| 00:00.08 | PhinnFort | j/k, btw |
| 00:00.18 | jelly-ho | vick: if you don't use two physical interfaces, there's a possibility that someone could just bypass your bridge. |
| 00:00.24 | heh_v_water | right |
| 00:00.43 | vick | jelly-ho: bypass ? |
| 00:00.47 | abrotman | get around |
| 00:00.58 | abrotman | give the bird to and walk on by |
| 00:01.01 | jelly-ho | what he said. |
| 00:01.06 | heh_v_water | vick, if you set it up once, you will see just use tcpdump |
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| 00:01.13 | vick | i still don't understand what do you mean by 'bypass your bridge' |
| 00:01.19 | Firestarter | PhinnFort: Yes I have configured xorg but still don't work right. All I can get is a little better than 640x480 |
| 00:01.35 | vick | heh_v_water: i dont know how to do it, heh. |
| 00:01.39 | PhinnFort | vick: people will be able to evade your ids, and firewall |
| 00:01.57 | PhinnFort | Firestarter: look in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf |
| 00:01.59 | PhinnFort | or something |
| 00:02.01 | vick | oh. |
| 00:02.08 | vick | what about the sniffer ? :P |
| 00:02.11 | vick | heh. |
| 00:02.13 | PhinnFort | heh |
| 00:02.14 | vick | jk |
| 00:02.23 | vick | How is that ? |
| 00:02.28 | PhinnFort | anyone tried driftnet, btw? |
| 00:02.33 | PhinnFort | just sniffs pictures |
| 00:02.33 | abrotman | two nics ... bridge |
| 00:02.34 | ryan` | PhinnFort: yes |
| 00:02.39 | vick | bypass the firewall ? |
| 00:02.41 | heh_v_water | vick, if you watch the packets doing that you will see that the packets actually get destined for the first virtual interface at times, somebody could probably send malformed packets and not pass through your firewall to ge inside |
| 00:02.42 | vick | abrotman: heh. |
| 00:02.43 | jelly-ho | vick: eg. you have a router, your machine and local pc's one the same network. even if you do dhcp and assign internal addresses to the pc's, some one can always run a sniffer and find out a way to get directly to the router. |
| 00:02.44 | PhinnFort | ryan`: does it work as advertised? |
| 00:02.51 | ryan` | PhinnFort, Yes, it does. |
| 00:03.04 | ryan` | PhinnFort, It does not work on monitor mode wireless, though. |
| 00:03.12 | PhinnFort | that's a shame |
| 00:03.13 | abrotman | who are you going to believe ... the person using gentoo .. or the guy running debian?! |
| 00:03.16 | ryan` | I have been tring to fix that. |
| 00:03.19 | abrotman | oh wait .. i guess i should state which is which |
| 00:03.29 | ryan` | PhinnFort, You know C? |
| 00:03.41 | PhinnFort | not very well i'm afray |
| 00:03.42 | PhinnFort | id |
| 00:03.48 | vick | jelly-ho: that's no problem, the would be missing out on the security. |
| 00:03.49 | PhinnFort | still learning |
| 00:03.56 | ryan` | If you like I'd be happy to let you try my patch and muck around with it. |
| 00:04.06 | vick | jelly-ho: I want to provide security for those machines, not the router. |
| 00:04.18 | vick | jelly-ho: Could you help me do it that way ? |
| 00:04.34 | ryan` | it make driftnet able to open monitor mode wireless interfaces, and see packets, but it does not decode images yet. |
| 00:04.41 | Firestarter | PhinnFort: I just got a warning saying that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg couldnt write to config because it was manually edited |
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| 00:04.44 | PhinnFort | ryan`: i can't promise any deep testing, but sure, send it |
| 00:04.49 | heh_v_water | vick, you could probably google for linux routing howto |
| 00:04.56 | ryan` | someone once had posted a modified version, but it was lost to the sands of time |
| 00:05.00 | abrotman | lartc.org and netfilter.org |
| 00:05.02 | PhinnFort | Firestarter: try moving the config out of the folder, and re-run the config |
| 00:05.06 | abrotman | don't need a router .... |
| 00:05.18 | vick | heh_v_water: I already did that, heh. |
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| 00:05.31 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 00:05.32 | dpkg | from memory, x md5sum is If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. Ask me about <xorgmd5> if you ... |
| 00:05.35 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 00:05.39 | abrotman | !xorgmd5 |
| 00:05.40 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case 'md5sum -c /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum' - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've mad |
| 00:05.55 | ryan` | PhinnFort: lemme find the bugger |
| 00:06.00 | PhinnFort | oki |
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| 00:06.24 | ryan` | http://ryanc.org/~ryan/driftnet.wireless.patch |
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| 00:06.40 | ryan` | eep |
| 00:06.44 | jelly-ho | vick: not today I'm afraid, my higher cognitive functions have shut down. It's 2am here. But come back at 9-10GMT ;-) |
| 00:06.48 | ryan` | http://ryanc.org/~ryan/driftnet_wireless.patch |
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| 00:06.58 | PhinnFort | i thought about writing something similar in python, would probably be easier |
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| 00:07.02 | ryan` | vick, what are you trying to do? |
| 00:07.07 | heh_v_water | weeeeeeeeee |
| 00:07.15 | ryan` | PhinnFort: works great on ethernet :) |
| 00:07.24 | PhinnFort | :D |
| 00:07.28 | vick | ryan`: Be an intermediate in communication between router and other computer on the same B class network |
| 00:07.50 | PhinnFort | i have to set it up with a projector on the school i work on |
| 00:07.52 | PhinnFort | :) |
| 00:07.54 | ryan` | build an ethernet tap and plug it in right in front of the router |
| 00:08.09 | ryan` | vick: That's pretty easy. |
| 00:08.12 | PhinnFort | ryan`: wouldn't work for firewalling, would it? |
| 00:08.24 | PhinnFort | if you didn't do it the chinese way |
| 00:08.25 | PhinnFort | :P |
| 00:08.30 | ryan` | vick, but you may need to use nat |
| 00:08.37 | ryan` | what exactly are your needs? |
| 00:08.47 | vick | ryan`: What do you mean ? |
| 00:08.47 | Firestarter | what is the path of md5sum? |
| 00:08.57 | ryan` | vick, why do you want to do that? |
| 00:09.00 | vick | ryan`: Ethernet tap ? |
| 00:09.03 | vick | ryan`: firewalling |
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| 00:09.09 | PhinnFort | ryan`: he needs ids, firewalling |
| 00:09.11 | abrotman | vick: really ... use a bridge |
| 00:09.12 | PhinnFort | :) |
| 00:09.17 | abrotman | bah ... |
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| 00:09.28 | abrotman | Firestarter: probably /usr/bin/ |
| 00:09.31 | ryan` | PhinnFort, and you can't use your border router? |
| 00:09.33 | abrotman | Firestarter: which md5sum |
| 00:09.37 | whafro | is there a package in which I can find the 'seekablepipe' utility? |
| 00:09.42 | PhinnFort | i don't need anything |
| 00:09.42 | ryan` | I did something simalar at work |
| 00:09.44 | abrotman | !tell whafro about search |
| 00:09.47 | Firestarter | xorg |
| 00:10.01 | abrotman | Firestarter: no .. run the command `which md5sum` |
| 00:10.01 | ryan` | put a firewall between the cisco and the netwrok for iptables use |
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| 00:10.38 | vick | ryan`: how did you do it ? |
| 00:10.40 | ryan` | what i did was created a /30 network between the cisco and the linux box using private ip addresses, and added routes to the cisco to see my subnet via the linux box. |
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| 00:10.54 | eastwood | !nvidia |
| 00:10.55 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 00:10.59 | heh_v_water | ryan`, now your talking sense |
| 00:11.21 | eastwood | !xorg7 |
| 00:11.22 | dpkg | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
| 00:11.24 | ryan` | the other way is to set it up as a bridging transparent firewall, but that involves a fair amount of black magic. |
| 00:11.35 | ryan` | but our firewall works great. |
| 00:11.47 | ryan` | vick, is that configuration an option for you? |
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| 00:12.10 | PhinnFort | he only has one nic |
| 00:12.25 | Nexus | So I'm trying to pin a package so that it will pull from testing and not stable. Is this the proper syntax? Pin: release a=testing |
| 00:12.31 | ryan` | vick, can you the another nic? |
| 00:12.42 | vick | nope |
| 00:13.22 | vick | ryan`: Which one requires one nic ? |
| 00:13.53 | PhinnFort | which config file does fluxbox use on debian? |
| 00:14.04 | ryan` | neither, however, the routing thing can be done with two ip addresses on one nic, just make sure you turn off ICMP redirects. |
| 00:14.11 | ryan` | debian supports this... |
| 00:14.39 | ryan` | just add to /etc/network/interfaces with a :lan after the device name |
| 00:15.12 | ryan` | why can't you get an extra NIC? |
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| 00:15.32 | PhinnFort | because he isn't in norway, and i don't send stuff out of norway |
| 00:15.34 | PhinnFort | that's why |
| 00:15.35 | vick | ryan`: well heh |
| 00:15.42 | PhinnFort | :) |
| 00:15.46 | vick | ryan`: have to go to the store and buy one :( |
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| 00:16.04 | ryan` | vick, So? nics are cheap. |
| 00:16.15 | Firestarter | I get "not updating /etc/X11/X file has been customized |
| 00:16.23 | PhinnFort | 10-15$ |
| 00:16.30 | ryan` | though you seem to be in egypt. |
| 00:16.41 | vick | i am. |
| 00:16.43 | ryan` | and they might be overpriced there. |
| 00:16.53 | vick | but the thing isn't worth it, if it can be done with one NIC, why not |
| 00:16.54 | ryan` | how much would it cost you to buy a nic? |
| 00:17.06 | ryan` | vick, it makes firewalling harder |
| 00:17.42 | ryan` | you can't use -i eth0 to see that a packet came in over the wan with just one nic |
| 00:18.16 | ryan` | you have to look at the source mac address, and assorted other crap like that. |
| 00:18.17 | vick | ryan`: Dont worry about the difficulity of firewalling. |
| 00:18.25 | ryan` | *shrug* |
| 00:18.29 | ryan` | well it will work |
| 00:18.43 | vick | it will give me experience with it at least :P |
| 00:18.46 | JoAkKiNeN | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.50 | ryan` | just be sure to tourn off icmp redirects, otherwise you won't get egress filtering |
| 00:19.04 | vick | what does icmp redirect do ? |
| 00:19.16 | Nexus | So I'm trying to pin a package so that it will pull from testing and not stable. Is this the proper syntax? Pin: release a=testing |
| 00:19.16 | PhinnFort | 51.2kb/s isn't bad over a wireless, is it? |
| 00:19.29 | Nexus | And if it has testing dependencies, to I have to manually put them in preferences as well? |
| 00:19.36 | ryan` | vick, it 'help |
| 00:19.38 | ryan` | er |
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| 00:20.35 | ryan` | vick, it informs the client computers they are on a shared media with the next hop and should send directly instead of going through the router. |
| 00:20.51 | ryan` | echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/send_redirects will take care of the problem nicely. |
| 00:21.16 | lucia_ | i cannot running usb sound card..... in 2.4.20-8 redhat based kernel... use alsa-driver 1.0.9 |
| 00:21.18 | ryan` | what this means to you is that the firewall will tell the computers on your network how to bypass it. |
| 00:21.26 | vick | oh |
| 00:21.30 | vick | i see |
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| 00:21.35 | vick | What about the other configuration ? |
| 00:21.39 | ryan` | And some of them will follow those instructions |
| 00:21.40 | rhys | how would i run a command at user startup? |
| 00:21.42 | lucia_ | sucess for alsa.. but failed to oss... |
| 00:21.46 | ryan` | you need two nics to bridge. |
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| 00:21.52 | lucia_ | any idea? =_=; |
| 00:22.26 | rhys | where are user login scripts? |
| 00:22.48 | ryan` | rhys, that depends |
| 00:22.57 | ryan` | what to you mean by 'startup' |
| 00:22.59 | vick | ryan`: What about the other way |
| 00:23.11 | rhys | ryan`, user login from xdm, kdm,gdm, etc |
| 00:23.24 | ryan` | which other way? I thought i mentioned onely 2 ways. |
| 00:23.43 | ryan` | rhys, IIRC is .Xrc |
| 00:23.46 | ryan` | i'm not sure |
| 00:24.00 | ryan` | vick, bridge or firewall |
| 00:24.01 | rhys | ryan`, do you know if thats user specific? |
| 00:24.18 | ryan` | rhys, if it's in thier homedir it is |
| 00:24.26 | ryan` | there should also be a system wide one |
| 00:24.55 | ryan` | .xinitrc, btw, is the file |
| 00:24.58 | rhys | ryan` , i want to chroot them |
| 00:25.16 | rhys | so just make it nonreadable for them |
| 00:25.20 | rhys | ? |
| 00:25.20 | vick | ryan`: firewall |
| 00:25.22 | ryan` | rhys, chrooting them will not work. |
| 00:25.33 | meriad | booya |
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| 00:25.44 | rhys | ryan` ? why not? |
| 00:25.47 | ryan` | rhys, they will not be able to run anything from outside the chroot. |
| 00:26.03 | ed_ | is there a script or series of scripts that are run when shutdown in invoked? |
| 00:26.05 | ryan` | because if they could, then the chroot would be pretty useless. |
| 00:26.07 | rhys | ryan` , i know that |
| 00:26.20 | vulture | ed_: man update-rc.d |
| 00:26.20 | ryan` | ed_: /etc/rc6.s/* |
| 00:26.51 | ed_ | thanks guys :) |
| 00:26.57 | ryan` | rhys, you plan to copy (hardlink?) everything into each users homedir? |
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| 00:30.57 | Firestarter | how would /etc/X11/X be customized if I didn't touch it |
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| 00:33.56 | abrotman | bad luck? |
| 00:34.22 | Hoxzer | Luck is baad |
| 00:35.14 | Firestarter | is there a way to return /etc/X11/X to it's normal state |
| 00:35.35 | PhinnFort | Firestarter: try moving it out of the folder |
| 00:35.44 | PhinnFort | (or delete it, but keep a backup) |
| 00:36.02 | Firestarter | how do I create a new one? |
| 00:36.25 | abrotman | PhinnFort: that won't work |
| 00:36.33 | PhinnFort | it would've worked in gentoo:) |
| 00:37.00 | abrotman | right ... |
| 00:37.21 | abrotman | $ ls -l /etc/X11/X |
| 00:37.21 | abrotman | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-06-03 07:54 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg |
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| 00:40.20 | Firestarter | abrotman would removing xorg and installing again work? |
| 00:40.30 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 00:40.39 | vick | is there netinstall for debian unstable ? |
| 00:40.56 | stoned | yes |
| 00:41.09 | vick | stoned: Where ? |
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| 00:41.30 | stoned | use the etch netinstaller and select unstable repositories when choosing which mirrors to use, just manually edit it and modify etch to sid |
| 00:41.39 | stoned | just don't use sid if you are new at linux/debian |
| 00:41.57 | vick | etch is testing / |
| 00:41.58 | vick | ? |
| 00:42.01 | stoned | yes |
| 00:42.18 | vick | stoned: You're using sid / etch ? |
| 00:42.22 | stoned | yes |
| 00:42.38 | stoned | but if it breaks, I can usually fix it on my own |
| 00:43.17 | vick | i mean which one are you using sid or etch ? |
| 00:43.17 | ryan` | I use etch for some dev servers |
| 00:43.26 | stoned | I use all 3 |
| 00:43.31 | stoned | stable, testing and sid |
| 00:43.58 | stoned | I think I might even have a woody box laying around somewhere, in the closet |
| 00:44.07 | ryan` | heh |
| 00:44.17 | ryan` | we still have some woody boxes at work |
| 00:45.09 | etrask | hey, so, before I install linux on this 100gb HD... |
| 00:45.28 | etrask | I'd like to have a partition that WinXP and linux can share |
| 00:45.37 | dvs | etrask: make it VFAT |
| 00:45.47 | ryan` | etrask: vfat works fine for that. |
| 00:45.55 | etrask | alright, cool, thanks |
| 00:46.11 | etrask | [also: will windows just 'see' it by default? windows annoys me with it's hardware recognition...] |
| 00:46.25 | ryan` | yeah, windows will find it just fine |
| 00:46.25 | dvs | etrask: make it on a logical partition |
| 00:46.34 | etrask | awesome, thanks |
| 00:46.42 | ryan` | er |
| 00:46.56 | etrask | dvs: okay... but what's the difference? |
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| 00:47.10 | ryan` | windows may choke if it's a primary partition, and its not the first one. |
| 00:47.18 | dvs | etrask: Windows can only see one primary partition at a time |
| 00:47.20 | etrask | ah |
| 00:47.25 | etrask | oh.. really? jeez |
| 00:47.34 | ryan` | only microsoft knows why that is. |
| 00:47.40 | floundering | anybody succeeded in compiling the mag-vid-source package? |
| 00:47.40 | PhinnFort | windows is so lame |
| 00:47.50 | abrotman | dvs: eh .. no |
| 00:47.53 | Bangers | how do I allow a nonroot user su into another nonroot users account |
| 00:47.56 | Bangers | without needing password |
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| 00:48.06 | abrotman | remove the password? |
| 00:48.16 | dvs | abrotman: That's been my experience with Windows (98 at least) |
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| 00:48.26 | abrotman | dvs: that's not true |
| 00:48.35 | abrotman | even DOS could handle more than one primary partition |
| 00:48.38 | etrask | hmm... well windows and linux are on entirely different hard drives |
| 00:48.53 | etrask | so the VFAT partition would inherently have to be on a different primary partition |
| 00:50.00 | dvs | abrotman: when I used to dual boot Windows and OS/2, Windows couldn't see the OS/2 partition (but OS/2 could see the DOS partition) |
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| 00:50.31 | abrotman | and os2 used what filesystem? |
| 00:50.38 | dvs | abrotman: FAT |
| 00:50.44 | dvs | and HPFS |
| 00:50.53 | abrotman | i've used many windows boxes with two primary partitions |
| 00:51.23 | Timtow | will a 586 package work on a 386 machine? |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | no |
| 00:51.37 | abrotman | well .. maybe .. if you're lucky |
| 00:51.40 | abrotman | who has a 386 machine ? |
| 00:51.45 | stoned | I do |
| 00:51.45 | Timtow | then how come when I try to install the 386 package it says to use the 586 one and won't install it? |
| 00:51.46 | abrotman | like .. a real 386? |
| 00:51.54 | stoned | 25mhz, 4mb ram, 80mb hdd |
| 00:51.56 | stoned | yes |
| 00:51.59 | Timtow | I have a PII 350mhz as my server |
| 00:52.00 | etrask | niiiiiice |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | stoned: not you .. him! |
| 00:52.05 | stoned | ohh. lol |
| 00:52.06 | stoned | hehe |
| 00:52.09 | abrotman | Timtow: that's a 686 |
| 00:52.16 | Timtow | oh, wow... |
| 00:52.21 | abrotman | !686 |
| 00:52.22 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel, or if you want to take advantage of hyperthreading support, you should install a -smp kernel. |
| 00:52.41 | killown | abrotman I have a 386 8mb ram |
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| 00:53.10 | abrotman | killown: the point was that he didn't ahve a 386 |
| 00:53.11 | Timtow | I found some 8mb simm modules the other day....covered with dust |
| 00:53.16 | Timtow | :D |
| 00:53.30 | killown | :) |
| 00:53.31 | killown | ok |
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| 00:55.09 | etrask | stoned: you ought to try some POVRay renders on that baby |
| 00:55.15 | etrask | set up SETI@home |
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| 00:56.36 | abrotman | at least he's being vocal about the bugs he fixes .. though maybe it's just bragging :) |
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| 00:58.02 | caue | i need use the latest version of wine, but i use debian sarge.. what i can do? |
| 00:58.06 | stew | abrotman: yeah, he's kicking ass. but if this release goes anything like last it will be tough to compete with vorlon for mvp |
| 00:58.22 | abrotman | bah .. vorlon .. he never fixes bugs! |
| 00:58.34 | stew | hah! |
| 00:58.39 | abrotman | stew: IMO .. he kind of pushed the release |
| 00:58.54 | abrotman | !tell caue about backports |
| 00:59.01 | abrotman | and not in a good way |
| 00:59.30 | abrotman | but that's a personal opinion |
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| 00:59.52 | abrotman | and i doubt my opinion means squat :) |
| 01:00.01 | evilgeek | caue: backports. |
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| 01:00.21 | caue | abrotman: well, is better compille or install a deb package of sid? |
| 01:00.33 | abrotman | caue: use the backport at backports.org |
| 01:00.39 | abrotman | caue: read the instructions there |
| 01:00.50 | stew | abrotman: no, none ours really does |
| 01:01.06 | abrotman | stew: yours might some day :) |
| 01:01.09 | caue | well, i'll try unerstand, my english is very bad |
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| 01:01.21 | abrotman | and i'm sure you're a bit more "in" with the DDs than i am .... |
| 01:01.44 | elik | abrotman, hey |
| 01:01.48 | abrotman | hi |
| 01:02.02 | elik | abrotman, have some additionnal info for my sound stuff |
| 01:02.11 | abrotman | sound stuff |
| 01:02.16 | abrotman | refresh my memory |
| 01:02.38 | elik | hum, basically, either I'm deaf or my sound is not working in linux |
| 01:03.02 | elik | I take second option as I can hear the annoying sound of my pc fan |
| 01:03.12 | abrotman | that's just the buzzing in your brain |
| 01:03.17 | elik | oh |
| 01:03.18 | ryan` | elik, check the mixer settings, i've made that imstake |
| 01:03.22 | elik | that would explain a lot |
| 01:03.29 | elik | ryan`, mixer settings? |
| 01:03.32 | ryan` | yeah |
| 01:03.41 | abrotman | alsamixer |
| 01:03.47 | elik | I did check that |
| 01:03.48 | ryan` | your volume may be turrned all the way down |
| 01:03.54 | elik | no |
| 01:03.57 | ryan` | check that it's not muted |
| 01:04.02 | elik | neither |
| 01:04.17 | dvs | elik: Master and PCM |
| 01:04.35 | elik | everything is in the roof, and no mute box checker |
| 01:04.38 | elik | checked |
| 01:04.59 | evilgeek | elik: what happens when you go cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp? |
| 01:05.04 | elik | nothing |
| 01:05.05 | stew | elik: "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and try cat "/dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" as root |
| 01:05.12 | elik | not even if I'm root |
| 01:05.21 | stew | elik: what does "ls -l /dev/dsp" say? |
| 01:05.34 | evilgeek | can you paste the output of 'lsmod' to rafb.net/paste? |
| 01:05.44 | elik | just a sec |
| 01:05.53 | evilgeek | and are you sure your speakers are plugged into the right, er, hole? |
| 01:06.27 | elik | yes I am, the green one |
| 01:06.32 | elik | stew, crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-07-11 20:58 /dev/dsp |
| 01:06.43 | elik | stew, I get nothing with modprobe |
| 01:06.53 | dvs | elik: that's good |
| 01:07.07 | dvs | elik: now try echo /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
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| 01:07.23 | evilgeek | dvs: we've been through this exercise, and i think you mean 'cat'. |
| 01:07.31 | elik | echo? |
| 01:07.34 | dvs | evilgeek: yes, cat, thanks |
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| 01:07.43 | stew | evilgeek: his thought being the modprobe snd-pcm-oss would make dsp work |
| 01:07.46 | elik | why do we take urandom instead of random? |
| 01:07.50 | dvs | elik: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
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| 01:08.29 | aredhel | elik, random only gives out a few bytes at a time. |
| 01:08.32 | elik | oh, thx stew |
| 01:08.54 | elik | thx aredhel, I guess urandom is a continuous stream |
| 01:09.08 | evilgeek | elik: seriously, can you lsmod and lspci and paste the output to rafb.net/paste? give us the URL, too. |
| 01:09.13 | abrotman | aredhel: that's enough to know |
| 01:09.19 | elik | yeah |
| 01:09.28 | aredhel | elik, right, not as random a random though. |
| 01:09.44 | elik | ok |
| 01:10.00 | stew | urandom doesn't needlessly waste as much entropy as random |
| 01:10.19 | elik | evilgeek, http://rafb.net/paste/results/dHu4Gm83.html |
| 01:10.23 | abrotman | aredhel: does it matter .. it will either squawk or not |
| 01:10.40 | elik | woah, I just asked the difference |
| 01:11.15 | evilgeek | when you did modprobe snd_intel8x0, what messages were output? |
| 01:11.38 | elik | I did not modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:11.58 | elik | I guess alsaconf made it auto modprobed |
| 01:12.19 | evilgeek | can you lspci and paste on rafb? |
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| 01:13.07 | elik | just for info, I have a gateway 7330 GH laptop |
| 01:13.10 | elik | http://rafb.net/paste/results/wiX5ND71.html |
| 01:13.33 | elik | My sound card is a PC2001 (wtf is that) but gateway says it's AC97 compatible |
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| 01:14.04 | stew | elik: what does "lspci -n | grep 0401:" output? |
| 01:14.36 | elik | I find it weird that I'm only given the option to configure the i8x0 card when running alsaconf |
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| 01:14.48 | elik | lspci -n | grep 0401: gives 0000:00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 03) |
| 01:15.40 | stew | elik: then yeh, snd_intel8x0 is the correct module |
| 01:15.49 | evilgeek | what happens if you rmmod and modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:15.50 | evilgeek | ? |
| 01:16.03 | evilgeek | that is, rmmod snd_indel8x0; modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:16.35 | wireddd | if I want to computers to mirror eachother over a network, is there a better way to do it than rsync |
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| 01:16.52 | elik | ERROR: Module snd_indel8x0 does not exist in /proc/modules |
| 01:16.59 | elik | hum, strange |
| 01:17.01 | evilgeek | yeah, i made a typo. |
| 01:17.02 | dvs | snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:17.07 | evilgeek | change 'indel' to 'inte; |
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| 01:17.13 | evilgeek | ugh, you know what i mean. |
| 01:17.24 | obcp | hi |
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| 01:17.46 | elik | yeah |
| 01:17.53 | elik | sry, didnt see typo :P |
| 01:18.18 | elik | evilgeek, can't remove, says it's in use |
| 01:18.39 | evilgeek | perhaps soemthing is accessing /dev/dsp, then. |
| 01:18.47 | elik | evilgeek, but nothing is using /dev/dsp |
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| 01:18.54 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 01:18.54 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
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| 01:19.26 | dvs | elik: lsof /dev/dsp |
| 01:20.39 | sparr | I would like to figure out what piece of software is automagically mounting my SD card when I insert it, and stop it. Or, better yet, make it smart enough to mount non-vfat filesystems. Whatever it is, it is not honoring my fstab. What could it be, and how can I tell which? |
| 01:20.55 | elik | dvs: |
| 01:21.02 | elik | ^ that was output |
| 01:21.37 | elik | basically, nothing |
| 01:21.46 | elik | evilgeek, that might be sound control though |
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| 01:22.26 | dvs | elik: modprobe -r snd_intel8x0; modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:23.05 | elik | dvs, FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use. |
| 01:23.32 | liable | sparr: you have gnome? |
| 01:23.34 | dvs | hmmm... at least the kernel is using it. |
| 01:23.38 | sparr | liable: i have not. |
| 01:23.57 | liable | sparr: usbmount or ivman? |
| 01:24.06 | sparr | liable: not running |
| 01:24.50 | liable | hrm, cant think what else would automount it |
| 01:24.54 | dvs | elik: Are you using GNOME or KDE? |
| 01:25.00 | elik | dvs, I saw something searching internet about someone that fixed the problem by openning kmix and going in switches, removing external ampli |
| 01:25.11 | elik | dvs, I have both, can switch, but now am in gnome |
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| 01:25.23 | elik | dvs, above solution didnt work |
| 01:25.30 | dvs | elik: I'd switch off the GNOME sound system. |
| 01:25.35 | wawa | Hi guys |
| 01:25.59 | elik | dvs, uh, ok, but how would I do that? |
| 01:26.04 | wawa | I need help installing debian on sparc |
| 01:26.21 | wawa | Booting linux from cd, it boots fine but I get kernel panic, ramdisk cant find image at location 0 |
| 01:26.38 | dvs | elik: I don't use GNOME so I couldn't tell you. I'd gotta be somewhere in the preferences |
| 01:26.42 | liable | wawa: theres a dedicated channel for sparc, though i think its a bit slow (but worth a try) |
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| 01:27.00 | liable | !sparc |
| 01:27.01 | dpkg | it has been said that sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 01:27.05 | wawa | I tried, it seems everybody is asleep |
| 01:27.52 | liable | oh well, you might get lucky here :) |
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| 01:29.46 | elik | dvs, just a sec, will reboot on kde |
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| 01:30.01 | elik | dvs, might just be easier for you to try to help me |
| 01:30.04 | elik | brb |
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| 01:33.05 | elik | dvs, back |
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| 01:33.55 | aisixt | hi |
| 01:33.55 | dvs | elik: does cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp work now? |
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| 01:34.23 | Chronx | i need some debian mirrors for apt-get |
| 01:34.33 | Chronx | anyone know of some fast one in the eastern usa ? |
| 01:35.24 | liable | !apt-spy |
| 01:35.24 | dpkg | from memory, apt-spy is a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 01:35.28 | aisixt | my irssi doesn't work correct, in the german debian channel (#debian.de) i can't see the messages from the other users |
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| 01:36.36 | elik | dvs, FUCK! I'm deaf cause sound was too lound, but for sure it works |
| 01:36.45 | dvs | aha! |
| 01:37.01 | dvs | elik: So it's the GNOME sound system that's blocking the sound |
| 01:37.26 | stoned | esd/artsd are pieces of fresh turd nuggets |
| 01:37.32 | stoned | smelly too |
| 01:37.41 | Vasistha | stoned: perhaps not fresh, though |
| 01:37.44 | stoned | dmix is the bees knees |
| 01:37.47 | elik | sound+linux = nightmares for day |
| 01:37.51 | stoned | nope |
| 01:37.52 | stoned | !dmix |
| 01:37.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 01:38.10 | Chronx | how did germany get abreviated to DE ? |
| 01:38.12 | Chronx | lol. |
| 01:38.12 | elik | !beer dvs |
| 01:38.19 | dvs | A what? |
| 01:38.19 | elik | !coffee dvs |
| 01:38.25 | dvs | ha! |
| 01:38.26 | Vasistha | Chronx: uh, Deutchland, the German word for Germany? |
| 01:38.27 | elik | take whichever you want |
| 01:38.37 | Chronx | doucheland |
| 01:38.44 | Chronx | hahah jk i'm sry |
| 01:39.02 | elik | Vasistha, isnt that romanian? |
| 01:39.15 | elik | Vasistha, your name I mean |
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| 01:39.35 | Vasistha | elik: no, Sanskrit, actually. Vasistha was a sage in the Hindu scriptures |
| 01:39.51 | stoned | there is no A sound at the end btw |
| 01:39.53 | stoned | Vasisth |
| 01:39.56 | Vasistha | elik: although perhaps it's a Romanian name as well; I wouldn't know |
| 01:40.00 | stoned | it is in the Vedas |
| 01:40.04 | stoned | I've read them |
| 01:40.13 | sparr | liable: thanks anyways |
| 01:40.19 | elik | dvs, good to hear music |
| 01:40.23 | stoned | why the fuck do people put an a at the end of every hindi/sanskrit word |
| 01:40.24 | Vasistha | I read Vasistha's Yoga, after which I adopted the nick |
| 01:40.25 | stoned | it pisses me off |
| 01:40.35 | dvs | elik: Like the white noise before? ;-) |
| 01:40.38 | stoned | its not rama, its raam, its not Raga music, its Raag music |
| 01:40.49 | elik | dvs, no, harmonious sound |
| 01:40.53 | elik | dvs, like music |
| 01:41.07 | elik | dvs, is there a device that create pink noise? |
| 01:41.23 | dvs | elik: Yuck! That stupid girl? ;-) |
| 01:41.23 | stoned | Vasistha, I am indian, and I am telling you that in my mother tounge of urdu/hindi/sanskrit, there is no A sound at the end of Vasisth |
| 01:41.34 | stoned | ;) |
| 01:42.03 | elik | dvs, no, pink noise does exist, it's a sound where all frequencies have same level so you can equalize a room with frequency analyser |
| 01:42.04 | Vasistha | stoned: alright, man, thanks for the info. |
| 01:42.07 | stoned | sure |
| 01:42.19 | dvs | elik: I'd prefer the brown noise |
| 01:42.22 | stoned | I just didn't want you to be ignorant of the fact |
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| 01:42.27 | stoned | nice nick though, however |
| 01:42.28 | Vasistha | stoned: perhaps you should contact the translators :P |
| 01:43.04 | elik | dvs, anyway, white noise does the job when determining if it works |
| 01:43.26 | stoned | white noise, seen it? dumb movie |
| 01:43.51 | Vasistha | stoned: thanks ... I'll admit I was a bit concerned it might come off as arrogant ... at the same time, using the nick reminds me from time to time to try to emulate that wisdom and not be an a-hole on irc |
| 01:44.11 | elik | dvs, great, now KDE can annoy me with minimizing and maximizing sound |
| 01:44.13 | dvs | stoned: no, that's White Chicks |
| 01:44.25 | stoned | dvs, that was dumb too |
| 01:44.32 | dvs | elik: You can turn off THAT sound system too! |
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| 01:44.44 | elik | dvs, lol, yeah |
| 01:44.53 | elik | dvs, I'll try to get it to work in GNOME now |
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| 01:44.56 | stoned | my wisdom comes from the good book |
| 01:45.03 | stoned | the good book, blessed the herb |
| 01:45.08 | elik | dvs, at least I know it works, I was starting to doubt it |
| 01:45.08 | stoned | In the Genesis I believe it was |
| 01:45.24 | stoned | I've smoked almost a quarter of bible too |
| 01:45.25 | stoned | :D |
| 01:45.29 | elik | the Herb? isnt that your interpretation sotned? |
| 01:45.44 | stoned | now the bible paper sucks |
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| 01:45.48 | stoned | used to be perfect for rolling |
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| 01:46.05 | stoned | im retarded, ignore me |
| 01:46.10 | elik | eh, gotta spend some more money buying the zig zag |
| 01:46.23 | elik | !rape stoned |
| 01:46.36 | elik | damn, dpkg could have this function... |
| 01:46.50 | stoned | elik, you need to stop abusing the bot |
| 01:47.05 | dvs | !say but I like abusing the bot |
| 01:47.05 | dpkg | but I like abusing the bot |
| 01:47.15 | stoned | dvs, i'll abuse you |
| 01:47.21 | stoned | or use you |
| 01:47.24 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:47.28 | stoned | cuz everyone in the world is looking for something |
| 01:47.30 | stoned | da nanana nanana |
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| 01:47.41 | elik | uh, he's stoned.... |
| 01:47.53 | stoned | elik, can you say duh? |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | maybe he should go mourn syd barrett |
| 01:48.00 | stoned | and no, I'm not stoned |
| 01:48.07 | dvs | yes,you are |
| 01:48.08 | elik | yeah, I can: duh |
| 01:48.20 | elik | Syd Barrett was a great man |
| 01:48.22 | stoned | no I'm not, at least not for another couple of weeks |
| 01:48.27 | stoned | fucking piss tests man, I hate em |
| 01:48.30 | stoned | invasion of privacy |
| 01:48.30 | seeds | playing pink floyd high hopes |
| 01:48.37 | elik | hum |
| 01:48.46 | elik | I guess I'll put pink floyd on too |
| 01:48.52 | seeds | cool |
| 01:49.01 | stoned | I guess I'll blame canada |
| 01:49.29 | dvs | !blame canada |
| 01:49.29 | sclebo05 | is this #debian or #hemp ? |
| 01:49.37 | stoned | actually, hemp is non intoxicating |
| 01:49.42 | sclebo05 | lol. |
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| 01:49.47 | sclebo05 | thanks for clarifying |
| 01:49.50 | stoned | sure |
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| 01:50.38 | dvs | Timma! |
| 01:50.43 | elik | ok peeps, let's try to find something stoned dont know |
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| 01:51.09 | Vasistha | heh, how to get alsa working on my laptop :P |
| 01:51.24 | dvs | Ask elik. ;-) |
| 01:51.26 | stoned | lets try to /ignore stoned or stfu |
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| 01:51.52 | stoned | kthx |
| 01:52.10 | elik | Vasistha, it doesnt work |
| 01:52.45 | Vasistha | elik: I have a buggy sound card, the alsa driver doesn't work with it |
| 01:52.49 | elik | stoned, did mean to offend you |
| 01:52.56 | Vasistha | *did* :-) |
| 01:53.05 | stoned | elik, you can't offend me |
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| 01:53.12 | stoned | you're simply annoying |
| 01:53.38 | CHodapp | stoned, everything you stand for is WRONG, and your mother is ugly! |
| 01:53.44 | stoned | damn |
| 01:53.44 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:53.57 | elik | Vasistha, honestly, I'm too new to Debian to help you much |
| 01:53.58 | stoned | CHodapp, man you can at least tell me something I don't already know |
| 01:54.00 | stoned | :/ |
| 01:54.01 | dvs | stoned: you like George Bush! |
| 01:54.12 | stoned | dvs, sure why not :) |
| 01:54.13 | elik | that is low |
| 01:54.17 | CHodapp | ok, dvs, no taking off the gloves and hitting below the belt.... |
| 01:54.33 | stoned | way too much faggotry in here right now |
| 01:54.37 | stoned | fuck it, i'll see ya'll later |
| 01:54.37 | Vasistha | elik: oh, I've been through this with experienced people. It's hopeless, unless I want to modify the driver source code myself, and that |
| 01:54.42 | Vasistha | ...err, that |
| 01:54.46 | Vasistha | damn it. |
| 01:54.54 | Vasistha | that *ain't* happening |
| 01:55.32 | elik | I love you stoned |
| 01:55.42 | caue | i change the sources.list |
| 01:55.44 | caue | for etch |
| 01:55.59 | caue | and aptitude update and after aptitude upgrade but packages are the same |
| 01:56.05 | caue | the version of packages.. why? |
| 01:56.11 | Vasistha | caue: maybe you need to do dist-upgrade |
| 01:56.19 | dvs | caue: you have to do a aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 01:56.38 | caue | now? or i had do before? |
| 01:56.42 | Vasistha | caue: ...you're sure you want to do this? you know what you're getting into? |
| 01:56.52 | caue | yes |
| 01:56.59 | dvs | caue: once you go to etch, you can't downgrade |
| 01:57.28 | caue | oh i know this dvs |
| 01:57.34 | caue | but dist upgrade show me a conflict |
| 01:57.44 | caue | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.46 | caue | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:59.51 | caue | dvs: ? |
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| 02:00.02 | dvs | caue: what? |
| 02:00.21 | caue | dvs: i can't do dist-upgrade cause show a conflict |
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| 02:00.47 | dvs | caue: I use apt-get but you could try aptitude -f dist-upgrade |
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| 02:03.54 | splif | hi everyone, i've just built a custom kernel and its the first that i've done in debian with make-kpkg but whenever i boot into it i get a unable to mount rootfs and i think its because of a missing initrd image, can someone point me in the right direction of a good doc or point out what i'm doing wrong? |
| 02:05.13 | dvs | splif: if you're making a kernel for a specific computer, you don't need an initrd |
| 02:05.36 | dvs | splif: but if you must have one, you must specify the --initrd option for make-kpkg |
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| 02:07.23 | splif | dvs: i'll try that, i just wanted to add high mem support so i can take advantage of my ram but I keep getting this error and can't boot my machine from the custom kernel. any ideas why that would be? thanks by the way. |
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| 02:07.42 | kreg_work | trying to setup a tftp server in debian. if i test tftp client on localhost, it's fine. if i test it remotely on neiboring machine, it times out. any ideas? |
| 02:07.45 | Anders | hi, text randomly disappears in gnome (sarge): http://anders1.org/what.png |
| 02:07.57 | Anders | I think it only happens when I don't have anti aliasing enabled |
| 02:08.13 | dvs | splif: you either have to have an initrd file or compile your IDE controller and boot filesystem directly into the kernel (i.e. not as modules) |
| 02:08.22 | Anders | it does not only happen in firefox... it happens in all gtk apps |
| 02:08.34 | stew | splif: why not just use a debian kenrel? do you have more than 4gb of memory? |
| 02:08.47 | heh_v_water | Anders, I experienced this the other day on a new etch install |
| 02:08.58 | heh_v_water | i still havent gotten back to fix it yet |
| 02:09.03 | Anders | heh_v_water, did you also disable your anti aliasing? |
| 02:09.17 | Anders | and do you use MS fonts? |
| 02:09.21 | heh_v_water | Anders, not sure really off hand |
| 02:09.32 | splif | stew: I have 8gb of ram in this web server otherwise I would |
| 02:09.35 | heh_v_water | i installed the ms fonts after the first time I opened firefox |
| 02:09.41 | stew | splif: ahh, ok |
| 02:09.46 | stew | splif: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 02:09.53 | heh_v_water | it made no difference |
| 02:09.57 | Anders | ok |
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| 02:10.20 | heh_v_water | btw i am using kde |
| 02:10.49 | heh_v_water | I can't remember the package that let's you change gtk fonts in control center |
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| 02:13.28 | minerale | I have a friend just pinging this one machine, how can I turn icmp traffic off ? |
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| 02:14.38 | abrotman | minerale: ask #iptables |
| 02:15.00 | minerale | hmm, I don't have iptables enabled |
| 02:16.09 | abrotman | then unplug the network cable |
| 02:17.00 | abrotman | dvs: hr derby sucked |
| 02:17.11 | dvs | abrotman: I never caught it |
| 02:17.31 | abrotman | you'd need hand-eye coordination |
| 02:17.37 | dvs | ahhhh |
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| 02:24.22 | liable | !moo |
| 02:24.22 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:24.23 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 02:24.25 | abrotman | i win! |
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| 02:24.41 | rhys | what the hell is that? |
| 02:24.53 | abrotman | it's the aussie mating call |
| 02:24.55 | liable | i was first on my box :P |
| 02:24.57 | dvs | rhys: there's only one way to find out: type "apt-get moo" |
| 02:25.06 | dvs | liable: and mine |
| 02:25.07 | rhys | abrotman, my girl is australian. she doesnt make that sound |
| 02:25.08 | rhys | i know |
| 02:25.09 | rhys | :D |
| 02:25.21 | abrotman | rhys: does she bark like a dog |
| 02:25.31 | liable | !slap abrotman |
| 02:25.33 | rhys | .. abrotman, are you calling my girlfriend a cow? |
| 02:25.36 | liable | not nice!! |
| 02:25.44 | rhys | yea. whore. |
| 02:25.45 | rhys | :\ |
| 02:27.00 | liable | rhys: abrotman has a thing about aussies, i think he must have been turned down by an aussie girl once :) |
| 02:27.11 | abrotman | tbh .. i don't think i've ever met one |
| 02:27.15 | liable | or twice! :P |
| 02:27.19 | abrotman | english yes .. aussie no |
| 02:27.24 | rhys | heh. mine spent 2kAUD to see me. :D |
| 02:27.29 | liable | abrotman: you should come over! |
| 02:27.39 | abrotman | liable: you wouldn't know what to do with me |
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| 02:27.45 | liable | true.. |
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| 02:28.25 | abrotman | do i have to drink fosters? |
| 02:28.32 | liable | i can think of some things that involve alcohol, string and glue! |
| 02:28.48 | liable | abrotman: we only export it, we dont actually drink it.. |
| 02:28.57 | abrotman | i wish i could say the same about bud/coors/miller |
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| 02:29.20 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:29.30 | Guerin | doo you guys have swappa crate in $country? |
| 02:29.31 | liable | do you guys even make full strength beer over there? |
| 02:29.52 | abrotman | liable: we make beer that would lay you out :) |
| 02:29.54 | liable | wtf is swappa crate? |
| 02:29.55 | Guerin | liable: they can't call it beer, they have to call it 'malt liquor' if it's more than 3.5% or something |
| 02:30.05 | liable | Guerin: really? |
| 02:30.07 | abrotman | no |
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| 02:30.25 | liable | heh, i am so fucking gullible sometimes.. |
| 02:30.43 | Guerin | liable: 1. buy wooden crate with 12 750ml beers in 2. drink beers 3. take crate and empties back to shop for $5-$10 off your next crate |
| 02:30.46 | Guerin | liable: no, really |
| 02:31.08 | liable | Guerin: ah, i remeber seeing that in "once were worriers" :) |
| 02:31.11 | Guerin | american labelling laws are such that beers with more than 3.5% or so can't a ctually be called beer |
| 02:31.19 | abrotman | i picked up some growlers a few weeks ago .. the ABV of the three were 5.6,4.9, and |
| 02:31.22 | Guerin | liable: yeah, we call them once were warriors bottles |
| 02:31.26 | abrotman | 7.9 |
| 02:31.31 | liable | heh |
| 02:31.36 | Guerin | abrotman: do they have the word 'beer' anywhere on the label? |
| 02:31.38 | abrotman | Guerin: that's not true .. AT ALL |
| 02:31.51 | abrotman | dude .. yes |
| 02:31.57 | abrotman | yay for NZ fud |
| 02:32.08 | liable | Guerin: i hear you guys make some fairly good ciders too. |
| 02:32.13 | etrask | nothin' like a crate of beer to round off a monday |
| 02:32.45 | Guerin | abrotman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt_liquor |
| 02:32.53 | abrotman | Guerin: honestly .. i don't even know a beer/ale/whatever .. sold in the states less than 4% |
| 02:33.06 | abrotman | Guerin: that's total shit .. and wrong |
| 02:33.31 | Guerin | abrotman: that's also what I found while working in beer and wine import/export, and from all the other americans i KNOW |
| 02:33.54 | liable | i heard bud was like 3% |
| 02:33.54 | abrotman | Guerin: then you have personally met all the american tards |
| 02:33.59 | stoned | hey now |
| 02:34.02 | abrotman | Guerin: did you kick bush in the head? |
| 02:34.07 | Guerin | perhaps it's a state thing, but i thought alcohol was all federal |
| 02:34.07 | liable | all 300 million? :P |
| 02:34.12 | Guerin | abrotman: i wish. |
| 02:34.32 | etrask | alcohol isn't federal |
| 02:34.35 | etrask | eg: everclear is not legal in California |
| 02:34.45 | Guerin | hm, ok |
| 02:34.48 | stoned | ever clear man, that shit kicks your ass |
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| 02:34.53 | abrotman | yes .. they sell malt liquor .. but beer over 3.5% is not called malt liquir |
| 02:34.54 | zinx | liable: only 299.99 million or so are 'tards though. |
| 02:34.56 | abrotman | liquor |
| 02:35.02 | liable | zinx: :) |
| 02:35.07 | zenwryly | Ok, so I have a cdda.raw output file from cdparanoia. But I'm running a 2.6 kernel. What would I use to burn that image to a disc under a 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:35.10 | stoned | abrotman, same here. can't buy over 3.5% except for a liqour store |
| 02:35.22 | abrotman | we have distributors here |
| 02:35.45 | liable | thats one thing, i wish petrol stations sold beer here.. |
| 02:35.45 | abrotman | i can't buy any thing with alcohol in it outside of a state store or distributor or bar |
| 02:35.53 | abrotman | (i guess a winery) |
| 02:35.56 | etrask | yes, everclear will really do a number :P |
| 02:36.04 | zinx | there are counties here that can't sell beer, and many that can't sell beer on certain days |
| 02:36.07 | zinx | so it's not even a state thing |
| 02:36.09 | stoned | moonshine, 190proof |
| 02:36.27 | stoned | goddamn, we used to make slushis out of everclear |
| 02:36.27 | stoned | slushees |
| 02:36.27 | etrask | not to mention different drinking ages |
| 02:36.30 | etrask | in different states |
| 02:36.48 | etrask | i don't think you could freeze it, stoned :P |
| 02:37.00 | abrotman | oh look .. i found a beer in the states less than 3.5% .. amstel light :) |
| 02:37.01 | stoned | no you dingle nut |
| 02:37.15 | etrask | NOBODY MAKES FUN OF MY DINGLE! |
