| 00:00.31 | g333k | Emiml, ;$ I knew that, what a stupid question |
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| 00:01.28 | xinming | hmm, /msg dpkg win32codecs doesn't tell me where the url for codecs is, any suggestion? |
| 00:02.21 | abrotman | !w32codecs |
| 00:02.22 | dpkg | w32codecs is, like, a package that is not in Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular (but proprietary) multimedia formats, such as AVI, realmedia, and windows media. Ask me about <marillat> or <debian-multimedia> for more information on how to get support for these formats in debian. |
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| 00:02.54 | lontra | xinming: ask dpkg about marillat |
| 00:03.01 | g333k | it is a little bit weird, my Box has 2 ethernet cards, a 3com (ISA) and a PCI, I'm connected to internet with the pci card, but lshw just list in the "network" section the isa card, why? |
| 00:03.01 | xinming | lontra: thanks |
| 00:03.15 | pipeline | g333k: Throw away the ISA card. |
| 00:03.17 | lontra | xinming: add that to sources.lst and then install w32codecs from marillat |
| 00:03.26 | pipeline | g333k: ISA cards make your CPU grind to a halt. |
| 00:03.27 | g333k | pipeline, lol |
| 00:03.45 | pipeline | g333k: An ISA ethernet card can keep up with 100 mbit, no problem, but it'll slow your CPU down to 386 speeds while it does it :P |
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| 00:03.55 | g333k | pipeline, I'm, tired today to go and buy a pci card, I need to do the firewall today |
| 00:03.59 | De_mon | hehehe |
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| 00:04.10 | pipeline | g333k: Ehh, ebay a card: You can get an Intel or 3com for five bucks. |
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| 00:04.29 | g333k | pipeline, I know that.. but I'm in South America :p |
| 00:04.38 | g333k | pipeline, it will be here next week |
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| 00:05.07 | g333k | pipeline, there's a store about 5 miles from my house, but I'm lazy |
| 00:05.16 | abrotman | so that's our problem? :) |
| 00:05.26 | Maulkin | g333k: you really don't want to be using ISA. |
| 00:05.44 | abrotman | i was wondering where he go to |
| 00:05.48 | g333k | abrotman, the problem is what I said in the first sentence |
| 00:05.50 | abrotman | got to |
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| 00:07.30 | g333k | abrotman, Maulkin , I got it because 3 months ago I was playing with a 486, so I went to the PCs cementery and got it, now I'm playin with the P1, and to be a firewall I need 2 ethernet cards, So I take it out from thr 486 and put it in the P1 |
| 00:07.33 | g333k | voila! |
| 00:07.48 | abrotman | voila == torture ? |
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| 00:08.32 | g333k | it is a little bit weird, my Box has 2 ethernet cards, a 3com (ISA) and a PCI, I'm connected to internet with the pci card, but lshw just list in the "network" section the isa card, why? |
| 00:08.36 | g333k | this was my question |
| 00:09.43 | g333k | abrotman, how did you connect your network to your Linux firewall Box? |
| 00:10.04 | abrotman | with a cable |
| 00:10.11 | lontra | he he |
| 00:10.12 | g333k | abrotman, lol |
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| 00:10.20 | lontra | !lol |
| 00:10.21 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 00:10.21 | g333k | abrotman, funny you eh! |
| 00:10.48 | g333k | lontra, oh come on what a mood! |
| 00:11.02 | g333k | abrotman, I mean the way you connect them |
| 00:11.07 | abrotman | g333k: pci cards |
| 00:11.30 | g333k | abrotman, switch to firewall and firewall to router? |
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| 00:11.59 | abrotman | eh ... |
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| 00:14.30 | carlito | i installed on my box apache2-mpm-worker after that my php webpage dont work, only it download the *.php file any help? |
| 00:14.47 | abrotman | did you install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 00:15.11 | carlito | it may installed automatikly when i installed apache2-mpm-worker |
| 00:15.21 | carlito | and now i removed tham all cose i use php5 |
| 00:15.25 | carlito | and still dont work |
| 00:15.47 | Nurbs | .oO( ? ) |
| 00:15.57 | abrotman | did you install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 00:16.00 | carlito | yes |
| 00:16.12 | abrotman | and it's enabled ? |
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| 00:16.27 | carlito | enabled how? |
| 00:16.37 | Nurbs | a2enmod php5 |
| 00:16.39 | abrotman | a2enmod |
| 00:16.45 | carlito | yes |
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| 00:16.57 | carlito | it exist |
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| 00:17.20 | abrotman | and the AddType extension is setup somewhere ? |
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| 00:17.46 | carlito | o dont know |
| 00:17.55 | abrotman | o check |
| 00:17.59 | carlito | how? |
| 00:18.04 | Rug | stupid question; how do I run 2 commands sequentially? (ie sleep 5s & <command 2> ) |
| 00:18.08 | abrotman | in the apache config files |
| 00:18.10 | carlito | i didnt tuch AddType extension |
| 00:18.13 | Fluten | when i run fsck with the find bad block option and make no changes options enabled, it gives me a warning saying that i can severely damage the filesystem. can just running fsck do this? |
| 00:18.14 | abrotman | Rug: blah && blah |
| 00:18.33 | Rug | but I thought one "&" made it run regardless |
| 00:18.34 | abrotman | Rug: as long as the first command executes correctly .. the second will run |
| 00:18.45 | abrotman | a ";" will do that |
| 00:18.56 | Rug | abrotman: try this: sleep 5s ls -al |
| 00:19.00 | abrotman | a single & will put it in the background |
| 00:19.18 | Rug | fudge, you are right... my bad |
| 00:19.24 | abrotman | fudge indeed |
| 00:19.33 | Rug | thanks verry much |
| 00:19.41 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 00:19.59 | Rug | WooHoo, one last step to fluxbox perfection! |
| 00:20.07 | tuv | it's getting unusally quiet in this channel |
| 00:20.10 | abrotman | apt-get install fluxbox ? |
| 00:20.16 | Rug | abrotman: nope |
| 00:20.16 | abrotman | tuv: it was a nice day in .us |
| 00:20.32 | Rug | compiled from source! |
| 00:20.34 | abrotman | but since every person i was supposed to hang out with disappeared .. i stayed indoors |
| 00:20.44 | abrotman | i smell |
| 00:21.13 | tuv | :D |
| 00:21.46 | abrotman | i had two different people ask me to go to the phillies game .. both went poof .. oh well |
| 00:22.09 | carlito | abrotman: dit you mean AddType application? |
| 00:22.27 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:22.35 | carlito | it seems to be good |
| 00:22.40 | abrotman | AddType application/x-http-php .php or something like that |
| 00:22.48 | carlito | yes it is installed |
| 00:22.55 | carlito | and dont work |
| 00:22.56 | abrotman | and you've restarted apache? |
| 00:23.00 | carlito | yes |
| 00:23.04 | abrotman | !depends libapache2-mod-php5 etch |
| 00:23.09 | dpkg | libapache2-mod-php5: depends on libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcomerr2 (>= 1.33-3), libdb4.3 (>= 4.3.28-1), libgdbm3, libkrb53 (>= 1.4.2), libpcre3 (>= 4.5), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8b-1), libxml2 (>= 2.6.24), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), mime-support (>= 2.03-1), apache2-mpm-prefork (>> 2.0.52), php5-common (= 5.1.4-0.1), libmagic1 |
| 00:23.18 | abrotman | carlito: any errors in the logs ? |
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| 00:25.11 | MiK[3]Zz | hi all |
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| 00:25.20 | MiK[3]Zz | where apt-get stores packages? |
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| 00:25.38 | abrotman | /var/cache/apt/archive/ |
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| 00:27.40 | carlito | abrotman: [Sun Aug 13 02:09:05 2006] [error] [client 82.114.73.166] File does not exist: /home/... some errors liek this |
| 00:28.16 | abrotman | eh .. i don't think that counts |
| 00:28.33 | abrotman | carlito: on your browser .. clear the cache .. restart the browser .. try again |
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| 00:29.47 | carlito | still dont work |
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| 00:30.39 | dureyes | on my sources.list should it say stable or Sarge? |
| 00:30.51 | tarzeau | dureyes: doesn't matter until december 2006 |
| 00:31.02 | tarzeau | dureyes: it'll then change to etch though |
| 00:31.09 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 00:31.10 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 00:31.16 | dureyes | ok |
| 00:31.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: home yet? |
| 00:31.36 | abrotman | it's saturday |
| 00:31.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: some people work saturday too, you know |
| 00:31.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: apt-get install opencubicplayer |
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| 00:33.11 | carlito | abrotman: php.ini even i make changes on it for some pages wich request changes not effect |
| 00:33.23 | abrotman | huh ? |
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| 00:34.23 | abrotman | !info opencubicplayer etch |
| 00:34.29 | dpkg | opencubicplayer: (UNIX port of Open Cubic Player), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.1.10rc6-1 (etch), Packaged size: 577 kB, Installed size: 1520 kB |
| 00:35.04 | carlito | am how to explain :) one of my pages request always register_globals On and before this bug when i change it the page start work and now even i make changes on it it still continu to request it, all i'm saying if is soem bug on php.ini |
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| 00:35.56 | abrotman | carlito: try another browser |
| 00:36.10 | carlito | i tyed firefox too |
| 00:36.17 | tarzeau | carlito: try links2 |
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| 00:36.35 | carlito | and i called my friedn from his home to check it frome there too not work |
| 00:36.40 | carlito | so is not the browser |
| 00:38.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: wtf would i want to use that? |
| 00:38.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: to play music? |
| 00:38.52 | abrotman | carlito: can you share the URL ? |
| 00:38.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: it looks horrible |
| 00:39.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: it can play ANY sort of music files |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: can it play wmv ? |
| 00:39.14 | abrotman | can it play .ra ? |
| 00:39.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: it can change pitch of music AND speed (individually) |
| 00:39.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: man .ra is crap. try .sid and some adlib tunes, wanna links? |
| 00:39.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: it does mp3 and ogg |
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| 00:39.54 | abrotman | those ARE music files |
| 00:40.07 | abrotman | i don't care if they're crap .. still music files |
| 00:40.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: send me example music files, and they might get supported, or ask for it in #ocp |
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| 00:40.24 | DaBlade | Can anyone tell me how to convert a bin/cue image to an ISO? |
| 00:40.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've got no single such music file |
| 00:40.29 | abrotman | tarzeau: you can easily find samles |
| 00:40.31 | abrotman | samples |
| 00:40.34 | tarzeau | DaBlade: try apt-cache search |
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| 00:40.41 | eth0x | Hmm when i type startx kde runs by default. how do i get fluxbox to start? (type fluxbox and it says start x server first.. but xstart runs kde) |
| 00:40.42 | wols | DaBlade: goggle linux bin2iso |
| 00:40.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: i really don't care about those, sorry |
| 00:40.47 | DaBlade | tarzeau: I already did, didn't come up with anything |
| 00:40.51 | DaBlade | wols: Thanks |
| 00:40.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: then i really don't care about your player! |
| 00:40.58 | tarzeau | DaBlade: you looked for the wrong thing then |
| 00:41.07 | DaBlade | I searched for "cue" |
| 00:41.11 | carlito | abrotman: i posted the url to your pv |
| 00:41.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's not mine, narcist! |
| 00:41.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: i have a grand total of maybe 50 encoded songs on my harddrive |
| 00:41.53 | abrotman | carlito: you're not IDed ... |
| 00:41.53 | abrotman | carlito: /j #carlito |
| 00:42.13 | guk | eth0x: I always edited my .xinitrc in my home directory and put "exec wmaker" and it would load windowmaker ... |
| 00:42.14 | abrotman | carlito: other than the page being broken apparently .. nothing gets downloaded |
| 00:42.47 | guk | eth0x: im not sure if that's even supported by x.org |
| 00:43.01 | eth0x | hmmmm |
| 00:43.02 | carlito | well now it not get, but just few mins ago it got :/ |
| 00:43.16 | guk | eth0x: just go vi .xinitrc |
| 00:43.17 | carlito | and all phpmyadmin works and page was working before i installed that file |
| 00:43.20 | guk | and put in "exec fluxbox" |
| 00:43.20 | abrotman | carlito: hehe ... |
| 00:43.22 | guk | then go start xd |
| 00:43.26 | abrotman | carlito: so it works now ? |
| 00:43.28 | guk | startx* |
| 00:43.33 | carlito | the page no |
| 00:43.39 | carlito | others phpmyadmin works |
| 00:43.45 | carlito | just the page not work |
| 00:43.45 | eth0x | alright thanks guk |
| 00:43.47 | ph00 | hey. someone can hel me with the sound? I'm on sarge with 2.6.8-k7 kernel, I've installed alsa and alsa-utils but no sound comes out, the kde sound mixer says "soundcard "unknown" |
| 00:43.52 | abrotman | i can't help you if the PHP is coded badly .. just if apache/php are broken |
| 00:43.56 | ph00 | hel=help |
| 00:44.15 | tarzeau | ph00: very new soundcard? |
| 00:44.21 | carlito | sure abrotman thenx |
| 00:44.32 | tarzeau | ph00: get the latest www.alsa-project.org stuff, and maybe the latest kernel too, www.kernel.org |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | carlito: as long as you think your PHP is working correctly |
| 00:44.40 | eth0x | guk: there was no .xinitrc file. do i create it? |
| 00:44.41 | tarzeau | ph00: debian doesn't support alot of hardware of 2006 |
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| 00:44.49 | Cooner750 | Still cant get FTP working in Debian :/ |
| 00:44.56 | tarzeau | ph00: like several nvidia and intel network cards, sound cards, video cards |
| 00:44.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: that's a really really shitty answer |
| 00:45.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, it's exactly true |
| 00:45.05 | carlito | well it is starnge why the page stops the working after installing that file |
| 00:45.08 | ph00 | it's old. an integrated via97 3 years old |
| 00:45.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: YOU DIDN'T EVEN ASK HOW OLD IT WAS |
| 00:45.16 | abrotman | ass |
| 00:45.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: how old is what? |
| 00:45.34 | abrotman | ph00: lspci | grep -i audio |
| 00:45.45 | tarzeau | not even the current linux kernels support some e1000 intel nics |
| 00:45.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: you shouldn't irc drunk |
| 00:46.02 | tarzeau | you've got to patch the kernel from the e1000 sf.net page |
| 00:46.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: go make the zelda game compile |
| 00:46.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not drunk |
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| 00:46.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: did you try apt-get install mazeofgalious yet? |
| 00:46.33 | ph00 | abrotman: it's recognized: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 00:46.34 | abrotman | yes ..a long time ago |
| 00:46.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: or brutalchess ? dodgindiamond2 ? |
| 00:46.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: finished all 10 worlds? |
| 00:46.47 | abrotman | ph00: that is supported in sarge |
| 00:46.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. it was a bad game |
| 00:46.55 | carlito | abrotman: #carlito |
| 00:47.08 | abrotman | carlito: apt-get install php5-mysql |
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| 00:47.14 | CoNdA | Good evning! I have a trouble with java vm, i got it installed and the console(web start) is working, but neither mozilla nor konquer detect it and says java isn't installed. |
| 00:47.21 | DaBlade | wols: I had to use a Fedora RPM via alien, but it seems to be working. Thanks :) |
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| 00:47.31 | abrotman | !tell ph00 about alsa one-liner |
| 00:47.32 | carlito | php5.0-mysql is already the newest version. |
| 00:47.33 | carlito | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 00:47.35 | abrotman | !tell ph00 about alsa-checklist |
| 00:47.58 | abrotman | carlito: make sure the extension is uncommented in your php.ini |
| 00:48.29 | eth0x | how do i save an edited file in vi |
| 00:48.35 | dvs | eth0x: :wq |
| 00:48.41 | dvs | oops! |
| 00:48.44 | dvs | eth0x: :w |
| 00:48.51 | abrotman | ZZ |
| 00:48.54 | ph00 | abrotman, wait, I have this little problem, I upgraded to etch, then I had a lot of problems about snon supperted stuff I wanted to run, or software that wanted to uninstall half computer when I i tried to install it, so I chenged the sources.list lines back to sarge and run upgrade again, but it still doesn't really work as a newly installed sarge |
| 00:49.27 | abrotman | dont' do that |
| 00:49.31 | abrotman | go back to etch |
| 00:49.31 | dvs | !tell ph00 about downgrade |
| 00:50.39 | ph00 | abrotman so I'm not really on sarge, only a lame-etch? or something like that |
| 00:50.52 | abrotman | change your sources again |
| 00:51.03 | ph00 | anyways, the sound card is recognized by the system |
| 00:51.11 | ph00 | back to etch? |
| 00:51.21 | abrotman | carlito: it would say like extension = mysql.so or some crap |
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| 00:51.31 | abrotman | ph00: that's what i would do .. |
| 00:52.31 | ph00 | abrotman when I upgraded to etch then I tried to install a 2.6 kernel it tried to uninstall half the stuff I had (software) now I'm running a 2.6.8 kernel, is it possible that when I switch souces I'll get some problem? |
| 00:52.47 | abrotman | ph00: well .. you might .. but you can ask us about that too |
| 00:52.47 | mhall | Greetings. How might I enable NCQ on my Samsung SP2504C, Samsung HD300LJ, and nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller? |
| 00:52.50 | carlito | abrotman: extension=msql.so i removed the ; before and restarted apache |
| 00:52.56 | abrotman | MYSQL .. not msql |
| 00:53.01 | ph00 | OK I'' try... after all the worst thing that could happen is then I have to reinstall from scratch |
| 00:53.04 | abrotman | msql is something else |
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| 00:54.12 | detecshr | whats the difference between ubuntu and debian |
| 00:54.22 | carlito | there is not mysql.so |
| 00:54.23 | dvs | detecshr: ummm... debian works? |
| 00:54.31 | detecshr | lol. ok |
| 00:54.37 | abrotman | carlito: there should be |
| 00:54.38 | ph00 | abrotman but it should keep working as lonmg as I dont run upgrade again (probably) OK, I'm switching sources back to etch |
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| 00:54.50 | abrotman | ph00: just ask us for help to get it normal |
| 00:55.15 | ph00 | abrotman I will, thanks |
| 00:55.38 | ph00 | I 'll robably be back in a little while with the sound issue again |
| 00:56.25 | abrotman | i don't know .. but smart money is on using visual cues! |
| 00:56.32 | DaBlade | dvs: Everyone's having sound issues? |
| 00:56.41 | dvs | DaBlade: lately... yeah |
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| 00:56.45 | DaBlade | Might be a broken update.. |
| 00:56.47 | ph00 | dvs a conspiracy theorist would say that "they" don't want us to listen |
| 00:56.51 | DaBlade | Everything works here. |
| 00:57.04 | carlito | abrotman: there is not, i just added it by myself and is not helping |
| 00:57.24 | dvs | Maybe it's better that way so the government can't hear what we're saying. |
| 00:57.43 | abrotman | carlito: how did you screw this up ? |
| 00:57.49 | abrotman | which php.ini are you editing ? |
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| 00:58.34 | carlito | by installing this apache2-mpm-worker |
| 00:58.50 | carlito | i edit /etc/apache2/php.ini |
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| 01:00.57 | abrotman | ok |
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| 01:02.23 | eth0x | that file could not be found, so i created .xinitrc with exec fluxbox logged out and tryed startx and kde ran again |
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| 01:04.21 | ph00 | abrotman: I changed sources, shoud I run upgrade too? |
| 01:05.20 | abrotman | dist-upgrade ? |
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| 01:05.47 | dvs | ph00: did you run update first? |
| 01:05.52 | ph00 | yes |
| 01:05.55 | k-man | whats the difference between xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver? |
| 01:06.26 | ph00 | k-man x-screensaver works on fluxbox as well? (just guessing) |
| 01:06.42 | k-man | ph00, hmmm.... |
| 01:06.43 | k-man | ok |
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| 01:06.46 | CoNdA | Can someone help me here? I'm so stuck with this java,j2se thing. I follow the setup, I have installed it several times. but "java -version" still doesnt list it and no browser finds it. |
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| 01:08.01 | dvs | CoNdA: How did you install it? |
| 01:08.03 | CoNdA | I have installed jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin and java-package and made a .deb out of it; It install itself, but it doesnt do any good. |
| 01:08.15 | CoNdA | *installed itself w/o error |
| 01:08.59 | dvs | CoNdA: and what does "java -version" say? |
| 01:09.09 | ph00 | abrotman dist-upgrade is trying to remove *a lot* of stuff. the output is too big to paste it here. Maybe the right thing is trying to downgrade |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | like what? |
| 01:09.43 | abrotman | use a pastebin |
| 01:10.10 | ph00 | like the whole gnome desktop. and I do use a lot of gnome stuff |
| 01:10.15 | k-man | it seems as though you can install xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver at the same time... |
| 01:10.20 | ph00 | where can I paste the output? |
| 01:10.22 | k-man | is that a feature or a bug? |
| 01:10.32 | dvs | ph00: pastebin.ca |
| 01:10.37 | CoNdA | http://paste.uni.cc/9282 |
| 01:10.41 | ph00 | ok |
| 01:10.42 | CoNdA | dvs |
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| 01:11.13 | dvs | CoNdA: so uninstall gcj |
| 01:11.38 | dvs | !find gcj sarge |
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| 01:11.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gcj' (6 of 28): (/usr/share/doc/libgcj4-awt) in libs/libgcj4-awt ;; (/usr/share/doc/libgcj5-awt) in libs/libgcj5-awt ;; (/usr/include/gc/gc_gcj.h) in libdevel/libgc-dev ;; (/usr/include/pnet/gc/gc_gcj.h) in devel/pnet-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/libgcj-dev) in libdevel/libgcj-dev ;; (/usr/share/aclocal-1.6/gcj.m4) in devel/automake1.6. |
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| 01:12.20 | ru | hi all |
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| 01:12.53 | ru | Anyone know how to specify which Xinerama screen applications launch/start in |
| 01:12.54 | CoNdA | dvs; what does that help me? |
| 01:13.02 | ru | j #X |
| 01:13.07 | Werdna | hi guys |
| 01:13.14 | Werdna | anybody know anything about NX? |
| 01:13.19 | dvs | CoNdA: gcj is a GNU's java implementation and it's taking precedent over Sun's |
| 01:13.47 | ph00 | pastebin.ca: "you have nno permission to post here" another one please |
| 01:14.58 | CoNdA | dvs: how to remove it properly? |
| 01:14.59 | Werdna | ph00, is that to me? |
| 01:15.02 | abrotman | nx not in debian .. windows not in debian |
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| 01:15.13 | dvs | CoNdA: dpkg -P gcj |
| 01:15.30 | CoNdA | no I tried.. "is not installed" |
| 01:15.41 | ph00 | werdna no, it was to the one who suggested to paste there |
| 01:16.14 | dvs | CoNdA: dpkg -P gcj-4.1 |
| 01:16.20 | ph00 | abrotman, here is the upgrade-dist output http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/7532 |
| 01:16.47 | abrotman | ph00: i wanted the list of packages to be removed |
| 01:17.01 | CoNdA | not that one or 4.1.2 or 4.1.2-20060715 is installed |
| 01:17.03 | ph00 | ok I'll paste that |
| 01:17.06 | abrotman | pastebin.ca |
| 01:17.22 | ph00 | anyway, that page showed only the beginning of my paste... |
| 01:17.34 | carlito | abrotman: is there some way to remove all php5 itryed with --purge but it's not help? |
| 01:17.35 | dvs | CoNdA: then which one is installed? |
| 01:17.49 | abrotman | carlito: apt-get --purge remove php5 |
| 01:17.59 | CoNdA | I dont know, I never installed it.. :> |
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| 01:18.35 | dvs | CoNdA: dpkg -l gcj* |
| 01:18.41 | keram | how do i get gset-compiz for debian? |
| 01:18.52 | ph00 | abrotman: here's the list http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8083 |
| 01:19.05 | keram | is there a repository or something |
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| 01:19.38 | abrotman | ph00: paste the ENTIRE output of apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 01:19.39 | ph00 | abrotman wait |
| 01:19.52 | Emiml | keram: I saw some ugly-hack somewhere ... |
| 01:19.58 | ph00 | I got something wron |
| 01:20.02 | ph00 | wait |
| 01:20.03 | ru | I have two screens setup using Xinerama |
| 01:20.18 | Emiml | keram: like this one: http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm |
| 01:20.19 | keram | hmmm |
| 01:20.22 | ru | How do I make force an application to use a specific screen? |
| 01:21.12 | ph00 | abrottman, looks like I missed one line so I thougt it would remove much more stuff than I thought |
| 01:21.30 | abrotman | ph00: paste the ENTIRE output of apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
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| 01:21.56 | carlito | abrotman: its work now :) php5.0-modconf apache2 |
| 01:21.57 | keram | oh that looks like what i need |
| 01:22.00 | keram | thanks Emiml :] |
| 01:22.11 | carlito | thenx to you |
| 01:22.20 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 01:22.34 | CoNdA | dvs.. its a lot of dependencies around the packages.. classpath, base, commons .. 4.0 and 4.1 should everything be removed? |
| 01:22.51 | Emiml | keram: what graphics card do you have ? |
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| 01:23.16 | dvs | CoNdA: well, as long as the java exec for gcj is removed it should be fine |
| 01:23.23 | ph00 | abrotman OK I will, but I think I can saf3ely run it: it was only a couple of package to be removed, mostly gtk themes and engines, the rest were packages to *install*. I missed the line where it said "the following nesw packages will be installed" so I thought the whole list was about removing. sorry for that. I'm pasting the output |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:23.42 | CoNdA | dvs.. listning |
| 01:23.47 | keram | Emiml, some integraded one |
| 01:23.52 | keram | why does it require a good one? |
| 01:24.47 | Emiml | keram: not good one, but some "avarage" |
| 01:24.56 | dvs | CoNdA: Just remove the gcj packages |
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| 01:25.37 | CoNdA | including *-base and libgcj6/7 ? |
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| 01:25.57 | Emiml | keram: you can try korora livecd. You can easyliy test if this compiz thing will work on your machine |
| 01:26.07 | dvs | CoNdA: Only if they don't depend on something that you want to keep |
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| 01:27.24 | ph00 | abrotman: here is the apt-get dist-upgrade output: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8084 there are some 50 packages to be removed, can you check if I can do that without getting some problems? thanks |
| 01:27.42 | abrotman | moment |
| 01:28.09 | abrotman | nothing seems too bad .. |
| 01:28.12 | keram | ok |
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| 01:31.46 | ph00 | OK, I'll do it then. |
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| 01:33.49 | lontra | anyone know how i can find the address of my wireless router so that i can set up a password? |
| 01:33.57 | lontra | my landlady lost the instructions to the router |
| 01:34.00 | lontra | and i know that my neighbours our leaching off my network |
| 01:34.09 | dvs | lontra: are you connected to it now? |
| 01:34.12 | zebalin4 | Hi folks. Got a question. What does Linux have that will allow full-screen remote access like www.gotomypc.com (which is basically Citrix and work only on Windows). |
| 01:34.14 | lontra | yes |
| 01:34.19 | dvs | lontra: netstat -a |
| 01:34.29 | dvs | lontra: netstat -r |
| 01:34.30 | dvs | sorry |
| 01:35.20 | lontra | dvs: ok is it destination or gateway? |
| 01:35.29 | dvs | lontra: gateway |
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| 01:35.44 | abrotman | zebalin4: vnc |
| 01:35.47 | PRAEDO | hello |
| 01:36.05 | PRAEDO | i get a GPG error after apt-get update |
| 01:36.09 | PRAEDO | what should i do to fix that? |
| 01:36.15 | PRAEDO | i reinstalled gnupg |
| 01:36.16 | lontra | dvs: shit i forgot my user name... |
| 01:36.19 | dvs | !topicsmite PRAEDO |
| 01:36.19 | zebalin4 | abrotman: will it work from any remote with just a browser or will both machines have to run vnc? |
| 01:36.19 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon PRAEDO. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:36.22 | lontra | doh :X |
| 01:36.47 | PRAEDO | what do you mean, dvds? |
| 01:36.53 | abrotman | zebalin4: i think there's a java-ish vnc client |
| 01:36.58 | lontra | if i reset the router will that reset the user name? |
| 01:37.09 | abrotman | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vnc+java&btnG=Google+Search |
| 01:37.18 | abrotman | zebalin4: the client needs a vnc client of some sort |
| 01:37.21 | dvs | PRAEDO: what error message do you get? |
| 01:37.33 | PRAEDO | the signaure isn't found |
| 01:37.49 | zebalin4 | abrotman: the nice thing about gotomypc.com is that it only has to run on the 'home' computer not the remote. |
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| 01:37.56 | dvs | PRAEDO: read the topic |
| 01:38.07 | abrotman | zebalin4: i once found something like that .. .give me a bit to find it |
| 01:38.13 | PRAEDO | is that answered somewhere in those links? |
| 01:38.28 | dvs | PRAEDO: /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 01:38.46 | PRAEDO | i see |
| 01:38.50 | PRAEDO | what is that used for in fact? |
| 01:39.02 | ru | How the heck can this be so difficult? |
| 01:39.11 | dvs | PRAEDO: to make sure that .deb packages actually come from debian |
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| 01:39.14 | ru | All I want to do is launch an application on a specific Xinerama screen |
| 01:40.33 | PRAEDO | gpg says it's not fully trusted |
| 01:40.43 | ph00 | I see from the network monitor that apt-get is getting stuff thru the ethernet, so why did it ask me to put the debain dvd in? |
| 01:40.49 | dvs | PRAEDO: so trust it |
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| 01:41.11 | smarts | how do you create a private proxy on debian? |
| 01:41.12 | PRAEDO | okay, i'll see if now works |
| 01:41.21 | PRAEDO | btw, i lost loadkeys command |
| 01:41.26 | PRAEDO | what package includes that? |
| 01:41.33 | ph00 | smarts try Tor |
| 01:41.45 | smarts | Tor? |
| 01:41.48 | ph00 | (if I understan well what you mean) |
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| 01:42.00 | ph00 | http://tor.eff.org |
| 01:42.09 | ph00 | anonymizing proxy: works great |
| 01:42.26 | birmaan | sometimes a little slow |
| 01:42.27 | abrotman | you think ... |
| 01:42.32 | smarts | tor will make the debian box a proxy server? heh |
| 01:43.08 | abrotman | uhm .. i don't think tor is what he's lookign for |
| 01:43.11 | ph00 | yes it's kinda slow, that's the price for anonymity... I thin it's woth it |
| 01:43.31 | ph00 | tor can make a debian box a tor server |
| 01:43.40 | abrotman | i don't think that's what he's asking about |
| 01:43.54 | abrotman | smarts: what are you trying to accomplish ? |
| 01:43.55 | ph00 | but if you need to use a proxy to be anonymous on the net, tor will do the job |
| 01:43.59 | smarts | i want to setup a proxy on a coalocated debian server |
| 01:44.04 | ph00 | no, I'm realing that |
| 01:44.09 | ph00 | ok then |
| 01:44.10 | smarts | so that i can connect through it so to establish a static ip |
| 01:44.13 | ph00 | not tor |
| 01:44.20 | abrotman | see :) |
| 01:44.31 | ph00 | tor will switch IP every now and then |
| 01:44.36 | abrotman | zebalin4: https://jxta-remote-desktop.dev.java.net/ |
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| 01:44.57 | abrotman | zebalin4: i have NEVER tried it |
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| 01:45.13 | smarts | so the debian channel has no clue as how to setup a proxy on debian? heh |
| 01:45.31 | smarts | maybe i'll ask #freebsd, they seem to be knowledgable... |
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| 01:45.35 | ph00 | hey wait, I'm a newcomer here |
| 01:45.48 | ph00 | and kinda newbie too |
| 01:46.05 | abrotman | smarts: you want a squid proxy ? |
| 01:46.17 | zebalin4 | abrotman: thanks. I'll check it out. |
| 01:46.17 | TTT_Travis | not sure if this is the right channel but you guys should be able to help me, I am trying to use the cut command, I have read the man page the best I could but I am a noob. I want to cut any lines that contain qtu right now if I try that it says cut: the delimiter must be a single character |
| 01:46.41 | TTT_Travis | because it only wants to cut 1 character |
| 01:46.43 | abrotman | the whole line ? |
| 01:46.57 | TTT_Travis | I want it to cut at that point |
| 01:47.02 | smarts | sure abrotman |
| 01:47.08 | abrotman | wait .. give a sample line .. and show the result |
| 01:47.26 | smarts | yes, i want a squid proxy |
| 01:47.31 | TTT_Travis | cut -s -f 1 -d qtu ./text.html |
| 01:47.35 | TTT_Travis | that doesn't work |
| 01:47.36 | abrotman | smarts: well .. other than install the squid package and read the docs . i won't be much help |
| 01:47.46 | abrotman | TTT_Travis: i meant a sample line ... and the result |
| 01:47.54 | TTT_Travis | the result is really long |
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| 01:47.59 | TTT_Travis | but a same line is: |
| 01:48.04 | abrotman | TTT_Travis: make an example |
| 01:48.54 | TTT_Travis | qtu: \"http://testthescript.com" |
| 01:48.54 | abrotman | use sed |
| 01:48.54 | TTT_Travis | could you give me the syntx? |
| 01:48.58 | abrotman | uh .. |
| 01:49.03 | TTT_Travis | this is a multiline file, and I only want it to output the url in that line |
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| 01:49.13 | TTT_Travis | which is after qtu: |
| 01:49.20 | abrotman | s/qtu*$//g .. or something like that .. might want to ask #bash |
| 01:49.25 | TTT_Travis | ok |
| 01:49.53 | TTT_Travis | what would the full command be? |
| 01:50.01 | TTT_Travis | <- noob |
| 01:50.07 | abrotman | probably a sed -i .. that's why i said to ask #bash |
| 01:50.12 | TTT_Travis | ok |
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| 01:55.20 | abrotman | ph00: did it explode yet? |
| 01:55.29 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:55.33 | ph00 | still downloading |
| 01:55.45 | dvs | abrotman: he's installing Windows? |
| 01:55.53 | abrotman | etch |
| 01:56.02 | abrotman | RudyValencia: utf8 ? |
| 01:56.18 | RudyValencia | I thought character mode was limited to ascii |
| 01:56.32 | dvs | RudyValencia: not with frame buffer |
| 01:56.42 | ph00 | btw you know how to bypass a nat box? I have an a***le of an ISP that charges extra to be able to get inbound connections, and I think that isnt fair... |
| 01:56.49 | dvs | RudyValencia: Have you seen the installer? |
| 01:56.52 | RudyValencia | Yes |
| 01:57.08 | dvs | RudyValencia: it's the first question the installer asks and you see different languages |
| 01:57.11 | RudyValencia | Yeah |
| 01:57.12 | abrotman | ph00: you can't |
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| 01:57.39 | RudyValencia | It's interesting how it does that... |
| 01:57.49 | ph00 | I guessed something like that... how about forwarding port to a box you dont (offically) have eccess to? |
| 01:57.53 | archpollux | hi, anyone here uses MuSE, the sequencer? |
| 01:58.02 | ph00 | access |
| 01:58.40 | RudyValencia | Is it basically a pseudo-character mode implemented in the framebuffer? |
| 01:58.42 | ph00 | I even tried to telnet it but it refuses connections, I guess I'm just not good enough (yet) |
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| 02:00.13 | Emiml | ph00: using telnet doesn't make you l33t cracker automaticly |
| 02:00.24 | ph00 | exactly |
| 02:00.30 | ph00 | I have to learn a lot |
| 02:00.44 | Emiml | ph00: and it is not possible to do such thing with telnet |
| 02:00.49 | ph00 | but I dont want to crack anything, just forward a couple of ports |
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| 02:01.45 | ceplma | can anybody tell me which version of kopete is in the Debian package of kdenetwork 3.5.3? Is it 0.11 or 0.12? |
| 02:02.27 | abrotman | which veresion of debian? |
| 02:02.34 | abrotman | packages.debian.org/kopete |
| 02:03.22 | ceplma | abrotman: It lies -- gives only version of KDE, not kopete. I meant KDE 3.5.4 which is so far only in unstable. |
| 02:03.32 | ph00 | emiml what's the right stuff to use? |
| 02:03.37 | abrotman | ceplma: it lies? |
| 02:03.41 | abrotman | !info kopete etch |
| 02:03.45 | dpkg | kopete: (instant messenger for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.3-1 (etch), Packaged size: 5367 kB, Installed size: 16852 kB |
| 02:03.50 | abrotman | how is that lying? |
| 02:03.51 | Emiml | ph00: you can't do that if you don't have acces to router |
| 02:04.03 | abrotman | ceplma: if that's not right. . file a bug on it |
| 02:04.14 | Emiml | abrotman: but it seems that stadnalone kopete has different versioning numbers |
| 02:04.15 | ph00 | and how do I get access to a router? it's a cisco |
| 02:04.37 | ph00 | or |
| 02:04.38 | Masqy | can someone explain some of the difference between windowmaker and gnustep? |
| 02:04.39 | dvs | ph00: We're not going to tell you how to hack your ISP's router |
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| 02:04.50 | ceplma | abrotman: almost all KDE programs have their own version numbers which do not equal to the version number of KDE they come with. |
| 02:04.53 | abrotman | Emiml: more kde stupidity .. oh well |
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| 02:05.05 | dvs | hey! |
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| 02:05.22 | Marupa | what's the easiest way to stream line/mic in to shoutcast? |
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| 02:06.15 | minerale | what is the name of the protocol that handles names internally ? |
| 02:06.26 | TTT_Travis | abrotman just to simplify my problem, is there a way to make cut cut more than 1 character? |
| 02:06.27 | Emiml | ceplma: you should try reading relase-notes on kde sites to see what versions they include |
| 02:06.47 | abrotman | TTT_Travis: i'm reallyl pretty sure you want sed |
