| 00:00.04 | lunitik | stoned: ahh... well I haven't used anything that doesn't have a key |
| 00:00.04 | iko | " doesn't make any sense. |
| 00:00.23 | stoned | anyway, movie time |
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| 00:00.37 | iko | lunitik: line 2191 is well formed (although it does call a macro) |
| 00:00.57 | iko | (which might generate garbage)? |
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| 00:01.52 | cafuego_ | With a .cx file extension that's highly likely |
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| 00:02.55 | iko | cafuego_: It has a c extension. The x is mine... |
| 00:03.01 | cafuego_ | ah :-) |
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| 00:03.13 | keram | how do you list all the storage devices plugged into ur comp? |
| 00:03.14 | cafuego_ | With nvidia, most likely the problem is an API change or missing include. |
| 00:03.38 | streuner | keram: try some grep with dmesg |
| 00:03.39 | iko | cafuego_: I think something goes wrong with the macro definition being missing. |
| 00:03.55 | iko | cafuego_: Which is consistent with what you say. |
| 00:04.05 | keram | dmesg: no such file or dir |
| 00:04.06 | jbrimble | I've set up vsftpd on my box - Is there a way I can prevent people from logging into FTP with certain account names? |
| 00:04.11 | streuner | keram: or simply just use dmesg itself |
| 00:04.13 | cafuego_ | iko: Yah, probably due to an include. rgrep /usr/include to find which one you need (often works). |
| 00:04.17 | streuner | keram: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 00:04.42 | keram | dpkg: No such file or directory |
| 00:04.48 | keram | tail: illegal option --l |
| 00:04.49 | cafuego_ | jbrimble: Yes, by tweaking what shell they have. If it's not listed in /etc/shells, they can't (nomally) ftp in. |
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| 00:05.17 | cafuego_ | keram: Try a readable font |
| 00:05.26 | keram | huh? |
| 00:05.29 | cafuego_ | keram: it's a one, not a lowercase L |
| 00:05.32 | streuner | lunitik: flood control ;-) |
| 00:05.33 | iko | cafuego_: Where can I find linux.h? locate doesn't show it. |
| 00:05.36 | keram | ohh |
| 00:05.54 | keram | hah same thing |
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| 00:06.04 | cafuego_ | iko: you'll want the kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package |
| 00:06.26 | iko | cafuego_: Ok, I did install that. I think I need to run updatedb then. |
| 00:06.41 | jelly | keram: do you have /usr/bin in your PATH? |
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| 00:06.48 | keram | i'm root |
| 00:07.03 | cafuego_ | iko: I assume you already have libc6-dev installed? |
| 00:07.10 | streuner | so what the hell are you runninig? |
| 00:07.22 | keram | err |
| 00:07.24 | keram | debian ham |
| 00:07.30 | cafuego_ | keram: What does 'cat /etc/debian_version' say? |
| 00:07.35 | cafuego_ | ham! |
| 00:07.37 | iko | cafuego_: I have |
| 00:07.37 | cafuego_ | omg! |
| 00:07.44 | lunitik | streuner: always used grep ^ii for that... tail for logs etc ... |
| 00:07.44 | cafuego_ | acid flashback! |
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| 00:07.49 | keram | huh? |
| 00:07.57 | jbrimble | What's the command that tells me how long the system has been on for? |
| 00:08.06 | streuner | cafuego_: haha |
| 00:08.08 | cafuego_ | jbrimble: uptime |
| 00:08.10 | keram | uptime |
| 00:08.12 | jbrimble | thanks |
| 00:08.18 | lunitik | streuner: unless I want to see things with other status' of course... ^rc I use a lot... |
| 00:08.21 | cafuego_ | keram: it's *massively* old :-) |
| 00:08.26 | keram | oh |
| 00:08.34 | keram | well the comp i'm running it on is massively old as well |
| 00:08.39 | keram | its like 10 yrs old, has 4MB of ram |
| 00:08.40 | labuser | I have this exact same problem, but the solution didn't help me... http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=496 ; I looked everywhere but I can't find a solution |
| 00:08.45 | keram | i wanna see how big the hd is |
| 00:08.48 | keram | but i dont know the command |
| 00:08.50 | lunitik | cafuego_: acid flashbacks aren't quite as nice, and stuff |
| 00:08.52 | labuser | I don't know what to do |
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| 00:09.08 | cafuego_ | lunitik: neither is using ham ;-) |
| 00:09.17 | iko | cafuego_: Hmm, I made a mistake. There is no kernel-headers-2.6.17 package |
| 00:09.24 | lunitik | cafuego_: I should make myself a ham sandwich |
| 00:09.36 | cafuego_ | iko: Aha, you installed yer own kernel? |
| 00:09.56 | iko | cafuego_: from linux-sources, yes. |
| 00:10.01 | iko | cafuego_: (a debian package) |
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| 00:10.28 | jelly | keram: fdisk /dev/hda (if it has an IDE disk), then p |
| 00:10.31 | ggeecko | anyone here use phpsysinfo |
| 00:10.31 | cafuego_ | iko: Then the /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build link should point at the unpacked tarball. |
| 00:10.52 | streuner | ggeecko: just ask |
| 00:10.54 | cafuego_ | iko: and in theory contain linux.h under it |
| 00:10.56 | keram | jelly, what do you mean then p? |
| 00:11.12 | keram | fdisk /dev/hda -p or something? |
| 00:11.15 | jelly | keram: p is a command in fdisk |
| 00:11.25 | keram | so fdisk p /dev/hda |
| 00:11.33 | keram | or fdisk p or wut |
| 00:11.34 | ggeecko | can someone tell he how to put apache stus in phpsysinfo |
| 00:11.39 | ggeecko | stau |
| 00:11.43 | ggeecko | status |
| 00:11.55 | jelly | keram: no. run "fdisk /dev/hda". then type p |
| 00:12.00 | cafuego_ | iko: Alternatively, linux.h is something nvidia use and forgot to include (as I can't find it on my box) |
| 00:12.02 | keram | oh ic |
| 00:12.03 | keram | thanks lol |
| 00:13.05 | iko | cafuego_: from 2.6.17 2.6.17-1-686 2.6.17-1-k7 it's a bit hard to pick the right one :( |
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| 00:13.28 | cafuego_ | iko the $(uname -r) will select the right one automagically |
| 00:13.36 | cafuego_ | iko: ... as it will match the running kernel. |
| 00:13.42 | iko | cafuego_: oh, sorry, you said that. |
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| 00:14.09 | stew | stoned: can you send me an email with a list of factoids that don't work? |
| 00:14.29 | stew | stoned: maybe then i'll remember to debug it |
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| 00:15.01 | jelly | keram: q to exit fdisk |
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| 00:15.33 | iko | cafuego_: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 34 2006-07-16 01:06 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-1-k7 |
| 00:15.34 | keram | jelly, okay it rebooted i'm trying it now |
| 00:15.49 | keram | ther is no hda |
| 00:15.51 | iko | cafuego_: that looks good |
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| 00:16.13 | bullkaka | -Serinth- DCC SEND asdf;lkafd;lajfd;lajf;lsajfd;lsakjf;lsakjf;lsafa;lkjsfa;lkjsfd |
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| 00:16.21 | jelly | keram: hm. /dev/sda maybe then |
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| 00:16.37 | keram | no not that either |
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| 00:16.40 | keram | i'm in /dev |
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| 00:17.30 | keram | and it has fd, fd0, hda - hda6, hdb - hdb6, hdc - hdc6, hdd - hdd6, kmem, mem, null, random, rtc, stderr, stdin, stdout, tty - tty5, urandom |
| 00:17.51 | iko | cafuego_: find . -name linux.h -print gives zero results. |
| 00:18.01 | cafuego_ | iko: yes |
| 00:18.01 | jelly | keram: you just said /dev/hda didn't work |
| 00:18.15 | keram | fdisk: No such file or directory |
| 00:18.32 | jelly | keram: what is PATH set to? |
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| 00:19.02 | keram | jelly, how do i check? |
| 00:19.07 | jelly | keram: echo $PATH |
| 00:19.25 | keram | /bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
| 00:20.05 | iko | cafuego_: So, I can't find linux.h.... |
| 00:20.11 | jelly | keram: you should have fdisk in /sbin . Then again you should also have dmesg and dpkg. |
| 00:20.27 | keram | ls /sbin gives me these: |
| 00:20.40 | keram | fsck.minix, halt, init, route, update, getty, ifconfig, reboot, sulogin |
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| 00:24.06 | jelly | keram: hmm. try df |
| 00:24.18 | keram | /dev/fd0 |
| 00:24.28 | jelly | keram: no, the command df |
| 00:24.33 | keram | yeah i know |
| 00:24.39 | keram | thats the only filesystem listed |
| 00:24.51 | jelly | keram: you've booted from a floppy, then. |
| 00:24.56 | keram | yeah |
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| 00:25.12 | tuv | anacron daily jobs get stuck at logrotate<defunct>, while running run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily manually goes through successfully |
| 00:26.08 | tuv | mentor, looks like it's not a run-parts thing.. unless i'm missing something. i ran run-parts manually and it went though all the way |
| 00:27.38 | iko | cafuego_: Any idea on what else I can do? |
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| 00:28.18 | jelly | keram: dunno, maybe cfdisk is available on the floppy? |
| 00:28.27 | keram | nope |
| 00:28.32 | keram | no such file or directlry |
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| 00:31.09 | keram | i want to figure out how large my hd is |
| 00:31.38 | jelly | keram: Well, since you're booting from a floppy anyway, I suggest using one from this century. |
| 00:31.43 | lunitik | keram: you don't have a live cd around with more tools on it? right now you only have whats available on the floppy... and can't expect us to guess at the contents |
| 00:32.02 | keram | theres no cd drive |
| 00:32.04 | keram | only floppy |
| 00:32.40 | lunitik | keram: I'm pretty sure it'd be easier to just open the box and see what it says for hd size :/ |
| 00:32.49 | keram | hah |
| 00:32.57 | lunitik | Especially on a system with 8MB RAM :/ |
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| 00:33.36 | jelly | keram: you can probably see disk geometry in bios. |
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| 00:34.07 | keram | no i checked |
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| 00:34.12 | lunitik | uhh... 4 MB |
| 00:34.17 | lunitik | my memory sucks |
| 00:34.29 | lunitik | keram: seriously... just go get a skrew driver |
| 00:34.39 | lunitik | keram: it'll take like 2 mins :/ |
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| 00:35.08 | keram | ugh |
| 00:35.17 | jelly | also get a vacuum cleaner |
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| 00:35.34 | keram | its a laptop |
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| 00:36.16 | lunitik | keram: umm... most laptops let you open them up (for ram upgrades, and hd upgrades) ... |
| 00:36.20 | lunitik | At least all I've seen |
| 00:36.28 | lunitik | then I didn't even know they had laptops 10 years ago |
| 00:36.30 | Coweater | open up any covers, there's like a 50% chance it's accessible on the older things |
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| 00:36.49 | rhys | lunitik, i was looking at mini ITX to build my own lappy. :D |
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| 00:36.59 | keram | well i'm not sure if its 10 yrs old exactly |
| 00:37.04 | keram | its an ibm ps/note 425c |
| 00:37.14 | Coweater | it's probably older |
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| 00:38.29 | Chase-san | ello |
| 00:40.32 | Coweater | keram: found a picture of an 80 mb drive that was pulled from one |
| 00:40.48 | keram | oh kewl |
| 00:41.09 | Chase-san | Anyone know if ther eis an alternative to man or man-db to use a different database such as mysql |
| 00:41.17 | Coweater | i doubt yours would be more than 200 mb for sure |
| 00:41.23 | keram | woa |
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| 00:41.26 | keram | what about the processor? |
| 00:41.38 | keram | 30MHz? |
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| 00:43.52 | jelly | keram: a google group search suggests it's a 486/25 |
| 00:44.23 | Coweater | yeah, wath i found on a forum just now |
| 00:44.26 | evilgeek | that's probably more like 13 or 14 years old. |
| 00:44.43 | evilgeek | (ie/ IBM has probably dropped support for it by now.) |
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| 00:45.30 | jelly | evilgeek: IBM doesn't even make PCs any more. ;-) |
| 00:45.58 | beetlepun_ | is there a flag to dpkg or apt- to prevent a post script from firing ? |
| 00:46.15 | rhys | jelly, i have 2 ibm 300xl PCs. :D one is running my IPcop install, and running a friends IPcop install |
| 00:47.27 | jelly | rhys: yeah, my thinkpad also says ibm but Lenovo made it. |
| 00:48.09 | rhys | heh. lenevo makes them now. mine was made by IBM. 300mhz max 32mb EDO-NP ram |
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| 00:48.27 | lunitik | On Windows... |
| 00:48.51 | rhys | lunitik, can Cygwin? |
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| 00:49.17 | lunitik | rhys: yes |
| 00:49.43 | lunitik | rhys: I already pointed him in that direction, but he ignored that... |
| 00:49.43 | jelly | rhys: cygwin is already slow itself, running kde apps would be a painful exercise |
| 00:50.13 | omi | Are there any other free packages like webmin, except they are more useful? |
| 00:50.25 | rhys | jelly, i would expect so. i dont like running KDE apps more than i have to |
| 00:50.35 | Chase-san | so, no ideas on db |
| 00:50.48 | rhys | though Arson is nice. anyone know a better front end for cdrecord and cdrdao? |
| 00:50.58 | lunitik | rhys: as native too: http://x.cygwin.com/ |
| 00:51.12 | omi | in the sense of not just being a front-end configuration editor, but more task-oriented configurator |
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| 00:51.31 | Chase-san | windows is good for the inexperienced computer user |
| 00:51.45 | shogunx | no its not. its good for encouraging slavery. |
| 00:51.45 | Chase-san | but thats about it |
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| 00:51.56 | keram | yeah its 486 |
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| 00:52.26 | lunitik | rhys: this looks funny... hah (note though it is as native as an X port gets) http://x.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygx-xdmcp-kde3.1-20031224-0010.png |
| 00:52.30 | rhys | shogunx, seriously. cut your hair, and go get trashed instead of going to another FSF meeting. :D |
| 00:52.33 | rhys | windows does have its place |
| 00:52.44 | Chase-san | I won't get into the linux vs windows discussion |
| 00:52.52 | lunitik | rhys: why they're using Kicker, not entirely sure though |
| 00:52.53 | Chase-san | but thats my personal opinion |
| 00:52.58 | shogunx | rhys in the garbage is its place. and i'll keep my dreadlocks and beard, thank you. |
| 00:53.33 | rhys | heh. and im telling you that with a goatee and curly hair halfway to my shoulders. |
| 00:54.42 | shogunx | if this was #windows-is-i-guess, then that discussion MIGHT be approprite. this is #debian |
| 00:55.07 | jelly | lunitik: that's remote x (xdmcp). |
| 00:55.18 | lunitik | jelly: no its not |
| 00:55.23 | Chase-san | personally I would never want to run x on windows |
| 00:55.29 | lunitik | jelly: note URL |
| 00:55.59 | lunitik | jelly: why would x.cygwin.com list xdmcp things? |
| 00:56.12 | rhys | jelly. speaking of which. I have this computer in front of me. there is a computer beside me, full monitor and keybaord and such. basicly i want to send one of my x terminals to the other computers monitor. |
| 00:56.29 | lunitik | rhys: rdesktop |
| 00:56.34 | lunitik | rhys: or vnc |
| 00:56.50 | lunitik | (depending what OS the others use...) |
| 00:57.08 | rhys | lunitik, with everything (processes, keyboard, mouse) on this compuiter, just send the display to the other monitor |
| 00:57.09 | lunitik | There are Windows VNC servers and clients but meh |
| 00:57.20 | rhys | lunitik, its running debian HPPA. |
| 00:57.24 | evilgeek | lunitik: because it's cygwin, and cygwin is nuts. |
| 00:57.26 | jelly | rhys: there was an app for that ... synergy? |
| 00:57.29 | rhys | its a 100mhz box, with 144mb ram. |
| 00:57.40 | rhys | it sucks. but it has a 19 inch beautiful color monitor |
| 00:57.46 | rhys | synergy |
| 00:57.47 | rhys | ill check that |
| 00:57.55 | evilgeek | it's half-broken, but i can appreciate that it's about as good as can be done. |
| 00:58.06 | jelly | rhys: something with an s, I can't remember. |
| 00:58.12 | lunitik | evilgeek: its a port of Xfree86 to Windows (XWin) and KDE ... its just running Kicker so is misleading... the apps are as native though |
| 00:58.46 | lunitik | evilgeek: http://x.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygx-multiwindow-emacs-exitconfirm-20031224-0010.png better example? |
| 00:59.00 | rhys | jelly, i was looking at freeNX. they have a nice server for X compression |
| 00:59.30 | jelly | lunitik: to show it's possible to use a cygwin/x as a X terminal. |
| 01:00.44 | lunitik | jelly: "Cygwin/X logged into a Debian Linux machine running KDE 3.1 via XDMCP." I stand corrected... doh |
| 01:01.23 | evilgeek | lunitik: cygwin is still totally nuts. |
| 01:01.35 | lunitik | evilgeek: hah... yes |
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| 01:01.58 | lunitik | evilgeek: I'd install it on any Windows machine I was forced to use (if I could) though |
| 01:02.20 | rhys | jelly, synergy is close. but that problem is, the one box, i dont want to use its processor. its slow. i just want to send my processes to its screen |
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| 01:06.10 | jelly | rhys: if you have a trusted network, you can enable TCP connections to X server on the slow machine then use xhost to enable access and set DISPLAY to that machine |
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| 01:06.57 | jelly | rhys: X11Forward with ssh is another possibility but ssh uses the cpu. |
| 01:07.03 | rhys | jelly, can i run 2 xservers? |
| 01:08.02 | jelly | rhys: maybe, why? Is someone else logged in there? |
| 01:08.07 | rhys | jelly, if i use xfowarding i think i can use FreeNX, which is a pair of servers that nearly wipe out the massive bandwith used by fowarding X. at least i think i can. its used for "nomachine" which is like LTSP. |
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| 01:08.48 | rhys | jelly, no, more i simply thought it would be easier if everything from tty7 went to monitor1, and everything from tty6 went to monitor2 |
| 01:09.06 | rhys | instead of having to run "xchat DISPLAY:host:0 |
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| 01:11.08 | vivek | hello all, I have a standard debian install. I installed ssh. but ssh username@192.168.1.xxx from a local ip is not working " Permission denied (gssapi,publickey," even with the right password. How do i go about fixing this ? |
| 01:12.00 | zinx | vivek: is "username" "root"? |
| 01:12.10 | zinx | though, i think debian doesn't deny root by default |
| 01:12.15 | vivek | zinx: no |
| 01:12.26 | zinx | vivek: check /var/log/auth.log |
| 01:12.26 | vivek | zinx: its a normal user |
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| 01:13.34 | vivek | there is no auth.log ... do i need to turn on logging or something ? |
| 01:14.31 | zinx | uhm, it should be there by default on the debian system |
| 01:14.49 | zinx | if the machine you're ssh'ing in to isn't debian.. that's another issue :/ |
| 01:15.13 | Coweater | how can i tell if hyperthreading is being used? |
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| 01:15.26 | vivek | zinx: it is a debian machine ... but i am not using a debian machine to access the same ... |
| 01:15.41 | jelly | Coweater: you'd have more cpus in /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 01:16.30 | IrCShAdY | Hi ALL |
| 01:16.32 | jelly | Coweater: a SMP kernel is required. |
| 01:16.35 | Coweater | what if i don't? it does have the ht flag in there and i'm running the smp kernel |
| 01:16.55 | jelly | Coweater: then ht is not enabled. |
| 01:17.31 | Coweater | so the chips capable and my board is retarded? (there's no setting in bios i'm sure) |
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| 01:18.58 | jelly | Coweater: dunno, I have an option in bios. |
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| 01:19.51 | Coweater | i'll double check but i'm pretty sure i saw nothing of the sort, somewhat older board i think |
| 01:19.54 | vivek | zinx: there is only one line |
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| 01:20.06 | vivek | there seems to be noting about ssh sessions |
| 01:20.16 | jelly | Coweater: does it work in windows? |
| 01:20.21 | zinx | vivek: weird |
| 01:20.38 | Coweater | i'm not gonna waste time finding out |
| 01:20.46 | vivek | zinx: I am terribly sorry i tried to chcek out my laptop instead of the server .... but still only one line is on the debian server |
| 01:20.48 | zinx | vivek: sshd *definitely* writes to auth.log on a stock debian system |
| 01:20.49 | vivek | :( |
| 01:21.27 | Coweater | pretty sure it's just an older board, no big deal, was just going to enable it if i could, thanks for the info |
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| 01:29.56 | Lord_Athur | hi all, is there a website where I could find information about different linux distributions? |
| 01:30.26 | amphi | distrowatch.org |
| 01:31.02 | Lord_Athur | thanks |
| 01:32.55 | cafuego_ | !info mythtv etch |
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| 01:42.50 | Lord_Athur | hi all, is there a website where I could find information about different linux LIVE distributions? |
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| 01:43.36 | m0dY | Lord_Athur: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php |
| 01:43.44 | Lord_Athur | thanks a lot |
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| 01:44.49 | ttyfscker | can someone here help me with this problem that is likely to be unfixable atm? i have a Logitech Quickcam notebook pro with the usb ID 046d:08c3.. I have had no luck with pwc, usbcam, quickcam, or any of the other drivers that are thought of to work. I find it very troublesome to switch to winXP to just do a video conference, and buying a different camera is not in question.. can anyone help? |
| 01:44.52 | m0dY | :) |
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| 01:45.33 | zinx | ttyfscker: i have a feeling you'll have to describe "no luck" better |
| 01:45.41 | floydwilde | exit |
| 01:45.56 | ttyfscker | zinx, the kernel doesnt recognize the webcam.. |
| 01:46.40 | w00t- | zinx linux suck for a workstation |
| 01:46.43 | w00t- | is for a server |
| 01:46.44 | keram | how do you unzip a .tgz file? |
| 01:47.28 | vivek | w00t-: yeah right ... and you are the same on a linux channel ;) you--> belong to #m$ |
| 01:47.30 | zinx | w00t-: *shrug*, works fine for me as a workstation |
| 01:47.42 | zinx | w00t-: people need different things |
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| 01:48.01 | w00t- | zinx for me is a server |
| 01:48.05 | w00t- | on my lappy |
| 01:48.31 | ttyfscker | linux works fine as a desktop especially if you compare it to 5 yrs ago |
| 01:48.48 | rhys | linux is awesome for damn near everything |
| 01:48.48 | vivek | is there any ssh server that i can try on debian ... this is getting terribly messy. I am going to school in 12 hours and i don't have ssh working :( |
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| 01:49.17 | rhys | what is that song..."Everythijng you can do i can Better!!" |
| 01:49.18 | ttyfscker | it might be hard to get certain hardware support for linux.. such as with my webcam.. but as far as compatability issues these days.. its almost ruled out.. most things work for linux |
| 01:49.24 | rhys | well |
| 01:49.26 | rhys | speaking of webcam |
| 01:49.32 | rhys | how do you unload a module? |
| 01:49.34 | freakzoid0223 | as a workstation it works just fine for G Lucas ILM |
| 01:49.42 | ttyfscker | rmmod modname |
| 01:49.47 | rhys | shit. more information per line. :\ |
| 01:49.50 | ttyfscker | or modprobe -r modname |
| 01:49.53 | rhys | ty ttyfscker |
| 01:50.04 | ttyfscker | no problem |
| 01:51.07 | rhys | ttyfscker, intel webcam pro, uses SPCA5xx |
| 01:51.11 | rhys | so im figureing how to install them |
| 01:51.57 | vivek | zinx: i have the new log ... sshd says failed password for invalid user ... why is ssh username@192.168.1.xx skippng the ssh section ... osx seems to do something funny ... |
| 01:53.40 | ttyfscker | rhys, i have tried spca5xx as well.. it doesnt work either |
| 01:53.59 | IrCShAdY | there r any room for debian FR |
| 01:54.01 | IrCShAdY | ? |
| 01:54.22 | Coweater | !fr |
| 01:54.22 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr (irc.debian.org). People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr (irc.debian.org) |
| 01:54.47 | zinx | vivek: No idea. |
| 01:55.07 | zinx | vivek: keep in mind that user names are case sensitive |
| 01:55.16 | zinx | vivek: beyond that, i dunno.. make sure the user exists :/ |
| 01:55.37 | IrCShAdY | merci Coweater |
| 01:55.57 | vivek | zinx: the username is not being transmitted by osx!!! its sending the default user |
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| 01:56.17 | zinx | vivek: well, that would be an OS X issue :/ |
| 01:56.45 | zinx | vivek: try -u, though. beyond that, you'll probably want to find a OS X support channel/forum/whatever, or call up apple |
| 01:58.38 | rhys | KICKASS!@! |
| 01:58.49 | rhys | in the best cartman way, Kickass!!! |
| 01:58.50 | rhys | :D |
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| 02:02.23 | cafuego_ | zinx: -l |
| 02:02.33 | zinx | cafuego_: :X |
| 02:02.46 | zinx | -l it is |
| 02:03.56 | cafuego_ | Mind you, ssh user@host works fine on OSX here |
| 02:04.01 | rhys | i wonder.. if i turn on a light |
| 02:04.21 | seventhprince | hi, am using debian etch on gnome 2.14.2 I could not receive my gmail mails from both Thunderbird n Evolution after a new install of etch. However my company emails are able to be received under Thunderbird. I have done several times Exim4 configuration by using dpkg-config exim4-configuration. but results are still the same. Previously I was able to receive gmail emails in Thunderbird. thanks. |
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| 02:06.31 | liable | hrm, nothing in /topic about new exploit |
| 02:06.38 | rockstar_ | How can I find the resolution my desktop is running at? |
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| 02:07.36 | rhys | liable, speaking of whcih. saw that on slashdot. is it bad? |
| 02:07.49 | rhys | liable, less i mean bad, more i mean, serious and pretaining to me. :) |
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| 02:08.13 | hatezilla | if i went with some unstable packages, whats the easiest way to get all my packages back to stable...especially if i don't have a record of what i installed/upgraded from unstable? |
| 02:08.40 | aredhel | rockstar_, xdpyinfo |grep dimensions |
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| 02:12.53 | liable | rhys: if you have users with local access which you cant trust, they could get root |
| 02:13.28 | rhys | liable, local, as in local keyboard? |
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| 02:13.36 | rhys | or local network? |
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| 02:14.12 | rhys | in either case im safe. im the only one in the house who knows how to use a computer or a network, plus the golf club by the door to my room. :D |
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| 02:15.04 | liable | rhys: well, any access really, if they have an account, they can use the exploit |
| 02:15.45 | wut | winamp skins are compatible with xmms right? |
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| 02:16.01 | zinx | wut: winamp 2.x skins, yes |
| 02:16.06 | rhys | liable, that is huge. |
| 02:16.29 | rhys | but im still the only user. no server processes, nothing on this box, nor my other debian box. |
| 02:16.56 | hatezilla | nobody knows how? google is not helping |
| 02:17.34 | jelly | hatezilla: the easiest way is to reinstall. |
| 02:17.55 | rhys | hatezilla, dpkg doesnt really support down grading |
| 02:18.01 | hatezilla | im using apt-get |
| 02:18.03 | rhys | as i saw, its not planned either |
| 02:18.13 | hatezilla | urgh |
| 02:18.17 | rhys | hatezilla, apt-get is a frontend for dpkg. :\ |
| 02:18.19 | hatezilla | yea |
| 02:18.21 | hatezilla | sorry |
| 02:18.42 | seventhprince | hi, anyone knows the configuration for MTA- EXim4 in order to enable Thunderbird email client to use gmail accounts. Thanks. |
| 02:19.14 | De_Mon | how is this even remotely debian related? |
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| 02:19.46 | rhys | De_Mon, debian uses Exim as default, so why wouldnt it be debian related? |
| 02:20.02 | rhys | seventhprince, gmail does have pop3 access right? |
| 02:20.17 | rhys | if it does, you dont really need to use a MTA. |
| 02:20.18 | zinx | it has pop3-ssl access |
| 02:20.30 | rhys | gmail has both pop3 and smtp servers. why use Exim? |
| 02:20.52 | vivek | my /var/log/auth.log says Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed .. |
| 02:21.02 | vivek | when i try to ssh into the debian machine ... |
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| 02:21.22 | seventhprince | rhys> yes and previously under debian etch, i was able to receive gmail emails with thunderbird email client. when i did a new CD and network install of etch, now my etch can't retrieve gmail mails. |
| 02:21.25 | vivek | but i have to manually start sshd on the debian machine to even get that to log ... (every time ..) |
| 02:21.33 | zinx | vivek: eh, that means something is already running on port 22 |
| 02:21.43 | zinx | vivek: how fast is the machine? |
| 02:21.57 | vivek | zinx: the debian machine is a 2ghz one |
| 02:22.03 | seventhprince | however i can still use my corporate email account with thunderbird with this new install of etch |
| 02:22.06 | zinx | dunno then :/ |
| 02:22.24 | vivek | can i check what's using whatport ? |
| 02:22.30 | zinx | netstat -natuwp or so |
| 02:23.07 | jelly | seventhprince: btw this is a Thunderbird issue, MTA does have much with retrieving mails from a pop3 account. |
| 02:23.14 | jelly | doesn't |
| 02:23.15 | vivek | my whole debian config seems to revoleve around 0.0.0.0 :( |
| 02:23.27 | seventhprince | rhys> does the exim4 configurations during etch install have anything to do with my gmail access from thunderbird? |
| 02:23.34 | vivek | holly crap ... this whole install is lame ... |
| 02:24.01 | vivek | can i use the packages in the debian system to reinstall the whole thing without getting it all form the internet ? |
| 02:24.26 | liable | seventhprince: no. recheck your server settings in thunderbird |
| 02:24.29 | De_Mon | if you already have the packaegs, there is no need to download them again... |
| 02:24.58 | rhys | seventhprince, do you understand anything about mail? |
| 02:25.03 | vivek | De_Mon: so how do i reinstall debian ? i can't format the drive with the packages ... |
| 02:25.25 | seventhprince | liable> have done that and the settings are the same as before. Current error message is 'Connection to server pop.gmail.com timed out' |
| 02:25.54 | seventhprince | rhys> have some understanding on emails but not much on MTA and exim4 |
| 02:25.59 | De_Mon | vivek skip that step? make sure you're packages are somewhere safe and rm -rf everything else |
| 02:26.01 | seventhprince | have done some readings on exim4 |
| 02:26.38 | De_Mon | I haven't used the new installer so I can't give step by step directions |
| 02:27.42 | rhys | seventhprince, why dont you just set thunderbird to the pop3 server on gmail, and the smtp server on gmail. then it works. |
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| 02:28.06 | rhys | mail transfer agent, is just a SMTP server. google provides one. why not just set thunderbird to that? |
| 02:29.40 | seventhprince | rhys> have done that and still on this configuration for thunderbird. strange that i can't receive my gmail mails still |
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| 02:30.36 | rhys | have you check firewalls seventhprince ? |
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| 02:31.08 | TeePeeDee | anyone know a channel or network that has excel help ? |
| 02:31.23 | jelly | seventhprince: well, exim doesn't have anything to do with receiving mail via pop3. |
| 02:31.33 | seventhprince | rhys> am not using any firewall on etch. and i have not done any configurations for security settings for etch |
| 02:32.10 | seventhprince | jelly> i have done all i could and am just looking at the MTA; maybe it got something to do with it. :) |
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| 02:33.06 | jelly | seventhprince: can you do "telnet pop.gmail.com pop3s" from the command line? |
| 02:33.18 | seventhprince | rhys, jelly> the strangest of all is that with a new FreeBSD on my another home pc, i also encountered the same problem. |
| 02:33.26 | rhys | seventhprince, exim is (i thought) just a SMTP server. as in, all it does is send mail. |
| 02:33.35 | rhys | it has nothing to do with recieving from a pop3 server |
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| 02:33.59 | rhys | seventhprince, then i would look at your connection. check jellys advice |
| 02:34.44 | seventhprince | i got this message: |
| 02:35.25 | jelly | If it said "Connected to ..." among other stuff, it worked. |
| 02:35.53 | seventhprince | Trying xx.xxx.xx.xx... Connected to gmail-pop.l.google.com |
| 02:35.59 | jelly | seventhprince: press ctrl-] q <enter> to exit telnet |
| 02:37.01 | jelly | seventhprince: enable SSL for pop3 in your mail client, if there as option like "use legacy port for ssl pop3" enable that too. |
| 02:37.38 | seventhprince | jelly> can't seem to exit from telnet |
| 02:38.42 | jelly | ctrl + ] should get you to the telnet> prompt, then type q there |
| 02:38.58 | jelly | seventhprince: or do pkill telnet from another term |
| 02:39.05 | seventhprince | thanks jelly |
