| 00:00.02 | trevor | yea :/ |
| 00:00.12 | rhys | im curious how well that will work. AC is used because DC doesnt transfer long distances |
| 00:00.12 | trevor | you wouldnt happen to have a url for the rescure disk would you? |
| 00:00.28 | rhys | trevor, a slackware install cd does well for me. |
| 00:00.29 | trevor | yea, the main main thing is getting the smtp back at the least. |
| 00:00.42 | trevor | i have a few debian 3.0 install cds here from the old days i should bring to him |
| 00:00.44 | rhys | chroot into the system and run lilo |
| 00:00.54 | rhys | can you get a knoppix cd? |
| 00:00.57 | trevor | yea |
| 00:01.01 | trevor | got that here as well. |
| 00:01.01 | rhys | or a very nice one ive found, austrumi |
| 00:01.11 | trevor | I've got knoppox. |
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| 00:01.15 | trevor | ix* |
| 00:01.23 | rhys | its a lavatian distro, with a build in SAM password reset script, foraccessing NTFS and windows reg.. |
| 00:01.29 | thingfish | pox was right hehe |
| 00:01.33 | asg | knoppox sounds like a rather bad skin disease |
| 00:01.34 | trevor | nice. |
| 00:01.45 | trevor | ya heh, or a special hat. |
| 00:01.56 | asg | trevor: ask abrotman about the special hat |
| 00:01.59 | rhys | fast as hell, throw it in, caches the CD, knocks it out. boots to FVWM95, you just have to change a setting to get it into english |
| 00:02.05 | trevor | abrotman special hat |
| 00:02.14 | rhys | i use it alot on recovering windows systems |
| 00:02.23 | bronze | asg "knoppix" |
| 00:02.37 | abrotman | trevor: http://www.damog.net/files/pics/abrotman.jpg |
| 00:02.40 | asg | bronze: yes, I was punning |
| 00:02.52 | trevor | bronze I spelled it incorrectly as a typo, he was making fun of me. ;) |
| 00:02.54 | bronze | <small voice> oh.... :) |
| 00:03.19 | bronze | abrotman: My Eyes! My Eyes! |
| 00:03.35 | thingfish | the goggles! they do nothing! |
| 00:03.36 | trevor | haha |
| 00:03.42 | rhys | WHOA |
| 00:03.51 | asg | thingfish: you need the peril-sensitive sunglasses |
| 00:03.53 | trevor | thanks guys, back in a few, perhaps ;) |
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| 00:04.26 | rhys | wow, at least abrotman doesnt look llike a complete idiot. :D |
| 00:04.33 | abrotman | !mhallsmite rhys |
| 00:04.40 | abrotman | @mhallsmite rhys |
| 00:04.43 | abrotman | gah! |
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| 00:04.57 | rhys | .. |
| 00:04.58 | rhys | whoa |
| 00:05.04 | rhys | first a pick then that? |
| 00:05.08 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:05.19 | bronze | at least hi didn't use the brolly abrotman was wearing |
| 00:05.20 | rhys | abrotman, do you frequent gay bars? with the rainbow umbrella and all |
| 00:05.31 | bronze | hi/he |
| 00:05.33 | asg | rhys: he goes to baseball games |
| 00:05.33 | abrotman | rhys: it was a gift from damog |
| 00:05.39 | thingfish | rhys: I've never seen him at the ones I go to. |
| 00:05.54 | thingfish | :) |
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| 00:06.10 | heh_v_water | abrotman, for some reason the term "rainman" comes to mind :P |
| 00:06.15 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:06.50 | asg | abrotman: you'll love this, a local minor league team's mascot was arrested for groping a fan |
| 00:07.00 | heh_v_water | lol |
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| 00:08.40 | linolium | anyone know how to get Resin running with apache on debian? |
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| 00:09.16 | abrotman | asg: i read :) |
| 00:09.21 | abrotman | i am not rainman! |
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| 00:09.26 | stew | linolium: install java: /msg dpkg java-package ; then follow the docs on caucho.com for apahce |
| 00:09.42 | rhys | abrotman, |
| 00:09.50 | rhys | i am really slow on this, but i have a picture. and damn that enter key. |
| 00:10.07 | linolium | stew: why do I have to manually download JDK? |
| 00:10.10 | abrotman | rhys: ? |
| 00:10.13 | rhys | http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ecc75d86ba.jpg |
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| 00:10.20 | rhys | had to find it on my ntfs drive |
| 00:10.27 | rhys | havnt got everything converted to linux |
| 00:11.12 | stew | linolium: because i dont' think resin works with the free sdks, I think you have to use a non-free one, but i'm not positive. you can try a free one if you prefer, /msg dpkg install java |
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| 00:11.31 | stew | linolium: or if you want to know why debian cannot redistribute sun's java /msg dpkg java licensing |
| 00:12.50 | rhys | oh and stoned, the main reason i asked about bleeding edge is like gaim. v1.2 sarge. maybe 1.5 on etch. eh |
| 00:12.59 | rhys | i need to get a slackware box up come to think of it.. |
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| 00:19.33 | streuner | Do we have a slacksmite? |
| 00:19.38 | streuner | ;-) |
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| 00:20.46 | linux4 | does anyone know of a way to update the alsa packages |
| 00:20.59 | linux4 | im trying to compile through module assistant |
| 00:21.02 | linux4 | but nothing so far |
| 00:21.10 | streuner | the easy part is just update the kernel itself |
| 00:21.59 | streuner | What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 00:23.59 | rhys | thing about ohio....an hour in one direction brings me to the most expensive shopping mall in all of ohio..and a half hour in another direction. :D hommade bread, butter, and peach preserves. amish ROCK. |
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| 00:24.50 | yanger | is there a site that explains how to enable shadow passwds after installing dfs? |
| 00:25.02 | linolium | stew: the package java-package doesn't seem to be listed on my system |
| 00:25.14 | abrotman | hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:25.16 | streuner | rhys: /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 00:25.42 | rhys | streuner, first tab open, refers to a previous conversation. sorry |
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| 00:26.16 | Zewl | Is the php5-mysqli package available for sarge yet? |
| 00:26.28 | streuner | why it should? |
| 00:26.42 | streuner | no new packages goes into stable |
| 00:26.50 | Zewl | Why not? |
| 00:26.50 | streuner | only security fixes |
| 00:26.52 | Zewl | oh |
| 00:27.02 | Zewl | I thought it was supposed to be apart of sarge stable |
| 00:27.10 | streuner | Zewl: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:27.24 | stew | linolium: its in contrib, /msg dpkg contrib |
| 00:27.26 | Zewl | I'll get it from dotdeb |
| 00:27.28 | streuner | php5 isn't part of stable anyway... |
| 00:27.34 | stew | Zewl: no, use bpo |
| 00:27.39 | stew | Zewl: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 00:27.43 | streuner | or that |
| 00:28.00 | streuner | keep in mind, bpo isn't supported |
| 00:28.06 | streuner | so no security |
| 00:28.16 | stew | its a lot better than dotdeb though |
| 00:28.23 | Zewl | What about etch, is php5-mysqli part of that right now? |
| 00:28.28 | streuner | which doesn't mean much :-) |
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| 00:29.00 | streuner | Zewl: check out pdo |
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| 00:29.47 | streuner | dotdeb made broken debs |
| 00:30.01 | streuner | they package that stuff in really bad way |
| 00:30.09 | Zewl | Cool, thanks for the info.. I've been using dotdeb to get it done |
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| 00:30.33 | streuner | so better use stew's advise... |
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| 00:31.42 | lunitik | Zewl: bpo is backports from etch to sarge... so anything in bpo is in etch, yes |
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| 00:32.53 | byteshack2 | darn, I can't seem to find anyone in ubuntu able to help me |
| 00:33.03 | byteshack2 | any debootstrap gurus here? |
| 00:33.14 | lunitik | byteshack2: you won't find anyone in here willing to help Ubuntu users either |
| 00:33.24 | Zewl | bpo doesn't seem to have php5-mysqli |
| 00:33.31 | Zewl | atleast when I search for it on backports.org I get no results |
| 00:33.35 | byteshack2 | catch 22! |
| 00:33.45 | stew | lunitik: no its from sid to sarge, so there are things in bpo that aren't in etch |
| 00:33.46 | byteshack2 | lunitik, then I might just end up installing debian |
| 00:34.07 | lunitik | byteshack2: feel free to install Debian and come back |
| 00:34.09 | stew | byteshack2: what problems are you having with debootstrap? |
| 00:34.15 | Zewl | I think I need pdo instead for php5-mysqli |
| 00:34.18 | lunitik | stew: Ubuntu user |
| 00:34.28 | stew | lunitik: he's trying to install debian |
| 00:34.29 | byteshack2 | I'm trying to install debian, hopefully |
| 00:34.36 | byteshack2 | yes, thanks |
| 00:34.38 | ttyfscker | can someone here help me figure out why adobe flash plugin isnt accessing my hardware properly.. I am trying to run a videochat software from a webpage.. it detects my webcam but it doesnt load it.. the flash works with my hardware in windows |
| 00:35.03 | byteshack2 | I have a broken ubuntu install, a live CD (which has debootstrap), and I would like to install debian |
| 00:35.08 | lunitik | stew: ? bpo package numbers reflect far closer what is in etch? |
| 00:35.16 | rhys | ttyfscker, isnt it macromedia flash player |
| 00:35.28 | rhys | and why does this room hate ubuntu users so much? |
| 00:35.39 | streuner | no |
| 00:35.40 | rhys | not that i disagree |
| 00:35.41 | byteshack2 | I have hda1 for /, hda2 for "boot" (ubuntu default, I guess) and hda5 for swap |
| 00:35.46 | streuner | we don't hate ubuntu-users |
| 00:35.59 | ttyfscker | rhys:: no its adobe now.. |
| 00:36.01 | stew | lunitik: yes, becuase bpo is infrequently updated, however, you will find 2.6.16 linux kernels for instance which are in sid and not in etch |
| 00:36.02 | lunitik | rhys: we don't hate them, we simply can't support them, they're not using Debian |
| 00:36.03 | byteshack2 | you guys are way more knowledgeable, but no need to be harsh :) |
| 00:36.20 | p0t_ | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 00:36.26 | p0t_ | wtf do i do about that |
| 00:36.30 | byteshack2 | I would just get a debian ISO, but I don't have a way to burn a cd |
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| 00:36.33 | stew | p0t_: /msg dpkg marillat key |
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| 00:36.57 | byteshack2 | and right now, I'm running from a live CD, so I think I could install into hda without a debian cd, correct? |
| 00:36.58 | ttyfscker | actually from past experience it is a lot easier to get help from #debian rather than #ubuntu regardless of which you use |
| 00:37.16 | stew | byteshack2: yeah. do you need to save anything from hda? |
| 00:37.28 | ttyfscker | as long as it doesnt involve repositories/source/packages then there really isnt much difference... |
| 00:37.34 | byteshack2 | nope, I have my /home in /dev/hdb1 |
| 00:37.35 | lunitik | ttyfscker: sure, if you don't tell us you're using Ubuntu ;) |
| 00:37.40 | ttyfscker | yea |
| 00:37.40 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:37.41 | ttyfscker | lol |
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| 00:37.44 | stew | ttyfscker: there is enough that ubuntu users shouldn't be looking for support here |
| 00:37.44 | abrotman | we don't support ubuntu |
| 00:37.51 | byteshack2 | so as far as I'm concerned, hda can be blown away completely |
| 00:37.59 | lunitik | ttyfscker: and your issue isn't related to Gnome, they know a lot about Gnome |
| 00:38.12 | lunitik | abrotman: we covered that bit ;P |
| 00:38.15 | rhys | ubuntu doesnt have root. they have sudo. the devil. now, off to get sound |
| 00:38.17 | ttyfscker | stew:: check the people in #ubuntu.. not that its anyone in particular's fault.. they just arent as experienced as the people in #debian |
| 00:38.37 | abrotman | ttyfscker: tough shit? |
| 00:38.37 | stew | ttyfscker: doesn't matter |
| 00:38.42 | lunitik | rhys: I have sudo set up here... on a Debian box *g* ... makes life easier |
| 00:38.44 | ttyfscker | rhys:: that can be fixed by doing sudo passwd ;) |
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| 00:39.16 | ttyfscker | stew and abrotman dont get so hostile nobody has done anything.. |
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| 00:39.30 | abrotman | YOU BETTER RUN! |
| 00:39.33 | ttyfscker | man |
| 00:39.38 | stew | ttyfscker: i'm not sure what you think was hostile, i'm just making sure you know the channel policies |
| 00:39.40 | ttyfscker | dont start this .... |
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| 00:40.00 | streuner | dude, you are OT |
| 00:40.03 | byteshack2 | we can all be happy and help a noob (me!) |
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| 00:40.22 | ttyfscker | im not the one that asked an ubuntu question.. i just told them it was a dont ask dont tell policy in here.. |
| 00:40.28 | ttyfscker | and thats just the truth to it |
| 00:40.35 | llp | does anyone knows where I can download COMAS? |
| 00:40.37 | stew | ttyfscker: thats incorrect |
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| 00:40.52 | rhys | all ph34r the rightious wrath of abrotman stoned and stew!! |
| 00:40.52 | ttyfscker | stew:: then ok im wrong |
| 00:40.52 | stew | ttyfscker: its not a don't ask don't tell policy |
| 00:41.16 | buu | Argh. /proc/mdstat tells me I have an active raid5 on /dev/md0, but when I attempt to mount it, it fails with the generic mount error emssage |
| 00:41.22 | ttyfscker | stew:: then its a you ask and the ubuntu user lies policy.. and nothing happens.. |
| 00:41.29 | lunitik | ttyfscker: people can tell if you really are looking for help, and as soon as they do, you will cease to get help |
| 00:41.30 | byteshack2 | I was the one that asked something with the "ubuntu" substring in it and got the "get the f off" kinda response :) |
| 00:41.44 | dvs | buu: paste the output of /proc/mdstat |
| 00:41.55 | stew | ttyfscker: no that is not the channel's policy either, please stop spreading such nonsense |
| 00:42.03 | buu | sigh |
| 00:42.24 | byteshack2 | can I use the new debian-installer from a debootstrap install? |
| 00:42.31 | ttyfscker | im not spreading nonsense.. freenode just has a bad room for #ubuntu users.. and they tend to get help in #debian.. thats a fact that cant be changed... |
| 00:42.33 | abrotman | ttyfscker: and then we find out .. and they will probably never recieve help in this channel again because noone will trust them that they're really running debian |
| 00:42.37 | stew | byteshack2: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 ; mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2 ; <- that will format the partitions (wiping the data), then mount /dev/hda1 /mnt ; debootstrap sarge /mnt http://ftp.debian.org/debian ; <- that will install sarge to /mnt |
| 00:42.45 | lunitik | byteshack2: sure... look around for hard drive based install ... |
| 00:42.56 | ttyfscker | abrotman:: i know |
| 00:42.58 | abrotman | ttyfscker: then they shouldn't run ubuntu .. you pick that distro .. you get that support |
| 00:43.01 | buu | dvs: erxz.com/pb/2168 |
| 00:43.04 | streuner | ttyfscker: heh, not that we know :-) |
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| 00:43.23 | stew | ttyfscker: please don't tell people its ok to seek ubuntu help in here, because it isn't |
| 00:43.26 | byteshack2 | ok, one more "obvious one". hard-drive based install != debootstrap? |
| 00:43.42 | rhys | abrotman, what the hell is that? i mean...i thought you were all for the open source idea. doesn that include the free exchange of ideas and such? |
| 00:43.48 | rhys | wouldnt what your saying be directly against that? |
| 00:43.51 | ttyfscker | but anyway... does anyone know what would cause flashplayer to not access your webcam/mic yet it detects them? |
| 00:44.02 | stew | byteshack2: yes there is a hd install too, which is covered in the ig; /msg dpkg ig |
| 00:44.03 | lunitik | byteshack2: I'm pretty sure it is, yes... just pointing out that there are FAQ's on the subject around the web... |
| 00:44.09 | asg | rhys: if he cared about supporting ubuntu, he'd also be hanging out in #ubuntu |
| 00:44.09 | dvs | buu: It's still synchronizing but you should be able to mount /dev/md0 |
| 00:44.16 | buu | dvs: Yeah. I should. |
| 00:44.23 | abrotman | rhys: this is a channel to support debian .. NOT ubuntu .. they have thier own support channel .. debian differs significantly from ubuntu |
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| 00:44.48 | sscanf | Is it possible to assign a MAC address to the loopback interface in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 00:44.59 | p0t_ | why doesnt xine load the damn codecs when i give it the path and restart it |
| 00:45.01 | rhys | that i know. but your basicly acting like a debian fanboy. theres a difference between saying we dont support debian and "fook off and die ubuntu user" |
| 00:45.18 | ttyfscker | abrotman doesnt like the idea that ubuntu is debian "based" |
| 00:45.24 | asg | sscanf: it doesn't make any sense to do so. |
| 00:45.25 | stew | byteshack2: you shoudl read the stuff in /msg dpkg debootstrap ; and "/msg dpkg chroot install" as well |
| 00:45.28 | rhys | i go inbetween here and ##linux and ##slackware. |
| 00:45.31 | abrotman | rhys: no .. ubuntu has their own channel .. that's like asking why #redhat won't support Suse |
| 00:45.31 | lunitik | rhys: there are other mediums where exchange of ideas happens... IRC isn't the place... |
| 00:45.32 | sscanf | is it possible? |
| 00:45.33 | buu | dvs: erxz.com/pb/2169 |
| 00:45.34 | Ronin | more like he doesnt like ubuntu users coming here for help |
| 00:45.41 | ttyfscker | he hates it deep down inside but tries to not let people know that lol.. |
| 00:45.41 | rhys | ttyfscker, i quite agree with him. ubuntu is a horrible POS. |
| 00:45.43 | abrotman | ttyfscker: i could care less .. there are dozens of debian based distros |
| 00:45.43 | ttyfscker | right abrotman |
| 00:45.44 | sscanf | asg: can it be done? |
| 00:45.47 | byteshack2 | merci |
| 00:45.48 | stew | rhys: nobody said anything like that, please drop it |
| 00:45.51 | asg | sscanf: try it. If it is, it'll work; if not, it won't |
| 00:45.56 | predder | If I use the linux multidisk raid software for raid5 using 3 disks: if a drive dies (any drive) does the machine stay up or will it need to be re-built? |
| 00:46.16 | abrotman | ttyfscker: the fact is that there is #ubuntu for a reason .. and the answer you get from #debian could potentially destroy your ubuntu install |
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| 00:46.26 | buu | predder: It stays up, fully usable |
| 00:46.26 | dvs | buu: You didn't specify a file system type |
| 00:46.29 | linolium | stew: any idea what this means? error: Can't find valid JAVA_HOME /usr/lib/j2se/1.5 (I just installed java with the java-package created deb, and am now trying to create a deb with a script for resin) |
| 00:46.30 | buu | er.. |
| 00:46.38 | ttyfscker | abrotman:: on some cases true.. other cases no |
| 00:46.47 | buu | dvs: No difference.. |
| 00:46.58 | abrotman | ttyfscker: it doesn't matter .. they differ enough that it's a risk that any person shouldn't really take |
| 00:46.58 | stew | ttyfscker: please drop it, its off-topic here |
| 00:47.09 | Ronin | ttyfscker: and when youre the lucky when that it kills the system will you be so blase? no thats not spelled right |
| 00:47.11 | lunitik | abrotman: its actually more likely your answers from #ubuntu destroy your install... but I see your point :P |
| 00:47.13 | abrotman | ttyfscker: Ubuntu users should get support in #ubuntu .. end of story |
| 00:47.18 | asg | sscanf: out of curiosity, why would you want to? |
| 00:47.27 | stew | yes, lets please let that be the end of the story |
| 00:47.40 | rhys | right stew, differnt subject, that sound support for the most part in linux blows. and stew, really. we got talking about food and weather and places. things diverge from the topic. give something a bit of live. |
| 00:47.43 | asg | stew: but there will be a part II, electric bugaloo |
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| 00:48.00 | streuner | omg |
| 00:48.00 | sscanf | asg: a process is tied to a certian MAC address... |
| 00:48.07 | rhys | life8 |
| 00:48.08 | buu | dvs: It is a jfs |
| 00:48.17 | CHodapp | "sound support for the most part in linux" . . . what? |
| 00:48.22 | sscanf | asg: a process that I have, that is... |
| 00:48.23 | stew | linolium: dunno, sounds like the script is assuming that java was installed in /usr/lib/j2se in reality its something like /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun |
| 00:48.24 | dvs | buu: whoa. Never messed with jfs. |
| 00:48.28 | rhys | why is all sound control done exponentially? |
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| 00:48.42 | CHodapp | rhys, because that's how the ear hears. |
| 00:48.45 | stew | linolium: sounds like the script needs to be fixed, or you need to not use it, and just install resin to /opt or /usr/local/ |
| 00:49.06 | buu | dvs: Same thing really. |
| 00:49.27 | rhys | i have about 10 different things in "alsamixer" and the only one that actually works is at the end, added by the sound driver.VIA DXS. of which there are 4. i would guess for line in, mic, and the jumper for CD... |
| 00:49.32 | dvs | rhys: Because your hearing works exponentially. The decibal measurement is an exponential scale |
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| 00:49.40 | CHodapp | rhys, an exponential relationship in signal level or energy corresponds to a linear relationship in hearing. |
| 00:49.48 | rhys | but its horribly scratchy when its at low levels. dvs, im quite familiar with the decibal scale. |
| 00:50.00 | rhys | CHodapp, not linear in hearing. |
| 00:50.03 | mikefoo | Anyone know off hand if there is a vga-in and keyboard out for laptops? Looking to take a laptop only to a colo facility. |
| 00:50.13 | dvs | buu: I'd wait until the RAID array is finished being rebuilt |
| 00:50.18 | CHodapp | rhys, what then? |
| 00:50.29 | buu | dvs: It's actually synching, not rebuilding |
| 00:50.37 | predder | mikefoo, i've never seen a laptop with a vga-in |
| 00:50.46 | rhys | CHodapp, to the ear i have maybe 3-4 changes in sound with my sound card |
| 00:50.54 | stew | mikefoo: i don't think many (if any) laptops have vga monitors |
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| 00:51.06 | asg | sscanf: I don't think it's possible. You might get a second opinion from #networking though |
| 00:51.09 | CHodapp | How does your sound card relate to what I just said? |
| 00:51.13 | rhys | matter of fact, brb. ill switch it over to my sennheisers. |
| 00:52.07 | predder | mikefoo, there are monitor/mouse/keyboard setups that slot into a 2RU rack slot which are great for taking into colo and leaving behind. They're not cheap though |
| 00:52.08 | rhys | lunitk, gimme a second. |
| 00:52.14 | sscanf | asg: no its not. The lo is hardwired to "loopback" as the hardware type and can be re-speced as "eth" |
| 00:52.22 | sscanf | can't |
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| 00:52.50 | DrNach | I just installed the package viewcvs, where on localhost do I look to run it? |
| 00:53.06 | mikefoo | predder: yeah i know, we have one of them. |
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| 00:53.14 | lunitik | rhys: auto-complete is great... you mean sound daemons and such? they're not strictly necessary, just configure dmix :/ |
| 00:53.30 | PeregrineSky | does debian net-install support usb modems? |
| 00:53.38 | CHodapp | esound can be handy though |
| 00:53.39 | Kevin` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.43 | rhys | the problem being, not so much exponential. thats my speakers. im using dmix lunitik, not artsd. but on both slackware and debian, using my soundcard is scratchy |
| 00:53.53 | lunitik | PeregrineSky: #debian-boot could likely answer that better |
| 00:54.15 | rhys | it sounds scratchy as hell, no matter what i pipe through it. XMMS with mp3, wav files with aplay. |
| 00:54.16 | lunitik | rhys: what kind of sound card? |
| 00:54.26 | rhys | lunitik, onboard VIA 8232 i think |
| 00:54.31 | predder | !onboard |
| 00:54.31 | dpkg | All onboard sound, video, raid, network and modem cards suck great big donkey balls, and there's nothing you can do about it. unless your time is worth nothing, give up and buy a real card. This goes triple for raid. see tardware |
| 00:54.40 | predder | sorry, I had to ;) |
| 00:54.51 | PeregrineSky | lunitik: or not |
| 00:55.02 | rhys | predder, quite wrong. onboard sound sounds great on windows. |
| 00:55.11 | lunitik | PeregrineSky: #debian-boot is the installer channel |
| 00:55.19 | rhys | lunitik, via driver, but yea. C-media CMI9739 |
| 00:55.37 | PeregrineSky | lunitik: and if anyone was there i would ask, but there isnt so here i am |
| 00:55.55 | rhys | this was a problem with both this, and my onboard sound on my Asus board. Nforce2 chipset. |
| 00:56.05 | predder | rhys, about 2 weeks ago I asked in here why I have 2 machines dual booting debian and windows. Under windows sound is fine. Under linux (both are using onboard) the sound is absolutely terrible. |
| 00:56.14 | lunitik | rhys: CM8738 ... your card is newer, strange ... maybe your speakers just suck? |
| 00:56.23 | rhys | only with that board, it occasionally cut out and wouldnt keep volume |
| 00:56.36 | predder | The end result was someone said !onboard and now i'm looking into what sound card has decent linux support :P |
| 00:56.47 | rhys | lunitik, dont tell me that. sennheiser open can HD 497 headphones? |
| 00:56.48 | rhys | bullshit. |
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| 00:57.13 | rhys | predder, thus my statement "sound support under linux generally blows" |
| 00:57.53 | stew | rhys: generally it doesn't. spend $40 on a better sound card |
| 00:58.01 | rhys | stew, i shouldnt have to |
| 00:58.09 | predder | stew, for example? |
| 00:58.15 | predder | and I'm assuming $40 is USD |
| 00:58.18 | rhys | why does it work perfectly in windows? perfectly |
| 00:58.21 | rhys | and i dont much have to |
| 00:58.23 | Kevin` | ya, all windows designed stuff should work in linux, without thought on my part! |
| 00:58.23 | stew | predder: soundblaster live |
| 00:58.32 | linolium | stew: sorry to bother you again but.. if I try to configure resin with "./configure --with-apache=/usr" it comes out with Can't find Apache include directory.. and there doesn't seem to be anything apache-related in /lib |
| 00:58.32 | rhys | i have a soundblaster LIVE! with all the extras lieing around somewhere. |
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| 00:58.54 | vostorga | hey I've got a problem, my laptop doesnt detect my tv-out, I have a dell latitude |
| 00:59.06 | rhys | lunitik, i spent 75$ alone on my headphones. took a long time to find them. |
| 00:59.12 | stew | linolium: you probably need the apache-dev package(s) |
| 00:59.13 | Kevin` | rhys you should have researched the hardware before buying it |
| 00:59.27 | rhys | Kevin`, i havnt bought anything in almost 4 years |
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| 00:59.51 | predder | stew, lunitik, the only problem is the sound blaster cards dont have front panel audio out which is something i'd really miss from onboard |
| 00:59.55 | lunitik | rhys: I doubt Windows supports your card out of the box... perhaps because your manufacturer provides drivers for Windows... |
| 01:00.01 | stew | predder: you can buy it separately |
| 01:00.02 | etrask | is there a tool in Debian to update your DynDNS IP automatically every few hours or so? |
| 01:00.12 | bws42 | yes |
| 01:00.14 | bws42 | ddclient |
| 01:00.14 | rhys | and when i bought my Asus board, 4 years ago (its now dead and im on a chaintech board i scrounged up), it was the best Socket-A mobo there was. |
| 01:00.16 | lunitik | rhys: no matter what, the manufacturer will know their hardware better than anyone else |
| 01:00.23 | etrask | ah, thanks bws42 |
| 01:00.31 | JR2CooL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.42 | stew | the last time i looked at the via driver, the driver writers didn't seem happy with the hardware from the comments |
| 01:00.51 | stew | rhys: you should maybe take a look at the drivers, and see what you can do to help |
| 01:00.52 | rhys | JR2CooL, you cant really "net install" on dialup. |
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| 01:01.17 | rhys | stew, i know absolutly nothing about coding right now. its on my "to-do" list, along with morse code |
| 01:01.19 | happyhobo | Does deb-net install support usb cable modems |
| 01:01.21 | Kevin` | he probably means a usb-ethernet modem, cable or dsl |
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| 01:01.31 | rhys | and building my 5 element quadi for 2m amature radio.. |
| 01:01.31 | linolium | stew: hmm.. still the same error after installing apache2-dev |
| 01:01.33 | lunitik | rhys: USB modem != Dial up ... |
| 01:01.45 | stew | rhys: gah, these new hams that didn't even have to pass a 5wpm test like us old timers :P |
| 01:01.51 | happyhobo | motorola surfing board cable modem |
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| 01:02.06 | lunitik | happyhobo: stop... just go fire up the installer and see :/ |
| 01:02.19 | rhys | stew, not for technican. but im planning on getting around to that so i get my general license. so yea, 5wpm CW |
| 01:02.36 | Kevin` | happyhobo does the modem use ip/ethernet/dhcp, or pppoe? |
| 01:02.44 | happyhobo | dhcp |
| 01:02.47 | stew | rhys: oh is it only 5wpm for general now? hmm if so i wonder if i could use my previous tech-plus class as an automatic pass |
| 01:03.06 | Kevin` | happyhobo it'll probably work |
| 01:03.15 | stew | rhys: and only have to take the multiple choice, that i know i could pass no problem. i could never get above 10-11 wpm on code copy though |
| 01:03.20 | happyhobo | thanks |
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| 01:03.41 | rhys | stew, techplus is defunct now.. just tech general and extra. i dont know how long a techplus still applies. |
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| 01:04.15 | stew | rhys: yeah they converted my license to tech, but if you look me up on arrl it says "previous license class: tech-plus" which means i passed 5wpm |
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| 01:04.29 | stew | linolium: try apache=/usr/lib/apache2 maybe? |
| 01:04.40 | rhys | hmm |
| 01:04.47 | rhys | i need to go find that soundblaster card |
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| 01:05.45 | abrotman | lunitik: you have to understand how last.fm rates music |
| 01:06.02 | Kevin` | is there a key for 'run application' in gnome? |
| 01:06.08 | abrotman | a key? |
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| 01:06.16 | lunitik | abrotman: I ban all rock... and a lot of the techno... it still plays it :( |
| 01:06.26 | abrotman | lunitik: but you choose hip-hop |
| 01:06.28 | Kevin` | like windows+r in.. windows |
| 01:06.36 | evilgeek | Kevin`: if you're talking about something like the windows-R combination, then i don't think there is. |
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| 01:07.06 | Kevin` | :( |
| 01:07.10 | abrotman | lunitik: do you have any idea how last.fm works? |
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| 01:07.25 | JR2CooL | hey can someone help me with Gentoo installation ? |
| 01:07.27 | rhys | i dont use KDE, but is there a way i can change the themes on the KDE applications i use? |
| 01:07.31 | evilgeek | Kevin`: i'm sure this is configurable, though. ask #gnome or some such. |
| 01:07.34 | Kevin` | JR2CooL wrong channel |
| 01:07.35 | dvs | !lart JR2CooL |
| 01:07.38 | lunitik | evilgeek: how much have you listened to Hip Hop? (not the mainstream crap played on MTV) |
| 01:07.38 | stew | JR2CooL: "apt-get install gentoo" |
| 01:07.50 | abrotman | !stew++ |
| 01:07.56 | stew | !info gentoo |
| 01:08.00 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.55-1 (sid), Packaged size: 771 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
| 01:08.02 | lunitik | abrotman: not really... assuming similarly to Launch though... |
| 01:08.32 | evilgeek | lunitik: i've listened to the hiphop that gets played at clubs. |
| 01:08.34 | abrotman | lunitik: people can tag music .. so if someone tagged your techno as hiphop .. it will play .. and if someone that likes hiphop also likes techno .. it may also play |
| 01:08.41 | rhys | lunitik, xm48. SQUIZZ! i dont get xm, but a friend does. i love it. fucking rock here...Metallica, AC/DC, Rage against the machine. 24/7. dead serious. |
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| 01:08.49 | lunitik | evilgeek: yeah, thats mostly the mainstream MTV crap |
| 01:09.27 | rhys | matter of fact, about that soundcard Kevin` i havnt bought...-anything- in quite a few years. ive been about broke. spent a bit when my girl was here, all on her. damn women. |
| 01:09.31 | evilgeek | lunitik: okay then. |
| 01:09.57 | abrotman | lunitik: you said that without asking what kind of clubs .. tsk tsk |
| 01:09.59 | trevor | yay! working |
| 01:10.01 | trevor | thanks rhys |
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| 01:10.14 | rhys | trevor, what did you use? |
| 01:10.14 | lunitik | abrotman: ahhh... yeah, that's pretty much what I understood about it... |
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| 01:10.26 | trevor | debian cd after 2 different cdroms. |
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| 01:10.36 | lunitik | abrotman: I've never been to a club that plays people like Jeru the Damaja or Cannibus, you? |
| 01:10.51 | rhys | trevor, as i use it, debian pretty much sucks as a rescue disk. buit if it works. :D |
| 01:11.08 | trevor | yea heh. |
| 01:11.10 | trevor | all good :) |
| 01:11.16 | abrotman | lunitik: i don't go to clubs where people dance .. period :) |
| 01:11.30 | lunitik | abrotman: two left feet? :( |
| 01:11.38 | dvs | abrotman: that's about 95% of the clubs. ;-) |
| 01:11.50 | aidan | how can I extract the contents of an RPM? |
| 01:11.57 | abrotman | dvs: not my fault there aren't blues clubs anymore :) |
| 01:12.04 | lunitik | aidan: apt-cache show alien |
| 01:12.07 | rhys | another thing i need to add to my "todo" list. morse, c, and life. need to get them all. |
| 01:12.18 | abrotman | lunitik: no .. i just don't really like that style of music .. i'd rather sit in a smoky bar and hear some old man play the blues :) |
| 01:12.19 | lunitik | aidan: although you really should look into finding a .rpm first |
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| 01:12.24 | aidan | lunitik: unfortunately it's a 32bit rpm and I have a 64bit system, so alien is no good |
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| 01:12.48 | Kevin` | rpm2tgz.. think that's a slackware util though |
| 01:12.52 | lunitik | aidan: set up a 32bit chroot? |
| 01:12.53 | abrotman | aidan: find a 32bit system ? |
| 01:13.05 | abrotman | though .. i don't see why it matters to extract an rpm |
| 01:13.12 | lunitik | Kevin`: umm, alien handles slack packages too |
| 01:13.22 | Kevin` | so? |
| 01:13.25 | aidan | abrotman: because I need the stuff in it, obviously? |
| 01:13.43 | aidan | lunitik: is there another way? setting up a chroot is a lot of work to read an archive |
| 01:13.49 | abrotman | aidan: you misunderstood the question |
| 01:13.56 | aidan | abrotman: oops, sorry |
| 01:14.06 | abrotman | aidan: why won't it extract the RPM ? |
| 01:14.31 | aidan | abrotman: alien gives an error saying there's no appropriate file for the system type |
| 01:14.42 | lunitik | aidan: two options: 1) set up a 32bit chroot; 2) get a src.rpm ... extract and compile for your system ... or actually, 3 options, find a 64bit version... |
| 01:14.43 | abrotman | aidan: `file <file>` |
| 01:15.15 | aidan | there's no way to extract an RPM? I don't want to install it, just grab the binaries |
| 01:15.17 | Kevin` | if he wants to extract it, he should use a tool like rpm2cpio/tgz |
| 01:15.26 | abrotman | aidan: yes .. man rpm .. --relocate |
| 01:15.31 | abrotman | or something like that |
| 01:15.44 | abrotman | or --root ? |
| 01:15.45 | lunitik | aidan: man rpm ... I'd bet money there is... but I don't know the command |
| 01:15.48 | itchi | aidan: He, 7zip (p7zip) can extract rpm files btw |
| 01:16.49 | lunitik | Kevin`: why? |
| 01:16.50 | itchi | doh, have i press the pause button?? |
| 01:17.12 | asg | itchi: ctrl+q |
| 01:17.13 | Kevin` | lunitik I think that's better then installing it in a chroot.. |
| 01:17.40 | itchi | asg: Lol, no it's because i have tell a thing and sudenly i have see the guys telling lesser ;-) |
| 01:17.50 | lunitik | Kevin`: apt-cache show alien <-- the preferred way... but he wants to extract it, not install |
| 01:17.53 | asg | itchi: network latency is a bitch |
| 01:18.11 | Kevin` | exactly, he doesn't want to install it |
| 01:18.16 | aidan | The vendor recommended alien, unfortunatley they don't have any interest in providing a 64bit rpm |
| 01:18.18 | itchi | asg: Lol, apt-get remove beer ;-) |
| 01:18.29 | lunitik | Kevin`: Debian's 64bit ports are pure 64bit though... so he would _need_ a 32bit chroot for 32bit software to work |
| 01:18.34 | asg | itchi: apt-get remove --purge beer ; apt-get install more-beer |
| 01:18.45 | itchi | asg: lol ;-) |
| 01:19.04 | aidan | the first time I set up chroot to extract it, but since then I've removed the chroot. Luckily the program works with the 32bit emulation packages |
| 01:19.13 | rhys | what is with moo? |
| 01:19.19 | rhys | i cant run that. apt-get install moo |
| 01:19.27 | abrotman | rhys: apt-get moo |
| 01:19.28 | lunitik | rhys: apt-get moo |
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| 01:19.43 | rhys | lol |
| 01:19.57 | asg | rhys: cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 01:20.11 | abrotman | rhys: aptitude -v[v][v][v][v][v][v] moo |
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| 01:20.42 | abrotman | esg leekes Noommeees |
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| 01:21.00 | rhys | why doesnt aptitude have super cow powers. :( |
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| 01:21.29 | abrotman | rhys: keep going with extra v's |
| 01:21.35 | itchi | abrotman: He, my troubles are gone, i have change that HDD to another ide channel, looks only the one working solution. I not know if you remember yesterday |
| 01:22.02 | abrotman | sa!wwnu sa>|!7 6se |
| 01:22.14 | abrotman | itchi: that was yesterday? |
| 01:22.35 | itchi | abrotman: Of a day before, i not know like my days are of 36 hours :-/ |
| 01:22.49 | abrotman | i remember |
| 01:22.51 | abrotman | itchi: go sleep |
| 01:23.04 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, in an hour or 2 :-p |
| 01:23.38 | h6w | Hey, does anyone here have a vacation program that will detect an existing .forward file? Mine doesn't for some reason and I'm wondering I haven't set things up properly. |
| 01:23.40 | abrotman | guess that's better than a 6 hour day |
| 01:23.50 | abrotman | h6w: huh? |
| 01:23.58 | rhys | i need to throw in that soundblaster card. but something, anyone have any idea why debian tries to load a bunch of modules twice? |
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| 01:24.06 | dvs | abrotman: no, it's not. ;-) |
| 01:24.11 | rhys | and comes up saying they are already loaded? |
| 01:24.23 | abrotman | dvs: you'd like to sleep 18 hours a day ? |
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| 01:24.35 | dvs | abrotman: if i could, i would |
| 01:24.38 | abrotman | rhys: different automodule loaders ... don't worry about it |
| 01:24.43 | abrotman | dvs: that's just sick |
| 01:24.59 | dvs | abrotman: I'd be lucky to get 8 though |
| 01:25.06 | rhys | abrotman, it bothers me though. :( doesnt mess with anything, but extends the boot proccess by about 10-15 seconds |
| 01:25.07 | abrotman | exactly |
| 01:25.23 | abrotman | rhys: probably one is discover and the other is udev |
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| 01:25.48 | rhys | whats discover used by? |
| 01:26.04 | h6w | When I run "vacation" it's supposed to ask me a forth question if I have .forward file. It's supposed to say "You have a .forward file in your home directory containing: ..... Would you like to remove it and disable the vacation feature?" but mine doesn't. Instead it says "To enable the vacation program a '~/.forward' file is created. Would you like to enable the vacation program (y/N)?" |
| 01:26.04 | rhys | wait |
| 01:26.04 | rhys | dpkg! |
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| 01:26.08 | g333k | Hi, how can I find the IP of a person who I'm talking by msn with? |
| 01:26.16 | abrotman | you can't |
| 01:26.18 | asg | g333k: netstat |
| 01:26.31 | lunitik | rhys: afaik, its mostly used for video card probing via X now... |
| 01:26.41 | lunitik | rhys: as udev does most of its other tasks |
| 01:26.44 | g333k | asg, netstat plus? |
| 01:26.52 | asg | g333k: grep |
| 01:26.53 | abrotman | h6w: what are the perms on the .vacation ? |
| 01:26.55 | Kevin` | you connect to the msn server, not the person |
| 01:27.00 | abrotman | asg: it does a direct connect? |
| 01:27.04 | asg | g333k: actually, that won't work unless they make some sort of direct connection |
| 01:27.04 | h6w | g333k: Not directly. Unless you're in some kind of direct chat where msn transfers the conversation from server-based to IP-based. |
| 01:27.07 | rhys | abrotman, dont think so |
| 01:27.18 | RichiH | from server-based to IP-based |
| 01:27.24 | rhys | g33k, try it while running a file transfer or webcam |
| 01:27.31 | asg | g333k: you could always ask them |
| 01:27.31 | RichiH | ;) |
| 01:27.38 | rhys | i think the g.325 (?) protocol runs direct |
| 01:27.43 | g333k | asg, h6w, we both are behind a different NATs |
| 01:27.45 | asg | RichiH: like the flying monkeys in Wizard of Oz |
| 01:27.58 | RichiH | asg: they are overrated, anyway |
| 01:27.58 | Kevin` | g333k then how will the ip help you? |
| 01:28.05 | rhys | g333k, what do you want specificly? |
| 01:28.05 | RichiH | but then, so is the wizard of oz |
| 01:28.06 | asg | g333k: 1) you won't be able to connect anyway, 2) ask them to run /sbin/ifconfig |
| 01:28.13 | abrotman | g333k: why don't you just ask them |
| 01:28.19 | h6w | abrotman: I have .vacation.db or .vacation.msg |
| 01:28.21 | RichiH | anyway, gtg, goota get up in 3 1/2 hours |
| 01:28.22 | h6w | ? |
| 01:28.23 | RichiH | cya :) |
| 01:28.24 | g333k | Kevin`, having access to the router? |
| 01:28.30 | rhys | or go to http://whatismyip.com will give the ip of the nat. |
| 01:28.33 | Kevin` | ^ |
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| 01:28.41 | Kevin` | easiest way for people |
| 01:28.41 | abrotman | why is RichiH awake? |
| 01:28.49 | asg | abrotman: he's German |
| 01:28.49 | Kevin` | I usually have them connect to myself |
| 01:28.52 | asg | RichiH: night |
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| 01:29.16 | abrotman | asg: even streuner passed out a while ago |
| 01:29.16 | RichiH | nightie night |
| 01:29.24 | aidan | got it going, thanks very much |
| 01:29.32 | RichiH | asg: ah, but RichiH >>> streuner |
| 01:29.38 | asg | RichiH: agreed |
| 01:29.39 | itchi | aidan: With wath did you it finaly? |
| 01:29.40 | RichiH | and i don't mean bitshifting, either |
| 01:29.42 | aidan | rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivd |
| 01:29.56 | RichiH | anyway, realy off now |
| 01:29.58 | g333k | abrotman, well I dont want them to know that I'm finding their IP address |
| 01:30.11 | asg | g333k: try #hack on efnet |
| 01:30.15 | rhys | sleep. pfft. just like breathing, water, food pain and fear, (and shoes) all illusions created by the weak minded. |
| 01:30.17 | Kevin` | g333k have them go to a url you control |
| 01:30.18 | abrotman | g333k: ask MS |
| 01:30.31 | h6w | abrotman: .vacation.db 600 .vacation.db 664 |
| 01:30.31 | bbeck | does the stock sarge kernel have raid autodetection? |
| 01:30.32 | Kevin` | you can probably ask ms if your important enough |
| 01:30.35 | abrotman | RichiH: you're invading streuner ? |
| 01:30.38 | rhys | g333k, what the hell are you trying to do? |
| 01:30.40 | linux2 | anyone want to ssh to my laptop to help me get sound running? |
| 01:30.43 | abrotman | no |
| 01:30.50 | Kevin` | he's trying to hack their router remotely I think |
| 01:30.54 | abrotman | h6w: those aren't .forward |
| 01:30.56 | Kevin` | not much chance it will work :) |
| 01:31.00 | g333k | rhys, open some ports |
| 01:31.02 | asg | Kevin`: he's not likely to be successful |
| 01:31.08 | h6w | abrotman: sorry, that should be .vacation.db 6000 .vacation.msg 664 |
| 01:31.10 | rhys | linux2, maybe. whats the problem? |
| 01:31.11 | itchi | linux2: Yeah, put you pass here in and many will kill it!! |
| 01:31.17 | h6w | dammit 6000=600 |
| 01:31.26 | asg | no it doesn't |
| 01:31.32 | linux2 | rhys, well the module loads in alsa |
| 01:31.34 | linux2 | but no sound |
| 01:31.35 | itchi | linux2: Never never trust someone you not know!! |
| 01:31.35 | rhys | linux2, transfer the convo to DCC if you send any kind of pass |
| 01:31.47 | rhys | g333k, open some ports where? |
| 01:32.00 | rhys | linux2, itchi is quite right. never trust anyone you dont know |
| 01:32.06 | abrotman | !shell access |
| 01:32.06 | dpkg | DON'T be a moron. Offering shell access to random people you meet on IRC is the WORST thing you can do for your box's health. Yes, even if they offer to help you or fix something. Before sharing shell access, ask yourself this: Will I be able to go over to this person and stab them in the face with a spork? If not, you probably do not want to give them access. |
| 01:32.06 | linux2 | itchi, well, even if they ruin the os doesn't matter to me because i could just format and begin again |
| 01:32.18 | rhys | but tbh, im trying to get my sound fixed, so eh. |
| 01:32.21 | asg | lunitik: they do it from time to time |
| 01:32.32 | rhys | linux2, where are you at? |
| 01:32.34 | itchi | linux2: Read been what dpkg tell! |
| 01:32.43 | CHodapp | I WANT RUN ELITE IRC BOT |
| 01:32.44 | g333k | rhys, his router |
| 01:32.48 | rhys | well see if you can stab me in the face with a spork |
| 01:32.50 | CHodapp | GIVE ME SHELLL ACOUNT |
| 01:32.51 | asg | CHodapp: telnetd |
| 01:33.00 | linux2 | rhys, massachusettes |
| 01:33.06 | asg | !stab rhys in the face with a spork |
| 01:33.07 | rhys | short enough drive to ohio |
| 01:33.09 | Kevin` | CHodapp why should I give you a shell account? |
| 01:33.19 | linux2 | lol |
| 01:33.19 | rhys | hahah. |
| 01:33.31 | g333k | rhys, I find my friend's IP, I enter to his router and open a port that I need to do some P2P transfers, that's it |
| 01:33.36 | asg | a double |
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| 01:33.45 | Thanatermesis | why is not the version libfox1.6 on debian ? |
| 01:33.47 | Kevin` | g333k why not have him do that |
| 01:33.57 | abrotman | g333k: wrong channel .. not related to debian .. please go away |
| 01:33.59 | asg | g333k: I'm sure your friend can give you the information you need. Move along. |
| 01:34.02 | rhys | g333k, tell him to go to http://whatismyip.com |
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| 01:34.07 | abrotman | rhys: stop |
| 01:34.09 | itchi | g333k: You have take time to /find/ somethings to tell |
| 01:34.13 | g333k | yeah I'm know it is OT |
| 01:34.16 | rhys | aye g333k. leave. |
| 01:34.22 | Kevin` | OT? |
| 01:34.26 | abrotman | it's not just OT .. it's illegal afaict |
| 01:34.28 | asg | Kevin`: off-topic |
| 01:34.29 | abrotman | !OT |
| 01:34.29 | dpkg | well, ot is off topic |
| 01:34.56 | asg | Kevin`: apt-get install bsdgames ; /usr/games/wtf is ot |
| 01:35.14 | nflenz | oh sorry |
| 01:35.25 | nflenz | I was on the wrong window |
| 01:35.36 | lunitik | asg: thats for real a game? |
| 01:35.44 | abrotman | nflenz: huh ? |
| 01:35.46 | Thanatermesis | how to trace the "progress" of a package for debian ? (for example look about a pacakge to are in a old version and know WHY is not in a more recent version) |
| 01:35.46 | asg | lunitik: not a game per se but a useful utility |
| 01:35.49 | rhys | abrotman, i at least give the legal usefull solution. not debian, but why not |
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| 01:35.57 | asg | asg@rob:~$ /usr/games/wtf is ot |
| 01:35.57 | asg | OT: off topic |
| 01:36.10 | abrotman | rhys: because he's asking how to alter someone else's machine without permission .. usually illegal in most countries |
| 01:36.27 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: such as what in which version of debian? |
| 01:36.48 | rhys | eh. all i saw for the msot part was how to find someones IP. what is my ip.com is a nice tool. |
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| 01:37.17 | asg | rhys: 21:33 < g333k> rhys, I find my friend's IP, I enter to his router and open a port that I need to do some P2P transfers, that's it |
| 01:37.22 | asg | rhys: he could just ask the friend |
| 01:37.48 | asg | !phone a friend |
| 01:37.58 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, XFE (the file-manager), not supports UTF-8, and its totally unusable in utf-8 system (no only the interafce looks ugly but also broke the name of the files), it depends of libfox1.6 for supports utf-8, but libfox1.6 not are on debian, testing, unstable and experimental still on 1.4 |
| 01:38.17 | bbeck | I have a raid5 array on debian sarge, but can't seem to have it autodetected at bootup. I can use mdadm after boot to start it and then mount it just fine. I'd just like that to happen automatically and thought that autodetect was the way to do that. Can anyone help please? |
| 01:38.18 | abrotman | !why is xfe not in testing |
| 01:38.19 | dpkg | xfe is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=xfe |
| 01:38.21 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: ^^ |
| 01:41.10 | Thanatermesis | ok, thx |
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| 01:41.32 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: other than that .. contact the maintainer |
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| 01:43.14 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, is normal to the first link has a 404 ? http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libfox1.6 |
| 01:43.19 | sng | Dona Nobis Pacem. |
| 01:43.37 | lunitik | Thanatermesis: I thought XFce was using Thundar or whatever as the package manager now? |
| 01:43.41 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: is libfox1.6 in debian at all ? |
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| 01:44.22 | itchi | lunitik: thunar is it |
| 01:44.39 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, no... only 1.4... no trace of 1.6 |
| 01:44.49 | lunitik | itchi: yeah that! I thought that was the default file manager for XFce 4.4 (beta) |
| 01:44.54 | abrotman | then contact the maintainer |
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| 01:45.07 | Thanatermesis | lunitik, im not sure... i don't use xcfe (thunar, no thundar) |
| 01:45.18 | Thanatermesis | ok abrotman |
| 01:46.17 | lunitik | Thanatermesis: ahh... my fault, I mistook xffm for xfe |
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| 01:49.13 | MTecknology | I have a snes controller that I can calibrate just fine. That's ow I know there is input from the controller. I don't get any response from xev when I try to figure out how the buttons are mapped, and when I open an emulator, they are able to detect everything except my up/down and right/left axis - any help? |
| 01:49.29 | zspada15 | hi |
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| 01:50.04 | itchi | MTecknology: jcal or jscalibrator?? |
| 01:50.28 | itchi | MTecknology: Sorry jscal i mean |
| 01:50.57 | MTecknology | jscalibrator |
| 01:51.42 | zspada15 | im originally was on kde but my display got messed up and i had to reset my X11 server, and now i am on gnome and have no clue how to get switch back to kde |
| 01:51.47 | itchi | MTecknology: Both can do the job |
| 01:52.03 | itchi | MTecknology: Looks first if these axis are been working |
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| 01:52.27 | MTecknology | itchi, the axis work when I calibrate on either |
| 01:52.40 | itchi | zspada15: Use you gdm ? |
| 01:52.52 | zspada15 | excuse me? |
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| 01:53.01 | itchi | MTecknology: I guess then it's the fault of that other app you use |
| 01:53.22 | itchi | zspada15: What display manager use you? gdm, kdm ... |
| 01:53.22 | zamolxes | itchi: yoda! |
| 01:53.35 | itchi | zamolxes: Yeah that's nice lol |
