| 00:00.00 | waiting | opee2: works ok |
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| 00:00.16 | opee2 | waiting: blob? |
| 00:00.16 | stoned | plus, Im sure no one around in my building even has a fucking computer |
| 00:00.22 | waiting | is not to be encouraged either because - since I have it - I don't care for development of the driver anymore |
| 00:00.37 | waiting | so it's actually "bad for linux" |
| 00:00.40 | waiting | :S |
| 00:00.51 | nvz | stoned: turn off the essid broadcast keeps most morons out. if they know how to find it without it broadcasting chances are if they wanted to they could spoof the mac id and all that |
| 00:01.05 | waiting | but next adapter I buy will be after compatibility check anyhow |
| 00:01.13 | stoned | nvz, of course, that too |
| 00:01.31 | opee2 | ndiswrapper |
| 00:01.34 | opee2 | oops |
| 00:02.03 | mrcoyote | Hello |
| 00:02.47 | waiting | opee2: there's good reason this crap is not in official debian. needs a custom kernel module, too |
| 00:02.51 | nvz | spundun_: apt-get install java-package and download the self extracting .bin file from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp |
| 00:03.07 | waiting | opee2: as a last resort, it may work |
| 00:03.13 | nvz | spundun_: build a deb with make-jpkg and dpkg -i sun-j2re.deb or whatever |
| 00:04.02 | opee2 | waiting: so if i need to do ndiswrapper i will have to a custom job? |
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| 00:04.34 | stoned | im talking to this dutch guy, whos apparantly on a tripple stack white apple, otherwise known as pure MDMA, and hes on irc |
| 00:04.40 | stoned | either its bullshit, or he really is a loser |
| 00:04.56 | spundun_ | nvz: thanks... I have already installed eclipse which installed java-gcj-compat... there won't be any conflicts, will there? |
| 00:05.03 | predder | I was reading a guide on changing some wine config and it refers to it being in ~/.wine/ which it isnt.. any idea where it's put in a debian install? |
| 00:05.10 | nvz | spundun_: no idea what you are talking about :P |
| 00:05.45 | stoned | predder, use winesetuptk or something |
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| 00:05.58 | stoned | predder, it should be ~/.wine |
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| 00:07.18 | samuel | hello all |
| 00:07.25 | predder | stoned, thanks but all I see are .reg files in that dir? |
| 00:08.10 | shining_ | predder: if it isnt in winecfg |
| 00:08.23 | shining_ | predder: you need to edit the reg |
| 00:08.24 | samuel | what is a good language to learn to do some VERY basic programming? I just want to make something like a program with a bunch of buttons that will each do something (bash script) |
| 00:08.35 | shining_ | predder: #winehq |
| 00:08.43 | spundun_ | nvz: I already have some version of jvm installed through java-gcj-compat which was installed by eclipse as a dependency... this won't conflict with me installing this java will it? I ultimately want to use it with eclipse. |
| 00:08.54 | shining_ | samuel: bash |
| 00:08.58 | waiting | samuel: basic is the best language to learn basic programming : OO) |
| 00:08.58 | stoned | !info xwine |
| 00:09.09 | samuel | shining_, hahaha |
| 00:09.11 | dpkg | xwine: (graphical user interface for the WINE emulator), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1008 kB, Installed size: 1676 kB |
| 00:09.20 | jade | how can i tell what drive model, controller, and bus type from the command line? |
| 00:09.23 | samuel | waiting, :) |
| 00:09.24 | stoned | predder, use xwine to configure wine then |
| 00:09.45 | stoned | predder, if you're on sarge, then i think its winesetuptk |
| 00:09.49 | stoned | don't remember though, sorry |
| 00:09.56 | predder | thanks :) |
| 00:10.00 | stoned | sure |
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| 00:10.39 | stoned | jade, hwinfo, lspci |
| 00:10.40 | stoned | etc. |
| 00:10.56 | jade | stoned, thanks |
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| 00:11.04 | stoned | yup |
| 00:11.35 | SethParker | how do i register a nick |
| 00:11.45 | stoned | SethParker, /msg nickserv help |
| 00:11.50 | SethParker | thanks |
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| 00:23.36 | stoned | !paster me |
| 00:23.36 | dpkg | stoned: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 00:25.38 | stoned | I have just put in a 40gb IDE HDD, mounted it, I can put data on it, etc. it was working before in another pc, and it still works under this pc. The problem is, at boot time, I see all these messages and I can't decipher them, or make sense of them. Apparantly it is failing to read my IDE disk. Could anyone kindly take a peek here http://channels.debian.net/paste/3200 and tell me what the problem might be |
| 00:25.47 | stoned | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3200 <-- url by it self |
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| 00:26.20 | stoned | hda: task_in_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=78230639, sector=78165360 <-- tons of lines like this one |
| 00:26.31 | stoned | yet the drive works fine as far as I can tell |
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| 00:26.54 | stoned | I tried to google it, but no results on any of these keywords I try |
| 00:27.04 | linux2 | hey im installing software but im not getting icons |
| 00:27.10 | linux2 | how can i get kde to find them? |
| 00:27.17 | linux2 | cause im not even sure that the executable is called |
| 00:27.22 | linux2 | and my debian icon is done |
| 00:27.32 | stoned | linux2, umm.. kmenuupdate I guess |
| 00:27.38 | stoned | linux2, or install menu and then update-menus |
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| 00:28.39 | petemc | stoned: if the cable is good and inserted correctly, that drive doesnt have a gereat future |
| 00:28.45 | petemc | great |
| 00:28.56 | stoned | hmm |
| 00:29.00 | stoned | FUCK! |
| 00:29.27 | linux2 | stoned, there is no kmenuupdate |
| 00:29.31 | linux2 | and update-menus |
| 00:29.34 | linux2 | didn't do anything |
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| 00:29.43 | stoned | linux2, apt-get install menu |
| 00:29.55 | stoned | linux2, sorry, kmenuedit |
| 00:30.02 | SubStack | I hate that package |
| 00:30.07 | stoned | linux2, after installing menu, update-menus |
| 00:30.18 | linux2 | stoned, i already have menu |
| 00:30.22 | linux2 | and i ran update-menus |
| 00:30.23 | FliesLikeABrick | is there a debian package for TCL somewhere? |
| 00:30.24 | linux2 | and nothing |
| 00:30.25 | SubStack | the menus become so unusable so quickly |
| 00:30.31 | stoned | !info tcl8.4 |
| 00:30.34 | linux2 | how do i fill the debian menu item |
| 00:30.38 | dpkg | tcl8.4: (Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 8.4.12-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 1117 kB, Installed size: 3156 kB |
| 00:30.41 | linux2 | that always contained everything?? |
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| 00:31.08 | stoned | linux2, update-menus takes care of the 'menu' shown as debian menu |
| 00:31.09 | FliesLikeABrick | thanks stoned |
| 00:31.14 | stoned | sure |
| 00:32.16 | stoned | linux2, about the icons, check with #debian-kde or #kde |
| 00:33.22 | stoned | petemc, the cable is fine, plugged in properly. The drive works fine however. It didn't start giving me these errors until a few days ago, pretty much as far back I as remember |
| 00:33.50 | sng | Home again. Home again. |
| 00:33.59 | stoned | sng, hi |
| 00:34.23 | petemc | stoned: all i can say is, enjoy it while it lasts |
| 00:34.38 | stoned | that fucking blows man |
| 00:34.44 | stoned | Ive got a closet full of these fuckers |
| 00:34.46 | stoned | :( |
| 00:35.00 | petemc | working? |
| 00:35.06 | stoned | just like this one |
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| 00:35.28 | stoned | although on some of them, it hangs when trying to put in data, but it does it eventually, hangs for maybe 10-20 sec |
| 00:35.40 | petemc | they all do the same shit? |
| 00:35.45 | stoned | pretty much |
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| 00:35.52 | stoned | some of them have bad blocks |
| 00:35.57 | stoned | some are fine, some are like this |
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| 00:36.08 | Nexus | Is there a way to see what source a package is coming from when you do an apt-get install or apt-cache search? |
| 00:36.19 | stoned | petemc, I did try two different IDE cables |
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| 00:36.25 | stoned | petemc, same results |
| 00:37.01 | petemc | they'll do for porn n shit |
| 00:37.05 | litage | can the packages in the dotdeb.org apt repository be trusted? |
| 00:37.07 | nvz | prepaid phones ..pfft I hate people who cant take commitment :P |
| 00:37.21 | nvz | why call me if you are worried about minutes |
| 00:37.27 | stoned | Nexus, cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:37.28 | jetscreamer | prepaid is more expensive, but it's for ppl who can't pay their bills |
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| 00:38.18 | nvz | yeah I know its commitment issues.. they cant hang in for the long-term |
| 00:38.18 | litage | jetscreamer: it's also for people who don't use their mobile phones much |
| 00:38.23 | Nexus | stoned, I know how to see the sources, but I'm trying to figure out when I do apt-cache search {package} how to tell what source the files are coming from. |
| 00:38.37 | spatulasnout | hi, anyone know which package programs like 'traceroute' and 'host' are in ? tyvm |
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| 00:38.39 | stoned | Nexus, I don't know what you mean |
| 00:39.00 | jetscreamer | litage: but you wind up paying the same monthly rate, at least with cingual. $1/day |
| 00:39.07 | jetscreamer | cingular |
| 00:39.15 | litage | jetscreamer: not at the rate at which i make calls |
| 00:39.20 | petemc | nvz: you sound lovesick |
| 00:39.31 | nvz | I only know two people who have it, and its annoying.. half the time you cant even get hold of them cause they dont have minutes, and the other half of the time they dont want to talk. Its hard to have a relationship with someone who blows you off :P |
| 00:39.47 | nvz | yeah, I'm all shook up :P |
| 00:39.54 | litage | nvz: people with no credit on their prepaid account can be still be called |
| 00:40.00 | petemc | ive had great relationships with girls who'lll blow me off |
| 00:40.05 | litage | hahah |
| 00:40.08 | stoned | nvz, but not hard with the people who 'blow you' |
| 00:40.09 | stoned | ;) |
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| 00:40.51 | nvz | litage: probably depends on the network.. I am not sure who they are using.. my cousin 'wolfe' I think has boost, and I am not sure what my friend 'ross' has but I think its boost too |
| 00:41.37 | nvz | they usually call me back when I call them, but they dont ever want to talk.. its annoying.. all the rest of my friends and family are "in" and we tall to each other for "free" |
| 00:42.03 | litage | nvz: that's pretty cut-throat if your carrier doesn't route calls to you just because you're out of credit. usually prepaid accounts with no credit are disabled after 15-30 days anyways |
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| 00:42.49 | nvz | ah, now I got people calling and hanging up.. but that wasnt my phone, so I dont really care :P |
| 00:43.41 | lunitik | *cough*petemc*cough* |
| 00:44.01 | stoned | fucking rap |
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| 00:44.11 | nvz | litage: when I call my friend it usually gives me that crap "please wait while the nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is located" a few times then goes to voicemail.. might just be cause he doesnt get signal at work.. but who knows.. he apperently gets the message cause he always calls back |
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| 00:44.29 | lunitik | stoned: Lay Low is actually a good song... heh |
| 00:44.39 | stoned | no rap is good rap, all rap is crap |
| 00:44.45 | nvz | heh |
| 00:44.46 | stoned | hip hop on the other hand |
| 00:44.49 | stoned | I like |
| 00:44.59 | nvz | I like some old rap music.. I just dont like whats comming out these days |
| 00:45.00 | Wyzard | waiting: You still around? |
| 00:45.05 | stoned | ICP being my favorites. I have been a juggalo sincie 1992 |
| 00:45.20 | stoned | got the Great Malinko tattoo |
| 00:45.20 | stoned | :) |
| 00:45.38 | nvz | heh, gawd. only ICP song I recall is 'nutsacks dont belong in buttcracks' :P |
| 00:45.42 | waiting | Wyzard: :P I am |
| 00:45.45 | stoned | hehe |
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| 00:46.09 | stoned | its no a debate, its called the expression of one's opinions |
| 00:46.20 | nvz | I prefer not to hear about it either :P |
| 00:46.20 | lunitik | stoned: please tell me you're not defining ICP as hip hop or rap.... |
| 00:46.21 | stoned | I love death metal, yet I still don't give a fuck when people diss it |
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| 00:46.44 | stoned | lunitik, I am, and it is, and I really don't care what you think of it |
| 00:46.45 | stoned | :) |
| 00:46.54 | Fare | is there a way to reinstall those packages that have been corrupted and those only? |
| 00:47.11 | lunitik | stoned: If thats what you define as hip hop, I understand your distaste for the genre :/ |
| 00:47.24 | stoned | Fare, what happened |
| 00:47.28 | Wyzard | waiting: I got called away by other matters, but to answer your question from earlier, I'm wondering what should be the contents of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts on a machine that will be externally known (in DNS) as "test.example.com" |
| 00:47.31 | lunitik | stoned: at least people like Kottenmouth Kings don't pretend they are rappers |
| 00:47.48 | nvz | I am feeling motivated to pirate some music before I leave now :P |
| 00:47.56 | Paol0 | Tomorrow finish the possibility to buy a sgi, i think to buy it |
| 00:47.57 | stoned | lunitik, looks as if my opinions really got to you |
| 00:48.02 | stoned | lunitik, just chill dawg |
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| 00:48.09 | stoned | aight? |
| 00:48.24 | waiting | I may be not a rapper, but I am the inventor of infamous rap smileys d:-)>o |
| 00:48.25 | Wyzard | waiting: The line "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost test" in /etc/hosts, generated by the sarge installer, means that "localhost.localdomain" is the system's official idea of its own fully-qualified domain name, which just seems stupid to me |
| 00:48.35 | spatulasnout | hi, anyone know which package programs like 'traceroute' and 'host' are in ? tyvm |
| 00:48.42 | nvz | I caught a glimpse of this chic band when I was in pittsburgh last weekend, figure I will see if I can find some of their music on the p2p networks see what they sound like |
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| 00:48.48 | Fare | stoned: hard disk corruption, maybe related to an interaction between cryptoloop and swsusp2 |
| 00:49.02 | lunitik | calling ICP hip hop offends me |
| 00:49.12 | Fare | I just ran reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/loop5 and rebooted |
| 00:49.14 | stoned | lunitik, and I'm sure no one in here gives a flying toss |
| 00:49.15 | waiting | Wyzard: it's not really incorrect I'd say |
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| 00:49.28 | Fare | I don't trust hibernate anymore |
| 00:49.30 | waiting | Wyzard: I mean it saves DNS lookups maybe OSLT |
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| 00:49.35 | nvz | just talking about ICP offends me.. they seem a bit query to me |
| 00:49.51 | tanob | hello, i bought a LCD monitor and now I'm using 1280x1024 instead of 1024x768, but the fonts on X are too big |
| 00:49.54 | nvz | not that there is anything wrong with that.. as long as I dont have to hear about it :P |
| 00:49.57 | lunitik | nvz: I tried to leave the subject alone until he brought them up :( |
| 00:50.13 | stoned | nvz, and I appreciate that. mutual respect of other's opinions is great, |
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| 00:50.35 | tanob | what I must do to fix this big fonts issue? |
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| 00:50.47 | nvz | isnt that in the /topic |
| 00:50.50 | lunitik | tanob: make them smaller? |
| 00:50.54 | cusco | anybody here has a gogear philips mp3 player? |
| 00:51.04 | cusco | anybody here knows about the opengogear ? |
| 00:51.06 | litage | how long has dotdeb.org been providing packages? |
| 00:51.07 | stoned | tanob, what dpi are you running? |
| 00:51.18 | bws42 | spatulasnout traceroute is in traceroute |
| 00:51.19 | RichiH | !anyone |
| 00:51.20 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:51.24 | nvz | I guess not.. I thought there was something about big fonts in the topic |
| 00:51.30 | tanob | lunitik, make them confortable as was on the older resolution |
| 00:51.37 | waiting | Wyzard: I must check my own /etc/hosts to see how I solved this here |
| 00:51.43 | tanob | i guess that change the font size of 11px to 8px isn't the solution |
| 00:51.48 | cusco | ok |
| 00:51.48 | tanob | stoned, I don't know |
| 00:51.57 | waiting | Wyzard: it's not as if I was a network administrator or something |
| 00:52.08 | Paol0 | RIght it is a problem of resolution of your svga, search the correct driver or set it yourself |
| 00:52.11 | bws42 | spatulasnout and my host is from bind9-host |
| 00:52.15 | Wyzard | waiting: Well, the thing that bugs me is that Exims hang ("Starting MTA:") for awhile at boot time, because it's trying to look up the IP for "test.example.com" on the network, but there's no DNS server yet, and it doesn't realize that "test.example.com" is itself |
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| 00:52.27 | waiting | Wyzard: ah ok. |
| 00:52.37 | stoned | tanob, ps auxf|grep bin/X |
| 00:52.41 | waiting | Wyzard: yeah that's one of these "problems that occur in real-life situations" :) |
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| 00:53.00 | waiting | Wyzard: however, SMTP without DNS is always not a good idea :) |
| 00:53.12 | waiting | Wyzard: they are closely related |
| 00:53.17 | stoned | tanob, if you don't see an -dpi switch then tell me what are you using, gnome, kde, something else? |
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| 00:53.27 | nvz | oh well, I cant even find any of their music on p2p :P I didnt really get to hear much of it when I seen them perform last saturday |
| 00:53.28 | Wyzard | waiting: Well, I chose the "not on a network; local delivery only" option when configuring Exim |
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| 00:53.34 | petemc | Wyzard: installing ifplugd makes that problem go away, i believe |
| 00:53.35 | tanob | stoned, no, there isn't any argument telling the dpi |
| 00:53.39 | tanob | stoned, i'm using KDE |
| 00:53.45 | Paol0 | Vorbis, auflac, ..... the only codec that are free not as mp3 not free software |
| 00:53.47 | cusco | I cannot install the opengogear package because of http://rafb.net/paste/results/jBDhXQ37.html |
| 00:54.01 | stoned | tanob, thats probably why, kde uses 100dpi while gnome/else uses other stuff, are you using kdm also? |
| 00:54.03 | nvz | if nobody's stealing it, cant be that good :P |
| 00:54.16 | litage | can the packages in the dotdeb.org apt repository be trusted? |
| 00:54.57 | waiting | litage: do they come with sources? |
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| 00:55.13 | Fare | although I could be wrongly blaming swsusp2 |
| 00:55.17 | stoned | tanob, if you are using kdm, then you need to modify /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, search for string " ServerArgs " and on that line you find edit the arguments for X, specify a -dpi 96 or 72 etc. |
| 00:55.22 | tanob | stoned, yes, KDM |
| 00:55.36 | nvz | and these people on the website dont even look like the band I seen :P there were 4 girls, and on the website its two girls and a guy *shrug* |
| 00:55.38 | tanob | stoned, I'm looking the xdpyinfo |
| 00:55.44 | Dewi | waiting: they are presumably very close to the standard source packages, but compiled against sarge era libs |
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| 00:55.48 | stoned | tanob, i dunno wtf that is |
| 00:55.50 | waiting | nvz: maybe he's their manager :) |
| 00:55.53 | Fare | I noticed the corruption after a apt-get dist-upgrade -- and god knows this stresses the CPU, RAM and disk a lot |
| 00:55.54 | Dewi | litage: I haven't had any problems with them |
| 00:55.58 | tanob | stoned, and there is this output on screen #0: resolution: 95x96 dots per inch |
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| 00:56.15 | chekka | happy to be here, why is the channel #samba that ignorant? don't understand |
| 00:56.27 | Dewi | litage: if you *need* newer stuff on sarge and you don't feel like building your own packages, they are the next best choice |
| 00:56.32 | stoned | tanob, lower your dpi, and if its fine, then go to kcontrol > appearance and themes > fonts > and change the size |
| 00:56.34 | Dewi | litage: along with backports.org of course |
| 00:56.36 | Paol0 | i use ubuntu at home based on debian but i have not problems of resolution possibly that kde has, and gnome not ? |
| 00:56.44 | nvz | waiting: I have no idea, but I didnt see him anywhere and I was standing right in front of the stage |
| 00:56.48 | tanob | stoned, ok, i'll try |
| 00:57.11 | stoned | tanob, do as I suggested with kdmrc and you'll be fine, set a lower dpi or something |
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| 00:57.24 | nvz | waiting: there were two girls playing guitar, one on bass, and one on the drums.. there were no guys on the stage |
| 00:57.39 | chekka | could anyone help me out with openldap? the ldap channel seems to sleep or idle |
| 00:57.40 | stoned | nvz, I cussed out James Taylor when he was feeding me |
| 00:57.47 | nvz | their website only mentions two girls and a guy in the band |
| 00:57.49 | stoned | nvz, of course by accident |
| 00:57.54 | waiting | nvz: gerls who play guitar? sounds intriguing : ) |
| 00:57.58 | stoned | nvz, I also setup tool's dressing room and hung out with t hem |
| 00:58.00 | stoned | :D |
| 00:58.05 | Dewi | nvz: maybe it's a franchise deal |
| 00:58.18 | litage | Dewi: backports.org doesn't seem to have php5-mysqli :S |
| 00:58.25 | stoned | and korn, 3 doors down, slayer, pantera, distrubed, manson |
| 00:58.26 | stoned | etc. |
| 00:58.29 | nvz | yeah I figured I'd at least try steal some of their music off the internet and give it a closer lisyten |
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| 00:58.43 | Dewi | litage: hmm. what's the 'i' in mysqli? |
| 00:58.43 | stoned | I used to be stagemanager for a production comapny called Stageright in LA |
| 00:58.47 | stoned | it was wicked |
| 00:58.49 | litage | Dewi: improved |
| 00:58.58 | Dewi | litage: I do use backports' php5-pgsql |
| 00:59.15 | Dewi | litage: and mysql as well, but not sure which version |
| 00:59.33 | nvz | I never heard of them, I was there to see several other bands, and they were setup on another stage nearby.. I caught the end of their show |
| 00:59.45 | stoned | nvz, http://www.last.fm/user/Nyle |
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| 01:01.59 | zoredache | can someone tell me what to google for, or how to make the text on my console to fill the full screen? I have a dell laptop, and when it boots up everything in the center of the screen with lots of wasted space at the sides... |
| 01:02.32 | dabreegster | zoredache: Try resizing with SVGATextMode |
| 01:02.48 | dabreegster | zoredache: There might be an option somewhere that lists the offset |
| 01:03.18 | r121 | if I have a 1.7GHz P4 Socket 478, can I upgrade to, say, a 2.4GHz if it uses the same socket 478? |
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| 01:03.49 | nvz | oh well I am gonna go visit me cousin then go home, later |
| 01:03.57 | andy | Hi I just put sid on my machine. Now I want to use fdisk on an external hd but there is no /dev/sda* where have all the sda gone? Automount find the hd and mounts fine only then do /dev/sda (e.g., /dev/sda1 on /media/usb-1) show up. What is going on? |
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| 01:05.01 | waiting | andy: are you using udev? |
| 01:05.18 | andy | waiting: yes I assume |
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| 01:05.35 | waiting | andy: it is responsible for setting up /dev/ entries for hot plugged devices |
| 01:05.38 | andy | As before I had to config my fstab to mount |
| 01:05.45 | tanob | stoned, thanks, it's working fine :) |
| 01:06.14 | andy | waiting: is there a way I can do it manually? for using fdisk etc |
| 01:06.30 | waiting | andy: sure you can create device nodes ... |
| 01:06.45 | waiting | andy: I do that, too, but I wonder if it conflicts with what udev tries to do |
| 01:06.53 | waiting | andy: (I do not use udev) |
| 01:07.03 | andy | waiting: sounds good how do I make these device notes? |
| 01:07.19 | zoredache | ah, good, this looks promising thanks dabreegster |
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| 01:07.52 | andy | waiting: I kind like the automount stuff of udev, but feel I have lost control (as in this case) |
| 01:07.55 | dabreegster | zoredache: Be careful. Apparently it can damage your monitor if you tell it the wrong video card and refresh rates and stuff. |
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| 01:08.44 | waiting | andy: apt-get install makedev ; man MAKEDEV |
| 01:08.57 | andy | waiting: thanks! |
| 01:09.03 | waiting | andy: basically cd /dev && MAKEDEV sda |
| 01:09.12 | Paol0 | Sheet samba |
| 01:09.14 | Paol0 | Who want use os unix like have not necessity of samba, it is only necessary invite people to use gnu/linux |
| 01:09.22 | Paol0 | more easy and then offer the possibility to help others and to be part of a community |
| 01:09.26 | Paol0 | all that m$ can not offer |
| 01:09.34 | Paol0 | so samba it is not necessary, if you invite people to use free software all can be free |
| 01:09.40 | Paol0 | and so samba it is not more necessary for any compatibility with os that are not free software |
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| 01:09.54 | Paol0 | please invite all to use free software to left the chains they got and saying if they migrate to gnu/linux they can use free software so that they can create a community and help yourself |
| 01:10.01 | Paol0 | Ah i forgot |
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| 01:10.13 | Paol0 | For violation of gpl if you see in any part of the W3C you can write to license-violation@fsf.org dave turner |
| 01:10.33 | Paol0 | Have a good day |
| 01:10.38 | Ronin | ya whatever |
| 01:10.41 | Paol0 | Bye bye |
| 01:10.41 | waiting | Paol0: :) |
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| 01:12.21 | Paol0 | Paolo del bene id3rfix@gmail.com member associate of fsf.inc. located in Boston usa |
| 01:13.10 | Ronin | so you decide to preach to the converted? |
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| 01:13.44 | Paol0 | Yes |
| 01:13.57 | waiting | Ronin: I think the point is "why should the windows system profit from the stability and security of UNIX fileservices if it offers nothing in return?" |
| 01:14.16 | Ronin | waiting: why would it? it is the competition after all, |
| 01:14.42 | waiting | Ronin: well my guess is that thousands of windows installations all over the world access linux fileservers |
| 01:14.57 | waiting | how many linux installations access windows fileservers? |
| 01:15.10 | Ronin | i know we have several unix and linux servers at work, fact all mission critical "shite" is on nix of some sort |
| 01:15.33 | waiting | I only attempt to follow the reasoning, it doesn't mean that I agree with either side |
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| 01:15.56 | Ronin | waiting: actually im glad you translated it, i had no idea what they were on about |
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| 01:17.56 | waiting | if it was for me, microsoft can rule the world .) that will only lead to its logical consequence. they should not attack me though because I do not want to have anything to do with them :) |
| 01:19.19 | waiting | <- has a beard & codes C |
| 01:19.29 | stoned | probably fat too right |
| 01:19.36 | Ronin | ms means more job security for folks like me :) |
| 01:19.37 | waiting | stoned: no, but pale ^^ |
| 01:19.43 | stoned | wears khakis? |
| 01:19.54 | peterS | and sandals, don't forget the sandals |
| 01:19.59 | waiting | loves to code i his underpants ^^ |
| 01:20.04 | stoned | I know the stereotypical bearded khaki weargin unix nerds |
| 01:20.09 | stoned | :D |
| 01:20.09 | Ronin | ya thats way too much information |
| 01:20.14 | stoned | all in good jest |
| 01:20.15 | stoned | btw |
| 01:20.37 | simonrvn | weargin, heheh |
| 01:20.50 | stoned | oh come on |
| 01:20.53 | stoned | lol |
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| 01:21.47 | waiting | I mean I could become very disgruntled looking at all these students who learn with UNIX and then go into the work world and deliver files to windows boxen for the rest of their career - but on the other hand, wait a minute, none of that is my business |
| 01:22.09 | waiting | maybe they have good reason to do so, and I am just too lame to figure it out :P |
| 01:22.22 | simonrvn | but but, i'm not a weargin, bearded, nor do i wear khakis |
| 01:22.34 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 01:23.03 | Paol0 | You must ask to yourself is windows an os ? |
| 01:23.03 | Paol0 | Plug and play it run |
| 01:23.06 | Paol0 | Sorry plug and pray it run |
| 01:23.14 | Paol0 | Look my nokia it is just with debian |
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| 01:23.18 | Paol0 | Look http://acmesystems.it or .com |
| 01:23.22 | Paol0 | the foxboard with µclinux |
| 01:23.26 | Paol0 | Look linksys.com |
| 01:23.32 | Paol0 | My wrt54g with tnc connectors for wifi with µclinux |
| 01:23.34 | Paol0 | Look gp2x.com |
| 01:23.43 | simonrvn | um, eh? |
| 01:23.44 | Paol0 | M§ is sheet |
| 01:23.48 | Paol0 | And it is not free software |
| 01:23.54 | Paol0 | It not accomunate people or say people to cooperate, to share the software |
| 01:24.42 | simonrvn | oh, ok |
| 01:24.56 | Paol0 | It is dangerous if goverment and public administration use not free software |
| 01:25.14 | simonrvn | no, they're not in it for the betterment of humanity... betterment of their bank account maybe... as if they need it... |
| 01:25.17 | Ronin | no, im govt and we use a mix |
| 01:25.38 | waiting | Paol0: that is very reasonable! but the unfortunate truth is that what people do is not always inspired by ... well, truth |
| 01:25.42 | simonrvn | which gov't? |
| 01:25.45 | waiting | Paol0: .-) |
| 01:25.45 | Paol0 | You can not say really what software really does |
| 01:25.54 | simonrvn | (if you're at liberty to say.. that is) |
| 01:26.13 | Paol0 | It |
| 01:26.20 | waiting | I am unemployed. If I go to the unemployment office and the guy there says I should come next week because "his computer does not work", I laugh |
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| 01:26.27 | waiting | :-D |
| 01:27.16 | Paol0 | In it the minister of job has buy 4.5 milion of euros for not free software |
| 01:27.25 | Paol0 | I too |
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| 01:28.20 | Ronin | *yawn* |
| 01:28.22 | waiting | it was really funny ^^ I was close to strart to support him. he explained that they need stronger computers to run the next software version, but those haven't arrived yet |
| 01:28.37 | waiting | I did _not_ burst in laughing ^^ |
| 01:28.48 | Paol0 | I have the good news that i turn back to work after 1 year and 3 months |
| 01:29.42 | waiting | I'm not unsatisfied with my situation. I prepare completing graduation and learn a lot :) |
| 01:30.14 | Paol0 | The empoly hospital has many pc's not more used and you say why ? |
| 01:31.07 | simonrvn | i enjoy life.. sing, drum, do computers (admin and maintenance mostly lately), and ride around on my bike, and volunteer at the centre |
| 01:33.17 | stoned | I do the same |
| 01:33.23 | stoned | except the volunteer and drum part |
| 01:33.30 | stoned | oh and the bike |
| 01:33.31 | simonrvn | sometimes difficulties arise, but then knowing you can rely on yourself and others to fix common problems you can overcome it... when life presents a challenge, you tackle like a puzzle... sometimes you have to climb over it, or bust through it, but nothing is insurmountable |
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| 01:33.54 | waiting | yeah and no solution is perfect |
| 01:35.00 | simonrvn | of course not, we wouldn't be around to see it if we were... perfection is something we can aim for, but with the knowledge that it's not attainable, otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment |
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| 01:35.34 | simonrvn | and hey, NEVER FORGET TO TELL JOKES AND HAVE FUN :D |
| 01:36.24 | simonrvn | laughter is healing, too |
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| 01:38.11 | stoned | simonrvn, you need peyote |
| 01:38.12 | stoned | :) |
| 01:38.21 | stoned | or a good peace pipe and some tabla |
| 01:38.36 | stoned | if I was an indian |
| 01:38.47 | stoned | i'd work in a indian casino's bathroom as a towel boy |
| 01:38.51 | stoned | and i'd pick a name for myself |
| 01:38.55 | stoned | "Watches You Pee" |
| 01:38.58 | stoned | or something |
| 01:39.08 | stoned | but I'm the other kind of indian, from INDIA |
| 01:39.09 | stoned | :D |
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| 01:40.44 | simonrvn | stoned: a friend of mine participated in a peyote ceremony once (yeh, Native American Church)... he said he had a good experience |
| 01:42.11 | simonrvn | there's a study where they saw if that plant had beneficial effects on natives, and they found invariably that it did, and had good experiences with it. there's a copy of the article on my news site |
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| 01:43.13 | will | Hi, I'm looking to use my laptop as a wireless bridge to connect my ethernet equipped desktop pc to my wireless router |
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| 01:48.38 | Vooloo | can you create a symlink but with directory instead of file? |
| 01:48.59 | bws42 | yes |
| 01:49.00 | nalioth | Vooloo: yup |
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| 01:50.43 | Dwonis | HAWKWINDSGEI: VAX user, are we? |
| 01:50.55 | simonrvn | for sure |
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| 01:53.47 | Luke-Jr | How do I set my hostname? |
| 01:53.55 | Luke-Jr | I edited /etc/hostname, but reboots seem to replace it |
| 01:54.10 | Dwonis | Luke-Jr: Are you really using Debian? |
| 01:54.28 | peterS | Luke-Jr: that's correct, but make sure the hostname also appears in /etc/hosts |
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| 01:54.30 | Luke-Jr | Dwonis: I think so? |
| 01:54.43 | Luke-Jr | peterS: it does... but /etc/hostname is always . after I reboot |
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| 01:55.32 | Dwonis | Luke-Jr: The reason I ask is because *Debian*, as far as I know, doesn't ever replace /etc/hostname on reboot. However, I don't know about Knoppix/Ubuntu/Xandros/MEPIS/etc |
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| 01:56.23 | Dwonis | Luke-Jr, peterS: Also, don't forget about /etc/mailname, and any other programs that might have your hostname in their configuration files. |
| 01:56.56 | Luke-Jr | Dwonis: it's a Debian VPS |
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| 01:57.14 | Dwonis | Luke-Jr: oh. Check with the service provider. They might have some scripts that modify things. |
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| 02:16.43 | docta_v | is there an easy way to log every command that the root user runs? |
| 02:16.47 | docta_v | i'd say the history file would work but that doesn't always work when you sudo to root or login multiple times as root |
| 02:17.28 | docta_v | not sure if that last message got through since i didn't identify |
| 02:17.34 | docta_v | is there an easy way to log every command that the root user runs? |
| 02:17.40 | docta_v | i'd say the history file would work but that doesn't always work when you sudo to root or login multiple times as root |
| 02:17.49 | ggeecko | what is a good way to allow people to upload/download music files besides ftp |
| 02:17.59 | docta_v | webdav |
| 02:18.28 | ggeecko | is that easy to setup |
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| 02:19.22 | docta_v | if you know how to use apache |
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| 02:22.39 | SerajewelKS | docta_v: history is about it |
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| 02:37.14 | sales | ok udmb question |
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| 02:37.25 | sales | could you install debian on a mac? :D |
| 02:37.26 | bulio | whats the command to shutdown my debian system? |
| 02:37.31 | sales | hhahaah |
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| 02:38.05 | Ronin | bulio: seriously? man shutdown |
| 02:38.07 | bulio | poweroff? |
| 02:38.14 | bws42 | init 0 works as well |
| 02:38.20 | sales | LOL |
| 02:38.29 | Ronin | and id bet my next beer your user doesnt have rights to do it either |
| 02:38.29 | sales | shutdown now |
| 02:38.30 | bulio | or halt? |
