| 00:00.08 | lunitik | cds: just make sure resolv.conf is pointing to the DHCP server... |
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| 00:00.35 | Dwonis | cds: probably. If not, take a look at the "hwaddress" directive for interfaces. e.g. "hwaddress ether be:d2:e3:0c:42:fa" |
| 00:01.00 | cds | dmc: Wheres' that? |
| 00:01.09 | cds | lunitik: Seems it's using the wrong network interface. |
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| 00:01.19 | cds | Dwonis: Where's that (oops) |
| 00:01.23 | cds | ? |
| 00:01.36 | Dwonis | cds: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:01.37 | Edwin_Quijada | how can i change my dns temporary |
| 00:01.37 | SerajewelKS | 3.1_r1 is etch, correct? |
| 00:01.49 | Edwin_Quijada | no interface |
| 00:01.53 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: no |
| 00:02.03 | Dwonis | SerajewelKS: heh. "back in the day", I would download the things I needed in Windows to a FAT filesystem, then boot a CD and compile a new kernel from there. :) |
| 00:02.06 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: Sarge second revision |
| 00:02.19 | SerajewelKS | blargh |
| 00:02.28 | SerajewelKS | is there a set for testing somewhere? |
| 00:02.34 | SerajewelKS | it doesn't need to be recent, it just needs to use 2.6.15 |
| 00:02.37 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 00:02.41 | cds | Dwonis: Yes.. but how do I get the right interface number? |
| 00:02.48 | SerajewelKS | because i can't find them |
| 00:03.12 | SerajewelKS | no nevermind |
| 00:03.13 | SerajewelKS | i'm blind |
| 00:03.15 | cds | Dwonis: eth0 is my mobo's on-board interface, which I don't want. |
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| 00:03.24 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: first result for 'debian-installer etch' via google :/ |
| 00:04.05 | Edwin_Quijada | SerajewelKS: u can install sarge and move it to etch after |
| 00:04.05 | SerajewelKS | lunitik: i burrowed into d.o and found http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 00:04.27 | SerajewelKS | Edwin_Quijada: except that his SATA controller isn't supported in 2.6.8 |
| 00:04.29 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: that'd likely work too.... |
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| 00:06.03 | Edwin_Quijada | SerajewelKS: Yes, it is |
| 00:06.18 | Edwin_Quijada | my HD is sata and I installed that way |
| 00:06.30 | Edwin_Quijada | without problem |
| 00:06.48 | Edwin_Quijada | install kernel 2.6 in sarge |
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| 00:07.24 | Edwin_Quijada | how can i add a new dns but not in interfaces |
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| 00:08.14 | asg | Edwin_Quijada: edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:08.31 | Dwonis | how the heck did my / manage to get permissions 0700 |
| 00:08.45 | asg | Dwonis: history | grep chmod |
| 00:08.50 | cds | There - fixed. |
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| 00:09.05 | Dwonis | asg: smartass. if only it were that simple |
| 00:09.08 | lunitik | cds: yay... now back to soundcard :) |
| 00:09.17 | icmp | hi, how are the debian releases ordered? |
| 00:09.21 | cds | Disabling the mobo ethernet did it ;) |
| 00:09.27 | cds | lunitik: Right.. run xine again? |
| 00:09.36 | asg | Dwonis: in many cases it is. User error is quite often the problem. |
| 00:09.47 | Edwin_Quijada | asg just add it and dont run anything else |
| 00:09.48 | lunitik | icmp: umm... sarge etch sid from oldest to newest? |
| 00:09.49 | Edwin_Quijada | ? |
| 00:09.56 | icmp | in this email it says 1.5.9-2sarge2 but I run Debian-8.sarge.4 |
| 00:10.06 | Dwonis | asg: I suppose you're right. |
| 00:10.08 | lunitik | cds: lsmod | grep emu10k first |
| 00:10.21 | asg | Edwin_Quijada: to add a nameserver, just put a 'nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' line in /etc/resolv.conf. |
| 00:10.35 | Edwin_Quijada | asg: thaks!! |
| 00:10.36 | asg | Dwonis: preferrably, you'd want to look at root's history |
| 00:10.42 | Stevie-O | I'm going to create a hostname xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and resolve it to 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:10.52 | asg | Stevie-O: better yet, ping 0xDEADBEEF |
| 00:10.56 | Edwin_Quijada | how can i mount my usb memory by console? |
| 00:11.03 | asg | Edwin_Quijada: /msg dpkg usb storage |
| 00:11.14 | icmp | never mind, I see - silly me |
| 00:11.14 | cds | lunitik: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WPc3I465.html |
| 00:11.19 | Stevie-O | rofl |
| 00:11.20 | Stevie-O | what the hell |
| 00:11.21 | Dwonis | asg: It's probably something I did with rsync... somewhere... I've been tossing my filesystems back and forth recently |
| 00:11.28 | Edwin_Quijada | asg: what does mean? |
| 00:11.32 | asg | Dwonis: ah |
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| 00:11.41 | Stevie-O | what hostname did that resolve under? |
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| 00:11.53 | asg | Edwin_Quijada: type '/msg dpkg usb storage' in your irc client and our bot will give you instructions |
| 00:12.18 | streuner | !usb storage |
| 00:12.19 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 00:12.21 | Edwin_Quijada | asg: Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!! I didtn know |
| 00:12.21 | beardy | in another window |
| 00:12.27 | lunitik | cds: cool... then yeah... check if xine is working now... note if its an mp3 ... you need libxine-extracodecs installed (this will install libmad0 and libxine-main0) |
| 00:12.30 | asg | Stevie-O: it's some chinese ISP block. For real fun, remove the first '2' from the '222.' and do whois (i.e., whois 22.173.190.239) |
| 00:13.01 | sparr | can any linux media player play kvcd's from a bin/cue pair? from an iso? from a mounted iso? |
| 00:13.13 | Stevie-O | I got 219, not 222 |
| 00:13.21 | cds | lunitik: Nope. |
| 00:13.24 | cds | lunitik: ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory |
| 00:13.36 | asg | Stevie-O: oh, you got a ttl timeout from the last hop router |
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| 00:13.44 | lunitik | cds: ahh... its not even supposed to be using oss anymore :| |
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| 00:13.53 | asg | Stevie-O: the dns resolution for 0xDEADBEEF is 222.173.190.239 |
| 00:13.56 | beardy | sparr: I think mplayer can play from bin directly. |
| 00:13.57 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 00:13.57 | cds | lunitik: What is OSS? |
| 00:13.58 | Stevie-O | Reply from 219.146.113.214: TTL expired in transit. |
| 00:14.02 | lunitik | cds: also, are you using any sound server? |
| 00:14.02 | cds | lunitik: Hwo do I change it? |
| 00:14.03 | Stevie-O | yeah |
| 00:14.03 | asg | !oss |
| 00:14.03 | dpkg | oss is probably an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 00:14.07 | cds | lunitik: No idea. |
| 00:14.09 | stew | asg: its not dns resolution, however |
| 00:14.25 | asg | stew: not the ttl expiration but the 222.x address was resolved |
| 00:14.29 | Stevie-O | yeah |
| 00:14.30 | Stevie-O | I see now |
| 00:14.40 | stew | asg: no, it wasn't resolved, 0xdeadbeef is an ip addresss |
| 00:15.01 | asg | stew: that's what I said |
| 00:15.12 | beardy | sparr: And if you mount it, it's just a filesystem, and as long as you can read it, any player capable of playing the files, should be able to. |
| 00:15.14 | lunitik | cds: you have a desktop installed right now? |
| 00:15.20 | stew | asg: you said dns resolution, and dns isn't involved |
| 00:15.24 | lunitik | cds: what xine player are you using? |
| 00:15.31 | cds | lunitik: Yeah - icewm. |
| 00:15.41 | asg | stew: yeah, true. My mistake. |
| 00:15.44 | heh_v_water | how the heck does that resolve to anything anyhow |
| 00:15.50 | cds | lunitik: xine -v ? |
| 00:15.51 | abrotman | i wish i had pepper jack |
| 00:16.01 | stew | who's jack? |
| 00:16.09 | asg | !cheese abrotman |
| 00:16.12 | sparr | beardy: well, what player can play the files? correctly, not in single-file-chunks |
| 00:16.14 | abrotman | oh .. that'll work |
| 00:16.19 | abrotman | do it again! |
| 00:16.32 | beardy | sparr: vcd? was the k a typo? |
| 00:16.45 | Edwin_Quijada | i have a strabge problem |
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| 00:16.59 | cds | lunitik: ? |
| 00:17.02 | Edwin_Quijada | i can search using apt but i cant install any package |
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| 00:17.15 | asg | Edwin_Quijada: did you run 'apt-get update' |
| 00:17.18 | heh_v_water | I guess I mean how does this 0xDEADBEEF resolve to an ip address? gotta be something pinting it or is that a mac address? |
| 00:17.30 | Edwin_Quijada | asg i cant |
| 00:17.35 | Edwin_Quijada | i get the same error |
| 00:17.35 | abrotman | HR DERBY! |
| 00:17.36 | Dwonis | asg: damn, now I'm hungry! |
| 00:17.47 | lunitik | cds: you need to configure your xine to use ALSA or your Sound Daemon :/ |
| 00:18.06 | lunitik | cds: I don't know what xine you're using or anything, so can't help with that |
| 00:18.12 | asg | heh_v_water: start with 0xde.0xad.0xbe.0xef |
| 00:18.18 | cds | lunitik: How do I find out? |
| 00:19.02 | sparr | beardy: no, it was not. |
| 00:19.16 | cds | Hang on.. |
| 00:19.20 | cds | amarok is playing... |
| 00:19.34 | sparr | heh_v_water: an ip address is just a 32 bit number conveniently segregated into 8-bit chunks. |
| 00:19.37 | stew | heh_v_water: ip addresses are just 32 bit numbers, you are used to seeing them written as 4 decimal numbers separated by periods, but you can also write them as one 32 bit number |
| 00:19.43 | beardy | sparr: Ok, I don't know what kvcd is.. mplayer can play almost anything. |
| 00:19.48 | lunitik | cds: then your Xine works... good job... what the hell were you using that said "OSS sucks"? |
| 00:19.57 | cds | xmms :/ |
| 00:20.06 | lunitik | cds: xmms doesn't use xine |
| 00:20.10 | abrotman | xmms can use oss or alsa |
| 00:20.12 | cds | Oh. |
| 00:20.20 | heh_v_water | so that is just an IP address in hex? |
| 00:20.24 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:20.31 | stew | heh_v_water: yeah, its the same as "ping 3735928559" |
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| 00:20.48 | asg | heh_v_water: yes, I moroned the explanation earlier by introduction DNS which has no baring on the case. |
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| 00:21.00 | heh_v_water | asg, yah I knew that tho lol |
| 00:21.03 | cds | Ok, Realplayer doesn't work. |
| 00:21.11 | asg | heh_v_water: what can I say, it's been a long day |
| 00:21.29 | heh_v_water | stew, is yours using binary? |
| 00:21.36 | stew | heh_v_water: no, base 10 |
| 00:21.41 | heh_v_water | ahh |
| 00:21.47 | lunitik | cds: umm... why are you using RealPlayer? debian-multimedia.org's w32codecs supports that in kaffeine and friends |
| 00:21.50 | heh_v_water | yah binary is a bit different than that duh |
| 00:21.52 | sparr | beardy: i shall put your 'almost' to the test :) |
| 00:21.53 | cds | mplayer does, though. |
| 00:22.04 | stew | ping 0b11011110101011011011111011101111 doesn't seem to work |
| 00:22.06 | cds | lunitik: Ah, did't know of that. |
| 00:22.09 | streuner | cds: to get sound working with an emu10k1 needs about 2 minutes usually, how do you manage to ask 1 hour? |
| 00:22.10 | heh_v_water | ha! |
| 00:22.23 | beardy | sparr: Do that. :) (get all codecs before giving up) |
| 00:22.29 | heh_v_water | so does the 0b designate binary? |
| 00:22.30 | cds | streuner: I had network problems in between :) |
| 00:22.44 | streuner | cds: why? |
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| 00:22.48 | Dwonis | stew: Does that notation work with ping6? |
| 00:22.49 | lunitik | streuner: his sound is working... he just hasn't told things like realplay and xmms to use alsa |
| 00:23.02 | asg | Dwonis: not here |
| 00:23.04 | streuner | oh well |
| 00:23.04 | cds | Which I don't know how to do. |
| 00:23.06 | cds | :) |
| 00:23.10 | cds | (I'm a she, FWIW) |
| 00:23.18 | beardy | sparr: '/msg dpkg mplayer' and '/msg dpkg marillat' in case you wonder about that |
| 00:23.28 | lunitik | cds: I wouldn't worry too much about xmms, it sucks anyways |
| 00:23.40 | lunitik | cds: or realplay for that matter |
| 00:23.41 | cds | lunitik: True :) |
| 00:23.44 | stew | Dwonis: doesn't seem to |
| 00:23.52 | amphi | cds: use mplayer for everything ;) |
| 00:23.53 | cds | Well, as long as I can play realplayer files, that's all I care about. |
| 00:23.55 | Dwonis | stew: damn. It would have been so convenient! |
| 00:24.03 | sparr | mplayer vcd://track[/device] |
| 00:24.07 | lunitik | cds: just get a xine movie player and w32codecs and voila |
| 00:24.07 | sparr | what is "track"? |
| 00:24.21 | beardy | sparr: ignore or '0'? |
| 00:24.21 | cds | Where's the W32codecs? Are they in apt? |
| 00:24.27 | asg | cds: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:24.36 | sparr | meh, screw it |
| 00:24.40 | amphi | cds: ask dpkg about 'marillat' |
| 00:24.40 | streuner | asg: argh - you are fast today :-) |
| 00:24.41 | sparr | command line options are for wimps |
| 00:24.47 | sparr | real programs figure it out on their own :) |
| 00:24.50 | beardy | /msg dpkg w32codecs |
| 00:24.55 | sparr | real programs... like mplayer! |
| 00:24.56 | lunitik | cds: add 'deb http://debian-multimedia.org testing main' to sources.list |
| 00:25.02 | sparr | fed it the .bin directly, plays like a charm |
| 00:25.12 | asg | streuner: fast but not particularly accurate |
| 00:25.17 | thingfish | lunitik: are you sure she's running testing? |
| 00:25.19 | lunitik | cds: thats also where you get mplayer for debian usually |
| 00:25.21 | stoned | stew, have you checked it yet? |
| 00:25.24 | sparr | i wish i had an optimus keyboard to use with mplayer :) |
| 00:25.28 | lunitik | thingfish: yes... she said earlier |
| 00:25.34 | beardy | xmms does not suck, realmedia* does, and hard. |
| 00:25.45 | thingfish | oh my bad, lunitik. |
| 00:25.53 | stoned | hey thinger man dude homie bro |
| 00:26.00 | streuner | dpkg, start a music player war |
| 00:26.04 | stoned | whats goin' on |
| 00:26.07 | thingfish | hey buddie, you have your surgery yet? |
| 00:26.09 | lunitik | beardy: opinions are like arse holes... she has amarok... xmms doesn't even compete |
| 00:26.14 | stoned | nah man, waitin on medical insurance |
| 00:26.14 | Dwonis | Sigh. There are some routing loops that are so simple that you wouldn't think they'd be possible: /usr/sbin/traceroute -n 0xdeadbeef |
| 00:26.20 | stoned | I haven't played guitar in a few weeks now |
| 00:26.21 | stoned | :( |
| 00:26.27 | olczyk | Hey. My monitor starts a bit off when I boot. I can use xvidtune to fix it, but I don't know how to make the fix pernament. Is seems that XF86Config-4 doesn't have parameters for modelines. |
| 00:26.34 | thingfish | stoned: yikes, you must be jonesing. |
| 00:26.36 | cds | lunitik: Done - what do I install? |
| 00:26.43 | stew | stoned: yeah it looks good |
| 00:26.48 | cds | Gah - it needs a key. |
| 00:26.53 | cds | Where do I get the key? |
| 00:26.54 | streuner | asg: well, someone said he is a loser, another said he is blind, so it gives sense today then :-) |
| 00:27.05 | asg | heh |
| 00:27.12 | stoned | btw, I had my interview at dell again, I think it well well. is 32,000 a year, but lots of benefits, and I havne' teven graduated yet. Sounds pretty alright, but there is some overtime involved in making sales quotas |
| 00:27.14 | stoned | oh well |
| 00:27.14 | stew | !blootbot is also http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot |
| 00:27.15 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 00:27.15 | lunitik | cds: apt-get update && apt-get install w32codecs ... also... may want to 'apt-get upgrade' too to get a newer mplayer maybe |
| 00:27.19 | thingfish | hey let's not knock the blind loser community. |
| 00:27.19 | stoned | at least it pays |
| 00:27.25 | stoned | stew, I added one |
| 00:27.29 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 00:27.29 | dpkg | dpkgbot is probably Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. |
| 00:27.34 | beardy | lunitik: Saying that something sucks will always generate the countersuck. |
| 00:27.45 | cds | lunitik: It's demanding a key? |
| 00:27.55 | lunitik | cds: 'y' |
| 00:28.00 | meriad | yummy |
| 00:28.01 | asg | lunitik: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 00:28.10 | asg | s/lunitik/cds/ |
| 00:28.15 | heh_v_water | Dwonis, why is it bouncing between two hosts like that? |
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| 00:28.54 | Dwonis | heh_v_water: You'd have to ask the sysadmins of those machines. |
| 00:29.08 | lunitik | beardy: except, but its true in the case of XMMS ... :o |
| 00:29.13 | refnumzx | i need to know how to use sed to over write the current file, i have a backup elsewhere |
| 00:29.39 | cds | lunitik: Ok, how do I do it bedinh a proxy? |
| 00:29.43 | cds | behind* |
| 00:29.50 | heh_v_water | Dwonis, so you suppose each of them two addresses are using each other as a default gateway? |
| 00:29.56 | meriad | man rice crackers rock |
| 00:30.05 | lunitik | cds: no idea... maybe someone else can help with that |
| 00:30.11 | thingfish | tsk no they suck. |
| 00:30.19 | Dwonis | heh_v_water: probably something like that |
| 00:30.22 | cds | thingfish: You might do :) |
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| 00:30.40 | thingfish | ;) |
| 00:30.51 | cds | Though, I don't remember which one : |
| 00:30.51 | cds | :p |
| 00:30.57 | meriad | THEY SUCK? no way :> |
| 00:30.57 | meriad | hehe |
| 00:31.14 | thingfish | cds: wasn't it from a certain rpm-based distro? |
| 00:31.22 | cds | Probably :) |
| 00:31.31 | cds | RPM pissed me off once too much.. |
| 00:31.32 | stoned | thingfish, I started a 3.5 mm deep scallop on my Gibson Les Paul |
| 00:31.32 | thingfish | meriad: actually I was thinking of those nasty rice cakes. |
| 00:31.33 | stoned | :D |
| 00:31.43 | thingfish | stoned: what!!! |
| 00:31.44 | stoned | only got frest 24/23/22 scalloped |
| 00:31.59 | simonrvn | kwe kwe, tan'si, hello, hi, boozhoo, ahneen, bonjour, kwe, ciao |
| 00:32.07 | thingfish | stoned: oh what the hell are you doing you *never* mess with original. |
| 00:32.08 | stoned | smoooth, man very smooth. No more finger flesh touching the wood of the fingerboard, less resistance, much better control and much better vibrato |
| 00:32.24 | heh_v_water | stoned, what are you using to create the dips in the neck? |
| 00:32.25 | thingfish | aack lunitik has uncovered my nakedness. |
| 00:32.35 | stoned | thingfish, my uncle used to work for gibson. He made this axe in 1971. I have a few spare original necks laying around |
| 00:32.41 | cds | lunitik: I used to avoid the place most of the time. |
| 00:32.46 | meriad | thingfish- those are good too if you get the flavored carmel ones :P |
| 00:32.56 | cds | lunitik: There's a certain op (naming no names) who doesn't like me. |
| 00:33.04 | Big_Wolf | how long is it supposed to take to repartition a drive? |
| 00:33.20 | thingfish | stoned: well then please accept my apologies - that is impressive indeed, although I must admit to not being as big a guitar fanatic as some of my old buddies. |
| 00:33.26 | cds | Gah. |
| 00:33.32 | stoned | heh_v_water, 1/8 to 1/2 inch round files of various harsh grains. Very smooth sandpapger to even it out, and murphy's oil polish to smooth it out, and then laqour it |
| 00:33.35 | Dwonis | Big_Wolf: *just* to repartition? a few seconds |
| 00:33.38 | cds | It'd probably be easier to tell realplayer to use xine. |
| 00:33.42 | cds | Is there a way to do so? |
| 00:33.44 | thingfish | anyway, cds, welcome to Debian! |
| 00:33.47 | Dwonis | Big_Wolf: creating a filesystem on a partition takes longer |
| 00:33.52 | cds | thingfish: Thanks ;) |
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| 00:33.59 | Big_Wolf | Dwonis: i have a windows partition that i'm making smaller, to make room for linux |
| 00:34.16 | streuner | partition magic |
| 00:34.18 | thingfish | cds: add that marillat line to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update then apt-get install w32codecs. and voila. |
| 00:34.19 | Dwonis | Big_Wolf: ohhh... yes, resizing filesystems can take a while |
| 00:34.27 | Big_Wolf | ok |
| 00:34.33 | streuner | don't forget to backup your data... |
| 00:34.37 | Big_Wolf | just making sure that it's really supposed to take this long :) |
| 00:34.40 | stoned | !tell cds -about dmm |
| 00:34.42 | cds | thingfish: I'm having problems getting the key. |
| 00:34.42 | stoned | :D |
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| 00:34.48 | Dwonis | Big_Wolf: the resizer basically has to move all your data out of the to-be-freed area, and that can take a while, depending on whats there |
| 00:34.50 | stoned | nm, guess you already know |
| 00:34.58 | thingfish | cds: oh yes I forgot you're running testing....ick |
| 00:35.00 | cds | stoned: I'm aware of that. |
| 00:35.01 | stoned | why do I jump in the middle of conversations |
| 00:35.10 | stoned | I'll never know |
| 00:35.11 | thingfish | stoned: because you're stoned. |
| 00:35.14 | Dwonis | Big_Wolf: what streuner said applies as well, although I'm guessing that it's too late now for that :) |
| 00:35.24 | streuner | sure |
| 00:35.24 | stoned | haven't been stoned in weeks, and still can't smoke until I get a job |
| 00:35.26 | streuner | :-) |
| 00:35.28 | stoned | everyone tests man |
| 00:35.31 | Big_Wolf | well it's a new install of windows, so i'm not too worried about backing stuff up |
| 00:35.39 | streuner | but partition magic is really good :-) |
| 00:35.40 | thingfish | stoned: not USA 800! :) |
| 00:35.43 | stoned | lol |
| 00:35.46 | lunitik | thingfish: etch/testing makes a fine desktop... very few use sarge/stable for that... |
| 00:35.49 | asg | stoned: Community Colleges don't ;) |
| 00:35.52 | thingfish | of course, then, they don't pay shit, either. |
| 00:35.56 | stoned | asg, lol |
| 00:35.58 | thingfish | most colleges don't |
| 00:36.17 | stoned | well, if I score this sales manager position at dell, I can start making 32,000$ a year |
| 00:36.21 | lunitik | thingfish: most just use sarge for servers... (see CentOS uses in Fedora community) |
| 00:36.24 | stoned | which isn't much, but hell, its something, until I graduate |
| 00:36.39 | asg | stoned: it's a start and better than nothing. |
| 00:36.40 | thingfish | lunitik: well I guess I'm one of the odd ones that thinks sarge makes a fine desktop. Of course I use it as one. |
| 00:36.45 | cds | Real Fedora men use RHEL! |
| 00:36.57 | streuner | omg |
| 00:36.59 | asg | cds: and pay out the ass for it |
| 00:37.06 | streuner | haha |
| 00:37.08 | asg | cds: which is fine if you have the cash |
| 00:37.13 | Dwonis | cds: "use" RHEL? blasphemy! |
| 00:37.19 | cds | Sorry... |
| 00:37.23 | dvs | RHEL uses you! |
| 00:37.28 | stoned | cds, what about real women? what do they use? |
| 00:37.31 | cds | Real fedora men wish they didn't have to use RHEL! |
| 00:37.34 | cds | stoned: Debian. |
| 00:37.36 | streuner | !enterprise |
| 00:37.36 | stoned | word. |
| 00:37.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, enterprise is a marketing buzzword which means "big, expensive, complex, and so full of bugs that you require a support contract to keep it running" |
| 00:37.39 | thingfish | oh get this: my new place of employment actually uses that trash fedora for either a file server or print server, don't know which, but who cares, that crap isn't meant to be in a production environment. |
| 00:37.53 | Dwonis | !factinfo enterprise |
| 00:37.54 | dpkg | enterprise -- created by greycat <~wooledg@192.35.79.70> at Fri Mar 19 16:20:35 2004 (843 days); it has been requested 14 times, last by streuner, 17s ago. |
| 00:37.56 | streuner | cds: see what dpkg told you :-) |
| 00:37.59 | simonrvn | my condolences thingfish |
| 00:38.00 | thingfish | I about choked when they told me that. |
| 00:38.02 | cds | thingfish: So... why don't you like fedora? :) |
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| 00:38.09 | dvs | thingfish: has it crashed? |
| 00:38.10 | streuner | Dwonis: who else? :-) |
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| 00:38.14 | thingfish | cds: can you say...BUGS? |
| 00:38.20 | Dwonis | streuner: that's what I was thinking |
| 00:38.22 | thingfish | I mean really. |
| 00:38.24 | simonrvn | dvs: should be asking how many times has it crashed ;) |
| 00:38.33 | k-man | can you use pc4200 ram in place of pc2100 ram? |
| 00:38.35 | cds | That didn't bother me so much. |
| 00:38.38 | dvs | simonrvn: sorry, my mistake. ;-) |
| 00:38.41 | cds | yum really started getting to me, though. |
| 00:38.43 | simonrvn | heheh ;) |
| 00:38.58 | thingfish | dvs: well according to them, it runs better than all their win2k servers hehe |
| 00:39.04 | cds | I mean - why would you have vim as a requirement for sudo? |
| 00:39.05 | Dwonis | thingfish: What? It's not like Red Hat would ship a buggy development version of a compil... oh wait |
| 00:39.09 | dvs | thingfish: OK. THAT I believe. |
| 00:39.10 | k-man | fujitsu says pc4200 ram won't work in my notebook as it needs pc2100, but i don't really see why it wouldn't work |
| 00:39.11 | simonrvn | oh man, anything is better than winblows |
| 00:39.12 | thingfish | hahahaha |
| 00:39.15 | stoned | k-man, you can try it. Take out your other sticks, put in the 4200 and boot. Either it will boot, or it won't |
| 00:39.23 | thingfish | Dwonis: good one |
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| 00:39.34 | k-man | stoned, but i want to buy it (i don't own it yet) |
| 00:39.44 | Dwonis | thingfish: I can't imagine it's worse than Mandriva |
| 00:39.47 | CHodapp | I tried FC5. It had some issues. The first thing I encountered was a lack of any command to add users. The second was that its built-in package manager crashed upon starting, in a stock installation. |
| 00:39.52 | k-man | stoned, it turns out that pc4200 is cheaper than pc2100 at the moment |
| 00:39.54 | stoned | k-man, look at your mother board specs, they specify which kind of ram it supports |
| 00:40.00 | k-man | ok |
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| 00:40.03 | thingfish | Dwonis: oh well mandriva et al are in a class by themselves. |
| 00:40.07 | stoned | k-man, eitherway, consult your motherboard documentation |
| 00:40.14 | k-man | ok |
| 00:40.14 | cloneio | LOLZ http://digg.com/linux_unix/Richard_Stallman_supports_voluntary_pedophilia |
| 00:40.14 | cds | CHodapp: adduser? |
| 00:40.15 | simonrvn | .... waaay down |
| 00:40.15 | k-man | thanks |
| 00:40.17 | stoned | sure |
| 00:40.29 | Dwonis | cripes, I just *love* Mandriva's idea of strong security. They remove world-read (but not world-execute) from /usr/bin... |
| 00:40.37 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 00:40.46 | streuner | cloneio: please, don't use that. |
| 00:40.46 | amphi | gnaa again? |
| 00:40.53 | thingfish | it is suggested that cloneio gets banned real quick. |
| 00:40.58 | Dwonis | I mean really, it's just *asking* for people to use root when they shouldn't |
| 00:41.00 | simonrvn | highly muchly |
| 00:41.04 | thingfish | ;) |
| 00:41.10 | stoned | amphi, where?' |
| 00:41.18 | jelly-home | something smells fishy |
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| 00:41.26 | amphi | stoned: cloneio - or a workalike |
| 00:41.29 | simonrvn | and it isn't thingfish |
| 00:41.33 | stoned | ahh |
| 00:41.34 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 00:41.38 | stoned | lol |
| 00:41.42 | Dwonis | compilers require special permissions, too (although this actually affects the ability to execute them)... but who, who can run arbitrary code, can't have the code download a compiler binary? |
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| 00:41.58 | thingfish | hehe thanks simonrvn I was feeling like going and hiding. |
| 00:42.07 | simonrvn | thingfish: just buggin' ya bud :) |
| 00:42.15 | simonrvn | np :) |
| 00:42.20 | thingfish | simonrvn: ;) |
| 00:42.22 | stoned | reminds me of an afroman song. "this old dude woke up and went to the market, and caught a strong whiff of fishes smell in the market. He then said,"good morning ladies" |
| 00:42.26 | stoned | lol |
| 00:42.30 | cloneio | RMS works for the chinese communist party |
| 00:42.32 | cloneio | LOL |
| 00:42.38 | simonrvn | hey, it's like any other person, you either like them, or don't |
| 00:42.41 | CHodapp | stoned, I thought it was a blind dude... |
| 00:42.50 | stoned | CHodapp, whatever man, I can't remember |
| 00:42.55 | thingfish | you mean RMS the st ignucius guy? why surely all Debian folk especially love him. |
| 00:42.55 | CHodapp | GEEEEEZ |
| 00:42.58 | stoned | CHodapp, blind makes sense |
| 00:43.06 | simonrvn | cloneio: do you find yourself funny? we don't. your jokes are lame-assed. bye. |
| 00:43.10 | streuner | thingfish: oh no :-) |
| 00:43.17 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:43.21 | cloneio | someone's having a tamper tantrum! |
| 00:43.22 | cloneio | LOL |
| 00:43.32 | cloneio | someone's having a temper tantrum! |
| 00:43.32 | Dwonis | someone can't spell temper |
| 00:43.33 | streuner | thingfish: you would be suprised how many don't love him ... |
| 00:43.33 | stoned | A colt 45 and two zig zags, baby thats all we need... |
| 00:43.33 | cloneio | LOL |
| 00:43.34 | stoned | hehe |
| 00:43.35 | CHodapp | LOL |
| 00:43.36 | CHodapp | HEH |
| 00:43.38 | simonrvn | who me? i'm not crying and screaming, dude |
| 00:43.40 | cloneio | someone's having a temper tantrum! |
| 00:43.41 | thingfish | simonrvn doesn't have temper tantrums, cloneio. |
| 00:43.42 | cloneio | LOL |
| 00:43.50 | cloneio | LULZ |
| 00:44.00 | thingfish | !ops please note that cloneio is being odd. |
| 00:44.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: thingfish complains about: please note that cloneio is being odd. |
| 00:44.00 | stoned | cloneio, do you have anything debian related to ask, or to contribute? |
| 00:44.09 | simonrvn | ah, got it before i did :) |
| 00:44.13 | thingfish | ;) |
| 00:44.15 | dvs | odd is putting it mildly |
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| 00:44.20 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@toronto-HSE-ppp4058115.sympatico.ca] by azeem |
| 00:44.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 00:44.27 | streuner | at this time? |
| 00:44.28 | simonrvn | miigwetch azeem |
| 00:44.29 | RichiH | azeem: oi |
| 00:44.29 | thingfish | well I'm in an understatement kind of mood. |
| 00:44.33 | dvs | he's from here!? |
| 00:44.35 | streuner | are you working, azeem? |
| 00:44.44 | thingfish | oh isn't that azeem just the best... |
| 00:44.45 | azeem | I was watching `Sin City' earlier, beware |
| 00:44.48 | streuner | its really hot in .de ... |
| 00:45.00 | asg | azeem: not a problem, I only irc in black and white |
| 00:45.09 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 00:45.11 | azeem | and was now reading through the debconf7 "decision making process" |
| 00:45.13 | stoned | asg, get with the times, yo |
| 00:45.13 | jelly-home | I'm wearing red. |
| 00:45.19 | stoned | :D |
| 00:45.31 | asg | stoned: I prefer moods to themes ;) |
| 00:45.32 | Dwonis | stoned: I had a boss, once, who figured I should get with the times because I use vim and mutt... |
| 00:45.33 | simonrvn | i'm wearing a red t-shirt and underwear |
| 00:45.43 | thingfish | oh stop! |
| 00:45.44 | stoned | asg, Dwonis lol |
| 00:45.44 | abrotman | azeem: process? |
| 00:45.45 | thingfish | ;) |
| 00:45.49 | simonrvn | heh heh |
| 00:45.57 | thingfish | red is a good color. |
| 00:46.04 | simonrvn | red is good ;) |
| 00:46.05 | stoned | simonrvn, devilish much? hehe |
| 00:46.06 | streuner | azeem: well, they spent about more than 6 hours to made a decision |
| 00:46.20 | thingfish | did you know the slavs have always considered red as the color of happiness and good times? |
| 00:46.22 | simonrvn | red+black=awesome |
| 00:46.32 | stoned | simonrvn, and neon purple too |
| 00:46.36 | azeem | asg: it'll rain anyway |
| 00:46.41 | thingfish | no no no, red+black is goth and you'd better not be goth. |
| 00:46.41 | asg | simonrvn: google king diamond ; rethink |
| 00:46.46 | Dwonis | stoned: gotta have neon purple |
| 00:46.46 | stoned | its about to rain here, downpour actually |
| 00:46.49 | asg | azeem: no worries, I'll be in the pub :) |
| 00:46.53 | Dwonis | stoned: it goes without saying |
| 00:46.59 | stoned | Dwonis, thats what I'm saying dog! |
| 00:47.00 | Dwonis | stoned: obviously |
| 00:47.01 | stoned | word. |
| 00:47.21 | simonrvn | we just had our downpour, chee miigwetch mitchoomiss, lots of thunder and lightning |
| 00:47.22 | Dwonis | wtf *is* neon purple, anyway? |
| 00:47.26 | azeem | man, I had to reboot into Ubuntu to transmit my SMS (the memory was full) to my notebook |
| 00:47.37 | stoned | Dwonis, the most beautiful color to me |
| 00:47.45 | stoned | or shade rather |
| 00:47.48 | asg | Dwonis: the color that comes out of the bottom of cars in 'Too fast, Too Furious' type films |
| 00:47.50 | simonrvn | thingfish: nope, jus' indian ;) |
| 00:47.54 | thingfish | oh man that is cool, simonrvn, what is that? that is so cool that you can speak some of it. |
| 00:48.00 | thingfish | oh heh |
| 00:48.01 | Dwonis | asg: oh, that... |
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| 00:48.08 | simonrvn | that was anishnabe |
| 00:48.12 | thingfish | red and black though? |
| 00:48.17 | asg | Dwonis: or http://gimp.shacknet.nu/computers/datacenter/e6800-disgraced.jpg (in the right light) |
| 00:48.29 | simonrvn | yeh man, 2 of the 4 colours :) |
| 00:48.41 | stoned | actually black isn't a color, technically |
| 00:48.48 | stoned | it is the Abscence of all colors |
| 00:48.52 | simonrvn | in light no, in dyes, yes |
| 00:48.56 | stoned | ahh yes |
| 00:48.57 | stoned | yes |
| 00:48.59 | stoned | true |
| 00:49.00 | thingfish | oh well simonrvn that might make sense then (it's always about your context, isn't it? interesting)/ |
| 00:49.03 | thingfish | aack |
| 00:49.07 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 00:49.22 | simonrvn | that was "great thanks, creator" |
| 00:49.31 | RichiH | azeem, thingfish: as a follow up, i needed to kline :/ |
| 00:49.32 | thingfish | beautiful |
| 00:49.47 | streuner | RichiH: why? |
| 00:49.56 | thingfish | all praise to RichiH and azeem for their good works among men. |
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| 00:50.03 | asg | streuner: becuase RichiH is our hero |
| 00:50.11 | simonrvn | aho, they do good by us |
| 00:50.24 | asg | Dwonis: you should have seen the faces on the people form Sun when they saw it |
| 00:50.33 | azeem | RichiH: ah, so I don't need to worry about the 10 minute ban timeout and can sleep now :) |
| 00:50.38 | streuner | asg: well, there are too many heros in .de (soccer) :-) |
| 00:50.39 | thingfish | yes they do! I mean the channel really could not survive without people like them. |
| 00:50.52 | RichiH | streuner: would not stop, registered just to continue spamming |
| 00:50.54 | asg | streuner: indeed |
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| 00:51.00 | subvertir | What's an lrm filesystem? |
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| 00:51.03 | Dwonis | asg: I can imagine |
| 00:51.09 | abrotman | i suspect it was our freind from toronto that we had so many problems with |
| 00:51.18 | Dwonis | asg: Not having any Sun boxen, I used to stick my "Designed for Windows" stickers on my trashcan. It seemed fitting. |
| 00:51.18 | streuner | asg: i don't like heros much... |
| 00:51.19 | RichiH | asg: heh |
| 00:51.22 | RichiH | azeem: me too |
| 00:51.22 | dvs | not me |
| 00:51.24 | asg | RichiH: :) |
| 00:51.32 | asg | streuner: heros or gyros? |
| 00:51.38 | streuner | haha |
| 00:51.38 | thingfish | ok, enough chatting...time to go see if I can manage to make up with my asshole sweetie. the only thing that makes me want to make up is that I guess I was an asshole too. |
| 00:51.41 | simonrvn | mmm, gyros |
| 00:51.54 | subvertir | thingfish you've sold me! |
| 00:51.58 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:52.03 | asg | Dwonis: :) |
| 00:52.06 | icmp | can someone do me a huge favor |
| 00:52.09 | abrotman | thingfish: don't bother .. sleep on the street! |
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| 00:52.14 | simonrvn | thingfish: love and working at it heals everything |
| 00:52.21 | thingfish | abrotman: oh don't *even* tempt me. |
| 00:52.24 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:52.32 | nefertum | do you know any app to record the output audio? |
| 00:52.37 | subvertir | Anyone know what the hell an lrm filesystem is? |
| 00:52.37 | asg | simonrvn: communication is important |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | !info vsound sarge |
| 00:52.38 | icmp | could someone who has mutt run a 'mutt -v | grep -i patch' and pm me the result. I'm researching the latest mutt vulnerability |
| 00:52.44 | dpkg | vsound: (Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 00:53.00 | Ryushin | So I want to play an old DOS game. Is dosemu the preferred DOS emulator? |
| 00:53.02 | simonrvn | asg: yeh, that's part of 'working at it', for me. it's very important |
| 00:53.04 | thingfish | simonrvn: <sigh> I am afraid I also believe that. |
| 00:53.21 | Dwonis | Ryushin: dosbox is, if you have the CPU horsepower for it |
| 00:53.31 | asg | simonrvn: for me it's the most important. Otherwise, people degenerate into pointless supposition. |
| 00:53.47 | RichiH | asg, thingfish, streuner: let me refer you to alindeman and UdontKnow in case he comes back |
| 00:53.48 | Ryushin | Dwonis: Pentium 4M 2 Ghz should be okay I would think. |
| 00:53.55 | abrotman | wussy! |
| 00:54.01 | asg | RichiH: have a good night |
| 00:54.12 | streuner | RichiH: no worries, we are old enough ;-) |
| 00:54.13 | Ryushin | Dwonis: Found my old game of Syndicate. Thought that would bring back some memories. |
| 00:54.15 | thingfish | RichiH: yes thank you. although I'm about to take off for the night. |
| 00:54.22 | Dwonis | Rydekull: probably, though you might have to stop your 6 instances of vmware... |
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| 00:54.26 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 00:54.32 | Dwonis | Ryushin: ^ |
| 00:54.39 | simonrvn | a few years ago, my sweetie/wife broke up for 3 months... i couldn't take it anymore, i was depressed all the time... so i called her up one night and said crying my eyes out 'so... do you want to get back together?' and she said yes, crying too... man that so hard being apart |
| 00:54.42 | thingfish | tsk and he was from canada even. one expects better from canada. |
| 00:54.47 | simonrvn | asg: yup |
| 00:54.59 | thingfish | well on second thought. |
| 00:55.01 | simonrvn | thingfish: people are people |
| 00:55.06 | abrotman | i'm a bot! |
| 00:55.17 | RichiH | you're a brot |
| 00:55.18 | dvs | thingfish: yeah |
| 00:55.19 | simonrvn | abrotman: foo |
| 00:55.19 | thingfish | simonrvn: god and we suck, don't we hehe |
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| 00:55.25 | asg | !RichiH++ |
| 00:55.43 | thingfish | ok kids, adios amigos and all that |
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| 00:56.20 | simonrvn | sometimes we suck greatly. sometimes i see just beautiful things... we're so full of good potential, it's so sad to see people wasting theirs on pointless garbage and trouble and making bad vibes... |
| 00:56.33 | Dwonis | one day we'll find out that abrotman isn't joking about being a bot... |
| 00:56.47 | simonrvn | RichiH: heh heh heh |
| 00:56.52 | abrotman | Dwonis: is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:56.57 | Dwonis | which would be cool enough to be worth the embarassment |
| 00:57.10 | Dwonis | abrotman: "it"? |
| 00:57.18 | abrotman | Dwonis: you lost me on that one |
| 00:57.22 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 00:57.33 | Dwonis | oh, heh |
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| 00:57.41 | Dwonis | bastard! |
| 00:57.48 | simonrvn | hehehe |
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| 00:58.53 | Dwonis | What does it say about human intelligence if you fail to correctly administer the Turing test? |
| 00:59.06 | Dwonis | s/human/your/ |
| 00:59.56 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:01.09 | simonrvn | intelligence without wisdom is potentially harmful. without wisdom to exercise intelligence in a good way, we are in danger of causing great destruction. which i might add, has happened. |
| 01:01.58 | simonrvn | now, all we have left is to wait out the changes and see if we will learn from our mistakes, and grow. |
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| 01:02.11 | simonrvn | ...or we will crash and burn. |
| 01:02.13 | asg | simonrvn: or you could blow your wad on Charisma and charm people. |
| 01:02.29 | asg | simonrvn: this seems to happen more often than not |
| 01:02.42 | simonrvn | bah, fuck that. who needs charisma when you just be yourself :) |
| 01:03.08 | Dwonis | simonrvn: my "yourself" is a jackass. I need charisma. |
| 01:03.27 | simonrvn | dvs: yup, and it is. |
| 01:03.40 | simonrvn | Dwonis: heheh, i kinda doubt that |
| 01:03.43 | DrDJo | hello everyone |
| 01:03.56 | simonrvn | hi |
| 01:04.02 | streuner | is charisma not something with entertainment? |
| 01:04.04 | Dwonis | simonrvn: then it must be working :-P |
| 01:04.09 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 01:04.31 | simonrvn | !dict charisma |
| 01:04.33 | dpkg | Dictionary 'charisma' a personal attractiveness that enables you to influence others |
| 01:04.38 | DrDJo | I've install a proftpd server, i add a user with adduser, i can log in proftpd with , and with a useradd i can't, do you know why ? |
| 01:05.06 | streuner | that's surely wrong :-) |
| 01:05.09 | simonrvn | oh boy, you'd be better off with ssh |
| 01:05.32 | Dwonis | proftpd... is that packaged? Last I heard it was a security trainwreck... |
| 01:05.34 | DrDJo | /usr/sbin/useradd -p $password -g clientweb -d /home/$login -m -s /bin/nologin $login |
| 01:05.35 | streuner | most people influence others with there worries |
| 01:05.35 | simonrvn | it's more or less that |
| 01:05.37 | DrDJo | That's wrong ? |
| 01:05.38 | Dwonis | or no, that's wuftpd |
| 01:05.49 | Dwonis | proftpd is just a car-crash |
| 01:05.59 | streuner | because that's the 'weak' part of humans |
| 01:06.03 | simonrvn | pure-ftpd isn't too bad |
| 01:06.04 | DrDJo | yes but i don't have the choice so ... |
| 01:06.08 | Dwonis | I use vsftpd myself |
| 01:06.11 | waltz | why doesn't Gentoo release CDs other than 2006.0? |
| 01:06.12 | Dwonis | but I'm paranoid :) |
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| 01:06.16 | simonrvn | that one's ok too |
| 01:06.23 | abrotman | waltz: wrong channel ? |
| 01:06.29 | waltz | oh crap |
| 01:06.29 | simonrvn | waltz: good question. go ask in #gentoo |
| 01:06.36 | streuner | !gentoosmite waltz |
| 01:06.40 | waltz | lol sorry guys.. |
| 01:06.41 | dvs | !evict waltz |
| 01:06.43 | simonrvn | np |
| 01:06.49 | Dwonis | waltz: *complaining* about other distros is permitted here, but you won't get solutions... |
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| 01:06.57 | DrDJo | Do you know why i can log in with a adduser's user and not with a useradd's user ? |
| 01:07.15 | Nexus | All Intel DualCore procs are 64bit, right? So should I be using ia64 instead of i386? |
| 01:07.21 | waltz | I've never used Gentoo, but I have used Debian |
| 01:07.25 | asg | DrDJo: you didn't create the /home/foo dir perhaps? |
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| 01:07.30 | waltz | right now I'm building the ports tree on FreeBSD |
| 01:07.38 | DrDJo | i create it |
| 01:07.39 | dvs | Nexus: no, use amd64 |
| 01:07.39 | Dwonis | DrDJo: adduser does a bunch of stuff that useradd doesn't. |
| 01:07.44 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 01:07.51 | DrDJo | like ? |
| 01:07.52 | streuner | waltz: what's next? |
| 01:08.03 | asg | DrDJo: then check /var/log/auth.log and see if anything odd pops out |
| 01:08.05 | waltz | huh? |
| 01:08.08 | Dwonis | I always just use adduser, possibly with --disabled-password |
| 01:08.12 | Nexus | dvs, You use amd64 on intel 64 machines? Is ia64 only for Xeon's, etc? |
| 01:08.15 | streuner | (first gentoo, FreeBSD....) |
| 01:08.23 | dvs | Nexus: ia64 is for Itanium |
| 01:08.26 | DrDJo | ok thx i will see that |
| 01:08.28 | waltz | no, I haven't use Gentoo yet |
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| 01:08.49 | Ronin | waltz: so then why complain about thier release cycle? |
| 01:09.02 | streuner | wrong channel |
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| 01:09.15 | Dwonis | egad, it would be nice if kerberos apps would LOG SOMETHING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE |
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| 01:09.28 | simonrvn | Dwonis: no kidding, eh? |
| 01:09.39 | olczyk | Hey. My monitor starts a bit off when I boot. I can use xvidtune to fix it, but I don't know how to make the fix pernament. Is seems that XF86Config-4 doesn't have parameters for modelines. |
| 01:09.43 | streuner | so he said... |
| 01:09.48 | asg | Dwonis: libpam-krb5 with the 'debug' keyword at least logs something |
| 01:09.51 | simonrvn | olczyk: add them |
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| 01:10.07 | olczyk | aimonrvn where? |
| 01:10.08 | Dwonis | asg: thanks. noted, although I don't think SSH uses that |
| 01:10.22 | asg | Dwonis: no, though it can be configured to use it instead of the internal code |
| 01:10.31 | Nexus | dvs, Gotcha. So amd64 for intel 64 dual core chips. There isn't an amd64 netinstall CD on the main debian page. But I think I remeber there being a beta one. Is that true? |
| 01:10.41 | asg | Dwonis: the first problem with kerberos that's usually at fault is time synchronization |
| 01:10.51 | olczyk | Since there are *no* modelines in XF86Config-4 I presume they are no longer there. |
| 01:10.52 | Dwonis | simonrvn: yes. Seriously, krb5 is like a Sunday visitor to #debian. All it tells you is, "It's not working." |
| 01:10.56 | dvs | Nexus: there is one but I think it's for etch |
| 01:11.00 | Dwonis | asg: checked that. it's not that |
| 01:11.08 | olczyk | Especially since the file structure is rewritten. |
| 01:11.15 | Dwonis | asg: I can actually log into other machines, just not one of them |
| 01:11.18 | Nexus | dvs, Ahh, gotcha. IN any case, I could just use i386 and be just fine, right? |
| 01:11.21 | simonrvn | even heimdal is very obtuse |
| 01:11.26 | dvs | Nexus: yup |
| 01:11.26 | asg | Dwonis: ah, okay |
| 01:11.36 | Nexus | dvs, Sweet. Thank you for your help. |
| 01:11.44 | dvs | Nexus: you're welcome |
| 01:11.47 | Dwonis | asg: and I doubt it's having trouble connecting to the KDC, not least because it's the KDC I can't connect to |
| 01:12.00 | Dwonis | s/connect\>/authenticate/ |
| 01:12.15 | asg | Dwonis: /msg dpkg debug sshd (get better logging that way) |
| 01:12.25 | streuner | waltz: so why not just try debian, we are using it since years, it couldn't be that bad then ;-) |
| 01:12.49 | waltz | I have tried Debian |
| 01:13.00 | waltz | and I was near successful |
| 01:13.04 | disorder | olczyk: add them to section Monitor |
| 01:13.12 | Ronin | near successful? that like almost pregnant? :) |
| 01:13.13 | Dwonis | asg: ah... perfect... "No principal in keytab matches desired name" |
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| 01:13.15 | dvs | waltz: what version did you try? |
| 01:13.19 | waltz | 3.1 "sarge" |
| 01:13.36 | streuner | hm, makes sense then... |
| 01:13.37 | Ronin | waltz: thats a pretty straight forward install, what happened? |
| 01:13.51 | waltz | first I had problems with a PCI SATA adapter from Silicon Image (that was entirely my fault) |
| 01:13.51 | Dwonis | asg: of course, finding out what name is "desired" would help... |
| 01:14.07 | waltz | they don't have Linux drivers |
| 01:14.19 | asg | Dwonis: try running 'kinit' as the user you want to authenticate as |
| 01:14.26 | waltz | long story |
| 01:14.27 | m_n_p | i have a quick question |
| 01:14.39 | m_n_p | is grml a full debian boot cd? |
| 01:14.45 | streuner | waltz: well, driver support is a kernel-thingie, use the latest driver, done. |
| 01:15.12 | waltz | the adapter manual explicited stated that it only had drivers for Windows |