| 02:40.34 | rhys | IrCShAdY, donate 1k$ to the FSF. you get plenty of love, specially in here. :D |
| 02:40.42 | IrCShAdY | Sorry |
| 02:40.44 | seventhprince | jelly>usually i use TS(if aviallable) setting for gmail under thunderbird and it worked well previously. now under all 3settings TLS, TLS(if available) and SSL , gmail still fails |
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| 02:41.44 | seventhprince | jelly> or does installing openPGP /enigmail in thunderbird cause all these problems? |
| 02:42.53 | jelly | seventhprince: it seems gmail doesn't have TLS on the normal pop3 port at present. Try SSL. If there's an option to specify port, type 995 if it's not default. |
| 02:43.19 | seventhprince | jelly> strangest of all, i could still use my company email account under thundbird on my etch laptop. |
| 02:43.21 | jelly | seventhprince: enigmail shouldn't be an issue but who knows |
| 02:43.33 | jelly | seventhprince: maybe gmail changed something. |
| 02:44.06 | seventhprince | normally TLS (if avialable) works for gmail pop accounts |
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| 02:47.33 | jelly | seventhprince: I don't think it'll work now as there is no normal pop3 service open at pop.gmail.com |
| 02:48.04 | jelly | seventhprince: TLS works over the normal pop3 port. It's not available (any more?). |
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| 02:49.28 | seventhprince | jelly> confirmed that gmail has discontinue pop3 services? :( |
| 02:49.35 | teknoprep | ? |
| 02:49.37 | teknoprep | are you serious? |
| 02:50.07 | teknoprep | no way |
| 02:50.11 | teknoprep | i just looked into my settings |
| 02:50.15 | teknoprep | pop3 is still there |
| 02:50.37 | zinx | i grabbed mail quite recently |
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| 02:50.53 | seventhprince | teknoprep> can u still grab gmail mails under email clients? |
| 02:51.06 | jelly | seventhprince: did you try SSL? |
| 02:51.08 | teknoprep | seventhprince: i will check later |
| 02:51.12 | teknoprep | seventhprince: you must use SSL |
| 02:51.35 | teknoprep | seventhprince: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=12103 |
| 02:53.00 | seventhprince | teknoprep> thanks |
| 02:53.54 | etrask | mmmm... python |
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| 02:56.19 | seventhprince | got it, problem traced to new port settings 995 for thunderbird 1.5 and ssl settings. thanks jelly, teknoprep, rhys and everyone. long live debian! |
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| 02:56.58 | teknoprep | ? |
| 02:57.01 | teknoprep | sure |
| 02:57.07 | seventhprince | yups |
| 02:57.26 | teknoprep | debian is one of the better linux distros |
| 02:57.35 | teknoprep | i dunno why it hasn't caught on mainstream like redhat |
| 02:57.38 | teknoprep | redhat is crap |
| 02:57.39 | etrask | "one of the better"... for shame! :P |
| 02:57.41 | teknoprep | rpm is crap |
| 02:57.47 | etrask | agreed |
| 02:57.55 | teknoprep | i don't put any linux distro on a pedestal |
| 02:57.59 | teknoprep | i am a solaris bsd fan |
| 02:58.00 | jelly | redhat is commercially supported |
| 02:58.13 | teknoprep | i like a more pure unix variant |
| 02:58.20 | etrask | is http://www.trashmail.net down for you guys? |
| 02:58.58 | teknoprep | looks like it |
| 02:59.24 | seventhprince | thinks debian should step up on the publicity drive |
| 02:59.29 | etrask | okay... my internet has been crappin' out lately... as long as it's not me =D |
| 02:59.45 | seventhprince | most thinks of debian as redhat, ubuntu |
| 02:59.57 | seventhprince | typo |
| 03:00.07 | seventhprince | most thinks of linux distro as redhat |
| 03:00.33 | etrask | doesn't debian bill itself as more of a totally different OS, running on the Linux kernel? |
| 03:00.37 | etrask | not really a linux distro, per se |
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| 03:03.41 | wakejagr | the kernel-image packages did change to linux-image so that other kernel options can be added (hurd i assume) - but debian is still a linux distro |
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| 03:06.08 | abrotman | bsd also |
| 03:06.24 | abrotman | debian has a few kernels that can be used with it |
| 03:07.17 | wakejagr | abrotman: have you ever run one of the others? |
| 03:08.54 | abrotman | not in a long time |
| 03:08.58 | dbw | pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppěo |
| 03:09.15 | dbw | ;MNBZC V |
| 03:09.22 | etrask | I love you, dbw. |
| 03:09.24 | dbw | SORRY |
| 03:09.30 | dbw | cat on keyboard |
| 03:09.36 | freakzoid0223 | lol |
| 03:09.37 | amphi | heh |
| 03:09.37 | dbw | (meow) |
| 03:09.38 | abrotman | sure |
| 03:09.48 | Clujo | small paw |
| 03:09.59 | dbw | http://ereb.us/data/images/people/layla/Raf%20A750003.JPG |
| 03:10.06 | dbw | new kitten :) |
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| 03:10.46 | dbw | she managed to turn on caps lock and change my kb layout.... |
| 03:10.57 | p0t | whats a lightweight torrent client |
| 03:11.07 | dbw | btdownloadcurses |
| 03:11.16 | dbw | in package bittorrent i think |
| 03:11.50 | amphi | p0t: rtorrent perhaps |
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| 03:12.45 | stoned | man |
| 03:12.48 | stoned | I can't dig cats like that |
| 03:12.57 | stoned | too skinny |
| 03:13.03 | stoned | I like the persian tabby |
| 03:13.10 | stoned | fluffy hairball |
| 03:13.32 | dabreegster | Longhairs! |
| 03:13.32 | stoned | I have two of em, one is called Megatron and the other is called Optimus Prime |
| 03:13.35 | stoned | yes I know, I'm weird |
| 03:13.55 | stoned | optimus prime ran underneath the house one time, took me 3 days to find him |
| 03:14.29 | abrotman | should have sent Scout |
| 03:14.31 | abrotman | or Hound |
| 03:14.40 | rhys | ...you named your cat after transformers?! |
| 03:14.40 | rhys | stoned, i absolutly love you. :D |
| 03:15.03 | stoned | hell yeah dude |
| 03:15.41 | stoned | rhys, so long as its a a merel platonic love |
| 03:15.45 | stoned | mere* |
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| 03:16.29 | etrask | There was an actor in Plan 9 From Outer Space named "Dudley Manlove" |
| 03:16.37 | rhys | stoned, on CS:S i am Rhys_Teh_Rapist. :) |
| 03:16.40 | etrask | ... stoned/rhys reminded me of the name... sorry :P |
| 03:16.56 | stoned | ugh, disturbing |
| 03:16.59 | rhys | but i grew up with the transformers. all the way into the computer generated "beast wars" series. |
| 03:17.13 | abrotman | noone got Hound ? you're all fucking fired |
| 03:17.24 | stoned | have you seen the transformers movie trialer |
| 03:17.27 | stoned | FUCKING SWEEEET! |
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| 03:19.02 | stoned | abrotman, apparantly no one cares about Hound |
| 03:19.03 | stoned | :) |
| 03:19.05 | abrotman | if you actually liked transformers .. you'd know Hound |
| 03:19.55 | rhys | movie? |
| 03:20.25 | abrotman | see |
| 03:20.33 | stoned | brb |
| 03:21.24 | rhys | i know the movie is coming out.. |
| 03:21.26 | rhys | but :\ |
| 03:21.38 | etrask | I want to watch Snakes on a Plane |
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| 03:22.25 | joeyjones | dbw: why does that cat not have an ear? |
| 03:23.15 | vivek_ | where does debian store all the files it downloads during an install ? i want to replace what i have got into that directory ... |
| 03:23.33 | abrotman | /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 03:23.34 | dabreegster | /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 03:23.43 | dabreegster | That's where apt's package files always are. |
| 03:23.57 | vivek_ | abrotman: i can't find the apt directory ... maybe it will be created during install tnx |
| 03:24.49 | vivek_ | its fetching apt so i think the installer creats the folder after it gets apt ;) |
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| 03:31.27 | politik | can bash do context-sensitive tab completion? like you type man <tab> and it lists man pages? |
| 03:32.11 | jetscreamer | don't think so |
| 03:32.22 | jetscreamer | unless you were in a dir with the proggies |
| 03:32.25 | amphi | politik: there's a bash_completion script that does some of that |
| 03:32.38 | amphi | politik: otherwise, try zsh |
| 03:33.09 | amphi | politik: FWIW, there's also a dict script for irssi that lets you complete every word ;) |
| 03:33.16 | politik | orly |
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| 03:33.28 | amphi | orly? |
| 03:33.46 | politik | thats interweb for "oh really" |
| 03:34.03 | amphi | not where I'm from |
| 03:34.12 | politik | usually accompanied by a picture of an owl with big eyes |
| 03:34.17 | amphi | ugh |
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| 03:34.32 | politik | http://www.orlyowl.com |
| 03:34.54 | amphi | no thanks ;) anyway, it's not going to do much in w3m |
| 03:36.04 | politik | I was wanting to write a tab completion thing for bash to do predictive completion like browsers do |
| 03:36.15 | politik | but I'm guessing bash isn't extensible like that |
| 03:37.04 | jetscreamer | they parse a history/record |
| 03:37.05 | politik | at work I use svn and the paths get excessive |
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| 03:38.05 | vivek | amphi: what's the script called ? |
| 03:38.19 | amphi | vivek: /etc/bash_completion |
| 03:38.39 | vivek | amphi: hmmz from the dict ? |
| 03:39.25 | amphi | vivek: oh, the irssi one? dictcomplete.pl - you can find it at irssi.org |
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| 03:43.16 | rhys | can everyone get the smiley face on http://ravenous.homelinux.net ? |
| 03:43.53 | amphi | rhys: is that a request? |
| 03:44.30 | abrotman | spammer! |
| 03:44.48 | rhys | amphi, in a way. a test |
| 03:45.01 | amphi | rhys: post it on /. |
| 03:45.27 | rhys | im testing to see if that works |
| 03:45.44 | politik | rhys: it doesn't appear to be working for me, unless it is quite slow |
| 03:45.50 | abrotman | ask your friends |
| 03:46.27 | liable | rhys: your dns is screwed |
| 03:47.12 | unix_infidel | anyone know how i can increase the amount of time before the LCD shuts off in /etc/acpi? |
| 03:47.38 | amphi | unix_infidel: xset in X |
| 03:47.40 | abrotman | xset |
| 03:48.04 | unix_infidel | so it will only shut off when in X/ |
| 03:48.44 | amphi | unix_infidel: setterm in console |
| 03:49.30 | amphi | unix_infidel: I assume that xset overrides setterm when X has seized the display |
| 03:49.51 | amphi | unix_infidel: ie. I haven't tested it ;) |
| 03:50.25 | unix_infidel | amphi: lol. |
| 03:50.29 | unix_infidel | how can i set dpms in xorg.conf? |
| 03:50.37 | unix_infidel | or do just issue it in .xinitrc? |
| 03:50.59 | amphi | unix_infidel: you could stick an xset command in ~/.xsession |
| 03:51.27 | unix_infidel | hmmm, it seems setterm only has a range of 60s |
| 03:51.33 | politik | amphi: hm I seem to have /etc/bash_completion, how do I enable it |
| 03:51.35 | unix_infidel | that sucks. |
| 03:51.41 | etrask | The internet is a series of tubes. |
| 03:51.45 | amphi | politik: you . it, I believe |
| 03:52.07 | amphi | etrask: yeah, someone said that to me a couple of days ago |
| 03:52.40 | etrask | Did they "send you an internet"? |
| 03:52.40 | amphi | unix_infidel: what timeout did you want? |
| 03:52.48 | amphi | etrask: no :( |
| 03:52.51 | etrask | haha |
| 03:52.56 | unix_infidel | 5 minutes or so. |
| 03:53.06 | etrask | Sen. Ted Stevens, I think it was, said this |
| 03:53.16 | unix_infidel | ahh, nvm its in minutes. |
| 03:53.16 | unix_infidel | my bad. |
| 03:53.27 | amphi | heh |
| 03:53.29 | etrask | "A staff member sent me an internet and it took several days for it to me... because of all the commercial activity on it!" |
| 03:53.41 | amphi | etrask: oh, really? excellent news |
| 03:53.48 | etrask | funny stuff |
| 03:53.50 | etrask | http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/03/how-the-internet-works-by-ted-stevens/ |
| 03:53.52 | etrask | there ya go |
| 03:53.57 | amphi | etrask: oh, not the thing about the tubes |
| 03:54.08 | etrask | it's all from the same place :P |
| 03:54.17 | amphi | etrask: what a joy! thanks ;) |
| 03:54.24 | etrask | no sweat |
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| 03:54.32 | etrask | And now you know... the REST of the story. |
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| 03:55.01 | amphi | etrask: yeah - I was quite impressed with the 'series of tubes' remark, although it was unattributed |
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| 03:55.20 | etrask | It shows a level of understanding that I hope to one day achieve |
| 03:55.53 | etrask | Maybe he confused the internet with those pressurized tubes they use to send things around in big buildings |
| 03:56.33 | amphi | etrask: mind you, Stevens in his 'TCP/IP Ilustrated' has a section on 'long fat pipes'; perhaps that confused the worthy senator |
| 03:56.42 | etrask | hahahah |
| 03:57.41 | etrask | good ol' W Richard Stevens |
| 03:58.21 | unix_infidel | http://www.linux.com/howtos/Battery-Powered/powersav.shtml |
| 03:58.22 | amphi | I wonder what he'd make of Maurice Bach's remark that '... the page stealer will thrash about the threshold' |
| 03:58.27 | unix_infidel | amphi: ^^^ if you care enough to add to dpkg. |
| 04:02.02 | rockstar_ | Does the fglrx driver work in x.org 7? |
| 04:04.35 | rhys | how do i make ls give me just full paths of every file in a directory"? |
| 04:05.50 | cafuego_ | for i in *; do test -f "$i" && echo "$(pwd)/$i"; done |
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| 04:06.58 | Gnea | rhys: find ${PWD} -ls -maxdepth 1 |
| 04:07.32 | Gnea | find ${PWD} -ls -maxdepth 1 | awk '{print $11}' |
| 04:07.42 | Gnea | ^^ if you only want the names with the full paths |
| 04:08.02 | cafuego_ | Gnea: -type f |
| 04:08.12 | cafuego_ | Gnea: Otherwise it also lists dirs. |
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| 04:08.25 | Gnea | cafuego_: good point |
| 04:08.36 | Gnea | find ${PWD} -type f -ls -maxdepth 1 | awk '{print $11}' |
| 04:08.37 | rhys | -lsf? |
| 04:08.41 | rhys | -type f |
| 04:08.42 | rhys | ok then |
| 04:08.50 | cafuego_ | or use my for loop |
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| 04:09.06 | Jaw2028 | FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, F |
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| 04:09.19 | cafuego_ | Self-reflective spam, how touching. |
| 04:09.28 | politik | chahming |
| 04:09.38 | Gnea | ~ops *!*@ppp-69-223-155-157.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net is spamming again: 00:02 < Jaw2028> FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK |
| 04:09.40 | apt | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: *!*@ppp-69-223-155-157.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net is spamming again: 00:02 < Jaw2028> FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, FUCK, CUNT, ... |
| 04:09.58 | cafuego_ | Jaw2028: What are you hoping to accomplish? |
| 04:10.03 | cafuego_ | aww |
| 04:10.20 | Gnea | cafuego_: he's trying to get his whole area k-lined from freenode |
| 04:10.32 | freakzoid0223 | looking like an a$$ would be my guess |
| 04:10.41 | cafuego_ | Gnea: I'm sure there are more effective ways, I could've helped him ;-) |
| 04:10.44 | Gnea | it's an SBC dsl account, all he has to do is reboot and get a new ip and do it all over again |
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| 04:12.43 | abrotman | he did it the othe roday too |
| 04:12.45 | abrotman | other day |
| 04:13.04 | Gnea | he's been doing it all week |
| 04:13.10 | freakzoid0223 | ok I'm currently installing sarge on my desktop which has a radeon 9800pro (R350) do I pick ati for my server driver? |
| 04:13.24 | abrotman | well .. since he keeps using the same nick and realname .... |
| 04:13.27 | Gnea | !radeon |
| 04:13.27 | dpkg | [radeon] the name of some videocards by ATI. There are different types: R100 chipset (e.g radeon VE,SDR,DDR,LE,7000,7200), R200 (e.g. radeon 8500,8500LE,8800), R250 (e.g. radeon 9000) and R300 (e.g. radeon 9700,9700pro). Use the 'radeon' xfree86 driver, for 3d accel with a r200 use driver from dri.sf.net CVS or ATI own (closed-source) fireGL driver. r250/r300 not yet supported, or http://www.reades.com/radeon.html |
| 04:13.39 | cafuego_ | That should do for now (2d) but you'll want fglrx later. |
| 04:13.54 | Gnea | !fglrx |
| 04:13.54 | dpkg | fglrx is, like, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 04:14.16 | freakzoid0223 | ahh ok thanks |
| 04:14.23 | Gnea | anytime |
| 04:14.47 | freakzoid0223 | on more thing Bus identifier? |
| 04:14.54 | cafuego_ | just hit return, like it says |
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| 04:16.26 | rockstar_ | freakzoid0223, I'm stuck on fglrx again as well. I am pretty familiar with fglrx, and yet still, I can't seem to get the driver installer going here. |
| 04:19.49 | etrask | <3 Bzip2 |
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| 04:21.20 | jair_11 | hello guys if I am using irssi and I want to receive a package from the IRC for example a picture or a pdf file where it will be storage on the irssi? |
| 04:21.34 | jair_11 | if I am using irssi to chat in irc. |
| 04:21.35 | Gnea | jair_11: probably your homedir |
| 04:21.51 | Gnea | jair_11: wherever /cd says |
| 04:21.58 | jair_11 | Gnea: hmm I probably should check the conf file of irssi |
| 04:22.18 | wakejagr | jair_11: i think that's a setting in the ~/.irssi/config file. i'd ask #irssi for more specific info |
| 04:22.40 | Gnea | i could be wrong :) |
| 04:22.43 | jair_11 | Gnea: wakejagr ok I will check thanks |
| 04:23.01 | jair_11 | Gnea: you may, I will check and bring the real answer and correct one ;) |
| 04:23.10 | Gnea | cool |
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| 04:26.40 | politik | anyone do work with subversion? |
| 04:27.09 | cafuego_ | a wee bit |
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| 04:27.56 | politik | I'd like to have a "user filesystem" that transparently checked out files when I modify them, and otherwise leaves them in the repository and streams them as necessary |
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| 04:28.17 | cafuego_ | I'm sure there's an fuser plugin that can do it for you. |
| 04:28.27 | cafuego_ | s/fuser/thingie-fs |
| 04:28.51 | politik | thingie-fs? |
| 04:29.07 | politik | you mean something using fuse? |
| 04:29.08 | cafuego_ | userspace fs |
| 04:29.10 | cafuego_ | yes |
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| 04:29.41 | politik | thats what I was hoping |
| 04:30.13 | politik | but I haven't found one |
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| 04:39.19 | grendal_prime | hey guys, |
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| 04:42.35 | jair_11 | what exactly means joarnalist system on the Linux ? ext2 or ext3? |
| 04:42.53 | jair_11 | what is the good thing of it? I will start exploring LVM as well. |
| 04:43.21 | SerajewelKS | okay, small problem here. (windows related, too) i reinstalled xp (no sp) with a +137gb drive installed. when xp rebooted, it scanned an ntfs volume on that drive and made same changes. probably nuking the fs in the process. are there any linux utilities that can recover the fs to a reasonable degree? xp won't even touch it now. |
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| 04:44.28 | SerajewelKS | chkdsk hangs when scanning |
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| 04:45.07 | stoned | hi |
| 04:45.22 | stoned | I had to turn the movie off half way, it is a dumb freaking movie. Don't ever watch Dark Harvest |
| 04:45.59 | grendal_prime | ok new install, testing with kde running k3d (cd burning app that works totally kick ass.) but for some reason the setup app is unable to ...well setup the permissions that it wants. |
| 04:45.59 | grendal_prime | anyone else run into this? |
| 04:46.03 | stoned | anyway, apt file isn't showing me anything, and I am trying to find out which package in unstable provides "xfce-settings-show" binary. I tried searching package contents on packages.debian.org but I still ddin't get any results |
| 04:46.11 | stoned | could anyone kindly help me find the package |
| 04:46.22 | SerajewelKS | thank god this isn't my box, but still |
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| 04:46.59 | zero-1 | how can i convert a .daa into an iso |
| 04:47.01 | zero-1 | ? |
| 04:47.15 | stoned | hmm, is that a poweriso image? |
| 04:47.27 | zero-1 | I guess so |
| 04:47.31 | stoned | I had a few of those, and I was unable to find a utility for conversion |
| 04:47.31 | zero-1 | yes I think so |
| 04:47.38 | zero-1 | oh :( |
| 04:47.52 | stoned | if you come across one, memo me if I'm not online, I could also use it |
| 04:48.23 | stoned | I don't know, not quite sure, but does cdemu mount those? |
| 04:48.25 | stoned | !cdemu |
| 04:48.27 | dpkg | CDemu is a kernel module for Linux. It is designed to simulate a CD drive + CD with just simple cue/bin files. You can use it to watch an SVCD or mount the data track of an bin/cue. You should use mplayer to watch SVCD movies stored as cue/bin file, it also supports it. http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:48.33 | stoned | oh nm, it doesn't |
| 04:49.46 | stoned | is there some problem with apt-file, because its updated, and apt-file search xfce4-setting-show return snothing |
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| 04:52.02 | stoned | is anyone around? |
| 04:52.20 | jelly | no |
| 04:52.22 | dabreegster | Yes. |
| 04:52.36 | stoned | well could anyone kindly help me find the package which contains that executable |
| 04:54.42 | stoned | i'll give you candy if you help me out :D |
| 04:54.49 | stoned | everyone loves candy right? |
| 04:55.04 | dabreegster | I'm not trusting strangers! |
| 04:55.11 | stoned | lol |
| 04:55.38 | liable | xfce4-mcs-manager (dpkg -S) |
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| 04:55.58 | stoned | you know |
| 04:56.00 | liable | strangely apt-file doesnt find it here either |
| 04:56.04 | stoned | I didn't even think of reading info on dpkg |
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| 04:57.06 | stoned | liable, thank you |
| 04:57.20 | liable | no worries |
| 04:57.29 | stoned | you're the man, man |
| 04:57.35 | stoned | well, unless you're a woman |
| 04:57.48 | liable | heh, nah, i am a man :) |
| 04:57.52 | stoned | word |
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| 04:58.26 | stoned | liable, remember all my gtk2 fonts got fucked and no matter what I couldn't fix the anti-aliasing on it |
| 04:58.53 | liable | stoned: dont remeber actually, i normally tune out to font problems :) |
| 04:59.11 | stoned | well, instead of installing gnome-control-center or some shit, I just ran the xfce-setting-show binary in ~/.xsession and now when kde starts up, both my fonts in qt/gtk2 are the same and look beautiful once again |
| 04:59.40 | stoned | liable, hmm, well you actually tried to help me out with it a few days ago |
| 04:59.47 | i3dmaster | there are some pkgs showed up in the apt-get upgrade everytime where they didn't really get upgraded from any higher versions. what's the problem with them? |
| 05:00.13 | liable | oh, cool. must have killed those brain cells with beer last night :) |
| 05:00.25 | stoned | haha, yeah, I got piss ass drunk last night |
| 05:00.33 | stoned | celebrating my new job |
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| 05:00.55 | dabreegster | stoned: You work at HP now? |
| 05:00.56 | stoned | i3dmaster, could you paste your log |
| 05:01.00 | dabreegster | stoned: No, wait, Dell, right? |
| 05:01.03 | liable | i3dmaster: paste the output somewhere |
| 05:01.03 | stoned | dabreegster, no, yes |
| 05:01.12 | stoned | !paster i3dmaster |
| 05:01.12 | dpkg | i3dmaster: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 05:01.29 | i3dmaster | stoned, liable, what output? the apt-get upgrade? |
| 05:01.34 | liable | yes |
| 05:01.36 | stoned | i3dmaster, yes |
| 05:01.37 | i3dmaster | ok |
| 05:01.47 | stoned | i'll let liable handle it, i'll go work on my box :) |
| 05:02.01 | smacnay | is there an issue with iptables 1.3.3 and the latest (2.6.16 and above) kernels? Seems iptables 1.3.5 is needed for apps like shorewall. |
| 05:03.01 | joeyjones | how would i make a cronjob to change a pass? |
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| 05:03.27 | i3dmaster | which channel should I pick or it doesn't matter? |
| 05:03.51 | i3dmaster | liable, ? |
| 05:04.01 | liable | i3dmaster: use a pastebot or #flood |
| 05:04.07 | i3dmaster | k |
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| 05:05.41 | i3dmaster | liable, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3151 |
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| 05:05.53 | jelly | joeyjones: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:06.05 | i3dmaster | liable, those are the three that will be in the upgrade list everytime |
| 05:06.39 | liable | i3dmaster: and they dont actually get installed? |
| 05:06.57 | i3dmaster | liable, they do. and you see there is no version difference |
| 05:07.03 | liable | oh, heh, they are the same version.. |
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| 05:07.29 | i3dmaster | liable, ya.. I almost feel that they didn't get marked as installed or something... why they keep get installed |
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| 05:08.17 | PORDO | here's the new voting system that debian should use instead of Schulze method. http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUGKIgoQga3F58Eh |
| 05:08.50 | liable | i3dmaster: you have backports or something? |
| 05:09.11 | i3dmaster | liable, let me check... in sources.list file right? |
| 05:09.30 | liable | yeah |
| 05:09.34 | i3dmaster | no |
| 05:10.03 | i3dmaster | just checked. I've only had testing, unstable and experimental |
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| 05:12.20 | liable | i3dmaster: apt-cache policy those packages |
| 05:14.38 | i3dmaster | liable, ok |
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| 05:16.28 | Tojik | Hello everyone, I have a problem in installation. Can you help me? |
| 05:16.32 | i3dmaster | liable, http://channels.debian.net/paste/3152 |
| 05:16.44 | pinky | What's a tool I can use to take two MP4 files (video is H.264) and join them? |
| 05:17.26 | cafuego_ | downloaded a 2 disc vcd did we? ;-) |
| 05:17.56 | Tojik | It says that cannot find -lperl. What should I do? |
| 05:18.04 | cafuego_ | install libperl(-dev) |
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| 05:18.47 | Tojik | cafuego, thanks a lot |
| 05:18.52 | jelly | what hardware vcd player can reproduce a h264 stream? |
| 05:19.08 | pinky | cafuego_: I believe VCDs use MPEG-1 audio/video (MPEG-1 Layer 3 as audio, or MP3, to be precise), certainly not MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) and AAC audio. |
| 05:19.31 | pinky | jelly: exactly =] |
| 05:19.36 | rockstar_ | How can I tell debian not to install enlightenment from apt? |
| 05:20.01 | liable | i3dmaster: i dont know |
| 05:20.08 | pinky | But I'm looking for a tool to join two MPEG-4 files (H.264 video and AAC audio). |
| 05:20.27 | pinky | Does anyone know of something that can accomplish this job? |
| 05:20.44 | i3dmaster | liable, you know I just thought it might be something related to the preferences file... Im going to run some tests. I had a preference for testing with 990. |
| 05:20.58 | seeds | pinky maybe u can try cat |
| 05:21.40 | Tojik | pinky, I know that Virtual Dub and TMPEG enc. do such a job in Windows |
| 05:21.54 | dabreegster | pinky: There are tons of things. The h.264 video codec is kind of new, so you might need some library for that. Try mencoder, it's very flexible. |
| 05:22.17 | pinky | Right, well I don't need to do any encoding. |
| 05:22.34 | rockstar_ | pinky, Take a look at kino. |
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| 05:23.04 | dabreegster | pinky: Just -oac copy and -ovc copy, then specify both files. (I don't think you'd need a special option for that) |
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| 05:23.36 | dabreegster | pinky: It won't real do any re-encoding since you're just copying streams. But this probably depends upon the streams to be of similar resolution, bitrate, sound frequency, etc. |
| 05:23.47 | pinky | They are =] |
| 05:23.47 | Tojik | I am the first day in Debian so please explain me how to install packages |
| 05:23.55 | pinky | It's a 2CD rip... and I'd like to join them. |
| 05:23.59 | i3dmaster | liable, no. doesn't help. noticed that unstable has a higher version but it wouldn't get installed via upgrade or dist-upgrade, I have to explicitly specify the version to install |
| 05:24.06 | i3dmaster | its a weird problem. |
| 05:24.15 | pinky | But I guess I need to research mencoder's command line options. |
| 05:24.41 | dabreegster | pinky: mencoder foo.mpg bar.mpg -oac copy -ovc copy -o out.mpg # It's somewhere to start |
| 05:24.47 | grendal_prime | Tojik, you have a desktop? |
| 05:24.54 | dabreegster | pinky: The manpage is hideously long, learn as you go. |
| 05:25.04 | Tojik | grebdal_prime, yes |
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| 05:25.09 | liable | i3dmaster: have you tried installing them, and then try upgrade again? |
| 05:25.18 | grendal_prime | fire up a terminal window and run aptitude |
| 05:25.24 | pinky | dabgreegster: Hehe, okay. I'll get there eventually for sure, I just need to do this one operating right now. Thanks. |
| 05:25.51 | jelly | pinky: there's also #mplayer |
| 05:25.55 | Tojik | grendal_prime, apt? |
| 05:26.09 | i3dmaster | liable, oh ya.. everything that I can possibly think of... I've been fighting with this weird thing for days |
| 05:27.53 | rockstar_ | Can I put a hold on a package from apt? |
| 05:27.56 | i3dmaster | liable, firefox and thunderbird have gone for now since I upgraded to a higher version, but sysvinit is still there since there isn't a new version for that. Guess I have to live with it everytime |
| 05:28.05 | liable | rockstar_: /msg dpkg hold |
| 05:28.30 | i3dmaster | rockstar_, I was thinking do that actually... you can do echo "pkg hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 05:28.41 | liable | i3dmaster: i cant think of why it would do it either. :( |
| 05:29.07 | i3dmaster | liable, ya I know. keep upgrading to a same version... |
| 05:30.19 | liable | pinky: try avidemux, its similar to virtualdub for windows |
| 05:30.36 | pinky | liable: Ah, can it handle H.264/AAC streams? |
| 05:30.48 | liable | pinky: dunno actually |
| 05:32.43 | liable | pinky: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:33.16 | liable | looks like 264 is supported, but experimental |
| 05:33.24 | liable | same with aac |
| 05:33.28 | grendal_prime | no Tojik aptitude |
| 05:33.35 | grendal_prime | type aptitude |
| 05:33.47 | pinky | liable: well I don't really want to encode anyting, just decode two identical streams (same res, bitrate, etc.) and join them.. |
| 05:33.52 | grendal_prime | in a terminal window..."command prompt" if your a windows person |
| 05:34.13 | liable | pinky: it can do that, it supports splitting, so i am sure it can join.. |
| 05:34.14 | grendal_prime | and then after you type aptitude hit enter |
| 05:34.41 | liable | !reference |
| 05:34.41 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 05:34.57 | liable | Tojik: ^^ read it, its quite a good doc for newbs |
| 05:35.05 | section31 | is there a compact server edition of debian like ubuntu has thats only like 400 megs instead of having to download 2 dvds |
| 05:35.27 | liable | section31: just get the net-installer, then install what you want |
| 05:36.05 | grendal_prime | 2dvds? jesus...ya do the net, or download the first to Cd's |
| 05:36.41 | grendal_prime | the stuff gets updated daily it seems..if you want fresh applications, you do not want to be downloading new images every day.. |
| 05:37.19 | pinky | liable: Hmm, avidemux is not in Debian? |
| 05:37.32 | liable | pinky: its available from marillat |
| 05:37.33 | section31 | liable, ok i'll try that |
| 05:38.35 | pinky | liable: Ahh, figures =] |
| 05:40.22 | rockstar_ | For some reason fglrx-driver has no installation candidate in apt... *sigh* |
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| 05:41.22 | liable | pinky: actually ffmpeg can do it two :) |
| 05:41.48 | seeds | ffmpeg is good |
| 05:42.19 | liable | s/two/too/ |
| 05:43.12 | pinky | Hah, nice, there's an ffmpeg-theora package specifically to encode other formats to Theora. |
| 05:43.13 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrr this damn k3b issue is pissing me right the fk off |
| 05:43.15 | pinky | That's cool =D |
| 05:43.29 | rockstar_ | grendal_prime, What's going on? |
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| 05:44.17 | grendal_prime | that damn window about permissions pops up and asks me if i want to run k3bsetup i tell it yes, it tells mewhat it wants to change i tell it ok..but it aparently does not fix it |
| 05:44.53 | liable | grendal_prime: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord |
| 05:47.22 | grendal_prime | well that fixed part of it |
| 05:47.39 | grendal_prime | cdrdao will be run without root privileges |
| 05:47.39 | grendal_prime | It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process. |
| 05:47.39 | grendal_prime | Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem. |
| 05:48.18 | liable | dpkg-reconfigure cdrdao |
| 05:48.58 | i3dmaster | liable, another question. I made a pkg with version 3.0-1 and the old version is 2.2r2-3, but when I do upgrade, apt is going to upgrade from 3.0-1 to 2.2r2-3. anything wrong with the version number? |
| 05:49.25 | grendal_prime | it did nothing special and still comes up with the same problem |
| 05:50.35 | liable | i3dmaster: not that i can see. put it on hold. though if you want to really find out, read the nm guide and policy docs |
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| 05:52.41 | i3dmaster | liable, ok thanks |
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| 06:00.59 | p0t | whats a good debian-administration guide online? |
