| 00:00.28 | DerJamster | alekzandr: well, I don't know :) I guess slow or something. |
| 00:00.41 | DerJamster | alekzandr: currently they offer unlimited traffic, too. |
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| 00:01.50 | alekzandr | anyone else have a dedicated debian server they are happy with? I think i need a backup server |
| 00:02.07 | DerJamster | How much space? |
| 00:02.39 | alekzandr | 40gb would be enough, 80gb would be better |
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| 00:07.03 | plugwash | DerJamster are you german? |
| 00:07.33 | plugwash | i couldn't figure out how to order from server4you without a german bank account |
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| 00:09.04 | clarity_ | are there any feeds for twisted python? I'm trying to install xen and it has unresolved deps |
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| 00:09.32 | rhys | is there something i dont know? |
| 00:09.39 | rhys | vfat, fat32, fat16.. |
| 00:09.44 | rhys | ??whats the difference |
| 00:10.00 | plugwash | clarity_ umm are you using a third party repositry for xen? |
| 00:10.01 | DerJamster | plugwash: yep |
| 00:10.32 | clarity_ | nope |
| 00:10.35 | clarity_ | I'm using debian's |
| 00:10.40 | clarity_ | but it has unresolved depends |
| 00:10.51 | plugwash | hmm your running sid? |
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| 00:11.10 | clarity_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 00:11.10 | clarity_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.10 | clarity_ | E: Broken packages |
| 00:11.14 | clarity_ | what's sid? |
| 00:11.17 | clarity_ | I'm just using apt-get |
| 00:11.47 | plugwash | whats in your sources.list? |
| 00:12.29 | clarity_ | can I paste |
| 00:12.36 | clarity_ | or should I paste in a pm? |
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| 00:14.04 | wakejagr | clarity_: paste it to #flood |
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| 00:14.47 | plugwash | clarity_ try apt-get source --compile twisted |
| 00:15.11 | Phrozen_One` | does debian support that new 3D desktop thing that just was recently released? |
| 00:15.18 | clarity_ | child process failed |
| 00:15.34 | clarity_ | Build command 'cd twisted-2.4.0 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. |
| 00:15.35 | clarity_ | E: Child process failed |
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| 00:15.47 | wakejagr | clarity_: you seem to have lines for different releases; are any of the lines you pasted commented out? |
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| 00:15.53 | plugwash | clarity paste the full output of the command i just gave at http://rafb.net/paste |
| 00:16.07 | clarity_ | none of them |
| 00:16.49 | wakejagr | clarity_: the problem may be that you are telling apt-get to install from sarge, etch, and sid at the same time |
| 00:17.05 | plugwash | wakejagr no its not the problem is the packages aren't built in sid yet |
| 00:17.22 | plugwash | clarity_ try apt-get build-dep twisted |
| 00:17.22 | clarity_ | okay |
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| 00:18.05 | wakejagr | plugwash: a line for main in sources.list shouldn't cause a problem? does it get ignored? |
| 00:18.46 | plugwash | wakejagr apt will always use the newest version of a package it can find |
| 00:19.21 | wakejagr | plugwash: good to know, i thought multiple would confuse it |
| 00:19.25 | plugwash | so it could cause issues if someone tries to install something thats not in sid/etch and where the sarge version isn't compatible with sid/etch but thats not the case here |
| 00:19.39 | clarity_ | yeah I'm just using sid now |
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| 00:20.12 | clarity_ | apt-get build-dep twisted worked |
| 00:20.18 | wakejagr | plugwash: cool. everytime i learn more about the apt system, i'm impressed |
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| 00:23.10 | clarity_ | xen isn't part of the stable is it? |
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| 00:23.33 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 00:23.42 | dvs | bon nuit |
| 00:23.55 | plugwash | clarity_ ok now do apt-get source --compile twisted |
| 00:24.16 | alekzandr | does anyone here have hosting company that they are please with for dedicated debian servers? |
| 00:24.33 | clarity_ | failed |
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| 00:25.09 | plugwash | clarity_ do you have build-essentiall installed? if not install it and try again |
| 00:26.06 | _ds | Not for downloading source, though :-| |
| 00:27.35 | clarity_ | I had problems with aptitude |
| 00:27.47 | _ds | Hmm? |
| 00:27.50 | clarity_ | man, I had a ton of trouble with vmware too |
| 00:28.34 | plugwash | _ds aptitude has a major design flaw |
| 00:28.43 | plugwash | it doesn't properly understand metapackages |
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| 00:29.04 | plugwash | so say i install kde using the metapackage and decide there is one kde app i wan't to remove |
| 00:29.06 | gravity | plugwash: I agree 100%. There needs to be a good way around that. |
| 00:29.20 | gravity | plugwash: Is there a bug filed on it? Not that I'm sure where it would go... aptitude or dpkg... |
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| 00:29.42 | _ds | That package would depend on the one app which you don't want, right? |
| 00:29.53 | _ds | If so, that's not aptitude's problem... |
| 00:29.56 | cr3 | I'm using sid and dpkg -l 'kernel*' doesn't seem to list a 2.6 kernel, how can I get it? |
| 00:30.00 | plugwash | remove that app and it removes the metapackage (due to dependencies) which in turn causes aptitude to try and "clean up" the rest of kde |
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| 00:30.27 | _ds | Then mark packages as manually instaled. |
| 00:30.28 | wakejagr | cr3: try linux instead of kernel |
| 00:30.59 | cr3 | wakejagr: I did, still no 2.6 kernel |
| 00:31.30 | cr3 | wakejagr: my sources.list file has sid and main |
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| 00:31.47 | wakejagr | cr3: sorry, dpkg will list packages it knows about. apt-cache search linux |
| 00:31.52 | plugwash | clarity_ was build-essential installed and if not did you install it and try again? |
| 00:32.03 | clarity_ | how do you check if it's installed |
| 00:32.21 | _ds | dpkg -l build-essential |
| 00:32.22 | dpkg | No packages found matching build-essential |
| 00:32.24 | plugwash | dpkg -l or just try installing it and look for the "already installed" message |
| 00:32.24 | dpkg | ii or just try installing it and look for the "already installed" message 2.3-3.3 plugwash's private stamp collection |
| 00:32.35 | wakejagr | cr3: i believe dpkg -l shows installed packages. you are looking to install a new kernel, right? |
| 00:32.40 | clarity_ | yeah it's installed |
| 00:33.20 | plugwash | paste the full output of the apt-get source --compile twisted command in a pastebin then |
| 00:33.26 | cr3 | wakejagr: thanks, that displayed a few 2.6 modules. will linux-image install the kernel and configure grub accordingly? |
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| 00:34.35 | wakejagr | cr3: actually, that i'm not sure about. menu.lst might need new entry . . . |
| 00:34.50 | wakejagr | cr3: |
| 00:37.10 | cr3 | wakejagr: thanks, I'll try it out :) |
| 00:37.25 | wakejagr | cr3: np. good luck |
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| 00:46.33 | alekzandr | DerJamster: i just chatted with server4you, they don't offer debian |
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| 00:49.00 | twb | Where do I put iptables rules so they are loaded at boot? |
| 00:49.48 | DerJamster | alekzandr: um, they do.. :> |
| 00:50.10 | DerJamster | alekzandr: perhaps not for off-country customers. But they do. |
| 00:50.27 | DerJamster | alekzandr: SuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, Win2003 |
| 00:50.32 | alekzandr | i downloaded the sign up pdf and it isn't on the list, this is server4you.com? |
| 00:50.48 | DerJamster | I think server4you.com is rather neglected. server4you.de |
| 00:51.28 | alekzandr | ahh |
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| 00:53.57 | DerJamster | alekzandr: https://www.server4you.de/de/d/index.html <- the dedicated servers. In german tho. |
| 00:54.41 | DerJamster | come with RAID1 and unlimited traffic. |
| 00:56.30 | SerajewelKS | what would be involved in setting up a sid chroot for debugging X applications? |
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| 00:57.07 | DerJamster | alekzandr: 90% uptime guaranteed compared to 99.9% of hosters that might be interesting for companies tho. This one clearly has a different audience ;) |
| 00:57.11 | SerajewelKS | specifically, if sid has newer X libraries, will those applications be able to connect to an X server run from testing? |
| 00:57.21 | aFlag | are there good guides for updating from sarge to etch? |
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| 00:57.34 | gravity | SerajewelKS: Yes |
| 00:57.40 | dvs | aFlag: no |
| 00:57.46 | lurker99 | !more beer |
| 00:57.47 | dpkg | goto /usr/local/pub |
| 00:57.49 | gravity | The libraries are not incompatible |
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| 00:57.56 | rhys | why doenst debian shut down right? |
| 00:57.57 | alekzandr | DerJamster: do they speak english? |
| 00:58.03 | SerajewelKS | gravity: hmm interesting, so i should just have to copy in my .Xauthority and set XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY? |
| 00:58.03 | DerJamster | alekzandr: no idea :> |
| 00:58.03 | rhys | when i tell it to shutdown -a -t 00 now, it just goes to runlevel 1 |
| 00:58.12 | gravity | SerajewelKS: I'm not sure to be honest |
| 00:58.21 | rhys | tells me "enter root password for matinence or ctrl+d |
| 00:58.24 | SerajewelKS | gravity: alright, well i'll give it a shot thanks |
| 00:58.28 | gravity | SerajewelKS: But X11 hasn't changed in a very long time, so they should connect just fine |
| 00:58.29 | dvs | rhys: shutdown -h now |
| 00:58.47 | SerajewelKS | gravity: of course i could just run Xvnc inside the chroot and connect to it from testing |
| 00:58.55 | g333k | is there any tool to set the id3v1 or id3v2 to a bunch of files? |
| 00:59.09 | g333k | *mp3 files |
| 00:59.12 | rhys | dvs odd. maybe im used to slack.. |
| 00:59.24 | SerajewelKS | g333k: easytag maybe |
| 00:59.41 | dvs | rhys: There isn't a good guide to upgrade to etch because most people shouldn't |
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| 01:00.25 | g333k | SerajewelKS, let me try it,,,,, in winbugs I used to use Eags On! |
| 01:00.30 | rhys | dvs ?? |
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| 01:01.03 | DerJamster | alekzandr: ping 85.75.16.168. See what you get. |
| 01:01.08 | plugwash | aFlag edit sources.list , do apt-get update , do apt-get dist-upgrade , check what it plans to do looks sane , press y |
| 01:01.09 | dvs | rhys: Testing isnt for most users. |
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| 01:01.39 | rhys | what the hell are you talking about dvs? testing.. |
| 01:01.46 | plugwash | dvs it was aFlag who asked for the guide not R_engel |
| 01:01.47 | rhys | i asked about shutdown.. |
| 01:01.59 | rhys | RHYS! |
| 01:01.59 | rhys | :D |
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| 01:02.08 | dvs | rhys: Oh? Sorry I got mixed up |
| 01:02.32 | rhys | dvs, you havnt known who i was like 3 times now, and now youve mistaken me for someone else |
| 01:02.33 | dvs | rhys: Yeah, shutdown -h now is the way I shut down my computer |
| 01:02.38 | rhys | does your IRC switch nicks? lol |
| 01:03.02 | cr3 | I upgraded from 2.4 to 2.6 and now my mouse is slow in X, what should I do? |
| 01:03.05 | rhys | youve said "whos rhys?" at least twice before today. |
| 01:04.18 | dvs | cr3: Probably change the mouse device from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice |
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| 01:04.38 | cr3 | dvs: thanks, I'll give that a try |
| 01:04.40 | aFlag | plugwash, I supose if I wan't to contribute with etch's development, installing it should be the first step, so what kind of documentation should I read in order to understand more about debian's system? |
| 01:04.40 | freeone3000 | Will debian be able to reinstall grub to the MBR? |
| 01:04.45 | freeone3000 | The livecd, rather. |
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| 01:04.57 | cr3 | dvs: how do I make those changes effective? kill X? |
| 01:05.03 | cr3 | by the way, I'm using xdm |
| 01:05.10 | dvs | !drxx cr3 |
| 01:05.10 | dpkg | cr3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 01:05.49 | cr3 | dpkg: xmd5 |
| 01:05.50 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 01:06.02 | cr3 | what about xorg.conf? |
| 01:06.14 | DerJamster | freeone3000: yeah. |
| 01:06.16 | dvs | cr3: Did you edit it by hand |
| 01:06.21 | cr3 | dvs: yep |
| 01:06.23 | freeone3000 | DerJamster: Thanks. |
| 01:06.33 | DerJamster | freeone3000: any live CD will do, actually |
| 01:06.40 | dvs | cr3: Replace /dev/psaux /dev/input/mice |
| 01:06.45 | DerJamster | freeone3000: just chroot into the debian sys, and run grub-install |
| 01:06.49 | dvs | with /dev/input/mice |
| 01:06.53 | freeone3000 | DerJamster: Wow. That's nifty. |
| 01:06.58 | cr3 | dvs: aha! dpkg's advice applies to xorg.conf as well, regarding the md5sum stuff |
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| 01:07.32 | DerJamster | freeone3000: actually, after chrooting, mount /proc first :> |
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| 01:08.24 | cr3 | dvs: thanks for all the advice, I'll try it out. brb |
| 01:09.01 | SerajewelKS | i'm going to sound stupid asking this, but i just installed sid in a chroot and installing packages tells me that it can't verify any of them. but since i have the latest apt i should have the 2006 key, right? |
| 01:09.59 | freeone3000 | apt-get update |
| 01:10.02 | freeone3000 | That'll fix it. |
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| 01:10.19 | SerajewelKS | freeone3000: duh... thanks |
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| 01:10.24 | SerajewelKS | !lose me |
| 01:10.25 | dpkg | serajewelks: You Lose. |
| 01:11.04 | SerajewelKS | on a similar note, debootstrap is one of the sexiest programs ever written |
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| 01:11.47 | rhys | SerajewelKS, when you start thinking programs are sexy i think you need to get out more |
| 01:12.23 | SerajewelKS | rhys: like i don't know that =P |
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| 01:14.49 | cr3 | I upgraded kernel to 2.6, changes mouse device to /dev/input/mice and the pointer is still darn slow. suggestions? |
| 01:15.09 | SerajewelKS | cr3: move the mouse faster! =D |
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| 01:15.43 | SerajewelKS | cr3: on a more serious note, your desktop environment should have some way to configure pointer speed |
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| 01:16.31 | cr3 | Sera: I'm using wmii, unfortunately, so I don't have that kind of useful interface unfortunately :( |
| 01:16.40 | _ds | $ man xset |
| 01:16.42 | Jack-Ho | how old is the stable version of debian? |
| 01:16.50 | Jack-Ho | umm |
| 01:16.54 | SerajewelKS | !sarge |
| 01:16.55 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes, or the best thing since sliced cheese. |
| 01:17.05 | SerajewelKS | Jack-Ho: ^^^ |
| 01:17.26 | cr3 | what's that command to configure X again? dpkg-something...? |
| 01:17.34 | SerajewelKS | !drxx cr3 |
| 01:17.34 | cr3 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 01:17.34 | dpkg | cr3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:17.41 | SerajewelKS | cr3: you got it |
| 01:17.56 | cr3 | heh, I remembered someting. I'll commit that to my shell history and I'll be all set for next time :)_ |
| 01:18.07 | SerajewelKS | cr3: woot! |
| 01:18.19 | Jack-Ho | thanks :) |
| 01:18.51 | SerajewelKS | gah, perl goes nuts in a chroot. do i need to install locales or something? |
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| 01:19.20 | _ds | Might be a good idea :-) |
| 01:19.33 | SerajewelKS | odd that locales isn't considered base by debootstrap |
| 01:19.56 | g333k | SerajewelKS, have you used easytag? |
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| 01:20.09 | SerajewelKS | g333k: i used it once upon a time, not so much recently |
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| 01:20.42 | g333k | SerajewelKS, when it scan for firts time a directory, does it modify something? |
| 01:21.05 | SerajewelKS | g333k: it shouldn't |
| 01:21.13 | SerajewelKS | hmm, note to self. es_US != en_US |
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| 01:21.34 | dvs | SerajewelKS: Si? |
| 01:21.46 | cr3 | weird, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it says that /etc/X11/X has been customized but that is just a symbolic link to /usr/bin/Xorg. is that normal? |
| 01:22.07 | gravity | cr3: Yeah, don't worry about it. Known bug |
| 01:22.09 | SerajewelKS | should i create a user inside a chroot to do debugging stuff, or can i run it as root since i'm protected by the chroot anyway? |
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| 01:22.37 | Phrozen_One` | has anyone been able to install opera ? apparently opera wants an older package than I have installed, kinda lost on what to do |
| 01:22.44 | cr3 | gravity: thanks |
| 01:22.48 | gravity | cr3: No problem |
| 01:22.48 | SerajewelKS | Phrozen_One`: don't use opera? |
| 01:23.02 | Phrozen_One` | I love it, good internet browser |
| 01:23.18 | plugwash | Phrozen_One` are you running sarge etch or sid? |
| 01:23.20 | SerajewelKS | Phrozen_One`: technically opera isn't in debian so it's not supported here. |
| 01:23.25 | plugwash | and where did you get this opera package |
| 01:24.05 | ttyfscker | ?? debtakeover |
| 01:24.05 | Phrozen_One` | okay, package was taken off the official site, I don't know which I have unfortunately, I just installed it an hour ago using a iso, something like "debian current net install" or similiar |
| 01:24.07 | scott | hey guys, I just added a hdd to my sustem - it is on Primary slave - how do I set it up in Deb? |
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| 01:24.27 | Phrozen_One` | is there a program that will tell you which version? |
| 01:24.35 | ttyfscker | ?? debovertake |
| 01:25.17 | plugwash | scott completely blank hdd or with existing data on |
| 01:25.27 | plugwash | scott and what do you wan't to use it for? |
| 01:25.32 | scott | not sure... I think with Data on it :) but I dont care :) |
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| 01:25.52 | plugwash | Phrozen_One` did it ask you about stable testing or unstable during install and if so which did you pick? |
| 01:25.58 | scott | plugwash: I just want to use iot for more system storage - I have a 10 GB and just added another 10 GB |
| 01:26.10 | scott | are there any disk managers? |
| 01:26.12 | cafuego | scott: Partition, format and mount /dev/hdb |
| 01:26.23 | scott | cafuego: how do I do that though ? :( |
| 01:26.33 | Phrozen_One` | I beleive it's the stable build, but my memory is terrible |
| 01:26.36 | cafuego | scott: fdisk, mkfs and mount. |
| 01:26.48 | plugwash | scott use cfdisk /dev/hdb to partition |
| 01:26.57 | SerajewelKS | gravity: hrm, weird things happen when i try to talk to :0 from a chroot. guess vnc is the way to go |
| 01:27.13 | cr3 | I'm trying to change the accelearation of my mouse with xset m, but nothing is changing. xset q currently says I have an acceleration of 20/1, which should be insane, but it's still slow :( |
| 01:27.17 | plugwash | format depends on the fs you wan't for ext2 its mke2fs for reiser its mkreiserfs |
| 01:27.36 | dvs | cr3: Install gpm |
| 01:27.36 | plugwash | then add mount points by editing /etc/fstab |
| 01:28.03 | plugwash | Phrozen_One` what exactly is the error you get when you try to install the opera package? |
| 01:28.20 | Phrozen_One` | I beleive it worked.....but I'm sure it broke something else....gimme a sec to test the app |
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| 01:28.45 | plugwash | btw if you just wan't one big filesystem there is no need to partition you can just put a filesystem directly onto the drive |
| 01:29.45 | cr3 | dvs: thanks, I'll try that. brb |
| 01:30.32 | SerajewelKS | gravity: sorry to bug you again, but when running Xvnc in the chroot it tells me it can't find the 'fixed' font -- which package do i need to correct this, xfonts-75dpi? |
| 01:30.40 | gravity | SerajewelKS: xfonts-base |
| 01:30.52 | SerajewelKS | gravity: ok thanks |
| 01:31.02 | gravity | SerajewelKS: No problem |
| 01:31.13 | SerajewelKS | gravity: you'd figure i'd know this crap by now |
| 01:31.20 | gravity | heh |
| 01:31.23 | Phrozen_One` | plugwash, the app runs fine, until I discover something else doesnt work its fine in my eyes....appreciate the help man :) |
| 01:31.35 | gravity | I really need to put xfonts-base as a dependency in the xserver-xorg package |
| 01:31.53 | SerajewelKS | gravity: that would help, yeah ;) |
| 01:32.30 | SerajewelKS | gravity: still getting the error. this because of the fonts path change? |
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| 01:34.17 | SerajewelKS | gravity: Xvnc seems to be looking in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc |
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| 01:36.23 | gravity | SerajewelKS: Yeah, probably. Just symlink the dir or something |
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| 01:39.01 | SerajewelKS | gravity: are you aware of a way to get Xvnc to serve connections without requiring a password? not providing a password file makes it reject all connections. |
| 01:39.13 | gravity | SerajewelKS: No, sorry. I've never used Xvnc before |
| 01:39.30 | SerajewelKS | gravity: nevermind, i should have just read the manpage |
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| 01:44.53 | SerajewelKS | which package provides the gecko libraries? |
| 01:45.11 | s0crates | is there any parameter I can give to dpkg-buildpackage to create a static compile? |
| 01:45.53 | Phrozen_One` | has there been an issue with slow network performance within Deb? network speed is fine on my win box? |
| 01:46.33 | SerajewelKS | libgecko2.0-cil seems to be missing a dependency or something. right as the gecko control starts to render something it segfaults. |
| 01:47.08 | SerajewelKS | or is missing a font, or a service, or... |
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| 01:49.02 | s0crates | to build static libraries I mean |
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| 01:49.31 | some_dude | hi |
| 01:50.17 | some_dude | I setup an ssh key, so i can ssh to my server with no password, but how can i rsync with no password ? |
| 01:50.37 | Master_Medic | how do you install a file thats .deb? |
| 01:50.44 | SerajewelKS | Master_Medic: dpkg -i |
| 01:51.02 | Master_Medic | okay thanks |
| 01:51.23 | some_dude | I thought like rsync -i ~/key user@host ..... |
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| 01:52.13 | Master_Medic | what is a good torrent downloader program for sid thats out there? |
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| 01:54.59 | justin420 | hi all. anybody help with getting my linksys wpc54gx version 2 to work on a fresh install of debian sarge? |
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| 01:58.57 | rhys | how do i make copy not copy over what is already there? |
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| 01:59.34 | s0crates | Master_Medic: bittornado |
| 01:59.41 | rhys | like i have files A B and C in a directory. and i have files A in another directory. can i make it copy over the directory, but see that A already exists, and not transfer that? |
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| 01:59.53 | Master_Medic | s0crates, does that have a gui or is it just text based? |
| 02:02.03 | pipeline | Master_Medic: Either one, but it's lousy in either case. |
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| 02:02.17 | pipeline | Master_Medic: Azureus is about the least-lousy torrent client on the platform. There's no equivalent of utorrent, that's for damn sure. |
| 02:02.49 | scott | hey is there any kind of force format command??? |
| 02:02.54 | mad_muppet | I have downloaded the debian net install iso do I burn it as a zip or do I unzip it first? |
| 02:03.39 | s0crates | pipeline: if I had started downloading torrents on windows system to my linux partition by using a fs driver, can I continue downloading the torrent through linux? |
| 02:03.52 | Master_Medic | pipeline, okay thinka |
| 02:03.54 | Master_Medic | thanks* |
| 02:04.00 | s0crates | i was using azures in my other sys |
| 02:04.13 | s0crates | Master_Medic: yeah, I tried bittornado, but didn't really get good results |
| 02:04.27 | scott | hey guys is there any programs made for PURE duisk management? like inwindows xp when you can create partitions, format etc.... |
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| 02:05.14 | Master_Medic | i'll just try to get azureus on it |
| 02:05.29 | Master_Medic | even though its on the package list for sid it wont let me install it |
| 02:05.33 | Master_Medic | so i got a deb from google |
| 02:06.06 | rhys | what time is it? |
| 02:06.52 | pipeline | s0crates: I don't se wehy not. |
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| 02:07.01 | tongueroo | while installing apache2 and instead of using ./configure --prefix="/usr/local/apache2", i used ./configure --prefix="/usr/local", so my /usr/local diretory is all messed up, is there a way to easily uninstall apache2 cleanly? |
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| 02:07.48 | domster | tongueroo: make remove |
| 02:08.00 | tongueroo | domster: thanks!! |
| 02:08.14 | s0crates | pipeline: i'm just afraid that in trying i will overwrite what i already have |
| 02:08.24 | domster | tongueroo: maybe, not sure |
| 02:08.24 | Phrozen_One` | apparently libqt3c102-mt and opera are conflicting with the KDE packages.....any ideas on how to fix this prob? |
| 02:09.12 | domster | tongueroo: in fact, pretty not-sure |
| 02:09.20 | tongueroo | yea, i just tried it: make: *** No rule to make target `remove'. Stop. |
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| 02:10.24 | domster | tongueroo: yeah, and I don't think there's an 'uninstall' target either |
| 02:10.37 | domster | although you could check by reading the Makefile |
| 02:10.49 | tongueroo | yeah im reading through it now |
| 02:11.12 | domster | might be stuck rm'ing manually :-( |
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| 02:11.36 | tongueroo | fucking a |
| 02:12.02 | tongueroo | thats what i was thinking |
| 02:12.03 | tongueroo | man |
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| 02:14.06 | domster | I'd reinstall it somewhere to check which files are where under the prefix, but it'd be tedious |
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| 02:14.41 | domster | the good news is that it doesn't install stuff anywhere else |
| 02:17.27 | tongueroo | domster: haha, thanks, thats exactly what im doing right now |
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| 02:22.29 | SerajewelKS | phew, after all that chrooting it does seem to be a libgecko2.0-cil bug |
| 02:23.35 | \amethyst | tongueroo: find /new/dir/ | rev | while read x; do if [ -d "$x" ]; then rm "$x"; else rm "`echo "$x" | sed -e 's,/new/dir,/usr/local,'`"; fi; done |
| 02:23.53 | \amethyst | err |
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| 02:24.52 | \amethyst | tongueroo: find /new/dir/ | rev | while read x; do y=`echo $x | sed -e 's,/new/dir,/usr/local,'`; if [ -d "$y" ]; then rmdir "$y"; else rm "$y"; fi; done |
| 02:24.56 | cafuego | rm on a dir isn't highly useful |
| 02:25.03 | cafuego | <heh> |
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| 02:25.23 | eyeris | Is there a way to boot the debian netinst ISO image from a USB thumb drive? |
| 02:25.23 | SerajewelKS | the hell, this bug seems to have come from the resolved wishlist bug... |
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| 02:26.06 | SerajewelKS | eyeris: maybe.. but when the installer goes to look for the root filesystem it's not going to find it on /dev/cdrom |
| 02:26.13 | cafuego | eyeris: Yes. 'loadlin' |
| 02:26.34 | eyeris | cafuego, of course! I should have thought of that. |
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| 02:26.48 | cafuego | http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 02:26.52 | nn | when you install packages with cgi's and stuff, where do they end up? :) |
| 02:27.01 | cafuego | err, syslinux even :-) |
| 02:27.02 | SerajewelKS | nn: dpkg -L packagename |
| 02:27.14 | cafuego | nn: usually in /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 02:27.31 | nn | ahh |
| 02:27.40 | nn | there we go :) |
| 02:28.18 | nn | i've got a whole assload of packages i gotta make :\ |
| 02:28.28 | thingfish | !beer Debian |
| 02:28.54 | SerajewelKS | any reason why bugs.d.o emails are processed every 15 minutes? why not 5? |
| 02:29.08 | nn | processor usage? :) |
| 02:29.25 | nn | Also.. is it normal for my ide controller to be using like 70% CPU usage? |
| 02:29.38 | nn | i'm only writing to two drives... |
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| 02:29.59 | SerajewelKS | nn: i doubt that running the queue three more times will amount to significantly more processor usage. it will use a third of the CPU power three times more often. |
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| 02:39.25 | tongueroo | amethyst: thanks i was 90% removing when i read your bash commands, but ill keep that snippet for later, in case i do something dumb like that again |
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| 02:42.02 | loopdee | hello, where would I go to change which modules load, or even better in which order ? |
| 02:42.21 | SerajewelKS | loopdee: /etc/modules |
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| 02:43.57 | nn | anyone know if there's any projects related to gis/geospatial modelling in debian? |
| 02:44.06 | loopdee | what about for X11 ? |
| 02:44.20 | SerajewelKS | loopdee: what? |
| 02:45.27 | loopdee | SerajewelKS, im trying to fix a problem with X and using these ati drivers, i was told to change the order in which the modules load, but i don't know where |
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| 02:45.38 | SerajewelKS | loopdee: i said /etc/modules |
| 02:46.05 | Thanatermesis | how the kernels created by debian add the entry automatically on the menu.lst of grub and no the created by kpkg ? |
| 02:46.41 | loopdee | SerajewelKS, theres only 5 entries in there and they have nothing to do with X and fglrx ... |
| 02:46.53 | SerajewelKS | loopdee: so add the ones you need, in the order you need them |
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| 02:47.27 | loopdee | ahhh , ok , i think I know the names of them.. if they are not listed in there then they get loaded whenever seems right or something ? |
| 02:47.48 | SerajewelKS | loopdee: they will probably get loaded by udev/hotplug when X starts |
| 02:48.23 | nn | I really like how 2.6 works |
| 02:48.28 | nn | 2.4 kind of upset me... |
| 02:48.36 | loopdee | ok |
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| 03:00.49 | SerajewelKS | is the bugs.d.o queue runner even running? i sent a report 45 minutes ago and haven't received any confirmation email. |
| 03:01.06 | gravity | It tends to get bogged down |
| 03:02.25 | SerajewelKS | =/ |
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| 03:05.18 | nn | I'm afraid of canada :( |
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| 03:18.59 | ice_1963 | what is this error i keep geting with synaptic gpgv ? |
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| 03:20.06 | rhys | ah |
| 03:20.10 | rhys | im getting errors in aptitude |
| 03:20.14 | rhys | and apt for that matter |
| 03:20.16 | rhys | ive made a repository |
| 03:20.38 | rhys | main/binary-i386 and contrib/binary-i386 |
| 03:20.47 | rhys | thats where i put the package files.. |
| 03:21.01 | rhys | is there some kind of heiarchy that it needs? |
| 03:21.22 | ice_1963 | rhys, can i fix this error? |
| 03:21.36 | rhys | ah...i think so |
| 03:21.38 | rhys | ?? |
| 03:21.46 | rhys | i dont know. thats why im asking |
| 03:21.47 | rhys | :( |
| 03:21.58 | ice_1963 | ok :) |
| 03:22.03 | rhys | i have 15 thousand packages and cant use any of them. :( |
| 03:22.14 | ice_1963 | hmm |
| 03:23.18 | rhys | i was using this |
| 03:23.20 | rhys | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto |
| 03:24.51 | SerajewelKS | is there some /proc node or something to see how hot my CPU is? |
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| 03:28.41 | mpoer | I recently got my zd1201-type usb wifi stick to work from boot, but if i take it out i have to reboot to use it again. i think it has to do with hotplug and/or udev, neither of which i fully understand. can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 03:30.44 | errno_signal | hi guys, using dfsee, i was able to find partitions on a bad-partition-table'd disk. Unfortunately, the program doesn't make any changes to the disk, opting to save the results to a logfile instead. Is there a way (a tool?) for me to write the partition table myself? |
| 03:32.20 | mpoer | errno_signal, try "apt-cache search partition" or something to that effect. I believe there is a package called "partman" |
| 03:32.52 | errno_signal | mpoer: thanks, i'm looking at testdisk atm |
| 03:32.59 | errno_signal | mpoer: i'll tryout both |
| 03:33.09 | mpoer | diversity doesn't hurt |
| 03:33.13 | mpoer | good luck |
| 03:34.31 | errno_signal | thanks |
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| 03:35.27 | freeone3000 | How would I fix "connection reset by peer" issues when starting x? |
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| 03:36.02 | mpoer | freeone3000, are you running xorg or xfree86? |
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| 03:36.27 | freeone3000 | mpoer: xorg, I'm on sid. |
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| 03:39.13 | EruditeHermit | hey, when I try to login via a console I can login, but when I try to run any commands I get errors like error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. The library is different depending on the command. |
| 03:39.41 | EruditeHermit | however GDM logins work fine and console sessions launched from within the GDM sessions work fine |
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| 03:39.53 | EruditeHermit | ssh sessions display the same error as the console logins |
| 03:39.57 | EruditeHermit | can anyone help? |
| 03:40.14 | tonsofpcs | you're missing libraries |
| 03:40.27 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: they are all there |
| 03:40.28 | tonsofpcs | or you have bad versions |
| 03:40.47 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: everything works fine from within an X session |
| 03:41.09 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: also when running stuff in console mode at runlevel 2, everything is fine |
| 03:41.14 | tonsofpcs | odd |
| 03:41.20 | tonsofpcs | drive failing? what's fsck say? |
| 03:41.30 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: SMART says drive is fine |
| 03:42.08 | tonsofpcs | SMART? |
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| 03:42.13 | SerajewelKS | !smart |
| 03:42.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, smart is the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure, or see the smartmontools package. |
| 03:42.16 | Diablita | Hola, Estoy En Busca De Nuevos Amigos . . . |
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| 03:42.34 | tonsofpcs | SMART != fsck |
| 03:42.42 | rhys | anyone know anything about setting up a local debian repository? |
| 03:42.50 | stew | rhys: /msg dpkg repository |
| 03:42.55 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: ok, let me try the equivalent for fsck for xfs |
| 03:43.02 | EruditeHermit | I'll get back to you in a minute |
| 03:43.06 | tonsofpcs | a minute? |
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| 03:43.34 | rhys | stew , thats what i was using. that page. |
| 03:43.36 | rhys | and it doesnt work |
| 03:44.17 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: probably more like 10mins |
| 03:44.18 | EruditeHermit | =p |
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| 03:45.21 | tonsofpcs | get back to me in an hour ;) |
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| 03:48.13 | freeone3000 | What should I do about a xorg "reset by peer" error? |
| 03:48.22 | freeone3000 | Error in such that I don't have X. -.- |
| 03:50.43 | rhys | how do you resume a stopped program? i accidently hit ctrl+z |
| 03:50.50 | tonsofpcs | fg |
| 03:50.54 | rhys | ty |
| 03:50.55 | tonsofpcs | [foreground] |
| 03:51.02 | rhys | ooo |
| 03:51.11 | gravity | jobs is also useful |
| 03:51.22 | tonsofpcs | ps aux |
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| 03:52.33 | Diablita | Deseo Conocer Chicos Para Intercambiar Emails . . |
| 03:52.59 | tonsofpcs | hmmm, what does 'break' do in screen? |
| 03:53.46 | rhys | ok. im gretting these errors. W: Couldnt stat source package list file: stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_srv_repo_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 no such file or direcotry) |
| 03:54.16 | rhys | only...i have that directory. thats exactly where packages.gz is. |
| 03:54.22 | rhys | and i tried renaming it to Packages |
| 03:54.24 | heh_v_water | rhys, apt-get update |
| 03:54.25 | rhys | and it doesnt find it |
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| 03:55.24 | rhys | heh_v_water, apt-get update gives me the exact same error |
| 03:55.36 | freeone3000 | What could cause a "connectoin reset by peer" error on Xorg? |
| 03:56.27 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, a misconfigured x-server |
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| 03:57.02 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would fix it, right? |
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| 03:57.42 | freeone3000 | "xserver is not installed" apt-get install xserver-xorg "xserver-xorg is already the newest version" |
| 03:57.49 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, yes if you choose the proper video card or missing device or whatever, you really need to check your xorg log in /var/log to see what really went wrong |
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| 03:57.57 | freeone3000 | DAH! Windows did something. Something EVIL~! |
| 03:58.09 | rhys | AHHH! workage\!!!! |
| 03:58.28 | heh_v_water | where is everyone and why is it so quiet in here... |
| 03:58.40 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: There is no log in /var/log of anything for 'x' besides exim |
| 03:58.55 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, then you got lots of problems |
| 03:59.10 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: I tried installing windows on another partition. You're telling me. |
| 03:59.19 | poer | try "apt-get install xorg" |
| 03:59.30 | freeone3000 | poer: It swears it's installed and up-to-date. |
| 03:59.33 | poer | xorg is a meta package to make sure you have all of the xorg components |
| 04:00.03 | stoned | which option do I select in k3b if I want to burn a video dvd? |
