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| 21:31.24 | Knorrie | HelmutG: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm |
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| 21:31.54 | stew | HelmutG: do you perhaps have ifrename and udev both competing to name your interfaces? |
| 21:31.54 | Demio | Hello, can someone help me please? I'm trying to install the pear package tidy |
| 21:32.02 | Demio | but it keeps saying it cant find libtidy |
| 21:32.03 | HelmutG | Knorrie: did I say udev refuses to use my persistent net rules? |
| 21:32.08 | Demio | I installed libtidy0 :S |
| 21:32.17 | stew | HelmutG: which version of udev do you have installed? |
| 21:32.17 | azeem | Demio: did you build from source? |
| 21:32.19 | HelmutG | stew: I don't ja |
| 21:32.19 | Knorrie | HelmutG: oh sorry i missed that |
| 21:32.30 | Demio | no azeem, all apt or dpkg |
| 21:32.35 | HelmutG | stew: I don't have ifrename and my keyboard is horrible |
| 21:32.53 | Demio | configure: error: Cannot find libtidy |
| 21:32.56 | azeem | Demio: run ldd on the tidy binary and see which libtidy it wants |
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| 21:33.15 | Demio | huh? |
| 21:33.17 | Max_ | Hello |
| 21:33.18 | Max_ | I installed PHP4 on Debian using "apt-get install php4 php4-common php4-msyql", but now it has not started. I don't know where the program would be installed, and where to start it from. Thanks. |
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| 21:33.56 | Demio | init.d? |
| 21:34.01 | Knorrie | Max_: php4 is not started, it's an interpreter, so you can start php4 once to interpret some source code |
| 21:34.18 | HelmutG | Knorrie: I am using the udev interface renaming. udev however ignores this |
| 21:34.21 | Demio | azeem, im not a guru hehe |
| 21:34.25 | stew | HelmutG: what version of udev? |
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| 21:34.28 | Max_ | PHP files are not executing. It is showing a download prompt instead of parsing the PHP code. |
| 21:34.31 | HelmutG | stew: currentte |
| 21:34.33 | Demio | I just wanted to use the php extension of tid |
| 21:34.36 | HelmutG | stew: current testing |
| 21:34.39 | Demio | max, you need to do php file.php |
| 21:34.47 | HelmutG | stew: 2.6.16-686-2 |
| 21:34.48 | Knorrie | Max_: ah, you're using a webserver? |
| 21:34.50 | Demio | #php file.php |
| 21:34.55 | Max_ | Knorrie: Yes. |
| 21:35.03 | Demio | then you need apaches php extension |
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| 21:35.18 | jengelh | !sid |
| 21:35.18 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 21:35.23 | azeem | Demio: ldd /usr/bin/tidy | grep not.found |
| 21:35.24 | Knorrie | Max_: then you need libapache-mod-php4 or the equivalent of apache2 |
| 21:35.26 | stew | HelmutG: do you haev the iproute package installed? |
| 21:35.50 | HelmutG | stew: yes |
| 21:35.52 | Demio | ldd: /usr/bin/tidy: No such file or directory |
| 21:36.25 | Knorrie | Max_: i bet apt-get install php4 did install some extra packages... |
| 21:36.30 | Demio | ok azeem |
| 21:36.36 | Demio | now i installed the apt-get tidy |
| 21:36.38 | azeem | Demio: then find out what the binary is called and where it is located and run ldd on that |
| 21:36.41 | Demio | i did your command, nothing happens |
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| 21:36.51 | azeem | so does it work now? |
| 21:36.59 | Knorrie | Max_: like php4-cli or php4-cgi or whatever was in the 'the following NEW packages will be installed' line |
| 21:37.06 | Demio | nope |
| 21:37.09 | HelmutG | is there anything wrong with: SUBSYSTEM="net", DRIVER="?*", SYSFS{address}="macaddr", NAME="eth0" ? |
| 21:37.13 | Demio | configure: error: Cannot find libtidy |
| 21:37.16 | Max_ | Knorrie: One moment |
| 21:37.24 | Demio | im starting to gt really annoyed |
| 21:37.34 | azeem | Demio: strace it |
| 21:37.43 | Max_ | !pastebin |
| 21:37.43 | Demio | something as simple as installing the tidylib is getting to my nerve hehe |
| 21:37.43 | dpkg | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:37.50 | Demio | strace it? |
| 21:37.51 | azeem | apt-get install strace; strace tidy 2> foo and pastebin that |
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| 21:37.56 | stew | HelmutG: mine is: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", SYSFS{address}=="00:0e:0c:72:7c:fb", NAME="eth0" |
| 21:38.04 | Max_ | Knorrie: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3252 |
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| 21:38.31 | simonrvn | stew: what does that do? |
| 21:38.54 | Knorrie | Max_: yes, but that's the output when you run the apt-get install a second time |
| 21:38.56 | HelmutG | stew: ok. |
| 21:39.00 | stew | simonrvn: makes that card get the anme "eth0" regardless of what order the cards are modprobbed in |
| 21:39.06 | simonrvn | first guess is that it assigns the NIc with that MACaddie to eth0 |
| 21:39.11 | simonrvn | ok |
| 21:39.15 | Demio | its executing strace tidy 2> foo |
| 21:39.27 | simonrvn | thanks :) |
| 21:39.29 | Knorrie | Max_: http://paste.debian.net/9678 |
| 21:39.30 | Demio | nothing appears to be happening tho |
| 21:39.37 | stew | simonrvn: as of udev .090 it attempts to statically name your cards so the names will never change again |
| 21:39.50 | azeem | Demio: do you get a prompt back or is it hanging? |
| 21:40.09 | Demio | hanging |
| 21:40.10 | Knorrie | Max_: so what you want is to configure apache to execute php scripts |
| 21:40.28 | Max_ | Knorrie: http://paste.debian.net/9679 |
| 21:40.42 | Max_ | Knorrie: I believe so... but I never had to do that on any other servers... :S |
| 21:40.52 | simonrvn | stew: aah, nice. 'bout time :) |
| 21:41.09 | Demio | i ctrl+ced it |
| 21:41.56 | Knorrie | Max_: libapache-mod-php4 should add a file to /etc/apache/conf.d with php-like AddHandler etc lines |
| 21:42.03 | Knorrie | Max_: did you restart apache? |
| 21:42.19 | Knorrie | to load the module? |
| 21:42.29 | Max_ | Knorrie: There is no /etc/apache/conf.d |
| 21:42.51 | Knorrie | Max_: or apache2 |
| 21:43.07 | Max_ | Knorrie: Neither work. |
| 21:43.12 | Max_ | Do you mean /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 21:43.13 | Max_ | "? |
| 21:43.17 | azeem | Demio: does foo have content? |
| 21:43.23 | enouf | Demio: you want utidylib, or libtidy ?? |
| 21:43.23 | azeem | Demio: if so, paste it on a pastebin |
| 21:43.40 | Knorrie | Max_: huh what version of debian are you using? |
| 21:43.41 | Demio | i want libtidy |
| 21:43.44 | Demio | i think |
| 21:43.45 | Max_ | Sarge |
| 21:43.50 | Demio | i want to install the tidy php extension |
| 21:43.52 | Demio | thats all |
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| 21:44.28 | Demio | yea, foo has content |
| 21:44.33 | Knorrie | Max_: apache 1.3 or apache 2? |
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| 21:44.38 | djcronos | Does anyone know what libXt.so.6 is? |
| 21:44.40 | azeem | Demio: well, does the extension work? |
| 21:44.48 | abrotman | djcronos: libXt .. duh :) |
| 21:44.51 | azeem | djcronos: an X11 library |
