutdown -r now and i should be fine? |
| 11:13.36 | nuke | the latest kernel is 2.6.17 |
| 11:14.02 | nuke | you already have the 2.6.8-3 right? |
| 11:14.24 | tuxipuxi | yes.. actually i just need the security fixes, so 2.6.8 would be fine for me |
| 11:15.10 | nuke | yout uname -a says you alreayd have 2.6.8-3 so why are you trying to install the same verison again if im no wrong? |
| 11:15.54 | tuxipuxi | sorry, my bad.. the security announcement says that the fixed version is named 2.6.8-16sarge3 |
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| 11:16.38 | locomia | Hi all! |
| 11:16.46 | nuke | k |
| 11:17.01 | nuke | hi lo |
| 11:17.08 | tuxipuxi | hi locomia |
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| 11:17.16 | tuxipuxi | nuke: ok i'll try to install it, thanks |
| 11:17.37 | locomia | Does anyone know if Debian can be installed on a Zip 100mb disk ? |
| 11:18.00 | blondie | maybe, but it sounds rather painful |
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| 11:18.15 | locomia | yeah, it sounds |
| 11:18.25 | nuke | the net install can fi i think |
| 11:18.27 | Eulex | locomia, 100mb is probably a little too small... if you don't choose to get an older version |
| 11:18.29 | nuke | the businesss card version |
| 11:18.53 | Eulex | nuke, well, the installer will fit, but not what it installs :) |
| 11:18.59 | locomia | It's just for a router soft |
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| 11:19.15 | Chingon | Hi, does anyone know where applications are stored in kde debian? |
| 11:19.17 | locomia | there's no much space for that |
| 11:19.24 | locomia | just iptables and so |
| 11:19.30 | Chingon | or what the default text editor is? |
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| 11:19.50 | locomia | Chingon: Kedit is one of them |
| 11:20.00 | Chingon | Thank you :) |
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| 11:20.16 | Deedubb | Hello, can someone tell me if its possible to force linux to use write-behind instead of using the 'assumed' write-through caching for my USB drive? |
| 11:20.18 | locomia | yw |
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| 11:21.03 | Myon | Deedubb: hmm, sync vs. async mount options? |
| 11:21.36 | Deedubb | Myon, ya, I'm not getting that far, it's taking several hours to format a 80G drive |
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| 11:22.12 | Deedubb | the drive is not defective, well, in a way it is, but it works well under windows |
| 11:22.13 | ptobler | hi |
| 11:22.17 | ptobler | is there a good howto on etch and tf-8? |
| 11:22.19 | ptobler | utf-8 |
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| 11:24.10 | Myon | ptobler: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:24.13 | Myon | that should do it |
| 11:24.24 | Myon | Deedubb: sorry, no idea, it was just a wild guess |
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| 11:24.54 | Deedubb | a response is nice, thanks anyway Myon |
| 11:24.59 | Thunderguy | Hey I have a problem, not sure what it is. |
| 11:25.14 | Deedubb | good luck |
| 11:25.16 | Thunderguy | I rebooted Debian and the kernel froze on 'scsi' detection |
| 11:25.48 | tuxipuxi | nuke: worked, thanks :) |
| 11:26.31 | Thunderguy | even in safe mode, I blame probably an update after I upgraded things, but do you think there is a way I can get the kernel to finish booting despite it is finding 'scsi' devices? all my discs are IDE so I don't know what it's finding. |
| 11:26.34 | locomia | Thunderguy: do you have a usb stick or so connected ? |
| 11:26.37 | Thunderguy | I have the resources of knoppix right now |
| 11:26.43 | Thunderguy | locomia: Nope, nothing |
| 11:26.48 | locomia | : \ |
| 11:27.03 | Thunderguy | I just installed Debian, then I guess this happened after apt-get upgrade |
| 11:27.09 | Thunderguy | but now I can't even boot into it |
| 11:27.42 | locomia | new kernel maybe? |
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| 11:30.09 | Thunderguy | locomia: Same kernel, I think it's new kernel modules |
| 11:30.46 | locomia | if it's the same kernel, then they must be the same kernel modules I think |
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| 11:33.25 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 8h 40m 13s ago, saying: 'enterusername: tried #vmware?'. |
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| 11:39.55 | mattfury | hi |
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| 11:40.38 | mattfury | i was wondering if debian or the developers of ati and ntfs drivers have made any improvements to the stated drivers??? |
| 11:40.53 | mattfury | e.g. usable ati drivers :D |
| 11:41.02 | mattfury | or writable ntfs partition. |
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| 11:41.19 | Xemanth^ | no such thing as usable ati drivers :shh: |
| 11:41.42 | mattfury | fuck em to hell :P |
| 11:41.58 | Xemanth^ | well, im not the real xemanth, im his bro, and I shall leave now |
| 11:42.08 | mattfury | ok :/ |
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| 11:42.47 | mattfury | my dns is playing up again ... damn something, i just cant put my finger on it. |
| 11:43.34 | kEEg | does anyone know to prevent sshd showing daemon version info when it receives connection request @ port 22? |
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| 11:43.58 | Nick0r | guys how can you see what group a process is running under |
| 11:44.41 | ktwilight | is anyone familiar with sysv-rc-conf? i have removed an app through update-rc.d but it's still listed under sysv-rc-conf, i've checked /etc/rc*.d/ and it's not there anymore. so that means sysv-rc-conf. is there a way to update sysv-rc-conf? |
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| 11:46.54 | itchi | ktwilight: Have you try/look with 'rcconf', is musch more easyer |
| 11:47.19 | ktwilight | k, will see :) |
| 11:48.29 | ktwilight | rcconf isn't what i need :/ |
| 11:48.38 | ktwilight | but it means that sysv-rc-conf has a bug :( |
| 11:48.53 | itchi | ktwilight: aaai, need to look with reportbug ?? |
| 11:48.58 | raf256 | after apt-get source psi I got: psi-0.10/ psi_0.10-2.diff.gz psi_0.10-2.dsc psi_0.10.orig.tar.gz |
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| 11:49.21 | ktwilight | yup |
| 11:49.22 | raf256 | the psi-0.10/ directory already have the patch -2 (.diff.gz) applyed, or should I do that by hand? |
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| 11:49.37 | schemebow | How do I make sure my X server starts with a resolution of 1024x768? |
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| 11:49.50 | mnrdknn | hey i'm having problems with GKSU.. it asks for password but nothing happens then... |
| 11:50.29 | nuke | schemebow :if you quit X with that resolution, you should get the same one when u log back in |
| 11:50.29 | raf256 | anyone? |
| 11:50.40 | raf256 | I want to patch PSI (more verbose info how to get TSL support) |
| 11:50.57 | schemebow | nuke: oh, that's new then, I guess. Thanks |
| 11:52.06 | raf256 | anyone? |
| 11:52.13 | raf256 | damn, I want to donate to debian and no help |
| 11:52.21 | ktwilight | ... |
| 11:52.22 | itchi | azeem: It's looks that someone have set an ban on my other nick (scratchi), and not on an hostmask, the whole name banned. How come that ? |
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| 11:52.50 | Myon | raf256: the patch is already applied |
| 11:52.56 | raf256 | Myon: thanks |
| 11:52.57 | nuke | raf256: man patch ? |
| 11:53.02 | Myon | the dpkg-source output should have told you that |
| 11:53.08 | raf256 | nuke: I know how to apply it, I wondered should I do it |
| 11:53.27 | nuke | raf256:you could read the changelog for the versions |
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| 11:53.38 | raf256 | ok, when I fixed the source that I got by apt-get source, how to make a nice .deb out of it? and how to install it instead oryginal one? |
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| 11:53.50 | raf256 | and should I rename it? |
| 11:53.56 | raf256 | it is psi-0.10-2 |
| 11:54.16 | raf256 | my patch adds information how to install TSL support, because the default message "No TSL plugin." imho sucked for end user |
| 11:54.32 | raf256 | should I name it like.. psi-0.10-2a ? |
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| 11:56.08 | raf256 | " In Debian system, install the package qca-tls (reccomended by package psi) to have TLS and PGP support in PSI." it sounds ok? |
| 11:56.30 | blondie | raf256: do you want comments on your English? |
| 11:56.37 | raf256 | blondie: yes |
| 11:56.45 | blondie | "On Debian systems," |
| 11:56.48 | azeem | itchi: I don't know, my logs are incomplete |
| 11:57.07 | azeem | itchi: it is/was a bot? |
| 11:57.20 | itchi | azeem: Yes, that one of #debian-belgium |
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| 11:57.47 | itchi | azeem: Currently i get some informations of dpkg translate if for #debian-belgium |
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| 11:58.15 | tdn | I get this error all the time when I use apt-get: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=56. I am using Debian Stable and everything is up to date. |
| 11:58.19 | azeem | itchi: so what do you need it for in here? |
| 11:58.35 | itchi | azeem: Getting data :-) |
| 11:58.46 | raf256 | in apt-get source, how to rename the package to like psi-0.10-2.1, and how to compile it into a .deb? |
| 11:58.56 | azeem | so it doesn't react to anything? And doesn't talk at all? |
| 11:59.23 | azeem | itchi: gotta go now, bbl |
| 11:59.29 | itchi | azeem: But yes, like you ask, i not really need to access here with this bot, like it's an Dutch on, but the ban are set on the name and not on the hostmask, that's not right |
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| 12:00.24 | itchi | azeem: I remove it of his config, so he no more join it, I had need to join him his one time here, but no more needed. |
| 12:01.08 | itchi | azeem: Some time i use that nick to chat here :-) and like the ban are an the whole name and not on the hostmask, it's not no more possible to connect whit that name |
| 12:01.18 | tarzeau | can i suppress only these messages from syslog: rpc.mountd: can't stat exported dir /x ? |
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| 12:01.24 | raf256 | no debian devels here? |
| 12:01.37 | tarzeau | raf256: edit debian/control |
| 12:01.42 | Thunderguy | I'm for real, debian doesn't detect my hard drive anymore, it did when I installed it |
| 12:01.42 | tarzeau | raf256: run debuild |
| 12:01.49 | tarzeau | raf256: also edit debian/changelog |
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| 12:01.53 | Thunderguy | but it doesn't anymore, /dev/hda7 doesn't exist, is what it says |
| 12:01.59 | Thunderguy | but it does exist because Knoppix mounted it |
| 12:02.00 | tarzeau | raf256: there might be more files you'll need to edit, depending on the package |
| 12:02.18 | xapaho | hi folks |
| 12:02.48 | raf256 | tarzeau: I dont see version name (0.10) in debian/controll.. only "0.10" grep finds in debian/changelog |
| 12:03.06 | tarzeau | raf256: control is for package/source name |
| 12:03.09 | tarzeau | raf256: changelog version |
| 12:03.10 | itchi | azeem: BTW, know you who i can contact to get the info's of the dpkg bot, i want to translate some parts of it. Actually i do everything manually, it take time to get the job done :-/ |
| 12:03.57 | raf256 | psi (0.10-2.1) unstable; urgency=low |
| 12:03.57 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.59 | raf256 | like this? |
| 12:04.06 | fluxdude | my winXP machine cannot use share on linux box, it asks for username/password where username is linuxbox\Guest and is greyed out! |
| 12:04.10 | fluxdude | this works fineon my win2000 machine, I can change the username and log on to the share |
| 12:04.14 | fluxdude | any ideas? |
| 12:04.19 | itchi | azeem: That bot i run is 'similar' as that on of dpkg, but translated to Dutch for the #debian-belgium :-) |
| 12:04.22 | tarzeau | raf256: for yourself? |
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| 12:04.29 | tarzeau | raf256: that's an NMU version number |
| 12:04.36 | raf256 | tarzeau: say again? |
| 12:04.46 | tarzeau | raf256: is the package for you only and your computer? |
| 12:04.47 | raf256 | tarzeau: I want to name the version that I just created by a tiny patch. oryginal is 0.10-2 |
| 12:04.49 | *** part/#debian presidentti (n=juho@kone25069.ippnet.fi) |
| 12:04.51 | itchi | azeem: I think it's blootbot that are used here. Right ? |
| 12:04.57 | raf256 | tarzeau: I want to propose it as a bugfix |
| 12:05.02 | xapaho | would anyone know how to mount netware volumes ? all I know is its type number from the end of partition tools : 65. Else, would you please suggest another irc channel to ask ? (either way, google was not so kind to me) |
| 12:05.14 | tarzeau | raf256: then send a patch to the BTS |
| 12:05.26 | itchi | azeem: Like these i run is supybot, i find it very wel, writed in Python :-p |
| 12:05.52 | itchi | azeem: That blootbot is perl, im not very well with it |
| 12:05.53 | raf256 | tarzeau: yes, but should the patch incluse the addition to chnagelog? |
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| 12:06.07 | tarzeau | raf256: no |
| 12:06.18 | itchi | azeem: If you want, put an ban on my hostmask or so, if you not sure ;-) |
| 12:06.24 | ptobler | Myon: no that doesn't work... everything's working except the euro-sign |
| 12:06.31 | tarzeau | raf256: why don't you send the patch to upstream even? |
| 12:07.07 | raf256 | tarzeau: it is distro dependant |
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| 12:07.14 | raf256 | tarzeau: it just adds message |
| 12:07.16 | Myon | ptobler: does your terminal use iso-8895-15 or utf8? |
| 12:07.24 | petemc | raf256: whats so unclear about "missing ssl plugin" anyway? |
| 12:07.24 | raf256 | " In Debian systems, install the package qca-tls (reccomended by package psi) to have TLS and PGP support in PSI." |
| 12:07.42 | tarzeau | raf256: do you know about package recommends and suggests? |
| 12:07.53 | raf256 | petemc: some users, as myself, might got confused and think "well, it seems that debian's version of PSI do not have SSL yet" and use gaim instead |
| 12:07.58 | paq | hmm the motd is not printed when i ssh into my box, how can i fix that? i have "session optional pam_motd.so # [1]" in /etc/pam.d/ssh but it doesnt seem to have any effect |
| 12:07.59 | raf256 | tarzeau: yes |
| 12:08.05 | tarzeau | raf256: it recommends it |
| 12:08.13 | raf256 | tarzeau: that is written in the message in my patch, read above |
| 12:08.22 | tarzeau | paq: edit your sshd configuration |
| 12:08.35 | tarzeau | raf256: yes i noticed, but that's really .. not really smart |
| 12:08.37 | petemc | raf256: but surely it mentioning "plugin" and "missing"... |
| 12:08.38 | raf256 | tarzeau: synaptic do not install reccomended packages by default it sees |
| 12:08.40 | raf256 | *seems |
| 12:08.52 | tarzeau | raf256: yes because the software works perfectly without it |
| 12:09.13 | raf256 | tarzeau: in result, a newbie will get a PSI that do not have working SSL, and no hint how to install it. |
| 12:09.24 | raf256 | so he will use GAIM instead |
| 12:10.13 | raf256 | tarzeau: we want to be more newbies friendly or not? |
| 12:10.29 | tarzeau | *shrug* |
| 12:10.42 | tarzeau | raf256: write it into README.Debian |
| 12:10.47 | tarzeau | raf256: that's friendly. |
| 12:10.50 | raf256 | tarzeau: newbies dont read it |
| 12:10.59 | tarzeau | raf256: so? |
| 12:11.00 | raf256 | tarzeau: damn. that is wrong with you linux peoples |
| 12:11.04 | petemc | .. |
| 12:11.11 | raf256 | "fuck users, they should read man pages!" |
| 12:11.13 | tarzeau | raf256: i'm not linux people |
| 12:11.17 | raf256 | "no hints for them!" |
| 12:11.19 | tarzeau | raf256: i use windows! |
| 12:11.21 | blondie | raf256: yes, they should read manuals |
| 12:11.21 | tarzeau | n00b |
| 12:11.33 | raf256 | blondie: as a result users just ditch linux |
| 12:11.39 | tarzeau | raf256: README.Debian is a very good hint |
| 12:11.42 | blondie | constant dumbing-down of things is annoying |
| 12:11.45 | tarzeau | raf256: so what? |
| 12:11.47 | raf256 | _newbies_ dont read readmes |
| 12:11.52 | tarzeau | raf256: linux is just a kernel anyways |
| 12:12.00 | raf256 | tarzeau: and without peoples using it debian will evlove slower |
| 12:12.02 | blondie | raf256: that's their problem |
| 12:12.04 | raf256 | linux distro |
| 12:12.05 | petemc | urgh |
| 12:12.12 | tarzeau | raf256: users try GNOME and get disappointed, then they try KDE and get disappointed and switch back to Windows |
| 12:12.12 | Thunderguy | I _really_ need some help, my new debian install suddenly can no longer detect my Hard drive, and I have no idea why |
| 12:12.15 | raf256 | "thats their problem! fuck users!" |
| 12:12.19 | raf256 | good attitute. |
| 12:12.23 | tarzeau | raf256: linux distros suck, understand? |
| 12:12.24 | Administrator | why is libc6-dev-amd64 being installed on i386 when invoking apt-get install gcc? |
| 12:12.30 | Administrator | !libc6-dev-amd64 |
| 12:12.31 | tarzeau | raf256: no they just need to read more |
| 12:12.33 | blondie | if they're too lazy to read manuals, then yes it is their problem |
| 12:12.36 | raf256 | Thunderguy: upgraded drviers, udev or something? |
| 12:12.49 | Thunderguy | raf256: I don't know, I just did the apt-get upgrade |
| 12:12.54 | blondie | people are so fucking lazy, they expect everything to be done for them |
| 12:13.01 | raf256 | tarzeau: blondie: but untill they lear to do so, why not help them? ANY good reason? the additional 20 bytes? |
| 12:13.10 | blondie | raf256: the manual is there to help them |
| 12:13.13 | raf256 | blondie: yes. and if debian dont do it, it gets less popular. |
| 12:13.17 | esben | Debian is not, and have never been, and newbie distro. |
| 12:13.25 | raf256 | if debian gets less popular, then it will develop slower |
| 12:13.26 | raf256 | and so on |
| 12:13.27 | blondie | what esben said |
| 12:13.32 | Thunderguy | raf256: kernel boots, it finds the hard drive then activates some USB scsi emulation and finds more stuff, and confuses itself then later says /dev/hda7 does not exist, but Knoppix proves it does exist |
| 12:13.35 | tarzeau | raf256: i'd put READ /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/ FOR HELP in /etc/motd |
| 12:13.43 | tarzeau | raf256: and /etc/issue as well |
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| 12:13.55 | blondie | raf256: debian isn't ubuntu... it's not designed for n00bs |
| 12:13.57 | esben | For newbies, I recommend something like Kubuntu |
| 12:14.00 | tarzeau | raf256: users are consumers |
| 12:14.12 | tarzeau | raf256: it's not like people who don't read will develop debian (or faster) |
| 12:14.15 | raf256 | if all newbies will use Ubuntu |
| 12:14.17 | tarzeau | raf256: nor more people will do |
| 12:14.17 | esben | in fact, I recommend Kubuntu to nearly everyone :) Debian is a dev-thing |
| 12:14.19 | raf256 | then Debian will die soon |
| 12:14.23 | tarzeau | raf256: no it won't |
| 12:14.27 | raf256 | every debian devel was a newbie once |
| 12:14.31 | blondie | esben: but kde sucks :P |
| 12:14.31 | streuner | esben: /j #kubuntu then |
| 12:14.46 | streuner | esben: we recommend debian |
| 12:14.52 | tarzeau | raf256: some still are, so what? |
| 12:15.02 | tarzeau | raf256: who cares if someone is a newbie or not? |
| 12:15.05 | raf256 | what would happened if every newbie would be frighten by debian and go to windows? |
| 12:15.06 | OleMoudi | Thunderguy, I have a similar problem when upgrade involves kernel-image upgrade, because the grub conf files are overwriten and somehow debian confuses /dev/hd* with my /dev/sd* hard drives |
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| 12:15.13 | tarzeau | raf256: nothing |
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| 12:15.17 | esben | Nono, you misunderstand... Debian is nice if you are developing. But it is not a nice, friendly distro. It is like Gentoo in that respect |
| 12:15.23 | raf256 | tarzeau: so who woul be debian devels then? |
| 12:15.33 | tarzeau | raf256: the people who don't get frightened |
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| 12:15.39 | blondie | raf256: gentoo is much less n00b-friendly, but plenty of people use it |
| 12:15.43 | raf256 | tarzeau: so x5 less debian devels. yeeey. |
| 12:15.44 | Thunderguy | OleMoudi: Have any suggestions? |
| 12:15.55 | petemc | raf256: why do you always have to make stupid statements and start arguments when you're in here? |
| 12:15.59 | tarzeau | raf256: look it's not the amount |
| 12:16.02 | tarzeau | raf256: really. not. |
| 12:16.18 | raf256 | 95% people I know are using windows not linux, because of such attitute |
| 12:16.31 | raf256 | as a result linux is less wellcommed in companies they will work or manage later |
| 12:16.36 | raf256 | and in long term it will get less popular |
| 12:16.39 | esben | Besides, a (K)ubuntu dev is 50% Debian-dev, or more, depending on the area of expertise :) |
| 12:16.41 | tarzeau | raf256: that's just bullshit |
| 12:17.08 | raf256 | tarzeau: what is? I am lying about 95% of my friends using windows because linux is not user friendly enought |
| 12:17.14 | raf256 | *am I |
| 12:17.21 | GoAuLd | linux requires more knowledge than windows, you like it or not, thats a fact |
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| 12:17.24 | Aim_Here | Yes. |
| 12:17.24 | esben | raf256: Point them to Kubuntu |
| 12:17.25 | OleMoudi | Thunderguy, I read your kernel boots, so it's not the same problem I had, but if you have a SATA hd, check conf files to see if there is a /dev/hd* where it should be a /dev/sd* |
| 12:17.27 | _www_[off | opa |
| 12:17.38 | Aim_Here | 95% of your friends use Windows because that's what they know |
| 12:17.46 | _www_[off | alguem sabe me dizer o porque desse erro ? |
| 12:17.48 | _www_[off | error: newly created file is older than distributed files! |
| 12:17.48 | _www_[off | Check your system clock |
| 12:17.49 | petemc | 99% of pcs come with windows installed.. |
| 12:17.53 | tarzeau | raf256: 95 % of people use windows because they don't care , or don't have the time/interest to read how things work |
| 12:17.57 | streuner | GoAuLd: there is no OS without learning every day. |
| 12:18.05 | GoAuLd | no |
| 12:18.08 | tarzeau | raf256: not because of any attitudes or unfriendlynesses |
| 12:18.16 | GoAuLd | let me put you an example |
| 12:18.29 | tarzeau | raf256: companies welcome whatever gets the job done in a way good for them |
| 12:18.33 | streuner | GoAuLd: most people use windows from the beginning, but if you are able to read you can run debian always... |
| 12:18.33 | esben | And because they want to be able to read other peoples worddocuments perfectly (yes I know, but facts doesn't matter much) |
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| 12:18.50 | tarzeau | raf256: and in long term. your attitude would make linux be like windows |
| 12:18.54 | GoAuLd | angela buys a new pc with windows installed, insert a blank CD y whoila it appears a menu ASKING what to do with the blank CD and a set of options |
| 12:19.04 | tarzeau | raf256: like hiding important information and crap like that |
| 12:19.06 | GoAuLd | 2: insert a USB stick witch pics |
| 12:19.17 | raf256 | tarzeau: no, the point is to LEAVE the advance stuff, but IN ADDITION give HINTS how to use it. |
| 12:19.23 | GoAuLd | we have the same here, windows asking what to do with it |
| 12:19.32 | tarzeau | raf256: like GNOME did? |
| 12:19.32 | GoAuLd | copy, move to.. send by mail |
| 12:19.40 | esben | GoAuLd: And so does KDE? What is the point here? |
| 12:19.50 | GoAuLd | in linux ussualy you have to configure something |
| 12:19.54 | raf256 | tarzeau: this is fucking irritating, most linux distro devels forget about that fuct and then we wonder why linux is not condered seriously by in example game developers |
| 12:19.54 | GoAuLd | and search linux |
| 12:19.59 | GoAuLd | or edit /etc/fstab |
| 12:20.01 | raf256 | tarzeau: I dunno about GNOME, what didyou mean |
| 12:20.11 | *** part/#debian _www_[off (n=PaNiCo@rotcol.cpd.ufv.br) |
| 12:20.23 | tarzeau | raf256: the point why nobody develops commercially linux software is simple |
| 12:20.36 | raf256 | tarzeau: ID does |
| 12:20.50 | tarzeau | raf256: it'll not run on all linux computers (high efforts put in) and no market (no buyers) |
| 12:20.50 | GoAuLd | esben: problem is not usability, kde an gnome are very easy to use |
| 12:20.56 | raf256 | Linux seriously needs a nice tutorial / guide / etc to not scare away newbies, and my patch was a tiny step in such direction. |
| 12:20.57 | tarzeau | raf256: but for other reasons |
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| 12:21.14 | tarzeau | raf256: GNOME removed the important stuff and fucked up their users |
| 12:21.18 | raf256 | tarzeau: no market is result of what I told above, IMHO |
| 12:21.23 | GoAuLd | the problem is integration with devices and auto - recoignance things on the fly |
| 12:21.29 | raf256 | tarzeau: what do you mean by important stuff? I didnt use GNOME so I dunno |
| 12:21.36 | tarzeau | raf256: the users that didn't notice are the ones that moved to Ubuntu |
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| 12:22.13 | tarzeau | GoAuLd: that's one important point |
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| 12:22.58 | esben | GoAuLd: It seems to work well enough here. I plug in a mouse, and it works, plug in a camera, and it works, plug in my phone and it works. But I don't get the vendorspecific software, if that's what you mean. I don't see how to force that, though. |
| 12:23.06 | xapaho | raf256: well, I'm rather a linux newbie, but still I love Debian, came back from Ubuntu. Very impressed how stable and easy it has become to install, admin and use for about anything. And about its HUGE documentation on the web. Finaly, the few times I was really stuck, I found precious help here or at other places. Big thank to all! |
| 12:23.12 | raf256 | tarzeau: what stuff got removed? |
| 12:23.27 | tarzeau | raf256: settings. one setting for everyone |
| 12:23.35 | esben | Oth, I can't install window XP on my box at home, due to SATA disks. I have actually given up, that's how hard it is. |
| 12:23.51 | raf256 | tarzeau: so my point is: leave all the advance stuff as it is, BUT in ADDITION give some newbies-hints. Why not? |
| 12:24.00 | tarzeau | raf256: really i don't know the details, but i get a very limited and prisonerlike feeling when i try GNOME (or KDE) |
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| 12:24.09 | Halleck | hey, is there a way to get a list of the current reliable apt sources? I'm having a helluva time finding a working one for my netinstall of sarge. |
| 12:24.13 | tarzeau | raf256: nice, but do it right |
| 12:24.18 | raf256 | tarzeau: like? |
| 12:24.24 | tarzeau | raf256: README.Debian |
| 12:24.31 | raf256 | tarzeau: it is there already |
| 12:24.32 | tarzeau | raf256: consistency is very important |
| 12:24.39 | tarzeau | raf256: then it is consistent |
| 12:24.45 | GoAuLd | esben: maybe all of that you sayd worked perfectly, but worked it the first time you pluged it in? |
| 12:24.45 | raf256 | tarzeau: ok, so how about at least point the user to README? |
| 12:25.02 | tarzeau | raf256: did you ever read any debian documentation? |
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| 12:25.12 | raf256 | tarzeau: yea |
| 12:25.14 | esben | GoAuLd: It worked from the live CD, yes |
| 12:25.24 | esben | GoAuLd: and after installing, too |
| 12:25.33 | raf256 | tarzeau: "(Read how to install Plugin: vim /usr/share/psi/README)" |
| 12:25.53 | esben | Heaven knows, it not something I would configure :) |
| 12:26.17 | Halleck | anyone? |
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| 12:26.36 | raf256 | Halleck: well the entire list is in /etc/apt/sources.list .. |
| 12:26.53 | tarzeau | raf256: have you tried other systems besides Windows and Linux? |
| 12:26.58 | GoAuLd | i dont think it was as easy as that |
| 12:27.06 | raf256 | tarzeau: well.. dos ;) what is your point? |
| 12:27.17 | GoAuLd | there is ever something you have to know in order to do something |
| 12:27.29 | Halleck | raf256: yes, but I |
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| 12:27.46 | Halleck | raf256: I'm having trouble finding a working one |
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| 12:28.13 | GoAuLd | another example, the grafics card... |
| 12:28.28 | nvz | this is a minor issue but causes a bit of greif. I was wondering if anyone knows how/why when using flash devices on windows and going to safely remove hardware the device is told its no longer in use.. because upon unmounting my volume on linux f.e. my thumbdrive the light stays on or on my mp3 player the file cabinet stays on.. and I often have to check the mtab to make sure its safe to... |
| 12:28.29 | nvz | ...remove instead of just looking at the device |
| 12:28.36 | GoAuLd | why the hell one have to do that fraking "hack" to get Xorg to work with render accel ? |
| 12:29.07 | GoAuLd | because things like editing Xorg, download drivers, installing it in a specific way.... |
| 12:29.17 | GoAuLd | thats like hacking for a newbye |
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| 12:29.33 | nvz | heh |
| 12:29.57 | GoAuLd | anyway the good news, linux is today a lot easier than a year before |
| 12:30.21 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 12:30.31 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:30.31 | formorer | and I can say its much easier than 10 years ago ;) |
| 12:30.31 | nvz | a year? try using it like 10 years ago |
| 12:30.31 | tarzeau | peterS: hi! |
| 12:30.39 | tarzeau | peterS: do you have the debconf photos with names to get them all? |
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| 12:31.44 | dEvIL | i need some help i can not install make |
| 12:31.52 | dEvIL | serv-4-13-225:~# make |
| 12:31.52 | dEvIL | -bash: make: command not found |
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| 12:31.59 | dEvIL | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 %h |
| 12:32.07 | vaggie | Doesnt grub support LVM ? |
| 12:32.10 | streuner | !b-e dEvIL |
| 12:32.10 | dpkg | dEvIL: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 12:32.20 | tarzeau | streuner: make would be enough |
| 12:32.25 | tarzeau | streuner: if he just needs make? |
| 12:32.40 | streuner | tarzeau: build-essential doesn't hurd (TM) :-) |
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| 12:33.56 | streuner | tarzeau: you answer the next question after he installed make :-) |
| 12:33.58 | esben | GoAuLd: What hack? |
| 12:34.17 | dEv1L | but how to install it |
| 12:34.17 | esben | I installed the ATI driver... that was it |
| 12:34.17 | dEv1L | apt-get |
| 12:34.22 | nvz | vaggie: you put your root fs on lvm? |
| 12:34.36 | nvz | furthermore you put /boot on lvm? |
| 12:34.37 | streuner | dEv1L: read what the bot (dpkg) told you |
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| 12:35.02 | tarzeau | streuner: sure |
| 12:35.11 | tarzeau | dEv1L: apt-get moo |
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| 12:35.27 | nvz | I cant imagine why anyone would do such a thing.. unless you are just glutton for punishment |
| 12:35.55 | esben | nvz: I principle, it's very slick. But the support is too messy, yet |
| 12:36.00 | nvz | I only use lvm for things that might actually need to grow inthe future |
| 12:36.32 | esben | nvz: Well, HD space is one of those things likely to grow (if I buy a new HD) |
| 12:36.38 | nvz | its unnessicary and just complicates matters.. imagine rescue scenarios..etc |
| 12:36.51 | nvz | hd space has nothing to do with the root fs |
| 12:37.15 | FuuaT | apt-get update |
| 12:37.20 | esben | nvz: If everything is one part, that's one less thing to worry about. I'm sure you can see that. (But I Totally agree, right now it is not a good thing to do) |
| 12:37.31 | nvz | you can partition in such a way the root fs contains nothing but a few directories taking up like a few mb and all the content of those directories is on other lvm volumes |
| 12:38.02 | esben | nvz: Yeah, but then you need several volumes, several partitions which you have to manage. |