| 02:06.47 | Emiml | ceplma: maybe there is something interesting in /usr/share/doc/kopete/* |
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| 02:07.18 | minerale | ie if I do `ssh helsinki` and helsinki is a local machine in the network, how is the name resolved? |
| 02:07.32 | Fluten | i have a portable card reader which downloads memory cards to a laptop hard drive. the card reader has a shoddy battery controller, and doesn't know when the battery is fully charged or empty. when the battery runs down all the way, i will see the reader turn on and the backlight will flicker a lot and attempt to copy a card and then turn off. afterwards i seem to have problems with bad sectors on the drive when i run fsck on it. it h |
| 02:07.32 | Fluten | as done this once with a brand new 40GB drive and again recently with an old 12GB one. could this in any way be coincidal? |
| 02:07.37 | dvs | minerale: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:07.45 | Masqy | is it possible to download the last snapshot of etch as a whole and install completely from CDs ? |
| 02:07.51 | dvs | minerale: and /etc/hosts |
| 02:07.51 | ceplma | Emiml: kopete has independent release cycle from KDE |
| 02:07.57 | abrotman | you can .. but it will be out of date in two days |
| 02:08.01 | abrotman | ceplma: ask #debian-kde |
| 02:08.04 | zebalin4 | Are there any major issues with sid now? Is cups finally fixed? KDE? |
| 02:08.11 | ceplma | abrotman: that's what I am doing just now |
| 02:08.13 | ceplma | thanks |
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| 02:08.17 | Emiml | ceplma: but KDE people include it to their deskop relase ? |
| 02:08.31 | minerale | dvs: wait, I'm trying to setup netbios so that my laptop which has a dynamic ip is recognised |
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| 02:08.53 | Masqy | abrotman: where can I dl it from ? |
| 02:08.58 | dvs | minerale: do the other machines you want to connect to change their IP addresses? |
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| 02:09.29 | Masqy | I have a computer w.o. internet connection (at this stage) on which I'd like to try etch, since I think I'd rather play with the newer versions... |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | Masqy: debian.org/devel/testing .. maybbe |
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| 02:09.47 | abrotman | maybe debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 02:11.55 | Masqy | abrotman: well, the dvd link for beta3 of etch is.. broken : ( |
| 02:12.03 | abrotman | yay! |
| 02:12.06 | Masqy | ( i386 arch) |
| 02:12.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | um. i just went to install mplayer and i cant find it in apt - or packages.debian.org. has it been removed?? |
| 02:12.23 | abrotman | you didn't say dvds! |
| 02:12.24 | minerale | dvs: I"m trying to find out exactly how netbios works |
| 02:12.28 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: never existed |
| 02:12.40 | Masqy | strange.. now works.. |
| 02:12.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | whaoo? |
| 02:12.44 | PRAEDO | Findkeymap : No such file or directory |
| 02:12.48 | PRAEDO | what do i need to reinstall? |
| 02:12.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | abrotman, ok... i'll um. compiile i suppose :/ |
| 02:13.02 | abrotman | Masqy: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta3/i386/bt-dvd/ |
| 02:13.07 | abrotman | !tell Kamping_Kaiser about mplayer |
| 02:13.25 | Marupa | any ideas for me, guys? it can't be hard to solve. |
| 02:13.37 | Masqy | The "Current weekly snapshot of Debian testing" dvd link does not work |
| 02:13.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | abrotman, thanks. |
| 02:13.54 | dvs | Masqy: use beta 3 |
| 02:13.57 | abrotman | Masqy: i jsut gave you alink! |
| 02:14.06 | Masqy | ok... 10x... |
| 02:14.08 | Emiml | Marupa: icecast ? |
| 02:15.09 | Masqy | ok, but just be aware of the fact that that one is currently not working.. 10x again.. |
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| 02:15.51 | Emiml | Marupa: or no FreeCast should be easier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCast |
| 02:16.13 | Marupa | thank you. |
| 02:16.20 | abrotman | Masqy: probaby because they just released beta3 |
| 02:16.51 | Masqy | oh.. allright, my next question was to be " how new is beta3 : ) " |
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| 02:16.59 | dvs | Masqy: 3 days old? |
| 02:17.07 | dvs | Masqy: August 11 |
| 02:17.27 | Marupa | hmmm, that wouldn't work, Emiml. |
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| 02:17.36 | Marupa | I need to cast to a specific address. |
| 02:17.46 | lopov | hey guys |
| 02:17.48 | Marupa | not my server, but someone else's. |
| 02:17.59 | dvs | cast? Like gentoo? |
| 02:18.08 | Marupa | cast, like shoutcast/icecast/etc |
| 02:18.11 | Masqy | dvs: cool.. in general it implements newer kernel and uses Xorg as Xserver, right? |
| 02:18.14 | mhall | How do I use multiple servers simultaneously in irssi? |
| 02:18.30 | ph00 | well actually, it looks like I won't need to do anything bad after all: I just fount the bet bittorrent client *ever* this gives me quite good speeds even without port forwarding, the ui is kinda old stile and it doesn't have mey features but boy is it fast! (qtorrent) I' getting over 300kb/s inbound... |
| 02:18.43 | ph00 | beSt |
| 02:18.44 | abrotman | yay? |
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| 02:18.59 | abrotman | ph00: there were so many misspelled words in that .. just accept them all :) |
| 02:19.10 | mhall | ph00: surely you must realize, they all implement the same protocols, and mostly use the same library |
| 02:19.27 | lopov | just curious, with the madwifi source package on the debian repos, does that have packet injection included or do i have to d/l the patch? |
| 02:19.31 | mhall | ph00: so whatever difference in speed there is, is a result of settings misconfiguration or otherwise coincidental |
| 02:19.52 | abrotman | lopov: nfc .. ask the maintainer .. try it .. check the changelog/bts |
| 02:20.06 | mhall | lopov: usually you can use find sourcode -iname \*patch\* to look for included patches |
| 02:20.13 | stoned | mhall! |
| 02:20.19 | mhall | lopov: also grab a copy of the patch, see what's inside, then grep for that shit |
| 02:20.23 | mhall | stoned: greetings good sir |
| 02:20.27 | lopov | abchirk, mhall thanks guys |
| 02:20.31 | stoned | whats going on buddy |
| 02:20.33 | mhall | stoned: i have completed the buildout of my dual Opteron |
| 02:20.34 | abrotman | i have a name! |
| 02:20.38 | abchirk | !beer abrotman |
| 02:20.39 | stoned | hell yeah |
| 02:20.39 | abchirk | ;) |
| 02:20.40 | ph00 | abrotman, yes I'm aware of the spelling problem, I never learn to re read befor hitting enter... |
| 02:20.48 | Marupa | so, which program would I use to icecast with? |
| 02:20.52 | abrotman | ph00: you don't say |
| 02:20.55 | Marupa | xmms froze when I tried using liveice. |
| 02:20.58 | mhall | stoned: compusa fucked the fuck up and sold me two 3-drive sata cooling mounting cases with the trays for the price of one |
| 02:21.08 | Emiml | Marupa: you need to send your microphone output to different computer and this computer will cast this stream to other clients? |
| 02:21.11 | mhall | stoned: so i got two top of the line drive backplanes for 120 bucks incl. tax. |
| 02:21.22 | stoned | sweet deal |
| 02:21.22 | Emiml | Marupa: this should be possible with icecast. But I;m not sure |
| 02:21.28 | mhall | stoned: ya it's AWESOME |
| 02:21.30 | Marupa | exactly, emil. |
| 02:21.34 | Marupa | emiml. |
| 02:21.34 | stoned | mhall, I buy my parts from PC Club |
| 02:21.41 | mhall | stoned: and it made the cabling and layout of my case *so much cleaner* |
| 02:21.44 | mhall | dvs: :-D |
| 02:21.48 | stoned | cheapest prices anywhere, and I love the store and availability |
| 02:21.51 | mhall | dvs: i'm covered by state law |
| 02:22.01 | mhall | stoned: believe me i do like PC Clubs when i can get to them |
| 02:22.08 | mhall | stoned: but sacramento sucks ass and does not have any |
| 02:22.14 | stoned | I was there once |
| 02:22.31 | stoned | dude |
| 02:22.35 | stoned | you were on top of a dude |
| 02:22.38 | stoned | sickening! |
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| 02:22.53 | ph00 | mhall I realize that, but the poit is that it works. maybe I could try to set up another clent like my qtorrent an see what happens |
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| 02:22.55 | dvs | oh. Didn't see that coming |
| 02:23.00 | mhall | stoned: nah i was covered by state law |
| 02:23.06 | Masqy | ph00: is there a daemon version of qtorrent? |
| 02:23.06 | mhall | stoned: and dvs became state law |
| 02:23.14 | mhall | stoned: so he got what he deserved, :-D |
| 02:23.17 | stoned | lol |
| 02:23.41 | stoned | yes, quite dvs isn't he |
| 02:23.41 | mhall | stoned: mmmhmm |
| 02:23.42 | mhall | stoned: T. D. B. typical dvs behavior |
| 02:23.59 | stoned | tdb man come on, I don't speak "Acronym" |
| 02:24.05 | stoned | I never took it in highschool |
| 02:24.06 | mhall | Why can I get Wine working right in sid? The package won't install. |
| 02:24.20 | PRAEDO | Findkeymap : No such file or directory |
| 02:24.20 | PRAEDO | what do i need to reinstall? |
| 02:24.21 | mhall | stoned: it would have been funnier when spoken |
| 02:24.26 | ph00 | masqy I don't know, I'm using a windowed version that doesnt even have the minimize to tray fature, I have to minimize to taskbar and leave it there. |
| 02:24.27 | abrotman | it's wine .. it doesn't work .. it emulates windows |
| 02:24.44 | mhall | abrotman: heh |
| 02:25.30 | Masqy | ph00: I've been having some troubles, possibly a serious memory leak with the btdownloadcurses I've been using.. |
| 02:25.41 | stoned | abrotman, good thoughts in, bad thoughts out... |
| 02:25.57 | abrotman | is that a problem? |
| 02:26.13 | Masqy | I'd sure like to consider some other client, although I sure need at least a text client option, since I like initiating dl from my university.. |
| 02:26.16 | stoned | try it! let out the hate and the animosity towards the umm.. er.. something |
| 02:26.19 | stoned | oh, MS |
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| 02:26.32 | stoned | if you got hate in your heart, let it out! |
| 02:26.55 | ph00 | masqy, I'm happy with qtorrent but I'm not good enought to detect that kind of problems yet |
| 02:27.02 | ph00 | goddamn spelling |
| 02:27.21 | ph00 | the keys are just too small, I often hit two intead of one+ |
| 02:27.28 | ph00 | anyways |
| 02:27.42 | stoned | for example, qtorrent, the new version in development, is a rewrite of old qtorrent and is quite incomplete, but works. Very basic. The old qtorrent had very good features, but the engine is very very old |
| 02:27.58 | ph00 | how do I check that after reboot my xserver-xorg will still be there? |
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| 02:28.27 | abrotman | is it installed ? |
| 02:28.33 | ph00 | yest it's old and you can tell but it works just fine |
| 02:28.37 | stoned | I like bittornado-gui |
| 02:28.43 | stoned | small, efficient, fast, works. |
| 02:28.44 | Masqy | ph00: it's a good thing to have redundancy in a spoken language : ) |
| 02:29.03 | stoned | oh |
| 02:29.05 | stoned | dude |
| 02:29.09 | stoned | we can't be friends anymore |
| 02:29.14 | stoned | goddamn java lover! |
| 02:29.27 | mhall | Masqy: a bit hard to have leaks in Python, it's a GC language |
| 02:29.31 | ph00 | bittornado, you have to launch a copy for arch torrent, qtorrent has at least multiple torrent capability |
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| 02:30.10 | mhall | stoned: uh |
| 02:30.11 | stoned | so basically you're a leecher then, or you have a VERY high up |
| 02:30.16 | Masqy | mhall: I was trying to continue a torrent that was 2/3 through (about 400MB), and it just ate all my machines memory, so that I couldn't kill it and I had to reboot! |
| 02:30.18 | ph00 | i hat azureus, slows down all the rest, I can't even surf the web if azureus is on, and it gives me far lower speeds that qtorrent |
| 02:30.18 | stoned | mhall, kididng man |
| 02:30.29 | mhall | Masqy: that *is* weird |
| 02:30.35 | mhall | Masqy: maybe it hit some corruption |
| 02:30.44 | mhall | ph00: for fuck's sake, you have to configure it right |
| 02:30.48 | abrotman | stoned: you use kde .. he uses java .. isn't that the pot calling the kettle black ? |
| 02:30.52 | Masqy | mhall: havn't tried that torrent ever since, I like my machine working.. |
| 02:30.59 | mhall | Masqy: maybe try a different client on it |
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| 02:31.02 | ph00 | mhall I tried. |
| 02:31.04 | mhall | Masqy: and see if it can fix the issue |
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| 02:31.07 | ph00 | many times |
| 02:31.11 | mhall | ph00: well i don't have this problem with it |
| 02:31.15 | stoned | abrotman, you use gnome, you're one to talk |
| 02:31.16 | mhall | ph00: so i don't know what to say |
| 02:31.20 | ph00 | eventually, I switched. |
| 02:31.23 | abrotman | stoned: i didn't call anyone names did i ? |
| 02:31.30 | mhall | at least KDE has features</desktop_war> |
| 02:31.34 | stoned | I didn't call him names did I? |
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| 02:31.53 | abrotman | features? .. "Hi .. I'd like my computer to run really slow ... OHHHH .. KDE has that feature" |
| 02:31.54 | Masqy | mhall: that's what I intend to do with qtorrent, but it seems I need qt package, since it won't run |
| 02:32.07 | stoned | abrotman, you're being a tool :( |
| 02:32.16 | abrotman | stoned: you're being a pain :) |
| 02:32.21 | stoned | argh! |
| 02:32.32 | mhall | lollercoaster |
| 02:32.43 | Masqy | abrotman: what do u use ? I was using windowmaker for some time, but now I try gnome, which is not as heavy as I thought it'd be... |
| 02:32.50 | ph00 | OK it's xserver-xfree86 installed. Now I've don dist-upgrade and I got a warning about checking that X will still be there after reboot, how do I do that? |
| 02:32.59 | abrotman | Masqy: gnome right now |
| 02:33.14 | Masqy | I think that the new versions do work faster.. |
| 02:33.25 | stoned | I don't like the gnome design |
| 02:33.32 | abrotman | don't tell stoned .. oh wait .. he won't remember anyways |
| 02:33.39 | jelly-home | abrotman: I tried to use KDE a bit ago, that feature you mention was the one that made me turn back to a plain wm. I still use konqueror sometimes though... |
| 02:33.49 | Masqy | stoned: it's very minimal, though not as windowmaker.. |
| 02:33.55 | ph00 | I use gnome but kde rlooks good, so I run kwin and kicker in the autostart |
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| 02:34.02 | stoned | I could never get used to it, and the gtk apps I use in kde now, I still cannot get used to the for example, open/save dialog boxes, horribly design in my opinion |
| 02:34.03 | abrotman | jelly-home: you mean that "feature" ? :) |
| 02:34.10 | stoned | what? |
| 02:34.14 | stoned | gnome? minimal? |
| 02:34.15 | abrotman | stoned: file a bug |
| 02:34.23 | stoned | file a bug? |
| 02:34.24 | ph00 | gnome is not minimal |
| 02:34.25 | stoned | why? |
| 02:34.27 | abrotman | on the file dialog |
| 02:34.32 | stoned | its not a bug |
| 02:34.40 | abrotman | you can file a wishlist bug |
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| 02:34.55 | stoned | its just that I find kde more useable, and I have a powerful machine, so all that bloatware propaganda is useless |
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| 02:35.01 | mhall | ph00: that's a bit strange, the only time i got that message was using xorg instead of xf86 |
| 02:35.01 | Cooner750 | How do I run executable .JAR files in Debian? |
| 02:35.06 | abrotman | admit it .. the stoner in you likes the flashy things :) |
| 02:35.11 | stoned | plus kde isn't as bad as you try to make it out to be. |
| 02:35.16 | abrotman | yes it is |
| 02:35.18 | Masqy | stoned: well.. maybe when it stands next to kde.. I mean, I just tried KDE over a knoppix CD, and it looked more like a toy that a desktop manager to me ... |
| 02:35.32 | abrotman | Cooner750: ask #java but probably like java blah.jar |
| 02:35.36 | Emiml | Cooner750: java -jar package.jar |
| 02:35.41 | stoned | abrotman, the point being, one uses what they feel comfortable using. Use what you want, thats the beauty of opensource and debian, customizability |
| 02:35.41 | jelly-home | java -jar foo.jar |
| 02:35.43 | mhall | stoned: kde's developers admit it takes a lot of resources but their argument is their time is better spent on other issues besides resource consumption |
| 02:35.44 | Masqy | Cooner750: if you have java installed, |
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| 02:35.56 | Masqy | use jelly-home's advice |
| 02:36.04 | mhall | stoned: so it isn't like anybody tried to cover up this widely accepted fact |
| 02:36.14 | Marupa | hey, um...really quick question: is there a media player for linux that can view NSV? |
| 02:36.19 | Cooner750 | java says "Command not found", but I run Wildfire Jabber Server, which requires Java, so how is that? |
| 02:36.28 | abrotman | it's not in your $PATH |
| 02:36.38 | Marco2391 | http://etard.mooo.com:8080/image.gif/ |
| 02:36.43 | mhall | stoned: lol this is awesome, i can run a shitload of crap at once and my box doesn't even flinch |
| 02:36.52 | stoned | yup |
| 02:36.54 | Cooner750 | Anything I can do to fix that? |
| 02:36.58 | stoned | I had that on my cluster once upon a time |
| 02:36.59 | Masqy | Cooner750 try 'which java' |
| 02:37.01 | ph00 | now is the configuration running: "choose your sound daemon's dsp wrapper", default is "none" (I guess that's because my sound isnt working right now). What do I choose for a via97? |
| 02:37.02 | mhall | stoned: at mhcomputing.net we loves us some SMP and it be showin like a mothafucka |
| 02:37.11 | Marco2391 | This site says I can install anjuta2 on debian but I can't figure it out: http://etard.mooo.com:8080/image.gif/log.html |
| 02:37.25 | abrotman | Marco2391: apt-get install anjuta |
| 02:37.43 | stoned | I'm dyslexic |
| 02:37.49 | stoned | I just read that as ajunta |
| 02:37.54 | Marco2391 | abrotman, it installs ajuta originale |
| 02:37.55 | jelly-home | ph00: none, it doesn't depend on the card, but on which desktop environment you're going to use. |
| 02:37.55 | mhall | Marco2391: on my sid box only the v1 series seems available |
| 02:38.09 | mhall | Marco2391: btw lol @ anjuta originale |
| 02:38.11 | ph00 | jelly-home: that's gnome |
| 02:38.11 | Cooner750 | 'which java' does nothing, it just returns to the prompt, and java still says Command not found |
| 02:38.13 | abrotman | Marco2391: which version of debian ? |
| 02:38.16 | jelly-home | ph00: esound for gnome |
| 02:38.18 | Marco2391 | abrotman, sid |
| 02:38.27 | abrotman | !info anjuta sid |
| 02:38.29 | dpkg | anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.4a-4 (sid), Packaged size: 912 kB, Installed size: 2040 kB |
| 02:38.37 | abrotman | uh |
| 02:38.40 | abrotman | wtf .. where'd it go |
| 02:38.45 | Marco2391 | same thing I thought |
| 02:38.49 | Marco2391 | in my previous installation I had it |
| 02:38.51 | abrotman | it was there a few months ago |
| 02:38.52 | jelly-home | ph00: its dsp wrapper would be "esddsp", I believe. |
| 02:38.52 | mhall | Marco2391: probably what you will need to do is, look for packages, and if there are none then you will want to install the dependencies and place it into /usr/local for now |
| 02:38.52 | ph00 | jelly-home: that's not in the list, nnearest thing is esddsp |
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| 02:39.06 | ph00 | jelly-home OK then, thx |
| 02:39.09 | Emiml | Marco2391: anjuta2 is in experimental |
| 02:39.16 | mhall | ah-ha |
| 02:39.17 | Marco2391 | Emiml, oh, ok |
| 02:39.17 | abrotman | it was in sid/testing |
| 02:39.25 | abrotman | at least .. i think it was |
| 02:39.29 | Marco2391 | I know it was |
| 02:39.34 | Marco2391 | I had it on my other install |
| 02:39.36 | Emiml | Marco2391: but upstream package it not usable |
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| 02:39.51 | mhall | Emiml: with name of 'anjuta2'? |
| 02:39.56 | abrotman | Marco2391: but it was really buggy last time i tried to use it |
| 02:40.10 | stoned | Emiml, have you ever heard of Vader? |
| 02:40.20 | Marco2391 | I remember liking the GTKsourceview editor though, it looked cleaner |
| 02:40.39 | Cooner750 | javaws starts Java Web Start, but java says Command not found |
| 02:40.43 | Emiml | Marco2391: hmm.. It is not in experimental anymore |
| 02:40.45 | mhall | Marco2391: what language are you planning on using |
| 02:40.53 | Marco2391 | mhall, C |
| 02:40.58 | Emiml | stoned: what do you mean ? |
| 02:41.14 | abrotman | bah .. just use anjuta1 :) |
| 02:41.19 | Marco2391 | heh |
| 02:41.20 | Marco2391 | :) |
| 02:41.24 | stoned | Vader, from Poland |
| 02:41.26 | mhall | Cooner750: paste output of dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ printf("%s ", $1); END { printf("\n"); }' |
| 02:41.34 | mhall | Cooner750: oops |
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| 02:41.59 | mhall | Cooner750: paste output of dpkg --get-selections | awk '/[Jj][Aa][Vv][Aa]/ { printf("%s ", $1); END { printf("\n"); }' |
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| 02:42.12 | Emiml | stoned: ahh this band. I konow that it exisits and that I don't like that kind of music |
| 02:42.32 | stoned | Emiml, you're a lucky bastard :( |
| 02:42.42 | stoned | I wish I could be where you are and go seem them live |
| 02:42.42 | mhall | Cooner750: damnit, typo again, paste output of dpkg --get-selections | awk '/[Jj][Aa][Vv][Aa]/ { printf("%s ", $1); } END { printf("\n"); }' |
| 02:42.56 | Masqy | when u run etch, do you get upgraded to the newest etch via a 'apt upgrade' command? |
| 02:43.06 | stoned | Masqy, yes |
| 02:43.07 | jelly-home | mhall: awk doesn't have /java/i syntax? |
| 02:43.08 | mhall | Marco2391: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:43.09 | Cooner750 | mhall: java-common java-package |
| 02:43.25 | Marco2391 | mhall, it's not in the repos |
| 02:43.29 | mhall | jelly-home: it might, and you can use a variable called IGNORECASE=1; in the BEGIN |
| 02:43.38 | Marco2391 | I just updated a few hours ago |
| 02:43.40 | mhall | Marco2391: java? yes it is. |
| 02:43.44 | Marco2391 | no, |
| 02:43.47 | Marco2391 | I never asked about Java |
| 02:43.52 | Marco2391 | I was talking about anjuta |
| 02:43.54 | abrotman | hah |
| 02:44.01 | mhall | Marco2391: yeah, that's correct, it does not appear to be |
| 02:44.05 | mhall | Cooner750: hmm |
| 02:44.09 | mhall | Cooner750: what debian version |
| 02:44.11 | Marco2391 | What we have here, is a failure to communicate |
| 02:44.18 | mhall | Marco2391: LOL _SO_ TRUE |
| 02:44.24 | mhall | Marco2391: i *love* that line |
| 02:44.25 | jelly-home | some people you just can't reach |
| 02:44.34 | abrotman | so you get what we had here last week ... |
| 02:44.37 | Cooner750 | mhall: Sarge |
| 02:44.40 | mhall | Marco2391: also. ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!!111!!11!1 DO YOU SPEAK IT? |
| 02:44.40 | abrotman | which is the way he wants it .. so he gets it |
| 02:44.51 | stoned | mhall, calm down mna |
| 02:44.53 | stoned | mna |
| 02:44.55 | stoned | man! |
| 02:44.55 | mhall | Cooner750: hmm. maybe you could try purging and reinstalling them |
| 02:44.56 | stoned | fuck! |
| 02:45.06 | stoned | goddamn keyboard |
| 02:45.06 | mhall | stoned: i can't 420 it up so i'm always a bit hyfy |
| 02:45.11 | stoned | dude |
| 02:45.19 | stoned | I'm about to roll one |
| 02:45.25 | mhall | stoned: what i need is, some brownies |
| 02:45.37 | Marco2391 | mhall, dude, calm down, lol |
| 02:45.51 | stoned | what I need is 2 grand |
| 02:45.59 | stoned | so I can buy a ticked, go home, and get laid |
| 02:46.01 | abrotman | go work |
| 02:46.06 | stoned | soon man soon |
| 02:46.06 | stoned | shit |
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| 02:47.39 | Emiml | Marco2391: you can find all packages that ever appeared in debian on snapshots.debian.net |
| 02:47.48 | Emiml | Marco2391: and it seems that anjuta2 is there http://snapshot.debian.net/cgi-bin/packages.cgi |
| 02:48.01 | abrotman | Emiml: it was removed for a reason iirc |
| 02:48.17 | abrotman | oh well |
| 02:48.19 | stoned | everything happens for a reason dude |
| 02:48.26 | abrotman | no more drugs |
| 02:48.27 | stoned | thats not a reason |
| 02:48.37 | ph00 | way more drugs... |
| 02:48.39 | mhall | Marco2391: no i wasn't saying you couldn't speak english right |
| 02:48.43 | stoned | not enough drugs |
| 02:48.48 | mhall | Marco2391: i was just saying that's another funny film line |
| 02:48.56 | mhall | Marco2391: which your line you quoted reminded me of |
| 02:48.56 | Marco2391 | ya, I know |
| 02:48.57 | TTT_Travis | how can I use sed to replace a line that doesn't contain a certain word? |
| 02:49.06 | TTT_Travis | replace = show |
| 02:49.08 | mhall | Marco2391: k just making sure |
| 02:49.12 | ph00 | getting hight should be considered a basic human right |
| 02:49.13 | ph00 | high |
| 02:49.17 | Marco2391 | Are there any plans to ever make a non-crappy flash implementation |
| 02:49.20 | Marco2391 | :/ |
| 02:49.21 | mhall | Marco2391: everybody got all butt-hurt so i thought maybe they misunderstood me |
| 02:49.24 | abrotman | Marco2391: yes |
| 02:49.25 | mhall | ph00: it always was |
| 02:49.34 | DaBlade | I've got a bit of a problem. I'm trying to burn a bin/cue image that has two CDs in it. K3b burnt the first disc but refuses to burn the second. I tried converting it to ISO but the image turned out corrupt. I spent lots of time on this and have frankly gotten sick of it. Does anyone have any advice for me? |
| 02:49.35 | Emiml | Marco2391: flash is crappy by definition |
| 02:49.37 | mhall | ph00: it's just being violated because of tyranny of the majority |
| 02:49.46 | Cooner750 | Still no luck for Java |
| 02:49.51 | mhall | ph00: native americans viewed getting high as a path to god |
| 02:49.55 | ph00 | not by law enforcement... only allowed thing is actually one of the most dangerous |
| 02:50.01 | ph00 | yes |
| 02:50.11 | mhall | ph00: the bullshit of it is, that some methods are allowed while others aren't |
| 02:50.14 | ph00 | I'm talking about modern western-word laws |
| 02:50.21 | ph00 | yes |
| 02:50.24 | mhall | ph00: if they were being philosophically consistent, they'd ban it all |
| 02:50.27 | Marco2391 | "you can smoke through your ass crack but not through your mouth" |
| 02:50.35 | DaBlade | <nag>Hello, anyone? Please.</nag> |
| 02:50.51 | mhall | DaBlade: *TWO* CDs?!?!? |
| 02:50.51 | stoned | what do you mean it should be considered a right? it is a right? you're born with it. Any gov. just takes away from those rights and liberties. USA however, takes all your freedoms away, and then takes credit for giving you 'freedom', in a country where you are not even free to kill yourself. |
| 02:51.01 | stoned | wait where I am |
| 02:51.05 | mhall | DaBlade: your best bet would be a windows application if you can run one |
| 02:51.06 | DaBlade | mhall: Yeah.. |
| 02:51.07 | stoned | on #debian |
| 02:51.20 | DaBlade | mhall: That's out of the question... :( |
| 02:51.22 | mhall | DaBlade: cdrwin is the originator of bin/cue and there is a free trial which burns slowly but should work |
| 02:51.25 | ph00 | I mean, pot should be sold in @ the liquor store, and stronger stuff undeer doctor's control that woul get *lots* of criminality off the streets and would get the mob out of business |
| 02:51.30 | ph00 | remember al capone? |
| 02:51.31 | stoned | the other day I talked in #amarok for an hour before I realized it wasn't #debian |
| 02:51.35 | mhall | DaBlade: perhaps it works in wine, it's a real simple app |
| 02:51.43 | ph00 | when booze got legalized, that was over |
| 02:51.52 | Marupa | so, what's the easiest way to stream mic/line in to a specific shoutcast serveR? |
| 02:52.05 | abrotman | isn't there a #shoutcast or #icecast? |
| 02:52.10 | ph00 | but OK, we should talk about computers here |
| 02:52.12 | mhall | ph00: rational arguments won't work |
| 02:52.22 | mhall | ph00: so this line of thought is pointless |
| 02:52.31 | DaBlade | mhall: Thanks, I might try it. If it's a known app, which I assume it must be if it's the cause of the disaster that is bin/cue, I figure I can find a crack for it somewhere too. |
| 02:52.40 | mhall | DaBlade: you don't need one |
| 02:52.48 | ph00 | thast's because the same people who talk about "moral" get huge mob money |
| 02:52.55 | mhall | DaBlade: the trial version will burn at the lowest burn speed your burner has |
| 02:52.59 | mhall | DaBlade: which is probably 4x |
| 02:53.14 | mhall | DaBlade: by the time you'd crack it, you could have just stuck it out and burned nice and slow |
| 02:53.36 | DaBlade | Well, I know of a KDE app that allows you to manually adjust the drive speed. |
| 02:53.40 | mhall | DaBlade: plus for an image that hopelessly bizarre, you'd best not fuck around with speedy burning to begin with |
| 02:54.03 | mhall | DaBlade: dude, don't dick with it like that. if you put in a bad key, cdrwin accepts it and then corrupts its output. |
| 02:54.04 | DaBlade | Not really, cracking is a breeze. I just go to crackspider or astalavista, find what I need, kill a few popups and that's it. |
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| 02:54.17 | DaBlade | Oh. |
| 02:54.17 | mhall | DaBlade: just do it the right way and control your variables |
| 02:54.25 | DaBlade | Ok. |
| 02:54.31 | mhall | DaBlade: you don't want to do ANYTHING else weird except use the weird image |
| 02:54.43 | mhall | DaBlade: that way if it doesn't work you will know exactly ONE thing is responsible |
| 02:54.44 | jelly-home | DaBlade: did you try cdrdao on your bin/cue? |
| 02:54.52 | mhall | DaBlade: instead of wondering which of 10 things fucked it up |
| 02:55.01 | DaBlade | jelly-home: I wouldn't know what to do with it... |
| 02:55.09 | jelly-home | DaBlade: burn it? |
| 02:55.19 | DaBlade | jelly-home: I burnt half.. |
| 02:55.37 | DaBlade | jelly-home: It's a 2 disk (1.4GB) bin/cue image |
| 02:55.42 | DaBlade | K3b will only burn the first disk |
| 02:55.48 | jelly-home | funny. |
| 02:56.05 | mhall | DaBlade: what happens if you burn onto DVD |
| 02:56.09 | jelly-home | well, maybe cdrdao supports it. |
| 02:56.34 | mhall | DaBlade: maybe it is a single filesystem made from multiple CDs |
| 02:56.37 | DaBlade | mhall: I'd rather redownload the movie than waste a DVDr experimenting with the crap. |
| 02:56.58 | mhall | DaBlade: also, try looking inside with isobuster (windows tool) which i am 95% sure i ran in wine before |
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| 02:56.59 | jelly-home | DaBlade: ... but I've never seen such an image so I don't know. |
| 02:57.08 | mhall | DaBlade: that will tell you if it's one FS inside or not |
| 02:57.13 | DaBlade | I used Isobuster in Wine once before |
| 02:57.19 | DaBlade | Shareware |
| 02:57.28 | DaBlade | You can't extract stuff with it without cracking it |
| 02:57.32 | DaBlade | Only see what's inside |
| 02:57.38 | mhall | DaBlade: my bet for you is, it's one FS, because i don't think that bin/cue can have two seperate discs |
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| 02:57.44 | mhall | DaBlade: not true, you can |
| 02:57.54 | mhall | DaBlade: i extracted shit last week with it without any codes |
| 02:57.59 | DaBlade | You couldn't last time I tried |
| 02:58.07 | mhall | DaBlade: i used it at a corporate PC so i KNOW i didn't crack it |
| 02:58.16 | mhall | DaBlade: because if anybody found out i'd get fired, etc. |
| 02:58.27 | jelly-home | DaBlade: so, you have one 1.4GB bin and one cue? Can you upload the cue somewhere? |
| 02:58.28 | DaBlade | Was it already installed or did you install it? |
| 02:58.38 | mhall | DaBlade: i dled and installed |
| 02:58.59 | mhall | DaBlade: some features don't work in the freemode it lets you select in its startup dialog |
| 02:59.02 | DaBlade | FILE "dmc.bin" BINARY |
| 02:59.03 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.04 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.05 | mhall | DaBlade: but the basic features do work |
| 02:59.09 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.10 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.10 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.14 | DaBlade | The contents of the cue file ^ |
| 02:59.33 | mhall | DaBlade: i think you'd best try isobuster on it |
| 02:59.43 | DaBlade | Ok, I will. |
| 02:59.44 | mhall | DaBlade: meanwhile start the new download while you are cracking it open |
| 02:59.57 | DaBlade | I just hope the GUI doesn't look sporked like it did last time I used it in Wine. |
| 02:59.57 | mhall | DaBlade: that way you don't waste time if you can't get it to work |
| 03:00.02 | mhall | DaBlade: but you save time if you can |
| 03:00.06 | Cooner750 | Why am I getting "Command not found" when trying to use the setenv command? |
| 03:00.14 | abrotman | you messed up your path |
| 03:00.17 | abrotman | oh wait |
| 03:00.26 | abrotman | you mean .. export ? |
| 03:00.32 | Cooner750 | I want to add to the path |
| 03:00.37 | Cooner750 | I want to add the directory /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin |
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| 03:00.48 | abrotman | i think setenv is csh .. use export to set it in bash |
| 03:00.53 | mhall | Cooner750: try using export $PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin |
| 03:01.07 | abrotman | no |
| 03:01.10 | mhall | Cooner750: setenv is not a bourne expresssion |
| 03:01.16 | abrotman | toomany $ |
| 03:01.17 | mhall | Cooner750: try using export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin |
| 03:01.26 | mhall | abrotman: i saw it so soon as you said 'no' |
| 03:01.28 | ph00 | I got an error |
| 03:01.30 | mhall | doh! |
| 03:01.42 | mhall | ph00: yes, you erroneously didn't say what error |
| 03:01.45 | jelly-home | !doesn't work |
| 03:01.46 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 03:01.47 | Cooner750 | Good it works now. Thanks |
| 03:01.47 | mhall | ph00: which is an error in itself |
| 03:02.01 | ph00 | that would be a mistake |
| 03:02.04 | ph00 | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.093-1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 03:02.14 | ph00 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 03:02.15 | ph00 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.17 | abrotman | i bet there's more to the error :) |
| 03:02.28 | ph00 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 03:02.34 | ph00 | that's it |
| 03:02.37 | abrotman | nothing above it ? |
| 03:02.46 | ph00 | oh yeah |
| 03:02.56 | abrotman | how about paste the whole thing somwehere |
| 03:03.04 | ph00 | yeah |
| 03:03.06 | abrotman | !fix abrotman's fingers |
| 03:03.29 | mhall | ph00: there's probably a kernel version problem |
| 03:03.36 | mhall | ph00: keep reading the output |
| 03:03.40 | ph00 | no it's not big, I can paste here, it's only a couple of lines. (wrong kernel) |
| 03:03.46 | ph00 | yes it is |
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| 03:03.53 | ph00 | This version of udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.15, upgrade aborted. |
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| 03:04.12 | JackieBrown | have anyone ever created a local repository |
| 03:04.13 | abrotman | ph00: so install a new kernel .. wha tcpu do you have ? |
| 03:04.18 | abrotman | !tell JackieBrown about repository |
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| 03:04.35 | ph00 | AMD duron 1600 |
| 03:04.51 | jelly-home | k7 |
| 03:04.52 | Emiml | JackieBrown: sure |
| 03:04.55 | abrotman | ph00: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 03:05.03 | ph00 | yes |
| 03:05.05 | abrotman | jelly-home: are you sure? |
| 03:05.19 | abrotman | ph00: sooo .. apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k7 udev |
| 03:05.20 | JackieBrown | I tried this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html but I will lok at that guide |
| 03:05.21 | jelly-home | abrotman: umm. no. |
| 03:05.27 | abrotman | jelly-home: i was joking |
| 03:05.32 | jelly-home | 686 will work. |
| 03:05.42 | abrotman | k7! |
| 03:05.44 | Thanatermesis | dpkg, awk |
| 03:05.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, awk is a pattern scanning and text processing language invented by Aho, Weinberger and Kernighan. or awk! awk! awk! I'm a bird, or help! I can't grep my awk!, or see http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/awk/awk1line.txt for nifty oneliners |
| 03:05.53 | jelly-home | abrotman: oh, but I'm really not sure... |
| 03:06.00 | abrotman | it is k7 |
| 03:06.06 | ph00 | my cpu is k7, I know that much |
| 03:06.09 | abrotman | amd has been k7 since like .. 700Mhz |
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| 03:07.17 | jelly-home | ah, so everything newer than real k6 cpus is k7 (or k8 if amd64)? |
| 03:07.28 | abrotman | yeah |
| 03:07.31 | abrotman | afaik anyways |
| 03:07.31 | JackieBrown | abrotman: the guides seem the same |
| 03:07.38 | abrotman | !own repository |
| 03:07.40 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:07.41 | ph00 | abrotman linux-image-2.6-k7 udev? what's udev? |
| 03:08.03 | jelly-home | ph00: udev is a thing you apparently tried to install. |
| 03:08.05 | JackieBrown | but I get W: Failed to fetch file:/usr/local//usr/local/pool/googleearth_4.0.1693-1_i386.deb |
| 03:08.11 | ph00 | ah |
| 03:08.11 | abrotman | JackieBrown: malformed somehow |
| 03:08.14 | ph00 | OK |
| 03:08.21 | JackieBrown | well I know that :) |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | !tell JackieBrown about repository howto |
| 03:08.31 | ph00 | someone said there are no stupid questions right? |
| 03:08.33 | ph00 | right? |
| 03:08.33 | abrotman | !tell JackieBrown about debian repository |
| 03:08.39 | ph00 | ...right?!? |
| 03:08.48 | abrotman | JackieBrown: doh .. all the same! |
| 03:08.51 | abrotman | i thought tyhey differed |
| 03:08.58 | jelly-home | JackieBrown: deb file:/where/ever/ ./ |
| 03:09.05 | abrotman | JackieBrown: what is the source you have ? |
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| 03:09.22 | JackieBrown | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html |
| 03:09.29 | abrotman | JackieBrown: i meant in your sources.list |
| 03:09.37 | jelly-home | JackieBrown: ... that was for a simple one-directory repo. |
| 03:09.43 | mhall | Thanatermesis: fwiw, awk is awesome! |
| 03:09.54 | JackieBrown | deb file:/usr/local/ unstable main |
| 03:10.22 | abrotman | and in your Packages file .. you've goofed i guess |
| 03:10.44 | abrotman | ! |
| 03:10.50 | ph00 | conflicts... |
| 03:10.53 | JackieBrown | apt-get update works and apt-cache sees everything |
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| 03:11.05 | abrotman | JackieBrown: apt-cache policy googleearth |
| 03:11.12 | abrotman | JackieBrown: what is the candidate ? |
| 03:11.16 | Thanatermesis | mhall, yeah, i know.. just looking the response of dpkg ;) btw... you know awk ? im trying to append a block of text in a section |
| 03:12.31 | JackieBrown | 500 file: unstable/main Packages |
| 03:12.33 | DaBlade | mhall: According to isoBuster, the fucking image is broken. :( |
| 03:12.48 | JackieBrown | Candidate: 4.0.1693-1 |
| 03:13.16 | JackieBrown | I know it's the same as what is in debian, it is just an example |
| 03:13.23 | abrotman | JackieBrown: in your Packages file .. what's the location of the package ? |
| 03:13.48 | JackieBrown | "/usr/local/pool |
| 03:14.10 | abrotman | i think it's just supposed to be pool/ |
| 03:14.13 | ph00 | problem again: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8089 |
| 03:14.22 | abrotman | but you've read the howto .. i haven't |
| 03:14.23 | zignig | cafuego: did you ever find bob2 |
| 03:14.24 | zignig | ? |