| 01:15.14 | streuner | waltz: s/driver/kernel/ |
| 01:15.30 | waltz | I don't think there is a kernel driver for it |
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| 01:15.41 | waltz | so what I need to do now is get a different adapter |
| 01:15.48 | streuner | time to get hardware which is supported and sell the old one |
| 01:15.49 | waltz | so I can use my 400 gig drives |
| 01:15.51 | dvs | 3ware! |
| 01:15.59 | waltz | I was thinking High-Point :) |
| 01:16.05 | Ronin | waltz: 400g? thats a lot of porn |
| 01:16.12 | waltz | that's just one |
| 01:16.13 | dvs | ha! |
| 01:16.20 | m_n_p | on second thought, is there even a full debian boot Cd? or just stuff like knoppix, etc. |
| 01:16.35 | Dwonis | asg: huh? on which machine? client or server? well, it works fine in either case (and I can authenticate to a third host) |
| 01:16.55 | syntaxis | m_n_p: that depends on your definition of "boot cd" |
| 01:17.00 | m_n_p | a live cd |
| 01:17.00 | dvs | m_n_p: they are in the process of making a debian live cd |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 01:17.01 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux-ata.org/ |
| 01:17.05 | Dwonis | asg: found it |
| 01:17.09 | asg | Dwonis: hmmm, odd. try logging in with <username@DOMAIN> |
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| 01:17.32 | Dwonis | asg: it didn't like 127.0.0.1 localhost the.hostname.com |
| 01:17.33 | waltz | I have a total of 0.95TB of storage in my 2U rackmount (2 magnetic 400GB SATA II drives w/ 3Gbps transfer rate and 16MB cache, and 2 magnetic 120GB SATA drives w/ 1.5Gbps transfer rate and 8MB cache) |
| 01:17.39 | Dwonis | asg: in /etc/hosts |
| 01:17.41 | asg | Dwonis: ah |
| 01:17.43 | m_n_p | dvs: okay, thanks. When will it be out? |
| 01:17.56 | dvs | m_n_p: dunno |
| 01:18.03 | syntaxis | m_n_p: it's a work in progress, but: http://live.debian.net/ has images you can download already |
| 01:18.14 | abrotman | !livecd |
| 01:18.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/, or http://live.debian.net/, or #debian-live on oftc |
| 01:18.15 | Dwonis | asg: although I'm not sure why that would matter, since default_realm is set in /etc/krb5.conf |
| 01:18.29 | dvs | that needs to be updated |
| 01:18.31 | m_n_p | i know what a livecd is, i'm using grml now |
| 01:18.36 | streuner | waltz: sounds like a question for debian-iso ML |
| 01:18.57 | asg | Dwonis: probably spurious |
| 01:19.00 | streuner | waltz: s/debian-iso/debian-isp/ |
| 01:19.13 | waltz | sorry? |
| 01:19.32 | Dwonis | asg: thanks :) |
| 01:19.36 | streuner | waltz: ask in the mailing-list (ML) of debian-isp too |
| 01:19.55 | asg | Dwonis: glad it's working, Kerberos is just short of Black Magic |
| 01:20.00 | waltz | what is debian-isp? |
| 01:20.12 | Dwonis | waltz: it's a mailing list |
| 01:20.17 | Dwonis | waltz: I think |
| 01:20.32 | streuner | isp=InternetServiceProvider mailing-list (ML) |
| 01:20.33 | waltz | oh |
| 01:20.40 | waltz | you mean about the driver support? |
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| 01:20.46 | streuner | sure |
| 01:20.55 | waltz | nah, it's not worth it... Silicon Image adapters are crap |
| 01:21.03 | waltz | I'm going to buy 2 HighPoint adapters |
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| 01:21.12 | streuner | hm, did you check out the latest kernel? |
| 01:21.13 | waltz | HighPoints are hardware-enabled |
| 01:21.15 | streuner | !kernel |
| 01:21.17 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.4, prepatch: 2.6.18-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.18-rc1-git3, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-rc1-mm1 |
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| 01:21.47 | streuner | they are really better supported in the latest kernels |
| 01:21.57 | waltz | meh |
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| 01:22.21 | waltz | I think I'm gonna opt for a multi-OS system |
| 01:22.52 | waltz | FreeBSD 4.11, 5.1, 5.4, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1, Gentoo, Debian, and more! |
| 01:23.07 | dvs | all at once? |
| 01:23.11 | waltz | sure :) |
| 01:23.16 | waltz | I like options |
| 01:23.16 | stwelin | Is there a more powerful (photoshop like) graphics program other than gimp with a stable release on Debian? |
| 01:24.09 | disorder | waltz: don't you need 6 primary partitions for those BSD's? |
| 01:24.17 | Dwonis | stwelin: not that I'm aware of. There's Corel's proprietary (but free download... at least it used to be) PhotoPAINT 9. |
| 01:24.33 | asg | disorder: no, the partitions are built in a slice which takes up a single primary partition |
| 01:24.38 | Dwonis | stwelin: and I've heard of a project to make GIMP's UI more like photoshop |
| 01:24.48 | stwelin | Dwonis: how about unstable or testing releases? |
| 01:24.55 | disorder | waltz: oh, i see |
| 01:24.58 | waltz | ;o |
| 01:25.01 | waltz | I don't know |
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| 01:25.06 | disorder | asg |
| 01:25.11 | waltz | oh yeah, slices |
| 01:25.14 | stwelin | Dwonis: i'm really desperate at this point, photoshop was one of the biggies i left behind in my conversion to Debian. |
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| 01:25.21 | amphi | stwelin: what do you mean, 'more powerful'? |
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| 01:26.21 | stwelin | amphi: Something that is more professional, i guess. The GIMP lacks some majour features that i used very often in Photoshop |
| 01:26.24 | zinx | stwelin: don't like gimp |
| 01:26.27 | zinx | stwelin: ? |
| 01:26.35 | zinx | stwelin: which feature(s)? |
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| 01:26.51 | Dwonis | stwelin: if you *need* Photoshop (i.e. you're a professional graphics artist) you could always try qemu or shell out for VMware to run it natively. There might be a Wine-based project that supports it, too. |
| 01:27.02 | stwelin | zinx: it's okay for drawing, but not adding precise borders, dealing with layers, adding text, etc. |
| 01:27.18 | zinx | stwelin: i've never had problems with any of those things |
| 01:27.22 | stwelin | dwonis: i was considering Wine-ing it. |
| 01:27.27 | abrotman | HI |
| 01:27.37 | asg | abrotman: a/s/l? |
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| 01:27.59 | Dwonis | stwelin: heh |
| 01:27.59 | Dwonis | heh |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | asg: you know .. my car has a radio setting .. ASL |
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| 01:27.59 | zinx | stwelin: so.. a description of how it could be made easier would be welcome :D |
| 01:28.04 | asg | abrotman: didn't know that |
| 01:28.09 | stwelin | zinx: maybe i am running an older version. GIMP just seems sort of primitive to me. |
| 01:28.20 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. it didn't really hit me until today |
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| 01:28.46 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 01:28.46 | zinx | stwelin: i think the only major thing it lacks, as far as i've used it, is the photoshop plugins |
| 01:28.47 | polishkoop | How do I stop X from loading during start up? |
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| 01:28.51 | Dwonis | stwelin: gimp 2.2's interface is a lot more visible than previous versions |
| 01:28.59 | abrotman | !tell polishkoop about nodm |
| 01:29.03 | zinx | stwelin: that is to say, the third-party plugins available for it |
| 01:29.13 | stwelin | dwonis: i am using 2.2 x_x maybe i am just too used to PS. |
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| 01:29.45 | polishkoop | abrotman: nothing happened |
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| 01:29.55 | Dwonis | stwelin: well, I've never used photoshop, but from what I've heard, gimp is decent enough for casual work. |
| 01:29.58 | stwelin | zinx: one thing i noticed is that some of the hotkeys i like do not even work (the ones that are in the help file, even) |
| 01:29.58 | abrotman | polishkoop: check another window .. dpkg told you somehting |
| 01:30.12 | stwelin | zinx: i can use the - key to zoom out, but the + key does nothing. |
| 01:30.13 | zinx | stwelin: hmm |
| 01:30.15 | amphi | stwelin: you can set any key-bindings you like |
| 01:30.19 | zinx | stwelin: you can change the key bindings |
| 01:30.44 | zinx | stwelin: highlight the option in the menu, and press a key.. you may need to enable some weird option in the prefs these days, though |
| 01:30.51 | stwelin | dwonis: i just have a hard time navigating with it, i can't even find a panel to show active layers |
| 01:30.53 | Mxyzpltk | it only takes a few "photoshop workbench" from radiantvista.com to realize there are several areas where gimp is behind, at least in the photographic side of image editing software |
| 01:31.04 | zinx | stwelin: 'show active layers'? |
| 01:31.06 | amphi | stwelin: ctrl-l by default |
| 01:31.08 | Mxyzpltk | I specially wish for adjustmen layers and a few plugins |
| 01:31.09 | Dwonis | stwelin: It's under Dialogs->Layers |
| 01:31.24 | zinx | stwelin: is that different from showing all layers? |
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| 01:31.46 | stwelin | zinx: that would be the same thing |
| 01:31.57 | zinx | stwelin: then, as they've said, it's under Dialogs->Layers |
| 01:32.05 | zinx | i generally keep that particular dialog up all the time |
| 01:32.12 | zinx | along with some others |
| 01:32.14 | stwelin | dwonis: ah, perfect. maybe i just need to learn a little bit more about it. |
| 01:32.24 | stwelin | yeah |
| 01:32.25 | stwelin | i do. |
| 01:32.29 | stwelin | or, will now, rather. |
| 01:32.38 | zinx | stwelin: as for text.. text gets its own (modifiable) layer |
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| 01:32.48 | Mxyzpltk | for some gimp basics, other than the manual, http://gug.sunsite.dk/?page=tutorials is a good place to start |
| 01:32.59 | zinx | which you can obviously turn in to a normal layer by doing stuff other than text on it |
| 01:33.10 | stwelin | zinx: photoshop is the same way, until you 'rasterize' the layer, or make it uneditable with the text tool. |
| 01:33.12 | zinx | erh, maybe not so obvious, but whatever :D |
| 01:33.16 | polishkoop | abrotman: are you sure it's nodm? |
| 01:33.16 | zinx | stwelin: yeah |
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| 01:33.26 | abrotman | !nodm |
| 01:33.26 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 01:33.29 | abrotman | yes .. very sure |
| 01:33.29 | clarissa | hello again ^.^ |
| 01:33.44 | clarissa | abrotman, do you know a very easy to handle ftp server tool for debian? :) |
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| 01:34.01 | clarissa | cause i cant do something big fixes or settings ^^" |
| 01:34.07 | abrotman | clarissa: vsftpd or proftpd |
| 01:34.14 | clarissa | whats the easiest :) |
| 01:34.21 | wols | vsftpd |
| 01:34.26 | clarissa | with GUI? |
| 01:34.41 | Kurtism | clarissa: pics? |
| 01:34.41 | wols | no gui for any ftp server |
| 01:34.50 | zinx | stwelin: and of course you don't get my colorization plugin if you use photoshop :DDD |
| 01:35.30 | stwelin | zinx: photoshop makes up for that with extremely easy navigability. x_X haha. |
| 01:35.38 | Dwonis | Gimp kicks Photoshop's ass... check out /usr/share/doc/gimp/README.MIDI... yes, MIDI |
| 01:35.39 | zinx | stwelin: hehe :D |
| 01:35.40 | clarissa | no guy? |
| 01:35.46 | stwelin | hahahaha |
| 01:35.47 | clarissa | GUI sorry |
| 01:35.54 | clarissa | args xD |
| 01:36.01 | zinx | stwelin: i dunno if it's easier, but it's definitely more consistent with the windows gui |
| 01:36.04 | clarissa | thats weird why no guis :( |
| 01:36.25 | wols | on the contrary. servers with GUIs are weird and a waste of ressources |
| 01:36.30 | Dwonis | clarissa: because GUIs are a pain to use, if you're a professional administrator |
| 01:36.37 | zinx | stwelin: which means it's probably easier to find stuff for most people |
| 01:36.38 | Dwonis | clarissa: so nobody bothers to write one |
| 01:36.38 | stwelin | zinx: i am trying to get used to the fact that gimp does not have a 'background' window. normally i have PS taking up my entire screen |
| 01:36.44 | clarissa | Dwonis, but i am not :( |
| 01:36.45 | zinx | stwelin: yeah |
| 01:36.49 | zinx | stwelin: i put it on a different vt |
| 01:36.55 | zinx | erh, virtual desktop |
| 01:37.07 | stwelin | zinx: but since i started using OpenCanvas, and finally GIMP, i am trying to get used to the windowed project window and tools panels |
| 01:37.08 | amphi | stwelin: that's one of the things I like, the small toolbox and image windows |
| 01:37.09 | stwelin | free-floating. |
| 01:37.15 | stwelin | yeah. |
| 01:37.20 | clarissa | hmm then i cant use a ftp server ._. |
| 01:37.37 | Ronin | clarissa: no gui? sure you can still use ftp |
| 01:37.48 | Dwonis | clarissa: don't be difficult. What is specifically that you want it to do? |
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| 01:38.09 | amphi | stwelin: pretty much everything is avaliable from a right-click in the image window |
| 01:38.19 | clarissa | i just want to servering some pictures that i can download they with my laptop with ftp client tool |
| 01:38.55 | polishkoop | abrotman: okay thanks it worked. What does nodm stand for though? |
| 01:38.58 | jerry | hello ,everyone |
| 01:38.59 | zinx | i didn't know they had AOL in non-english-speaking countries |
| 01:39.04 | jerry | hello ,everyone |
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| 01:39.11 | Dwonis | clarissa: run "apt-get install vsftpd", then put the pictures into /var/ftpd, and make sure they're world-readable |
| 01:39.22 | jerry | exit |
| 01:39.24 | jerry | quit |
| 01:39.25 | abrotman | polishkoop: NO Desktop Manager |
| 01:39.32 | Ronin | keep trying jerry ;) |
| 01:39.33 | polishkoop | abrotman: Thanks, I was close |
| 01:39.34 | zinx | jerry: try using a / in front of it |
| 01:39.43 | Dwonis | clarissa: sorry, I think it's /home/ftp/, not /var/ftpd |
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| 01:39.53 | stwelin | Does GIMP have a feature, when zoomed in, to hold down a key and drag to just move the image, instead of the working layer? |
| 01:40.03 | zinx | stwelin: yeah, middle-click-drag |
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| 01:40.11 | jerry | thank you |
| 01:40.12 | amphi | !greet jerry |
| 01:40.12 | dpkg | Nihao, jerry |
| 01:40.12 | stwelin | zinx: trackball mouse. X_X |
| 01:40.13 | zinx | stwelin: ... probably. i haven't tried it. |
| 01:40.20 | zinx | stwelin: :x |
| 01:40.28 | stwelin | zinx: is it configurable in bindings? |
| 01:40.30 | abrotman | stwelin: try on irc.gnome.org ... ask #gimp |
| 01:40.38 | jerry | 有说ä¸æ–‡çš„么　？ |
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| 01:40.49 | clarissa | Dwonis, hmm :/ okay better i .tar them and then i upload them to my mail space :( is easier cause i know how that works |
| 01:40.52 | dvs | jerry: fdkasdfdspfuxcivyxziyfsers |
| 01:41.01 | stwelin | abrotman: okay, i'll give it a go. |
| 01:41.02 | amphi | !confuse jerry |
| 01:41.03 | dpkg | Yes, how are my bacon today, jerry? shirts of the democracy of tibet with extra herring |
| 01:41.10 | zinx | stwelin: there's the resize thing in the lower right corner |
| 01:41.14 | zinx | stwelin: that you can click and drag |
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| 01:41.50 | Dwonis | !cn |
| 01:41.50 | dpkg | it has been said that cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 01:41.53 | zinx | well, move thing i guess |
| 01:42.10 | stwelin | zinx: i like the key+mouse drag because then i do not have to click a small little button somewhere, makes it so much faster |
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| 01:42.31 | stwelin | zinx: plus, it is more precise movement, compared to a 20% scale thumbnail. |
| 01:42.39 | zinx | stwelin: yeah.. i've always had three-button mice.. and many many stuff in *nix uses middle-click + drag to move the view :/ |
| 01:42.46 | zinx | s/many many/a lot of/ |
| 01:43.19 | jerry | what? |
| 01:43.51 | zinx | dpkg's cn factoid is broke |
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| 01:44.09 | zinx | or i'm missing a lot of characters in my font |
| 01:44.24 | Dwonis | zinx: I was wondering if it was Big5 instead of UTF-8 or something |
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| 01:44.34 | stwelin | zinx: i just realized my mouse is still double-bound, my 'middle click' is left+right click. |
| 01:44.41 | Ronin | jerry: having problems? |
| 01:44.53 | zinx | stwelin: still... seems inconvenient to have to hold down both buttons and drag |
| 01:45.00 | dvs | stwelin: well, stop emulate 3 buttons |
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| 01:45.57 | stwelin | dvs: that's not the problem, i want gimp to drag images when i hold space and left-click. |
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| 01:48.19 | stwelin | okay, i am heading to #gimp, thanks for all the help (zinx, amphi, Dwonis) |
| 01:48.24 | Dwonis | heh.. one of my customers just emailed me gzipped zip file... named as .zip, of course |
| 01:48.27 | amphi | stwelin: yw |
| 01:48.34 | Dwonis | stwelin: you're welcome. |
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| 01:50.28 | rotron | Dj Rotron ---> Reggae, The Rootz, dub Live from Acores ----> http://fairytale.wavestreamer.com:8080/listen.pls |
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| 01:50.36 | dvs | ok.... not |
| 01:50.54 | amphi | why would someone do that? |
| 01:51.03 | Ronin | amphi: dropped on thier head as a child |
| 01:51.05 | heh_v_water | this channel spamming thing just start happening in here? |
| 01:51.16 | alindeman | Klined |
| 01:51.16 | Ronin | heh_v_water: on the contrary |
| 01:51.21 | Dwonis | anyone know of an indenter/formatter for PHP code? |
| 01:51.22 | amphi | Ronin: heh |
| 01:52.13 | Ronin | oops pardon me alindeman :) |
| 01:52.32 | alindeman | Heh, np |
| 01:52.44 | abrotman | spamming ? |
| 01:52.49 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:52.49 | sid | Which server software does tetrinet.debian.net use? There are like 5 different softwares available for tetrinet servers. |
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| 01:55.49 | heh_v_water | so with the bootcd thing i couldn't figure out why the machine never had enough memory to build without complaining, i even allocated 2GB to it and it still complained.. now I undertsand, the memory it was talking about was the ramdisk size for the volatile information.. i think this is going to fix my disk is full error finally.. there is like no online documentation for that package at all |
| 01:56.43 | elik__ | Hello, I am trying to configure sound under Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.15. I installed alsa and I still can't hear a thing out of those damn speakers |
| 01:56.55 | heh_v_water | I went to the alioth page and the newsgroup archives are almost empty.. I am guessing most people don't even mess with this package much |
| 01:57.01 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 01:57.01 | dpkg | methinks alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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| 01:59.35 | SerajewelKS | streamripper seems to be ripping for exactly half as long as i ask it to with -l |
| 02:00.01 | SerajewelKS | any explanations for this? |
| 02:00.13 | elik__ | abrotman, ok, #4, I dont realy know how to do that |
| 02:00.40 | abrotman | elik__: ps aux .. see esound/esd/arts ? |
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| 02:01.17 | elik__ | abrotman, neither what it is exactly... trying to figure out at which level all those applications work, but could never sort it out |
| 02:01.31 | SerajewelKS | i bet ti's abrotman's fault! |
| 02:01.43 | SerajewelKS | it* |
| 02:01.48 | SerajewelKS | damn dvorak |
| 02:01.59 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:02.09 | abrotman | elik__: they are sound servers .. they suck |
| 02:02.23 | heh_v_water | hehe |
| 02:02.38 | elik__ | abrotman, yeah, in my opinion, every single sound server suck |
| 02:02.47 | SerajewelKS | elik__: hear hear |
| 02:02.54 | elik__ | abrotman, but, well, I dont see any arts or esd |
| 02:02.59 | abrotman | so go to 5? |
| 02:03.05 | elik__ | abrotman, yeah |
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| 02:03.09 | SerajewelKS | dmix is okay |
| 02:03.13 | elik__ | module is probably not unloaded |
| 02:03.19 | elik__ | as I just installed it |
| 02:03.21 | zinx | dmix sucks, and isn't a sound server |
| 02:03.38 | SerajewelKS | zinx: i know it's not |
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| 02:03.53 | heh_v_water | I would have to agree I've never liked any sound system but i also must admit that using alsa, jackd and ardour is sure impressive |
| 02:04.20 | elik__ | abrotman, did lsmod... dont seem to see any oss |
| 02:04.21 | SerajewelKS | zinx: but it's the only mixer i've used that doesn't /totally/ suck |
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| 02:04.46 | elik__ | abrotman, I see lot of snd stuff |
| 02:04.49 | abrotman | elik__: did you even run alsaconf ? |
| 02:05.07 | elik__ | abrotman, I did as it was number 1 in checklist |
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| 02:05.14 | gteppel_ | How do I perform an outbound port scan with nmap? I'm in a very restrictive network and it looks like only port 80 or 443 is open and I'm curious what else might open... |
| 02:05.16 | SerajewelKS | zinx: everything else either lags sound or rapes the cpu |
| 02:05.18 | m1ke_l | how do i change nic drivers in deb? |
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| 02:05.26 | m1ke_l | drivers=my biggest weakness |
| 02:05.37 | zinx | m1ke_l: ... change? |
| 02:05.43 | SerajewelKS | gteppel_: nmap host-or-ip |
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| 02:05.58 | m1ke_l | debian is using driver1, i want it to use driver2 |
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| 02:06.10 | SerajewelKS | gteppel_: oh, that kind of outbund |
| 02:06.12 | m1ke_l | actualy, module, not driver |
| 02:06.16 | zinx | m1ke_l: what are the actual names of the drivers? |
| 02:06.18 | gteppel_ | SerajewelKS: ya :) |
| 02:06.19 | SerajewelKS | outbound too |
| 02:06.31 | m1ke_l | i can rmmod and modprobe new one, but i loose it at boot |
| 02:06.39 | zinx | m1ke_l: you can blacklist the one you don't want |
| 02:06.44 | jelly-home | m1ke_l: check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 02:06.47 | elik__ | abrotman, just tried the cat redirection and it wont work |
| 02:06.48 | m1ke_l | ok |
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| 02:07.05 | Nexus | dvs, One more question for you. I just installed debian fresh on a new server. What's the easiest way to see the latest stable kernel? I did apt-cache search kernel, and get a massive list |
| 02:07.07 | elik__ | abrotman, when sending directly to /dev/dsp, you overide alsa and use oss, right? |
| 02:07.14 | abrotman | elik__: any error ? |
| 02:07.19 | SerajewelKS | gteppel_: i'm not sure that it directly supports that |
| 02:07.43 | dvs | Nexus: It's 2.6.8 |
| 02:07.47 | gteppel_ | SerajewelKS: are you aware of any programs that may be able to do that? |
| 02:08.01 | elik__ | abrotman, when I cat? |
| 02:08.11 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:08.17 | elik__ | no |
| 02:08.19 | SerajewelKS | gteppel_: but you could open all ports on some external box and nmap it from inside the network |
| 02:08.31 | gteppel_ | SerajewelKS: good idea |
| 02:08.32 | gteppel_ | thanks :) |
| 02:09.07 | elik__ | abrotman, just for info, I am on a laptop and... I suspect those nice sound adjust buttons to be the cause of my frustration |
| 02:09.21 | abrotman | elik__: how old is the laptop ? |
| 02:09.26 | Nexus | dvs, Ok. I think I confused myself because I have been runnint testing in the past and there were a lot more options. |
| 02:09.32 | elik__ | abrotman, less than 2yrs old |
| 02:09.49 | jelly-home | elik__: does the machine hand when using alsa, or what? |
| 02:09.52 | jelly-home | hang |
| 02:09.55 | elik__ | abrotman, using i810 sound driver from what alsaconf showed me |
| 02:10.08 | elik__ | jelly-home, nope |
| 02:10.38 | elik__ | jelly-home, for instance, I use amarok to play a mp3 and it will just continue playing, but I can't hear shit |
| 02:10.44 | elik__ | And, I'm not deaf |
| 02:11.08 | heh_v_water | elik__, maybe try adjusting the mixer settings |
| 02:11.26 | jelly-home | elik__: could it be amarok's fault? |
| 02:11.27 | gteppel_ | SerajewelKS: it worked! |
| 02:11.28 | gteppel_ | thanks |
| 02:11.55 | elik__ | jelly-home, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp wont play... |
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| 02:12.02 | jelly-home | elik__: does it happen if you use alsa's oss compatibility and chose oss in the player too? |
| 02:12.59 | elik__ | heh_v_water, every single slidder is at highest position |
| 02:13.25 | elik__ | jelly-home, even xmms, basic sound recored wont work |
| 02:13.31 | disorder | elik__: and unmuted? |
| 02:13.51 | elik__ | not a single mute check box is marked |
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| 02:14.58 | elik__ | abrotman, what did you think of the laptop sound button that could cause the problem? |
| 02:15.10 | abrotman | sure .. why not |
| 02:15.15 | abrotman | hit the button |
| 02:15.18 | abrotman | NO .. NOT THAT ONE |
| 02:15.21 | abrotman | the other one |
| 02:15.22 | abrotman | jeez |
| 02:15.23 | jelly-home | elik__: does it work ever (after reboot or rmmod/modprobe, for example)? |
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| 02:15.53 | elik__ | abrotman, I did hit THE button (s) and still cant hear shit |
| 02:16.34 | jelly-home | elik__: pretend it was completely silenced and push volume-up a lot of times, dunno. |
| 02:16.37 | elik__ | arent those controled by acpi bus? does that require drivers? |
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| 02:16.49 | abrotman | elik__: paste the contents of lsmod somewhere |
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| 02:16.59 | elik__ | !paste |
| 02:16.59 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 02:17.12 | jelly-home | elik__: they sometimes just work. Obviously not in your case. |
| 02:17.15 | elik__ | I know bitch, just wanted the address |
| 02:17.35 | VolVE | Anybody got any idea why installing Munin on one box would make perfectly normal looking graphs, while on another all the graph text is anti-aliased and the "Max" count is pushed down to a new line? :-/ |
| 02:17.54 | elik__ | jelly-home, well, maybe the work, but if they go from 0% sound to 0% sound, it makes no difference |
| 02:19.07 | elik__ | abrotman, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3111 |
| 02:19.24 | jelly-home | elik__: maybe the bios/hardware has a separate state where it thinks the previous volume was very low, so if you push either volume + or volume - it'll still be very low. |
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| 02:20.20 | elik__ | jelly-home, very low would still make more noise than total silence |
| 02:20.20 | jelly-home | elik__: it was like that on my old compaq, so I had to press volume up a lot of times to get to a decent volume level. |
| 02:20.25 | abrotman | looks fine to me |
| 02:20.59 | elik__ | sound has ALWAYS cause me troubles :( |
| 02:21.20 | elik__ | I guess I'll just install windows, screw up my boot sector just to see if it can work |
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| 02:21.29 | elik__ | maybe a little look around the bios |
| 02:22.27 | elik__ | !beer abrotman |
| 02:22.29 | jelly-home | I suppose googling for Linux and your model didn't help? |
| 02:22.36 | elik__ | !coffee jelly-home |
| 02:22.53 | abrotman | elik__: huh? |
| 02:23.00 | elik__ | jelly-home, only think I found for this laptop was ubuntu |
| 02:23.01 | Ronin | dpkg: got any kona coffee? :) |
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| 02:23.09 | abrotman | elik__: that's kind of silly |
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| 02:23.20 | abrotman | elik__: 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? |
| 02:23.24 | elik__ | abrotman, the beer? |
| 02:23.26 | elik__ | 2.6 |
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| 02:23.42 | abrotman | elik__: modprobe -r snd |
| 02:23.55 | sid | I am trying to setup a tetrinet server; with non-root account; tetrinetx has one dependency(libadns); I setup libdns like this... "./configure --prefix=~/libadns; make; make install;" now when I go to compile tetrinetx; there is one script to compile tetrinetx; called "compile.linux" |
| 02:23.56 | sid | compile.linux is located here --> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Wdcp5U41.html # How do I modify compile.linux so it finds the libadns directory and works? here is what i get from "ls ~/libdns" ... this -> "bin include lib" |
| 02:24.10 | jelly-home | elik__: it doesn't matter. There might be additional parameters to drivers that make them work. |
| 02:24.14 | elik__ | jelly-home, and as usual, everything works perfectly blah blah blah |
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| 02:24.29 | jelly-home | elik__: so install ubuntu <grin> |
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| 02:24.59 | elik__ | jelly-home, that's dangerous sayint that here :P |
| 02:25.02 | abrotman | remove every freaking *snd* module .. run alsaconf .. and reboot |
| 02:25.16 | elik__ | abrotman, already in use |
| 02:25.21 | jelly-home | or just their kernel, and hope for the best. |
| 02:25.37 | abrotman | elik__: remove them as you can .. |
| 02:25.43 | elik__ | am not realy up for that kind of "gymnastic" |
| 02:26.05 | elik__ | abrotman, how can I remove modules? |
| 02:26.15 | heh_v_water | rmmod |
| 02:26.16 | elik__ | abrotman, killing the program running it? |
| 02:26.18 | elik__ | thx |
| 02:26.51 | abrotman | modprobe -r |
| 02:27.00 | abrotman | elik__: wait .. do you have a browser running ? |
| 02:27.10 | elik__ | yeah, but nothing open in it |
| 02:27.16 | elik__ | that might be trying to play sound |
| 02:27.17 | abrotman | close it |
| 02:27.20 | abrotman | flash sucks |
| 02:27.36 | elik__ | yeah, I know |
| 02:27.41 | jelly-home | elik__: do you have flash plugin installed? |
| 02:27.49 | elik__ | yeah |
| 02:27.52 | jelly-home | ah |
| 02:28.12 | jelly-home | that plugin keeps the device opened. |
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| 02:28.19 | jelly-home | usually |
| 02:28.21 | elik__ | well, pluging should still be showing while doing fuser /dev/dsp |
| 02:28.31 | heh_v_water | you know I gotta give some of you huge kudos (abrotman, nvz, Ronin, others) for sitting in here day after day running through the same problems with different users over and over for little in return.. |
| 02:28.37 | jelly-home | true that |
| 02:28.41 | abrotman | little in return ? |
| 02:28.53 | abrotman | nerp .. not a damn thing :) |
| 02:29.05 | heh_v_water | yes the littl return is another happy debian user when things succeed |
| 02:29.09 | abrotman | oh yeah ... |
| 02:29.11 | jelly-home | abrotman: what abour world fame? |
| 02:29.30 | abrotman | jelly-home: have you told your mom about me? |
| 02:29.39 | heh_v_water | ha! |
| 02:29.46 | jelly-home | abrotman: she's not your type. |
| 02:29.58 | abrotman | jelly-home: if she doesn't know about me .. my fame has not gone far enough! |
| 02:30.14 | heh_v_water | her not knowing of abrotman won't make him famous any faster.. ;) |
| 02:30.20 | heh_v_water | sorry lol |
| 02:30.22 | jelly-home | !win abrotman |
| 02:30.23 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 02:30.42 | elik__ | !karma abrotman |
| 02:30.42 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 17 |
| 02:30.47 | elik__ | !!! woah |
| 02:30.57 | abrotman | that's not really that much |
| 02:31.00 | abrotman | !karma bob2 |
| 02:31.00 | dpkg | bob2 has karma of 1 |
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| 02:31.02 | abrotman | eh .. |
| 02:31.06 | abrotman | !karma greycat |
| 02:31.06 | dpkg | greycat has karma of 48 |
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| 02:31.14 | abrotman | bob2 should have way more |
| 02:31.23 | abrotman | though .. i don't know where mine came from |
| 02:31.28 | elik__ | how are those awarded? |
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| 02:31.34 | Dino_ | I am having a serious X problem all of a sudden. |
| 02:31.38 | abrotman | no formula .. someone just gives it to you |
| 02:31.42 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 02:31.49 | heh_v_water | "bot toy" |
| 02:31.49 | Dino_ | Can only start X as root. |
| 02:31.50 | jelly-home | elik__: nick++ |
| 02:31.59 | elik__ | abrotman++ |
| 02:32.04 | Ronin | Dino_: seriously? |
| 02:32.08 | Dino_ | Doesn't matter how many times I tell it console-users or anyone in dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 02:32.13 | abrotman | Dino_: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 02:32.17 | jelly-home | hmm |
| 02:32.20 | Dino_ | abrotman: Doesn't work |
| 02:32.22 | elik__ | !karma abrotman |
| 02:32.22 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 17 |
| 02:32.34 | sussudio | !karma whore |
| 02:32.34 | dpkg | whore has neutral karma |
| 02:32.40 | abrotman | Dino_: what's the error from /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:32.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:32.47 | jelly-home | jelly-home++ |
| 02:32.48 | abrotman | !karma sussudio |
| 02:32.48 | dpkg | sussudio has karma of 2 |
| 02:32.57 | Dino_ | "unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config" |
| 02:33.03 | Dino_ | that file does not exist |
| 02:33.24 | Dino_ | And then you know "user not authorized to run X server" |
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| 02:33.52 | swim | I accidentally deleted /var/apt/archives dir, and now I cant install anything because it says that it cant lock the db now |
| 02:33.54 | abrotman | the fix up to this point has been to dpkg-reconfigure x11-common .. but it totally fails for you ? |
| 02:34.10 | Dino_ | Er, sorry, that was error back to the shell. I'm actually in X as root now. I imagine I'd have to get out of here and try again as regular user. |
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| 02:34.27 | Dino_ | abrotman: Yeah, this is what I found with web searches. That the conventional fix for this is not doing anything for me. |
| 02:34.36 | Soeki_real | does anyone knows the name of the iconv package for sarge? |
| 02:34.39 | abrotman | Dino_: are you out of X when you're doing this ? |
| 02:34.43 | abrotman | !find iconv sarge |
| 02:34.43 | Soeki_real | !iconv |
| 02:34.44 | dpkg | it has been said that iconv is program that converts encoding of given files from one encoding to another. |
| 02:34.44 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'iconv' (10): libiconv-hook-dev ;; libiconv-hook1 ;; libiconv-ruby ;; libiconv-ruby1.6 ;; libpsiconv-dev ;; libpsiconv5 ;; libtext-iconv-perl ;; python2.1-iconvcodec ;; python2.2-iconvcodec ;; python2.3-iconvcodec. |
| 02:34.59 | abrotman | !find bin/iconv sarge |
| 02:35.01 | Dino_ | abrotman: I have been totally out of X when trying this, yes. Meaning no X running, not this root one. |
| 02:35.10 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/iconv' (1): (/usr/bin/iconv, /usr/sbin/iconvconfig) in base/libc6. |
| 02:35.31 | swim | can anyone help please: I accidentally deleted /var/apt/archives dir, and now I cant install anything because it says that it cant lock the db now |
| 02:35.32 | Soeki_real | so its already there? |
| 02:35.34 | Soeki_real | good. |
| 02:35.49 | abrotman | swim: make the directory again? |
| 02:35.51 | Seb | "mount: could not find any free loop device": but right now my system is not mounting anything as a loopback device |
| 02:35.56 | Seb | and I'd rather not reboot |
| 02:36.02 | Seb | any ideas ? |
| 02:36.03 | swim | abrotman: yes I did |
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| 02:36.29 | abrotman | it's not /var/apt/archives |
| 02:36.32 | Dino_ | So, there's supposed to be an /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config? |
| 02:36.42 | Seb | /var/cache/apt/archives it us |
| 02:36.44 | Seb | s/us/is/ |
| 02:36.47 | abrotman | i have one |
| 02:37.07 | swim | Seb right thats what I meant |
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| 02:37.47 | Seb | swim: then you must have deleted something. I don't think the db is in /var/cache anyway. |
| 02:37.54 | Seb | something *else*, I mean |
| 02:38.06 | jelly-home | swim: mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial |
| 02:38.20 | swim | Seb all I deleted was that dir... and all the deb files in it |
| 02:38.36 | Nexus | So I have a new install, and I'm trying to install mysql-server-5.0 from dotdeb.org. I've got apt.conf with stable as the default. When I go to install mysql-server-5.0 it throws dependency fits. Why doesn't it install the dependencies from dotdeb? |
| 02:38.38 | Dino_ | Ok, I'm going to pull that file from last month's backup. I had a bad feeling this was dire. Thanks for your help. |
| 02:38.58 | abrotman | Dino_: i don't think it is |
| 02:39.06 | Dino_ | Not dire? |
| 02:39.08 | abrotman | Dino_: the file doesn't exist ? |
| 02:39.16 | Dino_ | That's right, that file doesn't exist. |
| 02:39.26 | Dino_ | My apt-get dist-upgrade is all zeroes across the board. |
| 02:39.35 | swim | that worked thanks jelly-home |
| 02:39.37 | Dino_ | Supposed to be fresh and happy. This is testing, NOT unstable. |
| 02:39.42 | abrotman | Dino_: i can give you mine :) |
| 02:40.13 | Dino_ | I think the whole moving up to xorg has some wrinkles. |
| 02:40.21 | abrotman | it does |
| 02:40.25 | abrotman | it's a big step |
| 02:40.45 | Dino_ | I have this irc running on a separate server, I'll be back if I need that file. Thanks again. |
| 02:40.57 | abrotman | Dino_: it's like two lines |
| 02:41.59 | tuv | why isn't openoffice writer's spell checker working? and how to make it work? |
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| 02:43.17 | Dino_ | back |
| 02:43.17 | abrotman | tuv: maybe you spelled everything correctly? |
| 02:43.32 | Dino_ | It worked, I pulled the file from two-weeks-ago DVD backup. Didn't know it was just a couple of lines. |
| 02:43.38 | lunitik | tuv: aptitude show openoffice.org <-- theres a -dictionary or something listed |
| 02:43.44 | tuv | abrotman, is helo a correct work? and is "dfd"? |
| 02:43.51 | cafuego | from presented evidence, at the least the capitalisation is probably wrong. |
| 02:43.59 | abrotman | tuv: are you using the SMTP dictionary? |
| 02:44.09 | abrotman | cafuego: hehe |
| 02:44.22 | tuv | abrotman, does recognize dfd too? |
| 02:44.31 | abrotman | nfc |
| 02:44.34 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 02:44.55 | heh_v_water | finally after a week and a half, building over 50 iso images I got what I wanted.. Debian/Linux is once again my buddy :\ |
| 02:45.10 | abrotman | dude .. you did it the hard way |
| 02:45.14 | Dino_ | Looks like that was the info that dpkg-reconfigure x11-common was supposed to write out. It's the two questions it asks. I wonder why it's unable to. |
| 02:45.44 | heh_v_water | well I dunno about easy or hard but I got it down now |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | you could file a bug |
| 02:45.51 | abrotman | i'm not sure it's supposed to create that file though |
| 02:46.02 | Dino_ | Yeah, I think I had better. Something should either make it or leave one there. |
| 02:46.12 | heh_v_water | plus all them broken images I deleted, they worked I just had a setting wrong in bottcdwrite.conf |
| 02:46.28 | abrotman | good job |
| 02:46.29 | Dino_ | This was an already running system of 1 year. Recently doing big-ass dist-upgrade stuff. |
| 02:46.41 | heh_v_water | btw what is the easy way.. lol |
| 02:47.01 | tuv | lunitik, there is no openoffice*-dictionary here, but openoffice.org package suggests myspell dictionaries which are installed on my system |
| 02:47.09 | abrotman | heh_v_water: three floppies |
| 02:47.15 | lunitik | tuv: grrr... myspell-dictionary :/ |
| 02:47.40 | abrotman | used to be easier with two floppies |
| 02:47.56 | heh_v_water | abrotman, I dont think this would fit on three floppies.. |
| 02:48.13 | lunitik | tuv: I didn't say openoffice.org-dictionary ... I said -dictionary ... because I didn't remember the *spell it used... |
| 02:48.35 | tuv | lunitik, i don't have that one either.. i just have libmyspell3c2 and myspell language packages |
| 02:48.46 | abrotman | heh_v_water: i've done installs of sarge with three floppies |
| 02:48.55 | lunitik | tuv: ... umm... then get it? |
| 02:49.06 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 02:49.08 | tuv | lunitik, not in the list of all packages! |
| 02:49.11 | abrotman | i should go read |
| 02:49.13 | lunitik | tuv: I think myspell-dictionary depends myspell-locale though |
| 02:49.20 | heh_v_water | abrotman, me too, just did about three weeks ago, this isn't an install disk, this is a Live cd build directly from debian.. runs like knoppix but it's alllll Debian |
| 02:49.28 | abrotman | freak |
| 02:49.39 | heh_v_water | :D |
| 02:49.50 | lunitik | tuv: I use KOffice... not only does it not take 10 secs to load... spell checking works *g* |
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| 02:50.04 | subvertir | man, koffice sucks. |
| 02:50.24 | Dino_ | You know, Xwrapper.config says it updated by upgrades to xserver-common. That is currently a broken package, it's telling me. won't even force it. |
| 02:50.31 | lunitik | subvertir: for basic tasks... it beats loading the monster that is openoffice :/ |
| 02:50.33 | tuv | lunitik, all myspell packages i have listed (whether installed or not) are libmyspell3c2, libmyspell-dev, and the language packages: myspell-* |
| 02:50.55 | subvertir | lunitik, hahaha yeah but, damn, "sucks less than openoffice" |
| 02:51.05 | lunitik | tuv: you have myspell-en or something installed? |
| 02:51.07 | subvertir | That's not a metric for success |
| 02:51.25 | tuv | lunitik, yes, en-us and en-gb |
| 02:51.29 | lunitik | subvertir: what do you use? Abiword and friends? |
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| 02:51.47 | lunitik | tuv: that should work... idk... ask OO.o users |
| 02:51.54 | subvertir | I've managed to completely phase office suite usage out of my job responsibilities |
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| 02:52.15 | tuv | lunitik, where do find them? |
| 02:52.23 | lunitik | subvertir: neat, must be an important possition |
| 02:52.29 | Edwin_Quijada | where apache-ssl store this pages? |
| 02:52.30 | lunitik | tuv: in the archive |
| 02:52.35 | lunitik | tuv: aptitude search myspell |
| 02:52.58 | lunitik | tuv: or openoffice.org users? #openoffice.org probably |
| 02:53.15 | tuv | lunitik, i was about to look for users in the archive :) |
| 02:53.16 | Edwin_Quijada | i installed apache and apache-ssl but i dont know where it puts the ssl page |
| 02:53.17 | subvertir | Not really...with the exception of the word processor, most of the time people just use office suites because they don't know any better |
| 02:53.28 | Dino_ | Thanks again you guys. |
| 02:53.35 | Edwin_Quijada | the normal use /var/www |
| 02:54.06 | Nexus | If I want to get one package from a apt source and that package only, what kind of pinning line do I need? |
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| 02:54.17 | lunitik | tuv: with myspell-en installed... it should work though... |
| 02:54.49 | tuv | lunitik, that's why i'm asking.. it should but it's not |
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| 02:55.46 | subvertir | When I first started at my position we had a huge excel spreadsheet filled with product information, that's all in a postgresql db now, and there are tons of examples in this vein |
| 02:56.20 | subvertir | Our copywriters are now using tinymce pretty much exclusively instead of Word |
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| 02:57.02 | lunitik | subvertir: Kexi seemed pretty nice to me? |
| 02:57.26 | subvertir | but for what? what would you use kexi for? |
| 02:57.38 | lunitik | subvertir: although granted I've never used it with a large database |
| 02:58.33 | lunitik | subvertir: its like MS Access or whatever |
| 02:59.47 | subvertir | I think Kexi and MS Access are both outdated |
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| 03:00.03 | Nexus | What is the best way to move user accounts from one server to another? cp /etc/passwd? |
| 03:00.11 | lunitik | subvertir: care to elaborate? |
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| 03:00.49 | subvertir | lunitik with modern MVC frameworks (catalyst, django, ruby on rails), you can bang out custom applications in days |
| 03:01.02 | subvertir | and having an application built for your business beats the shit out of building your business around an application |
| 03:01.04 | tuv | lunitik, ok.. it turned out i have to have my language setup to exactly the same language of the dictionary. i was using "English (Canada)". changed it to usa and it's working now :) |
| 03:01.45 | lunitik | subvertir: true I suppose, if you have programmers on board... |
| 03:01.56 | subvertir | programmers are rapidly becoming a commodity |
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| 03:04.26 | subvertir | lunitik, Well, my approach involves me getting paid to sit at the house, get drunk, and write database schemas, so that's what I do =) |
| 03:04.37 | lunitik | Things like KWord, Krita, KPresenter ... basic, but good enough... |
| 03:05.10 | lunitik | subvertir: your plan is better than mine, yes |
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| 03:07.30 | tuv | lunitik, i personally use gedit.. i needed openoffice for my wife.. she's new to linux and used to word, so.. |
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| 03:08.59 | bjron | anyone here know how to rip audio directly from an iso image of the cd w/o burning it first? |
| 03:09.09 | tuv | lunitik, asciidoc produces nice html/rtf/pdf files out of simple ascii files |
| 03:09.15 | simonrvn | mount it, then rip? |
| 03:09.34 | lunitik | bjron: there are many... kaudiocreator and sound-juicer come to mind for instance |
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| 03:09.38 | bjron | simonrvn, but as far as I can tell you can't mount an audio image, cause there's no filesystem |
| 03:09.45 | lunitik | bjron: both use cdparanoia |
| 03:10.06 | tuv | bjron, perhaps mplayer can do that right from the iso.. it does with bin and dvd iso, haven't tried with audio iso though |
| 03:10.09 | simonrvn | no, that's true, but that ^^ could work maybe |
| 03:10.35 | bjron | tuv, ah, yea that's a good idea thanks |
| 03:10.54 | bjron | simonrvn, if I could get it to mount maybe :D just tells me wrong fs type though |
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| 03:11.05 | disorder | it's not ISO but raw image |
| 03:11.08 | simonrvn | i mean without mounting it |
| 03:11.09 | lunitik | tuv: wouldn't mplayer use cdparanoia too? |
| 03:11.34 | tuv | lunitik, i don't know what mplayer uses, but if it can't play it, nothing else will :) |
| 03:12.19 | stew | bjron: if its an iso, its mountable with -o loop |
| 03:13.00 | lunitik | tuv: you mean if win32codecs-all can't play it, nothing will... |
| 03:13.07 | bjron | stew, but what do I specify as the filesystem type? |
| 03:13.19 | stew | bjron: -t iso9660 |
| 03:13.24 | lunitik | tuv: and he's not asking about playing, he wants to rip something |
| 03:13.29 | disorder | ISO can't handle audio tracks |
| 03:13.38 | lunitik | stew: for an audio cd? |
| 03:13.38 | stew | disorder: why not? |
| 03:13.47 | tuv | lunitik, no.. if mplayer can't play it, nothing will.. mplayer can work around broken files regardless of the codecs |
| 03:13.49 | stew | lunitik: no for an iso |
| 03:13.49 | bjron | stew, it's not, for an audio cd |
| 03:13.59 | disorder | iso can handle only one data track |
| 03:14.03 | lunitik | stew: you're not supposed to mount audio cd's |
| 03:14.05 | disorder | 2048B sectors |
| 03:14.09 | stew | < bjron> anyone here know how to rip audio directly from an iso image |
| 03:14.20 | tuv | lunitik, well if mplayer can't play the "iso", then nothing can rip it because it is not playable |