| 21:44.55 | enouf | Demio: would that be Perl perhaps or python ? |
| 21:44.59 | azeem | libxt6 |
| 21:45.00 | djcronos | abrotman - hah :) |
| 21:45.10 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libxt6 |
| 21:45.14 | djcronos | azeem - okay, that's what I thought. Frickin lame - I didn't want to install X on this machine |
| 21:45.16 | Demio | azeem, i cant install the extension |
| 21:45.21 | Demio | it throws an error |
| 21:45.26 | Demio | says it cant find libtidy |
| 21:45.37 | azeem | Demio: what's the extension's package name? |
| 21:45.41 | azeem | or are you installing it from source |
| 21:45.44 | HelmutG | stew: whatever I try: it does not work (I know this statement isn't helpfull.) |
| 21:45.54 | Demio | im installing it by |
| 21:45.57 | Demio | pear -v install tidy |
| 21:45.58 | enouf | Demio: Look at what returns for 'apt-cache search tidy;ib' <-exactly - that's not a typo |
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| 21:46.02 | HelmutG | stew: some combinations resultet in syntax errors recorded to /var/log/daemon |
| 21:46.09 | HelmutG | stew: other were silently ignored |
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| 21:46.17 | Knorrie | Max_: when there's a /etc/apache/ i assume apache 1.3, then.. did you install libapache-mod-php4? |
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| 21:46.52 | Hoxzer | how can I see what program is using my sound input? |
| 21:47.02 | Demio | when i do that cache thing i get a lot of stuff |
| 21:47.10 | Demio | what should i pay attention to? |
| 21:47.28 | HelmutG | stew: wait, case did matter, right? brb |
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| 21:47.48 | enouf | Demio: how about the PostgreSQL ?? I'm not that sure exactly "which" you need/want -- others should lookse |
| 21:48.05 | Demio | ok nm |
| 21:48.06 | Demio | i fixed it |
| 21:48.17 | Demio | i did apt-get install libtidy-dev |
| 21:48.18 | Demio | -_- |
| 21:48.25 | Demio | stupid error messages not being clear enough |
| 21:48.35 | azeem | heh |
| 21:48.53 | Demio | i thought it wanted libtidy, not libtidy dev |
| 21:48.57 | enouf | Demio: That was in that list from apt-cache -- libtidy-dev - HTML syntax checker and reformatter - development |
| 21:49.01 | Demio | and i googled it for 1h trying to find an answer |
| 21:49.09 | Demio | yea enouf |
| 21:49.10 | Demio | thanks :D |
| 21:49.14 | HelmutG | stew: thanks a lot. case did matter. |
| 21:49.14 | Demio | thanks all ^^ |
| 21:49.20 | enouf | Cool ^_^ |
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| 21:49.36 | Demio | yay, now i can proceed coding my little article publishing php app with tidy |
| 21:49.46 | HelmutG | stew: I'll switch terminals now. :-) |
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| 21:50.19 | Max_ | WTF? Damn Debian |
| 21:50.20 | Max_ | :| |
| 21:50.22 | Max_ | Why won't this work! |
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| 21:51.25 | enouf | Demio: Funny thing is -- My apt-cache command WAS a typo originally but using tidylib returned only 2 python related pkgs -- I have NO CLUE why using a ; in there worked! using an * did nothing to help |
| 21:51.36 | stew | Max_: do you have the libapache-mod-php4 package installed or the libapache2-modp-php4 package? |
| 21:51.45 | stew | Max_: and do you have apache or apahce2 packages installed? |
| 21:52.26 | sanrou | what is the syntax to find a package that contains xpm.h using apt-file? i did apt-file -s xpm.h, but no go... thanks |
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| 21:52.56 | Guerin | sanrou: man apt-file |
| 21:53.19 | enouf | Demio: Anyways 'apt-cache search libtidy' will yield that specific libtidy-dev pkg you needed |
| 21:53.28 | sanrou | alrighty, thanks... i just need a quick and dirty trick..hehe |
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| 22:01.06 | Demio | wtf |
| 22:01.13 | Demio | now pear installs fine the extension |
| 22:01.20 | Demio | but i cannot use any tidy functions on my php scripts |
| 22:01.21 | Demio | o.O |
| 22:01.31 | Demio | i lose at life :( |
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| 22:04.24 | Piet | could someone point me to a debian specific howto for orinoco-usb modules? |
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| 22:04.51 | Piet | and on how to get them working in the user space? |
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| 22:05.07 | Piet | i haven't been quite able to find anything |
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| 22:07.26 | Knorrie | Piet: what's an orinoco? |
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| 22:08.11 | enouf | sanrou : go here <http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages> and insert xpm.h into the "Search the contents of packages" filed, choose appropriate arch and release version |
| 22:08.14 | Piet | Knorrie: orinoco is a wlan chipset AFAIK |
| 22:09.19 | enouf | sanrou: you'll see (for an 'unstable' release search) usr/include/X11/xpm.h libdevel/libxpm-dev |
| 22:09.20 | enouf | usr/include/libAfterImage/xpm.h libdevel/libafterimage-dev |
| 22:09.47 | Knorrie | sanrou: apt-file search? |
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| 22:12.40 | enouf | Piet: try this perhaps http://wiki.ethereal.com/CaptureSetup/WLAN |
| 22:13.27 | Kiyoshi | I'm having a problem running X window manager: When I do XStart, my screen goes black and my monitor tells me there's no more signal from my computer. I saw somewhere that I should check my X configuration files, but when I try to access XF86Config-4 it tells me access is denied, even when I'm in root. Anyone know what's going on? (I've tried reinstalling: I removed all KDE/Gnome/X files and then reinstalled from Tasksel) |
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| 22:14.23 | enouf | Knorrie -- I tried that too (and many variations) -- I'm obviously not doing it correctly (the syntax) -- I think you'd need to use -s option (with URL) to let it search all the repositories, especially if you don;t have that/those pkgs installed |
| 22:14.33 | Piet | enouf: thanks, nut it seems the device does not even exist yet |
| 22:14.54 | Knorrie | enouf: did apt-file update? |
| 22:15.00 | enouf | Piet Ok :( |
| 22:15.14 | Piet | enouf: would you know how to go about creating this? |
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| 22:15.38 | enouf | Knorrie -- I haven't updated it -- I just now installed it (just for kicks to help others) |
| 22:15.42 | Demio | does anyone here know how to work with pear? |
| 22:15.55 | enouf | Piet: Not me - sorry ;-) |
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| 22:16.12 | Knorrie | enouf: apt-file update loads the lists etc... without that you wouldn't find anything |
| 22:16.16 | Piet | enouf: ok, thanks anyway |
| 22:16.29 | Piet | Demio: ask in #php once it's installed |
| 22:16.30 | enouf | Piet: Create an Orinoco USB device ?? |
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| 22:16.48 | enouf | Knorrie : ahhh ...Ok then |
| 22:16.56 | Piet | enouf: i may need to do this. |