| 02:37.16 | Guerin | zinx: in many countries upper limits are federal/state/whatever while actual (lower) limits are local |
| 02:37.34 | stoned | Guerin, so where have you been? |
| 02:37.47 | liable | fucking hilarious |
| 02:38.07 | Guerin | stoned: korea, china, vietnam, cambodia, thailand, laos, brunei, australia, new zealand |
| 02:38.10 | stoned | holy fuck! |
| 02:38.14 | stoned | all in the past year |
| 02:38.15 | stoned | goddamn dude |
| 02:38.16 | Guerin | if you count transit, which isn't quite fair |
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| 02:38.22 | Guerin | stoned: in the past 5 months |
| 02:38.25 | stoned | holy moly |
| 02:38.27 | stoned | nice man |
| 02:38.28 | stoned | nice |
| 02:38.35 | jbrimble | I need help installing Debian on my new server. It doesn't detect my SATA drivers |
| 02:38.37 | jbrimble | *Drives |
| 02:38.46 | stoned | lol |
| 02:38.54 | etrask | Cobra |
| 02:38.54 | abrotman | jbrimble: which controller? |
| 02:38.56 | stoned | colt 45 and two zig zags, baby thats all we need... |
| 02:38.59 | abrotman | crazy horse! |
| 02:39.00 | Guerin | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 02:39.00 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 02:39.04 | Guerin | jbrimble: ^^ |
| 02:40.09 | jbrimble | I don't know what controller i have. |
| 02:40.13 | jbrimble | I'll check those links out |
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| 02:40.52 | Iam8up | what do i need to isntall if i get this? checking for mysql include path... configure: error: not found, please install the MySQL headers |
| 02:42.00 | abrotman | apt-cache search mysql dev |
| 02:42.04 | cafuego | Anyone wanna try out if they can make firefox can crash their X? |
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| 02:42.32 | Iam8up | cafuego - i'll test that in a few minutes, if you still need someone to |
| 02:42.45 | Iam8up | as far as crash, though - it won't touch xorg.conf will it? |
| 02:42.51 | cafuego | abrotman: I havea reproducable crash here with ff loading an extremely long string without newlines in atextarea |
| 02:43.16 | cafuego | Iam8up: No, it looks as if a ff buffer overflow bombs out X (X just restarts) |
| 02:43.17 | abrotman | cafuego: i've heard you can crash FF by using the search box with the same type of text string |
| 02:43.49 | Iam8up | cafuego - even better, gimmie a minute to setu pmy toaster |
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| 02:46.20 | jbrimble | Guerin, those links you sent me - is it alright to install Debian unstable on the server that we'll be using for work? |
| 02:46.37 | Guerin | jbrimble: no. |
| 02:46.49 | Guerin | jbrimble: /msg dpkg unstable |
| 02:47.06 | jbrimble | .msg dpkg unstable |
| 02:47.34 | jbrimble | hehe yeah i fixed that :P |
| 02:47.52 | jbrimble | So, there's no sarge release that'll support SATA installation? |
| 02:48.15 | cafuego | jbrimble: The default one does, as long as you don't have an sata controller that it recognises. |
| 02:48.27 | cafuego | s/recognises/doesn't recognise/ |
| 02:48.39 | cafuego | For instance, mine works fine. |
| 02:48.41 | Guerin | jbrimble: yes, but some chipsets are fucked, and the sarge releases don't work on the. So you use kmuto's installer, which will install plain old sarge with a different kernel |
| 02:48.47 | etrask | my sata drives work fine too |
| 02:49.22 | jbrimble | Hmm.. I have no idea what my SATA controller is, but it's a new Dell server. The default sarge installer didn't detect the drives though |
| 02:49.34 | abrotman | it's crap |
| 02:49.38 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 02:49.38 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.15 is, like, http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 02:49.39 | cafuego | if you happen to have an nvidia nforce4 or some newfangled intel thing, you're SOL and need a sarge iso with the 2.6.15 kernel. |
| 02:49.40 | abrotman | if you're lucky |
| 02:49.40 | Guerin | !dell |
| 02:49.41 | dpkg | [dell] a wonderful company that makes very wonderful laptops, but also some extremely bad laptops. For new ISOs to boot your Dell server, look at http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ or the worst company you could ever do business with, or crap, or http://www.domsch.com/linux/, or http://linux.dell.com/ |
| 02:49.57 | jbrimble | Thankyou Guerin |
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| 02:51.02 | jbrimble | This is based on the 2.4.31 kernel, that's not the latest, is it? |
| 02:51.29 | abrotman | i could say sarge 2.6.15 again .. but why |
| 02:51.35 | abrotman | oh i know .. Dell sucks |
| 02:52.05 | jbrimble | Okay, i'll download 2.6.15 |
| 02:52.16 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 02:52.16 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
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| 02:53.18 | jbrimble | thanks for your tolerance, guys. I'm pretty new to this stuff |
| 02:53.59 | rhys | anyone use IPcop on here? |
| 02:54.10 | MiniDevil | I'm just getting started with Linux myself |
| 02:54.12 | liable | jbrimble: oh, and by the way, RTFM noob :D |
| 02:54.18 | liable | jk :) |
| 02:54.30 | MiniDevil | Pretty hard to learn when I dont even know basic command lines :D |
| 02:54.38 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 02:54.39 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 02:55.13 | jbrimble | haha liable. |
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| 02:59.14 | Gumby | can anyone tell me what the proper way is to get the needed kernel-headers/source to compile ati or nvidia drivers in debian? |
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| 02:59.29 | Iam8up | who wanted to test a firefox/x exploit? |
| 02:59.38 | Iam8up | wanted me to test, rather |
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| 03:00.24 | stew | cafuego: ^ |
| 03:01.50 | abrotman | Gumby: which one do you want? |
| 03:01.53 | cafuego | Iam8up: Never mind, I can't reproduce it on my other box. |
| 03:02.33 | Chronx | i need to compile my program on my linux box but it needs to run on a mac osx box.. how can i do that ? |
| 03:02.35 | Gumby | abrotman: I am trying to install the ati drivers. I messages dpkg about fglrx and ati but I think I am having issues due to not having the sources installed/setup properly |
| 03:02.53 | abrotman | !fglrx |
| 03:02.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 03:03.03 | abrotman | Gumby: and you have contrib/non-free ? |
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| 03:03.49 | Gumby | abrotman: yes |
| 03:04.02 | abrotman | Gumby: and you're running etch/sid ? |
| 03:04.19 | Gumby | abrotman: yes |
| 03:04.27 | Gumby | sorry, etch |
| 03:04.50 | abrotman | Gumby: and the above lines don't work ? |
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| 03:06.20 | Gumby | abrotman: fglrx-driver, fglrx-control, fglrx-kernel-src do not exist |
| 03:06.35 | Gumby | maybe they are only in sid now |
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| 03:07.15 | abrotman | Gumby: good call :) |
| 03:07.37 | abrotman | Gumby: at least we know you're not retarded :) |
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| 03:07.54 | Gumby | abrotman: looks like unstable only |
| 03:07.58 | abrotman | give it a few days |
| 03:08.09 | Gumby | I am an impatient bastard |
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| 03:08.30 | abrotman | ok .. get them from sid .. cross your legs .. pray |
| 03:08.34 | Gumby | well, it is a testbox. hehe. maybe I can shove some unstable packages in there :) |
| 03:08.44 | Gumby | well, not a testbox, but a PVR frontend |
| 03:10.03 | Iam8up | cafuego - ok, that's cool |
| 03:10.06 | Iam8up | i had to plug in my toaster anyways |
| 03:10.18 | abrotman | 8 up over who? |
| 03:10.31 | Iam8up | i am ate up |
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| 03:10.46 | Gumby | lol, just my luck. the packages I need to install conflict with the ones I need installed |
| 03:11.00 | Gumby | or rather already have and need installed |
| 03:12.07 | abrotman | eh .. force deps ? |
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| 03:13.25 | Gumby | maybe I should just find a pci nvidia card. hehe |
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| 03:14.36 | Gumby | or figure out how to configure my kernel sources so that I can try to manually install the ati driver |
| 03:15.14 | etrask | I have a Debian 3.1 Net Install CD... is there a way to have it install with 2.6.4.15, or whatever that latest kernel is? |
| 03:15.25 | etrask | i need support for my network card for that CD to work [obviously] |
| 03:15.36 | etrask | but linux26 doesn't work, i guess |
| 03:15.44 | etrask | and #ubuntu... good god, #ubuntu |
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| 03:19.21 | Gumby | etrask: what doesnt work about linux26 ? |
| 03:19.30 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 03:19.30 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo> |
| 03:19.31 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 03:19.32 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 03:19.34 | abrotman | i meant that one! |
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| 03:20.17 | etrask | i have no idea what those sites are about, abrotman |
| 03:20.26 | etrask | Gumby: linux26... my network card doesn't work at all with it |
| 03:20.45 | Gumby | etrask: which network card is it and which module does it need? |
| 03:20.49 | etrask | it gets to the DHCP stage, then... nothing |
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| 03:21.06 | etrask | i have no idea which module, but "VIA Networking Velocity Family Giga-bit Ethernet Adapter" |
| 03:21.12 | etrask | is the NIC |
| 03:22.22 | Gumby | one idea might be to grab the mini iso, install it, download and xfer newer kernel and any dependancies it may have via cd and then install the newer kernel |
| 03:22.52 | etrask | hey, whoa... i'm a total linux newb :P |
| 03:23.00 | Gumby | you should really figure out which kernel module that card uses though. its good to know these things |
| 03:23.35 | Gumby | etrask: if you are a total linuc newb then debian may not be for you. hehe. then again, if you like learning by trial and error and troubleshooting then it just might |
| 03:23.37 | etrask | that'd be great, i'd much prefer to have Debian on here than ubuntu |
| 03:23.49 | Gumby | etrask: thats a wise choice :) |
| 03:23.59 | etrask | Gumby: well, i run a debian server in the den, too... it worked fine with everything though |
| 03:24.06 | liable | etrask: try the etch installer then.. |
| 03:24.09 | etrask | [okay, maybe i'm not a TOTAL linux newb... but still pretty new] |
| 03:24.13 | etrask | http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm <-- this? |
| 03:24.26 | liable | no |
| 03:24.54 | liable | http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 03:35.13 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 03:35.14 | dpkg | [qotd91] <tarmath> I've got 2 incredibly easy questions! Anyone can answer, and thus feel better that they could be of help to someone! |
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| 03:47.03 | basis | anyone ever tried to install on a libretto? |
| 03:47.32 | stew | basis: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 03:47.45 | basis | heh ... no. a 100ct ... pcmcia floppy, 2.1g hdd, no cdrom :) |
| 03:48.03 | basis | i'm making progress (i think) |
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| 03:50.17 | elik_laptop | stew, I digged out on the sound problem I had |
| 03:50.28 | elik_laptop | stew, but there is still something I can't figure out |
| 03:50.34 | laoba | after removing and repinstalling mplayer, i cannot stream video with firefox anymore. is there a way to config firefox to use mplayer? |
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| 03:51.50 | liable | laoba: is the mzilla plugin still installed? |
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| 03:52.29 | laoba | liable: i use mozplugger, which is still installed. |
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| 03:52.36 | LoneWlf | Does anyone know what to do about firefox locking up in ubuntu? |
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| 03:52.57 | liable | LoneWlf: ask in #ubuntu is a good start |
| 03:53.07 | stew | LoneWlf: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu, its off-topic here |
| 03:53.11 | elik_laptop | LoneWlf, I guess someone would tell you rather soon to go look #ubuntu |
| 03:53.12 | LoneWlf | true |
| 03:53.59 | LoneWlf | and I have asked there:) figured I'd just thro it out here to see if anyone might have run into this before here... I'm guessing that the prob isn't all that diff, as it is still linux+firefox |
| 03:53.59 | liable | LoneWlf: about:plugins .. i guess.. |
| 03:54.04 | LoneWlf | never a dull moment |
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| 03:54.47 | LoneWlf | liable: am I looking for anything inparticular? |
| 03:55.05 | liable | LoneWlf: erm, sorry, nicktab borkage |
| 03:55.09 | liable | laoba: ^^ |
| 03:55.38 | LoneWlf | no worries, thanks anywho |
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| 03:59.01 | laoba | laible: about:plugins show that mozplugger is there. |
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| 04:00.15 | liable | laoba: never used mozplugger, try the mozilla-mplayer package |
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| 04:02.41 | etrask | liable: the net install CD i was using [that didn't work with my network card] was 3.1 r1a "Sarge" |
| 04:02.49 | etrask | were there any fixes from r1a to r2? |
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| 04:02.51 | etrask | [in this area?] |
| 04:05.31 | nflenz | Do you need to use Sarge? I always install Etch when Sarge doesn't see all of my hardware. |
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| 04:06.06 | etrask | i don't know what i need to use :( |
| 04:06.12 | liable | etrask: no. thats why people have pointed you to the one with the 2.6.15 kernel, or the etch installer. |
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| 04:08.12 | nflenz | You should download the Etch installer, then. Chances are that you would've upgraded from stable anyway. |
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| 04:08.50 | etrask | i'm getting that now |
| 04:08.50 | etrask | ...slowly :P |
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| 04:10.55 | liable | hrm, can ddclient do two dyndns servers? |
| 04:11.32 | Led-Hed | I'm switching from RH/Fedora to Debian. Is there a command in Deb that is equivelent to RH's service command. Example: service dhcpd start? |
| 04:11.47 | stew | !red hat tools |
| 04:11.48 | dpkg | If you're a (former) Red Hat tool looking for Red Hat Tools on debian, you won't find many. But: chkconfig={sysvconfig,sysv-rc-conf,rcconf,update-rc.d}; service=invoke-rc.d; kudzu=discover; rc.local=bootmisc; etc. |
| 04:11.56 | shogunx | liable 2 instances probably can. |
| 04:12.08 | magyar | is there a howto for setting up https on sarge? |
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| 04:12.17 | shogunx | if there is a switch to set the config file. |
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| 04:12.28 | Led-Hed | stew, thanks |
| 04:12.34 | liable | shogunx: will look into it i guess :) |
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| 04:17.56 | grendal_prime | ok i got these modules that are not loading at boot |
| 04:18.00 | grendal_prime | making me nuts |
| 04:18.14 | stew | grendal_prime: are they in /etc/modules? |
| 04:20.17 | grendal_prime | well i can tell you this they are mousedev and usbmouse |
| 04:21.13 | grendal_prime | all i have in that file are ide-cd |
| 04:21.13 | grendal_prime | ide-detect |
| 04:21.13 | grendal_prime | ide-disk |
| 04:21.13 | grendal_prime | psmouse |
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| 04:21.58 | grendal_prime | grrrr |
| 04:22.19 | grendal_prime | why would those modules not get included in that file.. |
| 04:23.30 | grendal_prime | there sure are very few modules loaded... |
| 04:23.58 | grendal_prime | this was a dist upgrade from sarge to etch, im a little disenchanted with the way apt delt with it. |
| 04:24.22 | grendal_prime | i do not seem to have dri working anymore..total bitch there as well |
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| 04:25.03 | grendal_prime | stew, you ever had that happen |
| 04:25.34 | Led-Hed | the tools above. invoke-rc.d blah bla, are they more universal then the RH tools? Or are they specific to Deb? |
| 04:25.54 | peterS | Led-Hed: I think invoke-rc.d is LSB, but I'm not sure |
| 04:26.06 | Led-Hed | LSB? |
| 04:26.16 | peterS | Linux Standard Base |
| 04:26.19 | Led-Hed | ahh |
| 04:26.57 | Led-Hed | ok, It just sucks being a n00b and learning RH then finding out that much of what you've learned is specific to one Distro |
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| 04:28.21 | grendal_prime | ya thats what pissed me off about rh as well |
| 04:28.49 | grendal_prime | that and the fact that it ran a shitload of stuff all the time |
| 04:28.56 | simonrvn | i thought {invoke,update}-rc.d was debian |
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| 04:31.49 | peterS | simonrvn: it is, but I think the LSB adopted at least update-rc.d, possibly both |
| 04:32.07 | simonrvn | oh i see. |
| 04:32.30 | simonrvn | if that's the case, then debian wasn't totally left out when they were setting this up ;) |
| 04:32.50 | shogunx | one could just call the script directly... /etc/init.d/foo start |
| 04:33.17 | peterS | shogunx: right, but then it starts unconditionally even if it's not supposed to be started in your runlevel |
| 04:33.28 | simonrvn | of course. i remember some old rh installs had stuff like /etc/rc.d/init.d/foo or some weird shite |
| 04:33.49 | shogunx | peterS isn't that the point, to do just that? |
| 04:35.01 | shogunx | i mean, if you are explicity calling it, you obviously want it on or off. |
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| 04:40.11 | dn4 | Big whorls have little whorls, |
| 04:40.11 | dn4 | That feed on their velocity; |
| 04:40.11 | dn4 | And little whorls have lesser whorls, |
| 04:40.11 | dn4 | And so on to viscosity. |
| 04:40.11 | dn4 | ~Edward Lorenz |
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| 04:40.32 | liable | where can i get a free .wiki.org or something domain name? |
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| 04:42.04 | grendal_prime | does dri even exist in xorg? |
| 04:42.34 | wireddd | whats the package name for the mozilla kaffiene plugin? |
| 04:42.53 | peterS | 'apt-cache search mozilla kaffeine' |
| 04:43.04 | grendal_prime | id user the mplayer one though |
| 04:43.05 | peterS | make sure to misspell the drug name correctly |
| 04:43.13 | wireddd | ah I was spelling kaffiene wrong |
| 04:43.25 | wireddd | err kaffeine |
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| 04:52.43 | grendal_prime | stew? |
| 04:53.10 | grendal_prime | i put those int the etc/modules and they did load but that makes me wonder how many other things, should be in there. |
| 04:53.14 | grendal_prime | that may not be in there |
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| 04:53.51 | liable | grendal_prime: discover/hotplug takes care of a lot of em |
| 04:53.57 | wireddd | a while ago I changed which partition is mounted as / from hda1 to hda3, but everytime something gets upgraded, it gets set back to hda1, is there something debian specific that I have to change to make it stick? |
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| 04:54.30 | liable | wireddd: menu.lst ##kopt values |
| 04:54.35 | grendal_prime | ya but like im trying to get dri working in xorg. no luck..is there a kernel mod that is supposed to be fired up for that to work? |
| 04:54.58 | liable | wireddd: or ##groot (forget which) |
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| 04:57.51 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, are u trying to get dri working with the i810 driver ?? |
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| 04:59.53 | amphi | gejo_deb: install ntpdate or some such |
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| 05:01.49 | gejo_deb | amphi: already installed ntp date and my time is spanish timing |
| 05:01.55 | gejo_deb | amphi: server 0.es.pool.ntp.org |
| 05:01.59 | gejo_deb | is it correct |
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| 05:04.28 | grendal_prime | inkypinky, ya, is it possible? |
| 05:05.00 | grendal_prime | im wondering if it set it for 32 bit mode..i know it can only handle it in 16, but i dont see any error about dri at all |
| 05:05.07 | grendal_prime | not in dmesg anyway |
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| 05:05.49 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, try dmesg | grep drm if you see some thing then dri initialized otherwise not |
| 05:06.29 | grendal_prime | nada |
| 05:06.30 | gejo_deb | is the command will update my server with spanish time ntpdate 0.es.pool.ntp.org |
| 05:06.43 | inkypinky | also I was able to get drm working by using the cureent snapshot modules from the i915 package at dri.freedesktop.org |
| 05:07.11 | cfrisch | gejo_deb: man ntp |
| 05:08.19 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, I just replaced the default i810_drv and the i915_dri files with the files from the package |
| 05:08.42 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 05:08.46 | grendal_prime | what package? |
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| 05:09.31 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, I was able to get drm working by using the cureent snapshot modules from the i915 package at dri.freedesktop.org |
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| 05:10.27 | grendal_prime | fk are you kidding me...i |
| 05:10.31 | grendal_prime | what laptop? |
| 05:10.55 | grendal_prime | i dont think thats what the problem is..i think something is just not getting loaded |
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| 05:12.22 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, I have dell e1405 with 945gm chipset the package I used was http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/i915-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2 the i810 driver will load the kernel dri driver |
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| 05:13.03 | grendal_prime | i had it working just fine in xfree |
| 05:13.07 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrr |
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| 05:14.21 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, also make sure that the u have load "dri" in ur xorg.conf oh did u switch from xfree to xorg ?? are u on testing stable or unstable ? |
| 05:14.51 | grendal_prime | testing now..i was on sarge |
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| 05:15.53 | grendal_prime | ya load dri is in the xorg.conf |
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| 05:16.59 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, the current xorg i810 driver in unstable works fine with the GMA950 graphics also if u need widescreen check out the debian package 915resolution |
| 05:17.48 | grendal_prime | i have an intel graphics extreem. shared onboard memory |
| 05:18.24 | belracu | inkypinky, make sure ur bios settings are also set aside some mem for the graphics card |
| 05:18.46 | inkypinky | grendal_prime, in that case checkout 855resolution these cards dont automatically allocate bios memory |
| 05:19.07 | inkypinky | belracu, lol |
| 05:19.19 | belracu | :P |
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| 05:19.51 | linuxdesktop | How do i enable ttf fonts in debian |
| 05:20.02 | linuxdesktop | i tried all the usual steps but still not working |
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| 05:20.13 | peterS | linuxdesktop: you install some. apt-cache search ttf |
| 05:20.40 | linuxdesktop | no installed some other ttf fonts |
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| 05:21.04 | linuxdesktop | cd to /usr/share/fonts/truetype |
| 05:21.04 | [Cadet] | linuxdesktop: apt-get install msttcorefonts |
| 05:22.49 | peterS | linuxdesktop: install the x-ttcidfont-conf package too, I think that's needed |
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| 05:23.34 | linuxdesktop | E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate |
| 05:23.41 | linuxdesktop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.46 | linuxdesktop | is already installed |
| 05:23.55 | linuxdesktop | what is did is |
| 05:24.31 | peterS | msttcorefonts is just a set of fonts, from Microsoft. the package isn't in debian main because it isn't free software |
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| 05:25.58 | stoned | asdlkjflksjdf |
| 05:26.02 | stoned | oh whoops |
| 05:26.04 | linuxdesktop | cd to /usr/share/fonts/truetype; mkdir myfonts; copy fonts to myfonts; cd myfonts; ttmkfdir > fonts.scale; mkfontdir; add the line "myfonts" 0 ".dir" to fonts.cache-1: |
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| 05:26.11 | peterS | testing your home row, stoned? |
| 05:26.18 | stoned | nah, I dunno wtf happened |
| 05:26.33 | linuxdesktop | stil dosnt work |
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| 05:27.28 | streuner | lol |
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| 05:27.36 | stoned | streuner, msg please |
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| 05:28.41 | gl1tchy0ne | Hey guys need some help... I need to install debian or at least some linux on a sys without cdrom drive... Does have a USB Hard drive |
| 05:29.03 | gl1tchy0ne | does not have previous os that is bootable |
| 05:29.21 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: if your BIOS is capable of booting a USB drive, you can create an install disk that way |
| 05:29.35 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: some (not terribly adequate, but it's a start) instructions are in the installation manual |
| 05:29.41 | WireDDD | when xorg trys to start now, it crashes and says that /dev/input/mice is not a device. What do I need to do to fix this, the mouse hasn't changed its a logitech usb mouse. |
| 05:29.42 | gl1tchy0ne | how do you create a install disk on a hard drive |
| 05:30.00 | gl1tchy0ne | peters, I will look that up now |
| 05:30.05 | peterS | WireDDD: /dev/input/mice is provided by the 'mousedev' kernel driver |
| 05:30.11 | peterS | WireDDD: so 'modprobe mousedev' if necessary |
| 05:30.20 | gl1tchy0ne | so it can be done with just a hard drive? |
| 05:30.22 | [Cadet] | gl1tchy0ne: copy the kernel and initrd from a netinst cd to the hard disk and setup a boot loader to boot it |
| 05:30.25 | stoned | or put it in /etc/modules |
| 05:30.44 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: obviously you have to have some way to write data to the hard drive before you can install from it. if you don't have a computer capable of that, I guess you're stuck |
| 05:30.52 | stoned | well |
| 05:30.54 | stoned | not really |
| 05:30.59 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: kind of like if you want to use a CD-R, you have to have a working CD burner somewhere |
| 05:31.05 | stoned | if you have a pc that can boot in to windows or *nix of some sort |
| 05:31.10 | stoned | you can run a netinstaller |
| 05:31.14 | WireDDD | peterS what could have caused that to not be loaded at boot? |
| 05:31.17 | gl1tchy0ne | peters, have that... any know of a walkthrough to create a hdd to install linux? |
| 05:31.24 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: I already pointed you to the installation manual |
| 05:31.36 | peterS | the installation manual is a manual meant for people doing installations |
| 05:31.36 | stoned | I believe its section 5 of the debian installation manual |
| 05:31.44 | stoned | I can't remember exactly |
| 05:31.55 | stoned | booting the debian installer from hd |
| 05:31.59 | gl1tchy0ne | ok was just not sure how complete it was from your statement peters |
| 05:32.09 | gl1tchy0ne | thank you greatly |
| 05:32.18 | gl1tchy0ne | I guess what I was looking to do was make sure it can be done |
| 05:32.22 | gl1tchy0ne | now I will figure out how |
| 05:32.37 | peterS | gl1tchy0ne: well, as I said, it may or may not be detailed _enough_. I haven't looked at it in awhile but I seem to remember it's a bit sketchy. come back if it's not good enough. |
| 05:33.02 | gl1tchy0ne | thank you peters and stoned for the information |
| 05:33.04 | stoned | gl1tchy0ne, the pc you want to intsall debian on, what OS does it currently run |
| 05:33.17 | peterS | stoned: he said it doesn't boot anything at all |
| 05:33.20 | stoned | gl1tchy0ne, I see |
| 05:33.23 | gl1tchy0ne | stoned some hacked up version of linux |
| 05:33.35 | stoned | gl1tchy0ne, so it does boot into an OS? |
| 05:33.38 | gl1tchy0ne | but I dont think it is suable |
| 05:33.42 | stoned | I see |
| 05:33.44 | gl1tchy0ne | usable |
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| 05:34.06 | gl1tchy0ne | up it is a neoware c50 |
| 05:34.10 | gl1tchy0ne | thin client |
| 05:34.16 | streuner | dpkg, be a better knower barbie |
| 05:34.17 | dpkg | Aww, better knower is HARD! Let's go shopping, streuner |
| 05:34.27 | stoned | well, if you can get into that box's bootloader config, then you're set, you can install debian |
| 05:34.31 | stoned | if not, then I dunno |
| 05:34.35 | stoned | probably shit out of luck |
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| 05:35.02 | gl1tchy0ne | well it will at least give me a challenge! and that sounds like fun |
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| 05:36.15 | gl1tchy0ne | anyone else having trouble getting to debian.org? |
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| 05:36.37 | streuner | gluck is down |
| 05:36.41 | streuner | so it seems |
| 05:37.01 | gl1tchy0ne | wow that is the first time I have seem debian down |
| 05:37.07 | gl1tchy0ne | not getting reply to ping either |
| 05:37.11 | gl1tchy0ne | man what luck! |
| 05:37.12 | stoned | I havne't |
| 05:37.19 | stoned | heh, few years back packages.debian.org was hacked |
| 05:37.32 | stoned | that was the first time I saw debian security compromised |
| 05:37.40 | Vasistha | it's been a few years now, huh? |
| 05:37.46 | gl1tchy0ne | yeah I wonder if they will say why there are down once it comes back up |
| 05:37.47 | stoned | about 2 maybe |
| 05:37.53 | stoned | I can't recall man, I'm a pothead |
| 05:37.55 | stoned | go figure |
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| 05:38.59 | peterS | Vasistha: november 2003, I think |
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| 05:39.39 | streuner | hi lilo |
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| 05:40.16 | Vasistha | (freenode-social) [22:39] <lilo> I'm not here, I went to sleep earlier |
| 05:40.18 | rohan | using kde, i just started firefox and it has highly ugly un antialiased fonts .. how do i get them to look like the kde apps one ? |
| 05:40.48 | streuner | at this time, that's pretty unusual |
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| 05:41.28 | streuner | Vasistha: but, thanks. |
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| 05:42.59 | meekish | when I apt-get install postfix-mysql, apt-get says it is going to REMOVE the following packages: dummy-webmin-deb mysql-client-4.1 mysql-common-4.1 mysql-passwd mysql-server-4.1 webmin-mysql |
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| 05:43.08 | meekish | has anyone ever seen something like this before? |
| 05:43.47 | shark_ | meekish: it might be because postfix-mysql is design for 5.X version of mysql |
| 05:44.08 | Vasistha | meekish: that's exactly what happens when there is a package conflict |
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| 05:45.07 | meekish | it just doesn't make sense, why would postfix-mysql remove the mysql server? wouldn't mysql server be a dependency of postfix-mysql? |
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| 05:46.52 | Vasistha | meekish: why don't you get on p.d.o and check? |
| 05:47.03 | Dewi | how would I go about changing the tab stops on my terminal? |
| 05:47.13 | Dewi | it's a virtual terminal in screen in putty |
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| 05:47.33 | Dewi | I've tried setterm -regtabs but it seemed to do nothing, maybe it was expecting some other archaic type of term |
| 05:48.04 | Vasistha | Dewi: are you asking us to help you with putty settings? |
| 05:48.19 | Dewi | Vasistha: no, I think it's more on the server side of the terminal |
| 05:48.26 | Dewi | Vasistha: but maybe I'm wrong, I don't really know where it lives |
| 05:48.30 | shark_ | try "export TERM=xterm" |
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| 05:48.55 | Dewi | shark_: it's not that my term is fucked up, I just want to deviate from having tab stops = 8 |
| 05:49.07 | shark_ | setterm -reset |
| 05:49.11 | Dewi | shark_: so that I can cat and diff source code that looks normal instead of really wide |
| 05:49.13 | shark_ | maybe |
| 05:49.23 | meekish | Vasistha: What is p.d.o.? |
| 05:49.37 | Vasistha | !p.d.o |
| 05:49.37 | dpkg | search is probably try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
| 05:49.56 | Vasistha | meekish: although my search is not turning out successful :P |
| 05:50.34 | Dewi | I think putty gets blocks of space rather than tabs, purely because when cutting and pasting the tabs have become spaces |
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| 05:51.29 | stoned | all the bots are listed here |
| 05:51.31 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 05:51.32 | dpkg | dpkgbot is, like, Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. |
| 05:51.37 | stoned | btw |
| 05:53.02 | Vasistha | meekish: I'm looking around, and I can't find any conflicts that would affect you ... perhaps there is some other conflict already, and installing postfix-mysql is not what is causing the conflict/uninstall ? |
| 05:53.26 | TraceGreen | Hello, does anyone use msexpand? i try to msexpand ntoskrnl.ex_ which from windows XP install CD, but msexpand told me it is not MS-compressed file, why? |
| 05:54.24 | Dewi | so have any of you ever changed their tab width in a linux terminal? |
| 05:54.51 | meekish | Vasistha: here is a pastie of of dpkg -l | grep mysql. Can you see anything that might look suspect? |
| 05:54.52 | Dewi | TraceGreen: there are a lot of CAB compressed formats out there |
| 05:54.55 | meekish | http://pastie.caboo.se/4299 |
| 05:55.01 | Vasistha | Dewi: I haven't, in fact, I can't even think of when I have used the tab width ... oh, perhaps for editing in some editor? |
| 05:55.21 | Dewi | Vasistha: I jsut want to cat some source code and have it look less wide |
| 05:55.30 | TraceGreen | Dewi, so, what shall i do? |
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| 05:55.52 | Vasistha | Dewi: why don't you just pipe it through sed, and replace the tabs with a certain number of spaces? |
| 05:55.56 | Dewi | TraceGreen: you could try some of the other things that open cabs... winrar, 7zip? |
| 05:56.27 | Dewi | Vasistha: because attaching a pipe to every program ever to hit stdout for the rest of my life isn't a pleasant thought |
| 05:56.51 | Dewi | particularly since tabs are not simply a number of spaces |
| 05:56.56 | Dewi | they are more complicated than that |
| 05:57.40 | TraceGreen | Dewi, for example, I try msexpand, unzip, unrar to advapi32.dl_, but all these tools don't recognize its format. |
| 05:57.54 | TraceGreen | Dewi, I use Debian linux |
| 05:58.46 | Vasistha | Dewi: hrm. And you have tabs that are not at the beginning of a line? :P |
| 05:59.13 | Dewi | TraceGreen: there are a lot of CAB formats. Maybe no linux decompressor exists. They are not meant to be messed with by users |
| 05:59.35 | Dewi | TraceGreen: why are you trying to decompress an NT kernel anyway? |
| 05:59.39 | Dewi | TraceGreen: sounds like a bad move to me |
| 06:00.06 | Vasistha | meekish: I can't say I know what to do with that list, however I am noticing that the columns are being truncated because of a bug in dpkg -l. The bug pops up when you redirect its output. Instead of piping to grep, why don't you dpkg -l *mysql* |
| 06:00.19 | Dewi | TraceGreen: I mean... if that's an original XP install CD how many times has the kernel been patched since then? |
| 06:00.30 | Dewi | (note: I actually have no idea how often it is patched) |
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| 06:01.23 | rohan | also |
| 06:01.24 | Dewi | Vasistha: tabs that aren't are often a Bad Thing but the practice of putting tabs on either side of '=' is quite widespread :P |
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| 06:01.34 | meekish | dpkg -l *mysql* yields this: No packages found matching mysql-init. |
| 06:01.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching *mysql* yields this: No packages found matching mysql-init. |
| 06:01.38 | rohan | for some strange reason, i have lost all icons on buttons in kde like Ok, apply, cancel |
| 06:01.42 | rohan | it looks so bland |
| 06:01.47 | rohan | what was fscked up ? |
| 06:01.56 | Dewi | rohan: ouch |
| 06:02.08 | rohan | :( |
| 06:02.11 | Dewi | rohan: poor old x-windows. It just never quite... sigh. |
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| 06:02.21 | rohan | and the the jagged fonts in firefox .. awwww ! |
| 06:02.33 | Dewi | rohan: god the latest gnome has nice fonts in firefox |
| 06:02.35 | Vasistha | where'd the -init come from? That's odd... it worked just fine for me (sarge here) |
| 06:02.39 | Dewi | rohan: I dunno what they did but it's sexy |
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| 06:02.50 | rohan | Dewi: ok :) |
| 06:02.56 | grendal_prime | ok this is just rediculas |
| 06:02.57 | grendal_prime | warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been |
| 06:02.58 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:03.03 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 06:03.09 | Vasistha | !drxx |
| 06:03.09 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 06:03.10 | grendal_prime | how can i get rid of that problem |
| 06:03.13 | Dewi | rohan: maybe you should switch to gnome. I know I keep changing my mind about which is the more brittle :) |
| 06:03.28 | Vasistha | grendal_prime: see the factoid ^^^ |
| 06:03.28 | grendal_prime | !xmd5 |
| 06:03.29 | dpkg | from memory, x md5sum is If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. Ask me about <xorgmd5> if you ... |
| 06:03.37 | rohan | Dewi: thanks but no thanks :) |
| 06:03.50 | rohan | !selftell |
| 06:03.51 | dpkg | Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". See also <msg the bot> |
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| 06:04.34 | meekish | Vasistha: if I drop the tailing *, it get this: http://pastie.caboo.se/4300 |
| 06:04.36 | Mulder | is sftp with ssh2 (openssh) on debian sarge supporting resume download/upload because that code is ini the vanilla openssh trunk? or is that a 3rd party patch |
| 06:05.04 | Dewi | Mulder: which part is the question? |
| 06:05.28 | meekish | Vasistha: as you'll see, i went ahead and let postfix do its thing, hoping i could come back and reinstall mysql-server, but they just keep removing each other |
| 06:05.37 | Mulder | Dewi, whether sftp file up/down resume is already in openssh, or whether it was a patch debian added to their distributed package in sarge |
| 06:05.44 | Dewi | Mulder: I have a feeling it doesn't support resume in the trunk, but I might be thinking of scp and not sftp |
| 06:05.55 | Vasistha | meekish: I know ;-) protect it with quotes: "*mysql*" |
| 06:06.00 | Dewi | Mulder: easy way to check. [sshs to openbsd] |
| 06:06.22 | Mulder | Dewi, heh good point |
| 06:06.25 | Dewi | Mulder: what's the switch in debian? |
| 06:06.41 | Vasistha | meekish: you must be sitting in a directory that contains a file called mysql-init so bash expands *mysql* to mysql-init before sending the search string to dpkg -l |
| 06:06.48 | meekish | Vasistha: there we go: http://pastie.caboo.se/4301 |
| 06:07.05 | Dewi | Mulder: I can't see the word resume in either man page |
| 06:07.18 | meekish | Vasistha: well right you are :) |
| 06:07.29 | Mulder | Dewi, i'm using a windows client right now. havent had time to test with cli sftp. but i do notice that filezilla handles it automatically and that it uses "true" at the end of a get command if the file exists, and 'false" if you're creating from scratch |
| 06:08.08 | Dewi | meekish: bash processes stars before they even get to a program, unless you specifically stop it |
| 06:08.19 | meekish | i see |
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| 06:08.56 | Dewi | meekish: when in doubt, I go nuts with 'surrounding' 'params' 'in' 'single' 'quotes' |
| 06:09.20 | Dewi | well, my terminal tab size adventure isn't going too well |
| 06:09.34 | Dewi | maybe I'll stick to using spaces for indentation |
| 06:09.40 | Vasistha | Dewi: I wonder if you might have better luck asking about the tab stops in #bash ... I suspect some folks in there know a lot about terminals |
| 06:09.43 | Dewi | but it feels like a sad solution |
| 06:09.52 | Dewi | Vasistha: hehe. That's a good point. I'll give it a try. |
| 06:09.58 | rohan | so what do i do for those icons on button ? |
| 06:10.02 | TraceGreen | Dewi, thanks, I can use winrar to decompress it, but why decompress tool such as unrar, unzip can not? |
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| 06:10.15 | Vasistha | rohan: perhaps it's a problem with a kde theme |
| 06:10.16 | Dewi | TraceGreen: because there are many different types of CAB |
| 06:10.19 | Mulder | Dewi, i guess it must be in trunk now. works with openbsd too |
| 06:10.26 | meekish | rohan: #kde ? |
| 06:10.26 | Dewi | TraceGreen: no decompressor I have used supports them all |
| 06:10.32 | Mulder | Dewi, must be an 'undocumented' feature |
| 06:10.33 | Vasistha | rohan: try changing your theme? I'll look up the place in the kcontrol panel if you like |
| 06:10.48 | rohan | Vasistha: no this used to work properly .. just after this filesystem corruption and then the fsck deleted some files |
| 06:10.49 | Dewi | Mulder: does it just pop up when you attempt a transfer? |
| 06:10.52 | rohan | after which i've lost icons |
| 06:10.53 | TraceGreen | Dewi, thanks. |
| 06:11.20 | Dewi | Mulder: I'd be quite surprised if it was something debian added. OpenBSD trunk is an absolutely excellent piece of software. |
| 06:11.20 | Mulder | i get propmpted whether i want to resume or not |
| 06:11.27 | Vasistha | rohan: erm, well, I'd still encourage you to try changing themes, it may be that some of those theme icon files were lost, perhaps all you need to do is somehow fix the themes with apt |
| 06:11.35 | Mulder | Dewi, i think the CLI might be "get file.blah TRUE" to resume though |
| 06:11.41 | Mulder | Dewi, in sftp that is |
| 06:11.47 | rohan | Vasistha: its just lipstik and nuvola :) |
| 06:12.40 | Vasistha | rohan: maybe the control you want is 'style' |
| 06:12.41 | grendal_prime | this is absofucking lutly rediculas |
| 06:12.54 | rohan | Vasistha: ok, i will reinstall lipstik |
| 06:13.01 | Vasistha | rohan: heh, or 'icons' |
| 06:13.06 | rohan | yes |
| 06:13.11 | rohan | i tried icons |
| 06:13.14 | rohan | didnt help |
| 06:13.24 | Vasistha | grendal_prime: did you do as the dpkg factoids suggested? |
| 06:13.44 | grendal_prime | all of them |
| 06:13.58 | Vasistha | rohan: I wonder if you tried troubleshooting-testing things like installing a new theme? |
| 06:14.06 | rohan | changing it to plastik didnt help |
| 06:14.08 | rohan | still no icons |
| 06:15.35 | Vasistha | grendal_prime: wait a second, /etc/X11/X is just a symlink to (well, on my machine) /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 06:15.57 | Vasistha | grrr |
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| 06:18.25 | Mulder | Dewi, putty's sftp supports it too heh. i guess the protocol support is there but possibly it's not supported in the clients yet |
| 06:18.39 | meekish | shark_: you were right, i just needed to let apt-get install mysql5 instead of mysql4 |
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| 06:27.28 | jetscreamer | the death of #debian |
| 06:27.31 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 06:28.30 | sid | jetscreamer: 584 is hardly the death of debian. |
| 06:28.51 | sid | jetscreamer: 584 clients in here is a ton; We have almost 6 people in here now; and 578 drones. |
| 06:28.54 | jetscreamer | -avg 200+/- |
| 06:28.56 | Vasistha | how's oftc? I only logged on there one time :P |
| 06:29.07 | jetscreamer | i've never and probably never will |
| 06:29.07 | sid | Same as here basically. |
| 06:29.20 | sid | Except 3% of the population |
| 06:29.27 | Vasistha | same as here, as in 500+? When I checked it out, there were 200-some |
| 06:29.28 | sid | The 10 biggest channels are debian channels |
| 06:29.28 | sid | heh |
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| 06:29.54 | sid | no, not same amount of people. Same enviroment. |
| 06:29.56 | insmod | anyone try http://n.nfshost.com/1.html ?--- i am stuck on 15 -- any clues :) |
| 06:29.59 | sid | some of the same people |
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| 06:31.20 | etrask | would it be a problem if I installed Debian 3.1r2 Etch but then configured Synaptic to point to all the stable packages? |
| 06:32.45 | meekish | insmod: here's a hint... use firefox and firebug :) |
| 06:34.17 | insmod | meekish: why ? doesn't work on mozilla ? |
| 06:34.54 | Vasistha | etrask: debian 3.1r2 is sarge |
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| 06:36.33 | jetscreamer | about the net install .iso's |
| 06:36.44 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 06:36.50 | etrask | Vasistha: synaptic points to etch/*something* repositories |
| 06:37.04 | insmod | meekish: ? |
| 06:37.06 | jetscreamer | that sounds like an OLD installer |
| 06:37.19 | jetscreamer | when sarge was testing |
| 06:37.48 | liable | etrask: that wont work |
| 06:38.08 | jetscreamer | that did use to work with woody installer though |
| 06:38.12 | jetscreamer | used |
| 06:40.06 | meekish | What can I do about this? http://pastebin.ca/85850 |
| 06:40.28 | meekish | It says that I don't have the needed dependencies, but dpkg -l shows that they are installed |
| 06:41.04 | insmod | meekish: diff version |
| 06:41.08 | insmod | meekish: why ? doesn't work on mozilla ? |
| 06:41.12 | Vasistha | meekish: fyi you don't need to sudo to dpkg -l |
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| 06:41.32 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 06:41.33 | dpkg | fix-unmet is probably run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
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| 06:43.01 | jetscreamer | the programs you think are fulfilling the dependencies aren't the correct version is what he meant |
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| 06:45.24 | meekish | don't they look like the correct versions from the pastebin? |
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| 06:46.11 | liable | etrask: if you need sarge, you prolly want to use the 2.6.15 sarge installer. |
| 06:46.30 | etrask | oi |
| 06:46.57 | etrask | i used the etch installer because previous versions couldn't use my network card [and i don't want to download full CD images] |
| 06:47.19 | etrask | is there a command to enter at the 3.1r2 net install prompt to get sarge? |
| 06:47.22 | liable | etrask: then you are kinda stuck with etch |
| 06:47.24 | meekish | insmod: i thought it was a diff kind of riddle... any browser should work just fine ;) |
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| 06:48.09 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 06:48.58 | jetscreamer | you can try to find the packages or just wait |
| 06:49.29 | etrask | liable: guess i'll get over it. i like the way GNOME looks on there anyway :P |
| 06:49.29 | meekish | i'm not sure what you mean... doesn't it look like i already have the packages i need? |
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| 06:49.48 | liable | etrask: heh |
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| 06:50.34 | liable | hrm, did they do the first freeze of etch yet? wasnt it due this month? |
| 06:50.57 | etrask | ... dunno |
| 06:51.03 | etrask | is etch the next version? |
| 06:51.08 | etrask | after sarge? |
