| 00:00.27 | abrotman | eXCeSS: ask #kubuntu |
| 00:00.50 | cusco | lol! |
| 00:01.03 | Mazingaro | hi |
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| 00:01.16 | Mazingaro | is there any german people? |
| 00:01.22 | beardy | !de |
| 00:01.23 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.freenode.net und irc.oftc.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on freenode and irc.oftc.net) |
| 00:01.30 | cusco | is it about football? |
| 00:01.33 | eXCeSS | abrotman: its not a kubuntu issue |
| 00:01.49 | eXCeSS | abrotman: is as pertinent here as there so relax |
| 00:01.52 | abrotman | then ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org .. it's NOT a debian question |
| 00:01.56 | hesco | !lsof |
| 00:01.56 | dpkg | hmm... lsof is LiSt Open Files. apt-get install lsof |
| 00:01.59 | Mazingaro | dpkg: thank you :) |
| 00:01.59 | dpkg | my pleasure, Mazingaro |
| 00:02.03 | abrotman | eXCeSS: NO .. it's not kubuntu is NOT debian |
| 00:02.21 | hesco | !fuser |
| 00:02.21 | dpkg | fuser is probably a handy command to 'identify processes using files or sockets' or if you find a port number that you want more info on, do: fuser -n tcp <portnum> ., or some people think it's is short for 'what the fuck is using that damn file!!!!!' |
| 00:02.23 | eXCeSS | abrotman: i never said that, but its an issue that isnt kubuntu specific |
| 00:02.34 | abrotman | you're not using debian |
| 00:02.48 | eXCeSS | abrotman: relax internet tough-guy |
| 00:02.49 | beardy | eXCeSS: Ask #mozilla, or #firefox, or what it's called. |
| 00:02.49 | Supaplex | eek |
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| 00:03.55 | beardy | and "top right circle thing" is a great way to get help |
| 00:04.09 | abrotman | i knew what he meant |
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| 00:04.40 | thummy | How may i send mails with nail from a local user to another one? |
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| 00:04.47 | beardy | abrotman: you're an internet tough-guy, they always know |
| 00:04.58 | eXCeSS | o hey guys can i ask a question now that my ident is changed |
| 00:05.00 | abrotman | eXCeSS: go to #kubuntu |
| 00:05.10 | abrotman | or ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org |
| 00:05.21 | sussudio | %do eXCeSS |
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| 00:05.26 | beardy | eXCeSS: That has nothing to do with it. |
| 00:05.28 | eXCeSS | im clearly on debian now that i changed a line of text! |
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| 00:05.42 | abrotman | eXCeSS: why is this so hard to understand .. it's NOT a debian question |
| 00:05.42 | eXCeSS | lol |
| 00:05.48 | beardy | !lol |
| 00:05.48 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 00:06.01 | eXCeSS | abrotman: then why should i ask kubuntu if its a firefox question |
| 00:06.08 | eXCeSS | abrotman: as you suggested earlier |
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| 00:06.11 | abrotman | then ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org |
| 00:06.12 | sussudio | this is not fucking #firefox |
| 00:06.14 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 00:06.19 | eXCeSS | no this is #argue |
| 00:06.19 | sid | !tell eXCeSS about firefox |
| 00:06.24 | sussudio | ... |
| 00:06.26 | beardy | eXCeSS: He, and I has told you "#firefox on irc.mozilla.org" what part is unclear? |
| 00:06.46 | beardy | eXCeSS: No, this is #welcomefucktardswewantyouall |
| 00:07.02 | eXCeSS | oh man that was hysterical. |
| 00:07.02 | Jamster | *popcorn* |
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| 00:07.29 | cusco | eXCeSS: you asked a question, you were pointed in the right direction. after that you only kept on arguing |
| 00:07.34 | cusco | whats the point? |
| 00:07.36 | eXCeSS | enough of this have fun weve entertained eachother for like 4 seconds haha later |
| 00:07.37 | simonrvn | eXCeSS: you know, you'd save a lot of energy and bad vibes if you did /server irc.mozilla.org ; /join #firefox |
| 00:07.44 | cusco | probably you already know the answer to your question |
| 00:08.01 | eXCeSS | i do actually its a user.js spec but this is entertaining |
| 00:08.14 | abrotman | eXCeSS: please stop trolling |
| 00:08.17 | beardy | !ops eXCeSS ban the fucking troll |
| 00:08.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: beardy complains about: eXCeSS ban the fucking troll |
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| 00:08.30 | eXCeSS | haha later guys |
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| 00:08.39 | mentor | beardy: Please don't be abusive |
| 00:08.55 | beardy | mentor: I will not answer that. |
| 00:09.01 | mentor | fine |
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| 00:09.32 | ttyfscker | how long has the frostwire project been alive? |
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| 00:09.48 | mentor | well, I think that shows me well |
| 00:09.50 | beardy | ttyfscker: What is the frostwire project? |
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| 00:10.10 | ttyfscker | its a port/fork of limewirepro except open source |
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| 00:10.36 | abrotman | mentor: no more "beery" for you :) |
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| 00:10.56 | simonrvn | he has something against bears ;p |
| 00:11.00 | beardy | mentor: And it's so easy for you, only a few lines up. |
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| 00:11.53 | mentor | beardy: Please don't be abusive. |
| 00:12.02 | simonrvn | mmm glue |
| 00:12.13 | simonrvn | gimme some! |
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| 00:12.25 | abrotman | sng: http://www.leavenworth.org/ |
| 00:12.36 | beardy | mentor: Dickwaving the +o mentor doesn't have any affect, do your work properly. |
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| 00:12.56 | beardy | mentor: I am not abusive without reason. |
| 00:12.57 | Jamster | mentor: eXCeSS pretty much annoyed a load of people on purpose. Now, granted, beardy's wording might have been wrong in the !op, tho he was angry. |
| 00:13.11 | abrotman | and the guy was trolling ... quite obviously |
| 00:13.19 | simonrvn | ...and intentionally |
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| 00:13.32 | abrotman | which was pretty evident when he /part right after ops was called |
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| 00:13.40 | mentor | yes. |
| 00:13.46 | mentor | So quite obviously, you don't need to be abusive. |
| 00:13.55 | mentor | You just need to ignore him, until he is removed. |
| 00:14.38 | chowmeined | is debian good for servers? |
| 00:14.43 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:14.44 | Jamster | chowmeined: it's what you make of it. |
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| 00:14.49 | mentor | Yes; define good. |
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| 00:15.01 | chowmeined | secure, stable, fast |
| 00:15.06 | simonrvn | it's also good for your sex life, since it doesn't make you micro-manage everything |
| 00:15.07 | dvs | chowmeined: Are you kidding? Debian lives for servers |
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| 00:15.24 | abrotman | and workstations .. and embedded devices .. |
| 00:15.26 | chowmeined | even on older hardware? |
| 00:15.29 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:15.32 | abrotman | chowmeined: how old? |
| 00:15.43 | macaruchi | anu\y good debian list? |
| 00:15.44 | abrotman | i mean .. if you're making a server out of a 286 .. we might have to talk to your boss |
| 00:15.47 | spldart | Debian has totally pwnt everything I've ever tried to use for serving :) |
| 00:15.53 | simonrvn | good point, how old... i'm running sid on a p3/500 |
| 00:15.57 | mentor | chowmeined: WEll, depending on what you're serving older hardware may not be great |
| 00:16.12 | mentor | I still have a Pentium being my gateway. |
| 00:16.13 | chowmeined | a personal server |
| 00:16.16 | macaruchi | i need to install debian sarge into proliant 800 |
| 00:16.18 | abrotman | chowmeined: specs? |
| 00:16.20 | spldart | I'm running 3 game servers, file server and webserver on k6-2 500 |
| 00:16.20 | dvs | chowmeined: which CPU |
| 00:16.23 | mentor | chowmeined: transcoding video for you? |
| 00:16.25 | chowmeined | 500Mhz 64MB ram |
| 00:16.29 | abrotman | that's old? |
| 00:16.34 | dvs | chowmeined: No problem |
| 00:16.35 | chowmeined | perhaps more ram if i can get this one thing working |
| 00:16.36 | spldart | need more memory |
| 00:16.36 | macaruchi | and I get freeze when initrd.gz |
| 00:16.36 | simonrvn | not old... just low ram |
| 00:16.38 | name | wtf? |
| 00:16.41 | chowmeined | yes |
| 00:16.41 | dvs | chowmeined: P3 I'm guessing |
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| 00:16.49 | chowmeined | yes it is P3 |
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| 00:16.52 | name | http://rafb.net/paste/results/xncgst66.html |
| 00:16.57 | chowmeined | i have another 128MB ram but it has errors |
| 00:16.59 | mentor | chowmeined: What are you trying to serve? |
| 00:17.02 | chowmeined | so i had to take it out |
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| 00:17.12 | chowmeined | smtp, imap, httpd |
| 00:17.28 | dvs | chowmeined: more RAM would be helpful but not mandatory. |
| 00:17.39 | abrotman | it will run .. but 64MB is low .. might run slowly .. but not needed |
| 00:17.39 | mentor | macaruchi: What processor/model? |
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| 00:17.57 | chowmeined | i was considering using badram/badmem patches.. have any of you tried those? |
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| 00:18.07 | Blissex | chowmeined: astonishingly if you know where the mem is bad, Linux can use it. |
| 00:18.08 | chowmeined | the memory works it just has a few places that have problems |
| 00:18.16 | chowmeined | i ran memtest86 |
| 00:18.22 | Blissex | chowmeined: yes, then the badram/badmem will work. |
| 00:18.31 | macaruchi | can i run memtest from netinstall |
| 00:18.32 | macaruchi | ? |
| 00:18.40 | mentor | chowmeined: IT might be more efficient to go and scavenge some old RAM. |
| 00:18.54 | abrotman | it's probably 66Mhz SDRAM |
| 00:19.07 | mentor | macaruchi: It doesn't have a memtest image on it, no. |
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| 00:19.11 | Blissex | chowmeined: if you are really lucky and it is in upper memory, you can use 'mem=...' to ignore it, but better use the paches. |
| 00:19.17 | mentor | macaruchi: There are good diagnostic live CDs around. |
| 00:19.31 | Blissex | chowmeined: 64MB is good for text mode, grim for X with a desktop environment and a web browser. |
| 00:19.43 | macaruchi | mentor;: can u tellme one |
| 00:19.50 | chowmeined | it is 66Mhz sdram |
| 00:19.52 | Blissex | macaruchi: most install CDs have 'memtest86', it is very small. |
| 00:19.55 | mentor | macaruchi: Not offhand. I suggest you google. |
| 00:20.04 | chowmeined | i have no need for a graphical environment though |
| 00:20.07 | Blissex | macaruchi: anyhow the classic is http://WWW.UltimateBootCD.com/ |
| 00:20.10 | mentor | Blissex: Do the sarge CDs have it on them? |
| 00:20.21 | abrotman | not afaik |
| 00:20.31 | mentor | Blissex++ |
| 00:20.31 | chowmeined | if i make a separate /boot partition do i need to set the bootable flag? |
| 00:20.39 | Blissex | mentor: can't remember... |
| 00:20.40 | abrotman | chowmeined: trot over to frye's .. grab an SDRAM stick |
| 00:20.46 | mentor | chowmeined: the boot 'flag' is Windows specific |
| 00:20.47 | Blissex | chowmeined: not for Linux. |
| 00:20.51 | chowmeined | ok |
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| 00:21.13 | Blissex | chowmeined: BTW for text-only there is a delightful text-only window system and window manager called 'twin'. |
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| 00:21.47 | macaruchi | mentor: i have the sarge cd |
| 00:21.54 | macaruchi | this have a live cd |
| 00:22.04 | chowmeined | what FS would you use? |
| 00:22.12 | mentor | ext3mfor now |
| 00:22.32 | macaruchi | mentor: my problem is when it begin to boot freeze : Loading /install/initrd.gz |
| 00:23.05 | mentor | macaruchi: Were you trying to run memtest? |
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| 00:24.30 | mentor | macaruchi: to test the RAM? |
| 00:24.32 | _Luks | hiyas |
| 00:24.43 | _Luks | how many cds are debian ? |
| 00:24.56 | abrotman | use the netinstaller |
| 00:25.03 | mentor | _Luks: 13 |
| 00:25.05 | mentor | ish |
| 00:25.10 | mentor | _Luks: For i386 |
| 00:25.11 | _Luks | 13 ?!!?!?!!?!?!!?!?!?!!!?!!?!!?!?@!@@?@ |
| 00:25.15 | mentor | !ep |
| 00:25.16 | dpkg | Please stop using excessive punctuation. One exclamation point, question mark, period, elipse, comma, hyphen or interrobang is more than sufficient. Using excess punctuation means that you're more likely to be ignored by those who actually can help you, as it makes it difficult to see what you're actually asking. Continued use of excessive punctuation may result in a ban. |
| 00:25.18 | abrotman | !d-i _Luks |
| 00:25.19 | dpkg | _Luks, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:25.21 | mentor | _Luks: What are you trying to do? |
| 00:25.37 | _Luks | test debian |
| 00:25.41 | _Luks | i use ubuntu dapper |
| 00:25.53 | mentor | _Luks: So, you would like to install it? Read the install guide above. |
| 00:26.17 | _Luks | wow 14 cds .. |
| 00:26.28 | abrotman | _Luks: do you have broadband? |
| 00:26.44 | _Luks | 700 |
| 00:26.44 | _Luks | x 14 |
| 00:26.44 | _Luks | -------- |
| 00:26.44 | _Luks | 9800 MB :| |
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| 00:28.00 | abrotman | mentor: you forgot to do something :) |
| 00:28.02 | chowmeined | are other FSs not ready yet? |
| 00:28.15 | mentor | abrotman: no I didn't |
| 00:28.18 | abrotman | some are CPU/RAM intensive |
| 00:28.26 | chowmeined | ah |
| 00:28.34 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 00:28.35 | dpkg | filesystem comparison is, like, http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 00:28.41 | mentor | chowmeined: There are many FSs for high performance applications, and some new ones that are in development |
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| 00:29.29 | abrotman | bah ... i missed it! |
| 00:29.37 | mentor | "You don't know what I was aiming at!" |
| 00:29.54 | mentor | _Luks has buggered off the network. |
| 00:29.58 | mentor | quite. |
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| 00:31.11 | chowmeined | how has your experiance been with LVM? |
| 00:31.26 | mentor | chowmeined: device-mapper/EVMS/LVM is good |
| 00:31.39 | abrotman | apparently recovery is a bitch |
| 00:31.44 | mentor | well, yes. |
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| 00:32.03 | mentor | If your disks fall over, the indirection makes things harder |
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| 00:32.19 | chowmeined | arent there any bootable CD linux distros that can read it? |
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| 00:32.40 | h3xis | I just installed an ATAPI iomega 100 zip drive. Is there anyone here who knows the command to mount it? |
| 00:33.09 | abrotman | man mount && man fstab |
| 00:33.12 | macaruchi | mentor: yes , I wanna test ram with net install sarge |
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| 00:33.27 | mentor | macaruchi: You can't. You need a different boot CD. |
| 00:33.28 | syiron | hello ppl. how do i chroot environment ssh after i install using apt-get install ssh and too apache2? |
| 00:33.33 | h3xis | abrotman, i know how to mount, ive never used a zip drive before. do i need to do something special |
| 00:33.40 | mentor | Jon strib: just curious. My parents company is currently not VAT registered because it is below the income threshold. They tend to prefer it that way, less hassle. |
| 00:33.45 | mentor | erg |
| 00:33.48 | abrotman | h3xis: doubtful |
| 00:34.01 | abrotman | mentor: misfire! |
| 00:34.03 | h3xis | k, abrotman, would you happen to know off hand which fs zip uses? |
| 00:34.05 | mentor | Blissex macaruchi: anyhow the classic is http://WWW.UltimateBootCD.com/ |
| 00:34.18 | mentor | Well, those two are going to beat me to death |
| 00:34.24 | abrotman | h3xis: whichever you tell it to .. though if you've not done anything with it .. probably vfat |
| 00:34.31 | fasta | There is a version mismatch between the X nvidia module and the kernel module. |
| 00:34.35 | mentor | syiron: Er, what? |
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| 00:34.39 | fasta | What can I do about that? |
| 00:34.46 | fasta | I already tried the one liner. |
| 00:34.55 | chowmeined | can you recompile the nvidia module? |
| 00:34.59 | chowmeined | using the correct kernel sources |
| 00:35.01 | Blissex | chowmeined: some liveCDs can do LVM, but I think it is pointless except in special cases. |
| 00:35.17 | chowmeined | so where is the recovery problem come from? |
| 00:35.28 | fasta | chowmeined: I think it would help more if I knew what X was loading. |
| 00:35.29 | syiron | mentor; i mean can i set chroot environment for ssh after i install it using apt-get install ssh ? |
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| 00:35.41 | fasta | chowmeined: If I would know the exact file it's using, I could delete it. |
| 00:35.51 | syiron | or i must install manual and configure it to chroot env.? |
| 00:35.54 | mentor | syiron: You want to chroot sshd? |
| 00:36.03 | syiron | yes sure. |
| 00:36.04 | chowmeined | isnt there an /etc/xorg.conf |
| 00:36.06 | chowmeined | or something like that |
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| 00:36.13 | Blissex | chowmeined: that you need to know your way around it pretty well. |
| 00:36.17 | macaruchi | Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill the idle task |
| 00:36.17 | abrotman | unban beardy!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:36.27 | abrotman | chowmeined: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 00:36.28 | macaruchi | this is the error now |
| 00:36.36 | chowmeined | yes look in there |
| 00:36.39 | chowmeined | see what it is loading |
| 00:36.48 | syiron | any FAQ for this. i trying search about it, but i cannot found it. |
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| 00:37.06 | fasta | chowmeined: I don't think you have enough experience to help me. |
| 00:37.28 | Blissex | syiron: a 'chroot' SSH environment is a bit of an insanity. |
| 00:37.54 | Blissex | syiron: think carefully about what you need to put inside the 'chroot'... |
| 00:38.00 | chowmeined | well then solve your own problem |
| 00:38.01 | mentor | macaruchi: ooh nice. What processor/model? |
| 00:38.03 | chowmeined | what i would do is google it |
| 00:38.08 | chowmeined | and find the answer |
| 00:38.11 | syiron | mean.. i cannot change it after i install using APT. |
| 00:38.13 | mentor | syiron: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 00:38.36 | Blissex | syiron: think carefully about the consequences of a 'chroot' for 'sshd'... |
| 00:38.46 | macaruchi | mentor: This a Proliant 800 with 1 GB RAm how can Iget the procesor |
| 00:38.56 | macaruchi | just tellme P14 |
| 00:39.05 | paulsen | cat /cpu/procinfo |
| 00:39.14 | chowmeined | yea if you chroot sshd doesnt that mean that when you use ssh then you can only use the files in the chroot environment? |
| 00:39.21 | mentor | macaruchi: It's probably a P6 generation Xeon |
| 00:39.29 | paulsen | LOL |
| 00:39.31 | mentor | macaruchi: Which kernel are you using? |
| 00:39.37 | macaruchi | 2.4 |
| 00:39.42 | paulsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.52 | macaruchi | sarge with 2.6 freeze |
| 00:39.54 | syiron | Blissex; so i must make manually right for chroot sshd? not install using apt-get and i chroot it? or i can do it after i install using apt-get install |
| 00:40.03 | mentor | macaruchi: TRy with the 2.6? |
| 00:40.15 | macaruchi | freeze with 2.6 |
| 00:40.22 | mentor | ah. I see. |
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| 00:40.27 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:40.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:40.28 | Blissex | syiron: APT has nothing to do with it, it is just a bad idea under almost any situation, |
| 00:40.39 | mentor | macaruchi: I would suggest that you get a Boot CD and run some RAM and CPU stress tests. |
| 00:40.54 | mentor | syiron: Why do you want to chroot ssh? |
| 00:41.05 | epsilon | how can I download a rtsp vieo stream? Want to download the today's shuttle start from nasa... |
| 00:41.12 | macaruchi | mentor: the net sarge Cd can do that? |
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| 00:41.25 | mentor | macaruchi: NO. |
| 00:41.26 | abrotman | epsilon: you'd need to find software to view an RTSP first |
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| 00:41.39 | Blissex | epsilon: RealVideo or 'mplayer' with special proprietary stuff |
| 00:41.45 | macaruchi | i am trying to download UBCD but i cant |
| 00:41.50 | abrotman | epsilon: email nasa and tell them you want a Theora feed! |
| 00:42.01 | syiron | mentor for protect my system |
| 00:42.18 | mentor | syiron: And why do you think this will protect your system? |
| 00:42.40 | syiron | i hope it. |
| 00:42.40 | epsilon | Blissex: the packages in debian/sarge, or from external source? |
| 00:42.47 | mentor | syiron: And do you understand that every user who logs in via ssh will then be stuck in the chroot jail? |
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| 00:43.13 | syiron | yes. i understand it. |
| 00:43.29 | Blissex | epsilon: external source. |
| 00:43.50 | mentor | syiron: So, that is the intended purpose of chrooting ssh? |
| 00:44.32 | chowmeined | why the 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:45.17 | syiron | yes. |
| 00:45.56 | mentor | syiron: OK, there are multiple pacakges within Debian that can be used to set up chroot environments for Debian packages |
| 00:46.18 | syiron | what there are? |
| 00:46.33 | syiron | any FAQ i want to read for my info? |
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| 00:47.43 | mentor | syiron: apt-cache search jail; apt-cache search chroot |
| 00:47.57 | Blissex | syiron: anyhow, have a look at http://WWW.Linux-vserver.org/ |
| 00:47.57 | mentor | syiron: Look in the /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/ dir |
| 00:48.16 | mentor | macaruchi: Why not? |
| 00:48.43 | fasta | Where is the X driver for nvidia located normally? |
| 00:49.26 | syiron | ok thanks bro mentor and Blissex. |
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| 00:54.44 | Blissex | fasta: same as all other drivers, like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/modules/ |
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| 00:57.29 | fasta | Blissex: apparently not true |
| 00:58.00 | fasta | Blissex: some live in lib |
| 00:58.23 | Blissex | fasta: you said 'normally'... One can set any path whatsoever in the config files. |
| 00:58.34 | fasta | Blissex: I didn't set the path. |
| 00:58.44 | fasta | Blissex: Maybe nvidia's installar did once. |
| 00:58.53 | fasta | Blissex: installer |
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| 00:59.16 | Blissex | fasta: note that the X driver, the libraries, and the kernel driver are all different things. |
| 00:59.26 | Blissex | fasta: and they get installed to different directories. |
| 00:59.28 | Big_Wolf | is there any open source map software? like a mapquest type thing |
| 00:59.49 | fasta | Blissex: I know, but I want to get rid of the message that "the X module is of a different version". |
| 01:00.11 | fasta | Blissex: I can't find that module, because I don't have the name. |
| 01:00.40 | Blissex | fasta: check '/var/log/XFree86.0.log' for info on where it is loading it from, it is reported there. |
| 01:00.56 | fasta | Blissex: great |
| 01:00.58 | nas | does xorg use xwrapper? |
| 01:01.23 | nas | on my old deb system i had an xwrapper.config but that was using xfree86 |
| 01:01.30 | nas | on my new one i dont have one |
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| 01:07.04 | nas | i fixed it. for anyone trying to startx as non root user make sure you have a /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file |
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| 01:07.43 | nas | if starting it doesnt work that is |
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| 01:09.06 | ShredZ | well as an almost ex-gentoo user I have to say, etch is well speedy on a JFS partition :) |
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| 01:09.42 | dvs | ShredZ: so you decided to stay? ;-) |
| 01:10.36 | ShredZ | dvs, well etch was more recent then my 3 month old gentoo install so I think I won't be compiling a lot of software anymore hehe |
| 01:11.05 | dvs | ShredZ: You don't want that 0.02% speed improvement? |
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| 01:11.21 | ttyfscker | what is etch / sid's big deal with udev 0.93? why dont it work worth a shit? |
| 01:11.59 | abrotman | file a bug? |
| 01:12.16 | ShredZ | dvs, I wasn't in it all for the speed tbh |
| 01:12.17 | Alam_Debian | how do I dump/backup a VFAT drive(SD card) and be able to also mount it on loopback? |
| 01:12.19 | dvs | !info udev etch |
| 01:12.20 | ttyfscker | i know its not just my box.. my buddy has a complete diff system and hes getting boot issues with 0.93 |
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| 01:12.30 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ and hotplug management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.093-1 (etch), Packaged size: 249 kB, Installed size: 928 kB |
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| 01:12.43 | ttyfscker | the udev thats included with 2.6.8 i think is 0.53 or 0.5(something) it works fine... |
| 01:12.57 | chowmeined | udev always froze when i was using it |
| 01:12.57 | abrotman | my udev works fine |
| 01:13.02 | dvs | ttyfscker: I haven't had any problems with mine (etch) |
| 01:13.03 | chowmeined | on fedora |
| 01:13.10 | dvs | abrotman: you use udev?!? |
| 01:13.21 | abrotman | dvs: thank gnome :) |
| 01:13.26 | mentor | ttyfscker: Identify specific bugs and they can be fixed |
| 01:13.29 | ttyfscker | well if you remove udev since its optional, then i have some things that arent detected |
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| 01:13.35 | abrotman | but since i have no special needs .. it doesn't crap out on me i guess |
| 01:13.41 | Deep6_ | has anyone got any experience with a hotswap raid backplane and debian? |
| 01:13.47 | chowmeined | does debian use SELinux |
| 01:13.48 | abrotman | (after i fixed the "Let's load the NIC modules in a random order" problem |
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| 01:14.14 | ttyfscker | my mouse wont even work without udev |
| 01:14.26 | ttyfscker | well not in 2.6 kernel |
| 01:14.30 | dvs | ttyfscker: What isn't detected? |
| 01:14.31 | ttyfscker | in 2.4 it does.. its weird |
| 01:14.44 | abrotman | modprobe mousedev ? |
| 01:14.47 | ttyfscker | well the mouse dont get detected with 2.6.12 and up |
| 01:14.58 | ttyfscker | if i dont have udev |
| 01:15.09 | ttyfscker | well its not just the mouse |
| 01:15.23 | ttyfscker | the sound card dont work right.. the system is slower.. |
| 01:15.37 | ttyfscker | but i can go back to the previous udev that was in sarge.. and everything works perfectly |
| 01:16.27 | ttyfscker | i dunno what the deal is with 2.6.8 but it works perfect.. the newer kernel images just take forever to boot, plus the system is a lot slower.. |
| 01:16.45 | ttyfscker | if i remove udev it works fine, except i cant use the mouse |
| 01:17.34 | dvs | ttyfscker: you probably have to load the kernel mouse module manually without udev |
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| 01:17.35 | abrotman | mousedev |
| 01:17.43 | mentor | This is probably due to the way hotplug has moved to udev(+coldplug) |
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| 01:18.06 | abrotman | hotplug didn't move .. it got replaced |
| 01:18.15 | abrotman | and on sarge(2.6.8) .. udev and hotplug could coexist |
| 01:18.23 | mentor | fine |
| 01:18.24 | ttyfscker | yes |
| 01:18.27 | ttyfscker | thats what i was thinking |
| 01:18.32 | ttyfscker | hotplug and udev work fine together |
| 01:18.38 | mentor | This is probably due to the way hotplug has munge(thesaurus(moved)) to udev(+coldplug) |
| 01:18.41 | ttyfscker | but hotplug is now a part of udev package isnt it? |
| 01:18.47 | mentor | ttyfscker: uhh, not really. |
| 01:18.49 | mentor | no |
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| 01:18.59 | mentor | The mechanism is completely different |
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| 01:19.03 | _ericb | hi all |
| 01:19.07 | abrotman | the udev in etch/sid "replaces" the functionality in hotplug .. poorly |
| 01:19.11 | ttyfscker | well the mechanism is problematic on some machines |
| 01:19.16 | mentor | yes |
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| 01:19.25 | abrotman | ttyfscker: is 'mousedev' in your /etc/modules ? |
| 01:19.26 | ttyfscker | thats all my point was |
| 01:19.26 | mentor | as was hotplug, eally. |
| 01:19.41 | ttyfscker | abrotman, yes |
| 01:19.45 | abrotman | hotplug worked way better than udev did when they first switched |
| 01:19.52 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | can someone please assist.. I have 2 different servers. 1 in US and other in AUS, I want to point my domain to both.. so like it pretty much has 2 a-records |
| 01:19.58 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | can someone assist me on the ebst way |
| 01:19.59 | mentor | well, yes. |
| 01:20.06 | abrotman | ebst ? |
| 01:20.07 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | just for redundancy |
| 01:20.10 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | best* |
| 01:20.13 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: Give it two A records? |
| 01:20.20 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: What are you serving? |
| 01:20.30 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: just a website |
| 01:20.44 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: what about name servers etc? leave it to 1? |
| 01:20.46 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: Well, round robin DNS will give you some redundancy |
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| 01:20.58 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: You should always have a backup nameserver |
| 01:21.00 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: can you assist me on doing a round robin setup? |
| 01:21.09 | mentor | in fact, I think it's a requirement of most registrars... |
| 01:21.13 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | yeah |
| 01:21.18 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: Certainly. Add another A record :) |
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| 01:21.22 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | Ok. |
| 01:21.25 | _ericb | is there a project to build a grid so people can give cpu time to packagers/debian developpers to do compilations ? |
| 01:21.30 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | so setup 2 hosting accounts right |
| 01:21.35 | abrotman | _ericb: buildd |
| 01:21.35 | mentor | _ericb: not really. |
| 01:21.43 | abrotman | !buildd |
| 01:21.43 | dpkg | buildd is probably Debian's automated build system that automatically compiles everything it finds. http://buildd.debian.org |
| 01:21.50 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | abrontman: 1 hosting account in the US and the other in AUS |
| 01:21.59 | abrotman | _ericb: but you can't donate yours without signing up with buildd |
| 01:22.00 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: If one of the hosts fails, the lookup will fail half the time. |
| 01:22.01 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | abrotman: then DNS records on each server ? |
| 01:22.09 | abrotman | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: you mean mentor? |
| 01:22.28 | CAiRO | is there a way to make openoffice use the gtk file open dialog in debian? |
| 01:22.30 | abrotman | _ericb: and i'm not sure non-DDs can sign up for buildd |
| 01:22.38 | abrotman | #debian-oo |
| 01:22.46 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | abrotman: ok heres the setup, i have a hosting account on one machine in the US and another in AU, both serving the same site.. they are both name servers aswell |
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| 01:22.58 | adrakoa | hi |
| 01:23.12 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | abrotman: which name server do I change first and with what records etc :s |
| 01:23.13 | abrotman | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: you were talking to mentor weren't you? |
| 01:23.20 | _ericb | abrotman does this pose a security risk to the computer that is donating cpu time ? |
| 01:23.21 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: sorry ^^ |
| 01:23.31 | _ericb | abrotman and how does it works if I want to give my cpu time to debian ? |
| 01:23.41 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: ok heres the setup, i have a hosting account on one machine in the US and another in AU, both serving the same site.. they are both name servers aswell |
| 01:23.43 | abrotman | _ericb: i'm not using it .. try the website to check for more info |
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| 01:24.01 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: Well, presumably you have one NS setup as a master, which pushes information to the slave NS. |
| 01:24.02 | adrakoa | does someone know why ipw2100 inside kernel don't work, but like module yes? |
| 01:24.03 | mentor | ? |
| 01:24.16 | _ericb | thx |
| 01:24.23 | abrotman | !tell adrakoa about ipw2100 |
| 01:24.49 | adrakoa | abrotman, kernel? |
| 01:24.58 | abrotman | adrakoa: module? |
| 01:25.00 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: I have 2 seperate name servers setup.. not in a trust relationship |
| 01:25.07 | adrakoa | firmware? |
| 01:25.30 | abrotman | probably |
| 01:26.02 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: ummm, that's not usally the done thing |
| 01:26.24 | adrakoa | abrotman, excuse i compile a kernel with ipw2100 insisde [*], but don't works error 5 ... but like [M] yes, why? |
| 01:26.54 | abrotman | oh .. ask #ipw2200 .. i thought you were using a debian kernel |
| 01:28.38 | adrakoa | ok thx |
| 01:29.09 | adrakoa | hurd ? |
| 01:29.32 | abrotman | what about hurd? |
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| 01:30.05 | DoppelGanger | have you heard the birds the word? |
| 01:30.12 | adrakoa | is a debian project about kernel GNU.. |
| 01:30.18 | adrakoa | ? |
| 01:30.36 | dvs | adrakoa: There is developement on GNU/Hurd for Debian |
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| 01:31.12 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: ok, since they arent.. ill just use the one set of name servers.. but just have 2 a-records yes? |
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| 01:31.14 | adrakoa | but it's slow.. |
| 01:31.40 | adrakoa | isn't it? |
| 01:32.31 | seventhprince | hi, I am using Debian etch 2.6.15 under gnome 2.14. My thunderbird can't seem to retrieve email from gmail account. But my work emal account is retrievable. I have just rreinstalled my debian. Previously thunderbird can download my gmail account emails. |
| 01:32.33 | seventhprince | thanks |
| 01:33.03 | abrotman | adrakoa: i know what the HURD is .. but i dont' see what it has to do with your wifi |
| 01:33.51 | adrakoa | ok, sorry |
| 01:34.15 | abrotman | nothing to apologize for |
| 01:34.26 | abrotman | mm .. tangential conversation :) |
| 01:34.48 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: yes |
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| 01:36.58 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: You should also set the TTL to a fairly low value, 5-15m |
| 01:37.10 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: You should look at a HOWTO on setting up DNS servers |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | bind-arm ? |
| 01:40.35 | abrotman | !moo |
| 01:40.35 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:41.31 | sussudio | is there any way to find out the video chipset in a laptop without opening the bleeding thing up? it doesn't have a pci bus. |
| 01:41.54 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: fairly low TTL on the zone file yea? |
| 01:42.07 | seventhprince | thinks my problem could be due to i have chosen as internet mail delivery instead of smarthost |
| 01:42.10 | mentor | dsR|Comp|ex`_-: Only on the A records. |
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| 01:44.36 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | 57828 ? |
| 01:44.37 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | that ok? |
| 01:45.38 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: ok I have a master record.. where the domain in the registry is pointing to |
| 01:45.53 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | mentor: then on my machine in the US, do i setup a DNS record for that aswell? |
| 01:46.04 | mentor | dpkg 57828/60/60 |
| 01:46.04 | dpkg | 16.063333333333 |
| 01:46.10 | mentor | uhh...that's 16 hours |
| 01:46.24 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | lol |
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| 01:46.52 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | dpkg 360 |
| 01:47.13 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | dpkg 360/60/60 |
| 01:47.13 | dpkg | 0.1 |
| 01:47.20 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | dpkg 3600/60/60 |
| 01:47.21 | dpkg | 1 |
| 01:47.30 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | seconds |
| 01:47.31 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | lol |
| 01:47.48 | dsR|Comp|ex`_- | 3600 = 1hour |
| 01:48.24 | _ericb | in movies we often see people using image optimisations software to allow more zooming on images. Do such applications exists in linux ? |
| 01:48.44 | abrotman | ha .. i found it .. "The Junkman" |
| 01:48.53 | dvs | _ericb: That stuff is so fake |
| 01:49.06 | _ericb | lol |
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| 01:49.25 | _ericb | just wondering |
| 01:49.27 | abrotman | there are algortyhmys .. but they dont' work that well |
| 01:49.44 | abrotman | there are spell checkers too |
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| 01:50.14 | dvs | thair r? |
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| 01:50.43 | abrotman | what?! |
| 01:51.19 | dvs | thair r spel chekers? |
| 01:51.23 | abrotman | aye |
| 01:51.25 | abrotman | eh |
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| 01:59.36 | Kurtism | Death is the predictable companion of rebellion against the physical laws of nature. |
| 01:59.52 | dvs | Kurtism: aka Darwin Awards |
| 02:00.10 | chowmeined | i want to compile a kernel for debian |
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| 02:00.30 | chowmeined | should i use the regular kernel? or is there kernel source provided by debian? |
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| 02:03.25 | dansushi | Happy 4th! |
| 02:03.52 | Soeki | greetz can someone please help me? my filesystem is being mounted read only and i cant do anything to it, i mistyped someting in /etc/fstab and now it wont let me edit it |
| 02:04.23 | dansushi | did you make sure you opedned the file as root? |
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| 02:04.27 | alan` | ls |
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| 02:04.48 | dansushi | Soeki: did you make sure you opeded the file as root? |
| 02:04.55 | dansushi | *opened |
| 02:04.56 | alan` | how can i get gnome to start when i startx |
| 02:05.02 | Soeki | yes i went to maintenance mode |
| 02:05.10 | Soeki | typed in root password |
| 02:05.49 | Soeki | but when i try to edit fstab and save it claims that the filesystem is mounted readonly and its / |
| 02:06.01 | dansushi | i'm not that familiar with debian, i just got it. what is maitenance mode? |
| 02:06.30 | chowmeined | lets disable pc speaker |
| 02:06.35 | Soeki | init 1, no users, all services stopped (i guess) |
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| 02:06.53 | dansushi | o, well i would go the the settings for the disks/partitions and mount it with the rw option |
| 02:07.09 | dansushi | look in the option list and either take out ro or add rw |
| 02:07.19 | dansushi | ro =readonly |
| 02:07.57 | dansushi | Soeki: do you know what i'm talking about? |
| 02:08.10 | bvs | dansushi, you're pretty smart since he can't change anything on his root partition :) |
| 02:08.19 | Soeki | thats the funny thing i cant edit fstab, because i cant save it, so i guess i dont know what are you talking about. |
| 02:08.25 | dansushi | sorry, i'm probably not the best person to advse you |
| 02:08.36 | dansushi | because i am just learining this system |
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| 02:09.11 | Soeki | i have the sarge instalation cd, is there a way to boot up from it just to access that filesystem and change /etc/fstab |
| 02:09.29 | bvs | Soeki, remount it rw with mount -o remount,rw / |
| 02:09.39 | dansushi | wait a sec how can the root partition be anbything other than read/write? |
| 02:09.39 | Soeki | hmm |
| 02:09.55 | Soeki | in case of errors dansushi |
| 02:10.02 | Soeki | lemme try |
| 02:10.19 | dansushi | brb |
| 02:10.27 | dansushi | i'll boot up my machine w/ debian |
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| 02:15.00 | buht | hello, how can i remove a prior kernel debian package that I made with make-kpkg? i compiled a new one and built a new package then during the installation with dpkg it warned me about the /lib/modules directory existing so i cancelled |
| 02:15.36 | bvs | buht, same way as you remove normal packages |
| 02:15.41 | buht | with apt? |
| 02:16.43 | bvs | that's one way yes |
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| 02:17.01 | Soeki | thanks bvs that did the trick, turned out i put ext3 options while i was using reisers :P (lol) |
| 02:18.27 | abrotman | buht: that's what the --append-to-version is for |
| 02:18.46 | abrotman | or can be for |
| 02:19.01 | buht | abrotman, hrm i did use that compile option as i followed the debian website directions |
| 02:19.06 | dvs | or --revision |
| 02:19.19 | buht | abrotman, so would i just allow it to overwrite the modules directory? |
| 02:19.32 | buht | abrotman, wasnt sure cause i did remove some modules and stuff in the kernel |
| 02:19.43 | abrotman | you can |
| 02:19.59 | buht | does it take care of the modules i told it to remove? |
| 02:20.00 | abrotman | what's the worst that happens .. system just stops :) |
| 02:20.29 | buht | haha |
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| 02:21.41 | buht | one thing im trying to figure out are some matrox parhelia video drivers I grabbed from some developers website... they say they are installed after running a shell script hwoever i dont know if that means i need to recompile due to new libraries for the kernel or just run X, cause running X failed :) |
| 02:22.24 | alan` | i don't have a linux folder in /usr/src/ |
| 02:22.28 | alan` | how can i fix that |
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| 02:22.41 | dvs | alan`: make a link |
| 02:22.42 | buht | alan, use apt-get to install linux-source |
| 02:23.06 | dvs | buht: linux-source won't do it. linux-headers will. |
| 02:23.20 | buht | ah, weird, worked for me |
| 02:23.33 | alan` | kk thanks |
| 02:23.42 | alan` | i have the headers |
| 02:23.45 | alan` | i don't have the source |
| 02:23.49 | buht | linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 |
| 02:23.54 | buht | thats what downloaded when i did it |
| 02:24.33 | buht | dvs: headers also go into the /usr/src directory but are not needed generally |
| 02:25.21 | alan` | yeah |
| 02:25.24 | alan` | wht do i do with tht |
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| 02:27.43 | Kurtism | where is a good pastebin? |
| 02:28.18 | wakejagr | !pastebin |
| 02:28.18 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 02:29.51 | alan` | jj tiy gve ti extract it |
| 02:29.53 | alan` | kk |
| 02:29.57 | alan` | you have to extract it |
| 02:30.04 | alan` | stupid keyboard is screwed up |
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| 02:39.27 | ShredZ | I decided to remove the kernel-image and linux images for 486 since I use the k7 version now anyways, but since I removed them, my system hangs at waiting for root filesystem. I know for sure it's not the filesystem as the exact same thing happened on another machine but we thought it was an architecture thing. Can anyone tell me how to get initrd back in working order ? |
| 02:39.52 | Kurtism | http://rafb.net/paste/results/reROoW32.txt <-- best explanation of everything ever |
| 02:39.59 | Vasistha | ShredZ: I'm wondering if it might be something as simple as the symlink that exists in / |
| 02:41.42 | Vasistha | Kurtism: meh. I don't find it particularly useful, productive, or interesting :P but I'm waaaayy out there, not your typical freenode geek, philosophically |
| 02:42.16 | abrotman | Kurtism: wrong channel ? |
| 02:42.27 | Kurtism | lol |
| 02:42.52 | ShredZ | Vasistha, /initrd.img points to boot/initrd.img-2.16.15-1-k7 which appears to be correct no ? |
| 02:43.16 | Vasistha | ShredZ: ought to be. well, there goes my attempt to be helpful! :-) |
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| 02:45.07 | ShredZ | Vasistha, I got the resize thing done btw and went for debian on JFS, seems really smooth |
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| 02:46.01 | Phrozen_One` | is there a script for debian like ubuntu's "easy ubuntu" script? |
| 02:46.32 | Vasistha | ShredZ: hey, nice to hear it. What did you like about jfs vs xfs, out of curiousity? |
| 02:46.41 | abrotman | Phrozen_One`: to install broken things? |
