| 00:00.20 | Halleck | uh... X is hanging and I can't switch to another tty |
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| 00:00.26 | Chico1980 | Alguem sabe me dizer se muitas verificacoes nmap podem bloquear o host que acessa o mysql? |
| 00:00.58 | abrotman | Halleck: ctrl-alt-f1 ? |
| 00:01.03 | abrotman | !br |
| 00:01.03 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:01.50 | Halleck | ok, mousedev is there |
| 00:01.56 | abrotman | ok .. |
| 00:01.59 | abrotman | so everything is ok? |
| 00:02.11 | Halleck | except for the hanging and not being able to move the mouse |
| 00:02.52 | abrotman | eh .. is it a PS2 mouse? usb? |
| 00:02.59 | abrotman | is it really hung? |
| 00:03.04 | Halleck | ps/2 running through a kvm switch |
| 00:03.08 | abrotman | i mean .. X with no window manager doesn't do much :) |
| 00:03.22 | Halleck | right but shouldn't I be able to move the mouse? |
| 00:03.33 | abrotman | probably ... |
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| 00:03.52 | abrotman | dmesg | grep mouse |
| 00:04.22 | Halleck | "mouse: ps/2 device common for all mice" |
| 00:04.27 | beardy | Halleck: Configured X properly? |
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| 00:04.38 | beardy | !tell AndyMcGee about root |
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| 00:04.46 | beardy | oh, haha |
| 00:04.49 | abrotman | if only it were root :) |
| 00:05.00 | beardy | AndyMcGee: Sorry. |
| 00:05.00 | Halleck | no idea.. that's why I was looking for a way to run the graphical setup again |
| 00:05.11 | abrotman | !drxx Halleck |
| 00:05.11 | dpkg | Halleck: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:06.17 | Halleck | awesome, thanks. |
| 00:06.34 | AndyMcGee | Hi Guys ;) |
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| 00:07.19 | abrotman | beardy: don't apologize .. your productivity will go down! |
| 00:07.34 | beardy | abrotman: Oh no!! |
| 00:07.38 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:07.56 | beardy | abrotman: thank me a few times, and it will be fine |
| 00:08.12 | abrotman | beardy: thanks .. but i should be eating |
| 00:08.39 | beardy | abrotman: thanks that sounds nice |
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| 00:09.17 | giorgian | hi; i'm having some problems with modems: i can use a usb 56k modem under kernel 2.6.8 (with sl-modem-daemon), but not under 2.6.15, and i suspect that it's udev's guilt. how do i tell udev to ignore a certain peripheral? |
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| 00:09.32 | beardy | !blacklist |
| 00:09.32 | dpkg | it has been said that blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 00:11.05 | giorgian | beardy: thanks. ehm... how do i know wether i'm using etch or not? |
| 00:11.14 | jelly-home | abrotman: by productivity you mean those crazy generated numbers? |
| 00:11.17 | bztunk | giorgian: you have to see it for yourself |
| 00:11.22 | abrotman | jelly-home: yeah |
| 00:11.24 | magyar | beardy: what about initram? i always have a problem with usb loading first |
| 00:11.31 | jelly-home | abrotman: thanks. ;-) |
| 00:11.38 | abrotman | jelly-home: http://nas.com/~change/private/irc/ |
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| 00:11.55 | giorgian | ok, thanks |
| 00:12.05 | abrotman | stew: you're entirely too productive |
| 00:12.11 | beardy | giorgian: Not sure that's what you want though, since udev creates devices, and is not loading modules, or is it doing that too? |
| 00:12.43 | abrotman | worst formula .. ever |
| 00:13.17 | jelly-home | abrotman: yeah, fuck that, oops, sorry |
| 00:13.23 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:13.25 | jelly-home | I'm rigging it. |
| 00:13.36 | beardy | magyar: Fiddle around with your initrd. Or don't use an initrd. |
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| 00:14.07 | magyar | i use etch and i have four usb card readers /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, /dev/sde and /dev/sdf. I also have two AHCI SATA drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. The kernel seems to flip a coin. It keeps switching the SATA drives and the USB drives. How can i fix this anoying thing? |
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| 00:14.13 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:14.30 | abrotman | load the modules in order |
| 00:14.32 | beardy | magyar: IIRC there are a list of which things to load.. mount a copy of your initrd and have a look. |
| 00:15.00 | beardy | magyar: ^^^ reply to your previous question. |
| 00:15.05 | abrotman | you can use the actions file .. |
| 00:15.07 | magyar | beardy: but why is it keeps on switching usb drives and sata drives? |
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| 00:15.25 | mtgh | Hi everyone, does anyone know why I can't install mysql on debain 3.1 http://pastebin.ca/73563 -- the output of apt-get |
| 00:15.42 | beardy | magyar: To annoy you? I don't know :) |
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| 00:15.56 | magyar | beardy: :) |
| 00:16.03 | abrotman | mtgh: apt-get install mysql-server |
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| 00:16.26 | jelly-home | magyar: one workaround, when you don't know which sd? a device is going to appear as, is to use mount with labels. |
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| 00:16.36 | magyar | abrotman: where do i tell the kernel that? I think the switch occures in initrram |
| 00:16.39 | beardy | magyar: Perhaps it's the one responding first, gets served first. But after a while one of them should be quicker, over time, and should get the first one most often.. |
| 00:16.48 | abrotman | magyar: man modprobe |
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| 00:17.15 | Halleck | anyone care to reccomend a lightweight window manager? I was thinking IceWM or xcfe, although I'm most familiar with kde |
| 00:17.23 | abrotman | blackbox! |
| 00:17.28 | beardy | wmaker! |
| 00:17.33 | abrotman | blackbox! |
| 00:17.37 | rhys | fluxbox |
| 00:17.37 | rhys | :d |
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| 00:17.43 | abrotman | why? |
| 00:17.44 | jelly-home | !start a wm war |
| 00:17.44 | dpkg | blackbox makes me vomit! |
| 00:17.48 | abrotman | dpkg: you suck |
| 00:17.48 | Aim_Here | I second wmaker |
| 00:17.48 | dpkg | Dream on, abrotman. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 00:17.53 | mtgh | abrotman: I need mysql 5 |
| 00:17.55 | rhys | roffle |
| 00:18.01 | abrotman | mtgh: /msg dpkg backports |
| 00:18.05 | rhys | wow |
| 00:18.08 | rhys | how smart is dpkg |
| 00:18.17 | AndyMcGee | Did anyone exept me notice that gnome 2.8.3 maximizes windows 4 px to much under some conditions? |
| 00:18.19 | rhys | dpkg: are you smart? |
| 00:18.20 | magyar | beardy: well it's been like this for the past 1/2 year, i just keep rebooting and usualy the 20-th time it will pick the SATA as /dev/sda |
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| 00:18.29 | mtgh | abrotman: I know about backports, but why is it listed if it can't install? |
| 00:18.43 | abrotman | mtgh: eh .. any errors? |
| 00:18.48 | mtgh | http://pastebin.ca/73563 |
| 00:18.53 | jelly-home | dpkg: How much wood would the woodchuck chuck if the woodchuck could chuck wood? |
| 00:19.10 | abrotman | 42 |
| 00:19.15 | beardy | magyar: That one is slower then, it sounds like. BUt wouldn't it take less time to plug in the usb things after you have booted, once, instead of rebooting and depend on luck for 20 times? |
| 00:19.54 | beardy | dpkg: 42 |
| 00:19.55 | dpkg | [42] the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. or 6 * 8 or hexadecimal for ascii 'B' or 10!/86400, or what you get when you multiply 6 by 9. (base 13), or a number that silly people use, or the number of roads a man walks down. in Douglas Adams' book, or *not* the meaning of life |
| 00:20.08 | magyar | beardy: the usb staff is just SD card readers on the monitor, but the kernel gives them scsi devices |
| 00:20.20 | jelly-home | I see dpkg is missing a crucial monkey island reference. |
| 00:20.22 | magyar | stuff |
| 00:21.05 | abrotman | magyar: man modprobe |
| 00:21.07 | beardy | magyar: Yes, that's the way it works. But why can't you let it be and learn the new order of them, if they are always the same, not just hoe you want them? |
| 00:21.30 | beardy | s/hoe/how/ .. |
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| 00:21.49 | beardy | !mismite jelly-home |
| 00:21.49 | dpkg | jelly-home: You are a pain in the backside, sir! |
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| 00:22.01 | Halleck | are there GUIs for apt/aptitude from within wmaker/blackbox/fluxbox? |
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| 00:22.14 | abrotman | synaptic |
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| 00:22.17 | magyar | beardy: i wish it would STAY in the same order. The kernel keeps on switching them |
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| 00:22.23 | beardy | Halleck: Yes, they are called *term |
| 00:22.26 | jelly-home | beardy: hey, you did that the last time I asked dpkg that too. |
| 00:22.26 | Gnurdux | apparently the latest curl in debian testing/unstable is causing segfaults |
| 00:22.34 | abrotman | magyar: FFS .. read some god damn man pages |
| 00:22.35 | Gnurdux | in bzflag |
| 00:22.41 | Halleck | heheh |
| 00:22.45 | beardy | jelly-home: Yes, and the randomness needs a kicking, you got the same last time too.. |
| 00:22.49 | beardy | !mismite jelly-home |
| 00:22.50 | dpkg | jelly-home: There are no clever moves that can help you now. |
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| 00:23.03 | magyar | abrotman: i tried modprobe and hotplug.d and discover, but IT IS THE initram |
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| 00:23.17 | abrotman | whatever .. *plonk* |
| 00:23.30 | AndyMcGee | How is that thing called that holds the panels in gnome? |
| 00:23.39 | abrotman | gnome-panel ? |
| 00:23.41 | AndyMcGee | Gnome Panel? |
| 00:24.00 | AndyMcGee | So its a Panal that holds Planes... hmm |
| 00:24.15 | beardy | jelly-home: (from the fencing scenes in Monkey Island) |
| 00:25.04 | AndyMcGee | Seems like the coverage Area of that Panel is reported or interpredet wrong by 4px. But only if its not in the upper position... |
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| 00:25.23 | heh_v_water | does anyone know if there is a way to tell Totem to play a DVD and skip the DVD menu, playing the movie automatically? |
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| 00:26.01 | beardy | heh_v_water: mplayer can. Read the manual? mplayer does it 'mplayer dvd://1' |
| 00:26.20 | Halleck | okay... wmaker starts up but the mouse will not move :( |
| 00:26.36 | heh_v_water | beardy: I don't like mplayer as well as totem for dvd's, it doesn't seem to run as clean |
| 00:26.43 | abrotman | Halleck: push it |
| 00:27.02 | Halleck | ? |
| 00:27.27 | abrotman | you're not a jedi .. push the mouse .. none of this mind over matter stuff |
| 00:27.34 | beardy | Halleck: You don't really need it though, wmaker has nice shortcuts. /but you have to figure out how to show them of course ;) ) |
| 00:27.36 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 00:28.32 | beardy | Halleck: reconfigure until it works |
| 00:28.38 | Halleck | k |
| 00:29.08 | abrotman | Halleck: reboot the machine .. but keep the kvm on it all the time |
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| 00:29.48 | Halleck | yay! it works :D |
| 00:29.54 | beardy | Oh, he has a kvm? |
| 00:30.06 | beardy | Should work nevertheless though. |
| 00:30.13 | heh_v_water | see the thing is.. I finally got lirc working and have programmed the buttons to open the dvd player, then I put disk in, I have a button that closes the dvd player and fired up totem playing the dvd, but then it gets stuck on the menu which requires a "click" which sucks cause it kinda ruins the entire "remote" idea |
| 00:30.44 | beardy | heh_v_water: Get a wireless mouse? ;) Yeah, I know.. |
| 00:31.18 | abrotman | Halleck: what did you do? |
| 00:31.22 | heh_v_water | beardy: yah I have a wireless mouse and that will work Iguess, just wanted to automate it as much as possible |
| 00:31.24 | beardy | heh_v_water: Are you sure it needs a click? A space or anykey doesn't work? If you can bind your remote to a key? |
| 00:31.47 | heh_v_water | beardy: I'm sure it could be done I just haven't figured it out yet |
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| 00:32.17 | beardy | heh_v_water: But why does it need a click anyway, sounds silly.. |
| 00:32.36 | heh_v_water | beardy: to click the play icon in the movie |
| 00:32.47 | abrotman | am i the only one that gets sad when you pull the last apple from the fridge? |
| 00:33.25 | beardy | heh_v_water: well, then it's probably Enter you should bind on your remote then |
| 00:33.42 | Halleck | abrotman: switched to an alternate ps/2 mouse configuration, I forget which one |
| 00:33.48 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:34.00 | abrotman | Halleck: now what? |
| 00:34.08 | heh_v_water | beardy: just tried it, space and enter do not work.. oh well I'm experience extreme joy just having full remote control of my mp3's anyhow and loading a movie is easier than ever ;) |
| 00:34.24 | Halleck | abrotman: now I have to get apache running :) |
| 00:34.45 | abrotman | with X? |
| 00:34.54 | abrotman | i mean .. we could have started with apache .. way easier |
| 00:35.31 | Halleck | oh no, I just wanted to get X on there, sorry :) |
| 00:35.46 | Halleck | it |
| 00:36.08 | Halleck | it's strange... I selected the "webserver" software configuration during install, but httpd doesn't seem to be on my system |
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| 00:36.32 | abrotman | Halleck: dpkg -l apache* |
| 00:36.57 | heh_v_water | BTW, in case it isn't in the BTS, totem in etch has an issue.. the volume control in totem is totally backwards.. moving towards the - side raises volume +side lowers it |
| 00:37.00 | Halleck | "no packages found matching apache" |
| 00:37.13 | abrotman | i guess it didn't listen to you ... |
| 00:37.21 | deadcat | Halleck: now you know. next time when you install. DONT select anything from that stupid menu (= |
| 00:37.47 | Halleck | really? what's the issue |
| 00:37.52 | abrotman | dpkg: kill tasksel |
| 00:37.56 | Daishi | so erm i did a dist-upgrade and went from xorg 6.8 to 7.0 and now i always get this: (EE) No devices detected. in the log file |
| 00:38.06 | Daishi | X like trys to start 3 times and dies |
| 00:38.11 | deadcat | Halleck: nothing. its just that you wont know what is being installed. "webserver" doesnt tell you much |
| 00:38.26 | Daishi | i did a dpkg-reconfigure and everything |
| 00:39.02 | abrotman | Daishi: paste your log somewhere |
| 00:39.03 | beardy | heh_v_water: check and add it yourself, if it's not |
| 00:39.09 | Daishi | k |
| 00:39.41 | beardy | where somewhere could be |
| 00:39.42 | beardy | !pastebin |
| 00:39.43 | dpkg | i guess pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:40.07 | abrotman | !pastebin =~ s/.ca,/.ca/ |
| 00:40.08 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 00:40.18 | Daishi | i kwas already going to it heh |
| 00:40.20 | Daishi | but thanks |
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| 00:40.34 | Daishi | oo i used pastebin.com ...well its taking forever |
| 00:40.39 | abrotman | don't do that! |
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| 00:40.43 | abrotman | use anything but pastebin.com! |
| 00:40.53 | dvs | What's wrong with pastebin.com? |
| 00:40.57 | jamescarr | can someone help a brother in need? my laptop overheated last night and now, today, when I started KDE i have no window decorations |
| 00:41.10 | jamescarr | and the de settings window opens up with apply cleverly off screen |
| 00:41.15 | jamescarr | and I cannot move the window |
| 00:41.16 | jamescarr | :( |
| 00:41.17 | abrotman | GAH .. MORE RAIN! |
| 00:41.17 | Daishi | http://pastebin.ca/73581 well that was easier |
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| 00:41.24 | abrotman | dvs: super slow lately |
| 00:41.26 | jamescarr | even with the ALT+mouse drag |
| 00:41.29 | dvs | ok |
| 00:41.46 | abrotman | dvs: we're talking like .. 2-3 minutes just to resolve |
| 00:42.04 | jamescarr | could someone go through the process of going to window decorations and tabbing to the appy from the theme drop down so that I now how many times to tab to hit apply with the space bar? |
| 00:42.05 | jamescarr | please |
| 00:42.07 | beardy | !hurry abrotman |
| 00:42.07 | Daishi | the dns resolved fine but when submitting it hung |
| 00:42.14 | beardy | bah.. |
| 00:42.15 | dvs | abrotman: and you're saying that .ca is so idle because canucks are not technically inclined?!? ;-) |
| 00:42.46 | abrotman | sure! |
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| 00:43.06 | beardy | jamescarr: You don't see it? Which button is selected? |
| 00:43.20 | jamescarr | I cant see it |
| 00:43.28 | jamescarr | it opens the window partially off screen |
| 00:43.28 | Daishi | i dont know whats wrong with this and i dont feel like having to put 6.8 back |
| 00:43.30 | jamescarr | and I cannot move it |
| 00:43.31 | Daishi | its a pain |
| 00:43.42 | beardy | jamescarr: Try without the mouse |
| 00:43.48 | jamescarr | I have |
| 00:43.54 | jamescarr | I eep tabbing and hitting space |
| 00:43.56 | abrotman | beardy: i can't remember what it was |
| 00:43.57 | jamescarr | I cant get to it |
| 00:44.02 | jamescarr | I think something is broken badly |
| 00:44.10 | beardy | abrotman: the !hurry? |
| 00:44.13 | jamescarr | it was screaming something about kernel panics when it booted up |
| 00:44.19 | jamescarr | but the messages where nonsensical |
| 00:44.47 | jamescarr | bready: no |
| 00:44.49 | jamescarr | not a troll :( |
| 00:44.52 | jamescarr | unfortunately |
| 00:45.11 | jamescarr | KDE is acting really weird on me... perhaps I should just do and apt-get update and upgrade or install over it |
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| 00:46.00 | beardy | jamescarr: You know, if it panics, it does not boot. |
| 00:46.12 | abrotman | beardy: yeah .. i thought it was still there |
| 00:46.14 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 00:46.14 | dpkg | <Michiel1983> dpkg: I have problems with boot for the 2.6.9 kernel, I got a kernel panic:Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3) On undernet they told me to: go to irc.freenode.net, join #debian and ask dpkg about bobbitt |
| 00:46.17 | beardy | jamescarr: Is it being started at the wrong resolution, or why can't you see it? |
| 00:46.20 | beardy | !hurry |
| 00:46.20 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 00:46.27 | beardy | abrotman: not a cmd: |
| 00:46.29 | abrotman | yay! |
| 00:46.48 | jamescarr | beardy, thewindow opens with half of it off screen, and I am unable to move the window :( |
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| 00:47.00 | jamescarr | because the handlebars and window decorations are gone |
| 00:47.14 | beardy | jamescarr: Are you sure you are running KDE? |
| 00:47.14 | Coweater | hold alt, click and hold, move it |
| 00:47.16 | jamescarr | and holding alt+mouse drag like I usually do doesnt work |
| 00:47.29 | jamescarr | beardy, even though I may sound like it, I'm not a moron |
| 00:47.37 | jamescarr | :) |
| 00:47.54 | beardy | jamescarr: How did you start the thing you are running? Does the mouse work for that? |
| 00:48.01 | jamescarr | yeah |
| 00:48.22 | beardy | jamescarr: and with only the shortcut keys, to move windows, whatever they are? |
| 00:48.31 | jamescarr | well, I started it back up after it overheated overnight and it complained about kernel panics and said I should reboot |
| 00:48.37 | jamescarr | so I rebooted |
| 00:48.43 | jamescarr | and now kde is actin up |
| 00:49.38 | beardy | jamescarr: Might be more things acting up if it was overheated, but I think it's strange that kde should start dropping graphical things because of it. |
| 00:49.50 | jamescarr | yeah |
| 00:50.02 | jamescarr | what's even more weird is it just doesn't act right |
| 00:50.20 | jamescarr | oh crud ... I remember ... I broke my X config and replaced it with one off of a boot disc |
| 00:50.22 | jamescarr | :/ |
| 00:50.33 | abrotman | a boot disc? |
| 00:50.36 | beardy | jamescarr: Have you rebooted again, after you were told to do it? |
| 00:50.40 | abrotman | jamescarr: which version of debian is this? |
| 00:50.44 | jamescarr | s/boot disc/live cd |
| 00:50.48 | beardy | jamescarr: Yeah, try a boot disc. |
| 00:50.51 | beardy | yes |
| 00:51.19 | jamescarr | I think it may be an issue, I think I'll just remove it and try a different window manager |
| 00:51.25 | jamescarr | I'm a fluxbox guy anyway |
| 00:51.35 | beardy | jamescarr: WHich version of Debian? |
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| 00:52.13 | beardy | Don't irc in X, or atleast not in a guiclient, everyone. |
| 00:52.25 | beardy | man screen |
| 00:52.47 | mfrisch | jamescarr recreate your home setup files first |
| 00:53.08 | beardy | He quit. |
| 00:53.13 | abrotman | oh wait .. who wanted me to look at thier X error log ? |
| 00:53.16 | mfrisch | beardy: sorry |
| 00:53.49 | abrotman | who said they had an S3 diamond card? |
| 00:54.00 | beardy | mfrisch: Heh, I don't mind. |
| 00:54.28 | abrotman | daishi thinks he has a neomagic card? |
| 00:54.30 | beardy | abrotman: someone beginning with D, wasn't it? |
| 00:54.45 | abrotman | does he have a 1997 gateway laptop? |
| 00:55.09 | beardy | How should I know? ;) |
| 00:55.18 | beardy | and what is a "gateway laptop" anyway? |
| 00:55.44 | abrotman | you know .. gateway computers |
| 00:55.48 | abrotman | they make laptops |
| 00:55.49 | dvs | beardy: Gateway is a company if that's what you're refering to |
| 00:56.13 | beardy | abrotman: Daishi |
| 00:56.22 | abrotman | it's a beginner laptop .. leads to nicer laptops |
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| 00:56.38 | beardy | dvs: I wasn't, abrotman was. |
| 00:56.41 | stew | abrotman: ? |
| 00:56.42 | Aim_Here | Its like a 'gateway drug' |
| 00:56.44 | stew | oh |
| 00:56.46 | stew | nm |
| 00:56.48 | abrotman | stew: hehe |
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| 00:57.09 | abrotman | his irc client knows when e17 crashes ? |
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| 01:03.11 | jelly-home | lastlog sez: <Halleck> pollywog: Possibly. I have "diamond viper 4m/ pci v30 VGA" written down here |
| 01:03.40 | Halleck | ? |
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| 01:04.12 | landan | does anyone know what package of ncurses i need to compile psybnc? |
| 01:04.32 | landan | i have libncurses5 but the install thinks i dont have ncurses installed :/ |
| 01:04.50 | dvs | landan: you need libncurses5-dev |
| 01:04.51 | Zerial | landan, see the README |
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| 01:05.14 | charzero | I'm trying to set up an encrypted partion. On losetu -F /dev/loop7, I get ioctl: LOOP_MULTI_KEY_SETUP: Invalid argument. Google isn't showing me anything. |
| 01:05.19 | landan | word thanks dvs :) |
| 01:05.27 | dvs | word? |
| 01:05.33 | dvs | I hate microsoft!!!!! |
| 01:05.41 | landan | nothing in readme about debian or ncurse Zerial |
| 01:05.56 | jelly-home | hmm, how come this psybnc isn't in debian? Lots of script kiddies use it. Oh, wait... |
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| 01:06.28 | Zerial | landan, ok.. how dvs says you need install development libraries of ncurses |
| 01:06.29 | Stevie-O | dvs: that was 3 words |
| 01:06.57 | dvs | Stevie-O: 3 words? no wonder my computer ran out of memory! |
| 01:07.21 | peterS | landan: libncurses5-dev |
| 01:07.32 | landan | thanks everyone :) |
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| 01:07.41 | dvs | peterS: what took you so long? ;-) |
| 01:07.50 | peterS | dvs: wasn't watching the channel (: |
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| 01:10.05 | TraceGreen | Hello, I have a qt program, but this program would have two different themes on my two computers, I use fluxbox, does it because of fluxbox? |
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| 01:10.39 | thevic | if i use apt-get to install packages, will they be marked as installed in aptitude? |
| 01:10.53 | dondelelcaro | thevic: no |
| 01:11.06 | wireddd | is there an alternative for mozilla-mplayer that uses xine? |
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| 01:12.11 | itchi | dondelelcaro: It's better to use aptitude i think? But why the most people tell to apt-get install ? |
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| 01:12.44 | dondelelcaro | itchi: habit, mostly. It's only post-woody that aptitude has become viable. |
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| 01:13.42 | itchi | dondelelcaro: ;-) |
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| 01:14.13 | dondelelcaro | there are some people who don't like aptitude, but they're becomming fewer and fewer... (and most of them prefer dselect) |
| 01:14.22 | Stevie-O | wait |
| 01:14.26 | Stevie-O | there are people who use dselect? |
| 01:14.29 | dondelelcaro | sure |
| 01:14.43 | Stevie-O | did you see the Davinci code? |
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| 01:16.27 | Daishi | back |
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| 01:16.29 | jelly-home | what's wrong with aptitude? One can use it simply as a smarter apt-get. |
| 01:16.33 | dvs | front |
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| 01:16.40 | Daishi | so er abrotman any idea whats wrong? |
| 01:16.50 | Daishi | my only current solution is to downgrade |
| 01:16.53 | abrotman | Daishi: do you really have a neomagic card? |
| 01:16.58 | Daishi | erm no |
| 01:16.59 | dvs | Will someone shoot tilrman? |
| 01:17.07 | abrotman | Daishi: oddly .. your system thinks it does |
| 01:17.08 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: there are bugs in it; see bugs.debian.org/aptitude; FE. |
| 01:17.09 | Daishi | i have an ati radeon like 7500 |
| 01:17.10 | abrotman | or your config does |
| 01:17.16 | Daishi | thats weird |
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| 01:17.22 | Daishi | cause i specifically configed it with ati |
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| 01:18.00 | dondelelcaro | dvs: it's most likely someone using the dcc exploit in a channel that tilrman is in |
| 01:18.10 | Daishi | and i think it told me it was a 7200 when auto-doing it |
| 01:18.15 | Daishi | i have to look over that config |
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| 01:19.30 | Daishi | wtf it has neomagic filed in |
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| 01:19.33 | Daishi | thats dumb |
| 01:19.39 | Daishi | thanks though abrotman |
| 01:19.41 | Daishi | this may be it |
| 01:20.12 | abrotman | Daishi: make more sense now? :) |
| 01:20.17 | Daishi | yea heh |
| 01:20.26 | Daishi | i dont see how i missed that |
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| 01:21.56 | Daishi | maybe now i can get out of windows |
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| 01:23.51 | jjazz | grep -p returns 'grep: The -P option is not supported'. Is there a version of grep that does support this option? |
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| 01:24.44 | charzero | Is there a howto for loop-aes partition encryption on Etch? |
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| 01:27.13 | jelly-home | jjazz: there's pcregrep which is a different beast altogether, but I think it supports perl compatible regexps. |
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| 01:28.21 | peterS | jjazz: what did you think grep -p or -P would do? |
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| 01:29.09 | itchi | On my etch box, my Flight Gear Flight simulator no more work, before it was been working on Sarge, when i run it, i get an erro terminate called after throwing an instance of 'sg_io_exception' Aborted I have Goolge it but there's no related info about it |
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| 01:29.17 | jjazz | peterS: grep with perl regex |
| 01:29.31 | peterS | jjazz: then yeah, use pcregrep as jelly-home says |
| 01:29.32 | jjazz | jelly: thanks. I'll check it out |
| 01:30.11 | jjazz | peterS: From man grep: -P, --perl-regexp |
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| 01:30.17 | jjazz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:30.38 | itchi | I have also look for know bugs, but theres also nothings. Someone have Etch and want to look if he have the same error ? Nice simulator, you go to see it ;-) |
| 01:31.04 | Daishi | woo it worked! |
| 01:31.06 | Daishi | thanks abrotman |
| 01:31.16 | peterS | jjazz: ah, indeed, grep is not compiled with the pcre library, probably because then the latter would have to be pulled into the debian base system |
| 01:31.26 | Daishi | turns out i was getting a message about /etc/X11/X being modified so it not writing the new conf |
| 01:31.28 | Daishi | which is weird |
| 01:31.30 | Daishi | i copied an old one |
| 01:31.34 | jelly-home | jjazz: afair grep in Debian isn't built with that option because disabled because it's used in bootup process when you might not have /usr/lib available yet. |
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| 01:31.59 | peterS | pcre is already installed on most debian systems by default since exim4 uses it |
| 01:32.00 | Daishi | also weird now...when i start Xorg i hear a short high-pitched squeek coming from my monitor |
| 01:32.35 | abrotman | Daishi: yeah .. who has a neomagic anyways! |
| 01:32.46 | peterS | abrotman: anyone with an old toshiba laptop (: other than that, I don't know |
| 01:32.51 | abrotman | tilrway: fix your damn internet |
| 01:32.53 | Daishi | abrotman: heh |
| 01:32.55 | abrotman | peterS: gateway too |
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| 01:33.00 | Daishi | i wonder if that squeek is bad |
| 01:33.11 | Daishi | it scares me when my monitor makes a sound |
| 01:33.16 | abrotman | hey guess what! |
| 01:33.22 | peterS | what ? |
| 01:33.25 | abrotman | MORE RAIN! |
| 01:33.31 | Daishi | i mean i know tvs have like hardware switching and make an annoying sound all the time |
| 01:33.36 | Daishi | but monitors just shouldnt do that |
| 01:33.41 | itchi | abrotman: After rain come sun :-p |
| 01:33.49 | Daishi | after rain comes more rain |
| 01:33.50 | peterS | nor is it November |
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| 01:33.54 | abrotman | itchi: it's been raining since thursday |
| 01:34.05 | abrotman | peterS: GnR? |
| 01:34.08 | peterS | yes |
| 01:34.14 | abrotman | er wait |
| 01:34.18 | itchi | abrotman: Here we got also bad weather this last week :-/ |
| 01:34.21 | abrotman | Guns and Fucking Roses! |
| 01:34.34 | jelly-home | peterS: 'tleast it's not Peter Gabriel ;-) |
| 01:34.37 | peterS | Guns! on a rose! |
| 01:34.47 | dvs | abrotman: Welcome to Vancouver! |
| 01:34.49 | peterS | jelly-home: I'm not ashamed of my 80s music |
| 01:34.53 | jelly-home | or Eurythmics |
| 01:34.54 | abrotman | dvs: i'm in philly |
| 01:35.02 | dvs | abrotman: Vancouver came to you |
| 01:35.09 | peterS | jelly-home: after November Rain comes 'Learning to Fly'. another 80s song. |
| 01:35.13 | abrotman | dvs: more like monsoon season |
| 01:35.15 | jelly-home | peterS: or Roxette - Queen of Rain |
| 01:35.27 | abrotman | peterS: November Rain was not an 80s song |
| 01:35.35 | peterS | wasn't it? when did it come out ... early 90s then? |
| 01:35.41 | abrotman | 1992 i think |
| 01:35.41 | tengulre11 | Hi, American!!! |
| 01:35.52 | peterS | right, that sounds right. I just think of GnR as an 80s band |
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| 01:36.20 | abrotman | the band instead chose to release Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II as two separate albums on September 17, 1991. |
| 01:36.21 | drac-laptop | hihi, how can i resize my linux ext3 partition |
| 01:36.53 | abrotman | peterS: the sad part .. i knew it wasn't an 80s song :) |
| 01:37.04 | peterS | abrotman: I should've known that too, though |
| 01:37.06 | dvs | !pity abrotman |
| 01:37.07 | dpkg | I pity da fool abrotman! |
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| 01:37.12 | Daishi | erm debian no long has glxinfo? |
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| 01:37.23 | Daishi | i wanted to make sure dri was working...looks like it was removed |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | peterS: you're getting old and forgetful :) |
| 01:37.33 | itchi | drac-laptop: With gparted |
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| 01:37.52 | abrotman | peterS: did you buy your motley crue/aerosmith tix yet?!?! |
| 01:37.52 | peterS | abrotman: quite so. though I was forgetful 2 days ago too, when I was still only 30 |
| 01:38.09 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:38.14 | loiic | is it possible to chmod recursively but only the change only on folders and not on the files? |
| 01:38.14 | abrotman | !birthday peterS |
| 01:38.15 | itchi | Daishi: You need to have the fglrx package installed for it |
| 01:38.21 | peterS | yay, soylent green |
| 01:38.23 | Daishi | ohh thats the name |
| 01:38.25 | Halleck | haha |
| 01:38.38 | Daishi | ok erm theres no such package |
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| 01:38.41 | peterS | I never actually read that story |
| 01:38.53 | itchi | Daishi: Try pprace or somethings with 3D and you see it directly |
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| 01:38.57 | jelly-home | !find bin/glxinfo |
| 01:39.02 | Nexus | I just installed a new kernel, but the server is still looking under the old kernel version for modules... Where is it getting this info? |
| 01:39.04 | peterS | Daishi: fglrx is in non-free, I think |
| 01:39.12 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/glxinfo' (1): (/usr/bin/glxinfo) in x11/mesa-utils. |
| 01:39.22 | Daishi | i have the non-free repo specified |
| 01:39.29 | abrotman | peterS: wait .. which learning to fly? |
| 01:39.38 | jelly-home | Daishi: what dpkg said ^^^ |
| 01:39.42 | peterS | abrotman: p. floyd, 1987 |
| 01:39.55 | abrotman | just making sure it wasn't Petty .. which wasn't an 80s song either :) |
| 01:39.58 | Daishi | jeffloc: yea heh |
| 01:40.02 | Halleck | good stuff |
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| 01:40.15 | loiic | is it possible to chmod recursively but to only apply the change on directories, ie. leaving the files permissions as they are? (sorry for the english) |
| 01:40.16 | peterS | abrotman: hmm, you sure Petty wasn't 80s? when did that one come out then? |
| 01:40.29 | abrotman | peterS: about the same time as November Rain :) |
| 01:40.52 | Daishi | woo still works! |
| 01:41.05 | peterS | abrotman: I'll have to check on that |
| 01:41.12 | abrotman | peterS: let's wiki together! |
| 01:41.35 | abrotman | 1991"Learning to Fly"281-Into The Great Wide Open |
| 01:42.00 | itchi | Daishi: I had think to read fglrinfo :-/ |
| 01:42.28 | abrotman | Daishi: which ati card |
| 01:42.28 | Daishi | /: |
| 01:42.28 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:42.34 | peterS | abrotman: my word, you're right, it's 1991. according to the liner notes of his Greatest Hits cd |
| 01:42.36 | Daishi | radeon 7200 it seems |
| 01:42.42 | itchi | abrotman: Which characters have you use for that ^^ |
| 01:42.47 | Daishi | its like older than anything else in my system |
| 01:42.48 | abrotman | peterS: next you'll think billy ocean was cool |
| 01:42.56 | Nexus | I just installed a new kernel, but the server is still looking under the old kernel version for modules... Where is it getting this info? uname -a also shows the old kernel... |
| 01:42.56 | abrotman | Daishi: you don't need any nonfree driver for that |
| 01:43.01 | Daishi | i know |
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| 01:43.06 | peterS | abrotman: not sure if that will happen, but I do happen to be a fan of 80s (and 1991) tom petty |
| 01:43.10 | itchi | Daishi: Oh, its been like i was thinking then |
| 01:43.19 | Daishi | itchi: ? |
| 01:43.29 | itchi | Daishi: It's late here :-/ |
| 01:43.31 | dvs | Nexus: It's either lilo or grub. Whatever you use |
| 01:43.33 | abrotman | Daishi: so what doesn't work? |
| 01:43.36 | abrotman | itchi: so go to bed :) |
| 01:43.38 | Daishi | nothing now heh |
| 01:43.44 | abrotman | peterS: isn't everyone! |
| 01:43.47 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah :-) |
| 01:43.54 | Daishi | i just was wondering why glxinfo disappeared |
| 01:43.59 | peterS | abrotman: now playing: Astronomy Domine. I'm not sure if that's 60s or 70s, to be honest. |
| 01:44.01 | abrotman | peterS: i will confess now! .. i have 4-5 cases of cassettes in my closet .. featuring things like ... Trixter |
| 01:44.06 | itchi | abrotman: 03:47 AM here :-/ |
| 01:44.11 | abrotman | itchi: hit the hay |
| 01:44.11 | Daishi | but dpkg and whoever queried it (i forgot) helped out |
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| 01:44.17 | Administrator_ | wtf dudes there is debian woman? |
| 01:44.21 | Nexus | dvs, Grub has the proper information in it poiting to the new (and only) kernel on the box... |
| 01:44.23 | Administrator_ | that is such a turn off |
| 01:44.25 | abrotman | Administrator_: wrong channel |
| 01:44.29 | jelly-home | itchi: fix your clock, tis' only 03:44 |
| 01:44.44 | Administrator_ | abrotman, #debian-woman is empty |
| 01:44.44 | itchi | jelly-home: Im running an AMD :-p |
| 01:44.52 | peterS | Administrator_: they're on irc.debian.org now |
| 01:44.56 | dvs | Nexus: Huh? Only? Then how can it boot into another kernel if there is only one kernel? |
| 01:45.07 | abrotman | peterS: i don't think he's looking to be a nice guy |
| 01:45.17 | peterS | abrotman: well, if not, they can deal with him |
| 01:45.22 | Administrator_ | peterS, empty to |
| 01:45.32 | peterS | Administrator_: are you sure you're on irc.debian.org? this network isn't |
| 01:45.48 | Administrator_ | irc.debian is now irc.oftc right? |
| 01:45.54 | Daishi | yea |
| 01:45.57 | peterS | Administrator_: also #debian-women, not #debian-woman |
| 01:45.59 | Nexus | dvs, That's the problem. IT's running on the new kernel, but it's still looking for modules in the old path. I can't figure out how to wake it up to the new world. :) |
| 01:46.08 | peterS | Administrator_: i.e., it helps to spell it correctly |
| 01:46.19 | Administrator_ | :P |
| 01:46.20 | dvs | Nexus: depmod -a ? |
| 01:46.21 | itchi | I try to fix (searching on the net) to get my lovely Flight Gear Flight Simulator again working. I get an damn error terminate called after throwing an instance of 'sg_io_exception' Aborted |
| 01:46.23 | jelly-home | peterS: maybe there's only one <grin> |
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| 01:46.55 | Nexus | dvs, WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/oldpath.... |
| 01:46.56 | itchi | Someone discover the same trouble on an Etch box ? ^^ |
| 01:46.59 | magyar | jelly-home: is there a howto on labeling disk partitions? |
| 01:47.00 | peterS | jelly-home: no, but last I heard, there's a lot more men in there than women. I wouldn't know, I haven't visited since 2004 or so |
| 01:47.01 | abrotman | peterS: TRIXTER! |
| 01:47.15 | peterS | abrotman: I am very happy not to know who they are |
| 01:47.20 | abrotman | some crap hair band |
| 01:47.25 | itchi | Like there's not an bug report. I want to know if it's an local trouble or an bug |
| 01:47.26 | stoned | abrotman, I quit |
| 01:47.31 | abrotman | stoned: quit work> |
| 01:47.32 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:47.33 | stoned | weed |
| 01:47.37 | stoned | for work :) |
| 01:47.44 | tengulre11 | Hi,all, I m terry. Nice to meet u!! |
| 01:47.44 | stoned | I feel better already |
| 01:47.52 | dvs | !smite tengulre11 |
| 01:47.56 | peterS | stoned: so change your nick, dude |
| 01:48.01 | stoned | lol |
| 01:48.06 | stoned | only temprary |
| 01:48.13 | peterS | figures |
| 01:48.20 | peterS | they let you work in that condition, then? |
| 01:48.35 | dvs | peterS: Yes, he works for Dell. ;-) |
| 01:48.40 | stoned | lol not yet |
| 01:48.49 | stoned | I have yet to have an interview and pass a pee test |
| 01:48.53 | peterS | dvs: so, being high would be ok. still not sure about drunk |
| 01:49.00 | stoned | no I don't drink |
| 01:49.22 | CompWizrd | it's not a beer ,it's his blood |
| 01:49.26 | abrotman | he could be drunk stoned and tripping .. and still fit in at dell |
| 01:49.35 | stoned | but I did buy some absolute vodka tonight, little bitty bottle |
| 01:49.43 | stoned | I dunno what to make of it except straight shots |
| 01:49.47 | peterS | is that like absolut vodka? |
| 01:49.48 | dvs | stoned: Absolut Vodka |
| 01:49.53 | stoned | hellifiknow about alcohols |
| 01:49.53 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:49.57 | jelly-home | magyar: there's not much to it. If you use ext2 or ext3, do "e2label /dev/sda1 label", then put LABEL=label in /etc/fstab instead of /dev/sda1. (I usually use mount point names as labels, like "/var", "/home", etc.) |
| 01:50.12 | abrotman | polar bear piss? |
| 01:50.21 | peterS | I dunno, I'm pretty generic when it comes to those things. vodka plus any sort of soft drink seems to work fine |
| 01:50.28 | stoned | well they said the best vodka they have is Absolut |
| 01:50.28 | Nexus | dvs, So where does depmod and lsmod and modprobe get it's path of where to search? |
| 01:50.39 | dvs | Nexus: I don't know |
| 01:50.40 | stoned | so I bought it, little bottle was 12$ man |
| 01:50.49 | dvs | Nexus: I thought it was compiled into the kernel |
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| 01:51.16 | peterS | vodka straight is a waste, it doesn't taste good on its own, you really want it in jello shots or with coke or whatever. but what do I know. |
| 01:51.33 | abrotman | i once drank cherry vodka with mt dew |
| 01:51.37 | jelly-home | magyar: there's no way to label a swap partition, though. :-( |
| 01:51.45 | peterS | abrotman: *nod*, that sounds reasonable to me |
| 01:51.55 | abrotman | peterS: it sounded like drunk to me :) |
| 01:52.05 | peterS | well, that too, depending on the quantities involved |
| 01:52.07 | abrotman | nevermind we almost burnt down the whole apartment complex |
| 01:52.18 | abrotman | there were SOBER people in the place .. not my fault! |
| 01:52.26 | abrotman | darn lazy enablers |
| 01:52.55 | jelly-home | abrotman: hey, someone has to drive home all the drunk people. |
| 01:52.58 | abrotman | eh .. what's the american part? |
| 01:53.04 | abrotman | jelly-home: we were already home :) |
| 01:53.17 | peterS | I don't remember what was in it actually |
| 01:53.24 | peterS | nothing so tame as an olive though |
| 01:53.41 | jelly-home | abrotman: hrm. maybe their religion forbade drinking on that day-of-week. |
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| 01:54.07 | abrotman | i much prefer tequila |
| 01:54.10 | yawg | where is the config file for screen resolutions? |
| 01:54.11 | abrotman | and yes .. i still missed DC6 |
| 01:54.17 | yawg | i'm stuck on 800x600 |
| 01:54.17 | abrotman | !drxx yawg |
| 01:54.18 | dpkg | yawg: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:54.23 | peterS | abrotman: yeah, if you wanted tequila, you really should've been there |
| 01:54.25 | yawg | yeah i did that |
| 01:54.26 | yawg | it's still low |
| 01:54.35 | abrotman | peterS: trust me .. you guys didn't want that kind of trouble :) |
| 01:54.42 | yawg | !xmd5 |
| 01:54.43 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 01:54.47 | peterS | abrotman: I bet we could've handled you |
| 01:55.06 | abrotman | peterS: i'm sure novelty handcuffs could have kept me tied up for an hour or so |
| 01:55.28 | abrotman | i'm more of a "I'm drunk and i want to go to bed now" kind of guy |
| 01:55.39 | abrotman | guess i'm getting old |
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| 01:55.43 | peterS | abrotman: oh, you made it sound much worse (: |
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| 01:56.10 | abrotman | peterS: i can be .. some days .. but usually i just go to bed .. but i've gotten in tons of trouble before |
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| 01:56.31 | abrotman | but i drink beer mostly these days .. |
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| 01:56.48 | peterS | there was a lot of beer going on too |
| 01:56.55 | abrotman | oh i'm sure |
| 01:57.04 | peterS | well, modelo and corona anyway |
| 01:57.35 | abrotman | yeah .. mmm .. tequila .. |
| 01:57.42 | abrotman | it's actually mezcal i really like ... |
| 01:57.57 | peterS | abrotman: and still you couldn't come to mexico. bah. |
| 01:58.05 | abrotman | damog would have done me in .. i'd have been locked up somewhere |
| 01:58.19 | peterS | I asked him how he hadn't managed to get you down there |
| 01:58.24 | abrotman | it was close .. |
| 01:58.28 | abrotman | lots of stuff going on at work |
| 01:58.48 | peterS | abrotman: well, debconf7 is edinburgh or sarajevo, both of those would be fun, don't you think? debconf8 they are talking about argentina |
| 01:58.49 | abrotman | very close |
| 01:58.58 | abrotman | peterS: DC8 in philly? .. sounds great |
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| 01:59.21 | peterS | abrotman: I've told you before, many people are afraid to travel to the US (or can't get visas), anything in the US is a very problematic venue for those reasons |
| 01:59.41 | damog | peterS: DC will not happen in the US |
| 01:59.52 | peterS | we're too afraid of the terrrrrists, it's hard to get visas for people |
| 01:59.54 | abrotman | peterS: even damog got a visa .. and he's part loco |
| 02:00.23 | abrotman | peterS: i still think they're overreacting |
| 02:00.28 | abrotman | MORE RAIN! |
| 02:00.44 | CompWizrd | peterS: i thought it was that debian was afraid of the gov't? :) |
| 02:01.27 | peterS | abrotman: I don't blame people for being afraid to travel to the US, actually |
| 02:01.27 | abrotman | i think they're wussies |
| 02:01.27 | peterS | CompWizrd: we've learned the Lesson of Dmitry. if you aren't sure what that means, google for 'dmitry sklyarov' |
| 02:01.27 | abrotman | it's not like mexico is exactly the safest place |
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| 02:01.27 | CompWizrd | yup yup |
| 02:01.27 | dvs | abrotman: yeah, especially for us! |
| 02:01.29 | CompWizrd | not too sure canada is safe now that harper is in power either |
| 02:01.31 | peterS | abrotman: nobody gets arrested by the FBI for setting foot in mexico. or whatever their equivalent is. |
| 02:01.51 | dvs | CompWizrd: Wait a year |
| 02:02.13 | abrotman | peterS: remember .. they told us they were having it early because of the elections and the problems it might cause for foreigners |
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| 02:03.09 | peterS | abrotman: oh, possible. I hadn't heard that. but I do understand the reluctance of people to travel to the US. our government here is not only very powerful but _also_ ... unfriendly. countries like mexico, the government does something and international pressure could be brought to bear |
| 02:03.23 | abrotman | we love everyone ... |
| 02:03.32 | abrotman | i'd bust damog out of jail ... |
| 02:03.34 | dvs | ha! |
| 02:03.48 | CompWizrd | dvs: yeah :) |
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| 02:03.57 | ZEUGMA | hello |
| 02:04.03 | ZEUGMA | i need to enable gd in php |
| 02:04.05 | CompWizrd | at least the conservatives "promised" to get rid of the gun registry |
| 02:04.11 | ZEUGMA | i would say it is enabled but not sure |
| 02:04.16 | CompWizrd | gun registry was supposed to cost 2 million, it's at 1.2 billion so far, and not done yet |
| 02:04.19 | abrotman | php4-gd |
| 02:04.21 | peterS | someone remind me why our biggest and best prison is actually in cuba |
| 02:04.21 | stew | ZEUGMA: apt-get install php4-gd |
| 02:04.26 | ZEUGMA | is it enabled by default in debian stable? |
| 02:04.26 | dvs | CompWizrd: so we can have more guns running around! yeah! |
| 02:04.47 | CompWizrd | dvs: like the gun registry controlled that anyways :) |
| 02:04.57 | peterS | ZEUGMA: not sure - check /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 02:05.14 | CompWizrd | my shotguns are registered, thanks to the loophole of you not needing to go through a safety course like you did with the FAC, i'm all set :) |
| 02:05.29 | peterS | ZEUGMA: look for 'extension=gd.so' without a ; before it |
| 02:05.38 | ZEUGMA | thanks StereoSkit |
| 02:05.45 | ZEUGMA | thanks stew i meant |
| 02:05.53 | ZEUGMA | i didn't have php4-gd |
| 02:05.59 | ZEUGMA | that's all i need to do? |
| 02:06.06 | Halleck | stupid question probably, but how do I set my machine to use a specific static IP? |
| 02:06.09 | peterS | ZEUGMA: once you have the php4-gd package, check /etc/php4/apache/php.ini to see if it is enabled |
| 02:06.12 | stew | ZEUGMA: after you install it, follow peterS' advice |
| 02:06.31 | peterS | Halleck: edit /etc/network/interfaces. 'man interfaces' for info |
| 02:06.45 | Halleck | thanks |
| 02:06.47 | peterS | Halleck: I think there's a script 'etherconf' which will do this for you, not sure |
| 02:07.12 | abrotman | Halleck: or .. man 5 interfaces |
| 02:07.55 | abrotman | DC in philly! |
| 02:08.11 | peterS | abrotman: damog is right, it probably won't happen. too many people opposed. |
| 02:08.18 | abrotman | let them stay home! |
| 02:08.36 | abrotman | if they can't spend a little time in jail for convictions .. who wants them! |
| 02:08.38 | peterS | I never liked onions, anyway - so the cheese steak doesn't really have that allure |
| 02:08.47 | abrotman | you don't hve ot have wit onions |
| 02:09.02 | peterS | I can have a cheese steak without onions? w00t |
| 02:09.05 | dvs | abrotman: No, DC in Toronto. Wait a minute.... |
| 02:09.11 | peterS | dvs: heh |
| 02:09.15 | abrotman | dvs: montreal or quebec i'd do |
| 02:09.27 | peterS | canada has had a DC now, so I guess it won't get to for awhile |
| 02:09.29 | CompWizrd | DC8 in h.264! |
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| 02:10.24 | ZEUGMA | peterS and stew |
| 02:10.33 | ZEUGMA | i have this at the end of php.ini |
| 02:10.35 | ZEUGMA | extension=gd.so |
| 02:10.37 | peterS | DC8 needs to be out in the caribbean somewhere. of course, it needs to be somewhere affordable to hold a conference at, and to travel to |
| 02:10.45 | ZEUGMA | that means it's enabled? |
| 02:10.49 | peterS | ZEUGMA: there you go then. /etc/init.d/apache reload |
| 02:10.55 | CompWizrd | peterS: and internet that's not done by pigeon. |
| 02:11.06 | dvs | peterS: Haiti? ;-) |
| 02:11.08 | CompWizrd | or parrot |
| 02:11.10 | peterS | CompWizrd: oh I'm sure some of those islands have decent internet connections |
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| 02:11.20 | peterS | dvs: well, see CompWizrd's requirement |
| 02:11.30 | SinnerG | my server is really slow @ resolving hostnames - any ideas? |
| 02:11.37 | dvs | petemc: Oops! |
| 02:11.42 | SinnerG | I think I misconfigured something |
| 02:11.44 | SinnerG | but I dont know what :s |
| 02:11.45 | CompWizrd | peterS: please add: "and most of the conference attenders survive to come home" to the list |
| 02:11.49 | SinnerG | atleast 1s / each resolve |
| 02:11.59 | peterS | dvs: I shouldn't make assumptions, maybe haiti has nice venues for this sort of thing. I don't know it well |
| 02:12.16 | abrotman | peterS: i asked damog the other day .. i didn't realize that Puerto Rico as a territory has to follow US rules about visas and crap |
| 02:12.31 | peterS | CompWizrd: we should have dc8 in cuba. then the only internet we'll get is bootlegged in some way |
| 02:12.38 | dvs | peterS: I wouldn't go there if it's the last place on Earth. WAY too much political unrest |
| 02:12.45 | ZEUGMA | worked! |
| 02:12.50 | ZEUGMA | thanks |
| 02:13.05 | dabreegster | How about one of the southern states? |
| 02:13.10 | damog | peterS: I didn't get any internet there for almost four days |
| 02:13.11 | heh_v_water | as in transportation busses hehe |
| 02:13.20 | peterS | dabreegster: that's what they're thinking now. argentina to be precise |
| 02:13.32 | CompWizrd | seahaven! |
| 02:13.34 | CompWizrd | or whatever the name is |
| 02:13.46 | abrotman | dabreegster: eh .. wtf .. that's worse than philly |
| 02:13.49 | dabreegster | peterS: Er, southern US states |
| 02:13.56 | peterS | CompWizrd: Sealand, home of Haven Co., is off the coast of England, not in the new world |
| 02:14.01 | abrotman | DC9 in Alabama! |
| 02:14.07 | dabreegster | abrotman: But I could be able to go! If it's during summer break, of course. |
| 02:14.13 | peterS | dabreegster: see above about US visas and people being afraid to travel here because of our oppressive government |
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| 02:14.19 | abrotman | HEY Y'ALL .. Who wants some grits! |
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| 02:14.57 | peterS | dabreegster: it's been said that international technical conferences in the US are just not feasible because of getting visas, even if people aren't afraid of this country |
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| 02:15.22 | CompWizrd | abrotman: third world, eh? |
| 02:15.23 | vitry | hi people. I'm finding a templeate for my fwbuilder. Can you help me? |
| 02:15.26 | peterS | it's the first hopeful sign of brain drain attributable to our wonderful terrrrrist policies |
| 02:15.32 | abrotman | CompWizrd: alabama? |
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| 02:15.36 | CompWizrd | sure |
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| 02:16.02 | peterS | anyone who calls alabama third world has likely never traveled to either |
| 02:16.04 | abrotman | eh .. i'm sure it wouldn't be that bad .. i would just hate to show that to someone who's never been to .us .. and have them use that as a representation of the country |
| 02:16.25 | abrotman | peterS: you think alabama is fourth world ? |
| 02:16.48 | abrotman | admittedly .. i'm sure there are some great things to do in alabama .. i just don't know of a single thing besides bass fishing :) |
| 02:16.50 | peterS | nope. I've seriously lived in the third world and nothing in the US, nowhere in the US, comes close to what I've seen |
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| 02:17.18 | dabreegster | Southern states have fresh seafood and Cajun food. That's got to count for something. |
| 02:17.30 | abrotman | dabreegster: cajun food is in basically one state |
| 02:17.36 | peterS | it's like looking at a computer from 1995 and seeing how slow it runs and saying it's equivalent to a vacuum tube computer |
| 02:17.44 | dvs | abrotman: New Hampshire? |
| 02:17.45 | peterS | nobody who had ever used a vacuum tube computer would think such a thing |
| 02:17.49 | abrotman | dvs: i'd do it! |
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| 02:18.14 | CompWizrd | dabreegster: and hurricanes! |
| 02:18.18 | dabreegster | CompWizrd: And evacuees! |
| 02:18.28 | dabreegster | CompWizrd: And crime, traffic, mosquitoes, humidity! |
| 02:18.50 | abrotman | i like NOLA .. a lot |
| 02:18.58 | peterS | it's still there? |
| 02:19.00 | dabreegster | abrotman: Have you been lately? |
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| 02:19.24 | dabreegster | There've been suicides and stuff there lately. |
| 02:19.31 | dabreegster | Anyway, someone needs the line. Bye. |
| 02:20.07 | Halleck | so should something like "iface eth0 inet static address 66.47.226.205 netmask 255.255.255.0" work? |
| 02:20.10 | abrotman | i was to nola in .. 2001 and 2003 |
| 02:20.43 | abrotman | and no .... i haven't been anywhere in .. quite some time |
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| 02:21.47 | abrotman | no .. i mean .. i haven't been really anywhere |