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| 06:51.56 | liable | yes |
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| 06:52.21 | etrask | cool |
| 06:52.25 | liable | !wwer |
| 06:52.26 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00015.html |
| 06:53.12 | jetscreamer | !wwsr |
| 06:53.12 | dpkg | from memory, wwsr is It is released: http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606 |
| 06:53.22 | jetscreamer | !wwwr |
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| 06:59.58 | zorrolero | hrmm, debian.org is down :( |
| 07:00.49 | etrask | it is? i thought my network was borken :P |
| 07:01.11 | etrask | [dns has been acting up... but i have IRC go right to IP addresses =D ] |
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| 07:05.15 | azeem | zorrolero: gluck.debian.org is down, the rest should be still up |
| 07:05.21 | azeem | use www.uk.debian.org |
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| 07:07.31 | zorrolero | azeem: you're right, www.uk.debian.org is online |
| 07:07.57 | blame | Do I need to install drivers for Intel onboard video adapter? |
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| 07:08.34 | azeem | blame: they should get installed automatically |
| 07:08.54 | blame | alright |
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| 07:09.59 | blame | is there anyway to pinpoint this gnome sluggishness I'm currently under with gnome? |
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| 07:13.14 | ttl_work | can somebody help me with setting up an USB printer |
| 07:13.31 | ttl_work | it's a HP Laserjet 2200 |
| 07:13.46 | ttl_work | in installed it in cups and all |
| 07:14.21 | ttl_work | but which USB printer device should i select in CUPS ? |
| 07:14.24 | deworm | HI FAGS |
| 07:14.31 | deworm | YOUR SO RACIST |
| 07:14.35 | deworm | TTL_WORK |
| 07:14.39 | deworm | WHY YOU WHISPER ME SHIT FUCKER |
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| 07:14.47 | ttl_work | lol |
| 07:14.54 | deworm | YOU SAID I'M A THAILAND NIGGER |
| 07:14.54 | liable | azeem: ^^ |
| 07:14.58 | deworm | WHY |
| 07:15.06 | deworm | AND YOU SAID THE NAZIS GOT MY JEWISH FAMILY?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? |
| 07:15.08 | Dewi | I hate it then ttl_work does that. |
| 07:15.14 | deworm | I KNOW |
| 07:15.16 | Dewi | when |
| 07:15.16 | deworm | WHAT A FAGGOT |
| 07:15.19 | deworm | SOMEONE BAN HIS ASS |
| 07:15.22 | deworm | AND GET MYG0T |
| 07:15.24 | deworm | TO OWN HIM |
| 07:15.42 | liable | !ops deworm troll |
| 07:15.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: liable complains about: deworm troll |
| 07:15.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 07:16.00 | *** kick/#debian [deworm!n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] by azeem (you should know better) |
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| 07:16.29 | deworm | STOP WHISPERING ME ALEAST |
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| 07:18.36 | etrask | lols |
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| 07:18.43 | etrask | what the hell was that guy on about? |
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| 07:19.51 | ttl_work | I did not say anything to deworm |
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| 07:20.14 | vahid_ | hi |
| 07:20.19 | ttl_work | Dewi: I did'nt |
| 07:20.19 | Dewi | ttl_work: you should be ashamed. |
| 07:20.19 | ttl_work | lol |
| 07:20.20 | liable | tsk. tsk. :P |
| 07:20.27 | Dewi | :D |
| 07:20.37 | ttl_work | Dewi: for what? |
| 07:20.41 | ttl_work | hehehe |
| 07:20.46 | Dewi | ttl_work: um.... fascism :P |
| 07:20.52 | my007ms | hello all |
| 07:20.53 | etrask | OMG |
| 07:20.57 | my007ms | did u see this Online Book Fair has started (4 th July 06). |
| 07:21.08 | RvGaTe | goooodmorning! |
| 07:21.14 | ttl_work | Dewi: i did not say a word to deworm |
| 07:21.19 | ttl_work | :) |
| 07:21.32 | my007ms | http://worldebookfair.com/Technical_eBook_Colleciton.htm it's have much abut debian :) |
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| 07:22.49 | quad3datwork2 | my imagination or debian.org is down? |
| 07:23.02 | azeem | quad3datwork2: www.debian.org is down, use www.uk.debian.org |
| 07:23.08 | quad3datwork2 | ok, thannks |
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| 07:25.04 | SlayerXP | morning. how can I supress informational messages when installing a package? I need to automate the installation of a package that presents an information screen and a single "OK" button. I thought "-q -y" would override that, but it doesn't. |
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| 07:25.43 | azeem | SlayerXP: set debconf priority to `noninteractive' |
| 07:25.52 | liable | SlayerXP: debconf questions or stuff like conf files? |
| 07:25.54 | azeem | eh, frontend |
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| 07:26.21 | SlayerXP | liable: debconf, I assume. but I don't want to globally change that, just for automated installations. |
| 07:26.46 | SlayerXP | azeem: i considered that, but I'd still like that info to appear for normally installed packages. |
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| 07:27.04 | azeem | SlayerXP: then set it only temporarily |
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| 07:27.10 | azeem | DEBCONF_FRONTEND |
| 07:27.14 | azeem | it is I think |
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| 07:27.41 | SlayerXP | azeem: let's try that... |
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| 07:28.37 | Neovdr25 | Hello |
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| 07:29.23 | XTC | how to add user in one line ? |
| 07:30.17 | simonrvn | man adduser |
| 07:30.36 | XTC | hm... good idea ;0 |
| 07:30.41 | XTC | thx... |
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| 07:31.11 | Sambrista | Hi everybody. I installed debian by net using a boot floopy disk and now when i do apt-get update i get errors about gpg. I think that the problem is that i don |
| 07:31.27 | Neovdr25 | I have install apache2 and I add a some lines in the local_config.conf file in < Direcory/> and </Direcory > but I got </Directory> directive missing closing '>' |
| 07:31.42 | Sambrista | i don't have the key configured. Do you know of a place where i can find the keys for the repositories ? |
| 07:31.44 | sng | Sambrista: Read the topic. |
| 07:31.52 | SlayerXP | azeem: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=Noninteractive aptitude -q -y install dhcp3-server |
| 07:32.00 | SlayerXP | azeem: that works, thanks for the tip |
| 07:32.08 | SlayerXP | liable also |
| 07:32.11 | Neovdr25 | Anybody knows how to fix this syntax error? |
| 07:32.21 | azeem | cheers |
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| 07:32.56 | RvGaTe | azeem, you seem to be here allot... just of interests... what do you do? |
| 07:33.19 | sng | Hitman! |
| 07:33.19 | azeem | RvGaTe: in here? |
| 07:33.20 | simonrvn | Neovdr25: um, i hope that's not what you actually have in your conf |
| 07:33.56 | RvGaTe | azeem, well, everyone know what everyone is doing in here... idling and answering/asking debian questions... |
| 07:34.29 | azeem | right! |
| 07:34.40 | azeem | I'm at the university still IRL |
| 07:34.53 | ttl_work | how to find out which USB device to use in CUPS for my HP Laserjet 2200 ? |
| 07:35.03 | liable | ttl_work: lsusb? |
| 07:35.22 | simonrvn | the one your printer is attached to? ;) |
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| 07:35.35 | ttl_work | Bus 001 Device 008: ID 03f0:0217 Hewlett-Packard |
| 07:35.37 | Neovdr25 | It's between < Directory/> and </Directory > |
| 07:35.41 | ttl_work | liable: great |
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| 07:35.59 | ttl_work | liable: i didn't know there whas something like lsusb |
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| 07:36.17 | Sambrista | ttl_work: it exists also por pci devices (lspci) |
| 07:36.19 | liable | now you do :) |
| 07:36.26 | RvGaTe | azeem, so... you just a student... what about work ? |
| 07:36.30 | ttl_work | Sambrista: yeah i know |
| 07:36.51 | azeem | RvGaTe: I'm doing a PhD, so it's both |
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| 07:37.00 | simonrvn | Neovdr25: it should be <Directory /> and </Directory> if anything. the first one is for the root dir |
| 07:37.21 | RvGaTe | azeem, phd ? i've heard of that more often... but still dotn know what it is |
| 07:37.22 | simonrvn | read the excellent apache docs |
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| 07:37.38 | simonrvn | azeem: do you mind me asking in what? |
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| 07:39.04 | streuner | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phd#History_of_the_Ph.D. |
| 07:39.15 | azeem | simonrvn: theoretical chemistry |
| 07:39.46 | simonrvn | oh nice |
| 07:39.47 | Neovdr25 | I put it as <Directory /> </Directory> but I get the same: </> directive missing closing '>' |
| 07:40.14 | simonrvn | you have an extra opening <Directory /foo> line |
| 07:40.29 | simonrvn | or, you have a typo =) |
| 07:40.37 | ttl_work | still no luck with samba |
| 07:40.50 | ttl_work | "Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp7": No such device" |
| 07:41.18 | liable | ttl_work: are you using the browser gui? |
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| 07:41.21 | ttl_work | i tried usb device 8 and 9 (lp7 and lp8) |
| 07:41.30 | ttl_work | liable: yes |
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| 07:42.08 | ttl_work | but should there be no driver for /dev/usb/lpx |
| 07:42.13 | ttl_work | ? |
| 07:42.32 | Neovdr25 | Thats how I have it in the conf file. I open directory with <Directory /> and close it with </Directory> |
| 07:42.39 | ttl_work | in dmesg it finds the printer but no driver is loaded |
| 07:42.42 | liable | i thought you just used usb0 or whatever in the gui |
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| 07:43.10 | trabtr | Can anyone tell me the latest version of Debian? |
| 07:43.29 | etrask | 3.1 r1a, i think |
| 07:43.35 | p0t | hmm.. It seemmed that when I installed deb it asked if i wanted X and i selected it. But i did not specify a wm idk if that matters. startx doesnt work and i looked at the docs and it suggested that i could use xdm which also didnt work |
| 07:43.43 | etrask | !version |
| 07:43.44 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 07:43.48 | ttl_work | liable: the first usb printer i can select is 'usb printer #1' |
| 07:43.51 | etrask | hmm... was worth a try :P |
| 07:43.53 | liable | trabtr: latest stable is sarge/3.1 |
| 07:44.00 | ttl_work | liable: and that one does no work |
| 07:44.08 | trabtr | Thanks a bunch. |
| 07:44.10 | p0t | im not online with that box yet though. i gotta get madwifi drivers. what do i need to get X running right now? |
| 07:44.17 | ttl_work | "Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device" |
| 07:44.52 | trabtr | Anyone know when debian.org is getting back up..? |
| 07:45.07 | liable | p0t: apt-get install x-window-system-core <plus whatever wm> |
| 07:45.29 | p0t | liable, even if im not online? |
| 07:45.41 | p0t | how do i know which wm are available? |
| 07:45.42 | liable | p0t: if you have cd1, yes |
| 07:45.52 | p0t | ok |
| 07:46.12 | liable | p0t: cd1 has gnome and kde, dunno what others |
| 07:46.32 | p0t | ok ill search for it |
| 07:46.37 | p0t | i wanna try flux |
| 07:47.17 | Neovdr25 | Any other way to try it? |
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| 07:48.56 | liable | Neovdr25: paste your conf |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | # Tighten access to the file system. |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | <Directory /> |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.20 | Neovdr25 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:49.45 | liable | Neovdr25: doh, not in here! |
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| 07:49.51 | liable | !paste |
| 07:49.51 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 07:49.58 | liable | or flood |
| 07:50.04 | liable | #flood |
| 07:50.07 | Neovdr25 | ok |
| 07:50.15 | Neovdr25 | sorry about it |
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| 07:50.30 | ttl_work | when i turn on the printer i see the following in dmesg output |
| 07:50.31 | ttl_work | hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.4-1, assigned address 9 |
| 07:50.31 | ttl_work | usb.c: USB device 9 (vend/prod 0x3f0/0x217) is not claimed by any active driver |
| 07:50.53 | Neovdr25 | Please see it in http://pastebin.ca/85891 |
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| 07:53.41 | udos | is 'root' always supposed to be owner of CUPS printing jobs? |
| 07:53.52 | liable | Neovdr25: what happens when you comment that block? |
| 07:54.14 | Neovdr25 | You mean remove all the lines? |
| 07:54.17 | liable | ttl_work: doesnt look good.. |
| 07:54.22 | liable | Neovdr25: just comment them |
| 07:54.33 | Neovdr25 | comment all? |
| 07:54.57 | liable | Neovdr25: just wondering if its actually that block that is causing the problem.. |
| 07:56.19 | ttl_work | i think i need some kernel module |
| 07:56.39 | liable | ttl_work: you compiled the kernel? |
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| 07:57.25 | ttl_work | liable: no i didn't |
| 07:57.59 | ttl_work | liable: it's the debian 2.4.27-1-386 kernel |
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| 07:58.12 | floundering | I am failing to compile the mga-vid-source package, has anyone succeded? |
| 07:58.13 | eXiSt | i have debian sarge gateway and i use it for ipmasq gateway. my local network can go internet via it. i can connect it from outside.but gateway cant connect internet by itself. |
| 07:58.21 | eXiSt | i couldnt find the problem |
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| 07:58.36 | eXiSt | i checked if it is a dns problem. but it isnt |
| 07:58.38 | ttl_work | maybe i need 2.6 |
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| 07:59.51 | jonnylamb | hey. i just patched my 2.6.17 kernel to 2.6.18-rc1. it has fixed the problem that caused me to patch it in the first place, but now my kernel headers can't be found by programs. i try module-assistant and get "the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found". What am i doing wrong?! |
| 08:00.20 | azeem | jonnylamb: did you install the new kernel headers? |
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| 08:00.37 | ttl_work | or connect it to my parallel port |
| 08:00.58 | ttl_work | but i dont have a DB25 -> Centronics cable |
| 08:01.01 | ttl_work | lol |
| 08:01.11 | jonnylamb | azeem: as in the debian package ones? like kernel-headers-2.6.18-rc1 ? |
| 08:01.27 | p0t | liable, i messed up and i didnt put the wm at the end of the command |
| 08:01.39 | ttl_work | and i realy need to print |
| 08:01.43 | ttl_work | hehe |
| 08:01.44 | p0t | liable, how do i install it on its own? |
| 08:01.47 | azeem | jonnylamb: yes, probably |
| 08:02.38 | jonnylamb | well, no because this isn't a stock kernel and i'm not using make-kpkg atm... :$ |
| 08:02.56 | p0t | can anyone help me install a wm |
| 08:02.57 | ttl_work | +l |
| 08:02.59 | azeem | jonnylamb: you might not be able to use m-a then |
| 08:03.28 | jonnylamb | but before when using a self-compiled kernel, the symlinks were created to /usr/src/linux and m-a worked fine.. |
| 08:03.40 | azeem | dunno |
| 08:04.23 | liable | p0t: apt-get install fluxbox |
| 08:04.34 | ttl_work | printconf does not start |
| 08:04.40 | ttl_work | gives me an error |
| 08:04.58 | ttl_work | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x08176168 *** |
| 08:05.05 | ttl_work | ... |
| 08:05.59 | SlayerXP | it turns out I can't set the DEBIAN_FRONTEND env variable, so I'm looking at "apt-get -o frontend=noninteractive -q -y install dhcp3-server", there's no error but neither does the frontend get changed. |
| 08:06.16 | Neovdr25 | I have try to reload it as root and it worked |
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| 08:09.35 | p0t | liable it cant find the package |
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| 08:10.02 | liable | p0t: apt-cache search foo (prolly not on cd1) |
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| 08:19.08 | Ben`er | small question.... when i login as a user on the shell i cant do anything |
| 08:19.15 | Ben`er | its not responding to any commands |
| 08:19.29 | SlayerXP | how can I set debconf's frontend to be "noninteractive" for just one command without using the DEBIAN_FRONTEND environment variable? |
| 08:19.29 | SlayerXP | I was thinking "aptitude -o frontend=Noninteractive -q -y install dhcp3-server" but that doesn't work |
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| 08:29.00 | rshakin | eg |
| 08:30.48 | udos | how can I set CUPS that the person printing is the "job owner". SAMBA-domain printing requires adding "root" as a domain user, which IT won't do... |
| 08:31.17 | udos | sure |
| 08:31.26 | rshakin | hey ppl anyone know of any good blogging software ? |
| 08:31.30 | udos | that's who owns the cupsysd process |
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| 08:32.01 | dimir | Looks like more of a state than a question to me. |
| 08:32.10 | udos | but most queues are intelligent enough to know that the user owns his own job... |
| 08:32.11 | mrstocks | Hi there, how can i install mysql 5 without going to unstable and still be able to use apt-get update to update it? |
| 08:32.25 | vegiVamp | mrstocks: google for dotdeb |
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| 08:32.46 | linux86 | hello |
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| 08:33.44 | linux86 | are they bootsplash in the debian kernel? |
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| 08:34.23 | rshakin | linux86 you can use linux_logo |
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| 08:34.45 | rshakin | linux86 or do you mean while your booting the kernel ? |
| 08:36.19 | linux86 | yes when the system booting |
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| 08:38.23 | linux86 | to use bootsplash with debian kernel must I configure the kernel? and compile |
| 08:38.34 | liable | !splashy |
| 08:38.34 | dpkg | from memory, splashy is a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge all right. http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/ and backported pacakges for sarge are available here: http://layer-acht.org/splashy/ |
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| 08:39.47 | linux86 | ok |
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| 08:41.28 | ttl_work | do i need a 2.6 kernel for usb printing ? |
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| 08:44.47 | p0t | where does debian keep the kernel? |
| 08:45.12 | p0t | im trying to install madwifi .... make doesnt work |
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| 08:47.33 | larrikin | porkpie: /etc/networks/.. |
| 08:47.58 | larrikin | minus the 's' |
| 08:48.13 | porkpie | thanks |
| 08:48.17 | liable | p0t: you need kernel headers and build-essential, check he madwifi newbie-docs |
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| 08:48.47 | liable | p0t: shareutils also.. |
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| 08:49.21 | larrikin | porkpie: man 5 interfaces |
| 08:49.30 | appelza | Hi guys, how do I apply exim4_4.62-2.diff to exim4_4.62.orig.tar.gz properly? |
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| 08:50.41 | rshakin | hey how do i reconfigure my MTA... just like that script when i first installed debian |
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| 08:51.14 | jonnylamb | rshakin: dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> |
| 08:51.43 | rshakin | ohh ok... for some reason i thought it was debconfig |
| 08:51.47 | appelza | Hi guys, how do I apply exim4_4.62-2.diff to exim4_4.62.orig.tar.gz properly? |
| 08:51.52 | rshakin | thanx jonnylamb |
| 08:52.38 | larrikin | appelza: tar -zxvf exim4_4.62.orig.tar.gz ; cd exim4_4???? ; patch -p1 < ../exim4_4.62-2.diff |
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| 08:53.01 | appelza | Oh k, so nothing special needs to be done debian wise? |
| 08:53.58 | appelza | Excellent, worked. Thanks man. |
| 08:54.16 | larrikin | appelza: after you've applied the diff, rename the base dir to exim4_4.62-2 .. then inside the basedir you might want to use 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' or something along those lines |
| 08:54.39 | appelza | Ah, and I _need_ to rename the base dir for it to work? |
| 08:54.50 | jonnylamb | appelza: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debcreation.htm |
| 08:54.59 | appelza | Thanks |
| 08:55.06 | larrikin | appelza: you would need the debhelper package installed, and no doubt other ppl will be able to improve on any instructions I can come up with |
| 08:55.09 | Ragnaroek | hey |
| 08:55.10 | wils0n` | hey |
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| 08:55.32 | appelza | Sure, yeah I'm confortable with the rest after patching..just thought there was some special debian thing to do |
| 08:55.35 | appelza | Thanks again |
| 08:55.52 | larrikin | appelza: you don't need to rename the base dir.. just for saneness |
| 08:56.14 | porkpie | larrikin:would this be the syntax debian uses inet 192.168.0.66 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 08:57.13 | liable | porkpie: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 08:58.14 | letto | does hp have opensourced drivers? |
| 08:58.49 | larrikin | porkpie: auto eth0 \ iface eth0 inet static \ address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx \ netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx \ network xxx.xxx.xxx.0 \ broadcast xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx \ gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 08:58.50 | Zinkeldonk | test |
| 08:59.12 | larrikin | porkpie: some may be optional .. \ = <cr> |
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| 09:01.07 | Zinkeldonk | From what Johnnylamb had to say, building from source is easy if it's in the src repo already. What if it's not? |
| 09:01.21 | larrikin | when will ipv6 fully take over.... |
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| 09:03.56 | peterS | larrikin: possibly never |
| 09:05.02 | peterS | and why would you specify the network and broadcast addresses? the derived defaults will work in, I wager, over 99% of cases |
| 09:05.03 | larrikin | I was thinking more along the lines of 100 yrs.. :( |
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| 09:05.35 | larrikin | peterS: why I said, some may be optional |
| 09:05.46 | Zinkeldonk | I'd like to create a .deb from vmailmgr source. |
| 09:05.50 | peterS | larrikin: why bother to even mention them though? most people will not know their network address |
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| 09:05.59 | CAiRO | how can i change my local time in debian? |
| 09:06.11 | larrikin | peterS: guess I'm not perfect.. :( |
| 09:07.12 | larrikin | CAiRO: you want to alter the difference between your local time and GMT or you just want to set the time ? |
| 09:07.44 | CAiRO | larrikin: i want to alter the difference, currently the clock is set to my local time but i want to set it to GMT time |
| 09:08.34 | lord_rob | tzconfig ? |
| 09:09.01 | lord_rob | tzselect |
| 09:09.02 | larrikin | tzconfig .. does it also set the flag that says that hwclock is in GMT time? |
| 09:09.23 | p0t | liable, how do i get the kernel headers |
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| 09:10.23 | CAiRO | aha, thanks |
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| 09:10.49 | lord_rob | p0t: apt-cache search kernel headers |
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| 09:20.16 | Zinkeldonk | I have MANY servers that are all identical and I want to be able to make use of something like apt to manage configs on all these servers. Any suggestions on how I should go about this? |
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| 09:21.00 | lunitik | larrikin: yes |
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| 09:21.38 | lunitik | larrikin: tzconfig is what is ran during install to set all things related to time... |
| 09:22.17 | lunitik | (actually, dpkg-reconfigure tzconfig is what you'd see during install...) |
| 09:22.40 | lunitik | CAiRO: ^ |
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| 09:27.29 | mizer | hello, if i ahve xorg running on nvidia driver, do i need to install all the nvidia-glx package anyway ? |
| 09:27.55 | mizer | now i``m running on nvidia driver dorm nvidia website, but when i drag the windows etc i still get the cpu 100% usage |
| 09:28.10 | magnus | if it works dont do anything :) why fix something that is not broken? ;) |
| 09:28.19 | mizer | maybe some option for this driver is necessary to add 3d accelleration ? |
| 09:28.36 | magnus | run neverball or something to test if you have 3d acceleration |
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| 09:28.38 | magnus | or glxgears |
| 09:28.50 | mizer | what range of fps should i get on glx gears ? |
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| 09:29.28 | mizer | ups - "GLX exetnsion missing on display 0:0 |
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| 09:32.56 | dest_ | on glxgears, more than 2 000 fps |
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| 09:33.54 | dest_ | if you have between 200 and 500 fps with glxgears, it means you don't have 3D acceleration |
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| 09:34.08 | SlayerXP | 2000-5000 more like |
| 09:34.19 | dest_ | it depends on the graphic card |
| 09:34.24 | mizer | yes |
| 09:34.28 | mizer | i have above 200 |
| 09:34.39 | mizer | but i don`t know why glx won`t load |
| 09:34.40 | dest_ | so you don't have 3D acceleration |
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| 09:34.50 | mizer | this is from log files of xorg: |
| 09:36.47 | mizer | (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768" |
| 09:36.47 | mizer | (II) Loading extension NV-GLX |
| 09:36.47 | mizer | (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized |
| 09:36.47 | mizer | (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture |
| 09:36.48 | mizer | (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled |
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| 09:37.00 | mizer | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX |
| 09:37.04 | mizer | ups, sorry |
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| 09:37.34 | mizer | i don`t get it - foirst he says he loads glx, the he says that he don`t load glx |
| 09:37.48 | AV1611 | hello, boys. can anybody consult me of Matrox G400/450/550 x-window setup issues, please.... |
| 09:37.49 | dest_ | maybe you have to enable or disable something in your kernel. |
| 09:38.05 | dest_ | I had this problem with my ATI Radeon |
| 09:38.15 | mizer | is glx shipped with nvidia driver or is glx something totally apart from it and is just called by nvidia driver ? |
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| 09:38.28 | dest_ | I'm sorry AV1611, I'm not a specialist |
| 09:38.43 | dest_ | dunno |
| 09:38.48 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev && sh NVIDIA-blah.run --uninstall && less /var/log/nvidia-installer , note the problems, mv them to a bckup, then re-run the installer |
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| 09:39.02 | mizer | and the xorg says - NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized |
| 09:39.14 | mizer | and the next line is |
| 09:39.17 | mizer | Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture |
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| 09:39.24 | mizer | got no idea |
| 09:39.26 | jetscreamer | the installer log will tell you about files that have been altered, symlinks that arent... |
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| 09:39.52 | mizer | this is nvidia -vant, i know it`s old as hell but i have the 3d accelleration |
| 09:40.18 | jetscreamer | oh disable glcore and dri if they are enabled in xorg.onf |
| 09:40.53 | jetscreamer | .conf |
| 09:41.08 | mizer | ok, disabled it, going tro reset X server |
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| 09:42.38 | tparcina | debian install: i have tried to install debian 3.1 (2 CD) and i neaded to download so meny packets from internet. is it necesery to make that download? could I just install packets that are on CD? |
| 09:42.58 | Ronin | tparcina: all depends on what you select to install |
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| 09:43.06 | mizer | heh - nothing |
| 09:43.09 | tparcina | since now i have used fedora core 4 and i must say that i like that type of install weary much |
| 09:43.20 | jetscreamer | it was all for you not just that |
| 09:43.21 | mizer | glx is still not loading |
| 09:43.35 | mizer | hmmm |
| 09:43.35 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev && sh NVIDIA-blah.run --uninstall && less /var/log/nvidia-installer , note the problems, mv them to a bckup, then re-run the installer |
| 09:43.40 | tparcina | i have selected http and database |
| 09:44.07 | tparcina | Ronin: i have selected http and database |
| 09:44.09 | liable | tparcina: disconnect from the net and it will only use the cd as a source |
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| 09:44.31 | liable | tparcina: or comment the net sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 09:44.35 | mizer | i installed the driover fo xfree86, not for xorg - maybe that`s the problem |
| 09:44.45 | tparcina | liable: it won't try to auto update after I plug network? |
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| 09:44.58 | dest_ | mizer: try xorg |
| 09:44.58 | Ronin | tparcina: only if you tell it to |
| 09:45.07 | Ronin | tparcina: although im curious why you dont want it to update |
| 09:45.35 | jetscreamer | oh |
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| 09:46.34 | tparcina | Ronin: i'm making several instalations. and when i'm sure that one works as it should, i would like all the rest to be the same - does it makes sence? |
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| 09:46.43 | jetscreamer | you said <mizer> now i``m running on nvidia driver dorm nvidia website, |
| 09:46.46 | MatBoy | Does someone know here if it's possible to readout a whole DNS-server ? |
| 09:47.24 | liable | tparcina: as it is sarge, it will only update the security patches |
| 09:48.46 | mizer | yeah, sorry :D |
| 09:49.13 | mizer | i have now a working xorg setup with nvidia driver loading and working but i have no 3d accelleration - that`s my porblem |
| 09:50.02 | tparcina | liable: if there is new version of some program, it won't be upgraded? |
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| 09:50.34 | Ronin | tparcina: sarge only gets security updates tparcina |
| 09:50.39 | liable | tparcina: sarge is stable, there arent any newer versions, only security updates |
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| 09:52.24 | tparcina | any good link about the things you are toliking about? I'm new to debian, and i need to make it clear in my head |
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| 09:52.57 | Ronin | tparcina: what part has you confused? |
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| 09:54.05 | Mnabil | hello guys ,iptables can block arp packets or not |
| 09:54.07 | Mnabil | ?! |
| 09:54.13 | Edward_TLS | how can I make grub rescan for avalible kernels... ? |
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| 09:55.07 | tparcina | Ronin, i have look at debian.org, what does r2 means? |
| 09:55.26 | mizer | arp ?? |
| 09:55.30 | mizer | i think not |
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| 09:55.41 | Ronin | tparcina: iirc release 2 |
| 09:55.41 | vick | Which part during the installation would i make it go for 'sid' ? (in etch net installer) |
| 09:55.45 | mizer | apr is a completelly different levels of osi model then iptables is working on |
| 09:56.03 | mizer | arp is lower the protocols |
| 09:56.11 | mizer | and iptables is working on protocols |
| 09:56.53 | vick | Hello. |
| 09:57.05 | tparcina | does relese 2 have diferent versions of packages then Debian 3.1 r1 head? |
| 09:57.09 | vick | During etch net installer, how do i make it go for sid instead ("Debian unstable") ? |
| 09:57.26 | tparcina | and how to find out what version I have (r1 or r2)? |
| 09:57.32 | streuner | tparcina: security fixes |
| 09:57.33 | ktwilight | vick, just change the /etc/apt/sources.list to sid |
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| 09:57.53 | streuner | tparcina: usually apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is enough... |
| 09:57.58 | vick | ktwilight: How do i do that in the middle of the installation ? |
| 09:57.59 | Ronin | vick: but remember its called unstable for a reason |
| 09:58.23 | vick | Ronin: yep, heh. |
| 09:58.34 | ktwilight | vick, you can't do it in the middle of the installation, i think. |
| 09:58.36 | vick | I am in 'choose a mirror of the debian archive' now |
| 09:58.45 | streuner | tparcina: (if you have security.debian.org in your sources.list) |
| 09:58.46 | vick | Can i choose nothing to install ? |
| 09:59.02 | tparcina | steuner, so between r1 and r2 there is no diference in packages versions, only in security fixes? |
| 09:59.07 | ktwilight | vick, you can always just install the base. then edit the sources.list and go sid from there |
| 09:59.21 | streuner | tparcina: basically yes |
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| 09:59.49 | tparcina | streuner, how to check do i have r1 or r2? |
| 09:59.49 | vick | ktwilight: The base is automaticly installed if i choose nothing from the 'web server' and these stuff, right ? |
| 10:00.02 | ktwilight | yes vick |
| 10:00.04 | streuner | tparcina: installed or the iso itself? |
| 10:00.15 | tparcina | both |
| 10:00.23 | streuner | good question |
| 10:00.27 | appelza | which package will give me : 'db.h' on etch? |
| 10:00.36 | Ronin | well the iso should say and also it will certainly say when you clicked to dl it |
| 10:00.48 | streuner | i would say check the date of the iso and compare it with the r2 date |
| 10:01.40 | tparcina | Ronin, i have make download few weaks ago and now i have time to test debian... |
| 10:02.57 | streuner | tparcina: as we told you before, its not important, because you update the packages anyway... |
| 10:02.58 | tparcina | ok, and how to check on installed system is it r1 or r2? does it even make sense to check that - will that provide any information's that I'll need while using Debian? |
| 10:03.10 | streuner | no |
| 10:03.17 | streuner | see above |
| 10:03.47 | tparcina | ok, what is the diference between update and upgrade (apt-get)? |
| 10:04.05 | streuner | read man apt-get |
| 10:04.17 | liable | appelza: /msg dpkg search |
| 10:04.19 | tparcina | ok, fair enough |
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| 10:04.43 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:05.14 | streuner | update is used to resynchronize the package index files from their sources. The indexes of available packages are fetched from the location(s) specified in /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 10:05.37 | streuner | tparcina: you will need to read man apt-get anyway, if you want fun with debian |
| 10:05.48 | appelza | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:06.18 | mizer | ok, i reinstalled the driver, glx is loading now |
| 10:06.21 | tparcina | streuner, i will read it |
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| 10:06.32 | mizer | but still no hw accelleration |
| 10:06.38 | incorrect | how can you convert a .diff into a .dpatch? |
| 10:06.53 | streuner | tparcina: also dpkg |
| 10:07.00 | mizer | i have nvidia module loaded and agpart |
| 10:07.06 | incorrect | !dpatch |
| 10:07.39 | streuner | tparcina: apt-get manage to get packages for your system and is responsible to get those packages for your system, dpkg manipulate and install it on your system. |
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| 10:08.11 | liable | tparcina: the debian reference would be a great place for you to start.. |
| 10:08.15 | liable | !reference |
| 10:08.16 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 10:08.19 | liable | tparcina: ^^ |
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| 10:11.22 | tparcina | i need your sugestion. i was using fedora core 4 for instalation of Asterisk (VoIP PBX, gateway...). now I'm planing to use Debian (stabel versions). since now i didn't have huge problems with fedora. the reasion i'm switching from Fedora is because of their releas cycle, which is too often. can you tell me will debian be good distribution for me? |
| 10:11.37 | Stork | i just bought a creative audigy SE sound card.. how do i get it to work on debian? |
| 10:11.43 | Maulkin | tparcina: yes :) |
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| 10:12.16 | tparcina | yes, thank you. i'll first read reference then continue with apt-get and dpkg |
| 10:12.22 | streuner | tparcina: debian have very *HARD* ways to call something stable |
| 10:12.52 | streuner | tparcina: but that doesn't mean, you could alway use the latest software which is avaiable |
| 10:12.57 | tparcina | can i compare dpkg with rpm and apt-yet with yum? are they used for same things? |
| 10:13.03 | streuner | s/could/couldn't/ |
| 10:13.43 | lunitik | tparcina: yes, dpkg and rpm do basically the same thing, simularly apt-get and yum... |
| 10:13.53 | tparcina | streuner: i don+t understand this - debian have very *HARD* ways to call something stable |
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| 10:14.30 | tparcina | linitik, thank you |
| 10:14.58 | thess_man | how does one register? |
| 10:15.09 | streuner | thess_man: /msg dpkg nickserv |
| 10:15.10 | lunitik | thess_man: /msg nickserv help |
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| 10:15.19 | streuner | thess_man: /msg nickserv help, of course :-) |
| 10:15.38 | thess_man | of course :) thanks |
| 10:16.10 | tparcina | from woody to sarge, how much time has it pass? what is release cycle of debian? when can I expect anothere release? |
| 10:16.32 | lord_rob | tparcina: etch should be released at the end of the year |
| 10:16.36 | lunitik | tparcina: woody to sarge was about 3 years... sarge to etch will be about 2 years |
| 10:16.37 | streuner | the plan is to release testing (etch) in dez. this year |
| 10:17.29 | power1 | Hey all, how do i reconfigure proftpd to change it from starting from inetd to a normall daemon that is allways running? |
| 10:17.50 | thess_man | is anyone familiar with NAT? I've got two nics in a machine (one card goes to the switch the other via crossover connects to my router 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 respectively) i've been trying to make NAT foward connections it recieves from 192.168.1.1 (the interface connected to the router) to 192.168.0.10 but nothing seems to happen |
| 10:17.52 | tparcina | streuner: what did you mean by this - debian have very *HARD* ways to call something stable |
| 10:17.59 | lunitik | tparcina: in the RPM community though, Debian Stable can be considered like CentOS or similar, whereas Fedora etc and be compared to Etch or even Sid based on reliability |
| 10:18.01 | streuner | you shouldn't run proftpd if you haven't a clue |
| 10:18.22 | orge | how do you adjust your time with ntdate again |
| 10:18.23 | lucia | i cannot connect http://debian.org... what problem? |
| 10:18.25 | streuner | well, first prior for releases is in debian stability |
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| 10:18.36 | streuner | lucia: server is actually down |
| 10:18.49 | Fox | power1: dpkg-reconfigure proftpd |
| 10:18.56 | streuner | it will take some time to fix it |
| 10:19.21 | lucia | streuner, i see. thanks a lot :) |
| 10:19.33 | lunitik | streuner: what happened? just maintenance stuff? |
| 10:19.43 | thess_man | in my conf file i must specify an interface, which one do i specify, the interface which connects to the router or the one going to my lan? I've read the NAT documentation but it's left me even more puzzled... |
| 10:19.51 | power1 | Fox, thanks |
| 10:20.11 | Fox | yaw power1 |
| 10:20.15 | lord_rob | www.debian.org works though |
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| 10:20.26 | Fox | thess_man: what conf file ? |
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| 10:21.08 | thess_man | fox, i've made a ee /etc/nat.conf file which i've included in /etc/rc.conf to load on startup |
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| 10:21.44 | thess_man | fox, a conf file for nat |
| 10:21.45 | Fox | thess_man: I have no /etc/rc.conf on my sarge |
| 10:21.55 | Fox | are you sure you're using debian ? |
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| 10:22.34 | power1 | Fox, can I not use the configuration file that was working with inet.d proftpd with the standalone version , it says cannot start with current config file, but idf i change it back to inet.d it starts..any ideas? |
| 10:22.54 | thess_man | no, fbsd, i posted on #freebsd but i get "##please_register Cannot send to channel" i haven't got time to figure how to post there |
| 10:24.34 | liable | !tell thess_man about nickserv |
| 10:24.49 | liable | it takes two minutes.. |
| 10:24.55 | tparcina | any sugestion, how should I install system for using asterisk? i need http, mssql and something that is called development tools in Fedora Core 4. any good instructions or tutorial that you use? i have found a lots of instructions on Internet, but i would like something that you are using and you can recomend |
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| 10:25.29 | fulhack | tion which needs a library called libdnet. I've installed libdnet however the application I'm compiling doesn't find it when I run ./configure. Where does it look, and how can I see which filename it wants libdnet to have? |
| 10:25.39 | fulhack | eek, bad paste there. |
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| 10:25.56 | fulhack | Hello, I'm trying to compile an application which needs a library called libdnet. I've installed libdnet however the application I'm compiling doesn't find it when I run ./configure. Where does it look, and how can I see which filename it wants libdnet to have? |
| 10:26.39 | W1rehead | install libdnet-dev ? |
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| 10:26.55 | streuner | !info libdnet-dev |
| 10:27.01 | dpkg | libdnet-dev: (DECnet development libraries & Headers), section libdevel, is extra. Version: 2.37.1 (sid), Packaged size: 258 kB, Installed size: 612 kB |
| 10:27.09 | streuner | fulhack: does the app have a name? |
| 10:27.27 | fulhack | W1rehead, I have installed it via apt and also via source :\ |
| 10:27.40 | fulhack | streuner, I believe its called firewalk |
| 10:28.25 | W1rehead | fulhack: Can you change the configure script? maybe the path is wrong for libdnet |
| 10:28.32 | streuner | fulhack: basically run './configure --help' |
| 10:28.38 | fulhack | ah, cheers |
| 10:28.46 | streuner | fulhack: and look for options to give the path |
| 10:29.16 | streuner | fulhack: dpkg -L libdnet-dev will show you where debian installed the headers and stuff |
| 10:29.45 | fulhack | That's handy! never seen that before. |
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| 10:30.39 | adamt | hi! which package does "glxinfo" belong to? |
| 10:31.01 | liable | adamt: mesa-utils iirc |
| 10:31.08 | liable | adamt: /msg dpkg search |
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| 10:31.47 | adamt | liable: thank you. |
| 10:32.03 | b_52Free | soemone can take a look ; to locales related problem http://paste.debian.net/8907 |
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| 10:35.44 | TARZEAU | does the latest/beta installers of debian support 8086:109a: 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller ? |
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| 10:36.26 | blondie | Spork! |
| 10:36.33 | Stork | :\ |
| 10:36.38 | blondie | :D |
| 10:36.59 | freeone3000 | How would I figure out which of my $PATH componenets is insecure? pgsql is complaining about it. |
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| 10:39.44 | streuner | TARZEAU: sounds like a question for #debian-boot |
| 10:40.08 | streuner | TARZEAU: (keep in mind - they are at OFTC...) |
| 10:40.12 | MatBoy | Guys, why does nobody believe that more than 2 screens as one desktop with Xorg can give a serious higher load on your system ? :( |
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| 10:40.55 | power1 | what is the reccomended ftp server for debian? |
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| 10:42.44 | streuner | none, ftp is evil |
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| 10:43.16 | power1 | How do I force a kill on a pid that is using 100% cpu , I have tried klill and kill all, but the process still continues. |
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| 10:43.28 | W1rehead | kill -9 pid |
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| 10:44.33 | power1 | W1rehead, thanks |
| 10:44.41 | jkrow | how can I check to see if APM or ACPI is enabled or configured? |
| 10:44.46 | W1rehead | no problem power1 |
| 10:44.59 | fulhack | Ok, I've looked like crazy, there's no reference to libdnet in the ./configure --help text (I even grep'ed it). I Checked inside the actual script and there I find references to it but I'm not sure what to change. What's next? :P |
| 10:45.09 | heycam | jkrow, if acpi is configured then you'll probably have a /proc/acpi directory |
| 10:45.29 | jkrow | heycam - yep I do |
| 10:46.06 | heycam | problem solved :) |
| 10:46.13 | jkrow | I installed batt stats with apt. I seem to only hav egot one extra app in my menu called battery charge graph |
| 10:46.27 | jkrow | when I try to load it hangs though.... |
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| 10:46.38 | heycam | hmm, those sort of things i wouldn't know about though, sorry |
| 10:46.56 | jkrow | anyone... need this working on my laptop |
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| 10:47.09 | jkrow | just want to see battery status |
| 10:47.35 | heycam | actually, if you type "acpi" at the command line, does it tell you the battery charge percentage? |
| 10:47.58 | jkrow | command not found |
| 10:48.00 | heycam | oh |
| 10:48.04 | heycam | maybe /sbin or somewhere |
| 10:48.09 | jkrow | nope |
| 10:48.15 | jkrow | tried sudo |
| 10:49.21 | liable | is acpid installed?? |
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| 10:51.31 | jkrow | liable how do I check this? |
| 10:51.31 | tirkal | hi. I'm logging through SSH to a remote Debian Sarge box. When I start the lighttpd server in background mode, I can't logout from the SSH session. any troubleshooting ideas? |
| 10:52.01 | fluxdude | I've got a script using zip which is returning wich exit status 3072 a lot. I can't believe google hasn't turned anything up about this, anybody know what this is or how to find out? |
| 10:52.28 | tirkal | Lighttpd is starting some fastcgi processes, and it seems the problem is that those processes don't release my pty |
| 10:53.06 | liable | jkrow: dpkg -l acpid |
| 10:53.39 | magnus | Does anyone know how to get flash working in debian AMD64? |
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| 10:55.35 | b_52Free | soemone can take a look ; to locales related problem http://paste.debian.net/8907 |
| 10:56.29 | streuner | magnus: /msg dpkg amd64 |
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| 11:02.06 | magnus | thanks |
| 11:03.06 | jkrow | liable - no packages found matching |
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| 11:04.53 | gentooguy | hello? |
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| 11:05.58 | Stork | i'm running a 64-bit system.. how can i get alsa-source to compile into 32-bit? |
| 11:06.09 | freeone3000 | Where are my startup scripts? |
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| 11:11.24 | jkrow | whats the difference between a framebuffer and a graphics card? |
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| 11:12.31 | jkrow | liable: thats working now, cheers |
| 11:12.43 | Edward_TLS | if I don't have a initrd kernel I can't loud my sata driver at boot time right.. ? |
