| 00:00.04 | azeem | but I gave my word! |
| 00:00.07 | streuner | you ever heard of magic words? :-) |
| 00:00.15 | streuner | heh |
| 00:00.25 | asg | shazzam! |
| 00:00.39 | petemc | abra cadabra |
| 00:00.53 | asg | walla walla washington |
| 00:00.55 | streuner | sim sala topic? |
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| 00:01.46 | streuner | azeem: you gave your word? |
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| 00:02.14 | simonrvn | i like people who can keep their word |
| 00:02.43 | dabreegster | Magic words? plugh! |
| 00:02.54 | poonj | hey guys...I'm using a filesystem that uses LVM. I tried compiling my custom kernel, but now I'm having trouble booting from it. I am using 2.6.15 and used the default debian kernel config for 2.6.15-1. the grub configuration is the same for the new kernel as it is for the old one. The error I'm getting is that the kernel can't create /dev because the filesystem is Read-only... |
| 00:03.16 | SeanTater | I installed etch, I want sid. I replaced etch with sid in both deb and deb-src lines in sources.list, but apt gives bundles of errors. what lines shoudl I replace them with? |
| 00:03.57 | simonrvn | oh nice... i gotta post this thing |
| 00:04.11 | asg | SeanTater: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 00:04.17 | SeanTater | asg: thx |
| 00:04.27 | petemc | poonj: you created an initrd? |
| 00:04.35 | poonj | petemc, yeah I did |
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| 00:05.18 | petemc | poonj: and configured your bootloader to use it correctly? |
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| 00:05.35 | bronaugh | ok, in debian, what files does bash source on login? |
| 00:05.39 | poonj | well, I don't know if its using it correctly....it didn't boot |
| 00:05.40 | bronaugh | and in what sequence? |
| 00:05.48 | bronaugh | because it doesn't appear to source /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc, etc. |
| 00:05.54 | simonrvn | like it says in the man page |
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| 00:06.12 | poonj | but basically I did a mkinitrd -o initrd-2.6.15 2.6.15 |
| 00:06.26 | poonj | and used that in grub |
| 00:06.36 | petemc | mkintrd is deprecated i believe, try update-initramfs |
| 00:07.41 | poonj | lets give it another try... |
| 00:07.57 | bronaugh | ok... bash.bashrc doesn't get sourced on login. |
| 00:07.58 | bronaugh | profile does. |
| 00:08.26 | bronaugh | is there any reason /etc/profile checks for existence of $PS1? |
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| 00:10.32 | ericP | is there currently a package for lame? |
| 00:10.34 | asg | bronaugh: man bash (/INVOCATION) is a good start |
| 00:10.36 | asg | ericP: /msg dpkg lame |
| 00:10.44 | bronaugh | asg: I read that. |
| 00:10.52 | bronaugh | asg: bash in Debian doesn't follow that at all. |
| 00:11.14 | ericP | sweet, tx asg |
| 00:11.24 | bronaugh | nm. |
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| 00:11.33 | bronaugh | it does. PS1 just gets overwritten like 8 TIMES |
| 00:11.34 | bronaugh | ARRR |
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| 00:11.54 | poonj | thanks petemc it works |
| 00:12.01 | asg | bronaugh: that's called inheritance |
| 00:12.01 | petemc | np |
| 00:12.18 | asg | ericP: you're welcome |
| 00:12.46 | bronaugh | asg: no, it's called idiocy. |
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| 00:13.08 | poonj | petemc, another quick question...I'm also interested in upgrading to the 2.6.16 kernel. I see that the debian repositories has the source. Is there a way to get the default config file for the 2.6.16 kernel without having to install the actual 2.6.16 kernel itself? |
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| 00:13.33 | asg | bronaugh: then use a less idiotic shell |
| 00:13.37 | petemc | poonj: i have it installed, could put the config somewhere |
| 00:13.42 | bronaugh | asg: tempting. |
| 00:13.45 | streuner | extract the deb |
| 00:14.00 | petemc | poonj: i believe the config should be on the mirrors too, tho |
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| 00:14.14 | poonj | petemc, i'm not exactly sure where to get it directly... |
| 00:14.26 | poonj | mirrors as in somewhere on kernel.org? |
| 00:14.33 | petemc | poonj: debian mirrors |
| 00:14.40 | bronaugh | anyhow, solved it. but what a pain. |
| 00:14.47 | poonj | let me see if I can get it... |
| 00:14.59 | bronaugh | default of overwriting $PS1 in /etc/skel is really really stupid. |
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| 00:15.45 | ericP | asg, /me confident he's the first one to ever ask that question this minute (well, here...) |
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| 00:15.50 | petemc | bronaugh: file a bug, bitching about stuff here generally achieves nothing |
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| 00:16.15 | bronaugh | petemc: yeah, you're right. I should. it's a really dumb way of doing things. |
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| 00:16.29 | itchi | Is there some stuff to clean the memory. I mean an clear out unaisecairy stuff out of the RAM, app that are a bit bugy. Or know you the term i need to search to? |
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| 00:16.46 | petemc | itchi: the kernel should handle that |
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| 00:17.37 | itchi | petemc: Hhhm, but i have an app that leave some things in the RAM, i think it's not cleaned. Is there not additional stuff like on that crap of $M? |
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| 00:17.43 | poonj | petemc, http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6.16/ |
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| 00:17.54 | poonj | but they are all deb packages...maybe if I could just extract it? |
| 00:18.10 | streuner | ar x or dpkg -x |
| 00:18.59 | petemc | poonj: i thought the config was there, somewhere, icbw |
| 00:19.05 | poonj | icbw? |
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| 00:19.11 | petemc | i could be wrong |
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| 00:23.26 | poonj | petemc, I got it...I just extracted the config from the linux-image package |
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| 00:23.40 | petemc | all good |
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| 00:23.57 | petemc | what dont the debian kernels have that you need? |
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| 00:26.55 | poonj | ipsec |
| 00:27.12 | poonj | openswan, I'm building it using KLIPS and NAT-T |
| 00:27.19 | poonj | so I have to patch the source and rebuild the kernel |
| 00:27.20 | E-bola | what happens if u shutdownlinux while a software raid5 is rebuilding? |
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| 00:27.54 | Stevie-O | Why not try it and find out? |
| 00:28.01 | E-bola | just did |
| 00:28.06 | Guerin | E-bola: what happen? |
| 00:28.07 | E-bola | power outage |
| 00:28.15 | Guerin | that's not shutdown |
| 00:28.17 | Guerin | that's poweroff |
| 00:28.18 | E-bola | and UPS software decided to shutdown system before i could stop it |
| 00:28.24 | Guerin | hah |
| 00:28.30 | Stevie-O | Technically, I only asked 'why not' |
| 00:28.33 | E-bola | shutdown was clean |
| 00:28.34 | Guerin | so, what happen? |
| 00:28.54 | E-bola | i dont know |
| 00:28.54 | E-bola | cant boot up for some hours now |
| 00:28.54 | E-bola | So im wondering if any of you know? |
| 00:29.01 | E-bola | im asuming rebuilding will just restart |
| 00:29.02 | Stevie-O | never tried it |
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| 00:31.09 | gnuzi | hi all...can i install ipw2200 on kernel 2.4.27?...its says on their website that it needs 2.6.8 |
| 00:31.20 | gnuzi | anyone tried? |
| 00:31.34 | gnuzi | i dont want to upgrade now... |
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| 00:32.03 | AciD | gnuzi > the answer is in you question it seems |
| 00:32.18 | gnuzi | ok... |
| 00:32.36 | gnuzi | just thought to see if anyone tried with older kernel... |
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| 00:38.26 | amphi | gnuzi: ISTR some talk of a backported version, maybe |
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| 00:39.41 | orge | how do you scan a subnet with nmap, i mean let's say 127.1.1.1-127.1.255.255 ? |
| 00:40.13 | orge | let's say i wanted to scan 127.1.1.1-127.1.255.255 for open ports? |
| 00:40.32 | asg | orge: nmap 127.1.1.1/16 |
| 00:40.44 | orge | why /16? |
| 00:40.58 | petemc | !cidr |
| 00:40.58 | dpkg | cidr is probably Classless Inter-Domain Routing, see RFC1517/1518/1519/1520. |
| 00:41.02 | asg | orge: because your netmask is x.x.255.255 |
| 00:41.10 | orge | i see |
| 00:41.16 | asg | and also bloody tasty |
| 00:41.17 | orge | where can i find info about that? |
| 00:41.25 | asg | orge: man nmap ; google CIDR |
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| 00:41.44 | petemc | cider rots your insides |
| 00:41.52 | asg | petemc: only if you drink too much |
| 00:42.02 | petemc | true |
| 00:42.13 | petemc | lots of people do.. |
| 00:43.49 | petemc | im the clichéd irishman drinking guinness |
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| 00:44.42 | asg | petemc: I do when I can; most of the time, I like a lot of lager |
| 00:45.10 | petemc | i would drink stella at a push |
| 00:45.14 | petemc | wife-beatder |
| 00:45.15 | asg | not bad |
| 00:45.22 | asg | petemc: wife is in .mx at a spa |
| 00:45.34 | petemc | well for some |
| 00:45.43 | petemc | no holidays for asg? |
| 00:45.53 | petemc | or is being away from the wife a holiday? ;) |
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| 00:46.45 | jetscreamer | what is holiday |
| 00:46.53 | asg | petemc: no holidays for me sadly. |
| 00:46.53 | Ronin | jetscreamer: when wife is out of town |
| 00:46.58 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 00:47.03 | jetscreamer | never heard of that |
| 00:47.11 | jetscreamer | she makes me go with her |
| 00:48.04 | Ronin | jetscreamer: mine too but with her grandfather living here they go off as i have to work so i get a "working" vacation every once in a while |
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| 01:12.35 | b^2 | my mouse isn't showing up in X. I have /dev/input/mice as the mouse device in my xorg.conf file. when i cat /dev/input/mice and move my mouse around i get junk to the screen so it is working. I don't see any errors in my /var/log/Xorg.log.0. any ideas? |
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| 01:16.11 | infernix | hm. one of my boxes has 0.00 load, yet a steady 20% CPU time used by System. |
| 01:16.21 | infernix | what could that be? |
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| 01:16.32 | petemc | top doesnt say? |
| 01:16.35 | infernix | nope |
| 01:16.50 | infernix | thats the weird thing |
| 01:17.12 | infernix | heh. this has been the case for at least the past year |
| 01:17.27 | infernix | i never noticed it until now |
| 01:17.48 | cafuego | infernix: disks moving data? |
| 01:18.12 | infernix | 3ware HW raid |
| 01:18.19 | b^2 | infernix, interrupts maybe? |
| 01:18.20 | infernix | 3dm3 reports OK |
| 01:18.22 | cafuego | real hw or not? |
| 01:18.38 | infernix | yea real HW |
| 01:18.58 | cafuego | check /proc/interrupts |
| 01:19.12 | infernix | in 119 days, timer interrupts is at 1033853200, LOC at 1033848144 and the rest isnt even half of that |
| 01:19.33 | infernix | hmm, ide1 is unusually high though. thats odd |
| 01:19.45 | infernix | cdrom drive is attached |
| 01:20.07 | infernix | this isnt making any sense:) |
| 01:20.08 | cafuego | the timer also has 30% more then my box, with a 160 day uptime. |
| 01:20.16 | b^2 | so any ideas about my mouse problem? |
| 01:20.41 | b^2 | random speculation is fine <G> |
| 01:21.16 | infernix | if hacked, any hidden processes should show up as user CPU % and not system, right? |
| 01:21.30 | infernix | i doubt it's that though |
| 01:21.39 | cafuego | unless it's a rootkit kernel mod |
| 01:21.41 | b^2 | depends on the rootkit |
| 01:22.03 | infernix | eww |
| 01:22.03 | cafuego | speaking of network interrupts, there's a new bsod :-) |
| 01:22.05 | infernix | hrm. it is 2.4.26. |
| 01:23.59 | infernix | well i think its the ide1 on which the cdrom is attached thats at fault, ide1 has 416563068 interrupts while the HW raid controller only has 84974857, and both the eth0 and 1 combined is still less than ide1 |
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| 01:24.19 | infernix | silly though. nothing in the cdrom drive, never used. |
| 01:24.31 | infernix | guess i'll recompile without ide |
| 01:25.31 | stoned | burritos kick ass |
| 01:25.35 | stoned | god bless mexico |
| 01:26.01 | thingfish | having italian tonight, myself. |
| 01:26.09 | stoned | nice |
| 01:26.24 | stoned | thing man I can't wait for this piss test to be over and done with |
| 01:26.31 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:26.32 | stoned | I am dying to smoke man, jeez |
| 01:26.37 | b^2 | my mouse isn't showing up in X. I have /dev/input/mice as the mouse device in my xorg.conf file. when i cat /dev/input/mice and move my mouse around i get junk to the screen so it is working. I don't see any errors in my /var/log/Xorg.log.0. any ideas? |
| 01:26.46 | petemc | im smoking stuff that isnt dry |
| 01:27.01 | stoned | its all pete's fault that I can' tsmoke |
| 01:27.03 | stoned | all of it, his fault |
| 01:27.04 | stoned | :D |
| 01:27.06 | thingfish | actually I am really enjoying my straight time at work, nice to get the cobwebs cleared out for once. |
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| 01:27.12 | petemc | :) |
| 01:27.20 | stoned | thingfish, yeah actually I'm enjoying that too |
| 01:27.34 | stoned | clear head man, I can actually remember now where I put my car keys |
| 01:27.38 | thingfish | stoned: and, I like beer, so... ;) |
| 01:27.39 | stoned | its nice to be able to remember shit |
| 01:27.45 | thingfish | heh yes |
| 01:28.13 | stoned | im drunk off some cheap vodka right now |
| 01:28.32 | thingfish | hey I've been there pal |
| 01:28.36 | stoned | came downstairs to have a snack, hungry as balls. Fine ass chics upstairs at my boy's apt., we're drinking and having a good time |
| 01:28.46 | thingfish | oh nice, a party |
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| 01:28.50 | stoned | man, it sucks, all them fine chics got boyfriends |
| 01:28.51 | stoned | :( |
| 01:28.56 | thingfish | oh well of course |
| 01:29.32 | victo1 | hey, someone answer that dude question |
| 01:29.38 | victo1 | about that fucking mouse :D |
| 01:29.45 | stoned | what mouse? |
| 01:29.47 | infernix | what mouse |
| 01:29.55 | stoned | oh |
| 01:30.00 | stoned | modprobe mousedeb |
| 01:30.02 | stoned | modprobe mousedev* |
| 01:30.02 | victo1 | the guy said the mouse isnt working |
| 01:30.11 | stoned | sudo modprobe mousedev or whatever |
| 01:30.19 | infernix | im scrolling, i dont see it. too stoned |
| 01:30.21 | stoned | should fix it, if not check lsmod |grep mouse |
| 01:30.29 | stoned | hmm |
| 01:30.42 | stoned | dunno, too drunk to help! |
| 01:30.46 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:31.05 | infernix | put your xorg pointer config in a pastebin |
| 01:31.18 | thingfish | what kind of mouse is it? |
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| 01:31.30 | infernix | its working, he's catting /dev/input/mice and gets data |
| 01:31.32 | b^2 | usb |
| 01:31.46 | infernix | probably a config thing |
| 01:31.48 | infernix | !paste |
| 01:31.48 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 01:31.49 | b^2 | did the modprobe and restated X |
| 01:32.03 | b^2 | still no |
| 01:32.05 | stoned | i think the factoid needs fixing |
| 01:32.11 | stoned | its channels.debian.net/paste |
| 01:32.28 | victo1 | i think he must plug in the mouse |
| 01:32.30 | stoned | or I guess you could just click the link "paste" |
| 01:32.32 | stoned | doh |
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| 01:33.17 | infernix | d^2: put the pointer config (or entire xorg.conf) in a pastebin. what type of mouse (exactly)? |
| 01:33.45 | stoned | dpkg forget paste |
| 01:33.45 | dpkg | stoned: i forgot paste |
| 01:33.49 | b^2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste2/3142 |
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| 01:34.02 | stoned | dpkg paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 01:34.02 | dpkg | is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 01:34.10 | stoned | !paste |
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| 01:34.22 | stoned | wtf did I just do |
| 01:34.23 | stoned | ! |
| 01:34.28 | stoned | im drunk I better leave |
| 01:34.59 | dvs | dpkg paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 01:34.59 | dpkg | is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 01:35.00 | infernix | b^2: change ExplorerPS/2 to ImPS/2 |
| 01:35.02 | infernix | restart X |
| 01:35.30 | stoned | fuck it, looks good tom e |
| 01:35.31 | dvs | dpkg paste is <reply> Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 01:35.32 | dpkg | is <reply> Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 01:35.33 | liable | dpkg: no, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 01:35.33 | dpkg | okay, liable |
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| 01:35.43 | stoned | goddamn bloots |
| 01:35.46 | stoned | I hate em |
| 01:35.47 | dvs | liable: Thanks |
| 01:35.51 | stoned | liable, thank you ' |
| 01:35.57 | stoned | without the apostrophe |
| 01:36.00 | stoned | of course |
| 01:36.03 | b^2 | infernix, still no |
| 01:36.03 | liable | heh |
| 01:36.09 | b^2 | infernix, tried that before |
| 01:36.10 | infernix | b^2: which mouse |
| 01:36.17 | infernix | brand+typ |
| 01:36.17 | infernix | e |
| 01:36.35 | b^2 | infernix, a microsoft usb optical scroll mouse |
| 01:37.05 | b^2 | infernix, a logitech optical scroll mouse also doesn't work |
| 01:37.50 | infernix | b^2: try and add: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
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| 01:38.05 | stoned | infernix, that only controls the mousewheel |
| 01:38.16 | infernix | stoned: i know. |
| 01:38.16 | stoned | useless to him if he can't _see_ his pointer |
| 01:39.10 | fasta | Does module assistant also work for installing the nvsound driver? |
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| 01:39.34 | stoned | it is a module assistant, it assists with modules |
| 01:39.38 | b^2 | at one point in the past i had a problem on a different box i had a problem with a hardware pointer line i think it was, could that do something? |
| 01:39.40 | stoned | so yes |
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| 01:39.54 | stoned | read the man/info pages |
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| 01:40.26 | stoned | oxycontin, percocets, benzo diazapine's are cool |
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| 01:40.49 | infernix | b^2: try protocol auto |
| 01:40.50 | stoned | oh wait, those are opioids |
| 01:41.08 | b^2 | infernix, where is that option? |
| 01:41.12 | stoned | autops2 or imps2 |
| 01:41.16 | stoned | !drxx |
| 01:41.16 | dpkg | hmm... drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 01:41.35 | liable | b^2: starnge if you can cat it.. do you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse ?? |
| 01:41.40 | infernix | Option "Protocol" "auto" |
| 01:41.46 | stoned | im gonna go now, bye |
| 01:42.13 | liable | isnt imps2 for serial mice? |
| 01:42.18 | b^2 | i have xserver-xorg-input-mouse |
| 01:42.30 | dvs | liable: IntelliMouse |
| 01:42.42 | liable | oh |
| 01:42.57 | Piet | <Piet> the kernel bug works fine on a couple systems i have reports on |
| 01:42.57 | Piet | <Piet> a patch which works around it was already published by linus |
| 01:42.57 | Piet | <Piet> another workaround which doesn't require patching the kernel is to remount /proc without execution bit and set it in fstab appropriately |
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| 01:43.34 | liable | Piet: the best way is to upgrade your kernel.. |
| 01:43.51 | Piet | liable: obviously |
| 01:44.21 | b^2 | infernix, auto doesn't fix it |
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| 01:44.50 | Piet | liable: pity is, there is no update |
| 01:45.05 | infernix | b^2: out of options here |
| 01:45.20 | b^2 | infernix, thanks, i ran through most this stuff once before |
| 01:45.29 | liable | Piet: the sid kernel was upgraded yesterday, you would have to check the etch changelog if you run etch |
| 01:45.33 | b^2 | infernix, i hate configuring x |
| 01:46.03 | Piet | liable: you didn't read all of what i was writing |
| 01:47.10 | Piet | i'm not referring to prctl nor to suid_dumpable |
| 01:47.23 | b^2 | had the system working great on my monitor, plug it into my tv and mess with xorg to get that working and things go to hell. now i got the old config and the mouse is gone |
| 01:47.31 | liable | Piet: your right, i didnt read the link.. goody, a new one.. |
| 01:49.19 | Althaser | how can I create userfile for eggdrop ? please |
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| 01:51.35 | liable | Piet: no clues as to what kernel this goes down to? |
| 01:52.04 | Piet | 2.6.x |
| 01:52.16 | liable | all of 2.6? |
| 01:52.17 | Piet | where x= * |
| 01:52.20 | Piet | right |
| 01:52.23 | liable | great |
| 01:52.31 | b^2 | that is nasty |
| 01:53.05 | tritro | what is the ip of google please my dnsserver is dead |
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| 01:54.24 | dracflamloc | i try to install grub by doing 'root (hd0,0)' and it says selected disk does not exist |
| 01:54.26 | Piet | tritro: 193.101.111.10 |
| 01:54.29 | b^2 | 72.14.203.99 |
| 01:54.36 | Piet | thats not google but an open dns |
| 01:55.11 | dvs | dracflamloc: what partition do you want root to be? |
| 01:55.18 | tritro | thanks |
| 01:55.25 | dracflamloc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.28 | dracflamloc | hda1 |
| 01:55.41 | dracflamloc | i dont get it |
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| 01:56.20 | dvs | dracflamloc: wouldn't that be (hd0,1)? |
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| 01:56.41 | dracflamloc | i'll try it |
| 01:56.47 | dracflamloc | but it says disk doesnt exist |
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| 01:57.30 | liable | dracflamloc: tried tab completion in grub?? |
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| 01:57.51 | liable | root (<tab> |
| 01:58.16 | dracflamloc | didnt know it had tab completion. will try it in a sec |
| 01:59.35 | dracflamloc | nothing |
| 01:59.42 | dracflamloc | it jsut keeps repeating root ( |
| 01:59.57 | liable | that doesnt sound good.. |
| 02:00.12 | owh | Greetings all. Been banging away trying to get DRI and GLX working on my Thinkpad R52 with Intel 915 graphics on board. I'm stumped. I've tried the thinkwiki stuff, the dri-snapshots, etc. I've managed to move from XFree to Xorg with sarge-backports, so I feel I'm getting closer, but this is getting me down. Any suggestions? |
| 02:00.14 | liable | are you running grub from a rescue disk? whats the whole story? |
| 02:00.22 | dracflamloc | from damn small linux |
| 02:00.35 | dracflamloc | tried rescue mode from ubuntu and it ddint work either |
| 02:01.14 | mtomczak | So this is something I've nevere understood about Debian (more about package management in general): |
| 02:01.24 | liable | dracflamloc: have you tried chrooting into your debian install? |
| 02:02.04 | mtomczak | How can it come to pass that an application---say, gimp--- is at version a in the package list, and a dependency of that package---say, gimp-data---is at version b, b<a? |
| 02:02.37 | dracflamloc | liable, says operation not permitted |
| 02:02.39 | mtomczak | That is to say, the most recent version of the package cannot be installed because one of the dependencies isn't yet up-to-date with the package? |
| 02:02.56 | owh | mtomczak: You're likely not running Debian Stable. |
| 02:02.59 | liable | sometimes dependancies get broken in etch/sid.. that, unfortuantely is a fact in running testing/unstable |
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| 02:03.10 | mtomczak | True, I'm not running stable. |
| 02:03.20 | stew | mtomczak: put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy gimp gimp-data" into a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 02:03.40 | owh | mtomczak: Then the installation package list is in flux, perhaps an apt-get update would help. |
| 02:03.47 | mtomczak | Okay, so there's no assumption that testing/unstable will be installable at any given time? |
| 02:03.53 | liable | dracflamloc: is the debian partition mounted rw, and is /proc mounted? |
| 02:04.16 | owh | mtomczak: Not AFAIK. |
| 02:04.21 | liable | mtomczak: right, some packages may be broken at any point in time |
| 02:04.24 | mtomczak | I mean, non-runnable I can understand; I had just always assumed (not yet having learned how the package management system works on the backend) that there was some atomic process by which it was guaranteed that packages listed were always installable. |
| 02:04.33 | mtomczak | Okay, cool. That makes a lot more sense :) |
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| 02:05.05 | owh | mtomczak: You need to remember that a lot of automagic stuff is going on behind the scenes to make 'testing' |
| 02:05.08 | stew | mtomczak: the goal is the make that true for testing, but it is not always achieved. for unstable this is not true |
| 02:05.11 | crptx | hello |
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| 02:05.31 | liable | heh |
| 02:05.37 | owh | mtomczak: That's why there is Debian Stable :) |
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| 02:05.46 | owh | mtomczak: The rest is just developers futzing :-) |
| 02:05.50 | mtomczak | That makes a lot more sense. Thanks! |
| 02:06.00 | stew | mtomczak: it should be impossible for a package to move to testing if its dependencies have not yet, unless they can be moved there at the same time |
| 02:06.15 | dracflamloc | liable, ok i got the chroot to work, now what |
| 02:06.24 | liable | dracflamloc: try grub again |
| 02:06.27 | mtomczak | I think my problem might be that I bring in both unstable AND testing from most of my package lists. |
| 02:06.37 | owh | stew: The word "should" would best be writting in BOLD. |
| 02:06.47 | owh | s/writting/written/ |
| 02:06.54 | dracflamloc | nothing, tab completion still lists just ( |
| 02:07.00 | stew | owh: its impossible if the dependencies are declared |
| 02:07.16 | owh | stew: Unless there is a bug :) |
| 02:07.38 | liable | dracflamloc: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 02:07.51 | liable | dracflamloc: paste it in #flood |
| 02:08.00 | stew | mtomczak: put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy gimp gimp-data" into a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 02:08.19 | kados | is there a way to track all the packages installed on a deb box and build a package that will install them on another box? |
| 02:08.32 | liable | kados: /msg dpkg selections |
| 02:08.40 | kados | thx |
| 02:08.46 | dracflamloc | cant paste it |
| 02:08.55 | dracflamloc | i'll just summarize the 4 lines |
| 02:09.05 | dracflamloc | major 3, minor 0, hda |
| 02:09.05 | owh | mtomczak: It is possible that you've found a bug, have you looked at the http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gimp.html for example? |
| 02:09.14 | dracflamloc | major 3 minor 1 hda1 |
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| 02:09.24 | mtomczak | Stevie-O: I'll hit that in a second. Right now, I'm upgrading everything that can be upgraded. |
| 02:09.27 | dracflamloc | up till hda3 |
| 02:09.34 | liable | dracflamloc: hrm, ok. |
| 02:09.37 | mtomczak | Oop, Hm. Bitchx expanded that strangely :) |
| 02:10.27 | owh | Anyone got any suggestions for light reading on X on a Thinkpad to make DRI and GLX work? |
| 02:10.32 | dracflamloc | ugh i dont believe this |
| 02:10.49 | liable | owh: have you checked tuxmobil/linux-laptop?? |
| 02:11.03 | owh | liable: Excellent suggestion, one mo... |
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| 02:11.30 | liable | dracflamloc: how did you get into this situation? |
| 02:11.40 | dracflamloc | i installed windows xp |
| 02:11.48 | dracflamloc | it overwrote grub |
| 02:11.53 | benjk | Hi there |
| 02:12.31 | mtomczak | owh: Didn't know that existed. Thanks :) |
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| 02:14.08 | owh | mtomczak: Pleasure -- it's helped me track my favourites for some time now :) |
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| 02:14.48 | benjk | I am looking to ditch Suse as my requirement is mostly a text-mode-only one-trick-pony minimalist server OS and Suse just forces me to keep too much useless stuff around |
| 02:15.04 | benjk | how well would Debian fit this usage pattern? |
| 02:15.21 | benjk | how good are the minimal install options? |
| 02:15.25 | b^2 | owh, what version of a thinkpad? |
| 02:16.39 | lurker99 | benjk: IMHO, it's great. minimal install w/networking and then add just what you need... |
| 02:16.56 | stew | benjk: debian only installs the minimum, i believe the base install now is around 250-300 megs. after the installation is complete you can fetch whatver pacakges you want |
| 02:16.59 | benjk | so no forced-upon-you stuff? |
| 02:17.14 | lurker99 | nop. :-) |
| 02:17.22 | benjk | that sounds very promising |
| 02:17.23 | stew | benjk: no, you install a package, it only installs the absolutely required packages unless you ask for more |
| 02:17.59 | benjk | with Suse I spend an average of 4-5 hours per installation to cut things down and most of the time things break then |
| 02:18.11 | owh | b^2: R52 with Intel 915 |
| 02:18.47 | benjk | How about making CF card bootable installations? anybody done that? |
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| 02:19.05 | lurker99 | with a minimal debian install, you waste all your time >adding< the packages you need. |
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| 02:19.14 | benjk | hehe |
| 02:19.20 | b^2 | owh, sorry don't have one of those |
| 02:19.35 | owh | b^2: That seems to be the story of my life :) |
| 02:20.40 | benjk | so what's the preferable method of installation? is there a single CD withjust the basics or should I do a netinstall? |
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| 02:20.52 | stew | benjk: yes, i have 2 usb keys that boot debian, and another that is a debian installer |
| 02:21.03 | benjk | cool |
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| 02:21.24 | stew | benjk: netinst as long as long as you can get on the network with a default kernel |
| 02:21.49 | benjk | so, if I come here asking for pointers on how to make a bootable CF card install I won't be crucified as a heretic then? |
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| 02:22.10 | SeanTater | is it possible for the bios to be unstable? |
| 02:22.21 | benjk | cause that's what happend to me in #suse |
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| 02:22.48 | SeanTater | I just rebooted and my system hung in loading plug and play drivers, before starting grub |
| 02:22.50 | dondelelcaro | benjk: so long as you're installing debian, no. |
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| 02:23.04 | owh | Hmm, well that didn't work. |
| 02:23.17 | benjk | cool |
| 02:24.43 | liable | owh: is the sarge backports modular now? |
| 02:25.40 | liable | owh: if it is, do you have the neccessary module package installed for the intel card? |
| 02:25.53 | owh | liable: Are you asking me if they moved to v7?, if so, then no, they're at 6.9.0 |
| 02:26.19 | liable | oh, mwilson still lives, and is deriding someone in #bash :) |
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| 02:26.29 | liable | owh: correct |
| 02:26.44 | owh | liable: Yeah, so no modules for the card. |
| 02:27.43 | owh | liable: At the moment I'm running 6.9.0, I have a screen, I'm typing on it here :-), but as soon as I activate DRI and/or GLX, all I get is black. Strangely enough I don't see any errors I can point to in the logs. |
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| 02:27.58 | owh | liable: If it wasn't for the black screen, I'd say that it was up and running. |
| 02:27.59 | g333k | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.12 | owh | g333k: You should see that in dmesg. |
| 02:28.30 | adrakoa | whois ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET ?? |
| 02:28.43 | petemc | multicast |
| 02:28.54 | liable | owh: hrm, if thinkwiki cant help. i spose posting to linux-thinkpad might be your best bet, or try ##thinkpad |
| 02:28.57 | g333k | owh, I see: "usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address" 7 |
| 02:28.58 | g333k | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.03 | adrakoa | petemc, why? |
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| 02:29.29 | adrakoa | petemc, missed option of the router ? |
| 02:29.43 | owh | Hmm, I'm the only one there :) |
| 02:29.47 | liable | might be ##ibmthinkpad (cant remeber) |
| 02:29.49 | petemc | adrakoa: it has various uses, some crappy windows adsl drivers seem to pump multicast packets into the network,not sure wh |
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| 02:29.52 | petemc | y |
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| 02:30.08 | owh | liable: I'll have a look see :) |
| 02:30.28 | adrakoa | ok, petemc but how i can catch one? |
| 02:30.34 | liable | owh: check your freenode status page, normally gives you a pointer when you join the wrong thinpad channel :) |
| 02:30.35 | petemc | adrakoa: catch? |
| 02:30.41 | adrakoa | ethereal.. |
| 02:30.56 | adrakoa | snif |
| 02:31.05 | adrakoa | :') |
| 02:31.09 | owh | liable: Aha :-) |
| 02:33.24 | g333k | owh, looking the ouput, can you tell me which sda is the usb key? |
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| 02:33.54 | owh | g333k: It looks to me that you're missing a module if it doesn't tell you. |
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| 02:36.54 | owh | g333k: What does usbview show? |
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| 02:40.57 | adrakoa | petemc, should i answer better? |
| 02:41.26 | petemc | adrakoa: it seemed to me that you answered your own question |
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| 02:42.10 | adrakoa | petemc, but ethereal don't see nothing, Etherape is my tool |
| 02:42.22 | adrakoa | a good tool |
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| 02:47.31 | g333k | owh, excuse me? |
| 02:47.54 | cafuego | do you deserve to be excused? |
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| 02:49.46 | etrask | er... where does SSHD put its logs? |
| 02:50.27 | b^2 | figured out more about my mouse problem |
| 02:50.41 | b^2 | the mouse is ther but the cursor isn't showing up, any ideas? |
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| 02:52.42 | cafuego | etrask: /var/log/syslog |
| 02:53.05 | etrask | ah... thanks |
| 02:56.31 | liable | etrask: also auth.log for logins |
| 02:56.57 | etrask | ah, that's what i was looking for |
| 02:57.04 | etrask | just put my ssh on the internet, want to keep an eye on it |
| 02:57.10 | etrask | thanks cafuego/liable |
| 02:57.29 | b^2 | etrask, you will get 2-3 bruteforces a day |
| 02:57.35 | etrask | probably |
| 02:57.40 | etrask | I have password authentication turned off though |
| 02:57.41 | etrask | need a key |
| 02:57.48 | b^2 | great |
| 02:58.07 | liable | they all but dissapeared for a while, now they are appearing again |
| 02:58.16 | adrakoa | wmtp haves too? |
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| 02:59.46 | b^2 | one of my buddies had a bad password on an account he forgot about and got caught by one |
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| 03:00.05 | b^2 | i told him to disable password logins, but he didn't listen |
| 03:00.09 | b^2 | said it was a pain |
| 03:00.44 | etrask | ouch |
| 03:01.05 | b^2 | yeah |
| 03:01.10 | b^2 | that was a fun day or so |
| 03:01.22 | b^2 | i do security work so was able to trace it down quickly |
| 03:01.33 | etrask | awesome |
| 03:01.39 | b^2 | then me and my coworkes tracked the people who did it down on irc |
| 03:01.59 | etrask | lol |
| 03:02.18 | petemc | most of the ssh brute force stuff is a worm |
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| 03:02.51 | b^2 | the stuff i have seen is scripts that email the person when they are successful, not a true work |
| 03:03.00 | b^2 | and the ugliest coding you have ever seen |
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| 03:03.27 | b^2 | one of the scripts had a file with the numbers 1-254 in it to go through a class b |
| 03:03.39 | b^2 | looks were apparently foreign to that person |
| 03:03.48 | b^2 | loops |
| 03:04.15 | etrask | heh |
| 03:04.18 | xored | iam just trying to instal dtc wiht php5 any mysql5. i checked out the CVS version, builded ad debian package. How to install it now ? |
| 03:04.28 | etrask | reminds me of the DDoS story on www.grc.com |
| 03:04.43 | b^2 | steve is a bit of a nut |
| 03:04.45 | etrask | pretty funny how they tracked this guy running windows bots down, on IRC |
| 03:04.49 | etrask | yeah, he's funny though :P |
| 03:05.14 | b^2 | there is some good stuff on rootkit lists of tracking people down |
| 03:06.21 | b^2 | so my mouse is there but no cursor is showing up, any ideas? |
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| 03:10.10 | xored | guys how to install a debian package *.deb ? |
| 03:10.41 | petemc | dpkg -i |
| 03:10.41 | crogue5 | dpkg -i <package> |
| 03:11.04 | dvs | doh! |
| 03:11.23 | xored | how to just "test it" like |
| 03:11.33 | xored | -f in gentoo |
| 03:11.38 | xored | i mean -p |
| 03:11.43 | b^2 | -s |
| 03:11.47 | xored | thank you |
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| 03:14.39 | xored | oh man, now he failed on dep and has marked tons of packages to install |
| 03:14.52 | xored | but the half of them is unneeded ( php4 / apache ) |
| 03:14.58 | xored | ho to clear that ? |
| 03:15.21 | petemc | i think dpkg knows better than you what is needed |
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| 03:16.19 | xored | petemc: come one, you dont even know what iam installing. I dont even get why he is still trying php4, wheter the dep list seems to work php4 OR php5 etc |
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| 03:16.48 | xored | how to clear that "install" list. every apt-get install opperation fails, cause he wants to install all that packages marked by dtc |
| 03:16.57 | b^2 | so my mouse is there but no cursor is showing up, any ideas? |
| 03:18.32 | xored | b^2 try to disbale hardware_cursur |
| 03:18.35 | xored | under X11 |
| 03:18.40 | b^2 | xored, yes |
| 03:19.05 | b^2 | i tried option "HWCursor" "off" |
| 03:19.19 | b^2 | and on |
| 03:19.26 | b^2 | and same setting with swcursor |
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| 03:20.47 | dvs | stoned: still drunk? |
| 03:20.49 | xored | hmm |
| 03:20.54 | stoned | yup |
| 03:21.07 | stoned | now I gotta wait on some more friends coming over later, I came down for another snack |
| 03:21.08 | stoned | :D |
| 03:21.22 | xored | dtc dependes on PHP5-PEAR and PHP5-CURL, but i cant find both in my package list. How could that be ? |
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| 03:26.22 | hound | Is there a kernel available with the PRCTL Core Dump exploit fixed? |
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| 03:30.22 | simonrvn | xored: um, try no caps ;) |
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| 03:35.59 | SubStack | dpkg moo |
| 03:35.59 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 03:36.08 | liable | hound: aptitude changelog linux-image-foo (the sid 2.6.17 is fixed, dunno about etches kernels) |
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| 03:36.38 | liable | hound: theres a new exploit out anyway :) |
| 03:36.46 | liable | or should that be :( |
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| 03:38.45 | Onmitsu | ah guys i need your help, in the registered area of www.mldesigners.com there's a working gmail exploit, i dont know what to do? should i email gmail with the link and my username and password? or what? is there an email address? ahh, what should i do? |
| 03:39.09 | simonrvn | anything 2.6.17.4 and up, plus some versions of 2.6.16.x but don't quote me on the 2.6.16.x stuff |
| 03:39.49 | simonrvn | ..that are safe... check your debian-devel-announce mail or see http://tinyurl.com/ks7x2 |
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| 03:40.20 | sirius1 | hi... |
| 03:40.43 | sirius1 | does any body knows how to edit a nero ISO file in linux? |
| 03:42.01 | hound | liable, oh excellent |
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| 03:52.42 | adrakoa | sirius1, k3b is a good program, gnomebaker, burn, (mkiso + cdrdao ) |
| 03:53.16 | adrakoa | mkisofs if you don't have the iso |
| 03:53.43 | adrakoa | edit... ahhhh excuse me |
| 03:53.55 | adrakoa | you can mount it.. |
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| 03:55.05 | liable | simonrvn: actually, that exploit i was talking about is different one |
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| 03:56.54 | tipote | Hi all ! Somebody has a problem to compile a c++ file that I have written. He gets errors in Debian g++ 4.0.4 headers (like "new") of the following kind : "../new:1: error: stray '@' in program" |
| 03:57.06 | tipote | and another one : "stl_list.h:571: error: return type 'class std::allocator<gp_command>' is incomplete" |
| 03:57.17 | tipote | do you have an idea where it can come from ? |
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| 03:57.52 | tipote | is there any known problem with g++ in Debian ? I am using stock 4.0.3 on a different distribution without any problem |
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| 04:01.14 | gnuzi | how can i remove the nvidia logo after installing the drivers? |
| 04:01.30 | [TACO] | Why? |
| 04:01.54 | gnuzi | coz i work in dark room...and that logo hurts my eyes... |
| 04:02.24 | Flegm | It only shows up for a few seconds at boot, though... right? |
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| 04:02.36 | gnuzi | also...i think it puts system in wastes 5 seconds... :D |
| 04:02.42 | gnuzi | yeah... |
| 04:02.48 | Flegm | Why do you work in a dark room? that's bad for your eyes anyway. |
| 04:02.52 | [TACO] | what desktop enviroment do you use? |
| 04:02.57 | [TACO] | Flegm: touche |
| 04:03.03 | gnuzi | gdm |
| 04:03.20 | gnuzi | Flegm, its not |
| 04:03.22 | gnuzi | i see in the dark... :D |
| 04:03.26 | Flegm | I use KDE |
| 04:03.34 | gnuzi | I use GDM |
| 04:03.37 | AndyMcGee | gnuzi, Did you download the driver from nvidia? |
| 04:03.42 | gnuzi | yeah |
| 04:03.54 | [TACO] | gnuzi: I see in the dark too, I also eat at McDonalds. Just because I can, doesn't mean I should. |
| 04:04.00 | Flegm | You might be able to change the graphics file, if you can find it. |
| 04:04.06 | gnuzi | ic |
| 04:04.08 | krausen | does apt not automatically update kernels? |
| 04:04.20 | krausen | I noticed it updated the headers, but not the actual kernel |
| 04:04.27 | krausen | apt-get update I mean |
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| 04:04.42 | AndyMcGee | The Logo is done by the driver itself after loading, you havt to ask nvidia to remove it.... i guess they will not be interested in doing that... |
| 04:05.21 | gnuzi | i dont care if they r happy or not... :D |
| 04:05.34 | gnuzi | i will look around for a while... |
| 04:06.00 | AndyMcGee | gnuzi, Good Luck then ;) |