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| 02:22.11 | itchi_ | It's looks that i have got an strange trouble in Etch that give some strange network troubles. Network still work it's looks but there are some little part that are buggy or so. Like with xchat i can not more connect to the nickserv. The dict applet of gnome no more work an could connect to the server and it's looks that my flight Gear Simulator also no more work because of that strange network trouble. Someone discovered the same thing ? |
| 02:22.19 | Nexus | So no matter what I try, I can't get the kernel to move to a version other than what I originally installed... I've got a new kernel installed, but when it boots to it in grub, it choses the latest kernel, but still, uname -a and depmod all say the old. |
| 02:22.26 | abrotman | itchi_: go to bed already |
| 02:22.30 | Nexus | Anyone have any tips for me on how to get the new kernel to take? |
| 02:22.56 | itchi_ | abrotman: Yeah, i have time for that next day :-p I'm an strange guy with days of 36 hours :-/ |
| 02:23.09 | abrotman | right |
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| 02:25.11 | itchi | Remember you that i have a bit complain this day that i could not more connect to the nickserv ? It's not solved, for x or y raison and it's looks that it's an local trouble here, not with irc and so :-/ |
| 02:26.08 | itchi | Also my bot of #debian-Belguim got troubles i just discover : Tried to identify without a NickServ or password |
| 02:26.12 | astronaute | can someone help me with proftpd plz ? : need to force DefaultRoot ~ for all users except ONE, DefaultRoot ~ is working for all actually, just need to add something to allow one user without this restriction. |
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| 02:26.49 | itchi | Someone running Etch here ? |
| 02:27.15 | itchi | To wich reportbug can i begin to look? |
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| 02:29.04 | itchi | I start an virtual machine and go to do some updates on it to look if i get there als the same trouble |
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| 02:29.37 | itchi | I guess that there are many people here that use Etch, right? |
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| 02:31.46 | astronaute | any proftpd users here plz ? ^ |
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| 02:33.12 | itchi | astronaute: I not know if this can help you http://www.debian-administration.org/tag/ftp |
| 02:33.40 | astronaute | ill try it =) |
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| 02:37.36 | itchi | abrotman: Are you running Etch ? |
| 02:37.48 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:38.19 | itchi | abrotman: Have you not get the same trouble as my ? ^^ |
| 02:38.41 | Warbo | Hi, is there any way I can give aptitude a set of packages to mark for installation from a text file? (I want to go through tweaking the specifics) |
| 02:38.42 | abrotman | with a virtual machine? |
| 02:38.42 | itchi | abrotman: I try now in an virtual computer and hope i get the same trouble |
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| 02:38.55 | abrotman | Warbo: man dpkg .. look for --set-selections |
| 02:39.04 | Warbo | abrotman: Thanks |
| 02:40.15 | itchi | abrotman: No it's here on my main computer, i try in an virtual one |
| 02:40.32 | abrotman | whatis the problem? |
| 02:41.33 | goose_keeper | #flood |
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| 02:42.37 | itchi | abrotman: At first with xchat i no more get contact of chanserv, The dict applet of gnome no more work, My bot that also no more could make contact wiht chanserv Flight Gears also crash because he need to make an network conection with wathever.network troubles |
| 02:43.06 | abrotman | maybe you got banned |
| 02:43.53 | itchi | abrotman: No, because i get and discover many little troubles that are related to the network. Network still work but it's looks partially |
| 02:44.02 | abrotman | reboot |
| 02:44.17 | itchi | abrotman: Just done also :-/ |
| 02:45.31 | axolx | hey guys. where's debian's X documentation (i'm using Xorg) |
| 02:45.44 | itchi | abrotman: I had talk with an staff of freenode and hi find it also strange that i no more could register my to the chanserv. He have reset my pass and so. With irssi it work but it's still strange i find. I have do an update this day, i not know if it's the raison. That's why i want to test in an virtual computer |
| 02:46.12 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:46.18 | abrotman | axolx: man X ? |
| 02:46.50 | Mithenks | axolx: /usr/share/doc |
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| 02:49.53 | iank | Heya folks. Running unstable, just upgraded to a new version of my wm (wmii) that I /really/ don't like. Where can I find the past few versions of a particular package? (For reference, I'm running 'unstable') |
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| 02:51.18 | axolx | Mithenks: /usr/share/doc contains documentation for a lot of packages. what directory in particular are you talking about? |
| 02:52.21 | axolx | abrotman: man Xorg describes the Xorg command. do you know where the documentation for X as a system is? |
| 02:52.34 | abrotman | axolx: wiki.x.org ? |
| 02:52.34 | Mithenks | yeah, a lot of packages, so find that from the X ones |
| 02:52.47 | Mithenks | /usr/share/doc/xserver* |
| 02:52.48 | axolx | Mithenks: ok thanks. |
| 02:53.49 | axolx | k found it. in case anyone's interested: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/ |
| 02:54.10 | itchi | abrotman: Have you do an update today ? |
| 02:54.11 | yawg | i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and i still can't set my monitor to larger resolutions, is there a service i need to restart first? |
| 02:54.18 | abrotman | itchi: yep |
| 02:54.30 | itchi | abrotman: And nothings suspected ? |
| 02:55.01 | abrotman | itchi: nope .. everything works perfectly |
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| 02:55.29 | itchi | abrotman: I not understand what partially can block here :-/ |
| 02:55.44 | abrotman | lots of things |
| 02:56.55 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, right. But i have not make any change of some things. I have take an lazy day :-/ Installed my 3D on Etch, work a bit on my both. But i did nothings of changes |
| 02:57.14 | itchi | s/both/bot |
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| 02:58.12 | itchi | abrotman: Is there an place ala slashdot but for bugs or so ? |
| 02:58.21 | s0crates | hello everyone, i just got a wireless mouse.. usb reciever.. but it's not recognized. i have usb keyboard and that works.. also, i'm using 2.6.15 kernel |
| 02:58.33 | abrotman | !tell itchi about bts |
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| 02:59.49 | itchi | abrotman: That i have already do :-/ i have not found anything suspected. And like i also not know what are the cause. It's a bit complicate to browse in the whole list of bugs |
| 03:00.27 | s0crates | does kernel 2.6.16 support wireless? |
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| 03:00.34 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:00.46 | abrotman | itchi: try another IRC client |
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| 03:02.30 | itchi | abrotman: Yes, with irssi i not got that trouble. But's that network trouble affect many other little things :-/ The gnome dict applet, fgfs, my bot, ... I have as first check te firewall (firestarter) and open everything, we never know. But it's not that to |
| 03:02.55 | abrotman | itchi: yo'll have to look through the BTS i guess ... all my stuff wroks fine |
| 03:03.28 | itchi | abrotman: I discove more an more little things that no more work concerning the network. Ok i check again. I have already check 2 hours non stop on it :-/ |
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| 03:03.50 | abrotman | you missed something |
| 03:04.03 | itchi | abrotman: I guess, but what ? :-( |
| 03:04.21 | abrotman | what's wrong |
| 03:04.39 | itchi | abrotman: I think it's that update, like it's the only thing i did :-/ |
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| 03:05.11 | itchi | abrotman: I not know what's wrong, i want to know ;-) |
| 03:06.17 | itchi | abrotman: Oh, i go to look to /var/log/dpkg to try to find what i have updated |
| 03:06.34 | abrotman | good idea |
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| 03:11.02 | itchi | abrotman: I get many lines like this one 2006-06-28 03:12:02 status half-configured fgfs-base 0.9.10-1 |
| 03:11.57 | falkon | abrotman: I did figure out my sound issue. I had to give permissions to /dev/snd for users |
| 03:12.12 | abrotman | no .. you had to be in the audio group |
| 03:12.21 | falkon | I was in the audio group |
| 03:12.28 | itchi | abrotman: I have already try apt-get -f install but he tell that everythings are right, so i try dpkg-reconfigure -a and it's already 5 minutes i wait |
| 03:12.41 | abrotman | ok |
| 03:13.35 | itchi | abrotman: But normally i have been good installed it, in not understand. A bug in dpkg or apt ? |
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| 03:15.37 | itchi | abrotman: acpi troubles, could that be are ? |
| 03:15.43 | abrotman | doubtful |
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| 03:22.52 | ferguscan | Anyone here use gcc and mudflap in unstable? I think it's broken. |
| 03:24.06 | itchi | ferguscan: Have you take an look on the bts ? |
| 03:26.01 | ferguscan | itchi, http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20060324.104516.e36c68cd.en.html |
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| 03:26.42 | Allen_ | anybody know how to check which video drivers im using? |
| 03:26.58 | ferguscan | itchi, one post from one guy experiencing my problem. But that was in March, and no replies. I'm wondering if he was simply ignored because nobody else could see the problem. |
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| 03:27.22 | itchi | ferguscan: I not know :-/ |
| 03:27.26 | ferguscan | :( |
| 03:27.31 | itchi | Allen_: First begin with lspci |
| 03:27.42 | ferguscan | Going to try another kernel version... |
| 03:27.57 | itchi | ferguscan: I'm looking here als for an strange bug i have got in Etch |
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| 03:28.47 | itchi | Allen_: What is you're vide card brand/model give it ? |
| 03:29.28 | Allen_ | yeaugh its tells me ive got nvidia mx440 |
| 03:29.33 | Allen_ | which is correct |
| 03:29.41 | Allen_ | but no driver information |
| 03:29.55 | itchi | Allen_: You need to install the nvidia one |
| 03:30.15 | itchi | !nvidia |
| 03:30.15 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 03:30.44 | itchi | Allen_: I have the same card on another comp here |
| 03:30.55 | itchi | Allen_: Running Sarge ? |
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| 03:31.15 | Allen_ | no actually xandros..but xandros was no help |
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| 03:31.42 | Allen_ | i got sarge somewhere though |
| 03:31.56 | itchi | Allen_: I not know how xandros runs, nor what it is :-/ You're here on #debian |
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| 03:32.52 | s0crates | how come when i try to apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati it apt wants to remove gnome? |
| 03:33.06 | Allen_ | yes i know...its debian based..that why i poped in |
| 03:33.17 | astronaute | hi guys, vsftpd cant start on my etch debian after aptgetting, is it normal ? |
| 03:33.37 | stew | Allen_: sorry, we don't support other distros here, only debian, please try #xandros, or if they can't help. look for a xandros mailing list |
| 03:33.38 | itchi | !non-debian |
| 03:33.38 | dpkg | methinks non-debian is #debian is for debian users and debian related questions. We aren't experts on other distros, and it gets frustrating when people from other distros ask for help in here. Use your common sense and ask in a channel where they know your distro. #linpeople, #linuxhelp, and #<name of your distro> are good places to start. |
| 03:33.46 | ricky_clarkson | s0crates: Try: apt-get install gnome xserver-xorg-video-ati- |
| 03:33.56 | ricky_clarkson | stew: Take a look: |
| 03:34.04 | ricky_clarkson | !not supporting xandros |
| 03:34.04 | dpkg | We have enough trouble not supporting Debian, without trying to not support xandros too. Try #xandros or donating money to charity. |
| 03:34.12 | stew | s0crates: what version of gnome do you have installed? |
| 03:34.22 | pabligeno | how install JDK ? |
| 03:34.28 | stew | pabligeno: /msg dpkg install java |
| 03:34.30 | pabligeno | ? |
| 03:34.37 | stew | !tell pabligeno about install java |
| 03:35.01 | itchi | pabligeno: /msg dpkg JDK |
| 03:35.14 | s0crates | stew: i'm not sure how to find out.. |
| 03:35.36 | stew | s0crates: what does "apt-cache policy gnome" say for Installed: |
| 03:35.47 | itchi | astronaute: Get you an error ?? Or try apt-get crystall ball |
| 03:36.02 | astronaute | itchi: no error |
| 03:36.11 | s0crates | stew: Installed: 1:2.12.3 |
| 03:36.11 | astronaute | i do apt-get install vsftpd |
| 03:36.22 | astronaute | it says starting vsftpd... |
| 03:36.29 | astronaute | but it is not started |
| 03:36.30 | itchi | astronaute: How proceed you to start it ? |
| 03:36.51 | itchi | astronaute: Is there not an lof file for that ftp server? |
| 03:36.52 | stew | s0crates: can you show us the command your are using to install the ati package and the exact output? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 03:36.56 | astronaute | after apt-get it start by itself |
| 03:36.58 | astronaute | vsftpd (2.0.3-1) |
| 03:37.08 | astronaute | vsftpd (2.0.3-1) |
| 03:37.10 | astronaute | sry |
| 03:37.15 | s0crates | sure, hold on a sec |
| 03:37.26 | itchi | astronaute: /etci/init.d/vsftpd restart ?? |
| 03:37.30 | astronaute | same thing if i do /etc/vsftpd start |
| 03:37.35 | astronaute | same |
| 03:37.40 | astronaute | Starting FTP server: vsftpd. |
| 03:37.45 | astronaute | andit is not started |
| 03:37.53 | astronaute | i didnt change anything |
| 03:38.02 | astronaute | just apt-get thats all |
| 03:38.11 | itchi | astronaute: Look to the log files located at /var/log/* The should be an error some else |
| 03:38.13 | astronaute | im not on etc sorry it is sarge on other computer |
| 03:38.18 | astronaute | etch |
| 03:38.22 | stew | astronaute: have you looked at /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/ ? see if there is a README.Debian, also check to see if there is a /etc/default/vsftpd |
| 03:38.27 | itchi | astronaute: Possible you need to set it up |
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| 03:39.03 | astronaute | Stew why readmy if it cant even start =) |
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| 03:39.12 | astronaute | i check |
| 03:39.27 | itchi | astronaute: Because you need first to read the instructions of that package |
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| 03:39.35 | mne | hi ! what is the best way to locally synchronize a directory with another one ? rsync ? |
| 03:39.38 | astronaute | no vsftpd in /etc/defaults |
| 03:39.43 | s0crates | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2964 |
| 03:39.56 | itchi | mne: You're on an way |
| 03:40.05 | itchi | mne: Try it ;-) |
| 03:40.11 | mne | itchi, hehe, ok, thx ;) |
| 03:41.01 | astronaute | itchi: its just a ftp server, its says "starting" without errors but it doesnt start |
| 03:41.04 | astronaute | nevermind |
| 03:41.41 | itchi | ricky_clarkson: I learn English/Debian great things :-) |
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| 03:41.56 | unhappy | ls |
| 03:42.05 | unhappy | hey |
| 03:42.09 | s0crates | stew: you checkin it out? pretty nutty huh? |
| 03:42.19 | itchi | astronaute: First look to the instructions of that package please, i have no crystall ball. Or i need to apt-get one, but ... :-/ |
| 03:42.35 | unhappy | can someone pls tell me again how to kill the x server and gdm ...EVERYTHING it's not working |
| 03:42.36 | stew | s0crates: you should probably dist-upgrade, it looks like you have some old packages lying around, dist-upgrading might fix some stuff for you. if that doesn't work, you can also try installing some of the packages which are going to be removed, like "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati gdm" |
| 03:43.16 | astronaute | s0crates: you want to play quake on your linux ? ^ |
| 03:43.29 | s0crates | stew: i've been wanting to go to unstable for sometime now, should i just do dist-upgrade with unstable in sources.li? |
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| 03:43.57 | s0crates | astronaute: i just want to get it to recognize my ati card correctly.. like get opengl working on it and all that |
| 03:44.02 | stew | s0crates: no, you should stick with etch. dist-upgrade doesn't necessarily mean you are switching to another dist |
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| 03:44.25 | h00t | hey |
| 03:44.41 | s0crates | does this mean i don't have to modify my kernel config to use my ati card right? =) |
| 03:44.51 | stew | s0crates: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 03:44.52 | h00t | hello can someone pls tell me how to kill the X server and GDM so i can install nvidia drivers |
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| 03:45.01 | stew | h00t: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 03:45.03 | astronaute | ive read somewhere that ati is pain on linux |
| 03:45.16 | h00t | how do i get out of gnome |
| 03:45.35 | astronaute | h00t: choose console in log off menu ? |
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| 03:45.44 | stew | astronaute: if you want 3d support with free software, ati is about as good as it gets |
| 03:45.57 | stew | h00t: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 03:46.05 | Allen_ | telinit 3 |
| 03:46.12 | stew | Allen_: ? |
| 03:46.13 | itchi | astronaute: It's ati that are pain :-/ |
| 03:46.26 | astronaute | yes |
| 03:46.32 | astronaute | thats what i say |
| 03:46.37 | stew | Allen_: that would just switch him to runlevel three, which would include starting GDM again |
| 03:46.41 | s0crates | 2.6.16-2-686 |
| 03:46.47 | s0crates | stew: 2.6.16-2-686 |
| 03:46.51 | astronaute | i have nvidia and its already a bit painfull |
| 03:46.52 | astronaute | =) |
| 03:46.56 | stew | s0crates: then no, you shouldn't need to change your kernel config, just modprobe radeon |
| 03:47.07 | h00t | stew, it just gives me options of "restart" "shutdown" and log out |
| 03:47.15 | itchi | astronaute: It's a /little/ bit better |
| 03:47.19 | s0crates | stew: just type "modprobe radeon" ? |
| 03:47.29 | stew | s0crates: yes, and add radeon to the end of /etc/modules |
| 03:47.37 | stew | h00t: what does? |
| 03:47.37 | Allen_ | if memory severs that what i used |
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| 03:47.47 | astronaute | h00t: log off and you should have a menu (in kde at least) |
| 03:47.54 | h00t | stew, the "logout menu" |
| 03:47.55 | s0crates | stew: after i install the driver right? |
| 03:48.06 | s0crates | or just like this? |
| 03:48.13 | stew | s0crates: no, radeon is already part of your kenrel, that driver is the x specific driver |
| 03:48.31 | RoAkSoAx | . |
| 03:48.39 | stew | s0crates: and you probably want to "apt-get install xorg" after you dist upgrade, it will install the ati driver and the mesa stuff for you |
| 03:48.49 | s0crates | ohok |
| 03:49.02 | s0crates | and then do I have to run modprobe radeon every time i restart? |
| 03:49.07 | itchi | RoAkSoAx: You are been here ;-) |
| 03:49.14 | astronaute | stew do you know anything about proftpd user config ? ^ |
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| 03:49.38 | itchi | astronaute: You can know more if you first begin to read the docs of it :-p |
| 03:49.46 | stew | astronaute: why do you ask? |
| 03:49.55 | stew | s0crates: not if you add it to /etc/modules |
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| 03:50.08 | s0crates | i figured that's why i added it there, just wanted to be sure.. |
| 03:50.10 | RoAkSoAx | itchi: hi!!! i updated my debian etch and got Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon! on dmesg.. and after rdoing that i rebooted and iot said that cant mount root filesystem |
| 03:50.16 | itchi | unhappy is unhappy it's looks |
| 03:50.18 | astronaute | itchi i just spend all night reading all stuff, trust me im not just trying to get answers, its 8am here in paris =) |
| 03:50.19 | s0crates | i also have ndiswrapper installed, so can i just that in there too? |
| 03:50.26 | astronaute | my third night on this |
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| 03:50.35 | stew | RoAkSoAx: yes, that is devfs which was removed as of kernel 2.6.13 |
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| 03:50.38 | kaupay | hi |
| 03:50.43 | astronaute | i even installed vsftpd but it refuse to work |
| 03:50.57 | stew | s0crates: any module that you want loaded at boot time can go into /etc/modules |
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| 03:51.05 | astronaute | so you can tell me rtfm if you want, but it wont help me in my case ^ |
| 03:51.08 | s0crates | stew: great, thanks! |
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| 03:51.16 | itchi | astronaute: I'm in Brussels an the last time i have sleep it's more that 36 ago, and i had sleep for 2 hours! |
| 03:51.23 | s0crates | stew: i just did dist-upgrade.. i already had xorg installed though.. |
| 03:51.28 | RoAkSoAx | stew: how to fix it? |
| 03:51.31 | s0crates | yeah it's installing.. |
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| 03:51.45 | itchi | s/36/36 hours |
| 03:51.47 | astronaute | itchi: you slept at least me not =) |
| 03:51.58 | stew | RoAkSoAx: edit your /etc/fstab and maybe your bootloader config |
| 03:51.58 | harshal_P | hello guys, i got a trouble with passwd |
| 03:52.01 | itchi | astronaute: Nive :-p |
| 03:52.08 | harshal_P | the user cant change the passwd |
| 03:52.13 | RoAkSoAx | stew: did that and the same thing |
| 03:52.17 | harshal_P | it gives this error.... |
| 03:52.20 | h00t | hey i'm back ... there's not "terminal" option when i log out from gnome |
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| 03:52.26 | harshal_P | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 03:52.26 | harshal_P | passwd: password unchanged |
| 03:52.35 | harshal_P | any help? |
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| 03:53.13 | stew | RoAkSoAx: what kerenl version? |
| 03:53.24 | h00t | I cannot believe this ... CAN NOBODY HELP TO GET OUT OF THE DAMN GNOME |
| 03:53.29 | stew | h00t: hit ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 03:53.32 | RoAkSoAx | stew: 2.6.8-15 |
| 03:53.35 | itchi | astronaute: Alors svp, essay de lire la documentation qui va avec chaque packet. Je n'ai jamais installer ce programme ... |
| 03:53.39 | harshal_P | anyone knows somethings about passwd |
| 03:53.41 | stew | h00t: or "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" as i've told you 3 times now |
| 03:53.44 | yawg | do i need to restart my computer to get my montior resolution changes to take effect? |
| 03:53.53 | ricky_clarkson | yawg: No, only X. |
| 03:53.58 | yawg | how do i do that? |
| 03:54.05 | ricky_clarkson | yawg: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 03:54.12 | yawg | i thought i did but the extra resolutions aren't showing up in the reszie menu |
| 03:54.13 | RoAkSoAx | stew: 2.6.8-15-1-486 |
| 03:54.38 | stew | RoAkSoAx: you likely need to create a new initrd if you are using an initrd kernel |
| 03:54.55 | ricky_clarkson | yawg: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 03:54.57 | astronaute | itchi: aucune documentation ne fait reference a ce probleme, au contraire il est indiqué que lorsque /etc/init.d/vsftpd start est terminé, le serveur doit etre operationnel , or ce n'est pas le cas =) toujours des doutes ? |
| 03:55.03 | harshal_P | ##linux |
| 03:55.05 | yawg | oo |
| 03:55.07 | yawg | that did it |
| 03:55.07 | yawg | thank you |
| 03:55.08 | itchi | yawg: The x server probably need to be restart |
| 03:55.10 | stew | astronaute: english only in here, please |
| 03:55.11 | RoAkSoAx | stew: how to do that? |
| 03:55.14 | yawg | ricky_clarkson: thank you |
| 03:55.26 | stew | RoAkSoAx: when you compiled that kernel, did you use make-kpkg? |
| 03:55.26 | kaupay | hi |
| 03:55.29 | yawg | i must remember "gdm" |
| 03:55.46 | itchi | astronaute: Comme j'ai deja signaller, je n'ai pas d'experience avec ce packet :-/ |
| 03:56.00 | astronaute | itchi: english please ! hehe |
| 03:56.02 | stew | itchi: english only please |
| 03:56.08 | astronaute | owned |
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| 03:56.15 | RoAkSoAx | stew: nope i used netinstall |
| 03:56.25 | RoAkSoAx | stew: it installed that kernel |
| 03:56.42 | stew | RoAkSoAx: what version of debian? |
| 03:56.52 | RoAkSoAx | etch |
| 03:57.28 | stew | RoAkSoAx: (then you meant 2.6.15-1-486 i'd guess), that's odd though, there should be no traces of /dev/ide (or anything devfs related) if you installed etch |
| 03:57.38 | itchi | astronaute: Have you already try to on #debian-fr ? |
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| 03:58.11 | RoAkSoAx | stew: that happened after updating... and it said that could update osme packages such as udev or something like that |
| 03:58.15 | itchi | astronaute: And you're log files. Have you check theses finaly ? |
| 03:58.32 | tonsofpcs | My crazy question for the day: Is there a way to use mingetty (or some other method) to set up a dialup server such that dialing clients are only granted access to IP to the machine on a specific port and not given a terminal or any other access? (Basically I want to force the dialup client to then run an ssh client to do anything) |
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| 03:58.56 | RoAkSoAx | stew: that happened after updating... and it said that couldNTupdate some packages such as udev or something like that |
| 03:58.57 | stew | RoAkSoAx: then you might want to upgrade, then --reinstall your kenrel package, reinstalling it would regenerate a new initrd |
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| 03:59.21 | stew | RoAkSoAx: get us the exact error with upgrading udev |
| 03:59.24 | harshal_P | anyone with passwd knowledge |
| 03:59.25 | harshal_P | ?? |
| 03:59.32 | harshal_P | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 03:59.32 | harshal_P | passwd: password unchanged |
| 03:59.34 | tonsofpcs | harshal_P: what about passwd? |
| 03:59.39 | harshal_P | that error? |
| 03:59.44 | Allen_ | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version if anybody is interest that tells you the driver |
| 03:59.46 | harshal_P | i can log in |
| 03:59.48 | h00t | stew, how can i install the kernel source tree |
| 03:59.55 | itchi | harsha: Have you play with the shadow passwords? It's an guess i try |
| 03:59.59 | k-god | h00t: aptitude install kernel-source-<version> |
| 04:00.06 | stew | h00t: why do you want it? what does "uname -r" say? |
| 04:00.08 | harshal_P | ya |
| 04:00.08 | RoAkSoAx | stew: it just said that couldnt update some packges one of them was udev and after finishing with updating the others the dmesg showed: Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon! |
| 04:00.15 | harshal_P | but i dont remember what i didt |
| 04:00.16 | stew | h00t: you likely don't wan't kernel source |
| 04:00.44 | astronaute | h00t: apt-get install linux-header (first do uname -r) |
| 04:00.44 | itchi | RoAkSoAx: Need you not an recenter kernel ? |
| 04:00.46 | stew | RoAkSoAx: did your fstab reference /proc/ide? |
| 04:00.57 | harshal_P | tonsofpcs: any clue? |
| 04:01.03 | astronaute | h00t: for nvidia only headers needed |
| 04:01.08 | sanmarcos | hahah nobody moved to oftc |
| 04:01.11 | RoAkSoAx | stew: nope |
| 04:01.12 | astronaute | h00t: apt-get install linux-headers (first do uname -r) |
| 04:01.17 | astronaute | headers sry |
| 04:01.17 | h00t | it's 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:01.31 | RoAkSoAx | itchi: ?? |
| 04:01.32 | h00t | but the damn new drivers won't compile |
| 04:01.38 | stew | h00t: aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 04:01.50 | itchi | RoAkSoAx: Have you migrated from Sarge to Etch ? |
| 04:01.52 | astronaute | h00t: so try apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:02.09 | RoAkSoAx | itchi: yeah sarge show apic errors on cpu0 cuz of interruptions of my ipw2200 |
| 04:02.12 | astronaute | or kernel maybe for me it was linux (etch) |
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| 04:02.29 | h00t | ok i'll try it and let you know how it went |
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| 04:02.48 | itchi | RoAkSoAx: Need you to put 'noapic nolapic' in the /boot/grub/menu.lst ?? |
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| 04:03.04 | rockstar_ | How can I make a kernel package with an initrd? I've never done it, but I need one so I can use encryption. |
| 04:03.11 | stew | RoAkSoAx: if you are on etch, you wont find headers for 2.6.8, you need to upgrade to etch's kernel, which cpu do you have? |
| 04:03.11 | RoAkSoAx | itchi: did that but network cars didnt work after that |
| 04:03.20 | itchi | !tell rockstar_ -about kp |
| 04:03.21 | harshal_P | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 04:03.21 | harshal_P | passwd: password unchanged |
| 04:03.23 | harshal_P | any help |
| 04:03.26 | harshal_P | is badly needed |
| 04:03.31 | stew | rockstar_: /msg dpkg kp ; when you use make-kpkg, give it the --initrd option |
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| 04:03.43 | stew | harshal_P: have you been mucking about in /etc/pam.d? |
| 04:03.44 | h00t | but hold on ... is it "linux-headers" or "kernel-headers" |
| 04:03.48 | RoAkSoAx | stew: the i get the apic errors on sarge.. with etch no prob. and i have amd athlon 64 3700 |
| 04:03.53 | itchi | harsha: Try to make an fake_user and try to change his pass |
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| 04:04.02 | harshal_P | nothing i gave root passwd to my friend |
| 04:04.10 | harshal_P | i dont know what he did |
| 04:04.15 | itchi | harshal_P: ^^ |
| 04:04.16 | stew | h00t: for 2.6.8 its kenrel-headers, for >= 2.6.12 its linux-headers, you won't hoewever find 2.6.8 in etch |
| 04:04.19 | harshal_P | :( |
| 04:04.30 | tonsofpcs | harshal_P: he probably killed the passwds |
| 04:04.43 | itchi | harshal_P: I have talk to the bad person, have you see my message ? |
| 04:04.46 | stew | harshal_P: does "getent passwd" still work? |
| 04:04.50 | harshal_P | tonsofpcs:but then how can i log in? |
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| 04:04.52 | stew | harshal_P: or "getent passwd username"? |
| 04:05.07 | itchi | jetscreamer: What mean you ? |
| 04:05.28 | harshal_P | stew: it works |
| 04:05.29 | RoAkSoAx | stew: the i get the apic errors on sarge.. with etch no prob. and i have amd athlon 64 3700 do u think that installing 32bits version on 64bits proc causing problems? |
| 04:05.32 | itchi | jetscreamer: Lesser people here ? |
| 04:05.42 | harshal_P | stew:tester@debian:~$ getent passwd tester |
| 04:05.42 | harshal_P | tester:x:1001:1001:test,,,:/home/tester:/bin/bash |
| 04:05.44 | ricky_clarkson | itchi: Lesser people indeed. |
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| 04:05.48 | rockstar_ | stew, i thought I needed a flag, just didn't know what it was |
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| 04:05.58 | harshal_P | stew: getent works |
| 04:06.01 | itchi | ricky_clarkson: ;-) |
| 04:06.06 | jetscreamer | itchi: yeah about -200 |
| 04:06.23 | astronaute | if there are some proftpd users, please can you help me to resolve this problem or tell me where to find good tutorial about this please ? : http://forums.proftpd.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1295&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= |
| 04:06.41 | stew | harshal_P: compare the contents of /etc/pam.d with a working box, or maybe try stracing it |
| 04:06.44 | itchi | jetscreamer: Is it because it have moved to OFTC ? or that thing of 2 / 3 days ago |
| 04:06.51 | harshal_P | ok |
| 04:06.55 | harshal_P | stew: ok |
| 04:06.57 | stew | RoAkSoAx: i doubt it. you can turn apic off if it gives you problems |
| 04:07.27 | jetscreamer | itchi: i was thinking oftc, but what thing about 2 or 3 days ago |
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| 04:07.46 | ricky_clarkson | When freenode got freenoded. |
| 04:07.46 | itchi | jetscreamer: We guess an milkshake of the 2 ;-) |
| 04:08.20 | vitry | I'm finding a template for fwbuilder |
| 04:08.55 | harshal_P | stew: where do one specifies the defaul passwd behaviour? |
| 04:09.05 | harshal_P | stew: even if i create new account |
| 04:09.16 | harshal_P | stew: i am not able to change the passwd |
| 04:09.18 | stew | harshal_P: /etc/pam.d/passwd |
| 04:09.32 | harshal_P | stew: ok, thanks. checking that out. |
| 04:10.04 | itchi | jetscreamer: Arg, i not find an direct link, but the hijacking of the Freenoded network |
| 04:10.08 | h00t | stew, how can i update apt-get ... is it "apt-get update" |
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| 04:10.34 | stew | h00t: that updates the list of available packages |
| 04:11.00 | astronaute | upgrade maybe ? |
| 04:11.13 | astronaute | apt-get upgrade is for updating all packages |
| 04:11.38 | itchi | jetscreamer: http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot?m=6232 |
| 04:11.44 | h00t | what's the diff upgrade & update |
| 04:11.58 | Allen_ | thanks guys |
| 04:12.13 | astronaute | h00t: apt-get update : only updates list of packages from your sources.list |
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| 04:12.37 | itchi | jetscreamer: Pay also attention to the /topic here ^^ |
| 04:12.49 | astronaute | h00t: apt-get upgrade : updates all available packages installed on your system |
| 04:12.51 | harshal_P | stew: password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 |
| 04:12.57 | harshal_P | stew: it seems ok |
| 04:13.11 | harshal_P | stew: that /etc/pam.d |
| 04:13.21 | itchi | jetscreamer: It's recomended to change your pass here |
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| 04:14.43 | stew | harshal_P: is /usr/bin/passwd still suid root? |
| 04:14.46 | thevic | when i look in the kde menu editor (at oowriter, for example) it has .... /usr/bin/oowriter %U what does the %U mean? |
| 04:15.11 | harshal_P | stew: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28480 2006-06-10 19:09 /usr/bin/passwd |
| 04:15.20 | stew | harshal_P: yeah, that's the problem |
| 04:15.43 | harshal_P | stew: didnt get you? |
| 04:16.18 | stew | harshal_P: chmod 4755 /usr/bin/passwd |
| 04:16.29 | harshal_P | ok |
| 04:16.38 | harshal_P | stew:4755? |
| 04:16.43 | stew | harshal_P: correct |
| 04:17.35 | harshal_P | stew: it worked!!!!! |
| 04:17.51 | harshal_P | stew: can please explain what was the problem? |
| 04:18.17 | stew | harshal_P: passwd needs root priveleges to run, passwd had the suid bit removed, read the url in /msg dpkg Permissions |
| 04:19.21 | harshal_P | stew: thanks a lot man. checking that url |
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| 04:25.38 | jetscreamer | much longer pauses, nobody typing, also |
| 04:25.46 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 04:26.00 | itchi | jetscreamer: That's right |
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| 04:27.01 | itchi | jetscreamer: It's because now we drink more cofee, like it's coffee pause now ;-) |
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| 04:28.21 | PseudoPlacebo | How do I install Gnome on Debian? su; apt-get install gnome |
| 04:28.22 | PseudoPlacebo | ? |
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| 04:28.44 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Look to /msg dpkg gnome |
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| 04:29.37 | h00t | stew, .... hey ... THANK GOD after 2 weeks it finally works .. THANX GUYS |
| 04:29.58 | h00t | how do i update xserver now |
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| 04:30.43 | zaszz | when is etch supposed to be promoted to stable |
| 04:30.52 | itchi | !coffee stew |
| 04:30.56 | itchi | stew: :-p |
| 04:30.58 | h00t | how can i update xserver |
| 04:31.19 | itchi | h00t: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 04:31.30 | yawg | sound doesn't work on my system |
| 04:31.31 | zaszz | or better yet: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 04:31.47 | yawg | the volume bar on the desktop always resets to zero |
| 04:31.49 | h00t | no .. but i need to reconfigure it |
| 04:31.57 | h00t | since i install the nvidia driver |
| 04:32.17 | itchi | zaszz: Right, if the first fail, the soconde not goes |
| 04:32.23 | jetscreamer | !tell h00t -about drxx |
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| 04:32.53 | itchi | yawg: I think you need to store the volume |
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| 04:33.31 | itchi | yawg: Is it completely not working or just the volume that are always at the minimum ? |
| 04:33.42 | yawg | "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found" |
| 04:33.49 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 04:33.49 | dpkg | alsa-bork is, like, modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui, or apt-get install alsa-base |
| 04:34.14 | jetscreamer | there are mix modules also iirc, but i can't say 'install this' |
| 04:34.24 | jetscreamer | i know you can fix it kinda easy though |
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| 04:34.50 | itchi | !alsa-checklist |
| 04:34.51 | dpkg | methinks alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 04:35.30 | itchi | jetscreamer: We make a bit more traffice ;-) |
| 04:36.18 | PseudoPlacebo | Hi, I tried install X using "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" and it says that "Package Discover is not available" and "Package discover has no installation candidate" |
| 04:36.37 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Sarge ? |
| 04:36.41 | PseudoPlacebo | Aye. |
| 04:37.11 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: You're missing some sources.list ? |
| 04:37.20 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: Am I? How do I fix it? |
| 04:37.46 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: apt-setup |
| 04:38.01 | PseudoPlacebo | "command not found" |
| 04:38.02 | PseudoPlacebo | =| |
| 04:38.09 | jetscreamer | PseudoPlacebo: discover has been deprecated for a while |
| 04:38.18 | jetscreamer | so is apt-setup |
| 04:38.21 | jetscreamer | try apt-spy |
| 04:38.23 | PseudoPlacebo | jetscreamer: It's what the bot told me. |
| 04:38.24 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: oeps, it's somethings similar :-/ |
| 04:38.37 | PseudoPlacebo | apt-spy "command not found" |
| 04:38.38 | PseudoPlacebo | =| |
| 04:38.47 | jetscreamer | you have to install apt-spy |
| 04:38.55 | PseudoPlacebo | apt-get install apt-spy? |
| 04:38.58 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 04:39.06 | jetscreamer | w/o the ? :) |
| 04:39.11 | PseudoPlacebo | "Couldn't find package apt-spy" |
| 04:39.12 | PseudoPlacebo | =[ |
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| 04:39.26 | jetscreamer | fix the sources? |
| 04:39.29 | itchi | !sources.list |
| 04:39.29 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
| 04:39.36 | itchi | ^^ Look to, it's bad :-( |
| 04:39.44 | PseudoPlacebo | "deb" command not found |
| 04:39.48 | jetscreamer | woody |
| 04:39.55 | itchi | There's been noted apt-setup |
| 04:40.19 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/debian_files/sources.list <--template, change sid to something |
| 04:40.33 | PseudoPlacebo | I think I'll just reinstall? |
| 04:40.55 | jetscreamer | why bother |
| 04:40.57 | rockstar_ | PseudoPlacebo, you mean dpkg? |
| 04:41.05 | PseudoPlacebo | Because it takes like 3 seconds. |
| 04:41.05 | itchi | hhhmm it's the base-config that are missing on hours system here |
| 04:41.07 | PseudoPlacebo | =| |
| 04:41.07 | jetscreamer | even though it's trivial to reinstall |
| 04:41.15 | jetscreamer | you can do base-config |
| 04:41.23 | PseudoPlacebo | I mean just reinstall the OS. =| |
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| 04:41.40 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Install base-config ?? |
| 04:41.46 | h00t | can someone tell me how can i test if my nvidia driver is working now |
| 04:42.23 | PseudoPlacebo | Package base-config has no installation candidate. |
| 04:42.41 | itchi | h00t: Look to fglrxinfo or try a game |
| 04:42.58 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Moment |
| 04:43.11 | yawg | awesome |
| 04:43.13 | yawg | it's working! |
| 04:43.19 | h00t | itchi, do i have to reboot ... i just dpkg-reconfigure'd |
| 04:43.19 | PseudoPlacebo | Congrats. |
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| 04:43.45 | jetscreamer | you have to install glxinfo and glxgears it's in mesa-utils i think |
| 04:44.00 | jetscreamer | you would need to restart the xserver |
| 04:44.06 | jetscreamer | not the computer |
| 04:44.16 | h00t | i don't know who to just do that |
| 04:44.19 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/?dm restart if you use a dm |
| 04:44.33 | jetscreamer | otherwise if you use startx just log out and back in |
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| 04:45.28 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Here's my mirrors list http://pastebin.ca/73705 |
| 04:45.42 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: I think I'm gonna reinstall Debian real quick. |
| 04:45.54 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Remove non-free and contrib |
| 04:46.01 | jetscreamer | (if you want) |
| 04:46.03 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: YOU are crazy :-p |
| 04:46.08 | PseudoPlacebo | Eh. |
| 04:46.11 | PseudoPlacebo | It takes like 5 minutes. |
| 04:46.29 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: If you want do it |
| 04:46.31 | jetscreamer | more like 30 but it's nothing like <insert that other os here> |
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| 04:46.56 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 04:46.56 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 04:46.59 | jetscreamer | if that helps |
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| 04:47.06 | jetscreamer | the second portion |
| 04:47.21 | PseudoPlacebo | =< |
| 04:47.21 | jetscreamer | the first is for reinstalling in the existing installation |
| 04:48.02 | PseudoPlacebo | Thank you very much for the help so far, by the way. |
| 04:48.04 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Game over :-p |
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| 04:48.21 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Try to fix, that learn you the most things |
| 04:48.36 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: But I recall something shmucking up when I was installing. |
| 04:48.43 | PseudoPlacebo | And this isn't the time when I want to learn. |
| 04:48.54 | PseudoPlacebo | I wanted to learn about 9 hours ago. |
| 04:49.00 | PseudoPlacebo | When I started to put Linux on this computer. |
| 04:49.09 | PseudoPlacebo | Now I just want it to be there. Now. With minimal trouble. |
| 04:49.30 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Reinstall then, it's you're choise |
| 04:49.47 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi, I am. 20% through, too. =| |
| 04:49.59 | PseudoPlacebo | I dunno. |
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| 04:50.24 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: So you're first install was 9 hours ago ? |
| 04:50.33 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: It's a long troubling story. |
| 04:50.46 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: No many install experience ? |
| 04:50.55 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: Oh, I have install experience. |
| 04:51.04 | PseudoPlacebo | It's just this computer doesn't like Grub. |
| 04:51.09 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: install or reinstall :-p |
| 04:51.11 | PseudoPlacebo | So I had to find out that it didn't like grub. |
| 04:51.17 | PseudoPlacebo | And then I had to try and fix it. |
| 04:51.28 | PseudoPlacebo | And then I had to fix my partitions. |
| 04:51.43 | PseudoPlacebo | It was lots of fun. |
| 04:51.44 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Yeah, make backups :-/ |
| 04:51.49 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: Nothing important on. |
| 04:51.58 | PseudoPlacebo | All my important shit is on THIS computer. |
| 04:52.03 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Your on the nicest/best/powerfulles distro :-) |
| 04:52.09 | itchi | oela |
| 04:52.13 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: Yeah, I <3 Debian |
| 04:52.32 | PseudoPlacebo | I started with Ubuntu. |
| 04:52.47 | [Cadet] | Anybody know what is up with gnome displaying mount points on the desktop? It doesn't show mounts which were created during the install but if I create a new partition and mount it they show up on the desktop. |
| 04:52.58 | [Cadet] | Etch fyi |
| 04:53.09 | PseudoPlacebo | Figured out my computer didn't like Grub, and the new stupid Ubuntu installer doesn't let me choose Lilo. |
| 04:53.15 | PseudoPlacebo | So I decided to try out Debian. |
| 04:53.43 | PseudoPlacebo | Actually the story is longer than that but I'm tired. |
| 04:53.46 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: You need to install grub in < 1024 sectors |
| 04:53.56 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: This computer doesnt' |
| 04:54.00 | PseudoPlacebo | Doesn't like grub. |
| 04:54.04 | PseudoPlacebo | In any shape or form. |
| 04:54.13 | PseudoPlacebo | Lilo works fine. The Windows bootloader works fine. |
| 04:54.14 | PseudoPlacebo | =| |
| 04:54.35 | PseudoPlacebo | I mean, like, I tried several different partition schemes on several distros and OSes. |
| 04:54.39 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: That make no diff, grub like everyone |
| 04:54.47 | PseudoPlacebo | I formatted the drives a few times. |
| 04:54.53 | PseudoPlacebo | itchi: Make no mistake. |
| 04:54.56 | PseudoPlacebo | I'm a grub fan. |
| 04:54.59 | PseudoPlacebo | It just didn't work. |
| 04:55.04 | PseudoPlacebo | And Lilo did. |
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| 04:55.11 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: If you're are sure |
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| 04:56.08 | itchi | Pizza is also right :-) |
| 04:56.18 | PseudoPlacebo | Hmm. |
| 04:56.25 | PseudoPlacebo | I like Chinese food. |
| 04:56.43 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Food are good :-) we need it |
| 04:56.52 | PseudoPlacebo | Hehehe. |
| 04:56.57 | PseudoPlacebo | That's true. |
| 04:57.00 | PseudoPlacebo | I <3 food. |
| 04:57.12 | PseudoPlacebo | I'm not a fattie. |
| 04:57.14 | PseudoPlacebo | But food rocks. |
| 04:57.22 | PseudoPlacebo | Plus I'm starting to eat a lot more. |
| 04:57.29 | PseudoPlacebo | Adolescence and what have you. |
| 04:57.58 | itchi | !eat |
| 04:58.01 | itchi | hehe |
| 04:58.04 | PseudoPlacebo | Hahaha. |
| 04:58.19 | PseudoPlacebo | Te reinstall is working fine so far. |
| 04:58.21 | PseudoPlacebo | Knock on wood. |
| 04:58.55 | PseudoPlacebo | I need to be at work in 7 hours. |
| 04:58.56 | PseudoPlacebo | =| |
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| 04:59.16 | itchi | !sleep |
| 04:59.16 | dpkg | from memory, sleep is For wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... fsck: warning: /dev/brain has gone countless hours without being checked. Check forced. zZZzzzz... *zonk* |
| 04:59.18 | itchi | :-p |
| 04:59.35 | PseudoPlacebo | I'm pretty well caffeinated. |
| 04:59.40 | PseudoPlacebo | I'm just saying. |
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| 04:59.45 | PseudoPlacebo | Work is closer than it isn't. |
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| 05:00.01 | s0crates | are there any howtos on how to get dual monitors working in xorg? |
| 05:01.20 | PseudoPlacebo | Watching Debian fetch the packages is fun and all. |
| 05:01.28 | PseudoPlacebo | But I do in fact, need sleep. |
| 05:01.31 | h00t | hey guys i'm back... even thought the installation went fine when i restarted gdm w/ nvidia server instead of nv it just blinked couple of times (i could see the nvidia logo) and went out .. can one pllllease soemone help me |
| 05:01.33 | itchi | s0crates: Look to the xinerama howto on tldp |
| 05:01.57 | s0crates | ok thanks |
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| 05:02.13 | s0crates | also, i just kinda want to use one of the two monitors.. i'm on a laptop though |
| 05:02.20 | itchi | h00t: The module been loaded ? |
| 05:02.38 | PseudoPlacebo | Goodnight, ya'll. |
| 05:03.07 | itchi | PseudoPlacebo: Good morning :-p |
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| 05:03.16 | PseudoPlacebo | =[ |
| 05:03.17 | itchi | hehe |
| 05:03.21 | PseudoPlacebo | You're gonna make me sad. |
| 05:03.28 | itchi | 07:00 AM here |
| 05:03.31 | PseudoPlacebo | Tommorow is fucking staff training. |
| 05:03.34 | PseudoPlacebo | I mean. |
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| 05:03.36 | PseudoPlacebo | Today. |
| 05:03.38 | itchi | arg |
| 05:03.40 | PseudoPlacebo | When I wake up in six hours. |
| 05:03.51 | PseudoPlacebo | Oh well. |
| 05:03.53 | h00t | i don't know what you are talking about .. i used nvidia installer ... i think it needed to compile the module so i had to install kernel-headers and then the nvidia installer went fine... then i dpkg-reconfigred ... WTF |
| 05:04.19 | PseudoPlacebo | Quick question. |
| 05:04.21 | h00t | itchi, where ar eyou |
| 05:04.28 | itchi | h00t: Look if the modules are loaded with 'lsmod | less |
| 05:04.30 | PseudoPlacebo | When Debian automagically installs the "desktop" packages. |
| 05:04.37 | PseudoPlacebo | Does it install KDE or Gnome? |
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| 05:04.53 | itchi | h00t: I have take hot coffee lol, im near the 48 hours now :-/ |
| 05:04.56 | h00t | what should be the name of the molude |
| 05:05.07 | itchi | h00t: Or i go to :-) |
| 05:05.35 | itchi | h00t: nvidia or somethings similar ?? |
| 05:06.04 | h00t | i see a "nvidia" module ... it's the biggest |
| 05:06.09 | PseudoPlacebo | Anyone? |
| 05:06.11 | h00t | what can be wrong |
| 05:06.12 | itchi | !nvidia |
| 05:06.19 | itchi | !test |
| 05:06.33 | itchi | He is dead or he ignore me again :-/ |
| 05:06.51 | h00t | how the hell can you stand working on this OS ... nothing works ... but no error messages |
| 05:06.59 | h00t | it just blinks |
| 05:07.10 | h00t | so i really have to install suse |
| 05:07.23 | amphi | h00t: what blinks? |
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| 05:07.43 | itchi | h00t: Tell to that crap of nvidia or ATI |
| 05:07.47 | h00t | my monitor blinks and i can see Nvidia logo for like a .5 second adn then nothing |
| 05:07.50 | h00t | aned |
| 05:08.05 | amphi | h00t: ask the vendor for support ;) |
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| 05:08.39 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 05:08.39 | dpkg | No, itchi, you're not online any more. |
| 05:08.42 | h00t | you know what ... FUCK MICROSOFT AND THEIR FUCKING GAMES ... |
| 05:08.43 | itchi | h00t: To begin. Look to /var/log/xfree or xorg |
| 05:08.52 | itchi | I love you dpkg |
| 05:09.24 | h00t | dude are you serious... i have 6 months exp w/ linux and you want me to dissect logs... |
| 05:09.28 | itchi | h00t: Games are many better here and free/open/... |
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| 05:09.51 | itchi | h00t: Post you're log on pastebin if you are to lazy, i check it |
| 05:10.36 | h00t | i'm not lazy but i know i won't understand it |
| 05:10.58 | itchi | h00t: I go to gide you, paste it on an paster and we see |
| 05:11.09 | jjazz | PseudoPlacebo: gnome |
| 05:11.25 | jjazz | PseudoPlacebo: IIRC |
| 05:12.31 | h00t | what's the name of the channel for pasting |
| 05:12.47 | dondelelcaro | h00t: #flood or use a paster bot. |
| 05:13.55 | itchi | h00t: I not know if you already have take a look on '/msg dpkg nvidia' and '/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner' |
| 05:14.14 | itchi | h00t: But paste it there ^ i follow with you |
| 05:14.21 | h00t | itchi, so it's there ..pls look |
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| 05:14.51 | itchi | h00t: Sorry i was not on #flood :-( |
| 05:15.04 | itchi | h00t: Now im been there ;-) |
| 05:15.36 | itchi | h00t: I drink my coffee at the same time. hehe |
| 05:16.14 | itchi | h00t: I guess it's an long file ?? Paste it then on a paster or someone are going to kill you if it's to long :-p |
| 05:16.44 | itchi | h00t: Ok #floooodiing |
| 05:17.31 | itchi | h00t: For the next time, if that file are long -> paster ;-) Now you know |
| 05:17.32 | h00t | what do you mean .. i pasted it on flood .. what is paster |
| 05:17.45 | h00t | what is paster |
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| 05:18.05 | itchi | !tell h00t -about paster |
| 05:18.49 | itchi | h00t: Paste you're whole /var/log/xfree or xorg on the web an paste the link here. On #flood it's not compleet it's looks |
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| 05:19.00 | streuner | itchi: are you in vacation? |
| 05:19.12 | itchi | streuner: It's looks like hehehe |
| 05:19.29 | h00t | i pasted it on web |
| 05:19.43 | itchi | streuner: No i need a job |
| 05:19.48 | streuner | ic |
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| 05:19.56 | h00t | itchi .. do you see it |
| 05:20.13 | h00t | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2965 |
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| 05:21.18 | itchi | h00t: The module are not loaded it's looks |
| 05:21.37 | itchi | h00t: Try 'lsmod | nvidia' |
| 05:21.47 | itchi | h00t: Try 'lsmod | glx' |
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| 05:22.17 | itchi | (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) |
| 05:22.34 | itchi | Which module is that 'glx' ? |
| 05:22.48 | streuner | itchi: non-free |
| 05:22.52 | h00t | ok let me see |
| 05:22.59 | streuner | its only in package nvidia-glx |
| 05:23.11 | streuner | nv - the free one doesn't have glx... |
| 05:23.32 | itchi | h00t: You need to follow what dpkg told you |
| 05:24.12 | h00t | here's the problem ... i have geforce 2 which needs legacy drivers... but legacy support is only in 'testin' i have stable |
| 05:24.22 | itchi | h00t: '/msg dpkg nvidia' and '/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner' |
| 05:24.28 | h00t | so i had to install from the nvdia web site |
| 05:24.44 | itchi | h00t: No, it's in non-free like streuner told you |
| 05:24.57 | itchi | or told my, yes |
| 05:24.57 | h00t | what is in "non-free" |
| 05:25.03 | streuner | !non-free |
| 05:25.03 | dpkg | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
| 05:25.35 | h00t | i understand that but there are 2 kinds of nvidia drivers ... they split the tree |
| 05:25.41 | itchi | h00t: Say if you not understand what or ho |
| 05:25.52 | itchi | h00t: I take you for an genius :-) |
| 05:27.10 | itchi | h00t: The free one 'nv' are without 3D. You want 3D so you need that other |
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| 05:27.59 | h00t | i know that but there are 2 kinds of non-free drivers ... current and legacy |
| 05:28.24 | Halleck | where can I configure what initd loads on startup? I want it to get rid of xdm and add svnserve. |
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| 05:28.55 | itchi | h00t: I not really know the diffs of it :-/ I'm not many experienced with it. Just enought i hope to set it up |