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| 02:47.12 | Vasistha | ...I was about to ask what the script did, but I don't think I would have gotten such a nice answer from anyone but abrotman :-) |
| 02:47.32 | Phrozen_One` | sarcasm? no, I just am looking for something that will do some basic "post-install" configurations |
| 02:47.43 | abrotman | such as? |
| 02:47.44 | ShredZ | Vasistha, I read some guy's benchmarks on it and jfs seemed to be generally quicker. I wanted to get this thing installed so I didn't dig in too deep really. |
| 02:48.37 | Phrozen_One` | installing ati or nvidia drivers, setting up the synaptic package system to use more sources, etc |
| 02:49.02 | abrotman | no ... |
| 02:49.12 | Phrozen_One` | ok |
| 02:49.17 | abrotman | you have to ask Vasistha .. he knows all that stuff |
| 02:49.20 | abrotman | Phrozen_One`: like this |
| 02:49.27 | abrotman | Vasistha: How do I install IE on Debian? |
| 02:49.36 | Phrozen_One` | umm, definately not |
| 02:49.42 | Vasistha | ah, I can help you with that. first, get your magic wand... |
| 02:49.44 | Phrozen_One` | sounds suicidal |
| 02:50.11 | Phrozen_One` | IE is like genital warts, best kept in the shadows of the conversation world |
| 02:50.16 | Vasistha | we call it, "wine". In fact, you should pour yourself a glass of it, because it might make you very sad if you're not nicely drunk |
| 02:50.55 | shogunx | if someone wants to put ie on debian, they just do not get it. |
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| 02:51.03 | Vasistha | Phrozen_One`: if you're already using synaptic, it's pretty easy to add sources using the gui tool ... however I usually prefer to edit sources.list manually, anyway |
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| 02:51.13 | Phrozen_One` | no I downloaded the wine package, good for the generic windows security auditing tool, such as GFI's Languard |
| 02:51.17 | Vasistha | shogunx: dude, it's ONLY for web developers who have to support it. |
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| 02:51.33 | Phrozen_One` | any other good sources that you would recommend adding to its list? |
| 02:51.39 | abrotman | Vasistha: use a virtual machine |
| 02:51.43 | shogunx | Vasistha, then get a windows weenie to do it for you. |
| 02:51.52 | abrotman | Phrozen_One`: security lines |
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| 02:51.58 | shogunx | they generally do what they are told anyway. |
| 02:52.53 | chowmeined | ok im trying to make a wheel group with pam |
| 02:52.54 | Vasistha | shogunx: for final product that's good, but for debugging process it'd be rather tedious. |
| 02:53.05 | Vasistha | Phrozen_One`: debian-multimedia.org |
| 02:53.16 | Vasistha | !debian-multimedia |
| 02:53.16 | dpkg | from memory, marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 02:53.21 | chowmeined | and it isnt working... i have it set in pam.d/su auth required pam_wheel.so use_uid group=wheel |
| 02:53.29 | shogunx | personally, i do every thing i can to make my pages NOT work with ie. i ven wrote an autokick into apache's config that redirects them elsewhere. |
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| 02:53.54 | shogunx | but then again, i have nobody to answer to about it;) |
| 02:54.48 | Vasistha | shogunx: yeah, I somehow doubt I would get paid by my clients if I did that |
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| 02:55.46 | shogunx | the natural order of things is that linux folks do what they want, and windows weenies do what linux folks say, not the other way around. |
| 02:56.31 | Vasistha | "natural" :-) |
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| 02:57.53 | wols | too bad that "windows weenies" are those with the purse strings |
| 02:57.59 | Phrozen_One` | anybody see some fireworks tonight? |
| 02:58.08 | Vasistha | not yet, it's still light out! |
| 02:58.13 | shogunx | wols you must be hanging out with the wrong people;) |
| 02:58.26 | Phrozen_One` | here its 11 pm |
| 02:58.33 | shogunx | those that can, do. those that can't, use windows. |
| 02:58.36 | abrotman | and it's still lightout? |
| 02:58.51 | wols | lightout? are you in a war with air raids or something? |
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| 02:59.06 | abrotman | oh .. that was Vasistha |
| 02:59.22 | abrotman | wols: blackout |
| 02:59.23 | Vasistha | abrotman: I was thinking of sicking dpkg on you for that bit of silliness |
| 02:59.29 | shogunx | i saw some fireworks. |
| 02:59.52 | Vasistha | I miss living at the coop, where we could climb up to the roof and watch 13 different fireworks shows from around the city |
| 02:59.58 | ShredZ | I can boot the 486 kernel, but not my k7 kernel because it's initrd got modified (I think by unisntalling the 486 version), how can I restore the k7 kernel to boot as it just waits for root filesystem ? |
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| 03:01.15 | kastner | This is odd... free -m reports 1922 megs of ram used, memstat says only 70 megs are used... what gives? |
| 03:01.23 | ShredZ | I also noticed that when putting back linux-image-2.6-486 it made the initrd for it in the process but this doesn't happen when I remove and reinstall the k7 version :/ |
| 03:02.39 | ShredZ | installing this kernel should just take linux-image and kernel-image right ? |
| 03:02.39 | kastner | vmstat and free seem to agree.. this is weird |
| 03:02.44 | kastner | maybe I'm just reading memstat wrong |
| 03:02.59 | kastner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:03.43 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.15 | kastner | wols: I'm not sure - but free has a seperate line for buffers/cache - mem is it's own line right? |
| 03:04.36 | kastner | I just want to find what process to kill to free up my memory before I turn my webserver back on |
| 03:04.36 | wols | mem=actual memory used+discache |
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| 03:04.53 | kastner | Oh |
| 03:04.59 | kastner | so, lsof? |
| 03:04.59 | wols | use top for that |
| 03:05.14 | wols | lsof=list of open files. nothing with memory |
| 03:05.26 | kastner | top, sorted with "M" right? |
| 03:05.28 | wols | run top, press "M" |
| 03:05.47 | kastner | I'm getting 0.1 for the first 10 lines then 0.0% for the rest |
| 03:05.52 | kastner | %mem that is |
| 03:06.17 | kastner | 14696 2180 5896 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.57 sshd |
| 03:06.18 | wols | then you don't use any memory |
| 03:06.25 | wols | all diskcache |
| 03:06.31 | kastner | how can I free it up? |
| 03:06.46 | kastner | and more importatnly, how can I not use it in the first place |
| 03:06.46 | wols | you cannot and you don't want to. it's dynamic |
| 03:06.52 | kastner | oh |
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| 03:07.10 | wols | any memory that's not used by programs is automatically cache |
| 03:07.28 | kastner | I have 2 gigs on this sever, and it's saying I only have 103 with no services (besides ssh) running |
| 03:07.31 | kastner | that sucks no? |
| 03:07.42 | kastner | 103 megs free |
| 03:07.54 | shogunx | kastner, try htop |
| 03:07.58 | wols | yes it sucks. if it were really good it would have 0 bytes free |
| 03:08.07 | kastner | haha |
| 03:08.13 | wols | I'm not joking |
| 03:08.26 | wols | each byte that's not used, be it for programs or cache is a byte wasted |
| 03:09.04 | kastner | shogunx: is there somewhere I can learn about what I"m seeing here? |
| 03:09.17 | kastner | wols: does that mean this server is fine? |
| 03:09.28 | wols | yes it's fine |
| 03:09.33 | kastner | wols: and if so, how can I find out what is going on with my server if free is meaningless |
| 03:09.33 | shogunx | man htop |
| 03:10.13 | wols | you get the numbers for buffers and cache, so if you can do math, you can see |
| 03:10.24 | ShredZ | How can I get this back to working order ? /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-k7 has been altered. Cannot update. |
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| 03:12.17 | kastner | wols if I do vmstat, I see cache: 827780, buff: 136528 |
| 03:14.11 | kastner | I always relied on free to know when I was in trouble, what should I be using? |
| 03:14.28 | wols | free |
| 03:14.38 | wols | or top which shows the same |
| 03:14.40 | kastner | wols: I'm sorry I'm not following, could you explain more? |
| 03:14.47 | wols | no |
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| 03:15.17 | kastner | could you point me to a resource that would explain what I'd want to look for and how to correct it? |
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| 03:18.40 | wols | how often do I have to tell you: there is nothing to correct |
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| 03:20.25 | kastner | wols: well, I'm using lighttpd and php4-cgi and the load average goes to 14 or so, and the server becomes unresponsive. I'm pretty sure something is wrong. |
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| 03:23.29 | wols | yes. php4-cgi is |
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| 03:23.54 | wols | that create a new process for every PHP page you get |
| 03:24.06 | x3on | Testing is the right release to use for latest packages /vs/ stability, right? |
| 03:24.24 | kastner | wols: is that the intended behaviour? |
| 03:24.38 | chowmeined | in aptitude is there a way to search next? |
| 03:24.43 | wols | it's the only way for php4-cgi |
| 03:24.52 | Ratlump | chowmeined: Hit the n key... |
| 03:25.02 | kastner | wols: I'm using lighttpd because it's serving MUCH faster then apache |
| 03:25.07 | wols | kastner: why can't you use apache? |
| 03:25.14 | kastner | wols: Its too slow |
| 03:25.15 | wols | lighthttpd only serves static pages faster |
| 03:25.16 | chowmeined | oh.. hmm that didnt work earlier .. thank you |
| 03:25.28 | wols | yes cause a load of 14 is not, you're right |
| 03:25.35 | Ratlump | chowmeined: Have you tried synaptic? |
| 03:25.42 | kastner | With apache the server load hit 250 |
| 03:25.48 | chowmeined | synaptic? |
| 03:25.49 | chowmeined | no |
| 03:25.52 | wols | what are you running? |
| 03:26.02 | kastner | debian. |
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| 03:26.16 | Ratlump | chowmeined: It's a new package manager with a GUI. I believe it is built on apt. |
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| 03:26.24 | wols | what software on the webserver. I know you run debian |
| 03:26.24 | chowmeined | oh |
| 03:26.27 | chowmeined | im not using a gui |
| 03:26.40 | kastner | wols: right now, lighttpd, we were on apache 1.3 |
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| 03:26.46 | Ratlump | chowmeined: Okay. I still use aptitude occasionally. I'm a keyboard kinda guy anyway. |
| 03:26.49 | wols | what php scripts! |
| 03:26.53 | kastner | our own |
| 03:26.56 | kastner | image generation |
| 03:27.26 | wols | rewrite the script then |
| 03:27.53 | kastner | we have. |
| 03:28.01 | Ratlump | Now, don't all video experts yell out at the same time, but do you know or know of anyone who has gotten OpenGL to work properly with a fairly new ATI Radeon or NVIDIA card? |
| 03:28.17 | kastner | but without knowing what is causing the problem, we can't fix it |
| 03:28.42 | chowmeined | is there a command line service managment tool for debian? something like chkconfig |
| 03:29.02 | wols | chowmeined: 3 in fact: ssh, bash and vi |
| 03:29.05 | wols | great combo |
| 03:29.14 | Ratlump | wols: lol |
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| 03:29.34 | wols | "service"? there are no services. Linux has daemons |
| 03:29.38 | wols | and there is update-rc.d |
| 03:30.01 | Ratlump | There used to be linuxconf... |
| 03:30.12 | chowmeined | wow arent you cranky |
| 03:30.18 | chowmeined | its not my fault i used redhat |
| 03:31.17 | Ratlump | chowmeined: Well, that's beside the point right now, but in what sense do you want to manage... services...? wols is right that you can use update-rc.d, but that may not be what you were looking for? |
| 03:31.32 | chowmeined | i just want to turn them off |
| 03:31.36 | chowmeined | the daemons |
| 03:31.44 | wols | rm /etc/rc2.d/whatever |
| 03:31.45 | Ratlump | chowmeined: as in /etc/init.d/<servicename> stop ? |
| 03:31.45 | wols | done |
| 03:31.58 | chowmeined | turn them off for boot |
| 03:32.00 | wols | and stopping them right now: /etc/init.d/daemonname stop |
| 03:32.06 | chowmeined | ok |
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| 03:32.25 | wols | chowmeined: update-rc.d is what you want |
| 03:32.45 | Ratlump | chowmeined: Ahh... then you'd probably want to use update-rc.d (proper method) or like wols said earlier to rm /etc/rc?.d/servicename |
| 03:33.31 | Ratlump | actually there's more to it than the rc?.d/servicename. Usually the servicename is preceded with a S or K and a two digit number for the order in which it is processed when switching to or from a runlevel. |
| 03:34.03 | chowmeined | yes i understand |
| 03:34.16 | Ratlump | chowmeined: You did ask for a command line utility, right... |
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| 03:36.11 | chowmeined | do i have to use inetd? |
| 03:36.20 | Ratlump | chowmeined: or xinetd |
| 03:36.39 | chowmeined | but it is required? |
| 03:36.51 | chowmeined | aptitude seems to make it seem that way |
| 03:37.05 | chowmeined | so i can replace it with xinetd? |
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| 03:37.53 | chowmeined | ok thank you |
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| 03:38.16 | Tobsn | morning |
| 03:38.24 | Ratlump | Tobsn: night. |
| 03:38.32 | Tobsn | its 5:38am ;) |
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| 03:38.51 | Ratlump | Tobsn: Not in this part of the galaxy. It's 10:40 PM |
| 03:39.05 | Tobsn | a little question: is it possible to find files edited at a specific time? |
| 03:39.29 | Tobsn | ratlump, westcoast, amerika? |
| 03:40.01 | Ratlump | Tobsn: Try Mid-South, USA |
| 03:40.03 | unix_infidel | Tobsn: man find |
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| 03:40.14 | Ratlump | Tobsn: Or ls -ltr, I suppose. |
| 03:40.16 | unix_infidel | search for a time and ctmin |
| 03:40.33 | Tobsn | unix_infidel, yeah i know find... but i cant figure out how to get the file around Jul 04 05:17 |
| 03:40.40 | freakzoid0223 | wst cst would be 8:40 |
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| 03:41.18 | unix_infidel | Tobsn: look at the second thing i just said. |
| 03:41.21 | Tobsn | (its 5:41am in germany, passau, near munich ;) |
| 03:41.23 | unix_infidel | search for...blah blah. |
| 03:41.27 | Tobsn | thx |
| 03:41.40 | unix_infidel | cheers |
| 03:41.45 | freakzoid0223 | take it u watched the game huh :/ |
| 03:42.01 | jf3 | for xen 3.0, is it better to install sid, or is backports.org + sarge the better route? |
| 03:42.34 | litage | are there any issues/downsides to using a dual-core cpu with linux rather than a single-core? |
| 03:42.45 | Tobsn | hmm unix_infidel, -mmin? |
| 03:42.48 | Tobsn | File's data was last modified n minutes ago. |
| 03:43.06 | unix_infidel | 22:40 < unix_infidel> search for a time and ctmin |
| 03:43.12 | unix_infidel | atime* |
| 03:43.16 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 03:43.21 | unix_infidel | and cmin* |
| 03:43.21 | unix_infidel | :P |
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| 03:43.30 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 03:43.32 | concept10 | anyone have experience with xen on sarge? |
| 03:43.49 | Tobsn | hmm what was the stupid syntax for find? find -ctime=+2 |
| 03:43.51 | Tobsn | or something |
| 03:44.24 | litage | concept10: type this: /msg dpkg ask |
| 03:44.52 | concept10 | litage, i will let you type that |
| 03:45.04 | litage | concept10: do you know what it does? |
| 03:45.23 | concept10 | litage, no |
| 03:45.30 | litage | !tell concept10 about ask |
| 03:45.45 | concept10 | litage, I know wtf it does |
| 03:45.58 | Soeki | how do i install php support for apache2 using sarge? |
| 03:46.33 | litage | Soeki: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 03:47.05 | Soeki | i already did |
| 03:47.18 | Tobsn | apt- get install php5.1-common |
| 03:47.29 | Soeki | but when i open a page all i get is the index.php source code |
| 03:47.39 | litage | Soeki: did you restart apache/ |
| 03:47.50 | Soeki | yes |
| 03:47.53 | Tobsn | hmm unix_infidel |
| 03:48.01 | Tobsn | # find . -name '*.php' -atime -24 | grep -v "web1" | wc -l |
| 03:48.01 | Tobsn | 2392 |
| 03:48.04 | Tobsn | ... ;) |
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| 03:49.02 | concept10 | Is there a way to ssh into a new xen install before creating a new domain? |
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| 03:49.52 | narg | What package provides mysql.h? mysql-dev doesn't seem too... |
| 03:50.03 | Tobsn | mysql-common? |
| 03:50.05 | Tobsn | mysql-client? |
| 03:50.09 | Tobsn | something like that |
| 03:50.11 | Tobsn | i think client |
| 03:50.14 | Tobsn | or -server |
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| 03:50.19 | Tobsn | cant remember sorry |
| 03:50.36 | litage | narg: you can search packages.debian.org for the file mysql.h |
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| 03:50.52 | simonrvn | libmysqlclient*-dev |
| 03:50.57 | simonrvn | iirc |
| 03:50.58 | Soeki | im using the apache2 part of this guide --> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/perfect_setup_debian_sarge/index.php |
| 03:51.07 | narg | simonrvn: not that either |
| 03:51.12 | Soeki | so im lost :( |
| 03:51.36 | simonrvn | !find mysql.h |
| 03:52.22 | scanf | so tell me guys... if the wpa_supplicant daemon MUST be runningbefore a wireless interface is configured, why isn't it present ammong the runtime control scripts. There is only /etc/init.d/wpa_ifupdown with no start commands defined! |
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| 03:52.52 | P-NuT | Hey all, when I try to poweroff or reboot debian, it freezes after shutdown. |
| 03:53.46 | P-NuT | well, |
| 03:54.06 | P-NuT | it doesn't actually shutdown or reboot. |
| 03:54.36 | P-NuT | any idea why? |
| 03:54.48 | scanf | but it *does* start and stop |
| 03:55.18 | P-NuT | It does boot up, but when you shutdown it does everything except power the box off. |
| 03:55.42 | P-NuT | and / or reboot the box. |
| 03:55.46 | P-NuT | follow? |
| 03:55.46 | x3on | where do I get the current "testing" iso? |
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| 03:56.13 | scanf | P-NuT: are we ... talking about the same thing? |
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| 03:57.00 | scanf | yeah yeah |
| 03:57.02 | P-NuT | scanf: umm.. I hope so.. |
| 03:57.12 | scanf | P-NuT: nope |
| 03:57.19 | P-NuT | scanf: ok. |
| 03:57.27 | P-NuT | how about I be a little more verbose.. |
| 03:57.46 | P-NuT | ok so here's my issue.. |
| 03:59.31 | P-NuT | I type shutdown -h now OR reboot and it starts the shutdown command. It sends a message to the users logged on, then unmounts everything, then goes to the end where it says "powering down" or something like that, but when it actually tries to turn the power to the box off, it doesn't happen. It stays running.. |
| 03:59.34 | P-NuT | follow now? |
| 04:01.25 | scanf | P-NuT: I've seen this too... not that I really cared why... probably doesn't support the needed OEM calls to shut the power down... |
| 04:02.09 | P-NuT | weird, because ubuntu does.. |
| 04:02.42 | scanf | ubuntu is arguably better 'tuned' forlittle things likethat... |
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| 04:02.49 | P-NuT | is there a package or something I should be looking at? |
| 04:03.38 | scanf | P-NuT: no idea... probably the way one ofthe kernel modules are loaded... |
| 04:03.46 | P-NuT | modules you say.... |
| 04:03.48 | P-NuT | hmm... |
| 04:04.09 | scanf | well, powerdown ultimately involves the kernel, so.... |
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| 04:04.14 | P-NuT | damn. Where do you suggest I look for info on this? |
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| 04:04.59 | scanf | maybe #ubuntu? |
| 04:05.23 | scanf | one of their hackers might share the secret or whatever |
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| 04:12.34 | alan` | how can i configure a wireless card in Debian? |
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| 04:13.44 | stew | alan`: install the wireless-tools package, and "man 7 wireless ; man 5 interfaces" |
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| 04:15.32 | P-NuT | stew: does that support atheros chipsets? |
| 04:16.32 | scanf | alan: is this for a laptop? Will you be roving between access points? |
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| 04:16.53 | stew | P-NuT: yes, however for atheros, you will have had to add support to your kernel, afaik |
| 04:17.02 | scanf | alan`: is this for a laptop? Will you be roving between access points? |
| 04:17.37 | P-NuT | what's the easiest way to recompile a kernel? |
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| 04:18.09 | Supaplex | with a compiler |
| 04:18.10 | stew | P-NuT: /msg dpkg kp ; but why do you want to recompile your kernel? |
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| 04:18.45 | P-NuT | Supaplex: My god! that's great! Thanks! |
| 04:18.49 | P-NuT | *sigh* |
| 04:19.09 | stew | P-NuT: if you just want to add atheros support you don't have to recompile, /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 04:19.15 | Supaplex | :) kp is pretty good at using a compiler to. hehe |
| 04:20.21 | alan` | yes, srry, i just got up |
| 04:20.30 | alan` | yeah its for a laptop and i will b moving between access points |
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| 04:20.43 | scanf | alan`: then Debian isn't for you |
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| 04:20.50 | alan` | wht u mean |
| 04:21.00 | alan` | no as in i have a wireless card |
| 04:21.09 | DragonD | whew! |
| 04:21.12 | alan` | that i need to get a driver for to make linux work |
| 04:21.20 | DragonD | now that was a good fireworks show. |
| 04:21.51 | scanf | alan`: much more than that. You need to configure the network after thecard has been installed |
| 04:21.59 | alan` | yeah i know |
| 04:22.05 | alan` | i just need to get the card installed |
| 04:22.18 | stew | alan`: what chipset does the card have? |
| 04:22.26 | alan` | Realtek 8180L |
| 04:22.36 | alan` | i have the driver downloaded |
| 04:22.53 | alan` | from the Realtek website |
| 04:23.30 | scanf | alan`: but your original question wass how can you "configure" |
| 04:23.48 | alan` | yeah i meant install the driver |
| 04:23.51 | alan` | i used the wrong word |
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| 04:24.29 | scanf | alan`: ok. do you have driversource or binary? |
| 04:24.39 | P-NuT | stew, ok so just install madwifi and I'm cool yeah? |
| 04:24.40 | alan` | binary i think |
| 04:25.06 | stew | P-NuT: should be |
| 04:25.08 | DragonD | what windowmanager do you all use? |
| 04:25.15 | Vasistha | kdm / kde |
| 04:25.16 | scanf | alan`: oooh. You aren't sure?? Make sure it's exactly the one for your kernel |
| 04:25.20 | Vasistha | !polls |
| 04:25.20 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 04:25.24 | alan` | ok |
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| 04:26.01 | Timtow | I'm trying to compile a program but it's complaining it can't find the x includes and/or libraries...where are those at? |
| 04:26.06 | DragonD | well i was just looking for suggestions. |
| 04:26.07 | alan` | where can i get the driversource |
| 04:26.22 | scanf | google might tell you... :) |
| 04:26.32 | DragonD | Vasistha: what do you think about icewm and fluxbox |
| 04:26.33 | Vasistha | Timtow: kinda depends what program it is |
| 04:26.46 | Timtow | kvirc |
| 04:27.03 | insmod | DragonD: fluxbox is great |
| 04:27.04 | alan` | wait, grrd, i have some stupid fedora 2.6 driver |
| 04:27.20 | stew | Timtow: what are you trying to compile? |
| 04:27.22 | Vasistha | DragonD: heh, well, a lot can be said on this subject. One thing's for sure, though: there's no one wm for everyone ... not at the moment, anyway. I actually run kde on my old 333 mhz / 192 mb system |
| 04:27.29 | Timtow | KVIRC |
| 04:27.38 | scanf | alan`: At this point I don't envy you... |
| 04:27.39 | Timtow | the debian package is an old version |
| 04:27.51 | stew | Timtow: apt-get build-dep kvirc |
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| 04:28.16 | stew | Timtow: what version of debian are you running? what version are you trying to compile? |
| 04:28.24 | Vasistha | DragonD: and I've heard people say that other wm's are snappier and can do all the same stuff. For me... kde was easiest to learn, and I now have it configured in the way that I like. It'll take me some time to learn the ins-and-outs of another wm. kde takes a while to load and sometimes it's a tad slow, but I don't really mind that at all. |
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| 04:28.40 | Timtow | I'm running Debian Sarge 3.1 - KVIRC vn |
| 04:28.48 | stew | Timtow: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 04:28.50 | Timtow | looking for the version |
| 04:29.15 | alan` | ok, thats all i can get from them for the 2.6x kernel |
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| 04:29.23 | alan` | now wht do i do |
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| 04:36.30 | DragonD | I keep getting packages are from an untrusted source. why? |
| 04:37.44 | Gnea | DragonD: you have some sort of output that states this. where? |
| 04:37.56 | DragonD | in aptitude. |
| 04:38.06 | Gnea | !paster |
| 04:38.06 | dpkg | methinks pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 04:38.47 | DragonD | Gnea kinda hard to paste anythin, i'm in console and don't have a "working" mouse yet |
| 04:39.08 | Gnea | DragonD: oh that's easy, just install and setup gpm and lynx/links |
| 04:39.22 | falkon | I have the nvidia module installed and lsmod shows it loaded, but when I do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' nvidia is not a driver choice and if I put it in xorg.conf, I get an error. Anyone know why this might be? |
| 04:39.36 | Gnea | !gpm |
| 04:39.36 | dpkg | [gpm] if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 04:39.56 | DragonD | i tried to get gpm working eirler but i can't, eg. left button = Q right button= W |
| 04:40.05 | DragonD | and middle button = E |
| 04:40.18 | Gnea | you must not have set the right protocol or driver |
| 04:40.44 | DragonD | Gnea: it's a usb mouse, i tired ps2 imps2 and autops2 |
| 04:40.57 | Gnea | i have a usb mouse and it works just fine with gpm |
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| 04:41.24 | DragonD | Gnea what protocol do you use? |
| 04:41.30 | Gnea | autops2 |
| 04:41.35 | Gnea | device is /dev/psaux |
| 04:41.48 | Gnea | repeat_type=ms3 |
| 04:43.04 | DragonD | when i click it "types" "Q" sometimes "Q " |
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| 04:43.47 | insmod | DragonD: i thing it needs to be /dev/usb/mice |
| 04:43.52 | DragonD | it is always the same with imps2 ps2 autops2 and exps2 |
| 04:44.07 | Gnea | DragonD: if you cat /dev/psaux and move the mouse around, do you get crap all over the screen? |
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| 04:44.45 | DragonD | i don't have /dev/usb/mice |
| 04:45.02 | insmod | /dev/usb/mouse0 |
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| 04:45.28 | Tobsn | re |
| 04:45.32 | FabParma | please, how to see the dns in use? |
| 04:45.42 | Tobsn | can i pipe the lines from grep into rm? |
| 04:45.44 | peterS | DragonD: he means /dev/input/mice |
| 04:45.46 | DragonD | Gnea yes |
| 04:45.55 | peterS | Tobsn: yes by using xargs |
| 04:45.57 | Gnea | DragonD: ok, you should be fine with that |
| 04:46.01 | Tobsn | ah xargs was it |
| 04:46.07 | Tobsn | thx |
| 04:46.12 | Gnea | DragonD: what kind of mouse is it, exactly? who makes it? model#? how many buttons? |
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| 04:46.44 | stew | DragonD: "modprobe mousedev" add mousedev to /etc/modules |
| 04:46.44 | DragonD | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.56 | peterS | DragonD: I told you, he meant /dev/input/mice |
| 04:47.03 | peterS | but don't mind me, I don't know anything about mice, I only maintain gpm |
| 04:47.18 | insmod | DragonD: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x194.html |
| 04:47.22 | Gnea | well you finally said something :P |
| 04:47.26 | DragonD | Gnea logitech wireless mouse and KB.. |
| 04:47.45 | FabParma | what command to see the dns that im using? i tried with "ifconfig" but i have not found any dns record |
| 04:48.04 | stew | FabParma: cat /etc/resolv.conf (man resolv.conf) |
| 04:48.05 | Gnea | FabParma: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:48.17 | DragonD | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.38 | FabParma | tnek you stew and Gnea |
| 04:49.05 | Tobsn | hmm -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long |
| 04:49.09 | Tobsn | any workaround? |
| 04:49.14 | stew | Tobsn: use xargs |
| 04:49.18 | Tobsn | i want try a* to 9* |
| 04:49.25 | Tobsn | stew, yeah i've got it |
| 04:49.29 | stew | Tobsn: what are you trying to do? |
| 04:49.53 | Tobsn | delete all cache files with a string in it... |
| 04:49.59 | DragonD | stew what does mousedev do? |
| 04:49.59 | Tobsn | but i think the filelist is to long ;) |
| 04:50.15 | stew | Tobsn: grep -rl "string" | xargs rm |
| 04:50.27 | stew | Tobsn: -r is for recursive, you might not want that |
| 04:50.48 | Tobsn | yeah |
| 04:50.50 | Tobsn | and -l? |
| 04:50.54 | Tobsn | -l, --files-with-matches only print FILE names containing matches |
| 04:51.01 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 04:51.07 | stew | Tobsn: yes, you want the filenames to pass to rm (via xargs) |
| 04:51.18 | Tobsn | yeah yeah... works :) |
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| 04:51.19 | Tobsn | but |
| 04:51.20 | Tobsn | -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long |
| 04:51.23 | Tobsn | is the problem ;) |
| 04:51.28 | Tobsn | the xargs works |
| 04:51.42 | stew | Tobsn: what exact commmand are you using? |
| 04:51.53 | Tobsn | grep -l "unsleepable_v16" * | cut -d ":" -f 1 | xargs rm |
| 04:52.17 | stew | ls | xargs grep -l "unsleepable_v16" | xargs rm |
| 04:52.32 | ahewitt | hey does anyone know if there is any variable that can be used in postinst to can be used as a version number for the package being installed? |
| 04:52.51 | Tobsn | ah |
| 04:52.55 | lakez | my syslogd won't write to the files after they're rotated... I gotta issue: killall -HUP syslogd.. anyone know whY/ |
| 04:53.06 | peterS | or 'echo *' in place of 'ls' if you prefer |
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| 04:53.11 | Tobsn | good idea |
| 04:53.12 | Tobsn | ths |
| 04:53.13 | Tobsn | thx |
| 04:53.14 | peterS | since echo is a builtin shell function, it's not subject to argument length limits |
| 04:53.28 | atrus | anybody here using a USB keyboard, with BIOS's "Legacy USB" option turned on able to check something for me? |
| 04:53.28 | stew | and probably a wee faster |
| 04:53.54 | Tobsn | are you sure with echo *? |
| 04:54.06 | Tobsn | it echos a endless string... |
| 04:54.15 | Tobsn | file file file file |
| 04:54.19 | peterS | yes it does |
| 04:54.21 | Tobsn | okay |
| 04:54.24 | peterS | and xargs splits at whitespace |
| 04:54.27 | peterS | not just at newlines |
| 04:54.29 | stew | as long as you don't have spaces in your filenames |
| 04:54.32 | Tobsn | okay |
| 04:54.38 | Tobsn | no i dont have |
| 04:54.46 | Tobsn | nice nice... |
| 04:55.00 | Tobsn | so... wait till grep is done with 9000 files |
| 04:55.01 | Tobsn | hehe. |
| 04:55.11 | Tobsn | (damn wordpress ;) |
| 04:55.43 | Tobsn | btw. |
| 04:55.52 | Tobsn | [Wed Jul 05 06:55:25 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /htdocs |
| 04:56.02 | Tobsn | any idea how to track this apache error? |
| 04:56.06 | Tobsn | cant find the source... |
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| 04:58.15 | stew | Tobsn: that means its literally looking for /htdocs on your filesystem, your DocumentRoot is probably pointing to /htdocs |
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| 04:58.56 | stew | Tobsn: but that also means that someone (possibly you) changed your httpd.conf specifically to do this (or you aren't running debian or something) |
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| 05:03.08 | Tobsn | stew |
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| 05:03.20 | Tobsn | the client is 127.0.0.1 so its a script on the server |
| 05:03.30 | Tobsn | and all my vhosts working... |
| 05:04.16 | peterS | I hacked into 127.0.0.1 the other day. it was leet. the admin of that box uses the same root password I do. |
| 05:04.38 | Tobsn | lucky day ;) |
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| 05:08.22 | Xgates | does anyone know how to use Find to remove broken symlinks in a directory? |
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| 05:15.54 | capnskull | does anyone in here know a good plug-in for firefox to play embedded videos and audio? |
| 05:16.38 | cast | mplayer pluggin will do that. but imo it was unstable |
| 05:16.44 | dabreegster | capnskull: There's a mozilla-mplayer |
| 05:17.24 | capnskull | ok thank you very much. |
| 05:18.42 | icebit | hi all |
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| 05:27.26 | irfan | hi |
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| 05:27.54 | roby | someone point me to libdvdcss stuff plz? |
| 05:28.24 | dabreegster | !tell roby about marillat |
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| 05:28.56 | roby | dabreegster: cool, i installed it from there, hoepfully it works... whatever happened to that script that used to sit around in /usr/ somewhere |
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| 05:29.16 | dabreegster | roby: What script? What did it do? |
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| 05:30.01 | roby | dabreegster: install css2 |
| 05:30.33 | dabreegster | roby: libdvdcss2 is in marillat testing. Dunno why you'd need another script for it. Never heard of it, anyway. |
| 05:30.58 | roby | well marillat worked thanks |
| 05:31.09 | dabreegster | No prob. |
| 05:33.14 | roby | dabreegster: wow even dd works |
| 05:33.25 | roby | dd if=/dev/dvd of=ripped.iso |
| 05:33.42 | roby | :) |
| 05:34.11 | dabreegster | roby: If you're trying to make a dvdrip of the main video, there are much better ways |
| 05:35.15 | roby | dabreegster: i'm trying to make an exact rip. so i figure iso is the best way |
| 05:35.31 | roby | besides that, i laso need to play dvds in gxine |
| 05:35.33 | dabreegster | roby: Probably |
| 05:35.34 | roby | also* |
| 05:36.46 | roby | man, debian is such sweetness |
| 05:36.50 | roby | thanks again dabreegster |
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| 05:46.28 | mahyar | how do you change the resolution of an x-session without the virtual desktop resolution thing happening |
| 05:47.19 | Guerin | mahyar: log out, change the resolution, and log back in again |
| 05:47.43 | mahyar | is there another way? |
| 05:47.59 | mahyar | without doing something equivalent to a windows restart? |
| 05:48.10 | Guerin | mahyar: xrandr, but it won't chane anything permanently |
| 05:48.30 | Guerin | it's not equivalent to a windows restart, it's just restarting one program |
| 05:48.49 | mahyar | i know, but it's a pita like one |
| 05:49.52 | mahyar | yay! |
| 05:50.02 | mahyar | xrandr is exactly what i wanted |
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| 05:58.43 | Soeki | where can i find official apt repositories for the US? |
| 05:58.57 | Soeki | ftp://us.debian.org? |
| 06:00.44 | Timtow | how do I install a .deb package? I use dpkg -i blah.deb, right? |
| 06:00.51 | rhalff | Soeki, http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 06:01.13 | Soeki | what should i put on the sources.list? |
| 06:01.23 | Soeki | i used the cdrom to install |
| 06:01.45 | rhalff | Soeki, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 06:01.47 | Soeki | so i guess i should use the internet from now on. |
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| 06:01.59 | Soeki | thanks |
| 06:02.06 | dabreegster | Timtow: Yes, but you really should use apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, etc. |
| 06:02.17 | rhalff | Soeki, but dunno if you want unstable.. |
| 06:02.20 | Soeki | im on sarge, that means i should put stable? |
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| 06:02.31 | Timtow | trying to install KVIRC 3.2, but it's not in the synaptic |
| 06:02.31 | rhalff | Soeki, yes |
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| 06:02.43 | rhalff | Soeki, just sarge not stable :) |
| 06:03.00 | rhalff | Soeki, just like the cdrom entry |
| 06:03.11 | Soeki | oh instead of stable i put sarge? |
| 06:03.12 | Soeki | good |
| 06:03.13 | Soeki | thanks |
| 06:03.25 | rhalff | Soeki, you also want deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main if it is not there yet. |
| 06:03.49 | dabreegster | This isn't really important, but what's the next character after Etch? |
| 06:03.50 | rhalff | you can use apt-spy to get the fastest mirror close to you. |
| 06:04.13 | rhalff | y ? |
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| 06:06.05 | Timtow | ok, so when I dpkg -i blah.deb it tells me failed because it depends on blah-data.deb...so I dpkg that and it tells me blah.deb is not configured..what do I have to do to get it installed? |
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| 06:10.27 | dondelelcaro | Timtow: /away |
| 06:12.07 | dondelelcaro | Timtow: rrr... sorry; you should dpkg -i blah.deb blah-data.deb; |
| 06:12.16 | dondelelcaro | Timtow: dpkg --configure -a; may also configure the unconfigured deb. |
| 06:12.36 | Timtow | awesome...got it anwyay thanks bunches |
| 06:12.57 | Timtow | I just happened to try the apt-get again and it FINALLY got the right version |
| 06:13.02 | Timtow | :D |
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| 06:21.37 | brownie17 | MoDaX, how can i fix this? "./admin/cvs.sh: line 13: autoconf: command not found" |
| 06:21.57 | MoDaX | brownie17: install autoconf |
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| 06:22.01 | MoDaX | :) |
| 06:22.26 | cat | true |
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| 06:22.50 | brownie17 | MoDaX, um, should i need autoconf to 'make' anything? |
| 06:22.55 | tjousk | 1 |
| 06:23.37 | MoDaX | brownie17: it's usually required to generate configure scripts and Makefiles |
| 06:23.52 | brownie17 | MoDaX, because i've made other stuff without it |
| 06:25.03 | MoDaX | brownie17: you're probably compiling unreleased version (e.g. from cvs) |
| 06:25.27 | brownie17 | MoDaX, yeah, it is cvs. i don't even know what that means but i thought it just meant it was the newest. |
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| 06:25.56 | MoDaX | brownie17: the newest and buggy :) |
| 06:26.25 | brownie17 | MoDaX, well considering this version was created because the last version didn't even work i guess this one is a better choice :D |
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| 06:26.32 | cat | brownie17: do apt-get install autconf |
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| 06:27.09 | brownie17 | cat, yeah i've done that, i'm waiting for it to ttry 'make'. so far it's working |
| 06:28.54 | cat | c00l |
| 06:29.00 | cat | the cvs is too damn bugy |
| 06:29.05 | cat | *buggy |
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| 06:36.45 | brownie17 | it's finally working! i got about 3-4 errors i had to fix all up while trying to make that darn program compile! |
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| 06:37.46 | brownie17 | MoDaX, thanks |
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| 06:42.32 | Gnea | it's time. |
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| 06:51.56 | Abe | hmm, can I obtain a list of installed package from the filesystem? the file I mean :) |
| 06:53.32 | cast | dpkg -l |
| 06:54.15 | sussudio | isn't it -L |
| 06:54.47 | cast | hmm, not quite sure what he was asking. -L would do list of pkg contents, -l list of installed pkgs |
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| 06:54.55 | Abe | sorry. I'm not booting that debian, just mounted it in another distro |
| 06:55.16 | Abe | so just wondering if I could retrive the package list I've installed. |
| 06:55.17 | netdaemon | chroot |
| 06:55.20 | netdaemon | =) |
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| 06:55.27 | lasindi[lappy] | Hi all, I'm trying to use xvfb-run for a program I need to run from a webpage. I've been googling for an xvfb tutorial, but I can't find any, and the man page hasn't been much help. I'm merely running the program with the command "xvfb-run program"; is that the correct way to use xvfb-run or am I missing something? |
| 06:55.33 | netdaemon | chroot /mnt/wheredebianis |
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| 07:00.07 | Abe | netdaemon, ahhh, that should work, thx :) |
| 07:00.28 | Abe | btw, is the list stored in a text file which I could easily access? |
| 07:00.32 | netdaemon | no prob =) |
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| 07:00.46 | netdaemon | what list are you trying to attain? |
| 07:01.10 | netdaemon | dpkg -l 2> foo.txt |
| 07:01.10 | dpkg | No packages found matching 2> foo.txt |
| 07:01.11 | Abe | list of my installed pkg |
| 07:01.20 | netdaemon | lol |
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| 07:01.40 | netdaemon | that will make you a text file |
| 07:01.42 | Abe | as if I'm not accessing it via GNU/Linux, then I can't chroot |
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| 07:02.15 | netdaemon | hm.. |
| 07:04.13 | netdaemon | i wouldn't have a clue =\ |
| 07:04.25 | netdaemon | but that will send the output of dpkg -l out to a text file... |
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| 07:05.42 | Abe | yep that would work also ;) |
| 07:06.03 | netdaemon | lol |
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| 07:14.13 | unix_infidel | is #mysql always so barren? |
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| 07:16.11 | damog | unix_infidel: how barren? |
| 07:16.44 | unix_infidel | heh, lots of people, no activity. |
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| 07:21.18 | loopdee | would anyone know why, in openoffice 2.0.2, i can only use the Times font, even though a lot show inthe list ? |
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| 07:25.35 | myren | swappiness is at 8, and still VMware siezes the shit up after going away for three days |
| 07:25.43 | myren | only 600mb used of 1gb ram |
| 07:25.47 | myren | fuck, ass. |
| 07:25.55 | cast | myren: xen! |
| 07:26.09 | myren | i'd need a new laptop to virtualize windows |
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| 07:26.12 | Guerin | vmware is shit, film at 11 |
| 07:26.21 | cydork | cast: is xen actually better than vmware?? |
| 07:26.22 | myren | and i'm not doign that till at least intel's merom |
| 07:26.31 | sng | Guerin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:26.39 | sng | Sup, dawg? |
| 07:26.39 | Guerin | if you want windows, just run windows |
| 07:26.54 | myren | um, "xen better than vmware" is like, i dunno, there's just no parallel to how rediculous such a comparison would be |
| 07:26.55 | cast | cydork: they're different kinds of virtualization. but in light of vmware being nonfree, yes, xen is better ;) |
| 07:26.58 | Guerin | sng: omglolz, broken bollarcone |
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| 07:27.08 | myren | Guerin: I want linux but I'm forced to use VS.Net |
| 07:27.10 | cydork | cast : :) |
| 07:27.18 | Guerin | sng: back in the frosty isles of the south pac |
| 07:27.24 | sng | Guerin: Ouch.... |
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| 07:27.40 | Guerin | sng: stupid gravity |
| 07:27.55 | Guerin | who needs it anyway |
| 07:28.04 | sng | Guerin: Yeah, living at the bottom of a gravity well sucks. |
| 07:28.08 | myren | vmware actually works ok for running simple vs.net, but it seems to like depaging theings a lot. |
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| 07:28.58 | sng | Guerin: Hope you get better fast and give em hell. I'm going to try to get more than three hours of sleep. Catch ya later, man. |
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| 07:30.24 | Guerin | sng: rgr. |
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| 07:34.56 | berkes | prolly the most stupid question ever: "how do I find out what version debian I am running?" |
| 07:35.13 | netdaemon | ............ |
| 07:35.18 | berkes | I took over a server from someone but forgot to ask what version he ran. |
| 07:35.21 | netdaemon | yes i have to agree with that |
| 07:35.42 | berkes | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.28 | netdaemon | what kernel? |
| 07:36.32 | cydork | berkes: dpkg -l|grep libc6 |
| 07:36.51 | cydork | berkes: what is the version for libc6? |
| 07:37.02 | berkes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:37.52 | cydork | berkes: you are running a testing os which is not updated in sometime :) |
| 07:38.02 | streuner | cydork: what does 'apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 07:38.43 | Silicon | cat /etc/issue |
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| 07:42.42 | berkes | cydork: thanks. I was afraid for that when I read my /etc/debian-version :) |
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| 07:45.07 | streuner | berkes: what does 'apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 07:45.48 | vlt | Hello. Does anyone know, how to define the interfaces/addresses vncserver should listen to? |
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| 07:48.43 | Vasistha | vlt: I believe it's just a matter of ports. |
| 07:48.52 | Vasistha | vlt: or, err, which port |
| 07:51.15 | vlt | Vasistha: "vncserver :1" start it listening on 0.0.0.0:5901, I know. If I want it to listen only to localhost and 192.168.0.0/16 can I craete a config file somewhere? |
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| 07:52.13 | vlt | Maybe the only way is to define an iptables rule ... |