| 04:00.26 | heh_v_water | stoned, copy or burn your own? |
| 04:00.49 | heh_v_water | if you copy it's in tools up top |
| 04:00.49 | stoned | from avi/mpg vide |
| 04:00.56 | stoned | not from a dvd |
| 04:01.04 | freeone3000 | poer: Same. |
| 04:01.06 | poer | you'll need to encode that to DVD format |
| 04:01.07 | stoned | please help quick becasue I have company over and i need to burn it before they lave |
| 04:01.10 | heh_v_water | I think you have to encode it first |
| 04:01.12 | stoned | sorry for sounding desperate |
| 04:01.13 | poer | really, freeone? |
| 04:01.15 | stoned | on time |
| 04:01.18 | stew | !hurry |
| 04:01.18 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 04:01.23 | stoned | but I really need to burn it in a bit |
| 04:01.26 | heh_v_water | stoned, good luck |
| 04:01.28 | stoned | sorry I don't u sually do this |
| 04:01.30 | poer | freeone, is this a fresh install? |
| 04:01.32 | stoned | I am a patent man |
| 04:01.37 | stoned | but drunk right now |
| 04:01.39 | stoned | despite my nickname |
| 04:01.40 | stoned | hehe |
| 04:01.42 | heh_v_water | stoned, the encoding takes a while |
| 04:01.58 | stoned | its ok, i just didn't know which option to selec tin k3b to burn video dvd |
| 04:01.58 | heh_v_water | stoned, then you have to build dvd menus blah blah etc etc |
| 04:02.03 | stoned | ahhh |
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| 04:02.19 | poer | it's not a quick thing... you have to find an encoder program |
| 04:02.24 | freeone3000 | Encoding takes freakin FOREVER. As in hours. |
| 04:02.25 | stoned | I see |
| 04:02.28 | freeone3000 | At 100% CPU. :( |
| 04:02.38 | freeone3000 | Burn as data, if at all possible. |
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| 04:02.40 | heh_v_water | stoned, if they have a pc just burn a data cd |
| 04:02.41 | poer | i've never done it, but try "apt-cache search dvd" |
| 04:02.47 | heh_v_water | or dvd |
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| 04:03.04 | freeone3000 | poer: Nope, it's been working for months. |
| 04:03.16 | heh_v_water | poer,it's alot of work in linux, just not easy if you ask me |
| 04:03.18 | freeone3000 | poer: This is an issue after I've infected myself with the demons of microsoft. |
| 04:03.27 | freeone3000 | poer: (Windows XP on partition 2) |
| 04:03.28 | poer | oh no |
| 04:03.34 | poer | owch |
| 04:03.44 | heh_v_water | hate to say it but that makes two of us |
| 04:03.52 | freeone3000 | Well, TRIED to. The CD borked and I either need to A) Pirate, or B) Get another key. |
| 04:03.53 | poer | I have no idea what XP would/could do to your linux partition... |
| 04:03.59 | genti | hello people, i have a simle question, i just need a link that I am not able to find |
| 04:04.11 | freeone3000 | poer: It's mostly intact, obviously, as I'm here and IRCing. |
| 04:04.14 | genti | i want to bind two network adaptes |
| 04:04.19 | poer | I see |
| 04:04.20 | freeone3000 | poer: It's not like I installed OVER linux. It's a seperate partition. |
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| 04:04.29 | heh_v_water | poer, nothing as long as they dont mess with the linux partition, no different than having 4 ext3 partitions or whatever |
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| 04:04.39 | poer | yeah, but Windows has a tendancy to erase non-fat/ntfs stuff on your hdd |
| 04:04.57 | goudkov | hey guys, when I do "ssh -X" to a remote box, DISPLAY is no set. i checked the ssh logs but can't find any clues. what should I try? |
| 04:05.01 | poer | it also can't read/write to them... so i don't know how it could have hurt it |
| 04:05.10 | heh_v_water | poer, true and some XP installs had bad default choices too |
| 04:05.24 | cafuego | poer: No, it ignores those partitions and wipes the MBR. |
| 04:05.26 | genti | i remember reading it from probably a book but i am not find it online, i had to create eth0:0 and eth1:0 and bind them |
| 04:05.32 | genti | or something like that |
| 04:05.36 | heh_v_water | well if someone had ntfs mounted and started writing to it chances are windows will scream when you go back to it and maybe crumble |
| 04:05.37 | freeone3000 | I fixed the MBR. |
| 04:05.44 | poer | gotcha |
| 04:05.45 | cafuego | Shit though it may be, it doesn't by default destroy non-windows partitions. |
| 04:05.49 | poer | did any of your boot process change? |
| 04:05.56 | heh_v_water | but you can't mount ext partitions with windows without downloading software to do so |
| 04:06.06 | freeone3000 | Er. No warnings other than deprecated crap and MySQL complaining very verbosely about it being overly verbose. |
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| 04:06.47 | raden | to get sound from gaim i have to use command aplay "%s" is there a way i can make the volume 50% ? |
| 04:06.49 | poer | bye |
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| 04:08.08 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: You seem to know what you're talking about... So. Anything? I wanna do stuff that requires X. Like, watch hardsubbed stuff. |
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| 04:08.29 | stew | raden: you can set mixer volumes from the command line with amixer |
| 04:08.35 | heh_v_water | freeone why not just uninstall xorg and try reinstalling it maybe |
| 04:08.44 | raden | stew, i want amrok to be 100 % |
| 04:08.55 | raden | see i like my music load but not my ims :) |
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| 04:09.02 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: Because that'll wipe every X app I have. |
| 04:09.11 | stew | raden: you could change the volume of the actual files with sox |
| 04:09.13 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: And KDE is not just something you reinstall. |
| 04:09.28 | raden | stew, excellent suggestion thanks bro |
| 04:09.33 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, no it doesn't everything is modular and kde will not be schmucked neither has anything to do with each other except one has to be running for the other to work |
| 04:09.50 | freeone3000 | Let's try it! |
| 04:10.03 | gravity | freeone3000: What's your error again? |
| 04:10.04 | freeone3000 | Wow. You're right. Schweet, thanks. |
| 04:10.12 | freeone3000 | gravity: "Connection reset by peer". |
| 04:10.16 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, if it were me I would purge it but just try a uninstall for now |
| 04:10.16 | gravity | hrm |
| 04:10.18 | genti | but i really do not never mind i figured out |
| 04:10.20 | gravity | I've seen that before... |
| 04:10.27 | freeone3000 | gravity: Did you fix it? |
| 04:10.33 | gravity | freeone3000: Does that happen with all apps? |
| 04:10.50 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, that is a general line in ANY xorg error |
| 04:11.06 | heh_v_water | you have to have the log to look at so you can see the actuall error log |
| 04:11.07 | freeone3000 | gravity: It happens when I try to start x itself, and it's not being logged. |
| 04:11.19 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: Would work better if there WAS a log. There's no log. |
| 04:11.22 | heh_v_water | if you use gdm or kdm and it crashes usually it will offer to let you see the entire error |
| 04:11.27 | gravity | freeone3000: Ok, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? |
| 04:11.35 | gravity | freeone3000: You should look for errors in there |
| 04:11.45 | heh_v_water | weeeeee |
| 04:12.16 | freeone3000 | Sorry. I looked at the wrong file. >.< |
| 04:12.21 | gravity | hrmpf |
| 04:12.23 | freeone3000 | Well, there's no errors in the log. |
| 04:12.34 | gravity | Post it in a pastebin please |
| 04:12.37 | gravity | Or in a paster |
| 04:13.01 | icebreeze | hmph anyone have any suggestions on what i should do to trouble shoot having my system hardlock everytime i go and run a opengl prog? i have a savage card installed |
| 04:13.24 | gravity | icebreeze: There's a page on the x.org (or freedesktop.org wiki, not sure) about debugging the X server |
| 04:13.53 | icebreeze | gravity: well i know how to debug the server but i seem to get no output the server just crashes |
| 04:13.58 | icebreeze | gravity: i check the log |
| 04:14.20 | freeone3000 | gravity: http://pastebin.ca/76785 |
| 04:14.45 | icebreeze | its really annoying that i have more luck with gentoo than debian and ubuntu lol |
| 04:14.58 | icebreeze | a distro that is supposedly faster to set up is giving me more trouble :-/ |
| 04:15.02 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: Reinstalled, same problem... |
| 04:15.09 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, that doesn't look like the entire log to me |
| 04:15.15 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: That's the entire log. |
| 04:15.22 | gravity | Indeed |
| 04:15.30 | gravity | urgh |
| 04:15.32 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: That was posted to pastebin.ca via upload file as root using w3m as my browser. |
| 04:15.33 | gravity | nvidia-glx |
| 04:15.55 | gravity | Why do I get the feeling that your nvidia driver isn't compatible with your xorg |
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| 04:16.28 | freeone3000 | But... it worked before... |
| 04:16.34 | gravity | freeone3000: Well, what did you change? |
| 04:16.37 | gravity | What was "before"? |
| 04:16.40 | freeone3000 | gravity: I installed windows. |
| 04:16.44 | freeone3000 | gravity: Before was "yesterday". |
| 04:16.44 | heh_v_water | hey paste lsmod somewhere |
| 04:16.50 | gravity | freeone3000: That's all you did? |
| 04:16.52 | freeone3000 | gravity: Another logical partition. |
| 04:16.58 | heh_v_water | wanna see if you have a driver conflict |
| 04:16.59 | freeone3000 | gravity: That and regular system maitnance. |
| 04:17.14 | gravity | freeone3000: "regular system maintainance"? |
| 04:17.16 | gravity | What does that mean? |
| 04:17.21 | freeone3000 | gravity: Upgrading half my system. I'm on sid. |
| 04:17.24 | EruditeHermit | tonsofpcs: so I did xfs_check and xfs_repair (the equivalents of fsck for xfs) and everything is clean |
| 04:17.25 | gravity | Yeah... |
| 04:17.34 | gravity | freeone3000: Ok, what did that include? What did you upgrade? |
| 04:17.45 | gravity | freeone3000: Anything X related? Anything related to the nvidia drivers? |
| 04:17.46 | freeone3000 | gravity: Er. Python, xorg, and OOo... duh. |
| 04:18.03 | gravity | freeone3000: All of Xorg? |
| 04:18.09 | freeone3000 | Pretty much all, yeah. |
| 04:18.10 | gravity | Or just like xdm and xtrans? |
| 04:18.16 | freeone3000 | Don't have either... |
| 04:18.16 | gravity | freeone3000: From what version? |
| 04:18.24 | freeone3000 | 7.someodd. |
| 04:18.35 | gravity | You had 7 before? |
| 04:18.39 | freeone3000 | I've been at 7.0 for a while. |
| 04:18.52 | gravity | Well you should find out exactly what you upgraded |
| 04:19.16 | freeone3000 | Where's the apt downlaoded package cache? |
| 04:19.20 | gravity | The only really recent xorg updates were xdm, xbase-clients, and xtrans-dev over the past few days |
| 04:19.26 | gravity | freeone3000: /var/cache/apt |
| 04:19.44 | gravity | Although you should have apt-listchanges installed and sending you mails of changelogs every time you upgrade |
| 04:19.56 | gravity | If you set it up to do so that is, which is wise |
| 04:20.28 | freeone3000 | things unpurged: sbcl, rbot, ruby1.8, and xorg(that's todays) |
| 04:20.41 | freeone3000 | And some libs. |
| 04:20.46 | freeone3000 | Odd. I remember... ah well. |
| 04:20.58 | gravity | Just the xorg package? No other x-related things? |
| 04:21.05 | gravity | The xorg package shouldn't do much of anything |
| 04:21.07 | freeone3000 | No, and that was from about 5 mins ago. |
| 04:21.17 | freeone3000 | and xserver-xorg. Also from 5 mins aog. |
| 04:21.21 | gravity | Ah |
| 04:21.43 | gravity | That also shouldn't be as critical. xserver-xorg-core would be important |
| 04:21.58 | gravity | Although... how did you install the nvidia driver? |
| 04:22.06 | freeone3000 | ./NVIDIA-[tab][enter] |
| 04:22.13 | gravity | Urgh |
| 04:22.15 | gravity | Ok |
| 04:22.17 | freeone3000 | nvidia-glx does not give me openGL 2.0 |
| 04:22.21 | freeone3000 | When it does, I'll use it. |
| 04:22.23 | heh_v_water | freeone3000, I have some tips for nvidia 1 sec |
| 04:22.27 | heh_v_water | with xorg |
| 04:22.32 | gravity | I don't know how to handle that driver. You're on your own. |
| 04:22.42 | gravity | I've got enough problems to deal with with the free drivers |
| 04:22.52 | freeone3000 | These are free. Oh you mean libre. |
| 04:22.56 | freeone3000 | Stupid people with ideals. |
| 04:23.00 | gravity | fuck off |
| 04:23.05 | heh_v_water | http://pastebin.ca/76817 |
| 04:23.16 | heh_v_water | maybe some of that can help |
| 04:23.25 | gravity | It's those ideals that give you an Xorg to even run ass hole |
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| 04:24.11 | Thanatermesis__ | freeone3000, http://thanatermesis.org/mediawiki/index.php/Article_Importance_of_Free_Drivers |
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| 04:27.12 | ttyfscker | how do i kill the sound server? and restart it? i have a sound that has got messed up and it keeps playing repeatedly and i closed theproggy that caused it, however the sound is still coming out of the speakers |
| 04:27.25 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, I purged it. Thanks. |
| 04:27.42 | tonsofpcs | hmm, i hit pause/break an an irssi session by accident, how do i resume it? |
| 04:28.15 | freeone3000 | I appear to be running an xserver? whatthesmeg? |
| 04:28.28 | freeone3000 | Fine. No more nvidia drivers. I'll try the free ones again. |
| 04:28.51 | heh_v_water | i personally have better luck with the nvidia ones for some reason... |
| 04:29.12 | freeone3000 | Ah! That's why. They were broken themselves from teh nvidia-glx purge. |
| 04:29.34 | freeone3000 | ...What are the signs that I'm running X? |
| 04:29.44 | gravity | ... |
| 04:29.47 | heh_v_water | ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 |
| 04:29.52 | heh_v_water | a mouse on you console.. |
| 04:30.20 | heh_v_water | how bout a ps ax|grep xorg or whatever |
| 04:30.54 | freeone3000 | ps aux | grep -i x is finding my mp3 player and exim. |
| 04:31.02 | freeone3000 | (300 songs, x will come up at least once.) |
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| 04:32.26 | heh_v_water | look for gdm or kdm or xdm running too |
| 04:32.55 | freeone3000 | heh_v_water: I don't have either installed. |
| 04:33.16 | freeone3000 | ps aux | grep dm gets me... my mp3 player. |
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| 04:33.42 | freeone3000 | Unless ncurses == x now... |
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| 04:33.50 | heh_v_water | freeone300, all I can say at this point is the pleasure of running sid is sometimes tarnished by hard work and headaches |
| 04:34.16 | freeone3000 | I'll try running it clean. |
| 04:35.16 | heh_v_water | i'm not a guru of any sorts btw, i am just some guy that uses debian for work and play and loves *almost* every minute of it |
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| 04:40.18 | freeone3000 | A restart fixed it. Thanks. |
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| 04:42.07 | freeone3000 | Nevermind. I don't have glx. |
| 04:44.23 | ttyfscker | whats the package that contains alsaconf? |
| 04:44.30 | ttyfscker | in etch |
| 04:44.39 | heh_v_water | alsa-utils I believe |
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| 04:45.06 | heh_v_water | might be alsa-tools too |
| 04:45.11 | heh_v_water | both those packages exist |
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| 04:46.41 | ttyfscker | i just didnt know how alsa was working and everything but it doesnt have none of the binary files that usually comes with it.. |
| 04:46.55 | ttyfscker | i've always had to set alsa up before |
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| 04:51.58 | ttyfscker | does debian not have OSS packages? |
| 04:52.58 | snappy | OSS as in oss sound? i dont think OSS is free. |
| 04:56.03 | ttyfscker | hmm |
| 04:56.10 | ttyfscker | i never paid for anything with OSS before |
| 05:01.46 | Thanatermesis | hpoj is deprecated ? |
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| 05:05.49 | SerajewelKS | !oss |
| 05:05.49 | dpkg | i guess oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 05:06.05 | EruditeHermit | hey, is there a way to regenerate /etc/shadow and related files? |
| 05:06.13 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: regenerate? |
| 05:06.26 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: from what? |
| 05:06.38 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: I think my /etc/shadow is corrupted because it looks different to the same file on other machines |
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| 05:06.56 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: what other file do you propose to regenerate /etc/shadow from? |
| 05:07.05 | f0urtyfive | hey |
| 05:07.06 | EruditeHermit | I dunno |
| 05:07.12 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: exactly |
| 05:07.29 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: on 2 of my machines /etc/gshadow is something like root:*:: |
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| 05:07.40 | f0urtyfive | anyone have any ideas on how to handle the master zone files (zone files that are >3 GB), to make them "searchable", I cant figure out a way to do it in a reasonable ammount of time (< 1 day) |
| 05:07.40 | EruditeHermit | on my other machine it says root:!:: |
| 05:07.45 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: /etc/shadow is not /etc/gshadow |
| 05:08.03 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: yeah, but the similar thing for /etc/shadow |
| 05:08.08 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: it has ! instead of * |
| 05:08.13 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: do you know what that means? |
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| 05:08.20 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: * and ! serve identical purposes in those files |
| 05:08.29 | EruditeHermit | oh |
| 05:08.31 | EruditeHermit | ok |
| 05:08.40 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: neither is a valid MD5 encrypted password hash. so they will both lock out an account/group. |
| 05:08.57 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: I am trying to figure out why I can't login via console, but I can via X |
| 05:09.20 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: btw asking how to regenerate /etc/shadow or /etc/passwd is like asking how to regenerate MySQL database files that you deleted. if you don't have backups, tough luck. |
| 05:09.22 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: well actually I can login via console but I get errors like error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:09.37 | EruditeHermit | when I try to run any command |
| 05:09.47 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: that shouldn't be related to /etc/shadow |
| 05:09.49 | EruditeHermit | but when I run them from an x terminal, it is fine |
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| 05:10.15 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: what does 'ls -l /lib/librt.so.1' say |
| 05:10.17 | EruditeHermit | I can't login via consoles or SSH |
| 05:10.18 | pythos | mornin! |
| 05:10.21 | f0urtyfive | EruditeHermit: you're system is fcked :P |
| 05:10.22 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: the libs exist |
| 05:10.38 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: from inside X try running: apt-get --reinstall install libc6 |
| 05:10.55 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: done that many times |
| 05:11.14 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: run 'ldconfig' as root |
| 05:11.18 | EruditeHermit | that too |
| 05:11.24 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: reinstall debian |
| 05:11.24 | EruditeHermit | i'll do it again for kicks |
| 05:11.25 | EruditeHermit | one sec |
| 05:11.26 | EruditeHermit | lol |
| 05:11.46 | pythos | hey, wondering if anyone else has seen this: using a sarge install with ipmasq, I can't get any other machines to do net-installs thru it. It also happens that some routers will not function behind that sarge masq box either, ideas? |
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| 05:12.04 | SerajewelKS | pythos: got a DHCP server running? |
| 05:12.10 | pythos | nope |
| 05:12.14 | EruditeHermit | SerajewelKS: is there any alternative? |
| 05:12.27 | EruditeHermit | I really don't want to reinstall |
| 05:12.30 | SerajewelKS | EruditeHermit: not to my knowledge, but there could be a way. i'm not sure exactly what's wrong. |
| 05:12.47 | keram | I'm trying to share the internet connection of my sid box with a fc4 box, but so far I've had no luck, can somenoe help me do this? |
| 05:13.01 | SerajewelKS | pythos: so you are statically assigning addresses then |
| 05:13.24 | SerajewelKS | pythos: did you use your ipmasq box's IP address for the gateway in d-i? |
| 05:13.27 | pythos | indeed yes |
| 05:13.36 | pythos | yes as well |
| 05:13.45 | SerajewelKS | pythos: and you are running some kind of DNS proxy, or are manually specifying your ISP's DNS server? |
| 05:14.03 | pythos | manual entry for dns servers |
| 05:14.10 | pythos | no proxy |
| 05:14.19 | SerajewelKS | pythos: hmm, run ethereal/tcpdump on the ipmasq box and see what's going on? |
| 05:15.06 | SerajewelKS | speaking of ethereal, is there some way to use the ethereal GUI on my server without installing ethereal or trucking tcpdump output across the network? |
| 05:15.08 | pythos | hey, that is a good idea. The basic problem is that no ping replys come back from the masq gateway. |
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| 05:15.22 | SerajewelKS | like running tcpdump in a "server mode" or somesuch and ethereal talking to it? |
| 05:15.38 | SerajewelKS | pythos: when pinging the gateway or when pinging stuff on the other side? |
| 05:15.46 | pythos | both |
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| 05:16.03 | SerajewelKS | pythos: hmm, check your iptables rules on the server? maybe it's dropping icmp ping? |
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| 05:16.38 | SerajewelKS | pythos: also, what is between the ipmasq box and the d-i box? switch? router? crossover? |
| 05:16.41 | pythos | well, the even stranger thing is that some routers work, and almost any other distro works |
| 05:17.00 | pythos | all of the above |
| 05:17.08 | SerajewelKS | pythos: O_o |
| 05:17.51 | pythos | I cant be teh first to have problem with doing net-install from behind debian installed masq box... but it has been that way for years |
| 05:18.22 | SerajewelKS | pythos: i've never seen any problem with it firsthand |
| 05:18.27 | pythos | and the ting with the different routers working/not working... that has been long time too |
| 05:18.33 | pythos | ever tried it tho? |
| 05:18.45 | SerajewelKS | pythos: no, but i could |
| 05:18.59 | pythos | you have masq box set? |
| 05:19.16 | SerajewelKS | pythos: well i don't use ipmasq to route, i use iptables... |
| 05:19.41 | SerajewelKS | pythos: though IIRC ipmasq is just a collection of scripts that tell iptables to masquerade |
| 05:19.45 | pythos | hm... well masq does use iptables... but that is symantic |
| 05:19.56 | pythos | ya |
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| 05:20.16 | SerajewelKS | pythos: i've got d-i to work inside vmware using its NAT |
| 05:21.01 | SerajewelKS | pythos: anyway try tcpdump on the masq box and see what you can dig up |
| 05:21.39 | coward | here's what I wnat to do: I donn't wnat to use dlopen; I want to write out in machine code the representation of a function; then I want to get a handle to it, and using dlsym, get a function pointer for the function I just wrote; I want to do this in Linux; how can I do this? |
| 05:21.40 | pythos | well, I can also use another distro for the masq'ing server, just I have found debian to be my "standard" distro, as I have too many boxen to try to keep distro differences from making me mess myself |
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| 05:22.59 | pythos | I actually loth the idea of going to redhat for anything... Perhaps one of the clones like Knopp would work... I can try that easily enough |
| 05:23.32 | ttyfscker | whats a good program to edit all of your startup scripts that are in rc*.d? preferably something that is GUI and not KsysV |
| 05:23.56 | pythos | wow, I would always use nano |
| 05:24.27 | SerajewelKS | ttyfscker: uhm don't run a GUI editor as root |
| 05:24.28 | pythos | although it is a non-gui, just a shell editor |
| 05:25.08 | SerajewelKS | !root |
| 05:25.09 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 05:25.34 | ttyfscker | SerajewelKS: i can sudo |
| 05:25.56 | SerajewelKS | ttyfscker: the editor would still be running as root |
| 05:26.16 | pythos | no compiling? Hmmm, I always compile kernel as root ... who wolda guessed |
| 05:26.48 | SerajewelKS | pythos: it's not a great idea but for things like the kernel it's probably ok |
| 05:27.20 | pythos | heh, I guess I don't compile other stuff. Im a binary man, I suppose |
| 05:28.53 | pythos | ok, well I guess its time for sleeping. thanke! |
| 05:29.21 | SerajewelKS | pythos: night |
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| 06:00.19 | eeg3 | Is ubuntu just a rip off of debian? |
| 06:01.13 | cahoot | define rip off |
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| 06:05.30 | dayi | I cant login as anonymous , I do the basic configuration but I am not able to login , dont I need to supply email address as password? |
| 06:08.01 | kristalino | wich free tool like plesk and cpanel would you recommand ? |
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| 06:12.42 | ScareCrow | What calls the MoTD when you login to your box? |
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| 06:14.39 | tonsofpcs | ScareCrow: depends |
| 06:14.55 | tonsofpcs | could be the getty, could be the login scripts |
| 06:15.07 | ScareCrow | how does debian do it? |
| 06:15.39 | tonsofpcs | not sure |
| 06:15.46 | tonsofpcs | i think the getty does it |
| 06:15.51 | ScareCrow | what is that? |
| 06:15.55 | ScareCrow | im new :) |
| 06:16.20 | tonsofpcs | are you just trying to change it, or are you trying to do something weird? |
| 06:16.27 | ScareCrow | do something weird |
| 06:16.31 | tonsofpcs | like? |
| 06:16.36 | ScareCrow | i wanted to call a couple of other things as soon as someone logs in |
| 06:16.40 | ScareCrow | right before it calls the motd |
| 06:17.11 | ScareCrow | its a PHP file that will output the date / time, uptime, users online, last login |
| 06:17.32 | tonsofpcs | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.34 | tonsofpcs | like that? |
| 06:17.53 | ScareCrow | kinda sorta |
| 06:18.15 | ScareCrow | it is made to combine with the motd |
| 06:18.22 | ScareCrow | so it will look like it is part of the motd |
| 06:18.23 | tonsofpcs | for postlogin, if bash is your shell, you can add it to the default bashrc |
| 06:18.34 | ScareCrow | :X |
| 06:18.34 | ScareCrow | :) |
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| 06:24.05 | tonsofpcs | although i'd like to know the answer to the same for sarge (i get the motd twice on ssh connect) |
| 06:24.28 | ScareCrow | it says that /etc/motd is called by login(1) |
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| 06:34.39 | some_dude | I setup a task using crontab -e but it's not running |
| 06:35.02 | ktwilight | have you checked the script? |
| 06:35.05 | ktwilight | syntax error? |
| 06:35.10 | some_dude | it's only one line |
| 06:35.15 | ktwilight | maybe not the time of the day yet? |
| 06:35.25 | some_dude | it's every five mins |
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| 06:35.56 | insmod | anyone interested in testing a video app? |
| 06:35.56 | ktwilight | so that one line has a problem? |
| 06:36.06 | some_dude | */10 * * * * rsync -avPS -e "ssh -i /root/identity/id_rsa" 192.168.20.2:/home / > /dev/null |
| 06:36.08 | ktwilight | fix that one line maybe? |
| 06:36.14 | some_dude | maybe |
| 06:36.14 | Big_Wolf | are there any other programs that are similar to midnight commander? |
| 06:36.34 | ktwilight | does that line work when you just execute it normally... |
| 06:36.35 | insmod | Big_Wolf: i love mc and mcedit |
| 06:36.41 | some_dude | yes |
| 06:37.22 | some_dude | I'm not sure if the daemon is runing, but it should be |
| 06:38.01 | ktwilight | check whether it's running should help |
| 06:38.20 | some_dude | I just started it, so I'm not sure if it was running |
| 06:38.30 | some_dude | I installed that line with crontab -e |
| 06:38.40 | some_dude | but i ran /etc/init.d/cron start |
| 06:38.51 | Big_Wolf | insmod: yeah, i like it also. i was just wondering if there might be something else that is an improvement over it |
| 06:39.27 | insmod | Big_Wolf: in what way -- it's a take on the old norton commander |
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| 06:39.41 | ktwilight | no idea some_dude. maybe read hte docs on cron, that may help |
| 06:39.55 | some_dude | i see it's running now |
| 06:40.16 | some_dude | i guess cron does not start on startup or something, I'll have to look into it |
| 06:40.42 | Big_Wolf | insmod: i'm not sure. i always used mc |
| 06:41.08 | Big_Wolf | i'm just curious as to what else is out there |
| 06:42.00 | insmod | Big_Wolf: gui ones like -- xffm xftree konqueror etc |
| 06:42.14 | insmod | Big_Wolf: mc is better |
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| 06:42.28 | Big_Wolf | i really like the 2 panel thing |
| 06:42.44 | Big_Wolf | and i'm so used to the interface by now |
| 06:42.49 | insmod | Big_Wolf: i wrote my dvd app as a term app like mc -- no real gui |
| 06:42.51 | streuner | Big_Wolf: gentoo |
| 06:43.09 | streuner | !info gentoo |
| 06:43.09 | Big_Wolf | so if there was something else, it would have to be exactly like mc |
| 06:43.12 | Big_Wolf | or i would hate it :/ |
| 06:43.17 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.55-1 (sid), Packaged size: 771 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
| 06:43.47 | Big_Wolf | i think i've tried gentoo a while back |
| 06:43.54 | Big_Wolf | but i didn't like it for some reason |
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| 06:45.25 | insmod | Big_Wolf: the only thing i would change is on the older versions when you moved to dir and quit -- you where still in that dir -- i loved that |
| 06:45.48 | Big_Wolf | i wouldn't know |
| 06:45.52 | Big_Wolf | since i never quit! |
| 06:45.56 | Big_Wolf | but |
| 06:46.01 | streuner | Big_Wolf: xnc |
| 06:46.01 | Big_Wolf | there are some things i would change |
| 06:46.14 | streuner | !info xnc |
| 06:46.19 | tuxcicles | what about krusader, excellent 2 panel fm |
| 06:46.20 | Big_Wolf | like if i'm typing in a command and i want to use bash's auto complete |
| 06:46.22 | dpkg | xnc: (X Northern Captain nc/mc-like filemanager for X), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.0.4-2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 1233 kB, Installed size: 3028 kB |
| 06:46.37 | Big_Wolf | you have to hit alt-tab instead of tab |
| 06:46.44 | Big_Wolf | but my WM intercepts alt-tab |
| 06:46.55 | Big_Wolf | ...not sure what to do about that |
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| 06:47.50 | Big_Wolf | streuner, tuxcicles: i'll check these out |
| 06:47.58 | insmod | Big_Wolf: change the key code |
| 06:47.58 | Big_Wolf | thank you for the suggestions |
| 06:48.09 | Big_Wolf | how do i do that? |
| 06:48.32 | insmod | Big_Wolf: not sure off hand but i know it's in /etc |
| 06:48.42 | Big_Wolf | ok |
| 06:50.01 | Big_Wolf | i have mc set so that one of the panels is arranged by date, and one is arranged by name |
| 06:50.06 | Big_Wolf | it's pretty handy |
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| 07:01.55 | coward | what do I need to plan *.shn files? |
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| 07:02.52 | clif4d | probably shorten which isn't in debian, but can be found elsewhere |
| 07:03.12 | coward | damn |
| 07:03.17 | coward | there are things debian does not support? |
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| 07:04.07 | clif4d | coward: might be because of some license issue, like mplayer |
| 07:04.22 | clif4d | coward: but you can get unofficiel packages if you ask google |
| 07:05.40 | tonsofpcs | can someone give me a link to a good through howto on backports? |
| 07:06.05 | ScareCrow | how do i display what version of debian im running? |
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| 07:06.08 | tonsofpcs | *thorough |
| 07:06.14 | tonsofpcs | ScareCrow: cat /proc/version |
| 07:06.20 | tonsofpcs | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 |
| 07:06.47 | ScareCrow | how do i get it to display just that im using Debian |
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| 07:07.03 | canioneri | Hi all! |
| 07:07.19 | tonsofpcs | ScareCrow: make a file that says you're using debian and cat it.... |
| 07:07.20 | clif4d | ScareCrow: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 07:07.56 | canioneri | I accidentaly deleted "dpkg/available" list |
| 07:08.13 | tonsofpcs | apt-get update? |
| 07:08.19 | canioneri | do you know a command/way to recreate all packages ? |
| 07:08.20 | tonsofpcs | or dpkg update? |
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| 07:08.34 | tonsofpcs | [just a guess] |
| 07:08.53 | canioneri | tonsofpcs, I deleted the list of packages installed |
| 07:09.12 | canioneri | I really don't want to reinstall all the system for that |
| 07:09.29 | canioneri | but I already spent a few hours looking :| |
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| 07:10.31 | canioneri | do you know if it's possible? |
| 07:12.03 | canioneri | no? :-( |
| 07:12.12 | tonsofpcs | i have no clue |
| 07:12.14 | tonsofpcs | never tried ;) |
| 07:12.34 | canioneri | yeah, neither did I :| |
| 07:12.36 | wols_ | there's an oldavailable file |
| 07:12.50 | wols_ | available-old |
| 07:13.02 | canioneri | searching |
| 07:13.11 | wols_ | same directory as the one you deleted |
| 07:13.30 | DaLeach | canioneri you deleted /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 07:14.08 | DaLeach | i have available-old to yeah |
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| 07:18.09 | row | Does anyone know how I can get postfix to log the size=<some number> line that qmgr gens? At the moment I don't have any qmgr related lines been logged by postfix |
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| 07:22.08 | raden | how can scan like 100 log files for like a birthday ? |
| 07:22.42 | nile | raden, is grep sufficient? |
| 07:22.43 | clif4d | raden: using grep |
| 07:22.56 | Meaw | guys before i upgrade the system the pppoe clients was login fine |
| 07:23.02 | Meaw | now im gettin this error |
| 07:23.03 | Meaw | Jul 2 10:18:15 deb pppd[1798]: Plugin /etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so is for pppd version 2.4.2b3, this is 2.4.4b1 |
| 07:23.07 | raden | never though of that |
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| 07:24.00 | clif4d | raden: you have "grep" for finding content, and "find" for finding files, both very powerful |
| 07:24.27 | raden | clif4d, thanks bro :) |
| 07:24.29 | raden | man grep :) |
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| 07:24.54 | nile | raden, right on ;) |
| 07:25.07 | harshal_P | what is meant by HIGHMEM kernel, i guess something related to high ram size? |
| 07:25.19 | harshal_P | i get a warning to use HIGHMEM kernel |
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| 07:26.13 | streuner | do you use an official kernel? |
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| 07:26.34 | harshal_P | streuner: yes |
| 07:26.43 | harshal_P | streuner: just installed the system |
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| 07:27.13 | Gathond | harshal_P: highmem is using more than 1 GB on x86 machines |
| 07:27.29 | Gathond | or actually more than 860 or some such |
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| 07:27.57 | harshal_P | Gathond: ya, i have more than 1GB |
| 07:28.06 | streuner | how much? |
| 07:28.17 | harshal_P | Gathod: it says the it will be using only 860 or something |
| 07:28.31 | harshal_P | Gathod: how do i make it use use all |
| 07:28.47 | harshal_P | Gathod: its 1.256 GB |
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| 07:29.08 | stew | harshal_P: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 07:29.28 | stew | !tell root____ about root |
| 07:29.37 | harshal_P | stew: 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 07:29.55 | stew | harshal_P: then you have a highmem kernel already, that kernel supports up to 4gb |
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| 07:30.17 | dayi | I have installed proftpd , I can access it from local but cant access with external ip address, I have opened the port 21 from router/firewall and try to bind my local ip adress , but it doesnt work, how can I solve it |
| 07:30.23 | harshal_P | stew: then why that error? |
| 07:30.28 | stew | harshal_P: you can verify it by running "grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r)" |
| 07:30.31 | harshal_P | stew: or rather warning |
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| 07:31.09 | stew | harshal_P: that should return a line "CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y" |
| 07:31.16 | harshal_P | stew:CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y |
| 07:31.19 | stew | harshal_P: i don't know. never seen that warning before |
| 07:31.22 | harshal_P | stew: yes it does |
| 07:31.39 | harshal_P | stew: but everytime i reboot, it says use HIGHMEM kernel |
| 07:32.12 | stew | harshal_P: then you are fine. you can also verify that "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is seeing more than 1 gb of ram, if you weren't using a highmem kenel it would not show all of your ram |
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| 07:33.04 | streuner | harsha: tell us the whole warning |
| 07:33.21 | harshal_P | streuner: while booting... it says like this.... |
| 07:33.33 | streuner | ok, look into /var/log/dmesg.log |
| 07:33.41 | JohnQ | My debian machine started exhibiting "lost interrupts" on two of my drives.. Anyone able to tell me what this means? and/or how to fix it? |
| 07:33.45 | harshal_P | streuner: use HIGMEM kernel, will be using only 860 MB |
| 07:34.31 | streuner | harshal_P: can you paste the whole /var/log/dmesg into paster bot? |
| 07:34.33 | streuner | !paste |
| 07:34.33 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Visit http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 07:35.30 | harshal_P | harshal_P: i also had problem with using LVM and bootloader |
| 07:37.29 | harshal_P | streuner: where to paste that file? sorry very new to IRC. |
| 07:38.00 | streuner | http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 07:38.57 | JohnQ | I'm getting "lost interrupt" messages on two of my hard drives. Can anyone help me diagnose this? Been at it for hours now. |
| 07:39.06 | harshal_P | streuner: pasted |
| 07:39.20 | streuner | harshal_P: we need the URL |
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| 07:41.05 | streuner | harshal_P: don't /msg me please. |