| 05:29.22 | itchi | h00t: I have an ATI 9600 here |
| 05:29.55 | itchi | h00t: I have another GX440 that i re need to setup, but like im lazy :-) and not want to move my ass :-) |
| 05:30.43 | h00t | ... haha |
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| 05:31.03 | itchi | h00t: Understand you the steps you need to follow with dpkg? It's easy to do |
| 05:31.19 | h00t | any way ... thank you for your help but i have enough aggravation for today |
| 05:31.37 | h00t | itchi, i'm telling you .. you cannot do it w/ "one-liner" |
| 05:31.49 | itchi | h00t: I not understand aggravation |
| 05:32.06 | h00t | bullshit |
| 05:32.10 | h00t | anger |
| 05:32.14 | itchi | h00t: You have forget that 'non-free' |
| 05:32.14 | h00t | frustration |
| 05:32.30 | h00t | i have non free in my sources |
| 05:32.47 | itchi | h00t: You understand what you need to do with your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 05:33.18 | itchi | bwarg |
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| 05:35.20 | jbrouhard | Hey guys.. anyone have a link to a how-to showing me how to span 2 40GB ATA Hard drives together for 80G of drive space ? |
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| 05:37.30 | itchi | jbrouhard: I find this site nice, look to if you get your way with it http://www.debian-administration.org/tag |
| 05:38.00 | jbrouhard | Okies |
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| 05:39.36 | stew | jbrouhard: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
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| 05:41.06 | thirst | greetings! |
| 05:41.14 | thirst | i want some help in configuring a tun/tap device |
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| 05:43.24 | thirst | here is the setting in my interfaces file and also the error messages I get .. http://rafb.net/paste/results/LNtZG935.html |
| 05:43.26 | thirst | please help. ! |
| 05:45.08 | stew | thirst: that seems to say that you don't have an eth1, does eth1 show up when you run "ifconfig -a"? |
| 05:45.14 | stew | thirst: perhaps you need to modprobe the driver for eth1? |
| 05:45.22 | itchi | thirst: The tun module loaded ? |
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| 05:46.17 | thirst | stew: no i have only one network card configured as eth0 |
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| 05:46.38 | thirst | itchi: yes.. tun module is loaded as i can see by lsmod |
| 05:47.14 | thirst | stew: i dont know much about tun.. is tun configured by setting it as an emulated eth1 device ? |
| 05:48.55 | stew | thirst: i don't know either. do you know what command you would issue from the command line to create the device? |
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| 05:49.48 | thirst | the device is created and present in /dev/net/tun using "mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200" |
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| 05:50.47 | thirst | but when I do a "ifconfig tun0 10.0.0.1 up", i get this error "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" |
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| 05:52.56 | Halleck | does debian have a tool to configure init? |
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| 05:54.05 | stew | Halleck: rcconf for simple enable/disable of init scripts ; update-rc.d for full control over runlevels and startup order |
| 05:54.15 | Halleck | thanks |
| 05:54.19 | jetscreamer | !tun |
| 05:54.19 | dpkg | well, tun is sudo mkdir /dev/net && sudo mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200 |
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| 05:54.56 | jetscreamer | thirst: if this is udev i think you need an udev rule but i don't know |
| 05:55.08 | thirst | jetscreamer: ok |
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| 05:55.58 | jetscreamer | i've been there done that with a different device though. so i removed udev. i'm lazy. |
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| 05:56.27 | itchi | jetscreamer: Lazy guy :-p |
| 05:56.55 | jetscreamer | err efficient |
| 05:56.58 | itchi | jetscreamer: It's looks like we become lazy :-) |
| 05:57.13 | roby | For amd64, etch, seems lotsa packages missing from mirrors... is this a problem across most mirrors? Some wrong settings I have? or? |
| 05:58.17 | enyc | hrrm |
| 05:58.17 | jetscreamer | i'm pretty sure it's not * |
| 05:58.18 | enyc | maybe awd64 versions not built for all those programs.... |
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| 05:58.18 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 05:58.36 | roby | i see... |
| 05:58.46 | roby | would the case be similar in stable? |
| 05:58.52 | enyc | i thought most things were just built for all the architectures and only sewo things nood special attention an special attention per-architecture ? |
| 05:58.53 | itchi | Mean that im reconised by nickserv? -> services. sets mode +e itchi |
| 05:59.02 | jetscreamer | the 64bit port isn't released yet i don't think |
| 05:59.08 | enyc | iirc sarge not fermally support amd64..... |
| 05:59.32 | jetscreamer | however there is a #debian-amd64 or something |
| 05:59.33 | roby | kill me... bought the cpu for nothing :) |
| 05:59.41 | roby | really? i'll check |
| 05:59.51 | jetscreamer | i'm not positive about the name |
| 05:59.57 | jetscreamer | but there is a channel |
| 06:00.01 | jetscreamer | !amd64 |
| 06:00.02 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 06:00.06 | itchi | roby: Play with cpuburn and ^^ it's not for nothing :-) |
| 06:00.34 | jetscreamer | you can run the 32bit stuff though i hear |
| 06:00.38 | amphi | itchi: you are "identified to services" |
| 06:00.53 | thirst | any docs on tun setup etc that i can readup.. |
| 06:01.05 | enyc | this is interesting as ubuntu-(5.10 and 6.06), at least has amd64 achitecture... and uses debian base/sources heavily......... and since they make all their patches available to debian this should help debian developers with amd64 support....... |
| 06:01.07 | itchi | amphi: aah that's good news :-) like i got some strange troubles with nickserv |
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| 06:01.56 | enyc | but i wonder what organizational/political/proctical reasons mean debian has no formal 64bit port released yet |
| 06:02.09 | enyc | (seemingly) |
| 06:02.12 | jetscreamer | thirst: if you have udev installed you 'will' need to use udev to create the nodes i'm pretty sure. so got udev? |
| 06:02.32 | stew | enyc: amd64 was nowhere close to being ready when sarge released. when etch releases it will fully support amd64, amd64 is now an officially supported arch in debian |
| 06:02.34 | jetscreamer | enyc: they are very cautious about slapping the stable sticker on a release |
| 06:02.44 | amphi | itchi: yeah, it acted the bollocks with me to a bit, after the 'incident' |
| 06:03.00 | enyc | stew: kk excellent ;-) |
| 06:03.03 | thirst | jetscreamer: yeah.. i got udev.. :) |
| 06:03.26 | enyc | jetscreamer: I see I see, much more cautios than ubuntu... I see ok |
| 06:03.40 | jetscreamer | thirst: there's docs on that in /usr/share/doc/udev or so... it 'may' be somewhere else i forget |
| 06:03.47 | itchi | amphi: But i think i get some bonus. Some troubles with the network here on my comp :-/ |
| 06:03.51 | jetscreamer | enyc: yeah very. |
| 06:03.54 | enyc | hence debian releases (when they eventually come out) are ronowned for stability etc. |
| 06:03.54 | jetscreamer | extremely |
| 06:04.43 | jetscreamer | etch is basically pretty stable though. (so is sid imo but you didn't read that from me) but sometimes they like to shake it up i guess. |
| 06:04.45 | enyc | debian supports a lot of 'older' architectures too... |
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| 06:05.15 | enyc | shakeups are needed for fundamental changes/upgrades etc. |
| 06:05.25 | stew | enyc: with the etch release, many of these older arches will get "second class citizen" status, and won't necessarily hold up the release |
| 06:05.30 | foo | hm, I need to block an IP on my linux router so it can't get out to the Internet. I tried iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.249/24 -d 0/0 -i eth1 -j DROP but it doesn't appear to work. Any ideas? |
| 06:05.55 | enyc | stew: indeed... which ahas become necessary |
| 06:06.16 | roby | foo: if you append to the input chain, then it will append to the end i believe |
| 06:06.27 | roby | so there may be a rule preceeding it that is accepting |
| 06:06.32 | enyc | foo: INPUT is only for connection-/packets destined FOR the 'router' (in your case) itself |
| 06:06.43 | enyc | foo: you need to change the FORWARD not INPUT iirc |
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| 06:06.49 | foo | hm |
| 06:07.15 | roby | enyc: good point |
| 06:07.15 | enyc | foo: this is uslike ipchains where forwarded stupp traverses input and forward and output |
| 06:07.41 | stew | foo: 192.168.0.249/24 is an odd looking network, did you realize that blocks 256 different ip addresses? |
| 06:08.34 | stew | foo: are you sure that eth1 is the interface on which packets arrive to the router from 192.168.0.249? |
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| 06:10.03 | enyc | iptables -i FORMARD -s 192.168.0.249 -j DROP would do to simply drop and traffic being forwarded threugh the box from 192.168.0.249 iirc |
| 06:10.27 | stew | s/M/W/ :P |
| 06:10.40 | enyc | ??? s\/W\/W\/ |
| 06:10.41 | foo | nope, iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249/24 -d 0/0 -i eth1 -j DROP does not appear to be working. hmm. |
| 06:10.42 | enyc | ??? |
| 06:11.04 | enyc | foo: thats adding on the end of the forward chain which may not be what you watn... olse... |
| 06:11.17 | enyc | -s 192.168.0.249/24 is a bit meaningless... |
| 06:11.19 | foo | stew: yes |
| 06:11.20 | enyc | erm well |
| 06:11.29 | foo | oh |
| 06:11.30 | foo | hm |
| 06:11.35 | enyc | that is the same as 192.168.0.0/24 (i.e. 192.168.0.*) |
| 06:11.58 | stew | foo: put the output of "route -n ; iptables -L -n" into a pastebin |
| 06:12.07 | enyc | if you just want to block 192.168.0.249 itself.... block 192.168.0.249 not with /24 ;-) |
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| 06:15.32 | zx8 | Join the 9/11 truth community at http://www.truthbox.org/ |
| 06:15.41 | tjousk | no |
| 06:15.41 | zinx | don't spam |
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| 06:16.09 | foo | stew: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/stew.txt |
| 06:16.49 | itchi | stew: What's going ? Interesting ^ |
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| 06:17.11 | stew | foo: the very first rule in the FORWARD chain accepts it so your DROP rule will never get a chance since its farther down in the chain |
| 06:17.28 | foo | hm, I see. |
| 06:17.37 | foo | I have the ipkungfu firewall. hmm. /me scratches head. |
| 06:17.41 | foo | heh, I should just shut off eth1. |
| 06:18.07 | itchi | stew: Is that also an crap link ? |
| 06:18.07 | enyc | foo erm |
| 06:18.21 | enyc | foo you can -i arathor that -a your rule... |
| 06:18.21 | stew | itchi: huh? |
| 06:18.26 | enyc | foo (insert at the top) |
| 06:18.37 | enyc | rather than add on the bottom |
| 06:18.41 | foo | ah |
| 06:18.41 | itchi | stew: The user zx8 ? |
| 06:19.06 | stew | itchi: he was off-topic |
| 06:19.06 | itchi | stew: Oh yea, i understand the $date |
| 06:19.41 | foo | enyc: iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -d 0/0 -i eth1 -j DROP -a ? |
| 06:19.51 | itchi | stew: I'm European, so it take a bit more time :-/ |
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| 06:20.06 | streuner | hehe |
| 06:20.15 | enyc | foo no... you habe -A |
| 06:20.15 | stew | foo: -A appends to the end, you want -I 0 to insert at the top |
| 06:20.18 | enyc | foo you want -I |
| 06:20.33 | enyc | is you put the rule atn the top it will be matched first |
| 06:20.40 | streuner | only about 40 percent are from america here ... :-) |
| 06:20.56 | foo | ah |
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| 06:21.16 | itchi | streuner: That already many not ? |
| 06:21.34 | itchi | streuner: A bit lesser that the helft |
| 06:22.18 | streuner | itchi: whois vireo.org |
| 06:22.42 | stew | huh |
| 06:23.41 | streuner | well, he said "it took longer for europeans" :-) |
| 06:23.59 | stew | streuner: i'm not european, just my registrar |
| 06:24.08 | streuner | oh |
| 06:24.18 | stew | Registrant Country:US |
| 06:24.20 | itchi | hehe |
| 06:24.37 | itchi | And europeans goin to ... hehe |
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| 06:30.41 | golly | what port does apt-get us? |
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| 06:31.46 | mahyar | how do i get my aterm to just have a simple one pixel frame like in this screenshot: |
| 06:31.56 | mahyar | http://www.cslab.uky.edu/~ctbull2/images/2006-06-06-dirty.png |
| 06:33.17 | foo | enyc: o# iptables -I 0 -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -d 0/0 -i eth1 -j DROP |
| 06:33.17 | foo | iptables v1.2.11: Can't use -A with -I |
| 06:33.23 | foo | enyc: hmm. Any ideas on that one? |
| 06:34.13 | dondelelcaro | mahyar: that's a function of your window manager, not aterm |
| 06:34.18 | enyc | -no -A at all |
| 06:34.32 | dondelelcaro | FE, it's trivial to do using ion3. |
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| 06:34.34 | linolium | hey |
| 06:34.37 | enyc | just 'iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -j DROP will do imho |
| 06:34.48 | enyc | "iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -j DROP" that is |
| 06:35.13 | foo | Hm, yup. I think that worked. |
| 06:35.26 | linolium | is it possible to get apache running as the user directory it is accessing? this way, when i go to http://mydomain/~bababa/ and upload a file, it will be saved with the chown of bababa:bababa and not www-data:www-data |
| 06:35.26 | foo | Now, how do I allow that? |
| 06:35.37 | enyc | you will still be able to talk between the router-box and 192.168.0.249 |
| 06:35.45 | foo | -j ACCEPT |
| 06:35.45 | enyc | ??allow that?? |
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| 06:35.49 | foo | Right? |
| 06:35.52 | enyc | ?eh? |
| 06:35.55 | enyc | explain |
| 06:35.58 | itchi | linolium: Make an public_html dir in your home |
| 06:35.59 | enyc | what is an ''allow that'' ? |
| 06:36.01 | foo | enyc: Right, just not ping out. |
| 06:36.10 | linolium | itchi: I have one |
| 06:36.11 | foo | enyc: Excuse my vagueness. I mean, allow that IP to talk to the Internet. |
| 06:36.19 | enyc | foo: or talk through the box (except by and proxy gateways you have etc.) |
| 06:36.23 | enyc | foo aah well |
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| 06:36.30 | foo | iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -j ACCEPT does it |
| 06:36.36 | itchi | linolium: bababa are your username as example ? |
| 06:36.37 | enyc | foo: in that casse you will want to DELETE the rule you have added.... |
| 06:36.41 | linolium | itchi: yes |
| 06:36.45 | enyc | foo: rather than inserting ANOTHER rule |
| 06:36.56 | itchi | linolium: It should work, not ? |
| 06:37.01 | foo | enyc: ah, how do I delete it? |
| 06:37.06 | dondelelcaro | linolium: you mean using SEND? |
| 06:37.07 | enyc | foo: iptables -D FORWARD -s 192.168.0.249 -j DROP will delete the previous rule |
| 06:37.12 | enyc | foo: I think |
| 06:37.24 | enyc | foo: -I inserts at the top... -D deletes whatever matches |
| 06:37.38 | dondelelcaro | linolium: or do you mean using a cgi to upload the files? |
| 06:37.38 | itchi | linolium: You have /home/bababa/public_html/ ? |
| 06:37.40 | linolium | itchi, dondelelcaro: if I have a php script and I upload a file to the server it will be saved by apache with permissions www-data:www-data, and then the user cannot access these files |
| 06:37.45 | enyc | foo: you could keep adding ACCEPT and RLOP rules befor each other but thats silly |
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| 06:38.01 | dondelelcaro | linolium: you need to use suexec with php4-cgi if you want that. |
| 06:38.03 | foo | ah, thanks. |
| 06:38.13 | itchi | linolium: Not in the home |
| 06:38.20 | foo | enyc: Thanks! I got it. |
| 06:38.32 | foo | enyc: Yeah, that is silly. |
| 06:38.39 | itchi | bbbrr, computer update. hangs a bit |
| 06:38.40 | linolium | dondelelcaro: I can only get it working with php? |
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| 06:38.49 | enyc | foo: have phun... talk later ;-) |
| 06:38.57 | foo | :) |
| 06:39.14 | dondelelcaro | linolium: no, you can have it working with any cgi script. |
| 06:39.27 | dondelelcaro | linolium: you just have to use suexec to su to the user in question, then execute the script. |
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| 07:18.21 | thementor | hello channel |
| 07:18.32 | thementor | when is the next release of debian...december??? |
| 07:18.46 | row | hehe |
| 07:18.51 | row | debian is been updated all the time |
| 07:19.12 | row | testing/unstable is constantly moving |
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| 07:19.41 | kyon | row: he means stable release |
| 07:19.52 | thementor | row: im new to debian |
| 07:20.02 | thementor | is it better i go for sarge |
| 07:20.05 | row | kyon: yeah I don't belive in the us of stable tho ;) |
| 07:20.09 | thementor | r shld i wait for etch |
| 07:20.22 | row | thementor: just use etch now |
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| 07:21.09 | row | thementor: imo I would grab the biz iso from here and install testing or unstable http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 07:22.21 | stew | thementor: if you are new to debian, you should certainly stick with stable for now |
| 07:22.48 | row | testing is stable enough.... |
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| 07:23.09 | kyon | row: i disagree |
| 07:23.16 | stew | thementor: debian sticks to releasing "when its ready" instead of committing to a date. estimates for etch can be found at http://release.debian.org |
| 07:23.29 | stew | row: its not, it changes daily |
| 07:24.19 | thementor | stew: the lead manager suggested that it shld be ready by december... |
| 07:24.58 | stew | thementor: yes, but it really depends on the RC bug count, which is not necessarily under his control, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 07:25.16 | concept10 | does it matter what order switches are used in tar? i.e zxvf or xzfv ? |
| 07:25.21 | stew | concept10: no |
| 07:25.31 | stew | concept10: oh, f might need to be last |
| 07:25.56 | stew | the fv in xzfv probably means the file named v |
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| 07:26.11 | concept10 | stew, I had a problem once and so I started using zxvf, just wondeing |
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| 07:27.10 | Symmetria | heh |
| 07:27.49 | Symmetria | ok, now that I've managed to take the stupid dumb qlogic sourcecode for this driver which was freely available, and actually make it *COMPILE*, who feels like patching it to work with the newer kernels :p |
| 07:27.51 | FunkyBob | is there some way I can convince "apt-get dist-upgrade" that I really don't want the evolution-data-server stuff? |
| 07:28.16 | stew | FunkyBob: apt-get remove evolution-data-server |
| 07:28.22 | FunkyBob | stew: done that |
| 07:28.34 | FunkyBob | stew: but if I do a dist-upgrade, it reinstalls it |
| 07:28.38 | stew | FunkyBob: remove the package that depends on evolution-data-server |
| 07:28.54 | FunkyBob | stew: surely they'd go when I apt-get remove it? |
| 07:28.55 | stew | FunkyBob: apt-cache rdepends evolution-data-server |
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| 07:29.28 | stew | FunkyBob: i'm guessing you have a version of a package for which a newer version is waiting but the newer version depends on evolution-data-server but the older one didn't |
| 07:29.37 | linolium | how can I get apache2's suexec compiled so that it runs each request as the separate user? |
| 07:29.54 | stew | FunkyBob: if you have it removed and run "apt-get upgrade" instead of dist-upgrade this package should show up as one that is "kept back" |
| 07:30.15 | stew | linolium: iirc: dpkg-reconfigure apache2-common |
| 07:30.42 | linolium | stew, that didn't bring anything up |
| 07:31.39 | FunkyBob | stew: looks like gnomemeeting is the culprit |
| 07:32.12 | stew | linolium: "a2enmod suexec" |
| 07:32.30 | linolium | stew: it still doesn't help that it's compiled to run all requests as www-data |
| 07:32.55 | stew | linolium: i don't believe that it would be a compilation option |
| 07:33.32 | FunkyBob | stew: thanks... appreciate the quick response |
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| 07:34.56 | linolium | stew: looking at this page: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/suexec.html it sounds like that's the only place you can change it |
| 07:36.10 | stew | linolium: you want to run apache as other than www-data? |
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| 07:36.32 | stew | linolium: it seems to say that you need to configure at compile-time who can run suexec, not who suexec can su to |
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| 07:36.34 | linolium | stew: If you send a request for http://mydomain/~john/ it should run as john |
| 07:36.40 | stew | right |
| 07:36.56 | stew | linolium: but you dont' want to run apache as john, just the cgi inside ~/john |
| 07:37.09 | linolium | stew: it would make things simpler to just run apache as john |
| 07:37.33 | stew | linolium: then run apache as john |
| 07:37.45 | linolium | stew: but then if I access ~/bob it will run as john still |
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| 07:37.55 | stew | linolium: yes |
| 07:39.13 | stew | linolium: have you tried suexec unsuccessfully? |
| 07:39.21 | linolium | stew: have/am |
| 07:40.06 | stew | linolium: do you get any useful errors in the error log? |
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| 07:40.48 | linolium | stew: It's not really an error, it's just running how it is compiled to afaik... |
| 07:41.11 | stew | linolium: and how is "running how it is compiled to" a problem? |
| 07:41.31 | dimir | New Windows Linolium is out! |
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| 07:45.53 | linolium | stew: what would this mean from suexec.log: [2006-06-27 23:44:52]: too few arguments |
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| 07:49.05 | vaggie | I enabled LVM support in .config but i keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/vg0-system: Kernel does not support LVM |
| 07:49.08 | vaggie | when i dpkg -i the kernel |
| 07:49.17 | stew | linolium: i don't know |
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| 07:52.32 | thementor | is Debian Etch Beta2 available for 32 bit |
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| 07:52.58 | RvGaTe | thementor, should be... |
| 07:53.30 | thementor | RvGaTe: the dvd sellers in india specify it only for 64 bit |
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| 07:53.48 | RvGaTe | thementor, then there isn't.. lol |
| 07:54.20 | thementor | RvGaTe: i would like to hav an authoritative answere |
| 07:54.22 | thementor | RvGaTe: i would like to hav an authoritative answer |
| 07:54.40 | RvGaTe | sorry, just not awake, let me find/verify |
| 07:55.04 | thementor | azeem: what do u say |
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| 07:57.05 | mr_claus | hi, i try to compile glibc with the libc-xen part for debian sarge. glibc compiles fine but texi2html does not find chapters.texi and top-menu.texi, the files are not there, anybody knows something about the problem? |
| 07:57.09 | vaggie | I enabled LVM support in .config but i keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/vg0-system: Kernel does not support LVM |
| 07:57.10 | vaggie | when i dpkg -i the kernel |
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| 07:57.27 | mesut[away] | hi, after etch fresh install,i get fatal error, font element not found : fixed |
| 07:58.24 | RvGaTe | thementor, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html i quote: "The following images are available for beta 2", it includes the i386 image... looks like a 32bit |
| 07:59.03 | thementor | RvGaTe: thank you |
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| 08:00.06 | harobed | hi, I've set timezone via tzconfig bug date command don't use this timezone |
| 08:00.17 | harobed | How can I fix that ? |
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| 08:00.33 | harobed | s/bug/but |
| 08:00.41 | azeem | what timezone does it use? |
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| 08:00.50 | harobed | Europe/Paris |
| 08:00.53 | vaggie | anybody please? |
| 08:00.54 | vaggie | LVM? |
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| 08:01.59 | harobed | azeem: sorry, I didn't understand, date use UTC |
| 08:02.10 | thementor | now that debian etch is in testing stage...what willl the major additions with respect to the stabele one yet to come |
| 08:02.18 | azeem | harobed: maybe you haven't logged out? |
| 08:02.50 | azeem | harobed: also, check /etc/default/rcS for the "hardware time set to UTC" option |
| 08:02.53 | harobed | azeem: no, I've logout, login, and date use UTC |
| 08:02.55 | azeem | maybe you need to change that |
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| 08:04.10 | harobed | azeem: in my /etc/default/rcS, I've this : UTC=yes |
| 08:04.26 | azeem | what does hwdate say? |
| 08:04.35 | azeem | hwclock, even |
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| 08:05.08 | harobed | hwclock |
| 08:05.08 | harobed | select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
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| 08:05.29 | azeem | harobed: as root? |
| 08:05.29 | azeem | hrm |
| 08:05.29 | harobed | yes, I'm |
| 08:05.33 | azeem | well, no idea then |
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| 08:06.42 | Shadur | Augh! Someone uploaded a non-marillat version of gstreamer-plugins-bad with most of the codecs stripped out. WTH? |
| 08:07.07 | amoi | hello ppl; i have i gateway using debian. and behind my debian also have debian for webserver. how to i forward port 80 from debian gateway to debian webserver? |
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| 08:09.12 | azeem | Shadur: probably we cannot distribute those? |
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| 08:10.21 | dimir | amoi: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp ---dport 80 --to webserver_ip:80 |
| 08:10.36 | dimir | amoi: s/---/--/ |
| 08:11.19 | dimir | amoi: make sure the packets are correctly going back from webserver too. |
| 08:12.33 | dimir | Daily wtf: http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/79265.aspx |
| 08:13.25 | Symmetria | tar cvf . | tar -xvpC /new-point/ -f - <==== that should preserve all file permissions, ownership, modification times everything right? |
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| 08:16.38 | dimir | Symmetria: ye |
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| 08:18.58 | da | Remote host said: 550-"The recipient cannot be verified. Please check all recipients of this 550 message to verify they are valid." |
| 08:19.03 | da | can someone please assist me with that error |
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| 08:21.58 | rebooted | la france en finale !!!!allez la france :D |
| 08:22.16 | rebooted | don't kick, don't kick |
| 08:22.26 | epsilon | dimir: wouldn't that need additional FORWARD rule? |
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| 08:24.52 | sonasks | when i do apt-get -f install i get "subprocess pre-removal script returned error code -2" |
| 08:24.52 | dimir | aps: in case FORWARD is denied by default - yes. |
| 08:24.59 | dimir | epsilon too |
| 08:25.09 | sonasks | so i can`t do anything with dpkg or pat |
| 08:25.10 | sonasks | apt |
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| 08:25.17 | sonasks | how can this be fixed ? |
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| 08:25.44 | dimir | sonasks: what is the package that is stuck there? |
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| 08:26.35 | sonasks | psa-spamassassin |
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| 08:26.45 | sonasks | spamassassin from p[lesk control panel |
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| 08:26.56 | sonasks | it wants to deleted the user rules for antispam |
| 08:27.06 | sonasks | but there are not user files |
| 08:27.27 | sonasks | so i get "no such file or directory" about 2000 times, then this error |
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| 08:28.42 | dimir | sonasks: go to /var/lib/dpkg/infoo |
| 08:28.59 | dimir | and find file psa-spamassassin.prerm |
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| 08:30.05 | dimir | basically, if there is nothing important in there, just move it to some other dir, e. g. /tmp and run "apt-get -f install" again. |
| 08:31.39 | dimir | man, couldn't they add a check for deleting these rules before actually performing an delete! Some just will never learn to use checks. *sigh* |
| 08:31.59 | dimir | s/deleting/existance of/ |
| 08:35.00 | sonasks | yep |
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| 08:36.31 | g333k | Hi, what do I need to install docbook in etch? |
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| 08:37.52 | gejo_deb | today morning google ip is spam list |
| 08:37.55 | gejo_deb | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=72.14.214.206 |
| 08:38.23 | dimir | gejo_deb: ye, just had that problem. Spamcorp got it. |
| 08:38.31 | gejo_deb | and when I sent a mail to one of my Client from gmail the client will not get the email |
| 08:38.32 | dimir | g333k: apt-get install it. |
| 08:38.46 | dimir | !nickometer g333k |
| 08:38.48 | dpkg | 'g333k' is 56.000% lame, dimir |
| 08:38.58 | epsilon | google is spamming my http logs too, if they scan my website |
| 08:39.06 | g333k | dimir, what is it? |
| 08:39.10 | dimir | gejo_deb: thanks God the one I sent was just a message to my pal. |
| 08:39.18 | gejo_deb | http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/294.html |
| 08:39.24 | dimir | ye. |
| 08:39.26 | gejo_deb | I protect it using this |
| 08:39.46 | gejo_deb | but I did not got any reject message from the mailserver |
| 08:39.55 | dimir | I got. |
| 08:39.58 | gejo_deb | any idea |
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| 08:40.23 | g333k | dimir, what is it "nickometer" about? |
| 08:40.56 | g333k | !nickometer dimir |
| 08:40.58 | dpkg | 'dimir' is 0.000% lame, g333k |
| 08:41.16 | gejo_deb | I think that if the sender ip comes in spam list mail server which are protected by dnsbl send a bounce back message to sender |
| 08:41.32 | gejo_deb | but i did not receieve any bounce back message in gmail |
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| 08:42.03 | gejo_deb | any body have any idea in this topic |
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| 08:44.54 | dondelelcaro | gejo_deb: they just reject with a 550 or similar. |
| 08:45.06 | dondelelcaro | gejo_deb: but rejecting based on dnsbl is kind of a bad idea. |
| 08:45.30 | knt | is it possible to enable debug mode while booting to debug "Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" type of kernel panics? |
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| 08:46.02 | g333k | dimir, whats wrong with my nick¡? |
| 08:46.06 | dondelelcaro | knt: there's really nothing to debug there. The root filesystem could not be mounted because you specified the wrong one or didn't build in or load the right modules. |
| 08:46.07 | g333k | nick?* |
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| 08:46.13 | dondelelcaro | !tell phalacee-away -about away |
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| 08:46.55 | vaggie | What is the latest unstable package version number of mkinitrd? |
| 08:46.57 | phalacee-away | !tell phalacee-away about away |
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| 08:47.24 | knt | dondelelcaro: I don't have any modules. I've enabled the IDE_DISK and reiserfs options while compiling. furthermore I've gave exact kernel parameters as the old working ones to the new kernel, but it still doesn't work. |
| 08:47.56 | dondelelcaro | knt: are you using an initrd? are you using devfs? are you using udev? |
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| 08:48.11 | gejo_deb | what is the good idea? |
| 08:48.38 | dondelelcaro | gejo_deb: ? |
| 08:48.58 | knt | dondelelcaro: As I said above, i don't have any modules, therefore no initrd (despite, I've enabled cramfs) and in the new kernel releases devfs is removed, therefore no devfs. for udev, I couldn't find any option for it in the menuconfig. |
| 08:49.24 | dondelelcaro | gejo_deb: see /topic and refrain from /msg'ing me. |
| 08:49.29 | vaggie | Does mkinitrd support LVM? |
| 08:49.42 | gejo_deb | sorry |
| 08:50.04 | dondelelcaro | knt: which kernel are you using currently? |
| 08:50.25 | gejo_deb | <dondelelcaro>: Did you know any other method other than dnsbl |
| 08:50.40 | gejo_deb | <dondelelcaro> I am not good in MIRC |
| 08:50.44 | knt | dondelelcaro: 2.6.8-2-386 (shipped with debian sarge) |
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| 08:51.24 | g333k | Hi, can you tell me what pkgs do I need to install docbook? |
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| 08:51.36 | dondelelcaro | knt: that's most likely using devfs |
| 08:52.23 | knt | dondelelcaro: I don't have devfs in here. (dpkg -l|grep devfs returns nothing, nor mount output) |
| 08:52.56 | dondelelcaro | knt: do you have udev installed? |
| 08:53.14 | clone | I came in here to ask about changing your network cards MAC address on boot, but I found it already. |
| 08:53.31 | knt | dondelelcaro: no. isn't udev for hotplug stuff under /dev? |
| 08:53.52 | knt | dondelelcaro: I don't think it's related with hard disks. |
| 08:53.57 | dondelelcaro | knt: yes, the question is whether or not you actually have a /dev. |
| 08:54.22 | RvGaTe | today is the day, that im completely bored at work ! and i cant leave ffs :( |
| 08:54.49 | dondelelcaro | although, actually, in this case, that wouldn't give you that error... |
| 08:55.15 | HelmutG | Hi. Do you consider luks stable? I.e. how likely is it that a partition encrypted with a luks-stored key will be mountable in the next kernel releases? Does it help at all? |
| 08:55.16 | knt | dondelelcaro: Is there any way to learn it? (here's my mount output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3YtDIb22.html) |
| 08:55.50 | dondelelcaro | knt: yeah, that looks fine. Is this a SATA drive? |
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| 08:56.06 | knt | dondelelcaro: no, an old IDE. |
| 08:56.31 | dondelelcaro | knt: hrm. paste your config for this kernel then |
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| 08:56.43 | dondelelcaro | (use a paste site, rather) |
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| 08:57.58 | pmo | hmm... :( ... i'd like to access my AV500 through my linux notebook.. but not luck till now.. and sounds like googling doesn't help much, can someone give me some tips.. or anything.. one hour lost :( |
| 08:58.48 | knt | dondelelcaro: also, here's some more information: http://rafb.net/paste/results/pGRU2u54.html http://www.students.itu.edu.tr/~yazicivo/config.txt |
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| 09:00.20 | mr_claus | can i switch the default gcc to 3.4 on debian sarge? |
| 09:00.39 | Eclipser | ai noin |
| 09:00.41 | Eclipser | whops |
| 09:00.43 | Eclipser | wrong channel, sorry |
| 09:01.10 | pmo | any help channel for linux ? and more specifically AV500 / linux ? |
| 09:01.19 | FalscherHase | hi. i have two directories, /etc/modprobe.d and /etc/modutils. i think one of them is obsolete with kernel 2.6. which one? |
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| 09:02.02 | pmo | mr_claus, "ln" is your friend.. or some other stuff like CC or GCC.. at worst.. ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc |
| 09:02.15 | noshitheel | hello dudes |
| 09:02.41 | mr_claus | pmo: yes i know, i though there is a standardway like alternatives or any other solution |
| 09:03.13 | noshitheel | i'm sorry to ask this, i suppose you've discussed about that before, but is there a way to fix the ntp-server error on the debian sid ? |
| 09:03.17 | pmo | mr_claus, i don't know.. l've been borned with slackware help yourself... |
| 09:03.19 | stew | pmo: mr_claus: no, you shouln't be messing with the symlinks at all, but setting the CC and HOSTCC variables to point to whichever gcc you need |
| 09:03.39 | mr_claus | ok, ty |
| 09:03.51 | dondelelcaro | knt: you've got CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=m |
| 09:03.55 | dondelelcaro | knt: that's probably not going to work. |
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| 09:04.38 | superlinux | hello i have some info to share with you |
| 09:04.48 | superlinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.47 | blondie | sand paper? |
| 09:05.50 | knt | dondelelcaro: thanks so much, that'll probably fix the problem. (I'll inform you about the result.) |
| 09:06.03 | pmo | i have some kind of archos stuff. with mobile storage of about 30 Gig.... when plugged in through USB cable.. it shows ehci_hcd.. and other stuff like choosed configuration 1.. but nothing else like devices.. ala /dev/sda shows up.. i don't know how to access my device.. any clues ? or should i commit linux suicide ? |
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| 09:06.54 | dondelelcaro | knt: cool; double check CONFIG_BLK_HD_DEV; I don't remember exactly what that enables |
| 09:07.08 | noshitheel | nobody had fixed the ntp-server problem ? |
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| 09:07.29 | stew | noshitheel: have you checked the bts? |
| 09:07.46 | streuner | pmo: /msg dpkg usb_storage |
| 09:07.47 | noshitheel | stew: errr, no sorry |
| 09:08.11 | pmo | superlinux, looks like some pretty nifty bug.. check if you can reproduce it at will.. :) that helps much.. :) |
| 09:08.23 | pmo | streuner, gonna give it a try, thanks :) |
| 09:08.26 | knt | dondelelcaro: CONFIG_BLK_HD_DEV? I couldn't find such an option. |
| 09:08.33 | stew | noshitheel: if we knew anything, we would hopefully be inthe bts already |
| 09:08.43 | junii | hi, I am using debian through a proxy. Thats no problem for konqueror or lynx because I can configure the proxy with these apps. However, most apps lack this feature. Is it possible to configure the proxy at a lower level than applications (so to speak) |
| 09:08.58 | noshitheel | stew : what is bts ? here in france it's a school's degree ;-) |
| 09:08.59 | dondelelcaro | knt: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE |
| 09:09.17 | dondelelcaro | I don't remember what that enables, but the name is... evocative. |
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| 09:09.24 | noshitheel | stew : bug tracking system lol |
| 09:09.30 | knt | dondelelcaro: Hmm.. it must stand for "Use old disk-only driver on primary interface" |
| 09:09.36 | noshitheel | stew : i go check there. thx |
| 09:09.40 | dondelelcaro | ah, probably |
| 09:09.41 | ktwilight | junii, i think you can try to configure it through ifconfig? |
| 09:10.11 | ktwilight | either that or use iptables. can't remember which :/ |
| 09:10.28 | streuner | !tell noshitheel about bts |
| 09:10.30 | knt | dondelelcaro: Here's the further information: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ytOUL738.html should I enable it? |
| 09:10.32 | pmo | node3667, bug tracking system.. et pas brevet technicien superieur |
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| 09:11.03 | knt | dondelelcaro: (I just want to learn the necessity and function of it.) |
| 09:11.15 | noshitheel | streuner : thanks a lot man |
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| 09:11.40 | streuner | noshitheel: you're welcome :-) |
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| 09:13.37 | moses | ./names |
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| 09:13.56 | moses | burn... |
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| 09:24.02 | is_null | hello everybody, how am i supposed to select the hardware to use with opengl ? (i used 'eselect' with gentoo) |
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| 09:25.14 | mesut[away] | hi, apt-get install gnome stopped with: unable to fetch libsexy, 403 Forbidden (tried with 3 different mirrors,same) |
| 09:25.57 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], you sure you are root? |
| 09:26.10 | mesut[away] | what is libsexy (never heard before), how do i fix the issue |
| 09:26.34 | mesut[away] | huh, it downloaded 100s of packages, just stopped with libsexy |
| 09:26.38 | RvGaTe | alright |
| 09:26.42 | RvGaTe | hmm |
| 09:26.52 | RvGaTe | you can manually login into the ftp/http ? |
| 09:26.57 | tarzeau | mesut[away]: try a different mirror? |
| 09:27.06 | tarzeau | mesut[away]: 403 is file permission problem on the server |
| 09:27.11 | streuner | mesut[away]: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 09:27.13 | mesut[away] | i tried ftp.tr , ftp.de , http.us |
| 09:27.22 | tarzeau | mesut[away]: try ftp.ch |
| 09:27.30 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], and try ftp.nl |
| 09:27.32 | cusco | mesut[away]: what mirrors are you using |
| 09:27.33 | cusco | ? |
| 09:27.39 | streuner | tarzeau: are you sure? |
| 09:27.42 | tarzeau | streuner: no |
| 09:27.50 | tarzeau | streuner: but i'm hungry... |
| 09:27.53 | streuner | hehe |
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| 09:27.59 | mesut[away] | streuner, ii libc6 2.3.6.-15 |
| 09:28.05 | streuner | !info libsexy2 |
| 09:28.14 | dpkg | libsexy2: (collection of additional GTK+ widgets - library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.1.8-1 (sid), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 09:28.48 | tarzeau | this name is STUPID |
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| 09:28.55 | tarzeau | for additional GTK+ widgets |
| 09:29.03 | tarzeau | someone needs a severe spanking |
| 09:29.16 | tarzeau | Riccardo Setti <giskard@autistici.org> |
| 09:29.28 | azeem | tarzeau: why? |
| 09:29.38 | mesut[away] | ild first ttry ftp.nl , ftp.ch is probably too crowded |
| 09:29.52 | streuner | mesut[away]: what does BTS say about? prolly gnome metapackage is broken then |
| 09:30.31 | mesut[away] | what is BTS ? |
| 09:30.34 | azeem | !bts |
| 09:30.35 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 09:31.06 | streuner | mesut[away]: just install basic packages of gnome then |
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| 09:31.17 | mesut[away] | need to get 37K/199MB |
| 09:31.21 | mesut[away] | damn last package...lol |
| 09:31.31 | tarzeau | azeem: it should rather be libgtksexy or libgtkimprovedwidgets |
| 09:31.37 | mesut[away] | ftp.nl , still same, 403 forbidden |
| 09:32.14 | RvGaTe | tarzeau, i'd probable go for libiwidget (sounds funnyer to) |
| 09:32.18 | azeem | tarzeau: GTK applications and libraries don't contain `gtk' usually, they just have fantasy names |
| 09:33.10 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], could you pastebin your sources.list ? |
| 09:33.25 | junii | i have kde installed on my system but it uses gdm for the login screen. I assume I must have made a mistake on install and selected this as the default. I am going to install kdm but how to I set this up as my default |
| 09:33.27 | tarzeau | azeem: i think they should all have gtk in the debian package name |
| 09:33.29 | mesut[away] | RvGaTe, i am installing opsnssh on the box, so i can cp/paste |
| 09:33.37 | azeem | tarzeau: it's a library |
| 09:33.48 | tarzeau | especially the libraries |
| 09:33.53 | azeem | users don't usually care about libraries |
| 09:34.10 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], you can't or can? |
| 09:34.25 | is_null | hello everybody, how am i supposed to select the hardware to use as opengl interface ? (i used 'eselect' with gentoo) >> nobody ? |
| 09:34.25 | mesut[away] | Password: |
| 09:34.26 | mesut[away] | otp-md5 268 ad5151 ext, Response: |
| 09:34.34 | mesut[away] | wtf is happening ? me is lost |
| 09:36.20 | mesut[away] | RvGaTe, http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=395 |
| 09:36.38 | Eulex | is_null, have you got a few cards from different manufacturers or a few cards from the same manufacturer? |
| 09:37.16 | HelmutG | Is there a debian-way to modify initrds? |
| 09:37.31 | mesut[away] | damn! the word sexy is denied by local proxy server,so i even cannot search it |
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| 09:38.19 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], you could try to login onto that ftp, go to the folder: /debian/pool/main/libs/libsexy/ grab the .deb you need... and do a dpkg -i file.deb to install it |
| 09:38.31 | renewbie | how can I restart sshd in debian? |
| 09:38.41 | Eulex | renewbie, /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 09:38.45 | moses | # /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 09:38.52 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], i can't verify that'll work, but at least you could try |
| 09:38.57 | HelmutG | mesut[away]: lol, I had that problem recently, ftp worked for me. |
| 09:39.11 | HelmutG | mesut[away]: If needed I can mirror it with a different name for you. |
| 09:39.29 | RvGaTe | HelmutG, you just downloaded the .deb right? |
| 09:39.45 | HelmutG | RvGaTe: yeah, to /var/cache/apt/archives and aptitude was happy |
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| 09:40.00 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], got that ? :) |
| 09:40.05 | HelmutG | So is there a Debian-way to modify initrds? |
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| 09:40.08 | mesut[away] | thank you guys |
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| 09:41.17 | SerajewelKS | if one package "replaces" another, it should satisfy dependencies for the package it replaces, no? |
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| 09:41.45 | ktwilight | should do... |
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| 09:42.24 | SerajewelKS | libopenal0a replaces libopenal0, but scorched3d will be removed if i install 0a because it depends on libopenal0... ? |
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| 09:42.37 | sonasks | guys, could you tell me once again how to delete the package manually ?? |
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| 09:42.45 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, probably just transition problems... |
| 09:42.52 | renewbie | thank you guys |
| 09:42.55 | usmarine | sonasks, apt-get remove --purge |
| 09:43.02 | usmarine | sonasks, apt-get remove --purge pkg |
| 09:43.09 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: transition problems are irrelevant to apt misbehaving |
| 09:43.11 | usmarine | or dpkg -r pkg |
| 09:43.29 | renewbie | Eulex: thank you |
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| 09:43.30 | ktwilight | SerajewelKS, check packages.debian.org and see whether it's adhering to its dependencies? |
| 09:43.31 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: neither libopenal0a nor scorched3d specify a conflict with each other |
| 09:43.43 | SerajewelKS | ktwilight: adhering how? |
| 09:43.51 | sonasks | noo |
| 09:43.56 | sonasks | not by apt or dpkg |
| 09:44.05 | sonasks | it`s causing the prblem uninstall script |
| 09:44.10 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, umh, how has this got anything to do with apt misbehaving? scorched3d has just not been rebuilt to use libopenal0a instead of libopenal0 yet |
| 09:44.13 | sonasks | and now he is blocking everything |
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| 09:44.23 | ktwilight | SerajewelKS, i meant whether what apt is doing the same as what packages.debian.org is too |
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| 09:44.32 | sonasks | because he want to be removed |
| 09:44.36 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: that's not the point at all. if one package specifies that i replaces another package, should that not satisfy the dependency? |
| 09:44.40 | sonasks | when i do so, theuninstalls cript returns an error |
| 09:44.47 | sonasks | and i`m stuck |
| 09:44.55 | HelmutG | What is the difference between initrd-tools and initramfs-tools? |
| 09:44.56 | ktwilight | i once thought apt makes mistakes, but i highly doubt it now. |
| 09:44.59 | knt | dondelelcaro: generic ide option solved the problem. thanks again. |
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| 09:45.09 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, no, that's what Provides: is for |
| 09:45.22 | knt | dondelelcaro: but this time I cannot scroll back so much in the console, did you remember the name of that feature? |
| 09:45.33 | sonasks | ok, i was removing package through ssh session |
| 09:45.43 | sonasks | and my shitty windows hanged |
| 09:45.47 | sonasks | and i had to restart |
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| 09:45.54 | sonasks | and now apt have messed up databse |
| 09:46.04 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: so what the hell does Replaces do |
| 09:46.58 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, I'm not sure. |
| 09:47.19 | sonasks | where do apt stores the information about what package is installed ? can i edit it ? |
| 09:47.37 | SerajewelKS | sonasks: which package |
| 09:47.52 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html#s-depends |
| 09:47.58 | sonasks | psa-spamassassin, spamassassin module for plesk control panel |
| 09:48.11 | SerajewelKS | sonasks: checked the BTS? |
| 09:48.21 | SerajewelKS | Eulex: hmm |
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| 09:49.05 | superlinux | !kismet |
| 09:49.05 | dpkg | kismet is probably a wireless sniffer, http://www.kismetwireless.net. kismet will not work with ndiswrapper and configuring it is somewhat painful, the kismet docs are very good and should be read before going to #kismet asking questions |
| 09:49.16 | amoi | thanks dimir |
| 09:49.40 | dimir | np |
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| 09:49.46 | sonasks | that sucks |
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| 09:49.54 | sonasks | i have one broken package |
| 09:49.59 | sonasks | and now i can`t do anything |
| 09:50.15 | sonasks | cause when i decide to not remove it - debina says -NONO |
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| 09:50.27 | dimir | sonasks: remove it using dpkg |
| 09:50.49 | sonasks | when i want to rmeove it - package uninstall scripts messes something up and returns the error and dpk and apt says - NONONO |
| 09:50.52 | streuner | sonasks: does the package has a name? |
| 09:50.58 | sonasks | so now basicalkly i have broken package system |
| 09:51.02 | sonasks | psa-spamassassin |
| 09:51.08 | dimir | sonasks: dpkg -r psa-spamassassin |
| 09:51.15 | sonasks | i was removing it during interrupted ssh session |
| 09:51.23 | sonasks | so i guess that messed up everythin |
| 09:51.26 | streuner | sonasks: paste the whole error in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 09:51.40 | sonasks | dpkg -r spamassassin gives me the sam eiutput as apt-get remove psa-spamassassin |
| 09:52.19 | dimir | hehe |
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| 09:52.40 | streuner | !find psa-spamassassin |
| 09:52.55 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'psa-spamassassin' returned no results. |
| 09:53.58 | sonasks | this is a commercial package |
| 09:54.03 | sonasks | for plesk control panel |
| 09:54.11 | streuner | sonasks: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 09:54.31 | aidan | the sarge verison of xsltproc segfaults, is it possible to install a non-broken version (from etch, or something) |
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| 09:54.51 | streuner | aidan: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 09:55.01 | streuner | aidan: or just visit backports.org |
| 09:55.21 | dimir | sonasks: once again, what streuner asked about, would you paste the whole error somewhere? |
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| 09:55.35 | Gnea | !paster |
| 09:55.35 | dpkg | i guess pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 09:56.03 | g333k | Hi, I have a print connected via usb, how can I know it's adress? I mean "/dev/......." ? |
| 09:56.16 | sonasks | look into dmesg |
| 09:56.30 | sonasks | it should tell you to waht usb port device is connected |
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| 09:57.11 | arachnist | what can i do to install only these xorg drivers, not all of them? |> 'xserver-xorg-input-mouse' 'xserver-xorg-input-evdev' 'xserver-xorg-input-kbd' 'xserver-xorg-video-nv' 'xserver-xorg-video-vesa' |
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| 09:57.48 | dimir | arachnist: apt-get install them |
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| 09:58.33 | arachnist | dimir: but that puts also xserver-xorg-video-all in deplist |
| 09:58.39 | mesut[away] | HelmutG, RvGaTe after figuring out the problem, i changed my gateway,and bypassed squidguard,everything seems OK now |
| 09:58.44 | g333k | sonasks, another way? dmesg give me information,,,, but maybe is not what I need |
| 09:58.58 | mesut[away] | besides,the package has indeed a stupid name |
| 09:58.58 | RvGaTe | mesut[away], lol, np... at least you know a different way now |
| 09:59.33 | Gnea | g333k: what printer is it again? |
| 09:59.33 | mesut[away] | our squid blocks with regex -i , and the package is libSEXY |
| 09:59.46 | RvGaTe | hahaha |
| 09:59.51 | dimir | arachnist: that means these are needed in order for the ones you chosen to work. |
| 09:59.52 | g333k | Gnea, is a hp psc 2175 |
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| 10:00.04 | sonasks | where do apt keeps his list of installed packages ?? |
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| 10:00.19 | ktwilight | prolly /var/local/apt? |
| 10:00.25 | Gnea | g333k: using hplip or hpijs? |
| 10:00.34 | g333k | I'm using hplip |
| 10:00.38 | Gnea | cool |
| 10:00.56 | Nemoder | arachnist: you might try dselect to get a better picture of the dependencies |
| 10:00.56 | ktwilight | sonasks, /var/lib/apt/lists? |
| 10:01.07 | dimir | /var/lib/dpkg |
| 10:01.13 | arachnist | Nemoder: hmm, thanks |
| 10:01.20 | ktwilight | oh... |
| 10:01.24 | Gnea | g333k: hp-info, look for the hp:/ address |
| 10:02.25 | g333k | Gnea, Well my problem is that I can print from open office, etc but not from console... so I decided to configure /et/printcap using apsfilter, Am I in the correct way? |
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| 10:02.57 | Gnea | g333k: no, you just need to alias lpr=`lpr -P {printer name you used in cupsd.conf}` |
| 10:03.12 | Gnea | rather.. |
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| 10:03.29 | Gnea | alias lpr=`lpr -P {printer name you used in cupsd.conf} $ARGV |
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| 10:03.41 | Gnea | +` |
| 10:04.07 | Hoxzer | what is that package that allows you to build debs from sorsa? |
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| 10:05.26 | Eulex | from ducks? ;) |
| 10:05.39 | Gnea | heh |
| 10:05.42 | Hoxzer | :) no from source |
| 10:05.55 | blondie | sauce? |
| 10:05.59 | setcode | hello |
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| 10:06.38 | Hoxzer | but what is that packag |
| 10:06.39 | Hoxzer | e |
| 10:06.46 | azeem | Hoxzer: it's not a package |
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| 10:07.02 | Hoxzer | :D wtf wtf wtf |
| 10:07.03 | azeem | it's a process; you need build-essential installed as a minimum though |
| 10:07.10 | Hoxzer | ahaa |
| 10:07.12 | Hoxzer | ok |