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| 03:14.44 | bjron | sorry, I should have specified, rip directly from an iso image of an audio cd |
| 03:14.51 | disorder | audio tracks use whole 2352B sectors (no error correction) |
| 03:15.00 | stew | bjron: if its an iso image, you mount it |
| 03:15.17 | stoned | I like mounting |
| 03:15.19 | stoned | its fun |
| 03:15.27 | stoned | im about ot mount a big mac and fries |
| 03:15.28 | stoned | :D |
| 03:15.38 | lunitik | !geek sex |
| 03:15.38 | dpkg | inconthievable! |
| 03:15.39 | bjron | stew, ok, perhaps it's not an iso? (nautilus->copy disk->to file) |
| 03:15.52 | lunitik | umm? |
| 03:15.55 | stew | bjron: what does "file /path/to/file" say it is? |
| 03:15.57 | lunitik | !nerd sex ? |
| 03:15.57 | dpkg | hmm... nerd sex is thing that will never happen |
| 03:15.59 | tuv | how can i allow a regular user to mount ISOs? it says only root can do that |
| 03:16.04 | lunitik | blah... stupid bot |
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| 03:16.18 | bjron | stew, data |
| 03:16.27 | stew | tuv: add an entry to fstab with the "user" option |
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| 03:17.01 | stew | bjron: its not an iso then |
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| 03:17.30 | tuv | stew, what do i put in the first column? (instead of /dev/hda1) |
| 03:17.30 | bjron | stew, ah, so then what should I call it? |
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| 03:18.17 | lunitik | tuv: umm... where is the cdrom drive connected physically? |
| 03:18.18 | disorder | bjron: you can try this http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:18.58 | tuv | lunitik, i want to be able to mount iso images as a regular user, so there is no drive and the iso will have a different name each time |
| 03:19.21 | lunitik | tuv: /dev/hdsomething (a=primary master b=primary slave c=secondary master d=secondary slave) |
| 03:19.25 | stew | tuv: whatever you want to mount |
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| 03:20.07 | tuv | stew, so i need to edit /etd/fstab each time i want to mount an iso as a regular user?!! |
| 03:20.09 | lunitik | tuv: you want something like mount -o user -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/foo |
| 03:20.27 | stew | bjron: i don't know |
| 03:20.48 | stew | lunitik: -o user? |
| 03:20.49 | tuv | lunitik, no.. no /dev/XYZ.. i want to mount an iso file using -o loop as a regular user |
| 03:20.55 | stew | tuv: yes, afaik |
| 03:21.16 | bjron | stew, looking into cdemu, thanks for the suggestion |
| 03:21.18 | tuv | stew, that's pointless.. i'd rather mount it as a user |
| 03:21.20 | stew | tuv: unless maybe you have root run losetup, then user can mount /dev/loop0 or something |
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| 03:22.37 | tuv | s/user/root |
| 03:23.31 | lunitik | stew: man mount ... under -o ... user= Allow an ordinary user to mount the file system ... also users= allow every user to mount the file system... |
| 03:23.39 | cplx | How do I change a glue record? |
| 03:23.40 | lunitik | stew: maybe I meant users... |
| 03:23.42 | cplx | (DNS) |
| 03:24.37 | stew | lunitik: right, but i don't know if i see the point of "mount -o user foo bar" in order to give users the ability to mount it, becuase you have to be root to run that command in the first place, and then its already mounted |
| 03:24.58 | stew | cplx: you ask your registrar to |
| 03:25.10 | tuv | stew, will look into losetup.. thanks |
| 03:25.47 | lunitik | tuv: ok... then mount -o loop -t iso9660 /where/iso/is /where/to/mount |
| 03:26.08 | lunitik | stew: true enough, I guess that option should only be used in fstab? |
| 03:26.34 | stew | lunitik: i'd guess however that it would let users umount? |
| 03:26.43 | tuv | lunitik, you are not following the coversation. i want to do that as a regular user and not as root. this is my initial question |
| 03:26.56 | lunitik | stew: should, yes... but rather pointless if you still have to mount as user |
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| 03:27.25 | stew | tuv: there is, of course sudo, or (cringe) suid |
| 03:28.05 | tuv | stew, suid mount? is this a good practice? |
| 03:28.14 | stew | tuv: no |
| 03:28.57 | stew | or right it is already suid |
| 03:29.05 | stew | lunitik: so that users can mount things with the user option |
| 03:29.25 | stew | tuv: so you'd have to use sudo, or a suid script. but a suid script is very dangerous |
| 03:30.20 | tuv | hmm.. looks like mount manages its security on its own.. being suid |
| 03:30.24 | stew | tuv: the danger being that anyone with the ability to mount is able to do things like mount a loopback iso that they downloaded to your machine on top of your /bin or /usr/bin directory, thus replacing commands like ps,ls,netstat... |
| 03:31.10 | lunitik | stew: I thought you could mount things that you have permissions for though? /dev/hdc (cdrom drive) should be owned by group disks for instance... supposedly this iso is owned by him, so why wouldn't it be possible to mount it? |
| 03:31.29 | stew | lunitik: no, only root can mount (becuase of the vulnerability i just spoke of) |
| 03:31.52 | subvertir | Where are facilities to automatically mount removable media |
| 03:31.58 | subvertir | s/Where/There/ |
| 03:31.59 | stew | subvertir: pmount |
| 03:32.08 | lunitik | stew: wait, since when did mount allow for mounting into a dir that has stuff in it? |
| 03:32.14 | stew | subvertir: which is maybe in the plugdev package |
| 03:32.27 | Coweater | lunitik: since forever |
| 03:32.35 | subvertir | stew, yeah, I was just saying that such facilities exist |
| 03:32.58 | stew | lunitik: since always, since the 2.4 kernel you can mount a filesystem to a mountpoint that already has a filesystem mounted there even |
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| 03:34.08 | lunitik | That is probably what should be fixed though, not mounting only being a root priv |
| 03:34.17 | stew | lunitik: its fixed, there is a user option |
| 03:35.12 | lunitik | stew: fix apparently is not good for mounting loopbacks though, so its not really fixed imo |
| 03:35.23 | stew | lunitik: then there is sudo |
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| 03:35.43 | stew | lunitik: but wait, why are loopbacks any different than any other filesystem? |
| 03:36.18 | amphi | lunitik: use the hurd ;) |
| 03:36.26 | lunitik | stew: as you said earlier, you need root to set user option... |
| 03:36.32 | predder | !artsd |
| 03:36.32 | dpkg | [artsd] the much maligned soundserver of the much maligned analog Real time synthesizer |
| 03:36.51 | stew | lunitik: yes, this is called security, not bugs |
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| 03:37.48 | lunitik | amphi: I need to try it again actually, they ever get the linux modules interface working? |
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| 03:41.36 | predder | Can anyone explain why I have an artsd process open using 75mb of vm and another using the same amount that starts and stops itself from time to time? |
| 03:42.07 | simonrvn | one is blocking the other is my first thought, and the other is wedged or something |
| 03:43.56 | predder | recommended course of action? kill both? reboot? |
| 03:44.43 | simonrvn | kill the fat one |
| 03:44.59 | simonrvn | try with -2 (signal 2) first |
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| 03:45.59 | amphi | lunitik: not that I'm awareof, but I haven't had a hurd install for a while |
| 03:46.00 | litage | simonrvn: what does "wedged" mean/ |
| 03:46.11 | simonrvn | !wedged |
| 03:46.35 | simonrvn | stuck in its current state, could be using 100% cpu or close |
| 03:46.48 | lunitik | simonrvn: ahh... you use hurd right? or was that tarzeau |
| 03:47.34 | simonrvn | no |
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| 03:48.44 | sid | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/L61pLS30.html |
| 03:49.05 | sid | hmm, why doesn't the binary know the library is in ../../libadns ? |
| 03:49.24 | sid | gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -I../../libadns/include -L../../libadns/lib -ladns main.c -o ../bin/tetrix.linux |
| 03:49.35 | sid | Doesn't my "-L../../libadns/lib" tell it that? |
| 03:51.28 | amphi | lunitik: tarzeau used to, IIRC |
| 03:52.27 | lunitik | TARZEAU: you use hurd? any idea if they finally got linux modules functional? |
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| 03:56.26 | alexbodn | hello, does anybody use apt-ftparchive? |
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| 04:11.36 | bil0xx | alguien habla español en esta mierda? |
| 04:12.09 | lunitik | !es |
| 04:12.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:16.54 | rockstar_ | I'm trying to build the e17 libraries into deb files. I do a dpkg-reconfigure -rfakeroot and it says "Unable to determine source package" Anyone have any ideas? |
| 04:17.00 | rockstar_ | There is a debian/rules file |
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| 04:23.28 | Cornellius | I need to know which book is the best to learn Linux |
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| 04:26.51 | sigma957 | Cornellius: there are free books online, there is a Debian manual, the Rutebook, just google debian manual |
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| 04:27.23 | stoned | !tell Cornellius -about grounding |
| 04:28.15 | alexbodn | are you using apt-ftparchive? |
| 04:28.25 | simonrvn | !tell alexbodn about ask |
| 04:30.08 | burd_tu | is there a way to make a user log in at boot auto? not with a DM but in the console |
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| 04:30.58 | alexbodn | i am extending mini-dinstall to support newer debian repositories, and generating a configuration file for apt-ftparchive, modeled after examples on the net, but it unfortunately doesn't work. |
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| 04:32.55 | simonrvn | probably hasn't been updated for DiffIndex yet? *shrug* |
| 04:33.01 | simonrvn | er, pdiff |
| 04:33.03 | fando | hi, I'm looking for a pragmatic command line English dictionary program... anyone know a good one? |
| 04:33.13 | fando | something that can do regexes maybe |
| 04:34.02 | alexbodn | of course no diffindex / pdiff, but it's trying to manage a decent standard repository |
| 04:35.39 | fando | oh good ol dict |
| 04:35.49 | alexbodn | it's not original mini-dinstall. i have patched it a bit. but it generates apt-ftparchive.conf, to be generally compatible. |
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| 04:37.45 | simonrvn | *nods* |
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| 04:43.09 | alexbodn | simonrvn: ? |
| 04:43.11 | Kilopopo | hi |
| 04:43.28 | Kilopopo | everytime i install a package with aptitude i get stalled waiting for headers |
| 04:43.43 | rockstar_ | sudo debootstrap --variant=amd64 sid /path/to/debian -- This isn't working, anyone have any ideas? |
| 04:44.16 | alexbodn | Kilopopo: patience, even retry a few times. |
| 04:44.45 | Kilopopo | alexbodn: how do i install all of gnome packages |
| 04:44.56 | alexbodn | a moment |
| 04:45.00 | Kilopopo | i have the cd 2 package cds but it still connect to the net for installtion |
| 04:45.10 | Kilopopo | how do i do it from the cd 2 package cd |
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| 04:47.09 | alexbodn | you have to configure /etc/apt/sources.list to have a cdrom source. man sources.list |
| 04:48.35 | Kilopopo | ok it is in there |
| 04:48.44 | sid | !tell rockstar_ about bts |
| 04:48.45 | Kilopopo | now how do i make it so that it installs gnome |
| 04:48.50 | sid | !tell rockstar_ about unstable |
| 04:50.19 | alexbodn | you should apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, to install gnome and a lot of related packages |
| 04:50.53 | Kilopopo | alexbodn: it says couldnt find that package |
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| 04:51.55 | fantomas | Hi. I want to recomile a debian package and got its sources using apt-get source package. What command recompiles it and outputs .deb? |
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| 04:52.47 | lunitik | fantomas: man dpkg-deb |
| 04:53.23 | alexbodn | Kilopopo: you have to run aptitude update first. |
| 04:53.55 | alexbodn | i would suggest you have both the cd and the network sources in the list |
| 04:54.37 | alexbodn | bye for now, good luck! |
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| 04:54.45 | rockstar_ | sid, what's with the dpkg swamp? |
| 04:55.31 | Kilopopo | whooh |
| 04:55.32 | Kilopopo | finaly |
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| 04:55.54 | TARZEAU | apt popcon |
| 04:55.55 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 04:56.07 | TARZEAU | lunitik: yes? no sound card drivers still |
| 04:56.16 | TARZEAU | lunitik: they port network driveers like that from linux source |
| 04:56.41 | lunitik | TARZEAU: ahh... working on soundcards in the same mannor though? |
| 04:57.02 | lunitik | TARZEAU: would be nice if they didn't have to reinvent the wheel wrt drivers |
| 04:57.05 | fantomas | lunitik: is dpkg-deb for compiling? |
| 04:57.16 | lunitik | fantomas: did you read its man page? |
| 04:57.32 | TARZEAU | lunitik: no they don't have sound |
| 04:57.45 | TARZEAU | lunitik: well it's a bit more than that |
| 04:58.21 | fantomas | lunitik: yes, nothing about compilation |
| 04:58.26 | fantomas | lunitik: did you read it? |
| 04:58.36 | lunitik | fantomas: what do you think 'build' referes to? |
| 04:59.18 | rockstar_ | What's the command to create a debian/changelog file? I'm trying to package some deb files |
| 04:59.27 | TARZEAU | rockstar_: dh_make? dchi? |
| 04:59.44 | fantomas | lunitik: I tried it. It doesn' |
| 04:59.48 | fantomas | do what I need |
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| 05:00.06 | Kilopopo | whats a good site that has official debian sources |
| 05:00.13 | Kilopopo | so that i can update my source.list |
| 05:00.16 | rockstar_ | TARZEAU, it's like dpkg-parsechangelog |
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| 05:00.20 | fantomas | lunitik: for example it wants DEBIAN subdir while there is no DEBIAN subdir in what I got via apt-get source. |
| 05:00.25 | rockstar_ | But I don't remember the details of it. |
| 05:01.29 | fantomas | lunitik: I just hoped building debian package from debianized source is a matter of _single_ command |
| 05:01.56 | evilgeek | 'apt-get doit'? |
| 05:02.39 | fantomas | evilgeek: any other ideas? |
| 05:02.52 | evilgeek | i was kidding, you. |
| 05:02.55 | evilgeek | s/you/yo/p |
| 05:02.59 | fantomas | evilgeek: really? |
| 05:03.08 | lunitik | fantomas: aptitude show debhelper ... also dh-make - as TARZEAU said... |
| 05:03.13 | evilgeek | i don't think there is. i think you have to actuall untar the source, then run make or some such. |
| 05:03.17 | lunitik | (although wasn't directed at you) |
| 05:03.32 | fantomas | lunitik: oh, I missed it. Thanks. |
| 05:03.45 | lunitik | fantomas: actually, aptitude install dh-make ... which depends debhelper |
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| 05:04.15 | fantomas | evilgeek: that is not debian way |
| 05:07.07 | lunitik | fantomas: theoretically though, if you got a .deb source, you should have been able to just dpkg-deb -b foo afaik |
| 05:07.25 | lunitik | fantomas: you're just missing things, hence dh-make and friends |
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| 05:14.24 | fantomas | lunitik: sorry, I didn't understand your last phrase |
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| 05:14.57 | fantomas | lunitik: I'm not english native, you know, sometimes I experience communication troubles :) |
| 05:16.00 | fantomas | lunitik: according to man dpkg-deb there must be uppercase DEBIAN dir, while in extracted .deb source I see lowercase debian one |
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| 05:20.00 | rockstar_ | When trying to create debs from source, I get /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied Anyone experienced this before? |
| 05:21.31 | simonrvn | chmod +x debian/rules |
| 05:22.13 | rockstar_ | simonrvn, Holy crap, that was it? I'm an idiot... |
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| 05:23.06 | simonrvn | the rules file is a basically a Makefile run like a make script |
| 05:23.20 | simonrvn | look at the hash bang at the top |
| 05:24.15 | grendal_prime | i got testing running on an old pent 333 seems to be working pretty good, thinking about updating this machine, anything major broke in testing (mostly concerened about kde) |
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| 05:25.02 | grendal_prime | !testing |
| 05:25.02 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
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| 05:25.35 | Mynstral | I'm having trouble with slrn. When I start it, I get "Failed to initialize server" "Reason:" "slrn fatal error:" "Failed to initialize server." |
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| 05:32.15 | lunitik | (yes they are the same thing currently, but after etch, will they work for next testing tree too?) |
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| 05:32.56 | psyBNCer | src/p_link.c: In function 'getlink': |
| 05:33.06 | psyBNCer | i got this error while compiling psyBNC |
| 05:33.15 | fantomas | simonrvn: I need .deb source building help too. I executed debian/rules and it applied some patches to the main tree. What now should I do to get .deb? Do I need to make it as ordinary source or there is some special debian tool for that. |
| 05:33.21 | simonrvn | that's not the error |
| 05:33.41 | psyBNCer | [*] Compiling Bouncer.. |
| 05:33.42 | psyBNCer | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nullcode/psybnc' |
| 05:33.42 | psyBNCer | gcc -I./src/ -I. -c -O -DHAVE_CONFIG -DBIGENDIAN -DIPV6 -DNOSYSTIME src/p_link.c -o src/p_link.o |
| 05:33.42 | psyBNCer | In file included from src/p_link.c:28: |
| 05:33.42 | psyBNCer | ./src/p_global.h:953: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'log' |
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| 05:33.49 | fantomas | huh |
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| 05:34.16 | psyBNCer | sorry for flooding |
| 05:34.18 | psyBNCer | i didn't mean it . |
| 05:34.27 | simonrvn | !tell psyBNCer about paste |
| 05:34.36 | fantomas | simonrvn: I slightly confused with debhelper packages - what to use for building .deb source? |
| 05:34.44 | psyBNCer | so |
| 05:34.46 | fantomas | s/packages/package/ |
| 05:34.51 | psyBNCer | can any one help me out with that error ? |
| 05:34.54 | simonrvn | they get called by the rules file |
| 05:35.07 | simonrvn | psyBNCer: no because that's just a warning |
| 05:35.18 | simonrvn | fantomas: read the new maintainer's guide |
| 05:35.26 | psyBNCer | rc/p_link.c:738: warning: passing argument 2 of 'strmncpy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 05:35.26 | psyBNCer | make[1]: *** [src/p_link.o] Error 1 |
| 05:35.32 | psyBNCer | that's the error |
| 05:35.33 | simonrvn | stop pasting already |
| 05:35.43 | simonrvn | !tell psyBNCer about paster |
| 05:35.51 | psyBNCer | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/psybnc' |
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| 05:37.02 | foo | Hm, I am trying to set up nagios and this readme for nrpe says: The check_nrpe plugin should be placed on the Nagios host along with your other plugins. In most cases, this will be in the /usr/local/nagios/libexec directory. ... but I don't have that directory, and I can't find the default plugin directory anywhere in the docs. Any ideas? |
| 05:37.19 | psyBNCer | http://pastebin.ca/84672 |
| 05:37.27 | psyBNCer | well |
| 05:37.44 | psyBNCer | actually that's all what i got as an output since i did the make command |
| 05:38.08 | psyBNCer | any help now ? |
| 05:38.57 | psyBNCer | helloo .. =/ |
| 05:39.13 | foo | dpkg: patience |
| 05:39.14 | dpkg | i guess patience is a virtue. If you don't have the time to read the documentation about Debian, please don't ask questions here about Debian. |
| 05:39.29 | foo | hm, not really what I was looking for. heh.e |
| 05:39.37 | simonrvn | that's a code error at first glance |
| 05:39.41 | fantomas | simonrvn: what do you mean 'they get called'? |
| 05:40.46 | simonrvn | see line 58. in your paste |
| 05:41.24 | fantomas | simonrvn: and why dpkg-dep doesn't do things? Isn't it for building .deb from .deb source? Sorry for n00b question, I never do this before |
| 05:41.43 | simonrvn | foo: debian nagios stuff is in /usr/lib/nagios IIRC |
| 05:41.56 | psyBNCer | how can i fix this ? |
| 05:41.57 | simonrvn | plugins i mean; use dpkg -L to find out |
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| 05:42.19 | simonrvn | fantomas: read the new maintainer guide |
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| 05:42.31 | Mynstral | Does anyone have any suggestions for news readers with ssl and nzb support? |
| 05:42.34 | foo | simonrvn: Geez, I built from source. I didn't even think about a deb. I have the stuff in /usr/local/nagios/ ... but there is no plugins dir, or libexec directory. |
| 05:43.39 | simonrvn | psyBNCer: do you know the language? if not, file a bug with whomever you got that from |
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| 05:50.17 | Assid | heya |
| 05:50.23 | fantomas | simonrvn: hehe, dpkg-buildpackage is what I needed :) |
| 05:50.32 | fantomas | simonrvn: thanks |
| 05:50.34 | Assid | im getting some crazy errors out of this machine all of a sudden |
| 05:50.35 | Assid | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 05:50.35 | Assid | E: Error occured while processing gs (NewVersion1) |
| 05:50.43 | Assid | i get that when i apt-get update |
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| 05:51.09 | simonrvn | !tell Assid about dynamic mmap |
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| 05:52.15 | cam | why is it not possible to complete a word including "_" characters under vim using the CTRL P command ? |
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| 05:52.39 | simonrvn | fantomas: see, not too hard, eh? the hard part is doing it right, making sure it's clean and up to standards |
| 05:52.58 | simonrvn | cam: bug? feature? ;) |
| 05:53.00 | Assid | cause of sarge huh |
| 05:53.14 | simonrvn | no |
| 05:54.40 | simonrvn | oh fun |
| 05:54.40 | Assid | hehe |
| 05:54.40 | simonrvn | 'split |
| 05:54.40 | Assid | how come apt-get isnt advised for sarge updates |
| 05:54.40 | simonrvn | because aptitude is |
| 05:54.40 | foo | haha. |
| 05:54.40 | Assid | well... shouldnt it be compliant with both |
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| 05:55.37 | simonrvn | shouldn't what be with both what? |
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| 05:55.49 | sid | !dpkg |
| 05:55.49 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, I AM A BOT YOU CAN NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME! or dpkg is the base of the Debian PacKaGe management system. It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993. dpkg is similar to RPM, as it is used to install, remove, and provide information about deb packages. dpkg itself is a low level tool; higher level tools, such as APT, are used to fetch packages from remote locations or deal with complex package relations. see also <apt-get> <apt> |
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| 05:56.03 | Assid | shouldnt it work with apt-get and aptitude |
| 05:56.25 | cam | simonrvn, no idea if it's a bug or it's normal ... just wondering if you ever wanted to complete a word like "foo_bar" heh |
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| 05:56.31 | fantomas | simonrvn: its actually neverball package, just trying to increase default lifes, 3 is stupidly low for increase one's skill :) |
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| 05:57.22 | Timtow | is there a program to convert .avi files? |
| 05:57.27 | simonrvn | cam: i haven't used that at all actually |
| 05:57.56 | Timtow | or better yet, connect with digi cam and output DVD format? |
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| 06:00.24 | Gnea | coward: imagemagick |
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| 06:03.00 | coward | Gnea, thanks! |
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| 06:05.33 | livex | i need configure a server backup in tapes device,,, |
| 06:05.54 | livex | someone helpme |
| 06:05.55 | livex | ? |
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| 06:14.19 | Assid | squirrelmail is pretty decently good |
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| 06:16.29 | meekish | does squirrelmail run on top of an smtp(postfix) and pop3 (qpopper) server? |
| 06:17.29 | wols | no |
| 06:17.43 | wols | webmail and pop3 generally don't mix |
| 06:18.35 | wols | always use imap with webmail. much easier. and all imap servers can also do pop3 |
| 06:19.24 | meekish | what is a good IMAP stack for debian? |
| 06:20.01 | wols | use courier |
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| 06:20.29 | wols | http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 06:20.36 | wols | for example |
| 06:20.52 | wols | other choices are cyrus and dovecot |
| 06:21.12 | foo | I installed nagat. How do I access it? |
| 06:21.16 | wols | but what you want is non trivial for someone new to email |
| 06:21.18 | foo | No man page on it, apparently. |
| 06:21.18 | meekish | cool, i'll check out courier. have you heard of roundcube? it's looks pretty sweet |
| 06:21.34 | wols | heard of it yet, but it's new |
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| 06:22.22 | wols | foo: looked in /usr/share/doc/nagat ? |
| 06:22.58 | foo | wols: ah, thanks, what just doing a find to search fo rit., |
| 06:23.39 | meekish | wols: thanks for that link. that looks like it will be a good read |
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| 06:24.34 | owg | hello, is anybody using the acx driver for wlan? |
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| 06:28.08 | wols | !anyone |
| 06:28.08 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 06:28.13 | naranha | my applications menu in gnome flickers all the time (im using sid). i read this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=374617.. do i have to remove menu-xdg? or is there an other way? |
| 06:29.26 | owg | wols, if I spoof my MAC address with ifconfig, it doesn't work in linux |
| 06:29.57 | naranha | gnome-panel uses 25% of the cpu all the time too... |
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| 06:30.17 | owg | üö |
| 06:33.19 | cafuego | ¿çî? |
| 06:33.24 | wols | omi_: nevre did that myself with WLAN. have you tried iwconfig perhaps? |
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| 06:34.14 | mostak | is there any mplayer plugin package in debian? |
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| 06:34.30 | wols | no. |
| 06:34.35 | wols | !tell mostak about marillat |
| 06:35.46 | naranha | mostak: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 06:37.34 | mostak | wols: naranha: i know about marillat. i have installed mplayer. i need plugins for firefox for video streaming. |
| 06:37.59 | naranha | what about mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla? |
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| 06:38.16 | naranha | (never tryed it) |
| 06:38.39 | mostak | i have installed mozilla mplayerplug-in but it is not working well. |
| 06:39.01 | mostak | so i thought i need a debian packaged one. |
| 06:39.32 | naranha | hmm no idea sorry |
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| 06:40.44 | NetBandit | hi |
| 06:40.46 | NetBandit | Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect( |
| 06:40.51 | NetBandit | what can i do, im trying a remote mysql, php cli mode |
| 06:40.53 | mostak | naranha: thks. |
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| 06:41.37 | NetBandit | any clues? |
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| 06:46.15 | Tallu | NetBandit: call to undefined function? |
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| 06:49.48 | Kilopopo | hi |
| 06:49.53 | Kilopopo | how do i configure xorg.conf |
| 06:51.08 | NetBandit | Tallu: is it okay to install php4-mysql to fix this problem? |
| 06:51.28 | nevyn | Kilopopo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:51.44 | nevyn | Kilopopo: if that fails consider using the universal unix configuration tool |
| 06:52.03 | foo | I am trying to set up nagios. I have installed nagat ... it isn't that simple, though. Anyone have experience with this? |
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| 06:52.18 | nevyn | vi /etc/X11/Xorg.conf |
| 06:52.43 | Kilopopo | i dont have etc/X11/Xorg |
| 06:53.00 | Tallu | NetBandit: should work :) |
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| 06:53.16 | peterS | it's called xorg.conf, no capital letter |
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| 06:53.32 | Kilopopo | ok it works |
| 06:53.35 | NetBandit | Tallu: okay, thanks ;) |
| 06:53.35 | nevyn | my bad |
| 06:53.38 | Kilopopo | i think mine is xfree86 |
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| 06:53.41 | nevyn | no X on this system |
| 06:53.50 | Kilopopo | ohhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:53.54 | Kilopopo | debian is sooooo wicked |
| 06:54.03 | nevyn | Kilopopo: oh then it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 06:54.09 | xerophyte | when i mougnt mount /dev/sdb1 /backup i am able to mount the disk when i put this in the /etc/fstab /dev/sdb1 /backup ext3 defaults 0 0 its not automatically mounting does anybody know why |
| 06:54.26 | nevyn | what is wicked about debian? |
| 06:54.45 | Kilopopo | how do i change xfree86 to xorg |
| 06:54.52 | Kilopopo | does xgl work in xfree86 |
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| 06:55.13 | peterS | Kilopopo: what do you mean, _in_ xfree86? does freebsd work in linux? |
| 06:55.26 | Kilopopo | huh |
| 06:55.33 | Kilopopo | i dunno if freebsd works in linux |
| 06:55.50 | Guerin | ... |
| 06:55.52 | peterS | try this one on, then: does debian work in windows xp? |
| 06:55.54 | cafuego | your grammar is bad |
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| 06:56.34 | Kilopopo | im really sorry |
| 06:56.46 | Kilopopo | im just wondering if xgl will work under xfree86 |
| 06:56.50 | Guerin | ... |
| 06:56.55 | peterS | it doesn't work _under_ anything |
| 06:57.05 | foo | It works under dell hardware |
| 06:57.08 | peterS | xgl is an X server implementation which is being developed at x.org |
| 06:57.28 | lunitik | peterS: he's asking whether he can use Xgl with XFree86 ... his answer is no |
| 06:58.18 | Kilopopo | can i install xorg in debian |
| 06:58.30 | Guerin | Kilopopo: you have my permission |
| 06:58.41 | lunitik | Guerin: so kind :P |
| 06:58.52 | Guerin | i'm just a generous bloke |
| 06:58.59 | wols | !tell Kilopopo about xorg sarge |
| 06:59.04 | sng | I can vouch for that. |
| 06:59.12 | Guerin | i even offer to buy people i've only met on irc a beer |
| 06:59.17 | sng | A giver is what he is. |
| 06:59.25 | lunitik | Kilopopo: what is your native language? if English, how old are you? |
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| 06:59.39 | lunitik | Guerin: I want a beer! |
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| 07:00.35 | sng | lunitik: You can have a beer and a flashy thing when you grow up, junior. |
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| 07:00.49 | lunitik | sng: a flashy thing? |
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| 07:01.04 | Guerin | lunitik: make it to Wellington, New Zealand and I will gladly buy you one |
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| 07:01.21 | Guerin | except spelling age |
| 07:01.30 | Guerin | which remains relevant, even when you think it's not |
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| 07:01.47 | sng | That and he misses obvious jokes. :) |
| 07:03.45 | lunitik | hmm... spell checker isn't working :| |
| 07:05.58 | lunitik | That's better |
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| 07:21.14 | binary_dreamer | hi. could someone tell me where i could find sarge with custom kernel? |
| 07:21.35 | wols | define "custom" |
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| 07:21.56 | Guerin | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 07:21.57 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 07:21.57 | wols | how would you create a custom kernel when you have to install your build-essentials first? |
| 07:22.08 | wols | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 07:22.09 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.15 is probably http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 07:22.13 | Guerin | etc. |
| 07:22.18 | wols | Guerin: you're behind the times |
| 07:22.32 | binary_dreamer | Guerin: thanks a lot |
| 07:22.39 | Guerin | amazingly, since I've been without an internet connection for ~6 months |
| 07:23.06 | Guerin | i might be using one o' those soon too |
| 07:23.24 | Guerin | i have a centrino laptop which i bet won't polay nice with sarge |
| 07:23.32 | Guerin | it's got winxp onit now |
| 07:23.43 | wols | yes, same thing with ahlon64s |
| 07:24.06 | wols | why is no one fuxubg that?. Isn't it a clear bug? |
| 07:24.13 | etrask | I think my TV runs on linux... |
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| 07:24.54 | Guerin | wols: fixing what? |
| 07:25.33 | ntars | hi, i've a problem removing apache wia apt-get...can somebody help plz? |
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| 07:26.58 | wols | ntars: of course, cause we're all psychic and know what problems you encounter with apache |
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| 07:27.14 | wols | Guerin: the acpi thing which makes harddisk access a lottery |
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| 07:27.43 | Guerin | wols: in sarge? Not going to change, sarge is a year old. |
| 07:28.07 | ntars | wols: we installed apache via apt-get install, later we removed apache via apt-get remove-but now apache is still running |
| 07:28.09 | ntars | yes sarge |
| 07:28.10 | wols | but it means you can't install sarge on a large number of machines |
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| 07:28.42 | wols | ntars: dpkg -l |grep apache |
| 07:28.51 | wols | what does this print out? |
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| 07:29.36 | Gumby | Ive just installed debian sarge on a via cpia motherboard and when I try to upgrade to a 2.6.8-2 kernel it fails to boot each and every time. it flashes by pretty quickly and I cant quite tell why its not booting. Anyone have any idea why this might be? |
| 07:29.38 | ntars | dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `�': No such file or directory |
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| 07:30.53 | wols | ntars: have you shot your dpkg database of installed packages? |
| 07:31.25 | ntars | wols: don't know- sorry i'm german...do you mean that the database ist fucked up? |
| 07:31.53 | ntars | ^^ |
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| 07:32.13 | wols | *is |
| 07:32.13 | ntars | can you help me in #debian-de? |
| 07:32.33 | whaq|away | nein |
| 07:32.44 | ntars | guat |
| 07:35.08 | Guerin | wols: machines which are newer than sarge, mostly. |
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| 07:37.18 | Gumby | hrm, well this aint all that fun |
| 07:37.35 | E911 | hi. pasted some stuff to #flood |
| 07:37.49 | E911 | what's broken there? i can't installl libc6-dev |
| 07:38.08 | E911 | it's a debian sarge |
| 07:38.13 | Gumby | does anyone know if there should be other packages other than kernels that need to be installed to get a 2.6 kernel to boot when you've had a 2.4 kernel installed |
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| 07:39.05 | Gumby | E911: usually one would ask people to join #flood before posting or alternately use http://rafb.net/paste and then paste the resulting URL of your paste back to the channel |
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| 07:39.55 | lunitik | Gumby: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-$ARCH should be fine (sarge is kernel-image) |
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| 07:40.39 | Gumby | lunitik: yes, I think I found my problem. I installed a 686 image and it should have been a 386 image |
| 07:40.54 | E911 | Gumby ah, ok |
| 07:40.57 | E911 | i'll try |
| 07:41.08 | lunitik | Gumby: pre-pentium II? |
| 07:41.09 | Gumby | do or do not, there is no try |
| 07:41.29 | Gumby | lunaphyte: its a via C3 cpu. via epia motherboard |
| 07:41.59 | syntaxx | what library do i need to install if im having no curses/termcap library found? |
| 07:42.02 | lunitik | Gumby: so its a k6 or so probably I think |
| 07:42.14 | E911 | Here's a link to my problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mDwgv263.html |
| 07:42.16 | Gumby | lunitik: I dont think so. |
| 07:42.28 | lunitik | syntaxx: umm.... ncurses ? |
| 07:42.30 | my007ms | is there software let me make virtual printer in my linux box |
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| 07:42.42 | lunitik | Gumby: AMD processor? |
| 07:42.47 | Gumby | lunaphyte: no, via C3 |
| 07:42.58 | Guerin | via c3 are plain 386, i think |
| 07:43.04 | lunitik | Gumby: your auto-completion sucks |
| 07:43.07 | Gumby | Guerin: yep, just found that out |
| 07:43.13 | Guerin | yeh :) |
| 07:43.16 | Gumby | lunitik: no, its just my attention that sucks right now |
| 07:43.16 | Gumby | hehe |
| 07:43.32 | syntaxx | lunitik, what ncurses do i need to install? |
| 07:43.49 | Guerin | my007ms: you can cat files to /dev/something |
| 07:44.07 | lunitik | syntaxx: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search whatitsaskingfor |
| 07:44.09 | Guerin | my007ms: i don't think you need additional software, i think it just needs soms setup |
| 07:44.10 | Gumby | syntaxx: apt-cache search libncurses |
| 07:45.10 | wols | Guerin: C3 is a P5 wannabe. not 386 |
| 07:45.20 | wols | there are no 386 anymore, everyone has a FPU by now |
| 07:45.38 | Gumby | wols: it will not boot with a 686 kernel |
| 07:45.39 | my007ms | i need this is virtual printer how i wish to try share it over samba i mean windows box will have virtual printer and the file thy try to print come to my as file |
| 07:45.50 | wols | yes, cause a 686 is no P5, duh |
| 07:45.56 | Guerin | wols: i know, but i'm talking about debian kernels, which don't do 4 or 586 |
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| 07:46.03 | Guerin | but yeah, i was inspecific |
| 07:46.07 | wols | Guerin: since when? |
| 07:46.20 | Kilopopo | no xorg 7 love for debian sarge? |
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| 07:46.21 | Guerin | wols: there's no specific kernels for them |
| 07:46.39 | Guerin | Kilopopo: no, since xorg 7 was released ages after sarge |
| 07:47.07 | Kilopopo | Guerin: do you know if xgl runs in xorg 6.9 |
| 07:47.30 | Guerin | Kilopopo: no |
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| 07:47.37 | wols | linux-image-2.6-486 must be a hallucination then |
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| 07:48.01 | Guerin | huh |
| 07:48.04 | liable | i think it needs to be modular xoeg.. |
| 07:48.04 | liable | so.. no |
| 07:48.08 | Guerin | in sarge? |
| 07:48.17 | Kilopopo | last is xorg 7 available in any testing debian |
| 07:48.30 | Guerin | !depends linux-image-2.6-486 sarge |
| 07:48.35 | liable | yes |
| 07:48.35 | E911 | Hmm, it somehow happend that my libc6 is from testing while the rest of my system is from stable |
| 07:48.39 | E911 | strange |
| 07:48.45 | Guerin | hm, not in sarge |
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| 07:49.04 | Kilopopo | Guerin: does xorg 7 exists in any testing debian |
| 07:49.05 | lunitik | !depends kernel-image-2.6-486 |
| 07:49.09 | liable | wols: thats a testing kernel |
| 07:49.21 | liable | moreso, the install kernel.. |
| 07:49.21 | Guerin | !tell Kilopopo about search |
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| 07:50.11 | tnks | Are DNS nameservers managed by any binary tool? Or is writing to resolv.conf the only way it's done? |
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| 07:51.51 | liable | lunitik: indeed, if you cant install xorg, i think you should prolly go out back now and stick head in bucket of water and count to a thousand :P |
| 07:52.10 | Guerin | mind you |
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| 07:52.18 | Guerin | if you can't install it on sarge, you could be excused |
| 07:52.34 | Guerin | maybe only 100 |
| 07:53.53 | wols | !xorg sarge |
| 07:53.54 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg sarge is now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 07:53.58 | wols | can't be excused |
| 07:54.22 | Guerin | nope |
| 07:54.36 | Guerin | suppose not |
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| 08:01.14 | varvar | Is there any deb packages about xgl? |
| 08:02.41 | liable | havent seen any |
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| 08:03.11 | ktwilight | !tell varvar about xgl |
| 08:03.39 | varvar | I know suse use it |
| 08:03.51 | liable | you can get the cvs |
| 08:03.51 | my007ms | i see that there is to many server have + in it's name does LMB is only one server per network or it's normal that there is more then one |
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| 08:05.48 | Guerin | wtf? |
| 08:06.56 | varvar | to liable:Is there any http or ftp website for me to get source package of xgl? |
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| 08:07.57 | yeager | wtf |
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| 08:08.05 | thefish | what the hell? |
| 08:08.06 | thefish | lol |
| 08:08.12 | Guerin | people are fucking stupid |
| 08:08.18 | Guerin | why does this surprise you? |
| 08:08.40 | wols | this guy is not stupid, but he certainly is an asocial asshole |
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| 08:09.29 | rnix | hi, is there a python2.4.3 available for sarge on amd64? |
| 08:09.41 | streuner | wols: Don't underestimate people... |
| 08:09.43 | liable | must be post WC lunacy.. |
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| 08:09.45 | Guerin | i think there is sufficient evidence to suggest he is stupid, and none to suggest he isn't |
| 08:09.48 | Eclipser | not stupid? |
| 08:10.16 | liable | depends on your view of shaved balls i guess.. |
| 08:10.24 | wols | there is no evidence of stupidity. trolls are often intelligent, they're just assholes in their behaviour. their intelligence is fine |
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| 08:10.44 | streuner | true |
| 08:10.46 | wols | or at least not different than the median of population |
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| 08:11.16 | Guerin | stupidity isn't necessarily related to intelligence |
| 08:11.26 | streuner | insulting her/him would feed ... |
| 08:11.30 | Guerin | i know plenty of smart stupid perople and plenty of dumb unstupid people |
| 08:11.53 | Guerin | stupid is as stupid does, and that was stupid doings |
| 08:12.17 | wols | depends what he wanted to accomplish. he certainly annoyed people in here. so from his POV it wasn't stupid |
| 08:12.19 | liable | hrm, enough of the #debian psychology :P |
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| 08:13.00 | my007ms | does LMB in samba network in only one server or it can be more then one server "i see there is more then one when i try findsmb" |
| 08:13.05 | thefish | perhaps he created a diversion to allow his evil cracker co-conspirators to infiltrate the freenode matrix! |
| 08:13.14 | Guerin | perhaps |
| 08:13.21 | Guerin | stupider things have happened |
| 08:14.09 | liable | my007ms: there can be more than one server but if more than one master server it turns into a shitfiht |
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| 08:14.13 | liable | fight |
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| 08:14.43 | liable | if i read that corectly.. which i am not so sure i did.. :) |
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| 08:16.39 | wols | liable: congrats for deciphering his question |
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| 08:16.59 | liable | wols: i am not sure i did :P |
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| 08:17.14 | wols | you've done the best job so far, so you#re the "winner" by default :) |
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| 08:17.47 | mrparanoid | anyone happen to have a good guide for recompiling kernels? i seem to be running into some compile errors |
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| 08:18.11 | wols | !newbiedoc |
| 08:18.12 | dpkg | well, newbiedoc is http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/ -- newbies check it out! veterans too, so you can contribute! :) |
| 08:18.33 | mrparanoid | cheers wols |
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| 08:18.59 | liable | i believe theres even a guide on debian.org |
| 08:19.24 | liable | though i still like my old favourite, the old osnews one/ |
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| 08:21.18 | liable | !tell marco_ about root |
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| 08:23.17 | marco_ | + |
| 08:23.19 | marco_ | aa |
| 08:23.25 | liable | marco_: forget you were su'd :) |
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| 08:23.37 | MarkH_UK | hi all |
| 08:24.02 | liable | hola |
| 08:24.16 | MarkH_UK | what port does SCP use? |
| 08:24.21 | MarkH_UK | is it just Port 22 TCP? |
| 08:24.27 | streuner | by default |
| 08:24.29 | streuner | yes |
| 08:25.15 | wols | whatever your ssh server uses |
| 08:25.17 | liable | streuner: all the funs over eh? |
| 08:25.36 | streuner | liable: iam really glad :-) |
| 08:25.49 | liable | streuner: to many hangovers? :P |
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| 08:25.57 | streuner | liable: no poltics in TV, radio or whatever ;-) |
| 08:26.03 | liable | ahh, i see |
| 08:26.19 | streuner | 24/7 only soccer |
| 08:26.35 | liable | yup, i suppose that would wear thin after a while |
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| 08:27.37 | liable | s/wear thin/get annoting/ (just in case you didnt quite get what i meanyt :) |
| 08:27.45 | liable | annoying* |
| 08:28.56 | streuner | well, for some none native english speaker its prolly easier to just get that :-) |
| 08:29.57 | liable | yeah, especially being from .au, we tend to speak too much slang that even english speakers dont understand :) |
| 08:32.09 | liable | time for food |
| 08:32.11 | streuner | liable: in the meantime of that event, they increase the taxes |
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| 08:32.45 | streuner | because all people and media watched only for soccer... |
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| 08:34.18 | wols | the taxes were long known. what they also did was to pass a "reform" of the health system which is so abysmally bad it blows your mind |
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| 08:40.43 | MarkH_UK | streuner ok cheers. |
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| 08:49.45 | freeone3000 | Why is mono requesting I have things in ~? |
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| 08:53.24 | Steven_M | is there any way of changing the double click speed of gtk+ apps without installing gnome? |
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| 08:54.19 | ryty | so why no X.org 7 for debian-amd64 yet? |
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| 08:56.21 | yang | How can I compile nvidia drivers for etch, if there is no nvidia-glx package in etch? |
| 08:56.42 | dondelelcaro | ryty: uh... it's in the archive |
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| 08:57.48 | dondelelcaro | yang: get the nvidia-glx package from unstable, and build it in etch. |
| 08:58.05 | dondelelcaro | (assuming it even exists in unstable) |
| 08:58.14 | Steven_M | can you set a global double-click speed in xorg yet? |
| 08:58.23 | yang | dondelelcaro: there are unmet dependancies... |
| 08:58.33 | Eclipser | still? |
| 08:58.34 | yang | dondelelcaro: even with the kernel |
| 08:58.41 | Eclipser | it was a few months ago when I changed to sid because of that |