| 03:14.46 | cafuego | zignig: Not directly, but I was assured he's fine (now) by someone who knows him. |
| 03:14.51 | abrotman | ph00: firstly .. linux-image-2.6-k7 |
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| 03:15.03 | abrotman | secondly .. run apt-get -f install |
| 03:15.04 | zignig | cafuego: can I pm ? |
| 03:15.09 | cafuego | sure |
| 03:15.17 | abrotman | you found him?! |
| 03:15.37 | ph00 | abrotman, didn't work. it gave me this output: (going to paste...) |
| 03:15.46 | mhall | Thanatermesis: perhaps i can help |
| 03:15.52 | mhall | DaBlade: what does it say that the problem is |
| 03:16.08 | DaBlade | unreadable file |
| 03:16.11 | abrotman | cafuego: what do you mean .. 'now' ? |
| 03:16.12 | DaBlade | Something like that |
| 03:16.17 | mhall | DaBlade: you can try ultraiso |
| 03:16.26 | DaBlade | Either way, I'm downloading from a different torrent now, I already wiped those |
| 03:17.18 | multi_io | Great. After running mplayer, xawtv only displays a black screen until I restart X. |
| 03:17.54 | multi_io | why is akk the Linux video stuff so f*cking fragile? |
| 03:18.00 | multi_io | *all |
| 03:18.00 | ph00 | I probably mispelles the command line, going to try again with linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 03:18.02 | jelly-home | multi_io: try switching to console and back first |
| 03:18.39 | abrotman | ph00: what happened to the -f output ? |
| 03:19.04 | cafuego | abrotman: i wish i knew :( |
| 03:19.05 | multi_io | jelly-home: nope, doesn't work |
| 03:19.31 | abrotman | cafuego: you don't know more .. just that he's okay? |
| 03:19.31 | ph00 | I didn't run it. going to do it now. I did misspell the line and then run the right one but I still get some conflicts. running -f now |
| 03:19.32 | Ronin | abrotman: go to bed already man |
| 03:19.48 | cafuego | abrotman: correct |
| 03:19.48 | abrotman | Ronin: i'm about to go as soon as ph00 tells me that he's really a gerbil |
| 03:19.54 | jelly-home | multi_io: eh. do you use a dirty vo driver for mplayer like vidix? |
| 03:19.54 | abrotman | cafuego: eh .. okay |
| 03:20.09 | cafuego | All I know it that it implies he was not OK at some stage. |
| 03:20.13 | DaBlade | mhall: You were right, IsoBuster did allow extraction. But damn, the Wine crew need to work on the GUIs. This looks like a mess of epic proportions. |
| 03:20.33 | abrotman | cafuego: yes .. which is not good |
| 03:20.36 | abrotman | obviously |
| 03:20.45 | Ronin | but good now is good |
| 03:20.55 | multi_io | jelly-home: I use xv |
| 03:21.03 | jelly-home | multi_io: if you use Xv for both mplayer and xawtv, that should work, you should report a bug (I just don't know for which package, xserver maybe). |
| 03:21.48 | ph00 | abrotman -f wants to instaòò 26, remove 18 and upgrade 26 packages. I'm pasting the output |
| 03:22.24 | abrotman | instaòò eh .. sounds like a kde thing .. like an install mixed with a shin OOOHHH .. SHINY |
| 03:22.54 | ph00 | abrotman http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8091 |
| 03:22.59 | abrotman | Ronin: why are you still awake ? |
| 03:23.09 | abrotman | Ronin: how was the ice fishing today? :) |
| 03:23.16 | mhall | DaBlade: did you get the file out |
| 03:23.20 | abrotman | ph00: that's fine |
| 03:23.22 | mhall | DaBlade: do you have adequate dlls in wine |
| 03:23.28 | ph00 | I run then |
| 03:23.35 | Ronin | abrotman: finishing off my beer and going to bed, no ice fishingyet, but if keeps up being this damn cold its not far away |
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| 03:23.49 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:24.32 | ph00 | cold? where do you live ronin? somewhere in tierra del fuego? (maybe australia?) |
| 03:24.38 | Ronin | going to have to start brewing in the garage if this keeps up, too cold to sit outside |
| 03:24.48 | Ronin | ph00: im in new brunswick canada |
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| 03:25.05 | abrotman | Ronin: it was 60 today? |
| 03:25.30 | Ronin | dont know but i was cutting glass all day if you know what i mean |
| 03:25.38 | ph00 | woah. and it's cold in august? I used to live in sweden but you did get some three warm weeks even there? |
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| 03:26.01 | abrotman | Ronin: lovely visual :) |
| 03:26.07 | ph00 | ronin how cold is that |
| 03:26.09 | ph00 | ? |
| 03:26.24 | Ronin | ph00: its nasty right now, friday was hot and humid and rainy,pretty normal this time of year, saturday , brrrr |
| 03:26.29 | ph00 | goddamnit another error |
| 03:26.39 | ph00 | how many degrees? |
| 03:27.16 | Ronin | only about 20ish c today which really isnt that bad but when you take into consideration the previous months temps its nasty |
| 03:27.34 | Ronin | not to mention the change over night |
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| 03:27.44 | ph00 | you mean 20C under? |
| 03:27.50 | abrotman | over |
| 03:27.56 | Ronin | above |
| 03:27.58 | abrotman | about 65F |
| 03:27.59 | ph00 | that's not cold |
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| 03:28.02 | jelly-home | ph00: 60F =~ 15C |
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| 03:28.10 | ph00 | I'm used to C |
| 03:28.15 | jelly-home | google: 65F to C |
| 03:28.16 | ph00 | and 20C is not cold |
| 03:28.18 | pjb | what's the debian equivalent of insserv or chkconfig or rc-update ? |
| 03:28.30 | Ronin | ph00: it is when it was about 15 more then that for the past month and a humidity level of about 70% |
| 03:28.32 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 03:28.36 | ph00 | was "born metric" actually |
| 03:28.38 | pjb | Thanks. |
| 03:28.42 | dvs | !convert 65F to C |
| 03:28.44 | dpkg | 65F cannot be converted to C: conformability error |
| 03:28.50 | jelly-home | 18C. |
| 03:28.51 | abrotman | bot can't do it |
| 03:29.00 | ph00 | well yes if humidity is high even 20+ can feels like cold |
| 03:29.00 | Ronin | heh |
| 03:29.26 | Ronin | right my old ass is out of here, time for nappies |
| 03:30.03 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:30.13 | abrotman | ph00: are you all fixed up yet? |
| 03:30.16 | ph00 | in sweden you could go out in -10C and it diodn't feel like "very" cold |
| 03:30.25 | ph00 | but air is dry up thee |
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| 03:30.37 | ph00 | abrotman looks like I'm stuck |
| 03:30.44 | abrotman | paste it! |
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| 03:32.34 | ph00 | abrotman -f wants to install some packages that requires a 2.6.15 kernel, but when I try to install the kernel it wants the packages first. I'm actually thinking about switching the sources back to sarcge and try another approach... but I don't know if that would work, now a lot of packages ahve already been changed/removed/etc |
| 03:32.46 | abrotman | paste it! |
| 03:32.52 | ph00 | abrotman, going to paste |
| 03:33.24 | ph00 | I'm going to paste the laste three four commasnds so you can follow all the story |
| 03:33.31 | ph00 | commands |
| 03:33.38 | _Atomo64_ | hey... what can I do if when trying to restart a firewall it says "Unable to load iptables module (ip_tables), aborting."? |
| 03:33.44 | _Atomo64_ | and btw... why neither apf nor bfd are available in debian? |
| 03:34.14 | abrotman | _Atomo64_: uname -a |
| 03:34.16 | ph00 | weel I'll paste what is left in the terminal window anyway... |
| 03:34.24 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:35.57 | _Atomo64_ | abrotman: it is a VPS, using kernel 2.4.20-smp |
| 03:35.58 | mhall | ph00: this can be made to work, but it will take some patience |
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| 03:36.02 | ph00 | a thinderstorm is coming... |
| 03:36.06 | abrotman | _Atomo64_: uname -a |
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| 03:36.12 | abrotman | ph00: so what? |
| 03:36.17 | mhall | ph00: better but ShockTreatment out in the storm |
| 03:36.31 | ph00 | mhall, no problem, I have a refrigerator full of beers: I got patience |
| 03:36.35 | Surt | I have an older version of debian and cannot seem to figure out where to change hostname and IP info |
| 03:36.37 | abrotman | _Atomo64_: i wanted the whole string |
| 03:36.52 | Surt | there is no /etc/network/interfaces fire |
| 03:36.53 | abrotman | Surt: /etc/hostname .. man 5 interfaces |
| 03:36.57 | _Atomo64_ | abrotman: 2.4.20-021stab028.17.777-smp |
| 03:36.59 | abrotman | how old isit |
| 03:37.01 | dvs | fire!?! |
| 03:37.01 | ph00 | abrotman, nothing, I just said it, no particular meaning in that |
| 03:37.03 | Surt | *file |
| 03:37.08 | Surt | lol |
| 03:37.09 | abrotman | _Atomo64_: that's not a debian kernel .. if they forgot iptables .. not our fault |
| 03:37.31 | abrotman | (and probably an insecure kernel) |
| 03:37.58 | _Atomo64_ | abrotman: I know it isn't a debian kernel... but it was working some secs ago |
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| 03:38.10 | ph00 | abrotman: here's the output http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8092 |
| 03:38.15 | abrotman | _Atomo64_: so iptables was tehre .. and now it's not ? |
| 03:38.19 | Surt | not sure what version of debian it is |
| 03:38.31 | Surt | how wold I find that? |
| 03:38.34 | Surt | *would |
| 03:38.38 | kasper | will bash work for scripting automatic random tasks (commands)? |
| 03:38.47 | abrotman | Surt: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:38.54 | abrotman | kasper: it hsould |
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| 03:39.08 | Surt | 3.0 |
| 03:39.09 | _Atomo64_ | abrotman: but I accidentally choosed the upgrade option for APF, which just downloads and recompiled... which caused the settings to be reset. So I had to change the network interface and some other settings... so I was wondering what should I look for |
| 03:39.11 | abrotman | ph00: it tells you how to fix it :) |
| 03:39.15 | Surt | i inherited tha machine |
| 03:39.25 | ph00 | you mean apt-get -f install? |
| 03:39.40 | kasper | abrotman: thanks |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | ph00: # touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.01 | Surt | ok, the file /etc/network/interfaces does exist but is empty |
| 03:40.11 | abrotman | ph00: assuming you want an SMP kernel . which i doubt you do |
| 03:40.18 | Surt | so where would it be pulling the ip and domain name info? |
| 03:40.35 | abrotman | Surt: should be from that file ... |
| 03:40.46 | ph00 | I may want a smp kernel if I knew it's good for my PC, is it? |
| 03:40.55 | abrotman | Surt: you might have to poke through init files and see if they set in a script |
| 03:40.59 | abrotman | ph00: how many CPUs ? |
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| 03:41.04 | abrotman | !smp |
| 03:41.04 | dpkg | [smp] (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing |
| 03:41.18 | ph00 | one. OK I get it, I'll stick with the regular one |
| 03:41.25 | Surt | abrotman, I was afraid of that |
| 03:41.28 | Surt | :( |
| 03:41.45 | abrotman | Surt: check /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 03:42.43 | abrotman | Surt: heck .. look in /etc/inittab and make sure it's booting to runlevel 2 and that some RH admin didn't make it boot to runlevel 5 |
| 03:43.10 | abrotman | ph00: is it going ? |
| 03:43.11 | Surt | k |
| 03:43.15 | Surt | thanks for the tips |
| 03:43.25 | Surt | guess I'll go script diving |
| 03:43.32 | abrotman | Surt: or look in /etc/networking/ also |
| 03:43.57 | ph00 | abrotman: nope. going to paste |
| 03:44.04 | abrotman | why not! |
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| 03:45.37 | abrotman | where is it? |
| 03:46.28 | ph00 | wait, I'm trying -f again |
| 03:46.32 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:47.15 | ph00 | ... it told me to... |
| 03:47.24 | abrotman | fuck off and die? |
| 03:47.27 | ph00 | "and you do anything you're told?" |
| 03:47.30 | ph00 | no... |
| 03:47.45 | ph00 | it told me to try -f |
| 03:47.54 | abrotman | so what's the output of apt-get -f install |
| 03:47.55 | ph00 | that would be funny |
| 03:48.11 | ph00 | if I got output "would you fucking live me alone?!?" |
| 03:48.21 | ph00 | its' still going |
| 03:48.24 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 03:48.50 | abrotman | done yet? |
| 03:49.09 | dvs | is it done yet? is it done yet? is it done yet? .... |
| 03:49.09 | ph00 | looks somewhat better than before, it's actually setting up stuff... |
| 03:49.23 | ph00 | hehe |
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| 03:50.23 | abrotman | dvs: go watch icicles melt! |
| 03:50.32 | ph00 | some failures... |
| 03:50.35 | dvs | ummmm... ok |
| 03:50.37 | abrotman | i have many |
| 03:50.53 | ph00 | Setting up python-numeric (24.2-5) ... |
| 03:50.53 | ph00 | 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback |
| 03:50.53 | ph00 | Setting up python-cairo (1.2.0-1) ... |
| 03:50.53 | ph00 | 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback |
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| 03:51.31 | abrotman | try apt-get -f install again |
| 03:51.34 | ph00 | did I just got kicked off for pasting? |
| 03:51.37 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:51.40 | dvs | ph00: yup |
| 03:51.41 | ph00 | ok |
| 03:51.42 | abrotman | it was four lines |
| 03:51.52 | ph00 | how is max? three? |
| 03:52.10 | abrotman | it's four |
| 03:52.14 | abrotman | you hit four . out you go |
| 03:52.24 | ph00 | so five would kcik me off... |
| 03:52.27 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:52.28 | abrotman | anyways |
| 03:52.32 | abrotman | apt-get -f install |
| 03:52.37 | ph00 | ok then it's three max allowed, as I said |
| 03:52.48 | ph00 | as i meant, anyway |
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| 03:53.28 | ph00 | wait now I have something to choose and I don't know what to do, going to paste |
| 03:53.37 | dvs | panic!!!!!!! |
| 03:54.34 | ph00 | http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=8093 |
| 03:55.04 | abrotman | that's up to you .. have you customised your gdm install ? |
| 03:55.20 | Surt | that was kinda fscked up |
| 03:55.41 | abrotman | ph00: you're gong to have to keep running apt-get -f install and apt-get -u dist-upgrade .. until the system is all done |
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| 03:55.48 | abrotman | Surt: that being ? |
| 03:55.58 | dvs | Windows? |
| 03:56.07 | Surt | they had the IP address set in the rcS script |
| 03:56.14 | ph00 | hmm.. no I don't think so. I have the standard gdm that comes with debian, but I might have changed something with all those apt-gets |
| 03:56.26 | dvs | ph00: say "I" |
| 03:56.26 | abrotman | then just pick Y |
| 03:56.29 | abrotman | Y |
| 03:56.30 | dvs | I! |
| 03:56.34 | abrotman | why is my font goofy! |
| 03:56.46 | Surt | that's ok |
| 03:57.20 | Surt | the reason I am needing to change the IP address is that the machine is being replaced, but I would like to keep the old one up for a while in case I forgot to transfer something |
| 03:57.41 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:59.08 | ph00 | time is 5 in the morning here and it's thunderstorm out... time for a beer |
| 03:59.21 | dvs | UK? |
| 03:59.29 | ph00 | HEY -f worked without errors |
| 03:59.32 | ph00 | cool |
| 04:00.25 | ph00 | no actually, it's almost 6 (central EU) |
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| 04:01.11 | ph00 | in UK a beer would be a "lager" I gu3ess :-) |
| 04:01.12 | Nurbs | mhm :) |
| 04:01.26 | Nurbs | .oO( bitte ein bit ) |
| 04:01.54 | ph00 | some 1000miles south... |
| 04:02.05 | Nurbs | cervisia? |
| 04:02.18 | ph00 | still south |
| 04:02.32 | ph00 | suther italy |
| 04:02.35 | ph00 | n |
| 04:02.39 | ph00 | southern |
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| 04:02.55 | Nurbs | I'm thirsty now :) |
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| 04:03.17 | ph00 | you should hear me speaking english, I sound just like tony soprano... |
| 04:03.35 | Nurbs | heh |
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| 04:03.49 | Nurbs | there's a truth in every TV series |
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| 04:05.28 | ph00 | actually, that accent is like people from southern italy learn english by listening and talking. those who study it in shool, expecially people from northhern italy, have an accent that sounds almost spanish |
| 04:05.40 | rcmiv | afer install, testing apt sources fails to connect...how can I bypass network at this poit |
| 04:06.34 | NetEcho | liable you arround? |
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| 04:06.43 | ph00 | running dist-upgrade now. kernel install went smoothly |
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| 04:06.56 | lontra | i am having a problem with portmap and NFSD |
| 04:06.59 | lontra | when i boot it takes forever to start portmap and NFSD...my boot takes about 5 minutes |
| 04:07.11 | lontra | and when i try to shutdown the kernel halts at stopping the portmap daemon |
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| 04:07.34 | wlwl | hi, where is the info to interpret Kismet display? it is not in the documentation file. and there is no /usr/share/doc/kismet. |
| 04:08.03 | lontra | also it takes about 5 minutes after e16 starts for gkrellm to start |
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| 04:15.52 | rcmiv | on the 1st boot after install, my network card is not working, how can I not do apt sources check at that point? |
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| 04:26.40 | seatouch | can anyone give me a guide on setting up bind .. and setting up reverse dns for ips ? |
| 04:26.46 | eth0x | can someone please tell me how to setup ssh on debian |
| 04:27.12 | seatouch | eth0x apt-get install openssh |
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| 04:27.42 | Festyur | how do u change kmenu icons size? |
| 04:27.45 | eth0x | alright cool thank you. |
| 04:28.16 | eth0x | openssh not found. |
| 04:28.21 | Festyur | any1? |
| 04:28.29 | seatouch | eth0x apt-get update |
| 04:28.31 | seatouch | first that |
| 04:28.45 | eth0x | oks |
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| 04:29.12 | MiK[3]Zz|home | i just want to say that only nabz, really fucking nabz can use debian |
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| 04:30.25 | Festyur | plzplzplzplz |
| 04:30.35 | eth0x | haha |
| 04:31.04 | stoned | what is a nabz? |
| 04:31.30 | eth0x | maybe he means 'noobs' |
| 04:31.37 | eth0x | who knows. |
| 04:31.41 | stoned | doesn't surprise me |
| 04:31.56 | stoned | I got made fun of for being a debian user on doomsday engine channel |
| 04:32.24 | eth0x | seatouch: did the update openssh package not found still. |
| 04:32.49 | zignig | stoned: 'the geek shall inherit the earth' , compilation 25:17 |
| 04:32.54 | zignig | eth0x: apt-get install ssh |
| 04:33.29 | eth0x | thats already installed. |
| 04:33.58 | zignig | eth0x: ssh should be there then. |
| 04:34.23 | zignig | eth0x: you may not have installed the server, dpkg-reconfigure -plow ssh , and ask for the sshd server to be installed. |
| 04:35.28 | eth0x | and what command line do i use to run the server? |
| 04:36.00 | zignig | eth0x: /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 04:38.06 | eth0x | sshd: no hostkeys avalible. (couldnt load /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key etc) |
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| 04:39.07 | triplc | Hello everyone |
| 04:40.01 | zignig | eth0x: are you root? |
| 04:40.19 | eth0x | nope |
| 04:40.28 | triplc | I'd like to get an advice. I want to have a (distro) CD that can install a decent Debian desktop, which then, can easily turn into a server with apt-get/aptitude. |
| 04:40.29 | eth0x | do i have to login as root to run it? |
| 04:40.42 | triplc | Please advice. |
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| 04:40.56 | jelly-home | eth0x: to (re)start the service, yes. |
| 04:41.16 | triplc | I spend severall days search and test (with vmware) but still cannot find. |
| 04:43.20 | eth0x | connection refused when i attempt to connect. hmm |
| 04:43.35 | zignig | eth0x: firewall? |
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| 04:43.50 | eth0x | it's on my local network i just want to be able to connect from my windows box |
| 04:43.53 | eth0x | router.. |
| 04:44.26 | zebalin4 | Anyone going to the LinuxWorld conference in San Francisco next week? |
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| 04:46.15 | pstickne | triplc, just get the debian install CDs? |
| 04:46.23 | eth0x | i didnt config anything.. maybe that? or i need to port foward (if i can figure out my router pass lol) :[ |
| 04:46.28 | pstickne | triplc, then install the Desktop and Server main package groups |
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| 04:47.19 | triplc | pstickne, sorry for not making it clear; I want to teach student using Linux as servers (which is a sort of new course in my education center)... |
| 04:47.50 | pstickne | triplc, what's wrong with a normal Debian install CD? |
| 04:48.01 | triplc | The student need to learn to install (which is start point). The official netinstall is slow, because it required network. |
| 04:48.02 | stoned | eth0x, that is why you should always put your login:password on a sticky note and stick it to your monitor |
| 04:48.32 | pstickne | triplc, no, get the full-install CDs? |
| 04:48.35 | triplc | A set of 14-CDs maybe scare them away --they are Ms users to begin with. |
| 04:49.41 | pstickne | triplc, ohh. make a custom CD? or could you host on a local server? |
| 04:49.42 | triplc | at first, I hope that a proxy server will help speed up the netinstall, but it does seem so. |
| 04:49.59 | pstickne | triplc, it should if caching is working once things are cached... |
| 04:50.02 | stoned | I have a 52x cdrom, and it never goes beyong 500~kb/s. My internet connection actually goes faster at about 600-700kb/s |
| 04:50.04 | triplc | Yes, I have local server. |
| 04:50.26 | pstickne | triplc, just grab everything to that and use that as a source directly? |
| 04:50.34 | stoned | that is what apt-get tells me btw |
| 04:50.51 | triplc | pstickne, how much disk space I need to mirror all Debian stuff. |
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| 04:50.58 | pstickne | maybe it's like a 2x CD ;) |
| 04:51.13 | triplc | If I can, maybe I will make a distro mirror for internal use. |
| 04:51.29 | stoned | !mirrors |
| 04:51.30 | dpkg | i heard debian mirrors is use apt-setup if you are running sarge, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror, or ask me about <apt-spy> |
| 04:51.37 | pstickne | triplc, not sure. it seems like you get everything you needed a few GB, 14 cd's at most? ;) |
| 04:52.12 | triplc | Oh, then that's not problem, let me check debian.org to see how much space it require. |
| 04:53.25 | seatouch | tell me a good ftp server |
| 04:54.01 | karsten | ~/msg kdpkg ftpd |
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| 04:56.04 | karsten | Um. Surry. |
| 04:56.38 | LinuxHelp | I'm getting "Delayed Write Error" failed to write the contents of file .... from my Win Xp box when it trys to write to my samba share. The error occurs 50% of the time, while it works the other %50 of the time (at least no error message). |
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| 04:56.49 | LinuxHelp | Any ideas? |
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| 04:57.25 | karsten | seatouch: ... however if you _do_ /msg dp;kg ftpd you'll get a set of suggestions, possibly useful. |
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| 04:57.45 | lontra | i'm having performance issues with the kernel when i run an encrypted wireless network and auto eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:57.50 | seatouch | karsten ok sure |
| 04:57.59 | lontra | it boots very slowly and halts at stopping portmap during shutdown |
| 04:58.00 | sanmarcos | how can I grep out blank lines? |
| 04:58.13 | karsten | seatouch: grep -v '^$' |
| 04:58.29 | triplc | pstickne, wow!!!! |
| 04:58.29 | karsten | sanmarcos: ^^ |
| 04:58.36 | seatouch | anyone know where webmin config file is located ? |
| 04:58.41 | sanmarcos | egrep -v "^(#+|\s+#+|^$)" ahh the shit! |
| 04:58.48 | sanmarcos | thanks karsten |
| 04:58.52 | triplc | pstickne: it's not easy to mirror debian repo!! |
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| 04:59.38 | triplc | pstickne: I am listing those files on a repo (using http), and see that all the s390, powerpc, arm,.... all those files are mixing up! |
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| 05:00.07 | triplc | So, I think, it's not 14-CD. Adding all those platform, it will make a hughe space. |
| 05:00.23 | triplc | Where we need only i-386 repo. |
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| 05:01.39 | karsten | triplc: Has anyone suggested apt-cache yet? |
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| 05:02.11 | triplc | no... but what's that? |
| 05:02.16 | karsten | triplc: it's a Debian archive caching proxy. Set it up on a local machine, point your clients at it, only onne copy of each package is fetched from archives remotely. |
| 05:02.33 | karsten | !apt-proxy |
| 05:02.33 | dpkg | from memory, apt-proxy is a cool proxy for lots of Debian machines on a network together. |
| 05:02.37 | karsten | Erm. apt-proxy, not apt-cache |
| 05:02.48 | karsten | apt-cache show apt-proxy for more details. |
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| 05:02.56 | triplc | oh... it sound cool. |
| 05:03.02 | triplc | Let me check apt-proxy then |
| 05:03.11 | karsten | http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:03.11 | NetEcho | liable you arround? |
| 05:03.46 | karsten | triplc: It's a pretty good solution in that it only caches opportunistically: y ou're not downloading a lot of crud you don't actually need. |
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| 05:04.07 | triplc | it sounds good. |
| 05:05.13 | karsten | triplc: Thought i might ;-) |
| 05:05.18 | triplc | :) |
| 05:05.18 | karsten | s/i/it/ |
| 05:06.35 | lontra | can someone look at my interfaces file and tell me if there is something wrong with it that would interfere with the kernel properly starting and shutdown in particular dealing with portmap --> http://pastebin.ca/128744 |
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| 05:08.08 | pstickne | !aptproxy |
| 05:08.27 | pstickne | dpkg aptproxy is http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:08.27 | dpkg | pstickne: okay |
| 05:08.40 | karsten | alontra: A number of difficulties arise when DNS resolution is attempted. |
| 05:09.09 | karsten | lontra: Have you tried booting single-user mode and running sysvinit scripts manually to see where'what the problem is? |
| 05:09.33 | lontra | no...i think it has to do with auto eth1 cause when i comment it out i can boot properly |
| 05:10.16 | triplc | thanks karsten and pstickne, it is installed. Looks kool. |
| 05:10.28 | karsten | triplc: NP. |
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| 05:13.53 | deadcat | how do i test a hdd for bad sector or whatever its called? what up karsten |
| 05:14.07 | deadcat | karsten: didnt go to rick's ? |
| 05:14.10 | karsten | deadcat: `badblocks |
| 05:14.23 | deadcat | karsten: ah. how do i scan for badblocks |
| 05:14.37 | karsten | de... and no, that's not just the neighborhood you live in ;-) |
| 05:14.43 | karsten | deadcat: nope. Was going to ask if this was a cabal night. |
| 05:15.00 | deadcat | karsten: HAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:15.27 | deadcat | karsten: i was there. but i have to leave early. have to wake up really early tomorrow and drive to sf for a race. |
| 05:15.48 | |ryan| | Apt-proxy rocks |
| 05:16.03 | deadcat | how do i scan for badblocks on my hdd? |
| 05:16.19 | pstickne | triplc, have fun :) |
| 05:16.28 | triplc | yep |
| 05:16.37 | pstickne | deadcat, badblocks, but maybe better, fsck with the appropriate option |
| 05:17.05 | deadcat | pstickne: i just did fsck /dev/sda1 and it says clean.. |
| 05:17.08 | pstickne | (I think it's -c with ext2/3, don't really recall :) |
| 05:17.16 | deadcat | thanks |
| 05:17.17 | pstickne | deadcat, you need to tell it check the bad blocks |
| 05:17.23 | deadcat | ah |
| 05:18.07 | pstickne | deadcat, actually, I made a post on that :) |
| 05:18.21 | pstickne | http://blog.flawedaxiom.com/ |
| 05:18.22 | |ryan| | yes, it's -c |
| 05:18.23 | pstickne | deadcat, 3rd now |
| 05:18.25 | deadcat | pstickne: thanks |
| 05:19.06 | deadcat | |ryan|: thanks for confirmation. i was gonna throw the 6gig laptop hdd away. hehehe |
| 05:27.00 | seatouch | how do i check the info for what i have installed via apt-get? |
| 05:27.20 | deadcat | seatouch: dpkg --get-selections |
| 05:27.30 | deadcat | pstickne: i see you're using gallery2. |
| 05:27.48 | pstickne | deadcat, ohh, haha, I need to update that |
| 05:28.01 | pstickne | deadcat, it's just proof that PHP can be used for good. |
| 05:28.15 | deadcat | pstickne: ah.. i wrote mine in php as well.. |
| 05:28.21 | seatouch | deadcat if i wannt to find where the webmin files are what do i do? |
| 05:28.31 | deadcat | seatouch: dpkg -L webmin |
| 05:28.50 | seatouch | thanks |
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| 05:33.52 | astronut | ok, i am having issues...i moved my install over from one hard drive to another using a live cd, changed my grub config accordingly, chrooted into the system and ran install-grub /dev/hda (the new hard drive) - when grub tries to boot, i get loading stage 1.5 Error 2 |
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| 05:35.24 | pstickne | http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html |
| 05:36.06 | astronut | pstickne: yes, i know the error code |
| 05:36.12 | astronut | but i don't know WHY it gives that error |
| 05:36.27 | elbixio | hi everybody. is it possible to have a dhcp server for our computer lab if we already have a dhcp server for our whole network? |
| 05:37.02 | astronut | elbixio: if you go with a router between the two and subnet them off |
| 05:37.24 | pstickne | astronut, what config does your grub show? |
| 05:37.30 | elbixio | astronut, hhhmm i see |
| 05:37.56 | astronut | pstickne: how so? |
| 05:38.28 | Dewi | I don't seem to have a mkfs.xfs here, on debian testing |
| 05:39.02 | Dewi | isn't it supposed to have been in the kernel for some time now? |
| 05:39.50 | seatouch | when i do apt-get install webmin .. it says webmin is allready there but i cant seem to be able to access it |
| 05:39.51 | Dewi | maybe it's in xfsprogs package? |
| 05:40.01 | Dewi | seatouch: don't use webmin |
| 05:40.10 | Dewi | seatouch: it is no longer maintained, and is awful shit |
| 05:40.23 | seatouch | Dewi oh .. then any other suggestion ? |
| 05:40.30 | seatouch | Dewi i mean to replace webmin with |
| 05:40.38 | Dewi | seatouch: bash |
| 05:40.44 | seatouch | heh |
| 05:40.47 | Dewi | :) |
| 05:41.00 | seatouch | :P |
| 05:41.03 | pstickne | astronut, when you boot and hit "e", what entries do you have? |
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| 05:41.30 | Dewi | seatouch: are you using stable then? I thought the package had gone from testing/unstable |
| 05:41.33 | astronut | pstickne: can't get to that point |
| 05:41.38 | astronut | thta's stage2 iirc |
| 05:41.49 | Dewi | seatouch: yeah, I see nothing when I apt-cache search it |
| 05:41.51 | pstickne | Dewi, it is in the kernel, but I was wondering the same about a fsck for it :) |
| 05:42.04 | eth0x | hmm.. i've port fowarded to try and get ssh working (port 22 for ip: 127.0.0.1) and i can only connect from it on that box, not my windows one says connection refused |
| 05:42.16 | Dewi | pstickne: well the package 'xfsprogs' might have it... I am just looking now |
| 05:42.16 | seatouch | Dewi im using the one from apt-get install webmin .. default some 1.3 or something |
| 05:42.23 | pstickne | astronut, crazy, that error message you had seems to indicate it can't find the disk in question :( |
| 05:42.30 | seatouch | webmin_1.180 |
| 05:42.32 | pstickne | astronut, well, use a CD to boo. |
| 05:42.41 | astronut | pstickne: ya, done that, then what? :-P |
| 05:42.50 | astronut | pstickne: eslewhere the manual says it's a file problem |
| 05:42.54 | Dewi | seatouch: yeah, I'm just saying the package itself was deleted from debian 6 months ago |
| 05:42.58 | pstickne | astronut, try lilo? |
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| 05:43.11 | seatouch | Dewi haha .. i see |
| 05:43.14 | astronut | pstickne: thinking about it |
| 05:43.16 | Dewi | seatouch: but it's still in stable, until next stable comes out in a few months |
| 05:43.19 | pstickne | 2 : "Selected disk doesn't exist": This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full filename refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. |
| 05:44.11 | astronut | pstickne: look at a diff google result |
| 05:44.13 | pstickne | astronut, best thing is update-grub also seems to take care of lilo :) |
| 05:44.13 | astronut | and they say different |
| 05:44.20 | pstickne | astronut, *shrug* |
| 05:44.24 | astronut | pstickne: i don't have lilo installed i don't think |
| 05:44.24 | astronut | meh |
| 05:44.37 | pstickne | it was installed stock here |
| 05:44.45 | pstickne | oops. I lied. |
| 05:44.48 | astronut | pstickne: maybe i do, i'll have to check |
| 05:45.03 | pstickne | (but I also didn't choose to install -any- extra packages initially :) |
| 05:45.14 | astronut | pstickne: ditto :-P |
| 05:45.38 | pstickne | well, g'luck, I'm off |
| 05:45.51 | astronut | thanks |
| 05:46.12 | seatouch | how do i use a .deb file ? |
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| 05:47.33 | astronut | seatouch: dpkg -i foo.deb installs it |
| 05:47.46 | seatouch | ok thanks |
| 05:48.52 | Dewi | do I need to run fdisk to replace ext3 with a new blank xfs partition? |
| 05:48.58 | Dewi | is it still type 83? |
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| 05:49.32 | Festyur | when trying to compile i get: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
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| 05:52.36 | streuner | Festyur: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 05:53.05 | Festyur | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.6-19 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 05:54.09 | Festyur | streuner: thats all? |
| 05:54.35 | streuner | Festyur: hm? |
| 05:54.41 | Festyur | streuner: nope doesnt work |
| 05:54.47 | Festyur | streuner: :S |
| 05:55.00 | streuner | Festyur: what kind of app do you want compile? |
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| 05:55.09 | Festyur | streuner: kxmame |
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| 05:55.19 | Festyur | streuner: it's not in the repo |
| 05:55.27 | streuner | kde? |
| 05:55.32 | sanmarcos | la pindonga |
| 05:55.36 | Festyur | streuner: yes |
| 05:55.48 | Festyur | sanmarcos: ? |
| 05:56.07 | streuner | Festyur: ask in #debian-kde and install xlibs dev |
| 05:56.44 | Festyur | streuner: do i have to do the first if i do the second? |
| 05:57.06 | streuner | Festyur:dunno hwhat the package called for them in xorg, just use apt-cache search or pdo |
| 05:57.28 | Festyur | allright |
| 05:58.07 | streuner | Festyur: both :-), isn't something mention in README (source) about? |
| 05:59.19 | Festyur | yes |
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| 05:59.23 | Festyur | xlibs-static-dev? |
| 05:59.43 | eth0x | gaahhh does anyone know how to setup ssh? i have port fowarded and it just wont connect. |
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| 05:59.59 | astronut | eth0x: is it installed? |
| 06:00.01 | streuner | Festyur: one sec. |
| 06:00.08 | newpers | what locales should i choose for locale.gen? |
| 06:00.17 | newpers | iso-8859 or utf-8 |
| 06:00.18 | astronut | newpers: the ones that match your languages? |
| 06:00.19 | newpers | or both? |
| 06:00.23 | astronut | both is good |
| 06:00.27 | newpers | astronut: thanks :) |
| 06:00.31 | eth0x | yes i run /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 06:00.35 | eth0x | and try to connect from windows box |
| 06:00.48 | eth0x | and get connection refused. |
| 06:00.59 | astronut | eth0x: try ssh'ing in from localhost |
| 06:01.03 | astronut | on that box |
| 06:01.12 | eth0x | on the debian one? yeah i did it works |
| 06:01.37 | astronut | eth0x: you sure the connection is forwarded right and you have the right IP? |
| 06:01.41 | astronut | does your log show anything? |
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| 06:02.11 | eth0x | i portfowarded: 22/22 ip: 0.0.0.0 |
| 06:02.34 | eth0x | and tryed to connect via my ip, and 127.0.0.1 nethier work both refused. |
| 06:02.45 | eth0x | tryed to port foward using my ip |
| 06:02.47 | eth0x | that didnt work ethier |
| 06:02.55 | astronut | ip = the computer you are forwarding too |
| 06:02.58 | astronut | should be |
| 06:03.00 | astronut | what kind of router? |
| 06:03.15 | eth0x | Billion Bipac 5102 |
| 06:03.23 | astronut | never heard of it |
| 06:03.26 | eth0x | i want to ssh onto my debian box from my windows one.. |
| 06:03.35 | eth0x | not remotely or anything |
| 06:03.59 | stoned | huh |
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| 06:04.18 | Festyur | streuner: ok |
| 06:04.41 | stoned | eth0x, if it isn't localhost, its remote |
| 06:05.12 | astronut | eth0x: what's your network setup? |
| 06:05.24 | eth0x | i want to connect from my windows box - to my debian box. same ip.. |
| 06:05.26 | NetEcho | liable you arround? |
| 06:05.34 | eth0x | what do you mean network setup? :P |
| 06:05.48 | stoned | eth0x, not possible without vpc/wmware/something of the like/colinux |
| 06:05.54 | eth0x | i have 2 computers connected to one router on 256k. |
| 06:06.11 | eth0x | hmmmmm |
| 06:06.11 | stoned | oh its two boxes now |
| 06:06.14 | stoned | man make up your mind |
| 06:06.19 | eth0x | it was 2 boxes all along |
| 06:06.22 | eth0x | ;p |
| 06:06.27 | astronut | eth0x: you don't need to do portforwarding then |
| 06:06.30 | stoned | so whats the pro blem |
| 06:06.34 | astronut | that's only if they're on opposite sides of the router |
| 06:06.35 | stoned | just ssh to your debian ip |
| 06:06.41 | eth0x | but it wont connect |
| 06:06.42 | astronut | just ssh from the windows box to the debian IP |
| 06:06.50 | eth0x | it says connection refused. |
| 06:06.51 | astronut | eth0x: maybe your linux box has a firewall running |
| 06:06.59 | stoned | or maybe sshd isn't running |
| 06:07.11 | stoned | or maybe, just maybe, I need to roll a phatty |
| 06:07.48 | eth0x | i havnt installed a firewall.. if debian does by default then i have one ;/ umm.. i do /etc/init.d/ssh start and it says it started. |
| 06:08.00 | astronut | eth0x: iptables -L |
| 06:08.54 | eth0x | doesnt look like its got a firewall.. |
| 06:09.04 | eth0x | its just umm crap ;/ lol. |
| 06:10.07 | stoned | well if you get a connection refused |
| 06:10.22 | stoned | then it means you don't need to setup port forwarding |
| 06:10.37 | stoned | that was a weird idea |
| 06:10.59 | stoned | now if it was network/destination host unreacheable |
| 06:11.05 | eth0x | i tryed without port forwarding and then tryed with it. nethier worked. i'll try disable the routers firewall |
| 06:11.14 | astronut | eth0x: shouldn't matter |
| 06:11.17 | astronut | that's outside->inside |
| 06:11.19 | stoned | then you might be concerned. Its more than likely your debian box |
| 06:11.19 | astronut | they're both inside |
| 06:11.22 | astronut | are you using the right IP? |
| 06:11.35 | astronut | eth0x: ssh to the debian box (ifconfig eth0's result) NOT the router |
| 06:11.54 | eth0x | i've used 127.0.0.1/localhost and my ip. |
| 06:11.58 | eth0x | all refused. |
| 06:12.00 | stoned | no man |
| 06:12.02 | astronut | no |
| 06:12.07 | astronut | not YOUR ip |
| 06:12.09 | astronut | the OTHER IP |
| 06:12.10 | stoned | you need to connect to the internet fucking network |