| 10:07.15 | Hoxzer | no se on asennettuna |
| 10:07.21 | azeem | please write in english |
| 10:07.31 | Hoxzer | azeem: :) installed it is |
| 10:07.32 | dimir | Hoxzer: you mean like emerge thing in gentoo? |
| 10:08.00 | Hoxzer | dimir: haven use gentoo but my buildpackage freezes :( |
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| 10:08.14 | azeem | Hoxzer: well, pastebin errors |
| 10:08.31 | Hoxzer | it isn't error |
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| 10:08.43 | azeem | Hoxzer: what is it? |
| 10:09.03 | Hoxzer | http://pastebin.ca/73824 |
| 10:09.12 | Hoxzer | it just stays in that state like 30mins |
| 10:09.38 | Eulex | Hoxzer, hmm, what are you compiling and why? |
| 10:09.54 | azeem | Hoxzer: maybe it's a distcc bug? |
| 10:09.56 | Hoxzer | Mythplugins but but |
| 10:10.04 | Hoxzer | :D this isn't the channel where I should ask that so |
| 10:10.17 | Hoxzer | my distro is only debian sid based so |
| 10:10.26 | Hoxzer | "it is not debian" |
| 10:10.34 | azeem | Hoxzer: if you say so |
| 10:10.47 | Hoxzer | azeem: :D you can still help me |
| 10:10.51 | Gnea | Hoxzer: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 10:11.09 | azeem | Hoxzer: well, try to reproduce the hang without distcc |
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| 10:11.54 | Eulex | Hoxzer, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ has the myth plugins for debian |
| 10:11.58 | Eulex | precompiled. |
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| 10:12.03 | arachnist | my debian is sid debootstrapped using dev-util/debootstrap from gentoo ;> |
| 10:12.14 | Hoxzer | Eulex: yeah, but I'm using svn version 0.19-fixes |
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| 10:12.50 | Gnea | arachnist: why? |
| 10:12.52 | Eulex | Hoxzer, ok |
| 10:12.55 | Hoxzer | azeem: and how do I do that exacly |
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| 10:13.04 | azeem | Hoxzer: I don't know, I never used distcc |
| 10:13.10 | Hoxzer | lol |
| 10:13.23 | Gnea | distcc is easy, just symlink it to your gcc |
| 10:13.33 | arachnist | Gnea: for fun, got drunk yesterday and decided to do something strange |
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| 10:13.57 | Gnea | arachnist: ok, do you happen to recall the goal that you had in mind? ;) |
| 10:13.59 | arachnist | Gnea: and 'rm -rf /' was out of the question |
| 10:14.04 | Gnea | rofl |
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| 10:15.54 | arachnist | btw, what's this " This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers." in aptitude --help ? |
| 10:15.56 | geoaxis | where do i go for debian related ..but off topic chat ? like which certfication does debian crowd like etc |
| 10:15.58 | sonasks | any of you guys knows where apt keeps the list of installed packages ? |
| 10:16.05 | sonasks | in some db somehwere ? |
| 10:16.07 | sonasks | can it be edited by hand ? |
| 10:16.16 | azeem | /var/lib/dpkg/status I think |
| 10:16.17 | geoaxis | i meant which channel? |
| 10:16.31 | azeem | sonasks: I wouldn't recommend editing it manually, though... |
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| 10:17.03 | Eulex | arachnist, try apt-get moo. then aptitude moo, aptitude moo -v, aptitude moo -vv etc. also check out apt-build moo, if you've got that one installed. |
| 10:17.04 | Bert- | hello there |
| 10:17.34 | arachnist | Eulex: seen the "moo"-s already ;) |
| 10:17.41 | Gnea | arachnist: i dunno, looks unprofeessional, but hey, that's debian. edits have been made :) |
| 10:17.42 | Bert- | I updated my etch yesterday, and then I cannot boot at all :( The system hangs on Begin: Waiting for root file system |
| 10:17.54 | Eulex | arachnist, ah :) anyway, that's what it's referring to in the help |
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| 10:18.24 | Bert- | I can see on google that i'm not the first with this problem, but seems to be not solutions :( Does someone knows how to fix it |
| 10:18.26 | Bert- | please ? |
| 10:18.43 | Gnea | !bugs |
| 10:18.50 | dpkg | error: could not parse |
| 10:18.50 | Gnea | !bts |
| 10:18.50 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:18.55 | arachnist | btw, paludis has better "moo", http://wklej.org/id/553ced887b |
| 10:18.57 | Gnea | Bert-: check that ^^^ |
| 10:19.17 | arachnist | gwah, it got destroyed |
| 10:19.29 | Gnea | arachnist: ? |
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| 10:19.43 | arachnist | ah, nothing |
| 10:19.48 | Gnea | arachnist: lilo or grub? |
| 10:20.58 | arachnist | Gnea: ? i was talking about the "http://wklej.org/id/553ced887b", destroyed itself while pasting thonks to different tab-width |
| 10:23.00 | g333k | Gnea, Excuse me I dont see any printer name un cupsd.conf |
| 10:23.25 | Gnea | g333k: did you check the sourced config files? |
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| 10:23.49 | mesut[away] | i installed all of gnome-icon themes, now how to switch ? |
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| 10:23.57 | g333k | Gnea, I dont know what are the "sourced config files" :$ |
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| 10:24.06 | Gnea | arachnist: is crack is what you like, fine. :P |
| 10:24.09 | SnuS | Hey. |
| 10:24.13 | SnuS | I am having some problems with one of my hard drives. brand new, just installed (had another one replaced), and it is not displaying sizes properly. /dev/sdb1 294G 285G 0 100% /mnt/mp3 |
| 10:24.14 | Gnea | g333k: they're at the bottom] |
| 10:24.40 | Gnea | SnuS: make/model/advertised size? |
| 10:25.01 | Blissex | SnuS: define «properly». |
| 10:25.09 | g333k | Gnea, ports.conf and browse.conf? |
| 10:25.10 | arachnist | Gnea: sorry, i still have a hangover today ;> |
| 10:25.19 | Gnea | arachnist: lol |
| 10:25.37 | SnuS | SCSI device sdb: 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) |
| 10:26.02 | arachnist | Gnea: what? happens when you've got more than enough free time ;P |
| 10:26.06 | petemc | SnuS: space on a disk is reserved for root |
| 10:26.09 | Gnea | g333k: i'm sorry, printers.conf, the default name |
| 10:26.36 | Gnea | SnuS: did you partition it? |
| 10:26.37 | krassy1809 | Can i install debian stable if i have only ubuntu livecd and LAN-based internet , no floppy , no cd-writer ? |
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| 10:26.55 | Blissex | !mib |
| 10:26.55 | dpkg | hmm... mib is MibiBytes, the new politically correct way of saying "megabytes", with emphasis on the 1048576-byte-ness (2^20, not 10^6). Also "Management Information Base" (SNMP), or Men in Black. |
| 10:27.01 | SnuS | Blissex well, it says the total capacity is 294GB. it is a "320gb advertised" hard drive. It currently uses 285gb and says it's full. it's only one 320070.33 MB partition. |
| 10:27.07 | SnuS | using an ext3 file system. |
| 10:27.07 | Gnea | krassy1809: yes, if you can setup a netboot loader in ubuntu |
| 10:27.22 | Blissex | SnuS: that is all right. There is no problem. |
| 10:27.33 | Gnea | SnuS: yeah, that's right |
| 10:27.38 | SnuS | so the hard drive is really full ? |
| 10:27.40 | g333k | alias lpr=`lpr -P hp2175 $ARGV |
| 10:27.44 | Gnea | SnuS: the journal itself takes up some space |
| 10:27.45 | Blissex | SnuS: yes. |
| 10:27.50 | sonasks | heh, editing staut file for dpkg by hand worked |
| 10:27.57 | petemc | SnuS: you can adjust the space reserved for root with tune2fs |
| 10:27.58 | Gnea | g333k: yeah, with a ` at the end |
| 10:28.01 | sonasks | couple more apt-get -f install and will be ok |
| 10:28.04 | sonasks | :D |
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| 10:28.12 | SnuS | petemc do you suggest that ? |
| 10:28.25 | Gnea | SnuS: partitions are a life saver |
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| 10:28.28 | Hoxzer | AArgh |
| 10:28.30 | Blissex | SnuS: drive size is given in millions of bytes, but 'df' reports in mibibytes, which is 5% smaller. Also 'ext3' has some more overhead than other OSes. |
| 10:28.31 | petemc | SnuS: depends, is that your onyl disk? |
| 10:28.53 | SnuS | no, I have two disks. /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. |
| 10:28.56 | Gnea | mibibytes? :) |
| 10:29.01 | wlwireless | does apache2 comes with support for php? if so, is it 4 or 5? |
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| 10:29.13 | Blissex | !tell Gnea about mib |
| 10:29.16 | Gnea | i think Blissex made a new work ;) |
| 10:29.17 | petemc | SnuS: disk space is so cheap now, probably best to leave it as is |
| 10:29.26 | g333k | Gnea, I execute the command, but I didnt return to the prompt, its like doing soemthing |
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| 10:29.44 | krassy1809 | Gnea:download and mount debian stable iso then chroot ? or something else is boot loader setup ? |
| 10:29.47 | Gnea | Blissex: oh, that's the W'04 method? ;P |
| 10:30.23 | SnuS | ok, thanks. |
| 10:30.33 | geoaxis | room : question ..which linux certification would u suggest for some one who is just starting? |
| 10:30.35 | crazy_penguin | hi all! |
| 10:30.43 | krassy1809 | Gnea:netinstall iso i meen |
| 10:30.46 | Blissex | Gnea: yes, new ISO units, I think they were invented by the BSI though. |
| 10:30.59 | Blissex | geoaxis: the cheapest, probably LPI |
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| 10:31.21 | arachnist | yay, a thunderstorm. just what i need for my headache ;/ |
| 10:31.25 | wlwireless | nobody knows about apache2 and php? |
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| 10:31.33 | Gnea | Blissex: BullShit Inventions? j/k ;) |
| 10:31.56 | petemc | wlwireless: apt-cache search php |
| 10:31.56 | SnuS | well, thank you very much, I'm off now, heading home to get some rest. was just wondering what was up with that. |
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| 10:32.11 | webmonkey | hi guys |
| 10:32.17 | SnuS | I'll move some files off that drive and see what happens. see you. |
| 10:32.19 | Eulex | wlwireless, you need to install it separately. only php4 is available in sarge, php5 is available from backports and from the main debian archives if you use testing or unstable |
| 10:32.19 | geoaxis | Blissex : what do wish u had (or u r proud to have ) if money was not the main concern |
| 10:32.38 | Gnea | krassy1809: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en#dhcpd |
| 10:32.39 | webmonkey | I'm having a major problem, I cant connect to my server or even ping it, the connection seems to be down for some reason. any suggestions? |
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| 10:32.56 | Eulex | wlwireless, for example, to get php4 for apache2 you'd install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 10:33.03 | Gnea | webmonkey: what server? |
| 10:33.23 | g333k | Gnea, I did the alias, but now I try to print: #lpr file.txt, and nothing, I did #lpq, and I got this output: Error: loop in printcap- hp2175@gaf1.gaf -> hp2175@gaf1.gaf |
| 10:33.24 | webmonkey | Gnea: Debian 2.6 unstable |
| 10:33.38 | wlwireless | Eulex: thks. assuming i have installed php, how to config apache2 to support php? |
| 10:33.57 | Gnea | g333k: how many lines in your /etc/printcap? |
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| 10:34.08 | g333k | Gnea, 3 or 4 |
| 10:34.09 | Maulkin | apt-get install libapache-mod-php(4 or 5) |
| 10:34.13 | Gnea | webmonkey: lan or ip? |
| 10:34.15 | Maulkin | wlwireless: ^^ |
| 10:34.21 | webmonkey | I'm going to go to the server itself, but not sure what to check |
| 10:34.25 | raf256 | is ln /etc/init.d/distcc /etc/rc6.d/S20distcc the proper way to have a service DISTCC to be start up? |
| 10:34.27 | webmonkey | Gnea: LAN |
| 10:34.28 | Gnea | g333k: can you paste them please? |
| 10:34.29 | wlwireless | i had done it on apache1 but apache2.conf looks so different. |
| 10:34.29 | Eulex | wlwireless, a2enmod php4. that's basically it, I think. |
| 10:34.36 | g333k | Gnea, ok in #flood |
| 10:34.44 | Gnea | webmonkey: got kbd+monitor? :) |
| 10:34.51 | webmonkey | Gnea: yea |
| 10:35.02 | Gnea | g333k: check |
| 10:35.05 | Eulex | wlwireless, the command a2enmod php4 would enable the php4 module for apache2. you'll need to restart apache2 after that. |
| 10:35.14 | webmonkey | what should I check first? do an ifconfig and see if the device is ok? |
| 10:35.17 | Gnea | webmonkey: what did you setup on the server for a firewall? |
| 10:35.26 | webmonkey | Gnea: I used shorewall |
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| 10:35.39 | g333k | Gnea, Done |
| 10:35.41 | wlwireless | Eulex: great. it is done so differently compared to apache1. |
| 10:35.58 | Gnea | g333k: alias lpr=`lpr -P hp2175` |
| 10:35.58 | hume | hi... I burn debian cds for installation, testing and stable, but they won't boot. Anyone knows about this? |
| 10:36.08 | blondie | you burnt them the wrong way |
| 10:36.17 | webmonkey | Gnea: earlier I was saving a file across NFS, and Gimp just froze, my workstation locked up so I rebooted, and ever since the server has been unreachable, yet internet is still working across the network strangely |
| 10:36.17 | Gnea | hume: what did you use to burn with? |
| 10:36.37 | Gnea | !nfs |
| 10:36.37 | dpkg | from memory, nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs', or http://linuxslut.net/guides/nfs.php |
| 10:36.50 | Gnea | i also like 'Not Fucking Safe!' |
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| 10:36.59 | blondie | nfs works fine for me |
| 10:37.05 | hume | Gnea, k3b and arson - have burnt some 10 cds now, netinst and iso binary 1 and businesscard |
| 10:37.06 | blondie | what a load of pebkac |
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| 10:37.14 | webmonkey | i like using nfs |
| 10:37.20 | Gnea | hume: and they all booted? |
| 10:37.33 | hume | Gnea, none booted |
| 10:37.49 | Gnea | webmonkey: if you can figure out how to keep it from impaling itself, cool |
| 10:37.53 | blondie | did you burn them properly as ISOs are meant to be burned? |
| 10:38.03 | g333k | Gnea, add this line? |
| 10:38.05 | webmonkey | Gnea: well I never had any problems with it until now |
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| 10:38.11 | Gnea | g333k: on the command line |
| 10:38.20 | Gnea | g333k: then try to lpr <file> |
| 10:38.22 | hume | Gnea, the files seem to be there on inspection, just wont boot, boot process just hangs on several machines I try with |
| 10:38.35 | webmonkey | I dont think this is an nfs problem, since i cant even ping the server |
| 10:38.36 | g333k | Gnea, it works but with ' not with ` |
| 10:38.43 | webmonkey | I think maybe my firewall has gone down? |
| 10:38.50 | Gnea | g333k: right. |
| 10:39.07 | Gnea | webmonkey: what leads you to believe that? |
| 10:39.20 | wlwireless | Eulex: when i install libapache2-mod-php4, apt wants to remove apache2-mpm-worker. is that ok? |
| 10:39.23 | webmonkey | Gnea: well I cant ping the server, and no services are reachable |
| 10:39.53 | g333k | Gnea, Ok do I have to restart something before to try? |
| 10:40.25 | webmonkey | brb gonna hook up kb and monitor |
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| 10:41.22 | Gnea | g333k: naw |
| 10:41.45 | hume | Gnea, any ideas? |
| 10:41.58 | raf256 | where to put a link to init.d that should be started when system is fully running? |
| 10:42.01 | raf256 | rc3? rc4 ? |
| 10:42.06 | loiic | is there an easy and clean way to configure netfilter on sarge, ie. have the /etc/init.d skel script created etc, or should it be a manual script hacking session? |
| 10:42.12 | wlwireless | Maulkin: when i install libapache2-mod-php4, apt wants to remove apache2-mpm-worker. is that ok? |
| 10:42.20 | Eulex | wlwireless, yeah, libapache2-mod-php4 needs apache2-mpm-prefork. |
| 10:42.20 | Gnea | raf256: man update-rc.d |
| 10:42.33 | wlwireless | Eulex: thks. |
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| 10:42.42 | BertZ | hi again |
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| 10:42.57 | Eulex | wlwireless, do apt-cache show apache2-mpm-worker and apt-cache show apache2-mpm-prefork to see the differences between them |
| 10:43.01 | Gnea | loiic: hacking the script would be good enough |
| 10:43.05 | g333k | Gnea, nothing |
| 10:43.21 | BertZ | well , I booted with knoppix. But when I chroot into my system, I'm unable to access the network. It is the first time I use chroot. Is some specific network options to pass plz ? |
| 10:43.31 | g333k | Gnea, lpq : "Error: loop in printcap- hp2175@gaf1.gaf -> hp2175@gaf1.gaf" |
| 10:43.41 | wlwireless | Eulex: maybe another time. the installation also enable the module. |
| 10:43.48 | loiic | yeah but i like when files are organized in the debian spirit and then i just adapt the script to my needs |
| 10:44.02 | Gnea | g333k: does hp-toolbox show any print jobs? |
| 10:44.24 | g333k | Gnea, nop |
| 10:44.35 | Gnea | g333k: ok, that's not hplip |
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| 10:45.09 | g333k | Gnea, I'm printing from openoffice now... |
| 10:46.08 | g333k | Gnea, and in the status tab, it shows me the printed job |
| 10:46.19 | Gnea | g333k: cat /etc/cups/printers.conf | grep DefaultPrinter | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/>//g' |
| 10:46.28 | BertZ | no idea please ? |
| 10:46.28 | raf256 | Gnea: it seems the manual is broken |
| 10:46.36 | Gnea | g333k: does the result of that match hp2175 |
| 10:46.43 | raf256 | no wait, disregard taht =) |
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| 10:46.47 | g333k | Gnea, hp2175 |
| 10:46.52 | Gnea | raf256: works fine here ;) |
| 10:46.53 | BertZ | ok |
| 10:47.01 | BertZ | I apologize |
| 10:47.09 | raf256 | Gnea: I upgraded a bit distcc to be in a chroot |
| 10:47.13 | BertZ | I have the network |
| 10:47.24 | Gnea | !knoppix |
| 10:47.24 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 10:47.27 | BertZ | but ifconfig is unable to show me interfaces :) |
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| 10:47.30 | raf256 | Gnea: perhaps I should make a debian package out of it? my addition is the instaltion script that calls makejail, and porper startup script |
| 10:48.08 | g333k | Gnea, yes it matchs |
| 10:48.16 | Gnea | raf256: probably wouldn't be a bad idea. hrm, so that still automatically controls all compilation? |
| 10:48.45 | raf256 | Gnea: hmm? "controls all compilation"? |
| 10:49.06 | Gnea | g333k: ok, try it like this: alias lpr='lpr -P hp2175' |
| 10:49.31 | Gnea | raf256: yeah, like whenever you type 'make', distcc is the compiler that's used to compile whatever |
| 10:49.36 | raf256 | Gnea: my distcc-chrooted would be a pack that depends on distcc and makejail, and will just call makejail and then install proper init.d script. btw, there is a problem - makejail is lengthy so the installation might take 10-15 minutes, how to solve it? |
| 10:50.07 | g333k | Gnea, nothing... Are you sure my printcap is ok? |
| 10:50.20 | Gnea | raf256: what causes makejail to consume so much space? it's setting aside it's own swap? |
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| 10:50.59 | Gnea | g333k: well, i can see some non-english things there, but that shouldn't matter = it's still refering to the printer... hp-toolbox can proper diagnose what's wrong with it |
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| 10:51.04 | webmonkey | hi |
| 10:51.17 | Gnea | g333k: and the entry *should* point to the hp:/ entry |
| 10:51.36 | Gnea | g333k: via localhost |
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| 10:52.23 | Gnea | PRINTER_NAME|Info name:rm=localhost;rp=DefaultPrinter name: |
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| 10:54.44 | Gnea | g333k: does your firewall restrict lan traffic somehow? |
| 10:55.06 | g333k | Gnea, I dont think I have a firewall enabled |
| 10:55.32 | Gnea | g333k: any windows machines? |
| 10:55.48 | Hoxzer | lol |
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| 10:55.50 | Hoxzer | gcc got stuck too |
| 10:56.07 | g333k | Gnea, I'm in debian, and the printer is connected directly to my PC |
| 10:56.36 | Gnea | g333k: unstable, right? |
| 10:56.57 | g333k | Gnea, etch |
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| 10:57.01 | g333k | testing |
| 10:57.09 | Sylvio-CO | hi |
| 10:57.12 | cusco | hi |
| 10:57.15 | Gnea | i don't follow testing |
| 10:57.28 | loiic | actually what is the risk running a server without a firewall, i dont see why an opened port with nothing listening behind is dangerous |
| 10:57.38 | g333k | :o |
| 10:57.54 | g333k | Gnea, so maybe debian is the problem? |
| 10:57.54 | Gnea | loiic: bees nest? ;) |
| 10:58.04 | cusco | loiic: it is only dangerous if it is actually listening and you don't know |
| 10:58.21 | Gnea | g333k: it's more like a generator that allows things to happen within a containment field |
| 10:58.24 | cusco | or you think its a web server but is more then that |
| 10:58.31 | Sylvio-CO | someone know a good and easy way to clone a linux system drive on a second hard drive to have a rescue hard disk ? |
| 10:58.46 | Blissex | Sylvio-CO: yes. |
| 10:58.48 | cusco | dd |
| 10:58.58 | g333k | Gnea, so you use stable |
| 10:59.05 | loiic | like many script i see opens port 50000:50050 open for passive ftp, therefore leaving 50 opened port with nothing listening behind |
| 10:59.05 | Blissex | cusco: thats not wjat he asked :-) |
| 10:59.05 | Gnea | Sylvio-CO: are both hard drives identical? |
| 10:59.11 | Sylvio-CO | no |
| 10:59.19 | loiic | so if 50 port are left opened, what is the matter of leaving all of them opened |
| 10:59.20 | Gnea | g333k: in some situations |
| 10:59.33 | Sylvio-CO | but I just have some gigs (just the debian system and it configuration) |
| 10:59.33 | PumpkinPie | its too late to worry about a firewall if theres a port open and you dont know it |
| 10:59.34 | ktwilight | open or filtered? |
| 11:00.02 | loiic | well, -j ACCEPT to iptables, not sure if that is called open or filtered |
| 11:00.23 | ktwilight | not sure either. but i find out 'bout the difference from nmap... |
| 11:00.42 | ktwilight | i guess port-knocking would be the alternative to leave a wide range of ports open. :) |
| 11:00.42 | Gnea | loiic: if someone jumped onto your car and tried to mount a flare on it, would you want that fucker thrown right off or wait for it to burn? :) |
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| 11:01.51 | loiic | Gnea: humm, that the typical kind of example all the site on internet use to demonstrate why we absolutely need a firewall |
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| 11:01.59 | ktwilight | besides, portsentry works well with blocking port scanners. so i don't really see a problem. |
| 11:02.15 | loiic | but none of them show how weak would be a host running without |
| 11:02.36 | g333k | Gnea, I cannot print from hp-print either |
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| 11:03.07 | loiic | like if my port 4405 is left open, or is filtered by iptables, how having it open could be dangerous |
| 11:03.47 | ktwilight | depends, if that port is used for ftp. and they know which ftp server you use, they could exploit that. |
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| 11:04.09 | ktwilight | but if nothing comes up on what the port is used for, and with security patches, i doubt it can do any harm...? |
| 11:04.42 | Gnea | g333k: hardware problem |
| 11:04.47 | webmonkey | hi guys |
| 11:04.57 | PumpkinPie | do you have to run software that uses port 4405 if you're going to filter it? |
| 11:05.09 | webmonkey | Gnea: I had to reboot the system, couldnt even get to terminal...monitor wouldnt display |
| 11:05.18 | g333k | Gnea, its weird..... why am I able to print from openoffice? |
| 11:05.31 | Gnea | loiic: you'd like someone to hijack your printer and eat up all the paper+ink with porn? |
| 11:05.49 | loiic | basically all the script i find just block all the port, and leave open the one needed by the running services |
| 11:06.03 | Gnea | g333k: i'm not sure... perhaps openoffice is pointed to a former configuration template? |
| 11:06.04 | loiic | i understand how faulty services could be used for an exploit |
| 11:06.06 | cusco | Blissex: what did he ask then? |
| 11:06.23 | Blissex | cusco: if somebody knew the answer :-) |
| 11:06.23 | Gnea | webmonkey: recheck all connections |
| 11:06.29 | Gnea | webmonkey: try a power cycle |
| 11:06.34 | cusco | thats harsh! |
| 11:06.36 | PumpkinPie | why do you want to run a service if you're going to deny that service to communicate |
| 11:06.45 | Gnea | life's a bitch ;) |
| 11:06.46 | loiic | but not at all how those unused port that the firewall simply block, because that is all it does in most case, could be used as an exploit |
| 11:06.47 | ktwilight | for fun :) |
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| 11:07.16 | BertZ | yeess |
| 11:07.22 | BertZ | my asterisk is up again :) |
| 11:07.30 | BertZ | thx for support guys ;) |
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| 11:08.01 | dhuv | hello all |
| 11:08.32 | dhuv | I am running etch and gcc was upgraded to 4.1, I need to compile the madwifi module with gcc-4.0 but how do I specify which gcc I need to use? |
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| 11:08.58 | dhuv | running make compiles all the modules but when actually loading them dmes shows that the gcc version between the kernel and modules is off |
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| 11:09.18 | Ozux | Any complete Hw-To for apt-move? |
| 11:09.21 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 11:09.23 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:09.37 | tarzeau | dhuv: ls -la /usr/bin/gcc |
| 11:09.52 | Hexidigital_ | How can i change the default resolution to 1024 x 768 x 32 before installing? |
| 11:10.10 | dhuv | tarzeau: just point it to gcc-4.0 |
| 11:10.11 | dhuv | ? |
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| 11:10.19 | tarzeau | dhuv: yes |
| 11:10.37 | usmarine | Hexidigital_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 11:11.02 | gejo_deb | is configuring dnsbl in sendmail is a bad idea |
| 11:11.17 | dooglus | is there any way to install 'gaupol' in unstable? |
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| 11:11.31 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: i havent installed yet... isn't there a boot parameter? |
| 11:11.35 | wlt69 | what was the apt preference to set the default "release" when one wants to have testing and unstable in sources.list, so that those won't get installed by default (i really have forgotten) |
| 11:11.36 | dooglus | the installation fails, like this: "gaupol: Depends: python2.4-gtk2 (>= 2.8)". Can I "force" it somehow? |
| 11:11.50 | usmarine | Hexidigital_, no |
| 11:11.56 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: :( ok, thanks |
| 11:12.07 | usmarine | you want X to have that or you want the kernel boot to have that? |
| 11:12.18 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: kernel boot |
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| 11:12.32 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: i dont plan on using X much |
| 11:12.34 | usmarine | $EDITOR /boot/grub/menu... |
| 11:12.48 | usmarine | then in the kernel you use put: |
| 11:12.50 | usmarine | hmmm |
| 11:12.50 | clif4d | wlt69: sec |
| 11:12.53 | usmarine | vga=791 |
| 11:13.11 | clif4d | wlt69: APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 11:13.18 | Hexidigital_ | how did you get 791? (just out of curiosity) |
| 11:13.46 | wlt69 | clif4d: APT::Default-Release "stable"; then ;-) THANX |
| 11:14.02 | clif4d | wlt69: and that's in apt.conf :) |
| 11:14.22 | wlt69 | clif4d: or apt.conf.d ... |
| 11:14.44 | clif4d | Hexidigital_: it's documented in a kernel source doc file (something about fb*) |
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| 11:15.02 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: linux boot vga=791 worked ... perfect resolution. thank you |
| 11:15.03 | usmarine | Hexidigital_, i know it by heart |
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| 11:15.07 | clif4d | wlt69: well yeah, just don't put it in sources.list that's all ;) |
| 11:15.09 | usmarine | but there's a table |
| 11:15.11 | Hexidigital_ | clif4d:: i'll check it out, thank you |
| 11:15.20 | Zvpun | how can I delete search plugins in firefox? I have no root access. |
| 11:15.32 | wlt69 | clif4d: many thanx .... have checked 3 manpages without success ... |
| 11:15.36 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: oh, i thought it was math related... if i knew that, i would've googled differently |
| 11:16.22 | clif4d | Hexidigital_: in my case usr/src/linux-2.6.17/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
| 11:16.41 | aidan | how do I make my UTF-8 documents display properly in VIM? |
| 11:16.43 | Hexidigital_ | clif4d:: thanks |
| 11:17.00 | usmarine | Hexidigital_, http://hacks.oreilly.com/pub/h/3124 |
| 11:17.03 | aidan | I tried :set encoding=utf-8 but they are still ugly. Is my terminal interfering? my putty? |
| 11:17.09 | Zvpun | adian: set LANG=foo_FOO.utf8 |
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| 11:17.17 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: thanks |
| 11:17.30 | Zvpun | aidan: make sure you have unicode fonts installed |
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| 11:18.00 | aidan | Zvpun: what package are they in? |
| 11:18.48 | Zvpun | aidan: I dont know, I think the whole font thing is quite complicated. try apt-cache search foo |
| 11:19.05 | Gnea | !choose |
| 11:19.06 | dpkg | if you want to choose between a preferred branch of debian while maintaining 'stable', 'testing', 'frozen' or 'unstable' in your sources.list, add the following to your /etc/apt/apt.conf file: APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 11:20.29 | aidan | hrm |
| 11:20.40 | aidan | how can I search a file for a specific character, say U+02BB? |
| 11:21.07 | aidan | (in vim) |
| 11:21.18 | Gnea | !utf-8 |
| 11:21.19 | dpkg | i heard utf-8 is Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international characterset range of Unicode. See bug #214254 and http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html, or And try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). Read /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian to fix garbled man ... |
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| 11:22.39 | aidan | ah, how do I jump to a column in vim (sorry for the barrage of questions) |
| 11:22.45 | aidan | thanks, Gnea |
| 11:23.23 | Gnea | aidan: a line number? |
| 11:23.46 | aidan | line 993, column 1313 for example |
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| 11:25.07 | webmonkey | hi |
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| 11:25.16 | Gnea | aidan: have you been through vimtutor? |
| 11:25.38 | webmonkey | anyone know why i cant mount my nfs? im getting RPC: connection refused |
| 11:25.53 | blondie | webmonkey: sounds like the NFS server isn't running |
| 11:26.13 | dhuv | I am having some problems with the the kernel and modules so I decided to make menuconfig and check the debian config which comes with 2.6.15, it turns out that the kernel debugging option is set to on, is this normal? |
| 11:26.14 | webmonkey | damn |
| 11:26.33 | Gnea | webmonkey: check your /etc/hosts.deny |
| 11:26.36 | dhuv | I even moved the /boot/config... file to the /usr/src/linux/.config file |
| 11:26.44 | dhuv | to make sure that its the default |
| 11:26.48 | webmonkey | blondie: I just started both (wasnt sure if I'm running user or kernel, but neither will let me mount :-/ |
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| 11:27.04 | zamaliphe | how to create a new user using command line ? |
| 11:27.22 | Gnea | zamaliphe: adduser |
| 11:27.30 | blondie | webmonkey: on the NFS server? |
| 11:27.37 | zamaliphe | Gnea: thanks |
| 11:27.46 | aidan | Gnea: neat |
| 11:27.48 | Gnea | dhuv: if it's set by default, it's there for a reason |
| 11:27.50 | webmonkey | blondie: yes |
| 11:28.25 | blondie | webmonkey: did you start nfs-common? |
| 11:28.38 | blondie | you probably want nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server |
| 11:28.47 | blondie | on the server that is |
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| 11:29.03 | webmonkey | blondie: yes, started nfs-common as well |
| 11:29.05 | splash_ | http://www.r-36.net/FrOScon06/DSC00071.JPG <- nice photo or / |
| 11:29.37 | wizzomafizzo | Is there a good guide around for configuring my fonts for Sarge, I found one a while ago on some documentation site but it seemed extremely outdated. |
| 11:29.55 | Gnea | splash_: or what? |
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| 11:30.26 | wizzomafizzo | By configuring my fonts I mean in XFree btw. |
| 11:30.32 | Gnea | !ops splash_ is try to start a distro war |
| 11:30.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: gnea complains about: splash_ is try to start a distro war |
| 11:30.36 | webmonkey | really confused |
| 11:30.48 | Gnea | er, trying |
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| 11:31.33 | cp | hello guys. |
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| 11:32.16 | Gnea | !ops 04:29 < splash_> http://www.r-36.net/FrOScon06/DSC00071.JPG <- nice photo or / |
| 11:32.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: gnea complains about: 04:29 < splash_> http://www.r-36.net/FrOScon06/DSC00071.JPG <- nice photo or / |
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| 11:32.36 | splash_ | d |
| 11:32.49 | webmonkey | very strange |
| 11:32.50 | splash_ | hey cp :) |
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| 11:32.57 | cp | hi splash_ |
| 11:33.00 | Gnea | splash_: did mommy forget to tuck you in? :P |
| 11:33.01 | wizzomafizzo | What distro is on the left of the fire? |
| 11:33.02 | wlt69 | now that i added testing and unstable to my sources.list aptitude fails with "Dynamic MMap ran out of room". ideas? |
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| 11:33.20 | webmonkey | blondie: if i take down my firewall and try and mount nfs, client just hangs |
| 11:33.21 | azeem | splash_: please stay on topic |
| 11:33.32 | schemebow | I would like to use "bitstream vera sans mono" as is used in gnome-terminal in X applications. Thus I would like to know the corresponding representation in xlsfonts. |
| 11:33.47 | Gnea | it looks like a picture of his mom ;) |
| 11:33.49 | splash_ | no your ? :) |
| 11:33.52 | blondie | O.o |
| 11:34.35 | webmonkey | Mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection Refused |
| 11:34.36 | darkstego | wlt69: you need to adjust some setting, feed that error message to google and you will get a solution |
| 11:35.00 | wlt69 | darkstego: ok, google is always your friend |
| 11:35.01 | blondie | webmonkey: can you try from another machine? |
| 11:35.54 | webmonkey | no can do :( |
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| 11:36.17 | Llama | hi all |
| 11:36.40 | cp | i was just wondering why testing doesn't include "newlisp" which is a new dialect of lisp (http://www.newlisp.org) |
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| 11:37.06 | webmonkey | I think the port for NFS server must have changed |
| 11:37.15 | Llama | How could I feruse oser to delete subdirectory in it's home directory ? |
| 11:37.15 | webmonkey | how can I verify what port its listening on? |
| 11:37.35 | Gnea | netstat -nap | grep LISTEN |
| 11:37.40 | webmonkey | thanks |
| 11:37.47 | Myon | cp: probably because no one packaged it yet |
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| 11:38.53 | cp | ok, then i probably have to learn how to create *.deb-files. |
| 11:40.00 | Gnea | cp: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/ |
| 11:41.18 | Hexidigital_ | :( my GRUB install froze two times in a row... |
| 11:41.19 | cp | thanks |
| 11:41.57 | webmonkey | sheesh no change on the ports |
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| 11:46.20 | ivalladt | Can I know which mobo is in a machine I am logged in via ssh maybe looking at somewhere under /proc? |
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| 11:47.40 | Hexidigital_ | ok... third attempt to install GRUB to hd0, i get Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error. |
| 11:47.41 | Hexidigital_ | any ideas? |
| 11:48.03 | RvGaTe | you dare to reboot ? :P |
| 11:48.14 | Hexidigital_ | RvGaTe:: this is the third reboot |
| 11:48.24 | RvGaTe | maybe your bios has a boot sector protection |
| 11:48.24 | webmonkey | f'kin port had changed again |
| 11:48.33 | RvGaTe | at least mine has |
| 11:48.57 | Hexidigital_ | RvGaTe:: no... i've installed GRUB before.... several times |
| 11:49.09 | Hexidigital_ | would it be because i'm installing on a RAID0? |
| 11:49.20 | Hexidigital_ | (my first time installing a RAID array) |
| 11:50.15 | blondie | RAID 0 isn't RAID |
| 11:50.18 | blondie | it's AID |
| 11:50.18 | RvGaTe | i have no experience with raid, sorry |
| 11:50.40 | Hexidigital_ | blondie:: heh, true :) |
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| 11:51.05 | mcrea | hi |
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| 11:51.17 | mcrea | i write a command |
| 11:51.28 | mcrea | apt-get upgrade kde |
| 11:51.41 | mcrea | but i cant upgrade kde |
| 11:51.47 | mcrea | what can i do? |
| 11:51.56 | sep | Hexidigital_, unless you do raid1, i'd recomend using a 100MB /boot partition |
| 11:52.12 | sep | Hexidigital_, it just makes things so much easier. |
| 11:52.12 | Hexidigital_ | sep:: thanks... i was just on my way back to the partition screen |
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| 11:52.21 | Hexidigital_ | sep:: i appreciate it |
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| 11:55.13 | nuke | i just installed java onn my comp,where do i give it proxy addr information so it can connect to the net? |
| 11:55.14 | pitillo | mcrea, you can upgrade all the system, not a package. make first a update then a upgrade to see what are the newer versions |
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| 11:58.35 | nuke | in windoze there is a webstart proggie that comes with JRE, where cani find it here? |
| 11:58.54 | sep | /usr/win/javaws iirc |
| 11:59.04 | sep | /usr/bin/javaws |
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| 12:01.14 | RvGaTe | I go eaten |
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| 12:01.40 | nuke | ok...its javaws but the applet still isnt using the proxy it seems |
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| 12:02.38 | RvGaTe | jewish |
| 12:03.11 | azeem | RvGaTe: hrm? |
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| 12:03.51 | padi | hi all |
| 12:03.55 | webmonkey | f'kin port had changed again |
| 12:03.58 | webmonkey | hi |
| 12:04.21 | nuke | aah...had to fill in the porxy info in ControlPanel, not javaws |
| 12:04.39 | padi | since last apt-get upgrade, my xorg is gone and reinstalling it says /etc/X11/X was not executable, I checked that and it links to /usr/bin/Xorg which does not exist |
| 12:05.01 | Hexidigital_ | my server has 1.5 GB RAM, should i be okay not having a swap partition? |
| 12:05.10 | usmarine | Hexidigital_, no |
| 12:05.16 | padi | I use etch (testing) |
| 12:05.21 | usmarine | you should always have 1.5gb of ram |
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| 12:05.27 | usmarine | you should always have swap |
| 12:05.29 | Hexidigital_ | usmarine:: can you recommend a min swap? |
| 12:05.43 | nuke | Hexidigital_ :100mb should be more than enough for you |
| 12:05.43 | usmarine | at the beggining of the disk is possible |
| 12:05.47 | superlinux | !kismet |
| 12:05.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, kismet is a wireless sniffer, http://www.kismetwireless.net. kismet will not work with ndiswrapper and configuring it is somewhat painful, the kismet docs are very good and should be read before going to #kismet asking questions |
| 12:05.57 | Hexidigital_ | nuke:: thx |
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| 12:06.39 | webmonkey | theres a really bad smell around here |
| 12:06.52 | usmarine | webmonkey, shut your mouth then |
| 12:07.12 | padi | I'm thankful for any hints |
| 12:07.24 | tarzeau | peterS: can you tell me the debconf6 urls again please with photos etc? |
| 12:07.35 | padi | I'm thankful for any hints |
| 12:07.43 | usmarine | padi, try purging and reinstall |
| 12:07.53 | padi | usmarine ok |
| 12:08.14 | peterS | tarzeau: http://p12n.org/cgi/dc6group/index for the CGI, http://p12n.org/dc6group/ for the static files |
| 12:08.31 | webmonkey | what does: RPC: Program not registered' mean? |
| 12:08.39 | blondie | webmonkey: install portmap iirc |
| 12:08.50 | webmonkey | sheesh |
| 12:08.55 | webmonkey | what the hell is going on |
| 12:09.00 | webmonkey | i have portmap installed |
| 12:09.25 | padi | usmarine, same again: X is not executable, that Xorg binary in /usr/bin/ has it moved some other place?? |
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| 12:11.49 | webmonkey | how do i update my grub so i can use a newly installed kernel? Im getting kernel panic when I reboot |
| 12:12.14 | eastwood | do u have 2 kernels? |
| 12:12.18 | webmonkey | yes |
| 12:12.25 | eastwood | then boot it |
| 12:12.39 | webmonkey | when i try it locks and says kernel panic |
| 12:12.48 | eastwood | then boot the other 1 |
| 12:12.56 | webmonkey | i dont want to boot the other 1 |
| 12:13.00 | webmonkey | i want to boot the new one |
| 12:13.15 | eastwood | that's the only way to fix grub |
| 12:13.21 | eastwood | or using the editor directly |
| 12:13.29 | eastwood | or doing chroot with a livecd |
| 12:13.30 | webmonkey | the problem isnt with grub |
| 12:13.38 | peterS | tarzeau: the static jpegs were generated using 'convert -crop 120x120+$((x-60))+$((y-60)) -quality 50', if I remember correctly, derived from the original jpeg (the 3474-pixel one), and where $x and $y are taken from coords.txt |
| 12:13.44 | webmonkey | its something i have forgot to do with the new kernel I think |
| 12:13.55 | peterS | tarzeau: so you can regenerate them yourself at 128x128 if you want, easily enough |
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| 12:14.02 | eastwood | padi, that does apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg does? |
| 12:14.17 | eastwood | webmonkey, hit "e" in the init screen |
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| 12:14.48 | N00B | "e" is for edit^^ |
| 12:14.50 | Tenkawa | Anyone seen a good howto out there how to build a usb flash drive debian installer? |
| 12:14.53 | sep | webmonkey, do you use kernel-images ? did you reacreate your initrd, did you put the correct root in mkinitrd.conf ? |
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| 12:15.07 | Tenkawa | or is there a official image for flash drives already? |
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| 12:15.48 | peterS | Tenkawa: yes there is, look for the 'hd media' installer image on the main site |
| 12:15.59 | padi | eastwood it works, now I just get the error, that modules radeon and v41 can't be loaded.. modprobe them? |
| 12:16.06 | Tenkawa | peterS: cool. looking now |
| 12:16.11 | eastwood | if they exist yes |
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| 12:16.26 | peterS | not v41, v4l. it means video4linux |
| 12:16.48 | N00B | lol |
| 12:17.09 | padi | peterS: ah, ok eastwood: i can modprobe radeon but the module seem still missing |
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| 12:17.46 | tarzeau | peterS: thanks i've made a note... could you generate them in a directory with the email address fo the maintainer? |
| 12:18.20 | tarzeau | peterS: http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/photos/ |
| 12:18.47 | peterS | tarzeau: I don't have that information. the real names were entered via the web form (well, I entered about 80 of them myself), so email addresses would have to be added manually |
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| 12:18.53 | padi | hm, the name of the os ati driver is still radeon isn't it? :) |
| 12:19.02 | tarzeau | peterS: i have a script |
| 12:19.14 | tarzeau | peterS: so the numbers are fine, but could you make them 128x128? |
| 12:19.20 | pipeline | padi: You use the same XF86 driver whether or not you have the kernel module loaded. |
| 12:19.40 | eastwood | padi, xorg is looking for the modules in the right place |
| 12:19.51 | eastwood | or the module isnt loaded at all |
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| 12:19.58 | peterS | tarzeau: I can run 'convert' in a loop, sure, the same way I just described |
| 12:20.05 | Tenkawa | peterS: wow.. only a 7.9 meg image |
| 12:20.10 | Tenkawa | only net install eh? |
| 12:20.22 | padi | pipeline: eastwood: the module radeon is loaded, still the (EE) module not found and device not detected |
| 12:20.24 | peterS | Tenkawa: I think that's right |
| 12:20.35 | Tenkawa | oh well.. |
| 12:20.37 | Tenkawa | its a start |
| 12:20.37 | padi | xorg says: module does not exist |
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| 12:20.47 | Tenkawa | just not too keen on wasting a 512 meg stick for a netinstall |
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| 12:21.16 | blondie | Tenkawa: memory sticks are rewritable you know? |
| 12:21.30 | Tenkawa | blondie: yeah.. ubt I wanted to make it permanent |
| 12:21.33 | Tenkawa | er but |
| 12:21.43 | Tenkawa | it was going to be my mass installer |
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| 12:22.03 | Tenkawa | I guess I could try to dig up an old 32 meg unit |
| 12:22.08 | Tenkawa | that should be easy |
| 12:22.21 | N00B | Tenkawa, why don't you just download the normal cd or dvd installer ? |
| 12:22.25 | Tenkawa | or maybe even a 128 |
| 12:22.37 | Tenkawa | N00B: 3 of the machines I use dont have a cdrom |
| 12:22.43 | N00B | oh |
| 12:22.43 | Tenkawa | heh |
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| 12:22.52 | Tenkawa | or floppy for that matter |
| 12:22.52 | Tenkawa | :) |
| 12:22.57 | N00B | and they have usb ? ^^ |
| 12:23.01 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 12:23.06 | N00B | LOL |
| 12:23.07 | peterS | buy a USB floppy drive (: |
| 12:23.19 | eastwood | who uses floppys anyway |
| 12:23.25 | Tenkawa | nah. I'll just get a smaller usb stick |
| 12:23.37 | Tenkawa | I'll use this one for actual real data storage I guess |
| 12:23.37 | eastwood | i believe an debian iso runs from a pen |
| 12:23.41 | padi | lsmod -> radeon |
| 12:23.45 | Tenkawa | eastwood: thats kinda what I thought |
| 12:23.47 | peterS | eastwood: that's what we're talking about, yes |
| 12:23.48 | N00B | nah, he should just buy one CD-ROM drive, and then use it on every machine |
| 12:23.50 | padi | *sigh |
| 12:24.06 | peterS | well, not an iso exactly |
| 12:24.07 | eastwood | so extract the iso into it and tell bios to run from the usb |
| 12:24.09 | dhuv | I am trying to compile a kernel the debian way, I configured the kernel with make menuconfig, then when I did kakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.060628 kernel_image, it started to ask me questions about configuring the kernel |
| 12:24.11 | eastwood | boot* |
| 12:24.14 | dhuv | like make config asks |
| 12:24.16 | Tenkawa | eastwood: excellent thought |
| 12:24.28 | Tenkawa | I could use the usb image and integrate it with the iso contents |
| 12:24.29 | dhuv | did I miss something? |
| 12:24.31 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 12:24.34 | Tenkawa | nice idea |
| 12:24.39 | peterS | Tenkawa: yes possibly. you may have to fiddle with filesystem resizing. |
| 12:25.05 | Tenkawa | peterS: yeah.. no biggie there |
| 12:25.13 | eastwood | padi, grep EE /var/log/X ... |
| 12:25.17 | perlmonkey | sheesh |
| 12:25.22 | eastwood | error or something |
| 12:25.25 | perlmonkey | im mounted in nfs now, but X wont start |
| 12:25.28 | peterS | Tenkawa: I was going to suggest the iso image contents thing but I didn't want to have to explain how to resize a filesystem, so. |
| 12:25.36 | Tenkawa | hehe |
| 12:25.38 | Tenkawa | no worries |
| 12:25.44 | perlmonkey | wtf is going on! |
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| 12:25.59 | perlmonkey | this is doing my head in, half a day wasted on this |
| 12:26.09 | padi | eastwood: I got it, had to install xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 12:26.10 | Tenkawa | I had to hack a lot of filesystem manipulation to get one of my arm devices to install |
| 12:26.17 | padi | eastwood: is this a new style of doing it?.. |
| 12:26.28 | N00B | question: i need debian for a server wchich should have apache, proftpd, irc-server and ssh , it would be best for me to use the latest stable release, wouldn't it? |
| 12:26.43 | Tenkawa | N00B: define "best" |
| 12:26.49 | eastwood | padi, xorg is modular now |
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| 12:26.58 | blondie | N00B: yes, use stable |
| 12:26.58 | padi | eastwood: well, no one told me |
| 12:27.02 | eastwood | but that driver might not have 3d accelaration |
| 12:27.03 | Tenkawa | stable is going to be stable and well maintained however msy not be most feature current |
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| 12:27.16 | padi | eastwood: what else could I do? |
| 12:27.18 | sonasks | i have some group with guid=10 |
| 12:27.21 | sonasks | how to remove it ? |
| 12:27.25 | Tenkawa | howeve it "should" be mostly security up to date as long as you are pulling in changes from security |
| 12:27.30 | sonasks | i mean GID=110 |
| 12:27.34 | padi | xorg obviously doesn't see my radeon module |
| 12:27.40 | padi | the one in the kernel |
| 12:27.44 | eastwood | groupdel ? |
| 12:27.45 | peterS | sonasks: either delgroup or vigr |
| 12:27.48 | godless | hi, cdebootstrap seems to fail lately on findutils ... is there a workaround ? |
| 12:27.50 | N00B | is a netinstall enough? |
| 12:28.01 | Tenkawa | N00B: good example of where it burns me is stable is so far behind on Sqlite |
| 12:28.06 | blondie | N00B: enough for what? |
| 12:28.07 | Tenkawa | which is integral to my apps |
| 12:28.12 | sonasks | but i don`t know the name of the goup |
| 12:28.13 | eastwood | padi, that will work |
| 12:28.17 | sonasks | i only have guid |
| 12:28.19 | N00B | enough for server |
| 12:28.21 | eastwood | but u wont have 3d acceleration |
| 12:28.33 | Hoxzer | I need SOME WORK |
| 12:28.55 | Tenkawa | hey. any of you running any of the new generation mini-itx or nano-itx boards? |
| 12:28.57 | padi | eastwood: I don't need it atm, but I'd be happy to have it sooner or later. But you mean it's an ATI thing not having 3dacc? |
| 12:29.02 | Tenkawa | pondering replacing my v10000 |
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| 12:29.19 | Hexidigital_ | !nvidia |
| 12:29.19 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 12:29.22 | eastwood | padi, the drivers from ati will |
| 12:29.40 | eastwood | but the 1s from xorg i dont think so |
| 12:29.46 | eastwood | anyways, i ate ati |
| 12:29.47 | padi | well well I'll go try it out, bye all and thanks for the help (eastwood: no proprietary driver for me) |
| 12:29.49 | eastwood | hate* |
| 12:30.03 | Tenkawa | thanks all |
| 12:30.05 | padi | :) yeah, can't change my laptop's graphic card ;) |
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| 12:30.08 | padi | bye |
| 12:30.09 | eastwood | well, i want to play once in a while |
| 12:30.31 | perlmonkey | why the fuck do all my rpc ports keep changing??! |
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| 12:34.06 | padi | hm, this is very messed up .. |
| 12:34.18 | perlmonkey | tell me about it |
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| 12:34.34 | perlmonkey | how can i stop my rpc ports from changing every time the services are restarted? |
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| 12:34.58 | eastwood | padi, O_o |
| 12:35.03 | N00B | blondie , could the netinstall cd be enough for a server? i can install the rest of the pkgs i need using apt-get anyway |
| 12:35.26 | nuke | perlmonkey : i dont htink you can fix the ports but there are scripts to scan the ports and open then on a firewall on startup everytime |
| 12:36.16 | sep | N00B, netinstall is perfect for a server. |
| 12:36.31 | padi | eastwood: the log doesn't tell me a lot about radeon, but doing like: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE) gives me: |
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| 12:36.51 | N00B | thx sep |
| 12:36.57 | sonasks | how do i remove all the packages with names tsarting with ab ? |
| 12:36.57 | tarzeau | what about backports.org backports that need stuff to work that isn't backported? i'd so like to lart those backporters... i mean how did they test? |
| 12:36.59 | eastwood | padi, grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 12:37.02 | eastwood | is enough :P |
| 12:37.03 | sonasks | apt-get remove ab* |
| 12:37.03 | roby | marillat?ŒŠ |
| 12:37.06 | peterS | tarzeau: http://p12n.org/dc6group/for_tarzeau.tar.gz |
| 12:37.07 | padi | 1. agp failed to initialise, disabling dri |
| 12:37.11 | tarzeau | they backported the deps too, but why didn't they put it to backports as well? |
| 12:37.16 | tarzeau | peterS: sweet, thanks alot! |
| 12:37.34 | peterS | tarzeau: let me know if it's what you want |
| 12:37.34 | eastwood | padi, have u got udev ? |
| 12:37.34 | padi | 2. xf86OpenSerial: cannot open device /dev/psaux |
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| 12:37.35 | padi | eastwood: yes |
| 12:37.54 | perlmonkey | when I do rpcinfo -p I get all my services showing as running three versions on both udp and tcp |
| 12:38.03 | perlmonkey | is that normal? |
| 12:38.10 | eastwood | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --priority=low |
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| 12:38.46 | peterS | perlmonkey: not all services. NFS-related services usually offer all those things, though |
| 12:38.52 | perlmonkey | oh |
| 12:39.06 | peterS | perlmonkey: other sunrpc services might offer who knows what versions, and might only do UDP or only TCP |
| 12:39.17 | perlmonkey | peterS: any idea why the ports keep changing constantly when the progs are restarted? |
| 12:39.25 | perlmonkey | its extremely annoying for managing a firewall |
| 12:39.43 | sonasks | how to pass a wildcard like * to dpkg ? |
| 12:39.44 | peterS | perlmonkey: because that's how sunrpc works. you don't assume a fixed port, you ask the portmapper (port 111) where the service lives. just like rpcinfo -p does. |
| 12:39.50 | sonasks | how to pass a wildcard like * to dpkg ? |
| 12:40.07 | perlmonkey | peterS: this seriously sux tho and it doesnt make any sense |
| 12:40.11 | tarzeau | sonasks: quote it right? |
| 12:40.17 | tarzeau | sonasks: what do you want to do? |
| 12:40.19 | sonasks | ok, when i do |
| 12:40.22 | perlmonkey | how can you guard those ports in firewall if they keep changing? |
| 12:40.26 | sonasks | dpkg -p ab* |
| 12:40.29 | peterS | perlmonkey: only if you think in terms of trying to poke holes in firewalls. for other purposes it's very nice to have dynamic port numbers |
| 12:40.35 | sonasks | returns error in syntax |
| 12:40.41 | perlmonkey | :-/ |
| 12:40.49 | tarzeau | sonasks: 'ab*' ? |
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| 12:41.16 | padi | brb |
| 12:41.17 | peterS | perlmonkey: it's possible for a sunrpc app to request a specific fixed port - nfsd often requests 2049 for reasons of "arcane tradition" for example. other daemons usually have a way to tell them to ask for a particular port |
| 12:41.32 | sonasks | package 'ab*' is not available |
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| 12:41.54 | peterS | perlmonkey: if the portmapper doesn't want to honor this request (i.e. the port isn't available or whatever) it doesn't have to. but in practice you can get fixed ports if you track down how to do it for each daemon |
| 12:42.09 | peterS | perlmonkey: there are HOWTO web pages out there about this, google a bit and you'll find 'em |