| 07:52.36 | Vasistha | oh, yeah, you did ask what it should listen to ... it ought to be possible, but I don't know how to set it. Sorry, I'm very tired. |
| 07:52.57 | Vasistha | yeah, the firewall is an easy solution, but it would be nice to be able to set the vns server up properly as well |
| 07:53.07 | Vasistha | s/vns/vnc/ |
| 07:53.12 | junii | Hi, im running sarge and trying to customize xterm. At the moment its black text on a white background. Im following a tut from debian-administration which says to modift .Xresources file. However, it does not work... |
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| 07:54.10 | junii | im copying and pasteing in exactly what the tut says. |
| 07:54.14 | Vasistha | junii: did you restart xterm after saving the setting? |
| 07:54.20 | junii | yep |
| 07:54.52 | junii | the only thing I came across that wasn't in the tut is that I had to create the Xresources file myself it wasn't already there |
| 07:55.14 | junii | I have tried XResources and Xresources |
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| 07:56.17 | Vasistha | hmm... I don't have ~/.xresources or any such capitalization variant, however it looks like the xterm has picked up my kde colors... |
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| 07:57.15 | weissi | Vasistha, kde is able to color other apps (somewhere in kcontrol) itself (no idea how it makes it (no kde user)) |
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| 07:58.51 | Vasistha | junii: hmm, I've found something here that might be of use... |
| 07:59.19 | insmod | junii: just copy it from /etc/skel |
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| 08:01.02 | Vasistha | junii: I actually have a directory called /etc/Xresources and within it is xfree86-common |
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| 08:02.07 | junii | insmod; dont think that will work, xterm isn't by default with sarge |
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| 08:03.22 | junii | vasistha: dont have that folder. are you on stable or testing. besides I dont think it would be an xfree86 config file |
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| 08:04.07 | dealt | greetings! |
| 08:04.20 | brownie17 | greetings |
| 08:04.39 | dealt | hi! how can i move all files and directories with uid 1000 to dir tmp? |
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| 08:04.56 | trand | can i install etch on macbook? |
| 08:04.59 | cydork | junii: just a query cant you use command line options customising xterm? |
| 08:05.07 | dealt | find . -uid 1000 -exec ????? |
| 08:05.55 | Vasistha | dealt: better to use xargs, find . -uid 1000 -print0 | xargs -0 mv --target-directory=tmp |
| 08:06.06 | junii | cydork, yes but it will only work with that instance; I want to save settings |
| 08:06.45 | dealt | Vasistha: wow, it's the first time that im going to use xargs |
| 08:06.51 | dealt | Vasistha: tthanks! |
| 08:07.05 | Vasistha | dealt: it took me a while to get into it, but it's really wonderful |
| 08:08.19 | Vasistha | junii: yeah, kde is definitely coloring my xterm in some way :P sorry I can't be more helpful! |
| 08:08.40 | cydork | junii: then what about changing it in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm |
| 08:08.41 | pinky | I'm using a laptop with an Intel 855GM integrated graphics card and my xorg.conf says the driver is "i810", but projectM runs really slowly fullscreen... BUT all the other libvisual plugins I have run just fine! |
| 08:08.51 | cydork | junii: or /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color |
| 08:09.09 | pinky | Why is projectM being really really slow, when other libvisual plugins that use 3D rendering are fine? |
| 08:09.17 | pinky | Is it a problem with my video card being too slow? |
| 08:09.32 | pinky | Milkdrop worked *fine* under Windows on this same laptop, though... |
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| 08:10.03 | pinky | 3D rendering is working btw (I've got 3D desktop programs and other libvisual plugins that utilize 3D rendering run fine) |
| 08:10.10 | superlinux | I have setup everything in IPtables to make amule work... my forward and preroutiong chains are setup correctly on but still I have low ID |
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| 08:13.57 | superlinux | hello |
| 08:14.03 | superlinux | ma fee 7ad hown |
| 08:14.07 | superlinux | any one? |
| 08:14.14 | superlinux | azeem, hi |
| 08:15.21 | tarzeau | what's the config files for auto mount daemon? |
| 08:15.25 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 08:15.28 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:15.54 | superlinux | tarzeau |
| 08:15.58 | superlinux | I have setup everything in IPtables to make amule work... my forward and preroutiong chains are setup correctly on but still I have low ID |
| 08:16.13 | tarzeau | superlinux: i don't use iptables to block stuff, no idea |
| 08:16.18 | streuner | tarzeau: autofs? |
| 08:16.21 | superlinux | tarzeau, check under /etc |
| 08:16.28 | superlinux | tarzeau, thanks |
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| 08:16.47 | tarzeau | streuner: no |
| 08:16.49 | Vasistha | junii: tried .Xdefaults ? |
| 08:16.54 | tarzeau | superlinux: yes i wasn't able to find it |
| 08:17.01 | superlinux | ok |
| 08:17.04 | junii | hold on; rebooting |
| 08:17.14 | superlinux | hav you treid to do man? |
| 08:17.25 | streuner | tarzeau: what do you mean then? |
| 08:17.35 | junii | in the meantime has anybody used the kde 3.5 backport for sarge from stosberg? |
| 08:17.49 | superlinux | try that using kde's konqueror man:/ |
| 08:18.06 | Vasistha | junii: there's an interesting guide here: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20020202104217 ... and yeah, it looks like it needs to be set this way when X starts |
| 08:18.38 | cydork | junii: Try /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color |
| 08:18.40 | tarzeau | streuner: i've got debian:/export/pub on /amd/debian/root/export/pub type nfs (rw,vers=3,proto=tcp) |
| 08:18.41 | cydork | junii: Try /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm |
| 08:18.46 | tarzeau | streuner: but i don't find the configuration file for it |
| 08:19.00 | tarzeau | streuner: there's some /etc/auto.* script that might be it,.. but i don't get how it works |
| 08:19.30 | superlinux | tarzeau, apt-cache show am-utils |
| 08:20.13 | superlinux | tarzeau, apt-cache show am-utils-doc |
| 08:20.18 | superlinux | also that |
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| 08:23.18 | superlinux | people ! does this fstab option supermounting still exist? |
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| 08:23.47 | azeem | it's legacy, at least |
| 08:24.02 | superlinux | azeem, what is it for? I don't remember |
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| 08:26.30 | tarzeau | streuner: autofs and am stuff is not the same |
| 08:26.33 | superlinux | I am reading it from google |
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| 08:26.59 | superlinux | is't still working under linux 2.6? |
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| 08:32.13 | zrz | hi |
| 08:32.54 | vick | is there GUI interface for apt-get ? |
| 08:33.06 | vick | and is there no 'firefox' package ? |
| 08:33.15 | zrz | vick: synaptic |
| 08:33.16 | ft | vick: synaptic i think |
| 08:33.25 | blondie | vick: apt-cache search firefox |
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| 08:35.57 | RzR | how to list all running services ? |
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| 08:36.35 | wy | hi, have anyone experience with using shared library with dlopen() and dlsym()...? |
| 08:37.24 | infernix | it seems my root ext3 partition is messed up, how do I enforce an fsck at reboot? |
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| 08:39.20 | pinky | How do I check if my username is in the group "video"? |
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| 08:39.49 | cast | pinky: groups command |
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| 08:41.22 | Vasistha | RzR: ps aux |
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| 08:41.45 | Vasistha | infernix: man tune2fs |
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| 08:42.50 | RzR | Vasistha: aint it a debian way ? |
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| 08:43.02 | infernix | vasish: that doesnt work for ext3 iirc, the -c X -C X parameter |
| 08:43.48 | Vasistha | RzR: I don't fully understand what you mean with your malformed sentence, but ps aux is certainly a debian way ... what were you looking for? Perhaps you're referring to the /etc/rc system? |
| 08:44.21 | vick | How do i know the version of fluxbox installed on sarge ? |
| 08:44.23 | insmod | pinky: just edit /etc/group |
| 08:44.46 | chowmeined | hey could someone help me? |
| 08:44.52 | chowmeined | im trying to get ntalkd and ytalk to work |
| 08:45.07 | Vasistha | vick: dpkg -l packagename |
| 08:45.23 | Vasistha | vick: err, dpkg -l fluxbox |
| 08:45.33 | Vasistha | vick: or of course you can check packages.debian.org |
| 08:45.47 | vick | Vasistha, Thanks a lot |
| 08:45.57 | tarzeau | MoDaX: you know the openoffice.org 2 deb packages crash when you save a document? |
| 08:45.59 | Vasistha | vick: you're welcome, enjoy! |
| 08:46.03 | tarzeau | MoDaX: especially when you have nfs? |
| 08:46.17 | tarzeau | MoDaX: piece of shit stuff really. can't they do better? |
| 08:46.21 | RzR | Vasistha: yes, i wish there was a command wich list all started services from rc.d |
| 08:46.29 | chowmeined | i have them installed and setup in xinetd... i checked netstat -tua and it shows that ntalkd is listening but whenver i try to do talk someuser it says no talk daemon is running |
| 08:47.26 | Vasistha | RzR: ...and you're not happy with ls /etc/rcS.d /etc/rc2.d ? |
| 08:48.03 | RzR | Vasistha: root can have stoped some and started others .. |
| 08:48.17 | chowmeined | ps aux? |
| 08:48.41 | RzR | i wanted to make the differences between servcices and process |
| 08:49.28 | Vasistha | RzR: so... what you're saying is... you want to get a list of the services that would be started by rcS.d and rc2.d (or whatever runlevel you're on) and compare it to the list on ps aux to see which services have been stopped? |
| 08:49.31 | ktwilight | has anyone upgrade to kernel 2.6.17 successfully on etch? |
| 08:50.39 | streuner | on unstable, what's the question? |
| 08:50.47 | MoDaX | tarzeau: works for me |
| 08:51.10 | MoDaX | tarzeau: I'm using unstable though |
| 08:51.27 | MoDaX | tarzeau: and don't use nfs |
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| 08:51.30 | pinky | I have this error in my Xorg.0.log: |
| 08:51.39 | pinky | (EE) I810(0): [dri] I830DRIScreenInit failed because of a version mismatch |
| 08:51.40 | pinky | [dri] i915 kernel module is 1.1.0 but version 1.4 or greater is needed. |
| 08:51.41 | wy | I've got a problem visiting a global variable from a shared library. Any ideas? |
| 08:51.48 | pinky | [dri] Disabling DRI. |
| 08:51.56 | pinky | How do I fix this? Any suggestions? |
| 08:52.01 | ktwilight | don't paste in here pinky :/ |
| 08:52.14 | pinky | 3 lines? =/ |
| 08:52.17 | tarzeau | MoDaX: i see |
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| 08:52.27 | tarzeau | MoDaX: can you use nfs? you don't use the debian package, right? |
| 08:52.30 | MoDaX | pinky: is your kernel too old? |
| 08:52.50 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: it means that the kernel DRI driver is too old... I don't recall whether Debian packages newer DRI drivers separately or not but normally you'd upgrade your kernel |
| 08:52.59 | MoDaX | tarzeau: I'm exclusively using OOo debian packages |
| 08:53.16 | tarzeau | MoDaX: but they can't be installed along oo1 |
| 08:53.17 | pinky | I'm using stock Etch kernel... 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 08:53.22 | tarzeau | MoDaX: remember? yesterday? |
| 08:53.28 | tarzeau | pinky: poor you |
| 08:53.30 | lakez | anyone know an IRCop that is alive ? |
| 08:53.34 | pinky | Is that too old though? |
| 08:53.37 | vick | "debian stable" uses Xorg / Xfree86 ? |
| 08:53.39 | Edward_TLS | I/m looking for a good hosting company in the US |
| 08:53.40 | tarzeau | !ops lakez |
| 08:53.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: tarzeau complains about: lakez |
| 08:53.45 | MoDaX | tarzeau: yes, but I don't care about ooo1 :) |
| 08:53.52 | streuner | lakez: why? |
| 08:54.00 | tarzeau | MoDaX: i don't care for any openoffice |
| 08:54.04 | lakez | cause 2 pricks are fucking up #mysql .. flooding the channel and no ops around |
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| 08:54.21 | tarzeau | lakez: #freenode |
| 08:54.30 | tarzeau | lakez: you are the off-topic prick here |
| 08:54.42 | MoDaX | tarzeau: you seem to care about both :) |
| 08:54.52 | tarzeau | MoDaX: some users here, not me |
| 08:54.53 | streuner | lakez: /msg chanserv access #mysql list |
| 08:54.54 | lakez | tarzeau, he asked |
| 08:55.56 | MoDaX | tarzeau: so what is the situation? which versions crash? |
| 08:56.08 | tarzeau | MoDaX: the one downloaded from the .cz site you gave me |
| 08:56.09 | chowmeined | any ideas why ytalk wont work? |
| 08:56.18 | tarzeau | MoDaX: the tarball with the debian packages in it, 2.0.3 |
| 08:56.21 | vick | i opened krandrtray but it dosn't have a screen size more than 800x600, why is that ? |
| 08:56.24 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: the driver in 2.16.15 seems to be 1.4.0... not sure where 1.1.0 is coming from |
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| 08:56.54 | MoDaX | tarzeau: ok, what about ooo 2.0.1 from bpo? |
| 08:56.56 | Vasistha | vick: probably because of the resolutions that exist in your X conf |
| 08:57.02 | guilherme-jorge- | hello all, I need to copy a partition with 51GB(7GB used) to another HD. Is more quick do this using dd or cp? |
| 08:57.03 | Vasistha | !drxx |
| 08:57.03 | dpkg | it has been said that drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 08:57.06 | vick | Vasistha, How do i change that ? |
| 08:57.12 | Vasistha | vick: ^^^ |
| 08:57.19 | pinky | Ex-Cyber: IS there a way to force loading the 1.4.0 driver? |
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| 08:57.41 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: I don't even know why you'd have a 1.1.0 driver |
| 08:57.58 | RzR | Vasistha: yea kind of |
| 08:58.04 | Vasistha | guilherme-jorge-: probably use cp, that won't copy slack space or anything |
| 08:58.28 | RzR | Vasistha: dont every serice put its pid somewhere in /var ? |
| 08:58.58 | Vasistha | RzR: well... in all honesty, the "Debian Way" to do that (AFAIK) is to familiarize yourself with the services your system is running so you are familiar with everything that shows up in ps |
| 08:59.16 | tarzeau | MoDaX: it can't be installed along version 1 |
| 08:59.22 | RzR | ok i will do |
| 08:59.26 | Vasistha | RzR: /var/run |
| 08:59.38 | RzR | Vasistha: I'll may end to make a user friendly script |
| 08:59.47 | MoDaX | tarzeau: but it can be installed along OOo 1 from openoffice.org |
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| 09:00.01 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: can you join #flood for a bit? |
| 09:00.03 | tarzeau | MoDaX: GNAAA |
| 09:00.24 | Vasistha | RzR: yeah, for new folks some kinda script to get familiar with the running services would probably useful |
| 09:00.57 | pinky | Ex-Cyber: I'm there |
| 09:01.36 | Vasistha | guilherme-jorge-: also you might check out rsync ... and I know there's a program specifically made for copying whole partitions, including the /dev tree, perhaps tar |
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| 09:02.58 | MoDaX | tarzeau: and OOo 1 should be long gone anyway. It does not support OpenDocument. And OOo 2 is not so different |
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| 09:04.30 | tarzeau | MoDaX: you know we have antique users? |
| 09:04.41 | tarzeau | MoDaX: you know oo1 documents don't look like original in oo2? |
| 09:04.47 | tarzeau | MoDaX: you know all openoffice just sucks? |
| 09:06.15 | azeem | tarzeau: many people use impress at least |
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| 09:07.17 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: well, not sure what's going on... it's kind of strange |
| 09:07.49 | pinky | One thing that may be noteworthy: I have Unreal Tournament installed on here and it worked FINE last night |
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| 09:08.00 | pinky | Using SDL OpenGL rendering |
| 09:08.18 | Ex-Cyber | what chipset do you actually have? |
| 09:08.20 | pinky | And now, after I updated X.Org from 6.9 --> 7.0 UT runs at like .5 fps |
| 09:08.34 | Ex-Cyber | I just looked and the 915 DRM driver in 2.6.15 is 1.1.0 |
| 09:08.35 | pinky | Erm, it's a Dell Latitude D500 |
| 09:08.45 | pinky | Let me check my xorg.conf |
| 09:09.06 | pinky | lspci says: "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)" |
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| 09:09.23 | Ex-Cyber | yeah, just found the product brief :) |
| 09:10.21 | pinky | I mean, this same laptop ran Milkdrop FINE under Windows so I know the card is good enough at openGL to DO it |
| 09:10.44 | pinky | But the thing is, before when I had X.Org 6.9 and UT ran fine, projectM was STILL running slowly! |
| 09:11.13 | pinky | I have a new issue now, though, because OpenGL apparently isn't running at all |
| 09:11.30 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: I found a page suggesting that the appropriate kernel module for that chipset family is i830 |
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| 09:11.44 | Ex-Cyber | but that one is only 1.3.2 in 2.6.15 |
| 09:12.28 | pinky | Is there a package I need to get? |
| 09:12.41 | pinky | Or should this be included in the stock Etch kernel package? |
| 09:12.49 | Ex-Cyber | I'm not 100% sure but I think what's going on is that you somehow got a new version of the X.Org video driver when you updated, and that new version needs a newer version of the DRM driver |
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| 09:13.29 | pinky | Oh, and glxinfo tells me that "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect" |
| 09:13.52 | Ex-Cyber | yeah, because the X.Org driver won't talk to your DRM driver |
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| 09:14.34 | pinky | What's DRM refer to in this case? |
| 09:14.45 | pinky | I'm used to it being Digital Restrictions Management =P |
| 09:14.50 | blondie | Digital Rights Management |
| 09:14.59 | blondie | *Manglement |
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| 09:15.45 | azeem | blondie: s/Rights/Restriction/ |
| 09:15.48 | pinky | Ex-Cyber: So do you have any ideas on how to go about fixing it? |
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| 09:16.29 | Ex-Cyber | pinky: aside from using a newer kernel, no... but there is some discussion here that looks relevant (i think this is for sid rather than etch though): http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/231.html |
| 09:16.45 | Ex-Cyber | anyway, I need to get to bed... hope you can find something useful at that page |
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| 09:16.59 | simmerz_ | I've just installed libsvn0 and it is supposed to contain usr/lib/libsvn_swig_py*, but none of these files have been installed. any ideas how to get them there? |
| 09:17.05 | simmerz_ | using sarge |
| 09:17.05 | nuke | how do i find wha user/group apache runso n my comp? |
| 09:17.10 | vick | what's the default mixer that gets with sarge ? |
| 09:17.16 | vick | i tried alsamixer, wasn't it |
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| 09:18.10 | nuke | vick: try kmix/er or amix/er |
| 09:18.38 | MoDaX | simmerz_: try installing python-subversion |
| 09:18.53 | pred|A | I've found that, compared to windows drivers, the alsa drivers on two different machines sound substantially worse. Is this a well known fact? |
| 09:19.17 | Guerin | pred|A: rather depends on the sound card |
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| 09:19.46 | simmerz_ | MoDaX: as opposed to python2.3-subversion? |
| 09:19.51 | nuke | pred|A there are manu adjustments you can make like speaker position/equaliser |
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| 09:20.43 | Guerin | nuke: i think what he's saying is that when all else is equal... |
| 09:20.51 | MoDaX | simmerz_: python-subversion is a metapackage which depends on python2.3-subversion |
| 09:20.58 | Guerin | if he's not, then he's not really said anythin |
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| 09:21.31 | simmerz_ | can't find python-subversion, but already have python2.3-subversion installed |
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| 09:22.51 | nuke | Guerin well...eveyone ive alked to told me that sound in linux>>>sound in windows |
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| 09:23.50 | knight3 | hey guys has anyone had issues with firefox with a fresh install |
| 09:24.04 | knight3 | mine seems to have issues loading pages |
| 09:24.18 | azeem | what kind of "issues" exactly? |
| 09:24.27 | knight3 | it seems to have issues resolving pages |
| 09:24.37 | azeem | knight3: is internet working otherwise? |
| 09:24.42 | nuke | knight3 what problem? |
| 09:24.42 | knight3 | sure is |
| 09:24.49 | azeem | knight3: do you need a proxy? |
| 09:24.54 | junii | in sarge I have the sound turned up to the last in KsCD and still its not max, where is there another "master" sound setting |
| 09:24.56 | infernix | hmm. my root partition claims it has no free space left. df -h says it has (1.8GB free). a du -s -m -c /* doesnt show any huge files and the calculations are correct. it's mounted rw, yet I can't create any file due to "no space left on device". any ideas what this might be? it's ext3fs |
| 09:24.57 | azeem | knight3: so "ping www.google.com" works? |
| 09:25.02 | knight3 | it appears to only be issues with say firefox or if i use konquer |
| 09:25.09 | knight3 | nah i dont proxy |
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| 09:25.24 | knight3 | yes man it works lol im a network engineer trust me theres internet connectivity |
| 09:25.30 | Guerin | nuke: the only differences i've noticed, on decently functional chipsets, is that windows sometimes chokes on sound whend when under high load, whereas linux virtually never does |
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| 09:25.41 | azeem | knight3: uhm, ok |
| 09:25.45 | Guerin | unless you use arts or something |
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| 09:25.46 | knight3 | lol |
| 09:25.54 | possie | anyone that knows the name of the extension that downloads in a tab instead of the annoying popup window? |
| 09:26.05 | azeem | knight3: so what you are saying is that internet works, but not html? |
| 09:26.13 | nuke | knight3 : you are an enginner...so tell us engineer like what the problem is |
| 09:26.21 | azeem | or do other html browsers like epiphany or lynx or links work? |
| 09:26.21 | knight3 | it would appear only to be when it trying to resolve pages from a browser it has issues from the terminal its fine |
| 09:27.13 | azeem | knight3: so "http://192.25.206.10" works fine? |
| 09:27.15 | jez | How can i get 'rpm' to automatically download and install dependencies? |
| 09:27.28 | pred|A | Guerin, nuke, with my nforce 4 onboard (home) and intel ICH4 onboard (work) I'm dual booting both windows and debian. The is a substantial quality difference at home and a minor difference at work. |
| 09:27.30 | azeem | jez: ask in an rpm related channel, please |
| 09:27.38 | Eulex | jez, umh, it doesn't |
| 09:27.53 | knight3 | yea that works azeem |
| 09:27.55 | Eulex | jez, why would you want to even use it, btw? |
| 09:28.02 | knight3 | bit slow but yea it works |
| 09:28.24 | knight3 | im trying to load google now but eee takes so long |
| 09:28.32 | knight3 | i guess it could be a dns issue |
| 09:28.49 | azeem | knight3: firefox doesn't use a special resolver TTBOMK |
| 09:29.16 | azeem | knight3: so does www.google.com work, or is just slow? |
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| 09:29.30 | Guerin | !onboard |
| 09:29.31 | dpkg | All onboard sound, video, raid, network and modem cards suck great big donkey balls, and there's nothing you can do about it. unless your time is worth nothing, give up and buy a real card. This goes triple for raid. see tardware |
| 09:29.34 | simmerz_ | MoDaX: so how do i get that file to install? |
| 09:29.34 | knight3 | azeem> i just did a ping on google.com and then went to http://googleip that the terminal resolved and its perfect speed |
| 09:29.44 | azeem | knight3: ok |
| 09:29.52 | knight3 | it would seem that firefix itself is having issue resolving names |
| 09:30.05 | azeem | that's strange |
| 09:30.06 | knight3 | firefox* |
| 09:30.10 | knight3 | yea i know |
| 09:30.17 | azeem | knight3: can you try with lynx? |
| 09:30.40 | knight3 | havnt got it installed |
| 09:30.57 | knight3 | giv me a min i will install |
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| 09:31.26 | nuke | knight3 did you set a dns in your prefs? |
| 09:31.35 | knight3 | firefox pref? |
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| 09:31.42 | nuke | network pref |
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| 09:31.48 | knight3 | yea |
| 09:31.50 | azeem | nuke: you mean /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 09:31.54 | knight3 | its using my router |
| 09:32.01 | knight3 | yea i think that is wat he means lol |
| 09:32.17 | nuke | ya |
| 09:32.25 | junii | when booting up I get a prompt in the middle of bootup saying enter root password for maintenance or press ctrl & d to continue. What is this |
| 09:32.31 | azeem | knight3: what about ssh? |
| 09:32.47 | MoDaX | simmerz_: search on packages.debian.org |
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| 09:32.58 | nuke | junii:your comp had a bad shutdown so somehting may have got corrupted |
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| 09:33.17 | pred|A | Guerin, I get the point :P |
| 09:33.39 | junii | nuke: it allows comes up. should I just run maintenance? What does maintenance do? |
| 09:33.45 | junii | *always |
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| 09:33.58 | kungfugoat | I've been googling but I can't figure out why ubuntu 6.06 is not recognizing my external usb hard disks |
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| 09:34.16 | kungfugoat | I can plug a compact flash card in the usb 6-in-1 reader and it pops up on the desktop |
| 09:34.19 | blondie | !ubuntu |
| 09:34.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. An Ancient African word that means "I can't install Debian", according to Mark Pilgrim |
| 09:34.28 | blondie | kungfugoat: please ask in #ubuntu rather than here |
| 09:34.45 | kungfugoat | isn't ubuntu based off of debian? |
| 09:34.52 | blondie | yes, |
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| 09:35.03 | knight3 | azeem: lynx seems to have the same issue if i put the name in takes forever may not even load ip i put ip in its fine |
| 09:35.04 | blondie | but that doesn't make it the same... and we don't/won't support it :) |
| 09:35.11 | azeem | kungfugoat: it's heavily modified, though |
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| 09:35.30 | kungfugoat | azeem: that makes sense now :( |
| 09:35.47 | nuke | knight3 seems your dns is not working/wrong |
| 09:35.54 | knight3 | azeem: ssh is also partially slow, but only after i enter a username, it seems to hang for about 20 seconds between username and password prompt |
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| 09:36.04 | azeem | knight3: hrm |
| 09:36.07 | azeem | ah! |
| 09:36.13 | azeem | knight3: do you have sudo? |
| 09:36.22 | azeem | try "sudo bash", is that slow as well? |
| 09:36.27 | knight3 | nuke: would there not be an issue when trying to say ping google.com for instance from terminal (this resolves instantly) |
| 09:37.07 | knight3 | azeem: nah that goes through instantly |
| 09:37.11 | azeem | hrm |
| 09:37.26 | azeem | knight3: can you paste /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts to a pastebin? |
| 09:37.28 | azeem | !paster |
| 09:37.28 | dpkg | [pastebin] a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 09:37.32 | Guerin | knight3: some sshen delay on purpose to prevent attackers from finding out what's a real username and what's not |
| 09:37.43 | azeem | knight3: you didn't modify something like /etc/nsswitch.conf or so, right? |
| 09:37.54 | knight3 | azeem: nah |
| 09:38.48 | knight3 | my resolve config contains 2 lines. one for the domain i set and the second one contains the ip of my router |
| 09:39.02 | Kizmet | knight3, do what I did, Change your SSH port to somthing higher. |
| 09:39.11 | Kizmet | in the 2XXX range is good :P |
| 09:39.19 | azeem | Kizmet: eh, this is not the issue |
| 09:39.49 | Kizmet | hmm |
| 09:40.02 | junii | where do I find the C header files? |
| 09:40.11 | knight3 | azeem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3055 |
| 09:40.11 | azeem | junii: in /usr/include |
| 09:40.36 | junii | what about the kernel headers? |
| 09:41.04 | azeem | junii: as well, mostly under /usr/include/linux I think |
| 09:41.04 | Guerin | junii: in 'man find' and 'man apt-file' |
| 09:41.06 | Kizmet | azeem, its the DNS lookup for the ip address. Set your name servers to somthing prominent like a large ISP and also add in your /etc/hosts the IP of the machine you are trying to ssh from in your local lan. |
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| 09:41.23 | azeem | Kizmet: I think you mean knight3 |
| 09:41.28 | knight3 | lol |
| 09:41.33 | Kizmet | azeem, whoops :( |
| 09:41.59 | nuke | knight3 wheres your resolv.conf |
| 09:42.06 | knight3 | 2 secs |
| 09:42.10 | azeem | knight3: what does "host www.google.com" say on the command line? |
| 09:42.20 | azeem | or rather, does it take long as well? |
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| 09:43.08 | knight3 | azeem: host www.google.com responds instantly with a list of google sites and appropriate ip address |
| 09:43.16 | azeem | ok |
| 09:43.22 | azeem | well, I'm out of ideas at this point |
| 09:43.28 | knight3 | me to |
| 09:43.37 | azeem | knight3: you could try to sniff your network with tcpdump or something, maybe |
| 09:43.39 | knight3 | its really odd |
| 09:43.46 | knight3 | thats not a bad idea |
| 09:44.09 | knight3 | hadnt thought about sniffing probably should have been the first thing i tried |
| 09:44.14 | nuke | how will that help |
| 09:44.18 | azeem | knight3: you're not running bind or another named on the box either, do you? |
| 09:44.28 | knight3 | nah |
| 09:45.04 | azeem | knight3: also, the idea of putting a well-known dns server into /etc/resolv.conf in front of your router's might be an idea as well |
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| 09:45.30 | barbie | Hello, i am new to linux and i was wondering how do i can i make all.zip from the directory all ? |
| 09:45.36 | knight3 | azeem: i'll giv it a try rather then my router ip shall put my isps dns servers |
| 09:45.56 | raf256 | how to tell SSHD to recreate new server private key? |
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| 09:46.09 | raf256 | and to store it in /etc/ssh.other/... ? |
| 09:46.10 | Guerin | Romano2K: omgrtfm |
| 09:46.15 | Guerin | drnit |
| 09:46.18 | knight3 | thanks for the help guys im off now to watch state of origin |
| 09:46.23 | Guerin | raf256: see my advice to Romano2K |
| 09:46.31 | barbie | hello |
| 09:46.44 | azeem | barbie: linux mostly uses tar as archive format |
| 09:46.48 | jelly-home | Guerin: and a good eloquent advice it is! |
| 09:46.59 | barbie | azeem, Any kind of compression would do :D |
| 09:47.01 | azeem | barbie: do you need to send that to people running Windows? |
| 09:47.02 | raf256 | <Guerin> Romano2K: let's meet at midnight, I will hold a pink rose in hand <-- ? how that is going to help my ssh problem |
| 09:47.07 | azeem | !tar |
| 09:47.08 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 09:47.12 | barbie | azeem, no i was to transfer |
| 09:47.37 | simmerz_ | MoDaX: thats what I did. it says the file is in libsvn0, but when i install that, the file doesn't get installed |
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| 09:47.58 | LinuxHelp | war95, ping? |
| 09:48.16 | Guerin | !gothsmite raf256 |
| 09:49.00 | MoDaX | simmerz_: ls -l /usr/lib/libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0 |
| 09:49.28 | jelly-home | raf256: you could check how the package itself creates the host key. |
| 09:49.56 | MoDaX | simmerz_: and dpkg -l libsvn0 | grep ii |
| 09:49.58 | raf256 | either generate them using ssh-keygen or copy them from a cluster member |
| 09:50.19 | raf256 | so I create the server key with ssh-keygen, same way that users create their USER keys for public key authorization>? |
| 09:51.17 | simmerz_ | MoDaX: like i said, its not there. and why is the ii line important? |
| 09:51.20 | Guerin | raf256: you havn't rtfmed yet, and my rtfm bat is looking mighty batworthy |
| 09:51.35 | fireba11 | Guerin: hahaha |
| 09:51.45 | MoDaX | simmerz_: reinstall the package |
| 09:52.02 | simmerz_ | done that already |
| 09:52.47 | MoDaX | simmerz_: dpkg -L libsvn0 | grep 'libsvn_swig_py-1' |
| 09:52.48 | raf256 | Guerin: man sshd do not cover creatinon of sshd server key, it only informs that the key is NOT auto generated |
| 09:53.12 | MoDaX | simmerz_: any results? |
| 09:53.35 | simmerz_ | MoDaX: no |
| 09:53.46 | simmerz_ | which means that packages.debian.org is wrong |
| 09:54.21 | ktwilight | what is LBA32? |
| 09:54.30 | MoDaX | simmerz_: no, it's not |
| 09:55.00 | simmerz_ | oh? |
| 09:55.12 | MoDaX | simmerz_: that file exists on my sarge box in the libsvn0 package |
| 09:55.26 | Guerin | ktwilight: it's something you need if you have big harddisks |
| 09:55.38 | MoDaX | simmerz_: paste result of dpkg -l libsvn0 | grep ii |
| 09:55.47 | ktwilight | what's considered as big? |
| 09:55.55 | ktwilight | 120g+? |
| 09:55.56 | simmerz_ | ii libsvn0 1.2.3dfsg1-2bp shared libraries used by Subversion (aka. sv |
| 09:56.07 | wols_ | ktwilight: 1-2GB in that case |
| 09:56.20 | ktwilight | oh |
| 09:56.21 | MoDaX | simmerz_: it's from backports.org |
| 09:56.25 | wols_ | LBA32 is old stuff 486 and P5 days |
| 09:56.26 | ktwilight | so i must enable it ten |
| 09:56.29 | simmerz_ | ah, thats the problem then. |
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| 09:57.17 | Guerin | no hardware should be asking about lba32 nowadays |
| 09:57.33 | Mnabil | is there's real time embbeded distro for debian ?! |
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| 09:58.02 | azeem | Mnabil: Debian is a distro, how can a distro be for Debian? |
| 09:58.28 | Mnabil | azeem, sorry , i means a release or a project |
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| 09:58.46 | azeem | Mnabil: not that I know of |
| 10:02.38 | bradd | hey guys.. is vim 7 available for debian etch? |
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| 10:03.01 | Supaplex | only avid etch users know that |
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| 10:03.15 | uws | the "localedef" program is not present anymore in sid, but this is required to configure locales. Any clue on how to fix this? |
| 10:03.47 | Supaplex | bradd: check packages.debian.org. |
| 10:03.51 | bradd | ok |
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| 10:06.34 | uws | hmmm libc6 and locales --reinstall worked :) |
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| 10:14.15 | lakez | is there a way to force a program to SEGFAULT ? |
| 10:14.59 | jelly-home | kill -SEGV <pid> ;-) |
| 10:16.01 | jelly-home | that's not "forcing it" though, just sending the darn signal. |
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| 10:16.24 | cast | anyonw know what that quite message refers to? o_0 |
| 10:16.28 | adrakoa | lakez, if this made well.. not |
| 10:16.34 | bradd | jelly-home: you mean in the source code? |
| 10:16.39 | cast | s/quite/quit |
| 10:16.49 | lakez | i was hoping you could .. kill -SEGFAULT_11 <pid> |
| 10:17.00 | adrakoa | hehe |
| 10:17.10 | nkuttler | lakez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault ... |
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| 10:17.50 | jelly-home | lakez: the signal is called SEGV, not "SEGFAULT_11" |
| 10:18.12 | Eulex | lakez, if you're willing to edit the source, just add *((int*) 0) = 0; in the appropriate place... |
| 10:18.26 | jelly-home | lakez: man 7 signal |
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| 10:19.20 | lakez | hrmm so you may be able to kill -SEGV pid then.. hrmm .. reading the man 7 now |
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| 10:19.29 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 10:19.34 | vick | when i run xterm -e "cd /somedir" , the window opens and then suddenly closes |
| 10:19.36 | lakez | Eulex, it's mysqld ... i think there is a bug when it segfaults and innodb+temporary tables don't get cleaned up |
| 10:19.36 | vick | why does this happen ? |
| 10:19.56 | cydork | vick : coz the execution of command is complete |
| 10:20.18 | vick | cydork, How do i make it run an xterm then ? |
| 10:20.22 | vick | for that dir i mean |
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| 10:20.30 | Eulex | lakez, well, if it segfaults, it will exit directly and will have no chance of cleaning up anything :) |
| 10:20.33 | TuxMeister | ehm, i have a pinnacle-systems pctv broadcast capture card, and i wanna know what packages i need to make it work |
| 10:21.12 | lakez | Eulex, yeah ... that's what i'm testing tho.. temporary tables in innodb should be cleaned up or at least able to drop them on next loading.. but as it stands now.. it won't address the files even tho they're on the disk |
| 10:21.28 | ktwilight | i'm doing a kernel upgrade in sarge off backports, grub is removed by apt and lilo instlaled. in lilo.conf there's an option for a map file, but i can't find one in /boot/map, should ij ust leave it out in lilo.conf? |
| 10:21.29 | bradd | vick: you can xterm -e "cd /path ; /bin/bash" |
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| 10:21.46 | bradd | substitute path and bash with your likings |
| 10:21.47 | lindenle | Can someone suggest a good german-english dictionary for my machine |
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| 10:22.02 | ktwilight | according to lilo.conf man, "Specifies the location of the map file. If `map' is omitted, the file /boot/map is used." i can omit it, but then it'll look for it at /boot/map which i don't have. what should i do? |
| 10:22.24 | nkuttler | lindenle: ding |
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| 10:23.19 | Eulex | lakez, you could kill the mysqld process uncleanly, with the 9 signal. that wil cause it to exit without having a chance of doing anything. |
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| 10:25.27 | lindenle | nkuttler: I will check it out sofort |
| 10:26.05 | itchi | Hello guys :-) What is that thing again that are running at night and is called 'index++'? That thing take more and more time on my little P2 |
| 10:27.13 | cast | itchi: the locate db?, updatedb? |
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| 10:27.49 | fireedo | hi everybody :) |
| 10:27.58 | lindenle | nkuttler: yeah this does not work.... |
| 10:28.05 | itchi | cast: I not remember, i think not, i think it's an tool of dwww, ifo2www or somethings like that |
| 10:28.20 | cast | itchi: check your daily crontabs |
| 10:28.20 | jelly-home | cast, itchi: locate uses find and frcode. find uses most of the cpu. |
| 10:28.29 | nkuttler | !tell lindenle about doesn't work |
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| 10:29.06 | lindenle | nkuttler: ha ha.... i mean how do I start ding so that it displays anything other than a grey box ;) |
| 10:29.11 | itchi | He is now running for 4441:46 :-/ |
| 10:29.53 | fireedo | umm...I saw DVD etch iso and it's has 3 iso's .....does any1 know where I can get the list packages that etch has? |
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| 10:30.41 | cydork | fireedo: check http://packages.debian.org/testing/ |
| 10:30.47 | jelly-home | itchi: dpkg -S index++ might help. you can also see what files does the process keep open with "lsof -p <pid>" |
| 10:31.06 | nkuttler | lindenle: um... it only shows a grey box? are you running sarge? |
| 10:31.17 | fireedo | cydork:ah..thanx a lot :) |
| 10:31.29 | lindenle | nkuttler: nopers ;) |
| 10:31.47 | nkuttler | lindenle: grep the dictionary file then |
| 10:31.57 | lindenle | no problem |
| 10:32.25 | itchi | It's looks like there are not crontab -l |
| 10:32.50 | itchi | jelly: That's very usefull ^^. I look to ;-) |
| 10:32.50 | jelly-home | itchi: /etc/cron.daily/*, /etc/cron.d/* |
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| 10:34.51 | fireedo | where I can get the most up2date etch's DVD iso's? |
| 10:35.07 | Supaplex | so you can waste b/w? |
| 10:35.08 | itchi | jelly: Yeah, with 'dpkg -S index++' dwww: /usr/sbin/dwww-index++, swish++: /usr/bin/index++ and also the man page of these 2, it's that swish++ thing i think, but dwww need it |
| 10:35.17 | Supaplex | net install not good enough for you? :) |
| 10:35.30 | fireedo | me? |
| 10:36.02 | fireedo | sorry....but idont have fast internet connection |
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| 10:36.28 | fireedo | I just have dial up connection and limited to 1 Gb/month |
| 10:36.39 | Supaplex | well that's one good reason. |
| 10:36.44 | fireedo | :) |
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| 10:37.27 | Supaplex | Indonesia dialup eh. yumm yumm. |
| 10:37.42 | fireedo | :) yup.... |
| 10:37.55 | itchi | jelly-home: It's been that swish++ thing ;-) |
| 10:38.07 | Walther | hi! I m a forced linuxuser since last weekend. I ve read whatever I could, but I feel I need expert advice now. Anyone of you so kind to help a 50+y/o no-technician with a debian/xfs/fstab(?)/lots-of-ide-hdd problem? |
| 10:38.32 | Supaplex | !jigdo |
| 10:38.32 | dpkg | from memory, jigdo is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 10:38.34 | cydork | fireedo: if you want to buy dvds then you should check http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 10:38.43 | Eulex | Walther, just ask instead |
| 10:39.22 | fireedo | Supaplex,cydork:ok ....ty :) |
| 10:40.07 | itchi | Exist that here '!cold beer' :-p Like it's hot here :-) |
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| 10:42.15 | Walther | alright: i have 8 ide-hdds in a newly installed debian computer. our tech said, all hdds were formatted(?) with xfs filesystem. now my company wants me to gather data from these hdds, but i m unable to mount them. with "mount -t xfs /dev/hda /mnt/hda" it returns: "/dev/hda1 ist not a valid block device". (i m sorry: i m old and totally new to linux - i ve dug into this matter since weekend, so forgive me if i ve not come very far)) |
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| 10:44.28 | nuke | Walther try mount -t xfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda |
| 10:45.29 | Walther | i ve tried this already, but the result is the same. looks like the computer doesn t recognize the device as a hdd |
| 10:45.53 | Walther | (sry, if i get technical terms wrong or use them in a funny way - its my first approach to that ;-) ) |
| 10:46.52 | Supaplex | Walther: peek at /proc/partitions |
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| 10:47.07 | Supaplex | partitions* |
| 10:47.18 | Supaplex | yea, I thought it was a typo. :P |
| 10:48.06 | Supaplex | or maybe he's using that wacko /dev/ide0/device0/foo/etc/ whatever it was... |
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| 10:49.11 | Walther | cat /proc/partitions returns some lines, all with a scsi in them. the hdds i have problems with are ide ones. the boot hdd is a scsi hdd. |
| 10:49.40 | Walther | there are no lines with "ide" in them |
| 10:49.45 | Supaplex | plain old ide or sata? |
| 10:49.46 | itchi | Walther: What show it 'cat /proc/partiotions' ? Can you paste the output on an paster? Type in your irc client '/msg paster' |
| 10:49.56 | itchi | oeps ^^ typo |
| 10:49.57 | nuke | maybe kernel doesnt have xfs support? |
| 10:49.58 | Walther | old ide |
| 10:50.00 | Supaplex | !paste |
| 10:50.00 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
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| 10:50.26 | Supaplex | check /var/log/dmesg to see what's up with your ide devices/controllers. |
| 10:50.38 | Walther | how can i find out about the kernel having xfs support? |
| 10:50.39 | itchi | Walther: Paste here the link of that url ^^ |
| 10:50.46 | Supaplex | my mainboard and promise needed firmware updates before they would play nice. |
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| 10:51.51 | fireedo | hehe....I think I found a way to get 3 etch DVD iso......that is to pay someone to download it ;) |
| 10:51.53 | Walther | which url? |
| 10:52.21 | itchi | Walther: That of the 'paste' |
| 10:52.48 | itchi | ktwilight: Not to hot?? I have troubles with it :-p |
| 10:52.54 | ktwilight | ? |
| 10:53.22 | ktwilight | it's crazy |
| 10:53.26 | ktwilight | today is much better |
| 10:53.48 | itchi | ktwilight: 2 big ventilo's are running here at max. I take on more, that of my comp :-) |
| 10:54.18 | ktwilight | ventilo? |
| 10:54.39 | itchi | Walther: Try to paste the output of the /proc/partitions on that 'paste' or an 'paster' |
| 10:54.43 | Walther | here is the url: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3056 |
| 10:54.56 | itchi | ktwilight: Like that one on your CPU, but an mega one :-) |
| 10:55.23 | ktwilight | ah, ventilator |
| 10:56.01 | itchi | ktwilight: I'm life just below the roof man, hot hot hot. Never i take an such appartement, never again ;-) |
| 10:56.12 | ktwilight | haha |
| 10:56.17 | ktwilight | that's the worst |
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| 10:56.39 | itchi | crazy :-/ And when it's cold, its very cold :-/ |