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| 06:12.16 | stoned | like 192.168.1fuck.off |
| 06:12.18 | stoned | etc. |
| 06:12.20 | astronut | stoned: you can set him straight |
| 06:12.21 | stoned | er.. typo |
| 06:12.26 | Festyur | streuner: it's fixes |
| 06:12.28 | astronut | haha |
| 06:12.28 | Festyur | streuner: it's fixed |
| 06:12.31 | astronut | i'm going |
| 06:12.32 | astronut | lol |
| 06:12.36 | eth0x | hmm |
| 06:12.39 | Festyur | streuner: i installed kde-dev |
| 06:12.58 | stoned | internal* |
| 06:13.14 | eth0x | 192.168.1.254 - refused |
| 06:13.16 | eth0x | haha |
| 06:13.18 | stoned | no dude |
| 06:14.22 | stoned | check your router configuration. What is the internal network's ip range. is dhcp turned on? and if so, what is the ip of the debian machine. |
| 06:14.37 | eth0x | i got it.. |
| 06:14.44 | stoned | eth0x, its like this. INTERNET -> router -> pc1 and pc2 and pcX |
| 06:15.08 | eth0x | i've never had 2 boxes connected before.. so had no idea how it worked ;p |
| 06:15.33 | stoned | then maybe you should read instead of bothering us with trivial things, no offense, but you could have looked up how home networking works |
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| 06:16.02 | eth0x | possibly, but it's simpler getting help from other people. ;] |
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| 06:16.23 | stoned | wow, you have a horrible attitude |
| 06:16.25 | stoned | have fun |
| 06:17.08 | eth0x | how was that horrible? i prefer to get help from other users who know about that area - much easyer. |
| 06:18.26 | stoned | streuner, yo |
| 06:18.45 | stoned | streuner, I'm sure you can find the words :) |
| 06:18.51 | Tallu | I'm debating on buying a wireless card.. how's wpa support in linux nowadays? |
| 06:19.36 | xsdg | why does netbase depend on an inetd? I don't want to run an inetd |
| 06:20.22 | orchid | was there a DSA for login and passwd? I don't see one here http://www.debian.org/security/#DSAS but apt wants to upgrade those two packages |
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| 06:20.47 | Tallu | check debian.org mainpage for shadow vuln explanation :) |
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| 06:21.00 | Tallu | orchid: sorry for not hilighting. |
| 06:21.42 | stoned | Tallu, are you really sorry? |
| 06:21.52 | Tallu | stoned: really really sorry |
| 06:22.02 | stoned | really really really really sorry? |
| 06:22.11 | Tallu | stoned: really! |
| 06:22.31 | stoned | oh well then, carry on |
| 06:22.37 | Tallu | yay! |
| 06:22.41 | orchid | Tallu: thanks |
| 06:22.50 | Tallu | orchid: you're welcome :) |
| 06:23.05 | streuner | xsdg: are you sure? |
| 06:23.13 | streuner | !depends netbase |
| 06:23.20 | dpkg | netbase: depends on ifupdown (>= 0.6.4-4.9), openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd, tcpd, iputils-ping | ping, debconf (>= 0.2.0) | debconf-2.0, lsb-base (>= 3.0-6) |
| 06:23.58 | multi_io | why do some of the messages displayed on the screen during system boot appear neither in dmesg nor in /var/log/syslog? |
| 06:24.26 | xsdg | streuner: yeah; I have no idea why |
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| 06:25.15 | foo | Hm, I can't hit any server's port 25 and get a banner. I am doing this on my linux router. Could it be my linux router? Or my ISP? I know it could be my ISP. I am going to call... but first, can I do anything to see if it's the linux router? I don't think something like restarting the network will fix it.. hmm ... any ideas? |
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| 06:25.21 | streuner | xsdg: why not just asking aj? |
| 06:25.31 | pmv | good day |
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| 06:25.40 | pmv | any good resources on how to get DRI on deb? |
| 06:26.07 | Ratlump | !find vorbis/codec.h |
| 06:26.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'vorbis/codec.h' (1): (/usr/include/vorbis/codec.h) in libdevel/libvorbis-dev. |
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| 06:26.51 | xsdg | streuner: I probably will if I remember :o) |
| 06:28.26 | multi_io | where is udevd started? It's neither symlinked anywhere in /etc/rc*.d/, nor is there any trace of it in dmesg or /var/log/syslog. Still, it is running after the system has booted. |
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| 06:29.12 | El-Tigre | Hola |
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| 06:29.19 | multi_io | ...and it didn't run before I upgraded from 2.6.14 to 2.6.17 |
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| 06:32.31 | cat | hey everyon |
| 06:32.33 | cat | e |
| 06:33.40 | streuner | multi_io: it was prolly in the depends |
| 06:34.40 | streuner | if you not using yarid, you have it installed then :-) |
| 06:34.48 | streuner | bad luck :-) |
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| 06:37.05 | streuner | well, udev works for me since months painless |
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| 06:37.23 | cat | damn i totally forgot my laptop when i was in a trip, |
| 06:37.49 | cat | do airports, have connection so you can connect in the internet? |
| 06:39.22 | |ryan| | cat: many do |
| 06:39.27 | cat | nice |
| 06:39.45 | |ryan| | many also expect you to pay for access. |
| 06:40.06 | |ryan| | At many it is possible to fail to live up to those expectations :) |
| 06:41.24 | multi_io | streuner: the only packaged I installed during the kernel updagrade were linux-{headers|images}-2.6.17...deb |
| 06:41.36 | streuner | no |
| 06:42.08 | multi_io | I compiled the thing myself and installed the packages with dpkg -i |
| 06:42.21 | El-Tigre | Where is #Debian in spanish? |
| 06:42.23 | streuner | !info yarid |
| 06:42.27 | cat | El-Tigre: #debian-es |
| 06:42.41 | El-Tigre | [cat] thanks |
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| 06:44.09 | streuner | multi_io: hm, i thought we talking about official kernels... |
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| 06:44.24 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> ok, I typed in mv Slipknot\ -\ Duality.mp3 /home/a-poxxie/music |
| 06:44.24 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> mv Slipknot\ -\ Duality.mp3 /home/a-poxxie/music |
| 06:44.24 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> /home/a-poxxie/music doesn't exist... |
| 06:44.26 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> like |
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| 06:44.34 | streuner | multi_io: do you use initrd? |
| 06:44.37 | multi_io | streuner: I compiled from the debian kernel source packages |
| 06:44.41 | multi_io | no |
| 06:44.41 | seatouch | whats the command to install everything thats needed like gnu compiler and stuffs |
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| 06:44.48 | Bl4d3fire | sorry |
| 06:44.56 | multi_io | did you mean yaird? |
| 06:45.07 | streuner | !info yaird |
| 06:45.10 | orchid | seatouch: install build-essential |
| 06:45.13 | insmod | anyone know what package provides `require' |
| 06:45.15 | dpkg | yaird: (Yet Another mkInitRD), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.0.12-17 (sid), Packaged size: 179 kB, Installed size: 636 kB |
| 06:45.25 | seatouch | orchid thanks |
| 06:45.43 | streuner | multi_io: yes, its the package which doesn't depends on udev... |
| 06:46.17 | Tallu | I wonder. When I write hostname I get my fqdn and when I type hostname --fqd I get just the top-level domain without the hostname :P |
| 06:46.27 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> mv Slipknot\ -\ Duality.mp3 /home/a-poxxie/music |
| 06:46.27 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> /home/a-poxxie/music doesn't exist... |
| 06:46.27 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> like |
| 06:46.27 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> I wanted to move it the the directory music |
| 06:46.27 | Bl4d3fire | <Bl4d3fire> what happened to all the files I just moved? |
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| 06:47.05 | foo | Hm, I am having problems getting out on port 25 for some reason. I called my ISP and I should be able to, and a friend on the same network up the street is able to ... any ideas? I have a linux router I am trying from, no go. This has been working fine for quiet a while now ... any ideas? |
| 06:47.34 | Bl4d3fire | this is what happened, I tryed to /msg dpkg with the thi ng and he got the first line but the chan got the rest... |
| 06:48.04 | Tallu | Why would you msg a bot with it? :P |
| 06:51.08 | multi_io | streuner: got it, it's started in /etc/rcS.d/S03udev. I wasn't looking hard enough earlier :-\ |
| 06:51.14 | Bl4d3fire | meh |
| 06:51.17 | Bl4d3fire | nm |
| 06:51.54 | streuner | multi_io: well, its easier with update-rc.d :-) |
| 06:53.26 | CAiRO | how can i make vino (gnome vnc server) to only bind to localhost? |
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| 06:55.58 | digits | i'm trying to make postfix to work, but i cannot get it to accept connections from other than localhost... how do i ammend that? |
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| 06:58.09 | multi_io | unfortunately, udevd has already deleted half of my /dev files when it first ran :-( |
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| 07:08.04 | foo | How can I delete everything in mailq? |
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| 07:11.32 | multi_io | does anyone here use rcconf? |
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| 07:23.59 | sanmarcos | does postfix listen globally rather than on loopback by default? |
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| 07:28.55 | peterS | sanmarcos: I certainly hope so. listening only on loopback wouldn't be much of a mail server |
| 07:29.19 | sanmarcos | peterS, right |
| 07:29.46 | peterS | I mean at that point, why bother listening on port 25 at all - people should be using 'sendmail -bs' rather than 'telnet localhost 25' |
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| 07:31.02 | sanmarcos | right brother right |
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| 07:36.42 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:36.42 | dpkg | <jeanpoldeux> How can I know if the cpu of my girlfriend is a 386 or a 586? <greycat> jeanpoldeux: it's proprietary. |
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| 07:38.15 | sanmarcos | I dont get it |
| 07:38.27 | peterS | sanmarcos: she has non-free firmware too |
| 07:38.49 | peterS | sanmarcos: the joke is "CPU of my girlfriend" - think of it as "CPU in my girlfriend" |
| 07:39.21 | SpeedyG | is it possible to tell a disk to powerdown in linux? |
| 07:39.33 | sanmarcos | !tell SpeedyG about hdparm |
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| 07:40.58 | SpeedyG | thx :) |
| 07:42.28 | sanmarcos | !qotd0 |
| 07:42.28 | dpkg | <thomas_adam> mwilson is the only person I know that manages to use 'idiot' as a noun. :) * thomas_adam laughs <ricky_clarkson> thomas_adam: idiot *is* a noun. <mwilson> It IS a noun. <initech> thomas_adam: err .. it is a noun <Guerin> thomas_adam: how else does one use it? * thomas_adam laughs -- no no, nevermind. :) <Guerin> we have been trolled, fellow grammar nazis |
| 07:44.10 | insmod | can't get ruby going any other good gui toolkits? |
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| 07:45.36 | lunitik | insmod: umm, ruby isn't a gui toolkit |
| 07:45.43 | sanmarcos | insmod, use python, pygtk rocks |
| 07:45.46 | sanmarcos | insmod, and #ruby |
| 07:45.59 | insmod | lunitik: what is it |
| 07:46.07 | insmod | sanmarcos: thanks |
| 07:46.08 | sanmarcos | it is a proggramming language |
| 07:46.27 | sanmarcos | quite nice, but one more in the bunch |
| 07:46.35 | sanmarcos | !ruby |
| 07:46.37 | dpkg | well, ruby is a pure object oriented script language with a simple and clean syntax. It's supposed to have the best characteristics of Perl and Smalltalk. Learn about it at http://www.ruby-lang.org . a language that seems like a messy (Perlish) Python, or at http://www.rubycentral.com, or http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/, or #ruby-lang |
| 07:46.57 | insmod | sanmarcos: i get `require': no such file to load -- gtk (LoadError) on every thing |
| 07:47.11 | sanmarcos | insmod, apt-cache search ruby gtk --names-only |
| 07:47.27 | peterS | did he start talking about ruby just because of dpkg's QOTD that featured thomas_adam? as I recall, he was always a ruby advocate. |
| 07:47.30 | insmod | sanmarcos: everything is loaded |
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| 07:48.00 | insmod | sanmarcos: no gtk.rb just gtk2.rb -- which won't work |
| 07:48.10 | Cooner750 | Would it be possible to run Debian as just a webserver, using Apache, PHP, and MySQL on an old computer, say, like 233Mhz? |
| 07:48.17 | JohnQ | Is there a way to run 2.6.17.8 on sarge without recompiling it myself? |
| 07:48.17 | Cooner750 | and SSH. No Gui |
| 07:48.41 | SpeedyG | Cooner750: i've been doing that for the past 4 years :) |
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| 07:48.42 | jbrimble | How do i configure ssmtp? |
| 07:48.45 | SpeedyG | so I'd say yes |
| 07:48.48 | lunitik | JohnQ: no |
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| 07:49.05 | JohnQ | whats the latest kernel available in sid? |
| 07:49.07 | Cooner750 | SpeedyG: I have a 233Mhz PII MMX, with like 32MB RAM I think. What is your system? |
| 07:49.20 | Cooner750 | I also have a P133 lying around somewhere |
| 07:49.27 | lunitik | jbrimble: you ought to be able to figure that out, its a very easy app to configure |
| 07:49.30 | SpeedyG | I have a 233Mhz P2 MMX with 196MB of garbage ram ;) |
| 07:49.34 | shay | my router is a 133 P-Classic 586 |
| 07:49.39 | insmod | sanmarcos:? |
| 07:49.43 | shay | 32 RAM |
| 07:49.46 | shay | 1.3 gigs hdd |
| 07:49.52 | sanmarcos | insmod, dont use ruby gtk, sorry, check #ruby-lang |
| 07:49.55 | SpeedyG | it's been upgraded to a router now, since it's work as server has been taken over by my previous desktop (P4 2.2Ghz) |
| 07:49.58 | Cooner750 | I run Smoothwall on a PII 300 with 64MB RAM |
| 07:50.01 | Tallu | Cooner750: I ran an apache web server with php+mysql on a p2 233 just fine :) sure, parsing wasnt always so fast.. but it worked |
| 07:50.11 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, I run a P3 500, with 12gb hard drive and 192 ram. It runs excellent, every service you can imagine, including sql |
| 07:50.15 | JohnQ | ... and is there a way to switch *CLEANLY* from sarge to sid without a complete reinstall? |
| 07:50.18 | jbrimble | i can't figure out how to bring the configuration wizard up again. it came up once i installed it, but never again (ssmtp) |
| 07:50.38 | shay | JohnQ, dist-upgrade is clean enough for you? |
| 07:50.44 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: only thing my 233 was choking on, was samba ;) |
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| 07:50.56 | JohnQ | I suppose. |
| 07:51.05 | lunitik | jbrimble: read /usr/share/doc/ssmtp docs, and the man page... |
| 07:51.07 | shay | !dist-upgrade |
| 07:51.07 | dpkg | ask me about 'woody->sarge' or 'sarge->etch', or a parameter to apt-get which will do intelligent dependency handling (as opposed to "upgrade"). It will install new packages and clobber old ones as needed. Do not blindly use dist-upgrade. man apt-get, and read carefully. see <why not dist upgrade> |
| 07:51.10 | insmod | sanmarcos: thanks |
| 07:51.12 | JohnQ | I just dont want to be in limbo land between versions |
| 07:51.18 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, Samba works fine here |
| 07:51.22 | Cooner750 | I need to find a heatsink for my 233. There's something odd with the 233 I have. I can see the metal square "center" of the chip and where all of the pins are soldered around the edges and it has "233mmx" written on it with a Sharpie marker. Is there supposed to be a cover of some kind on this processor? I'm confused |
| 07:51.29 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: I couldnt get max-speed |
| 07:51.30 | Cooner750 | I dont have a fan or heatsink for it, I cant find any for Socket 7... |
| 07:51.33 | jbrimble | lunitik: There are no docs or man |
| 07:51.35 | lunitik | JohnQ: why upgrade kernel? something you need in the new kernels? |
| 07:51.38 | shay | !tell JohnQ about sarge->sid |
| 07:51.39 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, max-speed as in trasnfer rates? |
| 07:51.44 | lunitik | jbrimble: bullshit |
| 07:51.47 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: yep... no 100Mbit from that box |
| 07:51.56 | SpeedyG | 40 at most |
| 07:51.56 | JohnQ | yeah... apparently thr ivtv drivers are more stable in 2.6.15+ |
| 07:52.03 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, how do you measure it? |
| 07:52.14 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, probably a slow disk, or no dma enabled |
| 07:52.16 | SpeedyG | various bandwidth monitoring tools |
| 07:52.18 | JohnQ | "shay wants you to know: If you have to ask, you shouldn't." |
| 07:52.23 | JohnQ | hah |
| 07:52.24 | lunitik | !tell JohnQ about sarge 2.6.16 |
| 07:52.25 | SpeedyG | same disk in another machine, upto 11MB/s |
| 07:52.28 | Cooner750 | If I did make my webserver the 233, it would most likely just be the motherboard on it's metal tray sitting on top of smoothwall... |
| 07:52.50 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, such as? |
| 07:52.56 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, I can check if it runs full speed here |
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| 07:53.13 | SpeedyG | my new server, P4 2.2Ghz machine with 512MB DDR |
| 07:53.21 | Cooner750 | The mobo I have is strange to, it has SDRAM slots, and the old white shorter memory slots.... I assume the SDRAM slots are PC66 |
| 07:53.24 | JohnQ | thanks, lunitik |
| 07:53.26 | SpeedyG | and a realtek nic instead of an intel :/ |
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| 07:54.21 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, sorry, quit by accident, what were you saying? |
| 07:54.34 | SpeedyG | my new server, P4 2.2Ghz machine with 512MB DDR |
| 07:54.36 | SpeedyG | and a realtek nic instead of an intel :/ |
| 07:54.56 | sanmarcos | you dont get full speed on samba with that? |
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| 07:55.01 | SpeedyG | on that one I do |
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| 07:55.08 | sanmarcos | how do you check? |
| 07:55.12 | SpeedyG | on the 233Mhz with 192MB and an intel nic I didnt |
| 07:55.18 | JohnQ | lunitik, it says to modify my /etc/apt/preferences ... but I dont have one. Make a new one? or is it likely to exist somewhere else? |
| 07:55.23 | Cooner750 | Speaking of samba... and file sharing, would it also be possible to have FTP running on the 233? I |
| 07:55.28 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: bandwidht monitoring on both receiving and sending machine |
| 07:55.31 | sanmarcos | CoolFox31, sure |
| 07:55.33 | Cooner750 | I'd think the big resource eater would be if it had a GUI, which it wont |
| 07:55.44 | SpeedyG | Cooner750: it's possible :) |
| 07:55.49 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, bah too much work. You can use NFS if you want |
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| 07:56.08 | SpeedyG | i've been running samba, ftp, apache, mysql, dhcp, dns and various other services on it :) |
| 07:56.19 | SpeedyG | but only for personal use tho |
| 07:56.33 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: it was too much hassle to set that up on my windows desktop |
| 07:56.38 | sanmarcos | CoolFox31, in fact you can do that while running postfix, dovecot, openssh, proftpd, cupsys, samba, nfs, distcc, firewall, unreal tournament, while compiling the kernel and playing music |
| 07:56.50 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, windows services for unix sucks anyway |
| 07:57.07 | SpeedyG | that was(is) why I'm using samba |
| 07:57.08 | Cooner750 | I'd probably only need to run Apache, MySQL, PHP, and FTP. I'd like to run a Jabber server on it too, but Wildfire is based on Java and I'm sure that would be too much for it to handle, and ejabberd is too complicated for me, I need a good easy setup guide for it |
| 07:57.23 | sanmarcos | CoolFox31, just apt-cache search jabber server |
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| 07:57.37 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, I have a dns cache set up on my server. All my machines in the network use it |
| 07:57.45 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: coon<tab> would be better ;) |
| 07:57.59 | sanmarcos | ah yeah |
| 07:58.37 | sanmarcos | Spec, munit is very nice for monitoring server load |
| 07:59.07 | Knorrie | munin |
| 08:00.17 | sanmarcos | see example: http://munin.ping.uio.no/ |
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| 08:00.44 | SpeedyG | heh, I was looking at that :) |
| 08:00.45 | Cooner750 | how much memory would I need with that 233 to run those services "ok"? It appears that I can get 72 pin SIMM memory very cheap, $20 for a stick of 64 |
| 08:01.07 | sanmarcos | CoolFox31, 128 should be ok, but if you can afford it, add all it can handle |
| 08:01.25 | sanmarcos | anyways if you are going to spend much money, you can actually buy a new server, barebone |
| 08:01.30 | liable | !tab |
| 08:01.31 | dpkg | from memory, tab is part of the varndean crew, slightly slimy at times though, or a very old diet soda. tabtabtab, or what reasonably intelligent irc clients will let you use to recall the nick that most recently posted something in a channel. |
| 08:01.40 | sanmarcos | again!! |
| 08:01.45 | liable | :) |
| 08:02.04 | liable | dont you hate it when you have nicktab fuckage :) |
| 08:02.11 | sanmarcos | I wished my client had intelligent completion, i.e most used strings have higher priority rather than alphanumeric sort |
| 08:02.28 | liable | !best irc client |
| 08:02.29 | dpkg | irssi-text is, like, probably the best IRC client |
| 08:02.32 | minerale | is it possible to eject a cd throughth the command line ? |
| 08:02.46 | sanmarcos | minerale, sudo eject |
| 08:02.47 | liable | minerale: yes, 'eject' |
| 08:02.55 | sanmarcos | liable, irssi has it? |
| 08:03.01 | liable | sanmarcos: yeah |
| 08:03.18 | sanmarcos | well currently I am in a win box for irc |
| 08:03.31 | sanmarcos | liable, I find irssi's windowing system extremely confusing |
| 08:03.31 | liable | sanmarcos: putty with irssi on a server :) |
| 08:03.46 | liable | sanmarcos: its fine once you work it out |
| 08:03.47 | sanmarcos | xchat is nice if you leave out all the horrible wingtk bugs |
| 08:04.03 | liable | xchats nick completion blows |
| 08:04.12 | minerale | I think I need a new cdrom, I have to press eject 20 times for it to open... sudo eject does nothing either |
| 08:04.28 | SpeedyG | irssi rules :D |
| 08:04.51 | SpeedyG | minerale: i've got a cd-rom drive that I have to hit hard on the frontside for it to open :D |
| 08:04.52 | liable | minerale: sure nothing is keeping it in use? fuser/lsof /dev/cdrom |
| 08:05.00 | sanmarcos | the java/eclipse skin rocks |
| 08:05.18 | sanmarcos | minerale, fuser -m /mnt/cdrom or wherever your mount point is |
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| 08:05.20 | SpeedyG | great system, no evil housemate will ever put a cd in it :D |
| 08:05.42 | SpeedyG | sanmarcos: eclipse skin? |
| 08:05.51 | sanmarcos | SpeedyG, http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png |
| 08:06.09 | SpeedyG | oh that :) |
| 08:06.19 | liable | yuck |
| 08:06.22 | SpeedyG | eclipse works nice if it's for java |
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| 08:06.37 | sanmarcos | never tried it. Dont care for Java |
| 08:06.45 | SpeedyG | I have to for school :( |
| 08:07.01 | SpeedyG | all they shout is 'object oriented hooray' |
| 08:07.15 | SpeedyG | while they actually mean 'open source hooray, no more costs hooray' |
| 08:07.27 | SpeedyG | because they started to use BlueJ as a learning guide |
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| 08:08.21 | multi_io | it appears rcconf doesn't display udev even though /etc/init.d/udev exists. |
| 08:08.28 | multi_io | can anyone confirm that? |
| 08:09.37 | sanmarcos | multi_io, use sysv-rc-conf |
| 08:09.53 | sanmarcos | multi_io, before touching anything related to udev, pray to all your gods and do some voodoo |
| 08:10.04 | sanmarcos | multi_io, rcconf seems to be somehow limited to what it reads |
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| 08:10.39 | multi_io | sanmarcos: if I read the manpage right, it should display everything from /etc/init.d |
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| 08:11.03 | Cooner750 | Looking for some old computers on ebay... |
| 08:11.13 | multi_io | ..and I intend to disable udev :) |
| 08:11.30 | sanmarcos | multi_io, that can be either really good or really bad |
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| 08:11.50 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, do you know of any places that sell them offline? |
| 08:12.16 | liable | minerale: just remove it then, otherwise, you prolly wont get dev files made if you just disable it |
| 08:12.20 | liable | multi_io: ^^ |
| 08:12.32 | cunzhang | hi,now installing bootsplash still need compiling the kernel in debian sid? |
| 08:12.32 | liable | bah |
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| 08:12.40 | Cooner750 | sanmarcos: Here there used to be a computer store that specialized in selling "old" machines |
| 08:12.42 | multi_io | sanmarcos: it has removed /dev/mixer during the last system boot, which annoyed me enough for now (mknod'ing /dev/mixer gives a perfectly working /dev/mixer) |
| 08:12.44 | liable | cunzhang: /msg dpkg splashy |
| 08:12.56 | sanmarcos | multi_io, adjust the rules. |
| 08:12.59 | OrangeKid | fable is funny. never knew what you guys were talking about all these damn years |
| 08:13.04 | Cooner750 | not sure where else I could find one around here |
| 08:13.08 | liable | hah |
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| 08:13.20 | sanmarcos | hmm I wish I could find a store like that |
| 08:13.25 | liable | OrangeKid: well written eh? :) |
| 08:13.26 | multi_io | why aren't there some sensible default rules? |
| 08:13.29 | cunzhang | thank you,liable |
| 08:13.30 | sanmarcos | I just pick old machines people throw away on their sidewalks |
| 08:13.37 | Cooner750 | I've done that too... |
| 08:13.40 | OrangeKid | however the fable has forced FN to upgrade this channel to #dweebian :D ;) |
| 08:13.45 | Cooner750 | That's where the 233 came from |
| 08:14.51 | Cooner750 | I'm going to look for something a little more recent that has more memory already in it. I'm looking at the older Optiplex machines, around 400-600Mhz, or faster if i can get it cheap lol |
| 08:14.57 | sanmarcos | I carry a little cart at night and I pick up pcs |
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| 08:15.09 | OrangeKid | may i take a survey? |
| 08:15.19 | liable | no |
| 08:15.25 | Cooner750 | I ride my bike around on 'big garbage' night and look for things.. I've found old tape drives and stuff like that |
| 08:15.34 | OrangeKid | just was wondering if any of you preffered athlon64 |
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| 08:15.46 | OrangeKid | preferred |
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| 08:16.12 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, big garbage night? |
| 08:16.19 | liable | hard refuse |
| 08:16.35 | Cooner750 | Here they have a night that's supposed to be for things like old couches, beds, refrigerators... |
| 08:16.45 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, I want to park in front of one of those computer recycling places and pose as a worker of the facility to take the computers |
| 08:16.52 | Cooner750 | lol good idea |
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| 08:17.10 | OrangeKid | big garbage night is when they have massive dump trucks collect things like lawnchairs couches bicycles tvs etc |
| 08:17.25 | sanmarcos | what date is it? |
| 08:17.34 | OrangeKid | only prollem is that tvs and other crt's arent allowed to be put out for big garbage night |
| 08:17.35 | liable | depends.. |
| 08:17.36 | Cooner750 | Here it's one night every week, Thursday... |
| 08:17.39 | OrangeKid | due to the lead they contain etc |
| 08:18.05 | OrangeKid | so it is doubly ok to take crt's on big garbage night |
| 08:18.24 | JohnQ | When compiling a custom kernel module, it is saying "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7/build: No such file or directory. Stop." .. any ideas what that file is and which package it would be in? |
| 08:18.26 | Cooner750 | Same goes for old refrigerators and A/C units, they contan most likely Freon, being most of them are old, and they wont collect them here because of that |
| 08:18.32 | OrangeKid | on e big garbage night i got a free satellite dish |
| 08:18.40 | sanmarcos | nice OrangeKid |
| 08:18.50 | Cooner750 | the P233 was free lol |
| 08:18.50 | liable | JohnQ: you need kernel headers for your running kernel |
| 08:18.59 | sanmarcos | in Argentina, you go to the ghettos and they all have DirecTV... I dont know how they piggyback on the service |
| 08:19.03 | JohnQ | alrighty. Thanks |
| 08:19.06 | sanmarcos | probably crooked politicians doing favors |
| 08:19.08 | Cooner750 | There's this one store here, one guy owns it and works there himself, it's a little corner store, last I checked the oldest machine he had was a PIII 900 for $99 (a little pricey for me) |
| 08:19.19 | liable | JohnQ: apt-cache search linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 08:19.20 | OrangeKid | i didnt have the time to refurbish it tho so i put it back on the curb the BGN the following month |
| 08:19.22 | sanmarcos | they have like houses made out of wood and metal, but with a Satellite Dish |
| 08:19.57 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, what search string would you use on ebay to search for old boxes?.. cannot find much really |
| 08:20.11 | OrangeKid | my house is made out of wood, aluminum, plywood, and styrofoam |
| 08:20.14 | Cooner750 | sanmarcos: Search by processor clock speed, that's what I do.. |
| 08:20.36 | OrangeKid | plus the concrete foundation and spanish tile roof |
| 08:20.52 | OrangeKid | stucco coats the outer walls |
| 08:20.55 | blondie | why don't they build houses properly in america |
| 08:20.56 | blondie | ? |
| 08:21.00 | liable | OrangeKid: you live in an atco hut? |
| 08:21.02 | blondie | like, with bricks |
| 08:21.15 | Cooner750 | This house is over 100 years old so it's all brick lol |
| 08:21.26 | Cooner750 | The older (beige-box, not the newer blue/grey/black ones) Dell OptiPlex's can be had for pretty cheap off eBay |
| 08:21.27 | OrangeKid | brick houses are good for cold regions |
| 08:21.28 | sanmarcos | blondie, yes!!, the walls are made of carton, wtf |
| 08:21.30 | liable | i lived in a tent for 8 months.. |
| 08:21.30 | OrangeKid | i live in the desert |
| 08:21.40 | sanmarcos | blondie, there is no concrete, nothing... the foundation is so weak |
| 08:21.51 | blondie | o.o |
| 08:22.12 | Cooner750 | Like this machine here... Optiplex GX100 http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Optiplex-GX100-Celeron-600-mhz-w-10gb-HD_W0QQitemZ110020202578QQihZ001QQcategoryZ51109QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 08:22.18 | liable | OrangeKid: which desert? |
| 08:22.33 | Cooner750 | Buy it Now for $20 |
| 08:22.34 | OrangeKid | celeron? its spelled celuron |
| 08:22.48 | liable | eh? |
| 08:22.49 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, nice |
| 08:23.03 | Cooner750 | I searched for "Optiplex" there |
| 08:23.16 | Cooner750 | Get a lot of the non-beige-box ones in the results though |
| 08:23.20 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, http://www.usedcomputer.com/c |
| 08:23.27 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, ehh remove that ending c |
| 08:23.59 | OrangeKid | Sempron is like Celluron in that they were both an attempt at producing an equal yet cheaper cpu. both were failures. |
| 08:24.10 | liable | hrm, i dont remember a dsa for login/passwd.. |
| 08:24.48 | OrangeKid | i am an athlon64 man |
| 08:24.53 | Cooner750 | hmm most computers on usedcomputer.com actually arent that old.. |
| 08:25.18 | OrangeKid | i will sell you my ibm 5100, i hear it comes handy in 2038 |
| 08:25.50 | Cooner750 | I wonder, how hard is it to setup MySQL without a GUI? I've always used MySQL Administrator or similar |
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| 08:26.01 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, too easy |
| 08:26.07 | liable | Cooner750: theres fairly goos docs for it |
| 08:26.17 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, ask dpkg also |
| 08:26.19 | liable | s/goos/good/ |
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| 08:26.35 | Cooner750 | there's one thing about getting used old computers on eBay. You get nailed for shipping |
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| 08:26.59 | liable | fucking oath, shipping can kill a deal lots of times |
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| 08:27.10 | Pons | guys, what mysql version comes with debian sarge? |
| 08:27.19 | wols | pdo |
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| 08:28.16 | liable | Pons: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:28.18 | sanmarcos | Pons, apt-cache policy |
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| 08:30.45 | brothers | ??gain ability |
| 08:30.55 | Cooner750 | I might temporarily use my PIII 1Ghz is a webserver until I can get an older machine |
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| 08:31.03 | OrangeKid | greetings fellow dweebians |
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| 08:31.14 | Cooner750 | My main 'everyday' machine is a 1.5Ghz P4 |
| 08:31.18 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, check that.. too cheap http://www.usedcomputer.com/classifieds/CPViewInCat.asp?ID=96 |
| 08:32.22 | Cooner750 | Yea. I might stop in tomorrow at that guy's computer store and see if he has anything older yet |
| 08:32.33 | Cooner750 | Last I was in there he was working on a PIII 500 |
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| 08:32.47 | OrangeKid | what town do you look for computers? |
| 08:33.29 | Cooner750 | Here, locally. I wont go very far to get a computer |
| 08:33.36 | sanmarcos | heh |
| 08:33.40 | Cooner750 | That is, unless it's some crazy deal... |
| 08:33.50 | jargon | :/ |
| 08:34.10 | jargon | i think i have had this nick regged since OPN opened its doors |
| 08:34.43 | Cooner750 | I wonder if I could find enough memory for that 233 to make it useable... |
| 08:34.57 | Cooner750 | I know I have random sticks of 72 pin memory lying around everywhere |
| 08:35.09 | sanmarcos | Cooner750, do you know anywhere you can get computers for free ? |
| 08:35.17 | Cooner750 | No, I wish I did... lol |
| 08:35.25 | jargon | ive been on here ever since OPN was founded, and never have i come in #debian save a few times. does that 'break' the fable? |
| 08:36.01 | twysted | im trying to install debian 3.1 r2 i386 onto a old hp computer and when trying to mount the cd-rom while in the installer i get a "cdrom-mount failed again (error=1): device=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0" any ideas how to remedy this problem? |
| 08:36.31 | sanmarcos | jargon, Registered: 4 years 4 weeks (4h 27m 30s) ago, heh |
| 08:36.39 | streuner | jargon: what's your problem? |
| 08:36.45 | jargon | yes i had to unreg due to a prollem with the reg |
| 08:36.49 | jargon | then rereg |
| 08:37.18 | jargon | that happened that long ago |
| 08:37.34 | SpeedyG | about 4 years and 4 weeks ago i'd guess ;) |
| 08:37.44 | jargon | was originally regged on OPN 2 years before that |
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| 08:37.54 | jargon | or 3 years rather |
| 08:37.57 | jargon | i think |
| 08:38.04 | jargon | hard to remember 7 years ago |
| 08:38.12 | Cooner750 | I had to recently replace the cpu fan in my Smoothwall. Finally gave up.. |
| 08:38.26 | Cooner750 | Being a PII 300 that fan was old |
| 08:38.33 | jargon | smoothwall? |
| 08:38.51 | Cooner750 | My Linux-based computer firewall, er, hard to explain, http://smoothwall.oef |
| 08:38.52 | Cooner750 | Er |
| 08:38.56 | jargon | couldnt find a replacement? |
| 08:38.57 | Cooner750 | http://smoothwall.org |
| 08:39.10 | jargon | you know you can buy fan kits where you assemble your own fans |
| 08:39.24 | jargon | they used to have them at radioshack eons ago |
| 08:39.33 | jargon | rs has really gone to the crappy |
| 08:39.36 | jargon | craper* |
| 08:39.58 | Cooner750 | yea I found a replacement fan, the setup in that old HP is strange, it's a PII cartridge processor, it has a black plastic 'duct' over the heatsink that runs to the front of the case where there is a fan, a standard 92mm I think |
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| 08:40.06 | jargon | today radioshack sells mostly worthless 70$ items |
| 08:40.21 | Cooner750 | I noticed |
| 08:40.22 | Cooner750 | It's an HP Kayak XA, "desktop" model |
| 08:40.31 | SpeedyG | hmz, the old HP/Compaq computers were evil |
| 08:40.54 | SpeedyG | they had the apple strategy.. 'only use our hardware, others wont fit' |
| 08:41.31 | jargon | brb i in alone in a big house for the week. i need to do some stuff like turn off lights and lock doors and check for open doors in the house |
| 08:41.37 | aubergine | Can someone help me with sh scripting? |
| 08:41.52 | Cooner750 | This one has always worked fine for me, replacing the hard drive was a lot easier than I thought, slide out the metal tray from under the PSU on the back of the case, of course the power connector was barely long enough. The original Quantum Fireball 6GB drive had picked up that annoying high pitched "whining" noise that older hard drives do... |
| 08:42.21 | twysted | hmm |
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| 08:43.21 | Cooner750 | i dont think there's anything more annoying than that old hard drive 'whine' |
| 08:43.33 | aubergine | http://nopaste.info/f557fa8940.html, this if term should check if PIDFILE already exists but it doesnt work, what wrong? |
| 08:43.44 | liable | twysted: is it a known good drive? |
| 08:44.22 | twysted | yes i have even swapped the drive and the cable out just incase with no change |
| 08:44.45 | liable | twysted: oh, so same error with two different drives? |
| 08:44.59 | twysted | yes |
| 08:45.04 | sanmarcos | aubergine, first #bash, then help if, and help test |
| 08:45.12 | Cooner750 | I think I'm going to go to bed, 4:44 AM. I'll look into the old computer ordeal more tomorrow, maybe will try to find memory for 233 and use it... |
| 08:45.25 | liable | twysted: did you try the other ide slot? |
| 08:45.42 | Cooner750 | my 1.5Ghz P4 is slow enough already with a 5400 RPM hard drive, the extra server software dosent help. |
| 08:45.53 | twysted | yes |
| 08:46.08 | twysted | cd rom is on ide 1 as master and hdd is on ide 0 as master |
| 08:46.10 | aubergine | sanmarcos: Yes but the if term works, but not the checking if the PIDFILE exists |
| 08:46.25 | Cooner750 | Are there any BIOS settings in old computers that could affect Debian's ability to detect and mount drives? |
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| 08:46.39 | liable | twysted: have heard of cdrom not found errors, but cant say i have heard of that one, which sounds more hardware related. |
| 08:46.43 | sanmarcos | CoolFox31, slow? that is fast!. |
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| 08:46.54 | phpDude | how can I force apt to download mysql 4.1 |
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| 08:47.09 | phpDude | everytime I try to apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 08:47.09 | liable | twysted: have you got any other install/rescue cd's? |