| 22:17.08 | Eulex | http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html |
| 22:17.39 | Knorrie | Demio: apt-get install php4-pear; man pear |
| 22:18.40 | Knorrie | enouf: it's like editing your sources.list and expecting to install packages without doing an apt-get update :) |
| 22:19.47 | enouf | Knorrie : I'm finding that out as we speak ;) |
| 22:20.45 | enouf | Knorrie : For ex: after updating, I'm doing this '~$ apt-file -s /etc/apt/sources.list list xpm.h' which is hanging -- and now came back empty :( |
| 22:21.53 | marsje | can someone explain to me what I need to add to my sources.list to get one particular unstable package on my testing system? |
| 22:22.02 | Knorrie | enouf: apt-file search xpm.h |
| 22:22.15 | Ronin | marsje: backports |
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| 22:22.20 | Knorrie | enouf: gives me >10 hits |
| 22:22.21 | stew | marsje: /msg dpkg quick etch/sid mix |
| 22:22.27 | stew | Ronin: backports is for stable, not testing |
| 22:22.36 | Ronin | stew: my mistake, your correct |
| 22:22.37 | marsje | I'm on sarge |
| 22:22.45 | Ronin | marsje: you said testing system |
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| 22:22.55 | marsje | something that used to be sarge? |
| 22:22.57 | stew | marsje: oh, that's not testing, its stable, in that case, http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 22:23.08 | stew | marsje: what version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 22:23.14 | enouf | Knorrie : I'm doing a 'sudo updatedb' atm -- I'll run your's in a second to see what's up |
| 22:23.26 | marsje | stew: what command to se that? |
| 22:23.29 | marsje | see |
| 22:23.30 | Knorrie | enouf: updatedb has nothing to do with apt-file |
| 22:23.34 | stew | marsje: dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 22:23.42 | Adriel_BR | how can i speedup the subtitle with xine? |
| 22:23.55 | marsje | stew: 2.3.6-15 |
| 22:24.03 | enouf | Knorrie : I know - but it most certainly has to do with 'locate sources.list' |
| 22:24.12 | Knorrie | enouf: hehe |
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| 22:24.20 | stew | marsje: yes, that is testing AKA etch, not sarge, so /msg dpkg quick etch/sid mix |
| 22:24.37 | enouf | Knorrie : ditto |
| 22:24.48 | marsje | I'm still confused by debian's names/versions |
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| 22:25.26 | Knorrie | enouf: http://paste.debian.net/9680 |
| 22:25.44 | marsje | I'm installed sarge/testing, do apt-get upgrade/dis-upgrade... then what do I have? still testing? or stil sarge? |
| 22:25.57 | Knorrie | enouf: i only did an apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update |
| 22:26.28 | stoned | I have sarge/testing from a very long time ago, on my powerbook |
| 22:26.29 | Knorrie | marsje: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 22:26.52 | stoned | marsje, but sarge is now stable |
| 22:26.53 | marsje | Knorrie: read it, but don't understand it |
| 22:26.55 | enouf | Knorrie : That's a nice ;) I'm still waiting for mine to finish |
| 22:26.55 | gan0713 | Hi |
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| 22:27.03 | gan0713 | iam very new to the debian world |
| 22:27.20 | gan0713 | i am using openvz and using the debian on it |
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| 22:27.35 | marsje | stoned: but what do I have now? still sarge? or did my system change names by itself? |
| 22:27.44 | gan0713 | i have installed apache2 using apt-get install apache2 |
| 22:27.54 | gan0713 | with worker-mpm |
| 22:27.55 | stoned | marsje, the debian distro which is currently STABLE is calle sarge |
| 22:27.56 | enouf | Knorrie : That's what I did 'apt-et install apt-file' and then apt-file update |
| 22:28.10 | Knorrie | marsje: woody,sarge,etch are names that point to a specific release, stable & testing are names that shift everytime when a new release comes |
| 22:28.13 | enouf | Knorrie: Ok Results :) |
| 22:28.22 | gan0713 | alo i have installed the php using apt-get install php4 |
| 22:28.26 | stew | marsje: "testing" is like a symlink that used to point to sarge, but then in june of 2005 sarge was released, and "etch" was created as the new testing, so the "testing" "symlink" was moved to point to etch. so if your /etc/apt/sources.list were referring to sarge, you would have stayed with sarge and you would be running sarge, but it points to testing so you are now running etch |
| 22:28.33 | stoned | marsje, the version currently under testing (development) is called etch. When etch has no more release critical bugs, it will move into the stable brance |
| 22:28.48 | Knorrie | marsje: so when woody was stable, and sarge was testing, sarge got released and after that sarge was stable and etch was testing :) |
| 22:28.49 | marsje | stoned: I know what I get when I download it today, but the question is, I installed sarge/testing... but is my testing now called etch? or is my sarge now stable? |
| 22:28.51 | gan0713 | but still i am not able to view the .php pages... when i access the .php files it downloads |
| 22:29.23 | stew | marsje: look at /etc/apt/sources.list, do you see "etch" or "sarge" or "testing" or "stable"? |
| 22:29.25 | Kiyoshi | So, is anyone here particularly good at troubleshooting X window manager? Having a problem about loading it. |
| 22:29.26 | Knorrie | marsje: depends on the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:29.28 | gan0713 | do i want to install the php using source sar |
| 22:29.33 | gan0713 | *tar |
| 22:29.37 | marsje | ah ok....... |
| 22:29.39 | Knorrie | gan0713: no |
| 22:29.40 | stoned | marsje, you are running stable, there is not a good chance that you have sarge from last year |
| 22:29.41 | gan0713 | with apxs |
| 22:29.52 | enouf | Knorrie: Very nice indeed http://paste.debian.net/9681 |
| 22:30.09 | sparr | ive got a computer with a female serial port and a computer with a male serial port. i would like to run a terminal application on the latter and see the console output of the former. what kind of cable do i need? how many wires does it have? |
| 22:30.09 | Knorrie | enouf: \o/ |
| 22:30.17 | marsje | it says testing (sarge line is commented out) |
| 22:30.19 | gan0713 | how could i integrate apache with php any suggestion Knorrie? |
| 22:30.36 | Knorrie | gan0713: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 22:30.43 | Knorrie | gan0713: if you run apache 1.3 |
| 22:30.55 | stew | sparr: are you sure the femail port is really a serial port? |
| 22:30.56 | gan0713 | no its 2.0.54 |
| 22:31.01 | Knorrie | gan0713: or libapache2-mod-php4 if you have apache2 |
| 22:31.02 | sparr | stew: yes |
| 22:31.04 | stew | *female |
| 22:31.07 | marsje | stoned: seems like I have testing (now called etch) |
| 22:31.10 | stew | sparr: i've never ever seen that |
| 22:31.16 | sparr | well, i have :) |
| 22:31.17 | stoned | marsje, ok then |
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| 22:31.35 | stew | sparr: you need a cable which switches pin 2 and pin 3 |
| 22:31.35 | gan0713 | thanks Knorrie will try that... thanks :) |
| 22:31.50 | sparr | how many wires does the cable need? |