| 08:58.44 | dondelelcaro | Steven_M: no, because double clicking has no meaning as far as the server is concerned |
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| 08:59.11 | dondelelcaro | yang: you don't actually need to install it, just use the source to build itt. |
| 08:59.27 | Ogedei | is the an easy way to list the files that a package will install? |
| 08:59.42 | yang | dondelelcaro: so, i download .tar.gz and build a .deb out of it? |
| 08:59.56 | Steven_M | dondelelcaro: big oversite on xorg's part |
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| 09:00.28 | wols | yang: you apt-get the source from unstable and build a .deb |
| 09:00.32 | dondelelcaro | Steven_M: xorg can't help the fact that nvidia wants to have binary modules that break instead of releasing proper documentation so working drivers can be made |
| 09:00.54 | yang | can i get the source on http://packages.debian.org? |
| 09:00.56 | dondelelcaro | holding up development on the server unreasonably because a vendor is insane isn't useful. |
| 09:01.00 | dondelelcaro | yang: yes. |
| 09:01.04 | __ne2k | I'm trying to debug a problem with PCMCIA in 2.4 kernel. I know that to turn on pcmcia debugging, I need to define PCMCIA_DEBUG, but in my 2.4.32 kernel this doesn't appear to be a configuration option -- if I just put CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG in the .config file, it doesn't work. Is this to do with the fact that pcmcia_cs has been gradually merged from a separate package into the kernel source, and in any event, how can I turn on the debugging?! |
| 09:01.22 | Steven_M | true |
| 09:02.23 | freeone3000 | Why is mono requesting I have things in $HOME? |
| 09:02.25 | Steven_M | dondelelcaro: do you know the answer to my gtk+ question |
| 09:02.51 | Ogedei | the thing is, I installed libapache-mod-lisp, but I can't find the apache module file it is supposed to have installed *somewhere* |
| 09:03.21 | yang | dondelelcaro: and where are instructions on how to build .deb out of .tar.gz? |
| 09:04.33 | dondelelcaro | yang: get the .orig.tar.gz, the .dsc and the .diff.gz; dpkg-source -x foo.dsc; apt-get install fakeroot build-essential; install builddeps; cd foo-; fakeroot debian/rules binary; |
| 09:05.04 | yang | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 09:05.51 | vovo4ka | hi! |
| 09:05.54 | bony | are there any tools through which i can configure my network cards from text terminal. i am not going to install xserver. |
| 09:05.59 | vovo4ka | how to install DVB card on debian ? |
| 09:06.09 | vovo4ka | sarge3 |
| 09:06.15 | vovo4ka | i have skystar2 |
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| 09:06.29 | vovo4ka | and fresh Debian installed |
| 09:06.31 | dondelelcaro | Steven_M: I don't muck with gtk+ much; but there should be a configuration file option to set it; google probably knows. |
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| 09:06.58 | dondelelcaro | truthfully speaking, I have no clue what the double click setup is, since I don't double click. |
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| 09:09.03 | b_jonas | ah, nice. this Debian FAQ "http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-kernel.en.html" tells me exactly what I wanted to know |
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| 09:12.46 | wdamn | Hi, since I upgrade vim from 6.3 to 6.4, it doesn't get syntax highlight and colorscheme |
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| 09:19.03 | varvar | edit ~/.vimrc |
| 09:19.28 | varvar | syntax on |
| 09:19.59 | wdamn | varvar: It's already on - vim still looking for syntax in /usr/share/vim/vim63/ |
| 09:21.53 | lightyear | something different with syntaxing in 6.4 maybe? |
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| 09:23.27 | wdamn | lightyear: very likely to be ... |
| 09:23.59 | lightyear | so it's neccessary to upgrade them, or? |
| 09:24.32 | wdamn | lightyear: upgrade what? |
| 09:24.42 | lightyear | the syntax-files... |
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| 09:25.11 | lightyear | if there is something different, the files need to be updatet or they won't work, right? |
| 09:25.12 | wdamn | well, I've already got /usr/share/vim/vim64/ files but vim64 look into /usr/share/vim/vim63/ |
| 09:25.31 | b_jonas | hmm. are there non-english debian irc channels? possibly on other servers? |
| 09:25.33 | lightyear | if it needs new files? |
| 09:26.22 | b_jonas | because I can't find any mentioned on the debian homepage, but there should be, as there's a large non-english debian community |
| 09:26.28 | lunitik | b_jonas: what language? |
| 09:26.32 | wdamn | lightyear: I've got it, I need to change the path in /etc/vim/vimrc |
| 09:26.38 | b_jonas | lunitik: hungarian |
| 09:26.40 | lightyear | hmm.... |
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| 09:26.47 | lightyear | i've no idea anymore |
| 09:27.00 | lightyear | no logfiles or errors? |
| 09:27.24 | __ne2k | I'm trying to debug a problem with PCMCIA in 2.4 kernel. I know that to turn on pcmcia debugging, I need to define PCMCIA_DEBUG, but in my 2.4.32 kernel this doesn't appear to be a configuration option -- if I just put CONFIG_PCMCIA_DEBUG in the .config file, it doesn't work. Is this to do with the fact that pcmcia_cs has been gradually merged from a separate package into the kernel source, and in any event, how can I turn on the debugging?! |
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| 09:28.21 | b_jonas | because, I mean, it would be a good idea for the debian homepage to advertise such channels so that the community would know where to go |
| 09:28.53 | lunitik | b_jonas: no, there doesn't appear to be a hungarian help channel |
| 09:28.57 | b_jonas | this winter I was deceived by the shiny apparence of ubuntu for a few months |
| 09:29.10 | b_jonas | and they do advertise an official hungarian help channel |
| 09:29.41 | b_jonas | and although there were only very few residents there, they _could_ help in my specific question |
| 09:29.55 | lunitik | b_jonas: try /dpkg listkeys foo where foo is something to do with hungarian |
| 09:30.18 | b_jonas | and as there's a much larger debian community in Hungary, so I think the same thing would work with debian better |
| 09:30.27 | b_jonas | yes, dpkg is a good idea |
| 09:30.45 | lunitik | b_jonas: /msg dpkg listkeys even... hehe |
| 09:32.42 | yang | dondelelcaro: when i do "install builddeps" i get install: missing destination file operand after `builddeps' |
| 09:33.31 | b_jonas | dpkg knows nothing |
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| 09:37.56 | dondelelcaro | yang: that wasn't the command, it was just me telling you to install the build dependencies. |
| 09:40.05 | yang | dondelelcaro: can´t follow that line correctly...which build dependancies?..I created the directory where the files got untarred inside, now i just have to fakeroot debian/rules binary? |
| 09:41.03 | dondelelcaro | yang: the build dependencies necessary to build the nvidia package. less debian/control; will tell you what they are. |
| 09:42.03 | lunitik | yang: the New Maintainers Guide tells you how to figure out build depends |
| 09:43.16 | lunitik | hmm... plus what dondelelcaro said |
| 09:43.24 | yang | dondelelcaro: you mean i must match these...Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8762, x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0), ${shlibs:Depends} |
| 09:43.41 | yang | xorg version 7.0 and higher... |
| 09:43.58 | dondelelcaro | yang: Build-Depends, not the package dependencies... |
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| 09:44.37 | yang | ok |
| 09:46.55 | yang | dondelelcaro: it fails to build - http://paste.debian.net/8856 |
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| 10:03.58 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 10:03.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd143 is <antgel> wireless is for cocks |
| 10:04.05 | liable | meh |
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| 10:05.48 | wireddd | yeah I hate wireless |
| 10:06.21 | liable | wireless rocks, wtf are you talking about! |
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| 10:06.41 | wireddd | let me elaborate, I hate wireless support in linux |
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| 10:07.08 | liable | well, dont buy a shit card :P |
| 10:07.10 | wols | wireddd: so you hate the wireless manufacturers mostly? |
| 10:07.16 | wireddd | mostly |
| 10:07.32 | wols | tho, the evironment for wireless in linux is nothing to write home about either. bit |
| 10:07.36 | wols | big shitty patchwork |
| 10:07.52 | wols | reminds me of how USB started |
| 10:07.56 | liable | bah, apasupp recently has made me a very happy chappy |
| 10:08.00 | liable | wpasupp.. |
| 10:08.07 | syntaxx | how can my apache run on startup? i cp apachectl /etc/init.d/httpd but it doesnt run on boot? |
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| 10:08.24 | liable | syntaxx: dpkg-reconfigure apache |
| 10:08.25 | wols | syntaxx: if you install it it autmatically gets started on bootup |
| 10:08.52 | syntaxx | wols, i installed it via source |
| 10:08.59 | liable | you lose |
| 10:09.16 | wols | !lose syntaxx |
| 10:09.16 | dpkg | syntaxx: You Lose. |
| 10:09.28 | wols | syntaxx: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 10:09.35 | syntaxx | thanks |
| 10:09.43 | liable | surely the source has an init script... |
| 10:09.54 | wols | you still lose. you really want to create your own .deb |
| 10:10.07 | wols | liable: it has, but he's incapable of installing it properly |
| 10:10.12 | liable | no. you want the real debian package |
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| 10:10.28 | liable | wtf do you need to compile apache? |
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| 10:10.45 | liable | thats just crazy stuff |
| 10:10.45 | wols | liable: if he compiles from source I assume he has reasons to do so, like configure options that debian doesn't have set |
| 10:11.07 | wols | etc. however the way he did it is... not exactly the best way |
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| 10:11.20 | liable | assume = make an ass out of you and me :P |
| 10:11.35 | wols | speak for yourself |
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| 10:12.14 | liable | wah |
| 10:12.55 | yang | damnit every installation of nvidia requires nvidia-glx, why the heck they havent packed it in etch for the last 2 months? |
| 10:13.26 | liable | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing? |
| 10:13.26 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 10:14.47 | yang | i think i must use nvidia-installer provided on nvidia.com |
| 10:15.01 | yang | that one uses .run files |
| 10:15.07 | liable | read the damn link |
| 10:15.52 | wols | liable: won't help him installing the drivers :( |
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| 10:16.17 | liable | wols: no, but it explains why the package he wants, he cant get.. |
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| 10:17.16 | wols | what is this ia32libs anyways? a package nvidia dreamed up as support package thing? |
| 10:17.22 | yang | liable: well that packlage isnt available |
| 10:18.14 | liable | yang: did you read the link? |
| 10:18.16 | yang | i need nvidia drivers in order to use my TV tuner |
| 10:18.23 | yang | yes, i read the link |
| 10:18.58 | liable | thats life when you run testing... |
| 10:19.24 | liable | especially testing thats getting close to release |
| 10:19.38 | yang | xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images. *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card *** driver. If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then *this capability is only available with their binary drivers. |
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| 10:23.06 | yang | this is the erorr from building nvidia-glx |
| 10:23.13 | yang | it fails to build - http://paste.debian.net/8856 |
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| 10:25.05 | liable | yang: pate the whole lot |
| 10:25.28 | yang | you want to see the whole error? |
| 10:25.34 | liable | yes |
| 10:26.59 | yang | http://paste.debian.net/8859 |
| 10:28.49 | liable | hrm, looking in the old xorg dir. |
| 10:29.54 | tnks | trash |
| 10:29.54 | tnks | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.06 | liable | no fucking clue, but its pointing at the old x dir thats been changed in xorg7 |
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| 10:31.00 | yang | :/ |
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| 10:31.13 | wols | look for a nvidia.ko file instead |
| 10:31.15 | appelza | Hi, when running apt-get install mysql-client, it installs mysql 5..how do I get 4 to install, when I'm using etch? |
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| 10:34.58 | appelza | Hi, when running apt-get install mysql-client, it installs mysql 5..how do I get 4 to install, when I'm using etch? |
| 10:35.45 | liable | appelza: you cant really, unless you get it from s.d.n |
| 10:35.53 | yang | wols: nvidia.ko? |
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| 10:37.37 | jbrimble | Hey guys. |
| 10:37.43 | liable | Yvonne: check the status link in /topic for some clues (possibly) |
| 10:37.55 | jbrimble | How good is Debian Sarge's support for SATA? |
| 10:37.57 | liable | bah |
| 10:38.32 | liable | jbrimble: great! .. if you have a chipset supported by 2.6.8.. |
| 10:38.37 | Assid | jbrimble: debian got nothing to do with it.. its all about the kernel.. so if you use the 2.6 kernel.. you should be fine |
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| 10:39.00 | wols | jbrimble: what sata chipset? |
| 10:39.01 | jbrimble | Thankyou for your responses |
| 10:39.05 | jbrimble | Umm, let me check. |
| 10:39.10 | jbrimble | The machine arrives tomorrow |
| 10:39.24 | Assid | i need to change this gentoo box back to debian |
| 10:39.31 | appelza | liable: s.d.n ? |
| 10:39.45 | liable | appelza: snapshot.debian.net |
| 10:39.48 | Assid | i atleast know a few things in deb.. barely anything in this one. |
| 10:39.53 | appelza | Thanks |
| 10:40.10 | liable | !debtakeover |
| 10:40.11 | dpkg | from memory, debtakeover is Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian (woody, not sarge! Use DEFAULT_SUITE=woody and upgrade from there) for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 10:40.39 | jbrimble | hmm, It doesn't say on the DELL website. It's a new machine, a server. I'd assume it'd be the most compatible chipset. |
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| 10:40.50 | Assid | wisht the new release comes out soon.. would be nice to have a good X interface and latest stuff |
| 10:41.03 | Assid | jbrimble: they mostly tell you which motherboard model comes with it |
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| 10:41.43 | Assid | liable: local box.. so i'd prolly fdisk and reload |
| 10:41.47 | appelza | so, how would I install a package that depends on : libmysqlclient14 ? |
| 10:41.52 | Assid | just gotta remember to backup my crap first |
| 10:43.32 | wols | jbrimble: you can't install 2.6.8 sarge on it most likely. too new a chipset |
| 10:43.38 | wols | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 10:43.39 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.15 is, like, http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 10:44.03 | Assid | you could also try the source install :D |
| 10:44.15 | wols | appelza: obviously by installing libmysqlclient14 first or letting apt do it |
| 10:44.25 | wols | appelza: where is the needy package coming from? |
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| 10:45.44 | geemark | I am using the 3rd-party nvidia drivers, and i can "modprobe nvidia" just fine - however, X says "failed to load module nvidia (modules does not exist) |
| 10:46.32 | wols | you haven't installed it then |
| 10:46.35 | appelza | wols from a custom apt server |
| 10:46.47 | Alam_Debian | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.55 | appelza | apt-get only instals mysql5, so would putting mysql4 on the custom server work? |
| 10:47.01 | wols | you can try to install libmysqlclient14 froms arge if possible |
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| 10:47.08 | wols | just like mysql4 in general |
| 10:47.20 | geemark | Alam_Debian: in what folder? |
| 10:47.41 | Alam_Debian | i think /usr/lib/xorg/modules |
| 10:47.55 | geemark | Alam_Debian: i have one in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ |
| 10:49.00 | wols | geemark: that's cause nvidia_drv is the wrong file to search for |
| 10:49.01 | Alam_Debian | oh, you are on stable |
| 10:49.10 | appelza | how would i do that, if the server is already on etch? |
| 10:49.13 | wols | you need nvidia.ko for a 2.6 kernel which is somewhere under /lib/modules |
| 10:49.14 | Alam_Debian | oh... |
| 10:49.19 | appelza | also which package do i need to install to use 'deb' ? |
| 10:49.33 | wols | appelza: none. dpkg and apt are already there |
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| 10:49.55 | Alam_Debian | geemark, are your copmuter is on stable? |
| 10:50.09 | dest_ | to install "dpkg -i package.deb" |
| 10:50.14 | wols | Alam_Debian: you are right and I were wrong. sorry didn't read his description properly |
| 10:50.40 | appelza | deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool libmysqlclient-lgpl --how would I do that without having the 'deb' command, then ? |
| 10:50.51 | geemark | wols: the nvidia.ko is in there, Alam_Debian: testing |
| 10:51.07 | geemark | cd - |
| 10:51.13 | wols | appelza: there is no "deb" command anywhere. so you can't have it and don't need it |
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| 10:51.22 | wols | "deb" is short for a *.deb file |
| 10:51.27 | Alam_Debian | geemark, the file should be in /usr/lib/xorg/modules |
| 10:51.39 | vovo4ka | how to make linuxtv-dvb ??? |
| 10:51.43 | Alam_Debian | geemark, how did you install the nvidia driver? |
| 10:52.07 | appelza | Oh lol |
| 10:52.27 | geemark | Alam_Debian: by the nvida installer - i just made a symlink to the /usr/X11R6...., and it seems to work now |
| 10:52.34 | Alam_Debian | ............ |
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| 10:52.41 | faber3 | hi everybody |
| 10:53.02 | faber3 | how can i force apt-get to install something (even if the same version is already installed) ? |
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| 10:53.31 | liable | --reinstall..? |
| 10:53.53 | Alam_Debian | geemark, I used the nvidia installer, I went thur helll..... |
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| 10:57.24 | b_jonas | as I install debian, it boots using an initrd. if I compile my own kernel, I don't have to use an initrd with it, right? |
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| 10:58.31 | petrov | I have an ftp-server (proftpd) how I have a good security? |
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| 11:03.54 | sturmflut | I created my own kernel package named kernel-image-2.4.33-rc2. Will APT think that is smaller than kernel-image-2.4.33 if I install 2.4.33 later? |
| 11:03.58 | faber3 | is "netstat" does not give me a full ip, how can i find out the full ip? |
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| 11:05.18 | wols | faber3: it does |
| 11:05.39 | wols | faber3: try -n |
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| 11:08.01 | faber3 | wols: already with -n it shows only the class c net |
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| 11:09.45 | b_jonas | faber3: maybe the connection is broadcasting to that net? |
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| 11:10.20 | vovo4ka | make linuxtv wants /lib/modules/.../build/.config |
| 11:10.27 | vovo4ka | how to fix? |
| 11:10.49 | faber3 | tcp6 0 0 ::ffff:192.168.0.2:22 ::ffff:81.221.12.:22510 ESTABLISHED5201/sshd: root |
| 11:10.55 | faber3 | this is the suspicious line |
| 11:12.14 | dimir | vovo4ka: ln -s /usr/src/linux /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build |
| 11:12.36 | Assid | yay0 -- spammer |
| 11:12.40 | Assid | can someone ban his candy bumm |
| 11:12.45 | dimir | vovo4ka: or wherever your kernel sources are (instead of /usr/src/linux) |
| 11:13.02 | dimir | he's not here. |
| 11:13.04 | vovo4ka | ok |
| 11:13.07 | vovo4ka | thanx |
| 11:13.09 | dimir | np |
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| 11:17.00 | sven_ | how can i dump physical memory? all reading of /proc/kcore is denied with 'operation not permitted'. i am root |
| 11:17.16 | sven_ | it seems this is a feature of the 2.6 series of kernels, as it worked in 2.4 |
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| 11:17.42 | vovo4ka | damn... not same device |
| 11:17.43 | vovo4ka | =\ |
| 11:17.49 | MatBoy | What is the best processortype for a development workstation at the moment ? I normally use Intel... but when AMD is better... maybe I will switch :) |
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| 11:18.23 | vovo4ka | sven_, hello! |
| 11:18.28 | sven_ | hi. |
| 11:18.35 | cocozz | Hi, does any one knows how to use aa fonts on Eterm ? like -fa "xft:BitStream Vera Sans:pixelsize=12" with xterm... |
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| 11:19.31 | b_jonas | ah, dpkg came to the rescue |
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| 11:21.42 | b_jonas | !initrd |
| 11:21.43 | dpkg | initrd is probably initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 11:22.17 | wols | faber3: then make your terminal bigger |
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| 11:24.51 | nf1 | Hi, something strange happened to my system (Debian SID) after reboot, the fonts in KDE are very small and ugly |
| 11:31.06 | Shadowcat | what did you do to it? |
| 11:31.56 | wireddd | nfl it was probably something you got when you apt-get upgraded or something |
| 11:32.09 | nf1 | the only thing that I can think about is that I connect a projector |
| 11:32.47 | nf1 | Nope, it's not after dist-upgrade and after it, it didn't came ok either :( |
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| 11:33.31 | appelza | So there is no way to install mysql4 in etch? |
| 11:35.02 | shaibn | hi :) I have a sata controller that can hold up to 12 devices... my /var/log/messages shows that they all connect at boot time and the last one is /sdl ... but when I do ls /dev/sd? .. I only get up to sdh and that's it. why am I missing the rest? |
| 11:35.16 | vovo4ka | how to load modules to DVB? |
| 11:35.21 | vovo4ka | to=for |
| 11:36.42 | wireddd | hah gigabit isn't in gmails spell check... |
| 11:37.18 | wols | shaibn: cause you havent created the /dev entries |
| 11:37.37 | wols | shaibn: man MAKEDEV |
| 11:37.50 | Shadowcat | wols wtf |
| 11:37.57 | Shadowcat | you don't make dev entires in 2.6 |
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| 11:38.02 | Shadowcat | you edit udev rules |
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| 11:38.11 | wols | Shadowcat: depends how you installed |
| 11:38.15 | Nach | How can I tell apt-get to keep back on getting new versions on a particular package? |
| 11:38.35 | appelza | wols, could you assist me with getting mysql4 installed? |
| 11:38.39 | appelza | on etch |
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| 11:39.10 | shaibn | wols, the sata card was connect when I installed from netinstaller .. and it recognized the 3ware sata controller and all the devices on it.. but they just didn't all show up in /dev |
| 11:39.11 | Shadowcat | wols: so if you upgrade from 2.4 -> 2.6 you still have manual /dev management? |
| 11:39.40 | wols | Shadowcat: I installed sarge with 2.6 and still have it afaik |
| 11:39.46 | wols | udev is 2.6.15 or so |
| 11:39.51 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 11:39.54 | Shadowcat | great |
| 11:40.41 | wols | shaibn: do you have udev or not? if you don't, I already gave you the answer |
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| 11:41.20 | wols | appelza: add sarge to your sources.list update and then search for mysql 4 there. then install it |
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| 11:41.44 | wols | if that doesn't work, download mysql4 files from pdio and install manually via pdo |
| 11:41.55 | shaibn | wols, apt-get install udev did the trick :) |
| 11:42.01 | appelza | Ok Thanks, ill try |
| 11:42.09 | wols | or 3rd possibility, get the source from that unmaintained custom repository and build the debs for that app yourself |
| 11:43.37 | Nach | so um, can someone tell me how I can tell apt-get to keep back on upgrading a particular package? |
| 11:43.47 | shaibn | wols, thanks! |
| 11:45.08 | MakubeX | hello |
| 11:45.34 | wols | echo <paketname> "hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 11:46.42 | Nach | wols, thank you |
| 11:47.25 | ktwilight | is there a command that i can find out more information of a module? |
| 11:47.34 | vovo4ka | cant make dvb-kernel! |
| 11:47.35 | vovo4ka | =\ |
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| 11:47.41 | vovo4ka | failed with errors |
| 11:47.54 | vovo4ka | anybody installed DVB card on debian? |
| 11:48.33 | Mazingaro | there are spammers in this server too: yay0 |
| 11:48.47 | Ronin | Mazingaro: of course it is irc arger all |
| 11:49.00 | Mazingaro | Ronin: :( |
| 11:49.36 | blondie | Mazingaro: they need a /kill |
| 11:49.52 | Ronin | blondie: literally too ;) |
| 11:50.19 | blondie | :) |
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| 11:50.59 | Mazingaro | blondie: and? |
| 11:51.08 | blondie | and what? |
| 11:51.22 | Mazingaro | blondie: who has to do that? |
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| 11:51.37 | Ronin | Mazingaro: first an oper needs to know who it was etc |
| 11:51.38 | blondie | an oper |
| 11:51.47 | blondie | "yay0" they pm-ed me too |
| 11:51.57 | Mazingaro | blondie: :( |
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| 11:52.22 | bris | Hi, |
| 11:52.23 | Mazingaro | is the first time here for a spammer to send me its garbage |
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| 11:52.36 | Mazingaro | no one did it before (to me) |
| 11:52.58 | Ronin | Mazingaro: part of irc unfortinuatly, worse on some networks then others |
| 11:53.03 | Mazingaro | I think this is a study/work server, not a porno garage |
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| 11:53.42 | vovo4ka | anybody installed DVB card on debian? |
| 11:54.03 | wols | !anyone |
| 11:54.04 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 11:56.37 | vovo4ka | =) |
| 11:57.00 | vovo4ka | i try to do make dvb-kernel 1.1.1 and it failed to make |
| 11:57.41 | Mazingaro | blondie: is there a way to /kill it??? |
| 11:58.09 | blondie | Mazingaro: ask an oper |
| 11:58.17 | Mazingaro | I don't know none |
| 11:58.51 | Mazingaro | is anyone using debian amd64??? |
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| 11:59.53 | blondie | !anyone |
| 11:59.54 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 12:00.01 | blondie | Mazingaro: good, you know some then |
| 12:00.29 | wols | vovo4ka: failures leave error messages, don't they? |
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| 12:01.14 | schoppa | hi! |
| 12:01.30 | schoppa | where do I find old woody iso images ? |
| 12:01.58 | Mazingaro | blondie: :) |
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| 12:11.01 | simmerz | I've just seen the webdruid package in unstable. where is upstream? or how do i find those details? |
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| 12:23.02 | Mazingaro | blondie: yay0 has quit (K-lined) |
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| 12:24.23 | wols | simmerz: perhaps in its docs in /usr/share/doc |
| 12:24.31 | wols | or in the source |
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| 12:26.05 | Datentod | Is there a way to add mod_proxy to apache-ssl without doing source install? I searched packages but none seem to contain mod_proxy:( |
| 12:26.14 | Datentod | version 1.3 of apache |
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| 12:28.23 | nf1 | there's apache-ssl in the debian packages |
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| 12:29.03 | nf1 | did you check for .deb on packages.debian.org for proxy mod? |
| 12:29.09 | blondie | Mazingaro: lol |
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| 12:30.31 | Paras | room, in which file does the sound prefs save in users' folder? |
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| 12:31.21 | blondie | !room |
| 12:31.22 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 12:31.34 | blondie | Paras: what sound prefs? |
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| 12:32.02 | Paras | blondie, the volume level , pcm level that can be checked using aumix -q |
| 12:32.04 | Shadowcat | !folder |
| 12:32.05 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
| 12:32.07 | syntaxx | when i run nautilus on fluxbox it switch to gnome desktop how to fix it? |
| 12:32.35 | blondie | Paras: that would be a system-wide thing I should think, possibly stored in hardware rather than a file |
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| 12:33.29 | Paras | blondie, that means same settings for all the users? |
| 12:34.20 | blondie | Paras: yes |
| 12:34.21 | Paras | blondie, oh ! |
| 12:35.46 | Shadowcat | sometimes I wonder how these people ever find their way onto IRC in the first place |
| 12:35.56 | Paras | blondie, thanks !. i was looking for the file. damn |
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| 12:38.48 | Synuki | what does "E: Package gcc has no installation candidate" mean, when trying to use "apt-get install gcc"? |
| 12:39.13 | Shadowcat | probably means the gcc metapackage is broken |
| 12:39.39 | wols | Synuki: it's usually better to install build-essential |
| 12:39.55 | Synuki | what is that? |
| 12:40.05 | Synuki | i just installed the netinstall of debian today |
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| 12:40.27 | Shadowcat | debian what? |
| 12:40.29 | wols | !build-essential |
| 12:40.29 | dpkg | somebody said build-essential was If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package. This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. or apt-get install build-essential; to be able to compile shit |
| 12:40.30 | Shadowcat | what version? |
| 12:40.46 | wols | note hte last part "to be able to compile shit" |
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| 12:41.47 | Synuki | "Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux" |
| 12:42.07 | Shadowcat | that's not a debian version |
| 12:42.14 | wols | sarge then. have you configured your sources.list yet? |
| 12:42.16 | Shadowcat | that's a kernel version, but good enough |
| 12:42.39 | Synuki | wols: no |
| 12:42.45 | Synuki | i have no changed anything |
| 12:42.49 | Synuki | not* |
| 12:42.53 | Synuki | since it was installed |
| 12:42.54 | Shadowcat | how new are you to debian? |
| 12:43.07 | Synuki | well today is my first time using it |
| 12:43.14 | Synuki | never really used linux properly |
| 12:43.59 | Synuki | what needs configuring in sources.list? |
| 12:44.07 | Shadowcat | oh boy |
| 12:44.14 | Shadowcat | go read the debian reference / install guide |
| 12:44.22 | Fox | never really used english properly as well ? ;) |
| 12:44.37 | Shadowcat | seriously, we don't have time to tutor you in using debian |
| 12:44.44 | wols | !grounding |
| 12:44.44 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 12:44.46 | Shadowcat | there's a manual on the website, read it |
| 12:44.57 | Synuki | i will look |
| 12:44.57 | blondie | Fox: s/as well ?/either?/ |
| 12:44.59 | blondie | :P |
| 12:45.05 | Fox | gnagnagna :p |
| 12:45.18 | Shadowcat | again, it surprises me that some people can even find their way onto irc |
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| 12:45.40 | Synuki | i have used irc for years |
| 12:45.42 | wols | considering it's a non official channel it's really curious |
| 12:45.45 | Synuki | i am just new to linux |
| 12:46.00 | Shadowcat | maybe you should spend less time on IRC and more time reading the manaul |
| 12:46.02 | Shadowcat | manual* |
| 12:46.17 | wols | Synuki: but finding freenode and #debian on freenode is strange for a user totally new to linux or *nix in general |
| 12:46.42 | Synuki | wols: i do a lot of win32 programming, some of those channels are on this network |
| 12:46.42 | wols | Shadowcat: irc is more fun. where else would one find such fun and caring people like you? |
| 12:46.52 | blondie | wols: you can use irc on windows :( |
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| 12:47.16 | wols | blondie: I don't believe it. I heard there's an irssi version for win32, but I think that's just hearsay |
| 12:47.21 | Shadowcat | wols: stupid users on IRC is the reason admins practice defensive networking |
| 12:47.24 | Datentod | nf1: yeah I checked debian packages for proxy mod. none are listed. |
| 12:47.25 | wols | so there can't be any irc on windows. QED |
| 12:47.49 | blondie | wols: there's this piece of trash called "murk" or something I heard |
| 12:48.15 | wols | Synuki: you need to add a debian repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list so debian knows where to get packages |
| 12:48.30 | Shadowcat | no he needs to RTFM to figure out what he's doing |
| 12:48.38 | Shadowcat | or wols can tutor him for the rest of the week |
| 12:48.39 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 12:48.42 | wols | man sources.list should give you a good start |
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| 12:48.55 | wols | Shadowcat: you overestimate my patience kitty |
| 12:49.01 | vovo4ka | =\ |
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| 12:49.08 | vovo4ka | how to setup DVB on debian ? |
| 12:49.09 | Shadowcat | wols: you have patience? |
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| 12:49.37 | wols | blondie: I heard about that program too, but it certainly is no irc client. just can't be. it's a scripting language and a great way to propagate worms tho |
| 12:49.40 | styx-tdo | hi, does the snmp libsnmp5 do SSL? i seem to have difficulties there :& |
| 12:49.57 | Shadowcat | styx-tdo: read the library documentation? |
| 12:49.59 | wols | better ask the corpses in my basement who asked too many debian questions |
| 12:50.04 | wols | whatevre they say is probably right |
| 12:50.17 | wols | styx-tdo: or check its dependencies |
| 12:50.24 | wols | if there is no ssl mentioned, I'd say no |
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| 12:51.06 | styx-tdo | it's in the libsnmp5, but i cannot find it in ldd, there's just libcrypto.so.0.9.7 |
| 12:51.25 | joefoe | Synuki: when you did the netinstall you may have been asked to choose an apt source. For a netinstall, you should choose http or ftp. Since you've already installed, do as wois says and edit your /etc/apt/sources.list. Welcome to Debian, I hope you find it useful. :) |
| 12:51.35 | styx-tdo | and i got results that are likely to indicate it doesn't. or - anyone tried snmpv3 queries with SHA successfully? |
| 12:51.41 | Shadowcat | wtf |
| 12:51.51 | Shadowcat | what part of reading the documentation do you not understand? |
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| 12:52.10 | Shadowcat | "I don't know what this library contains, but instead of looking where it tells me I'll just guess by randomly poking around in its api" |
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| 12:52.27 | edi | hi. |
| 12:52.29 | nemo | oh god, snmp. I was just about to ask about cricket and if there are saner preferred tools. and what happened to snmpwalk?! |
| 12:52.33 | Datentod | Anyone know ehre I can get a package of mod_proxy for apache 1.3? |
| 12:52.35 | wols | libcrypto doesn't implement ssl I'd say or all those ssl libs I have on disk would be wasted |
| 12:52.49 | wols | !tell Datentod about search |
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| 12:53.11 | Datentod | bah I searched |
| 12:53.13 | Shadowcat | wols: I really implements, but I'll bet a 7900GTO the documentation will tell me |
| 12:53.23 | Shadowcat | don't really know what it implements* |
| 12:53.23 | stew | Datentod: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libproxy.so |
| 12:53.24 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 12:53.36 | Firestarter | After doing an apt-get upgrade my system does a kernel panic |
| 12:53.46 | Shadowcat | getting sleepy again |
| 12:53.48 | wols | "I really implements"? you're a quite versatile cat aren't you? |
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| 12:53.52 | woodyst | please, anyone knows how to compile debian packages (dpkg-buildpackage) with make -j16 for 16 parallel compilations? thanks |
| 12:53.58 | Firestarter | is there a way to get it bootble again |
| 12:53.59 | wols | damn. typed to slow :) |
| 12:54.01 | Shadowcat | wols: I'm sleepy, give me a break :P |
| 12:54.13 | wols | what else is new? |
| 12:54.13 | Shadowcat | Firestarter: what kernel? |
| 12:54.16 | azeem | woodyst: there is no general way, see the recent discussion on -devel |
| 12:54.26 | Firestarter | 2.6.8 |
| 12:54.28 | woodyst | thanks |
| 12:54.36 | Shadowcat | a kernel panic on sarge? |
| 12:54.37 | woodyst | i will try to edit rules files |
| 12:54.44 | Shadowcat | this should interest you |
| 12:54.44 | Firestarter | etch |
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| 12:54.54 | Shadowcat | why are you running 2.6.8 on etch? |
| 12:54.55 | wols | Firestarter: how exactly does it panic? |
| 12:54.59 | wols | rootfs not found or such? |
| 12:55.00 | stew | Shadowcat: ? |
| 12:55.28 | Firestarter | something about ramdisk |
| 12:55.38 | Shadowcat | oh, no yarid |
| 12:55.42 | Shadowcat | ya that might hurt |
| 12:56.11 | Datentod | stew: thankz:) I was searching for mod_proxy.so all the time:) |
| 12:56.31 | Firestarter | I used to be able to use my old kernel to fall back on but that kernel won't work sayes too old of kernel |
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| 12:56.57 | Shadowcat | that happens when you go from sarge to etch |
| 12:57.40 | Firestarter | Shadowcat: any way to fix it with a bootdisk |
| 12:57.56 | Shadowcat | not sure, that's why I poked stew |
| 12:59.42 | vovo4ka | how to compile dvb-kernel under debian ??? |
| 13:00.08 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: don't you realize that people aren't gonna help you by now? |
| 13:00.11 | burd_tu | Firestarter, You boot with the rescue disk, once you get in there you do what it told you to and you ignored.. I am sure when you pgraded it told you your system was broken until you built the initrd image.. when you rebooted it proved itself rigth :) |
| 13:00.22 | Shadowcat | I've finished a tv episode and you're still asking |
| 13:00.35 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: google for a guide |
| 13:00.40 | burd_tu | orrr.. you may just need to add initrd to your lilo config if thats what your using to boot |
| 13:00.41 | vovo4ka | Shadowcat, 8-( |
| 13:00.46 | Shadowcat | no one is going to tutor you in how to build a kernel |
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| 13:01.00 | vovo4ka | kernel build well |
| 13:01.04 | Shadowcat | burd_tu: no, sarge uses initrd-tools, etch uses yarid |
| 13:01.10 | vovo4ka | but not dvb-kernel |
| 13:01.14 | Shadowcat | so your first assumption was right |
| 13:01.24 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: there isn't a bloody difference between the two |
| 13:01.28 | Shadowcat | a kernel is a kernel is a kernel |
| 13:01.36 | burd_tu | Shadowcat since when.. I'm on an etch machine and I've never even heard of yarid |
| 13:01.39 | Shadowcat | you know how to build one you know how to build all of them |
| 13:01.47 | vovo4ka | ok... dvb-kernel-modules |
| 13:01.54 | Shadowcat | burd_tu: you've never upgraded a kernel on etch have you? |
| 13:02.03 | burd_tu | ( ) Linux testing/unstable : 2.6.15-1-k7, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.0.0 | : KDE: 3.5.3 | : X-Chat v.2.6.4 |
| 13:02.06 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: again, google for a guide |
| 13:02.10 | blame | I'm only able to navigate trough my windows via Alt-Tab combo. I don't see the open applications on the bottom panel. How can I fix that (gnome)? |
| 13:02.13 | vovo4ka | aha... |
| 13:02.36 | Shadowcat | burd_tu: exactly, latest kernel in etch is 2.6.16 if I recall correctly |
| 13:02.37 | stew | testing/unstable used initrd-tools yaird and initramfs-tools, but initrd-tools is only to be used for < 2.6.13 since its devfs based |
| 13:02.42 | Firestarter | my system didn't tell me it was broken |
| 13:02.52 | stew | Firestarter: it seems like it did |
| 13:02.58 | styx-tdo | ok. i ggogled, read what was there in the docs and still have no clue if netsnmp is compiled with SSL/SHA support. |
| 13:03.02 | burd_tu | Shadowcat, yah they just added it a week ago or so I believe |
| 13:03.05 | Shadowcat | Firestarter: it does, you just ignored it |
| 13:03.29 | Shadowcat | styx-tdo: ok now you look for people that know, prefarably in a programming channel |
| 13:03.39 | burd_tu | didn't feel like rebuilding all my kernel modules again hehe |
| 13:03.49 | stew | Firestarter: you can try to chroot in an build a new initrd with initrd-tools or with yaird. or you can install a current kenrel and build the initrd with initramfs-tools or yaird |
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| 13:04.04 | Shadowcat | there's a reason I haven't used a debian stock kernel in ages |
| 13:04.06 | stew | vovo4ka: what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:04.20 | vovo4ka | sarge3.1 |
| 13:04.30 | stew | vovo4ka: /msg dpkg stable 2.6.16 |
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| 13:04.54 | vovo4ka | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.01 | vovo4ka | sorry |
| 13:05.19 | stew | vovo4ka: i'm assuming you don't need anything that isn't already in the 2.6.16 kernel |
| 13:05.20 | vovo4ka | and? |
| 13:05.22 | meaw | hello guys, after i did dist-upgrade debian has update my ppp version and now im getting rp-pppoe server error |
| 13:05.32 | meaw | Jul 11 16:01:38 deb pppd[7677]: Plugin /etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so is for pppd version 2.4.3, this is 2.4.4 |
| 13:05.37 | stew | vovo4ka: follow those instructions which will get you a 2.6.16 kernel, which has dvb |
| 13:05.41 | Shadowcat | meaw: what version of debian? |
| 13:05.42 | vovo4ka | stew, 2.1.16 has dvb already? |
| 13:05.48 | Shadowcat | ¨WTF |
| 13:05.51 | vovo4ka | ah |
| 13:05.53 | meaw | Shadowcat, unstable |
| 13:05.56 | stew | vovo4ka: yes |
| 13:05.56 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: what part of this concept do you not get |
| 13:06.02 | eps | what is the meta package to install gnome? |
| 13:06.04 | eps | in unstable |
| 13:06.05 | Shadowcat | there's nothing called "DVB" in the linux kernel |
| 13:06.13 | stew | eps: "gnome" |
| 13:06.19 | stew | Shadowcat: yes, there is |
| 13:06.19 | eps | thanks stew |
| 13:06.19 | Shadowcat | they're just a bunch of modules; it's not a discrete unit |
| 13:06.25 | vovo4ka | dvb must be as modules... |
| 13:06.28 | meaw | i have 2 versions of the ppp now.. one is 2.4.3 and one 2.4.4 but still getting that error |
| 13:06.38 | Shadowcat | vovo4ka: then will you please call it dvb modules |
| 13:06.51 | vovo4ka | sure |
| 13:06.52 | Shadowcat | there isn't a magical switch in the kernel that you just enable and voila you have dvb |
| 13:06.54 | Firestarter | I was probably not paying attention when I was half asleep last night. Is there a way to get it booting? |
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| 13:07.40 | Shadowcat | and what stew just told you to do installs 2.6.16 with its dvb modules |
| 13:07.41 | blame | Why are my applications not shown on the bottom panel on gnome. I can only see them when using Alt-Tab combo.. |
| 13:07.49 | Shadowcat | 2.6.8 has a bunch of them as well if I recall correctly |
| 13:08.05 | Shadowcat | blame: so add the task switcher panel again; right click |
| 13:08.29 | Firestarter | Stew: chroot |
| 13:08.32 | Firestarter | ? |
| 13:08.42 | stew | Firestarter: yes |
| 13:08.44 | Shadowcat | you can't boot a system with a broken boot system |
| 13:08.44 | burd_tu | Firestarter, I've done it myself.. things like this make a person learn quick though ;) |
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| 13:08.59 | Shadowcat | so chroot is pretty much the only option |
| 13:09.24 | Firestarter | How do I do that? |
| 13:09.34 | Shadowcat | ... |
| 13:11.00 | stew | Firestarter: mount /your/root/device /target ; chroot /target ; mount /boot ; mount /proc ; then aptitude install linux-image-2.6-486 ; (or 686,k7,whatever depending on cpu) |
| 13:11.13 | blame | Shadowcat, a little more help please? |
| 13:11.27 | meaw | Shadowcat, i have 2 ppp version installed one is 2.4.3 and one is 2.4.4 but the rp-pppoe plugin listens on 2.4.4 i wanna it work with 2.4.3 |
| 13:11.36 | meaw | i have the 2 versions installed |
| 13:11.53 | meaw | and the pppoe server couldn't let users in because Jul 11 16:08:13 deb pppd[7762]: Plugin /etc/ppp/plugins/rp-pppoe.so is for pppd version 2.4.3, this is 2.4.4 |
| 13:12.29 | Firestarter | stew: do I need a bootdisk to mount? |
| 13:12.31 | stew | Firestarter: or if you want to try to recreate your current initrd, use "mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-$version $version" where $version is the exact version that matches the directory name in /lib/modules |
| 13:12.50 | Shadowcat | heh stew has way more patience than I do |
| 13:12.50 | stew | Firestarter: you need to boot something, a livecd or install cd perhaps. |
| 13:13.04 | Shadowcat | stew: knoppix recovery cd |
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| 13:13.43 | stew | Shadowcat: i didn't know such a thing existed |
| 13:14.04 | Shadowcat | otherwise known as a knoppix cd :P |
| 13:14.30 | burd_tu | Something interesting maybe.. this install of Debian i am using started out as potato around three years ago. It has spanned 4 machines and i always keep a clone of it across the room.. there is over 3000 packages installed lol.. dunno just interesting to see how flexible Debian/Linux is |
| 13:15.33 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 13:15.38 | vovo4ka | dvb-kernel compile failed in flexcop-pci.c : 50 |
| 13:15.41 | burd_tu | lol |
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| 13:17.43 | Firestarter | stew: thanks for your patience. Do you think the debian boot cd will work? |
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| 13:18.05 | Firestarter | stew: the one I used to install debian |
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| 13:19.01 | stew | Firestarter: yes. it should. other things to note. you might not have a separate /boot, so you might not need to mount it. if you get any complaints about /dev, then exit out of the chroot, "mount --bind /dev /target/dev" then "chroot /target" again and retry |
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| 13:19.28 | stew | Firestarter: are you a gnome user? do you have udev installed? |
| 13:19.49 | Firestarter | I don't think I had udev installed |
| 13:20.07 | farous | hi my time setting is messed up. the universal time is actually reporting my local time and vise versa. how can i correct tht |
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| 13:20.19 | abrotman | !time zone |
| 13:20.24 | abrotman | !timezone |
| 13:20.25 | dpkg | hmm... timezone is "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig |
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| 13:20.27 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:20.28 | stew | farous: /etc/default/rcS |
| 13:20.33 | abrotman | farous: /etc/default/rcS |
| 13:20.35 | abrotman | gah! |
| 13:20.45 | abrotman | i found the stupid thing last night .. |
| 13:20.48 | abrotman | feeble old mind |
| 13:20.50 | farous | abrotman: ok will try that i tried tzconfig and it did not work |
| 13:21.18 | abrotman | it won't .. you have to make a settting change in /etc/default/rcS |
| 13:21.38 | farous | abrotman: ok thanks will do that now :) |
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| 13:23.51 | xiaochuan | How about install the Tomcat? |