| 08:47.14 | twysted | liable hmm weird i only seem to have this problem with debian, ubuntu no problem, as well as slack |
| 08:47.18 | streuner | phpDude: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 08:47.21 | Cooner750 | i'm going to bed now lol. 'night all |
| 08:47.22 | liable | twysted: ok |
| 08:47.24 | phpDude | it give me this |
| 08:47.24 | twysted | liable, i can try downloading a non-netinst cd |
| 08:47.26 | phpDude | Note, selecting mysql-server-5.0 instead of mysql-server-4.1 |
| 08:47.34 | SpeedyG | aubergine: ues -e instead of -x |
| 08:47.45 | liable | twysted: same installer kernel, shouldnt make a difference. |
| 08:47.54 | liable | twysted: dont have a floppy drive? |
| 08:48.02 | twysted | no floppy drive |
| 08:48.12 | phpDude | kitkat:/# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 08:48.12 | phpDude | ii libc6 2.3.6-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 08:48.16 | aubergine | SpeedyG: thank you very much |
| 08:48.16 | liable | twysted: is there a linux distro on it atm? |
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| 08:48.36 | phpDude | streuner: how is this related to what I need? |
| 08:48.37 | twysted | liable no drive was pulled from a windows workstation |
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| 08:49.08 | liable | twysted: tried both kernels? |
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| 08:49.14 | twysted | liable> yes |
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| 08:50.02 | sk4nK | trying to install a usb webcam on this box, I think it it picking up the audio, but no the video (from what i can gather from dmesg). |
| 08:50.03 | liable | twysted: ok, try #debian-boot on oftc, its not really a user channel, but they may be able to help. |
| 08:50.29 | streuner | phpDude: well, you're running prolly testing and the version of mysql is in testing 5.0 |
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| 08:50.44 | twysted | liable> im going to try the big iso instead of the netinst but ill report it |
| 08:50.47 | sk4nK | i think it's an OmniVision chip, but i can't find the brand listed anywhere, if someone could give me a hand that would be awesome. |
| 08:50.52 | streuner | !info mysql-common testing |
| 08:50.59 | dpkg | mysql-common: (mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql/my.cnf)), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.22-3 (etch), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 88 kB |
| 08:51.04 | liable | twysted: ok, but i think it will be a waste of bandwidth. |
| 08:51.12 | phpDude | streuner, but I want a specific version, isn't there a way to tell APT what exactly I need? |
| 08:51.29 | streuner | phpDude: try via 'dpkg -i package' to install version 4.1 |
| 08:51.42 | liable | twysted: let me know how you go, if you find a fix |
| 08:52.24 | streuner | phpDude: you can get those packages from s.d.o or sdn |
| 08:53.20 | streuner | !sdn |
| 08:53.20 | dpkg | well, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 08:53.23 | row | is dpkg a supybot? |
| 08:53.32 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 08:53.32 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 08:53.41 | row | ah |
| 08:53.46 | streuner | !info blootbot |
| 08:53.49 | dpkg | blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-5 (sid), Packaged size: 242 kB, Installed size: 876 kB |
| 08:54.38 | enouf | twysted: i scrolled, but can't fin your initial problem description |
| 08:55.00 | streuner | phpDude: why do you need 4.1? |
| 08:55.26 | anapivirtua | hi |
| 08:55.33 | enouf | twysted: nevermind, I found it |
| 08:55.38 | twysted | =) |
| 08:57.32 | enouf | twysted -- have you entered the BIOS and altered some settings? like CDROM as first Boot device ? |
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| 08:58.35 | enouf | The drive cam from elseqwhere ? a win PC - what do you have the Jumpers set at ? How old is the cd drive ? (I know the HP is old) |
| 08:58.55 | jatt | with kde, when I insert a CD-ROM it gets automatically mounted (Dapper). I don't have the same behaviour with gnome -- I need to mount the CD manually. Which program in gnome can do that for me? |
| 08:59.05 | sanmarcos | !tell jatt about ubuntu |
| 08:59.23 | jatt | argg wrong channel |
| 08:59.25 | twysted | enouf> that wouldnt effect it if i did im able to get into the debian installer it just wont get past "detect and mount cd-rom" after the language and keyboard options |
| 09:00.15 | enouf | twysted: it depends -- there's only one cdrom in the box ? |
| 09:00.27 | twysted | only one =) |
| 09:00.46 | enouf | twysted - ok -- then run the md5sum on the actual burn you made |
| 09:01.31 | twysted | how can i do that in xp? |
| 09:02.20 | enouf | twysted - I haven't installed Deb since january -- or maybe march -- oh md5sum ?? Boot to CD and choose Ensure intergity or somesuch |
| 09:02.37 | twysted | hmm |
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| 09:04.55 | enouf | Yeah -- there's a self tester built in IIRC -- and also while your there - ( I guess even though XPoop works on that box?) still -- run memetest86+, also on the cd - use the f2-10 keys (I'm talking the CDROM 1 of 14 Debian3.1r1 ISO) - that's what I used :-) ...btw - how much RAM installed? |
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| 09:07.11 | sk4nK | about all the information i know how to glean from my webcam is at http://pastebin.ca/129004 , can anyone tell me why i can't get a video stream through /dev/video0 from it? |
| 09:07.23 | enouf | twysted -Xpoop aslo has an md5sum checker (or atleast ther are free ones available).. IOW, if you d/l the ISO using xpoop, match the Repositorie's md5sum to the ISO you d/l (you normally would do this before you actually burn the cd image from the ISO) |
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| 09:11.55 | enouf | twysted - wait! ..only 1 cdrom ?? then you should ONLY have /dev/cdrom -- not ' device=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0' -- I thought it looked funny -but maybe the Etch netintaller uses 'udev' (?) and aggregates/segregates them this way ..but ONLY if there's more than 1 I'd think (cdrom0, cdrom1, cdrom2, etc)) |
| 09:13.39 | sanmarcos | excellent article http://techanchor.blogspot.com/2006/08/ubuntu-vs-debian-what-canonical-doesnt.html on Ubuntu vs Debian (differences), a factoid should be made |
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| 09:15.07 | jargon | i am going to move all my stuff to a different room |
| 09:15.12 | jargon | this room is haunted |
| 09:15.20 | enouf | Anyone care to confirm that |
| 09:15.30 | jargon | im in one of those alone in a big huge house for a week things |
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| 09:16.05 | mha13 | how can i run flv videos? |
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| 09:16.39 | JohnQ | anyone know how to identify what bios I have from linux? .. or motherboard model numbers, etc.? |
| 09:17.29 | liable | JohnQ: for hardware, lspci/lsusb, for bios, you need to get from the bios |
| 09:17.35 | Blastur | hi! my mail system seems to be broken, i might have picked the wrong option during apt configuration.. how can I bring that configuration up again, and what option should I choose if I only want to be able to send emails via "sendmail" or "mail" via my ISP SMTP .. i'm not really interested in receving emails at all |
| 09:17.51 | sanmarcos | Blastur, dpkg-reconfigure |
| 09:18.02 | Blastur | and what package name? |
| 09:18.07 | sanmarcos | Blastur, depends |
| 09:18.14 | sanmarcos | sensible-mta I would guess |
| 09:18.46 | Blastur | not installed :( how can I determine which MTA i have? |
| 09:19.28 | sanmarcos | mail-transport-agent |
| 09:19.38 | Blastur | i do have "exim4" installed, is that it? cause if I do dpkg-reconfigure exim4, it returns nothing .. it just works for a while |
| 09:19.52 | sanmarcos | try dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 09:20.03 | Nurbs | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (or was ist exim-config?) |
| 09:20.05 | sanmarcos | exim4 is the default MTA in debian |
| 09:20.34 | sanmarcos | just set up exim so it acts as a relay host for your ISP's smtp |
| 09:20.49 | sanmarcos | however I dont know how it would work since most ISP's use AUTH nowadays |
| 09:20.56 | sanmarcos | plain exim4 should work out of the box |
| 09:21.14 | sanmarcos | test it with echo "whatever body" | mail -s "subject" user@yahoo.com |
| 09:21.18 | Blastur | my isp just checks if the source ip is within their network and allows usage |
| 09:21.29 | sanmarcos | oh then you are fine, just set up a relay host |
| 09:21.53 | ZeNN | is it possible to intercept port 80 (www) traffic so that it will show a top banner in the browser.. (every browser) |
| 09:22.02 | Blastur | so what do I pick "mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail" or "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail" ? (dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config worked) |
| 09:22.18 | sanmarcos | ZeNN, you mean in your web server, or packet shaping packets that go through your machine (asumming this is a gateway) |
| 09:22.35 | ZeNN | sanmarcos: last option |
| 09:22.37 | sanmarcos | Blastur, dont know, check #exim and ask them about relay hosts. I personally like postfix |
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| 09:23.24 | sanmarcos | ZeNN, you should consider setting up a proxy, but if not, it can be done, the kernel/iptables I believe supports packet shaping. #iptables might be of more help maybe, dont know |
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| 09:24.35 | ZeNN | sanmarcos: have tried that approach ... with squid and icap.. not a satisfying end result |
| 09:24.52 | sanmarcos | ZeNN, what are you using this for? |
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| 09:25.35 | ZeNN | sanmarcos: have tried squid, and a python icap plugin... not every page is modified correctly.. that was the main problem |
| 09:26.11 | sanmarcos | you cant expect to modify all webpages to show a banner correctly |
| 09:26.35 | sanmarcos | applied web standards are a joke by most sites |
| 09:27.17 | jargon | what is the banner supposed to depict> |
| 09:27.18 | ZeNN | had iptables reroute port 3128 to the squid .. it worked... but i can be done better... see this website: http://perftech.com/applications.html |
| 09:27.19 | jargon | ? |
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| 09:27.45 | ZeNN | jargon: information about the neighbourhood.. |
| 09:27.47 | Si_tech | I just got a motorola v620 mobile phone with a usb dongle. lsusb gives "Bus 001 Device 064: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone" Any ideas how to mount it? |
| 09:28.18 | mha13 | Si_tech: you could try moto4lin .. |
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| 09:29.21 | Si_tech | mha13, thanks I will give it a try. But any idea on what to put in the fstab file? |
| 09:29.34 | binary_dreamer | hi |
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| 09:30.12 | mha13 | Si_tech: doono mate .. but adaik it is something with cdc .. |
| 09:30.45 | binary_dreamer | i got a problem with an entry in the /etc/apt/sources.list. it says: "W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable Release: the following signatures were impossible to confirmed." any idea son how to fix it? |
| 09:30.58 | Si_tech | mha13, ta |
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| 09:31.19 | ion | after I set up Debian on my pc I can't boot |
| 09:31.24 | jargon | ZeNN you mean you are using an interpol nn to trace their physical location down to 50feet? |
| 09:32.09 | jargon | i learned my lesson messing with big boy tous |
| 09:32.13 | jargon | toys* |
| 09:32.28 | jargon | they raided my house |
| 09:32.38 | enouf | JohnQ: if you 'sudo hwinfo | less' (apt-get install hwinfo) to install -- it'll be listed under "SMBIOS Structure Table 0xefc80 - 0xf02b2" |
| 09:33.20 | jargon | its called technological supression |
| 09:33.23 | ZeNN | jargon: i'm not interested in personal information, just figurung out a way to inform users about the historical surrounding.. |
| 09:33.39 | ZeNN | jargon: it's a free wifi network btw |
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| 09:34.22 | jargon | you confuse me |
| 09:34.34 | ZeNN | really |
| 09:34.58 | jargon | you mean you are filtering streams? |
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| 09:35.21 | jargon | so when people use your wifi you bust the door down on net neutrality? |
| 09:35.35 | ZeNN | yes, but actually i'm looking for a way to communicate with the users on my access points.. |
| 09:35.35 | phpDude | if i use dpgk -i, can I install from a tree? |
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| 09:35.48 | jargon | hrm |
| 09:36.03 | ZeNN | and this looked like the best way... |
| 09:36.07 | enouf | JohnQ: this is ebem better 'sudo hwinfo | grep str1' the 1st one will be you BIOS string/version |
| 09:36.09 | liable | phpDude: what do you mean by tree? |
| 09:36.14 | enouf | even* |
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| 09:36.32 | jargon | well i got to go outside and scream, brb i am in a big ol haunted house by myself for a week |
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| 09:37.27 | binary_dreamer | somebody that could help me with the gpg signatures? something wrong with my sources.list. |
| 09:37.29 | ZeNN | hmmm... |
| 09:37.38 | liable | binary_dreamer: um, why do you have stable in sources list, when you have apt from etch or sid? |
| 09:37.58 | ZeNN | binary_dreamer: apt-setup |
| 09:38.03 | liable | binary_dreamer: sarges apt doesnt check signatures |
| 09:38.06 | cydork | binary_dreamer, check the faq on debian-multimedia.org |
| 09:38.51 | binary_dreamer | liable, now u lost me. i am still running stable. i did not upgrade to etch or sid. what is going on over here? |
| 09:38.59 | phpDude | liable, I mean from an online deb packages repository |
| 09:39.15 | liable | binary_dreamer: dpkg -l apt |
| 09:39.17 | cydork | binary_dreamer, check the faq on debian-multimedia.org !!!! |
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| 09:39.39 | liable | cydork: he has other problems that need to be sorted first |
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| 09:40.21 | JohnQ | is there anything in /proc which can tell me the cpu temp? |
| 09:40.39 | binary_dreamer | cydork, i did check it over there. all i am saying is that i did not upgrade to etch or sid. the problem disappears if i remove the line with the debian-multimedia.org from sources.list |
| 09:40.42 | cydork | liable, ok i just joined and read about GPG. |
| 09:40.45 | liable | phpDude: if you want to install downloaded packages manually, thats fine, as long as there depends are satisfied |
| 09:41.22 | enouf | JohnQ: 'sudo lshw | less' wil alsio show you the BIOS info (version and date) |
| 09:41.23 | phpDude | the thing is that I want to install mysql 4.1 |
| 09:41.32 | binary_dreamer | liable, LanParty:~# dpkg -l apt |
| 09:41.32 | binary_dreamer | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 09:41.32 | binary_dreamer | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 09:41.32 | binary_dreamer | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 09:41.32 | binary_dreamer | ||/ Όνομα Έκδοση ΠεÏιγÏαφή |
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| 09:41.37 | phpDude | liable, and when I try to install mysql 4.1 it keeps switching to mysql 5! |
| 09:41.47 | enouf | JohnQ: I think you want lmsensors for that |
| 09:42.04 | liable | phpDude: oh, you want an older version than whats available? |
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| 09:43.03 | liable | JohnQ: depends on your processor. check /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ |
| 09:43.30 | liable | binary_dreamer: just give me the version, dont paste in here |
| 09:43.34 | jargon | great the tv remote is 6 feet away and i am snuggled in bed already |
| 09:43.57 | binary_dreamer | liable, 0.6.44.2bpo1 |
| 09:44.31 | liable | binary_dreamer: well, you have issues then, cause thats not sarges apt. dpkg -l libc6 |
| 09:44.54 | binary_dreamer | liable, propably it is from the backports |
| 09:44.59 | jargon | who is going to go see THE WICKER MAN? |
| 09:45.02 | liable | binary_dreamer: oh, you have backports... |
| 09:45.23 | liable | binary_dreamer: ok then, get the key, as it says in the faq |
| 09:45.24 | JohnQ | liable: thanks seems to be 40 degrees.. not too bad. grr. Why is my machine rebooting? |
| 09:45.39 | jargon | what machine do you have liable |
| 09:45.45 | jargon | i mena JohnDoh |
| 09:45.49 | jargon | erm JohnQ |
| 09:45.50 | binary_dreamer | liable, key? what key? sorry now i am lost again |
| 09:45.50 | liable | JohnQ: run memtest first i guess (overnight) |
| 09:46.09 | liable | binary_dreamer: on the home page for debian mutimedia |
| 09:46.15 | JohnQ | Did that... it only seems to reboot when I engage the tv tuner card. |
| 09:46.19 | liable | binary_dreamer: they have instructions |
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| 09:46.33 | jargon | JohnQ where did you get the computer? |
| 09:46.34 | binary_dreamer | liable, ok one sec please. |
| 09:46.41 | JohnQ | Its a Athlon 2600+ |
| 09:46.44 | tux | hello, guys =( Please help me out with my screen resolution? |
| 09:46.51 | JohnQ | Built it from parts... |
| 09:46.55 | tux | I have installed Debian for the first time |
| 09:46.56 | jargon | JohnQ is it an x64? |
| 09:47.03 | JohnQ | nope |
| 09:47.07 | sanmarcos | tux, why have you installed debian? |
| 09:47.09 | tux | I have 1680x1050 resolution |
| 09:47.11 | liable | JohnQ: fucked tuner? check kernel logs, prolly something bad with it i guess, or change slots if its pci |
| 09:47.22 | sanmarcos | fucked tuner haha |
| 09:47.25 | PumpkinPie | how do I get my exim version ? |
| 09:47.28 | tux | and by default I get 800x600 |
| 09:47.34 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, apt-cache policy exim4 |
| 09:47.34 | JohnQ | It is PCI.. nothing in dmesg showing up at all. |
| 09:47.40 | JohnQ | (nothing bad I mean) |
| 09:47.40 | jargon | 'tuner' hehe |
| 09:48.02 | liable | JohnQ: if it kills it immediately, sounds like some horrible hardware fuckage going on |
| 09:48.12 | tux | how can I fix that, some one please help! |
| 09:48.21 | JohnQ | brand new tuner... literally got it this morning. not immediate.. between 4 and 40 seconds after it starts. |
| 09:48.40 | tux | It is strange, in Ubuntu It detect's it ok. |
| 09:48.47 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: I have both exim and exim4 installed tho going by the packages |
| 09:48.49 | binary_dreamer | liable, thanks a lot. you have been REALLY helpful. |
| 09:48.53 | JohnQ | once it made it 2 minutes.. I was so happy. |
| 09:49.00 | liable | binary_dreamer: yw |
| 09:49.03 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: so which one is actually running? |
| 09:49.11 | cydork | !tell tux about drxx |
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| 09:50.01 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, dont knwo, try show, |
| 09:50.03 | liable | JohnQ: and what do you mean by 'starts' ? |
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| 09:50.19 | dak | uhm whyd i get banned? |
| 09:50.21 | phpDude | liable, yes I want an older version, how can I do that |
| 09:50.56 | liable | phpDude: install it, put it on hold |
| 09:50.58 | JohnQ | "cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg" .... 40 seconds later I'm watching my bios post. :-) (and the file contains about 40 seconds of video after it reboots) |
| 09:51.02 | liable | phpDude: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 09:51.07 | dak | hrm |
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| 09:51.15 | jargon | dak because they are unfair to the chibis |
| 09:51.22 | dak | cuz i pinged the chan? |
| 09:51.25 | dak | was lagged |
| 09:51.27 | dak | god for bid |
| 09:51.29 | sanmarcos | chivito |
| 09:51.32 | phpDude | liable, how can I do that |
| 09:51.38 | tux | ok, I did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:51.45 | tux | now what driver should I select? |
| 09:51.50 | enouf | cydork: ping |
| 09:51.58 | cydork | enouf, pong |
| 09:52.02 | liable | dak: because you versioned the entire channel. talk to dondelelcaro, avoiding bans is not smart btw |
| 09:52.12 | cydork | tux, which card are you using?? |
| 09:52.14 | enouf | cydork: I see you said - I just joined - what about GPG? |
| 09:52.16 | liable | phpDude: i told you, /msg dpkg hold |
| 09:52.31 | dak | liable: i was lagged to hell and did /ping and forgot to do "/ping dak" |
| 09:52.34 | dak | god for bid |
| 09:52.39 | phpDude | -bash: msg: command not found |
| 09:52.40 | tux | nvidia |
| 09:52.47 | liable | dak: thats cool, just /msg don and tell him |
| 09:52.51 | dak | i did |
| 09:52.53 | tux | it works fine in ubuntu :) |
| 09:52.54 | cydork | enouf, ohh that was about binary_dreamer's problem he had probs with keys |
| 09:53.01 | dak | he's idle 45 mins |
| 09:53.06 | jargon | :< |
| 09:53.09 | cydork | tux, you are using sarge? |
| 09:53.10 | dak | and this just happend few mins ago |
| 09:53.11 | tux | from what I understand ubuntu is from debian |
| 09:53.14 | tux | yes |
| 09:53.14 | liable | dak: its late over there |
| 09:53.21 | dak | yes its 5:30 in ny |
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| 09:53.32 | cydork | !tell tux abotu nvidia one-liner |
| 09:53.34 | sanmarcos | tux, ubuntu != debian |
| 09:53.42 | cydork | !tell tux about nvidia one-liner |
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| 09:53.52 | enouf | cydork: ...oh hehehehe - but while we'e on it: I d/l abd installed the 2006 key but ksirc or something isn't rught - it won't connect if I lst the Key under Keys |
| 09:53.52 | cydork | !based on debian |
| 09:53.53 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 09:53.58 | enouf | and* |
| 09:54.15 | liable | dak: you did it 45 mins ago, then you parted straight after, its not friendly irc, so he +b you. anyway, you need to talk to him. |
| 09:54.16 | sanmarcos | kanotix, haha what a fscked up name |
| 09:54.34 | dak | yeah liable im on efnet |
| 09:54.37 | dak | i know irc isnt nice |
| 09:54.46 | enouf | dak: which NY is that ? |
| 09:54.47 | mandingo | anyone have any idea why I have to keep running ssh-add to add my keys even though ssh-agent is running when I start X? |
| 09:54.54 | dak | new york? |
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| 09:55.05 | enouf | 5:52 |
| 09:55.08 | dak | yes |
| 09:55.12 | enouf | ahh -- ok |
| 09:55.19 | dak | thats where i am |
| 09:55.22 | dak | no clue where he is |
| 09:55.51 | enouf | you said 5:30 - thought your hwclock or system time was off |
| 09:55.59 | sanmarcos | i hate rss feeds. you cant even get the files, everybody tries to get them at once, with automated clients, and nothing ever gets distributed. |
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| 09:56.12 | sanmarcos | its nice by design, but in implementation, it sucks |
| 09:56.27 | sanmarcos | and again it all comes down to money |
| 09:56.43 | dak | thats why their is ntp |
| 09:57.10 | tux | here is what I get : |
| 09:57.11 | sanmarcos | that is why there is bittorrent! |
| 09:57.11 | tux | Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source faiIgnoring this package. Maybe you need to add somethsources.list, |
| 09:57.11 | tux | maybe the contrib and non-free archives. |
| 09:57.25 | sanmarcos | and now with this two-tier internet, it wil be even worst |
| 09:57.30 | sanmarcos | again, money is the cause! |
| 09:57.36 | liable | tux: um, and you added those sources? |
| 09:57.46 | enouf | sanmarcos: internet2 ? |
| 09:57.55 | tux | no, which ones? |
| 09:57.55 | enouf | or IPv6 |
| 09:58.01 | tux | I am new to deabin =) |
| 09:58.04 | liable | !reference |
| 09:58.05 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 09:58.13 | sanmarcos | enouf, wtf, no, rtfm! |
| 09:58.17 | liable | tux: ^^ read it, its very good doc for new to debian |
| 09:58.20 | jargon | technically wifi is not allowed as an internet2 isp |
| 09:58.23 | sanmarcos | liable, the debian reference is the shit |
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| 09:58.31 | jargon | doesnt meet the guidelines |
| 09:58.38 | enouf | sanmarcos: wft ? stfu! |
| 09:58.47 | liable | sanmarcos: s/the/teh/ :P |
| 09:58.48 | jargon | i would be afraid of internet2 wifi |
| 09:58.58 | sanmarcos | its all about money |
| 09:59.03 | jargon | worse than living under powerlines |
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| 09:59.07 | glontu | hello |
| 09:59.10 | sanmarcos | powerlines? money |
| 09:59.15 | glontu | has anyone installed the imq kernel patch ? |
| 09:59.23 | sanmarcos | the what? |
| 09:59.37 | glontu | the patch that enables imq in iptables |
| 09:59.45 | jargon | dont mind me i am too scared to sleep |
| 09:59.59 | jargon | i diverge from the point of the current topic |
| 10:00.25 | enouf | jargon: what is it about hw that you'd like to know ? |
| 10:00.25 | sanmarcos | is that like a parody of me? |
| 10:00.40 | jargon | nothing? |
| 10:00.49 | jargon | i dont care about hardware |
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| 10:01.10 | enouf | jargon: good -- make sure it stays the way |
| 10:01.18 | sanmarcos | ohhh |
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| 10:01.34 | jargon | i just buy a compaq widescreen xbrite with radeon xpress 200m and 3200+ athlon64 |
| 10:01.46 | enouf | sanmarcos Fsck you! and your two-tiered dildos |
| 10:01.49 | jargon | and dvd/cd rw 64x |
| 10:02.05 | jargon | wih usb 2.0 |
| 10:02.11 | jargon | and iam good to go |
| 10:02.20 | jargon | plus 1gb ddr |
| 10:02.27 | tux | ok, too sleepy =) will do it tomorow lol |
| 10:02.31 | tux | thx guys |
| 10:02.39 | jargon | or whatever laptops use |
| 10:02.54 | JohnQ | "sensors" doesn't report any information about cpu temp or anything.. |
| 10:02.54 | sanmarcos | procrastinaro |
| 10:03.03 | sanmarcos | !tell JohnQ about sensors |
| 10:03.15 | sanmarcos | !tell JohnQ about lmsensors |
| 10:03.18 | phpDude | how can I install a package older than the one available using APT |
| 10:03.24 | JohnQ | :-) |
| 10:03.39 | sanmarcos | phpDude, find the .deb and install it with dpkg -i |
| 10:03.44 | sanmarcos | phpDude, or get a time machine |
| 10:03.44 | liable | JohnQ: if you want a nice gui for that shit, try gkrellm |
| 10:03.57 | jargon | JohnQ are you using a desktop or a laptop. there is a sensor that provides info on which way is up on the mobo |
| 10:03.57 | sanmarcos | haha liable, nice lingo |
| 10:04.10 | JohnQ | desktop |
| 10:04.17 | phpDude | sanmarcos, I prefer the time machine! |
| 10:04.21 | liable | sanmarcos: i am all class :) |
| 10:04.24 | sanmarcos | i dont know why people care. I used to care, until I read that the processor burns at 90C |
| 10:04.34 | sanmarcos | it will never get that hot, and the bios shuts down at 60, so why give a crap |
| 10:04.35 | phpDude | but I really find this really annoying, why can't someone install an older version using apt-get |
| 10:04.50 | sanmarcos | phpDude, get a delorean on ebay. Short answer, no |
| 10:04.56 | liable | phpDude: use aptitude |
| 10:05.09 | JohnQ | I did install lm-sensors.. but no information is returned by running "sensors" |
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| 10:05.21 | liable | !gkrellm |
| 10:05.21 | dpkg | gkrellm just rocks. http://gkrellm.net, or have a look at http://gkrellm.luon.net for 4 cool plugins If you have seen the movie Forbidden Planet, you might recall the Krell had a room with wall to wall meters for monitoring their power systems, and that is what I was thinking of when I came up with the GKrellM name. |
| 10:05.29 | sanmarcos | JohnQ, it is pointless shit, run sensors-detect as root |
| 10:05.34 | sanmarcos | JohnQ or use acpi for sensors |
| 10:05.47 | sanmarcos | JohnQ, when your cpu is on fire, you'll know anyways |
| 10:05.49 | JohnQ | Not running X at the moment or I would be running gkrellm :-/ |
| 10:05.50 | dak | dondelelcaro: thanks for the ban |
| 10:05.59 | JohnQ | sensors-detect finds no i2c devices. |
| 10:06.53 | sanmarcos | i2c needs to be enabled in the kernel |
| 10:06.57 | sanmarcos | grep -i i2c /boot/config |
| 10:07.14 | sanmarcos | but if it doenst work then it means your hardware is not supported, then try ACPI sensors |
| 10:07.18 | JohnQ | I apparently have no /boot/config |
| 10:07.28 | sanmarcos | config-$(uname -r) |
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| 10:07.56 | JohnQ | ya, its listed as being a module. |
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| 10:08.33 | mutante_ | is there any technical way that 2 or more netcat processes on the same box can listen to the same UDP port on localhost and receive data from there? |
| 10:09.09 | PumpkinPie | how do I get my exim version |
| 10:09.16 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, I already told you |
| 10:09.22 | JohnQ | alrighty.. I'm getting frustrated. Going to swap motherboards. As sucky as that may be. |
| 10:09.28 | liable | phpDude: dpkg -l exim-daemon-light |
| 10:09.31 | sanmarcos | JohnQ, wating your time |
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| 10:09.51 | JohnQ | any other suggestions on how to diagnose a random reboot? |
| 10:10.08 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: I have two exim packages installed so thats not helping |
| 10:10.21 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: like I already told you |
| 10:10.25 | liable | PumpkinPie: dpkg -l exim4-daemon-light |
| 10:10.49 | liable | PumpkinPie: or heavy.. or just dpkg -l |grep exim |
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| 10:11.22 | PumpkinPie | I have exim 3 and 4 installed.. via the package management.... |
| 10:11.38 | PumpkinPie | I dont know which one is running by looking at the packages |
| 10:11.38 | liable | i find that hard to believe |
| 10:12.48 | cahoot | PumpkinPie: no useful info in the logs? |
| 10:12.51 | PumpkinPie | hey with dpkg whats the difference between ii and pn ? |
| 10:13.01 | jargon | maybe your sensor doesnt exist |
| 10:13.14 | JohnQ | shows up in bios :-) |
| 10:13.15 | sanmarcos | maybe your mobo is so ghetto as not to have sensors |
| 10:13.17 | jargon | JohnQ |
| 10:13.31 | sanmarcos | nobody really cares about sensors, so support is limited |
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| 10:13.34 | PumpkinPie | exim says "pn" and exim4 says "ii" in dkpg |
| 10:13.35 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, man dpkg |
| 10:13.39 | liable | PumpkinPie: installed, purged no configs |
| 10:14.17 | enouf | grumbles something about s tupid fsken b0z0 apps like rss feeds, java fsken laden bullshit, macro-monkey flash crap. -- you assholes |
| 10:14.33 | enouf | JohnQ -- you likely have electrical issues |
| 10:14.49 | PumpkinPie | I do have exim3 and 4 installed via packages but exim3 is without configs |
| 10:14.52 | enouf | JohnQ -- Change the PCI slot that uyou put in this newer hardare into |
| 10:14.57 | sanmarcos | dpkg -l | egrep -v "^(ii|pn)" is nice |
| 10:14.58 | dpkg | No packages found matching | egrep -v "^ii" is nice |
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| 10:15.24 | JohnQ | enouf.. righto... I'll try that. back in a sec |
| 10:15.29 | PumpkinPie | liable: I remember installing both bind8 and bind9 via the package management system... why is that hard to believe |
| 10:15.46 | enouf | JohnQ -- Atleast double-check that it's seated properly and you did not accidentally knock of a connector wire from any other components |
| 10:15.50 | PumpkinPie | and they were installed at the same time |
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| 10:17.41 | mateuszk | Hi |
| 10:18.02 | mateuszk | I have a problem with libGL any help ? |
| 10:18.09 | mateuszk | libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b... etc |
| 10:18.22 | mateuszk | and the screen is blinking |
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| 10:19.08 | PumpkinPie | rc vpopmail-bin 5.4.4-1 <- why does dkpg -l show this if I purged removed it? |
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| 10:19.33 | foo | hm, I can't seem to mount my drive /dev/hdd or /dev/hdd1 for some reason. mount /dev/hdd1 /public says no filesystem found, specify. I try to mount /dev/hdd .. and it says it's busy. lsof | grep hdd shows nothing. Any ideas? |
| 10:19.52 | liable | PumpkinPie: because one will normally conflict with the other. |
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| 10:20.28 | liable | PumpkinPie: thus, its normally impossible to have two versions of a package installed |
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| 10:20.44 | nick37343 | #lamers |
| 10:20.47 | PumpkinPie | liable: ive done so with exim and bind |
| 10:20.47 | nick37343 | #lamers |
| 10:21.16 | PumpkinPie | rc vpopmail-bin 5.4.4-1 <- why does dkpg -l show this if I purged removed it? |
| 10:21.25 | PumpkinPie | or how do I remove it from the list at least |
| 10:21.42 | enouf | foo: - check the physical connections - make sure hdd is lsited in /etc/fstab |
| 10:21.56 | wols | PumpkinPie: purge |
| 10:22.15 | liable | PumpkinPie: well, on my sarge box, exim-base confilcts exim, so i dunno how you did it... |
| 10:22.46 | PumpkinPie | wols: I just said I did purge |
| 10:22.51 | liable | exim4-base. |
| 10:23.05 | foo | enouf: fdisk -l /dev/hdd shows hdd1 ... I just added it to fstab, that didn't help. |
| 10:23.28 | nick37343 | im ddos you. |
| 10:23.44 | liable | nick37343: dont be such a pitifull wanker |
| 10:24.16 | nick37343 | im ddos you |
| 10:24.31 | enouf | foo: - what kind of HDD is it -- Sata? |
| 10:25.05 | enouf | foo: - what's on /hdc? an optical drive ? |
| 10:25.23 | foo | enouf: hdd and hdc are both ata. |
| 10:25.28 | enouf | ok |
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| 10:25.36 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:25.52 | enouf | what does 'mount' say |
| 10:26.04 | enouf | jus mount |
| 10:26.28 | foo | enouf: What do you want to see, specifically? |
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| 10:26.38 | foo | /dev/hdc1 on /backup type ext3 (rw) |
| 10:26.41 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.43 | JohnQ | enouf: swapped pci slots. Machine rebooted 50 seconds after i engaged the tuner. |
| 10:26.43 | foo | returns nothing. |
| 10:27.03 | enouf | What FS is on hdd |
| 10:27.13 | enouf | pastebin your /etc/fstab |
| 10:27.26 | nick37343 | ./dns liable |
| 10:27.31 | foo | enouf: Can't get to a pastebin right now. PM |
| 10:27.31 | foo | ? |
| 10:27.41 | enouf | go to #flood and do it |
| 10:27.51 | wols | !paster |
| 10:27.52 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 10:27.54 | nick37343 | (12:28) * Dns resolving pdpc/supporter/active/liable |
| 10:28.20 | enouf | nick37343 ;; go the fuck away you shithead!. |
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| 10:28.35 | nick37343 | ./dns enouf |
| 10:28.47 | nick37343 | 68.198.108.41 |
| 10:28.48 | enouf | ouch - you hurt me |
| 10:28.56 | wols | !ops nick37343 is trolling |
| 10:28.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: wols complains about: nick37343 is trolling |
| 10:29.03 | enouf | yeah - you like my Proxy huh? |
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| 10:29.51 | liable | JohnQ: return it. |
| 10:30.50 | JohnQ | yeah yeah. I dont believe it is the card. not yet. |
| 10:31.29 | xsquared | im trying to compile a plugin for xchat but im missing some dev packages. do you know what Im missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20438 |
| 10:32.00 | nick37343 | welcome tyo [*] stacheldraht [*] |
| 10:32.07 | PumpkinPie | rc libvpopmail-my 5.4. <- dkpg is cutting off the rest of the package name and I cant see it |
| 10:32.12 | liable | JohnQ: and how the fuck do we convince you otherwise? you dont get logs, you dont get kernel oops messages.. |
| 10:32.18 | nick37343 | ping 68.198.108.41 |
| 10:32.22 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, export COLS=200 |
| 10:32.25 | sanmarcos | !qotd0 |
| 10:32.26 | dpkg | methinks qotd160 is <mhall> sanmarcos: i'm beginning to wonder about the size of the clue-free zone in which you live <sanmarcos> mhall: huh? <sanmarcos> clue-free ? <sanmarcos> i.e "have no clue" |
| 10:32.39 | liable | hah |
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| 10:32.46 | sanmarcos | wow!! that was lucky! |
| 10:32.48 | JohnQ | dude.. relax. |
| 10:33.06 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: I dont know how to use that |
| 10:33.28 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, just run that command in the shell, and try the dpkg command again |
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| 10:34.55 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: its not going to fubar my computr right |
| 10:35.11 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: one time someone told me to type rm -rf / |
| 10:35.13 | sanmarcos | PumpkinPie, no, man export, man dpkg |
| 10:35.17 | PumpkinPie | and it was no good |
| 10:35.24 | sanmarcos | right |
| 10:36.13 | _edrin | how do i have to configure my router so my pcs can create a vpn connection to the internet? |
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| 10:36.47 | PumpkinPie | sanmarcos: it still cuts it off |
| 10:36.50 | nuambenzina | hello ! |
| 10:36.59 | nuambenzina | dose somebody use a soft like Where Is it? ( http://www.whereisit-soft.com/ ) but for linux/fbsd? I have a big collection of music and i wish to sort/catalogate it and back-it up on DVD`s |
| 10:37.02 | PumpkinPie | there nos no manual page for export |
| 10:37.10 | cahoot | PumpkinPie: IIRC it's COLUMNS=200 |
| 10:37.50 | liable | yah, dpkg -l COLUMNS=200 |
| 10:37.56 | sanmarcos | help export |
| 10:37.56 | PumpkinPie | wow thats weird shit |
| 10:38.15 | PumpkinPie | didn't know you could arrange columns *thumbs up* |
| 10:38.33 | sanmarcos | you can do all sorts of weird shit |
| 10:38.36 | sanmarcos | man cut, man awk |
| 10:38.51 | cahoot | man english |
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| 10:39.10 | wols | No manual entry for english |
| 10:40.35 | sanmarcos | wow I keep typing qotd0 and I get quotes about me, am I really popular or what? or dpkg has some sort of code to scan the username |
| 10:40.50 | sanmarcos | qotd24, thats is twice in one night |
| 10:40.58 | liable | sanmarcos: no, you must just be popular |
| 10:41.04 | sanmarcos | yay |
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| 10:41.31 | gan|y|med | hello |
| 10:42.04 | sanmarcos | jello gan|y|med |
| 10:42.10 | glontu | any ideea why my arrows don't scrool up and down when i read a man page ? |
| 10:42.12 | sanmarcos | how can we help you? |
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| 10:42.21 | sanmarcos | glontu, what terminal are you using? |
| 10:42.27 | sanmarcos | glontu, you can use k and j also |
| 10:42.30 | mha13 | how can i disable dma ? |
| 10:42.32 | glontu | i'm logged in via ssh |
| 10:42.37 | sanmarcos | mha13, /msg dpkg hdparm |
| 10:42.39 | sanmarcos | glontu, putty? |
| 10:42.40 | liable | mha13: man hdparm |
| 10:42.59 | glontu | yes |
| 10:43.02 | mha13 | will it affect stabilty ? |
| 10:43.07 | sanmarcos | glontu, disable application keypad |
| 10:43.13 | glontu | k and j won't work either |
| 10:43.25 | sanmarcos | glontu, settings > terminal > features > disable application cursor keys mode |
| 10:43.29 | liable | glontu: use screen and its copy buffer |
| 10:43.39 | sanmarcos | liable, that will be even harder for him |
| 10:43.40 | glontu | i'll try |
| 10:43.49 | sanmarcos | what does echo $TERM say? |
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| 10:44.15 | mha13 | im getting error dma status 0X61 from hda and then busey errors from hda |
| 10:44.27 | sanmarcos | mha13, might be hda is fscked up |
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| 10:45.34 | mha13 | sanmarcos: i had run fsck (with no errors) |
| 10:45.37 | wols | mha13: smartmontools long test time |