| 02:38.41 | bulio | I'm root... |
| 02:38.43 | sales | bulio: shutdown now |
| 02:38.54 | Ronin | bulio: man shutdown |
| 02:39.04 | bulio | thanks |
| 02:41.11 | JViz | how come debian stable still has firefox 1.0.4? |
| 02:41.46 | Ronin | cause its stable |
| 02:42.05 | JViz | i haven't had any problems with 1.5 on windows |
| 02:42.17 | JViz | i've had it for a few months now |
| 02:42.32 | Ronin | stable only gets security updates blah blah blah :) |
| 02:42.38 | JViz | je ne comprende pas... |
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| 02:42.39 | JViz | oh |
| 02:42.42 | JViz | so it's version locked? |
| 02:42.44 | Ronin | not new versions :) |
| 02:42.47 | outlawsbba | hi |
| 02:42.52 | JViz | Oh... |
| 02:42.58 | JViz | so what i really want is unstable? |
| 02:43.17 | Ronin | JViz: can you fix it when it gets broke? note the word when |
| 02:43.33 | Ronin | im in 3 debian channels and none support unstable |
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| 02:44.02 | sparr_ | is libm available compiled with soft-float support in a debian package? |
| 02:44.32 | ColdFyre | !op |
| 02:45.06 | outlawsbba | hi can anyone help me ? |
| 02:45.12 | Ronin | ColdFyre: did you really expect that to work? |
| 02:45.17 | Ronin | outlawsbba: not till you tell us the problem |
| 02:45.24 | outlawsbba | ok thanks |
| 02:45.30 | outlawsbba | i am new to linux |
| 02:45.32 | outlawsbba | i use mepis |
| 02:45.37 | outlawsbba | because of Xorg |
| 02:45.42 | outlawsbba | i am gettings this error |
| 02:45.44 | outlawsbba | can i paste it ? |
| 02:45.46 | ColdFyre | shit |
| 02:45.56 | ColdFyre | sorry |
| 02:45.58 | outlawsbba | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. |
| 02:46.04 | Ronin | outlawsbba: no you cant paste it |
| 02:46.09 | outlawsbba | argh |
| 02:46.26 | outlawsbba | wel thats my error |
| 02:46.27 | Ronin | please you something like pastebin |
| 02:46.38 | outlawsbba | mmhh |
| 02:46.40 | outlawsbba | whats that |
| 02:47.00 | lunitik | outlawsbba: what version of Mepis? if Mepis 6 or whatever, try #ubuntu (Mepis 6 is based on Ubuntu) |
| 02:47.07 | outlawsbba | ok |
| 02:47.08 | outlawsbba | thanks |
| 02:47.12 | Ronin | mepis? try the correct channel :) |
| 02:47.21 | outlawsbba | i dont find a meppis channel |
| 02:47.30 | outlawsbba | i saw the ubuntu one |
| 02:47.31 | lunitik | outlawsbba: #ubuntu like I said |
| 02:47.33 | `ns` | mepis is now based on Ubuntu ? |
| 02:47.38 | Ronin | im in it now outlawsbba |
| 02:47.41 | outlawsbba | ok |
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| 02:47.45 | lunitik | `ns`: 6.0 is, yes |
| 02:47.46 | Ronin | outlawsbba: /join #mepis |
| 02:47.57 | `ns` | everything keeps changing around me ... I am growing olde |
| 02:48.08 | Ronin | debian ubuntu, debian mepis i can see how they get them mixed up |
| 02:48.29 | lunitik | Ronin: debian ubuntu, ubuntu mepis* |
| 02:48.43 | Ronin | lunitik: the keys are so close after all |
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| 02:49.26 | lunitik | Ronin: Mepis no longer uses Debian as a base, it uses Ubuntu (as I've said like 5 times now...) |
| 02:49.47 | Ronin | man thats even more funny then that they come here for help :) |
| 02:50.24 | sparr_ | how can i get gcc -msoft-float working in debian? do i have to compile my own libgcc/libm? |
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| 02:59.48 | dmacks | Are there any scripts that act like "dpkg -S" but for a given set of .deb instead of the currently installed packages? |
| 03:00.29 | dmacks | (given my .deb collection, find what package to install to get a given filename) |
| 03:00.56 | dmacks | Or to grep through the contents of files in a given .deb? |
| 03:01.22 | dmacks | (find the one that contains a file that contains a certain string) |
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| 03:07.34 | dondelelcaro | dmacks: you can do that using dpkg-deb -c to output the packages and what contains them into separate files, then grep through the lists |
| 03:08.02 | dondelelcaro | dmacks: something like for a in *.deb; dpkg-deb -c $a > $a.file; done; grep foofile *.file|less |
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| 03:10.22 | dmacks | I guess for the latter I'm stuck doing the same type of thing, 'dpkg -x'ing each then 'grep'ing the extracted contents? |
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| 03:12.08 | dondelelcaro | dmacks: you don't necessarily need to unpack them; if you want to look at the contents, you can do something like dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile foo.deb|tar -zxO|grep foo; but that's probably a bit too manic |
| 03:12.58 | dmacks | Yeah...I'd want to know the name of the file, not just which .deb. |
| 03:13.16 | VolVE | Ok, so after I've removed some packages (apache, php) when I go to reinstall them I get "Not replacing deleted config file" - any way to get around that? |
| 03:13.25 | dondelelcaro | dmacks: well, you can do that using some awk+grep forloop tomfoolery, but it's not as straightforward |
| 03:13.25 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: ahh, while you're around... what is wrong with: "apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-depends" install foo"... it still decides to try and meet dependencies... |
| 03:13.41 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: uh... you shouldn't ever be using that option. |
| 03:13.54 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: the --reinstall option is needed? |
| 03:13.56 | dmacks | Yeah. I'm "dan", not in the mood for tom's foolery too:) |
| 03:13.58 | dmacks | Thanks |
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| 03:14.23 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: no, you just shouldn't ever need that option. What are you trying to do? |
| 03:14.28 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: meh... I know what it does, just saw a factoid from you and wondered what I'm doing wrong to save a step... |
| 03:14.55 | dondelelcaro | the factoid from me is about --force-confmiss and/or about a global reinstall |
| 03:15.10 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: nothing at the moment... I just want to know whats wrong with my syntax... |
| 03:15.31 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: yes, but I was wondering how you'd use the option in general... apparently I used it wrong... |
| 03:15.47 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: that's the proper syntax, but you're forgetting that those options are passed to dpkg. Apt is what is actually resolving the dependencies there. |
| 03:15.53 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: can you at least direct me at some documentation about DPkg::Options:: ? |
| 03:16.25 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: DPkg::Options:: is just a set of options which are passed to dpkg on the command line. man dpkg; to learn about them. |
| 03:16.28 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: ahh... so is impossible to do that via apt-get? |
| 03:16.52 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: there's no point in doing it. apt-get's job is to resolve dependencies. If you don't want that, use dpkg. |
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| 03:18.00 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: just trying to make, for instance "apt-get -d install foo ; dpkg --force-depends -i foo" into one apt-get command... is not possible? |
| 03:18.23 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: no, because it's not something you should ever be doing. |
| 03:18.34 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: if foo has the wrong dependencies, you should fix them. |
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| 03:18.45 | dondelelcaro | if you don't have the dependencies installed, you should install them. |
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| 03:19.16 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: whenever I try to change deps of a package, it never rebuilds... heh, I guess I should just look into that more... |
| 03:20.11 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: thanks anyways though, makes more sense why it wouldn't work I suppose... |
| 03:22.12 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: well, that generally means that you've got the deps wrong, or something else is screwy. What exactly are you trying to do in this case, though? |
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| 03:23.24 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: I can't think of an example really... I've tried changing deps for meta-packages mainly... |
| 03:23.36 | outlawsbba | hey can anyone help me when i try to acces my Hard Disc i get this message it is mounted btw "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: |
| 03:23.36 | outlawsbba | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. |
| 03:23.36 | outlawsbba | ." |
| 03:23.49 | outlawsbba | #flood |
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| 03:24.08 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: ah; well, meta packages are wierd... if you don't like the way they are currently, you may have better luck with an equivs package that provides the metapackage and depends on the packages you actually want. |
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| 03:25.39 | linux2 | how can i turn of the auto disply shut off |
| 03:25.41 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: I'll look into equivs more... would be nice though to set up a .deb that depends everything I use on my system though... would make reinstalls far faster :) |
| 03:25.47 | linux2 | is there like no friggen way to do this |
| 03:25.51 | linux2 | cause apparently no one know |
| 03:26.03 | linux2 | but every comp i install debian on the screen auto turns off |
| 03:26.03 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: you can do that rather easily, actually... |
| 03:26.07 | linux2 | after around 10 minutes |
| 03:26.07 | dondelelcaro | !reinstall |
| 03:26.08 | dpkg | [reinstall] COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 03:26.15 | linux2 | and its bugging the crap out of me |
| 03:26.20 | linux2 | i never want my screen to turn off |
| 03:26.28 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 03:26.28 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 03:26.39 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: if you use aptitude, the last factoid will do exactly what you want. |
| 03:27.27 | Guerin | linux2: man xset |
| 03:27.43 | Guerin | linux2: also see if your bios has any powersaving stuff set up |
| 03:28.05 | linux2 | Guerin, nope. none. all done through acpi |
| 03:28.08 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: you just output that to a file, then when you want to reinstall, xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < foofile; aptitude install; |
| 03:28.11 | linux2 | which only kinda works at the moment |
| 03:28.21 | linux2 | acpi messed up the touchpad and other mice connected |
| 03:28.31 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: ahh... thank you :) |
| 03:28.35 | linux2 | and the mousepad scroll bar is off |
| 03:28.46 | linux2 | off-center for some random reason |
| 03:28.55 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: this has the advantage of even enabling you to clone machines across architectures with only the removal of a few packages |
| 03:30.31 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: made note of those commands... will upload somewhere for later use :) |
| 03:32.08 | linux2 | Guerin, is this permenent |
| 03:32.18 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: I see libs listed though... remove those to ensure I have no orphans lying around in the future? (else aptitude will think I want them to stay...) |
| 03:32.27 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: aptitude clone is <reply> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favorite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude upgrade; on the other machine. |
| 03:32.27 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 03:32.56 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: just run aptitude markauto list-o-libs; [you can also use the aptitude curses interface to mark all libraries as automatically installed. |
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| 03:35.24 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: ok... thanks again :) |
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| 03:40.03 | unix_infidel | anyone with some insight, qtparted or gparted? |
| 03:40.06 | unix_infidel | which is the better front end. |
| 03:42.22 | jhan100 | qtparted .. :D |
| 03:42.29 | jhan100 | is the much better . . |
| 03:42.31 | jhan100 | :D |
| 03:42.52 | jhan100 | unix_infidel, |
| 03:44.59 | dansushi1 | i want to install windows without overiding my already set-up grub bootloader, but i can't, so how can i just put back the bootloader that i set up with debian without going through the entire install again? is there any was to just install grub? |
| 03:45.01 | unix_infidel | resons? |
| 03:45.14 | unix_infidel | erm, reasons for why qtparted is better |
| 03:45.23 | unix_infidel | dansushi1: chroot into the install and reinstall grub. |
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| 03:45.50 | dansushi1 | i'm sorta new, what is chroot? |
| 03:45.56 | unix_infidel | !chroot |
| 03:45.56 | dpkg | from memory, chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 03:46.11 | dansushi1 | thanks |
| 03:46.32 | unix_infidel | anyone? recommendations for or against qtparted or gparted, respectively. |
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| 03:48.35 | jhan100 | QTPARTED is the wonn . .:D |
| 03:48.49 | jhan100 | the more easy partition`s manager . . :D |
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| 03:52.17 | falkon | Is anyone familiar with the i8kmon utility for dell laptops? I have written the configuration files, but the system will not automatically change the fan speeds with the temp |
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| 04:05.11 | pourriture | I just downloaded a debian cd image and I double click on it and nothing is happening ... I am using winxp home |
| 04:05.16 | pourriture | just kidding |
| 04:05.35 | pourriture | I thought that the chan might liven up with that |
| 04:05.50 | centrx | I was going to smack you |
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| 04:06.39 | pourriture | centrx, I prolly need to be smacked anyway |
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| 04:07.27 | pourriture | centrx, I have been drinking and grilling for the past 10 hours |
| 04:07.49 | centrx | sounds rigorous |
| 04:08.25 | pourriture | centrx, good ribs and good beer ... but it makes me into a flame-baiting asshole on irc |
| 04:08.52 | Pons | is there anyway to run a program on a partition with noexec flag? |
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| 04:17.47 | waiting | Pons: sure. copy it to somewhere else and run it from there |
| 04:18.02 | Pons | if that is not possible? |
| 04:18.10 | waiting | Pons: ^^ dunno |
| 04:18.20 | waiting | Pons: maybe its possible to write a loader for it |
| 04:18.37 | waiting | Pons: I accept research projects ATM :) |
| 04:19.42 | pourriture | btw ... does the hard drive in the freezer thing still work ... /dev/hdh/ died last night ... it had all my music on it ... I have it rsynced somewhere else ... but still trying the freezer thing to see if it works |
| 04:20.13 | waiting | pourriture: it died? it doesnt turn anymore? :| |
| 04:20.35 | deadcat_ | does wget handles ftp username/passwd ? |
| 04:20.55 | waiting | deadcat_: yeh, ftp://user:pass@host/path |
| 04:20.57 | pourriture | waiting, it sounds like there are ping-pong balls in it |
| 04:21.02 | deadcat_ | waiting: thanks |
| 04:21.26 | pourriture | lftp is the r0x0r |
| 04:21.30 | deadcat_ | waiting: rocking (= |
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| 04:21.47 | pourriture | but wget is nice too |
| 04:21.47 | Marshman | hey does anyone have a java jdk1.5 with netbeans installation guide? |
| 04:21.49 | waiting | pourriture: yeh, like it, too |
| 04:22.08 | Marshman | i keep getting The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: Invalid command line option: console is not supported (1001) (403 |
| 04:22.22 | Marshman | when i execute ./jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin -console |
| 04:22.28 | pourriture | so .... frozen hard drive? |
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| 04:32.03 | TomasOsmena | anyone experience using STICKY BIT on NFS |
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| 04:36.04 | roler | how can I setup postfix to allow the sending of email from an ip address outside of mynetworks, using an authentication ? |
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| 04:36.39 | waiting | roler: see postfix.org for postfix HOWTOs |
| 04:36.40 | dylan_ | Which is better: ALSA or OSS? I remember ALSA giving me choppy sound whenever I was crunching numbers. Any way to resolve this? |
| 04:37.07 | sales | roler: #postfix |
| 04:38.17 | roler | thanks |
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| 04:39.59 | dylan_ | I guess noone has any ideas? |
| 04:40.10 | celenk | Is eterm not available in a debian package.. or in aptitude? |
| 04:40.57 | roler | or is it dovecot that would handle the sending of email securely? |
| 04:41.13 | TomasOsmena | anyone experience using STICKY BIT on NFS |
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| 04:45.26 | litage | if someone's ssh'd into your box and you have root privileges and they don't, other than ~/.bash_history, are there ways of watching/determining what they're doing? |
| 04:46.13 | rue_house | ps -uax |
| 04:46.34 | k-google | litage: asking them ;-) |
| 04:46.48 | k-google | litage: You can also implement process accounting. |
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| 04:47.06 | litage | thanks k-google |
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| 04:47.20 | sloucher | w username tells some stuff |
| 04:47.43 | karsten | litage: FYI logging in from a different server... (I'm k-google) |
| 04:47.49 | k-google | litage: ... and off... |
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| 04:47.55 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.55 | rue_house | :/ |
| 04:48.08 | rue_house | what I want to know, is the root cuase of why |
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| 04:49.24 | karsten | feh. |
| 04:49.37 | rue_house | how would you go about debugging this? |
| 04:50.03 | rue_house | I canmanually chase dependencies for a while, but I really shouldn't have to do that should I? |
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| 04:50.36 | rue_house | is there a wayof getting a dependency tree out of it? |
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| 04:51.36 | rue_house | I'm gonna have to go to the other network aren't I? |
| 04:51.38 | rue_house | :( |
| 04:51.56 | karsten | rue_house: Running aptitude interactively is a pretty good way of sorting what's going on. |
| 04:52.17 | rue_house | er? |
| 04:52.22 | rue_house | like not apt-get? |
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| 04:52.31 | karsten | !tell rue_house about aptitude |
| 04:52.43 | karsten | rue_house: aptitude >> apt-get, and is mostly command-line equivalent. |
| 04:52.59 | rue_house | hmmm |
| 04:53.06 | karsten | rue_house: Difference being that when run interactively you get some detailed information about conflicts and options to manually correct things. |
| 04:53.31 | rue_house | ok |
| 04:53.34 | rue_house | umm |
| 04:53.38 | rue_house | I'm in there |
| 04:53.43 | rue_house | now what |
| 04:54.04 | karsten | rue_house: OK. Try installing your package again. Sorry I quit and rejoined, don't have history here. |
| 04:54.33 | rue_house | kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4) but it is not going to be installed |
| 04:54.42 | rue_house | I just dont want to have to manually chase this down |
| 04:54.47 | karsten | If you've used mutt, search/nav keys are similar. If not, '?' gives you help. '/' is search. Find your package. Mark '+' to install, 'g' to commit. |
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| 04:54.52 | tenzing_ | what command can open a rar archive |
| 04:54.53 | karsten | One sec. |
| 04:54.58 | karsten | tenzing_: unrar |
| 04:55.17 | karsten | rue_house: What package again? |
| 04:55.23 | karsten | Doh. |
| 04:55.34 | rue_house | kdelibs-bin |
| 04:55.40 | tenzing_ | karsten, whats the package name to install unrar |
| 04:55.41 | stoned | tenzing_, add non-free and contrib to sources.list and install unrar |
| 04:55.45 | stoned | !contrib |
| 04:55.46 | dpkg | hmm... contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
| 04:55.56 | karsten | !tell tenzing_ about search |
| 04:55.57 | stoned | apt-get install rar unrar zip unzip arj |
| 04:55.58 | stoned | etc. |
| 04:56.11 | karsten | tenzing_: Right, it's in non-free / contrib. |
| 04:56.31 | rue_house | ok I see |
| 04:56.44 | rue_house | so I have 3 packages that aren't available of soemthing |
| 04:56.56 | waiting | karsten: heh |
| 04:57.01 | karsten | rue_house: OK, if you hit enter while on that package, there's detailed info, including dependencies. You should see kdelibs4 highlighted in red. |
| 04:57.10 | karsten | waiting: ? |
| 04:57.11 | waiting | karsten: do you know how to exapnd all in aptitude package browser? |
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| 04:57.17 | waiting | karsten: : ) |
| 04:57.54 | karsten | waiting: No, just the ][ expand/collapse group commands. |
| 04:58.05 | rue_house | I cant select from this window... |
| 04:58.28 | waiting | karsten: fair, thyvm |
| 04:58.35 | karsten | waiting: NP. |
| 04:58.50 | karsten | rue_house: Try 'q' to back up a level then. But not exiting aptitude. |
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| 05:00.54 | rue_house | unsatisfied is kdelibs4 libcupsys2-gnutls10 libqt3c102-mt |
| 05:01.16 | rue_house | I'm not sure exactly what unsatisfied means |
| 05:01.22 | rue_house | cant get or dosn't want to |
| 05:02.18 | karsten | rue_house: OK. Go back to the package-listing window. Find kdelibs-bin. Hit enter. |
| 05:02.30 | karsten | rue_house: You're on the package detail listing. Scroll down (pageup/down) |
| 05:03.01 | karsten | rue_house: Should be a line starting "--\ Depends". Hit enter if it's not expanded. |
| 05:03.02 | rue_house | yup, ok |
| 05:03.12 | rue_house | and it shows me 2 (now) reds in the depends |
| 05:03.23 | rue_house | I installed the cups stuff it wanted |
| 05:03.28 | karsten | rue_house: Right. Navigate down to those. |
| 05:03.47 | rue_house | ok, each has 1 item |
| 05:03.48 | karsten | rue_house: and hit enter. You're now on the detail listing for _those_ packages. There's probably a conflicts. |
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| 05:03.54 | rue_house | p ---- version |
| 05:04.15 | karsten | rue_house: Hrm. Actually, back out ('q') and try just hitting '+' on each of those. |
| 05:04.57 | rue_house | hold up, I think I see things I can fix |
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| 05:05.03 | karsten | rue_house: Good. |
| 05:05.09 | waiting | :)) |
| 05:05.12 | karsten | rue_house: You're starting to fall under aptitude's spell. |
| 05:05.17 | rue_house | heh |
| 05:05.32 | karsten | Speaking of which.... |
| 05:05.47 | rue_house | how from here do i make it remove a package |
| 05:05.53 | karsten | Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: |
| 05:06.04 | karsten | Feh. |
| 05:06.07 | rue_house | ooo - deselects a package... |
| 05:06.08 | rue_house | k |
| 05:06.39 | Vasistha | is there a GTK+ control panel (for setting fonts, colors, etc) that I can run from kde? |
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| 05:08.05 | jetscreamer | karsten |
| 05:08.09 | jetscreamer | url changed |
| 05:08.11 | rue_house | SCORE!? its telling me I get a score for my selections? |
| 05:08.12 | jetscreamer | !marillat |
| 05:08.13 | dpkg | i heard marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
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| 05:08.49 | rue_house | I didn't know it was a game |
| 05:09.00 | gokee2 | Whats the best way to fix a broken apt-get? eg, apt-get install -f fails..... |
| 05:09.15 | jetscreamer | !tell gokee2 -about fix-unmet |
| 05:09.54 | gokee2 | jetscreamer, Cool will try that |
| 05:10.58 | rue_house | I wonder what k3d was |
| 05:11.00 | rue_house | oh well |
| 05:11.26 | jetscreamer | burning app |
| 05:11.30 | jetscreamer | oh no |
| 05:11.32 | jetscreamer | modeling |
| 05:11.38 | jetscreamer | k3b is the burner |
| 05:11.46 | rue_house | oh, man I never use that |
| 05:11.54 | rue_house | that was probably for povray stuff |
| 05:12.02 | jetscreamer | similar |
| 05:12.10 | jetscreamer | there is a frontend for that also |
| 05:12.12 | rue_house | its not a povray modler? |
| 05:12.38 | waiting | k3d is the modeller |
| 05:12.44 | jetscreamer | no iirc k3d does max/maya/whatever kinds of models |
| 05:12.47 | waiting | k3b is the burner |
| 05:12.55 | jetscreamer | there is also a kde front end for povray though |
| 05:13.12 | rue_house | heh |
| 05:13.12 | jetscreamer | kpov strangely enough |
| 05:13.58 | rue_house | ok, back to compiling kdenlive |
| 05:14.05 | rue_house | :) thanks |
| 05:14.21 | rue_house | is there a kde modler for povray? |
| 05:14.30 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 05:14.43 | jetscreamer | try kpov i think that's what you might want |
| 05:14.56 | rue_house | cool |
| 05:15.27 | rue_house | kde compete with gnome? |
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| 05:15.51 | jetscreamer | i suppose you could say that if you want, but i don't think that's exactly the thing |
| 05:15.55 | waiting | rue_house: pfft. :-) when it goes down like that I use twm again |
| 05:16.21 | rue_house | :/ this is interesting |
| 05:16.28 | waiting | then I'll have the real UNIX experience ;D |
| 05:16.41 | rue_house | I cant have the combination of software I want ot compile kdenlive |
| 05:16.42 | grendal_prime | !java |
| 05:16.43 | dpkg | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 05:16.44 | jetscreamer | real men use console :o |
| 05:16.56 | jetscreamer | java is in non-free now |
| 05:17.01 | jetscreamer | at least in sid it is |
| 05:17.06 | jetscreamer | sun java |
| 05:17.07 | rue_house | I need ... or maybe |
| 05:17.44 | rue_house | nope , I need kdelibs-bin for kde-config and I need Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) |
| 05:17.57 | rue_house | I dont think debian will let me have that combo |
| 05:18.07 | jetscreamer | there are 3.x and 4.x versions in sid i belive |
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| 05:18.16 | jetscreamer | but i forget |
| 05:18.17 | waiting | rue_house: I have qt3 and qt4 at the same time |
| 05:18.21 | jetscreamer | me too |
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| 05:18.35 | rue_house | waiting, hmm |
| 05:18.44 | rue_house | but you cant have .... |
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| 05:19.03 | rue_house | ahh |
| 05:19.05 | jetscreamer | but you can have... |
| 05:19.08 | rue_house | if its not -dev... |
| 05:19.09 | jetscreamer | !alternatives |
| 05:19.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. |
| 05:19.44 | rue_house | damnit, it removeed kdelibs-bin |
| 05:20.18 | jetscreamer | it will replace the equiv i believe |
| 05:20.18 | jetscreamer | sounds like etch |
| 05:20.22 | rue_house | apt-get install kdelibs-bin The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 05:20.22 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.25 | jetscreamer | iirc i had that about a month ago or so |
| 05:20.28 | rue_house | I nee them both |
| 05:20.34 | rue_house | arg |
| 05:20.51 | jetscreamer | arg v |
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| 05:29.21 | jetscreamer | !tell karsten -about marillat |
| 05:29.23 | jetscreamer | it changed |
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| 05:39.13 | sid | Is there an fdisk command...for me to make a partition; and write it to the partition table. |
| 05:39.17 | sid | I want to put this in a script. |
| 05:39.39 | sid | So fdisk automatically takes as much free space as it has(default values) and creates a primary #4 partition. |
| 05:39.44 | sid | How can I do that? |
| 05:40.23 | deadcat_ | is there a way to get the dpkg --get-selections list without running dpkg? |
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| 05:45.40 | DimmuR | deadcat_: in /var/lib/dpkg you have files like status etc - you can use them to get this information |
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| 05:46.06 | GeniXPro | What would be the easiest way to make a script executed before any other shutdown sequence, after I click shutdown in KDE? |
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| 05:47.11 | tnks | Hi. I've completely confused myself. I could have sworn that `eject -X` told me different speeds than it appears to be telling me now. |
| 05:47.23 | tnks | Now, on my laptop, I'm just seeing "4". |
| 05:47.44 | DimmuR | GeniXPro: if kde shutdown is script you can modify it (after you find it) |
| 05:47.46 | tnks | but I thought I was originally seeing a range of values. |
| 05:48.31 | tnks | or rather a list |
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| 05:50.20 | DimmuR | tnks: eject -X is setting cdrom speed to value you choose (if it's supported and if it's possible to change). After remove media from cdrom information about speed is reseted |
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| 05:51.04 | tnks | DimmuR: I think you mean the lower-case -x. -X is supposed to tell me what my drive supports, right? |
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| 05:51.25 | tnks | I just seem to clearly remember seeing my driver support up to 24. |
| 05:51.28 | tnks | now it seems less. |
| 05:52.30 | DimmuR | yep my fault |
| 05:53.34 | DimmuR | tnks: you have tried with the same media? |
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| 05:54.15 | tnks | DimmuR: I don't have the same media as before, but I did try it with a number of CD's and DVD's I do have around. |
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| 05:56.47 | Bitz | hi, i tried mount initrd image via loop, but it doesn't seem to work. any ideas? |
| 05:57.57 | deadcat_ | DimmuR: ya.. but i figure i dont have to parse it myself |
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| 06:00.48 | sid | If I have a user /home/bob; what chmod command do I type.. so ONLY bob can see /home/bob (and root); I don't want /home/sarah to ls /home/bob; and be able to see what bob has. What is the chmod command to fix this? |
| 06:02.37 | Bitz | oops, i need to specify fstype iso9660 |
| 06:02.38 | DimmuR | deadcat_: that's what dpkg --get-selections does |
| 06:03.01 | DimmuR | sid: change permissions to /home/bob that noone else can read/execute |
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| 06:03.38 | sid | DimmuR: What would the chmod command be? |
| 06:03.48 | deadcat_ | DimmuR: ya. but i cant run dpkg --get-selections |
| 06:04.15 | DimmuR | sid: man chmod |
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| 06:07.44 | Marshman | The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: Invalid command line option: console is not supported (1001) (403) |
| 06:07.54 | Marshman | anybody know what's wrong there? im trying to install java 1.5 with netbeans |
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| 06:19.22 | rkrush | Hello! |
| 06:19.26 | jk- | heya |
| 06:19.47 | rkrush | Is my terminal messed up or is it impossible to scroll back when viewing a manpage? |
| 06:20.00 | rkrush | Even b or ^B stated in 'man more' don't work. |
| 06:20.04 | jk- | export PAGER=less |
| 06:20.14 | jk- | :) |
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| 06:20.59 | jk- | 'more' can only go up if the input is a file, according to the man page |
| 06:22.03 | rkrush | There we go! That worked, though it's rather odd to have to install less in order to get backscrolling functionality :P |
| 06:22.30 | jk- | yeah, more is 1800s technology :D |
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| 06:26.51 | rkrush | Thanks for the help :) |
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| 06:30.21 | JViz | is it possible to get the java sdk without using java-package/fakeroot? |
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| 06:36.59 | Luke-Jr | Anyone know the program that monitors bandwidth and generates graphs and such? |
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| 06:37.52 | karsten | Luke-Jr: mtrg |
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| 06:38.09 | Agrajag- | Luke-Jr: ipac-ng, pmacct |
| 06:38.15 | karsten | Luke-Jr: erm. mrtg. |
| 06:38.17 | Luke-Jr | karsten: not in apt-get? |
| 06:38.18 | Luke-Jr | ah |
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| 06:38.42 | karsten | Luke-Jr: it's "multi router traffig grapher". I always get the t & r swapped. |
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| 06:41.59 | Luke-Jr | karsten: can it monitor the local system insted? |
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| 06:43.58 | Agrajag- | Luke-Jr: what do you want exactly? mrtg doesn't do ip accounting, as in keep track of downloads over time and accumulate other info - if you want to do that, check out pmacct or ipac-ng |
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| 06:45.06 | karsten | Luke-Jr: Yeah, it can pretty much monitor anything that can generate data. |
| 06:45.26 | karsten | Luke-Jr: Might possibly want to use it in conjunction with the other tools mentioned if they don't do graphs. |
| 06:45.40 | Luke-Jr | Agrajag-: just a simple website graph for local server bandwidth usage |
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| 06:48.50 | streuner | hm |
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| 06:51.19 | sales | Luke-Jr: look at ntop |
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| 06:51.52 | sales | Luke-Jr: ntop will do what you want, |
| 06:52.14 | streuner | !info ntop |
| 06:52.22 | dpkg | ntop: (display network usage in top-like format), section net, is optional. Version: 3:3.2-3 (sid), Packaged size: 2661 kB, Installed size: 10792 kB |
| 06:52.51 | sales | and its all www based graphs |
| 06:52.57 | sales | lots of inof n shit - rather goof |
| 06:52.59 | sales | good* |
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| 06:53.25 | Marshman | hmm |
| 06:53.29 | Marshman | i got netbeans to extract with -silent |
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| 07:09.01 | roxy_ | I would like to compile my own kernel. Is it still possible to have it patched by aptitude after ? |
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| 07:13.29 | roxy_ | I can find kernel-source package but only up to 2.4 |
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| 07:20.43 | karsten | roxy_: I think it's "linux-source" now. |
| 07:21.35 | karsten | roxy_: Yeah, it is. |
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| 07:22.58 | roxy_ | karsten: found it, thanks. I forgot they change name since freebsd inclusion. |
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| 07:24.14 | loopdee | with kernel 2.6.17, the sound alsa and oss are in the kernel, but in debian sarge what sound system does gnome use when Enable sound server startup ? |
| 07:25.18 | nile | loopdee, that's the esound daemon. I don't believe it's related to the underlying kernel sound system. that is, it can work on either |
| 07:26.22 | loopdee | okay, when it is enabled i get no sound except with gnome apps, when not enabled i get sound in everything but i cannot control the volume |
| 07:26.25 | loopdee | haha |
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| 07:27.44 | nile | loopdee, it takes control of the sound output. only gnome programs are aware of it by default. you can configure almost all other programs to use it. what other programs do you use? |
| 07:27.44 | loopdee | hmmm, is that /dev/mixer for volume control ? |
| 07:28.22 | loopdee | cedega, uses either alsa or oss, mplayer .. not much yet .. |
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| 07:29.17 | imMute | can someone help me install sshd? i come from fedora where we had yum and gnome-yum, and i am clueless as to how to use apt-get |
| 07:29.29 | nile | loopdee, for mplayer, you can use the -ao option. "mplayer -ao esd music.ogg" should work. you can also add "ao=esd" to ~/.mplayer/config so you don't have to type that all the time |
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| 07:29.51 | nile | imMute, apt-get install ssh |
| 07:30.03 | nile | imMute, that will install both the ssh client and server |
| 07:30.32 | loopdee | okay thanks nile, ill play around a bit |
| 07:30.38 | imMute | nile, thanks ( i tried sshd ) |
| 07:31.03 | row | Does anyone do shared hosting here and how do they secure php on it, anyone use suPHP or is that over kill and effect scripts? |
| 07:31.17 | nile | loopdee, good luck |
| 07:31.51 | nile | imMute, the name of the actual ssh server package is "openssh-server". installing "ssh" will install that as well as "openssh-client" |
| 07:32.07 | roxy_ | Is there some experienced sys ad around ? I always learn new stuff, like the set of commands to build a new kernel, get alsa working ... How professional sys ad takes track of it. Do you have a directory where you write "memory files", do you use special tools, a wiki maybe |