| 12:42.32 | dhuv | I have a problem, I have a debian kernel 2.6.15 that is compiled with gcc-4.0, I currently have gcc-4.1 and have to compile modules for this kernel |
| 12:42.36 | perlmonkey | ok thanks pete |
| 12:42.37 | dhuv | how can I do this? |
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| 12:43.01 | Hoxzer | have you guys notice how do womens hate nerd staring at them |
| 12:43.11 | Hexidigital_ | heh |
| 12:43.17 | Hoxzer | like I dont understand that :E |
| 12:43.21 | Hoxzer | why? why? |
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| 12:43.46 | Hoxzer | ok, I think how would I fuck them if I could |
| 12:43.50 | Hoxzer | but I dont do it aloud |
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| 12:44.16 | Hoxzer | anyway then they quicly look at me ò_ó style like angry mother does |
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| 12:44.44 | Hoxzer | and I go ó_ò like scared dog |
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| 12:45.13 | peterS | Hoxzer: you're offtopic here. the answer is that you need to figure out for yourself how not to freak women out. it's not something that can be taught, particularly over irc. |
| 12:45.18 | sonasks | jeeeesus, how to remove multiple packages ? |
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| 12:45.31 | peterS | sonasks: aptitude remove pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 |
| 12:45.32 | knt | When I try to enable DMA of my IDE disk via hdparm, my new kernel compains that "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted". Does anybody have an idea about this? |
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| 12:45.42 | Hoxzer | peterS: :D |
| 12:46.04 | berkes | anyone using ispconfig? |
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| 12:46.34 | peterS | knt: on modern kernels it's very rarely necessary to set DMA parameters yourself. you should instead make sure you are using the correct IDE driver for your hardware, and this will usually solve the problem for you |
| 12:46.35 | ricky_clarkson | !battery |
| 12:46.50 | ricky_clarkson | How can I see how much battery power is left? |
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| 12:48.34 | knt | peterS: IMHO, it uses generic IDE driver. (because, before I enabled it, it was giving kernel panic as cannot mount root fs on unknown-block.) |
| 12:49.04 | peterS | knt: you can usually do better than just using the generic driver. what IDE hardware do you have? (if you don't know, 'lspci | grep IDE') |
| 12:49.26 | knt | peterS: ST340016A, ATA DISK drive |
| 12:49.42 | peterS | knt: that's the disk drive, what is the controller chip? that's what I meant |
| 12:51.14 | knt | peterS: Just a minute, I need to install lspci... (Isn't there any manual way to learn it. AFAIK, lspci makes nothing special than reading /proc.) |
| 12:51.28 | ricky_clarkson | modprobe apm says "device not found". Any hints? |
| 12:51.41 | peterS | knt: lspci reads /proc but also knows how to make sense of all the numbers in /proc/bus/pci/* |
| 12:51.45 | peterS | knt: it's included in 'pciutils' |
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| 12:52.14 | knt | peterS: lspci|grep IDE says that: 0000:00:04.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) |
| 12:52.40 | peterS | knt: ok so that's the 'piix' kernel module. compile that into your kernel and you shouldn't have any problems |
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| 12:53.17 | peterS | knt: well, I mean, you shouldn't have any problems with IDE drivers and DMA. though with some kernels you may need the 'Use DMA by default if available' IDE config option too |
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| 12:53.55 | padi | hm, I have enough of debian now, everytime I upgrade, something breaks, trying out ubuntu now |
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| 12:54.24 | fireba11 | padi let me guess .. sid ? |
| 12:54.34 | knt | peterS: yes, you were right; I didn't enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX. (I enabled CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA already.) |
| 12:55.03 | peterS | knt: right, so do that. the piix driver is probably the most stable IDE driver linux has, since so _many_ people have Intel chipsets on their motherboards |
| 12:55.41 | knt | peterS: Should I disable generic IDE drivers now, or kernel is smart enough to chose the more specific driver? |
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| 12:56.05 | peterS | knt: either way. it should be smart enough. |
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| 12:56.15 | beerdeliveryguy | for some reason everytime i reboot the system it always does a file system check because "it didnt shut down cleanly" |
| 12:56.22 | blondie | grrr smart != clever ;) |
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| 12:56.23 | beerdeliveryguy | and the checks take FOREVER, any solution to fix this? |
| 12:56.29 | padi | fireba11: that would then be my fault, NO |
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| 12:56.51 | fireba11 | padi with sarge i never managed to break anythig with upgrading |
| 12:57.01 | padi | fireba11: lucky you |
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| 12:57.11 | knt | peterS: From CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX explanation: ... This allows the kernel to change PIO, DMA and UDMA speeds and to configure the chip to optimum performance. |
| 12:57.15 | knt | peterS: Thanks so much. |
| 12:57.18 | peterS | no problem |
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| 12:57.51 | peterS | knt: now for the bonus question, can you correctly pronounce the name of the original author, Andrzej Krzysztofowicz? |
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| 12:58.05 | fireba11 | padi not really .. its rare that something breaks for anyone as far as i can tell |
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| 12:58.13 | peterS | (author of the piix module, I mean) |
| 12:58.32 | knt | peterS: Must I answer correctly to boot without anymore problem? |
| 12:58.32 | peterS | and no, my z key is not stuck, he really has that many in his name |
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| 12:59.03 | peterS | knt: not really but I've always been fascinated by his name ever since I started following linux kernel development a lot of years ago (: |
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| 12:59.31 | padi | fireba11: I don't use sarge, comeon, no one uses kde 3.11 these days |
| 12:59.54 | peterS | 3.11? That would be KDE for Workgroups? |
| 13:00.00 | blondie | haha |
| 13:00.10 | blondie | people still use KDE? :0 |
| 13:00.16 | SerajewelKS | !beat blondie |
| 13:00.28 | blondie | harder baby |
| 13:00.33 | peterS | blondie: unfortunately it's not an original joke. someone else noticed that debian has 3.0 and 3.1 and figured the next debian release would be 3.11 for workgroups |
| 13:00.56 | blondie | :) |
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| 13:01.24 | is_null | anyone successfully installed ati radeon 9600 mobility please ? radeon and drm modules are correctly loaded, but fglrxinfo keeps showing mesa software rendering interface for opengl, i recompiled kernel tons of times and followed tons of tutorials on the web ... please anypne ? |
| 13:01.28 | is_null | *anyone ? |
| 13:01.41 | pipeline | is_null: Give up. |
| 13:01.47 | blondie | drm modules? no thanks |
| 13:01.48 | Hexidigital_ | is there a factoid for source lists? |
| 13:01.57 | SerajewelKS | !source |
| 13:01.58 | dpkg | source is probably To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 13:02.12 | pipeline | is_null: Either live without OpenGL, buy XiG (~$100) or buy a new laptop that has supported graphics. |
| 13:02.13 | Hexidigital_ | SerajewelKS:: i already tried that one |
| 13:02.14 | SerajewelKS | hmm... maybe, /msg dpkg listvalues source*list |
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| 13:02.24 | padi | is_null: no chance |
| 13:02.27 | Hexidigital_ | thsx SerajewelKS |
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| 13:02.33 | wols | Hi, I want to display some command's output on the inside my ssh screen session and also put it in a logfile. So I wantet to use /usr/bin/tee, however what is the "filename" of my stdout? |
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| 13:03.07 | blondie | wols: - ? |
| 13:03.08 | peterS | wols: just 'tee logfile' and it passes stdout to stdout |
| 13:03.13 | humbolt | what is sarges default kernel version? |
| 13:03.21 | padi | wols: hehe, that could become a bash.org quote :) |
| 13:03.22 | SerajewelKS | wols: stdout doesn't have a filename |
| 13:03.24 | peterS | humbolt: either 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 depending on what you installed it with |
| 13:03.28 | wols | thnks. didn't know that |
| 13:03.30 | is_null | padi, pipeline : why are you telling me this, haven't the poeple that wrote the tutorial made it to work ? |
| 13:03.33 | SerajewelKS | wols: man tee |
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| 13:03.54 | wols | saintiss: did that, but only read the first few lines.... :) |
| 13:04.04 | padi | is_null: I use the same card, opengl does not work here |
| 13:04.09 | SerajewelKS | wols: then the "first few lines" is all the command is writing |
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| 13:04.27 | is_null | padi: do you know why ? |
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| 13:06.14 | padi | is_null: no, but the ati-driver is still worked on |
| 13:06.30 | padi | never give up hope :) |
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| 13:07.11 | is_null | padi: what about r300 dri ? |
| 13:07.11 | SerajewelKS | or buy nvidia, and it will Just Work |
| 13:07.23 | Sedg | query; does anyone know a good itunes clone?, (so I can use my ipod) |
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| 13:07.55 | fourat | hello all |
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| 13:08.04 | padi | what about it? dri worked for me before I upgraded, now it's broke, well I anyway wanted a reason to check out ubuntu, now I have one :) |
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| 13:08.43 | fourat | i would like to add a new printer, i went to Kontrol Center, in printers, clicked Add, and then i can only add psudo printer and not a real printer |
| 13:10.05 | padi | fourat, do you use cups? localhost:631 :) |
| 13:10.26 | fourat | padi, cupsd ? |
| 13:10.42 | padi | cupsys, well, cupsd is the deamon |
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| 13:12.13 | raf256 | help |
| 13:12.23 | raf256 | suddenly OpenGL stopped from working, what the fuck? |
| 13:12.26 | blondie | please state the nature of the medical emergency |
| 13:12.30 | padi | raf256: lol |
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| 13:12.31 | raf256 | afair after upgrading X to 7 |
| 13:12.35 | padi | haha |
| 13:12.36 | raf256 | *xorg to 7 |
| 13:12.39 | raf256 | blondie: =) |
| 13:12.53 | SerajewelKS | raf256: what video driver |
| 13:12.56 | padi | raf256: ask fireba11, he knows, nothing breaks in debian |
| 13:12.58 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: nvidia |
| 13:13.06 | SerajewelKS | raf256: did you update your nvidia driver? |
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| 13:13.19 | SerajewelKS | raf256: are you using nv or the non-free nvidia? |
| 13:13.22 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: yes. otherwise X wouldnt start at all |
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| 13:13.31 | raf256 | I am using nvidia.com driver |
| 13:13.33 | raf256 | installed by hand |
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| 13:13.53 | SerajewelKS | raf256: gak, okay... you know there are debian packages of the nonfree driver, right? |
| 13:14.05 | raf256 | progrms report that there is no GLX extension on my display |
| 13:14.11 | fireba11 | padi raf256 i didn't say that nothing breaks, just taht it is , in my experience, pretty rare |
| 13:14.12 | knt | Has anybody ever tried to run a PCVC820K (Philips ToUcam II) webcam? |
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| 13:14.18 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: yeah but I always used nvidia.com and it worksd |
| 13:14.30 | raf256 | untill now |
| 13:14.34 | junix|work | does unstable have support for sata drives natively yet? |
| 13:14.39 | raf256 | testing's Xorg have working GLX? |
| 13:14.54 | SerajewelKS | raf256: please stop, we know you don't have GLX |
| 13:14.58 | fireba11 | !tell junix|work about sata |
| 13:15.11 | padi | fireba11: it's something about that update, it was the same in my case: updated xorg to 7.0 Well it's no wonder that structure changes and backwards compatibility is not given, BUT that could be stated somewhere! |
| 13:15.13 | raf256 | ok... so how can I fix it |
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| 13:15.22 | SerajewelKS | raf256: i am looking into it, the less chatter the better |
| 13:15.30 | peterS | knt: IDE driver behaving better? (cat /proc/ide/piix) |
| 13:15.51 | junix|work | fireba11: would i have to download a unstable snapshop? |
| 13:15.54 | junix|work | snapshot |
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| 13:16.13 | Arisu | hello |
| 13:16.20 | Arisu | i'm a debian girl ;) |
| 13:16.24 | knt | peterS: Yes, thanks so much again. |
| 13:16.28 | peterS | np |
| 13:16.32 | SerajewelKS | dammit, pdo is down? |
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| 13:16.51 | peterS | SerajewelKS: people, packages or planet? |
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| 13:17.03 | raf256 | debian have a planet now? |
| 13:17.13 | SerajewelKS | peterS: package search wasn't responding for a while |
| 13:17.14 | peterS | raf256: for quite awhile now, http://planet.debian.org |
| 13:17.19 | SerajewelKS | peterS: and still isn't... hmm |
| 13:17.30 | DaBlade | raf256: Well, Ubuntu has Universe and Multiverse so..why not? :P |
| 13:17.48 | raf256 | heh |
| 13:17.50 | SerajewelKS | well anyone know what package glxinfo is in? i seem to have lost it. |
| 13:18.11 | junix|work | fireba11: ...? |
| 13:18.17 | SerajewelKS | oh, on testing |
| 13:18.20 | peterS | SerajewelKS: rumor has it, the non-free fglrx package includes that |
| 13:18.34 | SerajewelKS | peterS: non-free? it used to be somewhere in the X.org packages. |
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| 13:18.53 | peterS | SerajewelKS: that's just rumor. I don't have glxinfo and I don't have fglrx. |
| 13:19.00 | SerajewelKS | apt-cache says mesa-utils has it... |
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| 13:19.29 | SerajewelKS | raf256: i can't see why you wouldn't have glx, unless you're not loading it with xorg.conf |
| 13:19.54 | SerajewelKS | raf256: grep glx /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 13:20.38 | tux2007 | hello... i've a trouble with bash... an example: bash: ./azureus: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 13:20.47 | SerajewelKS | tux2007: ls -l /bin/bash |
| 13:20.51 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17125 my xorg.conf ; also, I discovered that the group "video" is now done from the system... what happened? |
| 13:20.58 | raf256 | *gone |
| 13:21.06 | peterS | tux2007: usually that means the first line of your script has extra whitespace on it such as a ^M character |
| 13:21.13 | SerajewelKS | raf256: hmm, maybe a good reason to use debian packages? |
| 13:21.19 | cusco_ | what permissions should be given to user home dirs.. so apache can read but other users cant |
| 13:21.23 | cusco_ | :| |
| 13:21.31 | tux2007 | SerajewelKS, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 684724 2006-03-23 01:23 /bin/bash |
| 13:21.35 | peterS | tux2007: such as if you edited it with notepad.exe on windows, or something equally odd |
| 13:21.37 | SerajewelKS | raf256: what does this say: id; ls -l /dev/nvidia* |
| 13:21.42 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: damn :( I liked it the by-hand way... how to install nvidia using debian packages way? |
| 13:21.54 | SerajewelKS | !nvidia one-liner |
| 13:21.54 | dpkg | well, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 13:21.57 | raf256 | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 2006-06-27 22:45 /dev/nvidia0 |
| 13:21.57 | raf256 | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 255 2006-06-27 22:45 /dev/nvidiactl |
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| 13:22.08 | SerajewelKS | raf256: rrm... |
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| 13:22.59 | SerajewelKS | raf256: you can omit the dpkg-reconfigure of course and just change "nv" to "nvidia" in your xorg.conf |
| 13:23.08 | tux2007 | peterS, i've not edited in windows... do you think that it could be a question of charsets? |
| 13:23.14 | tux2007 | SerajewelKS, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 684724 2006-03-23 01:23 /bin/bash |
| 13:23.23 | SerajewelKS | raf256: except of course that you're not using nv |
| 13:23.28 | peterS | tux2007: the first line of the script should say: #!/bin/bash or #! /bin/bash |
| 13:23.33 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: my glxinfo http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17126 |
| 13:23.41 | SerajewelKS | tux2007: weird |
| 13:23.44 | peterS | tux2007: if it has any characters after that, such as ^M, that would break it |
| 13:23.49 | nweman | trying to setup mysql 5.0. the doc mentioned about a .my.cnf file in the home dir but it is not there. should i create it? |
| 13:24.05 | SerajewelKS | raf256: you're running glxinfo as root? |
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| 13:24.27 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 13:24.40 | SerajewelKS | raf256: ...why? |
| 13:24.41 | tux2007 | peterS, it's #!/bin/bash |
| 13:24.44 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: why not? |
| 13:24.54 | SerajewelKS | raf256: that means you're running X as root, no? |
| 13:24.55 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: it is same when as usewr |
| 13:25.01 | Coweater | no, the question is certainly "why?" |
| 13:25.02 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: I run X as normal user |
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| 13:25.22 | peterS | tux2007: so what does 'ldd /bin/bash' say? I mean does it print out the 4 libraries plus ld-linux.so.2? |
| 13:25.24 | SerajewelKS | raf256: then glxinfo as root couldn't talk to the X server without DISPLAY/XAUTHORITY environment variables |
| 13:25.47 | raf256 | SerajewelKS: I did su from user... anyway, when I run glxinfo normally, it gaves same (wrong) result |
| 13:25.58 | Fox | nweman: did you install the debian package or the sources ? |
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| 13:26.13 | nweman | Fox: debian package |
| 13:26.14 | tux2007 | peterS, yes |
| 13:26.15 | raf256 | btw, nvidia-settings works fine (except - it also reports no GLX, but things like monitor gamma work) |
| 13:26.28 | peterS | tux2007: so the script itself has +x permission too? |
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| 13:26.42 | Fox | nweman: then you have a default my.cnf in /etc/mysql/, the ~/.my.cnf is optionnal |
| 13:26.50 | tux2007 | peterS, yes |
| 13:26.52 | SerajewelKS | raf256: *shrug* dunno. works here (using debian packages). |
| 13:26.53 | peterS | tux2007: also, the filesystem that the script is sitting on, is it perhaps mounted with the 'noexec' mount option? |
| 13:27.10 | dayi2 | dont you know djbdns:( |
| 13:27.17 | nweman | Fox: so i should set root user in /etc/mysql? |
| 13:27.36 | Fox | nweman: are you talking about root password ? |
| 13:27.43 | tux2007 | peterS, /dev/sda1 /media/multimedia reiserfs rw,users,auto 0 0 |
| 13:27.44 | nweman | Fox: yeh |
| 13:27.45 | peterS | dayi2: we don't like djbware here, since dan bernstein doesn't allow us to distribute his software in debian main |
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| 13:28.12 | peterS | tux2007: 'users' might imply 'noexec', I would add a 'exec' to the mount options just in case. (or read 'man 8 mount') |
| 13:28.13 | dayi2 | peterS: do you suggest bind? |
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| 13:28.15 | Fox | nweman: type 'mysqladmin password the_mysql_root_password' and you're done |
| 13:28.27 | rhalff | Hi anyone know http://www.sagernotebook.com ? and know if there are similair companies like this ? |
| 13:28.30 | peterS | dayi2: I use bind9, I don't know what to suggest for others |
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| 13:29.04 | nweman | Fox: but i want it to stay after re-boot. will that work? |
| 13:29.06 | rhalff | e..g. cheaper :p |
| 13:29.22 | dayi2 | peterS:I cant find a step by step guide for it , I have tried some tutorial but they dont work:( do you know anyone? especially for sarge |
| 13:29.29 | zamaliphe | how to start the ssh and the apache at boot |
| 13:30.06 | Tassium | zamaliphe: Unless you've changed something, both those services will start automatically at boot |
| 13:30.06 | petemc | zamaliphe: that should be the default behaviour after they're installed |
| 13:30.10 | peterS | dayi2: I don't know of any offhand. you want the file /etc/bind/named.conf and named.conf.local |
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| 13:30.57 | zamaliphe | i have apache local compill |
| 13:31.01 | dayi2 | peterS:yes it can be useful |
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| 13:31.21 | zamaliphe | and OpenBSD Secure Shell server: |
| 13:32.41 | zamaliphe | i have compill the apache at /www |
| 13:32.44 | Fox | nweman: sure it will !! |
| 13:32.55 | cusco_ | zamaliphe: crontab @reboot |
| 13:33.01 | peterS | zamaliphe: debian provides perfectly good apache, apache2 and openssh packages. if you choose not to use them, you're on your own. for startup you want to provide a script in /etc/init.d/ with various links in /etc/rcN.d/ |
| 13:33.15 | nweman | Fox: thks a lot. |
| 13:33.35 | Fox | nweman: you're welcome |
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| 13:35.55 | nweman | Fox: i have installed phpmyadmin but it is not in the kde menu. how do i start using it? |
| 13:36.39 | tux2007 | peterS, every shell script that i try to run give me error of "permission denied" |
| 13:37.04 | Fox | nweman: phpmyadmin is a web UI, then start firefox and use the right URL from your installation |
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| 13:37.27 | tux2007 | (i've added exec in fstab partition line) |
| 13:37.28 | lawnchair | is tehre an eta for when etch will go stable ? |
| 13:37.34 | Tassium | lawnchair: When it's ready |
| 13:37.42 | lawnchair | Tassium, i take it it wont be ayear though yah? |
| 13:37.54 | nweman | Fox: i understand now. thks again. |
| 13:38.02 | lawnchair | Tassium, btw thats a rude answer |
| 13:38.04 | Fox | nweman: you're welcome again |
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| 13:38.24 | Tassium | lawnchair: I'm sorry you found it rude. It is, however, accurate. |
| 13:38.33 | lawnchair | Tassium, well obviously |
| 13:38.42 | lawnchair | Tassium, why are you so angry? |
| 13:39.20 | lawnchair | Tassium, i hope you cry tonite |
| 13:39.21 | Tassium | lawnchair: I'm not angry. From http://www.debian.org/releases/etch : As usual, the release goals and the release date are not going to be determined in advance. To put it simply, "Debian releases when it is time". |
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| 13:39.28 | azeem | lawnchair: please read the release updates on debian-devel-announce for more complete answers |
| 13:39.58 | davascript | is there a way that i can view the information that runs on boot time |
| 13:40.01 | davascript | does it log |
| 13:40.07 | davis | hello |
| 13:40.12 | Coweater | davascript: dmesg |
| 13:40.20 | Tassium | davascript: I think what you're looking for is the 'dmesg' command. Also, check the contents of /var/log/syslog |
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| 13:41.17 | davascript | dmesg boottime |
| 13:41.19 | davis | Why does debian unstable not modify the /etc/apache/httpd.conf file when it install bugzilla? I am reading the buzilla documentation and it says a <Directory> entry must be made for bugzilla. My setup works but it does not have the entry. Just curious. |
| 13:41.19 | davascript | oops |
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| 13:41.40 | Tassium | davis: Check to see if there's an entry in /etc/apache/conf.d/bugzilla |
| 13:41.50 | davis | Tassium: I looked and there is not one. |
| 13:42.03 | davis | Tassium: i have one for phpmyadmin in that dir. |
| 13:43.06 | Tassium | davis: That was my only guess, sorry :) |
| 13:43.08 | fourat | howto add a printer into cups |
| 13:43.15 | davis | Tassium: no problem bro |
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| 13:46.25 | tux2007 | why scripts work in home directory but not in another partition? |
| 13:47.00 | Tassium | tux2007: Is the other partition mounted with 'noexec'? |
| 13:47.29 | tux2007 | Tassium, no, with "auto" |
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| 13:47.54 | Tassium | tux2007: What happens when you try to run the script? |
| 13:47.57 | Jeeves_Moss | all: any one here have any experiance with GPSD + a pharos USB GPS-360? |
| 13:48.21 | tux2007 | Tassium, permission denied |
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| 13:48.42 | blondie | tux2007: sounds like that partition is mounted with the noexec option |
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| 13:50.14 | Jeeves_Moss | Tassium: do you have any ideas on this GPSD issue? |
| 13:50.41 | Tassium | Jeeves_Moss: Don't even know what GPSD is. Sorry. |
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| 13:51.16 | Jeeves_Moss | Tassium: its a mapping program. I'm trying to get it to work with this USB GPS moduel. But I can't find any one who knows how to fix the issue. |
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| 13:53.25 | fourat | how to get the ppd file for my printer ? |
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| 13:54.33 | streuner | fourat: visit linuxprinting.org |
| 13:54.38 | marsje | hi... does anyway have a working /etc/danted (socks server)? |
| 13:54.47 | streuner | fourat: those drivers are usually in debian... |
| 13:55.30 | streuner | !tell fourat about search |
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| 13:57.28 | marsje | I just installed danted-server and if I do: telnet localhost 1080 I get connection refused |
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| 13:58.33 | moein | I'm looking for a fast (about 600Mhz) embedded device. Anybody knows any device ? |
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| 13:59.44 | backz | how I use mkisofs on a dir and split .iso files in 700mb files ? |
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| 14:01.21 | FJSanchez | Hi |
| 14:01.21 | streuner | backz: use rar |
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| 14:01.52 | FJSanchez | I have a problem, I cannot see the text in apps like eagle or Ati Control, instead I see a lot of squares |
| 14:01.53 | Coweater | rar? |
| 14:01.59 | streuner | rar |
| 14:02.01 | FJSanchez | What can I do? |
| 14:02.22 | FJSanchez | Before I could see that without problems... |
| 14:02.35 | junix|work | does unstable have support for sata drives natively yet? particularly what is in a Dell Optiplex GX520? |
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| 14:03.23 | streuner | backz: keep in mind, if those iso file bigger than 700 MB it won't work with rar |
| 14:03.30 | Werdna | hey guys. I accidentally deleted my dav_svn.conf while trying to install subversion. Any idea where I can get hold of another copy? |
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| 14:04.03 | streuner | junix: its basically a kernel-thingie... |
| 14:04.09 | backz | I wan't .rar files. can I make .iso files to a dir splitting it ? mkisofs have -split-output argument, but it only split iso in 1GB files |
| 14:04.43 | junix|work | streuner: well if i wanted to put linux on it....what would i do? |
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| 14:05.16 | streuner | junix|work: use an installer which support your SATA-Controller? |
| 14:05.48 | junix|work | streuner: i guess what i'm asking is, which installer would work, an unstable snapshot install? |
| 14:06.20 | dayi2 | do I need to setup two seperate linux server for one dns server , and another for apache,mail,....? do they have to have seperate ip addresses? |
| 14:06.30 | humbolto | I have a weird problem with openoffice backport: when I run oowriter via NX it works, when I start it via x-term it does not! |
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| 14:07.02 | Tassium | dayi2: Nope, those can all be on the same box. (Load and hardware permitting, of course) |
| 14:07.04 | streuner | junix|work: latest kernel are usually in beta etch installers.., but if you need sarge try kmuto's installer (2.6.15) |
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| 14:09.27 | junix|work | streuner: can you link me? |
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| 14:10.00 | tux2007 | hello, thanks fall for help! one trouble gets another, /media/reiserdisk/giochi/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin: error while loading shared librar ies: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:10.23 | tux2007 | i've controlled but this library exists |
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| 14:11.03 | peppet | tux2007: where? |
| 14:12.00 | streuner | junix|work: kmuto or beta etch? |
| 14:12.01 | tux2007 | /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 |
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| 14:12.01 | Trewas | backz: what are you actually trying to do? there is generic "split" command if you just need to split large files into smaller |
| 14:12.01 | junix|work | kmuto i think i can get beta etch on my own |
| 14:12.10 | streuner | !listvals kmuto |
| 14:12.16 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'kmuto' by value (8): hcl ;; sarge 2.6.14 ;; sarge 2.6.15 ;; dl ;; driver locator ;; which driver ;; hwcheck ;; sarge 2.6.12. |
| 14:12.24 | streuner | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:12.24 | dpkg | from memory, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 14:12.32 | tux2007 | peppet, /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 |
| 14:12.54 | humbolto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.02 | FJSanchez | How can I list all libraries an app loads? |
| 14:13.11 | FJSanchez | I didn't remember..ñ |
| 14:13.18 | backz | Trewas, I've a dir with 3GB, I need to backup this data on 700mb cd's . mkisofs supports -split-output argument, but it only works with 1GB files. |
| 14:13.53 | dayi2 | Tassium: do I need to use ip-aliasing? |
| 14:14.40 | Tassium | dayi2: An IP address applies to an interface, not a specific service. You can run smtp, http, dns, etc all on one IP address. Methinks you should read a primer on TCP/IP and ports |
| 14:14.55 | peppet | tux2007: it's a symbolic link, verify that target does exist |
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| 14:15.14 | junix|work | streuner: its only 137MB?!? |
| 14:15.21 | Trewas | backz: that option seems to be there for storing dvd-images on crappy filesystems, not for splitting stuff to several disks |
| 14:15.22 | junix|work | that's kind of odd |
| 14:15.23 | dayi2 | As I read I need a seperate interface for nameserver |
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| 14:15.35 | streuner | junix|work: no, most important part is the kernel itself... |
| 14:15.45 | tux2007 | peppet, i've copied this library in another directory, then the target exists! |
| 14:15.48 | petemc | dayi2: where did you read that? |
| 14:16.03 | superlinux | i get sometimes access denied while i should not be. i have to refresh my browser many times so that it works ok. so how should i fix the problem |
| 14:16.10 | backz | Trewas, I'm splitting with 'split' command, split -b 734003200 cdimages, but will it work ? |
| 14:16.19 | stew | dayi2: there is nothing special about nameservers that would make them require their own interface |
| 14:16.32 | superlinux | i get sometimes access denied message from squid while i should not be. i have to refresh my browser many times so that it works ok. so how should i fix the problem |
| 14:16.45 | junix|work | streuner: so....its the kernel+base? |
| 14:16.48 | stew | junix|work: it's seems normal that its 137mb, it must be a netinst, /msg dpkg netinst |
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| 14:17.12 | backz | Trewas, no! it will not attach file header on .iso file |
| 14:17.13 | dayi2 | but it says that I need to seperate ip addresses for one nameserver and another for dnscache |
| 14:17.14 | Tassium | superlinux: I don't use Squid much, so this is a wild guess. Do you have a concurrent connections limit set in Squid that is maybe too low? |
| 14:17.32 | superlinux | Tassium yes there is i think |
| 14:17.52 | superlinux | there are 2 |
| 14:17.57 | streuner | junix|work: kernel plus some basic apps you usually need, all other stuff you install via i-net anyways... |
| 14:18.06 | superlinux | on is 15 and one is 30 |
| 14:18.09 | FJSanchez | How can I list all libraries and applications loads dinamically? |
| 14:18.17 | h00t | hi everyone again ... how can i install unstable of linux... i don't even mind if i have to start over... can someone point me to an url |
| 14:18.17 | pipeline | FJSanchez: ldd |
| 14:18.21 | FJSanchez | ok thanks |
| 14:18.26 | pipeline | h00t: If you have to ask, you have no business doing it. |
| 14:18.31 | stew | h00t: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 14:18.32 | stew | yeah |
| 14:18.40 | streuner | h00t: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 14:18.53 | Trewas | backz: no you can't just split a cd-image to several pieces (or can but it may not be very useful)... that rar option mentioned earlier does not sound half-bad |
| 14:19.27 | backz | Trewas, but the only way to open file is using rar. |
| 14:19.28 | h00t | pipeline: let me decide what i'm gonna do w/ my system |
| 14:19.41 | junix|work | streuner: ok |
| 14:19.43 | humbolto | how to install sun java 1.5 in sarge with all plugins for firefox, ...? |
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| 14:19.56 | stew | humbolto: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 14:20.01 | h00t | stew: what's up man .. thanx for your help last night ... it didn't work anyway |
| 14:20.04 | h00t | haha |
| 14:20.13 | stew | h00t: what is not working? |
| 14:20.15 | pipeline | h00t: I wouldn't have it any other way. |
| 14:20.34 | FJSanchez | Mmmm, I think it's a problem with TrueType fonts... |
| 14:20.37 | h00t | the stupid nvidia driver |
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| 14:20.46 | FJSanchez | I see a lot of squares instead of text in some apps |
| 14:20.47 | Trewas | backz: yes... 3GB to 700mb disks is not very convenient no matter how that is done, unless they are small files and can be "split" that way into several disks |
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| 14:20.51 | FJSanchez | Any ideas? |
| 14:21.13 | FJSanchez | When starting I get a warning about it |
| 14:21.32 | FJSanchez | encondings.dir don't found |
| 14:21.56 | stew | h00t: the non-free driver? |
| 14:22.06 | h00t | stew, yes |
| 14:22.21 | h00t | stew, ... wait ... let me explain the situation |
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| 14:22.32 | astronaute | hi all =) |
| 14:23.29 | superlinux | astronaute hi |
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| 14:24.34 | kristalino | dpkg: bind |
| 14:24.34 | dpkg | i heard bind is the Berkeley Internet Name Daemon, a DNS server; see http://www.isc.org/view.cgi?/products/BIND/index.phtml, or read the brilliant docs at http://www.nominum.com/resources/documentation/Bv9ARM.pdf. |
| 14:25.02 | kristalino | dpkg: upgrade your links, plz :| |
| 14:25.03 | h00t | stew, i have Geforce 2 ... which means that I have to use "legacy driver" ... the nvidia "non free" drivers have been split into current and legacy .... the problem is that 3.1 debian which i have doesn't support legacy drivers therefore i cannot use "nvidia one liner" ... i had to use nvidia script ... the installation went fine but when i rebooted gdm all i saw was nvidia logo and then it... |
| 14:25.05 | h00t | ...said it cannot start xserver |
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| 14:27.41 | loiic | does anyone know how to user /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 14:27.48 | kristalino | "Starting domain name service: namednamed: capset failed: Operation not permitted |
| 14:27.48 | kristalino | named: capset failed: Operation not permitted |
| 14:27.48 | kristalino | " Why ? |
| 14:27.54 | aaronlin | I have a tar.bz2'd program that I want to install. It is supposedly made for debian...is there a way I can use dpkg to organize and install it for me? |
| 14:28.06 | pipeline | aaronlin: Sortof. |
| 14:28.12 | pipeline | aaronlin: You can use "checkinstall" |
| 14:28.25 | Tassium | aaronlin: Not directly. dpkg only works with .deb packages. You'd have to find a way to make that .tar.bz2 into a .deb |
| 14:28.26 | stew | aaronlin: what is the program? are you sure that there are not .debs available? |
| 14:28.28 | pipeline | aaronlin: Checkinstall generates a .deb with no dependency information. But it lets you remove it cleanly. |
| 14:28.39 | loiic | i created that file and set up the pin for a package, but seams to have no effet, do i need to create an apt.conf and link to the preferences file or something? |
| 14:28.40 | stew | loiic: check "man apt_preferences" |
| 14:28.42 | aaronlin | openwengo2.0beta1 |
| 14:28.54 | stew | loiic: have you run "apt-get update" since creating the file? |
| 14:29.04 | loiic | i did indeed |
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| 14:29.30 | loiic | bein if i dod apt-cache showpkg mypackage, i still get the stable version |
| 14:29.52 | loiic | eventhough accoring to the /etc/apt/preferences i set up it should use the testing one |
| 14:29.52 | stew | loiic: can you put your preferences file and the outpput of "apt-cache policy packagename" into a pastebin? |
| 14:30.00 | h00t | stew: so you cannot help me |
| 14:30.07 | loiic | stew: sure |
| 14:30.10 | stew | loiic: you have a source available for testing? |
| 14:30.18 | stew | h00t: sorry, i'm not helpful with non-free drivers |
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| 14:30.36 | loiic | stew: actually no, i didnt know if it has to be done |
| 14:31.00 | astronaute | h00t: you are on etch ? |
| 14:31.02 | aaronlin | I would like to find a deb somewhere for openwengo2.0, but it's definitely not in stable and I don't know how to look in testing/unstable or anywhere else (someone recommended backports?) |
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| 14:31.13 | schemebow | Is it possible to tell gnome-terminal that I want to use Unicode every time I use it? |
| 14:31.16 | loiic | stew: but if i add a source for testing in source.list the apt-get update apt-get upgrade will switch me to testing, am i wrong? |
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| 14:31.45 | astronaute | h00t: on etch i use : NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8762-pkg2.run |
| 14:31.56 | astronaute | works fine |
| 14:32.11 | pipeline | astronaute: That's a Bad Idea. |
| 14:32.13 | h00t | astronaute: sorry i was on the phone .. .i got the lates release |
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| 14:32.37 | pipeline | astronaute: The nvidia installer shits all over /usr/lib. The nvidia GL libraries then get overwritten by debian packages. This is a Bad Thing. |
| 14:32.51 | loiic | stew: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/73973 |
| 14:32.57 | h00t | astronaute: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72481 |
| 14:33.44 | h00t | pipeline: what do you mean ... so how can i get the legacy working .. do i have to get etch |
| 14:34.19 | aaronlin | when installing, I get ./qtwengophone: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found (required by ./qtwengophone) ; I assume this is because my version of libstdc++ is too old? Does debian maintain a newer version of the lib? |
| 14:34.38 | astronaute | h00t: dunno I have etch here and it works great, twinview |
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| 14:35.30 | h00t | astronaute: pipeline : ... what is better to use nvidia installer or "debian nvidia one-liner" system |
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| 14:35.57 | sep | h00t, nvidia one-liner, or the nvidia debian howto, never the nvidia installer |
| 14:36.08 | astronaute | h00t: I only used nvidia.run , and before installing them i apt-get linux-headers |
| 14:36.31 | astronaute | after that you need to edit xorg.conf to put nvidia instead of nv |
| 14:36.49 | astronaute | but I don't know if there is some problems on your kernel |
| 14:37.04 | pipeline | h00t: Yes, you need to upgrade to etch to get the debian-packaged nvidia drivers. |
| 14:37.10 | h00t | i have 2.6.8 kernel and the module compiled fine |
| 14:37.26 | sep | h00t, the nvidia one-liner works nice with sarge. i used it several times. |
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| 14:37.31 | h00t | what is the difference between "sid" and "etch" |
| 14:37.31 | Master_Medic | hello |
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| 14:37.44 | astronaute | etch is testing versions |
| 14:37.48 | astronaute | sarge is stable |
| 14:37.56 | h00t | and sid |
| 14:38.03 | Coweater | is unstable |
| 14:38.05 | Master_Medic | i just installed debian yesterday on my box, now i'm trying to set up a wireless usb adapter on it so that i can connect to my network |
| 14:38.05 | astronaute | unstable maybe |
| 14:38.11 | blondie | what's experimental called? :) |
| 14:38.13 | h00t | so etch will become sid |
| 14:38.14 | dabreegster | Unstable. Latest and greatest. |
| 14:38.17 | astronaute | no |
| 14:38.18 | blondie | h00t: no it won't |
| 14:38.18 | sep | h00t, sarge is stable, current production quality, etch is testing, going to be the next stable, sid is where all the development occurs and is constantly changing. |
| 14:38.20 | Master_Medic | can someone help me set it up (i'm using sarge) |
| 14:38.33 | h00t | thanx sep |
| 14:38.38 | sep | sit is allways sid. testing becomes stable then a new name is picked for the next testing |
| 14:38.45 | astronaute | h00t: better dont take unstable |
| 14:38.51 | stew | loiic: you don't have a testing source in your sources.list. however this is probably a good thing, you really don't want to mix non-stable software with stable, instead use a backport, /msg dpkg backports |
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| 14:39.04 | astronaute | h00t: etch is fine |
| 14:39.22 | sep | h00t do you run sarge ? did you use the nvidia one-liner ? |
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| 14:39.34 | h00t | ok i have sarge w/ 2.6.8 kernel ... will BUT ONCE AGAIN ... I HAVE TO INSTALL LEGACY DRIVERS ... not lates ones |
| 14:39.37 | Master_Medic | has anyone been able to successfully set up a wireless usb adapter with debian? |
| 14:39.41 | stew | h00t: please don't use caps |
| 14:39.43 | loiic | stew: well for that particular packpage they recommand using the testing one, isnt t possible to use testing only for this package? |
| 14:40.07 | sep | h00t, the legacy driver package was made after sarge released |
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| 14:40.22 | sep | h00t, it does not aply to sarge |
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| 14:40.30 | astronaute | btw can someone give me some tips for installing flash plugin for firefox please =) |
| 14:40.36 | h00t | sep ... so thereofer i need to update to etch and then i can use one liner ... correct |
| 14:40.50 | astronaute | it refuses to work |
| 14:40.51 | sep | h00t, you can use the one-liner for sarge. |
| 14:40.58 | fluxdude | does anybody know how I can get cpu temperature readings from my linux boxes, what kernel modification(s) do I need? |
| 14:41.01 | astronaute | about:plugins is empty |
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| 14:41.10 | Teltariat | Greets folks |
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| 14:41.13 | Teltariat | Quick question |
| 14:41.18 | schemebow | Is there any terminal which does supports all the features it claims to have and has fontconfig support? |
| 14:41.47 | sep | if you want to updaet to etch or not is a choise you have to make it's not relevant to the use of nvidia. but _IF_ you upgrade to etch you have to use the legacy drivers, in sarge it's the same drivers for both the old and nwe cards |
| 14:41.50 | stew | loiic: it looks like shorewall might be safe, since it doesn't depend on software newer than sarge's, however its much safter to backport |
| 14:41.55 | pumpkin0 | fluxdude: depends on the CPU/chipset |
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| 14:42.07 | Teltariat | I need to reinstall python, but when doing an 'apt-get remove python', it wants to remove all deps, including a large part of Gnome. |
| 14:42.08 | stew | loiic: you have to be very careful about what gets upgraded |
| 14:42.22 | Teltariat | How do I remove Python *without* touching deps, and reinstall it right back in? |
| 14:42.38 | stew | Teltariat: apt-get install --reinstall python |
| 14:42.41 | loiic | stew: i ll just download manually the .deb and use dpkg -i to install it |
| 14:42.52 | h00t | sep ... how can i unistall the nvidia shell script i installed yesterday |
| 14:43.01 | Teltariat | stew: Thank you very muchc. |
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| 14:43.19 | pipeline | Teltariat: dpkg --force-all --purge --ignore-depends <package name> |
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| 14:43.30 | pipeline | Teltariat: A dangerous operation :P |
| 14:43.36 | sep | h00t, have no idea. that script makes a mess of things. look for a make uninstall in there or somewhere, |
| 14:43.44 | astronaute | does anyone here have flash plugin for firefox on etch please ? |
| 14:43.44 | stew | Teltariat: why do you think it needs a reinstall? |
| 14:43.53 | Teltariat | pipeline: stew's operation sounds fluffier; as in, it doesn't sound like it has sharp things to skewer me. |
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| 14:44.31 | h00t | what kernel does etch use |
| 14:44.41 | pipeline | h00t: etch only has 2.6 kernels available. |
| 14:44.44 | Teltariat | stew: I installed Python libs using some crapass easy_install script, and this screwed up my Python repo when I tried to use apt-get to install some Python libs. I just want to trash the whole thing and start over. |
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| 14:44.51 | h00t | which ones |
| 14:44.54 | loiic | pretty much every time i add an entry in my source.list i get this error http://pastebin.ca/73981, running apt-get update solve the problem every time, but it is rather anoying, i never experience that before on my other debians systems |
| 14:45.03 | pipeline | h00t: Do I look like p.d.o? |
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| 14:45.28 | h00t | don't know what pdo is :) ... do they go above 2.6.8 |
| 14:45.33 | blondie | yes |
| 14:45.36 | astronaute | h00t: 2.6.156-1-amd64-generic for exemple |
| 14:45.38 | blondie | packages.debian.org |
| 14:45.46 | blondie | 2.6.156? |
| 14:45.49 | astronaute | h00t: 2.6.15-1-amd64-generic for exemple |
| 14:45.51 | astronaute | =)) |
| 14:46.10 | h00t | hmmm. |
| 14:46.13 | abrotman | is astronaute astronut? |
| 14:46.18 | astronaute | yes |
| 14:46.22 | astronaute | why ? |
| 14:46.28 | abrotman | just wondering :) |
| 14:46.29 | h00t | ok .. i'm gonna try all this when i get home |
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| 14:46.39 | linux2_ | hey everyone |
| 14:46.43 | linux2_ | exit |
| 14:46.47 | blondie | ROOD |
| 14:46.51 | blondie | ROOD |
| 14:46.59 | astronaute | i forgot to register |
| 14:47.07 | h00t | ... is there anything aviable like "gimp" ... dpkg says that it's bloated and unintuitive .. |
| 14:47.09 | blondie | two attempts to spell astronaut? |
| 14:47.14 | astronaute | btw do you know how to force kvirc to execute some lines on connect |
| 14:47.15 | blondie | third time lucky! |
| 14:47.21 | sep | h00t, i'd try doing the nvidia one liner on top of your nvidia shell script install and hope it didnt mess up thing too much. |
| 14:47.21 | astronaute | such as /msg register stuff ? |
| 14:47.32 | h00t | ok sep |
| 14:47.38 | blondie | astronaute: no, but I know how to make kvirc users quit :S |
| 14:47.51 | astronaute | show me |
| 14:47.52 | astronaute | =) |
| 14:47.56 | blondie | no |
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| 14:48.10 | wamty | Question: i need to make a movie of a console or xterm session. and a movie of stuff that happens in a window (like, doing stuff in a browser, that sort of thing). know any application that might do this? |
| 14:49.13 | dabreegster | wamty: For a terminal, script is one option, though not ideal for a movie. ttyrec is better |
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| 14:49.40 | stew | Teltariat: whatever the python lib screwed up, i'm not sure that i think reinstalling python would fix things. have you checked if this python lib has an uninstall? |
| 14:49.53 | wamty | Any other suggestions? :( |
| 14:50.02 | h00t | damn ... why didn't anyone point me to this .... http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 14:50.32 | Piet | wamty: istanbul |
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| 14:50.40 | Teltariat | stew: I did not find any uninstall scripts. So I went in to lib/python/site-packages and rm'ed it myself. And then tried to reinstalled it. And then the same thing, over and over, until pretty much the thing is shot. |
| 14:50.50 | aaronlin | can someone help me upgrade gcc from 3.3 to 4.0 for debian? |
| 14:51.10 | wamty | piet: what? |
| 14:51.32 | Piet | wamty: like i said: istanbul |
| 14:51.36 | wamty | whats that? |
| 14:52.13 | dabreegster | wamty: apt-cache show istanbul |
| 14:52.36 | superlinux | Piet, aint that the turkish city? |
| 14:52.41 | Piet | a city in eastern europe |
| 14:52.41 | Piet | and a desktop session recorder |
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| 14:53.45 | Piet | superlinux: yes |
| 14:54.01 | Piet | which would fit explanation #1 |
| 14:54.08 | Piet | s/fit/match/ |
| 14:54.20 | h00t | THANK YOU EVERYONE |
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| 14:56.22 | stew | Teltariat: did you also check in /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages? |
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| 14:56.51 | Teltariat | stew: Yes, thats the directory I was referring to: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages |
| 14:56.57 | bricecube | are there any tomcat 5.5 packages available for sarge? |
| 14:56.57 | Teltariat | As it stands now, I need python-formencode |
| 14:57.07 | Teltariat | but it doesn't seem to exist in Etch's repository |
| 14:57.19 | Teltariat | I mean sid |
| 14:57.20 | stew | Teltariat: check /usr/lib/site-python too |
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| 14:58.33 | stew | Teltariat: python in sid is undergoing a major transition right now, it would not be in the least bit suprising to find out that python is screwed up royally on its own, without the help of 3rd party install scripts |
| 14:58.50 | Teltariat | Actually I'm using etch, sorry |
| 14:58.57 | Piet | so who killed p.d.o this time? |
| 14:59.24 | Teltariat | um |
| 14:59.26 | Teltariat | saluda... |
| 14:59.29 | blondie | !es |
| 14:59.30 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 15:00.22 | fourat | Anyone know how to configure OpenOffice to use the CUPS printer service? |
| 15:00.41 | zinx | i'd think it would by default on debian o_O |
| 15:00.47 | Sedg | mount using vfat/hfs won't work with my ipod, any thoughts? |
| 15:00.57 | zinx | i'll admit to not using word processors, though |
| 15:01.38 | Fackamato | Sedg: how about auto |
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| 15:01.59 | Sedg | Fackamato, will try now |
| 15:02.04 | stew | Sedg: do any partitions show up in "fdisk -l" ? |
| 15:02.05 | Fackamato | anyone with an iriver mp3 player (for example e10), and has succeeded in mounting it? |
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| 15:03.11 | Sedg | /dev/sda1 1 10 80293+ 0 Empty |
| 15:03.12 | Sedg | /dev/sda2 11 248 1911732 b W95 FAT32 |
| 15:03.16 | Sedg | yep |
| 15:03.31 | Sedg | looks like vfat should work, but it doesn't |
| 15:03.53 | stew | Sedg: do you get an error? |
| 15:04.33 | Sedg | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, |
| 15:04.52 | Sedg | using mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/ipod |
| 15:04.54 | stew | Sedg: you should be trying to mount /dev/sda2, not /dev/sda |
| 15:05.02 | Sedg | will try now |
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| 15:05.42 | Sedg | stew, thanx++ |
| 15:06.58 | itchi | abrotman: Im still running that command there, heum it's 'dpkg reconfigure -a' that i did an where i wait desesperated for that he finish |
| 15:07.23 | Sedg | stew, thanx again, now I can sleep |
| 15:07.26 | Master_Medic | how do you tell if a device you plugged in is working right? |
| 15:07.33 | Master_Medic | is there some way to check that the os picked itr up? |
| 15:07.39 | stew | Master_Medic: what device? |
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| 15:07.48 | Master_Medic | usb wireless adapter |
| 15:07.54 | pumpkin0 | Master_Medic: dmesg |
| 15:08.17 | stew | Master_Medic: if you have the drivers loaded for it, it would show up in "iwconfig" |
| 15:08.26 | Master_Medic | how do i get the drivers? |
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| 15:08.52 | xristos | how can i tell debian to use /etc/hosts first for resolving ? |
| 15:08.58 | itchi | abrotman: Remember you wish hour when i have begin that command last night? |
| 15:09.00 | Coweater | it does |
| 15:09.01 | xristos | it insists on querying my nameserver ignoring /etc/hosts |
| 15:09.04 | stew | Master_Medic: what chipset is the wireless? |
| 15:09.08 | Master_Medic | iwconfig: command not found |
| 15:09.35 | Master_Medic | StereoSkit i'm not sure its a Micorosoft broadband networking wireless usb adapter |
| 15:09.41 | fourat | Anyone know how to configure OpenOffice to use the CUPS printer service? |
| 15:09.53 | stew | xristos: make sure your /etc/nsswitch.conf says "hosts: files dns" |
| 15:09.56 | Master_Medic | model mn-719 |
| 15:10.02 | Master_Medic | mn-710** |
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| 15:10.02 | pumpkin0 | dmesg will give you a first clue, "lsusb -v" should show it too. |
| 15:10.02 | stew | xristos: how are you trying to resolve the name? |
| 15:10.07 | xristos | stew: hosts name |
| 15:10.11 | xristos | sorry, host name |
| 15:10.17 | xristos | nsswitch.conf is correct |
| 15:10.18 | stew | xristos: hosts will never use resolv.conf |
| 15:10.22 | stew | xristos: its a dns tool only |
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| 15:10.51 | xristos | what about programs that use gethostbyname ? |
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| 15:11.20 | stew | xristos: those should use nss |
| 15:11.41 | stew | xristos: for example, "ping machine.com" should use nss, and therefore try resolv.conf first |
| 15:11.53 | Master_Medic | err i meant stew |
| 15:12.08 | Master_Medic | stew its a wireless broadband networking wireless usb adapter model mn-710 |
| 15:12.13 | xristos | stew: i think you mean /etc/hosts |
| 15:12.19 | xristos | resolv.conf has the nameserver info |
| 15:12.20 | stew | xristos: err, right |
| 15:12.24 | stew | Master_Medic: you need to find out what chipset it uses |