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| 11:14.36 | peterS | Edward_TLS: there's nothing about sata that requires an "initrd kernel". if you build all the necessary drivers in, you can boot it. if you have some of them as modules, you'll need an initrd. same as a kernel for use with IDE or SCSI drives |
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| 11:17.48 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:17.48 | dpkg | qotd19 is, like, <Overfiend> "PHP 5! Now with Zend-enhanced multicrashing! Reserve your copy today!" |
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| 11:22.55 | jbrimble | What's the search command for apt-get? |
| 11:23.01 | jbrimble | To find the correct package name |
| 11:23.09 | lakez-away | apt-cache search <blah> |
| 11:23.22 | jbrimble | thanks lakez |
| 11:23.44 | lakez-away | http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/refcard-en-a4.pdf |
| 11:23.49 | lakez-away | jbrimble: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/refcard-en-a4.pdf |
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| 11:24.13 | jkrow | what app is there available for monitoring stocks? |
| 11:24.56 | jbrimble | One more question - What VNC programs do you guys recommend? |
| 11:25.30 | Fox | lakez-away: people.debian.org is down at the moment :) |
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| 11:26.47 | lakez-away | tight |
| 11:26.52 | lakez-away | that's a good ref card |
| 11:27.21 | jbrimble | the site seems to be down for me also |
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| 11:27.59 | Eclipser | should I use nfs-[user|kernel]-server? |
| 11:28.02 | jkrow | how can I set an enviroment variable for my proxy through an xterm so that when I launch an app then through xterm it uses that proxy |
| 11:28.07 | Fox | jbrimble: it's down for everyone |
| 11:28.08 | Eclipser | +which |
| 11:28.44 | RvGaTe | anyone knows what depleated means? |
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| 11:29.01 | Fox | jkrow: edit your .(bash|zsh|whatever)rc to export the variable |
| 11:29.02 | jbrimble | Is there a way that I can get my screen resolution to go higher than 800x600? |
| 11:29.27 | ktwilight | modify your xserver's configuration jbrimble |
| 11:29.33 | Fox | RvGaTe: none left ? |
| 11:29.37 | mizer | nvidai is killing me, why it won`t turn on the 3d accelleration ? |
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| 11:29.41 | mizer | the log shows no errors |
| 11:29.42 | ktwilight | RvGaTe, depleted, like removed? gone? something like that |
| 11:29.42 | jkrow | Fox: do you know the command |
| 11:29.53 | ktwilight | or deprecated... |
| 11:29.58 | jbrimble | i have no idea how to do that |
| 11:30.08 | Fox | jkrow: to edit the file or to set a proxy ? |
| 11:30.12 | ktwilight | jbrimble, are you running on xfree86 or xorg? |
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| 11:30.25 | ktwilight | mizer, which module are you using? |
| 11:30.27 | jbrimble | uhh, xfree86 i'd assume. |
| 11:30.29 | jkrow | just what I need to put into the file |
| 11:30.35 | jbrimble | I didn't have the option to choose |
| 11:30.48 | mizer | i`m using nvidia module from nvidia website |
| 11:31.05 | Fox | jkrow: no I don't, usually it depends on the app you're trying to force through the proxy |
| 11:31.24 | mizer | i assume it should have anything working - it` loading ok and working (EERYTIME I START X I HAVE THE NVIDIA SPLASH SCREEN ) |
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| 11:31.34 | yang | Is there a software, that enables musical reading from DDS tapes on a DDS streamer, DDS tapes were recorded on DAT. |
| 11:31.35 | RvGaTe | fox, ktwilight, its in the log of an router... depleated package... |
| 11:31.47 | RvGaTe | no idea what it means tho |
| 11:31.48 | mizer | but glxgears gives me only about 200 fps |
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| 11:31.55 | ktwilight | i've no idea then jbrimble :( try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, maybe |
| 11:32.37 | ktwilight | no idea either RvGaTe :/ sounds like a dropped packet? i dunno |
| 11:32.47 | mizer | and in xorg.log i have glx loaded ok, i remove dri and glcore form it |
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| 11:33.17 | mizer | do i need some specific option for that driver to start 3d accelleration ? |
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| 11:34.06 | jbrimble | thanks |
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| 11:35.25 | jbalcomb | I need access to the the unstable/non-free repositories. Do I just change the "... stable main" to "... unstable main" in my sources.list? |
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| 11:42.44 | appelza | what should I apt get for lib pam? libpam0 ? |
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| 11:43.46 | Stork | here's a question for you |
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| 11:44.05 | Stork | if i install an i386 alsa-oss, will my 32-bit programs be able to use it? |
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| 11:44.19 | Stork | i already have 64-bit alsa-oss |
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| 11:45.49 | heycam | Hi everyone. My laptop died recently, so I've taken the disk out and I'd like to boot from it connected via USB on another machine. I edited my /etc/fstab appropriately, but I think I need to somehow get the usb modules loaded before the root partition is mounted. Is there some easy debian way to do this? |
| 11:47.29 | heycam | Perhaps a simple way to get an initrd that loads the right modules? |
| 11:51.42 | Stork | how can i tell if crontab is working fine? |
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| 11:52.00 | Stork | root@server [/etc]# ps aux | grep 'cron' |
| 11:52.00 | Stork | root 20021 0.0 0.1 4480 1120 ? Ss Jul11 0:00 crond |
| 11:52.08 | Stork | does that mean it's running? |
| 11:52.11 | Fox | heycam: why do you want to BOOT on it ? can't you boot with a liveCD and then mount it to access the data ? |
| 11:52.17 | Stork | wait, i just realised that it's not a debian question ;) |
| 11:52.29 | Fox | Stork: go to hell then ! :) |
| 11:52.46 | Stork | :) |
| 11:52.46 | heycam | Fox, because i want my environment |
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| 11:52.53 | heycam | i mean, it should be possible, so... |
| 11:52.55 | heycam | i'd rather it :) |
| 11:53.09 | pawle | heycam: chroot |
| 11:53.14 | Stork | if i install an i386 alsa-oss, will my 32-bit programs be able to use it? i already have a 64-bit alsa-oss but i'm fairly sure quake4 doesn't like it |
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| 11:54.09 | heycam | pawle, how can i get all my things running properly then if i'm using chroot. can i exec /sbin/init after running chroot? |
| 11:54.20 | heycam | or maybe that won't work, coz init will expect to be process 1... |
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| 11:54.36 | Edward_TLS | peterS, tnx for the kernel info a few minites ago.... I'm creating a new xen kernel with the propper sata modules built-in |
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| 11:56.55 | Tropican8 | Hey all, I bought a new computer and attempted to partition the hard drive. I was unable to create a linux swap after a ext2 in qtparted from a livecd, any particular reason? A limitation I'm not aware about? This is a big hard drive, bigger than any I've done this on. |
| 11:57.01 | Stork | anyone?? |
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| 11:57.44 | asg | Stork: have you asked the #debian-amd64 folks? |
| 11:58.05 | Stork | hmm |
| 11:58.06 | Stork | good plan |
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| 11:59.36 | J_nx | Strange problem... when i login as a user with valid shell (bash) i cant do anything.. every command is accepted but nothing happens |
| 11:59.52 | J_nx | do i login and take ksh as shell its working |
| 12:00.04 | J_nx | ldap backend for users btw. |
| 12:01.06 | J_nx | and yes. unix account are working when ldap is offline |
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| 12:06.37 | MatBoy | someone already using xgl ? |
| 12:08.15 | liable | probably |
| 12:09.06 | Tropican8 | some people claim the ubuntu builds work from compiz.net. Others have been using alien to install the SuSE version. |
| 12:09.30 | liable | could always build the cvs too.. |
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| 12:10.04 | Tropican8 | yes but two plugins in cvs conflict and there are several patches I think |
| 12:10.20 | jbrimble | I've set up an Apache/MySQL server for my web software. I'd like a way to upload my files remotely - is FTP the way to go, or is there another method I should use?' |
| 12:10.25 | heycam | booting from the debian-installer cd, mounting my usb drive's partition, chrooting there and then running /etc/init.d/rcS didn't work so well :( |
| 12:11.42 | liable | jbrimble: scp? |
| 12:11.56 | jbrimble | !scp |
| 12:11.57 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, scp is Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. ssh + cpio. EXAMPLE: scp *.mp3 me@myotherbox:/var/tmp |
| 12:11.58 | liable | rsync |
| 12:12.45 | jbrimble | What's the most common of these two? |
| 12:12.53 | jbrimble | and secure, if possible. |
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| 12:13.00 | liable | scp, but rsync is very habdy also |
| 12:13.14 | liable | handy.. both use ssh |
| 12:13.27 | liable | unless you use the rsync protocol |
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| 12:14.25 | jbrimble | Thanks :) I'm looking into these options |
| 12:14.36 | evilgeek | rsync solves a different problem. |
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| 12:16.41 | jbalcomb | rsync is great for remotely syncronizing files and scp is great for securely copying files. |
| 12:17.47 | evilgeek | something like that, yeah. |
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| 12:18.03 | jbalcomb | if you set up your ssh keys and keep a local copy of the exact site rsync would be swell because it can know very well to only sync files that have changes |
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| 12:18.25 | jbalcomb | the ssh keys help automate the process by saving you a password prompt |
| 12:19.05 | jbalcomb | evilgeek: have you been in this channel for like 7 or 8 years? |
| 12:19.07 | jbrimble | ah, i see |
| 12:19.27 | Hotwired | is parted supposed to make a lost+found directory in a new partition + file system when it makes one? |
| 12:20.42 | W1rehead | in case of ext3: yes |
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| 12:21.11 | Hotwired | well i told it to make ext2 because it told me it couldn't make ext3 |
| 12:21.28 | liable | err, you still need a passphrase for keys |
| 12:21.39 | liable | unless you are crazy and make it empty |
| 12:21.40 | Hotwired | i dont think its worked correctly |
| 12:21.56 | Hotwired | i think i'll just use fdisk |
| 12:22.05 | W1rehead | Hotwired: why don't you do it manually |
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| 12:22.18 | W1rehead | mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdXX |
| 12:22.19 | liable | Hotwired: just make space and use fdisk/cfdisk |
| 12:22.31 | jbalcomb | liable: well, whats the point of having a ssh key if you can't enjoy automated scripting? |
| 12:22.48 | jbrimble | regarding Rsync, there isn't a windows version is there? |
| 12:22.49 | liable | jbalcomb: security? |
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| 12:23.01 | Hotwired | thats what i'm going to do. thanks guys :) |
| 12:23.06 | Sverre^ | investigating |
| 12:23.16 | liable | jbrimble: theres winscp thats quite nifty |
| 12:23.29 | jbrimble | Ah, excellent |
| 12:23.30 | jbrimble | I just found that |
| 12:23.46 | liable | i even got my sister uploading files to my server with it! |
| 12:23.49 | yaarg | there's a windows version of unison |
| 12:24.07 | jbalcomb | liable: oh, yeah, I suppose. Maybe I can put in a P.O. for a monkey to manually complete all our automated tasks so we can have that extra molecule of security. ;) |
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| 12:24.56 | NetBandit | hi there |
| 12:25.08 | NetBandit | What is the best way to backup debian box directly to ftp server? |
| 12:25.09 | jbalcomb | jbrimble: winscp is totally awesome and as best I can tell defeats the need for ftp/sftp all together. |
| 12:25.31 | cafuego | NetBandit: Any chance you can use rsync? |
| 12:25.37 | jbalcomb | `tar -zcfv foo.tgz /` |
| 12:25.42 | yaarg | shame it's a total hack |
| 12:26.32 | jbrimble | bbs guys, rebooting. |
| 12:26.33 | NetBandit | cafuego: I rather not use r tools |
| 12:26.49 | liable | huh? |
| 12:26.51 | jbalcomb | NetBandit: how come? |
| 12:27.01 | cafuego | NetBandit: r tools? |
| 12:27.07 | jbalcomb | that 'r' stands for 'righteous' dude |
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| 12:27.30 | asg | cafuego: he's confused about rlogin, rexec, rcp |
| 12:27.37 | cafuego | asg: ah |
| 12:27.45 | jbalcomb | R.S.Y.N.C: Really Super Yet Nice Command |
| 12:27.49 | cafuego | NetBandit: rsync is not like rcp, rlogin. |
| 12:27.50 | NetBandit | cafuego: because security |
| 12:28.02 | cafuego | NetBandit: It copies only changed files and can run over ssh just fine. |
| 12:28.06 | asg | NetBandit: rsync can use ssh as a transport |
| 12:28.07 | stew | NetBandit: by default, on debian, rsync uses ssh as the transport |
| 12:28.08 | liable | rsync *is* secure |
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| 12:28.30 | asg | NetBandit: besides, backing up to an ftp server like your original idea isn't secure. |
| 12:28.33 | jbalcomb | rcp == scp; rsync != ssync; |
| 12:28.57 | cafuego | Yes! The iso mirror lives! |
| 12:29.01 | NetBandit | cafuego: I was trying to send it to a windows ftp box |
| 12:29.08 | asg | that's even worse |
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| 12:29.21 | liable | heh, now *that* sounds secure! :P |
| 12:29.40 | cafuego | NetBandit: Try 'ftpbackup', but don't worry about security. |
| 12:29.56 | NetBandit | aha |
| 12:29.57 | NetBandit | Is there a way to use rsync to a windows box? |
| 12:30.01 | jbalcomb | NetBandit: i don't even understand why you have a question. FTP is file transfer protocol.. its for transfering files.. so just transfer all your debian boxes files... |
| 12:30.07 | magyar | logrotate is not rotating any logs, if i run logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf the /var/log/syslog file doesnt rotate |
| 12:30.09 | cafuego | NetBandit: Do you control the windows box at all? |
| 12:30.26 | cafuego | jbalcomb: I think the idea is to have it run unattended. |
| 12:30.29 | NetBandit | cafuego: yes |
| 12:31.03 | jbalcomb | WARNING: not comiserate with question !! "What is the best way to backup debian box directly to ftp server?" |
| 12:31.12 | cafuego | NetBandit: Check cygwin. http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php |
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| 12:31.31 | NetBandit | cafuego: okay, thank you ;) |
| 12:32.00 | cafuego | NetBandit: if you follow the howto, make sure you install run the ssh server on windows. |
| 12:32.14 | jbalcomb | NetBandit: ITMT, tar + expect + ncftp == automated debian box backup via ftp |
| 12:32.25 | NetBandit | cafuego: So if I put up another debian box with a lot of disk space, I can use rsync to backup to it easily? |
| 12:32.57 | cafuego | NetBandit: That's exactly what I do every day. |
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| 12:33.14 | NetBandit | okay, thanks |
| 12:33.16 | jbalcomb | cafuego: you use the incrementals? |
| 12:33.22 | cafuego | NetBandit: There are also packages that will do nice incremental backups for you, so you get snapshots. |
| 12:33.31 | jkrow3 | hi, in /etc/enviroment i have added http_proxy and it works fine but but it only works for port 80. I could also add ftp etc if I wanted but is there a variable for port wide |
| 12:33.35 | cafuego | jbalcomb: Not at this stage, no. |
| 12:33.42 | NetBandit | but Is there ways to do incrementals with rsync? |
| 12:33.45 | elements | Is it possible to set DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive in any other way than env variable? |
| 12:33.45 | jbalcomb | cafuego: what is this package of which you speak? |
| 12:33.45 | jkrow3 | like ALL_PROXY or something? |
| 12:33.50 | jbalcomb | NetBandit yes |
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| 12:34.16 | appelza | erm, rsyncs main purpose is incremental? ;p |
| 12:34.31 | cafuego | jbalcomb: rdiff-backup |
| 12:34.48 | zzz | Hi! I have sata2 on amd64 platform. How can i install debian onto it? (My problem is, that sata2 is supported only from 2.6.14 or 15), and the netinst iso image contains 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 12:34.59 | cafuego | appelza: Not really, it just repalces the changed files. |
| 12:35.02 | cafuego | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 12:35.02 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 12:35.32 | zzz | cafuego: Was it for me? |
| 12:35.42 | cafuego | jkrow: ftp_proxy |
| 12:35.46 | cafuego | zzz: indeed |
| 12:35.57 | zzz | thx, then i read it.. . |
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| 12:36.34 | jkrow3 | well, I want it port wide, its actually 6667 I want to use aswell as a program for monitoring stocks which uses another port |
| 12:36.45 | jkrow3 | The proxy server lets all these ports through |
| 12:36.54 | jkrow3 | I just need to make my apps know that |
| 12:37.08 | evilgeek | jbalcomb: no, certainly not seven or eight years. |
| 12:37.26 | NetBandit | jbalcomb: thanks a lot ;) |
| 12:37.31 | NetBandit | cafuego: thank you too ;) |
| 12:37.36 | NetBandit | bye |
| 12:37.59 | magyar | how can i troubleshoot logrotate, my syslog file hasn't rotated in a month? |
| 12:38.19 | jbalcomb | http://www.google.com -> man rsync -> "rsync - faster, flexible replacement for rcp" |
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| 12:38.26 | cafuego | magyar: run it with the syslog cfg file and see what it does? :-) |
| 12:38.54 | magyar | cafuego: syslog cfg? |
| 12:39.07 | jbalcomb | evilgeek: k, i used to be on here when i was a wee debian nub, thought i recalled your nick. maybe another evilgenius or my brain is growing broken. |
| 12:39.13 | cafuego | magyar: the file with the rules for rotating syslog |
| 12:39.24 | shapr | Hi, I have a question about configuring debian/unstable with a second network card. I have a 3c900 and a rtl8139C, kernel modules are installed, the 3com talks to my DSL modem, but I can't seem to bring up eth1 correctly. |
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| 12:39.36 | evilgeek | jbalcomb: it's entirely possible that you've spoken with me somewhere else. |
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| 12:39.51 | cafuego | trl8139 is satan, C moreso... |
| 12:39.51 | shapr | This is especially strange since the rtl8319C has been my primary ethernet card for years, I just put in the 3com today. |
| 12:39.52 | jbalcomb | shapr: does your dmesg show both nics loading properly? |
| 12:39.57 | magyar | cafuego: there are no files for syslog, i tried running it with /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 12:40.15 | shapr | jbalcomb: yes, eth1: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc00, 00:00:b4:c2:fc:98, IRQ 177 \n eth1: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139B' |
| 12:40.22 | cafuego | magyar: Does it have a --verbose option or somesuch>? |
| 12:40.30 | shapr | jbalcomb: And the 3com is how I'm talking to you now, so I'm certain it works. |
| 12:40.31 | jbalcomb | evilgeek: certainly possible but I've been very very little on IRC in the last 6 years until about 4 months |
| 12:40.45 | cafuego | shapr: firewall? |
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| 12:41.17 | jbalcomb | shapr: so the 3com is now eth0 and the realtek is eth1? |
| 12:41.18 | shapr | with ifup -v eth1 I get: ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.210 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 up \n SIOCSIFADDR: No such device \n eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device \n SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device \n SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device |
| 12:41.26 | asg | shapr: does /sbin/ifconfig -a even show an eth1 |
| 12:41.27 | shapr | jbalcomb: That's correct. |
| 12:41.38 | shapr | asg: Nope |
| 12:41.42 | Detox | hey folks I have a dell inspirion 2500 laptop and I cannot get debian to work on ,,, all I get after isntall is a scrolling screen .. how to I reconfigure video? |
| 12:41.49 | asg | shapr: then the kernel module isn't installed correctly |
| 12:42.06 | shapr | asg: ifconfig -a does show an eth1_temp but I thought that had something to do with usb networking for my Nokia 770 |
| 12:42.34 | magyar | cafuego: sure does, doesnt mention anything about syslog |
| 12:42.34 | asg | shapr: never seen and eth1_temp. Try dropping that interface and reinserting the module for the realtek |
| 12:42.41 | shapr | asg: Can't drop that iface, no idea why. |
| 12:42.50 | jbalcomb | shpar: any more relevant information in your syslog? |
| 12:43.02 | asg | shapr: ifconfig eth1_temp drop (does that not work?) |
| 12:43.31 | amphi | Detox: have a look at linux-laptop.net perhaps |
| 12:43.45 | liable | shapr: you have udev? |
| 12:43.46 | evilgeek | jbalcomb: yeah. i've been on IRC for a long time, but i haven't been here for very long. |
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| 12:43.48 | Detox | k |
| 12:43.50 | shapr | liable: yes |
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| 12:44.05 | shapr | asg: No, ifconfig eth1_temp down does not work, but it doesn't give any errors either. |
| 12:44.13 | magyar | cafuego: looks like its a bug in etch, none of my etch systems have rotated seince June 03 |
| 12:44.21 | jbalcomb | shapr: does lsmod show the module for the realtek loaded and in use? |
| 12:44.24 | liable | shapr: google for temp devices to do with udev, theres an old rule you can delete may fix it |
| 12:44.28 | cafuego | Hmm, bugfile ;-) |
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| 12:44.43 | cafuego | magyar: Create an explicit definition for syslog and see if it roates then. |
| 12:44.47 | asg | shapr: hmmm, if you know the MAC of the realtek, you might use nameif to call it eth2 and try to bring up the interface with that. |
| 12:44.48 | shapr | jbalcomb: Yes, I have both 8139too and 8139cp modules. |
| 12:45.18 | jbalcomb | evilgeek: perhaps #linux, #cisco, #asterisk, or #cleveland? |
| 12:45.39 | shapr | liable: I'll check out temp devices after a bit more debugging, thanks for the suggestion. |
| 12:46.07 | evilgeek | i guess not. oh well. |
| 12:46.46 | jbalcomb | so it goes. "damn, I got the wrong EvilGeek!" |
| 12:46.48 | magyar | anyone running etch? |
| 12:46.53 | shapr | asg: I don't know the MAC of the RealTek off the top of my head. |
| 12:46.54 | magyar | as a server? |
| 12:47.00 | asg | shapr: 00:00:b4:c2:fc:98 |
| 12:47.10 | asg | shapr: it was part of the output you pasted above |
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| 12:47.28 | shapr | ah, duh |
| 12:48.54 | shapr | asg: yay! nameif eth1 00:00:b4:c2:fc:98 && ifup eth1 worked! |
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| 12:49.00 | shapr | Thanks for your help guys! |
| 12:49.01 | rix | hi |
| 12:49.13 | asg | shapr: cool |
| 12:49.26 | rix | it's possible to use mysql as the ldap db? |
| 12:49.49 | elements | rix: Perhaps with back-sql. |
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| 12:50.11 | rix | it's a packet? |
| 12:50.19 | elements | rix: It's not recommended tho if you can avoid it, due to performance reasons. |
| 12:50.27 | elements | No it's a backend for OpenLDAP. |
| 12:50.43 | rix | hmmm if i want to edit the db via web, what can i do? |
| 12:50.44 | magyar | can someone confirm that logrotate is working proper on etch? |
| 12:50.58 | elements | rix: apt-get install phpldapadmin |
| 12:51.43 | rix | and with the default db and ldap i can have all the services togheter(web, ssh, ftp, mail, quota)? |
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| 12:52.43 | cafuego | rix: there's a php based interfac for ldap |
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| 12:53.06 | rix | ok i understand |
| 12:53.16 | elements | cafuego: Which I just mentioned? :) |
| 12:53.19 | rix | what for a complete guide? |
| 12:53.41 | cafuego | elements: blah |
| 12:53.51 | cafuego | rix: google is your friend |
| 12:54.06 | rix | :) |
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| 12:54.28 | elements | rix: I don't understand what you want exactly. But yes, it's possible to use LDAP for _authentication_ to those services you mentioned, except quota. I have never stored quota info in LDAP so don't know if it's possible. |
| 12:54.56 | mux | is sean finney around by any chance? |
| 12:55.11 | cafuego | elements: the quotatools store that stuff in hardcoded filenames on disk |
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| 12:55.33 | mux | seanius@ |
| 12:55.35 | rix | i want to create a ldap server that will manage alla the service |
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| 12:55.52 | asg | !seen seanius |
| 12:55.53 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'seanius', asg |
| 12:56.04 | asg | mux: do you know if he uses a different irc nick? |
| 12:56.09 | mux | asg: unfortunately no |
| 12:56.20 | rix | so that if i add a user it will have an email account a littel bit webspace and all the other services |
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| 12:56.58 | elements | cafuego: aquota.user and aquota.group, yepp, have used them tho. |
| 12:57.09 | rix | like if you buy some web space on the web... with an online registration it would be created a unix account |
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| 12:57.17 | rix | is ldap right for me? |
| 12:57.36 | ktwilight | it's not |
| 12:57.36 | mux | asg: even seen it around before? |
| 12:57.41 | mux | ever, rather |
| 12:57.48 | nyk2005 | I get this error when trying "apt-get install zope": dpkg: error processing zope (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 22. ... I get the same for "dpkg --configure zope". Any help? |
| 12:58.13 | streuner | nyk2005: what does BTS say? |
| 12:58.15 | elements | rix: Yes, but you would also need to administer other things such as creating a home directory, setting quota etc. That is not done automatically by the LDAP-server itself. |
| 12:58.20 | yang | I am wondering if there is any software that can read musical data on DDS tapes on DDS streamer, which were recorded on a DAT audio rack ? |
| 12:58.35 | rix | how can i do? |
| 12:58.39 | ktwilight | nyk2005, it's recommended to install zope from source |
| 12:58.40 | asg | mux: not in the last 30 - 40 days |
| 12:58.48 | asg | mux: or the bot would have returned info |
| 12:58.51 | mux | asg: okay, thanks for the help |
| 12:59.00 | asg | mux: you're welcome |
| 12:59.25 | elements | rix: How you do it is up to you. I'm just saying that LDAP might be a good choice to use in the solution. But it's not the _only_ part of a solution to your problem. |
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| 13:00.41 | rix | hmmm.... i was thinking that it can do all what i need... there are others solution you know, or i should write some scripts...? |
| 13:00.54 | CodeWarrior_ | hello folks, any problem about msn (gaim) today ? |
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| 13:01.02 | asg | CodeWarrior_: check the BTS |
| 13:01.12 | CodeWarrior_ | asg: what is BTS ? |
| 13:01.14 | asg | !bts |
| 13:01.15 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 13:01.34 | CodeWarrior_ | right |
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| 13:02.41 | CodeWarrior_ | nothing about the problem I'm having... |
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| 13:02.59 | CodeWarrior_ | anybody here uses gaim with msn protocol and it's running today ? |
| 13:03.07 | asg | CodeWarrior_: well, I can tell you that MSN is working fine with bitlbee so I don't think the protocol has changed substantially. |
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| 13:03.36 | CodeWarrior_ | asg: can you see your account config and tell me what server login for msn are you using ? |
| 13:04.14 | nyk2005 | streuner: BTS? |
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| 13:04.32 | tralala | CodeWarrior_: supposedly you mean server name |
| 13:04.35 | asg | CodeWarrior_: 207.46.24.31 is the machine I'm currently connected to |
| 13:04.42 | asg | CodeWarrior_: the MSN machine that is |
| 13:04.44 | superlinux | there is the http proxy support in amule. how can I configure squid for it? |
| 13:04.45 | rix | what are the provider solutions for the registration and user account problems? |
| 13:04.49 | nyk2005 | ktwilight: It is? I used zope from apt on an other debian install and it worked great! but now, no idea.. :) |
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| 13:06.04 | tralala | superlinux: by allowing squid connections to the relevant (amule) ports. Which are they should be described in the amule docs and how to allow ports is explained in the squid docs. |
| 13:06.05 | CodeWarrior_ | asg: it can't work for me... saying that server is down... |
| 13:06.22 | superlinux | ok thanks |
| 13:06.25 | asg | CodeWarrior_: hmmm, okay. I don't know then. |
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| 13:06.49 | CodeWarrior_ | asg: ok, thanks same way |
| 13:07.12 | CodeWarrior_ | tralala: yes, the server name |
| 13:07.48 | tralala | CodeWarrior_: well you've got an IP already which should be (almost) equivallent |
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| 13:08.18 | CodeWarrior_ | tralala: right, I just wanted to answer your question |
| 13:08.41 | tralala | CodeWarrior_: Personally I'm using Jabber with an MSN gateway. It works like a charm. |
| 13:09.02 | CodeWarrior_ | tralala: great solution |
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| 13:10.08 | tralala | CodeWarrior_: Maybe not great but one that works as long as messaging and email notification is concerned |
| 13:10.17 | ktwilight | nyk2005, yes :) |
| 13:10.52 | PhUrl | anyone can support me on eclipse/gjc on debian? |
| 13:10.53 | CodeWarrior_ | tralala: yes |
| 13:11.10 | tralala | CodeWarrior_: And you have the extra benefit of being allowed to stay ignorant of the protocol changes |
| 13:12.00 | nyk2005 | ktwilight: the strange thing is, I can even start it, but apt-get can't configure something... is there a log of that somewhere? |
| 13:12.02 | CodeWarrior_ | tralala: right |
| 13:12.05 | ktwilight | i'm having a difficult time trying to figure out how to get ppp working over wireless. does anyone have a clue? |
| 13:12.27 | tralala | PhUrl: unless it is debian specific you might get better information from the eclipse and/or gjc related sources |
| 13:12.41 | ktwilight | apt-get log? no idea nyk2005. but usually, to configure zope, just do it manually on zope.conf? |
| 13:12.41 | ktwilight | or does debconf deal with it? |
| 13:12.59 | tralala | ktwilight: why do you need ppp to work over wireless? |
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| 13:13.27 | ktwilight | 'cuz having a wire stretching from one room to another is ridiculous |
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| 13:13.57 | ktwilight | or is it not possible over wireles? |
| 13:14.03 | tralala | ktwilight: I actually meant why ppp, not why wireless. |
| 13:14.19 | PhUrl | ok |
| 13:14.23 | PhUrl | tralala, thanks |
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| 13:14.33 | tralala | PhUrl: sure |
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| 13:14.42 | lunitik | ktwilight: debconf always always at least gets you to a usable state... although you should always tweak manually. |
| 13:15.02 | ktwilight | oh right |
| 13:15.02 | ktwilight | 'cuz that's the system over here? |
| 13:15.02 | ktwilight | i've got an adsl modem, if that helps |
| 13:15.11 | lunitik | s/always always/almost always/ |
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| 13:15.40 | lunitik | ktwilight: pppoeconf <-- what you likely want for dsl |
| 13:16.16 | tralala | ktwilight: I have an adsl modem and a wireless network at home and I don't use ppp for the wireless part but only for the dsl connection part which is wired. |
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| 13:16.37 | vronsky | anybody ever have mondoarchive freeze for no reason? the logfile gives not a hint. |
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| 13:17.09 | asg | lunitik: it's tubular |
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| 13:17.25 | asg | vronsky: use strace to attach to the pid of the process and see what it's up to. |
| 13:17.39 | vronsky | hm |
| 13:17.59 | ktwilight | lunitik, i've went through pppoeconf, but it didn't detect it. it only works over ethernet cable, not wirelss, i think... |
| 13:17.59 | ktwilight | tralala, that means my setup is wrong then. thanks |
| 13:17.59 | ktwilight | will double check :) |
| 13:18.01 | tralala | ktwilight: I might be able to help you if you describe your goal more precisely. |
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| 13:19.13 | vronsky | asg: Good idea, I wish I had thought of it before I killed Mondo. This has happened twice at the same point in the backup. I'm starting to think about alternatives to Mondo, but Mondo does seem to be the program of choice... |
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| 13:21.09 | Nei | hi, I'm searching for a console tool that can rid me of my duplicated images, would someone happen to know such tool by chance? |
| 13:21.38 | asg | Nei: apt-cache show findimagedupes |
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| 13:22.12 | Nei | omg such a simple name thanks alot |
| 13:22.14 | vronsky | Anybody have a suggestion besides mondo for backing up ~120 gigs to dvds? |
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| 13:23.33 | scanf | #ubuntu |
| 13:23.38 | asg | what about it? |
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| 13:30.09 | ico2_ | in apt, what is the maximum length for a package description? |
| 13:31.25 | manding0 | when you do a dpkg -l, what do the different statuses mean (ii, ic, rc, etc...) |
| 13:31.29 | manding0 | cant find it in the man page |
| 13:31.38 | asg | manding0: look at the top lines of the output |
| 13:32.17 | manding0 | it has the different status' but not the meanings abbreviated, for instance, I know ii means installed, |
| 13:32.18 | manding0 | ahhh |
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| 13:32.22 | manding0 | it's desired/status |
| 13:32.23 | manding0 | nice |
| 13:32.26 | stew | ico2_: policy doesn't define a maximum |
| 13:32.47 | manding0 | can you set that status when installing? |
| 13:33.38 | stew | ico2_: the one line synopsis should be less than 80 chars though |
| 13:34.24 | asg | manding0: dpkg --get-selections > foo ; dpkg --set-selections < foo (allows for some editing) ; /msg dpkg hold |
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| 13:35.00 | ico2_ | stew: thanks |
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| 13:35.25 | manding0 | asg: thanks! |
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| 13:35.59 | lunitik | manding0: it tells you in the output of dpkg -l ... at the top... |
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| 13:37.44 | charzero | Can I do anything to contol what device gets assigned to a usb flash drive? |
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| 13:40.38 | peterS | charzero: you can configure udev, if you are using udev, to provide whatever device name you want, based on various criteria. don't ask me how, ask the udev documentation |
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| 13:41.05 | asg | peterS: doesn't the udev documentation bite though? |
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| 13:41.12 | cast | now why is it that i'm using alsa but still only one app can access /dev/dsp at a time? |
| 13:41.13 | peterS | asg: I bite harder |
| 13:41.17 | stew | !udev usbkey |
| 13:41.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, udev usbkey is plug your usb key in, then run dmesg, look for a line like this: Vendor: LEXAR Model: JUMPDRIVE SECURE Rev: 1000; then echo 'BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="JUMPDRIVE SECURE", NAME{all_partitions}="usbkey%n"' >> /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules ; but substitute the the Model: string from dmesg into the SYSFS{model} parameter |
| 13:41.19 | asg | peterS: :F |
| 13:43.14 | stew | charzero: ^^^ also running "udevinfo -a -p /sys/bus/usb/devices/foo" will give you the info to match the given "foo" in a udev rule |
| 13:43.20 | Shadowcat | I don't see why you can't just call the usb key /dev/sd[a-z][1-9] |
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| 13:44.12 | charzero | stew: how do i tell if i'm using udev? |
| 13:44.14 | stew | Shadowcat: i don't always attach my usb storage in the same order, and i want the drive with my ssh keys to always get the same device |
| 13:44.34 | stew | charzero: is the udev package installed? |
| 13:44.50 | charzero | stew: nope. |
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| 13:45.12 | charzero | stew: if i install it, is it going to mess up anything? |
| 13:45.46 | stew | charzero: what version of debian? |
| 13:45.50 | charzero | stew: Etch |
| 13:46.22 | charzero | stew: Says it will remove hotplug. I don't think i'm doing anything special with hotplug though. |
| 13:47.37 | stew | charzero: it has a couple of (mostly minor) consequences. if you have multiple ethernet cards, eth0 and eth1 (for instance) could get switched on you (only once, after that they remain permanant). If you have hotplug installed udev will replace it. udev will require firmware to be in /lib/firmware, not /usr/lib/hotplug/firmare, also if you are blacklisting with hotplug, read /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 13:48.16 | stew | charzero: you must be running a >= 2.6.15 kernel |
| 13:48.38 | charzero | stew: is there anything i must have compiled into the kernel for it to work? |
| 13:48.50 | stew | charzero: sysfs support and hotplug support. |
| 13:49.56 | mz_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.01 | mz_work | doh |
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| 13:50.39 | charzero | stew: CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI, or something else? |
| 13:50.56 | the_mug | howdy friends. can someone refresh me on the command to re-setup exim in Debian? |
| 13:51.19 | stew | charzero: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y |
| 13:51.27 | stew | CONFIG_SYSFS=y |
| 13:51.28 | petemc | the_mug: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 13:51.30 | asg | the_mug: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 13:51.39 | the_mug | gracias |
| 13:51.42 | the_mug | and gracias |
| 13:51.46 | asg | de nada |
| 13:51.53 | the_mug | :-) |
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| 13:52.24 | charzero | stew: do you know where CONFIG_HOTPLUG is in menuconfig? |
| 13:52.43 | stew | charzero: no. i pretty much never compile my own kerenls |
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| 13:53.23 | charzero | stew: I had to. debian kernel didn't like my hardware. |
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| 13:53.35 | stew | charzero: what did you have to change in the config? |
| 13:53.36 | cast | is there a way i can reinstall perl without removing half my system? |
| 13:53.51 | stew | cast: aptitude reinstall perl |
| 13:53.56 | charzero | stew: SATA stuff. |
| 13:54.01 | stew | cast: why do you want to reisntall it? |
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| 13:54.04 | cast | lmao. oh right. |
| 13:54.11 | cast | perls broken, or debsigs. |
| 13:54.49 | tralala | charzero: my impression is that 99% of the people who compile kernels don't need to do it. Instead they simply need to use a debian or a backports kernel. |
| 13:55.23 | stew | charzero: what did you change? disabling some modules? making some compiled in that used to be modules? |
| 13:58.13 | charzero | stew: udev lost my /dev/loop devices, now i don't have any swap and my encrypted partitions aren't mounted. (: |
| 13:58.49 | charzero | stew: I had to have the SATA stuff compiled in. |
| 13:59.27 | charzero | stew: (the debian kernel didn't work, so i just pulled a kernel i had from a previous installation. i have since rebuilt it with kpkg) |
| 13:59.38 | cast | charzero: dmsetup+LUKS is nice, for future ref :> |
| 13:59.57 | charzero | stew: Do you know how I get my /dev/loop[0-9] back, or where they are now? |
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| 14:00.48 | charzero | stew: I found /dev/loop/0. I need another one though. |
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| 14:01.06 | stew | charzero: the /dev/loop devices should be created when losetup is run |
| 14:01.09 | TARZEAU | apt popcon |
| 14:01.11 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:01.32 | stew | charzero: with udev the /dev entries don't exist until the actual devices they talk to are available |
| 14:01.52 | JViz | is there a bit torrent for the net install image of 3.1r2? |
| 14:02.08 | stew | charzero: so if you have /dev/loop0 now, and then you run 'losetup /path/to/some/loopback', /dev/loop1 should appear |
| 14:02.18 | charzero | stew: I see. I just had to change fstab from /dev/loop[0-9] to /dev/loop/[0-9] |
| 14:02.40 | stew | charzero: hmm those symlinks should be crated for you, if not you can easily configure udev to do it |
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| 14:03.39 | tralala | JViz: is google able to find any? |
| 14:03.48 | stew | JViz: http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 14:04.53 | JViz | ah, there it is |
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| 14:05.36 | streuner | what did you change? |
| 14:06.19 | streuner | hm |
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| 14:07.19 | Maulkin | install topicdiff.pl :) |
| 14:07.57 | charzero | stew: the problem is that i need these loop devices before udev is up |
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| 14:09.07 | anisfarhana | hello |
| 14:09.16 | anisfarhana | i try to activate my second NIC , but i got this error "8139too device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization" , what is the problem then ? |
| 14:09.27 | anisfarhana | both status of eth0 and eth1 = OK |
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| 14:11.40 | stew | charzero: that shouldn't be a problem. before udev is up your old static dev is available. though you'll probably need change udev to either create loop0 instead of loop/0 of symlink one to the other so that the entries match with and without udev |
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| 14:12.13 | jair | hello guys. |
| 14:12.24 | charzero | stew: how do i create the static loop device? (there were always just there before) |
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| 14:13.52 | BeeTChaR | hello, can someone help me about Debian 3.1 ? plz |
| 14:14.04 | asg | !ask |
| 14:14.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 14:14.22 | BeeTChaR | it is about mounting windows patritions |
| 14:14.37 | BeeTChaR | sorry |
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| 14:14.52 | stew | charzero: go to the udev directory, find the rule that says NAME="loop/%n" and add to that line SYMLINK+="%k" this say, also make a symlink at the "kerel name": /dev/loop0 |
| 14:15.02 | asg | smbmount //server/share /mnt/point -o username=foo |
| 14:15.24 | BeeTChaR | that is all? |
| 14:15.41 | asg | BeeTChaR: that's all I ever do (you'll need the smbfs package also) |
| 14:15.52 | dimir | BeeTChaR: better ask a question. |
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| 14:16.04 | asg | BeeTChaR: if you are talking about physical partitions on the same system as Debian, then it depends |
| 14:16.29 | stew | charzero: your other option is to switch to a debian kernel, which would start udev in the initrd, likely before you need the loopback devices |
| 14:16.44 | BeeTChaR | well I have Windows and Debian and when I boot Debian I cant see Windows partitions |
| 14:16.48 | charzero | stew: that will create /dev/loop0 ? |
| 14:16.53 | BeeTChaR | I tried with fstab |
| 14:16.54 | stew | charzero: which? |
| 14:17.02 | TARZEAU | BeeTChaR: ntfs5 i guess? what kernel? |
| 14:17.04 | stew | charzero: the SYMLINK+= would |
| 14:17.10 | charzero | stew: the change in /etc/udev/devfs.rules |
| 14:17.10 | TARZEAU | BeeTChaR: you need to mount those paritions |
| 14:17.15 | asg | BeeTChaR: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 14:17.22 | charzero | stew: it will create it even if /dev/loop/0 does not exist? |
| 14:17.30 | asg | BeeTChaR: /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
| 14:17.46 | jonnylamb | BeeTChaR: you need to add a entry in the grub config file: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 14:17.46 | BeeTChaR | thanks asg |
| 14:18.13 | BeeTChaR | I can boot windows it is not about grub |
| 14:18.26 | jonnylamb | BeeTChaR: oops- sorry! should have read taht more carefully! |
| 14:18.42 | stew | charzero: no. it wouldn't only create it if /dev/loop/0 exists. but that doesn't matter, until /dev/loop/0 exists its not usable anyway |
| 14:18.45 | BeeTChaR | thanks anyway |
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| 14:20.12 | SeanTater | How might I get Smart (package manager) to pass a environment variable ($DISPLAY) to dpkg for debconf? |
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| 14:21.52 | grendal_prime | this entire business with dri and xorg is really starting to piss me off |
| 14:22.49 | tralala | SeanTater: if the environment variable is set you don't need to pass it - any programme that is interested in it will check for it on its own |
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| 14:23.40 | SeanTater | tralala: thanks |
| 14:23.41 | tralala | grendal_prime: upgrade to vista ;) (just joking) |
| 14:24.04 | asg | grendal_prime: talk to gravity when next you see him |
| 14:24.07 | charzero | stew: the problem is getting /dev/loop/? to exist in the first place. |
| 14:24.14 | grendal_prime | k |
| 14:24.28 | stew | charzero: run losetup |
| 14:24.35 | stew | charzero: with the image that you want there |
| 14:24.53 | charzero | stew: will it still be there after reboot? |
| 14:24.57 | stew | charzero: no |
| 14:24.57 | grendal_prime | well in the mean time i cant get around this issue with using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 14:25.09 | stew | charzero: what do you expect to be able to do with /dev/loop/foo? |
| 14:25.48 | stew | charzero: if no loopback has been setup then no /dev/loop/foo would exist, since there is no loopback that you can use |
| 14:25.56 | charzero | stew: use it for swap. (fstab has: /dev/sda3 none swap sw,loop=/dev/loop3,encryption=AES128,pri=1 0 0) |
| 14:25.59 | stew | charzero: when you set one up, the dev entry instantly appears |
| 14:26.14 | charzero | stew: that used to work on boot. |
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| 14:26.52 | stew | charzero: hmm, i don't know about that |
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| 14:27.22 | charzero | stew: I do know about that. :) |
| 14:27.34 | NoComments | Jul 12 11:05:19 localhost postfix/pickup[32343]: warning: maildrop/9FE8933401B: Error writing message file |
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| 14:27.35 | stew | charzero: i mean, i don't know how to recover that functionality |
| 14:27.39 | charzero | stew: oh. |
| 14:27.46 | NoComments | help me |
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| 14:27.59 | stew | charzero: google for "encrypted swap udev" maybe |
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| 14:28.03 | asg | charzero: since you don't need swap to boot, don't automount it from fstab and have an init.d script bring it up after udev starts |
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| 14:28.37 | charzero | stew: When i boot there are no /dev/loop?. After a few minutes they show up. Is udev doing that? |
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| 14:29.39 | stew | charzero: udev creates the dev entries as soon as its notified, you migh check dmesg/syslog |