| 01:54.44 | MTecknology | itchi, do you know how to remap my keys so I can link the axis it to something like w,a,s,d and use those keys instead |
| 01:55.38 | zspada15 | itchi: i wish i knew |
| 01:55.49 | itchi | MTecknology: It depend on of the app, for each app you need to define it i think. i do it so. I not know if we can set an wide config of it, normally widely the defaults actions needs to work |
| 01:55.50 | zspada15 | please excuse my noobishness, but im not sure |
| 01:55.54 | s0crates | hi everyone what's a good program to view and store pictures from a digital camera? |
| 01:56.00 | s0crates | for gnome preferably |
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| 01:56.48 | MTecknology | itchi, i was thinking about doing it globably |
| 01:56.48 | itchi | zspada15: ps aux | grep gdm replace eventually with kdm or so if you get no output |
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| 01:57.25 | itchi | MTecknology: I not how to that, i use only my joystick for Flight Gear Flight Simulator |
| 01:58.19 | zspada15 | itchi: what am i supposed to do with that information? |
| 01:58.45 | itchi | zspada15: So you know if you have gdm or kdm or whatever running, i not know what you runn lol |
| 01:58.49 | itchi | !dm |
| 01:58.49 | dpkg | DM means display manager. xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about nodm if you want to disable the DM. |
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| 01:59.18 | itchi | zspada15: On the login screen of your dm you can specify wich desktop you want to use |
| 01:59.21 | zspada15 | itchi: both of those are running |
| 01:59.30 | CHodapp | Is anyone running Windowmaker? Any know why it was doing a horrible sloppy job of updating windows when you'd move them on top of each other? |
| 02:00.09 | itchi | zspada15: Know better, log of and you go back to the login screen, shoose there the desktop you want to use |
| 02:00.19 | itchi | ggrr |
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| 02:03.10 | rhys | what port does identd run on/ |
| 02:03.12 | rhys | ? |
| 02:03.18 | asg | rhys: 113 |
| 02:03.24 | rhys | ty |
| 02:03.26 | asg | rhys: grep ident /etc/services |
| 02:03.30 | abrotman | rhys: cat /etc/services | grep 113 |
| 02:03.33 | abrotman | !uuoc me |
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| 02:03.41 | asg | abrotman: hah |
| 02:03.47 | rhys | lol |
| 02:03.56 | abrotman | grepping for 113 is no good either |
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| 02:05.01 | asg | abrotman: your heart was in the right place |
| 02:05.23 | abrotman | yeah .. it's easier to grep for the port when you know the port |
| 02:05.31 | rhys | hmm...how do i find out what kernel im currently using/ |
| 02:05.32 | rhys | ? |
| 02:05.39 | abrotman | uname -a |
| 02:05.40 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 02:05.41 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 02:06.02 | simonrvn | hello |
| 02:06.03 | rhys | abrotman, just another command i add to my list. im slowly learning |
| 02:06.09 | asg | simonrvn: hiya |
| 02:06.27 | abrotman | simonrvn: did you know that canada isn't part of the united states? |
| 02:06.56 | asg | abrotman: geez eh, don't crank his tail |
| 02:07.02 | simonrvn | did you know the u.s. and canada aren't real nation-states? |
| 02:07.13 | rhys | simonrvn, ? wha? |
| 02:07.13 | simonrvn | how about that for cranking tails ;) |
| 02:07.30 | simonrvn | asg: me cranked? nah :) |
| 02:07.34 | abrotman | simonrvn: yeah .. but the people who care about that are oppressed :) |
| 02:07.36 | asg | simonrvn: :) |
| 02:07.48 | MTecknology | How can I see what keys are being pressed, i tried xev, but it's not returning values from my LPT1 port |
| 02:08.14 | asg | MTecknology: lpt1 is a parallel port |
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| 02:08.33 | MTecknology | asg, right |
| 02:08.38 | simonrvn | abrotman: oh don't worry, the people who doing the oppressing will have their day soon ;) |
| 02:08.46 | asg | MTecknology: you're typing with a printer? |
| 02:08.51 | MTecknology | it's a homemade joystick |
| 02:08.51 | abrotman | simonrvn: one can only hope |
| 02:09.09 | simonrvn | it's a fact, not sure when, but within our lifetimes |
| 02:09.17 | abrotman | !tell mtimmerm_AWAY about away |
| 02:09.22 | asg | mtimmerm_AWAY: turn that off please |
| 02:09.37 | simonrvn | holy, that was annoying. worst one i've seen |
| 02:09.39 | itchi | MTecknology: Sure these are working right? I gues if you can made it, you can test if these are been working like expected?? |
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| 02:10.38 | itchi | His away time is fault :-p |
| 02:10.43 | MTecknology | itchi, i can calibrate them just fine - i know the problem is the app I'm trying to run |
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| 02:11.25 | itchi | MTecknology: You need to look to that particular app you want to use, probably these have some docs about how to ... |
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| 02:11.29 | MTecknology | I want to know how to see what input is coming in so I can remap it to other keys that the app can hear |
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| 02:12.00 | MTecknology | itchi, i've tried 3 emulators, they all do the same thing |
| 02:12.14 | itchi | MTecknology: jstest |
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| 02:12.35 | MTecknology | itchi, how do I use jstest |
| 02:12.49 | itchi | MTecknology: Begin with man jstest |
| 02:13.11 | MTecknology | michael@madhemlap:~$ jstest --event /dev/input/js0 |
| 02:13.11 | MTecknology | Driver version is 2.1.0. |
| 02:13.11 | MTecknology | Joystick (SNES pad) has 2 axes (X, X) |
| 02:13.11 | MTecknology | Segmentation fault |
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| 02:13.22 | MTecknology | sry |
| 02:13.34 | itchi | MTecknology: Youre selfmade thing bugy? |
| 02:13.40 | MTecknology | idk |
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| 02:13.55 | MTecknology | it's made the same way hundereds of others have been made |
| 02:14.01 | itchi | MTecknology: I use js_demo but that's an app of fgfs i think |
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| 02:15.09 | MTecknology | fgfs isn't in my repo |
| 02:15.26 | MTecknology | i'm on ubuntu - but i'm not getting help in those channels |
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| 02:16.00 | asg | MTecknology: can you help me with my genital warts. I'm not getting help with them in those channels |
| 02:16.07 | itchi | MTecknology: It's flight Gear Flight Simulator, but a bit overkill just to test your stuff :-/ But give fgfs an try, realy nice |
| 02:16.19 | MTecknology | aight |
| 02:16.31 | stew | MTecknology: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu, if you cannot get help there, try a mailing list maybe |
| 02:16.47 | MTecknology | asg, have you tried a match? |
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| 02:16.58 | X600 | How do you get apt to shut up about dependencies? |
| 02:16.59 | X600 | Or rather... |
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| 02:17.08 | asg | MTecknology: only for mosquitos |
| 02:17.29 | stew | X600: install the dependencies |
| 02:17.53 | X600 | stew: I can't. It won't overwrite /etc/X11R6 because it's used by opera. |
| 02:18.10 | X600 | And I can't remove opera because it just yells at me because of the broken dependencies for what I'm trying to install. |
| 02:18.33 | abrotman | paste the errors |
| 02:18.44 | X600 | Difficult to do. I'm not running X. |
| 02:18.49 | stew | X600: you hsould try to find an opera package that supports X11R7 |
| 02:18.50 | itchi | X600: On a paster, not here |
| 02:18.53 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 02:18.53 | dpkg | methinks pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 02:19.03 | abrotman | and i don't know what version of opera you're installing .. but opera doesn't install to /etc/X11R6/ |
| 02:19.04 | X600 | stew: Actually, I just want Opera gone. |
| 02:19.17 | X600 | No. Opera is already installed. I can not remove it. |
| 02:19.23 | MTecknology | stew my problem is on the level that any debian based distro channel is in the realm of helping me |
| 02:19.30 | X600 | It says it requires /etc/X11R6/bin. |
| 02:19.39 | X600 | So it can't overwrite it. I'm trying to upgrade X. |
| 02:19.44 | MTecknology | except that it's an uncommon problem and not many people have any idea |
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| 02:19.53 | stew | MTecknology: please go to #ubuntu |
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| 02:20.00 | MTecknology | stew, i was there |
| 02:20.15 | abrotman | X600: on debian ? |
| 02:20.19 | X600 | abrotman: Yes. |
| 02:20.27 | MTecknology | stew, if you want to tell me to go to a specific channel you should tell me to go to gdm or gnome |
| 02:20.40 | abrotman | X600: which version of opera |
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| 02:20.56 | X600 | I don't even know. |
| 02:21.04 | abrotman | well .. you downloaded it |
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| 02:21.15 | abrotman | X600: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does it isay ? |
| 02:21.16 | abrotman | it say ? |
| 02:21.19 | X600 | Over a year ago. I just installed it out of curiosity. |
| 02:21.43 | abrotman | the opera debian package doesn't have files in /etc/X11R6/ |
| 02:22.06 | rhys | is there way to print the startup messages? |
| 02:22.14 | X600 | I don't even remember if I installed the Debian one or if I got it from elsewhere. |
| 02:22.20 | abrotman | X600: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does it say ? |
| 02:22.23 | stew | X600: there isn't a debian one |
| 02:22.29 | X600 | ii libc6 2.3.6-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 02:22.42 | X600 | stew: Then that answers that. I didn't install a Debian opera package, then. |
| 02:22.42 | stew | X600: can you pastebin the output you get from "apt-get remove opera"? |
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| 02:22.58 | abrotman | X600: dpkg -l opera* |
| 02:23.00 | `ns` | I just arrived home to find unknown net activity on my machine, put the firewall on and the activity stopped. did a netstat, and the only thing I see unusual is the following line : |
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| 02:23.03 | X600 | stew: How would I copy it to pastebin? |
| 02:23.07 | abrotman | not in here .. or just the last line if there is one |
| 02:23.09 | `ns` | tcp6 1 1 ::ffff:192.168.2.10:ssh leadfive.americann:4107 LAST_ACK |
| 02:23.30 | rhys | is there a way to print the startup messageS? |
| 02:23.31 | stew | X600: /msg dpkg pastewithoutx |
| 02:23.39 | asg | rhys: dmesg | lpr |
| 02:23.39 | `ns` | any ideas on what that line signifies |
| 02:23.46 | stew | rhys: /msg dpkg bootlog |
| 02:23.51 | X600 | abrotman: Well, here's the version: 8.52-20060201 |
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| 02:24.04 | abrotman | purge it |
| 02:24.55 | rhys | oh |
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| 02:25.38 | X600 | I just purged it... |
| 02:25.56 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:25.58 | X600 | That seemed to work. Don't know why I didn't think of using dpkg for it. |
| 02:26.56 | cheikh | after installing knoppix i wanna upgrade to the latest what is the best way to do it |
| 02:27.09 | stew | cheikh: please go to #knoppix for help with knoppix |
| 02:27.12 | asg | cheikh: #knoppix would know |
| 02:27.18 | abrotman | gonads and strife! |
| 02:27.20 | itchi | cheikh: The best way, ask #knoppix, the know about it |
| 02:27.25 | asg | abrotman: yes, gonads and strife |
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| 02:29.58 | Thanatermesis | stew, i have a *bug* where you maybe are interessed to know... when you use gparted for made partitions (i think to any parter), and ivman running, ivman detects the partition and try to mount when gparted not has finish the job and well... result, gparted crashed |
| 02:30.31 | stew | Thanatermesis: can you please use reportbug? |
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| 02:31.10 | Thanatermesis | BTS for ivman package, yes ? |
| 02:31.48 | abrotman | stew: but it only happens with elive? :) |
| 02:32.01 | stew | Thanatermesis: yes |
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| 02:32.34 | abrotman | doesn't elive have it's own bts? |
| 02:32.45 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, Elive has their own configurations for ivman.. but i think to its a problem for debian also (or any usage of ivman) |
| 02:33.07 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, yeah... i not have problem to fix it on Elive... i just inform to stew because maybe are interessed to know this stuff :) |
| 02:33.07 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: shouldn't you test that before filing a bug on the package ? |
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| 02:34.03 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, http://bug-elive.cocotier.ch/?do=details&id=10&histring= |
| 02:34.40 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: so you can include a patch in your bug report? |
| 02:35.04 | stew | its probably going to end up being a problem in hal, all ivman really does is react to what hal tells it |
| 02:36.21 | Thanatermesis | not really... this happens on the moment of the installation then i have fixed the installer for this... but i need to reopen this ticket, of course this can happens in any moment parting a disk.. well, i need to think a little how to fix this... maybe ivman looking if exist fdisk/gparted/qtparted/cfdisk/sfdisk... working before to try to mount a disk... |
| 02:37.07 | stew | Thanatermesis: the real fix would probably involve hal not reporting it as a mountable volume until its really mountable |
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| 02:37.55 | Thanatermesis | stew, yes... this sounds normal... the parter application create a new disk, in this exact moment hal/ivman detects it and mount it... but the problem is to hal/ivman detects it very fast (well... in the moment to this partition are creating) and well... you imagine what happens |
| 02:38.17 | abrotman | use a 486 .. problem solved! |
| 02:38.19 | stew | Thanatermesis: wait does parted actuall create a filesystem or just the partition? |
| 02:38.24 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 02:38.36 | Thanatermesis | gparted not only part but also format the partitions (then is a real mountable partition) |
| 02:38.44 | Thanatermesis | lol abrotman |
| 02:39.31 | Thanatermesis | yes, it make the filesystem also |
| 02:40.54 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... by another hand... if you are formating a disk with any tool... (we supose to this format needs 20 seconds), hal detects it after to the format has finished or since the format has started ? |
| 02:41.13 | stew | Thanatermesis: after it has finished |
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| 02:42.02 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: i think you need to do some more testing :) |
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| 02:43.14 | Thanatermesis | hum... well... im just testing the stuff now... i part a disk: 1 swap + 1 ext2 + 1 extended partition with 2 partitions... ok... i click the button "apply" (then the applications made all the changes on the disk), after to format the first partition (the swap), it receive a error and after it crash... maybe is bad for gparted to "mount partitions on the disk when is working" |
| 02:44.30 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: arne't you testing this on elive? |
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| 02:45.09 | Thanatermesis | just another same disk parted now... no any problem with ivman not working |
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| 02:46.19 | Thanatermesis | abrotman, yes.. Elive... based on Debian ETCH actually with gparted + libparted + ivman from Debian ETCH (ivman with Elive configurations) |
| 02:46.34 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: so shouldn't you be asking #elive ? |
| 02:46.52 | Thanatermesis | nah, i don't need it ;) |
| 02:47.51 | abrotman | but it's not related to debian ... |
| 02:48.35 | Thanatermesis | in some part... im just showing to stew a problem to i look here using ivman + gparted.... i think to its interessing for he to know this stuff |
| 02:49.08 | abrotman | make sure it exists on debian .. then file a bug/bother the DD |
| 02:49.18 | heh_v_water | abrotman, off topic but it's been bugging me since I seen that pic, you are ALOT younger than I imagined, probably about the same age as me even |
| 02:49.33 | abrotman | heh_v_water: what makes you think i'm young ? |
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| 02:49.44 | heh_v_water | that pic you look under 40 anyhow |
| 02:49.51 | abrotman | yes .. under 40 .. |
| 02:49.57 | abrotman | that's a lot of space :) |
| 02:50.15 | abrotman | heh_v_water: how old would you guess i am ? |
| 02:50.23 | heh_v_water | my guess is 36 |
| 02:50.31 | abrotman | dude ... |
| 02:50.32 | heh_v_water | if that |
| 02:50.38 | abrotman | i .. i .. i'm shocked |
| 02:50.44 | heh_v_water | your in your 20's? |
| 02:50.58 | abrotman | most people that see me in person peg me at about 21-23 .. |
| 02:51.11 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 02:51.13 | larrikin | I say 13 |
| 02:51.14 | bws42 | there's nothing wrong with being 21-23 |
| 02:51.16 | bws42 | I quite enjoy it |
| 02:51.28 | abrotman | no .. the thing is .. i'll be 30 in three months |
| 02:51.38 | Ronin | young pup |
| 02:51.44 | heh_v_water | pint I am making is you've got a bright future for yourself IMHO |
| 02:51.45 | abrotman | heh_v_water: i still get carded for beer |
| 02:51.48 | larrikin | damn you're old.. I'm only 35 in a couple of months |
| 02:51.58 | abrotman | i wasn't saying i was old ... |
| 02:52.03 | itchi | yeah, i'm younger :-p |
| 02:52.10 | bws42 | lol, you've got 8 years on me :P |
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| 02:53.39 | Ronin | bunch of children tonight ;) |
| 02:54.13 | abrotman | Ronin: what are you .. 57? |
| 02:54.21 | itchi | Ronin: If you think >20 are childeren, your a baby! |
| 02:54.25 | heh_v_water | now I don't want to shoot anyone down here but I have spent a bit of time in this channel over the last few years and abrotman has more answers than most folks.. and that is truly an impressive feat in this channel |
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| 02:55.04 | heh_v_water | I've been using debian since potato |
| 02:55.06 | itchi | heh_v_water: Yeah abrotman are one of the good guys here ;-) |
| 02:55.37 | abrotman | heh_v_water: you never had another nick ? |
| 02:55.45 | heh_v_water | I have used other nic in here, pissed off some folks when I first started and didn't know any better |
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| 02:56.04 | Ronin | abrotman: not that bad, working on 42 shortly |
| 02:56.05 | heh_v_water | thought i was being iggied so i changed to this one |
| 02:56.06 | abrotman | asg: btw .. i now have "WEEEEEEEEEEEEE gonads and strife" stuck in my head ... |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | heh_v_water: that's a bit vague :) |
| 02:56.21 | heh_v_water | lol I love the squirrel |
| 02:56.28 | heh_v_water | my nick used to be burd |
| 02:56.32 | abrotman | turd? |
| 02:56.35 | heh_v_water | yessa |
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| 02:56.41 | abrotman | i don't remember burd either .. |
| 02:56.46 | abrotman | see .. in my old age .. my mind is going |
| 02:57.00 | heh_v_water | amazes me cause I believe your one of the folks I pissed off really good lol |
| 02:57.01 | Ronin | it only gets better abrotman :) |
| 02:57.27 | abrotman | heh_v_water: it was 'burd' ? |
| 02:57.32 | abrotman | Ronin: do you remember 'burd' ? |
| 02:57.49 | heh_v_water | for the first couple years I used debian I HATED coming into this channel for advice, now i just "understand" |
| 02:58.06 | Ronin | no idea who burd is |
| 02:58.09 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 02:58.15 | itchi | heh_v_water: He, i know about it ;-) |
| 02:58.22 | abrotman | heh_v_water: you pissed me off good ? |
| 02:58.26 | Ronin | well its time for this old fart to get some sleep |
| 02:58.27 | heh_v_water | it's a registered nic |
| 02:58.28 | abrotman | heh_v_water: have you changed ISPs? :) |
| 02:58.39 | abrotman | Ronin: don't forget to take your metamucil |
| 02:58.47 | heh_v_water | abrotman, umm yah i think so |
| 02:58.55 | heh_v_water | I mean same ISP but different subnets |
| 02:58.56 | abrotman | maybe that's why .. dunno |
| 02:59.25 | abrotman | if it was years ago .. i wouldn't remember most likely ... |
| 02:59.52 | heh_v_water | today was interesting in this channel to me, it was the first time i felt this "family" atmosphere thing happening, I liked what I saw |
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| 03:00.02 | abrotman | i can't even remember what color underwear i wore yesterday |
| 03:01.02 | itchi | abrotman: If you make an shit line in your boxer shot, i'm sure you remember the color of it :-/ :-p |
| 03:01.06 | heh_v_water | it was the same feeling I get hangin with my homies on our own chat network |
| 03:01.17 | itchi | oegf, late humor |
| 03:01.21 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 03:01.45 | abrotman | heh_v_water: if you prefer .. i can yell at you for something :) |
| 03:01.58 | heh_v_water | no thanks |
| 03:02.14 | heh_v_water | been a rough month for me to say the least |
| 03:02.41 | heh_v_water | if I ever had anything coming to me, this month I got it |
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| 03:03.35 | abrotman | holy crap .. giambi passed jack clark for homers |
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| 03:05.48 | heh_v_water | my thing with hangin in here is, i can't afford to donate to Debian money wise, but I can come in here and help a few noobs every once in a while, maybe take some of the boring day after day stuff away from the more active folks so they can work. eventually I plan on doing something to aid the debian project though. I have 10+ web server worldwide I manage, all debian and it has been really good to me for the most part |
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| 03:06.08 | heh_v_water | and for that I think i owe Debian something |
| 03:07.12 | bws42 | yeah, I've got debian on two routers and my laptop, it is quite nice :) |
| 03:07.16 | abrotman | you can donate all kinds of ways |
| 03:07.27 | bws42 | though it looks like I'm getting red hat at work |
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| 03:07.33 | abrotman | fix bugs .. package software .. donate hardware(if you have it) |
| 03:08.14 | CompWizrd | don't forget to feed the trolls too! |
| 03:08.19 | heh_v_water | thats my goal eventually, i am learning all kinds of scripting etc, I'm about as dumb as they get when it comes to C or anything usefull, this week i managed to dive into perl and I'm likig t so.. |
| 03:08.58 | heh_v_water | i think at this point all i would be good for is at best man pages |
| 03:08.59 | abrotman | !botsnack |
| 03:08.59 | dpkg | abrotman: thanks |
| 03:09.07 | abrotman | heh_v_water: they could use documentation too |
| 03:09.26 | heh_v_water | yah |
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| 03:09.45 | heh_v_water | just hard to get anywhere cause I'm developing my own things, attending college and working two part time jobs so.. |
| 03:09.51 | bhundven | yo! I'm trying to post a username and password to a form so I can get information from a website after the login. I'm following this script: http://blog.maisnam.com/archives/cat_scripts.php |
| 03:09.56 | bhundven | but the -post_data isn't working |
| 03:10.02 | bhundven | I was wondering if anyone here has ever tried this? |
| 03:10.18 | abrotman | anyways .. you folks have a nice evening .. old man going to bed :) |
| 03:10.26 | heh_v_water | lol nite man |
| 03:10.41 | meff | i need to compile some m68k source on a i386 host.. i cannot find any cross compiling packages for this pair in sid, does anyone know offhand an easy way to accomplish this? |
| 03:10.48 | heh_v_water | bhundven, I would suggest #php but I do know some php |
| 03:11.02 | bhundven | no. it's a lynx thing |
| 03:11.04 | itchi | abrotman: Sleep well old man ;-) |
| 03:11.22 | heh_v_water | bhundven, be carefull with lynx, it caches pages in a weird way iirc |
| 03:11.34 | bhundven | I'm not worried about it |
| 03:11.49 | heh_v_water | bhundven, what i mean is, you make changes but they don't appear in lynx |
| 03:12.06 | heh_v_water | it uses a cached page, the original one |
| 03:12.09 | bhundven | right. not worried. I'm wacking .lynx everytime |
| 03:12.14 | heh_v_water | k |
| 03:12.35 | heh_v_water | the post data should have nothing to do with the browser anyhow |
| 03:12.53 | heh_v_water | i wouldn't think.. |
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| 03:13.02 | bhundven | I'm using it on cron to get the difference between ticket notes on a web page once per hour |
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| 03:13.53 | dan2 | asg, ding ding ding |
| 03:13.56 | bhundven | but I can't get it to work |
| 03:14.01 | heh_v_water | bhundven, you just popped up over my head sorry |
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| 03:16.27 | bhundven | ok. so I work for an ISP and the vendor we work with is very uncooperative. I need to check tickets for ticket updates once per hour (cron will handle this just nicely). The idea is the page with the information i need is on the other side of a form type login (I wish it were http login), so I'm told if I use lynx -post_data it will post data that I cat to lynx so that I can get the data after the login. |
| 03:17.09 | bhundven | after that I can use 'diff' to email myself the difference in ticket updates |
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| 03:20.22 | Thanatermesis | stew, who set the parameters of mount when ivman detects a thing ? the policy's of hal ? |
| 03:20.40 | MTecknology | Is there nobody in here that knows anything about snes emulating??? I need help and I've searched google as far as I can. |
| 03:22.17 | Thanatermesis | MTecknology, apt-cache search snes ... i think to exist a good one called "snes9xpress" or similar |
| 03:22.28 | Thanatermesis | is a front-end to snes9x |
| 03:22.40 | MTecknology | I've tried that too and get the same problem |
| 03:23.34 | MTecknology | Does this silence mean no help? |
| 03:23.53 | Thanatermesis | what is the problem of you have ? |
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| 03:25.51 | stew | MTecknology: please go to #ubuntu |
| 03:26.07 | MTecknology | stew I've been there get off my back |
| 03:26.17 | stew | MTecknology: you are off-topic here |
| 03:26.41 | MTecknology | stew I'm apparantly off-topic everywhere, including #ubuntu |
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| 03:27.00 | MTecknology | You seem to be the ONLY person with a problem |
| 03:27.01 | stew | Thanatermesis: it depends on what command you are telling ivman to use, for instance if you use pmount it will come with a lot of its own options |
| 03:27.21 | stew | MTecknology: i'm sorry we're unable to help you here |
| 03:27.59 | MTecknology | stew, i was getting help in here but the knowledge has been exhausted - NOW LEAVE ME ALONE |
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| 03:28.34 | bws42 | argh why |
| 03:28.55 | jetscreamer | omg who made HIM an op :) |
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| 03:34.50 | Thanatermesis | stew, well, i mean the "auto" mode from ivman, for example when you plug a usb stick and the confs say's to mount it automatically |
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| 03:45.03 | heh_v_water | I had to laugh today, i built a wireless access point for one of the labs at the college and my boss doesnt know a thing about linux, she goes.. you got antivirus on there right? maybe you could install avg or something(windows)I kinda chuckled and told her that the machine doesn't really do anything that would contract a virus but I can, |
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| 03:46.22 | larrikin | so you don't mind if I install a rootkit ? |
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| 03:46.58 | simonrvn | baaad linux user, baaad ;p |
| 03:47.06 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 03:47.07 | larrikin | disclaimer: that would violate some law or other .. so I wouldn't actually do it :) |
| 03:47.33 | heh_v_water | larrikin, funny, this machine is deeply embedded behind a NAT gateway on a university network that spans the state |
| 03:47.46 | simonrvn | who's disclaimer? my tab complete doesn't match anything like that |
| 03:47.50 | heh_v_water | finding it would be hard as hell |
| 03:47.55 | larrikin | bah |
| 03:49.03 | larrikin | heh_v_water: http://www.last.fm/music/1200+Techniques/_/Hard+As+Hell |
| 03:49.08 | simonrvn | tee hee hee |
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| 03:50.35 | heh_v_water | my boss went on a two week vacation and while she was gone i debianized the campus we're on to do things she couldn't even fathom ;) |
| 03:51.15 | bws42 | and when you're gone? |
| 03:51.27 | heh_v_water | gues they better not get rid of me huh |
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| 03:52.15 | bws42 | yeah well people move on |
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| 03:53.09 | heh_v_water | yes and this job is only temp until next year, naw I am student, they let me toss my own things into the mix to test as long as I don't wreck havok on the network, when I am gone, some other student can do something else if need be. I do document my work for them tho |
| 03:54.28 | bws42 | I had to build a router for the house I was living in because splitting a dsl connection 20+ ways via a store bought netgear router doesn't work very well |
| 03:54.42 | stoned | lol, I just read, "they let me toss my own salad" |
| 03:54.48 | stoned | how/why, I'll never know |
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| 03:54.52 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 03:54.55 | bws42 | and it works great, and requires very little maintenance... for now |
| 03:55.15 | bws42 | but I don't know what they'll do if anything goes wrong, though I'm guessing they'll call me |
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| 03:56.04 | heh_v_water | bws42, when ya leave throw the netgear crap back on there :) |
| 03:56.09 | CompWizrd | stoned: now that's flexibility |
| 03:56.43 | bws42 | heh_v_water nah the netgear actually stopped routing, it became a switch |
| 03:56.44 | stoned | indeed |
| 03:57.29 | heh_v_water | I have been relentless in getting the shcool to offer Linux courses, it looks like they are going to add at least 2 classes and if I have my way i will be teaching them |
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| 03:58.37 | bws42 | man that's annoying |
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| 03:59.39 | heh_v_water | hey in Etch, kate doesn't work like it used to, before it would open all my docs in the same instance but now it opens a new instance per doc, I must be missing a preference somewhere |
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| 04:16.55 | DaveLib | hello i am running sarge using as my main browser firefox from there which is firefox 1.0.4 in order to add a firefox extension i want i need to be at least firefox 1.5 which is not in sarge in etch tho |
| 04:17.09 | DaveLib | what is the best way to get firefox 1.5 into sarge ? |
| 04:18.04 | DaveLib | etch has firefox 1.5 and i found at the backports site binary backprots from etch to sid of the etch packages i need for firefox |
| 04:18.22 | DaveLib | so i thought i would try a binary backport |
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| 04:21.05 | lunitik | DaveLib: yes... backports.org is maintained by DD's... so is your best option... |
| 04:21.43 | anibal | DaveLib, http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox/ |
| 04:21.56 | lunitik | heh_v_water: you're not being very specific... its likely simply a change from 3.4.x to 3.5.x though |
| 04:22.47 | heh_v_water | lunitik, yah not a big deal, I'm used to things changing, eventually I'll find my answer |
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| 04:23.23 | lunitik | heh_v_water: for what its worth... in sid, all documents are listed in the "Documents" side pane |
| 04:23.29 | DaveLib | thanks anibal checking .... |
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| 04:23.57 | lunitik | heh_v_water: maybe you're using different sessions per doc or something? |
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| 04:24.45 | heh_v_water | lunitik, well when it asked me the first time after the upgrade I told it to use session 0 always but maybe I was wrong there.. |
| 04:25.27 | lunitik | heh_v_water: when using Kate... you click Open Session, or New Session? |
| 04:26.07 | deadcat | how do i make 2 routes with route? one internet. one to talk to my other LAN |
| 04:26.15 | heh_v_water | lunitik, I usually don't open kate that way, it opens all docs for editing from gftp and konqueror |
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| 04:28.06 | DaveLib | so i am going to try a binary etch to sarge backport from backports.org but before i do i wanted to check in this channel the steps i planned to make sure i dont have mistakes |
| 04:28.19 | DaveLib | sarge has package mozilla-firefox |
| 04:28.37 | lunitik | !tell DaveLib about backports |
| 04:28.45 | DaveLib | etch has packages mozilla-firefox and another package: firefox |
| 04:28.52 | heh_v_water | deadcat, one route (default gateway) will be 0.0.0.0 to your web router's inside interface IP address, can do other route via local interface 192.168.x.x via eth1 say.. just off the top of my head |
| 04:28.53 | lunitik | ahh... wrong one |
| 04:29.04 | lunitik | !tell DaveLib about bpo |
| 04:29.23 | lunitik | DaveLib: that lists a link stating "Instructions"... read it |
| 04:29.52 | lunitik | DaveLib: 'firefox' is the package you want... mozilla-firefox is the old package for firefox |
| 04:30.05 | DaveLib | yes thanks lunitik i read that |
| 04:30.15 | DaveLib | ie "instructions" |
| 04:30.48 | DaveLib | the etch documentation said for mozilla-firefox that it was there to help upgrades over the name change |
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| 04:31.13 | lunitik | DaveLib: yes... see my last comment |
| 04:31.34 | DaveLib | the etch docu for mozilla-firefox said once package firefox was installed mozilla-firefox could be purged |
| 04:31.38 | deadcat | heh_v_water: i know.. thats why i ask for the command.. |
| 04:31.46 | lunitik | DaveLib: umm, yes |
| 04:31.59 | lunitik | DaveLib: I'm not sure where your confusion lies? |
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| 04:32.08 | DaveLib | so since i have an old mozilla-firefox installed from sarge should i first backport the etch mozilla-firefox |
| 04:32.16 | heh_v_water | deadcat, man route (IE route add blah blah) |
| 04:32.30 | DaveLib | ie in order to clean out the old installation |
| 04:32.33 | is_null | hello everybody, anybody knows what i am supposed to do if i did : rm -rf /dev ? please :) |
| 04:32.39 | deadcat | heh_v_water: i know. i cant seem to find the options |
| 04:32.40 | Dwonis | heh_v_water: ewww... Install iproute2 and use "ip route" |
| 04:32.42 | lunitik | DaveLib: etch's mozilla-firefox package depends firefox... so no real point... |
| 04:33.09 | heh_v_water | Dwonis, thats what I use but that's not what deadcat asked ;) |
| 04:33.12 | DaveLib | ok so i can just immed do a backport of etch firefox to sarge? |
| 04:33.23 | hardbop200 | is_null: reinstall :) |
| 04:33.25 | lunitik | DaveLib: its for upgrade purposes... so if you did 'apt-get upgrade' you'd get the firefox package via mozilla-firefox |
| 04:33.27 | Dwonis | is_null: it depends |
| 04:33.30 | Dwonis | is_null: are you using udev? |
| 04:34.22 | is_null | i beleive i am, as locte returns a few files |
| 04:34.29 | DaveLib | but i only want to upgrade firefox to etch i want most of the rest of my sarge installation to stay sarge |
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| 04:34.53 | linux3 | anyone know if ftp.us.debian.org is down |
| 04:35.02 | linux3 | i can't get anything to install with apt-get |
| 04:35.04 | linux3 | it just lags |
| 04:35.06 | is_null | DaveLib: i think you need to manually download and install the correct package you need |
| 04:35.10 | DaveLib | like: if i put backports high in apt-preferences and then do upgrade wont it upgrade tons of stuff? |
| 04:35.12 | is_null | *locate |
| 04:35.16 | Dwonis | is_null: does "grep '/dev tmpfs' /proc/mounts" return anything? |
| 04:35.35 | is_null | Dwonis: ah, it doesnt |
| 04:35.44 | lunitik | DaveLib: follow the instructions, give priority to the mozilla-firefox package in backports ... the end... you're over thinking things |
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| 04:36.10 | linux3 | wow |
| 04:36.13 | is_null | maybe i could try to boot a live cd, mount -o bind /dev /mnt/system_to_restore ? |
| 04:36.17 | Dwonis | is_null: Personally, I'd copy (using rsync -a) the /dev from another machine, then get udev working. |
| 04:36.20 | linux3 | ftp.us.debian.org just got horribly slow |
| 04:36.41 | lunitik | DaveLib: simple "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" would then give you firefox if done correctly... make sure its not trying to upgrade every-fucking-thing though |
| 04:36.42 | is_null | ookee Dwonis, thank you :) |
| 04:36.51 | DaveLib | lunitik: ok so in preferences i give priority to backports firefox only and then do an upgrade? |
| 04:37.18 | lunitik | linux3: everyone uses ftp.us.debian.org ... use a different mirror if you want decent speeds |
| 04:37.27 | is_null | lunitik: kids may see you talking about 'fucking', please avoid, thank you :) |
| 04:37.30 | lunitik | DaveLib: 'mozilla-firefox' ... yes |
| 04:37.51 | lunitik | is_null: kids under 13 shouldn't be on IRC |
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| 04:38.02 | DaveLib | but etch mozilla-firefox is the dummy package |
| 04:38.08 | lunitik | is_null: afaik, pg13 movies have swearing... I could be wrong though? |
| 04:38.12 | is_null | lunitik: i mean my kids |
| 04:38.22 | dabreegster | lunitik: Hahah. I started with Debian at 12... |
| 04:38.27 | lunitik | DaveLib: yes, a dummy package depending firefox |
| 04:38.35 | lunitik | DaveLib: just do it... |
| 04:38.45 | lunitik | is_null: /ignore is neat |
| 04:38.46 | DaveLib | ahh ok and that will be enough |
| 04:39.08 | lunitik | DaveLib: yes |
| 04:39.15 | DaveLib | ok thanks lunitik i am going to try that now |
| 04:39.54 | lunitik | DaveLib: remember to give the rest of backports a negative priority... else it could fuck up your system somewhat |
| 04:40.15 | lunitik | (nothing major, just likely things you don't want) |
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| 04:40.46 | lunitik | If you do want everything from backports, you'd do well to simply dist-upgrade to etch... |
| 04:41.30 | podadan | hi guys |
| 04:41.37 | lunitik | !hi podadan |
| 04:41.39 | podadan | to install apache on sarge |
| 04:41.46 | lunitik | !talk ? |
| 04:41.46 | dpkg | i heard talk is cheap because supply always exceeds demand. |
| 04:41.49 | podadan | should I creat a user |
| 04:41.54 | lunitik | meh... stupid bot |
| 04:42.12 | lunitik | podadan: the post-inst script creates a new user |
| 04:42.25 | lunitik | uhh... group* |
| 04:42.33 | lunitik | podadan: just put users in that group |
| 04:43.07 | podadan | it mean that apache will be run by a special user different than root |
| 04:43.07 | podadan | N |
| 04:43.09 | podadan | ? |
| 04:43.53 | lunitik | podadan: apache is owned by root... users you want to do things with your web server should be put in the group apache created |
| 04:44.13 | podadan | OK I got it thx |
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| 04:46.20 | podadan | BTW post-inst is run automaticly |
| 04:46.29 | podadan | or should I run it? |
| 04:46.29 | lunitik | podadan: yes |
| 04:46.41 | lunitik | podadan: its part of what happens when you install a .deb |
| 04:47.01 | podadan | OK sory I'm a real beginer |
| 04:47.02 | lunitik | podadan: usually you get a pretty ncurses interface during the post-inst stage ;) |
| 04:47.36 | podadan | ncurses interface ? |
| 04:48.37 | dabreegster | Commandline GUI dialog boxes with whiptail. |
| 04:48.43 | dabreegster | Oxymorons, whoopee. |
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| 04:51.37 | poonj_ | hey guys...I'm trying to create some self signed x509 certificates. when I try to create my own CA using the command openssl req -x509 -days 3650 -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout caKey.pem -out caCert.pem, it doesn't create the directory ./demoCA |
| 04:51.45 | trajiks | I have a uncompiled version of a client, apparently I need to compile it or something to be able to use it. Am I supposed to do this in KDE or root prompt or what? Thanks in advance. |
| 04:51.48 | poonj_ | am I using the wrong command to create a CA file? |
| 04:52.01 | trajiks | client can be found here http://ojnk.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:52.47 | poonj_ | forget it.. |
| 04:52.48 | poonj_ | I got it |
| 04:53.56 | lunitik | trajiks: you just want a CLI instant messenger? tried centericq? (it supports MSN, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo etc) |
| 04:54.18 | lunitik | trajiks: I'd be willing to guess you'd prefer something like Kopete or Gaim though |
| 04:54.40 | lunitik | (mainly due to you not knowing how to compile things...) |
| 04:55.29 | trajiks | well actually lunitik I really like the interface |
| 04:55.36 | trajiks | yea, I am really new to linux |
| 04:55.56 | trajiks | I am learning attempting to learn it as my friend said that debian is a good learning distro |
| 04:56.51 | dabreegster | trajiks: Console instant messager? bitlbee! It's an IRC server that talks to AIM, Yahoo, ICQ, etc. |
| 04:57.30 | trajiks | does it look similiar to that then dabreegster? the client listed above |
| 04:57.42 | trajiks | i'll google some screen shots |
| 04:58.16 | dabreegster | trajiks: You use bitlbee like you would any IRC server. |
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| 04:58.36 | dabreegster | trajiks: You use your current IRC client, connect to localhost or a public server, and talk to AIM/Yahoo/etc people through a channel. |
| 04:58.37 | lunitik | trajiks: ojnk looks like a mediocre ncurses interface... centericq is simular... |
| 04:58.53 | is_null | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.59 | lunitik | dabreegster: I don't think he wants an ircd |
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| 04:59.33 | dabreegster | lunitik: Well, if he likes his current IRC client and its console... |
| 04:59.48 | trajiks | yea actually I do need an irc client anyways, for some reason the client that came default with kde doesn't allow me to type to channel |
| 04:59.55 | trajiks | which is why I am on windoze right now |
| 05:00.08 | eggzeck | irssi |
| 05:00.13 | predder | which client is that trajiks? |
| 05:00.25 | trajiks | that i am currently on, nnscript |
| 05:00.41 | lunitik | trajiks: Konversation ... Ksirc is a joke |
| 05:00.41 | predder | KSirc? Did you try xchat? |
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| 05:00.42 | lunitik | Konversation > XChat 8) |
| 05:00.54 | lunitik | Especially in a KDE environment |
| 05:00.56 | eggzeck | irssi > * |
| 05:01.10 | dabreegster | trajiks: irssi + bitlbee is awesome. It can't do some things yet, like file transfers, but oh well. |
| 05:01.13 | trajiks | well, as long as i don't have to compile anything at this point in time I don't really care which client it is, i just need some learning tools/ best gui |
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| 05:01.40 | is_null | weechat is great :) |
| 05:01.50 | lunitik | trajiks: apt-get install konversation ... its nice, and will fit in nice with kde |
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| 05:03.09 | trajiks | I will try all take a look at all the clients, maybe someday I can do compiling ;x thanks again for the help. be are be hopefully to tell the good news |
| 05:03.29 | lunitik | eggzeck: irssi is nice if you know your way around it... otherwise its generally overkill |
| 05:03.46 | predder | lunitik, I just installed it, wouldnt connect to freenode :S |
| 05:04.07 | eggzeck | lunitik: Yeah, irssi isn't for the new ones. |
| 05:04.11 | lunitik | predder: irssi -c irc.freenode.net ... doesn't work? |
| 05:04.26 | dabreegster | irssi is not difficult at all. |
| 05:04.35 | predder | I installed konversation |
| 05:04.43 | dabreegster | You pretty much need to know /connect and alt+number to use it. |
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| 05:04.51 | predder | oh well, I'm happy with xchat for now :P |
| 05:04.55 | lunitik | dabreegster: its certainly not targetted at new Windows converts |
| 05:05.13 | dabreegster | lunitik: Meh, suppose not. |
| 05:05.13 | lunitik | predder: umm... I'm on freenode via konversation... what does it say went wrong? |
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| 05:10.35 | Dwonis | !start an irc client war |
| 05:10.37 | lunitik | predder: either way though... both are based on the same interface... |
| 05:11.10 | dpkg | telnet hostname 6667 is crap |
| 05:11.25 | Dwonis | wow, that was somethat laggy... |
| 05:11.30 | Dwonis | !test |
| 05:11.33 | dpkg | Yes, dwonis, you're still online. |
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| 05:15.14 | krinns | hi all |
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| 05:15.29 | krinns | i want a script to run on system startup |
| 05:15.33 | krinns | nay idea what to do |
| 05:16.00 | dabreegster | Put it in /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d |
| 05:16.06 | DaveLib | lunitik: thanks for your help i just did the backport and i have the new firefox 1.5 running |
| 05:16.24 | lunitik | DaveLib: you ended up only upgrading Firefox? |
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| 05:17.05 | DaveLib | well i tried the upgrade command and it said it was holding back package mozilla-firefox |
| 05:17.30 | DaveLib | the problem it had was mozilla-firefox depended on package firefox |
| 05:17.38 | DaveLib | so i cancelled the upgrade |
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| 05:18.48 | DaveLib | and i did apt-get -t sarge-backports install firefox |
| 05:18.50 | rhalff | where is mod_proxy for apache2 ? |
| 05:19.14 | rhalff | me only sees libapache2-mod-proxy-html ? |
| 05:19.14 | krinns | at what runlevels |
| 05:19.15 | DaveLib | that removed mozilla-firefox and installed the backported firefox and gave me firefox 1.5 :) |
| 05:19.22 | krinns | dabregster |
| 05:19.41 | dabreegster | krinns: 2 is usual for system startup stuff that isn't essentail hardware and basic stuff. |
| 05:19.46 | lunitik | krinns: Debian only uses runlevel 2 |
| 05:19.47 | DaveLib | so i think i see what they were doing |
| 05:19.52 | podadan | /etc/bash.bashrc is the setting for all user |
| 05:19.54 | podadan | ? |
| 05:20.04 | lunitik | krinns: umm... 012 and 6 ... but usually 2 |
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| 05:20.47 | DaveLib | they made an empty package with name mozilla-firefox same as from sarge and made that mozilla-firefox depend on etch package firefox |
| 05:20.48 | trajiks | hrm. |
| 05:20.53 | litage | why is /var/lib/mysql/mysql/ 0755 by default?: drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root 4096 2005-11-21 10:44 /var/lib/mysql/mysql |
| 05:21.22 | DaveLib | so when you upgrade from sarge to etch the new mozilla-firefox forces an upgrade on the old mozilla-firefox |
| 05:21.36 | DaveLib | and the depency forces firefox to get installed |
| 05:22.01 | trajiks | I attempted bittlbee but that has to be compiled as well. so konversation will do. what about for other im clients ? |
| 05:22.08 | DaveLib | so they are just trying to make the upgrade process install the new package |
| 05:23.02 | lunitik | trajiks: bitlbee is in the archive... its an ircd though, so not likely what you want |
| 05:23.21 | lunitik | !info bitlbee sarge |
| 05:23.28 | dpkg | bitlbee: (An IRC to other chat networks gateway), section net, is optional. Version: 0.92-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 308 kB, Installed size: 788 kB |
| 05:23.34 | rhalff | hm, ok then where is mod_proxy_balancer.. :) |
| 05:23.54 | lunitik | !find mod_proxy_balancer |
| 05:24.14 | trajiks | yea konversation seems great for irc but I was kind of needing an alternate for aim,yahoo,msn or what have you. since the default client is also causing issues due to the amount of "buddies" I have on aim. |
| 05:24.25 | lunitik | trajiks: Kopete |
| 05:24.29 | podadan | is /etc/bash.bashrc the setting for all users? |
| 05:24.43 | lunitik | podadan: users that don't have a .bashrc ... yes |
| 05:24.51 | Zerial | podadan, ~/.bashrc for each user |
| 05:24.53 | trajiks | lunitik: thanks |
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| 05:25.35 | lunitik | Zerial: as I said, if user lacks a .bashrc ... they are given bash.bashrc |
| 05:25.44 | rhalff | lunitik, ah it's in apache2.2 so not in stable probably :) |
| 05:26.16 | lunitik | !info apache2 |
| 05:26.18 | dpkg | apache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.55-4 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 05:26.28 | lunitik | No, not in sarge/stable |
| 05:26.40 | trajiks | actually lunitik kopete is what I have on kde that came with it, which logs me off due to rate limit or something with aim plugin. |
| 05:26.57 | lunitik | trajiks: I'm on AIM via Kopete atm |
| 05:27.00 | rhalff | !find unstable packages |
| 05:27.05 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'unstable packages' returned no results. |
| 05:27.08 | rhalff | !find apache2.2 |
| 05:27.12 | rhalff | pff |
| 05:27.20 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'apache2.2' returned no results. |
| 05:27.26 | podadan | Thx and who have priority |
| 05:27.29 | podadan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.35 | podadan | or /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 05:27.37 | podadan | ? |
| 05:27.41 | rhalff | !find apt unstable |
| 05:27.42 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'apt' (15 of 93): apt ;; apt-build ;; apt-cacher ;; apt-doc ;; apt-dpkg-ref ;; apt-file ;; apt-howto ;; apt-howto-ca ;; apt-howto-common ;; apt-howto-de ;; apt-howto-el ;; apt-howto-en ;; apt-howto-es ;; apt-howto-fr ;; apt-howto-it. |
| 05:27.43 | trajiks | lunitik: I think it might be because I have 70-100 users on the list. I might be mistaken though |
| 05:28.16 | lunitik | trajiks: #kopete |
| 05:28.26 | krinns | hai but when i am going for update-rc.d it ask me for update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> |
| 05:28.32 | lunitik | rhalff: /msg the bot |
| 05:28.48 | grendal_prime | i want to time my routers into a time server, is there one i can pull time from on the internet? |
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| 05:29.14 | lunitik | grendal_prime: apt-get install ntpdate |
| 05:29.14 | Cooner750 | Does Debian have a single CD image for a minimal install to get me going? |
| 05:29.33 | grendal_prime | really |
| 05:29.33 | lunitik | !tell Cooner750 about netinst |
| 05:29.36 | grendal_prime | no shit? |
| 05:29.54 | lunitik | grendal_prime: no shit... |
| 05:30.09 | grendal_prime | bitchen...config easy? |
| 05:30.35 | lunitik | grendal_prime: very |
| 05:30.47 | heh_v_water | grendal_prime, add internet server and go |
| 05:31.02 | lunitik | heh_v_water: it adds automagically... you just select one ;) |
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| 05:31.39 | heh_v_water | I don't recall my time server doing that for soem reason |
| 05:31.49 | lunitik | heh_v_water: you install ntpdate? |
| 05:31.57 | lunitik | heh_v_water: other ntp packages don't |
| 05:33.06 | lunitik | Also, could be something recent in the package I suppose... maybe sarge's ntpdate doesn't ask :/ |
| 05:33.36 | heh_v_water | i believe thats the one I used, i installed it like 2 years ago though, not sure if it asks when you upgrade |
| 05:33.50 | heh_v_water | ( ) Linux testing/unstable : 2.6.15-1-k7, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.0.0 | : KDE: 3.5.3 | : X-Chat v.2.6.4 |
| 05:34.22 | Cooner750 | After I install from the netinst disc, I can then install a window manager, like Xfce and all of the dependencies? |
| 05:34.34 | lunitik | Cooner750: yes |
| 05:34.51 | heh_v_water | I use sarge on production servers and testing for learning/preparing for upgrades |