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| 06:01.40 | streuner | what's that? |
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| 06:02.22 | streuner | there are man-pages, there are HOWTOS |
| 06:02.35 | GatorBlade | hello |
| 06:02.42 | liable | p0t: try the debian-administration site, lots of stuff there |
| 06:03.05 | p0t | liable, yea im looking at it now .... im gonna install dns for fun |
| 06:03.28 | GatorBlade | it is fun.:) |
| 06:03.56 | liable | p0t: wow, you need a better hobby :P |
| 06:04.14 | p0t | liable, you tell me what fun is |
| 06:04.15 | streuner | heh |
| 06:04.19 | stoned | liable, no actually learning from first hand experience and experimenting is good |
| 06:04.19 | p0t | if dns is not fun idk what is |
| 06:04.35 | streuner | p0t: don't listen to him much, he has the same hobby ;-) |
| 06:04.41 | p0t | i just need it to point to my router |
| 06:05.00 | p0t | im sure ( he does sit here all day) |
| 06:05.14 | stoned | p0t, and we are thankful for that |
| 06:05.38 | GatorBlade | btw, got any exp with networking |
| 06:05.40 | p0t | me too |
| 06:05.50 | p0t | group hug? |
| 06:05.55 | liable | !aw |
| 06:05.59 | liable | !aww |
| 06:06.00 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
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| 06:10.33 | p0t | according to nmap i dont have a lan |
| 06:10.42 | m1ke_l | nice security |
| 06:11.02 | p0t | Nmap finished: 256 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 20.374 seconds |
| 06:11.12 | m1ke_l | just installed sid, then apt-get xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core, but x wont start, complains about no fonts |
| 06:11.13 | p0t | m1ke_l, its not called security |
| 06:11.15 | m1ke_l | what did i miss? |
| 06:11.43 | p0t | nothing.. debian doesnt respond to ping on default? |
| 06:11.52 | bartm | m1ke_l: any specific error messages? |
| 06:12.05 | m1ke_l | well, ive screwed it up now i think |
| 06:12.10 | m1ke_l | hang on |
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| 06:13.40 | m1ke_l | crap....me no like...starting over....tomorow....good night. |
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| 06:14.23 | bartm | p0t: here pings are ok, never did anything to make that work, so debian pings by default I guess :) |
| 06:14.56 | p0t | bartm, im not sure what you mean |
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| 06:15.31 | bartm | p0t: you wrote "debian doesnt respond to ping on default?", I commented |
| 06:15.36 | liable | ugh, its 4pm and i dont feel like a berr yet, must have over done it last night |
| 06:15.40 | stoned | argh! |
| 06:15.41 | stoned | !ping |
| 06:15.41 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:15.56 | p0t | bartm, ah |
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| 06:16.28 | coywolf | how to select a file randomly |
| 06:17.08 | bartm | coywolf: what is selecting a file randomly? |
| 06:18.04 | coywolf | baroni, like from /foo/* |
| 06:18.10 | coywolf | bartm, ^ |
| 06:18.21 | coywolf | bartm, select one from /foo/* |
| 06:18.28 | bartm | coywolf: and what do you mean by "select"? |
| 06:18.48 | coywolf | bartm, like i have mplayer foo/* |
| 06:18.51 | tc | hi, some body can help me, please? after last "apt-get upgrade", my gnome and some software got a display problem, can not display complete text, you can see this screenshot, the document's names, http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1414/screenshot3lp4.png , thanks |
| 06:19.02 | coywolf | bartm, i want to play in random |
| 06:19.04 | dabreegster | coywolf: ls /usr/share/ | rl | head -1 |
| 06:19.20 | dabreegster | coywolf: Take away the head if you want all. |
| 06:19.21 | coywolf | dabreegster, rl? |
| 06:19.27 | p0t | ok i got dns running good |
| 06:19.35 | p0t | i didnt even have to read any docs |
| 06:19.35 | dabreegster | coywolf: randomize lines. Might be in a package, lemme check. |
| 06:19.39 | coywolf | dabreegster, from which packge |
| 06:19.50 | dabreegster | coywolf: randomize-lines |
| 06:19.50 | coywolf | !rl |
| 06:19.51 | dpkg | i guess rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm). Conways game using only rational numbers |
| 06:20.06 | dabreegster | dpkg: rl is also randomize-lines |
| 06:20.07 | dpkg | dabreegster: okay |
| 06:20.48 | coywolf | dabreegster, thanks |
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| 06:22.50 | p0t | # ping router |
| 06:22.50 | p0t | PING router (192.168.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 06:22.58 | p0t | cool huh |
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| 06:23.19 | threat | hey |
| 06:23.34 | threat | is there any c++ wrapper for a curses library? |
| 06:24.47 | tc | hi, some body can help me, please? after last "apt-get upgrade", my gnome and some software got a display problem, can not display complete text, you can see this screenshot, the document's names, http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1414/screenshot3lp4.png , thanks |
| 06:25.43 | rockstar_ | How can I get a vanillla xorg.conf file? I moved the edited one and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it didn't create a new xorg.conf |
| 06:25.58 | bartm | tc: it's not clear to me what the problem is |
| 06:26.23 | EdLin | rockstar_: running Sarge (Stable)? |
| 06:26.43 | p0t | tc, hey those graphs on the top right are nice |
| 06:26.46 | p0t | what are they called? |
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| 06:27.19 | pperez | Hello everyone. |
| 06:27.34 | pperez | I am trying to understand, who create the /boot/abi-* files? |
| 06:28.04 | pperez | How can I create my own /boot/abi-kernel-version file when I compile my own kernel |
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| 06:28.18 | pperez | I have search the docs, but I have come up empty up to this point |
| 06:28.24 | rockstar_ | EdLin, actually, a sid/etch hybrid |
| 06:28.26 | pperez | Any pointers would be greatly appreciated |
| 06:28.30 | rockstar_ | Mostly etch. |
| 06:29.40 | EdLin | rockstar_: OK, then my canned "its not xorg.conf" response isn't warrented. Actually, to come to think of it, if you delete a file, Debian's debconf system assumes you don't want a new one. |
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| 06:31.48 | tc | bartm, can you notice the files' name??? it doesnt show the names completly, i have to move mouse to see that. |
| 06:32.04 | tc | p0t, thanks, hehe |
| 06:32.20 | EdLin | !tell rockstar_ about xmd5 |
| 06:33.16 | EdLin | rockstar_: follow these instructions (substituting "xorg.conf") after placing your hand-edited xorg.conf back in /etc/X11 |
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| 06:43.58 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:43.59 | dpkg | [qotd32] <Sarvok> So i've just typed "dpkg-reconfigure kevix's" and it's the same thing : the bash have a line started with ">" and that all ! |
| 06:45.16 | crazy_penguin | a good morning to all! |
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| 06:52.37 | PORDO | why does debian use the schuze method ? |
| 06:52.42 | PORDO | schulze |
| 06:52.55 | PORDO | it is flawed. you can't deterministically determine a winner in the case of a condorcet ambiguity. |
| 06:54.38 | rockstar_ | crazy_penguin, It's not morning here yet... --:o) |
| 06:54.47 | Gnea | PORDO: the 'schulze' method? |
| 06:55.02 | Gnea | PORDO: can you be anymore vague? |
| 06:55.45 | PORDO | the voting system debian uses. |
| 06:56.00 | PORDO | it's a condorcet voting method. |
| 06:57.17 | bartm | PORDO: you may want to discuss that on http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/ |
| 06:57.48 | Gnea | PORDO: it's flawed how? |
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| 07:02.43 | basanta | my kingston datatraveller fails to automount |
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| 07:06.19 | evilgeek | Gnea: i do not think he was being vague. |
| 07:06.29 | cafuego_ | he's just on the wrong channel |
| 07:07.16 | evilgeek | is he? |
| 07:07.24 | cafuego_ | kinda |
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| 07:07.35 | cafuego_ | the voting method issue is more of a policy thing |
| 07:07.51 | Thunderguy | Hey has anyone had a problem recently on Debian Testing with burning CD's or is it just me? |
| 07:07.51 | cafuego_ | whereas this channel is more of a support thing |
| 07:08.05 | cafuego_ | Thunderguy: exactly |
| 07:08.12 | Thunderguy | cafuego_: Just me? |
| 07:08.25 | cafuego_ | Thunderguy: Nah, you helped me illustrate my point ;-) |
| 07:08.34 | bartm | lol |
| 07:08.38 | Thunderguy | cafuego_: What was your point btw? |
| 07:08.55 | cafuego_ | Thunderguy: This is more of a debian support than a debian policy channel |
| 07:09.18 | evilgeek | cafuego_: is there a better channel for that sort of discussion, though? |
| 07:09.56 | cafuego_ | evilgeek: Not really, which is probably why bartm mentioned the lists |
| 07:10.09 | Thunderguy | cafuego_: Oh yeah, I realize it's a debian support, so I was wondering if I was the only one having problems so then I know if I need support >.> |
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| 07:10.15 | evilgeek | mailing lists are a fundamentally different medium, though. oh well. |
| 07:10.36 | cafuego_ | Thunderguy: I'm not on testing, sorry... |
| 07:11.39 | Thunderguy | Well is anyone on testing generally having a problem writing cd's? I know I was able to write them in other distro's ( Gentoo ) in much the same way which just doesn't seem to be working on Debian |
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| 07:12.49 | bartm | Thunderguy: can you be more specific? any error messages? |
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| 07:17.52 | Thunderguy | Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? |
| 07:18.43 | liable | dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord |
| 07:19.19 | Thunderguy | wow that's cool liable, it never asked me that before! |
| 07:19.32 | Thunderguy | and now that I reconfigure, it does o-o |
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| 07:21.12 | bartm | Thunderguy: what is "o-o" ? |
| 07:21.25 | Thunderguy | My penguin eyes |
| 07:21.40 | bartm | ? |
| 07:22.17 | Thunderguy | Yeah I was amazed at how easy that was, I suppose I could have just looked at /etc and configured it and I just didn't think of it |
| 07:22.36 | Thunderguy | I would have done that seriously :( I'm just really really tired and shouldn't even be online |
| 07:22.39 | Thunderguy | Goodnight |
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| 07:28.36 | ttyfscker | anybody here good with v4l? |
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| 07:30.49 | sleon|tuX | hi |
| 07:30.59 | sleon|tuX | how can i convert files in mailtext format to maildir? |
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| 07:46.04 | threat | quick question, does ./configure generate all Makefiles? |
| 07:46.05 | threat | I changed my CXXFLAG env var, I do another ./configure but it hasn't updated the CXXFLAGS in each Makefile |
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| 07:52.01 | ttyfscker | i cant find anywhere else to ask this question so I'll ask here since im using debian.. i have asked in the appropriate chans but no answers.. i have a webcam that I need to get working on a flash based video chat server.. I have the webcam working with ekiga as a v4l2 device. however in the flash program it detects the device as USB Video Device, yet it doesnt capture anything from the camera. is there some other module i can load |
| 07:52.01 | ttyfscker | that will make apps think its a v4l1 device? i do have v4l1_compat loaded |
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| 07:55.40 | Eclipser | how the hell do I disable tapclicking on my touchpad in xorg |
| 07:55.48 | Eclipser | I'm getting very annoyed because of it |
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| 07:59.10 | dorel__ | whats the difference between the linux-source and linux-headers packages? |
| 08:00.06 | bartm | dorel__: see "apt-cache show packagename" |
| 08:00.08 | streuner | first is the complete source-code of linux itself, headers are only those files you need to compile for example third party driver |
| 08:00.20 | [TACO] | such as nvidia |
| 08:00.37 | nima | Eclipser, set Option "MaxTapTime" "x" where x is something besides 0 |
| 08:00.39 | [TACO] | m-a prepare <- that would get everything you needed if its a packaged kernel |
| 08:00.46 | [TACO] | otherwise it should find it |
| 08:01.05 | nima | Eclipser, in Section "InputDevice" |
| 08:01.14 | insmod | streuner: i that header where what makes up the diff between your kernel versions layout and the src |
| 08:01.20 | Eclipser | nima, I'll take a look, thanks |
| 08:01.31 | insmod | s/that/thaught |
| 08:02.47 | streuner | rephrase that question again |
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| 08:03.57 | sleon|tuX | how can i convert mbox to maildir? |
| 08:04.07 | streuner | !maildir |
| 08:04.07 | dpkg | a one-message-per-file mailbox format used by qmail and supported by mutt; see http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/maildir.html or k-rad, or runs you out of inodes when you have more than 60,000 mails, or Linux doesn't have 16-bit inode numbers, duh DJB's one good idea. supported by postfix, exim etc. and several final delivery / filtering programs such as maildrop and procmail as well as imap servers including courier-imap, dovecot or cyrus. |
| 08:04.24 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys maildir |
| 08:04.26 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'maildir' by key (6): _default mbox2maildir ;; _default maildir ;; maildir ;; exim maildir ;; #debian maildir ;; mbox2maildir. |
| 08:04.47 | streuner | sleon: /msg dpkg mbox2maildir |
| 08:04.51 | nima | Eclipser, works it? |
| 08:04.58 | Eclipser | nima, not really, no |
| 08:05.00 | sleon|tuX | streuner, :| |
| 08:05.06 | nima | :-P |
| 08:05.08 | sleon|tuX | streuner, is there any laternatie? |
| 08:05.13 | sleon|tuX | streuner, mb2md is horrible! |
| 08:05.48 | sleon|tuX | can i do it with formail and procmail ? |
| 08:05.50 | nima | Eclipser, take a look at the synaptics manpage, see if you can find anything |
| 08:05.51 | streuner | no idea, just google |
| 08:06.05 | sleon|tuX | google shows nothing |
| 08:06.05 | sleon|tuX | :| |
| 08:06.08 | sleon|tuX | or only mb2md |
| 08:06.38 | Eclipser | xorg log says Synaptics DeviceOff called |
| 08:07.04 | nima | Eclipser, pastebin your config file |
| 08:07.55 | Eclipser | nima, http://eclipser.no-ip.org/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:09.11 | nima | is there TouchpadOff anywhere in your config file? |
| 08:09.13 | nima | not your log |
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| 08:09.55 | nima | Eclipser, ^^^ |
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| 08:10.19 | Eclipser | let me see |
| 08:10.28 | man_in_shack | are there any tutorials on how to build debian packages from configure/make sourceballs? |
| 08:10.28 | Eclipser | o.O |
| 08:10.41 | sleon|tuX | are there already 2.6.17.6 kernel packages ? |
| 08:10.41 | Eclipser | I just noticed that there's two mice sections here |
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| 08:11.26 | nima | Eclipser, one for touchpad, one for a mouse you plug in? |
| 08:11.33 | Eclipser | yeah |
| 08:11.42 | Eclipser | MaxTapTime "1" seems to work |
| 08:12.22 | nima | cool :-) |
| 08:12.26 | Eclipser | thanks a lot |
| 08:12.36 | nima | isnt that really short, though? |
| 08:12.50 | Eclipser | 1 millisecond tap time, I think I can never do that :) |
| 08:12.58 | Eclipser | -> it's kind of disabled |
| 08:13.19 | nima | :-P |
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| 08:20.18 | possie | anyone know if there is a nice statistics gathering tool for postgrey? |
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| 08:27.53 | Paras | channel, I have one package compiled before in my old etch which has libc6 2.3.5-6. Now i have libc6 2.3.6-7 and the pacakage doesnot run. any way to run it in my new system? |
| 08:28.19 | Gnea | Paras: recompile it |
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| 08:29.29 | Paras | Gnea, yes . but just wanted to know is it possbile without recompiling? |
| 08:30.04 | Gnea | Paras: set the dependancy to >= 2.3.6-7 instead of = 2.3.5-6 |
| 08:30.26 | Paras | Gnea, how to do it? |
| 08:30.44 | Gnea | Paras: you did it before, and you don't know? |
| 08:30.50 | Gnea | i think you have to edit a control file |
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| 08:31.01 | Paras | Gnea, ok |
| 08:31.09 | p0t | one of my users isnt allowed to write to the hd how do i change that? |
| 08:31.21 | syntaxx | when i try to surf my apache to my another pc with same network it gives me the router config and not showing my apache how to fix that? |
| 08:31.27 | [TACO] | p0t: even /home/theirusername/ ? |
| 08:31.44 | [TACO] | syntaxis_: bad ip address? |
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| 08:32.02 | p0t | [TACO], nope |
| 08:32.12 | [TACO] | what address |
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| 08:33.11 | Eulex | p0t, ls -ald ~? (as that user) |
| 08:33.29 | p0t | drwxr-xr-x 24 p0t p0t 1168 2006-07-15 11:49 . |
| 08:33.52 | syntaxx | [TACO], no idea but when i dig my url it shows my public ip but when i tried to surf it in my other pc it connects to my private ip |
| 08:33.54 | p0t | Eulex, what am i looking for? |
| 08:34.00 | Eulex | p0t, that looks ok. and still the user can't write to files inside that directory? |
| 08:34.11 | p0t | let me double check |
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| 08:34.44 | p0t | Eulex, thats odd.. it does it now |
| 08:35.10 | Eulex | p0t, hmm, ok |
| 08:35.17 | p0t | Eulex, the issue was because i logged in to ftp under that user and it wasnt allowed to upload |
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| 08:36.22 | p0t | Eulex, i get a permission denied |
| 08:36.35 | Eulex | p0t, hmm, ok, go check the config on the ftp server. |
| 08:36.40 | p0t | hmm |
| 08:36.41 | p0t | ok |
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| 08:39.22 | Eulex | p0t, if you can write to files inside the directory as the user but not through ftp as that user that should be a config problem with your ftp server |
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| 08:40.07 | p0t | Eulex, yea thanks a lot |
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| 08:47.42 | murtun | hey all |
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| 08:47.59 | murtun | does anyonen know the name of a text-to-speak text based app? |
| 08:48.45 | sleon|tuX | murtun, mbrolla? |
| 08:50.20 | Gnea | murtun: festival |
| 08:51.13 | Maulkin | festival |
| 08:51.35 | murtun | does that work in console? |
| 08:52.36 | Maulkin | man festival |
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| 08:52.58 | murtun | kk |
| 08:53.01 | murtun | thanks :) |
| 08:54.02 | nkuttler_ | murtun: apt-cache search speech synthesis |
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| 08:59.52 | p0t | from an operating system point of view.. where is clipboard content stored? |
| 09:00.20 | Maulkin | It depends which clipboard. |
| 09:00.23 | Maulkin | There's a few :) |
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| 09:02.07 | p0t | Maulkin, i just wanna learn about them.. what are they called? |
| 09:02.18 | tuv | is there an operating system point of view for clipboards anyway? |
| 09:02.20 | p0t | its hard to google for something you dont know the name of |
| 09:02.34 | p0t | tuv, i dont even know but we shall find out |
| 09:02.45 | Maulkin | p0t: Well, it depends what you're using. |
| 09:03.01 | p0t | i got a mouse |
| 09:03.04 | p0t | :D |
| 09:03.07 | Maulkin | Screen, for example puts them in /tmp/screen-foo |
| 09:03.15 | tuv | i don't think so. i'd say it's stored in memory by a user process, so no OS involved there |
| 09:03.17 | p0t | screen huh |
| 09:03.32 | p0t | tuv, i was thinking something along those lines too |
| 09:03.39 | Maulkin | It could also be stored in memory. |
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| 09:04.55 | tuv | sometimes it feels like it's only some sort of a link to the actual "copied" content as when the application containing that content is terminated "pasting" doesn't work anymore |
| 09:06.05 | mohkohn | hello. I am trying to connect with debian to an airport express wireless connection |
| 09:06.31 | mohkohn | Can anybody give me some tips how to connect? |
| 09:06.49 | mohkohn | I have gnome 2.14 |
| 09:06.56 | [TACO] | should just use DHCP |
| 09:07.10 | tuv | mohkohn, what's your wireless chip? do you have wireless-tools installed? |
| 09:07.27 | mohkohn | That is what I thought |
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| 09:07.37 | mohkohn | yes wireless tools installed |
| 09:07.44 | Maulkin | mohkohn: You should "apt-get install wireless-tools" |
| 09:07.46 | Maulkin | Oh, ok |
| 09:07.56 | mohkohn | Maulkin I have them |
| 09:08.15 | mohkohn | Question where do I find the ESSID? |
| 09:08.19 | Maulkin | mohkohn: Well, you can use iwlist to 'find' the base station |
| 09:08.30 | Maulkin | and then iwconfig to connect to it |
| 09:08.40 | Maulkin | Read their man pages. |
| 09:09.04 | tuv | mohkohn, provided you have a driver for you chip installed as well |
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| 09:09.51 | tuv | mohkohn, if "iwconfig" lists a wireless interface then the driver is installed. if not then most probably it's not installed |
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| 09:11.38 | mohkohn | iwconfig shows the card. but I can't ping the internet |
| 09:12.34 | mohkohn | tried to ping the base station. Network is unreachable |
| 09:13.08 | Maulkin | ARe you connected to it? Do you have an ip address assigned? |
| 09:14.24 | dorel__ | streuner: regarding linux-source and kernel-headers. if i have the linux-source installed. is that enough for compiling modules or are there cases where i need kernel-headers? |
| 09:14.26 | Maulkin | use iwconfig to see if you're connected to it. It should have a line saying AP: or similar |
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| 09:15.17 | mohkohn | Access Point: Invalid |
| 09:15.27 | mohkohn | doesn't sound good :( |
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| 09:16.34 | Maulkin | Then you're not connected to it. |
| 09:17.42 | mohkohn | How do I connect? |
| 09:18.01 | Maulkin | Set your ESSID, and it should auto connect |
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| 09:18.18 | Maulkin | You'll need the rigth key too though, if one is set |
| 09:18.41 | mohkohn | Where do I find the ESSID in Airport Express? |
| 09:18.56 | Maulkin | I have no idea. |
| 09:19.11 | Maulkin | Try using 'iwlist eth1 scan' to find it |
| 09:19.23 | mohkohn | What is the ESSID? |
| 09:19.23 | Maulkin | Replacing eth1 with your interface name |
| 09:19.46 | Maulkin | It's the 'name' of the network connection |
| 09:20.34 | mohkohn | Like "Olga's Network"? |
| 09:21.08 | mohkohn | or are we talking Base Station 728d4b? |
| 09:21.22 | Maulkin | mohkohn: I don't know, it oculd be either. |
| 09:21.26 | Maulkin | use iwlist to find out |
| 09:22.30 | tuv | dorel__, you rarely need linux-source. linux-hearders should do for almost anything |
| 09:22.34 | mohkohn | iwlist is not working. the eth1 is not activating |
| 09:23.01 | tuv | mohkohn, ifconfig eth1 up (use your interface name instead of eth1) |
| 09:23.10 | mohkohn | It is showing up in gnome network settings as eth1 |
| 09:24.29 | tuv | mohkohn, you need to know your network before you can connect to it: network name (ESSID), security settings (none, WEP, WPA) |
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| 09:25.31 | mohkohn | At this stage there is no security |
| 09:26.03 | tuv | mohkohn, ok, what exactly does iwconfig tell you? probably you should paste the entire output |
| 09:26.14 | tuv | (not here though!) |
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| 09:27.13 | mohkohn | I can't really paste. This is a mac machine. The laptop is beside me |
| 09:27.47 | tuv | mohkohn, at least type in the first two lines |
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| 09:31.12 | mohkohn | IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID "Base Station 728d4b" Nickname Broadcom 4306" |
| 09:31.50 | mohkohn | Mode: Managed Access Point: Invalid Bit rate=1 Mb/s |
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| 09:32.57 | tuv | mohkohn, looks like you're connected. did you try running dhclient <wireless-interface-name>? does your access point have a dhcp server enabled? |
| 09:33.46 | superlinux | all users can login to my pppoe server and they are allowed in the firewall.. but only one can connect to the net. the dns server is working fine. squid is working. everything is working. but only one user can go online |
| 09:34.32 | mohkohn | in the Airport express it shows the IP as 10.0.1.1. Must have the DHCP server working or I would not be able to chat with you wirelessly |
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| 09:35.13 | mohkohn | It appears to me. that I need to do something to configure the card. |
| 09:35.22 | liable | !seen jm_ |
| 09:35.22 | dpkg | jm_ <flier@mindwipe.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 21h 42m 59s ago, saying: 'vi ~/.icewm/keys'. |
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| 09:36.03 | mohkohn | SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file f directory |
| 09:36.26 | mohkohn | the f is a typo..should be or |
| 09:38.59 | mohkohn | I have to run for brunch. Will try again later. Thanks for the assistance anyway. |
| 09:39.21 | kreg_work | company owner, manager, system admin, grunt. who do you think should be in charge of managing the registrar for a company that does hosting service? is it really appropriate for the system admin to have the primary login to the registrar? |
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| 09:41.59 | tradiaz | hi |
| 09:42.15 | tradiaz | i've got a problem with debian netinstall for sid |
| 09:42.26 | tradiaz | i've chosen expert as a boot parameter |
| 09:42.36 | tradiaz | but i can't choode the release i want to use |
| 09:42.45 | tradiaz | what am i doing wrong? |
| 09:43.14 | eastwood | you mean |
| 09:43.20 | eastwood | sarge, etch, sid? |
| 09:43.25 | tradiaz | yes |
| 09:43.38 | eastwood | after the repositories is should ask you |
| 09:43.56 | tradiaz | i've read that i'm asked after chosing the mirror |
| 09:44.05 | tradiaz | but that'S wrong :/ |
| 09:44.19 | tradiaz | however i've edfinitly typed expert at the boot prompt |
| 09:44.30 | eastwood | expert26 |
| 09:44.31 | stoned | there is no sid netinstall |
| 09:44.32 | eastwood | ? |
| 09:44.36 | stoned | first of all |
| 09:44.54 | stoned | expert/expert26 only differ in the default kernel they use |
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| 09:45.10 | eastwood | i believe they ask for the release |
| 09:45.15 | stoned | but with expert option it lets you chose either 2.4 kernel or 2.6 kernel |
| 09:45.19 | eastwood | because i was asked already |
| 09:45.32 | stoned | eastwood, yes, this is during the choose mirrors step |
| 09:45.49 | tradiaz | this doesn't happen at my installer |
| 09:45.57 | tradiaz | however i've started in expert mode |
| 09:46.25 | eastwood | btw stoned, tried skype 1.3 ? |
| 09:46.34 | stoned | you know you are in expert mode if instead of automatically doing the steps for you, it presents you with a menu, first option is to select a language |
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| 09:46.36 | notenral | does this website work? http://groups.msn.com/kyofamily/evealbum.msnw |
| 09:46.39 | stoned | eastwood, not yet |
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| 09:46.58 | tradiaz | yes, that happens |
| 09:47.06 | tradiaz | i had to chose language keymap etc. |
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| 09:47.13 | eastwood | notenral, yep |
| 09:47.23 | eastwood | searching pr0n ? |
| 09:47.36 | stoned | tradiaz, then manually modify the sources.list |
| 09:47.47 | tradiaz | where is the sources.list for the current installation located? |
| 09:47.53 | tradiaz | i can't find it in /etc |
| 09:48.01 | eastwood | locate sources-list |
| 09:48.06 | eastwood | locate sources.list |
| 09:48.13 | stoned | eastwood, he is in the installer |
| 09:48.33 | stoned | tradiaz, when chosing wether to use ftp/http mirror, select the last option and modify the souces.list by hand |
| 09:48.36 | eastwood | doesnt it have locate? |
| 09:48.42 | eastwood | etc/apt/sour.. |
| 09:48.58 | tradiaz | it's not in /etc |
| 09:49.08 | tradiaz | maybe it's on the partition i've chosen.... |
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| 09:49.19 | stoned | tradiaz, are you in the installer right now or have already installed debian? |
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| 09:49.34 | tuv | it's easier to modify sources.list after you reboot when the installer finishes |
| 09:49.38 | stoned | tradiaz, you can always just install whatever and then "upgrade" to sid |
| 09:49.52 | tradiaz | hmmm ok |
| 09:49.59 | stoned | tradiaz, my suggesstion, if you can't figure out how to solve this little problem, Sid is NOT for you |
| 09:50.01 | stoned | no offense |
| 09:50.07 | tradiaz | i'll do this, as i've seen i can't mount by hand |
| 09:50.16 | stoned | tradiaz, sid will more than likely break for you, and then you will be in here looking for support |
| 09:50.18 | stoned | !sid faq |
| 09:50.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 09:50.20 | eastwood | i agree |
| 09:50.28 | stoned | please read ^^ |
| 09:50.34 | tradiaz | i'm using gnu/linux for a couple of years now |
| 09:50.48 | tradiaz | and i've really had other distributions than suse and fedora |
| 09:50.51 | eastwood | that doesnt mean you're 1337 already |
| 09:51.00 | tradiaz | it doesn't |
| 09:51.12 | stoned | that isn't the point |
| 09:51.29 | cyneox | !help |
| 09:51.33 | tradiaz | i'm no debian expert, but i know how to solve problen that are a bit more difficult than a misconception like this one |
| 09:51.42 | stoned | packages are constantly updated/removed, dependencies changed around etc. in Sid. If you are less than ADEPT in debian, you should NOT be using sid |
| 09:51.43 | Stonki | I have a problem with a remasters knoppix version (5.0) of me. Its the first time for me working with debian after using suse and gentoo for years, so I am not fairly new. I installed three websites of me on a live cd, but Knoppix (debian) is not showing any images. I am getting http status 206, while the text is working fine and I can access the local file within the webbrower without any problems. So I am wondering, if this is a known debian |
| 09:51.43 | Stonki | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.08 | stoned | Stonki, knoppix is NOT debian |
| 09:52.18 | stoned | only debian is debian |
| 09:52.21 | EdLin | !knoppix |
| 09:52.21 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 09:52.53 | Stonki | ok, sorry for bothering |
| 09:52.56 | tradiaz | well i want to use sid to have more accurately update packages not to help develop debian in the first place |
| 09:53.03 | tradiaz | the testing packages are old |
| 09:53.20 | stoned | tradiaz, you fail to get the point |
| 09:53.31 | eastwood | it's a bw waste to install sarge and sid afterwards |
| 09:53.39 | eastwood | but just install the minimum |
| 09:53.44 | eastwood | and then upgrade |
| 09:53.53 | tradiaz | i'll simply do the testin install and upgrade |
| 09:53.54 | tradiaz | thanks |
| 09:53.57 | tradiaz | cya |
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| 09:57.41 | munzir | Hi, $ sudo rdiff-backup --include /var/www/ / /backup |
| 09:57.41 | munzir | Fatal Error: Last selection expression: Command-line include glob: /var/www/, why? |
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| 10:08.39 | cyneox | man iptables |
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| 10:18.18 | ericP | i want to install the appropriate firmware for whatever version of ipw2200 comes in linux-image-2.6.17-1-686 .. is there a way to find that without downloading the source and looking in the .c files? |
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| 10:20.49 | p0t | Maulkin, i found out its a package that comes with xorg called xclipboard |
| 10:21.04 | p0t | i just saw the code and it aint no joke |
| 10:21.18 | tuv | ericP, see ipw2200.sf.net -> firmware link. there is a table there |
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| 10:22.29 | tuv | ericP, and to know the modules version in the kernel, load the modules and look at dmesg |
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| 10:24.12 | ericP | tuv, dmest, tx. (git-1.1.1, btw) |
| 10:24.46 | ericP | tuv, i'm hoping this is how to resolve "Unable to load firmware: -2" . |
| 10:25.16 | tuv | ericP, well get the firmware from ipw2200.sf.net |
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| 10:33.38 | jbrimble | I installed the MySQL Admin GUI using apt-get.. How do I run it? |
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| 10:35.26 | EdLin | jbrimble: install the menu package if you already haven't, then run as user "update-menus", assuming of course that this program has a Debian menu system entry. |
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| 10:36.51 | roxy_ | I want to watch DVD, I tried KMplayer and Kaffeine. Both gave me error. Which one should I choose (easiest to set up) ? |
| 10:37.30 | EdLin | roxy_: are you trying to watch an encrypted DVD? |
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| 10:37.52 | roxy_ | EdLin: yes |
| 10:38.02 | EdLin | roxy_: have you installed dcss? |
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| 10:39.03 | roxy_ | EdLin: I was expecting aptitude install to do everything for me! |
| 10:39.37 | ericP | weak, appropriate firmware, boosted /sys/class/firmware/timeout , and i still get "ipw2200: probe of 0000:02:02.0 failed with error -5" |
| 10:39.54 | jbrimble | Is it possible to watch a video through TightVNC? |