| 10:56.42 | ktwilight | start wearing icepacks, it may help |
| 10:56.58 | itchi | ktwilight: Lol |
| 10:57.24 | Gnea | itchi: how cold/hot does it get there? |
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| 10:57.43 | aidan | does anyone know of a package to compress PDF files? |
| 10:57.43 | fireedo | can I as an ordinary debian user ask for feature request package? if it possible where I can post it or to whom I have to ask? |
| 10:57.51 | ktwilight | max 34 yesterday |
| 10:57.57 | Gnea | aidan: gzip or bzip2 |
| 10:58.00 | itchi | Gnea: Actually here 29C and when it's cold it's 14C |
| 10:58.02 | ktwilight | it has been floating around 30 |
| 10:58.04 | aidan | Adobe seems to be able to convert a 100mb PDF into a few MB |
| 10:58.13 | itchi | Walther: You use logical volumes?? |
| 10:58.22 | aidan | Gnea: compress by editing the PDF I imagine, rather than a general compression technique |
| 10:58.24 | Gnea | is there a C2F converter around? |
| 10:58.48 | itchi | Gnea: Oh yea, i need to lool lol ;-) |
| 10:58.49 | Gnea | aidan: something that isn't restrictive with its license? not sure |
| 10:59.03 | aidan | Gnea: ah yeh, licensing :| |
| 10:59.10 | Walther | i m not sure about this - i got the computer installed as it is. maybe the one who installed it for me used logical volumes (though i must admit i have no idea how i can find out) |
| 10:59.26 | Gnea | found one |
| 10:59.44 | itchi | Gnea: Yea,. mee to, the first result of google ;-) |
| 10:59.56 | Gnea | itchi: i was used to -28C winters, now i live in 46C days. |
| 11:00.28 | itchi | Gnea: And I complain :-/ Eeeeeuuhm, ok right i'm happy here ;-) |
| 11:00.29 | Gnea | yes, walk outside during the day, it's an oven |
| 11:00.35 | Gnea | ;) |
| 11:00.59 | Gnea | it's okay, i don't miss the winter much :) |
| 11:01.10 | cydork | Gnea: 46C??? yieeks |
| 11:01.22 | Gnea | cydork: i live in a desert |
| 11:01.26 | itchi | Walther: I have look to the output you have give, to tell you i also not know about logical volumes. We hope someone are following the discusion here ;-) |
| 11:01.36 | cydork | Gnea: figures.. :P |
| 11:01.42 | itchi | Gnea: You are the desert, my lovely bot :-p |
| 11:02.03 | Gnea | with your crack :P |
| 11:02.07 | cbr | 46C.. i've been exposed to such temps only in a sauna |
| 11:02.17 | Walther | i see. maybe we can find out more basic things first, eg whether my computer supports this xfs |
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| 11:04.15 | vick | I'm logged into fluxbox using a non root account and i want to run synaptic, is that possible ? |
| 11:04.27 | vick | Whenever i su - and then run synaptic it says cannot open window |
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| 11:04.31 | vick | is there a way around that ? |
| 11:04.48 | itchi | Walther: If it's loaded as a module 'lsmod xfs', but i think an such thing need to be are build in in the kernel, i'm not sure |
| 11:04.57 | cydork | vick: gksu?? |
| 11:05.18 | lakez | anyone else experience errors when doing : apt-get dist-upgrade .. it's getting caught up on mysql50 |
| 11:05.27 | itchi | vick: Yeah, ^^ gksu synaptic, you get an little window, fill in and go |
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| 11:05.55 | itchi | lakez: What's the erro ? |
| 11:06.09 | Walther | lsmod|grep xfs returns "xfs 425728 0 (autoclean)" |
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| 11:06.53 | itchi | That last 0 mean that it's not used?? |
| 11:07.10 | lakez | itchi, ah damn i think my /var/lib/mysql drive is toasted... that's why |
| 11:07.14 | Walther | according to the headline: yes |
| 11:07.14 | lakez | checking.. |
| 11:07.28 | itchi | lakez: Put an egg on it?? |
| 11:07.48 | itchi | lakez: Time to take backups ?? |
| 11:08.28 | itchi | lakez: I mean to restore these on an new HDD that you mount? |
| 11:08.30 | lakez | itchi, 4 brand new drives... I dunno why it's screwed but ya |
| 11:08.30 | Walther | since i haven t mounted the hdds yet, there s no need to use this module right now, isn t it? |
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| 11:09.09 | itchi | lakez: Tcheck the log files? These tell many things :-/ |
| 11:09.51 | lakez | itchi, heh I already shutdown -r now ... I will check when it gets back up.. I do have 2 drives sitting outside the case ... so I may have unplugged it by mistake heh |
| 11:10.02 | lakez | shouldn't have them outside the case but they're only temporarily there |
| 11:10.20 | lakez | shit, box didn't come back up |
| 11:10.24 | itchi | lakez: It's your 'coffee time' ;-) |
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| 11:10.58 | itchi | Walther: I not know about it, but i think an such modules needs to be are build-in the kernel and not loaded as a module |
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| 11:11.39 | Walther | that means, i have to get a new kernel with the module built in? |
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| 11:13.14 | itchi | Walther: No, not especially, possible you need to rebuild these with support of xfs inside. But i'm realy no sure to tell it again. Wait a bit that someone have stop his break and are playing here. There's probably more than one that can you help here. It's just hot, and probably everyone are outside with an such weather |
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| 11:14.21 | cydork | Walter: you dont have to get a new kernel that's for sure. |
| 11:14.34 | Hoxzer | if nvidia driver install script says /lib/modules/2.6.8-3-386/build/include/linux/modversions.h not found what should I do. AND yes kernel-headers is installed |
| 11:14.44 | junii | Im downloadin gopen office but haven't got much spavce left on /; is there a way to specify apt-get to install it in /home |
| 11:14.47 | Hoxzer | it is pretty old version btw so the name might have been changed |
| 11:15.40 | Walther | if i had the choice, i d be in the swimmingpool as well, believe me ;-) |
| 11:16.14 | itchi | Walther: Yeah, wiht many coffee :-) |
| 11:16.27 | pourriture_ | It looks like my raid card has been removed from the sarge installer because it doesn't fit DFSG .... I have found a bunch of unofficial installers for woody that will work, but I would like to install sarge directly instead of upgrading. Does anyone know of a collection of unoffical installers that might have extended scsi support? |
| 11:16.43 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 11:16.59 | jetscreamer | !sarge 2.6.13 |
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| 11:17.46 | pourriture_ | are you trying to tell me something jetscreamer ? |
| 11:17.48 | Walther | is there a possibility to test whether linux has found the device of the hdd? simply to try the connection? |
| 11:17.53 | mesut | hello all. does aptitude use apt-get or its a differnent package manager ? |
| 11:17.55 | jetscreamer | ~sarge 2.6.15 |
| 11:17.56 | junii | how do I remove all the files in a folder rm man page cant be loaded as Ive ran out of space on / |
| 11:18.08 | itchi | dpkg take an cup of hot coffee it's looks |
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| 11:18.19 | jetscreamer | ~sarge 2.6.13 |
| 11:18.25 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 11:18.32 | jetscreamer | @sarge 2.6.15 |
| 11:18.33 | aptitude | somebody said sarge 2.6.15 was http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 11:18.34 | itchi | jetscreamer: Eveyone is taking one :-0 |
| 11:18.52 | itchi | aptitude: Is to lazy to take one :-( foei foei foei |
| 11:19.24 | Walther | do i need to "install" the hardware first? not only connect the cable, but tell debian to access the drives, before i can mount them? |
| 11:19.49 | cydork | mesut : aptitude uses apt-get |
| 11:19.49 | itchi | Walther: No, with /proc/partitions. You see it |
| 11:19.57 | mesut | thanks |
| 11:20.23 | Walther | in /proc/partitions it does not appear. so there s a hardware problem and i have to recheck the cable? |
| 11:20.43 | Walther | in the bios all hdds look present |
| 11:20.46 | pourriture_ | jetscreamer, so what you are saying is that this installer does NOT follow the DFSG and is likely to have drivers for a 6-year old scsi raid controller |
| 11:21.03 | itchi | Walther: It's are scsi devices? |
| 11:21.10 | jetscreamer | pourriture: if 2.6.15 has your stuff, yeah |
| 11:21.18 | Walther | no - simple ide hdds |
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| 11:21.49 | Walther | the only scsi device is the boot - hdd (and a not-working CDrom, i guess) |
| 11:21.59 | christor | Please how to update a machine using ntp? |
| 11:22.01 | itchi | Walther: A check does nothings bad |
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| 11:22.16 | itchi | @ntpd |
| 11:22.43 | Walther | since bios tells me all hdds are present, i guess its no problem with cable |
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| 11:24.27 | itchi | bb |
| 11:24.30 | itchi | oeps |
| 11:24.58 | itchi | Walther: Look a bit with 'dmesg' and in the log files? |
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| 11:25.47 | Walther | something particular i can look for? i m no tech at all - i started linux this weekend ;-) |
| 11:26.00 | itchi | Walther: Great :-) |
| 11:26.13 | jetscreamer | type dmesg and see what looks like it borked |
| 11:26.28 | itchi | Walther: You will see many better as that crap of diabolic thing, a bit complicated <- no sofisticated :-) |
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| 11:27.25 | jetscreamer | shift+pgup/dn scrolls in console btw |
| 11:28.13 | Walther | i ve piped into less, because i did not know about this ... thanks :-) |
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| 11:28.28 | jetscreamer | |less works too |
| 11:28.45 | jetscreamer | and has a bigger buffer |
| 11:29.04 | weissi | and you're able to search/highlight |
| 11:29.05 | jetscreamer | at a guess, your ide controller module isn't loaded |
| 11:29.21 | Walther | how can i find out, whether its loaded or not? |
| 11:29.27 | jetscreamer | lsmod |
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| 11:30.25 | Walther | lsmod returns a line saying "ide-core 91832 0 [via82cxxx]" |
| 11:30.30 | Walther | is that what you mean? |
| 11:30.59 | jetscreamer | there 'may' be another that you need |
| 11:31.04 | itchi | Walther: Depending of you controller |
| 11:31.25 | itchi | Walther: Know you the brand, model of it? |
| 11:31.31 | Walther | the controller is one of the ICs on the mainbaord? or is it a software thing? |
| 11:31.41 | weissi | Walter, do you only have the mobo's ide controller, or do you use SATA, SCSI or PCI-IDE controllers? |
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| 11:32.46 | jetscreamer | <Walther> the only scsi device is the boot - hdd (and a not-working CDrom, i guess) |
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| 11:33.20 | Walther | having climbed into the computer box: its an asus board having cables for 8 ide hdds (the oney with the old cables), they re all connected directly to the mainboard |
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| 11:33.39 | itchi | If someone need the output of /proc/partitions of Walther -> http://channels.debian.net/paste/3056 |
| 11:33.40 | jetscreamer | 8? |
| 11:34.12 | itchi | 8 is scsi?? |
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| 11:34.30 | Walther | another look: only 4 connectors, but 8 cables with 8 ide hdds |
| 11:34.48 | Walther | every connector has 2 hdds connected to it |
| 11:35.03 | itchi | Walther: Want an good exchange with my P2 server'ke?? He run verry well the mine :-p |
| 11:35.41 | Walther | what is a P2 server? can it recover the data from the 8 hdds i have here? |
| 11:35.46 | itchi | Walther: What is it for computer? Looks an King-Kong :-/ |
| 11:36.09 | itchi | Walther: It's my old stuff with an big HDD of 6 GB :-/ |
| 11:36.19 | DonLemmi | Hi, can someone here please tell me the debian pendant to pam_console.so? I'm trying to let the system give users rights on devices on login. pam_console.so is how i did this with redhat, but i cant find that in etch? |
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| 11:36.50 | weissi | Walther, 2 devices connected to one connector is normal. do you know the exact name of your mobo? |
| 11:36.59 | fireba11 | Walther: so probably regular IDE with an additional controller .. |
| 11:38.06 | Walther | another dive later: its an asus a7v133 with an additional letter behind, but well-hidden under a connector |
| 11:38.12 | itchi | Walther: It's not the easiest thing you have take to play|learn with it. lol |
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| 11:38.37 | Walther | i know. i ve not come very far yet |
| 11:38.54 | Walther | but its quite an effort since last weekend ;-) |
| 11:39.10 | itchi | Walther: Is the goal to make an super server? |
| 11:39.17 | Walther | at least if you take into account, i m no tech and over 50 years old ;-) |
| 11:39.39 | Walther | the goal is to recover the data from the hdds and copy them to a large hdd on another machine, so that |
| 11:39.42 | fireba11 | i got no experience building more than trivial shell scripts .. can someone point me to a helpfull url ? |
| 11:40.12 | Maulkin | fireba11: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 11:40.23 | Walther | i can search them for specific data my company urgently needs. and our tech is farfar away on vacation - maybe even in a swimmingpool |
| 11:40.24 | itchi | fireba11: The bash-doc ? |
| 11:40.51 | fireba11 | Maulkin that looks usefull, thanks |
| 11:41.08 | itchi | Walther: For such thing, dring dring dring, helo Trinity :-) |
| 11:41.33 | Walther | i don t understand? |
| 11:42.06 | Walther | try to keep things simple - i m not used to technical terms or ...jokes? |
| 11:42.10 | itchi | Walther: It's an dangerous and complicated thing with wath your playing, you need _good_ suport. Call an someone? |
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| 11:42.36 | weissi | that could help with walters problem: http://www.geocities.com/ender7007/ |
| 11:42.39 | itchi | oela, it's my cup of coffee that is off :-( |
| 11:42.41 | Walther | we ve tried to call him, but looks like he fed his handy to an alligator or something. |
| 11:43.07 | Walther | handy = mobile phone (i m german, we call mobile phones a "handy" ;-)) |
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| 11:43.25 | petemc | as in, convenient? |
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| 11:44.05 | itchi | Walther: Data is the most importantest thing, a thing not to play with it :-( |
| 11:44.12 | jkp | hey all |
| 11:44.22 | jkp | installed debian for the first time yesterday... |
| 11:45.01 | jkp | wanted to try it out for size |
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| 11:45.12 | jkp | only thing is something got screwed up in the install |
| 11:45.36 | jkp | terminals are all screwed in both screen and vi |
| 11:46.03 | jkp | its some terminfo thing...and i have no idea how to sort it |
| 11:46.08 | jkp | pressing backspace doesnt work |
| 11:46.09 | weissi | Walther, does lsmod list "pdcraid" |
| 11:46.13 | jkp | vi acts like a madman |
| 11:46.18 | jkp | any ideas? |
| 11:46.58 | fresch | hi, i want to run a couple commands when a (any) user logs out. i know how to do it for bash (.bash_logout), but how would i do that for a graphical login, like, with gdm, kdm? |
| 11:46.59 | petemc | jkp: tried TERM=screen screen |
| 11:47.18 | mebsd | i'm using kde |
| 11:47.20 | jkp | petemc: nope - this is all new on me |
| 11:47.43 | jkp | petemc: that fixed screen |
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| 11:48.05 | Walther | no, it does not |
| 11:48.06 | jkp | whats the deal then? i shouldnt have to run screen like that surely |
| 11:48.33 | jkp | also, im guessing vi will still be screwed |
| 11:48.50 | jkp | yeah - it is |
| 11:49.01 | weissi | Walther, then do "tail -f /var/log/messages &" (no quotes) that should list you some sys messages. then do "modprobe pcdraid" and see what happens |
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| 11:49.55 | petemc | weissi: why the ampersand ? |
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| 11:50.37 | weissi | Walther, (btw: tail lists you the tail of a file; tail -f does the same but doesn't stop, everytime something gets appended to the file, it will be listed; & sends a process to the background, so you'll be able to execute new commands) |
| 11:51.53 | weissi | Walther, (so the "tail -f /var/log/messages &" command writes log messages to the terminal, but doesn't block it, you can still use is normally) |
| 11:51.58 | Walther | i see ... to be exact, i don t see, but i hope you see something in the line "Jul 5 13:48:29 localhost -- MARK --", they all look the same, but have different timestamps(?) |
| 11:51.59 | petemc | i find it more convenient to use another terminal, and pipe the output through ccze |
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| 11:52.21 | Cyberdata | do you know how to play roulette on bash console ? |
| 11:52.26 | Hoxzer | :P somebody wanna spot the fix for noob? |
| 11:52.30 | Walther | so if a new line is appended, my terminal will tell me? |
| 11:52.31 | Cyberdata | [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "You live" |
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| 11:52.41 | weissi | Walther, that's ok and just means that nothing special had happened, the interesting part should appear, after you executed "modprobe pcdraid" |
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| 11:52.55 | Hoxzer | problem seems to be with glcore not loading propelly on x start |
| 11:53.05 | azeem | Cyberdata: you have been devoiced for ten minutes for giving ill advise |
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| 11:53.56 | Walther | it returns "can t locate module pcdraid" |
| 11:53.57 | lakez | with ifplugd, if i reboot .. the network doesn't come up... but if I unplug/replug the cable.. it'll come up.. anyone know what's wrong? |
| 11:54.11 | weissi | Walther, shit, what kernel version do you have? |
| 11:54.14 | Walther | if you meant "pdcraid" instead, it retursn a bunch of errors, i guess |
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| 11:54.38 | weissi | Walther, yeah :-)) |
| 11:54.57 | weissi | Walther, could you paste them to paste bin or #flood?? |
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| 11:55.23 | Walther | kernelversion says "2.4" |
| 11:55.26 | lakez | does anyone know what's up with ifplugd on restart ? won't bring the interface up or something |
| 11:55.35 | Walther | that was not what you were opting for, i guess? |
| 11:55.54 | Walther | alright, i ll paste them to this paste thingy |
| 11:56.12 | itchi | Hehe i have miss that fucked game that delete everything of you HDD :-) |
| 11:56.54 | itchi | I hope no one have try to play with it :-/ |
| 11:57.13 | itchi | We never know |
| 11:57.17 | lakez | Jul 2 10:58:31 debian kernel: Additional sense: Scsi parity error |
| 11:57.17 | lakez | Jul 2 10:58:31 debian kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 4327 |
| 11:57.30 | weissi | ahh /bin/bash: command not found |
| 11:57.40 | itchi | weissi: Gone :-p |
| 11:58.47 | Walther | the pasting thing takes a bit long to load ... sorry, might take a while |
| 11:59.21 | weissi | Walther, paste it to #flood, that works fine.. |
| 11:59.30 | weissi | !paste |
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| 12:00.44 | Walther | ok, i pasted it to #flood |
| 12:00.51 | weissi | Walther, I saw it, thanks |
| 12:01.02 | weissi | Walther, try upgrading the kernel to 2.6 I think |
| 12:01.42 | Walther | i got documentation for upgrading from 2.2 to 2.4. i hope it applies for 2.4 to 2.6 as well. |
| 12:01.44 | weissi | Walther, or ask in the channel if someone knows about this problem |
| 12:02.09 | weissi | Walther, "apt-get install linux-image-2.6" should be ok |
| 12:02.26 | weissi | Walther, or search google |
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| 12:02.51 | Walther | alright. i ll return to here, if i m back online with a kernel 2.6 |
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| 12:03.46 | itchi | azeem: We hope he had an good argument of it :-/ |
| 12:03.50 | yang | I am having troubles with nvidia, Xorg freezes constantly at 99% cpu...I use "nv" driver in etch. |
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| 12:04.20 | itchi | yang: Try to look to the xorg log, var logs ? To know a bit why? |
| 12:05.25 | fresch | erm... what's the safe way to remove all files in a dir, including dot-files? |
| 12:06.05 | yang | itchi: it doesnt have any error listed. |
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| 12:06.59 | itchi | yang: dmesg? But ... |
| 12:07.01 | vick | What is the location of the directory of C header files that match the kernel? |
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| 12:07.40 | fireedo | vick:do you want to install vmware? |
| 12:07.45 | yang | itchi: its sort of a bug, maybe for this card |
| 12:07.53 | itchi | yang: Which brand and model is it ? |
| 12:08.21 | itchi | yang: bbbrr, try to use the 'vesa'? |
| 12:08.22 | vick | fireedo, vmware tools to be more specific. |
| 12:09.27 | fireedo | vick: try run "runme.pl" |
| 12:09.47 | fireedo | vick : you have to get vmware update tool first |
| 12:09.48 | vick | fireedo, Do i escape vmware-config-tools ? |
| 12:09.51 | yang | itchi: its nvidia "geforce 4", i doubt vesa would work |
| 12:10.02 | vick | fireedo, heh i am lost now |
| 12:10.03 | itchi | yang: Why not? |
| 12:10.29 | fireedo | vick : get this vmware-tools-any-update1.tar.gz |
| 12:11.00 | itchi | I think someone need to call dondelecaro |
| 12:11.06 | yang | itchi: you say, i should replace Driver "nv" with "vesa" ? |
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| 12:11.21 | itchi | yang: It's a know bug for your card ? |
| 12:11.30 | fireedo | vick : from here http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ |
| 12:11.37 | itchi | yang: Work with the most card, it's an generic |
| 12:11.49 | yang | itchi: let me try |
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| 12:12.26 | fourat | !ati |
| 12:12.36 | fourat | !laptop |
| 12:12.44 | itchi | fourat: He is going to take an cup of coffee for me :-p |
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| 12:13.15 | vick | fireedo, i download vmware-tools-any-update1.tar.gz or vmware-any-any-update101.tar.gz ? |
| 12:13.44 | fireedo | vick: if you want to use vmware tools then get vmware tools |
| 12:13.57 | liable | !baaa |
| 12:14.12 | fireedo | vick: btw...have you installed kernel-header or kernel-source? |
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| 12:14.58 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@*/beardy] by mentor |
| 12:15.01 | vick | fireedo, which one of that is it looking for ? |
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| 12:15.31 | itchi | Oh yea an ban on beardy :-/ |
| 12:16.01 | itchi | liable: There's an need to take an call i think. He is gone an hour ago |
| 12:16.04 | fireedo | vick, just one |
| 12:16.06 | liable | that was a remove ban.. |
| 12:16.20 | mentor | I just removed the quiet |
| 12:16.41 | itchi | liable: Yeah, i have see it, that's why ... |
| 12:16.47 | liable | itchi: who are you talking about? |
| 12:17.02 | itchi | liable: dpkg and dondelecaro are gone |
| 12:17.37 | liable | itchi: explain, you are confusing me.. |
| 12:17.50 | lunitik | Cliffnotes version preferably... |
| 12:18.02 | lunitik | He seems to be a regular... and seems pretty tame? |
| 12:18.05 | itchi | liable: I think someone need to contact donelecaro, like he get disconnected. I guess he not know about it |
| 12:18.45 | liable | itchi: oh, hell work it out whenever he sees his box |
| 12:18.45 | vick | is there a GUI application to manage running services ? |
| 12:18.45 | mentor | For reference, beardy was on quiet because, despite being useful and calling the ops on a fairly obvious troll, he was being abusive to the troll while doing so. This is not acceptable; if you have a problem such as this cal the ops, and then ignore the person. |
| 12:18.46 | lunitik | vick: many |
| 12:18.55 | liable | vick: not really gui, but theres ncurses ones |
| 12:18.56 | itchi | vick: rcconf ? |
| 12:18.59 | vick | lunitik, like which services to start and stuff like that |
| 12:19.12 | vick | something GUI would be preferable |
| 12:19.13 | my007ms | hello i know that Quotas per File System |
| 12:19.13 | liable | !tell vick about services |
| 12:19.27 | liable | ~tell vick about services |
| 12:19.28 | my007ms | but can i make exact file or folder don't go big |
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| 12:19.44 | liable | ~stupid bot |
| 12:19.46 | apt | no, stupid liable |
| 12:19.46 | vick | heh. |
| 12:19.48 | my007ms | hello weissi |
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| 12:19.55 | weissi_ | Walther, still there?? |
| 12:19.59 | liable | @tell vick about services |
| 12:20.05 | itchi | vick: 'rcconf', 'sysvconfig', 'sysv-rc-conf', 'update-rc.d' /etc/rc?.d/', and '/etc/services' |
| 12:20.09 | lunitik | vick: ksysv comes to mind ... I'm not sure of one for GTK |
| 12:20.14 | weissi_ | Walther, had a disconnect, very shitty network here :-(( |
| 12:20.20 | weissi_ | my007ms, hi :-) |
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| 12:20.26 | stranger_stone | hello |
| 12:20.32 | lunitik | itchi: he said "GUI" not "TUI" or "CLI" :P |
| 12:20.55 | itchi | lunitik: Oh yea, ncurce are for my an GUI in an manner :-p |
| 12:20.55 | weissi_ | !test |
| 12:21.14 | Walther | yes, i m here |
| 12:21.20 | lunitik | itchi: ncurses based in pretty much the definition of TUI ;) |
| 12:21.25 | Walther | just reading on how to build a new kernel |
| 12:21.28 | my007ms | weissi, is there is som way make limit for file or folder size i know that Quotas per File System |
| 12:21.31 | weissi_ | Walther, and did you have success? |
| 12:21.37 | itchi | lunitik: :-p |
| 12:21.40 | itchi | hehe |
| 12:21.42 | weissi_ | my007ms, yep quotas |
| 12:21.54 | Walther | still reading ... i wanto know first what i m doing. sorry, might take a while |
| 12:21.59 | my007ms | weissi_, Quotas per File System |
| 12:22.02 | vick | lunitik, Thanks. |
| 12:22.15 | itchi | Walther: Your on the right way so ;-) |
| 12:22.16 | stranger_stone | i`m sorry the question is there some linux firewall to control the software that can access to the internet inside we only have the option to block tcp\ip but we can control what softwrae cen have access |
| 12:22.23 | my007ms | weissi_, how can i make exact file or folder have exact Quota |
| 12:23.05 | fourat | my laptop's ATI X700 graphic card wont work with a fresh stable Debian sarge install |
| 12:23.09 | stranger_stone | allthis because i want to install realplayer here but like we allknow realplayer is not very secure once that was the firstthat start the spyware "trojan" but i need the video to watch afew stuff |
| 12:23.10 | fourat | nayone can help me ? |
| 12:23.16 | stranger_stone | and want to blockit |
| 12:23.18 | fourat | there's no entry in linux-maptop |
| 12:23.21 | fireba11 | stranger_stone: the concept of a firewall si to block vertain hosts/ports or combinations of those. no way to figure out what application did send a certain packaet |
| 12:23.28 | vick | is there a way to stop that 'beep' sound that happens when you like press TAB when there is no completetion for that name or like backspace when nothing is written or at least lower it's volume only (without lowering ther volume of the song running tho using xmms) ? |
| 12:23.41 | stranger_stone | fireba11neither md5 ? |
| 12:23.45 | vick | Ah and another thing, what's a cool shell look ? xterm , gnome-terminal, something else ? |
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| 12:24.00 | tarzeau | vick: these are not shells |
| 12:24.06 | tarzeau | vick: but zsh is indeed very nice |
| 12:24.20 | tarzeau | vick: for terminals i like xterm and Terminal.app |
| 12:24.29 | fireba11 | stranger_stone: a firewall is normally a dedicated box .. a personal firewall can try to check the application too but the concept got several flaws and is especially bad to block outgoing traffic |
| 12:24.40 | vick | tarzeau, is there any specific option you pass to xterm ? |
| 12:24.53 | tarzeau | -rv maybe and -fn lime |
| 12:25.05 | weissi_ | my007ms, with quotas you're able to limit a user/groups space on one partition |
| 12:25.11 | stranger_stone | fireba11 is there something of that to linux debian? |
| 12:25.16 | fireba11 | fireba11: so the application checking is insecure anyway |
| 12:25.26 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 12:25.28 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:25.40 | weissi_ | @ops: what's up with dpkg and apt (bots)? |
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| 12:26.13 | my007ms | weissi_, yes but not the file or folder "do u mean i make the file i need to limit owne by user then limit that us Quota " |
| 12:26.47 | my007ms | weissi_, but so i can not limit the file i limit file owner is that right ?? |
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| 12:27.15 | weissi_ | my007ms, you want to limit the size of file f for user u? say file /home/user/bla should not be greater than 2MB ? |
| 12:27.40 | stranger_stone | fireba11 what software do you recomend to me to dothis in linux debian |
| 12:27.47 | weissi_ | my007ms, with quota you just limit the space taken on a partition by a specific user/group |
| 12:27.51 | vick | You can now run VMware Tools by invoking the following command: "/usr/bin/vmware-toolbox" during an XFree86 session. , does it mean its preferable to run vmware-toolbox everytime or just one time ? |
| 12:28.02 | fireba11 | stranger_stone: never tried to do that on debian |
| 12:28.06 | stranger_stone | i`m new in linux i`msorry this questions |
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| 12:28.34 | fireba11 | my007ms am wondering .. how did you run into needing a specific file's size limited ? |
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| 12:28.38 | stranger_stone | ok thanks anyway :) i only want to block realplayer to try acess to the internet fromdebian |
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| 12:28.54 | stranger_stone | the aplication and be install in to the sametime |
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| 12:29.17 | my007ms | i want limit file that all user use |
| 12:30.10 | fireba11 | my007ms could be helpfull fi you'd explain a bit more detailed |
| 12:30.36 | my007ms | i have folder call /share i make rwx for all user in my system to that folder but i need limit size of that folder so it's not take much |
| 12:30.43 | weissi_ | my007ms, I think that's impossible on linux (IMHO), the only way is to make an extra partition for this file, make the directory read/execute only and limit the size taken by the users via quota *g* |
| 12:31.29 | weissi_ | my007ms, so you need an extra partition and quotas (put all users in one group, say "share" and then quota it |
| 12:31.37 | blondie | you could run a script that checks the size of the folder every minute and change permissions if it gets too big :| |
| 12:32.03 | weissi_ | blondie, not bad :-)) |
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| 12:32.13 | blondie | but then they wouldn't be able to delete stuff I guess |
| 12:32.14 | weissi_ | my007ms, blondie has a cool solution :-) |
| 12:32.39 | blondie | windows server 2003 has a new folder size quota thing |
| 12:32.53 | weissi_ | blondie, with ACL support this shoud be possible |
| 12:33.00 | my007ms | :D |
| 12:33.08 | blondie | true |
| 12:34.35 | my007ms | weissi_, in your solve of the problem why u think i must have extra partition |
| 12:34.45 | blondie | well, if they're as powerful as NTFS ones... or do they just apply RWX to additional user/groups? |
| 12:35.10 | weissi_ | my007ms, because linux quotas only apply on partitions, not on folders/files |
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| 12:35.40 | blondie | and they also only apply to individual users afaik |
| 12:35.52 | Mr-Boss | hello |
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| 12:36.23 | my007ms | ok i will make quotas for share group in whatever the filesystem that in it "or it's bad idea to have quotas in / " |
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| 12:37.42 | Hoxzer | so what was the media repo for debina? |
| 12:38.01 | Hoxzer | :D like I noted it up and then I restarted without saving it |
| 12:38.08 | Hoxzer | now I'm googling like 3hours for it |
| 12:38.19 | itchi | Hoxzer: Look to marillat ;-) |
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| 12:39.12 | Hoxzer | itchi: YEAH |
| 12:39.17 | cydork | !marillat |
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| 12:39.43 | jkp | man this is seriously annoying |
| 12:39.46 | stranger_stone | fireball probably the bether solution is i access to the information runing the software from another acount |
| 12:39.48 | jkp | my terminals are completely screwed |
| 12:40.08 | jkp | ive ready the whole keyboard and console HOWTO and it hasnt helped |
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| 12:41.25 | stranger_stone | like i make 3 or 5 security acounts whith diferent access levels |
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| 12:45.12 | weissi_ | my007ms, sorry, didn't see your post: hmm, depends what you want to limit |
| 12:45.24 | weissi_ | my007ms, do you only have one partition? |
| 12:46.23 | simmerz_ | im trying to get trac installed from http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge. how do i get their version of trac to install over and above the debian.org version of the deb? |
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| 12:47.18 | my007ms | weissi_, yes |
| 12:48.14 | weissi_ | my007ms, hmm then you limit the group's access everywhere, e.g. in their $HOME. if that's ok, you could do it. |
| 12:49.18 | my007ms | weissi_, thanks much |
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| 12:49.34 | weissi_ | my007ms, np, but perhaps consider to make more than one partition |
| 12:50.27 | guiss | Hi. I wanted to know if there is any program that could show me the TCP connections made by any client to a specific machine. |
| 12:51.02 | tarzeau | guiss: tcpdump |
| 12:51.24 | weissi_ | guiss: and if you wanna sniff: ngrep |
| 12:51.48 | guiss | and any kind of frontent that I could leave running and showing who opens a connection? |
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| 12:52.04 | weissi_ | guiss: ethereal |
| 12:52.12 | thilak123 | World's Most Secure IM has arrived |
| 12:52.16 | trym|work | http://pastebin.ca/79484 |
| 12:52.20 | thilak123 | its free and open source |
| 12:52.26 | guiss | thanks, I'll try that |
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| 12:52.27 | weissi_ | guiss: but you'll probably monitor A LOT!! of connections! |
| 12:52.33 | trym|work | My MegaRAID of 2.2TB wont work properly |
| 12:52.40 | thilak123 | http://digg.com/software/World_s_Most_Secure_Instant_Messenger_is_here_!! |
| 12:52.45 | guiss | weissi_, yes, thats the deal |
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| 12:53.17 | guiss | weissi_, I want to monitor the traffic and behaviour of the network for a few days |
| 12:54.08 | weissi_ | guiss: consider buying a 2.2TB raid as trym|work has one :-)) |
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| 12:54.39 | weissi_ | guiss, traffic monitoring: ngrep -d eth0 > /big_raid/traffic :-)) |
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| 12:54.59 | trym|work | but any ideas ? |
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| 12:55.29 | guiss | weissi_, lol. no money for that kind of hardware :( |
| 12:56.44 | simmerz | how do i get a package from one repository to install instead of the same package name from another? dont want the debian.org trac package, but i want one from another place |
| 12:56.49 | weissi_ | trym|work: read that perhaps: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2005-June/001923.html |
| 12:57.02 | weissi_ | trym|work: they're speaking of linux |
| 12:57.46 | Hoxzer | :/ aargh |
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| 12:57.58 | weissi_ | trym|work: (not the whole thread), but this might be interesting: <quote>The support told me, SuSE Linux is known to work with >2TB in one device, |
| 12:57.58 | weissi_ | means they might have some patches to work around. I will try a SuSE |
| 12:58.02 | weissi_ | </quote> |
| 12:58.03 | Seven_Six_Two | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.13 | trym|work | ah ok |
| 12:58.16 | trym|work | *reading* |
| 12:58.36 | weissi_ | trym|work: perhaps search on google for the SUSE-kernel-patch |
| 12:59.56 | lunitik | weissi_: thats the thing where modules work through kernel versions? |
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| 13:01.54 | peterS | MODVERSIONS is the ugliest hack you're likely to see, in theory or in practice, in a month of Sundays |
| 13:01.58 | Hoxzer | do you guys wanna fix my x? |
| 13:02.07 | Hoxzer | it got broken when I installed nvidia driver |
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| 13:02.50 | peterS | ...and people ask us why we don't like non-free software |
| 13:02.53 | weissi_ | lunitik, what? |
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| 13:03.44 | lunitik | weissi_: thats a no then... nm |
| 13:05.03 | trym|work | well its a kernel config option |
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| 13:05.09 | trym|work | CONFIG_LBD |
| 13:05.11 | trym|work | but its already enabled |
| 13:06.27 | syntaxx | Hoxzer: there's a url for install nvidia driver on sarge |
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| 13:07.21 | Hoxzer | syntaxx: :( |
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| 13:07.40 | syntaxx | Hoxzer: but unfortunately i forgot since dpkg is not here =/ |
| 13:07.58 | Hoxzer | syntaxx: well, I installed one from nvidia install script |
| 13:08.07 | lunitik | !hi |
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| 13:08.10 | lunitik | ~hi |
| 13:08.12 | apt | hello, lunitik |
| 13:08.50 | lunitik | ~nvidia-graphics-driver |
| 13:09.01 | lunitik | meh |
| 13:09.21 | lunitik | Hoxzer: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 13:09.25 | Hoxzer | syntaxx: I'm trying to configure HTPC system but everything I found about mythtv and debian is for sid |
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| 13:10.04 | lunitik | Hoxzer: debian-multimedia.org's sarge repo doesn't contain it? |
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| 13:11.07 | Hoxzer | lunitik: yes.... it contains but making a HTPC isn't just mythtv install :( |
| 13:11.38 | Hoxzer | lunitik: as I want to configure HTPC only system I dont want such stuff like "gnome-desktop" or openoffice... fluxbox would do just well |
| 13:12.14 | lunitik | Hoxzer: should be able to use any documentation... d-m.o simply recompiles things on each dist env |
| 13:12.44 | lunitik | Hoxzer: might have to tweak... but should still be relivant |
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| 13:15.15 | simmerz | i dont know why, but when i create a directory in /var/lib/svn, it creates as drwxr-sr-x and owned by root:www-data. how do i change the default that is created? |
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| 13:16.06 | DonLemmi | simmerz, is /var/lib/svn an extra filesystem? |
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| 13:17.03 | wimpies | anybody here that can help me with a samba setup ? |
| 13:17.50 | meppl | guten morgen |
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| 13:18.45 | RichiH | mentor: and? |
| 13:18.51 | *** mode/#debian [-b %mentor!*@*] by RichiH |
| 13:18.54 | mentor | * #debian :Cannot send to channel |
| 13:18.57 | RichiH | good |
| 13:19.09 | RichiH | that could probably be made more verbose |
| 13:19.30 | RichiH | i will poke BearPerson about adding sth more concrete |
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| 13:20.06 | RichiH | !tell knoxy about public away |
| 13:20.16 | RichiH | uh, dpkg down |
| 13:20.22 | mentor | yes |
| 13:20.26 | mentor | dondelcaro down too |
| 13:20.32 | RichiH | yah, just realized |
| 13:20.45 | RichiH | timing is close, so i expect breakage at his site |
| 13:20.50 | mentor | yes |
| 13:20.55 | RichiH | s/expect/assume/ |
| 13:21.00 | mentor | otherwise I would have poked someone |
| 13:21.00 | junii | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.18 | blondie | ??????? |
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| 13:25.52 | abrotman | junii: you probably should have used backports.org |
| 13:26.03 | abrotman | @tell knoxy about away |
| 13:26.19 | abrotman | stew: aptitude answers to @ .. so does ravenbird |
| 13:28.41 | MoDaX | junii: what error do you get? |
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| 13:33.00 | lunitik | abrotman: I told him that... he wants 3.5.3 though... and backports only has 3.5.0 |
| 13:33.56 | abrotman | well . then i guess he should contact the maintainer of the backports he is using .. the backports.org has support at #debian-backports on OFTC .. but they won't support every random crap stuff backport .. or he can try #debian-kde .. but they might not help either |
| 13:33.59 | lunitik | abrotman: short of reinstalling... not possibly to downgrade right? |
| 13:34.04 | abrotman | or just #kde |
| 13:34.09 | my007ms | what is the programe name to make new baner every time i ssh to my server banner |
| 13:35.04 | lunitik | abrotman: well... no safe way to downgrade... |
| 13:36.38 | concept10 | do you guys think that ubuntu has diverged far enough from debian that compatibility is poor ? |
| 13:36.51 | lunitik | concept10: yes |
| 13:37.00 | cast | concept10: yes |
| 13:37.05 | MoDaX | concept10: yes |
| 13:37.44 | concept10 | concrete fact or pro debian? |
| 13:37.52 | lunitik | concept10: set up a partition with ubuntu and debian repo's for apt to see how far |
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| 13:40.09 | concept10 | im asking because I use sarge on the server and ubuntu on desktop and I find that this is best for these different domains. ive tried ubuntu server kernels several times and i have experienced crashes on a couple of boxes. |
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| 13:40.43 | stew | concept10: please keep it on topic |
| 13:40.52 | concept10 | heh |
| 13:41.01 | concept10 | that is not on topic? |
| 13:41.15 | stew | ubuntu? no |
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| 13:41.42 | concept10 | stew, change topic to "Don't mention Ubuntu in here." |
| 13:41.42 | junii | does the 2.4 kernel support hotplugging of USB devices? |
| 13:41.58 | lunitik | concept10: that setup would be fine... although good luck setting up CUPS on Ubuntu Dapper |
| 13:42.36 | junii | or how can I find this out... |
| 13:42.42 | NineTails | good |
| 13:43.25 | lunitik | concept10: people here misunderstood what you meant by "compatible"... Linux is Linux... no matter who its packaged by |
| 13:43.59 | streuner | stew: where are the bots? |
| 13:44.07 | lunitik | ~hi |
| 13:44.11 | apt | hello, lunitik |
| 13:44.11 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 13:44.12 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:44.16 | tarzeau | streuner: there! there |
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| 13:44.39 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew) |
| 13:44.47 | stew | @test |
| 13:44.48 | ravenbird | stew: grrr, what do *you* want? |
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| 13:44.54 | stew | &test |
| 13:44.54 | aptitude | No, stew, you're not online any more. |
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| 13:45.19 | ranpha | hi, does debian Sarge support gnome network manager??? I'm using it on ubuntu but i rather go back to sarge for more stable |
| 13:45.30 | lunitik | stew: either exact replica's of dpkg? (give or take a few sync's..) |
| 13:45.48 | jetscreamer | &info gnome-network-manager sarge |
| 13:45.49 | lunitik | ranpha: packages.debian.org |
| 13:45.58 | stew | lunitik: aptitude is dpkg's database but 24 hours behind |
| 13:46.01 | concept10 | lunitik, I meant in general. I know Linux is Linux. I was asking because i havent kept up with the differences between the two as far as x.org changes, gcc changes, etc |
| 13:46.18 | lunitik | stew: cool, thanks :) |
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| 13:46.56 | concept10 | that networkmanager is going downhill |
| 13:46.58 | lunitik | concept10: Debian basically takes Sid and cripples it ... so they are fairly simular |
| 13:47.10 | jetscreamer | debian does eh |
| 13:47.15 | lunitik | s/Debian/Ubuntu |
| 13:47.18 | lunitik | s/Debian/Ubuntu/ |
| 13:47.19 | ranpha | lunitik :i can't find it not even for Etch. which is strange because dapper is based on etch |
| 13:47.31 | streuner | stew: they haven't on OFTC any bots either... |
| 13:47.45 | concept10 | networkmanager started great but it gets more complicated and unpredictable with every release |
| 13:47.47 | SlackRat | whats the fastest route to installing debian testing? netinst or base install from a sarge cd, then complete an install using testing unstable cds? |
| 13:48.02 | lunitik | Why doesn't apt output new sequence via s/foo/bar/ in #debian , but does in #kde ? |
| 13:48.20 | stew | lunitik: ask #debian-bots |
| 13:48.35 | fireba11 | the bots are dead here right now it seems |
| 13:48.57 | stew | fireba11: aptitude, ravenbird are both available |
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| 13:48.59 | lunitik | fireba11: /msg aptitude hi :) |
| 13:49.10 | streuner | apt, say fireba11 well :-) |
| 13:49.12 | apt | fireba11 well :-) |
| 13:49.56 | SlackRat | and secondly, should a debian sarge install have a problem configuring X cause of an nvidia card? |
| 13:50.03 | ranpha | concept10 : do you have a better program then network manager? I want to switch easliy with my wireless card |
| 13:50.19 | MoDaX | concept10: network manager is step backwards? definitely, no. |
| 13:50.23 | concept10 | ranpha, i didnt say it didnt work |
| 13:50.39 | concept10 | s/didnt/doesnt |
| 13:50.43 | ranpha | but does it work with Sarge??? or do i need testing or unstable? |