| 05:34.55 | lunitik | Cooner750: pick "manual package selection" though... the desktop selection installs gnome AND kde :/ |
| 05:35.24 | Cooner750 | I prefer either Gnome or Xfce, either works. Is Xfce located in any of the default repositories? |
| 05:35.34 | lunitik | Cooner750: yes |
| 05:35.57 | lunitik | Cooner750: 4.4.0-beta1 is in Testing/Unstable |
| 05:38.22 | Cooner750 | server hiccup.. |
| 05:38.22 | lunitik | Cooner750: pretty much, if its open source, and worth a damn, its in debian |
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| 05:38.22 | Cooner750 | I was using Ubuntu for a while but I decided I dont need half the stuff it comes with so I decided to try starting with just Debian itself |
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| 05:38.52 | lunitik | Cooner750: yeah... Ubuntu forces a pretty bloated system on everyone... |
| 05:38.52 | rhalff | anyone know a repos for apache2.2 ? |
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| 05:39.05 | lunitik | rhalff: try www.apt-get.org ... if you don't find it there, it likely doesn't exist in .deb form |
| 05:39.31 | rhalff | lunitik, ok good tip, thanks :) |
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| 05:41.33 | seeds | just upgraded to testing from sarge. works fine |
| 05:41.55 | rhalff | hm ok great nobody runs 2.2, guess debian is more targeted against desktop users :p |
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| 05:42.21 | Cooner750 | I plan on this order: Debian itself, necessary packages, Window manager - preferably Xfce or Gnome + dependencies, then server stuff, Apache, PHP, MySQL, and then finally stuff like Firefox and Gaim... |
| 05:42.27 | dabreegster | rhalff: Kernel 2.2? Why? |
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| 05:43.09 | rhalff | dabreegster, apache 2.2 :) |
| 05:43.37 | dabreegster | rhalff: Oh. Whew. |
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| 05:45.26 | lunitik | Cooner750: neat plan... way overthought... but neat |
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| 05:57.37 | krenin | hey debian dudes |
| 05:58.25 | linux2 | sleep |
| 05:58.36 | linux2 | but need to do work before tomorrow |
| 05:58.40 | linux2 | don't want to get fired |
| 05:59.06 | seeds | k |
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| 06:00.31 | ice_1963 | ok get it right :0) |
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| 06:04.13 | Tassu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.17 | Tassu | ups |
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| 06:10.59 | tuv | i got getmail delivering old mail again! i have now two copies of some of the old messages in my mailbox!!! what could possibly cause that? |
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| 06:15.13 | lbjo | ho yall :) is debian able to use External USB harddisks? .. i want to use it for backups... |
| 06:15.26 | lbjo | USB2.0 |
| 06:15.43 | krinns | i need surce for apache in debian |
| 06:15.56 | krinns | i ahve kernel 2.6 |
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| 06:16.39 | tuv | lbjo, sure |
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| 06:17.24 | tuv | lbjo, if you have a decent desktop installed, it will pop up in a window on your desktop |
| 06:17.41 | tuv | lbjo, a window for each partition |
| 06:18.00 | lbjo | I have Debian Sarge Server.... Harddisk ext3 external usb hdd.. |
| 06:18.07 | lbjo | no X11 |
| 06:18.30 | tuv | lbjo, you'll probably need to mount it manually.. that's all |
| 06:18.39 | linux3 | anyone know how to get the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG to work? |
| 06:18.55 | tuv | linux2, tried ipw drivers? |
| 06:19.08 | linux3 | tuv, well intel has their own |
| 06:19.13 | linux3 | but i can't get them to compile |
| 06:19.29 | tuv | linux3, i think ipw2200 for 3945, doesn't it? |
| 06:19.39 | tuv | linux3, i think ipw2200 works for 3945, doesn't it? |
| 06:19.54 | linux3 | tuv, humm, i think i read that somewhere |
| 06:19.57 | linux3 | let me give it a try |
| 06:20.17 | tuv | linux3, you can install ipw2200 trivially using module-assistant |
| 06:20.33 | tuv | linux3, you'll just to install the firmware manually |
| 06:20.39 | linux3 | tuv, everytime i use m-a it never compiles correctly |
| 06:20.54 | tuv | linux3, do you do "prepare"? |
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| 06:21.14 | linux3 | tuv, yeah |
| 06:22.12 | tuv | linux3, are you sure ipw2200 is not included in your kernel? recent kernels have it as modules and you won't be able to compile another one easily (you still can though) |
| 06:22.13 | linux3 | ok im compiling with m-a |
| 06:23.05 | linux3 | where do you get the firmware |
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| 06:23.16 | tuv | ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php |
| 06:23.18 | dansushi | is there a command to change the UID of a user? |
| 06:23.25 | dansushi | or is there a command to see what the UID of a user is? |
| 06:23.30 | tuv | id? |
| 06:23.36 | dansushi | user id? |
| 06:23.42 | dansushi | usually 500 i think |
| 06:23.48 | dansushi | and then up from there |
| 06:23.56 | tuv | usually 1000 |
| 06:23.57 | linux3 | dansushi, it starts at 1000 in debian |
| 06:24.00 | dansushi | ooo |
| 06:24.04 | dansushi | hi linux3 |
| 06:24.09 | linux3 | gooday |
| 06:24.22 | dansushi | i think that may have caused the problem of why i can get into my user |
| 06:24.34 | dansushi | how can i change it? |
| 06:24.39 | dansushi | *can't get |
| 06:24.47 | tuv | edit /etc/passwd |
| 06:25.28 | dansushi | what do i do in there? |
| 06:25.59 | tuv | man 5 passwd |
| 06:26.56 | dansushi | hmm? |
| 06:27.07 | dansushi | oh |
| 06:27.08 | dansushi | i see |
| 06:27.11 | dansushi | read the manual |
| 06:27.40 | linux3 | dansushi, you probably have password shadowing on |
| 06:28.02 | dansushi | maybe |
| 06:29.10 | dansushi | i'm gonna restart |
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| 06:30.24 | cougar` | Anyone here good with iptables? |
| 06:30.35 | cougar` | Or just basic understanding of a log from iptables? |
| 06:30.40 | cougar` | or log entry I should say. |
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| 06:32.33 | linux3 | http://pastebin.ca/91023 |
| 06:32.37 | linux3 | can anyone help me with this |
| 06:32.42 | sbk | What's the url to the place that has a sort of matrix of the connectivity between the major backbone peers? |
| 06:32.45 | linux3 | it is a wireless card driver compilation error |
| 06:32.47 | linux3 | intel |
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| 06:34.37 | lbjo | tuv: does debian support usb harddisks EXT3? i have no X11 |
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| 06:34.54 | unix_infidel | lbjo: yes. |
| 06:35.02 | tuv | lbjo, sure. ext3 got nothing to do with X11 |
| 06:35.21 | lbjo | I just plug it in, and what then? |
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| 06:35.35 | tuv | linux3, did you check your current kernel for existing ipw2200 modules? |
| 06:35.57 | linux3 | tuv, its not an ipw2200 module that im compiling |
| 06:36.04 | linux3 | and the ipw2200 does not work |
| 06:36.08 | linux3 | with my card |
| 06:36.24 | tuv | linux3, what is your module then? |
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| 06:37.05 | linux3 | tuv, did you look at the error output? |
| 06:37.28 | tuv | looking now |
| 06:37.43 | seeds | can mplayer view apple trailers? |
| 06:38.10 | P-NuT | Hey guys, would anyone know how to route traffic from one network card to the next? eg. I have a wifi nic I want to use as an access point, but dont know how to route the traffic from ath0 (the card) to eth0 and out to the net. Any ideas? |
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| 06:38.16 | linux3 | tuv, well lets say the 2200 would work, how do i load the firmware? |
| 06:38.18 | linux3 | there is no manual |
| 06:38.26 | roxy_ | My sound doesn't work. When I call alsaconf it works again, but I have to do it after each reboot. What can I do to "save" the setting ? |
| 06:38.29 | P-NuT | seeds: try /join #mplayer |
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| 06:38.36 | seeds | ok |
| 06:38.55 | tuv | linux2, are you sure you're using the right version of gcc? it has to match the major version in /proc/version (kernel gcc version) |
| 06:39.01 | tuv | linux3, are you sure you're using the right version of gcc? it has to match the major version in /proc/version (kernel gcc version) |
| 06:39.04 | tuv | sorry linux2 |
| 06:39.16 | linux3 | roxy_, when you run also conf it says the modules its loading |
| 06:39.21 | tuv | P-NuT, mplayer can play anything :) |
| 06:39.27 | Hoxzer | where w32codecs dll files located? |
| 06:39.29 | linux3 | you could add them to /etc/modules.conf so they get loaded at boot |
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| 06:39.35 | P-NuT | tuv: seeds asked. |
| 06:39.36 | Hoxzer | where are actually |
| 06:39.50 | tuv | seeds, mplayer can run anything :) |
| 06:39.50 | linux3 | tuv, you know how to install the firmware though |
| 06:39.51 | linux3 | ? |
| 06:39.56 | P-NuT | tuv: and no it can't play DRM'd stuff. |
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| 06:40.10 | amphi | P-NuT: well, obviously |
| 06:40.15 | seeds | yes i did |
| 06:40.15 | AoA | can somebody send me file LOCALSTART.HTML ? |
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| 06:40.29 | amphi | P-NuT: don't accept drm crap |
| 06:40.34 | AoA | or PASTE ME somewhere |
| 06:40.35 | tuv | linux3, the firmware loads automatically. you just have to put it in the right place. read the module docs (usually /lib/firmware) |
| 06:40.50 | P-NuT | amphi: half the porn I download is DRM'd. :'( |
| 06:40.53 | basanta | debian mailing-list-subscription link broken |
| 06:40.54 | roxy_ | linux3: it unload then loads the driver |
| 06:41.17 | amphi | linux3: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware here (sarge) |
| 06:41.29 | linux3 | amphi, thanks |
| 06:41.51 | cougar` | How do I analyze what port an application is trying to contact? |
| 06:42.49 | roxy_ | linux3: apparently alsaconf rewrote /etc/modules.conf |
| 06:43.06 | linux3 | FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 06:43.11 | roxy_ | linux3: ok, my mistake, I rephrase the question. |
| 06:43.15 | linux3 | that is all i get when i try to load ipw2200 |
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| 06:43.38 | linux3 | roxy_, it usually trys to unload, but on a boot there should be no need to |
| 06:43.53 | roxy_ | Each time there is a kernel update, I have to rerun alsaconf. How can I avoid it ? |
| 06:43.56 | amphi | linux3: look at /var/log/syslog |
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| 06:44.44 | amphi | P-NuT: complain to suppliers of the drm crap |
| 06:44.57 | linux3 | Jul 18 02:42:47 comp1 kernel: ipw2200: disagrees about version of symbol ieee80211_wx_set_encode |
| 06:45.01 | linux3 | have a bunch of stuff like that |
| 06:45.03 | P-NuT | I'm not complaining, I just rip out the DRM. |
| 06:45.03 | P-NuT | :-) |
| 06:45.23 | linux3 | roxy_, well you don't update your kernel that much so shouldn't be too much of a problem |
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| 06:45.59 | amphi | linux3: you built the module from source? |
| 06:46.09 | linux3 | amphi, yeah |
| 06:46.22 | linux3 | amphi, its the only way to do it |
| 06:46.32 | amphi | linux3: did you build the ieee80211 stuff too? |
| 06:46.37 | linux3 | amphi, yeah |
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| 06:47.01 | amphi | linux3: wrong version, perchance? |
| 06:47.39 | linux3 | amphi, of? |
| 06:47.52 | roxy_ | linux3: I am on unstable, but true it is not a big problem. More out of curiosity. |
| 06:48.08 | amphi | linux3: well, a version mismatch between ieee80211 and ipw2200 |
| 06:48.12 | linux3 | roxy_, o. im not sure what the answer is |
| 06:48.22 | AoA | can somebody send me file LOCALSTART.HTML, please ! |
| 06:48.22 | linux3 | amphi, don't think so. both are latest |
| 06:48.25 | roxy_ | linux3: are you using a debian kernel ? |
| 06:48.31 | linux3 | roxy_, yep |
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| 06:48.47 | amphi | linux3: oh - I'm still using ipw2200 1.0.4 here ;) |
| 06:49.06 | roxy_ | try a vanilla kernel, last time I had the same problem it worked, some header version problem. |
| 06:51.04 | cougar` | Okay: Need some help please. |
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| 06:51.15 | cougar` | How do I analyze what port an application is trying to contact? |
| 06:51.30 | streuner | netstat? |
| 06:52.05 | roxy_ | cougar`: from the client or the server ? |
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| 06:52.40 | cougar` | Okay... well, here's the scenario. I run an IP blocker, and I can specifiy what ports the IP Blocker can ignore. And for some reason, I opened all the port that developer has listed for this application, and still, it is blocking an IP. This application is America's Army. |
| 06:53.14 | cougar` | So, there is a port that America's Army is using and I don't know how to determine which port. |
| 06:53.31 | cougar` | Roxy: Well, the Debian system is not playing America's Army. it's a machine on my LAN. |
| 06:53.44 | cougar` | All connections go thru Debian system tho |
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| 06:55.04 | roxy_ | cougar`: did you try tcpdump ? maybe a bit heavy for the task. |
| 06:55.05 | cougar` | Will netstat be able to show me |
| 06:55.30 | cougar` | Well Roxy, yeah, that would be a bit over my head. |
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| 06:55.54 | roxy_ | cougar`: well if there is connection between server and client netstat would do the job |
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| 06:56.41 | cougar` | Roxy: Well the IP blocker is preventing the connection, but not the attempt. I just want to see what port is being attempted |
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| 06:58.31 | roxy_ | cougar`: I am not sure netstat can show it if there is no connection. You could stop the IP blocker then see which port is using AA |
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| 06:59.07 | seeds | got the mplayer plugin for apple trailers |
| 07:00.57 | etrask | if I have etch installed now, in testing stage, and i regularly update it with apt, will it be the same as etch stable when it's released? |
| 07:01.16 | RvGaTe | morning all |
| 07:02.10 | seeds | morning |
| 07:02.56 | Hoxzer | seeds: :) |
| 07:03.14 | seeds | hey Hoxzer |
| 07:03.20 | Hoxzer | hi |
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| 07:05.01 | RvGaTe | so, what you all doing? |
| 07:06.09 | seeds | playing with etch |
| 07:06.16 | Hoxzer | well actually ... I'm thinking about "how can I get h264 films to run in xine" |
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| 07:06.47 | AstralHead | drinking a coke before i repair my car ;D |
| 07:06.53 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 07:06.58 | RvGaTe | i just arived at work |
| 07:07.11 | RvGaTe | first thing i do: connect openvpn, open xchat |
| 07:07.14 | AstralHead | got 4 hours left till i need to go to work |
| 07:07.14 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 07:07.54 | seeds | got 6 hours till work |
| 07:07.56 | RvGaTe | AstralHead, so, you broke your car huh ? |
| 07:08.05 | RvGaTe | what did you do |
| 07:08.15 | AstralHead | RvGaTe: no :) i bought a new one some days ago .. the left back door is bent .. |
| 07:08.28 | AstralHead | i would like it look even more straight that it does at the moment |
| 07:08.45 | RvGaTe | hehe |
| 07:08.52 | RvGaTe | what kind of car is it? (pictures) |
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| 07:09.00 | AstralHead | www.lameserver.de/audi/ |
| 07:09.04 | AstralHead | there it is |
| 07:09.05 | AstralHead | ;D |
| 07:09.46 | RvGaTe | cant see the bend really |
| 07:09.53 | AstralHead | sec |
| 07:09.57 | RvGaTe | oh wait |
| 07:09.58 | RvGaTe | got it |
| 07:10.01 | AstralHead | ok :) |
| 07:10.08 | RvGaTe | tiny bend that is.. |
| 07:10.20 | AstralHead | its not that bad .. but its not nice ;) |
| 07:10.25 | RvGaTe | nope |
| 07:10.29 | linux3 | ok i got it to compile |
| 07:10.34 | linux3 | but how the hell do i load the module |
| 07:10.39 | linux3 | the install stuff says... |
| 07:10.44 | AstralHead | which module? |
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| 07:10.58 | RvGaTe | but at least you got a big trunk for all the l33t bang-boom-bass aquipment :D |
| 07:11.01 | linux3 | iwp3945 |
| 07:11.11 | AstralHead | RvGaTe: thats for sure ;D |
| 07:11.25 | AstralHead | linux2: cant u just do "modprobe iwp3945"? |
| 07:12.06 | linux3 | o i got it |
| 07:12.16 | linux3 | AstralHead, nope, doesn't exist |
| 07:12.20 | linux3 | i ran ./load |
| 07:12.22 | AstralHead | hm weird |
| 07:12.22 | linux3 | some script they have |
| 07:12.24 | RvGaTe | anyway, i gotta go start doing some stuff :D |
| 07:12.27 | linux3 | im gussing it loads at boot |
| 07:12.32 | AstralHead | RvGaTe: have fun =) |
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| 07:14.35 | seeds | bye |
| 07:14.37 | tuv | i don't understand why getmail (getmail4) is delivering repeated old mail? it started doing this yesterday without upgrading it and still doing so after upgrade! |
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| 07:16.56 | anders_ | hello |
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| 07:20.36 | nevyn | is it just me or is /. incredibly broken? |
| 07:20.48 | anders_ | how do i stop: X? |
| 07:21.15 | tuv | anders_, /etc/init.d/gdm stop (if you're using gdm) |
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| 07:21.38 | anders_ | ok |
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| 07:22.28 | anders_ | what is the name of the orignial debian thing? |
| 07:22.35 | AstralHead | xdm kdm or gdm |
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| 07:22.39 | anders_ | its running automatlicy but i want kde to run automatlicy |
| 07:22.40 | AstralHead | depends on your choice |
| 07:22.43 | anders_ | AstralHead: no one of them.. |
| 07:22.47 | anders_ | the orginal when u installs |
| 07:22.49 | anders_ | debians UNIX |
| 07:23.00 | AstralHead | when u install debian (original) u dont got any x |
| 07:23.07 | AstralHead | atleast i got none ;D |
| 07:23.26 | Cooner750 | After I install the base minimal system using the netinst disc, I plan to install Xfce. I know apt-get install, but what is the package name for Xfce? |
| 07:23.32 | tuv | anders_, you can just go ahead and try them all :) |
| 07:23.43 | anders_ | ok |
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| 07:24.12 | AstralHead | anders_: by the way .. kdm = k display manager is the one coming with kde normally |
| 07:24.15 | tuv | Cooner750, try "apt-cache search --names-only xfce" to see a list |
| 07:24.48 | tuv | Cooner750, this one looks interesting: "xfce4 - meta-package for xfce4 dependencies" |
| 07:25.04 | Cooner750 | the packages.debian.org list displays XFce4 as stable, version 4.0.5-1, with quite a few dependencies |
| 07:25.18 | anders_ | i installed KDE manually |
| 07:25.22 | Cooner750 | I'm glad I have a cable internet connection.. |
| 07:25.25 | anders_ | but when i should reboot the orginal ugly debian started |
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| 07:25.40 | AstralHead | anders_: why not install it using apt? |
| 07:25.47 | anders_ | i did install kde by APT |
| 07:25.50 | Cooner750 | I'd also need a login manager installed aswell. GDM? |
| 07:25.52 | anders_ | it worked before i rebooted my COMPUTER |
| 07:25.55 | anders_ | as i said |
| 07:25.57 | AstralHead | dpkg-reconfigure kdm <--- this might help |
| 07:26.07 | AstralHead | then kdm will start and u can choose which enviroment to load |
| 07:26.32 | Cooner750 | You use GDM with Xfce, correct? |
| 07:26.37 | AstralHead | Cooner750: depends on what u like .. gdm kdm xdm |
| 07:26.56 | AstralHead | gdm is the gnome one .. but u can start any window manager from that |
| 07:27.00 | AstralHead | so gdm would work |
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| 07:27.28 | Cooner750 | Hmm. Trying to find the name of the GDM package. I know Xfce is XFce4 |
| 07:27.37 | AstralHead | and gdm is gdm |
| 07:27.37 | AstralHead | =) |
| 07:27.40 | AstralHead | apt-get install gdm |
| 07:27.55 | Cooner750 | *Writes down packages names for the "big install" tomorrow |
| 07:28.14 | AstralHead | my car needs me now .. seeya :D |
| 07:28.16 | AstralHead | <-- gone |
| 07:28.26 | Cooner750 | Does any configuration need to be done after Xfce and GDM is installed? |
| 07:28.31 | Cooner750 | or does it configure them itself? |
| 07:28.43 | AstralHead | normally it will start an configuration on installation |
| 07:28.52 | Cooner750 | Ok. I hope *crosses fingers* |
| 07:28.53 | AstralHead | if theres anything to configure u will be asked (i think) |
| 07:29.03 | Cooner750 | If not I assume I can run the reconfigure command |
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| 07:29.09 | AstralHead | else just run dpkg-reconfigure packagename |
| 07:29.14 | AstralHead | correct |
| 07:29.17 | anders_ | i still got problem to start X |
| 07:29.21 | AoA | can somebody send me file LOCALSTART.HTML, please ! |
| 07:29.22 | AstralHead | O_o |
| 07:29.23 | RvGaTe | <AstralHead> <-- gone |
| 07:29.24 | anders_ | AstralHead: its start a thing name: Debian |
| 07:29.24 | anders_ | ffs |
| 07:29.24 | Cooner750 | I've had to do that with xorg-xserver before when switching monitors |
| 07:29.31 | Cooner750 | the X blue screen of death |
| 07:29.34 | etrask | if I have a etch box right now, as testing, will it become the same as a stable system when etch becomes the stable distro? |
| 07:29.35 | AstralHead | RvGaTe: i suck .. i have to help ;D |
| 07:29.39 | etrask | (assuming of course i keep with the updates) |
| 07:29.42 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 07:29.50 | anders_ | AstralHead: how can i remove the debian X? |
| 07:29.50 | AstralHead | anders_: maybe it starts with a debian picture? |
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| 07:30.36 | anders_ | yes it does? but it WONT start |
| 07:30.38 | anders_ | it hang up |
| 07:30.39 | tuv | etrask, if you have "etch" in your sources.list and not "testing". yes |
| 07:30.43 | anders_ | it worked before reboot-.- |
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| 07:31.08 | AstralHead | anders_: get on a console and do "killall gdm-binary" "killall kdm" "killall gdm" |
| 07:31.13 | AstralHead | and start kdm then |
| 07:31.24 | AstralHead | narf .. and killall xdm |
| 07:31.30 | AstralHead | normally there should be no x anymore |
| 07:31.34 | AstralHead | and then start kdm |
| 07:31.37 | anders_ | AstralHead: can i reinstall all now |
| 07:31.39 | anders_ | w8 |
| 07:31.42 | AstralHead | u should get to kde this way .. |
| 07:31.50 | Cooner750 | Hopefully I should be able to run dpkg -reconfigure if it does not prompt for configuration during install. Are there any things it could ask that I would not know? |
| 07:31.54 | AstralHead | u dont need to reinstall it |
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| 07:32.25 | sid | Does if I have a domain...and I want to change the ip it points too...will that always take a day or so? or is it possible to have a domain point to a new ip within a few minutes? |
| 07:32.28 | AstralHead | Cooner750: keep cool :) its not that hard :) if u dont know what to answer choose the default answer works in most cases |
| 07:32.37 | bilss_ | hi |
| 07:32.47 | roxy_ | how can I have information about a package I can see with apt-cache search but not installed on my system ? |
| 07:32.52 | AstralHead | sid: for ipv6 it takes seconds ipv4 can take some hours .. depends on the nameservers |
| 07:32.57 | tuv | Cooner750, if you want to be asked about more stuff during install, run dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 07:33.13 | Cooner750 | Is it possible to install Bootsplash or similar on Debian so instead of a screen full of white text at boot it shows a splash like the 'Ubu's do? |
| 07:33.18 | anders_ | AstralHead: no ONE of them are running |
| 07:33.18 | anders_ | ffs |
| 07:33.32 | anders_ | its some other X that is running -.. |
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| 07:33.38 | AstralHead | Cooner750: grub and lilo are able to do a graphical login |
| 07:33.46 | tuv | roxy_, apt-cache show |
| 07:33.56 | bilss_ | just instaled etch form weelky distro page only one cd asked for mail server got ful gnome desktop / how to uninstallgnome? |
| 07:34.19 | AstralHead | anders_: then i cant help u at this point :( |
| 07:34.32 | anders_ | ok |
| 07:34.40 | anders_ | when i boot the netinstall |
| 07:34.45 | roxy_ | tuv: thanks |
| 07:34.49 | bilss_ | roxy_ how you din lng time no chat |
| 07:34.54 | anders_ | shall i press on desktopenviorment?0 |
| 07:35.06 | anders_ | when i do that all gdm/xdm/kdm installs |
| 07:35.13 | anders_ | can i remove gdm/xdm when i installed it? |
| 07:35.27 | AstralHead | apt-get remove xdm kdm gdm |
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| 07:35.38 | AstralHead | <-- gone .. seeya! |
| 07:35.52 | bilss_ | AstralHead are you tak |
| 07:35.57 | bilss_ | to me |
| 07:36.08 | roxy_ | bilss_: ?? |
| 07:36.28 | bilss_ | roxy_ foggoen already he |
| 07:36.40 | roxy_ | bilss_: ???? |
| 07:36.50 | anders_ | AstralHead: will all be deleted then? |
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| 07:36.56 | bilss_ | roxy- ok nevermind |
| 07:37.06 | ktwilight | anders, yes. |
| 07:37.06 | anders_ | (When i install debian, shall i press on desktopenviorment? |
| 07:37.14 | anders_ | ktwilight: no clues after removement? :P |
| 07:37.20 | ktwilight | removement? |
| 07:37.24 | anders_ | lol |
| 07:37.30 | anders_ | when i have apt-get removed everything |
| 07:37.39 | bilss_ | just instaled etch form weelky distro page only one cd asked for mail server got ful gnome desktop / how to uninstallgnome? |
| 07:37.40 | ktwilight | ?? you actually did apt-get remove *?? |
| 07:37.47 | anders_ | apt-get remove *? |
| 07:38.10 | anders_ | ktwilight: why does an ugly debian X starts? |
| 07:38.13 | anders_ | i dont want that one |
| 07:38.16 | liable | anders_: you can just install base, then whatever you want afterwards |
| 07:38.18 | anders_ | its dont evean work |
| 07:38.28 | anders_ | liable: exackly what i did |
| 07:38.32 | anders_ | but when i rebooted |
| 07:38.39 | Cooner750 | Anyone here run Folding@Home? |
| 07:38.44 | anders_ | it didnt start kde, it started an ugly debian thing |
| 07:38.47 | bilss_ | liable: still on holiday? |
| 07:39.09 | ktwilight | anders_,"an ugly debian thing", is it just alot of text with white fonts and black background? |
| 07:39.13 | anders_ | no |
| 07:39.19 | anders_ | its graphical X |
| 07:39.23 | anders_ | like unix |
| 07:39.26 | anders_ | very ugly :P |
| 07:39.34 | etrask | tuv: thanks [belated] |
| 07:39.45 | ktwilight | which desktop environnment did you install anders_ ? |
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| 07:39.49 | anders_ | kde.. |
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| 07:39.50 | tuv | i suppose this is gdm's standard greeter |
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| 07:40.05 | anders_ | it seems that DEBIANs X starts ffs |
| 07:40.24 | tuv | anders_, did you remove xdm, gdm,kdm? |
| 07:40.27 | anders_ | yes |
| 07:40.35 | anders_ | its no one of them!! |
| 07:40.54 | tuv | did you install anything manually? (not using apt-get) |
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| 07:41.04 | anders_ | When i installed debian i just did this |
| 07:41.06 | anders_ | apt-get install kde |
| 07:41.13 | anders_ | apt-get install x-window-blabla |
| 07:41.15 | anders_ | then nothing more |
| 07:41.28 | Cooner750 | I'm going to go to bed now. Tomorrow I will burn the Debian Netinst image and start installing |
| 07:41.29 | anders_ | then i wrote: startx then kde worked, but when i rebooted some ugly debian thing started and i cant run kde |
| 07:41.32 | bilss_ | just instaled etch form weelky distro page only one cd asked for mail server got ful gnome desktop / how to uninstallgnome? |
| 07:41.35 | tuv | anders_, and what do you want? |
| 07:41.39 | anders_ | fix my KDE+ |
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| 07:41.44 | anders_ | and remove the debian enviorment+ |
| 07:41.49 | Cooner750 | 'night all |
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| 07:42.17 | ktwilight | may his X is acting up? |
| 07:42.31 | anders_ | ktwilight: do u know what X iam talking about? |
| 07:42.47 | ktwilight | i meant xorg or xfree86 |
| 07:42.48 | tuv | anders_, then you can start by installing e.g. kdm. i can't think of anything that would present a graphical login screen except for those three. but any of them should override the current one |
| 07:43.02 | anders_ | how tuv ? |
| 07:43.23 | tuv | anders_, how to install kdm? apt-get install kdm |
| 07:43.32 | anders_ | but shall i dont write: apt-get install kde ??? |
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| 07:43.54 | tuv | anders_, you said you already did that, didn't you? |
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| 07:44.27 | anders_ | tuv: frombeginning |
| 07:44.31 | anders_ | if i reinstall debian |
| 07:44.32 | anders_ | how shall i write |
| 07:44.37 | anders_ | apt-get install kde |
| 07:44.41 | anders_ | apt-get install kdm ? |
| 07:44.42 | shaibn | hi :) when I do cat /proc/mdstat ; I see this: http://pastebin.ca/91059 ; can someone tell me what does the (S) on the right of hdh1[5](S) mean? |
| 07:44.47 | anders_ | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 07:44.48 | anders_ | that 3? |
| 07:45.15 | yeager | anders: apt-get install kde should be sufficiant |
| 07:45.15 | tuv | anders_, debian is everything altogether. you need a login manager, then install one: gdm, kdm, or xdm |
| 07:45.35 | anders_ | yeager: i did that before |
| 07:45.40 | Phuzion | if I go to an HTTP mirror, and I'm looking for the latest i386 CD ISO, do I go under current or 3.1 r2? |
| 07:45.41 | anders_ | but when irebooted it didnt start KDE |
| 07:45.42 | yeager | anders: and of course the login manager of your choice (gdm, kdm or xdm) |
| 07:45.48 | tuv | yeager, it's the other way around, kdm should be sufficient. kde is the superset here |
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| 07:46.07 | anders_ | yeager: tell me from the beginning how i shall write to install KDE and do so it starts automatlicy.. |
| 07:46.14 | yeager | tuv: yes, of course. kdm is depending on kde |
| 07:46.28 | tuv | anders_, did you install kdm? |
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| 07:46.37 | anders_ | take all from beginning |
| 07:46.41 | anders_ | tell me how i shall install |
| 07:46.46 | anders_ | to let it work |
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| 07:47.11 | yeager | anders: ok, lugnt. "apt-get install kdm x-window-system kde" |
| 07:47.11 | Eulex | yeager, no, kdm doesn't depend on kde |
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| 07:47.14 | SlayerXP | shaibn: hot Spare, maybe? |
| 07:47.33 | tuv | anders_, there is no beginning and end. you need kde, you install kde. you did install kde and are unhappy with the login manager? install your favorite login manager. |
| 07:47.47 | anders_ | I was installing like this before: apt-get install kde |
| 07:47.52 | anders_ | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 07:47.58 | anders_ | then i rebooted and its fucked |
| 07:48.00 | tuv | anders_, you're complaining about a login manager and saying you have none. did you try installing one? |
| 07:48.04 | anders_ | shall i write: apt-get install x-window-system kde ? |
| 07:48.12 | yeager | anders: maybe there is something wrong with the configuration of the x-server? |
| 07:48.18 | anders_ | yeager: priv :P |
| 07:48.18 | yeager | anders: yes |
| 07:48.19 | Eulex | anders_, installing x-window-system will bring you xdm. |
| 07:48.31 | etrask | does XDMCP use UDP packets? |
| 07:48.35 | shaibn | SlayerXP, maybe? |
| 07:48.46 | Eulex | yeager, umh, I don |
| 07:48.56 | SlayerXP | shaibn: well, is that partition marked as being a hot spare? |
| 07:49.03 | Eulex | 't think so -- what he described earlier sounds like xdm. |
| 07:49.07 | anders_ | Eulex: but i shall write: kde in the end right? |
| 07:49.11 | anders_ | then it installs kKD?E |
| 07:50.09 | Eulex | anders_, umh, the order you install things doesn't matter at all. neither does the order you put them in an apt-get install command |
| 07:51.02 | Eulex | anders_, try apt-get install kdm. then choose kdm as the default display manager when it asks about it. that should fix it. |
| 07:51.52 | Phuzion | if I go to an HTTP mirror, and I'm looking for the latest i386 CD ISO, do I go under current or 3.1 r2? |
| 07:52.29 | liable | either, should be the same |
| 07:52.46 | Phuzion | Alright, thanks |
| 07:54.06 | Phuzion | Then, I go into the iso-cd directory, and there are 14 different ISO's, what is the difference between them? |
| 07:54.26 | pdc303 | they contain packages, I believe |
| 07:54.54 | liable | Phuzion: if you have a reasonable connection, then just get the net-inst, or if you like, the first iso |
| 07:55.00 | pdc303 | you're as well just installing online if setup can activate your net connection |
| 07:55.04 | liable | Phuzion: check out the install guide |
| 07:55.08 | yeager | phuzion: debian is big. choose all the cd's or the dvd's |
| 07:55.11 | shaibn | SlayerXP, can you please look at this added output: http://pastebin.ca/91062 ? I've pasted the output of mdadm -Q --detail /dev/md0 |
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| 07:55.34 | pdc303 | Question: I just installed debian stable by netinst. I can start gdm or kdm and log in fine. However, the x-server seems to crash as soon as kde or gnome is started. gdm/kdm/XFree86 logs don't display any errors. What could be up? |
| 07:56.10 | Phuzion | yeager: I need a minimal installation, I'm gonna be using this as a local mailserver with an sshd, thats it |
| 07:56.22 | Eulex | pdc303, checked ~/.xsession-errors? |
| 07:56.25 | SlayerXP | shaibn: yes, and? |
| 07:56.28 | shaibn | SlayerXP, I guess that spare on the last line means that it is the spare device...? |
| 07:56.29 | yeager | pdc303: start X and see what it says |
| 07:56.37 | pdc303 | Eulex: thanks |
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| 07:56.50 | yeager | phuzion: if you run a x86 based system you will only need the first binary-i386 cd |
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| 07:57.06 | Eulex | Phuzion, you don't need to install everything. I'd suggest to use the net-installer, then you don't need to download all the 14 cds |
| 07:57.07 | Phuzion | Alright, thanks |
| 07:57.34 | Phuzion | I can't use the net-installer, I have to do routing for my systems to work |
| 07:58.03 | Phuzion | I have a slightly more advanced than normal network than most |
| 07:58.12 | liable | Phuzion: you can still install base and then mess around from the net-inst |
| 07:58.13 | pdc303 | Eulex: the only error is "gnome-smproxy: unable to connect to session manager" |
| 07:58.17 | SlayerXP | shaibn: why are you guessing? if you're not sure _find out_ |
| 07:58.40 | shaibn | SlayerXP, that's what I'm trying to do ... |
| 07:58.47 | Eulex | Phuzion, ok, that's probably solvable in some way (you can access a console while the installer is running) but using the first debian cd sounds like the easier way |
| 07:59.05 | Eulex | pdc303, hmm, ok. what exactly happens when you try to log into for example gnome? |
| 07:59.19 | Phuzion | Eulex: How exactly do I get to the console? |
| 07:59.20 | SlayerXP | shaibn: so, look at the information in front of you |
| 07:59.39 | liable | Phuzion: the net-inst has enough on it for a working base system, so if you are comfy with the console, you should be ok |
| 07:59.57 | Eulex | Phuzion, it's one of the virtual consoles - alt-f1, alt-f2, alt-f3 to switch to them |
| 08:00.05 | Phuzion | Alright, thanks |
| 08:00.22 | Eulex | one of them has a console that you can activate. another shows what the installer is currently doing. |
| 08:00.42 | liable | though you only get busybox during the install process |
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| 08:02.30 | pdc303 | Eulex: I enter my user/pass in the kdm login and hit Return. A splash image appears saying "Debian" - I presume this is the gnome splash. 1 second later, the screen turns grey and I am dumped back at the kdm login |
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| 08:03.16 | Dabian | How do I create users on my Courier mail server? |
| 08:03.42 | pdc303 | Eulex: it looks like X dies but as nothing is logged, I can't be sure |
| 08:04.13 | Eulex | pdc303, no, no, X doesn't die. not sure what the problem could be, though. may very well be caused by the error you found in .xsession-errors |
| 08:04.31 | pdc303 | will try logging in to kde and see what the error is |
| 08:04.35 | Dabian | !courier |
| 08:04.35 | dpkg | [courier] an mta, a pop3 and an imap server, all of which are pretty good. |
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| 08:04.49 | Dabian | Where can I get help for it? #Courier is sleeping .. |
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| 08:06.12 | liable | pdc303: stab in the dark, but tried the vesa driver? |
| 08:06.18 | pdc303 | I am using vesa |
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| 08:06.44 | pdc303 | I think I made progress. KDE dies at "initializing peripherals", and I am using 'void' mouse driver |
| 08:06.48 | pdc303 | maybe it's a mouse issue? |
| 08:07.13 | Eulex | that may very well be the problem |
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| 08:07.37 | Eulex | liable, umh, as X is starting and is showing gdm... why would the video driver be the problem? |
| 08:07.50 | cougar` | Anyone here care to help me upgrade my kernel to something higher than 2.6.14 ? |
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| 08:08.01 | cougar` | errr |
| 08:08.07 | Eulex | cougar`, sarge or testing/unstable? |
| 08:08.17 | Dabian | cougar`, INFECTED USER WARNING! |
| 08:08.23 | cougar` | I'm running 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 08:08.29 | cougar` | Hey Dabian |
| 08:08.29 | liable | Eulex: well, if x starts, why would the mouse be the problem? like i said, it was a stab in the dark.. :P |
| 08:08.34 | stoned | Dabian, ? |
| 08:08.38 | Eulex | liable, ya, true |
| 08:08.43 | cougar` | Eulex: I'm not sure bro :( |
| 08:08.54 | cougar` | Eulex: I believe it's unstable |
| 08:08.58 | Dabian | stoned: Look up cougar |
| 08:09.07 | pdc303 | does seem odd that kde and gnome with both freak out about my mouse, despite X being happy with it |
| 08:09.09 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 && apt-get install linux-image-whatever |
| 08:09.13 | cougar` | Dabian: Your 14, shoudn't you be in bed? |
| 08:09.32 | stoned | cougar`, there is no reason for that |
| 08:09.42 | stoned | Dabian, what are you talking about? |
| 08:09.51 | Dabian | cougar`, its 10:09 am here. ;-) |
| 08:09.55 | Eulex | apt-cache policy libc6|grep 500? |
| 08:10.03 | azeem_ | he's harassing people based on their irc nicks again, I guess |
| 08:10.05 | Dabian | stoned, SOrry .. I was talking about "eigar" .. got the name wrong. |
| 08:10.07 | cougar` | Eulex: I believe it is unstable |
| 08:10.08 | Dabian | sorry cougar` |
| 08:10.16 | cougar` | Eulex: How can I be sure? |
| 08:10.30 | stoned | azeem, good morning |
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| 08:10.52 | Dabian | cougar`, besides .. I am not 14 .. thats my girlfriend ... I'm forty two ... |
| 08:10.57 | Dabian | cougar`, just kidding :-) |
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| 08:11.03 | stoned | Dabian, cradle robber! |
| 08:11.08 | cougar` | I know you are bro |
| 08:11.12 | cougar` | I've seen your website |
| 08:11.16 | cougar` | Scary shit :P |
| 08:11.18 | cougar` | J/kin :P |
| 08:11.25 | Dabian | hehe :) |
| 08:11.25 | Eulex | cougar`, by just running the command I told you above, it will, well, in most cases, tell you your primary apt source. if you're using unstable, you should just be able to apt-get a newer kernel -- just apt-cache search linux-image and pick one you want |
| 08:11.36 | stoned | man |
| 08:11.46 | stoned | you can just cat /etc/apt/sources.list and just look at wtf yo uhave |
| 08:12.11 | Eulex | stoned, well, yes; that won't give you just one line to look at though. |
| 08:12.13 | cougar` | Eulex: I'm sorry, I did not see the command you wanted me to run |
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| 08:12.21 | cougar` | Eulex: apt-cache policy libc6|grep 500? <= ? |
| 08:12.39 | Eulex | cougar`, ya. |
| 08:13.02 | cougar` | Stoned: LOL I thought you were a bot :P |
| 08:13.09 | stoned | yes, I am |
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| 08:13.16 | stoned | I am a spam bot |
| 08:13.27 | cougar` | Eulex: 500 http://distro.ibiblio.org testing/main Packages |
| 08:13.35 | Dabian | I have a file called "sdb" ... its a copy of a harddisk with partitions .. anyway to mount those partitions? |
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| 08:13.36 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
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| 08:13.50 | sussudio | %do stoned |
| 08:13.54 | stoned | hmm |
| 08:13.56 | RvGaTe | stoned, ? |
| 08:14.02 | stoned | I forgot to include this bot on the wiki page |
| 08:14.07 | RvGaTe | stoned, i pm'ed you... |
| 08:14.07 | Dabian | %do mind |
| 08:14.13 | stoned | stew told me about it, but it wasn't there at that time |
| 08:14.18 | Dabian | %do anything |
| 08:14.27 | stoned | RvGaTe, im about to crash man |
| 08:14.35 | Dabian | %do sussudio |
| 08:14.36 | Eulex | cougar`, ok, thus, you're running testing. apt-cache search linux-image and pick one you want and that matches your cpu |
| 08:14.39 | RvGaTe | stoned, like usual |
| 08:14.47 | cougar` | thanks Eulex |
| 08:14.52 | Dabian | %test |
| 08:14.52 | badgers | Yes, dabian, you're still online. |
| 08:15.30 | RvGaTe | stoned, dont drive while ircing... |
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| 08:16.06 | cougar` | 2.6.15 looks to be the latest |
| 08:16.08 | linux3 | how do i connect to a wireless network |
| 08:16.13 | linux3 | i have been trying to |
| 08:16.15 | linux3 | but still nothing |
| 08:16.21 | stoned | heh |
| 08:16.31 | stoned | badgers, hi |
| 08:16.31 | badgers | bonjour |
| 08:16.35 | sussudio | linux3: 1) try running debian 2) keep away from the enter key |
| 08:17.07 | stoned | Wiki page updated |
| 08:17.09 | stoned | !dpkgbot |
| 08:17.09 | dpkg | well, dpkgbot is Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. |
| 08:17.37 | cougar` | Eulex: What is the different between the -1 and at the end of 2.6.15 ? I'm not sure which one to choose now. |
| 08:17.38 | Dabian | linux3, it is easy if you know how. |
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| 08:18.22 | stoned | sussudio, how often do you sync badgers with dpkg? |
| 08:18.28 | cougar` | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 - Linux kernel 2.6.15 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines *or* linux-image-686 - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines .... uname -a returns : Linux mercury 2.6.12-1-686 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:52:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <== Safe to say I should use 2.6.15-1 ? |
| 08:19.10 | azeem | cougar`: can you rephrase your question? |
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| 08:19.36 | sussudio | stoned: whenever dpkg breaks |
| 08:19.39 | azeem | linux-image-686 is a meta package depending on the latest 2.6 686 linux-image |
| 08:19.45 | cougar` | I'm not sure which kernel image I should get :( There seems to be 2 that match what I need. I just don't know the difference |
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| 08:19.58 | stoned | sussudio, there a few keys without values on dpkg, and I suspect on other bots too |
| 08:20.00 | cougar` | meta package? Please explain... |
| 08:20.09 | sussudio | eh? |
| 08:20.14 | stoned | sussudio, for example <based on debian>, <debian based> etc. |
| 08:20.15 | cougar` | If it's too hard to explain, forget about it. |
| 08:20.31 | cougar` | Azeem: Should I use 2.6.15-1 ? |
| 08:20.38 | Eulex | cougar`, linux-image-686 will give you the latest linux-image available for 686, and will automatically upgrade to the latest 686 kernel when you upgrade. in this case, it will install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 08:20.41 | azeem | cougar`: inspect the latter's Depends: |
| 08:20.51 | sussudio | since when is 2.6.15 in debian? |
| 08:20.54 | azeem | cougar`: it is an empty package which just depends on the latest |
| 08:21.14 | cougar` | Azeem oh okay. I understand now. Eulex: thanks for your explanation, cleared it up. |
| 08:21.20 | azeem | !+info linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 testing |
| 08:21.22 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 08:21.30 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: (Linux kernel 2.6.15 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.15-8 (etch), Packaged size: 15412 kB, Installed size: 44016 kB |
| 08:21.31 | Eulex | sussudio, since some time ago. but it's not in sarge, of course. |
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| 08:22.07 | sussudio | Eulex: kernel-source-2.6.8 seems to be the latest kernel in any dist |
| 08:22.17 | sussudio | %info kernel-source-2.6.15 |
| 08:22.31 | Eulex | sussudio, they're renamed to linux-source-* and linux-image-* |
| 08:22.32 | sussudio | *badgers* Package 'kernel-source-2.6.15' does not exist. |
| 08:22.39 | sussudio | Eulex: meh |
| 08:22.42 | Eulex | and linux-headers-* |
| 08:22.42 | cougar` | azeem: So: apt-get install linux-image-686? |
| 08:22.55 | Eulex | cougar`, whichever you like |
| 08:23.13 | cougar` | I don't understand... |
| 08:23.20 | cougar` | Like? I can only like what is available for my machine |
| 08:23.25 | sussudio | maybe 2.6.15 will actually compile... unlike 2.6.8 |
| 08:23.37 | azeem | cougar`: make a decision, you cannot break anything |
| 08:23.53 | Eulex | cougar`, if you would like your kernel automatically upgraded choose linux-image-686, if not, choose linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 08:24.35 | cougar` | okay here I go |
| 08:24.43 | cougar` | It's gettin' now |
| 08:24.45 | Eulex | automatically upgraded kernels can be a problem if you're compiling modules for some device which hasn't got a driver in-kernel |
| 08:24.50 | cougar` | Thanks Eulex and everyone else |
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| 08:25.07 | Eulex | yw :) |
| 08:25.24 | cougar` | Well I chose linux-image-686 |
| 08:25.30 | cougar` | WTF |
| 08:25.32 | cougar` | It's done? |
| 08:25.37 | Dabian | authmodulelist="authmysql authpam authuserdb" |
| 08:25.47 | azeem | cougar`: how should we know? |
| 08:25.50 | cougar` | Eulex: It's done! |
| 08:26.03 | Eulex | :) |
| 08:26.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have been asking this quite a bi but i cant quite get a reply. i search all over and i cant figure it out. it seems a simple question i dont know why i cant get an answer |
| 08:26.15 | cougar` | Eulex: Do I need to restart? |
| 08:26.15 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i need to know how to install KDE |
| 08:26.17 | Eulex | The_Ultimate_Sam, just ask |
| 08:26.32 | Eulex | cougar`, well, if you want to run the new kernel; yes |
| 08:26.39 | cougar` | Eulex: HEHE :P |
| 08:26.56 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: as root, type 'aptitude' |
| 08:26.57 | Eulex | cougar`, nothing hinders you from waiting a while before you switch, though |
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| 08:27.03 | cougar` | Eulex: Okay, last question/s ... it this new kernel going to ask me questions, like, so I need to hook a monitor up to my box ? |
| 08:27.08 | Guerin | The_Ultimate_Sam: select 'desktop' and you're go. |
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| 08:27.25 | Eulex | cougar`, no, I don't think it will. |
| 08:27.40 | cougar` | Eulex: I wanted nfq support bud |
| 08:27.46 | azeem | nfq? |
| 08:27.53 | Guerin | no fucking qlue |
| 08:28.00 | cougar` | Close |
| 08:28.01 | Eulex | cougar`, so it's a server? I'd at least have a monitor ready, in case the new kernel panics |
| 08:28.07 | cougar` | NFQUEUE |
| 08:28.07 | Dabian | Guerin, no glue? |
| 08:28.15 | Guerin | Dabian: no brue |
| 08:28.30 | cougar` | Eulex: Hmmm, if it panics, I'm in trouble right? |
| 08:28.31 | Dabian | Guerin, eat my .. nah .. thats a different movie .. |
| 08:28.35 | Eulex | cougar`, did you have to compile your own 2.6.12 kernel to get nfqueue support? |
| 08:28.48 | Eulex | cougar`, not really, just choose to boot the old kernel through grub |
| 08:29.04 | cougar` | No, NFqueue support is in Kernels >= 2.6.14 |
| 08:29.24 | cougar` | 2.6.12 did not have it |
| 08:29.34 | Eulex | cougar`, but yes, you'd prolly need a keyboard and monitor hooked up to it if the new kernel doesn't work. |
| 08:29.44 | cougar` | Eulex okay... I'll brb |
| 08:29.45 | Eulex | cougar`, I could check if the new kernels have it enabled by default |
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| 08:29.48 | cougar` | Wish me luck! |
| 08:29.56 | cougar` | Eulex: Okay. |
| 08:29.58 | cougar` | I'll wait |
| 08:30.04 | cougar` | I'm pretty sure it does |
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| 08:30.40 | Eulex | cougar`, yep it seems to have it, CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NFQUEUE=m and CONFIG_IP6_NF_TARGET_NFQUEUE=m |
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| 08:30.51 | cougar` | SAweet |
| 08:30.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ....sorry powerout |
| 08:30.54 | cougar` | Okay Eulex, wish me luck |
| 08:30.58 | cougar` | here I go! |
| 08:31.01 | cougar` | Thanks man! |
| 08:31.10 | Eulex | cougar`, yw, and good luck :) |
| 08:31.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | anyhow as i was saying i set up debian on my friends computer but it has gnome. and i want to replace gnome with KDE |
| 08:31.45 | Dabian | Guerin, I have a file that is a copy of a harddisk. Do you know how I can mount the partitions of this harddisk? |
| 08:31.50 | foRza | Has anyone got Java Swing to work with Debian? |
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| 08:31.51 | Eulex | !install kde |
| 08:31.51 | dpkg | it has been said that install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 08:31.54 | Eulex | !remove gnome |
| 08:31.55 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 08:31.59 | Eulex | The_Ultimate_Sam, ^^ |
| 08:32.01 | Dabian | foRza, yes. |
| 08:32.20 | foRza | Dabian: Nice, howto? :) |
| 08:32.35 | Eulex | Dabian, man losetup; man mount |
| 08:32.51 | Dabian | foRza, its no heat ... if you install java virtual machine - it includes swing. |
| 08:33.02 | Dabian | losetup |
| 08:33.05 | Dabian | thanx |
| 08:33.21 | tuv | foRza, if you're running testing or sid, install sun-java5-jre |
| 08:33.23 | Eulex | Dabian, you need to assign it to a loop device, with an offset to get to the right partition, then mount it |
| 08:33.28 | BladeRunner05 | I all, I'm installing the latest testin of debian onto a server with 2 disk sata in raid 1, But when I have to do the partition it see 2 disk, how can I config the raid ? |
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| 08:33.37 | The_Ultimate_Sam | sweet i hope it works |
| 08:33.50 | Dabian | Eulex, how do I find the offset? |
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| 08:34.03 | foRza | I've installed JRE, but I think the problem is setting the correct CLASSPATH |
| 08:34.18 | Dabian | foRza, : Thats a very common problem. |
| 08:34.35 | Eulex | Dabian, http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html |
| 08:34.44 | Dabian | foRza, try asking in ##java .. or rather, check the links in the topic. or do "~classpath" in the channel. |
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| 08:35.10 | foRza | Dabian: Ok, thanks |
| 08:35.13 | Dabian | Eulex, in other works .. I should connect the harddisk again, and copy each partion seperately? |
| 08:35.27 | Dabian | Eulex, (As in .. that would be easier) |
| 08:36.17 | Eulex | Dabian, well, yes, it would. I'm not sure how to calculate the offset of anything else but the first partition, but there are probably sources on the web that describe how to do it |
| 08:36.57 | Dabian | Eulex, my plan was to run qemu with it .. and that works .. but its darn slow, and its not online. :) |
| 08:37.11 | Dabian | Eulex, so in the end, I cannot access the files anyhow. |
| 08:37.38 | Eulex | Dabian, hehe |
| 08:37.40 | Sonderblade | is there some tool to generate a graph of package dependencies? |