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| 14:31.18 | abel | hi all, i run under a debian etch and i want to move the META key effect from the alt_L key to the windows key. does anyone know how to do ? |
| 14:31.43 | asg | abel: xmodmap -e 'keysym Super_L = Multi_key' |
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| 14:32.04 | asg | abel: by META, did you mean compose? |
| 14:32.05 | abel | i try |
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| 14:32.28 | abel | by meta i means the key use by emacs in most shortcut |
| 14:33.07 | asg | abel: oh, that won't work then. Start by reading the xmodmap manpage |
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| 14:33.17 | abel | i want for exemple , that windows+b do a backward word in a term. |
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| 14:34.44 | asg | abel: not sure if you can map a sequence to a single key (at least with xmodmap). Perhaps the folks in #emacs know of a workaround. |
| 14:35.21 | abel | i don't want to maps the sequence, only the Meta modificator |
| 14:35.43 | abel | all thing i have done throught xmodmap have no effect at all |
| 14:35.44 | asg | abel: you mean the Ctrl key? |
| 14:36.26 | abel | no the meta is not ctrl nor alt even if the meta key effect is most frequenlty associated with Alt. |
| 14:36.36 | asg | oh, I don't know then |
| 14:36.48 | abel | ok, thanks whatever |
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| 14:46.53 | MarkH_UK | hi @ all |
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| 14:46.57 | dimir | hi |
| 14:47.00 | MarkH_UK | it seems GD for debian is borked |
| 14:47.02 | MarkH_UK | anyone help |
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| 14:47.26 | streuner | GD? |
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| 14:47.40 | jbrimble | I have a question about SCP. How would I set up an account for someone to backup their work on the server, but restrict them to only modify one directory? or would it be better to use sftp? |
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| 14:48.01 | eps | only give them access to that one dir |
| 14:48.15 | Maulkin | And use rbash. |
| 14:48.27 | MarkH_UK | streuner yes GD image Library |
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| 14:48.32 | Maulkin | (possibly) |
| 14:49.03 | MarkH_UK | how can I get more current php versions for sarge. |
| 14:49.07 | MarkH_UK | mines at 4.3.10 |
| 14:49.11 | philips | jbrimble: By default users can generally only modify their $HOME... |
| 14:49.23 | jbrimble | Ah, i see. |
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| 14:49.44 | Fox | MarkH_UK: try backports.org or dotdeb.org |
| 14:49.46 | jbrimble | So i'd just set up a plain user account and it's already secure? |
| 14:49.50 | the_mug | MarkH_UK: compile your own. :-) |
| 14:49.56 | jbrimble | They can't view/execute anything other than home |
| 14:50.05 | philips | jbrimble: Secure in that they can still ssh into the box and run shell too |
| 14:50.20 | jbrimble | ah, got it. |
| 14:50.34 | cast | question re backports.org. are the maintainer entries, say for the 2.6 kernel there [debian kernel team] valid? did the debian kernel team really make that kernel? |
| 14:51.15 | Chronx | hmm... gnome isn't working. |
| 14:51.25 | philips | cast: backports are generally recompiled versions of official debian packages. |
| 14:51.45 | philips | cast: backports.org is ran by Debian developers as an unofficial project |
| 14:51.51 | Detox | I cannot get debian etch to work with my dell laptop with i815 video |
| 14:51.58 | Chronx | how do i setup x server ? |
| 14:52.00 | Detox | any ideas? |
| 14:52.09 | Chronx | i get error message "cannot start x server." when i login |
| 14:52.22 | Maulkin | Chronx: What's in the error log? |
| 14:52.23 | cast | philips: ahh, sounds respectible. just cautious about pkgs from non-debian sources |
| 14:52.31 | Ragnaroek | out of interest |
| 14:52.39 | Chronx | Maulkin hmm.. i dont see much |
| 14:52.53 | Maulkin | Detox: Not really, ubless you tell us what isn't working |
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| 14:53.03 | Maulkin | Chronx: You're lookign for some EE: lines |
| 14:53.15 | Maulkin | Chronx: Shoudl be near the end |
| 14:53.15 | Chronx | hhmm.. /usr/x11r6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_cli.o": no symbols found |
| 14:53.17 | Chronx | lots of that |
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| 14:53.40 | jbrimble | Regarding my question about SCP earlier, when I log via WinSCP with an account I made, they can still view the contents of other directories.. Can I prevent this? |
| 14:53.40 | Detox | monotir scrolls |
| 14:53.50 | Detox | white with black lines |
| 14:53.56 | Chronx | fatal server error: no screens found |
| 14:54.14 | Maulkin | Chronx: Are you running Ubuntu by any chance? |
| 14:54.19 | Chronx | debian |
| 14:54.19 | Lektron | where/how can I see a log file of errors that occur when i do a shutdown? I have looked in /var/log, but did not see a shutdown log. |
| 14:54.22 | asg | jbrimble: install scponly |
| 14:54.24 | Chronx | i just installed debian last night |
| 14:54.30 | Chronx | and now i can't get gnome to work |
| 14:54.35 | Detox | have don dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg setting both to vesa and to i810 not working |
| 14:54.48 | MarkH_UK | is there anyway to get php 4.4.x through apt-get? |
| 14:54.57 | Chronx | (EE) No devices detected. is that what you mean Maulkin? |
| 14:55.00 | asg | jbrimble: also, you might want to look at rssh |
| 14:55.04 | Maulkin | Chronx: That could be it :) |
| 14:55.18 | Maulkin | Chronx: Try this: |
| 14:55.20 | Chronx | how could i fix |
| 14:55.21 | shapr | I have a silly question, why would ntpd think I have two ip addresses bound to each interface? For example: Listening on interface eth0, 169.254.224.151#123 \n Listening on interface eth0, 81.235.177.71#123 \n Listening on interface eth1, 169.254.230.20#123 \n Listening on interface eth1, 192.168.0.210#123 ? |
| 14:55.21 | Maulkin | !drxx |
| 14:55.22 | dpkg | from memory, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 14:55.29 | Maulkin | Chronx: That ^^ |
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| 14:56.03 | Chronx | runn dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 14:56.43 | asg | shapr: does /sbin/ifconfig show any indication of the other addresses? |
| 14:56.43 | asg | shapr: this might also have something to do with your eth1_temp issue earlier |
| 14:56.55 | Maulkin | Chronx: yes. |
| 14:57.33 | shapr | asg: I've had this weird ip address issue for months without problems, the eth1_temp thing only started when I configured usb0 as hotplug. |
| 14:57.44 | Chronx | which x server driver should i choose ? |
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| 14:57.48 | Chronx | i'm running debian on a vm |
| 14:58.03 | asg | shapr: odd |
| 14:58.12 | shapr | asg: ifconfig shows the 169.254.230.20 address for both interfaces. Is that weird or what? |
| 14:58.38 | asg | shapr: did you perhaps create any virtual interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces (eth0:0 and eth1:0) ? |
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| 14:58.42 | shapr | But the other addresses seem to be the 'real' addresses. |
| 14:58.43 | Fox | MarkH_UK: dotdeb.org |
| 14:58.46 | shapr | asg: nope |
| 14:58.54 | stew | shapr: you installed the "zeroconf" package |
| 14:59.06 | shapr | stew: I think so, yes. Why? |
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| 14:59.10 | stew | shapr: your interfaces have multiple addresses assigned, "ip a" will list all of them |
| 14:59.18 | shapr | aha |
| 14:59.21 | asg | ah, that makes sense |
| 14:59.29 | stew | shapr: zeroconf assigns a 169.254 address to all of the interfaces |
| 14:59.42 | Chronx | how do i restart xserv ? |
| 14:59.42 | charzero | does udev automatically pick up changes to its rules? |
| 14:59.44 | Chronx | or gdm or w/e it was |
| 14:59.44 | jbrimble | What does scponly do? |
| 14:59.46 | shapr | That makes sense. |
| 14:59.58 | shapr | stew: Have you ever heard of eth1_temp ? Is that zeroconf or usb0 hotplug? |
| 15:00.08 | stew | shapr: dunno |
| 15:00.09 | bryndza | Hi, I have an ssh/login question. It is possible to have multiple passwords for one account. Lets say, password that can be used on terminal, and one over ssh.Someone who has access to device, can login with one password and someone else over ssh with key/another_password |
| 15:00.12 | shapr | btw, which dhcp server is recommended? |
| 15:00.30 | MarkH_UK | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 15:00.37 | Detox | in my xorg config it shows under "monitor" section option as "DPMS" in the laptop manual it references lcd interface as LVDS .... should I change the setting to this? |
| 15:00.43 | stew | shapr: there is a bug assigned to zeroconf asking it to please assign the ips in a different order so that the 169 address isn't the one you see in "ifconfig" but i guess it hasn't been done yet |
| 15:00.50 | asg | bryndza: you could use PAM to use a password for console and then an ssh key for remote. |
| 15:00.52 | stew | charzero: /etc/init.d/udev restart |
| 15:01.26 | asg | bryndza: actually, PAM is irrelevant in that particular situation. |
| 15:01.30 | shapr | I think I'll just remove zeroconf for the moment since I don't use it. |
| 15:01.37 | Chronx | how do i start the gui ? |
| 15:01.41 | Chronx | o_O |
| 15:01.43 | asg | Chronx: startx |
| 15:01.53 | asg | Chronx: or /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 15:02.00 | Chronx | dude you rock |
| 15:02.09 | bryndza | asg i wand to achieve twho password for one account so that login from remote is different from login on terminal. |
| 15:02.10 | Chronx | startx was it |
| 15:02.13 | Chronx | wheee for debian gui's |
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| 15:02.26 | Lektron | where/how can I see a log file of errors that occur when i do a shutdown? I have looked in /var/log, but did not see a shutdown log. |
| 15:02.42 | asg | Chronx: that's Gnome's GUI, Debian has hundreds of other GUIs to choose from :) |
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| 15:03.02 | asg | bryndza: are you trying to do account sharing or what? |
| 15:03.24 | Chronx | but they aren't installed by default are they ? |
| 15:03.30 | Chronx | and whats better than gnome o_O? |
| 15:03.31 | asg | Chronx: no |
| 15:03.33 | Chronx | other than kde |
| 15:03.53 | asg | Chronx: it's a matter of taste and working style. If you like Gnome, by all means use it. |
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| 15:04.19 | bryndza | asg somethink like that, it the necesseraly to share the account |
| 15:04.36 | bryndza | so i want to achive to log into that machine only throuht allowed key |
| 15:04.38 | Chronx | hmm.. now what fun stuff can i do to screw up this debian ? |
| 15:04.43 | Chronx | i want to compile a kernel o_O |
| 15:05.01 | bryndza | + i want to be ablle to log in withou the key, if needed |
| 15:05.27 | asg | bryndza: allowed key == ssh key? |
| 15:05.30 | shapr | asg: So, I can connect to the access point with my nokia 770, but I get a link-local ip address. Ethereal does show a single broadcast packet (doesn't seem to be dhcp?) coming from my 770, but udhcp never assigns an address to my 770. Any other advice? |
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| 15:06.04 | asg | shapr: sorry, I don't have any idea about that one. |
| 15:06.06 | bryndza | asg yes |
| 15:06.53 | asg | bryndza: well, ssh is configure to allow key and password access. You could configure ssh to only allow key access (so the password couldn't be used) and then set a password for the user so they could log in at console. |
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| 15:08.54 | bryndza | asg i know, but lets say i need two different password for one account |
| 15:09.08 | charzero | what rc?.d/ file starts udev? |
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| 15:09.23 | Detox | scrolling screen would be result of wrong refresh rate wtih xorg? |
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| 15:09.36 | bryndza | maybe i do it like that: make two different users with same home and uid/gid but different passwords, it is possible ? |
| 15:09.48 | asg | bryndza: yes but questionable |
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| 15:10.18 | jair | I finish a configuration of my postfix MTA server on a debian sarge, and I want to back up the directory in away that preserve everyting that is needed fro restore. |
| 15:10.19 | asg | bryndza: you could use OPIE and the passwords would be different on every login. |
| 15:10.35 | jair | the best way to back it up is using probably tar? |
| 15:10.40 | jair | and bzip2? |
| 15:10.43 | bryndza | no, that would be very bad solutions :) |
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| 15:11.20 | bryndza | jair best compression depends on type of the copressed data |
| 15:11.25 | jair | what will be the best way to back it up then? bzip2 the directory /etc/postfix? |
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| 15:11.28 | bryndza | but bzip2 is a good choice |
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| 15:11.53 | Detox | hello |
| 15:12.17 | jair | bryndza: probably I am looking for a best practice solution to back all the system as how is running now. |
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| 15:12.20 | jair | maybe |
| 15:12.39 | bryndza | jair gzip is faster then bzip |
| 15:12.43 | jair | but I though that Linux could be more flexible at the moment of backup and restore |
| 15:12.52 | bryndza | so i wold prefer gzip if space is no question |
| 15:12.58 | asg | bryndza: for his postfix config dir, the speed will be negligible |
| 15:13.09 | jair | bryndza: but bzip2 I heard have the best performance and compression |
| 15:13.23 | asg | jair: better compression, slower |
| 15:13.32 | jair | asg: I know |
| 15:13.36 | zebalin4 | Can someone give me some 'grep' help. A config file has lines commented with "#". I want to display all lines not commented. How? |
| 15:13.49 | asg | zebalin4: grep -v ^# <file> |
| 15:13.52 | bryndza | i don`t think that bzip2 is very quick ... maybe in decompressions, but on compressing i have better results with gzip |
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| 15:14.11 | guk | yeah ... but how intense do you want your compression ;) |
| 15:14.16 | jair | asg: but if I want to restore it I just will need to uncompress it on the "/etc/" directory and everything will work? |
| 15:14.17 | guk | the more intense the compression the longer it takes |
| 15:14.38 | jair | I mean I have this machine running only the base system and the mail server postfix |
| 15:14.43 | bryndza | if tared, then yes :) |
| 15:15.03 | jair | I was looking into the image solution for Linux |
| 15:15.05 | jair | as well. |
| 15:15.07 | Detox | i cannot get my video to work have dell laptop with i810 video my xorg.conf is open ,, what should i look for???? |
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| 15:15.25 | asg | Detox: don't, close it and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 15:15.30 | bryndza | Detox codecs :) |
| 15:15.34 | Detox | have done this 3x |
| 15:15.44 | asg | Detox: then choose vesa |
| 15:15.49 | Detox | did |
| 15:15.53 | Detox | will do again tho |
| 15:15.56 | zebalin4 | asg: worked great. got a lot of blank lines too, but that's ok. I did: less cupsd.conf| grep -v ^# |
| 15:15.58 | asg | Detox: and also i810? |
| 15:16.13 | Detox | yup |
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| 15:16.40 | asg | zebalin4: egrep -v '^#|^$' <file> |
| 15:17.23 | asg | zebalin4: or egrep -v '^#|^\s*$' <file> (if the blank lines are lines with empty space also) |
| 15:17.37 | asg | Detox: and after typing 'startx' and getting an error, what was the error? |
| 15:17.49 | charzero | stew: I got it all working, just needed an init script so the modules were loaded before the swap, and udev was up before the mounts. Thank you for your help. |
| 15:17.54 | slushpupie | so what are people's opinion on the stability of Etch right now? |
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| 15:17.56 | Detox | whoops waiting for reboot |
| 15:18.04 | zebalin4 | asg: less cupsd.conf| egrep -v '^#|^$' was great. THANKS. |
| 15:18.13 | Detox | will give respomnse in a min |
| 15:18.50 | Detox | rebooting as single user ,,, next is to do root for maint right? |
| 15:18.55 | stew | charzero: loading the modules in /etc/modules should suffice, /etc/init.d/module-init-tools is run very early in rcS.d |
| 15:19.00 | asg | Detox: not for editing your X config with dpkg-reconfig |
| 15:19.01 | stew | charzero: glad you got it working though |
| 15:19.36 | Detox | ok got errors but monitor flaked again |
| 15:19.50 | Detox | am rebooting.. where is log for this? |
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| 15:20.18 | asg | Detox: /var/log/Xorg*.log |
| 15:20.28 | Detox | k |
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| 15:22.28 | MarkH_UK | guys |
| 15:22.32 | Detox | ok have (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not esist |
| 15:22.33 | MarkH_UK | gd is shafted in Sarge release |
| 15:22.45 | MarkH_UK | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatetruecolor() |
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| 15:22.58 | MarkH_UK | anyone help? |
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| 15:23.48 | Laser | hi guys |
| 15:23.59 | Laser | i have a problem |
| 15:24.02 | Laser | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:24.33 | Laser | that happens when i try to install irssi with the apt-get system |
| 15:25.25 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: That soudns like a php error |
| 15:25.35 | MarkH_UK | its something to with gd. |
| 15:25.39 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: apt-get install php4-gd |
| 15:25.43 | MarkH_UK | i have it |
| 15:25.54 | Maulkin | Did you restart your webserver? |
| 15:25.57 | MarkH_UK | yes |
| 15:26.01 | MarkH_UK | tried a few times to fix |
| 15:26.04 | MarkH_UK | it won't do it |
| 15:26.05 | asg | Laser: does apt-get -f install fix it? |
| 15:26.07 | Fox | MarkH_UK: what version of php4-gd are you using ? what's your php4 version ? |
| 15:26.15 | MarkH_UK | 4.3.10-16 |
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| 15:26.20 | MarkH_UK | the sarge one. |
| 15:26.29 | MarkH_UK | can i get newer ones via apt-get? |
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| 15:26.42 | Maulkin | Ok... what's the output of "<? phpinfo(); ?>" |
| 15:26.43 | Laser | asg, no |
| 15:26.52 | MarkH_UK | http://www.tommeetippee.co.uk/inf.php |
| 15:26.56 | Maulkin | Does it contain a section for GD? |
| 15:26.56 | Fox | MarkH_UK: I already answerd this questio twice !! dotdeb.org !! |
| 15:27.04 | asg | MarkH_UK: verify that extension=gd.so exists and is uncommented in /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 15:27.11 | asg | Laser: are you running unstable? |
| 15:27.22 | Laser | i don't think so |
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| 15:27.27 | Fox | MarkH_UK: the gd module is not loaded according to you phpinfo... |
| 15:27.34 | MarkH_UK | how do i load it |
| 15:27.35 | MarkH_UK | ? |
| 15:27.51 | asg | MarkH_UK: verify that extension=gd.so exists and is uncommented in /etc/php4/apache/php.ini ; restart apache |
| 15:28.13 | MarkH_UK | kohj:/etc/apache# find / -name gd.so |
| 15:28.13 | MarkH_UK | /usr/lib/php4/20020429/gd.so |
| 15:28.31 | Laser | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r2 "Sarge" |
| 15:28.35 | Laser | that is stable isn't it |
| 15:28.42 | Fox | yes Laser |
| 15:28.45 | asg | Laser: yes, unless you've added some non-standard questionable sources |
| 15:28.48 | jpinto | Hi, does a intel centrino (pentium M) should use use linux-image-686, or linux-image-686-smp ?? |
| 15:28.57 | MarkH_UK | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagerotate() in /var/www/shop/include/func.php on line 176 |
| 15:28.59 | MarkH_UK | now i get this |
| 15:29.21 | Fox | then your code is wrong |
| 15:29.59 | MarkH_UK | can't be |
| 15:30.01 | Fox | at least the gd module is loaded now |
| 15:30.02 | asg | Laser: can you put the full error for 'apt-get install irssi' in a paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 15:30.03 | MarkH_UK | worked on another server. |
| 15:30.06 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: What's the output of "grep gd.so /etc/php4/apache/php.ini" |
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| 15:30.09 | Eclipser | oerf |
| 15:30.20 | Fox | Maulkin: check his phpinfo, gd module is loaded now |
| 15:30.21 | Eclipser | I forgot how to scan for my phone capabilities using bluetooth... |
| 15:30.28 | MarkH_UK | kohj:/etc/apache# grep gd.so /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 15:30.28 | MarkH_UK | extension=gd.so |
| 15:30.28 | Maulkin | Fox: Ahh, ok |
| 15:30.31 | Laser | asg, ok. just a moment |
| 15:30.44 | MarkH_UK | someone on php channel said that gd is broken in debian? |
| 15:30.57 | Fox | MarkH_UK: did you check the BTS ? |
| 15:31.01 | MarkH_UK | BTS? |
| 15:31.05 | asg | MarkH_UK: never been a problem for me |
| 15:31.05 | MarkH_UK | bug track? |
| 15:31.10 | lunitik | !bts |
| 15:31.10 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 15:31.30 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: Seems ok here |
| 15:31.41 | MarkH_UK | well, it isnt for me |
| 15:31.42 | MarkH_UK | Call to undefined function: imagerotate() |
| 15:31.45 | MarkH_UK | thats what i get |
| 15:31.58 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: Ahh, have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=298061 |
| 15:32.10 | Laser | asg, isnt it more appropriate to go to #flood and then paste? |
| 15:32.31 | asg | Laser: better to use the paster these days; not everyone is in #flood |
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| 15:33.12 | maxer | how do i change the keyboard map to uk one? |
| 15:33.19 | Laser | i'm sorry the bot just ignored me :) |
| 15:33.20 | MarkH_UK | so there's no fix |
| 15:33.20 | MarkH_UK | ? |
| 15:33.25 | MarkH_UK | other than install php from tar? |
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| 15:33.53 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: Read the comments on http://uk2.php.net/imagerotate |
| 15:33.54 | asg | !tell Laser about paster |
| 15:33.59 | jpinto | Hi, does anyone know if a centrino has hyper-thread? |
| 15:34.10 | asg | Laser: if that didn't work, just go to http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:34.30 | Fox | MarkH_UK: are you blind or what ? it told you to go to www.dotdeb.org to never a newer version of php4 via apt |
| 15:34.31 | asg | jpinto: boot the smp kernel and see. I don't think it does though. |
| 15:34.45 | jpinto | asg: thanks :) |
| 15:34.57 | jpinto | asg: you mean.. if it boots, then i should stick with it? |
| 15:35.01 | MarkH_UK | Fox, sorry been a long ass day |
| 15:35.03 | Maulkin | MarkH_UK: Or read the buig report and use the bit of code that in it. |
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| 15:35.22 | Fox | s/never/get/ |
| 15:35.23 | asg | jpinto: well, it shouldn't harm anything if it boots. cat /proc/cpuinfo to see if 2 cpus appear. |
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| 15:35.34 | jpinto | asg: ok, thanks |
| 15:36.25 | MarkH_UK | Fox, where is the line i need to add to sources.list? |
| 15:37.03 | MarkH_UK | got it |
| 15:37.20 | Laser | asg, done |
| 15:37.31 | asg | Laser: paste the URL in here |
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| 15:39.38 | Laser | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.23 | De_Mon | how do I manually partition my drive with the current debian installer? these presets 'home' 'media' etc don't work for me |
| 15:40.56 | Laser | asg, sorry about that. there just is a guy here that dosn't leave me alone :) |
| 15:41.06 | asg | Laser: try running dpkg-reconfigure locales (select the suitable one (probably en_US)). |
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| 15:41.47 | yaarg | De_Mon: erm you select manually edit partition table |
| 15:41.55 | MarkH_UK | Fox, how about fixing the issue with gd? |
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| 15:42.01 | MarkH_UK | can that be done using the dotdeb mirror? |
| 15:42.14 | stew | MarkH_UK: which bug# are you referring to? |
| 15:42.21 | MarkH_UK | imagerotate() |
| 15:42.27 | MarkH_UK | the undef function. |
| 15:42.34 | asg | stew: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=298061 |
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| 15:42.57 | Laser | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:42.57 | Laser | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 15:43.08 | stew | MarkH_UK: there is little if any valid reson to use dotdeb these days, since backports.org has php backports |
| 15:43.22 | asg | Laser: what's the output of apt-get -f install? |
| 15:43.30 | MarkH_UK | Fox, its fixed |
| 15:43.34 | lightyear | hi out There |
| 15:43.47 | asg | lightyear: we're in here, you're out there |
| 15:43.51 | Fox | MarkH_UK: cool |
| 15:43.55 | lightyear | i've the problem that libtool is searching for libXrender.la |
| 15:43.56 | MarkH_UK | stew, is it safe to be using that site? |
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| 15:44.05 | asg | MarkH_UK: safer than dotdeb |
| 15:44.05 | MarkH_UK | Also Fox is it security safe? |
| 15:44.08 | lightyear | but in my testing it is not existing (including all packages) |
| 15:44.17 | MarkH_UK | can you point me in the right direction plkease? |
| 15:44.25 | lightyear | now libtool is wrong? |
| 15:44.31 | De_Mon | yaarg That would make sense... Tryin to help someone otp, and I haven't used the new installer :) |
| 15:44.48 | lightyear | but it's the newest version... |
| 15:44.51 | Laser | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3126 |
| 15:44.54 | stew | MarkH_UK: /msg dpkg bpo ; its far safer than using dotdeb |
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| 15:45.37 | madclicker | need help to understand a cron job that amavis runs on etch: "test -e /usr/bin/sa-learn && test -e /usr/sbin/amavisd-new && /usr/bin/sa-learn --sync >/dev/null" |
| 15:45.52 | stew | MarkH_UK: i don't know however if bpo supplies php4 debs, possibly only php5, don't now if that would be a problem for you |
| 15:45.55 | MarkH_UK | anyone else use bckports in here> |
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| 15:46.38 | Fox | MarkH_UK: backports has very few php4 packages, and I use dotdeb on production servers without any security problem |
| 15:46.46 | asg | Laser: okay, first. edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.postinst and put 'exit 0' after the shebang line. Then do 'apt-get -f install'. Then do apt-get remove --purge locales. Then try apt-get install locales. |
| 15:47.02 | MarkH_UK | well, its working |
| 15:47.30 | Fox | I wouldn't say using dotdeb isn't safe as 1/ I know the guy who backports the packages 2/ I the 2nd FR miror listed on dotdeb's website :) |
| 15:48.09 | asg | Fox: that doesn't mean we trust you though :p |
| 15:48.10 | Fox | but it's MY opinion of course |
| 15:48.24 | Fox | I knew I vwould have this king of answer ;) |
| 15:48.25 | Laser | asg, u mean after the last line? |
| 15:48.33 | Fox | argh |
| 15:48.37 | Fox | I knew I would have this kind of answer ;) |
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| 15:49.01 | asg | Laser: no after the #!/bin/sh line at the very begining. The point will be to have the postinst script complete so the package gets installed so you can remove it so you can install it again (hopefully without issue) |
| 15:49.05 | asg | Fox: :) |
| 15:49.06 | Fox | I'm no dd, then why would someone trust me :) |
| 15:49.52 | Laser | asg, i love you {P} :) |
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| 15:49.59 | Zap-W | heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 15:50.01 | asg | Laser: don't love me until it fully works |
| 15:50.07 | MarkH_UK | BPO only supports php5 |
| 15:50.09 | MarkH_UK | so no good to me |
| 15:50.10 | MarkH_UK | :) |
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| 15:50.19 | MarkH_UK | php5 = suck |
| 15:50.19 | Laser | lemme see |
| 15:50.56 | Fox | MarkH_UK: phpX = suck :) |
| 15:50.56 | asg | Laser: and do make sure to remove --purge locales and the install locales |
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| 15:50.59 | asg | *then |
| 15:51.15 | infernix | does anyone know of a tomcat5 backport to sarge? nothing on backports.org |
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| 15:51.49 | infernix | not much on google either, only references to custom compiling. im trying to backport it myself atm |
| 15:52.21 | asg | infernix: there's not much really to backport. It's java so it'll run on any system with a compatible JDK |
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| 15:52.33 | linux86 | hi |
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| 15:52.41 | ofer0 | hi, I'm trying to install PostgreSQL on Debian Sarge, and it doesn't work. Logfile: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CF6XNg47.html |
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| 15:53.12 | asg | ofer0: is this a fresh install of Debian sarge? |
| 15:53.18 | ofer0 | asg, yeap |
| 15:53.23 | linux86 | where i can find old program in debian testing in .deb please? |
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| 15:53.44 | ofer0 | asg, just installed it, just chose other mirrors from apt-setup |
| 15:54.06 | infernix | asg: figured as much, but still the etch package depends on something not available in sarge so im not sure if it'll work well |
| 15:54.11 | Zap-W | is there a linux certification like Redhat's CE? |
| 15:54.12 | asg | ofer0: apt-get update ; apt-get -f install ; apt-get install postgresql |
| 15:54.14 | Fox | sarge version of libperl5.8 is 5.8.4, should be ok then |
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| 15:54.30 | asg | Zap-W: linux+ |
| 15:54.34 | ofer0 | asg, same problem |
| 15:54.42 | asg | ofer0: try apt-get -f install first then |
| 15:54.55 | ofer0 | asg, i copied & pasted what you told me |
| 15:55.04 | asg | ofer0: did it fail on the apt-get update part? |
| 15:55.13 | ofer0 | nope |
| 15:55.42 | ofer0 | maybe I should use a different mirror? |
| 15:55.56 | asg | ofer0: oh, you used aptitude. It probably did something awful. Someone else will have to help with that I'm afraid. |
| 15:56.09 | ofer0 | deb http://mirror.csit.fsu.edu/debian/ stable main |
| 15:56.09 | lightyear | is there a solution for the libtool/libXrender.la-Problem? |
| 15:56.12 | ofer0 | I'm using this mirror |
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| 15:56.18 | charzero | I just accidentally rm -rf'ed /usr/share/doc. Will those just get replaced as i upgrade/reinstall packages? |
| 15:56.38 | ofer0 | asg, I have a strong feeling that it wasn't aptitude |
| 15:57.05 | ofer0 | but thanks anyway |
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| 15:57.51 | Laser | asg, i have no idea what we just did but it worked |
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| 15:57.52 | asg | ofer0: try a different mirror perhaps. The 'E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.' error looks very nasty |
| 15:58.10 | ofer0 | asg, okay |
| 15:58.16 | asg | Laser: you 'unwodged' the installer (Doesn't happen often on stable but does on unstable all the time :) |
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| 15:59.49 | ofer0 | asg, yeah, it was the mirror. |
| 15:59.57 | ofer0 | asg, I switched mirror and then it works |
| 15:59.59 | ofer0 | thanks! |
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| 16:00.34 | asg | ofer0: you're welcome |
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| 16:02.45 | usama | hi all |
| 16:02.53 | usama | has anyone used Rhythmbox? what is the shorcut key for playing next and previous songs? |
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| 16:04.29 | tttyyuii | . |
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| 16:05.35 | k31th | anyone know of a bit of software that will use a modem to pick up a fax and save it to a file ? |
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| 16:06.13 | cds | Does anyone know how I can increase the font in Skype? |
| 16:06.51 | asg | k31th: hylafax |
| 16:06.56 | tttyyuii | k31th: i bet You need asterix. |
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| 16:09.19 | nima | why is nagios concidering everything undeterminable |
| 16:09.24 | nima | not enough data |
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| 16:10.23 | maxer | how come when i do a wget from an apache server running from another machine on an internal network it just runs and runs, |
| 16:10.27 | k31th | asg: cheers |
| 16:10.29 | Fox | nima: doesn't look like a debian related question, does it ? |
| 16:10.38 | k31th | tttyyuii: id of thought asterisk will be a bit of overkill |
| 16:11.03 | nima | Fox, im running nagios on a debian computer :-P |
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| 16:11.19 | Fox | anyway, still not a debian related question at all :) |
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| 16:12.10 | nima | lots of people ask questions about software on debian here |
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| 16:12.48 | asg | nima: there are 56 people in #nagios also |
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| 16:14.31 | Detox | last time i installed debian,,, it took me two days to DL the system as net-isntall |
| 16:14.42 | nima | wow |
| 16:14.51 | nima | are you on dial-up? |
| 16:14.52 | Ronin | Detox: two day? were you on dialup or something? |
| 16:15.00 | Detox | nope dsl |
| 16:15.02 | _stev_ | How do I know if my network card is physically death? Do I get a message somewhere or is there a command to check it out? |
| 16:15.03 | Detox | via sprint |
| 16:15.21 | Fox | nima: lots of people ask "what would you use to do X or Y ?" you ask "I use X, why doesn't it work ?" that's not the same thing |
| 16:15.40 | Fox | going home, bye debian people |
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| 16:16.10 | DebianTUXX | hi. do some one here use adept on debian sid? mine is not working. cant read apt cache |
| 16:16.38 | jetscreamer | !info adept |
| 16:16.41 | dpkg | adept: (package management suite for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 16:16.42 | asg | DebianTUXX: run apt-get update. Why are you using sid anyway? |
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| 16:17.44 | jetscreamer | DebianTUXX: so are you running it as root? you probably need to use gksu or something |
| 16:17.58 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 16:18.02 | DebianTUXX | asg: i always use sid on my desktop. newer packages, diferent problems to solve :-P ... at-get update doesnt solve adept problem. running as root also doesnt solve the problem |
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| 16:18.12 | asg | DebianTUXX: then check the bts |
| 16:18.52 | DebianTUXX | The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem. |
| 16:18.52 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove --purge will fix your woes |
| 16:19.07 | jetscreamer | so did yo udo so |
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| 16:20.03 | jetscreamer | there is no 'trying to run it as root' you have to have root perms to update |
| 16:20.15 | jetscreamer | sudo, su, gksu |
| 16:21.10 | kreg_work | is there a way to tell inetd to bind tftpd to a specifc ip instead of 0.0.0.0 ? |
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| 16:21.41 | asg | kreg_work: try using xinetd instead or just use iptables to block the ips you don't want available |
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| 16:22.53 | kreg_work | asg, i thought of the iptables, but didn't know you could put xinetd in debian |
| 16:23.37 | asg | kreg_work: xinetd is in Debian sarge and unstable. I expect it's also in etch. |
| 16:23.42 | asg | !info xinetd etc |
| 16:23.50 | asg | !info xinetd etch |
| 16:23.51 | stew | there is no etc |
| 16:24.01 | dpkg | xinetd: (replacement for inetd with many enhancements), section net, is extra. Version: 1:2.3.14-1 (etch), Packaged size: 134 kB, Installed size: 360 kB |
| 16:24.02 | peterS | that would be a nice distribution name, etc. |
| 16:24.06 | asg | stew: the 'h' was silent, though the bot wasn't |
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| 16:24.21 | stew | i run debian, etc |
| 16:24.25 | peterS | stew: yeah |
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| 16:24.53 | peterS | stew: "I have experience with RH9, FC4, SUSE10, etc" |
| 16:25.22 | stew | maybe the release after etc could be also |
| 16:25.30 | asg | or 'meh' |
| 16:25.35 | benno2 | hi, anyone knows how many MBytes a debian with X11 and firefox (no gnome/kde needed) uses ? |
| 16:25.40 | kreg_work | so debian isn't going to "hate my philosophy" if i install xinetd |
| 16:25.43 | peterS | actually I think 'btw' would be a good code name |
| 16:25.45 | asg | benno2: less than 1G |
| 16:25.47 | benno2 | I'd like to build some sort of kiosk |
| 16:25.48 | peterS | "I run Debian btw" |
| 16:25.54 | asg | kreg_work: no, why would it? |
| 16:26.16 | mith | kreg_work: but no packages come with xinetd entries, they all update inetd.conf |
| 16:26.21 | benno2 | asg: I wanted to use a flash disk with 1GB and keep some space for other files so it would be ideal if it used up only 700-800MB max |
| 16:26.44 | stew | benno2: i am working on making a usbkey install and found that with the laptop task and a basic xfce4 desktop environment + firefox and a few others it comes in just below 1G |
| 16:26.44 | peterS | the release after etc and btw might be ftw |
| 16:26.50 | kreg_work | maybe i can just find a tftp server that is stand alone |
| 16:26.54 | asg | benno2: you should be able to fit it in as long as your window manager is light |
| 16:27.09 | asg | peterS: or fwiw |
| 16:27.34 | asg | kreg_work: since tftp is a horrid thing to begin with, I'd just use iptables from the get go. |
| 16:27.54 | charzero | Doesn't DSL do it in 50M? |
| 16:28.17 | peterS | charzero: I think you're thinking of the installation files, not the live system |
| 16:29.01 | asg | peterS: personally I like "I'm running Debian wtf?" |
| 16:29.23 | stew | debian hand, debian kthx |
| 16:29.43 | asg | stew: the have a nice day release would be primo |
| 16:30.00 | peterS | asg: that's almost like codenaming a release 'Figure 1' |
| 16:30.22 | peterS | which, come to think of it, might be a little bit awesome |
| 16:30.25 | asg | hehe |
| 16:30.27 | cahoot | ubuntu would then be Debian afaik |
| 16:30.34 | peterS | cahoot: heh |
| 16:30.34 | asg | or Debian afk |
| 16:30.51 | charzero | So I'm not going to get X and twm on 250M, huh? |
| 16:30.59 | peterS | whereas linspire would release debian lolz? |
| 16:31.07 | asg | peterS: thought that was Xandros |
| 16:31.14 | peterS | oh, could be |
| 16:31.19 | asg | charzero: if you remove /usr/share/doc/* cruft, you might be able to |
| 16:31.32 | stew | cruft, huh? |
| 16:31.42 | charzero | will debian let you install without a swap partition? |
| 16:31.43 | asg | stew: not to me, but nobody else seems to read it |
| 16:31.45 | stew | :) |
| 16:32.38 | peterS | charzero: if you ask nicely |
| 16:32.58 | peterS | charzero: so long as you have at least, I dunno, 32 MB of RAM or so, I don't think it pitches much of a fit |
| 16:33.18 | stew | you need 32 for the installer to run at all, afaik |
| 16:33.24 | peterS | I'm not sure if it can still install in 16 MB without swap - I suspect not. it should _boot_ in that much RAM though, after it's installed |
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| 16:33.45 | stew | peterS: according to don the package dependency graph needs on the order or 24 megs |
| 16:33.53 | peterS | ahh, quite possibly true |
| 16:34.00 | yang | I am wondering if there is any software that can read musical data on DDS tapes on DDS streamer, which were recorded on a DAT audio rack ? |
| 16:34.05 | TAHK | USAMA IT MY NICK |
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| 16:34.23 | abrotman | this should go well |
| 16:34.25 | stew | TAHK: do you have any debian related questions? |
| 16:34.33 | peterS | yang: can the hardware even do that? |
| 16:34.39 | nima | charzero, why not? |
| 16:34.51 | yang | peterS: i don´t know... |
| 16:35.03 | nima | but if you run out if memory, it will start killing off processes |
| 16:35.05 | benno2 | asg: thanks |
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| 16:35.34 | peterS | stew: I run Debian omg |
| 16:35.42 | stew | omg? me too! |
| 16:35.49 | jetscreamer | what is debian |
| 16:35.55 | peterS | omg, that is the _best_ release ever |
| 16:36.18 | nima | jetscreamer, debian.org |
| 16:36.27 | peterS | like, omg, everyone should upgrade to it |
| 16:36.29 | charzero | does it run on windows me? |
| 16:36.36 | jetscreamer | i don't have any intarweb! |
| 16:36.37 | abrotman | !colinux |
| 16:36.38 | dpkg | i heard colinux is http://colinux.org/. Cooperative Linux is the first working free and open source method for optimally running Linux on Microsoft Windows natively. More generally, Cooperative Linux (short-named coLinux) is a port of the Linux kernel that allows it to run cooperatively alongside another operating system on a single machine. For instance, it allows one to freely run Linux on Windows 2000/XP, without using a commercial PC ... |
| 16:37.22 | stew | peterS: i'm already running debian omg, hand, kthx |
| 16:37.22 | nima | ew |
| 16:37.26 | nima | windows me |
| 16:37.36 | jetscreamer | real men run pot(ato) |
| 16:37.39 | peterS | stew: r0x0r |
| 16:37.46 | nima | !debian |
| 16:37.46 | dpkg | [debian] http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 16:37.58 | nima | well, i geuss that wont help yu, jetscreamer |
| 16:38.10 | jetscreamer | i'm a troll |
| 16:38.23 | peterS | whats a troll |
| 16:38.23 | jetscreamer | a lurking troll |
| 16:38.28 | jetscreamer | oh wait i'm a trool |
| 16:38.38 | asg | peterS: sid should be named to rtfm |
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| 16:39.16 | peterS | asg: or possibly pwned |
| 16:39.17 | daxxar | Hm, where can I find mysqli for php5/debian unstable? |
| 16:39.22 | asg | peterS: or even rofl |
| 16:39.36 | peterS | asg: if 'pwned' does not scare people away from sid who shouldn't be using it, I don't know what would |
| 16:39.48 | asg | peterS: that's a good point |
| 16:40.03 | asg | lurker99: nah, just #debian on a lunch break |
| 16:40.14 | peterS | lunch breaks sometimes last awhile |
| 16:40.22 | peterS | we kind of cheat the clock |
| 16:40.34 | zinx | debian broken |
| 16:40.52 | Ronin | not here zinx it works fine |
| 16:40.54 | zinx | that'd work better |
| 16:41.03 | zinx | Ronin: 'broken' instead of 'sid' |
| 16:41.14 | Ronin | ahh heh |
| 16:42.12 | mz_work | err his |
| 16:43.03 | rshakin | hey how do i fix a broken package since it's only partially installed... |
| 16:43.20 | peterS | stew: next I think I'll upgrade to the new release o_O |
| 16:43.43 | asg | rshakin: if apt-get -f install doesn't fix it, then you'll have to hack the broken /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pkg>.{pre,post}{rm,inst} file and try again. |
| 16:44.15 | rshakin | ok thanx.... i am going to try to force it and reinstall |
| 16:44.24 | rshakin | sorry new to debian |
| 16:44.26 | jetscreamer | try the fix-unmet factoid before the script hacking but after the -f install |
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| 16:45.05 | asg | rshakin: if you are not running Debian 3.1, check the bts (/msg dpkg bts) and file appropriate bugs if none exist for the particular problem you are having. |
| 16:45.06 | runokiab | hi |
| 16:46.38 | rshakin | asg... i am going to paste my output in flood |
| 16:46.54 | asg | rshakin: use the paster instead, I'm not in #flood |
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| 16:48.52 | jeward | I have ~200 debian servers. Is there a tool out there to summarize which machines need what updates? |
| 16:49.20 | rshakin | asg http://channels.debian.net/paste/3127 |
| 16:49.24 | runokiab | under SID I removed the udev package, because the updated version did not work with my kernel version. I rebooted and installed the last version out of /var/cache/apt/archives. Now the device handling does not work properly. ifconfig shows no network devices |
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| 16:50.16 | asg | rshakin: well, you could always 'touch /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template' and try again |
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| 16:50.42 | foo | Anyone know of a client I can use to access terminal services on a win2k server? |
| 16:50.49 | asg | foo: rdesktop |
| 16:51.24 | rshakin | i think i tried that last nigt but i will try again... if the file dosent exist |
| 16:51.32 | foo | asg: ah, thanks |
| 16:51.51 | charzero | Can i remove base-config after installation is complete? |
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| 16:52.08 | asg | rshakin: otherwise, etc /var/lib/dpkg/info/exim4-config.postinst, put 'exit 0' after the shebang line and try again. |
| 16:52.20 | asg | s/etc/edit/ |
| 16:52.24 | jeward | I have ~200 debian servers. Is there a tool out there to |
| 16:52.25 | jeward | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.48 | asg | jeward: use cron-apt to get nightly updates and email you the output so you can go and install them |
| 16:53.00 | pourriture_ | I am about to make-kpkg kernel-image to build a new kernel image on an SMP machine (it is already running an smp kernel) do I need to change anything to optimize the number of concurrent processes that make will do? |
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| 16:53.10 | tttyyuii | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 16:53.10 | dpkg | i heard sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 16:53.30 | jeward | asg: I was hoping there was some reporting system so we could examine what packages are needed before we just install and perhaps break 200 servers. |
| 16:53.37 | stew | tttyyuii: please /msg the bot if its not relevant to discussion |
| 16:53.39 | xsappyx | foo: there is a pretty good gtk frontend for rdesktop called tsclient you might want to check out too |
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| 16:53.59 | asg | jeward: that is the reporting system. It downloads the packages and tells you which ones it downloaded. Then, you eval them somewhere and, if they are fine, install them. |
| 16:54.45 | foo | xsappyx: thanks |
| 16:54.55 | asg | jeward: while cron-apt can do auto-installs, it isn't advised and not enabled by default. However, downloading needed updates to /var/cache/apt/archives is harmless. |
| 16:55.16 | rshakin | asg it worked thank you... when i did it last night i wrote it the wrong dir |
| 16:55.24 | jeward | asg: On a machine by machine basis? I was hoping for a listing of machines by package needed and package with machines listing all the packages they need. |
| 16:56.03 | asg | jeward: another approach that I've used it so have all my machines use a local repository (or groups of repositories) and do auto-installs from those. Then Only tested packages get placed in them and they get auto-installed/updated. |
| 16:56.09 | asg | bl0w: turn that off please |
| 16:56.19 | jeward | asg: That's what we want to do. |
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| 16:57.06 | asg | jeward: well, it shouldn't be too hard to whip up a script connect to each machine, get the output of apt-get update, parse it, shove it in some database / file, and generate a report from that. |
| 16:57.14 | jeward | asg: Our initial idea was to have the machinces check against debian to see what's available and then upgrade against our repository where we would release the packages we have tested. |
| 16:57.55 | jeward | asg: I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel. I thought maybe it was a known tool already written. |
| 16:58.09 | daxxar | Is there any package for the php-extension mysqli for php5/debian unstable? It seems there was a php5-mysqli, but that it has been removed? |
| 16:58.26 | asg | jeward: I'm not aware of one, we always just rolled our own. |
| 16:58.49 | jeward | asg: Got one lying around I can see? :-0 |
| 16:59.05 | jetscreamer | don't use webmin |
| 16:59.11 | jetscreamer | or so the factoid says |