| 12:38.22 | nvz | I got one partition on my workstation right now an I could slap myself.. I havent done that in years.. because I prefer to avoid shooting myself in the foot like that. |
| 12:38.47 | nvz | I ran out of space the other day.. if /home and /srv was separate it would have been far less of an issue |
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| 12:39.29 | esben | nvz: Partitions is a ugly hack to fix that, imho. |
| 12:39.37 | nvz | as they are the biggest things on my system and putting them on their own partition would insure that my user or any other user couldnt cause / to be out of space |
| 12:40.07 | esben | nvz: Quotas are the right tool for that job, and handles /tmp etc as well |
| 12:40.36 | oggis__ | Guys, it actually took me a few minutes to join this channel at 100% cpu. My client makes one dbus call per channel member ;p |
| 12:40.38 | esben | nvz: (But I use partitions for this, too :o) Easier...) |
| 12:40.40 | nvz | yeah, well I like having them separate because they are more portable as well |
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| 12:41.04 | nvz | I can take my /home to another box, or reinstall and not have to backup anything |
| 12:41.29 | esben | nvz: Really? You would need to fix up uid and gid if you did |
| 12:41.31 | Eulex | oggis__, ouch, try another irc client |
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| 12:41.50 | nvz | I use old and 2nd (possibly 42nd) hand hardware a lot |
| 12:42.00 | nvz | so I switch boxes frequently |
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| 12:42.31 | nvz | not really I usually only have 0 and 1000 as real users on my box. just me and root |
| 12:42.32 | oggis__ | Heh... Its not the clients fault. It is just developed for a framewrk which requires you to do that. |
| 12:42.47 | nvz | sometimes I will create users and groups for services like samba |
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| 12:42.52 | esben | nvz: Ah, that makes it easy. |
| 12:42.59 | Eulex | oggis__, hah |
| 12:43.10 | nvz | but I am always the first user.. and you could always use something like LDAP or other yellow page service |
| 12:43.48 | itchi | oggis__: What stuff are you using ? |
| 12:43.57 | oggis__ | Otherwise the framework fits irc just fine... |
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| 12:44.47 | nvz | I've been using /srv/samba/ owned nvz:smbguest for samba for awhile now.. smbguest is the default user for guests that dont have and account and I am the admin so I own most everything.. well now everything cause I am living alone with only two pcs.. heh |
| 12:45.08 | oggis_ | itchi: that oggis__ client is using my self-developed telepathy-idle connection manager for the Telepathy framework (http://telepathy.freedesktop.org). |
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| 12:45.36 | nvz | I had samba users home dirs in /srv/samba/ before, but now /srv/samba is just my shared content.. music, video, images, software.. there are no other users anymore |
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| 12:45.45 | azeem | itchi: yes, dpkg is a blootbot |
| 12:45.52 | oggis_ | itchi: I'm running it on Nokia Internet Tablet OS 2006 (on a tablet, that's why it's slow). The connection manager hasn't been released yet. |
| 12:45.55 | azeem | itchi: I think #debian-bots is the proper chan to discuss it |
| 12:46.14 | nvz | that shared content used to be smbguest's home dir /srv/samba/guest/ which I removed as it seemed pointless with only me around now |
| 12:46.39 | azeem | itchi: well, I'll research why the ban has been put into place, usually they are made if some new bot reacts on the same signal as a well-known bot, which is annoying |
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| 12:46.48 | davis | hello |
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| 12:47.04 | itchi | azeem: hhhmm, i not know that chan :-) |
| 12:47.16 | nvz | I am still working on getting at least a local sarge mirror in /srv/apt/ but havent had any success yet it would be helpful since I dont have internet at home |
| 12:47.33 | k31th | Guys i have setup apache2 and vhost seems to work if i do blah.com/index.html owever will not work if i do www.blah.com/index.html or just blah.com or www.blah.com |
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| 12:47.38 | k31th | any ideas? |
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| 12:48.03 | itchi | azeem: I think the first time i have run that bot on #debian he had the name of supybot, and then i have swith to the name scratchi, so op's have see it an have make an lazy ban on scratchi |
| 12:48.16 | davis | I am troubled by what I am seeing with debian. I don't think I am working it correctly. When I install something, I see a bunch of configuration dialogs. But when I de-install it and then reinstall it, I do not see the configuration dialogs again. Sometimes I will not see any and sometimes I might only see half. What is the deal? |
| 12:48.23 | nvz | I am gonna try just building it here and then taking it home I guess.. what I did was took the first 10 sarge iso's I had d/l on my homedir and mounted them loopback and copied all the pool dirs to /srv/apt/ but couldnt figure out how to properly build the package files |
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| 12:48.51 | nvz | seems its a lot easier to just build the mirror directly from an internet mirror than from cd images :P |
| 12:48.52 | azeem | davis: run dpkg-reconfigure <package> to see them again |
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| 12:49.03 | azeem | davis: Debian remembers your answers from last time if you install again |
| 12:49.06 | itchi | azeem: Normally that bot are not more go to run here, like we have now an #debian-belgium channel :-) |
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| 12:49.11 | davis | azeem: i do that and I dont see it ask me again. |
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| 12:49.55 | itchi | azeem: Thanks for you're participation and listen to my ;-) |
| 12:50.07 | azeem | itchi: I've asked about the ban now |
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| 12:50.38 | davis | azeem: for instance, i have messed up during the install of mysql-server, mysql-common, bugzilla, and phpmyadmin however when I reinstall them or use dpkg-reconfigure it does not ask me all of the original questions. I would like it to ask me all the questions again so I can fix my install. |
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| 12:51.05 | itchi | davis : Deinstall the apps with --purge ?? |
| 12:51.12 | davis | itchi: yes. |
| 12:51.13 | nvz | bah I am gonna have to get some sleep I cant concentrate enough to do anything productive it seems I am just rambling and my eyes hurt from looking at OpenOffice too long :P |
| 12:51.30 | itchi | davis: Have it help and solve the trouble ? |
| 12:51.34 | davis | apt-get remove --purge xxx. apt-get install xxx. dpkg-reconfigure -plow xxx. |
| 12:51.48 | itchi | nvz: hehe |
| 12:51.49 | davis | i still dont see all the questions. |
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| 12:52.01 | fri3d3rich | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 12:52.12 | itchi | nvz: Try 'sleep 5' ;-) |
| 12:52.30 | itchi | davis: Running Sarge ? |
| 12:52.35 | davis | unstable |
| 12:52.56 | Opportunist | ehm, hey - I still get two login (welcome) messages ... I looked into pam and sshd config.. in sshd I changed PrintMotd to no - and in pam I can't find anything |
| 12:53.06 | itchi | davis: I not know about it :-/ |
| 12:53.07 | nvz | I started to go to sleep while it was still dark out.. then I got back up for some reason and wrote the beginning of my essay and then went to McDonalds for breakfast and thought I was gonna come here and do some more research and finish the essay.. but doesnt feel like its gonna happen |
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| 12:53.37 | Ozux | who installed ispconfig in debian sarge and sid? |
| 12:53.54 | nvz | all I can think about is a nice soft pillow and a small asian chic giving me a back massage with her feet :P |
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| 12:54.15 | itchi | nvz: Have you look to 'apt-proxy' to make an mirror ? |
| 12:55.01 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 12:55.05 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!?=scratchi@*] by azeem |
| 12:55.07 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 12:55.19 | azeem | itchi: it triggered on @, just like ravenbird |
| 12:55.35 | nvz | itchi: no but I was going to. I got my cousins pc here.. its running woody I reckon he wanted me to update it and he said to clean any pr0n off it.. so I could have his pc making my mirror for me chugging away online so I dont have to bring mine over here. cause I dont have internet at home |
| 12:55.41 | sdsd | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 12:55.41 | sdsd | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 12:55.43 | itchi | azeem: ok ;-) |
| 12:55.48 | sdsd | apt-get install make |
| 12:55.51 | Opportunist | hey could somebody help me with my login message which appears twice? |
| 12:55.54 | fourat | i want to install mrtg to get stats of network interface on another server (debian) |
| 12:56.02 | itchi | azeem: So my bot want op ? |
| 12:56.07 | fourat | should i do something specific on this server ? |
| 12:56.11 | azeem | itchi: I don't understand |
| 12:56.23 | nvz | azeem: neither does he.. |
| 12:56.24 | azeem | itchi: see http://paste.debian.net/8146 |
| 12:56.27 | itchi | azeem: It's looks that i have also not understand ;-) |
| 12:56.32 | nvz | heh |
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| 12:58.06 | dEv1L | why do i get this error |
| 12:58.10 | dEv1L | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 12:58.14 | nvz | man I shouldnt have ate.. eating, drinking (alcohol), or having sex isnt really something to do if you are low on sleep and want to stay awake |
| 12:58.21 | charzero | Is there something I can do with sftp or scp to see if a file exists on a remote system, that will exit with a return code > 0 if it does not exist? |
| 12:58.28 | itchi | azeem: hhhmm that's looks strange |
| 12:58.36 | nvz | if I was still hungry I probably wouldnt be tired |
| 12:58.51 | azeem | dEv1L: what version of Debian are you running? |
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| 12:59.16 | dEv1L | 3.1 |
| 12:59.18 | itchi | azeem: My bot respond on ! an not on @ |
| 12:59.28 | azeem | itchi: well, dpkg responds on !... |
| 12:59.38 | dEv1L | azeem |
| 12:59.44 | azeem | so if you decide to make it join here again, please change that |
| 12:59.47 | itchi | azeem: Yes, that make another trouble, i look in the log ^^ |
| 12:59.58 | azeem | dEv1L: what does dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 say? |
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| 13:00.05 | charzero | ah. ssh host ls $file |
| 13:00.40 | sep | ChanServ, or jsut sftp user@host, and ls afterwards |
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| 13:02.49 | itchi | azeem: Sorry that my buggy bot have do an strange thing :-/ That do my think that i go to config it so that he not answer, if he not know what he need to do. |
| 13:03.08 | FuuaT | azeem, :libc6.1 download |
| 13:03.16 | azeem | FuuaT: hrm? |
| 13:03.19 | FuuaT | azeem:libc6.1 download |
| 13:03.22 | azeem | FuuaT: hrm? |
| 13:03.41 | azeem | FuuaT: what is the context of that? |
| 13:03.52 | FuuaT | azeem:libc6.1 package Download Selection |
| 13:04.24 | itchi | azeem: So ravenbird are also a bot :-) |
| 13:04.33 | azeem | yes |
| 13:04.50 | itchi | hehe |
| 13:04.56 | azeem | itchi: yes, just making it not answer on things it doesn't know is a good idea |
| 13:04.57 | davis | azeem: did you see my comments regarding my config settings being remembered? |
| 13:05.06 | davis | between installs. |
| 13:05.12 | azeem | davis: yeah, but I don't know what to say about it |
| 13:05.18 | itchi | azeem: It's an stupid bot :-/ He need to learn :-) |
| 13:05.41 | davis | azeem: i was thinking maybe it is because i am confused between mysql-server and mysql-common. |
| 13:05.51 | azeem | davis: that is possible |
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| 13:06.00 | azeem | davis: if there is nothing to configure, it won't ask questions |
| 13:06.09 | itchi | azeem: aarrg, it's does matters, he are now running on #debian-belgium and i still leave it there for people of my country. Like we have not many things, no bot, less docs ... |
| 13:06.32 | azeem | davis: search /var/cache/debconf/config.dat for mysql, that might give you hints on which package you need to reconfigure |
| 13:07.42 | itchi | azeem: Thanks again man for the research, the time you have put in my ;-) |
| 13:08.05 | itchi | azeem: Logs t'checks are not nice to do :-/ |
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| 13:10.15 | chimun | forza Azzurri! |
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| 13:10.41 | itchi | chimun: Yes, try 'tvtime' or 'mythtv', is veeerrrry wel :-) |
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| 13:10.54 | eleftherios | I am on Debian Etch, I upgraded courier-base, courier-authlib-userdb, courier-authlib, courier-authdaemon, courier-imap and I got a message from debconf about a requirement for a manual installation of something...(I accidentally pressed enter and lost the message). Any pointers please?? |
| 13:11.39 | davis | azeem: thanks. ill look |
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| 13:12.49 | abrotman | eleftherios: look in the control files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .. find the one you need to read |
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| 13:13.05 | eleftherios | abrotman, thank you |
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| 13:15.29 | darkhunt1r^ | hello |
| 13:15.33 | nvz | hello |
| 13:15.33 | buford | anyone know what the x resource that controls the speed at which a key being held down is repeated? |
| 13:15.52 | nvz | buford: look at xset not positive though |
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| 13:16.02 | nvz | buford: as in man xset |
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| 13:17.05 | nvz | I am tired and blankly starring at what I think is a decent draft of an opening paragraph to an essay which I havent organize any real points to follow it up with so what the hell do I know :P |
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| 13:18.49 | nvz | I always used to write without making notes and organizing thoughts.. I went straight from research to final draft doing all my organization and proof reading..etc in my head.. but it seems I am getting to old for that.. somewhere inbetween Iget tired now and seems notes would help pickup after sleep breaks heh |
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| 13:19.32 | abrotman | nvz: essay? |
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| 13:20.30 | darkhunt1r^ | help |
| 13:20.40 | nvz | yeah I have to take lititure classes cause I suck at english in case you never noticed |
| 13:20.46 | nvz | heh |
| 13:20.54 | nvz | that was better than if I had planned it |
| 13:21.17 | nvz | being tired brings out the yinzer :P |
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| 13:21.29 | eleftherios | abrotman, it was in courier-base.templates. A message about authentication modules, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/73093. Got any clues of what this is exactly? |
| 13:22.13 | buford | thanks nvz i'll take a look |
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| 13:22.42 | eleftherios | abauer, I guess it is asking all the courier-authlib-* packages |
| 13:22.48 | ThomasPorter | I'm not asking in the right channel, but I can't seem to find anyone else who would know. I'm running a free web hosting server on the network at work... so as you can emagine, many many connections.. We have one work computer that needs to upload one file once a night, although the server needs to be un-plugged to do so.. as it slows down the network to the point of it not functioning.. what needs to be done? |
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| 13:24.08 | ratm` | _Deimos_ |
| 13:24.13 | ratm` | oops sorry |
| 13:24.25 | buford | why are you unplugging the computer to upload something ThomasPorter ? |
| 13:24.31 | nvz | I am kind of working on two different essays but I am focusing on just one at the moment. I chose to praise rms as a hero of the information age, and a defender of its freedoms... even though I would probably have more fun making him out to be a fruitcake |
| 13:24.49 | ThomasPorter | buford, unplugging the server. |
| 13:25.12 | ThomasPorter | As it slows down the network the other computer on it wont beable to upload |
| 13:25.29 | buford | why do you unplug it to upload something? |
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| 13:25.53 | nvz | since he's such an open book he's an easy target for essay writing his whole life is public knowledge |
| 13:25.53 | buford | oh so the web server is using up all of the resources when you need to upload something |
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| 13:26.14 | ThomasPorter | buford, sorry... I didn't type that propperly |
| 13:26.17 | buford | nvz: more people are becoming like that what with blogs and stuff |
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| 13:26.33 | KULLANDIGINIZ_KI | dsasd |
| 13:26.36 | buford | the whole web2.0 thing is fuelled by companies finding ways to correlate data about you |
| 13:26.53 | nvz | buford: yeah well I identify a lot with him.. both his heroics and his insanity.. |
| 13:27.02 | ThomasPorter | buford, but yeah, all the resources are being used up by the web server.. for a start, if alot or downloads are going on.. will that effect the upload speed? |
| 13:27.20 | nvz | buford: I think I may learn a little about myself through exploring rms |
| 13:27.38 | buford | ThomasPorter, yeah probably, there is probably a way to limit the bandwidth given to certain processes for a certain amount of time |
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| 13:28.07 | buford | i don't know if setting the nice value would have any effect..? |
| 13:28.26 | buford | nvz: i've been reading free software, free society |
| 13:28.26 | ThomasPorter | buford, simply buying a faster connection help? |
| 13:28.38 | buford | ThomasPorter: how big is this file? |
| 13:28.39 | ThomasPorter | buford, or would the website simply grow and use up that connection aswell. |
| 13:28.46 | dEv1L | where to download the sources.list the newes one with gcc make |
| 13:28.52 | ThomasPorter | buford, few MB. |
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| 13:29.11 | buford | i don't know, i don't fully understand your setup ThomasPorter... |
| 13:29.30 | nvz | buford: I read a good bit of that 'free as in freedom' last night.. slightly interesting but seems mostly useless for the scope of my essay so far .. |
| 13:29.36 | dEv1L | serv-4-13-225:/etc/apt# ls -a |
| 13:29.36 | dEv1L | . .. apt.conf.d preferences sources.list |
| 13:29.39 | dEv1L | where to download the sources.list the newes one with gcc make |
| 13:29.42 | buford | a real simple way would be to set a cron job to block access to the http ports while you're trying to upload the file? |
| 13:29.58 | buford | nvz: are you writing the essay for fun? class? |
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| 13:30.03 | JoyFM | hi |
| 13:30.10 | JoyFM | where can i get linux-kbuild-2.6.17 ? |
| 13:30.12 | azeem | dEv1L: what is your native language? |
| 13:30.19 | dEv1L | albanian |
| 13:30.24 | azeem | JoyFM: it'll be uploaded soon, AFAIK |
| 13:30.31 | azeem | dEv1L: hrm |
| 13:30.42 | azeem | dEv1L: I don't understand your gcc question |
| 13:30.54 | ThomasPorter | buford, okay, I am running a LAN network with one PC and one server... the server uses up heaps or resources so the internet on the PC doesn't function while the server is plugged in. Each night I need to send off a report that is afew MB from the PC but I am un-able to do so as the internet is too slow because of the server. |
| 13:31.05 | ThomasPorter | **heaps of |
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| 13:31.23 | dEv1L | serv-4-13-225:/etc/apt# ls -a |
| 13:31.23 | dEv1L | . .. apt.conf.d preferences sources.list |
| 13:31.32 | dEv1L | where to download the sources.list |
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| 13:31.36 | dEv1L | newest one |
| 13:31.44 | azeem | dEv1L: you cannot download sources.list |
| 13:31.45 | blondie | what do you mean? |
| 13:31.57 | azeem | dEv1L: you can edit it, if you want |
| 13:32.03 | azeem | dEv1L: what package do you want to install? |
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| 13:32.08 | dEv1L | but where to get the new ones |
| 13:32.10 | azeem | and which version? |
| 13:32.17 | dEv1L | apt-get install gcc |
| 13:32.19 | buford | ThomasPorter: if it has slowed down that much your website is probably slow for a lot of users |
| 13:32.21 | dEv1L | i whant to install this |
| 13:32.21 | nvz | buford: for class the idea was to write about someone you would consider a hero I chose him for both his influence and as I said his availability. everything there is to know about him can be found just about anywhere. dont need to look far. it will turn out to look like a damn good essay and I will not have actually had to do that much footwork |
| 13:32.30 | dEv1L | apt-get install make |
| 13:32.34 | buford | ThomasPorter: if it's a business website then it might be worth buying a faster connection |
| 13:32.34 | dusty-work | Hey guys anyone here really familiar with OpenVPN, I need some advice before I implement it at our company? |
| 13:32.48 | azeem | dEv1L: so what is the problem? |
| 13:32.58 | abrotman | dusty-work: make a better question :) |
| 13:33.21 | dusty-work | ok |
| 13:33.22 | dEv1L | azeem when i install i get eror so i need |
| 13:33.31 | azeem | dEv1L: you need to fix the error then |
| 13:33.32 | dEv1L | the new lsit so i will install it without problem |
| 13:33.40 | ThomasPorter | buford, what sort of speed would you recommend for a free web hosting server? |
| 13:33.41 | blondie | dEv1L: what is the error? |
| 13:33.44 | dEv1L | how to fix this : E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 13:34.03 | buford | nvz: the availablilty thing is an interesting point- it's easy to get influenced by net culture because it's so easilly available when in fact there is a lot of great work being done offline.. |
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| 13:34.27 | buford | ThomasPorter: well... infinite? if it's free everyone's going to be wanting to use it and it will always be filled to capacity |
| 13:34.36 | azeem | dEv1L: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 13:34.47 | buford | ThomasPorter: it just depends how much you want to give away to people.. how come you are hosting a free server? |
| 13:34.54 | dusty-work | Basically i'm the net admin for a small scanning bureau, who want to setup a vpnserver for clients to connect to and grab there scanned documents. Now, i have propsed we purchase a server install debian on it, set it up as a firewall with Open VPN on and use samba to restrict what files they can see and where etc... does this sound like a viable solution for a small/medium business |
| 13:35.05 | dEv1L | serv-4-13-225:/etc/apt# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 13:35.05 | dEv1L | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 13:35.26 | dusty-work | as in, will it work with windows clients? |
| 13:35.30 | azeem | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 13:35.30 | dpkg | it has been said that e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian etch or sid which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:35.35 | azeem | dEv1L: ^^ read that |
| 13:35.38 | dusty-work | over the internet? |
| 13:35.50 | dusty-work | like how well will it perform, etc? |
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| 13:35.58 | dEv1L | azeem what u mean ? |
| 13:36.01 | nvz | buford: not to mention I dont expect my audience to know this person.. if I did someone thats dead like a president or musican or something they would know what to expect.. I have easy access to virtually limitless info on rms and freedom to take it in any direction because I am not writing to an audience that knows much of anything about his work |
| 13:36.01 | benluo | hi |
| 13:36.03 | ThomasPorter | buford, my google ads pay for all expences, believe it or not. |
| 13:36.06 | azeem | dEv1L: paste the content of sources.list to a pastebin |
| 13:36.07 | azeem | !paster |
| 13:36.08 | dpkg | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 13:36.25 | dEv1L | deb http://mirrors.lycos-vds.com/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 13:36.25 | dEv1L | deb-src http://mirrors.lycos-vds.com/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 13:36.25 | dEv1L | deb http://mirrors.lycos-vds.com/local/debian testing vds |
| 13:36.25 | dEv1L | deb-src http://mirrors.lycos-vds.com/local/debian testing vds |
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| 13:36.28 | buford | ThomasPorter: fork as much money into it as possible then if it makes you more... |
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| 13:37.00 | Werdna | ThomasPorter, mind responding to my pm? |
| 13:37.01 | benluo | how to install debian/etch in a usb stick? |
| 13:37.01 | azeem | dEv1L: change testing to stable and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 13:37.19 | benluo | i can install, but my usb stick can not boot the system |
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| 13:37.27 | ThomasPorter | Sorry Werdana |
| 13:37.43 | dusty-work | abrotman? |
| 13:37.44 | buford | ThomasPorter: what is the url of your website? mind if i take a look at it? |
| 13:37.56 | Halleck | this is bizzare... i've got a dual-boot machine now, with windows/mandrake 8 (via lnx4win) and debian.. but when I am under debian and access /boot it's different from the /boot that mandrake sees, the real one. any ideas on what |
| 13:38.03 | Halleck | is going on? |
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| 13:38.27 | buford | nvz: what's the class exactly..? if you want to try to make an impression encourage them to read 'right to read' |
| 13:38.33 | azeem | Halleck: do you have a partition dedicated to boot on Mandrake? |
| 13:38.57 | Halleck | no, it's using lnx4win so it's a huge file on a windows partition |
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| 13:39.25 | dEv1L | azeem: What interface should be used for configuring packages? ¦ |
| 13:39.25 | dEv1L | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.25 | dEv1L | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.25 | dEv1L | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:39.36 | dEv1L | What interface should be used for configuring packages? |
| 13:39.39 | dEv1L | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.41 | nvz | buford: as I said, I am terrible with english even though its my first language.. heh foreign languages and cultures just seem easier to grasp. so I am taking english/literature classes |
| 13:39.42 | dEv1L | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.46 | Werdna | dEv1L, dpkg? |
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| 13:39.54 | Werdna | you mind stopping the flooding as well? |
| 13:40.07 | azeem | dEv1L: don't paste into the channel |
| 13:40.12 | azeem | use paste.debian.net |
| 13:40.22 | azeem | dEv1L: and anyway, please resaerch yourself before you ask |
| 13:40.22 | possie | anyone that has a clue how to debug the installation of a firefox extension? cause i'm only getting an error saying "Because: cancelled" |
| 13:40.34 | azeem | dEv1L: dialog is alright |
| 13:40.34 | JoyFM | is there is posibility to downgrade gcc from 4.1 to 4.0 ? |
| 13:40.37 | petemc | dEv1L: just accept the defaults, they're generally sensible |
| 13:40.38 | nvz | I am doing pretty good it seems but still seems that its too difficult.. I dont know if its just the damn english language or if its me anymore |
| 13:41.15 | buford | nvz: if you're trying to broaden your horizons then maybe a rant about RMS isn't the best thing :) |
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| 13:41.34 | brtjohns | just wondering how i install xine, i have debian sarge installed |
| 13:41.41 | brtjohns | im to used to slackware |
| 13:41.42 | brtjohns | lol |
| 13:41.57 | azeem | brtjohns: apt-get install xine, for a first measure |
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| 13:42.06 | brtjohns | no good |
| 13:42.08 | azeem | brtjohns: apt-cache search xine to see for other possible package names |
| 13:42.15 | brtjohns | ok |
| 13:42.23 | vkat | don't forget libxine-extracode |
| 13:42.51 | vkat | for restricted formats,yesyes |
| 13:43.03 | nvz | buford: I am just trying to learn to write better my grammar is terrible the subject matter isnt important.. I am still at a low level.. I'll choose harder topics once I get the fundamentals down |
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| 13:43.31 | k31th | when doing apache vhosting seems to work fine for blah.com but not for www.blah.com |
| 13:43.47 | nvz | buford: I chose the easy subject because its the actual process and form that I need to work on most |
| 13:43.52 | petemc | k31th: does www.blah.com exist? |
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| 13:44.52 | k31th | petemc: yes |
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| 13:45.39 | petemc | k31th: you could try ServerAlias www.blah.com |
| 13:45.57 | k31th | petemc: just in the vhost section ? |
| 13:46.15 | petemc | k31th: yeah, what do you have ServerName set to? |
| 13:46.28 | Talnakh | hi guys, does anyone know a CMS for debian that allows video files management and presentation with interface like video.google.com |
| 13:46.30 | Talnakh | ? |
| 13:46.47 | k31th | petemc: blah.com |
| 13:46.50 | zinx | you mean flash crap? |
| 13:46.53 | zinx | i hope not :D |
| 13:47.00 | nvz | I am having a hell of a time with pronouns and antecendents right now.. I cant find a balance between what sounds right and what actually is right. this language is unbelievable I cant believe people communicate in this manner :P |
| 13:47.07 | buford | fair enough nvz |
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| 13:47.48 | nvz | I keep rewording stuff so much it rediculous |
| 13:47.49 | buford | ah i found how to set key rate |
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| 13:48.16 | nvz | I know what I think most of the time, but I'll be damned if I can say it right |
| 13:48.37 | petemc | k31th: set the servername to www.blah.com |
| 13:48.44 | nvz | tired of sounding less intelligent than I am |
| 13:48.57 | k31th | petemc: will it still work for blah.com if i do that ?? |
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| 13:49.10 | petemc | k31th: yeah |
| 13:49.11 | Sonderblade | where can i find a list of valid package Section specifiers? |
| 13:49.18 | k31th | ok thanks dude |
| 13:49.33 | buford | you should go battle it out on k5 to improve your eloquence nvz |
| 13:49.49 | nvz | buford: k5? |
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| 13:50.14 | buford | kuro5hin.org |
| 13:50.28 | Werdna | guys, is there an openssl-dev equivalent package? |
| 13:50.30 | nvz | never heard of it. |
| 13:50.37 | azeem | Werdna: yes |
| 13:50.53 | Werdna | azeem, name? |
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| 13:51.10 | Werdna | installing openvpn from source on debian is a fucking nightmare. |
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| 13:51.19 | azeem | Werdna: apt-cache search openssl |
| 13:51.22 | azeem | -> libssl-dev |
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| 13:51.31 | Werdna | ah. |
| 13:51.34 | Werdna | tyvm |
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| 13:52.19 | moyix | has anyone gotten evolution-exchange to work? I point it at the URL of the OWA server (webmail.mitre.org/exchange) and it just crashes... |
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| 13:53.23 | petemc | moyix: ive got it working, just not on debian.... |