| 08:38.03 | Dabian | Sonderblade, what do you mean by "graph"? |
| 08:38.53 | Sonderblade | Dabian: a visual representation |
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| 08:39.03 | Dabian | Sonderblade, like eyecandy? |
| 08:39.25 | Dabian | I am getting hungry |
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| 08:39.34 | Eulex | !feed Dabian |
| 08:39.44 | Dabian | hehehe |
| 08:40.08 | Tallu | I'm making pasta soon. :) |
| 08:40.08 | Sonderblade | Dabian: a graph is usually a 2dimensional plot of some data... |
| 08:40.29 | Dabian | Sonderblade, Not exactly eyecandy, aye? |
| 08:40.59 | Sonderblade | do you eat eyeballs? |
| 08:41.14 | Dabian | Sonderblade, not very often. |
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| 08:41.40 | cougar` | Aight |
| 08:41.43 | Dabian | Sonderblade, from shrimp or bird I might. |
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| 08:42.00 | Sonderblade | right, a graph is not that kind of eyecandy |
| 08:42.05 | cougar` | Eulex: I had to go grab the monitor and keyboard cause when I did shutdown -r now, it didn't restart :( |
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| 08:42.17 | cougar` | Eulex: But everything looks good now |
| 08:42.18 | Tallu | cougar`: i usually use poweroff |
| 08:42.19 | Eulex | cougar`, ow |
| 08:42.40 | Dabian | Sonderblade, I like birdbrain .. how about you? |
| 08:42.40 | Tallu | for some reason shutdown -r doesnt quite do the trick for me either |
| 08:42.46 | Eulex | cougar`, so, it booted properly? |
| 08:43.04 | Dabian | Sonderblade, (don't say .. "you are what you eat!") |
| 08:43.07 | Eulex | I use shutdown -hP now |
| 08:43.30 | cougar` | I'm nt sure if my machine ever restart when using shutdown -r now |
| 08:43.38 | cougar` | Eulex: rgr |
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| 08:43.56 | Dabian | cougar`, what about "shutdown -r later" ? |
| 08:44.05 | cougar` | I'll mess with moblock tomorrow |
| 08:44.11 | cougar` | Thanks everyone |
| 08:44.12 | cougar` | hehe Dabian |
| 08:44.17 | cougar` | 5 AM, DAMMIT! |
| 08:44.27 | cougar` | Anyone here use any IP Blockers? |
| 08:44.38 | azeem | cougar`: you're aware that 2.6.15 has two local root exploits? |
| 08:44.46 | azeem | I hope you don't have other users on that server |
| 08:44.56 | cougar` | Nope |
| 08:44.57 | Dabian | !feed me |
| 08:45.05 | azeem | Dabian: please /msg the bot |
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| 08:46.19 | anders_ | hello |
| 08:46.27 | cougar` | Azeem: Well now I'm nervous |
| 08:46.39 | liable | which kernel doesnt have exploits atm :P |
| 08:46.42 | cougar` | Should I have not installed 2.6.15 ? |
| 08:46.42 | anders_ | why wont my KDE start when i rebooted? :( |
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| 08:46.56 | streuner | cougar`: upgrade to the latest kernel |
| 08:46.57 | pdc303 | Eulex: nothing seems to have worked. Strangely though, kde is happy to start up in a vnc session. :\ |
| 08:47.03 | ktwilight | what does it say when it tries to start anders? |
| 08:47.10 | cougar` | Streuner: I thought I did |
| 08:47.15 | anders_ | ktwilight: its not kde that starts, a debian meny comes up |
| 08:47.20 | anders_ | but it WONT start, it just hangs up |
| 08:47.35 | azeem | cougar`: 2.6.12 is just as vulnerable, FWIW |
| 08:47.36 | streuner | cougar`: ok, roll your own then |
| 08:47.48 | cougar` | streuner : Only if I knew how. |
| 08:47.53 | streuner | cougar`: it should be in etch soon |
| 08:48.05 | Eulex | cougar`, 2.6.15 is the latest in testing; the latest released kernel is a 2.6.17 |
| 08:48.06 | ktwilight | anders_, tried startx? |
| 08:48.15 | cougar` | azeem: Well, I guess I can't worry about it cause well, I've been running 2.6.12 for a while now |
| 08:48.17 | Vasistha | sometimes my konsole gets into this mode where it doesn't respect newlines properly, and doesn't echo letters as I type them. Has anyone experienced this, and does anyone know how to fix it? |
| 08:48.18 | anders_ | how do i stop my current X? |
| 08:48.23 | anders_ | its not kdm/kde/xdm |
| 08:48.28 | anders_ | gm |
| 08:48.29 | anders_ | gdm |
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| 08:48.30 | azeem | anders_: ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 08:48.32 | streuner | cougar`: or try a kernel out of unstable |
| 08:48.35 | cougar` | Eulex: I can't use 2.6.17 right ? |
| 08:48.36 | ktwilight | ... |
| 08:48.47 | streuner | cougar`: some people said its possible |
| 08:48.50 | azeem | cougar`: what does your server serve? |
| 08:49.20 | anders_ | azeem: now i could coohse! :;9 |
| 08:49.23 | anders_ | :) |
| 08:49.24 | liable | the etch kernels havent been fixed yet? |
| 08:49.26 | cougar` | My server is my NTP Server for my LAN. It's also DHCP server as well as the router and firewall |
| 08:49.38 | streuner | liable: read changelog |
| 08:49.41 | Eulex | cougar`, yes, you can, you should just need to get a .deb from unstable: packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.17-1-686 |
| 08:50.08 | liable | streuner: i dont have etch, and i am not going to go to e web site to read one |
| 08:50.11 | cougar` | Eulex: How do I get a .deb? |
| 08:50.23 | Eulex | cougar`, download it from there. |
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| 08:50.55 | Eulex | cougar`, old != bad |
| 08:50.57 | azeem | it was pretty new compared to what you had running previously |
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| 08:51.12 | azeem | cougar`: the stable kernels have been fixed, btw |
| 08:51.19 | azeem | and they are at 2.6.8 |
| 08:51.21 | __ne2k | I'm using NFS root on an embedded system with DHCP for development. I've just built a new kernel and I now have a problem where the /etc/init.d/networking scripts are trying to reconfigure the eth0 interface, the server is returning a different IP address from the one the kernel level autoconfiguration got, and the NFS is getting screwed so booting fails. It used to be that the script would see that the interface had already been configured by the kern |
| 08:51.27 | cougar` | azeem: Will 2.6.17 be okay? |
| 08:51.36 | azeem | cougar`: yes |
| 08:51.43 | ktwilight | backport's kernel is also fixed, i hope. |
| 08:51.44 | cougar` | Azeem: neat |
| 08:51.44 | streuner | cougar`: -3 |
| 08:51.44 | azeem | cougar`: well, what do you mean "okay"? |
| 08:51.53 | azeem | cougar`: it won't have the security holes |
| 08:51.58 | cougar` | Okay |
| 08:52.11 | azeem | but it's not known to be super-stable (or unstable for that matter) |
| 08:52.35 | streuner | ktwilight: yes, nobse fixed it |
| 08:52.41 | k31th | guys i am adding 1500 users by ldap. However they want email address's differnt from there linux usernames... Is there any way to do this other than mainly assigning each address to each username in sendmail ? |
| 08:52.46 | azeem | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 |
| 08:52.49 | cougar` | Okay, I'm at the site, where id the .deb |
| 08:52.49 | anders_ | azeem: how do i save my X? |
| 08:52.50 | azeem | might be the better option |
| 08:52.50 | liable | why hasnt the etch ones been fixed? i thought etch had active security these days? |
| 08:52.54 | azeem | anders_: save? |
| 08:52.57 | anders_ | yes |
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| 08:52.58 | anders_ | :P |
| 08:53.06 | ma3x | how do I lookup the mailserver for a domain name? |
| 08:53.06 | anders_ | so i just launch kde automatlicy? |
| 08:53.06 | azeem | anders_: I don't understand what you mean |
| 08:53.23 | Eulex | ma3x, host -t MX domain |
| 08:53.29 | azeem | liable: they try to route most of it through unstable |
| 08:53.30 | AstralHead | ma3x: whois domain.com |
| 08:53.34 | AstralHead | try whois on a console |
| 08:53.34 | anders_ | azeem: u understand? |
| 08:53.37 | streuner | ma3x: telnet foo.com 25? |
| 08:53.42 | azeem | anders_: no |
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| 08:53.48 | anders_ | will kde start automatic? |
| 08:53.59 | anders_ | how do i fix so it starts automatlicy when i start the computer.. |
| 08:54.01 | azeem | anders_: without login? |
| 08:54.04 | anders_ | yees |
| 08:54.06 | azeem | no idea |
| 08:54.15 | anders_ | ok |
| 08:54.16 | anders_ | ill try |
| 08:54.16 | anders_ | brb |
| 08:54.17 | azeem | why do you want that? |
| 08:54.27 | AstralHead | as far as i know u can setup your login manager so u dont have to login anymore |
| 08:54.32 | liable | isnt there an autologin option for most dm's? |
| 08:54.45 | cougar` | 2.6.17 only available for 386... I need 686 |
| 08:55.02 | azeem | cougar`: there are 686 kernels as well |
| 08:55.03 | ma3x | how do I force postfix mail queue to send out? |
| 08:55.27 | AstralHead | in gnome u can go to "system tools" ---> "setup login screen" |
| 08:55.33 | AstralHead | or some like that (mine is german) |
| 08:55.42 | AstralHead | there u can choose which user is to be used .. without login |
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| 08:55.52 | streuner | ma3x: uhm, just /etc/init.d/postfix restart - it forces that too |
| 08:55.52 | AstralHead | i bet theres something like that in kde too |
| 08:56.24 | __ne2k | k31th: I think there is a mail aliases file |
| 08:56.26 | AstralHead | cougar`: why not get kernel source and build your own? |
| 08:56.36 | cougar` | I don't know how. |
| 08:56.42 | ma3x | streuner, it didn't send it |
| 08:56.43 | AstralHead | its not that hard to do |
| 08:56.48 | cougar` | But I got the 686 and 386 .deb file |
| 08:56.49 | k31th | __ne2k: yes there is but ill have to go thru every username ? |
| 08:57.02 | streuner | ma3x: hm, did you read /var/log/mail.log? |
| 08:57.18 | ma3x | streuner, yes nothing new |
| 08:57.21 | ma3x | just that it restarted it |
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| 08:57.29 | anders_ | whoho! ) |
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| 08:57.31 | anders_ | :) |
| 08:57.34 | __ne2k | k31th: how are you going to decide what alias is assigned to what username? |
| 08:57.38 | AstralHead | cougar`: first time i made a kernel myself it took me about 2 hours to do it .. now i can do it in about 1 hour .. but it runs specified for your machine then .. its a nice thing to have ;D |
| 08:57.59 | ktwilight | ah, good to know streuner :) |
| 08:58.00 | anders_ | anyone here that is good to install nVIDIA for debian? |
| 08:58.10 | Eulex | !nvidia one-liner |
| 08:58.11 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 08:58.26 | roxy_ | I got a harddrive to do my backup. It is just for my home machine. I don't really care if I loose up to a week of data and it doesn't really matter how fast I can recover. What are my options ? |
| 08:58.28 | streuner | ktwilight: read its changelog for the latest fixes now. |
| 08:58.38 | anders_ | Eulex: i have tried to fix this in 1 day now, i still cant, i need help from a pro! :)0 |
| 08:58.54 | ktwilight | i'm guessing the changelog is somewhere in /usr/docs? |
| 08:59.06 | Eulex | anders_, sorry, I'm not a pro. and if you need a pro, you probably need to pay for it. |
| 08:59.20 | anders_ | =/ orelse i user winxp |
| 08:59.21 | anders_ | :P |
| 08:59.50 | streuner | ktwilight: as always /usr/share/doc/<package> and its online |
| 08:59.55 | cougar` | Okay, rebooting again |
| 09:00.02 | cougar` | shutdown -rP now? |
| 09:00.08 | ktwilight | oh yea, that's right. thanks :) |
| 09:00.13 | Eulex | cougar`, why not just run reboot? |
| 09:00.28 | cougar` | Well |
| 09:00.33 | cougar` | Cause I like new |
| 09:00.43 | cougar` | and well, lot of stuff I still need to learn |
| 09:00.57 | cougar` | I dn't use Debian as a primary achine so I lack common knolwedge :( |
| 09:01.02 | ma3x | how do I resend the queue in postfix? |
| 09:01.05 | streuner | ma3x: well, there is #postfix |
| 09:01.09 | cougar` | Eulex: BRB |
| 09:01.21 | roxy_ | anyone using backup-manager on home machine ? I'd like to know how easy it is to set up. |
| 09:01.30 | streuner | ma3x: postfix.org has some very good documentation |
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| 09:01.36 | streuner | ma3x: btw |
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| 09:01.59 | streuner | ma3x: http://www.google.com/search?q=force+queue&sitesearch=www.postfix.org |
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| 09:02.07 | anders_ | does anybody got a guide how i install nvidia graphic driver for debian/kde? |
| 09:02.18 | Eulex | dpkg has a guide: |
| 09:02.24 | Eulex | !nvidia one-liner |
| 09:02.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 09:02.25 | anders_ | i have read that guide -.- |
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| 09:02.51 | anders_ | i dont understand what i shall put in the sources.list config.. |
| 09:02.52 | azeem | anders_: well ask questions about it if you don't understand something |
| 09:03.01 | streuner | ma3x: did you look if postfix stored them? |
| 09:03.04 | cougar` | Word |
| 09:03.06 | azeem | anders_: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 09:03.53 | anders_ | iam starting from the beginning now |
| 09:03.59 | anders_ | apt-get install module-assistant :) |
| 09:04.20 | anders_ | m-a prepare (Complete) |
| 09:04.22 | streuner | ma3x: /var/spool/postfix/deferred |
| 09:05.01 | anders_ | m-a a-i nvidia = failed: Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source failed. Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to sources.list maybe the contrib and non-free archives. |
| 09:05.08 | __ne2k | k31th: if you have some programmatic way that you can derive the alias from somewhere, then you can create the aliases file automatically. if you can't, how are you proposing to do it anyway? magic?! |
| 09:05.12 | ma3x | how do Ifind out the mail delieverer server of my isp ? |
| 09:05.17 | ma3x | should Ireally call them for that? |
| 09:05.22 | anders_ | azeem: i need help to fix my souces.list.. |
| 09:05.39 | azeem | anders_: don't ask people, ask the channel |
| 09:05.50 | __ne2k | ma3x: probably from their website somewhere. try googling for "smtp server site:my.isp.net" |
| 09:05.56 | azeem | I don't look at this chan all the time |
| 09:05.59 | anders_ | anyone that can help what i shall write into sources.list when iam trying to install nvidia |
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| 09:06.06 | streuner | ma3x: well, the mailserver of your ISP should take care and will inform you about. |
| 09:06.07 | liable | ma3x: they dont have a website? |
| 09:06.20 | azeem | anders_: did you read /msg dpkg non-free sources ? |
| 09:06.25 | k31th | __ne2k: i know, the format is going to diff so much ill probly have to do them by hand |
| 09:06.32 | anders_ | azeem: its not tellig me so much |
| 09:06.45 | __ne2k | k31th: you can always change the format. give me an example and I |
| 09:06.50 | azeem | what do you not understand about it? |
| 09:06.51 | streuner | ma3x: no, as we told you, the mailserver will inform you |
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| 09:06.59 | anders_ | what i shall write into the sources.list config.. |
| 09:07.03 | __ne2k | k31th: sorry about that. not used ot typing fast on this keyboard! give me an example and I'll try to help you |
| 09:07.09 | azeem | what does it say you should write? |
| 09:07.36 | __ne2k | k31th: i.e. where is the information stored for the e-mail username that user x wants to use, and how is it stored? |
| 09:07.44 | ma3x | what means status bounced? |
| 09:07.51 | ma3x | why is the mailserver of my isp bouncing |
| 09:08.03 | MoonDuck | is there a way to inspect what a package will do to my system before i apt-get it? what scripts will be ran, for example? |
| 09:08.05 | anders_ | azeem, write: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 09:08.10 | anders_ | then u se what it wrote to me |
| 09:08.23 | azeem | anders_: well, I see it, and I understand it perfectly |
| 09:08.28 | liable | !tell anders about reference |
| 09:08.41 | anders_ | azeem: iam not really good at english :) |
| 09:08.43 | azeem | so to improve it for others, we need to find out what is not undestandable for you |
| 09:08.44 | __ne2k | ma3x: a malserver cannot bounce, intransitive. it can bounce particular messages from a particular address or to a particular address or from a particular IP addres. |
| 09:08.57 | azeem | anders_: there are local debian channels as well |
| 09:09.12 | anders_ | azeem: do they mean deb ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ stable main and deb-src ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ stable main ?? |
| 09:09.18 | azeem | yes |
| 09:09.22 | anders_ | what shall i edit there |
| 09:09.23 | anders_ | can u help? :P |
| 09:09.29 | ma3x | __ne2k, so what is the mailserver of my isp? paladin.mt.net.mk |
| 09:09.36 | ma3x | it says status : bounced in /var/log/mail.log |
| 09:09.40 | __ne2k | MoonDuck: yes. you can download the package but not install it (man apt-get), then unpack it by hand (with ar) and inspect the control.tar.gz portion to see what it will do |
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| 09:09.56 | blazefx | Hey all |
| 09:10.03 | dooglus | ma3x: did you try pop.mt.com.mk ? |
| 09:10.05 | MoonDuck | __ne2k, gotchya. thanks a lot! |
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| 09:10.15 | blazefx | I just installed Debian and I am having a hard time getting XFree86 up and running. |
| 09:10.26 | anders_ | deb ftp://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free , azeem is that right? |
| 09:10.30 | azeem | yes |
| 09:10.37 | anders_ | on the other to |
| 09:10.38 | dooglus | ma3x: or pop.mt.net.mk |
| 09:10.40 | anders_ | ? |
| 09:10.41 | azeem | yes |
| 09:10.41 | __ne2k | ma3x: I'm not saying it's not bouncing your messages. I'm just saying that you'll have to work out why, and that it could be to do with your from address, the to address, or the from ip address. |
| 09:10.55 | anders_ | now i saved |
| 09:10.56 | anders_ | :o |
| 09:10.59 | anders_ | shall i try again? |
| 09:11.13 | azeem | what does it say next? |
| 09:11.18 | blazefx | I go through xf86config, and enter all correct information, but when I try to 'startx', It says "Fatal Server Error: no screens found" How can i install these "screens" |
| 09:11.20 | anders_ | i still got the error |
| 09:11.45 | anders_ | Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source failed. Ignoring this package. Maybye need to add something to sources.list, maybie the contriband non-free archives. |
| 09:11.53 | azeem | anders_: no, the non-free sources factoid |
| 09:11.57 | Eulex | !no screens found |
| 09:11.58 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 09:12.02 | anders_ | azeem: ? |
| 09:12.13 | Eulex | blazefx, ^^ |
| 09:12.14 | azeem | anders_: did you follow all the instructions about adding non-free? |
| 09:12.19 | anders_ | i wrote that |
| 09:12.22 | anders_ | shall i do: apt-get update ? |
| 09:12.27 | azeem | does it say you should? |
| 09:12.36 | blazefx | thank you |
| 09:12.39 | anders_ | ops :) |
| 09:12.43 | anders_ | yes i need to |
| 09:12.49 | azeem | ok, so do that |
| 09:12.53 | anders_ | then write that again? |
| 09:12.55 | anders_ | huh? |
| 09:13.04 | blazefx | !troubleshooting x |
| 09:13.04 | dpkg | To troubleshoot a problem with X, first look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log and find out what the problem is - look for the first lines starting with (EE). Then use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" or "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to fix it. Ask me about "x md5sum" |
| 09:13.08 | anders_ | it worked azeem !!! |
| 09:13.14 | azeem | cool |
| 09:13.17 | anders_ | :) |
| 09:13.40 | ma3x | it says : F05F79A: to=<mymail@yahoo.com>, relay=pop.mt.net.mk[195.26.152.150]:25, delay=0.28, delays=0.01/0/0.24/0.03, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host pop.mt.net.mk[195.26.152.150] said: 553 RCPT TO:<mymail@yahoo.com> refused (in reply to RCPT TO command)) Jul 18 11:22:00 localhost postfix/qmgr[5250]: F05F79A: removed |
| 09:13.52 | streuner | ma3x: well, the admin of the mailserver will informed about and take care, in the meantime just use another smarthost |
| 09:13.57 | Eulex | anders_, well, you need to practise your german ;P |
| 09:13.57 | anders_ | azeem: now i have downloaded that thing |
| 09:14.04 | anders_ | Eulex: iam swedish so i dont care :) |
| 09:14.07 | blazefx | okay well my first WW is that "The directory '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cryllic' does not exist. |
| 09:14.11 | anders_ | dai muten bist an archloch is the only thing i can :D |
| 09:14.17 | p0t_ | !dpkg lamp |
| 09:14.17 | dpkg | lamp is, like, Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ |
| 09:14.31 | ma3x | streuner, how do I get another smarthost? |
| 09:14.57 | streuner | ma3x: join some big mailserver-provider |
| 09:15.06 | streuner | for example gmx |
| 09:15.17 | __ne2k | anders_: praod?! |
| 09:15.20 | streuner | or web.de |
| 09:15.20 | anders_ | :D:D |
| 09:15.26 | anders_ | __ne2k: do u like my english? ;) |
| 09:15.28 | anders_ | proud then |
| 09:15.48 | anders_ | azeem: iam using: dpkg-reconfigure blabla now, it came up afew things i can choose between |
| 09:15.52 | anders_ | shall i use vesa? |
| 09:15.53 | __ne2k | anders_: dein Englisch gefällt mir ganz gut |
| 09:16.05 | blazefx | alright what should I do if it says "(WW) ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!" |
| 09:16.09 | azeem | anders_: I don't have nvidia graphic cards, so I can't help you |
| 09:16.16 | anders_ | vesa/vga/via/tsng/tga/s3/sis/siliconmotion etcetc |
| 09:16.19 | anders_ | i think its v esa |
| 09:16.22 | azeem | anders_: as I said, it is wiser to ask the whole channel |
| 09:16.23 | anders_ | becouse that was the default |
| 09:16.30 | azeem | anders_: what do you want to do? |
| 09:16.40 | streuner | ma3x: is that your mailserver .mk? |
| 09:16.49 | anders_ | it came up a thing |
| 09:16.59 | anders_ | Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card. |
| 09:17.02 | anders_ | I got 256mb |
| 09:17.05 | anders_ | 2560kb? |
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| 09:17.29 | Eulex | anders_, if you're unsure, don't enter anything. |
| 09:17.41 | Eulex | anders_, it will be autodetected |
| 09:17.43 | anders_ | but i got nvidia geforce fx 6600 256mb |
| 09:17.43 | anders_ | ok |
| 09:17.47 | streuner | ma3x: is that your mailserver .mk? |
| 09:17.55 | ma3x | streuner, yes its mk |
| 09:18.37 | streuner | ma3x: well, you can write a mail to yahoo, you have a better chance if the IP isn't dynamic |
| 09:18.37 | anders_ | azeem: iam done with the guide |
| 09:18.44 | anders_ | do i need to reboot? |
| 09:19.03 | azeem | anders_: as I said, it is wiser to ask the whole channel |
| 09:19.05 | azeem | eh |
| 09:19.08 | azeem | anders_: I don't have nvidia graphic cards, so I can't help you |
| 09:19.20 | anders_ | i think i have to reboot |
| 09:19.21 | anders_ | brb |
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| 09:21.56 | anders_ | azeem: weird that my graphic card doesent work.. |
| 09:22.04 | blazefx | Eulex: I fixed my problem. Thank you. |
| 09:22.08 | azeem | anders_: I don't have nvidia graphic cards, so I can't help you |
| 09:22.11 | Eulex | blazefx, yw :) |
| 09:22.15 | anders_ | can i get the url to the guide again? |
| 09:22.30 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:23.30 | letto2 | can grub boot in any partition ? |
| 09:23.35 | blazefx | Wow, I can't believe that my windows network is autodetected and it works! |
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| 09:24.05 | liable | letto2: it can, but you need some sort of bootloader in the mbr |
| 09:24.48 | letto2 | yeah but even extended partitions in the middle of the logical partition? |
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| 09:25.21 | ma3x | can anybody find out the smarthost of my ip (isp)?\ |
| 09:25.34 | ma3x | pop or smtp.mt.net.mk doesnt work |
| 09:25.35 | liable | letto2: what do you mean by the middle of a logical partition? |
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| 09:25.46 | Ronin | ma3x: call your isp helpdesk? |
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| 09:27.20 | anders_ | I have followed this guide to install nvidia for my debian: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, i have done everything right, i havent got any error, why doesent my graphic driver work?? |
| 09:27.41 | azeem | anders_: what doesn't work? |
| 09:28.03 | anders_ | u didnt knew anything about nvidia u said? |
| 09:28.20 | anders_ | azeem: i have followed that guide, but the nvidia doesent seems to work.. |
| 09:28.34 | azeem | anders_: so X works, but just the standard driver? |
| 09:28.47 | anders_ | i want to fix so my graphic isnt laggy |
| 09:28.48 | anders_ | ok? |
| 09:28.51 | anders_ | then i need nvidia |
| 09:29.23 | azeem | did you choose the nvidia driver during xfree86-reconfigure= |
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| 09:29.44 | mizer | what is the syntax to download only gif files from some url using wget ?? |
| 09:29.50 | anders_ | azeem: iam not sure |
| 09:29.54 | anders_ | can i reconfigure it now= |
| 09:29.55 | anders_ | ? |
| 09:30.03 | roxy_ | using wengophone, people I call can't hear me. Apparently it is coming from my alsamixer setting. Could someone be kind enough to look at it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Zra6210.html and tell me if something is obviously wrong ? |
| 09:30.24 | mizer | like: wget -r http://soem/ur/images |
| 09:30.33 | mizer | gets only index.htm and robots.txt |
| 09:30.38 | azeem | anders_: you can always reconfigure it |
| 09:30.42 | anders_ | how? |
| 09:30.43 | mizer | can i specify some wildcard or something ? |
| 09:31.02 | azeem | anders_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:31.03 | syntaxx | anders_, must select glx and uncheck glcore and dri i think |
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| 09:31.31 | MatBoy | when will xgl+compiz be integrated into etch ? |
| 09:31.49 | azeem | MatBoy: unknown |
| 09:32.16 | MatBoy | that is a pitty,,, Suse has it already... I don;t know if it's stable.. but it is there :) |
| 09:32.17 | Hoxzer | kannattaako käydä ulkona :O |
| 09:32.23 | Hoxzer | oops wrong channel |
| 09:33.12 | anders_ | What shall i choose on: Selct the desired X server driver ? |
| 09:33.21 | azeem | nvidia |
| 09:33.28 | syntaxx | anders_, http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers try this than the one liner |
| 09:33.44 | anders_ | azeem: thx, that was the thing i was asking before :D |
| 09:33.58 | shining | how do I see the debian changelog of a package? |
| 09:34.10 | syntaxx | anders_, dont forget to uncheck the dri and glcore in module |
| 09:34.14 | azeem | shining: view /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 09:34.45 | anders_ | syntaxx: do i have to reboot now? |
| 09:34.55 | streuner | shining: or online via pdo |
| 09:34.58 | azeem | no, just (re)start X |
| 09:35.04 | syntaxx | anders_, restart X |
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| 09:35.37 | liable | MatBoy: ubuntu has it even :( |
| 09:35.53 | mizer | guys, how to download recursively gif files from url using wget ??? |
| 09:35.54 | shining | streuner: yes, I used to do it on pdo, but it isn't updated yet :) |
| 09:35.56 | syntaxx | anders_, it must show the nvidia logo when u start X |
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| 09:37.12 | MatBoy | liable, it has it ? damn !! |
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| 09:38.36 | anders_ | ctrl+alt+backspace for restartx? |
| 09:38.44 | syntaxx | anders_, yes |
| 09:38.46 | anders_ | ok |
| 09:38.47 | anders_ | brb |
| 09:38.47 | anders_ | :) |
| 09:38.51 | shining | liable: MatBoy: what about using these distribs instead of debian since you care that much? |
| 09:38.57 | MatBoy | anders_, open a terminal, become root and "reboot" :D |
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| 09:39.19 | MatBoy | shining, I hate rpm's |
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| 09:39.26 | anders_ | yes |
| 09:39.29 | liable | shining: how about you stfu? |
| 09:39.29 | anders_ | it works!! |
| 09:39.39 | shining | ubuntu doesnt use rpm afaik |
| 09:39.57 | anders_ | azeem: it works |
| 09:40.00 | MatBoy | anders_, I have that on 3 monitors... really kewl.. 3 white screens with the nvidia-logo on it :) |
| 09:40.12 | anders_ | hehe |
| 09:40.12 | azeem | MatBoy: xgl is not stable |
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| 09:40.15 | anders_ | but my nvidia works now! |
| 09:40.17 | anders_ | jippie! |
| 09:40.29 | shining | liable: you are the one whining |
| 09:40.37 | MatBoy | azeem, nope indeed, that is for sure, but still kewl that they have it in the enterprise version |
| 09:40.58 | liable | shining: firstly, i wasnt whining, i was stating, secondly, i wasnt talking to you. i addressed MatBoy |
| 09:40.58 | shining | debian isn't kewl, so that's fine |
| 09:41.18 | shining | liable: feel free to talk in pv then |
| 09:41.22 | MatBoy | I think that shining does not know that thios is a Debian-channel :) |
| 09:41.23 | azeem | I don't think there is a real argument here, please move along |
| 09:41.24 | MatBoy | this |
| 09:41.39 | anders_ | MatBoy: iam happy :) |
| 09:41.48 | MatBoy | anders_, really kewl ! |
| 09:42.00 | MatBoy | anders_, why do you need it btw ? :D |
| 09:42.19 | liable | shining: your comments are appreciated.. *plonk* |
| 09:42.39 | anders_ | MatBoy: becouse it lags |
| 09:42.43 | anders_ | shit without ito |
| 09:42.43 | anders_ | :D |
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| 09:44.25 | sid | Where can I get stats of how many openoffice.org users there are; and how many Microsoft Office users there are? From an independent party. |
| 09:44.42 | schasi | evaluate google data? |
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| 09:45.07 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
| 09:45.18 | anders_ | MatBoy: do u know how i can configure that i dont need to write in username/password when i start my computer, it shall just start debian it self? |
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| 09:45.27 | incorrect | what alternatives are there to cacti / nagios? |
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| 09:48.21 | blijblijblij | incorrect: munin, http://www.howtoforge.com/server_monitoring_monit_munin |
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| 09:52.59 | anders_ | java |
| 09:53.07 | anders_ | !java |
| 09:53.07 | dpkg | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 09:53.24 | Ronin | didnt believe it the first time anders_? :) |
| 09:53.30 | anders_ | :D |
| 09:54.12 | incorrect | thank you blijblijblij |
| 09:54.39 | ma3x | is there a printer application for kde? |
| 09:55.01 | incorrect | ma3x: sure most things can print |
| 09:55.09 | anders_ | how do i configure so i can open urls in irssi? |
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| 09:55.56 | ma3x | lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). |
| 09:55.56 | ma3x | DMA write timed out |
| 09:55.56 | ma3x | what means that? |
| 09:55.58 | ma3x | why doesnt it print/ |
| 09:56.31 | liable | anders_: sounds like a question for #irssi (it can be done, buggered if i know how though) |
| 09:57.05 | ma3x | parport0: FIFO is stuck |
| 09:57.05 | ma3x | parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 09:57.14 | ma3x | how do I get my damn printer print!? |
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| 09:58.35 | ma3x | damn why is noone helping? |
| 09:58.51 | p0t_ | ma3x, what do you need? |
| 09:58.55 | anders_ | what one shall i download here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp to make this command: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin |
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| 09:59.15 | ma3x | p0t_, to print my page |
| 09:59.31 | ma3x | I click in kmail on print |
| 09:59.34 | ma3x | then it doesnt print it |
| 09:59.43 | p0t_ | have you setup printing at all? |
| 09:59.51 | __ne2k | is there any reason why it is necessary to run depmod every time a machine boots? it's quite a slow process. |
| 10:00.32 | liable | anders_: java is in debian now.. |
| 10:00.38 | ma3x | p0t_, no how? |
| 10:01.09 | p0t_ | what model printer do you have? and where is this printer on the network or hooked up to your box? |
| 10:01.38 | anders_ | liable: .. |
| 10:01.51 | liable | eh? |
| 10:01.53 | anders_ | why doesnt it found: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin then..? |
| 10:02.07 | liable | ... |
| 10:02.18 | liable | !find java etch |
| 10:02.20 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'java' (15 of 205): coco-java ;; entity-javascript ;; free-java-sdk ;; java-common ;; java-gcj-compat ;; java-gcj-compat-dev ;; java-package ;; java2html ;; javacc ;; kdebindings-java ;; libasm-java ;; libasm-java-doc ;; libavalon-framework-java ;; libavalon-framework-java-doc ;; libbatik-java. |
| 10:02.23 | ma3x | p0t_, usb, epson stylus color 580 |
| 10:02.49 | liable | anders_: apt-cache search java |
| 10:03.04 | anders_ | oki :S |
| 10:03.07 | anders_ | about 3000 things came :D |
| 10:03.16 | Diazepam | can anyone tell me where temporary network settings are kept (e.g. not /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 10:03.27 | anders_ | jamvm, liable shall i download that 1+ |
| 10:03.48 | liable | anders_: sun-java-bin |
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| 10:04.16 | liable | anders_: sun-java5-bin |
| 10:04.23 | azeem | liable: not in testing |
| 10:04.31 | azeem | isn't anders_ running stable, even? |
| 10:04.38 | anders_ | liable: didnt found the sun-java5-bin? |
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| 10:05.25 | ma3x | how the hell do I setup my printer? |
| 10:05.37 | p0t_ | ma3x, stfu |
| 10:05.40 | anders_ | liable: how shall i install it if it doesnt find it? :) |
| 10:05.42 | p0t_ | ma3x, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Color_580 |
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| 10:07.26 | liable | anders_: hrm, i thought it made it to etch, seems i am wrong. sorry |
| 10:09.24 | yeager | sun-java5-bin exists in unstable |
| 10:09.43 | liable | yeah, but not in etch yet |
| 10:09.51 | yeager | true. |
| 10:10.03 | linux2 | mehh |
| 10:10.07 | linux2 | this is never going to work |
| 10:10.15 | schasi | apt-get.org? |
| 10:10.17 | linux2 | i say that debian is borked |
| 10:10.27 | schasi | What does borked mean? |
| 10:10.32 | linux2 | broken |
| 10:10.55 | linux2 | i have had loads of issues with the kernel modules |
| 10:11.02 | linux2 | they area always broken |
| 10:11.04 | linux2 | the new laptop i have |
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| 10:11.11 | p0t_ | where does mysql keep its passwords? |
| 10:11.12 | linux2 | the one for the touchpad is broken |
| 10:11.35 | schasi | linux2: Try Suse ;-) |
| 10:11.42 | linux2 | schasi, been there |
| 10:11.47 | linux2 | schasi, never really liked it |
| 10:11.48 | schasi | done that |
| 10:11.52 | schasi | Well neither did i |
| 10:11.58 | linux2 | lol |
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| 10:12.26 | Zap-W | smelly cat |
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| 10:13.52 | schasi | what distros did you try, linux2? |
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| 10:14.33 | tenzing_ | the volume control icon on my panel always shows its it mute and when i double click the icon it gives a dialog with error "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found".. help.. |
| 10:14.40 | ma3x | how do I launch gimp-print, it has no executable |
| 10:14.58 | linux2 | schasi, well ive tried basically most of the major ones |
| 10:15.08 | linux2 | schasi, debian being one of my favorites |
| 10:15.19 | linux2 | schasi, on this laptop i have tried ubuntu, mandriva and debian |
| 10:15.24 | Eulex | ma3x, Description: print plugin for the GIMP This package includes the Print plugin for the GIMP. |
| 10:15.32 | linux2 | i don't like gnome but ubuntu worked prefectly |
| 10:15.38 | linux2 | except for the wireless network card |
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| 10:15.45 | linux2 | it can find it but that card won't connect to anything |
| 10:16.16 | Zap-W | what's easier to install and configure RHEL or Debian |
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| 10:16.19 | ma3x | Eulex, when I launch gimp , how do Ifind that thing |
| 10:16.23 | Hoxzer | has somebody here ran maketorrent? |
| 10:16.23 | schasi | linux2: There is also kde and xfce available for ubuntu |
| 10:18.06 | ma3x | damnnit I can't print a damn doc file |
| 10:18.09 | ma3x | I can't print nothing |
| 10:18.39 | ma3x | DMA write timed out |
| 10:18.40 | ma3x | parport0: FIFO is stuck |
| 10:18.40 | ma3x | parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 10:18.43 | Eulex | ma3x, I'm not sure, but I'd imagine that you'd get a "Print..." entry in the File menu for a picture |
| 10:18.44 | ma3x | that's what I get in dmesg |
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| 10:20.48 | jishin | hi, I couln't access internet from inside network, but still gain acess from outside via ssh, apache |
| 10:21.36 | anders_ | anyone that can help me install java? |
| 10:21.49 | jishin | I mean , I do remote work with the server, but couln't access to outside from that server |
| 10:22.07 | schasi | Zap-W: depends |
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| 10:23.14 | jishin | after I did something with named |
| 10:23.15 | ma3x | can nobody guide me to setup a damn printer?! |
| 10:24.01 | Zap-W | schasi: ofcourse |
| 10:24.28 | roxy_ | ma3x: what localhost:631 says ? |
| 10:24.42 | liable | in a browser.. |
| 10:24.42 | ma3x | roxy_, telnet or what? |
| 10:24.51 | roxy_ | ma3x: http |
| 10:24.56 | ma3x | refused |
| 10:25.01 | schasi | Zap-W: You could specify |
| 10:25.11 | ma3x | roxy_, refuses |
| 10:25.15 | roxy_ | ma3x: you're using cups, aren't you ? |
| 10:25.27 | ma3x | roxy_, I dont know, I dont think so |
| 10:25.34 | ma3x | roxy_, I didnt setup anything |
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| 10:25.43 | ma3x | I just plugged it in and I want to work |
| 10:26.11 | roxy_ | ma3x: aptitude install cupsys |
| 10:26.20 | shining | ma3x: then work |
| 10:26.25 | roxy_ | :-) |
| 10:26.40 | ma3x | installing ... gimp has to be removed?? |
| 10:27.11 | roxy_ | ma3x: what printer are you using |
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| 10:27.36 | ma3x | roxy_, epson stylus color 580 |
| 10:27.38 | Jenesis | hi |
| 10:27.39 | roxy_ | ma3x: when you say gimp do you mean gimp driver ? |
| 10:27.41 | ma3x | *usb |
| 10:27.51 | roxy_ | ma3x: what is the driver for it? |
| 10:27.52 | ma3x | roxy_, I mean gimp software (for images) |
| 10:28.09 | ma3x | because if I do 'aptitude install cupsys' it wants to remove gimp, and if I do apt-get install cupsys, gimp can stay |
| 10:28.31 | roxy_ | ma" |
| 10:28.39 | Jenesis | I'm trying to configure an HP color laserjet 1600 with P-Color_LaserJet_1600-foo2hp.ppd |
| 10:28.41 | roxy_ | ma3x: aptitude is your friend :-) |
| 10:28.48 | Jenesis | it worked till I installed some gimp's drivers... |
| 10:29.04 | tenzing_ | how can i configure my sound on debian |
| 10:29.19 | roxy_ | tenzing_: alsaconf |
| 10:29.21 | Jenesis | alsaconf |
| 10:29.25 | schasi | alsaconf |
| 10:29.28 | Jenesis | xD |
| 10:30.06 | Jenesis | nobody knows about cups ? |
| 10:30.08 | roxy_ | Jenesis: stupid question: if it worked then why did you installed ... |
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| 10:30.31 | Jenesis | roxy_: gimp didn't print at all |
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| 10:31.20 | Growly | arrrggghhhh |
| 10:31.33 | Growly | does anyone here know how to install mplayer with xvid support from source? |
| 10:31.34 | schasi | hi Growly |
| 10:31.42 | Growly | hi schasi, how are you? |
| 10:31.42 | dpkg | Growly: pretty good. how about you? |
| 10:31.48 | ma3x | hey what is the username and pass for localhost:631 |
| 10:31.48 | tenzing_ | roxy_, i dont seem to have alsaconf installed ... whats the package name |
| 10:31.55 | ma3x | I didn't set any, but it wants me to provide now |
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| 10:31.59 | roxy_ | Jenesis: did you try with gtklp ? |
| 10:32.01 | schasi | hei, i have dpkg autoresponding for me |
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| 10:32.18 | roxy_ | Growly: -> #mplayer |
| 10:32.25 | Growly | hah! |
| 10:32.42 | schasi | No xvid support in any binary packages? |
| 10:32.44 | roxy_ | tenzing_: what distro are you using ? |
| 10:32.54 | tenzing_ | roxy_, debian sarge |
| 10:32.55 | Jenesis | roxy_: I'll try it. thanks :) |
| 10:32.57 | tuv | Growly, what's wrong with the precompiled mplayer |
| 10:32.58 | tuv | ? |
| 10:33.14 | liable | Growly: why not just get it from marillat |
| 10:33.17 | liable | My8os: root |
| 10:33.21 | liable | ma3x: ^^ |
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| 10:34.22 | Jenesis | roxy_: I don't have Gnome does it work on icewm? gtklp ? |
| 10:34.31 | roxy_ | tenzing_: don't know but "aptitude install alsaplayer" should install it |
| 10:34.52 | roxy_ | Jenesis: it used to work on kde, don't know icewm |
| 10:34.55 | ma3x | roxy_, I send jobs to the printer, and it says completed, but it doesnt print anything |
| 10:35.10 | Growly | tuv - i can't find it |
| 10:35.13 | tenzing_ | roxy_, thanks |
| 10:35.21 | Growly | liable - what's a marillat? |
| 10:35.23 | roxy_ | ma3x: did you install cups? |
| 10:35.23 | tuv | Growly, www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 10:35.38 | Growly | oh my. |
| 10:35.52 | ma3x | roxy_, yes and I connected successfully to the localhost:631 and added my printer |
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| 10:36.07 | roxy_ | !marillat |
| 10:36.07 | dpkg | marillat is probably a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 10:36.08 | ma3x | but when I print out a test page or something, it says processing and then completed, but nothing comes out of the printer |
| 10:36.33 | roxy_ | ma3x: you don't have a client-error message ? |
| 10:36.56 | ma3x | roxy_, where do I see those? |
| 10:37.13 | roxy_ | ma3x: something like /var/log/cups... |
| 10:37.23 | ma3x | should I add class or something? |
| 10:37.29 | ma3x | roxy_, in dmesg? or in the web interface? |
| 10:37.57 | Growly | *sigh* here we go again with the apt-get doing everything for me and making it look so easy |
| 10:38.10 | Growly | this is why compiling depresses me, it never works when i try and do it |
| 10:38.14 | schasi | Growly: Whatd the problem |
| 10:38.27 | ma3x | roxy_, no errors, it says completed , but it doesnt print anything out |
| 10:38.55 | Jenesis | roxy, it doesn't work but thanks. :) bye |
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| 10:39.05 | roxy_ | ma3x: could you choose your printer in the list ? |
| 10:39.21 | tuv | Growly, you can compile mplayer but you'll need to install a lot of *-dev packages |
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| 10:39.52 | tuv | Growly, almost every compile error indicates a missing library |
| 10:39.57 | ma3x | roxy_, yes! |
| 10:39.57 | Growly | schasi - want to compile and subsequently install mplayer with the xvid codec. I downloaded, configured, compiled, and make installed the codec (it ended up in /usr/local/lib). When i configure mplayer, it doesn't detect xvid, nor does it when i append --with-xvidlibdir= etc. |
| 10:39.59 | Growly | oh reheheeely? |
| 10:40.20 | schasi | yep |
| 10:40.20 | ma3x | roxy_, but when I start kjobviewer it says no default printer, start with --all |
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| 10:40.28 | schasi | Just use marillat. |
| 10:40.35 | Growly | i am. |
| 10:40.37 | Growly | i feel so dirty. |
| 10:40.45 | Growly | how can i learn if i dont take the hard way? |
| 10:40.54 | ma3x | roxy_, parport0: FIFO is stuck |
| 10:40.54 | ma3x | parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 10:40.54 | ma3x | DMA write timed out |
| 10:40.58 | ma3x | that I get in dmesg |
| 10:41.29 | tuv | Growly, the hard way is the best way. what comes hard leaves hard |
| 10:42.08 | schasi | Growly: There you go to lfs ;-) |
| 10:42.43 | anders_ | how do i install java for mozilla/firefox? |
| 10:42.56 | Growly | linux from scratch? |
| 10:43.01 | roxy_ | ma3x: sorry, nothing I can do more, :-/ |
| 10:43.01 | Growly | the distro or the site? |
| 10:43.08 | Growly | (or is it a site for the distro?) |
| 10:43.14 | tuv | anders_, install sun-java5-* packages (if you're running testing or sid) |
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| 10:43.49 | anders_ | my orignial java works |
| 10:44.10 | schasi | The distro |
| 10:44.21 | schasi | Or debian from scratch if you want it a bit softer |
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| 10:44.28 | schasi | Which is not quite the same |
| 10:45.44 | anders_ | tuv: weird that the web thing dosnt work |
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| 10:46.36 | Yperite | Hi, i have a problem with dpkg-statoverride. can anyone help me? |
| 10:46.38 | brownie17 | hi all, when using visudo, after you have written what you want in it, how do you exit? |
| 10:46.39 | tuv | anders_, you need the browser plugin. for mozilla/firefox it's a symlink in e.g. /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ to the .so plugin file |
| 10:46.52 | anders_ | tuv: can u tell me what i shall download then? :) |
| 10:47.47 | tuv | anders_, it's easiest if you use sun-java5-* packages, or the java-package |
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| 10:47.58 | tuv | anders_, where did you get your current java from? |
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| 10:48.15 | Growly | i love you guys. LFS here i come! |
| 10:48.19 | Growly | all i need is some time... |
| 10:48.22 | Growly | and to not be sleepy |
| 10:48.23 | Growly | crap |
| 10:48.31 | tuv | anders_, can you paste java -version? |
| 10:48.36 | anders_ | how+ :P |
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| 10:49.45 | brownie17 | hi all, when using visudo, after you have written what you want in it, how do you exit? |
| 10:50.16 | Eulex | brownie17, :wq |
| 10:50.24 | poli | hello all! I dont seem to get udevd to show up a /dev/sequencer device. Any idea how to make that? (/dev/.static/dev has it...) |
| 10:50.35 | Eulex | (write and quit) |
| 10:51.09 | tuv | Eulex, mine uses nano instead of vim |
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| 10:51.36 | letto | why is python still version 2.3.5 even unstable? |
| 10:52.05 | brownie17 | Eulex, thanks |
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| 10:54.24 | Eulex | tuv, true, assumed that his used vim because he couldn't exit it (nano has quite clear instructions on how to quit) |
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| 10:55.55 | baua | i compiled a new 2.6.17 kernel and got a "mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs'" error, what can i do about it ... didnt find a kernel parameter to enable devfs |
| 10:56.25 | liable | baua: its not in later kernels any more.. |
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| 10:57.10 | baua | its the newest i got, yesterday |
| 10:57.15 | petemc | baua: what config did you use? |
| 10:57.38 | baua | its for a b2000 hppa risc engine |
| 10:57.39 | Alver | Hello. I'm trying to find the "mpcdec" binary for sid - I can't seem to find it; there's libmpcdec3 which I installed, but the debian website doesn't want to show the contents of the package. Anyone know where it went? |
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| 10:59.20 | Yperite | Hi, i have a problem with dpkg-statoverride. can anyone help me? |
| 10:59.29 | baua | petemc: any ideas? |
| 10:59.40 | anders_ | is xfce4 better for bad computers? :P |
| 10:59.49 | Yperite | Hi, i have a problem with apt-get, i can"t install many packages ... can anyone help me ? |
| 10:59.58 | petemc | baua: i dont know too much about that arch, but have seen that error when a kernel is missing its initrd line |
| 11:00.16 | poli | Any idea of how to get /dev/sequencer to show up on udevd? |
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| 11:08.28 | tuv | Yperite, " i can"t install many packages" isn't good enough to know the solution of your problem. can you elaborate?! |
| 11:09.34 | Yperite | tuv, when i attempt to install a package, i have an error with dpkg-statoverride |
| 11:10.18 | Yperite | tuv, i have not /var/lib/dpkg/stateoverride .. |
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| 11:16.05 | Yperite | tuv, have you this file? /var/lib/dpkg/stateoverride |
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| 11:21.20 | anders_ | can i get a guide how i shall install nvidia? |
| 11:21.27 | anders_ | how do i write to dpkg |
| 11:21.38 | anders_ | !nvidia |
| 11:21.38 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 11:23.17 | Tallu | Everyone wish me luck. Upgrading the kernel now, have to hope there's no panic cause I havent got a spare monitor. :P |
| 11:23.26 | tuv | anders_, m-a a-i nvidia |
| 11:23.40 | anders_ | tuv: it shall be a guide dpkg says |
| 11:23.45 | anders_ | .. |
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| 11:24.18 | tuv | anders_, install module-assistant, start it, and install nvidia there. read module-assistant's docs |
| 11:24.22 | anders_ | ffs |
| 11:24.25 | anders_ | it worked before |
| 11:24.27 | anders_ | with dpkg guide |
| 11:24.32 | anders_ | tell me how i shall write to dpkg |
| 11:24.42 | anders_ | !nvidia driver |
| 11:24.49 | anders_ | !nvidia |
| 11:24.49 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 11:24.55 | anders_ | nvidia installer |
| 11:25.04 | anders_ | !nvidia installer |
| 11:25.04 | dpkg | methinks nvidia-installer is a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. see <nvidia-graphics-drivers>, or <nvidia one-liner> |
| 11:25.11 | itchi | anders_: stop |
| 11:25.14 | anders_ | ok |
| 11:25.17 | tuv | Yperite, i do have that file, but i don't know anything about it |
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| 11:25.27 | Eulex | !botabuse |
| 11:25.27 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 11:25.28 | itchi | !tell anders_ -about selftell |
| 11:25.33 | Yperite | tuv, can you paste me this file |
| 11:26.14 | tuv | Yperite, it has this line only: root Debian-exim 0640 /etc/exim4/passwd.client |
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| 11:27.07 | itchi | anders_: Now you know about it ^^ |
| 11:27.12 | anders_ | can i fix so i can use ctrl+123456... for change window instead of esc+123425.. etc |
| 11:27.19 | Yperite | tuv, the problem it's that i cant install exim4 with apt-get, have u any idea? |
| 11:27.21 | DarKnesS_WolF | dpkg: pm-utils |
| 11:27.39 | anders_ | iam using xfce4 |
| 11:27.39 | tuv | !tell anders_ about nvidia one-liner |
| 11:28.00 | xored | which linux anitvirus to use ?s |
| 11:28.04 | Eulex | anders_, umh, what do you mean? to change windows? |
| 11:28.06 | DarKnesS_WolF | there is no pm-utils in debian ? |
| 11:28.07 | tuv | Yperite, what exactly does apt-get say when you do: apt-get install exim4 |
| 11:28.28 | Guerin | xored: CommonSense(TM) |
| 11:28.36 | Guerin | xored: unfortunately, you can't buy it. |
| 11:28.37 | Eulex | xored, are you running a mail server with many windows users? |
| 11:28.51 | itchi | anders_: You need to look to 'keybinding' |
| 11:28.53 | anders_ | Eulex: yes, its disturbin to use esc+1234... |
| 11:28.56 | anders_ | itchi: where? |
| 11:28.57 | xored | Eulex: nope, its a dualboot windows / debian |
| 11:29.11 | xored | Eulex: working under linux, making some necc. stuff under windows |
| 11:29.27 | Eulex | xored, ok, why then do you need a antivirus? there are basically no virii for linux. |
| 11:29.34 | liable | whos tried aiglx? |
| 11:29.41 | Guerin | viruxen! |
| 11:29.43 | Guerin | liable: not you |
| 11:29.51 | anders_ | Eulex: brb i need to /msg Eulex whould u like me soon? |
| 11:29.52 | anders_ | :P |
| 11:30.03 | Eulex | ... |
| 11:30.04 | liable | Guerin: i am compiling xorg atm. |
| 11:30.05 | Yperite | tuv, http://cut.and.paste.org/pastebin/index.php?id=17 |
| 11:30.07 | xored | Eulex: thats defently not right. But as there are "some" for windows, i want to check my windows partitions under linux and vise vers |
| 11:30.08 | xored | a |
| 11:30.20 | Eulex | that guy seriously needs to train his english |
| 11:30.26 | Guerin | xored: wtf. |
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| 11:30.39 | Eulex | xored, clamav |
| 11:30.40 | anders_ | hello again :p |
| 11:30.40 | Guerin | xored: well, clamav is sane |
| 11:30.55 | Guerin | xored: but this isn't really a #debian question; google can help you |
| 11:31.09 | Eulex | anders_, xfce4 doesn't have any keybinding that is esc-123456 by default |
| 11:31.13 | itchi | anders_: Some guys are slow, it's hot here :-p |