| 15:12.25 | astronaute | no flash plugin 64bits yet ? |
| 15:12.29 | xristos | ok thanks |
| 15:12.32 | Master_Medic | stew u know how i can do that? |
| 15:12.42 | pumpkin0 | Master_Medic: run "lsusb -v" |
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| 15:13.07 | Master_Medic | pumpkin0 okay, it gave me a bunch of lines |
| 15:13.20 | stew | Master_Medic: i'd use google |
| 15:13.28 | pumpkin0 | Master_Medic: read them and find the wireless-thing ... |
| 15:13.31 | Master_Medic | the device is listed here |
| 15:13.36 | Master_Medic | pumpkin0 i found it |
| 15:14.46 | Master_Medic | Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:00c2 Microsoft Corp. |
| 15:14.46 | abrotman | itchi: huh ? |
| 15:15.09 | itchi | abrotman: I not know if you remember of my troubles the last night ? |
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| 15:16.00 | abrotman | itchi: yes |
| 15:16.08 | jhenn | can someone help me get my sound working? |
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| 15:16.26 | stew | jhenn: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 15:16.30 | pumpkin0 | Master_Medic: now go "http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/" and check if there is a driver. If there is no driver => ndiswrapper. |
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| 15:17.17 | itchi | I wait that the commant ^^ are done, like in my dpkg log, i have find many many unconfigured packges, it's looks that the trouble is alread from some day ago and it's now that the troubles are so big that the comp complain :-/ |
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| 15:17.21 | wamty | i have download the samba server .. and extrat it. now how i will configure .. that server |
| 15:17.23 | stew | Master_Medic: this should tell you if your current kernel has support for it: grep "045e.*00c2" /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap |
| 15:17.55 | itchi | abrotman: Sorry, i have not sleep many time, and i'm near the deads sleep ;-) |
| 15:18.06 | abrotman | itchi: so go to bed .. work on it when you wake up |
| 15:18.08 | stew | Master_Medic: actually maybe not |
| 15:18.17 | wamty | Any ideas? |
| 15:18.21 | abrotman | itchi: you're far more likely to make a severe mistake when you're tired |
| 15:18.25 | itchi | abrotman: I'm just out of it ;-) i have sleep some hours now, it's a bit better :-p |
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| 15:19.15 | itchi | abrotman: Yes, but like i not need to do many things, i only need to reconfigure the packages. But's it's long i find, i have never see it so long :-/ |
| 15:19.41 | abrotman | what are you trying to do? |
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| 15:20.11 | itchi | abrotman: dpkg-reconfigure -a if i remember, like it's now running of 12 hours ago |
| 15:20.22 | stew | itchi: dpkg --configure -a? |
| 15:20.37 | itchi | abrotman: stew, or apt :-/ |
| 15:21.05 | itchi | stew: I need to look to my shell history, like it's running i can not look |
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| 15:21.14 | mfrisch | Stew I was having the prob with alsa. I have to rerun alsaconf to use the oss emulation. any other ideas? |
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| 15:21.15 | itchi | ooohh, in my chatlog i can check :-) |
| 15:21.21 | stew | itchi: ps would tell you |
| 15:21.37 | itchi | stew: Yes, i look in the log ;-) |
| 15:21.38 | stew | mfrisch: modprobe snd-pcm-oss, and add snd-pcm-oss to /etc/modules |
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| 15:22.15 | stew | itchi: there is no way that "dpkg --configure -a" should take very long, unless its sitting there waiting for input from you |
| 15:22.18 | mfrisch | Stew it is allready and there is /dev/dsp but kiax flakes out when I try to load it. |
| 15:22.42 | itchi | stew: I find it also strange :-/ |
| 15:22.45 | pumpkin0 | wamty: install it via apt. Do not try to download and extract/compile/install if you are not sure you need to do it ... |
| 15:22.50 | stew | mfrisch: can you be more specific than "flakes out"? |
| 15:22.54 | itchi | stew: Running Etch |
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| 15:23.08 | abrotman | afaik .. dpkg-reconfigure -a is not a command |
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| 15:23.43 | mfrisch | Stew Device initialization failed. is the error but it works if I rerun alsaconf |
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| 15:24.12 | stew | mfrisch: is something else already using /dev/dsp? "fuser /dev/dsp" would return a pid if that were the case |
| 15:24.21 | stew | itchi: why not just look at the running process itself? |
| 15:24.29 | stew | itchi: that would be much more authoritative |
| 15:24.57 | mfrisch | stew nothing comes up |
| 15:25.16 | itchi | stew: There's nothings special, or just that reconfigure that are runnin, cpu 0% now, like i need to answer an question |
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| 15:26.12 | itchi | stew: Once done i send the log or so, if you not believe it :-/ |
| 15:26.17 | stew | itchi: you haven't told us what command you ran yet, i thought that is what you were trying to figure out |
| 15:26.43 | stew | mfrisch: you might compare the output of "cat /proc/asound/devices" when it is in both a working and non-working state |
| 15:27.08 | itchi | stew: I'm looking for, like i also not remember, i need to look to the log of the day 27, with grep i not find it like im no more know wchich command i have run |
| 15:27.25 | stew | itchi: if its still running, you can find out from ps |
| 15:27.30 | itchi | 5 minutes ;-) |
| 15:27.33 | stew | i'm clearly not getting through |
| 15:27.55 | mfrisch | Stew maybe its a bad kernel snd-pcm-oss doesn't show when I do lsmod |
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| 15:28.22 | stew | mfrisch: run 'modprobe snd-pcm-oss' and check lsmod again |
| 15:28.32 | stew | mfrisch: and if it still doesn't show up in lsmod, check dmesg |
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| 15:29.08 | itchi | stew: Know you an working command like this ?? less FreeNode-#debian.log | grep itchi | tail - l |
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| 15:29.17 | itchi | stew: My log are to long :-/ |
| 15:29.19 | mooo | dhcpd: Address range 10.0.0.10 to 10.0.0.100 not on net 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.0! |
| 15:29.39 | mooo | it looks that its in range, doesnt it? |
| 15:29.50 | blondie | mooo: no |
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| 15:30.04 | blondie | it's in 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:30.12 | blondie | mooo: you have a 1 in there instead of a 0 |
| 15:30.21 | stew | mfrisch: yes 10.0.0.10 to 10.0.0.100 is on net 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.0 |
| 15:30.32 | stew | mooo: ^^^ |
| 15:30.42 | blondie | oh |
| 15:30.46 | blondie | never mind |
| 15:30.50 | stew | itchi: grep itchi FreeNode-\#debian.log | tail |
| 15:30.51 | Suprano | tell me the first thing in Your mind . |
| 15:31.04 | stew | Suprano: do you have any debian related questions? |
| 15:31.10 | itchi | stew: I love you :-p |
| 15:31.19 | stew | easy |
| 15:31.45 | stew | itchi: if you want to know what command you ran, you should be consulting ps(1) not your irc logs |
| 15:31.51 | Suprano | stew, not yet, atm i am searching a name for my debian server :D |
| 15:31.55 | psyco-obiwan | if i dont want a daemon to start upon boot, how can i easily disable it for autostart (is there some rc.conf-like mechanism to disable daemons ?) |
| 15:32.04 | itchi | stew: hhm i try it :-) |
| 15:32.11 | stew | psyco-obiwan: rcconf or update-rc.d |
| 15:32.40 | itchi | stew: /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure -a |
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| 15:32.59 | itchi | stew: Thanks for these nice hacks :-) |
| 15:33.01 | RTFM-N00B | hi |
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| 15:33.39 | itchi | stew: Can we also see how long time it's running now |
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| 15:34.07 | itchi | stew: I paste that whole line in #flood ?? |
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| 15:34.29 | stew | itchi: oh, that actually reconfigures every single package. and it should be asking you tons of questions. why is it that you are trying to reconfigure every package? |
| 15:34.37 | stew | itchi: which debconf frontend do you use? |
| 15:34.54 | psyco-obiwan | stew: thx, i didnt fine rcconf but im reading up update-rc.d, thx for the moment |
| 15:35.02 | itchi | stew: Because in the log /var/log/dpkg i get many lines of unconfigured packages :-/ |
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| 15:35.38 | stew | psyco-obiwan: rcconf is much simpler but gives less control (just allows you to enable disable, not affect loading order or different runlevels) "aptitude install rcconf" if you want to use that instead |
| 15:35.54 | itchi | stew: I think i got some troubles when i have upgrade this box to Etch. Probably i did somethings wrong in the migration proces i guess ? |
| 15:35.54 | stew | itchi: then you want "dpkg --configure -a" not "dpkg-reconfigure -a" |
| 15:36.17 | itchi | stew: Yes, sorry for what i told here ^^ |
| 15:36.19 | mfrisch | stew I am at a loss |
| 15:36.41 | psyco-obiwan | stew: wow, now that is even more than i wanted ;-) great, thx |
| 15:36.58 | stew | mfrisch: it doesn't show up even after "modprobe snd-pcm-oss"? did any errors show up either on the console or in dmesg? |
| 15:37.22 | itchi | stew: Arg, that's why i have asked to abrotman if he remember that command that i had runn. Like i was no more sure :-/ |
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| 15:37.46 | mfrisch | stew it shows up it just doesn't work until alsaconf |
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| 15:39.08 | stew | mfrisch: put the output of "lsmod" and "cat /proc/asound/devices ; cat /proc/asound/oss/devices" into a pastebin from when it is in a non-working state |
| 15:40.16 | itchi | stew: When it's done, i make an little report, repicapitulate. Like the comp are slow not and hands a bit because he is havy on do some things |
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| 15:40.35 | itchi | s/hands/hangs |
| 15:40.47 | mfrisch | stew I'll be back I have to reboot. |
| 15:40.50 | stew | itchi: i don't think you should be waiting for "dpkg-reconfigure -a" to finish, i think you should kill it and run "dpkg --configure -a" instead |
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| 15:41.08 | itchi | stew: Ok doning now ;-) |
| 15:41.35 | Teltariat | Anyone here ever use Smokeping? |
| 15:42.08 | astronaute | is there 64 bit version of Teamspeak2 or flash plugin firefox plz, can't find info on google... (for flash plugin some pple say no but i want to be sure ^^) |
| 15:42.20 | itchi | stew: I run that command, and it's done now. He not find packgages to reconfigure :-/ |
| 15:42.37 | stew | itchi: that's good |
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| 15:43.12 | exlt | astronaute: no - just use a 32-bit 'user' install of firefox for a flash browser - don't know about TS |
| 15:43.25 | abrotman | simonrvn: ping |
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| 15:44.07 | astronaute | exlt: so sad =) |
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| 15:44.11 | itchi | stew: I get some strange troubles here. Like for example, if i run xchat, i get no more contact with the changserv. I get no more mail, he complain about broken pipes. I got some strange little network troubles. |
| 15:44.35 | itchi | stew: So i con not identify my in xchat. With irrssi it work like expected :-/ |
| 15:44.40 | itchi | s/can/con |
| 15:44.43 | itchi | oeps |
| 15:45.00 | stew | itchi: you mean nickserv? i dunno, i haven't used xchat before |
| 15:45.05 | exlt | astronaute: why sad? just download from mozilla.com and installin your home dir - start it and add all the plugins you want |
| 15:45.08 | itchi | stew: Both :-/ |
| 15:45.32 | stew | itchi: both? both what? both nickserv and changserv? |
| 15:45.36 | itchi | stew: I told for my bot also that bot running on #debian-belgium |
| 15:45.38 | exlt | astronaute: bitch at Macromedia, not debian |
| 15:45.47 | pumpkin0 | itchi: Is ifconfig already showing strange stuff or is it limited to 1-2 apps ? Are you behind a NAT/firwall ? |
| 15:45.56 | itchi | stew: Yes the 2 i get troubles to contact. |
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| 15:46.08 | astronaute | exlt: i have 64 bit firefox and dont know how to put 32 bit on my 64bit system |
| 15:46.17 | stew | itchi: i don't know what changserv is. and i didn't understand what you were trying to say in either of the last two sentences |
| 15:46.31 | itchi | pumpkin0: I have also /open/ everythings on my firewall like i was also thinking ... |
| 15:46.37 | exlt | astronaute: just download from mozilla.com |
| 15:47.03 | pumpkin0 | itchi: maybe a DSL/Cable router somewhere ? |
| 15:47.13 | itchi | pumpkin0: Cable |
| 15:47.33 | astronaute | exlt: yes but there ll be some issues with 64 libs no ? |
| 15:47.37 | astronaute | i search ggle |
| 15:48.00 | exlt | astronaute: no - it'll be fine... |
| 15:48.01 | itchi | stew: When i run xchat, normally he need to tell me that i need to /msg nickserv identify <pass>. I no more get that to |
| 15:48.28 | pumpkin0 | itchi: even cable comes with a router and most-of-the-time a NAT. Disable that NAT, map ALL ports to your local IP and try again. |
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| 15:48.59 | stew | itchi: does "/msg nickserv help" work? |
| 15:49.17 | itchi | stew: No :-/ |
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| 15:49.53 | itchi | also 'fgfs', 'dict', 'email' and many some (network)stuff not more work |
| 15:50.15 | itchi | pumpkin0: ifconfig not show strange things, im still on ipv4 |
| 15:50.28 | pollywog | where do I enable logging of the boot sequence? |
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| 15:50.41 | stew | itchi: have you talked to a freenode staffer about your problems with nickserv? |
| 15:50.53 | stew | itchi: i don't know what fgfs or dict are. what is the problem with email? |
| 15:51.00 | pollywog | I have a couple of boot errors I want logged to a file so I can investigate them |
| 15:51.03 | astronaute | exlt: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/all.html its normal all for 686 ? |
| 15:51.09 | pollywog | but they go by too fast |
| 15:51.14 | itchi | stew: Yes, and we have already reset that password |
| 15:51.27 | itchi | pollywog: Look to /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 15:51.46 | itchi | pollywog: And change the line # Run bootlogd at startup BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No |
| 15:51.46 | pollywog | itchi thanks |
| 15:52.02 | pumpkin0 | itchi: http://www.sting3r.com/index.php/?p=19 ? |
| 15:52.04 | itchi | stew: I not understands what's going :-/ |
| 15:52.06 | exlt | astronaute: yep i686 ~= 32-bit |
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| 15:52.25 | exlt | astronaute: x86_64 ~= 64-bit |
| 15:52.36 | astronaute | exlt: that means that there is no 64bit version of firefox or im dumb ? |
| 15:52.59 | itchi | pumpkin0: Yes, i know about, it's not taht the trouble, like mail, dict, fgfs, xchat, and many network stuff no more work here :-/ |
| 15:53.04 | astronaute | exlt: for dlad of course |
| 15:53.05 | pollywog | I compiled a kernel from kernel.org the debian way and even with initrd it seems to boot and I get the same small boot errors I get with the stock debian kernel |
| 15:53.10 | pollywog | :) |
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| 15:53.38 | pumpkin0 | itchi: my bet is on your ISP. |
| 15:53.38 | exlt | you already have a 64-bit version - if you want to run the proprietary MM Flash junk you need a local 32-bit install - yes - download the i686 one....... |
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| 15:53.59 | itchi | pumpkin0: I'm not sure, it's after an update of the Etch box |
| 15:53.59 | astronaute | ok i try |
| 15:54.10 | exlt | astronaute: Debian built the 64-bit port for you ;) |
| 15:54.51 | itchi | pumpkin0: I retry from another computer, where i not get the trouble (i hope i not get it now) |
| 15:55.02 | pumpkin0 | itchi: which low-level stuff was updated ? |
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| 15:57.23 | itchi | pumpkin0: Argm, to tell you i not know :-/ |
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| 15:58.19 | samuel | sup all |
| 15:58.19 | itchi | stew: pumpkin0 It's been here locally on this box, and not an trouble of my isp. I tested again on another box. And please Not tell me to reinstall, that's to simply, i want to know (i hope you understand) |
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| 15:58.47 | samuel | anyone know whats up with that linux-kbuild-2.6.17 bug? can i just make an equivs package to satisfy deps? |
| 15:59.13 | stew | itchi: what is the problem you are having with email? |
| 15:59.16 | pumpkin0 | itchi: try the basic stuff like pinging, digg´ing and transfering large files and checking the md5 on both ends. |
| 15:59.23 | stew | samuel: have you checked the bts? |
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| 15:59.56 | DogWater | Anyone know of a dual core motherboard that works with 3.1? |
| 16:00.00 | itchi | aaaa i got 4 of 81 mails ... |
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| 16:00.16 | itchi | 8 of ... :-/ strange :-/ |
| 16:00.22 | samuel | stew, yes, but it seems all just say that "renders package unusable", there is like 8 bug reports on it, sevrity grave |
| 16:00.36 | stew | samuel: and none of them document a workaround? |
| 16:00.53 | itchi | mail looks solved, that's already good news, an thing lesser on the list |
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| 16:01.06 | samuel | stew, nope... so i guess ill try the equivs bit |
| 16:01.25 | itchi | i think i need it :-/ |
| 16:01.34 | tux2007 | hello, i've a very poor audio, i use alsa... |
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| 16:04.34 | itchi | bbbrrr, i hate it, rebooting the computer ... |
| 16:04.36 | DogWater | is there anyway to make a debian install cd which uses a newer kernel? |
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| 16:04.39 | itchi | brb |
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| 16:04.49 | samuel | stew, nope... that package really must contain something |
| 16:05.08 | padi | what can I do if cdrecord -scanbus does not show me any devices just warnings and I don't know my cd-r device number? |
| 16:05.51 | padi | i need a commandline-help here :) |
| 16:05.52 | grumbel | since a dist-upgrade of unstable a few weeks back metacity now launches all windows in the background instead of the foreground (ie. ctrl-l in gimp doesn't bring layerdialog to the front, save dialogs end up being covered by other windows). Anybody know how to fix that? |
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| 16:06.18 | cahoot | padi: try cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI (if a 2.6 kernel) |
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| 16:06.53 | padi | cahoot: great, works thanks! |
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| 16:07.15 | cahoot | padi: shouldn't really need to though (if 2.6) - cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc or whatever should do |
| 16:07.20 | myren | what encoding is an m4a music file? |
| 16:07.46 | padi | oh sh*...udev not working, thus no /dev/pg* found |
| 16:08.07 | dabreegster | myren: I think it's AAC or something |
| 16:08.13 | dabreegster | myren: run file foo.m4a and see |
| 16:08.51 | myren | dabreegster: yeah, aac it looks. |
| 16:08.52 | myren | thanks mate! |
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| 16:09.28 | myren | apt-get update isnt nearly as much fun when there's 300 daily patch sets. :/ |
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| 16:09.43 | itchi | stew: I have get an message at bootime that i runn ipv6 over ipv4, i guess it's the trouble ?? |
| 16:10.02 | myren | i fear for whats going to happen when i update my laptop; its been like 3-4 months. |
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| 16:10.26 | tux2007 | hello, i've a very poor audio, i use alsa... i can't understand how to do in order to setup it. |
| 16:10.44 | myren | oh, and: Fetched 880kB in 60s (14.6kB/s) |
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| 16:11.13 | cahoot | tux2007: not easy to understand what you really mean |
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| 16:11.26 | dabreegster | tux2007: Does sound work yet? Or is the quality poor? Volume low? |
| 16:11.31 | pumpkin0 | if i use a initrd: will it be freed/deleted from ram after the boot-up scripts reach the disc ? Or will it stay in ram forever ? |
| 16:11.35 | itchi | stew: I have not activate ip6 over ipv4, also i not know many about ipv6. Know you where i can look to see about that ipv6 ? |
| 16:11.49 | tux2007 | dabreegster, quality poor and low-volume. |
| 16:11.56 | simonrvn | abrotman: pong |
| 16:12.08 | abrotman | simonrvn: the guys in #ldap helped me :) |
| 16:12.20 | cahoot | tux2007: what alsa module? |
| 16:12.21 | simonrvn | cool :) |
| 16:12.28 | simonrvn | they're nice people |
| 16:12.37 | tux2007 | cahoot, ? |
| 16:12.56 | cahoot | tux2007: what alsa module/sound card? |
| 16:12.58 | abrotman | simonrvn: just slow sometimes :) |
| 16:13.10 | tux2007 | cahoot, ensoniq |
| 16:13.11 | abrotman | simonrvn: some days i wish every channel was like #debian :) |
| 16:13.44 | itchi | stew: Is that the ipv6 over ipv4 that give that strange trouble ? |
| 16:13.47 | cahoot | tux2007: adjusted levels in alsamixer ? |
| 16:14.11 | tux2007 | alsamixer? |
| 16:14.17 | cahoot | tux2007: try to mute all not used outputs/inputs |
| 16:14.18 | tux2007 | alsamixer-gui? |
| 16:14.23 | simonrvn | abrotman: yeh, they're usually busy or away or something, including myself ;). #debian has many people in it, that helps things. |
| 16:14.31 | abrotman | no kidding :) |
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| 16:14.58 | itchi | stew: I have not activate that ^^ |
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| 16:15.38 | cahoot | tux2007: do you use alsa straight or via artsd / esd? |
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| 16:15.53 | tux2007 | cahoot, not esd |
| 16:16.05 | cahoot | but artsd? |
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| 16:16.46 | tux2007 | no-xfs:/home/tristano# artsd Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root" can't create mcop directory |
| 16:17.31 | tux2007 | cahoot, i thnik straight, |
| 16:17.37 | tux2007 | *think |
| 16:17.39 | cahoot | tux2007: it was a question not a recommendation |
| 16:18.04 | tux2007 | cahoot, i think that i use alsa straight. |
| 16:18.18 | cahoot | tux2007: does fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm* return anything? |
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| 16:19.04 | blondie | o.O |
| 16:19.14 | tux2007 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:19.52 | cahoot | tux2007: so xmms is the app you used to test sound? |
| 16:20.16 | dabreegster | Hi ChanServ! |
| 16:20.32 | tux2007 | xmms is th app that i use more frequently. but i've tried also rhitmbox, totem... |
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| 16:21.06 | cahoot | tux2007: adjusting levels in alsamixer makes no useful difference? |
| 16:21.12 | itchi | How we can activate ipv6 over ipv4 ? |
| 16:22.14 | tux2007 | cahoot, yes but the sound seems to be underworking respect of knowed capabilities of the soundcard. |
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| 16:22.53 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: reconfiugre and recompile kernel. |
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| 16:23.10 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I use an stock kernel :-/ |
| 16:23.29 | WoodyWoodpecker | wth is a stock kernel? |
| 16:23.44 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Or an bad modules ipv6 modules? I use the default deb kernel |
| 16:23.53 | WoodyWoodpecker | tux2007: Have you used "alsaconf" to configure alsa properly for your soundcard? |
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| 16:24.03 | tux2007 | WoodyWoodpecker, yes |
| 16:24.26 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: I don't know about that. Is it not possible to get kernel sources? |
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| 16:24.55 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I'm to dumb to recompile an kernel :-/ |
| 16:25.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: Read some stuff in Documentation before you compile. |
| 16:25.44 | Eulex | itchi, the default debian kernels have ipv6 support, if that's what you mean |
| 16:25.50 | WoodyWoodpecker | I even think there is a README in the root of the kernel sources. |
| 16:25.56 | cahoot | tux2007: what's the ouptut of cat /proc/asound/cards? (don't paste if >2 lines) |
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| 16:26.37 | WoodyWoodpecker | tux2007: What kernel modules are you using anyway. Tried to recompile your own kernel? |
| 16:26.43 | tux2007 | cahoot, bash: /proc/asound/cards: Permission denied |
| 16:26.52 | itchi | Eulex: I not need ipv6, i got an message the the comp here are runnin ipv6 over ipv4, like i have many network troubles, i want to try to desactivate that, like i not remember that i had activate ipv6 over ipv4 |
| 16:26.59 | cahoot | tux2007: cat /proc/asound/cards? |
| 16:27.02 | WoodyWoodpecker | Use "alsamixer" to configure alsa |
| 16:27.27 | WoodyWoodpecker | Try some different settings to improve quality. |
| 16:27.46 | tux2007 | cahoot, yes, sorry: 0 [AudioPCI ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI |
| 16:27.46 | tux2007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.58 | itchi | in modconf i see that ipv6 are loaded. I desactivate it and hope i can reboot an get network |
| 16:28.06 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: You can use iptables to run ipv6 over ipv4 too. |
| 16:28.29 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I need to check and eventuall desactivate ipv6 over ipv4 |
| 16:28.44 | WoodyWoodpecker | tux2007: Does any other hardware have the same irq of 201 also? |
| 16:29.02 | itchi | FATAL: Module ipv6 is in use. |
| 16:29.09 | itchi | bbbrrr, i kill him |
| 16:29.11 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: Do you mean "deactivate"? |
| 16:29.15 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Yes |
| 16:29.39 | tux2007 | WoodyWoodpecker, i don't know. but the strange is that the mic volum get down master volume... |
| 16:29.43 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: If the module is been used by some subsystem or other modules you can't unload it. |
| 16:29.55 | itchi | arg :-/ |
| 16:30.22 | Eulex | itchi, blacklist the ipv6 module. |
| 16:30.22 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Where is that then defined to use ipv6 over ipv4 ? |
| 16:30.24 | Eulex | !blacklist |
| 16:30.24 | dpkg | blacklist is probably Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 16:30.49 | WoodyWoodpecker | tux2007: Try setting the PCM volume level down and the master volume up. |
| 16:31.13 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: It is nowere definded 'yet'. |
| 16:31.22 | WoodyWoodpecker | man iptables maybe |
| 16:31.26 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: How activate you it ? |
| 16:31.36 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Like i have not use iptable, ............. |
| 16:31.46 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: man ip6tables |
| 16:31.51 | tux2007 | WoodyWoodpecker, i already do this. |
| 16:32.27 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: What do you want to activate? |
| 16:32.51 | WoodyWoodpecker | '#iptables may help too. ##networking also |
| 16:32.52 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I want to desactivate ipv6 over ipv4. |
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| 16:33.19 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: BTW im not sure i need to do that, but like it got some strange network troubles i want to give it an try |
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| 16:33.32 | WoodyWoodpecker | You have it deactivated if you don't have the nessusary module loaded. |
| 16:34.01 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I not know, idem where to look :-/ |
| 16:34.43 | ram_einstein | I have a problem with my ipod. The FAT filesystem seems to be damaged. Can I somehow repair it without losing the generic software on it that drives it? |
| 16:34.45 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Im still on ipv4 and my isp also, so i not need ipv6 and i think that i also not need ipv6 over ipv4 |
| 16:35.07 | itchi | ram_einstein: First, make an copy of it. Before ... |
| 16:35.18 | itchi | ram_einstein: I mean of that partition |
| 16:35.30 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: If you don't even have the "ipv6" module loaded, nothing will happen |
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| 16:36.02 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: !blacklist |
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| 16:36.06 | ram_einstein | I'm trying. It's half-damaged anyway and it's copying out half the files |
| 16:36.13 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: He is loaded for an unknow reason :-/ A bug in the Etch (or in the migration process)?? |
| 16:36.15 | WoodyWoodpecker | Read and follow the instructions. |
| 16:36.31 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Yes, i put it on the /kill_list/ :-) |
| 16:36.32 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: wysiwyg :D That is no bug. |
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| 16:36.59 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Myeah, im not aggree |
| 16:37.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | Then unload all other modules that ipv6 depend on and then unload it too. |
| 16:37.17 | ram_einstein | itchi: will it do any good half-copying out something? |
| 16:37.18 | WoodyWoodpecker | "you don't agree" |
| 16:37.18 | raf256 | debian's fire fox 1.5 is useless shit. |
| 16:37.26 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: The others i can unload, just (the main)ipv6 not :-/ |
| 16:37.36 | raf256 | are firefox developers mentally retarded? it keeps crashing all the time. on most computers I know |
| 16:37.36 | tux2007 | raf256, ??? |
| 16:37.44 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: Yup, i'm so bad with enlgish :-/ |
| 16:37.48 | itchi | oela |
| 16:37.50 | raf256 | tux2007: firefox is TERRIBLE unstable, since 1.5.x |
| 16:37.52 | tonsofpcs | raf256: now he arent |
| 16:37.59 | tux2007 | raf256, never a crash. |
| 16:38.00 | blondie | raf256: well it's certainly rather memory hungry, but haven't had problems with it crashing |
| 16:38.13 | raf256 | tux2007: meany ppls observed this problem, not just me |
| 16:38.26 | raf256 | tux2007: especially it crashes when starting kaffeine plugin, like to play a movie |
| 16:38.42 | tux2007 | dont'use it ;) |
| 16:38.44 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: no, copy everything "pmound /dev/ipod ipod; cp -Rf /media/ipod /home/$(whoami)" |
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| 16:39.21 | WoodyWoodpecker | raf256: stfu ! Do it better and don't use it at all ! |
| 16:39.33 | raf256 | WoodyWoodpecker: that will not fix firefox |
| 16:39.38 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: It's failing at some sectors, but okay. I did that |
| 16:39.48 | WoodyWoodpecker | raf256: But bitching and complaning will not either ! |
| 16:40.02 | raf256 | WoodyWoodpecker: I wonder how to debug.. gdb run firefox? |
| 16:40.08 | raf256 | or should I install some firefox-dbg? |
| 16:40.08 | pumpkin0 | i´m running testing on a laptop. i want to create a second debian-install on that laptop, but with a preselected list of packages, w/o cd/dvd´s and with 0 user interaction. some sort of "debbootstrap /mnt/newinstall ; apt-get install --base-dir /mnt/newinstall <list-of-packages>" ? |
| 16:40.16 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: That is bad! But as long as it works, propably good for you. |
| 16:40.24 | dabreegster | raf256: gdb firefox, then at the gdb prompt, run |
| 16:40.32 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: It's 'discover-v1.conf' now in Etch ? |
| 16:41.02 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: okay, what's next? |
| 16:41.02 | raf256 | if one installs a foo-dbg pack, then he gets other executable, or a separate file containing debug symbols or soemthing? |
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| 16:41.29 | raf256 | how to check files installed by firefox-dbg ? |
| 16:41.32 | WoodyWoodpecker | pumpkin0: Use dpkg --get-selection > my.selection and install that. Do the same with debconf stuff. |
| 16:41.36 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: It's looks that '/msg dpkg blacklist' not match here |
| 16:41.38 | raf256 | *what files are installed with |
| 16:41.54 | WoodyWoodpecker | itchi: I don't know. I am not a lot around #debian |
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| 16:42.18 | dabreegster | raf256: /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.list but that assumes foo is installed. I'm sure packages.debian.org lists it somewhere. Or maybe apt-file could list things, since its db has that info anyway. |
| 16:42.19 | ram_einstein | raf256: dpkg -L firefox-dbg |
| 16:42.30 | raf256 | ram_einstein: thanks |
| 16:42.36 | ram_einstein | np |
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| 16:43.27 | ram_einstein | do we have multitty version of emacs in our repos? |
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| 16:43.46 | itchi | WoodyWoodpecker: I looking to ;-) |
| 16:43.55 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: Use cfdisk or some programm from "dosfstools" to format the entire partition. |
| 16:44.52 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: Looka at "dpkg -L firefox_foobar_package" |
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| 16:45.15 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: sorry, I meant raf256 |
| 16:45.26 | WoodyWoodpecker | raf256: Looka at "dpkg -L firefox_foobar_package" |
| 16:45.42 | WoodyWoodpecker | s/Looka/Look/ |
| 16:45.57 | raf256 | WoodyWoodpecker: heah Im installing debug symbols and will run firefox'es ass via gdb |
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| 16:46.34 | raf256 | have no ph33r, teh gdb is here |
| 16:46.42 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: cfdisk? okay |
| 16:46.44 | itchi | brb, rebooting |
| 16:47.09 | simonrvn | ram_einstein: you mean a la elserv (attach elsewhere sorta thing)? |
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| 16:47.20 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: did the cfdisk? You could propably do the same with some program from "dosfstools". mkfs.fat or something |
| 16:47.36 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: then copy over the data again. |
| 16:48.16 | samuel | anyone know if i can safely delete libnss-db? |
| 16:48.24 | HelmutG | Is there a good reason for why some games run quite exactly ten times faster on my machine? (Detail: It's a Samsung and the rtc module does not work, genrtc is used instead.) |
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| 16:48.42 | Ens | anyone familiar with getting pci boards to work in debian m68k? |
| 16:48.45 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: Right. I'll do that |
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| 16:48.57 | ram_einstein | simonrvn: pardon? |
| 16:49.02 | azeem | Ens: probably not in here |
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| 16:49.18 | Ens | damn, anyplace else i should look? |
| 16:49.27 | azeem | Ens: try #debian-68k on irc.debian.org |
| 16:49.28 | WoodyWoodpecker | samuel: Try it. Or look at dpkg -l libnss-db |
| 16:49.34 | Ens | ok, thanks. |
| 16:50.30 | samuel | WoodyWoodpecker, any way i can find what installed package recomends or suggests a lib? |
| 16:50.38 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: Done. I used mkfs.vfat |
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| 16:50.55 | ram_einstein | unfortunately, after I copied over the data, the problem persisted |
| 16:51.09 | WoodyWoodpecker | samuel: yes, you can read dpkg -l "packagename" |
| 16:51.10 | ram_einstein | then I delted the non-crucial files |
| 16:51.24 | ram_einstein | the issue was that there was some half-written music |
| 16:51.28 | WoodyWoodpecker | samuel: No, I mean apt-cache show "packagename" |
| 16:51.29 | ram_einstein | s/some/lot! |
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| 16:51.56 | ram_einstein | samuel: aptitude show foo |
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| 16:52.10 | ram_einstein | it gives you more comprehensive info |
| 16:52.15 | ram_einstein | and aptitiude remove foo |
| 16:52.20 | ram_einstein | will suggest |
| 16:52.21 | WoodyWoodpecker | ram_einstein: Then either the hardware is broken or bad file format. |
| 16:52.44 | ram_einstein | WoodyWoodpecker: :) just bad data. Thanks |
| 16:52.52 | ram_einstein | I managed to get rid of the bad data by hand |
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| 16:53.10 | ram_einstein | it was half-written music not linked to the DB (ie. orphaned) |
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| 16:53.54 | samuel | but how do i see what packages suggest or recommend foo? |
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| 16:54.12 | ram_einstein | samuel: aptitude show foo |
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| 16:55.33 | simonrvn | how about man aptitude? ;) |
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| 17:02.18 | DrusT | hi |
| 17:02.47 | DrusT | sombody know shared compilation ? |
| 17:03.00 | azeem | try to be more specific |
| 17:03.32 | DrusT | i would like to use two computers to compile the linux kernel |
| 17:03.34 | abrotman | dictcc ? |
| 17:03.38 | DrusT | yes, distcc |
| 17:04.12 | DrusT | i am searching how to configure make-kpkg to use distcc |
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| 17:04.52 | HelmutG | DrusT: I'd suggest something like MAKEFLAGS=CC=distcc make-kpkg |
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| 17:05.17 | DrusT | thanks Heartsbane, I will test it |
| 17:05.22 | HelmutG | DrusT: or ln each compiler to distcc and put that in your $PATH |
| 17:05.32 | HelmutG | DrusT: ln -s to be precise |
| 17:05.59 | HelmutG | DrusT: you can also use ccache and instruct it to use distcc |
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| 17:06.22 | HelmutG | DrusT: CCACHE_PREFIX=distcc would be that |
| 17:06.55 | samuel | ok, i think im not explaining myself correctly... i have a package, foo... and i want to know what OTHER packages recommend foo... can that be done? |
| 17:07.34 | cylix | I just started using Debian from Gentoo is there a console based comand for searching for installable packages like the synapics search feature? |
| 17:07.46 | HelmutG | What reasons might exist for programs using timers (such as games) running precisely ten times faster than normal? |
| 17:07.49 | pumpkin0 | cylix: aptitude ? |
| 17:07.50 | samuel | apt-cache search |
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| 17:08.27 | dayi2 | is it he same thing NAT and ip aliasing? |
| 17:08.34 | abrotman | cylix: man apt-cache .. man aptitude |
| 17:08.49 | abrotman | HelmutG: good fortune? :) |
| 17:09.08 | cylix | I tried dpkg -l but It only lists packages I have install or in the /var/cache/archives. |
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| 17:09.29 | abrotman | cylix: aptitude search <searchterm1> <searchterm2> .. etc |
| 17:09.34 | HelmutG | abrotman: that's no fun. ever tried to play an assault game for 5 minutes in 30 seconds? |
| 17:09.35 | ram_einstein | cylix: apt-get, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, dselect |
| 17:09.44 | abrotman | HelmutG: turn off the turbo key |
| 17:09.52 | pumpkin0 | cylix: dpkg => packages that are installed, apt-XXX or atipitude => everything the server has. |
| 17:10.11 | HelmutG | abrotman: I alread stepped the cpu down to 800Mhz, but ut uses only about 30% of that. |
| 17:10.17 | cylix | abrotman, Thx channel lag couldn't see your answer. :-) |
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| 17:11.43 | valdyn | HelmutG: use a newer kernel or switch off acpi |
| 17:12.00 | HelmutG | valdyn: newer than 2.6.17? |
| 17:12.10 | HelmutG | valdyn: why should acpi be a matter? |
| 17:12.13 | abrotman | pshaw .. i'm up to 2.7.32 |
| 17:12.31 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: do you have a dual-core ? |
| 17:12.53 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: not it's pentium m in a centrino notebook. |
| 17:13.19 | HelmutG | nearly everything runs well (except for some infrequent kernel freezes) |
| 17:13.29 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: is the "wallclock" also running faster, or just the games ? |
| 17:13.36 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: just games |
| 17:13.56 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: but the clock within games is running ten times faster too. |
| 17:14.27 | cylix | Thx all! |
| 17:15.12 | raf256` | can I install easly xgl in debian testing, does it work ok? |
| 17:15.21 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: disable cpu-freqency scaling. (i.e. remove acpi and apm from the kernel). |
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| 17:15.35 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: a good reason for why? |
| 17:15.50 | azeem | raf256`: no |
| 17:16.08 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: this is no problem on an athlon 64 x2 3800+ scaled down to 1Ghz. |
| 17:16.16 | zinx | HelmutG: you can temporarily disable CPU frequency scaling |
| 17:16.25 | madclicker | i am running etch with 2.6.16. I have two SATA drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb also four SD card readers on the side of my monitor (/dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, dev/sde and /dev/sdf) the kernel on every second reboot swaps the usb card readers to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and the SATA drives to /dev/sde and /dev/sdf causing the system not to boot. How can i fix this issue? |
| 17:16.27 | HelmutG | zinx: by setting the performance governor. |
| 17:16.39 | zinx | HelmutG: a lot of games use completely retarded timing, which relies on the CPU frequency. UT2K*, and many windows games, for example |
| 17:16.40 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: some rtc-systems cannot cope with changing freqencies. It was one of the reasons why dual-cores had some troubles in the first few kernel versions ... |
| 17:17.01 | zinx | HelmutG: you need to force it to one frequency before running the game, by whatever means, yes |
| 17:17.06 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: and it depends on the chipset/CPU combination, not only on the CPU. |
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| 17:18.17 | zinx | i wish they'd wise up and use gettimeofday() or similar |
| 17:18.24 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: no, just setting the performance gov will not solve that kind of problems. You realy have to kill off all kinds of acpi/apm. |
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| 17:18.57 | zinx | pumpkin0: he says the clock isn't running faster |
| 17:19.09 | schemebow | WTF: I think dpkg-reconfigure for gdm shows me what *dm I want to use. It only lets me choose from kdm and xdm, thus not gdm..... |
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| 17:19.24 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: hints for googling on that? |
| 17:19.27 | zinx | pumpkin0: that leads me to believe it's entirely a game problem; and even if it's not, the clock will stabilize once the frequency stops changing. even if support is still there. |
| 17:19.53 | zinx | pumpkin: 'course, i suppose it might stabilize at too fast a rate :D |
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| 17:20.06 | pumpkin0 | zinx: games use (most-of-the-time) rtc, the kernel may use something else for his timekeeping. If the genrtc is broken mostgames run faster/slower, but the wallclock just runs fine. |
| 17:20.29 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: stupid question: have you ever tried to disable your genrtc ... ? |
| 17:20.32 | zinx | pumpkin: and locking the frequency will make that work |
| 17:20.44 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: I have tried with genrtc and rtc, |
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| 17:21.02 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: (where rtc causes timeouts while booting without hpet=disable) |
| 17:21.02 | synic | anyone know how to disable bold text in aterm? |
| 17:21.03 | zinx | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq for example |
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| 17:21.49 | synic | or in xterm? |
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| 17:23.28 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: disabling rtc at all does not help either. |
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| 17:24.17 | pumpkin0 | HelmutG: how did you disable it ? |
| 17:24.23 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: rmmod? |
| 17:26.03 | raf256 | !nvidia one liner |
| 17:26.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 17:27.18 | k31th | Wats best way of copying dirs from one linux box to another keeping perms and ownership ? |
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| 17:27.39 | zinx | k31th: cp -a, or tar. |
| 17:27.49 | pumpkin0 | k31th: rsync |
| 17:27.54 | zinx | k31th: you need to take special care to make sure the uids are the same |
| 17:27.56 | k31th | zinx: from one box to another using internet |
| 17:28.16 | k31th | scp dont seem to keep owner ships etc. |
| 17:28.32 | k31th | pumpkin0: i have copied most user and groups over tbh |
| 17:28.44 | zinx | k31th: with -p? |
| 17:28.46 | HelmutG | pumpkin0: prboom is not that fast. |
| 17:29.06 | k31th | i tried -p |
| 17:29.06 | zinx | HelmutG: many games use completely braindead timing. that's the way it is. |
| 17:29.07 | RTFM-N00B | moin helmut |
| 17:29.11 | RTFM-N00B | was geht |
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| 17:29.29 | jeanseb | hi |
| 17:29.36 | jeanseb | got a problem with unstable |
| 17:29.45 | RTFM-N00B | yeah? |
| 17:29.50 | jeanseb | cupd don't work since last update |
| 17:29.57 | jeanseb | cupsd |
| 17:30.18 | jeanseb | tried to set up from scratch still the same |
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| 17:30.41 | jeanseb | tell me that my paper size not supported |
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| 17:31.58 | jeanseb | error log tlel : "Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!" |
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| 17:32.08 | jeanseb | error log tells : "Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!" |
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| 17:32.43 | raf256 | what in the hell. |
| 17:32.54 | raf256 | the nvidia one liner installation failed, more then Bush in Iraq |
| 17:33.00 | raf256 | E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate |
| 17:33.08 | jeanseb | printi,ng anything on a network printer with ipp |
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| 17:34.04 | jade | how can i list all the files owned by an installed deb package? |
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| 17:34.16 | azeem | raf256: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 17:34.24 | azeem | jade: dpkg -L <package> |
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| 17:34.41 | raf256 | azeem: deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 17:34.48 | azeem | deb-src? |
| 17:34.48 | madclicker | i am running etch with 2.6.16. I have two SATA drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb also four SD card readers on the side of my monitor (/dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, dev/sde and /dev/sdf) the kernel on every second reboot swaps the usb card readers to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and the SATA drives to /dev/sde and /dev/sdf causing the system not to boot. How can i fix this issue? |
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| 17:35.04 | raf256 | azeem: ah. well the deb is the same. so: unstable debian |
| 17:35.21 | raf256 | no, wait |
| 17:35.24 | raf256 | sorry. I run testing. |
| 17:35.27 | jade | azeem, thanks |
| 17:35.27 | Hexidigital_ | can someone tell me what file to edit to disable the GUI at startup? |
| 17:35.35 | azeem | raf256: it's not available in testing |
| 17:35.51 | jeanseb | Heartsbane, check inittab |
| 17:35.58 | jeanseb | not in debian sorry |
| 17:36.03 | jeanseb | it is in rc.d |
| 17:36.04 | madclicker | Hexidigital_, inittab |
| 17:36.14 | Hexidigital_ | thx madclicker |
| 17:36.15 | raf256 | azeem: awesome. |
| 17:36.18 | jeanseb | S???dm |
| 17:36.20 | raf256 | azeem: so it is only in unstable? |
| 17:36.28 | madclicker | Hexidigital_, or sysv-rc-conf and disable X |
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| 17:37.19 | jeanseb | nobody for my cups problem ? |
| 17:37.55 | madclicker | whats with cups? |
| 17:37.57 | raf256 | so how should I install nvidia driver (the non free one) in debian testing |
| 17:38.11 | madclicker | carefully |
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| 17:38.25 | jeanseb | madclicker, not printing with unstable was ok but since last updat of cups got error |
| 17:38.42 | jeanseb | like not finding something |
| 17:38.55 | jeanseb | tells me page size not supported in the gui |
| 17:39.18 | N00B | lol |
| 17:39.25 | jeanseb | [Job 139] Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)! |
| 17:39.30 | jeanseb | that's error log |
| 17:39.30 | user- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:39.49 | jeanseb | it is ipp over http on konica 430DL |
| 17:39.53 | jeanseb | 2430DL |
| 17:39.58 | N00B | raf256 don't Ph34r m3 d00d |
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| 17:40.23 | raf256 | how to install nvidia driver in debian testing? |
| 17:41.06 | jeanseb | raf256, apt-get nvidia-kernel-source |
| 17:41.20 | wols | !tell raf256 about nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 17:41.20 | jeanseb | the untar the kernel source |
| 17:41.57 | jeanseb | !tell jeanseb about cupsys |
| 17:42.30 | jeanseb | madclicker, any hint ? |
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| 17:42.51 | jeanseb | wols, can u help about cups ? |
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| 17:43.40 | wols | dunno |
| 17:44.08 | jeanseb | configuration problem with last cups package in unstable |
| 17:44.22 | jeanseb | log sayings : "[Job 139] Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!" |
| 17:44.45 | wols | what was the format you tried to print? |
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| 17:44.53 | wols | mayb the magicfilter is broken or your program? |
| 17:45.52 | jeanseb | any format from testpage to mozilla |
| 17:46.16 | jeanseb | how to check magic filter ? |
| 17:46.39 | raf256 | the problem is |
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| 17:46.47 | raf256 | that when I install by hand nvidia.com's driver |
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| 17:46.55 | raf256 | then GLX do not work with Xorg 7 (it do with 6.9) |
| 17:47.05 | raf256 | perhaps some more links/patches are fucked up |
| 17:47.11 | madclicker | jeanseb, not a clue, i never had this problem |
| 17:47.25 | raf256 | because of changes in pathes of Xorg driver modules in debian |
| 17:47.37 | pumpkin0 | is there a simple way to purge everything left by uninstalling packages w/o the purge-option ? |
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| 17:48.19 | jeanseb | so anybody could tell me how to setup apt to use stable cups package on unstable ? |
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| 17:48.28 | jeanseb | pumpkin0, was for me ? |
| 17:49.07 | pumpkin0 | jeanseb: uhm .. no ? |
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| 17:49.16 | jeanseb | raf256, nvidia driver needs the x package version they are for |
| 17:49.53 | raf256 | jeanseb: say again> |
| 17:49.54 | raf256 | ? |
| 17:50.08 | jeanseb | my cups problem ? |
| 17:50.16 | jeanseb | no |
| 17:50.17 | raf256 | jeanseb: so what in the hell should I do to get the freaking nvidia+xorg7+glx working at all in my debian testing?! |
| 17:50.38 | jeanseb | nvidai driver use some lib from X system |
| 17:50.43 | jeanseb | and the check version |
| 17:51.12 | jeanseb | so if your driver for 6.9 they wont load with 7 |
| 17:51.23 | jeanseb | check nvidia site for last one |
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| 17:52.52 | raf256 | what the hell |
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| 17:53.30 | blondie | tantrums :S |
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| 17:55.04 | jeanseb | raf256, or wait for the new nvidia driver being package :D |
| 17:55.05 | wols | careful raf256. some of those can kick back HARD. harder than you can stomach I guess |
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| 17:55.48 | sciboy | Anyone know of any paintchat software that is cross-platform? |
| 17:56.00 | raf256` | wols: I fixed the invalid patch of some drivers by hand, after strace |
| 17:56.10 | raf256` | perhaps I can do same for the driver needed by GLX. |
| 17:56.21 | raf256` | I am stracing startx now to find which driver failed to load |
| 17:56.37 | raf256` | my god, strace is slow. |
| 17:57.09 | azeem | pipe its output to a file |
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| 17:57.22 | raf256` | azeem: of course; I used -o file |
| 17:57.47 | wols | why would it miss a driver? why do you need strace for that? |
| 17:58.02 | mne | hi, i just wanted to try out beep-media-player-2 (bmpx). Though the dbux-daemon is running, it complains that it can't connect to the message bus. any hints ? |
| 17:58.12 | raf256` | wols: X log reports that GLX module failed to load because of missing sub module |
| 17:58.19 | raf256` | but it dont say which submodule failed to load |
| 17:59.27 | axolx_ | leave |
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| 18:00.19 | cast | quick question: is there a way to run aptitude -R install pkg but have it not try and remove a whole wad of pkgs that have previously been installed due to recommendations? |
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| 18:01.07 | raf256` | it took 3 minutes to startup X with strace, wow. |
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| 18:01.42 | madclicker | kde anyone? |
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| 18:02.13 | raf256` | beer & bitches, anyone? |
| 18:02.30 | raf256` | madclicker: what "kde anyone"? are you doing a pool? |
| 18:02.41 | madclicker | is kwalletmanaget busted, it keeps on crashing |
| 18:02.50 | azeem | madclicker: check the BTS |
| 18:02.57 | raf256` | I use it on my debianm testing, it seem to work fine |
| 18:03.35 | madclicker | i have it on etch and sid, after some kde updates keeps on chrashong |
| 18:03.49 | raf256` | it took just 5 minutes to do "strace startx". And I was affraid strace is slow! |
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| 18:06.30 | smhar | I downloaded firefox and thunderbirds from mozilla site and installed them as root so they will be available to all users in this system, is this a problem? |