| 07:41.30 | streuner | harshal_P: keep the convo here in channel, just use 'Send' buttom NOT 'Upload' |
| 07:41.49 | harshal_P | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/8439 |
| 07:45.56 | Meaw | i got pppd version 2.4.4b1 after i did dist-upgrade .. now im getting some errors, how to get back the pppd version 2.4.3 ? |
| 07:46.30 | streuner | well, via dpkg -i <package>? |
| 07:46.48 | streuner | Meaw: what does BTS say about? |
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| 07:47.15 | Meaw | no apt-get dist-upgrade update my pppd version but i dont need it i wanna still using the old pppd |
| 07:47.25 | Meaw | BTS ? |
| 07:47.31 | streuner | !bts |
| 07:47.32 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 07:47.44 | JohnQ | Grr! GDM always starts up on the wrong vt when I reboot. Sooo irritating. |
| 07:47.47 | Meaw | oh |
| 07:47.49 | Meaw | just this |
| 07:47.51 | Meaw | Jul 2 10:41:27 deb pppd[5626]: Plugin /etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so is for pppd version 2.4.3, this is 2.4.4b1 |
| 07:48.46 | Meaw | 2.4.3 works with the rp-pppoe server fine and couldnt find rp-pppoe server works with the new version of pppd |
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| 07:49.16 | kronoz | is the weekly build of testing installable this week? |
| 07:53.04 | streuner | dpkg, no paste is <reply> Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 07:53.04 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
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| 07:53.53 | Meaw | so streuner what do u think |
| 07:53.54 | Meaw | ? |
| 07:54.21 | streuner | well, check out BTS or/and install the 2.4.3 version of pppd? |
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| 07:54.46 | Meaw | it was installed but upgraded in the dist-upgrade |
| 07:55.06 | streuner | so get the older package and install it? |
| 07:55.27 | Meaw | I did , but still getting the same error, like the new one is still there |
| 07:55.57 | streuner | so remove everything |
| 07:56.04 | Meaw | ok |
| 07:56.41 | Meaw | make clean remove it right? |
| 07:57.06 | JohnQ | where is the setting that tells gdm which vt to use on startup? |
| 07:57.23 | streuner | Meaw: man dpkg, man apt-get |
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| 08:07.08 | xnor | I have abit trouble with my apt-get it complains about GPG unknown error, if i run gpg --list-public-keys --home /etc/apt/ i have one key that have expired, how do i get a new one? |
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| 08:09.25 | wols_ | !tell xnor about 2006 key |
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| 08:09.55 | Alois | morning |
| 08:10.20 | Alois | anyone know of a working amd64 testing repository ? |
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| 08:12.58 | xnor | thanks wols_ but i think its my Gnuab Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) |
| 08:13.21 | xnor | 1024D/359AAB34 2005-07-02 [expired: 2006-01-01] Gnuab Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <ftpmaster@gnuab.org> |
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| 08:16.46 | nile | I have a ~/.bash_aliases on my laptop and a ~/.bash_aliases on my desktop. I'd like to keep them in sync. Is there a way to do something like "diff laptop:~/.bash_aliases desktop:~/.bash_aliases"? I know I could just scp one copy to the other computer, but that's kind of lame |
| 08:17.27 | wols_ | rsync? |
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| 08:18.40 | nile | since I tinker with both on an irregular basis, I'd rather not guess about it |
| 08:18.47 | nile | but I don't know *how* they are different |
| 08:18.54 | nile | er, that didn't make sense |
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| 08:19.21 | nile | rsync is how I figured out they were different, but I'd like to know *how* they actually differ |
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| 08:23.06 | tuv | nile, for sync'ing a file on two (or more) different machines, consider using unison. it also shows diff.s |
| 08:23.21 | Presently42 | I've got two partitions. With the first partition, I told the debian installer to put GRUB on the MBR. On the second partition, I told the debian installer again to put GRUB on the MBR, which I tried not to do. But, I couldn't figure out how not to. Any way, I want to get rid of the second GRUB and use the first one. How do I do this? |
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| 08:23.42 | tuv | nile, it's designed for files being modified in multiple machines and needed to be in-sync |
| 08:24.11 | nile | tuv, my main problem isn't really syncing files at all. it's using standard unix programs over a network |
| 08:24.14 | clif4d | Presently42: there is only 1 MBR on a harddrive, so there is also only 1 GRUB installed, though you might have overwritten it the second time you installed GRUB |
| 08:24.36 | tuv | nile, nfs? |
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| 08:25.18 | nile | tuv, yeah, I was just wondering if there was an easier way that I've missed |
| 08:25.54 | Presently42 | clif4d: Hmm. Never thought of it that way. Alright. How do I get GRUB to acknowledge the first partition's Debian system as primary (as oposed to what it is now)? |
| 08:27.00 | tuv | nile, i think you can play with ssh to get that effect, e.g. passing commands to ssh as arguemnts... not sure how though |
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| 08:27.07 | Presently42 | In other words, how do I install the files (/boot?) of the first partition to the MBR? |
| 08:27.29 | Presently42 | Sorry for the blue ink. |
| 08:28.01 | nile | tuv, I think plan9 would make it easy. maybe linux will get some good concepts from them |
| 08:28.06 | clif4d | Presently42: look in your /boot/grub/menu.lst on the partition which you install GRUB from, it should have a list of kernels (in which the kernel line should contain the root dir) |
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| 08:30.02 | clif4d | Presently42: when grub starts up, it reads that file and shows you the avaliable choices, so by editing that file you could add your other partition |
| 08:30.02 | ahmetcan | do I need to have seperate /home filesystem to set quota? |
| 08:30.47 | tuv | Presently42, you don't install files to the MBR, you install some sort of a pointer to /boot.. if you can boot then you're fine |
| 08:30.49 | clif4d | Presently42: you can even use a kernel from one partition, and a root dir from another partition if you're into that kinda stuff ;) |
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| 08:32.30 | Presently42 | clif4d: I neglected to add that I have the /boot of the first partition on a /boot partition as the first partition has XFS. Looking at the menu.lst of the /boot partition, all seems well. But, the /boot of the second partition's /boot directory is not so well. Should I cupoy every thing on the /boot partition to the second partition's /boot directory? |
| 08:32.41 | Presently42 | That's really convoluted: I appologise. |
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| 08:34.15 | clif4d | Presently42: erhm, not really sure what you want to do, but I figure you want the bootloader to show options to boot either kernel/partition? |
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| 08:34.48 | Presently42 | clif4d: Yes. My only problem is that I have three /boot. |
| 08:35.02 | Presently42 | Which one is the one being used at boot? |
| 08:35.35 | clif4d | Presently42: 3? I though you mounted one of the boot partitions on the XFS root |
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| 08:35.56 | wols_ | Presently42: depends how you installed grub |
| 08:36.18 | clif4d | wols_: he installed it in the MBR, but dunno from which system |
| 08:36.21 | Presently42 | clifd42: Yes, the /boot partition is one, the XFS partition for some reason has one and the JFS partitions (the second) has one. |
| 08:36.42 | clif4d | Presently42: and where did you install GRUB from? |
| 08:36.46 | wols_ | even installed in the mbr, the stage 1.5 files and above are on a partition |
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| 08:37.06 | wols_ | and which of those is uses depends on how he installed it, where grub looked for its files then |
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| 08:37.09 | Presently42 | clif42: the latest GRUB was installed from the JFS. |
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| 08:37.22 | novata_peleona__ | hi... |
| 08:37.24 | wols_ | copy the same menu.lst in all 3 places to make sure |
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| 08:37.49 | clif4d | so the JFS boot partition is where your changes will make a differece |
| 08:38.30 | clif4d | the other boot dirs are only used if you fx use chainloading, and then you have to install GRUB on each partition (not recommended) |
| 08:38.34 | Presently42 | clifd42: The JFS doesn't have a boot partition, just a boot directory. But, I agree. |
| 08:39.04 | clif4d | Presently42: yes ofcourse, I used the wrong word there ;) |
| 08:39.07 | novata_peleona__ | i am trying to connect a celuar motorola v360. When i connect it to usb, dmesg says this:sb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 |
| 08:39.07 | novata_peleona__ | usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices |
| 08:39.07 | novata_peleona__ | cdc_acm 2-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM devic. What src device i should try to connect. I tried on /dev/sda but it says it does not exists |
| 08:39.25 | novata_peleona__ | any help friends? |
| 08:39.45 | Presently42 | clifd42: Then I'll copy just the menu.lst to the JFS partition's /boot or the entire /boot partition's /boot? |
| 08:40.12 | wols_ | menu.lst |
| 08:40.19 | clif4d | Presently42: what's wrong with the current content of the jfs boot dir? |
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| 08:41.13 | clif4d | Presently42: and btw, your nick autocompletion seems to be broken ;) (me no clifd42 ;) |
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| 08:41.18 | Presently42 | clifd42: It isn't showing the XFS partition. |
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| 08:41.36 | wols_ | then edit your menu.lst appropriately |
| 08:41.40 | clif4d | Presently42: then you could just add that entry to the JFS boot dirs menu.lst |
| 08:41.46 | sonasks | hey, what do i have to change to make vncserver start gnome, now i can connect to a server by viewer, but i have only empty window of xserver |
| 08:41.48 | Presently42 | clif4d: Sorry, misread! ;) |
| 08:41.54 | sonasks | no windows manager available |
| 08:42.00 | zinosat | Hi, got a macbook and would like to install debian on it. I had problems with refit and I'm currently reinstalling osx. anyone has any experience with this? |
| 08:42.03 | sonasks | locally i can login to gnome no problem |
| 08:42.21 | clif4d | sonasks: man vncserver could probably help you |
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| 08:43.37 | Presently42 | clif4d: I did. I changed the order so that first item on the list was the XFS partition's entries and then the other os line and then the JFS partition's entires. I did an update grub and it returned the first item to the JFS stuff and left the other os lines as JFS, which I had done. |
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| 08:44.37 | Presently42 | clif4d: Effectively, I erased the XFS entires from that /boot. Wouldn't it just be easier to reinstall GRUB from the /boot partition to the MBR, if possible? |
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| 08:46.10 | clif4d | Presently42: update-grub is a debian thing that changes menu.lst, so you have to be careful to put the custom entries after the magic line |
| 08:46.36 | Presently42 | clifd: That's where I messed up. |
| 08:46.43 | clif4d | Presently42: update-grub is not like running lilo, you don't need to update anything to make grub see the new entries |
| 08:46.52 | Presently42 | But, it doesn't matter: It would have doene that when I updated the kernel. |
| 08:47.12 | clif4d | Presently42: yes, so again, you should put the custom entries after the magic line |
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| 08:47.51 | clif4d | Presently42: ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST is the magic line I'm talking about ;) |
| 08:48.13 | Presently42 | clif4d: An option, but I really don't want to. I want the opposite: I. E., what I had before I installed GRUB to the MBR from the JFS partition. |
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| 08:48.36 | Presently42 | clif4d: With XFS at the top and JFS after the magic line. |
| 08:48.45 | clif4d | Presently42: okay, then you put the XFS entry in the JFS menu.lst, boot the XFS system and reinstall GRUB from there |
| 08:49.02 | Presently42 | Ah. |
| 08:49.09 | clif4d | Presently42: or you could just add the XFS entry abovve the ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST |
| 08:49.36 | Presently42 | clif4d: I think we're getting somewhere. By reinstall, you mean a nice apt-get install -reinstall grub? |
| 08:50.05 | clif4d | Presently42: I don't remember the exact command, but I think a man grub should help you there |
| 08:51.08 | Presently42 | clif4d: Nice. I assume the /boot partition will be used in some way so I can still boot in to the XFS? |
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| 08:52.09 | clif4d | Presently42: a what? if the boot partition is mounted at /boot it would be used yes |
| 08:52.55 | Presently42 | clif4d: Alright. I'm going to reinstall GRUB and see what the menu.lsts turn in to. Thanks much. |
| 08:53.02 | clif4d | Presently42: you could install grub-doc and look at "info grub" under installation |
| 08:53.15 | clif4d | Presently42: or look closer at grub-install |
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| 08:55.18 | clif4d | Presently42: you should probably look into the "--root-directory" option from grub-install |
| 08:56.02 | Presently42 | clif4d: I'm going to try a few things. That will be one of them, if necessary. I noticed it too from your suggestion to man grub-install. |
| 08:58.08 | roxy_ | I deleted a file I installed using dpkg -i foo.deb . How can I reinstalled it ? (I tried to dpkg -i foo.deb but it doesn't do anything) |
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| 08:59.19 | clif4d | roxy_: man dpkg, IIRC there is a force install option |
| 08:59.26 | clif4d | roxy_: or reinstall |
| 08:59.45 | Presently42 | clif4d: Well, the regular reinstall didn't work, and I'm really tired. So, I'll just add some lines before the magic line in the JFS and try later. Thanks any way. I'll use your suggestions when I take it up again. |
| 09:00.20 | clif4d | Presently42: okay, good luck with it :) |
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| 09:02.03 | roxy_ | clif4d: thanks |
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| 09:05.10 | mzilikazi | is it possible to search pkgs available from a specific repo only? |
| 09:06.12 | enyc | mzilikazi: hrrm never really considered that.... |
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| 09:06.29 | enyc | mzilikazi: let me know what you find out ;-) |
| 09:07.25 | mzilikazi | hehe sure thing |
| 09:08.00 | apt2 | how can someone configure apt mirrors after base-config is gone, i can't find apt-setup anymore |
| 09:08.20 | enyc | apt2: add lines in sources.list manually then |
| 09:08.45 | apt2 | no way to choose from a list like apt-setup ? |
| 09:09.02 | enyc | apt2: no idea... i dont really use apt-setup anyway |
| 09:09.20 | nile | apt2, you could reinstall base-config? |
| 09:09.42 | apt2 | it's not there anymore, it will be removed |
| 09:09.53 | enyc | ???? |
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| 09:10.38 | apt2 | Reinstallation of base-config is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 09:12.09 | apt2 | someone said here http://www.lugod.org/mailinglists/archives/vox-tech/2006-02/msg00012.html |
| 09:12.10 | apt2 | base-config is the configuration questions that you would be asked |
| 09:12.11 | apt2 | after rebooting, prior to etch. It has been recently removed in favor |
| 09:12.11 | apt2 | of a more RedHat or Mandrake style installation of asking all of the |
| 09:12.11 | apt2 | installation questions before rebooting |
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| 09:13.24 | stew | apt2: base-config was removed from testing/unstable, /msg dpkg base-config ; /msg dpkg apt-setup |
| 09:13.42 | apt2 | ok |
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| 09:15.59 | roxy_ | I can see the /lib/..../foo.ko module. but when I modprobe foo it says module not found. |
| 09:16.21 | stew | roxy_: run 'depmod -a' and try again |
| 09:16.45 | roxy_ | stew: thanks |
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| 09:21.00 | mzilikazi | how to label a partition so that its label is shown in cfdisk for example? - di can do this somehow so it is possible |
| 09:22.20 | harshal_P | hi, i am looking for debian 3.0 r2 for downloading. i want this exact version. but not able to find in current or archievse |
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| 09:27.56 | stew | harshal_P: "woody" should be available from all mirrors |
| 09:28.37 | harshal_P | stew: not just woody, i want r2, there is some testing to be on that perticular release |
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| 09:33.02 | stew | harshal_P: i'm not sure if sdn has security.d.o snapshots, but if it does, you could use those to sync to the day r2 was released, /msg dpkg sdn |
| 09:33.11 | harshal_P | stew: found it. here http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian-cd/i386/ |
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| 09:33.51 | harshal_P | stew: :) |
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| 09:48.12 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:48.12 | dpkg | somebody said qotd91 was <tarmath> I've got 2 incredibly easy questions! Anyone can answer, and thus feel better that they could be of help to someone! |
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| 09:50.51 | nile | hello Ts0p |
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| 09:53.00 | Ts0p | i have abox that is running with xp on one hard disk, i would like to install another hardisk and install debian on that one. i would like to know is it possable after i am done i can connect the 2 hardisk and the computer will ask me which OS to run? |
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| 09:54.58 | nile | Ts0p, it's definitely possible! |
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| 09:55.41 | nile | Ts0p, the bootloader you'll install with debian can be configured to allow you to boot to your other operating systems |
| 09:56.34 | Ts0p | can u guide me where i can read about that , i tried debian.org but no luck or it could be me can search right ;) |
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| 09:57.59 | defcon8 | does the amd64 version of debian support x2's? |
| 09:58.02 | nile | Ts0p, when you install debian, it usually detects any other operating systems you have on the same hard drive |
| 09:58.16 | superlinux | hello |
| 09:58.18 | superlinux | !atd |
| 09:58.30 | superlinux | !atcron |
| 09:58.36 | superlinux | !anacron |
| 09:58.37 | dpkg | i heard anacron is a cron-like program that runs jobs that cron would have skipped if the system was shutdown. |
| 09:58.39 | nile | Ts0p, I would expect it to also automatically detect operating systems on other hard drives |
| 09:58.41 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 09:58.52 | defcon8 | anyone? |
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| 09:59.04 | Ts0p | nile yeah i don't want to risk it coz i have so much info on the other drive |
| 09:59.04 | nile | if it does, it'd automatically add those operating systems to the boot options |
| 09:59.26 | superlinux | defcon8, what is "x2's"? |
| 09:59.33 | defcon8 | amd x2 cpu's |
| 09:59.48 | superlinux | it can if you get SMP |
| 09:59.50 | defcon8 | AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 X2 Dual-Core |
| 10:00.14 | superlinux | it can if you get SMP version of kernel |
| 10:00.20 | defcon8 | okay |
| 10:00.25 | defcon8 | how do i? |
| 10:00.32 | superlinux | no no |
| 10:00.38 | superlinux | I think I am wrong |
| 10:00.47 | defcon8 | it isn't 2 cpu's |
| 10:00.50 | defcon8 | but i don't know |
| 10:01.05 | superlinux | I think it should work any way |
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| 10:01.19 | defcon8 | yes but if smp can be done, that'd be good |
| 10:01.34 | superlinux | on normal amd64 and even with SMP |
| 10:01.44 | Ts0p | nike what do u think? |
| 10:02.23 | Ts0p | should i just install it in one hard disk and when ever i want to use the other o/s i swap the harddisk |
| 10:02.25 | ScareCrow | :( |
| 10:02.38 | ScareCrow | 0 3,11,23 * * * php /home/skarecrow/www/dailywtf/getRSS.php |
| 10:02.47 | ScareCrow | someoen might know why that cron job didnt do anything at 3 am? |
| 10:02.59 | ScareCrow | should the minutes be set to * |
| 10:03.05 | blondie | no |
| 10:03.20 | blondie | did cron email you about it? |
| 10:03.22 | defcon8 | This chip works very well and extremely fast. It idles at about 26-27 C and gets no hotter than 45 C at 100% load with the stock heatsink and fan. It gets detected and set up as a proper 64-bit SMP chip by many distributions, and if the distribution is not SMP or 32-bit capable, it will run just fine on one core or in 32-bit mode or both. AMD's Cool and Quiet processor-speed scaling is implemented and controlled well by cpufreqd. |
| 10:03.25 | wols | apt-cache search kernel |grep smp |
| 10:03.27 | defcon8 | so it is smp |
| 10:03.47 | ScareCrow | blondie: no because the job has no output. it only emails u if there is output |
| 10:03.57 | superlinux | defcon8, now you are on some kernel.. you can download another and try it . the currently running one will still be there |
| 10:03.59 | nile | Ts0p, it's "nile" ;). you can do that, but I think Debian will detect your Windows installation and give you the option to boot it from the bootloader |
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| 10:04.20 | defcon8 | superlinux, well i'd think debian should have smp support in the install |
| 10:04.31 | dooglus | I know you don't support unstable here, but... :) |
| 10:04.40 | wols | I'd think debian should make coffee and give me bjs |
| 10:04.48 | wols | sadly, it doesn't |
| 10:04.48 | ScareCrow | see it says this: Any output of the command you run will be sent to you by email, if you wish to stop this then you should cause it to be redirected, as follows: |
| 10:05.17 | dooglus | ... in the last 3 hours my system has locked up dead 3 times - the mouse stopped moving, the clock froze, control-alt-f1 wouldn't switch to a virtual terminal, control-alt-backspace wouldn't quit X, nothing. |
| 10:05.41 | superlinux | defcon8, ok |
| 10:05.43 | wols | dooglus: sounds like hardware to me |
| 10:05.46 | dooglus | I tried booting back into the previous kernel, but the same happened there too (2.6.17 and 2.6.16 both freeze) |
| 10:06.06 | dooglus | wols: I'm wondering if it could be something like dbus or one of those packages I don't understand. |
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| 10:06.09 | wols | monitor heat, voltages. do a memtest |
| 10:06.19 | Ts0p | nile opps sorry i meant nile not nike |
| 10:06.21 | Ts0p | ;) |
| 10:06.36 | nile | no problems :D |
| 10:06.36 | wols | then stop those packages you don't understand, at least for troubleshooting purposes |
| 10:06.40 | dooglus | wols: it's an Intel P4, so it already runs hot - but usually when it overheats it just powers down. I'm not seeing that. |
| 10:06.58 | wols | there's more to heat than the CPU |
| 10:07.01 | dooglus | wols: I was wondering if anyone else had complained of the same problem |
| 10:07.25 | Ts0p | nile ok so i can boot from the cd and debian will tell me which drive i'll install debian ? |
| 10:08.03 | dooglus | wols: each time it locked up, I was doing a lot of "smbfs" traffic to a windows share, and each time, just before locking up, the windows share gave an IO error - I'm wondering if that could be relevant |
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| 10:08.13 | dooglus | (so this time I'm leaving the windows share unmounted) |
| 10:08.28 | rhalff | what is the place to set a global environment variable, /etc/profile isn't it, is it ? |
| 10:08.29 | nile | Ts0p, you should have a full backup of all your data before you try any debian installation, especially if you aren't familiar with the install process |
| 10:09.05 | ScareCrow | give me password to root and i can help |
| 10:09.07 | nile | Ts0p, I've gotten INCREDIBLY freaked out during my first few linux installs that I might have destroyed important data |
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| 10:09.53 | superlinux | I need a program/daemon like crond that runs batch scripts on times after a specified time and NOT /*ON*/ the specified time. what do you recommend? |
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| 10:10.13 | dooglus | superlinux anacron? |
| 10:10.20 | dooglus | superlinux: what exactly do you want it to do? |
| 10:10.39 | JohnQ | did they change the name of the kernel source packages? |
| 10:10.44 | superlinux | well I always tar.gz my $HOME |
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| 10:10.56 | dooglus | superlinux: like "run this script every ten minutes from next wednesday"? |
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| 10:11.12 | superlinux | well it's 3GB big |
| 10:11.16 | dooglus | superlinux: OK |
| 10:11.37 | dooglus | superlinux: use cron to start it running at the time you want to run it - what's the problem? |
| 10:11.43 | B1GfOot | hahahaha |
| 10:11.59 | superlinux | I need it to run on a time and if the that time passed I want it to run also |
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| 10:12.13 | JohnQ | the packages seem to be linux-source instead of kernel-source now... or am I mistaken? |
| 10:12.25 | shaibn | Hi :) I'm trying to use net installer 3.1r2 sarge on a new pc with Intel Desktop Board D945GNT but it both can't detect the onboard NIC (but i placed a PCI realtek card) nor does it detect any "partitionable media" which means it does not detect my two 160GB SATA2 drives connected onboard. what else can I do? |
| 10:12.29 | dooglus | superlinux: that's what anacron does. if your PC is switched off when the allotted time passed, anacron will run the job when you switch it on |
| 10:12.41 | superlinux | ok |
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| 10:12.54 | Ts0p | nile it's more than 160GB |
| 10:13.26 | dooglus | superlinux: it runs stuff as root. I wanted to run stuff as my own user, so I put this line at the end of /etc/anacrontab: |
| 10:13.29 | dooglus | 1 5 cron.daily.chris nice su - chris -c "run-parts --report ~chris/cron.daily" |
| 10:13.45 | dooglus | superlinux: that runs all the scripts in ~/cron.daily/ once a day |
| 10:13.51 | dooglus | superlinux: as me |
| 10:14.00 | superlinux | ok |
| 10:14.23 | superlinux | thanks very much! superlinux is at your service always! |
| 10:14.34 | superlinux | LOL! |
| 10:14.53 | Ts0p | ok anyone here know where i can get info regarding daul boot, between linux and windows with each running in a diffrent hard disk |
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| 10:15.16 | dooglus | superlinux: "the names must consist entirely of upper and lower case letters, digits, underscores, and hyphens |
| 10:15.19 | dooglus | " |
| 10:15.30 | dooglus | superlinux: that's the name of the scripts in ~/cron.daily, by the way |
| 10:16.10 | nile | Ts0p, google for "dual boot linux two hard drives" should give you some good results :) |
| 10:16.21 | Ts0p | ;) |
| 10:16.34 | ScareCrow | grrr |
| 10:17.11 | ScareCrow | my cron jobs aint working. i put...: 16 * * * * php /home/skarecrow/www/dailywtf/getRSS.php |
| 10:17.23 | ScareCrow | i can execute that command by hand and get what i want |
| 10:17.31 | ScareCrow | but at 3:16 AM it didnt execute |
| 10:17.39 | ScareCrow | just a little while ago it was working fine |
| 10:17.47 | blondie | that would execute 16 minutes after every hour |
| 10:17.54 | ScareCrow | yea |
| 10:17.59 | ScareCrow | at 3:16 |
| 10:18.04 | blondie | ? |
| 10:18.05 | ScareCrow | i didnt execute at that time |
| 10:18.13 | blondie | that was 8 hours ago |
| 10:18.15 | blondie | ;) |
| 10:18.22 | ScareCrow | not for me |
| 10:18.27 | ScareCrow | 03:18:48 |
| 10:18.32 | ScareCrow | that is my current time |
| 10:18.54 | JohnQ | I seem to be getting an error when trying to make menuconfig the 2.6.16 kernel : Makefile:440: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.16/arch/i686/Makefile: No such file or directory Anyone seen this before? |
| 10:19.23 | blondie | your clock is 20 seconds fast... |
| 10:19.31 | ScareCrow | it just turned 3:16 a few minutes ago. i set the cron job to execute 16 minutes after every hour / every day / month etc.. |
| 10:19.39 | nile | JohnQ, what's on line 440 of that file? |
| 10:19.50 | JohnQ | Makefile |
| 10:19.55 | JohnQ | oh |
| 10:19.58 | JohnQ | one sec |
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| 10:20.00 | ScareCrow | the last time this cron job should have executed was at 3:16 |
| 10:20.00 | B1GfOot | lol |
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| 10:20.14 | JohnQ | include $(srctree)/arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile |
| 10:20.44 | Meltir | hi ppl. any simple way someone can reccomend to me as to how to get a 4.x or a pre 5.0.19 version of mysql-server running on etch ? |
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| 10:21.10 | JohnQ | thanks nile: Got it :-) |
| 10:21.25 | row | Meltir: http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 10:21.26 | nile | JohnQ, er, how did you fix it? 0_0 |
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| 10:21.44 | JohnQ | I apparently has ARCH set in my environment... uh... err.. yeah |
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| 10:22.31 | nile | JohnQ, oh, okay then :) |
| 10:23.03 | blondie | ScareCrow: look in /var/log/syslog (as root) -- it shows cron jobs being run |
| 10:23.31 | Meltir | row: thank |
| 10:23.40 | Meltir | s/ank/anks |
| 10:24.48 | ScareCrow | Jul 2 10:24:01 warpedcoders /USR/SBIN/CRON[16717]: (skarecrow) CMD (php /home/skarecrow/www/dailywtf/getRSS.php) |
| 10:24.52 | ScareCrow | it didnt do it though |
| 10:25.19 | ScareCrow | maybe its my script? |
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| 10:25.27 | ScareCrow | cause i can do it if i copy that command and do it |
| 10:25.29 | ScareCrow | it works fine |
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| 10:26.11 | JohnQ | Any reason NOT to disable APIC on my machine if I think it might be related to some strange behavior I have been seeing? |
| 10:26.17 | blondie | ScareCrow: maybe the script is relying on something cron doesn't provide? |
| 10:26.39 | ScareCrow | blondie |
| 10:26.42 | ScareCrow | ima pm u |
| 10:26.53 | blondie | o.o |
| 10:27.06 | blondie | are you? |
| 10:27.29 | blondie | FErret! |
| 10:27.57 | Ferret | *wiggle* |
| 10:28.00 | blondie | :D |
| 10:28.51 | Ferret | ScareCrow: try giving the full path to php in the command ('which php' in a shell to check) |
| 10:29.06 | dooglus | ScareCrow: what if you "su - scarecrow" first in a terminal, and then paste the command? |
| 10:29.18 | ScareCrow | hld up |
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| 10:29.29 | dooglus | ScareCrow: that will clear out some environment variables and make it more like the environment the cron job runs in |
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| 10:30.54 | ScareCrow | idk where this command is located |
| 10:31.08 | blondie | ? |
| 10:31.26 | ScareCrow | i just type php and it works |
| 10:31.30 | ScareCrow | idk where it is located though |
| 10:31.41 | blondie | please explain what "idk" means |
| 10:31.46 | ScareCrow | i dont know |
| 10:31.55 | blondie | you don't know what it means? |
| 10:32.01 | ScareCrow | no |
| 10:32.03 | ScareCrow | thats what it stands for |
| 10:32.10 | blondie | right x.x |
| 10:32.14 | ScareCrow | idk == I Dont Know |
| 10:32.15 | nile | lol |
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| 10:32.26 | blondie | anyway, "which php" will tell you the full path to php |
| 10:32.34 | ScareCrow | thx |
| 10:32.38 | blondie | as the lovely Ferret said :P |
| 10:33.23 | ScareCrow | alright in t minus 20 seconds it should execute |
| 10:34.05 | ScareCrow | woot :) |
| 10:34.09 | ScareCrow | the full path to PHP worked :P |
| 10:34.19 | ScareCrow | thanks much |
| 10:34.48 | ScareCrow | * 11,23 * * * /usr/bin/php /home/skarecrow/www/dailywtf/getRSS.php |
| 10:34.59 | ScareCrow | so that should execute every day at 11am and 11pm |
| 10:35.17 | rhalff | where to put global environment variables in debian ? |
| 10:35.26 | rhalff | /etc/profile ? |
| 10:35.35 | nile | you can, yes |
| 10:35.43 | rhalff | nile, any other places ? :) |
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| 10:36.03 | nile | or you can add them to /etc/skel/.bash_profile so users you create will have them |
| 10:36.07 | Ferret | /etc/bash/bashrc or /etc/bashrc maybe |
| 10:36.21 | nile | rhalff, I don't manage a system with many users, so I don't know |
| 10:36.37 | Ferret | Maybe you have a /etc/environment too. |
| 10:36.39 | Gathond | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.47 | rhalff | well the environment variable is for an application, not really for one user. |
| 10:36.47 | blondie | Ferret: /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 10:37.01 | Gathond | rhalff: try /etc/environment |
| 10:37.11 | rhalff | ok /etc/environment it is :D thanks :) |
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| 10:40.50 | roxy_ | I want to install the pwc module. When I do modprobe pwc I get error like "disagree about version of symbol ... ". I have been told it is a kernel header problem, pwc being not compiled with same header as the kernel. I downloaded a vanilla kernel and built it and I could install the pwc module. Now I tries to install it on my debian 2.6.15 kernel. But get the error. What step should I do to install it ? |
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| 10:41.32 | christianp | hi all |
| 10:41.52 | roxy_ | I tried install from pwc-source package and from tar.gz source with same problem |
| 10:41.59 | dooglus | ScareCrow: according to "man 5 crontab", "PATH is set to "/usr/bin:/bin" |
| 10:42.07 | nile | hi christianp |
| 10:42.08 | Ferret | !module-assist |
| 10:42.16 | dooglus | ScareCrow: according to "man 5 crontab", "PATH is set to "/usr/bin:/bin"" - so using the full path shouldn't make any difference. |
| 10:42.24 | Ferret | !module-assistant |
| 10:42.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential, or for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 10:42.28 | wols | roxy_: if you compiled your own pwc module, the kernel headers on your machine are faulty |
| 10:42.33 | Ferret | That's the badger. |
| 10:42.48 | wols | or rather, the wrong version |
| 10:43.39 | roxy_ | wols: I only used aptitude for everything. How could I correct the situation ? I am using etch |
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| 10:44.00 | roxy_ | Ferret: thanks |
| 10:44.11 | christianp | my hd crashes, so i try to recover it with fsck. It made operations and now it says the fs is clean. If i mount it, df -h says 3Gb are occuped, but i find only a file (lost+found) of few Kb. How can i acces (if i can) to the data? |
| 10:45.03 | wols | by installing the correct kernel headers |
| 10:45.13 | roxy_ | Ferret: I already got module-assistant and kernel-headers |
| 10:45.19 | nile | christianp, where is it mounted? |
| 10:45.28 | wols | lost+found is not a file, it's a directory |
| 10:45.50 | Ferret | roxy_: That explains how you got that far, then. :P |
| 10:46.02 | wols | could be all the files you miss are in there. with nice names like 14234 and 35543 4334 etc |
| 10:46.18 | Ferret | roxy_: not sure what you need to do next... did you check dmesg to see exactly where the disagreement is? |
| 10:46.35 | nile | christianp, what's "du -hs lost+found" give? |
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| 10:46.44 | roxy_ | wols: can you see something wrong: http://rafb.net/paste/results/guL4Hh91.html |
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| 10:47.16 | shaibn | Hi :) I'm trying to use net installer 3.1r2 sarge on a new pc with Intel Desktop Board D945GNT but it both can't detect the onboard NIC (but i placed a PCI realtek card) nor does it detect any "partitionable media" which means it does not detect my two 160GB SATA2 drives connected onboard. what else can I do? |
| 10:47.28 | wols | look at the different versions, so yes there is something wrong. |
| 10:47.30 | roxy_ | Ferret: yes, lots of symbol version disagreement |
| 10:47.42 | wols | you don't need several kernel headers. you only need one |
| 10:48.05 | wols | the module(s) most probably compiled against 2.6.13 |
| 10:48.36 | wols | shaibn: use newer kernel on your install media |
| 10:48.40 | roxy_ | wols: I'll purge that one and do it again, thanks |
| 10:48.50 | wols | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 10:48.50 | dpkg | somebody said sarge 2.6.15 was http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 10:49.00 | wols | roxy_: purge them all then only install the 2.6.15 |
| 10:49.12 | shaibn | wols, but this is an ISO downloaded from debian ... http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 10:49.30 | wols | shaibn: and? |
| 10:49.50 | wols | does that make it holy or something? capable of supporting hardware which came out after its kernel came out? |
| 10:49.55 | shaibn | wols, and it doesn't have the 2.6.15 but the 2.6.8 kernel... |
| 10:50.10 | wols | that's your problem |
| 10:50.19 | wols | 2.6.8 doesn't have support for your hardware |
| 10:50.33 | shaibn | so how can i updated the kernel on the ISO ? |
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| 10:51.16 | wols | !tell shaibn about sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 10:54.29 | roxy_ | wols: I am having an issue removing the wrongs version kernel header: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Yq7IGm57.html |
| 10:55.04 | darsie | I get a gpg error from 'apt-get update' because there is an empty file: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_Release.gpg |
| 10:55.39 | roxy_ | !gpgv |
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| 10:57.09 | speedy | i have two NIC cards in my PC and everytime i boot they change eth0 and eth1 .. its not fixed |
| 10:58.26 | darsie | I'll file a bug report and try to disable security. |
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| 10:58.42 | speedy | how do i bind it to the device? |
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| 10:59.04 | chell | hello everyone |
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| 10:59.16 | darsie | chell: weird problem. dunno |
| 10:59.26 | roxy_ | darsie: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/06/msg00061.html |
| 10:59.27 | chell | weird problem? |
| 10:59.37 | chell | what are you talking about mate? |
| 10:59.58 | darsie | chell: oops, I mixed you up with speedy |
| 11:00.02 | cahoot | darsie: it's well known |
| 11:00.14 | darsie | ok, no bug report then. |