| 11:31.21 | Guerin | most unix antivirus is keyed towards scanning mail bound for windows machines |
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| 11:31.30 | anders_ | Eulex: so i cant fix that?.. |
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| 11:32.45 | Eulex | anders_, well, again, what you mean by "switch windows"? also, maybe we could take this in #xfce-nordic? your english doesn't seem to be very good |
| 11:32.58 | Ronin | oh thank goodness the ac's back on |
| 11:33.11 | Guerin | bah, ac is overrated |
| 11:33.26 | Guerin | do without for a few weeks and you find you no longer need it |
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| 11:33.44 | Ronin | Guerin: ha, want to bet |
| 11:34.09 | Guerin | Ronin: you probably live in the great sandy desert or something |
| 11:34.13 | fugitive_ | i have a problem with my router setting.i want to enable a local lan webpage on my pc to be viewed by outside users means on WAN.i have port forwarded so that the port will be fwd to the pc which has the webpage on it. now when i open the webpage from outside the LAN i get the router login page !!! |
| 11:34.24 | Ronin | all righty lets fire up the work email and see what silliness will insue today |
| 11:34.48 | Guerin | but I learnt to sirvive temperatures around 40 degc daytime and 35 at night |
| 11:34.50 | tuv | Yperite, what language is this. i only recognized exim4 and statoverride. i'd try "touch /var/lib.." to create the file and find out what happens then. but i still don't know what apt-get is complaining about |
| 11:34.54 | Guerin | s/sir/sur/ |
| 11:34.58 | fugitive_ | i have hosted the webpage on APache server in /var/www/ but if i open the webpage in local LAN with the hostname the webpage opens nicely |
| 11:35.21 | Yperite | tuv, it's french |
| 11:35.37 | fugitive_ | how to make the webpage to be viwed by outsiders i.e on WAN. |
| 11:35.44 | Yperite | tuv, i could create the files but, i don't know what i can write in this. |
| 11:35.49 | fugitive_ | I am using NetcommNB5 modem router |
| 11:36.00 | Guerin | fugitive_: consult documentation for said router |
| 11:36.00 | fugitive_ | any help guys ? |
| 11:36.10 | Guerin | fugitive_: you want to know about 'port forwarding' |
| 11:36.23 | Guerin | fugitive_: this isn't something we can help with, since we don't know that particular router |
| 11:36.26 | fugitive_ | Guerin: i have done that but the port fwd doesnt work properly |
| 11:36.29 | tuv | Yperite, don't write anything, just touch the file to create an empty one |
| 11:36.44 | tuv | Yperite, btw, did you try google? |
| 11:36.46 | Guerin | fugitive_: contact your router's tech support; we can't help you |
| 11:36.52 | fugitive_ | ok |
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| 11:37.22 | Tallu | Yes! |
| 11:37.29 | Tallu | Linux xi-it.org 2.6.16-2-686 #1 Sun Jul 16 00:36:41 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 11:37.35 | Yperite | tuv, if the file is empty, i have an error.. i look on google but there are nothing :/ |
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| 11:37.55 | wimpies | which tool(s) could I use to browse to certain ascii files based on a set of matches previously collected with grep ? |
| 11:38.25 | tuv | Yperite, so do you have the file or not? did you create it or was it there already? |
| 11:39.10 | Yperite | tuv, i haven t the file and obtain an error, then i have create it (empty) and i have an error. |
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| 11:40.41 | anders_ | where can i find pictures to etc, gaim, terminals, etc etc |
| 11:40.42 | anders_ | :)= |
| 11:40.44 | liable | brb |
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| 11:40.58 | Ronin | anders_: try that again please it didnt make sense |
| 11:41.45 | tuv | :D |
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| 11:43.18 | Eulex | anders_, well, again, what you mean by "switch windows"? also, maybe we could take this in #xfce-nordic? your english doesn't seem to be very good, so that'd make it easier |
| 11:45.07 | tuv | Yperite, what does "dpkg-statoverride --list" say? |
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| 11:46.16 | Yperite | tuv, i have delete /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride and create it with touch, i run apt-get and this work now ^^ THX ! |
| 11:46.38 | tuv | Yperite, great |
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| 11:46.42 | Eulex | anders_, problem med engelskan? prova #debian.se för problem med debian i allmänhet och #xfce-nordic för problem med xfce |
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| 11:47.14 | Yperite | tuv, thanks you very much for your help ! |
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| 11:47.48 | tuv | Yperite, np |
| 11:47.54 | possie | anyone have an idea if wine is able to use the USB port, and if so, how can i configure this? |
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| 11:50.39 | hs-125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.57 | Zap-W | hey |
| 11:51.10 | Zap-W | what's the name of the lame package for encoding wav to mp3 |
| 11:51.21 | tuv | lame |
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| 11:51.28 | Zap-W | can't find |
| 11:51.35 | tuv | in www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 11:51.38 | Ronin | think ill pass hs-125 |
| 11:52.15 | hs-125 | Ronin, ? |
| 11:52.44 | Zap-W | and why isn't it in the official main repository |
| 11:53.04 | Ronin | hs-125: i dont go to urls on irc from folks i dont know |
| 11:53.13 | tuv | mp3 is not free.. ogg is. use vorbistools' oggenc instead |
| 11:53.49 | tuv | Zap-W, btw, ogg is better tan mp3 |
| 11:54.19 | tuv | s/tan/than |
| 11:54.29 | hs-125 | Ronin, fine...do you know any website i can bypass cache and see websites? |
| 11:55.35 | liable | grrr, cvs xorg doesnt find modules.. guess its a job for tomorrow |
| 11:55.43 | Zap-W | tuv: Not |
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| 11:56.26 | tuv | Zap-W, how! |
| 11:58.17 | Zap-W | bow! |
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| 12:01.42 | Werdna | hi there |
| 12:01.56 | Werdna | what do you guys make of this error in compiling Atheme IRC Services: "checking for suffix of executables... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of executables: cannot compile and link"? |
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| 12:02.51 | SlayerXP | Werdna: "apt-get install build-essential" maybe? |
| 12:03.13 | Werdna | SlayerXP, I can make && make install other stuff. |
| 12:03.37 | SlayerXP | Werdna: so what? |
| 12:03.38 | Werdna | it's just Atheme that's failing. |
| 12:03.54 | Werdna | that implies that I have the buildessentials. |
| 12:04.10 | SlayerXP | Werdna: no, it doesn't, it implies so have _some_ build tools installed. |
| 12:04.17 | SlayerXP | you have |
| 12:04.23 | Werdna | ah. |
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| 12:11.09 | metaphaze | doesn't debian use mplayer? |
| 12:11.11 | metaphaze | is it called something else? i don't see it in the repositories. |
| 12:11.23 | streuner | metaphaze: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 12:11.57 | cbr | www.debian-multimedia.org or smth |
| 12:12.44 | metaphaze | ??? patent pending reasons? |
| 12:13.01 | incorrect | whats the gig with exim and postfix ? is postfix the favoured smtp agent now? |
| 12:13.30 | cbr | metaphaze: yes |
| 12:13.30 | Ronin | incorrect: personal choice |
| 12:13.38 | cbr | it's not Free As In Debian (tm) or smth |
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| 12:13.56 | linux2 | anyone know the command to connect to a wireless network |
| 12:14.00 | incorrect | Ronin: seems like exim isn't much loved no more |
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| 12:21.59 | metaphaze | cbr what patent pending reasons?... don't tell me that microshaft drm stuff |
| 12:22.47 | xored | guys, what do i need to mount NTFS writeable ? |
| 12:23.10 | metaphaze | xored, ntfs write support in your kernel... |
| 12:23.37 | xored | metaphaze: oh, kernel recompile :/ ok fine |
| 12:24.02 | metaphaze | how do you compile a debian kernel? kbuild? |
| 12:24.41 | Ronin | metaphaze: new debian kernel? apt-get install usually |
| 12:24.43 | cbr | metaphaze: dunno |
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| 12:25.39 | metaphaze | Ronin, no i mean to compile my own... custom... (sry gentoo user here) |
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| 12:26.16 | Woosta | Anyone tell me where debian sets $PATH globally? |
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| 12:27.29 | incorrect | /etc/profile ? |
| 12:28.52 | Woosta | Bah.. keep fogetting I'm using kubuntu on my new machine |
| 12:29.45 | sussudio | %fist Woosta |
| 12:29.55 | yaarg | it doesn't really matter what distro you are using for your distro |
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| 12:30.07 | yaarg | for your question even |
| 12:30.38 | incorrect | Woosta: does it confuse you when gdm pops up and it says kubuntu? |
| 12:30.58 | incorrect | err kdm |
| 12:31.02 | Woosta | badgers: it does .. for some stupid reason kubuntu sticks it in /etc/environment |
| 12:31.03 | badgers | You are moron #1, Woosta |
| 12:31.32 | incorrect | Woosta: maybe you should try debian |
| 12:31.33 | Woosta | I am .. but at least I know that it's in different places no different distros :) |
| 12:31.44 | Woosta | incorrect: I had debian on my old machine |
| 12:32.12 | Woosta | (Which is why I accidentally came asking in here :)) |
| 12:32.33 | incorrect | Woosta: do you have faulty memory installed? |
| 12:32.39 | Woosta | Yup |
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| 12:33.03 | incorrect | well put yourself back in the box and send yourself back to the place you bought yourself from |
| 12:33.17 | Woosta | Hahahah |
| 12:33.29 | Woosta | I told someone else to do that in #perl yesterday |
| 12:34.12 | incorrect | did you think it was strange he was talking about perl in #perl? |
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| 12:35.11 | Woosta | No, it was IIRC because he was claiming that every call to time() was returning the same value |
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| 12:36.13 | Woosta | Anyway .. sorry for the wrong channel .. cheers! |
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| 12:38.24 | Pragmatic | X broke. Don't know when, since I don't use it that much, but presumably, it was after a kernel recompile. |
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| 12:38.37 | Pragmatic | Error message is: VESA(0): vm86() syscall generated signal 4. |
| 12:38.50 | vick | Hello. I have a network card but after a restart when i try ifconfig i cannot see any eth0. |
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| 12:42.48 | wils0n__ | what kind of network card is it? |
| 12:44.13 | streuner | Pragmatic: what happens if you run an official kernel? |
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| 12:44.28 | vick | wils0n__: Realtek RTL8139/810x Fast ethernet NIC |
| 12:44.33 | vick | wils0n__: Sorry for the delay. |
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| 12:44.40 | wils0n__ | it's kay |
| 12:44.45 | wils0n__ | I've got one of those actually |
| 12:44.51 | wils0n__ | you need to make sure the right driver is installed |
| 12:45.03 | streuner | !rtl8139 |
| 12:45.03 | dpkg | well, rtl8139 is a RealTek PCI NIC that uses the 8139too (new) or rtl8139 (old) driver. *not* ne2k-pci, or a piece of shit card!...but some people have had good luck with it. see also <rtl81x9.c> |
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| 12:45.24 | Eulex | vick, is it setup correctly in your /etc/network/interfaces? and can you see it with ifconfig -a? |
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| 12:45.54 | wils0n__ | you may have to install themodule if you dont see it using 'ifconfig -a' |
| 12:45.59 | Pragmatic | streuner: Do you want me to revert to a known-good kernel, you mean? I don't think a pre-made kernel would accomodate my hardware too well. |
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| 12:46.31 | vick | wils0n__: where does all the modules reside ? |
| 12:47.30 | wils0n__ | the modules reside in /lib/modules/... but you should modprobe them |
| 12:47.37 | wils0n__ | do you not see eth? in 'ifconfig -a' ? |
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| 12:47.58 | vick | wils0n__: No eth in ifconfig -a |
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| 12:48.16 | wils0n__ | try modprobe 8139too |
| 12:48.18 | wils0n__ | and then repeat |
| 12:48.19 | vick | wils0n__: But it was shown and working quite well the time before |
| 12:48.30 | wils0n__ | did you upgrade your kernel |
| 12:48.31 | wils0n__ | ? |
| 12:48.35 | vick | No |
| 12:48.52 | vick | wils0n__: i tried modprobe 8139too, and then ifconfig -a |
| 12:48.54 | vick | nothing yet |
| 12:49.02 | vick | Shouldn't i run a command in between or something ? |
| 12:49.11 | wils0n__ | try modprobe 8139cp |
| 12:49.12 | wils0n__ | and repeat |
| 12:49.27 | wils0n__ | ifconfig -a shows the interface if the kernel detects it |
| 12:49.35 | wils0n__ | is it listed in lspci ? |
| 12:49.43 | vick | i dont have lspci |
| 12:49.52 | vick | Nothing in ifconfig -a yet |
| 12:49.53 | wils0n__ | greeeeaaatt |
| 12:49.57 | wils0n__ | are you root? |
| 12:50.03 | vick | Yes. |
| 12:50.08 | wils0n__ | what do you mean you dont have lspci? is this a debian machine? |
| 12:50.15 | vick | yes it is. |
| 12:50.22 | vick | 'debian etch' |
| 12:50.34 | vick | pciutils is optional. |
| 12:50.42 | wils0n__ | oh okay |
| 12:51.01 | wils0n__ | you might want to install pciutils and then check if lspci sees the device |
| 12:51.14 | wils0n__ | that same hardware shows up fine on my machine |
| 12:51.21 | wils0n__ | i didnt have to do -anything- to get it recognized |
| 12:51.39 | streuner | Pragmatic: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 12:51.54 | wils0n__ | Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) is my hardware.. i dunno if yours is different |
| 12:51.54 | vick | wils0n__: The thing is, how do i get lspci on the machine ? |
| 12:52.03 | wils0n__ | apt-get install pciutils probably |
| 12:52.15 | vick | No network |
| 12:52.16 | vick | heh. |
| 12:52.49 | Pragmatic | ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 12:54.03 | streuner | Pragmatic: so what's wrong with an 2.6.17 official kernel? |
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| 12:55.13 | Tortanick | I've got a question, is it possible to install the 2.6 kernal from netinstall floppy disks? |
| 12:55.42 | streuner | if you i-net works you can use any kernel you want |
| 12:55.48 | streuner | s/use/install/ |
| 12:56.01 | streuner | floppy disc have 2.4.x kernel |
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| 12:56.20 | vick | wils0n__: How do i add a module so that it's loaded auto during startup ? |
| 12:56.24 | Pragmatic | streuner: I do all my work on a remote X server that doesn't work properly without NFS, and presumably also iptables. |
| 12:56.58 | incorrect | are there any tools to ease the exim4 config? |
| 12:56.59 | adamt | i found a small bug in a package - where do i report it? |
| 12:57.10 | Pragmatic | streuner: I've got a 2.6.17 from the beginning of the month. Want me to boot that? |
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| 12:57.30 | cydork | vick: add it to /etc/modules |
| 12:57.41 | Ronin | adamt: have you confirmed its a bug and if so that it hasn't already been reported? |
| 12:57.52 | streuner | Pragmatic: it would reduce the possibilties |
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| 12:58.55 | adamt | Ronin: i have no idea where to look. but "rake" should depend on "zip", which it doesn't. |
| 12:59.01 | Ronin | !bts |
| 12:59.01 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 13:00.07 | adamt | tu Ronin . and now the bug is confirmed on another debian machine ;) |
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| 13:01.17 | Ronin | i find it odd though theres no mention of deps other then ruby on the rake site, an no bugs listed regarding zip |
| 13:01.27 | Ronin | are you sure its a bug adamt :) |
| 13:02.03 | adamt | Ronin: well, rake is used to create ruby gems, and it can't create ruby gems without zip |
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| 13:04.23 | b_52Free | do somone is running bind9 ? |
| 13:04.48 | stew | b_52Free: lots of people. just ask your real question |
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| 13:05.19 | b_52Free | could some one past me in private his /etc/init.d/bind9 |
| 13:05.23 | Pragmatic | Turns out it was the kernel. Do you think the configuration could be bad? |
| 13:05.26 | b_52Free | and thanks |
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| 13:06.14 | Dark_Lord | Hi pals, I have a question - |
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| 13:06.23 | Dark_Lord | is there a way to spoof your IP on ICQ? |
| 13:06.34 | Dark_Lord | Not to hide it, but to spoof it! |
| 13:06.38 | Tortanick | tor |
| 13:06.43 | WireDDD | which kernel module has to be loaded for /dev/input/mice to work |
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| 13:06.53 | sciboy | When new packages are accepted into the main debian repository, where do they go first? |
| 13:06.54 | stew | b_52Free: if you want to restore yours. rm it, and reinstall bind9 with confmiss, "/msg dpkg confmiss". or if you still have the bind9 deb in /var/cache/apt/archives, you can extrace the init.d with dpkg -x |
| 13:06.58 | stew | WireDDD: mousedev |
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| 13:07.28 | stew | sciboy: http://incoming.debian.org |
| 13:07.34 | Dark_Lord | Hey |
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| 13:08.47 | sciboy | How long does it take to move out into the main repository? |
| 13:09.04 | Dark_Lord | is there a way to spoof your IP on ICQ? |
| 13:09.39 | stew | sciboy: all the packages in incoming are installed once per day |
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| 13:10.05 | b_52Free | stew, thanks |
| 13:10.30 | sussudio | %eat stew |
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| 13:10.44 | Maulkin | ... |
| 13:10.47 | Maulkin | ANOTHER bot? |
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| 13:11.25 | Pragmatic | streuner: X works with the old kernel. Do you think it's a problem with my configuration? |
| 13:11.26 | azeem | yes, but specialized on abuse rather than information |
| 13:11.29 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:12.06 | streuner | Pragmatic: no idea, you gave your answer yourself |
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| 13:13.07 | Pragmatic | streuner: So I'll have to wait until next month to find out, huh? Well, thanks anyways. |
| 13:13.23 | streuner | why next month? |
| 13:13.36 | Pragmatic | No fucking way I'm rebooting three times in one day. |
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| 13:17.05 | streuner | What's the # for 'ssh-askpass? |
| 13:17.14 | streuner | bugs* |
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| 13:19.16 | EEap | Does anybody knows why LILO says thats I dont have an active partition when I try to install it with Software Raid? In Debian-Installer I made a md0 device, put ReiserFs and set bootable, but LILO doesn't install |
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| 13:20.20 | XJih78 | hi again |
| 13:20.55 | XJih78 | i've tried to compile a kernel with the old config but it didn't work |
| 13:21.08 | XJih78 | still can't map the root filesystem on lvm |
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| 13:22.32 | XJih78 | it cannot find vgscan & vgchange |
| 13:23.00 | yeager | xjih78: apt-get install lvm2 |
| 13:23.51 | nomand | do players like vlc and xine use the same codecs as mplayer in order to play .wmv? |
| 13:24.07 | XJih78 | yeager, it's installed. i'm with the default kernel now |
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| 13:24.46 | XJih78 | and it works fine |
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| 13:25.54 | yeager | nomand: xine uses xine-lib and vlc has mplayer built-in.. don't know if they can use external codecs... try totem |
| 13:26.16 | yeager | xjih78: does the default kernel have lvm enabled? |
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| 13:27.31 | XJih78 | yeager, it boots fine. |
| 13:27.39 | XJih78 | im with lvm on now |
| 13:28.03 | Eclipser | erf |
| 13:28.40 | Eclipser | dpkg says fglrx should be in "contrib non-free" of etch/sid but my etch can't seem to find it :o |
| 13:29.05 | DerJamster | Eclipser: install module-assistant. see if it can find it. |
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| 13:30.07 | Eclipser | apt-cache search fglrx says nothing though |
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| 13:30.34 | DerJamster | you did an apt-get update after adding contrib and non-free to the sources.list? |
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| 13:30.40 | Eclipser | yes yes |
| 13:31.16 | DerJamster | Packages.debian.org says there isn't a fglrx package for etch. |
| 13:31.23 | Eclipser | !fglrx |
| 13:31.23 | dpkg | well, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 13:31.27 | DerJamster | it#s in unstable only. |
| 13:31.39 | Eclipser | meh |
| 13:31.44 | DerJamster | where does it say etch? :> |
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| 13:31.56 | Eclipser | umh |
| 13:32.03 | Eclipser | !ati |
| 13:32.03 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
| 13:32.06 | Eclipser | there :) |
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| 13:36.34 | fourat | hello ! |
| 13:36.45 | fourat | lpstat wont detect any printer in my network |
| 13:36.47 | fourat | ~# lpstat -p |
| 13:36.48 | fourat | lpstat: No destinations added. |
| 13:39.06 | Eulex | fourat, browse localhost:631 (or was it 637?) and add your printers. |
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| 13:40.53 | fourat | Eulex, my printers are installed on another server in my network, it's shared and i cant see them from my laptop |
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| 13:41.29 | Eulex | fourat, are you using samba to share them? |
| 13:41.36 | fourat | no |
| 13:41.54 | fourat | Server is using CUPS, and my laptop use samba |
| 13:41.57 | fourat | oops |
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| 13:42.05 | fourat | my laptop use CUPS |
| 13:42.06 | fourat | sorry |
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| 13:42.36 | Eulex | ok, you still need to add the printer in the cups settings at localhost:631 on the laptop. |
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| 13:43.58 | NsHQ | http://world3.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=38043755 |
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| 13:44.20 | fourat | Eulex, in that case, it will need the ppd files, and that's what i dont want to give |
| 13:44.49 | fourat | my printers are installed with theiur drivers on the server, i should get them working on my laptop as postscript printers |
| 13:45.11 | Eulex | fourat, afaik at least, but I'm not sure. I'm not that familiar with cups. |
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| 13:56.12 | jetscreamer | #windows is more active than this channel :( |
| 13:56.46 | De_Mon | debinites have different sleep paterns |
| 13:57.25 | jetscreamer | now.... it used to be active 24/7 before they moved to oftc or whatever |
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| 13:58.54 | lunitik_ | jetscreamer: OFTC is not that active either... |
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| 13:59.27 | jetscreamer | so i hear |
| 14:00.17 | lunitik_ | fourat: desktop? I've never gotten CUPS set up via Gnome |
| 14:00.52 | lunitik_ | fourat: should be able to set up printer on localhost:631 ... but Gnome apps never obey that ime... |
| 14:01.03 | sussi | he eh: i forgot the name of the font editor for ttf's |
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| 14:02.16 | lunitik_ | sussi: fontforge or gbdfed? apt-cache search font editor |
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| 14:02.35 | sussi | fontforge |
| 14:02.38 | sussi | thx |
| 14:02.57 | abrotman | did someone kill the spammer? |
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| 14:07.51 | stew | abrotman: who? |
| 14:07.51 | jetscreamer | no abrotman, you're still online... |
| 14:07.55 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 14:08.35 | lunitik | delayed reaction, whoa |
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| 14:10.09 | brenart | Is there a way to find out what processor is in my linux box? |
| 14:10.20 | brenart | from the CommandLine, not from opening it up :) |
| 14:10.27 | stew | brenart: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 14:10.42 | anapivirtua | Bye. |
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| 14:10.46 | brenart | stew: thanks |
| 14:11.28 | abrotman | stew: ddhuser |
| 14:11.45 | abrotman | stew: stupid "Join us as we hack the planet!" |
| 14:12.00 | stew | abrotman: onjoin? |
| 14:12.39 | abrotman | stew: eh .. maybe ... |
| 14:12.55 | abrotman | and he's registered |
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| 14:13.09 | abrotman | orafu: do NOT tell your boss you're in here! |
| 14:13.35 | abrotman | stew: i doubt anyone would target me to help hack the planet :) |
| 14:13.45 | abrotman | stew: wait .. not on join .. i was joined for a while |
| 14:14.03 | stew | abrotman: i can't find record of him speaking in the channel |
| 14:14.05 | orafu | abrotman: will not do that then ;) |
| 14:14.12 | abrotman | stew: he diudn't .. joined .. spammedl eft |
| 14:14.28 | abrotman | stew: might have been the same type as before where they take like all the 'a*' nicks and spam them |
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| 14:15.19 | abrotman | abchirk: did you get the spam from ddhuser? |
| 14:15.57 | abchirk | yes yot too? |
| 14:16.02 | abrotman | abchirk: do you still have it? |
| 14:16.11 | abchirk | hm one time he spammed |
| 14:16.19 | abrotman | right .. but you already got rid of it? |
| 14:16.22 | abchirk | yes |
| 14:16.25 | abchirk | Why? |
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| 14:16.39 | abrotman | because he apparently spammed some portion of us .. apparently a* :) |
| 14:16.41 | abchirk | and how you know that i got the spam too? :D |
| 14:16.45 | abchirk | ahh |
| 14:16.52 | abrotman | beacuse it was a guess since stew and jetscreamer didn't get it |
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| 14:18.31 | abrotman | yay for /stats p |
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| 14:20.15 | Edwin_Quijada | I installed samba anad now I get this error when trying to create account i get this |
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| 14:20.17 | Edwin_Quijada | tdb_update_sam: Failing to store a SAM_ACCOUNT for [tom] without a primary group RID |
| 14:20.17 | Edwin_Quijada | Failed to add entry for user tom. |
| 14:20.17 | Edwin_Quijada | Failed to modify password entry for user tom |
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| 14:21.19 | lunitik | Edwin_Quijada: how are you adding the user? |
| 14:21.20 | the_mug | hola friends! how can I add more IPs to say eth0? is there a directive(s) i'm supposed to write under /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:21.56 | lunitik | Edwin_Quijada: smbusradd or something is needed... |
| 14:22.14 | Edwin_Quijada | lunitik: smbpasswd -a tom |
| 14:22.27 | |dennis| | the_mug: virtual ips |
| 14:22.34 | lunitik | the_mug: you can configure like 'eth0-0' as a seperate interface... |
| 14:22.58 | lunitik | Edwin_Quijada: hmm... thats all it says about why it can't do it? |
| 14:22.59 | |dennis| | the_mug: eth0:1 ,eth0:2 so on and so forth |
| 14:23.23 | the_mug | and do this under /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:23.39 | |dennis| | the_mug: yes >> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/network.htm |
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| 14:24.04 | Edwin_Quijada | lunitik: but i can create the root account |
| 14:24.49 | stew | lunitik: doesn't seem to work for me: eth0-2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 14:24.54 | lunitik | Edwin_Quijada: I don't know... I only have a Workgroup set up here... you sure you even need a server setup? |
| 14:25.16 | lunitik | stew: you define eth0-2 in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 14:25.52 | stew | lunitik: no, that's from running: ifconfig eth0-2 172.16.0.1 |
| 14:26.05 | the_mug | stew: lunitik: I think it's eth0:1 |
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| 14:26.13 | the_mug | eth0:2... etc |
| 14:26.16 | blue_lizard | it ist ethx:x |
| 14:26.19 | the_mug | as pointed above |
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| 14:26.25 | stew | the_mug: i do too. lunitik is claiming - would work instead of : |
| 14:26.45 | the_mug | he's a lunitik :-p |
| 14:27.18 | lunitik | stew: I've seen it on Debian based distro's... (namely Linspire) ... I wasn't really sure, guess I shouldn't have said anything... |
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| 14:28.25 | Eclipser | how do I change language just for one user (X sessions and shell and whatever) |
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| 14:29.05 | Eclipser | GDM wants to change the language as system default if I choose it from there |
| 14:29.52 | lunitik | Eclipser: in KDE you can set your default language... not sure about Gnome... |
| 14:30.04 | simonrvn | yes there too |
| 14:30.17 | simonrvn | gdmsetup, or the menu |
| 14:30.39 | lunitik | simonrvn: I guess I should have reworded that too... "I'm not sure about nome" |
| 14:30.55 | lunitik | Gnome* |
| 14:32.03 | abchirk | http://nopaste.info/01a402f239.html << i get this when i want to starting mysqld...and mysql.sock dont exist in /var/run/mysqld... how i can create this? |
| 14:32.18 | simonrvn | you were understood by me, np :) |
| 14:33.13 | stew | abchirk: try running "mysqld" as root from the command line and see if a more informative error pops out about why it's not starting |
| 14:33.39 | the_mug | hey... (excuse my ignorance on the subject)... but can these 'virtual' IPs be from different subnets... since I'm declaring a netmask and gateway? |
| 14:33.57 | abchirk | /etc/mysql# mysqld |
| 14:33.57 | abchirk | mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibPfKFUR' (Errcode: 13) |
| 14:33.57 | abchirk | 060718 15:16:02 InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13 |
| 14:34.00 | abchirk | that comes then |
| 14:34.10 | abrotman | abchirk: perms on /tmp/ ? |
| 14:34.11 | the_mug | I guess as long as I have access to those gateways I should be fine? |
| 14:34.22 | lunitik | simonrvn: Gnome has a locale option in the default gnome-system-tools? I thought thats why Ubuntu came up with the Language Selector doo-hickey? |
| 14:34.37 | abchirk | hm as root i can create there |
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| 14:35.14 | lunitik | abchirk: I'd guess error number 13 is insufficient permissions... |
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| 14:35.46 | stew | the_mug: yes you can have different subnets, but you should not declare more than one default gateway in the default routing table |
| 14:36.13 | abchirk | hm ok.I thaught it is excuted by root :). i ll poost the /tmp perm |
| 14:36.13 | stew | abchirk: what does "ls -ld /tmp" return? |
| 14:36.16 | abrotman | abchirk: ls -ld /tmp/ |
| 14:36.30 | abchirk | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.30 | abchirk | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2006-07-18 15:16 /tmp/ |
| 14:36.41 | abrotman | you lost your sticky bit |
| 14:36.50 | abrotman | drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 1024 2006-07-18 06:26 /tmp/ |
| 14:36.56 | stew | abchirk: chmod 1777 /tmp |
| 14:37.02 | Eclipser | if I change language from gdm and choose "for this session only" (or something) then it won't be that language on next login |
| 14:37.08 | Eclipser | and I don't want to set it system default |
| 14:37.42 | abchirk | ahhh cool :( guys |
| 14:37.44 | abchirk | :) |
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| 14:37.51 | abchirk | thx |
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| 14:38.06 | lunitik | Eclipser: ahhh... you want a different language, for _one_ login? I don't think anything does that, no matter what, you'll likely be changing it back after logout... |
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| 14:38.16 | Eclipser | lunitik, for one user |
| 14:38.26 | mikefoo | anyone have an idea how I would go about outputting my laptop screen to a monitor? |
| 14:38.38 | mikefoo | the function button doesn't seen to work obviously. |
| 14:38.39 | nyk2005 | Where's the place to add startup command to in debian? (like /etc/conf.d/local.start in gentoo...) |
| 14:38.40 | lunitik | Eclipser: for one user... gnome-system-tools apparently has an option |
| 14:39.22 | Eclipser | I can't find it :) |
| 14:39.26 | lunitik | Eclipser: dpkg -l gnome-system-tools | grep ^ii <-- if nothing is returned... apt-get install gnome-system-tools |
| 14:39.41 | RvGaTe | !seen stoned |
| 14:39.41 | dpkg | stoned is currently on #debian (11h 8m 25s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 6h 19m 27s, last said: 'sussudio, for example <based on debian>, <debian based> etc.'. |
| 14:39.54 | Eclipser | it's installed |
| 14:40.12 | lunitik | Eclipser: and you see anything related to language or locale? |
| 14:40.26 | Eclipser | nope |
| 14:40.40 | lunitik | Eclipser: should be in Settings > Administration |
| 14:40.40 | Eclipser | well |
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| 14:40.52 | lunitik | I'd guess anyways |
| 14:41.10 | Eclipser | there's disks, login window, networking, services, shared folders, time adn date and users and groups |
| 14:41.24 | Eclipser | users and groups didn't have anything related to language or locale |
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| 14:41.33 | the_mug | stew: so there should only be ONE default gateway? I have 2 NICs connected to 2 different networks... with 2 def GWs... and I can't apt-get update when both are up... any idea why? |
| 14:42.06 | lunitik | Eclipser: I could tell you how with any Qt apps you have installed :P |
| 14:42.10 | stew | the_mug: why do you have 2 default gateways? can you actually get to the internet through either gateway? do you need to? |
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| 14:42.38 | Eclipser | lunitik, :) |
| 14:42.55 | Eclipser | lunitik, gnome-system-tools installs something in the locale directories though :o |
| 14:43.15 | the_mug | stew: I can get to the internet through both... although I could just use one huh? |
| 14:43.25 | stew | the_mug: if you need more than one default gateway you need to create more than one routing table. /msg dpkg split access |
| 14:43.25 | worstenboy | hi, a stupid question.. ive got a script just doing touch testfile, i do chmod 6777, and the file belongs to root.root, so i run it as another user and my touched file is not roots..? |
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| 14:43.59 | the_mug | stew: all I really need is access to the immediate (second) network and it's machines. |
| 14:44.00 | Eclipser | meh |
| 14:44.04 | Eclipser | system reboot... |
| 14:44.53 | blue_lizard | the_mug: if the second network is imediate you dont need an gateway |
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| 14:46.19 | the_mug | stew: blue_lizard: gotcha |
| 14:46.35 | lunitik | Hopefully they even out or something |
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| 14:48.21 | Yaakov | I am trying to install Debian using software RAID. I can create the device but when I try to format I get "failed to create filesystem". It seems to do everything up the the very end, then dies with that error. Any advice? |
| 14:48.44 | nomand | hi folks, is Skype video-phone available for Linux yet? One site mentioned that it is 'near'. When will it be, anyone? |
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| 14:49.39 | lunitik | nomand: old versions of Skype rely on OSS, which is no longer used for Linux, so is basically broken... the new Skype Linux beta will be released when its ready, and will support ALSA... |
| 14:49.53 | lunitik | nomand: other than that, contact Skype and ask |
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| 14:50.28 | lunitik | nomand: Skype is not in Debian, thus this is not the place to ask |
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| 14:50.37 | anders_ | hello |
| 14:50.43 | lunitik | anders_: hey |
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| 14:50.57 | anders_ | how do i change keyboard layout? |
| 14:51.22 | azeem | reconfigure X |
| 14:51.30 | lunitik | anders_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf can do it... you likely want to configure it via your desktop though... |
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| 14:51.38 | anders_ | i dont got xorg.conf |
| 14:51.47 | lunitik | anders_: you have to |
| 14:51.50 | anders_ | nope |
| 14:51.53 | anders_ | Xfree86 igot |
| 14:51.55 | azeem | lunitik: he's running stable |
| 14:51.57 | nomand | lunitik: i gather that it is not available yet. i was going to thank you for the info but your last line makes me mad. don't ever tell anyone what or what not to ask. it will never be taken kindly. |
| 14:52.02 | lunitik | azeem: my bad... |
| 14:52.17 | anders_ | how do i come into XFree86? |
| 14:52.20 | azeem | anders_: what desktop are you running? |
| 14:52.21 | anders_ | /etc/? |
| 14:52.27 | azeem | anders_: don't do that manually |
| 14:52.28 | anders_ | azeem: iam using xfce watm |
| 14:52.35 | anders_ | my kde was to laggy |
| 14:52.39 | anders_ | i was speaking to you before :) |
| 14:52.41 | azeem | anders_: hrm, either try to figure out whether there is an option in there |
| 14:52.56 | azeem | anders_: or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and choose a different layout when it asks you |
| 14:53.14 | lunitik | nomand: neat... Skype is closed source... not supported by Debian... I could care less if it makes you mad really... |
| 14:53.39 | nomand | lunitik: GFY. |
| 14:53.48 | anders_ | azeem: i have to restart X to get it work.._ |
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| 14:53.53 | anders_ | ? |
| 14:53.57 | azeem | yes |
| 14:53.59 | anders_ | ok |
| 14:54.00 | stew | nomand: chill out, there is no reason for you to get upset |
| 14:54.04 | anders_ | before i do that |
| 14:54.06 | anders_ | can u say the guide again |
| 14:54.07 | anders_ | to install nvidia |
| 14:54.09 | anders_ | !nvidia |
| 14:54.11 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 14:54.22 | anders_ | !nvidia one-liner |
| 14:54.24 | dpkg | methinks nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 14:54.38 | lunitik | anders_: you almost certainly don't want the one liner |
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| 14:54.46 | anders_ | i had one-liner before |
| 14:54.47 | anders_ | and it worked |
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| 14:55.02 | azeem | anders_: but you already got nvidia running, no? |
| 14:55.06 | azeem | !drxx |
| 14:55.06 | dpkg | [drxx] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 14:55.07 | anders_ | nope |
| 14:55.09 | incorrect | can a .diff be converted into a package source dpatch ? |
| 14:55.13 | azeem | anders_: no? |
| 14:55.31 | azeem | 11:04 < anders_> it worked azeem !!! |
| 14:55.37 | anders_ | yes =) |
| 14:55.42 | anders_ | but i changed from kde to xfce |
| 14:56.00 | azeem | anders_: that shouldn't matter |
| 14:56.05 | anders_ | but i formatted |
| 14:56.06 | anders_ | >P |
| 14:56.09 | azeem | oh my god |
| 14:56.19 | Ronin | heh |
| 14:56.20 | anders_ | i dont belive in god >D |
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| 14:56.35 | Ronin | oh my lack of god its trotsky |
| 14:56.41 | azeem | anders_: well, people will get annoyes if they have to repeat things to you all the time |
| 14:56.50 | azeem | anders_: so at least /msg dpkg and redo stuff yourself |
| 14:57.16 | nikkne | hi all, |
| 14:57.46 | lunitik | nikkne: hey |
| 14:57.48 | nikkne | I want to upgrade svk to 1.06 (which is in testing, I think) and subversion |
| 14:58.03 | nikkne | since our admin is too lazy |
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| 14:58.17 | psychoo | rike |
| 14:58.18 | psychoo | s |
| 14:58.19 | lunitik | nikkne: if you don't want to use testing itself... ask dpkg (the bot) about 'bpo' or 'backports' |
| 14:58.22 | rike | :) |
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| 14:59.12 | anders_ | azeem: do u know how i can upgrade my xfce? to a newer version? |
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| 14:59.34 | lunitik | anders_: Sid and Etch have beta 1 of XFce 4.4 |
| 14:59.45 | anders_ | but i got 4.0 |
| 14:59.51 | anders_ | shall i use beta u think? :O |
| 14:59.53 | azeem | anders_: why do you want to understand? |
| 14:59.56 | azeem | eh, upgrade |
| 14:59.58 | anders_ | how i upgrade? |
| 14:59.58 | Ronin | anders_: why do you NEED the latest? |
| 14:59.58 | nikkne | linitik: thanks |
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| 15:00.08 | lunitik | nikkne: you're welcome |
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| 15:00.22 | mrcoyote | Yep all |
| 15:00.28 | stew | anders_: "aptitude install xfce4" |
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| 15:00.57 | anders_ | but i have xfce4? |
| 15:01.00 | lunitik | stew: I'd bet he's running stable, I think the newest in stable is 4.0.x |
| 15:01.01 | azeem | anders_: so? |
| 15:01.01 | nikkne | well, not there :) |
| 15:01.03 | anders_ | i want to upgrade it? |
| 15:01.06 | azeem | anders_: why? |
| 15:01.09 | mille_ | Hi everyone, I am having trouble with my etch installer. It cant mount my cdrom, tried like 6-7 other distros. All have worked, Debian sarge finds it. But i want the etch. What could be the problem? |
| 15:01.13 | nikkne | svk on "regular" debian is 1.00 |
| 15:01.16 | anders_ | becouse a guy said that so i can change in my desktop |
| 15:01.22 | nikkne | I want to upgrade |
| 15:01.23 | azeem | anders_: who said that? |
| 15:01.28 | anders_ | dont know :P |
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| 15:01.49 | stew | anders_: "aptitude install xfce4" will install the latest available for you |
| 15:01.50 | anders_ | but i want to fix, when i right click on the desktop, afew things comes upp, i want to clean in there, remove/add things to that |
| 15:01.53 | mille_ | After I choose my language in the installer, it says it cant mount the cd |
| 15:01.57 | anders_ | stew: k, will it overwrite? |
| 15:02.12 | stew | anders_: "install" means "install or upgrade" |
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| 15:02.22 | anders_ | stew: i want to upgrade? |
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| 15:02.40 | anders_ | i did that u said right now |
| 15:02.43 | lunitik | anders_: /msg dpkg bpo or backports ... XFce 4.2 is in backports... thats the current stable XFce |
| 15:02.52 | XeLoN | hi, I want to learn using of firewall in Linux. So, I started to read Firewall HOWTO from tldp.org. But it says i have to compile a new kernel. Then i downloaded kernel 2.6.17-6. But i can't find CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE, CONFIG_FIREWALL.. in menuconfig. is there any patch for this? Or is the features not added to 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:02.54 | stew | < anders_> azeem: do u know how i can upgrade my xfce? to a newer version? <- that makes it sound like you want to upgrade |
| 15:03.05 | anders_ | yes |
| 15:03.06 | azeem | anders_: look, we will help you getting your keyboard work |
| 15:03.07 | anders_ | i want to upgrade |
| 15:03.15 | anders_ | azeem: my keyboard works? |
| 15:03.21 | lunitik | anders_: I just told you how... get on it |
| 15:03.25 | azeem | anders_: didn't you say your layout was wrong? |
| 15:03.31 | anders_ | azeem: i will reboot soon |
| 15:04.13 | azeem | anders_: can you please describe your problem? |
| 15:04.18 | lunitik | The new breed of Debian user is most annoying :( |
| 15:04.19 | azeem | and not random solutions |
| 15:04.27 | azeem | lunitik: hush |
| 15:04.43 | lunitik | azeem: :x |
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| 15:05.04 | anders_ | azeem: can i change files with file manager? |
| 15:05.16 | azeem | anders_: I don't understand the question |
| 15:05.17 | lunitik | cydork: anders_ wants to upgrade XFce because his keyboard layout is wrong... afaict |
| 15:05.24 | anders_ | no lunitik hahaha |
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| 15:05.36 | stew | anders_: what do you mean by "change files"? |
| 15:05.37 | azeem | anders_: is your keyboard working? |
| 15:05.41 | anders_ | yes azeem >P |
| 15:05.51 | azeem | anders_: so do you have any issues you need fixed? |
| 15:05.51 | abrotman | anders_: on one line .. please describe the problem you're having |
| 15:06.04 | anders_ | when i right click on the desktop? |
| 15:06.07 | anders_ | it comes up a meny sure? |
| 15:06.08 | azeem | hrm? |
| 15:06.17 | anders_ | Apps/Games/Network, etcetc |
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| 15:06.23 | petemc | thats 3 lines |
| 15:06.24 | azeem | anders_: ok, and? |
| 15:06.24 | anders_ | Can i edit that meny? |
| 15:06.34 | azeem | anders_: yes, but it is not easy |
| 15:06.37 | azeem | I think |
| 15:06.39 | Ronin | this is fun to watch in a sick way |
| 15:06.42 | azeem | anders_: why do you want to edit it? |
| 15:06.46 | anders_ | remove things from there |
| 15:06.49 | anders_ | that i dont need |
| 15:06.59 | azeem | anders_: remove the applications via apt-get remove or aptitude remove |
| 15:07.09 | anders_ | but i want it? |
| 15:07.11 | anders_ | aha |
| 15:07.12 | anders_ | :o |
| 15:07.12 | anders_ | pokk |
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| 15:07.22 | anders_ | ok i understand :) |
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| 15:07.45 | azeem | anders_: also, please invest a minimum of time to research your problems yourself first, before bothering the channel |
| 15:07.52 | mille_ | So no one had problems mounting their etch install cd? That´s weird |
| 15:07.52 | anders_ | ok |
| 15:08.14 | incorrect | how can i create a dpatch from a .diff |
| 15:08.15 | lunitik | mille_: I haven't tried the testing install CD |
| 15:08.20 | nightfreak | i'm missing dav_svn for apache 2, how to install it? |
| 15:08.33 | lunitik | !find dav_svn |
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| 15:08.47 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'dav_svn' returned no results. |
| 15:08.51 | mille_ | lunitik, I have and lots of distors. All works, debian sarge too. But not testing. I loose my mind soon, dont know how to make it work |
| 15:09.05 | azeem | incorrect: see other packages using dpatch for the required boilerplate |
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| 15:09.26 | lunitik | mille_: its in beta status ... just use sarge install CD and dist upgrade... |
| 15:09.31 | XeLoN | hi, I want to learn using of firewall in Linux. So, I started to read Firewall HOWTO from tldp.org. But it says i have to compile a new kernel. Then i downloaded kernel 2.6.17-6. But i can't find CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE, CONFIG_FIREWALL.. in menuconfig. is there any patch for this? Or is the features not added to 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:09.53 | nyk2005 | How can I see what runlevel I am in? |
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| 15:10.05 | lunitik | nyk2005: you're in runlevel 2 |
| 15:10.12 | cydork | lunitik: i installed etch using netinstall cd !! No probs what so ever! |
| 15:10.17 | k31th | hum if i do useradd gay-anoyying-user -G users,year7,ftp |
| 15:10.19 | k31th | Will it use the first group as the primary group ? |
| 15:10.20 | mille_ | lunitik, it took like 1 hour to isntall sarge. so something isnt working right there. my computer is brand new and really fast is shouldnt take that long, took only 10 minutes to install the base packages on my old computer and on the laptop |
| 15:10.57 | lunitik | nyk2005: 0 = shut down; 1 = single user; 2 = general debian default; 3-5 = reserved for user config; 6 = restart |
| 15:11.04 | azeem | k31th: (i) try to supress your homophobia in here, (ii) did you try? |
| 15:11.14 | cydork | mille_: try netinstall! it worked on my pc! |
| 15:11.22 | beered | Is there something happening with apt repo's latley? I get quite a few 'unverified' packages with big warnnings from apt. |
| 15:11.24 | mille_ | lunitik, do you have any idea what could be the problem? maybe my hardware is to new to sarge? so it´ll work if i dist-upgrade to testing |
| 15:11.30 | mille_ | cydork, I did! |
| 15:11.31 | nyk2005 | lunitik: cool thanks |
| 15:11.36 | mille_ | cydork, didnt work here |
| 15:11.44 | k31th | azeem: :D |
| 15:11.55 | lunitik | mille_: no idea... like I said, etch installer hasn't reached release status yet though |
| 15:11.58 | cydork | mille_: what do you mean by didn't worked? details?? |
| 15:12.01 | k31th | azeem: did i try wat? |
| 15:12.16 | incorrect | surely you only need to convert a .diff to the right dpatch format? |
| 15:12.19 | nyk2005 | lunitik: and it's ok to just add symlinks to my selfwritten /etc/init.d/ scripts into rc2.d ? |
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| 15:12.20 | azeem | k31th: the command you wrote |
| 15:12.24 | lunitik | nyk2005: right now, 2-5 on your system will all be exactly the same |
| 15:12.28 | mille_ | cydork, arch linux works. ubuntu too. But ubuntu new cd didnt work (its a live-cd). I had to grab the old one and do a server install and only instal base then dist-upgrade to the new dapper version |
| 15:12.33 | k31th | no id idnt try it yet |
| 15:12.34 | lunitik | nyk2005: that would work, yes |
| 15:12.55 | nyk2005 | lunitik: cool... so there's no debian script monitoring or managing it.. |
| 15:12.58 | mille_ | cydork, after i choose language. I get an error saying it cant mount the cd |
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| 15:13.18 | mille_ | cydork, I tried a million times but it just doest seem to work |
| 15:14.29 | lunitik | nyk2005: there are a few if you need that kind of thing... should just need 'update-rc.d' though |
| 15:14.30 | cydork | mille_: If you want to ask about ubuntu, this the last place in the universe :P |
| 15:14.44 | mille_ | lunitik, thanks thou. I used the etch installer on my other desktop and laptop too, without any problems. It great when u dont have to upgrade so many packages. But like I said, the sarge installer took like 1 hour to partion my disk and install the base. Something is wrong there... |
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| 15:15.11 | mille_ | cydork, didnt you read my post? I got ubuntu working, thats what I am using now, cuz I cant get Debian to work |
| 15:15.44 | mille_ | cydork, I dont like Ubuntu much, but atleast it works |
| 15:16.54 | lunitik | mille_: Ubuntu is simply a custom Debian... so, with some work from you, anything possible with Ubuntu is possible with Debian |
| 15:16.54 | anders_ | what is the commando to edit the desktop on xfce? |
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| 15:17.07 | azeem | anders_: did you read the documentation? |
| 15:17.15 | anders_ | what 1 |
| 15:17.15 | azeem | anders_: it's in /usr/share/doc/xfce* |
| 15:17.18 | anders_ | nope? |
| 15:17.27 | lunitik | anders_: xfdesktop isn't very configurable |
| 15:17.38 | azeem | please try to read the documentation before you ask questions |
| 15:17.56 | mille_ | lunitik, that´s why i was thinking about making a base install of sarge, and the dist-upgrade to etch. Just like I did with ubuntu, but like I said: it takes so long to instal sarge, thats my main problem. |
| 15:18.03 | anders_ | lunitik: cant i fix there? |
| 15:18.15 | anders_ | etc remove Games :p |
| 15:18.41 | lunitik | mille_: its strange.. but thats what I do... and if the etch installer isn't working either, then its likely your best option... even if it does take forever |
| 15:19.14 | lunitik | mille_: I don't actually remember your issue with etch's installer though... my memory sucks |
| 15:19.27 | cydork | anders_: check http://www.xfce.org/documentation/ |
| 15:19.43 | anders_ | I cannot open link in irssi why? :( |
| 15:19.51 | mille_ | lunitik, i guess that´s the only way to do it. I dont know, maybe my hardware is to new for sarge? I bought it last week so maybe it works better it I get testing up & running |
| 15:20.12 | Ronin | anders_: just copy and paste it then |
| 15:20.17 | mille_ | lunitik, the etch isntaller works fine on my other computers, but not on my new |
| 15:20.27 | lunitik | Ronin: you really think he has gpm or screen installed? :P |