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| 17:00.54 | trym|work | has anyone gotten snmp working with the lsi megaraid sas? (dell perc 5e) |
| 17:01.05 | runokiab | ifconfig does not show me any device anymore but iifconfig -a does but all the device names have an _ifre at the end for example wlan0_ifr. What does that mean? |
| 17:01.39 | runokiab | seems to mean "ifrename" |
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| 17:08.25 | charzero | I got debian with X on 216M, but the only x app is xterm. |
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| 17:11.24 | Vasistha | charzero: heh, I'm running KDE on 192 MB |
| 17:11.35 | zinx | back in the day, i fit slack+X+full C/C++ dev environment+enlightenment+xmms+who knows what else... on a "100M" zip disk |
| 17:11.52 | zinx | Vasistha: i'm hoping charzero means permanent space, not ram |
| 17:11.57 | Vasistha | oh, you're referring to a CD, rather than RAM |
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| 17:12.43 | stew | bl0w: please turn your away messages off in here |
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| 17:13.39 | charzero | I removed exim, loggers, cron, /usr/share/doc, aptitude, manpages, man-db |
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| 17:15.34 | stew | charzero: loggers? like sysklogd? |
| 17:15.46 | charzero | stew: yes |
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| 17:16.19 | stew | hmm, i should consider that for the the system i'm building, i think i assumed that it would have a lot of dependent packages |
| 17:17.32 | charzero | Its enough to boot off the usb stick, and ssh -X to my system. |
| 17:18.05 | stew | charzero: out of curiosity, what is the application you are building this for? |
| 17:19.27 | charzero | stew: so if i'm without my computer, i can boot the usb drive and ssh -X to one of my machines at home. |
| 17:19.33 | stew | ahh |
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| 17:20.00 | stew | charzero: on a 256m usb? |
| 17:20.05 | charzero | stew: yup. |
| 17:20.11 | Exodus | oh, i have a copycat. =b ( _eXoDuS ) |
| 17:20.17 | charzero | stew: (and because i can) |
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| 17:20.23 | Exodus | hey, is anyone having trouble with pen drives? |
| 17:20.30 | pythos | Im having a situation where my bind9 is accessable from my local environmnet, but not from the internet as a whole. ANyone seen similar? -- this is on a box with a static IP, and can be ping'd from anywhere on the 'net. |
| 17:20.35 | Exodus | my pen doesn't automount. |
| 17:20.46 | stew | Exodus: what are you using to automount it? |
| 17:20.52 | Exodus | dmesg shows some trouble... |
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| 17:21.11 | Exodus | stew, gnome-volume-manager doesn't mount it, and manual mounting doesn't either. |
| 17:21.19 | stew | pythos: is 53/udp open to the outside world? |
| 17:21.29 | stew | Exodus: can you pastebin the dmesg output? |
| 17:21.36 | Exodus | i have gentoo on another partition and i can mount it perfectly. |
| 17:21.43 | Exodus | yeah give me a sec i'll pastebin it |
| 17:21.48 | pythos | stew: looking, sec |
| 17:22.40 | Exodus | http://pastebin.ca/86172 stew |
| 17:23.32 | pythos | stew, I do see that it is listed in /etc/services |
| 17:23.41 | stew | Exodus: hrm |
| 17:23.46 | Exodus | i don't know if CUMANA/ADFS <--- is a File System... |
| 17:23.48 | stew | Exodus: is it partitioned? |
| 17:23.59 | Exodus | Cause if it is, it's being wrongly identified.. |
| 17:24.12 | Exodus | stew, my pen is fat32 formated |
| 17:24.15 | Exodus | only one partition |
| 17:24.16 | stew | Exodus: like is it possible that its mountable as /dev/sda and there isn't really a /dev/sda1 |
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| 17:24.54 | Exodus | nop |
| 17:24.57 | stew | pythos: yes, but /etc/services is just a list of well known services. it has no relationhsip to what services might actually be running or available |
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| 17:25.25 | Exodus | and it's strange because in gentoo it just mounts with no problem. |
| 17:25.27 | pythos | hmm, riget then: what netstat -rn ?? |
| 17:25.34 | stew | Exodus: does "fdisk -l" look similarly confused? |
| 17:25.41 | Exodus | let me check |
| 17:25.46 | pythos | hmm, no |
| 17:25.51 | Exodus | nop |
| 17:25.57 | stew | pythos: yes, but if you can query it from the inside, then the daemon must be running, i was after whether or not it could be a firewall issue |
| 17:26.00 | Exodus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.00 | Exodus | /dev/sda1 * 1 7840 2007008+ b W95 FAT32 |
| 17:26.01 | trym|work | Jul 12 22:23:41 localhost MegaRAID SNMP AGENT: Error in getting Shared Memory(percmain) |
| 17:26.03 | trym|work | what could be causing that? |
| 17:26.25 | pythos | stew: well I see no listing of rules with iptables -L |
| 17:26.39 | Exodus | but there is another device... |
| 17:26.40 | stew | pythos: how were you testing this from outside? |
| 17:26.44 | Exodus | which is really strange stew.. |
| 17:26.47 | Exodus | it says this: |
| 17:26.54 | Exodus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.54 | Exodus | /dev/sda1p1 * 1 7840 2007008+ b W95 FAT32 |
| 17:27.02 | pythos | stew: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools |
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| 17:27.07 | stew | bl0w: please turn that off |
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| 17:27.32 | Exodus | stew, it seems it's detecting the pen in a very weird way.. |
| 17:27.38 | Exodus | this is part of fdisk -l: |
| 17:27.49 | Exodus | Disk /dev/sda: 2055 MB, 2055208960 bytes |
| 17:27.49 | Exodus | Disk /dev/sda1: 2082.3 GB, 2082317979648 bytes |
| 17:28.09 | Exodus | like if /dev/sda1 were a disk instead of partition |
| 17:28.11 | stew | yeah |
| 17:28.22 | stew | and /sda1p1 is a partition on that disk? |
| 17:28.30 | Exodus | nop |
| 17:28.40 | stew | pythos: what is the ip address of the nameserver in question? |
| 17:28.43 | Exodus | doens't appear, just sda, and sda1 |
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| 17:29.11 | Exodus | i'll pastebin "fdisk -l" sda complete reference |
| 17:30.01 | Exodus | http://pastebin.ca/86213 stew |
| 17:30.24 | stoned | g'morning' |
| 17:31.15 | stew | pythos: i can access that nameserver from here without problems |
| 17:31.18 | Exodus | morning to you stoned, though it's 1:34pm here in Venezuela. |
| 17:31.26 | stoned | \:) |
| 17:32.02 | pythos | stew Hmmm... that is wierd |
| 17:32.36 | Exodus | how do i save volume settings? like, alsactl or anything like that for debian? |
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| 17:32.49 | stew | Exodus: which settings? |
| 17:32.58 | Exodus | volume settings.. |
| 17:33.03 | Exodus | it's muted every login |
| 17:33.03 | mal_ | is there a default dir in *nix for building apps in, like Program Files in Windows? |
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| 17:33.13 | stew | Exodus: i think the answer to your question is "configure udev" |
| 17:33.28 | stew | Exodus: unless you mean something g-v-m specific, but i dont' know anything about that |
| 17:33.39 | Exodus | stew, how do you think i should? |
| 17:33.44 | Exodus | configure udev |
| 17:33.51 | Exodus | cause i try mounting it manually and it won't |
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| 17:33.57 | Exodus | maybe it's kernel thing too.. |
| 17:33.58 | stew | Exodus: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:34.06 | Exodus | i'm just trying to mount it |
| 17:34.08 | stew | Exodus: like what setting are you trying to make? |
| 17:34.19 | Exodus | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda |
| 17:34.28 | stew | Exodus: does that succeeed? |
| 17:34.37 | Exodus | stew for volume, i just want to to not reset to all mute |
| 17:34.44 | Exodus | stew nop |
| 17:34.48 | Exodus | doesn't mount |
| 17:34.52 | stew | Exodus: does /dev/sda1p1 succeed? |
| 17:34.52 | Exodus | says wrong FS |
| 17:35.04 | Exodus | doesn't exist. |
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| 17:35.37 | stew | oh, then maybe you need to configure udev to create /dev/sda1p1 |
| 17:35.52 | _eXoDuS | Exodus: copycat? |
| 17:35.56 | Exodus | i'm going to try and format it..dunno, a friend of mine said debian was sensitive to partitions.. |
| 17:36.09 | Exodus | _eXoDuS, jeje..just joking =b |
| 17:36.17 | _eXoDuS | Exodus: i know :) |
| 17:36.18 | Exodus | _eXoDuS, nice nick ;) |
| 17:36.24 | _eXoDuS | lol |
| 17:36.27 | stew | Exodus: does your gentoo use udev? |
| 17:36.35 | Exodus | stew, yes.. |
| 17:36.36 | _eXoDuS | have had the same nick for like 7 years, i've seen many copycats around :p |
| 17:36.38 | stew | Exodus: what version of udev do you have? what about gentoo? |
| 17:36.40 | ivan_ | does anyone can recommend an app for data base modeling, avoid fabforce or mysql-workbench ? |
| 17:36.57 | Exodus | i have a dbus, hal, usbutil, gnome-volume-manager setup in gentoo for automounting to desktop |
| 17:37.12 | Exodus | gentoo is 2006.0 amd64 |
| 17:37.15 | Exodus | latest udev |
| 17:37.23 | Exodus | i just updated all my packages.. |
| 17:37.33 | Exodus | rebooted so udev could refresh and nothing. |
| 17:37.54 | stew | Exodus: what version of udev do you have installed? |
| 17:38.11 | Exodus | 0.091-1 udev |
| 17:38.19 | Exodus | 0.093-1 udev*** |
| 17:38.19 | stew | that's not latest for any of the debian versions |
| 17:38.34 | Exodus | debian etch |
| 17:38.54 | Exodus | is it old? |
| 17:39.09 | Exodus | i use national deb mirror |
| 17:39.19 | stew | Exodus: you might try "/msg dpkg fresh udev config" you also might try backing up /etc/udev and using /etc/udev from your gentoo to see if that works for you. otherwise you should maybe look into getting udev to create /dev/sda1p1 for you |
| 17:39.30 | stew | Exodus: .093-1 isn't old 0.91-1 is |
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| 17:40.11 | Exodus | stew, well, thanks, i kind of thought that, but, was hoping someone ran into the problem already. |
| 17:40.16 | Exodus | stew, thanks =D |
| 17:40.35 | maxxle | I have here a useraccount 'fake' that has /bin/false and /home/fake. Is this a dummy user for an application? Can't remember that i've created it?!? |
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| 17:40.58 | stoned | maxedout, I don't think its default |
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| 17:41.04 | stoned | maxxle, ^^ |
| 17:41.15 | LoneShadow | Hi |
| 17:41.16 | LoneShadow | firebird:/etc/init.d# /usr/sbin/mysqld |
| 17:41.16 | LoneShadow | 060712 10:41:02 Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied |
| 17:41.17 | stoned | afaik, there is no 'fake' username |
| 17:41.19 | stew | maxxle: if it was created by a package, you should be able to figure out which by grepping for "fake" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*postinst |
| 17:41.27 | LoneShadow | is there some default firewall ? |
| 17:41.37 | shazow | How do I install a site package to a specific version of python? I have python2.3 and python2.4 installed, `python` points to 2.3, when i try to install psycopg (apt-get install python-psycopg) it installs it to /usr/lib/python2.3, but I need it to install for 2.4... Any ideas? |
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| 17:41.46 | xst | Can I somehow detect if a remote ssh-user types anything? |
| 17:41.54 | stew | LoneShadow: no a unix socket isn't network based, its a special file |
| 17:42.01 | stew | bl0w: please turn that off |
| 17:42.03 | LoneShadow | aah |
| 17:42.05 | stoned | xst, thats the point of ssh, you're not supposed to be able to see |
| 17:42.11 | stoned | secure* shell |
| 17:42.13 | stoned | remember |
| 17:42.14 | stoned | :) |
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| 17:42.47 | stoned | even if you were to sniff the ssh traffic, it would still be encrypted |
| 17:42.47 | LoneShadow | stew: thanks, found the problem "asterisk asterisk 4096 Jun 6 09:48 mysqld |
| 17:42.50 | stew | LoneShadow: look for the socket directive in /etc/mysql/my.cnf for the location its trying to use, perhaps the parent directory doesn't exist or doesn't have sufficient privileges |
| 17:42.54 | cds | Can anyone help me with sound |
| 17:42.55 | cds | ? |
| 17:42.59 | shazow | xst: you can try monitoring the ssh port with a pocket sniffer.. you'll see what's being sent, but it'll be encrypted |
| 17:43.01 | stoned | cds, what is the problem... |
| 17:43.02 | maxxle | stew: I will grep for it - thx |
| 17:43.03 | stew | cds: just ask |
| 17:43.06 | Ronin | cds: not tillyou tell us the problem |
| 17:43.14 | stoned | !ask |
| 17:43.14 | LoneShadow | stupid asterisk@home changed owner for /var/run/mysqld |
| 17:43.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:43.18 | cds | Most of my stuff (expect one or two players) use OSS, which isn't working. |
| 17:43.24 | cds | (I was typing the question ;) |
| 17:43.39 | cds | Does anyone know of a mentod to make everything use xine? |
| 17:43.42 | stew | cds: "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and add snd-pcm-oss to /etc/modules |
| 17:44.01 | stoned | cds, thats application dependant. some apps can use it, some can't |
| 17:44.03 | stew | cds: (assumming that you have a working alsa configuration) |
| 17:44.16 | cds | Hm.. where is modprobe in apt? |
| 17:44.25 | cds | stoned: Oh :/ |
| 17:44.26 | xst | stoned: I'm root on the server so when the data hits the tty, they aren't encrypted anymore |
| 17:44.32 | stoned | its a *sbin* command |
| 17:44.39 | stoned | you need to modprobe thigns as root or sudo |
| 17:45.11 | xst | shazow: ok. But are there no way to monitor the users tty or something similar? |
| 17:45.18 | cds | Aha, I keep forgetting sbin isn't in my path. |
| 17:45.20 | cds | Thanks. |
| 17:45.34 | shazow | xst: good question, never tried.. I'd imagine there is but I can't think of it |
| 17:45.41 | ceplma | Can anybody tell me, how adept_notifier gets updated package lists? Is there some cron task which does it? It seems to me (from looking at the code) that adept_notifier actually doesn't connect to the Internet, just checks whether packages are newer than before. |
| 17:45.46 | cds | Ok, that brings up nothing. |
| 17:45.52 | stew | cds: no news is good news |
| 17:45.57 | xst | shazow: ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:45.57 | cds | Does that mean I need to install something? |
| 17:45.58 | geemark | what is the "generally accepted" timeout for emails among the mail servers out there? I need to take down my mailserver a number of days, and need to know how long it is "safe" to take it down - delayed email is acceptable, dropped mails are bad |
| 17:46.04 | stoned | cds, su -c "modproble blahhere" |
| 17:46.06 | shazow | xst: I suppose you could modify their shell so that it records logs of anything they input and then passes it on to the actual shell ;) |
| 17:46.07 | stoned | then enter password |
| 17:46.07 | stew | cds: no that means it worked, try your sound app again |
| 17:46.13 | cds | geemark: I usually find 3 days. |
| 17:46.21 | stoned | cds, if you output, then it modprobed fine |
| 17:46.31 | stoned | if no error* output |
| 17:46.40 | stoned | doh, I'm gonna go sell my books at school |
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| 17:47.56 | cds | Aha, thanks guys :) |
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| 17:48.10 | stew | cds: make sure to add it to /etc/modules |
| 17:48.19 | cds | That command? |
| 17:48.26 | stew | cds: no, just "snd-pcm-oss" |
| 17:48.51 | cds | Ah, ok. |
| 17:48.51 | geemark | cds: that goes for mailing lists too (various project user-lists)? they work through traditional mail servers? |
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| 17:49.30 | xst | How can I convert a file to UTF-8 in emacs? When I press C-c ret f utf-8 the status line changes to "uuu:**". But if I save the buffer, exit emacs and reopens it again, the file has changed back to "uul". What to do? |
| 17:49.38 | cds | geemark: Hm.. I've never administrated a mailing list server. |
| 17:49.44 | shazow | Anyone know how to install a python sitepackage like psycopg into a specific version of python? (/usr/lib/python2.4 instead of /usr/lib/python2.3) |
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| 17:49.54 | cds | geemark: Isn't the list archived anyway? |
| 17:50.01 | cds | geemark: If it is, you're not missing anything :) |
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| 17:50.20 | geemark | cds: good point :D |
| 17:50.29 | stew | shazow: aptitude install python2.4-psycopg |
| 17:50.41 | jonnylamb | LOL- i was just asked to help my dad with his laptop (running debian, of course) as df -h showed 100% usage on the root partition. i narrowed the space down to ~/.xsession-errors which was 5.1GB!! |
| 17:50.47 | cds | geemark: It all depends on the server though, the sysadmen can easily change the setting. |
| 17:51.18 | shazow | stew: which source is that under? It can't find it |
| 17:51.54 | geemark | cds: i know, I'm just trying to guess how bad it's going to be - how much I'll miss |
| 17:52.10 | cds | geemark: Ah, ok :) |
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| 17:52.34 | ZeeWolf | hello |
| 17:52.50 | stew | shazow: oh, actually that doesn't exist anymore, so nevermind. the answer is that you cannot without altering the source package |
| 17:52.59 | stew | shazow: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:53.07 | shazow | stew: sarge |
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| 17:53.25 | ZeeWolf | i want to install grub on cd, and when i do that, and update my kernel, will i have to burn new grub-cd with updated menu.lst ?? |
| 17:53.26 | stew | shazow: there is no 2.4 version availble for sarge |
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| 17:53.38 | kurumin | bom dia |
| 17:53.38 | shazow | stew: so what's my best course of action? |
| 17:53.43 | kurumin | piguins!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:53.52 | stew | kurumin: do you have any debian related questions? |
| 17:54.04 | shazow | stew: can I install it manually from source, or am I better off upgrading debian? |
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| 17:54.48 | kurumin | stew:i am sorry, channel incorrect! |
| 17:54.52 | ne78 | debian.org hacked ? |
| 17:55.36 | Ronin | just because its not responding doesnt mean its been hacked ne78 |
| 17:55.37 | stew | shazow: hmm, i would certainly recommend installing it from source or just recompiling the debian source over upgrading debian just for this |
| 17:55.42 | stew | ne78: no, why? |
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| 17:56.06 | stew | ne78: gluck, a machine that runs lots of debian.org's web services is down for maintenence |
| 17:56.20 | LoneShadow | what is the minimum amount of space required to get X working ? |
| 17:56.24 | shazow | brb |
| 17:56.35 | ne78 | stew yes because it was compromised |
| 17:56.52 | Ronin | ne78: got any proof of that? url for example |
| 17:57.06 | LoneShadow | I have a 1GB compact flash card, wondering if I can store some lite packages like icewm,... |
| 17:57.08 | ne78 | Ronin: debian-devel mailing list |
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| 17:57.31 | stew | ne78: ahh, didn't realize that |
| 17:57.36 | stew | ne78: do you have a url or msgid? |
| 17:57.55 | ne78 | stew: Message-ID: <874pxmemvn.fsf@pasta.gloaming.local> |
| 17:58.08 | ne78 | stew: From: James Troup <james@nocrew.org> |
| 17:58.24 | mtomczak | Random efficiency question, but maybe someone knows: So I solved the Samba problems we've been having by ditching it in favor of FTP, since we were only using the file transfer aspect anyway... |
| 17:59.12 | mtomczak | This is working well for our Windows guys: they log in via the Windows explorer and everything behaves the same as it did under Samba. Except that there's this big lag the first time you log in. |
| 17:59.22 | mtomczak | Does anyone know what the system is doing in that time period? |
| 18:00.16 | stew | mtomczak: ftp has to do a minmum of 10 round trips before a transfer can happen. its a very inneficient protocol |
| 18:00.19 | stew | !ftpmustdie |
| 18:00.25 | stew | hmm |
| 18:00.40 | stew | there is a factoid somewhere |
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| 18:01.20 | mtomczak | I'd believe it :) In fact, it's working BETTER than I remembered... I used to log into sites via OS X's file browser, and that was a terrific way to kill the GUI's responsiveness. |
| 18:01.33 | ne78 | stew: acutally it is announce http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce |
| 18:01.41 | mtomczak | !ftp must die |
| 18:01.43 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
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| 18:02.18 | ne78 | Does ftp-ssl encapsulate the data connection ? |
| 18:02.20 | stew | !ftpmustdie is <reply>see ftp must die |
| 18:02.20 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 18:02.53 | mtomczak | Good. This is helpful. Thanks! |
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| 18:03.36 | mtomczak | What other protocols might I be able to support via the windows explorer? I know it handles ftp and samba for remote file access... is there anything faster it handles? |
| 18:04.14 | mtomczak | I had to ditch the samba because I couldn't make sense of the error messages... apparently, "You're logged in more than once" sometimes means "Your password is wrong; you're not logged in anywhere." :-p |
| 18:04.46 | stew | !gluck compromise is it was discovered that gluck.debian.org which hosts many web services for debian.org was recently compromised, please refer to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00003.html |
| 18:04.46 | dpkg | stew: okay |
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| 18:05.13 | cr3 | when installing an ltsp machine, should I install it as a server or a desktop so that all the applications are readily available? |
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| 18:05.52 | Smerdyakov | How do I find out which package is responsible for a file? |
| 18:06.00 | Exodus | stew, you there? it seems it's a problem with my memorex pen |
| 18:06.12 | stew | hi |
| 18:06.16 | Exodus | i've been searching the web on forums and stuff |
| 18:06.24 | stew | Smerdyakov: dpkg -S filename ; or dlocate filename |
| 18:06.45 | Exodus | and it seems in ubuntu they have same problem, with memorex and kingston traveler pens |
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| 18:07.26 | stew | Exodus: perhaps a newer kernel would fix it? what kernel is your gentoo running? |
| 18:07.44 | Exodus | 2.6.16 |
| 18:07.50 | Exodus | and i got 2.6.15 here |
| 18:08.01 | Exodus | i think kernel would fix it |
| 18:08.05 | Exodus | but were can i get 2.6.16? |
| 18:08.12 | Exodus | i can't find it with synaptics |
| 18:08.20 | Exodus | synaptic* |
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| 18:09.16 | Smerdyakov | stew, thanks |
| 18:09.34 | stew | Exodus: you could get 2.6.17 from sid |
| 18:11.34 | sdsd | i get this error while trying to send to hotmail R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host |
| 18:11.42 | sdsd | what does this mean |
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| 18:12.04 | Exodus | stew, can you give me source.list line for sid? |
| 18:12.23 | Exodus | i change etch for sid in source.list? |
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| 18:13.07 | stew | Exodus: "/msg dpkg quick etch/sid mix" <- that should allow you to only grab a package or two from unstable |
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| 18:14.56 | _Krusty_ | hi |
| 18:15.03 | grendal_prime | (II) I810(0): 4 kBytes additional video memory is required to enable DRI. |
| 18:15.09 | _Krusty_ | any program to restore a deleted ext3 partition? |
| 18:15.15 | xav_ | I'm trying to patch a package following the howto here : http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 18:15.16 | Exodus | thanks stew |
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| 18:15.48 | xav_ | however the patch I tried to build fails to apply. and pbuilder cleans the environment, so I can't even see the log with the error |
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| 18:16.58 | kreg_work | anyone know what option dhcp-parameter-request-list does? i can explain it, but i have no idea what values to give it. |
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| 18:17.39 | xav_ | it's very annoying, how can I tell pbuilder to keep the informations ? |
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| 18:18.03 | piper69 | morning all |
| 18:18.06 | xav_ | I've no idea why the patching fails |
| 18:18.40 | userter | Hi! Could anybody help me how can i make 3d acceleration onto a laptop, which has got intel 82852 / 82855 graphics card ( or where should i ask for it?). |
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| 18:19.12 | stoned | userter, unless the card itself supports 3d acceleration, you can't get it. I am not familiar with that particular card, so I can't say |
| 18:19.15 | xav_ | debian is a royal pita. you can't even easily apply a patch to a package.. |
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| 18:19.49 | stoned | xav_, ease is a relativer term. Don't blame debian for stuff you don't know how to do, or don't find easy |
| 18:20.13 | Coweater | does the patch apply to the official tree even? |
| 18:20.32 | piper69 | i'm trying to download a file tar.gz and i get no permission to write, can i get help on how to chmod for my current user |
| 18:20.46 | asg | piper69: man chown |
| 18:20.52 | asg | piper69: and man chmod |
| 18:20.54 | stoned | piper69, man chmod, man chown, man chgrp |
| 18:20.57 | lex | I need to ask questions about iproute2 and theres no channel for that... Ok... i have a situation where i have one big internal network and three uplinks... it seems that everything works (using netfilter mark+ iproute2), i mark some src ip's that are supposed to go through router A, they get routed okay and all... here is the question: |
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| 18:21.10 | stoned | asg, hey man |
| 18:21.14 | stoned | whats goin on |
| 18:21.32 | asg | stoned: frobbed my back yesterday so I'm on the couch with a beer :) |
| 18:21.35 | stoned | ahh |
| 18:21.39 | piper69 | asg: stoned : thank you guys |
| 18:21.40 | asg | lex: #networking is another resource you might consult |
| 18:21.42 | stoned | that sucks man, hope you feel better soon |
| 18:21.47 | lex | asg, Ah...thanks |
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| 18:21.56 | stoned | asg, just curious though mate, how come you shortenened the nick |
| 18:22.04 | asg | stoned: yeah, me too since mrs. asg is in mexico city and I don't have any help |
| 18:22.14 | asg | stoned: I've been asg since 2003 |
| 18:22.28 | asg | stoned: I had another nick before then but someone stole it ;) |
| 18:22.34 | myren | will kernel-source packages include debian patches? |
| 18:22.37 | stoned | scarynetworkguy was stolen |
| 18:22.39 | stoned | i'll be damned |
| 18:22.47 | asg | stoned: no, he's sng. I'm asg |
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| 18:22.59 | myren | and do the debian patches include the openswan patch? |
| 18:23.00 | stoned | oh good god youre not even the right person |
| 18:23.01 | piper69 | asg: i am still confused |
| 18:23.03 | asg | stoned: I think you smoked a little too much |
| 18:23.06 | stoned | lol |
| 18:23.16 | bryndza | lex try look at man ip, especialy ip rule |
| 18:23.23 | stoned | untrue, I'm clean! will smoke after I hopeufully get this job |
| 18:23.26 | asg | piper69: chown user.group /path/to/file ; chmod 640 /path/to/file |
| 18:23.34 | lex | bryndza, Oh, i have... |
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| 18:23.37 | sng | stoned: No. scarynetworkguy wasn't stolen. I hve it just like I always have. :) |
| 18:23.46 | asg | piper69: replace user.group with your username and groupname (usually the same by default) |
| 18:23.56 | stoned | asg, man, the other day I was talking in #amarok for like an hour thinking it was #debian |
| 18:24.05 | lex | Man... this problem is so weird... everything works, except messenger, which connects and disconnects and reconnects in very quick intervals all day |
| 18:24.09 | asg | stoned: hah, maybe the lack of herb is causing the problem |
| 18:24.09 | stoned | so.. maybe I've smoked myself retarded, but.. I'm still no less helpful hehe |
| 18:24.14 | bryndza | lex you just add networks you want to route in a table and acording tu that table you route them:) |
| 18:24.14 | stoned | maybe so |
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| 18:24.26 | stoned | sng, word man, hows it goin |
| 18:24.37 | piper69 | asg: i am trying to give my current user all the root pervileages |
| 18:24.38 | lex | bryndza, Yeah... and it seems to work... except for messenger... who wouldve thought |
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| 18:24.48 | jason^ | is there a way to do a headless install? i don't feel like connecting a mouse/keyboard/monitor to a machine |
| 18:24.52 | stoned | piper69, add your user to /etc/sudoers then |
| 18:25.05 | asg | piper69: install sudo ; man sudoers ; visudo |
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| 18:25.08 | stoned | piper69, install sudo then. Don't add anyone to group root or whatever |
| 18:25.15 | lex | Here is a direct question: does anyone have a multilink situation with iproute2 and a small but well used office network ... and have this working perfectly, messenger included_ |
| 18:25.17 | lex | _ |
| 18:25.18 | lex | ? |
| 18:25.39 | bryndza | lex you have tho route them and back, if the other site route thourgh the other upllinks t could be problem, i think you are dooing link aggregation ? |
| 18:25.41 | piper69 | stoned: "apt-get install sudo right |
| 18:25.42 | grendal_prime | basically im not assigning enough memory right |
| 18:25.43 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 18:25.45 | stoned | piper69, yes |
| 18:25.45 | asg | piper69: yes |
| 18:25.47 | grendal_prime | (II) I810(0): 4 kBytes additional video memory is required to enable DRI. |
| 18:26.06 | grendal_prime | 3200 is 32 megs? |
| 18:26.16 | stoned | piper69, apt-get install sudo && nano /etc/sudoers | just follow the format at the bottom for root, like user ALL=(ALL) ALL etc. |
| 18:26.37 | stoned | piper69, also read/learn about sudo manpage and sudoers, useful info |
| 18:26.38 | _ds | grendal_prime, no; about 3.1. |
| 18:27.21 | asg | stoned: nano makes me feel unclean |
| 18:27.27 | stoned | I love pico man |
| 18:27.30 | piper69 | stoned: this is my problem everytime i'm trying to learn something or do something i get driffted by something else that will make me forget what i was really looking for |
| 18:27.42 | asg | stoned: last time I used pico was with pine in '93 |
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| 18:28.00 | stoned | piper69, sounds like a personal problem. Try some meditation, it will improve your concentration for the task at hend |
| 18:28.02 | stoned | hand* |
| 18:28.02 | jelly | grendal_prime: dri on i810 isn't much though, at least on my i915GM. Barely enough to run a screensaver. |
| 18:28.10 | stoned | asg, haha, nice |
| 18:28.17 | stoned | asg, I used my first linux in 1993 |
| 18:28.40 | grendal_prime | jelly, im trying to get the dri to work at all |
| 18:28.42 | asg | stoned: this was dial-up to a SunOS box |
| 18:28.48 | grendal_prime | xorg testing |
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| 18:28.53 | piper69 | stoned: i'm trying to learn how to use Asterisk and i want to install it on my system , so let me stick to this now ....i just want to have my current user be able to download and install the asterisk.tar.gz |
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| 18:29.09 | grendal_prime | there is no agpgart available that i can tell though |
| 18:29.14 | jelly | grendal_prime: I'm just saying it's not going to be of much use even if you get it to work. |
| 18:29.17 | refnumzx | i need to mount a directory in fstab how can i do this, i want to mount /files/music to /music |
| 18:29.18 | stoned | I have private access to the Columbia Online Information Network, wanted me to do some networking work for them, I was 12 years old, this is before the Internet was made commercial/public |
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| 18:29.48 | stoned | piper69, how come the user doesn't have write perms to his ~/ |
| 18:29.51 | grendal_prime | are you kidding me? cant run anything that require opengl without it |
| 18:29.52 | my007ms | is there is something like virtual host in ftp server i need make towe anonymous in the same server |
| 18:29.57 | stoned | piper69, where are you trying to download the file as user |
| 18:30.26 | stoned | s/have/had |
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| 18:31.08 | piper69 | stoned: i am loged in as piper69 and i tried to download a file to root |
| 18:31.11 | stoned | btw, COIN was the thing that got me into networking and security |
| 18:31.19 | stoned | piper69, why the hell would you do that, and of course that isn't going to work |
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| 18:31.32 | stoned | piper69, users dont' have access to /root |
| 18:32.10 | grendal_prime | jelly what is the line in your xorg conf that specifies the amount of memory. |
| 18:32.24 | Piet | compromise of gluck.debian.org, lock down of other debian.org machines |
| 18:32.26 | stoned | piper69, just download the file to your ~/ and extract it there, compile it, make it, and then make insall it as sudo or root and it will go where it needs to go, like /usr/ or whatver, or if you specify a prefix |
| 18:32.36 | Piet | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00003.html |
| 18:32.39 | jelly | grendal_prime: I presume you've already taken a look at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 ? |
| 18:32.49 | jelly | grendal_prime: lemme check |
| 18:32.58 | stew | piper69: why not just use the debian asterisk packages? |
| 18:32.59 | grendal_prime | actually no but i will. |
| 18:33.08 | piper69 | stoned: by ~/ u mean the user folder |
| 18:33.17 | stoned | piper69, ~/ stands for /home/usernamehere |
| 18:33.38 | piper69 | stew: i would love too but they told me in asterisk not to do that |
| 18:34.00 | jelly | grendal_prime: in section "Device" I have -=> VideoRam 131072 <=- but that was just me goofing off. Try setting it to eg. 32768. |
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| 18:34.05 | CHodapp | Anyone here using MadWifi on AMD64? |
| 18:34.09 | rspiro | when packages are excluded from upgrades, can i see why? |
| 18:34.25 | stew | piper69: did they give a reason why? |
| 18:34.37 | refnumzx | i need to mount a directory in fstab how can i do this, i want to mount /files/music to /music |
| 18:34.42 | jelly | grendal_prime: but first take a look at the instructions at that wiki page |
| 18:34.45 | stew | rspiro: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 18:34.52 | piper69 | stew: no but i think because i am trying to get the leatest news |
| 18:34.55 | stoned | refnumzx, man mount |
| 18:35.05 | stew | piper69: install it from backports then /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 18:35.12 | asg | refnumzx: ln -s /files/music /music |
| 18:35.19 | stoned | refnumzx, you can also mount --bind in a suation like this, or use symlinks |
| 18:35.26 | refnumzx | no, i need to mount that directory read only |
| 18:35.33 | stew | piper69: unless there is that big of a difference between 1.2.7 and 1.2.9 |
| 18:35.36 | grendal_prime | jelly the error i get is that i just dont have enough memory. |
| 18:35.38 | refnumzx | which is fstab and no mount |
| 18:35.48 | refnumzx | i want it done automatically |
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| 18:36.00 | stoned | refnumzx, so specify the ro option in fstab |
| 18:36.04 | refnumzx | man mount will not help me i don't think and neither will simlinks |
| 18:36.08 | stoned | refnumzx, follow the standard fstab format |
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| 18:36.39 | stoned | refnumzx, /stuff /mountpoint type options pass dump |
| 18:36.51 | refnumzx | i tried just by renaming dirsand such qand it told me it was not a block device |
| 18:37.00 | piper69 | stew: would u show me how i really don't know :( |
| 18:37.07 | stoned | ohhh wait, yeah, wtf am I saying |
| 18:37.09 | stew | piper69: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 18:37.15 | piper69 | stew: i just downloaded the tar.gz |
| 18:37.18 | stoned | refnumzx, mount --bind |
| 18:37.24 | stoned | I think |
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| 18:37.31 | stoned | I'm not sure what your exact problem is |
| 18:37.37 | stew | piper69: if you are going to install it from the .tar.gz and not using debian packages, you should be asking them for support, not us |
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| 18:37.55 | refnumzx | i need to mount a directory, not a filesystem to another directory as read only |
| 18:38.03 | cast | which of linux-image-2.6-xen-k7 and linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-k7 is intended to be run as the guest? |
| 18:38.03 | stoned | refnumzx, yes, use mount --bind for that |
| 18:38.22 | stoned | refnumzx, I don't know how to specify that in fstab, maybe someone else does, im not even sure you can bind stuff in fstab |
| 18:38.28 | refnumzx | can i put that in fstab somewhere? |
| 18:38.32 | asg | stoned: from the manpage, --bind mounts can't specify new options |
| 18:38.39 | rspiro | stew: apt-get remove kernel ? |
| 18:38.41 | refnumzx | heh |
| 18:38.42 | asg | refnumzx: if you don't want people to write to that directory, change the permissions |
| 18:38.44 | stoned | asg, yes, its been a long while since I did that |
| 18:39.08 | stew | rspiro: huh? |
| 18:39.17 | refnumzx | thanks |
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| 18:39.22 | stoned | sure |
| 18:39.33 | w00t- | is hard install mysql in DSL ? |
| 18:39.36 | CHodapp | Someone mind telling me what Pure64 is? |
| 18:39.48 | stew | w00t-: please go to #damnsmalllinux for help with DSL |
| 18:39.49 | rspiro | stew: would that command do anything? |
| 18:39.50 | asg | w00t-: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 18:40.03 | stew | rspiro: that command should complain that no package named "kernel" exists |
| 18:40.08 | asg | CHodapp: it's a hand soap |
| 18:40.08 | stew | rspiro: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:40.17 | grendal_prime | brb |
| 18:41.04 | stew | CHodapp: previously although debian provided 64 bit kernels for 64 bit cpus, the userspace was all 32 bit, pure64 would refer to runnign debian with applications compiled to be 64 bit as well |
| 18:41.13 | w00t- | asg only that ? |
| 18:41.25 | asg | w00t-: yes |
| 18:41.26 | w00t- | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 18:41.27 | w00t- | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 18:41.33 | w00t- | then what i need to do |
| 18:41.39 | stew | w00t-: please go to #damnsmalllinux |
| 18:41.44 | asg | w00t-: read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/* |
| 18:41.55 | w00t- | stew ppl on that dont talk |
| 18:41.56 | w00t- | :) |
| 18:41.57 | asg | w00t-: if these things don't work or don't exist, consult #damnsmalllinux. |
| 18:42.03 | stew | w00t-: try a mailing list then |
| 18:42.05 | w00t- | and dsl is based on debian :) |
| 18:42.09 | stew | w00t-: its off-topic in here |
| 18:42.14 | stoned | !based on debian |
| 18:42.17 | lex | Here is a directo question: Are there still problems with combining MARK and SNAT in netfilter? |
| 18:42.26 | stew | lex: ask #iptables |
| 18:42.48 | stoned | stew, that and debian based factoids don't show up, however listkeys lists them. Its been like this for a few weeks, suddently they disappeared |
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| 18:44.23 | CHodapp | I know I can have a 32-bit chroot but I'm concerned with whether or not I can make MadWifi run |
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| 18:45.25 | piper69 | stew: they say it's just like normal as every other tar.gz "download/make it /compile and install |
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| 18:47.03 | stew | stoned: yeah i can reproduce it with aptitude, i'll try to debug it in a little bit |
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| 18:47.11 | stoned | stew, take your time |
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| 18:47.32 | aptitude | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of stew) |
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| 18:49.29 | pourriture_ | I am doing make-kpkg on a quad-processor box, but top show that 2 of the procs are idle ... will setting CONCURRENCY_LEVEL in kernel-pkg.conf take care of this? |
| 18:50.48 | asg | pourriture_: that sounds reasonable and there is an easy way to test it |
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| 18:51.04 | stoned | streuner, whats up |
| 18:51.38 | piper69 | stew: so i'll tar -x asteriskasterisk-1.2.9.1.tar.gz is that right |
| 18:52.27 | asg | pourriture_: the make-kpkg manpage indicates that setting it to 4 would cause 4 cpus to be used. |
| 18:52.36 | pourriture_ | asg .... not an easy way for another hour or so until this compile finishes |
| 18:52.38 | stew | piper69: "/msg dpkg tar" ; my recommendation is that you use the debian pacakges |
| 18:52.48 | streuner | stoned: hi |
| 18:53.08 | asg | streuner: he's stoned but not high since he's looking for a job |
| 18:53.15 | stoned | hehe |
| 18:53.26 | pack | asg, if you were to alias make to make -j8 would make-kpkg overwrite it? |
| 18:53.27 | stoned | my roommate was toking last night, it pissed me off :( |
| 18:53.28 | streuner | haha |
| 18:53.38 | pourriture_ | asg .... more than anything I am hoping to avoid compiling for days and days and days to get it right :) |
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| 18:54.11 | asg | pack: dunno. the manpage indicates that setting CONCURRENCY_LEVEL will pass it to '-j' |
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| 18:55.09 | stew | pourriture_: you can definately just run "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 make-kpkg " |
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| 18:55.38 | stew | pack: the make-kpkg manpage explicitly warns against trying to set -j yourself |
| 18:55.57 | pack | pshaw...man pages are for the weak. like helmets and safety belts. |
| 18:56.11 | sclebo05 | haha |
| 18:56.12 | asg | yeah, chump helmets |
| 18:56.51 | stoned | lol |
| 18:56.52 | splif | so i built a new kernel and it seems to load fine but the system doesn't load the init system, does anyone know where i could find some info on this? i've searched around and come up empty handed. |
| 18:56.59 | pourriture_ | I thought -j was usually cpus+1 ... saved me a mess there ... thanks |
| 18:57.07 | stoned | pack, I hope that was a joke |
| 18:57.20 | stoned | otherwise, its one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard |
| 18:57.52 | xpotato | does anyone know the status on the development of the apache 2.2.x packages for debian? |
| 18:57.52 | stew | splif: what is the error you get? |
| 18:57.54 | streuner | s/weak/clever/ |
| 18:58.49 | xpotato | i searched around a bit and couldn't find many recent developments |
| 18:58.49 | pack | stoned, if that's in the top ten most ignorant statements you've ever heard you I want to live where you do. |
| 18:58.49 | aedAS24679 | pourriture_: http://www.timocharis.com/help/jn.html |
| 18:59.23 | stoned | pack, demographics don't mean anything. Also, nevermind, have fun... |
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| 19:00.04 | splif | the system just hangs after the first ext3fs message "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode." where there should be 8 which would be one for each partition. |
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| 19:01.46 | splif | stew: it should actually mount the swap next but it just hangs |
| 19:02.33 | stew | splif: i'm not sure then. is swapfile support definately in the kenrel? |
| 19:02.49 | pack | pourriture_: when you set -j (or CONCURRENCY_LEVEL in this case) use a number double you're cpu count. There's a fair amount of wasted time compiling waiting for IO that you can avoid (most uniproc compiles will also benifit from -j2) |
| 19:03.08 | xav_ | ho nice, looks like it finally worked |
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| 19:03.24 | splif | stew: its just a default config with high memory support turned to 64gb |
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| 19:05.09 | pack | splif you didn't forget something like make oldconfig or make dep did you? |
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| 19:06.55 | splif | pack: i'm using the make-kpkg method and didn't think i needed to do a make dep? |
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| 19:07.34 | pack | splif: whoops sorry, i've never done it that way. |
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| 19:08.22 | aranux | hello , where to find a guid for building a debian based distro using anaconda ???? |
| 19:08.59 | streuner | sounds like a question for progeny :-) |
| 19:09.15 | piper69 | i have extract the file how can i compile it should i /foldername/ ./configuer |
| 19:09.59 | streuner | aranux: progeny made installer using anaconda, maybe you should look there |
| 19:10.04 | aranux | streuner does thy have a website ???? |
| 19:10.08 | streuner | sure |
| 19:10.13 | piper69 | stew: i tried to use apt-get for asterisk but there where so much i couldn't find 127 |
| 19:10.56 | aranux | streuner is there a guid for the steps ????? |
| 19:11.07 | streuner | no idea |
| 19:11.29 | aranux | streuner thank you a lot |
| 19:11.36 | stew | piper69: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 19:11.36 | streuner | np |
| 19:11.50 | piper69 | stew: thank you |
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| 19:19.16 | piper69 | stew: i just did apt-get install asterisk after apt-get update |
| 19:19.26 | piper69 | stew: and it installed it |
| 19:19.44 | stew | piper69: you executed exactly that? "apt-get install asterisk"? |
| 19:19.56 | piper69 | stew: yep |
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| 19:20.21 | piper69 | stew: and it installed it but i don't know which version |
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| 19:20.55 | stew | piper69: please read http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 19:21.03 | stew | !wikifaq piper69 PackageManagement |
| 19:21.03 | dpkg | piper69: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:21.47 | piper69 | stew: i do have backprots setup already |
| 19:22.03 | piper69 | stew: u showed me that long time aga 3-4 months ago |
| 19:22.21 | stew | piper69: yeah, but you didn't actually follow the instructions |
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| 19:22.44 | xpotato | does anyone have any idea what the status of the apache 2.2.x packages are? |
| 19:22.53 | xpotato | or if there is a status? |
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| 19:23.11 | piper69 | stew: it match what i have in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:23.28 | piper69 | stew: and what i have in /etc/apt/preferences |
| 19:23.51 | stew | piper69: what version of asterisk do you have installed |
| 19:23.56 | piper69 | stew: so after that i "apt-get install asterisk" |
| 19:24.05 | piper69 | stew: i don't know |
| 19:25.03 | stew | piper69: read the apt-howto and/or the link dpkg just gave you about PackageManagement |
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| 19:27.18 | piper69 | stew: will do...am gonna head out to lunch now and i'll be back after i read the link u sent me |
| 19:27.54 | seb- | What do when 'apt-get upgrade ' tells you lots of packages have been "kept back" ? How *not* 'keep them back'? |
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| 19:28.18 | userter | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 19:28.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
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| 19:29.03 | asg | seb-: run apt-get update ; /msg dpkg hold |
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| 19:29.14 | stew | seb-: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 19:29.15 | asg | seb-: also /msg dpkg held back |
| 19:29.24 | seb- | asg: thanks |