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| 07:34.54 | dondelelcaro | roxy_: sometimes I have notes, but most of it I've done by learning where everything is documented and how to find it fast. |
| 07:34.54 | roxy_ | row: don't know but /. was rewieving a book on php security yesterday. |
| 07:34.57 | nile | roxy_, I'm not an experienced sys admin, but it's helpful to keep a "linux-tips" text file or a paper notebook to record thnigs |
| 07:35.25 | dondelelcaro | roxy_: that, and the fact that almost all of my configuration files are versioned in SVN, and I have no qualms with moving them between systems |
| 07:35.27 | row | roxy_: I will check that out ta |
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| 07:36.42 | roxy_ | dondelelcaro: says you learned something from: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html . Would you just bookmark it under debiankernel ? |
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| 07:37.50 | blinx | hi |
| 07:38.06 | dondelelcaro | roxy_: no, I'd go right back and figure out where it was docuented in man make-kpkg; in the case where it wasn't obvious, I keep files for each project which have the exact sequences of commands used and why they're used. |
| 07:38.13 | roxy_ | row: but I always think /. rating for book is _very_ strange sometimes |
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| 07:39.15 | blinx | the sound server esd starts at every boot, but if i want to start a audio player, i will have to kill the process esd. |
| 07:39.15 | blinx | is there any possibility that esd doesn't start at every boot? |
| 07:39.18 | dondelelcaro | row: most recently I've set up machines using fastcgi with suexec php cgi... |
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| 07:40.54 | roxy_ | dondelelcaro: what do you mean project ? if you had to read make-kpkg 5 times to understand the set of command you had to do so you write those command to a file. Where would you keep that file ? |
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| 07:41.38 | dondelelcaro | roxy_: in the make-kpkg case, I actually have scripts that take care of calling make-kpkg for me; as far as projects go, each set of servers that I admin is a separate project. |
| 07:43.26 | row | dondelelcaro: I see. |
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| 07:47.43 | roxy_ | dondelelcaro: thanks for the tips |
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| 07:48.17 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 07:48.17 | dpkg | Since Fri Jul 14 03:00:02 2006, there have been 40 modifications, 1421 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 402 commands. I have been awake for 7d 4h 48m 15s this session, and currently reference 36813 factoids. I'm using about 15344 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 766.27/48.31 child 0/0.01 |
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| 07:49.10 | celenk | could anyone link me to a default etch sources.list file? |
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| 07:50.18 | blinx | x86? |
| 07:50.23 | celenk | yes |
| 07:50.26 | blinx | hm |
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| 07:50.33 | blinx | i only have amd64 |
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| 07:50.45 | blinx | but it is easy |
| 07:50.46 | blinx | mom |
| 07:51.30 | blinx | http://paste.debian.net/9423 |
| 07:51.50 | blinx | i think you can edit this... |
| 07:51.52 | cydork | dondelelcaro: 0 morons?? i dont agree |
| 07:51.56 | cydork | :) |
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| 07:52.13 | celenk | thank you blinx |
| 07:52.20 | dondelelcaro | !moron cydork |
| 07:52.20 | dpkg | cydork: You are moron #10 |
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| 07:52.50 | streuner_ | haha |
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| 07:53.40 | streuner_ | celenk: comment 4,5 and 7 out |
| 07:53.52 | ns_ | running testing with kernel 2.6.8-2-3862.6.8-2-386. just apt-get installed azureus. it won't run. pushes my cpu to 99% . looking at top, it only gets as far as running kaffe-bin . solutions ? |
| 07:53.54 | streuner_ | celenk: s/out/ / |
| 07:54.55 | streuner_ | celenk: use "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib" instead |
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| 07:55.39 | streuner_ | celenk: for line 12 use s/testing/etch/ |
| 07:55.53 | gokee2 | Hello all, my apt-get is really messed up. apt-get -f will not even work. It got stopped in the middle of installing xorg. Any idea how to fix it? Someone told dpkg to tell me to use dselect to do a update but the pkg lists are already up to date? I did that anyway and it did not help. This computer is overheating and freezing as well. It also has disappearing text.... Anyway how should I fix apt-get?.... |
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| 07:56.10 | dondelelcaro | !tell gokee2 -about bat |
| 07:56.21 | dondelelcaro | gokee2: give us the requested output using a paster bot or similar. |
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| 07:56.55 | gokee2 | ok... how do I log the output? |
| 07:57.04 | dondelelcaro | gokee2: apt-get ... > foofile; |
| 07:57.04 | gokee2 | or I could do it though ssh |
| 07:57.11 | gokee2 | ok |
| 07:57.16 | gokee2 | I will use ssh I think |
| 07:57.29 | gokee2 | one se |
| 07:57.31 | gokee2 | sec* |
| 07:58.54 | row | dondelelcaro: do you use both php4 and php5 cgis btw? |
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| 08:01.23 | gokee2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3201 <-- output from apt-get |
| 08:02.17 | gokee2 | Do I need to to apt-cache policy for every pkg as well or is that enough |
| 08:02.20 | gokee2 | ? |
| 08:03.05 | streuner_ | gokee2: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 08:03.45 | streuner_ | debconf: (Unable to load Qt -- is libqt-perl installed?) <-- you choosed KDE... |
| 08:04.04 | streuner_ | gokee2: paste us your sources.list as well |
| 08:04.07 | gokee2 | ya |
| 08:04.09 | gokee2 | I use kde |
| 08:04.36 | streuner_ | ok, just install the missing package |
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| 08:05.31 | streuner_ | and we need your sources.list too... |
| 08:05.32 | gokee2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3202 <-- sources |
| 08:05.41 | dondelelcaro | row: I could, but no, I don't. |
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| 08:06.04 | gokee2 | you mean install libqt-perl? |
| 08:06.23 | anapivirtua | Hello all. |
| 08:07.44 | gokee2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3203 <-- if I try and install libqt-perl |
| 08:07.55 | streuner_ | gokee2: well, "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.0.22_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package gv" try to remove gv |
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| 08:08.42 | gokee2 | Whats gv? And how do I remove it? |
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| 08:08.53 | streuner_ | !info gv |
| 08:08.55 | gokee2 | apt-get remove gv? |
| 08:08.58 | dpkg | gv: (PostScript and PDF viewer for X), section text, is optional. Version: 1:3.6.1-13 (sid), Packaged size: 165 kB, Installed size: 496 kB |
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| 08:10.01 | streuner_ | Why do you want testing if you don't have even the knowledge to remove a package? |
| 08:10.19 | streuner_ | read man apt-get and man dpkg first |
| 08:11.03 | gokee2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3204 <-- if I do apt-get remove gv |
| 08:11.19 | streuner_ | use dpkg instead then |
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| 08:12.37 | ns_ | !java |
| 08:12.37 | dpkg | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
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| 08:12.58 | ns_ | !install java |
| 08:12.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 08:13.31 | streuner_ | ns_: /msg dpkg (bot) foo (factoid) |
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| 08:13.42 | Gokee2_Laptop | Computer crashed |
| 08:14.08 | streuner_ | in what way? |
| 08:14.13 | streuner_ | *HOW* |
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| 08:14.31 | Gokee2_Laptop | froze |
| 08:14.41 | Gokee2_Laptop | Not the computer we are working on |
| 08:14.47 | Gokee2_Laptop | the one I was working on it from |
| 08:15.00 | Gokee2_Laptop | I think its the heat |
| 08:15.18 | Gokee2_Laptop | although its down to 75F |
| 08:18.08 | Gokee2_Laptop | was the pkg gv? |
| 08:18.11 | roxy_ | what should normally be in: /lib/modules/2.6.17-1-486/build |
| 08:19.57 | streuner_ | that file shouldn't exist if you running an official kernel |
| 08:20.04 | streuner_ | gokee2: yep |
| 08:21.27 | roxy_ | streuner_: well, it doesn't exists, but I am trying to make a kernel module. Make stops with an error because it can't find it |
| 08:22.24 | streuner_ | did you read newbiedoc.sf.net - KERNEL-HOWTO? |
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| 08:23.26 | Gokee2_Laptop | http://channels.debian.net/paste2/3205 <-- dpkg will not remove gv |
| 08:23.27 | streuner_ | What kind of driver is that? third party? |
| 08:24.13 | dondelelcaro | Gokee2_Laptop: yeah, because kdeprint depends upon it. You have to remove kdeprint too. |
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| 08:24.41 | Gokee2_Laptop | And if I do I can fix this and reinstall it? |
| 08:24.51 | roxy_ | streuner_: didn't know it existed. but can't find the kernel how-to: http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Articles#HOWTOs.2C_guides_and_tutorials |
| 08:24.59 | dondelelcaro | Gokee2_Laptop: what is your desired end state? |
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| 08:25.42 | roxy_ | streuner_: for wifi http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:25.50 | Gokee2_Laptop | dondelelcaro, having xorg kde and all my other pkgs, but mainly having apt-get work |
| 08:26.50 | dondelelcaro | Gokee2_Laptop: oh, I see the original error now. |
| 08:26.54 | dondelelcaro | !force overwrite |
| 08:26.55 | dpkg | The reason you have been told to use --force-overwrite is because some packages in unstable are buggy and either have missing Conflicts: or contain files that they shouldn't. Check the BTS and make sure that a bug has been filed about the package in question (ask me about <bts>) then run dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/.deb or apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <foopackagename>; |
| 08:26.59 | dondelelcaro | Gokee2_Laptop: see above. |
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| 08:27.20 | dondelelcaro | <foopackagename> in this case is x11-common |
| 08:27.44 | Gokee2_Laptop | ok thanks I lost the first things I said (everything as gokees) |
| 08:27.47 | Gokee2_Laptop | gokee2* |
| 08:28.10 | streuner_ | roxy_: if in the source script is a bug you have serious problems anyway... |
| 08:28.56 | damn_kernel | hello, i've a great trouble. after a beautiful apt-get upgrade my system don't boot anymore. i have onsy a kernel, i'm chrooted in it with a live cd... how to install a new kernel? |
| 08:29.01 | roxy_ | streuner_: do you mean the make shouldn't be looking there ? |
| 08:29.20 | damn_kernel | *only |
| 08:29.31 | streuner_ | roxy_: maybe you try another version, if possible, and search in groups.google.com about |
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| 08:30.59 | Gokee2_Laptop | dondelelcaro, http://channels.debian.net/paste2/3206 <-- the output from the apt-get command you just gave... should I try it with dpkg? |
| 08:31.40 | azeem | Gokee2_Laptop: no |
| 08:31.58 | Gokee2_Laptop | ok... then what? |
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| 08:32.23 | azeem | Gokee2_Laptop: no idea, your apt sources seems seriously busted |
| 08:32.45 | roxy_ | streuner_: duh. thanks, sourceforge got its own mailing list where my question was answered. |
| 08:32.47 | azeem | but using dpkg without having extensively analyzed the situation will likely make things even worse |
| 08:32.50 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: ok, we try something else, but don't tell somebody ;-) |
| 08:33.11 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: move all x11-common scripts to /tmp |
| 08:33.25 | streuner_ | and run 'apt-get -f install' |
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| 08:33.56 | damn_kernel | hello, i've a great trouble. after a beautiful apt-get upgrade my system don't boot anymore. i have only a kernel, i'm chrooted in it with a live cd... how to install a new kernel? |
| 08:34.18 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common* /tmp |
| 08:34.26 | Gokee2_Laptop | streuner_, ok |
| 08:34.31 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: after that you run 'apt-get -f install' |
| 08:35.01 | Gokee2_Laptop | mv: cannot stat `/var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common*': No such file or directory |
| 08:35.34 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.* /tmp |
| 08:35.47 | Si_tech | can anyone help me with /dev/dsp ? I have tried running "/dev/MAKEDEV" and "mknod /dev/dsp c14 3" and "chmod a+wr /dev/dsp". What I am I doing wrong? Can someone please help |
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| 08:36.16 | Gokee2_Laptop | mv: cannot stat `/var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.*': No such file or directory |
| 08:36.21 | streuner_ | Si_tech: what does 'dpkg -l udev | tail -1' say? |
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| 08:36.34 | RAMATACK | hi everybody |
| 08:36.55 | Gokee2_Laptop | streuner_, there seems to be nothing called x11* in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 08:36.56 | liable | damn_kernel: more info. whar debian version. was the kernel upgraded. do you have grub or lilo. was mkinitrd/yaird/mkinitramfs upgraded, have you checked bts? |
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| 08:37.18 | Gokee2_Laptop | or x1* for that matter |
| 08:37.22 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: what's the output again for 'apt-get -f install' ? |
| 08:37.55 | RAMATACK | when I shutdown my machine or reboot after Sending all proccessess the term signal... |
| 08:38.10 | RAMATACK | it tells |
| 08:38.12 | Si_tech | streuner_, ii udev 0.056-3 /dev/ management daemon |
| 08:38.15 | RAMATACK | umounting local file systems |
| 08:38.21 | RAMATACK | tmpfs too busy remounted read only |
| 08:38.34 | streuner_ | Si_tech: you cannot use MAKEDEV if you have udev installed... |
| 08:38.36 | RAMATACK | I've tried kernel 2.6.17.6 and 2.6.17.5 |
| 08:38.48 | Si_tech | streuner_, what do I use? |
| 08:38.51 | Gokee2_Laptop | http://channels.debian.net/paste2/3207 <-- apt-get install -f |
| 08:39.00 | streuner_ | depends what you want to do |
| 08:39.13 | RAMATACK | with debian installation kernels 2.6.8 tells this too if I make a soft raid over debian installer |
| 08:39.15 | streuner_ | Si_tech: /dev/dsp is OSS |
| 08:39.19 | azeem | Si_tech: you need to load the correct sound driver and OSS emulation, so /dev/dsp appears |
| 08:39.21 | RAMATACK | why I'm getting this message? |
| 08:39.36 | damn_kernel | liable, debian unstable, 2.16.15-k7, grub |
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| 08:39.51 | damn_kernel | * 2.6.15-k7 |
| 08:39.54 | Si_tech | streuner_, I want to have my music player be able to play music and not run alsaconf everytime I log in. How do I do that? |
| 08:40.06 | liable | damn_kernel: and you have no other kernels ro boot into? |
| 08:40.11 | liable | s/ro/to/ |
| 08:40.47 | damn_kernel | liable, only that kernel. it blcks when try to load i2o. |
| 08:40.52 | Si_tech | azeem, how do I load the correct sound driver and OSS emulation? |
| 08:41.25 | liable | damn_kernel: try blacklisting i2o, /msg dpkg blacklist .. also check the bts |
| 08:41.33 | azeem | Si_tech: do alsa applications work? |
| 08:42.09 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common* <--- paste that too |
| 08:42.09 | Si_tech | azeem, which ones are alsa and I will tell you. |
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| 08:43.04 | Gokee2_Laptop | streuner_, ls: /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common*: No such file or directory |
| 08:43.11 | damn_kernel | liable, if i blacklist i2o i can't boot, because my debian is installed on i2o! |
| 08:43.43 | azeem | Si_tech: ogg123 -d alsa09 foo.ogg |
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| 08:43.45 | azeem | for exapmle |
| 08:43.49 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: try to install the qt package for debconf |
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| 08:44.12 | skane | Hi, I am connectiong with winSCP to a Debian 3.1 machine using SCP. SSH on the server is listening on port 22233. So i need nothing more than open port 22233 on the server firewall? |
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| 08:45.04 | skane | What happens is that I can connect and login and winscp shows 2 windows wioth local and remote files visibel but then it freezes with the hourglass forever. |
| 08:45.16 | Gokee2_Laptop | streuner_, libqt-perl? I did that a few min ago and it said missing dependences.... want me to try again? |
| 08:46.07 | liable | damn_kernel: ah, i was thinking i2c.. |
| 08:46.15 | streuner_ | Gokee2_Laptop: well, iam out of ideas then, the scripts for x11-common should be there and i have no idea why |
| 08:46.24 | Si_tech | azeem, No ogg123 does not work "cannot open device alsa09 |
| 08:46.45 | Gokee2_Laptop | streuner_, http://channels.debian.net/paste2/3208 <-- there I tried again |
| 08:47.06 | azeem | Si_tech: so configure alsa first |
| 08:47.11 | azeem | Si_tech: what kernel version do you have? |
| 08:47.12 | liable | damn_kernel: check bts. try another kernel |
| 08:47.34 | damn_kernel | liable, yes, but how to? |
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| 08:48.14 | razva | good morning |
| 08:48.36 | Razva | folks, how can I see what package contains a specific file? in my case libtcl.so |
| 08:48.49 | Si_tech | azeem, kernel 2.6.8-s-686-smp. I tried running alsaconf and that gets sound working but only for that session. I have to run alsa conf everytime I log in. |
| 08:48.57 | liable | damn_kernel: from a chroot. |
| 08:49.01 | vorsprung | Razva, dpkg -S libtcl.so |
| 08:49.17 | Si_tech | azeem, ^^^^^^ kernel 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 08:49.18 | Razva | dpkg: *libtcl.so* not found. |
| 08:49.18 | Gokee2_Laptop | Well I am going to bed... I guess I will have to do a complete reinstall in the morning |
| 08:49.18 | azeem | Si_tech: so fix that |
| 08:49.34 | damn_kernel | liable, i.ve already do them! |
| 08:49.35 | liable | skane: try putty, it looks like a winscp problem, which obviously we cant help with |
| 08:49.38 | Razva | vorsprung and that's impossible because 100% debian has TCL... |
| 08:49.44 | vorsprung | Razva, it's not installed then |
| 08:49.46 | azeem | Si_tech: maybe figure out which kernel module alsaconf loads and add that to /etc/modules |
| 08:49.50 | damn_kernel | liable, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/9Czl1Q69.html |
| 08:50.13 | Si_tech | azeem, ok so how do I fix it? I am stuck here and your help is really appreaciated. |
| 08:50.35 | Razva | vorsprung yes, so I need to find out what package I need to install in order to have that file... |
| 08:50.41 | azeem | Si_tech: I don't know, sorry |
| 08:50.44 | azeem | I gotta go now |
| 08:50.47 | streuner_ | azeem: any idea why the scripts aren't there? |
| 08:50.56 | azeem | no, haven't followed |
| 08:50.57 | skane | liable: ok. Sbut my assumption that only this one port is necessary on bpth firewalls is right? I mean this would apply to any other program. |
| 08:51.01 | azeem | probably x11-common is not installed |
| 08:51.13 | Si_tech | thank you for your help azeem |
| 08:52.05 | Razva | so again, how can I find what package contains a specific file |
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| 08:52.19 | streuner_ | !tell Razva about search |
| 08:52.26 | row | if I want to do apt-get install foo-* but not install foo-bah or whatever, how would I do taht? |
| 08:52.49 | wolaoba | anyone here using google-earth? |
| 08:53.05 | streuner_ | there is a version for linux |
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| 08:53.26 | streuner_ | doesn't work for me, because i don't have GLX |
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| 08:53.45 | wolaoba | streuner_: i know, i have installed. menu fontsize too small. can't set them. |
| 08:54.00 | liable | skane: it needs whatever port ssh is listening on, to be forwarded to that machine |
| 08:54.12 | skane | thank you |
| 08:54.35 | liable | damn_kernel: did you have those kind of errors when the last kernel was installed? |
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| 08:54.51 | damn_kernel | liable, not |
| 08:55.16 | wolaoba | streuner_: GLX can be config in. |
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| 08:55.48 | liable | damn_kernel: nfc then. desperate option is to build a kernel without need for initrd if you cant fix it |
| 08:56.14 | sYsT3m`oN | hi, is there a german channel for debian on Freenode? or QUakenet? |
| 08:56.21 | wolaoba | so, no one knows how to increase the fontsize of google-earth menu? i am leaving. |
| 08:56.22 | liable | damn_kernel: my initrd foo is weak, i dont use debian kernels |
| 08:56.26 | streuner_ | !de |
| 08:56.26 | dpkg | [de] Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 08:56.39 | sYsT3m`oN | thanks |
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| 08:57.05 | damn_kernel | liable, i've not understood at all. |
| 08:57.28 | wolaoba | german eh? i wonder how many nationalities are using debian? any info on that? |
| 08:57.29 | liable | damn_kernel: i cant help you :) thats all you need to understand :) |
| 08:58.02 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, are you german? |
| 08:58.08 | streuner_ | wolaoba: try /msg dpkg worldmap |
| 08:58.27 | wolaoba | good idea. i'll do that now. |
| 08:58.41 | Razva | folks, can you please execute "dpkg -S libtcl.so" and tell me if you get anything? |
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| 08:59.03 | liable | !tell Razva about search |
| 08:59.20 | wolaoba | maybe debian should try to put such info into google-earth. hehe. |
| 08:59.21 | liable | Razva: your friendly #debian bot may be of assistence :) |
| 08:59.22 | maelvino | sup? |
| 08:59.31 | damn_kernel | liable, i've tried also to download a kernel from www.kernel.org and compile them. access denied everywhere :( |
| 08:59.40 | streuner_ | cafuego: http://www.cafuego.net/map/map.jpg.php - got 404... (/msg dpkg worldmap) |
| 08:59.46 | liable | damn_kernel: access denied?? |
| 08:59.51 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, where do you come from? |
| 08:59.57 | maelvino | good |
| 09:00.01 | damn_kernel | liable, yes |
| 09:00.30 | damn_kernel | liable, /dev/null access denied |
| 09:00.31 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: me? i'm from the Orient. |
| 09:00.36 | Razva | liable yes, read, and it doesn't returns anything for me. it's IMPOSSIBLE for debian to not have TCL... |
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| 09:01.17 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: have u been to the Orient? |
| 09:01.23 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, oh, great! i'm from south Europe... |
| 09:01.26 | anapivirtua | Bye. |
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| 09:01.47 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: south Europe...Italy? |
| 09:01.47 | vorsprung | Razva, i don't understand what you are trying to do so I can't comment on how impossible your situation is. |
| 09:01.50 | petemc | Razva: dpkg -S searches installed files, you may not have it installed |
| 09:01.56 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, yes! |
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| 09:02.13 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, and you? |
| 09:02.17 | Razva | petemc so that's the ideea. I want to search what packages I need to INSTLALL in order to have that file. |
| 09:02.36 | petemc | Razva: well, you're doing it wrong - /msg dpkg search |
| 09:02.40 | liable | Razva: hrm, bot didnt find it.. |
| 09:02.52 | vorsprung | Razva, i find the easiest way to do that is to use the website "packages" page |
| 09:02.52 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: send my regards to Metarazzi, or rather, his chest. |
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| 09:03.57 | vorsprung | i suppose apt-file would be even easier |
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| 09:04.26 | liable | only hamlibtcl.so.. |
| 09:04.51 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, Materazzi has been disqualified for 2 matches, it's a great error. it.s possible that hesay something to zidane, but zidane does something of bad. |
| 09:05.42 | Razva | ah, ok, apt-file :) |
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| 09:10.50 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: mama mia! how can they do that to my Met? |
| 09:11.49 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, the guy "zidane" sucks, it has got a piece of **** instead the brain... in the match when i finished his career and wanted to be remebeered like a champion do this... and to assign him "fifa world player" it's an insult to Fair Play. |
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| 09:12.07 | waiting | damn_kernel: he rules ^^ |
| 09:12.14 | waiting | damn_kernel: (in other words) |
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| 09:13.05 | waiting | nah I had a hearty laugh, I had a feeling so I wasnt watching finals anyway |
| 09:13.22 | waiting | I knew I'd be dirty ;) |
| 09:13.25 | koriel | where is the configuration file for the locale settings? |
| 09:13.52 | damn_kernel | wolaoba, materazzi his raw, but correct. |
| 09:14.00 | Fox | damn_kernel: and you don't think Materazzi is an insult to fairplay too ? :) |
| 09:14.02 | waiting | koriel: there are many |
| 09:14.21 | wolaoba | damn_kernel: I notice that Italy is not in the list of country of debian users. You can help to put it there. |
| 09:14.22 | waiting | koriel: every user can have an own |
| 09:14.26 | koriel | well I want to set the LC_LOCAL variable |
| 09:14.42 | koriel | there must be a global one |
| 09:14.44 | waiting | koriel: for yourself, for all user on the system, for a specific process? |
| 09:14.50 | koriel | for all users |
| 09:15.14 | waiting | koriel: ok ... lt's think, it's an environment variable that you want to change, right? |
| 09:15.20 | waiting | LC_LOCAL, never used that |
| 09:15.27 | koriel | yes |
| 09:15.36 | koriel | waiting: why not use that? |
| 09:15.53 | waiting | so hm, it of course depends a little on the shell, but assuming that all your users use bash ... |
| 09:16.06 | waiting | koriel: why not use what? :) |
| 09:16.18 | koriel | waiting: sorry my bad |
| 09:16.29 | damn_kernel | Fox, materazzi doesn't win the Fifa World Player ;) |
| 09:16.32 | waiting | koriel: ah ok, nah it's just ... LC_LOCAL, are you sure it exists? |
| 09:16.47 | waiting | koriel: (side-problem) |
| 09:16.59 | Fox | damn_kernel: maybe he shouldn't have won anything ;) |
| 09:17.06 | koriel | well if your set something like LC_LOCAL=el_GR you can see the difference |
| 09:17.23 | waiting | koriel: ok! well put that in /etc/bashrc or something |
| 09:17.38 | waiting | koriel: the global config for the login shell of those users |
| 09:17.41 | koriel | I'm having problems with messages in my konsole that's why I want to change it |
| 09:18.15 | waiting | koriel: I am never sure because it's rather site-specific, but /etc/profile might do the trick, too. have you looked into the Debian manual? |
| 09:18.44 | koriel | no but I guess I have to |
| 09:19.09 | koriel | anyway my guess was the /etc/profile but it seems there is a LC_ALL somewhere else |
| 09:19.12 | damn_kernel | Fox, i think he will win never anything, but few player in his role are better them him. |
| 09:19.26 | waiting | koriel: yeah, that's totally bogus system ^^ |
| 09:20.15 | koriel | no problem commenting my LC_LOCAL line in /etc/profile fixed the problem for now |
| 09:20.23 | stoned | waiting, you ever sleep? |
| 09:20.41 | waiting | stoned: %) no, you? |
| 09:20.53 | Fox | yeah, after Schwarzenegger in Terminator, materazzi in Agressor ;) |
| 09:20.54 | stoned | hardly |
| 09:20.56 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:21.09 | Fox | anyway, he won the worldcup, cool for him :) |
| 09:21.19 | waiting | I bet if someone comes here who is not Turkish my coffea will kill him :) |
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| 09:23.07 | waiting | Fox: "zidaning" people is the summer trend of 2006 ;D |
| 09:23.37 | Fox | hehe |
| 09:23.52 | liable | freedesktop is shitting me. they let you download from cvs the whole shebang, then when you go to compile, they tell you to get it from git... |
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| 09:28.57 | stoned | waiting, you're turkish? |
| 09:30.30 | waiting | stoned: no |
| 09:30.41 | stoned | darn |
| 09:30.44 | waiting | stoned: have a couple of friends from there |
| 09:30.49 | stoned | don't we all |
| 09:31.04 | waiting | %) why you need turkish honey? |
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| 09:31.09 | stoned | dude |
| 09:31.15 | stoned | unless you're a hot chic, don't call me honey |
| 09:31.16 | stoned | pleae |
| 09:31.19 | stoned | it gives me the creeps |
| 09:31.26 | waiting | argl |
| 09:31.32 | torch | personally I wouldn't want anybody calling me honey |
| 09:31.34 | torch | no matter how hot |
| 09:31.35 | waiting | turkish honey is sweets from turkey ;D |
| 09:31.45 | waiting | a meal |
| 09:31.50 | stoned | I am in love with a man! |
| 09:31.52 | stoned | yes thats right |
| 09:31.54 | stoned | you heard it |
| 09:32.01 | stoned | Muhammad Suicmez |
| 09:32.02 | torch | k that's cool |
| 09:32.25 | stoned | Turkish/German Drummer/Bass/Guitars/Vocalist/writer/composer/recorder/engineer |
| 09:32.30 | stoned | two cds he put out |
| 09:32.34 | stoned | himself |
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| 09:32.42 | stoned | a-z only him and his work |
| 09:32.53 | stoned | the epitome of harmonic neoclassical shred in the death genrea |
| 09:32.58 | stoned | that guy is a GOD |
| 09:33.00 | stoned | I worship him |
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| 09:33.29 | riot | never heard of. |
| 09:33.55 | waiting | cem yilmaz - funniest contemporary turkish actor |
| 09:34.05 | stoned | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammed_Sui%A7mez |
| 09:34.08 | stoned | doh |
| 09:34.14 | stoned | it shows in color damn %variables |
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| 09:35.12 | waiting | I cannot simply copy & paste this to firefox 1.5 address bar ... |
| 09:35.39 | stoned | exactly |
| 09:35.49 | stoned | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammed_Sui% C3% A7mez |
| 09:35.51 | stoned | there |
| 09:35.58 | damn_kernel | Fox, better then Materazzi i remember Cannavaro, Nesta, Samuel... and uhm, boh? |
| 09:36.29 | stoned | remove the space between % C and % A |
| 09:36.29 | stoned | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophagist <-- or click on his name in this page |
| 09:36.29 | stoned | read about him, listen to his music if you can |
| 09:36.36 | Fox | damn_kernel: turam ? :) |
| 09:36.48 | damn_kernel | Fox, no :) |
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| 09:37.13 | damn_kernel | Thuram some year ago, but not now. |
| 09:37.35 | stoned | i dunno wtf happened to xcaht in sid |
| 09:37.46 | stoned | but that goddamn option about disabling %variables is gone |
| 09:37.52 | petemc | irssi 4tw |
| 09:37.54 | Fox | damn_kernel: are you sure you saw this year's world cup man ? :) |
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| 09:37.56 | damn_kernel | stoned, i'm using xchat in sid, why? |
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| 09:38.16 | xored | how can i mount with LUFIS an not anonymous FTP ? |
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| 09:38.40 | damn_kernel | Fox, i talk to the season 2005-2006, not of the only World cup. |
| 09:39.17 | Fox | then you'd better not talk about materazzi ;) |
| 09:39.20 | damn_kernel | in thil World Cup Thuram did a great tournament. |
| 09:39.25 | stoned | each of his songs features at LEAST 2-2.5 minutes of incredibly melodic fast shred neoclassical and extremely theory oriented harmonic movements over single contrapuntal melodic lins |
| 09:39.28 | Fox | but let's talk about debian only now :) |
| 09:39.28 | stoned | man its beautiful |
| 09:39.46 | stoned | the timing is immaculate, and such beautiful and obscure time signatures |
| 09:39.55 | stoned | I love counterpoint harmony |
| 09:40.01 | stoned | he knows what he's doing |
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| 09:40.08 | damn_kernel | Fox, as you want, i wish install a new kernel through live cd, bu i can.t |
| 09:40.13 | stoned | I feel so strong about it, that I am going on and on about it in #debian no less |
| 09:40.18 | waiting | :)) so you like fugal melodics? |
| 09:40.21 | stoned | ya'll gotta check him/Necrophagist out |
| 09:40.31 | Fox | damn_kernel: did you try chroot ? |
| 09:40.46 | damn_kernel | Fox: yes |
| 09:40.46 | stoned | I know, I know, "DEATH METAL" turns people off, but this is different |
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| 09:41.33 | stoned | such high amounts of technique on his instruments used to embellish the theoretical aspect of music, such high aesthetic beauty, I have NEVER heard in metal |
| 09:41.38 | damn_kernel | Fox, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/9Czl1Q69.html |
| 09:41.44 | stoned | and only bass/guitar/drums/vocals |
| 09:41.48 | stoned | no other instruments are used |
| 09:41.57 | stoned | anyway, I'm going to bed now |
| 09:41.59 | stoned | bye |
| 09:42.40 | Fox | damn_kernel: and I guess you already have en_US locale generated ? |
| 09:43.41 | damn_kernel | Fox, sincerily, i don't know and i don't know how :) |
| 09:44.06 | damn_kernel | how to generate a locale? |
| 09:44.38 | Fox | damn_kernel: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 09:44.51 | Fox | and check if you selected en_US |
| 09:45.20 | greap_ | how do you select which services to start on boot? |
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| 09:45.48 | damn_kernel | Fox, it was not |
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| 09:46.15 | Fox | ok, and what about your apt error now ? |
| 09:46.19 | petemc | greap_: sysv-rc-conf , you dont wanna mess with that too much if you dont know what you're doing tho |
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| 09:46.36 | damn_kernel | Fox now i paste. |
| 09:46.57 | greap_ | ah thanks petemc |
| 09:47.28 | damn_kernel | Fox, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CyZb6S68.html |
| 09:48.12 | meppl | guten morgen |
| 09:48.38 | Fox | damn_kernel: try 'apt-get -f install' |
| 09:49.07 | damn_kernel | Fox, same errors. |
| 09:49.34 | greap_ | petemc: I think what I meant to ask was how to start somthing like ssh automatically when the system boots up :) |
| 09:50.05 | petemc | greap_: thats the default |
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| 09:53.07 | Fox | damn_kernel: could you ls -ltr /dev/null please ? |
| 09:53.19 | anapivirtua | Re |
| 09:53.53 | damn_kernel | Fox, crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-07-20 17:19 |
| 09:54.32 | Fox | that's strange |
| 09:55.24 | Fox | damn_kernel: but why are you trying to install the kernel using a live CD ? |
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| 09:58.29 | damn_kernel | Fox, yes |
| 09:59.04 | damn_kernel | Fox, sorry, my kernel after upgrade don't boot anymore. |
| 09:59.47 | Fox | sorry about that :) |
| 10:00.06 | Fox | and what's the error when you try to boot the new kernel ? |
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| 10:01.46 | damn_kernel | Fox, it blcks when it load i2o |
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| 10:02.55 | Fox | you have an adaptec controler ? |
| 10:03.46 | damn_kernel | Fox, yes! and debian is installed on a raid disk. |
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| 10:04.45 | SNow | Hey, when installing debian on 81% of detecting hardware it stops saying that loading module ide-disk for linux ata disk and I can't install it, I have 3 hdd and 1 cd-rom on 1ghz celeron! with 128 ram, what shall I do ? |
| 10:04.53 | Fox | damn_kernel: but did you remove your old kernel after upgrading it ? |
| 10:05.23 | Fox | SNow: burn a new ISO ? |
| 10:05.28 | damn_kernel | Fox, no, apt-get upgrade upgraded the kernel. |
| 10:05.42 | SNow | fox do you think that's because of debian version |
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| 10:06.13 | Fox | SNow: no, maybe a bad CD, I had the same problem a few weeks ago |
| 10:06.31 | Fox | damn_kernel: do you see your old kernel at the lilo/grub prompt ? |
| 10:06.35 | SNow | with this cd I have already installed 10 routers |
| 10:06.39 | SNow | that can't be.. |
| 10:06.48 | damn_kernel | Fox, no, but the kernel is the same. |
| 10:06.56 | SNow | there are many hdd's and I had pproblems with it's connection maybe that's because of it? |
| 10:06.58 | Fox | ok, I see |