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| 13:51.03 | concept10 | ranpha, best to install and evaluate. its free of charge. |
| 13:51.07 | lunitik | concept10: you were right first time |
| 13:51.15 | MoDaX | concept10: /etc/network/interfaces for servers is just fine. but for laptops... hmm, daemon is needed |
| 13:51.40 | lunitik | concept10: umm, I was looking at wrong didnt... nm |
| 13:51.45 | fireba11 | hm .. how do i found out who to complain to if a package from backports is borked ? |
| 13:51.50 | stew | SlackRat: debian sarge should not have a problem configuring X becuase of an nvidia card |
| 13:51.53 | ranpha | concept10.: problem is that i need to reinstall and i don't know if they package is included in sarge |
| 13:51.54 | concept10 | MoDaX, the current iteration doesnt have the pop up |
| 13:52.09 | lunitik | fireba11: apt-cache show package | grep Maintainer ? |
| 13:52.10 | MoDaX | concept10: pop up? |
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| 13:53.00 | concept10 | MoDaX, for example, a couple of iterations ago, it had the wireless bars and when you click on that it brings up the avail. networks |
| 13:53.30 | SlackRat | great, thanks stew......as for a new install to testing branch, are cds (unstable from 12/05) a quicker route, or will i muck everything up ....and should just netinstall? |
| 13:53.39 | streuner | fireba11: changelog? |
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| 13:53.55 | MoDaX | concept10: don't mix network manager (daemon) and it's interfaces |
| 13:54.14 | streuner | fireba11: there is a channel for backports as well... |
| 13:54.22 | MoDaX | its* |
| 13:54.26 | concept10 | MoDaX, im talking about the default interface |
| 13:54.41 | SlackRat | time and download limits |
| 13:54.53 | concept10 | MoDaX, thats know breakage, ive seen it on the list |
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| 13:54.55 | guiss | are there any jboos debian packages? |
| 13:54.59 | stew | SlackRat: i'd say netinst |
| 13:55.10 | stew | guiss: /msg aptitude search |
| 13:55.32 | SlackRat | cool, yeah, it sounds like a safer saner option.......thanks |
| 13:55.33 | leOn | anyone using uids higher thar 2^16? (65535) |
| 13:55.34 | lunitik | SlackRat: not really a valid reasoning... you'd download less doing a netinst in most cases... unless you like doing silly things like "apt-get install gnome" |
| 13:55.41 | leOn | s/thar/than/ |
| 13:56.10 | lunitik | SlackRat: as apposed to 'apt-get install gnome-core gtk stuff you want" |
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| 13:56.23 | abrotman | he'd still be downloading less than the CDs |
| 13:57.13 | abrotman | actually .. by quite a bit |
| 13:57.22 | SlackRat | oh in that case, i was thinking the netinstall for a desktop would be a similar amt of pkgs, if its smaller thats very cool |
| 13:57.57 | lunitik | All 12 really aren't necissary though, thanks to popularity-contest, not too many are actually required (not entirely sure how many exactly, never tried a CD install of Debian...) |
| 13:58.19 | cydork | SlackRat: you are definately missing something about netinstall. |
| 13:58.24 | guiss | stew, sorry but i don't know how to use the bot |
| 13:58.35 | SlackRat | yup, never did one yet |
| 13:58.38 | SlackRat | :) |
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| 13:58.44 | lunitik | abrotman: its forseeable that, for most, 3-4 would be plenty... I'm not familier enough to give an exact number though |
| 13:58.57 | abrotman | the netinst is more than enough :) |
| 13:58.58 | leOn | shouldn't a debian sarge with a 2.6 kernel already support 2^32 as maximum uid/gid number ? |
| 13:59.14 | cydork | abrotman: :) |
| 13:59.22 | concept10 | im pissed - there are no plans appearing in the news about us getting in n. korea's ass for yesterdays stunt |
| 14:00.09 | SlackRat | bleh, that would be playing into what N Korea wants .... |
| 14:00.27 | leOn | fsck ... it works but the it's using 2^32-2 instead of 2^32-1 |
| 14:00.33 | leOn | possible typo!? |
| 14:00.45 | concept10 | sorry |
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| 14:01.09 | NaRaK | the fired a few missils for test, whats the big deal :p |
| 14:01.24 | NaRaK | *they |
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| 14:01.41 | lunitik | cydork: my trusty RSS feed reader says they fired 7 missiles into the ocean and stuff |
| 14:01.54 | NaRaK | 6 for start and when everybody yelled they fired one more just to show they dont give a flying fuck |
| 14:02.03 | bintut | i'm running sarge.. anybody has an idea on how can i make use of my "wincorf nixdorf nd210" printer? |
| 14:02.09 | SlackRat | yup as deliberate provacation.....so ignore em |
| 14:02.58 | concept10 | the big deal is this: we go into iraq and they *supposed* to be a threat? bush will never goto war with someone with weapons |
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| 14:03.22 | petemc | isnt there a channel for discussing politics... |
| 14:03.30 | NaRaK | bush sucks ass, thus usa sucks ass for voting him for 2 elections! |
| 14:03.32 | NaRaK | so there :p |
| 14:03.37 | lunitik | petemc: #debian-offtopic |
| 14:03.42 | cast | wait, bush got voted in again? |
| 14:03.53 | cast | uh, disregard question. |
| 14:03.55 | lunitik | cast: like 2 years ago... where were you? |
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| 14:04.40 | xstasi | hi |
| 14:04.46 | abrotman | NaRaK: try #politics |
| 14:04.58 | NaRaK | abrotman: I didnt start this :p |
| 14:05.08 | xstasi | what the hell are all those pdiffs that apt is downloading? |
| 14:05.11 | abrotman | concept10: #politics |
| 14:05.19 | abrotman | !pdiff |
| 14:05.24 | concept10 | abrotman, im there |
| 14:05.40 | xstasi | dpkg is down |
| 14:05.40 | xstasi | :/ |
| 14:05.48 | lunitik | xstasi: the difference between the archives last time you updated and this time |
| 14:05.50 | concept10 | abrotman, sorry for the rant |
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| 14:06.05 | xstasi | lunitik, pratical use? |
| 14:06.17 | junii | The kat search tool doesn't seem to be available through apt-get? Is there another way of getting it rather than compiling it? |
| 14:06.19 | lunitik | xstasi: other than using less bandwidth? |
| 14:06.28 | xstasi | ok i'm getting it |
| 14:06.36 | xstasi | they're "patches" for Packages file |
| 14:06.37 | lunitik | junii: kerry is in Debian |
| 14:06.39 | xstasi | aight? |
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| 14:06.50 | SlackRat | well, heres to coming back online from a new debian install, thanks people.... |
| 14:06.55 | cydork | xistasi: right... |
| 14:06.56 | lunitik | Umm, apparently not |
| 14:07.00 | xstasi | great |
| 14:07.08 | xstasi | thanks |
| 14:07.09 | xstasi | :) |
| 14:07.10 | xstasi | ye |
| 14:07.12 | xstasi | bye |
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| 14:07.20 | abrotman | @pdiff |
| 14:07.21 | abrotman | bah |
| 14:07.33 | azeem | &pdiff |
| 14:07.33 | aptitude | as of apt version 0.6.44, apt now supports "pdiff" support, which allows apt-get update to download diffs of the Pacakges file of the repository instead of downloading the entire Packages file each time. |
| 14:07.33 | stew | &pdiff |
| 14:07.33 | aptitude | as of apt version 0.6.44, apt now supports "pdiff" support, which allows apt-get update to download diffs of the Pacakges file of the repository instead of downloading the entire Packages file each time. |
| 14:07.46 | junii | lunitik: is kerry better than kat? |
| 14:07.55 | junii | seeing as its based on beagle |
| 14:07.55 | bintut | anyone? |
| 14:08.48 | lunitik | junii: kerry isn't in debian apparently, I'm mistaken... I'm not sure the difference, I just thought kerry was in the archive (wrt results etc...) |
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| 14:08.56 | junii | ok |
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| 14:09.12 | junii | I was thinkin coz I couldn't find it here |
| 14:10.09 | lunitik | Should be coming in soon though, there are .debs around (umm, via Kubuntu though more than likely :/) |
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| 14:10.48 | Greg^lM | hello |
| 14:11.12 | lunitik | Greg^lM: have a question or something? |
| 14:11.19 | Greg^lM | yep;[ |
| 14:11.33 | lunitik | Greg^lM: you're gonna make me ask you to ask it though huh? |
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| 14:11.49 | Greg^lM | lunitik: sorry ;] |
| 14:11.54 | blondie | lunitik: have YOU got a question? have you? well, have you? |
| 14:12.08 | lunitik | blondie: not at this time... I'll let you know? |
| 14:12.12 | blondie | ok |
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| 14:13.01 | Greg^lM | I've installed debian woody on my machine and I have problem accessing network, dhcp doesn't work, and I've got no idea what to do... |
| 14:13.16 | lunitik | Greg^lM: why woody? |
| 14:13.27 | lunitik | Greg^lM: thats like 4 years old or something |
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| 14:13.40 | bronze | heh , he needs ubuntu. :) |
| 14:13.47 | cydork | :) |
| 14:13.57 | junii | must be using IPv0.1 |
| 14:14.04 | stew | Greg^lM: how are you trying to use dhcp? |
| 14:14.07 | Greg^lM | lunitik: yeah, cause my friend sent me, I'm using pegasos ppc btw |
| 14:14.07 | Scrippie | investigating |
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| 14:15.06 | cydork | Greg^lM: can elaborate the problem? |
| 14:15.06 | Greg^lM | stew: editing "file interfaces", line "iface eth0 inet static" |
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| 14:15.09 | lunitik | junii: was a serious question... and entirely relivant due to likelyhood of his nic driver simply not being supported by (likely) linux 2.2 (at best, early 2.4) |
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| 14:15.35 | stew | Greg^lM: change the static to dhcp, and run "/etc/init.d/networking restart". if that doesn't work, try just "dhclient eth0" |
| 14:15.39 | junii | jesuz you are a lunitik aren't you |
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| 14:16.06 | guilherme-jorge | Hello all, I'm doing a new web structure in my company and I have some questions about data replication. I would like to do replication between 5 servers. In this way, all servers accepts FTP connections, and when a user send/remove a file in this site, these data would be replicated to anothers servers. I have studied tools/softwares to do data replication or that provide interface to execute a command when any directory i |
| 14:16.06 | guilherme-jorge | s acessed. DRBD, Dnotify, Dazuko, Csync2... Anybody have worked with any these tools/softwares?? Any idea/sugestion?? |
| 14:16.55 | junii | a raid array |
| 14:16.58 | Greg^lM | stew: I've changed this...my friend told me that this version of woody doesn't have dhcp in kernel :( |
| 14:17.08 | junii | for all 5 servers; wouldn't that be easier |
| 14:17.10 | lunitik | junii: care to elaborate? is your nic supported by linux 2.2? |
| 14:17.12 | stew | Greg^lM: it should, what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:17.32 | abrotman | guilherme-jorge: rsync ? |
| 14:17.42 | stew | guilherme-jorge: DRBD is master slave only, or master-master (but limited to 2 nodes) if you use a clustering filesystem, like gfs (or whatever the one from oracle is) |
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| 14:18.27 | Greg^lM | stew: I didn't try, Is there possiblity to find any dhcp client for that old distribution? |
| 14:18.28 | junii | lunitik: you obviously didn't get any sleep earlier on, it was a simple joke. |
| 14:18.33 | infernix | hrm. if I install horde3 webmail which is in sarge, it says it requires php-pear's DB.php. However there seems to be no package in sarge that provides it. |
| 14:18.35 | tuxedup | does anyone know if the rt2500 source package in testing/unstable supports wpa, all the other distros I have tried which include it all fail or crash even thought it is supposed to support it. |
| 14:19.11 | lunitik | junii: sorry, yes, I've been up since like 10am yesturday |
| 14:19.13 | stew | Greg^lM: you should have dhclient on any default woody install (from the dhcp-client package) |
| 14:19.20 | riot | why does my x.org claim 'Unknown protocol "evdev"'? The evdev-module is loaded. |
| 14:19.41 | infernix | apt has been updating its files for the past half hour, so I can't search for a DB.php. anyone know why horde3 depends on code that isnt in any sarge package? |
| 14:19.56 | stew | riot: is the xserver-xorg-input-evdev package installed? |
| 14:20.26 | jelly | infernix: php4-pear |
| 14:20.52 | infernix | jelly: it doesnt have DB.php on my system |
| 14:21.07 | infernix | which is my point |
| 14:21.27 | lunitik | riot: apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-all doesn't appear to contain -evdev here? |
| 14:21.31 | guilherme-jorge | abrotman: But how to execute rsync when I directory is modified? |
| 14:21.36 | lunitik | riot: X needs a driver for it too |
| 14:21.49 | guilherme-jorge | abrotman: Dazuko, dnotify?? Do you know any of these tools? |
| 14:22.00 | riot | aaah.. Thanks everyone :) |
| 14:22.01 | Fox | infernix: even in /usr/share/php/DB.php once you installed php4-pear ? |
| 14:22.07 | riot | guessed i was missing something :) |
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| 14:22.16 | jelly | infernix: well it's there on my sarge devel machine. |
| 14:22.29 | infernix | hmmm |
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| 14:22.45 | riot | oh, shit. Its already the newest version. (running sid here) |
| 14:22.58 | riot | does it have to be included somewhere? |
| 14:23.16 | jelly | infernix: reinstall php4-pear? does "debsums php4-pear" report any errors? Do you have a version newer than 4.3.10-16? |
| 14:23.45 | infernix | argh, 4.4.2-0.*dotdeb*. k, thanks:) |
| 14:24.35 | jelly | infernix: You used someone's bad backport, it seems. |
| 14:24.54 | lunitik | riot: ahhh... "evdev" isn't a Protocol, its a Driver |
| 14:25.59 | riot | hmm. I copied that config from someone (configuring a MX1000).. :/ |
| 14:27.01 | jelly | infernix: php4-pear was split into smaller packages for 4.4 release. php-db looks like a probable candidate for this code. |
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| 14:27.28 | lunitik | riot: strange, but yeah... |
| 14:27.40 | abrotman | guilherme-jorge: FAM? |
| 14:27.46 | lunitik | riot: you sure it wasn't a "I need help" mail to a mailing list? |
| 14:28.09 | riot | lunitik: hmm. i'm checking the post again. |
| 14:28.12 | riot | but i think, not |
| 14:28.15 | guilherme-jorge | Do you already use FAM? |
| 14:28.27 | lefti | Hi, I have problem with setting up network on startup. I get "Configuring network interfaces../etc/network/interfaces:3: unknow method". |
| 14:28.37 | riot | no, his thing's working |
| 14:28.50 | lefti | What I can do? google searchs nothing :( |
| 14:29.13 | lunitik | riot: I don't see how... care to make it the Driver and set Protocol again, then try again though... just for shits and giggles? |
| 14:29.16 | Fox | lefti: and what's on line 3 ? |
| 14:29.34 | riot | lunitik: someone responded with his config: driver "mouse" and no protocol-statement |
| 14:29.35 | lunitik | riot: Protocol should be something like "ExplorerPS/2" |
| 14:29.38 | riot | hmhm. gonna check that |
| 14:29.39 | guilherme-jorge | abrotman: Do you already use FAM? |
| 14:29.42 | lefti | ah, it means line 3 :) |
| 14:29.45 | abrotman | guilherme-jorge: not on servers |
| 14:29.48 | abrotman | &fam |
| 14:29.49 | aptitude | it has been said that fam is a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap, or if lack of FAM is killing your courier-imap, build courier-imap from upstream source |
| 14:29.55 | riot | is "mouse" an abbreviation for evdev, maybe? |
| 14:30.14 | lefti | Fox: iface lo inet looopback |
| 14:30.33 | lunitik | riot: no... "mouse" is 'xserver-xorg-input-mouse' |
| 14:30.42 | stew | guilherme-jorge: you either want to use a networked filesystem, like nfs/afs or you want to use a san with a clustered filesystem, it sounds like |
| 14:30.44 | Fox | lefti: looooooopback ? |
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| 14:31.00 | lefti | Fox: ;) |
| 14:31.04 | lunitik | riot: and "evdev" is 'xserver-xorg-input-evdev' |
| 14:31.08 | lefti | Fox: thanks |
| 14:31.20 | Fox | you're welcome |
| 14:31.26 | riot | lunitik: um. no, without protocol i have _no_ mouse.. |
| 14:31.40 | riot | lunitik: so i change driver to evdev and protocol something like imps/2? |
| 14:32.05 | lunitik | riot: I'm pretty sure I said that 2 minutes ago |
| 14:33.27 | lunitik | riot: only difference being I said ExplorerPS/2 and you said imps/2 |
| 14:34.13 | riot | lunitik: yes. Tried it. Now evdev claims, it doesn't know how to handle the device :( |
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| 14:34.29 | faber3 | afternoon, good |
| 14:34.30 | lunitik | riot: why are you even using evdev? |
| 14:34.47 | faber3 | how can i use ssh + tar to untar something on a remote machine into a local directory? |
| 14:34.50 | riot | lunitik: because people claim, only evdev understands all the buttons. |
| 14:34.57 | guilherme-jorge | stew: I don't need to use NFS... I have had too much problems with NFS and SAN is not cheap... I would like to store all data in all servers, and I would use storage as backup... |
| 14:35.08 | stew | faber3: the tar is on the local side or the remote side? |
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| 14:35.20 | stew | faber3: oh, nm, i misread it |
| 14:35.20 | faber3 | Stew: the tar file is remote |
| 14:35.26 | lunitik | riot: http://mms.sunsite.dk/doc/x80.html |
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| 14:36.04 | stew | faber3: ssh user@remotehost cat /path/to/tarfile | tar xzf- |
| 14:36.07 | lunitik | riot: uhh, you don't need all that, sorry... note "The controls of the evdev are defined in /etc/mms/input-evdev. In this file you define all the buttons of your device." |
| 14:36.25 | lunitik | riot: so you must tell it about the devices... |
| 14:36.53 | riot | lunitik: hmm. i see. I'm going to play a little bit around, maybe i can get it to work. |
| 14:36.54 | stew | guilherme-jorge: i don't believe a solution exists for more than 2 servers |
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| 14:37.05 | lunitik | riot: good luck |
| 14:37.09 | riot | thanks! |
| 14:37.29 | lunitik | riot: poke around /usr/share/doc/pkg next time before coming here... |
| 14:37.56 | Hoxzer | :/ I dont get it my X loads after I install nvidia drivers but when I reboot I get errors about missing modules |
| 14:37.58 | lunitik | riot: get better help when you seem knowledgable, just confused |
| 14:38.22 | lunitik | Hoxzer: throw the module into /etc/modules |
| 14:39.22 | possie | is there a package which contains a dictionary file in debian? |
| 14:39.26 | faber3 | stew: thanks.. works! |
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| 14:39.49 | lunitik | possie: many... apt-cache search dictionary |
| 14:40.14 | possie | lunitik, i get *lots* of output, that's why i asked, maybe someone can recommend me one |
| 14:40.22 | stew | possie: aptitude search /usr/share/dict |
| 14:40.27 | Hoxzer | lunitik: I already did :( |
| 14:40.54 | lunitik | Hoxzer: dmesg says what about it? |
| 14:41.14 | possie | stew: no output |
| 14:41.22 | lunitik | possie: you using a spellchecker like aspell or ispell... both have a -dictionary |
| 14:41.29 | riot | lunitik: hmm. i tried evtest.. it does know all buttons, indeed. With names. |
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| 14:41.48 | lunitik | riot: go figure... now you just have to set them to do something :P |
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| 14:42.03 | Hoxzer | lunitik: "NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005" |
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| 14:42.34 | Mattz0r | how come when you apt-get install mysql-server you get 4.0.x?? how can i get 4.1.20? |
| 14:42.35 | lunitik | Hoxzer: nothing about it succeeding? maybe its still loading? :S (kidding) |
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| 14:42.59 | faber3 | apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 14:43.05 | riot | lunitik: nah, they should be mapped already. Problem is: evdev seems to be unable to use the mouse - so xorg can't fire up :/ |
| 14:43.05 | Mattz0r | ah |
| 14:43.06 | stew | possie: hmm, use apt-cache instead of aptitude |
| 14:43.08 | Mattz0r | *tries it* |
| 14:43.14 | stew | possie: don't know why aptitude has a problem there |
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| 14:43.55 | riot | lunitik: and btw.: documentation about evdev is pretty sparse in /usr/share/doc |
| 14:43.59 | lunitik | possie: you didn't answer my question... are you using a spellchecker like aspell or ispell? |
| 14:44.22 | lunitik | riot: man evdev |
| 14:44.37 | Hoxzer | lunitik: actually it fails to initialize it :P |
| 14:44.48 | riot | lunitik: oh. How stupid. I didn't try THAT one! Thanks *g* |
| 14:44.53 | Mattz0r | thanks faber3 |
| 14:45.20 | Hoxzer | http://pastebin.ca/79558' |
| 14:45.21 | lunitik | Hoxzer: it tell you anything about why? |
| 14:45.28 | Hoxzer | lunitik: http://pastebin.ca/79558 |
| 14:45.34 | cydork | possie: try apt-cache search dictionary --names-only |
| 14:45.48 | Hoxzer | lunitik: not really :/ |
| 14:46.16 | lunitik | Is there a --discriptions option or simular for aptitude, anyone know? |
| 14:47.26 | lunitik | Hoxzer: that looks like Xorg.0.log ? |
| 14:47.29 | riot | lunitik: GNF.. The fscking "device" statement was missing *gnFF* Thanks for your help again :) |
| 14:47.42 | riot | Mouse working now. :D |
| 14:47.43 | Hoxzer | lunitik: oh, you see :) http://pastebin.ca/79563 glx not found :( |
| 14:47.56 | Hoxzer | lunitik: yeah, it is log |
| 14:48.39 | cydork | Hoxzer : are you using testing/etch?? |
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| 14:48.49 | Hoxzer | cydork: stable |
| 14:48.56 | stew | lunitik: yes ~d searches in descriptions |
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| 14:49.27 | DanTH | Hi all, |
| 14:49.43 | stew | possie: so: aptitude search "~d/usr/share/dict" |
| 14:49.57 | lunitik | Hoxzer: you followed http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#head-783b4c1ece4093dca2810eeff7da15c17a2b031a |
| 14:50.00 | DanTH | I'm trying to install debian 3.1 on a vaio laptop and for some reason it hangs/freezes on the langauge menu any ideas? |
| 14:50.03 | lunitik | ? |
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| 14:50.50 | heh_v_water | I have a fiel sitting in a directory. It is a nightly backup. I'd like to set up a cron job that took the archive, copied it and renamed it with the date it was copied in the filename.. is this possible? |
| 14:50.58 | lunitik | Hoxzer: '(II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"' seems scetchy |
| 14:51.03 | Hoxzer | lunitik: yep, but I had installed driver before from nvidia before doing that and I got errors about kernel module doesn't equal to the x module -> so I installed same version of driver with nvidia script too and then it worked |
| 14:51.23 | Hoxzer | lunitik: from nvidia install script |
| 14:51.41 | lunitik | Hoxzer: then no, you didn't follow what that link says... |
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| 14:52.06 | lunitik | Hoxzer: three people today (uhh last ~23 hours) have followed it with success |
| 14:52.58 | lunitik | Hoxzer: (I can't tell you didn't follow it because it says nothing about an nvidia script.... or about getting it from nvidia |
| 14:53.12 | lunitik | ) |
| 14:53.37 | Hoxzer | lunitik: yeah... I followed it but it didn't work because I had installed driver from nvidia script |
| 14:53.47 | Hoxzer | lunitik: ..befora |
| 14:53.52 | Hoxzer | *before |
| 14:53.59 | lunitik | DanTH: Vaio hates Linux (or visa versa depending on pov) |
| 14:54.10 | lunitik | Hoxzer: remove it and do it the right way! |
| 14:54.38 | lunitik | DanTH: Unfortunatly, afaik, you're pretty much sol |
| 14:54.38 | Hoxzer | lunitik: :( how |
| 14:55.04 | lunitik | Hoxzer: make uninstall inside the scripts dir |
| 14:55.24 | Hoxzer | :o |
| 14:55.27 | stew | DanTH: did you try the 2.6 kernel? |
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| 14:55.32 | Hoxzer | gotta see about that |
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| 14:56.46 | lunitik | stew: better support in recent kernels? meh, haven't paid much attention to that :( |
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| 14:57.11 | stew | lunitik: ? |
| 14:57.11 | lunitik | I know it used to be pretty much a lost cause |
| 14:57.25 | lunitik | stew: for Vaio's |
| 14:58.05 | ShredZ | Don't know if this is a known bug, but if you want to use k3b under gnome (on etch), k3bsetup won't run unless you manually install kdebase-data. |
| 14:58.40 | cydork | ShredZ: it's not a bug |
| 14:58.51 | stew | lunitik: http://tuxmobil.org/sony.html seems to show lots of people using debian on viaos. and yes the 2.6 kernel has better hardware support than the 2.4 kernel |
| 14:58.52 | cydork | ShredZ: k3b need kdebase!! |
| 14:59.05 | abrotman | ShredZ: it's not a bug .. use gnomebaker |
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| 14:59.16 | DanTH | sorry i was away |
| 14:59.18 | abrotman | or the nautilus burner |
| 14:59.22 | DanTH | yeah its the 3.1 distro |
| 14:59.40 | stew | DanTH: did you try the 2.6 install kerenl? or just the default 2.4 kernel? |
| 14:59.41 | ShredZ | cydork, if you install k3b with apt, it gets kdebase-bin, but that's not enough apparently. I'll check out those 2 gnome alternatives |
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| 14:59.46 | DanTH | erm |
| 14:59.51 | DanTH | no i havn't |
| 15:00.06 | stew | DanTH: type "linux26" at the boot: prompt of the installer |
| 15:00.12 | DanTH | ok thanks |
| 15:00.21 | DanTH | trying it now |
| 15:00.29 | DanTH | ah its working |
| 15:00.48 | DanTH | thank you |
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| 15:01.36 | ShredZ | abrotman, gnomebaker seems nice enough thanks |
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| 15:04.40 | DanTH | somehow i doubt getting the wireless to work will be as easy ;) |
| 15:04.50 | xk | Symbol xf86PrintEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved! |
| 15:04.53 | xk | any ideas how to fix that? |
| 15:05.15 | simonrvn | whoah, it's an xk. hi :) |
| 15:05.22 | stew | lunitik: check wnpp |
| 15:06.39 | lunitik | stew: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ is 404 here :( |
| 15:06.42 | xk | simonrvn ;) |
| 15:06.48 | lunitik | stew: never mind |
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| 15:07.05 | lunitik | stew: I had a trailing ',' in my url :/ |
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| 15:07.10 | skruwilus | i get "Check your Pear::Image_Graph installation!" |
| 15:07.14 | skruwilus | what package is it? |
| 15:07.32 | chill | i want to compile some basic stuff in C which package do i have to install to get stdio.h etc. |
| 15:07.41 | xk | chill: libc6-dev |
| 15:07.51 | stew | chill: build-essential |
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| 15:08.02 | skruwilus | can anyone help? |
| 15:08.23 | infernix | i'm building a fallback MX server for some 45 webhosting servers (2x 3Ghz xeon, 8GB ram, 6x146GB 15krpm in raid 10). What filesystem should i take for /var? :) |
| 15:08.26 | chill | xk and stew: thanks! |
| 15:08.39 | infernix | anyone running reiser4? |
| 15:08.41 | skruwilus | can anyone help me? |
| 15:08.45 | TheSin | hey guys, I'm running debian etch and the new udev seems to ignore any parms I put in /etc/modules, so before I was able to force full duplex on my e1000 and not I acn't figure out how to do it |
| 15:08.51 | TheSin | anyone know how? |
| 15:08.54 | xk | xeon, heh. gotta love those p4 hotplates. |
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| 15:09.44 | cydork | skruwilus: does that perl script contain use something::something; ?? |
| 15:09.48 | lunitik | stew: ahh... "Being worked on"... yay |
| 15:09.50 | infernix | well, worst case (datacenter uplink/power failure), this baby will get quite a lot of mail. i'm going to put some stuff on a tmpfs but for mail storage i was thinking reiser since, afaik, it handles lots of small files best of all FSes |
| 15:10.02 | skruwilus | cydork, huh? |
| 15:10.10 | skruwilus | http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download |
| 15:10.11 | skruwilus | that package |
| 15:10.14 | lunitik | stew: thanks for pointing me at that, never knew about it before :( |
| 15:10.19 | skruwilus | is it avalible for apt-get? |
| 15:11.12 | skruwilus | is pear even avalible ? |
| 15:11.38 | TheSin | skruwilus, php-pear |
| 15:11.53 | skruwilus | E: Couldn't find package php-pear |
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| 15:12.02 | TheSin | you must be in stable then |
| 15:12.13 | skruwilus | how was it you changed? |
| 15:12.16 | lunitik | stew: how long are things usually "in preparation" on average before getting uploaded? |
| 15:12.17 | skruwilus | i am runnign a stable server |
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| 15:12.22 | TheSin | if your in stable it's php4-pear |
| 15:12.33 | skruwilus | yeah sources list |
| 15:12.39 | skruwilus | oh |
| 15:12.47 | skruwilus | yepp |
| 15:12.54 | skruwilus | done |
| 15:12.58 | TheSin | ;) |
| 15:14.08 | skruwilus | http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download |
| 15:14.08 | skruwilus | now how do i get this? |
| 15:14.08 | TheSin | just use pear to get it now |
| 15:14.08 | skruwilus | how? |
| 15:14.09 | skruwilus | i am a pear newbie |
| 15:14.09 | skruwilus | ;) |
| 15:14.09 | stew | lunitik: anywhere from a week to a couple of years, it really depends. are there any notes on the bug? |
| 15:14.09 | TheSin | pear install Image_Graph I'd guess |
| 15:14.10 | skruwilus | haha |
| 15:14.10 | skruwilus | easy enough |
| 15:14.10 | skruwilus | No release with state equal to: 'stable' found for 'Image_Graph' |
| 15:14.15 | TheSin | anyone here understand udev at all? mostly in the hotplug area of udev? |
| 15:14.15 | lunitik | stew: what bug? talking about wnpp "Packages being worked on" |
| 15:14.29 | TheSin | skruwilus, you might need to search fo rit |
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| 15:14.30 | skruwilus | okey ;) |
| 15:14.32 | TheSin | or do an update first to fill the pear db |
| 15:14.32 | skruwilus | thnx |
| 15:14.51 | laserite3 | sorry i got disconnected, question was if there's any option with latest debian netinst boot cd like "rescue root=/dev/hdxx", thxn! :) |
| 15:14.52 | TheSin | I'm not very verused with pear but I'm sure #php could help there |
| 15:14.54 | stew | lunitik: yes, "packages being worked on" will each have an ITP bug |
| 15:15.35 | Sir-vince | how do i make a list of all cron jobs running on the server, nomatter which user it is, |
| 15:15.38 | lunitik | stew: oh... just in general really... although I actually clicked on one and just saw what you meant |
| 15:15.39 | Sir-vince | i have sudo access |
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| 15:16.14 | skruwilus | ????????? |
| 15:16.19 | skruwilus | stable JUST segfaulted |
| 15:16.36 | skruwilus | i did not even know that could happend |
| 15:16.40 | skruwilus | Starting to download XML_RPC-1.4.8.tgz (30,376 bytes) |
| 15:16.41 | skruwilus | ...done: 30,376 bytes |
| 15:16.41 | skruwilus | Segmentation fault |
| 15:16.44 | skruwilus | dam dam daaaa |
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| 15:17.03 | Sir-vince | any suggestions ? |
| 15:18.17 | abrotman | Sir-vince: do you want times too ? |
| 15:18.25 | Sir-vince | yes |
| 15:18.36 | abrotman | do you know where they are stored? |
| 15:18.40 | abrotman | the crontabs i mean |
| 15:18.46 | Sir-vince | hmm no, sorry |
| 15:18.50 | Sir-vince | it is a standard debian server |
| 15:18.57 | Sir-vince | no changes in it, |
| 15:19.11 | stew | Sir-vince: getent passwd | cut -d: -f1 | while read a ; do echo $a crontab: ; sudo crontab -l -u $a ; done |
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| 15:19.18 | Mattz0r | bleh |
| 15:19.24 | stew | Sir-vince: there are also crontabs in /etc/cron* |
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| 15:19.34 | Sir-vince | ok, thanks :) |
| 15:19.35 | abrotman | those are run by run-parts though |
| 15:19.51 | Mattz0r | i need mysql-server 4.1.12 and apt-get gave me 4.1.11a :/ so i cant import my sql backup :( |
| 15:20.17 | Mattz0r | unless im doin summin wrong |
| 15:20.33 | Mattz0r | i dont know |
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| 15:21.18 | abrotman | something? |
| 15:21.40 | Mattz0r | O.o? |
| 15:21.45 | abrotman | 4.1.11a is the version in sarge |
| 15:22.01 | Mattz0r | yea.. |
| 15:22.05 | azeem | Mattz0r: why do you need .12? |
| 15:22.11 | Mattz0r | my mysql backup was from 4.1.12? |
| 15:22.16 | azeem | ah |
| 15:22.32 | abrotman | how did you get .12 before? |
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| 15:22.41 | Mattz0r | it was a centos system |
| 15:22.54 | abrotman | you did a binary backup instead of a dump? |
| 15:22.59 | Mattz0r | ^ |
| 15:23.02 | Mattz0r | it was centos |
| 15:23.20 | abrotman | so you didn't do a dump of the DB? you took binary data? |
| 15:23.33 | Mattz0r | i exported the sql. |
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| 15:24.54 | Vasistha | Mattz0r: can you go back to centos and do a dump? If not, you might want to visit backports.org |
| 15:25.05 | Mattz0r | i have the centos system still |
| 15:25.11 | Mattz0r | how do i do a dump? |
| 15:25.22 | Mattz0r | all i used was phpmyadmin, to export the sql |
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| 15:27.12 | abrotman | Mattz0r: read the mysql docs .. they have pretty explicit instructions on doing a dump correctly |
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| 15:27.31 | stew | Mattz0r: man mysqldump |
| 15:27.47 | abrotman | if you have the dump .. the version shouldn't matter(not a minor revision like that) |
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| 15:29.32 | Mattz0r | k |
| 15:30.02 | w1ndow | ie.debian.org is down |
| 15:31.31 | Mattz0r | mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect |
| 15:31.41 | Mattz0r | it never told me about how to add a password in the man |
| 15:31.42 | Mattz0r | =/ |
| 15:31.44 | simonrvn | use -p switch |
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| 15:31.59 | simonrvn | (no need to put the actual passwd there, it'll ask) |
| 15:32.50 | Mattz0r | okay |
| 15:32.53 | Mattz0r | i think i got it now |
| 15:32.54 | Fox | Mattz0r: mysqldump -p database_name > file.sql |
| 15:33.00 | Mattz0r | yea.. |
| 15:33.02 | Mattz0r | did that |
| 15:33.05 | Fox | man mysqldump for options |
| 15:33.10 | Mattz0r | i done it already. |
| 15:33.13 | Mattz0r | -.- |
| 15:33.19 | Mattz0r | im not /that/ dense |
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| 15:33.52 | Fox | how can you get an access denied then ? :) |
| 15:34.05 | Mattz0r | (11:31:37) (simonrvn) use -p switch |
| 15:34.10 | Mattz0r | i got it after he said that? |
| 15:34.11 | Mattz0r | sheesh |
| 15:34.24 | Mattz0r | keep up :P |
| 15:34.56 | stew | w1ndow: what do you expect to see at ie.debian.org? |
| 15:35.54 | petemc | there are some issues with some networks in .ie |
| 15:36.00 | petemc | heanet seems ok here tho |
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| 15:36.47 | w1ndow | Stew i use it for apt-get, i cant get heanet here either :( |
| 15:37.00 | heh_v_water | is this sane? cp /backups/unreal.tar.gz /backups/unreal_`date +%d-%m-%y`.tar.gz |
| 15:37.14 | petemc | w1ndow: some people in the ilug channel mentioned some issues earlier |
| 15:37.16 | Mattz0r | weee |
| 15:37.21 | Mattz0r | thats the mysql backed up |
| 15:37.25 | stew | w1ndow: ie.debian.org doesn't even resolve to an ip for me |
| 15:37.29 | Mattz0r | restored rather |
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| 15:38.01 | w1ndow | yeah, somethings broken somewhere |
| 15:38.09 | petemc | oh, i cant get to it now either |
| 15:38.10 | skruwilus | hey how was it you checked what folder you had installed a package in to? |
| 15:38.15 | Fox | stew: think he is looking for ftp.ie.debian.org |
| 15:38.34 | ukpbz | Any MailScanner guru's here? Having probs with my Debian/MailScanner install |
| 15:38.51 | Fox | it resolvs to 193.1.193.65, that is debian.heanet.ie. |
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| 15:42.25 | jair | guys can I do rsync undo? I did copy an old home directory to the new one on my debian sarge and it looks like something is not working properly :( |
| 15:42.43 | jair | I did the rsync but I am wondering if is a way to undo the copy? |
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| 15:43.17 | ukpbz | Anyone feel they want to help with my MailScanner issue :-( |
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| 15:43.28 | heh_v_water | jair, you probably should have backup the stuff up first then tested it |
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| 15:44.08 | nyk2005 | Hello Everyone! Can someone tell me how I can restore the debian-sys-maint mysql account? Or find out what PW I need to assign it? |
| 15:44.10 | Dunedan | Does anybody know why a chroot can't find 'make'? |
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| 15:44.23 | jair | heh_v_water: I know |
| 15:44.24 | nyk2005 | I deleted the debian-sys-maint account in a wave of paranoia... :) |
| 15:44.43 | jair | it is a way I can undo the rsync? |
| 15:44.43 | stew | nyk2005: read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server*/README.Debian |
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| 15:45.05 | lexton | how can I upgrade my system to perl 5.8.8 |
| 15:45.17 | lexton | I don't want 2 copies of perl |
| 15:45.29 | lexton | for ex: /usr/bin/perl and /usr/bin/local/perl |
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| 15:45.41 | lexton | I want to replace the exisiting perl |
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| 15:45.54 | jair | I did copy a home directory to another one but it looks like damage the kde work process now I can not even access to nthe home directory using the kde, I can through the terminal konsole though ;) |
| 15:46.15 | nyk2005 | stew: ah, I see! the account has to have all access? |
| 15:46.41 | Ferret | jair: Maybe you forgot to tell it to keep permissions... rsync -a |
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| 15:47.39 | abrotman | lexton: you realize that could do bad things right? |
| 15:48.17 | azeem | lexton: where do you have /usr/bin/local/perl from? |
| 15:48.25 | lefti | :( next problem with installing debian via deboostrap. I get message "/etc/rcS.d/S02mountvirtfs:line40: /dev/null: Read-only filesystem" |
| 15:48.32 | lefti | i can't do anything with /dev |
| 15:48.35 | abrotman | i think he's saying he doesn't want that |
| 15:48.44 | lefti | which initscripts remount /dev as rw ? |
| 15:48.53 | abrotman | it mounts / as rw |
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| 15:48.55 | jair | Ferret: I did this: rsync -aP /jair_old/ /home/jair/ |
| 15:49.06 | drasko | hi all. How can I look at memory map of some ko, or.a (lib) file, under linux. What command to use, where to look? |
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| 15:49.31 | lefti | really? |
| 15:50.00 | lefti | Can it be, because /dev/null has wrong permissions? |
| 15:50.23 | stew | nyk2005: yes |
| 15:51.33 | nyk2005 | stew: I have still those packages that wont get processed by dist-upgrade: The following packages have been kept back: |
| 15:51.33 | nyk2005 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.38 | lefti | without any script in /etc/rcS.d/ this machine boots |
| 15:51.40 | Ferret | jair: Ahh, OK, not permissions then. Never mind. |
| 15:51.56 | superlinux | how can I let pppN devioces on pppoe server see each other?what I have is that I can ping the server but I cant ping others on my lan |
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| 15:52.36 | nyk2005 | Someone know why ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat is down? |
| 15:52.49 | Vasistha | nyk2005: yeah, it moved to debian-multimedia.org |
| 15:52.51 | stew | nyk2005: /msg aptitude marillat |
| 15:52.53 | abrotman | use debian-multimedia.org |
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| 15:53.53 | mikefoo | Where can I get a list of options I can turn on that comes with a kernel? I needed preamption, presumption, or something along those line. I can't remember the name exactly. |
| 15:54.22 | nyk2005 | Vasistha, stew: SO cool! |
| 15:55.07 | nyk2005 | stew: those are still kept back: libfaad2-0 libfaad2-dev libxvidcore4 libxvidcore4-dev xvid4conf ANy idea why? |
| 15:55.26 | Vasistha | mikefoo: erm... make menuconfig ? |
| 15:55.26 | jair | Ferret: I think that was all overwritted so I am lost |
| 15:55.39 | Ferret | drasko: readelf -a perhaps? |
| 15:55.43 | jair | it is ok the old home dir have a lot of much important info |
| 15:56.07 | jair | I will need to go find again the few links i have on the mozilla firefox ;) |
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| 15:56.51 | lexton | I have a module that needs perl 5.8.8 |
| 15:56.51 | GaiaX11 | How do i translate an English page into another language using mozilla? Is there a moz plugin for that? |
| 15:56.53 | Ferret | mikefoo: You mean the kernel parameters? |
| 15:56.57 | stew | nyk2005: try "aptitude install libfaad2-0" |
| 15:56.58 | lexton | that's why I need to upgrade |
| 15:57.19 | drasko | Ferret, thanks, bat no. It was nm I was looking for. |
| 15:57.51 | lexton | so can sarge upgrade to perl 5.8.8? |
| 15:57.55 | lexton | through apt-get? |
| 15:59.15 | nyk2005 | stew: strange: libfaad2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 is installed. |
| 15:59.36 | stew | nyk2005: you are trying to mix unstable packages into a stable install, which you shouldn't do |
| 15:59.58 | stew | nyk2005: you should be using marillats "sarge" repository, not "etch" or "sid" |
| 16:00.25 | stew | lexton: no |
| 16:00.41 | lexton | so the only way is through cpan? |
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| 16:00.57 | nyk2005 | stew: so comment out the other in the sources, will fix it prolly? |
| 16:01.09 | stew | lexton: no, the only way is by switching to etch |
| 16:01.19 | stew | nyk2005: change sid to stable |
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| 16:01.36 | stew | nyk2005: if you have already installed some packages from sid, you may have to force them to downgrade |
| 16:01.42 | nyk2005 | stew: only stable main? |
| 16:02.15 | lexton | what is etch? |
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| 16:02.19 | nyk2005 | stew: ok, now I get no more updates for those 4 packages any more.. :) |
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| 16:02.45 | lexton | oh next release after sarge, I see |
| 16:02.47 | stew | lexton: the current "testing" version of debian, which will become the next version of stable someday |
| 16:03.02 | stew | lexton: if this is a server, it is not recommended that you upgrade to etch, however |
| 16:03.43 | nyk2005 | stew: strage... how can I find out if some packages need to be removed or downgraded? |
| 16:03.58 | stew | nyk2005: if nothing is comlaining, then just leave it |
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| 16:04.09 | stew | nyk2005: if those packages were still having problems, then you might |
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| 16:05.37 | nyk2005 | stew: ok, cool. I'm gonna test handling an xvid, and if there are no probs, its all good... |
| 16:05.44 | laserite3 | hi! i didn't find the 'rescue' kernel image in debian boot cd (nor netinst nor the full one) any ideas? |
| 16:06.01 | azeem | laserite3: I don't think it exists anymore |
| 16:06.19 | stew | laserite3: just boot the default or the 2.6 kernel as if you were doing an install, and hit alt-f2 to get a shell |
| 16:07.19 | laserite3 | mmm the problem is that i installed a wrong kernel image, and i deleted the right one |
| 16:07.40 | laserite3 | so... mmm maybe installing from the cd the 2.6.8 kernel image |
| 16:07.46 | lexton | anyone have a nice tutorial on upgrading from sarge to etch? |
| 16:07.47 | laserite3 | i'll try that, thanks! |
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| 16:08.54 | abrotman | %ell lexton about sarge->etch |
| 16:08.59 | abrotman | %tell lexton about sarge->etch |
| 16:09.10 | abrotman | aptitude: tell lexton about sarge->etch |
| 16:09.37 | lexton | is that supposed to trigger a bot reply? |
| 16:09.55 | azeem | abrotman: it's `&' |
| 16:09.59 | keith80403 | %tell keith80403 about sarge->etch |
| 16:10.30 | keith80403 | I'd like the sarge->etch info too, how do I tell the bot to send it? |
| 16:10.45 | lexton | oh it's a PM |
| 16:11.03 | keith80403 | &tell keith80403 about sarge->etch |
| 16:11.10 | azeem | keith80403: please /msg aptitude |
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| 16:12.00 | abrotman | azeem: i realized that after i couldn't figure it out :) |
| 16:12.33 | keith80403 | azeem, Thanks, I'll do that in the future. Ampersand-Tell worked, I got the message. Nice and concise instructions! |
| 16:13.54 | abrotman | so wait .. we've got apt on ~ .. dpkg on ! .. ravenbird on @ .. badgers on % .. and aptitude on & ? |
| 16:13.58 | abrotman | is that all? |
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| 16:14.55 | Daveman | sup abrotman |
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| 16:15.28 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 16:15.33 | Daveman | what's the latest? |
| 16:15.37 | abrotman | rain .. |
| 16:15.40 | Daveman | still?? |
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| 16:15.46 | abrotman | again ... |
| 16:15.47 | Daveman | damn... I'm glad I'm missing that ;p |
| 16:15.52 | abrotman | it's coming for you |
| 16:15.56 | Daveman | nope |
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| 16:15.58 | Daveman | :D |
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| 16:16.20 | abrotman | oh you got some last night though |
| 16:16.21 | Daveman | I'm glad because otherwise it would be like 95F and t-storming |