| 10:45.43 | cahoot | mha13: faulty cabel/controller? |
| 10:46.41 | mha13 | cahoot:i tried fiffrent cables so i fuess controller |
| 10:46.43 | glontu | how do i add a patch to the kernel with dpkg ? |
| 10:46.56 | wols | fuess? |
| 10:47.03 | mha13 | cahoot:if make dma off will it make any diffrence ? |
| 10:47.04 | gan|y|med | where can i see the speedstep settings (cpu speed) in /proc? |
| 10:47.06 | gan|y|med | there must be some entry showing the speedstep info (T-state). do you know where it is? |
| 10:47.07 | cahoot | guess i guess |
| 10:47.19 | mha13 | wols: guess |
| 10:47.29 | sanmarcos | glontu, man make-mkpkg |
| 10:47.39 | wols | mha13: how do you know it's not the harddisk? |
| 10:47.49 | wols | usually when mind died I got 0x61 errors |
| 10:48.09 | mha13 | wols: i v checked it on other pc .. and all works gr8 |
| 10:48.46 | mha13 | wols: no im really afraid new hdd here costs 200$ (the small ones) |
| 10:48.50 | amphi | gan|y|med: /proc/cpuinfo will show the current freq |
| 10:48.52 | liable | glontu: normally done in /sys |
| 10:48.59 | liable | gan|y|med: ^^ |
| 10:49.20 | cahoot | mha13: related to recent kernel change? |
| 10:49.31 | glontu | sanmarcos : No manual entry for make-mkpkg |
| 10:49.39 | sanmarcos | glontu, man make-kpkg |
| 10:49.41 | gan|y|med | yes, thanks. but what is with the t-state? i wanna be able to follow the dynamic switching t check if it works properly (i use powernowd) |
| 10:49.47 | glontu | oh ... sorry |
| 10:49.55 | mha13 | cahoot: i did upfrade to 2.6.17-1 but a mont ago .. |
| 10:50.05 | mha13 | cahoot: upgrade |
| 10:50.14 | cahoot | mha13: ok never mind then |
| 10:50.32 | gan|y|med | another q: is there any way that linux (whatsoever) decreases the lifetime of a laptop battery (this is a SERIOUS question)? |
| 10:50.37 | mha13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.19 | sanmarcos | glontu, also msg dpkg debian kernel |
| 10:51.26 | liable | gan|y|med: linux isnt as smart when it comes to that sort of thing. though theres an app for thinkpad for smarter battery controll |
| 10:52.04 | wols | mha13: it could but very unlikely when it worked for a month |
| 10:52.07 | mha13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.10 | wols | if it were a new kernel, it could be |
| 10:52.28 | sanmarcos | glontu, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html |
| 10:52.34 | mha13 | wols:k so first ill try to upgrade to a newer kernel .. |
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| 10:52.58 | wols | mha13: very unlikely it will help |
| 10:53.21 | mha13 | wols:hmm .. how can i check the controller ? |
| 10:53.36 | mha13 | wols:i mean via some prog .. |
| 10:53.52 | wols | mha13: afaik there is no way |
| 10:54.04 | wols | but you should still run smartmontools |
| 10:54.24 | wols | since it's possibly the controller, several times, especially if something is marginal. the long test |
| 10:55.04 | mha13 | wols: mmm (no i have an idea for my first year project /elctrical eng. and Softwere Eng.) |
| 10:55.31 | mha13 | wols: the kernel should be from other device right ? |
| 10:55.52 | gan|y|med | mha13: thanks, but how to set it up? i had to buy a new one after only 10 month (200 Euro)° |
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| 10:56.54 | mha13 | gan|y|med:if you have AVO home check for it's voltage and check when you use it . it should be no more then 15 % under usage |
| 10:57.03 | mha13 | *AVO at home |
| 10:57.15 | xsquared | im trying to compile a plugin for xchat but im missing some dev packages. do you know what Im missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20438 |
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| 10:57.44 | mha13 | gan|y|med:also take your laptop to custumer service .. |
| 10:58.12 | gan|y|med | AVO? |
| 10:59.13 | mha13 | gan|y|med: Amper Voltage Ohem meter |
| 11:00.14 | mha13 | gan|y|med:you need some kind of Electrical meter. |
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| 11:00.34 | threw | hi all ! |
| 11:00.46 | foo | Having some problems. fsck reports 150k files on my drive, but when I try to mount it... mount can't find the fs on the drive. Any ideas? |
| 11:00.57 | gan|y|med | you mean the capacity shouldn't go below 15 %? |
| 11:00.58 | cunzhang | hi,when I boot debin ,the shorewall always has error: ipt_policy: matchsize 116 != 308 |
| 11:00.59 | cunzhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:02.25 | mha13 | gan|y|med:no you need to check the voltage before using and while using it and while you are using it the voltage shouldnot bee less then 15% then before (85%) |
| 11:02.42 | mha13 | gan|y|med:afaik you can see the voltage using ksensors. |
| 11:02.54 | gan|y|med | ok, i'll try that |
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| 11:07.53 | sanmarcos | what are the default perms for /etc/passwd? |
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| 11:08.44 | epsilon | root:root 755 |
| 11:08.59 | threw | i have a little problem: im trying to load "parport" module: http://pastebin.ca/raw/129095 ! Does this mean that the modul is compiled in the kernel please . |
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| 11:09.06 | epsilon | eh, 644 |
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| 11:11.12 | threw | ops ;-p does anyone answered to my question please ? ;) |
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| 11:11.26 | asg | threw: /boot/config-$(uname -r) will tell you |
| 11:11.30 | liable | threw: well, you dont have parpart.ko oviously.. |
| 11:11.38 | ganymed | hi, had some probs with acpi power down and so on |
| 11:11.46 | liable | threw: as asg said, check your config |
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| 11:12.21 | mha13 | ganymed:what type of ? |
| 11:13.00 | ganymed | mha13: what do you mean? |
| 11:13.04 | mha13 | 10xs for answers (dpkg you 2) have to now .. |
| 11:13.31 | mha13 | ganymed: what type of problems and what type off cpu |
| 11:13.43 | mha13 | have to go now .. |
| 11:14.08 | mha13 | ganymed: *of cpu |
| 11:15.34 | ganymed | centrino (single core) - 1.87 GHz. my problem i, that my last battery survived only 10 months while the one of a friend of mine (same laptop - samsung x20) is still using his first under winxp |
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| 11:16.54 | threw | asg & liable: the result of command is here: http://pastebin.ca/raw/129114 thats mean thats parport is compiled into the kernel no ? |
| 11:17.48 | asg | threw: yes |
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| 11:19.32 | threw | ok, thx for your help ;-p |
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| 11:22.46 | phpDude | anyone here compiled php4 & apache 1.3 on debian? |
| 11:23.30 | asg | phpDude: probably but why compile when you can just apt-get what you need? |
| 11:24.49 | phpDude | asg, I want to compile PHP staticly into Apache |
| 11:24.53 | phpDude | boosts performance |
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| 11:25.02 | phpDude | and I have better control on the modules |
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| 11:31.17 | Madkiss | hi all. |
| 11:31.34 | Madkiss | Trying to install grub on my MacBook Pro (the etch version), I get "No such partition" when doing "root (hd0,2)" |
| 11:31.38 | foo | I used to be able to mount /dev/hdd /folder... I know this is bad, but that is how I did it on debian. Now, on ubuntu, I get: mount /dev/hdd already mounted or /public/ busy ... any ideas? |
| 11:31.44 | Madkiss | What's wrong? |
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| 11:32.54 | ganymed | how do i see the voltage params of my battery in ksensors? |
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| 11:35.01 | phpDude | cd php |
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| 11:46.04 | pir | Hi everybody! |
| 11:46.17 | pir | I'd some advices. |
| 11:46.55 | pir | Which Latex is the easiest for beginners? |
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| 11:47.22 | pir | I can't use ooo anymore, too unstable on my debian. |
| 11:48.19 | wols | Lyx I guess |
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| 11:50.19 | pir | wols > thx, (i had to do a repport for a trainning period) |
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| 11:52.01 | gebruiker | how do I know if I have : Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding Coppermine, I know it's celeron... |
| 11:52.27 | SpeedyG | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 11:52.41 | SpeedyG | there should be some more about it |
| 11:54.03 | liable | gebruiker: i think the family and model are what will tel |
| 11:54.06 | liable | l |
| 11:54.19 | liable | gebruiker: google is your friend |
| 11:55.02 | JohnQ | can anyone suggest a good motherboard which will NOT have a via chipset that'll take an amd athlon 2600+? |
| 11:55.19 | JohnQ | or even just reccoment a chipset :-) |
| 11:55.30 | wols | JohnQ: any nforce2 based mobo |
| 11:55.31 | asg | JohnQ: try #hardware |
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| 11:56.22 | wols | gebruiker: you can know from family, model and stepping. but what you have is a Pentium4 |
| 11:56.51 | wols | unless it's a notebook, but then it's awfully fast for a Celeron-M |
| 11:57.06 | abrotman | it's a -686 as far as debian precompiled kernels go |
| 11:57.56 | dbe | Why is not lex avalibe in Stable sarge? |
| 11:58.11 | dvs | dbe: It's called flex |
| 11:58.21 | dvs | !info flew sarge |
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| 11:58.27 | abrotman | flex? |
| 11:58.29 | dvs | !info flex sarge |
| 11:58.31 | dpkg | flex: (A fast lexical analyzer generator.), section devel, is standard. Version: 2.5.31-31sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 251 kB, Installed size: 768 kB |
| 11:58.36 | dbe | What about yacc |
| 11:58.41 | abrotman | it's there too |
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| 11:58.45 | dvs | !info bison sarge |
| 11:58.47 | dpkg | bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:1.875d-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 686 kB, Installed size: 1400 kB |
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| 11:59.02 | abrotman | dbe: come on .. apt-cache search yacc |
| 11:59.41 | abrotman | what about make??!? |
| 11:59.54 | dvs | info ma... screw it! |
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| 12:00.57 | sk4nK | I can't get a video node to work for my webcam, i think i've got the drivers loaded (ov511), but when i run `motion` i get "Failed to open video device /dev/video0: No such device" even thought /dev/video0 seems to exist. can anyone give me a clue what i am doing wrong? |
| 12:01.19 | dbe | I have bison gcc make flex but I get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eImzfu57.html when I run this manual http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/build/ |
| 12:01.20 | abrotman | are you in the right group ? |
| 12:01.38 | abrotman | !b-e dbe |
| 12:01.39 | dpkg | dbe: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 12:02.02 | abrotman | dbe: why are you compiling alsa? |
| 12:02.08 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 12:02.11 | gebruiker | how do I know if I have : Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding Coppermine, I know it's celeron... |
| 12:02.23 | dvs | gebruiker: you got your answer |
| 12:02.29 | asg | gebruiker: open the case and look |
| 12:02.35 | dbe | abrotman, I compile ChucK (audio programming language) |
| 12:02.37 | abrotman | gebruiker: it's a -686 if you're looking at precompiled debian kernels |
| 12:02.39 | gebruiker | i'm remotely connected ...... |
| 12:02.42 | abrotman | dbe: i realized that |
| 12:02.47 | RvGaTe | Will there be any packages included to run a irc-bouncer on the upcoming stable? |
| 12:02.52 | abrotman | gebruiker: why do you need to know ? |
| 12:02.57 | gebruiker | abrotman: i'm trying to do a costum comopile |
| 12:03.10 | gebruiker | i'm remotly conneted |
| 12:03.16 | gebruiker | sorry for my bad english |
| 12:03.24 | abrotman | gebruiker: this is a recipe for disaster .. why are you compiling your own ? |
| 12:03.41 | RvGaTe | gebruiker, OT: verander je naam even met /nick nieuwenaam |
| 12:03.57 | liable | gebruiker: doing a custom compile, without a clue, is a really bad idea. what will you do when you get a kernel panic? |
| 12:04.02 | gebruiker | this is not the first time I compiled a Kernel. I hafve only a hard time finding out remotly what it is. |
| 12:04.15 | abrotman | gebruiker: WHY are you compiling a kernel ? |
| 12:04.19 | gebruiker | as I said, lspci and dmesg didn't show me |
| 12:04.25 | gebruiker | wtf does that have to do with it? |
| 12:04.32 | gebruiker | don't change my question man |
| 12:04.39 | abrotman | because noone wants to help you screw up your machine |
| 12:05.01 | dbe | Thank you abrotman. |
| 12:05.07 | abrotman | dbe: all working? |
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| 12:05.11 | dbe | Yes. |
| 12:05.11 | gebruiker | so give me a clear answer then |
| 12:05.15 | abrotman | we did! |
| 12:05.38 | dbe | abrotman, It will be nice to try out this new language =) |
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| 12:05.42 | gebruiker | How does one find out remotly what kind of cpu it is? Is it pre-Coppermine or Coppermine |
| 12:05.53 | gebruiker | cat /proc/cpuinfo doesn't show anything |
| 12:05.57 | gebruiker | usefull |
| 12:05.57 | abrotman | it's a P4 CPU .. |
| 12:06.29 | liable | gebruiker: we told you, family and model.... |
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| 12:06.37 | gebruiker | it's a celeron(R) CPU 2.13 ghz |
| 12:06.46 | abrotman | that is not family/model |
| 12:06.57 | gebruiker | cpu family: 15 model : 4 |
| 12:07.05 | abrotman | oh NO .. not a 15! |
| 12:07.12 | asg | the same! |
| 12:07.23 | abrotman | he can't compile a kernel .. it's a 15!!!!!! |
| 12:07.31 | gebruiker | ? |
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| 12:07.53 | pir | This error appear :" you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." How to fix it? |
| 12:08.02 | abrotman | you run that command |
| 12:08.16 | pir | even if it worked well before? |
| 12:08.31 | asg | pir: did you run 'dpkg --configure -a'? |
| 12:08.42 | gebruiker | abrotman: ????? |
| 12:08.45 | pir | asg: not yet |
| 12:08.50 | gebruiker | are you joking abrotman? |
| 12:08.57 | abrotman | yes i'm joking |
| 12:09.17 | abrotman | gebruiker: it's probably a PIV .. ask #kernel to be sure |
| 12:09.45 | abrotman | gebruiker: and if that's not an option .. you can safely use PIII |
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| 12:09.50 | foo | Ok, I did mount /dev/hdd /folder on debian stable ..but on debian server 6.06 I do that, and it throws this error: mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /public/ busy. I've spent hours on this problem with no luck. I think something debian did ubuntu doesn't do or something. Any ideas? |
| 12:10.18 | pir | asg: how does it come that suddently i need to reconfigure dpkg? |
| 12:10.21 | liable | gebruiker: its coppermine |
| 12:10.23 | asg | foo: umount /folder |
| 12:10.30 | foo | asg: It's not mounted |
| 12:10.32 | asg | pir: are you using sid or etch? |
| 12:10.37 | pir | sarge |
| 12:10.45 | foo | asg: heh, I wish it was that simple. it's 5 am here. |
| 12:10.54 | asg | foo: it often is that simple |
| 12:11.12 | asg | pir: what were you doing when you got that error? put the lot in a pastebin |
| 12:11.14 | foo | asg: umount: /public/: not mounted. |
| 12:11.15 | foo | asg: I wish. |
| 12:11.17 | liable | foo: um, debian server, or ubuntu server.. |
| 12:11.28 | asg | liable: 6.06, what do you think |
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| 12:11.58 | foo | liable: I am on ubuntu server. This worked fine on debian server. I think ubuntu has a newer version of mount. hm |
| 12:12.05 | pir | asg: i came here and ask why it suddently appears and nothing else |
| 12:12.05 | liable | asg: you tell me, seeing as he said debian |
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| 12:12.40 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.42 | abrotman | foo: uh .. so it's a problem with ubuntu ? |
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| 12:13.08 | asg | pir: we don't know unless you provide information. Provide information. |
| 12:13.29 | abrotman | foo: ask #ubuntu |
| 12:13.36 | foo | abrotman: yeah, but I'm curious what debian did different that could affect this. I tried grabbing debian's mount binary for kicks. |
| 12:13.48 | foo | abrotman: I have asked in every linux channel on 2 networks for the past few hours. No luck. |
| 12:14.02 | Tallu | Switching off debian usually isn't the best way to get help around here.. |
| 12:14.12 | abrotman | foo: try fuser or lsof to see why |
| 12:14.23 | foo | Tallu: heh. I was waiting for something like that |
| 12:14.29 | foo | abrotman: I tried lsof | grep hdd, no go. |
| 12:14.36 | foo | Tallu: I have debian on my other servers if that means anything, heh. |
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| 12:15.06 | asg | foo: I have OpenBSD on my other servers, would you expect us to answer questions about that in here? |
| 12:15.20 | abrotman | foo: something is using it .. really .. mess with fuser/lsof .. look at hdd and public/ |
| 12:15.29 | abrotman | foo: now really .. please go to #ubuntu |
| 12:15.37 | Tallu | foo: I have a win2k3 server at work.. wonder if they'd answer my debian questions at ##windows.. |
| 12:15.48 | foo | Alright, you got me. |
| 12:15.51 | foo | I'm gone. |
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| 12:21.28 | yetifoot | is it bad to use KPackage for installing, should i be using something else on debian, i see people mentioning synaptic, apt-get etc |
| 12:22.27 | asg | yetifoot: if it works and doesn't break your system, it should be fine. |
| 12:22.37 | dvs | yetifoot: they are all front ends to dpkg so I can't imagine why kpackage would be bad |
| 12:23.08 | yetifoot | thanks, hasn't seem to break it yet, i'm just new so a little unsure |
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| 12:24.11 | lunitik | yetifoot: kpackage works... prolly best qt based package manager ... adept sucks (doesn't even work correctly on debian) |
| 12:25.05 | yetifoot | yeah, i like using it, i prefer it to some of the others, i've been mainly used to windows, so i like to be spoonfed an easy gui |
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| 12:27.02 | lunitik | synaptic etc sucks when using qt/kde |
| 12:27.36 | lunitik | Can use apt-get or aptitude, aptitude even has a TUI... but KPackage is fine for a pretty GUI w/ KDE |
| 12:27.36 | cydork | lunitik, many people wont agree with you :) |
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| 12:28.11 | abrotman | he didnt' say apt-get .. he uses some weird apg-get |
| 12:28.16 | lunitik | cydork: people won't agree that synaptic sucks? |
| 12:28.22 | asg | abrotman: pg-tips-get |
| 12:28.29 | abrotman | most gui package managers suck |
| 12:28.34 | asg | s/most/all/ |
| 12:28.49 | cydork | s/apg-get/apt-get/ |
| 12:28.53 | abrotman | i wasn't going to say all ... i can't have seen all of them |
| 12:29.05 | asg | abrotman: are you going to run one on your servers? |
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| 12:29.20 | abrotman | asg: that would require X .. do i smell stupid ? |
| 12:29.33 | asg | abrotman: exactly, hence the use of the term 'all' |
| 12:29.38 | abrotman | asg: that's something a KDE user would do |
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| 12:30.48 | Tallu | So what are the related security risks of having X on a server, or what is it that makes it so damn stupid? Just out of curiosity. :) |
| 12:31.05 | abrotman | if you have to ask . you should give all your servers back :) |
| 12:31.28 | lunitik | Tallu: other than waste of resources... nothing at all |
| 12:31.35 | Tallu | Well hey, I dont have X running on it, I'm just curious as to the reasons |
| 12:31.54 | Tallu | lunitik: hehe okay |
| 12:32.00 | asg | Tallu: more packages installed than what the server needs to do its job. |
| 12:32.24 | liable | hows that a security risk? |
| 12:32.25 | abrotman | Tallu: it's not unusual to see X go and take the system with it |
| 12:32.39 | asg | liable: more potential vulnerabilities |
| 12:32.46 | abrotman | Tallu: on top of having more packages/processes and those being a security issue |
| 12:32.51 | Tallu | Yeah, I reckon that makes sense. more time backing up useless data and doing it slower cause of running processes |
| 12:32.58 | wols | what about xlibs and apps only, with X server somewhere else? |
| 12:33.12 | abrotman | remote X ? |
| 12:33.28 | asg | Tallu: the general reason is that most people who want to run X apps on a server want to do so because they are inept system administrators. |
| 12:33.57 | wols | yes |
| 12:34.00 | abrotman | Tallu: you'll have people that install KDE or something so they can get at the system admin utilities because they don't know how to do it with an editor |
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| 12:34.39 | abrotman | wols: not much you can do about it when you want htmldoc on a server .. and it pulls in a pile of xlibs |
| 12:34.41 | Tallu | abrotman: oh yeah, and then we're back to where windows left us in the first place, computer illiterate people :P |
| 12:34.54 | wols | p |
| 12:35.03 | asg | wols: ethereal can read pcap files you know. |
| 12:35.29 | wols | asg: probably. still ran it on the server. does that make me a bad person? |
| 12:35.57 | abrotman | you will be sent to purgatory |
| 12:35.57 | asg | wols: bad, no. |
| 12:37.01 | wols | damn, feared so |
| 12:37.09 | wols | at least I have company from you abrotman |
| 12:37.36 | abrotman | wols: no .. i don't run X apps remotely .. i needed html2pdf .. and had to install a pile of X libs |
| 12:37.41 | abrotman | !depends htmldoc sarge |
| 12:37.44 | k31th | where can i check why security updats have been made etc ? |
| 12:37.45 | dpkg | htmldoc: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfltk1.1c102 (>= 1.1.6), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
| 12:37.48 | abrotman | like that |
| 12:37.53 | k31th | i.e login and passwd that just got updated |
| 12:38.01 | asg | k31th: subscribe to the debian security mailing list |
| 12:38.03 | wols | I'm sure you do enough bad things to deserve purgatory. your BoFHness can't be hidden |
| 12:38.08 | asg | k31th: or check www.debian.org |
| 12:38.08 | abrotman | k31th: security.debian.org |
| 12:38.20 | k31th | thanks guys |
| 12:38.25 | abrotman | wols: i deserve purgatory? |
| 12:38.33 | k31th | BOFH'ness is wat we are here for :D |
| 12:39.59 | Tallu | So, anyone built their own ether-killers yet |
| 12:40.01 | wols | abrotman: how could you doubt it? |
| 12:40.16 | lunitik | k31th: BOFH = bastard operator from hell? |
| 12:40.34 | abrotman | wols: i don't .. i was baptised and had a barmitzvah .. i'm pretty sure i'm fucked no matter what |
| 12:40.34 | wols | Tallu: another purgatory offense. killing innocent ethernet cards. almost as bad as kitten killing |
| 12:40.42 | asg | liable: apt-get install bsdgames ; /usr/games/wtf is BOFH |
| 12:40.46 | asg | bah |
| 12:40.55 | asg | s/liable/lunitik/ |
| 12:40.58 | wols | abrotman: one could say you tried to cover all the bases |
| 12:41.10 | abrotman | wols: not me .. my parents :) |
| 12:41.17 | abrotman | i didn't have a choice |
| 12:42.11 | asg | abrotman: yes you did, you could have demanded brains |
| 12:42.27 | wols | what about hindu, buddhism and islam. still uncovered there |
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| 12:42.44 | wols | of course it's never too late to start a hadj (sp?), so nothing's lost yet |
| 12:42.47 | abrotman | asg: i didn't even know i had been baptised until about 7-8 years ago |
| 12:43.09 | k31th | lunitik: yes :D |
| 12:43.14 | asg | abrotman: did it have any effect on you when you found out? |
| 12:43.43 | k31th | anyone know of a decent web based app that will tell me how much spam im getting etc how much mail is being sent etc etc |
| 12:43.45 | abrotman | asg: not really .. just that it cemented the idea that my parent's were dishonest :) |
| 12:43.53 | k31th | basically a web app to monitor email |
| 12:43.57 | asg | abrotman: ah, quite |
| 12:43.58 | k31th | (postfix) |
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| 12:44.20 | asg | k31th: cacti + some minor scripting to generate the correct values to feed to the RRDs |
| 12:44.21 | abrotman | ask #postfix |
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| 12:49.28 | k31th | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.33 | k31th | does that mean if i remove the package it will del the log ? |
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| 12:51.41 | lunitik | k31th: no, it will remove config files though |
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| 12:55.24 | farous | hi are there any tools that will spind down an external usb hard drive if the hard disk is not in use? |
| 12:55.55 | abrotman | they normally do that on their own |
| 12:56.31 | farous | abrotman: not here the hard disk really become hot after a while though i am not using it |
| 12:56.53 | abrotman | do you have acpi at all ? |
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| 12:57.00 | sk4nK | if i've got a webcam with an OmniVision chip, do i need the 'ov511' or the 'ovcamchip' module? and does the 'videodev' module provide the /dev/video node? |
| 12:57.20 | hjubal | ciao |
| 12:57.52 | farous | abrotman: yap i have it |
| 12:58.02 | cydork | sk4nK, /msg dpkg webcam |
| 12:58.15 | abrotman | farous: dunno .. mine spins down |
| 12:58.24 | abrotman | and i didn't do anything to it |
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| 12:59.15 | sk4nK | cydork: thanks |
| 12:59.27 | farous | abrotman: ok thanx i thought there are some tools for it like laptop-tools or something |
| 12:59.32 | farous | thanx for your help |
| 13:00.08 | abrotman | farous: could be an hdparm thing .. maybe .. but i don't recall messing with that either |
| 13:00.15 | abrotman | farous: how are you mounting it ? |
| 13:00.34 | farous | abrotman: pmount |
| 13:00.50 | farous | got to go will be back |
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| 13:04.56 | raccoon | does someone know how to setup 3d rendering on this card ATI RAGE MOBILITY M4 |
| 13:05.40 | raccoon | it's supose to be a mach64 |
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| 13:07.28 | nimurphy | hi, i edited /bashrc to create a new environment variable. when i echo $PGDATA, the value comes up but when i export |less, it doesnt come up |
| 13:07.39 | nimurphy | sorry, .bashrc |
| 13:07.58 | farous | back |
| 13:08.10 | farous | abrotman: if you are here give me a min to mount it |
| 13:08.32 | abrotman | farous: i also don't use pmount |
| 13:08.49 | cahoot | nimurphy: what if you 'source .bashrc' ? |
| 13:08.59 | farous | are there speical parameters with regular mount |
| 13:09.21 | abrotman | defaults,user,noauto |
| 13:09.22 | abrotman | that's mine |
| 13:09.41 | farous | abrotman: pmount is simialr to that take the default mount param |
| 13:09.51 | farous | looking at hdparm.conf now |
| 13:09.55 | abrotman | i just didn't know if it maybe mounts sync or something |
| 13:10.08 | nimurphy | cahoot: nothing happens, and export returns the same. |
| 13:10.44 | cahoot | nimurphy: what did you put into the file? |
| 13:11.32 | nimurphy | cahoot: in .bashrc, i just used 'PATH=/some/path:"$PATH"', and 'PGDATA='some/path' |
| 13:12.25 | nimurphy | cahoot: only thing i can think of is that PATH already existed, but as PGDATA didn't, should i have used export with the new one when editing .bashrc? |
| 13:12.44 | farous | abrotman: ok it is mounted now |
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| 13:13.29 | abrotman | farous: as i said .. mine just spins down .. i didn't do anything |
| 13:13.45 | farous | ok thanx for your help so far :) |
| 13:13.48 | abrotman | farous: how long are you waiting for it to spin down? (mine is also vfat) |
| 13:13.56 | cahoot | nimurphy: how about export PGDATA='some/path"? |
| 13:13.59 | abrotman | i think mine doesn't spin down for like 10-15 minutes |
| 13:14.24 | farous | abrotman: ok i just mounted it so will wait that time and see |
| 13:14.50 | abrotman | farous: if you want .. i can get it out and test or something like that :) |
| 13:15.44 | farous | abrotman: oh thanx. i forgot and let it on all night without using it. when i woke up it was really hot that what made me notice |
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| 13:16.07 | farous | now am doing some googling and at same time looking at what the sensors tell me |
| 13:16.08 | asg | farous: you could cook some breakfast on it |
| 13:16.22 | farous | asg: haha not that hot but pretty hot |
| 13:16.45 | asg | farous: or keep your coffee warm :) |
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| 13:16.52 | nimurphy | cahoot: yeah that did it. nice one |
| 13:17.03 | farous | :) that shoud be a dam expensive coffee |
| 13:17.40 | nimurphy | cahoot: i have to say, even as a c programmer, that bash programming syntax is pretty intimidating |
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| 13:18.01 | nimurphy | good fun though i'd say once you get used to it |
| 13:18.10 | cahoot | nimurphy: luckily I know no programming at all |
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| 13:19.06 | nimurphy | haha. i've just installed debian for the first time and have to install and configure postgresql, postgis and mapserver, then write an extension to postgresql |
| 13:19.19 | nimurphy | and all in two weeks. i do like a challenge though |
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| 13:19.46 | dvs | aha! |
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| 13:33.31 | Xtina` | HELP me :s |
| 13:33.52 | cydork | !ask |
| 13:33.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:34.02 | Xtina` | Grr |
| 13:34.10 | Xtina` | I speak Frensh :) |
| 13:34.14 | asg | !fr |
| 13:34.15 | dpkg | methinks fr is Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr dans irc.debian.org ou #debianfr dans irc.freenode.net, please join #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or #debianfr on irc.freenode.net |
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| 13:34.29 | Xtina` | Merci :) |
| 13:35.34 | nimurphy | Xtina: Je parle francais. |
| 13:35.46 | dvs | nimurphy: pas ici |
| 13:36.03 | Xtina` | aaa :) |
| 13:36.26 | nimurphy | dvs: Mais j'aime bien parler la francais. But you're probably right. |
| 13:36.47 | nimurphy | i'm also not very good at is |
| 13:36.48 | nimurphy | t |
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| 13:43.51 | qwertz | Hi, are there any linux mp3/audio players that are controllable by web interface (next/prev song, play, pause, volume up and down)? |
| 13:45.52 | abrotman | mpd |
| 13:46.24 | abrotman | farous: mine shut down already .. and i was copying my $HOME to it |
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| 13:51.44 | farous | abrotman: no mine never shut down |
| 13:52.04 | abrotman | farous: hrm ... |
| 13:52.06 | farous | abrotman: i found an sdparm tool. do not know if it will work still reading |
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| 13:53.30 | qwertz | abrotman, thanks will have a look |
| 13:53.44 | BusMaster | i have a sony handycam and a USB cable for connecting it to my computer. How can I get the videos inside the miniDV tape using linux? |
| 13:54.03 | dvs | BusMaster: USB cables are usually for still pictures |
| 13:54.08 | BusMaster | i tried kino, but it appraently works only with ieee1394 |
| 13:54.24 | BusMaster | dvs: but the manual says I should be able to capture video using the usb cable |
| 13:54.34 | abrotman | farous: there's a thing with hdparm to set powersaving |
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| 13:56.41 | abrotman | more than one anyways |
| 13:56.59 | farous | hdparm -S |
| 13:57.12 | farous | will have too look closely at it though reading it now |
| 13:57.27 | abrotman | farous: you sure you're not mounting it sync ? |
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| 13:58.53 | farous | i just umounted it for it was getting really hot again |
| 13:58.59 | farous | will test it later |
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| 13:59.13 | farous | thanx abrotman for all your help :) |
| 14:02.23 | Troka | A Hacker roots MySpace : http://tinyurl.com/ef35u LoLoL ^-^ |
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| 14:03.40 | sk4nK | I've run through the aboutdebian webcam installation procedure, but i'm still getting "Failed to open video device /dev/video0: No such device" when i run `motion`, /dev/video0 does exist and dmesg shows "drivers/usb/media/ov511.c: v1.64 for Linux 2.5 : ov511 USB Camera Driver". I don't know what else could be wrong. has anyone got any ideas? |
| 14:03.53 | abrotman | Troka: wrong channel |
| 14:04.09 | abrotman | sk4nK: what are the perms on /dev/video0 |
| 14:04.33 | sk4nK | crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 81, 0 2005-02-26 16:43 /dev/video0 |
| 14:04.34 | abrotman | ls -l |
| 14:05.25 | abrotman | well .. something is confused :) |
| 14:06.23 | sk4nK | I know, I seem to get closer and closer, then nothing. arg. |
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| 14:12.18 | realist | sk4nK: is the application accessing the device also a member of the 'video' group? |
| 14:12.42 | realist | I mean, user running the application |
| 14:13.07 | sk4nK | realist: i'm running it as root at the moment, trying to get anything working at this point |
| 14:13.29 | PN-krod | Is there any other file that displays on login besides the motd? |
| 14:13.47 | sk4nK | it's permission 666 anyway |
| 14:13.49 | realist | PN-krod: that would depend. |
| 14:13.52 | PN-krod | I'm sure there is, because I edited and can't remember what it was.. |
| 14:13.58 | abrotman | realist: it's 666 |
| 14:14.01 | PN-krod | And there is something I need to remove in it. |
| 14:14.10 | PN-krod | realist, depends on what? |
| 14:14.13 | abrotman | PN-krod: /etc/issue |
| 14:14.33 | PN-krod | abrotman, No..it wasn't that |
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| 14:14.44 | realist | PN-krod: you could be displaying fortune cookies too? |
| 14:14.44 | abrotman | the ssh banner ? |
| 14:14.47 | PN-krod | I belive it runs all of the universal login scripts as well |
| 14:14.58 | PN-krod | No, not the ssh banner |
| 14:15.20 | realist | Any output from scripts you launch from .login too |
| 14:15.45 | PN-krod | Its kinda like a universal .login.. |
| 14:15.48 | PN-krod | that displays for all users |
| 14:16.06 | PN-krod | and it displays just after the /etc/motd |
| 14:17.08 | PN-krod | No ideas? :( |
| 14:17.27 | realist | Could be in /etc/login.defs? |
| 14:18.12 | PN-krod | No..its not in there.. |
| 14:19.32 | PN-krod | What command could I use to search though every file in /etc for a term? |
| 14:19.43 | realist | man grep |
| 14:19.49 | PN-krod | Or rather, what series of commands |
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| 14:20.06 | pipeline | the grep man page will be of assistance |
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| 14:20.39 | PN-krod | Wouldn't I have to write a small script that loops though every file, using grep to search each file? |
| 14:20.45 | PN-krod | brb |
| 14:21.23 | Tallu | PN-krod: use search to search through the files and the -e to exec grep on the files.. for example |
| 14:21.28 | realist | No, you wouldn't. |
| 14:22.21 | realist | Tallu: grep has a recursive switch. |
| 14:23.32 | PN-krod | Well, I just cooked up a small script that did the job |
| 14:24.02 | PN-krod | it just loops though the files... cat FILE | grep TERM |
| 14:24.38 | PN-krod | But...it only found the term in motd |
| 14:25.04 | wols | yay! you're a contestant to the useless cat award |
| 14:25.07 | wols | congrats! |
| 14:25.48 | wols | *useless use of |
| 14:26.01 | realist | PN-krod: `grep -R` would've sufficed. |
| 14:26.23 | realist | wols: "useless cat" was more humourous ;-) |
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| 14:33.04 | dafresh | hi all, is there a way to get initrd and kernel boot messages ? |
| 14:33.28 | wols | dmesg |
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| 14:34.49 | dafresh | wols, ok but is dmesg show the initrd messages ? |
| 14:34.59 | dafresh | wols, i think it dont do that |
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| 14:42.17 | dafresh | wols, correct me is i am wrong ... |
| 14:42.24 | dafresh | s/is/if |
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| 14:52.54 | smarcow | when i run dpkg-buildpackage in the sdk it makes a i386 binary, how do i get a arm? |
| 14:53.01 | smarcow | oops sorry wrong channel |
| 14:53.31 | koffein | hi everybody. I've got a question about network booting... I am trying to build a diskless debian box with root on NFS. I've gotten as far as booting the debian installer via PXE, but all the tutorials on root via NFS seem to be outdated. What is the easiest way to do it? |
| 14:53.41 | dabreegster | streuner: Nightwish is an amazing band |
| 14:53.44 | koffein | any ideas? |
| 14:54.03 | abrotman | streuner: turn it off! |
| 14:54.05 | streuner | dabreegster: true, i sadly found that out serveral days ago... |
| 14:54.20 | streuner | abrotman: i don't use scripts! :-) |
| 14:54.29 | abrotman | we don't care! |
| 14:54.32 | dabreegster | streuner: I can't believe the group kicked Tarja (sp) out |
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| 14:54.51 | dabreegster | streuner: I couldn't even begin to list my favorites! |
| 14:55.06 | streuner | dabreegster: really bad, its *HARD* to find sopran in the world... |
| 14:55.33 | koffein | does anyone know anything about netbooting? |
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| 14:55.52 | koffein | to be less specific |
| 14:56.08 | abrotman | it uses data packets! |
| 14:56.26 | koffein | that's a start.. |
| 14:56.32 | abrotman | koffein: there's nothing in the install guide ? |
| 14:56.38 | streuner | dabreegster: what's your favorite song? |
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| 14:57.35 | Evan__ | wich kernel is best for a pentium1 |
| 14:57.40 | Evan__ | ? |
| 14:57.45 | tarzeau | Evan__: p5 one? |
| 14:57.47 | tarzeau | or 586 |
| 14:57.47 | koffein | abrotman, what you can find in the guides just tells you how to boot the installer. I did that.. but that's not installing on NFS |
| 14:57.51 | dabreegster | streuner: Gah. Um. Nemo, End of All Hope, Ever Dream (strong emotions attached to this one), Pharaoh sails to Orion, Ghost Love Score.... |
| 14:57.52 | streuner | !i586 |
| 14:57.56 | streuner | !586 |
| 14:57.59 | tarzeau | err p1 |
| 14:58.19 | streuner | dabreegster: nah, from Nightwish |
| 14:58.24 | dabreegster | streuner: But Creek Mary's Blood is so good too. I can't have _a_ favorite. |
| 14:58.39 | dabreegster | streuner: Those are from Nightwish. Be back in a minute, also. |
| 14:58.42 | Evan__ | tarzeau a pentium 1 |
| 14:58.56 | abrotman | koffein: oh .. you want to know how to get the stuff on the NFS server ? |
| 14:58.58 | tarzeau | Evan__: yes that's a 586 one |
| 14:58.59 | streuner | dabreegster: oh :-) |
| 14:59.07 | Evan__ | ohh thanx! |
| 14:59.19 | PumpkinPie | I edited configuration files in conf.d.. now what? |
| 14:59.44 | PumpkinPie | I edited configuration files in /etc/exim4/conf.d/ now what? |
| 14:59.45 | koffein | abrotman, no, that's not the problem... |
| 15:00.09 | Evan__ | tarzeau i already tries 386 and 686 none of them worked! |
| 15:00.19 | tarzeau | Evan__: 386 should've worked |
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| 15:00.32 | tarzeau | Evan__: what exactly didn't worked? |
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| 15:00.37 | streuner | Evan: are you sure you are using a Pentium? :-) |
| 15:00.54 | tarzeau | streuner: 386 should work on everything |