| 04:06.12 | gnuzi | ty.. =) |
| 04:06.16 | liable | krausen: you can install a kernel meta package (ie linux-image-2.6-686) |
| 04:06.17 | Flegm | This may sound like a stupid question, since I'm supposed to use man, but I was too much of a noob to understand the documentation. How do I mount a drive, from the command line, that is read/write from my non-root account? |
| 04:06.56 | adrakoa | Flegm, man fstab |
| 04:07.00 | Flegm | I think apt will update your subversions, like updating from 1.6.2 to 1.6.4. But it does not seem to upgrade major versions automatically. |
| 04:07.19 | krausen | what I've got is that dpkg -l shows: ii kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on AMD K7. |
| 04:07.19 | Flegm | Damn, I'm on my Windows laptop, so I can't try that now. |
| 04:07.20 | krausen | and also |
| 04:07.21 | Flegm | Thanks, though. |
| 04:07.38 | krausen | ii kernel-headers-2.6.8-3 2.6.8-16sarge3 Linux kernel headers 2.6.8 on AMD K7 |
| 04:07.50 | adrakoa | Flegm, learn from windows is dificult |
| 04:08.37 | liable | !info kernel-image-2.6-686 sarge |
| 04:08.43 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-686: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4.), section base, is optional. Version: 101 (sarge), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 04:09.03 | Flegm | I know learning from Windows is difficult, but I'm working on it, and making good progress. I even figured out the command line well enough to install the NVIDIA drivers, which require the x server to not be running. |
| 04:09.24 | Flegm | OK, to you guys, that won't sound impressive. |
| 04:09.39 | adrakoa | Flegm, bitchx is a irc client command line. |
| 04:09.58 | krausen | bitchx is quite mature ;-) |
| 04:10.07 | krausen | hehe, I was in my teens when it was first out |
| 04:10.12 | krausen | <- 31 |
| 04:10.13 | [TACO] | Flegm: try rhapsody too |
| 04:10.15 | Flegm | Is it available for Windoze? |
| 04:10.27 | krausen | I think you could build bitchx under cygwin ok |
| 04:10.27 | Flegm | Rhapsody's a music service. |
| 04:11.15 | Flegm | I had a bad experience with Cygwin back when I was trying to compile CalcRogue... |
| 04:11.18 | krausen | real rhapsody only works with an old version of firefox under linux...they lag royally |
| 04:11.32 | krausen | cygwin lacks a clean way to uninstall |
| 04:11.59 | [TACO] | Rhapsody is also an IRC client built with ncurses |
| 04:12.11 | krausen | oh, cool |
| 04:12.12 | Flegm | I don't know what ncurses means. |
| 04:12.13 | krausen | ;-) |
| 04:12.34 | Flegm | I've seen it used in many things, though, including AVIDA. |
| 04:12.36 | [TACO] | apt-cache search rhapsody |
| 04:12.36 | [TACO] | rhapsody - small and efficient ncurses based IRC client |
| 04:13.12 | krausen | what is sad is I've seen viruses bigger than entire operating systems |
| 04:13.21 | AndyMcGee | Flegm, ncurses is software to help drawing nice User Interfaces in Text Mode (like boxes and such stuff) |
| 04:13.28 | krausen | <- once owned a machine with a 10 meg hdd |
| 04:13.36 | Flegm | oh. |
| 04:13.47 | [TACO] | <--- Once owned a C64 |
| 04:13.56 | krausen | hey, c64's had badass graphics for their day |
| 04:14.00 | Flegm | How come every time a message starts with my name, it shows up in the server tab? |
| 04:14.07 | Flegm | Is that so you can get an individual's attention? |
| 04:14.07 | krausen | and animation techniques that looked like "live tv" |
| 04:14.10 | AndyMcGee | <-- still owns a C64 ;) |
| 04:14.13 | krausen | awesome |
| 04:14.45 | liable | summer olympics was cool on c64 :) |
| 04:14.51 | krausen | what is even more amusing is what AMD and Intel are doing adding x86 hardware virtualization support. talk about old school come full circle! |
| 04:15.18 | krausen | I had an apple //c. Didn't have that crisp "live tv" looking graphics. |
| 04:15.19 | Flegm | I don't know what that means. |
| 04:15.25 | [TACO] | so was Ghost Busters |
| 04:15.28 | [TACO] | and Wizard |
| 04:16.07 | Coweater | is there a fix for audio sometimes being fuzzed, i've had it happen with amarok and rhythmbox. if i restart the song or change songs it works but otherwise will last the duration of a song |
| 04:16.25 | adrakoa | Coweater, use xmms |
| 04:16.30 | Coweater | no |
| 04:16.32 | adrakoa | haha |
| 04:17.12 | Flegm | Why aren't we talking about Debian anymore? |
| 04:17.42 | Coweater | why are you talking about us not talking about debian anymore? |
| 04:18.09 | AndyMcGee | Why are we talking anyway ;) |
| 04:18.21 | Flegm | Uhh... because I like talking about Debian? I don't have a very good answer to that. |
| 04:18.44 | AndyMcGee | There is no good answer I guess... |
| 04:18.49 | Coweater | i'm thinking it's an alsa problem, possibly 2.6 kernel specific, i've tried using other codecs with amarok and it didn't help |
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| 04:19.20 | Flegm | Have you tried VLC? |
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| 04:19.31 | Coweater | there isn't a vlc package in testing |
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| 04:19.52 | Flegm | It would be nice if VLC could be installed as the audio/video engine for other media managers. |
| 04:20.00 | Flegm | testing? |
| 04:20.11 | Xgates | I used the miniumal iso and installed Debian as a net install |
| 04:20.14 | Coweater | not that this is testing specific, or even debian, it used to happen in slackware as well |
| 04:20.48 | Flegm | I did a Debian netinstall, and I was able to install VLC from Synaptic. |
| 04:21.04 | Flegm | Or maybe I used the source package and alien. It was so long ago. |
| 04:21.09 | Xgates | but when it came to section to pick the install I picked 'Desktop' thinking it was then going to give me a choice to choose, which desktop or WM, but all it did was just install Gnome and Kde |
| 04:21.19 | Xgates | How can I get it to just install only Gnome? |
| 04:21.43 | Flegm | Just go uninstall KDE. |
| 04:21.44 | adrakoa | Xgates, after instalation, apt-get install gnome |
| 04:22.05 | adrakoa | Xgates, base-system only |
| 04:22.15 | gnuzi | i just needed to add this to XF86Config in device section... Option "nologo" "1" |
| 04:22.16 | gnuzi | :D |
| 04:22.18 | gnuzi | testing |
| 04:22.28 | Flegm | I have a question about Gnome and KDE. |
| 04:22.49 | Xgates | adrakoa: ok, I just didn't know what I meant was IF really the 'Desktop' it would give you any choices but I guess not, I found that odd that it installs but Gnome and kde |
| 04:22.52 | Xgates | hmm ok thanks |
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| 04:23.20 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, is there a website or something that explains the process that involves packages moving from Unstable, to testing and then to testing? |
| 04:23.22 | gnuzi | works.. |
| 04:23.30 | Maquiavelo | err to stable |
| 04:23.33 | Flegm | I like the KDE interface and options much better than Gnome, which seems kind of limiting (especially the lack of an address bar in the filebrowser), but I like how Gnome automatically mounts my USB things and puts them on the desktop. Is there a way to have that functionality in KDE? |
| 04:23.55 | adrakoa | Flegm, so you use windows |
| 04:23.58 | Flegm | When I used Ubuntu, there was a program I found to make mounting simple, but I can't find one for Debian. |
| 04:24.11 | Flegm | Well, I'm used to windows. |
| 04:24.17 | Xgates | one last thing, when I opened synaptic to look for the Nvidia driver, I didn't see anything and I believe after I installed Debian I ran apt-get to install it, but couldn't get it |
| 04:24.18 | Flegm | But I'm trying to reform, I swear! |
| 04:24.38 | adrakoa | gnome-volume-manager Flegm |
| 04:24.41 | Xgates | what do you have to do to get the nvidia driver? |
| 04:24.53 | gnuzi | goto their www site |
| 04:24.55 | gnuzi | dl from there |
| 04:24.58 | simonrvn | !tell Xgates about non-free |
| 04:25.11 | gnuzi | or add apt-get sources and dl |
| 04:25.11 | Flegm | And can I use gnome-volume-manager under KDE? |
| 04:25.16 | simonrvn | yes |
| 04:25.30 | simonrvn | why couldn't you? |
| 04:25.31 | Xgates | ok so just add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line? |
| 04:25.34 | gnuzi | xgates...i just installed for my laptop...gf 6400 go |
| 04:25.36 | simonrvn | yes |
| 04:25.45 | gnuzi | yeah |
| 04:26.27 | Xgates | thanks, I knew it needed something like that, just wasn't sure which, been a LONG time since I ran debian ;p |
| 04:26.35 | gnuzi | yw.. :D |
| 04:26.41 | gnuzi | i cant view my shared files on another computer...it have windows xp on it... |
| 04:26.50 | gnuzi | need to get my backup files... |
| 04:27.04 | gnuzi | i installed samba and samba-client...everything with name samba... |
| 04:27.15 | gnuzi | but i still cant view the shared files... |
| 04:27.18 | gnuzi | "( |
| 04:27.24 | Flegm | I've had that problem too. |
| 04:27.33 | simonrvn | !swat\ |
| 04:27.35 | simonrvn | !swat |
| 04:27.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 04:27.36 | gnuzi | it was working 2 months ago... |
| 04:27.50 | Flegm | I hosted a Samba share on Debian, and my Windows box kept requesting authentication, and not connecting with any logins. |
| 04:28.02 | adrakoa | smbtree |
| 04:28.18 | simonrvn | try using it with an ldap backend ;) |
| 04:28.18 | gnuzi | that problem happened to me too... |
| 04:28.44 | gnuzi | wtf...i typed smbtree now it asks for pwd...what should i enter?? |
| 04:28.52 | gnuzi | root pwd? |
| 04:29.03 | gnu|noob | ? |
| 04:29.03 | simonrvn | your user's? |
| 04:29.06 | gnu|noob | ok |
| 04:29.27 | Flegm | It always specificly states whether it needs the root password. |
| 04:29.27 | gnu|noob | wow...i see the shared folder... |
| 04:29.31 | simonrvn | just a wild guess.. or you could read man smbtree or its --help ;) |
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| 04:30.02 | gnu|noob | i am new to linux...i will remember to always rtfm first... :D |
| 04:30.14 | adrakoa | nbtscan is good tool too |
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| 04:30.48 | Flegm | because the fm will never make fun of us, no matter how much of noobs we are. |
| 04:31.10 | IEIE | Is the "purified water" in 3% hydrogen peroxide available from the drugstore, is it distilled water? |
| 04:31.20 | IEIE | What purification method is used? |
| 04:31.24 | orge | any know anything about Linux on XBOX ? |
| 04:31.35 | gnuzi | no |
| 04:31.49 | IEIE | I was frankly told that FREENODE has the highest IQ of all the major IRC networks. |
| 04:32.01 | gnuzi | thats true |
| 04:32.07 | gnuzi | =) |
| 04:32.26 | IEIE | Is there where a modern day lady goes to pick up a hubby? |
| 04:32.31 | simonrvn | orge: they have a chan i think. see /msg chanserv list *xbox* |
| 04:32.38 | simonrvn | IEIE: not here |
| 04:32.55 | simonrvn | IEIE: that's because all the geeks hang around here |
| 04:33.00 | simonrvn | ...and oftc |
| 04:33.22 | Flegm | I have an ISO image for some distribution of Linux for xbox sitting around somewhere, on a computer I'm not on right now. |
| 04:33.31 | simonrvn | probably just distilled... and what's your debian-related question, IEIE? |
| 04:33.47 | Flegm | I'd telnet there and get it, but the external hard drive is off, too |
| 04:33.56 | liable | hes doing it in multiple channels.. |
| 04:34.14 | Flegm | http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 04:34.19 | Flegm | Google is your friend |
| 04:34.24 | IEIE | simcop2387, Then why would it not say DISTILLED WATER. |
| 04:34.32 | IEIE | It says PURIFIED WATER. |
| 04:34.48 | IEIE | Would regular ozonized bottled water react with the peroxide? |
| 04:35.01 | Flegm | Wow, that site says the xBox has 64 megs of ram. That's ridiculous. |
| 04:35.18 | Flegm | Is there a #chemistry? |
| 04:35.19 | IEIE | I am making peroxide solution by the barrel. |
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| 04:35.30 | IEIE | In my basement. |
| 04:35.38 | simonrvn | *yawn* |
| 04:35.40 | IEIE | It is cooking up now. |
| 04:35.41 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 04:35.53 | simonrvn | i suggest *plonk* |
| 04:36.01 | Flegm | Wow, there is. |
| 04:36.03 | SerajewelKS | when did i join #methlab |
| 04:36.07 | IEIE | I got some peroxide on my fingers and now they are white and numb. |
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| 04:36.18 | IEIE | Is this normal? |
| 04:36.26 | simonrvn | when #matlab closed :P |
| 04:37.16 | IEIE | To all channels: Can peroxide can give you radiation poisoning from the free radicals? |
| 04:37.34 | adrakoa | all, sun too |
| 04:37.38 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, anyone has by chance a link or a diagram of the distribution of, Debian versions? as in, what's the % of people who use Sarge, or testing ot unstable? |
| 04:37.41 | adrakoa | isn't it? |
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| 04:37.54 | simonrvn | !popcon |
| 04:37.54 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 04:38.04 | Maquiavelo | Thanks |
| 04:38.18 | Flegm | Anything can give you radiation poisoning if you irradiate it first. |
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| 04:39.33 | IEIE | What is better for cleaning electronics. PEROXIDE SOLUTION OR RUBBING ALCOHOL? |
| 04:40.11 | adrakoa | ieie is better the silence |
| 04:40.27 | IEIE | I luberally wipe down my cell phone with peroxide solution to kill the germs? |
| 04:40.35 | IEIE | Liberally. |
| 04:40.47 | IEIE | But Bucky. |
| 04:40.55 | IEIE | What about all the peroxide solution I am cooking up? |
| 04:41.18 | adrakoa | ignore solution |
| 04:41.19 | adrakoa | ? |
| 04:41.51 | Flegm | I recommend nitroclycerine for all your electronics cleaning needs. |
| 04:41.57 | Flegm | Make sure you wear gloves,. |
| 04:42.25 | IEIE | PEROXIDE NOT GOOD FOR ELECTRONICS? |
| 04:42.35 | IEIE | I am hearing from raster that it is an evil corrisive. |
| 04:42.43 | IEIE | Comments? |
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| 04:43.05 | IEIE | What do the gentlemen here clean their cell phones with? |
| 04:44.01 | Flegm | Speaking of evil corrosives, use Coke for all your car battery rust removing needs! |
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| 04:46.19 | IEIE | What is superior. Rubbing alcohol or vodka? |
| 04:46.28 | IEIE | For cleaning. |
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| 04:46.48 | lsmith | hello |
| 04:46.59 | Flegm | I'd rather drink Vodka. |
| 04:47.15 | adrakoa | whisky!!!!!!!! |
| 04:47.15 | Flegm | Oh, for cleaning? rubbing alcohol. |
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| 04:47.26 | Flegm | It's whiskey. |
| 04:47.41 | IEIE | Why is rubbing alcohol superior? |
| 04:47.45 | IEIE | Vodka has more alcohol. |
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| 04:48.03 | Flegm | So, while we're talking about everything except Debian, can somebody tell me how to register an account on Freenode? |
| 04:48.31 | IEIE | What is the purest drink you can buy? The finest alcohol with the least additives. |
| 04:48.37 | Flegm | Because in Rubbing alcohol, the other ingredient is water, which also evaporates. In Vodka, the other ingredients are various flavors and probably sugar. |
| 04:48.39 | IEIE | What is it? |
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| 04:48.54 | Flegm | The purest drink you can buy is bottled water. But, tap water works fine for me. |
| 04:49.09 | IEIE | The gentlemen in #networking are telling me MOONSHINE. |
| 04:49.32 | Flegm | You probably want moonshine. I don't think you can buy it legally, but just go find some hicks. |
| 04:49.57 | Flegm | Why do some channels have two #s? |
| 04:49.58 | IEIE | This MOONSHINE is a gorgeous drink, HUH? |
| 04:50.12 | IEIE | One of my wealthy girlfriends has a swimming pool that uses CHAMPAGNE instead of water. |
| 04:50.21 | IEIE | Anyone here ever been swimming in such a pool? |
| 04:50.22 | Flegm | Yum. |
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| 04:50.30 | Flegm | That sounds bad for your skin. |
| 04:50.31 | IEIE | BOY is it ever luxurious. |
| 04:50.33 | sysrpl | hello |
| 04:50.46 | sysrpl | how can i add a trash bin icon to my gnome desktop? |
| 04:50.57 | Flegm | Is there a freenode administrator around here? |
| 04:51.01 | Gnea | IEIE: hey, got any on-topic questions? |
| 04:51.10 | IEIE | Is CHAMPAGNE the best swimming solution? |
| 04:51.18 | Gnea | !googleit |
| 04:51.18 | dpkg | hmm... googleit is #debian is not your search engine. |
| 04:51.24 | IEIE | It sure feels great on the skin and genitals. |
| 04:51.33 | Flegm | Yeah, before we accidentally answer sysrpl and start talking about Debian again... |
| 04:51.44 | Gnea | IEIE: man, you are a stupid piece of shit |
| 04:51.56 | Flegm | I don't use Gnome, sorry. |
| 04:52.02 | Gnea | !troll IEIE |
| 04:52.10 | Flegm | Maybe one of these fine gentlemen talking about champagne and genitals has an answer. |
| 04:52.12 | Gnea | ~troll IEIE |
| 04:52.13 | apt | ACTION hereby declares IEIE a troll |
| 04:52.24 | [TACO] | ~troll IEIE |
| 04:52.25 | apt | ACTION hereby declares IEIE a troll |
| 04:52.54 | Flegm | I thought trolls insult people. Does off-topic discussion count as trolling? |
| 04:53.06 | Gnea | Flegm: if it's constant, yes. |
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| 04:53.12 | Flegm | oh. |
| 04:53.32 | lsmith | would anyone be able to point me in the direction of a development-oriented shell account? |
| 04:53.39 | Flegm | Anybody know how to add a trashcan to the Gnome desktop? |
| 04:54.03 | Gnea | Flegm: pick one up and throw it at the screen? |
| 04:54.05 | Gnea | wait... |
| 04:54.07 | Gnea | :) |
| 04:54.17 | Flegm | I don't think that's the way to go about this. |
| 04:54.25 | Flegm | It would just bounce off. |
| 04:54.32 | lsmith | not necessarily |
| 04:54.33 | Gnea | Flegm: sorry, i don't use gnome, not sure... but right-click might have an option for it |
| 04:54.36 | Flegm | And glue's not a great idea, because then it would be system modal. |
| 04:54.47 | lsmith | quantum physics says that there is a very small chance that it might go into the screen :) |
| 04:55.06 | Flegm | I don't use gnome either. I was echoing sysrpl's question. |
| 04:55.13 | Gnea | ah |
| 04:55.31 | Flegm | Quantum physics also says there is a small chance I will explode right now. |
| 04:55.52 | Flegm | Well, damn. Sys, I guess you should try throwing a trashcan at the screen, then, |
| 04:56.10 | dabreegster | Flegm: The improbability that you exploded in such a manner to make your PC type /me explodes.... It baffles me. |
| 04:56.17 | lsmith | yeah do it for, say 1x10^1000000 years |
| 04:56.40 | lsmith | it will work eventually |
| 04:57.20 | Flegm | I didn't really explode. I actually have been hitting buttons at random the whole time, and getting lucky enough to seem like just a noob (as opposed to a randomness spammer). |
| 04:57.42 | lsmith | i wonder if there is a cygwin channel here |
| 04:57.43 | Flegm | In all likelihood, I should stop being coherent any second now. |
| 04:58.00 | Flegm | But, since everything I type is random, you have no reason to trust it. |
| 04:58.07 | Flegm | Lets try it: #cygwin |
| 04:58.16 | Flegm | Yes there is |
| 04:58.22 | lsmith | yay |
| 04:58.39 | dabreegster | I've got a filename starting with -C, how do I escape it properly so mv doesn't think it's an option? |
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| 04:58.56 | lsmith | "-C" ? |
| 04:58.57 | Gnea | dabreegster: mv -- -C C |
| 04:59.06 | Flegm | The cygwin icon looks funny on my black desktop. |
| 04:59.13 | dabreegster | Gnea: Thank you. |
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| 04:59.58 | Flegm | Why do you have a filename starting with -c? are you a massochist? |
| 05:00.22 | dabreegster | Flegm: It's not mine, it's a recording of somebody's tty session whilst playing crawl |
| 05:00.34 | Flegm | oh. |
| 05:01.28 | AndyMcGee | Great, how do i delete a file named "-*"? |
| 05:01.58 | Gnea | AndyMcGee: same way: rm -- -\* |
| 05:02.13 | Gnea | just escape the asterisk |
| 05:02.40 | AndyMcGee | ;) |
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| 05:03.52 | Flegm | How do you delete a file named "*"? |
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| 05:04.27 | samael | hello |
| 05:05.28 | Flegm | Welcome to Debian. May I take your order? |
| 05:07.55 | samael | uh, cool.. |
| 05:08.16 | SerajewelKS | haha |
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| 05:09.37 | Flegm | Damn, Firefox crashed and Session Manager can't restore IRC tabs. |
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| 05:12.53 | hound | can someone explain to me what a 21-in-1 reader does? It only has 4 slots, and at most takes 7 types of cards. 21-in-1, I think not |
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| 05:17.29 | Flegm | True, it reads seven types of cards. But it also ties your shoes, drives you to work, makes you breakfast, eats your breakfast, puts your pants on, does your homework, plays music, makes love to your wife, chats with you when you think you're on a public forum, brushes your teeth, tucks you in, sneaks out at night and kills people, flushes the toilet for you, and hides the porn when your... |
| 05:17.30 | Flegm | ...relatives come over. |
| 05:17.37 | Flegm | I think that makes 21. |
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| 05:19.54 | hound | :-) |
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| 05:20.11 | Coweater | multiple designations for the same cards plus some cards have actually different versions like compact flash has type 1 and 2 |
| 05:20.54 | Flegm | But really, it's just a product of them lyin' marketing types. 21-in-1 probably means "reads 7 types of cards in 3 formats, and 7x3=21". |
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| 05:21.29 | Flegm | FAT, FAT32, and NTFS. |
| 05:21.42 | Flegm | Incidentally, that would also be wrong, because the OS handles the filesystems. |
| 05:22.03 | Flegm | But marketing types don't know that. They don't get out of their test tubes much anyway. |
| 05:22.19 | hound | even if all 7 had an extra type, it only makes 14! |
| 05:22.28 | rockstar_ | k3b is complaining about a buffer underrun. It says "Please choose a lower burning speed," even when I choose 1x. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 05:22.52 | Coweater | hound: read first paragraph http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/21_in_1_usb_2_0_card_reader |
| 05:22.57 | Flegm | Are you doing other things while you burn your disks? |
| 05:23.22 | Si_tech | I am getting this message when trying to burn a cd with K3B "/usr/bin/cdrecord:Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd vio ioctl" |
| 05:23.35 | hound | Coweater, wow. I saw a 22 version advertised. I wonder which type is missing. |
| 05:23.53 | rockstar_ | Flegm, uh, just xchat. This is a fairly new system, 20x CD DVD+-RW burner |
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| 05:24.42 | Flegm | So basically, most of those are really the same type of card but formatted differently. It's like calling a CD drive 3-in-one because it reads CD-ROM, CD-R, and CD-RW. |
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| 05:25.10 | rockstar_ | Yea, I know. Just saying, it's less than a year old. |
| 05:25.15 | Flegm | Or calling a floppy drive 2-in-1 because it supports floppies and "high-density floppies" |
| 05:25.27 | Flegm | I put "high density floppies" in quotes for a good reason. |
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| 05:26.18 | seb- | how config file(s) must modify to switch between gnome, kde and windowmaker? |
| 05:26.48 | Flegm | Well, buffer underrun should not be a problem. |
| 05:26.56 | Flegm | Is the burner internal? |
| 05:27.02 | rockstar_ | Can I use cdrecord to burn an iso? I think if I could just use a CLI and then I'll know whether it's a driver thing or a k3b thi9ng. |
| 05:27.13 | rockstar_ | Yea, internal burner, IDE |
| 05:27.40 | Flegm | Have you checked your system resources? You might have a background process. Try denicing k3b as much as possible. |
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| 05:28.39 | Flegm | You can try the CLI, but I don't know how. |
| 05:28.49 | Flegm | man cdrecord should tell you all you need to know, though. |
| 05:29.30 | Flegm | OK, I should be getting to sleep about two hours ago. |
| 05:29.32 | Flegm | Bye. |
| 05:29.38 | rockstar_ | Like nice -n -19? |
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| 05:30.40 | Flegm | Well, I use ksysguard. As far as I know, that should work. |
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| 05:34.01 | grendal_prime | jesus...frenx is killing me here |
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| 05:40.04 | streuner | azeem: Are you awake? |
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| 05:44.48 | colera | for a channel with over 400 people there doesn't seem to be a whole lot going on |
| 05:44.49 | colera | : ) |
| 05:45.09 | [TACO] | welll |
| 05:45.27 | streuner | its up to you ;-) |
| 05:45.36 | [TACO] | streuner? |
| 05:46.02 | streuner | use a whole sentence, my crystal-thingie is in low state |
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| 05:49.37 | [TACO] | what? |
| 05:49.59 | Presently42 | Definitly not a debian question, but I don't know whom to ask. How can I call a telephone from my computer? |
| 05:50.22 | [TACO] | Presently42: one answer, Skype |
| 05:50.50 | [TACO] | Presently42: currently til the end of the year USA + CA calls are free, outside there its not. And Next year its not |
| 05:50.53 | Presently42 | Is it in the debian repository? |
| 05:50.57 | [TACO] | possibly |
| 05:51.04 | [TACO] | what branch or source do you use? |
| 05:51.13 | Presently42 | Sid. |
| 05:51.26 | Presently42 | What I want is for my computer to act just like a telephone. |
| 05:51.41 | Presently42 | Well, that aspect of my computer. |
| 05:51.41 | Flegm | Use a modem. |
| 05:51.56 | Presently42 | I have one. What do I do with it. This is my question, really. |
| 05:52.13 | [TACO] | Presently42: let me try to find an answer, I use sid sources as well |
| 05:52.19 | Flegm | There's probably some software somewhere. |
| 05:52.24 | Presently42 | Taco: Thanks much. |
| 05:52.35 | Presently42 | And thanks much Flegm. |
| 05:52.49 | Flegm | I'm looking. Sit tight. |
| 05:52.50 | IEIE | Why are the minerals deposited from water so harmful to electronics? If I wet the plug of a device like the two-pronged plug of a lamp and then I let |
| 05:52.55 | [TACO] | read up on dtmfdial |
| 05:53.08 | IEIE | then I let it dry completely, I am sure there will be no problems with the lamp when it is plugged into the socket |
| 05:53.19 | IEIE | Even though minerals from the water will be deposited on the plug. |
| 05:53.34 | Flegm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem#Voice_Modem |
| 05:53.51 | Flegm | This might mean that not any modem will do, I'm not really sure. |
| 05:54.40 | [TACO] | yeah, needs to be a voice modem |
| 05:54.41 | Presently42 | Flegm: I'm pretty sure I've got one. It came with the Laptop I'm using. |
| 05:54.45 | Presently42 | Let me make sure. |
| 05:55.04 | [TACO] | Presently42.... |
| 05:55.16 | Presently42 | Taco: Yes? |
| 05:55.17 | [TACO] | if your modem is built in, it may not |
| 05:55.29 | [TACO] | if its a PCMCIA card, it may not either |
| 05:55.57 | Flegm | You can tell this article is dated by the first sentence: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/modem.htm |
| 05:56.12 | Flegm | It's not helpful, though. |
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| 05:57.25 | Presently42 | From what I read, it is a telephony-capable modem. I'm going to install that programme you suggested, Taco. If it works, great. If not, I'll purge it. |
| 05:57.41 | Coweater | Flegm: not really, they discuss adsl connections as well |
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| 05:58.16 | Flegm | Taco suggested a program? Can I have it too? |
| 05:59.03 | Presently42 | Flegm: Message from [TACO] at 01:53:58 "read up on dtmfdial" |
| 06:00.11 | Flegm | thanks. |
| 06:00.49 | IEIE | What are the ingredients in anti-reflective lens cleaner? |
| 06:00.51 | IEIE | I can't find the list. |
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| 06:01.25 | littleball | how to add CRC-CCITT as kernel module? |
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| 06:02.29 | Presently42 | Er, I just tried this dtmfdial. It dials, alright... but nothing else..... |
| 06:03.24 | Flegm | Anti-reflective lens cleaner is made by combining gasoline and styrofoam, igniting it in an enclosed area, consuming the resulting goo, and urinating onto the lens. |
| 06:03.41 | Flegm | I get to give false answers to off-topic questions, right? |
| 06:03.53 | Presently42 | Flegm: Haha! |
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| 06:04.37 | Flegm | Well, after it dials, you can carry out a phone conversation by picking up the phone and talking. |
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| 06:05.08 | Flegm | But I have those high-tech phones with the dial buttons, so I don't even need the program. |
| 06:05.47 | Presently42 | ... I'm not sure if that's meant to be a joke or not.... Any way, the point of this exercise is to use my computer as the phone. |
| 06:06.07 | Presently42 | I too have a phone with which I can dial. I want to use my computer, though. |
| 06:06.07 | Flegm | What I would like is a program that would let me stream from VLC to the phone line. |
| 06:06.10 | Flegm | That would be cool. |
| 06:06.36 | IEIE | Eh. what are the ingredients for standard anti-reflective lens cleaner? |
| 06:06.45 | IEIE | I wonder. |
| 06:06.55 | IEIE | Is it some kind of magic? |
| 06:07.05 | IEIE | The ingredients are not listed anywhere. |
| 06:07.13 | Presently42 | I wonder if you know this is a computer-related IRC channel: Perhaps you stumbled upon us by accident? |
| 06:07.15 | IEIE | $10 PayPal to the first bro who comes back with an ingredients list. |
| 06:07.24 | [TACO] | Presently42: did you read the man pages? |
| 06:07.32 | Presently42 | Taco: I did indeed. |
| 06:07.35 | Flegm | Well, all you have to do is case mod the phone reciever into a headset, write "MODEM" on the box thing, and wire it through your computer case, making sure not to run the cables through any fans or electronic components. |
| 06:08.18 | Presently42 | I could.... This is true. But, rather out of the way, yes? |
| 06:08.19 | Flegm | If the mixer would recognize the phone line as an audio device, it would be really easy. |
| 06:08.34 | [TACO] | Presently42: did you pickup a phone on the line to see if the device is dialing to it? |
| 06:08.54 | Presently42 | Taco: No. I dialed my cell phone which did not ring. |
| 06:09.16 | Flegm | You could always download the source for the dialer, find where it makes the actual audio output to the modem, and then alter the source code so that it routes data from the microphone. |
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| 06:09.54 | Flegm | My system would make the cell phone ring. And I could talk to it, too. |
| 06:09.55 | [TACO] | Presently42: I suggest you get a phone by you thats on the same phone line |
| 06:10.05 | Presently42 | Taco: I have it. |
| 06:10.11 | [TACO] | you said you didn't |
| 06:10.21 | Presently42 | I did? I appologise. |
| 06:10.22 | eps | how do I add rar support to the gnome file unzipper? |
| 06:10.25 | [TACO] | its ok |
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| 06:10.30 | Flegm | Now insert it into the coffee cup drive on your computer. |
| 06:10.37 | [TACO] | I'm not here to call your mistakes, trust me, I have made my own |
| 06:11.04 | Flegm | Wow, I get retarded when I chat while asleep. I'm going to have to leave now. |
| 06:11.08 | Presently42 | What I did was put a splliter on to the jack, plug the phone in to one and the computer in to the other. I'm using aDSL wifi, so the modem is not connected to the internet. |
| 06:11.12 | stoned | I am not well.. im semi drunk |
| 06:11.30 | Flegm | Hey, it just occured to me, there's a good chance the modem has audio jacks. |
| 06:11.30 | IEIE | $30 PayPal to the first bro who comes back with an ingredients list for standard AR lens cleaning fluid. |
| 06:11.35 | stoned | eps, add non-free and contrib to your sources.list, update && apt-get install zip unzip rar unrar arj |
| 06:11.37 | Presently42 | Indeed, taco: Haven't we all made mistates. |
| 06:11.39 | IEIE | Hurry up. |
| 06:11.56 | Flegm | And if it doesn't, you could always cut a slit in the phone cable and rewire it to some. |
| 06:12.19 | Flegm | Hey cleaning fluid guy, just use spit. |
| 06:12.21 | Presently42 | Flegm: Are you feeling alright? Your idears are, shall we say, a little quirky.... |
| 06:12.36 | eps | thanks stoned |
| 06:12.36 | IEIE | Most of you don't even make $30 an hour. |
| 06:12.37 | stoned | eps, that will give your "file-roller" support for zip unzip rar and unrar plus arj |
| 06:12.40 | stoned | sure mate |
| 06:12.45 | IEIE | This is ridiculous. |
| 06:12.51 | [TACO] | Presently42: after his beloved fluffy got ran over.... he has never been the same since... |
| 06:12.56 | Tallu | IEIE: we dont? who are you to say that? :) |
| 06:12.56 | stoned | IEIE, stop being a bastard |
| 06:13.06 | stoned | and kindly, go fuck yoruself |
| 06:13.12 | stoned | you're trolling and its not a good thing |
| 06:13.15 | [TACO] | thats not even possible |
| 06:13.17 | Presently42 | IEIE: You think this is ridiculous: So do we. |
| 06:13.18 | Tallu | trolling wont get you anywhere |
| 06:13.34 | Flegm | Well, if alright you mean acting like I've had about three beers even though I'm sober, then yes. |
| 06:13.37 | eps | stoned :) |
| 06:13.43 | eps | anyway,l back to lannage for me |
| 06:13.46 | stoned | eps, did it work |
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| 06:13.48 | eps | gogo linux for gaming |
| 06:13.48 | stoned | hopefully so |
| 06:14.01 | stoned | I am a kde user myself |
| 06:14.04 | eps | stoned yeah thanks, and was 4meg smaller than compiling myself (at a lan with 30 people on 56k :P) |
| 06:14.05 | stoned | I swear by it |
| 06:14.11 | stoned | damn |
| 06:14.15 | stoned | internet cafe? |
| 06:14.22 | Flegm | Here's the ingredients list. 1: alcohol. |
| 06:14.26 | eps | naa local lan group |
| 06:14.28 | Flegm | Alcohol cleans everything. |
| 06:14.29 | stoned | ahh |
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| 06:14.39 | pabligeno | hola |
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| 06:14.40 | pabligeno | como estab? |
| 06:14.42 | Flegm | Go try it. If the lens breaks, it was Taco's idea. |
| 06:14.43 | stoned | !es |
| 06:14.43 | [TACO] | Flegm: even bad memories sometimes |
| 06:14.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:15.05 | *** part/#debian pabligeno (n=pabligen@168-30-112.adsl.terra.cl) |
| 06:15.06 | stoned | pabligeno, #debian-es |
| 06:15.24 | Flegm | What about bad memories? |
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| 06:15.40 | joeyjones | hey all |
| 06:15.51 | joeyjones | i need a way to recover my root password |
| 06:15.56 | Flegm | I'm certain that "como estab" is not spanish. |
| 06:16.00 | Presently42 | If the dtmfdialer is supposed to dail my phone, maybe my modem isn't set up right? |
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| 06:16.13 | Flegm | Maybe he needs #debian-spang |
| 06:16.15 | Presently42 | Portugese, maybe? |
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| 06:16.27 | Presently42 | Potruguese, rather. |
| 06:16.38 | Flegm | (spanglish) |
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| 06:16.46 | Presently42 | Actually, that doesn't look right either.... |
| 06:16.50 | Flegm | Is there a portugese channel? |
| 06:16.53 | joeyjones | ok |
| 06:16.59 | streuner | dpkg, i forgot root's password |
| 06:16.59 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 06:17.03 | Flegm | And if so, what are the chances that it has people? |
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| 06:17.18 | joeyjones | i sjut foudn this in my auth.loh... any idea what this means>? |
| 06:17.44 | Flegm | If that doesn't work, there are numerous bootable tools to do it for you. |
| 06:17.45 | joeyjones | "Jun 21 00:02:00 jshinser sshd[13237]: Illegal user login from 221.2.150.190" |
| 06:18.02 | joeyjones | Jun 30 01:29:18 jshinser sshd[27013]: Illegal user login from 62.161.107.236 |
| 06:18.02 | joeyjones | Jun 30 12:51:47 jshinser sshd[5384]: Illegal user nologin from 64.202.98.57 |
| 06:18.03 | Flegm | It means you got h4x0r3d. |
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| 06:18.12 | Flegm | Three times. |
| 06:18.20 | joeyjones | Jun 27 00:44:07 jshinser sshd[29537]: Illegal user nologin from 60.248.198.130 |
| 06:18.20 | joeyjones | Jun 29 05:50:22 jshinser sshd[2791]: Illegal user login from 202.164.172.221 |
| 06:18.36 | Flegm | Make that five. WHat's a "nologin"? |
| 06:18.37 | joeyjones | Jun 26 18:28:20 jshinser sshd[9439]: Illegal user login from 213.63.185.35 |
| 06:18.41 | joeyjones | iunno |
| 06:18.50 | joeyjones | i need to know what an ilegal login is... |
| 06:18.50 | stoned | man I tell ya. thsee microwaveable burritos are THE SHIT! |
| 06:18.52 | Flegm | Maybe you got haxored 4 times and antihaxored 2 times. |
| 06:18.53 | stoned | damn |
| 06:18.54 | Flegm | That makes a total of 2. |
| 06:19.02 | Flegm | YOu know what else is the shit? |
| 06:19.04 | Flegm | shit. |
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| 06:19.18 | hatezilla | can someone hit me off with an updated source list? |
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| 06:19.28 | stoned | !mirrors |
| 06:19.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 06:19.32 | Flegm | I should be really asleep right now. |
| 06:19.33 | IEIE | Ladies, we have a gnetleman in #Linpeople. |
| 06:19.40 | stoned | hatezilla, or use apt-spy |
| 06:19.53 | Flegm | what's a gnetleman? |
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| 06:20.00 | Flegm | It sounds like some race in a bad fantasy game. |
| 06:20.03 | IEIE | Who has been sniffing eyeglass cleaner for a cool five buckaroos. |
| 06:20.12 | IEIE | Any others? |
| 06:20.14 | stoned | picking on poeple's typos online is even more fucked up than making typos |
| 06:20.20 | stoned | dont' be useless, pleae |
| 06:20.25 | Flegm | sorry |
| 06:20.59 | Flegm | But he's really annoying, and he deserved it. He's been trolling for the last few hours about anti-reflective mirror cleaners. |
| 06:21.03 | andrew_sf | greetings, i am having a problem connecting to a local tftpd server. ive poured over a ton of mailing lists but i havent been able to find a solution to the problem, anyone have experience with this that could help, i'm at my wits end? :) |
| 06:21.09 | Flegm | Wait, anti-reflective mirror makes no sense. |
| 06:21.13 | Flegm | But it was something like that. |
| 06:21.21 | stoned | Flegm, there is still no reason for _you_ to let go of decency |
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| 06:21.36 | Flegm | OK. |
| 06:21.46 | tc | hi, http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1414/screenshot3lp4.png , after the last apt-get upgrade, my gnome and somesoft ware get display problem, can not see complete text, somebody knows why?please |
| 06:21.51 | Flegm | Well, there is. I'm tired. But it's not a good excuse. |
| 06:21.53 | stoned | Flegm, ever heard the expression, "kill them with kindness" |
| 06:21.55 | stoned | :) |
| 06:22.19 | Flegm | No, I haven't. What's it mean? |
| 06:22.30 | stoned | see, thats a smartmouth |
| 06:22.36 | stoned | again, not a good idea |
| 06:22.41 | Flegm | what? |
| 06:22.52 | Flegm | I really haven't heard that expression. |
| 06:23.24 | [TACO] | I have |
| 06:23.32 | [TACO] | customer service use it all the time |
| 06:23.49 | liable | this is irc, it was made to be smartass and pick on peoples spelling :P |
| 06:23.55 | stoned | andrew_sf, what exactly is the problem mate |
| 06:24.12 | Flegm | I don't work in customer service, though. In fact, I don't have a job. |
| 06:24.21 | [TACO] | I did, I no longer do |
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| 06:24.40 | Flegm | Anyway, what's the expression mean? |
| 06:24.53 | stoned | andrew_sf, if you netcat/telnet to the tftp server, what errors, if any, do you get? Do you have a firewall, or are you connecting to localhost? is the service even running? |
| 06:25.07 | [TACO] | being kind to people if they are upset, can sometimes provoke them to the point where they give up |
| 06:25.19 | Flegm | Oh. |
| 06:25.20 | andrew_sf | when i do a get for the file it returns an error code file not found |
| 06:25.25 | [TACO] | most angry people dislike it when their efforts get little or no effect on the person they are speaking with |
| 06:25.37 | stoned | andrew_sf, then the file must not exist |
| 06:25.37 | andrew_sf | nfs is setup on the directory, this is for a ltsp install |
| 06:25.38 | [TACO] | they want to provoke a response |
| 06:25.46 | andrew_sf | well, it does :) |
| 06:25.50 | Flegm | I have noticed that when my mom is angry, and I remain composed, she flips out and throws knives. |
| 06:25.51 | stoned | strange |
| 06:25.55 | andrew_sf | and permissions are 777 |
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| 06:26.04 | [TACO] | Flegm: thats illegal |
| 06:26.05 | Flegm | And by "throws knives", I mean locks the room with the computers. |
| 06:26.21 | Presently42 | Taco: I figured out why dtmfdialer doesn't call: It just emits the noises which can be picked up by a telephone which then calls. |
| 06:26.23 | Flegm | But that's just as bad. |
| 06:26.24 | andrew_sf | i dont have any firewall rules to be blocking the request |
| 06:26.33 | Flegm | Throwing knives is not illegal! |
| 06:26.46 | Flegm | Just throwing knives at people is. |
| 06:26.49 | [TACO] | Presently42: yeah, that sucks |
| 06:27.04 | rockstar_ | How can I set the cdrdao to run suid root? |
| 06:27.16 | Presently42 | Taco: It does indeed! Could it be I need some thing like gnome-meeting or asterisk? |
| 06:27.17 | stoned | andrew_sf, I can't really think of anything atm |
| 06:27.21 | andrew_sf | running nmap shows that 69/udp is filtered, which im not sure what to do with |
| 06:27.35 | [TACO] | Presently42: I am trying to find more info |
| 06:27.40 | Presently42 | Frankly, why is this so hard? I would think it would be easy. |
| 06:27.41 | Flegm | Just run it from the command line, after typing "su". |
| 06:27.48 | andrew_sf | well i appreciate the effort, i usually think better after i light up anyway |
| 06:27.48 | Presently42 | Taco: Again, thanks much. |
| 06:28.02 | stoned | set the suid bit on the executable |
| 06:28.12 | rockstar_ | stoned, How? |
| 06:28.39 | andrew_sf | Hmmm, good idea |
| 06:28.43 | stoned | umm.. man chmod |
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| 06:28.47 | andrew_sf | chmod +x |
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| 06:29.08 | stoned | I don't find it a good idea to spoonfeed people |
| 06:29.09 | [TACO] | I wonder if KPPP... |
| 06:29.10 | stoned | :) |
| 06:29.26 | stoned | people remember/learn better when they have to do some work themselves |
| 06:29.30 | liable | rockstar_: dpkg-reconfigure cdrdoa? |
| 06:29.31 | streuner | yes, specially not with permission issues... |
| 06:29.33 | Presently42 | Taco: Doesn't KPPP only provide internet access? |
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| 06:29.39 | stoned | streuner, indeed |
| 06:29.46 | X600 | stoned: Or they just get pissed off. |
| 06:29.54 | [TACO] | Presently42: the description says `modem dialer and ppp frontend for kde' |
| 06:29.58 | andrew_sf | agreed stoner |
| 06:29.58 | rockstar_ | stoned, chmod doesn't tell me anything. |
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| 06:30.02 | stoned | get pissed off all you want, I'm not gonna do your fucking work for you |