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| 10:07.28 | Fox | SNow: you had problems connecting your hdd's to your motherboard ? |
| 10:08.10 | SNow | no, setting slaves, masters |
| 10:08.11 | SNow | and so on |
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| 10:08.18 | SNow | it didn't wanted to run |
| 10:08.21 | Fox | ok |
| 10:08.23 | SNow | I have been rebooting it many times |
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| 10:08.41 | SNow | and it stills stops on that 81% |
| 10:09.07 | Fox | SNow: you're not using the netinstall CD, are you ? |
| 10:09.28 | SNow | I am :)) |
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| 10:10.13 | Fox | try burning another Cd anyway, that's the first thing I would try |
| 10:10.19 | SNow | hmmmz |
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| 10:11.09 | SNow | I can't still believe that it's bad cd |
| 10:11.13 | SNow | can you? |
| 10:11.14 | SNow | ;] |
| 10:11.51 | Fox | I can, I had the problem :) |
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| 10:13.45 | xored | how can i mount with LUFIS an not anonymous FTP ?any tips what to use for developing on a FTP share ? |
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| 10:22.32 | yang | what is wrong with this line ? scp -P 221 yang@hostname:/home/yang/rsync-key.pub |
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| 10:23.33 | row | whats php5's mysqli package in debian, does not seem to be installed. |
| 10:23.47 | row | by php-mysql I mean |
| 10:24.15 | row | +5 |
| 10:24.44 | Dwonis | yang: You don't have a destination file? |
| 10:25.29 | yang | Dwonis: destination is rsync-key.pub |
| 10:25.35 | Dwonis | yang: source, then |
| 10:25.47 | Dwonis | yang: scp needs a source and a destination |
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| 10:26.53 | yang | Dwonis: thanks |
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| 10:32.23 | {cyborg} | weissi: hi |
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| 10:50.03 | root-80686 | hi |
| 10:50.18 | damn_kernel | Fox, are you steel here? |
| 10:50.24 | damn_kernel | *still |
| 10:51.10 | root-80686 | is there a possibility to change the behavior of the netboot-cd that it doesn't load the debian-installer but a rescue-shell? |
| 10:52.05 | liable | root-80686: sure, which one, sarge or etch |
| 10:53.03 | root-80686 | liable: sarge |
| 10:53.20 | Wassim | how to create a daemon |
| 10:53.29 | liable | root-80686: let it run up to the partitioner, then change to vt2, mount your / and chroot |
| 10:54.03 | root-80686 | liable: is there no direct way? maybe changing the init-process in pxelinux.cfg/default? |
| 10:54.37 | liable | root-80686: not that i have heard of. why do you need to do that? |
| 10:55.10 | root-80686 | liable: i just want to be able to boot a machine via netboot into linux, nothing more |
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| 10:55.53 | liable | root-80686: the etch installer has a rescue option, look into that |
| 10:56.07 | root-80686 | liable: oki, that's it! thanks |
| 10:58.35 | row | Anyone know what the ETA for php5-mysqli is for debian unstable? |
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| 10:58.54 | SlayerXP | row: before december 2008 for sure. |
| 10:59.25 | row | are we talking weeks or months or what? |
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| 10:59.43 | SlayerXP | row: before december 2008 for sure. |
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| 11:00.43 | row | is that meant to be funny? |
| 11:01.22 | petemc | humour is relative |
| 11:02.54 | Dwonis | my relatives aren't funny |
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| 11:04.12 | xerophyte | with 2.6.x kernel configuration does anybody know where can i find the ip_conntrack_ftp i searched on the networking option could not find it ??? |
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| 11:07.42 | infernix | xerophyte: with make menuconfig, you can search. push '/' and enter conntrack_ftp |
| 11:07.43 | Dwonis | xerophyte: I'm not totally sure if this is the right thing or not, but have you tried: Networking -> Networking options -> Network packet filtering -> IP: Network Configuration -> Connection Tracking -> FTP protocol support |
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| 11:08.08 | Dwonis | infernix: Cool! |
| 11:08.12 | infernix | its called netfilter conntrack nowadays tho |
| 11:09.39 | Dwonis | infernix: /conntrack_ftp seems to refer to a menu path that doesn't exist |
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| 11:11.43 | possie | i want to start dragging a window in gnome while holding down the alt key where can i configure this? |
| 11:12.06 | petemc | it doesnt just work? |
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| 11:12.29 | Dwonis | possie: I think you have to use the middle mouse button or something to do the dragging |
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| 11:12.35 | Dwonis | possie: I use WindowMaker, so I dunno |
| 11:13.03 | kroddn | possie: i think you have to configure that in your window manager |
| 11:13.30 | kroddn | i use sawfish, but i can't find a command for that |
| 11:15.11 | possie | petemc, no, i always thought it did |
| 11:15.19 | petemc | aol |
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| 11:16.04 | row | would dotdeb.org's php5 packages work on a debian unstable install? |
| 11:16.25 | lindenle | Ok got a strange one here. My firefox seems to only redraw its window when I select another window so there is often text missing in the screen. Anyone have a clue why this might be? |
| 11:16.46 | xerophyte | infernix, modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.17.6/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_ftp which give me error but ip_conntrac_ftp module file is there /lib/modules/2.6.17.6/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_ftp.ko |
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| 11:19.34 | infernix | hm. |
| 11:20.00 | infernix | search for ip_nf_ftp |
| 11:20.16 | infernix | probably what you want |
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| 11:20.50 | infernix | but in order to have that, make sure you do turn on config_netfilter_xtables and CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_CONNTRACK |
| 11:21.29 | infernix | to make things easy you could consider just compiling everything as a module. |
| 11:21.46 | infernix | thats the entire Core Netfilter Configuration and IP: Netfilter Configuration |
| 11:21.52 | lindenle | Also can someone help me with a UTS_VERSION error when using mak-kpkg |
| 11:22.37 | infernix | xerophyte: besides that, if you get an error inserting that module, i suggest doing a make clean before rebuilding the kernel |
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| 11:24.11 | shining | lindenle: which kernel and kernel-package version? |
| 11:24.11 | xerophyte | infernix, FATAL: Error inserting ip_conntrack_ftp (/lib/modules/2.6.17.6/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_ftp.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
| 11:24.25 | xerophyte | infernix, i did make clean and recompiling lets see what happens |
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| 11:26.02 | lindenle | shining: I am using vanilla source 2.6.17 with the 2.6.18-rc2 patch applied. The kernel seems to build fine except at the very end it has the error about UTS_VERSION mismatch in version.h |
| 11:27.22 | shining | lindenle: you didn't tell me which kernel-package version |
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| 11:28.51 | lindenle | shining: 10.049 |
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| 11:30.20 | DjOLEE | i have only HD how to install debian across network? or internet or such |
| 11:30.49 | shining | lindenle: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=378257 : |
| 11:30.50 | shining | Found in version kernel-package/10.049; |
| 11:30.52 | shining | Fixed in version kernel-package/10.050 by Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>. |
| 11:30.55 | DjOLEE | on my box j cant have two IDE device |
| 11:31.33 | DjOLEE | how i can install deb over network/net |
| 11:31.43 | lindenle | shining: very cool so how can I apt-get 10.050 |
| 11:32.05 | Fox | DjOLEE: using PXE boot |
| 11:32.06 | shining | lindenle: no idea, which branch? |
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| 11:32.19 | lindenle | etch |
| 11:32.24 | lindenle | I will find it |
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| 11:34.45 | shining | lindenle: seems like kernel-package regularly migrates from unstable to testing. so you can just wait. |
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| 11:35.33 | Chandu | hi guys |
| 11:35.44 | lindenle | shining: can't wait ;) |
| 11:35.56 | Chandu | I want to build a distro based on debian with graphical installer |
| 11:36.06 | Chandu | can I build with debian GUI Installar itself |
| 11:36.16 | Chandu | If so How to build any doc available |
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| 11:37.02 | lindenle | shining:gonna have to mix in a little unstable i guess |
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| 11:37.09 | shining | lindenle: maybe |
| 11:37.50 | lindenle | shining: got her |
| 11:38.03 | lindenle | shining:thanks for the help, I should have searched the bugs ;) |
| 11:38.10 | shining | indeed |
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| 11:38.32 | lindenle | shining: Yeah my firefox is kind of hosed so i got lazy... |
| 11:38.51 | lindenle | shining: It wont redraw unless i switch to another windows so lots of text is missing |
| 11:39.08 | lindenle | shining: makes it hard to search for anything |
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| 11:41.18 | |^o_o^| | I have made an entry of ramdisk_size=16000 in my grub.lst but it doesn't get increased |
| 11:41.38 | lindenle | shining: but just found that one in the archive too |
| 11:41.42 | lindenle | libcairo proble |
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| 11:43.03 | dimir | !nickometer |^o_o^| |
| 11:43.04 | dpkg | '|^o_o^|' is 99.850% lame, dimir |
| 11:43.11 | dimir | :-D |
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| 11:44.06 | GTX | How do I monitor the bandwidth on my server of a certain port? I have mrtg installed but have no Idea how to make it monitor a certain port |
| 11:44.11 | Fox | I wish I knew what's the 0.150% that's not lame :) |
| 11:44.33 | roxy_ | what nick gives a result of 100% ? |
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| 11:44.44 | roxy_ | !nickometer gates |
| 11:44.45 | dpkg | 'gates' is 0.000% lame, roxy_ |
| 11:45.37 | |^o_o^| | dpkg, any suggestion |
| 11:45.40 | Fox | GTX: man cfgmaker |
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| 11:46.26 | GTX | Fox, no entry for that. |
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| 11:46.44 | Fox | install it then |
| 11:46.50 | GTX | No package either.. |
| 11:47.21 | Fox | are you sure you installed mrtg... |
| 11:47.23 | GTX | You mean cfgstoragemaker ? |
| 11:47.26 | Fox | fox@host1 :~$dpkg -S /usr/bin/cfgmaker |
| 11:47.27 | Fox | mrtg: /usr/bin/cfgmaker |
| 11:47.36 | Fox | cfgmaker is PART of the mrtg package |
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| 11:47.52 | GTX | I installed mrtg manualy from source |
| 11:48.25 | WolfgangB | Was there anything in this week's updates to testing that is known to break nvidia driver? |
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| 11:48.59 | Fox | GTX: did you have a very good reason to build it from sources ? |
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| 11:49.14 | GTX | Fox, Yeah I had to do some manual complie things |
| 11:49.17 | Fox | WolfgangB: checked the BTS ? |
| 11:49.17 | MannieX | hi people |
| 11:49.28 | Fox | GTX: ? |
| 11:49.29 | MannieX | excuse me, i want to extract .zip file |
| 11:49.34 | MannieX | how i can do that ? |
| 11:49.40 | sales | use something like |
| 11:49.40 | Fox | MannieX: apt-get install unzip |
| 11:49.44 | sales | apt-get install me |
| 11:49.47 | sales | sorry |
| 11:49.49 | MannieX | tnx Fox |
| 11:49.50 | sales | apt-get install mc |
| 11:49.51 | WolfgangB | Fox: what's bts? |
| 11:49.56 | Fox | !bts |
| 11:49.56 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 11:50.00 | sales | !mc |
| 11:50.00 | dpkg | mc is probably Midnight Commander an orthodox file manager for Unix-like systems (also works in Windows) and a clone of Norton Commander. Midnight Commander is a text mode application. The main interface consists of two panels which display the file system. see: http://www.ibiblio.org/mc/FAQ |
| 11:50.13 | azeem | sales: mc doesn't depen on unzip |
| 11:50.19 | sales | azeem: yes it does |
| 11:50.32 | |^o_o^| | !modprobe |
| 11:50.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, modprobe is something you use to install modules with it |
| 11:50.53 | azeem | sales: no, it doesn't |
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| 11:51.18 | GTX | Fox, Ok managed to install cfgmaker... I still cannot see abit to monitor a certain port |
| 11:51.21 | WolfgangB | Fox: i did check for reportet bugs but without knowing which package might be affected an without a useful error message i found nothing. |
| 11:51.22 | |^o_o^| | !lsmod |
| 11:51.28 | azeem | |^o_o^|: please /msg dpkg |
| 11:52.46 | shining | Suggests: perl, mime-support, zip, unzip, bzip2, links | w3m | lynx, arj |
| 11:52.47 | sales | azeem: ok |
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| 11:53.06 | sales | azeem: mc rocks eitherway :) |
| 11:53.10 | Fox | WolfgangB: apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 11:53.33 | Fox | WolfgangB: next time you might know something is broken before you install it ;) |
| 11:54.16 | WolfgangB | Fox: got that one already. |
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| 11:54.43 | [Nige] | hi all |
| 11:54.49 | GTX | Fox, Any ideas on the cfgmaker question up there ^^? |
| 11:55.33 | [Nige] | i am waiting to build a pxe server (so client can use a pxe boot options to load thingslike memetest and stress linux) |
| 11:55.41 | [Nige] | where would I start?> |
| 11:56.00 | sales | grub boot loader? :D |
| 11:56.03 | Fox | GTX: read cfgmaker's man via the web, and help yourself :) |
| 11:56.27 | [Nige] | sales, that doesnt help me with networked pcs :) |
| 11:56.44 | Fox | GTX: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/cfgmaker.1.html |
| 11:56.45 | sales | shell script |
| 11:56.47 | GTX | Fox, I have their is nothing there to monitor a local port, only remote port. |
| 11:56.53 | GTX | ie snmp |
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| 12:02.19 | sid | What would be the reason; that apt-get would ignore a newer package..and not install it? |
| 12:02.49 | azeem | sid: pinning |
| 12:02.54 | azeem | sid: apt-cache policy <package> |
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| 12:03.33 | Razva | where are the apt-get archives located in? |
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| 12:03.45 | liran1 | you mean the cache on the hard drive? |
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| 12:03.47 | petemc | Razva: locally? /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 12:04.04 | liran1 | right. |
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| 12:06.04 | azeem | sid: read the apt-preferences manpage |
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| 12:08.37 | darth_chatri | i'm trying to compile gaim2-beta, it complains that it cant find gtk2 even though the libgtk2.0-dev package has been installed |
| 12:08.43 | darth_chatri | i'm running sid |
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| 12:08.54 | roxy_ | I already ask the question this morning but I'd like to have more opinions: I always learn new stuff, like the set of commands to build a new kernel, get alsa working ... How professional sys ad takes track of it. Do you have a directory where you write "memory files", do you use special tools, a wiki maybe |
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| 12:09.20 | yassinework | hello everyone |
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| 12:09.35 | sid | darth_chatri: apt-get build-dep gaim; |
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| 12:11.58 | yassinework | i have a question related to apache on debian i have installed debian 3.1 from a cd img and installed some apache modules like mod_jk mod_perl and stuff now my question is why do i have /etc/apache AND /etc/apache2 where the httpd.conf is empty in the apache2 directory does this means that only the only under apache is active and that i only need to make my changes there ? |
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| 12:21.04 | SN^Vampire[unix] | hello all |
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| 12:23.00 | SN^Vampire[unix] | when i try to execute "wine war3.exe" it's ok, but very sloow. When i try to "wine war3.exe -opengl" i have a fatal error. What it may be? Video driver the latest.. |
| 12:23.15 | infernix | that's a question to ask in #winehq |
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| 12:23.51 | SN^Vampire[unix] | ok.. soryy |
| 12:24.33 | infernix | roxy_: by doing stuff enough times, commands can simply be memorized. for me at least. |
| 12:24.40 | infernix | roxy_: the rest i google, man, or RTFM. |
| 12:25.09 | infernix | roxy_: but this is as with all things i guess. practice makes perfect ;) |
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| 12:27.50 | roxy_ | infernix: so when after searching hours a set of command to do a certain task, you don't write them somewhere ? |
| 12:28.11 | infernix | roxy_: I do put some stuff on a wiki but thats more process related, e.g. the technical aspects *alongside* the organisational/financial/... aspect. |
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| 12:28.17 | Paras | Channel, need some help. Which package replaces cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data in etch? |
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| 12:28.39 | roxy_ | infernix: what wiki do you use ? |
| 12:28.52 | shining | roxy_: I often found something on the web, and I bookmark it |
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| 12:29.43 | Viking1 | cd #flood |
| 12:30.22 | roxy_ | shining: so you have like subversion, apache, kernel bookmark ? |
| 12:30.23 | Viking1 | good moring anyone help with question in #flood |
| 12:31.22 | Edward_TLS | can I lover the fin-wait1 timeout... ? |
| 12:31.39 | shining | roxy_: well since I don't use apache, and I use subversion only with "svn up", I only have a kernel dir, with various stuff in it |
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| 12:31.54 | roxy_ | Edward_TLS: you can love everybody and everybody loves you :-) |
| 12:32.03 | shining | it can give you a quick access to a lot of informations |
| 12:32.07 | yassinework | i have a question related to apache on debian i have installed debian 3.1 from a cd img and installed some apache modules like mod_jk mod_perl and stuff now my question is why do i have /etc/apache AND /etc/apache2 where the httpd.conf is empty in the apache2 directory does this means that only the only under apache is active and that i only need to make my changes there ? |
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| 12:32.28 | Viking1 | anyone care to help with a problem in #flood? |
| 12:32.33 | Viking1 | thanks |
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| 12:33.04 | roxy_ | shining: and with konqueror I could add link to my own text file. That seems promising :-) |
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| 12:34.03 | infernix | yassinework: depending on if you're running apache or apache2, you need to edit either or. dpkg -l | grep apache to find out |
| 12:34.04 | roxy_ | Viking1: I hardly get 20% of my questions answered here, I think you'll have trouble geting people joining a channel to help you :) |
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| 12:34.40 | Viking1 | ok so how can I get help |
| 12:34.49 | infernix | roxy_: i am usually able to search for the same commands again when i need it, however obscure they might be. i have a pretty solid memory when it comes to tech stuff. |
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| 12:35.02 | Viking1 | cause I have a script that used to work with debian builds up to May -6 |
| 12:35.06 | Viking1 | sorry 06 |
| 12:35.28 | Viking1 | now in trying to run the same script with June/July debian builds |
| 12:35.39 | Viking1 | I get command line not found |
| 12:35.42 | Viking1 | errors |
| 12:35.54 | infernix | roxy_: but for stuff beyond the tech, i use mediawiki with a few patches |
| 12:35.56 | yassinework | infernix, that gives me this back : http://rafb.net/paste/results/IUGA4231.html |
| 12:38.48 | Edward_TLS | roxy_, lower i mean hehe... |
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| 12:41.13 | infernix | yassinework: so you see, you have both apache and apache2 installed. my guess is that apache is active and apache2 is not. |
| 12:41.52 | roxy_ | infernix: thanks for the tips. |
| 12:42.54 | yassinework | infernix, is there a way to remove the apache and leave the apache2 ? |
| 12:42.54 | yassinework | as a main server |
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| 12:42.55 | infernix | Viking1: what do you mean with a debian build? what version of debian are you running and what is the error (be more specific) |
| 12:42.55 | infernix | yassinework: dpkg --purge apache |
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| 12:42.55 | infernix | yassinework: dpkg --purge apache-common as well i suppose. apt-get remove apache also does the trick. |
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| 12:44.27 | infernix | roxy_: i use the restriction mediawiki patch to limit access to certain pages (as this is not what a wiki can do by design) plus some patches that let me run php code, colorize source code based on what language it is et cetera |
| 12:45.14 | yassinework | infernix, neither --purge nor remove works :s |
| 12:45.31 | infernix | yassinework: if apt-get remove apache doesnt work, put the errors in a pastebin. |
| 12:45.38 | yassinework | http://rafb.net/paste/results/VWtqMa25.html |
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| 12:45.41 | infernix | maybe try apt-get -f remove |
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| 12:46.06 | roxy_ | infernix: well, I am a java/ruby programer so we'll use Xwiki or instiki. I was hoping for some very light emacs's muse-mode like wiki. |
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| 12:46.25 | infernix | yassinework: in the dpkg -l | grep apache, ii = installed, rc = removed. you can now dpkg --purge any package noted as 'rc' |
| 12:46.54 | yassinework | ohh thanks infernix |
| 12:47.02 | yassinework | so now its no more installed ? |
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| 12:47.23 | infernix | rc = removed but configuration files are still left intact. if you purge it, those are removed as well. |
| 12:47.26 | darth_chatri | anyone using gaim 2.0 beta? |
| 12:47.44 | WolfgangB | !nvidia |
| 12:47.44 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 12:47.51 | yassinework | infernix, rc libapache-mod- 1.2.5-2 Apache 1.3 connector for the Tomcat Java ser depends on apache ? |
| 12:48.02 | darth_chatri | the dependencies seem to be different, so apt-get build-dep wont work |
| 12:48.11 | WolfgangB | !nvidia one-liner |
| 12:48.11 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 12:48.57 | infernix | yassinework: there's probably an apache2 equivalent. apt-cache search tomcat | grep apache2 |
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| 12:49.37 | mha13 | where can i find ppd files for lexmark printer ? |
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| 12:49.41 | Neil_ | I've just enabled remote logging on my syslog server (by adding SYSLOGD="-r" to /etc/init.d/sysklogd) - which seems to work, however it's stopped logging local events.. is there something obvious I might have messed up? |
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| 12:50.43 | yassinework | ineiros, your right libapache2-mod-jk2 - Apache 2.0 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine BUT unfortunatly the mod_jk2 is no more developed by the apache foundation since 2003 :s |
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| 12:52.15 | liable | bleh, gnome is sooo ugly |
| 12:52.17 | ^osh^ | I'm trying to learn how to build .debs. Anyone care to give some assistance? The specific error is this. "install: cannot create regular file ..." is that an error in the control-file or something else? |
| 12:52.23 | liable | and my fonts are fuzzy |
| 12:52.33 | infernix | Neil_: i prefer syslog-ng when i log remotely and locally. its much more flexible. |
| 12:53.41 | ^osh^ | I'm using pbuilder if that matters. |
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| 13:00.10 | ^osh^ | No assistance for a wannabe packager? |
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| 13:01.33 | Viking1 | I am getting this error with this script that used to work with older debian and perl builds |
| 13:01.37 | Viking1 | : command not foundine: line 26: |
| 13:01.37 | Viking1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.52 | Viking1 | http://pastebin.ca/94681 |
| 13:02.03 | ^osh^ | Also, I meant debian/rules not debian/control above... |
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| 13:02.41 | neuro_damage | is this a bad line in sources.list because i can't fetch anything from the security server |
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| 13:02.55 | azeem | neuro_damage: "this"? |
| 13:02.56 | neuro_damage | deb httP://security.debian.org/ testing main contrib? |
| 13:03.06 | neuro_damage | in my sources.list |
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| 13:03.25 | azeem | !testing security |
| 13:03.26 | dpkg | [testing security] Put "deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Etch, or ask me about <testing security key> |
| 13:03.45 | seicherlbob | hi there! i have to hunt down a virus. can anybody help me with a couple of commands? I need to find all files that have been changed in a specific date-range |
| 13:04.07 | roxy_ | seicherlbob: man find |
| 13:04.25 | neuro_damage | !testing |
| 13:04.25 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 13:04.28 | yeager | virus in debian? |
| 13:04.31 | infernix | Viking1: again, what do you mean with a debian build? what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:04.55 | Viking1 | well I have used etch and sid |
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| 13:05.01 | Viking1 | both have the error |
| 13:05.06 | Viking1 | but didn't in May |
| 13:05.12 | drasko | how to see which groups I belong? |
| 13:05.14 | seicherlbob | roxy_: thanks... just feel like loosing my mind aswell as the little stuff i know about linux... |
| 13:05.15 | neuro_damage | how would I build a .deb package? |
| 13:05.18 | neuro_damage | using dpkg ? |
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| 13:05.49 | roxy_ | drasko: have a look in /etc/groups |
| 13:05.53 | vlt | Hello. I'm using Debian Sarge with CUPS v1.1.23. How can I put a printer in a state where new print jobs are collected in the spooler but not printed yet. I tried stopping the printer but then my actual job is stopped, too. |
| 13:06.00 | neuro_damage | azeem, what's wrong with this ? then ? |
| 13:06.05 | LinuxNIT | drasko, type groups |
| 13:06.19 | neuro_damage | deb ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/debian etch/updates main contrib? |
| 13:06.20 | azeem | neuro_damage: use the one from the factoid, I'd say |
| 13:06.21 | infernix | neuro_damage: you'll want to read a guide on that. think its the debian maintainers guide (google) |
| 13:06.25 | yeager | neuro: use apt-build |
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| 13:06.37 | eXiSt | hi |
| 13:06.42 | ^osh^ | neuro_damage: I'm struggeling with that too. I managed to get it to chew through the pbuilder so I'm slowly making progress. I think. |
| 13:06.57 | neuro_damage | ^osh^, ok |
| 13:07.23 | mha13 | im unable to find lexmark driver (3330) |
| 13:07.30 | infernix | Viking1: that script is some custom application that's running. its near impossible for us to say anything useful about whats going wrong. |
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| 13:08.20 | ^osh^ | neuro_damage: both debian and ubunto have fairly good guides. The simplest I've found is this one. https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide but it's not debian, although I suspect they are very alike for the most part. |
| 13:08.33 | neuro_damage | right same package managers |
| 13:08.47 | neuro_damage | well i'm just using testing because it contains things that are usefull but it also seems to be broken for gnome right now |
| 13:09.17 | eXiSt | Ý have debian sarge gateway. It has 2 different isp interface. My local network can go internet via sarge gateway by SNAT. I can connect to sarge gateway from outside. But sarge gateway cant connect anywhere itself. I checked if it is a resolvname problem but not.I tried to disable all iptables rules also. it didnt work. |
| 13:09.21 | seicherlbob | roxy_: ok. but if i do "find . -mtime 1" when i'm at /home it wont give me all files that have been modified in the last 24 hours |
| 13:09.24 | eXiSt | Please help me |
| 13:09.46 | neuro_damage | ^osh^, changing etch/updates to just etch will work for it |
| 13:10.02 | eXiSt | what can it be? |
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| 13:10.27 | neuro_damage | but when I apt-get install gnome, i get the following messages have unmet dependencies, gnome-desktop-environment ****** but it is ot going to be installed |
| 13:10.29 | mha13 | what is etch and sarge ? (3.2/unsrable and 3.1 ?) |
| 13:10.35 | neuro_damage | ^osh^, are you familiar with this output? |
| 13:10.45 | infernix | eXiSt: traceroute -n to an ip (f.example traceroute -n 194.134.5.5) on the sarge box. paste results in a pastebin |
| 13:10.46 | liable | eXiSt: so it cant even ping outside? |
| 13:10.50 | yeager | exist: do you use a proxy? have you enabled ip_forwarding? |
| 13:11.16 | eXiSt | i cant ping anywhere |
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| 13:11.55 | ^osh^ | neuro_damage: Unfortunatly no. I'm quite new to debian. Been working with .rpms and packaging those. I'd be happy to help with anything in that area. ;-) |
| 13:12.12 | roxy_ | seicherlbob: not that you modified, but that have been modified |
| 13:12.16 | yeager | exist: you should be able to at least ping your internal machines |
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| 13:12.31 | yassinework | infernix, thanks you for the precious help man! |
| 13:12.39 | eXiSt | i can ping my local machines. they go internet via sarge gateway |
| 13:12.41 | infernix | yassinework: you're welcome;) |
| 13:13.14 | infernix | eXiSt: traceroute -n to an ip (f.example traceroute -n 194.134.5.5) on the sarge box. paste results in a pastebin and tell us the URL to it. |
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| 13:13.23 | seicherlbob | roxy_: i'm sorry. i can hardly concentrate causei got a whole network infected with a serious virus... please. just tell me how i can find those files in the home-directories that have been modified in the last 24 hours. |
| 13:13.33 | eXiSt | infernix i can see only *** hops |
| 13:13.41 | eXiSt | nothing |
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| 13:13.44 | infernix | eXiSt: the first one already? |
| 13:13.50 | roxy_ | seicherlbob: afaik, the command you gave is ok |
| 13:13.56 | eps | I want to test a cpu that is playing up...it seems to only be on specific function calls...is there a burn in test that checks all of the functions (or most of them)? |
| 13:14.02 | seicherlbob | roxy_: oh... |
| 13:14.06 | eXiSt | infernix yep |
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| 13:14.51 | eXiSt | orion:~# traceroute -n 72.14.207.99 |
| 13:14.51 | eXiSt | traceroute to 72.14.207.99 (72.14.207.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets |
| 13:14.51 | eXiSt | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.05 | roxy_ | seicherlbob: but i am not sure, honestly the find man page is your best friend |
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| 13:15.12 | infernix | eXiSt: do not paste here. do you have a default gateway? if so, can you ping it? |
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| 13:15.38 | seicherlbob | roxy_: well, thats where i got that from. |
| 13:15.51 | Frostbite | Why would grub load the bzImage and initrd and just sit without running the kernel when I have > 4 disks in the machine? |
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| 13:16.01 | seicherlbob | roxy_: ok. what about doing ls -Ral and check the ouput? |
| 13:16.07 | infernix | eXiSt: route -n. |
| 13:16.14 | roxy_ | seicherlbob: if you got a serious virus, it probably change the access date of the file so it doesn't really matter, afaik |
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| 13:16.32 | Frostbite | Why would grub load the bzImage and initrd and just sit without running the kernel when I have > 4 disks in the machine? |
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| 13:16.50 | Frostbite | sorry, mistake in reposting |
| 13:17.10 | infernix | seicherlbob: find /location -ctime 1 |
| 13:17.20 | seicherlbob | roxy_: it looks like it infected a couple of files. i can see that. many files have the same MTime but have not been modified since they where put there. so i want to find those files to "quarantine" them |
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| 13:17.44 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: find /home -cmin -20 -print |
| 13:18.05 | infernix | seicherlbob: e.g., man find and search for mtime/ctime/atime, mmin/cmin/amin |
| 13:18.10 | yeager | seicherlbob: use some nice forensics tools like autopsy or tct |
| 13:18.12 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: change "20" to whatever minute-value you want. |
| 13:19.04 | fly_80 | hello, I have an USB key that should work as bluetooth device . I have to install some additional program ? |
| 13:19.28 | seicherlbob | find /home -cmin -600 was a success |
| 13:19.42 | seicherlbob | and its more than i wanted it to be |
| 13:19.56 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: 1440 is a full 24 hours if my math is accurate. |
| 13:20.44 | seicherlbob | ^osh^: 600 is enough. they are all set to MTime 11:00 today |
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| 13:21.38 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: but "man" is your friend. Everything you need is in there. I got it from there, so you could have too. |
| 13:21.38 | sollust | hello...how do I use the gnome menu command for "run as different user" if it's not a menu item any longer? |
| 13:21.44 | yeager | seicherlbob: run chkrootkit or rkhunter to see that you don't have any changed binaries |
| 13:21.53 | seicherlbob | roxy_: ah... it would have been find . -mtime -1 the minus was missing |
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| 13:22.36 | seicherlbob | yeager: its not the server as such infected. its a windows-virus that infected files via samba |
| 13:23.06 | infernix | seicherlbob: if its nondestructive, consider just installing a virusscanner, disabling samba, and scanning+cleaning /home |
| 13:23.38 | seicherlbob | yeager: so i want to move those files to "quarantine" so i can restart samba with RO and care about the infected files later |
| 13:23.40 | infernix | seicherlbob: linux scanners can actually clean windows viruses if they dont overwrite data inside the files |
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| 13:24.10 | yeager | seicherlbob: i would do a network scan from a windows machine to clear the files |
| 13:24.20 | seicherlbob | infernix: i would like to deal with that later. i can use find to move those files somewhere else. right? |
| 13:24.38 | infernix | seicherlbob: why don't you use a virusscanner to detect which files are infected? |
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| 13:24.54 | infernix | seicherbob: thats going to give a much more precise result as a find. |
| 13:25.16 | seicherlbob | infernix: cause i got other troubles atm ;) i have to save like 3 windows-clients running critical stuff for our small business here |
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| 13:26.15 | abrotman | that's just silly |
| 13:26.20 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: find /home -cmin -600 -print | xargs mv /wherever |
| 13:26.27 | infernix | seicherlbob: well in that case, once you have the right find command tha tshows you the files you want to move, then you can do find -mtime -1 -exec mv {} /some/place/safe \; |
| 13:26.28 | ^osh^ | seicherlbob: I think. |
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| 13:27.17 | seicherlbob | infernix: will that keep the pathinfo? |
| 13:27.25 | infernix | seicherlbob: nope. |
| 13:27.32 | seicherlbob | great |
| 13:27.37 | roxy_ | abrotman: I am in the process of solving my "makefile" deletes everything problem: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1523902&forum_id=390417 |
| 13:27.47 | infernix | seicherlbob: you can consider a chmod 000 as root, effectively making the files inaccessible. |
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| 13:28.09 | seicherlbob | infernix: thats great man! |
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| 13:28.25 | infernix | seicherlbob: so you'd do -exec chmod 000 {} \; |