| 13:53.44 | petemc | you could/should check the bts |
| 13:56.37 | benluo | hi |
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| 13:59.04 | itchi | Talnakh: I not know if there's one. But here's an list of some cms http://www.opensourcecms.com/ that you can try online |
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| 14:00.03 | dEv1L | i finished installing |
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| 14:00.06 | dEv1L | make and gcc |
| 14:00.10 | dEv1L | but i get oror now |
| 14:00.15 | dEv1L | when i make |
| 14:00.20 | dEv1L | make: *** [all] Error 1 |
| 14:00.25 | Shadur | dEv1L, please go to http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and pay careful attention to the suggestions there. It'll improve your chances of getting a useful answer. |
| 14:00.30 | azeem | dEv1L: that's not the real error |
| 14:00.31 | lunaphyte_ | what is the proper method to add static routes to a server? |
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| 14:00.42 | dEv1L | tools/convconf.c:114: error: syntax error before "FILE" |
| 14:00.48 | itchi | Talnakh: If you not find one there, but later you find one. Try to put it on the website ^^ for the next one ;-) |
| 14:00.48 | dEv1L | tools/convconf.c:118: error: `uid' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 14:00.50 | azeem | dEv1L: there you go |
| 14:00.53 | dEv1L | tools/convconf.c:141: error: `FILE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 14:01.03 | dEv1L | tools/convconf.c:141: error: `handle' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 14:01.03 | Shadur | dEv1L: Please don't flood. |
| 14:01.04 | azeem | dEv1L: this channel is not for programming help, please ask somewhere else |
| 14:01.19 | dEv1L | but the problem is at the install not at the programe |
| 14:01.29 | azeem | dEv1L: install? |
| 14:02.06 | azeem | dEv1L: what are you building anyway? |
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| 14:02.07 | dEv1L | i am trying to setpu and psybn |
| 14:02.07 | dEv1L | i am trying to setpu and psybnc |
| 14:02.07 | Shadur | And why aren't you using apt-get? |
| 14:02.07 | dEv1L | for test |
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| 14:02.57 | azeem | dEv1L: did you install all the build dependencies? |
| 14:04.25 | dEv1L | azeem yes |
| 14:04.43 | azeem | dEv1L: well, then it's either a problem in the program, or on your side |
| 14:04.49 | azeem | either way, it's off topic here |
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| 14:07.05 | k31th | guys if i use this http://pastebin.ca/73135 that should sort out cgi ok ? even im using vhosts right ? |
| 14:07.35 | k31th | (the cgi dir is in same place on every vhost) |
| 14:07.59 | brtjohns | if i want mplayer do i have to compile it all |
| 14:08.32 | kingspawn | Anyone got any insights into flipping xorgs display around 90 degrees? (For an lcd screen that you can turn) |
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| 14:10.29 | ram_einstein | Which package provides NFS tools? |
| 14:10.32 | ram_einstein | like exportfs? |
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| 14:10.55 | Yacje | wat is the command line to connect two linux hardisk on another linux system ? wat is the mount values for that ? |
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| 14:11.54 | Yacje | anyone? |
| 14:12.16 | azeem | Yacje: do you mean NFS? |
| 14:13.07 | ram_einstein | Yacje: It's only possible via NFS |
| 14:13.35 | noid | unless he means physically plugging them in |
| 14:13.38 | datrus | i'm using 4 external usb hard drives in debian. when i reboot, each drive is remapped to a different /dev/sdX. does anyone now how to fix this? i would like each drive to map to the same block file each time i reboot |
| 14:13.44 | Yacje | azeem: yes, NFS |
| 14:13.56 | Yacje | azeem: what should I do? |
| 14:14.26 | ram_einstein | Yacje: get nfs-common and read the manual |
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| 14:15.02 | SmallR2003 | hi |
| 14:15.18 | Yacje | ram: its a package? |
| 14:15.24 | ram_einstein | Yacje: yes |
| 14:15.35 | itchi | ram_einstein: It's in nfs-kernel-server |
| 14:16.04 | Yacje | ???? |
| 14:16.27 | davis | i am really strugling with debian. dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server and dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-common do not ask me any reconfig questions? What do I need to do besides reinstall my entire system to get it to ask me all installations questions for those two packages from zero? |
| 14:16.49 | ram_einstein | itchi: okay |
| 14:16.57 | ram_einstein | itchi: why not nfs-user-server? |
| 14:17.04 | itchi | davis: apt-get remove --purge <pkg> the package |
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| 14:17.45 | itchi | ram_einstein: Because i have find it on my system in nfs-kernel-server |
| 14:17.55 | Stork | how can i get data off a cd on debian? |
| 14:17.59 | itchi | ram_einstein: Look to if you know |
| 14:18.00 | Stork | command line |
| 14:18.16 | ram_einstein | itchi: Thanks. I don't know NFS either :P |
| 14:18.23 | ram_einstein | Stork: mount it |
| 14:18.32 | ram_einstein | mount /dev/hd* /mnt/foo |
| 14:18.36 | ram_einstein | and then cd /mnt/foo |
| 14:18.39 | Yacje | azeem: is it possible to create different user groups using squid, where i can give full access and Limited acess to few ips. |
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| 14:19.02 | Stork | ram_einstein, which hd is it? |
| 14:19.10 | itchi | ram_einstein: nfs-kernel-server is installed here, if i try to install the nfs-user-server he want to remove nfs-kernel-server |
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| 14:19.23 | ram_einstein | Stork: first cd drive with only one hard disk: hdc |
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| 14:19.33 | ram_einstein | itchi: I see |
| 14:19.46 | blondie | /dev/cdrom |
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| 14:19.56 | blondie | is usually a symlink to it |
| 14:20.01 | ram_einstein | I'm trying an NFS mount over a HTTP tunnel. How hard is it? |
| 14:20.02 | davis | itchi: i have tried that |
| 14:20.09 | ram_einstein | blondie: that's only if you run udev |
| 14:20.09 | Stork | ram_einstein, :( |
| 14:20.09 | Stork | c |
| 14:20.16 | blondie | ram_einstein: no it's not |
| 14:20.20 | Stork | ram_einstein, it says... |
| 14:20.27 | Stork | alex@debsrv:/dev$ sudo mount hdd /media/cdrom |
| 14:20.27 | Stork | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 14:20.32 | ram_einstein | blondie: sorry, it should be hdb then |
| 14:20.38 | blondie | blijblijblij: what? |
| 14:20.40 | ram_einstein | Stork: mount -t iso9660 |
| 14:20.40 | blondie | erm |
| 14:20.42 | blondie | WTF |
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| 14:21.03 | blondie | ram_einstein: iso9660 is autodetected... |
| 14:21.04 | Stork | ram_einstein, apparently hdd isn't a valid block device :| |
| 14:21.11 | blondie | Stork: try hdc? |
| 14:21.16 | noid | Stork: /dev/hdd |
| 14:21.25 | azeem | Yacje: ask the channel, not individuals |
| 14:21.26 | Stork | ah, done. it's hdc apparently.. |
| 14:21.28 | blondie | noid: if he's in /dev that won't matter, will it |
| 14:21.47 | noid | blondie: hmmm hadn't noticed the wd |
| 14:21.47 | itchi | blondie: You're only on #debian |
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| 14:21.50 | davis | i have even tried to dpkg-reconfigure -plow all the mysql related packages which show up in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat |
| 14:21.51 | blondie | Stork: a,b,c,d = primary master, primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave |
| 14:22.00 | blondie | itchi: what? |
| 14:22.14 | itchi | blondie: No matters, pay not attention |
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| 14:27.59 | samuel | sup all |
| 14:28.12 | samuel | my computer cant boot, all i know is that whenever I try to boot it from the HD with a rescue CD it states : "wrong FS type" and in syslog it states "wrong master superblock magic" |
| 14:28.19 | samuel | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.55 | itchi | samuel: Put an # in the begin of that line in the fstab and retry ?? |
| 14:29.58 | samuel | itchi: i cant!!! |
| 14:30.07 | samuel | cant get to the file now |
| 14:30.19 | tdn | I am getting this error in dmesg on Debian Stable: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=68. The load on the machine is ~15. Have you seen this before or know what it means? |
| 14:30.27 | samuel | cant mount using a system rescue cd |
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| 14:30.55 | fourat | how to enable snmp service on debian ? |
| 14:30.56 | tdn | I have never seen "------------[ cut here ]------------" in dmesg before. What does that mean. Is it a bug in the kernel, when it writes: kernel BUG at lib/radix-tree.c:344!? |
| 14:31.14 | itchi | samuel: Im bad with english but you're question ^^ looks strange :-/ |
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| 14:32.16 | samuel | :( any way i can run a special check on the HD? its ext3, do i just use e2fsck? |
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| 14:34.13 | fourat | hello |
| 14:34.16 | fourat | anyone help ? |
| 14:34.17 | fourat | how to enable snmp service on debian ? |
| 14:35.29 | samuel | fourat: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=snmp+debian&btnG=Google+Search |
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| 14:38.49 | stoned | !snmpd |
| 14:38.49 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, snmpd is Simple Network Management Protocol Daemon. you need to edit /etc/snmpd/snmpd.conf "access MyROSystem "" any noauth exact system none none", change 'system' under read to 'all' to get mrtg working. |
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| 14:39.32 | fourat | stoned, i've installed an snmpd |
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| 14:39.44 | fourat | but with netstat port 161 isnt open |
| 14:40.04 | stoned | I honestly have no clue mate, I don't use snmp and never have |
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| 14:41.05 | itchi | fourat: Look to the config file of it ? Try to search if there's some interesting files 'dpkg -L snmpd' |
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| 14:41.24 | samuel | fourat: check the init script and the README.Debian, they usually contain instructions if they are not enabled by default |
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| 14:42.06 | darkhunter^ | hello |
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| 14:42.32 | solemnwarning | Is anyone here using a HP Deskjet printer? |
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| 14:42.43 | Halleck | is it unusual for all the apt sources to timeout when configuring apt for the first time via base-config? I've tried a bunch of different sources.. most just time out, a few (ftp.debian.org, lyre.mit.edu) transfer about 20% of the file and then time out |
| 14:42.54 | solemnwarning | I can see the printer on lsusb, but hplip cant find the printer, any ideas? |
| 14:43.48 | itchi | solemnwarning: Yes, an 3550 |
| 14:43.59 | solemnwarning | I have a 3845 |
| 14:44.09 | itchi | solemnwarning: Nice :-p |
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| 14:44.17 | solemnwarning | It was working, but I reinstalled my lan server and I cant get hplip to find the printer |
| 14:44.18 | itchi | solemnwarning: Already installed ? |
| 14:44.31 | stoned | I dunno what hplip is |
| 14:44.41 | solemnwarning | The HP driver |
| 14:44.45 | stoned | but I have one HP printer, psr series |
| 14:44.53 | stoned | I thought it was hpoj/hpijs |
| 14:45.14 | Flash_ | I've used several deskjets with cups, solemnwarning, but only lpt |
| 14:45.17 | stoned | well at lesat it was in the days of sarge/testing when I actually had that printer hooked up |
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| 14:45.35 | solemnwarning | hpoj is for officejet printers |
| 14:45.48 | stoned | ahh yes, thats the one I have |
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| 14:46.03 | itchi | stoned: Me to |
| 14:46.24 | stoned | heh, learn somethin' every day |
| 14:46.30 | itchi | solemnwarning: Is it an usb one ? |
| 14:46.36 | solemnwarning | Yeah |
| 14:47.19 | hume | hi..i got problems with installation iso:s, testing netinst and stable businesscard. I burn cd:s but they wont boot. anyone got any ideas? |
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| 14:47.40 | itchi | solemnwarning: usb is been working ? No troubles with it ? |
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| 14:48.07 | solemnwarning | Hmmm |
| 14:48.12 | solemnwarning | I just noticed somthing |
| 14:48.20 | itchi | hume: Howe have you burn it? Know you what an iso images is an how to proceed to burn it ? |
| 14:48.24 | solemnwarning | I didnt compile my kernel with USB printer support |
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| 14:48.34 | Halleck | hume: it could be a problem with the way you burned it, or with the way your BIOS is configured |
| 14:48.47 | stoned | I use k3b fot my burning needs |
| 14:49.06 | Spec | So....this debian comp has been running fine for a while, all of a sudden today (6 days of uptime), I get this when I: ls /dev |
| 14:49.12 | Spec | ls: reading directory .: Input/output error |
| 14:49.16 | itchi | !beer solemnwarning |
| 14:49.23 | stoned | oooohh, badblocks maybe |
| 14:49.30 | Spec | so, e2fsck? |
| 14:49.35 | itchi | solemnwarning: That's good, but take not to many of :-p |
| 14:49.52 | Spec | It's on a virtual harddrive, as well (vmware server) |
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| 14:50.32 | itchi | Spec: A virtual computer ? |
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| 14:50.38 | Spec | yeap |
| 14:50.50 | itchi | Spec: Some troubles with the mouse ? |
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| 14:51.05 | Halleck | so anybody know what's up with these apt timeouts? I can transfer files from these servers ok using plain FTP/HTTP, but apt keeps screwing up... kind of sucks since I'm using a netinstall |
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| 14:51.15 | Spec | itchi: no X |
| 14:51.23 | solemnwarning | Yep, kernel needed USB printer support |
| 14:51.34 | solemnwarning | Note to self: Do not build kernels at 2AM |
| 14:51.40 | itchi | solemnwarning: Not if you not need usb :-) |
| 14:51.42 | blondie | s/at 2AM// |
| 14:51.51 | solemnwarning | :| |
| 14:51.52 | Spec | haha |
| 14:51.53 | itchi | solemnwarning: But in you're case ... ;-) |
| 14:51.59 | blondie | itchi: your |
| 14:52.16 | itchi | blondie: It's complicated :-/ |
| 14:52.18 | stoned | my back hurts |
| 14:52.33 | Spec | so, any particular reason only "/dev" gives my "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error"? |
| 14:52.35 | itchi | blondie: But really thanks to correct my :-) |
| 14:52.42 | stoned | donate money to the poor man's new chair fund please |
| 14:52.45 | stoned | :( |
| 14:52.48 | blondie | itchi: "thanks for correcting me" ;0 |
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| 14:53.08 | itchi | blondie: It's very complicated :-/ |
| 14:53.11 | Spec | hehe |
| 14:53.15 | stoned | if 20 people donate a dollar, I can get a new chair |
| 14:53.16 | linuxmonkey | anyknow of a good howto for apache,php.mysql. |
| 14:53.17 | stoned | :D |
| 14:53.26 | blondie | solemnwarning: you think you wouldn't get caught in the blast? |
| 14:53.32 | itchi | stoned: Here an euro :-) |
| 14:53.40 | stoned | hey cool, 2 bucks |
| 14:53.49 | stoned | now i need 18 more usd |
| 14:54.24 | solemnwarning | Dammit! |
| 14:54.29 | itchi | Spec: It's only in that dir you get it ? |
| 14:54.33 | solemnwarning | I knew there was a flaw _SOMEWHERE_ in my plan >.< |
| 14:55.00 | itchi | !nowar |
| 14:55.02 | Spec | itchi: yeap |
| 14:55.07 | itchi | bbbrrr dpkg |
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| 14:55.42 | itchi | Spec: I not know. Check the filesystem ? |
| 14:55.58 | itchi | !peace and love |
| 14:56.02 | itchi | bbbrrr dpkg |
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| 14:56.08 | abrotman | linuxmonkey: to do what? |
| 14:56.11 | itchi | stupid bot :-p |
| 14:56.48 | itchi | linuxmonkey: You need to look to 'lamp' |
| 14:57.11 | linuxmonkey | well i need to installl apache, php and mysql to start with and its on a bare system |
| 14:57.11 | itchi | oh i know somethings ... |
| 14:57.16 | itchi | !champagne everyone |
| 14:57.22 | itchi | bbbrrr dpkg |
| 14:57.28 | itchi | dpkg hate me |
| 14:57.34 | itchi | hehe |
| 14:58.20 | abrotman | linuxmonkey: apache1 or 2? |
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| 14:58.24 | benluo | who install debian in usb stick? |
| 14:58.39 | linuxmonkey | itchi: yeah preaty much, just looking for a site with a how-to to make sure i dont miss anything...lol |
| 14:58.51 | itchi | !tldp |
| 14:58.51 | dpkg | hmm... tldp is The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org |
| 14:58.54 | benluo | i can not make usb stick boot |
| 14:58.58 | avds | how do I determine kernel-level cpu load? |
| 14:59.06 | linuxmonkey | abrotman: apache2 |
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| 15:03.39 | ricky_clarkson | My main app menu in Gnome flickers ridiculously and is unusable. I'm upgrading gnome now, then gonna restart X, hopefully that fixes it. |
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| 15:04.16 | itchi | linux2: http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/apache2 ?? |
| 15:04.21 | itchi | oeps |
| 15:04.26 | itchi | linuxmonkey: http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/apache2 ?? |
| 15:05.17 | vkat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:05.24 | gnd | hi |
| 15:05.26 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.38 | itchi | 2 spaces works |
| 15:05.50 | itchi | gnd: hello |
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| 15:06.42 | linuxmonkey | itchi: i tried the one at howtoforge but keep getting errors |
| 15:06.52 | gnd | I'm trynig to mount a usb HD but I keep getting the wrong fs type error |
| 15:07.08 | itchi | linuxmonkey: Which errors ? |
| 15:07.23 | itchi | apt-get install crystalball :-) |
| 15:07.33 | itchi | magie magie |
| 15:07.55 | linuxmonkey | oh now its working...damn sources.list |
| 15:08.03 | linuxmonkey | lol |
| 15:08.05 | abrotman | linuxmonkey: apt-get install libapache2-modphp4 mysql-server php4-mysql |
| 15:08.19 | abrotman | assuming you want the server on the same box |
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| 15:08.55 | gnd | it's a big fat32 partition |
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| 15:09.03 | linuxmonkey | yeah abrotman |
| 15:09.09 | gnd | I'm using the -t vfat option but it still doesn't work |
| 15:09.13 | abrotman | linuxmonkey: that should get you going |
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| 15:10.21 | itchi | gnd: Is the vfat module loaded ? lsmod | grep vfat |
| 15:10.29 | linuxmonkey | yep thanx. i got it now, my source server i gess wasnt working lastnight |
| 15:10.46 | gnd | I think it is since I see my other vfat partitions fine |
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| 15:11.24 | gnd | I see this in dmesg: FAT: invalid media value (0x01) VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda |
| 15:11.34 | gnd | any ideas? |
| 15:11.51 | itchi | gnd: fat module loaded ? |
| 15:12.19 | itchi | gnd: There is fat and vfat |
| 15:12.29 | gnd | I think I have vfat compiled into the kernel |
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| 15:12.34 | gnd | not sure about the fat |
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| 15:12.45 | gnd | but the hd is a 160GB fat32 partition |
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| 15:13.22 | itchi | gnd: I not more know many about /m$/ partitions :-/ look to if the 2 modules are loaded ?? |
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| 15:13.45 | gnd | ok, I'll check that |
| 15:14.48 | fimbulvetr_ | avds: try dstat |
| 15:14.55 | gnd | ok, last time I was compiling my kernel I had the CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y |
| 15:15.14 | gnd | so I should have support for fat |
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| 15:16.52 | itchi | gnd: less /proc/partition What show it ? |
| 15:17.05 | itchi | gnd: You see that sdx ? |
| 15:17.55 | gnd | I don't even have /proc/partition |
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| 15:18.17 | itchi | gnd: Sorry it's less /proc/partitions |
| 15:18.22 | gnd | sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 |
| 15:18.37 | gnd | I see sda and sda1 |
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| 15:19.15 | itchi | gnd: Which command use you exactly ? |
| 15:19.23 | itchi | gnd: I mean to mount |
| 15:19.37 | gnd | mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mountpoint |
| 15:20.03 | itchi | gnd: It's /dev/sda1 ?? |
| 15:20.17 | gnd | same error if I use sda1 |
| 15:20.31 | samuel | ive checked all the backup superblocks on the ext3 fs... no luck, anything else I may do to recover files? |
| 15:20.32 | itchi | gnd: Compare with /proc/partitions |
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| 15:21.21 | gnd | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.30 | gnd | this is the less /proc/partitions |
| 15:21.37 | itchi | gnd: Have you already an entry in fstab about sda1 ? |
| 15:21.44 | gnd | yes |
| 15:21.50 | gnd | sda and sda1 |
| 15:21.54 | gnd | both vfat |
| 15:22.14 | gnd | but since it automatically didn't work I started trying it manually |
| 15:22.24 | gnd | which is where I'm stuck now |
| 15:22.34 | avds | fimbulvetr, thanks |
| 15:22.34 | gnd | works fine on a OSX |
| 15:22.34 | itchi | gnd: Uncomment that line in fstab and try again |
| 15:22.42 | gnd | it's not commented |
| 15:22.46 | itchi | ^^ that looks familiar ^^ |
| 15:23.10 | itchi | gnd: Put there an #before the line |
| 15:23.16 | gnd | ok |
| 15:23.55 | gnd | same thing |
| 15:24.14 | itchi | gnd: Sure everythings right with the key ? |
| 15:24.24 | gnd | what key? |
| 15:24.38 | itchi | gnd: That usb |
| 15:24.45 | gnd | it's a 160GB SUB HD |
| 15:24.54 | gnd | it works fine on a OSX |
| 15:24.59 | itchi | gnd: Same case :-p |
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| 15:25.33 | gnd | I just brought it over from the other room since I didn't want to transfer stuff over wireless |
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| 15:26.16 | snd-ca0106 | hi |
| 15:26.44 | snd-ca0106 | i've a notebook and i wanna know if there's a tool to exacty know battery level |
| 15:26.50 | snd-ca0106 | not just if it's full or empty |
| 15:27.40 | vkat | find /proc -name "?attery" |
| 15:27.49 | vkat | i think it's /proc/ACPI/Battery/ |
| 15:27.53 | Eulex | snd-ca0106, acpi -V |
| 15:27.55 | petemc | snd-ca0106: there are a few applets |
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| 15:28.20 | Eulex | $ acpi -V |
| 15:28.20 | Eulex | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.35 | Eulex | ...along with some other stuff |
| 15:28.40 | vkat | snd-ca0106: the full file that just does'nt outputs percent is found in /proc.. |
| 15:28.59 | vkat | yah OK |
| 15:29.18 | itchi | gnd: In the /proc/partitions i have 8 0 1018880 sda |
| 15:29.34 | gnd | I have almost the same |
| 15:29.42 | gnd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:30.04 | itchi | gnd: And to mount it i id 'mount /dev/sda /mnt/usb' |
| 15:30.11 | itchi | oela |
| 15:30.24 | itchi | s/i id/i do |
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| 15:30.44 | Eulex | itchi, umh... you mount a partition, not the whole volume. that is, sda1, sda2 etc |
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| 15:31.14 | snd-ca0106 | says nothing about battery just cpu temp and ac adptr off |
| 15:31.17 | itchi | Eulex: Yeah, right, im so crazy to have make 2 partions on it :-/ |
| 15:32.18 | itchi | Eulex: And that other i have messed up the last time, after doing some experiences with that fucking $M, that have kill one :-/ |
| 15:32.37 | Eulex | itchi, eh? those were just examples of names... to show that you need a partition number after sda. and that is regardless if you have just one partition or more of them. |
| 15:32.40 | itchi | Eulex: It's to support ^^ gnd |
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| 15:33.45 | itchi | Eulex: It's an usb key- with dsl on it, + shared partition for M$ and another with music :-) |
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| 15:34.01 | gnd | Eulex: I'm trying to mount a usb hd and I keep getting errors about wrong fs type. the HD is a 160GB fat32 |
| 15:34.17 | samuel | ok... so ive lost the superblock and all backup blocks for some weird alien intervention reason in my /home partition... is there any way to recover this stuff? |
| 15:34.19 | gnd | it does get recognized by usb, it shows up in /proc/partitions |
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| 15:34.24 | macly | If I set up an rsync mirror on one system, and just do an mv of the directory to another system, rsync should grok and not redownload everything right? |
| 15:34.32 | macly | an rsync mirror of debian |
| 15:34.34 | itchi | Eulex: gnd have some troubles to get his usb hdd working. I have quick take my usb key, to try to support him |
| 15:34.58 | macly | i.e. not download everything the next time anonftpsync is run |
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| 15:36.16 | Szczepan | My mobile phone number - +48692513441 !! please call for me!! :) |
| 15:36.34 | stoned | wtf |
| 15:36.44 | blondie | why? |
| 15:36.48 | itchi | Szczepan: Give you me *many* money :-) :-) |
| 15:37.00 | stoned | it probably isn't his number of course |
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| 15:37.07 | ktwilight | ... |
| 15:37.08 | Szczepan | itchi: :) |
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| 15:38.28 | Szczepan | stoned |
| 15:38.35 | Szczepan | it's MY NUMBER |
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| 15:38.51 | Szczepan | call on me and i write you number here |
| 15:39.22 | Eulex | gnd, ok. could you pastebin the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda? |
| 15:39.40 | itchi | Szczepan: If you want there is ##icf |
| 15:39.54 | samuel | stoned: probably a 5 year old who just got skype/gizmo and thinks its cool to have a 12,000 person contact list |
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| 15:40.47 | macly | wow, gotta love inet2! |
| 15:41.14 | itchi | Eulex: BTW, know you an nice hack to clean completely my messed usb-storage |
| 15:41.47 | Szczepan | call for me :) +48 692 513 441 |
| 15:41.57 | Eulex | itchi, clear it completely? you could try dd |
| 15:42.21 | itchi | !ops Szczepan want to meet you, he give his phone number and cry that we need to call him |
| 15:42.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: itchi complains about: Szczepan want to meet you, he give his phone number and cry that we need to call him |
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| 15:42.40 | itchi | Eulex: hhhm, yeah :-) with dd |
| 15:42.57 | azeem | Szczepan: this is a support channel, not a room to make friends |
| 15:43.02 | LoRez | Szczepan: looking for some scratch? |
| 15:43.04 | Szczepan | btw |
| 15:43.34 | itchi | Eulex: I have less experiences with dd, time i play with that. Like that usb-key are messed, no special data on it. I can go directly |
| 15:44.11 | dpm | I've got a question about the win32 codecs at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/. Is it legal to put them on the net? |
| 15:44.19 | Eulex | itchi, I don't think you even need to use dd, you could prolly just cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda or something |
| 15:44.34 | itchi | dpm: Depending of your country i think |
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| 15:45.08 | itchi | Eulex: I try it, is it right ^^ ? |
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| 15:45.33 | Eulex | itchi, I think so. if it doesn't work, check man dd |
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| 15:45.49 | itchi | Eulex: Right ;-) like, it's already messed ;-) |
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| 15:46.23 | dpm | itchi: that would be if I want to use them, but I mean the fact that are on the net. Will the guy who put them there not run into legal issues? He's basically making win32 binaries available to the world for free. |
| 15:46.33 | Maulkin | grr... |
| 15:46.37 | Maulkin | Screw it. |
| 15:46.43 | Maulkin | If they come back, shout again |
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| 15:48.02 | itchi | Maulkin: sandamia@62.148.81.66 |
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| 15:48.49 | Maulkin | ta itchi |
| 15:48.49 | gnd | Eulex: where do you want me to paste that output? |
| 15:48.59 | itchi | dpm: In usa guns are legal i think, here realy not for example |
| 15:49.16 | dpm | its not really the same is it? |
| 15:49.33 | gnd | eulex: /dev/sda1 1 19929 160079661 af Unknown |
| 15:49.36 | itchi | Maulkin: I'm so bad with english, wath mean ta? my translator not know it :-/ |
| 15:49.52 | Maulkin | itchi: ta == thank you |
| 15:49.59 | itchi | Maulkin: ;-) |
| 15:50.10 | Wanderer | hmm, anyone know how to set the browser identification in the current Dapper version of firefox? |
| 15:50.22 | Maulkin | Wanderer: Ask in #ubuntu |
| 15:50.25 | Wanderer | just went through all the options and I don't see it |
| 15:50.37 | Wanderer | damn, sorry Maulkin, thought I was. got my windows backwards |
| 15:50.41 | Maulkin | :) |
| 15:51.06 | Eulex | gnd, for example pastebin.com |
| 15:51.25 | dpm | itchi: I'm not asking if it is legal to *use* them. I *know* it is not in some countries. What I'm curious about is the fact that someone put them on the net and that there are apparently no legal issues with that. |
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| 15:52.30 | itchi | dpm: I had understand ;-) Yes, it's look's like it's not remove. I think some countries permit it :-/ |
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| 15:52.51 | itchi | ggrr, my spahetti english :-) |
| 15:52.53 | Eulex | gnd, that partition you pasted above has a completely unknown filesystem type (af), I can't find it anywhere |
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| 15:54.35 | gnd | Eulex: weird |
| 15:54.53 | gnd | Eulex: it's this HD: http://www.edgetechcorp.com/storage/usb-hard-drive.asp |
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| 15:55.29 | Eulex | gnd, I'd go inte cfdisk and change the filesystem type of it, then format it |
| 15:55.38 | Eulex | (if there's nothing valuable on it, that is) |
| 15:55.46 | gnd | Eulex: there is data on it that I need |
| 15:56.31 | Eulex | gnd, hmm, ok. there's just one partition, right? |
| 15:57.12 | Mithenks | can i restore a partition table of a running disk, in the case some program have alter it? |
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| 15:57.56 | kaiSVK | hi all :) |
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| 15:58.21 | alexander | hello |
| 15:58.21 | Blissex | Mithenks: yes. |
| 15:58.27 | Mithenks | fdisk ? |
| 15:58.44 | alexander | how can i mount /dev/Debian/root while using a rescue CD? |
| 15:58.51 | kaiSVK | I am installing Debian once again, hope that I will be able to make my ati card up and running with 3D support :) |
| 15:58.51 | alexander | its lvm |
| 16:00.20 | Mithenks | Blissex: how? |
| 16:01.41 | Blissex | Mithenks: the partition table is just a block of data, you can write and rewrite it whenever you want. |
| 16:01.58 | Blissex | Mithenks: you can then use 'hdparm -z' to tell the kernel it has changed. |
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| 16:02.41 | itchi | kaiSVK: Which card model ? |
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| 16:02.43 | Mithenks | yes, i know, but the kernel or the os himself save a backup of the partition table when the os boot? |
| 16:02.51 | kaiSVK | itchi, X200 |
| 16:02.57 | yos87 | Hi |
| 16:03.17 | kaiSVK | itchi, the problem last time was that the ati driver package needed higher version of Xorg ... |
| 16:03.34 | itchi | kaiSVK: On Sarge ? |
| 16:03.49 | kaiSVK | itchi, etch ;) |