| 15:00.59 | Evan__ | tarzeau 386 stopped at the startup at savedefautlboot |
| 15:01.09 | tarzeau | Evan__: which msg exactly? |
| 15:01.13 | Evan__ | none |
| 15:01.15 | streuner | tarzeau: hm, on ppc or arm or sparc too? ;-) |
| 15:01.16 | tarzeau | Evan__: your own kernel or debian one? |
| 15:01.22 | tarzeau | Evan__: the last msg, black screen? |
| 15:01.24 | Evan__ | debian one |
| 15:01.28 | tarzeau | streuner: he doesn't have that |
| 15:01.38 | tarzeau | streuner: i mean amd, cyrix and all the shit, you know it exactly |
| 15:01.39 | Evan__ | tarzeau dont knwo anymore |
| 15:01.54 | tarzeau | streuner: and you just said so because i can't hit you with a full plastic water bottle for it |
| 15:02.02 | tarzeau | Evan__: look it up |
| 15:02.39 | Evan__ | well it is installign a niewe debian base system at the moment |
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| 15:04.34 | Evan__ | tarzeau i rememeber the cntrl alt f3 screen didnt work |
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| 15:07.06 | abrotman | koffein: i think you're gonig to have to be more descriptive |
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| 15:07.49 | abrotman | !tell chris_abyi about root |
| 15:08.01 | streuner | damn, your are fast today :-) |
| 15:08.19 | abrotman | you are or you're .. jeez |
| 15:08.22 | abrotman | silly german :) |
| 15:08.40 | p3rti | does the firefox 1.5.0.6 has a bug about segment violation? |
| 15:08.52 | streuner | check out BTS |
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| 15:09.13 | abrotman | seg fault? |
| 15:09.36 | streuner | if you don't find something in BTS check your RAM |
| 15:10.53 | p3rti | abrotman, sometime like that.. |
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| 15:14.18 | Netcad | Anyone know how to do commandline s/mime ? |
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| 15:16.58 | koffein | abrotman, I have a diskless machine.. it can automatically get the kernel from the network and boot it... BUT the thing needs to have a filesystem root somewhere, preferably on my NFS server. Now there a a thousand tutorials, but most refer to obsolete packets etc. and I am just confused |
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| 15:17.24 | abrotman | i go that much :) |
| 15:17.45 | koffein | I was hoping someone here could have a bit experience with it |
| 15:18.20 | abrotman | well .. you can ask us question by question .. different people might know different things |
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| 15:20.42 | k31th | when a msg "bounces" is that people trying to send spam thru my server ? |
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| 15:21.20 | cydork | koffein, i did do it with woody with diskless package, and did compile a kernel which could boot over nfs. |
| 15:21.43 | koffein | cydork, ok, that's great |
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| 15:23.20 | is_null | hello i keep getting messages from localhost in my consoles, this is etremely annoying, any ideas ? |
| 15:23.32 | koffein | cydork, I could use woody for the machine... but I'm running testing/unstable here |
| 15:23.36 | tarzeau | is_null: what do they say? |
| 15:23.43 | tarzeau | is_null: check your syslog.conf in /etc ? |
| 15:23.59 | is_null | Message from syslogd@localhost at Sun Aug 13 16:25:56 2006 ... |
| 15:23.59 | is_null | localhost kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold |
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| 15:24.13 | cydork | koffein, http://www.wlug.org.nz/NFSRoot try that for woody, but it's possible on testing too but i dont know about any tutorial for that. |
| 15:24.14 | is_null | they arrive by six exery minutes ... |
| 15:24.47 | koffein | cydork, thanks |
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| 15:26.14 | nacktakk | hi |
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| 15:26.25 | nacktakk | I would like too |
| 15:27.31 | nacktakk | do I need dbus in order to use rox? |
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| 15:30.01 | pipeline | nacktakk: I don't think so... |
| 15:30.22 | Tuttle_ | hi, how to most easily restrict the users to see the processes of others? is there a debian way? |
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| 15:39.11 | koffein | cydork, ok.. I was stupid. I forgot I could just install the stable images on testing... I think it will work that way |
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| 15:39.34 | Terrified | Hi ... I have a problem with a debian based rescue console on a strato webserver ... how can I get a list of which hdds are in a system and which partitions I can mount? fstab is pretty useless, and I have no Idea where my system actually is. |
| 15:39.34 | koffein | cydork, *stable packages |
| 15:40.37 | abrotman | Terrified: fdisk -l ? |
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| 15:41.14 | Terrified | abrotman: gives no output, just a prompt |
| 15:41.25 | abrotman | as root? |
| 15:41.29 | abrotman | give the drive like /dev/hda |
| 15:41.30 | Terrified | abrotman: yes |
| 15:41.37 | abrotman | dmesg | grep hd |
| 15:41.49 | abrotman | or sd if it's scsi/sata |
| 15:42.30 | Terrified | abrotman: neither gives something hdd-related. |
| 15:42.38 | abrotman | uh |
| 15:42.58 | abrotman | hda: HITACHI_DK23EA-40B, ATA DISK drive |
| 15:42.58 | abrotman | hdc: UJDA740 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 15:43.00 | abrotman | nothing like that ? |
| 15:43.03 | Terrified | nope |
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| 15:43.23 | Terrified | abrotman: again, this is a rescue system, whatever this means. |
| 15:44.23 | PumpkinPie | which is a single file? maildir or mailbox |
| 15:44.36 | pipeline | PumpkinPie: mailbox aka mbox. |
| 15:45.09 | abrotman | mbox sucks |
| 15:45.11 | abrotman | bad |
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| 15:45.29 | PumpkinPie | I dont see the need for anything other then a maildir |
| 15:45.36 | PumpkinPie | what are mbox advantages? |
| 15:45.46 | abrotman | cyrus has a maildir like structure |
| 15:45.55 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: wicked easy to backup/move |
| 15:46.10 | abrotman | Terrified: maybe you need to load some modules |
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| 15:47.24 | PumpkinPie | I said all of that backwards |
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| 15:47.33 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: also .. mbox uses one inode .. maildir can use thousands |
| 15:47.42 | PumpkinPie | mbox is a single file? |
| 15:48.02 | jelly-home | PumpkinPie: yes. |
| 15:48.16 | PumpkinPie | ok ill rephrase |
| 15:48.24 | PumpkinPie | I dont see the need for anything other then mbox |
| 15:48.41 | Terrified | abrotman: what module could that be? |
| 15:49.02 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: try to delete a message from the middle of a box that has 1000+ messages and you will |
| 15:49.23 | jelly-home | PumpkinPie: need to parse the whole file every time on opening, incremental backups always take the whole (sometimes huge) folder |
| 15:49.24 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: try loading an Inbox that has a few thousand over the network .. and you will |
| 15:49.39 | PumpkinPie | thats right |
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| 15:50.48 | abrotman | mbox is nice for text processing .. like grep "whatshername" sent-mail |
| 15:51.01 | abrotman | though with courier .. you can just do on the whole dir |
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| 15:51.23 | abrotman | erm .. with maildir |
| 15:51.35 | jelly-home | abrotman: whatever, grep whatshername sent-mail/{cur,new,tmp}/* |
| 15:51.44 | PumpkinPie | yeah im using mbox right now and im not even going to run pop3 or imap.. temporarily Ive just decided to read the file |
| 15:51.51 | abrotman | jelly-home: yeah .. i know |
| 15:51.54 | ion | I'd instaled debian but I can't but to finish the instalation process |
| 15:52.03 | abrotman | jelly-home: i corrected myself :) |
| 15:52.27 | ion | any ideas what's going on |
| 15:52.42 | abrotman | might need a few more details there |
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| 15:53.51 | ion | I'd removed the boot cd but I can't carry on through the net |
| 15:54.12 | zebalin4 | Is there a newer version of Adobe reader than 7.8.0.0-0 (Marillat). I have doc that prints in kpdf but not adobe 7.0. Strange. |
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| 15:54.59 | zebalin4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.18 | ion | I'd tryed to cds but the something thing happen again and again |
| 15:55.22 | ion | so .... |
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| 15:57.21 | ion | ? |
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| 16:00.30 | nacktakk | I thought less was able to read websites as well |
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| 16:00.42 | nacktakk | In Gentoo it can read websites |
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| 16:05.10 | a1fa|64 | anybody know how to wget into fifo output? mkfifo test && wget -O test url fails with broken pipe |
| 16:05.29 | glontu | how do i build the kernel image and the modules with make-kpkg ? |
| 16:05.50 | cydork | !tell glontu about kernel package |
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| 16:06.08 | cydork | glontu, check the kp mantra too |
| 16:06.10 | wols | make-kpkg --targets |
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| 16:09.11 | nacktakk | I've got this problem, I've been searching for qingy package all over for debian but there isn't any. |
| 16:09.56 | nacktakk | now the website says that the package is "Platform-Independent Source .bz2" |
| 16:10.18 | nacktakk | how do I install such a package? make && make install ? |
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| 16:11.42 | nacktakk | how do I untar a tar.bz2 ? |
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| 16:12.38 | abrotman | man tar |
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| 16:12.51 | abrotman | nacktakk: are you using debian ? |
| 16:13.01 | abrotman | !es |
| 16:13.02 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:13.23 | nacktakk | abrotman: yes I am using Debian |
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| 16:13.59 | nacktakk | wait can apt-get install tar.bz2 pacakges?ç |
| 16:14.19 | wols | no |
| 16:14.25 | glontu | !tell glontu kp mantra |
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| 16:14.30 | wols | in fact apt can't install any packages. dpkg can |
| 16:14.54 | glontu | how do i make the bot explain about "kp mantra" ? |
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| 16:15.17 | wols | you can do it in a query. no need for the channel |
| 16:15.32 | glontu | oh |
| 16:15.36 | wols | !tell glontu about kp mantra |
| 16:15.45 | glontu | thanks |
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| 16:16.03 | nacktakk | so I need to use dpkg in order to isntall tar.bz2? I mean I wanna use whatever is official in Debian |
| 16:17.31 | nacktakk | DirectFB is libdirectfb in debian? |
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| 16:18.34 | abrotman | nacktakk: what are you compiling ? |
| 16:19.14 | nacktakk | abrotman: qingy, which is "platform independent"... whatever that means |
| 16:19.21 | nacktakk | I gather I can install it on ppc |
| 16:19.22 | abrotman | wtf is qingy? |
| 16:19.28 | nacktakk | this is qingy |
| 16:19.32 | abrotman | !find qingy sid |
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| 16:19.51 | nacktakk | http://qingy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:19.59 | nacktakk | I have testing |
| 16:20.34 | nacktakk | believe that's nowhere to be found in debina repositories, not even the scattered ones |
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| 16:22.13 | abrotman | nacktakk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=236706 |
| 16:23.22 | nacktakk | Bug reassigned from package `qingy' to `wnpp'. Request was from Göran Weinholt <weinholt@debian.org> to |
| 16:23.43 | nacktakk | what's that mean? That in Debian is called WNPP? |
| 16:23.57 | nacktakk | so I should look it up by the name of wnpp |
| 16:24.08 | abrotman | nacktakk: it's been packaged .. but not put int he repository yet |
| 16:24.10 | abrotman | !wnpp |
| 16:24.10 | dpkg | well, wnpp is Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list, at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/, or if you miss a package in debian, use the WNPP to request it. |
| 16:24.58 | nacktakk | but I can install it like this apt-get wnpp.deb right? |
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| 16:25.30 | abrotman | not quite |
| 16:26.46 | Netcad | A Wireless card question. If using lspci I see "02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)" - Does it mean it was Installed or just Detected ??? (I dont see it in ifconfig) |
| 16:27.58 | DocOC | Netcad: it just means that it's attached to your pci bridge. You have an Atheros card, which means you need madwifi to make it work. |
| 16:28.07 | DocOC | !madwifi |
| 16:28.08 | dpkg | it has been said that madwifi is for ATHEROS chipset wireless devices more information can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian, or type "/join #madwifi" in your client now, or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (woody/sarge only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' see also madwifi.one.liner |
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| 16:30.43 | abrotman | argh .. |
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| 16:39.45 | foo | How can I see link status? I forgot the command. hm |
| 16:39.55 | abrotman | ethtool? |
| 16:39.58 | abrotman | miitool ? |
| 16:40.01 | koffein_ | wavemon? |
| 16:40.05 | foo | ethtool |
| 16:40.07 | foo | bah, thanks |
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| 16:41.56 | koffein_ | abrotman, if a tutorial tells me, the kernel needs CONFIG_NET=y and similar stuff... where do I put that option? |
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| 16:42.14 | wols | you run make menuconfig |
| 16:42.21 | abrotman | should already bethere |
| 16:42.23 | koffein_ | I know... |
| 16:42.32 | SerGiOO | i have named running on my debian , and dig @ip google.com is working but when i want to ping www.googel.com its says UNKNOWN HOST |
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| 16:42.47 | wols | googel != google |
| 16:42.58 | SerGiOO | google its typo |
| 16:43.02 | SerGiOO | :) |
| 16:43.03 | abrotman | just making sure :) |
| 16:43.06 | wols | what is @ip, which host? |
| 16:43.08 | koffein_ | It's not about that specific option, but a list of those |
| 16:43.13 | SerGiOO | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.13 | SerGiOO | ping: unknown host www.google.com |
| 16:43.16 | abrotman | though .. guess where googel.com goes :) |
| 16:43.24 | wols | koffein_: .config file. but you shouldn't edit it |
| 16:43.35 | koffein_ | wols, why not? |
| 16:43.35 | SerGiOO | dig @192.168.2.1 www.google.com |
| 16:43.37 | SerGiOO | is working |
| 16:43.45 | SerGiOO | ;; Query time: 101 msec |
| 16:43.45 | SerGiOO | ;; SERVER: 192.168.200.2#53(192.168.200.2) |
| 16:43.46 | SerGiOO | ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 13 18:42:46 2006 |
| 16:43.46 | SerGiOO | ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 212 |
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| 16:43.51 | wols | idiot |
| 16:43.52 | SerGiOO | sorry :) |
| 16:44.01 | wols | what happens with "dig google.com"? |
| 16:44.13 | wols | and what is in your resolv.conf |
| 16:44.28 | SerGiOO | in resolv is , 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:44.31 | wols | and third, do you really need bind as a caching DNS proxy? hint: it's overkill for a proxy |
| 16:44.33 | SerGiOO | and dig google.com |
| 16:44.33 | SerGiOO | ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) |
| 16:44.39 | Tuttle_ | hi, how to most easily restrict the users to see the processes of others? is there a debian way? |
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| 16:44.45 | abrotman | i'm surprised google hsan't started running apublic DNS server so they can cache those too |
| 16:44.59 | foo | er, how can I display all status of eth0, eth1, and eth2 at the same time? |
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| 16:45.05 | abrotman | ifconfig -a ? |
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| 16:45.15 | wols | why would they cache it? every DNS server on the planet does it for them |
| 16:45.43 | SerGiOO | how can i config my resolv.conf? |
| 16:45.50 | SerGiOO | i have one line 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:45.50 | chris_173 | hi.. I got a problem with the ALSA driver.. Im currently using kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp.. and already installed alsa-oss alsa-base and alsa-conf. When shutting down the pc, it halts when the alsa driver should stop. In addition, there's no sound output. any clue? |
| 16:45.57 | wols | man resolv.conf |
| 16:45.58 | koffein_ | wols, what is the better way to set thouse options? |
| 16:46.03 | foo | abrotman: with ethtool. I used to be able to see this and be able to tell which one had a cable plugged in and which one didn't. hmm |
| 16:46.10 | wols | koffein_: make menuconfig, make xfconfig, make config |
| 16:46.30 | abrotman | foo: oh .. |
| 16:46.37 | SerGiOO | wols any ideas? |
| 16:46.44 | wols | SerGiOO: man resolv.conf |
| 16:46.57 | wols | it's set up wrong |
| 16:46.59 | SerGiOO | must i restart dns when i reconfig resol.conf |
| 16:47.00 | SerGiOO | ? |
| 16:47.05 | wols | no |
| 16:47.21 | koffein_ | wols, I know, but it's hard to find things link CONFIG_IP_PNP in the menus... |
| 16:47.31 | SerGiOO | i add to resolv.conf my locl ip but same shit |
| 16:47.40 | DocOC | SerGiOO: do you actually have a reason to run BIND? |
| 16:47.47 | kingsley | Which command lists daemons and the ports that they're listening to? |
| 16:47.58 | SerGiOO | yes :) |
| 16:48.00 | wols | kingsley: netstat -anp |grep LIST |
| 16:48.07 | wols | SerGiOO: mind telling us the reason? |
| 16:48.10 | SerGiOO | now i cnt update deb beacuse he couldnot find hosts |
| 16:48.41 | SerGiOO | dig is working |
| 16:48.49 | kingsley | wols: Thank you. |
| 16:48.52 | wols | no it is not. and you still haven't read the manpage |
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| 16:49.05 | DocOC | SerGiOO: how can you expect to run bind correctly if you don't even know how the resolver works? |
| 16:49.14 | SerGiOO | i know ;/ |
| 16:49.24 | SerGiOO | but on my second server everything is ok |
| 16:49.31 | wols | DocOC: he will bug us until someone solves his problem for him. classic begging until spoonfed |
| 16:50.16 | SerGiOO | first server use dns from second and its working , but on second dont i cant ping google |
| 16:50.39 | wols | SerGiOO: why do you need to run bind? |
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| 16:51.13 | Myrizio | hi, are Creative Commons accepted for debian packages? |
| 16:51.35 | Myrizio | i mean is some? :) |
| 16:51.43 | wols | Myrizio: there are many different CC licenses. some of them are DFSG compatible, some aren't |
| 16:51.49 | SerGiOO | wols i menage it tnx |
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| 16:51.59 | SerGiOO | i erase line nameserer 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:51.59 | SerGiOO | ;) |
| 16:52.03 | SerGiOO | and its working tnx |
| 16:52.03 | Myrizio | wols: is there a list of them? |
| 16:52.29 | wols | !dfsg |
| 16:52.30 | dpkg | i guess dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 16:52.33 | DocOC | good god, I really hope there are no serious bind exploits soon. |
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| 16:52.54 | wols | DocOC: if bind won't get him in trouble, something else will. no worries |
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| 17:01.29 | seb- | my wifi card does dhcp with first signal it gets......HOW detect all SSIDs out there so I can PICK one instead? |
| 17:02.03 | biz | i'm searching for a fast and usable organizer for big mp3 and ogg vorbis collections, perhaps using an own server side app to share the music from a central server and use it on the remote side. perhaps with a sql backed database or sth. anyone has an idea? |
| 17:03.30 | seb- | biz: write on with turbogears? |
| 17:03.48 | enouf | foo : ping |
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| 17:04.09 | foo | enouf: hey |
| 17:04.27 | enouf | foo: hey -- one sec :) |
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| 17:06.00 | enouf | foo: try 'lshw' it shows my one active eth0 connection |
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| 17:06.18 | DocOC | seb-: honestly, I've never tried, but I assume calling iwconfig from within /etc/network/interfaces using the 'preup' directive would allow you to do what you want. |
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| 17:07.00 | enouf | foo: with the IP, type of connection, and much more info about it (MAC, etc) |
| 17:07.26 | DocOC | seb-: man interfaces, man iwconfig (probably want to look at the 'ap' option) |
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| 17:07.35 | foo | enouf: ah, thanks |
| 17:07.46 | enouf | foo: yes indeed :-) |
| 17:08.10 | jon_ | i build the fglrx module according to "/msg dpkg fglrx" but when i try to modprobge the module i get the following in /var/log/syslog: "Aug 13 19:00:17 localhost kernel: fglrx: version magic '2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 gcc-3.4'". i have used CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before every issued command. what can i do? thanks |
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| 17:09.42 | phatmonkey | i have a custom 2.4.30 kernel on etch, and i am trying to compile some kernel modules. they fail with various cryptic compile errors. i have a feeling it is because the standard linux-kernel-headers package is installed, but i dare not remove it because of all the dependancies. how can I compile kernel modules for a custom kernel? |
| 17:09.49 | wols | symlink the /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-3.3 |
| 17:10.22 | abrotman | phatmonkey: you could have built a kernel-headers package when you built your kernel |
| 17:10.22 | wols | phatmonkey: install headers for your kernel |
| 17:10.27 | enouf | foo : ping (this time say pong :-)) |
| 17:10.36 | jon_ | wols, thank you |
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| 17:11.24 | jon_ | wols, you mean to gcc-3.4? |
| 17:11.32 | enouf | wols : as long as it's a female cop :-p |
| 17:11.54 | wols | jon_: whatever your kernel needs/wants |
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| 17:11.58 | jon_ | wols, ok |
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| 17:12.17 | wols | enouf: sure. a 300 pounds, lesbian "butch" cop |
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| 17:12.45 | enouf | wols: ahhh ... I'm in <3 now |
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| 17:13.16 | wols | I didn't say domina. I said butch |
| 17:13.57 | enouf | nothing wrong with that "lifestyle" - just not on my team is all :-p |
| 17:14.17 | jon_ | wols, now this is wierd, i did what you said and i still get the same error |
| 17:14.32 | foo | enouf: pong |
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| 17:14.40 | enouf | jon_ what - you go arrestd by a cop ?? |
| 17:14.48 | enouf | foo: :-) |
| 17:14.52 | wols | then due to the miracles of make, didn't compile your module again |
| 17:14.58 | jon_ | enouf, hehe :) |
| 17:15.21 | phatmonkey | wols, abrotman, thanks. i see how to make my headers package now |
| 17:15.33 | enouf | foo Check this out = got another one for ya if using udev, hal , dbus 'lshal | grep net' |
| 17:15.44 | abrotman | phatmonkey: make-kpkg binary .. makes them all |
| 17:15.49 | foo | enouf: hehe, thanks :) I got it |
| 17:15.50 | enouf | jon_: hehe |
| 17:16.03 | wols | abrotman: that's a bin excessive |
| 17:16.10 | jon_ | seriously though... something is wrong with ati's isntalled or something. the module cannot be loaded and the gcc symlink points to the right place, i don't know what else to change |
| 17:16.11 | wols | binary-arch is the best |
| 17:16.17 | abrotman | wols: better to make them all then be fucked later |
| 17:16.30 | cahoot | jon_: you did make clean? |
| 17:16.34 | wols | you rarely need kernel source or doc. at least I never did |
| 17:16.39 | abrotman | you never know |
| 17:17.01 | jon_ | cahoot, no, i followed the instructions in "/msg dpkg fglrx" |
| 17:17.17 | cahoot | jon_: make clean an restart then |
| 17:17.22 | cahoot | and |
| 17:17.28 | jon_ | cahoot, in what directory? |
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| 17:17.48 | abrotman | hahah |
| 17:17.54 | abrotman | that was great |
| 17:18.04 | kingsley | How does one clear a print job from /var/spool/lpd/? |
| 17:18.10 | abrotman | rm ? |
| 17:18.14 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 17:18.29 | cahoot | jon_: the point I'm trying make is that you might not have recompiled afterchanging the gcc symlink if you didn't make clean |
| 17:18.30 | abrotman | asg: what do you think about the one above that? .. in cahoots? |
| 17:18.44 | ^osh^ | is there a tool to help setup X in something greater than 800x600 or do I manually hack XFree86? |
| 17:18.46 | asg | abrotman: maybe, hard to say |
| 17:18.53 | jon_ | cahoot, oh, i removed the deb files from the instructions, so it's not that |
| 17:18.56 | abrotman | !drxx ^osh^ |
| 17:18.57 | dpkg | ^osh^: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:19.17 | ^osh^ | abrotman, thankyou. =) |
| 17:19.29 | abrotman | asg: i'm still skeptical |
| 17:20.19 | seb- | DocOS: thanks |
| 17:21.09 | asg | abrotman: guess we'll have to wait and see |
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| 17:23.46 | abrotman | asg: not me! |
| 17:23.55 | asg | hehe |
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| 17:24.52 | asg | sit ubu sit! good dog |
| 17:24.56 | blondie | o.o |
| 17:27.24 | phatmonkey | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3422 - what's the problem? i might try downloading the sources again and patching from scratch |
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| 17:32.21 | amortvigil | hehelp i use xfree86 how can i start it? |
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| 17:32.34 | nix | startx |
| 17:32.38 | asg | abrotman: install xbase-clients ; type 'startx' |
| 17:32.48 | abrotman | i'm not really here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:33.02 | asg | abrotman: yes, you are. I can sense it |
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| 17:33.10 | asg | s/abrotman/amortvigil/ |
| 17:33.30 | Netcad | Now that I have both ath0 and wifi0 in my ifconfig output, everything should just 'work' when I'm in the reach of a Wifi router ? |
| 17:34.10 | infernix | nope. you need to config it. unless its an open hotspot; iwlist ath0 scan should suffiec in that case |
| 17:34.32 | amortvigil | lol terminal irc i cool! |
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| 17:35.45 | amortvigil | maybe i should discover a terminal paint program |
| 17:36.02 | infernix | apt-cache seach thedraw |
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| 17:36.26 | infernix | not sure if thats in debian tho |
| 17:36.33 | amortvigil | cool! |
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| 17:39.35 | MidgetKiller | i'm having problems installing debian sarge |
| 17:40.34 | MidgetKiller | i think its to do with my sata drive |
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| 17:41.13 | blondie | MidgetKiller: probably |
| 17:41.24 | blondie | the sarge kernels suck for sata |
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| 17:41.42 | infernix | !make-kpkg |
| 17:41.43 | dpkg_ | methinks make-kpkg is the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra> |
| 17:41.54 | MidgetKiller | i keep getting fsck.ext3: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/sda1 |
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| 17:42.50 | MidgetKiller | fsck failed. Please repair manually |
| 17:42.59 | infernix | MidgetKiller: explain in greater detail what you were doing. |
| 17:43.00 | infernix | !ask |
| 17:43.01 | dpkg_ | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:43.26 | ^osh^ | !deb |
| 17:43.26 | dpkg_ | from memory, deb is the extension for debian precompiled packages |
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| 17:43.57 | ^osh^ | !build |
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| 17:45.43 | eimajenthat | hi, I'm having a little trouble with my Debian install I did this morning. |
| 17:46.17 | eimajenthat | I used the businesscard net install method, and it worked great, but I can't seem to acquire a network address anymore. |
| 17:46.34 | eimajenthat | I could with the previous system I had loaded on here |
| 17:46.41 | infernix | try (as root): dhclient eth0 |
| 17:46.45 | eimajenthat | and I was able to pull the packages down to install this one |
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| 17:48.20 | eimajenthat | it's doing a bunch of DHCPDISCOVERs |
| 17:48.30 | eimajenthat | no DHCPOFFERS recevied |
| 17:48.44 | eimajenthat | No working leases in persistent database. |
| 17:49.06 | infernix | you dont have a dhcp server? |
| 17:49.06 | MidgetKiller | will a 400GB sATA drive work with debian sarge? |
| 17:49.28 | eimajenthat | I do, in my router |
| 17:49.29 | infernix | MidgetKiller: all SATA drives work with debian sarge. |
| 17:49.32 | eimajenthat | and it's working |
| 17:49.33 | MidgetKiller | thanks |
| 17:49.44 | eimajenthat | it worked with this computer earlier |
| 17:49.52 | eimajenthat | and works on others now |
| 17:49.57 | fireba11 | eimajenthat: but it's obviously not answering right now |
| 17:49.59 | infernix | eimajenthat: apparently there's 1) multiple NICs in the box and eth0 isnt the one thats attached to your router, or 2) cable is unplugged |
| 17:50.21 | naga44 | y0! |
| 17:50.22 | eimajenthat | it's answering other computers |
| 17:50.25 | eimajenthat | just not this one |
| 17:50.35 | infernix | type: mii-tool |
| 17:50.45 | infernix | link ok? |
| 17:50.48 | foo | mii-tool!! |
| 17:50.49 | eimajenthat | cable is plugged in, I couble checked, not loose |
| 17:50.51 | foo | That's what I wanted |
| 17:51.00 | foo | ahhh. Bah. Too late. |
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| 17:51.05 | eimajenthat | only other NIC is a wireless card that's not set up yet |
| 17:51.12 | naga44 | after trying out different distros..i find that its still best to with the good old debian....i downloaded debian about 14 months ago...should i just use those cds or download new ones? |
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| 17:51.20 | infernix | type mii-tool. is the link ok or not? |
| 17:51.23 | eimajenthat | even has link light |
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| 17:52.49 | infernix | naga44: you could do a small install with old versions and just upgrade. |
| 17:53.07 | eimajenthat | link ok |
| 17:53.12 | eimajenthat | according to mii-tool |
| 17:53.21 | naga44 | yeah...ill install with just fluxbox and upgrade...good? |
| 17:53.41 | infernix | naga44: should be np in theory |
| 17:53.49 | naga44 | ok |
| 17:53.54 | amortvigil | oke that was ment to me isnt it? |
| 17:54.01 | eimajenthat | it's freakin' weird |
| 17:54.01 | naga44 | thank you |
| 17:54.07 | anders__ | dpkg: !! |
| 17:54.07 | dpkg_ | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
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| 17:54.15 | infernix | eimajenthat: maybe your router sucks and only replies to DCHPREQUEST |
| 17:54.20 | anders__ | nvidia one-liner |
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| 17:54.26 | anders__ | !nvidia one-liner |
| 17:54.27 | dpkg_ | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
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| 17:55.14 | infernix | eimajenthat: either way, configure a static ip and see if it works. |
| 17:55.16 | eimajenthat | infernix, I dunno. It's a netgear. Works fine with Ubuntu, Zenwalk, Mepis, Debian Etch PPC, Mas OS X, Windows, PC-BSD |
| 17:55.40 | eimajenthat | mk |
| 17:55.42 | infernix | eimajenthat: does it work with QNX? |
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| 17:56.18 | amortvigil | ive got icewm and flux box installed how can i set to automaticly start fluxbox? |
| 17:56.21 | eimajenthat | infernix, haven't tried |
| 17:56.58 | anders__ | how do i come into the Xfree86 config? |
| 17:57.22 | infernix | anders__: vi /etc/X11/xfree86.conf or xorg.conf |
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| 17:57.33 | infernix | maybe just xfree.conf. ls /etc/X11/*conf |
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| 17:58.04 | anders__ | the sources list then? |
| 17:58.10 | wwallace_ | what do i need to compile the following? |
| 17:58.14 | wwallace_ | http://paste.debian.net/10752 |
| 17:58.50 | infernix | wwallace_: try: apt-get build-dep xmms |
| 17:59.02 | anders__ | infernix: u know how to come to the sources list and add contrib non-free? |
| 17:59.05 | wwallace_ | thanks infernix |
| 17:59.12 | wwallace_ | andres |
| 17:59.22 | wwallace_ | anders__: edit |
| 17:59.27 | infernix | anders__: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "main" into "main contrib non-free" |
| 17:59.33 | wwallace_ | i do joe /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:00.12 | anders__ | !nvidia one-liner |
| 18:00.12 | dpkg_ | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
| 18:00.23 | cydork | anders__, use /msg dpkg |
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| 18:02.00 | eimajenthat | infernix, never made a static IP before. I used the Network Settings dialog under Desktop in Gnome. It activated, no trouble. I set up address reservation for that mac IP combination in my router. All seemed kosher, but when I ping the router, I get "destination host unreachable" |
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| 18:05.48 | amortvigil | help i installes xfree86 xbase-clients ,icewm and flux box buth i stell keep having a black screen |
| 18:06.00 | amortvigil | if i do startx |
| 18:06.02 | wols | install x-window-system |
| 18:06.08 | wols | !drxx |
| 18:06.09 | dpkg_ | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 18:06.14 | wols | and do this until it works |
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| 18:07.03 | cabaire | !nvidia sarge |
| 18:07.38 | amortvigil | what is faster fluxvox or icewm? |
| 18:07.47 | amortvigil | if got an old machine |
| 18:07.50 | k31th | if i installed some thing by source wats the easy'st way to remove it ? |
| 18:08.02 | k31th | make clean in the source dir ? |
| 18:08.03 | infernix | make uninstall |
| 18:08.08 | k31th | ok |
| 18:08.23 | infernix | if that doesnt work, you have to do it yourself[tm] |
| 18:08.41 | amortvigil | whats us the fastest and smallest window manager? |
| 18:08.54 | MidgetKiller | question... i just installed sarge... but on boot now after its install it freezes at "tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX." |
| 18:08.57 | eimajenthat | I'm getting all these crazy errors about FIFO diagnostic register 0000 |
| 18:08.59 | eimajenthat | what's that? |
| 18:09.02 | wols | !tell cabaire about nvidia |
| 18:09.04 | MidgetKiller | i just see a blinking cursor, but no prompt |
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| 18:09.41 | anders__ | how do i install java? |
| 18:09.46 | wols | amortvigil: ratpoison perhaps |
| 18:09.55 | wols | anders__: sarge? |
| 18:10.08 | anapivirtua_ | Reboot. |
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| 18:10.38 | anders__ | wols: , can u help me? |
| 18:10.54 | anders__ | i want to install sun java |
| 18:11.03 | wols | what kind of debian are you running? |
| 18:11.04 | infernix | anders__: apt-get install java-package |
| 18:11.14 | anders__ | wols: debian webinstall |
| 18:11.15 | anders__ | newest |
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| 18:11.29 | wols | sarge or etch? |
| 18:11.34 | anders__ | sarge |
| 18:11.34 | anders__ | i think |
| 18:11.40 | anders__ | kinda new of this |
| 18:11.40 | anders__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.42 | infernix | anders__: then download the sun jdk, and (as a normal user) do: fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/sun.java.installer.bin |
| 18:11.50 | anders__ | then? |
| 18:11.53 | DocOC | !tell anders about java |
| 18:11.55 | anders__ | can u guide me thrue it all? :P |
| 18:12.01 | anders__ | i have read that damn stupid guide |
| 18:12.02 | anders__ | ;@ |
| 18:12.05 | infernix | anders__: i just did. scroll up. |
| 18:12.09 | wols | anders__: no we can't. which guide? |
| 18:12.11 | anders__ | will it work after? |
| 18:12.22 | anders__ | fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/sun.java.installer.bin |
| 18:12.27 | anders__ | fakeroot: command not foudn? |
| 18:12.31 | anders__ | found.. |
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| 18:12.34 | infernix | apt-get install fakeroot |
| 18:12.36 | wols | infernix: you didn't do anything. where to get make-jpkg for example |
| 18:12.41 | moshii | anders__: install it then |
| 18:12.48 | anders__ | how? :P |
| 18:12.49 | infernix | wols: <infernix> anders__: apt-get install java-package |
| 18:12.58 | anders__ | shall i write that.? |
| 18:13.14 | infernix | anders__: so in your case, as root: apt-get install fakeroot java-package |
| 18:13.22 | anders__ | i did install java-package |
| 18:13.39 | DocOC | dpkg seems to nat be responding... |
| 18:13.47 | DocOC | s/nat/not/ |
| 18:13.59 | infernix | anders__: then download the linux binary installer from java.com, and (as a normal user) do: fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/sun.java.installer.bin |
| 18:14.12 | anders__ | Error: The file "/path/to/sun.java.installer.bin" does not exist.' |
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| 18:14.26 | infernix | anders__: you're required to think. i cant help if you dont. |
| 18:14.33 | DocOC | anders__: use your brain, man. |
| 18:14.39 | anders__ | DocOC: .. |
| 18:14.55 | anders__ | infernix: where shall i download it..? |
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| 18:15.02 | anders__ | as i said, iam kinda new on linux |
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| 18:15.16 | infernix | anders__: i will repeat myself for the third time. |
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| 18:15.19 | infernix | anders__: then download the linux binary installer from java.com, and (as a normal user) do: fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/sun.java.installer.bin |
| 18:15.46 | anders__ | what one shall i download |
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| 18:15.52 | anders__ | java.sun? |
| 18:16.00 | moshii | anders__: if you're new to debian it might be worth reading up before getting installing java etc |
| 18:16.25 | metrix | what file do I edit to add my dns servers I want to connect to? |
| 18:16.25 | anders__ | http://java.sun.com/javase/ |
| 18:16.30 | anders__ | what one shall i download there then..? |
| 18:16.39 | infernix | "the linux binary installer" |
| 18:16.39 | moshii | metrix: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:16.46 | amortvigil | the console drawing program was called thedraw wsnt it[A? |
| 18:16.54 | metrix | Moshii: thank you |
| 18:17.25 | infernix | amortvigil: yea but thats like way back in the msdos days. no clue if it has been renamed but i do think it still exists |
| 18:17.33 | eimajenthat | What do all these errors about FIFO diagnostic register 0000 mean? |
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| 18:18.34 | infernix | anders__: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp. "Linux (self-extracting file)". click the download button. |