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| 13:25.26 | xored | i want to let my debian box ( server ) getting emails for me from diffrent/manageable accounts. I should the be able to connect ( e.g. iamp) to the server by an email client and read them. How to set this up / what is needed |
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| 13:25.32 | abrotman | xiaochuan: apt-cache search tomcat |
| 13:25.33 | cr3 | I have the following entry in my cron, as displayed by crontab -l, and nothing ever happens: * * * * * echo "foo" > /tmp/foo |
| 13:26.10 | styx-tdo | cr3 /bin/echo maybe |
| 13:26.19 | cr3 | I tried enabling cron.* in my syslog.conf, but nothing interesting is ever displayed in the log: just things like LIST when calling crontab -l |
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| 13:26.56 | Zotnix | hey all, I've tried google and everything I could. I'm getting a modules.conf boot error and I can't seem to get around it. |
| 13:27.07 | xiaochuan | abrotman: Thanks ! |
| 13:27.09 | stew | Zotnix: what is the error? |
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| 13:27.26 | Zotnix | modprobe: modprobe: invalid line 75 in /etc/modules.conf |
| 13:27.29 | cr3 | styx-tdo: I have just tried that, the minute has passed for the cron to apply, and still no file in /tmp |
| 13:27.29 | Zotnix | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.39 | Zotnix | Also for line 74 |
| 13:27.40 | abrotman | cr3: are the permissions on the crontab correct? |
| 13:27.45 | cr3 | styx-tdo: by the way, I have the same cron for my user and for the root user, and cron is running :) |
| 13:27.46 | Zotnix | and it looks those two errors very fast. |
| 13:27.50 | Zotnix | loops* |
| 13:28.03 | cr3 | abrotman: 600, user:crontab, in /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
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| 13:28.28 | cr3 | abrotman: I tried changing the permissions to 640 before, but that didn't make a difference |
| 13:28.44 | cr3 | it's really unfortunate that no errors are being logged anywhere considering there's definately an error somewhere |
| 13:28.55 | Zotnix | i tried booting into a LiveCD and commenting out the lines, tried chrooting and running update-modules. |
| 13:29.01 | stew | Zotnix: what is on line 74 and 75? |
| 13:29.20 | stew | Zotnix: what, did you comment out the lines in /etc/modules.conf? |
| 13:29.22 | styx-tdo | cr3 stop cron and start it in the foreground? what's in syslog? |
| 13:29.27 | Zotnix | 08:29 < Zotnix> # option sb o=0x22 irq=5 dma=1 |
| 13:29.27 | Zotnix | 08:29 < Zotnix> # option cs4232 io=0x530 dma=1 dma2=0 irq=5 |
| 13:29.45 | cr3 | styx-tdo: in syslog, I have cron.* logging to /var/log/cron.log, but that file contains nothing interesting. |
| 13:29.55 | cr3 | I will try running cron in the foreground, thanks for the suggestion |
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| 13:30.06 | Zotnix | stew: yes, even when uncommented they error |
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| 13:30.23 | Zotnix | I know you aren't supposed to update them by hand but the modules script didn't seem to quite work |
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| 13:30.28 | stew | Zotnix: if you edit modules.conf then run update-modules as you said you did, then your edits will be overwritten |
| 13:30.30 | zob000 | hi |
| 13:30.45 | drasko | what are the command for serial port communication. Is there any good terminal? I have device with linux in it connected over serial port. How to log into it? |
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| 13:31.08 | stew | Zotnix: i believe those should be options not option |
| 13:31.29 | cr3 | styx-tdo: a minute has passed while running cron in the foreground, and nothing is being displayed at all |
| 13:31.46 | zob000 | i have been googling to get apache2 *only* alow enables sites. i was able to get rid of the default page. but i still get directory listing. any pointers ? |
| 13:32.20 | xored | i want to let my debian box ( server ) getting emails for me from diffrent/manageable accounts. I should the be able to connect ( e.g. iamp) to the server by an email client and read them. How to set this up / what is needed |
| 13:32.38 | abrotman | drasko: minicom or kermit |
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| 13:32.53 | meppl | guten morgen |
| 13:33.01 | cr3 | xored: what email client are you using? |
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| 13:33.07 | Zotnix | stew: i'll try that. |
| 13:33.10 | xored | cr3: thunderbird |
| 13:33.11 | Zotnix | once this liveCD boots up. |
| 13:33.43 | drasko | abrotman, minicom is curses based terminal? And kermit? is it just a terminal... it looks like some network file system... |
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| 13:33.56 | xored | cr3: what i want is to have the emali stored on my server, the server itselfes gets the emails from the account ( located on other servers ) every 10 minuts or by request |
| 13:33.58 | cr3 | xored: you can setup multiple accounts in thunderbird, one for each imap server |
| 13:34.06 | zob000 | drasko, try minicom |
| 13:34.23 | xored | cr3: the accounts, are not imap, they are pop3, but the central server should use imap |
| 13:34.28 | cr3 | xored: does thunderbird support reading messages from an mbox or maildir? |
| 13:34.28 | abrotman | drasko: most use minicom .. i was just pointing out kermit |
| 13:34.40 | stew | xored: use fetchmail to retrieve messages on one server from other servers |
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| 13:34.41 | drasko | abrotman, zob000, is there any way to communicate with device via command line? |
| 13:34.49 | abrotman | !info ckermit sarge |
| 13:34.50 | dpkg | ckermit: (a serial and network communications package), section non-free/comm, is extra. Version: 211-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 1588 kB, Installed size: 2936 kB |
| 13:34.51 | xored | fetchmail |
| 13:34.51 | xored | ok |
| 13:35.01 | xored | stew: any good tutorials ? |
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| 13:35.10 | cr3 | stew: he probably wants to aggregate messages from multiple POP3 servers onto his own IMAP server |
| 13:35.22 | abrotman | drasko: why would you want to? |
| 13:35.34 | cr3 | stew: does fetchmail deliver to the MDA? |
| 13:35.35 | stew | xored: dunno, try /usr/share/doc/fetchmail and man fetchmailrc and man fetchmail |
| 13:35.41 | stew | cr3: it can |
| 13:35.45 | drasko | abrotman, just curious... |
| 13:36.03 | cberlo | Hi folks. can anyone help me get pam_mount working properly with ssh? I read the docs on using ssh_krb5 and made the mods it said to, but it's still not able to get my authentication token at login. I've only enabled pam_mount for sshd and gdm. |
| 13:36.05 | cr3 | stew: cool, so fetchmail should be the ideal tool then |
| 13:36.08 | zob000 | drasko, no idea .. i only used minicom. normally you dont want to open close the serial port. so there should be a way to pipe comands to minicom i guess |
| 13:36.34 | drasko | abrotman, zob000 thanks! |
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| 13:38.51 | Zotnix | stew: still spitting out the same error. it is like the kernel loads some kind of copy of the file somewhere |
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| 13:39.59 | stew | Zotnix: you should be editing the files in /etc/modutils then running update-modules, right? |
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| 13:40.24 | Zotnix | Lemme double check my method |
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| 13:45.30 | appelza | anyone know what package will provide : libdb2.so.2 |
| 13:46.24 | scimmia | hi... i'm trying last-exit from experimental... but i failed to insert the password... how can I reset it? |
| 13:46.52 | stew | scimmia: dpkg-reconfigure packagename? |
| 13:46.57 | styx-tdo | appelza pacgages.debian.org, content search |
| 13:47.02 | stew | appelza: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:47.29 | scimmia | stew, no... |
| 13:47.47 | dimir | appelza: libdb2 |
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| 13:51.30 | xored | stew: ok, fetchmail is not getting my email, how to set up a IMAP server now, the let this email be available for the clients ? |
| 13:52.18 | Zotnix | stew: Nope, no fix. I removed the lines via the file in /etc/modutils and ran update-modules and it is still giving the same exact error. |
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| 13:53.06 | stew | Zotnix: do the lines still appear in /etc/modules.conf? |
| 13:53.15 | stew | xored: do you know which imap server you wish to run? |
| 13:53.24 | Zotnix | stew: nope |
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| 13:54.26 | stew | Zotnix: so you get the error "modprobe: invalid line 75 in /etc/modules.conf"? what is now on line 75? or whatever line its complaining about? |
| 13:54.27 | xiaochuan | I install the Tomcat5 but where it's install.....? |
| 13:54.45 | xored | stew: i have absolutely no clue |
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| 13:54.57 | stew | xiaochuan: dpkg -L tomcat5 ; read /usr/share/doc/tomcat5/README.Debian |
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| 13:55.09 | Zotnix | stew: Rebooting to find out now. |
| 13:55.39 | xiaochuan | stew: Thanks! |
| 13:56.01 | stew | xored: if you want a recommendation, i'd recommend you "aptitude install dovecot-imapd" |
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| 13:56.57 | xored | stew: i`ll try it |
| 13:57.17 | stew | xored: then of course, read /usr/share/doc/dovecot*/README.Debian |
| 13:57.21 | Firestarter | what version kernel does knoppix 5.0.1 have? |
| 13:58.06 | Zotnix | stew: heh, nothing on the lines. |
| 13:58.42 | xiaochuan | J just set JAVA_HOME , will i restart the PC or not? |
| 13:58.42 | stew | Firestarter: if you are actually running it type "uname -r", but knoppix questions are off-topic here |
| 13:59.15 | stew | xiaochuan: you should not need to restart the pc |
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| 13:59.42 | Firestarter | stew: I was just wondering because I need a newer kernel to fix my broken system |
| 13:59.43 | stew | mixas: please keep it on topic |
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| 14:00.29 | xored | stew: just for the basics. The server is getting emails from diffrent acounts with fetchmail. Now iam setting up an imap server, which i will use for reading all that Emails. The only way to split the emails in thundbird in diffrent "dirs" is using a filter an the "TO" adress. Is it possible to do this filtering in the imap account itself ? |
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| 14:02.50 | stew | xored: yes, have fetchmail hand the mails to an MDA with the "mda" keyword, then have the mda do the filtering to multiple folders, maildrop and procmail are the common MDAs, procmail is more common, maildrop's syntax is (imho) easier |
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| 14:04.15 | joefoe_ | is there anyway to list packages by the date they were installed? |
| 14:04.19 | geemark | what does this mean? "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" |
| 14:04.29 | geemark | I have lots of those errors in my dmesg |
| 14:04.39 | geemark | all works fine thou |
| 14:05.35 | stew | joefoe_: what version of dpkg do you have installed? |
| 14:06.02 | joefoe_ | stew: 0.5.28.6 |
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| 14:06.33 | joefoe_ | stew: um, 1.10.28 |
| 14:07.19 | stew | joefoe_: then not really. 1.13 and later creates a log, but before that you'd have to do soemthing like look at file creation times somewhere |
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| 14:07.50 | xored | stew: so "to" is not my user, its mda then |
| 14:08.07 | xored | stew: where is the imap server stitting then ? |
| 14:08.19 | xored | fetchmail -> MDA -> imapserver -> client ? |
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| 14:08.55 | stew | xored: yes |
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| 14:09.18 | joefoe_ | At least it's something I can look forward to. Thanks for the info, stew |
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| 14:11.24 | xored | stew: i hope you get me right.I just wnat to split the email by (to) to diffrent imap folders, but one imap account. Was your howot for that setup ? |
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| 14:13.41 | wols | xored: yes the MDAs he mentioned can do it |
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| 14:15.19 | xored | wols: i cant find my email under /var/mail/username |
| 14:15.30 | xored | wols: but its not a folder, just a single file |
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| 14:16.06 | xored | shoudl i still use "maildir:/var/mail" in the dovecot.conf ? |
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| 14:16.19 | wols | xored: you need an imap server to have folders |
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| 14:16.41 | wols | you should use maildir format for your mail then |
| 14:16.42 | xored | wols: i have dovecot running now, or better iam configuring it |
| 14:16.52 | wols | otherwise: no folders |
| 14:16.55 | xored | wols: how to set this up ? |
| 14:17.08 | wols | no clue. never ever used dovecot. cyrus and courier only |
| 14:17.17 | xiaochuan | CLASSPATH=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/lib |
| 14:17.18 | xiaochuan | JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06 |
| 14:18.11 | xored | stew: could you help ? |
| 14:18.36 | wols | xored: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
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| 14:22.28 | deufo | hi, ever since using debian, windows explorer can't connect to be ftp server :( |
| 14:22.42 | deufo | can someone help me figure out y? |
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| 14:23.39 | abrotman | you need a password/ |
| 14:23.40 | abrotman | ? |
| 14:23.54 | wols | how do you try to connect to the ftp server? |
| 14:24.00 | xiaochuan | When I startup the Tomcat server The message show : The java_home environment variable is not defined ..But with the /etc/environment I set the JAVA_HOME AND CALSSPATH...? |
| 14:24.14 | deufo | wols, i type in ftp://192.168.1.4 |
| 14:24.30 | deufo | wols, it works if i ftp 192.168.1.4 under ms dos |
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| 14:25.15 | wols | then ask #windows wherever you can find it. ew can't troubleshoot exploder |
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| 14:26.25 | deufo | wols, but it works when i ran suse |
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| 14:27.00 | wols | do you have anonymous login enabled? |
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| 14:27.44 | eps | gnome won't install on unstable? |
| 14:27.46 | dorel__ | to completely backup one harddrive to another i can use "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" right? |
| 14:28.08 | wols | if the 2nd harddrive is at least as big as the first, yet |
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| 14:28.12 | wols | *yes |
| 14:28.12 | deufo | wols, nope |
| 14:28.18 | wols | and you will overwrite everything |
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| 14:28.22 | wols | deufo: then enable it |
| 14:28.56 | dorel__ | wols: so then after i take this 2nd hard drive and put it on a new system it'll be with the boot manager and everything right? |
| 14:29.16 | radu | hello there, i just installed sarge and I notice that I don`t have /etc/shadow, and all the hashes are in /etc/passwd, any tips on how to /etc/shadow for password hashes? |
| 14:29.27 | deufo | wols, but i dun want to let ppl log in as anonomous users |
| 14:29.58 | wols | then how is ftp:// supposed to work in explorer |
| 14:30.13 | wols | also: with a 192.168.1.4 no one outside you lan can log in unless you do port forwarding |
| 14:30.36 | deufo | wols, o rite |
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| 14:33.12 | deufo | wols, actually, i didn't make myself clear, when i access it with windows explorer, it lets me log in but times out after a while |
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| 14:34.11 | stew | xored: are the mail accounts on this server going to be real system accounts or virtual? |
| 14:34.44 | oggis__ | whoa |
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| 14:36.39 | eps | gnome is not installable in sid... is there a solution to this, I get an error that gnome-desktop-environment hates life |
| 14:38.15 | stew | eps: the large metapackages like gnome-desktop-environment are commonly broken in sid, install the individual components you actually need, and use the BTS to find workarounds |
| 14:38.43 | eps | righto :) |
| 14:39.13 | lunitik | eps: manually install gnome-desktop-environment ... what does it say is the real reason? (manually install whatever it says is bad too...) then file a bug if there's not already one... |
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| 14:39.42 | eps | still working on getting aptitude working again |
| 14:39.50 | eps | unstable seems less stable than I remember :P |
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| 14:40.22 | lunitik | eps: like stew said, meta packages break often... always have... |
| 14:40.45 | eps | indeed |
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| 14:44.35 | linrunix | hi everybody |
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| 14:44.54 | eps | hi :) |
| 14:45.11 | thefish_ | stay on topic, geez |
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| 14:46.05 | xored | stew: could i pm you ? |
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| 14:47.30 | stew | xored: its best if you keep it here so other can help/benefit. i will become unavailable at any moment |
| 14:47.32 | xored | stew: it owuld be great. The accounts on my server here at home are, i dont know. It will be one IMAP account, the server shoudl get mails by fetchmail, splitting in diffrent imap-folders for the same IMAP account. dovecot is running, i can connect, but there are no emails somehow. I think there is a problem with the storage of email (maildir/inbox or smth) |
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| 14:48.15 | stew | xored: which MDA are you using? |
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| 14:48.31 | ddfire | hi |
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| 14:49.09 | xored | stew: if iam understing right, postfix ( i just uninstalled sendmail) |
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| 14:49.50 | lunitik | xored: dpkg -l postfix ... you remove exim? |
| 14:49.52 | stew | xored: no, thats the mta, i'm talking about the delivery agent, the thing that is going to split stuff into folders for you |
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| 14:50.05 | stew | xored: either procmail or maildrop |
| 14:50.28 | xored | stew: ok one second |
| 14:50.31 | abrotman | streuner: guess who died! |
| 14:50.59 | wols | abrotman: whoever made you God? |
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| 14:51.07 | xored | stew: both procmail and maildrop are not isntalled |
| 14:51.12 | abrotman | wols: syd barret |
| 14:51.14 | streuner | don't fool me such nasty jokes! |
| 14:51.20 | abrotman | erm .. barrett |
| 14:51.31 | wols | overdose? |
| 14:51.37 | abrotman | http://www.yahoo.com/s/343774 |
| 14:52.26 | xored | stew: should i install one ? |
| 14:52.26 | streuner | fuck, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syd_Barrett |
| 14:52.43 | abrotman | i said that! |
| 14:52.56 | eps | I just was talking about him :| |
| 14:53.28 | xored | abrotman: could you help me a bit ? |
| 14:53.36 | abrotman | mebbe |
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| 14:54.25 | xored | abrotman: iam about to set up my linux-box for getting email with fetchmail ( cofnigured, working right now ) from diffrent acounts ( imap pop3 etc), the itself running a IMAP server(dovecot imapd is running, i can connect, but no emails ) |
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| 14:54.50 | wols | xored: cause postfix is not delivering them unless you configured your postfix |
| 14:55.00 | xored | abrotman: problem, i got / get no email to mail email dir cause i think the MDA is wrong / no installed |
| 14:55.05 | abrotman | xored: you have to have procmail put them where they need to go |
| 14:55.06 | wols | as stew said, install an MDA cause postfix alone can't do the sorting you want |
| 14:55.27 | wols | abrotman: not quite right. postfix can deliver them too, but no sorting |
| 14:55.30 | xored | abrotman: both procmail and maildrop are not isntalled. Wich should i choose? |
| 14:55.45 | abrotman | xored: wols says postfix can do it |
| 14:55.46 | wols | xored: look for a howto and choose whatever the howto uses |
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| 14:55.59 | wols | abrotman: not the sorting he wants to do |
| 14:56.05 | wols | only deliver to the inbox only |
| 14:56.06 | abrotman | oh |
| 14:56.08 | abrotman | sort? |
| 14:56.14 | abrotman | pshaw .. just hold in the 'd' key |
| 14:56.33 | wols | sort according to To: headers which will fail anyways since many mails, e.g. newletters and especially spam don't have proper To: headers |
| 14:56.36 | xored | abrotman: i want the server getting emails form diffrent acounts, srotingh them into one IAMP acount, but ddifrent folders |
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| 14:56.49 | abrotman | can't procmail do that? |
| 14:56.51 | wols | cause the To: header doesn't matter one iota to whom mail is delivered |
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| 14:57.37 | abrotman | but i'm also lazy .. go figure |
| 14:57.41 | wols | xored: look up what a mail header and what a mail envelope is. To: is part of the header and therefore irrelevant for delivery |
| 14:57.46 | xored | abrotman: i just want to filter the mails by the "reciever" of the mail, so my email adresses and put them into folders like : test@test.de and test1Qdomain.de |
| 14:58.38 | lunitik | abrotman: wondering to different servers for mail = lazy? |
| 14:58.38 | wols | lunitik: they might all end up in the same MUA :) |
| 14:58.38 | abrotman | wandering ? |
| 14:58.38 | xored | sorry but i have no clue what to do now :/ |
| 14:58.40 | lunitik | abrotman: that's like saying wondering to each post office to get snail mail is lazy, or something |
| 14:58.42 | xored | i install procmail, shoudl i keep postfix ? |
| 14:58.46 | abrotman | lunitik: wandering? |
| 14:58.47 | wols | as stew told you: read up on procmail or maildrop |
| 14:58.54 | xored | ok |
| 14:58.54 | lunitik | abrotman: sure? |
| 14:59.02 | xored | wols: keep postfix ? |
| 14:59.02 | wols | xored: procmail is an MDA, postfix is an MTA |
| 14:59.06 | wols | totally different things |
| 14:59.06 | abrotman | lunitik: if i weren't so lazy .. i'd setup fetchmail or something useful |
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| 14:59.21 | xored | "reading to get the diffrence" |
| 14:59.27 | wols | abrotman: that's not possible since fetchmail is actually unusable :) |
| 14:59.40 | wols | forwarding to a single MTA is the way to go :) |
| 14:59.57 | abrotman | wols: or that |
| 15:00.00 | lunitik | abrotman: I'm lazy enough that I have fetchmail set up, and have it getting all my mail for me... then I don't have to move ;) |
| 15:00.05 | ddfire | hi i need some help configurind a wifi card ENLWI-G madwifi/paste/60 all the spec |
| 15:00.43 | TARZEAU | FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT OF OPENOFFICE |
| 15:00.51 | TARZEAU | openoffice excel can't autosize cells? |
| 15:00.52 | lunitik | TARZEAU: duh |
| 15:01.07 | xored | wols: procmail installed. How to get, where he stores emails and how ( maildir / inbox ) |
| 15:01.10 | TARZEAU | i want microsoft excel |
| 15:01.14 | TARZEAU | i hate SUN |
| 15:01.15 | eps | excel can't autosize cells either |
| 15:01.19 | TARZEAU | eps: YES IT CAN |
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| 15:01.29 | xored | TARZEAU: i guess you leave ? :) |
| 15:01.35 | Assid | it doesnt autosize per se |
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| 15:01.40 | lunitik | TARZEAU: OpenOffice.org Calc ? should just be dragging top seperator thinger... or merging cells? |
| 15:01.42 | Assid | you gotta double click on boundary |
| 15:01.57 | nf1 | open offce calc CAN AUTOSIZE columns and rows! |
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| 15:02.25 | wols | TARZEAU: your keyboard's caps lock is more an more broken. how about a new one? |
| 15:02.29 | rnix | /etc/init.d/saslauthd start -> process doesn not write the pidfile at startup. i am using sarge-amd64. does anybody know this problem? |
| 15:02.54 | appelza | You are dead, you cannot speak. ktnxbaai |
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| 15:03.08 | eps | out of interest TARZEAU who is forcing you to use opensource? |
| 15:03.16 | xored | wols: where to find the procmail config file ? i cant event start the serveic with /etc/init.d/procmail |
| 15:03.18 | Fox | rnix: does saslauthd have the right to write in the directory where it's supposed to write the pidfile ? |
| 15:03.28 | raf256 | what is a GOOD (not fucked up and broken like gftp) X (prefferably gnome) sftp client? |
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| 15:03.47 | lunitik | eps: Microsoft and about $500 more than likely |
| 15:03.53 | wols | xored: /usr/share/doc/procmail is a start |
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| 15:04.03 | wols | procmail can have user config files or system wide |
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| 15:04.41 | eps | lunitik: interesting... I always thought windows users pirated their stuff anyway? so he is hardly being forced to use opensource |
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| 15:04.59 | xored | wols: cant find somthing like /root/.procmail or somthing |
| 15:05.18 | rnix | Fox: process runs as root and even creates the directory it should store the pidfile before. so this should not be the problem. the path is /var/spool/postfix/var/run... |
| 15:05.32 | bronze | xored - on most systems you have to configure sendmail (or your MTA) to use procmail |
| 15:05.41 | wols | xored: I can clearly see how you don't want to read manuals. come back if you're more willing |
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| 15:06.29 | lunitik | eps: people with morals do not pirate software |
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| 15:07.20 | lunitik | eps: most Debian users care about licensing ... they care about legal issues ... most of the userbase wouldn't pirate software |
| 15:07.20 | stew | xored: procmail would be called using the mda keyword in the fetchmail config file |
| 15:07.27 | eps | lunitik: people with moral value use opensource... we are talking about windows users here |
| 15:07.40 | stew | we shouldn't be talking about windows users here |
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| 15:07.46 | xored | stew: i will try |
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| 15:08.01 | Dabian | There is a "qemu -hda image", a "qemu -hdb image" .. what about a "qemu -hde image" ?!??? |
| 15:08.17 | Dabian | (Yes, I have asked in the (dead) qemu channel). |
| 15:08.43 | eps | speaking of licensing... time to folk over some cash for vmware |
| 15:08.51 | lunitik | eps: TARZEAU isn't a Windows user |
| 15:08.54 | Raimi | Dabian: qemu emulates only 4 IDE channels |
| 15:09.01 | Dabian | eps: vmware sucks. |
| 15:09.02 | lunitik | eps: *cough* QEMU *cough* |
| 15:09.03 | eps | stew gnome-core seems to install out of the box |
| 15:09.11 | eps | lunitik: he is an ex-windows user |
| 15:09.19 | Raimi | Dabian: feel free to ask me qemu questions later. i'm around, but not here |
| 15:09.21 | xored | st |
| 15:09.24 | eps | Dabian: it is all I have used :| |
| 15:09.25 | Fox | Dabian: what's the problem ? |
| 15:09.26 | lunitik | eps: you know this for a fact? |
| 15:09.41 | Dabian | Fox : Its unfree for one. |
| 15:09.41 | eps | qemu will do what I need? (a windows install so I can play aoe2 at the lan this weekend?) |
| 15:09.56 | Fox | eps: yep |
| 15:09.57 | xored | stew: ok i got the mails no in /var/mail/user, when runnin fetchmail. How to let dovecot reading that file ? its not maildir i guess |
| 15:09.58 | wols | eps: no. WINE might. Cedega too |
| 15:10.05 | Fox | hum |
| 15:10.07 | Dabian | eps: Possibly .. but why not get some wine instead? |
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| 15:10.40 | eps | lunitik: not as a fact no - as you can't auth any information over the internet... though I am rather certain as office only runs under windows natively (excluding mac of course) and if TARZEAU was a linux user he would grab cross over office and run office that way |
| 15:10.51 | lunitik | Fox: afaik, DirectX still sucks via VMWare and QEMU ... mainly because it wants to access the hardware, and linux won't let it |
| 15:10.51 | eps | Dabian: wine and cedega don't support directplay |
| 15:11.02 | Dabian | eps: Why not? |
| 15:11.04 | eps | so you can play aoe2 perfectly fine...but no network gaming support |
| 15:11.18 | Dabian | ok |
| 15:11.26 | eps | they don't want to put in the effort to support a dead tech |
| 15:11.29 | eps | no glory :P |
| 15:11.31 | wols | fox: qemu emulates a Cirrus Logic PCI videocard. not exactly gaming material |
| 15:11.33 | k31th | guys, i need a nice rackmount case that can take alot of hd's... or a decent priced NAS server ?any recomends? |
| 15:11.53 | wols | k31th: another channel for starters :) |
| 15:11.56 | eps | afaik it isn't that complicated to impliment...it is on my list of things to look at once I'm more familiar with dx and cpp |
| 15:11.57 | Fox | ok, it's been too long since I didn't play then :) |
| 15:12.13 | TARZEAU | eps: i know cross over office |
| 15:12.18 | TARZEAU | eps: and it's worse than vmware+windows |
| 15:12.21 | xored | stew: :/ |
| 15:12.33 | stew | xored: which mda are you using? |
| 15:12.35 | TARZEAU | eps: tried deploy cx on alot of machines? with the windows+office software? for alot of users? |
| 15:12.36 | wols | VMWare certainly isn't gaming capable either |
| 15:12.42 | eps | TARZEAU: odd, we use it very well on five test systems at work |
| 15:12.49 | TARZEAU | lunitik: oh yes i am also a windows user |
| 15:12.55 | eps | TARZEAU: yes |
| 15:13.00 | lunitik | TARZEAU: ew |
| 15:13.00 | TARZEAU | eps: one installation of the software for all users? |
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| 15:13.16 | wols | TARZEAU: you mean single image? |
| 15:13.29 | eps | TARZEAU: no, sixteen different soe's over 200 users |
| 15:13.31 | xored | xored: procmail |
| 15:13.37 | eps | using wine/cxoffice |
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| 15:13.44 | eps | it was hell |
| 15:13.49 | TARZEAU | eps: what's soe? |
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| 15:13.54 | TARZEAU | eps: we had it for cx3 |
| 15:13.58 | eps | though office is a piece of cake compared to the other rubbish win32 software we had |
| 15:14.05 | TARZEAU | eps: we don't have it anymore nor the updates for some good reason |
| 15:14.14 | TARZEAU | wols: i don't get what you mean by single image |
| 15:14.35 | eps | standard operating environment |
| 15:15.01 | wols | TARZEAU: nvm |
| 15:15.06 | eps | TARZEAU: so if linux and open source suck so much why do you bother with what us bottom feeders think is good? |
| 15:15.13 | eps | windows is waiting with open arms for you |
| 15:15.16 | TARZEAU | eps: i use free software |
| 15:15.36 | eps | why? |
| 15:15.37 | TARZEAU | eps: i'm saying what's bad so people who care can improve it |
| 15:15.44 | eps | if it sucks so much, why bother? |
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| 15:16.05 | TARZEAU | eps: because i have to use it |
| 15:16.10 | eps | TARZEAU: no, you are flaming and doing little to fix the problem |
| 15:16.18 | eps | for one, this isn't the 00o buglist |
| 15:16.26 | eps | you don't have to use it |
| 15:16.30 | Tallu | TARZEAU: what makes you use it? |
| 15:16.34 | eps | as I said, windows is there with loving arms |
| 15:16.35 | TARZEAU | eps: the document i had to update was done with it |
| 15:16.40 | TARZEAU | eps: so, no i had no alternative |
| 15:16.43 | eps | I don't see why you feel forced into this? |
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| 15:16.55 | TARZEAU | Tallu: idiots that create simple things that could be plaintext using OO crap |
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| 15:17.02 | TARZEAU | fucktards |
| 15:17.04 | stew | this discussion seems rather pointless. can we drop it? |
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| 15:17.07 | eps | TARZEAU: you had plenty of alternatives |
| 15:17.22 | eps | haha :P |
| 15:17.30 | eps | mmm I love flaming flamers |
| 15:17.42 | stew | eps: please dont |
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| 15:18.01 | xored | stew: waiting for you :/ |
| 15:18.10 | stew | xored: for what? |
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| 15:18.21 | xored | stew: ok i got the mails no in /var/mail/user, when runnin fetchmail. How to let dovecot reading that file ? its not maildir i guess |
| 15:18.28 | stew | 11:14 < stew> xored: which mda are you using? |
| 15:18.36 | xored | stew: procmail :) |
| 15:18.40 | eps | I have a partition, /dev/hdh4 and I get it's raw size from cat /proc/partitions... can I get that result in human readable some how...I'm to tired to do the conversion in my head (I think I'm about 11gig out) |
| 15:18.57 | stew | xored: did you set the MAILDIR environment variable in the procmailrc? |
| 15:18.59 | xored | <xored> xored: procmail |
| 15:19.05 | xored | sorry iam an idiot, higlighted myself |
| 15:19.08 | Dabian | eps: "Hehehehe heeeh!" |
| 15:19.18 | Dabian | :D |
| 15:19.23 | eps | df -h :) |
| 15:19.25 | eps | found it |
| 15:19.26 | xored | stew: is this setted up in the home directory of the user or just root ? |
| 15:19.36 | stew | xored: the user running procmail |
| 15:19.44 | stew | xored: (iirc) |
| 15:19.51 | Dabian | xored : You're an idiot, |
| 15:20.01 | Dabian | xored : by your own judgement. |
| 15:20.05 | stew | Dabian: there is no need for name calling |
| 15:20.23 | Dabian | stew : Ask da crew. |
| 15:20.23 | stew | Dabian: please keep it productive |
| 15:20.28 | stew | Dabian: huh? |
| 15:20.28 | Dabian | Ok ok .. |
| 15:20.45 | Dabian | Just home from work .. tired and annoying. |
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| 15:21.04 | xored | stew: procmail is a service, is it ? or is it just a script ? |
| 15:21.19 | stew | xored: its not a service |
| 15:21.26 | xored | stew: i cannot find it in init.d so its a script |
| 15:21.35 | xored | stew: ok, fine, so i go it |
| 15:21.48 | Fox | a daemon sometimes is a script you know :) |
| 15:21.56 | xored | stew: .procmailrc is not there right now |
| 15:22.16 | xored | Fox: yes it is, but then i would it find in the current running process :) |
| 15:22.25 | xored | Fox: but nvm, your right ofc |
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| 15:25.05 | shaibn | hi :) what does the .static in /dev/.static/dev/sda mean? |
| 15:25.18 | xored | stew: i just pcioked a example config fiel for my user ( root rigth now). So i can see, that procmail will use maildir then ? ( maildir ) |
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| 15:25.54 | azeem | shaibn: it's the static /dev tree which got diverted to /dev/.static by udev |
| 15:26.30 | shaibn | azeem, so which one do I need to use? |
| 15:26.40 | azeem | shaibn: what do you want to do? |
| 15:27.10 | shaibn | azeem, I have /dev/sda and /dev/.static/dev/sda ... which one do I need to use? |
| 15:27.18 | stew | xored: procmail CAN use maildir, but iirc will deliver to mbox by default. i haven't used procmail in 5 years or so, however |
| 15:27.36 | azeem | shaibn: /dev/sda, probably |
| 15:27.37 | wols | stew: "/" at the end of the delivery line and will deliver to maildir |
| 15:27.52 | stew | wols: tell xored, not me |
| 15:27.58 | wols | but xored is documentation resistent, so I dunno if you will have much luck unless you prechew evreything for him |
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| 15:29.01 | xored | wols: iam reading docs, iam reading howtos. But fighting with several things in the same time ( procmail / postifx / fetchmaiil dovecot) is not that easy |
| 15:29.02 | mha13 | how can i know where my mobile phone is in /dev ? |
| 15:29.03 | shaibn | azeem, can I delete the .static dir? |
| 15:29.10 | xored | stew: etchmail: SMTP< 550 <mda@localhost>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table |
| 15:29.16 | wols | xored: http://www.google.de/search?hs=YOe&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=debian+postfix+procmail+maildir&btnG=Suche&meta= |
| 15:29.38 | xored | stew: that what i got in my fetchmail log. so i guess iam using the wrong "mda" syntax |
| 15:29.59 | stew | xored: yes, that looks like you are trying to deliver to a user named mda, not to an mda named procmail |
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| 15:30.17 | xored | stew: poll domain protocol POP3 user user password MYPW to mda |
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| 15:30.35 | xored | thats my current .fetchmailrc, stew |
| 15:30.56 | wols | replace mda with your local username |
| 15:30.57 | stew | xored: i haven't memorized the fetchmailrc syntax. i'd have to look it up myself |
| 15:31.02 | wols | then configure postfix to use procmail |
| 15:31.22 | xored | iam on my way |
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| 15:31.43 | mha13 | i cannot find where my mobile phone is mounted ... (not in /dev/mobile etc .. ) |
| 15:31.58 | Dabian | xored: No offence .. I hope you didn't get it the wrong way. |
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| 15:32.01 | wols | mha13: checked dmesg yet? |
| 15:32.16 | xored | stew: are postfix and fetchmail are doing the same service i guess |
| 15:32.17 | wols | that is when you plug it in |
| 15:32.25 | wols | xored: no they don't |
| 15:32.26 | xored | Dabian: you were right, so its ok :) |
| 15:32.28 | DevilChaos | hi all im having problems with my mozilla browser wont open typed in terminal mozilla & and i got back [1] segmentation fault what can i do about this? |
| 15:32.40 | Dabian | xored : We're all IDIOTS :) |
| 15:32.47 | Dabian | xored : From time to time. :) |
| 15:32.51 | mha13 | wols:yep .. dmesg says usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
| 15:32.52 | mha13 | cdc_acm 2-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device |
| 15:32.52 | mha13 | usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 4 |
| 15:32.53 | mha13 | usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5 |
| 15:32.53 | mha13 | usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
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| 15:33.06 | stew | xored: no. postfix is an mta. procmail is an mda. |
| 15:33.10 | azeem | shaibn: it doesn't really take up space, so I wouldn't do it |
| 15:33.13 | Dabian | mha13: MHA disconnect, address #debian |
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| 15:33.21 | wols | stew: and what is fetchmail? |
| 15:33.21 | azeem | shaibn: it might be useful in case of emergencies when udev fails |
| 15:33.29 | gypsymauro | hello, suppose I've a internal dns, I want to forward internet requests to my ISP dns and forward some other (of an intranet) to the intranet dns (not mine..) there is a way to do this in bind? |
| 15:33.31 | stew | wols: a pop3/imap client |
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| 15:33.42 | wols | now you answered his question :) |
| 15:34.06 | Dabian | gypsymauro : Why not simply run a full dns-server? |
| 15:34.13 | wols | gypsymauro: can't you put the intranet ones in /etc/hosts? |
| 15:34.22 | xored | stew: ok got the syntax |
| 15:34.23 | shaibn | azeem, ok ... i just wondered by my disk controller decided to use the /dev/.static/sda and not /dev/sda ... |
| 15:34.27 | Dabian | gypsymauro sorry .. read your message again ... |
| 15:34.30 | wols | Dabian: bind is a full dns server. none is fuller :) |
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| 15:34.49 | azeem | shaibn: where is that referenced? |
| 15:34.51 | Dabian | wols : It doesn't have to be .. it can be configured in different ways ... |
| 15:35.18 | gypsymauro | wols: u mean intranet hosts? |
| 15:35.22 | burd_tu | gypsymauro, you can do this..but.. I would suggest a caching name server which you would forward queries to. Put the local server first in the list and the outside one second, then if it doesn't find it on the local, it will look elsewhere |
| 15:35.26 | Fox | gypsymauro: you want different answers depending of the sourci IP address of the request or did I misunderstand the question ? :) |
| 15:35.32 | Fox | s/sourci/source/ |
| 15:35.39 | shaibn | azeem, for example, when the raid is being built and mdadm --detail --scan shows that... |
| 15:35.50 | DevilChaos | anyone? |
| 15:35.55 | xored | stew: ok, procmail putted the mails into /root/Mail/ dir thats ok |
| 15:36.02 | azeem | shaibn: in that case, it would be a really bad idea to remove /dev/.static... |
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| 15:36.42 | Dabian | I don't remember having seen anyone, DevilChaos. |
| 15:36.43 | stew | xored: that's fine as long as you tell dovecot to look there |
| 15:36.49 | xored | stew: my problem now is, how to let fetchmail putting the mails into "myuser"/Mail folder. |
| 15:36.51 | DevilChaos | wido |
| 15:37.03 | stew | xored: are the users system users or virtual users? |
| 15:37.04 | Dabian | !dovecot |
| 15:37.04 | dpkg | i heard dovecot is an IMAP/POP3 server, written with security in mind. Easy to set up, and fast. Supporting mbox and maildir. http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dovecot.html |
| 15:37.06 | gypsymauro | no I want this.... query mydns www.google.com --> mydns forwards request to my isp dns... query mydns for www.myintranet.org --Z mydns forwards request to intranet dns |
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| 15:37.17 | xored | stew: system /local users |
| 15:37.32 | Dabian | stew: Is dovecot the way to go for local mailserver? |
| 15:37.41 | shaibn | azeem, but both /dev/sda and /dev/.static/dev/sda work the same ... |
| 15:37.43 | Fox | gypsymauro: ok, sure you can do that with bind |
| 15:37.51 | stew | Dabian: i think its one of the better alternatives for pop/imap |
| 15:38.04 | wols | Dabian: cyrus, courier, dovecot are all viable. stay away from uw-imapd or and pop3 only |
| 15:38.09 | gypsymauro | I dunno how, I done the first part |
| 15:38.21 | xored | stew: i mean, i have ran fetchmail as root and the .procmailrc is in /root/ ( not in my destination users home /home/user1 ) |
| 15:38.21 | gypsymauro | but I dunno how set up the second |
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| 15:38.48 | Dabian | What about HORDE ?!?? |
| 15:38.51 | Fox | gypsymauro: just say that your internal DNS is the master for "foo.com" zone |
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| 15:38.58 | Dabian | zly : God eftermiddag (english please). |
| 15:39.00 | xored | stew: but i need to run fetchmail as root, as .fetchmailrc is only readable by root ? or do i have to create an .fetchmailrc in /home/user1 and run it from there then ? |
| 15:39.06 | Fox | horde is overkill if you just want pop/imap isn't it ? |
| 15:39.25 | Dabian | Fox : Dunno .. I used to run dual mailserver sollution.. |
| 15:39.26 | zly | Dabian: hehe, good afternoon ;) |
| 15:39.31 | Dabian | tripple .. actually :) |
| 15:39.33 | Dabian | zly :) |
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| 15:40.08 | Dabian | zly : Kan eg jÃlp du? |
| 15:40.14 | b_52Free | debian:/home/mohammed# loadkeys fr-latin1 |
| 15:40.14 | b_52Free | Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-latin1.kmap.gz |
| 15:40.24 | Fox | Dabian: as you just said, english please :) |
| 15:40.27 | Dabian | (Sorry for spelling9 |
| 15:40.30 | b_52Free | but the keyboard still in qwerty |
| 15:40.38 | Dabian | Fox : It was english .. the spelling wasn't though. |
| 15:40.39 | DevilChaos | help |
| 15:40.44 | DevilChaos | im dying |
| 15:40.46 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 15:40.52 | Dabian | (Not to mention the accent). |
| 15:41.04 | stew | xored: there are several ways to handle it, you can use a "to" to hand the mail to postfix and let postfix worry about correctly calling procmail, or you can call procmail with HOME and MAILDIR set, something like: mda "HOME=/home/username MAILDIR=/home/username/Mail/ /usr/bin/procmail" |
| 15:41.18 | Tallu | Dabian: well, du isnt really english, with any accent :P |
| 15:41.26 | Tallu | in that context that is |
| 15:41.37 | Dabian | Tallu : Its pronounced almost as "you". |
| 15:42.24 | Tallu | Dabian: mea culpa :) |
| 15:42.27 | Dabian | zly : Kan jeg hjælpe dig? (Can I help you) |
| 15:42.58 | Dabian | Tallu : English please! :-P |
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| 15:43.19 | Dabian | Tallu (Just kidding) :) |
| 15:43.33 | Tallu | Dabian: haha :P |
| 15:43.45 | xored | stew: ah ok |
| 15:43.56 | gypsymauro | tanx:) |
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| 15:44.04 | zly | Dabian: your charset does not look nicely to me, but no, i am not in need of help at the moment ;) |
| 15:44.06 | xored | stew: why he is still not using maildir :R , i putted and / after the dir |
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| 15:44.27 | Dabian | zly : You will be shortly ... I'll send someone to make sure! :-) |
| 15:44.30 | zly | Dabian: in fact, i dont even run debian, i just like the channel ;) |
| 15:44.33 | zly | hehe |
| 15:44.34 | Dabian | zly : Just kidding - again. :-) |
| 15:44.47 | DevilChaos | ha ha |
| 15:45.07 | wols | you like #debian? seem we aren't nasty enough then |
| 15:45.11 | stew | xored: i don't know |
| 15:45.15 | DevilChaos | zly what distro do you run then if not debian? |
| 15:45.17 | Dabian | wols : Some like the bizarre, I guess. :-) |
| 15:45.52 | wols | xored: are you actually calling procmail from fetchmail? or are you feeding it into postfix directly? |
| 15:45.57 | zly | DevilChaos: random ones ;) mainly suse |
| 15:46.07 | wols | and if you do call procmail, what is in your procmailrc? |
| 15:46.07 | DevilChaos | 10.1? |
| 15:46.22 | wols | DevilChaos: that proves it. he's a masochist alright |
| 15:46.26 | Dabian | Which imap/pop3 runs well with SENDMAIL? |
| 15:46.27 | zly | DevilChaos: 10.0 atm |
| 15:47.02 | DevilChaos | lol yeah masachist |
| 15:47.06 | wols | Dabian: that's a trick question |
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| 15:47.12 | xored | wols: first one, calling procmail with fetchmail |
| 15:47.14 | Dabian | wols :P |
| 15:47.29 | wols | seriously, must it be sendmail? |
| 15:47.43 | Dabian | wols : I like sendmail .. |
| 15:47.45 | xored | ok wols , it woked now |
| 15:48.15 | Dabian | wols : Is there any decent GPL smtp-servers around? |
| 15:48.23 | wols | Dabian: any would work imho. e.g. cyrus can use lmtp and maildir isn't hard either |
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| 15:48.57 | wols | postfix. exim4 |
| 15:48.57 | Dabian | wols : I want multihomes ... or somethign .. I am considering hosting several domains .. most for myself .. some for others. |
| 15:49.08 | Dabian | postfix is ibm license. |
| 15:49.14 | stew | wols: postfix isn't GPL |
| 15:49.30 | wols | those are the good ones. qmail seems to haev a following and it's secure and all, but it's not developed, has a shitty license and does all kinds of un-unixish things |
| 15:49.38 | Dabian | exim seems rather fascist.. |
| 15:49.39 | wols | e.g. it's filesystem layout is bass-ackwards |
| 15:49.51 | wols | stew: oops. what is it then? |
| 15:50.22 | wols | IBM PL then |
| 15:50.22 | cougar` | What command can be used in Linux to test if a file exists? Or can that only be determined by using a bash script? |
| 15:50.22 | stew | and exim4 isn't gpl either |
| 15:50.35 | Dabian | wols : Which again isn't GPL-compatible. |
| 15:50.37 | xored | stew: ok, the last prob is, the permissions. The owner of /home/user1/Mail/mbox is no root |
| 15:50.49 | stew | actually maybe exim4 is |
| 15:51.04 | wols | xored: that's no maildir and won't give you easy folders |
| 15:51.10 | zly | cougar`: test |