| 16:16.25 | Daveman | abrotman, no |
| 16:16.34 | Daveman | abrotman, I'm not in joisey :P |
| 16:16.36 | abrotman | htf did you miss that .. you're in jersey |
| 16:16.41 | abrotman | wtf are you? georgia? |
| 16:16.42 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 16:16.51 | Daveman | california, duh :p |
| 16:17.03 | Daveman | :) |
| 16:17.05 | Daveman | \o/ |
| 16:17.09 | Daveman | no rain here :) |
| 16:17.12 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 16:17.30 | Daveman | just nice people, nice weather, and a new car - woo! |
| 16:17.34 | abrotman | grr |
| 16:17.37 | abrotman | food! |
| 16:17.39 | wols_ | somebody please do a raindance. I need one badly |
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| 16:19.00 | Daveman | heehee |
| 16:19.05 | Daveman | so it's been YOU, cydork! :P |
| 16:19.06 | wols_ | forecastfox say current weather is "partly" sunny. that thing is a lying POS |
| 16:19.21 | Daveman | wols, no, see, FOX is a POS :P |
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| 16:20.02 | wols_ | I agree, it's like MUAs. ffox happens to suck least |
| 16:20.15 | rebooted | hello, is there a software for the p2p TV? |
| 16:20.58 | wols_ | yes. it's called bittorrent :) |
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| 16:21.10 | wols_ | seriously: I doubt it unless the protocol that p2p TV uses is open |
| 16:23.15 | rebooted | it's for see : http://wwitv.com/t_tv/7025.asx |
| 16:23.24 | DanTH | i can't seem to find where i can config the screen res on kde |
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| 16:23.30 | DanTH | its a stupid problem |
| 16:24.07 | Hoxzer | guys, whats up with glcore is failing to loading? |
| 16:24.14 | Hoxzer | what could fix it |
| 16:24.33 | Hoxzer | is it a part of nvidia driver or does it come with some external package? |
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| 16:26.28 | paol0 | hello |
| 16:26.48 | hess_CPqD | hello |
| 16:27.07 | paol0 | my uncle has buy to me the ipod nano gb |
| 16:27.54 | paol0 | i can't use why i have not mac ox 10.3.4 |
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| 16:28.30 | kronoz | paol, gtkpod or use amarok to use the ipod i think |
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| 16:28.50 | paol0 | so i am thinking to install lipod, but which version ? |
| 16:29.16 | paol0 | and where can i find ? |
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| 16:29.48 | paol0 | any of you can help me ? |
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| 16:30.23 | Daveman | :o |
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| 16:31.16 | paol0 | the update from jaguar mac os x to tiger mac os x costs 139 euro too much expensive |
| 16:32.07 | Vasistha | paol0: check out gtkpod. |
| 16:32.10 | Eulex | paol0, kronoz gave you the solution |
| 16:32.44 | kronoz | apt-get install gtkpod paol0 |
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| 16:33.46 | LinuxHelp | war95, ping? |
| 16:33.52 | paol0 | Yes, but i need too a connection |
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| 16:34.53 | paol0 | and for mount i need to be sudo on the nokia 770 |
| 16:35.13 | paol0 | That i am not again |
| 16:35.23 | Vasistha | nokia?? |
| 16:35.34 | LinuxHelp | connecting people |
| 16:35.35 | paol0 | Yes nokia |
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| 16:36.16 | Vasistha | paol0: have you *tried* gtkpod? |
| 16:36.57 | paol0 | I must dwnload from where ? |
| 16:37.11 | Vasistha | paol0: dude, for the third time, apt-get install gtkpod |
| 16:37.26 | Vasistha | paol0: are you using debian, ubuntu, knoppix, kanotix, ??? |
| 16:38.04 | paol0 | A mini debian |
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| 16:38.18 | Vasistha | "mini debian"? |
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| 16:38.27 | zinx | i.e. not debian :x |
| 16:38.34 | LinuxHelp | debian that has been stripped of non-essential parts? |
| 16:38.42 | LinuxHelp | those rock |
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| 16:39.06 | oceansblue | my gdm calls fluxbox instead of startfluxbox - I have already edited the Sessions/fluxbox file. Any ideas? |
| 16:39.13 | paol0 | A debian thinked for arm of 125 mb |
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| 16:39.42 | kreg_work | does the business card net install and the regular netinstall both end up downloading the same amount after the install is complete? |
| 16:39.56 | kreg_work | assuming you don't choose any additional pakages on either |
| 16:40.02 | Vasistha | kreg_work: I believe so ... base system should be about the same |
| 16:40.07 | kreg_work | ok |
| 16:40.11 | Vasistha | ...if not exactly the same ;-) |
| 16:40.17 | stew | kreg_work: no, the netinstall doesn't have to download base since its already on the cd (that is the only diffference, where it gets base from) |
| 16:40.23 | paol0 | I mu close a minute |
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| 16:41.34 | zinx | same way you install them for any other kernel |
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| 16:41.51 | LinuxHelp | zinx, I dunno.. |
| 16:41.59 | simonrvn | if it hasn't been patched for 2.6.16 and above, you won't have any luck at all |
| 16:42.06 | LinuxHelp | the supplied installer didnt do so well |
| 16:42.21 | LinuxHelp | it compiled, but screen just blanks and xdm crashe |
| 16:42.22 | simonrvn | period. though i think the sid and etch packages have the patch(es?) |
| 16:42.32 | zinx | installer.. |
| 16:42.40 | zinx | Linux: there are debian packages for the nVidia drivers |
| 16:42.47 | LinuxHelp | hmm, I'm testing, and I only saw 2.6.15-nvidia |
| 16:42.48 | simonrvn | read your logs. like any other system use |
| 16:42.50 | zinx | which you should almost certainly be using instead of nVidia's installer |
| 16:43.02 | simonrvn | nvidia's installer is crap anyway |
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| 16:43.20 | kreg_work | stew, ok sounds good |
| 16:45.22 | LinuxHelp | simonrvn, do you think its worth trying to find a source-deb? |
| 16:45.54 | simonrvn | !tell LinuxHelp about nvidia one-liner |
| 16:46.10 | simonrvn | wtf is the bot? |
| 16:46.16 | simonrvn | @tell LinuxHelp about nvidia one-liner |
| 16:46.24 | LinuxHelp | !tell simonrvn that that command dont work |
| 16:46.54 | phaedrus44 | morning yalls |
| 16:46.59 | LinuxHelp | !tell simonrvn @ works |
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| 16:47.08 | simonrvn | do you mind? |
| 16:47.22 | phaedrus44 | how do i add .001 .002 .003 ... files together |
| 16:47.32 | phaedrus44 | never had to do it in linux before |
| 16:47.40 | stew | LinuxHelp: you need to be more specific than "dont work" tell us what is not working, and what errors you get |
| 16:47.52 | stew | phaedrus44: with "cat" |
| 16:48.04 | charzero | phaedrus44: cat [files] > added.txt |
| 16:48.26 | dagio | LinuxHelp: maybe this helps? http://blog.linux.it/dan/geek_life/2006/06/23/nvidia_legacy_driver_amp_udev What's the problem? |
| 16:48.33 | phaedrus44 | cat ...hmm |
| 16:48.33 | LinuxHelp | stew: interestingly, dmesg has nothing bad, and no errors are displayed: its just like I said screen blanks when I start xdm |
| 16:48.41 | LinuxHelp | and then xdm dies |
| 16:48.55 | dagio | LinuxHelp: try look at /var/log/xdm.log |
| 16:48.56 | phaedrus44 | do i have to list all the files that need to be added together? |
| 16:49.05 | stew | LinuxHelp: check the xserver logs |
| 16:49.10 | Vasistha | Phrozen_One`: you can probably glob them, like filename.0* |
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| 16:49.55 | [Cadet] | phaedrus44: Is this an archive you are working with? |
| 16:50.14 | LinuxHelp | stew: which file would that be? |
| 16:50.22 | Vasistha | oops, sorry Phrozen_One` wrong highlight, shoulda been phaedrus44 |
| 16:50.27 | paol0 | http://www.nokia.it/nokia/0,6771,75904,00.html |
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| 16:50.38 | Vasistha | ahh, he's Italian... |
| 16:50.39 | phaedrus44 | just a file split up..i used to use hjsplit in windows |
| 16:50.43 | Hoxzer | GEEZ |
| 16:50.48 | phaedrus44 | .001 .002 .003 .... |
| 16:50.52 | Hoxzer | Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! <- could this stop x from loading? |
| 16:50.55 | stew | LinuxHelp: which x server are you running? |
| 16:51.01 | simonrvn | phaedrus44: you were already told how to do it |
| 16:51.10 | stew | LinuxHelp: its going to be something like /var/log/X*.0.log |
| 16:51.30 | paol0 | uname -a Linux nokia 770 |
| 16:51.34 | simonrvn | phaedrus44: yes. you can loop it if you like ... |
| 16:51.36 | phaedrus44 | simonrvn: and if i understood i would be off ....ok? |
| 16:51.52 | Vasistha | paol0: incidentally, have you asked in #debian-it ? Of course your english is okay, but you might have an easier time there if there are people who can help you |
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| 16:52.15 | charzero | phaedrus44: cat file.001 file.002 file.003 > file.complete |
| 16:52.19 | simonrvn | ffs, why do people assume you're in bad mood... fuck |
| 16:52.21 | paol0 | not yet |
| 16:52.25 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: what are the files called? like qwygibo.001 qwygibo.002 |
| 16:52.57 | phaedrus44 | Vasistha ..yeah exaclty |
| 16:53.03 | phaedrus44 | exactly |
| 16:53.14 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: uh, no, not exactly -- I assume your files are not called 'qwygibo' |
| 16:53.19 | phaedrus44 | hehe |
| 16:53.23 | phaedrus44 | yeah |
| 16:53.45 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: ...and how many are there? And are you trying to split them, or join them? I had the impression you were trying to join them |
| 16:53.59 | phaedrus44 | yeah join them...thers like 20 |
| 16:54.06 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: yeah, what are they called, eh?? |
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| 16:54.36 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: if you come over to #bash I'll be less impatient ;-) |
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| 16:54.42 | phaedrus44 | hehe |
| 16:54.57 | phaedrus44 | hey , i actually just found a program called lxsplit |
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| 16:55.15 | phaedrus44 | looks like it will do the trick...thanks a million for the help though....i appreciate it |
| 16:55.36 | stew | phaedrus44: cat file1 file2 file3... > joinedfile |
| 16:55.49 | stew | phaedrus44: if they are all named similarly, then "cat file* > joinedfile" would work |
| 16:55.55 | phaedrus44 | hehe...sorry Vasistha ... |
| 16:56.08 | phaedrus44 | oh..cool...the star! |
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| 16:56.24 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: if you take just a little time to actually explain what you want, then you will have much success, and find you can do things much faster... |
| 16:56.33 | phaedrus44 | thanks stew: thanks charzero: t |
| 16:56.49 | charzero | phaedrus44: buy this book and read it: http://www.harley.com/books/sg2.html |
| 16:56.51 | phaedrus44 | i know Vasistha: ill werk on my explaination skillz |
| 16:56.57 | foo | http://pastebin.ca/79712 - what is up with this error? Someone tries to login via FTP, and my logs say that. I have AuthUserFile /etc/AuthUserFile in the config ... so logins should be taken from that. Any ideas? |
| 16:57.09 | phaedrus44 | im reading City of God right now..but when im done |
| 16:57.22 | Vasistha | AFK |
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| 16:57.49 | paol0 | in debian-it there are only geek, 16 years old too much stupid |
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| 17:02.45 | Vasistha | paol0: we're mostly geeks here, too ;-) |
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| 17:03.44 | [Cadet] | So would it be considered a but if gphoto2 was setup to use the camera group but would only work if the camera group was a local group? I'm using NIS and it doesn't want to work properly. Using a different group works fine. FWIW my nis stuff is setup properly and has worked for years |
| 17:03.51 | [Cadet] | considered a bug that is |
| 17:04.08 | wols_ | but the ratio of 16 year olds is too low. mostly old farts in this channel :) |
| 17:04.13 | Vasistha | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.42 | wols_ | and the thing is supposed to use wireless I thought? |
| 17:05.04 | Hoxzer | :DD geez, I'm getting mad with this like there is no errors in the Xlogfile but it just doesn't load |
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| 17:07.56 | kreg_work | is there a way to do a more minimal install of debian? just making a router/firewall/gateway |
| 17:08.05 | kreg_work | don't need openoffice dictionary. |
| 17:08.15 | itchi | He guys, which app i need to define the additional buttons on my mouse? |
| 17:08.41 | wols_ | kreg_work: install a small iso. I like the woody basedbs only, then upgrade to sarge or even etch from there |
| 17:09.05 | wols_ | it's a 40MB iso. very small 50MB or so system, very bare. only usable to get on the intarweb and get more of the things oyu need |
| 17:09.10 | Vasistha | kreg_work: maybe you want to look into one of those firewall distros? |
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| 17:09.24 | wols_ | Vasistha: is there anyone debian based? |
| 17:09.39 | Vasistha | wols_: I'm not sure, but I bet there is. distrowatch.com ? |
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| 17:09.49 | itchi | Or know you the keyword to search to in synaptic, that would be great :-) |
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| 17:10.15 | cydork | kreg_work: check this http://avocet.cs.umanitoba.ca/~ummcki01/minidebian/index.html |
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| 17:12.48 | LinuxHelp | Perhaps I'm missing some package? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/56VF6S72.html |
| 17:13.05 | LinuxHelp | ^^ error occurs right at end |
| 17:13.08 | charzero | #define EXTRA_MOUSE_BUTTONS |
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| 17:13.51 | LinuxHelp | Basically, when I start xdm, my screen goes blank, and xdm quits |
| 17:14.47 | LinuxHelp | It cant find GLcore either, thats why I think I'm missing a package |
| 17:15.31 | Vasistha | itchi: it might be configurable through some kind of hotkeys interface, or perhaps through X |
| 17:16.04 | itchi | Vasistha: I'm missing the names of it, but i go to look for 'hotkeys' thanks ;-) |
| 17:16.12 | Hoxzer | somebody wants to tell me why my X wont start without mouse :D |
| 17:16.17 | Hoxzer | this is getting interesting |
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| 17:16.30 | rhalff | LinuxHelp, maybe you are starting xdm as non-root ? |
| 17:16.55 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, nope it works with "nv" instead of "nvidia" |
| 17:17.08 | LinuxHelp | and yes I logged in as root first :) |
| 17:17.26 | rhalff | LinuxHelp, ah ok I noticed xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted |
| 17:17.27 | LinuxHelp | and I tried modprobe nvidia as well |
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| 17:18.17 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, lemme check the successful log for that, one sec |
| 17:19.00 | Vasistha | kreg_work, wols_ : http://www.debian.org/misc/children-distros |
| 17:19.27 | kreg_work | col |
| 17:19.31 | kreg_work | cool |
| 17:19.33 | kreg_work | thank you |
| 17:19.37 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, successful log doesnt have that line |
| 17:20.17 | LinuxHelp | But I think the main issue is some file is misplaced, is there supposed to be a file called "nvidia" and where is it supposed to be? |
| 17:20.38 | rhalff | LinuxHelp, you have to disable dri btw, in the config |
| 17:21.04 | Vasistha | kreg_work: at any rate... regardless of that, if you know how to configure iptables, you could just install the base system |
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| 17:21.36 | kreg_work | no problem configuring iptables, just felt funny watching lots of other pakges like g++ get downloaded |
| 17:22.00 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, what config file is that? |
| 17:22.05 | Vasistha | the base system is looking a little fat, huh? |
| 17:22.34 | rhalff | LinuxHelp, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 17:22.47 | kreg_work | Vasistha, heh, i'll leave that opinion upto the debian gods |
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| 17:23.17 | Vasistha | kreg_work: g++ in particular might be, e.g., for compiling updated kernel modules or whatever (I have no idea of people ever write modules that aren't vanilla-C) |
| 17:23.17 | itchi | Vasistha: In the past i had used lineak btw, just checked |
| 17:23.23 | Vasistha | s/of/if/ |
| 17:23.24 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, both me and grep say dri is not there |
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| 17:23.59 | rhalff | LinuxHelp, hm, ok I see you don't even have the nvidia module, I didn't come to that point yet :p |
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| 17:24.40 | LinuxHelp | rhalff, well modprobe nvidia works |
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| 17:24.57 | LinuxHelp | but xorg seems a little blind |
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| 17:26.25 | maxy | hi, I am having this "lovely" udev-problem, no I try to fix it from knoppix |
| 17:26.33 | itchi | Vasistha: I go to try with that but it's talk about keyboard an not mouse :-/ |
| 17:26.40 | maxy | but I get this: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-486 has been altered. Cannot update. |
| 17:27.00 | LinuxHelp | I hate initrd's |
| 17:27.01 | kreg_work | is there a way to make vim more colorful, such as vim on fedora? |
| 17:27.33 | maxy | during the update of udev - now what is that supposed to mean... maybe the script failed before, hm? |
| 17:27.37 | dabreegster | kreg_work: :syntax enable, try that |
| 17:27.51 | kreg_work | dabreegster, is that a .rc file in ~ ? |
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| 17:28.04 | dabreegster | kreg_work: You can set that in your local vimrc, or the systemwide version |
| 17:28.17 | dabreegster | kreg_work: Or you can do it in vim. In command mode, type :syntax enable |
| 17:28.24 | Vasistha | itchi: hrm, yeah ... well, I dunno! it might be worth a shot, though, extra mouse buttons are relatively uncommon, perhaps the keyboard util will detect them?? If not, it probably lies in your X conf |
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| 17:29.14 | itchi | Vasistha: I'm not know to, for the keyboard i know howto, but an mouse i have neve do it |
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| 17:30.27 | rhalff | kreg_work, an example http://www.rhalff.com/Download/vimrc |
| 17:30.35 | Newk | i want to set up a dualboot hd with 98micro and debian.... what filesystem would be best for the 98micro part? |
| 17:30.58 | Newk | fat32? or NTSF? |
| 17:31.09 | rhalff | kreg_work, hm, and I ripped it from here http://www.hermann-uwe.de/misc/vimrc :) |
| 17:32.15 | Vasistha | Newk: well if you want linux to be able to write to it, fat32. If you want it to be more stable, but linux can't write, then ntfs |
| 17:32.34 | Vasistha | Newk: but... I don't think win98 supports ntfs, dunno about this "98micro" thing |
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| 17:32.55 | Newk | ah ok |
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| 17:33.23 | wols_ | vitry: 98micro = wintendo98 - IE |
| 17:33.37 | Newk | Vasistha: thanks |
| 17:33.57 | zinx | welcome to #windows98micro |
| 17:34.06 | Newk | aha |
| 17:34.36 | Vasistha | yes, folks, it still sucks... and it can't get to web sites that only work in msie, or be used by web developers to test their sites with msie |
| 17:35.07 | Newk | zinx: :p |
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| 17:35.24 | rene- | is it possible to read cpu temp from within /proc |
| 17:35.53 | abrotman | if acpi is being used |
| 17:35.54 | zinx | rene-: yeah. but it's smarted to read it from /sys |
| 17:35.56 | Vasistha | rene-: look into /proc/acpi directory |
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| 17:36.06 | zinx | erh, smarter |
| 17:36.21 | zinx | and, even better to use some portable library :/ |
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| 17:37.14 | VolVE | hey all, ocasionally (like right now) when I copy/move data to a different partition, afterwards df shows 0 bytes available, but if I change to that partition and do a test with, say, 'cat /dev/zero >test' it creates the file fine... |
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| 17:38.07 | charzero | Why isn't eth0 a file (/dev/eth0) like everything else in the unix world? |
| 17:38.08 | maxy | I think it can buffer it into memory |
| 17:38.10 | rene- | cool |
| 17:39.32 | maxy | VolVE, IIRC I once upgraded a debian system, but there was enough diskspace only after removing the downloaded files - so it must have hold it in memory |
| 17:40.02 | abrotman | try a sync |
| 17:41.15 | LinuxHelp | whoa, I just got my nvidia to start, it was just like I thought: a misplaced file |
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| 17:42.19 | LinuxHelp | lol |
| 17:42.51 | wols_ | VolVE: ext2 at least keeps some amount of diskspace (5-10%) hidden and available |
| 17:43.12 | wols_ | you can chnage this and other things with tune2fs |
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| 17:46.37 | cureless | charzero: because not everything is a file in unix. |
| 17:46.59 | VolVE | wols_: hidden and available? is there any way to, uhm, un-hide it? :-/ |
| 17:47.26 | VolVE | there partitions are all very large (>200GB) so 5-10% is a lot that I would like to use... |
| 17:47.27 | cureless | VolVE: it is not hidden, it is reserved for the super user. Use tune2fs. |
| 17:47.47 | VolVE | so if I'm root, it'll show-up basically? |
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| 17:48.09 | cureless | VolVE: if you're root you'll be able to use it. |
| 17:48.29 | VolVE | well that explains why my cat /dev/zero worked, but df still doesn't list it [when root] |
| 17:48.57 | cureless | VolVE: for the 3rd time, use tune2fs and change the -m (or -r) setting. |
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| 17:49.19 | keith80403 | &tell keith80403 about sarge->sid |
| 17:49.35 | kenneho | A walkthrough says I have to copy some files to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware, but I don't seem to have the hotplug folder on my system. How can I fix this? Guessing I need to install some package.. |
| 17:49.36 | cureless | keith80403: you can /msg the bot |
| 17:49.43 | keith80403 | &tell keith80403 about sarge->unstable |
| 17:49.45 | kreg_work | i changed files in /etc/rcS.d/ from S to K, yet portmap and other still started. should i be leaving rcS.d alone? |
| 17:49.50 | VolVE | yes cureless, that's what I'm doing, but I still think it strange that a percentage, and hence variable amount of space that is available, can not be viewed with the normal tools, but can be utilized by said normal tools |
| 17:49.53 | abrotman | kenneho: create the folder |
| 17:49.55 | abrotman | keith80403: don't do it |
| 17:49.59 | VolVE | thank you for your help |
| 17:50.19 | keith80403 | cureless, Ok thanks for the reminder, forgot about /msg )-: |
| 17:50.21 | kenneho | abrotman: Just like that? Seems odd, doens't it? |
| 17:50.28 | abrotman | &tell keith80403 about sid upgrade |
| 17:50.45 | abrotman | kenneho: dunno .. i'd just create it :) |
| 17:50.45 | keith80403 | abrotman, OK, I'll read the note you had the bot send me. |
| 17:50.47 | cureless | VolVE: the funny part is that you get to have your disk 106% used. |
| 17:50.57 | VolVE | yeah... whacky |
| 17:51.10 | kenneho | abrotman: :) I'm thinking I may be missing a package or two.. But I'll give it a try. |
| 17:51.22 | VolVE | tune2fs doesn't seem to want to tell me what percentage is currently reserved, hmm |
| 17:51.37 | charzero | cureless: why is there a device for my sound card, my mouse, my hard drive, my video card, and my cd drive, but not for my network card? |
| 17:51.55 | VolVE | I set it to 1% for 2 drives and just reclaimed 17GB, jesus |
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| 17:52.10 | abrotman | VolVE: default is 5 |
| 17:53.05 | VolVE | thanks abrotman |
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| 17:54.27 | cureless | charzero: you have asked a very good question. Only the history of unix networking will answer that. Also, legacy and (the way it should be) play a big role. That and solving file system API problems like locking, multiple reads/writes, multiplexing for sockets, etc. Which might just make a mess out of some systemcalls. |
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| 17:57.31 | Hoxzer | ^^ tell me why doesn't my x start without mouse |
| 17:59.08 | Hoxzer | :/ |
| 17:59.10 | Hoxzer | k |
| 17:59.30 | charzero | What are the things called the plug into a serial port for a managemet cable? |
| 17:59.45 | asg | Hoxzer: Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "True" (put that in your X config) |
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| 17:59.51 | tc | hi, isn't here dpkg??? |
| 17:59.52 | philips | charzero: serial console? |
| 18:00.15 | philips | charzero: null modem cable? |
| 18:00.22 | asg | tc: no, he buggered off. |
| 18:00.28 | asg | tc: use aptitude instead |
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| 18:01.14 | asg | Hoxzer: you will need to put that in a 'Section "ServerFlags"' stanza (create one if you don't have one.) |
| 18:01.15 | wols_ | dpkg took its yearly holiday? where did it go to this year? |
| 18:01.49 | asg | wols_: some idiot yesterday was flooding it; dunno if it was the same one or if Don's lab blew up again. |
| 18:01.52 | tc | asg, ok, thanks |
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| 18:02.33 | trym|work | hmm |
| 18:02.34 | wols_ | asg: "holiday" sounds much better. keep it that way :) |
| 18:03.00 | asg | wols_: the last time a bot went on holiday, it was Riker's 'apt' and when it came back, it was completely schizo. |
| 18:03.01 | trym|work | after enabling the newgen megaraid driver in the kernel.. the kernel does not find my other megaraid card (I have two) |
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| 18:06.34 | vsnb | Hello! Sarge is here ;) I have an odd problem. Some processes hang when i try to terminate them |
| 18:06.52 | vsnb | kill -9 doesnt kill them |
| 18:07.41 | epsilon | random process? |
| 18:07.52 | vsnb | pardon? |
| 18:08.08 | epsilon | any specific process, or any one |
| 18:08.10 | stew | vsnb: kill their parent processes |
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| 18:08.28 | vsnb | stew, their parent seems to be init |
| 18:08.29 | d3t | how do I change my keymap in X? |
| 18:08.48 | Hoxzer | asg: dood, thx |
| 18:08.55 | asg | d3t: /msg aptitude keymap |
| 18:08.55 | stew | d3t: /msg aptitude keymap |
| 18:08.55 | charzero | vsnb: do you know what started the process? |
| 18:08.55 | asg | Hoxzer: you're welcome |
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| 18:09.27 | stew | vsnb: what are they? |
| 18:09.30 | vsnb | charzero, umm,i run them via gnome alt+f2 |
| 18:09.31 | stew | !wb don |
| 18:09.40 | vsnb | they are all about /dev/dsp..skype xmms |
| 18:09.54 | abrotman | stew: bot still hasn't arrived :) |
| 18:10.00 | vsnb | and FF for sometimes |
| 18:10.15 | stew | abrotman: yeah that was my subtle way of indicating that :) |
| 18:10.16 | dondelelcaro | yeah, the power went out 4 hours ago in my lab |
| 18:10.20 | asg | ouch |
| 18:10.33 | stew | dondelelcaro: rolling blackouts again? |
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| 18:11.14 | dondelelcaro | stew: unlikely, because that grid doesn't get them, and this city has its own power generation facilitiies |
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| 18:11.35 | vsnb | ps -aux shows 'D' for each of that hung processes |
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| 18:14.28 | vsnb | so, any guesses? |
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| 18:19.06 | fasta | What package contains xi? |
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| 18:20.09 | wols_ | fasta: packages.debian.org knows |
| 18:20.15 | wols_ | now tell me what xi is please |
| 18:20.32 | stew | fasta: /msg aptitude apt-file ; /msg aptitude search |
| 18:21.19 | jsn | three times now, in the few month or so, my sound has gone kaput. The first time was just a kernel issue, so I went back to 2.6.15 and all was well. I don' |
| 18:21.25 | fasta | stew: I already did apt-file before asking here. |
| 18:21.38 | wols_ | what is xi supposed to be? |
| 18:21.40 | fasta | stew: I need xi.pc, but it's not available |
| 18:21.46 | fasta | wols_: Emacs depends on it. |
| 18:21.50 | jsn | t know what it is this time, but I'd love some sort of very nicely laid out "sound troubleshooting" guide, which says "try this, then this, then this" etc. |
| 18:22.02 | fasta | wols_: Besides that I have no idea what it is. |
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| 18:22.22 | stew | fasta: apt-file finds: libxi-dev: usr/lib/pkgconfig/xi.pc |
| 18:22.23 | wols_ | my tip is it's the s3cr3t lovechild of vi and xemacs |
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| 18:22.59 | stew | fasta: "apt-get build-dep emacs" (or emacs21 or emacs-snapshot or whatever you are trying to compile) should install whatever is necessaryb |
| 18:23.03 | d3t | i want to change this character ć to this ç |
| 18:23.56 | d3t | what I need is to change my X keymap? |
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| 18:24.46 | jsn | I can tell with lsmod that the sound drivers are in. Sigh. |
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| 18:25.42 | jsn | What is the next thing to try? |
| 18:26.54 | jsn | It was working yesterday, for example. |
| 18:27.04 | jsn | And this isn't a sleep issue, since I am on a fresh reboot. |
| 18:27.14 | fasta | stew: odd, I did apt-file update && apt-file seach xi.pc, and I don't get any result. |
| 18:27.41 | fasta | stew: This must be a bug in apt-file. |
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| 18:31.49 | jsn | snd tips, anyone? |
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| 18:33.55 | roxy_ | I got no sound out. What should I check for ? (what I did was dmesg: no special output, /etc/init.d/alsa reload: no problem aparent) |
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| 18:36.35 | ttyfscker | can someone tell me what package contains SDL ? i am trying to install D2x (Descent 2) and it requires sdl but i dont know which package contains sdl |
| 18:36.59 | infernix | try apt-cache search sdl or libsdl |
| 18:37.06 | daryl- | I've just installed Debian, when I press Alt+2 - for example to change window in irssi - it just pastes a ² |
| 18:37.10 | ttyfscker | would it be the lib that it needs? |
| 18:37.19 | infernix | prolly yes |
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| 18:37.51 | daryl- | In term is pastes that too, rather than doing (arg: 2) |
| 18:38.07 | jsn | What about looking for bloat? I swear I had gotten one partition down to 73% yesterday, and it is up to 85% today. I'm concerned. Is there a program I could run to monitor it nicely for me? |
| 18:38.15 | ttyfscker | libsdl1.2-dev would that be what i need? |
| 18:38.28 | roxy_ | ttyfscker: doesn't "apt-get install d2x" install everything ? |
| 18:38.44 | ttyfscker | roxy_, there is no d2x on the repos |
| 18:38.48 | dondelelcaro | jsn: du will clue you in to what is using diskspace; if you want to track it, consider something like munin or similar. |
| 18:39.00 | rue_work | jsn apt-get install localepurge |
| 18:39.07 | groleo | ttyfscker: the -dev packages contains the headers |
| 18:39.11 | rue_work | jsn apt-get install deborphan |
| 18:39.11 | groleo | so you wont need that |
| 18:39.24 | rue_work | jsn apt-get install logrotate |
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| 18:39.27 | daryl- | Any ideas how to fix it? |
| 18:39.32 | jsn | I am using du to test. I'll try looking at munin. I'm sure I've been doing localepurge. deborphan and logrotate aren't it :) |
| 18:39.46 | ttyfscker | groleo, what do i need then? there is like 30 diff things listed.. im building d2x from source. i figured the headers were what i did need |
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| 18:39.58 | jsn | thx, dondelelcaro and rue_work |
| 18:40.02 | dondelelcaro | jsn: well, if you're using du, then you should be able to tell which directories are using the space, and use that information to figure out which packages you want to remove etc. |
| 18:40.08 | groleo | oh, yes, if you're building from sources yes |
| 18:40.15 | jsn | I did it yesterday, so I can't recall what they were. |
| 18:40.17 | groleo | lemme try to build it too :) |
| 18:40.27 | jsn | I thought I had done the job, and could rest easy. |
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| 18:41.32 | d3t | where can I find a keySym list? |
| 18:41.33 | rue_work | run orpahner ? |
| 18:41.37 | Thanatermesis | why apt-file not works more (etch) ? |
| 18:41.37 | rue_work | jsn? |
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| 18:41.47 | rue_work | Thanatermesis apt-file update |
| 18:41.56 | Thanatermesis | rue_work, yeah... the update not works |
| 18:42.10 | rue_work | Thanatermesis it takes a long time and dosn't give you a progress report, it just sits there looking like its hung |
| 18:42.15 | jsn | rue_work, this is a system running stable, with no newly added packages in a year or so. If there was an orphan, its been around a while, and I'm not worried :) |
| 18:42.30 | Thanatermesis | rue_work, not really.. it just return your console... don't update anything |
| 18:42.36 | rue_work | jsn well, from root |
| 18:42.58 | rue_work | jsn du --max-depth=1 / > `date`.log |
| 18:43.08 | jsn | rue_work, ah, nice |
| 18:43.09 | rue_work | and diff it over a few days |
| 18:43.14 | rue_work | see where its going |
| 18:43.27 | jsn | merci beaucoup |
| 18:43.33 | rue_work | :) |
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| 18:43.55 | MM2 | what is tar's errorcode 25? |
| 18:44.01 | ttyfscker | nobody here knows of a d2x debian package do they? |
| 18:44.08 | ttyfscker | that would save me having to compile this sucker |
| 18:45.02 | jsn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.02 | jsn | -bash: `date`.log: ambiguous redirect |
| 18:45.22 | roxy_ | ttyfscker: i don't, but when you do one, please share it :-) |
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| 18:46.02 | Thanatermesis | rue_work, if you use apt-file.. try to update it |
| 18:46.04 | dondelelcaro | jsn: you waht $(date +%Y%m%d) then. |
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| 18:46.12 | gapz | 'lut |
| 18:46.14 | ttyfscker | roxy_, descent was one of my all time favs |
| 18:46.16 | gapz | 'lo* |
| 18:46.23 | ttyfscker | im sure it was a lot of other peoples too |
| 18:46.38 | daryl- | How can I make ALT+2 work as it should, rather than just pasting a ² ? |
| 18:46.40 | rue_work | Thanatermesis like I said, it LOOKS like its hung cause it dosn't give you any progress data, but it IS working, it takes about half an hour |
| 18:47.04 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: in an xterm? |
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| 18:47.11 | daryl- | in everything |
| 18:47.14 | rue_work | jsn maybe just do the date by hand :) |
| 18:47.25 | rue_work | or... |
| 18:47.30 | rue_work | its probably the format |
| 18:47.50 | rue_work | you might need to use date +"%d%m%y" |
| 18:47.54 | jsn | dondelelcaro had the right syntax, with $(date +%Y%m%d), and I did hardcode it :) |
| 18:47.54 | ttyfscker | roxy_, well i got past the sdl issue.. configure completed successfully.. its making now |
| 18:47.56 | ttyfscker | :) |
| 18:48.06 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: xev; and see what alt is sending, then use xmodmap to assign it to a key that is on mod1 |
| 18:48.20 | rue_work | ok |
| 18:49.02 | daryl- | keycode 64 |
| 18:49.37 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: it'll give you more information, like what key it's translated into, etc. |
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| 18:50.01 | tarzeau | who was it that asked me yesterday about the space shuttle start of yesterday? |
| 18:50.08 | tarzeau | here's some material http://www.nasa.gov/mp4/151590main_121_launch_fixed_vodcast.mp4 |
| 18:50.25 | daryl- | dondelelcaro: it says Alt_L |
| 18:50.27 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: although, 64 is Alt_L, which tells me that it's probably set right. Are you using xterm? |
| 18:50.28 | daryl- | which is correct |
| 18:50.29 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 18:50.31 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:50.47 | daryl- | yes, it's xterm |
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| 18:52.17 | stew | daryl-: try these resources: XTerm*eightBitControl: False ; XTerm*eightBitInput: false |
| 18:52.52 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: what stew said is the problem. |
| 18:53.14 | daryl- | how do I fix it? |
| 18:53.24 | daryl- | Where are those things to change? |
| 18:53.32 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: set that in your .Xresources or specify them on the command line. |
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| 18:53.46 | dondelelcaro | daryl-: use xrdb -merge < .Xresources; to set them right now. |
| 18:53.48 | stew | daryl-: add "XTerm*eightBitControl: False" and "XTerm*eightBitInput: false" to ~/.Xresources ; and run xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources |
| 18:54.17 | roxy_ | (sorry to ask less than 30 mn after I first asked, but the match starts in 5mn :/)I got no sound out. What should I check for ? (what I did was dmesg: no special output, /etc/init.d/alsa reload: no problem aparent) |
| 18:54.32 | stew | hmm, interesting that I had both false and False |
| 18:54.33 | d3t | how do I change my keyboard layout in X : |
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| 18:54.45 | stew | d3t: /msg aptitude keymap |
| 18:54.55 | dondelelcaro | d3t: change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or use xkbsel |
| 18:55.45 | daryl- | Do I need to restart X for it to take effect? |
| 18:56.11 | stew | daryl-: not if you xrdb -merge |
| 18:56.31 | daryl- | do I need to restart the xterm? |
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| 18:57.43 | stew | daryl-: yes |
| 18:58.22 | daryl- | stew: just restarted X |
| 18:58.26 | daryl- | still doesn't work |
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| 18:58.31 | daryl- | :-/ |
| 18:58.39 | stew | daryl-: run "xrdb -merg ~/.Xresources " and try again |
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| 18:58.52 | stew | daryl-: without restarting x, just restart xterm |
| 18:59.17 | MM2 | How I can find out what tar: terminated by signal 25 means and what caused it? |
| 18:59.19 | daryl- | nope, same problem |
| 19:02.00 | blondie | MM2: means the file is too big |
| 19:02.50 | MM2 | what is sizelimit? I'm using 2.6 kernel with ext3 over nfs |
| 19:02.59 | blondie | maybe 2GB |
| 19:03.07 | blondie | depends what version of NFS |
| 19:03.47 | stew | daryl-: hrm, that really should have fixed it. you didn't get any errors from xrdb -merge ? |
| 19:03.52 | MM2 | blondie: 1.0.6, but there is files about 5GB |
| 19:04.00 | blondie | MM2: that's not the NFS version |
| 19:04.13 | blondie | did you create those files using NFS? |
| 19:04.23 | stoned | blondie, I dunno what nfs I have, never checked, but I use RFS+NFS and i've untarred and successfully xferred 7.x GB DVD isos |
| 19:04.23 | MM2 | blondie: yes |
| 19:04.40 | stoned | I have even extracted from local to remote using NFS with some images |
| 19:04.46 | daryl- | stew: nope, no errors |
| 19:04.54 | blondie | whatever, signal 25 means the file is too big |
| 19:04.58 | MM2 | blondie: how to find out which version of nfs I have? |
| 19:05.19 | stew | daryl-: and you are using an xterm, not a uxterm or some other derivative? |
| 19:05.29 | daryl- | ps says xterm |
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| 19:05.45 | daryl- | oh wait |
| 19:05.54 | daryl- | it says xterm -class UXTerm :P |
| 19:06.19 | stew | daryl-: copy the XTerm lines to also appear as UXTerm |
| 19:06.20 | blondie | MM2: don't remember |
| 19:06.28 | stew | daryl-: and run xrdb -merge again |
| 19:06.52 | kaitlyn | Hi I am running Debian Stable, and when trying to install rar/unrar apt-get tells me there is no candidate. Can someone tell me what repo that I can add which will have it? |
| 19:07.13 | stoned | kaitlyn, non-free contrib |
| 19:07.15 | Hoxzer | where does apt save source files? |
| 19:07.38 | daryl- | stew: fixed :D |
| 19:07.40 | stoned | kaitlyn, I usually add those two and then apt-get get install zip unzip rar unrar arj p7zip |
| 19:07.42 | Vasistha | Hoxzer: I think it actually puts them in your pwd! |
| 19:08.09 | korihor | aptitude install unrar-free |
| 19:08.13 | daryl- | stew: next question, how do I swap which mouse button pastes? |
| 19:08.40 | MM2 | I found the reason: fstab has on server fstype auto, and hd is mounted as ext2, Can I put ext3 to fstype and except all to be working fine? |
| 19:08.46 | stoned | daryl-, middle mouse button pastes from buffer, dunno how to change it. Maybe in xorg.conf ? |
| 19:09.05 | korihor | https://gna.org/projects/unrar |
| 19:09.07 | kaitlyn | stoned: Thanks. :) Worked great. |
| 19:09.19 | stoned | kaitlyn, you're welcome |
| 19:09.21 | stew | daryl-: i believe you could remap the buttons with xmodmap and swap 2 with some other button |
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| 19:10.03 | Hoxzer | Vasistha: :( pwd? :( |
| 19:10.24 | Vasistha | Hoxzer: it stands for present working directory. Go to a terminal and type pwd |
| 19:10.38 | daryl- | ok, thanks |
| 19:10.52 | wols_ | Hoxzer: it saves .debs, but no source files |
| 19:11.29 | nile | Vasistha, I always think it's "cwd" - current working directory |
| 19:11.36 | Hoxzer | Vasistha: maaan .... |
| 19:11.45 | Hoxzer | :D yeah! |
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| 19:12.06 | Vasistha | bash: cwd: command not found |
| 19:12.10 | priyank | eww |
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| 19:12.30 | rohan | priyank: :) |
| 19:12.32 | rohan | !rohan |
| 19:12.42 | Vasistha | nile: echo "$PWD ... $CWD" |
| 19:13.15 | rohan | oh, no dpkg ? :( |
| 19:13.22 | priyank | heh |
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| 19:15.14 | nile | Vasistha, what's your point? 0_0 |
| 19:15.26 | Deformative | I have a bit of a problem, I need to boot a usb device, but my bios dose not support it, and I do not wanna screw with my bios, dose anoyone know of a boot cd/floppy or something of that nature that will allow me to do this? |
| 19:15.31 | Vasistha | nile: what's this about "cwd"? |
| 19:15.35 | nile | Vasistha, I know that cwd doesn't exist.. I just often think pwd is cwd |
| 19:15.53 | tarzeau | slm Xybernaut |
| 19:15.58 | Vasistha | nile: hrm. So you're trying to impress your confusion upon to us all, huh? :D |
| 19:16.30 | nile | Deformative, you want a boot cd that will boot a boot usb drive? |
| 19:16.30 | junix-other | why would i be getting this error: root@1[knoppix]# mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3 |
| 19:16.30 | junix-other | mount: Operation not supported |
| 19:16.30 | junix-other | ???? |
| 19:16.30 | nile | Vasistha, just sharing a friendly anecdote :( |
| 19:16.48 | Vasistha | nile: aww, didn't mean to be hard on you (just teasing) ... I just thought it was confusing! |
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| 19:17.02 | Deformative | Nile, basically. |
| 19:17.11 | jsn | junix-other, well, you could try mount -v ... just to see if verbose helps. |
| 19:17.12 | Vasistha | junix-other: I'd say the main problem is that you're using knoppix and you are asking questions in #debian |
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| 19:17.16 | Yns_ | ubuntu rocks |
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| 19:17.33 | jsn | Yns_, you have a virus, reinstall debian. |
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| 19:17.37 | stew | Yns_: ubuntu is off-topic here. do you have any debian related questions? |
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| 19:17.39 | gneral | hi |
| 19:17.40 | highvoltage | so does most debian-based distros :) |
| 19:17.41 | Vasistha | junix-other: are you on a live CD? |
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| 19:17.56 | Yns_ | i'm trying to fix the virus |
| 19:17.57 | junix-other | Vasistha: on this other box, yes |
| 19:17.58 | Yns_ | sorry |
| 19:18.11 | stew | junix-other: please ask knoppix related questions in #knoppix |
| 19:18.11 | Vasistha | junix-other: "this other box" is the one having the mount trouble? |
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| 19:18.27 | itchi | Hi guys, how do you do for your extra mouse buttons? I think to that back and next button. I have already look to lineak and lomoco. But it's not for my mouse. It's ans PS2 mouse |
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| 19:18.37 | junix-other | Vasistha: yes |
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| 19:18.54 | SexyKen | Quick math question |
| 19:18.55 | Deformative | nile, any ideas on what would do the job for me? |
| 19:19.05 | Vasistha | junix-other: yeah, you definitely need to ask in #knoppix there is almost definitely something knoppix-related going on there, and we in #debian really do now know what that is :P sorry... |
| 19:19.11 | SexyKen | I have 82 which is 3.44 % of the total -- how do I find out what 82 is 3.44% of? |
| 19:19.20 | Vasistha | do now know -->> do NOT know |
| 19:19.21 | abrotman | #maths |
| 19:19.36 | Vasistha | SexyKen: are you asking us how to multiply? |
| 19:19.38 | abrotman | erm .. #math |
| 19:19.55 | Vasistha | SexyKen: first, you'll want to find a girl... and hey, you're SexyKen, shouldn't be too difficult to find a barbie :-) |