| 10:39.58 | EdLin | roxy_: libdcss is illegal in many countries, thus it isn't installed by default |
| 10:40.11 | ericP | this does not happen with the gentoo CD, but i didn't check what ipw2200 version they were running |
| 10:40.37 | EdLin | roxy_: do you have the marillat (now called debian-multimedia) repositories? |
| 10:42.13 | roxy_ | no, let me google for it |
| 10:42.26 | EdLin | !tell roxy_ about marillat |
| 10:42.53 | EdLin | roxy_: no need for google when you have the dpkg infobot. :-) |
| 10:43.20 | roxy_ | thanks :-) |
| 10:44.12 | liable | i think libdvdread has the shell script for it too |
| 10:44.37 | man_in_shack | anyone know of a deb package tutorial? |
| 10:44.40 | EdLin | liable: it does, but I have the feeling that he might want more than just dcss |
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| 10:45.02 | samhob | hello |
| 10:45.16 | liable | man_in_shack: the new maintainer guide |
| 10:45.22 | jbrimble | does anyone know? Watching video through TightVNC on a lan, will this work? |
| 10:45.27 | EdLin | liable: besides, marillat's is newer |
| 10:45.28 | man_in_shack | liable, where's that? :) |
| 10:45.47 | liable | man_in_shack: you can apt-get it, or check debian.org |
| 10:45.52 | liable | EdLin: oh, is it? |
| 10:46.06 | samhob | i please need help i have deleted by error the /etc/X11 directory and would like to reinstall what package should i reinstall , other question is there a apt-get ou dpkg switch to reinstall every single package installled? |
| 10:46.10 | EdLin | liable: I think so |
| 10:46.15 | samhob | jbrimble: no it will not.. |
| 10:46.22 | jbrimble | thanks samhob |
| 10:46.55 | samhob | it will but not at 24 fps.. maybe 5 max |
| 10:46.56 | liable | !reinstall |
| 10:46.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 10:47.22 | samhob | liable for me ? |
| 10:47.32 | liable | samhob: you'll need to remake that dir, and use --force-confmiss option |
| 10:47.49 | samhob | ok but to what command? |
| 10:48.12 | liable | samhob: well, xserver-xorg, and x11-common are prolly a good start |
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| 10:49.12 | liable | samhob: or you can restore from backup :P |
| 10:49.15 | samhob | apt-get install --force-confmiss xserver-xorg ? |
| 10:49.16 | b00 | lo |
| 10:49.32 | liable | !tell samhob about confmiss |
| 10:49.37 | simonrvn | !liable |
| 10:49.38 | dpkg | liable is probably someone who is very helpful, but needs to buy better beer |
| 10:49.44 | simonrvn | heh |
| 10:49.49 | b00 | i've lost root password on my ol debian router box, |
| 10:49.53 | simonrvn | probably? |
| 10:49.59 | liable | haha, yeah, i have cheap taste in beer :) |
| 10:49.59 | b00 | can i reset it with the debian cd ? |
| 10:50.15 | samhob | debian cd not sure but with a live cd yes |
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| 10:50.24 | liable | b00: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 10:50.24 | b00 | live cd |
| 10:50.36 | b00 | ok |
| 10:50.44 | samhob | chroot /mnt/yourdir /bin/bash and then passwd root |
| 10:50.58 | samhob | can you give me the full command liable ? please |
| 10:51.38 | liable | samhob: didnt dpkg tell you? |
| 10:51.53 | liable | samhob: check for a query from dpkg in your client |
| 10:52.35 | samhob | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 10:52.48 | robin_sz | ok, wtf is going on here ... $perldoc <some pacage> tells me I need to intall the perl-doc package ... #apt-get install perl-doc tells me no such pacage, been replaced by perl. #apt-get install perl tells me it already is the newest version |
| 10:52.49 | samhob | without the DPkg::Options:: thing right :P |
| 10:53.07 | liable | with it |
| 10:53.41 | liable | or just use dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/foo |
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| 10:54.48 | roxy_ | EdLin: what package should I install to watch dvd (from Europe and US) ? (I got marillat repos now) |
| 10:54.50 | samhob | ok thx |
| 10:54.50 | TARZEAU | apt popcon |
| 10:54.54 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:55.28 | liable | :( new laptop doesnt arrive till end of week |
| 10:55.37 | man_in_shack | roxy_, this is not the channel to ask about non-standard repositories |
| 10:55.49 | jbrimble | anyone know where i can get Macromedia Flash Viewer for Debian? |
| 10:55.51 | samhob | thx |
| 10:55.56 | samhob | i got it again |
| 10:56.00 | samhob | but i cant configure x |
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| 10:56.01 | TARZEAU | jbrimble: from macromedia.com |
| 10:56.15 | man_in_shack | TARZEAU, even after adobe bought them out? |
| 10:56.36 | TARZEAU | man_in_shack: most probably, yes, we use the non-free installer package |
| 10:56.48 | EdLin | roxy_: libdvdcss2 |
| 10:56.50 | samhob | no updating /etc/X11/X file has been customized |
| 10:57.08 | roxy_ | EdLin: thanks |
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| 10:59.31 | c00lfon | dygi, Hi my friend. ;) |
| 10:59.53 | dygi | c00lfon: Salut. |
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| 11:01.31 | roxy_ | EdLin: using kmplayer, I get this error trying to play a dvd: http://rafb.net/paste/results/2KkgIY58.html |
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| 11:03.56 | EdLin | roxy_: looks like kmplayer is trying to use DVD menus but is failing. Judging by the name it is a front-end to mplayer, who's DVD menu support the last time I knew about it is experimental. |
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| 11:05.05 | b00 | liable, thanks a million |
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| 11:06.06 | liable | b00: yw |
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| 11:07.24 | dorel__ | tuv: rarely is good. but i want to understand what are the uses for each package. |
| 11:07.33 | roxy_ | EdLin: what app do you recommend to watch DVD ? |
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| 11:08.21 | EdLin | roxy_: mplayer is actually good if you don't try to view DVD menus. I have ogle-mmx for those times when I need them |
| 11:08.40 | liable | actually, i think his is using xine as its backend |
| 11:08.49 | liable | his/her |
| 11:09.13 | samhob | every time i try to reconfigure xserver-xorg i get "poosinst warning : not updating /etc/X11/X file has been customized" heeelp |
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| 11:09.28 | EdLin | liable: it's using xine for the DVD menu support, probably in a broken fashion, but I don't think it'd be called "kmplayer" if it wasn't mplayer based. Though this is the first I've heard of it. |
| 11:09.45 | liable | samhob: check the status link in /topic |
| 11:10.12 | liable | EdLin: apt says it a front end for a few different players, including xine. |
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| 11:10.23 | EdLin | liable: weird |
| 11:10.26 | liable | ya |
| 11:10.44 | liable | roxy_: try installing mplayer if its not already |
| 11:11.18 | EdLin | liable: I can't even find it in Sarge |
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| 11:11.54 | EdLin | roxy_: another good choice is vlc |
| 11:14.18 | samhob | " samhob: check the status link in /topic" found nothing interessant inside |
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| 11:15.15 | sleon | hi |
| 11:15.21 | samhob | sorry hem wrong this errror is fine now |
| 11:15.32 | samhob | solved |
| 11:15.40 | samhob | hem still |
| 11:15.50 | samhob | no updating /etc/X11/X file has been customized |
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| 11:15.58 | sleon | i want to switch to courier. most of my users do not have $HOME/Maildir. can courier-imap create it automatically when it does not exist ? or do i need to do it with a script? |
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| 11:16.36 | papak | hi guys, im having issues compiling modules with my kernel. I keep getting the error "Module.sysmver is missing;" is there a fix for this? I have googled but havent found anything usefull. |
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| 11:18.37 | roxy_ | EdLin: using mplayer I got: Encrypted VOB file! Read DOCS/HTML/en/cd-dvd.html. Where would that be on a vanilla debian ? |
| 11:20.30 | daxxar | roxy_, I'd guess /usr/share/docs/mplayer/, but it's just a guess. :-) |
| 11:20.41 | stoned | roxy_, dpkg -L mplayer|grep doc |
| 11:20.43 | Flakk | hello people I have a problem with sound under debian etch. I installed alsa-base alsa-utils, and I have done alsaconf. however there is a problem with playibg CDs and the sound in movies played by totem, s to say there is no sound |
| 11:23.08 | papak | Flakk, have you checked volume in alsamixer? |
| 11:23.17 | liable | Flakk: have you checked alsamixer levels? |
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| 11:23.22 | stoned | CSS decryption code does not work with some DVD drives unless you set the region code appropriately |
| 11:23.23 | liable | !lose me |
| 11:23.23 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 11:23.49 | Flakk | papak liable ; no what should I do in alsamixer? |
| 11:24.12 | stoned | default alsa volume levels are fine |
| 11:24.17 | stoned | they are at 75% |
| 11:24.39 | stoned | does totem tell you there is no audio device, or no errors but just no audio |
| 11:24.41 | liable | Flakk: check line in volume (or whatever looks like might be cd) also make sure the cable is plugged in :P |
| 11:24.53 | Flakk | the numbers in the alsamixer are 74<>74 and 77<>77 |
| 11:25.01 | papak | Flakk, couldnt of said it any better :D |
| 11:25.21 | Flakk | for master M master and headphones |
| 11:25.58 | stoned | holy shit |
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| 11:26.03 | stoned | is almost 7am |
| 11:26.06 | stoned | im going to sleep |
| 11:26.07 | Flakk | liable: the cable is ok, since the mp3 plays well |
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| 11:26.48 | robin_sz | the 'backup' user on debian ... in what way are they "special"?? read only in some way? |
| 11:27.10 | liable | Flakk: ok then, so we can discount alsamixer too |
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| 11:27.16 | EdLin | stoned: I notice a strange yellow orb in the sky as well |
| 11:27.32 | roxy_ | stoned: I can't find a way to set the region. I am using an US dvd |
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| 11:28.07 | robin_sz | stoned, beware the evil daystar |
| 11:28.16 | roxy_ | in /usr/share/docs/mplayer there aren't any html doc :( |
| 11:28.20 | Flakk | liable: so what could be the prob? actually maybe there are two different probs 1) cd 2) mpeg? actually when I try to play CD it says that it can no access the CD |
| 11:28.23 | papak | so has anyone else had the issues with the Module.sysmver when compiling modules? |
| 11:28.43 | papak | Flakk, have you mounted the cd? |
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| 11:29.10 | EdLin | roxy_: apt-get install mplayer-doc |
| 11:29.16 | Flakk | papak no |
| 11:29.22 | liable | Flakk: are you in cdrom group? i thought you said you could play mp3 (i was assuming you meant a cd of mp3's) |
| 11:29.50 | Flakk | liable: no I have some mp3 s in the hard drive and this works fine |
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| 11:30.33 | liable | Flakk: right, that has nothing to do with whether the cd drive cable is plugged in |
| 11:31.07 | papak | Flakk, what is in your /media dir? |
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| 11:31.24 | Flakk | liable: are u joking? there is no cable there |
| 11:31.48 | Flakk | papak : cdrom cdrom0 |
| 11:31.53 | papak | ahh k |
| 11:32.17 | papak | Flakk, just rem that you dont need to mount music cd... my bad |
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| 11:32.44 | Flakk | papak I NEVER mount the cds |
| 11:33.01 | papak | Flakk, ok |
| 11:33.32 | EdLin | !u |
| 11:33.32 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 11:34.17 | Flakk | papak i mean the music cds |
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| 11:34.50 | liable | Flakk: http://compreviews.about.com/od/tutorials/ss/DIYCDDVD_6.htm |
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| 11:36.34 | roxy_ | EdLin: thanks, I got some reading now :-) |
| 11:37.43 | kimo | Hi, anyone know of a Linux antivirus distribution server for Windows machines? A commercial solution is not a problem. |
| 11:38.05 | papak | any suggestions why I cant compile modules for my kernel? Im getting the error "Module.symver is missing". am I missing something? ive installed kbuild packages, modules-assistant and kernel source |
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| 11:38.44 | liable | kimo: clamav? (i am not sure exactly what you meant by that :) |
| 11:38.54 | liable | !tell AndyMcGee about root |
| 11:39.07 | AndyMcGee | if i do something like xloadimage $(find -name "*.jpg") i have probs with filenames that contain spaces... how could i avoid that? |
| 11:39.23 | liable | ah, i= :) |
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| 11:39.32 | kimo | liable: I mean an AV server that can push updates to Windows machines & scan them regularly ... I dont think clamav has central management, right? |
| 11:39.38 | Flakk | liable; I got it you think i am on a desktop but i am on a laptop |
| 11:39.52 | liable | Flakk: ah, ok |
| 11:40.19 | Flakk | what bothers me is that in the previous installations I played the cds |
| 11:40.37 | liable | kimo: no. dont know of anything like that either. |
| 11:41.58 | daxxar | AndyMcGee, you could try "find -name "*.jpg" -print0|xargs -0 xloadimage"? |
| 11:42.15 | daxxar | AndyMcGee, that uses \0 as a seperator, then xargs converts it into args, and I think it treats spaces properly. |
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| 11:45.25 | hid3 | Hello everyone. My ntpd daemon crashed unexpectedly. However, in netstat -ln | grep 123 I can still see something listening on 123 port. When I try to start the ntpd again, I get errors that the address is already in use.. Any ideas about that? |
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| 11:47.21 | Flakk | liable: by the way what is the program whoch reads the music CDS? |
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| 11:48.02 | liable | Flakk: any of the music players. |
| 11:48.12 | Flakk | totem for examle? |
| 11:48.37 | liable | i guess, i havent ever used totem |
| 11:48.49 | Flakk | what d u use for cd s? |
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| 11:49.53 | liable | i use xmms or cplay, though i dont listen to cd's very often |
| 11:50.35 | Flakk | xmms for cds? |
| 11:50.49 | liable | yes |
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| 11:54.30 | liable | Flakk: you prolly want to check and make sure totem is using alsa, or make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded.. |
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| 11:55.21 | tradiaz | re |
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| 11:55.51 | tradiaz | got that sid repos working now |
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| 11:56.12 | AndyMcGee | daxxar, Thank you, works perfect |
| 11:56.22 | daxxar | AndyMcGee, np. :-) |
| 11:56.30 | tradiaz | the target installation partition is in /target, that's where the installer chroots to |
| 11:56.45 | Flakk | liable i have just installed xmms but it does not recognize that in /media/cdrom there is something |
| 11:57.10 | tradiaz | it worked by editing /etc/sources.list there |
| 11:58.13 | liable | Flakk: is it an audio cd? |
| 11:58.18 | Flakk | liable yes |
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| 11:59.24 | liable | Flakk: but totem sees it? |
| 11:59.41 | Flakk | liable:no |
| 12:00.09 | robin_sz | ok, wtf is going on here ... $perldoc <some pacage> tells me I need to intall the perl-doc package ... #apt-get install perl-doc tells me no such pacage, been replaced by perl. #apt-get install perl tells me it already is the newest version |
| 12:00.23 | Flakk | there is also what is called CDplayer which says: drive error |
| 12:00.42 | liable | Flakk: whats dmesg say? |
| 12:00.58 | Flakk | tell me please how to call dmesg |
| 12:01.20 | robin_sz | you type "dmesg" .. strangely enough |
| 12:01.21 | papak | has anyone got any ideas why i cant compile modules for my kernel. The error i get is "Module.symvers is missing;" I have googled but cant find a fix. any ideas? |
| 12:01.38 | liable | robin_sz: hrm, i have perl-doc available |
| 12:02.35 | robin_sz | hmmm .. I dont .. it says replaced by perl |
| 12:02.52 | liable | which debian version? |
| 12:02.52 | Flakk | liable: dmesg gives a long file. |
| 12:02.59 | robin_sz | liable, sargeish |
| 12:03.14 | Mitja | Can anyone please help me mount a CD? It's internal, this is ls -l /proc/ide result: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RvYla058.html ? |
| 12:03.21 | liable | robin_sz: i have it for sarge and sid.. |
| 12:03.27 | robin_sz | sigh |
| 12:04.21 | liable | !info perl-doc sarge |
| 12:04.30 | dpkg | perl-doc: (Perl documentation), section doc, is optional. Version: 5.8.4-8sarge4 (sarge), Packaged size: 6886 kB, Installed size: 11940 kB |
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| 12:04.42 | liable | robin_sz: what does "sargeish" mean?? |
| 12:04.57 | robin_sz | umm well I think its sarge, |
| 12:05.10 | robin_sz | but abviously I must have broken it in some random way |
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| 12:09.28 | EdLin | robin_sz: /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:09.52 | liable | in your client |
| 12:10.42 | robin_sz | EdLin, 3.1 |
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| 12:11.12 | EdLin | robin_sz: that's Sarge alright. |
| 12:11.14 | jones- | hi |
| 12:11.18 | papak | im having issues builing modules with my kernel. I get the error "Module.sysmvers is missing;" any ideas why? |
| 12:11.21 | jones- | is devfs out of the newst kernels? |
| 12:11.25 | jones- | newest* |
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| 12:11.45 | liable | yep (well they were certainly talking about it) |
| 12:11.48 | EdLin | jones-: devfs is depreciated since 2.6, so yes it may be removed now. |
| 12:12.00 | papak | am i the only one with this issue? |
| 12:12.28 | jones- | EdLin: i'm currently running 2.6.15, and i'm building 2.6.17.6. When I booted into it, I got some "devfs missing" omplains or something like that. any idea? |
| 12:12.38 | papak | looks like everyone is building there modules with no probs |
| 12:12.39 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 12:12.39 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of rutabagas, a little K-Y jelly, and a dozen starving badgers. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few hours! |
| 12:13.08 | robin_sz | jones-, I had the same thing going from 2.6.14 to 2.6.16 on the slaptop |
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| 12:13.17 | jones- | robin_sz: can you suggest a fix? |
| 12:13.19 | papak | !funny |
| 12:13.19 | dpkg | funny is probably Bug report #41459; xmms: xmms eats my memory and finds it tasty. http://members.lycos.co.uk/ukrock/individual_pages/various/argentina-1.jpg |
| 12:13.57 | robin_sz | jones-, nope, I left mine on 2.6.14 until time became available, but you are not the only one to have this problem |
| 12:14.18 | jones- | robin_sz: does that mean that i'm pwnd? |
| 12:14.38 | robin_sz | probably :) |
| 12:14.55 | jones- | damn :S |
| 12:15.00 | EdLin | jones-: switch over to udevfs, which is the equally crappy way of the future for people who can't run /dev/MAKEDEV |
| 12:15.06 | Flakk | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! |
| 12:15.08 | papak | has anyone built any modules lately? |
| 12:15.10 | Flakk | grip rules |
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| 12:15.32 | jones- | EdLin: what do you mean with the second part of your statement? |
| 12:16.05 | EdLin | jones-: prior to udevfs becoming a must-have, you could cd to your /dev directory, and create device files with MAKEDEV. |
| 12:16.24 | jones- | EdLin: yeah, but my kernel doesn't boot at all |
| 12:17.33 | EdLin | jones-: well, that's because crappy devfs has been totally obsoleted - but don't say they didn't warn that it would happen. |
| 12:17.36 | jones- | EdLin: so I just apt-get install udev? |
| 12:17.43 | papak | anyone? out there building moudles? |
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| 12:18.20 | EdLin | jones-: I don't know, I have been using official kernels for a while and never ran devfs unless a distro forced it on me. |
| 12:18.22 | Flakk | liable: so many thanks for your advice !!!!!!!! grip works |
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| 12:18.39 | jones- | EdLin: but i downloaded official 2.6.17.6 kernel |
| 12:18.46 | jones- | EdLin: i'm on debian etch |
| 12:18.54 | EdLin | jones-: I meant official Debian kernels. Sorry. |
| 12:18.57 | _pt | hello, what does it mean wenn i tried with chroot /mnt/hda3 and got "bash: /dev/null: permission denied". i am the root on another partion and would like to run a command on another linux partion via chroot. but i got this error. it used to work before... |
| 12:19.00 | liable | Flakk: isnt grip a ripping utility? |
| 12:19.21 | jones- | EdLin: so by apt-getting linux-source-2.6.something? |
| 12:19.34 | Flakk | yes it is! but if you put a small cable betwee two point you know --- |
| 12:19.35 | papak | could someone at least point me in the right direction? |
| 12:20.01 | jones- | papak: make clean && make vmlinux && make modules && make modules_install |
| 12:20.19 | Mitja | Can anyone please help me mount a CD? It's internal, this is ls -l /proc/ide result: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RvYla058.html ? |
| 12:20.37 | EdLin | jones-: yes. apt-cache search to find it. |
| 12:21.09 | EdLin | !info linux-source-2.6 etch |
| 12:21.09 | jones- | EdLin: ok. Btw, I accidentally deleted my original .config that came with the installation of Debian Etch. Have any idea how to rebuild it? |
| 12:21.24 | papak | jones-, thanks i'll try that |
| 12:21.28 | jones- | EdLin: it's going to be a hell to pick every option manually |
| 12:21.49 | liable | Mitja: why are you showing us that particular bit if info? |
| 12:22.01 | EdLin | jones-: "make menuconfig" isn't all that hard IMHO. If it is then maybe you shouldn't be hand-rolling kernels. |
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| 12:22.30 | Mitja | liable, what would you like to see? |
| 12:22.44 | jones- | EdLin: i'm on powerpc hardware for the first time, so i don't know the hardware very well |
| 12:22.54 | EdLin | jones-: oh yes, the config you're using should be in /boot |
| 12:22.59 | liable | Mitja: how about the error you get when you cant mount the cd? |
| 12:23.07 | jones- | EdLin: yeah, that's the one i accidentally deleted |
| 12:23.12 | EdLin | jones-: and there's a file in /proc with the settings of the current kernel. |
| 12:23.26 | jones- | EdLin: cool, what file? |
| 12:23.28 | liable | Mitja: btw, if its audio, you dont need to mount it |
| 12:23.41 | Mitja | liable, I don't know from which device to mount it in the first place |
| 12:24.13 | liable | Mitja: you should have something in fstab from the install.. cat /etc/fstab for clues |
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| 12:24.29 | EdLin | jones-: I'm not sure, I recall something about it being in proc though. |
| 12:24.44 | jones- | EdLin: can't find anything with a significant name |
| 12:25.33 | Mitja | liable, I altered my fstab and might have overwritten that line for cd mounting |
| 12:25.35 | EdLin | jones-: I can't find it either. :-/ |
| 12:25.52 | jones- | damn |
| 12:26.49 | liable | Mitja: is your hard drive scsi/sata? |
| 12:27.17 | EdLin | jones-: apparently a certain kernel patch produces /proc/config.gz |
| 12:27.27 | Mitja | liable, sata |
| 12:27.41 | liable | EdLin: i think thats a fairly new feature |
| 12:27.41 | EdLin | jones-: that's all I have figured out so far googling. |
| 12:27.47 | jones- | EdLin: ok thanks |
| 12:28.06 | liable | Mitja: then .. mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom |
| 12:28.20 | EdLin | liable: yeah, Sarge's 2.6.8 doesn't have it |
| 12:29.13 | Mitja | liable, that worked thanks |
| 12:29.24 | Mitja | Now I'm confused why it didn't work before |
| 12:29.31 | Mitja | I had that entry in fstab all along |
| 12:31.51 | EdLin | liable: of course, running 2.6.8 has its advantages, the security flaw that took down glick isn't present in Sarge's kernel. |
| 12:32.25 | liable | EdLin: haha, theres a new one out that does affect it :P |
| 12:32.34 | liable | EdLin: i shouldnt laugh.. i use sarge too |
| 12:32.37 | EdLin | liable: phoey. |
| 12:33.17 | liable | EdLin: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2006-July/047907.html |
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| 12:34.43 | liable | abrotman: and you mock me about animals? |
| 12:34.56 | abrotman | that was a mock of you ;) |
| 12:36.51 | possie | is there something like kickstart for debian? |
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| 12:37.02 | abrotman | !fai |
| 12:37.02 | dpkg | i guess fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 12:37.08 | abrotman | !dphys |
| 12:37.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/, or http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys-kernel-packages/ we build kernels with patched in supermount,sk98lin v2,nvnet for p1-1gb p1-smp-1gb p3-1gb p3-smp-1gb p3-smp-4gb p4-1gb p4-4gb p4-smp-4gb p4-smp-64gb k7-1gb k7-4gb k7-64gb k7-smp-4gb k7-smp-64gb and modules for 3w-9xxx, NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-7174, alsa-driver-1.0.10, openafs-1.4.0, vmware-modules-4.5.2 |
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| 12:37.27 | dut | Hello! May you suggest simple PCB design program for Debian GNU/Linux, please? |
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| 12:38.06 | abrotman | geda |
| 12:38.34 | dut | abrotman, thanks! |
| 12:39.40 | abrotman | at least .. i think that's what geda does :) |
| 12:39.43 | abrotman | !info geda sarge |
| 12:39.45 | dpkg | geda: (GNU EDA -- Electronics design software), section electronics, is optional. Version: 20050313-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 392 kB |
| 12:41.49 | dut | abrotman, I'm looking at it now. Not simple, but interesting. Thank you! |
| 12:42.17 | abrotman | dut: there are others .. |
| 12:42.38 | abrotman | xcircuit i think .. also .. apt-cache search pcb |
| 12:43.15 | dut | abrotman, i search. and see electric, xcircuit and pcb packages, but they are sophisicated |
| 12:43.22 | abrotman | ah |
| 12:44.28 | bartm | dut: aren't pcb's sophisticated? :) |
| 12:44.31 | threw | dut: eagle |
| 12:44.38 | AndyMcGee | Is there a band-in-a-box alike software running on linux under a nixe licence ? |
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| 12:45.18 | abrotman | bartm: no ... it's like a breadboard .. but you know .. way more complicated :) |
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| 12:45.56 | sussudio | abrotman: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/deb06H.html |
| 12:46.35 | abrotman | sussudio: is that the year so far ? |
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| 12:47.07 | sussudio | abrotman: it is |
| 12:47.10 | dut | bartm, PCB design programs are complicated. So i trying to find the simplest :-)(for amateur, not professional |
| 12:47.19 | abrotman | sussudio: someone needs a life! |
| 12:47.25 | sussudio | indeed |
| 12:48.42 | abrotman | sussudio: i can't believe you count all the lines! |
| 12:49.04 | abrotman | sussudio: i think we're trending lower after last year :) |
| 12:51.01 | EdLin | abrotman: yeah, the bitchx users who go to irc.debian.org by default are gone. |
| 12:51.10 | shining | what's the mess about cdrecord and suid ? Does it really need to ? |
| 12:51.26 | abrotman | EdLin: hehe |
| 12:51.34 | shining | the linux kernel doesn't allow normal users without any root access to correctly burn a cdrom ? |
| 12:52.20 | TARZEAU | omg i've got too much lines too |
| 12:52.26 | jelly-home | shining: suid is probably used for realtime priority, not for device access. device access is easiloy solved by correct permissions. |
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| 12:52.34 | dvs | shining: It's not up to the kernel, it's up to the file system permissions |
| 12:52.39 | EdLin | I'm at a distant #61 |
| 12:52.55 | shining | it does has access to the cdrom device |
| 12:52.59 | shining | but it isn't enough |
| 12:53.08 | EdLin | TARZEAU: btw, what's with the upper-case nick? |
| 12:53.09 | RvGaTe | stoned, ya there? |
| 12:53.20 | Gathond | shining: I think jelly-home is right, setuid is used so cdrecord can get higher priority than other processes, which in these days with burnproof and all might be a none issue |
| 12:53.22 | shining | by default, hdc was in the cdrom group, and my user too, with rw access |
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| 12:53.24 | liable | gah, trust the satin panties thing to be there.. :( |
| 12:53.28 | TARZEAU | EdLin: nothing. you want to buy me a small one? |
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| 12:53.39 | shining | Gathond: I don't think so |
| 12:53.55 | EdLin | TARZEAU: heh. I just wondered if there is a reason for the change |
| 12:53.56 | jelly-home | shining: 1. what kernel (2.4 or 2.6), 2. do you have write permissions, 3. what device? |
| 12:54.04 | shining | cdrecord gives a warning that it fails setting the priority, but it's just a warning, it shouldn't fail |
| 12:54.23 | shining | 2.6 kernel, I've write permission to /dev/hdc |
| 12:54.26 | darren_ | currently running stable. If I want a package like xmame from testing is there a way I can add one source for apt just for that package? |
| 12:55.01 | jelly-home | shining: what is the exact message that you get? It should work... |
| 12:55.27 | shining | it happens to other ppl as well |
| 12:55.33 | shining | eg http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7195&sid=56c1b32bc60fedb382f8834485141fa1 |
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| 12:56.38 | shining | there is a long discussion here between the cdrecord dev and another guy : http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist%40lists.debian.org/msg211297.html |
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| 12:56.47 | shining | it's hard to know which one is right |
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| 12:58.30 | Mitja | There's no sound in kscd or grip. How can I fix this? |
| 12:58.57 | liable | Mitja: are they using alsa plugin or oss?? |
| 12:59.04 | Mitja | alsa |
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| 13:02.03 | superlinux | ALLAHU AKBAR!!! AL Golan in syria is Hit |
| 13:02.32 | liable | erm, thats not really appropriate here |
| 13:02.39 | raf256 | superlinux: heh |
| 13:02.41 | jelly-home | shining: Schilling has displayed some hostility towards Linux in the past, but his technical arguments look sound to me as a casual observer (no better than yourself) |
| 13:02.54 | superlinux | raf256, I live in saida Leb |
| 13:03.04 | raf256 | superlinux: in where? |
| 13:03.07 | superlinux | it's getting near |
| 13:03.12 | superlinux | Lebanon |
| 13:03.14 | dvs | raf256: Lebanon |
| 13:03.21 | raf256 | what is Lebanon? libia? |
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| 13:03.32 | jelly-home | shining: so it appears that for whatever reason, you have to make is suid with this kernel. :-| |
| 13:03.46 | superlinux | raf256, calling mars! |
| 13:03.54 | superlinux | LOL! |
| 13:04.09 | raf256 | superlinux: I though Libia was the coutry to start the war? anyway, get out of there while you still can, mon O_o |
| 13:04.23 | shining | jelly-home: ok then |
| 13:04.24 | superlinux | thanks |
| 13:04.31 | superlinux | we had our share! LOL! |
| 13:04.54 | EdLin | raf256: lybia != lebanon. Lybia is in North Africa and does not border Israel though they had funded terrorists in the past |
| 13:05.01 | superlinux | I saw the israeli plane yestaerday shellin near to my sec. school |
| 13:05.18 | raf256 | war is fucked up |
| 13:05.21 | raf256 | get out |
| 13:05.29 | EdLin | or is that Libya... |
| 13:05.34 | superlinux | at dawn as I woke up on the anti air |
| 13:05.51 | ericP | i've booted linux-image-2.6.17-1-686, which as ipw2200 version git-1.1.1, seen "Unable to load firmware: -2", installed ipw2200-fw-3.0.tgz (corresponds to driver 1.1.1), which created /lib/firmware/ipw2200-fw-3.0/*.wf, and i still get the same error |
| 13:05.52 | superlinux | EdLin, Lebanon near palestine and syria man .. middle east |
| 13:05.55 | ericP | Mommmmm! |
| 13:06.12 | EdLin | superlinux: where's Palestine? ;-) |
| 13:06.13 | dvs | ericP: So, did you download the firmware? |
| 13:06.20 | superlinux | as italians say: Mamma mia! |
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| 13:06.35 | jelly-home | EdLin: don't be naguhty. :-> |
| 13:06.41 | jelly-home | naughty |
| 13:06.46 | ericP | dvs, yup, and it created what i assume is the correct lib/firmware subdir |
| 13:07.04 | EdLin | jelly-home: yeah, we're getting way off-topic |
| 13:07.21 | raf256 | superlinux: wtf |
| 13:07.29 | raf256 | superlinux: evacuate while you still are alive |
| 13:07.42 | papak | jones-, sweet man ty it works now :D |
| 13:07.47 | papak | jones-, thans heaps |
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| 13:07.51 | raf256 | heh, guy can be killed any minute and hes on IRC O_o |
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| 13:08.09 | jelly-home | raf256: gotta get your priorities straight. |
| 13:08.35 | jones- | papak: anytime :) |
| 13:09.16 | superlinux | well I had my student visa to aussie when the shelling started. my passport is still at my educational agent and he is also stuck.. those israelis has cut every bridge we have |
| 13:09.44 | superlinux | I feel a plane near by... |
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| 13:10.10 | EdLin | the UN made a resolution that Lebanon should disarm Hezbollah years ago, they should have listened. |
| 13:10.51 | raf256 | EdLin: indeed |
| 13:11.32 | EdLin | raf256: they're upset about 100 unintended casualties, I'm in New York and we had 3,000 civilians purposefully targeted by terrorists |