| 06:30.06 | [TACO] | the word AND makes it a little ambiguous |
| 06:30.20 | X600 | Well, they usually get pissed off, and figure it out for themselves. |
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| 06:30.30 | joeyjones | so in which log could i see a password change? |
| 06:30.42 | Presently42 | Taco: It does. But, I would think it means it dials the ISP number and gets the ppp connexion. |
| 06:30.51 | streuner | /var/log/auth.log? |
| 06:31.15 | [TACO] | I have it installed, let me check |
| 06:31.19 | rockstar_ | stoned, was that directed at me? |
| 06:31.21 | [TACO] | my modem is not connected so :P |
| 06:31.30 | stoned | rockstar_, no, in general |
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| 06:31.31 | [TACO] | I won't get some surprise |
| 06:31.34 | andrew_sf | well, chmod +x didnt help |
| 06:31.36 | stoned | the 'general you" |
| 06:32.00 | andrew_sf | lol, stoned _must_ be from the outback |
| 06:32.03 | rockstar_ | stoned, I'm familiar with chmod, but I've only HEARD about the suid root bit set, didn't know how to set it. |
| 06:32.26 | andrew_sf | rockstar, google is far more knowledgable than all of us combined |
| 06:32.56 | [TACO] | Presently42: it seems it is only a PPP dialer |
| 06:33.02 | Presently42 | Taco: I too have it. I've looked; Definitely only PPP. |
| 06:33.12 | Presently42 | O. Well, there we have it. |
| 06:33.19 | rockstar_ | andrew_sf, doing that right now |
| 06:33.19 | [TACO] | nah |
| 06:33.24 | stoned | !set suid root |
| 06:33.24 | dpkg | set a program suid root by chown root foo; chmod +s foo |
| 06:33.40 | rockstar_ | +s is what I wanted to know. |
| 06:33.50 | stoned | rockstar_, /msg dpkg dpkgbot |
| 06:33.58 | stoned | rockstar_, also, try google.com |
| 06:34.02 | [TACO] | Presently42: read up on `mgetty' |
| 06:34.05 | stoned | or mayb some manpage reading |
| 06:34.18 | stoned | its IN the fucking manpage |
| 06:34.23 | stoned | if you read, you'll find it |
| 06:34.23 | Presently42 | Taco: I've heard of this: I'll look it up. |
| 06:34.24 | stoned | :) |
| 06:34.40 | [TACO] | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/getty-mgetty.html |
| 06:34.47 | rockstar_ | Goodness, I don't think I've ever seen hostility in #debian before... |
| 06:34.52 | liable | hah, from the same person that kills with kindness.. |
| 06:34.56 | liable | :P |
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| 06:35.24 | [TACO] | Presently42: apparently it supports dialing out... |
| 06:35.24 | rockstar_ | liable, are you saying that towards me? |
| 06:35.30 | stoned | liable, hey, don't do what I do, do what I say |
| 06:35.31 | stoned | :) |
| 06:36.04 | stoned | rockstar_, not hostility, annoyance by the ignorance of people, and the desire of people to stay ignorant |
| 06:36.12 | stoned | I told you 5 minutes ago to read the chmod manpage |
| 06:36.17 | liable | rockstar_: no. and you havent seen nothing if you think thats hostile for #debian :P |
| 06:36.18 | stoned | had you read it, you would've found your answer |
| 06:36.23 | Presently42 | Taco: Heyhey. This could be it. I'll install and see what happens. |
| 06:37.40 | [TACO] | Presently42: hopefully it works, I gotta hit the sac |
| 06:37.58 | Presently42 | Taco: Alas. Thanks for your help. |
| 06:38.05 | Presently42 | Sleep well and wake. |
| 06:38.13 | rockstar_ | stoned, the cdrdao problem is one of about 15 that I'm trying to solve right now. I don't even think that's really the problem. |
| 06:38.45 | stoned | rockstar_, you asked a question, I answered. If you don't like my answer, seek help from elsewhere |
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| 06:39.45 | stoned | rest assured, I am NOT trying to be a dick to anyone |
| 06:39.46 | rockstar_ | stoned, I loved your answer, just didn't like getting jumped on. I'm googling, I'm doing all sorts of stuff. I figured someone could regurgitate a command that I couldn't figure out really quick. dpkg did it, thanks. |
| 06:39.59 | stoned | rockstar_, its all good man, lets chill |
| 06:39.59 | IEIE | Why on Earth would generic lens cleaner sold by every optometrist in the nation |
| 06:40.00 | stoned | :) |
| 06:40.12 | IEIE | be some kind of magical secret with an ingredients list NOWHERE to be found on the whole bloody INTERNET? |
| 06:40.45 | andrew_sf | holy shit i got it to work |
| 06:40.51 | rockstar_ | stoned, Yea, I'm chill. I always like it when you're in the channel. Someone else to shoot the breeze with. |
| 06:41.02 | stoned | yup |
| 06:41.09 | stoned | if you want offtopic shit, I'm the man |
| 06:41.11 | stoned | :D |
| 06:41.17 | IEIE | FIND ME AN INGREDIENTS LIST. |
| 06:41.18 | rockstar_ | stoned, You got it. |
| 06:41.26 | IEIE | NOW. |
| 06:42.15 | Presently42 | IEIE: In the words of the Aussies, sod off, mate. Really, why are you asking on a Debian Linux Computer channel? |
| 06:42.16 | rockstar_ | IEIE, it's classified information. |
| 06:42.39 | rockstar_ | Presently42, he's in #e as well... |
| 06:42.43 | rockstar_ | Same crap. |
| 06:43.11 | stoned | Derevko, if that is an irssi+screen+away script, please turn it off |
| 06:43.28 | stoned | etc... |
| 06:43.46 | Presently42 | rockstar_at: What in the world is a #e? I've never heard of such a Thing: You've peaked my Curiosity. |
| 06:44.44 | stoned | you mean, piqued |
| 06:44.49 | stoned | ;) |
| 06:45.05 | etrask | You and your proper English have no place in this here intarweb! |
| 06:45.14 | Presently42 | I do, you picker on those who mis-spell, you. |
| 06:45.18 | rockstar_ | Presently42, #e is an IRC channel here on Freenode, for the enlightenment guys. I like to sit in there too. I find all sorts of e17 tweak tips... |
| 06:45.28 | Derevko | stoned: "that" what? |
| 06:45.37 | stoned | im just joshin ya man |
| 06:45.47 | stoned | im half drunk right now |
| 06:45.55 | Presently42 | And I meant that in jest. |
| 06:45.59 | stoned | word |
| 06:46.06 | Presently42 | Cheese. |
| 06:46.11 | stoned | good word |
| 06:46.16 | Presently42 | Fluctuate. |
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| 06:46.36 | stoned | flatulate |
| 06:46.41 | stoned | pfffftttt |
| 06:46.43 | Presently42 | Defenestrate. |
| 06:46.45 | etrask | I'd prefer cheese. |
| 06:46.46 | etrask | NO! |
| 06:46.50 | Presently42 | Weeeeeeee!!!!! |
| 06:46.51 | etrask | Defenestration is costly |
| 06:47.20 | Presently42 | How about transfenestration? |
| 06:47.50 | rockstar_ | Son of a gun, my k3b won't burn cds because of a permissions problem. Ridiculous! (Of course, I wouldn't be saying that had my system been compromised...) |
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| 06:49.02 | IEIE | Small 1oz spray bottle of lens cleaner that contains no alcohol or other lens drying ingredients. Safe to use on all lenses and coatings. Makes your lenses crystal clear.Works best when used with Micro-Fibre cloth above. |
| 06:49.13 | IEIE | Why would I want no drying ingredients? |
| 06:49.30 | wli | Is something unusual happening on alpha that would cause unresolved symbols? |
| 06:49.43 | Presently42 | So that you can have the fun of doing it yourself, silly. |
| 06:49.59 | insmod | rockstar_: run k3bsetup |
| 06:50.42 | rockstar_ | insmod, Yeah, k3bsetup seems borked in tesitng... |
| 06:50.55 | rockstar_ | s/tesitng/testing |
| 06:51.27 | rockstar_ | I'm not using kde though. |
| 06:51.51 | stoned | rockstar_, consult #kde for k3b problems. |
| 06:51.52 | insmod | <rockstar_> Son of a gun, my k3b won't burn cds because of a permissions problem |
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| 06:52.18 | rockstar_ | stoned, I can figure this out. It works when I run as root, so it's not a huge problem. |
| 06:52.23 | stoned | rockstar_, or #debian-kde if you are on sarge, as #kde frowns on kde lower than 3.5.x |
| 06:52.33 | stoned | rockstar_, ok |
| 06:52.46 | rockstar_ | Thanks though. I think I've got most of it good though |
| 06:52.51 | stoned | word. |
| 06:53.40 | stoned | apt popcon |
| 06:53.42 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:53.58 | IEIE | Apparently the ALCOHOL will RIP THE DELICATE COATING right off the surface of a HIGH QUALITY ANTI REFLECTIVE LENS OR SCREEN. |
| 06:54.08 | wli | omfg |
| 06:54.10 | IEIE | Comments? |
| 06:54.27 | wli | I've been railroaded into ldap dependency by an upgrade. |
| 06:54.34 | Presently42 | IEIE: This is the most implacable statement ever made in the history of Humanity. |
| 06:55.03 | wli | Pardon me whilst I crap my pants, tear my hair out, and scream bloody murder to the high heavens. |
| 06:55.07 | stoned | I use toothpaste to clean lens/cds |
| 06:55.09 | stoned | works great |
| 06:55.17 | stoned | try it sometime |
| 06:55.24 | stoned | colgate plain works best |
| 06:55.25 | Presently42 | That, or part of the Internation Communist Conspiracy to Poison Our Precious Bodily Fluids. Di dyou mention CHLORINE?! |
| 06:55.32 | stoned | but aquafresh will also do the trick |
| 06:55.44 | rockstar_ | IEIE, please acknowledge that you aren't a bot. |
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| 06:56.16 | stoned | scream bloody murder |
| 06:56.18 | stoned | hmm |
| 06:56.21 | stoned | reminda me |
| 06:56.26 | stoned | reminds* |
| 06:56.52 | stoned | NP: Death -|- Scream Bloody Gore -|- " Baptized in Blood " -|- (Death Metal) -|- (rating: 0/0) |
| 06:57.40 | stoned | too bad Chuck died of cancer |
| 06:57.43 | stoned | amazing musician |
| 06:58.08 | stoned | one of the best death metal virtuoso guitarists, the pioneer of the genre |
| 06:58.29 | rockstar_ | Pioneer of death metal huh? |
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| 06:58.32 | stoned | indeed |
| 06:59.40 | stoned | rockstar_, http://www.last.fm/user/Nyle |
| 07:00.20 | simo[X] | listen to Guitar Wolf? |
| 07:00.47 | stoned | never heard of em/him |
| 07:01.09 | simo[X] | Japanese noise punk band |
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| 07:01.21 | simo[X] | and zombie movie stars ;-) |
| 07:02.09 | stoned | I can't stand punk |
| 07:02.15 | X600 | stoned: Control Denied was pretty good, too. |
| 07:02.43 | stoned | I mostly dig extremely Advanced harmonic theory based and highly technical deth metal |
| 07:02.51 | stoned | I can't listen to stuff which is is simple |
| 07:02.55 | X600 | How about Psycroptic? |
| 07:02.58 | stoned | I need very very challenging music to listen to |
| 07:03.02 | stoned | of course man |
| 07:03.05 | X600 | \m/ |
| 07:03.07 | stoned | I worship em |
| 07:03.09 | simo[X] | no Ramones? |
| 07:03.14 | stoned | fuck punk |
| 07:03.17 | stoned | peiod. |
| 07:03.22 | stoned | pretend I can spell |
| 07:03.26 | simo[X] | you're missing out dude |
| 07:03.31 | X600 | I can't stand simplistic brutal death metal. |
| 07:03.38 | stoned | nah, I grew up on it, until I discovered real music |
| 07:03.46 | X600 | Technical death and old school thrash/death is the best as far as that goes. |
| 07:03.46 | stoned | nofx is still to this day one of my all time favotires |
| 07:03.58 | stoned | so is greenday, blackflag, misfits etc. |
| 07:04.08 | stoned | not to mention the sex pistols |
| 07:04.14 | simo[X] | true |
| 07:04.23 | simo[X] | who's that big Finnish band, Nightflight? |
| 07:04.27 | simo[X] | Nightwish |
| 07:04.31 | X600 | Meh. |
| 07:04.34 | stoned | I can't dig lame faggy black metal crap |
| 07:04.38 | etrask | what |
| 07:04.39 | X600 | Overrated x999. |
| 07:04.42 | etrask | did someone say Clash? |
| 07:04.52 | X600 | stoned: Like what? |
| 07:04.56 | stoned | although oldschool black metal IS THE SHIT |
| 07:05.04 | X600 | Raw black metal rules. |
| 07:05.05 | stoned | like Burzum, Bathory, Mayhem, Satyricon |
| 07:05.12 | stoned | X600, indeed |
| 07:05.17 | simo[X] | Seen the documentary Metal: A HeadBanger's Journey? |
| 07:05.30 | stoned | the harmonies in convergent sound, atonal riffing, melody based hamonic movements |
| 07:05.32 | stoned | I love the stuff |
| 07:05.37 | X600 | Abigor might be my favourite currently. |
| 07:05.42 | stoned | abigor is also very good |
| 07:05.52 | stoned | I like the the people who started the genre |
| 07:05.57 | stoned | anything new is way too faggy |
| 07:06.01 | X600 | Heh, Venom? :D |
| 07:06.07 | stoned | blackmetal started as counter culture music, and then sold out on its own |
| 07:06.19 | stoned | now its mainstream bullshit, thanks to cradle of filth faggots |
| 07:06.24 | IEIE | EH. |
| 07:06.30 | X600 | Aye. |
| 07:06.31 | simo[X] | What category do you put Rob Halford in? |
| 07:06.36 | stoned | NP: Necrophagist -|- Epitaph -|- " The Stillborn One " -|- (Death Metal) -|- (rating: 0/0) |
| 07:06.37 | X600 | simo[X]: Heavy metal. |
| 07:06.40 | stoned | this is my current favorite |
| 07:06.45 | stoned | one man project of Muhammad Suicmez |
| 07:06.47 | Presently42 | Alright, chaps, I've done here for now. Cheers. |
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| 07:06.57 | X600 | Hellhammer would probably be a second to Abigor right now. |
| 07:07.03 | stoned | oh man, hellhammer is the shit |
| 07:07.22 | X600 | That's just as far as black metal goes. I mostly listen to doom. |
| 07:07.38 | stoned | I like classical, contemporary but not as much as baroque |
| 07:07.43 | stoned | and technical metal |
| 07:07.53 | stoned | to me those two genres are the epitome of hamronic theory and music |
| 07:08.08 | stoned | dondelelcaro, good question |
| 07:08.09 | X600 | I take it you don't like much doom metal, then? |
| 07:08.48 | stoned | Where death metal broke music into raw rhythm and structure, black metal built upon that foundation in technique by exploring the use of melody as the central principle of songwriting. |
| 07:09.06 | stoned | it is actually quite theory oreinted, if you listen to some of the older black metal |
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| 07:09.45 | stoned | it is infact, the other end of the line. On the one hand you have hamronic theory of classicism, and the other, the extreme of classical oppositoin, chaotic metal, still, basedon classical theory |
| 07:10.26 | X600 | I'm not a musician, so I don't know anything about music theory. |
| 07:10.42 | X600 | If I like it, it's good. |
| 07:10.51 | stoned | that is what it boils down to |
| 07:11.00 | susp3ct | hey guys, what are the main packages that are required to build modules? |
| 07:11.05 | IEIE | FINAL CALL. |
| 07:11.06 | stoned | !b-e |
| 07:11.06 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 07:11.18 | dondelelcaro | you don't need to know much about music theory to appreciate technical music... but it does depend a bit on how many parts you can hold and track in your head as the music is playing |
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| 07:11.43 | IEIE | $200 PAYPAL to the gentleman who answers within 5 minutes: WHAT THE INGREDIENTS LIST IS FOR THE GENERIC ANTI-REFLECTIVE LENS CLEANER SOLD BY MOST EVERY OPTOMETRIST IN THE NATION. |
| 07:11.51 | stoned | IEIE, please sop! |
| 07:11.55 | stoned | for fucks sake, stop it |
| 07:12.01 | sussudio | !fist IEIE |
| 07:12.02 | IEIE | I am sick and tired of you useless nerds. |
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| 07:12.08 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@s142-179-221-174.ab.hsia.telus.net] by dondelelcaro |
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| 07:12.31 | X600 | Thank you. |
| 07:12.32 | drivel | Is there anyone familiar with samba locking? |
| 07:12.43 | stoned | susp3ct, also, module-asisstant prepare builds the depends too |
| 07:13.12 | stoned | susp3ct, or you can also try apt-get build-dep pkgname to satisfy dependcies for *-dev packages to compile that package |
| 07:13.12 | dondelelcaro | and if anyone cares, most lens cleaner is a mixture of water, alchohol (often isopropanol), and a slight bit of soap. |
| 07:13.27 | stoned | dondelelcaro, toothpaste also works :) |
| 07:13.33 | susp3ct | stoned, thanks |
| 07:13.34 | X600 | I use window cleaner. |
| 07:13.38 | stoned | susp3ct, sure mate |
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| 07:13.55 | stoned | susp3ct, /msg dpkg dpkgbot |
| 07:13.57 | X600 | Unless you're talking about contacts. |
| 07:14.30 | stoned | drivel, samba locking? |
| 07:14.47 | stoned | drivel, I don't quite understand, what exactly is your qeustion/problem |
| 07:15.23 | drivel | stoned, the problem is that i have a samba server setup for windows user to access to a samba file share |
| 07:15.42 | stoned | dondelelcaro, remember someone asking about a translation service for the blootbot. I read somewhere, and not quite sure, but doesn't blootbot provide a module for translation from a certain site? |
| 07:16.02 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I think its "translate from (eg. de): blahblah here |
| 07:16.05 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I could be wrong |
| 07:16.16 | drivel | stoned, but when more than 1 user double clicking on an msaccess .mdb database, the icon seemed to be locked up, no matter how they double click the icon, there is no response |
| 07:16.47 | stoned | drivel, what is your security level on the share? user based? or share based? or what? |
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| 07:17.32 | andrew_sf | anyone got a fix for a pxe boot problem, "Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image."? |
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| 07:17.39 | drivel | stoned, i have set global veto oplock files = /*.MDB/ and also global level2 oplock to no, the security is directory 0770 and file 0660 |
| 07:17.50 | stoned | hmm |
| 07:17.58 | stoned | drivel, I can't really think of anything atm |
| 07:18.08 | stoned | drivel, in fact, I'm half drunk |
| 07:18.08 | drivel | stoned, and force user and group to be the owner of the directory |
| 07:18.10 | stoned | haha |
| 07:18.18 | drivel | stoned, oh, haha |
| 07:18.33 | stoned | yeah, got a pretty good buzz |
| 07:19.03 | stoned | drivel, in the meantime, may I suggest support in #samba |
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| 07:19.27 | drivel | stoned, seems that the #samba channel is pretty quiet |
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| 07:19.50 | stoned | drivel, be patient, ask your question and just wait, when/if someone sees it and can help you, they will |
| 07:20.05 | gnuzi | is there something like daemon-tools in debian? |
| 07:20.13 | gnuzi | i need to load a cd image |
| 07:20.13 | stoned | gnuzi, no |
| 07:20.19 | gnuzi | WTF!!!11 |
| 07:20.21 | drivel | stoned, hehe thanks |
| 07:20.22 | gnuzi | y? |
| 07:20.22 | stoned | gnuzi, you can mount iso images with -loop |
| 07:20.30 | gnuzi | only iso? |
| 07:20.33 | stoned | gnuzi, or try cdemu for bin/cue |
| 07:20.40 | gnuzi | ok...ty |
| 07:20.44 | gnuzi | i need cue... |
| 07:20.45 | sng | sussudio: Somebody mentioned bacon? |
| 07:20.47 | stoned | !cdemu |
| 07:20.48 | dpkg | CDemu is a kernel module for Linux. It is designed to simulate a CD drive + CD with just simple cue/bin files. You can use it to watch an SVCD or mount the data track of an bin/cue. You should use mplayer to watch SVCD movies stored as cue/bin file, it also supports it. http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 07:21.15 | stoned | sng, your not asg, but the scary guy right ;) |
| 07:21.32 | stoned | I always confuse you two |
| 07:21.41 | stoned | damn pot! /me shakes a fist |
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| 07:21.58 | sng | stoned: No. I'm no asg. He's much cooler than me. |
| 07:22.02 | stoned | lol |
| 07:22.23 | stoned | sng, is bacon good? I've never had it. Islamic laws ya know |
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| 07:22.38 | sussudio | :-| |
| 07:22.51 | sussudio | at least when something is using 100% cpu now, it's only using 1 of the 2 CPU's. |
| 07:23.18 | susp3ct | stoned, i was only asking before to see if i was missing something. Just for some reason i cant build my modules, or build anything lately :( it is a fresh install so im sure im missing something. I have had debian installed on this before and everything was working fine just now everything seems broken. |
| 07:23.41 | eps | how do I add .mdf and .mds (nero iso's) support under debian sid? do I need to recompile or is there a lovely switch to make it work (or does it work now ...still half way into getting the file :|) |
| 07:23.53 | stoned | hmm |
| 07:23.58 | stoned | I did it sometime ago |
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| 07:24.06 | stoned | eps, there is an mdf/mds to iso converter for linux |
| 07:24.07 | stoned | google it |
| 07:24.14 | stoned | I can't recall the site name |
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| 07:25.13 | stoned | standord, wow |
| 07:25.14 | stoned | nice |
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| 07:29.03 | stoned | susp3ct, in that case try apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare |
| 07:29.16 | stoned | get the kernel headers etc. and build-essential etc and all that jazz |
| 07:29.45 | stoned | susp3ct, what is broken, btw? |
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| 07:30.41 | susp3ct | stoned, i tried installing my madwifi module and stoped building |
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| 07:31.08 | stoned | susp3ct, what was the error |
| 07:31.30 | susp3ct | ok hold on |
| 07:31.32 | stoned | susp3ct, most common error is actually a wrong version of gcc |
| 07:32.23 | susp3ct | stoned, i noticed that kernelpath and kernelconf vars were pointing to /usr/src/linux and thats not where my source is |
| 07:32.57 | susp3ct | ahh k, so try changing the gcc version |
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| 07:34.37 | stoned | well not if your paths are fucked |
| 07:34.58 | stoned | oh stomach ache, I gotta go umm.. drop the kids off at the pool man, I think this vodka kicked my ass |
| 07:35.10 | susp3ct | lol lol thats my saying |
| 07:35.12 | susp3ct | haha nice |
| 07:35.44 | susp3ct | stoned, before you go shoots some rockets, how could i get them pointing in the right direction? |
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| 07:36.31 | yunien | hi, this is annoying, if i press "home" or "end" i just get a ~ in the console... whats wrong? |
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| 07:38.37 | Lateralus | what package contains mkraid? |
| 07:38.51 | streuner | !tell Lateralus about search |
| 07:38.54 | peterS | Lateralus: I think 'raidtools2', but you should use 'mdadm' instead |
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| 07:39.19 | peterS | yunien: the home and end keys actually transmit a sequence of characters (there is no ASCII character for 'beginning of line'). interpreting this sequence to mean beginning of line is the shell's job - some shells do it correctly, some don't |
| 07:39.21 | Lateralus | peterS: I've installed raidtools3 and I'm using mdadm |
| 07:39.42 | peterS | Lateralus: well, mdadm can create raid arrays, you don't need a 'mkraid' tool for that |
| 07:39.43 | azeem | streuner: am now |
| 07:39.58 | streuner | azeem: good morning :-) |
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| 07:40.16 | gnuzi | what cmd is used to emulate iso imags? |
| 07:40.17 | Lateralus | peterS: using /etc/raidtab? |
| 07:40.19 | susp3ct | so how can i fix it, so that when compiling or making modules it points to the right source? |
| 07:40.29 | peterS | Lateralus: mdadm doesn't require a raidtab file |
| 07:40.34 | streuner | azeem: can you explain why you threw things out, please? |
| 07:40.34 | susp3ct | kernel-source* |
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| 07:40.43 | streuner | azeem: (topic) |
| 07:40.44 | Lateralus | looks like I need to read up more on mdadm |
| 07:40.45 | peterS | yunien: it also matters whether the terminal type definition (the 'terminfo' definition, to be exact) matches how the terminal emulator you are using actually works. I think some debian terminal emulators don't get this quite right |
| 07:41.07 | peterS | Lateralus: most of mdadm's functionality you get with just the single program 'mdadm', so it's just one tool to read about (: |
| 07:41.20 | Lateralus | Thanks guys |
| 07:41.45 | DARKGuy | Greetings, anybody around can give me a small tip on dual-boot with a debian-installed GRUB? I need to reinstall windoze, but it's gonna rewrite the boot sector (where GRUB is). How would I go into reinstalling GRUB again, so I can go back to Linux? |
| 07:42.09 | azeem | streuner: gluck is back to normal, there has been a press release |
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| 07:42.46 | streuner | azeem: sure, but people still asking and aren't informed |
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| 07:43.18 | azeem | well, the factoid is still there :) |
| 07:43.49 | azeem | I just thought it wasn't that critical for /topic anymore, as this is only informational at this point |
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| 07:44.24 | syntaxx | DARKGuy, use a livecd |
| 07:44.45 | DARKGuy | syntaxx, I have a Knoppix LiveCD... that works? |
| 07:44.46 | marcels | azeem, do you have a link to that press release? |
| 07:45.35 | syntaxx | DARKGuy, as long as it mounts your debian installation that you can run grub from there |
| 07:45.55 | blondie | http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060713 -- beware poor grammar |
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| 07:46.52 | DARKGuy | syntaxx, alright, that saves me I guess. Remembering a bit of the install process... would I go like, grub install hdb1 or something like that, right? |
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| 07:47.32 | syntaxx | DARKGuy, yeah |
| 07:47.36 | Lateralus | peterS: hmm -- mdadm is extremely easy to use |
| 07:47.47 | DARKGuy | alright syntaxx , thanks a lot :D |
| 07:47.48 | peterS | Lateralus: yes, that's why I suggested that instead of raidtools2 (: |
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| 07:48.23 | peterS | Lateralus: mdadm is also maintained by the same guy (Neil Brown) who maintains the kernel raid stuff. so it's likely to support newer features of the latter |
| 07:48.25 | azeem | dpkg: no gluck compromise is it was discovered that gluck.debian.org which hosts www.debian.org and planet.debian.org was recently compromised through a local kernel exploit (http://lwn.net/Articles/190529/), please refer to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00003.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/07/msg00056.html, or gluck was since reinstalled and services have been restored, refer to http://tinyurl.com/ks7 |
| 07:48.26 | dpkg | okay, azeem |
| 07:49.28 | streuner | marcels: http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ |
| 07:50.00 | streuner | marcels: feel free to subsribe in order to get DWN |
| 07:50.14 | streuner | marcels: or NEWS |
| 07:50.15 | marcels | streuner: yeah, I saw it was also on the debian-security list |
| 07:50.25 | streuner | ah ok |
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| 07:50.59 | perlboy | hi |
| 07:51.02 | Lateralus | peterS: Cool. This is my first RAID, how long should it take to sync 1200 gigs? |
| 07:51.17 | perlboy | anybody known depmod: *** Unresolved symbols |
| 07:51.31 | azeem | perlboy: yes, common error message |
| 07:51.37 | perlboy | this is the message I got while installing alsa-modules-2.4.27-3-686 |
| 07:51.47 | perlboy | I am configuring sound |
| 07:51.54 | azeem | perlboy: unresolve symbols means your module wants to use kernel functions which your kernel does not provide |
| 07:51.59 | peterS | Lateralus: quite a long time. I wish there were a good way to say "consider these two disks to be RAID1 but don't bother syncing them since I don't care about the current data on them". There is a mdadm option that apparently does it but the documentation is unclear about whether it's supposed to work for that case. |
| 07:52.11 | perlboy | so what can I do for that azeem |
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| 07:52.34 | perlboy | I am struggling to configure sound |
| 07:52.38 | perlboy | using IBM box |
| 07:52.40 | azeem | perlboy: I don't know, you need to research which symbols exactly are missing and which part of the kernel provides tem |
| 07:52.44 | blondie | so, does Etch have an apt-gettable kernel that isn't affected but that vuln? |
| 07:52.51 | azeem | perlboy: did you compile your kernel yourself? |
| 07:52.59 | perlboy | nope |
| 07:53.01 | streuner | blondie: read its changelog? |
| 07:53.08 | azeem | blondie: which vuln? |
| 07:53.19 | blondie | the one that affected gluck |
| 07:53.33 | azeem | 2.6.17-3 fixed that one |
| 07:53.41 | azeem | I don't think it migrated to testing already |
| 07:53.44 | blondie | it's not in etch though |
| 07:53.47 | streuner | those in bpo are fixed too |
| 07:53.53 | azeem | yes |
| 07:53.56 | Lateralus | peterS: You would think these tools would provide some sort of UI feedback while it syncs. |
| 07:53.57 | streuner | and those are 2.6.16 |
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| 07:54.11 | peterS | Lateralus: 'cat /proc/mdstat' |
| 07:54.13 | perlboy | azeem can u tell me where to find this problem solution |
| 07:54.21 | azeem | perlboy: I don't know |
| 07:54.27 | peterS | Lateralus: mdadm actually doesn't do any of the work on syncing stuff, it just tells the kernel to do it |
| 07:54.31 | perlboy | k |
| 07:54.32 | cafuego | nobody knows |
| 07:54.42 | cafuego | the trouble i've seen |
| 07:54.45 | Lateralus | peterS: ah |
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| 07:55.05 | azeem | perlboy: the error message you have quoted is totally unspecific in order for anybody to give you better advise |
| 07:55.09 | perlboy | anyone else has found and has solution for this |
| 07:55.19 | xored | if i run phpinfo in th console or through apache2, i got to difrent PHP5 "setups". Apache has the mysql module loaded, consele ( CGI ) doesnt ( but i need tis ). I somehow cant find any module setups in the php.ini, somebody got a clue ? |
| 07:55.30 | perlboy | so what will be more specific info to get help |
| 07:55.49 | cafuego | xored: /etc/php{4,5}/*/php.ini |
| 07:56.01 | cafuego | xored: Note the /*/ |
| 07:56.30 | streuner | blondie: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.15-8/changelog |
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| 07:58.43 | rvalles | damn "kicked due to overflow" |
| 07:58.46 | xored | cafuego: yeah thats clear, i got the there the php ini for apache2 for CGO. normalay thats ok for me, i would be able to configure. But i cant find ANY modules in the php.ini activated. I just copied the apache2/php.inc to the cgi one, but still got no mysql support |
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| 08:09.02 | xored | where are the configurations of dpkg stored ? i tried to setup dtc before but it failed, when i try to install it now, it doesnt aks me the things, just the last things |
| 08:10.28 | dondelelcaro | xored: dpkg-reconfigure dtc; |
| 08:10.46 | peterS | xored: dondelelcaro gave the answer you really need, but the answer to the question you _asked_ is: /var/cache/debconf/ |
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| 08:14.13 | AV1611 | greeting to all! |
| 08:15.01 | AV1611 | did anybody experience something like I do: costant sound troubles. |
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| 08:16.00 | AV1611 | I can fix it with "alsaconf", but I hate to see the sound system crashed every 2-3 days.... |
| 08:16.17 | AV1611 | I can fix it with "alsaconf" (and I do).... |
| 08:16.23 | sussudio | AV1611: you can be more vague if you try |
| 08:16.25 | sussudio | go on. |
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| 08:17.12 | perlboy | hi |
| 08:17.30 | perlboy | does any body knows that realplayer installation package for Debian |
| 08:17.53 | AV1611 | well, did anybody experience something like that? |
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| 08:18.10 | eps | Hey everyone |
| 08:18.33 | eps | I'm sick of hiding. That's it - I'm coming out of the closet. I don't give a fuck if you don't accept me but it's who I am |
| 08:19.09 | sussudio | eps: i think you want #gentoo |
| 08:19.20 | eps | You're all closed-minded fuckheads and I'm sick of being ridiculed for my preferences |
| 08:19.30 | blondie | which closet? |
| 08:19.41 | etrask | eps, are you gay? |
| 08:19.47 | eps | Is that meant to be a gay joke? Just cause I'm gay doesn't mean I'll degrade myself with gentoo |
| 08:19.50 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: eps is the same retard as before, on a different australian isp. |
| 08:20.06 | etrask | We shoud hook up, eps. |
| 08:20.07 | dondelelcaro | eps: uh... you're wildly OT. Please go elsewhere or stay on topic. |
| 08:20.19 | eps | Yes |
| 08:20.19 | eps | So what? |
| 08:20.19 | eps | (at a lan, tossers on my computer) |
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| 08:20.37 | streuner | omg |
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| 08:23.39 | streuner | blondie: there are still 2.6.15, i have no idea when 2.6.16 goes into etch... |
| 08:24.07 | blondie | sips |
| 08:24.15 | streuner | ah, thanks :-) |
| 08:24.32 | blondie | looks like all the etch kernels are affected |
| 08:24.34 | blondie | oh well |
| 08:24.39 | streuner | sure |
| 08:25.09 | streuner | but there is actually a new bugfix out, 2.6.17-5 is out. |
| 08:25.27 | azeem | yeah |
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| 08:25.42 | azeem | plus this time sarge's kernel is affected as well |
| 08:25.51 | streuner | fuck |
| 08:25.51 | dondelelcaro | yerp... loads of fun |
| 08:26.28 | streuner | there is quick hotfix for, no idea if it working for sarge's kernels |
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| 08:26.48 | azeem | mount /proc noexec, nosuid |
| 08:26.53 | streuner | right |
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| 08:27.48 | perlboy | azeem: is there any player available to play real media files on debian |
| 08:27.56 | streuner | are you sure that the right one? azeem |
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| 08:28.21 | darrh00 | I upgrade etch yesterday,and I found the fonts in gtk programs,say in gedit, does not display completely,some words or lines are hidden util I put mouse over the line,it will come back,but If the gtk programs lost focus,the lines will again disappear,many programs include totem,gedit,emacs-snapshot-gtk,gnome-system-monitor have this problem ,I suspect it to be problem with libcairo.Has... |
| 08:28.22 | darrh00 | ...anybody here encounter the same question? |
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| 08:29.08 | darrh00 | ps:the menu of emacs-snapshot-gtk,not the buffer. |
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| 08:30.49 | azeem | streuner: right what? |
| 08:31.06 | streuner | mount -oremount,noexec /proc |
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| 08:31.18 | azeem | I think so, yes |
| 08:31.41 | azeem | I didn't try the exploit myself, though |
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| 08:33.05 | streuner | well, me either... |
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| 08:33.36 | viner | hi alllllllllllll |
| 08:34.17 | viner | ????????? |
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| 08:34.43 | blondie | something wrong there |
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| 08:36.55 | streuner_ | !ep |
| 08:36.55 | dpkg | Please stop using excessive punctuation. One exclamation point, question mark, period, elipse, comma, hyphen or interrobang is more than sufficient. Using excess punctuation means that you're more likely to be ignored by those who actually can help you, as it makes it difficult to see what you're actually asking. Continued use of excessive punctuation may result in a ban. |
| 08:37.48 | TARZEAU | apt popcon |
| 08:37.49 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 08:48.55 | usn | hi there |
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| 09:12.55 | yangzhe | Hello, everyone. I'm using Debian testing. Several days ago I had teTeX-extra and teTeX-base upgraded to version 3.0-19, and then I found that I cannot use oxdvi to view dvi files with CJK fonts produced with omega. Does it a problem of the package teTeX-bin(3.0-17) too old? |
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| 09:15.40 | streuner_ | What does BTS say about, maybe there is a solution? |
| 09:17.53 | jair | hey guys, I have a "sda1" external hard drive already mounted and configured on a live cd I boot to do a copy of some files on the computer to it. but I am using rsync and I continue getting an erro |
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| 09:18.03 | jair | error |
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| 09:18.24 | Liquid-Silence | lo all |
| 09:18.25 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.26 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:18.29 | jair | anyone here, is experience using the external drives and using also rsync :0 |
| 09:18.41 | jair | streuner_: hello how are you? |
| 09:18.45 | Liquid-Silence | is it a bad idea to update sarge to etch? |
| 09:18.54 | streuner_ | yangzhe: just a wild guess, do you have that package installed? |
| 09:19.11 | jair | Liquid-Silence: I did it and I mess all my sarge :( |
| 09:19.13 | robin_sz | jair, that is unlikely to work, you'll need to rsync a real filesystem then to a tar, or incremental tar to the tape |
| 09:19.13 | streuner_ | at this moment just use sarge |
| 09:19.21 | robin_sz | jair, or just use amanda |
| 09:19.29 | streuner_ | jair: hi |
| 09:19.33 | jair | robin_sz: actually this is the case |
| 09:19.41 | Liquid-Silence | hmmmm |
| 09:19.49 | Liquid-Silence | or move to SID? |
| 09:19.51 | robin_sz | jair, what is the case? |
| 09:19.55 | Liquid-Silence | and then upgrade to ETCH? |
| 09:20.00 | jair | robin_sz: I have the windows machine with a .bzip2 file on it I want to copy on the external hard drive. |
| 09:20.13 | streuner_ | if you have to ask, just stay with sarge for while and get some experience |
| 09:20.17 | yangzhe | To streuner: I had tetex-extra installed |
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| 09:20.22 | streuner_ | later use testing or unstable |
| 09:20.31 | streuner_ | yangzhe: hm |
| 09:20.44 | streuner_ | yangzhe: did you look at the BTS? |
| 09:20.45 | jair | robin_sz: I did boot the windows machine with a kanotix CD, it allows mw to start ssh and also mount the NTFS file system so I can access to it and copy stuff from it. |
| 09:20.58 | robin_sz | ok, .... |
| 09:21.02 | robin_sz | and? |
| 09:21.15 | yangzhe | and the oxdvi works well before I upgraded it |
| 09:21.31 | robin_sz | jair, and you want to copy this file to another remote machine? |
| 09:21.35 | streuner_ | so just downgrade the version? |
| 09:21.59 | jair | I can run rsync and all that on the machine running the live cd. The only thing is that the file I am trying to copy from the windows machine (booted with kanotix live cd) is 6.0GB |
| 09:22.14 | yangzhe | maybe it works. |
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| 09:22.36 | jair | robin_sz: nope to the same machine another hard drive the external one which is mouted already here---> /media/sda1 |
| 09:22.58 | robin_sz | so, just copy it with the cp command then |
| 09:23.34 | robin_sz | rsync wont really help you much here |
| 09:24.13 | jair | robin_sz: ok should I try then "cp -a file.bzip2" /media/sda1/ |
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| 09:25.17 | robin_sz | jair, that seems the most sensible ... |
| 09:25.39 | jair | robin_sz: ok let me try to see |
| 09:26.08 | robin_sz | jair, why didn't you just do this from windows, wiondows is crap, but you can copy files from one place to anther |
| 09:27.23 | jair | robin_sz: I really can not the windows machine is almost inoperable |
| 09:27.32 | robin_sz | fair enough |
| 09:27.42 | jair | that is why I booted from the live cd |
| 09:28.40 | joeyjones | crap... |
| 09:28.51 | joeyjones | is there anyway to read the logs as a regular user? |
| 09:29.22 | robin_sz | joeyjones, if you cant, then no. thats the general idea. we call it "security" |
| 09:29.51 | AciD | joeyjones > put your user in the adm group |
| 09:29.59 | joeyjones | adm? |
| 09:30.02 | joeyjones | you mean admin? |
| 09:30.06 | AciD | adm. |
| 09:30.33 | robin_sz | AciD, but if he could do that, hed have root pw, and if he had rootpw, hed be able to read the logs |
| 09:30.56 | blondie | if he doesn't have root access he shouldn't be reading the logs :P |
| 09:31.02 | AciD | indeed |
| 09:31.03 | robin_sz | zackly |
| 09:31.08 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:31.22 | joeyjones | my root account got locked by a break-in |
| 09:31.30 | joeyjones | so ym host is resetting tomorrow |
| 09:31.40 | joeyjones | but i have time now to review logs... |
| 09:31.54 | blondie | you can't read them without root |
| 09:32.06 | blondie | damn those pesky permissions |
| 09:32.23 | noshadow | I'd rather suggest do take it down. if you have physical access take the disk out and read them from a clean system... |
| 09:32.24 | robin_sz | break in? ... coo. obviously not a debian user :) |
| 09:32.27 | joeyjones | and how could it be insecure being able to read a log... |
| 09:32.33 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:32.37 | joeyjones | i am using debian |
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| 09:32.44 | robin_sz | joeyjones, because sometimes sensitive info is in logs |
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| 09:32.58 | eifzon | hello |
| 09:33.10 | robin_sz | like GET requests in apache logs |
| 09:33.12 | eifzon | where can i download debian i386 for DVD-r? |
| 09:33.15 | blondie | also privacy |
| 09:33.20 | robin_sz | zackly |
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| 09:34.06 | robin_sz | joeyjones, you should take the box down NOW if it has been broken into ... especially if you have any 3rd party informaiton on that machine |
| 09:34.19 | noshadow | eifzon: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-dvd/ |
| 09:34.20 | c00lfon | eifzon, visit debian.org and read about this. There is no DVD-ISO images to download. |
| 09:34.20 | streuner_ | eifzon: what kind of i-net connection do you have? |
| 09:34.26 | joeyjones | as far as i know there's no third party info on it |
| 09:34.26 | c00lfon | eifzon, Use jidgo. |
| 09:34.33 | eifzon | noshadow: what one of them? |
| 09:34.46 | streuner_ | eifzon: FAST i-net? |
| 09:34.46 | joeyjones | and the offender already dropped it off the net for a while... |
| 09:34.48 | eifzon | witch one :Pp |
| 09:34.50 | eifzon | streuner_: yes.. |
| 09:34.55 | streuner_ | eifzon: ok |
| 09:34.59 | streuner_ | !d-i eifzon |
| 09:34.59 | dpkg | eifzon, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:35.11 | joeyjones | robin_sz: by the time i noticed my system was crashed |
| 09:35.17 | eifzon | full DVD sets ? |
| 09:35.17 | joeyjones | actually it's my remote server |
| 09:35.19 | eifzon | dpkg: ?? |
| 09:35.22 | w00t- | Uptime: 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours 52 minutes 11 seconds |
| 09:35.24 | streuner_ | no, netinstall |
| 09:35.29 | c00lfon | eifzon, Try net-install. ;) |
| 09:35.32 | streuner_ | eifzon: /msg dpkg netinstall |
| 09:35.36 | robin_sz | joeyjones, well, right now 2 things could be happening ... 1) they are hunting through the files, copying off to a remote ssytem anyting that might be of "value" ... or 2) they are spamming the planet. either way, take it down |
| 09:35.36 | noshadow | eifzon: the .jigdo ones and feed them into jidgo-lite, much faster than downloading an .iso |
| 09:35.42 | eifzon | but i cant burn net-install on DVD-r ..? |
| 09:35.55 | blondie | you can burn CD images to DVD can't you? |
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| 09:36.00 | blondie | (maybe you can't) |