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| 15:52.06 | Dabian | "/kick #debian cougar` Virus detected! Go away, you - the son of a female dog of dubious breed!" |
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| 15:52.29 | cougar` | Thanks zly |
| 15:52.36 | zly | ;) |
| 15:52.37 | stew | cougar`: test -e /path/to/file |
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| 15:52.55 | Dabian | cougar` : Just kidding .. I trust you know what the nick means? |
| 15:52.56 | stew | cougar`: (test is what gets called when you do somehting like [ -e file ]; in bash |
| 15:53.19 | cougar` | Dabian: Your nick? or mine? |
| 15:53.28 | cougar` | Dabian: No problem, I enjoy jokes :P |
| 15:53.30 | Dabian | cougar` : Yes. |
| 15:53.36 | Dabian | :D |
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| 15:53.54 | cougar` | Dabian: No I do not know what your nick maeans, the word debian with a typo? :P |
| 15:54.10 | heh_v_water | how do i change the motd in the console.. i changed /etc/motd but it only works with ssh logins |
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| 15:54.17 | Dabian | cougar` : My nick means crab .. but yours is known in malware circles. |
| 15:54.29 | cougar` | LOL |
| 15:54.33 | xored | stew: why he is creating the mails with the wrong users ? do i have to set the sticky bit ? |
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| 15:54.47 | cougar` | My name is the name of a form of mountain lio |
| 15:54.49 | cougar` | err lion* |
| 15:54.57 | sng | stew: Exim4 is GPLed. :) |
| 15:55.01 | Dabian | I didn't know that. |
| 15:55.05 | cougar` | Not an old lady like it says in the urban dictionary |
| 15:55.17 | cougar` | Dabian: Now you're jokin' with me right. |
| 15:55.20 | sng | Has been for a long time. |
| 15:55.33 | cahoot | cougar`: he's got his own page here: http://www.albany.edu/cuyt/ITC/dabian/index.html |
| 15:55.57 | Dabian | sng : I guess exim is worth considering .. how does it handle multihomes (several domains with virtuser tables), milters and so on? |
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| 15:56.26 | sng | Dabian: No, idea. Never used it. |
| 15:56.31 | cougar` | test -e is not coming back even when the file is not found. What should it be returning. Please keep in mind I'm not using this in a bash script, in this application I cannot. |
| 15:56.44 | Dabian | sng: YOu're a postfix kinda guy? |
| 15:56.56 | eamelink | Anyone can give me a hint on where to start when my USB mouse (part of a wireless keyboard/mouse combo) does not work like it should? Moving the mouse acts like scrolling, and pointer only goes up and down. Searching so far gave me mostly pages about making scrolling work, but moving seems more important to me at this stage :P |
| 15:57.10 | sng | Dabian: Used to be. |
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| 15:58.17 | Dabian | sng : Now you use sendmail or qmail ? |
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| 15:58.55 | el_alexluna | hi all! |
| 16:00.05 | sng | Dabian: Sendmail cause it's in base. (No not Debian's base but I also don't use Debian anymore.) |
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| 16:00.29 | xored | stew: everything is working now, except that permission issue, could you help a last time. fetchmail now gets the mails, creating maildir entrys in my /home/user1/Mail/mbox/ folder |
| 16:00.46 | xored | stew: the only problem is, that the files are onwed by root, instead of user1 |
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| 16:01.12 | dhaumann | what patches does the kernel 2.6.8 in debian sarge (3.1-r2) contain? |
| 16:01.27 | dhaumann | I remember kernel 2.6.8 being a problematic release ;) |
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| 16:01.44 | Fox | cougar`: if test -e fails then exit is 1, that's all you get |
| 16:01.45 | dhaumann | would be nice, if there were any infos about it. |
| 16:01.51 | Dabian | sng: You went back to slackware? |
| 16:02.09 | cougar` | Fox: how would I know if it returns a 1 when using it outside a bash script? |
| 16:02.13 | sng | Dabian: OpenBSD. :) |
| 16:02.17 | cougar` | Right now it just closes. |
| 16:02.17 | Dabian | ahh |
| 16:02.22 | cougar` | or ends |
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| 16:02.34 | Fox | cougar`: echo $? |
| 16:02.47 | lunitik | sng: you'll be back :P |
| 16:02.52 | Dabian | sng : You runs windows on your desktop?!?? |
| 16:03.24 | sng | Dabian: Why would I do that? |
| 16:03.41 | cougar` | Fox: Does not seem to be working. test -e /path/to/file;echo $ |
| 16:03.43 | sng | lunitik: No. Let's just leave it at that as I have no desire to start a flamewar. |
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| 16:04.20 | Fox | cougar`: try 'test -e file_that_exists && echo $?' and 'test -e file_that_does_not_exist' && echo $?' |
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| 16:06.17 | cubiq_ | Hello. What is the best way of updating my hostname on a MS DNS? I've tried nsupdate but it doesn't allow me to use the correct credentials |
| 16:06.33 | Dabian | cubiq_ : Hello. |
| 16:06.51 | Dabian | cubiq_ : What in the name of |
| 16:06.59 | cubiq | Dabian: Hello.. |
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| 16:07.05 | Dabian | cubiq_ : What in the name of **.. is MS DNS ?!?? |
| 16:07.28 | cubiq | Microsoft DNS server |
| 16:07.40 | stwelin | Hahaha. |
| 16:07.59 | Dabian | cubiq : Why don't you join "irc.microsoft.com" and /join #windows" ? |
| 16:08.04 | cubiq | I have a debian box in a Win 2k3 domain environment |
| 16:08.09 | cougar` | Hey zly, Stew, Fox: Thanks for helping me. |
| 16:08.15 | cougar` | I got it now. |
| 16:08.17 | zly | np ;) |
| 16:08.42 | stephen | hmm. |
| 16:09.00 | cubiq | Dabian: You are not very bright are you? If I had a win box I would but now I want to update from the deb box...that is not a win Q. |
| 16:09.08 | Fox | cougar`: i DIDN'T say 'echo $' but 'echo $?' |
| 16:09.46 | cubiq | Dabian: I don't know if you knew but you can't use ipconfig /registerDNS in Debian :P |
| 16:09.54 | Dabian | cubiq : You're very annoying, right? The case is I don't (want to) know how to deal with Microsoft DNS. |
| 16:10.07 | Dabian | cubiq : Hmm .. didn't know that.. |
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| 16:10.35 | wols | cubiq: from wher is nsupdate from? samba? |
| 16:10.49 | cubiq | Dabian: Then don't talk to me. Answer the Q if you can otherwise don't bother to write. |
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| 16:11.03 | cubiq | wols: No, its from BIND. |
| 16:11.15 | wols | cubiq: don't mind him, he's bored |
| 16:11.27 | cubiq | wols: I noticed :) |
| 16:11.31 | wols | THen I guess you better ask #bind or #dns. gettting an answer here is unlikely |
| 16:11.45 | Fox | bye people |
| 16:11.52 | cubiq | wols: ok, thx |
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| 16:13.10 | Dabian | cubiq : Don't bother to come here, we don't need your Micrsoft questions. Go home boy! |
| 16:13.20 | stew | Dabian: cubiq: stop. use ignore |
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| 16:14.46 | xored | :/ |
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| 16:15.22 | stew | xored: sounds like you should be handing mail off to postfix and let postfix call the mda |
| 16:15.32 | stew | xored: which i believe is what wols was suggesting |
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| 16:16.35 | J_P | hi all |
| 16:17.58 | wols | xored: look at this howto (in german); http://holl.co.at/howto-email/ |
| 16:18.39 | wols | it describes a howto for evreything you want except fetchmail. do what is in the howto first, then when that works add fetchmail. start small and expand. right now you try to do everything at once and that of course fails |
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| 16:22.15 | Dabian | !seen esr |
| 16:22.16 | dpkg | Dabian: i haven't seen 'esr' |
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| 16:23.29 | xored | wols: ive worked thorugh it before |
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| 16:23.44 | xored | to set up dovecot |
| 16:23.45 | Dabian | wols: You're probably right. |
| 16:23.51 | Dabian | ahh .. dovecot .. |
| 16:24.05 | Dabian | Is there any site that compares various mailsetups to help me decide? |
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| 16:26.13 | LinuxHelp | Hi, how do I setup nut for my ups? I have installed debian.testing.nut, but I dont know where to go next. |
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| 16:27.06 | wols | xored: I don't believe you. if you had followed it you already had a maildir setup long ago. ergo you didn't follow it |
| 16:27.20 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.27 | Dabian | xored : <insert proper insult> |
| 16:28.08 | FaithX | I need a mechanic to ask some questions of... |
| 16:28.11 | wols | can't you be boring and bored elsewhere Dabian? trolling is only so much fun for a while |
| 16:28.45 | Dabian | wols : You're right .. I do more harm than good. I guess I will check out dovecot .. thanks. |
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| 16:29.06 | FaithX | Dabian: courier |
| 16:29.14 | xored | wols: ye, i just lied to you. This would help me a lot, lieing to you. I dont get why you are so pessimistic...its not the first time, always the same.. |
| 16:29.32 | wols | cause I've seen it too often |
| 16:29.34 | LinuxHelp | omg ban d0rt for using Kde 8) |
| 16:29.59 | wols | people who don't want to read docs or howtos instead they come here and ask with every little problem effectively forcing people in here to do your work four you |
| 16:30.12 | LinuxHelp | people at KDE kant even spell |
| 16:30.18 | wols | it would be easier if you gave access to someone here abel to do it who then does it for you |
| 16:30.24 | Ronin | LinuxHelp: heh glass houses and stones comes to mind |
| 16:30.26 | yaarg | people at gnome can't code... |
| 16:30.29 | yaarg | that's a bigger problem imo |
| 16:30.30 | LinuxHelp | lol |
| 16:30.43 | FaithX | the kan spell wery gut inglish |
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| 16:31.26 | wols | FaithX: come back when you can speak or spell german. many kde devs are germans (kde started there) |
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| 16:32.22 | FaithX | wols: ok zer gut then |
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| 16:33.16 | FaithX | wols: was ist los? |
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| 16:34.00 | pollywog | anyone know if there are debs for TrueCrypt for Sarge? |
| 16:34.08 | wols | LinuxHelp: hopefully the maintainer did :) |
| 16:34.17 | LinuxHelp | wols :P |
| 16:34.27 | LinuxHelp | pollywog: www,backports.org |
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| 16:34.33 | pollywog | I only see debs for that distro that starts with a U |
| 16:34.35 | LinuxHelp | but I dont use sarge |
| 16:34.38 | pollywog | LinuxHelp: tnx |
| 16:34.46 | wols | LinuxHelp: tried /usr/share/doc or the nur homepage? |
| 16:35.03 | LinuxHelp | wols, its all disjointed, theres no "getting started" |
| 16:35.14 | wols | pollywog: cheat and try to compile their source under sarge, creating a deb |
| 16:35.54 | wols | pollywog: but first check packages.debian.org if truecrypt is in etch or sid |
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| 16:36.22 | pollywog | wols: tnx |
| 16:36.54 | Hotwire | hey guys, if there any package i can install to help me with partitioning, fdisk scares me i've done stuff wrong on it too many times, i could do with a nice gui |
| 16:37.06 | wols | cfdisk |
| 16:37.08 | wols | qtparted |
| 16:37.11 | xored | setuid is not allowed under linux, or ? |
| 16:37.15 | wols | gparted rather |
| 16:37.16 | Hotwire | cool thanks :) |
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| 16:37.39 | wols | xored: it is. but you shouldn't need it for a simple mailserver delivering mails |
| 16:38.31 | yun | hello, my speedtouch usb adslmodem does not work well, it randomly disconnected(4-30mins) with the following dmesg outputATM dev 0: usbatm_complete: urb 0xf746eec0 failed (-108)! |
| 16:39.12 | pollywog | truecrypt does not seem to be packaged for Debian |
| 16:39.26 | pollywog | but thanks for the tips on where to loook |
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| 16:41.26 | LinuxHelp | does apache work with inetd? |
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| 16:41.39 | LinuxHelp | or rather, does it conflict? |
| 16:41.54 | wols | why do you think it would? |
| 16:42.15 | wols | each debian install has inetd and many have apache. they get along fine |
| 16:42.33 | LinuxHelp | kthx |
| 16:42.51 | nixie | grmbl. |
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| 16:43.30 | LinuxHelp | and also, is there a way to display whats in /usr/share/doc/, through a web browser.. I'm sure I've a package like that somewhere |
| 16:43.42 | LinuxHelp | *seen |
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| 16:44.14 | LinuxHelp | dwww is what it was |
| 16:44.47 | infernix | on my sarge box with 2.6.16.20 (custom made for preempt and some drivers), when I compile sd_mod into the kernel, whenever I insert an usb device, scsi.agent complains it cannot load sd_mod. did something change inbetween 2.6.14 and 2.6.16 that could be the cause of this totally weird behaviour? |
| 16:45.26 | wols | why would it try to load it if it's already compiled in? have you tried compiling it as a module? |
| 16:46.07 | infernix | i have. if i do that, it complains that 'register_blkdev: cannot get major 8', and so on for majors 65-71 and 128-135 |
| 16:46.22 | infernix | i am puzzled as to why scsi.agent tries to load sd_mod when i am 100% sure its compile din |
| 16:46.46 | wols | scsi-agent config? debian kernels afaik use it as a module, no? |
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| 16:47.44 | LinuxHelp | I've never used apache before (only lighttpd), I'd like to install apache2, but is there the same amount of modules etc for apache2, as there is for apache1? or am I better off with apache1? |
| 16:48.04 | infernix | well it worked on 2.6.14.3, i'll try to force module |
| 16:48.19 | infernix | but im just confused about it |
| 16:48.30 | wols | apache1 has more modules but it's very unlikely you will miss anything with apache2 |
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| 16:48.41 | LinuxHelp | k |
| 16:48.41 | wols | most missing ones are obscure or closed source |
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| 16:54.49 | LinuxHelp | whats the gnome package that allows you to change your basic network settings? |
| 16:54.57 | LinuxHelp | the gui I mean |
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| 16:56.35 | eps | I've just fdisked a drive to set one partition |
| 16:56.42 | eps | how do I then format the partition? |
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| 16:57.42 | Ronin | LinuxHelp: you dont like nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:57.44 | xored | how letting procmail chaging the user, with which he writes the mails down ? cause somehow when he gets mails for a user, all mails hav the owner root, instead of the user |
| 16:58.35 | LinuxHelp | Ronin, nrly |
| 16:58.37 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: its in gnome-system-settings or whatever |
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| 16:59.42 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: umm, make that gnome-system-tools |
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| 17:02.15 | LinuxHelp | grr, I have to install the entire system tools thing, rather not. So anyway how do I change my domain name? |
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| 17:02.17 | stew | xored: you want postfix to change users, you don't want procmail running as root, it would be too dangerous. whne you setup procmail in master.cf you can set user=$user |
| 17:02.43 | LinuxHelp | Theres one entry in /etc/network/interfaces and another one in.. |
| 17:03.19 | xored | stew: i dont get it really, why i suddenly need postfix ? i mean the first setup was with fetchmail / procmail |
| 17:03.40 | stew | xored: then you need to run fetchmail as the user you want to deliver to, not as a system daemon |
| 17:03.47 | xored | stew: why procmail should not be run by root / how not ? as fetchmail is run by root, procmail will too ? |
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| 17:04.16 | xored | stew: but then the password can be read by this users, thats what i want to avoid |
| 17:04.24 | stew | xored: if you want to be able to let users set their own procmail rules, then you don't want it delivering as root, a user could then say, have his mail overwrite important system files |
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| 17:04.35 | lunitik | Ronin: nearly .. when in doubt... add vowels |
| 17:04.43 | stew | xored: if you want to run fetchmail as a system service then you need to hand the mails off to the local mta |
| 17:05.03 | LinuxHelp | I've give you guys a hint: ntrly |
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| 17:05.38 | xored | stew: so i got to ways : runnign fetchmail as the user, for with i want the mails to be delivered or i let fetchmal giving away the mails to the mta ( postfix) and he handles the rest, right ? |
| 17:05.54 | stew | xored: right |
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| 17:06.13 | xored | stew: to be exact, the right way will /would be the postfix thingy i guess |
| 17:06.15 | Ronin | lunitik: im too old to be l33t :) |
| 17:06.19 | LinuxHelp | lunitik, orly? |
| 17:06.34 | stew | xored: it depends on whether you want the user to control fetchmail or if you control it, i guess |
| 17:06.45 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: pretty sure correct response is like: yarly |
| 17:06.46 | stew | xored: like should the user be able to decide where to fetch from and how often |
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| 17:07.18 | LinuxHelp | Ronin: this isnt l33t, its the (not-so-)secret following of the orly owl. |
| 17:07.20 | typewriter | is there a more lightweight mta than postfix? |
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| 17:07.41 | LinuxHelp | lunitik, anyway yarly should be yrly |
| 17:07.51 | Edwin_Quijada | I need install a ftp server with resume capacity |
| 17:07.55 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: whatever :/ |
| 17:08.04 | Edwin_Quijada | what do u recomemed |
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| 17:08.05 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: you install gnome-system-tools yet? |
| 17:08.26 | LinuxHelp | (19:02:21) LinuxHelp: grr, I have to install the entire system tools thing, rather not. So anyway how do I change my domain name? |
| 17:08.34 | xored | stew: ok it works perfectly now |
| 17:08.57 | xored | stew: the last thing would be, that the system password of the suer is not the same as the imap password. Is there a way ? |
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| 17:09.14 | Ronin | LinuxHelp: you mean like hostname? |
| 17:09.33 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: /etc/hosts afaik |
| 17:09.40 | LinuxHelp | Ronin: I want to change from mshome.net to selfip.net |
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| 17:10.00 | LinuxHelp | prototypejack is my host name, therefor prototypejack.selfip.net |
| 17:10.22 | wols | smb.conf then |
| 17:10.32 | Ronin | Edwin_Quijada: ftp server? Pretty much anyone you prefer should be fine |
| 17:10.35 | wols | xored: virtual users |
| 17:10.59 | wols | Edwin_Quijada: vsftpd or proftpd |
| 17:11.38 | Edwin_Quijada | wols: one of this has resume |
| 17:11.48 | xored | wols: any howto ? virtual users for dovecot |
| 17:12.02 | LinuxHelp | Theres an entry in /etc/network/interfaces "dns-search mshome.net" |
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| 17:12.13 | wols | xored: it would be for postfix and dovecot both. postfix needs to know the virtual users too |
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| 17:12.26 | wols | and I dunno about dovecot since I don't use it |
| 17:12.36 | lunitik | LinuxHelp: umm, thats probably it then... |
| 17:12.44 | xored | wols: iam not using postfix |
| 17:12.50 | Ronin | Edwin_Quijada: they both do |
| 17:12.55 | wols | exim4? |
| 17:12.58 | LinuxHelp | lunitik, no I just asking whether that means there is a third file |
| 17:13.07 | xored | wols: nothing of both |
| 17:13.12 | wols | xored: what then? |
| 17:13.14 | LinuxHelp | apart from ..../interfaces and .../hosts |
| 17:13.18 | xored | wols: fetchmail / procmail |
| 17:13.28 | xored | and dovecot |
| 17:13.39 | LinuxHelp | ??? |
| 17:13.41 | wols | LinuxHelp: your WORRGROUP is sually also mshome |
| 17:13.45 | Edwin_Quijada | if my coneection close |
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| 17:13.53 | Edwin_Quijada | continue after |
| 17:14.03 | LinuxHelp | wols, yeah stuff like that is what I'm looking for |
| 17:14.16 | wols | as I said, smb.conf |
| 17:14.19 | wols | that should be it then |
| 17:14.23 | wols | Edwin_Quijada: I already told you |
| 17:14.31 | xored | stew: is there any way letting dovecot running a specific command, when a user connects ( for that user, e.g. a fetchmail ) |
| 17:14.48 | Edwin_Quijada | wols: okey! Thks! |
| 17:14.57 | wols | xored: make a cronjob for fetchmail |
| 17:15.04 | Edwin_Quijada | let me find out about that so |
| 17:15.09 | wols | or if you run it as a daemon, specify the waiting time before polling again |
| 17:15.39 | xored | wols: please just ignore me, thank you |
| 17:15.50 | LinuxHelp | wols, so I looked at that file and then decided to keep it mshome.net for the winpc's |
| 17:15.58 | LinuxHelp | just so that they dont get confused |
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| 17:16.33 | lunitik | xored: you don't appreciate getting help? there are people that will accept payment to provide the help... |
| 17:16.54 | lunitik | xored: then you get to dictate everything about the help |
| 17:16.56 | xored | lunitik: i dont think you get the point. |
| 17:17.25 | lunitik | xored: I get that you're not going to get any help at all now |
| 17:17.38 | LinuxHelp | apache 2 is soo fast |
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| 17:18.03 | wols | lighthttpd should be faster for static pages. as soon as you use php of course it crawls. CGI is the suck :) |
| 17:18.38 | LinuxHelp | what do you mean by suck? you mean CGI sucks? |
| 17:18.40 | xored | lunitik: so, i guess he is an important person in here |
| 17:18.54 | wols | if you have to use CGI for evrey page you serve with php, yes it sucks |
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| 17:19.00 | wols | xored: no I'm not |
| 17:19.04 | Octave_Octet | Hi. KDE control center is unable to find my cups server but still find the webserver on the port 631. Any idea ? (I know it's not a kde-related channel, but no one was able to answer my question on kde channels) |
| 17:19.05 | lunitik | xored: important enough that you shouldn't disrespect him for trying to help you |
| 17:19.56 | xored | lunitik: to be honest, he is respecting me more then several times, he is not even reading my questions, but answering and then critzising me by the way, iam asking |
| 17:19.59 | wols | xored: but it's usually frowned in here if someone tries to help someone and is rebuffed. if so, why help this guy at all? chances are any other guy gets rebuffed soon too. this often leads to the rebuffer getting no help at all |
| 17:20.12 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: I don't see you in #kde over the last 4 or so hours? |
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| 17:20.39 | xored | wols: you are just not reading my qustions at all. |
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| 17:20.58 | wols | that's fine. you're ignoring any suggestions I make too :) |
| 17:21.03 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: I got absolutely no answer there. Trying elsewhere |
| 17:21.24 | lunitik | xored: people have directed you at faq's... they have tried to hold your hand... you need to search google, and come back when you find a clue |
| 17:21.59 | lunitik | Enlightened users get more help than lazy users |
| 17:22.37 | wols | lunitik: not true. enlightened users get their tasks faster done tho. lazy ones stay in debian asking questions for literally weeks |
| 17:22.41 | xored | lunitik: iam not disrispected any help. I just asked wols to ignore me, cause first he is crizising me cause iam asking, but he is not even reading what iam asking. So what i want him to ignore me, not getting bothered by my questions |
| 17:22.46 | lunitik | No point helping someone that 1) won't help themselves and 2) won't even take your advise |
| 17:22.47 | LinuxHelp | omg apache is eating my memory |
| 17:23.12 | wols | you didn't think all those features were for free, did you? *g* |
| 17:23.14 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: well, I need at least the beginning of a hint. That problem is weird. At least I have had the idea to check the webserver |
| 17:23.19 | xored | LinuxHelp: try to configure the workers / preforks right |
| 17:24.22 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: without specific errors etc... best I can say is search for 'Kprinter CUPS' :/ |
| 17:24.55 | LinuxHelp | xored, there are four (4) apache processes.. two of which each use 224MB |
| 17:25.07 | LinuxHelp | when idle anyway |
| 17:25.49 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: Well, I have nothing more than that. Kprinter says cups server not found. And the webserver thinks everything is ok. The trail ends there |
| 17:26.03 | LinuxHelp | I think that.. its time for lighttpd |
| 17:26.13 | xored | LinuxHelp: is your server under heavy load ? |
| 17:26.45 | LinuxHelp | xored, well actually I think my gnome-system-monitor is crazy |
| 17:27.10 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: you're pointing it at the correct IP? the daemon is running? can you connect to the cups web service via the client machine? |
| 17:27.17 | xored | LinuxHelp: you missconfigured something. I have arround 80 / requests per second on my webserver, 10 preforks, where each gets 2% memory at maximum ( 2% of 1024'GB) |
| 17:27.28 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: can you at least ping the server machine from the client machine? |
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| 17:28.30 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: as I said, if I point to the webserver with a browser (at http://127.0.0.1:631) it works like a charm. I can print test pages and everything |
| 17:28.34 | wols | LinuxHelp: my idle apache2's use 6MB RES and 14MB VIRT. you clearly misconfigured something |
| 17:28.37 | lunitik | xored: surely you don't mean 2% of 1024 GB's ? |
| 17:28.42 | LinuxHelp | xored: true, the 224 MB is only virtual mem. but still it bothers me |
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| 17:29.41 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: Only kprinter fails (I just tested with openoffice, it prints) |
| 17:30.44 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: maybe try installing cupsys-client ? |
| 17:30.50 | xored | lunitik: i guess, i wrote that |
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| 17:31.13 | lunitik | xored: so your box has 1 TB mem? |
| 17:31.23 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: Already installed |
| 17:31.59 | wols | RAM is cheap nowadays |
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| 17:32.11 | wols | it clearly was a type lunitik |
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| 17:32.24 | wols | *typo, damn |
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| 17:34.17 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: no idea... can't even find anything enlightening via google :/ |
| 17:34.22 | eps | mmmm |
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| 17:34.34 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: [19:33] <JThundley> Octave_Octet: known bug, it doesn't work for any of us |
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| 17:34.57 | Octave_Octet | It seems a recent debian bug |
| 17:35.04 | Octave_Octet | The joys of unstable |
| 17:35.20 | lunitik | Octave_Octet: ahh... in Sid? |
| 17:35.23 | SerajewelKS | is there any logical reason why the testing cd set /requires/ a working network link? |
| 17:35.35 | Octave_Octet | lunitik: Yes |
| 17:35.43 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: you doing a netinst? |
| 17:36.01 | SerajewelKS | lunitik: i said "cd set," no? |
| 17:36.17 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: you can skip that step then :/ |
| 17:36.21 | wols | SerajewelKS: what does it want to do with the netlink? |
| 17:36.56 | SerajewelKS | wols: it refuses to continue without a working repository mirror |
| 17:37.04 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: hit back, and it will take you to the d-i menu... just go to whatever is next |
| 17:37.09 | Octave_Octet | Thanks anyway |
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| 17:37.29 | bloc76 | anyone out there running a stable server with mysql 5.0? |
| 17:38.14 | wols | bloc76: please ask your real question |
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| 17:38.27 | SerajewelKS | lunitik: one moment |
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| 17:38.47 | bloc76 | wols: what's the best way to install mysql 5 on stable |
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| 17:39.27 | philips | bloc76: http://backports.org/package.php?search=mysql |
| 17:39.29 | wols | backports or a simple sid backport I guess |
| 17:39.29 | lunitik | SerajewelKS: 'expert' is also an option of course |
| 17:39.30 | bloc76 | wols: or rather, what exeriences have others had with mysql 5 on stable |
| 17:39.47 | lunitik | wols: pretty sure its backports from testing |
| 17:40.18 | wols | lunitik: wherever. if you have to backport it yourself both are about equal I think |
| 17:40.36 | wols | that's whay I mentined backports (as in backports.org) first: easiest |
| 17:40.57 | bloc76 | wols: i'm a bit new to debian. is a backport good enough for a production server? |
| 17:41.27 | wols | depends on the backport. no guarantees... |
| 17:41.57 | philips | bloc76: it should be, they are official debian packages rebuilt for stable and maintained unofficially by debian developers |
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| 17:42.05 | lunitik | bloc76: its basically just testing stuff compiled for sarge... so it'll be testing code still, thus use with caution |
| 17:42.15 | philips | bloc76: but do note that security updates, and etc are slow to move into backports |
| 17:42.32 | kreg_work | i installed tftp "apt-get install tftpd" but i didn't get a /tftpboot directory made. anyone have experience? |
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| 17:42.44 | lunitik | bloc76: real question is: how much do you want MySQL 5, and how much do you trust their code on your platform? |
| 17:43.10 | bloc76 | lunitik: mysql 4.0 is completely useless to me. so i need it. |
| 17:43.31 | lunitik | bloc76: then you really don't have a choice... |
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| 17:43.43 | bloc76 | lunitik: use something other than debian is the choice |
| 17:43.47 | wols | bloc76: so you should be able to make the call yourself if mysql5 package is good enough for you |
| 17:44.04 | bloc76 | but i hate rpm based distros |
| 17:44.28 | wols | gentoo, ubuntu, slackware,... |
| 17:44.36 | lunitik | bloc76: other than CentOS, I'd struggle to trust anything else, unless you have money to kill |
| 17:44.48 | wols | tho, imho ununtu is never as stable and bugfree as debian stable, but that's imho |
| 17:45.20 | bloc76 | unbuntu is what i've been using for dev stuff the past couple of years which is why i'd much prefer debian |
| 17:45.21 | stew | bloc76: likely using a backport is your best option |
| 17:45.24 | bloc76 | for a production server |
| 17:45.36 | lunitik | wols: dapper - its long term support release - appears to be the worst yet... which is humourous |
| 17:45.53 | wols | lunitik: yep |
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| 17:47.07 | jair | in order for me toget latest software releases on cvs I just need a cvs client correct? |
| 17:47.11 | bloc76 | ubuntu seems to have better hardware recognition on install than debian :/ |
| 17:47.33 | jair | I will say apt-get install cvs and I am done |
| 17:47.37 | jair | ? |
| 17:47.41 | foo | Error: Template 'generic-host' specified in host definition could not be not found (config file '/etc/nagios/hosts.cfg', line 20) - Hmm. Any ideas on this? I was following the debian howto at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/299 |
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| 17:47.57 | azeem | jair: plus check out the respective cvs repository |
| 17:48.24 | jair | I copy it from a web site call sourceforge.net ;) |
| 17:48.31 | azeem | copy? |
| 17:48.39 | jair | azeem: I want to understand something though |
| 17:48.50 | jair | azeem: are you very familiar with the use of it? |
| 17:49.01 | azeem | ask the channel, not specific people |
| 17:49.27 | jair | I mean this is what I am accessing too-->cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@webcalendar.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/webcalendar login |
| 17:49.28 | lunitik | bloc76: thats just because they include proprietary drivers in the install routine, and a more recent kernel than sarge.. they use the same mechanism's as Debian however... |
| 17:49.41 | jair | azeem: ok thanks |
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| 17:50.49 | jair | cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/jair/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory I am getting this error when i am trying to access to a cvs pserver ;( |
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| 17:51.02 | jair | what this error means? |
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| 17:51.51 | stew | jair: that's not an error, its a warning |
| 17:52.17 | stew | jair: its ignorable |
| 17:52.23 | jair | stew: so what should I do? |
| 17:52.34 | stew | jair: ignore it |
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| 17:52.38 | jair | stew: I am not sure of what this is doing? |
| 17:53.14 | stew | jair: its checking if you have saved a password for this site in /home/jair/.cvspass so that it doesn't have to prompt you for one, since you don't have one saved it should prompt you for a password |
| 17:53.15 | jair | stew: I installed the package cvs to the debian and it was asking me for some questions, I accept all the default ones. |
| 17:53.46 | jair | stew: so i ignore it and then what I suppouse to do? |
| 17:53.52 | azeem | jair: continue |
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| 17:54.16 | azeem | jair: sourceforge has documentation on how to check out projects via cvs |
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| 17:54.32 | wizard123 | hi |
| 17:54.41 | jair | stew: I am trying to get the latest version of "webcalendar" php calendar from here--->cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@webcalendar.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/webcalendar login |
| 17:54.58 | stew | jair: yes, i saw that the first time you said it |
| 17:55.06 | foo | What is the name of the linux users file again? I totally forgot |
| 17:55.13 | stew | jair: you will need to do a checkout ofter this login, the website should have instructions |
| 17:55.15 | azeem | foo: /etc/passwd |
| 17:55.21 | foo | ahh, thanks |
| 17:55.38 | chrimo | Does anybody know if there is a documentation for installing etch-testing on software-raid1 and lvm ? I like to setup my server more hd-independant... |
| 17:55.40 | wizard123 | it is possible to install debian as basic system? just like we get after installing freebsd? |
| 17:55.48 | xored | is mysql md5 = plain-md5 of dovecot ? |
| 17:55.54 | jair | stew: I press enter and nothing happened? |
| 17:56.02 | stew | jair: then you are logged in |
| 17:56.03 | azeem | jair: that's expected |
| 17:56.10 | jair | ok |
| 17:56.20 | lunitik | wizard123: that is default install... just select 'manual package selection' and select your own, or something |
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| 17:56.26 | jair | so now I should be inside a server kind of ftp or ssh? |
| 17:56.32 | wizard123 | ok |
| 17:56.33 | azeem | jair: no |
| 17:56.37 | jair | so I can get the software application? |
| 17:56.38 | azeem | jair: how about you read the cvs book? |
| 17:56.43 | wizard123 | thanks lunitik |
| 17:56.46 | litb | hello neighbours! |
| 17:56.51 | azeem | jair: and/or the sourceforge cvs instructions |
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| 17:56.57 | litb | i have a question |
| 17:57.02 | jair | ok |
| 17:57.03 | wols | jair: stew told you what to do: go to sourceforge and read their documentation how to use CVS |
| 17:57.05 | my007ms | i want to use linux intelligent to make hard task i have 200 pic all of them have black banner in the page so i need to print them all with that black banner |
| 17:57.06 | litb | is there something like easyubuntu for debian too? |
| 17:57.16 | azeem | litb: not that I am aware of |
| 17:57.24 | wols | litb: no |
| 17:57.34 | litb | but how can i view wmv files under debian then? |
| 17:57.36 | jair | ok you send me there because either of you know how to use it either i bet. |
| 17:57.39 | litb | isn't that possible? |
| 17:57.42 | stoned | wmv |
| 17:57.44 | stoned | yes |
| 17:57.45 | lunitik | wizard123: not selecting anything seems to install a basic devel box also... although 'apt-get install dh-make build-essential' is recommended for source handling... |
| 17:57.45 | stoned | !dmm |
| 17:57.45 | dpkg | from memory, dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. http://debian-multimedia.org - Also see <marillat> factoid (/msg dpkg marillat) |
| 17:58.06 | jair | when i got it, I will tell all the newbies how to use it right here anytime, not need to go there and get frustrated and lost |
| 17:58.06 | wols | jair: you found us out! what should we do now? commit seppuku in shame? |
| 17:58.06 | stoned | you need w32codecs actually |
| 17:58.24 | jair | wols: specially you... thanks anyway |
| 17:58.53 | litb | i find it really ugly to have a mail transfer agent for a milimal debian installation |
| 17:59.09 | stoned | litb, apt-get install nullmailer |
| 17:59.11 | azeem | jair: the needed steps are trivial and well documented on every sourceforge project site |
| 17:59.16 | litb | i installed debian in a minimal configuration and had exim4 started on boot... |
| 17:59.27 | stoned | litb, nullmailer installation will remove exim and configure nullmailer |
| 17:59.31 | azeem | jair: as they are different for each project, it does not make sense to just quote them here |
| 17:59.49 | azeem | jair: I would have to go to sourceforge and look them up as well if I would like to tell you |
| 17:59.56 | jair | ANY newbie with questions about cvs will be welcome to ask me and I will HELP him instead send it back to the get lost. I am just teaching you something about the community suport IRC room, we are here to support not to send people to read and get frustrated and never comeback. |
| 17:59.59 | litb | stoned: uh, that's possible? great... although i purged exim4 and mutt and pine... :D |
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| 18:00.31 | stoned | litb, there is no such thing as easy ubuntu for debian. Tehy tried to make somehting of the sort for etch a while ago, and it was a desaster |
| 18:00.36 | stoned | disaster? |
| 18:00.37 | stoned | I can't spell |
| 18:00.47 | wols | stoned: why? any link what happened? |
| 18:00.55 | litb | why ? |
| 18:01.00 | stoned | wols, it used a lot of --force things |
| 18:01.06 | stoned | wols, typically broke systems |
| 18:01.15 | wols | then it's not a easybuntu but a automatix :) |
| 18:01.18 | stoned | even mine, yes yes I tried it, i know I'm lame |
| 18:01.23 | Ex-Cyber | jair: if there's something you don't understand about the instructions, you should ask about it; IRC support should be used as a supplement to documentation, not a replacement |
| 18:01.26 | stoned | yeah, whatever it was |
| 18:01.28 | stoned | hehe |
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| 18:02.11 | stoned | but reading for just maybe 1 hour or less, and doing a bit of work yourself, you can do what those automation scripts do. |
| 18:02.15 | stoned | which is much safer |
| 18:02.18 | wols | afaik easybuntu only got created when there was automatix, users were enthusiastic about it, used it, broke their systems. then the devs saw how bad it actually was and someone created easybuntu |
| 18:02.34 | wols | people don't want to read. see jair |
| 18:02.39 | stoned | lol |
| 18:02.42 | jair | Ex-Cyber: ok I am telling you that I am following the instructions and all I got is the $ prompt again. after do this: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@webcalendar.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/webcalendar login |
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| 18:02.54 | azeem | jair: and we told you that is expected and correct |
| 18:03.18 | azeem | 19:46 < stew> jair: you will need to do a checkout ofter this login, the website should have instructions |
| 18:03.21 | wols | jair: you need to run cvs at least twice. second time usually with parameter "co" for checkout |
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| 18:03.32 | stoned | jair, you know, usually anyone who puts in the effort to read the documentation can figure it out, its not that hard. Take your time and read the CVS docs |
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| 18:04.44 | jair | thanks |
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| 18:05.22 | larrikin | old packages ? |
| 18:05.29 | litb | who here uses sid as his desktop system? |
| 18:05.35 | azeem | larrikin: context? |
| 18:05.40 | litb | and can suggest it me? |
| 18:05.54 | azeem | litb: you shouldn't run sid if you cannot fix breakage yourself |
| 18:05.56 | larrikin | azeem: looking for.. tried archives.debian.org |
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| 18:06.02 | azeem | larrikin: snapshot.debian.net |
| 18:06.11 | larrikin | azeem: thanks |
| 18:06.18 | litb | azeem: but testing is fairly working? |
| 18:06.35 | azeem | litb: yes, or at least we will help you when it breaks |
| 18:06.49 | litb | :D that's fine |
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| 18:07.00 | azeem | what's wrong with stable? |
| 18:07.08 | litb | uh, too old... |
| 18:07.09 | azeem | testing is quite less stable than stable... |
| 18:07.14 | litb | i don't want to use kde 3.3 or so |
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| 18:07.22 | azeem | litb: oh, you're elite? |
| 18:07.26 | usn | hi folx |
| 18:07.34 | litb | yes, i'm on bleeding edge |
| 18:07.48 | azeem | litb: you might want to reconsider using Debian then |
| 18:07.54 | stoned | lol |
| 18:07.59 | simonrvn | holy... |
| 18:08.03 | litb | i couldn't use nvidia binary drivers with stable probably... |
| 18:08.16 | stoned | simonrvn, dude I'm downloading Hackers 1995 The Movie |
| 18:08.17 | stoned | lol |
| 18:08.20 | stoned | as we speak hehe |
| 18:08.35 | simonrvn | seen that. it's good |
| 18:08.37 | stoned | "I'm elite" |
| 18:08.38 | stoned | hehe |
| 18:08.49 | litb | azeem: why? debian is a great stable system. i use it at work and it doesn't crash whatever i do |
| 18:09.12 | stoned | simonrvn, how about Wargames |
| 18:09.34 | stoned | Those were the movies that made me want to be a system/network security officer |
| 18:09.42 | simonrvn | i need to get out... it's beautiful out and not too hot. yup seen that. gonna go to the friendship centre, take my time and enjoy the sun |
| 18:09.42 | azeem | litb: yes, because you use stable |
| 18:09.45 | stoned | And now that is what I am going to school for too |
| 18:09.51 | azeem | that changes if you start using testing/unstable |
| 18:09.55 | litb | azeem: oh no, i use testing/unstable |
| 18:10.04 | stoned | simonrvn, I'm about to go to class in a bit too, have fun buddy |
| 18:10.10 | azeem | litb: it's a matter of time then |
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| 18:10.37 | simonrvn | you too |
| 18:10.56 | stoned | word |
| 18:11.23 | eps | haha a movie gets you into computing... |
| 18:11.47 | litb | azeem: would you say debian testing is more unstable than kubuntu? |
| 18:12.09 | eps | hahahaha |
| 18:12.13 | azeem | litb: I don't know, probably |
| 18:12.16 | stoned | umm, that is a question better suited for #ubuntu |
| 18:12.25 | azeem | litb: it's a moving target |
| 18:13.08 | xored | stew: do you now, how to let dovecot run a specific command, when a user connects ( fetchmail), so i can check mails on "request" |
| 18:14.01 | stew | xored: i don't know |
| 18:14.33 | xored | stew: thank you anyway. Got virtual users based on mysql running now, this is the last task for me now |
| 18:18.19 | my007ms | can vsftpd limit concrete login per user |
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| 18:21.39 | orge | is it safe to rm /tmp ? |
| 18:21.47 | orge | coz its a waste of space |
| 18:22.01 | simonrvn | are you f'ing serious? |
| 18:22.21 | Ronin | orge: that would be a big no in case you missed it |
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| 18:23.27 | wols | orge: you usually can delete very old files in /tmp |
| 18:23.42 | wols | sometimes for some reason or other, a program doesn't clean up after itself |
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| 18:24.51 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:29.52 | orge | Setting up ppp (2.4.3-20050321+2sarge1) ... |
| 18:29.52 | orge | /var/lib/dpkg/info/ppp.postinst: line 64: 29156 Segmentation fault update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 3 4 5 . stop 86 0 1 6 . >/dev/null |
| 18:29.58 | orge | what the hell is this? |
| 18:30.08 | orge | it happened after i 'apt-get upgrade' |
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| 18:31.02 | wols | some program just crashed. can you rule out flaky hardware, like memory? |
| 18:31.11 | wols | or maybe it's hot were you are right now? |
| 18:31.14 | wols | just try it again |
| 18:31.32 | dimir | orge: do you really need that ppp thing? |
| 18:31.58 | stoned | seems like he has cable, but wants to configur dialup for backup maybe? |
| 18:32.00 | dimir | orge: is your disk space not full? |
| 18:32.01 | stoned | who knows |
| 18:32.54 | wols | ppp is installed by default even with netinst (could be someone needs ppp to upgrade), so when he upgrades it's of course upgraded too |
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| 18:36.05 | orge | dimir: not really |
| 18:36.11 | h3xis | is there an attributed that i can use with chmod that will allow the set permissions to apply to not just the remote dir but to the subdirs as well? |
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| 18:37.11 | orge | yeah i got cable, and i don't know why it upgraded ppp |
| 18:37.28 | wols | then do what dimir suggested: remove it |
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| 18:37.43 | wols | people on dsl often need it when they want to use debian repositories so it's in the base install |
| 18:38.12 | orge | well, its already here when i installed sarge, so i think ill just keep it |
| 18:38.16 | orge | just in case |
| 18:38.26 | orge | it may fuck my shit up |
| 18:38.30 | orge | if i uninstall it |
| 18:38.46 | wols | so did re-upgrading it work? |
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| 18:39.34 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, my root user is getting a lot of email with this subject: Cron <smmsp@igluve> test -x /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp and the text: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: line 820: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: No such file or directory. I checked root crontab and it's not there, and smmps, and it's not there either. I'm not using sendmail but postfix. Anyone has had this issue? |
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| 18:40.01 | dpm | after adding deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free to my sources list and doing an apt-get update, I get the following error: |