| 15:20.32 | azeem | mille_: consider filing bug reports then |
| 15:20.41 | azeem | lunitik: he's got XFCE4 |
| 15:20.43 | Ronin | lunitik: im impressed they have anything installed |
| 15:20.44 | mille_ | azeem, ok, I will do that |
| 15:20.50 | lunitik | Ronin: haha |
| 15:20.56 | mille_ | why did I buy a Packard Bell :D |
| 15:21.14 | cydork | mille_: check this http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataAtapiHowto |
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| 15:21.20 | abrotman | because you had $2 leftover after stopping for dinner at McDs ? |
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| 15:21.31 | anders_ | why doesnt my xfce dont find: xfce4-menueditor command? |
| 15:21.47 | cydork | mille_: That should work |
| 15:22.01 | anders_ | lunitik: iam using gnome-terminal |
| 15:22.08 | mille_ | cydork, thanks a lot! |
| 15:22.21 | anders_ | :p |
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| 15:22.50 | Ronin | we all know how that word breaks down |
| 15:23.01 | azeem | anders_: gnome-terminal can open links from its context menu |
| 15:23.15 | anders_ | azeem: ?? |
| 15:23.28 | azeem | anders_: I don't understand your question |
| 15:23.33 | azeem | can you rephrase it? |
| 15:23.36 | abrotman | i don't understand him ... |
| 15:23.36 | cydork | anders_: right click on the link! |
| 15:23.43 | anders_ | yes? |
| 15:23.44 | anders_ | then? |
| 15:23.53 | abrotman | and then ... |
| 15:23.54 | azeem | "open link" |
| 15:23.58 | lunitik | azeem: /me applauds azeem's patience ... he's have been killing babies by now |
| 15:24.05 | lunitik | s/he's/he'd/ |
| 15:24.17 | Ronin | its like driving by an accident you dont want to look but cant help it |
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| 15:26.03 | abrotman | Ronin: oddly .. i've heard people describe all of #debian that way :) |
| 15:26.09 | Ronin | heh |
| 15:26.16 | anders_ | how do i update my xfce..? i got version: 4.0 now |
| 15:26.24 | azeem | anders_: I refuse to tell you |
| 15:26.25 | Serinity | Hi everyone, I try to copy recursively a directory without copying hidden files... but still, it copies hidden files, I want to avoid copying .svn and such but.... Any idea ? One of my commands is cp -Rv lib/* $1/lib/ What i don't get is I dont do nothing refering to .[^.]* or so... |
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| 15:26.45 | azeem | anders_: try to cope with your current system, updating will just lead to disaster |
| 15:26.45 | Knorrie | Serinity: rsync -> --exclude options |
| 15:27.02 | Serinity | no, I don't want to use rsync for this |
| 15:27.03 | lunitik | abrotman: haha... I still learn more here than any other channel... closely followed by #fedora |
| 15:27.10 | Serinity | but thanks |
| 15:27.18 | petemc | Serinity: i have to ask, why not? |
| 15:27.20 | abrotman | isn't #fedora the one where they kick you for foul language? |
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| 15:27.39 | dadamarder | hi |
| 15:27.40 | lunitik | abrotman: I've not been kicked for that reason... |
| 15:27.47 | abrotman | maybe it was another one ... |
| 15:27.47 | Serinity | petemc, Why would I ? If standards tools can do it, why would i depend of something else ? |
| 15:27.53 | abrotman | rsync isn't standard? |
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| 15:27.59 | lunitik | abrotman: they do tend to be more stict than some though |
| 15:28.00 | Serinity | hum |
| 15:28.04 | Knorrie | rsync is awesome |
| 15:28.12 | Serinity | It's an additionnal package |
| 15:28.13 | Ronin | abrotman: #mandriva has that rule iirc |
| 15:28.24 | Serinity | I know rsync is awesome, i use it for a lot of stuff |
| 15:28.25 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 15:28.30 | dadamarder | do I need special hardware to use wpa enctyption? |
| 15:28.34 | yang | how can i see proper letter for my language ? All i see is ??? in my xterm... ? |
| 15:28.43 | abrotman | Serinity: then use a magic combination of find and cp ? |
| 15:28.46 | Serinity | so cp can't do this ? |
| 15:28.51 | abchirk | is it important where i put a htpasswd file ? i put it on /usr/local/apache2/passwd/passwords ...? |
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| 15:28.55 | Serinity | yes, seems I'll have to |
| 15:29.02 | Serinity | strange cp doesn't handle this |
| 15:29.03 | lunitik | abrotman: #fedora does have "someones kids might be listening" or something, but its not really enforced so long as you don't cuss repeatedly |
| 15:29.05 | Bartsk8 | I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ? |
| 15:29.10 | stew | ugh, i'm going to have to go out and buy a usb network card today |
| 15:29.24 | abrotman | stew: eh .. why? |
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| 15:29.37 | stew | abrotman: the onboard one on this machine just doesn't wanna work |
| 15:29.39 | abrotman | abchirk: most will say to not put it where apache can reach it |
| 15:29.44 | abrotman | stew: but USB? |
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| 15:29.51 | abchirk | yes..tehre cannot apache reach it ;) |
| 15:29.53 | anders_ | how do i come into te Desktop settings in xfce? |
| 15:29.55 | stew | abrotman: this machine doesn't have a pci bus at all, just usb |
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| 15:30.10 | Ronin | anders_: try #xfce |
| 15:30.10 | dadamarder | hi |
| 15:30.30 | lunitik | anders_: seriously dude... search google, read docs... you're not following anyones advice, so no one will help you |
| 15:30.34 | stew | abrotman: no pci, no pcmcia |
| 15:30.38 | k31th | there no limit to the number i can give a group is there for example i coulf give a gid of 120000 if i wanted? |
| 15:30.42 | dadamarder | do i need special hardware if i want to use wpa encryption? |
| 15:30.44 | abrotman | Ronin: tell stew about rube goldberg install |
| 15:30.46 | Knorrie | Serinity: perhaps it's by design that the complexity of the cp command is somehow limited, you can however try to use some pipe-tricks, like find blah -print0 | sed foo | grep bar | etc... | xargs cp bla1 bla2 |
| 15:30.50 | stew | abrotman: the install is done |
| 15:30.57 | cydork | anders_: check this http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 15:30.59 | abchirk | Ok and then i putted a .htaccess file into a directory..but i can stil open it..?i wanted to have passwd auth for that dir |
| 15:31.02 | abrotman | stew: what is this thing? |
| 15:31.08 | abrotman | stew: is this an ARM box? |
| 15:31.16 | Serinity | Knorrie, I'll do that |
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| 15:31.25 | stew | abrotman: olpc: wiki.laptop.org |
| 15:31.49 | abrotman | stew: how'd you get one? |
| 15:31.49 | stew | abrotman: the wireless card that it has is really cool... in theory, but doesn't work yet |
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| 15:31.50 | MatBoy | !moo |
| 15:31.50 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 15:31.56 | mille_ | cydork, thanks for the link. didnt work thou |
| 15:32.01 | abrotman | stew: and there's no 10/100 ? |
| 15:32.16 | abrotman | stew: the marvell card? |
| 15:32.18 | stew | abrotman: a client of mine, the one that we write the MUA for african communities, he knows some people and is trying to get his mua considered |
| 15:32.32 | abrotman | ah |
| 15:32.34 | stew | abrotman: no 10/100, just the marvell usb wifi card |
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| 15:32.44 | abrotman | it's marvell usb wifi? |
| 15:32.49 | abrotman | it's not .. integrated ? |
| 15:32.56 | yang | how can i see proper letter for my language ? All i see is ??? in my xterm... ? In KVIRC I can make letters but my xterm doesnt show any ? |
| 15:33.03 | abrotman | stew: ndiswrapper! |
| 15:33.22 | stew | abrotman: its an integrated marvel usb wifi. its soldered on. it does some cool stuff like it will relay ad-hoc packets when the machine is turned off (in theory) |
| 15:33.41 | stew | abrotman: and the driver is gpl even (required a firmware blob though) |
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| 15:34.11 | abrotman | stew: not very gpl :) |
| 15:34.21 | abrotman | stew: so why doesn't it work? |
| 15:34.24 | stew | abrotman: as gpl as ipw2200 i guess |
| 15:34.32 | abrotman | or most other 11g drivers :) |
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| 15:34.39 | sladegen | yang: man xterm, the -fn option... try xfontsel for them names. |
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| 15:34.56 | nedhelp | hallo, can i use my clamav to protect my windows box? |
| 15:35.06 | Ronin | nedhelp: depends |
| 15:35.11 | SlayerXP | nedhelp: yes, you have our permission to do so |
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| 15:35.30 | lunitik | SlaperXP: so kind of you :P |
| 15:35.39 | Maulkin | SlayerXP: Helpful as usual :) |
| 15:35.41 | nedhelp | how do i do that? do i need to open some ports? or what.. |
| 15:35.54 | lunitik | nedhelp: read the docs |
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| 15:36.09 | abchirk | EHE |
| 15:36.40 | nedhelp | just confused,.. not stated in their doc. file. |
| 15:36.53 | abrotman | nedhelp: i really doubt you need to open more ports on a windows box |
| 15:36.57 | sladegen | nedhelp: /join #clamav for all the rtfm pleasure. |
| 15:37.08 | nedhelp | is that possible? |
| 15:37.12 | stew | do usb nics with actual free linux support even exist? |
| 15:37.34 | lunitik | nedhelp: basically, you want a mail server on your box to process all mail to your network, and have that set up to use clamav, and have users get mail that makes it through filters through said mail server |
| 15:37.42 | cydork | stew: never heard of any!! |
| 15:37.45 | abrotman | stew: free as in totally open .. or just free ? |
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| 15:38.00 | stew | abrotman: something where i don't have to use ndiswrapper |
| 15:38.07 | abrotman | yes they exist |
| 15:38.20 | nedhelp | yap, but i want a client a antivrii, pointing to linux server. |
| 15:38.35 | lunitik | stew: prism2-usb is in stock kernels, and supports my Mom's USB wireless NIC |
| 15:38.46 | stew | prism would be great |
| 15:39.08 | abrotman | stew: prism54.org .. madwifi.sf.net .. i think they both list USB devices |
| 15:39.43 | Ronin | sweet mog, forcast if calling for winds in excess of 100k |
| 15:39.49 | abrotman | !wireless |
| 15:39.50 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless |
| 15:40.02 | abrotman | stew: short of those two .. i'd check that URL |
| 15:40.09 | heh_v_water | the madwifi usb compatibility is limited to say the least, prism is the best way to go for that |
| 15:40.12 | stew | thanks! |
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| 15:40.47 | yang | sladegen: i tried to use encoding Central European ISO 8859-2 and UNICODE utf-8 , and still i dont see letters only two i see the others are blank |
| 15:41.07 | heh_v_water | also check the zd1211 chipset although i don't know if the debian package supports it, zydas has sources you can compile with usb support |
| 15:41.14 | Stevie-O | howdy |
| 15:41.26 | Stevie-O | ! |
| 15:41.30 | sladegen | yang: perhaps wrong keyboard map.... |
| 15:41.31 | abrotman | go to work! |
| 15:41.37 | Stevie-O | who, me? |
| 15:41.41 | roxy_ | using wengophone, people I call can't hear me. Apparently it is coming from my alsamixer setting. Could someone be kind enough to look at it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Zra6210.html and tell me if something is obviously wrong ? |
| 15:41.52 | Stevie-O | I am at work, trying to painfully use ircII |
| 15:42.02 | Stevie-O | it keeps saying "Help?" |
| 15:42.25 | Stevie-O | Anyway, that's not my problem. My problem is that I have a laptop that won't boot... it hangs on "Waiting for root filesystem" |
| 15:42.28 | heh_v_water | thats prism i believe |
| 15:42.30 | sladegen | yang: if you want lat2 try 'xterm -fn -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-2' |
| 15:42.41 | lunitik | heh_v_water: yes... prism2-usb as already stated ;) |
| 15:42.50 | Stevie-O | ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
| 15:43.09 | heh_v_water | they sell these cheap little usb donglers on ebay, they're all over the place on there, they use prism |
| 15:43.13 | lunitik | Stevie-O: shitty... guess what |
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| 15:43.28 | Stevie-O | what? |
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| 15:43.41 | lunitik | Stevie-O: got your installer disc's handy? |
| 15:43.41 | sladegen | yang: also 'man xrdb' raw X is configurable but not thru gui. |
| 15:43.47 | Stevie-O | Why? |
| 15:44.06 | Stevie-O | (telling me just what it is that's gone wrong would be more helpful) |
| 15:44.16 | lunitik | Stevie-O: because apparently, unless you're pointing grub at the wrong device, you messed up partitioning and need to reinstall |
| 15:45.10 | lunitik | Stevie-O: We can't guess at your partition setup... but obviously / isn't on /dev/hda1 ... |
| 15:45.23 | lunitik | Stevie-O: or /boot |
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| 15:45.30 | heh_v_water | Stevie-O, that coul dbe caused by a new kernel with no initrd image as well |
| 15:46.27 | lunitik | Stevie-O: I'm assuming this is directly after install... I shouldn't assume things... try booting an old kernel again if there are more around |
| 15:46.39 | Stevie-O | trying that now... |
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| 15:47.35 | Stevie-O | and that's not working so well, either. meh. |
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| 15:48.30 | lunitik | Stevie-O: booting another kernel isn't working? hmm... you're sure your bootable partition is /dev/hda1 ? |
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| 15:49.39 | heh_v_water | Stevie-O, has the machine ever booted before? |
| 15:49.48 | opee2 | HELP- Can someone advise the best way to check for a compromise of Debian 2.6.8? |
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| 15:50.42 | heh_v_water | lunitik, totally.. maybe if it's never booted it requires some sort of driver for the hdd |
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| 15:51.00 | Tortanick | question: if I want to copy files to a hard disk, then install from them, what files do I need? (netinstall) |
| 15:51.08 | Tortanick | (kenal 2.6) |
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| 15:51.53 | dbe | Hi heh_v_water. |
| 15:52.10 | heh_v_water | dbe, morning |
| 15:52.20 | dbe | heh_v_water, You said my name =). |
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| 15:52.29 | anders__ | how do i upgrade my xfce from 4.0 to 4.2? |
| 15:52.41 | heh_v_water | dbe, I did? |
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| 15:52.51 | lunitik | anders_: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 15:53.00 | trym|work | I need to do a mknod at startup.. where would the correct place to put it be? |
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| 15:53.04 | arno_nym | hello everybody |
| 15:53.15 | balou | is there somewhere documentation whats on debian dvd1 and dvd2? |
| 15:53.39 | lunitik | balou: if you have a decent net connection, you likely really don't want that |
| 15:53.50 | heh_v_water | dbe, ahh my terrible spelling did hehe |
| 15:53.50 | jair | hello guys, where I can tell debian to start o not to start a process from the boot? |
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| 15:54.04 | jair | I though that was on the "init.d"? |
| 15:54.06 | lunitik | balou: unless you have needs for things like ndiswrapper, dvd1 will be more than enough though |
| 15:54.42 | jair | I want to have Debian run the command ntpdate -s "url or IP" of ntpserver |
| 15:55.08 | dbe | heh_v_water, I'm just bored. |
| 15:55.14 | lunitik | jair: apt-cache search sysv conf ... there are a few options... recommended is sysv-rc-conf |
| 15:55.15 | jair | But I need that the system run that constantly, but I think it should be a better way that place a cron schedule for it. |
| 15:55.20 | heh_v_water | dbe, HA! :P |
| 15:55.27 | dbe | heh_v_water, Ignore what I just said =). |
| 15:55.31 | jair | lunitik: what that will do? |
| 15:55.36 | lunitik | jair: if you installed ntpdate... it should automatically be added to your boot process |
| 15:55.43 | opee2 | hello everyone |
| 15:55.51 | balou | lunitik, the dvd will be sent to africa... they have only modem connections down there... |
| 15:55.53 | jair | lunitik: i think is an option of the debian system where I can see what is starting at |
| 15:55.54 | lunitik | jair: let you configure runlevel options |
| 15:56.01 | jair | "start up" time |
| 15:56.08 | dbe | heh_v_water, Message me if you want comparsion of free softwares or something. |
| 15:56.21 | jair | lunitik: where can I see the settings? |
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| 15:56.31 | jair | on the "/etc/init.d"? |
| 15:56.38 | lunitik | balou: dvd1 should be more than enough... |
| 15:56.43 | balou | ok |
| 15:56.59 | lunitik | jair: you need one of those tools ... else yes, look in that dir... if you add things... update-rc.d |
| 15:57.09 | jair | lunitik: I wanted to understand where is the file that tell the system what will start at boot. |
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| 15:57.25 | heh_v_water | jair look in the rc. folders |
| 15:57.27 | lunitik | jair: /etc/init.d is the place |
| 15:57.48 | lunitik | heh_v_water: /etc/rc#.d is obsolete... only there for compatibility reasons |
| 15:58.15 | heh_v_water | lunitik, interesting I didn't know that |
| 15:58.16 | jair | lunitik: perfect and If I do not want the "ntpd" server running at boot? I want that one stoped. I want to run the client ntpdate at boot, that one looks to wrok so far. |
| 15:58.42 | lunitik | jair: you'll note /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists... thus its already added to the start up process |
| 15:58.53 | opee2 | HELP- Can someone advise the best way to check for a compromise of Debian 2.6.8? |
| 15:59.17 | lunitik | jair: easiest way for that is via sysv-rc-conf as I said |
| 15:59.18 | balou | opee2, chkrootkit would be a good starting point |
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| 15:59.36 | stew | opee2: you mean you think you have been compromised, but you are not sure? |
| 15:59.40 | balou | opee2, why do you think your system is compromised? |
| 15:59.50 | opee2 | balou: I have run a check for rootkit and it comes back clean |
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| 16:00.24 | stew | opee2: you might also try debsums. but realize that a clever attacker could have replaced /var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sum so you should consider checking those against a known source |
| 16:00.50 | opee2 | balou: I am logging in from my blackberry to webmin and its not showing login from my blackberry IP address but I am connected... it seems the logs are not reporting all logins |
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| 16:01.45 | balou | is your disk full? |
| 16:02.03 | zenwryly | Has anyone else lost all their bitlbee accounts due to a recent apt-get upgrade? |
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| 16:02.25 | jair | lunitik: thank you I will check couple of things here |
| 16:02.35 | opee2 | balou: have plenty of free space |
| 16:02.56 | jair | heh_v_water: thank you i will check that |
| 16:03.05 | Hoxzer | :/ how many square metres opee2 ? |
| 16:03.15 | opee2 | lol |
| 16:03.15 | anapivirtua | re |
| 16:03.25 | Tortanick | I want to instal debian from my hard drive, where do I get the correct vmlinuz & initrd.gz file for that? (kernal 2.6) |
| 16:03.53 | opee2 | stew: that was debsums? |
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| 16:04.26 | trym|work | I need to do a mknod at startup.. where would the correct place to put it be? |
| 16:04.48 | arno_nym | Bye |
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| 16:04.51 | stew | opee2: i didn't understand your question |
| 16:05.04 | stew | trym|work: do you have udev installed? |
| 16:05.20 | opee2 | stew: the file you said to check against was debsums? |
| 16:05.26 | trym|work | stew: yup |
| 16:05.40 | opee2 | no such file... hum? |
| 16:05.47 | stew | opee2: run "debsums" |
| 16:05.49 | trym|work | links.conf ? |
| 16:06.09 | stew | trym|work: then don't run mknod, but configure udev to do what you need it to do |
| 16:06.44 | cydork | Tortanick: check http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/debian/crossinst/ |
| 16:07.11 | Yaakov | I am trying to install Debian using software RAID. I can create the device but when I try to format I get "failed to create filesystem". It seems to do everything up the the very end, then dies with that error. Any advice? |
| 16:07.18 | trym|work | stew: in links.conf right? would this be correct syntax? mknod /etc/percsnmp/megasnmp c 254 0 -> M /etc/percsnmp/megasnmp c 254 0 |
| 16:07.27 | Yaakov | "to the" |
| 16:07.29 | trym|work | sorry D |
| 16:07.32 | trym|work | not M |
| 16:08.30 | Tortanick | thanks cydork |
| 16:08.48 | Stevie-O | great |
| 16:08.48 | stew | trym|work: i don't know about the links.conf file. its not documented. you are trying to create a device node in /etc !?! |
| 16:08.51 | Stevie-O | I have a corrupt journal |
| 16:09.00 | Stevie-O | anybody know how to make e2fsck ignore the journal? |
| 16:09.09 | trym|work | stew: Yes unfortunately.. I have to due to the closed source percagent (snmp agent) |
| 16:09.12 | trym|work | it expects it to be there |
| 16:09.17 | trym|work | so basically, I have no choice |
| 16:09.26 | trym|work | blame dell ;) |
| 16:09.37 | petemc | trym|work: isnt there some updated, open perc monitoring software? |
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| 16:09.50 | stew | trym|work: and is this the same as some other /dev entry that gets created for you? |
| 16:09.57 | lunitik | Stevie-O: you can convert it to ext2 ... read up on how to do that... I'd advise against it though |
| 16:10.06 | trym|work | petemc: no open software, no |
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| 16:10.12 | petemc | trym|work: i believe there is |
| 16:10.19 | petemc | recently released |
| 16:10.19 | Tortanick | that won't work. I need to install debian on the same partition |
| 16:10.20 | trym|work | stew: I dont think any dev entries are made for this device |
| 16:10.20 | jair | lunitik: how do I suppourte to run or start the sysv-rc? |
| 16:10.43 | trym|work | petemc: I have just seen the complete management solution dell offers (which only runs on rhel or suse enterprise shit) |
| 16:10.49 | JordiGH | How can I fill in a pdf form interactively? I found pdftk, but it seems to have a cryptic command-line interface which I'm not sure even does what I want it to do. |
| 16:10.55 | lunitik | jair: man sysv-rc-conf :/ |
| 16:11.14 | trym|work | petemc: Sounds interesting.. I would be happy for a link if you have one.. Ive been googling quite a bit |
| 16:11.15 | stew | trym|work: but wait. if this is in etch, why can't you just mknod once and be done. if you mknod in /etc/ it shouldn't be removed when you reboot |
| 16:11.19 | lunitik | jair: maybe sysvconfig is better for you? |
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| 16:11.23 | jair | if I install ntpdate and I run it one tike, I get the clock synchornized if I reboot the machine the update of the clock will be runned (ntpdate) at the start up? |
| 16:11.25 | trym|work | stew: this is sarge |
| 16:11.34 | lunitik | jair: sysvconfig is more basic to use |
| 16:11.34 | g333k | Hi, where can I get the list of the official repositories? |
| 16:11.40 | stew | trym|work: shouldn't make a difference at all |
| 16:11.44 | stew | g333k: /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 16:12.02 | trym|work | stew: Well it wasn't there when I rebooted.. I could of course be mistaking.. |
| 16:12.04 | JordiGH | g333k: packages.debian.org? |
| 16:12.32 | lunitik | JordiGH: he said mirrors... so you provide him with a link to searching packages? huh |
| 16:12.35 | g333k | stew, I think that apt-setp is not longer avaiable |
| 16:12.50 | stew | g333k: /msg dpkg apt-setup ; /msg dpkg base-config |
| 16:12.50 | JordiGH | lunitik: Said repositories. I thought he meant the list of packages. |
| 16:13.16 | g333k | somebody should update dpkg's info |
| 16:13.22 | stew | g333k: why? |
| 16:13.25 | jair | lunitik: I got it with teh command sysv-rc-conf |
| 16:13.30 | stew | g333k: which info is out of date? |
| 16:13.31 | JordiGH | g333k: dpkg updates info each time you run an info command. |
| 16:13.35 | JordiGH | !info emacs21 |
| 16:13.37 | cydork | g333k: check http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 16:13.37 | trym|work | petemc: found any links ? |
| 16:13.38 | dpkg | emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-6 (sid), Packaged size: 1996 kB, Installed size: 5904 kB |
| 16:13.51 | stew | JordiGH: i think he's talking about the mirrors factoid |
| 16:14.05 | lunitik | stew: base-config no longer exists in etch and on... now is base-files afaik |
| 16:14.08 | stew | g333k: apt-setup is still the recommended way in debian stable |
| 16:14.08 | jair | lunitik: now, I am sorry about this ignorant question, but what run level the debian sarge runs by default? "s" or "1"? or which one? |
| 16:14.10 | JordiGH | I'm just full of confusion today. :-/ |
| 16:14.10 | g333k | stew, apt-setup |
| 16:14.23 | lunitik | jair: 2 |
| 16:14.30 | g333k | stew, ohhhh well in testing is not longer avaiable |
| 16:14.52 | jair | lunitik: ok cool |
| 16:14.59 | stew | !mirrors =~ s#apt-setup#apt-setup if you are running sarge# |
| 16:14.59 | dpkg | stew: that doesn't contain 'apt-setup' |
| 16:15.23 | stew | !debian mirrors =~ s#apt-setup#apt-setup if you are running sarge# |
| 16:15.23 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 16:15.51 | stew | dondelelcaro: ^^ did my patch for updating redirected factoids get lost? |
| 16:15.52 | lunitik | stew: maybe you mean apt-spy instead of apt-setup? (writes sources.list based on fastest mirror) |
| 16:15.57 | jair | so then Linux and most of the other distros run by default on level two? (2)? |
| 16:16.00 | JordiGH | Oh, cool, dpkg understands Perl regexps? /me takes notes. |
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| 16:16.00 | stew | lunitik: no, i meant apt-setup |
| 16:16.36 | JordiGH | jair: Each distro does whatever the hell it wants with runlevels 2-5. Only 0,1 and 6 have standard behaviour across distros. |
| 16:16.41 | stew | !debian mirrors is also ask me about <apt-spy> |
| 16:16.41 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 16:16.48 | lunitik | stew: yeah... whoever said apt-setup isn't in etch or sid is correct... why show them something that will be obsolete in 6 months? |
| 16:17.08 | stew | lunitik: becuase its still the currently recommended way |
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| 16:17.35 | kilai | Is there a way i can do a clean remove of an apt-get package? Initially cvs prompts questions, but upon removing / reinstalling it no longer prompts. apt-get clean does not do it sufficently enough it seems |
| 16:18.07 | JordiGH | kilai: apt-get clean only removes the .deb files in /var/apt/cache. Do you want to uninstall a .deb package? |
| 16:18.12 | lunitik | stew: apt-spy is likely what he wants anyways... likely he already has apt setup... just wants faster mirrors |
| 16:18.14 | stew | kilai: dpkg-reconfigure packagename |
| 16:18.35 | kilai | maybe apt-get remove --purge PACKAGE |
| 16:18.37 | kilai | ? |
| 16:18.51 | lunitik | stew: I see you pointed the mirrors factoid at apt-spy anyways, so I'll shush :) |
| 16:18.55 | stew | lunitik: he asked for a list of mirrors. apt-spy wouldn't give him a list of mirrors |
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| 16:19.31 | JordiGH | So, filling in pdf forms? Anybody? |
| 16:19.38 | jair | JordiGH: but it s a logical explanation why, when i run the ntp-server deamon I get the time sightly correct and when I stope it and use the command "ntpdate -s "serverntpinternalnetwork"" the time get prefectly accurrate? |
| 16:19.40 | lunitik | stew: I'm guilty of that too... helping based on wording, rather than likely actual question |
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| 16:21.15 | JordiGH | jaird: Sorry, I didn't understand the problem. The time is slightly correct one way and perfectly accurate the other way? That is, the two times differ? |
| 16:22.06 | opee2 | stew: is it normal to have this "no md5sums for kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386" |
| 16:22.28 | jair | JordiGH: kind of, when i run the ntp-server the time gets close to the rest of the other machines but not accurate couple of minutes behind. |
| 16:22.30 | roxy_ | mc is not on a base debian install. What would be the default dir browser then ? |
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| 16:22.42 | stew | roxy_: ls |
| 16:22.52 | lunitik | jair: don't use ntp-server ... use ntpdate only |
| 16:23.04 | balou | jair, ntp sets the clock very slowly. it is generally advisable to first run ntpdate, then ntp |
| 16:23.11 | lunitik | jair: ntp-server is for setting other machines to that machines time... |
| 16:23.12 | jair | JordiGH: when I stop the "ntp-server" deamon and I run the command "ntpdate -s "url or ip" ntp server. the time gets perfectly the same. |
| 16:23.19 | shining | lunitik: did you see my message about cdrecord last time? |
| 16:23.21 | balou | lunitik, no it isnt |
| 16:23.37 | JordiGH | jair: Listen to what the others are saying. They seem to know more about ntp servers than I do. |
| 16:23.38 | jair | lunitik: but I want to know why I get this problem when both are ntps? |
| 16:23.45 | stew | opee2: i'm not sure but i dont' think so. you should upgrade to 2.6.8-3 anyway |
| 16:23.47 | roxy_ | stew: I meant browser in a w3m sens, no in a wget sens :-) |
| 16:23.51 | balou | ntp cares for things such as clock drift, and it filters out wrong clocks |
| 16:23.56 | stew | roxy_: none |
| 16:24.08 | JordiGH | roxy_: aptitude install mc if you really must. |
| 16:24.14 | opee2 | anyone: is it normal to have this "no md5sums for kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386" |
| 16:24.20 | opee2 | thanks stew!!! |
| 16:24.21 | balou | jair, as I said, ntp sets the clock very slowly, if its off by several minutes, it normally takes hours |
| 16:24.37 | trym|work | If I have two adapters whos mibs say belong under .1.3.6.1.4.1.3582 - what is the usual way of solving that? Change the mibs? |
| 16:24.41 | roxy_ | stew, JordiGH: so on basic unixes I can rely only on vi ? |
| 16:24.48 | lunitik | balou: ntp-server is for server side things ... ntpdate is the client |
| 16:24.52 | balou | jair, because of this, its advisable to first set the time roughly with ntpdate, and then startin ntp |
| 16:25.08 | stew | roxy_: mc is a file browser, w3m is a web browser, vi is a text editor. what are you really after? |
| 16:25.10 | JordiGH | roxy_: There is no default editor either, I believe. |
| 16:25.26 | lunitik | JordiGH: echo $EDITOR |
| 16:25.26 | balou | lunitik, ntpdate is just an sntp client, it never sets the time as accurate as ntp-server |
| 16:25.47 | jair | lunitik: JordiGH balou thank you very much for your input guys :) |
| 16:25.48 | JordiGH | lunitik: blank on my system. |
| 16:25.55 | balou | lunitik, if you only use ntpdate once every day as most users do, time could drift by several seconds |
| 16:25.55 | lunitik | balou: it set mine correctly first time I ran it, and I was off by like 36 hours |
| 16:26.39 | balou | lunitik, depends on the ntp version, newer versions will detect huge differences and act accordingly |
| 16:27.02 | roxy_ | stew, JordiGH: I used to use emacs a lot, to file browse and edit. But I installed an app on a new server, the sys ad don't want me to install anything else than my app on the jboss. So no emacs anymore. I am learniing vi atm, was wandering what was the option for file browsing. |
| 16:27.18 | stew | JordiGH: there is a default editor. /usr/bin/sensible-editor which should check $EDITOR then default to /usr/bin/editor, which is managed by update-alternatives, and iirc defaulted to nvi on sarge and nano on etch |
| 16:27.22 | lunitik | JordiGH: ahh... 'ls -l /usr/bin/editor' ... points to '/etc/alternatives/editor' ... which in turn points to default editor (nano by default) |
| 16:27.35 | balou | older ntp versions can adjust the clock just gradually, so the clock speed is changed over several hours. ntpdate just sets a new time, as newer ntp-servers do if the difference is big enough |
| 16:27.35 | stew | roxy_: vi or maybe nano |
| 16:27.41 | lunitik | balou: using Sid here... so perhaps thats why |
| 16:27.45 | JordiGH | roxy_: Why can't you install emacs in ~/bin again? |
| 16:28.28 | lunitik | balou: using ntpdate 4.2.0[+stable-9] |
| 16:28.50 | JordiGH | roxy_: Is your home directory not chmodded to +x? |
| 16:28.56 | jair | balou: ok, so now everthing makes more sense to me. But I need to tell the system do not run "ntp-server" at start up and instead run the "ntpdate". I do that on the /etc/init.d? or rc? where :(? |
| 16:29.13 | jair | balou: I was using the sysv-rc-conf and it works nice |
| 16:29.27 | lunitik | jair: you'd do better to simply remove ntp-server imo |
| 16:29.33 | jair | balou: but i want to understand where is exactly that file I have to change |
| 16:29.39 | roxy_ | JordiGH: the sys ad said "no install other app", I didn't think much further. |
| 16:29.46 | jair | lunitik: yes I will eventually do that. |
| 16:29.50 | lunitik | jair: which would in turn remove it from your boot process |
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| 16:29.54 | balou | jair, you could just put a ntpdate command in your /etc/init.d/ntp-server, so that it sets the clock before ntp starts |
| 16:30.05 | jair | lunitik: I used the sysv-rc-conf and it works very easy and nice |
| 16:30.25 | JordiGH | roxy_: Sysadmins should only care about system-wide apps, methinks, unless space is an issue (and with Emacs, it might be). Ask if it's ok to install in your own home directory. |
| 16:30.35 | jair | lunitik: my point is that I LIKE to understand how all works on the system :) |
| 16:31.13 | jair | balou: I do not want to run "ntp-server" I just want to run the client each time the system boots. |
| 16:31.20 | JordiGH | roxy_: And what file browsing are you after that built-in bash commands can't satisfy? |
| 16:31.26 | jair | balou: the client will be the "ntpdate" |
| 16:31.34 | lunitik | jair: look at /etc/rc2.d ... all things in /etc/init.d that are ran are in there... S means start, number determines order... read the scripts to see what happens in each case |
| 16:31.48 | shining | jair: isn't that the default? |
| 16:32.01 | shining | jair: I already had ntpdate running at boot here |
| 16:32.09 | balou | ok.. then make a link to a script which contains the correct ntpdate command in /etc/rcN.d/ |
| 16:32.10 | balou | where N is your runlevel |
| 16:32.11 | shining | and it was taking 10 sec !! |
| 16:32.14 | lunitik | shining: he has ntp-server and ntpdate installed... he only wants one |
| 16:32.29 | roxy_ | JordiGH: it is more a matter of "being use to emacs". It is why I was asking for other options. I don't mind learning something new. |
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| 16:32.39 | shining | ha ok |
| 16:32.44 | shining | well I would just use rcconf then |
| 16:32.53 | shining | and choose the one you want there |
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| 16:33.13 | jair | lunitik: thank you very much |
| 16:33.17 | lunitik | shining: already directed him at sysv-rc-config ... apparently worked... he just wants to understand what it did |
| 16:33.20 | jair | balou: thank you ;) |
| 16:33.30 | jair | shining: correct |
| 16:33.43 | jair | lunitik: but the utility sysv-rc-conf works fine |
| 16:33.47 | lunitik | Uhh... sysv-rc-conf |
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| 16:34.01 | shining | isn't ntpdate slow for you? |
| 16:34.16 | jair | shining: ntpdate works great! |
| 16:34.21 | JordiGH | roxy_: Then use bash and learn commands like ls, cd, pushd, popd, locate, grep, and pipes. Play with your .bashrc and add a few convenient aliases, which only need to be uncommented in Debian (you are using Debian, aren't you?) |
| 16:34.24 | jair | better than the "ntp-server" |
| 16:34.29 | stew | roxy_: what about using emacs+tramp? |
| 16:34.32 | shining | jair: how many sec does it take? |
| 16:34.41 | shining | jair: time /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart |
| 16:34.55 | jair | shining: let me see |
| 16:35.14 | roxy_ | JordiGH: yes debian |
| 16:35.23 | roxy_ | stew: I use emacs+tramp at home |
| 16:35.24 | JordiGH | roxy_: But I insist you should negotiate with your sysadmin installing emacs in your own home directory. Ask if space or resources consumed is an issue. |
| 16:35.31 | balou | jair, just keep in mind that you probably won't even achieve an accuracy of one second. ok, it also depends how much accuracy you actually need |
| 16:35.32 | lunitik | shining: should depend on server used... usually, picking anything but the first option is about 3 seconds here.... |
| 16:36.00 | roxy_ | JordiGH: I will, I don't think space is an issue. |
| 16:36.03 | jair | balou: I need alot of accuracy ;) |
| 16:36.10 | lunitik | shining: picking ntp.0.pool.org or whatever takes foreever though (url is likely wrong..) |
| 16:36.29 | shining | lunitik: by default, the config had 4 debian servers, each taking 2 or 3 sec |
| 16:36.44 | shining | and ntpdate uses all of them.. thus around 10 sec |
| 16:36.57 | balou | best thing is if you search for some timeservers with low latency in your region |
| 16:37.01 | jair | shining: mine is using that one pool... and it works good |
| 16:37.13 | roxy_ | JordiGH: are pushd and popd on base debian ? |
| 16:37.15 | shining | yep, just using one server is much faster obviously |
| 16:37.47 | JordiGH | roxy_: Er, I believe they are built-in bash commands. |
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| 16:38.13 | lunitik | umm... I think I mean pool.3.ntp.org ... that would appear to make more sense at least |
| 16:38.16 | jair | shining: now I see what you mean :( it takes long when you run the command like that |
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| 16:38.54 | jair | shining: but if you do--> ntpdate -s "url or ip of your ntp server" it takes less that 2 secs |
| 16:39.01 | madclicker | how to add users to a group from command line? |
| 16:39.09 | shining | ntp.pool.org doesnt work |
| 16:39.15 | shining | neither ntp.x.pool.org |
| 16:39.33 | roxy_ | JordiGH: yes ,they are. Just no man page with it |
| 16:39.34 | shining | pool.ntp.org works though, and it's even slower than debian servers |
| 16:39.43 | lunitik | shining: note I corrected myself... I can run dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate again to get exact URL? |
| 16:39.48 | shining | (x.debian.pool.ntp.org) |
| 16:39.54 | JordiGH | roxy_: They're for pushing directories onto a stack and popping directories from the stack. Say you're in /home/roxy and you want to check out something in /usr/share/doc/bash. You do pushd /usr/share/doc/bash to move to that directory, and then popd will bring you back to the directory you were in. |
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| 16:40.21 | JordiGH | roxy_: And use tab-completion. I do hope you know about tab completion. :-) |
| 16:40.24 | balou | shining, try ptbtime2.ptb.de |
| 16:40.41 | shining | lunitik: doesnt work neither |
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| 16:40.53 | jair | lunitik balou shining http://rafb.net/paste/results/kdjx6K85.html this is what I got :( |
| 16:40.59 | roxy_ | JordiGH: yes, I do. Been using linux for 5+ years, just been using emacs a lot :-) |
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| 16:41.29 | trym|work | what do you do when you have two snmp agents that operate on the same location in the mib? Where I attach it to the smpd itself, I can decide myself.. but on traps.. its the agent that tells the trapd where in the mib this trap comes from, right? |
| 16:41.32 | balou | jair, which servers are specified in your /etc/init.d/ntpdate? |
| 16:41.36 | shining | the config is in /etc/default/ntpdate |
| 16:41.55 | JordiGH | roxy_: pushd and popd are documented in the bash man page. |
| 16:42.00 | shining | jair: lol |
| 16:42.05 | madclicker | how to add users to a group from command line? |
| 16:42.19 | lunitik | shining: meh... I used 3.debian.ntp.org ... and it takes forever now :( |
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| 16:42.39 | lunitik | shining: meh... I used 3.debian.pool.ntp.org ... and it takes forever now :( * |
| 16:42.43 | ttyfscker | does anyone know why my flash player isnt accessing my webcam / mic, they get detected, but they wont work. I have my flash settings to allow webcam and mic..I have tried running firefox as root just to see if the flash would access the hardware then, still no good.. anybody??? |
| 16:42.55 | jair | balou: this one --> NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org" |
| 16:43.04 | JordiGH | madclicker: groups groupname1 groupname2 user |
| 16:43.12 | Cooner750 | Hello. Getting ready to install Debian later today |
| 16:43.28 | JordiGH | Cooner750: For the first time ever? |
| 16:43.59 | balou | jair, pool.ntp.org isnt just one server, its many servers, referenced by one name. exchange it with the hostname of a time server near you |
| 16:44.07 | balou | or maybe your firewall is blocking ntp |
| 16:44.11 | madclicker | JordiGH, "groups - print the groups a user is in" ? |
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| 16:44.36 | JordiGH | madclicker: Er, yes, one moment... :P |
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| 16:45.09 | JordiGH | madclicker: usermod |
| 16:45.22 | Cooner750 | This would be my first build. Looking to get one for under $1000 |
| 16:45.27 | madclicker | JordiGH, you da bomb, thank you |
| 16:45.31 | Cooner750 | I already have CD/DVD drives, so no worry there |
| 16:45.41 | shining | balou: what do you mean? |
| 16:45.43 | jair | balou: ok |
| 16:45.46 | roxy_ | JordiGH: thanks, 2 commands I'll probably be using a lot :-) |
| 16:45.50 | shining | balou: ntpdate pool.ntp.org just shows one ip here |
| 16:45.55 | shining | balou: and it takes 5 sec |
| 16:47.34 | lunitik | shining: its a little faster here now... using 2.us.pool.ntp.org ... was editing the init script rather than the config file... any idea what a faster mirror would be for north america? |
| 16:47.50 | jair | balou: what about if we already have an internal ntp server? |
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| 16:47.57 | yopi | hello |
| 16:47.59 | JordiGH | roxy_: In that case, you might want consider aliasing the commands. alias pd='pushd', for example |
| 16:48.06 | yopi | how can I install svn? |
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| 16:48.11 | yopi | I can't find the right pkg |
| 16:48.19 | JordiGH | yopi: aptitude install subversion |
| 16:48.20 | lunitik | yopi: apt-cache show subversion ? |
| 16:48.50 | yopi | of course... thx guys |
| 16:49.01 | lunitik | shining: any idea? |
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| 16:50.10 | lunitik | jair: as for your question... the -s command you're using... throw that server into /etc/default/ntpdate and remove what you see there already |
| 16:50.11 | Zap-W | how do i find out what pam module is currently being used? |
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| 16:50.24 | Zap-W | the ones in /lib/security/ |
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| 16:52.41 | JordiGH | Let me ask again: filling in pdf forms, what software can I use? |
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| 16:55.37 | JordiGH | Is there no free software that will fill a pdf form? :-( |
| 16:57.06 | shining | lunitik: hmm no, I'm in france |
| 16:57.18 | shining | and I found a list of french servers, all fast |
| 16:57.30 | shining | so I guess there must be the same for us somewhere |
| 16:58.03 | shining | but well, if the one you found takes less than 2 sec, it's fine enough I guess |
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| 16:58.35 | anders_ | !sun-java |
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| 16:59.31 | jair | lunitik: this is the thing, if I run /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart then I do "date" command the time is not accurate. and I have on the /etc/init.d/ntpdate conf file the internal ntp server. but if I run the command on the terminal: ntpdate -s 10.20.12.12 whis is the internal ntpserver I get the time exact ;) |
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| 17:01.03 | cydork | jair: so put 10.20.12.12 in your /etc/default/ntpdate that should do it. |
| 17:01.20 | shining | jair: you shouldn't edit /etc/init.d/ntpdate |
| 17:01.37 | zspada15 | hi |
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| 17:02.23 | tonybaloney | hi everyone, where does apt put the kernel sources for 2.4.27? |
| 17:02.25 | zspada15 | im having a problem locating where apt-get install put my kernel sources and their nto in the usual place of /usr/src/linux |
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| 17:02.55 | Ronin | good lord is he trying java yet again |
| 17:02.59 | jair | lunitik: check this ;) http://rafb.net/paste/results/zFmtqT75.html |
| 17:03.27 | shining | you generally don't need to install kernel sources with debian |
| 17:03.34 | shining | it isn't installed by default |
| 17:03.38 | zspada15 | it should be |
| 17:03.46 | zspada15 | and its not in /usr/src/linux |
| 17:03.52 | shining | you may need the kernel headers for building external modules |
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| 17:04.07 | zspada15 | alsa is requiring the full sources |
| 17:04.22 | shining | zspada15: what are you talking about? |
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| 17:04.32 | poli | How do I create a /dev/sequencer with udevd? |
| 17:04.33 | shining | alsa is in 2.6 , just use that |
| 17:04.43 | zspada15 | i had 2.6 it didnt work |
| 17:04.47 | anders_ | i have downloaded sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update07_i386.deb, i wonder how i shall configure that java works at firefox? |
| 17:04.52 | zspada15 | well with my isa card at least |
| 17:05.18 | shining | zspada15: which kernel? |
| 17:05.22 | zspada15 | 2.4.31 |
| 17:05.33 | shining | zspada15: 2.6 |
| 17:05.41 | zspada15 | i mean 2.4.27 |
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| 17:06.08 | JordiGH | zspada15: Curious, is that the kernel with speakup? |
| 17:06.24 | shining | JordiGH: just do it :) |
| 17:06.24 | zspada15 | i dont think so JordiGH |
| 17:07.01 | _stev_ | any wireless built-in troubleshooters here? |
| 17:07.27 | zspada15 | _stev_: whats the problem |
| 17:07.30 | Cooner750 | Does anyone here know if Debian Netinst will work with my Belkin F5D5000 NIC? |
| 17:07.32 | JordiGH | zspada15: I suppose you would know if it did, since then the full name would be kernel-2.4.27-speakup. For some reason, it's the kernel that got installed on a bunch of my machines with a Debian sarge cd, back when sarge was still "testing". *nostalgia* |
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| 17:07.54 | zspada15 | i just downloaded and installed debian yesterday |
| 17:08.16 | zspada15 | well i heard the new testing release of debian is actually not buggy at all |
| 17:08.30 | shining | maybe it isn't anymore |
| 17:08.58 | yang | is there a nice GUI editor for .wml files? |
| 17:08.58 | JordiGH | zspada15: testing usually is more stable than its name suggests. |
| 17:09.06 | JordiGH | yang: Wesnoth markup language? |
| 17:09.09 | jair | cydork: shining balou lunitik Thank you very much guys done :) |
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| 17:09.25 | yang | JordiGH: yes |
| 17:09.29 | jair | I will create a tutorial and put it on the bot or on my wbe site |
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| 17:09.44 | jair | so people can get it really quick good and done fast ;) |
| 17:09.48 | JordiGH | yang: Doesn't the Wesnoth map editor do it? I've never used it. |
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| 17:09.59 | jair | you guys are the gurujis :) |
| 17:10.04 | anders_ | I need help to install sun-java for my mozilla-firefox, how do i do? |
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| 17:10.31 | Ronin | !install-java |
| 17:10.31 | yang | JordiGH: there are some editors that colorize html, i was wondering if there is similar for wml |
| 17:10.36 | Ronin | !java |
| 17:10.37 | dpkg | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 17:10.40 | Ronin | anders_: do that |
| 17:10.53 | anders_ | i have installed sun-java... |
| 17:11.00 | shining | any guide for free java sdk ? |
| 17:11.15 | cydork | Ronin: Dont you get tired ? :P |
| 17:11.25 | jair | anders_: very simeple: go to the web site of java.com they have the tutorial there in "instructions" manual installation and select source not the rpm :) |
| 17:11.47 | JordiGH | yang: Hm, I don't know about manually editting .wml with syntax highlighting. Perhaps an Emacs mode for wml would be nice. |
| 17:11.48 | anders_ | jair: i have downloaded i said? :) |
| 17:11.51 | Ronin | cydork: it reminds me of being at work :) |
| 17:11.59 | Ronin | only here when myhead hurts i can stop |
| 17:12.12 | yang | JordiGH: but i am not used to emacs |
| 17:12.14 | shining | it seems there isn't only one alternative, is there a place where they are all described, showing which java version is supported, and how to use them? |
| 17:12.25 | cydork | Ronin: :P |
| 17:12.26 | jair | anders_: ok then do this to the file chmod +x= filename |
| 17:12.43 | JordiGH | yang: I think you should be asking #wesnoth-dev instead. They probably would know better than we. :-) |
| 17:12.49 | jair | come on anders_ the instructions are there let me gte the url for you |
| 17:13.23 | jair | anders_: http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting |
| 17:13.46 | jair | anders_: follow the example with the source file, extract, and then create the symbolic link |
| 17:13.52 | zspada15 | i shall brb |
| 17:14.30 | _stev_ | zspada15: to make it easier http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18280 |
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| 17:15.17 | JordiGH | K, so I get it. If I want to fill forms with pdftk, I need to create an FDF file to feed to pdftk. Now, wtf is an FDF file, and more importantly, how do I create one? Ok, never mind, the first question I know. It's an Adobe Acrobat Forms Data Format, but the second? |
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| 17:16.20 | Cooner750 | I'll need Java after I install Debian so I can run Wildfire Jabber Server. Package name for java? |
| 17:16.33 | Ronin | !tell Cooner750 about java |
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| 17:17.00 | Zap-W | how do i find out what pam module is currently being used? |
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| 17:18.27 | _stev_ | wireless problem output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18280 |
| 17:18.37 | Cooner750 | I'm talking about the JRE, not SDK |
| 17:18.55 | jair | cydork: did you get my msgs? |
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| 17:22.05 | JordiGH | Er, is this possible? pdf2ps complains that the file doesn't conform to Adobe's PDF specification, but the file was produced with Acrobat Distiller 7.0 for Windows. How very odd. Adobe doesn't follow its own specification? |
| 17:23.20 | anders_ | jair: i have followed your guide, its still not work |
| 17:23.59 | Cooner750 | Can Debian be configured to boot from USB? |
| 17:24.06 | JordiGH | Aha! flpsed! Looks like this is what I can use, after converting the pdf to ps. |
| 17:24.22 | Cooner750 | I'd guess I would have to edit init so the USB modules load before the kernel, correct? |
| 17:25.39 | cydork | Cooner750: yes! |
| 17:25.46 | anders_ | Java support is currently not activated for this browser. it says so when i shall open a java program, how do i fix that? |
| 17:26.01 | cydork | Cooner750: huh?? |
| 17:26.12 | JordiGH | Cooner750: I think you'd be on your own for creating a bootable Debian USB... good luck! |
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| 17:27.48 | internetter | hello i need help with ubuntu and i cant get onto the ubuntu channel |
| 17:28.10 | LoRez | internetter: try, try again |
| 17:28.20 | stew | internetter: "/msg chanserver access #ubuntu list" will get you a list of #ubuntu channel ops, /msg one of the ops there for help |
| 17:28.21 | internetter | i got banned for asking a question 3 times |
| 17:28.27 | Ronin | heh |
| 17:28.40 | stew | internetter: /msg chanserv that should have been. you'll have to work it out with the op that banned you then |