| 22:31.50 | marsje | so the answer to "what system are you runing?" is in sources.list? |
| 22:31.52 | stew | sparr: (assuming you are talking about rs232) |
| 22:31.55 | Knorrie | gan0713: libapache2-mod-php4 should provide extra apache configuration to enable php4, and the debconf interface will ask you to restart apache |
| 22:32.03 | sparr | the one i have to work with right now only has 5 wires |
| 22:32.15 | Adriel_BR | how can i speedup the subtitle with xine? |
| 22:32.16 | sparr | and which pins on each end would need to be connected? |
| 22:32.34 | stew | sparr: this cable is sometimes sold as a "null modem" cable, but if you got a null modem cable, you'd have to switch the gender on one side |
| 22:32.36 | gan0713 | ok... thank you very much Knorrie |
| 22:32.46 | sparr | heh, im not buying one :) |
| 22:32.58 | sparr | gonna make it, from whatever ive got handy |
| 22:33.35 | marsje | I think dpkg answers are rather cryptic.... would be nice if the humor was left out and English got in... |
| 22:33.49 | stew | sparr: wire all pins straight through except switch pins 2 and 3 (which are the send/receive pins) |
| 22:33.50 | Knorrie | marsje: :P |
| 22:33.56 | dondelelcaro | marsje: feel free to fix the factoids where they are unclear or suggest fixes. |
| 22:34.02 | marsje | "<dpkg> rumour has it, quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf..." WTF! |
| 22:34.21 | Ronin | no humor there |
| 22:34.24 | sparr | stew: if i could only wire 5 pins, which ones would they be? |
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| 22:35.06 | Knorrie | rumour != humour |
| 22:35.13 | marsje | :) |
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| 22:35.28 | stew | sparr: at least 2,3,5 which are send/recv/gnd i don't know which, but if i had to pick two i'd pick dtr and something else |
| 22:35.41 | marsje | anyway, I have no idea what those commands are supposed to do... any tutorial/faq online about this? |
| 22:36.29 | marsje | the thing is, I just want a webcam driver (source) |
| 22:36.32 | cafuego | marsje: generally the idea to mixing is "don't". |
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| 22:36.53 | gan0713 | Knorrie: installed successfully will play in before starting to learn seriously.... :) thank you |
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| 22:37.00 | marsje | cafuego: how do I get certain hardware working then? |
| 22:37.19 | stew | marsje: what hardware? |
| 22:37.23 | Knorrie | marsje: when you add the unstable deb-lines in sources.list, the default action for apt is to pick the newest version, so upgrade everything to unstable, and that's what you don't wanna do |
| 22:37.33 | marsje | cafuego: I need to compile a module, but make fails. so I want a real source package and try it with that... |
| 22:37.33 | Knorrie | gan0713: \o/ |
| 22:37.46 | stew | marsje: what error do you get? |
| 22:37.53 | cafuego | marsje: Traditionally you wouldn'y buy it unless you knew it was supported ;-) However, if there is a source driver in a newer debian, you can add a deb-src line in sources.list; then backport the driver. |
| 22:38.15 | marsje | I want a package (linux-uvc) that is just available in unstable... that's is the only thing I need |
| 22:38.16 | Knorrie | cafuego: mixing testing/unstable/experimental can be done, but stable/testing/etc is worse generally |
| 22:38.34 | stew | marsje: did you read the "quick etch/sid mix" factoid i told you about? |
| 22:38.41 | cafuego | knorrie: Yes, but just because it _can_ be done doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so. |
| 22:38.53 | Knorrie | cafuego: sure |
| 22:39.07 | Ronin | cafuego: only if you can fix it yourself WHEN it breaks :) |
| 22:39.08 | Knorrie | cafuego: but i want postfix 2.3 :P |
| 22:39.16 | marsje | stew: I read but did not understand if this is what I need/want/understand |
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| 22:39.20 | stew | !+info linux-uvc |
| 22:39.22 | dpkg | Package 'linux-uvc' does not exist. |
| 22:39.23 | cafuego | knorrie: That's what backports are for. |
| 22:39.28 | sparr | stew: so, ive got a serial mouse cable to take apart, and it only has pins 12348, that probably wont work? |
| 22:39.31 | stew | marsje: there is no such package as linux-uvc |
| 22:39.44 | stew | sparr: i dont' know, maybe ask #hardware |
| 22:39.58 | Knorrie | cafuego: backports.org in sarge are not better tested than packages in unstable |
| 22:40.11 | marsje | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/linux-uvc |
| 22:40.25 | cafuego | knorrie: That's why I do my _own_ backports. AT least that way you don't generally end up with broken depends. |
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| 22:40.37 | marsje | it's brand new.. |
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| 22:41.17 | stew | marsje: you have two options, follow the "quick etch/sid mix" factoid, or download the debs from packages.debian.org and install them with "dpkg -i /path/to/.deb" |
| 22:41.49 | marsje | stew: I think the last thing is what I want |
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| 22:42.03 | marsje | just want to try it, if it works, great, if it doesn't, I'll wait |
| 22:42.22 | Ronin | heh if it doesnt work odds are you broke it marsje :) |
| 22:42.39 | Knorrie | cafuego: i never had problems with depends till now, i use backports.org on some sarge servers (postfix,spamassasin) and create backports which aren't on bpo myself |
| 22:42.48 | teroedni | question: Do you really need all 13 debian cd justto install or does cd 2-13 just contains all the packages currently avaible to Debian |
| 22:42.55 | teroedni | Thanks for answers:) |
| 22:43.21 | stew | Ronin: i dunno that that is true since it was added to unstable for the first time yesterday |
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| 22:43.32 | marsje | stew: I don't see a .deb, but a .dsc |
| 22:43.38 | Blissex | teroedni: they are ordered by ''usefulness'' roughly. |
| 22:43.40 | stew | marsje: click on your arch |
| 22:43.45 | stew | marsje: like "i386" perhaps |
| 22:43.54 | Blissex | teroedni: so for most users CD N contains more useful stuff than CD N+1 |
| 22:44.25 | Blissex | teroedni: the 13 CDs contain all the >10,000 packages, most of which you will never need. |
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| 22:45.01 | marsje | stew: I see it now... thanks |
| 22:45.36 | teroedni | blissex: Thanks:) |
| 22:45.45 | Knorrie | teroedni: just download a netinstall cd (<100MB) |
| 22:46.06 | Blissex | teroedni: or download the first 3-4 usually that's enough. |
| 22:46.15 | Knorrie | teroedni: and the rest of what you want will be downloaded from one of the mirrors |
| 22:46.26 | Blissex | teroedni: you don't need any of the source CDs of course. |
| 22:46.35 | teroedni | nah ive got wireless so:/ i need to load a rt2570 so unfortunally netinst would not help But thanks for the tips:) |
| 22:47.06 | Blissex | teroedni: even just the first or the first 2 usually are good. |
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| 22:47.17 | stranger_stone | Hello. :) |