| 18:40.05 | dpm | W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
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| 18:40.14 | LoRez | Maquiavelo: purge sendmail |
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| 18:40.36 | dpm | is there something wrong with the unstable repos? |
| 18:40.38 | Maquiavelo | purge ? |
| 18:40.47 | LoRez | Maquiavelo: dpkg --purge sendmail |
| 18:40.52 | Maquiavelo | oh with dkpg |
| 18:40.53 | Maquiavelo | ok |
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| 18:41.10 | Maquiavelo | LoRez dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove sendmail which isn't installed. |
| 18:41.15 | orge | wols: i don't know why it upgaded ppp, im on cable |
| 18:41.25 | orge | upgraded* |
| 18:41.46 | De_Mon | svn merge doesn't seem to work at a file level, am I doin something wrong? |
| 18:41.48 | LoRez | Maquiavelo: root will also get mails from cron for /etc/cron.* |
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| 18:42.08 | wols | orge: cause you have ppp installed from the netinst or base install and a newer version is available. so of course it got upgraded |
| 18:42.53 | Maquiavelo | LoRez Foudn it |
| 18:42.54 | wols | orge: e.g. me needs pppd always since my dsl uses pppoe. unless I have ppp automatically after installing I could never install anything else |
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| 18:43.21 | orge | i see, i feel you on your first statement |
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| 18:47.11 | scarface | hi |
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| 18:47.33 | tzard | how to copy file from directory to another? |
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| 18:48.23 | rohan | how do i get apt to print out the url's of pkgs to be downloaded ? --print-uris doesnt give it in wget -i form :D |
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| 18:49.43 | SerajewelKS | tzard: cp |
| 18:50.19 | SerajewelKS | rohan: pipe it to awk |
| 18:50.55 | rohan | nice idea, ty :D |
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| 18:51.09 | SerajewelKS | !:D |
| 18:51.10 | dpkg | :D!!! |
| 18:51.27 | rohan | lol |
| 18:51.36 | SerajewelKS | !lol |
| 18:51.36 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 18:52.13 | streuner | lpl |
| 18:52.14 | rohan | lol :P |
| 18:52.24 | streuner | s/lpl/lol/ ;-) |
| 18:52.49 | VolVE | Anyone know how I can see what the default ttf file rrdgraph is using? :-/ |
| 18:53.05 | SerajewelKS | strace! |
| 18:53.39 | stoned | the thing that annoyes me most |
| 18:53.40 | stoned | is lololol |
| 18:53.41 | litb | have you ever tried running yakuake from outside of KDE ? |
| 18:53.43 | stoned | or loooool |
| 18:53.48 | litb | thats an experience... |
| 18:53.48 | stoned | fucking morons |
| 18:53.48 | stoned | :/ |
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| 18:54.04 | stoned | oh, and those paki/indian lolz aare fucking even more annoying |
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| 18:54.13 | stoned | and the mixed caps too |
| 18:54.21 | stoned | damn, there is a lot of shit that annoys me |
| 18:54.30 | SerajewelKS | stoned: "omgz" bugs the shit out of me |
| 18:54.32 | wols | stoned: just call it all leetspeak and be done with it |
| 18:54.56 | SerajewelKS | wols: it's called aolbonics |
| 18:54.59 | stoned | wols, don't tell me to be done with shit. I'll be done when I'm done, thanks btw |
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| 18:55.40 | rohan | also, any idea when the python 2.3 -> 2.4 transition is gonna happen ? |
| 18:55.47 | streuner | you are going to get a 'bad feeling' if you think too much about lolz and stuff :-) |
| 18:55.47 | wols | SerajewelKS: aol has it's own country now? when it already has a language? |
| 18:55.50 | SerajewelKS | wols: and don't joke around with stoned if you want your head to remain on your shoulders |
| 18:56.18 | wols | SerajewelKS: stoned is easy. he doesn't understand sarcasm :) |
| 18:56.21 | rohan | StereoSkit: wtF do you mean by paki india lolz |
| 18:56.27 | rohan | errr |
| 18:56.29 | stoned | no, sarcasm is lost/wasted on me |
| 18:56.32 | rohan | stoned: wtF do you mean by paki india lolz |
| 18:56.39 | stoned | rohan, dont' worry about it |
| 18:56.44 | streuner | stoned: you are usually more funny... |
| 18:56.47 | rohan | stoned: i am indian :P |
| 18:56.52 | rohan | and i know no such lolz :D |
| 18:56.57 | stoned | and so am I |
| 18:57.09 | rohan | stoned: mumbai ? |
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| 18:57.42 | stoned | actually no. I am racially Indian, but nationally Pakistani |
| 18:58.01 | SerajewelKS | i'm starting to wonder how long it will take to get used to dvorak |
| 18:58.10 | rohan | ok, stoned |
| 18:58.10 | streuner | heh, i thought you live in the states |
| 18:58.14 | stoned | streuner, yeah I know man, I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't like people telling me shit |
| 18:58.17 | stoned | :) |
| 18:58.36 | SerajewelKS | stoned: lighten up! er... oops |
| 18:58.37 | Ronin | paki/indian lolz? |
| 18:58.49 | stoned | omg, wtf did I start |
| 18:58.53 | Ronin | just curious |
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| 19:00.19 | stoned | man, Andy C. is by far the best Drum & Bass/Jungle I've ever heard |
| 19:00.41 | streuner | what he playing, Rock? |
| 19:00.47 | stoned | here |
| 19:00.51 | stoned | spam alert |
| 19:00.52 | stoned | NP: Andy C. -|- Nightlife, Vol. 3 -|- " Black Hawk Down " -|- (Drum & Bass) -|- (rating: 0/66) |
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| 19:01.39 | scarface | hm |
| 19:01.39 | stoned | electonica basically, but very very fast beats and stuff |
| 19:01.39 | stoned | ok |
| 19:01.39 | stoned | well, think The Prodigy on steroids |
| 19:02.18 | stoned | Usually nothin below 160-200 bpm |
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| 19:02.38 | streuner | Doesn't electronica tends to sound like POP :-) |
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| 19:02.49 | stoned | c'mon man you know me, no |
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| 19:02.50 | stoned | hehe |
| 19:02.53 | wols | only if it's in the charts |
| 19:02.59 | scarface | is it possible to log on on a linux machine from putty through the network and have actually X / blackbox running and operating it? |
| 19:03.03 | streuner | wols: haha |
| 19:03.25 | stoned | scarface, yes |
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| 19:03.34 | wols | scarface: you need an xserver on the windows side |
| 19:03.35 | stoned | scarface, /etc/ssh/sshd_conf or some thing |
| 19:03.36 | scarface | stoned how to set it up? |
| 19:03.58 | scarface | wols not just putty? |
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| 19:04.02 | stoned | scarface, enable X11Forwarding on sshd, then run Xming or somehting in windows, and configure putty to be able to use X |
| 19:04.14 | stoned | scarface, not hard, many tutorials on google, search around |
| 19:04.16 | wols | scarface: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ssh.html |
| 19:04.22 | wols | no. putty is text only. nothing else |
| 19:04.35 | wols | the link I pasted shows what you want |
| 19:04.39 | stoned | wols, putty is able to do that |
| 19:04.44 | stoned | wols, I do it |
| 19:04.45 | scarface | thank you |
| 19:04.52 | wols | stoned: display X windows? |
| 19:04.58 | stoned | wols, read what I said again pleae |
| 19:05.23 | wols | and I said putty is text only. so what's wrong about that? |
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| 19:06.10 | stoned | he btw, doesn't want xdmcp, he wants ssh X11forwarding |
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| 19:08.01 | DinamikDNS | hi everyone. what is command for copying one folder to another place?? |
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| 19:08.24 | stoned | DinamikDNS, man cp |
| 19:08.27 | DinamikDNS | i tried but |
| 19:08.45 | DinamikDNS | i do not understand well about synopsis :) just a simle command i want |
| 19:08.50 | DinamikDNS | copying one folder :) |
| 19:08.55 | stoned | ooh, time to drop the kids off at the pool |
| 19:09.03 | DinamikDNS | :) |
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| 19:09.22 | DinamikDNS | i am new(even very new)biee |
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| 19:11.14 | bernouli | anyone knows any good timer/stopwatch programm? |
| 19:11.25 | eXiSt | hi |
| 19:11.26 | comsa | cp path file then path file |
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| 19:12.00 | cahoot | bernouli: stopwatch - A virtual stopwatch and timer? |
| 19:12.42 | eXiSt | i have a debian sarge gateway. it masq. all my network. and all my clients can go outside via it. i can connect to gateway outside.but gateway cant go internet itself. i checked if it is a dns problem but it isnt. |
| 19:12.46 | eXiSt | what can it be? |
| 19:12.49 | RvGaTe | are there any mmorpg for linux out there? |
| 19:12.50 | eXiSt | please help me |
| 19:12.58 | PepperBob | \quit |
| 19:13.45 | bernouli | cahoot, can it play sound? |
| 19:14.19 | bernouli | RvGaTe, there are alot, web based |
| 19:14.24 | cahoot | bernouli: judging from your other input it looks more like want something like 'at' |
| 19:14.41 | RvGaTe | bernouli, nah, no webbased... i need graphical walkable envirements.. :P |
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| 19:14.55 | bernouli | cahoot, 'at' ? |
| 19:15.02 | cahoot | atd |
| 19:15.21 | eXiSt | please help me |
| 19:15.22 | bernouli | atd is a programm? |
| 19:15.28 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.31 | Ronin | patience eXiSt |
| 19:16.35 | bernouli | cahoot, it would be cool, if there is gui programm out there based on that |
| 19:16.51 | stew | eXiSt: does your OUTPUT chain allow the gateway to make connections? |
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| 19:21.22 | cahoot | bernouli: ktimer if you're into kde |
| 19:21.47 | eXiSt | stew this is my iptables rules http://pastebin.ca/85204 |
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| 19:22.42 | bernouli | cahoot, i am in gentoo |
| 19:22.45 | stew | eXiSt: ask #iptables |
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| 19:22.58 | sgraham | hello |
| 19:23.02 | wols | eXiSt: or use package ipmasq if you want |
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| 19:24.43 | stoned | RvGaTe, hey man, long time no see, whats up |
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| 19:25.17 | RvGaTe | stoned, nothing much |
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| 19:27.07 | icebit | hi all |
| 19:28.18 | eXiSt | nobody help me at iptables :( |
| 19:28.26 | stew | eXiSt: did you try asking #iptables? |
| 19:28.33 | eXiSt | yep |
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| 19:32.42 | madclicker | can i use a subnet in /etc/hosts.deny? |
| 19:32.55 | CyberMad | what is the latest version (stable) of debian? |
| 19:33.20 | stew | CyberMad: 3.1r2 |
| 19:33.20 | madclicker | 3.1 |
| 19:33.22 | CyberMad | thank you |
| 19:33.22 | stew | CyberMad: a.k.a. sarge |
| 19:36.05 | sgraham | i got an issue, i have a machine, upgraded to testing and it can no longer find the core pointer, x-org config problem of some sort..i cant remember how to fix this..its just a logitech usb scoll mouse |
| 19:36.19 | abrotman | which device did you use? |
| 19:36.27 | stew | sgraham: modprobe mousedev ; add mousedev to /etc/modules |
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| 19:37.39 | sgraham | hmm k well the thing just locked up werid...ooo there it goes..ok ill modprobe it in a sec, why would it not add that module though stew? |
| 19:37.42 | whaq | any iscsi users? is there any bootcd or preconfigured iso to test it? |
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| 19:39.18 | FarrisG | Anyone know of a decent, stable, active web-based asset tracking project? |
| 19:39.33 | DevilChaos | what do you guys think of asus laptops with debian? |
| 19:39.58 | whaq | I believe SAP fits the bill... they've an asset tracking module. |
| 19:40.35 | whaq | DevilChaos, I believe the laptop would feel honored. |
| 19:40.58 | DevilChaos | whaq: would debian go on easily? |
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| 19:41.38 | FarrisG | whaq: No SAP, pelase |
| 19:41.47 | whaq | it's somewhat of a prude.. maybe with the right compliments and some sweets. |
| 19:42.03 | DevilChaos | lol |
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| 19:47.09 | eXiSt | stew $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT i tried this |
| 19:47.14 | eXiSt | but still it cant |
| 19:47.16 | eXiSt | :( |
| 19:47.27 | abrotman | exist: ask #iptables |
| 19:47.35 | sgraham | ok stew device is /dev/input/device |
| 19:47.39 | eXiSt | i already ask iptables |
| 19:47.41 | abrotman | exist: and wait |
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| 19:47.45 | sgraham | protocl is ImPS/2 |
| 19:47.48 | abrotman | some people have to eat |
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| 19:48.09 | Jonso | Hi |
| 19:48.21 | Jonso | What is needed to make a credit card purchase besides the number itself? |
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| 19:48.41 | mnguyen | I have a quick question... how can I add one file onto another? echo file1 > file2 simply over-writes the file2 |
| 19:48.49 | cusco | Jonso: why should we know? |
| 19:48.58 | stew | sgraham: did you mean /dev/input/mice? |
| 19:49.00 | peppet | mnguyen: >> |
| 19:49.09 | cusco | Jonso: do you wish to buy something? why don't you check what they ask you? |
| 19:49.24 | peppet | mnguyen: and cat, not echo |
| 19:49.33 | Jonso | cusco, Because an unscrupulous man has my credit card number and my name. |
| 19:49.39 | Jonso | Is he able to make purchases to my card now? |
| 19:50.07 | sgraham | ya stew sorry |
| 19:50.09 | sgraham | mice |
| 19:50.18 | CyberMad | do i need to download 4 GB x 2 ?? i just need use debian for apache web server, mysql server and ftp server. Where to get the minimum size for it? |
| 19:50.27 | abrotman | !d-i CyberMad |
| 19:50.27 | dpkg | CyberMad, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:50.28 | cusco | Jonso: also need your address, the back security number |
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| 19:50.42 | stew | sgraham: what is the exact error you are getting? |
| 19:51.09 | Jonso | cusco, Always need the address as part of the verification process? |
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| 19:51.19 | Jonso | cusco, I know for a fact that the security number is not always required. |
| 19:51.23 | PepperBob | hello there! |
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| 19:51.34 | cusco | as far as I have shopped on the internet, yes |
| 19:51.38 | PepperBob | i can't find my php5 module... does anyone know where it's hidden usually? |
| 19:52.03 | cusco | Jonso: then looks like you know enough... why are you asking us? |
| 19:52.40 | PeapTLS | Hi, I had debian w/ dual boot before I reinstalled xp. Now the NTLDR took over. I tried using bootpart correctly, but when I select Deian Linux form the list, it says that it "cannot load form harddisk". Does anyone hav eany suggestions? |
| 19:52.41 | PepperBob | i found it! just forget my question... |
| 19:53.07 | ineiros | Jonso: Have you considered calling your credit card company? They should know. |
| 19:53.30 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: why don't you just use grub again? |
| 19:53.44 | wols | Jonso: expiration date. but no matter what, now that he has it report it immediate ly or you might be liable for anything he buys |
| 19:53.45 | xored | do you now, how to let dovecot run a specific command, when a user connects ( fetchmail), so i can check mails on "request" |
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| 19:54.25 | PeapTLS | pepperbob, great! how would I do this? I ONLY have access to xp right now. |
| 19:54.56 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: you could take a boot cd, boot it, chroot and grub-install.... that's what i would do... |
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| 19:55.10 | ^m0se5 | is anything broken with kde in testing right now? my text is only visible up to the first space in every program including content. |
| 19:55.13 | wols | or if you have a floppy drive make a grub install floppy |
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| 19:55.28 | Phroziac | what can i do to make my debian box able to print to a konika minolta pagepro 1350? |
| 19:55.36 | sgraham | stew cannot open device /dev/input/mice |
| 19:55.38 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: anyways i don't know any details.. so you may do what you like in the end... :) |
| 19:55.47 | stew | sgraham: is the "mousedev" module loaded? |
| 19:55.54 | sgraham | nu suck file or directory |
| 19:56.02 | stew | sgraham: "modprobe mousedev" |
| 19:56.24 | wols | Phroziac: looked at linuxprinting.org yet if it's supported? |
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| 19:56.33 | Phroziac | wols: no. i've never tried this before. |
| 19:56.34 | PeapTLS | Does anyone know how to fix dual boot issues with xp? |
| 19:56.41 | sgraham | nada |
| 19:56.42 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: btw i wasn't even aware that there is something like... ntldr... :) |
| 19:56.50 | sgraham | bummer..it was loaded earlyer |
| 19:57.01 | PeapTLS | pepperbob, sorry, I mean the NT boot loader |
| 19:57.04 | sgraham | is there a package for that? |
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| 19:57.18 | wols | PeapTLS: you already got 2 common solutions. you tried a third by using boot.ini to boot which failed for you |
| 19:57.44 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: that's no problem... i didn't know that there is kind of "boot loader" from MS... that freaked me out a little ;) |
| 19:57.45 | Phroziac | wols: bleh, it doesn't. |
| 19:57.47 | Phroziac | that sucks. |
| 19:57.56 | wols | Phroziac: is it a postscript printer? |
| 19:58.11 | Phroziac | wols: hell no. it's a winprinter. |
| 19:58.14 | wols | or any other common printer language, like PCL? |
| 19:58.30 | Phroziac | It's also a network printer, on a windows xp computer |
| 19:58.30 | wols | Phroziac: then you're totally outta luck. no way. maybe wine but that's it |
| 19:58.48 | wols | linux does not and cannot support GDI |
| 19:58.49 | Jonso | wols, Report it and then what? |
| 19:58.55 | Jonso | wols, How will I use my card myself? |
| 19:58.59 | Phroziac | what's GDI? |
| 19:58.59 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: honestly: it would be the easiest using a boot cd... |
| 19:58.59 | wols | Jonso: get a new card |
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| 19:59.13 | Jonso | wols, I don't have an address right now. |
| 19:59.21 | PepperBob | PeapTLS: besides you do not have neither a boot cd, nor internet connection... |
| 19:59.25 | Jonso | wols, Where would it be sent to? |
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| 19:59.31 | wols | GDI is the windows graphics "protocol" it'S what the printer speaks. they are not winprinter but GDI printers. at least that's what they were called whent hey came out |
| 19:59.42 | PeapTLS | pepperbob, unfortunately I don't have the cd. but I was told that it was possible to fix through windows |
| 19:59.44 | PeapTLS | and bootpart |
| 19:59.49 | wols | Jonso: you report it and from then on your card and number are worthless. you get a new one |
| 19:59.58 | PeapTLS | but I don't know why its not letting me get in that partition |
| 20:00.08 | wols | PeapTLS: why bootpart? is this Vista you're running there? |
| 20:00.20 | Jonso | wols, I can't get a new one. |
| 20:00.23 | Jonso | I have no address for it to be sent to. |
| 20:00.23 | wols | PeapTLS: under XP it's usually fixed by editing boot.ini |
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| 20:00.45 | PeapTLS | boot.ini reads c: |
| 20:01.06 | wols | it's a file. you can add stuff to it |
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| 20:01.14 | PeapTLS | c:\debian.lnx="debian linux" |
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| 20:01.36 | PeapTLS | hi wols, yes yes I tried several combinations |
| 20:01.43 | PeapTLS | no success |
| 20:02.13 | wols | PeapTLS: forget it sorry. with boot.ini you'd need a linux bootloaded at the first sector of your linux partition. SO all you can do is get a linux live cd like DSL (damnsmalllinux) ormake a grub installer floppy |
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| 20:02.28 | PeapTLS | I did bootpart 4 c:\debian.lnx Debian Linux |
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| 20:02.50 | PeapTLS | hey now, that sounds feasible |
| 20:02.58 | PeapTLS | grub installer floppy, where can I get that? |
| 20:03.06 | b00 | hey, what package has dhcp client service ? |
| 20:03.12 | wols | download grub, it has instructions to make one |
| 20:03.19 | b00 | for getting ip , etc on start up ? |
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| 20:04.21 | b_jonas | hi. I'm building a vanilla 2.6 kernel. what's the easiest way to install the kernel headers? |
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| 20:04.47 | b00 | apt-get install kernel headers ? |
| 20:04.51 | m0se5 | is the a problem with KDE in debian testing right now? I can't see any text past the first space of the text in any program including content. |
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| 20:04.58 | wols | kernel-package b_jonas |
| 20:05.12 | heh_v_water | b_jonas, apt-cache search kernel-headers |
| 20:05.14 | wols | b00: dhclient should already be installed on your system |
| 20:05.38 | m0se5 | but only while using KDE... while using gnome everything works fine. |
| 20:05.44 | b00 | wols, yea, but i dont seem to have it runing on start up |
| 20:05.54 | wols | b_jonas: "make_kpkg binary-arch" and kernel image and kernel header debs are made |
| 20:05.56 | PeapTLS | wols, do you suggest grub2 or grub legacy? |
| 20:06.02 | wols | b00: man interfaces then |
| 20:06.11 | wols | PeapTLS: legacy. your debian runs it |
| 20:06.33 | b00 | wols, inet dhcp ? |
| 20:06.40 | b_jonas | but, shouldn't I install the headers of the kernel I'm building which is 2.6.17 and so is newer than the pre-built kernel header packages from debian |
| 20:06.41 | wols | yes |
| 20:06.45 | heh_v_water | does vanilla = all modules installed/activated? |
| 20:06.53 | m0se5 | anyone see this? |
| 20:07.02 | wols | b00: yes you should which is why you should use kernel-package as I typed above |
| 20:07.10 | heh_v_water | m0se5, yes |
| 20:07.17 | m0se5 | thanks heh_v_water |
| 20:07.19 | wols | heh_v_water: vanilla = source from kernel.org unmodified |
| 20:07.26 | heh_v_water | ahhh |
| 20:07.33 | b_jonas | heh_v_water: yes, that's it |
| 20:07.50 | heh_v_water | b_jonas probably want to disregard my suggestion |
| 20:07.56 | b00 | wols, kernel-package is not for me :) |
| 20:08.06 | wols | b00: and why not? |
| 20:08.20 | b00 | err, why would I need kernel package for dhcp ? |
| 20:08.26 | b_jonas | so, which one of these advices above will help me install the headers from the kernel I've built? |
| 20:08.29 | wols | oops. too many b nicks :) |
| 20:08.40 | b00 | hehehehe |
| 20:08.40 | wols | 22:05 < wols> b_jonas: "make_kpkg binary-arch" and kernel image and kernel header debs are made |
| 20:09.01 | m0se5 | Is there a problem with KDE in debian testing right now? I can't see any text past the first space of the text in any program including content...but only while using KDE... while using gnome everything works fine. |
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| 20:09.17 | wols | m0se5: have you checked bugs.debian.org? |
| 20:09.18 | b00 | thanks for man interfaces |
| 20:09.36 | b_jonas | uh. what's that? I don't have any make_kpkg program |
| 20:09.40 | PeapTLS | wols, this only tells me how to download it FROM linux, rather than making a floppy |
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| 20:09.45 | m0se5 | wols, checking now.. thanks |
| 20:10.08 | lunitik | b_jonas: make_kpkg is what kernel-package provides... |
| 20:10.14 | b_jonas | oh |
| 20:10.26 | lunitik | b_jonas: its the Debian Way (tm) for compiling kernels ... results in a .deb |
| 20:10.45 | blame | do intel video controllers need additional drivers ? |
| 20:10.59 | b_jonas | do I need the debian way... |
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| 20:11.19 | lunitik | b_jonas: simularly... dh_make (from dh-make) is the debian way for compiling source from upstream (similarly resulting in a .deb) |
| 20:11.44 | b_jonas | ok, installing kernel-package now |
| 20:12.11 | lunitik | b_jonas: the Debian Way (tm) is what you should do, yes... because then you can manage self compiled kernels with dpkg/apt |
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| 20:12.53 | m0se5 | wols, nope.. not there. |
| 20:13.00 | b_jonas | but, I don't want to, um, make packages from self-buildt kernel packages. I just want to compile them and install. do I have to make these packages and all? |
| 20:13.21 | Misogynist | Does anyone know how I can use the SSH client to run a remote program from a daemon? It seems to be failing when it's launched without a TTY |
| 20:13.40 | lunitik | b_jonas: you don't have to... but its not recommended to use non .debs on your system... |
| 20:13.42 | evilgeek | hm. how does one get dhclient to stop overwriting /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:13.43 | xored | which is the normal backports mirror ? |
| 20:14.21 | wols | PeapTLS: then you need to google, sorry. dunno where to find it. there are some bootdisks at bootdisk.com but none for grub |
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| 20:14.42 | lunitik | b_jonas: it'll result in the same thing though... takes away a bunch of steps... and adds one 'dpkg -i kernel-i-just-made.deb' |
| 20:15.07 | b_jonas | but, if I'm compiling my own kernel anyway, why would it be better if I make a deb from it? |
| 20:15.20 | b_jonas | and I especially want to install the kernel myself |
| 20:15.21 | lunitik | b_jonas: easier to manage it... |
| 20:15.28 | b_jonas | I don't want debian to touch grub |
| 20:15.59 | azeem | that's pretty easy to achieve I think |
| 20:16.06 | b_jonas | because then I'd have to learn how to configure the config file that generates the grub config file or whatever |
| 20:16.06 | lunitik | b_jonas: meh... do it your way... suite yourself :/ |
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| 20:16.22 | wols | evilgeek: man dhclient.conf. the "prepend domain-name-servers" option can do what you want mostly |
| 20:16.26 | lunitik | b_jonas: people create tools to make life easier... feel free to make yours harder though |
| 20:16.34 | pdani_ | where can i find debian backports for sarge? |
| 20:17.06 | b_jonas | yes, well, I used to compile lots of things from source even if there was a package |
| 20:17.08 | wols | b_jonas: but don't ask how to install headers then. at least not in a easy way |
| 20:17.13 | lunitik | b_jonas: make_kpkg handles that... you can also pick how you'd like to configure the kernel via its command... (see man make_kpkg) |
| 20:17.16 | b_jonas | with debian, I'm not doing that as much |
| 20:17.25 | b_jonas | but I'd still want to do it my way |
| 20:17.35 | b_jonas | ok, you're right, I shouldn't ask about it here then |
| 20:17.38 | alexbodn | hello, i can't access my private packages repository via ftp. could you help? |
| 20:17.50 | wols | b_jonas: you shouldn't do it at all under debian. if you want to, you should run a distro without packagemanagement. |
| 20:17.56 | lunitik | b_jonas: you still can... just build .debs instead of random source files everywhere... results in a cleaner system |
| 20:18.03 | xored | deb http://mirror.buildd.net/backports.org/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free ... if i enter this to to my source lise, the says, my gpg key misses. how can i fix this ? |
| 20:18.20 | lunitik | wols: apt-cache show dh-make + New Maintainer Guide |
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| 20:18.56 | b_jonas | maybe I'll read "http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-kernel.en.html" |
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| 20:19.40 | m0se5 | Is there a problem with KDE in debian testing right now? I can't see any text past the first space of the text in any program including content...but only while using KDE... while using gnome everything works fine. |
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| 20:20.34 | Maulkin | xored: What's teh error message? |
| 20:20.35 | lunitik | m0se5: check bts ... and file a bug if you see nothing... |
| 20:20.43 | b_jonas | wols: look, there are some things I can't install from deb because there's no deb yet. I don't see how it would be easier to compile the source myself and make a deb from it and install that, then to just compile and install it from source. |
| 20:20.52 | m0se5 | lunitik, bts? |
| 20:20.58 | b_jonas | this, of course, doesn't go to the kernel |
| 20:21.13 | rhys | b_jonas, checkinstall will do that |
| 20:21.13 | b_jonas | I should probably use these tools provided for kernel building |
| 20:21.24 | rhys | and it is much easier, simply because then it can be managed with apt |
| 20:21.29 | wols | b_jonas: the "easier" part comes when you want to remove that software again (especially libs) or when you want to upgrade it or when debian finally packages it, etc |
| 20:21.29 | xored | Maulkin: GPG key not found, could not verify sources. iam just searching for Dovecot 1.0rc2 but cannot find them there |
| 20:21.33 | rhys | *managed with dpkg |
| 20:21.35 | b_jonas | what is checkinstall? |
| 20:21.40 | lunitik | b_jonas: use dh_make (apt-cache show dh-make) to build the .deb yourself |
| 20:21.56 | Maulkin | xored: What's the Key id? :) |
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| 20:22.00 | lunitik | !tell m0se5 about bts |
| 20:22.39 | rhys | b_jonas, when you compile from source, instead of typing "make install" |
| 20:22.44 | b_jonas | wols: I have disk space, I rarely want to remove software. those I think I might want to remove I install to a separate prefix, and a well-behaved source will make that easy |
| 20:22.57 | rhys | b_jonas it takes the compiled pieces, and then makes a deb out of them |
| 20:23.00 | xored | Maulkin: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dovecot.html thats what i found, but i cannot get apt getting this one :/ |
| 20:23.10 | m0se5 | thanks lunitik |
| 20:23.25 | rhys | b_jonas, also makes RPM and TGZ for slack. |
| 20:23.29 | b_jonas | I mean, I rarely had the urge to uninstall a program I've installed when it was difficult to remove it |
| 20:23.48 | xored | Maulkin: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 20:24.22 | Maulkin | xored: See: |
| 20:24.29 | Maulkin | !apt-key EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 20:24.29 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EA8E8B2116BA136C ; gpg --export EA8E8B2116BA136C | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 20:24.35 | rhys | b_jonas, checkinstall usually works, and the deb is nice. so then you can install yoru compiled code like any other package |
| 20:24.36 | Maulkin | xored: That |
| 20:24.37 | wols | xored: those are all in debian unstable |
| 20:24.47 | b_jonas | and, you know, I've had some problems with the worse packaging systems of suse and gentoo. debian is probably much better, so I have no reason |
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| 20:25.13 | xored | wols: iam using stable right now, but accoring to the developers of dovecot, 99 is crap, so i should update |
| 20:25.14 | wols | lunitik: cause making debs _is_ a hassle compared to make;make install |
| 20:25.21 | xored | to 1.0rc2 |
| 20:25.33 | wols | !simple sid backport |
| 20:25.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 20:25.40 | wols | or hope you find it at backports.org |
| 20:25.42 | b_jonas | "you can install your code like any other package" -- I don't see why I'd want that when I install programs on my system. |
| 20:26.01 | xored | Maulkin: apt-key EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 20:26.07 | wols | b_jonas: then really debian or any deb or rpm based distro is not for you :) |
| 20:26.10 | Maulkin | xored: no... |
| 20:26.13 | alexbodn | hello, i can't access my private packages repository via ftp. could anybody help? |
| 20:26.15 | Maulkin | xored: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EA8E8B2116BA136C ; gpg --export EA8E8B2116BA136C | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 20:26.27 | rhys | b_jonas ...if you dont see the advantage of making a package instead of just putting whatever wherever..then eh |
| 20:26.27 | Maulkin | alexbodn: What's the error? |
| 20:26.28 | rhys | do what you wil |
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| 20:26.32 | evilgeek | b_jonas: if you're a nerd who's all wet about the idea of making a deb for everything before installing it, then it might make sense. |
| 20:26.34 | rhys | aye wols |
| 20:26.45 | lunitik | b_jonas: try Gentoo... it seems perfect for you :/ |
| 20:26.45 | evilgeek | b_jonas: but yeah, i don't see why you wouldn't just install your random package into /usr/local. |
| 20:26.47 | xored | Maulkin: thank you |
| 20:26.47 | wols | alexbodn: more detail would be nice. can you log in via normal ftp or what is the exact problem? if apt can't find them it usually give error messages. what are they? |
| 20:27.05 | Maulkin | evilgeek: b_jonas: That's enough please. |
| 20:27.12 | b_jonas | wols: oh yes it is. I do install most things from package. I couldn't install everything from source without a distro. but at some points, I just want finer control. |
| 20:27.55 | b_jonas | I want to install from source what I want to tweak, and install from package most programs |
| 20:27.57 | Misogynist | checkinstall is for you folks. |
| 20:28.07 | rhys | b_jonas ... all check install does is basicly put an entry for dpkg so you can remove it easiliy |
| 20:28.08 | streuner | alexbodn: /msg dpkg own repo |
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| 20:28.44 | rhys | when the package installs, its just like finishing with "make install", only then dpkg is aware of it, and can remove it easily at will and upgrade it at will if you compile another |
| 20:29.01 | b_jonas | rhys: that might be useful but how can I know I won't have to suck with problems with it at all individual package |
| 20:29.10 | Maulkin | (plus some $stuff) |
| 20:29.35 | rhys | b_jonas, type that again? i dont get what you mean |
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| 20:30.41 | b_jonas | rhys: I mean, will checkinstall work all the time, or will I lose more time with trying to figure out how to make it work for badly-behaved source packages than what I'll gain from the extra service it will do for me |
| 20:31.07 | b_jonas | I don't see why I'd need it. even if you say it's easy, do I have to use every program people find easy to use? |
| 20:31.47 | rhys | b_jonas, be my guest. code the whole damned OS if you wish. |
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| 20:32.02 | rhys | its just a help. you type checkinstall, give it a description and a name |
| 20:32.11 | rhys | and then dpkg -i yorpackage |
| 20:32.12 | rhys | voila |
| 20:32.47 | rhys | check their webpage. otheriwse you can type up your lists manually, and find each and ever file your compiled code installed, and remove it manually |
| 20:32.48 | rhys | have at it |
| 20:34.50 | b_jonas | again, I don't want to remove stuff I install, I just don't run it, and I install many things to a separate directory (sometimes not as root but as a user to my homedir), and install things to /usr/local only when I know I want them |
| 20:35.01 | b_jonas | I don't need an uninstall list |
| 20:35.10 | b_jonas | it doesn't offer me enough |
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| 20:37.23 | b_jonas | and I've had disappointment with some other packaging systems, which all seemed like a good idea first |
| 20:38.20 | Dunedan | Does anybody if there are actual freenx packages for debian everywhere? |
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| 20:40.15 | xored | what is the flag for the unstable packages in the sources.list ? |
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| 20:41.02 | stew | xored: why do you want unstable? |
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| 20:42.24 | xored | E: Build-Depends dependency for dovecot cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements |
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| 20:42.37 | mnguyen | I'm setting up a server at work and I need help... I have multiple user accounts in the same group... and I want to enable an automatic chmod for all files uploaded by them (like a 664 or something) so that everybody in the group can modify the files |
| 20:42.43 | mnguyen | does anybody know how to do automatic chmods as a file gets uploaded? |
| 20:43.02 | xored | stew: cause the developers of dovecot says, 0.99 is crappy / buggy, i should use 1.0rc1 / 2in any case |
| 20:43.16 | wols | xored: have you tried a simjple sid backport yet? |
| 20:43.19 | wols | !simple sid backport |
| 20:43.20 | dpkg | from memory, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 20:43.25 | azeem | 24 |
| 20:43.28 | b_jonas | iuploaded in what way? is it an ftp server or what server? |
| 20:43.32 | azeem | blah |
| 20:43.44 | stew | xored: you absolutely should not install unstable packages onto stable, use a backport, dovecot just got a new upload to bpo yesterday, /msg dpkg bpo |
| 20:44.17 | xored | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.31 | xored | stew: how to get that package then ? |
| 20:44.39 | stew | xored: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 20:44.42 | Jonso | Is Rabinovitz a Jewish name? |
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| 20:44.57 | mnguyen | b_jonas: yah via ftp server or sftp |
| 20:45.03 | caue | i'm using debian sarge, how i can see the videos of youtube.com? |
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| 20:45.11 | proc | hello |
| 20:45.27 | sclebo05 | hello |
| 20:45.29 | proc | are there problems with modutils on sid? because I can't load any modules (even not the ones I built months ago) |
| 20:45.39 | proc | it claims because of a wrong module format |
| 20:45.47 | proc | invalid module format even |
| 20:46.00 | sclebo05 | built for same kernel ? |
| 20:46.04 | proc | yeah |
| 20:46.11 | proc | it's 2.6.16.16 and so are the modules |
| 20:46.15 | stew | proc: that almost always means your modules were compiled with an incompatibly different version of gcc than the kerel |
| 20:46.15 | sclebo05 | what does your modprobe line look like ? |
| 20:46.32 | proc | StereoSkit: ah, gcc really could be the problem |
| 20:46.46 | xored | stew: did that, but when i try to apt-get install dovecot, he trys just to install the not need pop3 versino, but not upgrading somehow |
| 20:46.55 | proc | thanks, stew |
| 20:47.01 | proc | looks like I have to recompile everything |
| 20:47.06 | stew | proc: "cat /proc/version" would tell you which gcc version to use |
| 20:47.11 | StereoSkit | O_O |
| 20:47.14 | wols | xored: apt-cache policy dovecot |
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| 20:47.20 | wols | is backports.org showing in there? |
| 20:47.22 | stew | xored: put the exact command you are using and the exact output, use a pastebin |
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| 20:47.36 | proc | StereoSkit: yeah, it differs. kernel was 4.0.4, module is 4.1.2 |
| 20:47.37 | stew | StereoSkit: you must get tired of that by now :) |
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| 20:47.57 | xored | wols: Candidate: 0.99.14-1sarge0 |
| 20:48.08 | xored | wols: no backportage |
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| 20:48.16 | xored | !paste |
| 20:48.16 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 20:48.38 | wols | xored: best paste your sources.list too. did you do what Maulkin told you? |
| 20:48.55 | Jonso | Are Jews the best doctors and dentists? |
| 20:48.57 | xored | wols: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3117 |
| 20:49.04 | xored | wols: yes it worked |
| 20:49.07 | stoned | Jonso, dont' do that here |
| 20:49.19 | Ari1 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesn't seem to work on Sarge ... can anybody help me ? |
| 20:49.25 | stoned | !drxx |
| 20:49.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 20:49.31 | stoned | !xmd5 |
| 20:49.32 | dpkg | i guess x md5sum is If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. Ask me about <xorgmd5> if you are ... |
| 20:50.03 | xored | source.list wols : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3118 |
| 20:50.12 | wols | xored: how about the sources.list and the exact command and output stew requested? |
| 20:50.35 | xored | wols: all there now |
| 20:50.47 | PepperBob | i try to change the document root of apache... it freaks me out that this would not work! |
| 20:50.50 | wols | have you run apt-get update after editing and has it downloaded the list from backports? |
| 20:50.55 | StereoSkit | omg, use 4 letters then tab for nick completion plz |
| 20:50.57 | PepperBob | does anyone know where to change this? |
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| 20:51.52 | xored | policy : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3117 sourclist : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3118 command : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3119# |
| 20:51.58 | xored | -# |
| 20:52.02 | Vasistha | PepperBob: hrm, you know what I do, is just do a bind mount of /var/www to somewhere else :P |
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| 20:52.23 | sclebo05 | DocumentRoot ? |
| 20:52.35 | PepperBob | Vasistha: that's really a good solution... but i'd like to do it via the config files... |
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| 20:52.48 | proc | this one is in the config file |
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| 20:52.50 | sclebo05 | DocumentRoot |
| 20:52.52 | Vasistha | sclebo05: aka /var/www by default |
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| 20:52.57 | sclebo05 | right |
| 20:52.59 | PepperBob | sclebo05: yes DocumentRoot... :/ |
| 20:53.10 | sclebo05 | maybe i am not understanding your plight |
| 20:53.23 | sclebo05 | does your 'apache' user have access to your 'new' dir ? |
| 20:53.23 | wols | PepperBob: maybe tell the error you get? |
| 20:53.42 | xored | wols: policy : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3117 sourclist : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3118 command : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3119 |
| 20:53.46 | PepperBob | no error... it just does not take the new document root folder.. it's still redirecting to the debian default one. |
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| 20:54.41 | xored | PepperBob: do you have Vhosts ? |
| 20:54.44 | wols | xored: follow the instructions at http://www.backports.org/instructions.html about your preferences for apt |
| 20:54.51 | wols | instead of mutt there use dovecot |
| 20:55.05 | PepperBob | xored: yes the default one * |
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| 20:55.16 | PepperBob | AHHH!! i got it.. |
| 20:55.17 | PepperBob | damnit |
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| 20:55.24 | sclebo05 | ha |
| 20:55.29 | PepperBob | that took me about an hour now :/ |
| 20:55.50 | PepperBob | for whatever reason it's defined in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 20:56.01 | PepperBob | first it defines that documentroot |
| 20:56.19 | PepperBob | and after that somewhere in the file it defines a redirect... |
| 20:56.47 | PepperBob | that's too confusing - but anyways it's working now. |
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| 20:59.27 | xored | wols: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3120 this is in my preferences now |
| 20:59.38 | xored | wols: still not working |
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| 21:00.32 | PepperBob | has anyone ever tried to register a debian linux in a windows domain? |
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| 21:01.00 | PepperBob | if so: are there any relevant things or will that work without problems? |
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| 21:01.18 | stoned | PepperBob, I've only used samba in a home networking env. with Workgroups |
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| 21:01.41 | sclebo05 | when you say register, do you mean auth from domain or be a domain controller ? |
| 21:01.51 | stoned | PepperBob, I am quite sure the Samba docs and #samba can give you even better informaiton. What are you looking to do exactly? |
| 21:02.15 | PepperBob | stoned: i mean auth from domain. when debian asks for the domain i want to register the server with a name in that specific domain.. |
| 21:02.24 | PepperBob | stoned: windows is the domains controller.. |
| 21:02.49 | stoned | PepperBob, hmm, you want to run the debian box as the backup domain controller? |
| 21:02.59 | sclebo05 | no, just join domain i think |
| 21:03.13 | PepperBob | stoned: basically it's just a database server that should be a member of this windows domain |
| 21:03.15 | PepperBob | that's all. |
| 21:03.26 | stoned | hmm, I am not quite sure on this. Consult #samba also |
| 21:04.03 | stoned | it shouldn't matter which liux distribution it is, debian or whatever, samba is samba |
| 21:04.11 | PepperBob | stoned: i'm sure samba will work for filesharing. but i want to have a hostname for example which can be accessed in the network |
| 21:04.17 | stoned | ahhh |
| 21:04.22 | stoned | that one, I have no clue about, sorry |
| 21:04.24 | sclebo05 | nmbd handles that |
| 21:04.34 | PepperBob | nmbd? |
| 21:04.41 | PepperBob | i'll have a look. |
| 21:04.49 | sclebo05 | part of samba |
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| 21:05.24 | sclebo05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.42 | sclebo05 | then you can do things against like smbclient -L mybox and it should work for ya |
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| 21:05.47 | sclebo05 | and share files |
| 21:05.51 | wols_ | xored: look if backports shows in a filename in /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 21:05.55 | sclebo05 | always watch firewall |
| 21:05.59 | PepperBob | sclebo05: yes that sound like what i wanna do. |
| 21:06.15 | PepperBob | sclebo05: this will handle the domain name thing too? |
| 21:06.22 | sclebo05 | try just setting domain directive, and refine your functionality from there |
| 21:06.26 | PepperBob | sclebo05: sorry host name |
| 21:06.31 | stoned | oh btw, smbclient doesn't come with samba, samba does not depend on it, you have to install it manually |
| 21:06.41 | PepperBob | stoned: thanks! |
| 21:06.41 | sclebo05 | very tru, thx stoned |
| 21:06.43 | wols_ | xored: if it does, grep it for dovecot. you can get the URLs that way if you patch it together |
| 21:06.53 | stoned | sure |
| 21:07.05 | sclebo05 | and if you want to MOUNT samba shares, apt-get install smbfs |
| 21:07.10 | wols_ | then you could download and install it with dpkg -i |
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| 21:08.27 | PepperBob | sclebo05: thanks for the info. |
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| 21:08.46 | sclebo05 | np |
| 21:09.16 | PepperBob | uh... another thing: how do i set a service to come up at boot time ? rc-update add ... thing |
| 21:09.41 | bloc76 | would it be better to install mysql5 from backports or by pinning it from testing? (i'm on stable) |
| 21:09.45 | sclebo05 | IF /etc/init.d/samba is executable AND /etc/rc2.d/SXXsamba is linked to it |
| 21:09.47 | MatBoy | does someone know a problem that KDE gives 2 hours more on the clock than on the commandline ? |
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| 21:10.17 | sclebo05 | MatBoy: wrong timezone in KDE ? |
| 21:10.19 | PepperBob | sclebo05: i mean where do i set this up? |
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| 21:10.40 | PepperBob | sclebo05: i.g. in gentoo it: rc-update add <service> default | boot | .. |