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| 13:29.20 | eXiSt | infernix i use iproute commands for routing |
| 13:29.35 | seicherlbob | infernix: ok... let me have a look |
| 13:29.42 | infernix | eXiSt: makes sense if you're multihomed, but you dont seem to have a working gateway. |
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| 13:30.01 | infernix | eXiSt: so still the question applies, do you have one and can you ping it |
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| 13:31.14 | seicherlbob | infernix: so if i now set all samba-shares as readonly, the virus wont get in or out. right? |
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| 13:32.21 | abrotman | roxy_: sounds weird |
| 13:32.45 | infernix | seicherlbob: in theory. but i'd check from windows to make sure you cant access the files you chmod 000-ed |
| 13:33.16 | sollust | hello...how do I use the gnome menu command for "run as different user" if it's not a menu item any longer? |
| 13:33.16 | seicherlbob | infernix: ok... sorry guys but the virus also infected my brain i think |
| 13:33.17 | infernix | seicherlbob: and dont reload samba but restart it |
| 13:33.18 | roxy_ | abrotman: I don't understand anything but if it can get my wifi working. |
| 13:34.14 | seicherlbob | infernix: it was shut down before anyway so ;) |
| 13:34.21 | seicherlbob | infernix: looks like it works |
| 13:34.47 | seicherlbob | so at least i can listen to some music now ;) |
| 13:35.14 | seicherlbob | thanks for now and CU later |
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| 13:38.21 | Ironhand | I'm trying to reduce the size of a raid1 array from 2 to 1 disks (mdadm --grow /dev/md0 -n 1). I'm told that '1' is an unusual number and that I should use --force |
| 13:38.36 | Ironhand | when I use the --force option, I recieve the error "mdadm: option f not valid in grow mode" |
| 13:38.47 | Ironhand | how can I reduce the array size? |
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| 13:39.31 | LinuxNIT | wich file do you add modules to to prevent them from loading on boot? |
| 13:39.52 | Chandu | hi can I know How to build debian distro uing Debian GUI Installar |
| 13:39.55 | stew | LinuxNIT: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 13:39.59 | Chandu | Any document available |
| 13:40.01 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 13:40.12 | stew | Chandu: /msg dpkg g-i |
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| 13:40.46 | Chandu | What will be the size of runtime img in Debian GUI Installer |
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| 13:41.35 | Chandu | stew: I didnt get what is that |
| 13:41.45 | stew | !g-i |
| 13:41.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, g-i is the new Debian graphical installer. Try it! Simply download and boot the latest daily from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ then type the word installgui at the boot prompt. Note: do not use etch beta2, use a daily. |
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| 13:42.12 | b1z | hello, is there a way to find out how many bits my ssh privkey has? |
| 13:42.18 | Chandu | from where I can get g-i |
| 13:42.30 | stew | Chandu: dpkg just said |
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| 13:43.05 | Chandu | ok |
| 13:43.24 | abrotman | Ironhand: you mean .. make it not RAID anymore? |
| 13:43.27 | Chandu | stew: May I know what will the runtime filesystem compressed image size If I use g-i |
| 13:43.49 | stew | b1z: ssh-keygen -l |
| 13:44.03 | Ironhand | abrotman: no, make it a 1 disk raid... I know it sounds pointless, but it's a transitional situation |
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| 13:44.28 | stew | Chandu: i'm not sure which filesystem you are talking about |
| 13:44.43 | b1z | thanks stew |
| 13:45.24 | peterS | Ironhand: simple way is to fail the device you don't want in there |
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| 13:45.48 | peterS | Ironhand: mdadm --fail /dev/hdc1 or whatever |
| 13:45.49 | abrotman | Ironhand: that's not RAID |
| 13:45.50 | Chandu | stew: In Textmode installar cd there is file called initrd in install folder , right . that initrd contains the runtime filesystem.whith which the cd works as a live cd , So I want the size of that initrd.img image with g-i as installar |
| 13:46.15 | Chandu | Because I saw for text mode installar it is only 12mb |
| 13:46.34 | peterS | Ironhand: or you might be able to --remove devices without failing them, I'm not sure |
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| 13:47.01 | Chandu | stew: But in redhat anaconda , same runtime filesystem is in file stage2.img , its aroung 130mb |
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| 13:47.05 | peterS | abrotman: hehe. getting up. |
| 13:47.06 | Ironhand | abrotman: ok, a 1 disk md block device then |
| 13:47.16 | Chandu | stew: So I want to know what will the size of that image if I use g-i |
| 13:47.20 | peterS | Ironhand: looks like you have to --fail a device before you can --remove it |
| 13:47.44 | Chandu | Stew: Bcz If runtime is taking less space in cd , I can add more packages what I want in cD |
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| 13:48.00 | ruiwen | hi guys.. if i wanna set up a debian mirror, how do i verify the authenticity of the packages in the repository? |
| 13:48.29 | peterS | ruiwen: do what apt does, download the Release and Release.gpg files in the same place you normally get the Packages file |
| 13:48.53 | roxy_ | when I try to apply this patch http://rafb.net/paste/results/pBmaq078.html I get an error, the line with author is malformed. |
| 13:48.57 | Ironhand | peterS: the 2nd drive is already in "removed" state (the physical drive is removed), but I want the "raid devices" value to become 1 |
| 13:49.15 | ruiwen | peterS: the Release and Release.gz files contain the hashes for all the packages in the repo? |
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| 13:49.45 | stew | Chandu: the installer cd is probably 150-200mb if you use a daily |
| 13:49.46 | Ironhand | peterS: the reason being, that one I now add a 2nd drive again it seems the system seems to try to read md block devices there and for some odd reason segfaults... |
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| 13:49.54 | RolandU | hi all! If someone is trying to attack my server via an open proxy..... is there any way to find out his real ip-address? |
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| 13:50.07 | peterS | Ironhand: so --grow --force -n1 does not work? |
| 13:50.31 | sid | hmm; I did this.. apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz compiz-gnome; then I added the composite support extension lines to xorg.conf; restarted X; and did compiz --replace; |
| 13:50.36 | sussudio | abrotman: http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/15088592.htm |
| 13:50.49 | sid | And my gnome window borders are gone.. this doesn't look pretty. |
| 13:50.54 | sid | Am I not doing something right? |
| 13:50.55 | stew | ruiwen: the Packages file does not the Release file |
| 13:50.59 | sid | Where is the pretty? |
| 13:51.09 | Ironhand | peterS: correct, I'm told "mdadm: option f not valid in grow mode" |
| 13:51.11 | lunitik_ | sid: Compiz is running? |
| 13:51.14 | ruiwen | stew: i see.. thanks |
| 13:51.16 | sid | lunitik_: yes |
| 13:51.29 | sid | lunitik_: I'm in irssi with compiz; it doesn't look any more pretty. |
| 13:51.41 | peterS | Ironhand: but without -f it does not want to do that? |
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| 13:51.43 | broadcaster | hmmm... how can i downgrade a package with apt-get or dselect? i have to install the older python-twisted-package, as my apt-proxy stoped working. ( http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/116332 ) i have no clue how to do that... |
| 13:51.54 | abrotman | sussudio: weird .. how do you find these things? |
| 13:51.57 | Chandu | stew:I dont want the whole cd image size , I need only the initrd, runtime filesystem img size . ... Hope I may get that If I download from etch beta2 and check it in that iso |
| 13:51.58 | Ironhand | peterS: yes, without --force it tells me to use --force... |
| 13:52.05 | peterS | that's ... interesting |
| 13:52.17 | lunitik_ | sid: I've heard bad things about xgl ... although SLED 10 has a tool to configure it... |
| 13:52.50 | sid | lunitik_: There is nothing "bad"; I can restart X and everything will be just like it was. Or if I really want to rid myself of it; I can just remove the packages. |
| 13:52.57 | lunitik_ | sid: better off trying out Xorg 7.1 and AIGLX or whatever |
| 13:53.06 | sid | I wouldn't call it "bad"; I would call it less pretty then I expected. |
| 13:53.18 | sussudio | abrotman: fark |
| 13:53.19 | roxy_ | is there any other prog than patch to patch a file ? |
| 13:53.19 | sid | eh; xorg 7.1 sounds scary |
| 13:53.29 | Ironhand | peterS: yes, it seems like a bug to me... doesn't help me much right now though... |
| 13:53.30 | sid | I survived xorg 7.0 on sid; I don't want to push my luck. |
| 13:53.32 | abrotman | sussudio: must you curse at me? |
| 13:53.33 | peterS | Ironhand: looking at the source, it appears to me that --grow --force is supported. what version of mdadm have you got? |
| 13:53.39 | sid | I had no problems with xorg 7.0 at all. |
| 13:53.40 | sussudio | abrotman: .com |
| 13:53.43 | lunitik_ | sid: I heard xgl is a bad hack... and aiglx is a far better implementation |
| 13:53.43 | abrotman | hehe :) |
| 13:53.47 | peterS | Ironhand: I'm inspecting version 1.12.0 |
| 13:54.03 | sid | I'll wait for gravity to hold my hand and setup everything for me on sid. Like he does for everyone who installs xorg on sid. |
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| 13:54.32 | lunitik_ | sid: why does 7.1 seem scary? |
| 13:54.45 | sid | lunitik_: Because there are no packages? |
| 13:55.03 | sid | I have to install 100 megs in dev packages; and compile from source. |
| 13:55.03 | liable | sid: are you using ubuntu xgl packages? |
| 13:55.08 | Ironhand | peterS: mdadm - v1.9.0 - 04 February 2005 |
| 13:55.10 | sid | liable: yes |
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| 13:55.19 | lunitik_ | sid: so wait... and try AIGLX when 7.1 hits sid |
| 13:55.20 | liable | haha |
| 13:55.24 | stew | sid: go to #ubuntu :P |
| 13:55.33 | sid | psh; i'm not an ubuntu user. |
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| 13:55.44 | liable | well, you kinda are now :P |
| 13:55.57 | peterS | Ironhand: indeed that's a difference between 1.9.0 and 1.12.0 in the source. which explains much. |
| 13:56.01 | sid | I just grabbed compiz debs from some ubuntu repository. they installed in 2 seconds; and gnome broke in 1 second |
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| 13:56.31 | liable | i am actually trying to get aiglx and compiz compiled myself right now.. |
| 13:56.39 | sid | o well; my half ass attemp at xgl is boring. This wasn't fun. |
| 13:56.40 | liable | its a bit of a pain in the ass.. |
| 13:57.27 | peterS | shiny things tendencies defeated in "it's too hard" shocker |
| 13:57.51 | stew | sid: no matter what goofy window manager you are trying out, you should never abandon irssi and screen! :) |
| 13:57.55 | lunitik_ | peterS: hahah |
| 13:58.00 | jair | guys, if I has been trying to think how I will be able to install another distro on my laptop when I already have windows xp, and debian, and using the grub to boot both systems. I know that I can install FC5 without grub, and then boot it from a cd or floppy but I do not want that, it is a way i can add the FC to the debian boot loader? |
| 13:58.15 | sid | stew: NEVER! |
| 13:58.53 | peterS | jair: don't ask us, ask someone who knows fedora. for debian grub's part, it's a simple matter of adding the fedora kernel and initrd and root filesystem spec to /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:59.09 | {cyborg} | jair: Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a new entry outside the Debian autoconfigured section |
| 13:59.11 | lunitik | jair: yes... it'd be just the same as adding Debian... |
| 13:59.13 | peterS | jair: but whether you can install fedora without it wanting to get all happy on your boot loader, I don't know |
| 13:59.40 | sid | liable: Are you on X7.1? |
| 13:59.55 | lunitik | s/that/though/ |
| 14:00.03 | jair | peterS: that is what I am asking of course (debian side) |
| 14:00.15 | jair | peterS: but thanks sound logic ;) |
| 14:01.13 | liable | sid: i got xorg-7.1 compiled, but compiz is a pain in the ass with the window-decorator thing |
| 14:01.14 | peterS | jair: yeah the problem is updating both debian and fedora, if you install new kernels in fedora you'll need to do something manual to add the new/updated kernel to grub's config over in debianland |
| 14:01.44 | jair | peterS: it should be a matter or edit a text file :P |
| 14:01.53 | abrotman | !info xserver-xorg sid |
| 14:01.54 | peterS | lunitik: probably not much, gravity has his hands full just keeping X going without trying to add new upstream stuff to it |
| 14:02.02 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.22 (sid), Packaged size: 158 kB, Installed size: 576 kB |
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| 14:02.11 | peterS | jair: yeah and also copy a kernel over to debian's /boot partition |
| 14:02.20 | peterS | jair: and the initrd that goes with it, presumably |
| 14:02.33 | jair | but I am trying to remember what is the parameter on the fedora core to add the three lines root= kernel = initrd = |
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| 14:02.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | sorry if this is a common question - are there issues with security.debian.org for sarge? |
| 14:02.59 | abrotman | issues? |
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| 14:03.14 | jair | peterS: what di you mean the kernel and the initrd files needs to be running on debian? |
| 14:03.14 | sid | lunitik: I believe XStrikeForce wants to squash all the bugs in X7.0 (ie x11-common etc) before the go to 7.1 |
| 14:03.18 | sid | But I'm not sure. |
| 14:03.23 | sid | gravity would know if he was here. |
| 14:03.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | " Error reading from server Remote end closed connection" trying to get packages.gz |
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| 14:03.42 | lunitik | peterS: awww... but sid is supposed to break... it'd be fun :D |
| 14:03.48 | abrotman | sid: eh .. i think he's working on getting 7.1 into experimental .. |
| 14:03.54 | jair | I am assuming that the installation I will do will be without install boot loader on the Fedora. |
| 14:04.00 | peterS | jair: you can't have two copies of grub floating around. well you could but that's probably even weirder. |
| 14:04.02 | CyberMad | how to get information of installed package? (like version, etc) |
| 14:04.10 | abrotman | dpkg -l <pkg> |
| 14:04.10 | dpkg | No packages found matching <pkg> |
| 14:04.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | CyberMad, apt-cache policy $package |
| 14:04.16 | jair | then manually i will need to add the kernel parameters in the grub. |
| 14:04.17 | peterS | jair: if you want to be able to boot a fedora kernel, you have to copy that kernel to where debian grub knows where to find it |
| 14:04.20 | abrotman | or apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 14:04.43 | CyberMad | thanks |
| 14:05.07 | lunitik | jair: I heard FC5 is buggy as hell... I'd wait for FC6 if you really want to try a Fedora release |
| 14:05.26 | jair | peterS: you mean this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2006-06-23 11:34 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-3-686 |
| 14:05.29 | jair | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2006-06-22 12:10 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 14:05.40 | lunitik | jair: its fun, a few Fedora regulars have defected to Debian during FC5 release |
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| 14:05.54 | peterS | jair: I mean to the /boot partition itself. the kernel you just mentioned looks like a debian kernel though |
| 14:06.23 | jair | haha yes it is :) |
| 14:06.41 | sid | abrotman: nice |
| 14:06.47 | jair | lunitik: what do you mean that does not work hahaha the FC5 does not work with debian? |
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| 14:07.11 | lunitik | jair: FC5 is just a buggy release |
| 14:07.18 | jair | lunitik: I see |
| 14:07.33 | jair | but FC6 will not be out until september I think |
| 14:07.43 | sid | Every FC release is buggy. FC is on a 6 month release cycle. RHEL is on an 18 month release cycle. Fedora is just a big beta test for RHEL |
| 14:07.45 | abrotman | sid: of course .. yes .. we'd have to ask gravity about his plans .. though i thought he'd outlined them somewhere |
| 14:07.51 | lunitik | October 6th if I recall |
| 14:07.55 | sid | Every Fedora user is a free employee for Redhat to beta test RHEL |
| 14:08.00 | abrotman | eh .. go to #fedora |
| 14:08.06 | sid | !start a distro war |
| 14:08.06 | dpkg | DSL is the nuts! |
| 14:08.47 | jair | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule |
| 14:08.56 | petemc | being the nuts is a good thing, i think |
| 14:09.00 | jair | lunitik: correct |
| 14:09.17 | abrotman | as opposed to 'being nuts' |
| 14:09.18 | lunitik | meh... I was off by 2 days... grrr |
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| 14:09.52 | jair | ok, not a problem guys. I have debian on my pc for that reason is just stable :) |
| 14:10.09 | blondie | lucky |
| 14:10.25 | liable | yay, finally found the package.. |
| 14:11.21 | jair | I was just thinking in try FC because in my company are using RedHat on the company I work and wanted to be familiar with the system. |
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| 14:12.59 | EdsipeR | ih |
| 14:13.00 | EdsipeR | hi |
| 14:13.31 | lunitik | jair: thats fine... you're overthinking dual boot with 2 linux distributions though... |
| 14:13.33 | EdsipeR | why my compiled kernel try to use devfs if my don't need it ? |
| 14:13.36 | eps | I need a graphical benchmarking tool (I need to put the cpu and graphics card under load to test for an instability - I'm using burnK7 to force cpu load) ... any suggestions? |
| 14:13.57 | EdsipeR | I got some no existent devfs errors |
| 14:14.18 | eps | jair just emulate redhat/fedora in qemu or vmware ...stuff dual booting :P |
| 14:14.25 | petemc | EdsipeR: are you using an initrd? |
| 14:15.07 | lunitik | eps: how hard is qemu to get set up etc? |
| 14:15.13 | petemc | piece of piss |
| 14:15.51 | EdsipeR | petemc, I did an initrd image in /boot/... |
| 14:15.58 | lunitik | petemc: how is performance? 640 mb ram here... should be plenty for it, right? |
| 14:16.02 | eps | lunitik first time it is a bit confusing, but if you follow the manual (man qemu) closely for the first few steps it is easier than vmware (you just don't get a pretty gui) |
| 14:16.04 | petemc | lunitik: yeah, plenty |
| 14:16.29 | petemc | EdsipeR: did you configure your bootloader to use it? did you using mkinitrd? if so you might wanna recreate it with update-initramfs |
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| 14:16.48 | petemc | did you *make it* using mkinitrd, i mean |
| 14:16.51 | jair | can I install vmware free? on Linux? |
| 14:17.03 | eps | define free? |
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| 14:17.05 | jair | eps: It is a package for Linux? |
| 14:17.12 | eps | no, it is a commerical application |
| 14:17.14 | sid | lunitik / liable so aiglx is The Future(tm)? |
| 14:17.23 | jair | eps: so I have to buy it right? |
| 14:17.29 | abrotman | jair: ask #vmware |
| 14:17.32 | lunitik | jair: you can install vmware player without paying... but afaik you can't create images etc |
| 14:17.35 | EdsipeR | petemc, I'm using grub, I had added initrd line to the configuration |
| 14:17.46 | eps | jair as the people in vmware for the free versions |
| 14:17.54 | jair | eps: ohh ok |
| 14:17.56 | petemc | EdsipeR: and how did you create it? |
| 14:18.02 | jair | I will se |
| 14:18.03 | jair | see |
| 14:18.04 | lunitik | sid: its looking that way at the moment... although Xgl and AIGLX will both likely get into Xorg tree eventually |
| 14:18.18 | azeem | lunitik: AIGLX is included in xorg-7.1 |
| 14:18.18 | eps | qemu (has a gui called kqemu also) is free (opensource) and installable as a package jair |
| 14:18.25 | jair | but I really wanted to integrate the three systems, on my laptop |
| 14:18.28 | cydork | lunitik: they have made the vmware server free too, so you can create images. |
| 14:18.30 | EdsipeR | petemc, mkinitrd -o/boot/imageinitrd... kernel-version |
| 14:18.31 | lunitik | azeem: I said that about 30 minutes ago |
| 14:18.39 | eps | anyway, I'm going to try and crash this computer, bbs |
| 14:18.40 | lunitik | azeem: you suck at following along :P |
| 14:18.43 | azeem | lunitik: well, you didn't say that one minute ago |
| 14:18.44 | petemc | EdsipeR: right, try using update-initramfs |
| 14:18.44 | jair | eps: I will check that |
| 14:18.51 | jair | eps: thank you very much |
| 14:19.00 | azeem | I'm obviously not reading scrollback |
| 14:19.01 | EdsipeR | petemc, some special arguments ? |
| 14:19.02 | lunitik | cydork: ahh... neat... I didn't know that |
| 14:19.14 | petemc | EdsipeR: ermm, -c -k kernel-version, i think.. |
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| 14:19.41 | EdsipeR | petemc, update-initramfs replaces mkinitrd ? |
| 14:19.47 | EdsipeR | or I have to run it every time ? |
| 14:20.05 | petemc | EdsipeR: i think so yeah, mkinitrd is deprecated |
| 14:20.12 | petemc | just need to run it once |
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| 14:21.11 | roxy_ | what is hte command for "reloading" the module so modprobe foo works (foo is installed) ? |
| 14:21.33 | peterS | roxy_: shouldn't be necessary, if foo is loaded, foo is loaded |
| 14:21.39 | peterS | roxy_: if you must unload it use 'modprobe -r' |
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| 14:22.21 | cydork | jair: there is a Accelerator Kernel Module available for qemu which improves the perfomance it also called as Kqemu |
| 14:22.29 | roxy_ | peterS: badly worded question. foo is in /lib/modules/.../foo.ko but "modprobe foo" answer foo not found |
| 14:22.38 | peterS | roxy_: depmod -a |
| 14:22.40 | jair | cydork: I see I found it :) |
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| 14:23.22 | sid | roxy_: What are you trying to do? |
| 14:23.24 | shining | how can I force my hard drives to be named in a particular order? |
| 14:23.51 | peterS | shining: arrange them on the busses in that order, would be the obvious way |
| 14:24.03 | sid | shining: What name? You mean /dev/hda4 ? |
| 14:24.05 | shining | I tried many distrib and kernel version, and they always came in the same order |
| 14:24.12 | lunitik | shining: why would you want to do that? they are named by their IDE location |
| 14:24.17 | shining | though now with debian, it doesn't anymore |
| 14:24.17 | EdsipeR | petemc, how I got another problem, kernel says: Begin, Waiting fot root file system |
| 14:24.22 | EdsipeR | *now |
| 14:24.24 | roxy_ | peterS: thanks |
| 14:24.33 | stew | shining: what names do they have now? what names do you want them to have? |
| 14:24.34 | shining | it takes the promise controller first, then the intel one |
| 14:24.35 | roxy_ | sid: load a module I just built |
| 14:24.49 | shining | I want intel controller first -> /dev/sda /dev/sdb |
| 14:24.57 | shining | then promise controller -> /dev/sdc |
| 14:25.03 | sid | roxy_: For what? For 3d acceleration? |
| 14:25.06 | stew | shining: which device do you boot from? |
| 14:25.07 | lunitik | shining: hda = primary master; hdb = primary slave; hdc = secondary master; hdd = secondary slave ... |
| 14:25.21 | roxy_ | sid: no, wifi, the r8180 module |
| 14:25.27 | shining | lunitik: it's sata drives, with 2 sata controllers |
| 14:25.35 | the_headacher | hi, I'm using a debian based distro (64studio), but it doesn't come with the right /etc/apt/sources.list. Can anyone give me the correct line for an amd64 based install? |
| 14:25.41 | shining | stew: first hard disk of the intel controller |
| 14:25.43 | lunitik | ahh... substitute h with s |
| 14:25.46 | abrotman | the_headacher: we support debian |
| 14:25.46 | sid | !tell the_headacher based on debian |
| 14:25.51 | abrotman | sid: broken |
| 14:26.03 | sid | the_headacher: We do not support that here. |
| 14:26.10 | shining | stew: I just booted the debian cd in rescue mode, and they came in the order I want |
| 14:26.23 | shining | stew: in the bios, they are in this order as well |
| 14:26.38 | the_headacher | A line from a normal debian will do thanks |
| 14:26.42 | lunitik | the_headacher: either install Debian proper, or figure out how 64Studio supports users |
| 14:26.49 | stew | shining: what kernel do you use? |
| 14:26.53 | EdsipeR | petemc, now says: alert! /dev/hda2 does not exist, dropping to a shell |
| 14:27.03 | shining | stew: 2.6.16 and 2.6.17 debian kernel |
| 14:27.08 | rue_house | the_headacher, apt-spy |
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| 14:28.36 | stew | shining: do you know if you use yaird or initramfs-tools to create the initrd? |
| 14:28.59 | petemc | EdsipeR: are you using sata? switching from a 2.4 to 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:29.11 | shining | no. I thought it was the latter, but I'm not sure |
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| 14:29.18 | rue_house | uname -a |
| 14:29.22 | lunitik | stew: I'm pretty sure initramfs-tools is default |
| 14:29.36 | petemc | it uses whatever is installed |
| 14:29.41 | shining | stew: yes it must be initramfs-tools |
| 14:29.56 | shining | stew: yaird isn't even installed on my laptop, and I did a similar debian install |
| 14:30.02 | lunitik | petemc: I didn't install either, and initramfs-tools is being used here |
| 14:30.11 | shining | stew: so I must be using initramfs-tools on my desktop too |
| 14:30.16 | petemc | well, something else must have pulled it in |
| 14:30.23 | EdsipeR | petemc, my laptop has an eide hard disk, I have installed ubuntu 6.06 and trying to use now the kernel 2.6.17 |
| 14:31.03 | shining | peterS: you think yaird was used for building the initrd? |
| 14:31.08 | stew | shining: you need to configure mkinitramfs to load the module for your intell controller first. hopefully that is as easy as listing the two modules in the order you want them loaded in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules then aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:31.34 | lunitik | petemc: initramfs-tools (>= 0.53) | yaird (>=0.0.12-8) | linux-initramfs-tool |
| 14:31.53 | shining | stew: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 14:31.58 | lunitik | petemc: thats linux-image depends related to ram disk creation |
| 14:31.58 | stew | yes it will prefer initramfs-tools over yaird if you have neither installed when you install the linux-image |
| 14:31.58 | rue_house | 2.4->2.6 isn't fun |
| 14:32.02 | shining | stew: yes, I think that could solve it, thanks a lot |
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| 14:32.34 | lunitik | petemc: so yes, initramfs-tools is default, but either of the other 2 will work if you have them installed at the time |
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| 14:33.13 | petemc | lunitik: mkinitrd often wont work, thats why so many people are having problems |
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| 14:33.49 | lunitik | petemc: maybe file a bug recommending yaird be default? |
| 14:34.20 | stew | shining: you can check the results after you reinstall the linux-image if you want by doing something like mkdir /tmp/foo ; cd /tmp/foo ; zcat /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | cpio -i ; and read the "init" file, and look to see which order the modules are loaded |
| 14:34.30 | petemc | lunitik: update-initramfs works fine, and as you say, it should use it if its there.. |
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| 14:37.11 | wdamn | Hi, which package to install for lspci ?= |
| 14:37.34 | lunitik | wdamn: should be installed by default... I think its in pciutils |
| 14:37.39 | sid | wdamn: You must be root to execute lspci |
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| 14:37.50 | liable | sid: no you dont |
| 14:38.13 | sid | liable: o; I figured since he didn't have it...that he tried to run it as non-root. |
| 14:38.13 | lunitik | sid: its in /usr/bin |
| 14:38.34 | lunitik | wdamn: yeah.... make sure pciutils is installed |
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| 14:39.12 | devicenull | Shortly, I will be replacing my CRT with a new LCD.. the only thing I should have to change is X's config, correct? |
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| 14:39.20 | stew | sid: you don't have to be root to run it |
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| 14:40.37 | lunitik | devicenull: should be all you need, yes... |
| 14:41.00 | lunitik | devicenull: it should work as soon as you plug it in, although some things on screen might be somewhat ugly ... |
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| 14:41.44 | lunitik | (usually fonts seem huge, etc...) |
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| 14:42.57 | liable | gawd, gnome-control-centre is a bloated pos, takes longer to compile than xorg.. |
| 14:43.24 | lunitik | liable: I'd get slapped for asking why you're compiling it, huh? |
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| 14:43.55 | liable | lunitik: for compiz shits |
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| 14:45.49 | lunitik | liable: ouch... heh... you really want wobbly windows huh? :P |
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| 14:46.08 | liable | meh, it still doesnt work.. back to google.. |
| 14:46.38 | lunitik | liable: just try installing SLED 10... swear to god its easier |
| 14:46.42 | liable | lunitik: i wanna try it, yeah. |
| 14:46.52 | liable | lunitik: nah, i wanna do it on debian :P |
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| 14:47.33 | devicenull | okay, slight problem: X runs fine at 640x480 |
| 14:47.45 | devicenull | when I hit ctrl alt +, the desktop goes up a resolution |
| 14:47.52 | devicenull | but the monitor stays at 640x480 |
| 14:48.07 | lunitik | devicenull: haha... so you get a small thinger in the middle? |
| 14:48.23 | devicenull | yea, I end up only seeing a part of the background |
| 14:48.47 | devicenull | its not really :P |
| 14:49.15 | devicenull | also, default gnome is ugly |
| 14:49.17 | lunitik | devicenull: maybe 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ... there are settings for LCD if I recall, although not sure how useful it'll be... worth a try? |
| 14:49.28 | devicenull | er, this isnt even the lcd yet |
| 14:49.35 | lunitik | devicenull: any Gnome is ugly... makes it more usable or something... |
| 14:49.39 | devicenull | ups hasent delivered that yet :P |
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| 14:49.57 | lunitik | devicenull: oh... hmm... kick it? |
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| 14:51.13 | lunitik | devicenull: hmm... when you go to the side's of the monitor with your mouse... does it scroll? |
| 14:51.24 | devicenull | yes |
| 14:51.41 | lunitik | devicenull: ahh... then you set up virtual desktops... |
| 14:52.01 | devicenull | er, ok |
| 14:52.07 | lunitik | devicenull: see if you can turn that off? else search google if you can't figure out where that is set up |
| 14:52.13 | devicenull | is this something related to gnome, or X? |
| 14:52.20 | lunitik | devicenull: X |
| 14:53.01 | lunitik | devicenull: virtual desktops suck... whoever thought of that should have laid off the beer that day |
| 14:53.41 | devicenull | lool |
| 14:53.43 | CyberMad | usbserial.c: PL-2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 (or usb/tts/0 for devfs). What is usb/tts/0 for devfs mean? |
| 14:55.43 | shining | stew: yes, I think it worked |
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| 14:56.02 | shining | stew: it puts the 2 sata drivers in the conf/modules file |
| 14:56.31 | shining | stew: and it seems these custom modules are loaded first by the load_modules sh function |
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| 14:57.13 | devicenull | X's config is /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 14:57.16 | devicenull | correct? |
| 14:57.39 | shining | stew: so thanks, problem solved :) Though I'm not sure I understand why there are loaded in the other order |
| 14:57.48 | shining | devicenull: could be /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 14:58.11 | devicenull | doesnt exist |
| 14:58.18 | shining | devicenull: try grep config /var/log/X*.log |
| 14:58.47 | devicenull | yea |
| 14:58.50 | devicenull | its the one I said |
| 14:59.28 | shining | devicenull: using sarge? |
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| 14:59.51 | devicenull | yes |
| 15:00.07 | devicenull | its actually -4 |
| 15:00.15 | devicenull | and virtual desktops isnt in it |
| 15:00.19 | shining | ha yep |
| 15:00.24 | shining | hmm? |
| 15:00.36 | shining | you need virtual desktops? |
| 15:00.42 | devicenull | I need them disabled |
| 15:00.46 | shining | ha :) |
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| 15:02.16 | lunitik | devicenull: for sarge.... vi /etc/X11/XF86Config ... else vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:02.26 | devicenull | I found the config |
| 15:02.29 | devicenull | no problem |
| 15:02.34 | lunitik | devicenull: should be pretty obvious what you have to edit... else search google like I said |
| 15:02.42 | shining | another thing that changed compared to my previous debian install (I think) or at least other distribs, xauth settings aren't saved |
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| 15:03.10 | devicenull | its not obvious :P |
| 15:03.18 | shining | I want to use a second X session, and I need to allow this with xauth |
| 15:03.32 | shining | but I've to do this every time |
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| 15:06.52 | jetscreamer | gay |
| 15:07.18 | shining | who |
| 15:07.24 | azeem | jetscreamer: hush |
| 15:07.57 | jetscreamer | the disconnect not anybody |
| 15:07.57 | jetscreamer | back at 7:07 cst |
| 15:09.03 | lunitik | idgi |
| 15:09.52 | lunitik | *skip* > Pink Floyd... mmmkay |
| 15:10.05 | blondie | lunitik: dunno, but sounds preferable to rap |
| 15:10.30 | lunitik | blondie: I'll pretend you didn't say that... I'm in the mood for a debate... so count yourself lucky ;) |
| 15:10.41 | blondie | rap is awful |
| 15:11.09 | lunitik | people who judge rap based on mainstream crap played on MTV and in clubs are ignorant |
| 15:11.27 | azeem | rap is also off-topic here |
| 15:11.38 | lunitik | azeem: I warned him :( |
| 15:11.46 | CyberMad | how to mount a usb? |
| 15:11.56 | CyberMad | *an usb device |
| 15:12.05 | lunitik | CyberMad: a usb... what? camera, harddrive? |
| 15:12.11 | lunitik | CyberMad: hints are neat |
| 15:12.16 | stew | CyberMad: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 15:12.27 | jetscreamer | a you ess bee |
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| 15:12.42 | jetscreamer | an you ess bee |
| 15:12.53 | ^osh^ | dpkg -c is the correct way to find out what's in a package isn't it? |
| 15:12.54 | dpkg | drwxr-xr-x root/root 9550 2003-8-14 13:13:51 ./usr/share/is the correct way to find out what's in a package isn't it/pr0n/ariana.gif |
| 15:13.15 | lunitik | ^osh^: umm... dpkg -L package |
| 15:13.57 | stew | ^osh^: yes |
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| 15:14.16 | stew | ^osh^: or dpkg -L if its already installed |
| 15:14.37 | CyberMad | a gsm modem, i just read articles from google, about setting kannel that said i must mount it.. |
| 15:14.38 | CyberMad | :) |
| 15:14.52 | Bobsya | are any of you familiar with backup2l? I'd like to be able to restore a snapshot on a non-original partition |
| 15:14.53 | stew | CyberMad: a modem isn't something you mount |
| 15:15.22 | ^osh^ | stew: Right. Thanks, both of you. It's not installed. And I'm trying to build a package, which sort of builds and creates an packagename_all.deb. However the _all.deb-package doesn't contain all the files that the tar.gz does. I find it annoying. |
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| 15:16.12 | devicenull | as far as I can tell, virtual desktops are disabled.. |
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| 15:16.20 | devicenull | but I can still switch between 4 desktops |
| 15:16.34 | lunitik | devicenull: if your screen scrolls, its not... |
| 15:16.39 | azeem | ^osh^: you made a mistake then |
| 15:16.41 | torch | I can switch between 600 desktops |
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| 15:16.48 | torch | 600 desktops of FURY |
| 15:16.58 | lunitik | torch: Flux crashed here at around 400 :( |
| 15:17.09 | torch | :( |
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| 15:17.54 | lunitik | KDE and Gnome won't let you have more than like 20 |
| 15:17.57 | devicenull | is there a way to see what reesolution I'm at? |
| 15:18.10 | devicenull | nm800 |
| 15:18.11 | devicenull | nm |
| 15:18.30 | ^osh^ | azeem: I did. But is the _all.deb package supposed to be the final version or is that just a step on the way? AFAIK I never wrote anywhere to build a package with the suffix _all in it. |