| 09:36.02 | streuner_ | that would wasting a DVD for 100 MB |
| 09:36.07 | blondie | who cares |
| 09:36.12 | c00lfon | eifzon, You must burn mini cd iso image, and boot it. ;) |
| 09:36.17 | joeyjones | robin_sz: actually they crashed it off of the net and made it so a restart had no effect |
| 09:36.19 | streuner_ | sure, but i would prefer CDRW |
| 09:36.21 | eifzon | c00lfon: ok |
| 09:36.32 | c00lfon | eifzon, http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 09:36.34 | c00lfon | eifzon, :) |
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| 09:36.40 | blondie | joeyjones: review your security |
| 09:36.42 | eifzon | c00lfon: sure that works? |
| 09:36.43 | vaka | I get the error "Gdk-CRITICAL **:gdk_window_show: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" when I run my ruby script using the GTK |
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| 09:36.51 | c00lfon | eifzon, Yes ;) |
| 09:36.55 | joeyjones | changed the runlevel and fucked up the network services script and mysql |
| 09:36.58 | robin_sz | joeyjones, it only takes 2 minutes to recover root, but the install is now hosed, you need to burn it and restore from backups |
| 09:37.04 | eifzon | c00lfon: can i burn a CD thing on a DVD+ |
| 09:37.17 | eifzon | burn cd image or burn dvd iso image |
| 09:37.30 | eifzon | iam using DVD-R!!! |
| 09:37.31 | eifzon | not RW |
| 09:37.32 | eifzon | :o |
| 09:37.47 | joeyjones | robin_sz: first i need to figure out what happend... |
| 09:37.54 | noshadow | eifzon: if you want to install with network connection, you need no images, if you want images, use jigdo, everything else is a waste of time |
| 09:38.05 | c00lfon | Hm, I don't known... but burn it however, You only have to boot it. :P |
| 09:38.12 | eifzon | noshadow: how do i use jigdo? ... |
| 09:38.18 | blondie | joeyjones: you need access to the harddisk from another OS |
| 09:38.24 | Gnea | eifzon: you're better off getting some real CDR's |
| 09:38.25 | noshadow | eifzon: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how |
| 09:38.32 | joeyjones | i have user access right now... |
| 09:38.33 | robin_sz | joeyjones, well, just remember, it is probably root-kitted now, logging everything you type |
| 09:38.49 | eifzon | but iam trying to burn it now |
| 09:38.51 | eifzon | to an DVD-R |
| 09:38.55 | eifzon | Iam done now, ill try to boot it |
| 09:38.58 | joeyjones | so i wanna try to check the logs |
| 09:39.00 | eifzon | =) |
| 09:39.00 | vaka | how can I set the screen for GtkWindow? |
| 09:39.01 | c00lfon | noshadow, How to install Debian via netinst witwhout ,,Official netinst images for the "stable" release''? ;) |
| 09:39.04 | Gnea | joeyjones: have you disconnected the system from all network access? |
| 09:39.09 | robin_sz | joeyjones, next, you'll tel me that youwerent in the sudoers list either |
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| 09:39.12 | blondie | Gnea: you're missing something. |
| 09:39.22 | robin_sz | Gnea, nah, he hasn't ... he should |
| 09:39.24 | Gnea | blondie: how's that? |
| 09:39.26 | vaka | how can I set the screen for GtkWindow in a Ruby script? |
| 09:39.29 | blondie | he said it was remote :S |
| 09:39.43 | noshadow | c00lfon: sorry, I do not understand you. |
| 09:39.49 | blondie | joeyjones: does your hosting provider provide a "recovery" boot option? |
| 09:39.53 | Gnea | then he should perform a /etc/init.d/networking stop and go onsite to fix it later. |
| 09:39.58 | joeyjones | nope |
| 09:39.59 | robin_sz | exactly |
| 09:40.06 | blondie | joeyjones: did you check? |
| 09:40.18 | robin_sz | leaving a compromised box onthe net is kinda crazy, |
| 09:40.22 | Gnea | joeyjones: it's a hosting company? you need to talk to their technical support department. |
| 09:40.28 | joeyjones | Gnea: no way to right now |
| 09:40.39 | Gnea | joeyjones: why not? |
| 09:40.52 | c00lfon | noshadow, You wrote ,,if you want to install with network connection, you need no images'', but how about netinst image? ha must burn & boot it. |
| 09:40.53 | blondie | if they dont offer 24x7 support, change hosting provider |
| 09:40.58 | c00lfon | noshadow, sorry for my english. ;) |
| 09:41.01 | joeyjones | the host i go through actually hosts DB servers but hosted my dedicated server for me |
| 09:41.14 | joeyjones | Gnea: root is locked, being unlocked tomorrow |
| 09:41.15 | Gnea | that still doesn't answer 'why' |
| 09:41.38 | Gnea | joeyjones: what does that have to do with picking up the phone and dialing a number? |
| 09:42.29 | joeyjones | i already told him what's happening |
| 09:42.31 | robin_sz | joeyjones, well, do as you will, but really, just changing root is not even 1/10th of the answer. you need to re-install. if you want to do post-event forensics, swap out the discs. either way, the best advice is to drop it off the net, now |
| 09:42.35 | noshadow | c00lfon: I mean you need no full Debian images, even the netinst might be a bit oversized, there are also buisiness-card-images or booting over the net if the computer support it and you have a server for it. |
| 09:42.47 | robin_sz | joeyjones, do you run tripwire? |
| 09:43.17 | Gnea | joeyjones: then take it off the 'net, if it's hijacked then it could be used to wh0re the host provider's bandwidth, which would land you in some hot water |
| 09:43.19 | joeyjones | what no one has seemed to notice is that the eprson that compromised it already finished with it, cleaned logs, and dropped it off of the net |
| 09:43.31 | vaka | how can I set the screen for GtkWindow in a Ruby script that uses GTK? |
| 09:43.34 | blondie | joeyjones: so how are you accessing it? |
| 09:43.37 | joeyjones | robin_sz: never heard of tripwire |
| 09:43.42 | Gnea | lol |
| 09:43.55 | joeyjones | my host fixed the problems with booting and got it back uop for me... |
| 09:44.03 | blondie | so it's back on the net? |
| 09:44.09 | robin_sz | joeyjones, they have not "finished with it" ... or at least you cannot know that, it is probably root-kitted now |
| 09:44.10 | joeyjones | yes |
| 09:44.21 | Gnea | joeyjones: do you have a recent backup of the system? |
| 09:44.23 | robin_sz | crazy |
| 09:45.03 | joeyjones | yes it is crazy... |
| 09:45.16 | Gnea | no backups? |
| 09:45.23 | joeyjones | nope |
| 09:45.30 | Gnea | you are so fired. |
| 09:45.30 | joeyjones | atleast i don't think so... |
| 09:45.37 | robin_sz | ;) |
| 09:45.43 | Gnea | fired, with a capital eff |
| 09:46.05 | blondie | Gnea: he never said it was his employer's |
| 09:46.11 | Gnea | blondie: i know :) |
| 09:46.12 | robin_sz | joeyjones, the problem is that the machine is now in need of burning ... you don't know which of the binaries are trojans |
| 09:46.23 | Gnea | blondie: but if he has customers... :) |
| 09:46.44 | joeyjones | no customers or employer |
| 09:46.50 | joeyjones | just my server |
| 09:47.07 | Gnea | joeyjones: how far away are you located from your host provider? |
| 09:47.12 | Gnea | physically, that is |
| 09:47.28 | joeyjones | and it's actually unmetered ever since the router that was monitoring had to be routed around after it died... |
| 09:47.36 | joeyjones | Gnea: a few thousand miles |
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| 09:48.10 | Gnea | joeyjones: i hope you can backup the important shit on there, and do it quick, and put it someplace safe where you can sanitize it with a virus checker |
| 09:48.20 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:48.27 | Gnea | you think it's a joke |
| 09:48.37 | joeyjones | that reminds me, i never did figure out how clamscan works and it's already installed |
| 09:48.40 | robin_sz | well, good luck. basically, the box needs burning now, nothing other than a format and re-install will ever make it safe |
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| 09:48.42 | blondie | maybe there's nothing important |
| 09:48.44 | Gnea | it's easy |
| 09:48.51 | Gnea | clamscan <file[s]> |
| 09:48.58 | joeyjones | blondie: jsut gigs and gigs of anime/manga |
| 09:49.16 | Gnea | just have the freshclam set to update every several hours |
| 09:49.26 | Gnea | download that shit into a chroot environment |
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| 09:49.52 | Gnea | joeyjones: man, if it's gigs and gigs, you may as well kiss it all goodbye |
| 09:50.19 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:50.34 | joeyjones | i amy jsut be overreacting... |
| 09:50.45 | joeyjones | so i assume that tripwire needs root access... |
| 09:51.01 | robin_sz | yes, and it needs to be installed WAY before you get rooted ;) |
| 09:51.31 | robin_sz | too late now |
| 09:51.48 | robin_sz | and yo uare not in the sudoers file? |
| 09:52.06 | joeyjones | sudoers? |
| 09:52.11 | robin_sz | ahh. |
| 09:52.16 | robin_sz | never mind ;) |
| 09:53.26 | Lateralus | woohoo |
| 09:53.29 | robin_sz | does the phrase "closing the door after the horse has bolted" mean anything to you? |
| 09:53.39 | robin_sz | actually, not bolted ... |
| 09:53.50 | Lateralus | Now I have 1200gigs on a raid5 setup; 826gigs, and I can safely lose a drive :) |
| 09:54.03 | robin_sz | boilted, run away, taken by gypsies and is now being reporocessed into glue and cat food |
| 09:54.23 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:54.30 | joeyjones | there was nothing on ym system anyway |
| 09:54.32 | joeyjones | *my |
| 09:54.43 | robin_sz | s/was/is/ |
| 09:54.55 | joeyjones | lol |
| 09:55.13 | joeyjones | jsut anime/manga |
| 09:55.23 | robin_sz | pr0n |
| 09:55.27 | joeyjones | nope |
| 09:55.29 | joeyjones | that |
| 09:55.40 | joeyjones | that's on ym computer under music/korn |
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| 09:57.06 | xav_ | hi |
| 09:57.38 | xav_ | I asked a few days ago what was taking so long at boot, it was stuck like 10 sec each time at some point |
| 09:57.43 | Gnea | joeyjones: lemme guess: you live in canada? |
| 09:57.43 | xav_ | well, it was ntpdate |
| 09:57.48 | joeyjones | yes!! |
| 09:57.57 | Gnea | thought so lol |
| 09:58.00 | joeyjones | why? |
| 09:58.01 | xav_ | in ntpdate config, there are 4 servers, which are all very slow |
| 09:58.14 | joeyjones | Gnea: WHY? |
| 09:58.14 | Gnea | cuz cannucks are known for leaving their doors unlocked ;) |
| 09:58.19 | xav_ | they take 2.5 sec each, and the service takes 10 sec to start |
| 09:58.25 | joeyjones | i'm from bc FTW! |
| 09:58.29 | xav_ | so it seems it uses all servers |
| 09:58.38 | Gnea | it's all the same to me |
| 09:58.39 | xav_ | does anyone know why? |
| 09:58.53 | joeyjones | canucks are from bc... |
| 09:59.01 | Gnea | yes |
| 09:59.13 | joeyjones | and i'm from bc |
| 09:59.17 | joeyjones | so i'm an uber ca nuck! |
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| 09:59.33 | Gnea | xav_: maybe you need to find a time server that doesn't lag as much |
| 09:59.54 | xav_ | yes, I found some, but is it better to have several servers ? |
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| 10:00.05 | xav_ | why are there 4 by default? |
| 10:00.07 | joeyjones | Gnea: so how cna i ahve clamscan scan everything? |
| 10:00.12 | Gnea | joeyjones: cool, now you just need to differentiate the concept of leaving your doors unlocked and leaving your server locked ;) |
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| 10:00.25 | Gnea | joeyjones: just run clamscan on the files |
| 10:00.28 | Gnea | clamscan * |
| 10:00.42 | xav_ | they are 0.debian.pool.ntp.org - 3.debian.pool.ntp.org |
| 10:00.48 | xav_ | they aren't related in any way? |
| 10:00.58 | Gnea | xav_: are they different ip's? |
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| 10:01.26 | xav_ | yes |
| 10:02.02 | Gnea | xav_: well they're using roundrobin dns, so it's going to be random everytime. |
| 10:02.17 | Gnea | xav_: perhaps you should find some french time servers |
| 10:02.32 | xav_ | yes, that's what I did. it's much faster :) |
| 10:02.49 | Gnea | cool, just put those in place of the debian ones and that should solve the problem :) |
| 10:02.51 | xav_ | I was wondering if it was a good idea to have 4 servers by default, which could be slow for some users |
| 10:03.06 | Gnea | test 'em out and use the fastest ones |
| 10:03.47 | joeyjones | so Gnea any suggestiong on how i can check if the password was changed or my hsot sjut fucked up and reset root after fixing it and used a random pass? |
| 10:03.56 | xav_ | I was also wondering why ntpdate uses all server. I thought it would just use the first if it works |
| 10:04.09 | xav_ | does it make the average of the 4 times or something? |
| 10:04.29 | Gnea | joeyjones: i would assume the box is KIA and just leave it off the 'net so it can be reinstalled later |
| 10:04.47 | eleftherios | I have just dist-upgraded a sarge system to etch but apt remains in version 0.6.44.2 (hence without the 2006 key) while the channel's bot tells me that latest apt is 0.6.43.1. Any ideas why apt was not upgraded to the latest available version? |
| 10:05.03 | Gnea | xav_: i think it uses another if it can't get a response within a certain amount of time |
| 10:05.21 | eleftherios | and why apt-get install apt tells me that apt is in the latest version? |
| 10:05.30 | Gnea | eleftherios: did you upgrade too? |
| 10:05.48 | joeyjones | Gnea: well leaving it on the net does nothing to me, so ohwell... |
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| 10:06.02 | xav_ | 0.6.44 isn't newer than 0.6.43 ? |
| 10:06.04 | eleftherios | Gnea, I run aptitute dist-upgrade |
| 10:06.06 | joeyjones | but i do want to track down whoever was bruting me around the time it started... |
| 10:06.15 | eleftherios | errr... |
| 10:06.18 | Gnea | joeyjones: er, it's compromised, they could still get in and use it for something else. keeping it up is stupid and irresponsible. |
| 10:06.25 | eleftherios | xav_, you are right |
| 10:06.27 | eleftherios | haha |
| 10:06.28 | eleftherios | d |
| 10:06.31 | Gnea | eleftherios: what about aptitude upgrade? |
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| 10:07.14 | eleftherios | Gnea, I didn't pay proper attention to the version numbers, xav_ is right |
| 10:07.21 | Gnea | ah ok |
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| 10:07.35 | eleftherios | Gnea, still...if apt has the 2006 key then why do I get the problem...? |
| 10:07.40 | joeyjones | omfg!! |
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| 10:07.45 | joeyjones | my new hd is full now! |
| 10:07.49 | Gnea | eleftherios: you'd have to re-update the key |
| 10:07.50 | joeyjones | mostly because of porn! |
| 10:08.00 | [vinyl] | hi. was there any change in the kernel apm-modules between 2.6.15 and 2.6.16? the latter can't poweroff one of my system any more (same with 2.6.17) while 2.6.15 has no problems doing that |
| 10:08.04 | Gnea | do people not use cd/dvd burners anymore? |
| 10:08.10 | joeyjones | i do... |
| 10:08.16 | joeyjones | jsut not for a while |
| 10:08.20 | Gnea | heh |
| 10:08.24 | joeyjones | and with a 250g hd it takes a while... |
| 10:09.06 | eleftherios | joeyjones, 250GB of porn? |
| 10:09.11 | joeyjones | no |
| 10:09.16 | joeyjones | like 50-100 |
| 10:09.42 | eleftherios | joeyjones, you haven't reached porn-baron status yet then :-) |
| 10:09.53 | eleftherios | Gnea, how do I update the key? |
| 10:10.08 | joeyjones | eleftherios: what's baron status then? |
| 10:10.18 | eleftherios | joeyjones, I am just joking |
| 10:10.45 | joeyjones | so any suggestions for how to collect ip adresses from a text file? |
| 10:11.30 | xav_ | grep |
| 10:11.41 | eleftherios | joeyjones, can you explain a bit more? |
| 10:11.59 | joeyjones | well my auth.log has a lot of ipadresses in it from proxies |
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| 10:12.13 | joeyjones | most trying to brute me |
| 10:12.21 | cairomax | hi |
| 10:12.31 | joeyjones | so i want to get in contact with as many people behind the proxies to check their logs |
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| 10:13.57 | [vinyl] | nobody have a pointer for me? |
| 10:15.16 | eleftherios | joeyjones, grep seems the most straight-forward way to do this |
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| 10:15.30 | sussudio | [vinyl]: http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/images/breeds/pointer.jpg |
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| 10:15.52 | [vinyl] | ;) |
| 10:15.52 | joeyjones | eleftherios: so how would i find ip addresses with grep? |
| 10:16.05 | joeyjones | but i only want originals, not repeats... |
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| 10:16.38 | noshadow | joeyjones: |sort | uniq |
| 10:16.42 | eleftherios | joeyjones, hm |
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| 10:18.34 | exy | hello i here |
| 10:18.52 | joeyjones | noshadow: so would ???.???.???.??? work for finding an ip? |
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| 10:20.33 | exy | este cineva din bihor peaci? |
| 10:21.06 | joeyjones | anyone? |
| 10:21.20 | exy | da |
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| 10:22.08 | eleftherios | joeyjones, just grep [0-9]\. <filename> | sort | uniq will do I guess |
| 10:22.31 | joeyjones | ok |
| 10:22.34 | joeyjones | thanks! |
| 10:22.53 | joeyjones | any idea what "Jul 1 14:04:34 jshinser sshd[29584]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for . failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT!" means? |
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| 10:24.39 | Generic | what exactly is the load average? |
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| 10:25.18 | noshadow | Generic: Some number which meaning changes with what kernel you use. |
| 10:25.18 | joeyjones | is that @ me? |
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| 10:26.04 | Generic | noshadow, that makes complete sense to me now, thank you for clarifying that for me or wise one :) |
| 10:26.28 | eleftherios | I have followed the instructions dpkg (the bot) has given me regarding 2006 key but I still get the same error regarding no public key available. Any ideas please? |
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| 10:26.45 | v3 | hello all |
| 10:26.46 | crazy_penguin | good day everyone! |
| 10:27.06 | joeyjones | noshadow: that sorta didn't work :p |
| 10:27.10 | v3 | i have some trouble getting debian installed ... i keep getting a message the lilo package failed to install /target/. ... |
| 10:27.18 | joeyjones | it just agve me my file back to me... |
| 10:27.20 | v3 | how do i get lilo installed to mbr ? |
| 10:27.40 | joeyjones | the file is like this... |
| 10:27.41 | joeyjones | Jul 1 02:11:52 jshinser sshd[22681]: Illegal user staff from 200.69.166.230 |
| 10:27.41 | joeyjones | Jul 1 02:11:59 jshinser sshd[22683]: Illegal user sales from 200.69.166.230 |
| 10:27.54 | joeyjones | and i sjut want a list of ips... |
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| 10:29.09 | v3 | boot virus detection is disabled ... |
| 10:30.17 | v3 | can i just remove whats' in th mbr via a bootcd ? |
| 10:30.29 | v3 | something similar to fdisk /mbr in dos ? |
| 10:30.35 | noshadow | v3: try to chroot into /target and run lilo there |
| 10:31.29 | joeyjones | noshadow: any idea how i could filter out the "Jul 1 02:11:52 jshinser sshd[22681]: Illegal user staff from " part? |
| 10:31.43 | noshadow | joeyjones: using sed |
| 10:32.23 | v3 | noshadow: tnx i think i know what went wrong ... i probabbly have an old sarge cd which uses linux2.4 and i am trying to get it to run on reiserfs !!! |
| 10:32.38 | joeyjones | sed? |
| 10:32.52 | noshadow | v3: your own data or other people's data on that fs? |
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| 10:33.07 | xav_ | something like that ? sed -e 's/^.*from //g' foo |
| 10:33.08 | v3 | noshadow: i don't have any data on that disk ... |
| 10:33.12 | v3 | so no worries |
| 10:33.39 | eif | where can i download debian for DVD/r- |
| 10:33.51 | joeyjones | xav: that makes no sense to me... |
| 10:34.03 | v3 | i have rebooted with linux26 ... lets see if it works |
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| 10:34.21 | noshadow | eif: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ |
| 10:34.27 | xav_ | joeyjones: why? |
| 10:34.48 | joeyjones | the "? sed -e 's/^.*from //g' foo" makes no sense to me |
| 10:34.56 | v3 | eif: try searching for jigdo on google with debian iso ... |
| 10:35.16 | eif | noshadow: what one of them___ |
| 10:35.33 | xav_ | I don't understand the "makes no sense" part. you find it stupid, or doesn't know what it does or? |
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| 10:36.13 | joeyjones | doesn't know what it does |
| 10:37.27 | xav_ | if you have a file with "blablabla from ip" lines, it'll remove the "blablabla from " part |
| 10:37.54 | joeyjones | so include the foo? |
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| 10:38.50 | joeyjones | so gre | sed or sed | grep? |
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| 10:39.13 | xav_ | though, if your file doesn't only have lines like that, it will display them |
| 10:39.20 | noshadow | joeyjones: if you grep for anything sed excludes first grep then sed |
| 10:39.27 | xav_ | so you could : grep from log | sed .. |
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| 10:39.40 | joeyjones | ok |
| 10:39.46 | robin_sz | joeyjones, you just wan the "illegal user" lines? |
| 10:40.17 | joeyjones | so.. |
| 10:40.32 | joeyjones | "grep [0-9]\. auth.txt | sort | uniq > results.txt | sed -e 's/^.*from //g' foo"? |
| 10:40.53 | xav_ | no |
| 10:41.01 | xav_ | put sed just after grep |
| 10:41.08 | joeyjones | ok... |
| 10:41.18 | xav_ | and remove the foo, it was for the file auth.txt |
| 10:41.24 | noshadow | joeyjones: I think you need a '[0-9]\.' otherwise the shell will consume the \ and you will only search for digits... |
| 10:41.25 | xav_ | but since you are piping, remove it |
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| 10:41.35 | joeyjones | "grep [0-9]\. auth.txt | sed -e 's/^.*from //g' | sort | uniq > results.txt"? |
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| 10:42.24 | xav_ | better grep for Illegal user or something if all the lines you want have that |
| 10:42.34 | robin_sz | zackly |
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| 10:42.42 | joeyjones | "grep '[0-9]\.' auth.txt | sed -e 's/^.*from //g' | sort | uniq > results.txt"? |
| 10:42.50 | joeyjones | xav: i want all ips... |
| 10:43.27 | xav_ | does every ip are on a "Illegal user" line? |
| 10:43.37 | joeyjones | doesn't matter... |
| 10:44.01 | joeyjones | i'll find them in the log later |
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| 10:44.46 | joeyjones | since 3/4 of them will be proxies... |
| 10:45.19 | joeyjones | worked perfectly... |
| 10:45.29 | vivek | ugh i have a bad feeling my mbr is gone .... |
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| 10:47.51 | robin_sz | you think they managed to break in by guessing a username and password? |
| 10:48.32 | joeyjones | yep... |
| 10:48.44 | robin_sz | joeyjones, which username do you think they guessed? |
| 10:49.05 | joeyjones | joey |
| 10:49.16 | vivek | jones is your password ? |
| 10:49.18 | joeyjones | since joey is the only one allowed it has to be it |
| 10:49.21 | joeyjones | no |
| 10:49.30 | vivek | ok its joey then ... |
| 10:49.34 | vivek | or jjones |
| 10:49.39 | robin_sz | joeyjones, and I presume you dont allow remote root logins? |
| 10:49.44 | joeyjones | because they would have had to break an 11 digit alphanumeric random password then a shit one to get to root |
| 10:49.48 | joeyjones | of course not |
| 10:49.55 | joeyjones | so i gave joey a stronger pass than root |
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| 10:50.26 | vivek | hmmz i need to give my system remote root login ... any tips on securing the same ? |
| 10:50.33 | joeyjones | but i atleast wanna bitch at someone! |
| 10:50.39 | robin_sz | easy answer .. dont allow any passwords .. rely always on keys |
| 10:50.48 | joeyjones | iunno how keys work... |
| 10:51.07 | robin_sz | joeyjones, ssh-keygen |
| 10:51.13 | robin_sz | follwo the instructions :) |
| 10:51.20 | gnuzi | when i double click on monodevelop shortcut...it doesnt start...but when i type monodevelop in terminal...it starts and works fine... |
| 10:51.25 | gnuzi | what could be the problem? |
| 10:51.42 | gnuzi | i check the path and cmd for the link...they all were OK |
| 10:51.52 | joeyjones | robin_sz: does putty support it? |
| 10:51.56 | robin_sz | yes |
| 10:52.37 | vivek | let me see if evil empire can take back mbr from dirty grub ... |
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| 10:53.18 | v33 | somehow grub and me have never had a happy relationship .. |
| 10:53.58 | joeyjones | robin_sz: seems they tries to break into root for a while... |
| 10:54.17 | joeyjones | where could i find more than jsut "May 22 13:07:02 jshinser sshd[17094]: User root not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers" |
| 10:54.28 | robin_sz | heh |
| 10:54.34 | robin_sz | they wanted you bad :) |
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| 10:54.52 | blondie | ssh keyes on their own are bad imo |
| 10:54.54 | blondie | -e |
| 10:55.01 | joeyjones | they started at "aanthony" |
| 10:55.30 | robin_sz | blondie, ssh keys help if you disable pw access entirely |
| 10:55.36 | blondie | robin_sz: maybe |
| 10:55.39 | joeyjones | robin_sz: any idea for a log that might have the ip address? |
| 10:55.58 | blondie | robin_sz: but they often mean that if you compromise one box, you compromise another :P |
| 10:55.59 | robin_sz | i address of? |
| 10:56.18 | joeyjones | the person trying to remote login to root |
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| 10:56.31 | joeyjones | it only shows what i copied above... |
| 10:56.38 | blondie | joeyjones: if only you use ssh and it's only from one place (or a few places) use hosts.allow/deny to restrict ssh access |
| 10:56.58 | robin_sz | joeyjones, they werent .. that was probably LOCAL attempts on root, after they got access to a user account |
| 10:57.12 | simonrvn | as always, a number of layers is best |
| 10:57.15 | blondie | joeyjones: I'd use AllowGroups too |
| 10:57.21 | joeyjones | not what that was... |
| 10:57.30 | robin_sz | joeyjones, they proably then used some form of privilege escalation .. possible because you failed to keep the box updated, right? |
| 10:57.38 | joeyjones | yep |
| 10:57.41 | blondie | and restrict ssh to certain accounts, ensureing they have strong passwords |
| 10:57.49 | blondie | (or use keys if you must) |
| 10:57.56 | joeyjones | but i want to catch the ip from before they realized that root was locked from external |
| 10:58.13 | blondie | joeyjones: auth.log has such things in it |
| 10:58.26 | robin_sz | probably the same one they got into the user account from |
| 10:58.39 | joeyjones | all auth.log has is "May 22 13:07:02 jshinser sshd[17094]: User root not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers" |
| 10:58.44 | joeyjones | i want an ip... |
| 10:58.52 | kristalino | what is the difference between patch -p 1 and patch -p 0 ? (i read the friendly thing, yes) |
| 10:58.55 | robin_sz | tough :) |
| 10:58.58 | blondie | well it should be there... maybe they removed it from the log |
| 10:59.06 | robin_sz | nah, its not logged |
| 10:59.13 | blondie | what's not logged? |
| 10:59.17 | robin_sz | th ip |
| 10:59.23 | xav_ | kristalino: it defines the number of levels to ignore in the path to the files |
| 10:59.25 | blondie | why not? |
| 10:59.25 | robin_sz | it is in most cases |
| 10:59.28 | robin_sz | but not all |
| 10:59.29 | noshadow | kristliano: whether you need a cd .. before it or not... |
| 10:59.30 | blondie | it should be logged |
| 10:59.42 | robin_sz | it isnt in all cases |
| 10:59.49 | blondie | why not? |
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| 10:59.59 | robin_sz | because |
| 11:00.02 | blondie | ... |
| 11:00.11 | xav_ | kristalino: just look at the path in the headers of the patch |
| 11:00.16 | kristalino | xav_, then the 0 might ignore nothing isn't it ? |
| 11:00.19 | robin_sz | because you havent sent in the patch ? |
| 11:00.24 | xav_ | kristalino: yep |
| 11:00.46 | blondie | my auth.log has mostly Jul 10 11:14:25 kronos sshd[11847]: refused connect from ::ffff:80.168.74.250 (::ffff:80.168.74.250) |
| 11:00.51 | blondie | and similar |
| 11:01.07 | blondie | (i've restricted ssh to a few networkss in the uk :) |
| 11:01.22 | xav_ | if it patches the file foo/bar/file.c then you've to be in some place where this path exist |
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| 11:01.39 | joeyjones | well it killed notepad... |
| 11:01.55 | xav_ | if you only have bar/file.c , then go where it is and use p1 |
| 11:01.57 | kristalino | xav_, thanks |
| 11:02.08 | blondie | joeyjones: notepad? |
| 11:02.13 | joeyjones | yep |
| 11:02.21 | joeyjones | local=xp home |
| 11:02.25 | blondie | what did? |
| 11:02.32 | blondie | get notepad++ for windows |
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| 11:02.39 | joeyjones | auth.log |
| 11:02.51 | joeyjones | 6.4mb |
| 11:03.00 | blondie | notepad++ can easily cope with large files |
| 11:03.05 | joeyjones | lol |
| 11:03.05 | robin_sz | better still, dump thatwindows and install debian |
| 11:03.13 | cmug | vim is for windows too |
| 11:03.24 | robin_sz | whatever, its all pointless |
| 11:03.29 | joeyjones | and linux can't handle most games well |
| 11:03.33 | blondie | somethings you need windows for |
| 11:03.34 | gnuzi | hey....what does it mean when a program doesnt start when double clicked...but starts when i write its name in terminal??? |
| 11:03.39 | robin_sz | what you gonna do? find there IP and drive down there? |
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| 11:04.01 | blondie | you can report to their ISP who may or may not care |
| 11:04.02 | joeyjones | robin_sz: mail every isp that they used for a proxy asking for logs |
| 11:04.11 | blondie | joeyjones: which you wont get |
| 11:04.14 | joeyjones | lol |
| 11:04.16 | robin_sz | pointless |
| 11:04.24 | blondie | at least in this country it would be illegal to give you them |
| 11:04.35 | joeyjones | actually asking them to ask their customer to send me logs |
| 11:04.48 | robin_sz | pointless |
| 11:04.54 | blondie | indeed |
| 11:04.55 | joeyjones | ntm then they know that they're an open proxy |
| 11:05.06 | blondie | ntm? |
| 11:05.07 | joeyjones | shutup! |
| 11:05.11 | joeyjones | not to mention |
| 11:05.25 | robin_sz | their customer will either be a clueless user, so wont know what a "log" is |
| 11:05.35 | robin_sz | or the hacker, so they wont respond anyway |
| 11:05.52 | blondie | well |
| 11:06.06 | xav_ | lol |
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| 11:06.15 | xav_ | that's weird.. |
| 11:06.20 | blondie | if they're from our network at work, i'll see to them ;) |
| 11:06.25 | robin_sz | if you put that effort into securing your box and getting it off the net, NOW, you might acheive something positive |
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| 11:06.56 | xav_ | robin_sz: it's still sad |
| 11:07.07 | roym | folks - how can I list all the IP addresses connected to ethernet subnet? |
| 11:07.08 | undesktop | from experience, I tell that suspend2 is better than swsusp (in all ways), so why isn't it in the Debian kernel? |
| 11:07.42 | robin_sz | roym, try nmap |
| 11:08.06 | roym | robin_sz: thanks. |
| 11:08.44 | RvGaTe | the support for ubuntu SUCKS BIGTIME.... (just wanted to say that) |
| 11:09.30 | blondie | s/the support for// |
| 11:10.20 | xav_ | I thought the same for debian the first times I tried it |
| 11:10.22 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: because it's not yet merged upstream. We support it though. |
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| 11:10.37 | blondie | wow they changed the cups web interface |
| 11:10.43 | RvGaTe | really? |
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| 11:10.46 | RvGaTe | to what |
| 11:11.13 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: you just have to rebuild your kernel with make-kpkg and --added-patches kernel-patch-suspend2 |
| 11:11.19 | dondelelcaro | s/kernel-patch-// |
| 11:11.53 | undesktop | dondelelcaro: so the patch is there in the source package? |
| 11:11.58 | xav_ | is it the same than their site? cups.org |
| 11:12.20 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: no, but it's packaged. |
| 11:12.34 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: it's pretty trivial to build a kernel with it applied. |
| 11:13.07 | joeyjones | so i have ~90 ips |
| 11:13.16 | undesktop | dondek: I don't find any package that contains the patch |
| 11:13.36 | dondelelcaro | !+info kernel-patch-suspend2 |
| 11:13.37 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 11:13.39 | dpkg | Package 'kernel-patch-suspend2' does not exist. |
| 11:14.11 | RvGaTe | fuck this ubuntu support, im debian all the way now :) |
| 11:14.34 | dondelelcaro | oh, it may have been removed now... but it used to be there |
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| 11:14.47 | joeyjones | robin_sz: it's down to 90! |
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| 11:15.16 | undesktop | dondelelcaro: I think the maintainers think, swsusp is the way to go |
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| 11:16.51 | perlmonkey | hi guys |
| 11:17.47 | perlmonkey | something strange, my server is logging everything to logs as logfile.log.0 and its stopped using the main filenames and compressing. Obviously something needs starting, any ideas? |
| 11:17.54 | nekromaan | hello, i build my own kernel, and get this error -> modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17.4/modules.dep:no such file or directory; which module is that? |
| 11:18.47 | cahoot | nekromaan: if you use kernelpackage thos kind of basic problems are avoided |
| 11:18.49 | RvGaTe | nekromaan, the 2.6.17.4 looks like kernel stuff, modules.dep looks like the module depository... |
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| 11:19.44 | nekromaan | cahoot: i use make-kpkg so i im using kernelpackage |
| 11:19.56 | nekromaan | RvGaTe: module depository? |
| 11:20.19 | RvGaTe | nekromaan, i have no idea, just thinking logic here... but dont count on it |
| 11:20.38 | cahoot | nekromaan: do eror reported when you installed the kernel deb? |
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| 11:20.50 | cahoot | nekromaan: doh - no error reported when you installed the kernel deb? |
| 11:21.00 | c00lfon | There is smth like (L)AMP package(full, apache, mysql, php + more) for Debian? |
| 11:21.52 | nekromaan | RvGaTe: no, i dont know what you with "module depository" mean? is this a kernel option or? |
| 11:22.12 | [TACO] | c00lfon? |
| 11:22.16 | nekromaan | cahoot: after installing the kernel with dpkg -i there were no errors |
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| 11:22.39 | cahoot | nekromaan: and you've rebooted to the new kernel? |
| 11:23.15 | c00lfon | [TACO], My friend asked me about LAMP package for Debian. Smth like all in one server. Like krasnalserv(http://www.krasnal.tk/) |
| 11:24.19 | c00lfon | And... I don't known ;) |
| 11:24.21 | [TACO] | I never heard of it |
| 11:24.49 | [TACO] | I use Apache, MySQL and PHP (mod too) as seperate |
| 11:25.38 | c00lfon | But my friend heard/saw smth like that for SuSE. |
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| 11:25.48 | [TACO] | give me a second |
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| 11:26.54 | c00lfon | (; |
| 11:27.05 | [TACO] | apt is taking its sweet time searching the repositories |
| 11:27.07 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 11:27.08 | perlmonkey | something strange, my server is logging everything to logs as logfile.log.0 and its stopped using the main filenames and compressing. Obviously something needs starting, any ideas? |
| 11:27.08 | nekromaan | cahoot: yep with that error |
| 11:27.13 | [TACO] | btw, I use the Sid Branch |
| 11:27.30 | cahoot | nekromaan: try to run depmod -a |
| 11:27.54 | [TACO] | c00lfon: I am not able to find any packages on my Sid Repositories |
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| 11:31.11 | c00lfon | [TACO], Ok, thanks. |
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| 11:31.43 | RvGaTe | hurray i got ubuntu support |
| 11:31.50 | RvGaTe | after 4 hours |
| 11:31.55 | redcliffe | hi - anyone used the ext2 undeletion tools? i'm trying to undelete a file i deleted less than 10 minutes ago, and haven't done anything to the filesystem since, but none of them are detecting the file |
| 11:32.41 | TARZEAU | redcliffe: backup? |
| 11:32.48 | TARZEAU | redcliffe: did you remount,ro ? |
| 11:32.54 | c00lfon | redcliffe, try dumpfs |
| 11:33.02 | TARZEAU | redcliffe: what kind of file is it? |
| 11:33.03 | c00lfon | redcliffe, or undelete function from mc |
| 11:33.03 | redcliffe | TARZEAU: yeah, the backup image i have is dead - a dead dvd |
| 11:33.08 | redcliffe | ah ok thanks |
| 11:33.24 | c00lfon | redcliffe, remount partition ro, and don't write too much on it |
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| 11:33.57 | nekromaan | cahoot: i did that, but no output |
| 11:33.57 | nadjyla | hello |
| 11:34.00 | c00lfon | redcliffe, dumpfs* |
| 11:34.22 | redcliffe | ah ok tryig now |
| 11:34.32 | redcliffe | TARZEAU: tar.gz |
| 11:34.42 | c00lfon | redcliffe, dumpfs /dev/xxxx, lsdel, stat <inode> , dump <inode> /some/path |
| 11:34.51 | nadjyla | i started a fsck.ext3 yesterday, and it s not yet finish :/ |
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| 11:36.40 | cahoot | nekromaan: ls /lib/modules/2.6.17.4/modules.dep |
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| 11:37.52 | redcliffe | c00lfon: what's lsdel? |
| 11:38.17 | TARZEAU | redcliffe: you can't get it from internet again? |
| 11:38.29 | c00lfon | redcliffe, list of just deleted files ;) |
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| 11:38.41 | c00lfon | redcliffe, not files, inodes* |
| 11:38.48 | redcliffe | TARZEAU: nup, code backup unfortunately |
| 11:38.54 | TARZEAU | c00lfon: what package does it come with? |
| 11:38.59 | c00lfon | redcliffe, You known i-nodes of deleted files? |
| 11:39.04 | redcliffe | c00lfon: what package is it in, couldn't find it with apt-caache |
| 11:39.27 | c00lfon | TARZEAU, It's in dumpfs program. ;) |
| 11:39.43 | c00lfon | Try lsdel in dumpfs. ;) |
| 11:39.59 | redcliffe | hrmm can't even find dumpfs |
| 11:40.23 | redcliffe | find a package named pdumpfs |
| 11:40.38 | jetscreamer | !apt-file |
| 11:40.38 | dpkg | apt-file is, like, util used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also auto-apt and pdo, or use apt-file: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename |
| 11:41.14 | c00lfon | Och, I'm sorry. |
| 11:41.17 | c00lfon | debugfs ;D |
| 11:41.23 | redcliffe | ah thanks |
| 11:41.24 | nekromaan | cahoot: modules.dep exists |
| 11:41.44 | cahoot | nekromaan: right - I'd reboot now |
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| 11:41.59 | c00lfon | lol |
| 11:42.00 | c00lfon | debugfs: lsdel |
| 11:42.00 | c00lfon | zsh: segmentation fault debugfs /dev/hda2 |
| 11:42.02 | c00lfon | ;D |
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| 11:42.23 | nekromaan | cahoot: and when the error comes again? |
| 11:42.24 | c00lfon | A, ok, thats reiserfs. I'm too tired. |
| 11:42.35 | cahoot | nekromaan: shouldn't |
| 11:43.01 | nekromaan | cahoot: error comes again :/ |
| 11:43.59 | cahoot | nekromaan: sorry no idea what has gone wrong then |
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| 11:44.25 | nekromaan | cahoot: np thx :/ |
| 11:44.37 | redcliffe | c00lfon: it's come up with no deleted inodes, does that mean it's scrubbed the freed space? |
| 11:45.05 | boodie | Hi - I would like to recompile a kernel for AMD64; where can I find it? |
| 11:47.10 | papak | hey guys, im having trouble creating modules for my kernel. eg: i tried to compile the madwifi drivers with modules-assistant but they failed. I checked the log and i noticed that kernelpath and kernelconf were pointing to /usr/src/linux, but my kernel source is in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.17. how can i make it so that it points to the right path? I havent had this issue before, but this is a new install. any suggestions? |
| 11:47.16 | redcliffe | c00lfon: when i go find free inodes, it only comes back with one, number 13 |
| 11:47.36 | TARZEAU | papak: in /usr/src ln -s kernel-source-2.6.17 linux |
| 11:47.53 | TARZEAU | boodie: www.kernel.org |
| 11:48.03 | papak | TARZEAU, thanks i'll try that |
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| 11:48.51 | redcliffe | just can't quite understand how the file could be totally gone so quick |
| 11:49.42 | papak | TARZEAU, how come this never happened before? I used to have sevral kernels that i played around with and would always create modules and point to the right tree. |
| 11:50.09 | TARZEAU | papak: no idea |
| 11:50.27 | joeyjones | so if anyone gets any ideas for how to follow through besides e-mailing their isps msg me. |
| 11:50.45 | boodie | I have an Athlon 3200; would the right kernel be "amd64-k8"? |
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| 11:54.32 | papak | this is the error I get -> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. |
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| 11:56.53 | TARZEAU | sussudio: will you update your bus system interfaces page? |
| 11:57.02 | TARZEAU | sussudio: w/ pci-e , pci-express? |
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| 12:01.50 | MatBoy | !wmv |
| 12:01.50 | dpkg | hmm... wmv is http://wiki.debian.org/WindowsMediaVideo : a Microsoft video format using proprietary technologies, partially reverse-engineered. support under Debian (without using non-free software) is limited. |
| 12:03.07 | redcliffe | is there something that you can really stuff up when using debugfs? i'm using it and on every partition i've tried lsdel shows no deleted inodes |
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| 12:03.49 | MatBoy | what is the best for wmv-files under kde ? |
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| 12:04.43 | RvGaTe | MatBoy, good question mat, i was thinking about that to |
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| 12:04.59 | MatBoy | RvGaTe, let's search together than :D |
| 12:04.59 | redcliffe | MatBoy: kaboodle from what i've found, although that is only a front end for the xinelibs |
| 12:05.15 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 12:05.16 | perlmonkey | something strange, my server is logging everything to logs as logfile.log.0 and its stopped using the main filenames and compressing. Obviously something needs starting, any ideas? |
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| 12:05.37 | MatBoy | redcliffe, ok, I have that installed ! |
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| 12:06.07 | Nulli | german caht avvalible ? |
| 12:06.30 | perlmonkey | !de |
| 12:06.30 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.freenode.net und irc.oftc.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on freenode and irc.oftc.net) |
| 12:06.41 | eleftherios | I have a laptop running Etch (using X.org) with an ATI X600 64mb card and I would like to use an external screen (larger than the laptop's) and an external usb keyboard. Any pointers on how I could have the laptop's screen shut off while I am using the external one? |
| 12:06.47 | drasko | hi all. What is the command to print hd information (free space and stuff)? |
| 12:07.44 | perlmonkey | elefherios: power management? |