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| 11:01.56 | chell | Why are there more people here than on the new debian irc? |
| 11:02.06 | dooglus | speedy: you use /etc/iftab or something. put the MAC addresses of the cards in there |
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| 11:03.40 | dooglus | speedy: make /etc/iftab with lines like: eth0 mac 00:00:11:22:33:44 |
| 11:03.45 | dooglus | speedy: then it will always use the same interface names |
| 11:03.59 | nile | chell, inertia? |
| 11:04.38 | wols | then let the kernel headers and set the 2.6.15 kernelheaders first via envionment INCLUDE or even makefile editing |
| 11:04.43 | chell | might be |
| 11:05.08 | wols | speedy: load the NIC's drivers as modules. first one loaded will always be eth0 if they're 2 different ones |
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| 11:06.52 | wols | oftc is a much smaller network |
| 11:07.06 | wols | many people in here are in other channels on freenode as well |
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| 11:09.52 | cyzie | oppss sorry |
| 11:09.52 | Alam_Debian | ............... |
| 11:09.56 | cyzie | do i have to manually compile tora for oracle support? why cant apt-get install tora support oracle |
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| 11:14.17 | wols | because Oracle is under copyright of Oracle |
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| 11:21.10 | snd-ca0106 | hi i've kdm as login man but it displays only one of mine users how do i fix it to display all user in the list ? |
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| 11:22.04 | shaibn | thanks wols, i've just finished downloading it and I'll give it a go :) |
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| 11:33.41 | Ts0p | nile heay man everything went fine |
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| 11:34.26 | Ts0p | except that i can't install the all the pakages because i couldn't setup the network |
| 11:34.41 | Ts0p | and it's 4:30 am i go to sleep then try tomorow |
| 11:34.41 | fourat | !gateway |
| 11:34.41 | dpkg | i heard gateway is The computer or device onto which the first hop needs to go to get out of your network. As you know a TCP/IP route uses many hops to get from here to there. or the name of a computer company that is making a new amiga OS that nobody knows anything about. |
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| 11:34.57 | ThomasPorter | How do I install gd extentions? |
| 11:35.15 | fourat | anyone know a good tutorial to setup a debian gateway server ?. |
| 11:35.40 | Ts0p | i just htought to come back and thank you for taking the time to help me |
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| 11:38.04 | nile | Ts0p, glad it went good for you :) |
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| 11:40.15 | Ts0p | yeah i just want to figuer out how to setup the network |
| 11:40.21 | dayi | is postgresql package broken? "failed to initialize Date to MID" error is like that |
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| 11:41.09 | concept10 | anyone have knowledge of xen? |
| 11:41.15 | Ts0p | it's a pcmcia card netgear ma 401 i used it b4 in debian but that was on a lapy now it's on a desktop |
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| 11:41.22 | asg | dayi: if you are running unstable or testing, check the bts. |
| 11:41.32 | dayi | asg:stable |
| 11:41.39 | concept10 | i wondering if xen requires its own seperate partition seperate from root or could you have a xen image inside of root? |
| 11:42.05 | nile | Ts0p, wireless or ethernet? |
| 11:42.06 | asg | dayi: what does apt-cache policy <pkg> show for the installed version? |
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| 11:43.58 | dayi | asq:I cant paste it here, what kind of information are you looking for? |
| 11:44.30 | asg | dayi: the 'Installed: .*' line |
| 11:44.47 | dayi | 7.4.7.-6sarge2 |
| 11:44.53 | dayi | 7.4.7-6sarge2 |
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| 11:45.09 | asg | concept10: have you tried ##xen? |
| 11:45.29 | concept10 | asg, i did and got an answer |
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| 11:46.52 | asg | dayi: see if /usr/share/doc/postgresql/README.Debian* has any required post-install instructions you might have missed. Otherwise, I'd check with #postgresql. |
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| 11:49.37 | ma3x | why when I put 'fglrx' driver in my xorg.conf, it says no screens found |
| 11:49.39 | kdm_probleme | hi i've a problem with kdm : it displays user list and boxes for pwd etc but trying to log it stop and re-displays the login man; whereas if i use gdm as log man everything goes well ; how can i fix this ? thx |
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| 11:50.32 | asg | kdm_probleme: have you asked #debian-kde? |
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| 11:51.59 | kdm_probleme | now yes |
| 11:52.17 | dayi | asg:there is no post-install instruction , just explanation of use |
| 11:52.18 | kdm_probleme | i didn't knew of the existence of that channel before |
| 11:52.20 | ma3x | can anybody guide me 'how to enable 3d acceleration for my graphic card in xorg' ? |
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| 11:52.34 | kdm_probleme | u 've prop drivers ? ma3x> |
| 11:52.47 | asg | ma3x: /topic (the FAQ link) |
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| 11:53.19 | asg | dayi: then I'd start asking #postgresql. You could check the bts for the package to see if there is a known issue also |
| 11:53.48 | ma3x | kdm_probleme, I don't know, how can I find that out? |
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| 11:54.35 | kdm_probleme | if u didn't install that they're not in for sur |
| 11:54.38 | kdm_probleme | ;) |
| 11:54.39 | concept10 | is it possible to go from an ubuntu system to a sarge or even sid? |
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| 11:57.12 | ufk | hiya |
| 11:57.42 | ufk | i have debian testing branch installed. i have 2GB limit of files. how can i fix this? |
| 11:57.46 | ufk | using kernel 2.6.15-1 |
| 11:59.05 | dayi | asg:some bugs is like mine, but not really identical |
| 11:59.12 | wols | what filesystem on the drive with 2GB limit? |
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| 12:00.00 | wols | dayi: have you forwarded port 20 too? |
| 12:00.05 | Avance | hello, i have the base of debian installed without graphical interface, what do i need to use it (kde kdm x-window-system)? |
| 12:00.19 | wols | Avance: install kde and X |
| 12:00.33 | wols | use apt-get |
| 12:00.40 | Avance | wols, kdm not? i use aptitude ;) |
| 12:01.04 | Avance | wols, aptitude install kde kdm x, right? |
| 12:01.07 | ufk | ext3 filesystem |
| 12:01.16 | concept10 | I know its possible to dist-upgrade from ubuntu to sarge/et al but I know there will be breakage. is it safe to take this route? im only asking because i cant find my sarge discs |
| 12:01.17 | wols | never used aptitude |
| 12:01.34 | Avance | wols, i ask if the packages are the right ones |
| 12:01.37 | wols | no it's not safe at all |
| 12:01.45 | wols | and you can't "upgrade" from ubuntu to sarge. not possible |
| 12:01.58 | Avance | thats crazy ^^ |
| 12:02.07 | wols | Avance: those packages have descriptions. "x" is no package btw |
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| 12:02.35 | wols | you want x-window-system for x |
| 12:02.45 | wols | at least for sarge |
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| 12:02.49 | concept10 | someone ate my sarge discs and I have no blanks :( |
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| 12:03.35 | fourat_ | anyone know a good tutorial to setup a debian gateway server ?. |
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| 12:03.48 | wols | apt-get install ipmasq dnsmasq |
| 12:04.31 | wols | if a dhcp server is wanted you need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf |
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| 12:04.49 | concept10 | wols, how about woody to sarge, is it a simple dist-upgrade? |
| 12:04.55 | wols | yes |
| 12:05.08 | Avance | wols, no i only want to use kdm and kde with xorg |
| 12:05.15 | wols | but install woody with 2.4 kernel. less hassle |
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| 12:05.43 | wols | then the package is xorg Avance |
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| 12:06.14 | Avance | wols, ok so apt-get install kdm kde xorg, is that ok? |
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| 12:07.14 | wols | yes |
| 12:07.40 | concept10 | what do you guys use to shutdown your boxes (pwr off) shudown now -hP doesnt work on this box. it just halts |
| 12:07.40 | DerJamster | I'd use kdebase instead. Less bloat :> |
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| 12:07.55 | DerJamster | concept10: well..yes, it halts. That's what it's supposed to do |
| 12:08.10 | azeem | halts, as in the box is still powered on, I guess |
| 12:08.17 | concept10 | notice -hP |
| 12:08.18 | DerJamster | concept10: if you want the box to auto-poweroff, you need to use power management. enable it in the BIOS and check if the kernel has it |
| 12:08.24 | wols | talking about "less" bloat with kde in any way shape or form is funny :) |
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| 12:09.40 | concept10 | DerJamster, -h == halt, -P manpage says halt action is to turn power off |
| 12:09.47 | DerJamster | concept10: read what I wrote. |
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| 12:10.24 | concept10 | oh well |
| 12:10.36 | Avance | wols, are you using etch? |
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| 12:12.11 | wols | sid |
| 12:13.18 | concept10 | damn ubuntu server kernels are crapzilla |
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| 12:15.46 | roxy_ | having a file foo.ko, is there a way to know against which header it has been compiled ? |
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| 12:16.12 | kdmma | what file kdm checks after i hit LOGIN button ? |
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| 12:17.27 | nile | roxy_, I don't know what Iam talking about, but does strace help at all? |
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| 12:17.36 | estong_ | is postfix-script needed in a debian-sid install? it is not in /etc/postfix after apt-get install. |
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| 12:18.45 | ma3x | hello |
| 12:18.48 | ma3x | I can't launch X |
| 12:18.49 | ma3x | (EE) No devices detected. |
| 12:18.49 | ma3x | Fatal server error: |
| 12:18.51 | ma3x | no screens found |
| 12:18.53 | ma3x | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 12:18.55 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.16 | roxy_ | nile: thanks but no |
| 12:19.25 | azeem | ma3x: any other EE line? |
| 12:19.36 | nile | roxy_, maybe gdb? 0-) |
| 12:19.38 | nile | 0_0* |
| 12:19.47 | ma3x | azeem before the EE line I see this: |
| 12:19.47 | ma3x | (II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Information: autobuild-rel-r6-8.24.1-dr$(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device |
| 12:19.48 | ma3x | (EE) No devices detected. |
| 12:20.17 | ma3x | azeem: should I paste my xorg conf or log somewhere? |
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| 12:21.04 | estong_ | why is postfix-script missing after apt-get install postfix? |
| 12:21.04 | ma3x | ah damnit, since yesterday it says no screens found |
| 12:21.07 | ma3x | what's going on |
| 12:21.08 | estong_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.15 | ma3x | I've died on the computer, and can't resolve this damn problem |
| 12:21.21 | estong_ | where can i get the file? |
| 12:22.00 | ma3x | azeem : pal , can you help? |
| 12:22.03 | wols | estong_: why do you need it? |
| 12:22.19 | wols | where do you get this. what do you call? |
| 12:23.07 | estong_ | "/etc/init.d/postfix start |
| 12:23.51 | nailbiter | estong_: If you delete /etc/postfix/postfix-script, re-installing postfix probably won't help, because it's a configuration file and as such, dpkg will preserve the deletion. |
| 12:23.58 | ma3x | azeem X startx with the "ati" driver, but no acceleration! |
| 12:24.04 | ma3x | so I want the fglrx, but it says no screens found |
| 12:24.19 | nailbiter | estong_: You can move /etc/postfix/postfix-script.dpkg-dist into place instead, or extract a copy from the package itself |
| 12:24.37 | wols | estong_: what version of postscript? |
| 12:24.43 | estong_ | aaah ... ok |
| 12:24.46 | estong_ | sid |
| 12:25.00 | wols | cause my init.d script doesn't want/need postfix-script and unstable postfix doesn't have the file anymore |
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| 12:25.16 | wols | not what version of debian but what version of postfix |
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| 12:25.45 | ma3x | azeem https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2005-June/062413.html |
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| 12:26.01 | Bethy^^ | why is famd chewing up like 70% of my CPU and ramping my load average up to 6.5? |
| 12:27.07 | nailbiter | Bethy^^: You could attach strace to it to see what it's trying to do |
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| 12:27.23 | estong_ | wols: postfix_2.2.10-2_i386.deb |
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| 12:32.36 | estong_ | i am hitting a wall, can't find postfix-script nor postfix-script.dpkg-dist |
| 12:32.59 | estong_ | or maybe postfix in sid does not really need it. but how do i tell postfix not to look for it? |
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| 12:36.06 | Bethy^^ | so if i were to try and attach strace to my runaway famd, how would i accomplish that? i dunno jack about strace. |
| 12:36.35 | asg | Bethy^^: the manpage is a good place to start |
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| 12:38.53 | ma3x | is there a replace program for atitvout? |
| 12:39.15 | wols | estong_: it does need it since it is in a chroot |
| 12:39.44 | wols | try either the following: copy /etc/init.d/postfix or disable the chroot |
| 12:40.14 | estong_ | copy postfix to where? |
| 12:40.25 | wols | to your postfix-script of course |
| 12:40.32 | estong_ | :) |
| 12:40.50 | ma3x | how can I get my ati IGP340M to output to TV? |
| 12:41.06 | wols | ma3x: ever heard of google? |
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| 12:43.10 | estong_ | wols: copied it and issued postfix start |
| 12:43.18 | estong_ | i got this: /etc/init.d/postfix {start|stop|restart|reload|flush|check|abort|force-reload}. |
| 12:43.18 | estong_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.23 | wols | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3026 |
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| 12:43.49 | wols | take this. it's my postfix-script. then file a bugreport in BTS if there isn't one already |
| 12:44.16 | fourat_ | hello |
| 12:44.24 | ma3x | wols, I'm googling all day long , can't find anything that works! |
| 12:44.33 | fourat_ | i have my printer installed on a distant debian server (CUPSD) |
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| 12:44.50 | fourat_ | i would like to use it from any other computer in the lan using debian |
| 12:44.54 | fourat_ | anyone can help me ? |
| 12:45.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | Hi everyone |
| 12:45.21 | ThomasPorter | how would I add this crontab :S? 3,33 * * * * www-data [ -x /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -a -f /etc/awstats/awstats.conf -a -r /var/log/apache/access.log ] && /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=full-domain-name -update >/dev/null ... I tried crontab -l but it give me this error: nocrontab for root |
| 12:45.45 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, -e |
| 12:46.17 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, in the man page, it's written that -l means list |
| 12:46.23 | Ox0F0-0FF | and that -e mean edit |
| 12:46.26 | Ox0F0-0FF | and so.... |
| 12:46.37 | Ox0F0-0FF | you should read the man page for a tool you use |
| 12:46.49 | ThomasPorter | Yes nano |
| 12:47.08 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, no type man crontab |
| 12:47.11 | ThomasPorter | Could I simply paste that code into nano, save it and restart apache? Or does it require more? |
| 12:47.23 | Ox0F0-0FF | ? |
| 12:47.36 | Ox0F0-0FF | wow wait |
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| 12:47.45 | Ox0F0-0FF | there's 2 ways to use awstats |
| 12:47.45 | ThomasPorter | ? |
| 12:47.55 | Ox0F0-0FF | and you're messing up |
| 12:47.57 | fourat_ | anyone can help |
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| 12:48.01 | Ox0F0-0FF | you have the cgi way |
| 12:48.18 | Ox0F0-0FF | which i don't preconise since you can be victim of a DDOS |
| 12:48.23 | ThomasPorter | I followed a tutorial that was in spanish translated with babblefish |
| 12:48.32 | ThomasPorter | I'm not surprised I stuffed up. |
| 12:48.41 | Ox0F0-0FF | and the "I generate a static page every x hours throught cron" |
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| 12:48.54 | ThomasPorter | What other method is there? |
| 12:49.17 | Ox0F0-0FF | if you use the cron way, aapche will only serve a static html page |
| 12:49.31 | Ox0F0-0FF | this is when you need crontab -e |
| 12:49.46 | ThomasPorter | umm, I use it using the perl script |
| 12:49.46 | ThomasPorter | Porter> Could I simply paste that code into nano, save it and restart apache? Or does it require more? |
| 12:49.46 | ThomasPorter | <Ox0F0-0FF> ? |
| 12:49.46 | ThomasPorter | <Ox0F0-0FF> |
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| 12:49.47 | Ox0F0-0FF | now, you need to configure apache only if you use the cgi way |
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| 12:50.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | humm |
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| 12:50.11 | Ox0F0-0FF | wb |
| 12:50.13 | ThomasPorter | Sorry. |
| 12:50.14 | Ox0F0-0FF | now, you need to configure apache only if you use the cgi way |
| 12:50.18 | Ox0F0-0FF | np |
| 12:50.22 | blondie | ThomasPorter: you should be! |
| 12:50.33 | ThomasPorter | I pressed the wrong combination of keys. |
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| 12:50.59 | estong_ | wols: ty for the file but i get a lot of warnings and this: fatal: Postfix integrity check. |
| 12:51.01 | ThomasPorter | Wait, so what way doesn't use cron? |
| 12:51.02 | JohnQ | any idea why X would start up on vt7 at reboot even though I changed the gdm config to a different vt? |
| 12:51.03 | Ox0F0-0FF | blondie, he pasted to lines and there's almost no one here |
| 12:51.15 | estong_ | wanting now to downgrade to sarge 3.1. |
| 12:51.17 | estong_ | how do i do the downgrade without disturbing too much the live websites on my virtual private server? |
| 12:51.18 | blondie | Ox0F0-0FF: "to" lines? what are they? |
| 12:51.34 | asg | estong_: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 12:51.43 | james_null | hello everybody, what is the apt equivalent of this portage package please ? =x11-libs/gtk+-1 |
| 12:51.48 | Ox0F0-0FF | blondie, or you're a script answering or you're a stupid prick |
| 12:51.53 | asg | estong_: it probably won't work and you are better off installing from scratch |
| 12:52.01 | estong_ | :( |
| 12:52.08 | blondie | Ox0F0-0FF: how dare you be so rude |
| 12:52.15 | wols | estong_: you cannot downgrade |
| 12:52.28 | estong_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.29 | asg | wols: you can sometimes, it just isn't easy or supported. |
| 12:52.38 | james_null | i am trying to install swiftfxp, i can't stand gtfp no more |
| 12:52.40 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, you need to read some documentation |
| 12:52.44 | superlinux | james_null, did you do apt-cache pkgnames x11? |
| 12:52.47 | ThomasPorter | Ox0F0-0FF: Agreed. |
| 12:52.50 | wols | asg: compared to a downgrade, a reinstall is the better option imho |
| 12:52.51 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, and figure out how awstats works |
| 12:52.56 | asg | wols: I agree 100% |
| 12:53.01 | wols | debian makes it really easy to backup everything first |
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| 12:53.06 | estong_ | i have six websites in there. |
| 12:53.09 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, don't use the cgi way |
| 12:53.30 | estong_ | and some uses mysql. |
| 12:53.37 | james_null | superlinux: yes, i can't find anything related to gtk |
| 12:53.38 | ThomasPorter | What is the otherway? |
| 12:53.53 | wols | estong_: I don't see your point. backup |
| 12:54.02 | wols | you are already doing regular backups, right? |
| 12:54.10 | asg | ThomasPorter: generate static pages like Ox0F0-0FF already said |
| 12:54.20 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:54.25 | ThomasPorter | oh sorr |
| 12:54.26 | estong_ | it maybe too big. i don't have a fast connection. |
| 12:54.27 | ThomasPorter | *sorry |
| 12:54.38 | wols | estong_: the "easy way" would be to instal postfix from sarge. not downgrade everything |
| 12:54.43 | superlinux | james_null, did you do apt-cache pkgnames gtk? |
| 12:54.49 | estong_ | aaaaah! |
| 12:55.05 | superlinux | james_null, check related |
| 12:55.06 | estong_ | just have to point to stable right? |
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| 12:55.11 | wols | no |
| 12:55.12 | superlinux | there is as I think |
| 12:55.18 | Ox0F0-0FF | ThomasPorter, http://awstats.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html |
| 12:55.20 | james_null | superlinux: the list is hudge ... |
| 12:55.40 | estong_ | download the package and install manually? |
| 12:55.40 | superlinux | use as such apt-cache pkgnames gtk | less |
| 12:55.52 | superlinux | use the pipe character | |
| 12:55.53 | wols | force-install |
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| 12:56.19 | james_null | superlinux: i can't find anything x11 related :/ |
| 12:56.24 | superlinux | emm |
| 12:56.31 | james_null | how am i supposed to locate the correct dependencie |
| 12:56.33 | superlinux | lemme see |
| 12:57.26 | james_null | superlinux: this is the first error : /bin/sh: gtk-config: command not found |
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| 12:57.38 | superlinux | aha |
| 12:57.53 | superlinux | use this: dpkg -S gtk-config |
| 12:58.01 | estong_ | wols: apt-get install postfix/stable |
| 12:58.15 | superlinux | it should tell you in which pkg it's |
| 12:58.49 | james_null | superlinux: dpkg: *gtk-config* not found. |
| 12:59.02 | superlinux | apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev |
| 12:59.03 | superlinux | ok? |
| 12:59.06 | streuner | libgtk1.2-dev |
| 12:59.09 | superlinux | this is the pkg |
| 12:59.18 | superlinux | I have it as such |
| 12:59.20 | james_null | thank you :) |
| 12:59.23 | superlinux | in sarge |
| 12:59.37 | superlinux | most welcome. superlinux at your service |
| 13:00.05 | azeem | james_null: use apt-file to search for files belonging to packages you do not have installed |
| 13:00.30 | james_null | thank you azeem and superlinux :) |
| 13:00.34 | superlinux | most welcome. superlinux at your service |
| 13:00.46 | xored | i setted up my linux box as an router, everything works fine. My firewall worked fine now, i got clients which have access to the router himself and access to the internet, and some only to the internet. Now i setted up a DNS/DHCP server, and the clients which have no access to the box, cannot resolv names ( only if i allow them to access the box ) is there a port soloution for that ? |
| 13:00.59 | azeem | thank you superlinux |
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| 13:01.26 | superlinux | azeem, we should always you and I prove them we are good! ok?? |
| 13:01.26 | _Dhrizzt | xored: port 52 i guess |
| 13:01.31 | wols | 53 |
| 13:01.38 | xored | which one now ? :) |
| 13:01.48 | xored | iam using dhcp3-server / bind9 |
| 13:01.49 | _Dhrizzt | <-- was guessing |
| 13:01.50 | azeem | xored: check /etc/services |
| 13:01.54 | asg | xored: grep domain /etc/services |
| 13:01.54 | wols | xored: ick! |
| 13:01.59 | wols | use dnsmasq for your purpose |
| 13:03.46 | superlinux | xored, I advise you to switch to pppoe-server ok.. this DNS/DHCP solution is not great |
| 13:04.26 | wols | what is pppoe-server? and what has pppow to do with dhcp? |
| 13:04.31 | james_null | now it compiled with warnings, but make install doesn't work (install is not a target), there is a single ligne in README informing the email of the author, no activity on sf forum of the project |
| 13:04.31 | ThomasPorter | Porter> Could I simply paste that code into nano, save it and restart apache? Or does it require more? |
| 13:04.31 | ThomasPorter | <Ox0F0-0FF> ? |
| 13:04.31 | ThomasPorter | <Ox0F0-0FF> |
| 13:04.52 | xored | superlinux: i dont wnat to use the DNS server of my provider cause its crap. |
| 13:05.07 | xored | superlinux: DHCP is just needed and has nohing to do with ppp ? |
| 13:05.10 | superlinux | xored, so you use pdnsd |
| 13:05.12 | wols | but bind9 is equally crappy for a caching DNS |
| 13:05.14 | Ox0F0-0FF | What does this guy smoke ? |
| 13:05.20 | superlinux | it'll speed up his DNS |
| 13:05.31 | superlinux | cos you ll be caching them like squid |
| 13:05.42 | asg | Ox0F0-0FF: which one? You could be speaking about most of the channel. |
| 13:05.47 | superlinux | I am doing it on a wireless netwok in saida - Lebanon |
| 13:05.49 | Ox0F0-0FF | lol |
| 13:05.50 | xored | wols: why is it crap |
| 13:05.51 | xored | ? |
| 13:06.10 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.43 | superlinux | wols, I rarely see "resolving page" in status bar of mozilla using pdnsd |
| 13:06.55 | xored | it works perfect right now, and as its only for the intern, the security reasons are secondary |
| 13:06.58 | estong_ | virtual life is bearable with #debian, thanks wols, asg. |
| 13:07.09 | superlinux | I always see "waiting" or "transfering" |
| 13:07.38 | superlinux | xored, if you use pppoe they will login like dialup |
| 13:07.42 | xored | superlinux: thats the point, and with my provider, i see 7seconds "resolving" .. |
| 13:07.50 | wols | superlinux: please stop talking |
| 13:07.57 | ktwilight | which dns provider do you use xored? |
| 13:08.06 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:08.13 | xored | its a german one. dont think its handy in here ? |
| 13:08.40 | xored | our very own telekom and also my provider have huge DNS server problems, they are ugly slow. |
| 13:08.54 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:08.59 | xored | wols: so you would use dnsmasq ? |
| 13:09.14 | wols | yes. it's small, easy to use |
| 13:09.17 | ktwilight | right...that's quite bad |
| 13:09.36 | xored | wols: i will try it. do you have a tip for easy traffic shaping ? |
| 13:09.49 | wols | traffic shaping is never easy |
| 13:09.54 | asg | xored: lartc.org is your best resource |
| 13:09.58 | superlinux | xored, I advice you learn tcng |
| 13:10.00 | wols | and depends what you want to accomplish |
| 13:10.08 | xored | wols: best would be web-browser based gui. |
| 13:10.16 | superlinux | Ill give you an example .. |
| 13:10.37 | xored | wols: lets say i have 4 clients, i just want to shape the traffic for to on 20kb/ down or smth like that |
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| 13:11.05 | ktwilight | bandwith limiting? |
| 13:11.08 | superlinux | xored, do you want them share the bandwidth? |
| 13:11.16 | wols | lartc.org as asg said |
| 13:11.22 | wols | dunno of anything premade |
| 13:11.33 | superlinux | xored, I can help you I have great experiance |
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| 13:11.59 | apt2 | xored, http://www.metamorpher.de/fairnat/ |
| 13:12.09 | xored | superlinux: yes exactly. i just want to set like : this ip : maximum up / down rate |
| 13:12.20 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:12.35 | superlinux | let's go private I can give you a lesson on it |
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| 13:12.57 | ktwilight | :( |
| 13:13.04 | ktwilight | i want a lesson too :P |
| 13:13.15 | wols | ktwilight: are you really, really sure about it? |
| 13:13.26 | ktwilight | learning never stops... :) |
| 13:13.34 | xored | i qried you superlinux |
| 13:13.44 | wols | agreed, one can always learn more about comedy |
| 13:13.56 | wols | but it should be good comedy then |
| 13:14.05 | ktwilight | if it's 'bout bandwidth control, it can be a useful tool for me. :) |
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| 13:14.42 | wols | I'm sure, provided you could actually learn something from the lesson |
| 13:15.01 | ktwilight | true true. |
| 13:15.16 | roxy_ | wols: I still got the same problem with my module, and I am pretty sure I am using the same kernel headers now |
| 13:15.25 | ktwilight | so really, it doesn't matter if i learn now or later. :) but if there's an opportunity, why not? |
| 13:16.06 | wols | roxy_: radical solution: compile your own kernel, but with debian .config. Then immediately compile the module |
| 13:16.31 | JohnQ | can anyone help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/77016 |
| 13:16.35 | wols | ktwilight: cause you learning something with this particular opportunity is kinda doubtful imho ;) |
| 13:16.47 | roxy_ | wols: you mean downloading a vanilla kernel ? |
| 13:17.09 | wols | JohnQ: go shopping for a new harddisk |
| 13:17.20 | ktwilight | wols, sorry, don't understand, come again? |
| 13:17.37 | wols | roxy_: no I meant a debian kernel but building it yourself. since you obviously want a debian kernel. Didn't you get it to run with a vanilla one already? |
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| 13:17.44 | wols | ktwilight: nvermind |
| 13:17.47 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 13:17.54 | JohnQ | it's not the disk.. smart says it is fine, and the symptoms are happenig on more than one disk |
| 13:18.10 | asg | ktwilight: if you want to learn about traffic shaping and QoS, check the docs at lartc.org |
| 13:18.17 | wols | JohnQ: you can run smartmontools extended test, but the harddisk is pretty much dead, it just refuses to acknowledge it yet |
| 13:18.18 | freeone3000 | I'm using the Nvidia binary drivers (preformance) but I can't get glx even with "Load "glx"" (sans exterior quotes) in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and both module paths included. Any ideas |
| 13:18.24 | asg | JohnQ: are you using aggressive hdparm settings? |
| 13:18.29 | wols | JohnQ: then the controller? or cable? |
| 13:18.30 | ktwilight | thanks asg, i have noted that down ;) |
| 13:18.32 | asg | JohnQ: also, check your IDE cables / controllers |
| 13:19.04 | JohnQ | Swapped cables/controllers already to no effect |
| 13:19.07 | ktwilight | freeone3000, did you just upgrade? |
| 13:19.16 | Eclipser | o.O |
| 13:19.17 | JohnQ | asg: not "aggressive" no.. |
| 13:19.20 | Eclipser | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 13:19.25 | roxy_ | wols: yes. Is there a kernel-source package or something ? |
| 13:19.25 | Eclipser | ?? |
| 13:19.32 | dvs | Eclipser: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/06/msg00061.html |
| 13:19.33 | ktwilight | Eclipser, known issue, check the mailling list |
| 13:19.36 | freeone3000 | ktwilight: Er, I think the drivers got upgraded, yes, but I've been on xorg 7. |
| 13:19.40 | freeone3000 | ktwilight: Should I downgrade? |
| 13:19.47 | wols | roxy_: yes there is. several. every binary package in debian has a corresponding source one. your kernel too |
| 13:19.49 | ktwilight | hmm... |
| 13:19.52 | Eclipser | dvs, ktwilight, thanks |
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| 13:20.04 | ktwilight | freeone3000, it only happens in etch when ya go from xorg6.9 to 7 |
| 13:20.21 | ktwilight | there's no nvidia-glx or something. it's either using "nv", sid's or official's |
| 13:20.39 | ktwilight | i doubt there's any other solution for etch at the moment. i've been waiting, so...yea... |
| 13:20.41 | freeone3000 | I'm in Sid but am using the drivers from nvidia.com |
| 13:20.47 | ktwilight | that's weird |
| 13:21.00 | wols | JohnQ: what mainboard/cpu is it? Newer board sometimes get strange disk errors unless you run the kernel "noapic" |
| 13:21.01 | ktwilight | what's the actual error message? |
| 13:21.07 | freeone3000 | Er, no error message. |
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| 13:21.23 | freeone3000 | Just when I try to start glxgears, Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
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| 13:21.42 | my007ms | hello all |
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| 13:22.14 | ktwilight | i'm out the freeone3000 :/ |
| 13:22.19 | freeone3000 | Ah, nevermind, found it, couldn't load GLCore. That shouldn't even be there. -.- |
| 13:22.35 | freeone3000 | And... it's not. |
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| 13:22.39 | my007ms | where i can find website line rpmfind.net in rpm systems |
| 13:22.58 | my007ms | i need search software for debian Packages |
| 13:23.03 | wols | packages.debian.org |
| 13:23.13 | netcatc | help me, please |
| 13:23.13 | ktwilight | or just do apt-cache search <package> |
| 13:23.15 | wols | and you can already use apt-cache searc with your debian system |
| 13:23.23 | roxy_ | wols: I did aptitude install linux-source-2.6.15 and it got kernel2.6.15 and headers2.6.13 |
| 13:23.23 | wols | !help netcatc |
| 13:23.34 | netcatc | I need mirros amd64 good |
| 13:24.05 | ktwilight | netcatc, debian's site has a list of mirrors...have you checked there? |
| 13:24.27 | my007ms | thanks all thanks much |
| 13:24.29 | roxy_ | wols: so now I: untar the source, cp the config into it, make, make install ? |
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| 13:24.40 | opqdonut | is there some way to do updates in a non-diff way? |
| 13:24.44 | wols | !kp-mantra |
| 13:24.44 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 13:25.01 | opqdonut | this new system is unbelievably slow if the update interval is long |
| 13:25.14 | asg | opqdonut: run sarge |
| 13:25.17 | roxy_ | wols: thanks |
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| 13:25.44 | opqdonut | asg: why not woody while i'm at it? |
| 13:25.53 | wols | cause woody is not supported anymore |
| 13:26.13 | asg | opqdonut: because woody doesn't have security support as of Friday |
| 13:26.18 | netcatc | ktwilight, I need of mirros good , the my does not have openoffice |
| 13:26.34 | opqdonut | j/k |
| 13:26.36 | ktwilight | netcatc, then choose us' mirrors |
| 13:26.55 | opqdonut | so there is no alternative update method? |
| 13:27.02 | opqdonut | in >=etch |
| 13:27.15 | netcatc | ktwilight, do you have anyone for me? |
| 13:27.16 | asg | opqdonut: doesn't look that way, no. |
| 13:27.31 | ktwilight | netcatc, i use europe's mirrors, sorry. |
| 13:27.32 | opqdonut | hmh |
| 13:27.48 | my007ms | how can i know my debian version |
| 13:28.09 | asg | my007ms: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:28.11 | netcatc | ktwilight, no problem |
| 13:28.49 | netcatc | ktwilight, anything for me is good |
| 13:28.52 | my007ms | oops this server i use is so old it's 3.0 |
| 13:29.02 | asg | my007ms: /msg dpkg woody -> sarge |
| 13:29.15 | ktwilight | netcatc, may try using netselect, it can help you choose which mirror to you, if i'm not wrong. |
| 13:29.31 | my007ms | when i try apt-cache search <name> i get nothing but i see in website many |
| 13:29.38 | asg | my007ms: or /msg dpkg woody->sarge (rather) |
| 13:30.19 | freeone3000 | my007ms: Check your regex and distro then. packages.debian.org gives you things from all releases. You only get things from your release with apt-cache search |
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| 13:32.35 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 13:32.43 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 13:34.34 | my007ms | how can i search in the website for just my debian 3.0 |
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| 13:38.35 | fwtest | where can i find dnet.h? |
| 13:40.29 | jelly-home | !tell fwtest -about search |
| 13:40.51 | my007ms | fwtest, find / -name dnet.h |
| 13:41.08 | fwtest | jelly-home, i mean, in which packet i can find dnet.h |
| 13:41.35 | kjoonlee | fwtest: dpkg -s, dpkg -S. tell dpkg the full path. One of them should work. |
| 13:41.54 | kjoonlee | fwtest: (Assuming you meant package) |
| 13:42.00 | fwtest | kjoonlee, also if the package has not been installed yet? |
| 13:42.15 | jelly-home | fwtest: follow the apt-file instructions or /msg dpkg find filename |
| 13:42.15 | kjoonlee | fwtest: Search at http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 13:44.36 | my007ms | how can u use dpkg to find the dpkg in try /msg dpkg help not great info to lean |
| 13:45.04 | jelly-home | my007ms: to find what? |
| 13:45.21 | my007ms | i need search for nagios in debian 3.0 |
| 13:46.24 | jelly-home | !tell my007ms -about search |
| 13:46.27 | jelly-home | ;-) |
| 13:46.42 | my007ms | :D |
| 13:46.54 | my007ms | very nice pot |
| 13:47.07 | jelly-home | my007ms: I believe apt-cache search nagios will return something. |
| 13:47.30 | my007ms | no it not |
| 13:48.01 | my007ms | i think i have to edit something sure i have to edit some file like this on in yum |
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| 13:49.38 | jelly-home | my007ms: /msg dpkg sources.list, check that you have something like that "woody" reference. |
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| 13:50.24 | my007ms | !tell my007ms -about sources.list |
| 13:50.33 | my007ms | lol it's not work |
| 13:50.49 | my007ms | !tell my007ms -about sources.list |
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| 13:51.07 | jelly-home | did you registed your nick? |
| 13:52.00 | my007ms | not it's ok now and give me telling yourself: ;) |
| 13:52.17 | my007ms | nice very "who make this one" |
| 13:52.56 | jelly-home | my007ms: I have trouble understanding your English. |
| 13:53.25 | my007ms | who make this nice rebot dpkg |
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| 13:55.15 | Ox0F0-0FF | O_o |
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| 13:55.32 | my007ms | jelly, dondelelcaro owns me |
| 13:55.39 | Ox0F0-0FF | my007ms, take your time spelling proper english |
| 13:55.49 | dimir | !nickometer Ox0F0-0FF |
| 13:55.51 | dpkg | 'Ox0F0-0FF' is 99.390% lame, dimir |
| 13:55.52 | dimir | \o/ |
| 13:56.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | Oh yeah |
| 13:56.27 | Ox0F0-0FF | that's just 0x0f0 to 0x0ff to range of ports to address an fpu |
| 13:56.35 | dimir | :-) |
| 13:56.42 | Ox0F0-0FF | there's more lame.... the nickometer for example |
| 13:56.44 | Ox0F0-0FF | :P |
| 13:56.50 | dimir | :-P |
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| 13:57.20 | my007ms | be carefull Ox0F0-0FF maybe i use iptabels with u |
| 13:57.48 | Ox0F0-0FF | my007ms, I'm so scared.... what;s next step ? you'll bring up nmap ? |
| 13:57.53 | Ox0F0-0FF | :P |
| 13:58.04 | my007ms | :) |
| 13:58.36 | dimir | and then! (OMG!) ping!!!!!!!!1 |
| 13:58.42 | Ox0F0-0FF | heh |
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| 13:59.45 | jelly-home | It's Sunday, innit? |
| 13:59.51 | abrotman | very much so |
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| 14:00.17 | my007ms | Ox0F0-0FF |xarg hping |
| 14:00.34 | Ox0F0-0FF | damn |
| 14:00.38 | Ox0F0-0FF | I'm so impressed |