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| 21:11.05 | MatBoy | scarface, does not seem the problem... I have it after a distupgrade on etch |
| 21:11.06 | sclebo05 | IF /etc/init.d/samba is executable AND /etc/rc2.d/SXXsamba is linked to it . I always do by hand in debian. if you install samba, i believe it starts on startup by default as a service |
| 21:11.12 | merlincorey | can someone point me to a doc or factoid or manpage or anything at all really related to changing the number of lines and columns on a text-only box? |
| 21:11.26 | wols_ | sclebo05: it asks if daemon or inetd |
| 21:11.33 | PepperBob | sclebo05: ah okay! i understood |
| 21:11.41 | sclebo05 | there ya go then, during install select the option daemon |
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| 21:11.50 | PepperBob | sclebo05: yes it did... |
| 21:11.54 | stoned | I chose inetd |
| 21:12.03 | wols_ | PepperBob: for later there is always update-rc.d btw |
| 21:12.11 | PepperBob | sclebo05: and samba will run the nmbd |
| 21:12.14 | MatBoy | uhm.. sclebo05... that one was for you ! |
| 21:12.16 | stoned | man that burgur hit the spot |
| 21:12.19 | stoned | yumm |
| 21:12.29 | sclebo05 | yep |
| 21:12.57 | PepperBob | wols_: ok. :p |
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| 21:15.40 | sgraham | ok stew sorry had a meeting..so i need to load the mousedev |
| 21:15.52 | labuser | I'm on the most recent debian stable... I can't figure out how to disable the "New login" button on the login prompt when the screen is locked. Unfortunately, google didn't help either. Oh and also, this is with xscreensaver |
| 21:16.23 | stew | sgraham: it appears so, yes |
| 21:17.02 | MatBoy | sclebo05, the strange thing is that the time is OK when I want to edit it... only in the taskbar it's wrong |
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| 21:17.25 | ru | ping |
| 21:17.35 | Vasistha | labuser: might actually be a better question for #kde or #gnome :P |
| 21:18.11 | sclebo05 | is that applet configurable from another location / |
| 21:18.22 | MatBoy | solved... UTC :( |
| 21:18.26 | sclebo05 | and #KDE would work better than here - i only know fluxbox ;) |
| 21:18.33 | PepperBob | sclebo05: nmbd won't resolve hostnames to request from a linux box? |
| 21:18.45 | labuser | oh... sorry |
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| 21:19.17 | dn4 | does anyone know how I could download everything under this link |
| 21:19.18 | dn4 | http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/daily_mpg/ |
| 21:19.19 | stoned | MatBoy, tzconfig && apt-get install ntpdate |
| 21:19.26 | sclebo05 | ; wins support = no |
| 21:19.32 | sclebo05 | should be a yes ;) |
| 21:19.44 | stoned | MatBoy, ahh. Dual boot eh? |
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| 21:20.29 | sclebo05 | PepperBob: #samba can help more than #debian . or a forum |
| 21:20.48 | PepperBob | sclebo05: okay. |
| 21:20.48 | Vasistha | labuser: no need to apologize, good luck with your problem! If it is kde, then you actually might have more luck in #debian-kde because the #kde folks tend to scoff at kde 3.3 :P |
| 21:21.03 | magnus | I am having troubles starting X with the nvidia driver, but it works fine with the nv driver. I am using xorg 7.0, kernel 2.6.17, and I am compiling with --x-module-path... ANy ideas anyone? |
| 21:21.04 | sclebo05 | PepperBob: but try that wins support line |
| 21:21.05 | stoned | Vasistha, true |
| 21:21.21 | sclebo05 | haha, KDE elitists |
| 21:21.40 | Vasistha | magnus: /msg dpkg nvidia /msg dpkg nvida one-liner |
| 21:21.47 | magnus | thanks |
| 21:21.52 | labuser | Vasistha: Is there a similar channel for gnome? I tried #debian-gnome but no one's there |
| 21:22.09 | stoned | labuser, irc.gnome.org |
| 21:22.12 | Vasistha | labuser: no idea, I also just did a /list #debian-gnome and saw that it does not exist |
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| 21:22.26 | stoned | labuser, maybe it has moved to irc.debian.org |
| 21:22.45 | stoned | if it even exists. |
| 21:22.49 | coward | in gnome |
| 21:22.52 | coward | what is the default keys |
| 21:22.55 | coward | for switching desktops? |
| 21:22.57 | Vasistha | labuser: still, that kinda thing might not have changed in a few versions, so they might very well be able to help you in #gnome ... there's no harm in asking, the worst you'll get is scorned for using an old version :-) |
| 21:22.59 | userter | Hi! I have a hardware raid5, and i want to install debian onto it, but i don' t see any suitable device. What should be its name? |
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| 21:23.27 | novata_peleona | hi.... |
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| 21:23.52 | Vasistha | userter: hrm, might it be /dev/md0 or something? |
| 21:23.59 | sclebo05 | userter: try linux26 at cdrom prompt |
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| 21:24.09 | Vasistha | novata_peleona: welcome! Feel free to just ask a question if you've got one |
| 21:24.16 | sclebo05 | md0 = software raid usually. on dell servers i get sda, which is actually a hw raid5 |
| 21:24.48 | Vasistha | sclebo05: thanks for the tip (I've never done any raid) |
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| 21:25.14 | jd|laptop | how do I blacklist a module with udev (prevent it from loading)? |
| 21:25.16 | novata_peleona | my pc is a 3000 processor with 1G ram. It usually blocks running only amule. wanna say: windows and mouse with no answer, all goes slow....as window$$. I was said it could be nvidia drivers. Any help? |
| 21:25.35 | sclebo05 | Vasistha: np. A true hardware raid will show as 1 HD (the cool stuff happens behind the scenes). When you are done with install, get smartmontools so you can monitor drive status |
| 21:25.48 | userter | Vasistha: If i load raid5.ko, then i see 512 device under /dev/md ... , but none of them looks like suitable. |
| 21:26.02 | stoned | novata_peleona, what desktop are you running? kde/gnome might be the culprits, as I doubt it could the nvidida module |
| 21:26.10 | war95 | sclebo05: such as Areca or 3ware |
| 21:26.13 | Vasistha | userter: did you see sclebo05's answer? check out /dev/sda |
| 21:26.17 | novata_peleona | stoned, kde3.5 |
| 21:26.18 | war95 | sclebo05: but why buy those ? SW raid rocks |
| 21:26.24 | stoned | novata_peleona, also, see if any processes have taken up 100% cpu, try top or htop |
| 21:26.28 | userter | sclebo05: This kernel, what was booted is 2.6.8 .. . |
| 21:26.38 | stoned | novata_peleona, kde 3.5.3? or just 3.5 |
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| 21:26.47 | sclebo05 | there are tradeoffs between HW and SW |
| 21:26.51 | novata_peleona | stoned, i checked tthat. No one- |
| 21:26.56 | sclebo05 | i have both running at work here |
| 21:27.07 | sclebo05 | if a server has HW raid, i use it. if not, i use SW |
| 21:27.12 | stoned | 3.5.3 improves on bunch of bugs that were causing some slowdowns. I also use kde 3.5.3 on a 2.4ghz and 1gb ram |
| 21:27.12 | userter | Vasistha: no, cuz of no highlighting, but now i saw. I try. |
| 21:27.22 | novata_peleona | stoned,ii kdebase 3.5.3-2 |
| 21:27.47 | userter | Vasistha, sclebo05: Unfortunately there is no /dev/sda* device.. . |
| 21:28.11 | sclebo05 | figure out if there REALLY is raid5 controller. you may need to load a special module |
| 21:28.14 | stoned | novata_peleona, hmm. I don't know, are you sure its not just a percieved slowness? |
| 21:28.53 | stoned | novata_peleona, you can try running the nv driver and test wether it is the nvidia module or not |
| 21:28.59 | novata_peleona | stoned, it gets blocked. mouse and window with no answuer. alt F1 for console with no anwer |
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| 21:29.20 | novata_peleona | stoned, this could be. How can i do it? |
| 21:29.25 | stoned | !drxx |
| 21:29.25 | dpkg | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 21:29.35 | mnguyen | Okay last question... I am currently on a server that uses SSH2 RSA public keys/private keys. I want to create a very limited user account that doesn't require the keys... how do i do that? |
| 21:29.52 | stoned | novata_peleona, see above or /msg dpkg xmd5 if you changed the X's conf file yoruself |
| 21:30.05 | sclebo05 | in your etc/ssh/sshd_config you can turn keys only on and off |
| 21:30.08 | stoned | novata_peleona, and just pick the nv driver instead of nvidia |
| 21:30.22 | stoned | novata_peleona, how did you aquire the nvidia module? Did you build it with module assistant? |
| 21:30.39 | mnguyen | sclebo05: so I can't create accounts that won't require keys? |
| 21:30.42 | mnguyen | =( |
| 21:30.57 | novata_peleona | stoned, ata disk, and network was needed for netinstall |
| 21:31.04 | sclebo05 | mnguyen: i recommend always using PermitRootLogin 'no' and set your AllowedUsers |
| 21:31.13 | userter | sclebo05: How do You mean "REALLY" raid5 controller? How can i check it? Is it not enough, that i could make a raid5 array in bios? :- ). (sorry for the stupid questions, i don' t understand these things too well). |
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| 21:31.26 | Guerin | !onboard |
| 21:31.28 | novata_peleona | i only could run instalation loading nvidia drives |
| 21:31.28 | dpkg | All onboard sound, video, raid, network and modem cards suck great big donkey balls, and there's nothing you can do about it. unless your time is worth nothing, give up and buy a real card. This goes triple for raid. see tardware |
| 21:31.34 | Guerin | userter: ^^^ |
| 21:31.52 | sclebo05 | userter: is it a server (dell,IBM,etc) or a desktop with a RAID5 option in bios ? |
| 21:31.58 | mnguyen | sclebo05: it's a company server... they asked me to administer it... but they don't want me to turn off keys... can i still set allowed users... that won't use keys? |
| 21:32.02 | wols_ | Guerin: not all. if you buy a proper workstation board or server, you get real raid |
| 21:32.18 | sclebo05 | you can have keys + user/pass |
| 21:32.20 | stoned | Guerin, hey man, long time no see |
| 21:32.27 | stoned | whats going on |
| 21:32.28 | labuser | Vasistha: no answers... I guess I better just "apt-get source xscreensaver" and start editing. thanks for helping:) |
| 21:32.44 | userter | sclebo05: I bet the second option, so a desktop with a RAID5 option in BIOS (ASUS M2N- E, if it helps .. .). |
| 21:32.45 | Vasistha | labuser: that seems a little extreme, but good luck! |
| 21:32.55 | mnguyen | sclebo05: so I can have uses who won't use private keys... and can only enter a username/pssword to authenticate themselves? |
| 21:33.07 | sclebo05 | yes |
| 21:33.23 | sclebo05 | look thru sshd_config, debian has all the pieces there. create a test account and give it a try |
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| 21:33.35 | sclebo05 | delete test account when done ;) |
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| 21:33.53 | sclebo05 | userter: SATA ? |
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| 21:34.34 | userter | sclebo05: yes, the three harddisks are SATA. |
| 21:34.55 | wols_ | userter: tell us the chip name of the raid controller |
| 21:35.07 | magnus | Yeah now my nvidia worked! THanks for the one-liner tip! :) |
| 21:35.10 | sclebo05 | userter: on a desktop at home w/SATA, i do NOT boot with linux26 - the 2.4 kernel worked better on my SIL chipset |
| 21:35.15 | sclebo05 | also asus |
| 21:35.21 | wols_ | or even better if any linux kernel supports that chip |
| 21:35.38 | LinuxHelp | Sorry I'm cursed when it comes to finding documentation, any1 have a link to setting up private/private key ssl for lighttpd? |
| 21:35.40 | wols_ | *look if |
| 21:35.43 | sclebo05 | after i got it running, compiled a recent kernel for that mobo |
| 21:35.49 | userter | sclebo05: nvidia/ nforce, but a moment, and i look for the exact name. |
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| 21:36.44 | sclebo05 | anyone have any SATA/nforce experience for this guy ? |
| 21:37.17 | sclebo05 | i hear crickets.... |
| 21:37.39 | wols_ | userter: you don't have raid |
| 21:37.49 | wols_ | what guerin told you applies |
| 21:38.10 | Vladi | hi, what is a good way to clean out an install of unsued files like files in etc that are part of packages which have been uninstalled etc..? |
| 21:38.18 | wols_ | Vladi: purge |
| 21:38.20 | userter | sclebo05: The name is NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra. |
| 21:38.32 | wols_ | --purge as a dpkg option |
| 21:38.38 | Vladi | wols_: i do use purge but still leaves alot of files behind |
| 21:38.49 | wols_ | then use rm |
| 21:38.55 | userter | wols_: How do You mean it? |
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| 21:39.14 | wols_ | userter: it's no real raid. it's wannabe software raid sold as hardware |
| 21:39.15 | Vladi | wols_: well first i need to compile a list of potential files that do not belong to installed packages |
| 21:39.29 | sclebo05 | userter: i have no experience with that. its possible that the sarge install disks dont support out of box. check google for debian install on your board. i suspect you have to get it booted, and then do SW raid |
| 21:39.44 | wols_ | sclebo05: more than likely |
| 21:40.06 | mnguyen | sclebo05: the server doesn't have an allowed users list... if i create a new list... will it lock all the previous users out? Or will users with authorized keys still be allowd to login even if they aren't in the AllowedUses list? |
| 21:40.19 | novata_peleona | where to flood? pastebin is dead! |
| 21:40.26 | wols_ | !tell userter about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 21:40.28 | wols_ | !paster |
| 21:40.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 21:40.38 | sclebo05 | mnguyen: it would. you would have to maintain that list, but very effective. not on list,not getting in. if you dont need it, dont use it |
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| 21:40.42 | bloc76 | has anyone gotten mysql5 installed from backports? I'm getting umet dependencies. i'm new to deb and backports so it's probably my fault. |
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| 21:41.06 | labuser | Just incase it helps someone, I found out how to fix it... just set "newLoginCommand" to an empty string in your xscreensaverrc, (/* Display the button only if the "newLoginCommand" pref is non-null. */) |
| 21:41.11 | wols_ | bloc76: what does it complain about? version numbers areimportant |
| 21:41.19 | userter | wols_: So You mean i have to load raid module, and make a software raid? |
| 21:41.22 | labuser | it's in driver/lock.c |
| 21:41.27 | bloc76 | wols_: libmysqlclient15: Depends: mysql-common (>= 5.0.18-8bpo1) |
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| 21:41.39 | Daedalus_ | Does anyone know when 2.6.16 is coming to testing? A bunch of maintainers moved their 3rd-party modules for 2.6.16 into testing a while ago, obliterating the old versions, but there's no 2.6.16 kernel yet... |
| 21:41.40 | bloc76 | wols_: a few like that. mysql-common sseems to be the prolbem |
| 21:41.47 | wols_ | userter: yes, cause a software raid is what it is. unless you find an explicit driver for it which says otherwise. which I very much doubt |
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| 21:41.57 | mnguyen | sclebo05: okay... well how do i get uses without authorized_keys in? im still confused. |
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| 21:42.18 | wols_ | bloc76: then use apt-cache policy to see if that vresion of -common is available |
| 21:42.21 | florg | hi, does anybody know a tool to show the content of static libraries? |
| 21:42.31 | wils0n_ | florg: nm, ar |
| 21:42.38 | florg | thx |
| 21:42.40 | wils0n_ | static libraries like .o 's ? |
| 21:42.42 | wils0n_ | or like .a ? |
| 21:42.47 | wols_ | Daedalus_: download it from sid then |
| 21:42.50 | florg | .a |
| 21:42.56 | wils0n_ | yea, nm, ar are best |
| 21:42.56 | florg | or both |
| 21:43.11 | userter | wols_: ok, then at first i try to do software raid. In these case, should i delete the raid array from the bios i set? |
| 21:43.11 | wils0n_ | objdump is good for .o's , which you can get from .a's with ar |
| 21:43.14 | ed_ | http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_install_Debian_from_hardrive_without_any_removable_media is story worth a digg in your opinon? |
| 21:43.24 | wols_ | userter: probably |
| 21:43.32 | wols_ | I'd say yes |
| 21:43.48 | florg | wils0n_, ok, thx |
| 21:43.50 | bloc76 | wols_: ok, i see a version in the "version table" that would work. how do I tell it to install that version? |
| 21:43.52 | userter | wols_: ok, then i delete it at first. |
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| 21:44.30 | wols_ | set it's priority in the apt preferences file |
| 21:44.53 | wols_ | www.backports.org/instructions.html |
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| 21:45.29 | bloc76 | wols_: thanks for all the help today :) |
| 21:47.08 | userter | wols_: I deleted it, but i don' t see the harddisks neither unter /dev/scsi nor /dev/sda* . There is no sda* device .. . |
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| 21:53.06 | userter | . |
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| 22:02.43 | userter | . |
| 22:02.49 | meriad | . |
| 22:03.25 | AciD | , |
| 22:04.01 | userter | Well, meriad: I just wanted to get to know what happened with the channel, cuz i didn' t got any msgs (except join/ leave) in the last 5- 6 minutes. |
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| 22:04.31 | meriad | userter- shhhh |
| 22:04.35 | meriad | userter- it's nap time. |
| 22:06.04 | userter | Meriad: What is nap time? |
| 22:06.55 | meriad | its the time we all rest |
| 22:07.33 | amphi | timezones be damned ;) |
| 22:07.34 | jelly-home | userter: everyone on the channel rests at exactly 00:00 CET (or CEST in summer). Be vewy quiet. |
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| 22:19.24 | McCauley | hello |
| 22:19.43 | McCauley | i idownlaoded isos purporting to be debian installation disks |
| 22:19.54 | McCauley | but when i booted up i was treated to hours of lesbian pornography |
| 22:20.00 | McCauley | is debian lesbian slang |
| 22:20.13 | dondelelcaro | McCauley: uh... no, but that really has nothing to do with us. |
| 22:20.15 | heh_v_water | lmao |
| 22:20.35 | dondelelcaro | McCauley: if you want to download debian, visit debian.org/CD; otherwise, kindly go elsewhere. |
| 22:20.57 | skane | you would have preferred guys? |
| 22:21.07 | streuner | heh |
| 22:23.18 | heh_v_water | but IIRC, not with my pc |
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| 22:26.09 | jaws | heyy |
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| 22:28.26 | McCauley | people still use debian? |
| 22:28.37 | etrask | No. |
| 22:28.40 | McCauley | debian always reminded me of "little debbie" a fat girls name |
| 22:28.49 | McCauley | thats what made me not want to use it |
| 22:29.49 | Vasistha | McCauley: well, there are 601 nicks in this channel, so I have a sneaking suspicion that some people "still" use debian |
| 22:30.32 | CHodapp | well, 587 of those nicks are mine |
| 22:30.37 | etrask | wasn't debian used by NASA on something...? |
| 22:30.49 | CHodapp | then there's ChanServ and the debhelper bot |
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| 22:32.36 | nekostar | i recently [yesterday] got a server in germany |
| 22:32.42 | nekostar | i, however cannot read german |
| 22:33.00 | eastwood | google translator gogogo |
| 22:33.04 | nekostar | i tried reconfiguring locales with dpkg-reconfigure locales and selected en_US |
| 22:33.15 | etrask | so... I want to install debian on this computer [which is currently running windows off it's 80gb internal drive]... |
| 22:33.21 | nekostar | but that doesnt seem to be affecting its language choices.. mans for instance |
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| 22:33.25 | pzn | Hi! I'm using debian linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7. I need to change a kernel option and recompile it, all other things are ok. I want to keep debian default config (except for one option) and debian patches. which is the simplest way of doing it? any hint? |
| 22:33.25 | etrask | and i want to install debian to the 100gb internal, without wiping out windows |
| 22:33.30 | nekostar | how can i convert it fully to eng ? |
| 22:33.38 | nekostar | etrask, |
| 22:33.43 | nekostar | do you have space free on a partition ? |
| 22:33.47 | nekostar | thats step one |
| 22:33.53 | etrask | the 100gb drive is entirely empty, afaik |
| 22:33.55 | VolVE | So... anyone know how I can figure out which ttf font file rrd is using for some graphs? :-/ |
| 22:33.57 | nekostar | technically you need two partitions |
| 22:34.10 | nekostar | oh its a seperate drive for linux >? |
| 22:34.14 | etrask | yeah |
| 22:34.16 | nekostar | form the one for the windows install? |
| 22:34.19 | nekostar | great |
| 22:34.20 | etrask | yes |
| 22:34.24 | nekostar | then is it ide? |
| 22:34.29 | eastwood | nekostar, apt-get install localepurge |
| 22:34.30 | etrask | SATA |
| 22:34.34 | nekostar | eastwood, thanx |
| 22:34.37 | nekostar | etrask, ok |
| 22:34.43 | nekostar | i think for sata is sda sdb etc |
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| 22:34.53 | eastwood | sda is also for scsi |
| 22:34.54 | nekostar | but when you install.. boot the thing and go to manual partitioning |
| 22:35.03 | nekostar | select the second disk |
| 22:35.10 | nekostar | i recommend making / 4-6 gb |
| 22:35.15 | etrask | okay |
| 22:35.25 | etrask | yeah, i partition /home/ and /root/ and / seperately, usually |
| 22:35.28 | nekostar | make swap 2x ram unless you have more than a gig.. then one to one OVER 1 gig ram.. |
| 22:35.32 | etrask | and mount /home/ nosuid |
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| 22:35.38 | eastwood | home swap and / |
| 22:35.38 | nekostar | so 2 gigs ram is 3gig swap |
| 22:35.48 | nekostar | yeah rest as home as eastwood says |
| 22:35.49 | eastwood | swap=2*ram |
| 22:35.53 | nekostar | yes |
| 22:36.00 | eastwood | at the beggining of the disk |
| 22:36.02 | nekostar | eastwood, up to a gig ram i was instructed |
| 22:36.07 | etrask | okay... will GRUB configure to have Windows on the menu, by default? |
| 22:36.08 | eastwood | then root |
| 22:36.10 | eastwood | then home |
| 22:36.16 | nekostar | etrask, it should pick up windows easily |
| 22:36.22 | wols_ | SHS`: if there is one on the disk, yes |
| 22:36.26 | eastwood | yeah, but you need to trick it |
| 22:36.28 | wols_ | etrask: |
| 22:36.36 | nekostar | if not when you boot into debian just check /boot/ and its there |
| 22:36.42 | nekostar | i think /boot/grub/menu.1st |
| 22:36.43 | eastwood | windows doesnt like booting in slave |
| 22:36.44 | nekostar | or so |
| 22:37.01 | etrask | well... windows can get over it :P |
| 22:37.03 | nekostar | eastwood, ive never had a problem with it |
| 22:37.14 | eastwood | i did |
| 22:37.21 | eastwood | you gotta use map |
| 22:37.23 | nekostar | though admittedly its been a while since i ran any windows |
| 22:37.30 | eastwood | map (hd0) (hd1) |
| 22:37.42 | nekostar | eastwood, localpurge... run that i take it eh |
| 22:38.04 | etrask | I don't know much about that stuff... :( |
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| 22:38.14 | etrask | all i want is Linux and Windows to both be on here and not destroy each other |
| 22:38.15 | eastwood | nekostar, just tell it to delete the manuals of the unused locales |
| 22:38.29 | eastwood | etrask, they wont :P |
| 22:38.30 | nekostar | E: Konnte Paket localpurge nicht finden <<-- |
| 22:38.51 | eastwood | localepurge |
| 22:38.58 | nekostar | ah |
| 22:39.00 | nekostar | missed an e |
| 22:39.01 | nekostar | lol |
| 22:39.07 | nekostar | :D |
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| 22:39.27 | eastwood | i told you right |
| 22:39.30 | eastwood | your mistake |
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| 22:39.51 | eastwood | etrask, just install debian on that disk |
| 22:39.55 | eastwood | it will detect windows |
| 22:40.11 | eastwood | if you get an error while booting windows |
| 22:40.14 | etrask | okay... will WinXP Pro SP2 have a problem with slaving? |
| 22:40.27 | Ronin | etrask: never has at work so far |
| 22:40.55 | eastwood | etrask, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml#doc_chap16 |
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| 22:41.03 | pzn | Hi! I'm using debian linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7. I need to change a kernel option and recompile it, all other things are ok. I want to keep debian default config (except for one option) and debian patches. which is the simplest way of doing it? any ideas? |
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| 22:41.44 | etrask | alright, thanks guys |
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| 22:42.39 | etrask | gonna try this now, back later |
| 22:42.42 | etrask | [hopefully] |
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| 22:44.01 | xored | stew: just if you want to know. I got it know running, on every login of an user, the server checks for mails automatically, without a cronjob. |
| 22:44.46 | nekostar | eastwood, i take it i have to restart for the man pages to reset ? |
| 22:44.53 | xored | stew: for me i just conigured, that he checks for new mails ( fetchmail) after every click on a folder in the imap |
| 22:45.13 | eastwood | nekostar, you only have to restart to change kernel |
| 22:45.20 | nekostar | hmm |
| 22:45.50 | eastwood | but i believe it will only work on newer packages |
| 22:46.01 | eastwood | so just do a apt-get install --reinstall pkg |
| 22:46.17 | nekostar | o hoooo |
| 22:46.23 | nekostar | it changed in the middle of something lol |
| 22:46.28 | nekostar | oic |
| 22:46.46 | nekostar | pimp!!! |
| 22:47.40 | nekostar | yeah in mid swing it changed... even for already installed packages |
| 22:47.45 | nekostar | thanx lots eastwood :) |
| 22:48.04 | nekostar | pzn, |
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| 22:48.08 | stew | xored: cool |
| 22:48.12 | nekostar | msg dpkg about compile kernel |
| 22:48.23 | nekostar | and there's a page or 50 on compiling.... |
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| 22:48.48 | nekostar | you wanna grab current config and then manually change one or two things... i dont know fully about it but ive had to do something like that before a while back |
| 22:48.52 | nekostar | its well documented :) |
| 22:49.03 | xored | stew: its not that hard, just a wrapper. if you use a version above 0.99, i can jsut send you my wrapper |
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| 22:49.20 | stew | xored: i'm not interested, but thanks |
| 22:50.57 | pzn | nekostar, ok thanks! |
| 22:51.26 | nekostar | pzn, np sorry im not more helpful :P |
| 22:51.33 | nekostar | debian + compiling hates me !_! |
| 22:51.39 | nekostar | mostly ~_^ |
| 22:51.54 | nekostar | now if only iroffer-lamm was a standard package.. |
| 22:52.13 | eastwood | pzn, check -> cat /usr/src/linux/.config |
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| 22:54.05 | pzn | eastwood, ok. /boot/config-... and /usr/src/linux/.config :-) |
| 22:55.46 | namxam | i am not sure if this is the right channel,… but are there any package maintainers for apache 2.1 or apache 2.2 |
| 22:55.59 | stew | namxam: no such packages exist yet |
| 22:56.09 | nekostar | #apache does exist |
| 22:56.13 | nekostar | :) |
| 22:56.34 | stew | namxam: at least afaik, do you have an apache2.1 or apache2.2 package installed? |
| 22:56.52 | nekostar | aahhh |
| 22:56.52 | namxam | neither, only 2.0 |
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| 22:57.19 | namxam | but i am so lazy and dont wanna compile it myself ;) |
| 22:57.21 | nekostar | the smell of a 100mbit server on teh other side of a terminal across the ocean through my monitor.. which doesnt smell at all... aaahhhh |
| 22:57.21 | nekostar | XD |
| 22:57.40 | nekostar | heh sounds sol from here namxam |
| 22:57.40 | nekostar | :D |
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| 22:58.09 | nekostar | hey the -smp kernels are for dual cores ? or what else? |
| 22:58.17 | nekostar | any multi chip setup? |
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| 22:58.29 | nekostar | o wait does it have to be one of those kinda kernels for 64bit ? |
| 22:59.30 | eastwood | smp are for cpu > 1 |
| 22:59.50 | zinx | SMP's for dual-core as well |
| 23:00.43 | eastwood | dualcore have more than 1 cpu |
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| 23:02.13 | nekostar | eastwood, hm |
| 23:02.26 | nekostar | if i have a system thats single core 64bit do i still get a smp ? |
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| 23:02.40 | eastwood | plain kernel then |
| 23:02.46 | eastwood | 64bits ofc |
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| 23:04.16 | nekostar | trying to figure why thi machine would have that |
| 23:05.50 | nekostar | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz |
| 23:05.50 | nekostar | i dont see zen or anything like that .. |
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| 23:06.24 | stew | nekostar: check if the flags line contains "ht" |
| 23:06.36 | eastwood | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 23:07.07 | nekostar | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid |
| 23:07.12 | nekostar | bingo eh |
| 23:07.14 | eastwood | ht |
| 23:07.19 | eastwood | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ht |
| 23:07.22 | stew | nekostar: ht means hyperthreading which will show up as 2 cpus with a smp kernel |
| 23:07.26 | eastwood | would be easier |
| 23:07.38 | nekostar | oooo |
| 23:07.39 | eastwood | so it's a smp kernel afterall |
| 23:07.48 | nekostar | i c what u mean now stew // eastwood |
| 23:07.57 | nekostar | i get two proc infos for cpu 0 and 1 |
| 23:08.07 | nekostar | and that grepped the flags from both btw eastwood |
| 23:08.09 | nekostar | sweet :D |
| 23:08.16 | nekostar | im not used to such good hardware ~_^ |
| 23:08.24 | nekostar | been making do with amd 1400's and the like |
| 23:08.55 | nekostar | btw another question |
| 23:09.00 | nekostar | if i dl source from somewhere |
| 23:09.11 | abrotman | one line would be good ... |
| 23:10.06 | nekostar | and am making a package thats not directly the same as one in apt.. mebbie one more advanced or so.. sorry abrotman :/ ... is there something i can use to do the final step? that makes the deb package without installing it? ive been doing " checkinstall make install " but of course that auto installs stuff... o: ? [better?] |
| 23:10.28 | abrotman | !equivs |
| 23:10.28 | dpkg | it has been said that equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also "usrlocal" |
| 23:10.43 | eastwood | alien no? |
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| 23:11.11 | nekostar | eastwood, naw make deb from src not from alien .. though thats an interesting thought/// just not converting rpms... |
| 23:11.32 | abrotman | i'm not sure if that's what he's asking |
| 23:11.38 | abrotman | !tell nekostar about mg |
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| 23:12.52 | nekostar | swt thanx abrotman |
| 23:13.32 | nekostar | though neither were quite what i was looking for.. something closer to make debpkg but not install.. mebbie a flag for checkinstall... *busts out teh google* |
| 23:14.45 | etrask | so... what, exactly, are the benefits of 64-bit computing? This Athlon 64 will do it supposedly but... why bother? |
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| 23:15.19 | abrotman | etrask: if you don'tk now .. just use 32bit debian |
| 23:15.52 | etrask | ah... will do, then... [and it'll have to be Ubuntu.. a distant second to Debian but Debian doesn't like my network card :( ] |
| 23:16.13 | nekostar | what card etrask |
| 23:16.14 | rhys | etrask, if you have a program coded specificly for 64 bit, its faster |
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| 23:16.52 | Firestarter | stew: thank you all is well now |
| 23:16.56 | etrask | VIA Networking Velocity Family Giga-bit Ethernet Adapter |
| 23:17.24 | etrask | even the 2.6 kernel, on debian... won't get past the DHCP stage |
| 23:17.40 | abrotman | !tell etrask about sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 23:18.04 | rhys | etrask, do you have a DHCP server on your network? |
| 23:18.17 | etrask | well, the router acts as one, yes |
| 23:18.28 | etrask | [the two other debian boxes on the network do it just fine] |
| 23:18.31 | AprilDL | added an additional hot pluggable scsi drive - how can I make the os recognize it without rebooting? |
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| 23:20.54 | rhys | can anyone tell me what i need to search for to set linux users permissions? |
| 23:21.04 | rhys | like how can i lock down what a user can and cannot do in linux/ |
| 23:21.05 | rhys | ? |
| 23:21.12 | vulture | rhys: what kind of things? |
| 23:21.20 | vulture | file access: chmod |
| 23:21.21 | etrask | i don't know how to restirct a USER, per se |
| 23:21.24 | eastwood | chown |
| 23:21.26 | etrask | yeah, chmod is for files/dirs |
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| 23:21.41 | rhys | eastwood, vulture, not like that. for the entire system |
| 23:21.53 | rhys | what programs they can and cannot run |
| 23:21.58 | rhys | what drives they can run |
| 23:22.02 | rhys | what window managers they can run |
| 23:22.16 | vulture | rhys: programs come under file access, as do "drives" |
| 23:22.17 | eastwood | hmm |
| 23:22.21 | vulture | (and window managers are just programs) |
| 23:22.24 | stew | !permissions |
| 23:22.25 | eastwood | window managers will be a bit hard |
| 23:22.25 | dpkg | i guess permissions is multiple acts of permitting, or http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions |
| 23:22.28 | stew | rhys: ^^^ |
| 23:22.48 | stew | rhys: you control who can execute what with the executable permission |
| 23:22.49 | abrotman | he could .. not install them |
| 23:23.03 | stew | eastwood: why would a window manager be any different? |
| 23:23.04 | rhys | right stew. ty. im just wondering how i can lock down a computer. |
| 23:23.26 | stew | !securing debian |
| 23:23.26 | dpkg | from memory, securing debian is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 23:23.33 | Firestarter | stew: thanks for the help |
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| 23:23.45 | stew | Firestarter: you're welcome. you are on a newer kernel now? |
| 23:23.54 | Firestarter | 2.6.15 |
| 23:24.14 | Firestarter | Is good I hope |
| 23:24.25 | stew | yeah, that's current for a testing system |
| 23:24.31 | stew | rhys: you should try to avoid giving shell access to people you don't trust |
| 23:24.31 | rhys | does linux for a normal user follow the idea of default deny? |
| 23:24.32 | Firestarter | KNOPPIX cd worked out great |
| 23:24.54 | rhys | stew, less that i dont trust them, its that i dont want them fucking it up. |
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| 23:25.07 | rhys | stew, also, what about internet kiosks and such. thats what im thinking about |
| 23:25.10 | abrotman | rhys: why would you want to not let them a window manager? |
| 23:25.17 | abrotman | rhys: it's only their $HOME .. who cares? |
| 23:25.38 | rhys | abrotman, not a window manager, -what- window manager. i want to give them a window manager that i locked out before hand |
| 23:25.41 | rhys | while i can still use my own |
| 23:25.50 | abrotman | so only install that one |
| 23:26.00 | rhys | abrotman, nvm |
| 23:26.03 | abrotman | what? |
| 23:26.25 | abrotman | unless you want to seriously muck up the system .. it's not worth the effort |
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| 23:26.56 | rhys | abrotman, i just wanted to make a user with default deny as basic rule |
| 23:27.36 | vulture | rhys: If you want things for yourself & no other users, just install them in user-space. |
| 23:28.18 | rhys | what is userspace? dpkg wont answer me. |
| 23:28.22 | stew | rhys: run the users in a virtual machine with only software you want them to have |
| 23:28.27 | stew | rhys: or in a chroot |
| 23:28.34 | Firestarter | The 2.6.15 kernel seems much faster |
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| 23:29.04 | Arafangion | Firestarter: It is more responsive, sure. |
| 23:29.08 | vulture | rhys: just in your own users area - either just outside Debian's package management entirely (eg: just installing the upstraem package to your user directory) or in a Debian chroot |
| 23:29.25 | stew | Firestarter: nah, your 2.6.8 probably just seemed slow becuase it didn't work at all :) |
| 23:29.33 | Firestarter | heh |
| 23:29.36 | rhys | vulture, stew, thats what i was looking for |
| 23:29.37 | rhys | ty |
| 23:30.32 | nekostar | ah ha!!! abrotman can you use " debuild -us -uc " or something like that to build source thats not downloaded from apt // repositories ? |
| 23:31.33 | abrotman | eh .. it needs a /debian folder afaik |
| 23:32.00 | nekostar | ah darn :P |
| 23:32.17 | abrotman | try stow or checkinstall |
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| 23:33.44 | nekostar | stow ? checkinstall i use .. "checkinstall make install" but the idea is to make the package without installing it.. mebbie i missed something with checkinstall.. ill check out stow as well thanx |
| 23:34.30 | nekostar | for instance i like to download the latest source for pure-ftpd and compile --with-largefile |
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| 23:39.46 | Arafangion | nekostar: Some people setup a chroot in which to install into, for the purposes of making a package. |
| 23:39.46 | Arafangion | nekostar: fakeroot may assist. |
| 23:39.48 | abrotman | nekostar: other ftpds support large files |
| 23:39.49 | nekostar | abrotman, but i can actually work with that one easily :P |
| 23:40.07 | abrotman | proftpd is pretty easy |
| 23:40.09 | nekostar | Arafangion, chroot // fakeroot it eh.. then remove package and dpkg -i ? |
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| 23:40.44 | MajorHotlips | when trying to apt-get update or install something, i just get messages that it can't stat source package list |
| 23:40.44 | abrotman | is your DNS busted? |
| 23:40.46 | abrotman | is the host even there |
| 23:40.46 | abrotman | ? |
| 23:40.47 | MajorHotlips | yeah |
| 23:40.52 | nekostar | hm mebbie if i look at the way java package is made that could help.... *goes a searching again* |
| 23:41.18 | MajorHotlips | it downloads a lot of stuff, and at the end it just can't stat dists/stable/Release |
| 23:41.28 | Arafangion | abrotman: Heya again :) I've been checking out obsd. :) |
| 23:41.33 | MajorHotlips | it's on another computer, and i can't get irc on it, since apt won't work |
| 23:41.37 | abrotman | Arafangion: you have? |
| 23:41.57 | etrask | oww, bsd hurts my brain |
| 23:42.00 | abrotman | MajorHotlips: are you on sarge? |
| 23:42.15 | Arafangion | abrotman: It's very nice - doesn't have Linux's hardware support, though. |
| 23:42.50 | MajorHotlips | abrotman: how do i find out? |
| 23:42.52 | MajorHotlips | :P |
| 23:42.54 | MajorHotlips | kinda newbie on debian |
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| 23:43.12 | MajorHotlips | is there a distversion file somewhere? |
| 23:43.13 | nekostar | hm |
| 23:43.13 | abrotman | cat /etc/apt/sources.list .. pointing at stable or sarge .. or something else ? |
| 23:43.26 | abrotman | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:43.49 | MajorHotlips | testing/unstable |
| 23:43.50 | nekostar | abrotman, looking at the stow page.. # make install prefix=/usr/local/stow it shows.. can i do that with anything im making? |
| 23:43.59 | abrotman | i think so |
| 23:44.04 | nekostar | o wow |
| 23:44.07 | abrotman | MajorHotlips: what is the URL you're using in your sources? |
| 23:44.21 | Arafangion | I gtg, cya |
| 23:44.34 | MajorHotlips | security.debian.org/ etch/updates |
| 23:44.37 | nekostar | l9 Arafangion and thanx |
| 23:44.42 | nekostar | *l8 |
| 23:44.45 | Arafangion | abrotman: One of these days, I'm going to hunt kye and pursue this irc that he should've maintained! ;) |
| 23:44.45 | MajorHotlips | ftp.no.debian.org/debian |
| 23:44.53 | MajorHotlips | and the same for .us |
| 23:44.56 | abrotman | Arafangion: eh? |
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| 23:45.03 | abrotman | MajorHotlips: comment out the .no. one |
| 23:45.06 | abrotman | use a # |
| 23:45.44 | MajorHotlips | ok |
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| 23:45.44 | MajorHotlips | (i'm not a total n00b, using gentoo for 2+ years) |
| 23:45.44 | MajorHotlips | :P |
| 23:45.44 | MajorHotlips | ah |
| 23:45.44 | dvs | MajorHotlips: so you're a newbie! ;-) |
| 23:45.45 | MajorHotlips | ;) |
| 23:45.48 | MajorHotlips | works now |
| 23:45.55 | MajorHotlips | is the norwegian mirror not working, or? |
| 23:45.59 | abrotman | it's possible |
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| 23:47.38 | vick | Hello, Can i make my debian box act as intermediate between all computers(except the router) on a B class network and a router(in the B class network as well) [ where the router does all the routing and such ] ? |
| 23:47.40 | Firestarter | now I just with this laptop could do a higher resolution with linux |
| 23:48.03 | abrotman | vick: a bridge? |
| 23:48.21 | MajorHotlips | vick: you're going into the sniffing-biz? |
| 23:48.22 | MajorHotlips | :P |
| 23:48.28 | vick | No |
| 23:48.34 | MajorHotlips | Firestarter: you configured xorg? |
| 23:48.37 | vick | The router has a week firewall |
| 23:48.41 | vick | weak* |
| 23:48.50 | vick | plus i want to do some intrusion detection stuff. |
| 23:48.53 | dondelelcaro | vick: yes, if you want |
| 23:48.57 | abrotman | won't the students love you :) |
| 23:49.01 | MajorHotlips | vick: just put in two nics, and you're good to go |
| 23:49.07 | vick | dondelelcaro: Using what tool ? |
| 23:49.09 | vick | two nics ? |
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| 23:49.14 | abrotman | two network cards |
| 23:49.14 | vick | Can't i do it on one nic |
| 23:49.21 | vick | All in eth0. |
| 23:49.22 | dondelelcaro | vick: using the kernel, ip, and that's it. |
| 23:49.32 | MajorHotlips | vick: yes, but then you have to set up virtual cards |
| 23:49.37 | MajorHotlips | it's trickier |
| 23:49.38 | dondelelcaro | vick: you want to network cards, because you'll stick it physically in the path. |
| 23:49.41 | dondelelcaro | s/to/two/ |
| 23:50.01 | vick | Why would it help to make virtual cards ? |
| 23:50.06 | vick | To like bridge between them ? |
| 23:50.14 | MajorHotlips | okay, now bzip2 returned an error code |
| 23:50.20 | MajorHotlips | vick: yes, something like that |
| 23:50.30 | vick | MajorHotlips: would brctl do that ? |
| 23:50.45 | vick | MajorHotlips: or is there other tool you would recommend ? |
| 23:51.29 | MajorHotlips | vick: do what? |
| 23:51.33 | MajorHotlips | set up virtual nics? |
| 23:51.38 | heh_v_water | why would you bridge anything, make a virtual interface, enable kernel routing, set up routing protocols if needed using quagga or could set up static routes even |
| 23:51.40 | MajorHotlips | just use eth0:0, eth0:1, etc. |
| 23:52.00 | dvs | you mrean eth0 and eth0:0 |
| 23:52.01 | abrotman | heh_v_water: maybe doesn't want to route? |
| 23:52.06 | MajorHotlips | i can't apt-get update, bzip2 fails |
| 23:52.07 | stew | bridging between two virtual interfaces on the same card wouldn't do anythihg |
| 23:52.22 | MajorHotlips | dvs, i haven't actually done it |
| 23:52.25 | abrotman | vick: get two network cards .. and use a bridge |
| 23:52.31 | MajorHotlips | stew: on different subnets? |
| 23:52.36 | vick | Can't i do it with one network card ? |
| 23:52.50 | stew | MajorHotlips: that would be routing |
| 23:52.50 | MajorHotlips | vick: i think so, if you you use different subnets |
| 23:52.51 | Arafangion | vick: Not without confusion. |
| 23:53.05 | vick | MajorHotlips: How would you do it ? |
| 23:53.05 | heh_v_water | okay lets think abotu this.. when we bridge two interfaces get one IP, how is that gonna work on two subnets.. |
| 23:53.11 | MajorHotlips | stew: isn't that what we're talking about? |
| 23:53.16 | abrotman | no |
| 23:53.29 | MajorHotlips | but it would work |
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| 23:53.37 | abrotman | but why ... |
| 23:53.41 | MajorHotlips | routing from one subnet to another, while sniffing and firewalling |
| 23:53.48 | abrotman | or .. you could bridge |
| 23:53.50 | vick | lol |
| 23:53.59 | MajorHotlips | abrotman: then you need two nics |
| 23:54.05 | vick | Which way is easier ? [ using one NIC ] |
| 23:54.06 | stew | MajorHotlips: he was talking about brctl, so yes |
| 23:54.10 | MajorHotlips | s/sniffing/ids'ing |
| 23:54.44 | MajorHotlips | stew: if he only has one nic, he has to route |
| 23:55.02 | stew | MajorHotlips: right, that was my point |
| 23:55.08 | Timtow | is there an app to convert .avi files to dvd format? |
| 23:55.10 | MajorHotlips | hehe |
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| 23:55.12 | vick | MajorHotlips: What tool would i use ? |
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| 23:55.19 | MajorHotlips | Timtow: mencode, ffmpeg, etc. |
| 23:55.21 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone recommend a good Xen + Etch howto |
| 23:55.41 | MajorHotlips | vick: [01:51] <heh_v_water> why would you bridge anything, make a virtual interface, enable kernel routing, set up routing protocols if needed using quagga or could set up static routes even |
| 23:55.43 | Timtow | which one is best with good quality? |
| 23:55.46 | abrotman | MajorHotlips: yes .. use two damn nics |
| 23:55.55 | Hoxzer | Guys |
| 23:56.00 | abrotman | there are girls here! |
| 23:56.17 | Hoxzer | abrotman: :/ I dont think so |
| 23:56.28 | Timtow | I would prefer a command line encoder |
| 23:56.37 | sng | abrotman: No matter how pretty you look in your party dress you don't count. |
| 23:56.40 | Hoxzer | abrotman: you have been lied to |
| 23:56.44 | jbrimble | There are no girls on the internet |
| 23:56.45 | PhinnFort | Timtow: both mencoder and ffmpeg are command line |
| 23:56.47 | abrotman | Hoxzer: about what? |
| 23:56.50 | PhinnFort | and both are equally good, afaik |
| 23:56.55 | abrotman | sng: i look better out of it! |
| 23:56.57 | Hoxzer | abrotman: about girls herre |
| 23:57.01 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:57.02 | sng | abrotman: :D |
| 23:57.10 | vick | PhinnFort: Why do i need virtual interface ? |
| 23:57.16 | PhinnFort | [01:33] --> OfficerHotpants has joined this channel (n=chatzill@cpe-24-166-54-135.neo.res.rr.com)., i switched nick, and i made a joke |
| 23:57.17 | abrotman | lala .. TWO NICS |
| 23:57.19 | Doa` | sup |
| 23:57.25 | Doa` | tell me |
| 23:57.35 | *** join/#debian elliptic (i=greg@ALille-251-1-105-113.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:57.35 | *** join/#debian jelly-ho (n=jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 23:57.37 | PhinnFort | vick: so the box is virtually in the middle |
| 23:57.45 | PhinnFort | to be sure no traffic can pass unnoticed |
| 23:57.52 | heh_v_water | if I were doing that I would use two nics myself |
| 23:57.57 | abrotman | use two nics .. use bridging |
| 23:58.04 | vick | PhinnFort: Do you have an article on how to do so ? |
| 23:58.11 | stoned | SunnyD. Refreshign |
| 23:58.12 | PhinnFort | vick: sorry |
| 23:58.14 | heh_v_water | when you do virtual interfaces and start watching things it looks like someone could mess with packets and get around a firewall |
| 23:58.21 | heh_v_water | to me anyhow |
| 23:58.25 | stoned | go on little packet |
| 23:58.25 | PhinnFort | vick: i have no idea how you would do it on debian, either |
| 23:58.27 | stoned | be free |
| 23:58.40 | vick | abrotman |
| 23:58.43 | PhinnFort | heh_v_water: only if they have root |
| 23:58.47 | vick | I dont want to buy another NIC. |
| 23:58.54 | vick | Can't NATing do the trick ? |
| 23:58.55 | abrotman | so steal one from another computer |
| 23:59.02 | PhinnFort | heh |
| 23:59.13 | PhinnFort | vick: if you are in norway, i could probably mail one to you |
| 23:59.24 | PhinnFort | :) |
| 23:59.29 | vick | heh. |
| 23:59.42 | PhinnFort | and some of my white flour |
| 23:59.44 | PhinnFort | ;) |