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| 12:07.50 | redcliffe | anyone know why lsdel in debugfs might show no deleted files when there are heaps of deleted files on a filesystem? |
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| 12:08.13 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 12:08.27 | daryl- | Bit of an odd problem, hopefully someone might know the problem... |
| 12:08.29 | redcliffe | could it be due to me running ext3? |
| 12:08.36 | perlmonkey | can anyone see me? |
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| 12:08.41 | redcliffe | perlmonkey: no |
| 12:08.44 | perlmonkey | :P |
| 12:09.10 | daryl- | On my laptop 'U' doesn't work, 'u' does however. 'U' works in firefox on the laptop though, just not at the console or in any xterms. |
| 12:09.32 | perlmonkey | how strange |
| 12:09.40 | daryl- | exactly |
| 12:09.47 | daryl- | any reason why it might be doing that? |
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| 12:10.14 | perlmonkey | im not sure to be honest |
| 12:10.19 | abrotman | daryl-: keymap problem ? |
| 12:10.31 | daryl- | but why does it work in firefox? |
| 12:10.32 | daryl- | :/ |
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| 12:11.50 | daryl- | It works before at the login prompt |
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| 12:12.01 | daryl- | but as soon as I login, it dies |
| 12:12.24 | TARZEAU | !sussudio |
| 12:12.24 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass, tarzeau! |
| 12:12.43 | TARZEAU | sussudio: no more updates for: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sussudio/ ? |
| 12:12.50 | daryl- | ok |
| 12:12.51 | daryl- | fixed |
| 12:12.57 | sussudio | TARZEAU: nein. |
| 12:12.57 | daryl- | some crap in .inputrc |
| 12:12.58 | daryl- | :/ |
| 12:13.14 | blondie | did you say "u" when you meant "you" too many times? :D |
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| 12:20.05 | eleftherios | after installing xorg (the meta-package) and going through debconf's questions, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf remains empty... |
| 12:20.16 | eleftherios | fskin' installation |
| 12:20.26 | eleftherios | nothing ever works out of the box... |
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| 12:21.50 | eleftherios | which is the correct package to dpkg-reconfigure in order to configure X.org? |
| 12:22.08 | shining | xserver-xorg |
| 12:22.11 | shining | I think |
| 12:22.19 | eleftherios | this is the one I am trying |
| 12:23.15 | shining | it has always been a mess, I gave up a while ago and just edit it manually now |
| 12:23.16 | eleftherios | at the end I get: xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized |
| 12:23.30 | shining | yep, same here |
| 12:23.56 | eleftherios | I wonder how on earth debian based distros auto-configure even TV tuner cards and we can't |
| 12:24.02 | eleftherios | :-/ |
| 12:24.32 | shining | anyway, the xorg config file is too complicated for being configured this way |
| 12:24.57 | streuner | http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=+xserver-xorg+postinst+warning%3A+not+updating+%2Fetc%2FX11%2FX%3B+file+has+been+customized&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= |
| 12:25.01 | cahoot | eleftherios: the conf file usually has an explanation to the problem you encountered - unless yuo've totally replaced it with a custom file |
| 12:25.24 | eleftherios | cahoot, my xorg.conf is empty, this is a vanilla installation |
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| 12:26.29 | cahoot | eleftherios: oops - sounds like a bug then |
| 12:27.05 | streuner | read what google tell you |
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| 12:27.41 | cahoot | eleftherios: looks like streuner is trying to tell you something |
| 12:27.41 | eleftherios | streuner, I am |
| 12:27.49 | streuner | eleftherios: are you running ubuntu? |
| 12:27.57 | eleftherios | streuner, I have tried everything they have posted so far |
| 12:28.01 | eleftherios | streuner, I would never |
| 12:28.08 | eleftherios | streuner, I only use Debian, 3 years now |
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| 12:28.34 | streuner | so make a backup of the conf and remove the orginal then |
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| 12:28.41 | eleftherios | I have just upgraded a freshly installed sarge toi etch on my laptop |
| 12:28.43 | streuner | after that run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 12:28.43 | |mkay | ubuntu is made from debian |
| 12:28.51 | eleftherios | streuner, that was the first thing I tried |
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| 12:29.33 | Ronin | |mkay: but not debian :) |
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| 12:32.09 | |mkay | Ronin: ???? |
| 12:32.38 | Ronin | |mkay: ubuntu is forked of debian but isnt debian |
| 12:33.01 | |mkay | yeah, ik - its just a modification |
| 12:33.17 | TARZEAU | |mkay: alot of modification, and alot of removals |
| 12:33.26 | TARZEAU | |mkay: and quite some preconfiguration |
| 12:33.31 | eleftherios | hm, I can't get it to work and I can't even remove xserver-xorg... |
| 12:33.42 | |mkay | TARZEAU: IK - i fav etch |
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| 12:34.10 | adrakoa | hi |
| 12:34.15 | war95 | When one apt-get installs something, it installs all of the dependencies for that app, when one apt-get removes somethign can one also specify to remove all the depedencies related to that app? |
| 12:34.45 | TARZEAU | war95: no, but check deborphan |
| 12:34.47 | shining | war95: are you short on space ? |
| 12:34.58 | war95 | shingouz: no |
| 12:35.05 | war95 | TARZEAU: yeah, that sort of works |
| 12:35.32 | shining | removing them won't give you any benefits. but if you really want to, you could indeed use deborphan |
| 12:35.45 | war95 | Ill give you an example, a new package is released into -testing |
| 12:35.46 | streuner | eleftherios: ok, remove the whole X system or use a live CD to get xorg.conf and just cp that file into the folder |
| 12:36.06 | war95 | the package has 30 dependeices, and I only want to test it, then remove it, if you don't keep a log of all the crap it installed then its a bunch of wasted pkgs+space |
| 12:36.24 | jelly-home | war95: if you use aptitude instead of apt-get, it works. |
| 12:36.28 | TARZEAU | abrotman: i can see alot of crap in wnpp/being_packaged |
| 12:36.42 | abrotman | this is good! |
| 12:37.00 | war95 | jelly-home: aptitude install blah and then remove blah will uninstall blah + its 30 dependency packages? |
| 12:37.06 | streuner | eleftherios: why do you can't remove xserver-xorg? |
| 12:37.08 | jelly-home | war95: yes. |
| 12:37.10 | TARZEAU | abrotman: if i was DER FÜHRER, i'd zap it all with a wand of dead |
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| 12:37.20 | abrotman | TARZEAU: huh ? |
| 12:37.26 | TARZEAU | abrotman: too much nethack |
| 12:37.28 | war95 | jelly-home: wow, time to try that now! |
| 12:37.33 | eleftherios | it complains about dependencies |
| 12:37.34 | abrotman | ok |
| 12:37.50 | jelly-home | war95: unless some other package you installed wants them. |
| 12:38.02 | eleftherios | streuner, "dependency problems - not removing" |
| 12:38.11 | blondie | is "eterm" not in etch? |
| 12:38.14 | war95 | installing etherreal jelly |
| 12:38.16 | war95 | then will remove it |
| 12:38.21 | jelly-home | war95: also, aptitude will not remove anything installed with apt-get install |
| 12:38.24 | war95 | The following NEW packages will be automatically installed: -> ethereal-common libadns1 libadns1-bin |
| 12:38.29 | streuner | eleftherios: show us in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 12:38.36 | war95 | jelly-home: thats fine, I am only using aptitude |
| 12:38.40 | war95 | jelly-home: for this pkg |
| 12:39.00 | eleftherios | streuner, I don't understand why I have to go to such lengths for a vanilla installation. This is a fresh system, I haven't modified anything? Is Etch *so* broken? |
| 12:39.03 | joeyjones | anyone wanna guess how long it will take clamscan to scan 160gb? |
| 12:39.18 | war95 | jelly-home: that is very nice. |
| 12:39.20 | TARZEAU | joeyjones: 3 hours |
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| 12:39.34 | streuner | eleftherios: uh, ever tried sid instead? |
| 12:39.35 | eleftherios | streuner, that was regarding the booting from a live cd, not tha pasting or error message |
| 12:39.53 | joeyjones | lol |
| 12:40.05 | streuner | eleftherios: you said you are running 3 years debian, just try it then |
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| 12:40.12 | newbie_ | hi |
| 12:40.14 | infernix | any clues as to why my pc turns off whenever i flick the lightswitch? |
| 12:40.17 | infernix | :) |
| 12:40.18 | jelly-home | eleftherios: xorg7 is particularly broken at present |
| 12:40.19 | eleftherios | streuner, I have no reason to do so, I have work to do |
| 12:40.22 | newbie_ | can anyone help me to get dhcp working? |
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| 12:40.30 | war95 | jelly-home: thanks |
| 12:40.41 | TARZEAU | infernix: what light is that? 5 x 200Watt bulbs? |
| 12:40.52 | Ronin | newbie_: best just to state the problem/ask the question |
| 12:40.56 | eleftherios | jelly-home, hm, I can only get my laptop to work with X.org |
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| 12:41.13 | newbie_ | ok, so i can't manage to get an ip via dhcp |
| 12:41.22 | joeyjones | infernix: probably a short in the wiring... |
| 12:41.42 | newbie_ | dhclient always shows me that there isn't any dhcpoffer |
| 12:41.44 | infernix | well it's 12v dimmed lights with a transformator (dunno if thats the right word in english) |
| 12:41.45 | blondie | infernix: dodgy wiring |
| 12:41.55 | blondie | transformer |
| 12:41.57 | jelly-home | eleftherios: I was referring to your "etch is broken." I didn't say you had an alternative. ;-) |
| 12:42.03 | newbie_ | but lsmod shows me that the nic's module is enabled |
| 12:42.11 | newbie_ | what can i do? |
| 12:42.14 | infernix | silly thing is, there's 2 pcs, 2 monitors, all connected to the same outlet, but only one pc turns itself off |
| 12:42.49 | newbie_ | i have a router that also connects to windows pc's via dhcp to the www |
| 12:42.52 | streuner | newbie_: fix your router |
| 12:43.10 | blondie | thw www? |
| 12:43.12 | blondie | the wee? |
| 12:43.17 | blondie | FFS |
| 12:43.20 | newbie_ | the world wide web ... |
| 12:43.31 | blondie | the web isn't the internet :) |
| 12:43.47 | newbie_ | i know ... i'm in that business |
| 12:43.51 | streuner | blondie: /j #semantic+gramar-school ;-) |
| 12:43.59 | newbie_ | but it's the most important part of it |
| 12:44.07 | blondie | bull is it |
| 12:44.15 | eleftherios | jelly-home, it is amazing...I am installing xorg on a fresh Etch installation, it runs, I go through the configuration steps and all I get is an *empty* /etc/X11/xorg.conf !!! |
| 12:44.18 | newbie_ | any ideas how to fix it? |
| 12:44.33 | blondie | streuner: sorry, but they're completely different things |
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| 12:45.09 | Ronin | blondie: too early to be that ar, its the weekend :) |
| 12:45.12 | streuner | newbie_: you said you get no offer, so it seems dhcp working on the debian box correct |
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| 12:45.43 | newbie_ | yes, i see it the same way |
| 12:45.50 | streuner | newbie_: run 'ifdown -a ; ifup -a' and see in the logs what happens, show us that in paster bot |
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| 12:46.18 | newbie_ | well, i can't access the net from my linux computer .. that's the main issue |
| 12:46.32 | newbie_ | but i already figured it out and it didn't work |
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| 12:47.07 | streuner | we need details |
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| 12:47.27 | newbie_ | ifdown -a sys listening on lpf /eth0/00:14:6c:30:81:ae |
| 12:47.32 | newbie_ | sending on ... the same |
| 12:47.41 | newbie_ | sending on socket/fallback |
| 12:48.20 | newbie_ | ifup -a says the same |
| 12:48.40 | newbie_ | and dhcpdicover on ehß th 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 |
| 12:48.44 | streuner | did you try pump? |
| 12:48.49 | newbie_ | on eth0 sorry |
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| 12:49.03 | newbie_ | than inteval 10, 16, 8,9,13 |
| 12:49.11 | newbie_ | nodhcpoffers received |
| 12:49.19 | SeanTater | if I want to switch my hardware clock to UTC (from local time), and I have dual-booted kubuntu dapper and debian sid, how might I do that? |
| 12:49.23 | newbie_ | no working leases in persistent database -sleeping |
| 12:49.30 | newbie_ | that's all |
| 12:49.40 | abrotman | SeanTater: so for which are you asking? |
| 12:49.46 | SeanTater | abrotman: both |
| 12:50.00 | newbie_ | any wild guesses for the reasons? |
| 12:50.01 | abrotman | i hav eno idea how kubuntu does it .. check /etc/default/rcS |
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| 12:50.10 | abrotman | for sid i mean |
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| 12:51.45 | newbie_ | streuner: what's up? |
| 12:51.51 | abrotman | cows |
| 12:52.31 | sng | abrotman: You're going to get what you deserve. |
| 12:52.59 | abrotman | sng: i hope it's a blonde |
| 12:53.03 | streuner | newbie_: we asked you a question... |
| 12:54.20 | newbie_ | which one |
| 12:55.15 | newbie_ | i pasted everything in this window |
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| 12:56.02 | Althaser | where can I configure the eggdrop ? please |
| 12:56.05 | streuner | <streuner> did you try pump? |
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| 12:56.27 | newbie_ | what's pump? |
| 12:56.36 | sussudio | abrotman: Piggy's been upgraded, i still have to clean up after him, though, he's made a bit of a mess. |
| 12:56.37 | streuner | !info pump |
| 12:56.42 | blondie | Althaser: try asking a more relevant channel |
| 12:56.43 | dpkg | pump: (BOOTP and DHCP client for automatic IP configuration), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.8.24-2 (sid), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 12:57.06 | abrotman | sussudio: it's your sty! |
| 12:57.11 | sussudio | :-| |
| 12:57.12 | abrotman | sussudio: you broke Piggy?!?! |
| 12:57.19 | sussudio | abrotman: 3 years of accumulated dust. |
| 12:57.36 | abrotman | sussudio: is this the upgrade finally? |
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| 12:57.57 | sussudio | abrotman: old box was a p2-266 with 128MB and a 8GB UDMA33 IDE drive. new box is a dual p3-550 with 512MB and a 9.1GB Ultra80 SCSI drive. |
| 12:58.05 | abrotman | woohoo! |
| 12:58.09 | Althaser | blondie yeah sure thanks ;) |
| 12:58.09 | abrotman | wait .. that's a small drive |
| 12:58.10 | newbie_ | i don't have this software obviously |
| 12:58.38 | newbie_ | well , i don't have internet access on the relevant computer, so i can't install it |
| 12:58.59 | SeanTater | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.03 | sussudio | abrotman: it's only about 20MB a month for debian logs |
| 12:59.04 | abrotman | sussudio: that will sure process logs faster |
| 12:59.08 | abrotman | sussudio: ah .. ok |
| 12:59.24 | sussudio | abrotman: yeah, but only one cpu at a time :-\ |
| 12:59.39 | abrotman | threading sucks! |
| 13:00.09 | sussudio | still, pisg doesn't bog down the entire PC anymore now. |
| 13:03.37 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 13:05.15 | streuner | newbie_: could it be, that the server still have the lease? |
| 13:05.47 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 13:05.52 | perlmonkey | something strange, my server is logging everything to logs as logfile.log.0 and its stopped using the main filenames and compressing. Obviously something needs starting, any ideas? |
| 13:06.19 | streuner | newbie_: are you running kubuntu? |
| 13:06.39 | perlmonkey | hi streuner |
| 13:06.44 | streuner | hi |
| 13:07.16 | newbie_ | no, xubuntu ... but i also tried debian, kubuntu, ubuntu, suse, ... |
| 13:07.23 | newbie_ | nothing works |
| 13:07.24 | blondie | perlmonkey: I aim to please ;P |
| 13:07.29 | blondie | erm |
| 13:07.30 | blondie | Althaser |
| 13:07.33 | blondie | o.O |
| 13:07.57 | newbie_ | i just want to have a linux with internet |
| 13:08.04 | perlmonkey | blondie or should that be kill? |
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| 13:08.10 | ceegee | hello |
| 13:08.11 | streuner | newbie_: install debian, otherwise we can't help. |
| 13:08.26 | newbie_ | you won't be able to help me than either |
| 13:08.32 | blondie | perlmonkey: only when I'm in a bad mood |
| 13:08.42 | newbie_ | i have experimented enough with these things |
| 13:08.43 | Althaser | blondie ? |
| 13:08.44 | Ronin | newbie_: sure we can then if you're running debian |
| 13:08.51 | ceegee | I want to use courier-maildrop with mysql in debian sarge, do I have to create a maildropmysql.conf for this case? |
| 13:08.58 | perlmonkey | blondie: do you know why my logging has gone messed up then? |
| 13:08.59 | newbie_ | then i will have an old kernel |
| 13:09.06 | newbie_ | and no internet access either ... |
| 13:09.13 | blondie | perlmonkey: yes, mine did that the other day |
| 13:09.20 | SnowVictim | newbie_: what's you problem? |
| 13:09.21 | perlmonkey | oh what causes it? |
| 13:09.29 | blondie | perlmonkey: restart syslogd, you might need to kill it |
| 13:09.35 | perlmonkey | ok thanks |
| 13:09.43 | streuner | everybody here running debian and have i-net access plus new kernels, so how do you know that? :-) |
| 13:09.43 | Ronin | newbie_: old kernel? 2.6 is old for you? |
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| 13:10.19 | streuner | Linux version 2.6.17-1-k7 (Debian 2.6.17-3) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060708 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-8)) #1 SMP Thu Jul 13 14:56:45 UTC 2006 |
| 13:10.19 | newbie_ | my problem is that i don't get an ip via dhcp, and it doesn't matter whether i use debian or kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, ... |
| 13:10.19 | newbie_ | i tried all of them |
| 13:10.31 | jelly-home | newbie_: does it work in windows? |
| 13:10.34 | SnowVictim | newbie_: are you sure you don't use an exotic network card? |
| 13:10.43 | abrotman | sng: but i corrected myself! |
| 13:11.05 | Ronin | newbie_: 2 choices as i see it, install debian and come back :) 2. /join #xubuntu |
| 13:11.12 | sng | abrotman: Naw, not that. Gotta work. The twit finally called back. |
| 13:11.19 | streuner | newbie_: sounds like an router issue |
| 13:11.21 | lunitik | streuner: I didn't know you were a DD? |
| 13:11.29 | streuner | nah |
| 13:11.33 | abrotman | sng: ah ok |
| 13:11.45 | lunitik | streuner: how you get @debian.org then? |
| 13:11.58 | streuner | lunitik: its an official debian kernel |
| 13:11.59 | newbie_ | yes it works in windows and the network card isn't exotic at all, netgear fa311 |
| 13:12.19 | newbie_ | in #xubuntu they can't help me either |
| 13:12.27 | newbie_ | nor in #linuxhelp |
| 13:12.31 | newbie_ | nor in #ubuntu |
| 13:12.32 | streuner | lunitik: "waldi" is one of kernel-maintainers |
| 13:12.33 | newbie_ | nor .... |
| 13:13.09 | newbie_ | and i don't continue to try different linux distributions if i'm not convinced that an approach will definitely succeed |
| 13:13.18 | jelly-home | newbie_: can you see any network traffic at all on it using eg. tcpdump? |
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| 13:13.39 | possie | is there something similar to kickstart for debian? |
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| 13:13.44 | newbie_ | tcpdump return no suitable device found |
| 13:13.51 | adrakoa | newbie_, ifconfig? |
| 13:13.52 | SnowVictim | newbie_: other thing would be to try to set up the network interface manually... |
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| 13:14.11 | newbie_ | it didn't work either |
| 13:14.12 | SnowVictim | newbie_: just to check if would work properly... |
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| 13:14.50 | jelly-home | newbie_: bring the interface up with ifconfig eth0 up, then try again |
| 13:15.27 | adrakoa | newbie_, ifconfig x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x the ip what you want), route add default gw x.x.x.x ( ip of gateway ), echo nameserver x.x.x.x > /etc/resolv.conf ( ip of dns ) |
| 13:15.36 | adrakoa | ifconfig ethX |
| 13:15.44 | newbie_ | the same with ifconfig eth0 up |
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| 13:16.31 | streuner | newbie_: how does your interfaces looks like? |
| 13:17.01 | perlmonkey | blondie: still not logging right :-/ I killed and restarted klogd |
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| 13:17.57 | blondie | perlmonkey: sysklogd |
| 13:18.02 | blondie | did you restart that |
| 13:18.08 | streuner | newbie_: auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback |
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| 13:19.42 | perlmonkey | blondie: sorry i did reload and not restart, all is well now thanks :) |
| 13:19.49 | drasko | Compilation of this simple "Hello World" module, example 1 from Linux Device Drivers book fails. Can somebody take a look at: http://pastebin.ca/88887. Does it have to do something with my kernel being Debian, and not Vanilla? |
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| 13:20.45 | blondie | perlmonkey: you... monkey! |
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| 13:21.38 | blondie | :P |
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| 13:32.39 | newbie_ | adrakoa: ifconfig x.x.x.x sys that it couldn't read the interface information: device not found |
| 13:33.13 | adrakoa | newbie_, ifconfig ethX x.x.x.x sorry |
| 13:34.31 | newbie_ | adrakoa: toude add default 192.168.2.1 returns: siocaddrt: no such device |
| 13:34.39 | newbie_ | route sorry |
| 13:34.49 | adrakoa | default gw |
| 13:35.04 | adrakoa | route add default gw |
| 13:35.11 | newbie_ | oops |
| 13:35.21 | adrakoa | newbie_, you know man? |
| 13:35.30 | newbie_ | yes i konw |
| 13:35.45 | adrakoa | man route .. with examples |
| 13:35.50 | adrakoa | better than me |
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| 13:36.49 | adrakoa | newbie_, the last ping -c 10 192.168.2.1 |
| 13:36.54 | newbie_ | what about this line with nameserver and resonlv.conf |
| 13:37.23 | adrakoa | newbie_, echo nameserver 192.168.2.1 > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:37.35 | adrakoa | or ip of your dns |
| 13:38.50 | newbie_ | permission denied |
| 13:39.00 | adrakoa | newbie_, like root |
| 13:39.06 | adrakoa | su |
| 13:39.07 | newbie_ | as sudo |
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| 13:39.33 | adrakoa | newbie_, sudo passwd root, choose a passwd for root, and su |
| 13:39.40 | Tallu | sudo su and then do it :P |
| 13:40.10 | adrakoa | # isn't bad |
| 13:40.18 | blondie | excuse me |
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| 13:40.26 | aeronadix | if I can successfully load a module does that mean the driver works. Can I load a driver module for a piece of hardware that is not even connected? I have wireless net usb and it is connected and I loaded insmod hostap, but iwconfig-no wireless extensions |
| 13:40.32 | blondie | adrakoa: do you think this is #ubuntu? |
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| 13:40.47 | adrakoa | blondie, is gnu, isn't it? |
| 13:40.56 | blondie | sorry? |
| 13:41.08 | blondie | root already has a password in debian |
| 13:41.57 | adrakoa | blondie, this man uses ubuntu, i can help him, is there any trouble? |
| 13:42.05 | blondie | yes |
| 13:42.10 | blondie | this isn't the channel for it |
| 13:42.13 | blondie | go to #ubntu |
| 13:42.14 | blondie | +u |
| 13:42.24 | newbie_ | there they can't help me either ... |
| 13:42.27 | aeronadix | what about my question? |
| 13:42.32 | blondie | both of you can go :P |
| 13:42.37 | blondie | !they won't help |
| 13:42.40 | blondie | !they won't help me |
| 13:42.42 | blondie | bah |
| 13:42.43 | blondie | whatever |
| 13:42.50 | newbie_ | when i tried debian last week, no one could help me here either |
| 13:42.58 | adrakoa | aeronadix, dmesg after insmod or modprobe |
| 13:43.06 | newbie_ | that's the way it is blondie |
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| 13:43.18 | blondie | newbie_: we certainly won't help you with ubuntu |
| 13:43.34 | adrakoa | blondie, i was talking with him.. |
| 13:43.35 | newbie_ | you're wrong: YOU won't help me |
| 13:43.41 | pngwn | newbie_, if you're going to use linux you'll need to read and help yourself or break out a credit card for tech support ;) |
| 13:43.43 | blondie | adrakoa: well talk in pm or #ubuntu |
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| 13:43.59 | blondie | adrakoa: don't help people with ubuntu in here |
| 13:44.08 | adrakoa | why? |
| 13:44.16 | adrakoa | first all is GNU |
| 13:44.26 | blondie | this is #debian |
| 13:44.28 | adrakoa | GNU /debian or GNU / ubuntu |
| 13:44.36 | asg | adrakoa: go to #ubuntu if you want to help |
| 13:44.40 | blondie | talking about ubuntu is OFFTOPIC |
| 13:44.42 | Tallu | newbie_: the thing is ubuntu just isnt supported here, it should be discussed in the proper channel. |
| 13:44.45 | Tallu | !ubuntu |
| 13:44.45 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. An Ancient African word that means "I can't install Debian", according to Mark Pilgrim |
| 13:44.53 | adrakoa | i talking about sudo |
| 13:45.01 | adrakoa | it's a debian package |
| 13:45.13 | blondie | sigh |
| 13:45.14 | aeronadix | how do you keep a dmesg window open and running all the time? |
| 13:45.21 | aeronadix | like woody used to have |
| 13:45.25 | blondie | 14:39:34 < adrakoa> newbie_, sudo passwd root, choose a passwd for root, and su |
| 13:45.25 | asg | adrakoa: that's irrelevant if it's running on ubuntu |
| 13:45.33 | blondie | that's completely WRONG for debian, so don't say it |
| 13:45.46 | asg | that's just wrong |
| 13:45.56 | newbie_ | that also works with debian |
| 13:46.07 | newbie_ | but you don't need to do it |
| 13:46.10 | asg | newbie_: but it's stupid if you already have sudo |
| 13:46.12 | newbie_ | in fact you can |
| 13:46.13 | blondie | not if sudo is setup properly it doesnt |
| 13:46.14 | jelly-home | newbie_: you already have a root password on debian. |
| 13:46.27 | adrakoa | stupid are politics |
| 13:46.27 | newbie_ | and you can change it using sudo |
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| 13:46.51 | jelly-home | newbie_: sudo is optional, and you have to get it configured by hand for that to work. |
| 13:47.11 | newbie_ | in my debian distribution it was available |
| 13:47.27 | adrakoa | newbie_, ubuntu is based in debian |
| 13:47.33 | aeronadix | anyone got wireless networking on their debian. I can't |
| 13:47.35 | newbie_ | i know ... |
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| 13:47.51 | jelly-home | newbie_: it's not installed by default. |
| 13:48.04 | newbie_ | perhaps not in the version you're using |
| 13:48.14 | Flakk | Hello people, Can somebody help with installing a printer under the debian etch? |
| 13:48.20 | adrakoa | aeronadix, after modprobe module, dmesg |
| 13:48.32 | aeronadix | adrakoa, I did |
| 13:48.36 | aeronadix | bad news |
| 13:48.46 | aeronadix | my usb wireless has no driver |
| 13:49.12 | aeronadix | plus I cant install linux-wlan-ng |
| 13:49.19 | blondie | !tell Flakk about cups |
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| 13:49.48 | newbie_ | adrakoa: ping -c 10 192.168.2.1 => destination host unreachable |
| 13:50.06 | blondie | #ubuntu |
| 13:50.08 | jelly-home | newbie_: It's Priority: optional, so you might or might not have it. If you have it, good, but it's not really a general answer to "how do I become root". |
| 13:50.11 | streuner | Flakk: what kind of printer do you have? |
| 13:50.19 | Flakk | blondie: I have a particular problem while using administration through localhots 631 or foomatic gui |
| 13:50.37 | blondie | Flakk: well say what it is |
| 13:50.38 | Flakk | streuner laser epson 3000 parallel port |
| 13:51.23 | blondie | newbie_: please stop asking ubuntu questions in here. |
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| 13:51.46 | newbie_ | you can kick me if you manage to do |
| 13:51.53 | Tallu | newbie_, adrakoa, could you please take it to pm? |
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| 13:52.14 | adrakoa | pm? |
| 13:52.15 | Flakk | blondie: i install the printer ok (only as a root though). but afterwards I can print only passing again by 631, and not by "lpr" |
| 13:52.30 | newbie_ | pm? |
| 13:52.32 | blondie | I think lpr doesn't work with cups |
| 13:52.35 | blondie | newbie_: /msg |
| 13:52.43 | dvs | that's cups-bsd? |
| 13:52.49 | jelly-home | Flakk: ethier use "lp" or install cupsys-bsd if you want lpr-compatible commands. |
| 13:52.51 | blondie | try "lp" instead |
| 13:53.29 | dvs | !info cupsys-bsd sarge |
| 13:53.33 | dpkg | cupsys-bsd: (Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands), section net, is extra. Version: 1.1.23-10sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 47 kB, Installed size: 148 kB |
| 13:53.45 | petemc | lpr should work with cupsys-bsd |
| 13:53.45 | Flakk | I do not insist for lpr |
| 13:54.07 | Flakk | i am ok with lp |
| 13:54.09 | Flakk | lemme try |
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| 13:55.51 | Flakk | blondie: maybe you could help me with 631-installing ? I have chosen the name "p" ok, now it asks for device. what should I choose? |
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| 13:56.37 | blondie | Flakk: probably the parallel port |
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| 13:58.11 | Flakk | ok done i guess I know the driver, now I am trying to install it as a user and it does not work. should I do it as a root? |
| 13:58.33 | blondie | install it? |
| 13:58.37 | Flakk | yes |
| 13:58.41 | blondie | what do you mean by that? |
| 13:58.42 | dvs | Flakk: you don't have to install it for each user |
| 13:58.56 | Flakk | ok I "add printer" as a root |
| 13:59.11 | dvs | Flakk: then it's available to all |
| 13:59.13 | war95 | Has anyone gotten the HP Web JEt Direct software to work in Debian? According to the installer it is not supported, only SuSE and Fedora. You cannot bypass the check either. http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=961405&admit=-682735245+1152971814218+28353475 |
| 13:59.43 | newbie_ | adrakoa: pm's from unregistered users are blocked |
| 14:00.06 | adrakoa | 192.168.2.1 is your router? |
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| 14:00.18 | newbie_ | yes |
| 14:00.49 | adrakoa | newbie_, route |
| 14:01.00 | newbie_ | default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 14:01.19 | samhob | hello please hwo can we install gnome on testing |
| 14:01.20 | Flakk | blondie: ok this is done. I guess I should be able to open a file in GEDIT and print it from there? |
| 14:01.21 | newbie_ | 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 14:01.31 | blondie | Flakk: hopefully |
| 14:01.40 | blondie | newbie_: how many times do you need telling? |
| 14:01.43 | samhob | if if do apt-get install gnomce-desktop-environmet i get broekn packages and dependencyes |
| 14:01.57 | newbie_ | arbitrarily often |
| 14:01.59 | asg | samhob: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 14:02.04 | samhob | thx |
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| 14:02.06 | Flakk | blondie: sorry apparently it was NOT added. I try once more |
| 14:02.21 | adrakoa | newbie_, it should work.. |
| 14:02.36 | asg | samhob: try the others besides gnome-desktop-environment. If you still have problems, make sure you run 'apt-get update'. If problems continues, check the BTS. |
| 14:03.00 | samhob | there is not /msg dpkg install gnoem.. |
| 14:03.05 | samhob | yes i fif update |
| 14:03.07 | asg | samhob: type it in your irc client |
| 14:03.12 | samhob | i did |
| 14:03.20 | samhob | only 1 line appears |
| 14:03.21 | asg | samhob: gnome, not gnoem |
| 14:03.29 | samhob | oh i got it |
| 14:03.31 | newbie_ | is genmask 0.0.0.0 right? |
| 14:03.34 | samhob | yes sory typing fast |
| 14:03.34 | blondie | newbie_: no |
| 14:03.41 | adrakoa | newbie_, iptables -L ? |
| 14:03.49 | blondie | adrakoa: no |
| 14:04.03 | asg | !comfort blondie |
| 14:04.03 | dpkg | There, there, blondie. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:04.10 | blondie | x.x |
| 14:04.13 | newbie_ | adrakoa: nothing |
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| 14:04.33 | Flakk | blondie: I have a strange problem. the localhost:631 does not recognize the root password |
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| 14:05.07 | blondie | Flakk: how did you login to it before? |
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| 14:05.49 | Flakk | well when i connect to localhost:631 it does not ask for the passwords, but every time it asked I typed the root pass, sicne it rejects the others |
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| 14:06.02 | blondie | yes it should accept root |
| 14:06.37 | newbie_ | adrakoa: no output for chaininput, forward and output |
| 14:07.07 | Flakk | it does not want I am trying again. observe that the command line propmt accepts the root pass |
| 14:07.09 | blondie | newbie_: try #ubuntu |
| 14:07.19 | adrakoa | newbie_, echo nameserver 80.58.0.33 > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:07.52 | adrakoa | blondie, are you a bot against ubuntu? |
| 14:08.19 | blondie | no, Im annoyed by your constant offtopic conversations |
| 14:08.30 | Flakk | blondie: no it does not accept the root pass. what does it mean on earth |
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| 14:08.52 | adrakoa | ignore is the best way |
| 14:09.00 | asg | blondie: welcome to the club |
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| 14:09.36 | dvs | stoned: are you still drunk? ;-) |
| 14:09.42 | stoned | hung over man |
| 14:09.47 | dvs | !beer stoned |
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| 14:09.53 | stoned | no more |
| 14:09.59 | stoned | ! |
| 14:10.23 | gnuzi | i am compiling a kernel...in the menuconfig...there are some drivers (looks so)...they arent in my laptop...so can i uncheck them? |
| 14:10.29 | stoned | I have a problem with my last sid update, nothing critical, let me compile my info so I can ask a question |
| 14:10.32 | stoned | brb |
| 14:10.45 | adrakoa | gnuzi, lspci -vv |
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| 14:11.08 | gnuzi | what is that? |
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| 14:11.19 | gnuzi | i mean what it will do? |
| 14:11.31 | adrakoa | man lspci |
| 14:11.40 | gnuzi | ok...checking |
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| 14:11.44 | dvs | gnuzi: If they aren't in your laptop then you can uncheck them |
| 14:11.58 | gnuzi | ok...ty |
| 14:12.12 | gnuzi | wow...usefull tool...ty adrakoa... =) |
| 14:12.13 | newbie_ | adarakoa: now i have a nameserver entry in resolv.conf |
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| 14:13.10 | fasta | I have a file ~.Xdefaults in my home dir (when I do "ls" in my home dir it's on a line literally). Thus it's _not_ the file /home/<user>/.Xdefaults. How can I delete that file? |
| 14:14.01 | asg | fasta: rm '~.Xdefaults' |
| 14:14.16 | gnuzi | is there some magic script that checks/unchecks drivers in the kernel's configmenu automatically?... |
| 14:14.28 | gnuzi | according to what lspci -vv says... |
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| 14:14.35 | adrakoa | gnuzi, your mind |
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| 14:14.49 | fasta | asg: Thank you, I should have known that. |
| 14:14.56 | gnuzi | ok.. |
| 14:14.59 | asg | fasta: you're welcome |
| 14:15.34 | stoned | http://letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/example.jpg ---> I am using Sid and Kde 3.5.3 I also use the ttf-dejavu Serif Condensed font all over my system, qt/kde apps as well as gtk2 apps. It was fine/perfect until this morning when I routinely updated my sid box. As you can see in the screenshot, the SAME font in gtk2 apps looks horrible, grainy, and kinda chopped up, while the SAME font in KDE apps looks perfect. Could anyone help me figu |
| 14:15.34 | stoned | re out what the problem might be? I am using gtk2-engines-gtk-qt to switch the gtk2 styles, but it also remains to be the same problem with switch2 as well. |
| 14:15.40 | Flakk | blondie: I have apparently a sort of problem with the root password. I am trying foomatic-gui, and it answers the following:GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: |
| 14:15.40 | Flakk | Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
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| 14:16.06 | adrakoa | gnuzi, if you have doubts [M], if not [*] |
| 14:16.12 | asg | stoned: if you retrieve the previous packages from snapshot.debian.net and install them, does the problem go away? |
| 14:16.30 | stoned | asg, umm, dunno which packages, like pango? or what? |
| 14:16.54 | asg | stoned: you can get a general idea (if you didn't script(1) your updates) by looking at the timestamps in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 14:16.54 | gnuzi | ok |
| 14:17.03 | Flakk | what does it mean? |
| 14:17.34 | asg | stoned: it might be worth looking at the changelogs of the updated packages and the bts as well. |
| 14:17.36 | RvGaTe | Kinda funny, if you only look at this channel and see the people helping eachother, you can actually learn allot :) |
| 14:18.03 | stoned | and stop bothering people on skype too |
| 14:18.04 | stoned | ;) |
| 14:18.16 | asg | RvGaTe: yes, it used to be expected in IRCland that newbies would spend time lurking before coming in and asking offtopic moronic questions. Sadly, times have changed. |
| 14:18.17 | stoned | just kidding Rene |
| 14:18.20 | stoned | don't hit me |
| 14:18.21 | stoned | ! |
| 14:18.43 | dvs | RvGaTe: Sure, beat him when he's down |
| 14:18.43 | stoned | ouch |
| 14:19.07 | blondie | fldont know |
| 14:19.08 | stoned | asg, no log man |
| 14:19.15 | blondie | Flakk: dont know |
| 14:19.16 | RvGaTe | and stoned isn't even online on skype... |
| 14:19.30 | stoned | RvGaTe, not right now |
| 14:19.36 | RvGaTe | get ur ass on then |
| 14:19.39 | asg | stoned: actually, sid does logging so check /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 14:19.54 | stoned | im hung over as fuck, if I get on skype, I know my mom or dad back home will hit me up and I don't feel like talking to them |
| 14:19.57 | gnuzi | setting something as [*] (builtin) makes it faster than [M] (module)? |
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| 14:20.14 | pounard | hi |
| 14:20.20 | RvGaTe | hello |
| 14:20.25 | asg | gnuzi: not really |
| 14:20.29 | pounard | does someone know in which package is the file 'xorgconfig' ? |
| 14:20.37 | stoned | asg, umm, same thing happened on my etch box yesterday |
| 14:20.47 | stoned | fonts got fucked up after the last update |
| 14:21.06 | jetscreamer | real men with hair on their chest run sid |
| 14:21.12 | asg | stoned: well, I know that the xorg-x11 trans stuff was removed from etch yesterday causing some breakage. Dunno about sid though. |
| 14:21.21 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:21.25 | stoned | I'm hungry |
| 14:21.30 | asg | !feed stoned |
| 14:21.33 | gnuzi | ok |
| 14:21.34 | stoned | lol |
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| 14:21.51 | miL | Hi people |
| 14:21.52 | miL | do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube? |
| 14:22.06 | asg | miL: ask #intarweb |
| 14:22.06 | stoned | wtf does this have to do with debian? |
| 14:22.15 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 14:22.15 | adrakoa | gnuzi, [*] is inside kernel, [M] you can load after. |
| 14:22.15 | dvs | stoned: trolling |
| 14:22.19 | stoned | ahh |
| 14:22.22 | stoned | kinda figured |
| 14:22.26 | RvGaTe | dvs, but its not sunday.. |
| 14:22.30 | miL | is nothing in these channel asg |
| 14:22.33 | dvs | !sing sunday |
| 14:22.34 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 14:22.39 | Revelation | RvGaTe: somewhere it is :p |
| 14:22.43 | jetscreamer | !saturday |
| 14:22.43 | RvGaTe | .hehe |
| 14:22.43 | dpkg | saturday is probably Tardsday Eve |
| 14:22.44 | streuner | permanent sunday :-) |
| 14:22.45 | asg | miL: then start one, get famous, win awards |
| 14:22.46 | stoned | asg, I am there now, what should I be looking for in said directory |
| 14:22.53 | stoned | asg, /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 14:23.02 | asg | stoned: you're running sid, just look at /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 14:23.07 | stoned | oh |
| 14:23.08 | asg | stoned: it'll tell you what was installed |
| 14:23.10 | stoned | dong! |
| 14:23.31 | jetscreamer | !tell pounard -about apt-file |
| 14:23.43 | jetscreamer | !tell pounard -about xmd5 |
| 14:23.48 | jetscreamer | !tell pounard -about drxx |
| 14:23.56 | stoned | holy hell |
| 14:23.59 | asg | stoned: for future reference, if you're on a sarge or woody box with the same problem, a 'find /var/lib/dpkg/info -type f -mtime -1' will give you a hint as to what was installed in the last 24 hours. |
| 14:24.13 | jetscreamer | ooo |
| 14:24.32 | stoned | this makes me realize that no matter how much I know, I never know enough |
| 14:24.36 | stoned | nice |
| 14:24.46 | streuner | or a 'ls -lt /var/lib/dpkg/info/*' :-) |
| 14:24.50 | streuner | vice versa |
| 14:24.53 | RvGaTe | asg, thats a cool tip :) |
| 14:24.56 | pounard | jetscreamer> ok thanks, but i dont have a debian right now |
| 14:25.02 | jetscreamer | o |
| 14:25.04 | stoned | you are the man, man |
| 14:25.06 | asg | RvGaTe: it's saved my ass a few times :) |
| 14:25.17 | jetscreamer | death to the flies! |
| 14:25.38 | RvGaTe | stoned, what you doing tomorrow ? |
| 14:25.59 | stoned | I don't know, I plan on waking up though |
| 14:26.05 | RvGaTe | hehe |
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| 14:26.36 | pounard | jetscreamer> thx |
| 14:26.42 | pounard | good day all |
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| 14:27.12 | RvGaTe | you gotta help me set this xgl / xlg / glx /gxl / lgx / lxg stuff up (cant remember the name... and i think ill never will :S) |
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| 14:27.48 | stoned | X + GL |
| 14:27.53 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.04 | RvGaTe | aah |
| 14:28.09 | RvGaTe | so, what was it again? |
| 14:28.09 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 14:28.15 | stoned | oof! |
| 14:28.17 | ktwilight | is there a site that offers skype deb? |
| 14:28.27 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, www.skype.com/download |
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| 14:28.43 | ktwilight | :/ but....not from source... |
| 14:28.49 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, should be a debian package for download |
| 14:28.52 | stoned | ktwilight, skype deb umm, they dont' know how to make a fucking debian package. Just get the qt static binary precompiled from there, unpack somewhere, and run ./skype |
| 14:29.05 | ktwilight | hmmm... |
| 14:29.31 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ note the Debian package link (refers to a .deb file) |
| 14:29.37 | stoned | ubuntu is taking over the world and I don't like it |
| 14:29.39 | ktwilight | oh yea...... |
| 14:29.51 | ktwilight | thanks RvGaTe :) |
| 14:29.58 | RvGaTe | np |
| 14:30.00 | stoned | evilness |
| 14:30.07 | RvGaTe | !! hurray ! i helped someone today !! |
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| 14:30.26 | ktwilight | but the qt static binary is better eh stoned? |
| 14:30.56 | stoned | ktwilight, yes |