| 15:18.32 | devicenull | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:18.39 | devicenull | ctrl alt + switched me down instead of up |
| 15:18.52 | azeem | ^osh^: you likely have "Architecture: all" in debian/rules |
| 15:18.57 | azeem | eh, debian/control |
| 15:19.10 | ^osh^ | azeem: I will have a look. Good hint. Thanks. |
| 15:19.16 | stew | ^osh^: you must have "Architecture: all" in the control file |
| 15:20.25 | ^osh^ | azeem: stew: Right you are. So that's where the naming comes from. So if I build a i386-package I just put it there instead. |
| 15:20.38 | devicenull | there we go |
| 15:20.52 | devicenull | now to get rid of gnome |
| 15:20.55 | azeem | ^osh^: put any in |
| 15:20.59 | ^osh^ | azeem: and the _all.deb is in fact the final package. So now I just have to figure out why there aren't enough files in there. |
| 15:21.10 | azeem | right |
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| 15:21.30 | azeem | probably you didn't get them all installed into debian/<package> |
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| 15:22.13 | ^osh^ | azeem: and the debian/<package> is something that's created in a fakeroot when I do a pbuild? |
| 15:22.28 | azeem | in a fakeroot? |
| 15:22.37 | weissi | how many fps do you get when playing ppracer on full details 800x600? |
| 15:22.40 | azeem | fakeroot is a program, not a location |
| 15:22.41 | stew | ^osh^: i think you are confising fakeroot with chroot |
| 15:22.54 | azeem | and anyway, it has nothing to do with chroots or pbuilds |
| 15:23.16 | azeem | ^osh^: in the last step, the .deb is assembled from ./debian/<package> |
| 15:24.02 | ^osh^ | azeem: in the manual I'm reading I'm asked to create a fakeroot with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -S -rfakeroot |
| 15:24.09 | devicenull | :/ |
| 15:24.19 | devicenull | those are some weird reasons to move to antother irc network |
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| 15:24.24 | azeem | ^osh^: no, it runs fakeroot if you'd need root rights |
| 15:24.35 | stew | ^osh^: "creating a fakeroot" is non-sensical. man fakeroot |
| 15:24.46 | azeem | ^osh^: if the manual literally says "create a fakeroot", it is incorret |
| 15:25.22 | devicenull | How do I switch windows managers? |
| 15:25.26 | devicenull | I should read the docs. |
| 15:25.27 | devicenull | nm |
| 15:25.29 | lunitik | devicenull: talking about irc.debian.org being directed at oftc? is because they are both part of the same umbrella foundation |
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| 15:25.37 | ^osh^ | azeem: right. it "fakes" root-privs. hence the name I'd assume. :-) |
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| 15:26.08 | stew | ^osh^: yeah, it makes it possibly, for instance, for a user to be able to create a .tar.gz that has root owned files in it |
| 15:26.15 | stew | ^possibly^possible |
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| 15:26.34 | devicenull | lunitik, yea, but I dont see a reason fore a new network |
| 15:26.35 | ^osh^ | stew: right. thanks. |
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| 15:26.55 | ^osh^ | azeem: and thanks to you too. Now I have to go take care of my son. |
| 15:27.26 | lunitik | devicenull: its not a new network... just a change in where irc.debian.org points... |
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| 15:27.40 | lunitik | devicenull: OFTC has been around for a while... just no one really uses it |
| 15:28.00 | petemc | i wouldnt say that... |
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| 15:28.51 | lunitik | devicenull: not a huge deal... just use irc.freenode.net instead of irc.debian.org ... done |
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| 15:29.20 | lunitik | petemc: its one of the more dead networks I've been on... right up there with things like spikenet |
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| 15:29.43 | lunitik | and overnet... that place is pretty dead too |
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| 15:31.08 | yang | on which channel is a mp3 players support for linux? |
| 15:31.32 | azeem | yang: this one, probably |
| 15:31.40 | azeem | yang: if you mean debian, and not linux in general |
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| 15:31.51 | infernix | yang: i think google will be a better way than any irc channel. probably no specific channels exist for that |
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| 15:32.39 | omry | I am trying to setup my locale using localeconf, and when I run locale afterwards I get several errors like : locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 15:32.48 | yang | i have one sort of unknown mp3 player device, i wonder how can i get music on it with linux |
| 15:33.00 | infernix | omry: not sure, but maybe use dpkg-reconfigure locales instead of localeconf |
| 15:33.08 | Fox | yang: using Usb Mass Storage ? |
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| 15:33.24 | omry | infernix, trying. |
| 15:33.25 | omry | thanks. |
| 15:33.40 | yang | Fox: which program do i use? |
| 15:33.52 | infernix | yang: lsusb (apt-get install usbtools if you dont have it) and start googling on the info you get from that |
| 15:34.01 | Fox | yang: nothing, plug your mp3 player and format it :) |
| 15:35.02 | omry | infernix, seem to help, thanks. |
| 15:35.11 | yang | infernix: there is no usbtools package in etch |
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| 15:35.44 | yang | infernix: well lsusb shows something up |
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| 15:36.12 | yassinework | how can i set the gateway of my computer please ? i have set that in the /etc/network/interfaces but its not been reconized |
| 15:36.52 | omry | infernix, or maybe not. I still get them errors after restarting X. although on a terminal it seems okay. |
| 15:36.52 | petemc | yassinework: setting it in /etc/network/interfaces would be the "proper" way to do it |
| 15:36.56 | infernix | yang: you can try -v for more info iirc; use the data you gather with google and see if others have found a solution. if your mp3 player doesnt behave like an usb storage device you'll need to figure out how it works. |
| 15:37.24 | yang | infernix: ok it lists this - Bus 001 Device 002: ID 10d6:1100 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd MPMan MP-Ki 128 MP3 Player/Recorder |
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| 15:37.40 | infernix | yang: so google on "mpman mp-ki" linux |
| 15:37.42 | yassinework | petemc, after /etc/init.d/networking restart its not working |
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| 15:37.59 | bulio| | question |
| 15:38.05 | petemc | yassinework: you can ping other addresses on the lan? |
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| 15:38.18 | bulio| | I have one ethernet jack here at the office, one laptop, and my Debian test server |
| 15:38.24 | yassinework | petemc, only ips but not hostnames |
| 15:38.27 | bulio| | The debian box has 2 ethernet cards |
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| 15:38.40 | yassinework | and when trying to ping the dns server i get network unreachable |
| 15:38.42 | infernix | yassinework: put your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin |
| 15:38.47 | bulio| | how would I set it up so I can plug the laptop into the ethernet card, so both PCs could connect |
| 15:38.48 | infernix | and paste url here |
| 15:38.51 | yassinework | okay one sec |
| 15:39.31 | infernix | bulio|: you can go two ways; either 1) bridge the network cards or 2) set up ip forwarding with NAT |
| 15:40.02 | peterS | !seen JeffH |
| 15:40.02 | dpkg | jeffh <n=jeff@c-67-177-240-61.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 14d 10h 8s ago, saying: 'OFX is an open format.. www.ofx.org'. |
| 15:40.29 | bulio| | infernix: which is easier? |
| 15:40.33 | peterS | if anyone sees JeffH they should notify him that gnucash 2.0.0, recently released, claims to support OFX |
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| 15:40.40 | bulio| | infernix: This is only temporary btw |
| 15:40.56 | bulio| | I only need to do this today |
| 15:41.22 | peterS | if I remember correctly, that was the main reason he needed Quicken |
| 15:41.36 | infernix | bulio|: good question :) from a technical perspective bridging should be easier in use but if its harder to setup than NAT depends on what you know. |
| 15:41.54 | bulio| | not sure if it is worth it then |
| 15:41.59 | bulio| | because I only need it today |
| 15:43.06 | petemc | bulio|: the server has 2 nics? |
| 15:43.12 | bulio| | yes |
| 15:43.18 | petemc | apt-get install ipmasq |
| 15:43.23 | bulio| | then what? |
| 15:43.40 | petemc | hit enter a few times, if you have everything you need in your kernel, you're away |
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| 15:43.50 | petemc | if you're using a debian kernel, you should have... |
| 15:43.52 | bulio| | and It'll work fine? |
| 15:43.56 | bulio| | 2,4,x on sarge |
| 15:44.06 | infernix | man, i should stop doing everything manually ;) |
| 15:44.07 | bulio| | server install |
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| 15:44.22 | Ananda | hello |
| 15:44.35 | Ananda | does anyone use xzoom? |
| 15:44.53 | Ananda | im trying to get the source with no luck |
| 15:44.54 | bulio| | petemc: and I can easily remove this at the end of the day? |
| 15:45.15 | petemc | bulio|: sure |
| 15:45.27 | bulio| | thanks |
| 15:45.43 | petemc | you can even set up nat with /sbin/ip |
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| 15:50.52 | yassinework | infernix, http://rafb.net/paste/results/BdaH2c58.html |
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| 15:51.38 | cusco | I forgot, how is it that you see the source code of a webpage in lynx |
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| 15:51.42 | Maquiavelo | Hi guys, I'm getting this weird error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libglitz1_0.5.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 15:51.43 | Maquiavelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.43 | Maquiavelo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.48 | petemc | yassinework: can you ping the gateway? |
| 15:52.04 | infernix | Maquiavelo: which debian version? |
| 15:52.07 | Maquiavelo | Etch |
| 15:52.25 | infernix | yassinework: you have a gateway outside of your netmask scope. |
| 15:52.33 | petemc | infernix: he does? |
| 15:52.37 | yassinework | petemc, at the mom yes since i have got an ip from a dhcp |
| 15:52.38 | infernix | hm. actually no. |
| 15:52.45 | cusco | I forgot, how is it that you see the source code of a webpage in lynx |
| 15:53.09 | wakejagr | cusco: \ |
| 15:53.09 | Maquiavelo | infernix: Any idea? |
| 15:53.24 | petemc | yassinework: and the settings you have from the dhcp are similar to what you're trying to set statically? |
| 15:53.32 | wakejagr | cusco: that toggles source rendering |
| 15:53.39 | infernix | yassinework: check with ifconfig that the active netmask is indeed 255.255.0.0; check with route -n if there is indeed no default gateway; add it with: route add default gw 10.170.100.10 |
| 15:53.39 | cusco | wakejagr: are you sure? |
| 15:53.45 | devicenull | how do I change the window manager from gnome to fluxbox? |
| 15:54.01 | cusco | ok |
| 15:54.09 | devicenull | I tried with /usr/sbin/update-altneratives |
| 15:54.11 | yassinework | petemc, inet addr:10.170.200.73 Bcast:10.170.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 |
| 15:54.14 | wakejagr | cusco: works here (though you can check the keystroke info inside lynx) |
| 15:54.26 | petemc | yassinework: and the gateway? |
| 15:54.41 | yassinework | how can i find that out ? |
| 15:54.44 | infernix | Maquiavelo: might be a dependancy issue, but strange for etch. you're sure glitz is a package from etch as well? |
| 15:54.45 | petemc | netstat -rn |
| 15:54.59 | ktwilight | is there a frontend for dvd/cd burning other than gtoaster and arson? |
| 15:55.17 | petemc | ktwilight: k3b |
| 15:55.28 | Maquiavelo | Infernix Indeed, I used Etch beta 2 installer, and I only have Etch in the sources.list |
| 15:55.31 | Maquiavelo | Have always had |
| 15:55.40 | peterS | ktwilight: apt-cache search cd burn frontend |
| 15:55.44 | lunitik | ktwilight: k3b ... bonfire ... xroast ... a lot |
| 15:55.53 | ktwilight | thanks, will check |
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| 15:56.08 | peterS | lots of questions are easy to answer for yourself if you know how to type 'apt-cache search' |
| 15:56.10 | yassinework | petemc, see pm please |
| 15:56.22 | ktwilight | well, i did do apt-cache search ;) |
| 15:56.25 | lunitik | yassinework: do not message people without permission |
| 15:56.32 | petemc | yassinework: i did, i dont see anything wrong, you might need to speak to whoever runs the gateway, your config seems fine |
| 15:56.37 | ktwilight | i just missed out k3b from that list |
| 15:56.51 | infernix | Maquiavelo: hm, my etch box isnt booting so cant check it out |
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| 15:57.00 | Maquiavelo | infernix: Oh ok |
| 15:57.03 | yassinework | lunitik, thanks for your help |
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| 15:58.05 | lunitik | ktwilight: bonfire is in sid... I don't think its in etch though, and its definitely not in sarge |
| 15:58.26 | lunitik | ktwilight: http://perso.orange.fr/bonfire/ certainly the best gtk based burner though imo :) |
| 15:58.28 | ktwilight | apt-cache search can't find it. but apt-cache show bonfire does have it |
| 15:58.33 | ktwilight | it is in etch |
| 15:58.48 | ktwilight | thanks for the recommendation :) looks very compared to the others |
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| 15:59.45 | ktwilight | very nice and simple. love it. haha |
| 15:59.52 | ktwilight | now i just have to wait till the iso is done :D |
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| 16:04.47 | Frostbite | Anyone know why if I plug a hard disk into a pci SIL3112 sata raid card and boot a 2.6 kernel, it sits after loading bzImage yet with 2.4 it boots fine? |
| 16:05.00 | abrotman | sil sucks? |
| 16:05.21 | abrotman | Frostbite: your bootloader is likely looking in the wrong place .. hda vs sda etc |
| 16:05.25 | Frostbite | abrotman: yes, but it's what I have :) |
| 16:05.39 | Frostbite | abrotman: I'm talking about the netinstall cdrom ... linux vs linux26 |
| 16:05.40 | sng | abrotman: I'm still not as cute as Natalie Portman! |
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| 16:06.15 | abrotman | sng: you look better with a shaved head? |
| 16:06.28 | abrotman | Frostbite: oh .. nfc then .. that's weird |
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| 16:06.53 | rjent | greetings |
| 16:07.15 | Frostbite | abrotman: the CernOS or whatever it's called (RHEL ripoff)'s boot cd did it too when I tried to see if it was just debian. |
| 16:07.22 | roxy_ | I want to install a new kernel module from source. Should I first unload and delete the file in /lib/mod....ko or just "make install" and modprobe will be ok ? |
| 16:07.28 | rjent | I have a toshiba satellite notebook and curious if stock debian will operate as well as ubuntu does? |
| 16:07.30 | sng | abrotman: No. Massive scars. ... |
| 16:07.40 | abrotman | sng: eh .. ok |
| 16:07.47 | sng | Hehe. |
| 16:07.49 | abrotman | !sarge uni |
| 16:07.50 | dpkg | sarge unofficial netinstallers see <sarge 2.6.12> <sarge 2.6.14> and/or <sarge 2.6.15>, or use at your own risk and not officially a sarge installation. The 2.6.15 may use yaird, beware. or see <custom netinst>, or see <sarge 2.6.16> also |
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| 16:08.50 | Frostbite | abrotman: I'm using the one from cdimage.debian.org |
| 16:10.01 | Frostbite | Does anyone know how md differs in 2.6? |
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| 16:19.33 | yassinework | petemc, when i try ifup eth0 i gets this : Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth0/inet. Failed to bring up eth0. |
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| 16:20.12 | opee2 | does anyone have expierence with wirless install on debian? |
| 16:20.41 | opee2 | soory meant installing a wireless adapter on debian? |
| 16:21.19 | lunitik | opee2: look into ndiswrapper |
| 16:21.39 | opee2 | ok i have installed ndiswrapper |
| 16:22.05 | lunitik | opee2: read its docs... (/usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper/) |
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| 16:23.17 | lunitik | !tell opee2 about ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 16:23.49 | opee2 | humm thanks lunatik |
| 16:24.18 | lunitik | opee2: you probably should look into why you're doing that... but you can do that once you get it set up :P |
| 16:24.28 | opee2 | i am trying to do ndiswrapper -d and i am not sure what to use for the devid? |
| 16:24.42 | lunitik | opee2: do what dpkg just told you |
| 16:24.48 | opee2 | ok |
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| 16:25.32 | devicenull | I love apt. |
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| 16:26.50 | damog | authoritative for* |
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| 16:28.39 | opee2 | lunatik: it came back and said bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use |
| 16:29.29 | opee2 | getting headers now |
| 16:29.36 | lunitik | opee2: good thinking |
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| 16:47.41 | Razva | how can I reset my firewall's rules but WITHOUT closing myself out :)) |
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| 16:47.51 | Razva | like delete all the rules |
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| 16:49.11 | jabka | how can i install lexmark printer ? .. |
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| 16:49.11 | seemawn | so |
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| 16:49.45 | lunitik | grrrrrr |
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| 16:49.55 | lunitik | Freenode needs to stop acting up :( |
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| 16:50.07 | Knorrie | what happened? |
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| 16:50.25 | lunitik | Knorrie: net split probably |
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| 16:50.30 | Knorrie | ah |
| 16:50.40 | gr33npho3nix | hi can anybody point me at docs to create a debian install cd that starts ssh and looks for input via ssh instead of the standard console |
| 16:50.56 | nima | hmm, why can wiktionary have article names that start with a lower case letter, but not wikipedia? |
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| 16:51.42 | Alam_Debian | jabka, the lexmark printer drivers need CUPS <1.2.1, only on debian sarge |
| 16:52.04 | nima | lunitik, both mediawiki |
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| 16:53.00 | jabka | <Alam_Debian> i have installed but i can't see my ,odel in model type (what i need to choose model) |
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| 16:53.08 | jabka | <Alam_Debian> |
| 16:53.14 | jabka | <Alam_Debian> *model |
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| 16:53.46 | Alam_Debian | ? |
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| 16:54.34 | dpkg | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of dondelelcaro) |
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| 16:55.34 | jabka | <Alam_Debian> in cups there is add printer -> choose model : but the issue is that my model dosn't apper in the list (i own X3330) |
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| 17:03.22 | opee2 | lunatik: you here? |
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| 17:06.19 | opee2 | lunatik: thanks dude the wireless is working |
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| 17:08.43 | blondie | who's in charge of that fucking deb"helper" bot? |
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| 17:08.58 | lunitik | opee2: auto-complete is great (lun[tab key]) ... but thats good to hear though |
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| 17:09.44 | blondie | stew: whose bot is debhelper? |
| 17:10.03 | lunitik | debhelper owner |
| 17:10.08 | lunitik | hmm |
| 17:10.20 | stew | blondie: don |
| 17:10.23 | lunitik | blondie: almost certainly dondel's |
| 17:10.34 | blondie | stew: it needs turning off :( |
| 17:10.48 | blondie | all it does it block people when there's been a netsplit |
| 17:10.51 | blondie | *is |
| 17:10.58 | lunitik | blondie: its doing its job... just... too many people were effected by netsplit |
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| 17:11.07 | blondie | its job being what? |
| 17:11.14 | *** mode/#debian [-lfJ] by RichiH |
| 17:11.16 | blondie | it happens all the time |
| 17:11.25 | lunitik | blondie: its to avoid mass joins to #debian |
| 17:11.26 | RichiH | blondie: guard against join attacks |
| 17:11.27 | devicenull | #debian-overflow is really annoying |
| 17:11.32 | lunitik | thanks RichiH |
| 17:11.43 | blondie | join attacks pffft |
| 17:12.19 | RichiH | of course, it seems it's too late, anyway |
| 17:12.24 | stew | RichiH: i had unset them once, they were just just reset: ServerMode/#debian [+lJ 446 8,3] by irc.freenode.net |
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| 17:13.08 | avlondono | hello, I am looking for a tool to measure the traffic in the system bus. anyone has a suggestion? |
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| 17:13.38 | blondie | and then it's rude and kicks you for being in -overflow too long.... like I asked to be there in the first place |
| 17:13.45 | BlackJudas|TWL | Ok, not really a specific debian problem, but I'm looking for a soultion. A friend of mine and I want to have access to a central server to share documents and files etc. I've thought of portforwarding to an internal machine behind my nat box (via ssh), but he'd have to do the same. Is there anything out there that's like p2p but only for a couple of people? It's not stuff that should be publically available. |
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| 17:14.50 | RichiH | stew: yah, that is when servers rejoin |
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| 17:14.59 | stew | RichiH: oh right |
| 17:15.04 | RichiH | stew: they are set to err on the side of caution and re-set the modes |
| 17:15.36 | RichiH | stew: imagine +k or +i getting lost that way and you know why it was implemented to do that ;) |
| 17:15.49 | RichiH | anyway, i think we can enable it again |
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| 17:16.18 | RichiH | tsk tsk debhelper ;) |
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| 17:16.35 | lunitik | RichiH: can't boot debhelper for a bit? (till channel is around 400 again...) |
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| 17:16.55 | RichiH | let me see if that will break him horribly |
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| 17:17.01 | lunitik | RichiH: else it'll just argue with you for a while |
| 17:17.19 | RichiH | stew: can you try to remember reopping it, too? |
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| 17:18.35 | stew | RichiH: sure |
| 17:18.51 | RichiH | ta |
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| 17:19.53 | Thijs | hello all. Is there anyone who has some experience clustering servers? I would like to discuss some networking problems I'm running into while writing this plan for migrating a set of standalone servers to a clustered situation using Xen for virtualisation |
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| 17:21.06 | FallenHitokiri | Thijs: not much experience but we tried it just for fun a few months ago - what's the problem? |
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| 17:21.54 | Maquiavelo | Hi guys, I'm using Debian Etch that I installed with the Beta 2 installer, I have Kernel 2.6.17.6 installed also, with the nvidia driver. I'm trying to setup xgl, but when I try to aptitude install libglitz1 apt/aptitude dies with the following error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libglitz1_0.5.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 17:21.54 | Maquiavelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.02 | Maquiavelo | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 17:22.03 | apt-abhi | hi there ? |
| 17:22.03 | apt-abhi | i need debian unstable (DVD iso) latest, from where can i download it ? |
| 17:22.27 | Thijs | FallenHitokiri: Well, I'm thinking ahead in the future, when this cluster might span multiple racks, and even multiple datacenters |
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| 17:22.35 | lunitik | Maquiavelo: usually, you can fix that via manual fetching and installing... annoying but only work around I know of... |
| 17:22.53 | FallenHitokiri | Thijs: sorry, that's a whole other setup than we used ;) |
| 17:22.53 | Maquiavelo | How would that work? wget the deb from the repository and then dkpg -i ? |
| 17:23.02 | Maquiavelo | dpkg |
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| 17:23.06 | Thijs | FallenHitokiri: thats ok. Thanks! |
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| 17:23.09 | Thijs | anyone else? |
| 17:23.11 | Thijs | :) |
| 17:23.12 | lunitik | Maquiavelo: sure |
| 17:23.52 | lunitik | Maquiavelo: dpkg -i --force-overwrite probably actually... |
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| 17:24.45 | lunitik | Maquiavelo: not sure, but apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install foo might work also |
| 17:25.11 | Maquiavelo | Ok looks like it worked. |
| 17:25.13 | Maquiavelo | "looks" |
| 17:25.21 | Maquiavelo | Unpacking libglitz1 (from libglitz1_0.5.6-1_i386.deb) ... |
| 17:25.21 | Maquiavelo | dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: |
| 17:25.21 | Maquiavelo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:25.45 | Maquiavelo | Setting up libglitz1 (0.5.6-1) .., does that mean it worked? |
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| 17:26.13 | blondie | FFS |
| 17:26.19 | lunitik | Maquiavelo: dpkg -l libglitz1 <-- if its listed, it worked |
| 17:26.30 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 17:26.34 | *** mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by dondelelcaro |
| 17:26.35 | Maquiavelo | Yea looks like, thank you. |
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| 17:26.41 | blondie | dondelelcaro: don't do that! :( |
| 17:26.47 | Maquiavelo | Going to check xgl now |
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| 17:26.53 | dondelelcaro | blondie: the bot is smart enough to adjust the limits |
| 17:27.09 | blondie | dondelelcaro: it's not... it stops people rejoining after netsplits. |
| 17:27.15 | dondelelcaro | blondie: that's the +J |
| 17:27.23 | blondie | ? |
| 17:27.37 | blondie | unless it's been changed in the past 10 minutes, it's not smart enough |
| 17:27.59 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: #debian-overflow is getting everyone after netsplit ... was decided that debhelper would be deoped until channel is more back to normal |
| 17:28.25 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: again, that's the +J that does that. |
| 17:28.36 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: if more than 3 people join in 24 seconds, everyone else goes to #debian-overflow |
| 17:28.42 | dondelelcaro | hitting the limit takes a bit more |
| 17:28.43 | blondie | well turn that off |
| 17:29.12 | dondelelcaro | blondie: we aren't hitting it now |
| 17:29.31 | blondie | there was a netsplit 3 minutes ago... I bet it breaks again |
| 17:29.36 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: as blondie said, and as the channel nick number shows, its obviously not having the desired effect... although likely if they were active, they'd have tried /j #debian by now |
| 17:29.42 | zephyrus_ | anyone have some nice ipfw filters? |
| 17:29.56 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 17:29.56 | dpkg | it has been said that iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 17:30.09 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: I'm in #debian-overflow right now... I do keep track of these things when I'm actually here... |
| 17:30.24 | zephyrus_ | i know that, i'm just asking if someone wants to share they're scripts; p |
| 17:30.45 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: I'll leave it in your capable hands then... just annoyed several people earlier, so ops tried to fix it... |
| 17:31.16 | dondelelcaro | RichiH did, yes... I saw, and I put it back since things should be close to normal now. |
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| 17:32.17 | lunitik | Temporary solutions are rarely the best solution :) |
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| 17:32.33 | blondie | remove the limit and stupid bot |
| 17:32.54 | stew | blondie: no, the bot is useful. it protects us from join floods and paste floods |
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| 17:33.28 | pjz | can I run 32-bit userspace with a 64-bit kernel? |
| 17:33.34 | dondelelcaro | pjz: yes |
| 17:33.48 | blondie | stew: well improve it... if it detects a netsplit, it should turn that function off for a while |
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| 17:34.11 | dondelelcaro | blondie: if the netsplit is shortlived, it won't hit the +l, because it doesn't update that rapidly |
| 17:34.24 | lunitik | blondie: it was just unfortunate that debhelper changed limit right after a split is all... usually it doesn't matter |
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| 17:34.37 | blondie | lunitik: it happened a few days ago too. |
| 17:34.43 | dondelelcaro | blondie: netsplits are also supposed to use different joins so they don't trigger +J; however, that wasn't a normal netsplit. The entire server went down |
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| 17:34.59 | devicenull | er, I cant find the docs that tell me how to set up my sound card |
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| 17:35.28 | faber3 | hi everybody |
| 17:35.33 | dondelelcaro | devicenull: in most cases, it'll just work. if it's not, lscpi, figure out what type of soundcard you've got and make sure the right module is loaded. (Check google to see what it is) |
| 17:35.46 | faber3 | how can i see which driver is responsible for eth2 ? |
| 17:35.52 | lunitik | devicenull: aptitude install alsa-utils probably... (installs alsa-base, which should configure things for you via debconf..) |
| 17:36.14 | devicenull | k, thx |
| 17:36.19 | Eulex | faber3, check dmesg. most drivers print what network device they get assigned to when they are loaded. |
| 17:37.06 | faber3 | eth2: D-Link DFE-550TX FAST Ethernet Adapter at 00017000, 00:05:5d:1a:58:d2, IRQ 19. |
| 17:37.06 | faber3 | eth2: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7809 advertising 01e1. |
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| 17:37.44 | lunitik | faber3: cool... why did you paste that here? you got your answer |
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| 17:39.24 | faber3 | lunitik: where? |
| 17:39.37 | lunitik | faber3: D-Link DFE-550TX FAST Ethernet Adapter |
| 17:39.43 | yang | I am looking for a MP3 device uploader/downloader with posibility of encoding .mp3 files to a lower bitrate |
| 17:40.07 | faber3 | lunitik: thats my card. but which driver "lsmod" is responsible? |
| 17:40.42 | cusco | faber3: lspci should shou you |
| 17:41.12 | cusco | thforget it |
| 17:41.12 | cusco | lol |
| 17:41.50 | faber3 | lspci shows: 01:00.3 PIC: Intel Corporation 6700PXH I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller B (rev 09) |
| 17:42.04 | faber3 | ERR: 03:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet (rev 14) |
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| 17:42.26 | lunitik | faber3: lsmod | grep sundance ? |
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| 17:42.57 | devicenull | installind alsa didnt do much |
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| 17:43.00 | devicenull | I have a /dev/dsp |
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| 17:43.17 | lunitik | devicenull: onboard and card? |
| 17:43.20 | devicenull | but I cant seem to play anything |
| 17:43.22 | devicenull | card.. |
| 17:43.30 | devicenull | let me find out which one |
| 17:44.14 | faber3 | sundance 22500 0 |
| 17:44.14 | faber3 | mii 5280 1 sundance |
| 17:44.18 | faber3 | lunitik: ok |
| 17:44.19 | syntaxx | whats the software to install to have htpasswd? |
| 17:44.33 | lunitik | devicenull: you can configure which device is default... or simply blacklist onboard... or search google for driver and modprobe that? |
| 17:44.43 | devicenull | SB audigy2 zs |
| 17:44.50 | faber3 | lunitik: but the "sundance" was a guess... |
| 17:44.50 | lunitik | faber3: thats the module... (probably the mii one...) |
| 17:44.53 | devicenull | ok |
| 17:44.58 | dondelelcaro | syntaxx: apache2-utils or apache-common |
| 17:45.10 | devicenull | how do I change which is the default device? |
| 17:45.13 | lunitik | faber3: no.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=293 <-- statement of 'sundance.o' |
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| 17:45.23 | faber3 | well, now i need to know how i can prevent these driver(s) from loading... i want to use the card from inside a xen guest |
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| 17:45.48 | syntaxx | dondelelcaro, thanks |
| 17:45.56 | lunitik | devicenull: I can message you syntax... else search google for examples of /etc/asound.conf |
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| 17:46.05 | devicenull | got it |
| 17:46.12 | devicenull | echo test > /dev/dsp gives me a clicking sound |
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| 17:47.16 | opee2 | lunatik: ok got the wireless installed... what do you suggest for the front end to manage the connection? |
| 17:47.55 | lunitik | opee2: using Gnome? best option is NetworkManager-gnome |
| 17:48.31 | lunitik | knetworkmanager is in sid also... |
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| 17:49.03 | faber3 | whats the name of the program to configure the modules loaded in debian? |
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| 17:49.38 | lunitik | faber3: you probably want to browse around /etc/modprobe.d |
| 17:49.39 | opee2 | lunatik: that is the package name? |
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| 17:49.52 | mhall | dpkg, ant? |
| 17:49.52 | dpkg | *STOMPSTOMPSTOMPSTOMP!!*, or a make replacement in, and for, java, or at http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/, or it uses XML for its buildfile |
| 17:50.09 | mhall | so, ant is not in debian then? |
| 17:50.20 | faber3 | lunitik: the problem is, it seems to auto-detect the card and loads the driver. |
| 17:50.26 | lunitik | opee2: ahh... network-manager-gnome |
| 17:50.27 | mhall | oops, yes it is |
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| 17:50.44 | lunitik | uhh... faber3 ^ |
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| 17:51.48 | abrotman | mhall: that wouldn't tell you about the package |
| 17:51.59 | abrotman | !info ant sarge |
| 17:52.04 | dpkg | ant: (Java based build tool like make), section contrib/devel, is optional. Version: 1.6.2-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 4751 kB, Installed size: 7848 kB |
| 17:52.06 | lunitik | faber3: if you don't want something loaded... follow syntax in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (if you're using udev... either way, add "blacklist module" to the file ) |
| 17:52.10 | opee2 | lunatik: where do i get it? tried apt-get and cant find it |
| 17:52.34 | lunitik | faber3: if you're not using Udev, that file won't be there by default... just create it... it'd still work |
| 17:53.05 | lunitik | opee2: my nickname is "lunitik" NOT "lunatik" ... use auto-complete!!! |
| 17:53.15 | blondie | lunatic! |
| 17:53.23 | lunitik | blondie: grrr |
| 17:53.40 | opee2 | sorry bout that |
| 17:53.40 | faber3 | lunitik: i am using a very recent kernel, so i guess i am using udev. "blacklist" is there. i will put "mii" and "sundance" in it ? |
| 17:53.48 | abrotman | you do use kde |
| 17:53.59 | blondie | lol |
| 17:54.02 | lunitik | faber3: just mii ... mii is loading sundance looks like |
| 17:54.23 | blondie | is mii a nintendo product? |
| 17:54.38 | faber3 | blondie: sounds like it ;-) |
| 17:54.51 | lunitik | blondie: no idea... its a nic module though... |
| 17:55.39 | lunitik | Lunitik Muzik by the Luniz... good CD if anyone wants to check it out... |
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| 17:59.23 | mhall | blondie: not mii, it's wii |
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| 17:59.35 | mhall | blondie: what brilliant marketing _that_ was |
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| 18:00.00 | cds | In korganizer, it seems to use UTF+1 as the timezone, yet reminds me in the UTF timezone. Anyone know how to fix that? |
| 18:00.12 | blondie | mhall: I know :P |
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| 18:00.38 | mhall | blondie: i did appreciate your joke but couldn't think of a response that was very funny to show my appreciation |
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| 18:01.01 | faber3 | tahnks everybody |
| 18:01.02 | faber3 | bye |
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| 18:02.17 | lunitik | cds: you probably mean UTC... but yeah... 'dpkg-reconfigure tzconfig' and set it to something other than UTC |