| 16:03.52 | yos87 | How to access folder in debian from windows computer in the workgroup? ftp for example? |
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| 16:03.59 | beefcake | smb |
| 16:04.02 | beefcake | samba owns |
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| 16:04.23 | yos87 | beefcake: I install samba, What else I do? |
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| 16:04.51 | itchi | kaiSVK: On etch i not really know how to, i need to do the job done here on my Etch ;-) I'm so lazy :-) |
| 16:05.33 | kaiSVK | itchi, I would like just to ask ... it is theoretically possible to install newer Xorg for example from sid ... to my installation of etch ? |
| 16:05.56 | itchi | kaiSVK: I terminate to repair my messed usb-key, eat a bit, and try to :-) |
| 16:05.57 | valdyn | kaiSVK: etch has xorg7, that is the latest, your issue really is something else |
| 16:06.14 | itchi | kaiSVK: I not know |
| 16:06.29 | kaiSVK | valdyn, ok ... when I will be doing installing of ati proprietary drivers can I ask here ? |
| 16:06.38 | yos87 | how to use samba to share a folder? |
| 16:07.12 | beefcake | man samba |
| 16:07.14 | valdyn | yos87: you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and restart samba |
| 16:07.18 | itchi | ooogh gparted :-) |
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| 16:07.54 | valdyn | kaiSVK: sure |
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| 16:08.38 | kaiSVK | valdyn, cause some people here told me that I will be not given ANY support If I am using etch or sid ... :( |
| 16:09.51 | valdyn | kaiSVK: they are doing this exaggeration for your own good, probably |
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| 16:10.15 | darkhunt1r^ | hello |
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| 16:12.16 | itchi | hhhmmm gparted in Etch, nice nice nice |
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| 16:13.39 | itchi | That's a big step forward |
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| 16:13.54 | yos87 | valdyn: I have to read smb.conf man page, and it's 6000 line, I don't need much function, I want to share only one folder! |
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| 16:14.25 | itchi | brb, eat time |
| 16:15.09 | kaiSVK | valdyn, hmm ... I dont think so ... I am not so new to linux I can get some thing myself ... but I think all distributions are someking specific ... so telling me that I will have no support from testing version is for me "pushing the people from debian" ;) |
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| 16:16.11 | jetscreamer | testing, beta... beta2..whatever |
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| 16:20.50 | Mithenks | anyone know the format of /proc/diskstats ? |
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| 16:22.04 | linux__alien | hello dpkg |
| 16:22.53 | xwind_ | hi. when u ping a domain name, it right away gets the ip address and then statistics are generated for the ip. question: which dns is consulted by the ping to obtain the ip of the domain name? |
| 16:23.19 | linux__alien | xwind_, your ISP's DNS Server |
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| 16:23.52 | Mithenks | xwind_: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 16:25.49 | xwind_ | hmmm ... i did a dig and nslookup on my ISP's dns and they all got the correct ip. A ping from my vps gives and incorrect ip. The puzzling thing is that a ping from my home computer gives the correct ip. Will open resolv.conf, perhaps the mystery is in there. |
| 16:25.55 | Halleck | one last question... is there a way I can see the contents of a "pre-rolled software configuration" without installing it? Sorry, I couldn't find this information in the documentation. |
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| 16:33.06 | xwind_ | Mithenks: resolv.conf does have the old nameservers listed, i commented them all out and then inserted the correct nameservers. Any other thing to do? The ping at the vps still gives the wrong ip. |
| 16:34.26 | xwind_ | There is no more bind running in the vps by the way. |
| 16:35.02 | xwind_ | do i need to reboot after changing resolv.conf? |
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| 16:37.49 | xwind_ | rebooting vps |
| 16:38.07 | simonrvn | no |
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| 16:38.48 | kaiSVK | how can I set the installation repos ? for multimedia and all the needed stuff pls ? |
| 16:39.00 | Halleck | bleh. |
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| 16:40.15 | simonrvn | kaiSVK: "installation repos"? |
| 16:40.15 | xwind_ | same result, ping still uses a wrong ip for the domain name. :( |
| 16:40.29 | simonrvn | !wayttd kaiSVK |
| 16:40.29 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, kaiSVK? |
| 16:40.41 | RvGaTe | For some reason, it still cannot find nvidia-kernel-common, not in sarge, not in etch, not in sid... what am i missing here? |
| 16:41.00 | ktwilight | *pats RvGaTe* |
| 16:41.02 | simonrvn | xwind_: you do know ping accepts names or IPs, right? |
| 16:41.09 | xwind_ | i do. |
| 16:41.15 | simonrvn | RvGaTe: non-free and contrib? |
| 16:41.20 | ktwilight | RvGaTe, check the sources.list |
| 16:41.22 | simonrvn | ok, just checking :) |
| 16:41.25 | RvGaTe | simonrvn, whoops, forgot that i think :P |
| 16:41.26 | kaiSVK | simonrvn, trying to install mp3, divx, xvid, support flash plugin, java plugin, MS fonts etc :) |
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| 16:41.44 | simonrvn | !tell kaiSVK about non-free |
| 16:41.59 | simonrvn | some of that is in main, but others are in non-free |
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| 16:43.14 | xwind_ | btw, the wrong ip that is being used by ping is the ip that was assigned by my vps host and which was recently changed. |
| 16:44.04 | RvGaTe | Yes, finaly, after a whole f*cking weekend, i managed to install the nvidia drivers :P altho im scared to reboot and test them out... last time i did that, it crashed my xserver, lol |
| 16:44.55 | xwind_ | thus, i do suspect that ping uses my vps host's dns to resolve the ip of the domain name. This should not be, right? It should use the dns that I have set at the registrar. |
| 16:45.11 | kaiSVK | simonrvn, what about mplayer and its codecs ? |
| 16:45.28 | simonrvn | !tell kaiSVK about marillat |
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| 16:45.56 | kaiSVK | simonrvn, yeah ... marillat ;) that was the thing I frogot from the last time :) |
| 16:46.56 | xwind_ | and to complicate things, even if ping uses the dns of the vps host, it should give a different ip than the one it presently uses. |
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| 16:48.06 | aalex | hi. Do you guys know what a standard vim install - plus the doc and _syntax files_ have as packages ? |
| 16:48.39 | simonrvn | !tell aalex about search |
| 16:48.49 | xwind_ | i am just laughing at this, i wonder if giving it a few days will allow things to heal itself. But it surely is a challenge for the creative minds. |
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| 16:51.37 | kaiSVK | simonrvn, thanx for help :) |
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| 16:53.19 | yos87 | How to make ftp server? |
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| 16:53.44 | blondie | lollipops |
| 16:54.04 | peterS | tarzeau: debconf photos? the only thing I have is the main group photo, imagemap-annotated to give people's names. it's not very good, it's a cgi thing I threw together in a few hours. last year's version is better but I never found the time to steal their code |
| 16:54.14 | peterS | tarzeau: http://p12n.org/cgi/dc6group/index |
| 16:54.32 | weggpod | someone have use yet pam-mysql and libnss-mysql ? |
| 16:54.49 | xwind_ | people, i solved the ping ip mystery. |
| 16:54.53 | xwind_ | :) |
| 16:55.01 | tarzeau | peterS: can i use them for http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ ? |
| 16:55.05 | xwind_ | it was in /etc/hosts |
| 16:55.08 | xwind_ | :) |
| 16:55.21 | tarzeau | peterS: i'd need the photos named like say peters@email.org.png |
| 16:55.26 | yos87 | peterS: how are you? |
| 16:55.30 | peterS | tarzeau: I don't mind what you use them for |
| 16:55.46 | yos87 | ! ftp server |
| 16:55.47 | tarzeau | peterS: can i get the photos with lftp or something without individually clicking each of them? |
| 16:55.52 | peterS | tarzeau: the data files and thumbnails are at http://p12n.org/dc6group/ if you want to do some data extraction |
| 16:56.13 | tarzeau | peterS: ahhh names.txt was what i wanted |
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| 16:56.59 | peterS | tarzeau: the jpegs in thumbs/ are just 120x120 squares extracted automatically from the original 3474-pixel image from gallery.debconf.org, using my imagemap coords |
| 16:57.21 | tarzeau | peterS: great, i'll resize them for 128x128 that's fine |
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| 16:57.37 | yos87 | peterS: ! |
| 16:57.42 | peterS | hey yos87 |
| 16:58.02 | peterS | tarzeau: I created the imagemap using circles of radius 60, then used the centers of those circles in a script with 'convert -crop' |
| 16:58.07 | yos87 | peterS: Why ignore ! Just wanna say hi ! |
| 16:58.22 | xwind_ | Mithenks: thanks a lot for leading me to it. |
| 16:58.27 | peterS | yos87: well, I was in the middle of giving information to tarzeau. I can only type so fast |
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| 16:59.06 | yos87 | peterS: Type faster next time (: |
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| 16:59.08 | ricky_clarkson | peterS: I found Joey Hess without even knowing what he looked like. ;) |
| 16:59.15 | peterS | ricky_clarkson: hehe |
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| 16:59.54 | ricky_clarkson | Blars Blarson - I like that guy based on his name and picture. |
| 17:00.11 | ricky_clarkson | Just west of Hess. |
| 17:00.12 | peterS | tarzeau: oh btw, the cgi just appends new entries to names.txt, doesn't remove old entries. I garbage-collect it manually with a script, on occasion. so later entries should override earlier ones |
| 17:00.25 | peterS | ricky_clarkson: heh, yeah, his real name is Bob Larson but he goes by 'Blars'. I like him too |
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| 17:01.47 | peterS | ricky_clarkson: peterS is near the west end, in dark blue shirt |
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| 17:02.45 | peterS | heh |
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| 17:04.08 | samuel | hello all |
| 17:04.37 | peterS | ricky_clarkson: Yuri Vasilevski, near right edge, white shirt with blue stripes? Gentoo developer who had the gall to show up at debconf (: tell me you'd meet _him_ on a dark night |
| 17:05.33 | samuel | okok, i cant boot my system for some reason... i am using sysrescuecd.org cd. how can i mount my lvm disks so i can backup docs just in case? |
| 17:06.12 | samuel | the volume group reads /dev/Debian/home, but i cant mount that, its stated as "incative" |
| 17:06.30 | peterS | samuel: 'vgchange -ay' will make it active |
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| 17:07.15 | sgeigerbot | HELP! ALL OF MY DRIVE LETTERS HAVE DISAPPEARED! |
| 17:07.45 | peterS | sgeigerbot: all your drive letters are belong to us |
| 17:07.55 | itchi | sgeigerbot: Dont PANIC we not use drive letters :-p |
| 17:07.58 | samuel | peterS: thanks SO MUCH!!! i didnt even know there was such a thing as lvm this morning!!! |
| 17:08.02 | samuel | :) |
| 17:08.03 | peterS | samuel: heh |
| 17:08.10 | sgeigerbot | peterS: Give them back! |
| 17:08.17 | peterS | WHAT YOU SAY !! |
| 17:08.37 | tarzeau | peterS: ok thank you |
| 17:08.38 | Maulkin | sgeigerbot: a) Please don't type in capitals. b) Debian doesn't use drive letters c) What are you trying to do? |
| 17:08.41 | itchi | sgeigerbot: Try to look to 'less /proc/partitions' |
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| 17:08.44 | tarzeau | sgeigerbot: hehe |
| 17:08.53 | peterS | Maulkin: he's an old regular here, just trying to stir things up a bit |
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| 17:09.01 | anabain | where is the config file if I have made make menuconfig in a linux-source-2.6.17/ dir? |
| 17:09.11 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 17:09.16 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:09.16 | Maulkin | Ahh, fair enough. I thought I recognised the nick from somewhere, but wasn't sure :) |
| 17:11.05 | peterS | itchi: pour me a cup too, would you? |
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| 17:11.39 | itchi | peterS: Pour moi aussi une tasse de caffee, veut-tu ? ;-) |
| 17:11.43 | RvGaTe | how can i verify that my nvidia drivers are loaded and working correctly? |
| 17:11.59 | peterS | itchi: no no, pour is a verb, not a preposition (: |
| 17:12.05 | tarzeau | RvGaTe: startx and run brutalchess |
| 17:12.13 | tarzeau | RvGaTe: lsmod shows nvidia and used? |
| 17:12.19 | kementeus | hello everybody, I just want to configure my debian stable to use multiple distro versions as explained in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html, but when I add APT::Default-Release "stable"; in the file apt-setup says that there are erros in apt.conf |
| 17:12.23 | kementeus | any idea what's happening? |
| 17:12.36 | itchi | peterS: Oeps it was thinking ... ;-) |
| 17:12.56 | RvGaTe | tarzeau, gives me nvidia 4546132 0 |
| 17:13.09 | kementeus | sorry for the question, i found my error |
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| 17:14.49 | Eulex | how come I can't specify a script as interpreter for a file with a she-bang? |
| 17:15.11 | tarzeau | Eulex: how? |
| 17:15.15 | peterS | Eulex: that'll be a kernel limitation, I guess |
| 17:15.17 | RvGaTe | tarzeau, does that mean its loaded ? |
| 17:15.27 | tarzeau | RvGaTe: the number should be something else but 0 |
| 17:15.34 | RvGaTe | hmm |
| 17:15.39 | peterS | Eulex: hack the kernel source file binfmt_script.c to allow recursion, if you want, I suppose |
| 17:15.40 | RvGaTe | let me go reboot |
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| 17:17.09 | Eulex | tarzeau, I put #!/usr/bin/exu (which is an executable script) at the top of a file, but it tries to execute the file as a shell script when I do ./filename. it works very well if I specify an executable as interpreter. |
| 17:17.22 | Eulex | peterS, hmm, ok |
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| 17:17.34 | DevilChaos | hi all |
| 17:17.35 | Ozux | In dpkg -l | more .... i see some pacjages are rc mark, so they are removed compeletly or not? |
| 17:18.08 | peterS | Ozux: removed but configuration files, if any, are still there. you can 'dpkg --purge' those packages if you know you'll never want to install them again with their original configuration still present |
| 17:18.27 | DevilChaos | i have a few problems my screen font judders in console for some reason any help with this also got a funny warning message |
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| 17:19.35 | itchi | tarzeau: Is it possible that RvGaTe need to reload the module ? |
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| 17:20.09 | Ozux | peterS: TNX, |
| 17:21.15 | RvGaTe | i guess they're not loaded |
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| 17:21.45 | itchi | RvGaTe: It's loaded |
| 17:22.00 | itchi | RvGaTe: Not used, it's looks |
| 17:22.18 | RvGaTe | but i cant startup brutalchess |
| 17:22.31 | itchi | RvGaTe: What say he ? |
| 17:22.46 | RvGaTe | Video mode set failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual |
| 17:23.06 | itchi | RvGaTe: Xorg? |
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| 17:23.15 | RvGaTe | yes |
| 17:23.17 | gigabytes | hello |
| 17:23.25 | gigabytes | I've a strange problem with the sarge installer |
| 17:23.32 | gigabytes | on an old laptop PC |
| 17:23.37 | gigabytes | a pentium 250 Mhz |
| 17:23.58 | gigabytes | with maybe an error-prone cd-rom drive |
| 17:24.05 | gigabytes | the installer boots |
| 17:24.12 | itchi | RvGaTe: In the /etc/X/xorg.conf you need to have an line Load "glx" in the Section "Module" |
| 17:24.14 | gigabytes | it mounts the cdrom |
| 17:24.19 | gigabytes | loads the kernel modules |
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| 17:24.34 | gigabytes | and then it tries to recognize the installation cd |
| 17:24.44 | gigabytes | and it hangs up for a lot of minutes |
| 17:24.47 | RvGaTe | itchi, i have it in: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and the line is there |
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| 17:24.59 | gigabytes | after that it says me that it founds the sarge cd rom and everything seems ok |
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| 17:25.09 | gigabytes | but then it tells me that it cannot find a file |
| 17:25.11 | gigabytes | and it stops |
| 17:25.14 | itchi | RvGaTe: And an line with 'dri' ? |
| 17:25.18 | gigabytes | if I look in the debug tty |
| 17:25.33 | gigabytes | i see that it cannot find the /cdrom/dists//Relase file |
| 17:25.38 | gigabytes | i notive the double slash |
| 17:25.42 | gigabytes | notice |
| 17:25.44 | RvGaTe | itchi, commented out (# before it) |
| 17:25.47 | peterS | gigabytes: the double slash isn't a problem |
| 17:25.50 | xota | hi! somebody can give me a good etch sources.list? |
| 17:26.04 | itchi | RvGaTe: Uncomment it. If x server crash, you know why ;-) |
| 17:26.14 | xota | i need webmin but with the default sources.list added non-free and contrig don't have it |
| 17:26.16 | gigabytes | peterS: yes it is... because between those slashes there should be the "sarge" name |
| 17:26.20 | gigabytes | sarge testing or unstable |
| 17:26.22 | Ozux | Any body are here that installed ISPConfig? |
| 17:26.26 | gigabytes | with are links to sarge itself |
| 17:26.27 | philips | startx runs fine as root, fails for normal user (unstable) Any suggestions? (Startx seems to launch X but then dies soon after) |
| 17:26.33 | RvGaTe | itchi, why should i umcomment it, i you already know its gonna crash |
| 17:26.36 | gigabytes | peterS: there isn't any Release file in /cdrom/dists |
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| 17:26.39 | peterS | gigabytes: oh, true, that's odd |
| 17:26.43 | itchi | RvGaTe: Can you use 'irssi' the irc client in cli mode? In case of ;-) |
| 17:26.46 | gigabytes | it is in /cdrom/dists/sarge/ |
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| 17:27.06 | RvGaTe | itchi, nope, ill let you know... |
| 17:27.07 | itchi | !dri |
| 17:27.07 | dpkg | i guess dri is Direct Rendering Infrastructure, included in X. see http://dri.sourceforge.net or #dri, or read the outut of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo if your X log looks ok |
| 17:27.11 | gigabytes | peterS: so I think it cannot read from the CD-ROM the true version string |
| 17:27.23 | peterS | right, that's possible |
| 17:27.25 | itchi | Is dri only for ATI ? |
| 17:27.29 | gigabytes | the string is gotten empty |
| 17:27.38 | gigabytes | and the path is built in a wrong way |
| 17:27.55 | peterS | gigabytes: try another CD, I guess. or try a network install from a netboot set of floppies or netboot CD |
| 17:27.59 | gigabytes | peterS: the CD is burned properly, I tried on a newer PC and it boots up without problem |
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| 17:28.11 | itchi | RvGaTe: Wait, i can check, i move my ass ;-) |
| 17:28.14 | dabreegster | itchi: DRI is for many cards |
| 17:28.21 | gigabytes | peterS: I don't have floppy drives in the laptop |
| 17:28.33 | Ozux | Debian and ISPConfig? any body had installed? |
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| 17:28.34 | peterS | gigabytes: I'm just saying, if the drive is marginal, and the CD has any problems at all, better drives would be able to read it fine |
| 17:28.38 | gigabytes | and I don't have access to the network |
| 17:28.50 | peterS | gigabytes: no network, no floppy, so you _have_ to use the CD for everything? |
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| 17:29.12 | gigabytes | peterS: it seems... |
| 17:29.23 | itchi | dabreegster: ;-) |
| 17:29.30 | peterS | gigabytes: well, good luck. that sounds like it will be frustrating |
| 17:29.48 | itchi | RvGaTe: On my other box with nvidia i have also that line |
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| 17:30.07 | itchi | dabreegster: Thanks for the clarification :-) |
| 17:30.11 | dabreegster | itchi: It's great when it works |
| 17:30.25 | RvGaTe | still same problem, i commented it out... maybe the wrong config or something? |
| 17:30.29 | gigabytes | is there no way to remastering the cd and hardcode the string instead of make it read from another file? |
| 17:30.42 | itchi | dabreegster: I know :-) :-) but have not many experience to with the setup of it. Like we do it one time ;-) |
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| 17:31.18 | stew | wierd, ssh-agent stop working for me |
| 17:31.27 | simon23 | hi- i need a dvd creation tool, which one is good ? |
| 17:31.27 | simon23 | :-) |
| 17:31.31 | stew | i don't even think i've updated this machine in a while |
| 17:31.37 | philips | Testing: startx runs fine as root but dies for a normal user (running etch). Any suggestions? |
| 17:31.44 | dabreegster | itchi: I've only experience with one card. It worked great when I first put it in, but later upgrades to xorg and new versions of the mesa dri library broke it |
| 17:32.12 | itchi | dabreegster: Is it an module to load that dri ? |
| 17:32.17 | stew | philips: does with "user isn't authorized..."? |
| 17:32.30 | stew | ^does^dies |
| 17:32.41 | RvGaTe | itchi, found it... rebooting |
| 17:33.06 | itchi | RvGaTe: You have Sid ? |
| 17:33.08 | simon23 | philips: Yes, your harddisk is full ? |
| 17:33.09 | dabreegster | itchi: DRI modules aren't kernel modules, though there is a kernel module called drm that's related to it. They're X modules I guess. |
| 17:33.27 | itchi | RvGaTe: ^^ |
| 17:33.38 | gigabytes | peterS: it is frustrating |
| 17:33.40 | gigabytes | :D |
| 17:33.44 | philips | stew: I just purged xorg, and now I am getting /usr/bin/X11/X No such file |
| 17:33.44 | itchi | That's collaboration here hehe |
| 17:33.50 | gigabytes | I had to download slackware to install linux anyway |
| 17:33.58 | gigabytes | because I needed it today |
| 17:34.00 | philips | stew: xorg complained on install that /usr/bin/X had been modified and it wasn't changing it |
| 17:34.08 | simon23 | philips: guess its not your harddrive space then :-) |
| 17:34.10 | gigabytes | peterS: and it is frustrating to install slackware... |
| 17:34.12 | gigabytes | :D |
| 17:34.13 | RvGaTe | itchi, it worked :D |
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| 17:34.28 | itchi | RvGaTe: GOOOOOOOD :-) play, |
| 17:34.44 | stew | philips: touch /usr/bin/X && md5sum /usr/bin/X > /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum |
| 17:34.55 | itchi | RvGaTe: Try 'fgfs' my favoriete game Flight Gears Flight Simulation ;-) |
| 17:35.19 | itchi | RvGaTe: Yeah, now it begin to become realy nice |
| 17:35.19 | stoned | hey |
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| 17:35.26 | philips | stew: the file doesn't exist |
| 17:35.33 | itchi | !beer dabreegster: |
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| 17:35.35 | philips | stew: I guess I need to reinstall x11-common |
| 17:35.40 | itchi | dabreegster: ;-) |
| 17:35.40 | stew | philips: yeah, that's why i had you touch it first |
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| 17:36.03 | stew | philips: after that, dpkg-reconfigure x11-common ; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 17:36.04 | loiic | Hello |
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| 17:36.19 | loiic | is it possible to set up the umask on a per folder basis? |
| 17:36.20 | junix|work | if i put in a second hard drive...and want to move my /home folder to the hard drive, is there an easy way of doing this? |
| 17:36.24 | dabreegster | itchi: Hey, what's the big idea? Getting me drunk when I'm trying to work? |
| 17:36.37 | itchi | RvGaTe: Right now, i need to re setup my 2 boxes here to :-) |
| 17:37.02 | stoned | !spank RvGaTe |
| 17:37.10 | itchi | dabreegster: A bit a bit, but not to many, otherwise i did !champagne ;-) |
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| 17:38.18 | philips | stew: I reinstalled x11-common, and now /usr/bin/X exists, after doing dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg I am getting a "not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized"... |
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| 17:38.53 | loiic | anyone heard about something that could a .umask for example? |
| 17:39.00 | stoned | maybe you need to reset the md5sum on X |
| 17:39.04 | stew | philips: md5sum /usr/bin/X > /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum |
| 17:39.17 | stoned | well there you go |
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| 17:43.15 | yos87 | How to install ftp server? |
| 17:44.00 | itchi | yos87: It depend which one you want |
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| 17:44.14 | yos87 | I remember it was package name |
| 17:44.20 | philips | stew: now it is complaining that /etc/X11/X; file has been modified |
| 17:44.35 | yos87 | itchi: I want to access debian from other pc through ftp |
| 17:44.38 | itchi | yos87: You have many choixe, you have the best distro in you're hands guy ;-) |
| 17:45.09 | philips | stew: shoot, I had an empty .xinitr all along! |
| 17:45.11 | philips | gah |
| 17:45.15 | itchi | yos87: Use ssh ?? It's secure and 'a la mode' |
| 17:45.47 | itchi | yos87: Why need you an (old insecure) ftp exactly ? |
| 17:46.26 | yos87 | itchi: I don't know why? how to access some folder except ftp? |
| 17:46.39 | itchi | yos87: The ftp session in not crypted. An ssh server have an secured system |
| 17:47.23 | yos87 | itchi: how to access something for example through ssh? |
| 17:47.37 | itchi | yos87: With ftp, your /so/ limited. With an ssh connection, you use the command available on the remote system. If you make an connection to another host, you can play with *all* the commando's |
| 17:47.54 | itchi | yos87: ssh username@host |
| 17:48.35 | itchi | yos87: You need an ssh server up and running, look's complicte, but finaly it's easyer ;-) |
| 17:48.47 | yos87 | this is in the browser, but how to set it up in the main pc? |
| 17:49.22 | yos87 | ssh has hong man page |
| 17:49.23 | itchi | yos87: bbrr, you want to make an connection with an browser ? |
| 17:49.35 | itchi | yos87: So many features :-p |
| 17:49.54 | yos87 | but it's not easy to use! |
| 17:50.14 | itchi | yos87: Learn 'putty' on M$ users, his first step to open source apps :-) |
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| 17:50.57 | itchi | yos87: REALY easy to use, with ftp, the strange limited commando's. adding an file 'put blablabla' |
| 17:51.07 | harsha- | Hi all! I've been |
| 17:51.07 | blondie | commandos? haha |
| 17:51.12 | blondie | harsha-: you've been what? |
| 17:51.14 | harsha- | oops! |
| 17:51.21 | itchi | blondie: :-) |
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| 17:51.49 | yos87 | itchi : you know a website learning ssh? |
| 17:52.00 | blondie | harsha-: or should I say, you've been *where*? |
| 17:52.04 | itchi | yos87: I think that these strange ftp command's are complicater, also for new users |
| 17:52.05 | harsha- | I've trying to install debian-amd64 without much success. It fails to get the "Release" file and the installation stops there. |
| 17:52.09 | epsilon | yos87: what kind of ftp server, only for system user with normal access on filesystem like in shell, or for more users with own directories? |
| 17:52.15 | itchi | yos87: Moment |
| 17:52.58 | epsilon | and that ftp isn#t encrypted is only half-right, it can be easily crypted |
| 17:53.00 | yos87 | epsilon: I need to access files in debian in same small windows wokgroup, |
| 17:53.21 | epsilon | FTP or Samba? |
| 17:53.24 | yos87 | epsilon: no need much secure ,cause the files is not small |
| 17:53.33 | itchi | yos87: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/SSH for example, but try an google search with the ssh keyword ;-) |
| 17:53.35 | yos87 | epsilon: what package to install for ftp? |
| 17:54.15 | itchi | yos87: Not forget the official website of that tool http://www.openssh.com/ |
| 17:55.16 | epsilon | yos87: depends. For simple ftpd there are plently small one, I use proftpd which can much more |
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| 17:55.49 | epsilon | yos87: But if you want to access file via LAN from Windows, think of using Samba |
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| 17:56.39 | yos87 | epsilon: I install samba, but it's not easy to use it |
| 17:57.05 | epsilon | NACK. Samba is easier to use than FTP |
| 17:57.09 | yos87 | epsilon: debian computer appear when checking workgoup computer, |
| 17:57.11 | moyix | have the packages for python-gtk2 been changed? an upgrade wants to kill the -2.3 and -2.4 packages in favor of a single python-gtk2 package... |
| 17:57.18 | epsilon | you can easily access files via Explorer |
| 17:57.43 | itchi | yos87: Look for an sftp client on the client side |
| 17:57.45 | yos87 | epsilon: how, I install it , what to do next? |
| 17:57.59 | stew | moyix: yes, there is a major python transition in progress |
| 17:58.15 | epsilon | you install the samba daemon, setup user, open ports on firewall. that's all |
| 17:58.19 | stew | moyix: this will be happening with all python packages |
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| 17:58.42 | moyix | stew: ok, thanks. just didn't want to end up with only a virtual package installed :) |
| 17:59.10 | yos87 | epsilon: how to open ports in firewall, |
| 17:59.14 | itchi | yos87: An sftp client is an secured ftp client that can use ssh encryption |
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| 17:59.24 | yos87 | epsilon: sorry, but maybe I have less knoledge |
| 17:59.41 | itchi | yos87: Which firewall, or iptables ? |
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| 17:59.49 | snd-ca0106 | hi, there's a Virtual CD for linux ? meant a tool that takes and iso and creates a CD unit at runtime ? |
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| 18:00.06 | epsilon | mount the iso |
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| 18:00.10 | yos87 | just mount it man |
| 18:00.17 | moyix | snd-ca0106: mount -o loop foo.iso mountpoint/ |
| 18:00.37 | epsilon | there is no CD/DVD drive like Windows on Linux |
| 18:00.53 | epsilon | it's just a directory in filesystem |
| 18:01.29 | Jemt | Greetz. It seems that my USB2 controller is using a USB1.1 driver. Usually I am able to burn CDs at x24 - but now I can only burn at x4. How can I fix this? (x24 was available in Ubuntu Breezy - I'm running ordinary Debian now - Sarge, Unstable kernel 2.6.16, everything else from testing) |
| 18:01.50 | peterS | Jemt: 'modprobe ehci_hcd' |
| 18:02.01 | peterS | Jemt: that's the main USB 2 driver. may or may not actually solve your problem |
| 18:02.03 | Jemt | peterS: Checking |
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| 18:02.23 | yos87 | epsilon: tell me, I install samba, what to do next |
| 18:02.41 | Jemt | peterS: Already loaded (being displayed in 'lsmod') |
| 18:03.09 | epsilon | yos87: read the HOWTO on tldp.org or samba.org |
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| 18:03.18 | peterS | Jemt: who knows then. unplug and plug your drive in, then check 'dmesg | tail' to see what it gets detected as |
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| 18:03.32 | Jemt | peterS: Ok |
| 18:03.54 | epsilon | yos87: on debian with GUI administration, you probably need the samba package for the daemon and SWAT for the administration via Webbrowser |
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| 18:05.34 | itchi | yos87: Try to do one thing at a time :-/ |
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| 18:07.17 | mohadib | hello |
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| 18:07.40 | mohadib | you guys know how i can shutoff error beeps , like the terminal bell |