| 19:20.13 | wols_ | abrotman: he's Ken. He can't do maths. He only got hired by Barbie for his good looks and him being a hermaphrodite |
| 19:20.21 | abrotman | metrosexual ? |
| 19:20.23 | nile | Deformative, I'm a bit confused - why do you want to boot off a usb drive if you can boot off a CD? |
| 19:20.35 | wols_ | metrosexuals have a penis. Ken does not |
| 19:20.47 | Vasistha | wols_: have you undressed ken to find out? |
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| 19:20.52 | infernix | SexyKen: (100/3.44)*82 i think |
| 19:21.34 | wols_ | Vasistha: 25 years agp. yes. and dressing and undressing those dolls is the point of it all. UNless you just want them to do cruel experiments on |
| 19:21.46 | Vasistha | SexyKen: btw, your original question was excellently worded, and if you understand a basic word-problem-conversion, you could find the answer very easily... |
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| 19:22.20 | daryl- | stew: if I restart X I have to rerun xrdb |
| 19:22.33 | Deformative | nile, so I can have things installed, I am going on a trip, and I wont have internet, so I want to put some stuff on it before i leave. |
| 19:22.37 | daryl- | shouldn't ~/.Xresources be automatically merged? |
| 19:22.38 | Deformative | laptop. |
| 19:22.40 | wols_ | SexyKen is brilliant: go into a geek irc channel and leet all those geeks do your math homework for you |
| 19:22.42 | stew | daryl-: how do you startx? |
| 19:22.43 | wols_ | that's genius! |
| 19:22.48 | daryl- | stew: startx |
| 19:23.02 | Vasistha | SexyKen: you asked "what 82 is 3.44% of?" meaning "82 is 3.44% of what". The word 'is' means '=' and the word 'of' means '*' so you can simply make it '82 = 3.44% * X' and solve for X. '%' means 'divided by 100' |
| 19:23.09 | stew | daryl-: add "xrdb -merge ~.Xresources" to .xsession (or .xinitrc if you use that instead) |
| 19:23.13 | daryl- | I've added the command to .xinitrc |
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| 19:25.48 | vlt | Hello. I want to connect from an ISO8859-15 system to UTF8 and vice versa via ssh. I typed "locale" on the remote machine. There it's "de_DE@euro". I tried "export LANG=de_DE@euro" here on my ubuntu UTF8 shell. Now "locale" here shows "de_DE@euro". But when I connect to the remote shell, I don't see the right chars ... |
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| 19:26.37 | Vasistha | okay, who changed apt's factoid on ubuntu??? |
| 19:26.40 | jetscreamer | ub-nut-two |
| 19:26.48 | jetscreamer | apt died i think |
| 19:26.53 | Vasistha | ~ubuntu |
| 19:26.54 | apt | ubuntu is probably the cleanest, most professional & best supported Linux distribution. Downloads are available at: http://ubuntu.com/download/ |
| 19:26.55 | jetscreamer | &ubuntu |
| 19:26.55 | aptitude | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 19:27.04 | Vasistha | ^^^ what's up with that?? |
| 19:27.13 | jetscreamer | ok so was dpkg reincarnated yet? |
| 19:27.24 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 19:27.34 | wols_ | sabotage from sneaky ubuntu counterrevolutionaries of course |
| 19:27.41 | jetscreamer | lol@apt |
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| 19:27.47 | wols_ | sniff out those traitors to the revolution comrade! |
| 19:27.51 | skybox | okay..... is there ANY gui/no gui/frontend that supports DUAL LAYER BREAK? |
| 19:27.55 | jetscreamer | ~forget ubuntu |
| 19:27.57 | Vasistha | jetscreamer: /whois dpkg |
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| 19:28.36 | jetscreamer | dual layer break? you mean burning dual layer dvd's? |
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| 19:29.14 | jetscreamer | or do you mean splitting a dualie into two standard 4.7 sizes |
| 19:29.28 | jetscreamer | qdvdauthor was gonna put that in, some others were too |
| 19:29.30 | abrotman | apt: ubuntu |
| 19:29.31 | apt | well, ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 19:29.32 | Nei | how can I find out why tla is missing in etch? |
| 19:29.41 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 19:29.44 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 19:29.47 | jetscreamer | &br |
| 19:29.48 | aptitude | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:29.51 | jetscreamer | omg |
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| 19:30.10 | jetscreamer | wtf is the bug site factoid |
| 19:30.26 | jetscreamer | !bugs |
| 19:30.34 | jetscreamer | &bugs |
| 19:30.39 | jetscreamer | fuggit |
| 19:30.40 | aptitude | error: could not parse |
| 19:30.59 | jetscreamer | [14.28.35] <apt> cannot remove factoid 'ubuntu', too old. (13334.8110532407>10800) use 'no,' instead |
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| 19:31.08 | abrotman | !bts |
| 19:31.09 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:31.12 | abrotman | &bts |
| 19:31.12 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 19:31.13 | aptitude | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 19:31.14 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:31.16 | jetscreamer | that one |
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| 19:31.24 | jetscreamer | Nei: ^^ |
| 19:31.31 | monomaniacpat | yo! is there a way to view the most recent changes to your computer? what files were modified, when? |
| 19:31.46 | Daveman | Nei ~_~ |
| 19:31.53 | Daveman | abrotman, it still raining? :P |
| 19:32.02 | skybox | is there ANY gui/no gui/frontend that supports DUAL LAYER BREAK? |
| 19:32.04 | jetscreamer | you stole & from me |
| 19:32.05 | Nei | hi dave |
| 19:32.19 | jetscreamer | skybox: what the f... is dual layer break |
| 19:32.45 | Daveman | Hi Nei |
| 19:32.50 | Daveman | ^^; |
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| 19:33.01 | jetscreamer | Daveman is a jokester |
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| 19:33.12 | itchi | goooaaal :-) |
| 19:33.13 | Daveman | maybe :) |
| 19:33.15 | Daveman | yep |
| 19:33.21 | abrotman | Daveman: nope |
| 19:33.22 | Nei | mhm, I gues its because I'm using amd64 :// |
| 19:33.27 | abrotman | Daveman: did you move? or is it a contract? |
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| 19:33.41 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 19:33.49 | jetscreamer | guess i'll never find out now |
| 19:33.50 | abrotman | nei: are you from phantasy star? |
| 19:33.57 | jetscreamer | ne-hi |
| 19:34.05 | Nei | :) |
| 19:34.08 | Daveman | :) |
| 19:34.09 | abrotman | nei: do you live in Paseo ? |
| 19:34.13 | kreg_work | not a complaint, but a philosophy question..... why no rc.local? debians take on sys v kinda....seems odd |
| 19:34.21 | Daveman | abrotman, oh, I have a place out here, and yeah work too :) |
| 19:34.26 | Daveman | abrotman, I have family out here |
| 19:34.31 | Daveman | and all my friends moved out here |
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| 19:34.33 | Daveman | since the G |
| 19:34.38 | stew | kreg_work: /msg aptitude rc.local |
| 19:34.39 | zinx | kreg_work: because you can make your own init scripts |
| 19:34.43 | abrotman | you wore a gstring? |
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| 19:34.55 | jetscreamer | i have a g-string |
| 19:35.01 | Nei | phantasy star 2 wins |
| 19:35.13 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:35.16 | kreg_work | zinx, i can make my own anything. but, one day someone built a thing called a distorbution and suddenly i didn't have to >: ) |
| 19:35.20 | jetscreamer | it's between the A and the other one i think |
| 19:35.27 | phaedrus44 | France goal |
| 19:36.17 | abrotman | phaedrus44: #worldcup |
| 19:36.30 | zinx | kreg_work: uhm, so you're saying you *don't* want to make custom init stuff? you just want to complain about an antiquated way of doing it not being in debian? |
| 19:36.48 | phaedrus44 | thanks abrotman |
| 19:37.10 | kreg_work | zinx, ah common, i already said it wasn't a complaint. it was a question aimed toward debians philosophy |
| 19:37.39 | kreg_work | i'm asking, why doesn't debian choose to? |
| 19:37.43 | jetscreamer | wtg zinx |
| 19:37.45 | stew | kreg_work: /msg aptitude rc.local |
| 19:37.46 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 19:37.58 | kreg_work | stew, oh, i thought that was a "how to make one" |
| 19:38.15 | fresch | dansguardian and authenticate via identd... what do i have to do to get it to work? i enabled usernameidmethodident and usernameidproxyauth, set up another group, but it wont work. |
| 19:40.42 | meriad | what a boring day sort of |
| 19:41.16 | nile | meriad, #freenode-social |
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| 19:43.41 | phaedrus44 | is there a cd burning program that is not k3b or anything that has to do with gnome or kde? that is just as good as k3b? |
| 19:43.48 | meriad | nile: Your name is nile? as in annilate, as in the fun? |
| 19:43.54 | hologram | phaedrus44: cdrecord |
| 19:44.06 | hologram | its the backend |
| 19:44.14 | hologram | accessible from the commandline |
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| 19:44.31 | phaedrus44 | does deb 3.1 come with it? |
| 19:44.47 | hologram | yes.. if its not currently installed, just apt-get install cdrecord |
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| 19:46.33 | ineiros | What is the easiest way to recover a single "stock" configuration file? The specific problem I had was that somehow /etc/X11/fs/config wasn't updated correctly (probably user error). I was able to correct it manually, but what would have been the "right" way? Purge-install -cycle would work, but seems like a bad idea. |
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| 19:48.14 | jetscreamer | man dpkg --force-help |
| 19:48.28 | jetscreamer | there's a --force-confmiss iirc or something |
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| 19:48.56 | jetscreamer | aka you can tell it to overwrite the config |
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| 19:49.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: tried SuperBunguru yet? http://www.df.lth.se/~jap/superbunguru/ |
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| 19:49.16 | abrotman | no |
| 19:50.49 | Nei | would someone know how to get my joystick to work as a pointer device? |
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| 19:52.19 | user- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:53.45 | Nei | user-, mhm, doesn't work :/ |
| 19:53.49 | roxy_ | any one manage to video chat between linux and mac ? |
| 19:54.24 | Nei | or maybe someone any idea for a suitable place to ask my question :\? |
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| 19:54.31 | tarzeau | roxy_: using the msn client for mac os x? |
| 19:54.38 | jetscreamer | gaimvv? |
| 19:54.56 | roxy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.59 | stoned | hello |
| 19:55.00 | ineiros | jetscreamer: Thanks, that looks like something I was looking for. |
| 19:55.02 | bipolar | I have a usb serial device that requries the usbserial module to be used with a vendor and product id. is there a way I can configure debian to do this automaticly when the device is inserted? |
| 19:55.04 | tarzeau | roxy_: maybe ekiga sucks |
| 19:55.04 | nile | isn't gaimvv not released? |
| 19:55.15 | roxy_ | tarzeau: any other option ? |
| 19:55.16 | tarzeau | roxy_: can you install the msn client for mac? |
| 19:55.25 | tarzeau | roxy_: then use amsn |
| 19:55.40 | roxy_ | tarzeau: thanks, I'll have a look |
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| 19:58.26 | roxy_ | tarzeau: I need a hotmail account ? |
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| 19:59.20 | tarzeau | roxy_: yeah? i think it's possible to use your own account, not sure, i just made a hotmail one |
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| 20:00.01 | roxy_ | tarzeau: I just need to rtfm :-) |
| 20:00.37 | rue_work | if I want to change a hosts name, is there a utility instead of running aroudn the all the files/ |
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| 20:00.38 | rue_work | ? |
| 20:01.45 | liran_ | any ideas how to take a screenshot from console according to X:Y settings of the screen? |
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| 20:03.45 | mz_work | !java |
| 20:04.04 | stew | mz_work: /msg aptitude java |
| 20:04.15 | jetscreamer | java is this coffee stuff |
| 20:04.23 | jetscreamer | java is in nonfree |
| 20:04.24 | mz_work | stew: ah didn't know who to ask since i did not see dpkg :) |
| 20:04.28 | jetscreamer | or is it contrib now |
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| 20:04.36 | jetscreamer | ! ~ @ % |
| 20:04.44 | jetscreamer | ! no workie atm |
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| 20:05.05 | jetscreamer | err & not % |
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| 20:05.11 | jetscreamer | you stole & |
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| 20:07.52 | rue_work | ? |
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| 20:14.23 | Nei | has anyone got an idea why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt create an xorg.conf? |
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| 20:14.37 | stew | Nei: /msg aptitude xorgmd5 |
| 20:14.41 | MarcoPau | hello, is there any application for audio encoding/decoding that you can recommend me? |
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| 20:15.13 | stew | MarcoPau: oggenc oggdec/ogg123 |
| 20:15.14 | Nei | nifty, thanks stew |
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| 20:15.31 | MarcoPau | stew: those are command line apps, no? |
| 20:15.37 | stew | MarcoPau: yes |
| 20:15.40 | MarcoPau | I was searching for a graphic program possibly |
| 20:15.47 | daryl- | what package is xv in? |
| 20:16.01 | rue_work | apt-file search xv |
| 20:16.11 | rue_work | or I can give you a top-secret url |
| 20:16.22 | stew | daryl-: none, its non-free and cannot be included in debian /msg aptitude xv |
| 20:16.23 | daryl- | no such command |
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| 20:16.50 | rue_work | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents |
| 20:16.56 | rue_work | dont tell anyone |
| 20:17.03 | rue_work | or it |
| 20:17.06 | daryl- | I see |
| 20:17.12 | rue_work | 'll get hacked like apt was |
| 20:17.20 | rue_work | so that you can use it |
| 20:17.34 | stew | rue_work: what are you talking about? |
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| 20:17.44 | Nei | stew, now any clue why the steps descibed dont work? |
| 20:18.01 | stew | Nei: the md5sums match? |
| 20:18.02 | MarcoPau | stew: do you know any of those? |
| 20:18.10 | boodie | hi, I can't set up the soundcard with ALSA... I am on an etch/testing (AMD64) with an AC'97 integrated soundcard placed on an ASUS nvidia4 mobo; can anybody help? |
| 20:18.14 | daryl- | any idea how I can copy from UXTerm into firefox? :P |
| 20:18.15 | stew | MarcoPau: i dont' |
| 20:18.33 | stew | daryl-: drag to select, middle button to paste |
| 20:18.43 | daryl- | doesn't paste though |
| 20:18.48 | daryl- | not into firefox |
| 20:18.50 | Nei | stew, md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf and cat /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum produce the same output |
| 20:20.13 | stew | Nei: and it still doesn't create a xorg.conf when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? does it create a xorg.conf.dpkg-dist or something similar? |
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| 20:20.35 | Nei | stew, there is nothing like that in /etc/X11 :( |
| 20:20.44 | Nei | my xorg.conf remains empty |
| 20:20.49 | stew | Nei: what version of xserver-xorg do you have installed? |
| 20:21.21 | Nei | 7.0.22 |
| 20:21.33 | stew | Nei: i don't know then, you might try "dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg && aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg" |
| 20:21.45 | stew | daryl-: it pastes elsewhere though? |
| 20:22.02 | Nei | mhm, I'll try that command.. basically this is just a fresh etch install |
| 20:22.33 | Dunedan | Does anybody know how to give lilo boot parameters like noapic? |
| 20:23.25 | Nei | label parameter |
| 20:23.34 | stew | boodie: "/msg aptitude which module for 0401:" |
| 20:23.35 | Nei | or if you want it in the config, append="..." |
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| 20:24.05 | max_m | What does ^M represent? I forgot and it's kind of tough to Google... |
| 20:24.12 | Nei | stew, that gave me xserver-xorg is not installed, so it will not be reinstalled |
| 20:24.14 | tarzeau | 0x13 |
| 20:24.24 | tarzeau | the middle letter of the alphabet |
| 20:24.25 | stew | Nei: aptitude install xserver-xorg |
| 20:24.28 | jsn | max_m, It is \\n or \\r |
| 20:24.28 | Nei | max_m, sounds like a file that you want to convert from dos to unix format |
| 20:24.30 | tarzeau | with a ctrl ahead |
| 20:24.45 | tarzeau | jsn: just one \ |
| 20:25.02 | jsn | tarzeau, I thought my client would treat them as escapes, yes, just one \ |
| 20:25.10 | rue_work | I have a program called nolf |
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| 20:25.23 | rue_work | that strips the line feeds out of a file |
| 20:25.35 | rue_work | want it/source? |
| 20:25.44 | Vasistha | ~ubuntu rocks is http://david9.freepgs.com/i/ubunturocks.png |
| 20:25.45 | apt | okay, Vasistha |
| 20:25.46 | max_m | Nei: ah, so it's the CR of CRLF |
| 20:25.47 | tarzeau | dos2unix can do it too |
| 20:25.55 | Nei | stew, I now have a seemingly default xorg.conf, but still nothing |
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| 20:25.58 | confuseme_ | anyone here know how to build packages that require lots of python stuff for debian? |
| 20:25.59 | rue_work | ok fine, yea |
| 20:26.05 | max_m | Nei: thanks |
| 20:26.08 | Nei | dpkg-reconfigure wont do s*** |
| 20:26.17 | confuseme_ | it's surprisingly complicated |
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| 20:26.29 | tarzeau | Vasistha: know goatse.cx ? |
| 20:26.32 | stew | Nei: wait, it created one when you installed just now, but now it wont edit it? |
| 20:26.43 | Nei | stew, yea, exactly |
| 20:26.48 | stew | Nei: check the md5sum again? |
| 20:27.07 | Vasistha | tarzeau: of course! but I don't think it's actually there anymore, you have to look for a mirror. I just made that drawing in the last hour... |
| 20:27.15 | Nei | stew, the output is again matching |
| 20:27.32 | stew | Nei: did it ask you questions in order to generate the one that is there now? |
| 20:27.40 | Nei | nope |
| 20:27.54 | stew | that doesn't seem possible |
| 20:28.05 | Nei | why would I be lying :/ |
| 20:28.06 | rue_work | windows can be so frustrating, I like linux cause it just does what I tell it to, weather its what I wanted ot not |
| 20:28.15 | Nei | after the aptitude install xserver-xorg, that file appeared |
| 20:28.32 | tarzeau | Vasistha: yeah some bitch complained: www.linuks.mine.nu/goatse.txt |
| 20:28.33 | jetscreamer | nei did you do the md5sum thingy? |
| 20:28.38 | stew | Nei: try this. dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; rm /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum ; aptitude install xserver-xorg |
| 20:28.39 | jetscreamer | on the .conf |
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| 20:28.50 | Nei | jetscreamer, yes my md5sums are matching |
| 20:28.57 | stoned | rue_work, that goes both way. Every OS has its pros and cons. Nothing is universal |
| 20:29.13 | jetscreamer | nei mv it then touch one and md5sum it and see if it really does create something |
| 20:29.16 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 20:29.23 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 20:29.36 | Nei | stew, dpkg -P removes the xorg.conf |
| 20:29.53 | Nei | as well as the xorg.conf.md5sum |
| 20:30.09 | stew | Nei: but it generates a new one without asking any questions? i don't see how |
| 20:30.16 | stew | Nei: can you please pastebin the one it creates? |
| 20:30.41 | Nei | sure thing, let me quickly to the aptitude install xserver-xorg spell again |
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| 20:32.10 | dats | hello |
| 20:32.29 | Vasistha | tarzeau: hmph, it would seem that goatse.cx was suspended because they linked to a howto on bestiality / dolphin sex |
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| 20:32.47 | TARZEAU | Vasistha: i've got it linked, it's not bestiality |
| 20:32.55 | Nei | stew, in case this has any interesting bits, here is the aptitude install output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VILYNj14.html |
| 20:33.03 | TARZEAU | Vasistha: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/mirror/www.dolphinsex.org/ |
| 20:33.11 | Nei | gah, having to copy links typing them, is very hard |
| 20:33.32 | Vasistha | TARZEAU: so garth miller *is* just full of shit :P |
| 20:33.38 | stew | TARZEAU: please keep it on topic |
| 20:33.53 | TARZEAU | stew: yes sir! |
| 20:34.18 | Nei | stew, http://rafb.net/paste/results/KG395936.html |
| 20:34.26 | Nei | I hope I didnt make a mistake copying the links |
| 20:35.02 | stew | Nei: what is your debconf priority set to? |
| 20:35.27 | stew | Nei: is it possible that this file was created from the answers you provided the last time you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 20:36.00 | Nei | no thats not possible, because I gave it different answers than what it wrote in the file |
| 20:36.05 | munzir | Hi, cron puts some mails on my box that says: run-parts: /etc/cron.hourly/mycron exited with return code 1. does this means there is an error or what? |
| 20:36.07 | Nei | how do I check my priority again? |
| 20:36.14 | stoned | oh my god |
| 20:36.15 | stew | Nei: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 20:36.34 | Nei | the selection is on high |
| 20:36.39 | stoned | I just read bestiality as beastiality, was about to say dude wtf, but nevermind, I'm dyxlexic |
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| 20:37.23 | boodie | stew: how can I find out "which module for 0401:"? |
| 20:37.29 | stew | &which module for 0401: |
| 20:37.29 | aptitude | to find which modules supports 0401:, run this command: grep `lspci -n |awk '/0401:/{sub(":",".*",$3);print $3}'` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap |
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| 20:38.19 | stew | boodie: if its nvsound it will hopefully return snd-intel8x0 |
| 20:38.38 | daryl- | Looks like all this effort was pointless. |
| 20:38.43 | pihhan | may i ask something? |
| 20:38.52 | daryl- | If I want sound I have to use Windows :P |
| 20:38.53 | stew | pihhan: sure, as long as its related to debian |
| 20:39.12 | stew | daryl-: what is wrong with your sound? |
| 20:39.24 | pihhan | do you know where can i set www-data to be allowed send with other source addres in exim? |
| 20:39.31 | daryl- | stew: Creative X-Fi |
| 20:39.49 | dats | does anybody have problemes with e-17 and debian sid ? |
| 20:39.52 | stew | daryl-: what does "lspci -n | grep 040.:" return? |
| 20:39.57 | pihhan | i want to be notified from phpbb2, but not from www-data email address |
| 20:40.07 | user- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.18 | mz_work | dats: like what kind of problems? |
| 20:40.21 | daryl- | stew: 02:06.0 0401: 1102:0005 |
| 20:40.34 | dats | mz_work: that i can't start e-17 |
| 20:40.37 | mz_work | user-: could have just bought a supported sound card ;) |
| 20:40.40 | dats | but yes wmaker for exemple |
| 20:40.56 | Nei | a |
| 20:41.00 | boodie | the command " grep `lspci -n |awk '/0401:/{sub(":",".*",$3);print $3}'` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap" didn't give any answer ... |
| 20:41.01 | mz_work | dats: what e17 repo are you using? |
| 20:41.16 | stew | boodie: what does "lspci -n | grep 040.:" return |
| 20:41.22 | dats | mz_work: this one : deb http://edevelop.org/debian sid e17 |
| 20:41.29 | stew | daryl-: that does't seem to be supported by the linux kernel yet |
| 20:41.29 | dats | the repo of shadoi |
| 20:41.38 | pihhan | nobody knowing exim4 configuration? |
| 20:41.38 | daryl- | stew: nope |
| 20:41.46 | daryl- | there are comments that it never will be |
| 20:41.47 | daryl- | :/ |
| 20:42.16 | mz_work | dats: sorry dunno - i use deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main |
| 20:42.18 | boodie | It returned "00:04.0 0401: 10de:0059 (rev a2)" |
| 20:42.25 | mz_work | working fine here on 2 sid boxes |
| 20:42.37 | dats | mmm |
| 20:42.40 | dats | well |
| 20:42.41 | stew | boodie: what does "uname -r" return? |
| 20:42.43 | mz_work | well .....fine is a relative term for an alpha wm :) |
| 20:42.50 | dats | then i try to change my source ... |
| 20:42.52 | stew | boodie: that card is supported by snd-intel8x0 |
| 20:43.09 | dats | mz_work: but do you have an i386 machine |
| 20:43.09 | boodie | it returned "2.6.8-11-amd64-generic" |
| 20:43.10 | dats | no ? |
| 20:43.25 | mz_work | dats: yep |
| 20:43.46 | stew | boodie: possibly you need a newer kernel then, that card is definately supported in newer kernels by the snd-intel8x0 module |
| 20:43.55 | dats | mz_work: thanks :) |
| 20:44.04 | mz_work | dats: sure np :) |
| 20:44.10 | boodie | stew: I added snd_intel8x0 in /etc/moules ... but still no results |
| 20:44.48 | boodie | I've read somewhere that it works with 2.6.10 or later |
| 20:44.49 | stew | boodie: you are running sarge? |
| 20:44.49 | dats | np ? |
| 20:44.54 | dats | what does it mean it ? |
| 20:44.55 | dats | :S |
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| 20:45.00 | dats | i'm from catalonia .... |
| 20:45.04 | boodie | no, etch |
| 20:45.13 | dats | and i'm a lammer of english language :S |
| 20:45.19 | stew | boodie: oh, then you should just upgrade to a current kernel, /msg dpkg etch upgrade kernel |
| 20:45.22 | argonel | i'm looking for a boot floppy with both gpart and parted, anyone have a hint? |
| 20:45.25 | daryl- | dats: no problem |
| 20:45.28 | stew | boodie: err /msg aptitude etch upgrade kernel |
| 20:46.26 | boodie | Should I upgrade the kernel with dpkg? |
| 20:46.29 | Nei | stew, (the selection is on high), any further idea on your side? |
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| 20:46.59 | stew | Nei: that would explain why its not asking you any questions upon installing, if you set it to medium it would |
| 20:47.25 | boodie | But if I upgraded the kernel, should I also recompile it? |
| 20:47.50 | Nei | stew, that sounds reasonable, maybe I'll put it to medium for the install.. but it should still write the xorg.conf when I try to do it manually :( |
| 20:48.27 | stew | Nei: you shoudl probably check the bts, and reportbug if you don't find a bug already reported |
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| 20:49.16 | Nei | stew, bts for xserver is like long :P I guess I'll take a look |
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| 20:50.33 | roym | folks, I am trying out loadlin on WinXP - I have managed to boot |
| 20:50.33 | roym | correctly into the debian installer and I get the language selection |
| 20:50.33 | roym | prompts. However, it fails to find the iso image (I have the netinst |
| 20:50.33 | roym | .iso file) need guidance in where to copy it to... |
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| 20:50.47 | Nei | stew, you wouldn't happen to have a clue where to find help getting a joystick to work? I'm disabled and currently using windows (first steps in the linux world...) and I cant use a normal mouse. I have a proprietary device that works as an usb joystick but it just cant get it to work on linux (it is detected and works in jstest though) |
| 20:51.00 | roym | folks, I am trying out loadlin on WinXP - I have managed to boot |
| 20:51.00 | roym | correctly into the debian installer and I get the language selection |
| 20:51.05 | roym | prompts. However, it fails to find the iso image (I have the netinst |
| 20:51.05 | roym | .iso file) need guidance in where to copy it to... |
| 20:51.19 | LinuxHelp | which dvd player should I install: xine, ogle, or xmovie? |
| 20:51.26 | Nei | roym, burn a cd instead |
| 20:51.31 | mz_work | LinuxHelp: mplayer |
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| 20:51.41 | mz_work | xine is good too tho if you need menus |
| 20:51.59 | roym | Nei: sigh! I am trying to avoid having to do that... |
| 20:51.59 | pihhan | vlc |
| 20:52.04 | Vasistha | Nei: have you done a google.com/linux search for the device by make/model name? |
| 20:52.07 | jetscreamer | me i use xine-ui and have mplayer around |
| 20:52.17 | LinuxHelp | xine it is then |
| 20:52.20 | stew | Nei: i've never used a joystick, sorry |
| 20:52.23 | jetscreamer | Nei: apt-get install joystick |
| 20:52.25 | boodie | what is the latest kernel available? |
| 20:52.32 | jetscreamer | boodie: that depends |
| 20:52.43 | Nei | jetscreamer, it works with the joystick test programs, but I need it as an input device |
| 20:52.44 | stew | boodie: aptitude install linux-image-2.6 |
| 20:52.46 | Vasistha | roym: I did an install from hard drive iso -- it needed to be in an ext2 partition, in the root folder of that partition |
| 20:52.57 | Nei | Vasistha, thanks for the idea but googling hasnt been any help :( |
| 20:53.04 | stew | boodie: that should get you 2.6.15-1 |
| 20:53.06 | boodie | Well I have 2.6.8.11 for AMD64 ... is it the newest available for this architecture? |
| 20:53.11 | Nei | roym, I doubt you have a linux partition to put the iso on |
| 20:53.12 | stew | no |
| 20:53.12 | roym | Vasistha: thanks - let me try that... |
| 20:53.34 | roym | no; But in this case, it's the windows C; Drive. |
| 20:53.45 | Nei | roym, that wont work |
| 20:53.46 | stew | &info linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 etch |
| 20:53.46 | Vasistha | roym: is that an NTFS drive? |
| 20:53.49 | jetscreamer | Nei: mplayer likes my joystick, all i know. i have the program joystick installed, all i ever needed to do except load the various modules for gameport, joystick, hid/usb whatever |
| 20:53.50 | boodie | But perhaps more recent kernels are un unstable ... |
| 20:53.51 | roym | yes... |
| 20:53.59 | stew | boodie: 2.6.15-1 is in etch |
| 20:54.01 | LinuxHelp | ASCII art video.. LoL |
| 20:54.14 | Vasistha | roym: it's unlikely that the debian installer kernel has ntfs read support |
| 20:54.19 | jetscreamer | 2.6.17.17.1.1 |
| 20:54.20 | Nei | jetscreamer, yes I suspect I would get it to work with mplayer too, since mplayer natively supports joysticks |
| 20:54.27 | boodie | but I can't locate it with aptitude ... |
| 20:54.28 | Nei | jetscreamer, but I need it as a mouse replacement |
| 20:54.56 | Vasistha | Nei: have you been able to track down where it resides in the /dev tree? |
| 20:55.18 | Nei | roym, if you have a steady internet you can use the netinstall instead of the hd-image |
| 20:55.42 | dats | mz_work: it continues crashing |
| 20:55.44 | boodie | OK, found it |
| 20:55.45 | Nei | Vasistha, yes it is a simple /dev/input/js0 or /dev/input/event1 |
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| 20:56.01 | roym | Nei: let me try that.. |
| 20:56.05 | roym | thanks. |
| 20:56.32 | boodie | so - if i did "aptitude upgrade kernel" would it download the kernel binary? |
| 20:56.46 | stew | boodie: it shouldn't, no |
| 20:56.49 | jetscreamer | Nei: so do you have xserver-xorg-input-joystick ? |
| 20:57.01 | jetscreamer | or do you need it |
| 20:57.16 | jetscreamer | &info xserver-xorg-input-joystick |
| 20:57.31 | abrotman | i thought they killed off the -amd64 and -k8 in etch/sid |
| 20:57.35 | boodie | I suspect it's cumbersome, but it might be worth a try ... |
| 20:57.35 | dats | does anybody uses e-17 and debian sid ? i installed it today and it crashes ... any idea? |
| 20:57.55 | Nei | jetscreamer, I tried that thing but it doesn't work, says failed loading module, out of memory 2174659103 |
| 20:58.12 | nile | don't use beta software on unstable? ;) |
| 20:58.14 | abrotman | eh .. that didn't come out right ... sarge had -k8 kernels on i386 .. i don't think etch/sid do |
| 20:58.41 | abrotman | dats: try #e |
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| 20:59.52 | boodie | so: with aptitude, or apt-get, how could I install the newer kernel (i.e. 2.6.15 for AMD64)? |
| 21:00.06 | dats | abrotman: thanks |
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| 21:00.36 | boodie | has France won? it's you against us, then :-) |
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| 21:01.35 | jetscreamer | Nei: no mouse? keypad not good enough you need joystick to be mouse? |
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| 21:01.47 | stew | 16:46 < stew> boodie: err /msg aptitude etch upgrade kernel 16:53 < stew> boodie: aptitude install linux-image-2.6 |
| 21:02.14 | jetscreamer | i had a bad experience with metapackage linux-image-2.6 |
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| 21:02.50 | boodie | aptitude install linux-image-2.6? |
| 21:03.03 | boodie | would it suffice? |
| 21:03.08 | jetscreamer | or apt-cache search linux-image , pick one, then install it |
| 21:03.20 | LinuxHelp | I have an on-board intel sound device, where do I *start* configuring it? (2.6.17 +gnome) |
| 21:03.21 | jetscreamer | or linux-image-2.6 probably |
| 21:03.21 | TARZEAU | APT POPCON |
| 21:03.22 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 21:03.23 | phogg | wop 0x60028d never_use_area on |
| 21:03.33 | phogg | oops, wrong window |
| 21:03.47 | nvz | wow, capital letter TARZEAU |
| 21:03.58 | abrotman | that's how he logged in .. caps lock on |
| 21:04.04 | abrotman | nvz: find my brother a tech job please ... |
| 21:04.11 | nvz | TARZEAU: DID YOUR KEYBOARD BREAK OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO ANNOY US? |
| 21:04.16 | stew | easy |
| 21:04.16 | LinuxHelp | What do I install? alsa or what? |
| 21:04.25 | sng | abrotman: Does he suck? |
| 21:04.27 | TARZEAU | NVZ: KEZBOARD PRBLME |
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| 21:04.33 | LinuxHelp | lol |
| 21:04.42 | abrotman | sng: if you thought i sucked .. he is a black hole |
| 21:04.56 | sng | abrotman: *I* never thought you sucked. :P |
| 21:05.05 | boodie | ahum ... normally I would put the sources in /src/linux (or something), and then do the make menuconfig .. |
| 21:05.08 | nvz | ah, thats too bad.. I dont know about your area but there is a "Big Lots" about 1 mi from here that has a general electric keyboard for $6 USD |
| 21:05.11 | TARZEAU | NVZ: I WAS DRINKING MILK AND WHEN I SEE FRENCH INSERT BALL I SPILLED SOME INTO MY KEZBOARD |
| 21:05.11 | LinuxHelp | and *I* need some answers |
| 21:05.12 | abrotman | sng: ok .. your mate-ishbosstype dude :) |
| 21:05.16 | abrotman | TARZEAU: for real .. stop |
| 21:05.28 | sng | abrotman: Not my fault you live on on the evil coast. :P |
| 21:05.44 | abrotman | sng: evil coast had nothing to do with it i'm sure :) |
| 21:05.50 | boodie | which is the evil coast? |
| 21:05.50 | nvz | TARZEAU: gonna have to change your keymap, write a script or something.. thats annoying |
| 21:06.03 | TARZEAU | NVZ: FOR WINDOWS? |
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| 21:06.09 | stew | TARZEAU: please turn off your caps |
| 21:06.16 | abrotman | TARZEAU: it's not funny anymore |
| 21:06.28 | sng | abrotman: Had everything to do with it from what I heard. :) |
| 21:06.32 | nvz | abrotman: your brother? doesnt he live in bridgeville or something? and how am I gonna find him a tech job when I cant find myself one.. |
| 21:06.34 | LinuxHelp | it was funny the first time, but not now :) |
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| 21:06.59 | Nei | jetscreamer, yes basically I need this device to be my mouse |
| 21:07.02 | abrotman | sng: doubtful .. i'm useless! |
| 21:07.11 | abrotman | nvz: eh .. somewhere downtown now i think |
| 21:07.21 | LinuxHelp | sooo, must I install alsa to get my sound from my xine to my speakers?? (I'm clueless) |
| 21:07.25 | Nei | jetscreamer, how do I enable the keypad as a mouse replacement? |
| 21:07.30 | stew | LinuxHelp: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 21:07.31 | abrotman | nvz: because he'll do windows support and you won't? :) |
| 21:07.39 | sng | abrotman: So am I and they let me keep showing up. |
| 21:07.41 | LinuxHelp | 2.6.17.3 |
| 21:07.47 | abrotman | sng: you're scary ... |
| 21:07.53 | sng | abrotman: Well yes. :D |
| 21:07.53 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 21:07.54 | dpkg | well, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 21:08.04 | stew | LinuxHelp: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 21:08.23 | stew | LinuxHelp: that will assume that you actually included alsa support when you compiled your kernel |
| 21:09.14 | jetscreamer | Nei: shift+numlock toggles it |
| 21:09.23 | LinuxHelp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.28 | jetscreamer | toggles it on & off |
| 21:09.30 | LinuxHelp | nm |
| 21:09.39 | Nei | jetscreamer, ah yea |
| 21:09.46 | abrotman | doesn't alsa need to be modules .. and not compiled in? |
| 21:09.46 | nvz | abrotman: heh. well thats a good point. I am like RMS in all the bad ways and not in any of the good ways. I am a cynical and stubborn radical, with firm beliefs.. but I dont know what to do about it and never follow through with anything.. heh |
| 21:10.23 | LinuxHelp | er, how do I add my user to the audio group? |
| 21:10.28 | Nei | jetscreamer, it isnt very comfortable though even with my special keyboard |
| 21:10.31 | stew | LinuxHelp: adduser username audio |
| 21:10.37 | LinuxHelp | noo |
| 21:10.40 | nvz | abrotman: and I was willing to work on windows if they offered me a spot on the geek squad.. I just dont want to run my own business.. if I can make someone else out to be the bad guy I can do it |
| 21:10.40 | Nei | actually that special keyboard might make it worse |
| 21:10.42 | LinuxHelp | my existing user |
| 21:10.45 | stew | LinuxHelp: adduser username audio |
| 21:10.48 | LinuxHelp | okay |
| 21:10.54 | jetscreamer | Nei: my thoughts on the matter are to change /dev/psaux to /dev/js0 or something and then play with the button settings in the .conf :)... jbut it's just a thought |
| 21:11.01 | jetscreamer | Nei: ask in #xorg maybe |
| 21:11.10 | LinuxHelp | The user `misha' is already a member of `audio'. :) |
| 21:11.12 | stew | LinuxHelp: that user will have to log out and back in before they get the new privileges |
| 21:11.19 | Nei | jetscreamer, mhm I tried that already but the protocols are too different |
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| 21:11.33 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
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| 21:11.46 | nvz | abrotman: I just couldnt stand comming into peoples homes selling my own business to them knowing I wasnt really solving any of the problems to my level of satisfaction. My standards of service are too high to support windows under my own name |
| 21:11.58 | solemnwarning | What should i add to my crontab for a job that runs every 30 mins? |
| 21:11.59 | boodie | Seriously: if I wanted to upgrade the kernel, is it enough to apt-get it as a source, place it in /usr/src/linux and then run make xconfig or something? |
| 21:12.00 | Gnurdux | why is it that the debian unstable version of tightvncserver, run on testing, doesn't know where the fonts are? |
| 21:12.00 | abrotman | wimp! |
| 21:12.01 | Nei | jetscreamer, I'd also love to have a console mouse solution btw :/ |
| 21:12.06 | jetscreamer | Nei: http://www.google.com/linux?q=joystick+emulate+mouse&restrict=linux |
| 21:12.08 | abrotman | solemnwarning: read the man page |
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| 21:12.11 | jetscreamer | !gpm |
| 21:12.12 | dpkg | methinks gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 21:12.20 | Nei | gpm has a 'js' driver |
| 21:12.22 | Hoxzer | is there any quick way to configure alsa? |
| 21:12.23 | jetscreamer | gpm is mouse for console |
| 21:12.26 | Nei | which .. of course .. does not work |
| 21:12.29 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 21:12.31 | stew | Hoxzer: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 21:12.37 | stew | its alsa day today or something |
| 21:12.43 | abrotman | solemnwarning: specifically .. man 5 crontab |
| 21:12.55 | boodie | Unfortunately, yes .... |
| 21:13.01 | jetscreamer | alsa-bork used to be a good factoid but somebody edited it |
| 21:13.11 | dabreegster | /c/c |
| 21:13.14 | dabreegster | Er, sorry |
| 21:13.29 | jetscreamer | Nei: do you have the program joystick installed? |
| 21:13.33 | nvz | abrotman: I am most likely going to be working as a condiment technician at McD's untill I come up with a better idea.. so I am not someone to ask about tech jobs especially 80+ miles away from where I reside at this point |
| 21:13.47 | boodie | anyway - I couldn't get the mouse working until I loaded the module mousedev |
| 21:13.54 | abrotman | nvz: oh .. popular with the ladies .. "Hey hottie .. want some Mayo!?!?" |
| 21:14.17 | Nei | jetscreamer, I have the package joystick installed which provides jscal and jstest |
| 21:14.23 | jetscreamer | important thing is to have a job |
| 21:14.25 | Jamster | And suddenly...mayor sounds like some leetified mayo. Thanks abrotman :P |
| 21:14.35 | jetscreamer | aka income |
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| 21:15.05 | Fallenou | france is in finale !! yeaaa |
| 21:15.10 | nvz | abrotman: yeah they said its ok to date and relate with co-workers.. but since everytime I go there and order a big breakfast they hand me a platter and look at me like I am stupid when I dont take it.. I dont think they are intelligent enough to be hanging out with me.. cause even I know you have to get hash browns or fries with the damn meals when you are working up front |
| 21:15.18 | jetscreamer | joy2key - Translate joystick movements into equivalent keystrokes |
| 21:15.26 | abrotman | nvz: hehe |
| 21:15.32 | boodie | Fallenou: it' you against us, then ... |
| 21:15.40 | Nei | jetscreamer, keystrokes != mouse :/ |
| 21:15.42 | LinuxHelp | grrr, how do I check whether my kernel supports alsa? |
| 21:15.43 | nvz | doesnt matter which girl is working.. they all try give me the breakfast platter without the hashbrown |
| 21:15.51 | Fallenou | boodie < italian ? |
| 21:15.57 | Gnurdux | abrotman, can you help me: <Gnurdux> why is it that the debian unstable version of tightvncserver, run on testing, doesn't know where the fonts are? |
| 21:16.02 | boodie | Fallenou: yes |
| 21:16.05 | Gnurdux | could not open default font 'fixed' |
| 21:16.05 | Jamster | LinuxHelp: run alsaconf, see if it works. |
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| 21:16.10 | LinuxHelp | it doesnt |
| 21:16.11 | dhuv | hello all |
| 21:16.11 | Fallenou | hééh :) |
| 21:16.12 | abrotman | hrm .. wonder if you could get the blootbots to do architectures .. like "!info vim sid alpha" |
| 21:16.28 | abrotman | Gnurdux: your vnc.conf file is telling it to look in the wrong place |
| 21:16.35 | Gnurdux | abrotman, ah |
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| 21:16.59 | abrotman | Gnurdux: just a guess though |
| 21:17.00 | boodie | Well - to be honest - I even missed the match yesterday (just tells you how much I care about football) |
| 21:17.05 | abrotman | FrankBotBeta: do you do any tricks? |
| 21:17.12 | Gnurdux | abrotman, i bet your right |
| 21:17.16 | abrotman | you're |
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| 21:17.17 | FrankBotBeta | Yay! My master is back! |
| 21:17.23 | blobaugh | abrotman: not yet |
| 21:17.28 | stew | abrotman: currently ravenbird is ppc and the rest are i386, to proivde what you are asking for you'd have to edit blootbot sourcecode but it probably wouldn't be too hard |
| 21:17.31 | Gnurdux | abrotman, ah sorry |
| 21:17.34 | abrotman | FrankBotBeta: love stew |
| 21:17.34 | stew | abrotman: i could run aptitude on amd64 |
| 21:17.58 | kspath | abrotman: yore |
| 21:17.59 | abrotman | stew: i was just wondering after watching you ask about `linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8` |
| 21:18.10 | abrotman | kspath: hi |
| 21:18.12 | stew | oh right, that's why id didn't respond... |
| 21:18.16 | abrotman | yep |
| 21:18.25 | LinuxHelp | war95, ping? |
| 21:18.39 | abrotman | stew: didn't you see my comment about no more -k8 in i386 after that? |
| 21:18.40 | Gnurdux | abrotman, im not using the program "vncserver" tho im just directly doing Xvnc, which always worked before |
| 21:18.50 | stew | abrotman: i have you on ignore |
| 21:18.55 | abrotman | stew: oh .. that sucks |
| 21:18.56 | stew | :P |
| 21:18.58 | kspath | hehehe |
| 21:19.05 | Nei | jetscreamer, the only seemlingly promising program is js2mouse |
| 21:19.07 | pihhan | what program can i use with php4 instead of sendmail -t -i ? |
| 21:19.22 | Nei | jetscreamer, which of course doesnt work either |
| 21:19.24 | abrotman | blobaugh: test your bot in #flood please |
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| 21:19.35 | boodie | Anyway - thanks for information - I will try to upgrade my kernel - the last time I did it I had a MAndrake on... |
| 21:19.39 | Nei | the debian gui installer does *something* with my input device |
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| 21:19.50 | blobaugh | freespace: leave #debian |
| 21:19.55 | Nei | it doesnt work properly, but I can cause the pointer to move a little bit |
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| 21:19.59 | abrotman | blobaugh: or in your own channel .. it's entirely too busy to be messing with a bot here |
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| 21:20.04 | Nei | although still useless, I wonder how it does that |
| 21:20.04 | abrotman | well .. testing a bot |
| 21:20.11 | jetscreamer | Nei: s2mouse 040208 for Linux - Js2mouse converts joystick events into mouse.... http://www.syslib.fr/Projets/Js2Mouse/ |
| 21:20.31 | kspath | !bot |
| 21:20.31 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 21:20.41 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 21:20.41 | dpkg | thanks, jetscreamer |
| 21:20.52 | Nei | jetscreamer, see above :/ |
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| 21:21.04 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 21:21.15 | kspath | Nei: feeding is not abuse. |