| 22:47.35 | teroedni | Blissex; Then i go for the 3 first :) Thanks again:) |
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| 22:47.47 | marsje | stew: I did dpkg -i linux-uvc-source_0.1.0-1_i386.deb, but now where is it? |
| 22:48.00 | Shadowcat | marsje: cd /usr/src |
| 22:48.13 | abrotman | supposed to use m-a for that? |
| 22:48.16 | abrotman | or not a module? |
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| 22:48.29 | Shadowcat | there's still a tarball in /usr/src |
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| 22:49.24 | marsje | Shadowcat: ah, a .bz2 file... |
| 22:49.31 | JordiGH | So, any idea how to use zeroconf in Konqueror? I'm reading something about Avahi in Debian because of legal issues. Any clue what I'm talking about? |
| 22:49.48 | stew | marsje: its in /usr/src, you would build it by install module-assitant and build-essential, then run m-a prepare ; m-a a-i linux-uvc |
| 22:50.01 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.11 | stew | marsje: you don't have to bother untarring it yourself or anything |
| 22:50.34 | abrotman | JordiGH: there's a replacement |
| 22:51.21 | JordiGH | I want to see which printers are available in my network. I thought zeroconf was the thing that would do it. Otherwise, what should I use? |
| 22:51.27 | abrotman | JordiGH: wait .. avahi is the replacment |
| 22:51.53 | JordiGH | avahi-daemon, that's the package? |
| 22:52.02 | abrotman | the bad one was Howl or something |
| 22:52.16 | marsje | stew: sure? |
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| 22:53.04 | JordiGH | enouf: Yep. How do I use it? I thought Konqui could be a good front-end. |
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| 22:54.34 | marsje | stew: seems like you're right... I wish debian had a manual explaining all these fine tools... |
| 22:55.10 | JordiGH | Documentation is like sex... oh, never mind, you've heard it before. |
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| 22:56.16 | Ronin | marsje: i bet they do |
| 22:56.33 | marsje | stew: m-a tried to build, but failed... http://mrcl.xs4all.nl/linux-uvc-source.buildlog.2.4.27-2-586tsc.1153868037 |
| 22:56.52 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:57.24 | Nick1 | anyone know what the newest kernel and x that will compile against glibc 2.1.3 is? |
| 22:57.39 | abrotman | Nick1: are you serious? |
| 22:57.44 | marsje | stew: this seems like the same error that I got when downloading the raw .c files and typing make |
| 22:58.15 | marsje | stew: was hoping a real debian package would Just Work |
| 22:58.35 | marsje | stew: maybe wrong gcc version (I have 3.3, 3.4, 4.0)? |
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| 22:59.08 | JordiGH | Hm, only the printer I specifically configured with CUPS is there. |
| 22:59.18 | JordiGH | And that's the one that according to lpq is currently "not ready". |
| 22:59.27 | Nick1 | abrotman deadly serious. |
| 22:59.36 | abrotman | Nick1: why would you need that? |
| 22:59.40 | enouf | JordiGH: Ifd you like the way Konq looks/acts with sidebar, you then "Settings" | Save Profile "...." (these can be a bit tricky to get correctly, so that it always opens up in the "View" that you like/want)) |
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| 22:59.51 | JordiGH | But my cubicle mates are humuliating me by sending print jobs to this printer, while I can't right now. |
| 22:59.52 | abrotman | i mean .. i think potato had 2.1 .. not even sure |
| 23:00.15 | Nick1 | well, I've got a rather hacked up system, and the last couple times i tried to upgrade glibc i hosed the whole os.. |
| 23:00.16 | Adriel_BR | how can i speedup a subtitle with the mplayer or xine? |
| 23:00.24 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.38 | JordiGH | enouf: When I click on the Home icon, Konqui opens up with that sidebar. If I click on the Konqui icon, it appears without. Works well for me. |
| 23:00.49 | abrotman | Nick1: this is a debian box? |
| 23:00.56 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.15 | Nick1 | abrotman: no, you're just the first one to communicate |
| 23:01.33 | streuner | heh |
| 23:01.35 | abrotman | Nick1: eh .. it's not a debian box? |
| 23:01.42 | abrotman | Nick1: probably the others were laughing too hard |
| 23:01.43 | JordiGH | enouf: I can see the windows boxes as Samba shares in smb:// |
| 23:02.03 | streuner | !pal abrotman |
| 23:02.04 | marsje | anyone understands make? what goes wrong here: http://mrcl.xs4all.nl/linux-uvc-source.buildlog.2.4.27-2-586tsc.1153868037 |
| 23:02.15 | Nick1 | abrotman if they knew what i was running they'd probably run scared. |
| 23:02.23 | abrotman | Nick1: RH4.2? |
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| 23:02.37 | streuner | Nick1: gentoo? |
| 23:02.45 | JordiGH | Slackware? |
| 23:02.49 | JordiGH | LFS? |
| 23:02.52 | abrotman | ygdrsassl? |
| 23:03.00 | abrotman | oh oh .. Corel Linux!!! |
| 23:03.06 | JordiGH | This is more fun than playing charades... |
| 23:03.06 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:03.20 | Nick1 | JordiGH: slackware on alpha. |
| 23:03.23 | streuner | distrowatch has many more, so don't make us guess all of them ... ;-) |
| 23:03.27 | JordiGH | I win! |
| 23:03.29 | JordiGH | !beer me |
| 23:03.31 | streuner | argh |
| 23:03.32 | abrotman | Nick1: debian runs on alphas |
| 23:03.34 | abrotman | and well |
| 23:03.47 | Nick1 | abrotman beg to disagree. |
| 23:03.57 | abrotman | Nick1: i have three in my office .. all run great |
| 23:04.00 | Nick1 | I have debian on my other two running alphas. |
| 23:04.02 | JordiGH | enouf: The one printer that does show is a samba printer... I know there's tons other... |
| 23:04.10 | abrotman | Nick1: anyways .. not hte point |
| 23:04.30 | abrotman | Nick1: if you use potato as a basis(last to have libc2.1) it had X3.3.6 and kernels 2.0.38 and 2.2.19 |
| 23:04.50 | Nick1 | seeing as i have 2.2.19.... |
| 23:05.00 | Nick1 | but x 4.0 |
| 23:05.15 | Nick1 | yeah, i have 2.6 on predator. |
| 23:05.19 | streuner | aren't alphas not expensive? |
| 23:05.23 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.25 | abrotman | streuner: not old ones |
| 23:05.42 | abrotman | streuner: ebay .. you can probably get a decent one for <$300 USD |
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| 23:05.52 | Nick1 | streuner: not when the people you buy them from don't realize what they are... |
| 23:05.53 | abrotman | well .. not decent .. but usable |
| 23:06.22 | streuner | compared to the same performance of x86? |
| 23:06.30 | Nick1 | abrotman: my latest one is a digital server 3000 with a 400 164... |
| 23:06.36 | JordiGH | enouf: Oh, I'm sure I do. We have the most insecure network setup here. F'rinstance, I just moved a folder of scanned books from a network share I found and placed it in my own home directory. I'm eagerly waiting to see if emails will fly over this or not. |
| 23:06.41 | abrotman | streuner: http://cgi.ebay.com/DEC-ALPHASTATION-500-333mhz-256mb-Alpha-nice_W0QQitemZ180010578274QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:06.51 | streuner | well, i get for 300 bucks a new AMD 2000 at least... |