| 17:28.58 | stew | internetter: its not something we could help you with here, however |
| 17:29.04 | cydork | Cooner750: try this http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 |
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| 17:29.15 | internetter | its a pretty basic thing and ubuntu is debian based i believe |
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| 17:29.42 | stew | internetter: no we don't support ubuntu here, only debian |
| 17:29.51 | internetter | ok sorry someone directed me here |
| 17:30.21 | Eulex | stew, well, as he got banned from #ubuntu, we could at least give him a go and let him ask the question, right? |
| 17:30.25 | LoRez | internetter: looks more like you were banned for spam-repeating in there. |
| 17:30.49 | internetter | yeah i asked a question 3 times and still got no answer |
| 17:31.00 | stew | Eulex: we don't support ubuntu |
| 17:31.01 | LoRez | so you started spamming? bad response. |
| 17:31.12 | internetter | no i got banned for asking 3 times |
| 17:31.20 | Cooner750 | I think I will setup my install in this order: Debian first + plus needed packages, Xfce + dependencies, Apache, MySQL and PHP, and last Java and Wildfire and other stuff like Firefox and Gaim |
| 17:31.23 | LoRez | I'm in the channel, don't try and lie to me. |
| 17:31.28 | JordiGH | And English is based on Latin and Celtic. Your point? |
| 17:31.34 | Cooner750 | Forgot GDM in there, before Xfce |
| 17:31.37 | internetter | said 1 time *no answer* said another *no answer* sand a third time *no answer* *ban* |
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| 17:32.06 | Cooner750 | I always disliked the ubuntu channel. There are just too many people, if that's possible. It makes it really hard to get an answer |
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| 17:32.39 | zspada15 | i updated my kernel and alsa still will not like to work |
| 17:33.25 | JordiGH | Cooner750: You got anything against xdm? :P |
| 17:33.42 | stew | zspada15: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:33.51 | Cooner750 | Yea, it dosent look very attractive lol |
| 17:34.19 | JordiGH | But Xfce does? I'll never understand people's preferences. |
| 17:34.59 | Cooner750 | I personally prefer either Xfce or Gnome, KDE I never really liked that much |
| 17:35.04 | zspada15 | stew: 2.6.8-3-686 |
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| 17:35.33 | stew | zspada15: have you read "/msg dpkg alsa one-liner" ? |
| 17:35.37 | JordiGH | Cooner750: Fair enough. De gustibus, etc. |
| 17:35.46 | zspada15 | stew: no |
| 17:35.50 | jade | for imaging a filesystem, is there any sense in taking an image of /sys? these seem to be dependent on the hardware, not so much on the OS configuration which is what im trying to capture. |
| 17:35.51 | stew | !alsa one-liner |
| 17:35.51 | dpkg | i heard alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 17:36.11 | zspada15 | thanks |
| 17:36.16 | Cooner750 | Does Debian include a text editor like vim? Or do I need to install it aswell/ |
| 17:36.17 | Cooner750 | ? |
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| 17:36.37 | Ronin | Cooner750: it has several |
| 17:36.44 | JordiGH | Cooner750: I believe vi is there by default. Not sure about vim. Nano is the default in etch, as I recently discovered. |
| 17:36.45 | johnga1t | anyone know of a good way to make an exact image of a machine's primary drive (to, perhaps, a target drive w/ different geometry) |
| 17:36.45 | johnga1t | ? |
| 17:36.46 | stew | !alsa one-liners is also some applications don't know how to talk directly to alsa, so "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and "echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules" to provide the oss compatibility layer |
| 17:36.47 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 17:37.06 | JordiGH | johnga1t: dd will do it. gparted can be a good graphical frontend for dd. |
| 17:37.24 | Zap-W | Cooner750: install , you install nothing in debian |
| 17:37.28 | _stev_ | any wireless troubleshooter here in debian-land? |
| 17:37.30 | Zap-W | apt-get install package isn't install |
| 17:37.33 | Cooner750 | Apparently sun-java5-jre is available in unstable/non-free |
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| 17:37.52 | JordiGH | Zap-W: Eh? What's with the semantics? |
| 17:38.17 | Zap-W | semantics? |
| 17:38.23 | johnga1t | JordiGH: even if drive geometries are different? |
| 17:38.32 | JordiGH | Zap-W: How is apt-get install not install? |
| 17:38.37 | johnga1t | JordiGH: just something like dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ? |
| 17:39.03 | JordiGH | johnga1t: If drive geometries are different, I would personally place my faith in gparted. :P |
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| 17:39.30 | mateuszk | Hi |
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| 17:39.45 | JordiGH | johnga1t: I'm pretty sure dd could do it, but I'd be afraid of mucking up the command-line arguments myself. |
| 17:40.13 | zspada15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.24 | Cooner750 | I havent been able to figure out my issues with MySQL yet in Ubuntu so i decided to just install Debian and start from there, using only what I need |
| 17:40.25 | beardy | Have I missed anything? |
| 17:40.28 | zspada15 | doesnt exist |
| 17:40.36 | mateuszk | I get Association request to the driver failed with wpa_supplicant -w -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 17:40.40 | mateuszk | any help ? |
| 17:40.44 | stew | zspada15: what are you trying to do? what command did you type that complained about that file? |
| 17:41.15 | johnga1t | JordiGH: i could always dd to a iso and then restore from that iso to the original drive, right? |
| 17:41.19 | zspada15 | ./configure for the alsadrivers, alsaconfig will not work with my sound card, im guessing it dosent have the drivers installed |
| 17:41.38 | JordiGH | johnga1t: I think so, but don't take my word as gospel. |
| 17:41.38 | minerale | the -g option when ssh'ing allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports, is there something similar when forwarding remote ports locally ? |
| 17:41.44 | stew | zspada15: why are you compiling alsa drivers? 2.6.8 already includes them. what card do you have? |
| 17:41.54 | zspada15 | ISA SB16 |
| 17:42.03 | zspada15 | heres what happens when i run alsamixer: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 17:42.15 | stew | zspada15: that's an old card. you don't need newer drivers than what is already included |
| 17:42.24 | beardy | That card works fine with alsa. |
| 17:42.33 | zspada15 | well how comeits nto working for me |
| 17:42.34 | stew | zspada15: have you tried alsaconf? (you have to let it probe for isa/legacy drivers after it fails to find pci cards) |
| 17:42.44 | zspada15 | i am running alsaconf, ill give u the output from it |
| 17:43.15 | stew | zspada15: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 17:45.06 | jeward | Let's say I have a local mirror of debian and I want to create another repository where we release pakackages as we test them only. |
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| 17:45.27 | jeward | We have 184 production debian servers. |
| 17:45.29 | stew | jeward: /msg dpkg repository |
| 17:46.23 | jeward | stew: Nothing happens? |
| 17:46.29 | stew | !repository |
| 17:46.30 | dpkg | debian repository is, like, a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
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| 17:46.51 | jeward | Thanks, I'll read that. |
| 17:47.11 | zspada15 | stew: the output didnt say anything. it probed the sb8 and sb16 and went to a # prompt, the result was a blank box with an ok button in the middle |
| 17:47.29 | S4nD3r | Hello... Which is the newest versionof BS Hacker game?? Id like to try this one... |
| 17:47.45 | zspada15 | S4nD3r: google it |
| 17:48.13 | stew | zspada15: is the snd-sb16 modules loaded now? |
| 17:48.27 | zspada15 | umm lemme run a modprobe |
| 17:48.53 | zspada15 | output from modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16 (/lib/modules/2.6.8-3-686/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko): No such device |
| 17:48.53 | zspada15 | FATAL: Error running install command for snd_sb16 |
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| 17:49.14 | stew | zspada15: you probably have to specify stuff like irq and ioport |
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| 17:49.32 | zspada15 | i have no clue what my irq and ioport are |
| 17:49.40 | zspada15 | would it be easier to use a pci card? |
| 17:49.46 | beardy | zspada15: Are you sure you have a SB16, or a SB16 compatible, (which is a large pile of cards) |
| 17:49.59 | zspada15 | no i have a creative SB16 |
| 17:50.05 | zspada15 | should i go dig up a pci card? |
| 17:50.19 | stew | zspada15: pci would be much easier. you can try pnpdump aybe |
| 17:50.27 | zspada15 | ill go get a pci card brb |
| 17:50.43 | beardy | zspada15: Have you appended the necessary things to the kernel, if any? |
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| 17:51.36 | streuner | What's the entry in gkrellm for local mail? |
| 17:51.41 | beardy | I have a ESS Audiodrive, some model, SB? compatible, I have to append adress, irq and dma. |
| 17:51.51 | zspada15 | beardy: nothing is nescesarry |
| 17:52.05 | streuner | (/var/mail/<user>? |
| 17:52.11 | streuner | (/var/mail/<user>)? |
| 17:53.05 | beardy | zspada15: In another box I have a Creative SB16, which I got working nicely with alsa. The other card is on a 2.4 kernel, using OSS. |
| 17:53.09 | stew | zspada15: he means modprobe parameters, which you would need to also speicify: port, irc, and dma |
| 17:53.32 | beardy | stew: No, I didn't, but it's probably only for OSS: |
| 17:53.34 | zspada15 | im going to get a pci sound card, i have one in another nonworking box |
| 17:53.56 | JordiGH | Sweet... I managed to use flpsed to artificially fill in a PDF form... now, as for adding a signature... |
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| 17:56.37 | JordiGH | Let's see if Scribus can help me here... |
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| 18:04.51 | JordiGH | Heh, now edditting my signature with GIMP. :P How do I make the background transparent in a png? |
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| 18:05.14 | zinx | JordiGH: how do you have it right now? |
| 18:05.25 | zinx | JordiGH: like, black text on white background? |
| 18:05.29 | JordiGH | zinx: Monochrome. Ys. |
| 18:05.31 | JordiGH | Yes. |
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| 18:05.49 | zinx | JordiGH: lemme find the filter name, there's a really easy way |
| 18:06.02 | JordiGH | Thanks. 'Preciate it. |
| 18:06.23 | beardy | JordiGH: Perhaps an ugly way, but cut what you want to keep, create a new image, choose transparent, paste in it. |
| 18:06.44 | zinx | JordiGH: Colors -> Map -> Color Range Exchange |
| 18:06.47 | zinx | erh |
| 18:06.51 | zinx | JordiGH: Colors -> Map -> Map Color Range |
| 18:06.53 | zinx | (sorry) |
| 18:07.09 | zinx | uhm, third time's the charm? |
| 18:07.21 | zinx | Color Range Mapping :D |
| 18:07.38 | zinx | JordiGH: map from the background -> forground to transparent -> foreground |
| 18:08.07 | zinx | oh, crap, it doesn't do transparency |
| 18:08.18 | JordiGH | zinx: I think I'll do beardy's suggestion. :P |
| 18:08.27 | kurumin | brasil? |
| 18:08.47 | zinx | oh |
| 18:08.50 | zinx | JordiGH: wrong plugin :D |
| 18:08.55 | zinx | JordiGH: Colors -> Color to Alpha :D |
| 18:10.34 | JordiGH | Aha! Excellent! Much easier. I was having problems with beardy's suggestion, because I had to tweak the selection. It didn't get all non-contiguous ranges. :-) |
| 18:11.02 | beardy | JordiGH: Yeah, what zinx said looks like what you want. It depends on the situation though. |
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| 18:11.54 | JordiGH | Ack! But Scribus doesn't seem to honour the png transparency. :-( |
| 18:12.15 | zinx | JordiGH: for future reference, #gimp or irc.gimp.org may be better ;) |
| 18:12.23 | zinx | JordiGH: evil |
| 18:12.28 | zinx | JordiGH: gif, then? :/ |
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| 18:13.24 | Jemt | Greetz. Can someone help me with Firestarter (firewall) ? If I open a port, will that apply to both TCP and UDP ? |
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| 18:14.00 | JordiGH | Grr... :-( Won't work either. Alright, screw it. I'm treating the entire PDF as an image and I'll do it all in GIMP. |
| 18:14.15 | zinx | :/ |
| 18:14.57 | evilbulgarian | hi, what is a good way to backup the entire hard drive while a system is running to another hard drive on the system?? |
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| 18:17.12 | JordiGH | Now that gives problems with anti-aliasing... alright, this means war, Adobe. >:) |
| 18:17.35 | jduggan | evilbulgarian, if the hd's are identical i think you can cat /dev/hdx > /dev/hdy but i dunno if it works if the drives are different, im assumin no |
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| 18:18.18 | evilbulgarian | jduggan: yeah they are prob not exactly the same what about dd ? |
| 18:19.45 | moprilo | hi.. i'm installing my modem, but the make command needs the path to my Linux include, ... jmm don't know where it is. any suggestions ? |
| 18:19.58 | SubStack | cp /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 |
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| 18:20.39 | SubStack | possibly |
| 18:20.47 | shining | wtf |
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| 18:22.06 | apfel | Which program can I use to transfer pictures from my digicam Casio Exilim S600? |
| 18:22.32 | jetscreamer | mount/cp ? |
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| 18:23.00 | streuner | gphoto if the digicam doesn't support usb-storage |
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| 18:23.13 | streuner | !info gphoto2 |
| 18:23.13 | jetscreamer | moprilo: linux-headers, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ` not ' |
| 18:23.16 | dpkg | gphoto2: (The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.2.0-3 (sid), Packaged size: 183 kB, Installed size: 928 kB |
| 18:23.37 | anapivirtua | Nighty. |
| 18:24.05 | moprilo | thanks jetscreamer |
| 18:24.25 | jetscreamer | moprilo: they wind up in /usr/src/linux-headers-something |
| 18:24.28 | gutano_ | so I get really poor performance accessing a *cry* microsoft access file hosted on a samba share... The weird part is, 2 of the clients run extremely slow, and the 3rd runs very fast... all similar speed machine, slow ones (1 sp2, 1 reg xp), fast one is reg xp |
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| 18:25.18 | jetscreamer | moprilo: they wind up in /usr/src/linux-headers-something/include iirc |
| 18:25.26 | sander | how do I copy files listed in a file with full path to a different directory? |
| 18:25.57 | streuner | !tell apfel about usb-storage |
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| 18:27.06 | streuner | apfel: How long do you use debian, btw? |
| 18:27.09 | shining | sander: one path per line? |
| 18:27.23 | petemc | sander: cat file |(while read; do cp $REPLY /dir/ ;done) |
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| 18:27.35 | sander | shining: yes |
| 18:27.48 | shining | ho, I wouldn't have done it like that :) |
| 18:28.04 | shining | for i in `cat file`; do cp $i /dir/; done |
| 18:28.25 | kreg_work | what was the last 2.4 distro from debain. i can't seem to find this information on debian.org |
| 18:28.34 | jetscreamer | :( /me wouldn't have done it at all |
| 18:28.36 | petemc | sarge has a 2.4 kernel |
| 18:28.47 | shining | but it's an interesting way |
| 18:28.48 | jetscreamer | woody |
| 18:28.49 | JordiGH | Hehehe... this is ridiculous. Use kpdf to copy the pdf as an image. This deals with anti-aliasing issues. Copy to GIMP. Put my signature in the pdf with GIMP. Save. Convert the image back to pdf. I think I'm beginning to earn my geek cookie of the day. |
| 18:28.50 | streuner | kreg_work: still sarge? or you mean without 2.6.x? |
| 18:29.05 | jeward | We have a local mirror of debian. I would like to create a second repository where we release packages for production servers to update from only after we have tested them. |
| 18:29.19 | jetscreamer | !mirror |
| 18:29.27 | jetscreamer | !repository |
| 18:29.27 | dpkg | hmm... debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 18:29.45 | jeward | Yeah, I've read that. It only describes how to create and maintain a current mirror. |
| 18:29.55 | jetscreamer | !suppository |
| 18:29.56 | dpkg | i heard suppository is a small plug of medication designed for insertion into the rectum or vagina where it melts |
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| 18:30.01 | jeward | I want a manually updated mirror. |
| 18:30.31 | jeward | Are there any tools for maintaining a mirror manually? |
| 18:30.31 | streuner | so an own repo? |
| 18:30.49 | jetscreamer | s/an/your/ |
| 18:31.06 | streuner | jeward: try /msg dpkg own repo |
| 18:31.06 | jetscreamer | <S> |
| 18:31.45 | syntaxx | is it safe to apt-get upgrade if you see when u apt-get 8 not upgraded? |
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| 18:31.56 | jeward | I can't switch windows in this IRC client. |
| 18:32.06 | jeward | Any other way I can get that info? |
| 18:32.18 | jetscreamer | !own repo |
| 18:32.18 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 18:32.37 | abrotman | jeward: in which client? |
| 18:32.40 | sander | shining; petemc: thanks, it works like a charm. |
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| 18:32.49 | jeward | irssi. |
| 18:32.57 | jetscreamer | /window next |
| 18:32.59 | jeward | I'm in an OS X xterm. |
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| 18:33.14 | abrotman | so? |
| 18:33.30 | jeward | They ALT key doesn't do what it's supposed to do. |
| 18:33.31 | petemc | alt + windows number works fine for me in terminal.app |
| 18:33.37 | petemc | + screen + irssi |
| 18:33.39 | amphi | jeward: or ctrl-n/p |
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| 18:33.48 | anders_ | how do i configurate my screen resoulution? |
| 18:33.58 | petemc | jeward: try esc |
| 18:33.59 | jetscreamer | !tell anders_ -about drxx |
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| 18:34.03 | jeward | CTRL-N worked, thanks! |
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| 18:34.59 | blakkino | hi |
| 18:35.00 | syntaxx | anders_, dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver |
| 18:35.02 | blakkino | how to print a man page? |
| 18:35.09 | syntaxx | anders_, err xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:35.14 | blakkino | (i.e translate to a good text file) |
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| 18:35.47 | jeward | Okay, that looks like instructions for making a repository for a few packages. |
| 18:35.48 | dimir | blakkino: man <file> | lpr |
| 18:36.01 | blakkino | mm sure the output is decent? |
| 18:36.05 | dimir | blakkino: or: man <file> > /tmp/man.txt |
| 18:36.09 | kreg_work | streuner, i'm just looking to find out where 2.4 ended and 2.6 began |
| 18:36.11 | dimir | blakkino: sure. |
| 18:36.13 | blakkino | dimir, i know bash pipes :) |
| 18:36.13 | jeward | I want a complete mirror to start with and then to have manuakl control over what packages get released thereafter. |
| 18:36.27 | jeward | Does that make sense? |
| 18:36.27 | kreg_work | i thought i remember using 2.4 in sarge |
| 18:36.33 | blakkino | (in fact i'm printing man bash!) |
| 18:36.55 | streuner | kreg_work: potato didn't have 2.6.x kernels, IIRC |
| 18:36.58 | Serinity | How can i disable virtual desktops in xorg please ? |
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| 18:37.08 | streuner | and woody, damn |
| 18:37.17 | streuner | oh, woody too |
| 18:37.29 | streuner | woody didn't have 2.6.x kernels as well |
| 18:37.32 | dimir | Serinity: You mean, the desktop environment? |
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| 18:38.05 | jeward | Would it be possible to make a second local repository as symbolic links to the first and then update links manually? |
| 18:38.05 | kreg_work | can one install sarge, and then downgrade to kernel 2.4 without asking for trouble? such as modules.conf |
| 18:38.29 | streuner | kreg_work: it should be painless |
| 18:38.33 | blakkino | dimir, in fact that doesn't work well |
| 18:38.54 | kreg_work | when did sarge start using 2.6? |
| 18:38.54 | blakkino | there are additional character (non printable, maybe) |
| 18:39.00 | Serinity | I mean when i change my resoltuion using Ctrl + Alt + -/+ the desktop size is bigger than the screen, I want to disable this and when i change my resolution have the desktop that fit the monitor |
| 18:39.17 | JordiGH | configurate... me smells a speaker of a Romance language. |
| 18:39.29 | dimir | blakkino: sure there might be, the locales and console environment should be set correctly. |
| 18:39.30 | streuner | kreg_work: well, 2.6.8 was one of the kernels which was in the release. |
| 18:39.50 | JordiGH | Ah, already left. Never mind. |
| 18:39.55 | streuner | kreg_work: no new packages goes into sarge/stable... |
| 18:39.56 | kreg_work | i'm trying to find release info. seems to be hard to gather |
| 18:39.59 | Serinity | I want to haev the desktop resoltuion that changes as the screen resoltuion changes |
| 18:40.17 | JordiGH | Serenity: Are you using KDE? I know a KDE solution for that. |
| 18:40.23 | Serinity | I use KDE |
| 18:40.36 | Serinity | but I'd rather haev an xorg.conf solution :P |
| 18:40.47 | JordiGH | Serenity: There's a screen resize app that you can dock in the KDE system tray. |
| 18:40.49 | Serinity | But yesm, go ahead :) |
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| 18:41.11 | Serinity | Oh, yeah, i remember now about this, I'm focused on xorg stuff.... Thanks |
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| 18:42.25 | roxy_ | using wengophone, people I call can't hear me. Apparently it is coming from my alsamixer setting. Could someone be kind enough to look at it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Zra6210.html and tell me if something is obviously wrong ? |
| 18:42.34 | JordiGH | I used to have a friend who didn't mind moving the mouse around the screen with the ctrl+atl+`+`. He had very poor eyesight, almost legally blind. |
| 18:43.23 | Serinity | I see, but i know there's a solution for this |
| 18:43.30 | Serinity | Just I can't remember what |
| 18:43.52 | jetscreamer | known problem i take it: dpkg: version '2.3, all' has bad syntax: version string has embedded spaces |
| 18:44.13 | JordiGH | Serenity: There must be. Hmm... I wonder how KDE does it. |
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| 18:44.46 | Serinity | I'm trying in #xorg |
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| 18:44.54 | Serinity | If someone awakes over there |
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| 18:45.26 | jetscreamer | xrandr |
| 18:45.43 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search xrandr or xrander |
| 18:46.02 | jetscreamer | xrandr ioirc |
| 18:46.03 | abrotman | xrandr |
| 18:46.32 | jetscreamer | that would be you, Serinity |
| 18:46.41 | JordiGH | Serinity: I'm reading man xorg.conf right now. There seems to be something about virtual resolution in there. |
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| 18:47.09 | JordiGH | Oh, xrandr. Never mind. |
| 18:48.06 | Serinity | Yeah, I'm not right sure what xrandr does |
| 18:48.42 | Serinity | Damn, how come i still have popups opening in mozilla when it's disabled in the preferences... |
| 18:48.44 | Serinity | :/ |
| 18:48.46 | k31th | How can i create an md5 hash ? |
| 18:48.56 | Serinity | see md5sum |
| 18:49.00 | Serinity | man md5sum |
| 18:49.14 | k31th | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.22 | k31th | i guess i could copy it from shadow |
| 18:49.31 | JordiGH | jordi@Ophelia:~$ wtf tbh |
| 18:49.33 | JordiGH | Gee... I don't know what tbh means... |
| 18:49.37 | JordiGH | :-( |
| 18:49.38 | Serinity | shadow is salty as far i know |
| 18:49.41 | JordiGH | To be honest? |
| 18:50.19 | Serinity | k31th, php -r "echo md5('insert password here').\"\n\";" |
| 18:50.39 | Serinity | should do it if you have something like php4-cli or so installed |
| 18:50.44 | dimir | k31th: echo test | md5sum |
| 18:50.51 | Serinity | even better |
| 18:51.07 | Serinity | hum md5sum takes stdin... interresting |
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| 18:52.18 | JordiGH | Now I have my pdf as a huge jpg, after I mucked around with it and filled in a form and a signature. Now I want to make sure it will print correctly. Convert it back to pdf? To ps/eps? |
| 18:52.37 | JordiGH | I can't just modify the size of the jpg and hope it'll print correctly everywhere, can I? |
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| 18:54.17 | JordiGH | Hah! ImageMagick's convert can convert to pdf. I think this completely solves all of my problems. |
| 18:55.01 | PeriBrown | hi all |
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| 18:56.34 | vanquish | hello all - I'm writting a preinst script. Is there any way i can capture the version of the package i'm installing inside the script? |
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| 18:58.35 | vanquish | anyone here? |
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| 18:59.45 | roxy_ | where can I find the meaning of each column in alsamixer ? |
| 19:00.01 | roxy_ | man alsamixer is very small |
| 19:01.57 | abrotman | try alsa-project.org |
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| 19:02.48 | FanBoy | Hi, I stupidly deleted /var/log/mail.info, and now postfix isnt providing any logging information at all. I have recated the file, chmod and chowned it, but still nothing, any ideas? :S |
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| 19:03.12 | Cooner750 | Got problems alread |
| 19:03.13 | Cooner750 | y |
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| 19:03.44 | dimir | FanBoy: restart postfix |
| 19:03.56 | FanBoy | I have. And the system logging daemon. |
| 19:04.11 | Cooner750 | I installed Debian, rebooted, did configuration, set it up for "web server" as that's what the computer will most likely be, it went back to the prompt, I logged in, when I try to run apt-get install XFce4 I get Pakage not found |
| 19:04.13 | dimir | FanBoy: remove the file and restart postfix |
| 19:04.24 | FanBoy | I have. |
| 19:04.27 | dimir | Hmmm. |
| 19:04.28 | dimir | OK. |
| 19:04.29 | dimir | :-) |
| 19:04.37 | dimir | FanBoy: restart syslog? |
| 19:04.41 | FanBoy | Yup. |
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| 19:05.19 | Cooner750 | any ideas? Do I have to edit sources.list? |
| 19:05.33 | dimir | Cooner750: you have to make sure there are correct entries. |
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| 19:06.32 | Cooner750 | What do I edit it with? |
| 19:06.41 | Cooner750 | and, how do I know what to add? |
| 19:06.44 | dimir | Cooner750: and I hope you are giving name 'xfce4', not 'XFce4' |
| 19:06.54 | FanBoy | So, no more ideas? You would think postfix would just recreate the logs if they got deleted. |
| 19:06.59 | Cooner750 | It isnt case sensitive, is it? |
| 19:07.06 | dimir | Cooner750: it is. |
| 19:07.08 | Cooner750 | oh.. |
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| 19:07.32 | Cooner750 | i'll reboot into Debian and try again.. |
| 19:07.45 | dimir | FanBoy: try to explicitly stop/start postfix (not restart) |
| 19:07.53 | FanBoy | yup I have |
| 19:07.58 | JordiGH | This is strange. I can load google.com in a web browser, but it seems to be the only one that will respond. I think I may have screwed up the net configuration. How do I fix it? |
| 19:08.02 | FanBoy | I just stopped the logger, stopped postfix, started logger, started postfix |
| 19:08.30 | FanBoy | oooh |
| 19:08.39 | FanBoy | think its doing something now |
| 19:08.40 | FanBoy | :D |
| 19:09.36 | syntaxx | i apt-get upgrade and then again my windows in grub gone how can i make my windows appear in grub? |
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| 19:10.54 | abrotman | FanBoy: are the permissions correct? |
| 19:11.07 | FanBoy | its working now thanks |
| 19:12.01 | syntaxx | abrotman, i apt-get upgrade then my windows in grub after reboot is gone how can i add the windows in grub? |
| 19:12.38 | JordiGH | The net configuration pop quiz that runs during a Debian install, how can I try again to answer it? |
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| 19:13.45 | PastorEd | Hello, everyone. I need some help connecting to a wireless network using a Debian machine. |
| 19:14.03 | PepperBob | syntaxx: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Linux+Win9x+Grub-HOWTO.html |
| 19:14.04 | ktwilight | ... |
| 19:14.06 | abrotman | syntaxx: google "boot windows grub" .. should have enough info to get you going |
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| 19:14.38 | PepperBob | syntaxx: scroll down to 3.2.2 editing grub.conf |
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| 19:14.44 | PastorEd | For some reason, I can "see" the connection, but I cannot get a DHCP from it. I have the WEP key, but it does not help me connect. |
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| 19:15.14 | vanquish | Anyone here write preinst scripts for packages? |
| 19:15.51 | PastorEd | Can anyone help me connect to my wireless network with WEP? |
| 19:15.53 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: by "see" the connection, do you mean see it in iwlist ethX scan? |
| 19:16.05 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: yes. |
| 19:16.42 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: what version of dhcp-client do you have? |
| 19:16.51 | PastorEd | Technically, I can "see" it using a KDE tool. |
| 19:17.15 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: I do not know. I am not in Linux right now. I have to log in to windows to get IRC access for help. |
| 19:17.46 | PastorEd | iwconfig gives me wlan0 information. |
| 19:17.46 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: what wireless NIC do you have, and what driver are you using? |
| 19:17.56 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: ndiswrapper? |
| 19:18.05 | PastorEd | No. Not ndiswrapper. |
| 19:18.19 | PastorEd | It was autodetected... hang on, I think I can find that out in Windows... |
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| 19:18.56 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: D-Link DWL-520 PCI wireless adapter. |
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| 19:19.24 | nyk2005 | Do I get the UserAgent's resolution somewhere in the request? I see it sometimes in stats, but my firefox doesn't seem to send any resolution. Does anyone know something about this? |
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| 19:19.45 | vanquish | Anyone here write preinst scripts for packages? |
| 19:20.45 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: ah- it's using the Prism driver.. |
| 19:20.49 | JordiGH | During installation, there are a few questions about netmask and other things like that. How can I attempt to answer those questions again, or have them automatically detected? Right now, I have strange behaviour when trying to connect to web servers. Only Google loads, and everything else halts forever at "waiting for reply." |
| 19:21.14 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: okay. I believe you. :D What does that mean? |
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| 19:22.25 | vanquish | bleh you debian people. gentoo > debian |
| 19:22.27 | abrotman | #prism54 exists |
| 19:22.31 | abrotman | vanquish: go away |
| 19:22.35 | mbishop | heh |
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| 19:22.43 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 19:22.43 | dpkg | mentors is, like, Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 19:22.50 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: I can use a couple of different LiveCD's and different tools tell me that the wlan0 is set up, and can detect the router in the other room. |
| 19:22.51 | abrotman | !tell vanquish about mentors |
| 19:22.54 | abrotman | !tell vanquish about nm |
| 19:23.08 | PastorEd | But for some reason, when I type in the WEP key, I am not connected. |
| 19:23.09 | abrotman | erm .. wrong one |
| 19:23.10 | abrotman | !tell vanquish about mg |
| 19:23.13 | abrotman | there we go |
| 19:23.27 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: what are you using to connect? a KDE tool? |
| 19:23.28 | vanquish | *sigh* |
| 19:23.32 | vanquish | i already know the basics |
| 19:23.39 | abrotman | so ask the mentors |
| 19:23.49 | abrotman | (we're not smart enough to be mentors) :) |
| 19:24.06 | mbishop | yeah we aren't smart like those gentoo users... |
| 19:24.49 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: I cannot remember specifically the name of the program. |
| 19:25.00 | JordiGH | :-/ |
| 19:25.00 | PastorEd | It's a GUI interface for iwconfig, I'll bet. |
| 19:25.22 | JordiGH | Isn't there a way to automatically configure the network? :-/ |
| 19:25.46 | abrotman | yes |
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| 19:26.18 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: you should try usign the command line to set it up- you get more control and you get to see what is wrong if something goes wrong.. |
| 19:26.19 | abrotman | !info etherconf sarge |
| 19:26.21 | dpkg | etherconf: (debconf interface to Ethernet device configuration), section net, is optional. Version: 1.17-0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 41 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 19:26.47 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: Okay, I'm game. How do I do that? |
| 19:27.00 | pjota | hi there, folks |
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| 19:27.34 | twirl83 | how can I have procmail invoked. I created a .forward file and this inside |/usr/bin/procmail . but it is still not being invoked |
| 19:27.39 | pjota | I'm trying to instal FUSE, but it requires a prepared kernel source before runing configure |
| 19:27.53 | pjota | anybody knows how to prepare a kernel source? |
| 19:28.09 | abrotman | pjota: get the debian kernel source package and the fuse source package? |
| 19:28.40 | PastorEd | jonnylamb: I suppose what I really need to know is how to tell iwconfig to use a specific MAC address? Because when I try "pump -i wlan0", all I get is "operation failed". |
| 19:28.46 | abrotman | !fuse |
| 19:28.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fuse is at http://fuse.sf.net/, is Filesystem in USEerspace, enables you to mount various exotic filesystems, like samba workgroups, tar files, ftp sites etc. Fuse is packaged in debian and already included in recent 2.6.x kernels. |
| 19:28.57 | pjota | abrotman: I have already both them |
| 19:28.59 | mbishop | PastorEd: man iwconfig |
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| 19:29.18 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: http://pastebin.ca/91613 |
| 19:29.31 | JordiGH | abrotman: Hm, but if I can't even get the net working to download etherconf? :-/ |
| 19:29.32 | pjota | one thing, kernel source is in tar.bz2 format |
| 19:29.41 | PastorEd | mbishop: I've done that... but all the examples in man iwconfig are using eth0. Should I just substitute "wlan0" for "eth0" |
| 19:29.49 | JordiGH | abrotman: The Debian installer has never failed me, until now. |
| 19:30.03 | mbishop | PastorEd: yes, just change the device name to the device name of yours |
| 19:30.06 | jonnylamb | PastorEd: replacing wlan0 for eth0 is a good idea! |
| 19:30.22 | PastorEd | heh... I'll give that a try! |
| 19:30.22 | JordiGH | abrotman: For some reason, I can open google in a web browser, but that seems to be the only webpage I can open. Any idea? |
| 19:30.54 | pjota | I'm trying to install FUSE to test the ntfs-3g |
| 19:30.55 | jonnylamb | pjota: the fuse-source package installs the tar.bz2 that should be installed by using module-assistant. try as root: m-a a-i fuse |
| 19:30.55 | syntaxx | i add in my sources.list deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian stable main and apt-get update but when i apt-get install splashy splashy-themes it says Error: cant find package splashy |
| 19:31.29 | jonnylamb | syntaxx: after you edit sources.list you must execute "apt-get update" as root |
| 19:31.41 | syntaxx | jonnylamb, yeah already done that |
| 19:31.51 | pjota | jonnylamb: m-aa-i fuse? sorry but I can't understand |
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| 19:32.22 | PastorEd | Thanks for your help, jonnylamb, mbishop. I'll logoff and try that... hopefully, it'll work. |
| 19:32.38 | jonnylamb | pjota: once you have installed the package "fuse-source", run these two commands as root: "m-a prepare" and then "m-a a-i fuse" |
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| 19:32.54 | jonnylamb | pjota: m-a is just short for module-assistant, and a-i is short for auto-install |
| 19:33.01 | Bitz_ | hi, anyone uses or familiar with ipmi? |
| 19:33.28 | pjota | I downloaded fuse-source, not by apt-get |
| 19:33.46 | pjota | I have a tar.tgz with all the source |
| 19:34.00 | jonnylamb | syntaxx: well then i'd suggest that package isn't called that then. try "apt-cache pkgnames | grep splashy" |
| 19:34.38 | abrotman | JordiGH: then you edit the file manually |
| 19:34.42 | jonnylamb | pjota: oh! well, actually it's easier, and better, to do it "the Debian way". "apt-get install fuse-source" then do those two commands i said earlier... |
| 19:34.49 | pjota | jonnylamb: this are not found commands :S |
| 19:34.54 | JordiGH | abrotman: Which file? |
| 19:35.01 | abrotman | !tell JordiGH about interfaces |
| 19:35.11 | pjota | ok, I'm gonna tryo it! |
| 19:35.19 | JordiGH | Thanks! |
| 19:35.20 | pjota | thakns jonnylamb |
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| 19:43.06 | rhalff_ | what's the easiest smtp thing for debian, just to send mail from an internet host ? |
| 19:43.10 | rhalff_ | I just install mutt ? |
| 19:43.16 | rhalff_ | or is mutt receiving ? |
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| 19:43.54 | Cooner750 | I installed xfce and gdm but it says X cannot be found |
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| 19:43.58 | ribnitz | heyas.. |
| 19:44.01 | rhalff_ | oh mutt is a client |
| 19:44.03 | Edwin_Quijada | I need install a p2p server for personal downloads |
| 19:44.08 | Edwin_Quijada | which one can be? |
| 19:44.09 | Cooner750 | What is the package name for X? |
| 19:44.22 | jonnylamb | rhalff_: /msg dpkg mta |
| 19:44.30 | Edwin_Quijada | Cooner750: x-server-core |
| 19:44.35 | jonnylamb | rhalff_: install one of them |
| 19:44.44 | abrotman | Cooner750: x-window-system |
| 19:44.50 | Edwin_Quijada | Cooner750: xorg-server |
| 19:44.50 | Cooner750 | er... which one? |
| 19:44.53 | abrotman | or x-window-system-core |
| 19:45.01 | abrotman | Cooner750: which version of debian ? |
| 19:45.01 | Cooner750 | now i'm confused |
| 19:45.05 | Cooner750 | Latest Netinst |
| 19:45.07 | rhalff_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.11 | Cooner750 | whatever version that is |
| 19:45.11 | rhalff_ | oops :) |
| 19:45.11 | abrotman | Cooner750: sarge or etch ? |
| 19:45.20 | abrotman | Cooner750: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:45.36 | Edwin_Quijada | Cooner750: sarge x-server etch xorg-server |
| 19:45.42 | abrotman | Edwin_Quijada: eh .. no? |
| 19:45.53 | JordiGH | How very odd... why can I open google, why can I get a few bytes of response from cnn.com, but why can't I open any other webpage? |
| 19:46.10 | Cooner750 | Er, I dont know, I just downloaded it from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 19:46.23 | abrotman | Cooner750: what desktop would you like? |
| 19:46.33 | abrotman | JordiGH: firewall ? |
| 19:46.34 | Cooner750 | Xfce, I already have xfce4 and GDM installed |
| 19:46.42 | abrotman | Cooner750: ok .. apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 19:46.43 | ribnitz | abrotman: An oak desk.. |
| 19:47.02 | abrotman | ribnitz: uh .. ok |
| 19:47.07 | Cooner750 | ok. I have another problem to take care of first. a wire in my computer came loose and hit the CPU fan and busted a blade off so now it vibrates really loudly |
| 19:47.10 | Edwin_Quijada | abrotman: if u have etch I think it install xorg |
| 19:47.11 | ribnitz | Cooner750: good choice. |
| 19:47.21 | abrotman | Edwin_Quijada: the package for sarge is NOT x-server |
| 19:47.54 | abrotman | Edwin_Quijada: and the package for etch/sid is merely 'xorg' |
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| 19:48.23 | Cooner750 | What socket is the PIII Coppermine? |
| 19:48.25 | Cooner750 | 370? |
| 19:48.44 | blue_lizard | Cooner750: install microsoft windows and the vibrations will go away |
| 19:48.45 | JordiGH | abrotman: It sounds reasonable... but I sure as heck didn't configure anything in Windows, and yet these restrictions aren't there. Maybe dhcpclient in Debian is attaching itself to a different IP address that is firewalled. |
| 19:49.06 | Cooner750 | i'm actually in windows right now |
| 19:49.21 | blue_lizard | uhhh |
| 19:49.34 | Edwin_Quijada | I need to install a p2p server Which one can be?> |
| 19:49.35 | abrotman | Cooner750: there are text mode irc clients in debian :) |
| 19:49.35 | blue_lizard | you need the newest anti vibrations patch |
| 19:49.48 | Cooner750 | the fan is powered directly from a hard drive connector so it runs at full speed all the time |
| 19:50.30 | Edwin_Quijada | abrotman: sirc |
| 19:50.37 | Edwin_Quijada | apt-get install sirc |
| 19:50.51 | abrotman | Edwin_Quijada: i don't need it |
| 19:51.01 | abrotman | and everyone knows you should use irssi! |
| 19:51.11 | roxy_ | Blissex: how can I save alsaconf setting on debian? :-) |
| 19:51.11 | k31th | Are there any LDAP / LUMA users here? im trying to mass add users to ldap... either i need to create a script to add the users or use luma ? |
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| 19:51.20 | abrotman | k31th: #ldap |
| 19:51.32 | k31th | abrotman: iv tried |
| 19:51.41 | abrotman | k31th: be patient .. they'll answer |
| 19:52.16 | k31th | i seen that luma is a supported deb package so i wondered if anyone used it here (there are 2 users in #luma) |
| 19:52.22 | Cooner750 | cpu is running at 163 degrees F. kind of hot |
| 19:52.27 | abrotman | you think? |
| 19:52.33 | abrotman | wait .. no that's ok |
| 19:52.35 | Milo0 | Cooner750 why dont you remove more blades from the fan - the vibrations may stop |
| 19:52.47 | Cooner750 | Er.. it only has like 4 or 5 |
| 19:52.54 | blue_lizard | Milo0: goot solution |
| 19:52.58 | abrotman | erm .. maybe it is a bit hot |
| 19:53.02 | Cooner750 | It's a plain 80mm fan clipped to the heatsink |
| 19:53.03 | abrotman | it's 73C |
| 19:53.08 | pjota | jonnylamb: here again, I installed fuse, but ntfs-3g fails on configure because of FUSE is not installed or is a <2.5 version. How can I know what version is installed? |
| 19:53.28 | k31th | 73c is fine |
| 19:53.32 | abrotman | depends on the CPU |
| 19:53.49 | k31th | well wat cpu is it.. |
| 19:53.55 | abrotman | he already said |
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| 19:54.36 | Cooner750 | It's an Intel PIII Coppermine 1Ghz |
| 19:54.41 | Cooner750 | I am not sure of the Socket type |
| 19:54.46 | blue_lizard | pjota: maybe you need libfuse-dev |
| 19:54.49 | k31th | be fine |
| 19:54.53 | k31th | at 70c |
| 19:55.02 | roxy_ | what package is alsactl ? |
| 19:55.16 | abrotman | Piggy: give those back! |
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| 19:55.34 | liable | roxy_: alsa-utils or base |
| 19:55.37 | Cooner750 | I could reconnect the 3-pin fan that it did have on it |
| 19:55.42 | Cooner750 | The clips are a pain to get off |
| 19:55.46 | roxy_ | liable: thanks |
| 19:55.58 | pjota | blue_lizard: "checking for fuse >= 2.5.0... configure: error: ntfs-3g requires FUSE version >= 2.5.0." Thats the problem |
| 19:56.09 | abrotman | you need a -dev package |
| 19:56.23 | Cooner750 | i need a new case fan too.. |
| 19:56.38 | abrotman | pjota: but if yo'ure using sarge .. fuse is at version 2.2 |
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| 19:57.25 | pjota | abrotman: so...no way to test ntf-3g? |
| 19:57.38 | abrotman | no idea ... i don't let linux touch ntfs |
| 19:57.51 | pjota | a good Debian reference book? I'm really lost! |
| 19:58.13 | r3c4ll_ | Who use Nagios? |
| 19:58.16 | abrotman | pjota: are you on sarge? |
| 19:58.28 | pjota | abrotman: yes, I am |
| 19:59.02 | liable | pjota: the debian referebce is a good start. /msg dpkg referebce |
| 19:59.09 | liable | meh |
| 19:59.22 | liable | s/referebc/reference/ |
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| 19:59.55 | blue_lizard | pjota: you need to deinstall fuse completely |
| 20:00.05 | r3c4ll_ | Who use Nagios? |
| 20:00.11 | blue_lizard | you need the right kernel sources fo your system |
| 20:00.12 | abrotman | stop repeating and just ask your damn question |
| 20:00.18 | abrotman | blue_lizard: he has those |
| 20:00.19 | pjota | liable: how can i read that /msg dpkg? (I said I'm really lost) |
| 20:00.33 | abrotman | blue_lizard: the version in sarge is at 2.2 .. the ntfs-3g needs fuse2.5 |
| 20:00.34 | blue_lizard | the download fuse sources and install them |
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| 20:02.14 | liable | pjota: in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference |
| 20:02.16 | pjota | I installed FUSE like an ugly cow eats grass |
| 20:02.46 | pjota | liable: thanks |
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| 20:06.05 | abrotman | !moo |
| 20:06.05 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 20:09.31 | r3c4ll_ | Who use Nagios? |
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| 20:13.36 | ohad | hi, i am trying to install the latest build of debian - it can not find the cdrom running on ibm xserver 345. why wouldn't it mount the cdrom?> any options i need to run the install with at the beginning to load the cdrom? |
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| 20:15.00 | niklaus | how do i search for linux related jobs |
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| 20:16.05 | mutante_ | www.hotlinuxjobs.com ? |
| 20:16.12 | blue_lizard | niklaus: if you ask how to search for linux related jobs, the you are not the right one to do any computer job anyway |
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| 20:16.28 | petemc | now now.. |
| 20:16.34 | abrotman | wrong channel .. OT |
| 20:16.35 | petemc | could do data input.. |
| 20:16.38 | abrotman | !petemcsmite petemc |
| 20:16.46 | abrotman | you always get that thrown at you! |
| 20:16.50 | abrotman | oh wait ... |
| 20:16.52 | petemc | i do |
| 20:16.59 | petemc | to be sure to be sure to be sure |
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| 20:17.28 | abrotman | !petemcsmite petemc |
| 20:17.31 | abrotman | darn it ... |
| 20:17.38 | abrotman | i added a new one :) |
| 20:17.42 | petemc | woo :) |
| 20:18.15 | petemc | are you in the jersey mafia, abrotman ? |
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| 20:19.16 | petemc | i dont know anything else cliched about nj.. |
| 20:19.32 | jade | i have a process that i believe is constrained only by disk i/o, which tools can i use to validate that? |
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| 20:20.26 | jade | i have iostat installed for example, but it doesnt seem to trace the time spent by a single process to this cause |
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| 20:21.46 | twirl83 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:22.36 | petemc | twirl83: using exim? there should be a router to handle ~/.procmailrc |
| 20:22.39 | abrotman | petemc: no .. i live on the other side of the deleware |
| 20:22.43 | abrotman | i can't even spell it |
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| 20:22.47 | petemc | oh right |
| 20:22.48 | abrotman | !phillysmite petemc |
| 20:23.03 | twirl83 | petemc, postfix.. I am not the administrator of the machine . I only have a shell account in it :S |
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| 20:23.21 | petemc | twirl83: oh, im not to au fait with postfix |
| 20:23.33 | petemc | abrotman: so, you buy lots of cheap clothes in outlet stores? |
| 20:23.39 | abrotman | twirl83: should be the same .. ask #postfix |
| 20:23.45 | twirl83 | good idea |
| 20:23.52 | abrotman | petemc: they're building more outlets about two miles from my apt .. |
| 20:24.07 | abrotman | petemc: so now they have them in NE Philly, Lancaster, Reading, and soon Pottstown |
| 20:24.14 | petemc | thats the ticket |
| 20:24.37 | abrotman | it'll just make traffic worse .. but noone seems to care |
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| 20:36.11 | Cooner750 | I installed x-window-system-core but I made a mistake configuring it and it's unable to start X |
| 20:36.15 | Cooner750 | How do I reconfigure it? |
| 20:36.28 | w00t- | what the config minimal for running dsl ? |
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| 20:36.59 | liable | !drxx Cooner750 |
| 20:36.59 | dpkg | Cooner750: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 20:37.35 | abrotman | Cooner750: did you install irssi-text yet? |
| 20:37.54 | Cooner750 | Not yet, havent got a chance |
| 20:38.07 | Cooner750 | Rebooting into |
| 20:38.19 | Cooner750 | Debian again. It trys to start X about 5 times before it gives up |
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| 20:39.31 | Lars_G | quick stupid question |
| 20:39.55 | Lars_G | if I am doing a debuild of a source package, and this package generates several debs, is there anyway I can tell debuild to build only one of the subpackages? |
| 20:40.03 | Lars_G | or, to omit one? |
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| 20:44.10 | Lars_G | or with dpkg-buildpackage either. |
| 20:44.12 | Lars_G | Please :) |
| 20:44.12 | w00t- | what the config minimal for running dsl ? |
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| 20:45.48 | sbk | I'm curious. /proc/cpuinfo reports the "ht" capability, but on bootup, dmesg reports "CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled". I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS that would disable hyperthreading |
| 20:46.26 | coventry | I have a Creative Labs X-Fi sound card. alsaconf doesn't know what to do with it. Some (fairly old) comments on the web say there are no linux drivers for it. Am I just SOL? |
| 20:46.32 | Lars_G | sbk: you need a SMP kernel to use ht |
| 20:48.15 | abrotman | yay .. lists.d.o has returned |
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| 20:48.36 | sbk | lars_g: hm, I do have one compiled with smp enabled |
| 20:48.49 | Lars_G | sbk: It should work then, afaik |
| 20:49.23 | Ryushin | Is there a program that will extract the boot.img file from a bootable cdrom? |
| 20:49.41 | sbk | lars_g: I don't suppose there are any magic flags to pass in to help are there? This is a 2.4.24 kernel |
| 20:49.52 | Lars_G | Ryushin: dd but I forget how many blocks of what size to get |
| 20:49.56 | stoned | if I add a few files to the source package, and modify the code as I need it, do I need to modify the .diff file at all, or is modifying the source good enough? |
| 20:50.21 | petemc | sbk: you compiled it yourself? |
| 20:51.20 | sbk | petemc: on this machine that I'm currently looking, no. But I'm looking at the System.map and the uname -a output |
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| 20:51.33 | ma3x | is there easy guide for samba networking setup? |
| 20:51.39 | abrotman | sbk: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 20:51.52 | petemc | sbk: there are things you need in the kernel for ht, like acpi processor enumeration, i think |
| 20:51.56 | abrotman | ma3x: samba.org .. oddly |
| 20:51.59 | abrotman | !ht |
| 20:52.00 | dpkg | ht is, like, Haiti. HyperThreading, a technology from intel included in processors from the P4 3.05 GHz, that emulates two processors in a single cpu machine You must enable CONFIG_ACPI_HT, CONFIG_SMP and CONFIG_CPU_LOBOTOMY in your kernel to use it. |
| 20:52.08 | petemc | sbk: why not just install a more recent kernel, debian kernels work well |
| 20:52.19 | sbk | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 20:52.29 | abrotman | isn't sarge using a 2.4.27? |
| 20:52.50 | sbk | petemc: yes, I'll try that route on a different machine once I have access to it -- this particular one is not my own. |
| 20:53.16 | stoned | when I apt-get source blah, it downloaded orig. .diff .dsc. and it created a directory containing the entire source unpacked. I modified the source in that directory tree, added and removed files as needed. Do I need to modify the .diff file at all, or the orig.tar.gz at all? or will the changes be already compiled in when I build the package |