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| 19:29.57 | stew | !literal held back |
| 19:29.57 | dpkg | "held back" is "<reply> see kept back" |
| 19:29.59 | stew | :) |
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| 19:33.11 | ras | does anyone know how to change the theme for kdm? |
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| 19:35.50 | sclebo05 | #kdm does ;) |
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| 19:36.10 | asg | as does #debian-kde |
| 19:36.25 | ras | #kdm has no users |
| 19:36.35 | stew | he probably meant #kde |
| 19:36.49 | ras | they are not answering me |
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| 19:37.33 | asg | ras: http://www.google.com/search?q=change%20themes%20in%20kde (will likely produce useful results) |
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| 19:40.56 | Vasistha | ras: kcontrol > themes and appearance > themes |
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| 19:42.07 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 19:42.19 | Mazingaro | please how can I unpack .ace archives? |
| 19:42.30 | asg | Mazingaro: /msg dpkg unace |
| 19:42.31 | zinx | with unace, presumably |
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| 19:42.50 | Mazingaro | it didn't work |
| 19:42.57 | Mazingaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.58 | Mazingaro | File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible. |
| 19:42.58 | Mazingaro | Error occurred |
| 19:42.58 | zinx | then you don't. |
| 19:43.12 | Mazingaro | it was packed with winace |
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| 19:43.14 | zinx | you get a windows machine to unpack your warez with :D |
| 19:43.27 | Mazingaro | zinx: it is not warez |
| 19:43.33 | zinx | sure, whatever |
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| 19:43.42 | zinx | you need winace to unpack it, in any case |
| 19:43.46 | Mazingaro | :( |
| 19:43.55 | eastwood | use a standard format |
| 19:44.00 | eastwood | like zip or tar |
| 19:44.09 | Mazingaro | eastwood: I use them, my friends not |
| 19:44.13 | asg | oddball packers when the way of the dodo with the door games |
| 19:44.19 | Mazingaro | eastwood: I use them, my friends don't |
| 19:44.23 | eastwood | blaim you friends then |
| 19:44.31 | Mazingaro | eastwood: sure, I did |
| 19:44.38 | eastwood | "hey fucker, gimme my warez" |
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| 19:44.45 | eastwood | jk |
| 19:44.51 | asg | !list |
| 19:44.51 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to asg |
| 19:46.45 | eastwood | Mazingaro, try unace |
| 19:47.18 | Mazingaro | eastwood: I did |
| 19:47.26 | Mazingaro | eastwood: Analyzing |
| 19:47.26 | Mazingaro | File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible. |
| 19:47.26 | Mazingaro | Error occurred |
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| 19:48.51 | _ds | $ apt-cache search ace archive | grep archive |
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| 19:51.42 | simonrvn | !asg |
| 19:51.42 | dpkg | i heard asg is asg |
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| 19:52.20 | lunitik | Grrr... My Mom is too scared to let me install something that isn't crap on her machine though :( |
| 19:52.38 | lunitik | Technophobic people suck |
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| 19:53.00 | Vasistha | lunitik: hey, at least you can use linspire... |
| 19:53.08 | lunitik | Making non-technical people think they have to pay to install open source software is low |
| 19:53.11 | stew | !asg is also ask me about <pubtime> |
| 19:53.11 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:53.37 | TGoC | Hello people, i'm trying to understand why my server does: Mem: 500736 442544 (used) 58192 i shut down Mysql, Apache, Webmin and its still telling me so much memory is being used, anyone has an idea? |
| 19:53.42 | simonrvn | !stew |
| 19:53.47 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 19:53.58 | simonrvn | !simonrvn |
| 19:53.59 | dpkg | Old joke. |
| 19:54.08 | Vasistha | TGoC: top |
| 19:54.25 | simonrvn | down, or bottom |
| 19:54.26 | TGoC | i tried that, but nothing is explaining what is using 400 megabyte of memory |
| 19:54.38 | lunitik | TGoC: Linux likes using memory... beats the hell out of loading from the harddrive all the time... |
| 19:54.43 | _ds | TGoC: file cache will account for some of it. |
| 19:54.47 | Vasistha | TGoC: did you try sorting by mem usage? |
| 19:54.49 | simonrvn | !free memory |
| 19:54.49 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux caches files from disk in RAM for performance gains, and will release the RAM if programs need it. |
| 19:54.52 | TGoC | yes Vasistha |
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| 19:55.20 | TGoC | simonrvn i don't like my ram to be full with cache when it causes other programs to be more loadtime. |
| 19:55.42 | simonrvn | so install windows then. that's how linux works. and in fact you're wrong. |
| 19:55.45 | Vasistha | I wonder how easy it would be to adjust that |
| 19:55.52 | TGoC | simonrvn can't i limit it? to only use 300 meg |
| 19:55.53 | philips | TGoC: you want to trade load time for running speed? |
| 19:56.07 | Vasistha | especially on a server, that sounds unwise! |
| 19:56.16 | simonrvn | and why would you want to constrain your system when you don't need to? |
| 19:56.25 | TGoC | simonrvn i do. |
| 19:56.31 | TGoC | When i just started up my server |
| 19:56.43 | TGoC | everything in mysql and php loads in less then 0.0001 seconds |
| 19:56.50 | simonrvn | i don't see it. but it's your machine. and i don't think it's possible anyway. |
| 19:56.58 | simonrvn | add real RAM then |
| 19:56.59 | TGoC | When files are being cached, i may be happy if it is less then 0.1 sec |
| 19:57.08 | simonrvn | and faster disks |
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| 19:57.45 | TGoC | File caching should leave some memory free, for use to other programs. |
| 19:57.49 | simonrvn | Vasistha: no kdding |
| 19:57.57 | stew | more ravens! |
| 19:57.58 | my007ms | i have lvm2 but i can not boot so i try rescue mode from fedora cd |
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| 19:58.12 | my007ms | when i do lvscan i see my lvm |
| 19:58.21 | simonrvn | debian's install cd can be used as rescue... |
| 19:58.22 | my007ms | but i don't have them under /dev |
| 19:58.25 | stoned | nevermore! |
| 19:58.27 | Vasistha | !enter |
| 19:58.28 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 19:58.32 | Vasistha | my007ms: ^^^ |
| 19:58.38 | lunitik | my007ms: you need a /boot partition outside of the lvm2 ... grub doesn't support loading lvm2 volumes |
| 19:58.56 | my007ms | yes i have boot partition |
| 19:59.06 | lunitik | my007ms: this is even Fedora etc's solution |
| 19:59.20 | my007ms | but i have debian system in that lvm |
| 19:59.21 | stew | my007ms: lilo will boot from from a /boot partition inside lvm however |
| 19:59.24 | lunitik | my007ms: hmm... I've set up LVM2 on Debian with no issues before... |
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| 20:00.03 | TGoC | I'll guess i'll just run a cron |
| 20:00.08 | TGoC | to restart every 6 hours |
| 20:00.08 | TGoC | :p |
| 20:00.25 | stew | lunitik: it makes your /etc/mtab look cooler! :P |
| 20:00.32 | simonrvn | i do, but because i don't have enough ram in the machine |
| 20:00.34 | lunitik | stew: good point! |
| 20:01.15 | TGoC | this is my mem after reboot: Mem: 500736k total, 104064k used, 396672k free, 4532k buffers |
| 20:01.16 | lunitik | Not really though... /dev/disks/root isn't as clean looking as /dev/hda1 :/ |
| 20:01.26 | TGoC | see the difference |
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| 20:01.59 | TGoC | 58192k free or 396672k free... |
| 20:02.02 | simonrvn | you're worrying for nothing |
| 20:02.18 | lunitik | TGoC: you like having 400MB RAM being wasted? |
| 20:02.21 | TGoC | simonrvn, if file caching make's my output slower, i'm worrying about a big issue |
| 20:02.29 | killown | I have a problem when I try to execute opera brownser as local user it says opera: cannot connect to X server I too trying create .Xauthority file but don't works when I start X it make file .server.xxx randoms how I do for X to use .Xauthority file ? |
| 20:02.34 | TGoC | lunitik lol no, i don't mind if it cashes another 300 meg |
| 20:02.38 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 20:02.40 | stew | TGoC: how would caching make things slower? |
| 20:02.46 | TGoC | but aslong there is more then 100 meg free. |
| 20:03.02 | stew | TGoC: why do you want to waste 100 megs? |
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| 20:03.15 | TGoC | stew because if files are cached that are dynamic and change everytime, it's useless >_> |
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| 20:03.55 | TGoC | Now my execution time of a page is very low |
| 20:04.01 | TGoC | when it's caching |
| 20:04.02 | stew | TGoC: the time wasted would certinaly be greater if you didn't have caching, or if you used rebooting as a method of clearing your cache |
| 20:04.07 | TGoC | the execution time becomes longer. |
| 20:04.38 | TGoC | i just like to have 100 meg free from caching |
| 20:04.48 | TGoC | why can't it use the memory on my disk for caching |
| 20:04.58 | stew | TGoC: it does |
| 20:05.00 | TGoC | Swap: 1421712 0 1421712 |
| 20:05.04 | TGoC | 0 used |
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| 20:05.12 | newbie_ | hi @ll |
| 20:05.14 | TGoC | Instead of using my Ram use my swap for god sake, that's why i added it. |
| 20:05.48 | newbie_ | i can't get dhcp running |
| 20:05.55 | stew | TGoC: if you want to use more swap you can increase your swappiness, /msg dpkg swappiness |
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| 20:06.00 | iarenaza | TGoC if it used your swap for caching, it would be _very_ slow. In fact, given that it would access your disk any way, why cache at all? |
| 20:06.08 | newbie_ | sudo ifup eth0 leads to "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" |
| 20:06.31 | newbie_ | sudo dhclient eth0 returns 5 times dhcpdiscover at different intervals |
| 20:06.48 | newbie_ | but in the end it can't acquire a lease. |
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| 20:06.57 | stew | newbie_: it sounds like you need to configure eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 20:07.07 | TGoC | swapcache is slower then Ram true, but swapcache is faster then just reading for disk. |
| 20:07.12 | newbie_ | how can i dow this? |
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| 20:07.35 | stew | !tell newbie_ about interfaces |
| 20:07.36 | TGoC | http://pastebin.ca/86360 @ stew, simonrvn, lunitik |
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| 20:07.43 | iarenaza | TGoC marginally faster. The main factor is disk spindle, and it's the same in both cases. |
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| 20:08.02 | newbie_ | !tell |
| 20:08.09 | newbie_ | ? |
| 20:08.15 | TGoC | iarenaza, if that keeps my mysql from being able to suck my memory, i'm gladly to lose a bit cache |
| 20:08.16 | infernix | newbie, besides that, if dhclient doesnt get an ip, either try it with dhclient3 (apt-get install dhcp3-client) or you are not in a network with a dhcp server |
| 20:08.22 | infernix | or plug in the cable. |
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| 20:08.33 | newbie_ | well the cable is plugged in |
| 20:08.33 | stew | newbie_: the bot named "dpkg" should have just sent you a private message about the interfaces file |
| 20:08.39 | lunitik | TGoC: Linux uses 90% of RAM at all times... no matter what... this is a feature, not a bug. |
| 20:08.41 | guevolt | drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2006-07-12 17:09 web What is mean the 2 before www-data:www-data ? |
| 20:08.42 | iarenaza | TGoC if mysql is eating your memory, tune mysql memory usage. |
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| 20:08.53 | newbie_ | and a windows system is currently using dhcp |
| 20:09.00 | newbie_ | on the same router |
| 20:09.05 | TGoC | iarenaza i want mysql to suck memory, it's best for what i want it to do. |
| 20:09.20 | iarenaza | TGoC then, what's the problem? |
| 20:09.29 | newbie_ | but via wlan .. linux should do it via cable, though it shouldn't matter |
| 20:09.37 | TGoC | It's not mysql that sucks but it's file caching iarenaza >_> |
| 20:09.46 | TGoC | i want a little bit more mysql sucking mem then file caching |
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| 20:10.01 | stew | TGoC: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server*/examples/ has various configurations for mysql to use different amounts of resources |
| 20:10.09 | iarenaza | TGoC if your mysql doesn't eat more memory is not because filecache is preventing it, but because mysql isn't asking for more. |
| 20:10.24 | newbie_ | what should i do now given these facts? |
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| 20:10.47 | TGoC | iarenaza, if that's true why is mysql alot faster after startup then after a couple of hours/days later |
| 20:11.08 | iarenaza | TGoC I don't know, i'm not a mysql guru :-) |
| 20:11.11 | lindi- | TGoC: got some nice benchmark for that? |
| 20:11.13 | TGoC | Heheh |
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| 20:11.29 | TGoC | lindi- i'm comparing execution time after startup and after a day later |
| 20:11.36 | newbie_ | it just shows me previous error messages |
| 20:11.41 | TGoC | It's shocking how much difference there is. |
| 20:11.45 | iarenaza | TGoC filecache is freed as soon as an app asks for memory. |
| 20:11.46 | lindi- | TGoC: yeah, but how can i reproduce that? |
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| 20:11.59 | stew | !no interfaces is <reply>Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 20:11.59 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 20:12.03 | TGoC | lindi- just use a parsetime script |
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| 20:12.10 | lindi- | TGoC: never heard of that :/ |
| 20:12.11 | TGoC | do some useless mysql commands |
| 20:12.12 | newbie_ | and dhclient3 seems to work as bad as dhclient |
| 20:12.21 | TGoC | and then repeat the same demand |
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| 20:12.23 | TGoC | 1 day later |
| 20:12.31 | stew | TGoC: configure your mysql to allocate more resources |
| 20:12.34 | TGoC | Believe me, after reboot it's alot faster. |
| 20:12.40 | TGoC | k stew |
| 20:13.09 | lindi- | TGoC: you should ask mysql folks i think |
| 20:13.19 | stew | TGoC: and note that those examples are probably a bit outdated, the "large" example is probably not a very "large" machine by today's standards |
| 20:13.33 | iarenaza | TGoC if after reboot it's a lot faster, then this is clearly not a memory issue, as the kernel has to fault each and every page for the code and data, which is not the case later. |
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| 20:14.10 | stew | yeah from my-large.cnf: "# This is for a large system with memory = 512M " |
| 20:14.14 | stew | ooooh 512 megs! |
| 20:15.14 | iarenaza | if the kernel is not using swap and filecache is big is just because mysql is not asking for more memory. Otherwise either filecache would be lower (if mysql asks for more memory and actively uses it) or swap would be used (asked for memory but didn't used it for a time). |
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| 20:16.36 | p0t_ | madwifi needs the kernel but its not in /usr/src |
| 20:16.54 | stew | p0t_: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 20:20.36 | blondie | kangaroo |
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| 20:20.49 | stoned | blondie, jack |
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| 20:20.56 | blondie | :o |
| 20:21.05 | stoned | dumb flick |
| 20:21.13 | usbk | Hi is there a free live-usb linux distrib? |
| 20:21.15 | stoned | but it was still pretty funny |
| 20:21.17 | usbk | flonix is not free |
| 20:21.18 | p0t_ | memic, not sure it was the current one thogh |
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| 20:21.40 | stew | p0t_: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:21.42 | stoned | usbk, damnsmallinux.org #damnsmalllinux |
| 20:21.48 | malex | !revelation |
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| 20:22.20 | usbk | thanks |
| 20:22.22 | stoned | sure |
| 20:22.41 | malex | Hi. I got bit by the #376149 in revelation. However, it seems that the patch listed in the bug report has already been applied to the latest package. It still can't find gnome.applet to import it. |
| 20:22.57 | p0t_ | 2.4.27 |
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| 20:23.04 | Illarane|Laptop | Is there a way to force apt to install a package and ignore the dependencies? |
| 20:23.15 | p0t_ | memic 2.4.27 |
| 20:23.15 | aedAS24679 | clear portions of the buffer cache: http://adlr.info/?Cfree |
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| 20:23.32 | diablero | Is anybody here can speak Turkish ? |
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| 20:23.45 | Illarane|Laptop | There is no way I'm updating KDE in its entirety and losing about 200 packages because it's not picking up QT properly. |
| 20:23.46 | simonrvn | !tr |
| 20:23.47 | dpkg | tr is, like, türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net) -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 20:23.50 | stew | p0t_: then that isn't a debian kernel, you (or someone else must have compiled it) |
| 20:24.06 | diablero | thanks |
| 20:24.11 | diablero | :=) |
| 20:24.20 | stew | p0t_: are you the one that compiled it? where did you get it? |
| 20:24.37 | Condector | hey, why the debian kernel has a terrible suport off the sata controllers?? |
| 20:24.51 | stew | Condector: which debian kernel are you talking about? |
| 20:24.54 | p0t_ | stew ... what do you mean? thats straight from the install cd |
| 20:25.12 | stew | p0t_: not from the debian install cd. otherwise "uname -r" would have returned something slightly different |
| 20:25.39 | Condector | stew, thaaanks!! with... |
| 20:25.40 | Condector | ;) |
| 20:25.48 | p0t_ | stew 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 20:26.16 | stew | p0t_: oh, in that case, all you should need is the kernel headers for compiling a third party module, "apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" |
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| 20:26.33 | Condector | stew, the debian kernel 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 no detect serial ata... |
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| 20:27.21 | stew | Condector: yes, the 2.6.8 kernel was frozen over 1.5 years ago, so it won't have great support for newer SATA controllers, if the 2.6.8 kernel isn't working you can try "/msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15" |
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| 20:27.54 | Condector | stew, humm, thanks!! |
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| 20:30.58 | Condector | stew, thanks a lot |
| 20:30.59 | benny`gentoo | hi! little debian-newbie question: got a timeout (my fault) while my debian server does a "apt-get upgrade". is there a way to continue the work or do i have to delete "var/lib/dpkg/lock" and run it again? |
| 20:32.00 | streuner | just run apt-get upgrade again |
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| 20:32.28 | Condector | stew, thank's a lot.. |
| 20:32.35 | stew | Condector: you're welcome |
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| 20:32.43 | p0t_ | stew ... still nothing.. it started compiling but i got a bunch of errors saying theres a bunhc of missing files |
| 20:32.51 | streuner | benny`gentoo: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 20:32.57 | benny`gentoo | streuner, thats the problem. i can't because /var/lib/dpkg/lock is used by the other instance of apt-get |
| 20:32.58 | stew | p0t_: can you paste them to a pastebin? |
| 20:33.22 | streuner | benny`gentoo: well, so just run *ONE* |
| 20:33.32 | streuner | benny`gentoo: instance* |
| 20:33.36 | seb- | How recompile kernel the Debian way? |
| 20:33.37 | stew | benny`gentoo: you have to kill the other instance, "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock" will tell you the pid |
| 20:33.45 | asg | seb-: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 20:33.47 | benny`gentoo | streuner, pls read what i say :) my ssh-session timed out |
| 20:33.51 | sclebo05 | i use make-kpkg |
| 20:33.53 | stoned | eastwood, yo |
| 20:33.53 | p0t_ | stew no... im not online on that box... i have to walk back and forth between computers |
| 20:34.09 | stoned | hmm |
| 20:34.18 | eastwood | stoned, yooo |
| 20:34.19 | seb- | sclebo05: does that let you modify .config? |
| 20:34.20 | stew | p0t_: you also might try "/msg dpkg madwifi-install" |
| 20:34.30 | stew | benny`gentoo: if the other process had died, the lock should have been released |
| 20:34.53 | stoned | eastwood, skype is bieng a bitch right now. as always. I can't talk on it if I am playing music. skype takes full control of sound card and doent work |
| 20:34.55 | stew | benny`gentoo: if you kill the other and start fresh, it will resume where it left off, even a file that was 50% downloaded will not redownload that 50% |
| 20:34.56 | sclebo05 | make menuconfig, make xconfig, etc does |
| 20:35.01 | sclebo05 | you have to configure, then build |
| 20:35.03 | stew | yay, bike ride time |
| 20:35.04 | stoned | I need to stop using it or something |
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| 20:35.23 | asg | stew: looks like gluck is back online |
| 20:35.28 | stoned | stew, you swim, you ride bikes, I stone. I should do what you do, excercise |
| 20:35.29 | eastwood | stoned, use a sound server |
| 20:35.33 | eastwood | like arts |
| 20:35.38 | stoned | eastwood, nah, hell no, fuck arts |
| 20:35.39 | benny`gentoo | stew, ok, works...thank you :) |
| 20:35.42 | p0t_ | its rather simplified |
| 20:35.47 | stoned | eastwood, dmix keeps me happy |
| 20:35.52 | stoned | arts is way too latent |
| 20:35.54 | eastwood | esound |
| 20:35.56 | eastwood | then |
| 20:35.58 | stoned | thats even worse |
| 20:36.06 | stoned | very choppy sound |
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| 20:36.10 | stew | asg: wow, that was fast for a total reload, go elmo, i guess |
| 20:36.24 | streuner | benny`gentoo: its too hot here... |
| 20:36.28 | asg | stew: yeah |
| 20:36.36 | seb- | How get debian kernel source? |
| 20:36.36 | stew | stoned: yeah, you should exercise, you'd get better lung capacity for your morning bonghits |
| 20:36.41 | rshakin | hey ppl once again i am trying to setup fetchmail so i can get mail on my debian box... and i am getting error 550 |
| 20:36.49 | stoned | hahaha |
| 20:36.52 | stoned | stew, good idea |
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| 20:36.56 | benny`gentoo | streuner, i know ;) where do you come from= |
| 20:37.07 | streuner | benny`gentoo: germany ;-) |
| 20:37.15 | stoned | deutchland |
| 20:37.16 | benny`gentoo | i know...which town :) |
| 20:37.26 | p0t_ | stew .. is there anothe way to get the ath drivers? |
| 20:37.27 | benny`gentoo | stoned, deutSchland ;) |
| 20:37.31 | eastwood | dutchland |
| 20:37.35 | stoned | yeah whatever |
| 20:37.38 | eastwood | deutchsland |
| 20:37.40 | seb- | rshakin: error 550 is only helpful to google that...run fetchmail in debug/verbose mode to get more info |
| 20:37.40 | eastwood | who cares.. |
| 20:37.41 | stoned | sounds like douchland to me |
| 20:37.45 | stoned | I |
| 20:37.46 | eastwood | ouchland |
| 20:37.54 | stoned | I'm happy calling it Germany |
| 20:38.05 | eastwood | germany is just fine |
| 20:38.05 | stoned | simple enough, and everyone understandds it |
| 20:38.17 | eastwood | deutchland -> long and complicated |
| 20:38.37 | stoned | anyway, don't let me distract you from debian support |
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| 20:40.01 | eastwood | rofl |
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| 20:40.24 | wubrgamer | hey guys |
| 20:40.31 | wubrgamer | i just downloaded and threw in the debian disk |
| 20:40.50 | wubrgamer | and it isn't configing the net right, i can't get past dhcp config |
| 20:41.16 | eastwood | dhcpd eth0 |
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| 20:41.31 | streuner | benny`gentoo: why, do you want give me an air-condition? |
| 20:41.51 | lwt | hello |
| 20:42.06 | eastwood | hola |
| 20:42.29 | benny`gentoo | streuner, hehe...no, i don't give my air-conditioner away :) |
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| 20:44.31 | bluefox83 | ok...where does alsa keep it's configuration files? |
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| 20:44.37 | streuner | benny`gentoo: what model do you have? |
| 20:44.54 | crazy_penguin | night to all! :) |
| 20:45.01 | eastwood | bluefox83, /etc/alsa ? |
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| 20:45.23 | litb | hi! a friend of mine wants to remove gnome in favor of KDE |
| 20:45.27 | streuner | bluefox83: what's wrong with alsaconf? |
| 20:45.33 | litb | what should he execute to do so? |
| 20:45.48 | asg | litb: /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 20:45.50 | bluefox83 | streuner, when i run alsaconf it stops showing my logitech usb headset :( |
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| 20:46.05 | bluefox83 | so i can't raise the volume on it..i end up not being able to hear |
| 20:46.29 | bluefox83 | and if i don't run alsaconf, it refuses to acknowledge my soundcard |
| 20:47.30 | bluefox83 | crap, i have to go get pick someone up..i'll be back here shortly |
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| 20:48.55 | litb | and if i purge a package and another package has dependencies, are those packages removed too ? |
| 20:49.09 | Illarane|Laptop | Is there a way to force apt-get to install a package without updating, installing or removing anything else? |
| 20:49.25 | streuner | litb: no |
| 20:49.28 | eastwood | no |
| 20:49.45 | eastwood | litb, use deborphan |
| 20:50.07 | eastwood | Illarane|Laptop, you cant workaround dependencies that way |
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| 20:50.39 | Illarane|Laptop | eastwood: The dependencies are already satisfied; apt is convinced qt3.2 or above isn't installed. |
| 20:50.43 | litb | but that would mean that packages are on my system which aren't usable anymore... |
| 20:50.47 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 20:51.07 | eastwood | litb, no packages depend on them |
| 20:51.11 | piper69 | stew: are u still here |
| 20:51.11 | asg | litb: use deborphan and debfoster |
| 20:51.11 | streuner | litb: /j #debian.de |
| 20:51.13 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries, why? |
| 20:51.20 | asg | piper69: he went bicycling |
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| 20:51.38 | piper69 | asg: lol.... |
| 20:51.45 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: ok, just paste your sources.list into paster bot |
| 20:51.47 | streuner | !paste |
| 20:51.47 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 20:51.58 | asg | piper69: 16:35 < stew> yay, bike ride time |
| 20:52.02 | Illarane|Laptop | I know how to use a pastebin. |
| 20:52.22 | asg | Illarane|Laptop: preemptive strike, most people don't |
| 20:52.56 | streuner | its annoying if 1 out of 10 paste more than 2 lines... |
| 20:53.04 | Illarane|Laptop | Even if I didn't, I'm not going to paste more than two lines. ;) |
| 20:53.06 | Illarane|Laptop | http://rafb.net/paste/results/94p7gZ88.html |
| 20:53.07 | litb | does adept run with debian ? |
| 20:53.19 | streuner | what? |
| 20:53.21 | asg | litb: on which version of debian |
| 20:53.26 | litb | etch |
| 20:53.26 | piper69 | asg: can you assist me with Astersik pkg , i apt-get install asterisk but i got ver1.0.7 which is old i need to get ver 1.2.7 atlease what sahll i do please |
| 20:53.29 | asg | streuner: some package management thingy |
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| 20:53.58 | asg | piper69: http://backports.org/package.php?search=asterisk |
| 20:54.04 | asg | !info adept etch |
| 20:54.11 | asg | !info adept sid |
| 20:54.18 | dpkg | adept: (package management suite for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 20:54.21 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: fix your sources.list |
| 20:54.41 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: Howso? |
| 20:54.48 | eastwood | omg |
| 20:54.52 | eastwood | what the fuck is that |
| 20:54.57 | litb | what do you suggest as a alternative to adept? |
| 20:55.17 | asg | litb: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=adept |
| 20:55.40 | eastwood | Illarane|Laptop, those should be enough |
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| 20:55.46 | Illarane|Laptop | Look, I'm a musician not an IT technician, that list hasn't caused me any issues so far, and I fail to see what this has to do with the fact that the system thinks that QT isn't installed at all. |
| 20:55.57 | Illarane|Laptop | Well, I am an IT te-oh, forget it. |
| 20:55.59 | asg | litb: apt-get, dpkg, aptitude (maybe) |
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| 20:56.43 | Illarane|Laptop | And a line like "fix your sources.list" does not help me, either. |
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| 20:57.17 | eastwood | just delete everything and add those i sent you |
| 20:57.21 | litb | asg: and some graphically glitch? |
| 20:57.24 | Illarane|Laptop | Fix it how? What's wrong with it? Where should I be looking for fixes? Why can't people actually answer questions instead of making unhelpful statements? |
| 20:57.28 | eastwood | apt-get update after that |
| 20:57.57 | asg | litb: kpackage |
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| 20:58.13 | eastwood | Illarane|Laptop, you are mixing sid, etch and sarge |
| 20:58.18 | eastwood | which aint good |
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| 20:58.37 | streuner | ok, usually you need 2-3 lines for official sources in debian |
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| 20:59.04 | streuner | you have unofficial sources, plus sources which are totally wrong in your sources.list |
| 20:59.25 | Illarane|Laptop | I'm not just using official sources, though, and I didn't realise I had any that were 'wrong'. |
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| 21:00.16 | asg | Illarane|Laptop: mixing stable, testing, and unstable is going to cause problems. If you've done a 'dist-upgrade' recently, you are now probably running unstable fully. |
| 21:00.51 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: Do you know 'bobbitt'? |
| 21:00.56 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 21:00.57 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 21:01.12 | evilgeek | haha. |
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| 21:01.18 | Illarane|Laptop | I have no idea who Lorena Bobbitt is. |
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| 21:01.31 | Illarane|Laptop | However, that would explain why it tries to reinstall KDE. |
| 21:01.43 | stoned | hmm |
| 21:01.48 | stoned | she cut off her husbands dick |
| 21:01.48 | eastwood | downgrade |
| 21:01.52 | stoned | then the sewed it back on |
| 21:01.58 | stoned | bigger, better, and UNCUT! |
| 21:01.59 | rhys | ....this is odd. i have 4 SCP transfers up. each has about 300kb/s transfer speed, on a 100mbit network...and yet the windows task manager says im using 15% of the network |
| 21:02.09 | seb- | when download kernel source *where* does it go? |
| 21:02.13 | Illarane|Laptop | No, I still have a dependencies list a mile long for MUSE. |
| 21:02.16 | rhys | is that simply because PSCP is transfering small files? |
| 21:02.17 | asg | seb-: /usr/src |
| 21:02.38 | stoned | that was also the title of the first Southpark movie |
| 21:02.49 | asg | yes, it was |
| 21:02.49 | piper69 | asg: can you help me on how to compile a pkg |
| 21:02.51 | seb- | asg: thanks |
| 21:03.13 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: you need one for the official packages and one of security... |
| 21:03.17 | jelly | rhys: 1200*8 is about 10% of 100mbit, add protocol overhead... |
| 21:03.23 | abrotman | rhys: get a faster computer |
| 21:03.26 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: (line) |
| 21:03.37 | asg | piper69: there is some documentation (/msg dpkg mg) however, if you can't get backports to work, just compile it from source and stuff it in /usr/local. |
| 21:03.54 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: if you want some stuff from demudi, another one. |
| 21:04.00 | Illarane|Laptop | I don't think you're quite getting the point of the question I'm asking... |
| 21:04.01 | streuner | but NOT more! |
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| 21:04.15 | Illarane|Laptop | Why does apt think that QT is not installed? |
| 21:04.15 | rhys | abrotman. whats that have to do with it? |
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| 21:04.38 | Illarane|Laptop | And why does it try to upgrade what I think is qt 3.3 to qt 3.2? |
| 21:04.44 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: because debian installs it not the way qt-apps like it? |
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| 21:04.58 | rhys | jelly, 100mbit has a full transfer of like 12mbyte/s |
| 21:04.59 | piper69 | asg: please can you show me how, i downloaded a tar.gz and i used unp to extract it, now i need to compile and make ,make it and install but i don't know how |
| 21:05.03 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: well, for the last question, scroll what we told you. |
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| 21:05.14 | jelly | rhys: yes. so? |
| 21:05.26 | ryantrip | i dont know which version of debian is right for me. do i need the alpha, arm, hppa, ect? i have a 433 mhz computer, which is i810 |
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| 21:05.43 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: s/scroll/scroll up/ |
| 21:05.45 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: If I'd installed QT3 with those sources in place, then maybe that would be the answer I'm looking for, however, I didn't. |
| 21:05.47 | rhys | jelly, k. just making sure my calc was right |
| 21:06.01 | evilgeek | ryantrip: your computer is likely an x86 machine. |
| 21:06.04 | asg | piper69: in the extracted tarball there are usually README and INSTALL files. Read them. Before you compile, make sure you have installed the 'build-essential' package. |
| 21:06.10 | evilgeek | (that is, 'i386') |
| 21:06.18 | ryantrip | evilgeek: thanks |
| 21:06.33 | abrotman | rhys: it is scp .. you have to encrypt everything .. but yes .. i was joking |
| 21:06.34 | Illarane|Laptop | In fact, I've not touched any of the 'core' packages since I installed from the CDs. I've added a few things, but I've not upgraded things like QT or KDE. |
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| 21:06.38 | abrotman | yeesh .. some people |
| 21:06.47 | abrotman | rhys: btw .. next time .. ask #windows |
| 21:06.54 | asg | piper69: I would, however, get the backports working before compiling. |
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| 21:06.59 | asg | abrotman: that's why we use hardware crypto |
| 21:07.04 | rhys | true. the whole point of the SCP transfers is for the repository. :D |
| 21:07.09 | piper69 | asg: 'build-essential' :s |
| 21:07.15 | rhys | abrotman, sorry. didnt get the joke in that. :\ |
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| 21:07.35 | piper69 | asg: but i need the leatest relase which is 1.2.9.1 |
| 21:07.41 | asg | piper69: a meta-package that installs things like the compiler, make, libc6-dev, etc. Seriously, if the 1.0.7 version will not work for you, get the backports. |
| 21:08.00 | ryantrip | evilgeek: now i see a bunch of binaries from 1-14. what does each one mean and which one should i get? |
| 21:08.11 | jelly | rhys: selecting the blowfish cipher instead of (sometimes default) 3des might make it go faster. blowfish is less cpu intensive. You can also try enabling compression. |
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| 21:08.29 | abrotman | asg: you should use pancakes instead |
| 21:08.32 | asg | piper69: you *might* try a simple sid backport (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) though I very much doubt it will be simple |
| 21:08.34 | Breeder | hi, there is any way of only update the packages that dont have open bug reports? |
| 21:08.38 | rhys | i put thttpd on my IP cop box, and threw in a 20gb hdd... and ive finnaly figured out how to get the repository working with cds, with no fucking with it. i just left dists and pool, then im copying them all to their own folders on the IPcop box, then just making a sources list that goes right along wit hit |
| 21:09.10 | rhys | all 14 cds worth of packages for x86, for my little dialup network! |
| 21:09.12 | rhys | :d |
| 21:09.20 | abrotman | so don't download 14CDs |
| 21:09.21 | asg | Illarane|Laptop: we can't help you because your system is in a woefully inconsistent state. Re-install Debian 3.1 and come back. |
| 21:09.21 | rhys | jelly, ill check that |
| 21:09.39 | ryantrip | abrotman: then i just chose one? |
| 21:09.40 | rhys | abrotman ...already did. |
| 21:09.47 | abrotman | ryantrip: eh ? |
| 21:09.59 | rhys | ryantrip, get the first one |
| 21:10.02 | abrotman | ryantrip: oh .. those are all the binary packages for Debian |
| 21:10.05 | abrotman | !d-i ryantrip |
| 21:10.06 | dpkg | ryantrip, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:10.10 | abrotman | assuming you have broadband |
| 21:10.25 | ryantrip | i how 1.5 mbs dsl |
| 21:10.28 | ryantrip | i think it works |
| 21:10.31 | rhys | ryantrip, get the netinstall cd then |
| 21:10.45 | ryantrip | i dont know how to use it |
| 21:11.00 | rhys | ryantrip...its your internet connection. your talking on it |
| 21:11.06 | rhys | ryantrip, its working |
| 21:11.16 | abrotman | you're |
| 21:11.16 | ryantrip | yes, but how do i use the net install? |
| 21:11.24 | abrotman | stick it in your CD drive .. boot |
| 21:11.25 | abrotman | !ig |
| 21:11.26 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 21:14.27 | h3sp4wn | Anyone have any ideas why building a kernel image with 'make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom4 --append-to-version=-v1 binary' would work fine with the machine it was compiled in (installing with dpkg -i) but not include the initrd if I try to install it on another machine ? (Identical hardware) |
| 21:14.40 | litb | asg: would you suggest synaptic ? |
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| 21:14.57 | asg | litb: personally, no. Others might though. |
| 21:15.12 | h3sp4wn | Is there a proper way to build kernels (for installation onto another machine) |
| 21:15.34 | sclebo05 | h3sp4wn: if you explode the package, is the initrd in there ? |
| 21:15.42 | asg | h3sp4wn: if they are for the same architecture, /msg dpkg kp mantra (and copy the resultant deb over) |
| 21:15.55 | h3sp4wn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.35 | asg | h3sp4wn: are they running identical versions of Debian? |
| 21:16.46 | h3sp4wn | Yes |
| 21:17.05 | h3sp4wn | The kernel works fine on the one I built it on - I will try the mantra |
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| 21:17.41 | bluefox83 | ok..back to fixing my sound... |
| 21:17.47 | asg | h3sp4wn: also, don't forget to pay attention to the final sentence of the kp mantra |
| 21:17.53 | madclicker | how can i set motd to read the username on login. Like "Welcome $user" ? |
| 21:18.11 | streuner | man motd, man issue, man login |
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| 21:19.22 | h3sp4wn | asg: I have seen it and taken account already |
| 21:19.29 | asg | good lad |
| 21:19.49 | stoned | streuner, you know, I think we could all use a " man woman " page |
| 21:19.50 | stoned | :/ |
| 21:20.14 | asg | stoned: it's in the asr-manpages or funny-manpages package |
| 21:20.30 | stoned | asg, yes but I mean like a really serious one |
| 21:20.31 | stoned | :D |
| 21:20.38 | bluefox83 | ok, i need help with my sound setup, i'm using alsa, my sound card is a sound blaster Live! and i have a Logitech Usb headset, i need them both to run correctly |
| 21:20.58 | asg | stoned: the ones in Section 3 are hot |
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| 21:21.17 | bluefox83 | and for some reason, when i start up debian, all my alsa settings are gone |
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| 21:22.13 | stoned | lol |
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| 21:23.47 | abrotman | man alsactl ? |
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| 21:26.56 | meriad | hey, i have this bash script that remotely, via ssh, runs apache2 restart, yet every so often it fails to restart it causing the web server not to start again, im wondering what could cause this problem and why it's happening, furthermore I was wondering if there was a way to fix it, permentantly. |
| 21:27.32 | abrotman | ask #bash ? |
| 21:27.44 | stoned | either I'm retarded or the man page is unclear, what exactly is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 21:28.02 | jonnylamb | meriad: and when you do ask them, paste the script into pastebin- it's a lot more helpful |
| 21:28.08 | stoned | could anyone kindly shed some light on it for me |
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| 21:28.43 | bluefox83 | upgrade simply upgrades your standard software, dist-upgrade upgrades everything available |
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| 21:28.50 | stoned | I see |
| 21:28.53 | asg | stoned: dist-upgrade has better dependancy handling but will remove packages as needed while upgrade won't |
| 21:29.02 | stoned | ahh |
| 21:29.05 | abrotman | stoned: it's pretty obvious! |
| 21:29.09 | abrotman | bluefox83: no it doesn't |
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| 21:29.16 | stoned | well, it isn't in the freaking apt how to |
| 21:29.21 | stoned | or I wasn't able to find it |
| 21:29.28 | bluefox83 | abrotman, so glad you cleared that up..i didn't think what i was saying sounded right o.o |
| 21:29.35 | abrotman | bluefox83: it can still hold stuff back |
| 21:29.37 | meriad | jonnylamb- ahh :P i didn't post the url? |
| 21:29.57 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.59 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.59 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.14 | jonnylamb | meriad: "i have this bash script" - it seems not! |
| 21:30.26 | stoned | me no speaka englesh |
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| 21:31.10 | meriad | the URL for the script is: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vXSFh423.html |
| 21:31.56 | h3sp4wn | sclebo05: Is explode a package ? I was just using using ar -x and then extracting data.tar.gz - but /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17.4-rt7-v1 was not there (but it installed fine on this system) hopefully it will work fine with the mantra |
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| 21:36.06 | raf256 | are we moving to OFTC? |
| 21:36.13 | raf256 | the OFTC #debian is x3 smaller |
| 21:36.32 | streuner | irc.debian.org changed to OFTC |
| 21:36.35 | streuner | that's all |
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| 21:38.23 | raf256 | hmm debian.org servers where compromised? wtf? |
| 21:38.28 | raf256 | don't they use grsecurity? |
| 21:38.47 | abrotman | dude .. |
| 21:39.05 | stoned | good god |
| 21:39.08 | raf256 | what? |
| 21:39.12 | abrotman | i can't even begin to comprehend what goes on in his head |
| 21:39.17 | stoned | abrotman, don't even both man |
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| 21:39.23 | stoned | bother* |
| 21:39.28 | raf256 | what??? |
| 21:39.30 | abrotman | raf256: where does it say any server was comprmised? |
| 21:39.34 | abrotman | bah .. stupid keyboard |
| 21:39.42 | stoned | abrotman, well actually it is true |
| 21:39.47 | raf256 | in "compromise of gluck.debian.org, lock down of other debian.org machine" ? |
| 21:39.47 | stoned | !gluck |
| 21:39.47 | abrotman | yes .. like four years ago |
| 21:39.51 | stoned | or whatever |
| 21:39.52 | asg | abrotman: someone mentioned it on debian-devel earlier today |
| 21:39.54 | streuner | abrotman: read d-d-a |
| 21:39.57 | raf256 | Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:24 +0100 |
| 21:39.58 | abrotman | again! |
| 21:39.59 | vin` | since a month or so the colors in videos are really off (.avi, mp4 with mplayer, totem, kino etc.), has anyone experienced anything similar? |
| 21:40.01 | stoned | yes |
| 21:40.01 | stoned | again |
| 21:40.11 | raf256 | abrotman: and appologizes...? |
| 21:40.14 | abrotman | streuner: not subsribed .. not enough lesbians |
| 21:40.19 | stoned | lol |
| 21:40.24 | abrotman | raf256: no .. i still don't understand you half the time :) |
| 21:40.28 | bluefox83 | where can i fond the log of all the modules debian tries to load into the kernel when it starts up? |
| 21:40.32 | raf256 | but this time I was correct |
| 21:40.32 | bluefox83 | *find |
| 21:40.34 | streuner | abrotman: well, you'll need it... |
| 21:40.45 | abrotman | streuner: need what? |
| 21:40.49 | raf256 | stoned: and you? what you find wrong with my question? |
| 21:41.03 | streuner | info what's going on, before you answer? |
| 21:41.23 | stoned | raf256, dude, every single time you come in here, you have some negative disrespectful shit to say about debian or its developers |
| 21:41.23 | raf256 | I am just intrigged why such serious server seem to not use grsecurity or other additional strong kernel level protection |
| 21:41.29 | stoned | ALWAYS |
| 21:41.31 | stoned | I can pullup logs if you wish |
| 21:41.32 | raf256 | where O_o ? |
| 21:41.48 | raf256 | I ASKED if they did or did not use something like grsecurity |
| 21:42.02 | raf256 | like SeLinux |
| 21:42.07 | asg | raf256: it was likely compromised in the same way most everything else is compromised (accidentally sending a password in plaintext from A to B) |
| 21:42.18 | abrotman | raf256: you'd have to ask the ftp masters |
| 21:42.28 | streuner | What kind of troll are you, thinking you have more knowledge about security? |
| 21:43.12 | asg | streuner: he may be DJB in disguise |
| 21:43.56 | asg | s/may be/may have been/ |
| 21:44.17 | streuner | caphuso usually banned him :-) |
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| 21:44.27 | asg | but caphuso isn't here anymore :( |
| 21:44.35 | streuner | hehe |
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| 21:44.51 | abrotman | and greycat usually .. crap |
| 21:44.56 | abrotman | or there was that time bob2 .. shit! |
| 21:45.00 | asg | hehe |
| 21:45.38 | abrotman | it'd be funny if it weren't so sad :) |
| 21:45.46 | asg | indeed |
| 21:46.01 | asg | abrotman: we have stew but he's off riding something ... a bike I think |
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| 21:46.18 | abrotman | i wish .. it's raining |
| 21:46.39 | asg | abrotman: I hope it does rain so I don't have to water the tree |
| 21:46.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 21:47.56 | ryantrip | does debian have live updates? |
| 21:48.09 | asg | ryantrip: define 'live update' |
| 21:48.33 | ryantrip | asg: it updates its self over the net |
| 21:48.40 | asg | ryantrip: yes |
| 21:48.47 | ryantrip | asg: thank you |
| 21:48.51 | asg | ryantrip: you're welcome |
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| 21:49.18 | Piet | hmm, could someone help me with a permissions issue with vsftpd? i'm trying to make local users upload with 777 (silly, I know), have set file_open_mode=0777 and local_umask=000, and, of course, restarted the daemon. however, any files I upload end up as -rw-r--r-- |
| 21:49.26 | Piet | it seems to ignore file_open_mode and local_umask completely |
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| 21:49.41 | Piet | ... |
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| 21:50.03 | asg | Piet: did you check with #vsftpd? |
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| 21:50.30 | Piet | asg: i tried, but it's quite calm there |
| 21:50.38 | catch23 | hi, is there something like quota, but for cpu time? so that I could give away a virtualized instance without the instance using more than 20% of my cpu time? |