| 18:02.25 | mhall | C:\box |
| 18:02.35 | mhall | C:\java |
| 18:02.39 | mhall | C:\box\crawl |
| 18:02.41 | cds | Oops, I suck :) |
| 18:02.50 | cds | Ok, will check that, thanks. |
| 18:02.53 | lunitik | Universal Time Clock |
| 18:03.06 | lunitik | Its easier to remember acronyms when you know what they mean :) |
| 18:03.29 | cds | Heh, I shoulda thought about what they mean :p |
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| 18:04.53 | cds | lunitik: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tzconfig is not installed |
| 18:05.06 | lunitik | cds: run as root |
| 18:05.15 | lunitik | cds: uhh... nm |
| 18:05.22 | cds | I used it as sudo - will that make a difference? |
| 18:05.23 | lunitik | cds: aptitude install tzconfig |
| 18:05.38 | lunitik | cds: why you remove tzconfig? |
| 18:05.41 | cds | I did apt-get install tzconfig, not found. |
| 18:05.45 | cds | I didn't :) |
| 18:05.57 | lunitik | cds: you're not using Debian then |
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| 18:06.08 | cds | Wanna bet? :p |
| 18:06.10 | lunitik | cds: the install process uses tzconfig |
| 18:06.32 | lunitik | !info tzconfig sarge |
| 18:06.52 | stew | tzconfig is part of libc |
| 18:06.59 | stew | cds: run tzconfig as root |
| 18:07.06 | cds | Whoa.. what's all these libs being removed? |
| 18:07.16 | cds | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "tzconfig" |
| 18:07.16 | cds | The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: |
| 18:08.11 | syntaxx | im having this error cannot find either the gdbm or the db library what application do i need to install to have that? |
| 18:08.12 | cds | It's set to Europe/London - that's right. |
| 18:08.16 | lunitik | meh... tzconfig comes from libc6... I feel dumb |
| 18:08.30 | cds | The timezone is right in KOrganizer. |
| 18:08.36 | cds | Just it's wrong when reminding me. |
| 18:08.58 | cds | It'll remind me at, say, 19:00 UTC, rather than UTC+1 (my timezone) |
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| 18:09.49 | lunitik | cds: wierd... KOrganizer > Settings > Time & Date ... time zone option? |
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| 18:10.46 | lunitik | s/at/and/ |
| 18:10.54 | lunitik | my fingers have a mind of their own today :/ |
| 18:11.05 | cds | Where's the timezone option? |
| 18:11.35 | cds | The time in that box is right, though. |
| 18:11.52 | lunitik | cds: wierd... KOrganizer > Settings > Configure KOrganizer > Time & Date ... timezone option? |
| 18:12.15 | cds | It's Europe/London. |
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| 18:12.32 | lunitik | cds: I don't know... my notificatons are fine... |
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| 18:13.05 | lunitik | cds: London is GMT which is UTC ... which isn't UTC+1 |
| 18:13.41 | cds | No... London is BST which is UTC+1. |
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| 18:14.34 | bulio| | would it be smarter to use debian sarge or debian etch for my server? |
| 18:14.45 | cds | bulio|: Stable. |
| 18:14.49 | lunitik | bulio|: sarge |
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| 18:15.04 | petemc | bulio|: most people dont want servers to break, so sarge is a safer bet |
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| 18:15.21 | bulio| | ok |
| 18:15.30 | lunitik | petemc: where in the world are you? London is UTC correct? |
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| 18:15.59 | cds | Yes. |
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| 18:16.06 | cds | But London isn't GMT. |
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| 18:16.45 | cds | GMT = Grenich Mean Time. Which is the same as UTC. |
| 18:16.50 | lunitik | cds: anyways... try not setting that "no selection"... then it should take system default :/ |
| 18:16.55 | peterS | cds: similar, anyway |
| 18:17.15 | cds | During the winter, London/England follows GMT. |
| 18:17.30 | cds | During the summer, London/England follows BST (British Summer Time) |
| 18:17.37 | blondie | cds: GMT isn't the same as UTC |
| 18:17.38 | peterS | lunitik: London's timezone is the same as UTC when summer time (sometimes known as daylight saving time) isn't in effect |
| 18:17.43 | cds | BST is UTC+1. |
| 18:18.06 | cds | blondie: Well, for the sake of argument it is :) |
| 18:18.08 | lunitik | petemc: I forget about DST... Arizona doesn't use it |
| 18:18.38 | lunitik | cds: set to "no selection" instead of "Europe/London" and see if that is better |
| 18:18.45 | cds | Yeah, testing now. |
| 18:18.50 | bulio| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.24 | cds | bulio|: That's a very vague question. |
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| 18:19.49 | bulio| | cds: Securing apache, php, and mysql |
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| 18:19.53 | bulio| | on debian sarge |
| 18:20.26 | xsappyx | bulio: /etc/init.d/apache stop ; /etc/init.d/mysql stop ? :p |
| 18:20.30 | bulio| | :D |
| 18:20.44 | abrotman | !securing debian |
| 18:20.44 | dpkg | well, securing debian is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 18:20.49 | blondie | bulio|: secure ssh too please |
| 18:21.31 | cds | lunitik: That seems to have fixed it. |
| 18:21.39 | cds | lunitik: Very odd. Thanks. |
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| 18:27.30 | lopa | What exactly is the GECOS field in the ubuntu (or debian) /etc/passwd? |
| 18:27.56 | bulio| | blondie: what do you mean? |
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| 18:30.25 | blondie | bulio|: by default on debian, root can login by ssh, which is bad |
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| 18:31.02 | guzu | hello all |
| 18:31.26 | guzu | can i install debian31 on a system with only 8 megs of ram? |
| 18:31.51 | petemc | not easily, even woody needed 12 megs |
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| 18:32.23 | stew | guzu: no, you need 24-32 minimun to run the debian 3.1 installer |
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| 18:32.56 | guzu | petemc, stew yhank you very much |
| 18:33.01 | guzu | thank |
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| 18:33.09 | stew | guzu: after it is installed you could run with less, but for the install, 24 is a must unless you create some kind of custom installer |
| 18:33.40 | stew | guzu: what you can do is install onto the hard drive in some other machine, then move it the memory starved machine |
| 18:34.33 | guzu | stew, a very good idea :) |
| 18:34.48 | guzu | is the kernel optimized for pentium? |
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| 18:36.37 | stew | guzu: no, the default kerenl is not. there are kernels available that are optimized for a pentium pro or better |
| 18:36.53 | stew | guzu: and note that debian 3.1 requires a 486, it won't run on a 386 |
| 18:37.06 | abrotman | eh .. i thought sarge still ran on 386 but etch would not |
| 18:37.28 | vook | i seek guidance. I have two laptops, both with wireless, one without ethernet. I have no router. I'm familiar with console tools (iwconfig, ifconfig, etc...) I just need to create a direct link between these two laptops, but so far haven't had any luck. Any tips? |
| 18:38.19 | lopa | What exactly is the GECOS field in the ubuntu (or debian) /etc/passwd? |
| 18:38.31 | guzu | stew, the test machine is 486sx :) |
| 18:39.10 | stew | abrotman: i thought 2.2 would and 2.4 wouldn't |
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| 18:41.12 | guzu | stew, any way to tell the installer to use the swap partition? |
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| 18:44.31 | stew | guzu: i'm not sure. you could certainly try hitting alt-f2 to a console and try running swapon from there |
| 18:44.58 | guzu | ah, ok |
| 18:45.06 | guzu | stew, thnx |
| 18:45.24 | stew | guzu: though it seems like if it were that easy, it would be in the install guide instead of the install guide saying "you must have 32 megs of ram" |
| 18:46.16 | guzu | i see :) |
| 18:47.18 | abrotman | stew: i can't recall anymore .. |
| 18:47.32 | guzu | stew, maybe i'll try 2.2. can it (deb22) install from internet? |
| 18:47.54 | stew | guzu: the memory limit has nothing to do with the kernel, it has to do with trying to hold the package relationship data in memory |
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| 18:48.21 | abrotman | stew: nothing in the IG says about not being compatible with 386 (that i saw anyways |
| 18:48.21 | abrotman | ) |
| 18:48.22 | kEpEx | someone knows the correct sorces that i have to put to apt, in debian sarge, kernel 2.4?? |
| 18:48.38 | abrotman | bws42: ever thought about fixing your nick so that when you join you don't have to change it all the time ? |
| 18:48.51 | abrotman | kEpEx: run `apt-setup` |
| 18:48.56 | peterS | kEpEx: uh, the default sources file should work |
| 18:49.39 | stew | peterS: do you know the answer to the 386 question? what prevents one from using a 386 in etch, is it libc6? is it kernel 2.4 kernel 2.6? |
| 18:50.05 | peterS | stew: pretty sure it's libc6 |
| 18:50.11 | kEpEx | very thanks abrotman |
| 18:50.18 | stew | i could swear don said 2.4 the other day |
| 18:50.36 | peterS | glibc 2.4 isn't in debian yet |
| 18:50.45 | stew | linux 2.4 |
| 18:51.04 | peterS | well, it's in experimental. 2.3.999.2 anyway, which is close. |
| 18:51.34 | kEpEx | peterS the default is security but the packages that i search doesn't appear... for example: dhcpd |
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| 18:51.54 | peterS | kEpEx: the default sources.list file has more than just security.debian.org in it |
| 18:52.14 | stew | kEpEx: security.debian.org isn't a complete mirror, you also need a regular mirror, you should probably run apt-setup |
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| 18:54.21 | mpoz2 | Can I expect performance improvements from putting dirs like /var/tmp /var/cache etc. in a striped LVM volume across multiple discs? Does striped LVM give any improvements at all? |
| 18:54.47 | jade | !seen bob2 |
| 18:54.48 | dpkg | bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 219d 11h 49m 29s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'. |
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| 18:58.18 | bulio| | #Disable root login |
| 18:58.18 | bulio| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.24 | MarcoPau | Hey, I can't hear any sound on flash videos, what should I check? |
| 18:58.30 | bulio| | that would mean I can't login as root on ssh, correct? |
| 18:58.42 | blondie | yes |
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| 18:59.10 | zephyrus_ | sigh |
| 18:59.13 | zephyrus_ | i wish i was better with c |
| 19:00.27 | abrotman | mpoz2: there's probably not much in those directories |
| 19:01.17 | peterS | bulio|: man sshd_config |
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| 19:04.17 | guzu | stew, can you tell me where is debian 2.2? (bootfloppies, i mean :) ) |
| 19:05.00 | peterS | guzu: archive.debian.org |
| 19:05.32 | peterS | start, perhaps, at http://archive.debian.org/dists/Debian-2.2/main/disks-i386/current/ |
| 19:05.42 | guzu | peterS, thnx a lot |
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| 19:06.40 | kEpEx | very thanks... apt-setup was the solution :).. thanks guys |
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| 19:10.24 | guzu | peterS, afayk, debian 2.2 installer will work on 8megsofram machine? |
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| 19:10.46 | peterS | guzu: I must have installed debian 2.2 on my 486 with 8 MB _somehow_. so I guess it does. |
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| 19:11.06 | dmesg | hi |
| 19:11.08 | dmesg | http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24883&hd=0&size=1&l=e |
| 19:11.34 | blondie | dmesg: go away spammer |
| 19:11.36 | peterS | dmesg: people who march into a channel and immediately give out a URL without any explanation of what it is or why we should care ... look very much like spammers |
| 19:11.44 | Ronin | indeed |
| 19:11.48 | guzu | peterS, ok, thnx :) |
| 19:12.07 | dmesg | is about the war |
| 19:12.13 | peterS | dmesg: is it about debian? |
| 19:12.20 | Ronin | dmesg: then spam here |
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| 19:12.25 | blondie | I wasn't aware of a debian war |
| 19:12.30 | dmesg | im human |
| 19:12.32 | Ronin | blondie: we're at war? cool |
| 19:12.37 | peterS | blondie: I guess we're at war with Eastasia and at peace with Eurasia |
| 19:12.44 | blondie | haha |
| 19:13.30 | peterS | Debian can't very well wage a War on Drugs, given how most of it gets developed |
| 19:13.40 | peterS | perhaps we could manage a War on Terror though |
| 19:14.04 | Ronin | peterS: i thought we were? by removing one windows machine at a time from the world |
| 19:14.25 | peterS | Ronin: no dude, we're the ones who give out CDs saying "first one's free" |
| 19:14.34 | Ronin | heh |
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| 19:26.19 | bulio| | how can I have 2 apache web daemons running on one server? |
| 19:26.26 | bulio| | so I could host 2 websites at once |
| 19:26.49 | blondie | you don't need two daemons |
| 19:26.53 | blondie | that's what virtual hosts are for |
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| 19:27.35 | bulio| | and how would I set the virtual host up in sarge? |
| 19:27.49 | blondie | #apache ;) |
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| 19:28.07 | blondie | google for it, it's not that hard to setup |
| 19:28.15 | blondie | you just edit the apache config file |
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| 19:28.28 | abrotman | bulio|: the docs at httpd.apache.org are very good |
| 19:29.03 | bulio| | thanks |
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| 19:29.59 | bulio| | but they both wouldn't be able to be on port 80, would they |
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| 19:31.25 | abrotman | it's a virtual host .. read the docs at httpd.apache.org |
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| 19:32.53 | blondie | bulio|: yes they will |
| 19:33.17 | blondie | bulio|: the http request sent by the client tells apache which site is wanted, and it gives that site |
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| 19:33.44 | Trev_ | logrotate.conf : when adding more files to logrotate.conf , do I need to restart anything or no ?? |
| 19:34.00 | mgois | hello. How can I install mysql 4.1 on testing/unstable? |
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| 19:34.42 | mgois | I already added stable urls to sources.list but it complains about libreadline4 |
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| 19:37.05 | lurker99 | Trev_: no |
| 19:37.06 | abrotman | mgois: why would you want to? |
| 19:37.37 | Trev_ | lurker99 Thank you. |
| 19:37.41 | dondelelcaro | mgois: if you've got stable lines, then you should be able to install mysql-server-4.1 and have it install libreadline4, which is also in stable. |
| 19:37.46 | dondelelcaro | !+info libreadline4 stable |
| 19:37.48 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 19:37.50 | mgois | because i want to install blog:cms and in the site it says it requires mysql 4.0 or 4.1 |
| 19:37.51 | dpkg | libreadline4: (GNU readline and history libraries, run-time libraries), section libs, is standard. Version: 4.3-11 (sarge), Packaged size: 136 kB, Installed size: 280 kB |
| 19:38.41 | mgois | and since i will be developing a site that will be running with 4.1 i'd like to develop it with it |
| 19:39.28 | abrotman | mgois: if you `apt-get install mysql-server-4.1` .. what happens? |
| 19:39.46 | mgois | Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências não satisfeitas: |
| 19:39.46 | mgois | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.46 | mgois | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.52 | mgois | sorry, it's in portuguese :) |
| 19:40.06 | Eulex | mgois, prefix the command with LANG=C |
| 19:40.10 | abrotman | and apt-get install mysql-common-4.1 ? |
| 19:40.10 | Eulex | and try again |
| 19:40.32 | mgois | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:40.32 | mgois | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.32 | mgois | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.33 | Eulex | yeah, true, not really needed... |
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| 19:40.52 | abrotman | mgois: /j #flood |
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| 19:41.06 | dimes | Anyone on using qlogic hba's in Sarge? |
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| 19:46.39 | abrotman | mgois: at this point .. i'm going to say it might be easier to get the source package from sarge and use that |
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| 19:48.21 | dimes | Anyone? QLA2340? Sarge? Beuler? Beuler? ;-) |
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| 19:49.07 | peterS | Bueller, I think you mean |
| 19:49.18 | dimes | Quite possibly =) |
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| 19:49.59 | peterS | debian developer john goerzen uses qlogic hbas at his workplace, with a rather expensive multipath FC thing. but I don't know if he's using sarge. |
| 19:50.27 | racarter | my gnome is displaying xfce4 things like stop watch icon when stuff is loading |
| 19:50.40 | racarter | instead of the standard gnome circle thing |
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| 19:51.17 | racarter | i think it's from when I installed xfwm? anyone know how I can get rid of this without uninstalling xfce? |
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| 19:52.30 | dimes | peterS: might he be on, or do you have a contact for him? I think the info I need is pretty simple, just can't find any ref to it |
| 19:52.59 | peterS | dimes: what info do you need? I don't want to tell you to email him directly or pester him directly on IRC, he never gave me permission to imply _that_ |
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| 19:53.51 | abrotman | dimes: why are you asking? |
| 19:53.59 | abrotman | dimes: i mean about that controller in general |
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| 19:54.16 | dimes | peterS: Of course =) I am jsut trying to get sarge to recognise and init a qla2340, with a fresh recom0piled kernel it sees it, but fails to initialise due to not "finding"? firmware |
| 19:54.52 | peterS | dimes: oh, that's a kernel question, not a debian question, then. I don't know what the situation is with the qla kernel drivers and loading firmware into the HBAs |
| 19:55.12 | abrotman | dimes: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 19:55.21 | dimes | there is conflicting info on whether or not 2.6.17.6 needs external firmware, and I can't find info regarding debian...as usuual, qlogic only lists rh and suse |
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| 19:55.28 | dimes | abrotman: yes sir |
| 19:55.32 | Luke-Jr | * * * * * cp /proc/net/dev "/root/bwinfo/$(date '+%Y%m%d-%k%M%S')" |
| 19:55.38 | Luke-Jr | anything wrong w/ that cron line? |
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| 19:55.58 | abrotman | dimes: but it worked with the debian kernel ? |
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| 19:56.09 | dimes | abrotman: didn't even show up |
| 19:56.21 | abrotman | dimes: which debian kernel? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 19:56.24 | dimes | abrotman: only showed up once I compiled a new kernel |
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| 19:57.02 | dimes | abrotman: kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp |
| 19:57.16 | abrotman | dimes: you could try the kernel from backports.org .. i think it's a 2.6.16 |
| 19:57.26 | dimes | abrotman: the one I compiled is 2.6.17.6 |
| 19:57.36 | blondie | sarge kernel sux0r |
| 19:57.46 | abrotman | dimes: then ask #kernel what you've done wrong :) |
| 19:57.53 | dimes | abrotman: thank you |
| 19:57.59 | abrotman | !karstensmite blondie |
| 19:58.03 | dimes | peterS: thank you |
| 19:58.04 | abrotman | :( |
| 19:58.23 | stoned | haha |
| 19:58.23 | blondie | abrotman: well if it'd actually mount my SATA disks on boot! |
| 19:58.29 | stoned | the bot doesn't like abrotman anymore |
| 19:58.32 | stoned | :D |
| 19:58.42 | abrotman | !hi |
| 19:58.43 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 19:58.43 | blondie | !spanks abrotman |
| 19:58.48 | blondie | !spank abrotman |
| 19:58.49 | abrotman | no s |
| 19:58.51 | blondie | :> |
| 19:58.56 | stoned | ahh |
| 19:58.58 | blondie | <-pebkac |
| 19:58.59 | stoned | changed her to its |
| 19:59.04 | stoned | so dpkg is no more female |
| 19:59.07 | stoned | its an 'it' |
| 19:59.09 | stoned | hmm |
| 19:59.24 | blondie | abrotman: it's mean to me :( |
| 19:59.28 | peterS | stoned: what makes you say dpkg is not a female? |
| 19:59.51 | stoned | peterS, the fact that the factoid used to be bends over HER knee.... and now its bend over its knee |
| 19:59.51 | stoned | etc. |
| 19:59.59 | stoned | c'mon man do I really need to poitn out the obvious |
| 20:00.12 | peterS | stoned: yes, why did you change it? |
| 20:00.15 | stoned | what? |
| 20:00.19 | stoned | I didn't change nothing |
| 20:00.25 | peterS | <stoned> changed her to its |
| 20:00.26 | blondie | stoned: so you did change something |
| 20:00.37 | blondie | double negative! ha! |
| 20:00.40 | stoned | peterS, these charges are false |
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| 20:00.47 | stoned | I noticed.. made an observation |
| 20:00.51 | stoned | I never claimed to have changed anything |
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| 20:02.20 | stoned | !spank peterS |
| 20:02.29 | stoned | man |
| 20:02.34 | stoned | I think I'm hallucinating |
| 20:02.35 | dabreegster | dpkg is female? |
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| 20:02.42 | stew | !gender |
| 20:02.42 | dpkg | I'm sexless |
| 20:02.44 | blondie | you don't confuse me |
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| 20:02.49 | blondie | !sex |
| 20:02.50 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 20:02.52 | stoned | blondie, you're not amale |
| 20:02.53 | stoned | ahahaha |
| 20:02.54 | peterS | !stupid bot tricks |
| 20:02.54 | dpkg | Watching someone play with the bots gets old pretty fast. If you really *must* play with the bots, don't do it here. Use /msg and play there. |
| 20:03.05 | blondie | stoned: is "amale" the opposite of "male"? |
| 20:03.14 | stoned | blondie, typo |
| 20:03.18 | stoned | god |
| 20:03.21 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:03.23 | karsten | stoned: You called? |
| 20:03.23 | blondie | stoned: yes I am thanks. |
| 20:03.24 | stoned | people are so fucking thick |
| 20:03.25 | stoned | jeez |
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| 20:03.34 | abrotman | came back for more huh? |
| 20:03.44 | stoned | karsten, yo sup dude man homie bro |
| 20:03.45 | blondie | stoned: yeah, sorry to hear that. |
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| 20:04.40 | abrotman | depends what you used to crush it |
| 20:04.49 | stoned | crush? |
| 20:05.08 | stoned | man, what the matter today, everyone is either slow or just acting strange |
| 20:05.17 | abrotman | markybob: all of them? |
| 20:05.20 | peterS | markybob: there are a lot of people on this channel, it would take a great deal of money and effort to bribe _all_ of us not to testify against you |
| 20:05.22 | abrotman | there has to be a useful one somewhere |
| 20:05.27 | stoned | markybob, you should know better than to call tech support |
| 20:05.37 | blondie | stoned: I think you're the one being slow :P |
| 20:05.45 | stoned | blondie, :( no im not |
| 20:05.55 | blondie | stoned: you're not getting people's jokes/sarcasm |
| 20:05.59 | peterS | stoned: how can you tell? can anyone who is slow tell that he is slow? |
| 20:06.01 | stoned | apparantly |
| 20:06.07 | karsten | markybob: What's bumming you WRT HP? |
| 20:06.07 | peterS | did you fall off the wagon? |
| 20:06.09 | stoned | maybe its just me |
| 20:06.13 | stoned | well, more than likely its me |
| 20:06.20 | stoned | YES I'm off the wagon |
| 20:06.22 | sussudio | why do these netsplits keep killing blootbot? |
| 20:06.25 | peterS | *nod* |
| 20:06.25 | stoned | I can't get back on for a few more weeks |
| 20:06.28 | stoned | but.. |
| 20:06.32 | karsten | !sussudio |
| 20:06.32 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass, karsten! |
| 20:06.35 | stoned | I mean, should it not be the other way around |
| 20:06.44 | stoned | if you're on the wagon, then you're fucked |
| 20:06.49 | markybob | karsten, the fact that they're *all* idiots. they act as if i'm not speaking english to them and they dont know wtf is going on |
| 20:06.49 | stoned | but if you're off it, you're sober/fine |
| 20:06.51 | stoned | I mean |
| 20:06.55 | stoned | why is that backwards? |
| 20:07.03 | abrotman | markybob: maybe english isn't their first language? |
| 20:07.05 | karsten | markybob: Other than that, what's the problem you're trying to solve |
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| 20:07.42 | abrotman | or go find bdale? |
| 20:07.53 | karsten | abrotman: That's a thought. |
| 20:08.23 | markybob | abrotman, i have nothing against immigration. i really dont. but just like i dont try out for the olympics, people who cant speak english shouldnt be getting customer-related jobs in america. it's just insane |
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| 20:08.32 | floppyears | hi |
| 20:08.39 | blondie | floppyears: are you a bunny? |
| 20:08.44 | abrotman | where's echo? |
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| 20:08.51 | karsten | abrotman: /bin |
| 20:08.52 | floppyears | I'm trying to get the acroread package from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
| 20:08.54 | abrotman | markybob: you could complain with your wallet |
| 20:08.58 | floppyears | but that seems to be down |
| 20:09.00 | blondie | /bin/echo |
| 20:09.04 | floppyears | does anybody know of a good alternative to it ? |
| 20:09.04 | abrotman | !tell floppyears about marillat |
| 20:09.05 | SubStack | markybob, so then they should be sitting around doing nothing? |
| 20:09.06 | floppyears | blondie: no |
| 20:09.12 | blondie | floppyears: aww |
| 20:09.34 | karsten | floppyears: The server's changed. It's now ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.foo/ or something |
| 20:09.44 | markybob | SubStack, i didnt say they shouldnt work. they shouldnt do things that involves verbal communication |
| 20:09.57 | SubStack | I can't imagine customer service improving by leaps by requiring english for those sorts of jobs anyhow |
| 20:10.00 | peterS | I want a domain in .foo |
| 20:10.01 | karsten | floppyears: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 20:10.22 | floppyears | thanks |
| 20:10.50 | karsten | peterS: for the low, low fee of $9,999.98, payable to me, it's yours. |
| 20:10.52 | abrotman | peterS: what would you call it |
| 20:10.57 | karsten | abrotman: bar. |
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| 20:11.01 | abrotman | nah |
| 20:11.11 | peterS | abrotman: kung |
| 20:11.14 | abrotman | sna.foo ? |
| 20:11.24 | abrotman | yes .. iknow it's spelled wrong |
| 20:11.47 | karsten | web.foo |
| 20:12.28 | karsten | imtoosexyformy.foo |
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| 20:12.42 | rabies | can anyone tell me where the new x server config file is located for the new modular packages in etch? |
| 20:12.48 | Spec | karsten: no you're not, your foo told me you were at the correct level of sexiness for it |
| 20:12.55 | karsten | rabies: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:13.27 | karsten | rabies: ... I think. |
| 20:13.36 | karsten | Spec: my foo lies. |
| 20:13.48 | peterS | I pity your foo |
| 20:14.00 | karsten | ;-) |
| 20:15.41 | abrotman | probably saw the umbrella hat picture |
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| 20:15.55 | peterS | come to think of it, pityda.foo would be a nice domain |
| 20:15.56 | karsten | abrotman: ?? |
| 20:17.07 | peterS | karsten: you haven't seen abrotman's umbrella hat picture? |
| 20:17.13 | karsten | per.foo/tofhappiness |
| 20:17.19 | karsten | peterS: apparently not |
| 20:17.55 | abrotman | karsten: have you seen cakebutt? |
| 20:18.40 | karsten | abrotman: nope |
| 20:18.51 | karsten | abrotman: WTF is that? |
| 20:18.58 | abrotman | karsten: wtf is what? |
| 20:19.06 | karsten | abrotman: cakebutt. |
| 20:19.19 | abrotman | karsten: cake on my butt .. it's from a wedding |
| 20:20.08 | abrotman | it was an accident .. someone put the cake table next to the beer pong table |
| 20:20.20 | karsten | Yeah, yeah. |
| 20:20.23 | karsten | Happens all the time. |
| 20:20.32 | abrotman | i'm not even sure peterS has seen it |
| 20:20.41 | peterS | I don't remember seeing a cakebutt picture |
| 20:20.58 | peterS | I've heard of sackbuts, but not cakebutts |
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| 20:21.15 | abrotman | peterS: it's from a wedding long ago |
| 20:21.24 | karsten | peterS: Well, that's a long slide. |
| 20:21.37 | peterS | oy |
| 20:22.06 | abrotman | peterS: not quite as good as umbrella hat |
| 20:22.12 | peterS | not quite as good, agreed |
| 20:22.54 | karsten | Yeah. Right. |
| 20:22.56 | abrotman | there are other various pictures of me available .. but none as silly as those two |
| 20:23.02 | abrotman | well .. not that i have :) |
| 20:24.10 | tuv | has anyone tried getmail4 on DebianSlug (debian on nslu2)? it frequently fails here with the error: " operation error (socket/ssl error while reading from server ((110, 'Connection timed out')))" |
| 20:24.35 | karsten | tuv: Sounds like a possible problem at the server side. |
| 20:24.36 | tuv | the same getmailrc on another x86 machine works just fine |
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| 20:24.47 | karsten | tuv: That's POP mail download. Try manual connection. |
| 20:24.54 | karsten | tuv: telnet <myserver> 110 |
| 20:25.08 | karsten | tuv: then: USER <username> / PASS <password> / LIST |
| 20:25.18 | karsten | tuv: ... see if you can get a connection. |
| 20:25.23 | tuv | karsten, getmail manages to connect and often delivers few messages before showing the error |
| 20:25.50 | tuv | karsten, it never gets to deliver all messages though |
| 20:26.09 | tuv | karsten, when there are many to be delivered anyway |
| 20:26.14 | karsten | Hrm. Looks like I just won myself the modularized X.org packages. |
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| 20:26.22 | karsten | tuv: Try fetchmail. |
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| 20:27.42 | gan|y|med | hi |
| 20:27.50 | gan|y|med | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:28.16 | gan|y|med | it works with a certain number of pics, but with larger numbers it says: convert: Application transferred too few scanlines 'picture_name' |
| 20:28.25 | gan|y|med | the pics are corrupted (black or black lines). any ideas? |
| 20:28.54 | bulio| | what is the easiest way to do backups? |
| 20:28.59 | bulio| | use rysnc in a cron job? |
| 20:29.06 | bulio| | I need to backup a folder with many files inside |
| 20:29.11 | karsten | bulio|: Depends on what you want to accomplish. |
| 20:29.17 | bulio| | would I have a cronjob tar the files then send the tar to another dir? |
| 20:29.22 | bulio| | I need this done: |
| 20:29.27 | karsten | bulio|: tar, rsync, amanda, svn, all have their benefits. |
| 20:29.36 | peterS | bulio|: rdiff-backup isn't a bad place to start |
| 20:29.45 | peterS | it's rsync-like but geared specifically toward backups |
| 20:29.49 | karsten | bulio|: I tend to discount packaged backup systems. |
| 20:29.50 | bulio| | 1. Tars the folder (and contents) /var/www/apache2-default |
| 20:30.03 | bulio| | 2. Sends the tarred folder to /home/bulio |
| 20:30.09 | bulio| | and does this every week |
| 20:30.13 | bulio| | once a week |
| 20:30.21 | karsten | bulio|: tar czvf - <some path> | ssh remotehost 'cat > <some path>/<archiv>.tar.gz |
| 20:30.27 | peterS | so you're saying, bulio|, that you're sick and tarred of doing these backups by hand? |
| 20:30.41 | karsten | Um. Close quote on that. |
| 20:31.10 | karsten | Um. What driver to use fo rS3 Inc. 86d270-294 savage/IX-MV (rev 11) (lspci output)? |
| 20:31.13 | bulio| | peterS: I need content backed up while I'm on vacation |
| 20:31.22 | karsten | s/fo rS3/for S3/ |
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| 20:31.34 | epsilon | grafic? |
| 20:31.35 | bulio| | karsten: I want the backup on the same host |
| 20:31.36 | peterS | karsten: there's a 'savage' driver, don't know if it covers that model |
| 20:31.42 | bulio| | I can download the backiup to my PC later |
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| 20:32.12 | karsten | peterS: Yeah. Used to be a listing of cards/drivers under the X server /usr/share/doc/ tree, can't find it at moment. |
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| 20:32.32 | epsilon | search the list for Savage S3 driver, very common chip several years ago |
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| 20:32.40 | peterS | karsten: right, www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/Status.html was a great resource too, don't know that xorg has an equivalent, unfortunately |
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| 20:34.12 | peterS | karsten: the video drivers do have manpages in section 4, so 'man 4 savage' or so |
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| 20:34.57 | gan|y|med | ciao |
| 20:35.05 | karsten | peterS: Thanks |
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| 20:36.52 | epsilon | is the approx. etch release date still december? |
| 20:37.15 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 20:37.15 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg00005.html |
| 20:37.16 | karsten | Failed to load kernel module "savage" |
| 20:37.28 | blondie | !badger |
| 20:37.28 | dpkg | methinks badger is bar baz quuz thump |
| 20:37.30 | smagy2 | hello folks can some explain why a ssh session like ssh "ulimits -a " reports different values than logging into the systema and then running ulimits. like in the example here http://rafb.net/paste/results/K2RN8s63.html |
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| 20:37.54 | karsten | I think I've just used vesa in past. |
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| 20:38.10 | stoned | I got it |
| 20:38.14 | kismet_ | anyone know how to stop a daemon? i've got MRTG running and I can't stop it |
| 20:38.15 | peterS | smagy2: you should use 'ulimit', not 'ulimits' |
| 20:38.18 | stoned | the jokes I mean, half an hour too late |
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| 20:38.20 | stoned | but I got it |
| 20:38.22 | cds | When compiling gimp, it changed the font used in my apps. |
| 20:38.27 | cds | How do I change it back? |
| 20:38.47 | jair | guys the command to delete an user is "deluser" right but if I want to delete the home directory as well with the user? but preserve just files and documents created or owned by the user deleted. |
| 20:38.53 | peterS | epsilon: yes |
| 20:39.06 | epsilon | kismet_: usualy /etc/init.d/<daemon> (start|stop|restart|reload|...) |
| 20:39.12 | smagy2 | peterS: sorry i meant ulimit and not ulimits . typo |
| 20:39.20 | jair | because I delete the user but his home directory still there? |
| 20:39.33 | kismet_ | epsilon, it's not in /etc/init.d/ for some reason |
| 20:39.34 | karsten | kismet_: /etc/init.d/<daemonfile> start|stop|restart |
| 20:39.48 | peterS | jair: check out the userdel program |
| 20:40.01 | karsten | jair: Rephrase, unclear. |
| 20:40.11 | epsilon | kismet_: which application exactly, and is it from debian, or custom software? |
| 20:40.14 | kismet_ | it's not in /etc/cron.d/ or /etc/crontab or anything either, and doesn't show up with "ps -ua" |
| 20:40.17 | jair | peterS: If I am asking here is because I could not understand the userdel man page |
| 20:40.34 | peterS | jair: no, you said deluser, I'm telling you about userdel. |
| 20:40.42 | jair | karsten: I want to delete an user with his home directory |
| 20:40.50 | kismet_ | epsilon: MRTG running on Debian, I think it was compiled, not a package |
| 20:41.05 | jair | peterS: deluser is the one I want to use, comes qith debian |
| 20:41.08 | epsilon | what's MRTG |
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| 20:41.18 | abrotman | !mrtg |
| 20:41.18 | dpkg | [mrtg] old, use rrdtools instead. Check out http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html and RRDTOOL is at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ |
| 20:41.18 | peterS | jair: they both come with debian |
| 20:41.22 | karsten | epsilon: multi-router traffic graph |
| 20:41.41 | jair | peterS: ok but I want to use the interactive one "deluser" ;) |
| 20:41.42 | smagy2 | jair: from userdel man page -r Files in the user's home directory will be removed along with the home directory itself and the user's mail spool. |
| 20:41.42 | peterS | smagy2: ulimits are set up by the login environment, normally the pam_limits module. if your /etc/pam.d/ssh is not the same as /etc/pam.d/xdm or /etc/pam.d/login, such that one invokes pam_limits and the other does not, that explains something |
| 20:41.45 | karsten | jair: Um. 'rm -rf /home/<username>' works. |
| 20:41.56 | peterS | jair: stop telling us which tool you must use. you asked a question, you got an answer. |
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| 20:41.59 | epsilon | kismet_: <evil>use rrdtools instead</evil> :-) |