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| 18:07.49 | itchi | yos87: Put it in your bookmarks http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/ |
| 18:07.54 | mohadib | i disbled it in my prefs , but its not working |
| 18:08.02 | Jemt | peterS: Ah, my USB hub seems to be the problem - it's not USB 2 compatible (usb 2-2.3: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub). If I plug it directly into my computer, I don't get that warning. Thanks alot :) |
| 18:08.03 | mohadib | im using sawfish , i think that is why |
| 18:08.09 | peterS | Jemt: ah, heh |
| 18:08.22 | widrone | Jemt: Hehe, that should do it... |
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| 18:09.12 | yos87 | itchi: thak you very much for help |
| 18:09.27 | itchi | yos87: Thanks to of that great website ;-) |
| 18:09.33 | bleaked | quick question, i want to enable dma on both of my hard drives in the /etc/hdparm.conf file -- i was going to use the command_line feature in the conf file -- so would i use the same line as in the example, twice, or just list both drives? Example: http://pastebin.com/733390 |
| 18:09.40 | itchi | s/of/theses of |
| 18:09.50 | yos87 | itchi: yes it is, Nice website, |
| 18:09.59 | Jemt | widrone: Yea :) |
| 18:10.01 | itchi | yos87: Usefull ... :-) |
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| 18:10.10 | yos87 | itchi: but I will not understand it much, because, I need more reading and study |
| 18:10.26 | itchi | yos87: We can not set it up at youre place :-/ |
| 18:10.36 | yos87 | itichi: I'm not recognizing all the items I read |
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| 18:11.05 | yos87 | itchi: I don't any body to set it up for me , I want to do !! |
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| 18:11.13 | itchi | yos87: Like ssh, you need to know what he do. Like i have tell you ^^ of you're ftp ... |
| 18:11.57 | itchi | yos87: Then you need to read/learn, it fall not out of the sky :-) |
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| 18:12.49 | snd-ca0106 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.43 | yos87 | itchi: in the current time, I will install windows server and I will make temporary ftp server there, its easy |
| 18:14.08 | itchi | yos87: It's easy to fuck/crash/reinstall, you i believe it :-) |
| 18:14.24 | itchi | s/i/you and my |
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| 18:15.16 | itchi | yos87: Are you an click an crash admin ?? |
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| 18:15.26 | yos87 | itchi: yes |
| 18:15.27 | valdyn | bleaked: why is your DMA not activated automatically? |
| 18:16.09 | itchi | yos87: Really, it's complicater on an Fucking box. GNU/Linux are *so* easy, so easy to maitain, to repair!!! |
| 18:16.52 | itchi | yos87: Like you M$. I HATE it if you want to know ! |
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| 18:17.12 | itchi | yos87: The biggest shit ever born guy |
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| 18:18.24 | itchi | yos87: You not realise that you have take time, years to learn that crap M$. And it's looks that you not have learn many things about some things. M$ hidden you many things. It's crap really, |
| 18:18.37 | snd-ca0106 | hi, there're something different making a lan using a pc with windows (connected to the internet) and one with linux ? or thy config is same as 2 windows ? |
| 18:18.57 | peterS | itchi: yeah, so don't talk about microsoft in this channel, it's offtopic. thanks. |
| 18:18.58 | snd-ca0106 | (the lan0 iface i configure on linux) |
| 18:18.59 | stew | can we please drop the microsoft discussion |
| 18:19.29 | itchi | yos87: I understand that it's many things you need to learn now at this stage, like you not know many about GNU/Linux in general, but you will see it. it realy better setup/build |
| 18:19.44 | itchi | peterS: I HATE that crap lol |
| 18:19.57 | itchi | peterS: I try to convince him |
| 18:20.26 | streuner | it doesn't help to repeat it.. |
| 18:20.50 | itchi | yos87: Don't panic, on an GNU/Linux box, you will many faster (if you want) |
| 18:20.59 | itchi | s/will/will learn |
| 18:21.18 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: what do you really want to know? |
| 18:21.47 | peterS | lan0, that sounds like hp-ux (: |
| 18:21.57 | itchi | yos87: Try to do step by step what you need to do. Go only to the next step when the previous are done. DON'T give up, you will receive the BEST compensation ;-) |
| 18:22.07 | snd-ca0106 | how setup my linux box to use pc-with-windows connection to the internet |
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| 18:22.30 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: so your windows box is directly connected to the internet? |
| 18:22.36 | snd-ca0106 | yes |
| 18:22.49 | snd-ca0106 | and i early used lan sharing using two windows boxes |
| 18:23.00 | snd-ca0106 | but now i ant to do so using a windows box and alinux one |
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| 18:23.14 | snd-ca0106 | i think it's possible |
| 18:23.19 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: if your windows box is acting as a dhcp server then linux should be able to connect to it as any dhcp server |
| 18:23.21 | snd-ca0106 | i dunno how to setup that though |
| 18:23.22 | snd-ca0106 | ;( |
| 18:23.24 | itchi | yos87: Everyone have take the same way. Learning somethings he not know... It's normal you ask some /basic/ question, we are not born we so nice knowledges :-/ |
| 18:23.33 | snd-ca0106 | no setup to do ' |
| 18:23.40 | snd-ca0106 | linux asks me for broadcast ip's |
| 18:23.44 | snd-ca0106 | gateways and etc |
| 18:24.11 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: you need to set the gateway, just as you would on windows |
| 18:24.17 | itchi | yos87: Realy give at least 6 months of you're life to GNU/Linux and you will see wath it's :-) |
| 18:24.31 | snd-ca0106 | the gateway isn't th eip of the window box ? |
| 18:24.36 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: same for the other things in fact. your netmask should likely be 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:25.05 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: it is the same ip as your windows box if your windows box is itself connected to the internet |
| 18:25.17 | snd-ca0106 | pinging my windows box says network is unreachable |
| 18:25.19 | snd-ca0106 | ;( |
| 18:25.26 | Opportunist | ohoh |
| 18:25.45 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: what's the ip of your windows box? what's the ip of your linux box? |
| 18:25.50 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: linux is "asking" you for broadcast ip's?? I still don't understand -- you want to have the windows box connected to the internet, and connect the linux box to the windows box in order to share the internet connection with the linux box? |
| 18:25.53 | itchi | yos87: Take some websites in you're bookmarks, if you not understand some English howto's. Try to translate it, it would help you many. And so there are a bit more documentation in you're native language, and ALSO for the next guy of your same native language |
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| 18:25.59 | abrotman | looks rough in here today ... |
| 18:26.12 | streuner | in which way? |
| 18:26.31 | snd-ca0106 | Vasistha> sright |
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| 18:26.49 | itchi | abrotman: I'm sorry my friend :-/ |
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| 18:28.06 | snd-ca0106 | well it magically fixed itself now! |
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| 18:28.15 | itchi | abrotman: I tryed to help an desesperated guy ;-) |
| 18:28.16 | snd-ca0106 | i wonder it was a windows issue |
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| 18:28.49 | snd-ca0106 | nowjust another question thy wi-fi led is always off on my notebook |
| 18:28.51 | Teltariat | greets folks. |
| 18:29.01 | snd-ca0106 | it means i lack the wi-fi driver ? |
| 18:29.56 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: not necessarily, there are a variety of things that could be going on. Is it a pcmcia card, or is wireless built into the laptop? |
| 18:30.05 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: that led probably indicates association to an AP, if that is the case, then its just not associated at least |
| 18:30.24 | snd-ca0106 | it's built in in the pc |
| 18:30.34 | snd-ca0106 | and pc is an acer aspire 1692wlmi |
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| 18:30.56 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: which wifi chipset is it? |
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| 18:31.11 | snd-ca0106 | intel |
| 18:31.14 | flobee | DCC SEND debian-oh-debian-i-love-u 0 0 0 |
| 18:31.17 | itchi | yos87: What's your native language ? |
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| 18:31.18 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: which intel |
| 18:31.30 | snd-ca0106 | pro wireless 2200 |
| 18:31.30 | itchi | !ops dcc atack |
| 18:31.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: itchi complains about: dcc atack |
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| 18:31.51 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: driver is in debian, but its not installed by default |
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| 18:31.58 | itchi | quick quick are these guys here :p |
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| 18:32.01 | snd-ca0106 | i dunno nut i see |
| 18:32.05 | Maulkin | Sman. Beat me to it there :) |
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| 18:32.08 | snd-ca0106 | a wireless0 interfac |
| 18:32.09 | valdyn | !ipw2200 |
| 18:32.10 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. You will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package, and contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware to /lib/firmware. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200. It is built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 18:32.12 | Vasistha | !tell snd-ca0106 about enter |
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| 18:32.27 | snd-ca0106 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:32.34 | Maulkin | itchi: I've got a hilight for that... :) |
| 18:32.39 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: on which distro are yoiu really? |
| 18:32.42 | streuner | heh, s(he) fooled you, i got nothing (DCC) |
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| 18:32.44 | snd-ca0106 | kanotix |
| 18:32.52 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: 's ok, just so long as you can ... uh ... fix it? |
| 18:32.55 | snd-ca0106 | but it's th e same in debian |
| 18:32.56 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: kanotix obviously is not debian |
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| 18:33.06 | itchi | Maulkin: You have good stuff :-) |
| 18:33.16 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: no, certainly not, debian does not load the ipw2200 driver by default |
| 18:33.27 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: it CANT even load it by default |
| 18:33.32 | itchi | Maulkin: But im know Debian Rules :-) |
| 18:33.33 | snd-ca0106 | i mean i 've thw exaclty same behavior in debian box ;) |
| 18:33.50 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: only cencerning that LED |
| 18:33.57 | snd-ca0106 | yes |
| 18:33.58 | Maulkin | itchi: debian/rules clean? |
| 18:34.09 | Maulkin | Sorry, bad joke |
| 18:34.21 | Jemt | Hm, I have 2 network adapters in my laptop (Wifi, GigaLAN + 1 old fasion modem. But I have several network interfaces available (eth0, eth1, eth2, eht3, ppp0). How can I find out which one is my Wifi? The Networking manager in Gnome dosn't treat any of them as a wireless network adapter - there is no input field for the WEP key. |
| 18:34.23 | valdyn | snd-ca0106: man iwconfig |
| 18:34.24 | itchi | Maulkin: Sorry for my bad english |
| 18:34.34 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: the thing is, kanotix does certain things quite differently from debian, and we could exhaust ourselves trying to help you the "debian way" only to have it turn out that kanotix has some configuration thing none of us here knew about |
| 18:34.53 | valdyn | !kanotix |
| 18:34.54 | dpkg | [kanotix] not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) See <Based On Debian>, or go to #kanotix |
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| 18:35.09 | Maulkin | itchi: You'll last longer in the uk then I will in Bosnia :) |
| 18:35.10 | snd-ca0106 | just tell me the debian way i'll try on debian box and says if it's right ;) |
| 18:35.25 | snd-ca0106 | i don't ask u to of kanotix stuff ;) |
| 18:35.28 | evilbulgarian | hi is there a virtual package to pull all the compression tools like rar unrar zip unzip etc..? |
| 18:35.36 | itchi | Maulkin: hehe |
| 18:35.39 | Jemt | Or maybe the WEP-key is Ubuntu specific, which I used before I switched to real Debian |
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| 18:36.15 | valdyn | Jemt: look at the MAC address |
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| 18:36.27 | itchi | evilbulgarian: You want somethings easy to unpack almost everythings ? Look/try 'unp' |
| 18:36.28 | Jemt | valdyn: Ah yes, ofcause, thx |
| 18:36.34 | Maulkin | Jemt: Or try "iwconfig -a" |
| 18:36.38 | Jemt | What is the name of the ifconfig command for wifi ? |
| 18:36.42 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: if you're working on a debian box then we can probably help you, as long as you can find kanotix help elsewhere ... anyway, where were we? |
| 18:36.43 | Jemt | Maulkin: Ah, thanks :) |
| 18:36.47 | evilbulgarian | itchi: thanks |
| 18:36.57 | valdyn | Jemt: iwconfig complements ifconfig, it does not replace it |
| 18:37.28 | Jemt | Hm, iwconfig is not installed. Which package contains the program ? |
| 18:37.30 | snd-ca0106 | now i switched to debian box ;) |
| 18:37.42 | valdyn | !tell Jemt -about search |
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| 18:38.11 | snd-ca0106 | the problem is : led is off and (wi-fi) and don't let me turn the card/on/off |
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| 18:38.19 | itchi | Jemt: As root user |
| 18:38.20 | snd-ca0106 | but the iface works |
| 18:38.21 | Jemt | valdyn: I know - but it dosn't give anything to search for iwconfig |
| 18:38.30 | snd-ca0106 | it's just a "led" issue |
| 18:38.30 | valdyn | Jemt: it does |
| 18:38.35 | valdyn | !search |
| 18:38.36 | dpkg | [search] try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
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| 18:38.52 | Jemt | valdyn: Not here |
| 18:38.52 | kepht | i'm seeing this error (on etch) whenever i use dpkg or apt-file: |
| 18:38.53 | kepht | shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent dir |
| 18:38.53 | kepht | ectories: No such file or directory |
| 18:38.55 | Jemt | valdyn: apt-cache search iwconfig |
| 18:38.59 | valdyn | Jemt: the URL and the apt-file tool are both listed and useful to search files |
| 18:39.02 | tuxcicles | wiconfig? |
| 18:39.09 | Vasistha | snd-ca0106: have you still got that factoid about installing intel wireless cards? /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
| 18:39.20 | roderyk-web | Is there a replacement for vimpart in debian testing/unstable? It seems to only exist in stable, and so conflicts with a lot of testing packages? Is there another way to get embedded vim? |
| 18:39.38 | Maulkin | Jemt: Go to http://packages.debian.org At the bottom, put in iwconfig |
| 18:39.48 | Jemt | Maulkin: Thanks, great :) |
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| 18:40.00 | itchi | roderyk-web: Need you gvim ?? |
| 18:40.12 | cmatei | snd-ca0106: a friend of mine also has "led issues" with the ipw2200 driver |
| 18:40.31 | Maulkin | Oh... led issues? |
| 18:40.31 | snd-ca0106 | it solved ? |
| 18:40.35 | roderyk-web | itchi: I have gvim, I wanted to use the embedded version though (eg. in kmail) |
| 18:40.37 | snd-ca0106 | he* |
| 18:40.39 | Maulkin | You need to pass led=1 when loading the driver |
| 18:40.50 | Maulkin | Jemt: (apt-get install wireless-tools) |
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| 18:40.56 | cmatei | with "led=1" the driver wouldn't work at all for him :) |
| 18:40.58 | Jemt | Maulkin: Yep, found it :) |
| 18:41.08 | snd-ca0106 | ah ok |
| 18:41.08 | itchi | roderyk-web: I not know about the /embedded/ version :-/ |
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| 18:41.22 | Jemt | Hm, 'iwconfig -a' displays no wireless network adapters. Any suggestions ? |
| 18:41.22 | cmatei | erm, or was it the other way arround... |
| 18:41.23 | Maulkin | Well, the led just works(tm) for me. |
| 18:41.42 | Maulkin | Jemt: Which device do you expect to be the wireless one? |
| 18:41.53 | roderyk-web | itchi: from what I understand, 'vimpart' is a stable package that gives you /embedded/ version for kde apps. It seems to have disappeared in newer distros, though :-/ |
| 18:42.02 | Jemt | Maulkin: Let me just check against the MAC adresses - sec |
| 18:42.02 | Maulkin | Jemt: Do you have the drivers loaded for your wireless card? |
| 18:42.13 | Jemt | Maulkin: I'm not sure |
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| 18:42.19 | Maulkin | Jemt: What is it? |
| 18:42.23 | itchi | roderyk-web: I looking to |
| 18:42.54 | Jemt | Maulkin: eth2 is my wireless (according to the MAC address) |
| 18:43.15 | Maulkin | Jemt: It's possible you don't have the right driver loaded |
| 18:43.21 | Jemt | Maulkin: What model/brand ? It is a Cisco card/chip to my knowledge. |
| 18:43.22 | snd-ca0106 | mmm very thx for all mates ;) but ive to steal some of your more tine ;) |
| 18:43.29 | itchi | roderyk-web: vimpart is still here on my Etch box, not installed, i installed it |
| 18:43.34 | Jemt | Maulkin: Ok. Let me just lookup the actual name / brand / model |
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| 18:43.52 | snd-ca0106 | i need to know what to do (except kernel patching and initrd's stuff) to see battery level of my lap |
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| 18:44.28 | Maulkin | snd-ca0106: Works fine as standard with acpi for me. What laptop are you using? |
| 18:44.32 | itchi | roderyk-web: He complain of depencies if i try to install, |
| 18:44.42 | snd-ca0106 | acer 1692 wlmi |
| 18:45.06 | itchi | roderyk-web: Probably we need to look if there are an know bug or so |
| 18:45.10 | snd-ca0106 | it displays only if it's charging or it's about to b e empty |
| 18:45.12 | snd-ca0106 | ;( |
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| 18:45.38 | snd-ca0106 | tryed acpi -V and it says only charging / not charging |
| 18:45.39 | Maulkin | snd-ca0106: Try mailing debian-laptop@lists.debian.org |
| 18:45.48 | DX_ | DCC SEND adsfajsfbsdajfbsdajcbsajbasjvbsjvbjbdjbdjbjfbajsdfbsjdbsjdvjsdbsadfbjbj 0 0 0 |
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| 18:46.04 | roderyk-web | itchi: ok, maybe it's my own fault then - I'm not running clean debian on the laptop. It is 'kanotix', which is mostly debian/sid +patches |
| 18:46.33 | itchi | That's to :-/ |
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| 18:46.36 | Maulkin | roderyk-web: please go to #kanotix for kanotix support |
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| 18:46.38 | stew | roderyk-web: please go to #kanotix for help with kanotix, it's off-topic here |
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| 18:47.04 | roderyk-web | I didn't think it was kanotix specific, but all right. |
| 18:47.08 | Teltariat | (Trying to install python-sqlite on etch, but its consistently failing.... ) |
| 18:47.09 | roderyk-web | itchi: thanks for help |
| 18:47.14 | itchi | roderyk-web: ;-) |
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| 18:47.29 | itchi | Maulkin: How it come that these ops here are so quick ?? |
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| 18:47.33 | signuts | What are the various tools for managing run level boot scripts? |
| 18:47.54 | Maulkin | itchi: We're around at the moment :) |
| 18:48.01 | slidesinger | I just picked up a used soekris net4521 and am looking to build a firewall on it. Some things I don't understand and the page referred to on the paper that came with it (http://www.innercite.com/~mike/soekris) seems to be dead. The things I don't understand: booting to a serial console....I have a compact flash reader on my PC, can I use this to install the OS with? Have googled, but may not be using the right keywords. (firewa |
| 18:48.10 | itchi | !tell signuts about startup |
| 18:48.17 | kronoz | has xorg been fixed in the etch installer yet? |
| 18:48.39 | kronoz | er weekly builds, can they be installed wirh xorg properly |
| 18:48.46 | k31th | anyone got any advice i am migrating severs an i am swapping from sendmail to postfix. |
| 18:48.52 | Maulkin | slidesinger: You can install over a serial cable. Or if you can netboot it, that'll work too |
| 18:49.11 | itchi | Maulkin: Yes, i see your talking here, but to do x and y command's to shout him out and so :-/ *To* quick |
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| 18:49.43 | Maulkin | itchi: Ahh. To do what I did, I type "/abk DX_" |
| 18:50.05 | Maulkin | itchi: We have custom scripts for irssi :) |
| 18:50.20 | itchi | Maulkin: I was been thinking ;-) abk :-/ |
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| 18:51.06 | itchi | signuts: Look also to /msg dpkg runlevels |
| 18:51.58 | skrewz | Hey there. Do anybody know how to ask aptitude to rate-limit its download? |
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| 18:55.35 | Jemt | Maulkin: It seems my wireless network adapter is a 'Cisco 802.11b wireless, Mini-PCI'. What would be the next step to find out if drivers have been loaded ? |
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| 18:55.55 | Maulkin | Jemt: Erm... What does lspci say? |
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| 18:56.04 | Jemt | Maulkin: Sec |
| 18:56.09 | Maulkin | Jemt: That's not really enough info to find the right driver. |
| 18:56.21 | Jemt | Maulkin: What more info do we need ? |
| 18:56.54 | Jemt | lspci contains: '0000:02:02.0 Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b' |
| 18:57.00 | Maulkin | Jemt: Well, the chipset it's using would be nice. |
| 18:57.02 | stew | !which module for 0280 |
| 18:57.02 | dpkg | to find which modules supports 0280, run this command: grep `lspci -n |awk '/0280/{sub(":",".*",$3);print $3}'` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap |
| 18:57.04 | Maulkin | Ahh, that's better |
| 18:57.10 | Jemt | Maulkin: Good :D |
| 18:57.26 | Maulkin | Erk, phone. BBIAB |
| 18:57.33 | Jemt | Maulkin: Hehe, okay :) |
| 18:57.46 | stew | Jemt: it will use the "airo" module |
| 18:58.29 | Jemt | stew: That is already loaded |
| 18:58.44 | Jemt | stew: But the card is still not displayed in 'iwconfig -a' |
| 18:58.52 | Jemt | stew: It is listed as eth2 |
| 18:59.11 | stew | Jemt: i don't think -a is a valid option to iwconfig |
| 18:59.31 | Jemt | stew: Ah, that's why! :) |
| 18:59.36 | Jemt | stew: Doh! :) |
| 18:59.51 | Jemt | Yep, Wifi0 is available now :) |
| 19:00.18 | Jemt | Weird. Both eth2, eth3 and Wifi0 seems to be wireless cards. But I only got one Wifi adapter |
| 19:01.15 | stew | Jemt: in what way do they seem like wireless cards? |
| 19:01.15 | Jemt | Do I need an extension to the Gnome Networking manager in order to configure wireless network cards in that tool? |
| 19:01.54 | Jemt | stew: They are listed as "existing". Eth0 and eth1 is marked as 'no wireless extension' |
| 19:02.12 | stew | Jemt: listed as existing where? |
| 19:02.14 | Jemt | stew: But wifi0 contains more information - like frequency |
| 19:02.20 | Jemt | stew: In 'iwconfig' |
| 19:02.33 | stew | Jemt: yeah iwconfig lists all interfaces, not just wireless ones |
| 19:02.39 | Jemt | Ah, okay :) |
| 19:03.07 | Jemt | Ah, GREAT. Installing wireless-tools also provides Wifi support in the Gnome Networking manager :D |
| 19:03.08 | Jemt | Nifty! |
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| 19:03.45 | Jemt | BRB, switching to Wifi (if it works ;) |
| 19:04.15 | itchi | Those wo runs Etch, got you an trouble to install vimpart? I have look in the bugreport about it, but i not found somethings about it. It's looks like im not alone see ^^ |
| 19:04.26 | [Gabe] | Hey guys..can someone point me to a debian + postfix guide/faq/wiki? I am having an odd problem with local_recipients getting rejected even though I think it's configured correctly. |
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| 19:06.45 | slidesinger | Just found a new url for the soekris-debian page. Someone should update dpkg to give the following link: http://www.cheapnet.net/~mike/soekris instead of http://www.innercite.com/~mike/soekris |
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| 19:07.09 | Shadowcat | slidesinger: so you do it |
| 19:07.24 | itchi | slidesinger: Im to lazy to search :-) But here's an good one http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/ |
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| 19:07.35 | bleaked | so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - so what might this mean? |
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| 19:08.02 | bluetoothy | i've was once able to switch from mouse pointer ctrled by numpad and numpad normal mode using shift-numlock now it just beeps if i do ? how do i revert back to switching mode ? |
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| 19:08.30 | stew | itchi: there is no vimpart package in either testing or unstable. it must have been removed for a reason |
| 19:09.05 | itchi | stew: I find no trace of it in reportbug vimpart. Is it normal? |
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| 19:09.32 | stew | itchi: seems reasonable to me |
| 19:10.06 | stew | itchi: seems reasonable that the stable package is bug free |
| 19:10.10 | jlaw | abrotman ... hey, i got alsa running ... there are some parts which have to be kept modular and i inadvertently selected some experimental stuff causing problems with the device ids |
| 19:10.36 | itchi | stew: Ok, thanks for the confirmations ;-) I not make use of it. But an guy that is gone have complain about it. It's so that i have fall on it |
| 19:11.15 | slidesinger | Shadowcat: OK, may one ask how? |
| 19:11.25 | abrotman | jlaw: ah .. that stinks |
| 19:11.49 | jlaw | abrotman, yep^^ but now it works and i know better next time |
| 19:13.29 | bleaked | ok, i've been attempting to speed up my system, system boot time, etc, etc. i think i've screwed something up, but not sure what. when my system boots, i am dumped into the busybox ash shell, with the error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off -- so what might i do? |
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| 19:14.22 | Al2O3 | hi, have KNOPPIX 5.0 installed. I have set up the install from CD as a multiuser install, apparnetly no root login is allowed in this configuration (I have tried). So, logged in as myself in my own account, with admin privs available, I have downloaded a .deb package. How to install? |
| 19:14.43 | Al2O3 | I'm trying to install the latest Opera 9.0 .deb distribution. |
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| 19:14.48 | stew | Al2O3: please go to #knoppix for help with knoppix |
| 19:15.06 | Al2O3 | stew, I'm there too, and all are asleep and in bed :) |
| 19:15.23 | stew | Al2O3: try a mailing list maybe |
| 19:15.25 | Al2O3 | its really more a .deb question, than a knoppix question. |
| 19:15.40 | Al2O3 | what tool would I use to install a .deb file? |
| 19:15.42 | stew | Al2O3: its not debian related, and therefore off-topic for this channel |
| 19:15.44 | Al2O3 | hows tahat. |
| 19:15.54 | stew | Al2O3: look for the apt-howto |
| 19:15.59 | Al2O3 | ty |
| 19:16.02 | Al2O3 | much appreciated |
| 19:16.56 | bleaked | Al2O3: dpkg -i whatever.deb |
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| 19:17.20 | sandman | Does Apache have a web-based configuration? |
| 19:17.30 | sandman | Or perhaps a seperate package as PHPMyAdmin for MySQL? |
| 19:17.39 | Maulkin | sandman: No, but it can do. Have a look for webmin |
| 19:17.53 | sandman | Webmin isn't in the repositories |
| 19:18.07 | Maulkin | oh, prehaps it got removed then |
| 19:18.13 | Maulkin | Not sure then |
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| 19:18.26 | bleaked | sandman: really though, something like apache is best configured manually -- if you have simple www needs, look into something like lighttpd |
| 19:18.47 | sandman | I just need to know where to put SSLEnable |
| 19:18.51 | thevic | can somebody please tell me what a 'status nick' is? how do i disable this aforementioned 'status nick?' to avoid further bans?? |
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| 19:19.11 | bleaked | sandman: #apache ? |
| 19:19.19 | Z0l | hi |
| 19:19.28 | Z0l | anyone having segmentation fault with ntpd? |
| 19:19.37 | Z0l | i cannot figure out the root clause for it |
| 19:20.00 | stew | thevic: some irc channels operators don't like it when you change your nick to indicate your status, such as "thevic-away" or "thevic-sleeping", i don't believe this is such a channel however |
| 19:20.40 | itchi | Z0l: Try an filesystem check |
| 19:20.59 | Z0l | itchi, thanks, will do that in a minute |
| 19:21.00 | stew | Z0l: what version of debian? |
| 19:21.23 | thevic | oh .... well i was in here from EFNet and i did that and i got banned |
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| 19:21.30 | Z0l | debian sarge |
| 19:21.43 | Z0l | and the ntp-server is from the debian package |
| 19:22.05 | Z0l | even when started without config file, ntpd -n gives a Segmentation fault also |
| 19:22.12 | stew | Z0l: its most likely a hardware problem then, you might consider running memtest86 |
| 19:22.19 | Z0l | hmm, i think i'm unable to do the filesystem check atm |
| 19:22.31 | Z0l | are you sure? |
| 19:22.33 | Z0l | ok |
| 19:22.51 | Z0l | i've been googling since an hour about this |
| 19:23.06 | Z0l | and couldn't find anything |
| 19:23.13 | stew | Z0l: i'm certainly not sure, but you can check the bts: /msg dpkg bts ; if you don't similar reports, its almost definately a hardware problem; bad memory, bad motherboard, overheating.. |
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| 19:23.48 | rhys | anyone know how to make debian like smoothwall or ipcop? when the ppp connection comes up, have it foward to the rest of the network? |
| 19:23.59 | cberlo | Hi folks. Can anyone enlighten me on allowing null passwords through GDM? I know why I shouldn't but is it possible to do it? |
| 19:24.29 | rhys | along with setting the DNS servers. i figure to use wvdial but i dont know how to do the rest. |
| 19:24.37 | Z0l | stew, ok, i think i'll do some more tests, and try the memtest |
| 19:24.49 | Z0l | but the server's 200 miles away |
| 19:24.53 | rhys | the few guides ive found are very simple iptables configurations |
| 19:25.10 | Z0l | thanks |
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| 19:27.22 | cberlo | No takers? What if I said I can replace 1000 Windows machines with a Linux Terminal Server if this question can be answered? :) |
| 19:27.40 | Z0l | bye |
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| 19:27.53 | rhys | roffle. cberlo, thats bribery |
| 19:28.10 | Aim_Here | What happens if you try, cberlo? |
| 19:28.12 | cberlo | rhys: if it works, why not? |
| 19:28.41 | cberlo | Aim_Here: It wont' accept a null password. I have to enter something to get past the GDM login screen. |
| 19:29.01 | cberlo | ..which of course does not match the NULL password... |
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| 19:29.44 | jlaw | hmm ... i got alsa running and it definately works but firefox nor opera are able to play sound (i tested by playing a flsh movie) is there some kind of sound setup beside alsaconf which i have to execute? |
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| 19:30.17 | bloh | hi, there a way to tell mount to use a string stored in a file ad parameter |
| 19:30.25 | thevic | is it a bug that smbmount lets me mount to the same mount point twice? |