| 14:31.28 | stoned | ktwilight, deb package will give you dependency issues with libqtmt because they don't have seperate packages for sarge/testing/sid etc. |
| 14:31.38 | ktwilight | ahso |
| 14:31.45 | ktwilight | that was what i'm afraid of, dependency crap :) |
| 14:31.49 | ktwilight | thanks for the tip! :) |
| 14:31.52 | stoned | sure |
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| 14:32.07 | cahoot | ktwilight: fwiw the dynamic works fine for me on etch |
| 14:32.27 | jetscreamer | yeh get a flyswatter and the flys hide |
| 14:32.38 | stoned | but if he isn't using kde, then he needs the static tarball |
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| 14:32.44 | asg | jetscreamer: the Overmind is getting smarter |
| 14:32.44 | stoned | jetscreamer, walgreens man |
| 14:32.48 | ktwilight | what would the difference be between dynamic and static binary? |
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| 14:32.58 | ktwilight | i don't use kde, so.... |
| 14:33.12 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, haha, thank god im not the only one who likes gnome ! :D |
| 14:33.16 | asg | ktwilight: static binaries have library code linked in, dynamic ones link library code at runtime |
| 14:33.17 | stoned | jetscreamer, get the sticky tape that hangs down and it is scented for the insects that fly, so they come to it, land on it, get stuck. Hang oen in every room in the house |
| 14:33.26 | ktwilight | sorry, i don't use gnome... :P |
| 14:33.31 | RvGaTe | shit ! :P |
| 14:33.32 | ktwilight | but i would prefer gnome over kde |
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| 14:33.33 | ktwilight | haha |
| 14:33.35 | stoned | jetscreamer, it will definitely help a great deal with your fly problems |
| 14:33.37 | gnuzi | Use 4Kb for kernel stacks instead of 8Kb...when it is good? |
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| 14:33.48 | ktwilight | understood asg. :) |
| 14:33.52 | asg | gnuzi: try ##kernelnewbies |
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| 14:33.56 | gnuzi | ok |
| 14:33.57 | stoned | asg, dude I can't find the packages that would affect the font rendering in gtk2 apps |
| 14:34.03 | jetscreamer | i used to not kill spiders till one bit me and my leg swole up... now i have flies :( |
| 14:34.14 | ktwilight | RvGaTe, i prefer xfce over anything else. it's light, fast and do what i need |
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| 14:34.20 | stoned | jetscreamer, hopefully not on your swollen wound |
| 14:34.22 | ktwilight | i don't need extra crap...so... :D |
| 14:34.22 | stoned | ;) |
| 14:34.30 | jetscreamer | aha |
| 14:34.31 | asg | stoned: anything x related? Post a pastebin of what was upraded |
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| 14:34.38 | stoned | ok |
| 14:34.41 | stoned | !paster me |
| 14:34.41 | dpkg | stoned: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 14:34.51 | hitheremate | hello, i seem to have a problem (i'm currently in a grml live environment as i can't boot into my etch system) : I lvextend/lvreduce'd my /var, /usr, and /tmp logical volumes while they were mounted. Now, upon reboot, the system complains about incorrect sizes for each. I was under the impression that I was allowed to change the sizes while they were mounted and active. How should i go about fixing the volumes (via fsck or oth |
| 14:35.06 | cahoot | ktwilight: computers are not about need, more about want |
| 14:35.28 | ktwilight | hmm...quite true... |
| 14:35.33 | ktwilight | interesting perspective :) |
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| 14:36.33 | RvGaTe | 503... holy shit |
| 14:36.48 | asg | RvGaTe: used to be in the 800s |
| 14:36.55 | RvGaTe | !! |
| 14:36.55 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 14:37.02 | RvGaTe | !sorry ! |
| 14:37.02 | dpkg | Don't be sorry...but if you ever go against the Debian Family again... |
| 14:37.08 | RvGaTe | arg |
| 14:37.10 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 14:37.10 | stoned | asg, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3149 |
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| 14:37.36 | ktwilight | haha |
| 14:37.43 | stoned | btw, a good thing happened on its own, now my xchat is doing inline spellchecking as I type, I didn't configure it for that |
| 14:37.52 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 14:38.04 | RvGaTe | thats good.. |
| 14:38.09 | stoned | I suppose |
| 14:38.10 | asg | stoned: woah, that's quite a lot. When was the last time you upgraded sid? |
| 14:38.24 | stoned | asg, this box was in my closet for like a few months |
| 14:38.26 | stoned | or more |
| 14:38.30 | stoned | teehehehe |
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| 14:39.14 | asg | stoned: ah, that explains it. At this point, it's very hard to debug what caused it. If you can deal, I'd hang on for a week or so to see if it clears up as new packages come in. |
| 14:39.21 | fasta | stoned: you told me yesterday that nvsound could be installed with m-a, but when I do m-a list, I only see nvidia-kernel-legacy (source package not installed): |
| 14:39.24 | fasta | nvidia-kernel-source (source) installed (V: 1.0.8762-2): |
| 14:39.37 | stoned | fasta, I did |
| 14:39.45 | stoned | fasta, you should know better than to listen to a dumb stoner |
| 14:39.57 | stoned | hell, I don't even remember EVER talking to you |
| 14:40.13 | Flakk | blondie: I am here again. I got over the password probs. However I can not p[rint a simple text file. checking woth 631 shows the diagnosis:"/usr/lib/cups/backend/epson failed" any help? |
| 14:40.38 | stoned | asg, well how about this then... which packages control how gtk2 apps display their fonts |
| 14:41.18 | stoned | asg, looks to me like either gtk2 was not compiled with freetype support, OR, that the antialiasing in gtk2 apps is fucked |
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| 14:41.34 | asg | stoned: could be pango, could be fontconfig, could be defoma, could be the font packages themselves. |
| 14:41.42 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:41.45 | fasta | stoned: <stoned>it is a module assistant, it assists with modules So yes |
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| 14:41.57 | stoned | fasta, hmm, well i'll be damned |
| 14:42.27 | stoned | my fault, I shouldn't be helping people when I'm drunk |
| 14:42.38 | fasta | stoned: fair enough. |
| 14:42.42 | asg | stoned: I can tell you that my sid (updated as of a few hours ago) laptop does not exhibit this problem with gtk apps. Granted, I don't run gnome or kde so one of those might be the issue if you do run them. |
| 14:42.45 | stoned | I was pretty whacky last night man, drunk |
| 14:42.56 | blondie | Flakk: dont know, you might have to ask in a cups channel |
| 14:43.08 | fasta | stoned: do you know the answer now assuming you are not drunk? |
| 14:43.10 | stoned | asg, well, just gtk2 apps show up like this, and with... ohhhhh |
| 14:43.30 | stoned | asg, this only happens with ttf-dejavu serif condensed |
| 14:43.33 | stoned | I think |
| 14:43.49 | asg | stoned: well, I use that in firefox and it's fine so that may not be the problem |
| 14:43.51 | stoned | er.. nm, happeneing to coureir too |
| 14:44.14 | stoned | yeah |
| 14:44.21 | ktwilight | stoned, how do i get the sound working for skype? :/ it's set at /dev/dsp, and that's the only option |
| 14:44.22 | stoned | the only gtk2 apps I use are xchat and firefox |
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| 14:44.40 | stoned | I CAN switch to konversation or better yet irssi, which I actually took the time to reconfigure few days ago |
| 14:44.45 | miL | do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube? |
| 14:44.45 | stoned | but I can't NOT use firefox |
| 14:44.55 | stoned | i need firefox |
| 14:45.13 | stoned | I think i'll wait it out |
| 14:45.24 | stoned | i'll just use monospace for now |
| 14:45.33 | asg | stoned: or bitsream-vera |
| 14:45.37 | asg | *bitstream |
| 14:45.37 | jetscreamer | ff suxorz |
| 14:46.21 | stoned | jetscreamer, and what do you use |
| 14:47.06 | ktwilight | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.35 | stoned | asg, well, how does one configure antialiasing for gtk2 apps |
| 14:47.42 | jetscreamer | mozilla, but i don't surf much anymore |
| 14:47.43 | stoned | without install gnome crap |
| 14:48.12 | jetscreamer | netscape is the tightest looking browser under linux i've seen |
| 14:48.13 | asg | stoned: does switch2 have an option to enable that? |
| 14:48.18 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:48.20 | stoned | let me read |
| 14:48.33 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, could you make a screenshot and post it on the internet? (wondering how your wm looks like) |
| 14:49.05 | stoned | well, man switch2 /anti didn't return shit |
| 14:49.09 | ktwilight | sure RvGaTe, in 5mins :) |
| 14:49.13 | jetscreamer | ktwilight: you might need the alsa-oss-wrapper module... /dev/dps is an oss thing iirc |
| 14:49.15 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, k, thx |
| 14:49.19 | jetscreamer | err dsp |
| 14:49.22 | stoned | asg, nope |
| 14:49.26 | asg | stoned: well, run switch2 and see if there is some advanced option for enabling it |
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| 14:49.52 | fasta | How can I compile a kernel and have nvsound, and the nvidia glx driver automatically setup? I really hate doing the same sequence of actions every time I need a kernel upgrade... |
| 14:50.14 | jetscreamer | it's called make a script |
| 14:50.30 | asg | stoned: hmmm, doesn't look like it. Here's what I've always done and it's available in bob2's font guide (/msg dpkg font guide) |
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| 14:50.43 | jetscreamer | !fuck bob2 |
| 14:50.56 | stoned | whatever happened to bob2 |
| 14:51.01 | ktwilight | i have alsa-oss installed...hmm... |
| 14:51.26 | fasta | jetscreamer: It's not like you write such a script in 5 minutes. This should be solved by the distribution. |
| 14:51.52 | fasta | jetscreamer: (or next time I just don't buy nvidia hardware) |
| 14:52.01 | jetscreamer | fasta: yeh |
| 14:52.25 | jetscreamer | stoned: he became an #ubuntu op, but disappeared from there also |
| 14:52.30 | fasta | jetscreamer: problem is that there are no competitors doing it better. |
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| 14:52.58 | jetscreamer | fasta: you could try to find such a script that is already created |
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| 14:53.20 | stoned | oh nice |
| 14:53.23 | jetscreamer | i know of one for the nvidia-installer, not sure about the other stuff |
| 14:53.25 | stoned | the 'fixed' font looks great |
| 14:53.45 | amphi | stoned: 'fixed' is an alias |
| 14:53.46 | Jemt | Greetz. How do I install MySQLi (the more recent extension supporting MySQL 4.1+ functionality) ? |
| 14:53.59 | stoned | well yes |
| 14:54.04 | stoned | its a gtk1 font |
| 14:54.12 | stoned | gtkfontsel lists the full name/thingy |
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| 14:54.23 | amphi | uhuh |
| 14:54.35 | jetscreamer | muhuha |
| 14:55.14 | fasta | jetscreamer: what nvidia-installer? For glx? Yeah, that's nvidia-oneliner |
| 14:55.38 | jetscreamer | fasta: i mean the binary .run from nvidia |
| 14:55.45 | jelly-home | stoned: gtkfontsel and xfontsel are pretty much the same thing, showing only X fonts. |
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| 14:55.53 | jetscreamer | for video cards... not sure about for forceware |
| 14:56.09 | fasta | jetscreamer: It depends on what it does. Does it parse the nvidia website and automatically downloads the newest driver? |
| 14:56.18 | fasta | jetscreamer: Those are the things that should Just Work. |
| 14:56.28 | RvGaTe | ktwilight, 5minutes past :P |
| 14:56.38 | jetscreamer | yes it does. but it's for the proprietary vid driver afaik |
| 14:56.44 | jetscreamer | not the distro packages |
| 14:57.05 | ktwilight | i know RvGaTe :P just pasting now ;) |
| 14:57.25 | aeronadix | man I learned windows device drivers in a week. Its been years and I can't operate kernel compiles, and modules and stuff |
| 14:57.25 | jetscreamer | my point is there should be one for you somewhere, or you could adapt one. |
| 14:57.45 | jetscreamer | aeronadix: you can't be using make-kpkg then |
| 14:57.52 | fasta | jetscreamer: It's not easily found by Google. I will write one myself while doing it by hand. |
| 14:57.53 | aeronadix | jetscreamer, I did |
| 14:58.22 | ktwilight | hmm...my printscreen button doesn't work :/. |
| 14:58.44 | aeronadix | jetscreamer, I downloaded kernel.org 2.6.16, then I did make menuconfig, and then make-kpkg clean and then make-kpkg --initrd, but it didn't work |
| 14:58.53 | aeronadix | kernel panick when I tried to boot it |
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| 14:59.24 | jetscreamer | aeronadix: don't use initrd unless you need to |
| 14:59.24 | aeronadix | where do I get and put the linux-wlan-ng source? |
| 14:59.40 | jetscreamer | under /usr/src/modules iirc |
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| 14:59.46 | aeronadix | jetscreamer, but I think my grub expects or something |
| 14:59.51 | jetscreamer | but i'm not sure about 3rd party modules |
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| 15:00.10 | jetscreamer | take the initrd directive out of the grub.conf |
| 15:00.30 | aeronadix | linux-wlan-ng is 3rd party? yeah cause I can't apt-get it, but it is listed when I do m-a |
| 15:00.40 | jetscreamer | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:00.43 | aeronadix | jetscreamer, that it? its just one line? |
| 15:00.53 | Jemt | Wow, the description of MySQL in the 'dpkg' bot is really wrong - very outdated |
| 15:01.22 | streuner | dpkg, anti-aliasing is <reply> read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/fix.html |
| 15:01.22 | dpkg | ...but anti-aliasing is already something else... |
| 15:01.32 | streuner | anti-aliasing |
| 15:01.37 | streuner | !anti-aliasing |
| 15:01.37 | dpkg | i guess anti-aliasing is http://www.sawtoothdistortion.com/Articles/Anti-AliasedText.html |
| 15:01.37 | jetscreamer | aeronadix: you 'may' have a problem with the debian automagic grub update stuff... you can lose your changes |
| 15:01.58 | jetscreamer | just don't put the default in the automagic section |
| 15:02.21 | Jemt | How can I add a correct description of MySQL in dpkg ? |
| 15:02.41 | azeem | Jemt: what kind of description? |
| 15:02.41 | ktwilight | RvGaTe, got it |
| 15:02.51 | azeem | and what is wrong with the current one, if there is any |
| 15:02.58 | Jemt | azeem: The description shown when i '/msg dpkg mysql' |
| 15:03.00 | azeem | Jemt: ah |
| 15:03.14 | Jemt | azeem: It is not correct at all. Very out-dated :) |
| 15:03.16 | azeem | Jemt: /msg dpkg no, mysql is [...] |
| 15:03.21 | azeem | try |
| 15:03.23 | azeem | that |
| 15:03.25 | Jemt | azeem: Ah, great. THanks :) |
| 15:03.31 | streuner | dpkg, anti-aliasing is also http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/fix.html |
| 15:03.32 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 15:03.51 | Jemt | azeem: I get : ...but mysql is already something else... |
| 15:04.07 | Jemt | "is also" ? I'll try that |
| 15:04.12 | azeem | that appends |
| 15:04.20 | azeem | dpkg: no, mysql is foo |
| 15:04.20 | dpkg | okay, azeem |
| 15:04.24 | azeem | !mysql |
| 15:04.24 | dpkg | i heard mysql is foo |
| 15:04.44 | azeem | !mysql |
| 15:04.44 | dpkg | hmm... mysql is bar |
| 15:04.45 | aldug | how do I see if I have selinux enabled in debian 3.1? |
| 15:04.55 | azeem | "/msg dpkg no, mysql is bar" |
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| 15:08.07 | jetscreamer | aldug: one way 'might' be lsmod |grep -i selinux , or just lsmod |less |
| 15:08.08 | streuner | aldug: grep -i selinux /boot/config-`uname-r` |
| 15:08.13 | jetscreamer | or that |
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| 15:08.28 | streuner | aldug: grep -i selinux /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 15:08.36 | hitheremate | hi guys, for those of you using lvm, which steps should i take before doing an lvextend or lvreduce? I understand that I'll have to resize the fs first (in this case, ext3) but I'm unsure as to which commands i need to use |
| 15:08.38 | stoned | asg, while selecting some fonts inside switch2, I get this error... (switch2:19139): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097 |
| 15:09.16 | asg | stoned: never seen that before but I don't use gtk enough. Might be helpful to paste it into google and see what pops up. |
| 15:09.31 | asg | hitheremate: parted can be used to resize ext3 filesystems |
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| 15:09.46 | hitheremate | asg: will that potentially require a reboot? |
| 15:10.02 | streuner | aldug: why did you ask at all? |
| 15:10.04 | asg | hitheremate: well, it will require the filesystem in question to be mounted read-only |
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| 15:10.24 | asg | hitheremate: if the fs in question is '/' or some other system partition, you'll probably need to go single-user. |
| 15:11.22 | hitheremate | asg: ok. i'm in a livecd environment atm, so that should be ok |
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| 15:11.29 | asg | hitheremate: yes, that should be fine |
| 15:11.55 | asg | hitheremate: I've generally had good success resizing ext3 filesystems but, as always, be sure to have a current backup of your data just in case. |
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| 15:12.57 | Jemt | Can someone help me install MySQLi (note the 'i') on my Apache2 web-server (with PHP5) |
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| 15:14.23 | streuner | aldug: anyway, just read this http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml |
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| 15:15.20 | bit0 | hi |
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| 15:15.35 | streuner | aldug: "SELinux |
| 15:15.35 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:17.49 | bit0 | is there any joomla packages? |
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| 15:20.50 | streuner | !tell bit0 about search |
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| 15:21.46 | bit0 | streuner, search says "315 days in preparation". :( (last update from april) |
| 15:21.58 | streuner | heh |
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| 15:22.05 | streuner | apt-file update? |
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| 15:22.50 | streuner | for apt-cache just run 'apt-get update' |
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| 15:24.09 | bit0 | streuner, apt-cache search ... no search results (it is in preparation) |
| 15:24.25 | cds | When trying to burn an ISO in k3b, I'm getting this error message: "Could not find growisofs executable" - anyone know what it means? |
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| 15:25.11 | asg | cds: you need to install dvd+rw-tools |
| 15:25.11 | bit0 | cds,install : dvd+rw-tools - DVD+-RW/R tools |
| 15:25.28 | cds | Thanks. |
| 15:25.28 | MatBoy | yep indeed ! |
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| 15:28.38 | cds | Still isn't burning :/ |
| 15:28.50 | cds | It's got to "Writing speed..." - and it does nothing. |
| 15:28.54 | rockstar_ | cds, restart k3b |
| 15:29.15 | cds | Yeah, I have done. |
| 15:29.26 | cds | Ah, it's writing. |
| 15:29.38 | cds | Just really slowly :) |
| 15:29.39 | fourat | is there a 'Ubuntu shipit free service'-like service for debian ? |
| 15:29.57 | cds | fourat: You mean free DVDs sent to you? No. |
| 15:30.09 | fourat | and free CDs ? |
| 15:30.10 | fourat | :) |
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| 15:31.03 | killown | when I try to login root in terminal local user occurs >> No utmp entry. You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" |
| 15:31.18 | killown | anybody help - me |
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| 15:34.29 | rhys | ok this is odd. im added to the "cdrom" group |
| 15:34.33 | miL | do you know if www.goear.com it has something to see with youtube? |
| 15:34.37 | rhys | but it says i cant use the cdrom as my user account? |
| 15:35.08 | azeem | rhys: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:35.11 | dabreegster | rhys: Check the perms on /dev/cdrom (or whatever your device is.) Make sure group can write and group is cdrom |
| 15:35.29 | rhys | right dabreegster |
| 15:35.31 | rhys | second |
| 15:35.42 | dabreegster | rhys: Er, write if you're trying to burn |
| 15:35.51 | rhys | yep. :) |
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| 15:36.34 | rhys | odd. it should be. brw-rw---- |
| 15:36.39 | rhys | thats group readwrite |
| 15:36.57 | rhys | owned by root:cdrom |
| 15:37.24 | dabreegster | Are you sure whatever program you're using is accessing that device file? |
| 15:37.46 | rhys | dab, for a bit i couldnt even mount it as my user. |
| 15:37.52 | rhys | im using CDR toaster |
| 15:38.01 | rhys | ill check |
| 15:38.08 | dabreegster | Have you checked your fstab? |
| 15:38.18 | rhys | dabreegster, that was it |
| 15:38.27 | rhys | why the hell was cdrtoaster set to /dev/sg0 |
| 15:38.31 | rhys | :D |
| 15:38.34 | killown | anybody help - me |
| 15:38.38 | rhys | ty |
| 15:38.40 | killown | when I try to login root in terminal local user occurs >> No utmp entry. You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh" |
| 15:38.52 | dabreegster | You could also do lsof -p `pidof cdrtoaster` to check your sanity in the future. |
| 15:38.56 | killown | I don't have /etc/utemp |
| 15:39.03 | dabreegster | Then again, if it won't open it, that wouldn't help much. |
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| 15:39.10 | rhys | dabreegster, what is that command? |
| 15:39.34 | dabreegster | rhys: lsof -p `pidof processname` will show you open files used by processname |
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| 15:40.01 | rhys | oo. thats usefull. ill remember that |
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| 15:41.00 | rhys | dabreegster, grep -v is damn usefull too, as a pipe |
| 15:41.30 | dabreegster | rhys: Invaluable. |
| 15:42.42 | rhys | ... |
| 15:42.50 | rhys | cdr toaster isnt for data cds is it? |
| 15:43.36 | dabreegster | Dunno. It seems to be called crdbq now in testing, by the way. |
| 15:43.47 | rhys | is there a front end to cdrecord that will burn data? i dont want to look up the cmd line options . |
| 15:43.57 | dabreegster | Er, cdrbq |
| 15:44.07 | dabreegster | arson is pretty nice. |
| 15:44.40 | dabreegster | You could read the command log of arson to learn how it uses cdrecord; it's not that difficult. |
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| 15:45.52 | rhys | dabreegster, apt-get install arson from my repo downstairs. :D ty |
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| 15:58.34 | killown | wget freeze in download 100 % completed why? |
| 15:59.00 | RvGaTe | LOL |
| 15:59.06 | RvGaTe | if you have nothing to do: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl |
| 15:59.17 | RvGaTe | you can watch starwars in ascii art |
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| 15:59.28 | RvGaTe | src: http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/ascii_star_wars_delivered_via_telnet_08161245/ |
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| 16:01.02 | torch|FLCL | ...oh my god! |
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| 16:02.04 | RvGaTe | torch|starwars4, sick huh ? |
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| 16:05.00 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: the world cup in ascii was arguably more interesting |
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| 16:06.34 | RvGaTe | jelly-home, they put it on the air using ascii ? :P |
| 16:07.57 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: yep. |
| 16:08.07 | RvGaTe | where? |
| 16:08.32 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: I don't remember the link, and it's over now anyway. |
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| 16:09.40 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: it was at telnet ascii-wm.net 2006 |
| 16:11.08 | RvGaTe | jelly-home, any idea what's on there right now ? |
| 16:11.25 | jelly-home | RvGaTe: nope |
| 16:15.16 | RvGaTe | jelly-home, looks like football |
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| 16:19.38 | FaTaL_X | HI ALL |
| 16:19.54 | FaTaL_X | I HAVE A PROGLEM FOR DEBIAN |
| 16:20.12 | section31 | anyone know what ports i need to open for me to get samba working with my windows machine |
| 16:20.19 | HelmutG | FaTaL_X: Is there a reason to announce that in capitcals? |
| 16:20.22 | sigma957 | FaTaL_X lose the caps please |
| 16:21.09 | dabreegster | Maybe he logged into getty with all caps. |
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| 16:23.38 | Jemt | section31: 137-139 445 |
| 16:23.52 | section31 | Jemt, all tcp |
| 16:23.53 | section31 | ? |
| 16:24.06 | Jemt | section31: As far as I remember, yes |
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| 16:28.19 | section31 | Jemt, worked...one more thing, am i gay because i'm using apf as the frontend for iptables |
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| 16:28.46 | A4Tech | hey all. When I try to run KPPP, it says "Cannot connect to X server"....what do I do ? |
| 16:28.53 | Jemt | section31: Checkout Firestarter. Great firewall tool |
| 16:29.08 | section31 | i'll look into it |
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| 16:29.10 | section31 | never heard of it |
| 16:29.23 | Jemt | section31: I don't know APF - but I'm pretty sure it dosn't make you gay ;) |
| 16:29.44 | A4Tech | Anyone? |
| 16:31.03 | A4Tech | ... |
| 16:31.11 | section31 | A4Tech, don't know |
| 16:31.12 | section31 | sorry |
| 16:31.12 | Jemt | A4Tech: Take it easy.. |
| 16:31.27 | A4Tech | oops sorry :) |
| 16:31.40 | azeem | A4Tech: do you run a graphical desktop? |
| 16:31.45 | A4Tech | yes |
| 16:31.55 | azeem | do you run kppp as root? |
| 16:32.08 | A4Tech | yup |
| 16:32.28 | azeem | your desktop might not allow graphical root applications |
| 16:32.43 | azeem | A4Tech: did you login as root? |
| 16:32.51 | A4Tech | some time back i tried some command like set DISPLAY:=0 |
| 16:32.54 | A4Tech | or something like that |
| 16:33.01 | A4Tech | no, i logged in using a normal user |
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| 16:34.08 | A4Tech | it says permission denied as normal user and cannot connect to x server as root |
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| 16:37.30 | A4Tech | :/ |
| 16:37.44 | A4Tech | Why is this channel so calm? |
| 16:38.01 | zinx | because the real one is on oftc now |
| 16:38.20 | A4Tech | oh |
| 16:38.20 | A4Tech | :P |
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| 16:43.51 | Ronin | zinx: wouldnt say real one, more official perhaps |
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| 16:52.57 | smagy2 | hello folks, a quick question about kernel source package give by debian. i was looking at the dist pool for a stable kernel source . however there is a package that says patches. the question is have the pactches already been applied and this package is only a collection of the patches or the patches have to be applied. i am refering to this pool http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.8/ |
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| 16:59.25 | mahyar | How do you find out what processes are reserving a file? |
| 16:59.41 | zinx | reserving? |
| 16:59.56 | sleon_ | mahyar: lsof |
| 16:59.57 | mahyar | using a file |
| 17:00.07 | sleon_ | mahyar: or fuser |
| 17:00.08 | blondie | what sleon_ said |
| 17:00.16 | zinx | ja |
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| 17:00.38 | sleon_ | are there already new kernel packages for newly descovered proc local exploit? |
| 17:00.47 | sleon_ | (2.6.17.5) |
| 17:01.21 | sleon_ | s/for/newly discovered/ |
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| 17:02.41 | cahoot | sleon_: and for the fix of the patch? |
| 17:03.34 | sleon_ | cahoot fix of the patch? i heard that 2.6.17.5 fixes the racecondition |
| 17:03.37 | sleon_ | or 2.16.25 |
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| 17:04.04 | cahoot | sleon_: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/15/62 |
| 17:04.04 | goon | hi, is still etch planned for december 2006? |
| 17:04.23 | lunitik | goon: planned for, yes... |
| 17:04.38 | goon | lunitik: are they on time? |
| 17:04.48 | goon | as of now I mean ;) |
| 17:05.06 | sleon_ | cahoot: ouch |
| 17:05.19 | lunitik | goon: no idea... I've seen nothing that says they're behind though... |
| 17:06.19 | papak | hey guys, any ideas why my modules keep failing when i try to compile them. heres the error that i get (its not the complete message but the important part). The thing is,Module.symver is in the kernel src tree. |
| 17:07.28 | papak | oops error message is Module.symvers is missing; |
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| 17:12.54 | flogiston | What secure easy ftpserver do you guys recommend? |
| 17:13.03 | zinx | hahaha |
| 17:13.05 | zinx | you made a funny |
| 17:13.27 | zinx | secure, easy, ftp server... pick one |
| 17:14.23 | pihhan | what features do you need from ftp? |
| 17:14.28 | flogiston | A ftpserver that is easy to set up and secure to run. |
| 17:14.34 | pihhan | vsftp is my favorite |
| 17:15.20 | pihhan | anonymous, user login, other than system user database, chroot? |
| 17:15.52 | pihhan | depends of what do you want with it |
| 17:16.00 | flogiston | User login. |
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| 17:16.23 | flogiston | Just a privat ftp. |
| 17:16.37 | threw | hi all ! |
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| 17:17.00 | threw | where is located the X log file please ? (i use Xorg 7.0) |
| 17:18.04 | streuner | /var/log/ |
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| 17:18.25 | Jemt | threw: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:19.05 | threw | erf erf erf in Xorg.0.log it says that i should read "X log file" :$ |
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| 17:25.28 | threw | well im trying to use NVIDIA proprietary driver fo kernel 2.6.17... but CLX extension dont work..... when i try to launch Opengl app, i have: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"..... this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log : ! so it couldnt load GLX, because if i good understood, he cannot load GLCORE ! (i have commented dri and glcore line in my xorg.conf) can anyone help me please ? |
| 17:25.34 | threw | ops |
| 17:26.43 | threw | my Xorg.0.log is here : http://fr.pastebin.ca/raw/89010 |
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| 17:27.55 | threw | and my xorg.conf file is here: http://fr.pastebin.ca/raw/89011 |
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| 17:31.32 | threw | anyone has an idea please ? |
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| 17:40.31 | threw | ? |
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| 17:41.08 | kepht | threw: you need to correct things for xorg7 |
| 17:42.04 | kepht | see the http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 for starters ..also need to reinstall the nvidia driver and tell it correct paths |
| 17:42.20 | kepht | and your xorg.conf has to be redone |
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| 17:50.25 | threw | kepht: well i think that the path are correct: if you look "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/" string in xorg.0.log ( http://fr.pastebin.ca/raw/89010 ) it seems that modules are located in these paths no ? |
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| 18:01.37 | rhys | anyone know how to turn on the numlock key at boot? |
| 18:02.05 | jelly-home | rhys: it can be usually done in bios |
| 18:03.10 | rhys | jelly-home. i thought i have the bios bit enabled |
| 18:05.21 | rhys | dear god. im working on windows 98. :( |
| 18:06.25 | lunitik | rhys: there is numlockx ... but thats to enable it in X |
| 18:06.32 | lunitik | rhys: likely all you need though |
| 18:07.11 | rhys | lunitik, i use console fair enough. but X would do well. |
| 18:07.20 | rhys | one more thing i will have to get around to eventually |
| 18:07.26 | rhys | ever heard of imwheel?: |
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| 18:07.36 | lunitik | rhys: yes |
| 18:08.04 | lunitik | rhys: its in the archive too... |
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| 18:08.19 | wwallace_lap | !kernel |
| 18:08.21 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.5, prepatch: 2.6.18-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.18-rc1-git9, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-rc1-mm2 |
| 18:08.34 | lunitik | wwallace_lap: /msg the bots!!! |
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| 18:08.51 | lunitik | (unless you are showing someone something... then !tell foo about bar) |
| 18:10.03 | eSa|off | hi, I'm willing to try Con Kolivas patchset to my running kernel. Is it possible to apply it to the linux sources package from the official repositories? |
| 18:10.30 | rhys | yep. but i had wondered for a long while how to get my foward and back buttons my logitech working. i think someone was searching for the same thing. and i just kinda stumbled upon imwheel in synaptic. i ill figurte it out later |
| 18:11.26 | dabreegster | rhys: I've been trying to think of the program to do that for a few minutes, now I've got it: setleds! |
| 18:11.48 | blondie | when's that bug in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg going to be fixed x.x |
| 18:12.03 | rhys | goddamnit. im working on the biggest POS. :\ dell running windows 98, with a pullout tray for the PCI/ISA bus...i think that whole tray is borked. :\ |
| 18:12.25 | rhys | setleds |
| 18:12.31 | rhys | hmmmdedum. |
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| 18:13.52 | blondie | the bloody thing doesn't complain about xorg.conf being customised, nor does it modify it |
| 18:14.00 | blondie | it complains about /etc/X11/X |
| 18:14.52 | dabreegster | rhys: setleds +num should do it |
| 18:15.43 | rhys | KDGETLED: Invalid argument |
| 18:15.43 | rhys | Error reading current led setting. Maybe stdin is not a VT? |
| 18:15.49 | rhys | ? |
| 18:16.12 | rhys | whats a VT? |
| 18:16.29 | blondie | virtual terminal |
| 18:16.32 | drasko | Hi all. I have trouble with compiling simple "Hello World" module from the Linux Device Drivers book. Can anyone please take a look at: http://pastebin.ca/89039? |
| 18:16.42 | dabreegster | rhys: Are you in screen or a pty? |
| 18:16.47 | blondie | rhys: you might need to do it from the console |
| 18:16.48 | blondie | dunno |
| 18:17.19 | rhys | meaning it doesnt like terminal emulators. |
| 18:17.29 | dabreegster | Correct. |
| 18:18.03 | rhys | GRRR. POS. i HATE win98. worst OS in the history of the world. |
| 18:19.18 | rhys | oo. found a scrap of code on linux forums |
| 18:19.54 | rhys | setleds is right dabreegster, but you have to output it to a /dev/tty |
| 18:20.11 | zinx | uhm |
| 18:20.13 | zinx | xset led |
| 18:20.17 | dabreegster | rhys: Ah, cool |
| 18:20.37 | rhys | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/17053-keyboard-numlock-always-off-startup.html |
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| 18:21.56 | rhys | this is more curiosity, but are their startup scripts when you log in? terminal or X? |
| 18:22.03 | rhys | i know for x there is .xinitrc |
| 18:22.16 | orge | what's gonna happen if you: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda ? |
| 18:22.39 | dabreegster | rhys: Yes. In testing it changed to console-setup. But check out /etc/init.d/*con* stuff |
| 18:22.41 | zinx | toggling the LED isn't going to turn on/off numlock |
| 18:22.42 | blondie | orge: you'll fuck your system up I guess |
| 18:22.43 | dabreegster | orge: Don't. |
| 18:22.46 | jelly-home | orge: something bad |
| 18:23.09 | rhys | zinx, no? |
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| 18:25.12 | rhys | actually zinx, yes it does |
| 18:25.17 | rhys | just tested it |
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| 18:25.30 | dabreegster | zinx: There's an option to make it just set the LED and not the behavior |
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| 18:26.29 | zinx | dabreegster: ah |
| 18:26.38 | zinx | rhys: sorry, i assumed setleds only set the LED |
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| 18:27.07 | rhys | zinx, i wouldve guessed the same, but it was the solution on linuxforums as well. and a little test does well |
| 18:27.10 | rhys | :D |
| 18:27.25 | rhys | now...as for this shitty dell with the shitty win98.. |
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| 18:27.37 | rhys | its just...shitty. even the plastic smells |
| 18:28.02 | zinx | :/ |
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| 18:32.19 | AxY | sry how can i get a bin file run (java ee sdk installer)? |
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| 18:32.39 | rhys | ayx, is it executable? |
| 18:32.48 | zinx | AxY: erh, use java-package for that |
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| 18:33.35 | someguy | i'm trying to get debian installed from the hard disk (without install media). i read the docs and they say i need the files "hd-media/initrd.gz" and "hd-media/vmlinuz" in the the top-level directory of the hard disk. i understand that and how to do it, but i can't find those files anywhere. can anyone help me out? |
| 18:33.54 | AxY | i can't find it on apt-get so i've downloaded java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin |
| 18:34.28 | zinx | AxY: Right. use java-package with the .bin you downloaded. |
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| 18:34.52 | AxY | k i'll try thx |
| 18:35.04 | zinx | otherwise you are going to end up with a very non-debian install of java |
| 18:35.10 | someguy | btw, i know my way around the console and understand the basics, but i heard debian is for much more "advanced" users. should i try a different distro? |
| 18:35.32 | Ronin | someguy: not at all |
| 18:35.41 | zinx | someguy: it's for more advanced users than ubuntu is for |
| 18:35.47 | someguy | ok. what about those files: ^^^ |
| 18:35.59 | lunitik | zinx: sun-java5-jre (and -plugin) still not in etch? |
| 18:36.04 | zinx | someguy: generally, people install with the media :/ |
| 18:36.33 | someguy | i know. and i've done that several times. but i'm doing it wothout media this time. |
| 18:36.35 | zinx | lunitik: dunno. don't care. a package made with java-package is more-or-less as good, and works even if it's not in the repository |
| 18:36.53 | MetaPhaze | how do i install the kernel sources? what package is it in? |
| 18:36.55 | zinx | lunitik: it's in unstable though |
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| 18:37.07 | pabs3 | lunitik: 3 days: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sun-java5.html |
| 18:37.18 | lunitik | someguy: Debian isn't difficult, far from it... it just expects you to know a little something ... and puts you in more control ... |
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| 18:37.33 | lunitik | zinx: I know its in Sid ;) |
| 18:37.44 | wut | debian is a lot harder to learn than slackware |
| 18:37.56 | zinx | wut: what? |
| 18:38.03 | zinx | that's crazy talk |
| 18:38.32 | Ronin | wut:heh |
| 18:38.50 | MetaPhaze | anyone? ^^ |
| 18:39.02 | zinx | MetaPhaze: linux-source-* |
| 18:39.11 | lunitik | wut: huh? Slack doesn't even try to assist you with hardware, and comes with crap package management... |
| 18:39.27 | zinx | MetaPhaze: or kernel-source-* depending on your release |
| 18:39.55 | MetaPhaze | i just downloaded this... i can't find either of those |
| 18:40.07 | zinx | MetaPhaze: or if you want the headers, not the source for compiling a kernel, linux-headers-* or kernel-headers-* |
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| 18:40.17 | wut | lunitik, true but it's easier to get install/setup |
| 18:40.27 | zinx | MetaPhaze: they're there. apt-cache search for what versions are available |
| 18:40.29 | MetaPhaze | zinx i want the actual source |
| 18:40.50 | lunitik | wut: if you're on a slow net connection... perhaps? |
| 18:41.21 | MetaPhaze | zinx search came up blank |
| 18:41.46 | zinx | MetaPhaze: then you either didn't search for the right thing, only have cdrom sources (and not enough of them), or you aren't using debian |
| 18:42.16 | MetaPhaze | zinx i have the first cd and tried apt-cache search linux-source-* |
| 18:42.29 | zinx | MetaPhaze: if you're using sarge, then it's kernel-source- |
| 18:42.36 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: in sarge... you want kernel-source |
| 18:43.15 | MetaPhaze | how do i know what i'm using? how do i tell if it's sarge? sorry i don't normally use debian... i'm a gentoo man... but this laptop is too slow for gentoo compiles |
| 18:43.28 | zinx | MetaPhaze: Why not just search for kernel-source? |
| 18:43.34 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:43.42 | zinx | MetaPhaze: if it's there, then it's what you use |
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| 18:43.59 | wut | cat /etc/debian_version brings up a numer: 3.1 |
| 18:43.59 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: if you haven't changed /etc/apt/sources.list ... you're using sarge though |
| 18:44.09 | lunitik | wut: which would be sarge |
| 18:44.36 | MetaPhaze | cat /etc/debian_version shows 3.1 |
| 18:44.42 | lunitik | wut: here it returns: testing/unstable |
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| 18:44.54 | orge | !gentoo |
| 18:44.54 | dpkg | well, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 18:45.07 | lunitik | !apt-gentoo |
| 18:45.07 | dpkg | apt-gentoo is a way of simulating the waste of time that is gentoo on your Debian system. Experience the thrill of compiling your own apps from source without actually bothering to compile them! Download it from http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/apt-gentoo/ Announcement at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02502.html |
| 18:45.31 | MetaPhaze | orge lunitik i admin 15 gentoo systems including servers :D |
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| 18:45.48 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: have fun with that |
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| 18:46.04 | zinx | apt-gentoo is genius |
| 18:46.11 | MetaPhaze | i love gentoo |
| 18:46.19 | MetaPhaze | just not on a p2 with 128 megs |
| 18:46.29 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: so basically, you are paid to twiddle your thumbs waiting on things? |
| 18:46.36 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: fun job... not so much |
| 18:46.42 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, distcc |
| 18:46.58 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: still takes forever... just not as long as it could |
| 18:47.07 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, and you can make packages with gentoo from one system and stage 4 any other systems from it |
| 18:47.16 | drasko | hi all... What packges do I need to compile my own kernel modules? Jut hernel headers? Something else? |
| 18:47.24 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: this isn't #gentoo |
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| 18:47.31 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, you asked |
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| 18:47.44 | someguy | ok. quick question. lilo or grub? |