| 20:42.06 | jair | smagy2: thank you very much |
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| 20:42.30 | jair | peterS: haha whatever, thanks peace off |
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| 20:42.33 | karsten | jair: Generally, it's best to *lock* a user's account, figure out what you're going to do with his/her files, then (eventually) delete the account. |
| 20:42.37 | peterS | jair: you know you could have read that same blurb in 'man userdel' 5 minutes ago if you had stopped arguing with me long enough to bother reading it |
| 20:42.45 | sdschulze | Hi; acpid doesn't work since /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi uses /proc/acpi/event. What shall I do? |
| 20:43.11 | kismet_ | epsilon: i'd love to, but i really need this thing to STOP omg |
| 20:43.13 | smagy2 | peterS: thanks for the explanation. appreciate it will look into reading about it |
| 20:43.15 | jair | karsten: sounds interesting |
| 20:43.21 | epsilon | kismet_: if unsure, check how it get started... and try to shutdown properly in reverse way (instead kill -9) |
| 20:43.26 | jair | karsten: how I will be able to do that ;) |
| 20:43.50 | peterS | jair: usermod |
| 20:44.12 | karsten | jair: man passwd; man rm; man vipasswd |
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| 20:44.25 | jair | karsten: thank you and Thank you peterS |
| 20:44.27 | Frostbite | Anyone know where I can pick up a laptop in florida? going on holiday there... |
| 20:44.31 | liran_ | the bootsplash package iis what makes it possible to display an image on the screen instead of the whole text stuff? |
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| 20:44.38 | epsilon | kismet_: and in case of emergency, remove +x from the daemon binary, so no one can start it |
| 20:44.41 | karsten | Frostbite: GIYF |
| 20:45.22 | Frostbite | karsten: I've dong that |
| 20:45.56 | Frostbite | *done |
| 20:45.59 | jair | coo guys ;) |
| 20:46.03 | abrotman | why didn't anyone tell me they added serial? |
| 20:46.06 | Obscure | Nighty |
| 20:46.15 | jair | cool thank you for your collaboration again ;) |
| 20:47.06 | smagy2 | peterS: thanks once again. reading pam.d directory pointed to /etc/security/limits.conf which kind of explaned it |
| 20:47.23 | peterS | smagy2: *nod* |
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| 20:47.44 | Tallu | Hmm, this is really weird. My computer gets stuck on Waiting for root file system... ALERT! /dev/hdc1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! and then i'm stuck on initramfs |
| 20:47.45 | karsten | What's the package for console mouse? |
| 20:48.10 | karsten | Frostbite: Dude. Where in Florida? It's a big state. I'd suggest starting at a compter store. |
| 20:48.11 | peterS | gpm |
| 20:48.22 | karsten | peterS: Danke. |
| 20:48.31 | Frostbite | karsten: somewhere within about 3hrs of tampa |
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| 20:48.53 | karsten | Frostbite: How about Tampa, then. Again: GIYF. |
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| 20:49.27 | karsten | /dev/input/mice: no such file or directory. |
| 20:49.30 | kismet_ | epsilon: shouldn't i be able to see a process that's running, even if it's a perl script that's sleeping? |
| 20:49.31 | abrotman | Frostbite: are you freaking serious? |
| 20:49.34 | abrotman | karsten: modprobe mousedev |
| 20:49.46 | abrotman | Frostbite: tell the taxi driver to take you to the electronics megastore |
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| 20:49.58 | peterS | karsten: will be fixed in the next gpm upload (: I was poking at that one just today |
| 20:50.02 | karsten | abrotman: OK, it's loaded, still no device. |
| 20:50.06 | peterS | meanwhile do what abrotman says and load mousedev yourself |
| 20:50.35 | karsten | mousedev's also in /etc/modules, should just be loaded. |
| 20:51.22 | karsten | *Not* using udev, btw, 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 20:51.26 | karsten | 2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 20:51.43 | peterS | karsten: then I wonder why /dev/input/mice doesn't already exist on your system. with a static /dev, that should've been stuck in there by default |
| 20:52.06 | peterS | normally the reason it doesn't exist is because of udev, with mousedev not being loaded |
| 20:52.20 | karsten | makedev doesn't know how to make mice. |
| 20:52.27 | karsten | major/minor? |
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| 20:52.38 | peterS | 'MAKEDEV input' I think |
| 20:52.46 | peterS | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 Apr 29 2004 /dev/input/mice |
| 20:52.48 | stew | yes |
| 20:53.15 | karsten | .udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV invocation. |
| 20:53.23 | karsten | !shoot MAKEDEV |
| 20:53.29 | peterS | ha, cute |
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| 20:54.25 | karsten | cd /dev; mv .udev .udev-isnt-the-udev-your-are-looking-for |
| 20:54.59 | peterS | yay |
| 20:55.30 | peterS | it was a 'savage', right? |
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| 20:55.53 | karsten | I tried S3, lemme check if that actually stuck. |
| 20:56.25 | karsten | Um. dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesn't actually update the config file. |
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| 20:58.42 | abrotman | karsten: -plow ? |
| 20:59.41 | karsten | abrotman: I think it's bogus information. Isn't there an md5sum somewhere? |
| 21:00.15 | abrotman | !xorgmd5 |
| 21:00.16 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case 'md5sum -c /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf/md5sum' - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've mad |
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| 21:01.26 | karsten | "you've mad"? |
| 21:01.31 | karsten | ;-) |
| 21:02.52 | karsten | Interesting, that didn't update it, still manually editing, vesa |
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| 21:04.56 | smagy2 | peterS: i had added the line * hard memlock unlimited to /etc/security/limits.conf but i still get the same values as described in http://rafb.net/paste/results/K2RN8s63.html do i have to restart any sysdaemons |
| 21:05.21 | peterS | smagy2: the values in limits.conf should take effect every time you log in |
| 21:05.27 | MarcoPau | Hey, I can't hear any sound on flash videos, what should I check? |
| 21:05.34 | MarcoPau | (debian sid) |
| 21:05.41 | abrotman | aumix and alsa-mixer |
| 21:05.47 | peterS | smagy2: but I can't be certain of that, it's possible that you need to restart sshd or whatever |
| 21:05.52 | MarcoPau | abrotman: they should be all up |
| 21:06.00 | abrotman | so double check |
| 21:06.11 | jair | guys the stable versions of apache mysql and php are ====> php4. apache 1.3.33 and mysql 4.1? |
| 21:06.13 | MarcoPau | abrotman: actually only alsamixer, cause aumix is for oss afaik |
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| 21:06.23 | smagy2 | peterS: well i did run ssh hostname "ulimit -a" from another system since it would initiate a new login. hmmmn |
| 21:06.36 | abrotman | MarcoPau: i'm telling you to check it .. flash could use the OSS emulated devices |
| 21:06.57 | peterS | smagy2: make sure sshd is using pam_limits, see if it appears in /etc/pam.d/ssh |
| 21:07.07 | peterS | smagy2: (and 'UsePam yes' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config) |
| 21:07.11 | Tallu | Running sarge, 2.6.16 kernel, took hd out and switched to a new computer, gets stuck at mounting root fs, gives initramfs console, to be honest I'm at my wits end. I tried to check the initramfs conf but it just says that it's on auto |
| 21:07.31 | MarcoPau | abrotman: so installing aumix and pulling up the volumes would be enough? Lemme try |
| 21:07.34 | stew | jair: apache 1.3 or 2.0.54, mysql 4.0 or 4.1, and php 4.3 |
| 21:08.06 | MarcoPau | abrotman: installed aumix: error opening the mixer |
| 21:08.29 | stew | MarcoPau: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 21:08.50 | jair | stew: thank you, and if I am using apache 1.3 all I need to have phpmyadmin is the package php4-mysql and phpmyadmin? |
| 21:09.08 | stew | jair: yes |
| 21:09.23 | jair | stew: thanks ;) |
| 21:09.50 | smagy2 | peterS: yiipppee! adding UsePam yes to sshd_config did the trick! thank you!!! could buy you beer for that ! |
| 21:10.12 | MarcoPau | stew: ok, now it opened, pulled up all the volumes but the video is still soundless... am I supposed to reboot firefox? |
| 21:10.28 | peterS | smagy2: cool - I would've mentioned that earlier but I thought usepam yes was already the debian default. |
| 21:10.49 | stew | MarcoPau: i doubt restarting firefox would have any effect |
| 21:11.09 | smagy2 | peterS: unfortunately the systems have a different sshd_config put in by another sys admin :( that is why it wasn't there. |
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| 21:11.38 | peterS | ahhhh. |
| 21:11.41 | abrotman | MarcoPau: you might need the OSS emu devices |
| 21:11.50 | stew | abrotman: done |
| 21:12.02 | MarcoPau | I just modprobed that module |
| 21:12.07 | MarcoPau | anything missing? |
| 21:12.27 | karsten | OK, back in X |
| 21:12.33 | peterS | smagy2: note that the reason usepam is even an option is that the upstream maintainers (openbsd) consider it potentially less secure. (sshd with pam can't use a security feature called 'privilege separation', and openbsd guys in general don't like the pam architecture.) |
| 21:12.39 | MarcoPau | it's working |
| 21:12.46 | roxy_ | I have 2 kernel 2.6.17, 1 vanilla the 2.6.17 and one debian the 2.6.17-1-486. When I run make install to install kernel module, it copy the module to the 2.6.17 modules, how can I ask to be copied to the 2.6.17-1-486 ? |
| 21:12.53 | MarcoPau | stew: actually needed to rebooty |
| 21:12.55 | peterS | smagy2: this mainly matters in case of any future vulnerabilities discovered in sshd |
| 21:13.02 | MarcoPau | stew: reboot firefox I mean |
| 21:13.07 | MarcoPau | thanks stew and abrotman |
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| 21:13.38 | smagy2 | peterS: oh okay. will look into it. i guess i need to go and rtfm |
| 21:13.58 | karsten | abrotman: Nice umbrella. |
| 21:15.48 | peterS | smagy2: I don't see anything wrong with 'UsePAM yes', but I thought I'd warn you why it's an option rather than a fixed feature. it might affect some people's decisions to use it. |
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| 21:20.09 | cds | What does "E: [package] has no installation candidate" in apt mean? |
| 21:20.34 | karsten | cds: Usually followed in the descriptions, isn't it? |
| 21:20.35 | stew | cds: that no version of that package was found in any of your configured sources |
| 21:20.53 | karsten | cds: That's a package which is known locally but doesn't appear to be in the Debian archives, IIRC. |
| 21:21.07 | cds | Ah, ok. So I should try another repo? |
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| 21:21.40 | stew | cds: what package? what version of debian are you running? |
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| 21:22.10 | Gumby | does anyone here know a webmail package that allows a user to use their own or multiple smtp settings? |
| 21:22.20 | cds | msttcorefonts, testing. |
| 21:22.50 | cds | Ah, that worked. |
| 21:23.36 | cds | Grr, no it didn't. |
| 21:23.43 | cds | Anyone know where I can download the fonts? |
| 21:24.48 | peterS | cds: the package is in 'contrib', the fonts themselves are I suppose in some location described by the package READMEs |
| 21:25.05 | cds | So how do I download the fonts? |
| 21:25.13 | karsten | !tell cds about msttcorefonts |
| 21:25.17 | peterS | cds: have you installed msttcorefonts? then read the docs that come with it |
| 21:25.35 | abrotman | karsten: shut it! |
| 21:25.43 | abrotman | stew: done? |
| 21:25.46 | cds | No, it won't install. |
| 21:25.54 | abrotman | karsten: do you like cakebutt? |
| 21:26.14 | cds | Can't I download the .ttf files? |
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| 21:26.21 | peterS | cds: "won't install" is not a very useful bug report |
| 21:26.26 | karsten | abrotman: *Fahbulous* |
| 21:26.30 | cds | That's the best you're getting. |
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| 21:26.32 | cds | It's not downloading. |
| 21:26.33 | peterS | cds: I mean, why doesn't my car start? |
| 21:26.41 | cds | Where do I get the .ttf files? |
| 21:27.00 | peterS | cds: didn't dpkg already /msg you an answer to that one? |
| 21:27.14 | peterS | also, why won't my car start? |
| 21:27.29 | cds | No, he didn't. |
| 21:27.38 | cds | He told me where to get some .exe files. |
| 21:27.45 | peterS | and told you what to do with them |
| 21:28.07 | peterS | if it were legal to repackage the ttf files and distribute them directly from the debian ftp servers ... someone would have done so |
| 21:28.13 | cds | Don't you think apt-get install msttcorefonts already attempted to do that? |
| 21:28.20 | peterS | I don't nkow |
| 21:28.27 | cds | 23:26:32 < cds> It's not downloading. |
| 21:28.30 | peterS | since you insist upon your right not to give us any information on what it did |
| 21:28.45 | cds | Resolving easynews.dl.sourceforge.net... 69.16.168.245 |
| 21:28.45 | cds | Connecting to easynews.dl.sourceforge.net|69.16.168.245|:80... failed: Connection timed out. |
| 21:28.48 | cds | Giving up. |
| 21:29.02 | peterS | sounds like a problem at sourceforge |
| 21:29.12 | roxy_ | if I used make-kpkg to make a kernel from source(downaloaded with aptitude), would apitude update will update it ? |
| 21:29.21 | peterS | like, a web server being down or firewalled away from you |
| 21:29.24 | stew | cds: i have no problem connecting to easynews.dl.sourceforge.net |
| 21:29.32 | cds | It could be a proxy issue. |
| 21:29.39 | peterS | ah, could be that too |
| 21:30.05 | cds | Does it use the http or the ftp method? |
| 21:30.28 | peterS | cds: given that it's trying port 80, I'm guessing http |
| 21:31.11 | beardy | roxy_: No, not unless you put it in a repository and fiddle around, and stamp it properly with version information, why do you want to? Install it with dpkg. |
| 21:31.45 | cds | peterS: wget works. |
| 21:31.46 | peterS | roxy_: if you want something aptitude can pull from: |
| 21:31.47 | peterS | !own repo |
| 21:31.48 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 21:32.13 | peterS | cds: I wonder what the msttcorefonts package is trying, then. I don't have it installed so I can't really check |
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| 21:33.35 | beardy | peterS: Nice factoid. |
| 21:33.44 | peterS | beardy: thanks |
| 21:33.45 | cds | Ok... so... how do I install them? |
| 21:33.52 | cds | Since apt won't let me install the packages needed. |
| 21:34.11 | peterS | cds: figure out how msttcorefonts is trying to download it, and fix it, I guess |
| 21:34.14 | CHodapp | Can anyone tell me why certain packages need to be removed (i.e. the whole of KDE or GNOME) to install a package like FAM? |
| 21:34.22 | cds | peterS: And how do I do that? |
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| 21:34.36 | peterS | cds: why are you asking me? I already told you I don't have msttcorefonts installed. |
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| 21:34.52 | roxy_ | beardy: I tried to install a kernel module but got symbol error, usually the reason is kernel header problem. To check I install a kernel from source and booted into it. I could load the module without problem. But I prefer to have everything under aptitude watch so I rebooted into the binary-debian kernel, but now when I try to install the module, it copies in /lib/module/kernel-source instead of /lib/module/kernel-binary. |
| 21:35.05 | peterS | sometimes I'll fix a package I don't even use as a favor to someone who does use it. today I'm not really in the mood. |
| 21:35.09 | cds | Does anyone else know how to install the microsoft fonts? |
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| 21:36.12 | Tallu | Ok this is weird. I can see the hd in dmesg but i cant see it in /dev/ and i cant mount it no matter what. |
| 21:36.28 | roxy_ | peterS: thanks for the link, but having my own repository seems to much hassle. |
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| 21:36.52 | peterS | roxy_: then use 'dpkg -i' rather than 'aptitude' to manage package updates |
| 21:37.45 | zOap | how do I prevent nautilus from restarting itself? |
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| 21:38.25 | peterS | cds: looks like update-ms-fonts uses 'wget --continue --tries=1 --dns-timeout=10 --connect-timeout=5 --read-timeout=300 --directory-prefix . -c' |
| 21:38.39 | karsten | zOap: Remove it. |
| 21:38.40 | cds | I can't see how that should break it :/ |
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| 21:40.21 | peterS | cds: nor I. but if you have the font .exe files downloaded to some directory, try running update-ms-fonts /that/directory |
| 21:40.36 | peterS | cds: by passing a /that/directory argument, it should suppress the urge to wget |
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| 21:40.37 | cds | I don't. |
| 21:40.42 | roxy_ | peterS: thanks |
| 21:40.56 | peterS | cds: but you said wget worked - doesn't that imply that you downloaded the .exe files? I'm confused |
| 21:41.09 | cds | No, wget works outside of apt as a test. |
| 21:41.51 | karsten | zOap: what WM/DE are you running? |
| 21:42.00 | zOap | karsten, that would do it, but I use it for samba network browsing.. so It would be nice to hold on to it.. |
| 21:42.06 | zOap | karsten, gnome |
| 21:42.10 | zOap | 2.14 |
| 21:42.46 | peterS | cds: well it tries quite a few URLs, see if you can download files from any of them: http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/ and then easynews.dl, twtelecom.dl, aleron.dl, cesnet.dl, switch.dl |
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| 21:43.20 | Fuzzy76 | What mechanism does Debian have for saving iptables? I can't seem ti find any. |
| 21:43.28 | cds | Bah, I've got a friend to email them to me. |
| 21:43.49 | peterS | cds: or pull down the .exe files from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts individually |
| 21:44.21 | karsten | zOap: gnome is rather nautilus-happy. |
| 21:44.21 | karsten | zOap: There are other/better Samba network browsers. |
| 21:44.21 | karsten | zOap: Unfortunately Nautilus is extremely poorly scoped / designed. |
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| 21:44.26 | cds | It's really easier to get a friend to email them. |
| 21:44.32 | DocOC | Fuzzy76: most people create an init-script that re-impliments your iptables rules on boot. |
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| 21:44.54 | zOap | karsten, what samba browser do you like? |
| 21:45.02 | peterS | I hope he appreciates that I just downloaded the msttcorefonts package and read the source code in order to give him that information |
| 21:45.15 | peterS | he seemed a bit grumpy |
| 21:45.33 | karsten | zOap: Generally, I just mount stuff. I believe konqueror can do it. |
| 21:45.45 | karsten | zOap: smbclient for text / console mode. |
| 21:46.12 | karsten | zOap: Might want to find a gnome channel. |
| 21:46.26 | zOap | karsten, thanks. I tried linneighborhood, but sometimes it didn't work against win 2003 servers.. |
| 21:46.44 | zOap | karsten, I'll do that. thanks :) |
| 21:49.32 | Eulex | wow: I'm looking for a cheapo laser printer, and I found one that specifically lists that it's compatible with debian: samsung ml-2010 :) |
| 21:49.32 | DocOC | why not find the share you are looking for using findsmb and then mount the share using smbmount? Then any file-manager will see it. |
| 21:50.13 | zOap | DocOC, that's a good advice. I'll look into it. thanks:) |
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| 21:50.35 | Wyzard | Eulex: Any printer that supports PostScript should be fine |
| 21:50.42 | Wyzard | Eulex: I have an HP LaserJet 1300 and it works nicely |
| 21:51.43 | Wyzard | Eulex: I've seen a Samsung printer (might have been that one, but I'm not sure; I don't remember the model number) that uses some proprietary page language, not PostScript, but provides a Linux driver |
| 21:52.01 | Wyzard | Eulex: but the driver is annoying to install, and a bit old (GTK 1.x for its UI, I think) |
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| 21:52.16 | Eulex | Wyzard, well, what made an impression on me was that the technical specs explicitly specified debian as a supported os |
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| 21:52.59 | Wyzard | Eulex: It's nice that they say that, but printer support isn't really a distro-specific thing |
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| 21:53.21 | Wyzard | Eulex: They probably just said "this supports Linux" and listed the most popular distros |
| 21:53.29 | Eulex | Wyzard, true |
| 21:53.57 | Wyzard | Eulex: I'd strongly recommend getting a printer that supports PostScript, not some proprietary thing that happens to provide a (closed-source, not-well-maintained) driver for it |
| 21:54.46 | Eulex | Wyzard, ok. thanks for the advice :) |
| 21:55.09 | Wyzard | Eulex: IIRC, I got my LaserJet 1300 because linuxprinting.org recommended it as a good "personal" laser printer that supports PostScript |
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| 21:55.20 | Blissex | Eulex: seconded, but also many printers have an open source GhostScript driver |
| 21:55.31 | Wyzard | Eulex: It was $300, I believe, but I don't remember whether that was before or after the $100 rebate that HP was offering at the time |
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| 21:58.28 | cds | Anyone know how to change the default font to one that doesn't suck? |
| 21:58.51 | morphir | i have a problem with permissions since I can play videos as root but not as _user....to what file do I set the right permissions? |
| 21:59.00 | stew | cds: default font for what? |
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| 21:59.15 | cds | stew: firefox, gimp, gaim, etc. |
| 21:59.31 | morphir | (i'am using mplayer btw) |
| 21:59.38 | stew | cds: use switch2 from gnome-theme-switch |
| 22:01.05 | cds | Thanks. |
| 22:01.14 | cds | Can anyone recommend a good one? |
| 22:01.30 | unix_infidel | anyone have any experience with Sennheisers warranty? I'm looking to buy a Senn HD202 and i was curious if anyone had any issues with their warranty service. |
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| 22:03.36 | Wyzard | unix_infidel: I don't, but I've seen two cases of a certain piece breaking off of an HD280 -- one of which is mine, so I should be looking into their warranty service too |
| 22:03.59 | unix_infidel | Wyzard: yea, i hear the HD202 gets better reviews than the 280 oddly enough. |
| 22:04.42 | MetaPhaze_laptop | how do i compile a kernel in debian |
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| 22:05.01 | cds | stew: Doesn't want to change in Firefox? |
| 22:05.07 | Gnea | !kernel-package |
| 22:05.07 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 22:05.08 | MetaPhaze_laptop | do they have a tool or do i just install the source and manually compile it |
| 22:05.22 | Gnea | !make-kpkg |
| 22:05.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, make-kpkg is the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra> |
| 22:05.47 | Gnea | MetaPhaze_laptop: there you have it |
| 22:06.00 | MetaPhaze_laptop | Gnea, thanks |
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| 22:07.08 | stew | cds: in firefox: edit->preferences |
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| 22:07.47 | cds | stew: That's just the page.. I mean the menus. |
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| 22:08.32 | stew | cds: firefox is gtk2 so switch2 is what you want |
| 22:08.49 | cds | stew: Yeah.. it has'n changed it for some reason. |
| 22:08.57 | stew | cds: did you restart firefox? |
| 22:09.14 | cds | Yeah. |
| 22:09.25 | cds | Bah.. it's not that big a deal I guess... |
| 22:09.38 | cds | It's worked in everything else. |
| 22:09.41 | cds | Cheers. |
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| 22:12.34 | MetaPhaze_laptop | sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe) what can i do? |
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| 22:17.54 | Ronin | make up your mind Fuzzy76 |
| 22:18.20 | Fuzzy76 | sorry about that, unstable bnc connection :) |
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| 22:18.34 | Ronin | heh |
| 22:18.56 | MetaPhaze_laptop | sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe) what can i do? |
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| 22:23.30 | kastner | I just learned about netstat -s - connections aborted dute to time out seems bad, am I right? |
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| 22:25.21 | MetaPhaze_laptop | sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe) what can i do? |
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| 22:25.38 | MetaPhaze_laptop | cannot remove upgrade or install libasound2-dev |
| 22:25.42 | MetaPhaze_laptop | can someone help? |
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| 22:26.06 | haary | I just read USN-308-1 (shadow vulnerability). Is debian also affected? |
| 22:26.08 | Cooner750 | has anyone here ever used Wildfire Jabber server? |
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| 22:29.17 | Knorrie | !tell MetaPhaze_laptop about repeat |
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| 22:35.13 | MetaPhaze_laptop | why am i getting segfaults in debian? |
| 22:35.27 | Spfy | Hi anyone know how to get mysql working after a crash due to a power outage? |
| 22:36.07 | Spfy | I've deleted it al totaly from the system and reinstall it with apt successfuly and now it says. |
| 22:36.27 | Spfy | -bash: /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or directory |
| 22:37.00 | Spfy | Does apt not completey install the whole program? |
| 22:37.16 | Spfy | That would be kinda stupid if it didn't. |
| 22:37.27 | Thanatermesis | NFS not has a crypt mode ? |
| 22:37.27 | tuxedup | Spfy: have you tried making the file it says it cannot find |
| 22:37.50 | Spfy | I figured the install would have replaced everything about mysql I removed. |
| 22:38.04 | Spfy | I couldn't find the corrupted file so i chad to remove everything. |
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| 22:39.41 | Spfy | Well I created an empty file but stil didn't work. |
| 22:39.51 | stew | Spfy: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 22:40.02 | haary | Well, i just checked the source of shadow_4.0.3-31sarge5, from there it seems, that Debian is affected by CVE-2006-3378 (USN-308-1), too. But still, there is no note about in in the bugtracking system. |
| 22:40.13 | dondelelcaro | haary: so file a bug |
| 22:40.19 | stew | Spfy: anything in /etc/ is considered a conffile, so it assumes that if you removed a conffile you did it for a reason |
| 22:40.30 | stew | haary: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 22:40.35 | Spfy | ahh |
| 22:40.40 | Spfy | see i never knew that |
| 22:40.40 | tuxedup | Spfy: I thinkt his may help, half way down it says what you need to create for that file http://www.hostlibrary.com/installing_apache_mysql_php_on_linux |
| 22:41.00 | Spfy | let me give this a try and see if I have any luck :) |
| 22:41.17 | Xenguy | tuxedup: trying to recreate the file is not going to help in this case |
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| 22:45.55 | johnsbil | Having problems with logging in with thin-clients on a Sarge skolelinux. The loggin windom comes back after trying to logg in? Why? |
| 22:46.44 | johnsbil | Where do I fint webmin on the server? |
| 22:48.10 | Xenguy | johnsbil: people here tend to hate webmin (I've never used it personally) |
| 22:48.35 | Spfy | what other free panels are there? |
| 22:48.39 | Xenguy | I think they believe it is a security nightmare or something |
| 22:49.20 | DocOC | any web interface that allows elevation of priveleges is a problem. |
| 22:49.32 | johnsbil | Xenguy; I'm quite a new beginner and need to se if i can do something to get my thin client up to work again. |
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| 22:50.00 | Xenguy | nod |
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| 22:51.59 | johnsbil | Xenguy; I have 21 thin client at www.haldenfriskole.no that is waiting to come up. Now the pupils and staff is home fore summerholyday, but I have to fix it. .. |
| 22:52.16 | ahammond | karsten: that you, Intruder? |
| 22:52.28 | karsten | ahammond: ?? |
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| 22:52.34 | ahammond | karsten: guess not. |
| 22:52.53 | Cooner750 | is there a VNC server available for Debian? |
| 22:52.59 | ahammond | don't know that many Karstens, let alone in the unix world. :) |
| 22:53.16 | karsten | ahammond: I know several. |
| 22:53.30 | ahammond | karsten: being one yourself, that makes sense. |
| 22:53.30 | thingfish | Cooner750: apt-cache search vnc |
| 22:53.35 | stew | Cooner750: several, apt-cache search vnc server |
| 22:53.53 | karsten | ahammond: Well, I wasn't counting m'self, actually, in _that_ tally. |
| 22:54.19 | Xenguy | johnsbil: sounds like an interesting challenge -- I don't have any particular experience with thin clients, but then we don't know much about your setup either |
| 22:54.45 | ahammond | Cooner750: find it? |
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| 22:58.02 | johnsbil | Xenguy; The setup is the Sarge vertion from www.skolelunux.no using KDE 3.3.2. Logging on as normal user derectly at this server works, but trying to do the same from a thin-client fails. |
| 22:58.59 | Xenguy | johnsbil: you weren't the one who set it up originally then? |
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| 23:00.07 | johnsbil | I'did, but it schould work out of the box after using One single CD: |
| 23:00.40 | Xenguy | johnsbil: has it worked before, or is this the first attempt to set it up? |
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| 23:01.25 | johnsbil | Xenguy; Fore me it seems like the thinklientserver cant reach the username and password database. |
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| 23:02.14 | johnsbil | Xengay; It has worked before. It sudenly failed. |
| 23:02.14 | vinvin | hi |
| 23:02.27 | vinvin | is there a way to enable smp on the installation cd ? |
| 23:02.58 | Xenguy | johnsbil: any idea why it suddenly failed then? Also, what software is being used for this? |
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| 23:05.48 | pipeline | vinvin: iirc, no. |
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| 23:05.58 | pipeline | vinvin: gotta install it afterwards :\ |
| 23:05.59 | johnsbil | Xengay; I dont know why it failed, and I'm nort able to tell you more than that we are using debian, KDE 3.3.2 with a lott of software inside. Like OpenOffice, Firefox, ggopris, Konqeror etc |
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| 23:06.19 | vinvin | ok pipeline :( thanks |
| 23:06.39 | vinvin | anyone knows a live cd which has smp enabled ? |
| 23:07.49 | Xenguy | johnsbil: if you set it up then I would expect you to know what thin client software you used :-) In any case, if it were me, I would start by checking the logfiles in /var/log to see if I could get some clues about why login attempts are failing. |
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| 23:09.47 | seb | how turn on /dev/parport0 (parallel port) if not already? |
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| 23:10.36 | jetscreamer | it's not /dev/lp0 ? |
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| 23:14.05 | leafers | how do i install a .deb? |
| 23:14.15 | centrx | leafers, dpkg -i <filename> |
| 23:14.22 | leafers | ok |
| 23:14.36 | johnsbil | Xenguy; Thanks. Then i have some work to do. In var/log I find: syslog user.log kem.log deamon.log auth.log Sugestions where to start ? |
| 23:14.37 | centrx | leafers, depending on what it is though, it is generally better to use apt, and the Debian official repository |
| 23:14.45 | centrx | or other repositories |
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| 23:15.13 | leafers | it is opera |
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| 23:16.29 | leafers | how about an .rpm |
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| 23:17.59 | husky | http://en.fon.com/ |
| 23:18.05 | johnsbil | Where can I fint webmin on a KDE3.3.2 system? |
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| 23:19.41 | stew | johnsbil: try /usr/share/doc/webmin/* |
| 23:20.54 | DocOC | it's been a long time since I used xdm, so now using gdm what user-file would I use to start up additional applications upon startup of my preferred window-manager (fluxbox)? |
| 23:22.54 | leafers | thanks |
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| 23:41.42 | linuxpoet | How do I get Linux to see 3.5TB on a single partition? |
| 23:41.46 | linuxpoet | The most I can get it to see is 1.2TB |
| 23:41.48 | debs3 | how can I stress my network interfaces? is there any program? |
| 23:43.09 | phaedrus44 | how do i copy text from eterm>?...i have only 2 button mouse |
| 23:44.32 | dondelelcaro | phaedrus44: select the text, and you've copied it. |
| 23:44.39 | dondelelcaro | phaedrus44: to paste, use chording. |
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| 23:44.59 | dondelelcaro | phaedrus44: although, if you have a scroll wheel, that's often also a middle button. |
| 23:45.00 | phaedrus44 | whats chording? |
| 23:45.07 | dondelelcaro | phaedrus44: press both mouse buttons at once. |
| 23:45.14 | phaedrus44 | ah thank you |
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| 23:50.29 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kbuild |
| 23:50.29 | dpkg | [kbuild] a package you need, but can't get, trust me... |
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| 23:50.47 | MetaPhaze_laptop | ? |
| 23:50.50 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kernel |
| 23:50.52 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.6, prepatch: 2.6.18-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-rc1-mm2 |
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| 23:51.26 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !then why can't i seem to get 2.6.17.6 in a package |
| 23:51.39 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !buildkernel |
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| 23:52.33 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kernelbuild |
| 23:52.57 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !packageddistro'ssuck |
| 23:53.09 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !gentoo |
| 23:53.09 | dpkg | i heard gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 23:53.43 | MetaPhaze_laptop | lol more than 2 of i have 16 |
| 23:54.00 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kernel |
| 23:54.02 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.17.6, prepatch: 2.6.18-rc2, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-rc1-mm2 |
| 23:54.16 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kbuild |
| 23:54.16 | dpkg | kbuild is, like, a package you need, but can't get, trust me... |
| 23:54.30 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !make-kpkg |
| 23:54.30 | dpkg | make-kpkg is probably the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra> |
| 23:55.08 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !build-essencials |
| 23:55.21 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !build-essentials |
| 23:55.29 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !build-essential |
| 23:55.29 | dpkg | from memory, build-essential is If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package. This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. or apt-get install build-essential; to be able to compile shit |
| 23:55.59 | MetaPhaze_laptop | boy.. not censored for kids are we |
| 23:56.19 | MetaPhaze_laptop | maybe fcc should come in here |
| 23:56.19 | thingfish | stew? |
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| 23:56.53 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !build |
| 23:56.56 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !help |
| 23:57.01 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !toppics |
| 23:57.05 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !you |
| 23:57.05 | dpkg | dpkg is probably the base of the Debian package management system. It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993. dpkg is similar to RPM, as it is used to install, remove, and provide information about deb packages. dpkg itself is a low level tool; higher level tools, such as APT, are used to fetch packages from remote locations or deal with complex package relations. see also <apt-get>, <apt>, and <aptitude> |
| 23:57.08 | thingfish | !ops open your eyes please |
| 23:57.08 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !ask |
| 23:57.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS: thingfish complains about: open your eyes please |
| 23:57.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 23:57.57 | MetaPhaze_laptop | ok but where is a list of things i can ask you dumb bot |
| 23:58.10 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: please /msg the bot |
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| 23:58.54 | MetaPhaze_laptop | amphi tell it to tell me about compiling a kernel in this package distro |
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