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| 13:11.41 | superlinux | EdLin, I think that should have been told to israelis... I think no one would disarm even you if you are fearing an every day threat |
| 13:12.04 | superlinux | I just telling a news |
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| 13:12.30 | EdLin | superlinux: Hezbollah made a provocation purposefully. Israel was prepared to leave them alone as they'd basically done since the withdrawel from Lebanon |
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| 13:12.46 | superlinux | maybe |
| 13:12.50 | vivek_ | hello all, |
| 13:12.57 | superlinux | vivek, hi |
| 13:12.58 | basanta | how do I downgrade pango |
| 13:13.10 | Jemt | !downgrade |
| 13:13.10 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. But you can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 13:13.16 | vivek_ | i am having lots of trouble getting ssh server to run on my debian ... someone suggested that it could be cos some ather program is using the same port |
| 13:13.20 | till | EdLin: it is not the first time that Hamas of Hizbullah take hostages to negotiate prisoner exchanges. |
| 13:13.21 | vivek_ | how do i fix this ? |
| 13:13.22 | raf256 | superlinux: why in the world you didn't stoped Hezbollah? |
| 13:13.40 | vivek_ | i have like 8 hours before i leave for school and i really need to put this server up ... |
| 13:13.40 | Jemt | Guys, that sounds like #off-topic |
| 13:13.45 | till | EdLin: the fact that THIS was the answer means that it was well prepared and they just needed an excuse |
| 13:14.04 | liable | when did #debian become #middle-east-conflicts? |
| 13:14.08 | jelly-home | superlinux: anyway, the situation in your country isn't really topical here. |
| 13:14.08 | EdLin | till: Israel is always well prepared, they have to be. |
| 13:14.09 | raf256 | apt-get install terrorists war && apt-get remove common sense |
| 13:14.26 | vivek_ | its going to be difficult to configure my voip without this box ... somehow ssh always seems to fail. ..the /var/log/auth.log shows no ssh attepmts |
| 13:14.29 | dvs | liable: heck, ubuntu users do it all the time. ;-( |
| 13:14.30 | superlinux | people people back to linux.... I was just mentioning a news people nothing more man! |
| 13:14.31 | basanta | dpkg, downgarde pango also needs downgarde of libglib |
| 13:14.41 | Jemt | Please go to another channel if you want to discuss that sort of things! |
| 13:14.53 | till | EdLin: sure, they have to be prepared. but they have a choice as to how exactly answer |
| 13:15.06 | Jemt | till: #off-topic |
| 13:15.14 | till | Jemt: soory |
| 13:15.39 | Jemt | till: Np |
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| 13:17.38 | infernix | dont be anti war. be pro peace. |
| 13:17.39 | dvs | EdLin: that's a bad sign. ;-) |
| 13:19.03 | EdLin | infernix: better yet, be pro-Debian |
| 13:19.54 | infernix | by default, sir. :) |
| 13:20.25 | EdLin | # make love |
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| 13:24.00 | EdLin | ewwww |
| 13:24.08 | EdLin | that's not quite what I meant |
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| 13:24.21 | munzir | Hi, I want to backup apache2 folder without its subdirectories so I tried sudo rdiff-backup --print-statistics --include /etc/apache2/ --exclude '*' / /backup but this backed up all the folder, what's wrong please? |
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| 13:31.03 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 13:31.04 | dpkg | somebody said qotd146 was <penguin> If I run a command int the background like $command & <penguin> What happens if I turn the computer off |
| 13:31.24 | Dewi | my debian testing system seems to have problems resizing terminal windows, but my debian stable system is fine |
| 13:31.59 | Dewi | I'm not sure if it's a configuration difference or a binary one... in fact, I'm not sure even what package would be responsible for the ability of programs to be notified when the window resize occurs |
| 13:32.12 | infernix | i have that issue in ion3 |
| 13:32.18 | infernix | with Eterm. |
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| 13:32.33 | infernix | i blamed ion though. |
| 13:32.40 | Dewi | I'm using putty |
| 13:32.48 | Dewi | on debian testing I basically have to quit apps to resize |
| 13:33.06 | Dewi | which is annoying enough in 'man' or something, but it's very annoying in the irc client |
| 13:33.35 | infernix | putty on linux? |
| 13:33.42 | Dewi | no, putty to linux |
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| 13:34.10 | sparkman | hello :) |
| 13:34.11 | sparkman | !perl |
| 13:34.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, perl is the Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister, or confusing as hell to learn but quite powerfull if you know how to use it, or see http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/, or #perl |
| 13:34.23 | sparkman | !debian perl |
| 13:34.23 | dpkg | somebody said perl was the Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister, or confusing as hell to learn but quite powerfull if you know how to use it, or see http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/, or #perl |
| 13:34.25 | sparkman | heh. |
| 13:34.44 | infernix | cmon, spam the bot in private please:) |
| 13:34.53 | sparkman | i'm done |
| 13:35.43 | sparkman | anyways, i wanted to write a script that checked for old versions of modules in the repository, and reported it as a bug |
| 13:35.50 | sparkman | would this be needed/desired? |
| 13:36.04 | abrotman | if you're trying to use frame buffer .. and it fails for whatever reason .. will the boot process stop? |
| 13:36.20 | infernix | it shouldnt |
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| 13:36.34 | infernix | but if your hardware makes it hang, it will |
| 13:36.48 | abrotman | the only thing that has changed is the video display .. it works on one .. never finishes booting on the other |
| 13:36.52 | infernix | that can happen with crappy hw or where the fb code isnt really on-par |
| 13:37.04 | abrotman | it's a mac hooked to a tv :) |
| 13:37.27 | abrotman | it's runing debian! |
| 13:37.50 | Dewi | you silly twisted boy |
| 13:38.15 | abrotman | btw .. if you know a place in the states to buy miniITX hardware .. i'd love to hear about it :) |
| 13:39.09 | infernix | maybe try the general VESA framebuffer |
| 13:39.30 | dvs | I thought Macs used ATI? |
| 13:39.43 | infernix | when messing around with fb on a project, i stuck with vesa cause the vendor specific ones would give me headaches |
| 13:40.06 | infernix | and for what i needed (high res console + bootlogo), vesa was fine anyway |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | i don't want to use framebuffer at all |
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| 13:41.39 | infernix | then dont compile it in?:) |
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| 13:42.24 | abrotman | i didn't |
| 13:42.31 | abrotman | fucktard kernel developers did |
| 13:42.52 | dvs | And that's why I like rolling my own1 |
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| 13:43.09 | abrotman | dvs: you're canadian .. you like rolling in your own |
| 13:43.20 | dvs | abrotman: erm.... yeah |
| 13:43.28 | dvs | abrotman: you |
| 13:43.38 | abrotman | what? |
| 13:43.44 | dvs | abrotman: you'll have to use kernel line options to turn off the frame buffer |
| 13:44.10 | abrotman | i have to find them .. i'm looking now |
| 13:44.25 | dvs | vesafb=off for example |
| 13:44.28 | infernix | i've rolled my own since debian 1.3 |
| 13:44.41 | abrotman | i just didn't think it would stop the entire boot process |
| 13:44.57 | infernix | ye it can. especialyl the vendor specific ones |
| 13:44.57 | dvs | infernix: before kernel-package? You're brave!! ;-) |
| 13:45.01 | infernix | VESA never should |
| 13:45.08 | infernix | dvs: kernel-package? whats that? ;) |
| 13:45.12 | dvs | doh! |
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| 13:48.55 | Jemt | Greetz. How do I install Xorg 6.8 or 6.9 ? It seems it is 7.0 that is in the Testing Repository |
| 13:49.08 | Jemt | And as far as I remember, it is not in Stable |
| 13:49.30 | abrotman | 14. Using multi-headed framebuffers ... some people are just sick! |
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| 13:50.31 | infernix | Jemt: 7 in stable isnt available i think. 6.8/6.9 is, but its unsupported. either way, try www.backports.org |
| 13:50.44 | Jemt | infernix: Thanks :) |
| 13:52.13 | Jemt | infernix: Nope, It is also 7.0 in Stable. Checking backports instead :) |
| 13:52.19 | RvGaTe | anyone here has gset-compiz ? |
| 13:52.32 | sussudio | !doe RvGaTe |
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| 13:52.45 | b00^rt | lo, |
| 13:52.48 | RvGaTe | ehmm |
| 13:52.51 | RvGaTe | ok |
| 13:53.16 | Jemt | infernix: Great, you were right - 6.9 is available in Backports :D |
| 13:53.26 | abrotman | RvGaTe: compiz isn't in debian |
| 13:53.33 | b00^rt | where is a good place to put some custom network config for start up ? |
| 13:53.41 | RvGaTe | abrotman, hmm, ok... |
| 13:53.49 | dvs | b00^rt: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:53.55 | Jemt | RvGaTe: http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm |
| 13:54.11 | Jemt | RvGaTe: Might help you install XGL if that's what you are trying :) |
| 13:54.13 | b00^rt | dvs : can I call firewall script from there too ? |
| 13:54.41 | b00^rt | urg |
| 13:55.09 | RvGaTe | Jemt, i installed xgl correctly, but i fucked up the config for it (using gset-compiz) and there is no "restore to default" button |
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| 13:55.29 | Jemt | RvGaTe: Oh, bugger :( |
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| 13:55.44 | Jemt | RvGaTe: Not sure I can help you. I would be very interested in the guide you followed though :) |
| 13:55.52 | Jemt | RvGaTe: That is if you did follow a guide :) |
| 13:56.16 | Jemt | RvGaTe: For all I know you could be a "l33t" hacker, porting XGL to Debian yourself :) |
| 13:56.45 | RvGaTe | Jemt, im on ubuntu, but since its debian based, i tried here... (not getting any replies on #ubuntu) |
| 13:56.59 | Jemt | RvGaTe: Ah, ok. Cheat :p |
| 13:57.02 | b00^rt | . |
| 13:57.03 | b00^rt | oops |
| 13:57.21 | RvGaTe | Jemt, guess i am a bit cheating :P |
| 13:57.29 | Jemt | RvGaTe: Ubuntu is not Debian. It is heavly patched and Debian tricks might not work on Ubuntu |
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| 13:57.47 | phyrster | I have a sblive sound card which supports 4 channels. |
| 13:57.49 | Jemt | RvGaTe: But it's worth a try I guess :) |
| 13:58.19 | phyrster | but now only amplifiers can make sounds, not ear-phones |
| 13:58.35 | Jemt | phyrster: Checked your mixer ? |
| 13:58.40 | phyrster | ear-phones are plugged into the back channles (the other two) |
| 13:58.54 | Jemt | !tell phyrster about enter |
| 13:58.55 | phyrster | how to enable four-channle mode for this sound card? |
| 13:59.17 | Jemt | phyrster: It is easier to track your questions if you write them on one line :) |
| 13:59.20 | thegraham | I'm having trouble connecting to my MySQL server. I can connect on the machine with the server, but if I connect from other machines i get "ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.0.0.2' (61) |
| 13:59.20 | thegraham | ". MySQL config file: http://pastebin.ca/89565 |
| 13:59.31 | phyrster | I tried alsamixer, but did not find any option to turn on four channel mode. |
| 14:00.08 | Gathond | thegraham: the default setting of mysql only listens on the local interface, change that if you really want it |
| 14:00.26 | phyrster | Jemt: stop the annoying !tell thing |
| 14:00.43 | thegraham | Gathond: how do i change that? |
| 14:00.45 | Jemt | thegraham: Also, remote access requires the user to be granthed remote access (marked with a '%' in the database user table) |
| 14:00.47 | abrotman | thegraham: sounds like a #mysql question |
| 14:01.08 | thegraham | Jemt: Yes I know about allowing remote users |
| 14:01.15 | Jemt | thegraham: Ok |
| 14:01.37 | Jemt | phyrster: Please don't tell me what to do. It is easier to follow your question if you don't separate it on several lines. |
| 14:02.26 | shining | ericP: did you solve it? |
| 14:02.44 | ericP | shining, tried lots of stuff, but no |
| 14:02.58 | ericP | shining, do you use ipw2200? |
| 14:03.00 | shining | you know you contradicted yourself? |
| 14:03.19 | ericP | probabe, but where? |
| 14:03.19 | shining | you said you put the firmware in /lib/firmware |
| 14:03.29 | shining | but just before you said in /lib/firmware/ipw2200-fw-3.0/ |
| 14:03.34 | shining | that's the only problem :) |
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| 14:04.11 | ericP | hmm, what does "in" mean in a filesystem? |
| 14:04.38 | thegraham | Gathond: Nobody has been around/has answered my question in #mysql, could you take a look at my config file? http://pastebin.ca/89565 |
| 14:04.42 | ericP | shining, what do yo uhave under /lib/firmware/ ? |
| 14:04.54 | shining | ericP: it's a strict in |
| 14:05.03 | phyrster | Jemt: you told me what to do! stop those annoying !tell shit |
| 14:05.06 | shining | the firmware files need to be just in /lib/firmware/ |
| 14:05.09 | shining | not in a subdir |
| 14:05.25 | ericP | aha! trying... |
| 14:05.33 | thegraham | Do I need to get rid of "bind-address = 127.0.0.1"? |
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| 14:05.49 | Gathond | thegraham: I cant help you, havent used mysql the last 3+ years:) |
| 14:05.53 | shining | the location of these firmware is another thing who annoyed me a lot |
| 14:06.06 | shining | it doesn't even tell you where it's looking ! how stupid |
| 14:06.08 | phyrster | Jemt: you could have said 'easier in oneline' here, not !tell, lecturing |
| 14:06.14 | valdyn | thegraham: yes, replace 127.0.0.1 with 0.0.0.0 |
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| 14:06.27 | thegraham | thanks valdyn |
| 14:06.52 | thegraham | it worked :D |
| 14:07.11 | shining | after upgrading a while back, the location changed from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware to /lib/firmware without saying anything |
| 14:07.11 | ericP | shining, worky! tx kindly! |
| 14:07.38 | shining | you can never know where it should be other than by trying.. |
| 14:07.45 | shining | grrr |
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| 14:09.12 | ericP | shining, yeah, trying to find the google search that gave me the command line that left it in the subdir... |
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| 14:09.54 | shining | that also changed, previously the firmware was at the first level of the tarball |
| 14:10.01 | shining | now it's in a subdir |
| 14:10.20 | ericP | aha, prob was old instructions on a new tarball |
| 14:10.30 | shining | but well, that's not really the problem |
| 14:11.04 | shining | the problem is it just says it failed to load the firmware, without telling you where it looks |
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| 14:13.29 | ericP | shining, agreed. diags would have shortened this process to the point where i didn't notice it |
| 14:14.33 | shining | diags? |
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| 14:17.37 | my007ms | what is batter cyrus-imapd or dovecot ? |
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| 14:18.50 | Jemt | What would it take to "change" an ordinary Debian installation to and AMD64 install ? Would it be sufficient to install a new AMD64 kernel ? And what about all the software already installed? |
| 14:19.55 | azeem | Jemt: you cannot change the whole thing |
| 14:20.04 | azeem | Jemt: you can install an amd64 kernel, though |
| 14:20.08 | Jemt | azeem: So I need the "real" AMD64 CD ? |
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| 14:20.16 | Jemt | azeem: Oh, ok |
| 14:20.20 | Jemt | azeem: Thanks |
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| 14:21.15 | phogg | Is there a way to tell apt to ignore broken dependancies for a specific package? I want to use gaim-0.58 from woody and it works if I install with --force-depends, but then the next time I do any aptitude install it sees the broken package and forces an unwanted upgrade. |
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| 14:22.10 | phogg | I'd really rather not downgrade to xfree86 4.3 to make this work. |
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| 14:24.52 | liable | phogg: holding it doesnt work? |
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| 14:27.31 | valdyn | phogg: rebuild that package from source |
| 14:27.35 | phogg | liable: no |
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| 14:27.42 | phogg | valdyn: I was afraid that would be the answer, |
| 14:27.49 | Mitja | I get http://rafb.net/paste/results/D7LHXQ70.html after running alsa-checklist. Does anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 14:27.51 | valdyn | phogg: afraid why? |
| 14:27.59 | eskaypey | hello guys |
| 14:28.10 | PhinnFort | hi |
| 14:28.16 | phogg | valdyn: it's inelegant and takes more time than toggling a setting somewhere. |
| 14:28.22 | eskaypey | how would one cut+paste between two files in nano? -) |
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| 14:29.04 | phogg | eskaypey: switch to multi-buffer mode and CTRL+K in one file and then CTRL+U in the other |
| 14:29.05 | valdyn | phogg: its quite elegant, its also just 2 apt-get commands |
| 14:29.19 | PhinnFort | i love machinae supremacy |
| 14:29.35 | phogg | valdyn: only two? Okay, I give: How do you do it so simply? |
| 14:29.46 | PhinnFort | "in other news, the human race was doomed to extinction today, when the robot revolt turned violent" |
| 14:29.54 | eskaypey | phogg, switch to multi-buffer? |
| 14:30.01 | Dave|id | good evening people.. oh wait.. good morning people |
| 14:30.16 | eskaypey | ive tried that but it didnt work.. me in single buffer i suppose :/ |
| 14:30.31 | phogg | eskaypey: Meta+F to toggle multiple file buffers, then CTRL+R to open additional files, then Meta+. and Meta+, to switch between files |
| 14:30.35 | valdyn | phogg: apt-get build-dep gaim/woody; apt-get -t stable -b source gaim |
| 14:30.46 | valdyn | phogg: apt-get build-dep gaim/woody; apt-get -t woody -b source gaim |
| 14:31.35 | Dave|id | ok, if i wanted to run a cronjob every minute between the hours of 1 and 5 |
| 14:31.40 | phogg | valdyn: why is it necessary to build the stable gaim first? |
| 14:31.40 | Dave|id | what would that be? |
| 14:32.07 | valdyn | phogg: first? only. |
| 14:32.31 | phogg | valdyn: you gave two commands, the first targeting stable and the second woody. |
| 14:32.43 | valdyn | phogg: ignore my first line |
| 14:33.32 | phogg | valdyn: will do. And thanks. I had visions of apt-get source, building, and making a new deb mself |
| 14:33.44 | teknoprep | is there a pptp gui dialer for debian? |
| 14:33.57 | liable | pptp? |
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| 14:34.06 | teknoprep | pptp = vpn |
| 14:34.11 | teknoprep | ms vpn tunnel |
| 14:34.22 | phogg | teknoprep: a quick search suggests kvpnc |
| 14:34.44 | phogg | or pptpconfig, which I recall using at some point in the past. |
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| 14:36.44 | headache | hey any hackers here... i need www.mavishare.com 's php code. simple. i pay 5,000$ if youre successful - that is all, msg me ill be on freenode all day |
| 14:37.02 | charasky | ? |
| 14:37.26 | charasky | no conozco a ningun hacker headache |
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| 14:37.55 | charasky | aunque conoci a un tipo que tenia unos hackers en su arbol genealogico |
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| 14:38.06 | charasky | eran piratas ingleses |
| 14:38.21 | charasky | en mi caso la oveja negra es un tatara abuelo |
| 14:38.29 | charasky | que hacia trafico de negros entre africa |
| 14:38.34 | charasky | y ee uu |
| 14:38.51 | Jemt | headache: What you need is a cracker. And I don't think you will find someone here that will help you |
| 14:39.13 | charasky | Jemt un hacker no es lo mismo que un cracker |
| 14:39.17 | Jemt | charasky: Speak english, please :) |
| 14:39.21 | charasky | el cracker estudia el codigo |
| 14:39.32 | Jemt | charasky: Englisk, please! |
| 14:39.42 | charasky | the cracker dont broken security |
| 14:39.58 | charasky | he studi the code |
| 14:40.18 | Jemt | charasky: A cracker breaks systems, a hackers studies them |
| 14:40.25 | charasky | no |
| 14:40.36 | Jemt | charasky: .. |
| 14:40.42 | charasky | a cracker dont breaks systems |
| 14:40.59 | Jemt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker |
| 14:41.00 | charasky | the hackers yes |
| 14:41.20 | Jemt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_definition_controversy |
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| 14:41.30 | jkanter | A la babelfish: Charasky says Jemt hacker is not just like to cracker |
| 14:41.31 | charasky | this definitions is wrong |
| 14:42.01 | Jemt | jkanter: ? |
| 14:42.02 | charasky | cracker use technicals of debuggin |
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| 14:42.15 | charasky | hackers use technicals of debuggin |
| 14:42.20 | jkanter | I am translating using babelfish |
| 14:42.22 | Jemt | jkanter: Oh, never mind |
| 14:42.27 | jkanter | charasky says:cracker studies the code |
| 14:42.31 | Jemt | jkanter: Bablefish sucks :) |
| 14:42.33 | charasky | yes |
| 14:42.43 | bartm | charasky: who cares that there are multiple definitions, as long as everything is clear in the context :) |
| 14:42.47 | Jemt | charasky: Read the Wiki.. |
| 14:43.02 | charasky | ok |
| 14:43.04 | jkanter | I got the jist |
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| 14:43.09 | bartm | Jemt: maybe that wiki got cracked... or hacked? ;) |
| 14:43.21 | charasky | hacked |
| 14:43.22 | charasky | xD |
| 14:43.40 | Jemt | bartm: :p |
| 14:44.32 | charasky | hacker as someone who "hacks into" a system by evading or disabling security measures. |
| 14:45.21 | Jemt | charasky: No, that's the definition created by the media. And it is very wrong. Please read the Wiki. I know what I'm talking about. I have read several articles about the hacker/cracker culture. |
| 14:45.35 | my007ms | http://www.fcw.com/article90994-10-03-05-Print |
| 14:45.41 | phogg | charasky: oh yeah? I've got a jargon file that says otherwise. |
| 14:46.01 | my007ms | there is type of hacker |
| 14:46.10 | bartm | great, let's have a crack/hack war, just as pointless as "the best distro" :) |
| 14:46.20 | charasky | cracker disabling code but dont studi security |
| 14:46.31 | charasky | dont exploit it |
| 14:47.02 | liable | stupid fucking rar archives |
| 14:47.10 | charasky | studi metodes of compression, encription, etc |
| 14:47.25 | Jemt | Ok, I really don't wanna discuss this with you, charasky. I don't see the point. I invite you to read the Wiki though - it's never to late to learn something new |
| 14:47.26 | eskaypey | phogg, Meta+F just prints "f" |
| 14:47.34 | bartm | liable: can rar archives really f... ? :) |
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| 14:47.46 | charasky | ok Jemt |
| 14:47.52 | Jemt | bartm: Yes - you didn't know that ? ;) |
| 14:48.12 | bartm | Jemt: cool let's apt-get that now :) |
| 14:48.28 | Jemt | bartm: Yea! :) |
| 14:48.43 | bartm | rrrrrarrrr :) |
| 14:48.45 | Jemt | liable: What seems to be the problem ? |
| 14:49.10 | phogg | eskaypey: then you're using an older versio of nano. Check the help screen to see what the keybinding is for you. |
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| 14:53.15 | eskaypey | phogg, ah how do i do this if i have the + with = shift doesnt seem to work :/ |
| 14:54.10 | phogg | eskaypey: You do not type the +. Meta+f means "Hold down your meta key and hit f" |
| 14:54.22 | liable | Jemt: that i cant read man pages apparently |
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| 14:55.45 | eskaypey | phogg, oh heh sorry you said "Meta+." |
| 14:56.03 | eskaypey | i took that as Meta+ |
| 14:56.40 | eskaypey | Meta+. doesn't work anyways |
| 14:58.12 | Zvpun | &/quit |
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| 15:00.21 | Jemt | liable: What does that haft to do with rar archives ? |
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| 15:01.36 | eskaypey | thanks anyways |
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| 15:02.52 | man_in_shack | what does "upstream author" relate to? |
| 15:03.14 | azeem | man_in_shack: the person(s) who wrote the program |
| 15:03.21 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 15:04.39 | streuner | azeem: pretty hot in .de and you aren't swimming? |
| 15:04.55 | azeem | nope :) |
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| 15:08.49 | liable | having a good run... five attempts to use cdrecord also.. |
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| 15:12.03 | liable | after i finish this beer anyway.. |
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| 15:13.46 | aubergine | With which command can i find directory that have chmod 777? |
| 15:13.51 | EdLin | liable: good night. ;) |
| 15:13.59 | EdLin | aubergine: find |
| 15:14.05 | aubergine | yes |
| 15:14.08 | aubergine | but how :( |
| 15:14.30 | george_looney | aubergine: find |
| 15:14.50 | aubergine | yes but i dont know how to do |
| 15:14.52 | EdLin | aubergine: man find :-) |
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| 15:15.44 | george_looney | aubergine: find -perm 0777 |
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| 15:16.04 | aubergine | ah ok thank you |
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| 15:16.12 | george_looney | aubergine: ooops I meant find ./ -perm 0777 |
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| 15:16.40 | EdLin | aubergine: you might want to add a -d to that for directories |
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| 15:17.57 | eamelink | Hmm, anyone has an idea why my loopback network device doesn't come up on booting? I do have auto lo && iface lo inet loopback lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:18.48 | george_looney | eamelink: do a /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 15:18.49 | EdLin | aubergine: I mean -type d, sorry |
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| 15:18.59 | liable | eamelink: standard kernel, or did you compile one? |
| 15:19.07 | eamelink | liable, I did compile one |
| 15:19.09 | vivek | hello all i am having trouble with sshd server on my debian machine ... |
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| 15:19.21 | liable | eamelink: so do it again, and add lo support :P |
| 15:19.39 | vivek | the var/log/auth.log does not show any ssh attempts |
| 15:19.41 | vivek | how do i go about fixing this ? |
| 15:19.41 | eamelink | liable, I can ifup it manually though :P |
| 15:19.51 | eamelink | george_looney, Ahh, that gives some clues |
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| 15:19.59 | eamelink | eamelink:/var/log# /etc/init.d/networking startstart |
| 15:19.59 | eamelink | Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop|restart|force-reload} |
| 15:20.14 | eamelink | Erm, I really just typed start once :P |
| 15:20.38 | pabs3 | vivek: hello :) is it listening on a port? netstat -nlp | grep 22 |
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| 15:20.44 | george_looney | eamelink: so did it work |
| 15:21.06 | vivek | pabs3: one sec |
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| 15:22.04 | vivek | pabs3: it says listen 3806/sshd ... |
| 15:22.19 | vivek | pabs3: and tcp6 0 0 :::22 |
| 15:23.45 | eamelink | I guess I broke the script while adding a line to enable my wireless switch |
| 15:23.45 | eamelink | Oops |
| 15:23.45 | eamelink | d0h, I removed the s from start |
| 15:23.48 | eamelink | And the bootup process didn't guess to use |
| 15:23.50 | eamelink | /etc/init.d/networking tart |
| 15:24.21 | liable | yes, a networking tart |
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| 15:25.05 | george_looney | LOL |
| 15:25.55 | EdLin | !kingsleysmite eamelink |
| 15:25.55 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer eamelink: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.176130057816533! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 15:27.31 | liable | heh, kingsley.. a joke gone bad.. |
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| 15:27.57 | eamelink | Alright |
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| 15:28.01 | eamelink | My loopback device works :P |
| 15:28.06 | EdLin | liable: I called it up because if you say "oops" your rating goes down. |
| 15:28.41 | eamelink | What was the last sentence I said before the - unexpected :P - disconnection after I hit /etc/init.d/networking stop? :P |
| 15:29.02 | dorel__ | i've installed a pci card that automatically loads some module driver, how can i specify another module to load instead automatically? |
| 15:29.13 | EdLin | eamelink: /etc/init.d/networking tart |
| 15:29.23 | eamelink | Oh, yeah, that was stupid |
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| 15:29.37 | liable | EdLin: hah, i didnt know that. the whole thing was a joke, but strangely things changed here around the same time he started with that shit :) |
| 15:29.47 | EdLin | eamelink: almost as stupid as editing startup scripts to add a service in a sysv init system. |
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| 15:30.22 | vivek | now my /var/log/auth.log says fatal cannot bind any address error : Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 ... |
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| 15:30.44 | george_looney | eamelink: I would suggest you do a "update-rc.d networking defaults" |
| 15:30.48 | EdLin | liable: it was a joke to us, I think kingsley himself is serious |
| 15:31.11 | liable | i agree |
| 15:31.42 | eamelink | Thanks george_looney, that's a nice trick I didn't know |
| 15:32.04 | eamelink | Now, I'll try to get my productivity level back to > 1 zero before I get terminated :P |
| 15:32.13 | liable | right, beer finished, time for sleep :) gnight #debianoids :) |
| 15:32.53 | EdLin | liable: I've got to stay up, gonna ride with some friends on the Staten Island Ferry this afternoon |
| 15:33.54 | george_looney | g'nite liable |
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| 15:34.51 | EdLin | hasta luego liable |
| 15:36.23 | eamelink | Welterusten, to add some dutch :P |
| 15:36.50 | george_looney | shubh raatri loaf |
| 15:36.53 | george_looney | shubh raatri liable |
| 15:37.09 | george_looney | heh heh why should I be left behind ;) |
| 15:37.15 | EdLin | eamelink: yeah, when you get hit with those rusty iron pipes you get welts |
| 15:38.14 | EdLin | george_looney: what language is that? :-) |
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| 15:39.27 | george_looney | Hindi |
| 15:39.40 | EdLin | george_looney: interesting |
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| 15:40.58 | threat | werd |
| 15:41.04 | EdLin | george_looney: I'm not really familiar with that language. All I know is Hebrew, English, and a bit of spanish from college |
| 15:41.19 | cyneox | EdLin: lol ;) |
| 15:41.49 | EdLin | cyneox: what's so funny? We really should be learning Hindi because India is where all the jobs are. ;-) |
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| 15:42.15 | streuner | hehe |
| 15:42.19 | george_looney | EdLin: Hindi is the national language of India |
| 15:42.21 | cyneox | EdLin: no hindi..chinese! ;) |
| 15:42.37 | EdLin | george_looney: yes, and English is one of the official ones. |
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| 15:42.47 | george_looney | EdLin: oh yeah |
| 15:43.06 | tojik | Hi everyone, I installed Debian and have no sound. Can anyone help me to fix it? |
| 15:43.09 | george_looney | don't worry people, India is just hyped up |
| 15:43.24 | cyneox | tojik: apt-get install alsa-base |
| 15:43.43 | tojik | cyneox: did not help |
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| 15:43.59 | streuner | tojik: what kernel and distro do you use? |
| 15:44.20 | streuner | cat /proc/version, What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 15:44.21 | EdLin | !tell tojik -about sound |
| 15:44.44 | cyneox | wow..cool feature ;) |
| 15:44.45 | streuner | have you tried OSS too? |
| 15:44.49 | cyneox | !tell cyneox -about sound |
| 15:44.55 | iko | How can I unload agpgart or have it never ever loaded in the first place? It shows up as being used by nvidia and nvidia_apg in lsmod. |
| 15:45.04 | EdLin | cyneox: /msg dpkg instead |
| 15:45.17 | iko | I already tried modprobe -r agpgart (of course) |
| 15:45.35 | tojik | streuner Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:45.40 | george_looney | iko: why do you want to do that? |
| 15:45.53 | streuner | tojik: ok, try OSS then |
| 15:45.58 | iko | george_looney: Because the agp driver of nvidia is like 3 times faster. |
| 15:46.07 | george_looney | oh ok |
| 15:46.31 | tojik | streuner: I don't know what is this |
| 15:46.33 | streuner | tojik: modprobe the sound-module for your sound-card and add your user to the audio-group, log out and back in, listen to music |
| 15:46.55 | streuner | tojik: if its PCI, just /msg dpkg dl |
| 15:47.18 | tojik | streuner: It's a little difficult for me. It's onboard sound card |
| 15:47.46 | streuner | lspci should take care of it too |
| 15:48.03 | streuner | do you have 2 soundcard installed on your system? |
| 15:48.08 | streuner | s* |
| 15:48.22 | pabs3 | !hcl |
| 15:48.22 | dpkg | it has been said that hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 15:48.30 | pabs3 | the last link |
| 15:48.33 | streuner | pay attention |
| 15:48.39 | tojik | streuner: No, only one onboard sound card ac97 |
| 15:48.41 | streuner | <streuner> tojik: if its PCI, just /msg dpkg dl |
| 15:48.58 | streuner | ok |
| 15:50.16 | my007ms | there is some say that postfix will replace sendmail soon is that right?? |
| 15:50.41 | george_looney | my007ms: that was 2 years ago |
| 15:50.51 | my007ms | :D |