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| 21:51.05 | Piet | i would thunk there's a couple people who use vsftpd in generel, so... |
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| 21:51.19 | jelly | is this program overusing memory: 30104 jelly 0 0 1701m 149m 12m S 4.6 30.1 138:53.97 opera |
| 21:51.56 | stoned | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00003.html |
| 21:52.09 | simonrvn | catch23: yes, in sid there's a new package called cpulimit |
| 21:52.09 | stoned | thats the one |
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| 21:52.39 | catch23 | simonrvn: ah wonderful |
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| 21:53.34 | stoned | Sin City |
| 21:53.52 | catch23 | wow cpulimit is first hit on google |
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| 21:54.10 | TGoC | Hello, Can i symlink every file in 1 directory into another directory? for like ln public_html/ public_ssl/ |
| 21:54.24 | stoned | I'm so paranoid, I've configured my bios to throttle cpu at 75% at a certain temperature |
| 21:54.30 | catch23 | yeah just do ln -s * . |
| 21:54.52 | catch23 | TGoC: yeah just do ln -s * . |
| 21:55.22 | TGoC | catch23 i know i have to specify -s |
| 21:55.26 | TGoC | But the problem is |
| 21:55.30 | TGoC | if i do that map |
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| 21:55.42 | TGoC | the map get's put in public_ssl/public_html |
| 21:55.59 | TGoC | i want public_html content symlinked into public_ssl |
| 21:56.17 | TGoC | so if i try to reach public_ssl/index that i get public_html/index |
| 21:56.39 | catch23 | TGoC: huh? so just go in your public_ssl directory and do a ln -s ../public_html/* . |
| 21:57.01 | Kassah | Does there happen to be a HOWTO or Tutorial for switching from the debian default exim to postfix |
| 21:57.04 | TGoC | k |
| 21:57.20 | Kassah | I've been browsing around since earlier yesterday... and have been unable to find anything |
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| 21:57.35 | streuner | Kassah: there are HOWTO's using both... |
| 21:57.35 | TGoC | ok thanks catch23 |
| 21:57.59 | Kassah | streuner: happen to have a URL? |
| 21:58.27 | streuner | so you want run your own mail-server? |
| 21:58.37 | Kassah | no... I only want outgoing mail |
| 21:58.42 | Kassah | I run my own mail server elsewhere |
| 21:58.53 | streuner | well, just apt-get install <package> |
| 21:58.54 | Kassah | the machine I just installed... doesn't need one |
| 21:58.55 | TGoC | catch23 i have that now, problem is i have to keep making the symlink to get new files symlinked aswell |
| 21:59.00 | TGoC | Can i automate that process? |
| 21:59.19 | TGoC | So that if i add something to public_html, it automaticly get's symlinked in the public_ssl? |
| 21:59.23 | catch23 | TGoC: yeah, if you know a scripting language, you can do it |
| 21:59.32 | CHodapp | So I just installed Debian for AMD64... and I saw it installing OpenOffice packages... but I thought they didn't exist yet for 64-bit. Someone want to explain? |
| 21:59.49 | TGoC | There is no ln tag to do it refreshratingly? |
| 21:59.59 | catch23 | CHodapp: they don't... you probably have the non-binary packages :P |
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| 22:00.15 | CHodapp | catch23, ah, ok |
| 22:00.37 | CHodapp | I just have to see if I can make Madwifi work |
| 22:00.48 | CHodapp | I know no packages exist but hopefully there's enough on disk 1 that I can build from source |
| 22:01.22 | piper69 | how do i compile ????????? |
| 22:01.34 | TGoC | by using a compiler piper69? |
| 22:01.42 | simonrvn | !tell piper69 about ep |
| 22:01.44 | RvGaTe | Im getting these error when i try to upgrade packages... |
| 22:01.46 | simonrvn | !b-e piper69 |
| 22:01.47 | dpkg | piper69: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 22:01.47 | RvGaTe | E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 22:01.47 | RvGaTe | E: Unable to lock the download directory |
| 22:01.50 | catch23 | piper69: or you can do javac <filename> or ruby <filename> |
| 22:01.53 | Kassah | streuner: hmm... I'm looking at the config options... 'No Config', 'Internet Site', 'Internet Site using Smart Host', 'Satallite System', 'Local Delivery Only'... which one will deliver mail directly to the target mail server... yet not deal with incomming mail |
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| 22:03.04 | Kassah | I don't want to bog down my main incomming server with outgoing mail :( |
| 22:03.05 | catch23 | Kassah: I believe you dont' even need exim or anything if you just want to send mail... just make sure you got an smtp server setup somewhere |
| 22:03.52 | asg | Kassah: use ssmtp or nullmailer to quickly forward mail to another smarthost |
| 22:04.24 | piper69 | catch23: but can you show me how to compile the file, please |
| 22:04.30 | Kassah | asg: that's the thing... I don't want to use a smarthost.... |
| 22:04.45 | catch23 | piper69: what's the filename? |
| 22:04.58 | Kassah | asg: my smarthost box (about 2U above this one) is bogged down already... |
| 22:05.20 | asg | Kassah: time to provision a second one then |
| 22:05.22 | piper69 | catch23: asterisk.1.2.9.1.tar.gz |
| 22:05.38 | catch23 | piper69: you don't need to compile that... just install it with apt-get |
| 22:06.27 | piper69 | catch23: but i can't get ver 1.2.9.1 |
| 22:07.09 | Piet | w00t-: are you a script? |
| 22:07.21 | RvGaTe | Can anyone help me with my problem? (posted few minutes ago) |
| 22:07.56 | jelly | RvGaTe: look for hanging apt-get processes. |
| 22:07.57 | Piet | RvGaTe: you likely have another apt process running |
| 22:08.26 | Piet | RvGaTe: ps aux | grep apt |
| 22:08.31 | asg | piper69: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 (download that book. Read it. It has compilation instructions) |
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| 22:09.39 | ryantrip | at start up, my computer gets hung up on "insmode: Notes: /ect/modules.config is more recent than /lib/moduels/2.4.27-2-386/modules.dep" how can i make it boot? |
| 22:09.47 | RvGaTe | thx, there was indeed another process... |
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| 22:11.05 | asg | ryantrip: try running 'depmod -a' as root once you have managed to boot the system |
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| 22:12.24 | ryantrip | asg: i dont understand |
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| 22:13.52 | asg | ryantrip: boot to single mode |
| 22:14.27 | Kassah | does /srv have some special purpose... or can I put my www folder there? |
| 22:15.01 | ryantrip | single mod? how do i do that? all i see is the default one and then the recovery mode in GNU Grub |
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| 22:15.57 | asg | ryantrip: when grub comes up, hit 'e'. Scroll down to the kernel line and append ' single' to the end. Type 'b' to continue booting. |
| 22:16.03 | mtomczak | Hey, is there one unified place where you can send server breakin attempt notifications? Like some sort of server-hack equivalent of the anti-spam projects? |
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| 22:17.12 | ryantrip | asg: its still stuck at the same part |
| 22:17.14 | asg | mtomczak: not really but there are a number of consortia that are working to come up with something. There's one at U Chicago iirc. |
| 22:17.37 | asg | ryantrip: is this a brand new install or have you *altered* something on what otherwise was a working system? |
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| 22:17.53 | ryantrip | asg: its brand new |
| 22:18.15 | ryantrip | asg: i do have an old machine though, 433 mhz |
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| 22:18.43 | stew | raf256: how would grsecurity have prevented this compromise? |
| 22:19.02 | asg | ryantrip: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password (If that doesn't get you to a root shell, then you probably will have to re-install and use the linux26 boot) |
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| 22:19.54 | asg | ryantrip: also, you could use the installer as a rescue disk, mount the '/' partition, chroot to it, and run 'depmod -a'. Might be worth running 'update-modules' while you're at it. |
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| 22:20.20 | ryantrip | i dont realy know how to do any of that |
| 22:20.28 | asg | stew: has the extent of the compromise been published yet? |
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| 22:20.42 | stew | asg: no |
| 22:20.45 | asg | ryantrip: when it gets to that point, does typing 'CTRL+C' allow things to continue? |
| 22:21.37 | streuner | stew: i think he young |
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| 22:21.43 | streuner | is* |
| 22:21.48 | schippes | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.13 | Piet | no thanks, why don't _you_? |
| 22:22.22 | ryantrip | asg: i tried single mode and the same thingg happened |
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| 22:22.38 | asg | ryantrip: did you try the instructions in the factoid (/msg dpkg i forgot root's password) ? |
| 22:22.54 | streuner | i think he realized just now what bs he said |
| 22:22.59 | ryantrip | i asked dpkg but he hasnt responded |
| 22:23.02 | seb- | asg: may i ask you how get .config for kernel source? |
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| 22:23.15 | asg | !tell ryantrip about i forgot root's password |
| 22:23.19 | seb- | asg: i know how to make one...i'd like one debian used |
| 22:23.27 | asg | seb-: it's in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 22:23.43 | seb- | asg: thanks again! ;> |
| 22:23.48 | asg | seb-: you're welcome |
| 22:23.51 | asg | ryantrip: did you get it that time |
| 22:23.55 | mtomczak | asg: Good! It seems both a good idea and infinitely abusable :-p |
| 22:24.16 | ryantrip | asg: what dpkg said? yes |
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| 22:25.26 | asg | mtomczak: yes, I think most of them are educationally based and rely on some sort of trust relationship established between institutions. |
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| 22:26.55 | rshakin | haha i just got my mail working... yay for meeh now i have mail ;) |
| 22:27.07 | rshakin | sorry had to be happy about it.... :) |
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| 22:29.48 | karma | Hi, I'm having issues with my X.Org 7.0 on Etch. I've got the binary-only Nvidia drivers installed, and a recent package upgrade overwrote an Nvidia file that broke OPenGL rendering, so I reinstalled the Nvidia drivers. |
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| 22:30.31 | karma | I already did this on one Etch machine successfully, but on the second one, after reinstalling the Nvidia drivers X.Org says it cannot load module "nvidia" and says no drivers exist. |
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| 22:31.49 | Gokee2 | My computer has developed disappearing text. In chat windows buttons basically every program text just goes away. The first part is normally there put after a few words its gone. If its a button putting the mouse over it to select it makes the text come back, if its selectable text selecting it lets me see it. Other then that its gone... Any ideas? |
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| 22:32.26 | jonnylamb | karma: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the "Files" section near the top, make sure the ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" is present |
| 22:32.33 | ryantrip | asg: i dont get any of it |
| 22:32.48 | ryantrip | asg: this is my first time with linux |
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| 22:33.41 | asg | ryantrip: well, if this is your first time running any GNU/Linux system, you might try something like Ubuntu to get your feet wet. |
| 22:34.04 | ryantrip | asg: i tired that last time, i got errors on that too |
| 22:34.18 | ryantrip | asg: but it has hardware driver errors |
| 22:34.46 | asg | ryantrip: hmmm, okay. What hardware are you currently trying to run Debian on? |
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| 22:35.20 | ryantrip | asg: i dont know too much, but i know its 433 mhz, with 191 mb of ram |
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| 22:36.05 | asg | ryantrip: oh, okay. Did the installer complete and this error occur on the first reboot or did you never finish the installer? |
| 22:36.49 | ken | I am using the stock debian-3.1-r2 installation dvd set. If I update to the kernel from sid so that I can get my usb compact flashcard reader to work, will it break everything? |
| 22:36.58 | ryantrip | asg: the first boot into it. |
| 22:37.06 | asg | ken: yes |
| 22:37.15 | ken | Thanks |
| 22:37.25 | asg | ken: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 22:37.43 | asg | ken: also, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
| 22:38.14 | asg | ryantrip: when you installed, did you just hit enter at the installer boot: prompt? |
| 22:38.21 | ken | are you saying there is a sarge compatible 2.6.16 or 2.6.16 kernel that I can install? |
| 22:38.32 | asg | ken: yes, there is a backported kernel. |
| 22:38.46 | ryantrip | asg: it asked me stuff like language, so i selected the right ones |
| 22:38.57 | lunitik | This is offtopic, but anyone happen to know how to make Linspire leave config files alone? |
| 22:39.01 | asg | ken: just installing stuff from sid will break things; the backports use sarge libs and infrastructure to recompile sid packages for sarge. |
| 22:39.11 | lunitik | I keep fixing things via config files, and it keeps breaking them again... grrr |
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| 22:39.28 | RvGaTe | how do i upgrade my kernel to 2.6.16-2-486 ? |
| 22:39.32 | asg | ryantrip: right but when the installer splash screen came up, did you just hit the ENTER key |
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| 22:39.39 | lunitik | RvGaTe: no such kernel |
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| 22:39.52 | lunitik | RvGaTe: pentium II or greater? |
| 22:39.55 | ryantrip | asg: i dont renember, why? |
| 22:40.05 | lunitik | RvGaTe: then you want 'linux-image-2.6-k7' |
| 22:40.13 | nima | how do i change the time format in gnome? |
| 22:40.14 | RvGaTe | alright... |
| 22:40.14 | lunitik | RvGaTe: then you want 'linux-image-2.6-686' * |
| 22:40.19 | ryantrip | asg: oh yes i hit enter enstead of help |
| 22:40.22 | ken | I am a newbie that kernel is not on the dvd set, is it on the servers like http://http.us.debian.org Debian3.1-r2 tree?, and Do I just add that to my sources.list, apt-get update, and apt-get install kernel-2.6.15? |
| 22:40.39 | asg | ryantrip: well, there are two installer kernels, a 2.4.x version and a 2.6.x version. Typing 'linux26' at the boot: splash screen will use the newer 2.6.8 kernel and may prevent the issue. |
| 22:40.56 | asg | !tell ken about sarge 2.6.16 |
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| 22:41.07 | ryantrip | asg: ok |
| 22:41.09 | asg | ken: follow the instructions the bot just gave you |
| 22:41.34 | RvGaTe | lunitik, thx, installing.. |
| 22:41.47 | Agrajag- | gday, looking at http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=deskbar-applet it seems the only reason it's not in testing yet is because it's not built on a few architectures. how is that building done? manually? |
| 22:42.05 | stew | Agrajag-: no its done automatically |
| 22:42.07 | asg | Agrajag-: it's autobuilt |
| 22:42.12 | stew | Agrajag-: anytime a new source is uploaded |
| 22:42.28 | asg | Agrajag-: some arches are slower build machines or need patches to make them compile |
| 22:42.40 | asg | s/are/have/ |
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| 22:43.09 | stew | Agrajag-: and if the build failure is believed to be caused by another package which has been fixed, the RM can trigger a new build |
| 22:43.18 | ryantrip | asg: lol it froze at the first language selection |
| 22:43.51 | asg | ryantrip: okay, try the other way again. If it freezes again, there is likely a hardware issue at work. |
| 22:43.59 | ryantrip | ok |
| 22:44.31 | stew | Agrajag-: that package has release critical bugs, so that is also preventing it. in this case "not yet built" actually means "the build failed" and it looks like its because of missing build deps, so its going to require a new upload to fix |
| 22:44.34 | Agrajag- | asg/stew thanks |
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| 22:45.18 | ryantrip | asg: odd.. now the keyboard workss |
| 22:45.24 | ryantrip | with the default installer |
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| 22:47.24 | CHodapp | I've got a problem here... I'm on AMD64 and I need Madwifi in order to get online, and no packages exist. I've tried downloading on another distro and trying to install those packages, but there is an endless barrage of dependencies. |
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| 22:48.12 | ryantrip | asg: why wouldnt the keyboard work on the linux26? |
| 22:48.28 | CHodapp | Anyone have ideas? |
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| 22:54.52 | ryantrip | asg: are you there? |
| 22:56.14 | asg | ryantrip: sorry, was afk for a few |
| 22:56.21 | ryantrip | ok |
| 22:56.37 | ryantrip | asg: the keyboard works on the normal installer, but not the linux26 |
| 22:56.48 | Illarane|Laptop | Ok, dist-upgrade craped out on udev telling me to upgrade my kernel. What's the safest, non-breaking-my-pc way to proceed? |
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| 22:57.01 | asg | ryantrip: is it a ps/2, old AT, or usb keyboard? |
| 22:57.11 | ryantrip | asg: usb |
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| 22:57.33 | asg | ryantrip: if you have a BIOS option to enable Legacy USB mode, enable it. |
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| 22:57.47 | ryantrip | asg: how do i enter bios? |
| 22:58.47 | asg | ryantrip: depends on the system. Often F2, F12, DEL while the system is first powered on. It should say on the screen (hopefully) |
| 22:59.54 | ryantrip | wait it is enabled, but now, the computer wont recognize it. it sent me a warning saying keyboard error |
| 23:00.04 | ryantrip | wihen i booted up |
| 23:00.59 | asg | ryantrip: okay, take the installer cd out. Boot the installed Debian. When it hangs can you start going backwards and indicate what is printed. It might be that the error is earlier |
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| 23:01.25 | jbrimble | how do i see all the running processes? |
| 23:01.38 | asg | jbrimble: ps aux |
| 23:01.39 | ApEtc | ps aux |
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| 23:02.10 | ryantrip | asg: my computer is complaing about the keyboard it cant find it, not the cd or the regular start up |
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| 23:02.40 | asg | ryantrip: fully power it off. Wait 20 seconds or so. Power it on. Do things still fail? |
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| 23:03.07 | CHodapp | Someone in another #debian just said to "m-a a-i" a package and then ran away, does anyone have any idea what he meant? |
| 23:03.17 | asg | CHodapp: module-assistant |
| 23:03.31 | streuner | !listvals m-a a-i |
| 23:03.34 | asg | CHodapp: m-a is just a shortcut name, a-i means autoinstall |
| 23:03.37 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'm-a a-i' by value (7): nvidia-kernel ;; nvidia one-liner ;; cmd: m-a (.*?) (.*?) ;; ipw2200 ;; madwifi-install ;; upgrade nvidia ;; ndiswrapper one-liner. |
| 23:03.49 | ryantrip | asg: the keyboard works, i pluged it into my laptop |
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| 23:04.22 | CHodapp | so he just meant a command? |
| 23:04.40 | asg | CHodapp: yes, perhaps if you told us in what context that answer was given, we can be more clear. |
| 23:04.44 | ryantrip | asg: now it works on my pc |
| 23:04.53 | CHodapp | <dondelelcaro> CHodapp: you just need module-assistant and madwifi-source; then m-a a-i madwifi; should build and install the modules for you. |
| 23:04.54 | asg | ryantrip: that sounds like the hardware is going |
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| 23:05.10 | ryantrip | asg: inside my computer? |
| 23:05.11 | asg | CHodapp: and dondelelcaro is correct. apt-get install modules-assistant |
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| 23:05.21 | CHodapp | I can't use apt |
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| 23:05.29 | CHodapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.29 | asg | ryantrip: yes, or the keyboard is going. Do you have another keyboard you could try? |
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| 23:05.37 | ryantrip | asg: no |
| 23:05.41 | dooglus | I'm trying to use 'vncserver' to allow me to connect to my laptop remotely, but when I run the viewer, all I see is a grey screen - no window manager, panels, or anything else. how can I get vncserver to start GNOME or XFCE or, well, anything when I connect to it? |
| 23:05.53 | asg | CHodapp: then get the packages from packages.debian.org with another system and sneaker net them to that system. Or use a cheap ethernet card to get things going. |
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| 23:06.08 | streuner | dpkg madwifi install |
| 23:06.08 | dpkg | madwifi-install is, like, to install madwifi on sarge: add "deb http://debian.isg.ee.ethz.ch/public sarge madwifi" to /etc/apt/sources.list, in etch or sid, ask me about <non-free>, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant madwifi-source kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" (or linux-headers-$(uname -r) for etch or sid)" then: "m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. |
| 23:06.20 | thunder | i need to change aterm config.....how to display aterm window in screen center.....i'm brazilian.... |
| 23:06.36 | ryantrip | asg: now im stuch with the same thing, the keyboard not working in linux26, but in the normal one |
| 23:06.39 | CHodapp | I'm on AMD64, I hope that works. |
| 23:06.45 | CHodapp | And I've got a cheap Ethernet card. That's not the issue. |
| 23:06.58 | streuner | AMD64 is different |
| 23:07.16 | streuner | there are issues which doesn't exist for x86 |
| 23:07.21 | streuner | and vice versa |
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| 23:07.34 | asg | thunder: use the --geometry option to aterm |
| 23:07.48 | jbrimble | I'm trying to configure a users account so that he may log into the server remotely and transfer files (a backup) to his home directory. I've been playing around with SCP for the first time, but when his account logs in via WinSCP he has access to view all the other directories other than his own.How can I restrict him from being able to do this, and limit his visibility to only his home directory and nothing else? |
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| 23:08.05 | asg | jbrimble: did you investigate scponly and rssh |
| 23:08.15 | jbrimble | I've installed scponly |
| 23:08.17 | thunder | asg, |
| 23:08.22 | jbrimble | But what now? |
| 23:08.22 | thunder | help me.... |
| 23:08.26 | thunder | i need to change aterm config.....how to display aterm window in screen center.....i'm brazilian.... |
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| 23:08.34 | deformed | What is the name of the cable that connects your monitor to your computer? I forgot. |
| 23:08.39 | ryantrip | asg: any other sugestions? |
| 23:09.35 | asg | ryantrip: it still sounds like flaky hardware. You could try opening the case, unseating and reseating cards, memory, cables. Give it a good vac since it's probably full of dust and spiders, put it back together and maybe that will help. |
| 23:09.41 | bluefox83 | deformed, monitor cable O.o |
| 23:09.42 | CHodapp | deformed, usually VGA or DVI |
| 23:09.48 | asg | jbrimble: you read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/scponly |
| 23:10.03 | jbrimble | ah, that's where it is |
| 23:10.05 | jbrimble | haha thanks |
| 23:10.08 | ryantrip | asg: its kinda odd, win98 works perfectly |
| 23:10.13 | thunder | deformed, you can help-me? |
| 23:10.14 | deformed | Thankyou CHodapp. |
| 23:10.20 | deformed | thunder, with what? |
| 23:10.22 | thunder | i need to change aterm config.....how to display aterm window in screen center.....i'm brazilian.... |
| 23:10.46 | deformed | Thunder, I do not know, I use eterm. |
| 23:10.50 | deformed | Sorry. =( |
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| 23:11.01 | thunder | but.... |
| 23:11.14 | stoned | !tell thunder -about repeat |
| 23:11.26 | stoned | thunder, that is dependant on your window manager |
| 23:11.38 | stoned | thunder, configure your window manager to place the aterm window in the center of the screen |
| 23:11.48 | thunder | i use fluxbox |
| 23:11.51 | stoned | thunder, for aterm configuratoin, please refer to ~/.Xresources |
| 23:12.02 | stoned | thunder, I don't use it, I don't know, try asking in #fluxbox |
| 23:12.11 | asg | thunder: use xwininfo to find info about the term (after you've sized it the way you want). Then, check the -geometry bit in the output and use 'aterm -geometry ...' |
| 23:12.23 | asg | thunder: also, ask #debian-br if that doesn't make sense |
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| 23:12.47 | stoned | thunder, do what asg said, and place the geometry resource in ~/.Xresources and xrdb -merge the file |
| 23:12.59 | jbrimble | I have another question - How can I make tightVNC load up with Gnome, rather than some failsafe session with just a shell window? |
| 23:13.01 | stoned | thunder, otherwise, start aterm with the -geometry flag |
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| 23:13.30 | asg | jbrimble: feed it a custom .xinitrc or .xsession file (can't remember the command line option) |
| 23:13.45 | ryantrip | asg: wouldnt u think that is win98 works, debian would work too? |
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| 23:14.04 | fujihc | .Xresources aterm*geometry: |
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| 23:14.36 | asg | ryantrip: I would. It's possible that there is just some odd hardware causing issues. Older systems are generally easy to get running but some have really wierd hardware. |
| 23:14.41 | stoned | doesn't gnome have an autostart thingy? |
| 23:14.47 | asg | *weird |
| 23:14.52 | asg | stoned: gdm |
| 23:15.04 | ryantrip | asg: maybe, ever heard of a webpc by dell? |
| 23:15.07 | abrotman | stoned: yes |
| 23:15.08 | stoned | jbrimble, you can start vnc in gnome, and then save your session. It will always start the next time you start gnome/that session |
| 23:15.18 | abrotman | dell is not scottish |
| 23:15.27 | jbrimble | ah, i see. |
| 23:15.28 | stoned | abrotman, man ima spank you |
| 23:15.28 | asg | ryantrip: not familiar with that one but I've run Debian on dells for years and never had a problem. |
| 23:15.29 | Piet | btw, who knows about vsftpd and permissions? i'm trying to make local users upload with 777 (silly, I know), have set file_open_mode=0777 and local_umask=000, and, of course, restarted the daemon. however, any files I upload end up as -rw-r--r-- |
| 23:15.30 | Piet | it seems to ignore file_open_mode and local_umask completely |
| 23:15.31 | stoned | cut it out |
| 23:15.34 | stoned | :( |
| 23:15.55 | abrotman | !pity asg |
| 23:15.56 | dpkg | I pity da fool asg! |
| 23:15.59 | stoned | lol |
| 23:16.14 | stoned | last time I saw him, was Not Another Teen Movie |
| 23:16.42 | abrotman | eh .. in the umbrella hat? |
| 23:16.43 | asg | abrotman: don't make me beat you with the Sparcstation |
| 23:16.50 | stoned | I can't recall |
| 23:17.04 | abrotman | asg: 1+ ? |
| 23:17.11 | asg | abrotman: 20 |
| 23:17.18 | abrotman | IPC? |
| 23:17.29 | asg | abrotman: spoopin has one of those |
| 23:17.34 | abrotman | shoebox |
| 23:17.36 | Illarane|Laptop | Who was it that told me to run apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 23:17.45 | stoned | I think I fucked up on the interview, i might not get hired by dell |
| 23:18.07 | Illarane|Laptop | Whoever it was, consider yourself royally punched in the face, because I told you I was having dependenct issues, and guess what I've got more of now. |
| 23:18.09 | asg | Illarane|Laptop: /lastlog -regex .*ILLa.*dist |
| 23:18.17 | stoned | abrotman, *sigh* a paycheck |
| 23:18.20 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: paste the error |
| 23:18.26 | abrotman | not here .. |
| 23:18.27 | abrotman | !paster |
| 23:18.28 | dpkg | pastebin is, like, a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 23:18.29 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: Duh. |
| 23:18.39 | abrotman | duh? |
| 23:18.39 | Illarane|Laptop | I'm going to delete that message one day. |
| 23:18.47 | abrotman | you'd be surprised what we have to clue people into |
| 23:18.53 | stoned | Illarane|Laptop, have a bad attitude and try to support, horrible idea, so good luck |
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| 23:18.57 | Illarane|Laptop | PEBKAC. |
| 23:18.58 | asg | abrotman: I told him that already |
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| 23:19.09 | stoned | try to get* support |
| 23:19.09 | abrotman | still don't have the paste ... |
| 23:19.11 | stoned | damn keyboard |
| 23:19.14 | stoned | leaving entire words out |
| 23:19.19 | stoned | I tell you its not me, its the keyboard |
| 23:19.22 | abrotman | that's why you didn't get hired :) |
| 23:19.26 | stoned | hey! |
| 23:19.27 | asg | abrotman: he had sarge, etc, sid, demudi sources in his list, had installed who knows what and then complained. |
| 23:19.30 | stoned | :( |
| 23:19.42 | abrotman | "Yes Mr Interviewer, i make great employee dell" |
| 23:19.42 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: The point is I'm now getting so many errors that it's going to be quicker for me to delete everything and start from scratch. |
| 23:19.48 | stoned | dude |
| 23:19.49 | stoned | lol |
| 23:19.50 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: doubtful |
| 23:19.52 | asg | Illarane|Laptop: which is what we suggested earlier |
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| 23:20.04 | abrotman | asg: is this a total sarge/etch/sid mix? |
| 23:20.10 | stoned | almost |
| 23:20.14 | abrotman | nice |
| 23:20.15 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: Unfortunately, yes. |
| 23:20.23 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: didn't anyone tell you not to do that? |
| 23:20.23 | Piet | "Yes, I'd love to work for dell, btw, when will i get the first paycheck?" |
| 23:20.24 | asg | abrotman: hard to say, if you want to sort out how deep the carnage goes, be my guest |
| 23:20.33 | abrotman | asg: can i get wings? |
| 23:20.40 | stoned | abrotman, with Redbull |
| 23:20.41 | stoned | sure |
| 23:20.45 | abrotman | ew |
| 23:20.49 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: I wasn't aware of it at the time. I needed a specific set of packages, and it didn't manifest as a problem until literally just now. |
| 23:20.50 | stoned | ooooh! |
| 23:20.52 | stoned | BURN! |
| 23:20.52 | streuner | haha |
| 23:20.56 | jbrimble | If i've installed too many apps, like scponly, rssh, and others, should I remove them to prevent security holes? |
| 23:21.03 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: You. *face-punch* |
| 23:21.10 | asg | jbrimble: that's a good practice |
| 23:21.11 | stoned | Always Ultra Sure with Wings and .... |
| 23:21.13 | stoned | optional sun roof |
| 23:21.14 | stoned | lol |
| 23:21.22 | stoned | damn the winged pad technology |
| 23:21.27 | abrotman | ok .. well .. we're either going to get a paste or not |
| 23:21.29 | thunder | stoned, ....i'm new user linux;;;;;;how to copy/paste in shell.....example: i copy line from internet and i want paste into shell......how to? |
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| 23:21.37 | stoned | thunder, apt-get install gpm |
| 23:21.44 | asg | thunder: middle mouse button or SHIFT+INSTALL |
| 23:21.53 | streuner | Illarane|Laptop: you ever heard of mhallsmite? |
| 23:21.54 | stoned | thunder, then use the mouse to select, it will get copied, and then use middle mouse button to paste from the buffer |
| 23:22.01 | thunder | i need gpm.... |
| 23:22.08 | asg | thunder: are you running X? |
| 23:22.09 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: This got anything to do with Loretta whassername? |
| 23:22.15 | stoned | bobbit |
| 23:22.23 | abrotman | i knew something was going to break .. damn debian developers .. bunch of code monkeys! |
| 23:22.25 | Piet | "SHIFT+INSTALL"? |
| 23:22.26 | Illarane|Laptop | You forgot a t. |
| 23:22.32 | Illarane|Laptop | But yeah, Loretta Bobbitt. |
| 23:22.37 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: ok .. do we get to see the error or are you going to reinstall ? |
| 23:22.39 | streuner | no, it just describes what you deserve |
| 23:22.59 | thunder | asg, yes |
| 23:23.01 | stoned | insert key |
| 23:23.03 | stoned | man, not install |
| 23:23.03 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: No, because it's too long for me to be able to paste the lot of it into a pastebin. |
| 23:23.13 | stoned | shift + insert |
| 23:23.14 | stoned | ffs |
| 23:23.15 | jelly-ho | stoned: still at cutting-it-off phase? |
| 23:23.25 | stoned | jelly-ho, what dude? |
| 23:23.34 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: it can't be that bad .. i've seen X logs with X configs pasted in there |
| 23:23.51 | Piet | damn, i pressed the install key and it said "Installing KDE, getting 3 zillion petabytes of data, 45,2 billion packages to install, none to remove" |
| 23:23.54 | h3sp4wn | Illarane|Laptop: Are you trying to upgrade to unstable ? |
| 23:24.08 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: did you figure out who told you to do a dist-upgrade ? |
| 23:24.10 | stoned | no no, what, you don't _upgrade_ to sid |
| 23:24.12 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: So, what do I deserve for for coming in here and asking for help fixing an error, getting brushed off and told to run apt-get dist-upgrade, and then being pissed off when it makes the error even worse and is now completely unsavable? |
| 23:24.15 | stoned | sid is not a release to be upgraded to |
| 23:24.18 | jelly-ho | stoned: I've been away for 2 hours, would have thought that Illarane would either give up or solve his/her problem by now. |
| 23:24.18 | Illarane|Laptop | abchirk: Yes, streuner. |
| 23:24.25 | abrotman | !beer abchirk |
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| 23:24.27 | stoned | jelly-ho, ahh that |
| 23:24.35 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: ok .. so you're not going to share the error ? |
| 23:24.39 | Illarane|Laptop | jelly-ho: Well, dist-upgrade takes a while. |
| 23:24.54 | jelly-ho | Illarane|Laptop: true that |
| 23:24.56 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: I can share as much as it as I can fit on a putty terminal. |
| 23:25.04 | abchirk | thx ;) |
| 23:25.10 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: make it bigger! |
| 23:25.14 | abrotman | or put the output in a text file |
| 23:25.15 | stoned | Illarane|Laptop, direct the output > to a file and then upload to pastebin |
| 23:25.17 | h3sp4wn | stoned: So you should just install by debootstrap if you want i t? |
| 23:25.42 | stoned | h3sp4wn, I have no idea what youre asking bout |
| 23:26.05 | streuner | no, you didn't ask for help, you are waiting that somebody fix your box which is almost impossble to fix |
| 23:26.22 | streuner | and you don't accept any help |
| 23:26.29 | Illarane|Laptop | It's a 40K error message. |
| 23:26.32 | cyzie | how do i shrink my partition for linux live install if currently the whole partition is NTFS? |
| 23:26.33 | streuner | sure |
| 23:26.34 | stoned | Illarane|Laptop, http://pastebin.ca/upload.php <-- use this or find another one. Small term window is no excuse |
| 23:26.35 | stoned | :) |
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| 23:26.50 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: that's awesome .. in a sick fun kind of way |
| 23:27.08 | h3sp4wn | stoned: Updateing to unstable was what I thought Illarane|Laptop was trying to do |
| 23:27.36 | abrotman | bah .. Xlog is 67k |
| 23:27.36 | stoned | h3sp4wn, once again, sid is NOT a release, so you can't technically upgrade/update to it |
| 23:27.54 | Illarane|Laptop | The funny thing is, it was working fine until udev crapped out because I have a 2.6.8 kernel and it needs a =>2.6.10 or something, at which point I tried to install said kernel, and it gives me this, as does everything else. |
| 23:28.00 | stoned | h3sp4wn, also I have no idea what that dude is trying to do |
| 23:28.35 | h3sp4wn | stoned: You can run it though with a minor problem every now and then |
| 23:28.37 | Illarane|Laptop | Update everything to the unstable packages, since that's what I'm assuming dist-upgrade does. |
| 23:28.39 | streuner | so you want discuss this issue another time, other than fix the box itself? |
| 23:28.52 | yaarg | cyzie: easiest way is gparted live cd |
| 23:29.08 | stoned | h3sp4wn, I run all 3 |
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| 23:30.19 | cyzie | yaarg, you mean i can use gparted to shrink the NTFS in windows, and then click to install the live CD? |
| 23:30.42 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Sh8f1D34.html |
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| 23:31.03 | jelly-home | cyzie: gparted is a linux gui to parted+friends, you can shrink the ntfs with it. |
| 23:31.08 | abrotman | obviously the problem is kde :) |
| 23:31.14 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: apt-get -f install .. does what? |
| 23:31.14 | stoned | hey! |
| 23:31.16 | streuner | well, if you think you are getting *BETTER* help elsewhere, keep in mind, in some other channels they surely insult and kick you |
| 23:31.17 | jelly-home | cyzie: and it comes in a nice livecd package |
| 23:31.23 | abrotman | stoned: look at the paste . .they're all Qt apps |
| 23:31.30 | stoned | yeh yeh |
| 23:31.35 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: It craps out when trying to install udev. |
| 23:31.41 | Illarane|Laptop | I KNOW THEY'RE ALL QT APPS!!! >.< |
| 23:31.51 | cyzie | jelly-home, sounds good. will give it a try |
| 23:31.54 | Illarane|Laptop | The original question was "why does apt think that QT is not installed?!" |
| 23:32.30 | streuner | well, we answered that too |
| 23:32.36 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: what is the error from udev? |
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| 23:32.44 | abrotman | remember .. i wasn't here 27 hours ago |
| 23:32.48 | streuner | you should pay more attention |
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| 23:33.15 | stoned | hehe |
| 23:34.01 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: Udev complains that the kernel is too old. The kernel complains because initramfs-tools isn't installed (any more, it damn well was), initramfs-tools complains because udev isn't installed. |
| 23:34.09 | Illarane|Laptop | If I try to dpkg -i them together, I get other errors. |
| 23:34.29 | Illarane|Laptop | Hence the reason I'm now downloading ISO images |
| 23:34.39 | infinity1 | anyone good with lvm? |
| 23:34.44 | abrotman | i'd rather see the error pasted |
| 23:35.00 | abrotman | since udev normally says "touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade" or something like that |
| 23:35.28 | Illarane|Laptop | It did |
| 23:35.30 | Illarane|Laptop | I did. |
| 23:35.36 | Illarane|Laptop | And then I got other errors. |
| 23:35.38 | abrotman | is it still there? |
| 23:35.42 | Illarane|Laptop | All dependency errors. |
| 23:35.46 | infinity1 | i have /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-VolGroup00--LogVol02 |
| 23:35.46 | Illarane|Laptop | Yes, it is. |
| 23:35.54 | infinity1 | and i can't delete the logical volume!! |
| 23:36.13 | streuner | abrotman: look at his sources.list |
| 23:36.29 | Illarane|Laptop | My sources.list is now three lines long |
| 23:36.38 | liable | wow, gluck was hacked eh? |
| 23:36.46 | streuner | sure, but the packages are still on the system |
| 23:37.01 | streuner | liable: read d-d-a |
| 23:37.31 | liable | streuner: i did, and it says it was comprimised.. |
| 23:37.33 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: Ugh, hence the attempt to reinstall them. |
| 23:37.45 | streuner | liable: why do you ask then? |
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| 23:38.06 | streuner | reinstall wouldn't work |
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| 23:38.20 | infinity1 | how can i delete logical volume /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-VolGroup00--LogVol02 |
| 23:38.23 | streuner | because it want to install packages which aren't in your sources.list now |
| 23:38.27 | liable | streuner: it was more of a comment, rather than question, and a hope for more information... |
| 23:38.44 | streuner | just wait |
| 23:38.45 | asg | liable: I'm sure the /topic will contain details as soon as they are released. |
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| 23:39.18 | Morydd | does this signify a problem at the server or client end: "mount.nfs: Protocol not supported" |
| 23:39.40 | jcole | if i've got a script that i want to run as a specific user, no matter which person runs it, what is the chmod i do on it? |
| 23:39.50 | asg | Morydd: what is the other end? Another Debian box or something else? |
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| 23:40.06 | liable | asg: yup. was just hoping for some inside goss :) |
| 23:40.09 | asg | jcole: you are better off using sudo |
| 23:40.23 | itchi | Hello my lovely guys :-p |
| 23:40.27 | abrotman | grr |
| 23:40.27 | Morydd | asg: debian box |
| 23:40.31 | asg | liable: I'm sure stew will know before the rest of us |
| 23:40.41 | asg | Morydd: same versions of Debian? |
| 23:40.48 | abrotman | asg: maybe don? |
| 23:41.25 | asg | yeah, maybe don but he's not in here as much |
| 23:41.26 | abrotman | well .. without pasted errors .. i can't help more |
| 23:41.35 | abrotman | maybe he's teaching |
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| 23:42.12 | Morydd | asg: no, client box is testing/unstable (mostly unstable) server is stable |
| 23:42.18 | jbrimble | I'm following instructions here: http://www.fuschlberger.net/programs/ssh-scp-chroot-jail/ ... It's asking me to enter /path/to/chroot-shell... What's the most common thing that I could enter? |
| 23:42.28 | jbrimble | I mean, the default. |
| 23:43.18 | asg | Morydd: well, the unstable/etch box is probably trying to use nfs4 and the sarge box is most likely v3 |
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| 23:45.07 | abrotman | !moo |
| 23:45.07 | Morydd | asg: is there a simple way to check? |
| 23:45.07 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:45.32 | asg | Morydd: I'm not sure offhand, I don't use nfs. Someone else might so posing the question again may be helpful. |
| 23:46.04 | jbrimble | Anyone know what the default chroot-shell path would be? |
| 23:46.09 | Illarane|Laptop | streuner: No, it doesn't. They're all in the sources.list, however the dependency tree is now fucked because everything depends on everything else. |
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| 23:47.12 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: your system knows about the packages now |
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| 23:47.40 | jbrimble | :( |
| 23:48.24 | asg | Morydd: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ (might have some info and debugging tips.) Also, the nfs howto at tldp.org might be worth a look. |
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| 23:49.21 | Illarane|Laptop | abrotman: Yes, and I now can't do anything with it because everything depends on something that won't install because the dependencies aren't met. |
| 23:49.43 | Illarane|Laptop | At least with Windows I'd have already reinstalled by now. |
| 23:49.44 | abrotman | so put the sources back? |
| 23:50.07 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: what sources are you pointing at now? |
| 23:50.09 | Illarane|Laptop | Doesn't fix it, and apt-get update craps out. |
| 23:50.15 | Illarane|Laptop | Official ones. |
| 23:50.18 | abrotman | no shit .. |
| 23:50.23 | abrotman | unstable ? testing? what? |
| 23:51.04 | Illarane|Laptop | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib && deb http://mir2.ovh.net/debian/ stable main contrib non-free && deb http://mir2.ovh.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 23:51.16 | abrotman | yeah .. that won't work |
| 23:51.25 | Illarane|Laptop | That's what eastwood told me to use. |
| 23:51.30 | Illarane|Laptop | Anyway, it's fucked now. |
| 23:51.37 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. you give up .. not my problem |
| 23:51.38 | jelly-home | abrotman: why wouldn't those sources work? |
| 23:51.38 | stoned | Clint? |
| 23:51.49 | stoned | must be a different eastwood |
| 23:51.51 | Illarane|Laptop | Ok, I've been trying to fix this for over three hours. |
| 23:51.57 | abrotman | jelly-home: i don't think kde3.5.3 is all the way in etch yet |
| 23:51.59 | Illarane|Laptop | five, actually. |
| 23:52.08 | Illarane|Laptop | I could have already reinstalled everything in that time. |
| 23:52.24 | Illarane|Laptop | Twice. |
| 23:52.39 | abrotman | jelly-home: this is where chealer comes in handy :) |
| 23:52.42 | Illarane|Laptop | So you might get why I'm a little itsy bisty bit fucked off. |
| 23:53.00 | jelly-home | abrotman: apt-cache policy says 4:3.5.3-1 is in etch. |
| 23:53.05 | rockstar_ | I'm trying to make debs from e17 source, and it errors out with cp:cannot stat './debian/tmp/usr/bin/eet-config': No such file or directory. However, there is a ./debian/tmp/usr/local/bin/eet-config How do I set the path? |
| 23:53.32 | talljon84 | I can't believe I have to ask this question but apparently I'm an idiot tonight. On a debian sarge install, i've set hostname file to "server1" and hosts has the ip address set to both "server1" and the fqdn; however hostname --fqdn reports localhost.localdomain even after a restart. What have I missed? |
| 23:53.32 | abrotman | wtf doesn't libqt3-mt install |
| 23:53.34 | jelly-home | abrotman: sorry. 4:3.5.3-2, same version in testing and unstable. |
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| 23:53.52 | abrotman | jelly-home: i think it's more than one package :) |
| 23:54.08 | jelly-home | Illarane|Laptop: are you using apt-get install ... or aptitude install ... ? |
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| 23:54.18 | polux | hi |
| 23:54.22 | abrotman | i'd rather know why kdelibs4c2a and libqt3-mt won't install |
| 23:54.31 | Illarane|Laptop | abchirk: I don't know? |
| 23:54.38 | jelly-home | abrotman: it is more than one package, but kdebase is a good place to look for the version. |
| 23:54.40 | abchirk | .. :D |
| 23:54.41 | eastwood | abrotman, that's 1 problem i had too |
| 23:54.47 | abrotman | that's what? |
| 23:54.49 | polux | since a week i don't have anti aliased fonts in gtk apps anymore unless i lauch the gnome-settings-daemon |
| 23:54.52 | abrotman | if it's less than 10 .. spell it out :) |
| 23:55.05 | eastwood | some packages depend on kdelibs4 and others on kdelibs4c2a |
| 23:55.06 | abrotman | Illarane|Laptop: and apt-get -f install just dies on udev ? |
| 23:55.08 | jelly-home | Illarane|Laptop: tell you what. Try installing libqt3-mt with dpkg -i for starters. |
| 23:55.11 | polux | i've set the font to anti aliased in ~/.fonts.conf |
| 23:55.20 | polux | and i din't find any clue in the bts |
| 23:55.37 | polux | did any one get the same problem ? |
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| 23:56.54 | Kassah | bah |
| 23:56.56 | Illarane|Laptop | jelly-home: It won't. |
| 23:56.59 | bazz | anyone use kegs to run apple2 stuff? |
| 23:57.03 | Kassah | I just removed all my mysql users |
| 23:57.16 | Kassah | is there a way to completely reconfigure mysql? |
| 23:57.18 | Illarane|Laptop | Because none of its dependencies are met. Because now the entire system is screwwd. |
| 23:57.39 | jelly-home | Illarane|Laptop: ... what error do you get? |
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| 23:59.11 | Illarane|Laptop | jelly-home: There's a pastebin of it somewhere in the above. |
| 23:59.46 | jelly-home | Illarane|Laptop: that is not the paste for dpkg -i libqt3-mt_something, which I suggested. |