| 23:07.02 | abrotman | streuner: no .. but that's not the point!! |
| 23:07.23 | abrotman | streuner: that one would easily run as a workstation for tinkering/porting |
| 23:07.38 | JordiGH | 700 megs of scanned bootleg maths books... I hope they had a backup. |
| 23:07.52 | Nick1 | plus dec hardware runs better and smoother than any pee-cee hardware. |
| 23:08.05 | abrotman | !lart HPQ |
| 23:08.11 | abrotman | eh .. timely |
| 23:09.03 | Nick1 | abrotman last time i compiled a new glibc.... i hosed my install *BAD* |
| 23:09.04 | abrotman | Nick1: i'd guess you *might* be able to get a 2.4 on it .. but the bigger issue might be the toolchain |
| 23:09.16 | JordiGH | "Who stole my scanned books?" This'll be like that time they complained after I deleted porn from a public computer. |
| 23:09.17 | abrotman | Nick1: which gcc? |
| 23:10.05 | Nick1 | abrotman 3.3.4 |
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| 23:10.29 | abrotman | Nick1: i'd think you'd be okay for a 2.4 .. but it's been a while |
| 23:10.38 | streuner | abrotman: the right performance ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/DEC-Alpha-GS320-16-x-1-GHz-proc-Alphaserver-GS-320_W0QQitemZ260012025325QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1479QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:10.52 | Nick1 | ok... |
| 23:11.00 | killown | debian to run in pc pentium 233 mmx 48 Mb ram ? |
| 23:11.07 | abrotman | streuner: too big |
| 23:11.11 | abrotman | killown: yes |
| 23:11.19 | Nick1 | i wish i could get documentation/changes somewhere, so i could see if i have adequate tools... |
| 23:11.35 | JordiGH | killown: A bit low on the ram, perhaps, but that's exactly the hardware I have in my home box (Sophia) and it works great. |
| 23:11.44 | streuner | killown: yes |
| 23:12.04 | Nick1 | killown: my alpha'd eat that. |
| 23:12.17 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:12.24 | JordiGH | killown: Ram is dirt cheap, though. 10 USD should get you 100 megs of ram and you could get X up and comfy, even with KDE (which is what I have in Sophia too). |
| 23:12.29 | enouf | killown: don't add a DE like GNOME or KDE witht that little RAM |
| 23:12.37 | abrotman | JordiGH: it might not support more than 48MB |
| 23:12.54 | killown | enouf ok I go to install icewm |
| 23:12.54 | Nick1 | abrotman my problem with debian whas it wouldn't run either of my vid cards on my alphas.. |
| 23:12.56 | abrotman | could be a ... Packard Bell |
| 23:13.10 | streuner | killown: http://weda.mine.nu/phpsysinfo/ - 64 MB RAM and WinChip 233 |
| 23:13.19 | JordiGH | Could be... |
| 23:13.24 | abrotman | Nick1: the tga cards? |
| 23:13.27 | enouf | killown: Atta killer |
| 23:13.32 | enouf | :) |
| 23:13.32 | killown | hehehe |
| 23:14.04 | Nick1 | abauer: s3 trio in the server 3000 firegl 3000 pro in the lx164.. |
| 23:14.14 | abrotman | dude .. s3 is crap .. toss it :) |
| 23:14.27 | abrotman | i can't remember the last time i got an s3 trio working correctly in X4 |
| 23:14.34 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 23:14.34 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 23:14.36 | JordiGH | X4? |
| 23:14.43 | abrotman | XFree86 4.x |
| 23:14.44 | inc|freaky | is there anywhere a tutorial how to setup php5 with debian etch ? |
| 23:14.48 | inc|freaky | and apache? |
| 23:14.49 | inc|freaky | 1.3 |
| 23:14.52 | abrotman | inc|freaky: for apache1 or 2? |
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| 23:15.02 | abrotman | inc|freaky: apt-get install libapache-mod-php5 |
| 23:15.10 | inc|freaky | abrotman: it doesnt work out of the box |
| 23:15.24 | abrotman | inc|freaky: do you have other versions of PHP installed? |
| 23:15.28 | killown | thanks all |
| 23:15.31 | inc|freaky | i had 4 installed |
| 23:15.36 | Nick1 | abrotman: i've got 4.x |
| 23:15.36 | abrotman | inc|freaky: what's wrong that it doesn't work? |
| 23:15.37 | inc|freaky | it automatically removed libapache-mod-php4 |
| 23:15.45 | inc|freaky | if i knew, i wouldnt be here ;D |
| 23:15.51 | abrotman | Nick1: i gave up on s3 cards .. use them in text-only servers or crap windows boxes |
| 23:15.55 | inc|freaky | or i wouldnt be asking |
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| 23:16.02 | abrotman | inc|freaky: what happens when you use your browser ? |
| 23:16.11 | inc|freaky | my browser tries to download |
| 23:16.16 | Nick1 | abrotman: btw, the s3 in on the board in the server 3000 |
| 23:16.25 | abrotman | inc|freaky: clear the cache .. restart the browser |
| 23:16.31 | abrotman | Nick1: that totally sucks |
| 23:16.50 | inc|freaky | abrotman: still doing the same |
| 23:16.57 | Nick1 | abrotman: i know where there's a second firegl 3000 pro.... |
| 23:17.07 | abrotman | inc|freaky: paste your /etc/apache/httpd.conf or whatever it is somewhere |
| 23:17.08 | abrotman | !paster |
| 23:17.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 23:17.15 | abrotman | Nick1: do those work better? |
| 23:17.52 | Dewi | pastebin is also a place to paste all your passwords... if you don't mind me using your computer to download pornography |
| 23:18.19 | inc|freaky | abrotman: k one moment |
| 23:18.30 | Nick1 | abrotman i've had them running, but there is wierdness |
| 23:18.40 | abrotman | Nick1: using fb or vesa or what? |
| 23:18.47 | Nick1 | abrotman: glint driver. |
| 23:18.55 | abrotman | ah ... |
| 23:19.28 | Nick1 | abrotman there's infact a setting for the driver specifically for the fgl3kpro. |
| 23:19.30 | abrotman | i'm sure there's lots of weirdness with X on an alpha :) |
| 23:19.50 | abrotman | Option "FireGL3000" "boolean" ? |
| 23:20.01 | inc|freaky | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/100249 |
| 23:20.05 | sparr | I have a female DB9 connector with wires for holes 2 3 4 5 7. Can I make a null modem cable out of that? |
| 23:20.23 | abrotman | ask google or #hardware |
| 23:20.34 | Nick1 | abrotman something like that.. |
| 23:20.49 | Sebo | Hi!! I've got debian GNU/Linux with LILO bootloader and I'd like to swich to GRUB. Can I do so by typing `# apt-get install grub` or it will not be such easy :P |
| 23:21.24 | abrotman | inc|freaky: somewhere .. there's a list of modules loaded .. can you fidn it ? |
| 23:21.29 | abrotman | Sebo: should work |
| 23:21.31 | inc|freaky | abrotman: yea, wait |
| 23:21.48 | Sebo | Ok So I have to try it :] |
| 23:21.51 | JordiGH | Sebo: it should be... ocasionally debconf gets confused about where your kernel and partitions are, but it's relatively rare. |
| 23:22.00 | Nick1 | abrotman: i've run debian 3.0, and netbsd on alpha as well. |
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| 23:22.09 | Nick1 | abrotman redhat fails to boot. |
| 23:22.17 | abrotman | Nick1: the ones i have at work (no X) run debian 3.1 |
| 23:22.29 | inc|freaky | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/100256 |
| 23:22.41 | Nick1 | abrotman well, seeing as this is the machine next to my bed.... i want X |
| 23:22.58 | abrotman | Nick1: ah .. |