| 15:51.20 | my007ms | no i mean in linux in general not in debian only |
| 15:51.34 | zinx | no one should be using sendmail |
| 15:51.43 | zinx | people still are, but they really should not be using it. |
| 15:51.52 | bronze | But most places do |
| 15:51.59 | my007ms | why u say that ...? u have good resone |
| 15:52.07 | zinx | yeah, it's a security nightmare |
| 15:52.10 | zinx | is that good enough? |
| 15:52.24 | zinx | vulnerabilities are still being discovered in it. |
| 15:52.30 | zinx | i don't see that stopping any time soon |
| 15:52.31 | bronze | sendmail is still one of the most widely used MTA's for Linux/UNIX sites on the web. Its like COBOL. |
| 15:52.32 | my007ms | :) sure so why we not speek abut qmail |
| 15:52.40 | my007ms | it's batter even postfix |
| 15:52.43 | zinx | because qmail sucks and is non-free |
| 15:52.49 | bronze | good reasons |
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| 15:53.21 | asg | zinx: remember that while sendmail has a checkered past and is still a monolithic mta, it's recent history has been quite good. Good enough that OpenBSD will not replace it. |
| 15:53.30 | george_looney | Thou shall not take the name of "unspoken MTA" here |
| 15:53.33 | zinx | asg: No it hasn't. |
| 15:53.41 | zinx | asg: it had a new arbitrary code execution problem just months ago |
| 15:53.41 | my007ms | so postfix do all sendmail do plus much is that what we all try to say |
| 15:53.53 | asg | zinx: yes, so has exim |
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| 15:54.09 | zinx | asg: i didn't see that one |
| 15:54.14 | zinx | asg: good thing i use postfix? |
| 15:54.35 | my007ms | so all my programe will work just like i use sendmail |
| 15:55.05 | my007ms | what sun MTA is it sendmail |
| 15:55.36 | zinx | auth_spa_server |
| 15:55.51 | my007ms | i don't remmber but solaris come which one ? |
| 15:55.53 | zinx | hmm |
| 15:56.06 | my007ms | is that auth_spa_server GNU |
| 15:56.07 | asg | zinx: I agree that postfix and qmail, from an architectural basis, are more secure. Secunia lists about an equal number of vulnerabilities over the last 3 years for sendmail, exim, postfix. |
| 15:56.14 | george_looney | my007ms: do you use Sendmail? |
| 15:56.27 | my007ms | yes i have very very old box |
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| 15:57.03 | asg | zinx: it really comes down to experience. An experienced sendmail admin will likely have a more secure installation than if they were to use postfix when they are unfamiliar with it. |
| 15:57.07 | george_looney | thats a very good statistic |
| 15:57.20 | my007ms | it was work as ftp server "debian" when the time b4 the time and we all use sendmail lol |
| 15:57.21 | zinx | asg: not really |
| 15:57.46 | zinx | asg: unless they've isolated it to run as a particular user, and that still gives local access |
| 15:57.56 | klikklak | Hi, I'm getting 9's and 6's instead of letters in firefox, I've set the font to a different one (one of msttcore) previously. Has anyone else got this error? |
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| 15:58.52 | asg | zinx: I'd disagree and say that security issues are mostly the result of poor administration. Granted holes occur but most intrusions are the result of failed administrative oversight. |
| 15:59.06 | zinx | asg: the vulnerabilities i'm talking about are configuration-agnostic |
| 15:59.48 | zinx | asg: It doesn't help you when the problem is a buffer overrun issue in, say, authentication code |
| 15:59.58 | zinx | asg: to administer the machine "better" |
| 16:00.18 | asg | zinx: true but such vulnerabilities are managable in most situations. |
| 16:00.28 | my007ms | http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200606/mxsurvey.html |
| 16:00.51 | JViz | how do i install all of the appropriate developement packages? |
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| 16:01.22 | asg | JViz: it depends on what they are. start with the 'build-essential' package. |
| 16:01.29 | my007ms | did u see this george_looney asg zinx |
| 16:01.36 | JViz | asg: how do i do that? |
| 16:01.37 | asg | JViz: if you compile something and it complains about not finding libfoo, install the libfoo-dev package and try again. |
| 16:01.43 | george_looney | yes my007ms |
| 16:01.43 | asg | JViz: apt-get install 'build-essential' |
| 16:01.45 | EdLin | !u |
| 16:01.45 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 16:01.50 | JViz | asg: thank you |
| 16:02.32 | samhob | doctor, what should i do , debian crashes when i startx i freezes all my systeme i must puch the button to turn off the pc , (using vesa driver or nvidia too everything) |
| 16:02.33 | george_looney | my007ms: was that a /msg??? |
| 16:02.35 | my007ms | 34.87% vs 12.01% |
| 16:02.36 | samhob | please help thx |
| 16:03.26 | george_looney | "puch the button" sounds funny :) |
| 16:03.26 | EdLin | JViz: also you can try "apt-get build-dep foo" to get all of the headers for building a source package, which may be what you need for a different version of the package |
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| 16:04.40 | JViz | EdLin: cool, thank you |
| 16:04.43 | klikklak | forget it, I just changed the font |
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| 16:05.28 | george_looney | "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" |
| 16:05.47 | hjubal | hola |
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| 16:05.54 | Orlyowl | hi |
| 16:06.13 | george_looney | yo Orlyowl |
| 16:06.49 | Orlyowl | im going to install debian amd64 on my machine. is there a realplayer package available for it? |
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| 16:07.20 | mohkohn | hello. Trying again to get my wireless ethernet to work. I am having trouble activating the eth1 |
| 16:07.27 | asg | Orlyowl: #debian-amd64 would know |
| 16:07.37 | Orlyowl | thanks, i'll try it there |
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| 16:07.45 | vivek | hello all, i am trying to get dyndns working with my debian system which is behind two routres ... |
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| 16:07.51 | rodolfo | b |
| 16:08.01 | vivek | how do i go about doing that ? |
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| 16:08.17 | streuner | you router doesn't support dyndns? |
| 16:08.37 | george_looney | vivek: are those NAT'ing routers? |
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| 16:08.57 | vivek | george_looney: hmmz you have to tell me :( |
| 16:09.02 | vivek | how do i find out ? |
| 16:09.10 | vivek | i run openwrt on one of them ... |
| 16:09.25 | vivek | and the other is a standard adsl router/modem |
| 16:09.47 | george_looney | so one is a pc router |
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| 16:09.50 | vivek | streuner: i think the openwrt one supports dyndns .. but not sure hoto get that to work .. |
| 16:09.51 | mohkohn | It shows up with iwconfig and in gnome network settings |
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| 16:10.17 | vivek | mohkohn: no gnome sorry just did a basic install only cli ... |
| 16:10.44 | george_looney | babelism, lol |
| 16:11.03 | mohkohn | but it says Access Point Invalid in iwconfig |
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| 16:12.53 | vivek | i am leaving for school in an hour .. so if you can help me out it will be just great :( |
| 16:13.13 | vivek | i have been going through the manuals for the past 2 days and not gotten too far ... |
| 16:13.26 | lunitik | vivek: care to restart your issue? |
| 16:14.20 | vivek | lunitik: i need to ssh into my debian machine from school. I have gotten ssh to work tnx to pabs3, but i can't get dyn dns to work. i have two routers one is a router/firewall and the second one is running openwrt ... |
| 16:14.34 | asg | vivek: apt-cache search dyndns (a number of scripts exist for updating dyndns with your ip address) |
| 16:14.48 | vivek | asg: i have configured ddclient to do that for me |
| 16:15.04 | vivek | i used the checkip.dynds.org and web as the method |
| 16:15.09 | vivek | sholud i try something else ? |
| 16:15.50 | lunitik | vivek: you have your router(s) doing port forwarding? you're connecting to the correct port? able to connect via just IP? |
| 16:15.58 | george_looney | how do you get in throught with 2 routers in between from outside?? |
| 16:16.25 | lunitik | george_looney: port forwarding |
| 16:16.52 | george_looney | yeah, but I think he has his 2 routers in cascade order |
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| 16:17.08 | vivek | lunitik: i have got one of my routres to forward to the pc ip .. now i am getting the other one to do it |
| 16:17.26 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal!!!!!! |
| 16:17.31 | george_looney | oh ok, so 2 routers to 2 ISPs |
| 16:17.39 | lunitik | vivek: thats likely your issue right now... no route to the computer from outside |
| 16:17.44 | vivek | does ddclient use the normal http port ? it should have no problems getting across right ? |
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| 16:18.09 | vivek | lunitik: ddclient sholud be independent of ssh right ? |
| 16:18.14 | vivek | that's what worries me |
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| 16:18.40 | lunitik | vivek: no experience with ddclient ... I just use IP's ... |
| 16:18.44 | vivek | lunitik: the first router should forward to the socend router ? |
| 16:18.57 | george_looney | vivek: you got it now |
| 16:18.59 | vivek | or to my pc ip directly ? |
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| 16:19.13 | vivek | george_looney: so use the ip address of my second router ? |
| 16:19.32 | lunitik | vivek: I think I misunderstood your setup... if your connection is: internet > router1 > router2 > computer ... then yes... if both routers go to the internet, then no |
| 16:19.34 | george_looney | vivek: yes, and again second router port forwards to PC |
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| 16:20.42 | lunitik | vivek: you need to be connecting to the correct external IP... the one to the internet... there are sites that will tell you your external IP... then there needs to be a route to the computer from there |
| 16:20.56 | vivek | lunitik: internet>router1>router2>computer ... |
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| 16:21.09 | vivek | internet access is only via router1 |
| 16:21.16 | george_looney | vivek: so you have to do port forwarding twice |
| 16:21.19 | lunitik | vivek: then router1 should forward to router2 |
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| 16:21.39 | tojik | !tell tojik -about sound |
| 16:21.52 | vivek | ok i need to get onto the second router physically one sec i will disconnect and be back ... |
| 16:21.55 | lunitik | vivek: my router has a static route setting... you may want to take a look at that |
| 16:22.07 | george_looney | !tell george_looney -about apt-get |
| 16:22.13 | vivek | lunitik: i have a static route setting for router2 to my debian box |
| 16:22.19 | asg | george_looney: you can /msg the bot also |
| 16:22.23 | vivek | i will try and the same for router 1 |
| 16:22.38 | george_looney | asg: cool |
| 16:22.41 | lunitik | vivek: ok... and look into static routes as I said |
| 16:23.01 | lunitik | vivek: if your routers are doing dynamic things, then it'll make your job harder |
| 16:23.28 | vivek | lunitik: got it use dynamic and then assign specific ips ? will that work ? |
| 16:23.38 | vivek | with mac addressing ? |
| 16:24.00 | george_looney | I am sleepy gotta go people |
| 16:24.12 | george_looney | Shubh Raatri ;) |
| 16:24.14 | vivek | george_looney: gn and tnx for helping out |
| 16:24.23 | george_looney | no problem |
| 16:24.27 | vivek | george_looney: shivratri here :) |
| 16:24.33 | george_looney | lol |
| 16:24.41 | lunitik | vivek: I have dynamic IP's for all computers except the one I want to access from the outside world... |
| 16:24.43 | vivek | got a train at 11.30 |
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| 16:25.45 | streuner | !hurry |
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| 16:29.16 | jair | guys I know it is a very handy command line debian software for bittorrent? it can start several downloadsat the same time anyone remember it? |
| 16:29.29 | asg | jair: bittornado? |
| 16:29.48 | jair | asg: I think that is a gui, the one I am talking about is all text mode |
| 16:30.01 | asg | jair: bittornado has both a gui and a cli mode |
| 16:30.53 | EdLin | jair: rtornado |
| 16:30.56 | jair | asg: give me an example of how you use it, and I will be able to tell if is the one I used last time. |
| 16:31.00 | jair | nope |
| 16:31.09 | SerajewelKS | does debian have a good kad client? |
| 16:31.18 | jair | the name was very simple let me look for it in the apt-cache |
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| 16:31.50 | pabs3 | EdLin: you mean rtorrent? |
| 16:31.56 | EdLin | pabs3: yes |
| 16:32.09 | jair | bittorrent - Scatter-gather network file transfer this one :) |
| 16:32.52 | jair | EdLin: bittorrent is the name of it. But I would like to find the manual about how to use it, it was a very nice handy manual on the web, I will have to research about it. |
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| 16:33.33 | sussudio | jair: are you going to be using the torrent client on public or private trackers? |
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| 16:33.49 | EdLin | jair: check out /usr/share/doc/bittorrent - maybe its docs are there |
| 16:33.57 | jair | sussudio: both |
| 16:34.05 | jair | EdLin: good idea ;) |
| 16:34.06 | sussudio | jair: skip rtorrent then. |
| 16:34.12 | jair | sussudio: I know |
| 16:34.27 | jair | sussudio: never consider it, did not know what features had yet |
| 16:34.34 | zinx | sussudio: for which reason? |
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| 16:34.38 | jair | but bittorent is neet. |
| 16:34.45 | StFS | anybody know why I don't get this package up in aptitude: http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 16:34.50 | mohkohn | hello. I can't get my wireless eth1 to go up. I am trying iwconfig and gnome network setting but nothing seems to work |
| 16:34.56 | sussudio | zinx: it doesn't report proper stats to the tracker and it hammers it. |
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| 16:35.13 | zinx | sussudio: interesting |
| 16:35.29 | sussudio | zinx: bittornado hammers too in its default configuration. |
| 16:36.10 | zinx | sussudio: what about, say, azureus? |
| 16:36.21 | mohkohn | tried mii-tool eth1 but I get the error SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed; MESSAGE |
| 16:36.25 | zinx | (apart from it being a huge java app that sucks resources to no end) |
| 16:36.26 | sussudio | zinx: 2.3.0.6 and up are okay |
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| 16:36.31 | proof | hi all |
| 16:36.43 | mohkohn | oops hit caps lock |
| 16:36.43 | proof | i can't transfer files containing more than 1406 bytes of data from an host using openssh 4.3p2 to a debian box using 4.3p2 |
| 16:36.48 | sussudio | zinx: _if_ you use the sun jvm. |
| 16:36.53 | proof | any hints? |
| 16:36.55 | zinx | sussudio: heh :) |
| 16:37.13 | zinx | proof: bad MTU? |
| 16:37.16 | sussudio | zinx: blackdown will get you banned |
| 16:37.24 | zinx | sussudio: that's really weird |
| 16:37.50 | roxy_ | I am looking for back up storage for my home debian. Is usb harddrive the best way to go ? |
| 16:38.11 | Daedalus_ | roxy_: How much data are we talking about? |
| 16:38.26 | proof | zinx: perhaps, have to check that |
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| 16:38.52 | roxy_ | Daedalus_: nothing big, about 50Go atm, would be maybe 300Go in 5 years |
| 16:39.05 | proof | zinx: its an usb to usb connection |
| 16:39.17 | RvGaTe | stoned, ya there ? |
| 16:39.19 | proof | zinx: both devices use MTU 1500 |
| 16:39.50 | StFS | I have a debian server with an AMD Opteron CPU. I'm trying to install the linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 package but it doesn't show up in aptitude. Here's my main sources.list line "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main" and this package shows up when I search for it on http://packages.debian.org (http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8) |
| 16:40.07 | vivek | hello all, if i disable nat and firewall settings will that expose all the ports of my second router to the internet (internet>router1>router2) ? |
| 16:40.10 | vivek | i am disabling the same in router 1 ... |
| 16:40.13 | Daedalus_ | roxy_: I preffer the RAID method, but a firewire external drive would be OK too. Or if you can pick up an old tape drive, that would work too. |
| 16:40.22 | zinx | StFS: have you run aptitude update? |
| 16:40.31 | StFS | zinx: a number of times yes |
| 16:40.53 | Daedalus_ | roxy_: if you do USB, make sure it's USB 2.0. Life is too short to wait for a v1.1 transfer of that size. |
| 16:40.57 | roxy_ | Daedalus_: wouldn't usb be cheaper than firewire ? I don't care if it is slower |
| 16:41.09 | asg | proof: check the duplex and speed between your interface and switch |
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| 16:41.14 | roxy_ | Daedalus_: I mean usb2.0 |
| 16:41.17 | zinx | StFS: sure you're not making a typo somewhere? |
| 16:41.24 | StFS | zinx: yup |
| 16:41.27 | zinx | StFS: try apt-cache search linux-image |
| 16:41.31 | asg | proof: also, see if /sbin/ifconfig shows errors and/or collisions |
| 16:41.38 | Daedalus_ | roxy_: sure. |
| 16:41.52 | zinx | StFS: otherwise.. it's entirely possible you have the i386 port installed, rather than the amd64 one |
| 16:41.55 | roxy_ | Daedalus_: thanks |
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| 16:42.17 | StFS | zinx: apt-cache only reported k7 packages... no k8 package |
| 16:42.32 | zinx | StFS: Then you have the i386 port. |
| 16:42.36 | StFS | zinx: and I do have some i386 packages now |
| 16:42.43 | jones- | hi. How can I write finnish vowels on my non-finnish keyboard? |
| 16:42.46 | LoneShadow | Anyone know a easier way to build a read only rootfs ? This is for a diskless device using read only nfs rootfs |
| 16:43.08 | LoneShadow | I am having issues with making /dev and /var as tmpfs |
| 16:43.09 | proof | zinx: you are my HERO today! it works with an MTU of 1407.... strange that copying files from debian box to zaurus worked! |
| 16:43.16 | zinx | proof: indeed |
| 16:43.22 | StFS | zinx: do I need a specific installation CD for this? is it not possible to "upgrade" from what I have to amd64? |
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| 16:43.57 | zinx | StFS: you need a specific installation CD |
| 16:44.06 | StFS | zinx: I see... thanks dude! |
| 16:44.17 | mohkohn | Why would I get Access Point: Invalid after running iwconfig? |
| 16:44.24 | zinx | StFS: i think you can run a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace, but i don't know the details, and it's not supported in debian |
| 16:44.49 | zinx | StFS: You need 64-bit utilities to interact with the kernel interfaces, in any case, and it'll be a big pain |
| 16:45.01 | pabs3 | StFS: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id272465 |
| 16:45.08 | infernix | i did just that. but that doesnt work with fglrx drivers. its no problem tho |
| 16:45.22 | zinx | StFS: so long as you don't need flash/mplayer, it's best to run the amd64 port of debian |
| 16:45.50 | StFS | zinx: hmm... ok so you're saying that I should use the ia64 install cd right? |
| 16:45.57 | zinx | StFS: No. |
| 16:45.59 | zinx | StFS: amd64 |
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| 16:46.11 | zinx | StFS: ia64 is for a dead intel chipset |
| 16:46.16 | infernix | amd64. you could use debian from scratch as well, and just compile your 64bit kernel from there |
| 16:46.27 | infernix | that saves an install if you want 64bit kernel on 32bit userspace |
| 16:46.31 | StFS | ahh ok. |
| 16:46.32 | zinx | infernix: the tools like modprobe have to be 64-bit, afaik |
| 16:46.45 | zinx | infernix: with a 64-bit kernel |
| 16:47.03 | infernix | zinx: tbh i dont think so. 64bit modules got inserted fine in 32bit userspace last time i tried |
| 16:47.11 | zinx | hmm, k |
| 16:48.07 | StFS | ok.. I was confused about the netinst image... it didn't have any amd64 option... |
| 16:48.27 | zinx | !d-i StFS |
| 16:48.27 | dpkg | StFS, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:48.34 | zinx | uhm |
| 16:48.39 | zinx | except not sarge? :P |
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| 16:48.58 | zinx | you need the etch installer i think |
| 16:49.03 | infernix | real men use debian from scratch and debootstrap anyway. |
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| 16:49.57 | zinx | eheheh, there's no release of the etch installer with the proper archives, apparently :D |
| 16:49.58 | shining | real men don't use computers |
| 16:49.59 | pabs3 | there are sarge netinst cds: www.debian.org/ports/amd64 -> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 16:50.04 | yang | I have troubles detecting SCSI scanner, I am using a PCI scsi card from adaptec, it loads correctly and it also detects the scsi TAPE device. |
| 16:50.06 | infernix | haha |
| 16:50.33 | zinx | pabs3: ah, k |
| 16:50.37 | infernix | yang: is your scsi bus properly terminated? |
| 16:51.16 | yang | infernix: well i dont know about that...there is only one scsi cable inside, which goes to a TAPE device, and the outside plug is where scanner come sin |
| 16:52.02 | infernix | yang: scsi buses always need proper termination, and it depends on how the devices are hooked up + how the card defines its scsi busses. i'd google on scsi termination and read up about it. chances are your scanner has a switch for it |
| 16:52.49 | yang | infernix: so, you think there are switches on my scanner somewhere, its an ancient HP scanner |
| 16:52.59 | infernix | yang: and depending on the card, it should have jumpers or a firmware setting for termination |
| 16:53.01 | pabs3 | zinx: etch beta2 amd64 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/amd64/ |
| 16:53.20 | infernix | yang: well if its really really ancient, you probably have 2 ports on your scanner, on which one should be a physical terminator |
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| 16:54.34 | StFS | there's a netinst ISO at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:55.15 | zinx | StFS: the beta2 netinst doesn't work due to the mirror change |
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| 16:55.33 | StFS | zinx: what mirror change? |
| 16:55.48 | yang | infernix: there is one LPT port behind, ADDRESS (which is 5 now) and TERM (which is + ) |
| 16:55.55 | zinx | StFS: amd64 used to be on separate mirrors that only had amd64 |
| 16:56.08 | zinx | StFS: amd64 has since moved to the main debian mirrors (like, ftp.debian.org) |
| 16:56.19 | StFS | zinx: oh great... so my only option is to download the whole 8 CD set or? |
| 16:56.20 | yang | infernix: and previously it worked in redhat, now since i got debian it fails |
| 16:56.32 | zinx | StFS: generally you only need the first CD anyway |
| 16:56.34 | infernix | yang: you didnt mention that:) |
| 16:56.37 | Pryon | no, the netinst image is only 150MB or so. |
| 16:56.52 | StFS | zinx: ok.... I'll give that a go |
| 16:57.24 | yang | infernix: maybe i need to load some additional drivers? |
| 16:57.24 | zinx | StFS: there are sarge images that may work too |
| 16:57.27 | infernix | yang: apt-get install scsitools; scsiinfo -l |
| 16:57.36 | zinx | StFS: and i'm pretty sure that somewhere there are snapshots for the etch installer |
| 16:57.50 | zinx | StFS: you should, of course, read the errata and current issues |
| 16:58.24 | infernix | yang: and i guess a scsi scanner needs to use the scsi general module, so 'modprobe sg' |
| 16:59.01 | yang | scsiinfo -l shows /dev/nst0 /dev/nst1 /dev/nst2 /dev/nst3 /dev/nst4 /dev/nst5 /dev/nst6 |
| 16:59.09 | yang | that is all tape devices |
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| 16:59.17 | infernix | yang: do the modprobe sg first |
| 16:59.17 | StFS | zinx: allright... I'll give it a go later today |
| 16:59.20 | yang | i did |
| 16:59.24 | StFS | zinx: thanks |
| 16:59.40 | zinx | Pyron: which etch netinst? |
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| 16:59.45 | Pryon | amd64 |
| 16:59.52 | zinx | Pyron: no, which version |
| 17:00.09 | t35t0r | anyone know how to get grub to tell you which kernel file under /boot it loaded? |
| 17:00.12 | zinx | Pyron: and was it before or after the mirrors changed? :D |
| 17:00.17 | Pryon | It was Friday |
| 17:00.26 | Pryon | debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 17:00.45 | zinx | Pyron: the etch installer hasn't been released. there's beta1, beta2 and various snapshots |
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| 17:00.55 | zinx | Pyron: it does no good to say it worked without know which version it was that worked |
| 17:01.10 | Pryon | I guess I don't know what you mean by version |
| 17:01.23 | zinx | Pryon: the etch installer hasn't been released. there's beta1, beta2 and various snapshots |
| 17:01.52 | Pryon | Lemme mount it and see |
| 17:02.44 | infernix | yang: try and find out if the scanner is being seen by the scsi driver (less /var/log/dmesg). |
| 17:02.49 | Pryon | Debian GNU/Linux testing "Etch" - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 |
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| 17:03.17 | zinx | so it's a snapshot |
| 17:04.01 | zinx | ah, there's the page |
| 17:04.03 | zinx | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 17:04.14 | yang | infernix: the last dmesg result was this http://paste.debian.net/9154 |
| 17:04.22 | Pryon | right |
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| 17:04.44 | zinx | and pick a snapshot, after reading the known issues |
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| 17:04.58 | zinx | since, as stated, beta2 will not work. :P |
| 17:05.04 | yang | infernix: full dmesg is here http://paste.debian.net/9155 |
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| 17:06.37 | Pryon | I have no clue which beta this is, but the date on the release is: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:00:26 UTC |
| 17:06.41 | infernix | yang: pretty weird to see that there is a tapestreamer detected on 6 ids. |
| 17:06.54 | zinx | Pyron: it's not a beta, it's a snapshot |
| 17:07.02 | Pryon | I see. |
| 17:07.06 | zinx | Pyron: Snapshots are built daily. |
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| 17:08.25 | yang | infernix: maybe i will open the box and check if there are some terminators on PCI card |
| 17:09.57 | mohkohn | Trying dhclient eth1 SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory |
| 17:10.19 | mohkohn | Can anybody tell me how to fix this? |
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| 17:11.42 | yang_ | mohkohn: you are missing that interface |
| 17:12.22 | mohkohn | yang it shows up in gnome networking and iwconfig |
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| 17:12.45 | mohkohn | how do I activate it? |
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| 17:13.49 | yang_ | mohkohn: so its a wireless device |
| 17:14.21 | yang_ | infernix: my adaptec PCI card had |
| 17:14.25 | mohkohn | yes yang. trying to connect to an airport express |
| 17:14.27 | yang_ | infernix: my adaptec PCI card has no termination options |
| 17:14.30 | m1ke_l | hi...reinstalled debian and x and gnoem....x wont start complaining of missing fixed fonts |
| 17:14.35 | m1ke_l | what did i forget to apt-get? |
| 17:14.48 | roxy_ | Is there an app to reset the counter of region change of dvd player ? |
| 17:14.56 | mohkohn | This card worked right away dhcp with ubuntu previously. I am now using debian. |
| 17:15.30 | errorlevel | roxy_: Not really. Some DVD players, though, have firmware that you can flash to give you some extra region changes. |
| 17:15.41 | rockstar_ | Anyone one know package I can find the automake macro AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE? I've googled to no avail. |
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| 17:16.39 | mohkohn | This should just be iwconfig eth1 and up it comes. But not working. |
| 17:17.31 | roxy_ | errorlevel: anything usable repeatidly ? My gf got zone I dvd and I got zone II. Would that be possible to reset say once a week without problem. I could just buy a second dvd player. |
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| 17:18.01 | errorlevel | roxy_: I don't know. It depends on the player and the firmware. |
| 17:18.42 | murosai | where are the keyboard layouts located? |
| 17:19.42 | roxy_ | errorlevel: ok, thanks |
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| 17:20.37 | mohkohn | iwlist scan gives me eth 1 Interface doesn't support scanning |
| 17:20.46 | rockstar_ | m1ke_l, try apt-get install xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xfonts-base |
| 17:21.19 | lunitik | rockstar_: ahh... thats installed by default via xorg/x-window-system-core |
| 17:21.25 | errorlevel | mohkohn: Does 'ifconfig eth1' even show that eth1 exists? |
| 17:21.58 | mohkohn | errorlevel: yes it shows up |
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| 17:22.53 | mohkohn | but it fails using mii-tool |
| 17:23.16 | mohkohn | eth1 also shwos up with iwconfig |
| 17:23.22 | rockstar_ | lunitik, hasn't been installed by default for me the last three times I've installed... |
| 17:23.23 | mohkohn | shows up |
| 17:23.34 | rockstar_ | I've had to manually install them. |
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| 17:25.17 | lunitik | rockstar_: weird... apt-cache show xorg ... or apt-cache show x-window-system-core |
| 17:25.26 | lunitik | rockstar_: those packages are listed here... |
| 17:25.32 | pabs3 | btw folk: new sarge kernel security update released (for those local root sploits) |
| 17:25.35 | lunitik | (Sid, thus xorg..) |
| 17:25.52 | rockstar_ | lunitik, are you on sarge? |
| 17:25.56 | rockstar_ | I use etch and sid. |
| 17:26.46 | lunitik | rockstar_: apt-cache show xorg then... (x-window-system-core is obsolete and depends only xorg for transitional purposes) |
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| 17:27.14 | rockstar_ | lunitik, ah, apt-cache show xserver-xorg |
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| 17:27.29 | rockstar_ | That's why I was getting that error, he probably did the same. |
| 17:27.38 | lunitik | rockstar_: meh... thats your fault then... you wanted 'xorg' not 'xserver-xorg' :/ |
| 17:28.04 | dut | abrotman, gEDA is really perfect program! Thank you again! :D |
| 17:28.05 | rockstar_ | lunitik, it works though! --:o) |
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| 17:29.40 | mohkohn | how do you bring a wireless eth1 up? |
| 17:29.42 | Scrippie | confidential |
| 17:29.57 | mohkohn | iwconfig eth1 up? |
| 17:30.03 | rockstar_ | mohkohn, depends... |
| 17:30.20 | rockstar_ | I configure with iwconfig, and then I use ifconfig to bring it up. |
| 17:30.24 | rockstar_ | Usually just dhclient though. |
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| 17:30.39 | fxiny | 19:30 < mohkohn> how do you bring a wireless eth1 up? |
| 17:30.39 | fxiny | 19:30 < Scrippie> confidential |
| 17:30.39 | fxiny | 19:30 < mohkohn> iwconfig eth1 up? |
| 17:30.48 | fxiny | sorry |
| 17:31.52 | mohkohn | rockstar I just get network is unreachable |
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| 17:32.31 | mohkohn | down I mean....and I know the network works. Or I would not be able to irc you. |
| 17:33.15 | dabreegster | mohkohn: What if you're imagining these responses due to insanity caused by lack of real online time? |
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| 17:34.14 | mohkohn | dabreegster: Like a parrellel universe on star trek or somthing. I am in nederlands but I am not smoking any neder-weed at the moment! |
| 17:34.58 | rockstar_ | mohkohn, do an ifconfig | grep "inet addr" |
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| 17:35.30 | yang | infernix: still there? |
| 17:35.38 | w00t- | weed suck |
| 17:35.41 | w00t- | beer is cool |
| 17:36.24 | mohkohn | inet addr:127,0.0.1 Mask 255.0..0.0 |
| 17:36.42 | mohkohn | that should be 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:36.43 | lunitik | w00t-: beer takes away self control, and makes you puke... and makes the world spin uncontrollably |
| 17:36.48 | mohkohn | no comma |
| 17:36.59 | lunitik | w00t-: weed just makes you hungry and lazy |
| 17:37.12 | w00t- | weed suck |
| 17:37.26 | mohkohn | I persoanly like fine Australian red wines when working on my pc |
| 17:37.30 | lunitik | w00t-: so does beer, out of the two, I'd rather smoke a joint |
| 17:38.01 | lunitik | w00t-: at least when high, you're still aware of your actions... and in control of them |
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| 17:39.04 | lunitik | w00t-: no one ever blacked out from smoking a joint |
| 17:39.23 | rockstar_ | I just installed kate, but I can't find the icon. Anyone know where it might be hiding? |
| 17:39.45 | mohkohn | The ip for the apple express is 10.0.1.1 |
| 17:39.55 | w00t- | anyway weed suck |
| 17:40.05 | lunitik | rockstar_: dpkg -L kate | grep icons ? |
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| 17:40.40 | rockstar_ | lunitik, cool, didn't know about that. |
| 17:40.45 | rockstar_ | Fank you |
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| 17:41.33 | lunitik | rockstar_: should be in the default folder when using kmenuedit though... just enter kate into search field |
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| 17:42.04 | seeds | might be in utilities rockstar_ |
| 17:42.20 | lunitik | seeds: don't guess |
| 17:42.25 | yang | my scanner utility xsane, is using Tuner as a scanning device, where can i change it to use the /dev/sg1 scanner device? |
| 17:42.43 | mohkohn | Is anybody here using apple airport express on their wireless network. And who is familiar with both OS X and debian? |
| 17:42.45 | seeds | utilities editors |
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| 17:43.29 | rockstar_ | lunitik, I hate kde. Just like Gnome a lot. |