| 18:06.42 | pumpkin0 | smhar: nope |
| 18:06.51 | smhar | thanks pumpkin0 |
| 18:07.32 | N00B | smhar , i think you even cant instal it as non-root |
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| 18:07.32 | N00B | at lesat not without sudo |
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| 18:07.48 | abrotman | smhar: now you're over here! |
| 18:07.59 | pumpkin0 | N00B: you can install as user (even w/o sudo), but you need to hack around a bit. |
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| 18:08.06 | ma3x | hey my colleague received a virus .exe file and my email is listed in that email |
| 18:08.06 | ma3x | I am listed as the sender |
| 18:08.14 | ma3x | and that email contains an attachment (virus). can I identify something from the .exe file? |
| 18:08.48 | stew | ma3x: if you are trying to figure out where the virus email originated, you want to look at the |
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| 18:08.58 | stew | ...Received: headers of the email |
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| 18:09.32 | pumpkin0 | ma3x: use any virus-scanner ... (emails can be forged way too easily to track them all down) |
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| 18:10.00 | smhar | abrotman, I had few problem with both ff and tb but didn't have time for them, I was busy building my blog, now I can try to make them work better for me :-) |
| 18:10.57 | jeanseb | aie |
| 18:11.00 | smhar | abrotman, I hope this is not a problem :-) |
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| 18:12.20 | nosklo | to change a "Provides:" i have to rebuild the entire package? |
| 18:12.35 | smhar | abrotman, btw, I am always here, this channel opens automatically whenever I run xchat, along with other channels :-) |
| 18:12.44 | abrotman | smhar: i know .. i've seen you here before |
| 18:13.01 | nosklo | do i have to rebuild the entire package just to change a "Provides:" ? |
| 18:13.08 | nosklo | in the control file? |
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| 18:16.55 | raf256` | I am awesome. |
| 18:17.04 | stoned | good <insert local time here> |
| 18:17.13 | raf256` | I debugged the xorg bug with strace all by myself \o/ |
| 18:17.27 | raf256` | it sems that the missing submodule is GLcore |
| 18:17.35 | ma3x | stew, can you help me identify something? I will paste the headers of the email |
| 18:17.41 | raf256` | seems even. that causes GLX to fail in xorg 7 |
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| 18:21.30 | pumpkin0 | raf256`: http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362868 |
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| 18:22.45 | raf256` | pumpkin0: thanks |
| 18:22.49 | kepht | how can i get VLC installed on etch? |
| 18:23.11 | abrotman | kepht: it's not currently available |
| 18:23.19 | abrotman | kepht: you can do it .. but it's tricky |
| 18:23.26 | abrotman | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 18:23.26 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 18:23.56 | kepht | thanks, abrotman |
| 18:25.03 | wols | marillat not wanting to add it to his? |
| 18:25.19 | abrotman | wols: vlc should be free .. the RC bug seems odd .. but oh well |
| 18:25.23 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 18:25.25 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:25.46 | jraasch | Hey eveyone, I am having troubles with xserver getting a specific resolution to display on my new widescreen lcd. I manually specified the resolution 1680x1050 in the xfree86 config file and when the xserver starts it displays at 640x380.. I checked the log file and it says "Not using mode "1680x1050" no mode of this name". anyone know what I am doing wrong ? |
| 18:25.47 | wols | abrotman: same reason as mplayer bascially: licenses |
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| 18:26.34 | Diman | hi all |
| 18:26.36 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: you post the config-file somewhere ? |
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| 18:26.54 | jraasch | what is a dump site i can use? |
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| 18:27.22 | abrotman | wols: lazy maintainer! |
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| 18:27.30 | pollywog | since I upgraded to the kernel released yesterday as a bug fix, I get this: |
| 18:27.35 | pollywog | modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp (/lib/modules/2.6.9/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 18:27.39 | pumpkin0 | !tell jraasch paster |
| 18:27.43 | abrotman | !paster |
| 18:27.44 | dpkg | i heard pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 18:28.09 | pollywog | I get a similar error for shpchp |
| 18:28.23 | wols | mplayer folks aren't lazy I'd say, they're just pissed with debian :) |
| 18:28.36 | pollywog | wols: why is that? |
| 18:29.08 | wols | big flamefest once over licenses on debian MLs |
| 18:29.18 | pollywog | what is the best alternative to mplayer... Xine? |
| 18:29.28 | pollywog | oic |
| 18:29.52 | wols | mostly three choices: mplayer, xine and vlc. first two also have UIs on top of them available |
| 18:30.15 | cahoot | jraasch: does this apply to your problem maybe? http://linuxmint.com/content/view/212/52/ |
| 18:30.17 | jraasch | here is the config file: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2968 |
| 18:30.34 | pumpkin0 | pollywog: most important libs are not available on debian. So if you take the trouble to install any player, you may as well go with the full set. |
| 18:30.44 | pollywog | btw I installed kernel 2.6.9 on Sarge and I get the same error I posted above |
| 18:30.53 | pollywog | from kernel.org |
| 18:31.24 | pollywog | Pumpkin0 you mean I should install all 3 players? |
| 18:31.34 | pollywog | I think I have two of them |
| 18:31.39 | jraasch | cahoot: i have a agp nvidia mx4000 video card, do you think that could still apply to me |
| 18:31.39 | pollywog | not vlc |
| 18:31.55 | pumpkin0 | pollywog: no. Install any player, but use the inoffical version, not the debian stock version. |
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| 18:32.13 | pollywog | Pumpkin0: I use the one in Marillat |
| 18:32.27 | pollywog | been called a traitor for it ;) |
| 18:33.09 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: remove the line HorizSync and VertRefresh from the monitorsection. And post the xfree-log too... |
| 18:33.28 | jraasch | pumpkin0, ok, thanks |
| 18:33.56 | pumpkin0 | pollywog: my offical opinion: yes, you are a traitor. my real opinion: i use it myself. |
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| 18:34.18 | pollywog | Pumpkin0: spoken like a politician ;) |
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| 18:35.24 | raf256` | pumpkin0: my error is different |
| 18:35.29 | raf256` | I dont have the load GLcore line |
| 18:35.41 | pollywog | marillat seems to be down still |
| 18:35.53 | jraasch | here is the log file : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2969 |
| 18:36.17 | pumpkin0 | pollywog: marillat changed servers, there is a new url ... |
| 18:36.23 | pollywog | k thanks |
| 18:36.43 | raf256` | where are now all Xorg extensions placed in debian? |
| 18:36.50 | pollywog | k I think I found it |
| 18:36.53 | raf256` | there was a path change |
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| 18:38.06 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: is this after or before you removed the 2 lines ? |
| 18:38.17 | jraasch | before |
| 18:38.32 | jraasch | i just removed the lines and did a reboot, i will see what happens now |
| 18:39.05 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: restart the server (not reboot) and post a fresh log. I think xfree is not querying the TFT´s values |
| 18:39.28 | stew | raf256`: /usr/lib |
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| 18:39.52 | jraasch | well it restarted already, sorry, I didnt know if it would create a new log if i just restarted x |
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| 18:40.22 | jraasch | yea, it is still at the 640 res... |
| 18:40.28 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: it does. ctrl-alt-backspace is the shortcut for a clean restart of the X-server. |
| 18:41.05 | abrotman | simonrvn: ping! |
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| 18:41.11 | jraasch | oh yea...forgot about that.. |
| 18:41.16 | raf256` | stew: damn, I indeed dont have any GLcore in ther |
| 18:41.18 | raf256` | *there |
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| 18:42.10 | stew | raf256`: iirc, install libglu1-xorg |
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| 18:43.33 | raf256` | stew: but, is GLcore needed at all? |
| 18:43.45 | stew | raf256`: i don't know |
| 18:43.49 | raf256` | it seems that nvidia.com's nvidia GLX module loads GLcore |
| 18:43.53 | raf256` | is that ok? |
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| 18:44.18 | jraasch | is there a way to force detect a jump drive so i can put the new log on there.. ? |
| 18:44.24 | raf256` | stew: I do have libglu1-xorg already |
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| 18:44.56 | raf256` | stew:but that pack do not provide GLcore.so nor anyhing |
| 18:44.58 | stew | raf256`: i don't know then |
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| 18:45.13 | stew | raf256`: /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.060402 |
| 18:45.18 | raf256` | how to check what package provides GLcore.so or similar? |
| 18:45.27 | stew | raf256`: or something similar |
| 18:45.28 | raf256` | stew: what package provieds that file |
| 18:45.39 | stew | raf256`: libglu1-mesa |
| 18:45.49 | raf256` | but mesa is emulation, I have real nvidia |
| 18:45.56 | stew | i don't know about that |
| 18:46.13 | pumpkin0 | raf256`: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libGLcore.so&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
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| 18:46.57 | raf256` | but I wonder, do I need GLcore, is it ok that nvidia.com nvidia GLX module try to load GLcore apparently? |
| 18:47.34 | N00B | i have a question about ircd on debian |
| 18:48.12 | N00B | how can i make that thingie, so that people can register |
| 18:48.28 | N00B | you know, that nickserv and chanserv thingie |
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| 18:49.09 | raf256` | apt-get install thingie |
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| 18:51.14 | N00B | raf256` thx |
| 18:51.23 | abrotman | N00B: check the docs for your ircd |
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| 18:51.50 | N00B | hm, already done |
| 18:51.55 | N00B | ill check again |
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| 18:55.38 | vlt | Hello. My root partition is small, so I tried to symlink /root/Maildir/new to another partition. Now I don't get any mail. syslog: "... status=bounced (maildir delivery failed: link to /root/Maildir/new/1151xxxxxxxxx: Invalid cross-device link ..:" Why is it invalid? |
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| 18:56.00 | strobedream | hey can someone post their sources.list... I borked mine |
| 18:56.04 | MickMcMack | !ati |
| 18:56.05 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
| 18:56.13 | MickMcMack | !fglrx |
| 18:56.14 | dpkg | from memory, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 18:56.17 | abrotman | strobedream: apt-setup |
| 18:56.21 | abrotman | MickMcMack: msg the bot |
| 18:56.22 | strobedream | .... |
| 18:56.29 | strobedream | abrotman: thats busted.... |
| 18:56.33 | abrotman | that's busted? |
| 18:56.37 | MickMcMack | Sorry abrotman. :x |
| 18:56.39 | abrotman | is this on sarge? |
| 18:56.44 | strobedream | I got nvidia working and suddenly all of apt ate it |
| 18:56.44 | strobedream | yeah |
| 18:56.48 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 18:56.53 | abrotman | it will make a new sources.list for you |
| 18:57.01 | abrotman | or comment out all the ones there now .. and run it |
| 18:57.05 | strobedream | apt-setup doesn't exist on my machine |
| 18:57.11 | abrotman | then it's nto sarge |
| 18:57.13 | strobedream | ohhh |
| 18:57.18 | strobedream | ... |
| 18:57.20 | strobedream | great |
| 18:57.34 | abrotman | strobedream: debian.org/mirrors .. quite a large number .. but in general |
| 18:58.05 | abrotman | strobedream: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian <sarge|etch> main (non-free|contrib) |
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| 18:58.29 | raf256` | awesome. |
| 18:58.44 | raf256` | now X crashes when using open gl |
| 18:58.50 | raf256` | fucking GLX in Xorg 7. |
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| 18:58.53 | itchi | strobedream: Look in the pkg base-conf or so |
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| 18:59.40 | itchi | strobedream: '/msg dpkg sources.list' talk about it |
| 19:00.10 | itchi | strobedream: For the ^^ apt-setup |
| 19:00.28 | strobedream | thanks |
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| 19:01.12 | itchi | right, i have eat a bit, let's continue to hack now, and try to find my trouble :-/ |
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| 19:01.58 | itchi | raf256: ati or nvidia ? |
| 19:02.15 | raf256` | itchi: nvidia |
| 19:02.25 | ceplma | how can I configure networkmanager connections -- I would need to set up different relayhost servers for postfix on different networks? I thought about some magic in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/, but is there any better solution? |
| 19:02.25 | itchi | raf256: Try to look to the /var/log/xfree or xorg to see about what he complain. Or post it on a paster |
| 19:03.03 | raf256` | mhm |
| 19:03.16 | itchi | raf256: Find why he complain ? |
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| 19:03.42 | wols | #psotfix |
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| 19:04.51 | raf256` | itchi: not yet, trying to again reinstall nvdia driver |
| 19:04.52 | rohan | the debian linux-kbuild bug which caused the headers not to install, is there any know solution / |
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| 19:05.12 | shwag | I am logged into a machine with a LSI Logical Fusion-MPT SCSI controller. Is there any way to get additional information about the drive configuration from the command line, or is this only possible in the cards BIOS ? |
| 19:05.19 | itchi | raf256: No, look to the log or set it on the net, if you want that we help |
| 19:05.43 | raf256` | itchi: btw can I increase verbosity level of X? |
| 19:06.11 | itchi | raf256: I not know, the log of it, i begin to better understand it |
| 19:06.21 | rohan | more specifically, is there any solution to bug http://bugs.debian.org/368667 |
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| 19:06.37 | kbrooks | does synaptic support --instal? |
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| 19:07.01 | kbrooks | or at least a cli option which installs in one run |
| 19:07.10 | itchi | kbrooks: What mean you ? |
| 19:07.12 | kbrooks | !ops porn bot named dodo |
| 19:07.19 | itchi | kbrooks: You want to install somethings ? |
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| 19:08.38 | raf256` | DoDo: if with pron spamming your are, then shut up, the fuck, you must. |
| 19:08.59 | itchi | kbrooks: How you know it's an pr0n0 bot ? |
| 19:09.03 | stew | raf256`: that's not necessary |
| 19:09.06 | rohan | is there anyway to have apt 'ignore' a package, like while dist-upgrade i want to upgrade all but a pkg foo .. is it possible ? |
| 19:09.15 | stew | rohan: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 19:09.35 | kbrooks | raf256: he is |
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| 19:09.37 | rohan | stew: oh, but no way apart from holding it / |
| 19:09.39 | raf256` | where the fuck is "your X log file"? |
| 19:09.52 | rohan | stew: like, apt-get dist-upgrade --ignore foo / |
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| 19:10.03 | kbrooks | yes |
| 19:10.07 | stew | rohan: i don't believe so |
| 19:10.07 | kbrooks | !ops |
| 19:10.08 | cusco | anyone knows about a software that can record your screen? like to make thos presentation demos howtos etc.. normally to swf format |
| 19:10.21 | rohan | stew: ok, thanks :) |
| 19:10.30 | itchi | raf256: /var/log/XFree86.0.log ?? |
| 19:10.34 | raf256` | cusco: get VNC, then google VNC flash or VNC record |
| 19:10.37 | kbrooks | question! |
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| 19:10.50 | cusco | raf256`: CHEERS |
| 19:10.51 | cusco | oops |
| 19:10.56 | cusco | thanks |
| 19:11.00 | kbrooks | I want ops please |
| 19:11.01 | raf256` | itchi: /var/log/Xorg.0.log have text next to my bug: "fo0r more info look to X log file" wtf!!Q |
| 19:11.04 | marco13185 | how do you make apt-get retrieve the source and build it instead of using binary packages? |
| 19:11.05 | kbrooks | and NOW |
| 19:11.08 | stew | kbrooks: why? |
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| 19:11.16 | kbrooks | stew: no, i mean |
| 19:11.28 | kbrooks | stew: "i want a op please" |
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| 19:11.32 | stew | kbrooks: why? |
| 19:11.44 | RichiH | kbrooks: why? |
| 19:11.52 | jkanstyle | hi... im trying to install debian on the computer I just built (the motherboard is an Asus with gb ethernet) and the debian installer doesn't detect the ethernet.. what should i do? |
| 19:11.53 | kbrooks | a porno bot is consistently pming everyone on join |
| 19:11.57 | itchi | raf256: I guess it's that crap of nvidia that are not clear and have put it there |
| 19:11.57 | hugo | Is there a way to optain an older debian kernel-image (2.6.11)? |
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| 19:11.58 | raf256__ | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X |
| 19:11.58 | raf256__ | (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X |
| 19:12.05 | RichiH | thanks |
| 19:12.08 | itchi | raf256: Simply |
| 19:12.21 | itchi | raf256: It's that module loaded ? |
| 19:12.30 | kbrooks | RichiH: thanks |
| 19:12.32 | raf256` | itchi: in xorg.conf I load modules |
| 19:12.34 | stew | i don't understand why i never ever have gotten /msged by a pornbot, even when we were having tons and tons of them |
| 19:12.59 | kbrooks | stew: they only msg you on join |
| 19:13.01 | raf256__ | I load module like "glx", but I do not load manually module "GLcore" |
| 19:13.04 | stew | i remember when there were always instructions in the /topic about how to avoid them but i never once have been /msged by them |
| 19:13.08 | pollywog | stew: they know you don't like that stuff |
| 19:13.13 | stew | kbrooks: i /cycled after you complained the first time |
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| 19:14.32 | RichiH | kbrooks: feel free to join #freenode-social or do /stats p when you have onjoin spam |
| 19:14.34 | itchi | raf256: Is there not other interesting informations in the log ? |
| 19:14.40 | RichiH | that's not a channel, but a server issue |
| 19:14.47 | pollywog | I had never heard of a pornbot |
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| 19:15.07 | pollywog | and I thought that stuff was for dalnet and undernet |
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| 19:15.51 | hugo | How good does it work to use a backported 2.6.16 kernel with sarge? |
| 19:15.55 | kbrooks | RichiH: ok |
| 19:16.04 | itchi | I not get any pr0n0 msg of that bot :-/ |
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| 19:16.34 | itchi | arg, dodo is gone ... |
| 19:19.03 | raf256` | itchi: found it: cant AGAIN load GLcore. the reason is simple |
| 19:19.16 | raf256` | glcore is in /usr/lib/ not in /usr/lib/xorg |
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| 19:21.03 | stew | raf256`: does your xorg.conf point to /usr/lib/xorg? |
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| 19:22.05 | raf256` | stew: hmm I think so, all other modules are there |
| 19:22.26 | stew | raf256`: can you put your xorg.conf into a pastebin? |
| 19:22.30 | aarkerio | hi! I get an "Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller" |
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| 19:22.34 | stew | raf256`: i don't think your xorg.conf should be pointing there |
| 19:22.55 | aarkerio | somebody knows how can I set the direct rendering? |
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| 19:23.46 | pumpkin0 | aardvarq: well... which debian-version, which X-server ? |
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| 19:25.46 | jraasch | hey pumpkin0, this was the new log created with that resolution issue: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2971 |
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| 19:26.28 | aarkerio | debian SID, Xorg = 7.0.22 |
| 19:27.03 | stew | !dw aarkerio Xorg69To7 |
| 19:27.03 | dpkg | aarkerio: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 19:27.05 | aarkerio | I suppse I need the GLX librarias, but I only see the nvidia y ATI |
| 19:27.17 | aarkerio | okas, thanks! |
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| 19:28.09 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: it fails to get any ddc-information from the TFT. And the drivers think there are more then 1 monitor connected ... ? are you on debian stable ? |
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| 19:31.46 | raf256 | http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17143 |
| 19:32.28 | raf256 | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so |
| 19:32.28 | raf256 | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: _nv000035gl |
| 19:32.28 | raf256 | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so |
| 19:32.43 | raf256 | hmm am I doing it correctly? |
| 19:32.52 | raf256 | where form should I get the GLcore X module? |
| 19:32.53 | jraasch | pumpkin0, yea, debian stable i believe |
| 19:32.59 | raf256 | how to reinstall entire X system to be shure? |
| 19:33.48 | blondie | "how to" does not a question make |
| 19:33.55 | raf256 | where does apt-get keep instalations history? |
| 19:33.58 | jraasch | pumpkin0, what is the ddc-information |
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| 19:34.46 | YogSothoth | Hi! |
| 19:34.58 | YogSothoth | How can I change the language of my Debian? |
| 19:34.59 | stew | raf256`: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 19:35.01 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: did you install a closed-source nivida driver or did you go with the standard one ? "ddc" is a com-link between the gfx and the monitor. Basicly the gfx ask: "who are you" and the monitor listes all modes it supports. |
| 19:35.07 | stew | YogSothoth: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 19:35.15 | YogSothoth | thanks stew! |
| 19:35.22 | raf256 | please help, stew: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17144 |
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| 19:36.06 | jraasch | I havent fired this machine up for a few months now, but I remember installing the nvidia drivers from whatever the latest was at the time from their site |
| 19:36.24 | YogSothoth | stew, I see a lot of choice for "en". What is the most standard? |
| 19:36.28 | raf256 | how to reinstall all related to X/Xorg, just to be shure I got all what is needed? |
| 19:36.33 | itchi | oeps, itchi was playing with torcs |
| 19:36.49 | stoned | jraasch, maybe update and upgrade. If the new kernel complains of the nvidia module, somply recompile it witth module assistant |
| 19:36.59 | stew | raf256`: you are having problems with the non-free version of glx, i can't help with that |
| 19:37.07 | itchi | raf256: Have you try to look to /msg dpkg setup x |
| 19:37.08 | raf256 | stew: why? |
| 19:37.23 | YogSothoth | stew, EN_US.UTF8? |
| 19:37.27 | raf256 | itchi: take look at my paste above please. it seems I got the wrong GLcore. whre to get the correct one? |
| 19:37.30 | stew | YogSothoth: yes |
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| 19:37.34 | itchi | raf256: It's so closed :-/ that non-free |
| 19:37.41 | hugo | Will I break things if I install a 2.6.16 kernel from backports into my sarge system? |
| 19:37.59 | abrotman | hugo: well .. hopefully not eh? :) |
| 19:38.06 | jraasch | ok, I think i will boot to the simply mepis cd wich seems to have a few newer packages, maybe that is all i need to do is update and upgrade |
| 19:38.08 | raf256 | itchi: ? |
| 19:38.10 | itchi | raf256: You have it install it in the non-debian way ? |
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| 19:38.23 | jraasch | btw, this ferarri monitor is fricken awsome |
| 19:38.33 | raf256 | itchi: noone told me how to do it debian way. |
| 19:38.35 | itchi | raf256: Be sure that the free one are not loaded. Yeah i have look to the link |
| 19:38.38 | hugo | abrotman: But doesn't 2.6.16 depend on udev? |
| 19:38.44 | YogSothoth | stew, I just applied the change but my system is still in French. Should I restart? |
| 19:38.45 | raf256 | itchi: I was told that nvidia one liner do not work on testing |
| 19:38.46 | itchi | raf256: Sarge ? |
| 19:38.48 | raf256 | hugo: it do |
| 19:38.50 | raf256 | itchi: testing |
| 19:38.56 | abrotman | hugo: it might .. does that bother you? |
| 19:39.22 | pumpkin0 | jraasch: just updateing to testing should already make a difference. |
| 19:39.26 | itchi | raf256: The debian-way in Testing is not working at this stage i think :-/ I have not install it ala debian :-/ |
| 19:39.29 | jelly-home | hmm, there's a skype beta with alsa support |
| 19:39.34 | stew | YogSothoth: you would need to log out and back in |
| 19:39.34 | hugo | abrotman: Not if the necessary udev apps will be installed as well, will they? |
| 19:39.35 | YogSothoth | stew, or should I reinstall packages that was installed before? |
| 19:39.45 | abrotman | hugo: you'd think so |
| 19:39.53 | YogSothoth | stew, I just did, and for example wget is still displaying messages in French |
| 19:40.13 | stew | YogSothoth: check your LANG and LANGUAGE environment variables |
| 19:40.32 | itchi | raf256: Try to reinstall it ?? Yes, i know to it's verry crap that non-debian way, but in awaiting ... |
| 19:40.43 | jraasch | ok, ill try that, brb thanks |
| 19:41.20 | itchi | raf256: Backup you're old Xorg config, take an blanc one, and reinstall ?? |
| 19:41.35 | itchi | raf256: That xorg are probably messed |
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| 19:42.34 | itchi | raf256: BTW, that free glx module or so are not loaded ? |
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| 19:43.00 | SirFunk | anyone here recommend a ~$1800 laptop for running linux on ? i'm looking at the Gateway m645 |
| 19:43.02 | YogSothoth | stew, echo $LANG => en_US.UTF-8, echo $LANGUAGE => fr_FR:fr:en_GB:en |
| 19:43.05 | hugo | but it does not look like anything but the kernel packages are being installed. |
| 19:43.16 | pumpkin0 | SirFunk: IBM T60 |
| 19:43.30 | SirFunk | *checks it out* |
| 19:43.33 | pv2b | hi. i need to compile a network card driver for the netinst disc. how can I determine the right source code tree to build against and config file in order to generate a driver which will work |
| 19:43.33 | SirFunk | oh yeah and i want dual core too |
| 19:43.59 | itchi | raf256: BTW to, remove that symlink you have previously created |
| 19:43.59 | Eulex | SirFunk, afaik the T60 has dual-core |
| 19:44.07 | pv2b | (this is for netinstlaling sarge. i have another sarge box i can use as a build machine, but it's got a slightly newer kernel version.) |
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| 19:44.27 | SirFunk | Eulex: oh yeah, it does |
| 19:44.43 | SirFunk | hmmm. the T60 is a tad more expensive than i was looking for |
| 19:44.49 | gandhijee | anyone know why i would get a disagrees about version of symbol struct_module error? |
| 19:45.18 | itchi | raf256: Some fonts troubles also ?? Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, removing from list! |
| 19:45.30 | stew | YogSothoth: looks like you should ditch the fr bits from LANGUAGE |
| 19:46.31 | pumpkin0 | SirFunk: are you sure ? the "small" dual core is 1550 Euro around here. There is the R5X/R6X series as well. btw: http://www.thinkwiki.org for more info on thinkpads. |
| 19:46.53 | minerale | anyone know of any package that allows for downloading of rtsp packages ? |
| 19:46.58 | minerale | rtsp streams* |
| 19:47.06 | SirFunk | i'll check out that wiki |
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| 19:47.27 | SirFunk | a gateway m645 configged with the same specs as the thinkpad T60 is like $200 usd cheaper |
| 19:47.28 | dabreegster | minerale: mplayer can use the rtsp protocol |
| 19:47.47 | raf256 | itchi: ? |
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| 19:47.50 | SirFunk | unless i'm not navigating the lenovo site right and not getting an edu discount (it's sorta confusing) |
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| 19:47.53 | minerale | dabreegster: can mplayer save a file ? |
| 19:48.07 | itchi | raf256: I look in you Xorg log |
| 19:48.07 | raf256 | debian sucks balls |
| 19:48.09 | Eulex | SirFunk, depends on quality and size of the laptop too... |
| 19:48.19 | raf256 | how in the hell can debian testing fail to use nvidia card at all |
| 19:48.21 | dabreegster | minerale: Yes. -dumpaudio should do it. You might have to later re-encode the raw audio though. |
| 19:48.26 | itchi | raf256: It's nvidia that sucks the whole thing you mean |
| 19:48.42 | raf256 | itchi: nvidia.com driver worked fine past half year |
| 19:48.45 | pumpkin0 | SirFunk: yes, thinkpads are a bit more expensive. But they are build to last and the linux-support is not that bad. Most features work out-of-the box |
| 19:48.47 | raf256 | untill debian devels messed up xorg 7 |
| 19:48.50 | itchi | raf256: Worked fine ... |
| 19:49.06 | raf256 | or xorg 7 upstream, I dunnoi |
| 19:49.13 | itchi | raf256: I had to set it /worked fine .../ |
| 19:49.18 | raf256 | I JUST WANT THE FREAKING GXL TO WORK IN DEBIAN |
| 19:49.23 | stew | raf256: please lay off the caps |
| 19:49.24 | SirFunk | oh! there we go.. i think i wasn't navigating their site right... it's way cheaper now |
| 19:49.26 | Fackamato | uh. it works fine here. |
| 19:49.36 | raf256 | Fackamato: on testing? nvidia? xorg7 ? |
| 19:49.38 | Fackamato | debian testing, latest nvidia driver, own kernel. debian works as a charm for me. couldn't be happier. |
| 19:49.47 | SirFunk | i think i wasn't getting the EDU discount |
| 19:49.47 | itchi | raf256: kick nvidia. And stop trolling, we retry again to setup that crap of thing of nvidia |
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| 19:49.53 | raf256 | Fackamato: do you have a GLcore module? |
| 19:50.06 | itchi | raf256: Can you wait an hour ? |
| 19:50.07 | Fackamato | of course not |
| 19:50.21 | raf256 | itchi: so far you failed more the bush in Iraq. but anyway thanks for all the volunterr work on Debian :) |
| 19:50.23 | raf256 | itchi: yes. |
| 19:50.27 | itchi | raf256: I try some things with that fucking crap of nvidia |
| 19:50.31 | asperon | hi guys, i ha just installed etch and had some problem getting xorg to run, it turned out to be a bios related problem, but now i wonder how i would go about getting the original xorg.conf back? |
| 19:50.37 | raf256 | itchi: be happy to debug new version |
| 19:50.43 | raf256 | itchi: are you xorg debian devel? |
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| 19:50.58 | itchi | raf256: no I'm an crap of nvidia crap users |
| 19:51.18 | YogSothoth | stew, how do I definitely change $LANGUAGE? |
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| 19:51.35 | raf256 | Fackamato: here GLX loads GLcore as a submodule, and failes misserably, as I pasted on http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17144 |
| 19:51.52 | raf256 | Fackamato: does on your box GLX try to load GLcore as a submodule? |
| 19:51.59 | itchi | raf256: Try to hold here on for an hour or so |
| 19:52.06 | raf256 | itchi: ok I will be here |
| 19:52.15 | stew | YogSothoth: check if its set in /etc/environment or /etc/profile, if not then ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile |
| 19:52.20 | raf256 | btw, we need more debian devels here. couldnt they join in sometimes |
| 19:52.24 | fluxdude_home | I removed a package and deleted it's /etc/blah directory, then reinstalled it but reinstalling now doesn't work, it fails because the apt-get install calls dpkg which tries to open /etc/blah/blah.cfg. Why isn't dpkg more resilient?! Why doesn't it just reinstall the /etc/blah/blah.cfg file!!!! |
| 19:52.25 | Fackamato | raf256: yes. |
| 19:52.59 | jelly-home | fluxdude_home: you should have purged it, not removed it. |
| 19:53.36 | raf256 | Fackamato: so it do load GLcore? but it succeedes? |
| 19:53.48 | Fackamato | raf256: of course |
| 19:53.51 | jelly-home | fluxdude_home: removing makes dpkg think there are leftover conffiles on the system, and if you delete them by hand it gets confused. |
| 19:54.01 | raf256 | Fackamato: which GLcore is beeing loaded, please paste entire patch/filename and md5sum. from which packaged did you got that GLcore.so* ? |
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| 19:54.23 | jelly-home | fluxdude_home: to fix: purge the package, and then reinstall. |
| 19:55.19 | kepht | raf256: you upgraded to xorg7 and can't use nvidia now? |
| 19:55.20 | Fackamato | raf256: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8154252 2006-06-21 23:48 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
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| 19:55.20 | YogSothoth | stew, that was in /etc/environment ... and loged out and now it works. thanx!! |
| 19:55.22 | Fackamato | 92ecc90c95ff4343f2084f54e7077f78 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
| 19:55.29 | raf256 | kepht: nvidia works, but GLX driver failes (since it tries to load missing GLcore module) so I dont have GLX |
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| 19:55.56 | typewriter | what is the openssl dev package called ? |
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| 19:56.26 | jelly-home | typewriter: libssl-dev |
| 19:56.35 | jamiequint | i have what may be a silly question... what do i need to do to upgrade to apache 2.2.2, if I install from source, what dependencies do I need to install (or is it available as a package in experimental) |
| 19:56.47 | fluxdude_home | jelly-home: thanks, that worked. |
| 19:57.03 | kepht | raf256: have a symlink libGLcore.so.1 ? |
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| 19:58.19 | raf256 | kepht: yeah, as I written in the paste http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=17144 |
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| 19:59.06 | raf256 | 92ecc90c95ff4343f2084f54e7077f78 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
| 19:59.24 | raf256 | Fackamato: our GLcore is identical. so why mine fails to load? |
| 19:59.38 | Fackamato | are your symlinks correct? |
| 19:59.40 | kepht | raf256: i've never had success with the glx package, always build from nvidia |
| 19:59.49 | Fackamato | I built from nvidia, no glx packages here. |
| 20:00.01 | raf256 | Fackamato: hmm |
| 20:00.38 | jamiequint | any insight on my apache ? anyone |
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| 20:01.29 | marco13185 | how do you make apt-get retrieve the source and build it instead of using binary packages? |
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| 20:02.09 | raf256 | marco13185: apt-get source |
| 20:02.48 | stew | marco13185: /msg dpkg source |
| 20:02.57 | kepht | raf256: you should have: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 -> /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
| 20:03.33 | raf256 | i have /usr/lib/libGLcore.so -> /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 without the .1 |
| 20:04.00 | raf256 | since strace shows that startx tries to load the .so not .so.1 |
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| 20:06.24 | Fackamato | raf256: change it |
| 20:06.30 | grummund | hi, how can i find which package to install to get a particular file? (gnome-display-properties) |
| 20:06.38 | abrotman | !tell grummund about search |
| 20:06.39 | christor | someone know how to restrict a user to acces only to 1 foder in proftpd? or do you know a other ftp server simple? |
| 20:06.51 | abrotman | christor: you mean chroot ? |
| 20:07.03 | abrotman | is it a real user or virtual? |
| 20:07.06 | wols | a simple ftp server is vsftpd. dunno if it can do what you want however |
| 20:07.14 | stew | grummund: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 20:07.42 | itchi | raf256: I think the error is to try to load that gl module of Debian |
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| 20:07.52 | wols | grummund: packages.debian.org |
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| 20:09.31 | christor | abrotman: I create an account for this user |
| 20:09.53 | abrotman | a real account? i think proftpd can use the "$HOME/ ./" hack thingie to do it |
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| 20:10.49 | christor | abrotman: In fact I have a webserver with virtualhosts and I want that a person help me for 1 website, but I don twant that he have an access to other website. |
| 20:11.00 | superlinux | you know what? |
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| 20:11.27 | christor | So All my website are in /home/www/gym , other are /home/www/test and I want to block him only in /home/www/newweb |
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| 20:12.05 | abrotman | you can try making his $HOME to "/home/www/newweb/ ./" in /etc/passwd |
| 20:12.06 | stew | christor: symlink /home/www/neweb to ~hishome/newweb, and limit his ftp to his home directory |
| 20:12.23 | abrotman | christor: or ask #proftpd |
| 20:13.01 | grummund | abrotman, stew, wols: thank you for the suggestions, but i am still unable to loacte the package :/ |
| 20:13.36 | abrotman | !find gnome-display-properties sarge |
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| 20:13.45 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gnome-display-properties' (1): (/usr/bin/gnome-display-properties) in gnome/capplets. |
| 20:13.51 | purdeaandrei | hi! i have problems with apt-build. it doesnt use for some reason the settings i gave him in its config file, it still compiles my programs with -O2 and for i386 |
| 20:13.54 | stew | grummund: apt-file update ; apt-file search gnome-display-properties |
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| 20:14.33 | samuel | anyone know where the xserver config file is? ive got xorg but no /etc/X11/xorg.conf!!! but it still works!!! where is it? |
| 20:14.37 | grummund | while attempting to change screen resolution using the gnome desktop/preferences menu, i get the error Details: Failed to execute child process "gnome-display-properties" (No such file or directory) |
| 20:14.48 | grummund | stew: that command returns nothing for me |
| 20:14.56 | abrotman | samuel: the log in /var/log/ will tell you which it's reading |
| 20:15.06 | pv2b | bah. it turned out to be easier to hexedit the driver's pci table than to actually recompile it. yay for open source :-) |
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| 20:15.41 | stew | grummund: then your /etc/apt/sources.list might be messed up, if you put them into a pastebin, we could maybe help |
| 20:15.48 | stew | grummund: what version of debian are you running? |
| 20:15.51 | grummund | stew: something is wrong because neither does apt-file update ; apt-file search ls |
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| 20:16.18 | pasqualino | hi how do i hide mountpoints icons from desktop ? |
| 20:16.24 | pasqualino | (gnome) |
| 20:16.40 | grummund | stew: i am running etch, and sources.list points to another box on the lan which is running apt-proxy |
| 20:16.50 | raf256 | itchi: ? |
| 20:16.54 | vlt | Hello. How can I read status info about my PPPoE connection (speed, uptime ...)? |
| 20:16.56 | raf256 | Fackamato: change what to what? |
| 20:17.01 | stew | grummund: oh, hmm, maybe apt-file is messed up for apt-proxy |
| 20:17.06 | christor | stew: great idea |
| 20:17.06 | Fackamato | raf256: the symlinks |
| 20:17.11 | grummund | heh, yeah okay |
| 20:17.13 | christor | stew: thx |
| 20:17.16 | abrotman | grummund: use packages.debian.org |
| 20:17.18 | raf256 | Fackamato: to include the .1 ? |
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| 20:18.00 | itchi | raf256: Yes |
| 20:18.04 | grummund | abrotman: You have searched for packages that names contain gnome-display-properties in suite(s) testing, all sections, and all architectures. |
| 20:18.08 | grummund | Can't find that package, at least not in that suite and on that architecture. |
| 20:18.30 | grummund | hey, maybe it doesn exist :) am i looking for the right file? |
| 20:18.32 | Fackamato | raf256: look above |
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| 20:18.45 | itchi | raf256: I have not follow. i'm a bit bussy whith that crap of thing of nvidia |
| 20:18.50 | abrotman | !find gnome-display-properties etch |
| 20:19.23 | pasqualino | help me pls |
| 20:19.28 | pasqualino | hi how do i hide mountpoints icons from desktop ? |
| 20:19.40 | abrotman | pasqualino: we'd need a bit more info .. don't you think? |
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| 20:19.45 | itchi | BTW, have someone look to that easyubuntu script ? To get these fucking cards easy to work ? |
| 20:19.56 | pasqualino | ok so i've mor ethan uone user logged in |
| 20:20.17 | kbrooks | itchi: easyubuntu is for ubuntu, not debian |
| 20:20.18 | pasqualino | and i don't want the sendo user see taht the first as some stuff such as hdd cd etc mountd |
| 20:20.18 | pumpkin0 | pasqualino: KDE, gnome, ... ? |
| 20:20.27 | pasqualino | gnome |
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| 20:20.39 | itchi | kbrooks: Yeah i know, that's why there's an need of an eayDebian script, |
| 20:20.53 | abrotman | debian is easy |
| 20:21.08 | itchi | abrotman: Not with crap of nvidia and ati cards :-/ |
| 20:21.12 | kbrooks | abrotman: not fetchnig the nonfree packages |
| 20:21.15 | abrotman | so don't support those companies |
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| 20:21.25 | abrotman | it's that easy ... they don't want to help you .. why should you buy from them? |
| 20:21.28 | grummund | !find gnome-display-properties etch |
| 20:21.31 | pasqualino | <pumpkin0> it's possible ? |
| 20:21.34 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'gnome-display-properties' returned no results. |
| 20:21.36 | k-god | abrotman: stop making sense. |
| 20:22.06 | abrotman | grummund: such is the risk of running etch .. |
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| 20:22.08 | itchi | abrotman: That script is to installing in an easy way these crap cards to, + some additionals proprietaire stuff. My interesting parts go to these gfx cards |
| 20:22.22 | abrotman | itchi: then don't use debian .. go use ubuntu |
| 20:22.25 | pumpkin0 | pasqualino: yes, but you are in the wrong channel. ask for support in the #gnome-channel. |
| 20:22.33 | itchi | abrotman: It's not for my dude :-p |
| 20:22.33 | abrotman | !#gnome |
| 20:22.34 | dpkg | The gnome IRC channel is #gnome at irc.gnome.org, or for debian gnome related use #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 20:22.41 | pasqualino | teid bu there's no liivng being |
| 20:23.02 | Zvpun | I need help installing anon-proxy. What do I have to do after "apt-get install anon-proxy". I tried to configure http://localhost:4001/ as proxy for lynx, konqueror and firefox but didnt get a connection. |
| 20:23.04 | itchi | abrotman: I get it working, with pain on my ass, but it's working ... |
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| 20:28.39 | Cae2 | Hi, I'm installing debian sarge from CD-ROM.. ok. install works fine.. but on the next time that I shutdown the machine grub doesnt start and the "driver not found" generic errors appears... I have a P4 D 940 with 250Gb HDD SATA 2 |
| 20:28.44 | Cae2 | any tips? |
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| 20:29.19 | itchi | Cae2: The module for you HDD is not loaded i think |
| 20:29.37 | apfel | I mounted a samba-share with smbmount and the share suddenly disappeared. Now I can't list the directory that contains the mounted directory and df, for example, "hangs" as well. How can I "repair" this? |
| 20:29.45 | Cae2 | but it cannot be loaded until debian start right? |
| 20:29.52 | christor | stew: I did you idea and it doesnt wokr , I did a symbolink link but the user can t acces to it? |
| 20:30.55 | itchi | Cae2: Probably, you need to go to another VT while the setups run, then add that module to load at boot time. So that when you reboot's it's inside |
| 20:31.24 | Cae2 | but grub doesnt start, I cannot load anything before it |
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| 20:31.44 | itchi | Cae2: While the setup runs :-/ |
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| 20:32.18 | Cae2 | I think that module is running, since I install debian |
| 20:32.52 | itchi | Cae2: He is loaded of the CD i think, but it's not added to load at boot time i guess. I have not really experiences with SATA :-/ |
| 20:32.56 | purdeaandrei | hi! i want to install a package using abuild! i used the apt-build install command, but it didn't compile for my architecture, that i had set in the config file, for some reason it compiled for i386 and -O2 , wath can i do?? |
| 20:33.32 | itchi | Cae2: I have not SATA HDD's at home and have not play/experiment enougth with it :-( |
| 20:33.35 | Cae2 | I have successfully install debian on sata disks before... I dont now why this happpened |
| 20:34.08 | itchi | Cae2: You can try with an Live CD an try it so, but it's more for experienced users |
| 20:34.14 | pumpkin0 | Cae2: it depends on the sata-controller. And if you use initrd-img or not. |
| 20:34.39 | itchi | Cae2: I guess in you're case that it's easyer to reinstall and be sure that the module are added at boot time |
| 20:34.54 | itchi | Cae2: It's been an fresh install ? |
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| 20:35.07 | Cae2 | yes, and its my third install |
| 20:35.22 | itchi | Cae2: Yes, so try like i have told. |
| 20:35.30 | Cae2 | I try change enhanced to legacy on bios, but doesnt work too |
| 20:35.41 | itchi | Cae2: Have you another computer that can access the net while you setup that other comp ? |
| 20:35.49 | Cae2 | yes |
| 20:36.01 | Cae2 | google isnt my friend :( |
| 20:36.17 | itchi | Cae2: Try like i have told then, or try to look that the module are been set to load at boot time |
| 20:37.22 | itchi | s/or/and |
| 20:38.27 | Cae2 | I cant imagine how load module at the boot time (while setup runs) solve this... |
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| 20:38.46 | Cae2 | its for sure that debian is on HD now |
| 20:38.48 | itchi | Cae2: Which installer use you ? |
| 20:39.08 | itchi | Cae2: There's are diff installers btw |
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| 20:39.37 | Cae2 | I dont know.... I use the default installer of debian 3.1 |
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| 20:40.08 | itchi | Cae2: ... and it would be better to better. Older have some bugs probably. So if you follow the steps ^^ we can know that it's been an bug an eventually report it when it's not already done in an new installer |
| 20:41.18 | itchi | Cae2: It would be good to know which type of SATA |
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| 20:41.42 | Storkme | hi, is it possible to close all TCP sockets currently open and stop all content? |
| 20:41.49 | itchi | bbrrr. s/would/wil |
| 20:41.54 | itchi | bbbrrr |
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| 20:43.03 | abrotman | Storkme: shut down your interfaces |
| 20:43.23 | Storkme | so, restarting /etc/init.d/networking should do it right? |
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| 20:43.50 | mcgreg | what could be a reason why a user cant use alsa? |
| 20:43.56 | abrotman | not in the audio group |
| 20:44.07 | Pod | ifthere is one |
| 20:44.17 | Zomb | don't forget to relogin or use sg after changing groups |
| 20:44.28 | mcgreg | there is. it worked all the time. when I change it in a running system, do I need to reboot for wthat? |
| 20:45.34 | samuel | abrotman, i cant seem to find any logs with something like xorg config files, in fact all i can find is the gdm logs, it refers to /usr/lib/X11/getconfig, but there is no such file |
| 20:46.10 | abrotman | samuel: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:47.52 | raf256 | brb |
| 20:48.11 | samuel | abrotman, nope, that has the same /usr/lib/X..... that the gdm files had |
| 20:48.18 | samuel | but no config files |
| 20:48.25 | Cae2 | ok.. I'm installing again with all *sata* modules loaded |
| 20:48.29 | abrotman | you have no log in /var/log/Xorg.0.og ? |
| 20:48.31 | abrotman | .log |
| 20:48.32 | samuel | i dont understand, does Xorg guess??? |
| 20:48.51 | samuel | abrotman, yes, i do... but nothing in there that appears a config file |
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| 20:50.04 | abrotman | paste the log somewhere |
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| 20:50.32 | mcgreg | ok, I added 1 user to the group audio: "audio:!:29:mcgreg:mama:" , now for both alsa wont work |
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| 20:50.49 | mcgreg | I just rebooted, it didnt change |
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| 20:51.30 | mcgreg | is there maybe one ":" tzoo much? |
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| 20:51.53 | sylow | hey, I'm installing debian, and I'm at the stage "loading partitioner" and detecting filesystems , but this takes a long time (30 minutes..) What could cause this? |
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| 20:52.29 | purdeaandrei | http://pastebin.ca/74257 this is my config file is there something wrong about it? |
| 20:52.47 | streuner | sylow: which installer did you use? |
| 20:52.47 | stew | sylow: hit alt-f3 to get to the console and see if there are error messages |
| 20:53.11 | sylow | just the default setup from the cdrom streuner |
| 20:53.26 | sylow | ok stew thanks I'll have a look |
| 20:53.39 | stew | sylow: you could try the 2.6 kernel as well, type "linux26" at the boot: prompt |
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| 20:54.24 | samuel | abrotman, http://pastebin.ca/74259 |
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| 20:54.41 | sylow | stew: reading all physical volumes. this might take a while :) |
| 20:55.02 | purdeaandrei | http://pastebin.ca/74260 here is my output |
| 20:55.11 | stew | sylow: 30 mintues is too long of a while |
| 20:55.13 | abrotman | samuel: maybe it probes for all taht .. you don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 20:55.30 | samuel | abrotman, no!!! |
| 20:55.37 | samuel | thats what i was wonderind |
| 20:55.38 | samuel | g |
| 20:55.45 | abrotman | so make one? |
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| 20:55.48 | abrotman | !drxx samuel |
| 20:55.49 | dpkg | samuel: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:55.50 | purdeaandrei | so , nobody wants to try to help me? |
| 20:55.50 | sylow | stew: I'll try to make it to 100% and see if it can continue the installation. I hope the rest of the install goes better |
| 20:56.03 | abrotman | samuel: ask #xorg how it's doing that .. i'd guess it's probing |
| 20:56.03 | samuel | does it probe it then? so make one, thanks |
| 20:56.21 | sylow | stew: yes.. way to long. or do you think I'd better try another way from now on already ? |
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| 20:56.39 | zam-aliphe | any one know this error "ssh-scan: relocation error: /home/zam/kde3.5.2/lib/libnss_mdns.so.2: undefined symbol: inet_ntop" |
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| 20:59.00 | stew | Serinity: please turn that off in here |
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| 21:00.31 | raf256 | still doesnt work, itchi, stew |
| 21:01.29 | itchi | raf256: It's a bit crap :-/ I'm looking to, hope i find somethings crap i could solve... |
| 21:01.37 | itchi | raf256: Are you an dev ? |
| 21:01.42 | raf256 | itchi: send info to the bug 362868 |
| 21:01.43 | raf256 | no |
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| 21:01.58 | Serinity | stew, Sorry, shouldn't have accessed this net |
| 21:02.11 | stew | Serinity: no problem. thanks |
| 21:02.42 | itchi | raf256: I'm also not an dev, or the littlest one there are ;-) but i try a bit |
| 21:03.02 | ChakRa | ahm i used the command screen -S to make a new screen and then i closed the terminal after running the process i wanted to run. I want to know how to bring that screen back so i can kill the process. I used top but that process is not listed. Please help |
| 21:03.32 | Cae2 | itchi, absolutely doesnt work |
| 21:03.34 | Cae2 | :/ |
| 21:03.41 | stew | ChakRa: "screen -ls" will list screen that you can attach to, "screen -r pid" will reconnect to one |
| 21:03.56 | itchi | Cae2: Know you which module you need ? |
| 21:04.06 | Cae2 | itchi, I load all modules from cdrom |
| 21:04.08 | ChakRa | yay. Thanks a bunch stew |
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| 21:04.27 | Cae2 | and choose LILO, but on the next reboot nothing... |
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| 21:05.03 | itchi | Cae2: I not know many about SATA. And you also not told me which hardware you have after i asked for :-/ arg, but i'm a bit bussy :-/ |
| 21:05.06 | raf256 | where are the Devels? |
| 21:05.12 | raf256 | Where are the prophets? |
| 21:05.15 | itchi | raf256: Try to become on!!! |
| 21:05.20 | raf256 | where are the visionaries? |
| 21:05.26 | raf256 | where are the poets, to breach the dawn of the sentimental mercenary |
| 21:05.44 | Cae2 | itchi, I have SAMSUNG 250GB HDD SATA 2, sorry for bother |
| 21:05.45 | itchi | raf256: Try to learn some things, try to help or try some things that could help othere ... |
| 21:05.48 | raf256 | Where are the prophets, where are the visionaries, |
| 21:05.49 | raf256 | where are the poets, to breach the dawn of the sentimental mercenary |
| 21:05.58 | raf256 | Do you realize, |
| 21:05.58 | Cae2 | Hi channel! I need help with debian + SATA |
| 21:05.58 | raf256 | This world is totally fugazi! |
| 21:06.00 | Cae2 | heh |
| 21:06.06 | stew | raf256: stop |
| 21:06.09 | raf256 | what, noone? you are so meh. |
| 21:06.13 | itchi | Cae2: No, you not bother my ;-) I'm alway bussy hehe |
| 21:06.31 | kspath | !dorksmite raf256 |
| 21:06.32 | stew | raf256: please. just keep it on-topic |
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| 21:06.56 | raf256 | kspath: Marillion is cooler then blowing up american army |
| 21:07.05 | raf256 | !smite kspath |
| 21:07.12 | bobesponja | hey all, is it possible to mount the sarge iso and install it fron there? |
| 21:07.32 | samuel | md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | diff -sq /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum - |
| 21:07.32 | samuel | Files /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum and - are identical |
| 21:07.34 | itchi | raf256: If you ask me "everything is crap, it can always better. So begin to try to get it better" |
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| 21:07.53 | samuel | so wtf does dpkg-reconfigure not work? |
| 21:07.57 | raf256 | srsly though, we need devels here |
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| 21:08.07 | blondie | samuel: because it's fucked |
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| 21:08.18 | samuel | blondie, eh? |
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| 21:08.22 | bobesponja | anyone? :) |
| 21:08.25 | blondie | samuel: I had to apt-get remove and then apt-get install xserver-xorg to get it to work... |