| 19:31.02 | cberlo | FYI: I'm setting this project up for a school board, and the deployment could replace all remaining Win9x machines if successful (we have approximately 3000 at present). When Vista hits, I'd like to not have to migrate our XP systems to it, with the same option becoming available to them, as well. |
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| 19:31.22 | thevic | bloh ... i know you can do that w/ mounting smbfs shares .... |
| 19:31.24 | rhys | bloh, ah... mount < file.txt |
| 19:31.40 | bloh | tried but gives an error |
| 19:32.11 | cberlo | I've tried setting up pam with the typical "nullok" options in pam_unix.so and removed the "min=4" password length statement |
| 19:32.24 | Al2O3 | ok, did an 'apt-get upgrade' and the only thing held back is wine. |
| 19:32.29 | rhys | the text of file.txt should be like "-t filetype /dev/dev1 /mnt/mntpoint |
| 19:32.57 | bloh | i tried mount -o loop <filename /home/user/VirtualDisk >>>>> where filename i text file and /home/user/VirtualDisk the mountpoint |
| 19:33.17 | rhys | cberlo, maybe a guess, but try putting min=0, instead of removing it |
| 19:33.27 | Blissex | bloh: thats crazy. |
| 19:33.36 | Al2O3 | doing an update now |
| 19:33.37 | bloh | i practically must mount an iso given in a textfile |
| 19:33.39 | cberlo | Okay. Let's see how that works. I don't have to restart anything for PAM to see that, right? |
| 19:34.17 | bloh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.44 | rhys | did you make sure to put a space there? < filename, not <filename |
| 19:35.15 | Al2O3 | so I should use apt-get to install the opera-xxx.deb package I have retrieved from the Opera.com site, or is the opera 9.0 distro available at whatever repository/distribution center for debian? |
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| 19:35.28 | bloh | the space is there |
| 19:35.30 | Blissex | bloh: rhys: it is just almost completely wrong, nothing to do with spaces. |
| 19:35.48 | jelly-home | Al2O3: dpkg -i opera_whatever.deb |
| 19:35.49 | bloh | Blissex can u turn light upon me ? |
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| 19:35.57 | bloh | what's the way ? |
| 19:35.59 | rhys | Oh. Blissex, i honestly dont know. im just trying |
| 19:36.06 | Al2O3 | jelly-home, thank you. |
| 19:36.20 | stew | Al2O3: please go to #knoppix for help with knoppix |
| 19:36.25 | cberlo | rhys: Don't see any difference. Are there GDM-specific options I should try? |
| 19:36.42 | rhys | couldnt tell you. i like kdm. :) |
| 19:36.43 | jade | folks, i ssh'd to my debian server, and finger reports that a second instance of my uid has been idle for 5 days. how can i determine which process this belongs to and apply kill sigterm? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2962 |
| 19:36.46 | Al2O3 | stew, with all due respect, it would seem this is not a knoppix question. |
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| 19:36.56 | stew | Al2O3: it is a knoppix question |
| 19:37.02 | cberlo | Usually, the options are the same for those, arent' they? :) |
| 19:37.06 | stew | Al2O3: its certainly not a debian question |
| 19:37.23 | thevic | does somebody know the ops in #debian on EFNet? |
| 19:37.31 | Blissex | bloh: 'mount' does not read its standard input, and you cannot mount text files. |
| 19:37.49 | stew | thevic: do they have services like ChanServ there? |
| 19:37.59 | rhys | i dunno. cberlo. im just trying to figure out how to foward my poor little dialup connection |
| 19:38.10 | grummund | hi, i am looking at the various spamassassin packages for debian, not sure which best suit my needs... Ideally i need to filter at the MTA (exim) to bounce spam from wherever it came, *except* for certain mx's, where instead all mail should be delivered, with a header for potential spam. Can someone suggest which pkgs i need and i will go rtfm for those... tks. |
| 19:38.16 | bloh | i mean it has to open the text file read the string use as parameter (the text file contains just the name of an iso file) |
| 19:38.18 | jelly-home | stew: meh, installing a 3rd party deb with dpkg is going to be pretty much the same in any dpkg-based distro, isn't it? |
| 19:38.21 | thevic | stew ... apologies ... i am quit ignorant to the ways of the ircnet .... ChanServ? |
| 19:38.33 | cberlo | rhys: there does seem to be a GDM option "PasswordRequired=false"... let's see what happens... :) |
| 19:38.36 | rhys | Al2O3, i use opera and i couldnt find it on the repositories. i had to download it and use the install script...but yea. |
| 19:39.04 | Al2O3 | rhys, thank you. |
| 19:39.06 | Blissex | bloh: 'mount' cannot do that. Use shell backticks |
| 19:39.17 | Coweater | thevic: most channels clear their banlists somewhat regularly, just take it as a warning and you can probably go back within a few days to a week |
| 19:39.22 | cberlo | Well, gotta run down to my server to play a bit more here. Thanks for the help! |
| 19:39.25 | rhys | apt-cache search opera may work, to at least give you the name for dkpg |
| 19:39.30 | Al2O3 | stew, just a question for you, do you always react this way to questions about debian (whatever distro)? |
| 19:39.44 | stew | Al2O3: becuase its the channel's policy |
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| 19:39.57 | bloh | backticks? |
| 19:40.00 | stew | jelly-home: i don't know... |
| 19:40.04 | Blissex | as to Opera, Opera maintains a repository of Opera .deb packages, you can just add it to '/etc/apt/sources.list' |
| 19:40.32 | stew | thevic: if there is a chanserv, you could try "/msg ChanServer access #debian list" which would tell you who the ops are |
| 19:40.47 | jelly-home | rhys: apt will work only on aptable repositories (and, to some degree, on packages that are already installed), so apt-cache is not much help for opera. |
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| 19:40.55 | amphi | rhys: what are you trying to do? use a dialup box as an internet router for lan machines? |
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| 19:41.16 | rhys | amphi, true. |
| 19:41.29 | rhys | Al2O3, http://deb.opera.com/opera/ |
| 19:41.34 | amphi | rhys: what's the problem? |
| 19:42.18 | rhys | i dont know how to get it to set DNS servers for all the boxes, nor how to foward ppp0 to eth0 |
| 19:42.48 | [Gabe] | Hey guys..so I just realized Debian chroots postfix and adds in a recipient table with the current passwd file..is there a way to do a proxy so its always current? |
| 19:43.09 | thevic | stew i would have to do that from the channel though yes? |
| 19:43.14 | stew | thevic: no |
| 19:43.19 | amphi | rhys: 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' and 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE' should do, assuming the FORWARD chain's policy is 'ACCEPT' |
| 19:43.25 | stew | thevic: but i don't know if effnet has such services |
| 19:43.28 | Al2O3 | rhys, ty, grabbed and trying to install now the static |
| 19:43.32 | jade | broplem solved! |
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| 19:43.50 | Eulex | broplem :) |
| 19:44.03 | rhys | Al2O3, thank Blissex, i just g debian opera repository. :D |
| 19:44.09 | amphi | rhys: and set the other machines' default gateway to the ip address of the LAN interface on the gateway box |
| 19:44.18 | thevic | stew i tried what you put in quotes in freenode and i get "ChanServer :No such nick/channel" |
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| 19:44.26 | rhys | and it will automaticly set the DNS servers for them amphi ? |
| 19:44.37 | amphi | rhys: you could install dnsmasq on the gw machine and have the other machines use that as a nameserver |
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| 19:44.43 | stew | thevic: try ChanServ, not Chanserver |
| 19:44.52 | la | hello, i'm trying to install ati drivers in debian and i only get fails and i don't find any information about my errors, please, anybody can help me? (sorry for my bad english, i'm spanish :)) |
| 19:45.15 | stew | thevic: or just forget effnet and stay here or go to oftc (irc.debian.org) |
| 19:45.17 | rhys | dnsmasq then would act as the server for my lan, and my ISPs DNS servers would be dnsmasq's server? |
| 19:45.29 | kementeus | does somebody has experience configuring debian as a ads client? |
| 19:45.34 | amphi | rhys: dnsmasq is a caching dns forwarding that I found speeds things up noticeably on dialup |
| 19:45.36 | thevic | stew ... thnx ... i think i will stay here it's more active and friendlier : ) |
| 19:45.37 | kementeus | ads = active directory server |
| 19:45.48 | blondie | kementeus: what kind of client? |
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| 19:45.59 | rhys | aye amphi , i usually try to run a caching name server. dnsmasq then |
| 19:46.10 | blondie | (to do what - authenticate users logging on?) |
| 19:46.15 | rhys | but untill now, iv always run it on like smoothwall or ipcop or freesco |
| 19:46.21 | amphi | rhys: exactly - dnsmasq on the gw is configured to use the ISP's name servers |
| 19:46.46 | rhys | right now i want to set up a general purpose server, with alot of stuff, so im turning to general debian, but i still need what smoothwall and ipcop had. |
| 19:47.14 | rhys | and yes i know thats not the best security practice. |
| 19:47.27 | Al2O3 | boing! rhys , jelly-home , and even stew, thank you :) Opera 9 is installed on my Debian based system (albeit the flavor today is Knoppix) |
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| 19:47.29 | Al2O3 | boing |
| 19:47.49 | amphi | rhys: I don't know about those two - are they just frontends to iptables? |
| 19:47.53 | blondie | asking knoppix questions in here? :O |
| 19:48.01 | rhys | you bastard. Al2O3 come back to debian, knoppix is for cds. use true debian! |
| 19:48.16 | amphi | burn the witch! ;) |
| 19:49.05 | |dennis| | Question: http://pastebin.ca/73383 |
| 19:49.09 | rhys | amphi , about. http front ends for alot. they are pretty. squid, a java ssh client, hmmdedum, vpn support, snort |
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| 19:49.33 | Al2O3 | hehehe, this is for my kids, and wife to use while on contract. Better than leaving them with Windblows 98 |
| 19:49.59 | mantang0 | is there a problem with security.debian.org? |
| 19:49.59 | rhys | traphic graphs, dyndns clients. they are made to act just like a linksys or USR router, so any idiot can configure them |
| 19:50.01 | mantang0 | Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz MD5Sum mismatch |
| 19:50.04 | Al2O3 | I'm actually a real loser and use OSX professionally to make money. I so want to escape to the mountains and free my mind from the SJBukkake I get every time I boot into OSX on my eMac. |
| 19:50.17 | Maulkin | mantang0: Erm... |
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| 19:50.23 | Al2O3 | but I thank folks that are helpful, and many here are clearly practical :) ty again. |
| 19:50.27 | Maulkin | mantang0: That doesn't sound good. |
| 19:50.31 | Maulkin | mantang0: Checking |
| 19:50.51 | rhys | Al2O3, thats right. use a mac. they come in "flavors". let the pretty colors amuse you. congradulations, you have a blender. |
| 19:51.15 | Al2O3 | blend away. |
| 19:51.16 | mantang0 | i just installed testing from the daily netinst.iso so it could be that... ir i could have arsed something up somewhere.. mustn't rule that out :) |
| 19:51.43 | rhys | i got ahold of an HP B108L workstation. PA-RISC arch. and the nice thing, there is a complete debian port to it. :D |
| 19:51.48 | jelly-home | |dennis|: might be sshfs. if it's KDE, it may be using it's own "fish" kdeio. I think Gnome has its own vfs abstraction for ssh too. |
| 19:51.49 | Maulkin | mantang0: Try apt-get update |
| 19:51.53 | Al2O3 | rhys, cool. |
| 19:52.17 | Al2O3 | I'm not a purist on OS, if it works, makes money, does what it is supposed to do or can be augmented, I'm for it. |
| 19:52.26 | jelly-home | |dennis|: I'm using sshfs regularly but would not call it fast. |
| 19:52.33 | |dennis| | jelly-home: I am using Gnome......and yeah i read about it being embedded in the kernel now..insted of installing it seperatly.. |
| 19:52.49 | |dennis| | jelly-home: would it not be better than NFS? |
| 19:52.58 | |dennis| | we constantly have problems with NFS |
| 19:53.04 | rhys | im using windows right now. :D the nice thing, i use SharpE shell, and have it configured...so while its not the fastest, or most efficent, i dont fuck with it. so it doesnt break. its my workhorse for now. |
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| 19:53.41 | cat | hey everyone |
| 19:53.55 | blondie | cat: mew |
| 19:53.58 | itchi | cat: hello |
| 19:54.02 | rhys | *windows XP pro. VLA and sharpe get rid of all those pesky reminders to update, and firewall, and such |
| 19:54.08 | cat | hey itchi wuz up |
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| 19:54.38 | mantang0 | Maulkin: nope.. still the same |
| 19:54.44 | itchi | cat: Good good, i try to setup my fglrx in Ethc |
| 19:54.57 | jelly-home | |dennis|: well, I haven't used nfs with that many simultaneous clients, but I guess it ought to be faster than any high-level gui abstraction or a fuse filesystem like sshfs. |
| 19:55.04 | Maulkin | mantang0: Ok, looks like an error. |
| 19:55.09 | Maulkin | mantang0: Looking into it |
| 19:55.11 | cat | itchi: i already fixed my eth1 |
| 19:55.12 | cat | =) |
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| 19:56.33 | |dennis| | jelly-home: well truly we dont know if it is a lot faster. we right no have nfs and its very annoying. using sshfs with so many cleints might not be that good either. but i have to try it out....oh well..will look into it..thanks a million. |
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| 19:57.39 | itchi | cat: Your wireles if i remember |
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| 19:58.48 | crazy_penguin | hi all! |
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| 20:02.47 | kementeus | blondie, I'm just trying to configure the ads auth in my local debian server |
| 20:03.04 | kementeus | I'm using the guide http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/340 |
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| 20:03.46 | blondie | kementeus: oh, for samba |
| 20:03.46 | kementeus | but when i do kinit administrator@THEDOMAIN i got the following error KDC has no support for encryption type while getting initial credentials |
| 20:03.46 | kementeus | any idea? |
| 20:04.28 | bloh | why sudo mount enters a loop instead of exec mount ? |
| 20:04.38 | blondie | dunno |
| 20:04.38 | cat | hey how come my sound isn't working at all |
| 20:04.45 | cat | i already did alsaconf |
| 20:04.49 | cat | and everything went out fine, |
| 20:04.54 | blondie | speakers switched on? |
| 20:04.58 | cat | but now i'm trying to play an mp3, and it doesn't work |
| 20:05.24 | cat | x[] xVol x |
| 20:05.24 | cat | xFailed to open sound device. x[<]+ %[>]x |
| 20:05.32 | cat | that's the error I'm getting |
| 20:06.28 | cat | any ideas? |
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| 20:07.42 | bloh | help me typing sudo mount %params% enters a loop instead of exec ;( |
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| 20:09.05 | itchi | cat: You need to say to your player that he need to use OSS or Alsa |
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| 20:10.30 | itchi | brb |
| 20:10.52 | Maulkin | mantang0: It's being regenerated now. Try again in a bit |
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| 20:11.56 | luddite | hey all, has there been much improvement with xorg and nvidia,(in the last month or so it was broke, Nvidia i mean) |
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| 20:13.48 | mantang0 | Maulkin: will do. thanks |
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| 20:17.10 | rollergrrl | hello? |
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| 20:17.47 | Maulkin | hi |
| 20:17.53 | ravelo | is ftp.de.debian.org down? |
| 20:18.06 | ravelo | maybe i try to replace it with ftp.debian.org ... |
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| 20:18.08 | Maulkin | IIRC, it's got some problems at the moment, yes |
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| 20:19.10 | tjostolf | I can't make sshfs work. I'm told I module is needed, and in the installation apt said i might need fuse-module, but apt-cache show fuse-module gives nothing (on sarge) |
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| 20:20.41 | ravelo | no, changing to ftp.debian.org did not work |
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| 20:20.47 | ravelo | anyway, i try tomorrow |
| 20:20.49 | ravelo | thx |
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| 20:22.19 | HuK0B | Hi I have some problem with network I think when I try to ping my host from other machine first 3 pings are good then tell me redirecting to next hop and then ttl exceed what can be the problem? |
| 20:23.36 | Vasistha_ | HuK0B: hmm, have you considered putting a longer time-lapse between the pings? There may be something blocking ping floods :P |
| 20:24.11 | nvz | if you ping more than twice you're just playing with it.. is what I heard :P |
| 20:24.35 | HuK0B | now I just try normal ping |
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| 20:24.58 | HuK0B | to one machine in same network everything is ok |
| 20:24.58 | HuK0B | to other is not |
| 20:24.58 | Vasistha_ | nvz: I once used ping floods intra-network to test wireless connectivity :D |
| 20:25.02 | thevic | is there a recommended place (ie website) that i can go to get the sources i should have in my sources.list? or sources that would be good for that? |
| 20:25.11 | nvz | oh man I apperently didnt sleep enough of didnt wake up properly bad jokes are starting already |
| 20:25.18 | Vasistha_ | thevic: check out mirrors.list |
| 20:25.46 | HuK0B | what can be the problem to give me ttl exceed? |
| 20:25.58 | HuK0B | sometime ping sometime ttl exceed? |
| 20:26.04 | Vasistha_ | HuK0B: it could be a firewall is blocking the ping, are you having other network troubles as well? |
| 20:26.08 | HuK0B | I go trought same routers |
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| 20:26.30 | HuK0B | but I don't think I have firewall on the router |
| 20:26.32 | Vasistha_ | HuK0B: for example I know that windows xp's SP2 firewall blocks pings by default, and so do some linux distros |
| 20:26.39 | nvz | thevic: debian mirrors list is available on http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or you could use apt-setup which uses the list on your system as Vasistha_ pointed out |
| 20:27.19 | HuK0B | ok then it is normal right? |
| 20:27.30 | Vasistha_ | nvz: there's a program called netselect-apt that tries to scan for the fastest network connection, but I personally chose to just pick a close mirror from the mirrors list |
| 20:27.52 | nvz | Vasistha_: never heard of it.. though I have heard of apt-spy |
| 20:27.58 | mantang0 | Maulkin: I'm not sure how long the regeneration should take. Is this something I need to schedule for tomorrow morning, or is it just a few minutes more? |
| 20:28.02 | mantang0 | impatient, me? :) |
| 20:28.14 | Vasistha_ | nvz: oops, meant that for thevic ;-) |
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| 20:28.21 | HuK0B | one more question when I try from some local machine to ping another one it give me all the time redirect nexthop |
| 20:28.23 | HuK0B | why? |
| 20:28.37 | Vasistha_ | HuK0B: could be, hard to say. If you don't know what's going on with the software firewalls, then it's hard to say what the correct behavior should be. |
| 20:28.45 | snd-ca0106 | there's a command to call the "Create shortcut" dialog via script ? |
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| 20:29.15 | Vasistha_ | snd-ca0106: 'create shortcut' that sounds like a windows question. do you want a linux symlink? |
| 20:29.26 | HuK0B | Vasistha_ what do you think the problem is in router or in machine that I want to ping? |
| 20:29.56 | Vasistha_ | HuK0B: I have no idea ;-) |
| 20:29.56 | snd-ca0106 | if i right click on desktop (kde) there's a Create link to app. option |
| 20:30.00 | snd-ca0106 | i wanna do the same thing a clicking there using a command if possible |
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| 20:30.51 | ribnitz | snd-ca0106: In a terminal, there is the 'ln' command. It creates symbolic or hard links. |
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| 20:31.20 | snd-ca0106 | i just wanna popup the create shortcut dialog |
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| 20:31.31 | snd-ca0106 | don't need the ability to create th e link |
| 20:31.38 | nvz | heh |
| 20:32.32 | nvz | snd-ca0106: ask #debian-kde or #kde but dont confuse them like you did us. be specific about what it is you are trying to do. |
| 20:33.01 | edju | Excuse the noobie stuff - Debian installs from source, not binary? |
| 20:33.14 | thevic | i'm running samba v-3.0.14a-Debian on debian sarge ..... accorrding to http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/samba, 3.0.14a-3sarge1 is available. ... this is newer than the one i have ya? if so, how come it isn't listed when i apt-get upgrade? ... i've got "deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main" listed in my sources.list ..... |
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| 20:33.25 | ribnitz | edju: the installer installs binary packages. |
| 20:34.13 | ribnitz | thevic: did you update, and do you have security sourcves? |
| 20:35.39 | mantang0 | Maulkin: Working now. Thanks muchly! |
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| 20:36.15 | tjostolf | snd-ca0106: i don't use kde, but i think you can just write a normal command in the appropriate field, and then use the icon to execute it. |
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| 20:36.47 | edju | ribnitz, Then what is the dpkg-source utility? |
| 20:37.23 | ribnitz | edju: thats for developers. to build the packages. |
| 20:37.29 | Vasistha_ | thevic: do you have security updates in your sources.list ? |
| 20:37.32 | pigor | hello. i want to configure xterm. it should start with a greater font. i dont want to change it with "CRTL+RIGHT_MOUSE" every time. |
| 20:37.44 | pigor | how? |
| 20:37.55 | edju | ribnitz, I see. Thanks. |
| 20:38.01 | ribnitz | edju: http://www.debian.org/devel |
| 20:38.14 | thevic | oh yeh it's always the little things .... i've got <deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main><deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main><deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main><deb ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ stable main non-free contrib><deb-src ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ stable main non-free contrib><deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main><deb http://mirrors.kernel |
| 20:38.14 | thevic | .org/debian/ testing main><deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main><deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main><deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main><deb ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ testing main non-free contrib><deb-src ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ testing main non-free contrib><deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main> |
| 20:38.17 | Vasistha_ | pigor: I don't know myself, but I'd start with google.com/linux xterm default font |
| 20:38.24 | thevic | sry! dint mean to flood! |
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| 20:38.30 | Vasistha_ | !paste |
| 20:38.31 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 20:38.32 | snd-ca0106 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.42 | schemebow | If I generate all locales, will I have less characters rendered as squares? |
| 20:39.00 | pigor | Vasistha: hmm ... i will try it ... mom |
| 20:39.01 | peterS | pigor: that's where you get into the realm of X resources. much fun. my ~/.Xresources for example has the line: XTerm.vt100.font: -*-bitstream vera sans mono-bold-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-m-*-*-* |
| 20:39.19 | peterS | pigor: (I got the string from the utility 'xfontsel') |
| 20:39.24 | ribnitz | schemebow: possibly, you also need the missingf font packages. |
| 20:39.26 | snd-ca0106 | .so files can be executed ? |
| 20:39.34 | Vasistha_ | snd-ca0106: when you surround a nick with <angle-brackets> it looks to some of us like you're quoting the person ... could you highlight another way, like with a colon or a comma or something? |
| 20:39.48 | tjostolf | snd-ca0106: well, make the icon point to the script |
| 20:39.52 | peterS | snd-ca0106: not usually. /lib/ld-linux.so.2 is an exception. |
| 20:39.54 | schemebow | ribnitz: missingf is not a debian package. |
| 20:40.07 | pigor | peterS: looks a little bit mysterious ;-) but i will try it ... thanks |
| 20:40.26 | thevic | !paste |
| 20:40.26 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 20:40.44 | peterS | pigor: you can use more friendly font strings these days, with fontconfig support, but I never figured all that out, I still use the old-style X font strings, known as 'XLFD' (X logical font descriptor) |
| 20:40.54 | ribnitz | schemebow: dpkg -l xfonts\* |grep ii|wc -l |
| 20:40.54 | ribnitz | 12 |
| 20:40.56 | snd-ca0106 | i mean i noticed libkshorturifilter.so is opened while CreateShortcut dialog is displayed; SO i thought that was the dialog executable |
| 20:40.57 | k31th | right let me see if i have read this correctly. If i add this line to my main.cf "virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual" then create a file at /etc/postfix/virtual" containing enterys such as "user@blah.com k31th" |
| 20:41.02 | k31th | the user@blah.com's emails will go to the user k31th ? |
| 20:41.06 | peterS | ribnitz: use grep -c instead of grep | wc -l |
| 20:41.30 | pigor | peterS: thanks |
| 20:41.52 | Vasistha_ | snd-ca0106: can't help wondering why you're trying to integrate a gui element into a script? Are you just not aware of how to do the operations without going through the gui, or do you actually want to see something happen on the screen? |
| 20:41.58 | thevic | http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 20:42.00 | schemebow | ribnitz: I thought you referred to "missingf" and apt-get install missingf fails. I already have those other packages. But thanks for your help |
| 20:42.03 | ribnitz | peterS: or od it with sed, or use awk.. |
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| 20:42.18 | peterS | ribnitz: I'm just saying, if you are using grep anyway, may as well use grep -c and save some typing |
| 20:42.18 | snd-ca0106 | i actually want to see something happen on the screen? |
| 20:42.32 | peterS | ribnitz: this is for future reference, so you know it's available |
| 20:42.39 | Vasistha_ | snd-ca0106: is that a question? :P |
| 20:43.04 | Vasistha_ | thevic: you'll need to actually get the number from your paste, it's not in your address bad |
| 20:43.07 | Vasistha_ | s/bad/bar/ |
| 20:43.10 | tjostolf | pigor: i use: Xterm*font: 7x14 |
| 20:43.19 | snd-ca0106 | forgive the ? |
| 20:43.26 | snd-ca0106 | i just copied the string |
| 20:43.30 | snd-ca0106 | to answer |
| 20:43.40 | ribnitz | schemebow: xfonts-75/100dpi,xfonts-base,...-base-transcoded,-bolkhov,-cronyx(75/100dpi),-dosemu,-encodings,-scalable, -terminus, and -utils. |
| 20:43.43 | thevic | Vasistha_ sorry ... can you be more specific? |
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| 20:44.10 | Vasistha_ | thevic: you pasted a link to http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste but that isn't the right link, it should have a number in it |
| 20:44.21 | ribnitz | schemebow: Burmese wikuipedia still has problems, most others work though. |
| 20:44.21 | peterS | tjostolf: heh, true, you can use those aliases, but I wanted bitstream vera sans mono (: |
| 20:44.21 | schemebow | ribnitz: I was already using the hack and slash method (getting them all) |
| 20:44.33 | thevic | oooh ... http://channels.debian.net/paste/2963 |
| 20:44.47 | schemebow | ribnitz: I am mostly interested in mathematical symbols. |
| 20:44.49 | Vasistha_ | much better ;-) |
| 20:45.00 | ribnitz | schemebow: latex. |
| 20:45.16 | schemebow | ribnitz: I want to use them in my program source. |
| 20:45.31 | k31th | this may run the risk of being a "lame" question but... im running mail for say 30 domains... wats best to use postfix or sendmail ? |
| 20:45.35 | ribnitz | schemebow: what language? |
| 20:45.35 | thevic | ^_^ .... so yea ... i did apt-get update, and upgrade .... no samba 3.0.14a-3sarge1 |
| 20:45.53 | schemebow | ribnitz: does't matter |
| 20:45.58 | schemebow | ribnitz: editor support matters |
| 20:45.58 | ribnitz | k31th: that may spark a war, I use exim4.. |
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| 20:46.14 | schemebow | ribnitz: and the compiler/interpreter must support it, which it does. |
| 20:46.28 | Vasistha_ | thevic: first, you sure you know what you're doing mixing testing and stable? Second, you might want to add contrib and non-free to a bunch of those lines |
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| 20:46.49 | ribnitz | schemebow: most compilers dont support beyond the 256 char ascii. |
| 20:46.58 | schemebow | ribnitz: Do you happen to know a font which has lots of support for those kinds of symbols? |
| 20:47.02 | k31th | ribnitz: i may stick with the devil i know. I have sendmail setup atm i could just copy the config files over from that box ? |
| 20:47.12 | schemebow | ribnitz: Most compilers are for C, which I do not intend to use. |
| 20:47.30 | thevic | well ... i THINK i know what i'm doing ....i have the sneaking suspicion the way i have it set up isn't doing exactly what i want it to do .... |
| 20:47.34 | peterS | ribnitz: technically, ascii only has 128 characters in it. so I'm not sure what you meant there |
| 20:47.46 | schemebow | peterS: yeah |
| 20:47.59 | Vasistha_ | thevic: you're not running amd64 are you? |
| 20:48.00 | ribnitz | k31th: My suggestion: use whatever you are comfortable with. but do a proper job with setting it up. no hacks. |
| 20:48.00 | peterS | schemebow: the bitstream vera family supports quite a few characters. I am unsure of exactly which ones. |
| 20:48.21 | thevic | no ... i'm running pIII |
| 20:48.28 | schemebow | schemebow: I tried a few of that family, but I was disappointed. |
| 20:48.31 | peterS | schemebow: (the 'ttf-bitstream-vera' package) |
| 20:48.31 | thevic | you mean non-free contrib to each line that doesn't have it? |
| 20:48.52 | k31th | Does anyone know how to setup virtualusers with postfix ? thats all i need to do now. And im sorted |
| 20:48.55 | ribnitz | peterS: I meant that forget support for things like en iso-8859-x |
| 20:49.17 | ribnitz | k31th: asked #postfix yet? |
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| 20:49.23 | Vasistha_ | thevic: yeah, although upon closer inspection, it appears that samba is in main :P |
| 20:49.34 | thevic | if i have "APT::Default-Release "stable"" in my apt.conf file, it should choose the stable sources over the testing ones shouldn't it? |
| 20:49.36 | peterS | k31th: yeah, seriously, the answer won't be debian-specific, so they will know more in #postfix than we do here |
| 20:49.39 | schemebow | peterS: I also have Windows fonts, but I don't know one that supports a very large set of math symbols. |
| 20:49.48 | k31th | ok kool ill ask them |
| 20:49.50 | kaiSVK | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.50 | Vasistha_ | thevic: I believe that's right |
| 20:49.58 | ribnitz | peterS: also, variables that dont start with the usual A-Z,a-z,_ are often a problem. |
| 20:49.59 | k31th | lol |
| 20:50.09 | thevic | vasistha_ what do you mean samba is in main? |
| 20:50.28 | Vasistha_ | thevic: I don't think it's in contrib or non-free, I think it's in main |
| 20:50.40 | ribnitz | Vasistha_: itz is in main |
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| 20:52.00 | thevic | k ... i think im slightly confused on main vs contrib vs non-free .... can they all be in one sources.list entry? or is it good to have a separate entry for each ....? |
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| 20:52.29 | schemebow | thevic: why don't you read Debian's manual? It will save you time. |