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| 17:43.29 | jabka | how to connect to skype via debian .. |
| 17:44.11 | rockstar_ | mohkohn, You're not getting any ip address. Do dhclient eth1 |
| 17:44.19 | lunitik | jabka: wait for next release ... or search google for kopete plugin maybe? |
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| 17:44.42 | lunitik | jabka: Skype for Linux currently only supports OSS |
| 17:44.48 | abrotman | dut: glad you like it .. don't forget to let the developers know how much you enjoy it .. |
| 17:45.27 | wireddd | what pcmcia wireless cards have the best driver support? |
| 17:45.30 | mohkohn | rockstar: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory ....and network is down |
| 17:45.39 | jabka | <lunitik> the problem is that im unable to connect to the server |
| 17:45.39 | lunitik | rockstar_: seems its cool to hate KDE ... personally, I like software that doesn't assume I'm a moron, maybe thats just me though |
| 17:45.46 | w00t- | is normal on dsl i got trouble to install ircd or eggdrop ? |
| 17:45.51 | w00t- | i only need gcc package ? |
| 17:45.54 | w00t- | or other |
| 17:46.36 | jabka | <lunitik> their is no error in the terminal but im getting an error : Loggin Failed |
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| 17:47.42 | lunitik | jabka: no idea... I've only used Skype briefly via Kopete ... its not supported by Debian though, so you're asking in the wrong place either way |
| 17:48.15 | jabka | <lunitik> thnx .. |
| 17:49.29 | EdLin | !dsl |
| 17:49.30 | dpkg | i heard dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 17:49.45 | EdLin | dsl != Linux |
| 17:49.50 | EdLin | dsl != Debian Linux |
| 17:49.56 | EdLin | oops |
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| 17:50.56 | jabka | <lunitik> i just installed kopete but i can't c skype protocol there |
| 17:51.22 | dut | abrotman, yeah. okay! |
| 17:51.33 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:52.20 | lunitik | jabka: http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete skype/ |
| 17:53.31 | lunitik | jabka: its basically a wrapper for Skype ... but makes Skype fit into KDE better ... |
| 17:53.45 | mohkohn | I really can't understand why on the same laptop ndiswrapper just worked under ubuntu and now won't with debian. I just had to point and click in the Network Settings in gnome. |
| 17:54.14 | mohkohn | the same should work in debian I would have thought |
| 17:54.23 | lunitik | mohkohn: Ubuntu holds your hand, Debian doesn't |
| 17:54.36 | mohkohn | gnome is gnome |
| 17:55.38 | lunitik | mohkohn: umm, Ubuntu sets up ndiswrapper for you, precompiled and functional in restricted ... Debian wants you to set it up |
| 17:55.48 | streuner | ubuntu is OT here |
| 17:55.57 | mohkohn | OT? |
| 17:56.04 | wireddd | off topic |
| 17:56.04 | streuner | if you want discuss ubuntu go to #ubuntu |
| 17:56.05 | dabreegster | off-topic |
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| 17:57.20 | lunitik | Ubuntu == Debian for morons |
| 17:57.40 | mohkohn | I have been asking debian questions for over an hour. specifically how to bring a wireless card up. |
| 17:57.49 | wireddd | Ubuntu == Debian for Dummies |
| 17:57.53 | mohkohn | what works on one should work on the other |
| 17:58.01 | mohkohn | wireddd grow up |
| 17:58.14 | lunitik | mohkohn: sure, if you know what you're doing... |
| 17:58.28 | mohkohn | there is a certain type of debian defensiveness. |
| 17:59.00 | petemc | some of the smartest people i know use ubuntu... |
| 17:59.22 | w00t- | Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile.à |
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| 17:59.27 | mohkohn | a lot of debian developers are also ubuntu developers |
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| 17:59.36 | streuner | all smart people i know are peope who using debian |
| 17:59.44 | jabka | <lunitik> found the issue (you have to delete old skype dir) |
| 17:59.54 | mohkohn | I am going back to ubuntu. It is a lot freindlier |
| 18:00.04 | jabka | is it atical to run IE on debian ? .. |
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| 18:00.17 | streuner | sure |
| 18:00.27 | lunitik | jabka: via wine ... sure |
| 18:00.45 | wireddd | it isn't defensiveness, it is just that just because product X works a certain way, don't expect debian to work that way. Ubuntu has a much narrower focus than debian does so there is alot more that can be automated for you, debian tries to remain very flexable so it can be used in as many situations as possible |
| 18:00.50 | streuner | if i would say in #ubuntu, debian is better than ubuntu, lets look if they are friendly then. |
| 18:01.12 | azeem | did he say ubuntu was better? |
| 18:01.22 | lunitik | streuner: he means "I am going back to Ubuntu, it holds my hand more" :/ |
| 18:01.32 | streuner | well, he said its a lot of easier |
| 18:01.36 | streuner | some things |
| 18:01.51 | streuner | azeem: yes |
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| 18:02.10 | lunitik | streuner: no... it didn't utter those words |
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| 18:02.21 | infernix | look, its just that many debian folks dont know the exact details of how ubuntu does things and can thus only give general advice. and thats exactly why not to ask specific questions about it here. |
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| 18:02.27 | lunitik | streuner: that is just how you are interpreting his words |
| 18:02.32 | infernix | you can replace ubuntu with slackware, redhat, suse or whatnot |
| 18:02.36 | infernix | same applies |
| 18:02.50 | jabka | lunitik : nope i ment is ok to run it .. |
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| 18:04.08 | wireddd | can someone in here give me a little guidance as to what pcmcia wireless card I should get if I want to use it with sarge? |
| 18:04.15 | lunitik | jabka: it won't effect anything on your Linux system ... just your .wine dir ... so its safer than running it on Windows |
| 18:04.28 | EdLin | jabka: it's OK to run whatever you want, even Windows. It's not OK to talk about it on the #debian channel though, is it. |
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| 18:04.58 | lunitik | EdLin: wine is in main ... so its on topic... albeit indirectly |
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| 18:05.44 | infernix | jabka: last time I checked, running IE on wine became unsupported. ask in #winehq on irc.linpeople.org |
| 18:05.48 | jabka | <EdLin> if you don't ask you will not know .. |
| 18:06.23 | lunitik | infernix: afaik, IE <6 works fine ... |
| 18:06.39 | jabka | i know how , the issue is that didn't knew if im allowed (with the idea of debian .. ) |
| 18:06.44 | infernix | all i say is that I read that wine broke IE support |
| 18:06.55 | infernix | regardless of which version of IE |
| 18:07.19 | infernix | more info should be in the appdb on winehq.org |
| 18:07.29 | EdLin | jabka: whether or not you consider free software to be an ethical imperative is up to you. |
| 18:07.47 | lunitik | jabka: umm, its your computer... says in social contact that Debian will support use of, just not provide, such things |
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| 18:11.31 | jabka | the reason i ask that im moving few system from mdk & red hat to debian .. |
| 18:12.26 | jabka | and i wish to make them as good as i can (in debian style ;-) ) |
| 18:12.37 | lunitik | jabka: Debian doesn't care what you do with your computer... it strictly sets out to empower you to do what you want... |
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| 18:13.42 | jabka | <lunitik> 10x i got an idea what to do .. |
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| 18:17.40 | jabka | good evening to all .. |
| 18:18.21 | jabka | let peace will come open us (i live in the Meadle East) |
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| 18:20.36 | seeds | ya peace no doubt is all the world needs |
| 18:21.59 | Daedalus_ | A few dope-slaps and several good spankings would also be in order |
| 18:22.07 | seeds | hehehe |
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| 18:25.26 | w00t- | gunzip < tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz |
| 18:25.26 | w00t- | gunzip: Invalid magic |
| 18:25.30 | w00t- | any can help me |
| 18:25.57 | Daedalus_ | w00t-: have you tried tar -zxf myfile.tar.gz? |
| 18:26.04 | Gumby | tar -zxvf .... nm |
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| 18:26.43 | Vasistha | so, how can I get apm working with the 2.6 kernel?? I'm just dumbfounded at this point, nothing makes sense. |
| 18:27.45 | w00t- | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 18:27.46 | w00t- | tar: Child returned status 1 |
| 18:27.46 | w00t- | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 18:27.47 | Daedalus_ | Vasistha: I thought acpi had replaced apm. Are you working with hardware that doesn't support acpi? |
| 18:27.54 | w00t- | when i try tar -zxvf |
| 18:27.55 | Vasistha | Daedalus_: yeah, 1999 hardware |
| 18:28.16 | Daedalus_ | w00t-: Probably a bad file then. Try re-downloading? |
| 18:28.46 | Vasistha | dmseg says, "ACPI disabled because your bios is from 1999 and too old" ... however I passed noacpi acpi=off to the kernel as a boot parameter, so I'm not sure why the kernel should be even attempting to look at acpi like this |
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| 18:29.09 | Daedalus_ | Vasistha: suck. I've never tried to get apm working in 2.6. |
| 18:29.43 | w00t- | Daedalus_ not a bad file |
| 18:29.44 | w00t- | :\ |
| 18:29.46 | Daedalus_ | I wouldn't worry about that error message. ACPI is being disabled, which is the important part. They might have implemented the checks in the wrong order... *shrugs* Same outcome though |
| 18:30.00 | Daedalus_ | w00t-: how do you know? The program seems to think it's bad. |
| 18:30.21 | w00t- | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz |
| 18:30.22 | w00t- | ... |
| 18:30.31 | Gumby | does anyone here know how to generate the file list that apt-file update downloads from the repos when it is called? |
| 18:30.40 | Vasistha | Daedalus_: yeah, I think you're right, I'm now noticing that that's listed on the line before the kernel command line parameters listing |
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| 18:31.09 | fxiny | w00t-: is a tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz: HTML document t |
| 18:31.45 | Daedalus_ | Yes |
| 18:31.57 | Daedalus_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:34.30 | jelly-home | Gumby: dpkg-scanpackage generates Packages file |
| 18:34.36 | Daedalus_ | w00t-: if you open that page in a browser, you should be able to download the package. It's about 3.5 MB |
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| 18:34.48 | Gumby | jelly-home: thanks for that info |
| 18:34.49 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all! |
| 18:35.02 | w00t- | ya is bad file |
| 18:35.02 | w00t- | :) |
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| 18:35.22 | fxiny | w00t-: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/tcl8.4.13-src.tar.gz?use_mirror=kent |
| 18:35.38 | Vasistha | according to make /boot/config-2.6.8-3-686 CONFIG_APM=m ... so I would assume it ought to be available. Perhaps there is a module package that I need to install?? |
| 18:35.57 | Daedalus_ | w00t-: I just downloaded it and unpacked it. There exists a good copy somewhere. I used the US-East mirror |
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| 18:36.18 | Daedalus_ | Vasistha: well, that's configuring it as a modle. |
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| 18:36.25 | Daedalus_ | err module |
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| 18:36.35 | jelly-home | Gumby: maybe see also /msg dpkg repository |
| 18:36.46 | w00t- | kthx Daedalus_ |
| 18:36.56 | BlackBishop | anyone can help me with this bc hex calc ? |
| 18:37.03 | BlackBishop | ab+1 should give ac ! |
| 18:37.14 | BlackBishop | diamond:~$ echo "obase=16; ab + 1" | bc |
| 18:37.15 | BlackBishop | 1 |
| 18:37.18 | BlackBishop | weird |
| 18:37.22 | BlackBishop | diamond:~$ echo "ibase=16; obase=16; ab + 1" | bc |
| 18:37.22 | BlackBishop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.24 | Gumby | jelly-home: thanks a bunch. |
| 18:37.27 | syntaxx | i installed mysql source how can i make it to start at boot? i followed a link for running mysql at boot but it doesnt seem to start at boot |
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| 18:37.40 | Gumby | BlackBishop: you might want to use a pastebin instead of pasting here |
| 18:37.52 | Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.52 | Vasistha | Daedalus_: yeah ... unfortunately I just don't understand exactly what that means. It seems that some modules are available by default, and some I have to download. But the only packages p.d.o lists with 'apm' in the name (which could be relevant) are apmd and libapm1, and I have both of those installed |
| 18:37.58 | Gumby | doh, damn space |
| 18:38.06 | BlackBishop | Gumby well .. that's all I had to paste :)) |
| 18:38.09 | BlackBishop | 2 lines for things |
| 18:38.40 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: use upper case hex only. |
| 18:38.54 | Vasistha | ha!! All I had to do is modprobe apm !!! |
| 18:39.53 | BlackBishop | jelly-home can I pm ya' a lil' ? |
| 18:40.21 | Daedalus_ | Vasistha: kernel modules like APM are packaged in with the kernel. There's nothing extra to download |
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| 18:41.48 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: Please don't. Also. when you changes ibase, all subsequent commands use it, including the assignment to special variable obase, so "ibase=16; obase=10; AB+1" |
| 18:42.37 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: or "obase=16; ibase=16; AB+1". |
| 18:43.27 | BlackBishop | yey obase=16; ibase=16 :P |
| 18:44.02 | BlackBishop | now .. I need a way to convert from lower to upper case things :) |
| 18:44.36 | w00t- | ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:44.37 | w00t- | make: *** [modules] Error 127 |
| 18:44.37 | BlackBishop | if $a=ac .. how am I supposed to make it AC ? |
| 18:44.38 | w00t- | shit |
| 18:44.39 | w00t- | :\ |
| 18:44.51 | BlackBishop | w00t- 1. don't use precompiled ! |
| 18:44.58 | BlackBishop | 2. install the damn thingy first ! |
| 18:45.02 | BlackBishop | ( tcl libs that is ! ) |
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| 18:45.16 | jelly-home | a=$(echo $a|tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]') in general. You won't need G-Z though. |
| 18:45.40 | w00t- | i installed tcl8.4.13 |
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| 18:45.56 | ttyfscker | hey can someone possibly help with a webcam issue. I have a Logitech Quickcam Notebook Pro (046d:08c3) and the only driver that will work for it in linux is uvcvideo.. I can get ekiga to recognize the webcam just fine.. but the main thing i need to use it for doesnt work.. Its a flash based videochat software that works through your browser.. I have read on uvc's website that the driver currently only works with v4l2 software |
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| 18:47.01 | ttyfscker | wouldnt flash detect things on v4l2? in the video device settings in flash it says it found USB Video Device.. but it still doesnt initialize the cam.. |
| 18:47.37 | jelly-home | w00t-: what's wrong with Debian's eggdrop? |
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| 18:54.03 | w00t- | ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:54.48 | streuner | !find libtcl8.4.so |
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| 18:56.35 | streuner | knusper:/home/user# apt-file search libtcl8.4.so |
| 18:56.35 | streuner | tcl8.4: usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0 |
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| 19:00.17 | BlackBishop | jelly-home |
| 19:00.38 | BlackBishop | diamond:~$ echo "obase=16; ibase=16; 00+1" | bc |
| 19:00.38 | BlackBishop | 1 |
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| 19:00.46 | BlackBishop | is there a way to make this thingy be 01 ? |
| 19:00.49 | BlackBishop | the result I mean |
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| 19:01.05 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: no idea |
| 19:01.14 | Althaser | where should be the eggdrop.conf to run it ? please |
| 19:01.24 | BlackBishop | lewl |
| 19:01.27 | BlackBishop | kiddie day today ! |
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| 19:01.38 | jelly-home | It's Sunday. |
| 19:01.57 | BlackBishop | yeah .. .free day for them to come out and play |
| 19:03.19 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: you can add a zero in front if the result is 1 char long. |
| 19:03.53 | BlackBishop | yeah .. that's what I was thinking |
| 19:04.03 | BlackBishop | tryin' to find a way to check how many chars long is the result :) |
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| 19:04.22 | jelly-home | echo -n foo | wc -c |
| 19:04.48 | BlackBishop | thanks :) |
| 19:05.12 | jelly-home | or even echo $a | grep '^.$' |
| 19:05.29 | jelly-home | if you just check for exactly one character |
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| 19:05.37 | tnks | Hi. I'm devising a plan to test an undervolt setting for my laptop. Someone had the idea to issue random seeks to maybe draw some voltage from the drive (which might affect the voltage the cpu senses). I like the idea, but don't know a tool that would do it. |
| 19:05.39 | tnks | Any ideas? |
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| 19:06.52 | jelly-home | BlackBishop: these are not really Debian specific, maybe ask #bash ? |
| 19:08.04 | BlackBishop | lewl sorry jelly-home anyway .. I got it started now :) |
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| 19:08.07 | BlackBishop | thanks |
| 19:08.07 | BlackBishop | :) |
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| 19:08.27 | jelly-home | tnks: some HD benchmark? |
| 19:08.40 | tnks | jelly-home: yeah... is there a package for that? |
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| 19:09.08 | tnks | (I guess there is... just apt-cache searched) |
| 19:09.54 | tnks | has anybody used stress, dbench, or iozone3... have a recommendation? |
| 19:10.42 | jelly-home | tnks: I haven't tried any of these, but eg. iozone3 has "random read/write" in the description. |
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| 19:11.07 | tnks | cool... just looking through the description of the other two... about to get to iozone. |
| 19:11.24 | tnks | but the stress pacakge looked good too for my purpose. |
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| 19:13.56 | Qball | hi, question. how "stable" is amd64 version of debian? |
| 19:14.19 | streuner | ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 19:14.26 | streuner | most of us use x86 |
| 19:14.57 | Pryon | Qball: What's your criterion for stable? |
| 19:15.22 | Qball | Pryon: no random crashes |
| 19:15.49 | Pryon | Well, I've had none such since Friday. |
| 19:15.56 | streuner | AMD64 is part of debian and official |
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| 19:16.10 | streuner | so i guess stable would be stable |
| 19:16.41 | streuner | but as we said before, just /j #debian-amd64 and /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 19:17.35 | zinx | Qball: there are no random crashes, unless your hardware's bad. |
| 19:18.11 | zinx | Qball: you may not be able to find all the packages you want, however, and packages may fail to install (if you're using unstable/testing, but that's a general unstable/testing thing, not something amd64-specific) |
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| 19:19.19 | Qball | zinx: hardware should be fine.. and I run testing .. |
| 19:19.29 | samba | Nabend, habe ein Problem mit Samba, ich kann mich von NT nicht als nobody einloggen obwohl in der samba config eingetragen |
| 19:19.32 | Qball | zinx: and don't care for flash and some other things that are known to work bad. |
| 19:19.55 | streuner | samba: ask in english in #samba |
| 19:20.18 | samba | ok |
| 19:20.22 | samba | thanks |
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| 19:20.27 | streuner | mp |
| 19:20.38 | streuner | s/mp/np/ |
| 19:20.46 | zinx | Qball: then you should be fine |
| 19:20.58 | zinx | Qball: as long as you know how to fix testing/unstable when the packages break :) |
| 19:21.14 | Qball | zinx: that should be doable. |
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| 19:24.25 | Gumby | if I was wanting to mirror a small repo what would be the easiest way to do so? |
| 19:24.56 | panthera | rsync is always the tool of choice, |
| 19:25.02 | panthera | even if it is a small repository only. |
| 19:25.42 | Gumby | panthera: thank you |
| 19:26.05 | panthera | you're welcome. |
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| 19:31.52 | w00t- | i got one folder i cant remove |
| 19:31.58 | w00t- | rm -rf foldername |
| 19:31.59 | abrotman | why not? |
| 19:32.01 | w00t- | dont work |
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| 19:33.01 | w00t- | im logged as root |
| 19:33.19 | streuner | what does mount say about the device? |
| 19:33.55 | abrotman | w00t-: what is the folder name? |
| 19:34.11 | w00t- | a name |
| 19:34.15 | w00t- | with a space |
| 19:35.09 | abrotman | try rm -rf "Folder<tab>" |
| 19:35.18 | abrotman | or use a \ |
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| 19:35.37 | gteppel_ | Does anybody know of a guide for setting up a OpenVPN (Bridged Mode) server specific to Debian? |
| 19:36.06 | abrotman | google ? |
| 19:36.14 | w00t- | rm -rf a/effacer ? |
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| 19:36.48 | wakejagr | w00t-: rm -rf a\ effacer |
| 19:38.00 | w00t- | bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory |
| 19:38.01 | w00t- | wtf |
| 19:39.01 | wakejagr | w00t-: see if you have mc installed, mc can help remove weirdly named files/dirs |
| 19:41.14 | RichiH | or you use tab completion in zsh which can do extensive quoting |
| 19:41.20 | RichiH | or you use wildcards |
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| 19:42.03 | w00t- | rm -rf \ have fucked me |
| 19:42.09 | loke | hello |
| 19:42.15 | zinx | w00t-: really? |
| 19:42.16 | loke | whats goin on?!?!?!?! |
| 19:42.27 | zinx | w00t-: it didn't just keep asking for more input? |
| 19:42.49 | w00t- | all is erased |
| 19:42.58 | zinx | w00t-: with "rm -rf \"? i think you lie |
| 19:43.22 | wakejagr | w00t-: how would a \ do that? sure it was not / ? |
| 19:43.39 | loke | !beer everybody |
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| 19:44.00 | mahyar | how do i record currently playing audio in my speakers? |
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| 19:44.45 | Vasistha | mahyar: mplayer can do stuff like that |
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| 19:45.33 | abrotman | !info vsound sarge |
| 19:45.40 | dpkg | vsound: (Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
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| 19:46.49 | mahyar | thanks |
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| 19:47.51 | Vasistha | abrotman: ooh, that's nice! |
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| 19:48.49 | Vasistha | abrotman: I'm curious, is there a similar tool for streaming video? I'm skeptical, because for the sound case, all you need to do is read everything that's going through the sound device. In the video case, you'd want an isolated window, or to try to run full-screen or something... |
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| 19:49.09 | StFS | zinx: hi again... I was the one with the amd64 netinst questions earlier... do you think the daily builds of the netinst images will work then? (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso) |
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| 19:49.54 | abrotman | Vasistha: nfc |
| 19:50.17 | devicenull | I'm going to be installing the amd64 version shortly, so I can dual boot. What do you recommend as the smallest amount of spache i can install it in |
| 19:50.18 | zinx | StFS: as i say |
| 19:50.22 | zinx | StFS: read the Known Issues |
| 19:50.39 | zinx | StFS: if there's nothing in the Known Issues that affects you, then it will probably work, but I can't guarantee it.. |
| 19:50.50 | Vasistha | nfc, that's a new acronym for me... thank $DEITY for acronymfinder.com ... |
| 19:51.29 | RichiH | !nfc |
| 19:51.29 | dpkg | hmm... nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 19:51.37 | RichiH | ;) |
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| 19:52.39 | devicenull | does anyone know when the amd64 port is going to become offical? |
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| 19:52.56 | StFS | zinx: aight... done that and there only seems to be one current issue that wouldn't affect me... the mirror issue with amd64 is in the "past issues" list so I'll go ahead and give it a whirl |
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| 19:57.49 | devicenull | lists.debian.org down? |
| 19:58.41 | streuner | no |
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| 19:58.53 | streuner | ping is ok, but it doesn't respond |
| 19:58.56 | devicenull | wasnt loading |
| 19:58.59 | devicenull | it is now though |
| 19:59.10 | zinx | StFS: Yeah, the mirror issue applies to "Beta 2", not the snapshot |
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| 20:08.20 | StFS | zinx: fyi, it works :) it installed the "amd64 generic" kernel but I'm in the process of installing the k8 version right now... but the system is up and running... now I'll just have to wait and see if running a 64 bit architecture comes and bites me in the ass |
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| 20:09.54 | wils0n__ | How can I tell what version of NFS I am running? (debian-sarge) |
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| 20:10.29 | jelly-home | wils0n__: nfs client or nfs server? |
| 20:10.33 | wils0n__ | server |
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| 20:11.30 | kristalino | which software could i use to translate a word to one language to one another ? |
| 20:11.33 | jelly-home | wils0n__: rpcinfo -p localhost will show program run via portmap. You'll also see some entries with "nfs", I have versions 2, 3 and 4 apparently running. |
| 20:12.11 | wils0n__ | mine only says "nfs" .. does that mean nfs2? |
| 20:12.29 | jelly-home | wils0n__: what's in the "vers" column? |
| 20:12.36 | wils0n__ | aah hah |
| 20:12.41 | wils0n__ | or rather.. durr.. :) |
| 20:13.04 | jelly-home | wils0n__: nfs v3 is the safe bet for linux. |
| 20:13.19 | jelly-home | wils0n__: ... I think. |
| 20:13.22 | wils0n__ | okay great. Is NFSv4 highly unstable? |
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| 20:13.33 | wils0n__ | The kernel config seems to indicate taht NFSv3 is best |
| 20:13.43 | wils0n__ | "EXPERIMENAL" filesystems kinda scare me |
| 20:13.44 | jelly-home | wils0n__: Don't know, never tried it. |
| 20:13.46 | wils0n__ | even if theyare just nfs |
| 20:13.49 | wils0n__ | okay |
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| 20:14.41 | jelly-home | wils0n__: v3 interoperates well with Solaris (and obviously with other Linuxes). |
| 20:15.03 | wils0n__ | okay then NFS is a good bet |
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| 20:15.34 | wils0n__ | any idea about portmap/locking and the -o nolock option: what does -o nolock turn off exactly? My mount freezes if I dont use it |
| 20:15.48 | |ryan| | is there any way to put the debian network based installer on a hard drive? |
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| 20:16.11 | jelly-home | wils0n__: hm. you might have to add the option to mount too? |
| 20:16.13 | wils0n__ | |ryan| cant you just copy it ? |
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| 20:16.23 | |ryan| | I need to put the installer on a compact flash card. |
| 20:16.29 | |ryan| | and run it from there. |
| 20:16.31 | wils0n__ | jelly-home: mount 192.168.x.x:/home /home -o nolock seems to work |
| 20:16.56 | wils0n__ | |ryan| just copy the filesystem over, your a bit on your own as to setting up the bootloader/kernel on a CF card though |
| 20:17.03 | wils0n__ | though it should be possible3 |
| 20:17.05 | jelly-home | wils0n__: there's a line in man nfs but it isn't very verbose. |
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| 20:20.15 | |ryan| | wils0n__: I'll give it a shot. |
| 20:20.46 | wils0n__ | |ryan| : dont forget to use the correct options to cp |
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| 20:21.03 | wils0n__ | |ryan|: so it doesnt deep-copy /dev entries.. i think it's "cp -a" -- though im not certain |
| 20:21.19 | |ryan| | yup, -a |
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| 20:22.10 | |ryan| | wils0n__: i think the hard part will be making a bootloader work for this |
| 20:22.24 | |ryan| | grub will probably work fine tho |
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| 20:30.09 | |ryan| | hmm |
| 20:30.16 | |ryan| | extlinux should make this work nicely |
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| 20:37.41 | SJr|nx | What is a good task scheduler / organizer for *nix, preferrably PHP Based, I need it to support Task Dependancies, and maybe even priorities. |
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| 20:39.08 | w00t- | rm -rf / as root fuck my system |
| 20:39.29 | p0t | w00t-, be nice |
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| 20:42.17 | w00t- | ? |
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| 20:47.03 | shining | lunitik: ho I see |
| 20:47.27 | shining | lunitik: all cd writers aren't handled the same by the kernel |
| 20:47.50 | shining | lunitik: thus it could explain the opposite behavior we have |
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| 20:48.03 | element | anyone here have experience with dual monitor setup? |
| 20:49.02 | shining | well, some ppl have, it's easier to use google for finding them |
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| 20:50.26 | goodshit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:52.35 | marculix | goodshit: cat backup.db | mysql <dbname> -u<user> -p<pwd> |
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| 20:57.09 | Suprano | i created an ext2 partition.. in Windows i downloaded an ext2 driver, but there it says that 4 GB of this (empty) partition are already used.. |
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| 21:01.08 | klikklak | element: I had a telly/screen setup for awhile, before my telly blew up |
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| 21:05.14 | element | klikklak, I'm trying to get dual-LCDs setup.. |
| 21:05.53 | klikklak | element: with nvidia drivers it's pretty easy |
| 21:06.13 | element | klikklak, yes, with nvidia...but how? |
| 21:06.36 | klikklak | element: read the readme it's pretty comprehensive... |
| 21:06.46 | element | klikklak, where's that at? |
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| 21:08.07 | klikklak | element: get it on the net, there used to be nvidia-glx which had it (stable might still have it, but not testing) |
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| 21:09.07 | ajs_ | Hi, I don't suppose anybody knows who the make-kpkg maintainer is? |
| 21:09.19 | klikklak | element: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/ |
| 21:09.40 | streuner | ajs_: apt-cache show <package> would tell you |
| 21:09.48 | ajs_ | I'm not on a debian system. |
| 21:09.54 | streuner | use pdo then |
| 21:09.56 | ajs_ | I'm trying to CC him about 2.6.18-rc2 breakage. |
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| 21:10.22 | xored | sombody can help me with ISPconfig ? |
| 21:10.45 | streuner | ajs_: so you just can't use reportbug? |
| 21:11.13 | ajs_ | It's a thread on LKML, I'd rather CC the maintainer.. |
| 21:11.48 | streuner | ajs_: look at BTS first |
| 21:13.47 | bws42 | ajs_ do you mean kernel-package ? |
| 21:13.57 | streuner | if there is a new rc and a bug in kernel-package, there is just in time something in BTS then |
| 21:13.59 | streuner | sure |
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| 21:14.30 | bws42 | Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> |
| 21:14.36 | ajs_ | thanks. |
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| 21:14.46 | bws42 | np |
| 21:14.55 | element` | klikklak, ok, nvidia-glx is installed...now what? |
| 21:15.00 | xored | how to check which server is providing the pop3 accounts ( as server for connection clients, not the MTA ) |
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| 21:15.46 | nf1 | Hi, if You were to choose between exim, postfix and courier, wich one would you choose? |
| 21:15.46 | tenango | ooogh |
| 21:15.47 | tenango | exim? |
| 21:15.57 | streuner | bws42: are you care what other people doing? |
| 21:16.00 | tenango | cyrus? courier,,, ack |
| 21:16.14 | tenango | no it probably helps him riff off something |
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| 21:16.48 | bws42 | streuner what? |
| 21:17.02 | abrotman | nf1:do you have any other requirements? |
| 21:17.23 | tenango | what abrotman asked |
| 21:17.26 | abrotman | xored: telnet server 110 |
| 21:17.30 | element` | klikklak, ping? |
| 21:17.32 | nf1 | I want to build LAMP + mail server |
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| 21:17.57 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. but nothing else? |
| 21:18.12 | nf1 | nothing more for now |
| 21:18.21 | abrotman | exim and postfix are both pretty easy |
| 21:18.22 | tenango | isn't there some thing out there that'll plop the whole thing on for you? what does bugzilla end up installing? |
| 21:18.51 | tenango | courier i think you could use it for one thing and exim for another |
| 21:19.20 | nf1 | tenango, isn't they both MTA's? |
| 21:19.35 | tenango | you might wanna install a webmail prog & some light ldap too |
| 21:19.54 | tenango | yea, but one might do pop good and the other do imap good |