| 14:00.58 | Ox0F0-0FF | I didn't expected you'd know such thing as xarg |
| 14:01.01 | abrotman | except he misspelled the command |
| 14:01.27 | Ox0F0-0FF | Guys.... seems we've got an hacker here |
| 14:01.32 | my007ms | :D i am good in rpm system good more than u can even think i can be lol |
| 14:01.42 | abrotman | !tell my007ms about u |
| 14:01.56 | my007ms | and no have big problem can not install dam nagios in this dam debian system |
| 14:01.58 | wols | abrotman: you forgot telling him about loling |
| 14:02.02 | my007ms | :D |
| 14:02.42 | wols | you do know that your woody is unsupported now? so why not upgrade? |
| 14:03.13 | my007ms | it's not mine box |
| 14:03.17 | wols | as a bonus, sarge comes with nagios |
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| 14:04.42 | Ox0F0-0FF | my007ms, no offense... rpm sucks |
| 14:04.56 | dimir | hehe, ye. |
| 14:05.01 | dimir | I'd say RH sucks. |
| 14:05.02 | my007ms | almost every software in rpm |
| 14:05.20 | my007ms | not like this dpkg that i start see nono-free lol |
| 14:05.24 | abrotman | anyone try a `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1` ? |
| 14:05.44 | dimir | abrotman: 2.3.6-13 (testing) |
| 14:05.45 | abrotman | yeah .. but there is absoltely no non-free RPM software |
| 14:06.03 | Ox0F0-0FF | ii libc6 2.3.6-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 14:06.04 | my007ms | i don's see this |
| 14:06.07 | dimir | my007ms: apt-get instal vrms |
| 14:06.09 | my007ms | tell me like what |
| 14:06.25 | my007ms | dimir, :) what is vrms |
| 14:06.35 | dimir | my007ms: apt-cache show vrms |
| 14:06.49 | Ox0F0-0FF | Makes me think about this dist-upgrade i got to do |
| 14:08.19 | jelly-home | dimir: does it have a virtual beard and a virtually girlish voice? |
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| 14:08.47 | asg | jelly-home: it does if you pipe the output to festival |
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| 14:10.14 | dimir | $ vrms |
| 14:10.15 | dimir | No non-free packages installed on student! rms would be proud. |
| 14:10.17 | dimir | \o/ |
| 14:12.27 | my007ms | now man i need install nagios when i try apt-get install nagios |
| 14:12.36 | my007ms | E: Couldn't find package nagios |
| 14:12.45 | asg | my007ms: on woody, nagios is called netsaint |
| 14:12.49 | abrotman | !tell my007ms about grounding |
| 14:12.54 | abrotman | !tell my007ms about refcard |
| 14:13.07 | asg | my007ms: woody predates the netsaint -> nagios renaming |
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| 14:13.14 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 14:13.28 | mcgreg | is it useful to install 2.6.17 or does it have even more bugs? :) |
| 14:13.37 | dimir | it's useful |
| 14:13.47 | abrotman | probably depends on what problems you're having now and what it fixes |
| 14:13.56 | dimir | It has some nice improvements. |
| 14:14.05 | wols | look in the changelog and see if soemthing is in there which helps you |
| 14:14.11 | Avance | wols, i have installed all packages, after /etc/init.d/kdm restart, my computer doesn't want to start it, no error msg :/ |
| 14:14.12 | my007ms | E: Package netsaint has no installation candidate |
| 14:14.31 | wols | Avance: are you out of X? |
| 14:14.39 | mcgreg | actually I dont have any real problems. 2.6.15 works quite okayish here |
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| 14:14.43 | fwtest | following situation, at server, there is a program, which is listening on port 1500, the server allows only local connection to this port, but allowing ssh connection from outside, my question, how can i access to this programm (port 1500) from outside using ssh? there must be something to do with tunneling, but i dont know how |
| 14:14.47 | wols | Avance: and errormessages should by in syslog or the X error log |
| 14:15.00 | asg | my007ms: it's in the non-US archive |
| 14:15.28 | Avance | wols, yep i am, i stopped kdm and tried to restart it, but it didnt work, mom i will look for the syslog, is it in /var/syslog? |
| 14:15.34 | my007ms | asg, which mean |
| 14:15.54 | asg | my007ms: you need non-US sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:16.00 | wols | syslog is iffy, probably more likely in the X log |
| 14:16.01 | jelly-home | fwtest: desktop$ ssh -L some-local-port:localhost:1500 server; desktop$ telnet localhost some-local-port |
| 14:16.43 | my007ms | asg, can u give me link u need me to past in this file pleas |
| 14:16.45 | asg | my007ms: deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main |
| 14:16.54 | asg | my007ms: put that in /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get update |
| 14:17.35 | abrotman | !tell my007ms about u |
| 14:17.55 | fwtest | very nice |
| 14:17.57 | fwtest | thanks |
| 14:18.04 | asg | abrotman: you could always eat pie 'n pleas |
| 14:18.08 | my007ms | why debian system is that related to US |
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| 14:18.21 | asg | my007ms: it predates the removal of US export laws on crypto |
| 14:18.28 | abrotman | what is your native language, because your english sucks |
| 14:19.54 | my007ms | now i use apt-get install netsaint |
| 14:19.55 | asg | abrotman: whois 217.139.224.194 |
| 14:19.59 | asg | my007ms: yes |
| 14:20.04 | my007ms | it's work i think :) |
| 14:20.18 | wols | but the continent is showing at least |
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| 14:21.00 | pippijn | Hi all |
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| 14:21.12 | pippijn | what is needed to build a toolchain? |
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| 14:21.57 | azeem | pippijn: knowledge |
| 14:22.25 | azeem | pippijn: generally, if you need to ask this sort of broad question, you should do some serious reading |
| 14:22.35 | Avance | wols, syslog says: IOError in XopenDisplay; Display: 0 cannot be opened |
| 14:22.50 | pippijn | okay |
| 14:22.55 | pippijn | :) |
| 14:22.58 | abrotman | or did he mean to install build-essential ? |
| 14:23.02 | pippijn | no |
| 14:23.04 | jelly-home | pippijn: you mean like for crosscompiling? http://www.kegel.com/crosstool/ |
| 14:23.04 | wols | Avance: are you still running X? are you root when starting kdm? |
| 14:23.17 | pippijn | jelly-home: thanks |
| 14:23.23 | Avance | wols, no kdm is stopped and im am root |
| 14:23.36 | wols | Avance: I didn't ask if kdm is stopped. is X stopped? |
| 14:23.40 | jelly-home | pippijn: that's what I used to compile a sparc64 kernel on intel. |
| 14:23.58 | pippijn | I want to compile rtems |
| 14:24.05 | pippijn | for intel on intel |
| 14:24.15 | Avance | wols, ok i dont know? how do i stop that? |
| 14:24.41 | abrotman | pippijn: so you just want a tool chain .. you don't have to build one? |
| 14:24.49 | wols | are you running X on any virtual terminal? |
| 14:25.11 | pippijn | abrotman: yes |
| 14:25.11 | Avance | wols, no all tty are character guis |
| 14:25.13 | jelly-home | !rtems |
| 14:25.14 | dpkg | rtems is probably the Real Time Executive for Multiprocessor Systems. http://www.oarcorp.com/ |
| 14:25.20 | pippijn | no |
| 14:25.25 | pippijn | jelly-home: rtems.com |
| 14:25.34 | abrotman | !b-e pippijn |
| 14:25.34 | dpkg | pippijn: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 14:25.36 | wols | Avance: try to start it then |
| 14:25.37 | pippijn | RTEMS is the Real-Time Operating System for Multiprocessor Systems. |
| 14:25.45 | my007ms | thanks much asg |
| 14:25.46 | pippijn | abrotman: I have that |
| 14:25.46 | wols | Avance: startx |
| 14:26.16 | abrotman | pippijn: so why doesn't it build? |
| 14:26.48 | raf256` | is Debian legal? |
| 14:26.57 | jelly-home | raf256`: ?? |
| 14:27.00 | asg | raf256`: it's only 11 years old so probably not |
| 14:27.05 | raf256` | I thought communism is illegal in all the world (that is, in USA) |
| 14:27.13 | asg | raf256`: don't be stupid |
| 14:27.20 | wols | raf256`: don't troll again |
| 14:27.31 | raf256` | asg: but we are ripping the Microsoft hard working citizens of USA |
| 14:27.38 | groleo | loooool |
| 14:27.44 | raf256` | and cheating USA tax office |
| 14:27.53 | groleo | kindergarden excapee ? |
| 14:27.56 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.59 | jelly-home | oops |
| 14:28.01 | raf256` | uh oh :P |
| 14:28.03 | wols | groleo: it's sunday |
| 14:28.06 | raf256` | chill out |
| 14:28.09 | asg | wols: that's no excuse |
| 14:28.12 | azeem | raf256`: please stay on topic |
| 14:28.24 | raf256` | azeem: well my question was regarding debian :P |
| 14:28.34 | azeem | raf256`: it's off topic, this is a support channel |
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| 14:28.42 | raf256` | ah ok |
| 14:28.47 | raf256` | HOW TO make my debian legall? |
| 14:28.51 | groleo | raf256`: you should read GPL2, then. |
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| 14:29.04 | azeem | raf256`: you've been silenced for 10 minutes (I guess) for being off topic |
| 14:29.06 | wols | took you long enough |
| 14:29.12 | abrotman | !prize azeem |
| 14:29.30 | sid | azeem: What does the % in the hostmask of the ban do? |
| 14:29.47 | pippijn | abrotman: I have no makeinfo |
| 14:30.02 | abrotman | sid: i believe the FN FAQ covers that |
| 14:30.10 | abrotman | pippijn: you have no ..what? |
| 14:30.46 | my007ms | asg, i get error /var/lib/dpkg/info/netsaint.postinst: htpasswd: command not found |
| 14:30.48 | pippijn | so far it did not give fatals |
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| 14:32.02 | asg | my007ms: install apache-common |
| 14:32.29 | jelly-home | pippijn: fwiw, makeinfo is in "texinfo" here in testing. |
| 14:32.37 | pippijn | ah |
| 14:32.41 | my007ms | whe i search for nagios i find it |
| 14:32.44 | pippijn | :) |
| 14:32.46 | my007ms | nagios-txt |
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| 14:34.17 | nekromaan | wols, its me Avance, startx doesnt work-> fatal server error caught signal 8 server aborting |
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| 14:36.16 | wols | then fix that. dpkg-reconfigure is your friend |
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| 14:36.48 | nekromaan | dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg wols? |
| 14:37.04 | wols | !tell nekromaan about grounding |
| 14:37.12 | abrotman | !drxx nekromaan |
| 14:37.12 | dpkg | nekromaan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 14:40.11 | nekromaan | wols, dpkg-reconfigure didnt work after configuration :/ |
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| 14:41.56 | asg | nekromaan: have you hand edited your X config at all? If so, /msg dpkg xmd5 |
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| 14:43.21 | nekromaan | asg, do you mean if i edited my xorg manually? |
| 14:43.37 | stew | asg: there is an xorgmd5 as well now |
| 14:43.43 | azeem | hrm |
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| 14:44.10 | asg | stew: cool. For some reason, I read that as xorgasm |
| 14:44.14 | nekromaan | stew, what is a xorgmd5? :/ |
| 14:44.14 | ktwilight | what's the best way to install j2re on etch? |
| 14:44.18 | stew | !xorgmd5 |
| 14:44.18 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | diff -sq /var/lib/x11/xorg.confg.md5sum -" - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've mad |
| 14:44.33 | asg | ktwilight: use java-package |
| 14:44.34 | wols | !java-package |
| 14:44.34 | dpkg | well, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 14:44.45 | stew | asg: uhh, glad i could help you with that |
| 14:44.56 | ktwilight | sweet, thanks :) |
| 14:46.13 | nekromaan | stew, i do not have a /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum |
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| 14:46.52 | stew | nekromaan: are you running xorg or xfree? |
| 14:47.11 | abrotman | bah .. i thought they got rid of the damn md5 silliness |
| 14:47.23 | stew | nope |
| 14:47.23 | nekromaan | stew, xorg version 1:7.0.22 |
| 14:48.12 | stew | nekromaan: its odd that you don't have one then. you should probably follow the instructions to create one |
| 14:48.53 | abrotman | it's always sunday in poland |
| 14:49.03 | raf256 | yeah, pollocks are stupid |
| 14:49.08 | raf256 | well at least - have stupid goverment |
| 14:49.10 | asg | except for Kevin |
| 14:49.18 | stew | nekromaan: do you have an X.md5sum in there? |
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| 14:51.21 | nekromaan | stew, i installed the etch beta installer 2 and the packages kdm kde and xorg, thats it, now xorg doesnt work :/; i did the point of fixing the md5 in the /var directory, but after dpkg-reconfigure it doesnt work either :( |
| 14:51.52 | nekromaan | stew, do you mean in /var/lib/x11/...? |
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| 14:52.01 | stew | nekromaan: yes |
| 14:52.03 | stew | nekromaan: be more specific than "doesn't work" |
| 14:52.17 | sid | nekromaan: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 14:52.41 | stew | sid: in testing/unstable its replaced by the "xorg" package |
| 14:53.03 | sid | nekromaan: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE |
| 14:53.07 | sid | nekromaan: put that on a paste website |
| 14:53.10 | sid | !tell nekromaan about paste |
| 14:53.25 | nekromaan | i have installed debian 2 time today, once with xorg and once with x-window-system, but it doesnt work |
| 14:53.43 | nekromaan | sid, i know what paste is, but i do not know how in the terminal :/ .. i cant use gpm :/ |
| 14:53.52 | stew | nekromaan: isntalling with xorg or x-window-system or x-window-system-core all do the exact same thing |
| 14:54.01 | nekromaan | stewm ok :/ |
| 14:54.12 | stew | nekromaan: http://pastbin.ca/upload.php and upload the entire log file |
| 14:54.26 | stew | nekromaan: you might as well upload your xorg.conf as well |
| 14:54.34 | nekromaan | how? |
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| 14:54.50 | stew | nekromaan: use w3m or lynx or links2 or elinks... |
| 14:55.14 | nekromaan | stew thats no problem but how do i put it from the file to the paste homepage? |
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| 14:55.46 | stew | nekromaan: go to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php and hit the browse button |
| 14:55.54 | stew | then hit the upload button |
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| 14:56.58 | nekromaan | stew, which console irc programme do you prefer? cause i do not none.. im using a second pc now |
| 14:57.10 | mcgreg | hmm since 2.6.17 the debin akernel doesnt have "asfs"-kernel modules anymore (filesystem), doesn anybody know the reason? |
| 14:57.11 | asg | nekromaan: irssi-text |
| 14:57.11 | stew | nekromaan: irssi |
| 14:57.24 | nekromaan | ok and how do i connect to this channel with irssi? |
| 14:57.35 | asg | nekromaan: /server irc.freenode.net ; /join #debian |
| 14:57.56 | nekromaan | ok thx |
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| 14:58.28 | Illusia | Wow what a pack ? |
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| 14:59.04 | abrotman | pack of sheep ? |
| 14:59.11 | nekromaa1 | stew, ok im in ;) |
| 14:59.13 | asg | abrotman: probably safer than cigs |
| 14:59.13 | Illusia | a flock maybe |
| 14:59.33 | wols | where wolves are, are the welve's food. ergo: sheep |
| 14:59.38 | _solar_ | i changed owner:group in root, where do i find orginal setings? |
| 14:59.42 | wols | and wolves are hard to spot. sheep are easy |
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| 14:59.49 | Illusia | anyone in here know anything about Debian LOL |
| 14:59.55 | wols | so: when you see sheep, alsways look for the wolves |
| 15:00.06 | _solar_ | lol |
| 15:00.12 | wols | Illusia: this is a sheep channel |
| 15:00.19 | raf256` | meee |
| 15:00.20 | Illusia | ahhh but i dont see any mattress's |
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| 15:00.40 | stew | Illusia: if you have a debian related question, just ask |
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| 15:00.42 | asg | _solar_: /msg dpkg i frobbed my perms with chmod |
| 15:00.47 | my007ms | how can i make apt-get install nagios and it's all dependencies |
| 15:01.02 | _solar_ | OK asg |
| 15:01.10 | my007ms | it's stop and say Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 15:01.23 | wols | apt-get always installs all dependencies of a package. that's its reason of existence |
| 15:01.36 | nekromaa1 | stew, where is the browse button? |
| 15:01.38 | stew | my007ms: get us the information in /msg dpkg bat |
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| 15:01.49 | wols | and it also says why it can't install those packages |
| 15:01.58 | wols | nekromaa1: what browse button? |
| 15:02.01 | my007ms | apache-common: Depends: libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:02.02 | Illusia | No questions right now...I'm just delighted there are soooo many Debian users here in case I do |
| 15:02.07 | GoAuLd | someone tell me some game for linux please |
| 15:02.09 | GoAuLd | im bored |
| 15:02.16 | cahoot | my007ms: still a Woody system? |
| 15:02.18 | phaedrus44 | tuxracer |
| 15:02.22 | Dunedan | GoAuLd: try nexuiz |
| 15:02.24 | stew | nekromaa1: "...ASCII character set will make it through to the final paste." then there is a textbox, then the browse button |
| 15:02.25 | wols | enemy territory |
| 15:02.26 | nekromaa1 | on http://pastebin.ca/upload.php i can only upload, but not select a file to upload |
| 15:02.30 | Illusia | Frozen bubble is absolutely addictive |
| 15:02.32 | my007ms | cahoot, it's 3.0 |
| 15:02.44 | stew | nekromaa1: the browse button is immediately before the upload button |
| 15:02.45 | GoAuLd | thanks; ill try that |
| 15:03.47 | _solar_ | asg: i didnt use chmod but chown |
| 15:04.22 | nekromaa1 | stew i pasted the Xorg.0.log on the hp |
| 15:04.27 | ktwilight | i can't get j2re installed. i get a bunch of permission denied after going through the license agreement and unpacking. the comments (article 142 at debian-administration) don't help me either. fakeroot is used, and nothing seems odd when i do fakeroot /usr/bin/id. what could it be then? |
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| 15:05.01 | asg | _solar_: the same info would have been available |
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| 15:05.31 | _solar_ | asg: i see only 5000000 dirs scrolling |
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| 15:06.00 | asg | _solar_: It's of no use to you at this point, only something to keep in mind for next time after you fix your perms/ownership |
| 15:06.56 | nekromaa1 | stew do you find it? |
| 15:06.57 | _solar_ | haah! |
| 15:07.19 | asg | _solar_: how much of your system did you mess up anyway? |
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| 15:07.20 | wols | nekromaa1: you need us to tell the URL it gave you when you pasted it |
| 15:07.52 | _solar_ | asg: not much |
| 15:07.58 | asg | _solar_: which dir(s)? |
| 15:08.02 | _solar_ | in / mostly is root:root anyway |
| 15:08.10 | _solar_ | well all dirs in root |
| 15:08.25 | stew | nekromaa1: no, i don't see it |
| 15:08.30 | nekromaa1 | wols, mine is on the top now |
| 15:08.31 | nekromaa1 | stew |
| 15:08.33 | asg | _solar_: did you do it recursively? (chown -R) |
| 15:08.49 | nekromaa1 | i hope you see it now |
| 15:08.51 | _solar_ | no not -R asg |
| 15:08.57 | wols | and the X log? |
| 15:09.00 | _solar_ | just plain root |
| 15:09.03 | nekromaa1 | wols, one mom plz |
| 15:09.10 | asg | _solar_: oh, then you should be fine. Everything in / is root:root except for /home which is root:staff |
| 15:09.26 | stew | nekromaa1: i do, but only the xorg.conf, not the log. and since you haven't yet told us what the problem is, we'll either need you to tell us what error you are getting or post the log |
| 15:09.30 | _solar_ | asg: THX ALOT |
| 15:09.45 | _solar_ | hmm i think i have root:users |
| 15:10.07 | nekromaa1 | stew, wols, xorg-log is up |
| 15:10.13 | asg | _solar_: should be okay too |
| 15:10.21 | _solar_ | perfect |
| 15:11.44 | stew | signal 8? |
| 15:12.18 | nekromaa1 | stew, wols got it? |
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| 15:12.52 | stew | nekromaa1: yes |
| 15:13.02 | wols | nekromaa1: what nvidia videochip do you have? |
| 15:13.14 | nekromaa1 | wols, XFX 7600 GT |
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| 15:15.10 | nekromaa1 | wols, stew, but im using the 2.4.27 kernel cause i upgraded from sarge |
| 15:15.51 | nekromaa1 | exit |
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| 15:16.28 | my007ms | thanks all |
| 15:16.29 | my007ms | gtg |
| 15:16.34 | jetscreamer | G70 |
| 15:18.51 | nekromaan | stew, wols do you know what the reason could be? |
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| 15:20.22 | kepht | why are the debian-security Release.gpg files 0k ? |
| 15:20.38 | jetscreamer | because they're very small |
| 15:20.42 | jetscreamer | aka <1k |
| 15:21.24 | wols | nekromaan: can you try the VESA driver? |
| 15:21.48 | nekromaan | wols , yep i will try it |
| 15:22.33 | wols | from the backtrace it looks like the nv driver coupled with the, to the nv driver, unknown videocard has something to do with the crash |
| 15:22.53 | wols | if vesa works, I'd suggest installing the nvidia binary driver |
| 15:23.11 | nekromaan | wols, doesnt work, modules which are loaded are glx and dri regarding xorg.conf |
| 15:23.19 | jetscreamer | don't load dri |
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| 15:23.55 | jetscreamer | i think it's deprecated, but don't load gl_core explicitly either |
| 15:24.17 | SonicChao | !oftc |
| 15:24.18 | dpkg | [oftc] the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. See also <freenode> and <fact sharing> |
| 15:24.29 | SonicChao | Why are there still people here? |
| 15:24.34 | jetscreamer | also do you have agpgart loaded, it helps.. but won't error out |
| 15:24.35 | SonicChao | Didn't debian move? |
| 15:24.35 | nekromaan | wols, its interesting that it works under ubuntu -_-; should i disable dri or glx? |
| 15:24.41 | jetscreamer | because i have enough servers |
| 15:24.42 | jetscreamer | dri |
| 15:24.44 | jetscreamer | not glx |
| 15:25.04 | gravity | SonicChao: Many people are on both servers. Also because many other projects are on freenode still |
| 15:25.27 | streuner | still? |
| 15:25.33 | wols | nekromaan: anothe possibility. ubuntu used nv driver as well? with Xorg 7.0? |
| 15:25.38 | nekromaan | jetscreamer, wols, my graphic card is a pcie |
| 15:25.41 | SonicChao | gravity, there are more people here than on OFTC...that's kind of rediculious don't you think? |
| 15:25.45 | gravity | Sure. Xorg is still on freenode so I have to be here. |
| 15:25.52 | nekromaan | wols, yep ubuntu does |
| 15:26.06 | gravity | SonicChao: It doesn't really matter. All that changed is where irc.debian.org points to. |
| 15:26.23 | SonicChao | gravity, okay |
| 15:26.48 | gravity | I guess this isn't technically an official Debian channel anymore, but we still run it the exact same way |
| 15:27.16 | asg | gravity: it wasn't really an official channel before |
| 15:27.40 | gravity | hrmpf |
| 15:27.56 | asg | gravity: though it was treaded as such more or less ;) |
| 15:27.57 | gravity | I have wishlist bug open against xdm to implement a "none" option for xdm/kdm/wdm/gdm |
| 15:28.00 | kepht | is it labeled "unofficial" in the topic? |
| 15:28.04 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 15:28.08 | gravity | asg: It actually was listed as an official channel |
| 15:28.41 | streuner | hm |
| 15:28.43 | jetscreamer | xdm uses it's own scripting language eh |
| 15:28.43 | nekromaan | wols, do i have to forget debian :(? |
| 15:29.02 | jetscreamer | or something like that, in the .conf |
| 15:29.43 | streuner | gravity: where did you read that? :-) |
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| 15:30.33 | jetscreamer | with twm , how would i get the menus to NOT require me to hold the mouse button down |
| 15:30.48 | gravity | hrm, they changed the text. It used to be on http://www.debian.org/support#irc |
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| 15:31.51 | asg | gravity: didn't say something along the lines of 'Use at your own risk, some of the people there can be right gits?' :) |
| 15:32.59 | gravity | It was always considered an official channel for a while. There was more than one discussion as to whether or not to divest the project from it officially. |
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| 15:33.47 | mattl | hey.. i'm using Ubuntu Dapper, I want to upgrade to Debian Unstable - does anyone have any ideas on how I'd do this? |
| 15:33.57 | pipeline | mattl: Reinstall. |
| 15:33.57 | mattl | Would updating my sources.list and running a dist-upgrade solve it? |
| 15:33.59 | asg | mattl: install sarge ; /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 15:34.11 | Barkley | what's the command to quickly test the i/o speed of a disk? |
| 15:34.13 | pipeline | mattl: Oh, it *might*. I wouldn't count on it. |
| 15:34.14 | pipeline | Barkley: dd. |
| 15:34.17 | gravity | mattl: It's probably going to take some hand massaging |
| 15:34.17 | asg | Barkley: hdparm |
| 15:34.31 | gravity | mattl: If you're not up to a significant amount of that, a reinstall is smarter |
| 15:34.44 | gravity | But it's possible in some senses |
| 15:35.15 | mattl | gravity: Would a reinstall be basically downloading the ISO and installing from that? I wouldn't want to lose the contents of my hard disk. |
| 15:35.20 | nekromaan | wols, stew, although my pc makes troubles to debian big thx for help |
| 15:35.27 | streuner | upgrading from "Dapper" is prolly a nightmare to unstable and really not that smart. |
| 15:35.32 | mattl | Also, I'm on a PowerPC, and I don't know if that makes a difference. |
| 15:35.34 | gravity | mattl: Yeah |
| 15:35.38 | wols | nekromaan: did vesa work? |
| 15:35.41 | pipeline | mattl: It doesn't make a difference, and you still need to reinstall. |
| 15:35.45 | Barkley | hdparm -Tt /dev/sda this works on a scsi system when not in single-user? |
| 15:35.52 | nekromaan | wols, no :( |
| 15:35.54 | gravity | mattl: Are you worried about only your home dir? Is it on a separate partition? |
| 15:36.08 | stew | nekromaan: you might have a hardware problem then |
| 15:36.18 | mattl | I will backup first - yeah, just my home directory. |
| 15:36.35 | gravity | mattl: If it's on a separate partition you can have the installer not touch that partition |
| 15:36.45 | gravity | It's generally *very* smart to keep /home on its own partition |
| 15:36.54 | mattl | gravity: Well, it's an external disk. I can just not plug it in to make totally sure. |
| 15:36.59 | gravity | That works |
| 15:37.16 | nekromaan | wols, but he gives an other error; stew nono ubuntu works with this hardware :/ |
| 15:38.02 | nekromaan | stew maybe debian is not that acutal like ubuntu? |
| 15:38.02 | mattl | gravity: I can't find an ISO for unstable - only for sarge and etch. |
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| 15:38.19 | streuner | mattl: read what asg told you |
| 15:38.22 | Barkley | 362 MB/s cached, 16 MB/s disk read.......that sound decent? |
| 15:38.25 | gravity | mattl: Such things don't exist. Nor should they. Install etch and then move to unstable |
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| 15:38.34 | nekromaan | stew, maybe my uli chipset makes troubles |
| 15:38.39 | Barkley | this is just a dev server |
| 15:38.41 | wols | Barkley: no |
| 15:38.48 | wols | 16MB/s is too low |
| 15:39.00 | mattl | streuner: thanks. missed that. |
| 15:39.10 | Barkley | wols for scsi2? |
| 15:39.18 | stew | nekromaan: you might try upgrading your kernel. 2.4 is not really supported under etch anymore anyay, /msg dpkg etch upgrade kernel |
| 15:39.19 | Barkley | doesn't it max at 20? |
| 15:39.20 | roxy_ | wols: I finished compiling the kernel with make-kpkg. Do I copy image, initrd and update menu.lst manually or is there a debian command to do so ? |
| 15:39.22 | wols | ok, for scsi 8GB drives it's good |
| 15:39.35 | Barkley | 18 but ok...thanx for the tips people |
| 15:39.38 | wols | assumed IDE with PIO mode. there the limit is exactly 16MB/s |
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| 15:40.18 | mattl | I'm guessing the Kernel in sid is at least 2.6.15 - is this right? |
| 15:40.21 | wols | roxy_: I told you about kp-mantra |
| 15:40.45 | pipeline | Barkley: Nothing has vanilla SCSI-2 |
| 15:40.56 | Barkley | whatta ya mean? |
| 15:41.13 | pipeline | Barkley: SCSI-2 is like, late eighties. |
| 15:41.22 | Barkley | ah this is a sun ultra 2 enterprise |
| 15:41.24 | pipeline | Barkley: A 8G drive is more likely to be 40 MB/s |
| 15:41.31 | Barkley | from 96 |
| 15:41.33 | pipeline | Barkley: Yeah, that thing has a 40 MB/s SCSI bus. |
| 15:41.40 | roxy_ | wols: did the last command of kp-mantra already did it ? |
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| 15:41.59 | MoDaX | mattl: 2.6.17 |
| 15:42.00 | pipeline | Barkley: I've forgotten the specific voodoo -- fast wide SCSI-2, maybe? Ultra fast wide enterprise edition SCSI 2 and a half? Whatever. 16 MB/s sucks. |
| 15:42.12 | nekromaan | stew, i had the same problems with 2.6.15 of etch, but i found once a hp where it says that my uli chipset supports sid, so i will try to install debian with the sid installer |
| 15:42.12 | pipeline | Barkley: You should be getting more like 30. |
| 15:42.16 | Barkley | yeah its Ultra FW |
| 15:42.18 | mattl | MoDaX: Thanks. My hardware will work :) |
| 15:42.22 | wols | roxy_: kernel-package makes a .deb |
| 15:42.30 | Barkley | ok---ill fig out what's killing it |
| 15:42.36 | pipeline | Barkley: Probably linux brain damage. |
| 15:42.48 | Barkley | or ubuntu |
| 15:42.51 | pipeline | Barkley: Your best bet is to install Solaris :\ |
| 15:43.01 | wols | pipeline: 16MB/s is from disk platter to memeory. what you#re describing is only cable speed |
| 15:43.07 | nekromaan | wols, may is ask you how stable sid is? |
| 15:43.19 | pipeline | wols: The bus maxes out at 40, sure, but on a drive that new, he should be able to get ~30 sustained. |
| 15:43.23 | ktwilight | sid's codename is unstable |
| 15:43.25 | wols | my SATA runs at 150MB/s, doesn't mean I get that speed with any SAZA disk anywhere |
| 15:43.41 | Barkley | solaris drives me to drink more jack daniels than i should...spending the day trying ti get stuff done in it is like walking through sticker patches |
| 15:43.44 | wols | on a 16GB disk? with how many platters? you dream |
| 15:44.00 | wols | hdd speed is a function of data density mostly |
| 15:44.06 | pipeline | wols: My early-90s sun gear with 7200 rpm drives does better than that, dude. |
| 15:44.53 | nekromaan | ok then, big thx wols and stew, i hope it will work with the sid installer :/ .. thats my last chance, so bba |
| 15:44.56 | nekromaan | exit |
| 15:44.57 | roxy_ | wols: found it, thanks for your help. |
| 15:44.58 | pipeline | wols: Rather, my system with much slower, smaller drives running SunOS handles about 16 MB/s I/O to the hard drive. A much newer system with modern 7200 rpm drives shoudl be doing much better than that :P |
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| 15:45.15 | wols | nekromaan: it's not unstable as in windows, like bugs in programs galore. Even if they exist. but unstable does break once in a while |
| 15:46.06 | jetscreamer | so why didn't nekromaan install the nvidia binary |
| 15:46.23 | Barkley | time dd if=/dev/zero of=temp.txt bs=1024k count=128 = 52MB/s look better? |
| 15:46.37 | pipeline | Barkley: Heh, that's got to be all caching there. |
| 15:46.47 | pipeline | Barkley: Do a much larger file such that it will overflow the cache many, many times :P |
| 15:46.59 | pipeline | Barkley: e.g. bs=1M count=1024 |
| 15:47.04 | Barkley | ok trying a gb |
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| 15:48.06 | Barkley | ok haha 18MB/s |
| 15:48.37 | Barkley | i think the scsi on this is 20MB/s so im satisfied |
| 15:49.50 | wols | yes, scsi2 can't be faster than 20MB/s |
| 15:50.13 | Eclipser | 20MB/s is pretty slow :p |
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| 15:51.14 | wols | tech from 1992... |
| 15:51.20 | Eclipser | :) |
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| 15:51.30 | wols | back then ATA folks couldn't eve spell tagged command queueing :) |
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| 15:52.55 | concept10 | anyone use xen? does the defaut xen install run openssh on boot? |
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| 15:53.38 | jedd | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.43 | asg | concept10: xen is just a kernel + some tools. The host operating system is responsible for running openssh as are the guest operating systems. |
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| 15:54.57 | concept10 | asg, i know what xen is. mind you your install changes the boot scripts |
| 15:55.16 | rhys | well i got apt to find the packages now...but the problem is that when it tries to install them, it cant find them |
| 15:55.16 | asg | concept10: then feel free to change them back to suit your needs |
| 15:55.58 | iLLf8d | /msg dpkg oftc stupid move till it becomes more active |
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| 15:56.30 | asg | iLLf8d: if you've been in here long enough, you'll know that 80% of the people in here either say nothing or don't say anything worthwhile. |
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| 15:56.36 | rhys | Packages.gz is in the directory...then it tells that the package is in ./3/3dchess/3dchess.deb |
| 15:56.40 | rhys | which is exactly where it is |
| 15:56.55 | rhys | but apt wont install it, says it cant find the packgae |
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| 15:57.12 | iLLf8d | asg, that network is barren tho a linkbot between the 2 would be nice |
| 15:57.21 | itrebal | http://pastehere.com/?fqcmyb I'm working on setting up rsync for my images, and with that config file when I run the command thats in the comment there, it will update /home/itrebal/images instead of /home/iamgraham/imags - why's that? |
| 15:57.39 | iLLf8d | asg, seems to work out nicely in the python channel |
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| 15:59.03 | stew | iLLf8d: i don't see a problem with the current situation. just use whichever network you prefer. most of the consistently good helpers are in both channels anyway |
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| 16:00.03 | iLLf8d | stew, good point use whichever and helpers are in both channels as you say |
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| 16:00.06 | xored | is tcng is only for iproute or also for iptables ? |
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| 16:01.33 | jedd | is there a known problem with unstable at the moment, specifically some debconf and/or perl stuff? i'm getting aborts during the upgrade of a few key packages (xorg, primarily) |
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| 16:02.21 | iLLf8d | jedd, I've had trouble with unstable from time to time because of xorg packages lost x once or twice because of it |
| 16:02.27 | iLLf8d | jedd, dunno its current status tho |
| 16:02.42 | stew | jedd: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 16:03.02 | jedd | iLLf8d: hmm .. i'm getting a 'fixed' font can't be found, which is usually easy enough to track down, but i think there's the xorg 7 transition (?), the gcc stuff, and seemingly some perl changes going on .. it's a bit unpleasant. |
| 16:03.25 | jedd | stew: i've searched the wiki, b.k.o, and a few of the usual suspects' blogs .. nothing matches my errors. |
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| 16:03.49 | iLLf8d | yeah I haven't had much trouble with unstable over the last 10+ years or so (or what was its equiv back then) till more recently |
| 16:03.54 | jedd | stew: and i like to hit b.k.o as a last resort .. irc is typically my second last resort. ;) |
| 16:04.03 | stew | what is b.k.o? |
| 16:04.17 | stew | !dw jedd Xorg69To7 |
| 16:04.18 | dpkg | jedd: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
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| 16:04.21 | iLLf8d | altho I wasn't upgrading daily ever just like once a month |
| 16:04.23 | kepht | jedd: might try reconfiguring your locales |
| 16:04.25 | jedd | sorry, b.d.o .. the other bugtracker i haunt is kde.org's. |
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| 16:04.38 | xored | is tcng is only for iproute or also for iptables ? |
| 16:04.40 | jedd | iLLf8d: yeah, i'm down to a once a fortnight upgrade these days .. |
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| 16:05.11 | jedd | kepht: yeah .. ? shall have a burl of that, but i don't know how that'd be breaking xorg and vnc at the same time. |
| 16:05.27 | kepht | burl? |
| 16:05.38 | cplx | k |
| 16:05.39 | jedd | uhm, 'look see' |
| 16:06.24 | mha13 | how can i move my /usr to a diffrent parttion ? (expect cp * ? ) |
| 16:06.28 | kepht | jedd: when i upgraded xorg, my fonts and locale info got screw'd ..there also seems tobe a problem with debconf |
| 16:06.35 | jedd | kepht: probably a uniquely .au colloquialism .. typically used in 'i'll give that a burl'. |
| 16:07.06 | jedd | kepht: yeah .. was your debconf problem with some perl5 errors in various modules? i really don't want to hunt down the internals of that stuff (not least cos i don't know perl) |
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| 16:07.48 | DerJamster | some errors are triggered when you keep /tmp noexec. |
| 16:08.41 | fwtest | if i connect to solaris box and try to read mail with mutt, the german umlaut is not correctly showed, also if i try to write mail, the backspace works like delete key, what should i do? |
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| 16:09.43 | stew | jedd: we could probably be much more helpful if you showed us the actual errors |
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| 16:12.16 | jedd | stew: it's the bog standard "could not open default font 'fixed'" with vnc .. and when installing xserver-xorg i'm getting a few lines like this: Use of uninitialized value in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 80, <GEN1> line 8. |
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| 16:13.19 | jedd | stew: I was getting (varlog x) the 'could not opened fixed font' problem there, up until i tried to remove and reinstall the xserver-xorg packages, but i have a sneaky suspicion that during the upgrade earlier this afternoon, it never actually installed properly .. |
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| 16:13.39 | stew | jedd: install the "xorg" package which will make sure you have the package containing fixed. also double check that your fontpaths are pointing to the newer locations (the moved recently) (the Xorg69To7 page should have information) |
| 16:14.23 | jedd | curiously, i can crank up vnc as root .. no errors, launches fine. now that's a bit odd. |
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| 16:15.06 | jedd | Stew: yeah, changed fontpath stuff in /etc/vnc.conf, and later just pointed that at the xorg conf file, and changed it (xorg.conf) to point to the new font locations (/usr/share/fonts .. ?) whichever they're in, anyhoo. |
| 16:15.50 | estong_ | may i know how to disable ipv6 and just use ipv4 in proftpd and other services? |
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| 16:16.28 | solars | hi, I wanted to install waste(.sf.net), it requires libwx 2.5, however I only have 2.6 from unstable, can anyone give me a hint ? |