| 20:52.35 | fauxalliance | oh dear, courier-authmysql, whats on the go, did the replace another package with this? mail is delivered, but i cant get it. |
| 20:53.21 | peterS | thevic: you can put them all on one line. but you don't need contrib or non-free for most uses. you certainly don't need them for samba. |
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| 20:55.17 | schemebow | I have set my LANG variable somewhere, but I have no idea where. I looked in /etc/profile ~/.profile and .bashrc, where else can it be defined? |
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| 20:55.42 | war92 | anyone here use an Areca RAID card? |
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| 20:56.06 | cpe | /whois cpe |
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| 20:56.28 | peterS | schemebow: /etc/environment, I think it is set there by 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
| 20:56.32 | thevic | schemebow ... i usually find reading various documentation in conjuction w/ irc helps me understand better .... if im asking a stupid question, i'm sorry, just say so and if you know where i am supposed to be looking, perhaps i may have overlooked it .... |
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| 20:59.06 | fauxalliance | courier-authlib-userdb arrrghhh! |
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| 20:59.24 | schemebow | thevic: I meant to help you. Reading some documentation tends to understand the system better. If you would do apt-get install debian-reference, you can verify whether you like the "manual". |
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| 20:59.39 | schemebow | *help understand |
| 21:00.07 | schemebow | peterS: thanks |
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| 21:01.35 | louafca | is there any way you can capture a stream of another pty? |
| 21:04.20 | thevic | schemebow thnx ... i did not know about debian-reference. ... though now that you mention it .... i'm like d'oh why didn't i think of that? |
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| 21:05.12 | fauxalliance | imapd-ssl: LOGIN FAILED, method=PLAIN, ip=[::ffff:'$ip'] does that look familliar to anyone? |
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| 21:05.53 | schemebow | peterS: LANGUAGE="nl:en_GB:en" |
| 21:05.54 | schemebow | LANG=nl_NL@euro |
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| 21:06.35 | schemebow | peterS: I just ran dpkg-reconfigure locales and changed it to nl_NL.UTF8, but the change it not reflected. |
| 21:06.50 | schemebow | peterS: I need to relogin for it to take effect? |
| 21:07.11 | Derevko | schemebow: yes |
| 21:07.14 | peterS | schemebow: yes, environment variables aren't automatically changed like that, you want to re-login |
| 21:07.53 | schemebow | peterS: I hate that "feature", same with change of group permissions. |
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| 21:08.40 | peterS | schemebow: the fact that each process has its own properties, including environment variables and group memberships, and that processes inherit these things from their parents - it's a fundamental design in unix which isn't going to change |
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| 21:09.22 | peterS | schemebow: the MS-DOS world where there's only one environment, so anyone who changes a variable changes it for every process ... I don't like that at all |
| 21:09.32 | schemebow | peterS: yeah, I know, but sometimes it isn't the best, maybe on average it is. |
| 21:09.54 | schemebow | peterS: An interface for telling a program that a certain variable changed would be nice. |
| 21:10.05 | stew | you can use newgrp to get the newer group privileges, but it changes your default group so if you create files in the newgrp shell... |
| 21:10.14 | RiverRat | DOS inherits the environment from the parent. The PSP (Program Segment Prefix) has a pointer to it. |
| 21:10.15 | stew | maybe newgrp twice though |
| 21:10.23 | peterS | schemebow: programs that use X have such a mechanism, it's called X resources and X atoms |
| 21:10.43 | schemebow | peterS: X atoms is a new term for me. /google |
| 21:11.01 | peterS | schemebow: atoms aren't really useful except for low-level things like copy / paste mechanisms |
| 21:11.16 | peterS | as a _user_ you hardly ever encounter them |
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| 21:11.48 | peterS | but you could consider all the atoms registered with a particular X server as "environment variables" that have the duration and scope of a single login session |
| 21:12.26 | schemebow | peterS: Is Emacs*foreground an atom? |
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| 21:12.43 | peterS | schemebow: that's a resource |
| 21:13.15 | peterS | schemebow: you can set and query resources with various options of 'xrdb' |
| 21:13.27 | peterS | schemebow: also, not all X programs immediately react to changes in resources. a few do. |
| 21:13.41 | schemebow | peterS: Yes, I did that while trying to find a good UTF-8 font. |
| 21:14.13 | schemebow | peterS: X has a notify system for it? |
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| 21:14.58 | peterS | schemebow: I think so. it's been _so_ long since I've read those books on the X protocol, and I never really put my knowledge to use (my only GUI programs have used higher-level toolkits like GTK) |
| 21:15.15 | jade | good article from Bill Gates on his workspace setup http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/30/news/newsmakers/gates_howiwork_fortune/index.htm |
| 21:15.24 | peterS | schemebow: I think X resources are implemented using atoms, actually, but I forget the details. resources are a construct of the Xt library, I believe |
| 21:15.36 | peterS | jade: uh, Bill who? this is #debian |
| 21:15.41 | schemebow | peterS: That's what I meant |
| 21:15.52 | schemebow | jade: He uses Linux????? ;) |
| 21:16.03 | jade | :D |
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| 21:19.42 | mage__ | anyone know of an editor for TIFF tags? |
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| 21:22.04 | cureless | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.07 | dondelelcaro | mage__: Image::Info can read them, most likely imagemagick can edit them. |
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| 21:23.17 | amitar | anyone know what's linux-kbuild-2.6.17 package's supposed to be? (bug #368544) |
| 21:23.32 | linuxmonkey | hey guys just installed apache on debian and .htaccess files are not working yer their enabled in my config, any ideas |
| 21:24.20 | stew | linuxmonkey: how did you enable them? did you check the apache error log? |
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| 21:25.31 | amitar | re: bug #368544 - If I just create an equivs package supplying it, will module-assistant work? (apparently it must have linux-headers installed) |
| 21:27.02 | linuxmonkey | stew no errors at all |
| 21:27.16 | stew | linuxmonkey: how did you enable it in your apache config? |
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| 21:27.53 | Sivik | error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy |
| 21:27.55 | Sivik | what does that mean? |
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| 21:28.47 | linuxmonkey | stew isnt it just this... http://pastebin.ca/73459 |
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| 21:30.13 | Sivik | is anyone alive here? |
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| 21:30.50 | peterS | Sivik: theoretically |
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| 21:31.13 | Sivik | error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy |
| 21:31.13 | schemebow | peterS: I logged in again, but /etc/environment does not contain the new information. |
| 21:31.15 | Sivik | what does that mean |
| 21:32.03 | amitar | sivik: dunno, but: which program issued that? which distro your'e using? which version of X? |
| 21:32.16 | Sivik | startx |
| 21:32.23 | Sivik | i'm using ubuntu, not sure what version of x |
| 21:32.28 | Sivik | how do i tell what version of x? |
| 21:32.34 | blondie | !ubuntu |
| 21:32.34 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
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| 21:32.36 | peterS | Sivik: ubuntu will differ from debian in that regard |
| 21:32.40 | peterS | Sivik: so we probably can't help you at all |
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| 21:32.41 | blondie | Sivik: this isn't a ubuntu channel |
| 21:32.42 | k-god | Sivik: dpkg -l | grep xserver |
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| 21:32.54 | Sivik | blondie, no shit, no one in there is being helpful, their being assholes |
| 21:33.01 | linuxmonkey | stew: any ideas |
| 21:33.03 | k-god | !tell Sivik about ubuntu |
| 21:33.07 | blondie | Sivik: well, doesn't mean we'll help |
| 21:33.14 | Sivik | blondie, eat shit and die |
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| 21:33.21 | blondie | lol |
| 21:33.21 | stoned | hello |
| 21:33.32 | peterS | Sivik: well, it's just that your particular question is likely to have a different answer on ubuntu and debian, since we don't have a /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy at all |
| 21:33.41 | k-god | Well that's a way to make friends and influence people. |
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| 21:33.51 | kementeus | somebody with ads auth and debian here? |
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| 21:33.56 | Sivik | thats what i have to say to you blondie |
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| 21:33.59 | kementeus | or I still been alone in the world? |
| 21:34.08 | amitar | sivik: try dpkg --search `which X` |
| 21:34.20 | Maulkin | Oh, and stop abusing people in #debian |
| 21:34.29 | abrotman | linuxmonkey: tried asking #apache ? |
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| 21:34.39 | blondie | kementeus: you might have better luck in #samba maybe |
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| 21:34.45 | Spec[x] | sivik was rude :-/ |
| 21:34.48 | blondie | (if that's what you want to use it for) |
| 21:34.55 | lith | yo, Hey where is the file that tells bash what colors to use when doing ls --color ? |
| 21:34.56 | Spec[x] | perhaps that's why they were being rude to him in #ubuntu |
| 21:35.03 | kementeus | ok |
| 21:35.20 | peterS | lith: it's not bash, it's ls, and it uses the DIRCOLORS environment variable |
| 21:35.35 | lith | peterS: excellent. where is that set at? |
| 21:35.42 | lith | in profile? |
| 21:35.54 | cureless | lith: man dircolors |
| 21:36.09 | peterS | lith: normally .bashrc, you'll see a line like: eval `dircolors` |
| 21:36.14 | Spec[x] | maybe 'info dircolors' |
| 21:36.16 | Spec[x] | bah, he beat me |
| 21:36.19 | peterS | lith: the dircolors program spits out a default value for the DIRCOLORS variable |
| 21:36.29 | lith | ah righton |
| 21:36.45 | stew | linuxmonkey: you also need to allow "Options +info" for the directories containing .htaccess |
| 21:36.50 | lith | awe shit! I'm trying to setup my darwin (osx) terminal the way debian is... |
| 21:36.54 | peterS | oh, it's LS_COLORS, not DIRCOLORS. silly me. |
| 21:36.58 | lith | and osx doesnt have dircolors lol |
| 21:37.17 | lith | osx's dirs are to dark of a blue, cant see crap |
| 21:37.27 | schemebow | peterS: I don't think dpkg-reconfigure locales changes /etc/environment. This webpage also doesn't: http://www.math.princeton.edu/~jianfeng/debian.htm |
| 21:37.43 | blondie | lith: probably designed for a white background |
| 21:37.46 | peterS | schemebow: I think it used to, but doesn't anymore. I'm not sure what it changes now. |
| 21:37.59 | lith | blondie: yeah... bastards :/ |
| 21:38.03 | schemebow | peterS: Everything changes so fast, it's hard to keep up ;) |
| 21:38.18 | stew | linuxmonkey: actually you might need to add FileInfo AuthConfig, and maybe other options depending on what you are trying to do in the .htaccess |
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| 21:39.10 | nima | whats a command line program for taking screenshots? |
| 21:39.31 | cureless | nima: import(?) |
| 21:39.43 | peterS | !screenshot |
| 21:39.44 | dpkg | well, screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 21:40.13 | cureless | one day dpkg is going to replace us all. |
| 21:40.21 | linuxmonkey | found it |
| 21:40.35 | nima | scrot was what i was looking for, thanks! |
| 21:40.36 | abrotman | dpkg: replace cureless |
| 21:40.39 | abrotman | oh well |
| 21:40.45 | linuxmonkey | stew had to edit the 000-default file.,.didnt know of it |
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| 21:41.57 | ktwilight | linuxmonkey, you should be editing sites-available/default |
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| 21:42.48 | schemebow | Who maintains dpkg? |
| 21:43.01 | abrotman | dpkg: who owns you |
| 21:43.02 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 21:43.02 | Vasistha_2 | schemebow: the bot? ask dpkg who owns you |
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| 21:43.37 | cureless | dpkg: who's your daddy? |
| 21:43.37 | dpkg | you are my daddy, cureless |
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| 21:45.06 | amitar | (repeat) anyone know what's linux-kbuild-2.6.17 package's supposed to be? (bug #368544) - should I just install empty equivs pkg to provide it? |
| 21:45.46 | abrotman | peterS: you want to see them .. or call the factoid? |
| 21:46.06 | peterS | abrotman: the expected barrage of bot abuse didn't happen, so we're all good |
| 21:46.19 | abrotman | peterS: just start with a nickmeter .. that seems to get them going |
| 21:46.24 | peterS | ha |
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| 21:46.44 | abrotman | someday .. i should get a t-shirt that just says ".." |
| 21:46.59 | peterS | abrotman: people will think they're boobies |
| 21:47.00 | Flash_ | ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) |
| 21:47.08 | abrotman | boobies ? |
| 21:47.08 | Flash_ | ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) ( o )( o ) |
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| 21:47.19 | peterS | thanks, dondelelcaro |
| 21:47.42 | concept10 | heh |
| 21:48.36 | abrotman | peterS: they might .. but if i wore it to like DC6 .. some might get it :) |
| 21:49.09 | peterS | abrotman: yeah, IF YOU BOTHERED TO SHOW UP to like dc6 |
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| 21:49.22 | abrotman | peterS: i live to far away to bike like you! |
| 21:49.37 | abrotman | peterS: yes .. i should have gone |
| 21:49.43 | abrotman | too far away |
| 21:49.54 | peterS | abrotman: ha. I did recently bike 175 miles to Topeka, then back a week later, but I don't think I'd ever bike down to the border and 3/4 of the way down mexico |
| 21:50.04 | abrotman | peterS: in one day? |
| 21:50.22 | peterS | abrotman: it took me 14:40 or so to get up there, and 14:52 to get home. more headwind on the way back. |
| 21:50.33 | abrotman | good thing it's summer :) |
| 21:50.33 | peterS | abrotman: but I had a week to rest up in between the two |
| 21:50.42 | abrotman | i do about 30 miles .. max .. |
| 21:50.55 | abrotman | though .. i don't get out enough .. because on a day like today .. it's 6pm and i'm still at work |
| 21:51.00 | peterS | I very rarely ride further than 25 miles at a time, actually |
| 21:51.10 | streuner | How about LanceS? |
| 21:51.21 | nvz | oh well so much for the idea of using my cousins pc to build my apt mirror.. it seems to be dead. I would guess its the ram but who knows. got it to turn on to bios screen once, unplugging all berg connectors and ribbon cables.. now it just randomly turns on to a black screen with or without beeping out an sos |
| 21:51.22 | peterS | this 175-mile thing is definitely a special case. I've done it 5 times ever (twice in the past week) |
| 21:51.41 | streuner | well, there is 'Tour de France' next time ;-) |
| 21:51.43 | abrotman | peterS: and it's flat there! |
| 21:52.04 | peterS | abrotman: relatively. there are certainly hills. they just wouldn't impress someone from western colorado, or for that matter san fransisco |
| 21:52.09 | abrotman | or from PA :) |
| 21:52.21 | peterS | yeah I don't know what the terrain looks like in PA |
| 21:52.34 | nvz | hills and valleys |
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| 21:52.42 | peterS | there are a lot more hills in NE kansas than in southern kansas |
| 21:52.47 | nvz | er like hills, and like valleys and stuff |
| 21:52.48 | cureless | since when did we move #d-o here? |
| 21:53.07 | cureless | and on that subject, I do 10+10 to commute to work. |
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| 21:53.24 | peterS | cureless: miles? not bad, not bad. I used to do 4.5+4.5 every day |
| 21:53.54 | Jemt | Greetz. i have a problem with my wireless network card (Cisco, based on the Aironet chipset). When I reboot, the network card is not detected, even though the module 'airo' is listed in 'lsmod'. When I remove the module (rmmod airo) and reload it again (modprobe airo), the card is found just fine. What's wrong ? |
| 21:54.07 | nvz | I think its funny to hear outsiders say PA. normally people say Pennsylvania unless they are from PA |
| 21:54.40 | abrotman | peterS: depends on the part of PA you're from .. but it can be rough .. not like Colorado .. but rough enough |
| 21:54.56 | abrotman | i wish i could bike to work .. 15-20 on a four lane is a bit much :) |
| 21:55.21 | anabain | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.24 | peterS | abrotman: I think Wichita (where I live) is higher elevation than Topeka (where I went), so that made the trip home slightly harder than the trip out. I'm not sure whether the elevation difference is supposed to be noticeable over that many miles - I can't say I was particularly conscious of it |
| 21:55.42 | nvz | I wish my bike was in good enough shape to ride..we got a rails-to-trails program in morgantown |
| 21:56.00 | abrotman | nvz: we have quite a few out here .. i've gone to meet friends to ride on them .. the one in lebanon is pretty nice |
| 21:56.06 | jay | I want to have a preconfigured .emacs file that will be present under all users of a pc. So when a new user is created they get my prewritten .emacs in their home directory, how can that be done? |
| 21:56.08 | peterS | nvz: unpaved trails wouldn't work for me, I don't have a mountain bike at present. don't want to ride unpaved anything on my road bike |
| 21:56.16 | abrotman | jay: try in /etc/skel/ |
| 21:56.33 | abrotman | http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/railtrails/ |
| 21:56.47 | peterS | jay: yeah either /etc/skel or just drop your config file into /etc/emacs/site-start.d/ |
| 21:56.55 | abrotman | the perkiomen trail that i go on is a R2T site |
| 21:57.00 | nvz | I got another hand-me-down bike but the brake cables are gone, the rear brake arms are gone and the rear rim is bent. seems my cousin was trying to do wheelies and endos on a mountain bike and bent the rim then my brother took the rear breaks off just so the wheel could move |
| 21:57.07 | jay | ok thanks |
| 21:57.47 | nvz | peterS: oh they are paved, and flat too |
| 21:58.08 | abrotman | nvz: not all are paved .. and they are mostly flat .. some have like a 2-3% grade |
| 21:58.14 | nvz | peterS: they tore out the old rail road tracks and paved them and utilized all the old rail bridges |
| 21:58.15 | peterS | nvz: oh, nice then. I was under the impression that rails2trails tended to be just dirt trails, like just taking out the tracks and the gravel |
| 21:58.46 | Jemt | No suggestions to my problem concerning my wireless network adapter ? |
| 21:59.07 | nvz | peterS: its like half a block from my house and goes roughlt from the pa state line, all through morgantown, star city, sabraton.. all the WVU campus pretty much |
| 21:59.16 | peterS | nvz: very nice |
| 21:59.34 | nvz | peterS: its only on the morgantown side of the river though.. the railroads are still in tact on the other side |
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| 22:01.32 | vlt | If I have a running linux (debian/ubuntu/knoppix) on one machine, how to connect to a remote one and start a KDE session in local X? |
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| 22:02.50 | ictah | nlindblad : wait 2 mins spooling up the site |
| 22:03.05 | nvz | peterS: na, the morgantown rails-to-trails takes good care of the trails.. there are mile markers and everything http://www.morgantown.com/trails.htm |
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| 22:05.28 | nvz | peterS: my house is about half a block from that boat ramp in star city on the trail map :P |
| 22:05.28 | stoned | RvGaTe, IM ABOUT TO PLAY MUSIC |
| 22:05.28 | stoned | er.. caps |
| 22:05.29 | stoned | dammit |
| 22:05.48 | RvGaTe | stoned, dont worry stoned |
| 22:05.58 | naxxtor | i'm having a bit of a problem with freenx, where would be the best place to ask about that? |
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| 22:06.07 | RiverRat | vlt: ssh w/ X forwarding is the easiest. |
| 22:06.08 | RvGaTe | stoned, just wanted to tell you im running sid now, WITH nvidia drivers :P |
| 22:06.13 | stoned | cool |
| 22:06.15 | stoned | congrats |
| 22:06.22 | RvGaTe | after a week :P |
| 22:06.31 | stoned | I haven't played guitar all day man, I got an itch in my fingers |
| 22:06.33 | stoned | bbl |
| 22:06.38 | eastwood | i hope X doesnt die on you |
| 22:06.40 | RvGaTe | haha, alright |
| 22:06.50 | RvGaTe | eastwood, it didn't... yet |
| 22:07.12 | eastwood | i gotta confess my nvidia drivers are sid |
| 22:07.17 | eastwood | so is the kernel |
| 22:07.22 | eastwood | but X is etch |
| 22:09.27 | RvGaTe | anyways, im going to sleep |
| 22:09.40 | |dennis| | jelly-home: apparently the GUI the gnome uses runs sftp and that why it appears faster than nfs for me...atleast i think so... |
| 22:09.53 | |dennis| | sftp is used to connect using ssh |
| 22:10.23 | ictah | nlindblad : Plugin intalled |
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| 22:11.30 | stoned | ow, my wrist hurts |
| 22:11.39 | stoned | goddam this narrow carpel tunnel |
| 22:12.01 | stoned | RvGaTe, I decided not to play |
| 22:12.14 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 22:12.41 | stoned | go ahead |
| 22:12.45 | RvGaTe | stoned, you having problems ? |
| 22:12.53 | stoned | apparantly |
| 22:12.55 | stoned | hold on |
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| 22:13.38 | foo | Err, does anyone have the quicktime plugin working? I am trying to watch the spiderman trailer, for example ... http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/large.html ... and I can't get it to work. Mplayer plugin buffers it ... but the darn thing never actually plays. |
| 22:13.53 | itchi | stoned: Im not play on my box, i use an Flight Simulator Fgfs |
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| 22:15.09 | ictah | nlindblad : Yuo still there? |
| 22:15.16 | ictah | *you |
| 22:15.31 | itchi | stoned: I just need to get it working here in Etch, and it's not the case :-/ |
| 22:16.04 | stoned | huh? |
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| 22:16.25 | itchi | stoned: Have you already try Flight Gears Flight Simulator ? |
| 22:16.46 | sng | foo: If you try to play a QT file from the command line with mplayer it will bitch about missing files. Get those from a windows box with quicktime installed drop them into where ever you keep your win32 codecs and bob should be your uncle. |
| 22:18.33 | itchi | foo: Work here on Etch |
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| 22:18.53 | itchi | foo: It's use the mplayer plugin |
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| 22:20.34 | vlt | RiverRat: How to complete the command "ssh -X -l user server ???" |
| 22:20.51 | foo | Err, does anyone have the quicktime plugin working? I am trying to watch the spiderman trailer, for example ... http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/large.html ... and I can't get it to work. Mplayer plugin buffers it ... but the darn thing never actually plays. |
| 22:21.04 | nvz | sng: heh, bob should be your uncle? |
| 22:21.17 | itchi | foo: In Sarge ? |
| 22:21.18 | RiverRat | vlt: ssh -X user@host command |
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| 22:21.26 | stoned | hey |
| 22:21.31 | foo | itchi: unstable... but it's never worked. hm |
| 22:21.40 | blondie | foo: spiderman is an ooold film ;) |
| 22:21.41 | stoned | RiverRat, how can you use ssh like that with & |
| 22:21.44 | stoned | in bg |
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| 22:21.45 | itchi | foo: Have you the mplayer plugin ? |
| 22:21.46 | nvz | foo: stop repeating that qyestion several people have already taken initiative in answering it |
| 22:21.48 | foo | blondie: eh, this is the new one. |
| 22:21.49 | stoned | because if you do that, it doesn't ask for a password |
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| 22:22.01 | foo | itchi: yes |
| 22:22.04 | foo | nvz: uh, what? |
| 22:22.16 | vlt | RiverRat: Yes, but which command? startkde? |
| 22:22.28 | foo | wait, what network am I on |
| 22:22.35 | foo | weird, I think I did ask twice. My bad |
| 22:22.36 | itchi | foo: I have 3 packages about it installed here it's looks quicktime-utils libquicktime0 libquicktime1 |
| 22:23.05 | stoned | RiverRat, ssh -X user@host command & |
| 22:23.05 | RichK | Can you use POSIX character classes in a variable expansion (shell script)? |
| 22:23.23 | RiverRat | -n redirects stdin for background operation (not if passwd needed) |
| 22:23.26 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.38 | stoned | i see |
| 22:24.04 | RiverRat | stoned: That drops ssh in the background instead of command doesn't it? |
| 22:24.07 | foo | itchi: I have those. hmm |
| 22:24.08 | itchi | foo: Try to get that movie localy and try locatly, without embeded in the browser |
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| 22:24.47 | RiverRat | I'd set up a script on the remote machine to background the process and then the script will return. |
| 22:24.53 | RichK | example, foo=${bar//$1*.*[[:digit:]] /} |
| 22:24.57 | foo | itchi: ok |
| 22:24.57 | crazy_penguin | good night to all. sleep weel. :) |
| 22:24.59 | maple | how do you flush local dns cache on a machine? |
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| 22:26.09 | peterS | maple: restart bind9 and/or nscd, whichever you have installed |
| 22:26.13 | peterS | maple: ...I guess |
| 22:26.17 | nvz | crazy_penguin: um, goodnight. its only mid evening here though |
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| 22:26.49 | concept10 | how do I view the dependencies of a package with dpkg? i dont see it in on man page |
| 22:27.19 | nvz | concept10: is the package in your apt-cache or did you d/l it manually? |
| 22:27.33 | vlt | RiverRat: "ssh -X ... startkde" from the client just opened a new kdm login screen on the "server" (where I'm sitting now and logged me off) ... |
| 22:27.45 | foo | itchi: http://pastebin.ca/73498 .. .hm, any ideas? Thanks |
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| 22:27.48 | concept10 | err. escuse me, I meant *dependants* |
| 22:27.55 | concept10 | nvz, ^^ |
| 22:28.13 | itchi | foo: File not found: '/home/foo/.mplayer/default.sub' |
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| 22:28.40 | itchi | foo: Moment i try to get that movie |
| 22:28.44 | foo | itchi: ok, thanks |
| 22:28.55 | RiverRat | vlt: Yeah, I've never tried to open a whole DE remotely. It can be done though. |
| 22:29.00 | dabreegster | itchi: That message is normal I think |
| 22:29.17 | nvz | concept10: if the package is in your cache, you would apt-cache show package and perhaps pipe it through grep Depends |
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| 22:29.41 | itchi | foo : wget http://movies.apple.com/movies/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/spider-man_3-tsr_h.640.mov |
| 22:29.47 | stoned | I tar.bzipped a 700mb file, and it came out to be 83 something MB |
| 22:29.50 | stoned | that can't be right can it? |
| 22:29.51 | nvz | concept10: otherwise you would want to view the package info dpkg -I package.deb |
| 22:30.08 | RiverRat | stoned: If it was source then it probably is. |
| 22:30.10 | concept10 | nvz, for example, I have ppp, pppconfig installed on my system, I wanted to see if anything depends on them before I remove .. the packages are not in cache, cache is clean |
| 22:30.11 | amphi | stoned: lotta zeros in it? ;) |
| 22:30.24 | dabreegster | stoned: It's possible. Somehow a +2GB vob encoded down to 280MB with very slight quality loss. |
| 22:30.38 | norbert_ | ehm, during installation Debian doesn't seem to be detecting the 73gb harddisk in my Dell PowerEdge SC1425, even though the HD is showing up the the boot screen (bios stuff)... any ideas? |
| 22:30.47 | itchi | foo: Or take it a bit simplyer gmplayer http://movies.apple.com/movies/sony_pictures/spider-man_3/spider-man_3-tsr_h.640.mov |
| 22:30.53 | itchi | foo: Here it's work so :-/ |
| 22:31.07 | nvz | concept10: apt-get remove ppp pppconfig, it will ask you if you are sure if they have anything depending on them and list those packages that will ALSO be removed |
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| 22:31.10 | foo | itchi: http://pastebin.ca/73500 |
| 22:31.11 | foo | hmm |
| 22:31.30 | concept10 | nvz, alrighty |
| 22:31.36 | nvz | concept10: apt-get will never do more than what you've asked it without confirmation and telling you what else will happen |
| 22:31.51 | vlt | RiverRat: I normally connect to that machine with ldm from thin clients that booted their kernel via pxe and mounted theie roor fs via nfs. It's preconfigured in LTSP (linux terminal server project). Now with one machine I can't boot that way (pcmcia nic) but live cd starts. |
| 22:31.52 | itchi | foo: Have you the quicktime codecs ? Which one was that ? |
| 22:32.22 | itchi | foo: w32codecs installed ? |
| 22:32.36 | RiverRat | vlt: There is a way to make a locally running [xkg]dm connect to a remote machine. |
| 22:33.02 | itchi | foo: With other movies it work ? |
| 22:33.05 | jelly-home | foo: I got that when I "accidentally" used an unofficial ubuntu repository, instead of marillat's packages. |
| 22:33.11 | itchi | foo: I think to compressed movies |
| 22:33.23 | foo | itchi: yes, I have w32codecs |
| 22:33.27 | foo | itchi: no other movies |
| 22:33.35 | foo | jelly-home: I have always been using marillat's packages. hm |
| 22:33.46 | itchi | foo: Try with an mpeg one and avi. To try to locate the trouble. |
| 22:34.04 | itchi | foo: There's another package we need normally |
| 22:34.24 | foo | http://pastebin.ca/73503 |
| 22:34.27 | foo | itchi: ^^ |
| 22:34.27 | foo | hm |
| 22:34.35 | itchi | foo: ffmpeg |
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| 22:35.18 | foo | itchi: Install it? |
| 22:35.22 | itchi | foo: Line 37. He not find the url ?? |
| 22:35.28 | itchi | foo: Is it not installed ? |
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| 22:35.40 | norbert_ | ehm... Error while running 'modprobe -v aic79xx' |
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| 22:35.44 | jelly-home | foo: the library involved is in libfaac0 package here. Maybe upgrading/downgrading reinstalling mplayer and/or libfaac0 would help. |
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| 22:36.00 | foo | jelly-home: hm, thanks. /me waits for this apt-get upgrade to finish |
| 22:36.04 | itchi | norbert_: Which one error :-) my crystal ball is broken :-p |
| 22:36.14 | jelly-home | foo: are you perhaps mixing etch and sid packages? |
| 22:36.15 | pollywog | I am unable to satisfy the deps for the kernel sources released today as a security update |
| 22:36.20 | foo | jelly-home: hmmm |
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| 22:36.27 | itchi | foo: look to jelly-home ^^ |
| 22:36.46 | foo | http://pastebin.ca/73507 - these are my sources |
| 22:36.49 | foo | I don't think I am |
| 22:36.50 | norbert_ | itchi, ? |
| 22:37.16 | itchi | norbert_: Pay not attention :-p im a joker :-) |
| 22:37.20 | pollywog | if I wget the new kernel deb package and install it isn't there a risk my machine will not boot? |