| 20:53.18 | stoned | anyone? |
| 20:53.28 | stoned | and burrittos are good |
| 20:54.00 | sbk | abrotman: ah, thanks for the info on the config to enable. I'll look at it later then, perhaps some of these weren't enabled |
| 20:54.38 | sbk | abrotman: the dmesg had various things about acpi and smp flying around, which led me to believe that was all that was needed |
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| 20:57.06 | bonzai | hey guys, on kernel.org it says 2.6.18-rc2 is the latest prepatch, and i see "V" and "VI", i am guessing the VI is for the previous patch and the V is for the "latest stable version" |
| 20:57.13 | bonzai | (2.6.17.6) ? |
| 20:57.37 | w00t- | what the config minimal for running dsl ? |
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| 20:57.49 | bonzai | w00t-: pppoe support in the kernel |
| 20:58.03 | abrotman | bonzai: ask #kernel |
| 20:58.03 | w00t- | dsl is a distro ... |
| 20:58.06 | Althaser | bonzai V = view patch, VI = view incremental |
| 20:58.08 | abrotman | w00t-: ask #dsl ? |
| 20:58.15 | bonzai | Althaser: i know what they stand for, that doesn't answer my question |
| 20:58.24 | bonzai | w00t-: unless they just use DHCP then you just need a DHCP client |
| 20:58.30 | w00t- | no one talk |
| 20:58.36 | abrotman | w00t-: sorry .. #damnsmalllinux |
| 20:58.41 | mbishop | w00t-: too bad? this is #debian |
| 20:58.50 | abrotman | w00t-: this is not #damnsmalllinux .. how could we possibly know the requirements for DSL ? |
| 20:59.02 | Althaser | bonzai ah ok sorry |
| 21:00.10 | blondie | DSL requires a phone line |
| 21:00.28 | mbishop | heh |
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| 21:02.02 | blondie | bonzai: pfft, my dsl uses PPPoA |
| 21:02.21 | mbishop | bellsouth is PPPoE |
| 21:02.31 | blondie | its all pppoa in the uk |
| 21:03.08 | bonzai | blondie: that's possible too |
| 21:03.27 | bonzai | blondie: mine is switching me over to DHCP, i can't wait |
| 21:03.30 | bonzai | i'll save a little bandwidth |
| 21:03.39 | bonzai | no more ppp encapsulation |
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| 21:07.20 | dhuv | hello all |
| 21:07.26 | CHodapp | Hiya. |
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| 21:08.33 | dhuv | I am trying to find information on jfs to help me figure out how to setup a new system. We will be storing lots of files and I wanted to know how the performance of jfs was when you increased the number of files in a directory |
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| 21:08.58 | dhuv | basically I wanted some rough estimates on how many files are acceptable in a directory in jfs |
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| 21:10.50 | sng | 4 |
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| 21:11.30 | RichiH | dhuv: google/wikipedia |
| 21:12.25 | petemc | ibm |
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| 21:14.00 | CalJohn | I have a stable box connecting to the lan, and can connect to lan addresses and also internet addresses, but can't do DNS lookups (this machine is on the same lan, and works fine). I'm using a netgear router. any ideas? |
| 21:14.11 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 21:14.11 | dpkg | hmm... filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 21:14.24 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFS |
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| 21:14.52 | CalJohn | I have a stable box connecting to the lan, and can connect to lan addresses and also internet addresses, but can't do DNS lookups (this machine is on the same lan, and works fine). I'm using a netgear router. any ideas? |
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| 21:15.36 | simonrvn | !tell CalJohn about repeat |
| 21:16.08 | CalJohn | simonrvn: sorry, got dc'd, wasn't sure if it went through :) |
| 21:16.13 | killown | !tell CalJohn about repeat |
| 21:16.21 | abrotman | !tell killown about repeat |
| 21:16.23 | CalJohn | !tell killown about repeat |
| 21:16.26 | simonrvn | oh, didn't see that |
| 21:16.53 | killown | !tell abrotman about repeat |
| 21:17.10 | abrotman | yay for morons |
| 21:17.14 | simonrvn | killown: STFU please, ok? it was excessive what you did, and unneeded |
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| 21:18.00 | simonrvn | and now you're just behaving immature... |
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| 21:19.38 | killown | !tell simonrvn about offense |
| 21:20.05 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 21:20.09 | abrotman | killown: lay off the bot |
| 21:20.29 | simonrvn | sheesh |
| 21:21.53 | ma3x | when I plugin the network cable from my linux pc to my windows pc, how do I connect them? should I set static IP addresses? or how do they get their ips? |
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| 21:22.03 | simonrvn | that factoid is full of it, frankly. there *are* real people behind that line of text, the least you can do is try to respect others |
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| 21:22.21 | abrotman | you'd need a dhcp server to automagically give out IPs |
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| 21:22.40 | abrotman | simonrvn: i think it was intended to be humorous |
| 21:22.42 | simonrvn | ma3x: you can set them statically. i usually do. or go the dhcp route like abrotman said |
| 21:22.55 | killown | abrotman yes |
| 21:23.05 | abrotman | ma3x: and if you're not using a hub or switch .. you'll need a crossover cable |
| 21:23.09 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 21:23.10 | ma3x | simonrvn, I've just set them static 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 and I can't ping them, why? |
| 21:23.20 | ma3x | abrotman, yes im doing that with a crossover cable |
| 21:23.26 | simonrvn | abrotman: maybe. i still think it's full of it :) |
| 21:23.28 | abrotman | ma3x: are you 100% sure it's a crossover ? |
| 21:23.48 | abrotman | simonrvn: maybe it was thomas_adams' british humour :) |
| 21:23.48 | simonrvn | look at both ends side by side, one of them should be flipped |
| 21:24.10 | killown | abrotman, "humorous" you said right |
| 21:24.22 | simonrvn | *shrug*. maybe |
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| 21:24.50 | ma3x | abrotman, yes, it's working! it's flashing green |
| 21:24.58 | DevilChaos | hi i have a problem with an avi movie file and wondered if any of you might help me dicover why it isnt playing its title is ice age2.themeltdown.DVDSCR.XVID-DANK.avi |
| 21:24.58 | simonrvn | :) |
| 21:25.02 | ma3x | abrotman, I have another one, and that one is not flashing (i use it for my cable modem) |
| 21:25.13 | DevilChaos | is it because this is an xvid? |
| 21:25.21 | abrotman | killown: don't you have anything better to do? |
| 21:25.40 | abrotman | DevilChaos: might be .. tried w32codecs? |
| 21:25.44 | killown | abrotman yes laugh |
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| 21:25.58 | DevilChaos | cant as i am running 64-bit |
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| 21:26.22 | ma3x | why I can't ping the other comp ip? |
| 21:26.23 | DevilChaos | takes too long to get and answer in other rom |
| 21:26.24 | abrotman | DevilChaos: that sounds like a real problem |
| 21:26.30 | abrotman | ma3x: firewall ? |
| 21:26.35 | ma3x | abrotman, no firewall |
| 21:26.36 | DevilChaos | yeah it is |
| 21:26.36 | ma3x | brb |
| 21:26.40 | abrotman | ma3x: bad subnet? |
| 21:26.43 | abrotman | ok ... |
| 21:27.14 | syntaxx | DevilChaos, totem play xvid |
| 21:27.20 | DevilChaos | i have a hacked version of mplayer though that plays wmv files though |
| 21:27.25 | abrotman | with w32codecs i think |
| 21:27.28 | DevilChaos | ill try |
| 21:27.28 | killown | abchirk, do you don't like of laugh? |
| 21:27.38 | abrotman | killown: really ... please stop |
| 21:27.49 | killown | ok |
| 21:27.51 | DevilChaos | its a binary program |
| 21:28.54 | simonrvn | damned hot.. |
| 21:29.07 | abrotman | it's wonderful outside .. too bad i have to go do laundry .. i'd rather bike |
| 21:29.09 | simonrvn | i'm happy the heat wave broke... |
| 21:29.11 | Ronin | indeed and the rain we just had didnt help |
| 21:29.23 | simonrvn | i just came back from a 3 hour bike ride |
| 21:29.32 | abrotman | more heat! .. bring it on! |
| 21:29.41 | w00t- | simonrvn bike ride suck |
| 21:29.44 | w00t- | take beer is better |
| 21:29.45 | abrotman | i should be living in texas ... |
| 21:29.53 | simonrvn | i don't drink |
| 21:30.00 | w00t- | too young :( |
| 21:30.07 | simonrvn | no, i quit |
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| 21:30.25 | w00t- | drunk4life |
| 21:30.27 | simonrvn | quit pot too |
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| 21:30.33 | w00t- | pot suck |
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| 21:30.49 | mbishop | I don't drink, but I'm not too young either |
| 21:30.50 | DevilChaos | abrotman : the file is 750 mb in sizie but when i try and put it through totem or a player there seems to be nothing to read 00/00 secs |
| 21:30.50 | simonrvn | nah, it's a good thing. it can be used as medicine |
| 21:30.53 | syntaxx | i didnt drink now i cant sleep |
| 21:31.06 | JordiGH | This the place to ask for CUPS help? For some reason, the web interface doesn't like my root password, and yes, I've carefully checked it. I'm inputting it correctly. |
| 21:31.39 | w00t- | simonrvn i luv more beer |
| 21:31.39 | abrotman | JordiGH: what are you up to .. 23 problems in two days? :) |
| 21:32.04 | DevilChaos | hes had 23 in 2 days? |
| 21:32.22 | JordiGH | abrotman: The joys of apt-get dist-upgrade with a mixed testing/unstable system, plus helping a friend get a 2004 copy of sarge on his laptop. I know I must be quite the pest lately. :P |
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| 21:32.32 | abrotman | it's lovely outside .. 97F .. how much better could it get!?! |
| 21:32.52 | abrotman | JordiGH: luckily for me .. i don't own a printer :) |
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| 21:33.13 | abchirk | lol abrotman kill your "B" ;) :D |
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| 21:33.14 | DevilChaos | bbl |
| 21:33.26 | JordiGH | abrotman: Yeah, ahdno... it's printing fine, except I think the paper size is wrong. Do we use A4 or letter in America? |
| 21:33.30 | abrotman | abchirk: i was here long before you |
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| 21:33.37 | abchirk | yes yes |
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| 21:34.11 | abrotman | JordiGH: usually letter |
| 21:34.18 | abrotman | i think A4 is the rest of the world |
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| 21:34.40 | foo | How can I disable root logins? |
| 21:34.54 | JordiGH | foo: From xdm/gdm/kdm? |
| 21:34.55 | abrotman | for what? |
| 21:35.02 | simonrvn | it's only .ca and .us that are retarded and use letter size ... |
| 21:35.04 | abrotman | ssh? gdm? kdm? telnet? rsh ? |
| 21:35.36 | foo | HAHA, wow, that was vague. |
| 21:35.37 | foo | My bad. |
| 21:35.38 | foo | From ssh. |
| 21:35.39 | JordiGH | simonrvn: When I said America, I was thinking of .mx too... I think we use letter. |
| 21:35.46 | simonrvn | A4 is nicer because it's smaller than letter and uses less paper |
| 21:35.48 | evilgeek | abrotman: cu ftw. |
| 21:35.59 | abrotman | uh ok |
| 21:36.10 | JordiGH | foo: You can modify it in /etc/ss/ssh_config. |
| 21:36.16 | evilgeek | "cu" being the "call up a time-sharing system" command. |
| 21:36.19 | simonrvn | JordiGH: ah. when i think america i think the "western" hemisphere ;) |
| 21:36.20 | JordiGH | foo: Pretty self-explanatory config file, as I recall. |
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| 21:36.26 | xsappyx | foo: /etc/ssh/sshd_config PermitRootLogin yes |
| 21:36.42 | xsappyx | foo: change to NO |
| 21:37.04 | JordiGH | simonrvn: Well, a good chunk of Europe is also in the western hemisphere... but we digress. :-) |
| 21:37.08 | foo | xsappyx / JordiGH: err, thanks. I searched the file for root ... not Root. Thanks. |
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| 21:37.34 | novata_peleona | hi... |
| 21:37.54 | novata_peleona | anybody knows how to use mldonkey for download torrents? I am suing kmldonbkey |
| 21:37.56 | simonrvn | ok, clarification statement: when i say western hemisphere i mean anything this side of the atlantic |
| 21:38.01 | JordiGH | probably want to change it to "no" not "NO" too. :-) |
| 21:38.06 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 21:38.11 | simonrvn | or, No |
| 21:38.24 | simonrvn | but i don't think it matters, really |
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| 21:39.03 | damknom | novata_peleona > why not azureus? |
| 21:39.21 | simonrvn | and i'm more likely to say turtle island than north america |
| 21:39.38 | novata_peleona | damknom, cpu and memory consume |
| 21:39.53 | simonrvn | azureus is a hog i hear |
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| 21:40.15 | simonrvn | ok. now for some buffalo and potatoes |
| 21:40.32 | novata_peleona | i was said mldonkey could works good with torrent network |
| 21:40.33 | sclebo05 | besides running apt-get -f install how can i tell apt/dpkg/aptitude to ignore broken packages(not remove stuff i need) |
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| 21:42.55 | simonrvn | sclebo05: no you don't ignore borked packages, you fix them |
| 21:43.13 | sclebo05 | have to ignore |
| 21:43.41 | simonrvn | not a good idea, i have to warn you |
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| 21:44.04 | sclebo05 | jabberd2-mysql requires mysql5, but 4.1 works fine. i want apt to stop bitching about broken, it worx. warning understood, but the maintainer is crazy |
| 21:44.24 | Gnea | sclebo05: what branch are you running? |
| 21:45.03 | JordiGH | Is it even possible to install stuff with apt if packages are broken? This I have to see. |
| 21:45.06 | sclebo05 | overall stable, but pulled jabberd2-mysql and libmysqlclient15off from experimental (big leap i know) works GREAT with mysql5, but complains about missing 5.0 |
| 21:45.14 | simonrvn | uh |
| 21:45.23 | simonrvn | don't do that |
| 21:45.40 | Gnea | sclebo05: well they're experimental, you should expect lameness to occur. did you try looking for the packages in backports? |
| 21:45.49 | simonrvn | experimental is only menat to be run with sid |
| 21:45.53 | Gnea | right. |
| 21:45.54 | simonrvn | meant* |
| 21:46.12 | Gnea | !backports |
| 21:46.12 | dpkg | somebody said backports was a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 21:46.37 | Gnea | oh, backports is the de facto standard in debian for the current stable release |
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| 21:48.31 | sclebo05 | backports appears to have an appropriate package. now i can purge this nonsense and maintain functionality. thx |
| 21:49.28 | JordiGH | Oh, what now, KDE? Why do you say you can't connect to the cups server when cupsd is clearly running? :-/ |
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| 21:57.57 | JordiGH | Whoopee. Printer now works. Had to tell KDE to use lpr instead of cups, for whatever reason. |
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| 22:00.04 | JordiGH | C'mon, bring it on, Debian. What will it be next? Ours is a tough love. |
| 22:00.27 | mbishop | debian just raped your mother |
| 22:01.15 | JordiGH | That bastard won't get away with it, I tell ya! |
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| 22:03.44 | Gnea | punk ass bitches. |
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| 22:04.20 | JordiGH | Now, now, there's no need for such foul language. |
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| 22:06.43 | foo | Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] - any ideas on this problem? I get it with an apt-get update |
| 22:07.22 | JordiGH | foo: The Marillat archives are elsewhere now. |
| 22:07.32 | JordiGH | !tell foo about debian-multimedia |
| 22:07.48 | foo | JordiGH: ah, thanks |
| 22:08.13 | JordiGH | That was for my mother! |
| 22:08.21 | MatBoy | !moo |
| 22:08.22 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 22:09.52 | Gnea | !beer JordiGH |
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| 22:11.05 | JordiGH | I don't drink, but thank you. :-) |
| 22:12.29 | MatBoy | !beer !! |
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| 22:14.24 | JordiGH | Apropos of nothing, does anyone not top-post anymore? I feel like us non-top-posters are a dying breed. |
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| 22:17.36 | rhalff | dpkg doesn't know what ab is, how should I teach him ? :p |
| 22:17.57 | JordiGH | dpkg ab is whatever rhalff says it is. |
| 22:17.58 | dpkg | ...but ab is already something else... |
| 22:18.05 | JordiGH | !ab |
| 22:18.05 | dpkg | [ab] it comes with apache, its a static page with a bunch of images. |
| 22:18.17 | JordiGH | no, dpkg, ab is whatever rhalff says it is. |
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| 22:18.28 | JordiGH | dpkg: no, ab is whatever rhalff says it is. |
| 22:18.28 | dpkg | okay, JordiGH |
| 22:18.30 | simonrvn | don't fuck with the factoids like that |
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| 22:19.07 | JordiGH | Sorry, I was trying to exemplify. I guess I didn't realise the smiley meant rhalff wasn't serious. |
| 22:19.28 | rhalff | JordiGH, ab is the Apache HTTP server benchmarking tool |
| 22:19.29 | rhalff | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.33 | darren_ | if I can see xmame in http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/x/xmame/ , what do I need to add into sources.list to access it? |
| 22:19.43 | rhalff | no clue on how to feed it, you do it :D |
| 22:20.08 | JordiGH | dpkg ab is the Apache HTTP server benchmarking tool and it coems with Apache. |
| 22:20.09 | dpkg | ...but ab is already something else... |
| 22:20.16 | DerJamster | Hokay, the folks in #iptables seems silent. Question: is it possible to change the only(!) the source or destination ports of forwarded packets with iptables, without needing to know/specify any kind of IPs? |
| 22:20.22 | JordiGH | dpkg no, ab is the Apache HTTP server benchmarking tool and it coems with Apache. |
| 22:20.23 | dpkg | JordiGH: okay |
| 22:20.53 | simonrvn | !no ab is <reply> ab is 'apache benchmark'. it gives you an idea on how the daemon processes documents. be aware of the various overheads like disk I/O, network, and other things when you use it. better yet, 'man ab'. |
| 22:20.53 | dpkg | okay, simonrvn |
| 22:21.40 | Knorrie | DerJamster: no, with Source NAT you need to provide a new source address for the packets, and with Destination NAT a destination |
| 22:21.52 | DerJamster | Hrm. Dammit. |
| 22:21.57 | DerJamster | Thanks tho :> |
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| 22:22.27 | DerJamster | I just wish it had some form of labels for addresses..like..<same> or something. |
| 22:22.47 | DerJamster | Would sometimes be very handy in iptable rules. |
| 22:22.53 | simonrvn | JordiGH: sorry, didn't realise you added a nice one when i hit return |
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| 22:24.46 | Jemt | Greetz. How do I report a bug in kernel 2.6.16-2-686 ? |
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| 22:24.55 | simonrvn | !reportbug |
| 22:24.58 | dpkg | i guess reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian BTS. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
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| 22:25.05 | Jemt | Thanks :) |
| 22:25.07 | JordiGH | S'ok, mate. We're all friends here. :-) |
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| 22:25.31 | lex | Sheesh |
| 22:25.51 | poli | Hello all. How do I play a MIDI file on Debian? |
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| 22:26.41 | JordiGH | poli: midis are complicated by patent issues, as I recall. You should apt-get timidity and freepats. Good luck. |
| 22:26.45 | lex | Damn... im on a mexican timezone... i try to sync by ntp to a windows ADS server (get us working as a samba domain member for an ADS network)... and ill be damned... the time in the windows server looks right, but on the linux server it shows an hour ahead |
| 22:26.59 | lex | Anyone knows why? My timezone is right and all... i cant think of a reason |
| 22:26.59 | Lars_G | I give up, I want to recompile several courier packages but courier-webmail is making my life impossible. Is there any way to skip it while building the debs? please? |
| 22:27.07 | poli | JordiGH: I have both. What I dont have is /dev/sequencer... |
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| 22:27.59 | JordiGH | poli: Sorry, that's as far as I know. I've never been patient enough to get freepats to trickle down my connection myself. :-/ |
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| 22:28.10 | kreg_work | i dorked the permissions on /etc/network/interfaces. can someone tell me what they should be defaultly? |
| 22:28.25 | simonrvn | you dork :P |
| 22:28.25 | Knorrie | kreg_work: rw-r--r-- |
| 22:28.29 | poli | JordiGH: Seems like udev doesnt have it by default, even if it is in /dev/.static/dev. Well, thanks for the help. :) |
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| 22:28.37 | Cooner750 | I am about to give up on this.. |
| 22:28.46 | simonrvn | root root 5.5K 2005-02-14 04:41 /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:28.56 | simonrvn | woops, and that ^^ |
| 22:29.02 | Cooner750 | I cant get X to start |
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| 22:29.16 | poli | Cooner750: did you do a X -probeonly ? |
| 22:29.42 | JordiGH | Cooner750: What do the logs in /var/log say? |
| 22:29.54 | Cooner750 | I'd have to write it all down. I have no GUI.. |
| 22:30.13 | Lars_G | please :'( |
| 22:30.16 | poli | Cooner750: try a X -probeonly > /tmp/Xout 2>&1 |
| 22:30.30 | Knorrie | Lars_G: dont cry ;) |
| 22:30.46 | Lars_G | I'm so fed up with this, I've done and undone so MUCH already |
| 22:30.58 | simonrvn | Lars_G: it's ok dude... you can comment out the build for it in the debian/rules file maybe |
| 22:31.03 | Lars_G | I fixed a library dep in it and now I have what seems to be version troubles. |
| 22:31.07 | poli | Lars_G: I always keep stuff under version control. ;) |
| 22:31.10 | Lars_G | simonrvn: I'll check |
| 22:31.27 | Cooner750 | I'm running Xfree86, what command do I run? |
| 22:31.54 | poli | Cooner750: X -probeonly > /tmp/Xout 2>&1 |
| 22:31.57 | JordiGH | Cooner750: I'd begin by reading the log. less /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 22:32.09 | poli | Or that. |
| 22:32.36 | JordiGH | Cooner750: I'm willing to bet it's a problem with your video driver or monitor. At least, that's the most common problem I personally get. |
| 22:32.57 | JordiGH | Cooner750: Look at the tail of the log. The stuff marked with EE is what we should be worrying about. |
| 22:32.58 | Cooner750 | I remember reading something about the mouse device could not be found |
| 22:33.10 | poli | Yeah... that or your mouse isnt connected (I get this one a lot) |
| 22:33.17 | poli | Cooner750: bingo. |
| 22:33.20 | Cooner750 | It's connected all right |
| 22:33.23 | Cooner750 | on the PS/2 port |
| 22:33.30 | JordiGH | Cooner750: Confirm it. If the mouse device isn't working, you should read about it in the log. |
| 22:34.08 | Cooner750 | Time to restart. _again_ |
| 22:34.12 | JordiGH | Er, why? |
| 22:34.21 | simonrvn | restart X i hope :) |
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| 22:34.24 | Cooner750 | I'm in Windows.. I |
| 22:34.28 | poli | lol |
| 22:34.30 | poli | the legacy |
| 22:34.32 | simonrvn | oh, hehe |
| 22:34.37 | Cooner750 | If I cant get Debian to work I have to restart into Windows for help |
| 22:34.44 | JordiGH | Wait, hold on. |
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| 22:34.56 | JordiGH | You can read the ext2/3 partition from that other operating system. |
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| 22:34.56 | Viking1 | anyone have a fix for this error for 2.6.18-rc2 kernel |
| 22:35.00 | Viking1 | The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h |
| 22:35.05 | Viking1 | error? |
| 22:35.07 | Cooner750 | What program should I use to view the log? |
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| 22:35.08 | poli | damn he doesnt know there are console IRC clients |
| 22:35.09 | JordiGH | You can read the ext2/3 partition from that other operating system. |
| 22:35.35 | poli | Cooner750: There are text-only IRC clients... |
| 22:35.37 | JordiGH | Google for Explore2fs... it might save you a few reboots. |
| 22:35.38 | poli | Ok, now he knows. |
| 22:35.42 | Cooner750 | I've only installed xfce4, gdm, and x-window-system-core |
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| 22:35.57 | poli | Cooner750: apt-get install irssi ;) |
| 22:36.01 | Lars_G | What about if I move/delete all the debian/courier-pcp.* files? |
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| 22:36.07 | Lars_G | (pcp is the one giving troubles, afaik) |
| 22:36.11 | Cooner750 | I guess... I'll try. What can I view the logs with? |
| 22:36.21 | poli | Cooner750: cat or less |
| 22:36.28 | simonrvn | Lars_G: that could work too |
| 22:36.30 | shining | Viking1: bugs.debian.org |
| 22:36.50 | Viking1 | a solution? |
| 22:36.59 | Lars_G | simonrvn: Are the debian/something.conffiles / preinst etc etc read automatically when building the packages? |
| 22:37.10 | Viking1 | since 2.6.18-1 and now -2 both have it |
| 22:37.16 | Viking1 | so its not going away I guess |
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| 22:37.26 | shining | Viking1: when there is a bug, you go there |
| 22:37.38 | Lars_G | AHA |
| 22:37.41 | Lars_G | here they are! |
| 22:37.42 | shining | if it's already reported, you read |
| 22:37.43 | cjaymes | !marillat |
| 22:37.43 | dpkg | marillat is probably a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 22:37.44 | Viking1 | but that bug now is on 2 builds -1 and -2 |
| 22:37.45 | simonrvn | Lars_G: during the build and package making process they're used to set up the .debs |
| 22:37.47 | shining | otherwise you report it |
| 22:37.50 | Lars_G | debian/control |
| 22:38.07 | Lars_G | simonrvn: I guess they're built because they're set in the control file, right? |
| 22:38.16 | Lars_G | Since in rules there's no rule to build it that I can read |
| 22:38.20 | simonrvn | yeh, that's another way. in that file you have to remove the bits you want, no comments allowed |
| 22:39.18 | shining | Viking1: ok I'll help you, it's already reported, but there was only a broken fix last time I checked. |
| 22:39.26 | Lars_G | I preffer the control since it's the source it should be the cleanest way to remove |
| 22:39.29 | Lars_G | thanks a lot simonrvn |
| 22:39.31 | simonrvn | np |
| 22:39.40 | Lars_G | I am starting to like dpkg, it's nicer than it seems at first |
| 22:39.44 | shining | Viking1: it's faster to just go there directly than going first on irc, you know :) |
| 22:39.49 | simonrvn | yes, it's awesome |
| 22:40.20 | Lars_G | Now I need to drop debuild someday and learn the dpkg-* tools :) |
| 22:40.27 | simonrvn | getting dirty in the build process is when you really appreciate .debs and debhelper |
| 22:40.33 | Lars_G | yeah |
| 22:40.41 | Lars_G | simonrvn: I wish there was a debian repository |
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| 22:40.48 | simonrvn | for? |
| 22:41.04 | Lars_G | simonrvn: I mean, a repo with the ./debian directories maintainers use for packages, instead of having to pull them from the diffs |
| 22:41.18 | cjaymes | what is dpkg written in? |
| 22:41.55 | Lars_G | Of course some diffs include not only the ./debian struct but also debian-made patches for code, but it'd still be nice to be able to fetch the ./debian dir for all maintained packages independently :) |
| 22:42.00 | simonrvn | oh. i've fetched the debian/ files straight from the diff without having the source |
| 22:42.14 | simonrvn | some packages do, see alioth |
| 22:42.15 | Lars_G | simonrvn: Me too, it's just the lazy sod speaking |
| 22:42.19 | JordiGH | cjaymes: That's a very good question... Let's find out! |
| 22:42.33 | simonrvn | perl, C, and other bits |
| 22:42.38 | Lars_G | simonrvn: Is there a graphical patch tool out there? to be able to examine the blocks in a diff file and work with them gui-wise? |
| 22:42.40 | cjaymes | mostly perl? |
| 22:42.52 | cjaymes | I need to duplicate some of the efforts in php... |
| 22:42.58 | simonrvn | some backend stuff is perl, dpkg is a C binary IIRC |
| 22:43.04 | MatBoy | !beer MatBoy to get him drunk !!! (it's needed) |
| 22:43.06 | Lars_G | cjaymes: Check the cvs/svn repo, it's always fun to read other people's code. |
| 22:43.06 | kreg_work | i just touched a file called iptables and put it in /etc. i then did a iptables-save > /etc/iptables. if i make a script and use update-rc.d, how do i know what to put in the script to start and stop iptables? |
| 22:43.11 | simonrvn | Lars_G: a few |
| 22:43.18 | Lars_G | simonrvn: What's your fave? |
| 22:43.23 | cjaymes | Lars_G, you forgot the ":)" after that :) |
| 22:43.27 | simonrvn | i use the CLI one |
| 22:43.31 | Lars_G | simonrvn: so far all I've used is the CLI one |
| 22:43.35 | Lars_G | simonrvn: Yeah me too |
| 22:44.42 | cjaymes | hmm, I think it would be faster to just learn how it does things at a higher level than reading the code |
| 22:44.59 | jelly-home | kreg_work: there's the old script in /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/oldinitdscript.gz , you could take a look at that |
| 22:45.29 | cureless | Lars_G: how about one of the diff guis? apt-get search xdiff |
| 22:45.54 | kreg_work | jelly-home, i'm guess i'm saying, i can't think of anything else to put in /etc/init.d/iptables other than one line. "iptables-restore < /etc/iptables" |
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| 22:46.18 | jelly-home | kreg_work: you could have something for a stop argument. |
| 22:46.20 | Jemt | How can I see what graphic card I have? It's a GeForce 4 Ti-something |
| 22:46.27 | Jemt | I need the model number |
| 22:46.29 | simonrvn | lspci |
| 22:46.33 | Jemt | Ah yea, thanks |
| 22:46.34 | kreg_work | jelly-home, ah ok. i'll check the old script and see what it does |
| 22:46.35 | cjaymes | lol; I forgot what this word means: hirsute |
| 22:46.43 | simonrvn | very hairy |
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| 22:46.50 | cjaymes | that describes one of my girlfriends :) |
| 22:47.07 | simonrvn | one of? heh |
| 22:47.14 | Lars_G | simonrvn: It's still trying to build the packages. what else can I check? |
| 22:47.20 | cjaymes | I can't help it, it's genetics :) |
| 22:47.27 | Lars_G | for example whats srcmgr.list used for? |
| 22:47.34 | Lars_G | or it's not part of debian's system? |
| 22:47.43 | jelly-home | kreg_work: it's probably too complicated. Maybe just put in a simple case "$1" in ... and do your stuff. |
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| 22:47.57 | simonrvn | that lists the files in that package |
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| 22:48.39 | Lars_G | sigh a simple grep for webmail in the root yields many stuff, including Makefile.am and Makefile.in |
| 22:48.44 | Lars_G | I'm in for a fun ride, am I not? |
| 22:48.49 | nate_ | hey all...I have a bad disk with an ext3 filesystem on it...From badblocks it appears 4 blocks are bad |
| 22:49.09 | simonrvn | courier IIRC is a PITA to deal with WRT builds |
| 22:49.09 | Jemt | Hm, there is no 'nvidia-glx' driver for Debian? The package exists on Ubuntu |
| 22:49.13 | nate_ | I'm trying to find out which files are damaged...but I'm not sure how |
| 22:49.23 | simonrvn | Jemt: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 22:49.33 | nate_ | I've tried copying them to /dev/null and watch for errors, but I don't see anything |
| 22:49.35 | Jemt | simonrvn: I have already enabled non-free |
| 22:49.45 | simonrvn | did you update? |
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| 22:49.54 | nate_ | is there a way to do this? maybe with debugfs or something else? |
| 22:49.55 | pagey | How one one change permissions,EG" I can only run d/load from digikam as root,How does one change this? |
| 22:50.01 | simonrvn | need contrib, too, eh |
| 22:50.15 | Jemt | Oh, thanks :) |
| 22:50.28 | Jemt | simonrvn: Hm, already added too |
| 22:50.37 | Jemt | simonrvn: 'testing main contrib non-free' |
| 22:50.51 | simonrvn | did you update? |
| 22:50.53 | cjaymes | bleh, I see lots of docs on how to use debian tools, but don't see lots on how they actually work |
| 22:51.25 | cureless | Lars_G: there are also kdiff3 and kompare if you're ok with qt |
| 22:51.40 | Lars_G | I'm fed up |
| 22:51.56 | Lars_G | I'm editing all, and I mean ALL mentions of pcp and webmail out of this hellhole |
| 22:52.01 | Lars_G | makefiles, configs, everyhting |
| 22:52.06 | shining | hmm |
| 22:52.08 | Jemt | simonrvn: Yep |
| 22:52.18 | shining | testing doesnt seem to have nvidia-glx |
| 22:52.21 | simonrvn | ok |
| 22:52.21 | shining | just the legacy one |
| 22:52.24 | cjaymes | can I have your pcp if you don't want it? |
| 22:52.28 | kreg_work | so why doesn't debian already have a standard decision on something ready to go in /etc/init.d/iptables for starting and stoping? |
| 22:52.33 | shining | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?suite=testing&subword=1&exact=&arch=any§ion=all&case=insensitive&keywords=nvidia-glx&searchon=names |
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| 22:53.04 | Jemt | shining: Exactly |
| 22:53.11 | shining | it isn't the only package iirc |
| 22:53.20 | shining | so you need to use stable/testing |
| 22:53.22 | shining | not only testing |
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| 22:53.50 | MarGarina | Kernel 2.6.17 added console buffer in ram!! evil, gonna test it in few mins |
| 22:54.36 | Jemt | shining: I can add both stable, testing and unstable in repositories at the same time ? |
| 22:54.46 | dabreegster | MarGarina: Any new features or just an optimization? |
| 22:54.48 | Jemt | shining: (I know it's not a good idea :) |
| 22:55.03 | balou | MarGarina, isnt that supported since ages? |
| 22:55.04 | nixie | Jemt: with pinning, and apt-get -t testing/unstable intall |
| 22:55.04 | shining | Jemt: if you do that, you'll get everything from unstable |
| 22:55.13 | nixie | ask dpkg about pinning |
| 22:55.18 | Jemt | nixie: 'pinning' ? |
| 22:55.25 | Jemt | shining: Ok |
| 22:55.32 | shining | Jemt: if you just use stable/testing as I said, it should work like you want |
| 22:55.40 | shining | I didn't talk about unstable, did I? |
| 22:55.40 | Jemt | shining: Well, seems that the nvidia-glx is only available for XFree (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nvidia-glx&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all) |
| 22:55.51 | simonrvn | don't mix stable and testing |
| 22:55.59 | Gnea | shining: bad idea. |
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| 22:56.08 | Gnea | Jemt: please, ignore everything that shining has said. |
| 22:56.11 | Jemt | Okay |
| 22:56.15 | shining | then you have to mess with pinning |
| 22:56.18 | Gnea | Jemt: use backports with sarge/stable instead |
| 22:56.20 | Gnea | !backports |
| 22:56.21 | dpkg | it has been said that backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 22:56.25 | Jemt | I have been mixing testing with unstable (I installed the kernel from there) |
| 22:56.28 | Gnea | shining: nope, that's what backports are for. |
| 22:56.31 | Lars_G | this code is not gonna beat me |
| 22:56.45 | Jemt | Thanks |
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| 22:57.34 | podadan | Hi! I have a debian sarge server what is wrong |
| 22:57.45 | podadan | in this etc/network/interfaces : http://rafb.net/paste/results/QKtUHd36.html |
| 22:57.55 | shining | why doesn't the search feature work? |
| 22:57.57 | shining | http://backports.org/package.php?search=nvidia |
| 22:59.32 | Gnea | http://backports.org/package.php?search=xorg |
| 22:59.35 | Gnea | works fine here. |
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| 22:59.46 | Gnea | shining: if it's not there, then there won't be any results. |
| 22:59.52 | jelly-home | podadan: do you want static ip or dhcp? |
| 23:00.37 | podadan | static |
| 23:00.37 | podadan | the # say to edit below |
| 23:00.37 | podadan | but it doesn't work |
| 23:01.06 | shining | Gnea: well, you are telling him to use backport for a package it doesn't have? makes sense |
| 23:01.11 | jelly-home | podadan: I'd remove all the etherconf stuff. |
| 23:01.39 | podadan | That what I was thinking |
| 23:01.56 | podadan | maybe adding network |
| 23:01.58 | podadan | ? |
| 23:02.05 | Gnea | shining: if there isn't a backport, then one needs to be written. is there some reason that an upgrade to the nvidia drivers is absolutely necessary? |
| 23:02.20 | podadan | but I don't know what to put |
| 23:02.43 | jelly-home | podadan: network 192.168.1.0 |
| 23:02.45 | shining | we aren't talking about an upgrade |
| 23:02.49 | nile | podadan, I'd suggest removing everything between the two comment lines |
| 23:02.51 | shining | there isn't any package at all |
| 23:03.04 | Gnea | in sarge? |
| 23:03.15 | podadan | Thx both I"ll try |
| 23:03.18 | shining | testing |
| 23:03.28 | jelly-home | podadan: your IP & (binary and) your netmask == your network. |
| 23:03.44 | Gnea | oh well testing is always changing, don't depend on it to work right all the time. |
| 23:04.06 | nile | jelly-home, what's the 'network' field supposed to mean? |
| 23:04.36 | nile | jelly-home, according to the man page, it's only required for 2.0 kernels. is there another reason for it? |
| 23:05.35 | shining | well, it isn't the only package in this case. other packages are or were only in stable and unstable |
| 23:05.44 | jelly-home | nile: I didn't even know there was a concrete reason, just vaguely remember something didn't work if it was missing. |
| 23:05.58 | Jemt | Bugger. nvidia-glx is not in Backports either |
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| 23:06.06 | kreg_work | seriously, what is the standard debian system for starting and stopping iptales "out of the box" not hand made. |
| 23:06.07 | shining | I thought only using these rare packages from stable would work, sorry if I was wrong |
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| 23:06.22 | shining | Jemt: really? it seemed like it was, but the search feature didn't work |
| 23:06.34 | shining | http://backports.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ |
| 23:06.34 | foo | How can I change the font size in xterm? Don't seem to see it in the man page? Either I can modify some global setting .. or I can just specify it when opening xterm... either way, hmm |
| 23:06.34 | nile | jelly-home, ah, okay then |
| 23:07.00 | Gnea | you can always add the backports info to your sources.list and apt-cache search |
| 23:07.27 | jelly-home | nile: otoh, the script sometimes gets broadcast address wrong, so it's best to put it there explicitely. |
| 23:07.33 | wils0n__ | Anybody know how to change the color of a directory in ls --color=tty ? |
| 23:07.59 | dabreegster | wils0n__: $LS_COLORS |
| 23:08.14 | wils0n__ | ah hah |
| 23:08.14 | jelly-home | wils0n__: also, man dircolors |
| 23:08.15 | wils0n__ | thanks |
| 23:08.17 | kreg_work | surely, just like fedora and others, there is an init tools all ready to go for iptables. what is it? |
| 23:08.37 | wils0n__ | sweet.. I see /etc/DIR_COLORS, I just wasnt sure what to do with it |
| 23:09.11 | jelly-home | kreg_work: it's the one in doc/iptables/examples/ and the maintainer removed it fom the package a while ago. |
| 23:09.28 | kreg_work | jelly-home, ya i get that. i'm just saying what is "today's" ? |
| 23:10.21 | kreg_work | you know, like redhat. you put a iptables settings into memory. when you are done, you sipmly just do "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables". then with the init script, i can just simply say "iptables start or stop" and it will read from /etc/sysconfig/iptables. |
| 23:10.29 | kreg_work | so what is "debians" system out of the box for that? |
| 23:10.37 | jelly-home | kreg_work: did you read the comments in the script and in README.Debian? |
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| 23:10.56 | podadan | works guy thx |
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| 23:10.58 | podadan | ! |
| 23:11.46 | kreg_work | jelly-home, well yes, it does what i want. yet it was chosen by the demi-debian gods to be removed. so to obey the debian system, what do i use today? |
| 23:11.49 | selim | can someone help me with a little question, I try to reconfigure pppoe configuration, is it sufficant to change the chap-secrets user file and change the user entry in the peers/options file? |
| 23:12.06 | selim | or do I have to change some other files to do a correct authentification? |
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| 23:13.18 | jelly-home | kreg_work: you can still use it, it just isn't set up by default. |
| 23:13.36 | kreg_work | ok. so what is today's default? |
| 23:13.43 | jelly-home | kreg_work: there is none. |
| 23:14.11 | kreg_work | is there a debain approach for that reason? |
| 23:14.38 | jelly-home | kreg_work: use any of firewall packages mentioned in iptables/README.Debian.gz, use the old script, or make your own. |
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| 23:16.58 | kreg_work | debian is too large of a population to lack such a thing to have already setup standard out of the box. |
| 23:17.23 | kreg_work | or i simply don't understand the reasoning |
| 23:17.25 | jelly-home | kreg_work: maintainer of iptables apparently disagrees with you. |
| 23:18.49 | bws42 | I'll admit, I find it a bit odd as well |
| 23:19.13 | bws42 | but I just wrote my own and copy it from box to box |
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| 23:19.50 | kreg_work | i stopped using slackware a while ago. |
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| 23:20.21 | shining | why? |
| 23:20.46 | kreg_work | because i'm past the curiosity, and want to distrobution to do the work now. |
| 23:21.05 | kreg_work | hence why i find it odd about iptables handled in debian |
| 23:21.30 | robin_sz | kreg_work, in almsot every other system you can do /etc/init.d/foobar status |
| 23:21.31 | kreg_work | i got work to do, less time i customize the happier. |
| 23:22.01 | kreg_work | but i can't wait around for yum to do an install. so i stick with debian |
| 23:22.06 | jelly-home | kreg_work: fwiw, we use custom scripts at work, old init script for some other servers I admin, and hand tuned lokkit script at home. |
| 23:23.33 | jelly-home | kreg_work: You can easily set up the old /etc/init.d/iptables, just put an empty iptables-save > /var/lib/iptables/inactive , a working setup into /var/lib/iptables/active and that's it. |
| 23:23.47 | robin_sz | kreg_work, why not simply invoke the iptable-save and iptables-restore scripts, as needed huh/ |
| 23:24.44 | kreg_work | robin_sz, i do. i just want to be able to say /etc/init.d/iptables stop and expect them to flush. and start, and expect my iptables-save to be read. also, i don't want to think bout the init system structure. i want to know the script is starting before any network services and it's in the right place. |
| 23:25.08 | kreg_work | things i just assum the distro did the thinking for me. |
| 23:25.38 | jelly-home | kreg_work: then install one of the easy-firewall-setup packages. |
| 23:25.39 | robin_sz | well, why not simply put iptables restore into your network init script/ |
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| 23:25.48 | kreg_work | this is not complaints. this is just kreg blah blah blahing |
| 23:25.50 | guilherme-jorge | hello all, I would like to know if FAM provides a interface to programming functions based on each event?? |
| 23:26.02 | guilherme-jorge | Any reference? |
| 23:26.51 | kreg_work | robin_sz, i could, but debian barks at the concept of an rc.local, which is basically what you just described, therefore breaking debian's idea |
| 23:27.09 | jelly-home | robin_sz: what happens on ifup/ifdown? what happens if you want to flush the tables? It's not just iptables-restore blah. |
| 23:27.09 | kreg_work | yes that too |
| 23:27.54 | jelly-home | kreg_work: and it's your machine, you don't have to follow Debian policies blindly. |
| 23:28.12 | Viking1 | Is there a fix for this? |
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| 23:32.19 | simonrvn | ~wb |
| 23:32.20 | apt | thx |
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| 23:32.38 | Virusmaster | robin_sz: =) would be an idea... |
| 23:33.22 | shining | Virusmaster: are you kidding? |
| 23:33.27 | grendal_prime | i got thi sprinter keeps shutting itself off...(in the cups) and i have to restart it as the root user. is there a way to assign some sort of rights to the..average user to do this? |
| 23:33.36 | shining | Viking1: |
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| 23:35.30 | shining | Viking1: do I have to go at your place, and learn you how to handle mouse and keyboard ? |
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| 23:36.19 | shining | Viking1: do you realize you want to use a development kernel version, and you don't even know how to search? |
| 23:36.41 | shining | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377267 |
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| 23:38.22 | kreg_work | heh heh, the iptables maintainer says in the first few lines "did i mention don't use this", and yet describes a wondering iptables init solution |
| 23:38.32 | kreg_work | s/wondering/wonderful |
| 23:38.43 | Jemt | Weird. I have two network adapters in my computer. Sometimes the onboard card is eth0 and the PCI card eth1, sometimes the PCI is eth0 and the onboard eth1. I think it's a bug in kernel 2.6.16-2-686. Can I solve this myself ? |
| 23:38.55 | shining | Jemt: yes |
| 23:39.01 | shining | Jemt: with an udev rule |
| 23:39.04 | Jemt | shining: Great. How ? |
| 23:39.06 | Jemt | Oh ? |
| 23:39.25 | stew | Jemt: if you install udev, it will keep them from changing, if you dont' want udev, use ifrename |
| 23:39.47 | shining | Jemt: are you using udev? |
| 23:40.04 | Jemt | I'm not sure whether I'm using udev. How can I check that ? |
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| 23:44.22 | Virusmaster | shining: why should i be kidding... Its frustrating, but he is right |
| 23:44.41 | shining | Virusmaster: I wasn't talking to you, sorry |
| 23:45.00 | shining | I don't really master irssi's completion |
| 23:45.08 | Jemt | stew: The PC keeps switching cards - so I guess the file is missing. But let me just check :) |
| 23:45.22 | Virusmaster | although i would give a lot if i knew how i could roll back to the older version |
| 23:45.26 | shining | stew: I had just one rule for one card here |
| 23:45.58 | shining | probably because debian doesn't provide ipw firmwares, so the card wasn't available during install |
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| 23:46.15 | shining | so it only made a rule for the lan card, not the wireless one |
| 23:46.21 | Jemt | stew: The file is present. It's not working probably though |
| 23:46.21 | shining | this isn't enough |
| 23:46.44 | stew | Jemt: when did you upgrade udev last? when was the last time they switched? |
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| 23:47.12 | stew | Jemt: this is a brand new feature in udev, so if you just upgraded recently it wouldn't be suprising if they switched ONCE since then |
| 23:47.13 | abchirk | how i can find out if auth is loaded by apache2? |
| 23:47.15 | Jemt | It switched 5 minutes ago - when I rebooted. I installed kernel 2.6.16 half an hour ago along with udev |
| 23:47.39 | abchirk | i looked in mods_enabled there isnt it |
| 23:47.43 | shining | either stew ignored me, or he's blind |
| 23:47.53 | Virusmaster | can someone tell me, how to get the old version of proftpd-mysql back? (1.2.10-27+b1) |
| 23:48.14 | shining | Jemt: I actually made many reboot with this file there, it didn't stop switching |
| 23:48.30 | shining | because this file is _incomplete_ . is it for you? |
| 23:48.35 | Jemt | shining: Yea, annoying |
| 23:48.48 | Jemt | shining: I don't know what it should look like |
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| 23:49.15 | stew | shining: i don't see how it matters if you only have one card |
| 23:49.41 | shining | stew: don't ask me, ask udev |
| 23:49.57 | shining | stew: I've 2 cards, but there is only one rule for one card |
| 23:50.36 | stew | shining: oh, i thought you said you had one rule for one card |
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| 23:51.37 | shining | Jemt: since I didn't want to edit the z*.rules file, I just made another one : |
| 23:51.39 | shining | cat /etc/udev/rules.d/010_netinterfaces.rules |
| 23:51.39 | shining | SUBSYSTEM=="net", SYSFS{address}=="00:12:f0:90:79:fc", NAME="wlan0" |
| 23:51.39 | shining | SUBSYSTEM=="net", SYSFS{address}=="00:0a:e4:33:7b:d5", NAME="lan0" |
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| 23:52.44 | shining | I thought pasting 3 lines was ok :p |
| 23:52.50 | Jemt | shining: Yea, me too |
| 23:52.58 | Jemt | shining: Is that working for you ? |
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| 23:53.05 | shining | Jemt: sure |
| 23:53.14 | Jemt | Nice |
| 23:53.16 | shining | Jemt: just edit the mac address of course |
| 23:53.20 | Jemt | Don't understand the filename though |
| 23:53.25 | Jemt | Yep :) |
| 23:53.35 | shining | Jemt: and choose the name interface you want |
| 23:53.48 | shining | then edit /etc/network/interfaces accordingly |
| 23:53.58 | kreg_work | let's say one made his own iptables script. woulding i want to update-rc.d something like 00 for it? i think it would be normal to have the firewall in place first before anything else. |
| 23:54.11 | hans0lo | Some of my co workers are having a tough time with the CLI. I am looking for a user, and samba admin GUI tool, (web or X based) that is similar to the one packaged with Fedora. Any suggestions? |
| 23:54.25 | unix_infidel | hans0lo: smb4k |
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| 23:54.33 | Jemt | shining: Ok, will do. But should I call the file the same as yours ? |
| 23:54.43 | kreg_work | hans0lo, i found the webmin samba plugin to be helpful |
| 23:54.46 | shining | Jemt: you don't need to |
| 23:55.09 | unix_infidel | hans0lo: what do you mean samba admin gui |
| 23:55.11 | unix_infidel | ? |
| 23:55.11 | kreg_work | hans0lo, then i realized most of my problems were not samba, but lack of my understanding of how windows does smb stuff. |
| 23:55.11 | shining | Jemt: especially the netinterfaces name |
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| 23:55.42 | simonrvn | @kill webmin |
| 23:55.46 | simonrvn | !swat |
| 23:55.47 | dpkg | well, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 23:55.47 | shining | Jemt: you may need to leave the 010 number in front, so it's loaded first, and the .rules extension because the other files have it too |
| 23:55.53 | hans0lo | Ok, thanks guys. Any other suggestions? |
| 23:55.56 | unix_infidel | kreg_work: windows smb file sharing protocol is easy, its the rest of smb protocol that's messy. |
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| 23:56.01 | simonrvn | hans0lo: ^^^ |
| 23:56.02 | Jemt | shining: Oh, ok. Thanks :) |
| 23:56.08 | unix_infidel | hans0lo: define what you mean buy samba admin gui. |
| 23:56.13 | unix_infidel | what do you want the software to do. |
| 23:56.26 | kreg_work | unix_infidel, well for example. setting up workstations mixed with both win98 and winxp |
| 23:56.30 | hans0lo | unix_infidel: Add/remove shares, add/remove/change users |
| 23:56.38 | kreg_work | to all feed from a common samba server for read AND write privileges. |
| 23:56.39 | kreg_work | messy |
| 23:57.00 | shining | Jemt: and the mac address in lower cases is needed. it doesnt work with upper cases (ie you can't copy/paste from ifconfig) |
| 23:57.01 | unix_infidel | hans0lo: swat does that pretty well, its got a lot of overhead an unecessary stuff, but its good. |
| 23:57.17 | hans0lo | unix_infidel: swat lacks user tools |
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| 23:57.31 | struct | hhmmm |
| 23:57.33 | unix_infidel | kreg_work: the only reason i ask is that some people mistakenly refer to samba admin gui as some sort of client that 'MANAGES' their shares for easy access. |
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| 23:59.07 | Jemt | shining: Ok, good to know :) |
| 23:59.10 | Jemt | shining: Thanks :) |
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