| 16:16.36 | stew | estong_: blacklist the ipv6 module, /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 16:16.40 | jedd | stew: xorg depends xserver-xorg, and it's xserver.xorg that appears to have the dodgy install scripts at the moment .. but this machine has been with me so long that it's possible there are some other nasties lurking within. this seems more and more likely if no one else is experiencing the same problems .. |
| 16:17.04 | stew | jedd: i don't believe the xserver-xorg scripts are dodgy |
| 16:17.12 | stew | jedd: what version of xfonts-base do you have installed |
| 16:17.15 | jedd | stew: yeah, i wouldn't imagine they'd be dodgy either. |
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| 16:17.26 | jedd | stew: 1.0.0-3 |
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| 16:17.45 | stew | jedd: put your xorg.conf into a pastebin |
| 16:17.48 | jedd | xserver-xorg is in state 'ic' (according to dpkg) .. |
| 16:17.59 | stew | oh |
| 16:18.04 | stew | that means not installed afaik |
| 16:18.29 | crypt_ex | Everytime I buy a new cell phone, the software never works with Linux...what do you guys do with your mobiles? |
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| 16:19.35 | DerJamster | Would you scream if I said 'I don't have one'? ;P |
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| 16:19.53 | stew | jedd: looking at #201703 it seems the running fix_db.pl might help |
| 16:19.57 | jedd | stew: yeah, it's not in a good state. :) uhm, can i zap you a url instead of pastebin (not familiar with that) |
| 16:20.23 | stew | jedd: i dont' care what url, just please don't flood in here |
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| 16:21.09 | concept10 | crypt_ex, depends on what you want to do with your phone. I personally wouldnt expect a phone running windows mobile or some off the wall os to be supported by open source |
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| 16:21.33 | crypt_ex | concept10, usually just update it in terms of music and videos |
| 16:21.35 | concept10 | crypt_ex, but linux supports some phones |
| 16:21.46 | jelly-home | crypt_ex: perhaps investigating compatibility before buying hardware would help. |
| 16:22.07 | jedd | stew: i'm really not silly enough to flood in here. honestly. |
| 16:22.18 | crypt_ex | jelly-home, I fell for this phone before I had the chance to look hehe |
| 16:22.27 | jedd | stew: this looks like it .. hmm .. if their diagnosis is accurate, that's less than encouraging (file sytem corruption). |
| 16:22.38 | jelly-home | crypt_ex: congrats, you shot yourself in the foot! ;-) |
| 16:22.46 | crypt_ex | lol |
| 16:22.47 | concept10 | crypt_ex, and before someone was able to make drivers for it (maybe) |
| 16:22.53 | crypt_ex | Yea |
| 16:23.23 | crypt_ex | I wish these companies started releasing software for Linux as well as Windows. |
| 16:23.41 | concept10 | crypt_ex, i have seen many apps on sourceforge that support mobile phone |
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| 16:24.11 | jelly-home | crypt_ex: even if the phone supports a common api (like obex protocol, or some Nokia APIs), usually you'll get only a subset of features. |
| 16:24.19 | rhys | i fucking give up. i have been working on this fucking debian repository for 4 DAYS. |
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| 16:24.46 | crypt_ex | its a Samsung, so lets hope |
| 16:24.51 | crypt_ex | will checkout sourceforge. |
| 16:24.52 | jedd | stew: this has got me much further! thanks for the pointer to the debconf bug. |
| 16:24.53 | stew | rhys: did you create a packages.gz with dpkg-scanpacakges? |
| 16:25.08 | concept10 | crypt_ex, what model samsung |
| 16:25.21 | crypt_ex | E900 |
| 16:25.43 | jelly-home | crypt_ex: next time at least google for "<insert-model-number> linux". |
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| 16:26.04 | rhys | stew, yes i did. and its Packages.gz , it wont recognize it if its lowercase. and then i put it in binary-i386 with all the packages, then figured out the apt-get update. so it found the fucking packages. and i bring up aptitude. and it has a list of all the files. when i try to install anything, it doesnt find the actually package to install |
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| 16:26.52 | mha13 | how do i copy directory with it all sub directories |
| 16:26.53 | stew | rhys: i'd guess then that the packages.gz refers to the wrong relative path |
| 16:27.00 | stew | rhys: can i see the repository? |
| 16:27.12 | stew | mha13: look at the -a or -r options to cp |
| 16:27.13 | rhys | so when i finnally get apt to find it, it doenst point right. and it does! Packages.gz is in binary-i386. and in that file goes the /a/packename/package.deb ...so the Packages.gz points to ./a/packagename/package.deb |
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| 16:27.39 | rhys | see the repository? |
| 16:27.51 | stew | rhys: is the repository on http? |
| 16:27.55 | rhys | no. |
| 16:28.11 | azeem | is it a FAT partition? |
| 16:28.13 | concept10 | crypt_ex, http://www.bitpim.org/ |
| 16:28.36 | rhys | azeem, its on a reiserfs partition, transfered from a FAT partion. |
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| 16:28.48 | rhys | right now its on reiserfs part of my lvm |
| 16:28.52 | crypt_ex | concept10, checking it out |
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| 16:29.16 | azeem | rhys: so maybe regenerate it on the reiser partition |
| 16:29.21 | rhys | so i tried something else. i tried reprepro.. |
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| 16:29.34 | stew | rhys: strace it and see what path its actually looking for, you might find that it is looking at binary-i386/a/packagename... when you expect it to be looking somewhere like binary-i386/../../pool/a/packagename |
| 16:29.38 | rhys | and it gives me the error , gpgme gave errro: File Error |
| 16:29.39 | azeem | reprepro might be overkill for just a few packages |
| 16:29.50 | rhys | azeem, there is 15 thousand packages |
| 16:29.55 | azeem | rhys: in your repo? |
| 16:30.09 | rhys | 15,195 in main, 185 in contrib |
| 16:30.11 | mha13 | stew: 10q |
| 16:30.20 | azeem | rhys: are you mirroring the Debian repository? |
| 16:30.38 | rhys | azeem, no. i just extracted /pool/ from 14 ISOs |
| 16:30.41 | bunny | How would one go about recompiling the kernel for 2.6.8? |
| 16:30.49 | azeem | rhys: euh |
| 16:30.54 | rhys | stew, strace? |
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| 16:31.25 | rhys | yea. i dont have strace |
| 16:31.32 | crypt_ex | concept10, looks good, downloading now. Thanks |
| 16:31.57 | rhys | now i do |
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| 16:32.12 | mha13 | 10q all |
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| 16:32.24 | lefti | Hi, does sarge use /dev from kernel or udevd? |
| 16:32.39 | rhys | and stew, actually that is how i want it to look |
| 16:33.25 | azeem | maybe you could paste your sources.list line and the full path of the Packages.gz and to one .deb |
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| 16:35.01 | rhys | azeem, kk |
| 16:35.02 | eastwood | how can i allow applications to use the sound device concurrently |
| 16:35.07 | stew | !strace |
| 16:35.08 | dpkg | i heard strace is a system call tracing utility. Run it like so: 'strace -f -o LOGFILE EXEC'.. A good way to diagnose problems |
| 16:35.33 | azeem | eastwood: use a sound server like artsd or esound |
| 16:35.35 | eastwood | sounds keeps being muted if another applications is using alsa... |
| 16:35.36 | azeem | or dmix and alsa |
| 16:35.45 | lefti | Can i install package via deboostap? |
| 16:35.55 | azeem | lefti: what do you mean? |
| 16:36.06 | azeem | do you want to add additional packages to set debootstrap installs? |
| 16:36.09 | azeem | +the |
| 16:36.18 | lefti | probably ;) |
| 16:36.26 | azeem | lefti: why? |
| 16:36.44 | eastwood | azeem, ty |
| 16:37.25 | lefti | :) i haven't keyboard and mouse on target machine and i haven't machine with same arch. |
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| 16:38.02 | lefti | ok, i can unpack .deb, but it isn't comportable as something like debootstrap ..... |
| 16:38.15 | crypt_ex | Where can I find mirrors for apt-get to use? |
| 16:38.27 | azeem | lefti: so you want to include openssh-server to be able to login? |
| 16:38.46 | lefti | azeem: yes |
| 16:39.09 | azeem | AFAIK there's a command-line option for that |
| 16:39.37 | silverblade | Im running Sarge and want to install lighttpd, which appears to be in "unstable"... how can i make apt install it? |
| 16:40.18 | rhys | azeem, stew, http://rafb.net/paste/results/UonXho80.html |
| 16:40.19 | lefti | i afraid it isn't. |
| 16:40.24 | Ox0F0-0FF | \Is there a flash implementation other than macromedia's ? macromedia flash for linux sucks, doesn't display everything well, is outdated and keeps crashing my browser |
| 16:40.25 | roxy_ | stew: you taught me few days ago how to create an initrd using a debian package. I can't remember it. What should I ask dpkg for ? |
| 16:40.34 | ptlis | gplflash |
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| 16:40.46 | ptlis | It was a dead project last I checked. |
| 16:41.31 | concept10 | gnash |
| 16:41.38 | concept10 | is a project |
| 16:41.48 | Ox0F0-0FF | hum |
| 16:41.54 | Ox0F0-0FF | Thanks |
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| 16:42.05 | lefti | azeem: and i want to install debian kernel too ;) |
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| 16:43.22 | Ox0F0-0FF | no gnash debian package ? |
| 16:43.55 | concept10 | silverblade, read about adding repositories... and/or installing lighty from source. thats what i would do |
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| 16:44.38 | silverblade | concept10: i found the apt source list but couldnt figure out how to add repositories. i installed lighttpd from source but the init script it came with doesnt work. |
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| 16:44.49 | silverblade | i also want to run php5 :/ |
| 16:44.54 | rhys | stew , dont you see how that looks right?? |
| 16:46.31 | stoned | ok, sorry about last night guys, I was drunk and my neighbour was haraassing me to burn him a dvd. But today I've got time to read, what do I need to do in order to burn video DVDs on debian |
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| 16:46.51 | stoned | I am using sid btw. I have k3b,and a bunch of dvd tools, I can play dvds too, no problem |
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| 16:47.03 | stoned | and I wanted to make a video dvd out of AVI/mpg/ files etc. |
| 16:47.15 | azeem | rhys: what's the line in sources.list? |
| 16:47.39 | rhys | deb file:/srv/repo stable main contrib |
| 16:47.48 | stoned | any help would be apprecaited, I've been searching google but its not giving me anything debian related |
| 16:47.49 | rhys | apt-get update finds packages.gz just fine |
| 16:47.50 | nefertum | i've installed amarok in debian sid, and amarokapp binary is not in the amarok package |
| 16:47.56 | nefertum | so amarok doesn't start |
| 16:48.07 | wols | stoned: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117709 |
| 16:48.08 | nefertum | anything about this? |
| 16:48.19 | stoned | wols, ok I'll check it, but gentoo? |
| 16:48.56 | stoned | ohhh, wold thank you man |
| 16:48.59 | stoned | bbl |
| 16:49.00 | concept10 | silverblade, you should read about adding respositories before installing from unstable, im sure lighttpd is in stable |
| 16:49.01 | wols | ask google, and it's the first thing that comes out |
| 16:49.03 | stoned | wols* |
| 16:49.16 | stoned | yes I but i disregarded it since it was gentoo based |
| 16:49.17 | wols | doesn't mean you have to install gentoo to do it |
| 16:49.25 | stoned | yea, I got it now that I read it |
| 16:49.26 | stoned | thanks |
| 16:49.29 | wols | linux is linux (the OS) |
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| 16:49.50 | azeem | rhys: I think apt starts looking at /srv/repo/ |
| 16:49.59 | azeem | so it would look for /srv/repo/./8/855resolution/855resolution_0.3-4_i386.deb |
| 16:50.00 | simonrvn | linux is the kernel, not the os |
| 16:50.24 | stoned | nefertum, on sid, did you isntalled the package from the sid/debian repositoires or from somewhere else? |
| 16:50.31 | qwertz | Hi, the flash plugin in firefox doesn't show any text so it seems some neede fonts are missing, does anybody know which the flash plugin uses/needs? |
| 16:50.34 | stoned | simonrvn, correct |
| 16:50.36 | azeem | rhys: try to s/./dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ |
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| 16:50.48 | stoned | everything but the kernel is 3rd party |
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| 16:50.52 | wols | simonrvn: and hacking is not breaking into computer. yeah right. 1990s have called, they want their words back |
| 16:50.55 | azeem | or rather s#.#dists/stable/main/binary-i386# |
| 16:51.10 | nefertum | stoned: from debian repositoires |
| 16:51.10 | rhys | s#.#dists? |
| 16:51.18 | rhys | azeem, in sources.list? |
| 16:51.26 | azeem | in packages.gz |
| 16:51.29 | simonrvn | wols: snarky comments == /ignored. not my fault you took me in such a manner |
| 16:51.30 | stoned | nefertum, how about dpkg -L amarok|grep bin |
| 16:51.50 | stoned | nefertum, look for amarokapp should be there if not then please check with the BTS *bug tracking system* |
| 16:51.56 | simonrvn | !bts |
| 16:51.57 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 16:52.10 | wols | not my fault you took me in such a manner either when I extra added the parentheses |
| 16:52.16 | nefertum | stoned: only /usr/bin/amarok |
| 16:52.44 | stoned | nefertum, when did you install it? |
| 16:52.51 | lefti | where can i found *deb files same as in actuall stable? |
| 16:52.53 | stoned | nefertum, I also use amarok and I updated my sid system last night |
| 16:52.57 | nefertum | mmm, five minutes ago |
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| 16:53.06 | stoned | ahh, hold on let me check and update again lets see whats up |
| 16:53.08 | lefti | on mirrors are only packages[.gz] |
| 16:53.14 | DingoK | Is there a gnome panel applet that I can install to monitor disk usage in debian ? |
| 16:53.19 | stoned | nefertum, you can however still use an older package that works |
| 16:53.23 | simonrvn | lefti: look in the pool/ dir |
| 16:54.14 | stoned | nefertum, amarok has not been updated, and I am using it right now |
| 16:54.16 | stoned | for examlpe |
| 16:54.19 | stoned | NP: Necrophagist -|- Onset of Putrefaction -|- " Intestinal Incubation " -|- (Death Metal) -|- (rating: 10/59) |
| 16:54.29 | lefti | simonrvn: Thanks. but it's x86 only, isn't it ? |
| 16:54.31 | stoned | it works man, maybe you could try to remove and install it again |
| 16:54.34 | nefertum | then i cannot understand this |
| 16:54.38 | rhys | just fuck it. im done with linux for a long while. |
| 16:54.46 | nefertum | i've open amarok deb package, and there is not amarokapp binary |
| 16:54.49 | simonrvn | lefti: no. some mirrors are full mirrors, some are partial |
| 16:54.52 | stoned | hmm |
| 16:54.57 | stoned | nefertum, very peculiar |
| 16:55.21 | nefertum | i can see /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp |
| 16:55.30 | simonrvn | nefertum: amarok is the binary, not amarokapp |
| 16:55.51 | lefti | simonrvn: ftp.debian.org is partial? |
| 16:55.54 | stoned | ahh correct, they changed the name recently |
| 16:55.57 | stoned | it USED to be amarokapp |
| 16:56.05 | stoned | i just did ps x and it shows amarok |
| 16:56.17 | simonrvn | lefti: yeh, ever since they re-did the arrangement. |
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| 16:57.20 | simonrvn | ftp.d.o isn't a full mirror anymore, since amd64 went in offically... there's some list posts describing this stuff in depth... um, in d-d-a i think? |
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| 16:59.25 | ShredZ | does testing default to using xorg 7 ? |
| 16:59.36 | stew | ShredZ: yes, its the only xserver offered in etch |
| 16:59.39 | stoned | !dbugs #359861 |
| 16:59.43 | dpkg | #359861:G[libquicktime0] files created by libquicktime0 not opened with same; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:18:08 UTC |
| 16:59.51 | stoned | wols, should this bug affect me with dvd burning? |
| 17:00.05 | stoned | it is still an open bug, grave |
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| 17:01.56 | wols | since you transcode? why? |
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| 17:02.35 | stoned | I read the bug on the website, I do not think it should matter, ok thanks |
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| 17:07.53 | tuxedup | When i apt-get update I recieve the following gpg error: GPG error: http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv. I have imported the latest gpg keys for the repos but still comes up, any oen have any ideas how to slve this, it has only just popped up in the last few days? |
| 17:08.28 | kepht | tuxedup: the Release.gpg file is 0k for some reason |
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| 17:09.34 | stew | its not 0k: http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/testing/updates/Release.gpg |
| 17:09.36 | mage__ | hey for the c preprocessor, #if 0 means its always false right? |
| 17:09.37 | tuxedup | I also tried with a fresh trustdb.gpg and tristed.gpg file and imported the gpg keys again but it still pops up |
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| 17:09.54 | stew | mage__: yes, it means that code will never been seen by the compiler |
| 17:10.41 | tuxedup | stew: how would I import that key? |
| 17:11.34 | kepht | stew: it was when i looked at it an hour ago, although i see it's not now |
| 17:12.46 | kepht | stew: i'm still getting the error though |
| 17:13.03 | stew | !no testing security key is ask me about <apt-key 2D230C5F> |
| 17:13.04 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 17:13.22 | stew | !apt-key 2D230C5F |
| 17:13.23 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 2D230C5F | sudo apt-key add -; |
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| 17:14.41 | tuxedup | stew: will importing that key sorrt the problem out? |
| 17:14.43 | stew | !testing security is also ask me about <testing security key> |
| 17:14.44 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 17:14.46 | stew | tuxedup: yes |
| 17:15.13 | stew | hmm i wonder if redirections work with a cmd: factoid |
| 17:15.54 | stew | aparantly not |
| 17:16.00 | tuxedup | stew: the message still appears |
| 17:16.05 | kepht | yeah |
| 17:16.28 | stew | i was able to make it appear then disspear by running apt-key del then apt-key add |
| 17:16.42 | stew | tuxedup: hmm, try using etch/updates instead of testing/updates |
| 17:17.36 | kepht | same result here |
| 17:17.36 | tuxedup | stew: still gives the error if I chnage it to etch |
| 17:18.48 | stew | i dunno then |
| 17:18.51 | bunny | anyone have any experience with trying to get an HP PSC 1350 all-in-one printer to print files from a networked win xp box? |
| 17:18.53 | kepht | heh |
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| 17:19.10 | kartebi | hello |
| 17:19.23 | simonrvn | stew: they do - i'm not sure of the syntax, but i think it's "foo is see also bar" |
| 17:19.36 | kartebi | anyone knows how can i install debian without booting a cd ? |
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| 17:19.49 | simonrvn | via floppy, netboot, usb key .... |
| 17:19.52 | kartebi | i'm using gentoo linux now |
| 17:19.57 | stew | simonrvn: yeah, doesn't seem to work when you try to redirect to a cmd: foo (.*?) factoid |
| 17:19.58 | simonrvn | !tell kartebi about install guide |
| 17:20.02 | eastwood | http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00026/00026000.jpg |
| 17:20.10 | kepht | How do i prevent sshd from starting, upon updates? |
| 17:20.25 | simonrvn | stew: oh, cmd: ... don't think so. it should :) |
| 17:20.31 | stew | yeah |
| 17:20.37 | simonrvn | it should as in "wanted feature" |
| 17:20.51 | stew | yeah |
| 17:21.07 | bunny | kartebi.. floppy |
| 17:21.11 | simonrvn | ffs, this client doesn't do /lastlog |
| 17:21.12 | bunny | floppy net inst |
| 17:21.32 | eastwood | pen drive install |
| 17:21.33 | kartebi | i mean mkreiserfs then unpack some stuff then chroot into debian. Can it be done ? |
| 17:21.48 | simonrvn | kartebi: that sounds like debootstrap |
| 17:22.02 | kartebi | i dont want to reboot |
| 17:22.12 | kartebi | gentoo installs fine |
| 17:22.15 | kartebi | like this |
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| 17:22.37 | eastwood | i know |
| 17:22.51 | eastwood | but gentoo takes a lof of time to install stuff |
| 17:22.58 | kartebi | cause when on install cd , no firefox for googling , no mp3 |
| 17:23.09 | kartebi | i know |
| 17:23.13 | bunny | o_o |
| 17:23.28 | eastwood | yaeh, i must say the new livecd is a must |
| 17:23.31 | bunny | kartebi.. get the multicd set or the DVD image |
| 17:23.32 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 17:23.37 | bunny | that would have a lot of packages for tha tkind of stuff |
| 17:23.38 | roxy_ | what package belong : ncurses-devel |
| 17:23.50 | kartebi | bunny i have 1mbit , no need to burn dvds |
| 17:23.51 | simonrvn | roxy_: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:24.05 | bunny | well then install off of cd and apt-get ya lazy git |
| 17:24.21 | kartebi | i'm not lazy |
| 17:24.25 | bunny | o_o |
| 17:24.28 | kartebi | i want to install without rebooting :D |
| 17:24.34 | kartebi | i already have linux |
| 17:24.36 | bunny | o_o |
| 17:24.39 | simonrvn | who the hell wants to browse the web during an install .. |
| 17:24.46 | kartebi | me :P |
| 17:25.01 | bunny | during an install your attention should be focused on the task at hand |
| 17:25.10 | bunny | i hate HP >_< |
| 17:25.38 | kartebi | i managed installing gentoo , i think debian shouldnt be a problem |
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| 17:25.53 | kartebi | but i hate burnings cds and rebooting |
| 17:26.20 | simonrvn | um, sometimes you have to reboot.. it's rare, but come on :) |
| 17:26.25 | mcgreg | I just compiled modules for somethinbg, and trying to modprobe therm I get : FATAL: Error inserting sheep (/lib/modules/2.6.17-1-powerpc/misc/sheep.ko): Invalid module format |
| 17:26.29 | mcgreg | how is that possible? |
| 17:26.43 | kartebi | reboot is needed :D |
| 17:26.49 | mcgreg | did something changed from 2.6.16 to 2.6.17 that it doesnt work anymore? |
| 17:27.33 | simonrvn | mcgreg: easily. different compiler version can do it |
| 17:27.45 | cahoot | mcgreg: compiler mismatch? |
| 17:27.55 | simonrvn | um, a 2.6.16 in a 2.6.27 module won't work.. |
| 17:28.03 | simonrvn | 17 kernel* |
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| 17:28.28 | mcgreg | but I never had such a problem till now. I always used debian kernel and compiled thoise modules since 2.6.12, 2.6.15 and for 2.6.16 , and it never had any problems |
| 17:28.54 | simonrvn | first time for everything |
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| 17:32.38 | Zvpun | can I get a listing of what program uses how much memory? |
| 17:33.00 | itrebal | i'm attempting to set my keyboard layout to dvorak with `loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/dvorak/dvorak-class.kmap.gz' and i'm getting the error: `Couldt get a file descriptor referring to the console' (many, many times) any ideas whats causing this and how i could fix it? |
| 17:33.30 | Zvpun | itrebal: are you in X? |
| 17:33.36 | itrebal | Zvpun: yea |
| 17:33.49 | Zvpun | itrebal: switch to a console with ALT-F1, .. ALT-F6 |
| 17:34.05 | Zvpun | itrebal: loadkey is not for X keyboard setup. |
| 17:35.00 | itrebal | Zvpun: in that case, |
| 17:35.04 | itrebal | setxkbmap -keymap /usr/share/keymaps/i386/dvorak/dvorak-classic.kmap.gz |
| 17:35.16 | itrebal | outputs `Error locding new keyboard description' |
| 17:35.52 | Zvpun | itrebal: does loadkeys work from a console? |
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| 17:36.25 | itrebal | Zvpun: i have yet to get it to work |
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| 17:36.32 | morphology | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.36 | morphology | totem: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0: undefined symbol: bonobo_activation_get_goption_group |
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| 17:36.54 | morphology | all this because I upgraded libgnome2 from 2.8 to 2.14 |
| 17:37.10 | morphology | is there an issue with 2.14 in the debian repositories? |
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| 17:37.28 | Zvpun | morphology: running etch? |
| 17:37.40 | morphology | yah.. if that's testing |
| 17:38.09 | morphology | I tried apt-get install libgnome2_2.8 -force-downgrade |
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| 17:38.14 | morphology | but that just made things worse |
| 17:38.46 | Zvpun | morphology: I think that packages from Gnome 2.14 dont move in at once. I've got a mixture for several weeks. |
| 17:39.14 | morphology | oh... so once all the 'other packages' are available... I should be good to go |
| 17:39.15 | morphology | ?? |
| 17:39.16 | Mech422 | Anyone know whether zipping/bzipping a tar file provides better compression then tarring already compressed files ?? |
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| 17:39.33 | row | Jul 2 14:34:18 ****** imapd-ssl: LOGOUT, user=***@***, ip=[::ffff:**.**.**.**], headers=201, body=993, rcvd=27202, sent=61300, time=183800, starttls=1 <--- does headers+body+rcvd+sent = total bandwidth used or just rcvd+sent = total bandwidth used on that session? |
| 17:39.41 | Zvpun | morphology: I dont know |
| 17:39.48 | morphology | :-/ |
| 17:39.58 | itrebal | Zvpun: any ideas for trying? |
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| 17:40.06 | Zvpun | morphology: I have libgnome2-0 version 2.14.1-2 and totem 1.2.1-3 totem works for me |
| 17:40.15 | morphology | totem doesn't work for me anylonger |
| 17:40.17 | Zvpun | itrebal: does it work from console? |
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| 17:40.26 | itrebal | Zvpun: pure console, no X? |
| 17:40.39 | trym|work | i386 for xeon? |
| 17:40.56 | Zvpun | Mech422: shouldn't be enough to think about it. Go with the version you like and spend the rest of your day at the beach. |
| 17:41.00 | morphology | and I have totem 1.2.1-3 also |
| 17:41.03 | Zvpun | itrebal: yes. |
| 17:41.12 | itrebal | Zvpun: it does work without X |
| 17:41.55 | Mech422 | Zvpun: ahh - that sorta surprises me. oh well live and learn... |
| 17:42.23 | trym|work | anyone ? |
| 17:42.41 | morphology | Zvpun: should it have made a difference that I did an 'apt-get autoclean' just before apt-get upgraded my libgnome2 ?? |
| 17:43.31 | Zvpun | morphology: I dont think so. |
| 17:43.33 | DoppelGanger | eh eh |
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| 17:43.59 | morphology | lookey who's here.. it's a DoppelGanger |
| 17:44.01 | Zvpun | morphology: what are your package versions of libgnome-2 and totem? |
| 17:44.12 | morphology | totem == 1.2.1-3 |
| 17:44.58 | morphology | libgnome-2 == 2.14..1-2 |
| 17:45.33 | Zvpun | morphology: I dont have libgnome-2 I only have libgnome2-0 |
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| 17:45.44 | Zvpun | $ ls -l /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0.1401.0 |
| 17:45.44 | Zvpun | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 81736 2006-05-08 22:01 /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0.1401.0 |
| 17:46.13 | itrebal | Zvpun: ah! by playing around with a couple programs i found, i got it all working - thanks for the help |
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| 17:46.27 | Zvpun | itrebal: :-) have a nice day! |
| 17:47.08 | Zvpun | itrebal: you may find this helpful: alias aoeu='if [ $DISPLAY ]; then setxkbmap de; else loadkeys de; fi' |
| 17:47.11 | Zvpun | alias asdf='if [ $DISPLAY ]; then setxkbmap dvorak; else loadkeys dvorak; fi' |
| 17:47.24 | morphology | -bash-3.1$ ls -l /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0.1401.0 |
| 17:47.24 | morphology | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 81736 May 8 16:01 /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0.1401.0 |
| 17:47.33 | morphology | looks the same Zvpun |
| 17:47.35 | itrebal | Zvpun: thanks, i'll do so |
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| 17:48.02 | stew | the dvorak7min package comes with asdf and aeou scripts in /usr/share/doc/dvorak7min/examples as well |
| 17:48.03 | Mech422 | Zvpun: thanks for the help |
| 17:48.04 | Mech422 | later all |
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| 17:48.57 | Zvpun | morphology: for my poor point of view it should work. Sorry I cant help you. |
| 17:49.03 | itrebal | Zvpun: i also set one for aoeu, so i can type the first for letters of the home-row nomatter what map i'm under, to switch |
| 17:49.13 | morphology | Zvpun: thanks for the effort anyhow |
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| 17:50.53 | roxy_ | v4l-conf is complaining of no /dev/video0 file. What should have created this file ? |
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| 17:55.32 | dvs | roxy_: are you using udev? |
| 17:56.25 | shishi_geek | hello all |
| 17:56.41 | shishi_geek | someone can help with madwfi and wpasupplicant please ? |
| 17:56.48 | shishi_geek | i use atheros card 5006XS |
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| 17:57.12 | roxy_ | dvs: yes, but I found out I got some driver pb |
| 17:57.26 | Piet | hi! |
| 17:57.27 | Piet | anyone else got "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv"? |
| 17:57.37 | dvs | Piet: lots |
| 17:57.51 | dvs | roxy_: The driver doesn't work |
| 17:57.53 | dvs | ? |
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| 17:58.00 | Piet | dvs: any idea as to what it might cause yet? |
| 17:58.12 | dvs | Piet: It's in the mailing lists |
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| 17:58.16 | roxy_ | dvs: I rebooted in the wrong kernel |
| 17:58.29 | sid | shishi_geek: What versino of debian? |
| 17:58.44 | Barkley | so what should i do with a spare sun ultra2 dual proc? only has 18GB disk space and 2x300CPU....suggestions? |
| 17:58.50 | grummund | hi, any exim experts here? can i prevent exim from generating bounce messages? it is currently bouncing msgs for which local delivery fails but the bounce goes to a 3rd party in the case of spam because of faked headers. |
| 17:58.55 | Piet | dvs: thanks, debian-user ? |
| 17:59.44 | sid | shishi_geek: /join #madwifi |
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| 18:00.19 | shishi_geek | sid: i use sid mirror with svn madwifi driver |
| 18:00.38 | Piet | dvs: I found a bug report on it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=376227 |
| 18:00.42 | shishi_geek | but i am so confuse , cause wpasupplicant change a little |
| 18:01.08 | grummund | shishi_geek: if you want to build madwifi from latest cvs source, i found it simple with kernel 2.6 and impossible with kernel 2.4. hth |
| 18:02.10 | shishi_geek | grummund: yes to build it , ok i have no problem , but to config wpa with it this is the problem |
| 18:02.43 | grummund | shishi_geek: ok. in that case sorry i cannot help. not used wpa yet. |
| 18:02.55 | shishi_geek | ah oki oki |
| 18:02.56 | dvs | Piet: yeah, I couldn't find the original email. Sorry. |
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| 18:04.05 | Piet | dvs: thanks for looking though |
| 18:04.11 | dvs | no prob |
| 18:04.17 | grummund | all the exim experts r out enjoying the sun then. ;p |
| 18:04.25 | Piet | dvs: the problem is that the signature files are broken actually |
| 18:04.32 | Piet | http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/Release.gpg |
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| 18:05.28 | kepht | Piet: it was empty earlier, i still get errors too |
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| 18:06.43 | kepht | Piet: thanks for posting the bug# about it |
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| 18:07.38 | Piet | kepht: it still is empty, but maybe not on all the mirrors |
| 18:08.08 | kepht | i still don't understand what other mirrors there are |
| 18:08.22 | kepht | the FAQ says no mirrors |
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| 18:09.13 | Piet | kepht: i didn't file the bug, only posted it here if that's what you mean |
| 18:09.28 | Kaeles_ | where is the linux documentation stored in debian? |
| 18:09.33 | kepht | Piet: yeah, i know.. |
| 18:09.38 | Kaeles_ | I need to compile ifenslave |
| 18:09.48 | Piet | kepht: there's two servers security.debian.org resolves to for me. |
| 18:09.51 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:09.55 | Kaeles_ | kk thanks |
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| 18:10.36 | kepht | Piet: ah, ok i see 'em |
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| 18:11.49 | mcgreg | when I do "make" will debian choose the latets versiopn of compiler it finds? it I have gcc2+gcc3+gg4 installed, will debian then always use gcc4 when I dont specify anything? |
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| 18:12.02 | azeem | mcgreg: depends on the Makefile |
| 18:12.33 | wols_ | usually it will use whatever gcc points to |
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| 18:12.36 | Kaeles_ | mmm does debian come with ifenslave for channel bonding? |
| 18:12.52 | wols_ | Kaeles_: packages.debian.org knows |
| 18:12.55 | clarity_ | hey, where's the xorg config file? |
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| 18:13.14 | clarity_ | and is there a way to change the res for console? |
| 18:13.46 | kepht | Piet: OK, now gettin somewhere |
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| 18:13.56 | Kaeles_ | thanks |
| 18:13.57 | Kaeles_ | :P |
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| 18:14.03 | kepht | Piet: put 194.109.137.218 in sources and it works ok |
| 18:14.18 | kepht | just a temp fix obviously |
| 18:14.38 | wols_ | clarity_: /etc/console-tools/ |
| 18:14.49 | kepht | and thanks stew for attempting to answer earlier |
| 18:16.19 | clarity_ | wols_ what's the man page for that? |
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| 18:16.36 | Kaeles_ | woot, channel bonding is working now :D |
| 18:16.41 | rstandy | hi |
| 18:16.56 | rstandy | I'm having problems with cups and a Printer |
| 18:16.57 | wols_ | how should I know? the file is commented and line like #SCREEN_FONT=iso01.f16 is pretty clear, no? |
| 18:17.06 | rstandy | it's a parallel port printer |
| 18:17.25 | rstandy | it seems that the parallel port is working |
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| 18:17.55 | rstandy | and so the printer, but sending jobs to the printer trough the cups web interface doesn't work |
| 18:18.54 | rstandy | can someone help? |
| 18:19.03 | Zvpun | rstandy: does printing a test page work? |
| 18:19.20 | rstandy | Zvpun: no, nothing happens |
| 18:19.41 | clarity_ | weird... there's no xorg.conf on my computer |
| 18:19.45 | Zvpun | rstandy: did it ever work ? |
| 18:20.07 | rstandy | Zvpun: yes, not on my Debian though |
| 18:20.22 | ShredZ | if I use the installer and select desktop system, it will install gnome (for etch anyway) right ? How do I get rid of gnome after this install, will just removing 'gnome' get rid of all the unwanted stuff ? |
| 18:20.47 | wols_ | no |
| 18:20.51 | dvs | !tell ShredZ -about remove gnome |
| 18:21.27 | Piet | kepht: none of the mirrors was working before. it has been fixed in the meantime, and now both do work. |
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| 18:21.42 | kepht | in the last 10 minutes? |
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| 18:22.22 | kepht | i bet someone pushed a button somewhere :) |
| 18:22.51 | noizze | Hello, i have a question about the Debain Paket System ....i'm starting to hate it very much and hope someone can change my mind :) |
| 18:23.15 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: I can solve that. apt-get moo |
| 18:23.18 | noizze | I have a new image on my Server with stable/sarge |
| 18:23.25 | rstandy | dmesg says: |
| 18:23.41 | rstandy | parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [PCSPP,TRISTATE] |
| 18:23.42 | rstandy | parport0: irq 7 detected |
| 18:23.42 | rstandy | parport0: Printer, EPSON Stylus COLOR 400 |
| 18:23.42 | rstandy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:23.43 | noizze | I like to install libidn11-dev |
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| 18:24.02 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: Which distribution? |
| 18:24.25 | noizze | But it tells me: libidn11-dev: depends on: libidn11 (= 0.5.13-1.0) aber 0.5.18-1 soll installiert |
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| 18:24.53 | rstandy | sorry for pasting |
| 18:24.57 | noizze | ricky_clarkson: debian sarge |
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| 18:25.18 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: apt-get install libidn11-dev libidn11 |
| 18:25.29 | noizze | I have *only* stable sourcen in my list for apt |
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| 18:26.01 | noizze | ricky_clarkson: same! |
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| 18:26.56 | noizze | The problem is apt-get find only libidn11-dev 0.5.18-1 but libidn11 0.5.13-1.o is installed |
| 18:27.30 | ricky_clarkson | !info libidn11 sarge |
| 18:27.38 | dpkg | libidn11: (GNU libidn library, implementation of IETF IDN specifications), section libs, is standard. Version: 0.5.13-1.0 (sarge), Packaged size: 103 kB, Installed size: 300 kB |
| 18:27.48 | ricky_clarkson | !info libidn11-dev sarge |
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| 18:27.51 | dpkg | libidn11-dev: (Development files GNU libidn, implementation of IETF IDN spec), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 0.5.13-1.0 (sarge), Packaged size: 505 kB, Installed size: 936 kB |
| 18:27.52 | nekromaan | hello, i used the sid installer and everytime appears a msg which say that there are no kernel-modules to install, so im not able to install the system, is there a way to avoid this? |
| 18:28.01 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: sarge does not have 0.5.18. |
| 18:28.16 | Kaeles_ | anyone worked with channel bonding before? |
| 18:28.54 | noizze | ricky_clarkson: Thats confusing, you think my ISP did use some packages from unstable? |
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| 18:29.29 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: I don't see how your ISP is related. |
| 18:30.01 | noizze | ricky_clarkson: Its a VServer |
| 18:30.38 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:31.05 | noizze | Debian Linux powered by [netclusive] |
| 18:31.21 | ricky_clarkson | noizze: Sounds like a halfbreed. |
| 18:31.33 | ricky_clarkson | I'd probably install real Debian in a chroot. |
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| 18:33.59 | robin_sz | meep |
| 18:34.35 | Barkley | so do you need some type of special sync on green adapter to output video from old sun boxes to LCD monitors? |
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| 18:35.03 | dob1 | hi |
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| 18:35.11 | Barkley | it's a creator 3d card...i know the monitor is special in that you can't just plug it into a pc, but going the other way can you slap LCDs on these things? |