| 18:47.47 | lunitik | drasko: I'd advise kernel-package |
| 18:47.49 | MetaPhaze | grub |
| 18:47.50 | wut | grub |
| 18:47.59 | someguy | grub it is |
| 18:48.47 | MetaPhaze | hmm what cd do i need for kernel-source-*? |
| 18:49.02 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: no decent net connection? |
| 18:49.29 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, i have to use ndiswrapper and winblows drivers for my wireless card (realtek crap) |
| 18:49.56 | wut | CD set is complicated :/ |
| 18:50.29 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, in order to compile ndiswrapper (since i don't see it in the package manager) i need the kernel sources |
| 18:50.33 | drasko | lunitik, what's that? |
| 18:51.27 | wut | did you try looking for it with aptitude? |
| 18:51.30 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: go to your Winblows box... ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/k/kernel-source (probably) |
| 18:51.46 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, i don't use winblows at all but thanks for the link |
| 18:51.54 | pabs3 | MetaPhaze: you only need the headers, not the full source |
| 18:52.09 | MetaPhaze | pabs3, i installed the headers... that didn't work |
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| 18:52.27 | pabs3 | really? I installed it earlier without the source |
| 18:52.36 | pabs3 | this is sid tho |
| 18:52.42 | zapbb | hotplug doesn't find my ESS1689 soundcard... |
| 18:52.47 | zapbb | what can I do? |
| 18:53.01 | MetaPhaze | pabs3, you installed ndiswrapper from source? |
| 18:53.22 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.8 even |
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| 18:53.28 | zapbb | Will a tool like sndconfig help me? |
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| 18:53.40 | pabs3 | MetaPhaze: I used the commands in /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 18:53.41 | MetaPhaze | debian is still at 2.6.8? |
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| 18:54.08 | lunitik | pabs3: CD set... easier to just grab it online... |
| 18:54.13 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: Sarge is, yes |
| 18:54.20 | lunitik | Sarge is 18 months old |
| 18:54.28 | pabs3 | zapbb: you could try pasting your lspci -n output into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (says what drivers) |
| 18:54.43 | wut | what's the command to get the bot to tell me about dist-upgrade? |
| 18:54.45 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: if you just hit enter at install... you probably have 2.4.x (uname -r) |
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| 18:55.01 | someguy | has anyone ever installed debian from the hard drive? |
| 18:55.02 | lunitik | !tell wut about sarge->etch |
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| 18:55.36 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, no 2.6.8... but in gentoo i use 2.6.16-r12 |
| 18:55.42 | drasko | how to see which packages are suggested for installaton when you chose some package? |
| 18:55.48 | zinx | MetaPhaze: uhm, ndiswrapper is packaged for debian |
| 18:55.54 | zapbb | pabs3: I think it's an ISA card. |
| 18:55.55 | zinx | MetaPhaze: the one in sarge is probably out of date though |
| 18:55.55 | MetaPhaze | zinx got a link? |
| 18:56.04 | zinx | MetaPhaze: "apt-get install ndiswrapper" |
| 18:56.16 | kozmic | how do i password protect my cgi-bin directory? I tried setting up a .htaccess and .htpasswd in /usr/lib/cgi-bin, but its like its not read. where do i need to put it? |
| 18:56.20 | zinx | MetaPhaze: like i said though, it's probably out of date |
| 18:56.40 | zinx | MetaPhaze: if you want to compile a newer version yourself, you only need the headers |
| 18:56.40 | MetaPhaze | zinx, couldn't find package ndiswrapper |
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| 18:56.53 | zinx | !info ndiswrapper stable |
| 18:57.01 | zinx | hmm |
| 18:57.10 | zinx | oh |
| 18:57.13 | zinx | !info ndiswrapper-utils stable |
| 18:57.17 | dpkg | ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 120 kB |
| 18:57.32 | zinx | !info ndiswrapper-source stable |
| 18:57.37 | dpkg | ndiswrapper-source: (Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 103 kB, Installed size: 152 kB |
| 18:57.46 | zinx | i really hope that's not really 1.1 :) |
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| 18:57.49 | zinx | but it probably is |
| 18:57.52 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: cool... Sid has 2.6.17 :/ |
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| 18:58.21 | zinx | MetaPhaze: you can install the -source packages with m-a a-i prefix (like: m-a a-i ndiswrapper) |
| 18:58.31 | zinx | MetaPhaze: you'll need module-assistant for that |
| 18:58.37 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, cool that means on my next sync i get to compile another kernel... thank god for distcc |
| 18:58.49 | zinx | MetaPhaze: but for ndiswrapper, i'm actually going to suggest getting a recent release |
| 18:58.49 | fasta | make-kpkg gives me errors when I execute it in a top-level linux kernel source tree: http://pastebin.ca/89072 Could you have a look? |
| 18:59.02 | someguy | is it possible to get linux installed without "install media"? |
| 18:59.03 | zinx | MetaPhaze: and grabbing the proper kernel-headers package for your running kernel |
| 18:59.23 | MetaPhaze | zinx where can i get .deb packages on the net... say for ndiswrapper |
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| 18:59.26 | fasta | Also, kernel-package has 11(!!!) grave bugs in the bug tracking system. |
| 18:59.27 | wut | lunitik, after dist-upgrade it ignored a few things "Err http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://www.bckports.org etch-backports/main Release" |
| 18:59.52 | lunitik | wut: remove the backports line... |
| 19:00.20 | zinx | MetaPhaze: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallDebianSarge |
| 19:00.22 | lunitik | wut: backports.org provides some etch packages for sarge |
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| 19:01.05 | wut | ok |
| 19:01.06 | zinx | MetaPhaze: see also http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallDebian |
| 19:01.17 | zinx | MetaPhaze: but you'll want that line in sources.list probably |
| 19:01.40 | zinx | MetaPhaze: Hah, nevermind, their wiki is out of date.. doesn't exist |
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| 19:01.56 | MetaPhaze | zinx, i just want to install it... until i do i have no network |
| 19:02.29 | zinx | MetaPhaze: ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net has the tarball |
| 19:02.31 | MetaPhaze | can i pull non debian sources in and put them in /usr/src and make a symlink linux to them and compile that way? |
| 19:02.46 | zinx | MetaPhaze: grab the kernel headers package and compile it via 'make' |
| 19:02.52 | fasta | MetaPhaze: That's what I am doing. |
| 19:02.59 | manopulus | hello, due to some problem i can only to install debian woody at my laptop. how to upgrade to testing - i ask especially about kernel and initrd - since now i get black screen or i get kernel panic |
| 19:03.08 | zinx | MetaPhaze: you don't need to.. it uses /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build |
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| 19:03.11 | keram | hello |
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| 19:03.15 | zinx | MetaPhaze: which links to the kernel headers package |
| 19:03.17 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: why not just get the packages from a mirror from another box, throw them on a cd... and use that? |
| 19:03.20 | zinx | MetaPhaze: assuming you have it installed. |
| 19:03.24 | keram | how do i install gimp when i'm running with sid? |
| 19:03.30 | fasta | I am not using the kernel-package because it's _way_ to buggy to use. |
| 19:03.33 | wut | apt-get install gimp? |
| 19:03.39 | zinx | fasta: uhm, whatever |
| 19:03.53 | fasta | zinx: did you have a look at my paste? |
| 19:03.59 | zinx | fasta: worksforme |
| 19:03.59 | MetaPhaze | zinx i have the headers installed ndiswrapper is telling me that /build doesn't exist |
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| 19:04.09 | fasta | zinx: And what version have you installed.....? |
| 19:04.11 | zinx | also, you can use the distro kernel :P~ |
| 19:04.25 | zinx | MetaPhaze: are you using a distro kernel or your own? |
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| 19:04.44 | fasta | zinx: It's so easy to say "works for me" (when you probably didn't look into BTS). |
| 19:04.45 | MetaPhaze | zinx, i am using the kernel that came with cd1 |
| 19:04.57 | keram | aptitude install gimp doesnt work |
| 19:04.59 | MetaPhaze | zinx, and headers i installed with apt |
| 19:04.59 | fasta | zinx: Then say *nothing*. |
| 19:05.04 | zinx | MetaPhaze: and you installed the kernel-headers package for that specific kernel? |
| 19:05.09 | keram | it says unresolvable dependencies |
| 19:05.31 | zinx | fasta: if it broke in a new version, downgrade |
| 19:05.33 | wut | keram, apt-get install gimp |
| 19:05.36 | lunitik | fasta: did you actually read the bugs? most of the time, they're either for exotic arch's or for other versions of Debian |
| 19:05.42 | MetaPhaze | zinx, unfortunatly debian didn't put 2.6 kernel headers on cd1 |
| 19:05.44 | keram | whats the difference? |
| 19:05.48 | wut | try it |
| 19:05.56 | zinx | MetaPhaze: yeah, you're going to have to get it on that box somehow |
| 19:05.59 | MetaPhaze | zinx, only 2.4.27 |
| 19:06.37 | fasta | lunitik: I saw that I experienced a bug when I did something which should work. (namely make-kpkg --initrd) |
| 19:06.38 | wut | keram, if it says it can't because you need stuff, apt-get install that stuff |
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| 19:06.48 | zinx | MetaPhaze: the .debs are available on any mirror |
| 19:06.58 | zinx | MetaPhaze: ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/ or such |
| 19:07.29 | lunitik | keram: if you don't know how to delve deeper into things in Sid, and can't handle breakages, I recommend Etch... |
| 19:07.46 | lunitik | keram: which is still at least as up to date as Ubuntu... |
| 19:07.47 | keram | well heres the output of a few things |
| 19:07.55 | keram | http://rafb.net/paste/results/lwpIWZ85.html |
| 19:07.55 | wut | don't post it here |
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| 19:09.16 | lunitik | keram: apt-cache show gimp-data ... different version? probably ... again, why are you using Sid? |
| 19:10.04 | rockstar_ | Wow! Doing an etch netinst, and it installs popcon automatically. Cool. |
| 19:10.17 | liran1 | yeap |
| 19:10.24 | lunitik | rockstar_: Sarge installed it by default too |
| 19:10.33 | rockstar_ | lunitik, Didn |
| 19:10.34 | wut | yep |
| 19:10.35 | keram | http://rafb.net/paste/results/vdUQFu92.html |
| 19:10.38 | rockstar_ | 't ask me then... |
| 19:10.50 | rockstar_ | *grumble* Shouldn't rat on me without asking me first... |
| 19:11.23 | wut | upgrading from sarge-etch only takes half an hour |
| 19:11.24 | wut | woo |
| 19:11.45 | MetaPhaze | zinx, thanks man.. got the debs... now to put on my usb stick and see if they work... |
| 19:11.47 | lunitik | keram: yeah, uhh... 2.2.12-1 is not 2.2.11-3 is it? |
| 19:12.09 | keram | no i guess not |
| 19:12.19 | keram | how do i get the one i need? |
| 19:12.53 | lunitik | keram: you install etch, or you modify the deps... or you wait for the maintainers to change the dep |
| 19:13.25 | lunitik | keram: I recommend etch, as you really don't seem like someone that should be using Sid |
| 19:14.54 | lunitik | keram: as I stated, Etch is still more up to date than Ubuntu Dapper (which you previously used, seen you in #ubuntu) |
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| 19:15.46 | lunitik | keram: and it doesn't even have a crippled cups *g* |
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| 19:16.04 | keram | ummk |
| 19:16.07 | keram | i'll think about doign that i guess |
| 19:16.12 | keram | i'll research it more |
| 19:16.36 | lunitik | keram: you certainly shouldn't be using Sid |
| 19:16.47 | jones- | Hi. Is there a specific channel for debian/ppc or is it ok to ask here? |
| 19:17.01 | lunitik | jones-: /j #debianppc |
| 19:17.06 | jones- | lunitik: thanks. |
| 19:17.54 | lunitik | jones-: its likely ok to ask here... unless its definitely specific to ppc |
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| 19:18.16 | jones- | lunitik: yes, it's specific: some troubles using Airport card on an iBook. |
| 19:18.45 | keram | whats wrong with sid? |
| 19:19.23 | lunitik | keram: its the devel branch... and you came here complaining about something that happens fairly regularly in Sid |
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| 19:20.10 | lunitik | keram: instead of taking it to bts etc, which is the correct and expected course of action |
| 19:20.11 | DocOC_ | keram: sid should be used by debian veterans, because it is the unstable branch, and sometimes packages are not fully vetted, thus you need to be able to fix problems caused by packages that are not perfect. |
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| 19:21.03 | Tallu | Hmm, I installed debian sarge r2 and it came with the kernel 2.4, didnt realize to use the 26 option, its an old computer, pentium II.. what would be the best way to upgrade the kernel without breaking the already made system configurations? |
| 19:21.32 | lunitik | Tallu: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-yourarch |
| 19:22.25 | Tallu | lunitik: cheers :) |
| 19:22.45 | lunitik | !tell Tallu about 2.6.16 sarge |
| 19:22.53 | lunitik | Tallu: thats likely a better option though |
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| 19:23.32 | lunitik | Tallu: (note: the meta package is broken in that factoid ... use the explicit kernel version... |
| 19:23.34 | lunitik | ) |
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| 19:24.08 | lunitik | Tallu: (so install the package it says it can't install instead of kernel-image-2.6-$ARCH |
| 19:24.19 | seeds | my kernel is 2.6.8-386 how to upgrade to 2.6.16 sarge? |
| 19:24.41 | lunitik | seeds: /msg dpkg 2.6.16 sarge |
| 19:24.47 | seeds | k |
| 19:24.55 | keram | ic |
| 19:24.56 | MetaPhaze | zinx, this isn't working |
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| 19:25.05 | lunitik | !doesn't work |
| 19:25.05 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:25.08 | MetaPhaze | zinx, some kind of dependancy problem |
| 19:25.20 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, don't talk to me please |
| 19:25.49 | zinx | MetaPhaze: doing what? |
| 19:25.50 | MetaPhaze | !doesn't work |
| 19:25.50 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 19:26.31 | MetaPhaze | zinx, ndiswrapper-utils depends on ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 however package ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 is not installed |
| 19:26.51 | lunitik | Install it then |
| 19:26.56 | zinx | MetaPhaze: are you installing ndiswrapper from source or via the .debs? |
| 19:27.10 | MetaPhaze | zinx, i installed ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4_i386.deb |
| 19:27.48 | MetaPhaze | zinx, i even tried the ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-5_all.deb |
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| 19:28.12 | MetaPhaze | zinx, there is no flat ndiswrapper-utils_1.1.deb on that site |
| 19:28.25 | lunitik | Tallu: seeds: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 ... my bad |
| 19:28.43 | MetaPhaze | zinx, in slackware i would just install a tar.gz or tgz file does apt handle .tar.gz/ |
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| 19:28.45 | MetaPhaze | ? |
| 19:29.04 | seeds | ok lunitik |
| 19:29.09 | zinx | MetaPhaze: like i said, 1.1 is way way old |
| 19:29.16 | nceterbal | What's the best way to get Xandros-style transparent home directory encription on Debian? |
| 19:29.20 | zinx | MetaPhaze: i don't usually do this, but i'm recommending you use ndiswrapper from source |
| 19:29.22 | MetaPhaze | zinx, yeah but it needs it |
| 19:29.28 | MetaPhaze | zinx, ok |
| 19:29.43 | zinx | MetaPhaze: and uninstall the ndiswrapper 1.1 packages (-utils, -source, -whatever) |
| 19:30.18 | aredhel | ndiswrapper-utils is a dummy package for tansistional purposes. |
| 19:30.28 | MetaPhaze | zinx, ya... no doubt... this is why i hate package distro's... debian has my respect because gentoo came from it |
| 19:30.53 | xored | how to search for a string in files in a dir ? |
| 19:31.04 | lunitik | aredhel: you're not using Sarge huh? |
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| 19:31.19 | aredhel | ah right, sorry |
| 19:31.43 | lunitik | aredhel: usually, transitional packages are for people transitioning from sarge ;) |
| 19:32.12 | lunitik | aredhel: to remedy dist-upgrade issues |
| 19:32.17 | zinx | MetaPhaze: usually packages aren't so buggy/touchy that they need to be the absolute latest version |
| 19:32.35 | aredhel | lunitik, or from woody. I have too many xterms open on too many diffrent versions of debian. |
| 19:32.54 | zinx | MetaPhaze: but emulators are different, and debian makes no exceptions for them |
| 19:32.57 | stew | xored: fgrep string dir/* |
| 19:32.58 | MetaPhaze | zinx, it's kind of wierd having to worry about dependancies again |
| 19:33.12 | zinx | MetaPhaze: you don't have to worry about dependencies if you use apt-get |
| 19:33.13 | xored | stew: thank you. Evet used dtc ? |
| 19:33.21 | stew | MetaPhaze: what are you trying to do? you shouldn't really have to worry about dependencies |
| 19:33.26 | zinx | MetaPhaze: i.e., you have the packages actually available, and aren't just manually installing the .debs |
| 19:33.39 | liran1 | the first 512 bytes of /dev/sda contains he mbr or the partition table? (or both?) |
| 19:33.40 | lunitik | stew: install ndiswrapper on sarge ;) |
| 19:33.44 | zinx | MetaPhaze: if you're fetching them manually, you're obviously going to have to worry about dependencies |
| 19:33.45 | stew | xored: i don't know what that is |
| 19:33.47 | MetaPhaze | stew trying to install ndiswrapper and modules so i can get on the net... |
| 19:33.53 | lunitik | stew: no one knows what CD ndiswrapper is on |
| 19:33.59 | zinx | MetaPhaze: even with, say, gentoo. |
| 19:33.59 | stew | !which cd |
| 19:34.00 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 19:34.05 | xored | stew: nevermind, thank you anyway |
| 19:34.34 | stew | it used to be on cd14, i haven't looked since r2 |
| 19:34.47 | MetaPhaze | stew in order to do that... i would need debian on the net... i use gentoo as my main distro on all 15 of my computers |
| 19:35.01 | Tallu | lunitik: yeah i was just trying to figure out if i had kept mistyping it. thanks :) |
| 19:35.05 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, 14 |
| 19:35.14 | stew | MetaPhaze: someone said you were trying to figure out which cd. do you have a full cd set? |
| 19:35.22 | seeds | lunitik my arch is 386 dpkg says 486 686 k7 etc |
| 19:35.25 | MetaPhaze | stew, working on it |
| 19:35.35 | MetaPhaze | stew bittorrent is on 6 of 14 |
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| 19:35.47 | lunitik | seeds: what kind of CPU you have? |
| 19:35.54 | stew | MetaPhaze: you should only need 1 and 14 to get ndiswrapper |
| 19:36.00 | seeds | pentium 4 |
| 19:36.02 | stew | http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo/?name=ndiswrapper*&whichtype=any |
| 19:36.08 | lunitik | seeds: -686 |
| 19:36.18 | xored | what is nusoap ? |
| 19:36.20 | seeds | ok thnx lunitik |
| 19:36.35 | darren_ | hi, I am trying to get a minimal X setup on a debian box so I can try out mythtv. 'startx' brings up some kind of gui with a warning about no session managers, no window managers and no terminal emulators. Should I install a window manager or does it sound like I have enough x working? :/ (confused) |
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| 19:37.02 | lunitik | seeds: you actually likely want -686-smp ... but yeah... -686 at least (-smp is for hyperthreading or symetric multiprocessing) |
| 19:37.30 | seeds | ok |
| 19:37.36 | MetaPhaze | stew zinx thanks for your help... and lunitik for his smart*ssness... there are punks on all channels i guess... i'm going to wait till i burn all of the cd's even though i was hoping for a live install... oh well :( |
| 19:37.59 | stew | MetaPhaze: there is no need for name calling, just use /ignore if you must |
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| 19:38.09 | vivek | hello people. |
| 19:38.30 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: Gentoo is a sore spot, I apologize for coming across as rude :/ |
| 19:38.44 | stew | MetaPhaze: there is really no reason to burn cds that don't contain packages you need, i'd recommend just getting the ones that get you on the network, then install the rest of the packages over the network |
| 19:38.46 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, np |
| 19:38.50 | fasta | I had to tell the make-kpkg the arch... not good... |
| 19:38.52 | aredhel | MetaPhaze, for updating debian using removable media take a look at apt-zip. |
| 19:39.08 | MetaPhaze | stew... without ndiswrapper i cannot get on the net |
| 19:39.15 | vivek | i can't seem to ssh into my machine from within the network ... with ssh username@192.168.1.xxx login always fails even with the rigt password |
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| 19:39.25 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: reading the apt-gentoo factoid would have let you know I disliked Gentoo... |
| 19:39.29 | stew | MetaPhaze: yeah, that is on cd 14, you should only need 14 and 1. |
| 19:39.57 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, being that i'm new here knowing about apt-gentoo is kinda outa the question |
| 19:40.21 | stew | apt-getntoo was an april fools joke |
| 19:40.32 | MetaPhaze | stew... gonna burn them all... see... i set up windows users with linux... call me a preacher but i convert them |
| 19:40.41 | zinx | stew: it doesn't actually work? |
| 19:40.44 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: I posted the factoid to the channel... and you proceeded to address me about Gentoo... /msg dpkg apt-gentoo again to see clearer what it is |
| 19:40.53 | MetaPhaze | stew debian was easy to install... so i will add it to my distro's that i force on newbies |
| 19:40.57 | zinx | stew: that's unfortunate, i was considering trying it out |
| 19:41.04 | stew | zinx: no, if you download the source package, it contains nothing but a "april fools" README.Debain or somehting |
| 19:41.13 | zinx | stew: :( |
| 19:41.20 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, gentoo is not a waste of time for one... it really is faster if you know what your doing |
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| 19:41.33 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: in your opinion |
| 19:41.39 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, fact |
| 19:41.45 | stew | MetaPhaze: lunitik: please keep it on-topic |
| 19:41.54 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, if i had the page with the test results i would show you |
| 19:41.59 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: show me bench marks that include speeds... and include compilation time |
| 19:42.39 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, compilation time is just a price you have to pay... no getting around that... it's the final result that makes it worth while |
| 19:43.00 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: minimal speed boosts + hours of compilation = waste of time ... ymmv |
| 19:43.12 | MetaPhaze | stew, now i can convert people to slackware debian elive gentoo and suse |
| 19:43.22 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, in your opinion |
| 19:43.53 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: as I said... ymmv |
| 19:43.59 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, gentoo = tweekers distro... if you don't like tweeking don't use |
| 19:44.19 | stew | MetaPhaze: lunitik: please drop the gentoo discussion or take it to #gentoo |
| 19:44.26 | MetaPhaze | debian redhat suse elive = windows users friendly distro's |
| 19:44.43 | MetaPhaze | or people who don't know computers distro's |
| 19:44.51 | zinx | no |
| 19:44.54 | zinx | that's ubuntu |
| 19:45.00 | MetaPhaze | definatly |
| 19:45.28 | zinx | debian's not particularly windows-user friendly, dunno about elive |
| 19:45.37 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: Debian is certainly not user friendly enough today for joe windowsuser |
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| 19:45.48 | Ronin | lunitik: likely never will be etiher |
| 19:45.50 | Ronin | either |
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| 19:45.55 | MetaPhaze | zinx, it's fairly windows user friendly... it installs automatically with few questions |
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| 19:45.58 | zinx | yeah, that's not really the goal of debian |
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| 19:46.06 | syntaxx | im getting this error when i sign out in squirrelmail "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the requested page how to fix this? |
| 19:46.11 | MetaPhaze | zinx, elive doesn't even have to install |
| 19:46.18 | lunitik | zinx: elive is a livecd... all livecd's can likely be included in the "Friendly to Windows Converts" category... |
| 19:46.22 | MetaPhaze | zinx, and it's debian based |
| 19:46.28 | zinx | lunitik: yeah, i guess so |
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| 19:46.34 | zinx | MetaPhaze: maybe that's where your folly is |
| 19:46.42 | zinx | MetaPhaze: debian-based is, generally, nothing like debian |
| 19:46.43 | MetaPhaze | zinx, where? |
| 19:46.44 | fasta | zinx: Oh, no? Have you ever read the social contract? |
| 19:47.04 | MetaPhaze | zinx, www.elivecd.com... it's debian meets elive... full debian support |
| 19:47.14 | zinx | MetaPhaze: having all these uber-user-friendly distros based on debian does not mean debian is user-friendly |
| 19:47.15 | MetaPhaze | zinx, full apt-get support and repositories |
| 19:47.37 | zinx | MetaPhaze: trust me, debian-based isn't debian |
| 19:47.43 | stew | and its off-topic |
| 19:47.53 | MetaPhaze | zinx, try slackware or gentoo and tell me that... when i convert a windows user ease of installation and upgrades is a + |
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| 19:47.58 | lunitik | zinx: Ubuntu/Linspire/Xandros are only distro's that really come to mind as "nothing like Debian" (in that they can't be combined with Debian packages easily) |
| 19:48.08 | stew | MetaPhaze: please keep it on topic. do you have any more debian related questions? |
| 19:48.17 | lunitik | zinx: although I seem to remember Xandros being fairly well behaved in general |
| 19:48.22 | zinx | lunitik: being able to use debian packages doesn't make it debian - they have extra stuff installed that makes it very much not like debian |
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| 19:48.54 | stew | lunitik: ask #xandros |
| 19:49.26 | MetaPhaze | stew... no... i usually have no questions... only rare cercomstances... i have 12 years of linux... from back when slack was the only distro... that's why you see my name in here and i never say a word |
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| 19:49.50 | MetaPhaze | stew... today was the exception |
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| 19:50.14 | stew | lunitik: stop |
| 19:50.16 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, no it was the first |
| 19:50.36 | lunitik | SLS or something |
| 19:50.46 | xored | I need to take out soap out og the current php5 (unstable) build. running stable sarge. Its build in, how can i maybe govergive a flag, or is there no way? |
| 19:50.55 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, look it up |
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| 19:51.15 | stew | lunitik: if you want to discuss various linux distributions, please go to ##linux |
| 19:51.29 | lunitik | MetaPhaze: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware "The first Slackware release, 1.00, was on July 16, 1993 [1] by Patrick Volkerding, founder and lead developer. It was based on the SLS Linux distribution and supplied as 3½" floppy disk images that were available by anonymous FTP" |
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| 19:52.02 | lunitik | stew: sorry :/ |
| 19:52.18 | tuxedup | the current kernel available for etch is still 2.6.15-8 isn't it? |
| 19:52.21 | Hotwire | those were the days, no problems with only being able to read cds not burn them |
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| 19:52.44 | MetaPhaze | lunitik, Early distributions included: |
| 19:52.44 | MetaPhaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.44 | MetaPhaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.45 | MetaPhaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.45 | MetaPhaze | None of these distributions were well-maintained, so Patrick Volkerding released a distribution based on SLS, which he called Slackware; released July 16, 1993 [2], this is the oldest distribution still in active development. |
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| 19:53.36 | erich1958 | Hello everybody |
| 19:53.40 | whadar | hey all |
| 19:53.49 | stew | tuxedup: yes |
| 19:54.35 | tuxedup | stew: thanks |
| 19:55.26 | whadar | this is not a pure debian question but i think it is interesting so anyway: |
| 19:55.31 | stew | tuxedup: the packagename is linux-image-2.6.15-1-* but the current version of 2.6.15-1 is 2.6.15-8 |
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| 19:56.33 | whadar | is there any stable stackable fs (eg. unionfs) that play well with remote fs (eg nfs)? |
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| 19:56.48 | UK_PC_Convert | Evening All :-) |
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| 19:57.54 | UK_PC_Convert | Can anyone help, I have been trying to install gd on my php5 install and it says it needs a newer version of Libc6, I tried to install that but it has a dependency on tzdata, when I try and install that I get libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable ... How can I continue :-( |
| 19:58.23 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: are you trying to install php5 from testing/unstable onto a stable system? |
| 19:58.23 | UK_PC_Convert | if I run apt-get -f install it says its want sto delete 400mb of files :-( |
| 19:58.51 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: you should be using backports if you are on stable, its a very bad idea to mix testing/unstable with stable, /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg bpo |
| 19:59.11 | UK_PC_Convert | ontoo a stable system from a site I found (for debian) |
| 19:59.29 | UK_PC_Convert | :( I guess thats what I am doing :-( |
| 19:59.34 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: what version of libc6 do you have installed now? |
| 19:59.46 | UK_PC_Convert | I had php5 installed from backports but then wanted gd |
| 20:00.13 | UK_PC_Convert | I am sorry to sound stupid but ho do I find out what version I have installed now |
| 20:00.15 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: you should have install php5-gd from backports then |
| 20:00.16 | erich1958 | Hi UK_PC_Convert, installing a new lib6 is very difficult. Use a backport or change your complete system to the latest unstable. |
| 20:00.27 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: "dpkg -l libc6" |
| 20:00.37 | stew | erich1958: please don't recommend that random people switch to unstable |
| 20:01.06 | erich1958 | stew your right. |
| 20:01.06 | UK_PC_Convert | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.24 | UK_PC_Convert | can I back out or not :-( |
| 20:01.30 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: you aren't running stable anymore, you've upgraded to testing/unstable |
| 20:01.47 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: now you must finish upgrading to testing or reinstall stable |
| 20:02.04 | UK_PC_Convert | ok what is easiest :-) |
| 20:02.28 | UK_PC_Convert | do I just change my apt sources and do an update? |
| 20:02.39 | stew | UK_PC_Convert: you should be running stable at least until you uderstand the package management betteer. you should certainly be running stable if you are working with an internet facing server |
| 20:02.54 | stoned | !paster |
| 20:02.54 | dpkg | pastebin is, like, a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 20:03.42 | UK_PC_Convert | if I reinstall stable will I loose all my email, web, dns configs? |
| 20:05.34 | fasta | UK_PC_Convert: unless you backup, I believe so. Debian doesn't support downgrading. |
| 20:05.57 | UK_PC_Convert | ok, thanks guys |
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| 20:06.11 | UK_PC_Convert | I guess I am screwed :-( |
| 20:06.44 | Ronin | UK_PC_Convert: so back up and reinstall stable |
| 20:07.02 | UK_PC_Convert | k thanks |
| 20:07.09 | fasta | I wished downgrading was made into a priority, since a lot of people are confused about Debian and they just take the "newest, because that's kewl". |
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| 20:07.15 | Ronin | its not that tough to do , we've all done it at least once i suspect |
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| 20:07.48 | UK_PC_Convert | :-) thanks |
| 20:07.59 | sticky | Whats the fastest way to 'fuck' your hard drive? |
| 20:08.11 | Ronin | sticky: install windows on it |
| 20:08.13 | tuxedup | In terms of responce times for issueing security updates,how does Debian compare to the other big distributions, is it fairly quick, I know it can vary but on average. |
| 20:08.15 | sticky | lol Ronin |
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| 20:08.23 | sticky | I awnt to write nothing but 0's on hda1 |
| 20:08.35 | Ronin | sticky: got a big arse magnet handy? |
| 20:08.44 | w00t- | Uptime: 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours 25 minutes 34 seconds |
| 20:08.47 | sticky | Not a remote box |
| 20:08.49 | sticky | ;) |
| 20:08.52 | w00t- | my winblows |
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| 20:08.54 | Ronin | we deguaze ours then shred the badboys once a month |
| 20:08.57 | sticky | I want to format it myself and have them reinstall |
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| 20:09.07 | wut | i just did a dist-upgrade and now i can't use cedega |
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| 20:09.49 | Ronin | sticky: why not just reinstall? too much strange porn on it and your embarrased? ;) |
| 20:09.55 | wut | "Locale not supported by C library" |
| 20:09.57 | sticky | Ronin: nah, I just want to |
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| 20:14.18 | stoned | whenever I use my mousewheel up/down roll in konqueror browser, it tries to send button presses. xorg.conf looks fine to me, nothing has changed, any idea? |
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| 20:15.23 | rockstar_ | stoned, might be a konquerer problem? A friend of mine always has wierd problems like that in konquerer. |
| 20:15.42 | rockstar_ | It just started happening all the time? |
| 20:15.49 | stoned | everything was fine before this sid update today |
| 20:15.59 | rockstar_ | Ah, there was an update... |
| 20:16.14 | stoned | yeah, after like half a year |
| 20:16.16 | stoned | on this sid box |
| 20:16.37 | Ins|de | hi there, i'm with a little problem in my ubuntu 6.06 LTS and i've no sound!! the alsa modules are loaded and i can run xmms without any error (and of course the cables are plugged :)).. any idea? |
| 20:17.05 | shogunx | Ins|de #ubuntu |
| 20:17.24 | wut | insmod, did you turn the volume up? |
| 20:17.25 | Ins|de | shogunx, i'm there.. |
| 20:17.37 | erich1958 | Ins|de: Is your mixer muted? |
| 20:17.57 | Ins|de | erich1958, i dont think so.. ow do i restore my mixer to default values? |
| 20:18.07 | Ins|de | *how |
| 20:18.29 | rockstar_ | Ins|de, alsaconf |
| 20:18.44 | erich1958 | Well, start alsamixer and set the volumes to your liking. |
| 20:18.45 | Ins|de | i'm there, everything on max volume |
| 20:19.15 | cahoot | Ins|de: what card? |
| 20:19.21 | Ins|de | Card: VIA 8235 |
| 20:20.03 | cahoot | Ins|de: test sound with cat /dev/urandom| aplay |
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| 20:21.38 | Ins|de | cahoot, there's no sound... |
| 20:22.47 | cahoot | Ins|de: no error msg? make sure not only volume levels are set but also pcm and master are unmuted |
| 20:22.54 | Ins|de | this is happening after create a new X session with gdmflexyserver and then startted kde.. |
| 20:23.09 | fasta | The kernel needs XML tools to build. What a joke! |
| 20:23.15 | cahoot | Ins|de: so artsd is at work? |
| 20:23.34 | Ins|de | cahoot, no.. just esd |
| 20:23.59 | Ins|de | cahoot, master and pcm bars are up |
| 20:24.21 | cahoot | Ins|de: *and* unmuted? |
| 20:24.54 | stoned | I just rolled my mouse wheel in x-chat and it did a whois on some dude |
| 20:25.18 | Ins|de | cahoot, how do i unmute pcm and master with alsamixer? i didnt find that option :s |
| 20:25.18 | stoned | it has to be a mousewheel config issue, although xorg.conf has not been changed, still says zaxismapping 4 5 |
| 20:25.23 | Mongo2 | private |
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| 20:25.53 | cahoot | Ins|de: toggle with 'm' |
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| 20:26.49 | Ins|de | cahoot, it's unmutted, have a 00 there |
| 20:27.20 | cahoot | Ins|de: good, fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm* comes up blank? |
| 20:27.39 | Presently42 | How do i find out what driver to use for my built-in IR device? In fact, how do I find out what my IR device is: It doesn't seem to be listed in KInfoCentre. |
| 20:27.55 | stew | Presently42: does it show up in lspci? |
| 20:27.57 | Ins|de | cahoot, yes, it comes up blank |
| 20:28.15 | cahoot | Ins|de: how about fuser -v /dev/dsp? |
| 20:28.23 | Presently42 | stew: I don't think so. |
| 20:28.30 | Presently42 | Shall I do a pastebin? |
| 20:28.34 | stew | Presently42: how about lsusb? |
| 20:28.36 | rockstar_ | Presently42, is it serial or USB? |
| 20:28.43 | Ins|de | cahoot, it comes up blank too |
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| 20:29.26 | Presently42 | stew: There are three usb ports, one (Number one) is listed twice). |
| 20:29.49 | Presently42 | rockstar_at: I think neither: IT's built-in. |
| 20:29.54 | erich1958 | Bye |
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| 20:30.00 | cahoot | Ins|de: the good news is: all seems to be as it should be, the bad news: I've no idea why it doesn't 'work' |
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| 20:30.49 | stoned | does anyone have any idea why my mousewheel scroll up/down is sending middle mouse click events |
| 20:31.09 | Ins|de | cahoot, :s ok.. thanks.. ist there any way to restore mixer values to default? |
| 20:31.24 | stoned | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" <-- xorg.conf is fine as far as I can recall |
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| 20:32.04 | Presently42 | What if the kernel isn't recognising that there is an IR port(?)? Can I get a driver for a thing that doesn't seem to exist? |
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| 20:35.08 | Presently42 | "built-in IrDA ports" From lirc.org. lsmod shows irda. Perhaps this is it? |
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| 20:36.19 | stoned | could anyone kindly help me figure out/fix this problem |
| 20:36.22 | Hotwire | if in sarge the k infocenter tells me that there in no info about the soundcard does this mean its not properly configured? |
| 20:36.38 | UK_PC_Convert | thanks guys, I am off byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 20:41.51 | rockstar_ | Presently42, that's it. irDA |
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| 20:42.23 | Presently42 | rockstar_at: Groovy. The module is loaded. All I need is to find the driver, right? |
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| 20:43.48 | labuser | I'm on debian etch, using an nvidia geforece2 mx 400, with the nv X11 driver. I have a strange problem where when I leave the computer, and the DPMS kicks in, the screen is scrambled (a bunch of lines overlapping with each other, you can't see anything), and I'm forced to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
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| 20:44.31 | rockstar_ | Presently42, well, I'm not sure what you mean by "driver" and "module" I would say it's the same thing. However, you may be using different terminology. I say go find a software that will interface with the ir port. |
| 20:45.06 | crazy_penguin | i'm off. i wish to everyone a good night. sleep well! :) |
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| 20:46.08 | Presently42 | rockstar_at: That's what I mean by driver. I'm on the lirc.org site and they have a few listings for irda. It says I need to load their own kernel-modules as the current one isn't supported. Does this mean I'm going to have to chuck the debian package and install lirc by hand? |
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| 20:46.57 | wut | hi i just ran dist-upgrade and rebooted now it says that X isn't executable |
| 20:47.04 | Presently42 | Well, I assume it does, so I will. |
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| 20:47.22 | wut | i really have no idea what to do |
| 20:48.14 | Presently42 | wut: Start off by telling us what flavour of Debian you use (Stable Sarge, Testing Etch or Unstable Sid). |
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| 20:48.25 | wut | i was at sarge and went to etch |
| 20:48.31 | wut | through dist-upgrade |
| 20:49.13 | Presently42 | wut: There has been a large change betwixt Sarge and Etch, X-wise. You are now using X.org. Most likely, you're missing a few packages. |
| 20:49.21 | masadd | how can i add dhclient to linux boot script? |
| 20:49.38 | wut | how do i make it use x86? |
| 20:49.40 | Presently42 | wut: What is the exact error message? |
| 20:50.05 | Presently42 | XFree86 is deprecated in all but Sarge: You don't, in other words. |
| 20:50.14 | wut | X is not executable, giving up |
| 20:50.30 | Presently42 | Check the permissions of X. |
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| 20:51.16 | Presently42 | wut: I *think* they should be 755. I could be very wrong. |
| 20:51.38 | wut | i don't know how to check permissions |
| 20:51.47 | rockstar_ | wut ls -lsa X |
| 20:51.59 | wut | also, i'd have to exit irc and come back |
| 20:52.08 | wut | i'm on irssi right now |
| 20:52.20 | Presently42 | wut: Go forth and try! |
| 20:52.32 | rockstar_ | wut, just Ctrl+Alt+F2 |
| 20:52.36 | rockstar_ | New terminal |
| 20:52.54 | wut | ok |
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| 20:52.59 | rockstar_ | Switch back with F1 |
| 20:53.42 | Z_God | what is the proper way to let a debuild use another gcc version? |
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| 20:54.24 | s-andy | hi |
| 20:54.42 | wut | 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2006-05-19 16:11 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 20:54.46 | wut | is what i get |
| 20:54.56 | s-andy | can i use "growisofs -M" to continue writing dvd+r? |
| 20:55.08 | drasko | what packages do I need to compile custom module. Are kernel-headers enough, or do I need kernel source also? |
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| 20:55.38 | s-andy | drasko: kernel-headers should be enough |