| 21:19.56 | nf1 | that'll be the next step |
| 21:20.02 | tenango | ah okie |
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| 21:20.12 | sambaprobleme | samba3 has lots of bugs!! fu updates |
| 21:20.15 | xored | abauer: than ? i can connect, getting a "hello" |
| 21:20.33 | tenango | o no... |
| 21:20.57 | sciboy | Hey guys, i got a daemon i want to keep running even after i close the terminal |
| 21:21.05 | sciboy | How do i do it? =| |
| 21:21.12 | devicenull | screem |
| 21:21.16 | devicenull | *screen |
| 21:21.16 | abrotman | nohup |
| 21:21.18 | nf1 | so for IMAP it's exim or postifx and for POP3 is the other one of those 2? |
| 21:21.19 | tenango | yea there's that :) |
| 21:21.30 | abrotman | courier can do smtp also |
| 21:21.41 | abrotman | exim,postfix, courier can all do smtp |
| 21:21.42 | tenango | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.55 | sciboy | ? |
| 21:22.06 | tenango | hey you could always get into qmail, i'm sorta diggy for maildirs |
| 21:22.13 | devicenull | screen lets you resume it afterwards? |
| 21:22.33 | tenango | as long as you don't outright kill your screens |
| 21:22.55 | tenango | they sit up there waiting for you to come back, it's the best way to fly |
| 21:23.06 | tenango | you can work on things for months at a time |
| 21:23.12 | nf1 | From what I read in web, the qmail is out of play for me :) |
| 21:23.29 | tenango | it's a lil crazy :) |
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| 21:24.04 | devicenull | is gparted my best bet for resizing a ntfs partition? |
| 21:24.05 | tenango | damn guadec looks fun |
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| 21:26.41 | abrotman | !moo |
| 21:26.41 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 21:28.00 | abrotman | supposedly it goes along with some other rhyme |
| 21:28.08 | xored | abrotman: he is saying, my maildir is not where it should be |
| 21:28.17 | abrotman | xored: who is? |
| 21:28.30 | xored | abrotman: thunderbird, my client |
| 21:28.35 | xored | he fails to login |
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| 21:28.52 | abrotman | xored: depends on the IMAP server and how it's configured |
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| 21:28.58 | xored | is postfix and exim an MTA ? |
| 21:29.03 | xored | or what exactly is exim ? |
| 21:29.12 | xored | abrotman: should be an pop3, not imap |
| 21:29.53 | jduggan | they're both mta's |
| 21:29.56 | abrotman | telnet server 110 .. what does it say ? |
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| 21:31.48 | sng | abrotman: I'm not as cute as Natalie Portman. |
| 21:31.57 | sng | Just thought you should know. |
| 21:32.08 | abrotman | sng: i'll file that under "No fucking duh" |
| 21:32.13 | sng | Yay! |
| 21:32.30 | tenango | !rimming |
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| 21:33.03 | abrotman | !cookie scarynetworkguy |
| 21:33.08 | dpkg | Hey abrotman, sarge pool 4 is Keep 'em coming! blk=2005-01-23 <alejandro_>=2005-02-15 #perl-magic-8-ball-bot=2005-01-01 Zone=2004-11-29 karsten=2003-12-01 abrotman=2004-10-02 Guerin=2005-03-13 Kerpal=2005-01-01 FieldySnuts=2009-12-31 scarynetworkguy=2005-01-03 directhex=2004-12-25 <cantona>=2004-08-19 <cantona>=2004-8-19 andika=2005-01-31 Cit=2004-05-20 g0llum=2004-07-26 dan2=2004-06-24 bztunk=2004-09-11 obake=2004-04-31 guestish=2004-05-30 <galois>=2004-07- |
| 21:33.13 | abrotman | that sucked! |
| 21:33.24 | tenango | sucked cookie? |
| 21:33.26 | sng | Yes it did. |
| 21:33.32 | abrotman | !cookie scarynetworkguy |
| 21:33.34 | dpkg | Hey abrotman, etch pool 1 is caphuso=WIR/SIYH/RSN! bloom=once_in_a_blue_moon_like_last_time HelmutG=2007-12-01 Eulex=2007-05-17 Arsion=2006-04-15 scarynetworkguy=2006-01-03 streuner=2006-06-06 mdh=2006-09-11 antgel=2006-12-05 asg=2006-12-07 resiak=2007-04-21 greycat=2007-07-07 abrotman, chealer=2007-10-02 r3v=2008-07-23 simonrvn=when_the_cows_come_home |
| 21:33.53 | daxxar | wtf is !cookie? :p |
| 21:34.10 | tenango | it's !fun |
| 21:34.41 | abrotman | daxxar: if you just do !cookie .. it'll pull anything .. if you give it a parameter .. it'll use that as a filter |
| 21:34.44 | abrotman | !cookie abrotman |
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| 21:36.03 | xored | abrotman: one second, emerging telnet on my client |
| 21:36.17 | abrotman | debina doesn't have emerge |
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| 21:38.09 | Kayanduus | hey |
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| 21:38.44 | Kayanduus | hey |
| 21:39.08 | xored | abrotman: +OK Hello there. |
| 21:39.15 | tenango | woa your bot refers to thai-whores? |
| 21:39.22 | tenango | jeez louise |
| 21:39.57 | abrotman | xored: no version or server info ? |
| 21:40.04 | xored | abrotman: how to find out, which service ist used as server for incoming client connection for pop3 |
| 21:40.09 | xored | abrotman: nothing more |
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| 21:40.22 | abrotman | xored: is it public ? |
| 21:40.34 | xored | abrotman: what do you mean with public ? |
| 21:40.40 | abrotman | public IP ? |
| 21:40.44 | xored | abrotman: the port, yes |
| 21:40.48 | xored | can i pm you ? |
| 21:40.53 | xored | to give it to you |
| 21:40.59 | abrotman | yep |
| 21:41.20 | xored | done |
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| 21:42.45 | abrotman | xored: ok .. on the server .. fuser -n tcp 110 |
| 21:43.01 | xored | 110/tcp: 30737 |
| 21:43.10 | abrotman | ps aux | grep 30737 |
| 21:43.32 | xored | usr/sbin/couriertcpd |
| 21:43.37 | xored | ok |
| 21:43.44 | abrotman | there oyu go |
| 21:43.46 | xored | so it courier, so i should deinstall exim i guess |
| 21:44.00 | xored | i just switched form confixx to ISPconfig |
| 21:44.18 | abrotman | why? |
| 21:44.21 | xored | ah exim is not installed anymore |
| 21:44.41 | xored | abrotman: cause of license reasons ( i had only a license for confixx 1.4) |
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| 21:44.59 | element | klikklak, ping |
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| 21:48.02 | xored | abrotman: Jul 16 23:47:42 kilo075 courierpop3login: authdaemon: starting client module |
| 21:48.02 | xored | Jul 16 23:47:43 kilo075 courierpop3login: authdaemon: ACCEPT, username web1_p1 |
| 21:48.10 | abrotman | ok |
| 21:48.16 | xored | abrotman: thats in the logs, but i cannot login |
| 21:48.24 | xored | there is nothing more, he is stoping here somehow |
| 21:48.26 | abrotman | courier is probably looking in a maildir .. your SMTP server might not deliver it to one |
| 21:48.48 | xored | abrotman: ok postfix is handling that and it should be configured by ISPconfig |
| 21:48.51 | xored | one second |
| 21:50.12 | xored | abrotman: hmm ok, ISPconfig was not configured to use maildir, i guess courrier was expecting this. |
| 21:50.18 | abrotman | probably |
| 21:51.03 | xored | tarting Courier POP3 server:bind: Address already in use |
| 21:51.04 | xored | ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable |
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| 21:51.29 | xored | abrotman: thats strange, i just wanted to restart courier pop |
| 21:52.18 | xored | abrotman: same happens when i restart imap |
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| 21:52.24 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 21:52.27 | devicenull | how stable is debians ntfs dirver? |
| 21:52.31 | devicenull | *driver? |
| 21:52.33 | abrotman | you have to tell courier to deliver to maildir |
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| 21:53.00 | p0t | whats the deal with #bearcave |
| 21:53.14 | xored | abrotman: courier-pop or -imap are failing to start, both pop-ssl imap-sll are working |
| 21:53.23 | abrotman | why? |
| 21:53.29 | abrotman | dude .. what is runnign where? |
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| 21:55.45 | xored | abrotman: sorry, maybe iam confusing you. As ISPconfig was not configrued to deliver to maildir i changed that ( what worked, i got a Maildir in my users home) then i just want to restart courier-pop courier-imap courier-pop-ssl and imap-ssl, but it failed on pop and imap with |
| 21:56.01 | abrotman | why? |
| 21:56.01 | xored | Starting Courier POP3 server:bind: Address already in use |
| 21:56.01 | xored | ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 21:56.17 | xored | abrotman: just to see, if courier is working right / ip |
| 21:56.18 | xored | uo |
| 21:56.36 | abrotman | something else is using 110 |
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| 21:57.12 | xored | abrotman: ok, then same steps as before i guess |
| 21:57.45 | xored | couriertls -localfd |
| 21:58.00 | xored | /usr/sbin/couriertcpd |
| 21:58.27 | xored | both process using 110, when using the fuser -n tcp 110 command |
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| 22:02.09 | xored | abrotman: i killed all courier procs and now i could start pop / imap |
| 22:02.15 | abrotman | ok |
| 22:02.29 | xored | abrotman: but now my login fails with. |
| 22:02.55 | xored | courierpop3login: LOGIN FAILED, |
| 22:03.16 | abrotman | check your passwords |
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| 22:04.44 | element | klikklak, ping |
| 22:04.54 | xored | abrotman: its ok, cannot find anything further in the logs. How to switch courier in verbose mode ? |
| 22:05.04 | abrotman | dunno .. ask #courier |
| 22:05.12 | abrotman | or check the config file |
| 22:06.44 | xored | abrotman: its verbose already :/ |
| 22:07.08 | wils0n__ | anybody know if an ARM processor is little- or big- endian? |
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| 22:08.34 | amphi | wils0n__: could be middle-endian... ;) |
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| 22:08.42 | wils0n__ | amphi: doh :) |
| 22:08.50 | abrotman | !arm |
| 22:08.50 | dpkg | somebody said arm was Advanced RiSC Machine, a processor architecture, or http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/, or best supported in #debian-arm |
| 22:09.00 | wils0n__ | ooh sweet |
| 22:09.02 | abrotman | http://www.us.debian.org/ports/arm/ |
| 22:09.05 | abrotman | whoops |
| 22:09.08 | amphi | wils0n__: there were middle-endian cpus once, I believe |
| 22:09.20 | abrotman | !arm s#arm/,#arm/# |
| 22:09.25 | abrotman | !arm =~ s#arm/,#arm/# |
| 22:09.25 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 22:09.36 | wils0n__ | Somebody musta been psycho to do that to themself :) |
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| 22:09.56 | abrotman | do what? |
| 22:10.07 | wils0n__ | design a middle-endian processor |
| 22:10.17 | abrotman | uh .. |
| 22:10.27 | amphi | wils0n__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_endian |
| 22:11.56 | wils0n__ | doh.. "The format for double-precision floating-point numbers on the VAX and ARM are middle-endian." |
| 22:12.01 | amphi | wils0n__: the same sort of mind that gave us the 'interleave' binary operator ;) |
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| 22:12.08 | amphi | wils0n__: teehee |
| 22:12.11 | wils0n__ | heh eeeexxacctly |
| 22:12.19 | itchi_ | Hello everyone |
| 22:12.28 | xored | abrotman: could you help me a bit with postfix ? its dropping every mail |
| 22:12.36 | dabreegster | Hi itchi_ |
| 22:12.38 | amphi | wils0n__: sorry, I thought I was just making a joke |
| 22:12.57 | xored | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3154 |
| 22:13.28 | wils0n__ | hehe, apperantly you were on target :) |
| 22:13.32 | abrotman | xored: looks like a TLS issue .. which i know nothing about |
| 22:13.48 | xored | "ok" |
| 22:13.53 | xored | thank you anyway |
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| 22:14.46 | itchi_ | I have some troubles with an new HDD, my secondery drive. Old have die +- an month ago, so i have replace these with an new one. But it's looks that now i get again the same trouble with that new HDD. When i try to copy a big file of it to the primary HDD, the HDD led on the cover still leave on and then i hear an tak and my system freeze :-( |
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| 22:15.55 | itchi_ | These 2 HDD are on the same IDE channel, i not know if this is important?? I know about a bit loose of performance |
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| 22:16.51 | efaistos | hi |
| 22:17.07 | efaistos | what should i have in lspci output for a linksys wlan card ? |
| 22:19.36 | itchi_ | That is what i get in the message log http://pastebin.ca/89720 |
| 22:19.58 | itchi_ | Someone an idea what it can be are ? |
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| 22:30.54 | js_ | do i need to do something with sshd_config to make passwordless authentication to work on a sarge system? i followed http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152 (among many), but i still can't log on to a sarge system without supplying a pass.. it works fine to a slack system, but i can't find the difference |
| 22:31.23 | stoned | good evening |
| 22:32.16 | dabreegster | Hi stoned |
| 22:32.29 | js_ | elp me out here, somebody must have experienced this |
| 22:32.33 | stoned | kinda quiet in here huh |
| 22:32.37 | js_ | the permissions are all ok |
| 22:32.41 | stoned | js_, if/when someone knows, they will help you |
| 22:33.01 | js_ | (or simply idle) |
| 22:33.05 | dabreegster | stoned: No distractions from coding! |
| 22:33.14 | p0t | does debian keep opengl drivers in its repo? |
| 22:33.19 | stoned | I've been cleaning my house all day |
| 22:33.36 | dabreegster | p0t: Yes. libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 22:34.17 | dabreegster | p0t: Assuming you're talking about 3D direct acceleration drivers. |
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| 22:35.12 | Seb | sup y'all |
| 22:35.44 | Seb | what'd be the diff between linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-686 and linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vserver-686 ? |
| 22:38.12 | crazy_penguin | i wish a good night to all! sleep well! :) |
| 22:38.31 | abrotman | Seb: read the descriptions? |
| 22:39.19 | Seb | abrotman: of course i did that first, to no avail |
| 22:39.36 | abrotman | useless descriptions! |
| 22:39.41 | abrotman | i'm moving to ubuntu! |
| 22:39.44 | Seb | ;) |
| 22:40.32 | abrotman | ow? |
| 22:41.01 | |ryan| | anyone know much about extlinux/syslinux? |
| 22:41.14 | |ryan| | I am trying to install extlinux to a flash card to boot the debian installer |
| 22:41.43 | stoned | what? |
| 22:41.57 | stoned | abrotman, WHAT!!! |
| 22:42.04 | stoned | fuck ubuntu |
| 22:42.40 | kay_ | fuck stoned |
| 22:42.48 | stoned | is the a promise? |
| 22:42.51 | stoned | that* |
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| 22:42.57 | Shadowcat | damned sickos |
| 22:43.01 | stoned | hehe |
| 22:43.03 | kay_ | if you are a girl lol |
| 22:43.19 | stoned | I am a hot stoner chic |
| 22:43.29 | abrotman | eh .. wrong channel |
| 22:43.41 | kay_ | hey |
| 22:43.50 | kay_ | i found a bug somewhere |
| 22:43.56 | kay_ | but i dunno whose fault it is |
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| 22:43.58 | kay_ | which package |
| 22:44.05 | stoned | argh! |
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| 22:44.12 | stoned | !tell kay_ -about enter |
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| 22:44.40 | Thanatermesis | any person has problems with their audio card not detected in ETCH ? |
| 22:44.41 | kay_ | !tell stoned -about space |
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| 22:45.08 | jones- | sorry for the OT: does anybody know an alternative to Skype? |
| 22:45.13 | kay_ | ok let me do it the right way: |
| 22:45.22 | stoned | jones-, not that I know of.. google about |
| 22:45.35 | stoned | jones-, what is wrong with skype? |
| 22:45.38 | jones- | stoned: i'm googling. I need something that works on linux/ppc. |
| 22:45.45 | stoned | hmm |
| 22:45.54 | stoned | jones-, try asking in #debianppc |
| 22:45.59 | robin_sz | jones-, yes, theres a thing called "the telephone" thats a bit like skype calls, and onther thing called "irc" thats liek skype chat |
| 22:46.03 | jones- | yeah, but it's quite dead at this time |
| 22:46.11 | stoned | jones-, be patient mate |
| 22:46.12 | jones- | robin_sz: WOW! |
| 22:46.28 | jones- | stoned: yeah, i know, i will :) |
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| 22:47.14 | robin_sz | if you want phoen calls from a ppc, just build or install one of the many SIP clients and use any random SIP termination provider |
| 22:47.29 | kay_ | i have a rt2500 wlan card, i have the drivers from rt2x500.serialmonkey.org . i dont use a WEP key. so i do iwconfig ra0 key off. (or let /etc/network/interfaces do that for me). but when i put the interface UP, (ifconfig ra0 up), they key is being set the the hexadecimal value of 'off' in ASCII, and i cant connect!!! i need to retype iwconfig ra0 key off, but that isnt possible in /etc/network/interfaces :( :( |
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| 22:47.35 | qip|Virusmaster | can someone here help me with a little bash scripting problem? I am trying to do something like this: VAR="test\\ string" ; echo "teststring" | sed s/teststring/$VAR/g (I want to replace teststring with another string with a white space in it) |
| 22:47.39 | kay_ | i have a rt2500 wlan card, i have the drivers from rt2x500.serialmonkey.org . i dont use a WEP key. so i do iwconfig ra0 key off. (or let /etc/network/interfaces do that for me). but when i put the interface UP, (ifconfig ra0 up), they key is being set the the hexadecimal value of 'off' in ASCII, and i cant connect!!! i need to retype iwconfig ra0 key off, but that isnt possible in /etc/network/interfaces :( :( |
| 22:47.43 | abrotman | jones-: gizmodo |
| 22:47.45 | abrotman | !gizmodo |
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| 22:47.49 | abrotman | erm .. gizmo? |
| 22:47.51 | abrotman | !gizmo |
| 22:47.51 | dpkg | i guess gizmo is http://www.gizmoproject.com/ .. A VoIP project |
| 22:47.53 | abrotman | yay |
| 22:48.00 | jones- | cool, thanks! |
| 22:48.28 | robin_sz | kay_, the values 0x0ff and "off" are entirely different |
| 22:48.41 | kay_ | robin_sz, no thats not what i mean |
| 22:48.42 | Seb | kay_: "enc off" not "key off" |
| 22:49.06 | kay_ | seb, key off works, it will set encryption off |
| 22:49.18 | Seb | oh they're actually equivalent, hmm |
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| 22:49.41 | Seb | kay_: well it's a bug in your drivers, file it and wait for the next release |
| 22:50.07 | kay_ | i never had this problem before, i think its because of rt2x500 drivers |
| 22:50.24 | robin_sz | sounds like it |
| 22:50.35 | kay_ | that the rt2x00 see 'off' as in 'no encryption' as the ASCII key |
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| 22:51.02 | kay_ | root@dooie:~# iwconfig ra0 key off --> Encryption key:off |
| 22:51.08 | robin_sz | try setting no key maybe, or set the key to a null string |
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| 22:51.50 | gimbal | anyone might know what happened to xli and xkill, in sid? I've just recently upgraded my x pkgs after about a year, and there's no xli or xkill installed now; ran a search at packages.debian.org and no package in sid/ia386 shows any xli or xkill command in it; I'd thought those were some pretty common x utilities |
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| 22:52.14 | kbrooks | How do I find out the repository of a package? |
| 22:52.42 | gimbal | eh, scratch xkill; it's not in root's path, but it is installed |
| 22:53.01 | kbrooks | Filename: pool/.../name_of-deb_ian_package.deb is not enough |
| 22:53.02 | gimbal | guessing xli is in an orphaned pkg |
| 22:53.33 | kbrooks | ... as in details that are unnecessary |
| 22:53.55 | kbrooks | that is from apt-cache show pkg |
| 22:54.39 | gimbal | kbrooks: afaik, there's a listing of what's in each repository, somewhere under /var/ .. checking |
| 22:54.55 | gimbal | each repository that apt is configured for, I think |
| 22:55.33 | gimbal | kbrooks: yeah, try grepping /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages it might serve to help to find out |
| 22:55.53 | gimbal | if a pkg is in more than one repo, I'm not sure how apt would do its algorithm for which repo would be used |
| 22:55.56 | kbrooks | I don't want to |
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| 22:56.14 | gimbal | apt-cache show <pkg> # might alsow ork |
| 22:56.17 | kbrooks | er |
| 22:56.21 | kbrooks | i USE THAT |
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| 22:56.39 | gimbal | O K |
| 22:56.40 | dvs | gimbal: apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 22:57.44 | kay_ | hmm, it seems the rt2x00 drivers just dont seem to like to go without wepkey, i have set-up a wepkey now (iwconfig ra0 key s:thekeyphrase), and put it off afterwards (iwconfig ra0 key off), but everytime i do ifconfig ra0 down and then ifconfig ra0 up, it remembers the old key again :S |
| 22:57.45 | gimbal | dvs: cool; thanks |
| 22:57.56 | dvs | gimbal: you're welcome |
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| 22:58.03 | kbrooks | dvs: I need the full URL |
| 22:58.21 | dvs | kbrooks: huh? I don't know what you're talking about |
| 22:58.36 | kbrooks | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.58 | kbrooks | that's not the repo root |
| 22:59.15 | RvGaTe | stoned, ? |
| 22:59.28 | kbrooks | this is not enough information either: Filename: pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-1plf4_i386.deb |
| 22:59.36 | dvs | kbrooks: it has to be comfigured somewhere. |
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| 23:00.04 | robin_sz | kay_, I suggest that since the driver is buggy, you file a bug in the debian bugtracker for that driver |
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| 23:00.21 | kbrooks | dvs: what has to be configured somewhere? |
| 23:00.24 | devicenull | 20gb enough to install debian + X? |
| 23:00.31 | robin_sz | devicenull, yes |
| 23:00.33 | kbrooks | devicenull: yes |
| 23:00.42 | devicenull | k, thx |
| 23:00.43 | dvs | kbrooks: http://packages.freecontrib.org |
| 23:00.43 | robin_sz | by about a factor of 10 |
| 23:00.55 | devicenull | thats okay, I need other stuff as well |
| 23:01.15 | robin_sz | expect 2 to 2.5gb tops |
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| 23:01.29 | kbrooks | dvs: that isnt an answer to my question - please clarify |
| 23:01.40 | Diazepam | vim |
| 23:01.44 | Diazepam | oppps |
| 23:01.48 | devicenull | used to XP, where it barely fits in a 9gb partition |
| 23:01.56 | robin_sz | kay_, wait aminute .. thats not even a debian supplied driver is it? |
| 23:02.29 | dvs | kbrooks: you said that packages.freecontrib.org is not the repo root but it had to be configured to be the root at some point |
| 23:02.51 | kbrooks | packages.freecontrib.org/plf is the repo root |
| 23:02.56 | infernix | aargh. aptitude freaks me out. installed libgnutls-dev and it removes all xorg packages in testing |
| 23:03.03 | kbrooks | dvs: now do you understand? |
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| 23:04.04 | kbrooks | dvs: can any command ever provide me with the full path to a package in the repos? |
| 23:04.12 | dvs | kbrooks: that's just the way apt-cache policy prints things |
| 23:04.19 | abrotman | infernix: this is bad? |
| 23:05.06 | dvs | kbrooks: I don't know how to get the full path in the repo. sorry. |
| 23:05.15 | kbrooks | dvs: fine then |
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| 23:05.34 | kay_ | robin_sz i dunno, i use ubuntu, but i think its in debian too, the driver itself is from rt2x00.serialmonkey.org, but i came to this channel cuz i previously tought it was a problem with /etc/network/interfaces not executing iwconfig ra0 key off if i put wireless-key off in that file |
| 23:05.44 | Thanatermesis | any person has problems with their audio card not detected in etch ? |
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| 23:05.52 | simonrvn | good morning abrotman |
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| 23:06.11 | gimbal | isn't there a --print-urls arg or something like it, to one of the dpkg/apt commands? |
| 23:06.12 | abrotman | eh .. ok :) |
| 23:06.17 | abrotman | simonrvn: fix my mac! |
| 23:06.33 | kay_ | [01:05] <kay_> robin_sz i dunno, i use ubuntu, but i think its in debian too, the driver itself is from rt2x00.serialmonkey.org, but i came to this channel cuz i previously tought it was a problem with /etc/network/interfaces not executing iwconfig ra0 key off if i put wireless-key off in that file |
| 23:06.33 | kay_ | [01:05] <kay_> but the problem is that the driver or the iwconfig/ifconfig program sets the old key back automatically after ifconfig ra0 up |
| 23:06.44 | LoneShadow | Anyone know a easier way to build a read only rootfs ? This is for a diskless device using read only nfs rootfs |
| 23:06.46 | dvs | abrotman: still not displaying on the TV? |
| 23:06.51 | LoneShadow | I am having issues with making /dev and /var as tmpfs |
| 23:07.04 | abrotman | dvs: i stopped messing iwth it around lunch time |
| 23:07.14 | kbrooks | kay_: |
| 23:07.14 | abrotman | dvs: apparently i need a custom mode line and all kinds of happy crap |
| 23:07.17 | kbrooks | !based on |
| 23:07.26 | kbrooks | !based on debian |
| 23:07.29 | abrotman | broken |
| 23:07.34 | kbrooks | !based |
| 23:07.40 | kbrooks | abrotman: why? |
| 23:07.45 | kbrooks | where is dpkg? |
| 23:07.49 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 23:07.49 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 23:07.52 | simonrvn | abrotman: sorry, i thought it was 7:00 *am* |
| 23:07.53 | abrotman | someone killed it i guess |
| 23:08.07 | simonrvn | *phew* |
| 23:08.09 | abrotman | someone removed it |
| 23:08.10 | kbrooks | !ubuntu |
| 23:08.13 | abrotman | simonrvn: no more beer for you! |
| 23:08.20 | kbrooks | okay |
| 23:08.21 | simonrvn | i don't drink ;) |
| 23:08.43 | abrotman | i still need my mac fixed :) |
| 23:08.44 | kbrooks | kay_: please go to #ubuntu. as stated in the topic, THIS IS NOT #ubuntu |
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| 23:09.07 | simonrvn | what was the problem again? |
| 23:09.27 | LoneShadow | anyone know which channel people might have some experience with readonly rootfs ? |
| 23:09.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: what's up with dpkg not answering to 'based on debian' ? |
| 23:09.35 | kay_ | kbrooks, as i said, i tought it has to do with /etc/network/interfaces, which really is just as much debian as ubuntu :P |
| 23:09.43 | simonrvn | @based on debian |
| 23:09.43 | abrotman | simonrvn: i need a xorg config that works with my tv :) |
| 23:09.51 | kay_ | or maybe even more |
| 23:09.55 | simonrvn | oh |
| 23:09.58 | kbrooks | kay_: it doesnt matter |
| 23:10.03 | abrotman | simonrvn: nothing complicated :) |
| 23:10.15 | simonrvn | not the same distro dude. sorry |
| 23:10.24 | simonrvn | abrotman: nah |
| 23:10.36 | kbrooks | simonrvn: who are you talking to |
| 23:10.37 | kay_ | sorry what? |
| 23:10.39 | abrotman | simonrvn: i spent a while this AM working on it .. tv hates framebuffer ... |
| 23:11.18 | simonrvn | *nods* |
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| 23:20.24 | itchi_ | dpkg: hello |
| 23:20.24 | dpkg | que tal, itchi_ |
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| 23:29.22 | lawnchair | im tryihng to reinstall an application via apt-get but it says 'reinstall of <pkg> is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." any way to fix that ? |
| 23:29.27 | devicenull | does netinst need the partitions created beforehand? |
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| 23:29.57 | dvs | devicenull: before you start the install? no |
| 23:30.04 | devicenull | okay, thx |
| 23:30.50 | kingsley | lawnchair: Have you checked if the package is available, and if so, from where? |
| 23:31.40 | lawnchair | kingsley, yah... its just cron |
| 23:31.45 | lawnchair | and ive done an apt-get update |
| 23:32.34 | kingsley | lawnchair: What does "apt-cache policy cron" report? |
| 23:32.48 | farous | lawnchair: check packages.debian.org to see in which repos it reside |
| 23:33.11 | lawnchair | bah screw it |
| 23:33.15 | lawnchair | i guess ill just d/l the .deb manually |
| 23:33.37 | lawnchair | just weird... ive never seen that happen before |
| 23:34.06 | dvs | lawnchair: maybe the new cron needs new libraries |
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| 23:35.24 | pookey | hey all - where can I find a list of version numbers => version names mappings? |
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| 23:35.49 | simonrvn | for? |
| 23:35.58 | pookey | simonrvn: for debian releases |
| 23:36.14 | pookey | simonrvn: woody, sarge, sid, potato etc. |
| 23:36.14 | simonrvn | the site has that |
| 23:36.20 | simonrvn | or ask the bots |
| 23:36.25 | pookey | simonrvn: I've googled and checked the site, i must be asking for the wrong thing |
| 23:36.34 | simonrvn | !etch |
| 23:36.35 | dpkg | somebody said etch was the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
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| 23:36.51 | simonrvn | !tell pookey about sarge |
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| 23:36.55 | pookey | thanks - that's not the full list, but.. I think it will do |
| 23:37.02 | simonrvn | etc. |
| 23:37.32 | simonrvn | ask about buzz, hamm, slink, potato. ami missing one? |
| 23:37.52 | pookey | I could just look on a film database for a cast listing I guess ;) |
| 23:38.04 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 23:38.33 | pookey | anywhere other hten apt-get.org to search for pages? I'm trying to find a backport of libc6-xen for sarge |
| 23:38.47 | simonrvn | backports.org |
| 23:38.47 | devicenull | er, I'm having trouble getting my debian install working.. |
| 23:38.53 | devicenull | network works, I can ping the machine |
| 23:39.02 | devicenull | but it fails when installing the base system |
| 23:39.13 | pookey | simonrvn: thanks |
| 23:39.27 | devicenull | "The installer cannot figure out how to instal lDebian. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured" |
| 23:39.34 | devicenull | This is with i386-netinst |
| 23:39.41 | devicenull | 31r2 iirc |
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| 23:40.06 | dvs | devicenull: try the 2.6 kernel |
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| 23:40.26 | devicenull | k.. |
| 23:40.39 | devicenull | reboot, and I'm assuming some keyword at the boot prompt |
| 23:40.55 | dvs | devicenull: linux26 |
| 23:41.20 | devicenull | okay, good.. I dont even have to go through its help |
| 23:42.10 | dvs | devicenull: you just have to hit a function key to find it. ;-) |
| 23:42.26 | devicenull | I wonder if I scrwed up this cd |
| 23:42.29 | devicenull | it cant mount it |
| 23:43.00 | devicenull | but it managed to boot from it, and find it last time |
| 23:43.11 | devicenull | there we go |
| 23:43.28 | dvs | devicenull: did you check the md5 sum? |
| 23:43.33 | devicenull | it really wants to load floppy drivers |
| 23:43.39 | devicenull | no, I probably should have |
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| 23:46.17 | devicenull | its retreving packages now, thx |
| 23:46.28 | dvs | !beer me |
| 23:47.46 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: not sure yet |
| 23:48.02 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i can't tell if it was deleted .. or the bot is freaking out |
| 23:48.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: could be. I'll look at it once I get back |
| 23:48.19 | dondelelcaro | [taking someone to the airport] |
| 23:48.19 | abrotman | thanks |
| 23:48.25 | devicenull | do you know if grub can boot XP directly, or if I have to go through the windows bootloader for it? |
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| 23:50.26 | p0t | how can i verify where im testing or unstable? |
| 23:50.42 | dvs | devicenull: it can but I don't know how to do it |
| 23:50.51 | iko | Is it possible to compile a new kernel based on the running kernel, but only built with everything which is currently loaded? |
| 23:51.45 | dvs | iko: sure it's possible. but you have to do it all manually. |
| 23:52.12 | kbrooks | devicenull: yes you can get grub to |
| 23:52.15 | kbrooks | !windows' |
| 23:52.17 | devicenull | ookay. |
| 23:52.21 | kbrooks | !windows |
| 23:52.24 | kingsley | devicenull: I expect that you can find instructions on the web. Perhaps googling for "grub" and "xp" will find them. |
| 23:52.26 | kbrooks | !grub |
| 23:52.33 | devicenull | grub doesnt find my usb keyboard |
| 23:52.35 | devicenull | which sucks |
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| 23:52.52 | dvs | devicenull: that's more of a function of your kernle |
| 23:52.57 | iko | dvs: It seems like is't possible to be automated. |
| 23:52.57 | dvs | kernel |
| 23:53.05 | iko | it's, even |
| 23:53.13 | dvs | iko: No, I don't think so either. |
| 23:53.32 | iko | dvs: You don't? Why not? |
| 23:54.00 | dvs | iko: I'm agreeing with you. I don't think there's an automated way to configure the kernel that was. |
| 23:54.03 | dvs | way |
| 23:54.34 | |ryan| | how do you find out what bios device a hard drive is? |
| 23:54.51 | iko | dvs: It seems like it's possible to be automated. (this is what I meant) |
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| 23:57.22 | kingsley | |ryan|: Many BIOSs allow you to examine their configurations at boot time. Just press the right key while booting, and the BIOSs configuration screen will appear. |
| 23:57.49 | |ryan| | kingsley: need to do it without a reboot |
| 23:57.59 | |ryan| | I need to know what bios device to pass to lilo |
| 23:58.19 | iko | How can I make sure that nvidia's NvAgp is used? What does it need in the kernel configuration? And how do I make sure it gets loaded instead of agpgart? |
| 23:58.58 | kingsley | |ryan|: Why can't you reboot? |
| 23:59.12 | |ryan| | well, i could beboot |
| 23:59.27 | |ryan| | but it is a usb device, and my bios doesn't support usb |
| 23:59.39 | |ryan| | i am tring to hack an extlinux loader to work |