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| 18:35.46 | dob1 | there is something like vnc but with encryption? other than tunnelling vnc over ssh |
| 18:36.27 | wols | realvnc and ultravnc have that. dunno if they have linux versions however |
| 18:36.49 | wols | FreeNX has it too afaik |
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| 18:39.31 | Coweater | Barkley: it should work, make sure you get the sun adapter, not one for sgi |
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| 18:40.15 | freeone3000 | Er, anyone else on sid with a nvidia card? I'm having some issues with the site drivers, specificially no GLX. |
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| 18:43.02 | Barkley | so i basically just need to get a sun to vga adapter? |
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| 18:43.20 | Barkley | or does it require some type of powered sync changer doohickey? |
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| 18:44.48 | Yan^ | hello people. I have a strange effect on debian etch while playing dvd s. I have installed libdvdcss2 and win codecs, however the playback is very poor cannot be compared with the Mandrake kaffeine player on the same computer. any idea or advice? |
| 18:45.02 | Barkley | ah nevermind...i found them :D |
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| 18:46.18 | eastwood | Yan^, alsa ? |
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| 18:46.44 | Yan^ | eastwood: what do you mean? alsa does its job. I mean the video quality is bad |
| 18:47.07 | Yan^ | eastwood: the movement is not continuous |
| 18:47.17 | eastwood | i thought you were talking about the sound |
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| 18:47.34 | azeem | Yan^: which player are you using? |
| 18:48.04 | Yan^ | azeem kaffeine |
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| 18:49.13 | MoDaX | Yan^: what's wrong with it? |
| 18:49.24 | ShredZ | Somtehing weird is happening to the etch installer, after grub was installed, the screen keeps reverting to black, white, then shows another progress bar with nog title which runs upto like 33% then same thing happens again... is it safe to press reset ? |
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| 18:50.01 | ShredZ | ow yea, it also ejected the cd automatically before starting this flashing |
| 18:50.19 | Yan^ | modax: the movement is not continuous. the cars for example are movig by small jumps :)) |
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| 18:51.24 | MoDaX | Yan^: is this happening with dvd/dvix/xvid etc.? |
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| 18:52.22 | Yan^ | modax: yes with a dvd disc |
| 18:52.36 | evilbulgarian | hi, why did kernel 2.6.17 break support for the megaraid i4 ide raid card which was in the old megaraid driver? |
| 18:52.37 | norbert_ | hi, I'm trying to edit an AVI-file, but Kino isn't opening it; does anyone know any other programs to edit movies? |
| 18:52.55 | eastwood | nop, i only use kino |
| 18:53.04 | eastwood | try removing the configs |
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| 18:54.38 | trym|work | i386 for xeon? |
| 18:54.46 | Yan^ | modax: what is puzzling is that kaffeine in the Mandriva partition of the same computer plays perfectly, so the videocard is not to bla,e |
| 18:55.03 | MoDaX | norbert_: kdenlive is not bad |
| 18:55.09 | Ox0F0-0FF | ShredZ, try |
| 18:55.14 | MoDaX | norbert_: though not in debian |
| 18:55.17 | Ox0F0-0FF | and tell us if it was safe :) |
| 18:55.23 | ShredZ | it was safe |
| 18:55.26 | ShredZ | ;) |
| 18:55.28 | Ox0F0-0FF | oki |
| 18:55.29 | Ox0F0-0FF | ;) |
| 18:55.31 | norbert_ | MoDaX, okay thanks, I'll try to download it |
| 18:55.41 | Piet | norbert_: try running 'file' on it, it may be using a silly encoding |
| 18:56.09 | norbert_ | Piet: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 352 x 288, 23.98 fps, video:, audio: (stereo, 44100 Hz) |
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| 18:56.14 | MoDaX | Piet: kano won't handle avi's |
| 18:56.34 | ttyfscker | anybody here use frostwire? |
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| 18:56.52 | Piet | MoDaX: i haven't mentioned kano |
| 18:56.55 | ttyfscker | i was just wondering if it was a pretty good p2p client comparted to gtk-gnutella / nicotine |
| 18:57.08 | MoDaX | norbert_: if you want cli, then mencoder, transcode etc. |
| 18:58.14 | cast | thttpd or lighttpd. the million dollar question! |
| 18:58.28 | MoDaX | Yan^: go to settings -> xine engine parameters -> video -> driver. change to xv |
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| 19:02.05 | Yan^ | modax: it says cannot init new video driver xv using auto |
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| 19:04.03 | Yan^ | modax : should I install the driver? |
| 19:04.22 | ricky_clarkson | cast: Toss a coin, make it a one-penny question. |
| 19:04.28 | MoDaX | Yan^: yeah, you should fix xorg configuration |
| 19:04.57 | Yan^ | modax: what should i do with it |
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| 19:05.27 | MoDaX | Yan^: what video card do you have? |
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| 19:05.44 | Yan^ | Intel 915 generic |
| 19:06.01 | MoDaX | Yan^: are you running etch? |
| 19:06.07 | Yan^ | modax yes |
| 19:06.10 | ricky_clarkson | Can I run a Debian system from Windows via vmware or something? |
| 19:06.18 | cast | hmm. thttpd .tar.gz was 133kb, lighttpd was 782kb. i think ill use thttpd :) |
| 19:06.25 | tuv | ricky_clarkson, yes, why not? |
| 19:06.27 | ricky_clarkson | Are there instructions for doing this? I have a Debian system installed already. |
| 19:06.40 | ricky_clarkson | tuv: Mainly because I haven't worked out how yet. |
| 19:06.57 | MoDaX | Yan^: run xvinfo |
| 19:07.03 | tuv | ricky_clarkson, use a debian-installer bootable cd and boot vmware using it |
| 19:07.12 | Barkley | anyone know of a gnome gui for synergy? |
| 19:07.19 | tuv | ricky_clarkson, you can use the iso file on HD |
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| 19:07.33 | Yan^ | modax it says: X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present |
| 19:07.41 | ricky_clarkson | tuv: Do I need a specific 'appliance' for that, or just open the thing with vmware player? |
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| 19:08.08 | mattl | remedy, was i speakin to you earlier? |
| 19:08.10 | Administrator | yo dudes |
| 19:08.13 | MoDaX | Yan^: grep 'Driver' /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:08.19 | tuv | ricky_clarkson, what's vmware player? did you try vmware with anything else before? e.g. windows |
| 19:08.46 | wols | ricky_clarkson: CoLinux |
| 19:08.55 | Administrator | what is going on with apt-get ? It keeps telling me to invoke dpkg-reconfigure -a. I keep inoviking it and it keeps looping me after it's finished |
| 19:09.05 | wols | runs Linux as a Windows service |
| 19:09.09 | Yan^ | modax Driver "kbd" Driver "mouse" Driver "synaptics" Driver "vesa" |
| 19:09.37 | ricky_clarkson | tuv: vmware player is the freely downloadable version of vmware, afaict. |
| 19:09.55 | ricky_clarkson | wols: I'll look at that. |
| 19:09.57 | Barkley | CoLinux runs great |
| 19:10.05 | Barkley | it's a beast to setup...but it's FAST! |
| 19:10.30 | ricky_clarkson | I don't care about speed. |
| 19:10.33 | tuv | ricky_clarkson, there is nothing special about running debian within vmware.. you do it like any other OS. use debian-installer cd image or actual cd and boot from it |
| 19:10.43 | ricky_clarkson | tuv: I've never used it before. |
| 19:10.47 | Barkley | i'm surprised it doesn't get more media coverage...it's really a worthwhile project |
| 19:10.54 | norbert_ | MoDaX, it is in Debian etch |
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| 19:11.01 | MoDaX | Yan^: install xserver-xorg-video-i810 |
| 19:11.03 | ricky_clarkson | tuv: I will be trying that, yes, thanks. |
| 19:11.45 | norbert_ | MoDaX, (kdenlive - A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE) |
| 19:11.49 | norbert_ | ;-) |
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| 19:12.36 | MoDaX | Yan^: then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose i810 when you are asked for video driver. leave other settings unchanged |
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| 19:12.44 | Nazcafan | hi |
| 19:12.48 | MoDaX | !info kdenlive etch |
| 19:13.02 | Yan^ | modax; ok trying |
| 19:13.09 | Nazcafan | I was watching vim testing status and i stepped on that : |
| 19:13.14 | Nazcafan | vim is adding amd64_tpu binaries (no new version) |
| 19:13.24 | Nazcafan | wth is amd64_tpu ? |
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| 19:13.40 | Yan^ | modax: it says xserver-xorg-video-i810 is already the newest version |
| 19:13.47 | Yan^ | recofniguring |
| 19:13.51 | dayi | I have installed apache2 to one of my hosts(10.0.0.3), and I have a zoom X4 adsl modem . I have two PCs connected with a hub. I can connect web server from other hosts . when I try to reach it from anohter host via external ip(84.34.23.33) it connects to modem's internal page(configuration page).I do the forwarding(virtual host) , also installed ssl with apache2 , how can I reach web server |
| 19:14.16 | norbert_ | !info kdenlive etch |
| 19:14.27 | MoDaX | ~info kdenlive etch |
| 19:15.03 | linux2 | can someone help me quickly |
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| 19:15.08 | linux2 | im trying to burn a cd |
| 19:15.11 | linux2 | and it keeps saying |
| 19:15.13 | Nazcafan | !info |
| 19:15.16 | linux2 | "unable to unlock cd" |
| 19:15.19 | linux2 | and then ejects the cd on me |
| 19:15.23 | linux2 | any ideas? |
| 19:15.34 | MoDaX | linux2: what's 'it' ? |
| 19:16.01 | linux2 | k3b |
| 19:16.07 | linux2 | its burning with cdrecord |
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| 19:16.20 | Yan^ | modax: actually I have a customized xserver-xorg and would like to keep it. could u tell me what should I add to the file? |
| 19:16.30 | JohnQ | There seem to be two SATA drivers in 2.6.16 ... whats the difference? which is "better (tm)"? |
| 19:16.42 | MoDaX | Yan^: replace Driver "vesa" with Driver "i810" |
| 19:16.50 | Yan^ | modax: ok trying |
| 19:17.50 | MoDaX | apt: info kdenlive etch |
| 19:17.58 | Yan^ | modax: oh I see, trying |
| 19:18.01 | ShredZ | !ask nvidia-glx |
| 19:18.20 | ShredZ | !info nvidia-glx |
| 19:18.21 | dpkg_ | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8762-2 (sid), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 10608 kB |
| 19:18.32 | cusco | dudes |
| 19:18.39 | tonsofpcs | can someone give me a link to a good thorough howto on backports for deb (sarge) [or take the time to walk me through one]? |
| 19:18.53 | cusco | I have to wifi cards the same model |
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| 19:18.53 | ShredZ | so can I get nvidia-glx in etch using xorg ? |
| 19:18.56 | cusco | both working with madwifi |
| 19:19.09 | MoDaX | !info nvidia-glx testing |
| 19:19.18 | cusco | ath0 is working just perfect but ath1 ... have a couple of errors |
| 19:19.31 | cusco | I don't quite understand |
| 19:19.33 | Barkley | the information on the backport site is good enought to use it without screwing up your sysytem. just make sure you grok how to pin things |
| 19:19.35 | MoDaX | ShredZ: if nvidia-glx is in testing |
| 19:19.38 | Yan^ | modax: ok restarting |
| 19:19.42 | ShredZ | !info nvidia-glx testing |
| 19:20.01 | tonsofpcs | Barkley: all the backport howtos i find are *very* vague |
| 19:20.16 | MoDaX | apt: info nvidia-glx testing |
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| 19:20.27 | Barkley | there's not much too it...that's why |
| 19:20.30 | Barkley | what's your question? |
| 19:20.31 | tuv | ShredZ, you can use nvidia-glx from unstable and build your nvidia kernel module of the same version (using module-assistant is a good idea) |
| 19:20.34 | tonsofpcs | !tell tonsofpcs about backports |
| 19:20.36 | MoDaX | Package 'nvidia-glx' does not exist. |
| 19:21.01 | MoDaX | ShredZ: get nvidia-glx from sid |
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| 19:21.20 | ShredZ | MoDaX, I'd do best to get nvidia-kernel from sid as well then ? |
| 19:21.20 | tonsofpcs | Barkley: i just want a howto that i can follow for one so that i learn how to do it. I tend to learn by doing, not by reading about what it does for 6 hours (I already know what it does) and then guessing until it works |
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| 19:21.35 | MoDaX | ShredZ: yes |
| 19:22.14 | Barkley | when i was trying to figure out backports. i read the site, google'd and found one or two articles explaining pinning with examples, but really see much else |
| 19:22.25 | Barkley | err didn't really see much else |
| 19:23.02 | Administrator | what is going on with apt-get ? It keeps telling me to invoke dpkg-reconfigure -a. I keep inoviking it and it keeps looping me after it's finished HERE IS THE LOG: http://pastebin.ca/77188 |
| 19:23.05 | Barkley | there's no need. it's essentially just a repository + an ability to prioritize particular versions of things |
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| 19:24.44 | MoDaX | Administrator: run dpkg --configure -a |
| 19:24.58 | Administrator | MoDaX, did you read the pastebin url? |
| 19:25.06 | Barkley | tonsofpcs: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=4525 |
| 19:25.12 | tonsofpcs | thanks |
| 19:25.13 | tonsofpcs | brb |
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| 19:25.18 | Administrator | damn idiots |
| 19:25.32 | azeem | Administrator: ah, just wanted to help you |
| 19:25.38 | MoDaX | Administrator: yes, I did |
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| 19:26.05 | MoDaX | Administrator: stop insulting people |
| 19:26.07 | azeem | Administrator: so if you invoke dpkg --configure -a again, you get identical output to the paste? |
| 19:26.19 | tonsofpcs | back |
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| 19:26.41 | ShredZ | MoDaX, so I do apt-get install -t sid nvidia-kernel-2.6-686 and it tells me it's already the newest version. I noticed that the module it installed was for 2.6.16-2-686 while the dependency installed was 2.6.15-1-686 kernel, is it safe to install the 2.6.16 kernel from sid on etch then ? |
| 19:27.20 | MoDaX | ShredZ: 2.6.16 is not in sid anymore |
| 19:27.23 | Administrator | azeem, yes. |
| 19:27.29 | MoDaX | ShredZ: install nvidia-kernel-src |
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| 19:27.41 | MoDaX | ShredZ: and run m-a a-i nvidia |
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| 19:27.52 | vanP3lt | hi |
| 19:28.01 | vanP3lt | could anybody help me for a second ? |
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| 19:28.12 | Yan^ | MoDaX: thanks! it works. still the performance is not so great as on a desktop but at least the movement is correct. I did not kow a good intel driver was available! by the way do you think it can help to get 1400*1050 resolution? |
| 19:28.27 | tonsofpcs | Barkley: I'm not trying to install a package from backports.org, i'm trying to make my own backport |
| 19:28.31 | MoDaX | Yan^: yes |
| 19:28.36 | ShredZ | MoDaX, thanks, this also seems to install the nvidia-glx stuff |
| 19:28.44 | Yan^ | modax: wow! trying |
| 19:28.55 | vanP3lt | does anybody know how to configure lirc right ? |
| 19:28.59 | azeem | Administrator: maybe run dpkg -l and check for partly installed packages |
| 19:29.10 | azeem | Administrator: or do you know which package fails to confiure |
| 19:29.12 | azeem | ? |
| 19:29.20 | ShredZ | MoDaX, I'm new to debian, what's that m-a a-i stand for ? |
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| 19:30.27 | kronoz | m-a is module assistant i believe |
| 19:30.35 | MoDaX | ShredZ: you can run that command running I said. |
| 19:30.45 | Administrator | azeem, just a sec |
| 19:30.47 | MoDaX | ShredZ: you can run that command as I said. |
| 19:30.51 | streuner | !listvals m-a |
| 19:30.57 | dpkg_ | Factoid search of 'm-a' by value (11): alsa 2.4 ;; cmd: m-a (.*?) (.*?) ;; ipw2200 ;; ndiswrapper one-liner ;; upgrade nvidia ;; nvidia-kernel ;; ata ;; nvidia one-liner ;; xanax ;; madwifi-install ;; osx. |
| 19:31.09 | vanP3lt | LIRC |
| 19:31.12 | JohnQ | So... I have a P4... hyperthreading enabled in the bios.. SMP and SMT enabled in the kernel... Why is there only one cpu showing up in /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 19:31.12 | vanP3lt | anyone ? |
| 19:31.13 | MoDaX | ShredZ: it's long name is module-assistant auto-install |
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| 19:31.56 | MoDaX | its* |
| 19:32.23 | Yan^ | modax: hm however it does not want to get the 1400*1050 although it is listed in the xorg.conf. what should I do to make it work in 1400*1050? |
| 19:33.05 | MoDaX | Yan^: paste you xorg.conf to paster |
| 19:33.16 | MoDaX | your* |
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| 19:33.45 | freeone3000 | Er, anyone else on sid with a nvidia card? I'm having some issues with the site drivers, specificially no GLX. |
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| 19:34.08 | MoDaX | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:34.08 | dpkg_ | [nvidia one-liner] update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 19:34.19 | Yan^ | modax I am sorry where is paster? pastebin? i ave no idea |
| 19:34.30 | MoDaX | !paster |
| 19:34.31 | dpkg_ | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 19:35.33 | Yan^ | http://pastebin.ca/77204 |
| 19:36.14 | ZoFreX | I'm using the latest gcc available on apt-get and it segfaults - what should I do? |
| 19:36.32 | MoDaX | Yan^: what resolution have you got now? |
| 19:36.37 | freeone3000 | MoDaX: I'm not using the nvidia-glx (Free) drivers because they don't offer good enough preformance to run the stuff I need glx for. (EL needs OpenGL 1.5, they offer 1.4) |
| 19:36.38 | Yan^ | 1280*1024 |
| 19:37.16 | MoDaX | freeone3000: nvidia-glx is nonfree |
| 19:37.42 | MoDaX | freeone3000: which is the only way to get glx |
| 19:37.42 | freeone3000 | MoDaX: ...THen why doesn't it offer as good preformance as the site drivers do? |
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| 19:38.21 | MoDaX | freeone3000: maybe because you haven't installed them properly? |
| 19:38.29 | freeone3000 | I did that one-liner. |
| 19:38.55 | MoDaX | freeone3000: grep 'Driver' /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:39.17 | freeone3000 | driver "nvidia" |
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| 19:39.53 | MoDaX | freeone3000: glxinfo |
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| 19:40.23 | MoDaX | Yan^: you will need to google. your res is not autodetected |
| 19:40.25 | freeone3000 | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". over and over. I'm not currently running them. Should I reinstall them? |
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| 19:40.42 | Yan^ | modax ok |
| 19:41.12 | MoDaX | freeone3000: dmesg | grep NVIDIA |
| 19:41.51 | freeone3000 | 'nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.' and then a successful load message. |
| 19:42.08 | MoDaX | freeone3000: good. so do you have nvidia-glx installed? |
| 19:42.20 | freeone3000 | No... Should I? |
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| 19:42.33 | MoDaX | freeone3000: yes, it's essential |
| 19:42.42 | freeone3000 | Alrighty. Installing... |
| 19:43.30 | MoDaX | freeone3000: try now glxinfo |
| 19:43.46 | roxy_ | I rebooted and got no sound anymore. When doing alsamixer I only get only a black screen . |
| 19:44.03 | freeone3000 | It's still downloading... |
| 19:44.19 | tonsofpcs | hmm, where does sarge store it's fonts for x? |
| 19:44.52 | ricky_clarkson | roxy_: /etc/init.d/alsa start |
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| 19:45.14 | Ekrem | how to learn kernel versiyon ? |
| 19:45.17 | MoDaX | tonsofpcs: look at the begging of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file |
| 19:45.23 | tonsofpcs | thx |
| 19:45.27 | MoDaX | begining* |
| 19:45.29 | tonsofpcs | Ekrem: cat /proc/version |
| 19:45.35 | tonsofpcs | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 |
| 19:45.35 | ricky_clarkson | Ekrem: uname -r |
| 19:46.37 | Ekrem | tnaks |
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| 19:47.51 | roxy_ | ricky_clarkson: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DzMooo96.html , same result |
| 19:48.35 | MoDaX | roxy_: unmute channels |
| 19:49.38 | roxy_ | MoDaX: how can I unmute channels without alsamixer |
| 19:49.49 | MoDaX | roxy_: kmix? |
| 19:50.49 | wweasel | Hey everybody, I have a problem that is rather serious. I can't boot up into Linux, and after a few steps I found out that my superblock is corrupt. Can I recover/resurrect it? |
| 19:51.45 | roxy_ | ricky_clarkson: I don't have /proc/asound/cards anymore. When alsamixer was working I use to have that |
| 19:52.07 | MoDaX | roxy_: reboot once again |
| 19:52.08 | ricky_clarkson | roxy_: alsaconf |
| 19:52.33 | ricky_clarkson | roxy_: Do you have /proc at all? |
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| 19:52.39 | ricky_clarkson | /proc/* |
| 19:52.47 | freeone3000 | MoDaX: Without an X restart, it's still "No glx on display ":0.0"" |
| 19:53.02 | MoDaX | freeone3000: restart X then |
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| 19:55.16 | freeone3000 | That worked, thanks. |
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| 19:55.30 | vanP3lt | could anybody help me for a second ??? please |
| 19:55.37 | MoDaX | !ask |
| 19:55.42 | dpkg_ | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:55.48 | roxy_ | ricky_clarkson: before doing alsaconf I had /proc/asound/ but not anymore, after doing alsaconf, don't have any snd driver loaded either. |
| 19:55.56 | vanP3lt | configuring irda with lirc on a HP XT1000 |
| 19:56.00 | vanP3lt | it wont work |
| 19:56.15 | vanP3lt | and i have to get it to work fast ! |
| 19:56.29 | vanP3lt | please |
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| 19:56.49 | vanP3lt | i couldn't find anything on google |
| 19:57.00 | MoDaX | vanP3lt: are you sure it's supported? |
| 19:57.33 | ice_1963 | dpkg must have gone home :) |
| 19:57.50 | roxy_ | MoDaX: reboot is the first thing I did but it didn't help :-) |
| 19:58.06 | vanP3lt | i found someone on the net, having successfully installed it on the same notebook with the same kernel |
| 19:58.06 | MoDaX | vanP3lt: I have no expierience with irda so I can't help |
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| 19:58.28 | vanP3lt | so thanks anyway |
| 19:58.34 | vanP3lt | anybody else ? |
| 19:58.39 | Mitja | How can several instances of totem or kaffeine be opened at the same time? |
| 19:58.58 | wweasel | Hey everybody, I have a problem that is rather serious. I can't boot up into Linux, and after a few steps I found out that my superblock is corrupt. Can I recover/resurrect it? I am using ext3. |
| 19:59.00 | MoDaX | roxy_: what do you have in /etc/modules now? |
| 19:59.17 | MoDaX | wweasel: reformat |
| 19:59.33 | roxy_ | MoDaX: I don't have /etc/modules |
| 20:00.16 | MoDaX | roxy_: lsmod | grep snd. anything listed? |
| 20:00.25 | wweasel | MoDaX: Reformatting would work...any way without losing my data? Just fixing it? |
| 20:00.25 | roxy_ | MoDaX: no |
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| 20:01.05 | roxy_ | wweasel: do you have knoppix or something like that ? |
| 20:01.30 | wweasel | roxy_ yes. I have a multitude of Live CDs, including knoppix. |
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| 20:01.40 | MoDaX | roxy_: you did that /etc/init.d/alsa start . it seems that didn't work so I recommend you restart now and come back |
| 20:02.47 | roxy_ | wweasel: can't you boot one and repair you partition |
| 20:02.48 | MoDaX | wweasel: superblocks are saved in a few more places all over a partition. try fsck'ing the partiton |
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| 20:04.16 | wweasel | roxy_, MoDaX: That was one of the first things I did. I ran fsck and it told me a long paragraph that basically said my superblock is corrupt, try "e2fsck -b 8193 <device>", I did and it gave me the same message |
| 20:04.40 | roxy_ | MoDaX, ricky_clarkson: found the problem , I gave a wrong answer to alsaconf, it is working now |
| 20:05.09 | roxy_ | ricky_clarkson: do you know why, suddenly I would need to run alsaconf when before everything worked fine |
| 20:05.31 | ricky_clarkson | roxy_: Probably you changed something, e.g., kernel. |
| 20:05.33 | roxy_ | wweasel: sorry, I don't have the knowledge to help you |
| 20:05.35 | MoDaX | wweasel: how did the superblock get corrupted? what did you do? |
| 20:05.54 | wweasel | roxy_: thanks for trying. good luck with your problem :) |
| 20:06.00 | roxy_ | :-) |
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| 20:07.09 | JohnQ | anyone using HT + SMP + SMT ? |
| 20:07.29 | wweasel | MoDaX: To be honest, I can't isolate exactly how. I resized and repartitioned my hard drive, I reinstalled windows, restored grub, then booted into Linux. It worked perfectly, restarted, configured Windows, tried to boot Linux and I got the error message. I don't know what could have changed. |
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| 20:08.41 | user- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.03 | MoDaX | wweasel: windows screwed up your partition table. or partition numbers might have changed |
| 20:09.35 | zinosat | which channel would be appropriate for asking about debian on macbook? |
| 20:09.47 | blondie | zinosat: this one? |
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| 20:10.30 | wweasel | MoDaX: I know partition numbers haven't changed, I am in a live CD right now and I ran "fdisk -lu" as su. My Linux partition is still the same. |
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| 20:11.01 | Mitja | How do I get multiple instances of totem running at the same time? |
| 20:11.16 | zinosat | ok. I installed debian on a partition but have problems with refit.don't know how to run gptsync |
| 20:11.18 | maikol | alright, so i have the nvidia module running, but when i try to get xorg to use it it says that it doesnt exist and that glx cant load. any suggestions? |
| 20:11.57 | MoDaX | wweasel: hmm, the start of the ext3 partition has been moved. dunno what else could be. either way, you have a hard time recovering your data |
| 20:12.14 | MoDaX | you will have* |
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| 20:13.11 | spiral | hello |
| 20:13.36 | MoDaX | wweasel: write a c program and search for ext3 magic. this way you could find a superblock |
| 20:13.41 | Meaw | tc qdisc was working fine in kernel 2.4.x but not working in kernel 2.6 |
| 20:14.28 | wweasel | MoDaX: Could you clarify? I don't know how to program in C. What is ext3 magic? I really appreciate you helping me. |
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| 20:16.28 | hid3 | How can I install `switch` command on my system? |
| 20:17.01 | nile | what do you mean by switch command? |
| 20:17.16 | cahoot | hid3: gtk-theme-switch(2)? |
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| 20:18.52 | JohnQ | help! .. trying to enable HT support in the kernel.. I know HT needs ACPI.. but if I enable SMP, it wont let me select ACPI.. whats doing on? |
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| 20:19.36 | MoDaX | wweasel: sorry, I don't have time to write that program for you now. magic is a sequence of bytes which every ext3 superblock has |
| 20:19.49 | stew | JohnQ: what are you compiling your own kernel instead of just apt-getting one? |
| 20:20.05 | JohnQ | yes |
| 20:20.11 | mattl | does anyone know which GStreamer plugins I need to decode 'MPEG-4 audio'? |
| 20:20.15 | JohnQ | please dont ask why... I just need to. |
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| 20:20.37 | wweasel | MoDaX: Is there not some version of a program that will do something equivalent available on the internet? |
| 20:21.20 | MoDaX | wweasel: dunno. try googling |
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| 20:32.23 | nile | Tsop, how's it going? |
| 20:32.35 | Tsop | good man how are you |
| 20:32.35 | dpkg_ | peachy, Tsop |
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| 20:33.51 | Tsop | i can't get the other box to get to the internet |
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| 20:34.33 | Eureka | any prog to monitor bandwidth per IP, ??? |
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| 20:36.27 | Tsop | nile, can u help me |
| 20:37.15 | nile | Tsop, with the wireless card? didn't you say it has worked under debian before? |
| 20:38.33 | Tsop | nile, yeah but not this new system and i forgot what i did last time to get it to work |
| 20:39.29 | Tsop | when i ping my gatway i get unreachable host |
| 20:40.10 | nile | run 'iwconfig' |
| 20:40.34 | Tsop | command not found |
| 20:40.37 | Tsop | !!! |
| 20:40.38 | dpkg_ | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 20:40.43 | tonsofpcs | Tsop: are yo uroot? |
| 20:40.48 | Tsop | yes |
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| 20:41.29 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 20:41.53 | nile | Tsop, install wireless-tools |
| 20:42.24 | Mazingaro | please, I've got dvdrw as master and a dvd as slave, there's no special file entry in /dev for the slave (udev unstable) |
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| 20:42.35 | Tsop | how will i do that , i only have the cd |
| 20:43.06 | nile | Tsop, there isn't an ethernet port on your machine? :( |
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| 20:44.26 | Tsop | i do have one but the router is upstaris |
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| 20:46.39 | nile | Tsop, try installing it - it *might* be on the CD |
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| 20:46.53 | Tsop | how will i do that |
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| 20:47.26 | spiral | does anyone here know wether the situation with kernel 2.6.17 packages in sid has been reported ? |
| 20:47.35 | stew | spiral: /msg dpkg bts |
| 20:47.40 | azeem | spiral: whcih situation? |
| 20:47.52 | Ben` | how can I remove all the packages which I've installed? |
| 20:47.57 | Tsop | i did /etc/network/interface |
| 20:47.57 | nile | Tsop, huh? the package might be on the CD. do you have a line in /etc/apt/sources.list for your CD? |
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| 20:48.20 | Tsop | and there is iface eth0 inet static |
| 20:48.21 | spiral | azeem: I can't get the kernel-headers-k7 to get installed because of deps problems |
| 20:48.30 | azeem | spiral: that one is known, yes |
| 20:48.44 | nile | Tsop, that's for the ethernet connection |
| 20:48.46 | spiral | azeem: all right :-)... hope it will soon be fixed :-) |
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| 20:48.50 | azeem | Ben`: I think aptitude keeps track of which packages you have installed and which were automatically installed, if you mean that |
| 20:49.04 | azeem | dunno how you could make it remove them all, though |
| 20:49.13 | Tsop | it has an address which i set in the installation |
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| 20:49.38 | Tsop | brb |
| 20:49.50 | Can_34 | hello all |
| 20:49.55 | Can_34 | how are you |
| 20:49.55 | dpkg_ | Can_34: mas o menos |
| 20:49.59 | Ben` | azeem, thanks, I'll look into it |
| 20:50.08 | Can_34 | do you speak turkish ? |
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| 20:50.31 | Can_34 | fuck you |
| 20:50.41 | Can_34 | i'm hacker |
| 20:50.43 | Can_34 | gas.84@hotmail.com msn |
| 20:50.45 | Can_34 | fuck you |
| 20:50.53 | nile | Can_34, calm down |
| 20:50.58 | Can_34 | i'm msn gas.84@hotmail.com |
| 20:51.06 | Can_34 | cracker |
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| 20:51.49 | nefertum | ? |
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| 20:53.58 | Thanatermesis | any person has a problem on debian etch (2.6.15) ripping a CD of audio using cdda2wav ? (with cdparanoia it works) |
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| 20:56.02 | Blissex | Thanatermesis: probably someone called <Thanatermesis> :-) |
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| 20:57.34 | clarity_ | hey how do you change the res on xorg in debian? |
| 20:57.34 | nix4me | is 10mb speed accross my lan about normal speed for a 100mbit network? im gettin 10mb with nfs, smb, and http |
| 20:57.34 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
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| 20:57.55 | wols | yes, sorta normal |
| 20:58.14 | nix4me | lol, sorta? |
| 20:58.28 | wols | depending on NIC I#ve seen more and I've seen less |
| 20:58.36 | wols | so yes, sorta normal. Nothing is set in stone here |
| 20:58.48 | nix4me | ok |
| 20:58.54 | wols | and 12,5MB/s is max anyways |
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| 20:59.07 | wols | usually SMB is slower than others however |
| 20:59.08 | eastwood | clarity_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --priority=low |
| 20:59.20 | nix4me | yeah, i rounded up a lil on the smb |
| 20:59.24 | nix4me | i saw about 8.5 |
| 21:00.44 | clarity_ | where's the config file located? |
| 21:00.47 | clarity_ | for xorg? |
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| 21:01.09 | ktwilight | here -> /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 21:01.44 | clarity_ | that file doesn't exist |
| 21:02.06 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 21:02.15 | ktwilight | are you sure yo have xorg? |
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| 21:02.20 | clarity_ | yup |
| 21:02.25 | clarity_ | I'm running it now |
| 21:02.31 | ktwilight | ... |
| 21:02.33 | clarity_ | it's really weird |
| 21:02.33 | wols | what flavour of debian are you running? |
| 21:02.45 | ktwilight | do locate xorg.conf? |
| 21:02.45 | clarity_ | Linux debian 2.6.16-2-686-smp #1 SMP Wed Jun 21 18:08:31 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:02.48 | clarity_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.51 | clarity_ | it's sarge |
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| 21:02.59 | wols | then you don't have xorg |
| 21:03.06 | nix4me | sarge is not xorg |
| 21:03.10 | wols | you run xfree86 |
| 21:03.12 | ktwilight | hm... |
| 21:03.13 | stoned | man |
| 21:03.21 | ktwilight | stoned again stoned? :) |
| 21:03.23 | stoned | I have no idea why people make things to be so fucking difficult |
| 21:03.25 | clarity_ | debian:~# locate xorg.conf |
| 21:03.28 | clarity_ | hm |
| 21:03.31 | stoned | it is TRIVIAL to burn video dvds in linux |
| 21:03.33 | clarity_ | I installed xorg |
| 21:03.45 | stoned | wols, thanks a lot for your help earlier |
| 21:03.56 | wols | either you run sarge or you xorg. you cannot do both at the same time. just not possible |
| 21:04.01 | stew | wols: /topic |
| 21:04.14 | clarity_ | when I installed sarge I didn't install x11 |
| 21:04.18 | clarity_ | after that I installed xorg |
| 21:04.22 | stew | clarity_: what version does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg" report? |
| 21:04.35 | wols | stew: hm? |
| 21:04.42 | stoned | basically, using ffmpeg to encode a dvd .vob file, and then use k3b to put that into Video_TS and burn the damn thing |
| 21:04.48 | ktwilight | wols -> /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 21:04.50 | stew | wols: there are instructions for running xorg on sarge in the /topic |
| 21:05.02 | moshii | stoned or use growisofs |
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| 21:05.16 | clarity_ | 7.0.20 |
| 21:05.30 | ktwilight | odd.. |
| 21:05.34 | stew | clarity_: /msg dpkg xorgmd5 |
| 21:05.36 | stoned | moshii, hmm, dunno what it is but soon as I finish my pot pie i'll look at it |
| 21:05.59 | stew | clarity_: make sure the md5 matches, then run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 21:06.00 | malcster | could anyone talk me through setting up x.org with an ati x800 graphics card? I had a guide which seemed to be going reasonably but it says do stuff with a program called aticonfig, which I don't have |
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| 21:06.09 | malcster | I have installed xorg-driver-fglrx |
| 21:06.09 | moshii | stoned well, k3b is using growisofs to burn the dvd, it's pretty easy to do it directly though |
| 21:06.27 | stoned | well then i'm fine with k3b :) |
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| 21:06.43 | malcster | and configured the x server to use fglrx, but for some reason after running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf is blank |
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| 21:07.00 | stew | malcster: do you need 3d support? |
| 21:07.23 | malcster | wouldn't mind it. but previous experience has the 2d support not working |
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| 21:07.50 | malcster | I had a working x configuration on this hardware ages ago but I formatted a while back. can't remember what I did differently before, but clearly something |
| 21:07.53 | stew | malcster: what version was your previous experience with? "man radeon" seems to indicate that an x800 would be supported by the free driver |
| 21:07.55 | Dobe | After I did a halt on my debian machine I cannot boot it anymore. It boots into a busybox # upon boot I get things like cannot mount /dev/root and cannot read /etc/fstab. Anyone have a clue what happened??? :( |
| 21:08.05 | DerJamster | I've only got it to run in sid. is the fglrx-driver package in testing by now? |
| 21:08.21 | moshii | Dobe kernel upgrade? |
| 21:08.29 | Dobe | nope |
| 21:08.30 | stew | malcster: if you don't have a xorg.conf, "touch xorg.conf" then /msg dpkg xorgmd5 |
| 21:08.31 | malcster | couldn't say about the last version.. not too long ago, i've only had this comp for about 6 months |
| 21:08.32 | Dobe | simple halt |
| 21:08.37 | Dobe | and then tried to start up again |
| 21:08.44 | malcster | stew: I have an xorg.conf but it is blank |
| 21:08.48 | Dobe | I have not done a kernel updgrade |
| 21:08.53 | Kobaz | i just upraded xorg on debian unstable and now i only have one x font: vga. The font paths in the config look fine but for some reason their not being loaded, anyone know whats the dilly? |
| 21:09.08 | malcster | and remains so after the reconfiguration which I would expect to write things to it |
| 21:09.12 | moshii | Dobe I've had that on a bunch of machines, on kernel upgrades the ide-disk module isn't put in the initrd image |
| 21:09.19 | DerJamster | Kobaz: weirdness. font paths are /usr/share/fonts? |
| 21:09.22 | Dobe | moshii: should I try a kernel upgrade? and if so how can I boot into it now? |
| 21:09.30 | Kobaz | DerJamster: yeap |
| 21:09.36 | DerJamster | Should work then. weird. |
| 21:09.43 | Dobe | moshii: ah well the kernel wasn't updated in this case |
| 21:09.44 | moshii | Dobe when it pukes on boot it should drop into a rescue console after a bit |
| 21:09.45 | Dobe | :( |
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| 21:09.53 | Kobaz | DerJamster: FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" |
| 21:09.54 | Kobaz | etc |
| 21:10.02 | DerJamster | yeah. |
| 21:10.07 | Dobe | moshii: it does it goes into a busybox shell |
| 21:10.08 | Kobaz | and the fonts are indeed still there |
| 21:10.12 | Dobe | what can I do from there? |
| 21:10.18 | DerJamster | Kobaz: run an update-fonts |
| 21:10.22 | moshii | Dobe modprobe ide-disk |