| 21:08.34 | itchi | Cae2: It's an 250 GB ? |
| 21:08.39 | blondie | samuel: I think it's just broken atm |
| 21:08.43 | samuel | blondie, no kidding? |
| 21:08.43 | stew | raf256: there is nothing that a developer could do for you that a non-developer couldn't for your problem |
| 21:08.50 | stew | raf256: you are having problems with non-debian software |
| 21:08.54 | blondie | samuel: no kidding, but it was easy enough |
| 21:09.04 | raf256 | stew: caused IMHO by Xorg debian pack |
| 21:09.11 | raf256 | update on the problem - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362868 |
| 21:09.15 | purdeaandrei | hi! i am having problems with aptbuild. when i run the apt-build install command, it doesn't use my settings, it just compiles the package for i386 here is my config file, and my output, i don't know waths wrong, please help me! config: http://pastebin.ca/74257 output: http://pastebin.ca/74260 |
| 21:10.18 | itchi | Cae2: Look to this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=3905& |
| 21:10.40 | Pod | tubs 97.6% |
| 21:10.56 | Pod | and it's what, 590.4mb? and you remember me starting it not so long back :D |
| 21:11.09 | stew | raf256: still, if you think that there is a problem with the packaing, plesae submit a patch. you don't need to be a developer to submit a patch |
| 21:11.26 | stew | itchi: stop, that's not necessary |
| 21:11.35 | itchi | stew: Right, sorry |
| 21:12.24 | Cae2 | itchi, I have that exactly problem, I'll read more, thanks |
| 21:13.16 | itchi | Cae2: Simply look on Google with 'debian <brand of your stuff>' ;-) |
| 21:13.38 | purdeaandrei | hi! i am having problems with aptbuild. when i run the apt-build install command, it doesn't use my settings, it just compiles the package for i386 here is my config file, and my output, i don't know waths wrong, please help me! config: http://pastebin.ca/74257 output: http://pastebin.ca/74260 |
| 21:13.41 | itchi | Cae2: Google is also your best friend :-p |
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| 21:15.11 | goudkov | hey guys, i'm turning over an old box back to the hosting company. what would be the best way to remove everything from the drive? would rm -rf / work or would it stop as soon as it deleted itself? |
| 21:15.36 | petemc | goudkov: use a bootdisk |
| 21:15.49 | goudkov | petemc: i don't have local access to the box |
| 21:15.52 | petemc | goudkov: or is it remote? |
| 21:15.53 | petemc | ah |
| 21:15.53 | Cae2 | itchi, Can I use netinstaller for etch to install a sarge debian? |
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| 21:16.54 | purdeaandrei | goudkov : do you want to zero out a hard drive? |
| 21:17.34 | itchi | Cae2: You can take that Etch or while the setup runs switch to another VT modify the '/etc/apt/source.list' and change the words stable(or Sarge) words to etch (or testing) |
| 21:17.46 | petemc | goudkov: would it not be better just to use something like shred on any sensitive data and leave the os intact? |
| 21:18.05 | pv2b | i think running dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda should work to destroy the hard drive |
| 21:18.16 | goudkov | purdeaandrei: yeah, i was thinking of using dd |
| 21:18.19 | pv2b | the software will be running in memory :-) |
| 21:18.28 | pv2b | to be sure though, remount your filesystem read-only though |
| 21:18.42 | goudkov | what happens when it deleted the /dev/zero node itself? |
| 21:18.47 | pv2b | goudkov: nothing |
| 21:18.48 | itchi | raf256: It's the new nvidia installer that also bugs i think |
| 21:18.50 | pv2b | the file is still open |
| 21:18.56 | goudkov | i see |
| 21:18.58 | goudkov | cool |
| 21:19.07 | pv2b | if you remove an open file on unix, any programs still using it won't notice |
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| 21:19.23 | pv2b | it's only actually deleted as soon as the last program using it closes |
| 21:19.30 | pv2b | but if anything else needs to open() it again you're SOL |
| 21:19.38 | stew | goudkov: your best bet is to delete the more sensitive stuff like /home (and maybe /var/lib/stuff) first, to guarantee that happan |
| 21:19.38 | itchi | raf256: I have already install it an he always talk of an old install of nvidia and refer to an old nivida install version |
| 21:19.40 | goudkov | well, i';m not doing rm, so that's not a classical unlink think |
| 21:19.45 | goudkov | thing |
| 21:20.10 | pv2b | true, but the effect remains. if you're really paranoid, just write a program that open():s the hard drive and starts spamming it with zeroes |
| 21:20.11 | goudkov | yeah, i've already deleted home and var/lib |
| 21:20.23 | goudkov | actually home is still being deleted |
| 21:20.23 | pv2b | and link it statically just in case |
| 21:20.43 | Cae2 | itchi, hmm.. since I need d-i for etch to install my debian, I will change sources.list to use sarge repository... |
| 21:21.14 | stew | Cae2: why do you need d-i for etch? |
| 21:21.34 | stew | Cae2: you can't install base from etch and just switch your repositories to sarge and hope for it to work, it won't |
| 21:22.10 | pv2b | and for extra paranoia, tell it to fork() itself into the background |
| 21:22.16 | pv2b | so it doesn't die if something happens to ssh while it's running |
| 21:22.21 | pv2b | so it can run without a controlling terminal |
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| 21:22.38 | goudkov | that's cool. |
| 21:22.42 | Cae2 | stew, my sata HD doesnt have support in d-i for sarge |
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| 21:23.09 | goudkov | remounting it to ro and then doing dd on the drive itself should be enough to guarantee none of those assholes get their greecy hands on my porn collection |
| 21:23.22 | stew | Cae2: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 21:23.50 | pv2b | goudkov: that, or make an obvious /porn folder and fill it with various varieties of hello.jpg |
| 21:24.06 | goudkov | lol |
| 21:24.14 | pv2b | goudkov: the hosting guys should take all neccessary precautions to destroy your data after viewing the first few pictures |
| 21:24.16 | orgw | chmod 777 * |
| 21:24.19 | Cae2 | stew thanks for the tip |
| 21:24.42 | orgw | /exec chmod 777 * |
| 21:24.49 | Shadowcat | pv2b: so it was YOU who created goatse |
| 21:24.52 | aronofsky | hi , i got a problem with apt-file, when I do apt-file update nothings happen , it doesn't load any data , whereas i got 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free' in my sources.list . |
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| 21:25.01 | pv2b | Shadowcat: no. god created goatse. |
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| 21:25.11 | stew | orgw: don't suggest people do such things |
| 21:25.13 | Cae2 | 144MB here we go.. |
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| 21:25.45 | pv2b | Shadowcat: here's proof: http://www.hubblespacephotos.com/m33.html |
| 21:25.53 | goudkov | pv2b: i'm kidding dude. i have thousands of customer's cc's there, but unfortunately no actual porn |
| 21:25.53 | Shadowcat | uhh |
| 21:25.58 | Shadowcat | I'm so not opening that |
| 21:26.28 | stew | pv2b: please keep it on-topic |
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| 21:27.42 | pv2b | okay. i'm not discussing it further, i'm going to have some food. but here's a respectable link at nasa.gov. trust me. it's sfw. kinda. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960816.html |
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| 21:28.08 | aronofsky | anyone about apt-file , tahts really strange ! |
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| 21:31.23 | sylow | stew: remember my partitioning problem? I've tried with linux26 now and it goes very fast. thanks dude |
| 21:31.29 | stew | sylow: cool |
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| 21:33.04 | aronofsky | anyone got an idea ? |
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| 21:34.15 | ChakRa | hey stew, i was able to reattach and deattach the screens. Now enough of playing, i want to completely kill the new screen i made. I typed exit and it tells me "there are stopped processes". Help |
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| 21:34.49 | stew | ChakRa: "fg" will restart the stopped process, so you can quit it |
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| 21:35.03 | stew | ChakRa: or "help jobs" "help fg" |
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| 21:35.43 | ChakRa | awsome thanks stew ill try that |
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| 21:35.51 | orgw | how do you mount a hdd that doesn't show when you do 'df' ? |
| 21:35.59 | orgw | i got 2 hdds, both NTFS and but they don't show when i do 'df' |
| 21:36.38 | stew | orgw: they wouldn't show up when you type df unless they were mounted, but they should if you type "fdisk -l" |
| 21:37.19 | orgw | nope |
| 21:37.23 | orgw | nothing shows up |
| 21:37.52 | stew | orgw: how are they connected? |
| 21:38.10 | orgw | ide, slave and master |
| 21:38.17 | orgw | oh no |
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| 21:38.27 | orgw | the other one is ide controller |
| 21:38.32 | orgw | and the other is slave |
| 21:38.47 | stew | orgw: does dmesg say anything about the drives? |
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| 21:39.58 | orgw | no |
| 21:40.09 | orgw | http://hustlin.allnight.nl:31337/dmesg.txt |
| 21:40.15 | orgw | that's my dmesg |
| 21:40.16 | stew | orgw: do you boot from ide or sata/scsi? |
| 21:40.20 | orgw | ide |
| 21:40.32 | aronofsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.43 | stew | orgw: oh, there are lots of errors in there |
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| 21:41.37 | orgw | what's the error |
| 21:41.42 | orgw | i haven't rebooted since |
| 21:41.54 | stew | hde: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) |
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| 21:42.02 | SerajewelKS | i've got one debian box that is listening on ssh, and a private box on the LAN that i can reach from the server. is there a simple way to use a ssh tunnel to copy files through to the private box, using ftp or something? ftp of course requires a data channel, so i'm not sure if that will work so readily. |
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| 21:42.13 | IronM | hi |
| 21:42.13 | stew | orgw: and swap_free: Bad swap offset entry 00040000 |
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| 21:42.18 | stew | orgw: is your swap on the same controller? |
| 21:42.25 | orgw | yeah |
| 21:42.28 | orgw | same hdd |
| 21:42.41 | SerajewelKS | or is there some other file transfer protocol that only requires one tcp connection? (trying to avoid scp, copying from a 'doze box) |
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| 21:43.08 | SerajewelKS | basically both computers involved are firewalled. ssh tunnels are my only way in. |
| 21:43.29 | stew | orgw: well something is going wrong with that drive/cable/controller. you might try replacing the cable as its the least scary option, then after you boot again you'll be able to see what your kernel has to say about the drive in dmesg |
| 21:43.57 | SerajewelKS | SMB does come to mind, but bleh... there's got to be a way that won't botch permissions |
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| 21:47.20 | wakejagr | SerajewelKS: i don't see why scp isn't the best option. even from windows to linux, scp (using winscp) is my first choice. |
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| 21:47.52 | wakejagr | SerajewelKS: is there some reason i'm missing that makes scp not-so-great? |
| 21:48.20 | mcgreg | I know now what I did wrong with the group-entry and alsa, I did audio:user1:user2, instead of : audio:user1,user2 ... |
| 21:49.12 | orgw | ic |
| 21:49.25 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: yeah, you could tunnel ssh over ssh. ;-) |
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| 21:50.35 | SerajewelKS | wakejagr: well, the ssh-in-ssh means there's twice as much cpu and bandwidth overhead |
| 21:51.08 | SerajewelKS | wakejagr: plus i've had problems with scp working properly with this amount of data over the internet. some files missing, etc. |
| 21:51.24 | aronofsky | anyone can help me, my apt-file doesn't work ? |
| 21:51.32 | SerajewelKS | !doesn't work |
| 21:51.33 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 21:51.54 | aronofsky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:52.31 | SerajewelKS | wakejagr: transferring >6gb over the 'net |
| 21:52.46 | jelly-home | aronofsky: have you confirmed that there's no network traffic going on, or are you just stumped with apt-file's lack of any output? |
| 21:53.13 | wakejagr | SerajewelKS: ah. that's much more than i've moved over an internet connection |
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| 21:53.23 | wakejagr | SerajewelKS: good luck finding a solution |
| 21:53.33 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: hmm, http (upload) is one-tcp-connection. maybe webdav? |
| 21:53.41 | aronofsky | jelly-home, actually im not sure but its really fast and the apt-file search doesn't anser anything |
| 21:53.45 | SerajewelKS | wakejagr: yeah, i'm hoping for something more robust. ftp should do the trick but since it requires extra connections it's not practical to do over a tunnel. |
| 21:53.53 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: no experience at all with webdav |
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| 21:54.16 | CompWizrd | netcat over ssh should be fine, no? |
| 21:54.40 | SerajewelKS | CompWizrd: for a ton of files? |
| 21:54.45 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: yeah, you could do stupid tar | nc trick. |
| 21:54.46 | pv2b | SerajewelKS: KISS. zip the files first :-) |
| 21:54.53 | pv2b | SerajewelKS: and then scp them over. |
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| 21:55.02 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: how long do you think it's going to take to zip 6 gigs |
| 21:55.02 | pv2b | the one file that is. |
| 21:55.15 | pv2b | not that long if you zip them with store-only compression |
| 21:55.25 | pv2b | i.e. no compression |
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| 21:55.30 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: if this were a linux box i'd just tar folder | ssh mybox 'tar -x' |
| 21:55.54 | pv2b | SerajewelKS: you'd probably spend more time on looking for a solution than just zipping them in the first place :-) |
| 21:55.59 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: this hard drive isn't fast. creation of a 6 gig file is going to take time |
| 21:56.15 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: probably |
| 21:56.20 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: but i can leave it once it's copying |
| 21:56.22 | pv2b | exactly |
| 21:56.24 | CompWizrd | you could use tar on each end |
| 21:56.31 | CompWizrd | yeah |
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| 21:56.35 | pv2b | and do something more productive, like playing sol32.exe on your windows machine |
| 21:56.37 | SerajewelKS | CompWizrd: you missed the part where i'm copying from a windows box |
| 21:56.38 | pv2b | while you're waiting ;-) |
| 21:56.41 | CompWizrd | SerajewelKS: ahhh |
| 21:56.43 | pv2b | instead of having to do actual work |
| 21:56.44 | CompWizrd | smb over ssh! |
| 21:56.45 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: nah i plan on driving home |
| 21:56.52 | pv2b | that works too |
| 21:57.00 | SerajewelKS | CompWizrd: i thought of that, except i can't figure out how to tell explorer what port to connect to |
| 21:57.01 | aronofsky | jelly, any idea what i can check , |
| 21:57.11 | di | help, i installed etch but theres no gnome... i did it before and gnome was installed correctly |
| 21:57.20 | itchi | SerajewelKS: And somethings similar as tar cvzf - etc/ | ssh username@IP "cat > /home/username/etc.tar.gz" |
| 21:57.30 | SerajewelKS | CompWizrd: obviously a tunnel on 445 is out of the question, as this box is listening there too. so i need to listen on an alternate port... but \\127.0.0.1:49152 doesn't seem to work |
| 21:57.31 | jelly-home | aronofsky: if there's traffic when you start apt-file, just wait for it to finish. |
| 21:57.39 | SerajewelKS | itchi: you missed it too. i'm coping from a windows box. |
| 21:57.47 | CompWizrd | cygwin? |
| 21:57.48 | itchi | hell :-/ |
| 21:57.50 | SerajewelKS | itchi: copying too. an coping. |
| 21:57.50 | CompWizrd | *runs away and hides* |
| 21:57.57 | streuner | di: you ever used fluxbox, openbox, blackbox? |
| 21:58.00 | jplibre | how can I find out what process is loading a module? On a bunch of systems the osst module is being loaded for some reason and I can't figure out why. |
| 21:58.09 | itchi | SerajewelKS: I not know then |
| 21:58.13 | aronofsky | jelly, it finishes in a second and then it doesn't give any answer for anything |
| 21:58.20 | di | even x was not installed or autoconfigured |
| 21:58.25 | SerajewelKS | if the windows RDP client had the cool -r options that rdesktop does i'd just use that to do a reverse share |
| 21:58.40 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: hey, but it does! |
| 21:58.46 | CompWizrd | SerajewelKS: there's a win32 rdesktop port ;) |
| 21:58.56 | di | streuner: does it have to do with me using reiserfs? |
| 21:59.06 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: um, not sure for reverse share though. |
| 21:59.09 | streuner | di: nope |
| 21:59.10 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: the MS RDP client, or a win32 rdesktop port |
| 21:59.18 | di | streuner: etch used to work OK |
| 21:59.30 | itchi | SerajewelKS: 7zip on that hell box ? |
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| 21:59.59 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: the MS rdp client can "forward" local disks to the remote rdp server. I don't know of a remote rdp server |
| 22:00.01 | SerajewelKS | itchi: if i could pipe the 7zip/tar/whatever directly over the net, sure. but i don't want to create a copy of the data just to truck it over. |
| 22:00.02 | jelly-home | for linux |
| 22:00.04 | SerajewelKS | god i miss linux |
| 22:00.10 | itchi | SerajewelKS: 7zip on M$ have many cli fuctions that you can pipe to ... |
| 22:00.20 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: oh, i thought that option only did removable media |
| 22:00.26 | itchi | SerajewelKS: It have the best compression i know |
| 22:00.52 | di | gtg |
| 22:01.07 | SerajewelKS | rdp-over-ssh is remarkably snappy |
| 22:01.13 | hugo | where can i find older debian kernel images? does anybody have at least a kernel headers 2.6.11 deb? |
| 22:01.20 | hugo | I need it desperately! |
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| 22:01.22 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: how's your network connectivity? Is the connection likely to break off in the middle of the 6GB transfer? |
| 22:01.34 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: that's a good question |
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| 22:01.58 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: I would do rsync over ssh-in-ssh. |
| 22:02.05 | Tomek | hy... anybody out ther who could help a newbe with debian sarge? |
| 22:02.11 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: hmm that's an interesting option |
| 22:02.15 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: there's rsync for cygwin. |
| 22:02.19 | pv2b | rsync? that's a pretty good idea. |
| 22:02.24 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: no putty-rsync? |
| 22:02.25 | pv2b | doesn't that compress too if you tell it to? |
| 22:02.37 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: i don't really want to install cygwin just for rsync |
| 22:03.05 | SerajewelKS | but really though, if i'm using rsync why don't i just use pscp... same deal basically, right? |
| 22:03.07 | pv2b | SerajewelKS: you could bring a knoppix or other linux live cd to that computer just to do the file transfer |
| 22:03.20 | SerajewelKS | pv2b: yeah if i had one on me i would... |
| 22:03.25 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: perhaps there's a minGW build somewhere out there? Dunno, I have cygwin installed. |
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| 22:04.02 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: pscp (or anything else) is good if the connection doesn't break. |
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| 22:05.20 | chicken_Fire | hi, I have a problem: gam_server takes 20% cpu after one day uptime... How do I remove it at boot? Ubuntu 6.06 |
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| 22:05.42 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: let A=win.machine; B=server; C=destination linux; on A, do (equivalent of) ssh -L 10000:C:10000 user@B; on C, do nc -l -p 10000 | tar xfvl -; on A, do tar cfv - source-dir | nc -w1 localhost 10000 |
| 22:05.49 | cshaman | hello. |
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| 22:06.31 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: a basic tar|nc file transfer with a ssh tunnel twist. |
| 22:06.38 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: A has no tar, remember? |
| 22:06.38 | cshaman | I understand that Samba is the standard for transfering files across a local network between Linux and Windows computers, but is NFS a better system to transfer between Linux/BSD/MacOSX systems? |
| 22:06.38 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: nor nc |
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| 22:07.06 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: install them, nc definitely exists, and I'm sure there's a lot of versions of tar. |
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| 22:07.31 | itchi | SerajewelKS: Try with 7zip |
| 22:07.38 | itchi | SerajewelKS: Or look to |
| 22:07.39 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: or skip tar and pipe a big zip file over. |
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| 22:08.28 | SerajewelKS | meh, i'm thinking 7zip+pscp will be the shortest route |
| 22:08.29 | arunce | hmmm |
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| 22:09.04 | raf256 | what in the fucks name |
| 22:09.04 | arunce | and there is any free version for nfs server for windows? |
| 22:09.09 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: tar is nicer because it's a) tar|nc is faster than mostly anything else, b) if it breaks, you can easily tar up just the rest of the files, or finish it off with rsync. |
| 22:09.11 | raf256 | noone succeeded yet in fixing bug in nvidia/GLX Xorg 7 not working? |
| 22:09.16 | freethedoom | can somebody give me link where i can download the new version of debian? |
| 22:09.29 | ktwilight | freethedoom, debian.org? |
| 22:09.30 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: true... but is harder to fiddle with on a doze box |
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| 22:10.00 | itchi | raf256: It's hell that nvidia, i'm still try to find somethings ... |
| 22:10.08 | kdean06 | How do I force Debian to reconfigure my locales if they are messed up? |
| 22:10.15 | SerajewelKS | now i just need an md5sum for windows to verify the transfer |
| 22:10.23 | RichiH | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 22:10.33 | kdean06 | Well, that was simple, thanks. |
| 22:10.35 | freethedoom | ktwilight yep..i forgot to look there ;) |
| 22:10.36 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: naah, just run http://cygwin.com/setup.exe, and it's easy from there on. ;-) |
| 22:10.39 | raf256 | itchi: please send all your resulst to debian bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362868 (email it to 362868-done@bugs.debian.org) |
| 22:10.42 | RichiH | SerajewelKS: google mds5um.exe |
| 22:11.00 | raf256 | if I want to reopen a bug "362868-done@bugs.debian.org" then I should send email to "362868@bugs.debian.org" (without the -done) or what? |
| 22:11.04 | itchi | raf256: Yeah, sure, _when_ done and solved :-) |
| 22:11.30 | raf256 | itchi: why not follow some hinds etc as well, that way others can help also |
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| 22:12.04 | itchi | raf256: I'm already on that way hehe |
| 22:12.17 | Norbert_ | question: for colocation, I got an IP range of 8 addresses; second one is the gateway, last one the broadcast address, can anyone tell me what the first one is? |
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| 22:12.29 | stoned | RvGaTe, hi |
| 22:12.30 | ktwilight | ? |
| 22:12.35 | Tomek | Does anybody knows ISPConfig? |
| 22:12.38 | RvGaTe | hey |
| 22:12.40 | stoned | RvGaTe, I am sorry for not picking up my phone |
| 22:12.41 | RvGaTe | playing game |
| 22:12.42 | itchi | raf256: Have you an sid box with that nvidia crap ? |
| 22:12.43 | stoned | I was playing guitar |
| 22:12.47 | ktwilight | Norbert_, shouldn't you be given your ip range? |
| 22:12.47 | RvGaTe | np, please dont call |
| 22:12.51 | stoned | ok, sure |
| 22:13.18 | Norbert_ | ktwilight: I got the range, but the first, second and last one seem to be special |
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| 22:13.57 | jelly-home | Norbert_: the mod 8 == 0 address is "network" address. |
| 22:14.03 | itchi | raf256: With an sid box to compare some things, i mean |
| 22:14.11 | Norbert_ | jelly-home: thanks |
| 22:14.13 | ktwilight | Norbert_, if it's special, then just leave it as it is. |
| 22:14.15 | crazy_penguin | good night everybody (here is 1 am). sleep well! :) |
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| 22:14.36 | ktwilight | Norbert_, the first is probably your hosts' connection to the main line? |
| 22:14.42 | Etchmen | 10:15 am here |
| 22:14.43 | itchi | raf256: I have not enougth boxes to keep one for some sid test |
| 22:14.57 | Tomek | 00:15 am Here ;-) |
| 22:15.20 | jelly-home | ktwilight, Norbert_: no, he counted the .1 address as second (see, .0 is first) |
| 22:15.22 | petemc | raf256: the bug tracking system isnt for technical support |
| 22:15.22 | itchi | GMT time can be easyer :-) |
| 22:15.26 | SerajewelKS | 6:18 PM here, damn windows clock not synced |
| 22:15.33 | itchi | SerajewelKS: hehe |
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| 22:16.19 | ktwilight | oh... |
| 22:16.47 | itchi | RvGaTe: You have an sid box with nvidia working on it? |
| 22:16.57 | RvGaTe | yes ! :) |
| 22:17.01 | itchi | hehe |
| 22:17.03 | jelly-home | !win RvGaTe |
| 22:17.03 | dpkg | Congratulations, RvGaTe! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 22:17.05 | SerajewelKS | i have an etch box with nvidia working |
| 22:17.07 | RvGaTe | \o/ |
| 22:17.27 | itchi | RvGaTe: We talk later about ti, to try to get it working in Etch |
| 22:17.34 | k31th | Wats best way to copy data from one box to another over the net i need to keep file perms and ownership will scp -rp work ? |
| 22:17.37 | raf256 | petemc: this is a bug so I reported it |
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| 22:17.45 | SerajewelKS | k31th: welcome to the club |
| 22:17.55 | RvGaTe | itchi, ti.. ? did i miss something? |
| 22:18.02 | k31th | SerajewelKS: ? |
| 22:18.07 | itchi | RvGaTe: it :-p |
| 22:18.19 | SerajewelKS | k31th: i'm trying to devise some schemes to do this too |
| 22:18.24 | Tomek | i have a problem with postfix i think. I have added a mailuser "testuser" which mail adress is test@mydomain.com but when i send a mail with squirrelmail the mail adress is testuser@mydomain.com Could anybody help me please? |
| 22:18.26 | jelly-home | k31th: mostly. It won't keep hardlinks though. |
| 22:18.27 | RvGaTe | :) |
| 22:18.37 | itchi | RvGaTe: You get also some troubles in Etch if i remember good ? |
| 22:18.49 | RvGaTe | yes i had |
| 22:18.55 | SerajewelKS | itchi: uhm... nvidia works on etch... |
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| 22:19.01 | RvGaTe | there were no packages called nvidia-kernel-common/source |
| 22:19.13 | SerajewelKS | RvGaTe: yes, you pull them from unstable |
| 22:19.13 | itchi | SerajewelKS: The debian way ? |
| 22:19.16 | k31th | jelly-home: it should do ownership tho right ? |
| 22:19.19 | SerajewelKS | itchi: yes |
| 22:19.33 | SerajewelKS | itchi: the nvidia packages were removed from testing for a transition, just pull from unstable |
| 22:19.37 | purdeaandrei | hi! i am having problems with aptbuild. when i run the apt-build install command, it doesn't use my settings, it just compiles the package for i386 here is my config file, and my output, i don't know waths wrong, please help me! config: http://pastebin.ca/74257 output: http://pastebin.ca/74260 |
| 22:19.42 | jelly-home | k31th: yes, if the destination side is run as root. |
| 22:19.42 | itchi | SerajewelKS: hhhmmm :-) |
| 22:19.50 | itchi | raf256: ^^ |
| 22:20.02 | itchi | RvGaTe: ^^ also :-) |
| 22:20.09 | k31th | ahhh i see. thats where im going wrong thanks jelly-home |
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| 22:20.49 | k31th | jelly-home: so ill have to allow root logins over ssh to do this? |
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| 22:21.13 | SerajewelKS | raf256__: are you using the debian nvidia driver packages? |
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| 22:21.47 | jelly-home | k31th: yes. |
| 22:21.50 | SerajewelKS | raf256__: and who did you report the bug to? |
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| 22:22.30 | jelly-home | k31th: I usually do rsync -a source files host:dest-dir/, that does the trick too. |
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| 22:23.27 | jelly-home | k31th: if on a local lan (reasonably secure), even something like hostB# nc -lp 5555| tar xfvp -; hostA$ tar cfvp - files | nc -w1 hostB 5555 |
| 22:23.33 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: bah, i used sshfs to mount the folder on the private computer, and am FTP'ing to the mountpoint on the public computer |
| 22:23.57 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: kludges are so... kludgy |
| 22:24.40 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: this two-tiered approach of yours is not kludgy enough. |
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| 22:25.29 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: now i just need it to compress too... |
| 22:25.46 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: oh well, you can't have your cake and compress it too |
| 22:26.02 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: you could scp -C to the remote comp instead of ftp. ;-) |
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| 22:26.16 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: true |
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| 22:28.00 | SerajewelKS | well the transfer is going now, i guess i can leave. cheers. |
| 22:28.24 | Daishi | ok..now since Xorg 7.0 i cant have more than 1 xserver running at the same time |
| 22:28.36 | Daishi | well one will mess the other up |
| 22:28.44 | Daishi | but if i kill off the one that is the other one comes back |
| 22:28.52 | Daishi | problem is i sometimes want two or three running at a time |
| 22:29.29 | Daishi | im wondering if i should file a bug report but i guess i need to look into this more first |
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| 22:31.39 | purdeaandrei | hi! i am having problems with aptbuild. when i run the apt-build install command, it doesn't use my settings, it just compiles the package for i386 here is my config file, and my output, i don't know waths wrong, please help me! config: http://pastebin.ca/74257 output: http://pastebin.ca/74260 |
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| 22:35.46 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 22:35.47 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 22:37.22 | exhale | is there a guide installing debian with just X and gnome? |
| 22:37.50 | k31th | guys when i do "scp -pr site* root@blah.com:/root/sites/" |
| 22:38.03 | k31th | it does not keep the perms or ownership !? |
| 22:38.09 | k31th | wat am i doing wrong here |
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| 22:39.31 | robin_sz | k31th, do the uids match on the two systems? |
| 22:40.07 | k31th | they should do if they dont it should just give it numbers tho right ? |
| 22:40.19 | Daishi | exhale: cant you pick just them at install time? |
| 22:40.23 | robin_sz | depends ... if the numbers already belong to someone else ... |
| 22:40.26 | Daishi | or apt-get remove kde and such anyway |
| 22:40.44 | exhale | choosing packages in the debian installer is no easy task imo |
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| 22:41.06 | hugo | I need 2.6.11 debian kernel headers |
| 22:41.08 | Daishi | to install X and gnome apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-core should work |
| 22:41.11 | hugo | where can I get them |
| 22:41.16 | Daishi | apt-get! |
| 22:41.19 | robin_sz | k31th, anyway .. try rsync -avuz sites/ root@blah.com:/root/sites/ |
| 22:41.34 | hugo | there was a package quite some time ago, but it does not exist anymore. |
| 22:41.43 | Daishi | oo yea i just saw |
| 22:41.44 | hugo | is there something like an archive? |
| 22:42.10 | Daishi | yea |
| 22:42.16 | Daishi | http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
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| 22:43.42 | hugo | Daishi: thank you obi-wan-kenobi, you were my last hope! |
| 22:43.50 | k31th | rsync -avuz sites/ |
| 22:43.51 | Daishi | i dont think its on there though /: |
| 22:43.53 | Daishi | i searched |
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| 22:44.32 | Celeste | hi |
| 22:44.33 | Celeste | what is a good p2p program which *really* works and does not use java? |
| 22:45.58 | pv2b | Celeste: bittorrent. |
| 22:46.41 | k31th | robin_sz: dude that works great i ow you :D |
| 22:46.43 | Celeste | pv2b, never used bittorrent |
| 22:46.48 | Celeste | which one is good? |
| 22:47.08 | seeds | azureus |
| 22:47.16 | nima | hecks naw |
| 22:47.22 | nima | bittornado |
| 22:47.24 | pv2b | seeds: azureus does use java. |
| 22:47.26 | ktwilight | rtorrent |
| 22:47.33 | pv2b | i like the original bittorrent client |
| 22:47.34 | seeds | qtorrent celeste |
| 22:47.40 | seeds | oh yea pv2b |
| 22:47.45 | nima | someones going to die here |
| 22:47.52 | pv2b | omg. this is like editor wars all over again |
| 22:47.53 | ktwilight | ... |
| 22:47.53 | nima | maybe not |
| 22:47.56 | pv2b | except for bittorrent clients |
| 22:48.08 | polishkoop | I'm using debian sarge, kernel 2.6 and I'm having a huge difficulty playing an audio cd or just mounting a data cd. I'm pretty new to linux, and i've searched aroudn the internet and coudln't find anything that halped me. |
| 22:48.27 | Celeste | thank you all :) |
| 22:48.29 | pv2b | polishkoop: first step is to make sure that your /dev/cdrom symlink is set right |
| 22:48.39 | polishkoop | pv2d: ahhh okay so how do I do that |
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| 22:48.56 | pv2b | polishkoop: do you know where on the IDE bus your cd reader is? primary or seconday? master or slave? |
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| 22:49.23 | polishkoop | pdv2: i'm pretty sure the cdrom i'm trying to get working is master |
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| 22:49.33 | robin_sz | k31th, and its lighter on bandwidth too. two other things yo ushould know. If you touch a file on the remote system later than one on the local sytstem, rsync wont overwrite it on the remote, unless you use the -I option |
| 22:49.37 | pv2b | polishkoop: on the primary or secondary ide bus? |
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| 22:49.49 | polishkoop | pc2b: my guess would be primary. |
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| 22:49.58 | pv2b | i'd guess secondary if you don't know |
| 22:50.04 | pv2b | the hard drive tends to be on the primary |
| 22:50.06 | pv2b | unless you use SATA |
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| 22:50.13 | polishkoop | pv2b: yah im using SATA |
| 22:50.18 | pv2b | okay. |
| 22:50.29 | pv2b | the easiest way is to get a nice little program called eject :-) |
| 22:50.32 | robin_sz | k31th, and also, use --delete if you want to remove remote files that dont exist on the local system .. careful with that one though |
| 22:50.40 | pv2b | it's harmless to run on hard drives, but if you ruin it on a cd drive, the tray will pop out |
| 22:50.44 | pv2b | very useful in yout case |
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| 22:50.55 | pv2b | we can take it in private messages so we don't spam the channel |
| 22:51.21 | jelly-home | !start a bittorrent client war |
| 22:51.21 | dpkg | azureus blows |
| 22:51.31 | coward | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:51.34 | jelly-home | there ya go, gentlemen |
| 22:51.42 | k31th | robin_sz: thanks man |
| 22:51.53 | seeds | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.15 | pipeline | coward: The hard drives are all exactly the same. The only potential differences are write-through caches versus not. |
| 22:52.21 | pipeline | coward: The horrible part is the IDE controller. |
| 22:52.29 | Celeste | seeds, I have the feeling that I don't get it working for me |
| 22:52.48 | robin_sz | k31th, no problem |
| 22:52.49 | seeds | k Celeste |
| 22:52.51 | hugo | Daishi: i still got a problem: It looks like the file I am looking for is not in there! |
| 22:53.08 | Daishi | yea i see |
| 22:53.13 | Daishi | that could be a problem /: |
| 22:53.18 | Daishi | whats wrong with vanilla sources |
| 22:53.19 | Daishi | ? |
| 22:53.23 | seeds | i had trouble before with java |
| 22:53.26 | pipeline | Daishi: Do things the debian way. |
| 22:53.36 | Daishi | pipeline: whats that? |
| 22:53.45 | beardy | !debian way |
| 22:53.55 | Daishi | apt debian way |
| 22:53.56 | apt | somebody said debian way was the way consistent with debian policies so that debian doesn't get broken (eg apt dependencies resolve automagically). Usually the cleanest, easiest way. |
| 22:54.12 | hugo | Daishi: Do you or anybody else know, if there is a deb kernel-source-2.6.11, are these the vanilla sources or are the debian patches applied? |
| 22:54.18 | Daishi | heh i see |
| 22:54.34 | Celeste | seeds, where do you search for files in azureus? |
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| 22:55.06 | seeds | isohunt |
| 22:55.07 | jelly-home | Celeste: isohunt.com ;-) |
| 22:56.13 | Daishi | http://linuxtracker.org/ |
| 22:57.18 | Celeste | hum |
| 22:57.29 | Celeste | isohunt offers mp3's of a size of over 100 MB |
| 22:57.36 | Celeste | there are no normal 5 MB files |
| 22:57.49 | jelly-home | Celeste: that's quality for you! |
| 22:57.54 | seeds | mp3 albums |
| 22:58.01 | arachnist | look for .cue files |
| 22:58.06 | Celeste | I want to have one single mp3 |
| 22:58.08 | Celeste | ok |
| 22:58.09 | Celeste | cue |
| 22:58.13 | Celeste | what is *.cue? |
| 22:58.25 | Daishi | the coolest music sharing format ever! |
| 22:58.40 | jelly-home | Celeste: cue/bin are cd images, like .iso |
| 22:58.42 | arachnist | something that tells where a song starts and where it ends |
| 22:58.51 | Daishi | jelly-home: shh |
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| 22:59.00 | Celeste | guys, can we do an example search? |
| 22:59.11 | Celeste | for example lets search for Bon Jovi - It's my life |
| 22:59.17 | arachnist | jelly-home: seen cue+mp3 quite a few times |
| 22:59.18 | Celeste | do you get any result? |
| 22:59.19 | Daishi | lets not |
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| 22:59.56 | jelly-home | arachnist: argh. I would understaned cue + flac... |
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| 23:00.27 | Cillian | Apt-get is convinced I don't have any free harddrive space, even though I can still create files and stuff |
| 23:00.31 | Cillian | I think it's cause I'm in qemu |
| 23:00.40 | arachnist | jelly: yeah, some windows users don't seem to have a c(l)ue ;) |
| 23:00.41 | Cillian | And my harddrive shows up as 100% inside |
| 23:00.42 | jelly-home | Celeste: search for an album title, I think it doesn't index files. |
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| 23:00.47 | Cillian | Although outside I can see it's not full |
| 23:00.50 | pv2b | Cillian: it's probably because you have almost no re hard drive space. |
| 23:00.53 | pv2b | Cillian: free |
| 23:00.55 | Celeste | are there other p2p programs? |
| 23:01.04 | pv2b | Cillian: linux reserves a bunch of space (5% by default) for use by root only |
| 23:01.07 | Cillian | Is there a way to disable the harddrive check or something? |
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| 23:01.09 | pv2b | Cillian: to avoid application crashes |
| 23:01.19 | pv2b | Cillian: you're probably not full on hard drive space yet, but almost. |
| 23:01.27 | Cillian | I'm sure it's something to do with qemu - the harddrive isn't full, by a long way |
| 23:01.28 | tarzeau | pv2b: the filesystem does that, and not every filesystem does so |
| 23:01.36 | seeds | limewire celeste |
| 23:01.46 | pv2b | tarzeau: yeah, i know that it's ext2 that does that. for example. |
| 23:01.58 | pv2b | tarzeau: technically, ext2 is a part of linux. |
| 23:02.04 | pv2b | tarzeau: so nyah with your pedantism :-P |
| 23:02.05 | Celeste | seeds, I LOVE limewire but it does not let me download the found files any more |
| 23:02.07 | Celeste | seems to be a bug |
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| 23:02.32 | pv2b | tarzeau: (and i know the difference between linux and gnu/linux.) |
| 23:02.50 | hugo | I seem to remember that there is a way to extract the config from a running kernel?! |
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| 23:03.20 | k31th | guys, im moving mail server im moving from sendmail to postfix... can i just copy the mail from /var/spool/mail to the new box ? that should work ? |
| 23:03.34 | Cillian | Ok, I'll fix this tomorrow |
| 23:03.35 | Cillian | Night |
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| 23:03.50 | jelly-home | hugo: cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) ? ;-) |
| 23:04.00 | seeds | k, it still works for me |
| 23:04.36 | aredhel | Hugo, also /proc/config.gz if the right kernal option was set. |
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| 23:09.30 | hugo | thank you guys |
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| 23:22.11 | faw | ra |
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| 23:25.44 | MatBoy | when you want to have a private range on you second nic, do you have to add the route to the first nic with the IP-range of the second ? |
| 23:25.54 | Firestarter | anyone know if it is still posible to install amule with apt-get |
| 23:26.11 | MatBoy | FireBlade, I thought it was |
| 23:26.15 | MatBoy | stable ? |
| 23:26.17 | MatBoy | sarge |
| 23:26.19 | Firestarter | yes |
| 23:26.22 | MatBoy | mhh |
| 23:26.24 | Firestarter | stable |
| 23:26.32 | MatBoy | use the etch sources :) |
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| 23:26.57 | MatBoy | Firestarter, workstation ? |
| 23:27.02 | Firestarter | yes |
| 23:27.35 | MatBoy | sarge is for servers, etch for workstations the best in my opinion |
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| 23:27.54 | Firestarter | ok thanks |
| 23:28.27 | DrusT | ++ |
| 23:28.51 | Wyzard | MatBoy: You shouldn't need to add any routes manually... each interface automatically gets a route for traffic on that interface |
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| 23:29.11 | MatBoy | Wyzard, not on a layer2 switch I guess ? |
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| 23:30.15 | Wyzard | MatBoy: layer2 being MAC addresses? |
| 23:30.25 | Wyzard | MatBoy: In that case you don't really have a "routing table" |
| 23:30.41 | MatBoy | Wyzard, let me explain |
| 23:30.56 | MatBoy | someone has his own public IP's on eth0 |
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| 23:31.12 | MatBoy | on eth1 he want to use a backup-network |
| 23:31.23 | MatBoy | eth0 is connected to a L3 switch |
| 23:31.31 | MatBoy | eth1 to a L2 switch |
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| 23:31.47 | MatBoy | he needs to add this line to be able to use the private range |
| 23:32.02 | MatBoy | route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 |
| 23:32.22 | Wyzard | umm... that's wrong |
| 23:32.33 | Wyzard | That says that packets destined for those addresses should be sent through eth0 |
| 23:32.49 | Wyzard | which they shouldn't; they should be sent through eth1, since that's where the machines having the addresses are connected |
| 23:32.56 | MatBoy | Wyzard, the strange thing is... it only works this way with this guy |
| 23:33.21 | MatBoy | Wyzard, can you give a tright example ? |
| 23:33.34 | Wyzard | He should already have that same route but with eth1 as the device -- it's added to the routing table automatically when you assign an IP address and netmask to eth1 |
| 23:33.52 | MatBoy | youst read out the route ? |
| 23:34.14 | Wyzard | Take a look at the routing table |
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| 23:34.32 | Wyzard | And remember that routes (normally) don't care about where a packet came *from* |
| 23:34.59 | Wyzard | A route associates a range of IP addresses with the interface where the computers having those addresses are connected |
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| 23:35.48 | Wyzard | When the kernel wants to send a packet to a particular IP address, it consults the routing table to figure out which interface to send the packet to |
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| 23:36.31 | abrotman | i ask my mom where to put it |
| 23:36.37 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 23:36.52 | pv2b | i mean how hard can it be? whites on eth0, coloured on eth1 |
| 23:36.52 | abrotman | YO MOM .. WHERE'S THIS PACKET GO?! |
| 23:36.55 | pv2b | :D |
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| 23:37.38 | Wyzard | pv2b: :-( |
| 23:38.20 | Firestarter | what is the program that can be used to edit sources.list |
| 23:39.18 | azeem | Firestarter: any editor |
| 23:39.23 | azeem | synaptic has a GUI for it |
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| 23:40.38 | kugg | Firestarter: wajig ? |
| 23:41.07 | Firestarter | there is supposed to be something in debian for it. base-config? |
| 23:41.24 | sussudio_ | is there any point in running memtest86 on a system which has parity dimms? |
| 23:42.01 | Wyzard | sussudio_: It can reveal when the RAM has detected and corrected errors, on certain motherboards where it supports that |
| 23:42.10 | beardy | Firestarter: apt-setup, but to edit, what azeem said |
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| 23:42.35 | sussudio_ | Wyzard: i'll let it run for a day and see what happens. i had RAM that only showed errors after the first 15 tests or so |
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| 23:43.17 | abrotman | FireBlade: apt-setup ? |
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| 23:43.28 | Wyzard | sussudio_: I think there are only a few chipsets where it supports getting that ECC info, though |
| 23:43.45 | sussudio_ | Wyzard: i440BX not being one of them? |
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| 23:43.58 | bulio | where can I get a .deb of java jre? |
| 23:44.05 | Wyzard | no idea, sorry |
| 23:44.07 | froze | How long does it take for DAS to be updated on the web page? I have a DSA 1103 about the kernal but no info is available. |
| 23:44.08 | sussudio_ | bulio: sun |
| 23:44.11 | abrotman | !tell bulio about java |
| 23:44.13 | abrotman | sussudio_: no |
| 23:44.22 | froze | er s/DASD/DSA |
| 23:44.24 | sussudio_ | abrotman: you can make one |
| 23:44.26 | abrotman | !tell bulio about install java |
| 23:44.31 | abrotman | sussudio_: you can't get it from sun though |
| 23:44.32 | sussudio_ | !tell bulio about java-package |
| 23:44.50 | sussudio_ | abrotman: it'll make one with java-package |
| 23:45.05 | abrotman | sussudio_: that wasn't what he asked! :) |
| 23:45.08 | Wyzard | It's also packaged officially in unstable, and maybe in testing by now |
| 23:45.10 | ry | has anyone had any experience with installing sarge on a comp with a nForce chipset? |
| 23:45.11 | sussudio_ | :-| |
| 23:45.16 | sussudio_ | ry: no |
| 23:45.26 | abrotman | Wyzard: nope |
| 23:45.32 | bulio | is there another good bittorrent client for linux besides azureus? |
| 23:45.36 | ry | kk, it seems to be one of the most unfriendly linux mobos I've ever seen :) |
| 23:45.41 | abrotman | bttornado ? |
| 23:45.50 | ry | the bit torrent command line jobbie? |
| 23:46.06 | sussudio_ | ry: ktorrent? |
| 23:46.12 | ry | yeah, that one |
| 23:46.14 | ry | :) |
| 23:46.51 | sussudio_ | i think you need a version of ktorrent > 2.0 if you want to use it on private sites. |
| 23:46.55 | ry | I thought I might install testing instead of sarge because the latter couldn't even detect my eide controller, but I can't seem to install testing without the GUI |
| 23:47.13 | sylow | hey, can I install from a debian i386 iso on an amd64 ? |
| 23:47.19 | ry | yes |
| 23:47.21 | coward | I've installed php4 |
| 23:47.22 | petemc | ktorrent doesnt sound like a command line bittorrent client |
| 23:47.23 | coward | apache uses it |
| 23:47.27 | coward | yet I can't execute "php" at the command line |
| 23:47.29 | coward | what's wrong? |
| 23:47.37 | coward | what php package should I be installing? |
| 23:47.40 | sussudio_ | petemc: where did he say it had to be commandline? |
| 23:47.51 | marco13185 | err, I'm a little confused, this plugin I downloaded wants me to pass the option --with-gaim=/PATH/TO/GAIM . Where would GAIM be installed on a debian system? |
| 23:47.55 | marco13185 | /usr/bin/gaim? |
| 23:48.01 | sussudio_ | gamp? |
| 23:48.03 | seeds | can i use cat to join avi files? |
| 23:48.03 | sylow | ry: was that an answer for me ? do I have to do anything special then, like specifiing a kernel ? |
| 23:48.07 | petemc | sussudio_: ry asked.. |
| 23:48.38 | sussudio_ | petemc: no. he asked for _a_ client besides azureus |
| 23:48.38 | ry | syllow: I didn't have to |
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| 23:48.48 | ry | it worked fine right out of the box |
| 23:49.03 | ry | though I do recomend a 64 bit kernel, 2.6.9 works nicely |
| 23:49.24 | ry | if only I could install testing without apt grabbing the damn gui every time |
| 23:49.28 | petemc | ry: had i read further up from 00:45 < ry> the bit torrent command line jobbie? - i would have known that |
| 23:49.32 | petemc | gah |
| 23:49.38 | ry | that's okay |
| 23:49.58 | pv2b | seeds: no, it won't work right. |
| 23:50.01 | ry | so, does anyone know how to put a stop to testing forcing me to install x and gnome during install? |
| 23:50.16 | sylow | ok thanks.. ry, earlier my install failed.. so I wanted to make sure this wasn't the cause |
| 23:50.20 | azeem | ry: during the install? |
| 23:50.24 | Daishi | you need to use mencoder or something seeds |
| 23:50.24 | Shadowcat | since when does etch force you to install anything? |
| 23:50.25 | coward | how do I get "php" on the comand line? |
| 23:50.25 | ry | yes |
| 23:50.28 | coward | php4 did not give it to me |
| 23:50.30 | Shadowcat | ry: learn to use tasksel |
| 23:50.40 | azeem | ry: no, unless it's still downoading |
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| 23:50.53 | Shadowcat | obviously if you select "Desktop Environment" it's gonna install gnome |
| 23:50.57 | seeds | k because i used cat to join two mpeg files |
| 23:51.14 | ry | no matter what I do, whether it is hitting escape, ^c or x, sellecting fileserver, web server or anything else, it always installs gnome without fail |
| 23:51.27 | azeem | seeds: mpg or avi? |
| 23:51.28 | Daishi | sseds: apt-get install avifile-utils |
| 23:51.33 | Daishi | then use avimerge |
| 23:51.38 | ry | unless I am not supposed to use the arrow keys to select the option with the arrow keys |
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| 23:51.43 | ry | erg |
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| 23:51.46 | Shadowcat | dude |
| 23:51.55 | Shadowcat | deselect Desktop Environment and it won't install anything |
| 23:51.57 | Daishi | like avimerge -o combined.avi file1.avi file2.avi |
| 23:51.58 | Shadowcat | is that so hard? |
| 23:52.00 | ktwilight | twiki~ |
| 23:52.13 | Shadowcat | i don't even have the thing run tasksel at the end of the base install |
| 23:52.16 | ry | sorry, at this point I should let you know that I am totally blind and have never seen the install screen |
| 23:52.21 | Shadowcat | I* |
| 23:52.28 | azeem | ry: really? |
| 23:52.32 | ry | you deselect with the spacebar |
| 23:52.32 | Daishi | problem with avi is it has an index |
| 23:52.33 | ry | yes |
| 23:52.35 | Shadowcat | he's trolling |
| 23:52.37 | ry | no |
| 23:52.51 | ry | I use gnopernicus and speakup to make linux accessible to me |
| 23:52.56 | Daishi | merging 2 with cat screws it up |
| 23:53.20 | seeds | mpg i used cat with |
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| 23:53.36 | ry | so I deselect desktop environment with the spacebar and then hit enter to install nothing? |
| 23:53.36 | seeds | and it worked fine azeem |
| 23:54.03 | azeem | ry: maybe tab to switch focus to ok |
| 23:54.07 | zenwryly | dumb question, but how would I create an image of a CD? |
| 23:54.21 | stew | zenwryly: cp /dev/cdrom /path/to/iso |
| 23:54.21 | Daishi | seeds: did avimerge work? |
| 23:54.23 | amphi | seeds: yeah, cat splices mpeg nicely |
| 23:54.27 | ry | kk, thanks |
| 23:54.30 | coward | how do I install php? |
| 23:54.35 | coward | php4 does NOT give me a comand line php program |
| 23:54.36 | stew | zenwryly: (assuming /dev/cdrom points to your cdrom device) |
| 23:54.40 | ry | I'll try this install again :) |
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| 23:54.43 | seeds | i didn't try avimerge |
| 23:54.45 | stew | coward: you want php4-cli |
| 23:54.46 | zenwryly | stew: well at least I was right that it was a dumb question |
| 23:54.59 | zenwryly | stew: thanks :) |
| 23:55.01 | seeds | i used ffmpeg to convert the avi to mpg |
| 23:55.06 | stew | zenwryly: heh, nah, its almost too simple to believe until someone tells you :) |
| 23:55.07 | coward | stew, awesome; thanks; |
| 23:55.38 | ry | shadowcat: furthermore, have you ever seen the IRC client I am using before? |
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| 23:57.03 | pollywog | anyone know if the hashed ssh hostkeys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts can be unhashed? |
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| 23:57.38 | paulNewWall | pollywog : sorry I don't know |
| 23:57.38 | stew | pollywog: i'm pretty sure they cannot be, however you can set it so that future keys are not hashed iirc |
| 23:57.47 | pollywog | when hashed it is not possible to determine if they are not valid until one tries to connect to the host |
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| 23:58.10 | pollywog | yes I have set it to unhashed |
| 23:58.17 | pollywog | until I figure this out |
| 23:58.25 | stew | pollywog: check ssh-keygen, it may have an option to test |
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| 23:58.46 | itguru | . |
| 23:58.48 | pollywog | I know ssh-keygen can hash them but I think the reverse is not possible |
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| 23:59.06 | stew | pollywog: yeah but it might be able to tell your the fingerprinte of a given host |
| 23:59.16 | stew | pollywog: it will for instance let you delete one even if its hashed |
| 23:59.18 | itguru | has anyone come across the situation where your ethernet card refuses to accept an IP address from a DHCP server? |
| 23:59.26 | pollywog | stew: that's an idea |
| 23:59.28 | pollywog | thanks |