| 20:55.39 | Presently42 | wut: There is the problem. /etc/X11/X is pointing to a thing that doesn't exist. Change the /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 to your current X. |
| 20:55.56 | Presently42 | wut: If you don't know what that is, type in whereis X. |
| 20:56.12 | wut | it's in three places |
| 20:56.28 | Presently42 | Any thing in /usr/bin/X11? |
| 20:56.32 | wut | yeah |
| 20:56.39 | Presently42 | That's the one. |
| 20:57.06 | wut | i'm not sure what my current one is |
| 20:57.20 | Presently42 | wut: /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 20:57.43 | wut | mv /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 /usr/bin/X11/X? |
| 20:57.49 | Lateralus | peterS: Ping? |
| 20:57.58 | peterS | Lateralus. |
| 20:58.22 | Lateralus | peterS: How do I get the raid array back once I reboot? Once I reboot it's no longer available. |
| 20:58.41 | Presently42 | wut: No. You need ln -s /etc/X11/X /usr/bin/X11/X, I believe. |
| 20:58.47 | peterS | Lateralus: is this your root filesystem? |
| 20:59.15 | Lateralus | peterS: I've put the output of mdadm --detail --scan into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, and have an ARRAY entry there, but using mdadm --run /dev/md0 tells me "railed to run array /dev/md0: invalid argument" |
| 20:59.21 | Lateralus | peterS: no, just extra storage |
| 20:59.25 | Presently42 | wut: Actually, you could try executing X from that folder to see if it works. |
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| 20:59.42 | peterS | Lateralus: you have DEVICE lines in mdadm.conf? |
| 20:59.42 | labuser | I'm on debian etch, using an nvidia geforece2 mx 400, with the nv X11 driver. I have a strange problem where when I leave the computer, and the DPMS kicks in, the screen is scrambled (a bunch of lines overlapping with each other, you can't see anything), and I'm forced to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| 20:59.49 | drasko | Can anyone please than take a look at: http://pastebin.ca/89039. I am trying to compile "Hello World" module, but it fails... |
| 21:00.01 | war95 | Lateralus: sounds like you didnt set it up right? |
| 21:00.07 | wut | it says that the file exists when i try to ln -s it |
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| 21:00.27 | Lateralus | peterS: I've set the first line in the file to DEVICE /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd |
| 21:00.29 | peterS | war95: now that's a helpful answer |
| 21:00.37 | Lateralus | war95: erm, thank you. You have struck again. |
| 21:01.01 | wut | and when i tried to execute it from the folder it just said it's not executable |
| 21:01.04 | Presently42 | wut; Probably because you have an /etc/X11/X already. I suggest you establish that X works before proceeding: in /usr/bin/X11, ./X . |
| 21:01.06 | peterS | Lateralus: I think you want /dev/sda* /dev/sdb* etc., where the * means check partitions not just the whole drives |
| 21:01.45 | war95 | Lateralus: you don't need an mdadm.conf at all |
| 21:01.47 | war95 | Lateralus: Ive nevr used one |
| 21:01.51 | war95 | Lateralus: and I use raid1/raid5 |
| 21:01.52 | wut | Presently42: none of them are executable.. |
| 21:01.56 | Lateralus | war95: mdadm is telling me otherwise. |
| 21:01.59 | war95 | Lateralus: what does mdadm -D /dev/md0 say |
| 21:02.03 | war95 | Lateralus: are you running sid? |
| 21:02.18 | war95 | Lateralus: are your partitions raid-auto-detect? |
| 21:02.27 | wut | Presently42: when i run Xorg it gives me a response though |
| 21:02.36 | Lateralus | peterS: when setting up the array I used those, and I only have one partition on the drives, the whole drives. |
| 21:02.41 | Presently42 | wut: What does it say? |
| 21:02.45 | war95 | Lateralus: what partition TYPE? |
| 21:02.54 | Lateralus | peterS: changing it to sda1 etc doesn't change anything |
| 21:03.17 | peterS | Lateralus: I don't understand - did you create a partition table or not? i.e., does sda1 exist (in /proc/partitions) or not? |
| 21:03.18 | wut | fatal server error: no screens found |
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| 21:03.38 | wut | VGA(0): Driver can't support depth 24 |
| 21:03.49 | Lateralus | war95: mdadm -D tells me "/dev/md0 does not appear to be active", don't know if they're raid-auto-detect, ext3 |
| 21:03.59 | wut | failed to load module "speedo" "keyboard" |
| 21:04.06 | Presently42 | wut: Alright. I believe you are missing some packages. That's why I wanted you to run X. |
| 21:04.07 | war95 | Lateralus: thats probably your problem |
| 21:04.17 | war95 | Lateralus: fdisk -l /dev/blah <- does it say Linux or RAID AUTO DETECT? |
| 21:04.21 | peterS | Lateralus: when he says raid-auto-detect he means the partition type as printed by 'fdisk -l /dev/sda'. if you didn't create a partition table, this won't work |
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| 21:04.38 | war95 | pearl: ding ding ding |
| 21:04.39 | rockstar_ | packages.debian.org finds libguile-dev to be connected with the executable "aclocal" However, I installed it, and still have no aclocal. Anyone know what I might need? |
| 21:05.03 | Lateralus | ah crap |
| 21:05.05 | Lateralus | -_- |
| 21:05.17 | pearl | war95: whats up? |
| 21:05.34 | peterS | Lateralus: now it probably can be made to work, but everything seems to go easier if you do create a partition table and set sda1 to type 'fd' which is raid autodetect. |
| 21:05.41 | Presently42 | wut: You need to figure out what packages you need. At least, that's the way it is with unstable. I'm not sure about testing, actually. Any way, try to get all of the packages that you think you need: You can always remove some later if you find you don't need them. |
| 21:06.06 | Lateralus | alright, thanks for your help guys |
| 21:06.06 | war95 | pearl: erm, meant peterS , damn auto-complete |
| 21:06.09 | peterS | Lateralus: as opposed to just using the whole sda, without a partition table, as it seems you may be doing |
| 21:06.13 | war95 | np. |
| 21:06.19 | Lateralus | peterS: that's what I'm doing |
| 21:06.27 | Lateralus | peterS: I'll partition them |
| 21:06.40 | peterS | Lateralus: to be honest I don't know how to get mdadm to recognise sda without a partition table. I think it can be made to work. but anyway. |
| 21:07.13 | war95 | Lateralus: btw curious what disks are you using? ide? scsi? and what raid level are you using? |
| 21:07.19 | lazy | rockstar_, automake (note that there are various versions) |
| 21:07.19 | war95 | Lateralus: you are not using the secondary IDE port (slave) are eoyu? |
| 21:07.28 | labuser | :( |
| 21:07.30 | rockstar_ | Ah, packages needed for aclocal are automake and autotools-dev |
| 21:07.47 | rockstar_ | lazy, Yeah, I found that about the same time you did |
| 21:08.06 | peterS | Lateralus: if you haven't stored any data on the drives yet, you can just redo from start - use 'cfdisk' to create the one partition and use its 'type' function to set type fd on it |
| 21:09.15 | peterS | rockstar_: actually no, you need automake-1.4, automake-1.6, automake-1.7, automake-1.8 or automake-1.9. depending on what the author of the software is using. |
| 21:09.41 | peterS | rockstar_: if they're using automake 1.4 and you try to shove aclocal-1.7 in there, for example, your story will probably not have a happy ending |
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| 21:10.25 | peterS | rockstar_: there is some flexibility between automake 1.6, 1.7, 1.8 and 1.9 - some software will work with any of those. but not all software will. best to use what the author is using. |
| 21:11.05 | rockstar_ | peterS, I'm actually using the deb apt-sources, worked fine with my other system that was 32 bit, so they are apparently using the same version. |
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| 21:12.43 | rudenstam | how can one determine if there's PCI-X or not in the computer (building remote kernel) |
| 21:13.01 | war95 | rudenstam: dmidecode/lspci |
| 21:13.05 | rockstar_ | rudenstam, lspci |
| 21:13.11 | war95 | rudenstam: get the motherboard model from dmidecode and look it up |
| 21:13.17 | war95 | or lshw. (uses dmidecode) |
| 21:13.55 | rudenstam | ahh.. cool |
| 21:14.22 | Lateralus | peterS: sata, and I'm just going to start over. I had only moved a small portion of things onto the array, so it's no big deal. |
| 21:14.31 | Lateralus | peterS: oh, and raid5. |
| 21:15.01 | peterS | Lateralus: yeah so anyway I recommend 'cfdisk' for creating partitions and setting them to type 'raid autodetect', which is fd if I remember correctly |
| 21:16.54 | war95 | Lateralus: nice how many disks? |
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| 21:20.00 | Lateralus | war95: four 300gig drives |
| 21:20.10 | war95 | Lateralus: nice |
| 21:20.21 | go1dfish | yes :) |
| 21:20.30 | war95 | Lateralus: should get about 840gb assuming you use xfs or mkfs.ext* -m 0 |
| 21:20.40 | war95 | Lateralus: 8 x 400 here, 2.6T |
| 21:20.47 | war95 | and raid1 raptor 74gb x2 |
| 21:20.49 | go1dfish | they were marked at 150 and when we checked out we got charged 90 or xso |
| 21:21.14 | Lateralus | $99 iirc |
| 21:21.54 | war95 | Lateralus: hope not maxtor |
| 21:22.12 | Lateralus | war95: seagate |
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| 21:22.21 | war95 | Lateralus: very good ;) |
| 21:23.19 | Lateralus | my box is now a huge rats nest of power and sata connections |
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| 21:24.10 | war95 | Lateralus: also |
| 21:24.21 | war95 | Lateralus: I sure hope you are monitoring: a) Disk temp b) SMART |
| 21:24.36 | Lateralus | war95: SMART? |
| 21:24.42 | war95 | Lateralus: apt-get install smartmontools |
| 21:24.53 | war95 | Lateralus: it tells you if there is literally any problem with each hdd and dsends email |
| 21:25.00 | Lateralus | excellent |
| 21:25.01 | war95 | Lateralus: I wouldnt run a box without it |
| 21:25.17 | peterS | war95: does the kernel sata layer support smart now? for a long time it didn't |
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| 21:25.44 | war95 | peterS: yes sir since 2.6.15 |
| 21:26.02 | peterS | good to know. I have no sata but next time I buy a hard drive I suppose it will be sata |
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| 21:26.24 | war95 | :) |
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| 21:28.22 | wut | Presently42: i'm trying to upgrade but theres a package that ruins everything |
| 21:28.25 | wut | it's called libcomedi |
| 21:28.31 | tuv | i've a problem with anacron daily jobs. logrotate gets <defunct> and halts the daily jobs until i manually kill the run-parts process. it's been a few weeks since daily job last ran :( |
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| 21:29.09 | bartm | wut: define "ruins everything"? |
| 21:29.28 | wut | it stops the upgrade |
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| 21:30.10 | bartm | wut: can you show the output you see? |
| 21:30.22 | wut | i can't copy paste |
| 21:30.27 | wut | i'm in console |
| 21:31.15 | mentor | tuv: That sounds like run-parts isn't collecting the child exit status properly |
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| 21:31.38 | tuv | mentor, so what do i do? |
| 21:32.01 | bartm | wut: so now what? :) |
| 21:32.15 | wut | i have to use windows or something |
| 21:32.32 | wut | x won't start |
| 21:32.33 | masadd | i installed my network card after installing debian...so now i need to login as root and run dhclient each time...how can i fix this problem...so i wont need to do that? |
| 21:32.39 | wut | and everythings out of whack |
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| 21:34.00 | bartm | wut: version of "comedi" you installed? |
| 21:34.12 | wut | i didn't install it |
| 21:34.30 | wut | it's 0.7.22 though |
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| 21:35.01 | bartm | wut: you wrote "a package that ruins everything" and "it's called libcomedy", so can you explain more about this? |
| 21:36.05 | Shadowcat | a package that ruins everything... hmm wouldn't that be mswindows-me-1.0? |
| 21:36.06 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 21:36.22 | wut | i didn't write it |
| 21:36.49 | rockstar_ | Anyone know where I can get the debhelper.mk file? |
| 21:36.54 | bartm | wut: you're not very clear about the problem you want help with |
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| 21:37.24 | wut | bartm: i don't know what the problem is, there seems to be a lot wrong |
| 21:37.37 | wut | i went from sarge to etch today |
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| 21:41.48 | wut | what's the command to setup xorg? |
| 21:42.15 | xored | anybody got experiance with ISPconfig or vhffs ( free confixx "brothers") |
| 21:42.21 | Jemt | wut: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:43.11 | mentor | tuv: Report a bug... |
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| 21:44.40 | rockstar_ | For those of you who didn't know the answer to my question, but were curios, debhelper.mk is found in the cdbs package |
| 21:45.06 | mentor | !listvals apt-file |
| 21:45.08 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'apt-file' by value (5): install apt-file ;; apt-find ;; apt-file ;; search #DEL# ;; search. |
| 21:45.17 | mentor | !search |
| 21:45.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
| 21:45.27 | bartm | mentor: you can talk to dpkg in private |
| 21:45.44 | mentor | bartm: heh. I was doing it for informational purposes |
| 21:46.09 | Jemt | wut: You are welcome.. |
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| 21:47.17 | wut | Jemt: thanks, just trying to at least get into x |
| 21:47.24 | wut | but that didn't help |
| 21:47.41 | Jemt | wut: Did you get any error messages ? |
| 21:47.57 | wut | no |
| 21:48.07 | Jemt | wut: I'm pretty sure you did |
| 21:48.38 | wut | the dpkg-reconfigure didn't get any errors |
| 21:48.55 | Jemt | I was talking about X errors :) |
| 21:49.02 | Jemt | Try starting X and see what errors you get |
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| 21:50.28 | Jemt | wut: Running Gnome ? |
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| 21:50.50 | wut | Jemt: i was running kde |
| 21:51.08 | Jemt | wut: Ok. Do you know how to start X ? |
| 21:51.26 | wut | yeah, it says no drivers available/no screens found |
| 21:51.38 | Jemt | Eh.. |
| 21:51.40 | Jemt | Hmm |
| 21:51.51 | Jemt | Is that all ? |
| 21:51.59 | Jemt | What graphic card do you have ? |
| 21:52.09 | wut | nvidia fx 6600gt |
| 21:52.43 | Jemt | What card did you choose when you set up X ? |
| 21:52.52 | wut | nvidia fx 6600gt |
| 21:53.11 | wut | the thing is, i was using xfree86 until an hour ago |
| 21:53.22 | Lateralus | peterS: I just tried it again with partition tables, it still isn't working. mdadm -R /dev/md0 tells me "/dev/md0: invalid argument" |
| 21:53.31 | rockstar_ | wut, did you go to etch or sid? |
| 21:53.35 | wut | etch |
| 21:54.00 | Jemt | What card did you choose when you set up X ? <= What driver/module from 'dpkg-reconfigure ... ' |
| 21:54.12 | rockstar_ | wut, did you use the proprietary nvidia driver? |
| 21:54.52 | wut | no last time i tried to use it i got errors |
| 21:55.01 | peterS | Lateralus: ho hum. is md0 in use or anything? (cat /proc/mdstat) |
| 21:55.11 | Jemt | wut: Oh well, I tried |
| 21:55.24 | Lateralus | peterS: in dmesg I see "md: bug in file drivers/md/md.c, line 1513" |
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| 21:55.59 | Lateralus | peterS: mdstat says personalities: [raid5], unused devices: <none> |
| 21:56.37 | peterS | Lateralus: that doesn't tell me much, unfortunately. that bit of code (in kernel 2.6.16) honestly does look like something that should never happen |
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| 21:59.53 | wut | is there no way i can go back to xfree? |
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| 22:11.18 | jwilson | why in debian, at the text console, when you have the caps lock on, do some letters still get typed as lowercase anyway? |
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| 22:11.26 | dn4 | the whole country is blazing up like cheech and chong! |
| 22:11.54 | w00t- | dn4 u drunk ? |
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| 22:12.34 | dn4 | w00t-, nope, I am alive |
| 22:12.39 | w00t- | drunk is cool |
| 22:13.05 | dn4 | I thin wut got a little too drunk |
| 22:13.38 | wut | no, x won't start |
| 22:13.53 | bartm | jwilson: that happens if you press the shift-key while typing :) |
| 22:14.11 | dn4 | wut, :/ who needs X anyways that is some bad stuff mmmkay |
| 22:14.53 | dn4 | wut, did you back up your .config file? |
| 22:15.16 | wut | i went from xfree to xorg |
| 22:15.55 | dn4 | oh your config file might of been changed |
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| 22:15.59 | dn4 | the file path |
| 22:16.10 | dn4 | what does your log info look like when you tryt o start X? |
| 22:16.29 | mfrisch | wut: is it amd64? |
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| 22:16.40 | wut | mfrisch: no |
| 22:17.01 | mfrisch | wut: do you have xfonts-base? |
| 22:17.19 | wut | mfrisch: yes |
| 22:17.34 | mfrisch | wut xbase-clients |
| 22:17.38 | LocalServXP | Hi?! |
| 22:17.50 | wut | have that too |
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| 22:18.16 | mfrisch | wut I donot know....is it set up right? ;-) |
| 22:18.34 | wut | i wouldn't know |
| 22:18.58 | drasko | how do I downgrade a package? I have gcc 4 installed. I want previous version. |
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| 22:19.49 | wut | if xorg was setup fully wouldn't there be an xorgsetup option or something? |
| 22:20.05 | dawg | drasko, you can have multiple major versions of gcc |
| 22:20.16 | wut | i tried dkpg-reconfigure xorg but that didn't help |
| 22:20.36 | mfrisch | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:20.38 | Jemt | wut: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' |
| 22:21.08 | drasko | dawg, to switch between them I just change $CC, right? |
| 22:21.11 | jwilson | bartm: no it has nothing to do with that, and i've had this problem on several debian installations |
| 22:21.13 | LocalServXP | TOP PaidMail: http://www.mager-mails.de.gg/ and/or http://mailcasher.de.gg/ ! If you want to register please use http://www.mager-mails.de/?refid=5720 and/or http://www.mailcasher.de/?refid=1112 |
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| 22:21.23 | jwilson | i think it has something to do with the way console-tools is set up |
| 22:21.49 | wut | ok |
| 22:22.01 | wut | i deleted xorg.conf and the xf86 confs and now it works |
| 22:22.07 | wut | somewhat |
| 22:22.32 | dawg | drasko, yes |
| 22:22.38 | jwilson | i can't believe no one else has had the same problem |
| 22:23.00 | wut | what the hell is going on |
| 22:23.24 | drasko | dawg, hmmmm... Right now echo $CC gives me nothing. How Debian now know which version to use? |
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| 22:24.25 | dawg | drasko, it'll use whichever has the 'gcc' symbolic link in your path. look at ls -l /usr/bin/gcc |
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| 22:24.51 | drasko | dawg, thanks |
| 22:24.52 | lunitik | jwilson: is this random? a particular locale? any more specifics? ... |
| 22:25.23 | lunitik | jwilson: keyboard layout... etc... |
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| 22:26.25 | lunitik | jwilson: en_US-UTF8 ... US 104 key keyboard ... not able to reproduce :( |
| 22:28.25 | jwilson | this has been happening on standard, 101key keyboards.. right now i'm on a laptpo though |
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| 22:30.23 | sciboy | Hey guys, just wondering if there is a known solution to this problem, i need to run a server but i can't setup port forwarding on my router, can i some how connect to another machine and use it as a proxy in reverse? |
| 22:31.12 | jwilson | en_US.UTF-8 here too |
| 22:32.30 | rockstar_ | I'm trying to modprobe a module that has a dash in it, and modprobe keeps thinking it's a underscore. Anyone seen this, have any ideas? |
| 22:33.10 | khaije1 | sciboy: iirc it's possible using OpenSSH, but i've never done it personally |
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| 22:34.20 | khaije1 | sciboy: still, port forwarding is a very basic feature, you should probably just replace your router, or at least double check all the docs you can find to make sure you aren't missing anything (which has happened to me before) |
| 22:34.46 | sciboy | khaije1, Oh i know how and it supports it. |
| 22:34.57 | sciboy | khaije1, Thing is though it's my bro's router and he's gone for a few days. |
| 22:35.05 | sciboy | I don't have administrative access to it. |
| 22:35.29 | khaije1 | sciboy: oic! :-) |
| 22:35.53 | MatBoy | !moo |
| 22:35.53 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:36.02 | MatBoy | damn, this cow still loves me :D |
| 22:36.44 | sciboy | khaije1, Any hints on what to google for? |
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| 22:38.32 | maher | sciboy: do you have access to another machine outside the router? |
| 22:38.50 | sciboy | Yup. |
| 22:39.04 | sciboy | Well, let's assume we do. |
| 22:39.25 | maher | sciboy: just use ssh to port forward ports from the outside machine to the inside one |
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| 22:39.39 | MatBoy | !love |
| 22:39.39 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 22:39.49 | sciboy | maher, What do i google for about that though>? |
| 22:39.51 | MatBoy | huh ? |
| 22:40.06 | sciboy | maher: Is there a name for this feature? |
| 22:40.22 | maher | sciboy: try ssh port forward - or man ssh - I think its -L |
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| 22:41.43 | khaije1 | omfg dpkg! |
| 22:42.55 | sciboy | maher: From what i can tell, that bind the port on the local machine and connects to the remote machine. |
| 22:43.15 | sciboy | We want to bind a port on the remote machine through a established connection on the local machine. |
| 22:44.28 | maher | sciboy: -R? |
| 22:44.42 | sciboy | That's the right one. =D |
| 22:44.51 | MatBoy | !beer MatBoy |
| 22:45.02 | MatBoy | I want PALM !! |
| 22:45.06 | MatBoy | !palm |
| 22:45.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, palm is a personal digital assistant, formerly known as the palm pilot, made by Palm Computing. other companies such as handspring and ibm have clones that use the same OS. you can use pilot-link, coldsync, or one of the X based syncronization programs to use the Palm (or clones) in linux |
| 22:45.25 | MatBoy | !tell dpkg palm Thta is real beer !!! |
| 22:45.27 | sciboy | Thanks. =D |
| 22:45.52 | MatBoy | is it possible to learn dpkg things ? |
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| 22:49.19 | lunitik | MatBoy: dpkg foo is bar, or !foo is bar ... just use "is"... |
| 22:49.57 | MatBoy | lunitik, I don't get it.. can you give an example ? |
| 22:50.09 | MatBoy | aha |
| 22:50.10 | MatBoy | ok |
| 22:50.13 | lunitik | !this is how you do it |
| 22:50.13 | dpkg | lunitik: what are you talking about? |
| 22:50.16 | lunitik | !this |
| 22:50.16 | dpkg | What? |
| 22:50.25 | lunitik | !forget this |
| 22:50.25 | dpkg | i forgot this, lunitik |
| 22:50.38 | lunitik | dpkg this is how you make factoids |
| 22:50.38 | dpkg | lunitik: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 22:50.45 | lunitik | stupid bot |
| 22:50.51 | MatBoy | haha |
| 22:50.54 | MatBoy | LOL |
| 22:51.05 | lunitik | dpkg, tricks is tricks are for kids |
| 22:51.05 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, lunitik |
| 22:51.12 | lunitik | umm? |
| 22:51.18 | MatBoy | !palm is the most real bear I know |
| 22:51.18 | dpkg | ...but palm is already something else... |
| 22:51.40 | MatBoy | !MatBoy is the one I love the most here |
| 22:51.40 | dpkg | MatBoy: okay |
| 22:51.41 | lunitik | tricks |
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| 22:51.44 | MatBoy | haha !! |
| 22:51.45 | lunitik | !tricks |
| 22:51.46 | dpkg | tricks are for kids |
| 22:51.51 | lunitik | !forget tricks |
| 22:51.52 | dpkg | i forgot tricks, lunitik |
| 22:51.57 | MatBoy | !Matboy |
| 22:51.57 | dpkg | [matboy] the one I love the most here |
| 22:52.04 | MatBoy | kewl ! |
| 22:52.19 | lunitik | !forget MatBoy |
| 22:52.19 | dpkg | i forgot matboy, lunitik |
| 22:52.28 | MatBoy | is such a bot installed here on this server or is it a "user" ? |
| 22:52.29 | lunitik | MatBoy: now only use it for useful things! |
| 22:52.51 | MatBoy | aha, ok... so you can remove something with forget |
| 22:52.54 | MatBoy | nice ! |
| 22:53.05 | MatBoy | Now I know how I can remove something when I have a typo |
| 22:53.35 | lunitik | MatBoy: you can also use s/this/that/ for typos |
| 22:53.45 | lunitik | !tricks are for kids |
| 22:53.45 | dpkg | okay, lunitik |
| 22:54.16 | MatBoy | lunitik, yes I have seen that a lot... I have to read a little bit more about it.. IRC is so kewl ! |
| 22:54.17 | lunitik | dpkg, tricks s/kids/children/ |
| 22:54.23 | lunitik | !tricks |
| 22:54.23 | dpkg | tricks are for kids |
| 22:54.27 | lunitik | grrr |
| 22:54.30 | MatBoy | hehe |
| 22:54.34 | lunitik | I guess I don't know how to do that though |
| 22:54.43 | MatBoy | just try :) |
| 22:54.48 | MatBoy | !MatBoy |
| 22:54.52 | lunitik | dpkg no tricks are for children |
| 22:54.52 | dpkg | okay, lunitik |
| 22:55.03 | lunitik | !tricks |
| 22:55.04 | dpkg | from memory, tricks is for children |
| 22:55.11 | lunitik | !forget tricks |
| 22:55.15 | MatBoy | kewl ! |
| 22:55.18 | MatBoy | this is great ! |
| 22:55.33 | MatBoy | ok, now I'm going to have some !beer |
| 22:55.48 | MatBoy | real beer |
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| 22:56.17 | MatBoy | thanks lunitik !! |
| 22:56.27 | Ox0F0-0FF | !pam |
| 22:56.27 | dpkg | from memory, pam is the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 22:56.40 | lunitik | MatBoy: you're welcome, just remember to use it for USEFUL things only! |
| 22:57.01 | MatBoy | lunitik, yes of course.. but it was quiet enough to test it |
| 22:57.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | And to avoid flooding the chan with it :P |
| 22:57.33 | MatBoy | indeed ! |
| 22:57.40 | MatBoy | but I love moo ! |
| 22:57.43 | MatBoy | really moo ! |
| 22:58.07 | MatBoy | K guys ! have a nice evening ! |
| 23:00.39 | jduggan | can you install off a network |
| 23:00.46 | jduggan | like via tftp or smth |
| 23:01.26 | lunitik | jduggan: yes |
| 23:01.27 | Hotwire | jduggan: yes |
| 23:01.41 | lunitik | jduggan: grab the netinst image, and go at it |
| 23:01.49 | Hotwire | or off the harddrive so you donthave to wait for downloads during the install |
| 23:01.49 | jduggan | no no |
| 23:01.55 | jduggan | i want to boot from the network |
| 23:02.11 | lunitik | jduggan: thats not a debian thing, thats a BIOS thing |
| 23:02.15 | jduggan | the cdrom in my laptop has bust and i dont have any floppy discs :) |
| 23:02.19 | lunitik | jduggan: if your BIOS supports it, sure you can |
| 23:02.31 | jduggan | lunitik, yes my bios supports it |
| 23:02.31 | Hotwire | you can also boot the installer off the hard disk |
| 23:02.44 | Hotwire | which is probably easier to set up |
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| 23:02.48 | lunitik | jduggan: then you need to look into that |
| 23:03.02 | jduggan | hotwire, how do i boot the installer off the hard disk |
| 23:03.13 | lunitik | jduggan: or take Hotwire advise, although thats not explicity what you're asking (hence my answer) |
| 23:03.27 | Hotwire | i have written a blog post about this www.hotwire.me.uk |
| 23:03.53 | jduggan | ok, basically, i want to install debian on my laptop.. it has a bust cdrom drive and i hvae no floppy discs to do a regular network install |
| 23:03.54 | Hotwire | simple instructions are in there |
| 23:04.10 | jduggan | but i do have a running OS on it atm, and it has a bios support for boot off lan |
| 23:04.14 | jduggan | so whats my best option :) |
| 23:04.20 | lunitik | jduggan: then you want to install from Harddisk |
| 23:04.41 | jduggan | ok i will check that link then |
| 23:04.41 | jduggan | thx |
| 23:04.43 | lunitik | jduggan: I guess see Hotwire's site... although the install guide has info too |
| 23:05.12 | sciboy | Odd, i setup a reverse tunnel but i'm not able to recieve the connection |
| 23:05.16 | Hotwire | yeah, although it doesn't tell you about mounting the cd image after the installer is running, which confused me for a while |
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| 23:06.50 | jones- | hmm how come it took 75 minutes to build the kernel on a G4 1.21GHz? :/ |
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| 23:07.46 | DerJamster | jones-: buhzillions of modules enabled? |
| 23:08.02 | sciboy | 'ssh -nNT -R 28000:localhost:28000 root@remotehost' |
| 23:08.18 | jones- | DerJamster: likely |
| 23:08.22 | sciboy | Now if i understand right, after typing in my password i should recieve all connections on 28000 to remotehost right? |
| 23:08.47 | DerJamster | jones-: compiling the kernel with debian's default modules takes..ages, yes ;) |
| 23:09.02 | jones- | yeah, that's it. I took the default .config |
| 23:09.08 | DerJamster | *g* |
| 23:09.14 | DerJamster | I'd clean it a little for your hardware, really. |
| 23:09.20 | jones- | yeah but it's done now :) |
| 23:09.47 | DerJamster | And only modularize stuff you actually can remove/insert without rebooting, and stuff that won't necessarily get used after boot, like CDroms ;) |
| 23:10.16 | jones- | yeah i know, but i'm running on powerpc for the first time, and i want to play safe for a start |
| 23:10.27 | DerJamster | ahh. Okay, yeah..that's a good reason :) |
| 23:10.38 | jones- | now i'm gonna reboot and try this kernel |
| 23:10.46 | DerJamster | go go go |
| 23:10.55 | chaizzilla | heheh buhzillions is exactly the way it felt, no *wonder* knowledge workers will be back on mainframes very soon |
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| 23:13.23 | lunitik | chaizzilla: wrong channel? |
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| 23:13.42 | beetlepun_ | f |
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| 23:14.20 | sciboy | What's the usual way people block ports under linux? |
| 23:14.31 | DerJamster | sciboy: iptables |
| 23:14.34 | sciboy | Realised why my reverse tunnel wasn't working. |
| 23:14.40 | sciboy | They got the port blocked remotely. |
| 23:14.51 | sciboy | I'm not experienced with iptables. |
| 23:15.15 | DerJamster | In pretty much 99% of cases in 2.4/2.6, it's iptables that gets used. |
| 23:15.36 | DerJamster | Some distros have GUI frontends for it's configuration. |
| 23:15.39 | sciboy | Is there a quick command i could run to pop a port open? |
| 23:15.43 | DerJamster | Usually called 'firewall settings' or the like |
| 23:15.45 | DerJamster | well |
| 23:15.48 | DerJamster | that depends |
| 23:15.51 | sciboy | Or am i going to actually do research while sleep depriveD? |
| 23:15.55 | DerJamster | type iptables -L. What is the default chain INPUT policy? |
| 23:16.03 | DerJamster | ACCEPT or DROP? |
| 23:16.24 | DerJamster | it should be something like (chain INPUT polidy default blah) |
| 23:16.32 | jones- | DerJamster: damn it didn't boot! |
| 23:16.33 | DerJamster | poliCy |
| 23:16.44 | sciboy | DerJamster, Hmmm, accept. |
| 23:16.53 | jones- | DerJamster: kernel panic because VFS not able to locate root filesystem, or something like that |
| 23:17.01 | DerJamster | jones-: oh |
| 23:17.05 | sciboy | DerJamster, Well i'm trying to do a reverse tunnel via ssh, but i wasn't able to make the connection. |
| 23:17.10 | jones- | DerJamster: i wish i were using grub, but i know nothing about this yaboot, to boot powerpc |
| 23:17.11 | DerJamster | jones-: make sure the mac file sys is enabled in the kernel :) |
| 23:17.22 | jones- | DerJamster: lol, using reiserfs, enabled |
| 23:17.23 | DerJamster | jones-: and best not as a module, but integrated |
| 23:17.29 | DerJamster | jones-: ..reiserfs on the mac? |
| 23:17.35 | DerJamster | hokay. :> dunno then. |
| 23:17.39 | jones- | DerJamster: it's still linux, aint it? |
| 23:17.52 | sciboy | DerJamster, So i assumed the port is being blocked on their side. |
| 23:17.53 | DerJamster | jones-: true |
| 23:17.59 | DerJamster | sciboy: it is, probably |
| 23:18.10 | sciboy | DerJamster, But all things considering they probably running an OpenBSD firewall aswell, ey? |
| 23:18.19 | DerJamster | sciboy: ACCEPT is just the default rule in their settings if no rule that is set matches the port |
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| 23:18.33 | DerJamster | sciboy: easy way to open it..one sec.. |
| 23:18.38 | DerJamster | sciboy: port 22, right? |
| 23:18.44 | sciboy | DerJamster, Port 28000 |
| 23:18.45 | DerJamster | ah..28000 |
| 23:18.48 | DerJamster | hokay |
| 23:19.22 | DerJamster | iptables -I INPUT 1 --dport 28000 -j ACCEPT |
| 23:19.32 | DerJamster | then it should be open til next reboot |
| 23:19.50 | sciboy | iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `--dport' |
| 23:19.54 | DerJamster | ah |
| 23:19.59 | DerJamster | iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 28000 -j ACCEPT |
| 23:20.02 | DerJamster | sorry :> |
| 23:20.07 | DerJamster | forgot to specify tcp |
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| 23:20.27 | sciboy | Thanks. =) |
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| 23:20.31 | DerJamster | try now :) |
| 23:20.52 | sciboy | Connection refused, they probably have a seperate firewall. |
| 23:21.00 | DerJamster | probably a router or something, yeah. |
| 23:21.12 | sciboy | Do you know if Mac OS X comes with OpenSSH? |
| 23:21.29 | DerJamster | um..no idea if it gets installed by default |
| 23:21.40 | sciboy | May be able to convince a friend to give me access. |
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| 23:22.08 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.09 | dpkg | There is no record of a /etc/ldap/slapd.conf this returns nothing but i have installed using apt-get how can i serach which package this file belongs package |
| 23:22.24 | DerJamster | xerophyte: using testing or unstable? |
| 23:22.36 | xerophyte | testing |
| 23:22.43 | xerophyte | actually unstable |
| 23:22.45 | DerJamster | xerophyte: the files that hold the 'file -> package' index in the repositories are empty lately due to a bug |
| 23:22.48 | sciboy | Thanks DerJamster. =) |
| 23:22.50 | DerJamster | gotta wait until they fix that. |
| 23:23.00 | DerJamster | 's also the reason apt-file is screwy lately. |
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| 23:23.05 | DerJamster | sciboy: nP :> Sorry it didn't work. |
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| 23:27.38 | jduggan | Hotwire, still around? |
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| 23:30.49 | Hotwire | jduggan: yes, but i'm cooking so i'm back and for |
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| 23:31.15 | jduggan | ok, basically, your install guide.. mentioned grub for windows link.. there is no menu.lst in the windows grub |
| 23:31.19 | jduggan | and the documentation is poor |
| 23:31.30 | jduggan | any ideas? |
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| 23:35.55 | Hotwire | just look through the files until you find one that looks like a conf file if you cant find it in the docs, i dont know about windows grub sorry |
| 23:36.45 | jduggan | windows grub gives me some commands |
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| 23:39.26 | Bry2k200 | anyone around that give a bruffa a hand? |
| 23:39.37 | Bry2k200 | trying to install xchat |
| 23:39.40 | Bry2k200 | not werkin |
| 23:40.18 | iko | I installed linux-source-2.6.17, with gcc-4.1, but when I try to compile nvsound, I get compilation errors. |
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| 23:40.50 | lunitik | iko: neat? gonna make us guess what the errors are? |
| 23:41.21 | lunitik | !tell Bry2k200 about not working |
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| 23:41.48 | jduggan | Hotwire, can you check this link for me please http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/root.html#root |
| 23:41.49 | Bry2k200 | thanks |
| 23:41.50 | Bry2k200 | :) |
| 23:42.02 | Bry2k200 | tried apt-get install xchat |
| 23:42.07 | Bry2k200 | could not find package |
| 23:42.17 | jduggan | Hotwire, im supposed to set the 'root' device with grubs 'root' cmd but i dont know what i should set it to heh |
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| 23:42.22 | Bry2k200 | downloaded it, can't remember the error |
| 23:42.25 | Bry2k200 | i'll do it again |
| 23:42.50 | lunitik | Bry2k200: check your sources.list ... its in the archive :/ |
| 23:43.00 | iko | lunitik: I was planning to do that, yes: http://pastebin.ca/89221 |
| 23:43.08 | iko | lunitik: Complete log. |
| 23:43.14 | tuv | mentor, against which package? |
| 23:43.53 | lunitik | iko: how about the log it created? |
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| 23:44.13 | iko | lunitik: Uhm, that _is_ the log. |
| 23:44.23 | iko | lunitik: But it's the wrong one. (the last) |
| 23:44.37 | lunitik | iko: at the bottem of that log, it lists another... what does that one say? |
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| 23:44.47 | iko | lunitik: That is the same log |
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| 23:45.07 | Bry2k200 | •lunitik• no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 23:45.26 | lunitik | Bry2k200: also, no kernel sources |
| 23:45.38 | Bry2k200 | so how do i fix? |
| 23:45.55 | lunitik | Bry2k200: blah... wrong person |
| 23:46.07 | Bry2k200 | ya that didn't look right |
| 23:46.08 | Bry2k200 | hehe |
| 23:46.12 | Hotwire | jduggan: something like hda1 or hdb2, but that depends on what drive + partition you are installing on |
| 23:46.41 | lunitik | iko: install linux-headers (kernel-headers?) or linux-source (kernel-source?) |
| 23:46.51 | lunitik | Bry2k200: aptitude install build-essential |
| 23:47.02 | lunitik | Bry2k200: why are you compiling though? I'm confused |
| 23:47.08 | iko | lunitik: This is the log: http://pastebin.ca/89224 |
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| 23:47.28 | Bry2k200 | well i'm reading logs and readme dox |
| 23:47.35 | Bry2k200 | <-----n?x newbie |
| 23:47.47 | lunitik | iko: neat... see where it says "kernel source path : (not specified)' ? you need to fix that |
| 23:47.48 | Bry2k200 | just want xchat on me system |
| 23:47.48 | grumbel | is there any easy-to-install encrypted filesystem for debian that not only encrypts content but also directory structure (encfs and cfs don't from what I have seen) |
| 23:47.55 | Bry2k200 | can't get it goin |
| 23:48.26 | iko | lunitik: Hmm, sorry for bothering you. |
| 23:48.28 | lunitik | iko: hence install linux:kernel-hearders or -source (depends on arch for linux or kernel... sarge is kernel, else linux) |
| 23:48.45 | iko | lunitik: I already installed those, AFAIK. |
| 23:48.52 | Bry2k200 | [6:46pm] <lunitik> Bry2k200: aptitude install build-essential <--------dunno what you mean d00d |
| 23:49.17 | abrotman | !wud |
| 23:49.17 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 23:49.25 | lunitik | iko: your nvidia drivers don't know about them... maybe check .configure ? |
| 23:49.36 | lunitik | uhh configure, forget the dot |
| 23:49.40 | rvgate | stoned: ? |
| 23:49.52 | lunitik | Bry2k200: type it... same as apt-get ... doesn't matter which |
| 23:50.01 | Bry2k200 | in konsole? |
| 23:50.14 | lunitik | Bry2k200: that will provide you with an "acceptable compiler" or whatever |
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| 23:50.17 | lunitik | Bry2k200: sure |
| 23:50.21 | Bry2k200 | ok |
| 23:50.23 | lunitik | Bry2k200: as root |
| 23:50.28 | Bry2k200 | yep |
| 23:50.30 | lunitik | Bry2k200: so 'su -' first |
| 23:50.32 | stoned | yessir |
| 23:50.35 | iko | lunitik: Uhm, no, that's not important (the thing you said about kernel sources unspecified) |
| 23:50.39 | stoned | rene, gimme a minute |
| 23:50.41 | dvs | !beer stoned |
| 23:50.55 | stoned | dvs, thanks mate |
| 23:50.57 | stoned | :) |
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| 23:51.04 | iko | lunitik: It just means that one didn't give it as an argument on the command line. |
| 23:51.07 | lunitik | Bry2k200: you also probably should 'apt-get build-dep xchat' |
| 23:51.08 | Bry2k200 | command not found |
| 23:51.14 | dvs | stoned: I take it that the hang over is over |
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| 23:51.30 | stoned | dvs, oh yea, now I've got opioids, 80mg oxycontin |
| 23:51.31 | stoned | :D |
| 23:51.36 | jelly | what's wrong with Debian's xchat? |
| 23:51.42 | stoned | nothing as far as I know |
| 23:51.43 | lunitik | iko: then I don't know... ask later when more people are around |
| 23:52.01 | stoned | Bry2k200, you are trying to compile an xchat package for debian? |
| 23:52.02 | lunitik | jelly: no idea ... but apparently he can't install it there |
| 23:52.11 | Bry2k200 | •stoned• ya |
| 23:52.16 | stoned | Bry2k200, may I ask why? |
| 23:52.25 | Bry2k200 | cause it ain't there |
| 23:52.33 | abrotman | yes it is |
| 23:52.33 | Bry2k200 | sorry, xandros |
| 23:52.34 | lunitik | Bry2k200: what are the characters around your auto-completion? |
| 23:52.38 | stoned | Bry2k200, what is your sources list state |
| 23:52.38 | abrotman | right . thought so |
| 23:52.44 | abrotman | Bry2k200: go to #xandros for support |
| 23:52.46 | lunitik | Bry2k200: meh... #xandros |
| 23:52.48 | stoned | Bry2k200, please install debian or consult #xandros |
| 23:52.49 | jelly | Bry2k200: xchat is available in debian stable. |
| 23:52.50 | Bry2k200 | i did |
| 23:52.53 | Bry2k200 | no one is there |
| 23:52.56 | abrotman | tough shit |
| 23:52.58 | abrotman | go to #ubuntu |
| 23:53.00 | stoned | and thats our problem? |
| 23:53.04 | stoned | abrotman, lol |
| 23:53.04 | abrotman | erm .. #xandros :) |
| 23:53.22 | abrotman | Bry2k200: if you want to use xandros .. then please use their support .. we don't know anything about xandros |
| 23:53.32 | Bry2k200 | didn't say it was a prob, but xandros is debin based, and i'm looking for some help |
| 23:53.37 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 23:53.39 | stoned | !based on debian |
| 23:53.40 | stoned | jinx |
| 23:53.41 | abrotman | FFS |
| 23:53.41 | Bry2k200 | •abrotman• reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 23:53.47 | lunitik | Bry2k200: you're looking in the wrong place |
| 23:53.48 | stoned | btw, dpkg is fucked |
| 23:53.51 | stoned | has been for a few weeks |
| 23:53.51 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 23:53.52 | dpkg | hey |
| 23:54.00 | abrotman | stoned: no .. someone took out that one |
| 23:54.02 | stoned | listkeys shows the factoids are there |
| 23:54.13 | stoned | so I dunno if they were taken out or not |
| 23:54.45 | abrotman | ask don |
| 23:55.05 | stoned | well, the problem is, keys are listed, but there is no value |
| 23:55.36 | *** join/#debian wut (n=gimp@adsl-149-9-95.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:55.37 | lunitik | stoned: what keys are there no values for? I've been using it all day with no issue? |
| 23:55.57 | stoned | lunitik, really, show me |
| 23:57.12 | stoned | http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=based&term=key <-- stew nightly syncs dpkg with his db |
| 23:57.30 | lunitik | stoned: umm... show me a key that doesn't work :/ |
| 23:58.33 | stoned | as you can see, keys exists, without vals |
| 23:59.16 | stoned | maybe there were taken out in favor of specific distro factoids like !knoppix !ubuntu etc. |
| 23:59.56 | iko | lunitik: I see the source before me, but "/nvmain.cx:2191: e rror: expected ‘)’ before string constant |