| 23:23.04 | Nick1 | abrotman plus i have a 21 inch monitor on it... |
| 23:23.09 | abrotman | next to your bed? |
| 23:23.14 | Nick1 | so the pr0n will be very lifelike. |
| 23:23.20 | abrotman | your wife must hate you |
| 23:23.33 | Nick1 | abrotman my primary machine always goes next to my bed. |
| 23:23.45 | abrotman | did pastebin.ca just die? |
| 23:23.55 | abrotman | ah . .finally |
| 23:24.02 | Nick1 | no, no wife. p[lus there is no place to sit in the house... just the bed.. |
| 23:24.11 | abrotman | inc|freaky: ever think it might be a good idea to load the php5 module? |
| 23:24.22 | inc|freaky | i just did it, it still doesnt work |
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| 23:24.35 | inc|freaky | master:/usr/share/doc/horde3# apache-modconf apache enable mod_php5 |
| 23:24.35 | inc|freaky | Replacing config file /etc/apache/modules.conf with new version |
| 23:24.41 | abrotman | inc|freaky: you still have to clear the cache .. close the browser .. restart apache ... check again |
| 23:24.42 | inc|freaky | and restarted |
| 23:24.54 | inc|freaky | yes, i did that - restarted apache, closed browser - opened it |
| 23:24.55 | inc|freaky | tried |
| 23:25.00 | JordiGH | wtf... the printer suddenly works. I must have invoked the proper incantations by mistake. |
| 23:25.00 | inc|freaky | - its trying to download |
| 23:25.08 | abrotman | inc|freaky: with new version .. from wherE? |
| 23:25.16 | Nick1 | abrotman: my laptop is just not cutting it anymore... nd i have this big healthy alpha... |
| 23:25.21 | inc|freaky | about what version are you talking now? |
| 23:25.46 | abrotman | <inc|freaky> Replacing config file /etc/apache/modules.conf with new version |
| 23:25.48 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 23:25.52 | abrotman | i didn't see the line above |
| 23:25.56 | inc|freaky | abrotman: ;D |
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| 23:27.03 | inc|freaky | LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp5.so <-- it added this line |
| 23:27.03 | spatel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:27.09 | Cooner750 | How well can Debian run on a P233 with just ejabberd installed, no GUI? |
| 23:27.11 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.24 | abrotman | Cooner750: ejabberd is a RAM hog .. jabber.org has 4GB of RAM |
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| 23:27.42 | Cooner750 | Is there anyway I can run a Jabber server on an old machine? |
| 23:27.45 | inc|freaky | abrotman: can i do anything else? |
| 23:27.50 | marsje | when I do make dep in /usr/src/linux I get: "make: *** arch/i386/boot: No such file or directory. Stop." |
| 23:27.52 | abrotman | inc|freaky: moment .. i'm looking |
| 23:27.54 | marsje | make: *** [archdep] Error 2" |
| 23:27.56 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.59 | inc|freaky | abrotman: oki, thankyou very much :) |
| 23:28.17 | abrotman | inc|freaky: cat /etc/apache/httpd.conf | grep php .. it's still uncommented right? |
| 23:28.20 | abrotman | !uuoc me |
| 23:28.32 | marsje | and: linux -> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 23:28.43 | inc|freaky | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 23:28.43 | inc|freaky | AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps |
| 23:28.51 | inc|freaky | these two are not commented out |
| 23:28.51 | JordiGH | enouf: Eh? which command? Did you /msg me? |
| 23:29.12 | JordiGH | Hm, maybe I should sacrifice a herring intead of a chicken instead next time. |
| 23:29.15 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.51 | abrotman | inc|freaky: it's not just you :) |
| 23:30.03 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.07 | inc|freaky | sorry ill wait ;D |
| 23:30.12 | killown | The Debian search engine has been disabled for now. We're working on it. ???????????// |
| 23:30.33 | abrotman | inc|freaky: no .. i mean .. i installed them all .. it's doing it to me too |
| 23:30.53 | inc|freaky | oh ok ;) |
| 23:30.55 | JordiGH | killown: You can use teh Google in the meantime... |
| 23:31.02 | enouf | killown: ...and? |
| 23:31.06 | ttyfscker | somebody tell me why my sed and vim arent using the substitution command right |
| 23:31.18 | inc|freaky | so you have any idea what i can do about it? |
| 23:31.19 | killown | JordiGH... I need libglade.so.0 |
| 23:31.26 | enouf | killown: It's still searchable -- whatcha need? |
| 23:31.31 | ttyfscker | in vim when i try :s/phrase1/phrase2/g it says phrase1 was not found. when im setting looking right at it |
| 23:31.33 | JordiGH | That looks familiar... |
| 23:32.00 | ttyfscker | when i try to sed -e 's/phrase1/phrase2/g' file it doesnt write any changes either |
| 23:32.20 | ttyfscker | and yes i have the write permissions on the destination file |
| 23:32.41 | abrotman | inc|freaky: eh .. it didn't enable php5 for me |
| 23:33.02 | inc|freaky | yea i had to do it manually, too but its still not working -. is it working for oyu? |
| 23:33.24 | enouf | killown: apt-cache search libglade* |
| 23:33.29 | abrotman | inc|freaky: i'm working :) |
| 23:33.30 | killown | enouf ok |
| 23:34.04 | inc|freaky | abrotman: oh ok ;) its 1:34 AM here ... and i need to go to bed soon cuz i have shcool tomorrow but i want to get this working :\ |
| 23:34.17 | abrotman | inc|freaky: no .. i'm not working working .. i'm working on it :) |
| 23:34.25 | inc|freaky | abrotman: lol ok ;p |
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| 23:34.45 | abrotman | inc|freaky: and now it's working for me |
| 23:34.53 | inc|freaky | what did you do? |
| 23:35.09 | abrotman | inc|freaky: paste your /etc/apache/modules.conf |
| 23:35.45 | inc|freaky | !pasting |
| 23:35.52 | inc|freaky | mh |
| 23:36.39 | abrotman | !paster |
| 23:36.39 | dpkg | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 23:36.42 | inc|freaky | http://pastebin.ca/100271 |
| 23:36.49 | abrotman | !pasting is <reply> see paster |
| 23:36.49 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 23:37.14 | abrotman | inc|freaky: try another browser |
| 23:37.15 | inc|freaky | ;D |
| 23:37.17 | enouf | killown: see http://channels.debian.net/paste/3255 |
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| 23:37.24 | abrotman | inc|freaky: or another machine |
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| 23:37.49 | abrotman | inc|freaky: wait .. dpkg -l apache .. get anything? |
| 23:37.55 | inc|freaky | uh, im using IE7 and it works - this is the first time something works with IE and not with firefox :D |
| 23:38.05 | abrotman | inc|freaky: FF is holding the cache somewhere |
| 23:38.10 | abrotman | inc|freaky: so it's all good ? |
| 23:38.15 | JordiGH | Wtf...? http://www.killbillsbrowser.com |
| 23:38.39 | killown | enouf... thanks |
| 23:38.47 | inc|freaky | abrotman: i get this: http://pastebin.ca/100274 |
| 23:39.01 | enouf | killown: ;- |
| 23:39.04 | inc|freaky | no it should be working with firefox |
| 23:39.05 | abrotman | inc|freaky: so it works from IE but not FF ? |
| 23:39.10 | inc|freaky | right |
| 23:39.11 | enouf | :-) |