| 22:38.01 | RiverRat | pollywog: Make a grub entry for the existing kernel AND the new one and then you can always revert to the old one. |
| 22:38.02 | jelly-home | foo: btw. marillat's sources.list lines has changed, /msg dpkg marillat.sid |
| 22:38.10 | pollywog | that is why I want to do a custom compile, so I can boot to the old one |
| 22:38.18 | pollywog | RiverRat: they are the same version |
| 22:38.20 | itchi | norbert_: Is there not an security line missing ? I not know about sid :-/ |
| 22:38.20 | foo | jelly-home: hm, yeah, I kept getting errors. that would explain it. heh. thanks |
| 22:38.27 | itchi | oeps |
| 22:38.35 | itchi | foo: Is there not an security line missing ? I not know about sid :-/ |
| 22:38.46 | RiverRat | pollywog: I have about 30 grub entries. Don't be scared to create more just give the new kerenels unique names. |
| 22:38.55 | jelly-home | itchi: there is no sid security repo. |
| 22:39.10 | foo | hmm |
| 22:39.17 | pollywog | RiverRat: I am confused; can I do that with stock kernels of same version? |
| 22:39.17 | itchi | jelly-home: That's crazy, secutity by the hand :-/ |
| 22:39.24 | RiverRat | Is sid the testing branch still? |
| 22:39.39 | mage__ | I thought sid was unstable |
| 22:39.42 | foo | It is |
| 22:39.43 | wireddd | sid is always unstable |
| 22:39.44 | itchi | RiverRat: Non unstable |
| 22:39.46 | RiverRat | pollywog: I'm sure you can but as a Gentoo user I can't give you the deatils. |
| 22:39.52 | pollywog | uh oh |
| 22:40.19 | itchi | RiverRat: Sid keep always the code name of sid. It's an broken toy :-) Look to the Toy story |
| 22:40.21 | pollywog | I guess I will need to install a stock 2.6.7 kernel as backup |
| 22:40.37 | mage__ | took a year for the unstable stable testing stuff to make sense |
| 22:41.01 | RiverRat | itchi: So when you release a new version sid will still be the unstable release? Cool. |
| 22:41.13 | norbert_ | who can help me get the harddisk of a 1u Dell machine to work (be detected by Debian) during installation? |
| 22:41.15 | itchi | RiverRat: Yes, broken toy :-) |
| 22:41.20 | pollywog | unless someone can tell me how to meet the deps for the 2.6.8 kernel: |
| 22:41.33 | RiverRat | You could call it Buzz. :P |
| 22:41.37 | itchi | RiverRat: It's for experts(programmers and so), and normally not supported here |
| 22:41.54 | pollywog | Package kernel-tree-2.6.8-16sarge1 is a virtual package provided by: |
| 22:41.54 | pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:41.54 | mage__ | pollywog: the kernel has deps? heh maybe just install newer modutils |
| 22:41.55 | wireddd | anyone know what the next testing will be called? ie after etch? |
| 22:42.18 | itchi | wireddd: I go for itchi :-) |
| 22:42.20 | pollywog | funny thing is it compiled once but gives errors now |
| 22:42.29 | pollywog | I forgot the initrd thing |
| 22:42.33 | pollywog | had to do over |
| 22:42.50 | mage__ | oh you're using the package manager to manage kernels |
| 22:42.51 | itchi | wireddd: But interesting question, like i not know |
| 22:42.59 | jelly-home | norbert_: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ might help you in looking for the correct driver, if that's the problem. |
| 22:43.00 | RiverRat | pollywog: I know you can install 2 copies of the same kernel (named differently) in grub. I don't know if debian has tools to handle that though. Gentoo doesn't either, it has to be done by hand. |
| 22:43.05 | mage__ | I'm too much of a slack to do that :) |
| 22:43.20 | jelly-home | norbert_: (got it from /msg dpkg hcl) |
| 22:43.31 | pollywog | RiverRat: I don't think I have done that I usually change the EXTRAVERSION in the Makefile |
| 22:43.42 | pollywog | so the version number is different |
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| 22:43.49 | norbert_ | jelly-home, hum... well "/sbin/sh: lspci: not found" |
| 22:43.58 | ktwilight | wireddd, sid |
| 22:43.58 | ktwilight | :) |
| 22:44.11 | RiverRat | pollywog: That would probably work as long as that EXTRAVERSION gets into the filename that's used in /boot. (Or whatever debian calls it) |
| 22:44.20 | jelly-home | norbert_: aaeuh. cat /proc/pci? |
| 22:44.24 | norbert_ | jelly-home, still have to install the base system, so this is just a bash in memory from the Debian install |
| 22:44.26 | pollywog | RiverRat: it usually works |
| 22:44.31 | pollywog | done it many times |
| 22:45.01 | itchi | Some troubles witch nickserv it's looks |
| 22:45.09 | Daedalus_ | Is it just me, or did someone move ivtv from unstable to testing accidentally? |
| 22:45.11 | pollywog | I have been using Debian for years and I am still such a noob |
| 22:45.44 | wireddd | ktwilight, nope it won't be called that ;) |
| 22:45.50 | itchi | brb |
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| 22:46.01 | RiverRat | I like debian but I'm not that good with it. I do developing in Gentoo probably because I understand it a bit better. |
| 22:46.22 | pollywog | I won't try Gentoo it would take me a week of compiling |
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| 22:46.53 | dondelelcaro | Daedalus_: what about it? -1 is in testing, -2 is in unstable... |
| 22:47.23 | pollywog | wasn't there a compromise of nickserv? |
| 22:47.35 | RiverRat | pollywog: Well it has advantages and disadvantages but I didn't come to debate or troll so we'll leave it there. |
| 22:47.50 | norbert_ | jelly-home, is it the "IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 2). ? |
| 22:47.50 | pollywog | RiverRat: k and thanks for trying to help :) |
| 22:48.03 | dondelelcaro | Daedalus_: and -1 migrated to testing on 5/22/2006; so it's been there for a while. See http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ivtv.html FE. |
| 22:48.04 | jelly-home | norbert_: does it have ATA disks? |
| 22:48.10 | norbert_ | no, SCSI |
| 22:48.19 | RiverRat | pollywog: A staffer password was stolen and nickserv was impersonated. If you haven't changed your password since last weekend I suggest that you do. |
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| 22:48.26 | itchi | No i mean he get my pass and then ... wait wait. An normally we get an message that the username are registred. I not get it now :-/ |
| 22:48.28 | norbert_ | but that's the only disk-thing that's listed |
| 22:48.31 | pollywog | RiverRat: done |
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| 22:48.40 | itchi | no matters |
| 22:48.49 | jelly-home | norbert_: look for something like "SCSI storage controller" or "RAID bus controller" |
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| 22:49.13 | norbert_ | jelly-home, yeah, there's RAID-stuff, I'll try to paste it in the page you mentioned |
| 22:49.17 | dondelelcaro | itchi: try asking an IRCOP then... |
| 22:49.31 | dondelelcaro | itchi: or /join #freenode |
| 22:49.36 | itchi | dondelelcaro: ;-) |
| 22:49.38 | RiverRat | itchi: Not getting a message that you are identified to services after identifying was a symptom that you were not talking to the real nickserv. |
| 22:50.02 | jelly-home | norbert_: I'm not sure that form accept /proc/pci output, though. |
| 22:50.03 | norbert_ | jelly-home: "RAID bus controller: Adaptec ASC-39320(B) U320 w/HostRAID" |
| 22:50.08 | stew | itchi: "/stats p" will list an on-duty staffer that can help you |
| 22:50.11 | RiverRat | dondelelcaro: I think the channel is #freenode-social now. |
| 22:50.20 | norbert_ | jelly-home: don't think so, because it has no information on return |
| 22:50.22 | dondelelcaro | RiverRat: yes, it redirects you appropriately. |
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| 22:50.46 | pollywog | this is what I get when I start the kernel compile: |
| 22:50.49 | pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.50 | pollywog | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'. |
| 22:50.55 | itchi | dondelelcaro: stew, I not know how i need to proceed for that ^^ hehe |
| 22:51.15 | itchi | dondelelcaro: stew, Like i have never got that trouble ... |
| 22:51.15 | norbert_ | jelly-home: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/05/msg00514.html |
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| 22:51.30 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: what are you trying to do? what kernel are you trying to build? |
| 22:51.37 | alindeman | itchi: Your nick is still registered, you just aren't identified right now |
| 22:51.42 | RiverRat | itchi: Look for someone with a @freenode/staffer cloak in #freenode-social and ask them. |
| 22:51.45 | pollywog | 2.6.8 from sources released today |
| 22:51.49 | itchi | alindeman: Yep, it's my |
| 22:52.03 | itchi | alindeman: He will not identify me :-/ |
| 22:52.08 | alindeman | OK, /msg me real quick |
| 22:52.10 | pollywog | I am afraid if I install the stock deb I might not be able to reboot the machine |
| 22:52.14 | jelly-home | norbert_: that's 9005:8095, so aic79xx alright. :-| |
| 22:52.24 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: uh... 2.6.8 wasn't released today |
| 22:52.27 | RiverRat | itchi: lilo is in #freenode-social and he cn confirm that you are (not) compromised for you. |
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| 22:52.43 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: security fis |
| 22:52.46 | pollywog | fix |
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| 22:53.12 | itchi | RiverRat: I have recently change it, duo that crap of thing 2 or 3 days ago there... |
| 22:53.17 | alindeman | itchi: I should be able to reset the password for you if necessary--the last seen address is the same--but that's strange for it to just up and change |
| 22:53.22 | pollywog | Subject: [SECURITY] [DSA 1103-1] New Linux kernel 2.6.8 packages fix several vulnerabilities |
| 22:53.31 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: oh, you mean the DSA; what kernel are you running now? |
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| 22:53.34 | alindeman | itchi: Were you able to identify 3 hours ago? |
| 22:53.35 | norbert_ | jelly-home: only difference is that it says "rev 16" on my machine |
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| 22:53.37 | pollywog | 2.6.8 |
| 22:53.58 | RiverRat | itchi: You are NOT identified to services. |
| 22:54.05 | pollywog | but since it is the only kernel installed on the machine I have no backup in case something goes wrong |
| 22:54.07 | itchi | alindeman: I got the same trouble some hours ago, and have simply close that irc client (xchat) and restart and it was done |
| 22:54.16 | alindeman | Hm, OK |
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| 22:54.19 | jelly-home | norbert_: you have tried both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, right? |
| 22:54.21 | itchi | RiverRat: Yes i know that's the trouble :-/ |
| 22:54.24 | pollywog | hence I cannot upgrade |
| 22:54.39 | RiverRat | /msg nickserv identify your-passwd |
| 22:54.49 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: that's just a revision; I want to know the output of uname -r; and dpkg -l kernel-image-2.6.8-*|grep -v '^un' |
| 22:54.59 | norbert_ | jelly-home: ehm, just 2.4.27 (that came with the cdrom) |
| 22:55.12 | pollywog | lilypad:/usr/src/linux# uname -r |
| 22:55.12 | pollywog | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 22:55.20 | jelly-home | norbert_: try booting with linux26, I think. |
| 22:55.33 | pollywog | ii kernel-image-2 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386. |
| 22:55.36 | norbert_ | jelly-home: hum... maybe, yeah |
| 22:55.58 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: right, so you're running the official Debian kernel. Why are you trying to build one? |
| 22:56.17 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: I want to install the fixed one |
| 22:56.38 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: so install the security update one and reboot |
| 22:56.42 | pollywog | but because it is the same version I wanted to build one with a different extraversion |
| 22:57.05 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: what if the machine does not boot it? |
| 22:57.10 | pollywog | I am screwed |
| 22:57.14 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: uh... they have different package names |
| 22:57.18 | pollywog | oh? |
| 22:57.19 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: the fixed ones are 2.6.8-3 |
| 22:57.26 | pollywog | hmm |
| 22:57.27 | pollywog | k |
| 22:57.32 | pollywog | thanks |
| 22:57.47 | aidan | I'm getting Failed to load org.apache.xml.resolver.tools.CatalogResolver, I have libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java installed, is that not the right package? |
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| 23:02.16 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: no they are the same version |
| 23:02.21 | itchi | brb |
| 23:02.21 | pollywog | I might be screwed |
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| 23:03.40 | Kilopopo | hi |
| 23:03.49 | Kilopopo | can you mount partition in a network |
| 23:03.49 | itchi | It's been /msg nickserv help ? |
| 23:04.08 | pollywog | okay now to see if this thing reboots |
| 23:04.15 | itchi | Looks the same case, password reseted and so |
| 23:04.59 | peterS | Kilopopo: there are various network filesystem protocols available - most popular are nfs and cifs. nfs is better for general-purpose use between unix machines, cifs has the advantage of native MS Windows clients and servers |
| 23:04.59 | norbert_ | jelly-home: do you know whether this iso is 2.6 ? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r2-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 23:05.15 | itchi | It's looks that my client can no more communicate wiht nickserv :-/ |
| 23:05.21 | peterS | norbert_: should have both 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 on it. hit F3 at the 'Boot:' prompt to learn more |
| 23:05.39 | norbert_ | peterS: ah... okay, thanks |
| 23:05.59 | peterS | norbert_: default is 2.4.27, so you have to type something special at Boot: to get 2.6, I think 'linux26' but I'm not sure |
| 23:06.07 | Kilopopo | peterS, thanks so those can recognize partition on a network right? |
| 23:06.36 | peterS | Kilopopo: you have to run server software on one machine and client software on the other. to run an nfs server you install 'nfs-kernel-server' and set up the /etc/exports file |
| 23:06.37 | norbert_ | peterS: great, thanks |
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| 23:07.03 | peterS | Kilopopo: the client software is already installed on your system, so you just 'mount servername:/server/path /client/path' on the client |
| 23:07.21 | peterS | Kilopopo: well, the client software is the 'nfs-common' package, but I think that's always installed |
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| 23:07.45 | Kilopopo | tanks peterS |
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| 23:09.20 | Kilopopo | peterS can you name a good BS distro? |
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| 23:09.44 | peterS | BS distro? |
| 23:09.44 | pollywog | BS bistro? |
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| 23:09.51 | pollywog | oh distro |
| 23:09.53 | itchi | Right, with irssi it's works. It's looks like it's with xchat the troubles |
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| 23:10.10 | Kilopopo | ? |
| 23:10.14 | Kilopopo | anyone |
| 23:10.21 | peterS | itchi: the service bots communicate using NOTICE messages rather than MSG messages, note |
| 23:10.24 | itchi | But i like irssi to, so let's playing with it :-) |
| 23:10.31 | peterS | itchi: it may be that xchat puts such traffic somewhere else, or hides it entirely |
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| 23:11.09 | itchi | peterS: But the whole day .. it have been work. Or i irc to many or so :-) |
| 23:11.25 | peterS | itchi: oh, don't know then. but I like irssi too. |
| 23:11.27 | loiic | Hello, I did a very stupid thing deleting /usr/lib/sftp-server by misstake, what are my options to get it back? i guess its bundled with the ssh package, unfortunatelly i am working on a remote server, uninstalling ssh and installing it again is not an option |
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| 23:11.49 | itchi | peterS: :-) it's nice. I have an fancy theme to :-) |
| 23:11.56 | pollywog | loiic: it is if you run another copy on a second port |
| 23:12.03 | peterS | loiic: apt-get install --reinstall ssh |
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| 23:12.17 | peterS | loiic: or, depending on your debian release, apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server |
| 23:12.22 | itchi | peterS: One of the website there that i have an little bit modified. But you know ;-) |
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| 23:12.38 | loiic | the thing is i ll be running that as ssh |
| 23:12.49 | peterS | loiic: yes, it'll still work |
| 23:12.54 | jelly-home | loiic: reinstalling will not kill your existing connections. |
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| 23:13.00 | p40l0 | hello friends |
| 23:13.02 | peterS | loiic: unless it fails, then you want to make sure not to log out of your current connection (: |
| 23:13.03 | pollywog | that is why you run a second instance on another port |
| 23:13.25 | p40l0 | i got 2 pc |
| 23:13.27 | jelly-home | that is why I love serial consoles. |
| 23:13.37 | peterS | loiic: basically, verify that the reinstall worked (you can still ssh in) before killing your existing ssh connection. the existing connection won't die regardless, until you kill it |
| 23:13.44 | loiic | awesome it did work :) |
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| 23:14.06 | p40l0 | the first is a sun ultra sparc 5 |
| 23:14.11 | norbert_ | how can I found out what exect kernel versions are included with the stable netinst image debian-31r2-i386 ? |
| 23:14.11 | loiic | works all fine, thanks a lot |
| 23:14.33 | norbert_ | found -> find; exect -> exact |
| 23:14.35 | norbert_ | (pfff) |
| 23:14.42 | p40l0 | i try to install debian but nothing happen |
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| 23:15.26 | itchi | p40l0: Tell what's going |
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| 23:16.08 | norbert_ | ehm, question, why is this directory empty: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/ |
| 23:16.24 | pollywog | what is this kernel-kbuild package? |
| 23:16.31 | Barkley | so is there a way to keep hidden files from showing up across nfs mounts? all the users are seeing . files in their home dir and it's distracting |
| 23:16.35 | p40l0 | the second is the nokia tatblet 770 on which nokia has installed a debian distro |
| 23:16.37 | pollywog | Linux kernel 2.6 kbuild tools |
| 23:16.43 | pollywog | never seen that before |
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| 23:17.55 | norbert_ | never mind, found it |
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| 23:18.21 | p40l0 | on this last one i try to flash the hardware as maemo.org say,but nothing to do i do not became su ? can any of you help me ? paolo id3rfix@gmail.com |
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| 23:18.46 | abrotman | p40l0: try #maemo |
| 23:19.08 | p40l0 | thank a lot |
| 23:19.08 | pollywog | is maemo another distro? |
| 23:19.09 | itchi | again brb, i take xterm |
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| 23:20.06 | abrotman | pollywog: maemo.org |
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| 23:20.50 | aidan | I'm getting Failed to load org.apache.xml.resolver.tools.CatalogResolver, I have libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java installed, is that not the right package? |
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| 23:21.40 | pollywog | do the kernel-headers packages replace kernel-source packages? |
| 23:21.51 | pollywog | something is different |
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| 23:23.14 | abrotman | no |
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| 23:23.35 | threw | hi all ! |
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| 23:24.35 | itchi | Barkley: gnarls ?? |
| 23:24.47 | itchi | We never know :-) |
| 23:25.23 | threw | i have a little problem: im trying to change some line in kernel in order to understand it, but does it exist another way in order to test my change than recompiling the kernel please ? |
| 23:25.34 | Barkley | No barkley as in "how the hell do i hide . files across NFS mounts?" |
| 23:25.58 | abrotman | what client? |
| 23:25.59 | itchi | threw: Look to '/msg dpkg kp' ? |
| 23:26.14 | abrotman | threw: ask #kernel |
| 23:26.18 | abrotman | itchi: that won't help him |
| 23:26.31 | itchi | abrotman: I try to suggest :-/ |
| 23:26.41 | threw | itchi: yeah but recompiling kernel at each time is looooooong |
| 23:26.54 | abrotman | threw: ask #kernel |
| 23:26.54 | threw | abrotman: ok, thx for the channel i didnt know |
| 23:26.59 | threw | :) |
| 23:27.21 | Barkley | abrotman, i'm accessing linux shares from windows using SFU (services for unix) works a treat, but want to ditch all the .files from view. is there a config in fstab or something to config server side to do this? |
| 23:27.34 | pollywog | Interesting, when I install a kernel, I also install a kernel-headers package... I used to use a kernel-source package so I am slightly confused. Can the bot help? |
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| 23:27.52 | abrotman | Barkley: does it happen from a linux client? |
| 23:28.08 | Barkley | fair question....no idea |
| 23:28.24 | abrotman | might be something to check |
| 23:28.26 | Barkley | is this a pretty standard nfs server config? |
| 23:28.31 | abrotman | i would imagine so |
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| 23:32.35 | jelly-home | Barkley: dot files are have no special property, it's just a convention they're regarded as hidden in unix and not displayed by default. |
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| 23:32.39 | aidan | oh, awesome, xsltproc segfaults |
| 23:32.54 | abrotman | jelly-home: but shouldn't the SFU client respect that? |
| 23:33.01 | pollywog | I would like to be able to compile a kernel if needed but I am still getting the same error |
| 23:33.12 | jelly-home | abrotman: what should it respect, exactly? |
| 23:33.23 | abrotman | jelly-home: emulate the default behaviour of not showing . files |
| 23:33.38 | pollywog | nm I will google it |
| 23:33.46 | jelly-home | abrotman: I suppose if you run SFU's ls -l, it wouldn't show the files. |
| 23:34.05 | abrotman | i've never used SFU .. i can't comment on how it fails to work correctly :) |
| 23:34.46 | Barkley | jelley-home ok i get it...so is there a way to keep nfs from showing files of a certain pattern? like starting with . ? the other options seem to be mounting a folder in each home rather than $HOME or turning on and screwing with ACLS until xmas....thoughts? |
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| 23:35.37 | Eulex | umh, if the current directory that is set for a terminal when it is started is not set to ~ anymore, what has happened? and no, I haven't touched ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc in any way |
| 23:36.12 | jelly-home | Barkley: not that I know of. OTOH, samba has a "hide dot files" option. ;-) |
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| 23:36.50 | Barkley | samba also stalls 40 times a day :( |
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| 23:36.57 | Eulex | This has happened before, and the only solution I've found is to restart X |
| 23:36.59 | meriad | the last 24 minutes of werk are often the swloest :P |
| 23:37.10 | abrotman | so you came here ? |
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| 23:37.19 | meriad | abrotman- precisely. |
| 23:37.47 | meriad | abrotman- so how about a nice dance? :P |
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| 23:38.02 | abrotman | Eulex: this is like xterm ? |
| 23:38.13 | pollywog | the problem I am having with compiling a Debian kernel appears in an ubuntu forum but apparently no solutions |
| 23:38.27 | pollywog | * No rule to make target `init/main.o' |
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| 23:39.28 | Eulex | abrotman, xterm and xfce4-terminal, but surprisingly not rxvt-unicode or gnome-terminal |
| 23:39.33 | datrus | anyone using lvm? pvdisplay doesn't seem to find the physical volumes i created earlier. anyone knows how pvdisplay searches for PVs? |
| 23:39.57 | abrotman | Eulex: how does xterm set its border title ? |
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| 23:40.28 | Eulex | abrotman, border title? |
| 23:40.38 | abrotman | isn't that what you were asking about? |
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| 23:41.06 | Eulex | no, the current directory that is set when a terminal is started |
| 23:41.38 | abrotman | OH |
| 23:42.17 | nvz | ohio |
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| 23:42.34 | Eulex | right now, the current directory in both xterm and xfce4-terminal is set to ~/.themes when they're started, from being ~ just a few minutes ago. I just extracted a few files in ~/.themes. |
| 23:43.08 | abrotman | nothing in set or env ? |
| 23:43.31 | abrotman | put some clothes on! |
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| 23:43.55 | abrotman | Eulex: like .. in that terminal .. has $HOME changed ? |
| 23:44.19 | Eulex | abrotman, nothing except for $PWD. which contains the current directory. no, $HOME is still set correctly. |
| 23:44.22 | pollywog | do kernel.org kernels compile in Debian even the ones that use initrd? |
| 23:44.26 | jelly-home | Eulex: hmm, the terminal (or any other child process) inherits cwd from its parent, so you have to find out what exactly invokes the terminal and make it change its cwd back to $HOME |
| 23:44.28 | abrotman | Eulex: eh .. weird |
| 23:44.36 | abrotman | Eulex: i've never seen that before |
| 23:44.58 | Eulex | jelly-home, my *panel*... |
| 23:45.32 | jelly-home | Eulex: eh, can you restart just the panel or something? |
| 23:45.33 | farrioth | Where can one download old 2.x releases of debian? |
| 23:45.44 | Eulex | jelly-home, thats what I'm doing :) |
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| 23:46.14 | abrotman | kill -1 panel ? |
| 23:46.16 | meriad | 14 minutes left and I can finally go and rest |
| 23:46.21 | meriad | kill -31137 panel |
| 23:46.30 | Eulex | abrotman, I know how to do it :) |
| 23:46.33 | abrotman | you could just leave early |
| 23:46.36 | abrotman | Eulex: i'm skeptical ! |
| 23:46.46 | meriad | abrotman- i COULD!, but i'd rather complete my shift :P |
| 23:46.47 | jelly-home | Eulex: it this gnome, kde or something else? |
| 23:46.53 | meriad | abrotman- SLACKER! |
| 23:47.12 | Eulex | jelly-home, xfce. the panel is restarted and everything works as it should now. |
| 23:47.22 | pollywog | meriad: do you work in a hospital? |
| 23:47.25 | abrotman | Eulex: can you make it happen again? |
| 23:47.33 | pollywog | no not a mental one |
| 23:47.43 | meriad | pollywog- :P no |
| 23:47.46 | meriad | pollywog- why do you ask? |
| 23:47.46 | jelly-home | Eulex: well, sure sounds like a bug to me... or maybe a feature if it's documented. ;-> |
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| 23:47.57 | Eulex | abrotman, I guess so, I'd just need to kill the panel, cd to some directory other than $HOME, then start the panel |
| 23:47.58 | pollywog | because maybe nobody will miss you ;) |
| 23:48.02 | meriad | :| |
| 23:48.05 | meriad | thats not funny |
| 23:48.08 | meriad | of course people will miss me |
| 23:48.09 | meriad | IM LOVED |
| 23:48.10 | meriad | globally. |
| 23:48.14 | meriad | but all whom I touch |
| 23:48.16 | abrotman | Eulex: i mean .. can you make it happen again .. anytime you want |
| 23:48.18 | abrotman | !tell meriad about enter |
| 23:48.22 | jelly-home | Eulex: cd to some directory in what? |
| 23:48.25 | pollywog | then don't go home yet |
| 23:48.39 | meriad | abrotman- my enter key needs to be hit on a regular basis to prevent the coke i split on it earlier for making the key stuck. |
| 23:48.41 | Eulex | jelly-home, terminal |
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| 23:48.45 | Eulex | abrotman, yeah |
| 23:48.52 | abrotman | Eulex: is it bug worthy? |
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| 23:49.12 | Eulex | I don't know. |
| 23:49.17 | jelly-home | Eulex: that's funny. and cd-ing back to ~ doesn't make it right? |
| 23:49.52 | jelly-home | Eulex: mhm, is it some sort of special xfce terminal thingy? Maybe it's a feature... |
| 23:49.54 | abrotman | funny how? |
| 23:49.55 | Eulex | jelly-home, well, it all depends on the current directory I had in the terminal when I started the panel from there |
| 23:49.56 | Halleck | I just installed x-window-system via aptitude, and went through the graphical setup, but it's not configured properly and both startx and xinit fail- is there a way to invoke the graphical setup again? |
| 23:50.16 | jelly-home | Eulex: oh! It's normal then. |
| 23:50.20 | abrotman | did you install a window manager? |
| 23:50.22 | Halleck | no |
| 23:50.31 | jelly-home | Eulex: panel just inherited cwd from the shell. |
| 23:50.33 | abrotman | ok .. look in your logs why it's failing |
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| 23:50.48 | Eulex | jelly-home, no, hasn't got much to do with the terminal. some ignore the current directory they inherited. |
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| 23:51.06 | Eulex | jelly-home, yeah, that's what I realized when I smacked my head against the wall :) |
| 23:51.07 | pollywog | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or similar? |
| 23:51.31 | pollywog | that usually does it for me |
| 23:51.34 | jelly-home | Eulex: no, nothing "ignores" it. Some programs explicitely change to $HOME or / on start (most daemons do, for example). |
| 23:51.36 | abrotman | maybe find the error first? |
| 23:52.04 | beardy | Eulex: Has your ~/.bashrc been modified? |
| 23:52.08 | Eulex | jelly-home, well, yeah, that's what I meant |
| 23:52.16 | Halleck | "Fatal server error, failed to initialize core devices" |
| 23:52.17 | Eulex | beardy, no. the problem is already fixed :) |
| 23:52.23 | beardy | Eulex: Have you checked exactly what was in the archive, if it were some ugliness? |
| 23:52.27 | beardy | Eulex: And it was? |
| 23:52.28 | pollywog | Halleck: are you using nvidia? |
| 23:52.48 | Eulex | beardy, that I had started my panel from a terminal whose current working directory wasn't ~ |
| 23:53.19 | beardy | Eulex: Ok. (panel?) |
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| 23:54.15 | xomhauvtt | hi all |
| 23:54.54 | Halleck | pollywog: Possibly. I have "diamond viper 4m/ pci v30 VGA" written down here |
| 23:54.59 | xomhauvtt | i want install j2re,jdk, but i don't know what mirror.any tell me pls |
| 23:55.24 | Eulex | beardy, yeah, restarted it with LC_ALL=C to see the english 'translations', then restarted it again to get my usual translation. I happened to do this in a terminal whose working directory wasn't ~ |
| 23:55.37 | pollywog | Halleck: I don't think that is an nvidia card |
| 23:55.40 | abrotman | Halleck: look a few lines up .. possibly something about /dev/input/mice ? |
| 23:55.56 | pollywog | I thought perheps you had forgotten to install the -glx package |
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| 23:56.34 | pollywog | I use an nvidia type card and I get similar errors if I forget nvidia-glx |
| 23:57.00 | abrotman | Halleck: are you IRCing from the machine ? |
| 23:57.07 | Halleck | yes there's that.. "Cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device" |
| 23:57.11 | Halleck | no, i'm using a PC |
| 23:57.28 | abrotman | Halleck: modprobe mousedev && echo "mousedev" >> /etc/modules (and yes .. the >> is VERY important) |
| 23:57.37 | abrotman | Halleck: then try startx again |
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| 23:59.23 | Halleck | abrotman: hey, it works! thanks. am I gonna have to do that every time I want to run x or just this once? |
| 23:59.41 | abrotman | Halleck: did you do the second part of the command i gave you? |
| 23:59.48 | Halleck | yes |
| 23:59.49 | abrotman | Halleck: cat /etc/modules ..d o you see mousedev ? |
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