| 21:10.37 | Kobaz | DerJamster: xlsfonts reports one font |
| 21:10.41 | moshii | Dobe mount /dev/hda1 /root |
| 21:10.50 | DerJamster | Kobaz: as..well, I don't use a font server :> |
| 21:10.53 | Kobaz | DerJamster: i dont have an update-fonts, but i have update-fonts-alias update-fonts-dir |
| 21:10.54 | DerJamster | s/as/ah |
| 21:11.09 | moshii | Dobe chroot /root ... then fix the initrd config and force it to update the images |
| 21:11.10 | stoned | man |
| 21:11.14 | stoned | thats one helluva typo |
| 21:11.16 | DerJamster | Kobaz: yeah. run those on the dirs. But like I said, I don't use a font server. |
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| 21:11.18 | stoned | s is like way aways from h |
| 21:11.22 | stoned | hehe |
| 21:11.26 | DerJamster | stoned: pfffff ;P |
| 21:11.27 | ru | Hi guys |
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| 21:11.38 | ru | I have a macbook pro, and I managed to get linux installed on it |
| 21:11.45 | Kobaz | DerJamster: well i tried using the font server, but i commented it out, i have no idea how vga is getting found since it's not in a path that is in the xorg config |
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| 21:12.00 | ru | im trying to get my isight webcam working |
| 21:12.01 | stoned | ru, I also installed sarge on powerbook 3400c book |
| 21:12.06 | ru | but dont really know what to do |
| 21:12.08 | Tsop | i have a wireless keyboad and when ever i stat to type it see " keyboard :unknown scan code e059" |
| 21:12.20 | stoned | ru, I would also suggest #debian-ppc |
| 21:12.35 | ru | what does ppc stand for? |
| 21:12.40 | DerJamster | PowerPc |
| 21:12.41 | Kobaz | DerJamster: do i need to restart x after the update fonts? |
| 21:12.49 | DerJamster | Kobaz: ah..I think so, yes. |
| 21:13.09 | Kobaz | no dice |
| 21:13.13 | Dobe | moshii: ok thanks I will try that |
| 21:13.28 | clarity_ | hmm the dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server doesn't set the resolution |
| 21:13.35 | stoned | ru, and I do not own a webcam, but that channel is ppc specialty of debian, they will more than likely be able to help you |
| 21:13.38 | Kobaz | budder {~} kobaz$ xfontsel |
| 21:13.38 | Kobaz | X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) |
| 21:13.42 | stoned | and my grammar is horrible, pretend I can speak english |
| 21:13.58 | Kobaz | dont even have the normal x fonts |
| 21:14.13 | ru | ta |
| 21:14.30 | Tsop | ru, personal pocket computer |
| 21:14.40 | stew | malcster: /msg dpkg xorgmd5 |
| 21:15.01 | ricky_clarkson | How can I see all detected hard drives? |
| 21:15.09 | malcster | I did that but I'm using bitchx for the first time ever, I suspect I am missing the way to look at private messages I receive |
| 21:15.12 | stoned | fdisk -l |
| 21:15.23 | ru | aah |
| 21:15.36 | stew | malcster: oh, /msg dpkg_ xorgmd5 |
| 21:16.03 | stew | @xorgmd5 |
| 21:16.08 | stew | dpkg_: xorgmd5 |
| 21:16.49 | malcster | hmm, still not getting anything, and I just identified to nickserv. before i got a message saying pms from unregistered users are blocked, now I get nothing.. |
| 21:16.54 | ricky_clarkson | malcster: Maybe join #debian-bots and talk to the bots in there. |
| 21:17.01 | stew | malcster: yeah the bot is down, http://dpkg.vireo.org/xorgmd5 |
| 21:17.08 | malcster | ok cheers |
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| 21:18.30 | Kobaz | DerJamster: vga is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc and that seems to be the only dir being read, i put in another font into that dir, did an update, and now i have that font as well, any idea why only one dir would be read? |
| 21:18.46 | Kobaz | DerJamster: and not just only one dir, but not even any dir in the font path |
| 21:18.58 | DerJamster | um..no idea |
| 21:19.02 | Kobaz | heh |
| 21:19.03 | cyberstorm | I'm using debian testing and I'd like to upgrade Xorg from 6.9.0 |
| 21:19.03 | Kobaz | dang |
| 21:19.05 | berndX | hi, everytime when i saved a file with "VIM" i get a copy with a "~" can i disable this ? |
| 21:19.12 | cyberstorm | synaptic says I have to remove gnome |
| 21:19.18 | cyberstorm | is it necessary?? |
| 21:19.31 | cyberstorm | upgrade to 7.0 |
| 21:20.46 | ktwilight | not sure cyberstorm, but it would be wise to read this first, if you haven't. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 21:21.05 | DerJamster | berndX: that copy should only stay as long as the file is opened in Vim |
| 21:21.23 | wols | cyberstorm: where did you get your xorg 7.0 debs? |
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| 21:21.44 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 21:21.46 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 21:21.52 | stoned | stew, can use /msg apt blah for the time being? |
| 21:22.05 | stoned | nm |
| 21:22.19 | stew | stoned: yes, but her factoids aren't always up to date |
| 21:22.21 | cyberstorm | wois xorg 7.0is coming from the official debian repository |
| 21:22.22 | stew | ~xorgmd5 |
| 21:22.25 | stoned | ah I see |
| 21:22.26 | stew | for instance |
| 21:22.38 | stoned | its slow too |
| 21:22.42 | berndX | DerJamster, unfortunately after cosing also |
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| 21:22.43 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew) |
| 21:22.51 | stew | &xorgmd5 |
| 21:23.07 | stoned | argh! is the word :) |
| 21:23.30 | stoned | azeem in arabic means Great |
| 21:23.34 | ricky_clarkson | aptitude moo |
| 21:23.34 | aptitude | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:23.39 | stoned | just a random fact :D |
| 21:23.43 | azeem | stoned: great |
| 21:24.18 | stew | hmm, short addressing isn't working, but oh well, at least the factoids are up to date as of this morning |
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| 21:28.46 | Eulex | dpkg is dead again? |
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| 21:29.43 | azeem | dpkg is dead, long live aptitude |
| 21:30.12 | Eulex | :o) |
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| 21:32.36 | karsten | Any factoids on marillat key issues? |
| 21:32.53 | stew | karsten: /msg aptitude marillat key |
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| 21:34.01 | karsten | stew: danke. |
| 21:35.10 | karsten | stew: Hrm. Not quite a solution |
| 21:35.30 | kreg_work | i wanted to make a tftp server for some cable modems, how do i make the conifguration filename.cm files? |
| 21:36.20 | karsten | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3029 |
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| 21:38.29 | stew | karsten: "/msg aptitude marillat" it moved off nerim.net |
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| 21:39.32 | eastwood | is gnome-session equivalent to kdestart ? |
| 21:39.57 | ShredZ | startkde yes |
| 21:40.25 | eastwood | i meant the command |
| 21:40.35 | eastwood | its for a xgl script |
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| 21:40.57 | ShredZ | gnome-session = startkde as in they both start the relative desktop environment yes |
| 21:41.56 | geemark | after installing a tv capture device, what is the easiest way to test if it works? |
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| 21:47.07 | eastwood | what package is gnome-window-decorator |
| 21:47.16 | eastwood | or which 1 contains it? |
| 21:47.46 | beardy | !tell eastwood about search |
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| 21:48.26 | yang | is there a channel dedicated to debian translations? |
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| 21:49.17 | azeem | yang: #debian-i18n on irc.debian.org I believe |
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| 21:50.04 | yang | thanks |
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| 21:50.20 | ShredZ | I pressed delete on a file on the desktop and right after that, the system froze, now upon restart it keeps hanging at waiting for root filesystem and just sits there |
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| 21:53.01 | ShredZ | when I boot with a live CD I can mount this volume and it appears to be correct. Anyone know what's going on ? |
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| 21:53.34 | beardy | ShredZ: Yes, you broke it. WHich file did you delete, and why? |
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| 21:54.12 | ShredZ | beardy, it was a tar.gz file containing a game. I installed it, and wanted to delete the tar file |
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| 21:54.56 | ferguscan | When I attempt to run my xorg at 1440x900 (via driver), it complains with "horizontal sync too wide". Yet it happily runs at 1600x1200. What gives? |
| 21:55.50 | ShredZ | beardy, when I run reiserfsck on the partition from a liveCD it says there's no problem with the partition at all |
| 21:55.50 | beardy | ShredZ: If you only did what you say you did, that has no relevance to the box freezing and panicing. You must have done something more. What game was that, and where did you install it? |
| 21:55.59 | beardy | reiser? haha.. |
| 21:56.15 | ShredZ | beardy, it's warsow, I just untarred it in /opt/warsow |
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| 21:56.27 | beardy | !ricer |
| 21:56.27 | dpkg_ | [ricer] at gentoo |
| 21:56.36 | beardy | !reiser |
| 21:56.37 | dpkg_ | reiserfs is probably a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
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| 21:57.03 | ShredZ | beardy, yes it has broken with me on nvidia drivers before, but then the whole drive content was scrambled and I haven't had any problems with this in 3 years of gentoo and nvidia use since :s |
| 21:57.36 | ShredZ | still, if it mounts from a liveCD what could be the problem ? |
| 21:58.13 | beardy | ShredZ: WHich version of Debian are you running? |
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| 21:58.49 | ShredZ | beardy, etch, I installed the net installer 3 hours ago and the install was done and I was being quite happy with the new system |
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| 21:59.15 | beardy | ShredZ: WHy on earth are you using reiserfs? |
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| 21:59.42 | ShredZ | beardy, because I am quite happy with it on my gentoo system as it's quite speedy like you pointed out |
| 22:00.01 | beardy | ShredZ: What I pointed out was that it was crap, and crashes. |
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| 22:00.10 | MasterMedic | hello |
| 22:00.10 | ShredZ | I was being ironic |
| 22:00.40 | MasterMedic | i have a setup like this: internet --> debian sid box --> usbToEthernet --> fedora core 4 box |
| 22:00.49 | MasterMedic | i want the internet to work on both the debian and fc4 box |
| 22:00.57 | MasterMedic | but right now its only working on the debian box |
| 22:01.01 | MasterMedic | can someone help? |
| 22:02.08 | ShredZ | beardy, you don't have any idea how I can get this to work in debian again ? |
| 22:02.59 | beardy | ShredZ: If it's the filesystem, fsck it, otherwise no, not really. |
| 22:03.27 | ShredZ | beardy, I just ran reiserfsck and it said no corruption found :/ |
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| 22:04.40 | kimo | I'm after a Linux based network appliance (Firewall, proxy, IDS, bandwidth shaping, ...) any suggestions ? |
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| 22:05.10 | keithlard_ | hi :) |
| 22:05.24 | beardy | kimo: a 486 and up (with some RAM) and the netinstaller. |
| 22:06.22 | azeem | kimo: or one of those mips based WLAN routers or NAS devices which can run Linux |
| 22:07.05 | kimo | sorry, I was not clear (non native). I plan to run this on a PentiumII PC, I'm after a good Linux distro for such purposes |
| 22:07.17 | beardy | ... |
| 22:07.24 | beardy | kimo: Take a guess. |
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| 22:07.40 | kimo | I'm looking at smoothwall |
| 22:07.45 | Meaw | well. htb , tc qdisc isnt working after i upgrade to kernel 2.6.x , is there any kernel modules should i enable? |
| 22:07.47 | beardy | kimo: WRONG |
| 22:07.52 | kimo | wanna know if anything else is worth a look |
| 22:07.58 | beardy | Please try again. |
| 22:08.04 | azeem | kimo: this channel is for Debian support, not general distro recommendations |
| 22:08.08 | azeem | kimo: maybe ask ##linux |
| 22:08.16 | beardy | kimo: You are in Debian. What azeem said. |
| 22:08.27 | kimo | oops, sorry guys |
| 22:08.27 | beardy | s/Debian/#debian/ |
| 22:08.42 | keithlard_ | hmm, a quick question: i did an apt-get upgrade against testing, and all of a sudden i'm not seeing any image thumbnails in nautilus or gthumb. i think i broke something in Gnome, any suggestions as to where to start looking? |
| 22:09.07 | beardy | kimo: I run Debian on my "firewall/and some other things box" a P233. |
| 22:09.32 | kimo | beardy: do u configure stuff like bandwidth shaping manually ? |
| 22:09.48 | kimo | beardy: I guess it would be too tough |
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| 22:09.56 | beardy | kimo: No, I don't care about that. BUt if you want to, of course you can. |
| 22:10.02 | ShredZ | beardy, I waited it out at the waiting for root filesystem and now it complains about /dev/hdb2 not existing, so it seems more like a dev problem then the drive as the gentoo liveCD does know it's there |
| 22:10.32 | beardy | ShredZ: Maybe some udev trouble? |
| 22:10.59 | ShredZ | beardy, should be, can this be reset or something ? |
| 22:11.11 | beardy | kimo: IIRC one such thing is called wondershaper, but their is probably many more. |
| 22:11.20 | nkuttler | keithlard_: bugs.debian.org. mv ~/.gconf* and ~/.gnome* somewhere else |
| 22:11.21 | beardy | there |
| 22:11.47 | ShredZ | beardy, don't know what environment debian drops me in after this, but there's no hd* entries in that /dev directory |
| 22:11.53 | Meaw | well. htb , tc qdisc isnt working after i upgrade to kernel 2.6.x , is there any kernel modules should i enable? |
| 22:12.04 | nefertum | i've installed amarok from debian packages and there is not the amarokapp binary |
| 22:12.12 | nefertum | that is needed to run amarok |
| 22:12.13 | kimo | beardy: thnx |
| 22:12.22 | beardy | ShredZ: run 'runlevel' |
| 22:12.48 | ShredZ | beardy, says /bin/sh: run: not found |
| 22:13.00 | nefertum | o |
| 22:13.04 | beardy | ShredZ: runlevel |
| 22:13.13 | ShredZ | same thing |
| 22:13.22 | beardy | ShredZ: But anyway, you are probably in 1. |
| 22:13.31 | beardy | ShredZ: Did you enter your root password? |
| 22:13.46 | ShredZ | beardy, no, it didn't ask for it, just dumped me into a shell |
| 22:13.51 | mirak | hi |
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| 22:13.59 | mirak | why webmin isn't in debian anymore ? |
| 22:14.00 | nkuttler | ShredZ: is /sbin in your path? |
| 22:14.17 | Meaw | mirak, it is |
| 22:14.18 | ShredZ | nkuttler, yes it is |
| 22:14.24 | beardy | It is? |
| 22:14.50 | ShredZ | the /sbin folder only contains depmod, modprobe, rmmod, udevd and udevsynthesize |
| 22:15.08 | nkuttler | ummm... |
| 22:15.08 | mattl | does anyone know which package contains 'X includes'? |
| 22:15.27 | beardy | mirak: /msg dpkg webmin |
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| 22:15.52 | ShredZ | nkuttler, udevd reports as running even and dmesg revelas that all my hard drives/cd-roms were found |
| 22:16.40 | Ratlump | Hey anone have experience with ATI Radeon 9550 in Debian (testing) I'm having troubles getting GLX to work. |
| 22:17.22 | mirak | beardy: ok |
| 22:17.29 | mirak | beardy: it says nothng |
| 22:17.45 | beardy | mirak: /msg dpkg_ webmin |
| 22:18.05 | MasterMedic | can anyone help me with ip masquerading |
| 22:18.16 | beardy | !ipmasq |
| 22:18.16 | dpkg_ | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
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| 22:18.44 | mirak | beardy: still says nothing |
| 22:18.57 | beardy | !webmin |
| 22:18.58 | dpkg_ | webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 22:19.14 | MasterMedic | beardy, i did do aptitude install ipmasq and it still odesnt work |
| 22:19.26 | MasterMedic | also dnsmasq |
| 22:20.57 | ShredZ | beardy, nkuttler is there any chance it's not my root partition that broke, but the boot partition ? |
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| 22:21.38 | beardy | ShredZ: If your /boot is broken, you shouldn't be able to boot any kernel, if they are all there. |
| 22:21.54 | beardy | ShredZ: And your /sbin seems very strange.. |
| 22:22.26 | ShredZ | beardy, I'll take a look from the livecd if there's more in sbin there |
| 22:23.03 | beardy | ShredZ: Do that. And backup your important data. |
| 22:24.21 | ShredZ | beardy, sbin seems very well populated |
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| 22:25.44 | beardy | ShredZ: You're looking at your drive, and not on the livecd I hope? |
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| 22:26.07 | ShredZ | beardy, yes, I can even chroot into the debian installation and run apt commands |
| 22:26.11 | Meaw | what does this mean? Jul 3 01:20:41 deb kernel: Ingress scheduler: Classifier actions prefered over netfilter |
| 22:26.19 | Meaw | in the syslog file |
| 22:26.24 | beardy | ShredZ: Have you fscked the /boot? |
| 22:27.26 | beardy | ShredZ: Have you switched kernel? |
| 22:27.47 | beardy | ShredZ: It may also be an initrd problem if you have done that. |
| 22:27.54 | beardy | ShredZ: (guessing) |
| 22:28.14 | ShredZ | beardy, well I installed the newer kernel for nvidia-kernel drivers but that one was working fine the last 3 reboots |
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| 22:29.15 | ShredZ | beardy, I upgraded some stuff from the gnome auto update program, but it said whip... and udevd had to be upgraded from dist-upgrade |
| 22:29.22 | ShredZ | maybe something broke udev there |
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| 22:30.37 | beardy | ShredZ: "Gnome autoupdate program"? |
| 22:30.59 | beardy | ShredZ: dist-upgrade? |
| 22:31.19 | ShredZ | beardy, the red icon that shows up on the gnome panel to indicate that updates are available |
| 22:31.26 | beardy | ShredZ: Did you install sarge, and updated. |
| 22:31.39 | beardy | ShredZ: I have no idea, don't run gnome, but it sounds like something stupid. |
| 22:31.41 | ShredZ | beardy, I used the etch netinstaller cd which I also downloaded earlier today |
| 22:31.54 | beardy | ShredZ: WHy dist-upgrade then? |
| 22:32.08 | beardy | ShredZ: DO you know what you are running now? |
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| 22:32.18 | ShredZ | cause the update program said there were updates to udevd and another program... still running etch |
| 22:33.13 | beardy | ShredZ: And when gnome flashes this little icon, what program is used to update? |
| 22:33.37 | ShredZ | I guess it's something like synaptic |
| 22:34.00 | beardy | ShredZ: You shouldn't run dist-upgrade if you are not upgrading to another version of Debian. |
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| 22:34.04 | scott | hey guys, how do I access the partition manager and format commands from the install cd, are they built into the OS ? |
| 22:34.06 | beardy | ShredZ: Something like? |
| 22:34.25 | ShredZ | beardy, don't believe this, now when I run the 486 version of the kernel (was running 686) it boots normally |
| 22:34.45 | beardy | ShredZ: What processor do you have? |
| 22:34.56 | ShredZ | beardy, it's an athlon 1000MHz |
| 22:35.00 | beardy | ShredZ: i386 you mean. |
| 22:35.10 | beardy | ShredZ: That's not a 686. |
| 22:35.16 | beardy | ShredZ: k7 |
| 22:35.20 | ScottNailon | brb |
| 22:35.48 | beardy | ShredZ: At least that was one of the problems then. Lets hope it solves all of them. |
| 22:36.20 | beardy | ShredZ: AMD Athlon is k7. |
| 22:36.39 | ShredZ | beadry, but should work fine with 686 no ? |
| 22:36.52 | beardy | ShredZ: No. Not at all. |
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| 22:37.25 | keram | hello |
| 22:37.29 | beardy | ShredZ: All x86 works with i386. The other kernels works only for the correct processor. |
| 22:37.31 | keram | i get this error when i try to run azureus: |
| 22:37.32 | keram | http://rafb.net/paste/results/qK51UA79.html |
| 22:37.38 | keram | can someone help me get azureus working? |
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| 22:38.10 | ricky_clarkson | keram: echo $CLASSPATH |
| 22:38.11 | ShredZ | beardy, then why can my athlon run 686 without ever any problems ? :s |
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| 22:38.32 | keram | ucla:~# echo $CLASSPATH |
| 22:38.34 | beardy | ShredZ: WHat do you call these things you have been trying to solve, if not problems? |
| 22:38.40 | keram | ricky_clarkson, it returns nothing |
| 22:38.46 | keram | just an empty line |
| 22:38.49 | ricky_clarkson | keram: Try installing Java. |
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| 22:39.10 | keram | what i did was try aptitude install azureus |
| 22:39.19 | keram | then it said i needed a bunch of dependencies to run it |
| 22:39.24 | keram | so i installed them all by hand |
| 22:39.44 | keram | well not by hand but i did aptitude install dependency |
| 22:40.00 | ShredZ | beardy, it's another athlon box, mine is an athlon-xp, but I'll do the k7 thing |
| 22:40.29 | ShredZ | beardy, and it was working fine for 2 hours on 686 btw :s |
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| 22:41.31 | beardy | ShredZ: Luck then. |
| 22:41.38 | keram | ricky_clarkson, do i want to install java-common or something else? |
| 22:41.55 | keram | or java-package? |
| 22:42.25 | beardy | ShredZ: Yes, k7 or 386. |
| 22:42.31 | ricky_clarkson | keram: I think java-package on stable and testing, and sun-java5-jre on unstable. |
| 22:42.44 | keram | okay |
| 22:42.46 | keram | i'm on unstable so |
| 22:42.51 | phaedrus44 | is ther an m4a and wma codec for xmms? |
| 22:43.00 | keram | i know that java-package showed up on the unstable packages list though |
| 22:43.12 | ricky_clarkson | keram: Yes, but the latter package is preferable. |
| 22:43.17 | keram | okay thanks :] |
| 22:44.19 | beardy | phaedrus44: Find out? |
| 22:44.22 | ShredZ | beardy, well thanks for the help man |
| 22:44.27 | beardy | !tell phaedrus44 -about search |
| 22:44.46 | beardy | ShredZ: You're welcome. Does everything work now then? |
| 22:45.09 | ShredZ | beardy, it starts up fine under k7 so I'm just recompiling the nvidia drivers |
| 22:47.12 | keram | ricky_clarkson, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java5-jre" |
| 22:47.13 | phaedrus44 | sorry beardy no i dont find out yet |
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| 22:49.03 | Frostbite | zI'm running exim with dbmail so all mail is saved to mysql. Would it be better to run exim on a server shared with mysql or Lighttpd/PHP? The email will be saved to the db over the network either way. |
| 22:50.07 | ricky_clarkson | keram: sun-java5-bin according to packages.debian.org |
| 22:50.20 | ricky_clarkson | keram: I'm not on unstable (right now I'm in Windows anyway..) |
| 22:50.59 | beardy | phaedrus44: Have you done 'apt-cache search xmms | grep wma' and 'apt-cache search xmms | grep m4a' |
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| 22:52.58 | keram | oh.. |
| 22:53.47 | phaedrus44 | i get nothing beardy |
| 22:54.00 | phaedrus44 | thanks for your help..im gonna go look out on the WWW |
| 22:54.32 | beardy | phaedrus44: Yeah, do that. |
| 22:57.16 | killown | how I do benchmark in linux any software for that? |
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| 23:01.46 | beardy | killown: benchmark what, against what? |
| 23:02.56 | killown | benchmark all system |
| 23:04.07 | nile | you can use bonnie for hard drive benchmarking |
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| 23:06.58 | keram | hello |
| 23:07.14 | keram | when i go to play a song with xmms it says that my sound card is not configured correctly |
| 23:07.18 | keram | can someone help me with that? |
| 23:08.33 | \amethyst | can other programs play sounds? |
| 23:08.36 | streuner | what soundsystem do you use? |
| 23:09.09 | keram | its an integraded sound card |
| 23:09.16 | keram | one of the intel integraded ones |
| 23:09.34 | ricky_clarkson | keram: Try mpg321 or mplayer or something. |
| 23:09.42 | streuner | keram: so you have another soundcard installed on that box? |
| 23:10.11 | keram | no |
| 23:10.15 | keram | just the integraded one |
| 23:10.26 | streuner | keram: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 23:12.20 | keram | ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 23:12.52 | streuner | keram: and what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 23:13.06 | keram | Linux version 2.6.17-1-686 (Debian 2.6.17-2) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060613 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-5)) #1 SMP Thu Jun 29 21:48:36 UTC 2006 |
| 23:13.36 | keram | with xfmedia it doesnt say there are erorrs but the sound doesnt work |
| 23:13.48 | ricky_clarkson | keram: alsamixer |
| 23:13.56 | streuner | keram: ok, how did you configure sound at all? |
| 23:14.07 | stew | keram: how about: lspci -n | awk '/040.:/{print $3}' |
| 23:14.30 | keram | 8086:2445 |
| 23:14.36 | keram | i didnt configure it at all.. |
| 23:14.41 | keram | i just assumed it would owrk |
| 23:14.59 | streuner | keram: install alsa-utils and run 'alsaconf' as root |
| 23:15.06 | keram | ok |
| 23:15.19 | stew | keram: "modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss" add both snd-intel8x0 and snd-pcm-oss to /etc/modules |
| 23:15.23 | streuner | add your user to the audio-group as well |
| 23:15.41 | keram | u 2 r confusing me |
| 23:15.43 | keram | which do i do? |
| 23:15.52 | streuner | keram: both are fine |
| 23:15.56 | stew | keram: either |
| 23:16.03 | keram | k |
| 23:16.29 | stew | keram: you should add user to audio group regardless |
| 23:16.40 | beardy | keram: you, two, are, ok |
| 23:16.41 | keram | how do i do that? |
| 23:16.42 | streuner | and logout and back in... |
| 23:16.51 | stew | keram: and you will need to run alsamixer to unmute the volume |
| 23:16.55 | stew | keram: adduser username audio |
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| 23:17.17 | streuner | !audio |
| 23:17.17 | dpkg_ | To configure sound in Debian *Woody*: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in, or use sg command. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, use "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
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| 23:17.36 | keram | ok |
| 23:17.37 | beardy | heh |
| 23:17.39 | streuner | oh, pretty old |
| 23:17.44 | streuner | !factinfo audio |
| 23:17.44 | dpkg_ | audio -- created by greycat <~wooledg@imadev.eeg.ccf.org> at Mon Feb 25 15:45:08 2002 (1588 days); last modified at Mon Mar 10 20:36:13 2003 by Dorward!david@dorward.demon.co.uk; it has been requested 2241 times, last by streuner, 27s ago. |
| 23:17.45 | beardy | !alsa 2.6 |
| 23:17.45 | dpkg_ | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 23:18.03 | stew | !alsa one-liner |
| 23:18.04 | dpkg_ | [alsa one-liner] apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 23:18.09 | beardy | streuner: Leave it, it's a historic document. |
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| 23:18.37 | keram | ugh u guys confus the fuk outta me |
| 23:18.42 | keram | i'm running alsaconfig irght now |
| 23:18.43 | keram | right |
| 23:18.49 | stew | !woody audio is To configure sound in Debian *Woody*: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in, or use sg command. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, use "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. aumix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 23:18.50 | dpkg_ | stew: okay |
| 23:19.07 | ricky_clarkson | keram: Your page up and down keys may help you if we are too quick for you. |
| 23:19.13 | beardy | !beer stew |
| 23:19.23 | stew | !no audio is ask me about <alsa one-liner> or if you are running a 2.4 kernel, <2.4 alsa one-liner> |
| 23:19.23 | dpkg_ | okay, stew |
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| 23:19.47 | stew | !audio is also if you are running woody, consider upgrading, or ask me about <woody audio> |
| 23:19.47 | dpkg_ | stew: okay |
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| 23:20.01 | stew | dinnertime! |
| 23:20.04 | keram | how do i exit out of alsamixer? |
| 23:20.10 | ricky_clarkson | keram: Esc twice. |
| 23:20.14 | streuner | beardy: greycat would never want, that we use old factoids... |
| 23:20.36 | beardy | streuner: True. But what stew did was good, wasn't it? |
| 23:20.51 | keram | thanks :] |
| 23:20.54 | keram | u guys rox |
| 23:21.03 | ricky_clarkson | u is Dutch. |
| 23:21.13 | ricky_clarkson | In English, it's 'you'. |
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| 23:23.02 | beardy | streuner: I doubt greycat cares much about that at all though :) |
| 23:23.35 | streuner | hm, do you think somebody isn't care where he spent years in a channel? |
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| 23:23.45 | beardy | streuner: Yes. |
| 23:23.53 | beardy | streuner: But ask him and see. |
| 23:24.09 | streuner | that's a totally other question... |
| 23:24.14 | ricky_clarkson | I expect him to say he doesn't care, but we know he does. |
| 23:24.19 | ricky_clarkson | !fable |
| 23:24.19 | dpkg_ | it has been said that fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 23:24.24 | KiWiORiN | i've got a weird problem, when I try to boot from the installation cd (etch daily cd) I get a "Uncompressing Linux... crc error -- System halted", I've checked the iso and the md5 checks out |
| 23:24.38 | KiWiORiN | any ideas? |
| 23:24.47 | streuner | well, the iso is fucked |
| 23:24.58 | ricky_clarkson | KiWiORiN: Dodgy memory/CD drive? |
| 23:25.04 | KiWiORiN | It also happened with an older iso i have lying around |
| 23:25.12 | beardy | KiWiORiN: Burned at which speed? |
| 23:25.13 | KiWiORiN | hmm dodgy cd drive maybe, i'm pretty sure the ram is good |
| 23:25.15 | KiWiORiN | 4x |
| 23:25.22 | ricky_clarkson | KiWiORiN: Try a non-Debian iso. |
| 23:25.26 | beardy | KiWiORiN: May be the drive then yes. |
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| 23:25.46 | KiWiORiN | ok i'll try swaping out the drive |
| 23:25.53 | KiWiORiN | thanks |
| 23:26.00 | beardy | KiWiORiN: Try some other discs first though. |
| 23:26.07 | beardy | KiWiORiN: Anything that can boot. |
| 23:26.21 | ricky_clarkson | Sometimes using a different drive is cheaper than burning more discs. ;) |
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| 23:26.26 | Quozl | When I type X, the prompt comes back, $? is zero, but nothing apparently happens. startx times out. After an upgrade, to etch. Ideas anyone? |
| 23:26.31 | KiWiORiN | i tried an older debian image that i had lying around that i'm almost sure works, same problem |
| 23:26.53 | beardy | KiWiORiN: Ok, go get the screwdriver :) |
| 23:26.57 | KiWiORiN | haha |
| 23:27.04 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: The normal case is /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 23:27.07 | Quozl | Why would /etc/X11/X be a link to /bin/true? |
| 23:27.18 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: Or kdm or sdm or xdm etc. |
| 23:27.20 | Quozl | ricky_clarkson: /etc/init.d/kdm start also does nothing. gdm is not present. |
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| 23:27.57 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:28.10 | ricky_clarkson | Or XFree86.0.log if you're on that. |
| 23:28.46 | mne | hi. is there a way to reinitialize the svga console (/dev/tty[n]). On my system it sometimes happens that after shutting down the X server, the console has half it's size and I can't read anything. There are no errors in the logs |
| 23:29.00 | Quozl | ricky_clarkson: ls -l shows last modified 6th June for Xorg.0.log, which is when I last had the monitor on ... I've been through several upgrades since without the monitor turned on. ;-{ |
| 23:29.22 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: So it's not even trying to start X. |
| 23:29.31 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 23:29.33 | Quozl | ricky_clarkson: yes. It's running /bin/true fine though. |
| 23:29.38 | ricky_clarkson | Heh. |
| 23:29.40 | beardy | mne: framebuffer? |
| 23:29.45 | mne | beardy, yep |
| 23:29.47 | Quozl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.50 | beardy | mne: 'reset'? |
| 23:29.56 | ricky_clarkson | apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 23:29.57 | mne | beardy, nope :) does not work |
| 23:30.02 | Quozl | ricky_clarkson: thanks, trying. |
| 23:30.05 | beardy | mne: framebuffer in X aswell? |
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| 23:30.23 | mne | beardy, no, X uses nvidia driver |
| 23:30.24 | beardy | mne: Consider not running framebuffer in console? |
| 23:30.27 | ricky_clarkson | Quozl: There's another package to install, xorg or something. |
| 23:30.30 | ricky_clarkson | As well. |
| 23:30.42 | beardy | mne: Or do you really want to? |
| 23:30.50 | ricky_clarkson | xserver-xorg is only the server, not all the extra gunk that you'll want. |
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| 23:31.21 | mne | beardy, thats no solution ;) I like using the console, and without framebuffer there's just to few space ;) Is there no way to reinit the framebuffer console ? |
| 23:31.25 | beardy | Can the vesa framebuffer switch modes now? |
| 23:31.56 | Quozl | ricky_clarkson: reinstall of xserver-xorg appears to have fixed it, thanks. |
| 23:31.59 | mne | beardy, hmm, if so that could possibly solve my problem ;) |
| 23:32.16 | beardy | mne: I prefer textmode, but to each their own. However there are a few modes to choose from, in textmode aswell. |
| 23:32.43 | mne | beardy, don't know textmode. whats the difference compared to framebuffer ? |
| 23:32.43 | beardy | mne: I'm not sure you can do that though, it hasn't been possible earlier atleast.. |
| 23:33.13 | mne | beardy, anyway, sounds good. I'll have a look at the doc |
| 23:33.34 | beardy | mne: You know, normal text, "pc-font", 80x25 default. |
| 23:33.55 | beardy | mne: If you are running x86, are you? |
| 23:34.33 | mne | beardy, aah, ok :) 80x25 is just sooo few space to work ;)) jep, it's x86 |
| 23:34.40 | beardy | mne: It's faster than framebuffer too. |
| 23:34.58 | mne | beardy, that's true. framebuffer is extremely slow |
| 23:35.10 | beardy | mne: Yes, but you can choose 50x?, 132x80, or what the modes are.. use vga=ask. |
| 23:35.36 | mne | beardy, I'll try that out, let's see if I like it. 132x80 sounds good |
| 23:35.45 | beardy | !nofb |
| 23:35.46 | dpkg_ | Append "video=vga16:off" to the kernel at boot time to disable the framebuffer. |
| 23:36.00 | kbitter | hi all. does anyone knows why does a debian 3.1r1 freezes when scanning ide disk during installation? I just dont have floopy disks. |
| 23:36.32 | zimnyx | I'm trying to configure WLAN interface eth1 using wpasupplicant. Friend gave me 128bit hex WEP key. Following doesn't work http://pastebin.ca/77388 . I'm sure key is OK, it works on Windows. What can be wrong in the config? |
| 23:36.47 | mne | beardy, thank you I'll try it next reboot :) |
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| 23:37.08 | beardy | mne: Don't forget to append vga=ask aswell, if you aren't already. |
| 23:37.10 | mne | zimnyx, if it's WEP you don't need wpasupplicant |
| 23:37.17 | mne | beardy, yep |
| 23:37.26 | zimnyx | mne: what i need then? |
| 23:38.13 | mne | zimnyx, look at the iwconfig man page. it usually works like "iwconfig eth1 key xx:xx:xx.......:xx" where the xx...xx is the key |
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| 23:39.11 | MatBoy | what is a high load on a Celeron 3,06 server ? The server is for test.. but I want to know what high is for this processor :) |
| 23:39.53 | Quozl | MatBoy: 24. |
| 23:39.54 | zimnyx | mne: thanks, i'll try it |
| 23:40.04 | mne | zimnyx, you're welcome |
| 23:40.29 | MatBoy | Quozl, owww I'm now on .24 with some scripts checking port-status :) |
| 23:40.44 | Quozl | MatBoy: no, not .24, 24. |
| 23:40.46 | MatBoy | Quozl, now 1.30 |
| 23:40.48 | kbitter | The debian installer fails to load the floopy driver during the install. I dont have a floopy. Can I avoid this error? |
| 23:41.01 | cafuego | MatBoy: I tend to worry when the load creeps over 10 |
| 23:41.06 | Quozl | MatBoy: it really depends on what sort of response time you want. |
| 23:41.29 | MatBoy | cafuego, there are servers running perfectly on 24.0 I have seen |
| 23:41.36 | mne | MatBoy, and what kind of scheduling you use in your kernel |
| 23:41.48 | clarity_ | how do I change xorg resolution? |
| 23:41.50 | Quozl | MatBoy: most people hit CPU to memory or CPU to disk bandwidth limits long before load average is a problem. |
| 23:41.53 | MatBoy | Quozl, indeed... but scripts that run checks every minute |
| 23:41.59 | beardy | !drxx clarity_ |
| 23:41.59 | dpkg_ | clarity_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:42.06 | cafuego | MatBoy: I know. But like I said, *I* worry when mine gets over 10. |
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| 23:42.20 | MatBoy | cafuego, get some beer to relax :) |
| 23:42.37 | cafuego | MatBoy: From experience I know mine have an actual problem when the load goes up higher (usually a memory leak, filling up swap space) |
| 23:42.42 | clarity_ | that doesn't explain how to set resolution |
| 23:42.48 | MatBoy | I will change the server I think for a P4 3,8 or something with 2GB :) |
| 23:42.52 | clarity_ | there isny any options |
| 23:42.59 | beardy | clarity_: It does. Do as I say. |
| 23:43.21 | clarity_ | I just did |
| 23:43.26 | clarity_ | where's the options? |
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| 23:44.45 | beardy | clarity_: One of the latest questions concerns resolution. |
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| 23:45.23 | clarity_ | that's weird it skips it for me |
| 23:45.36 | clarity_ | it goes vid card, keyboard, fonts, save |
| 23:45.59 | beardy | clarity_: Hmm.. I'm not sure about xorg, but why would it differ.. |
| 23:46.09 | clarity_ | not sure |
| 23:46.12 | beardy | !tell clarity_ -about resolution |
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| 23:47.22 | KiWiORiN | ok so it'd either be the cdrom or ram that would cause that crc error after the kernel is uncompressed ? |
| 23:47.25 | MatBoy | cafuego, indeed, but a swap of 1GB should be enough these days. 2GB is also a lot for some check scripts... but my server was almost always idle... so Load is strange for me :D |
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| 23:47.58 | cafuego | MatBoy: If a box is swapping 1GB on a normal disk, responsiveness goes completely down the drain. |
| 23:50.01 | MatBoy | cafuego, what do you mean with "normal" disk ? |
| 23:50.25 | MatBoy | I'm on a load of 2,5 now :) |
| 23:50.33 | cafuego | MatBoy: standard sata150 or pata133 drive |
| 23:51.02 | MatBoy | cafuego, there is SATA150 in it.. |
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| 23:51.58 | MatBoy | now it is much lower ! |
| 23:52.11 | MatBoy | it had to run the first queries |
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| 23:58.38 | sussudio | :-| |
| 23:59.05 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 23:59.13 | MatBoy | how othen should a portcheck be OK ? Every minute is giving too much load when you have to check a lot I think |
| 23:59.45 | streuner | does debhelper work? |