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| 21:21.39 | jetscreamer | Nei: if nothing works, then i suspect there could be a kernel module you need loaded |
| 21:21.52 | Gnurdux | abrotman, also, it just dies when called with -inetd |
| 21:22.11 | Nei | jetscreamer, the jstest program (joystick package) confirms that the device works |
| 21:22.13 | abrotman | eh .. checked the BTS? |
| 21:22.43 | Nei | jetscreamer, whit it I see coordinates changing, buttons getting pressed etc |
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| 21:22.57 | jetscreamer | Nei: g'luck dude :| |
| 21:22.58 | Gnurdux | abrotman, whats BTS? |
| 21:23.00 | abrotman | !bts |
| 21:23.01 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 21:23.02 | jetscreamer | !bts |
| 21:23.04 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 21:23.08 | Nei | jetscreamer, yea thanks a lot for your help |
| 21:23.20 | nvz | Nei, try jscalibrate maybe I had good results with it before |
| 21:23.21 | Gnurdux | abrotman, i was thinking it might be because its an unstable package on testing |
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| 21:23.38 | nvz | Nei, if you are getting some reaction but not quite the desired reaction it may just need calibrated |
| 21:23.39 | Nei | nvz, I used jscal and could successfully calibrate my device |
| 21:23.39 | jetscreamer | nvz it works but he wants to use it instead of a mouse with xorgt |
| 21:23.46 | abrotman | Gnurdux: very well could be .. but check the BTS for something similar |
| 21:24.04 | Nei | nvz, I need a way to use my input device as a mouse replacement, preferably in console and x11 |
| 21:24.23 | abrotman | good way to get nintendo thumb |
| 21:24.37 | nvz | jetscreamer: yeah I got that part about using it as a mouse.. I dont know much about that.. but I figured it was a calibration or sensitivity issue.. seemed it was paritally working |
| 21:24.41 | jetscreamer | my joystick has it's own kernel module... so do some others... does yours though |
| 21:24.53 | nvz | Nei, in X you have the option of using the keyboard for a pointer, though its not really ideal |
| 21:25.02 | jonas3 | http://u.s.a.istheshit.net/ |
| 21:25.20 | Gnurdux | abrotman, the fontpath bug is there, but not the identd one |
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| 21:25.28 | Nei | jetscreamer, it is just using a default joystick module |
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| 21:25.51 | Nei | nvz, yes thanks for the suggestion, but it is really hard to use for me |
| 21:25.51 | jetscreamer | Nei: there are other modules in the kernel for joysticks |
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| 21:26.04 | jetscreamer | brand specific |
| 21:26.19 | Nei | jetscreamer, yes but why would it matter.. I trust that debian loaded the right one. and there wouldnt be one for my device |
| 21:26.27 | nvz | abrotman: nintendo thumb? I've never encountered that condition. and my father lost much sleep over NES games like Mario 3, Ren& Stimpy..etc he managed to master Mario 3 knowing how to beat all the side games like the card matching..etc |
| 21:26.37 | Nei | nvz, I have some problems with my arms/hands |
| 21:26.41 | stew | jonas3: please don't paste off-topic non-sense in here |
| 21:26.43 | jetscreamer | Nei: mine never got loaded by udev/hotplug/discover or anything |
| 21:27.00 | abrotman | nvz: loss of sensation in your digits .. i believe it can happen to people on keyboards too |
| 21:27.01 | Nei | nvz, that's why I require some special/custom input devices |
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| 21:27.15 | Hoxzer | :( runkkaatte vaan täällä kun jollakin on paha olla |
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| 21:27.28 | jetscreamer | you donmt say |
| 21:27.29 | nvz | Nei, yeah we all do.. sometimes I wonder if its really a problem with our limbs or if we just expect them to do things they werent designed to do. |
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| 21:27.30 | stew | Hoxzer: english only in here, please |
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| 21:28.05 | Nei | nvz, well mine weren't designed quite like those of most other people ;) |
| 21:28.06 | nvz | I've been causing myself a lot of wrist and arm pain latly working through the night and morning hours on my pc.. |
| 21:28.16 | jonas3 | stew, ok |
| 21:28.26 | Gnurdux | Mikey:/home/gnurdux# Xvnc :1 -inetd |
| 21:28.26 | Gnurdux | Mikey:/home/gnurdux# |
| 21:28.34 | Gnurdux | abrotman, isn't that wierd? |
| 21:29.19 | nvz | I think its funny they are called digits... they were some of the first means of mesurment and calculation after all. |
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| 21:29.45 | abrotman | Gnurdux: is it running? .. check the process list |
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| 21:30.02 | Gnurdux | abrotman, killing Xvnc says no process kill |
| 21:30.03 | Gnurdux | ed |
| 21:30.19 | abrotman | maybe it's called something else? |
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| 21:30.46 | aliviante | hi, some italian pls? |
| 21:30.48 | Gnurdux | abrotman, no, the man page has it: "-inetd Xvnc is launched by inetd. This option causes Xvnc to redirect network input/output to stdin/stdout." |
| 21:30.58 | Daveman | Hi Nei |
| 21:31.05 | abrotman | !it |
| 21:31.05 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là. |
| 21:31.16 | dhuv | I am wondering if anybody knows how to minimize all windows in kde with a command shortcut like ctrl + m |
| 21:31.47 | abrotman | ask #kde |
| 21:31.58 | abrotman | !info skippy2 sid |
| 21:32.09 | abrotman | !info skippy sid |
| 21:32.15 | dpkg | skippy: (full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.5.1rc1-5 (sid), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 148 kB |
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| 21:32.53 | Gnurdux | abrotman, abt udeas |
| 21:32.57 | Gnurdux | *any ideas? |
| 21:33.16 | Gnurdux | heh |
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| 21:34.12 | abrotman | !qotd170 is * Gnurdux touchtypes with 2 fingers, so sometimes he gets off |
| 21:34.12 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 21:34.31 | abrotman | sorry .. couldn't resist |
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| 21:34.40 | Gnurdux | hehe, its pretty funny |
| 21:34.46 | abrotman | Gnurdux: about the inetd thing .. no .. check logs .. try in verbose mode |
| 21:34.52 | Gnurdux | good idea |
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| 21:37.06 | ttyfscker | can someone help me get my joystick to working in prboom (freedoom)?? |
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| 21:37.33 | ttyfscker | i ran the joystick calibration stuff and i have it calibrated and i know that its detected by the OS.. i enabled the joystick in prdoom but it doesnt move.. |
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| 21:41.41 | stoned | ttyfscker, I can't play doom with a joystick, never been able to. I prefer mouse/key |
| 21:42.23 | ttyfscker | i dont mean by what you prefer |
| 21:42.29 | ttyfscker | i want to at least know it works |
| 21:43.03 | stoned | I was jut making small talk, piss off |
| 21:43.06 | stoned | :/ |
| 21:43.39 | Gnurdux | abrotman, i dunno how to make it log, and verbose doesnt work |
| 21:43.46 | ttyfscker | i didnt mean it to sound like an asshole |
| 21:43.48 | abrotman | so .. vnc sucks ? |
| 21:44.00 | ttyfscker | im just needing to get it to work because im getting d2x |
| 21:44.11 | ttyfscker | and i was just using prboom to test the joystick |
| 21:44.14 | Gnurdux | lol |
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| 21:45.24 | stoned | abrotman, I did some tests, and I discovered that rdesktop is much faster than vnc. Although both have different uses. I can watch fullscreen dvd over the network PERECTLY with rdesktop, but with vnc, it has to draw each frame and it is extremely slow, so I dunno, maybe VNC has to update the entire image, whereas rdesktop only updates parts of the pic that need to be updated. VNC in my opinion sucks, but still has its uses |
| 21:45.28 | stoned | doh |
| 21:45.30 | surfdue | hello I think I have a problem im on a vps with virtuizzo and debian 3.1, i just installed direct admin, and when i do df -h all i see is tmpfs not / what do i do to fix this? |
| 21:45.31 | stoned | hes gone |
| 21:45.43 | surfdue | stoned, im sure someone else can fix it :P |
| 21:45.50 | Nei | if a program doesnt compile with gcc4, should I try 3.3 or 3.4 first? |
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| 21:46.17 | stoned | Nei, the documentation should specify which comipler it perfers |
| 21:46.33 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 21:46.34 | Nei | stoned, and if it doesnt |
| 21:46.52 | stoned | Nei, then trial and error of course. I would first try with the gcc version your kernel was comipled with |
| 21:47.07 | stoned | then work my way down |
| 21:47.28 | Nei | stoned, as I indirectly hinted, gcc4 |
| 21:47.47 | stoned | and I as directly hinted, trial and error |
| 21:50.52 | ttyfscker | so does anyone know how i set my joystick up ? jscal and jcalibration or whateve there called all detected my joystick and they calibrated fine. in /dev/ i have no js0 though.. isnt that what i should have there in order for games to work right with the joystick? |
| 21:50.57 | surfdue | can anyone help me? |
| 21:51.12 | Nei | ttyfscker, look in /dev/input/js0 |
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| 21:53.03 | ttyfscker | Nei, yes its there |
| 21:53.16 | ttyfscker | prboom should be working with it then shouldnt it? |
| 21:53.23 | ttyfscker | i enabled the joystick option in prboom |
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| 21:53.33 | ttyfscker | but the joystick doesnt respond in the game |
| 21:53.49 | robin_sz | debian and open source in general are doing there thing .. |
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| 21:54.18 | robin_sz | motion detection and camera support for the cameras around my factory. worked straight out of the box. |
| 21:54.23 | roberto | http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb Will this package install fine on Etch? |
| 21:54.30 | surfdue | how can I tell what program is using a port specifically 21 ;) |
| 21:54.43 | ktwilight | ... |
| 21:54.48 | ktwilight | ftp uses port 21 |
| 21:54.55 | robin_sz | surfdue, netstat -tupan (as root) |
| 21:54.56 | ktwilight | a quick search on port list tells ya that too |
| 21:55.24 | surfdue | inetd |
| 21:55.29 | surfdue | is running on it what do i do? |
| 21:55.33 | robin_sz | ktwilight, thats not what he asked ... its *probably* ftp .. but could be ANYTHING |
| 21:55.35 | surfdue | proftpd is blocked |
| 21:55.44 | ktwilight | oh... |
| 21:55.45 | surfdue | becuase inetd |
| 21:55.47 | ktwilight | my bad :/ |
| 21:55.53 | surfdue | do i shutdown inetd? |
| 21:56.13 | robin_sz | ummm. well, check your inetd.conf first ... |
| 21:56.34 | robin_sz | /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 21:56.55 | surfdue | k |
| 21:56.59 | ttyfscker | Nei, do i need to add the joystick device to some config file or something? |
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| 21:57.50 | robin_sz | ktwilight, you are prbably right, it probably is FTP, but you CAN get other things using ports, sometimes its nto exactly what you think, if you see what I mean |
| 21:58.00 | surfdue | fixed |
| 21:58.04 | roberto | Would it be safe to install this package on Etch? : wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb |
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| 21:58.45 | khaije1 | is it possible to uninstall packages in an organized way to revert to a simpler version of an install? |
| 21:58.54 | robin_sz | roberto, not really ... we have no clue as to what goes on in ubuntu packages, try asking on #ubuntu |
| 22:00.11 | nvz | I hate these damn forward/back buttons on this mouse. </random annoyance> |
| 22:00.47 | Nei | why dont you disable them |
| 22:00.57 | tuxedup | I am intenidn to install debian etch of a seperate machine, but the problem is it uses wireless to connect and needes the rt2500 drivers, so i would need to build them on this machine first then take them over. Would I be able to do this from just the minimal packags installed by the netinstall cd or would I need to download some of the full cd's? |
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| 22:01.07 | surfdue | now simple question where is the file that tells the machine what to start? |
| 22:01.09 | robin_sz | khaije1, tried the dpkg --get-selections / --set-selections thing? and saving them /getting them from a file? |
| 22:01.43 | robin_sz | khaije1, or try tasksel?? |
| 22:01.52 | khaije1 | robin_sz: i did some readin on dselect, but not that specifically, could you tell me what that would do? |
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| 22:02.12 | khaije1 | robin_sz: never heard of tasksel either actually :-/ |
| 22:02.18 | ktwilight | i know what you mean robin_sz :) |
| 22:02.24 | ktwilight | what do you mean khaije1 ? |
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| 22:02.28 | surfdue | and this error: setquota: Mountpoint (or device) / not found. setquota: Not all specified mountpoints are using quota. |
| 22:03.06 | rovragge | I have working flash but not working google video, youtube, blip.tv... video plays just first 3 secs, anyone recognize this bug? (Quick google search gave nothing) |
| 22:03.15 | robin_sz | khaije1, tyope this "dpkg --get-selections" and then you will SEE what it does |
| 22:03.51 | khaije1 | robin_sz: will do ty robin_sz |
| 22:03.55 | robin_sz | khaije1, dpkg --get-selections > myConfig.txt |
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| 22:05.44 | surfdue | aries:/var/log/proftpd# df -h |
| 22:05.44 | surfdue | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 22:05.44 | surfdue | tmpfs 473M 4.0K 473M 1% /dev/shm |
| 22:05.47 | surfdue | err.. |
| 22:05.48 | surfdue | sorry |
| 22:06.15 | surfdue | well since that happened... can anyone help me?mount / |
| 22:06.57 | Ex-Cyber | rovragge: what happens after the first 3 seconds? |
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| 22:09.00 | Nei | nvz, I've found a tool called qjoypad which is at least working |
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| 22:10.01 | rovragge | Ex-Cyber: playback just stops, browser still working |
| 22:10.13 | nvz | thats cool, good luck. I am working on my exams after spending the past hour debating a the answer to the last question I think I am ready to submit my work |
| 22:10.51 | Nei | cool, good luck with your exams too ^^ |
| 22:12.19 | andrownz | isn't --same-owner or -s -p tar options supposed to restaure the right user ? tar -t shows files owned by user id 1000, but while tar -xsp as root, new files are created root owned, what's wrong? |
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| 22:14.36 | nvz | Nei, I got em all right so no worries.. it only took me like two weeks to figure out the last answer though.. heh |
| 22:14.44 | Nei | wow |
| 22:14.47 | stoned | nvz, yo dog man dude homeie bro |
| 22:14.50 | Nei | thats amazing |
| 22:14.59 | Nei | what subject do you study? |
| 22:15.22 | nvz | right now I am still studying my native language and culture english literature |
| 22:15.26 | nvz | heh |
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| 22:15.36 | nvz | got to get past that before I can move on |
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| 22:15.51 | stoned | nvz, I have to register for summer 2 classes tomorrow |
| 22:16.04 | stoned | here goes another 600$ I don't have but i need to spend |
| 22:16.18 | stoned | 80.10$ per credit hour. 6 hours+ books |
| 22:16.41 | stoned | about 600$ :( I am only taking two classes, some business ethics stuff and a management course, just to bring my gpa up |
| 22:17.00 | Nei | newbie question ahead, which file do I need to write my X autostart programs in? |
| 22:17.08 | surfdue | please how can I fix this, only tmpfs is mounted. |
| 22:17.15 | nvz | yeah well my courses are just about all paid for the problem now is following through and getting them done so I can get credit for em. |
| 22:17.17 | phaedrus44 | hello...can anyone tell me the rite repository for wine and all its componenets? |
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| 22:18.30 | nvz | I can probably get a good bit of my money back turning my books in somewhere.. but I may just keep em cause I always like having reference material.. but they will probably be put to better use and get me some money back if I just sell em |
| 22:18.50 | lakcaj | Hi. I installed debian onto a ppc machine. Now, I need to put OSX back on the machine, but the install disc doesn't see the HD anymore. Do I need to use a live CD and change the filesystem? |
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| 22:19.36 | stoned | nvz, I always keep my college books, I NEVER sell them back no matter how much money I need |
| 22:20.04 | stoned | nvz, one: you never get more than 40% of the price you paid for them, plus, they are very good books and can always be used for reference |
| 22:20.21 | stoned | nvz, seccondly, they make for a nice book collection :) |
| 22:20.38 | Aim_Here | lakcaj, That's as good a way of any of solving your problem |
| 22:20.54 | lakcaj | what should I format the drive as? |
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| 22:21.07 | stoned | lakcaj, that isn't a debian problem as far as I can tell |
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| 22:21.11 | MarkH_UK | hi all |
| 22:21.11 | Aim_Here | Whatever OSX can read |
| 22:21.16 | nvz | stoned: yeah well I havent got that far yet I've been travelling around the country working and lying to people about my education the past few years.. when I really have no education. so the courses I am taking are to get me a 4.0 high school transcript so I can get into a decent college if I decide to do that later |
| 22:21.22 | MarkH_UK | How can you check logins from IP Addresses. |
| 22:21.26 | MarkH_UK | i.e. from command line |
| 22:21.41 | stoned | nvz, I, and I can gaurantee you as well |
| 22:21.42 | MarkH_UK | as in logins to unix accounts. |
| 22:21.58 | Aim_Here | Won't 'who' tell you that, MarkH_UK ? |
| 22:22.02 | stoned | nvz, probably we both know more than our professors in comp. sci. can ever tell us. |
| 22:22.03 | lakcaj | thanks stoned, you're a great help |
| 22:22.07 | MarkH_UK | not current logged in |
| 22:22.12 | MarkH_UK | ones which have logged in previously. |
| 22:22.20 | Aim_Here | Then 'last' |
| 22:22.48 | MarkH_UK | How about going back a few weeks? |
| 22:22.55 | stoned | nvz, all people want to see is a fucking degree, even if you are a shitty admin/computer guy in real life. There are some exceptions, where people test your skills and not look for a degree. Exact reason why I am hurrying my ass to get my bachelors done so I can at least score a better job |
| 22:22.57 | MarkH_UK | as opposed to a few of the "last" logins? |
| 22:23.03 | Aim_Here | or perhaps look at /var/log/auth.log.*? |
| 22:23.04 | Nei | is /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ a good place to put autostarts? |
| 22:23.08 | nvz | stoned: so far I am doing great. I havent missed one point in liturature yet and I only missed 1 question on 7 exams for consumer skills..on the bundgeting your money exam.. heh |
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| 22:23.22 | lurker99 | might try man last, man who, man w |
| 22:23.28 | surfdue | why when exim is installed it unistalls sendmail |
| 22:23.28 | surfdue | :| |
| 22:23.30 | stoned | lakcaj, you join a Debian GNU/Linux support channel asking for help on how to install OSX. I rest my case. |
| 22:23.51 | lurker99 | only need 1 mta. :-0 |
| 22:23.51 | surfdue | oh |
| 22:23.52 | stoned | nvz, good luck man, I hope everything works out soon enough for ya |
| 22:24.40 | nvz | stoned: yeah well I have no education at all.. if you called my high school they would probably tell you they dont know what you are talking about.. now if I called and threatened them they would tell the truth and make up a transcript but they wouldnt give me any credit.. cause they already torched my records.. they apperently do so for bad statistics so they can be more elegable for govt... |
| 22:24.42 | nvz | ...awards and grants |
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| 22:25.14 | stoned | nvz, I also have a GED, I never graduated highschool, I dropped out in my JR. year, doing massloads of drugs and sex |
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| 22:25.36 | stoned | nvz, do DO have at least a GED right? |
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| 22:25.42 | foo | Anyone in here really comfortable with xgl on both nvidia and ati and want to help out an open source project? |
| 22:25.49 | stoned | s/do/you |
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| 22:27.03 | stoned | nvz, but, right now I've got 50+~ credits and a 3.244 cumulative GPA. :D all I do know is toke :D |
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| 22:27.21 | nvz | stoned: no, I went to take it but they said I had to wait until my class graduated so I just found a job and didnt ever think about it again untill I enrolled back in school. what I am doing now will get me a diploma and a real transcript.. not to mention it refreshes my memory on everything now that I am actually doing the work its moving along quite quickly |
| 22:28.04 | stoned | nvz, how many states have you hoppped in the past 4 years |
| 22:28.12 | Nei | someone happens to have an e17 repository for etch handy? |
| 22:28.26 | nvz | stoned: ged wouldnt give me full academic credit.. this will make it look like I graduated with full academic honors including foreign language |
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| 22:28.49 | MarkH_UK | found it in a .gz authlog |
| 22:28.51 | MarkH_UK | cheers all |
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| 22:28.52 | MarkH_UK | :) |
| 22:29.02 | stoned | Nei, you can just untar it into your ~/public_html/somewhere |
| 22:29.10 | stoned | Nei, I don't know if it is packaged |
| 22:29.14 | stoned | !info e17 |
| 22:29.14 | nvz | stoned: well I've lived in mostly PA, WV, or TX my whole life.. hopping back and forth between those |
| 22:29.39 | stoned | nvz, I've only gone through Louisiana, last time you were around I think in TX, and now I am in Oklahoma City |
| 22:29.49 | nvz | stoned: I've gone from PA to WV to TX to WV to PA and back to WV at least in the past 4 years |
| 22:30.09 | stoned | nvz, wow, I've only gone from Baton Rouge to OKC in 4 years |
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| 22:30.29 | Hoxzer | http://pastebin.ca/79968 < - whats up with those "PCI interrupt"'s ? |
| 22:31.04 | nvz | yeah well if I had more financial stability I would travel a lot more and to more places |
| 22:31.11 | stoned | Nei, e17 is not packaged in debian, afaik, search google or just use the tarball from the e17 site |
| 22:31.41 | abrotman | !e17 |
| 22:31.42 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 22:32.07 | stoned | abrotman, hi |
| 22:32.15 | abrotman | hey |
| 22:32.15 | nvz | its a PITA trying to establish financial stability when you move around.. there doesnt seem to be any one bank that is recognised further than like 100miles or so |
| 22:32.24 | abrotman | Hoxzer: obviuosly 'crash override' is using your system |
| 22:32.40 | nvz | my credit cards go with me everywhere but ever 50-100miles I gotta get a new bank |
| 22:32.46 | phaedrus44 | has anyone installed wine? |
| 22:32.49 | abrotman | stoned: it's good! |
| 22:32.52 | phaedrus44 | i mean in here? |
| 22:32.54 | abrotman | phaedrus44: ask a better question |
| 22:32.57 | phaedrus44 | ok |
| 22:33.02 | Nei | yes it's not yet finshed |
| 22:33.07 | stoned | abrotman, yes, I can't believe I heard it all my childhood and never remmebered it |
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| 22:33.11 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:33.31 | stoned | !anyone phaedrus44 |
| 22:33.39 | stoned | heh :) |
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| 22:34.16 | stoned | I am running an xbox 360 game under cedega, works perfectly, no slowdowns at all, its for the PC too, but highly graphic intensive game. Painkiller |
| 22:34.31 | phaedrus44 | uh..i have been trying to install wine....using updated repos and trying to get all the dependencies...it has become a nightmare...i was wondering if anyone had any advice for me to install...i have too many unmet dependencies and when i try to install with apt-get the repos report what i need but they cannot be installed....nbah |
| 22:34.34 | stoned | Wine although, bitches about no cd in drive |
| 22:34.55 | abrotman | phaedrus44: apt-get -f install |
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| 22:36.20 | phaedrus44 | ive done that quite a few tmie abrotman...but i will try that again from the beginning |
| 22:36.22 | phaedrus44 | thank you |
| 22:36.30 | abrotman | phaedrus44: if that doesn't work .. paste the error |
| 22:36.34 | phaedrus44 | ok |
| 22:36.38 | phaedrus44 | thanks |
| 22:36.44 | Aim_Here | stoned, that's because Wine doesn't implement or work around no copy protection |
| 22:36.51 | stoned | Aim_Here, yes, I know :) |
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| 22:37.11 | surfdue | hello there |
| 22:37.13 | stoned | hi |
| 22:37.16 | surfdue | I have a problem vzfs 100G 599M 100G 1% / |
| 22:37.26 | surfdue | how do I make an alises for vzfs to . |
| 22:37.29 | surfdue | */ |
| 22:37.31 | abrotman | what's wrong with that? |
| 22:37.42 | phaedrus44 | stoned do you still have the repository from installing wine ? |
| 22:37.54 | stoned | phaedrus44, which debian release are you on |
| 22:37.55 | stoned | !info wine |
| 22:38.02 | dpkg | wine: (Windows API Implementation (Binary Loader)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.9.15-1 (sid), Packaged size: 940 kB, Installed size: 4768 kB |
| 22:38.16 | Hoxzer | I'M SICK |
| 22:38.23 | surfdue | this dosnt look right http://pastebin.ca/79974 |
| 22:38.23 | Hoxzer | "no you're not" |
| 22:38.25 | Hoxzer | ok, thx |
| 22:38.26 | phaedrus44 | uh...deb 3.1 ? ] |
| 22:38.29 | phaedrus44 | 3.1 |
| 22:38.35 | phaedrus44 | 2.6.8 |
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| 22:38.38 | phaedrus44 | kernel |
| 22:39.03 | stoned | phaedrus44, afaik you don't have to add anything else. Just keep main + contrib + non-free and apt-get install wine |
| 22:39.29 | phaedrus44 | stoned: is that version like a year old? |
| 22:39.33 | phaedrus44 | or new? |
| 22:39.42 | stoned | phaedrus44, 3.1 is sarge, so its frozen last year |
| 22:40.08 | surfdue | so |
| 22:40.08 | Hoxzer | abrotman: wanna tell me more about this "crash overwrite" |
| 22:40.09 | surfdue | :| |
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| 22:40.10 | surfdue | anyone? |
| 22:40.17 | phaedrus44 | damn. anyway to get a newer version on this deb install? |
| 22:40.27 | Hoxzer | abrotman: does that dmesg explain why doesn't my dvb card work? |
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| 22:40.32 | stoned | !tell phaedrus44 -about backports |
| 22:40.34 | abrotman | Hoxzer: it was a joke .. check imdb for the character list of Hackers |
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| 22:40.53 | Hoxzer | :D |
| 22:40.55 | stoned | !tell phaedrus44 -about simple-sid-backport |
| 22:41.04 | stoned | argh |
| 22:41.06 | Hoxzer | geez I hate my self |
| 22:41.11 | stoned | !tell phaedrus44 -about simple sid backport |
| 22:41.44 | stoned | phaedrus44, or if you are feeling daring, you can upgrade to etch, but if you are not familiar with debian enough, I do not recoomend anything but Sarge/Stable |
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| 22:42.37 | wireddd | how would I go about setting up a debian system on a pc to act like a wyse dummy terminal? ie use a serial port to connect to a unix server? |
| 22:44.41 | abrotman | wireddd: tldp.org should have a serial console howto |
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| 22:46.54 | wireddd | I am really just trying to turn a pc into a terminal emulator using the serial port. I am just not sure how to go about it |
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| 22:48.23 | surfdue | this dosnt look right http://pastebin.ca/79974 |
| 22:48.26 | surfdue | can anyonehelp me |
| 22:48.33 | surfdue | aparently everything is saying / dosnt exist |
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| 22:49.10 | roym | wiredd: have you looked at the Linux Serial HOWTO? |
| 22:49.32 | abrotman | wireddd: didn't i just tell you to google for the serial howto? |
| 22:49.47 | abrotman | erm .. serial console howto |
| 22:49.57 | abrotman | surfdue: cat /etc/mtab |
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| 22:50.24 | surfdue | http://pastebin.ca/79983 |
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| 22:50.35 | abrotman | he's been hiding! |
| 22:50.47 | abrotman | surfdue: now you have a /! |
| 22:50.58 | surfdue | what do you mean? |
| 22:51.06 | Jenkens | Hi. I removed a service I want to put back in, using update-rc.d service remove .. but I've forgotten what start and stop numbers they were at... is there any way to tell what SXX and KXX they were initially at before removal? |
| 22:51.24 | abrotman | what was it? |
| 22:51.25 | surfdue | abrotman, all my applications dont notice the filysystem / becuase its vzfs |
| 22:51.38 | surfdue | abrotman, how can I put an aliases on vzfs as regular / |
| 22:51.39 | abrotman | nfc was vzfs is |
| 22:51.51 | surfdue | abrotman, its a vps |
| 22:51.53 | surfdue | virtuizzo |
| 22:52.09 | abrotman | eh .. whatever that means |
| 22:53.47 | surfdue | abrotman, is there a way to make the filesystem vzfs / ? |
| 22:53.59 | abrotman | i've never used vzfs |
| 22:55.21 | surfdue | virtual file system |
| 22:55.21 | surfdue | i think |
| 22:55.38 | wireddd | abrotman everything I can find is about how to setup a linux system to act as a terminal server |
| 22:55.50 | wireddd | which is not what I want to do at all |
| 22:56.09 | abrotman | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+serial+console+howto&btnG=Google+Search |
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| 23:01.49 | Hoxzer | can I install testing kernel to the stable system? |
| 23:02.19 | stew | Hoxzer: /msg dpkg stable 2.6.16 |
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| 23:03.20 | wireddd | abrotman so I should just use minicom? |
| 23:03.43 | abrotman | hi |
| 23:03.52 | abrotman | wireddd: depends what kind of console you want |
| 23:04.11 | nvz | I cant figure out how to tell compared to USD how much 1 million yen was in 2001 :P |
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| 23:05.18 | abrotman | wireddd: you can make it like a real console that works on boot |
| 23:05.44 | max_m | what's the canonical linux utility for snmp walking, etc? |
| 23:05.44 | nvz | I'm thinking about USD$300,000 but not sure |
| 23:05.50 | max_m | dpkg snmp |
| 23:05.50 | dpkg | hmm... snmp is the Stupid Network Mangling Protocol. or really the Simple Network Management Protocol |
| 23:06.40 | wireddd | I am litterally replacing a wyse terminal which is serially connected to a unix server with a linux system, and that is all it is going to ever do. |
| 23:07.12 | max_m | wireddd: then why replace it |
| 23:07.27 | phaedrus44 | how do i copy from the console window? |
| 23:07.38 | sng | As opposed to figuratively replacing a wyse terminal? |
| 23:07.50 | stew | phaedrus44: use gpm or screen |
| 23:08.01 | phaedrus44 | what are those? |
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| 23:08.09 | phaedrus44 | sorry |
| 23:08.13 | stew | phaedrus44: /msg dpkg gpm ; /msg dpkg screen |
| 23:08.35 | tnks | Hi. Is it possible for a package to intentionally install a broken symlink? |
| 23:08.53 | stew | tnks: yes |
| 23:09.06 | tnks | stew: what's the method? |
| 23:09.16 | tnks | does ln have a switch to do that? |
| 23:09.22 | stew | tnks: use dh_link |
| 23:09.31 | tnks | tnks: oh... I see. |
| 23:09.36 | tnks | cool. |
| 23:09.37 | tnks | thanks. |
| 23:09.58 | stew | tnks: i hope you have a good reason too though... |
| 23:09.58 | Jenkens | I know this is a repeat but I'm not having any luck finding it. -- Hi. I removed a service I want to put back in, using update-rc.d service remove .. but I've forgotten what start and stop numbers they were at... is there any way to tell what SXX and KXX they were initially at before removal? |
| 23:10.07 | stew | ^too^to |
| 23:10.11 | max_m | Jenkens: sure there is |
| 23:10.17 | max_m | Jenkens: you can go into ... hold on |
| 23:10.21 | Jenkens | max_m: alright :) |
| 23:10.24 | Nei | why does apt(itude) want to "update" e 0.16.999 to 0.16.7 ? |
| 23:10.35 | stew | Jenkens: you could look at the .postinst in /var/lib/dpkg/info and see where it was originally installed |
| 23:10.40 | max_m | Jenkens: read the package's scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 23:10.52 | max_m | Jenkens: and fgrep -i the files for update-rc.d |
| 23:11.01 | stew | Nei: can you put the output of "apt-cache policy packagename" into a pastebin? |
| 23:11.04 | Jenkens | fgrep? |
| 23:11.28 | Jenkens | i'm familiar with grep, just not fgrep? same thing? |
| 23:11.48 | max_m | Jenkens: it doesn't use regex like regular grep |
| 23:12.05 | max_m | Jenkens: handy if you happen to be grepping for the literal version of something with the tokens in it |
| 23:12.16 | max_m | Jenkens: like maybe you want to grep for lines with plus sign in them |
| 23:12.35 | max_m | Jenkens: egrep is grep with extra regexes on that are usually off |
| 23:12.46 | max_m | Jenkens: another small traditional shortcut |
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| 23:13.08 | Jenkens | hrm |
| 23:13.09 | Jenkens | ok |
| 23:13.15 | Nei | http://rafb.net/paste/results/06GiAr77.html |
| 23:13.25 | Nei | stew, (-^) |
| 23:13.26 | Jenkens | so when i'm in /var/lib/dpkg/info i want to grep for my service name? |
| 23:13.41 | max_m | Jenkens: not quite |
| 23:13.54 | max_m | Jenkens: first off find the scripts which are sorted by package name |
| 23:14.23 | max_m | Jenkens: then grep em for update-rc.d to see what they are doing to your daemons during install process |
| 23:14.46 | max_m | Jenkens: fgrep -ir 'update-rc.d' packagename.* should work |
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| 23:15.26 | Jenkens | max_m: perfect! thanks |
| 23:16.04 | Jenkens | :) |
| 23:16.04 | surfdue | please help me its very urgent, problem with quota and mounted filesystems: http://pastebin.ca/79998 im on debian 3.1, virtuizzo vps, directadmin, 2.6.8 kernel |
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| 23:19.15 | libertad0 | hi all |
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| 23:19.43 | libertad0 | I need know wich /dev/tty* is my usb cellular conect it |
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| 23:21.08 | jake1932 | just got a brand new machine and set up RAID 1. Debian netinst sees the 2 drives as JBOD though. Any ideas? |
| 23:22.15 | abrotman | not real raid? |
| 23:22.50 | jake1932 | fake raid? |
| 23:22.59 | jake1932 | how is that possible? |
| 23:23.08 | abrotman | not my card .. no idea |
| 23:23.11 | abrotman | it's SATA? |
| 23:23.15 | jake1932 | yes |
| 23:23.15 | abrotman | which controller? |
| 23:23.27 | jake1932 | it's on the MB sis.com ctrlr |
| 23:23.53 | abrotman | need the chipset |
| 23:23.57 | jake1932 | ok |
| 23:24.24 | jake1932 | looks like 964 |
| 23:24.29 | jake1932 | lemme check google |
| 23:24.53 | abrotman | http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#sis |
| 23:25.11 | Daveman | heh |
| 23:25.15 | jake1932 | haha |
| 23:25.18 | jake1932 | how bout that |
| 23:25.24 | abrotman | what? |
| 23:25.30 | Hoxzer | where is module blacklist located? |
| 23:25.33 | jake1932 | it says fakeraid. |
| 23:25.35 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 23:25.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 23:26.03 | libertad0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.05 | libertad0 | please help |
| 23:26.17 | libertad0 | I need conect my usb cellular to the /dev/tty* ? |
| 23:26.40 | surfdue | I manually changed /etc/fstab and restarted here is what I get http://pastebin.ca/80012 |
| 23:26.42 | libertad0 | I'nt know wich is my /dev/tty* |
| 23:26.44 | libertad0 | Someone |
| 23:26.46 | surfdue | Nothing changed in dh-f why? |
| 23:26.46 | libertad0 | ? |
| 23:28.46 | stew | Nei: the 0.16.7 version introduces a new epoch (the 1: at the beginning of the version) and therefore is newer |
| 23:30.10 | nima | how can i see all removed packages that i still have config files for?? |
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| 23:30.35 | abrotman | dpkg -l | grep ^rc |
| 23:30.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep ^rc |
| 23:31.32 | nima | thanks :-P |
| 23:32.06 | Timtow | what's a good ftp client for X11? |
| 23:32.10 | nima | any way to get rid of all of them easily? |
| 23:32.34 | kreg_work | what is /etc/rcS.d for? |
| 23:33.13 | eastwood | Timtow, kftpgrabber |
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| 23:33.52 | Vasistha | kreg_work: it's for "Startup" -- the services that are started before going into any of the runlevels 1-5 |
| 23:33.54 | gravity | Timtow: I like gftp |
| 23:34.01 | lelu | hai, anyone able to help me set up eggdrop on debian? or show me to an online tutorial? |
| 23:35.12 | jplibre | lelu: emmm for what purpose? |
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| 23:35.32 | kreg_work | Vasistha, that's what the docs says, but i changed symlinks in there from S to K, and the servers still started |
| 23:35.44 | jplibre | thing with eggdrop bots and the like - if you have to ask for help it's probably not wise to run one. |
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| 23:36.16 | Vasistha | kreg_work: erm... rather than changing from S to K, better to change to "ns" or something |
| 23:36.30 | Vasistha | kreg_work: or better yet, use update-rc.d |
| 23:36.52 | kreg_work | hmm |
| 23:37.04 | kreg_work | i thought update-rc.d was when you add one. not sure i would konw how to use it for that |
| 23:37.21 | Vasistha | kreg_work: read the manpage... you can figure it out, it's not too difficult |
| 23:37.28 | kreg_work | sounds good, thanks |
| 23:37.35 | Vasistha | you're welcome |
| 23:37.51 | Hoxzer | stew: :D ofcourse nvidia install doesn't work with that 2.6.16 just great. |
| 23:38.04 | cusco | dudes |
| 23:38.08 | Hoxzer | hey dood |
| 23:38.17 | cusco | how do I attach a file whe emailing someone with mailx |
| 23:40.01 | libertad0 | hi |
| 23:40.10 | libertad0 | please, where is my dev usb celular |
| 23:40.13 | libertad0 | cellular |
| 23:40.21 | libertad0 | How I can know that? |
| 23:40.27 | libertad0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.34 | abrotman | -v isn't needed really |
| 23:40.44 | libertad0 | ok, then? |
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| 23:43.09 | nvz | hmm I am attempting to d/l wikipedia just to see if I can somehow mirror it at home. :P |
| 23:43.22 | abrotman | dude ... |
| 23:43.27 | lelu | :| |
| 23:43.27 | abrotman | ask #wikipedia :) |
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| 23:44.24 | Vasistha | nvz: you should probably find out how big it is before you do that, and if they have mirroring policies... ask #wikipedia |
| 23:44.28 | nvz | oh, I found the enwiki-pages-articles.xml.bz2 already and I am d/l it their server is very fast |
| 23:44.38 | Timtow | gravity how do you use gftp? I got it but it's not downloading anything, gives me the error: could not create directory or something |
| 23:44.45 | kreg_work | Vasistha, if i change /etc/rcS.d/Sxxportmap to Kxxportmap, can i safely leave alone /etc/rc2.d/Sxxportmap ? |
| 23:44.47 | Nei | stew, how do I force my opinion about this on apt, or do I have to rtfm? |
| 23:44.55 | nvz | said that is all the article texts without history |
| 23:44.56 | Vasistha | nvz: heh, how big is it, out of curiousity? |
| 23:45.08 | kreg_work | Vasistha, i'm trying to leave the runlevel configs alone, and still turn off services globally. |
| 23:45.21 | Vasistha | kreg_work: I don't think that will have the effect you want. |
| 23:45.26 | nvz | Vasistha: only 1.3gb which got me puzzled.. but apperently its the images and article history that takes up the other 30 or so GB |
| 23:45.36 | kreg_work | Vasistha, i guess i don't understand what you mean by "ns" |
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| 23:45.48 | Vasistha | kreg_work: again, I say, you should use update-rc.d ... what you're proposing will first try to kill it, *then* start it up |
| 23:46.12 | gravity | Timtow: I don't know that error... it's always been pretty simple for me |
| 23:46.56 | Vasistha | kreg_work: how it works is this: first it goes into /etc/rcS.d and runs all those. When that is done, it goes to the runlevel specified in ... erm... |
| 23:47.42 | kreg_work | Vasistha, ok |
| 23:48.11 | Vasistha | kreg_work: anyway, your runlevel is specified in some config file, I forget which ... so then it goes to, e.g., rc2.d and runs all those |
| 23:48.15 | S0UL_0F_R00T | somebody can tell me what pots TCP/UDP i have to enable to permit the access over fivewall/natd to debian machines inside network pass to debian repositories? thank´s i just triing it for two dais and i don´t know the access has blocked ? |
| 23:48.18 | heh_v_water | something interesting I did these last couple days someone might want the idea to play with.. I have been installing debian in vmware using as little space as possible then using bootcd in the vmware to create an iso image for live cd and downloading the iso from the virtual machine and building cd's neat way to mess with it I thought |
| 23:48.38 | Vasistha | kreg_work: ...and it goes in alphabetical order, as echo K* S* would |
| 23:48.57 | Timtow | the sudo group is wheel, correct? |
| 23:48.57 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: outgoing port 21 or 80 |
| 23:49.18 | Timtow | gravity: it was a permission thing..had to run it as su |
| 23:49.25 | Vasistha | kreg_work: oh, runlevel is specified in /etc/inittab |
| 23:49.37 | gravity | ok |
| 23:49.56 | S0UL_0F_R00T | epsilon this ports has already open and cannot connect.. |
| 23:51.15 | nvz | S0UL_0F_R00T: you shouldnt need to forward ports through a nat to access debian repositories. |
| 23:51.20 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: is nat/pat working properly? |
| 23:51.37 | S0UL_0F_R00T | yeah |
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| 23:52.00 | epsilon | can you ping/telnet any (web)server in internet? |
| 23:52.10 | S0UL_0F_R00T | yes |
| 23:52.33 | epsilon | telnet <your debian mirror> 80 or 21 working too? |
| 23:52.54 | S0UL_0F_R00T | epsilon> i am already talking to you over natd/firewall |
| 23:52.55 | eastwood | Timtow, you can install packges in the system tree if you're not root |
| 23:52.55 | eastwood | cant* |
| 23:52.55 | eastwood | get to root or open a directly root console |
| 23:52.56 | eastwood | and install the pkg |
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| 23:53.32 | Timtow | I'm not trying to install packages, but download from my ftp serer |
| 23:53.34 | Timtow | server |
| 23:53.35 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: what's the error message of apt while fecthing the file? |
| 23:53.39 | Timtow | I got it though, thanks |
| 23:53.55 | eastwood | i thought you wanted a fto client.. |
| 23:54.17 | S0UL_0F_R00T | epsilon> the timeout connecting ? |
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| 23:54.49 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: can you use webbrowser to load the page? |
| 23:55.00 | Timtow | I got gftp, was having an error with it trying to create directories when I ran it as not root |
| 23:55.12 | S0UL_0F_R00T | epsilon> i have try various repositories... |
| 23:55.36 | S0UL_0F_R00T | epsilon> all other services works fine |
| 23:55.45 | eastwood | hmmm |
| 23:56.07 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: which source are you using, post sourcs.list somewhere |
| 23:56.16 | epsilon | +e |
| 23:56.21 | S0UL_0F_R00T | only debian clients for aptutude, apt-get are with problems. |
| 23:56.24 | Jenkens | is there a particular way to tell which package a file comes from (that may not be installed)? |
| 23:56.59 | abrotman | S0UL_0F_R00T: if you're using http .. port 80 .. ftp .. port 21 |
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| 23:57.21 | S0UL_0F_R00T | yes this already.. |
| 23:57.23 | eastwood | i dont use gftp |
| 23:57.23 | eastwood | its quite weak in features compared to kftpgrabber |
| 23:57.36 | Vasistha | Jenkens: yeah, there is definitely a way, although I can never remember :P someone in here ought to know. There's a simple command. I think there's a factoid on it, too |
| 23:57.55 | stoned | how can I password protect a certain folder/s on my /home. I have sometimes friends using my computer and I don't want them to access my confidential data, however I cannot use file permissions for this, since I am the owner of the file. |
| 23:58.02 | stoned | I can't seem to find a software for this |
| 23:58.14 | S0UL_0F_R00T | abrotman> all services are running fine |
| 23:58.28 | eastwood | stoned, .htaccess |
| 23:58.32 | nvz | stoned: give them their own user ffs |
| 23:58.40 | S0UL_0F_R00T | abrotman> the problem is only with aptitude/apt-get |
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| 23:58.53 | abrotman | right |
| 23:59.18 | stoned | nvz, umm |
| 23:59.19 | stew | Nei: man apt_preferences |
| 23:59.31 | epsilon | S0UL_0F_R00T: if you don't provide more information, we can't help you |
| 23:59.39 | stoned | no |
| 23:59.48 | S0UL_0F_R00T | why you need my friend |
| 23:59.53 | Vasistha | stoned: I'd say the best way to do that is to have two users. Another way is to have an encrypted partition, but I think that's overkill. Another simple solution is to have a partition that only root can mount from a command line |
| 23:59.57 | S0UL_0F_R00T | sorry ? |
| 23:59.59 | surfdue | hey anyone have a GOOD sources.list |