| 23:39.19 | JordiGH | Now I'm interested. What's this about IE doing something Firefox can't? Best way to get support from GNU/Linux is by insulting free software. :-) |
| 23:39.31 | abrotman | inc|freaky: really .. go into the settings. .. clear RAM and DISK .. shut it down .. start the browser again .. if it fails .. hit shift+reload |
| 23:39.58 | inc|freaky | how do i clear disk and RAM? |
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| 23:40.20 | Dahgol | what's the difference betwen sun's solaris and linux? |
| 23:40.21 | inc|freaky | izts working now |
| 23:40.24 | inc|freaky | i cleared the cache |
| 23:40.26 | inc|freaky | thankyou very much :DD |
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| 23:41.19 | Dewi | Dahgol: lots of things |
| 23:41.24 | JordiGH | Dahgol: Everything. Nothing. Why? |
| 23:41.36 | abrotman | inc|freaky: have a nice evening |
| 23:41.56 | inc|freaky | thankyou :) |
| 23:42.04 | inc|freaky | but i just found it - its still not working - i was trying |
| 23:42.22 | Dahgol | JordiGH: just curious |
| 23:42.30 | inc|freaky | to install horde3 now it said that the configuration thigny is disabled it tries downloading phpmyadmin on both, IE and FF |
| 23:42.30 | abrotman | inc|freaky: make up your mind! |
| 23:42.32 | JordiGH | I'm uneducated. Is Solaris different from SunOS? Is either one of them free? |
| 23:42.48 | inc|freaky | abrotman: http://freakyy.de/phpmyadmin |
| 23:42.49 | abrotman | yes and no |
| 23:43.02 | Nick1 | sunos became solaris at about release 4.1.3.... |
| 23:43.04 | JordiGH | I think I've sshed into some machines with Solaris a couple of times, and boy, I sure miss bash when I do. |
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| 23:43.21 | abrotman | inc|freaky: eh .. try going to the actual file .. not just the dir |
| 23:43.47 | inc|freaky | "unknown filetype" |
| 23:43.48 | Nick1 | JordiGH: this is why i compile bash or download binaries on all my sparcs that don't run linux.. |
| 23:43.50 | abrotman | JordiGH: last Solaris i used was 7 or 8 .. and it will still display a SunOS version .. but it was called solaris |
| 23:43.55 | inc|freaky | and ztries to donwload |
| 23:44.17 | abrotman | inc|freaky: it just worked! |
| 23:44.21 | inc|freaky | for you? |
| 23:44.24 | inc|freaky | on my website? |
| 23:44.48 | JordiGH | Nick1: I think I tried compiling bash for OpenBSD once... couldn't get it working. :-/ And the problems compound, since different machines in my network use different versions of OpenBSD, so it all gets kinda screwey when I hop around the network. |
| 23:45.09 | abrotman | inc|freaky: no .. for you! |
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| 23:45.22 | inc|freaky | it seems like it doesnt |
| 23:45.32 | inc|freaky | i dont know - why that didnt work before |
| 23:45.35 | abrotman | you just had it! |
| 23:45.53 | marsje | night all |
| 23:45.57 | abrotman | inc|freaky: ok .. let's go back .. first .. paste your httpd.conf and modules.conf and your conf.d/php5.conf |
| 23:45.58 | inc|freaky | goodnite :) |
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| 23:46.25 | vinay | with mutt I have a bunch of Maildir/ style folders in a single "root" folder... im trying to set this up so i can access it over imap through dovecot.. when i give dovecot my "root" mail folder, it turns it into a maildir and ignores the subfolders? |
| 23:46.35 | enouf | abrotman: Does Solaris only run on SPARC ? or am I ignorant |
| 23:46.41 | abrotman | why does my boss think pwd is an abbreviation for password ? |
| 23:46.43 | bit0 | enouf, no |
| 23:46.49 | abrotman | enouf: nope .. runs on x86 too |
| 23:46.51 | bit0 | enouf, i386 also |
| 23:46.52 | inc|freaky | oh wait - its probably - i know why - that site is apache-ssl i have to load the module there too, one moment |
| 23:46.54 | abrotman | i think it ran on PPC for a bit too |
| 23:46.59 | abrotman | inc|freaky: darn you! |
| 23:46.59 | bit0 | too :/ |
| 23:47.04 | inc|freaky | hehe ;o) |
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| 23:47.20 | inc|freaky | sorry (o: |
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| 23:48.10 | JordiGH | Print working directory? I've never thought of what it could really mean until now. |
| 23:48.27 | Piet | abrotman: working in redmond? |
| 23:48.32 | abrotman | me? |
| 23:48.35 | abrotman | should i be? |
| 23:48.37 | enouf | abrotman: bit0: thanks for the info |
| 23:48.40 | abrotman | i would though! |
| 23:49.00 | inc|freaky | its working :DD thank you very much for your help abrotman ;D |
| 23:49.06 | abrotman | inc|freaky: enjoy! |
| 23:49.13 | inc|freaky | thanks ;) |
| 23:49.16 | abrotman | now you can sleep in peace! |
| 23:49.28 | Piet | it actually stands for "proprietary WINE Distribution" |
| 23:49.34 | inc|freaky | yea hehe ;D |
| 23:49.40 | abrotman | Piet: huh ? |
| 23:49.50 | abrotman | Piet: oh .. my boss |
| 23:49.55 | abrotman | Piet: no .. just uneducated |
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| 23:50.11 | Piet | "publish working drafts" |
| 23:50.29 | inc|freaky | good night all ;D |
| 23:50.32 | JordiGH | abrotman: Wait, did you say you *would* work at Redmond? |
| 23:50.43 | abrotman | JordiGH: the city .. yes |
| 23:50.48 | abrotman | JordiGH: MS is not the only company there |
| 23:51.10 | Piet | of course, ignore the NDA, it's not worth the paper its written on |
| 23:51.18 | sparr | how can i identify which serial ports are available? |
| 23:51.39 | JordiGH | I can't help imagining that the entire city must be horribly subverted... Remdond must be like R'yleh.. |
| 23:52.30 | pipeline | You're thinking of Armonk. |
| 23:53.03 | Piet | well. a boss |
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| 23:53.26 | JordiGH | Bgates ftaghn! Bgates ftaghn! |
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| 23:56.29 | aarkerio | Hi! I'm WindowMaker, when I use XMMS I can hear flash player sound and vice versa, somebodie has found some solution? |
| 23:56.49 | pipeline | Your question makes no sense. |
| 23:56.49 | aarkerio | sorry, I'm USING windowmaker |
| 23:57.13 | JordiGH | Which flash player? Gnash? |
| 23:57.15 | aarkerio | I mean, I can't |
| 23:57.26 | abrotman | pipeline: he's using wmaker .. when xmms is running .. he can't hear flash and other annoying sounds |
| 23:57.36 | JordiGH | Y'know... this is going to work out if you. |
| 23:57.37 | aarkerio | JordiGH, I'm serious |
| 23:58.04 | JordiGH | Ah, never mind. I was just about to pick on your blankos when I made one myself. Call the irony police. |
| 23:58.05 | aarkerio | (the english is not my forte) |
| 23:58.11 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:58.11 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:58.46 | JordiGH | aarkerio: I was serious too. I was wondering which flash player you were using. Gnash is one possible flash player. |
| 23:58.49 | pipeline | aarkerio, abrotman's translation made it make sense. Your problem is that you're using OSS. Either set up esd or use ALSA. |
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| 23:59.38 | aarkerio | well I have the OSS emulation kernel module |
| 23:59.50 | aarkerio | it this a bad idea? |