| 18:18.46 | wols | eimajenthat: there is more to this message. various hardware devices have FIFOs |
| 18:19.13 | anders__ | ok |
| 18:19.13 | anders__ | then |
| 18:19.17 | anders__ | the fakeroot thing? |
| 18:19.19 | ^osh^ | Does gnome do anyting funky during login? I got a decent screen-size (1280x1024) in gdm but when logging in screen goes all wonky on me. |
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| 18:19.38 | infernix | anders__: i am not going to explain it a fourth time. |
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| 18:20.08 | wols | anders__: in short, your kernel notices a (slight) problem and notifies you about it. usually on the first terminal (alt+f1) |
| 18:20.41 | anders__ | jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 18:20.45 | anders__ | thats the name of the file? |
| 18:20.51 | anders__ | how shall i zip it up and install it..? |
| 18:21.09 | ^osh^ | anders__: ./jre-* |
| 18:21.20 | vinvin | hi, I can't find what package generates the file /etc/mysql/debian.cnf with the debian-sys-maint passwd, i did copy the config file from a backup distrib, and i did not watch the new pass... |
| 18:21.36 | anders__ | ^osh^: i didnt found the file.. |
| 18:21.38 | infernix | vinvin: it's made on the very first mysql-server installation |
| 18:21.56 | vinvin | infernix: is there a way to regenerate it ? |
| 18:22.05 | vinvin | if I apt-get remove --purge mysql-server maybe ? |
| 18:22.15 | wols | vinvin: dpkg-reconfigure it |
| 18:22.19 | ^osh^ | anders__, if you don't know where it is, how do you know it's name? |
| 18:22.24 | vinvin | ok wols |
| 18:22.27 | infernix | vinvin: i dunno, i guess so. look in the package installer files. purge would work, otherwise look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server*inst |
| 18:22.44 | ^osh^ | s/it's/its/g |
| 18:22.45 | vinvin | did not work wols |
| 18:22.49 | wols | vinvin: I don't get why you need it? |
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| 18:23.16 | eimajenthat | wols, I pastebinned it: http://paste.uni.cc/9303 |
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| 18:23.45 | infernix | eimajenthat: 3 zillion times? cooool. |
| 18:23.46 | wols | eimajenthat: you have problems with your network. eth0 |
| 18:23.48 | vinvin | wols because every time mysql is upgraded i have a error msg about the connection to the server with the debian-sys-maint account |
| 18:23.58 | vinvin | infernix ok thanks |
| 18:24.00 | infernix | eimajenthat: maybe an irq sharing issue? |
| 18:24.08 | wols | vinvin: then remove mysql completely and reinstall I guess |
| 18:24.09 | ^osh^ | Can anyone explain why I can get higher rez in gdm than in gnome? |
| 18:24.18 | vinvin | yes |
| 18:24.25 | wols | ^osh^: tried ctrl+alt+numpad+ ? |
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| 18:24.43 | ^osh^ | wols: Wish it was that simple. :-/ |
| 18:24.50 | eimajenthat | infernix, wols, how do I fix it? |
| 18:25.08 | infernix | eimajenthat: wild guess, switch pci slots or replace card. |
| 18:25.27 | eimajenthat | infernix, laptop, onboard, no slots, no switching |
| 18:25.54 | infernix | eimajenthat: hm. what brand and type is it? (lspci) |
| 18:25.57 | wols | eimajenthat: what chipset? driver? |
| 18:26.01 | ^osh^ | wols, I changed XFree86 to a higher resolution, looks good in gdm, then during login screen goes weird. Like there's something wrong with hsync/vsync. |
| 18:26.23 | wols | ^osh^: somehow this can't be since gdm obviously works |
| 18:26.34 | wols | unless X then uses a different res/refresh |
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| 18:26.39 | eimajenthat | 3Com Corp 3c556 Hurricane CardBus [Cyclone] |
| 18:26.42 | eimajenthat | rev 10 |
| 18:26.58 | ^osh^ | wols, my thoughts exactly. that's why I suspect gnome does some funky stuff. perhaps? |
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| 18:27.18 | eimajenthat | 00:10.0 whatever that means |
| 18:28.10 | vinvin | well it seems that it is not mysql-server but mysql-common, and i cannot remove it without removing lot of things, so i will try to add the account by hand... |
| 18:28.14 | eimajenthat | don't know what driver |
| 18:28.27 | wols | vinvin: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-common? |
| 18:28.28 | infernix | eimajenthat: theres some info about it on google. google on: 3c556 fifo register |
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| 18:29.14 | vinvin | wols that does not create /etc/mysql |
| 18:29.33 | eimajenthat | infernix, thanks for the help. this doesn't look to be headed for a happy place, though |
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| 18:29.40 | vinvin | while /etc/mysql/my.cnf is in that package, i do not understand very well |
| 18:30.09 | wols | vinvin: then look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ what does create it |
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| 18:30.51 | infernix | eimajenthat: dunno. maybe there's some patch for it. or maybe it works in latest kernels. no clue |
| 18:30.56 | wols | mysql-server creates it |
| 18:31.26 | ^osh^ | Hmm, someone with what could be similar to my problem. But... anyone here read japanese? http://lists.debian.or.jp/debian-users/200402/msg00257.html |
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| 18:33.22 | amortvigil | well atm i got xfree68 and xbase clients x-window-system and icewm and fluxbox installed but i still cant see anything whe i startx an i cant dpkg-reconfigure because it says its not installed |
| 18:33.40 | zorton | what happened to the alpha port? did it finaly die? |
| 18:34.00 | amortvigil | what should i try? |
| 18:34.15 | vinvin | wols you were right it's mysql-server postinstall |
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| 18:34.33 | ma3x | hi |
| 18:34.34 | wols | amortvigil: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:34.42 | ma3x | I connected two pcs in the network, and I've set IP, default gateway and subnet |
| 18:34.47 | amortvigil | wols i already have |
| 18:34.50 | ma3x | but the 2nd computer can't resolv anything from the internet |
| 18:34.55 | ma3x | or ping anything |
| 18:35.57 | ma3x | how do I connect the 2nd computer to use the internet from the first? |
| 18:36.19 | MidgetKiller | you have 2 nic cards ma3x? |
| 18:36.34 | wols | ma3x: 2 NICs in the first? |
| 18:37.03 | quitte | is there a option for pppd that is more persistant than the persist option? i want the pppoe to try to reconnect if it fails forever. |
| 18:37.05 | ma3x | MidgetKiller, the first computer is connected to the internet via usb interface, and it's connected with the 2nd via ethernet yes |
| 18:37.11 | wols | amortvigil: if you can't drxx it, then you havent installed it |
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| 18:37.39 | wols | quitte: no there is not. best thing is a cronjob every few minutes that uses pidof to check for pppd |
| 18:37.53 | cydork | ma3x, you need nat or ipmasqurading configured on the first comp. |
| 18:37.57 | wols | ma3x: apt-get install ipmasq |
| 18:38.10 | wols | ma3x: on the first PC |
| 18:38.13 | quitte | wols ok thanks |
| 18:38.15 | ma3x | and then? |
| 18:38.19 | amortvigil | apt-get install drxx ?? |
| 18:38.37 | vinvin | that's ok i took the password I had in the file and put it into mysql and it runs |
| 18:38.47 | quitte | what happened to pppoed, btw? i never liked pppoe using pppd but now that project seems to have disappeared. |
| 18:38.54 | vinvin | thanks wols and infernix |
| 18:39.02 | infernix | yw |
| 18:39.21 | ma3x | wols, should I put the IP address of the 1st comp in the /etc/resolv.conf of the second? |
| 18:39.24 | vinvin | oh I have another great question... |
| 18:39.29 | wols | ma3x: then it will work if you set IP,subnet, gateway and DNS properly |
| 18:39.44 | wols | ma3x: only if you run dnsmasq (which you maybe should) on PC1 |
| 18:40.13 | vinvin | is there a debian way to install grub on a hard drive ? |
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| 18:40.23 | amortvigil | how to instal drxx? |
| 18:40.27 | vinvin | i did it by hand and i had an error 18 |
| 18:40.35 | cydork | ma3x, google for mini ipmasqurading howto |
| 18:40.55 | vinvin | so i did put the drive in another computer, installed debian on it and put back the drive in the right computer, and also had a error 18 |
| 18:40.57 | quitte | vinvin: grub-install. but there is a debian way to update menu.lst: update-grub |
| 18:41.01 | wols | !tell amortvigil about drxx |
| 18:41.07 | vinvin | ok quitte |
| 18:41.17 | wols | amortvigil: drxx = dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:41.36 | infernix | vinvin: if you cant get grub-install to work, try booting with a grub CD and installing from grub console. google on how you do that |
| 18:41.42 | ma3x | tnx |
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| 18:41.56 | wols | vinvin: your BIOS is shit |
| 18:42.08 | vinvin | maybe wols |
| 18:42.16 | wols | vinvin: make the /boot partition small and on the beginning of the disk |
| 18:42.19 | wols | not maybe. fact |
| 18:42.26 | vinvin | the / is on hda1 |
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| 18:42.42 | wols | Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds max supported by BIOS |
| 18:42.49 | infernix | lol |
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| 18:43.03 | amortvigil | wols what grpapic driver could i install on default? |
| 18:43.07 | vinvin | wols i finally get it working installing directly on the right computer, but i don't know why that was working and not before, so i'm looking for the magic option |
| 18:43.10 | vinvin | indeed |
| 18:43.15 | wols | vinvin: no one cares about /. you boot from /boot. and all depends where on disk your kernel is: what sector |
| 18:43.15 | amortvigil | graphic |
| 18:43.31 | vinvin | ok :/ |
| 18:43.38 | wols | amortvigil: depends on your system. vesa always works but gives eye cancer |
| 18:43.50 | wols | amortvigil: so what is the video chipset |
| 18:43.54 | vinvin | lilo was able to boot with no problem |
| 18:44.30 | wols | vinvin: it's always a tossup where the kernel is. can work with the install kernel and when you install a 2nd kernel it isn't since it's above 1024 cylinder boundary |
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| 18:45.35 | vinvin | :( |
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| 18:45.54 | vinvin | there is no alternative to this shit ? |
| 18:46.00 | wols | new BIOS |
| 18:46.01 | amortvigil | ok its configured ill try again |
| 18:46.07 | wols | IDE always crappy. always |
| 18:46.07 | amortvigil | brb |
| 18:46.11 | vinvin | :( |
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| 18:50.58 | quitte | how do i check in a shell script if $2 is set? |
| 18:51.20 | zinx | ! [ -z "$2" ] |
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| 18:53.23 | nimurphy | installing apache: dpkg --configure returned error status 10. anyone know of any problems with installing/configuring apache over etch? |
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| 18:56.13 | vinvin | anyone knows why logrotate searches /var/log/apache2 even if it does not exists ? |
| 18:57.19 | epsilon | vinvin: cause it's in logrotate config? |
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| 19:03.15 | vinvin | i don't see it epsilon |
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| 19:03.39 | itchi | Hello everyone. I have my hdd of my little gateway that have die. Just reinstall him right now, set it again up, but still not get access of my clients to the internet. Of my clients, when i ping to www.google.com, i get no reply, but if i ping dirctly to the ip, i get reply of it. What have i forget? |
| 19:04.07 | vinvin | oops i searched not the right place epsilon |
| 19:04.08 | vinvin | sorry |
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| 19:04.57 | epsilon | itchi: dns? |
| 19:04.57 | unsolaris | itchi: ensure than the resolved.conf is setup correctly |
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| 19:05.23 | tuv | how can i playback a mng video file? what program can do that? |
| 19:05.39 | unsolaris | *resolv.conf |
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| 19:05.53 | unsolaris | tuv: use totem |
| 19:05.56 | vinvin | i don't know what mng is but mplayer probably does |
| 19:06.19 | itchi | epsilon & unsolaris : Yeah, progably that, gona look it. Thanks mates ;-) |
| 19:06.47 | zamuro | Any reason why amarok won't play ogg, although i've got libs for that? |
| 19:07.01 | tuv | vinvin, mplayer was my first attempt. no go |
| 19:07.17 | tuv | unsolaris, totem says: can't play... This movie is a still image. You can open it with an image viewer. |
| 19:07.26 | tuv | unsolaris, gthumb couldn't open it |
| 19:07.39 | MidgetKiller | Debootstrap Error: Couldn't download fdutils |
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| 19:07.49 | MidgetKiller | why am I getting this on install off netinst cd? |
| 19:08.09 | quitte_ | MidgetKiller: what install is that? |
| 19:08.23 | MidgetKiller | netinst 3.1 sarge, linux26 |
| 19:08.42 | MidgetKiller | kernel 2.6.8 |
| 19:09.00 | quitte_ | and networking was setup properly? |
| 19:09.07 | itchi | epsilon & unsolaris : Is that on the clients i need to look? |
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| 19:09.17 | MidgetKiller | pretty sure it is |
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| 19:09.47 | MidgetKiller | it was setup by dhcp |
| 19:09.47 | unsolaris | itchi: yes |
| 19:10.06 | unsolaris | itchi: can you ping your own hostname ? |
| 19:10.25 | itchi | There are 2 lines in the /etc/resolv.conf; search default; namserver <ip_router> Is that right? |
| 19:10.32 | vinvin | how can i remove postfix messages from syslog ? |
| 19:10.35 | wols | nameserver |
| 19:10.37 | dvs | itchi: yes |
| 19:10.39 | itchi | unsolaris: I can only ping on ip adresses on my clients |
| 19:10.39 | vinvin | i mean /var/log/syslog |
| 19:10.54 | vinvin | they are already in /var/log/mail.* |
| 19:10.54 | dvs | itchi: actually, you can have more than one nameserver line |
| 19:10.57 | wols | vinvin: /etc/syslog.conf |
| 19:11.09 | unsolaris | exactly dvs |
| 19:11.12 | quitte_ | MidgetKiller: was that the only problem? |
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| 19:11.35 | dvs | brb |
| 19:11.47 | itchi | But still not work :-/ |
| 19:11.50 | unsolaris | itchi: do you use a router ? |
| 19:11.51 | vinvin | i don't have the man wols |
| 19:11.52 | amortvigil | help i still cant start a window manager |
| 19:11.59 | quitte_ | MidgetKiller: fdutils are tools to access floppies |
| 19:12.00 | MidgetKiller | yeah quitte |
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| 19:12.05 | tuv | xine did play the pnm files :) |
| 19:12.06 | itchi | unsolaris: That hdd that have die is my gateway/router |
| 19:12.10 | MidgetKiller | i don't have any floppy drives installed |
| 19:12.14 | amortvigil | what programs are al needed? |
| 19:12.22 | amortvigil | to start a window manager |
| 19:12.33 | MidgetKiller | so it would be safe to skip that? |
| 19:12.39 | unsolaris | nameserver (IP of the Gateway) |
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| 19:12.46 | unsolaris | you have it ? |
| 19:12.49 | quitte_ | MidgetKiller: if thats possible,yes |
| 19:12.49 | wols | MidgetKiller: yes |
| 19:12.53 | lunitik | amortvigil: what window manager you want to use? |
| 19:12.55 | unsolaris | in the resolv.conf ? |
| 19:12.57 | MidgetKiller | ok, thanks |
| 19:13.01 | vinvin | that's weird i don't have the syslog.conf man, while it's in the package sysklogd which is installed |
| 19:13.08 | eegore | What package is required for command line printing |
| 19:13.17 | gnuzi | my debian acts gay...just coz battery finished...and file system is ext2... :( |
| 19:13.25 | itchi | unsolaris: I have there2 lines in the /etc/resolv.conf; search default; namserver <ip_router> |
| 19:13.27 | gnuzi | i didnt fsck and it fixed some errors... |
| 19:13.35 | gnuzi | but some programs doesnt start |
| 19:13.38 | vinvin | depends of which printing system you use eegore |
| 19:13.45 | lunitik | eegore: cups-bsd provides lpr afaik |
| 19:13.46 | amortvigil | lunitik i want to use something liek ice wm or fluxbox i aloready got those together with xfree86 x-window-system and xbase clients |
| 19:13.48 | gnuzi | and when i start java vm...it hangs nautilus...how to fix the problem? |
| 19:13.56 | unsolaris | namserver <ip_router> -- put the ip of the router |
| 19:14.14 | lunitik | amortvigil: does /var/log/XFree86.0.log have any errors? |
| 19:14.17 | itchi | unsolaris: Yeah, it's been the ip of the gateway/router |
| 19:14.18 | gnuzi | i *did* |
| 19:14.26 | unsolaris | yes |
| 19:14.38 | lunitik | amortvigil: (assuming you've tried 'startx' |
| 19:14.43 | unsolaris | be sure after you have update the hostname file |
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| 19:15.32 | eegore | lunitik: run it through a pipe right? |
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| 19:15.38 | amortvigil | lunitok i tried i get a blackscreen and have to reboot |
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| 19:15.49 | itchi | unsolaris: Yes, on both sides. Clients side and gateway/router. Just the computer name in that file |
| 19:15.57 | lunitik | eegore: yes... |
| 19:16.26 | eegore | lpr: Error - no default destination available. |
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| 19:16.40 | vinvin | eegore install lpd |
| 19:17.00 | lunitik | amortvigil: ok... did you look at the log file? |
| 19:17.11 | lunitik | vinvin: cups provides backend... why have him install lpd? |
| 19:17.14 | eegore | not available |
| 19:17.23 | lunitik | vinvin: he just needs to configure cups :/ |
| 19:17.27 | amortvigil | lunitik yes vesa gives an error no matching modes and no screens found |
| 19:17.32 | eegore | got a place I can find a deb for it? |
| 19:17.35 | vinvin | sorry i did not see the cups part |
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| 19:17.48 | lunitik | eegore: use some browser, and configure cups via localhost:631 |
| 19:17.50 | wols | amortvigil: what chipset? |
| 19:18.06 | amortvigil | wols pentium1 |
| 19:18.17 | lunitik | amortvigil: you almost certainly don't want to use vesa... what kinda video card you have? |
| 19:18.20 | itchi | But still get 'unknow host www.google.com', when i ping it. But if i do int on the ip of google. It work, i get reply |
| 19:18.41 | amortvigil | lunitik i got an old laptop i dontkow |
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| 19:19.13 | amortvigil | lunitik how can i trace it? |
| 19:19.21 | vinvin | itchi the dns server is running on the server ? you ping from client or server ? |
| 19:19.24 | wols | amortvigil: a pentium1 is not a chipset. and I meant VIDEO chipset |
| 19:19.33 | itchi | vinvin: I ping it from the client |
| 19:19.35 | wols | amortvigil: lspci -v |
| 19:19.47 | itchi | It's been only the computer name that we need to write down in the /etc/hostname? It's not <hostname>DOT<domain>? |
| 19:19.47 | btwotch | Hello, how can I change the TK-font ( of e.g. psi) ? I have googled and I found nothing. |
| 19:20.09 | amortvigil | wols i laptop:) |
| 19:20.12 | wols | itchi: only hostname yes |
| 19:20.20 | wols | amortvigil: that's not what I asked. answer what I asked |
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| 19:20.37 | lontra | where is my the kernel log stored? /var/log? |
| 19:20.41 | itchi | okay, long time ago that i had setup that gateway, crap my big uptime records are gone :-p |
| 19:20.54 | wols | lontra: all logs are there |
| 19:20.56 | amortvigil | i already did read above i have an old laptop i dotn know the vidieo chipset |
| 19:21.05 | wols | 21:19 < wols> amortvigil: lspci -v |
| 19:21.11 | wols | I already typed that too |
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| 19:21.28 | itchi | I have backup'ed the config's and so, i have compared the config files, but i still not see what i do bad. I'm sure i have forget somethings, but what :-/ |
| 19:21.32 | amortvigil | cannot find any working acces mode |
| 19:21.36 | amortvigil | wols |
| 19:21.55 | amortvigil | method* |
| 19:21.58 | Blastur | its really weird, im trying to make a script that lists all my log files that have been access the past 2 days.. so i use "find -atime 2", and it turns up with nothing, even though "stat" on some of the logs shows that it has been access just hours ago? whats with that? |
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| 19:22.45 | lunitik | amortvigil: what does 'lspci' return? paste it to channels.debian.net/paste ... if you can't provide this info, we can't help you |
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| 19:23.14 | lunitik | amortvigil: install gpm to get a mouse of the console |
| 19:23.20 | lunitik | s/of/on/ |
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| 19:23.52 | amortvigil | lunitik how to paste it in a paste bin in console? |
| 19:23.56 | btwotch | amortvigil, or do nothing, and perhaps the other are going to help me. |
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| 19:24.17 | lunitik | amortvigil: install gpm, select text... middle click in pastebin |
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| 19:24.46 | lunitik | amortvigil: I'd tell you how to do it via screen, but that'd probably over complicate things for you :/ |
| 19:24.57 | cabaire | Blastur: try -atime -2 |
| 19:25.13 | lunitik | btwotch: we can help everyone... I don't recall seeing your issue though :/ |
| 19:25.49 | lunitik | btwotch: ahh... font issues... what is TK-font? |
| 19:26.08 | itchi | Someone tips where i need to look to? |
| 19:26.19 | MidgetKiller | ok... that was retarded, on the 2nd install attempt, it didn't give me that error |
| 19:26.21 | MidgetKiller | weird |
| 19:26.43 | btwotch | lunitik, you know tcl/tk? Ok, you probably know. My fonts are tooooo big. How can I make them smaller? |
| 19:27.02 | itchi | doh, of another client i have internet :-/ |
| 19:27.11 | itchi | Just my main computer not :-/ |
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| 19:27.40 | itchi | I guess the 'route' is messed up? |
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| 19:27.58 | lunitik | wols: lontra? whosa? |
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| 19:28.24 | wols | yousa |
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| 19:28.49 | lunitik | wols: I'm lunitik :( |
| 19:29.03 | lunitik | wols: python is nicer though... yes |
| 19:29.10 | itchi | hhhmmm, that client that have internet access, in the /etc/resolv.conf the values are that of the ISP, not of my gateway/router. Maybe that the differences and why it's working? I'm a bit confussed :-/ |
| 19:29.25 | zorton | flagship |
| 19:29.25 | wols | cause your router is no proper caching proxy? |
| 19:29.30 | zorton | is anyone familar with the usbserial converter support? I've got the right drive loaded for the converter that I have but don't see a corresponding ttyUSB? device |
| 19:29.43 | itchi | wols: Mine one? |
| 19:29.46 | lunitik | itchi: umm, then try those values in resolv.conf :/ |
| 19:29.58 | wols | itchi: yes |
| 19:30.32 | itchi | lunitik: Yup, but before it's was 'search default'; nameserver <ip_gateway>' |
| 19:31.17 | lunitik | itchi: yeah, I saw that :/ |
| 19:31.19 | itchi | wols: Possible he is not caching, like it not have configure the caching system. I also not know how to do that |
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| 19:31.39 | wols | what does your router run for software? |
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| 19:32.00 | epsilon | iirc debian's ppp scripts fuck up resolv.conf, I had to patch the scripts for a working resolv config on my router |
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| 19:32.12 | wols | they work fine here |
| 19:32.24 | sylvisj | Is there a gentoo-specific way to install nvidia drivers, or will using the binaries work fine? |
| 19:32.30 | wols | ppp does it automatically btw: usepeernds or somesuch for an option |
| 19:32.38 | lunitik | sylvisj: you realize you're in #debian? |
| 19:32.41 | wols | sylvisj: wrong channel I'd say |
| 19:32.42 | Juzzy | anyone have any experience running "debootstrap --arch 386 sarge /emptypartition |
| 19:32.48 | sylvisj | *sigh* my bad |
| 19:32.58 | itchi | wols: I miss some knowledges about an proxy i think |
| 19:33.04 | sylvisj | I'm in the other server's debian channel too, horrid typo |
| 19:33.18 | Juzzy | I'm trying to convert a centos box to debian remotly, but it cant actually download the packages, I get the list ok and they all verify |
| 19:33.40 | wols | !nvidia |
| 19:33.40 | sylvisj | Sorry for making a grand ass out of myself everyone :P |
| 19:33.41 | dpkg_ | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 19:33.59 | wols | itchi: you haven't answered my question |
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| 19:34.34 | sylvisj | wols, nvidia binaries are the only choice for etch lately |
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| 19:35.05 | itchi | Now, Internet are working here on the 'main' computer. I have change the /etc/resolv.conf the values of the ISP, so it's 'search pandora.be'; 'nameserver 195.130.130.133'; 'nameserver 195.130.131.5' |
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| 19:35.28 | itchi | wols: Hey, i told you that i miss some knowledges about that lol ;-), i not know |
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| 19:35.35 | wols | sylvisj: take it from sid |
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| 19:35.58 | wols | itchi: consumer router? |
| 19:36.05 | itchi | wols: I did an base install on the router/gateway (computer) |
| 19:36.20 | wols | so you lied. you do know what the router runs, it runs debian |
| 19:36.26 | wols | apt-get install dnsmasq |
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| 19:36.47 | sylvisj | wols: why use packages from unstable on etch? I've heard of people getting lots of bugs when trying that |
| 19:36.55 | Wazm | secret |
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| 19:36.59 | itchi | wols: Ohyea, sure it runs Debian (Sarge) ;-) Never i gona install somethings others ;-0 |
| 19:37.05 | wols | sylvisj: cause there is no nvidia stuff in etch right now |
| 19:37.08 | hjubal | hola |
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| 19:37.22 | wols | itchi: 21:36 < wols> apt-get install dnsmasq |
| 19:37.24 | sylvisj | wols: hence the binaries... they work pretty well with Xorg7 |
| 19:37.26 | wols | on the router |
| 19:37.38 | wols | sylvisj: binaries from where? |
| 19:37.43 | itchi | wols: Yeah, saw it ;-) Thanks, gona do it right now :-) |
| 19:37.49 | sylvisj | wols: nvidia's 8762 |
| 19:38.02 | wols | sylvisj: it won't work |
| 19:38.21 | wols | it will if you do a bit of manually mv/cp-ing, but not automatically |
| 19:38.26 | sylvisj | wols: Yes, yes it will :D You have to add a few things to the $sh NVIDIAdriversblah |
| 19:38.29 | wols | I know since I had to do exactly that a week ago |
| 19:38.52 | sylvisj | wols, lemme see if I can find the command, you may be able to make use of it, worked great for me |
| 19:38.56 | wols | sylvisj: plus there are no debs then which will fuck up your dpkg database. so have fun |
| 19:39.12 | wols | if you know everything already, why are you here asking about it? |
| 19:39.32 | itchi | wols: Ohyea, just that package is was missing?? I have change back the /etc/resolv.conf values to my own values. I mean ip of the gateway/router (computer) |
| 19:39.48 | itchi | wols: Been working right now it's looks |
| 19:40.03 | wols | itchi: yes, all clients have to use the router as a DNS server then |
| 19:40.10 | wols | dnsmasq is also a DHCP server if you want |
| 19:40.18 | sylvisj | ahh here |
| 19:40.26 | wols | and if you put names in your /etc/hosts on the router, you can give names to all machines on the network |
| 19:40.39 | itchi | wols: Great great, Yet Another Thing Learned, cooool. |
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| 19:41.02 | itchi | Thanks guys, many coffee or cola or wathever to you :-) |
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| 19:41.47 | sylvisj | wols, sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules |
| 19:42.01 | itchi | euhg, i gona reboot the computers and see right now if everything goes right now ;-) Ohyea reboot :-/ But need to see that the script firewall runs agian right and so. Guys, many thanks !! ;-) |
| 19:42.03 | sylvisj | wols, it works quite well, give it a shot sometime |
| 19:42.17 | opensores | how can i find out what program is using sound? |
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| 19:42.22 | itchi | brb |
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| 19:42.25 | wols | sylvisj: you won't gain anything since it's outside the deb package system |
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| 19:42.43 | anders__ | anyone that can tell me a nice burning program without k3b? |
| 19:42.56 | Matthias | Hi, does anybody know about an up-to-date version of the hdaps_protect patch which will apply to new kernels like 2.6.18-rc4? |
| 19:43.03 | zamuro | anders__: nautilus has a burning tool |
| 19:43.15 | wols | gcombust perhaps |
| 19:43.18 | wols | gnometoaster |
| 19:43.18 | Matthias | anders__: gnomebaker is probably similar |
| 19:43.31 | anders__ | can i burn iso files? |
| 19:43.31 | sylvisj | wols, but it does install nvidia drivers |
| 19:43.39 | sylvisj | without having to go through unstable stuff |
| 19:43.48 | sylvisj | anders__, cdrecord |
| 19:43.55 | wols | sylvisj: yes, it is worse: it's outside from debian |
| 19:44.08 | sylvisj | if you say so ;) |
| 19:44.09 | anders__ | but can i do iso to? |
| 19:44.17 | sylvisj | anders__ yes |
| 19:44.38 | Matthias | anders__: just do "cdrecord dev=<your_recorder> isofile.iso" |
| 19:44.48 | anders__ | where? :P |
| 19:44.55 | anders__ | just in terminal? |
| 19:45.04 | sylvisj | anders__, terminal. You may have to apt-get install cdrecord |
| 19:46.09 | anders__ | Matthias: i tried cdrecord dev=NAME |
| 19:46.15 | anders__ | itg came up: use cdrecord -help etc etc |
| 19:46.26 | zorton | blah |
| 19:46.39 | Matthias | anders__: do cdrecord -scanbus and see which device to use |
| 19:46.45 | itchi_ | Cool, working right now, many thanks to you wols ;-) |
| 19:46.51 | sylvisj | anders__, just try cdrecord isofile.iso, if you only have one burner it shoudl work |
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| 19:47.18 | anders__ | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. |
| 19:48.00 | sylvisj | anders__, replace NAME in dev=NAME with whatever your cd writer is, ex /dev/cdrom |
| 19:48.21 | sylvisj | Matthias is right, 'cdrecord -scanbus' will show you what you can use |
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| 19:48.39 | Thanatermesis | is fglrx broken on ETCH ? |
| 19:48.42 | anders__ | sylvisj: explain :S |
| 19:48.45 | Thanatermesis | for* :) |
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| 19:49.03 | sylvisj | anders__, just run 'cdrecord -scanbus' at terminal, tell me what it says in a pm |
| 19:49.18 | Matthias | anders__: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html |
| 19:49.37 | dondelelcaro | ls |
| 19:49.43 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that was interesting |
| 19:50.11 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: what was interesting? :o |
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| 19:51.53 | Ferret | Anyone here using a USB mac keyboard? |
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| 19:52.26 | stoned | drunk! |
| 19:52.32 | anders__ | if i want to install netinstall, what one shall i downloaD? |
| 19:52.33 | dvs | am not! |
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| 19:52.39 | anders__ | Ferret: :)0 |
| 19:52.49 | anders__ | u got a problem how to plug in? ;:OPl ol |
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| 19:54.07 | stoned | dvs, would you like to be |
| 19:54.09 | anders__ | if i want to download SuSE? What one is the net install? :(( |
| 19:54.17 | dvs | anders__: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 19:54.21 | anders__ | dvs: :P |
| 19:54.22 | anders__ | suse :P |
| 19:54.46 | dvs | stoned: I will be soon enough. |
| 19:55.03 | stoned | my body hurts |
| 19:55.09 | anders__ | what linux dist is best for a bad computer? |
| 19:55.12 | stoned | I drank all night, passed out, woke up, puked, and drank some more |
| 19:55.25 | dvs | atta boy! |
| 19:55.27 | stoned | anders__, could you state the approx. specs of the machine |
| 19:55.48 | Ferret | anders__: No, I just want to know if there's a keymap for it that gives it, say, a PrintScr key |
| 19:55.59 | anders__ | AMD Athlon 1800+ 1.5ghz , 1280DDR 400, 80GB HDD |
| 19:56.05 | Ferret | anders__: Possibly located on the F13 to F15 keys |
| 19:56.10 | anders__ | nVIDIA geforce 6600 256mb |
| 19:56.12 | dvs | anders__: what bad about that machine? |
| 19:56.19 | anders__ | i think its bad |
| 19:56.20 | stoned | its a decent machine |
| 19:56.25 | wols | dvs: RAM. not enough for kde/gnome |
| 19:56.26 | dvs | yeah |
| 19:56.29 | wols | apart fromt aht it's fine |
| 19:56.32 | stoned | sarge + xfce + you == good |
| 19:56.32 | dabreegster | anders__: I'm running a 500Mhz box. :P |
| 19:56.44 | anders__ | stoned: what dist? |
| 19:56.48 | stoned | sarge |
| 19:56.52 | anders__ | ? :P |
| 19:56.52 | stoned | DEBIAN sarge |
| 19:56.56 | anders__ | not debian? :/( |
| 19:56.58 | stoned | you're in #debian dude |
| 19:56.59 | anders__ | i think it lags for me :P |
| 19:57.08 | stoned | you're not gonna find people recommending other shit |
| 19:57.30 | stoned | !d-i anders__ |
| 19:57.30 | dpkg_ | anders__, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:57.37 | Ferret | I would if some other dist was more suitable. o.o |
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| 19:58.24 | anders__ | stoned: is that good for me? |
| 19:58.32 | itchi | he, my old laptop 300Mhz with 128 RAM rocks man, xfce or fluxbox, depend of my humor, but works realy realy nice with Debian! :-P |
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| 19:58.33 | stoned | yes |
| 19:58.36 | stoned | it is very good for you |
| 19:58.37 | cydork | anders__, there's nothing better for you.. |
| 19:58.43 | stoned | install sarge, and I will help you |
| 19:58.45 | dvs | anders__: You just need more RAM for GNOME/KDE |
| 19:58.58 | anders__ | do i ? :S |
| 19:58.58 | itchi | I have also an P1 100Mhz with just fluxbox, and it rocks! |
| 19:59.02 | stoned | I ran gnome-core for a year on 866mhz, 128mb ram |
| 19:59.04 | stoned | it was fine |
| 19:59.11 | stoned | it wasn't bad as people made it out to be |
| 19:59.15 | anders__ | but what one shall i download there |
| 19:59.16 | anders__ | i386? |
| 19:59.20 | itchi | Never seen an distro (or os) running so good on old stuff :-) :-) |
| 19:59.21 | stoned | then again, I only used GUI for browsing web and watching media |
| 19:59.21 | dvs | anders__: yes |
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| 19:59.28 | anders__ | netinst CD image (100 Mb)? |
| 19:59.29 | stoned | text editors, other stuff, etc. was ccli based |
| 19:59.32 | dvs | anders__: yes |
| 19:59.43 | stoned | anders__, well, you have a couple of choices |
| 19:59.43 | anders__ | but i maybie got sarge now? |
| 19:59.45 | Ferret | anders__: Wow, I would have thought the guides would answer such a simple question... I must remember to tell the authors that their guides suck |
| 19:59.46 | falco_toadfoot | can anyone recommend a laptop/notebook which debian'll run on? |
| 19:59.50 | stoned | anders__, I recommend this |
| 19:59.54 | falco_toadfoot | (a new one) |
| 19:59.54 | stoned | !install guide |
| 19:59.54 | dpkg_ | The Installation Guide for stable can be found at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual For sid: ask me about "iyhtays". Also ask me about "reference". |
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| 20:00.10 | stoned | anders__, ^^ read sections 4 & 5 of the sarge install guide |
| 20:00.22 | dvs | falco_toadfoot: I'd get an HP/Compaq because they've done a lot for Linux. |
| 20:00.22 | stoned | and actually read the whole thing before you begin debian installer |
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| 20:00.55 | Ferret | Plus HPs have the Left Control key in the right place. |
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| 20:01.46 | falco_toadfoot | dvs: ok.. so supported out of the box? |
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| 20:02.02 | falco_toadfoot | (as in no home-rolled kernel) |
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| 20:02.27 | dvs | falco_toadfoot: yes |
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| 20:02.44 | falco_toadfoot | dvs: including wireless? |
| 20:02.45 | falco_toadfoot | :D |
| 20:02.46 | stoned | boredom is a disease worse than cancer. Debian cures it! |
| 20:02.52 | stoned | seriously, trust me |
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| 20:03.00 | dvs | falco_toadfoot: I've never messed with wireless so I can't say |
| 20:03.10 | falco_toadfoot | ok |
| 20:03.46 | falco_toadfoot | wish someone'd make a project of certifying notebooks/brands/hardware for debian |
| 20:03.48 | vinvin | does nfs-kernel-server uses the same config files than the user one ? |
| 20:03.53 | btwotch | ok guys, you can change your tk-font via editing your xresources-file, change the font (probably the *font option), to a font you got via xfontsel. Then you exec: xrdb resource-file ; restart your application |
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| 20:04.39 | digits | I get an error from cyrus that sais that i need a dpkg-statoverride, but I don't have a clue on what to set it or on how, I cannot find any documentation of it... |
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| 20:07.10 | tuv | where can i learn about setting up splashy on debian testing/unstable with nvidia video card? |
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| 20:09.07 | mandingo | lunitik: not everyone leaves their workstations on 24/7 |
| 20:09.39 | lunitik | mandingo: why the hell not? it uses more electricity to turn on and off than to keep on for a day :/ |
| 20:09.53 | wols | lunitik: who told you that? |
| 20:10.22 | wols | and splashy is still a waste of time and ressources |
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| 20:11.44 | lunitik | wols: I can't find documentation, seen it on discover channel though :o |
| 20:12.38 | lunitik | wols: because it takes a lot of energy to power up everything etc... when its just flowing around, it doesn't need as much energy... |
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| 20:14.03 | tuv | in fact i do leave my "laptop" on all the time (current uptime 8 days - had to take it out with me 8 days ago!). but why not have pretty pictures at the unfortunate event of a reboot? :) |
| 20:14.23 | lunitik | wols: only time it uses more electricity is when you plug in something USB, or access CD's etc, because they use more energy... |
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| 20:15.27 | g333k | hi, a tool to recover files from my cam's memory stick? |
| 20:15.54 | tuv | g333k, gthumb |
| 20:16.17 | hjubal | given a list of installed debs, how do I know the repository name (official, backport, ...)? |
| 20:16.39 | lunitik | hjubal: apt-get policy pkg |
| 20:16.46 | lunitik | uhh... apt-cache even |
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| 20:17.24 | tuv | g333k, if you're running gnome, an app. should come up when you plug in your camera's usb cable |
| 20:17.46 | lunitik | likewise kde 8) |
| 20:17.55 | hjubal | lunitik, u're right.. tnx |
| 20:18.21 | lunitik | s/should/will if you have digikam installed and its set to do that.../ |
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| 20:18.36 | abrotman | HA! |
| 20:18.50 | Shadowcat | lunitik: now look what you did, you woke abrotman |
| 20:18.54 | Shadowcat | you've damned us all |
| 20:18.55 | abrotman | i was out riding |
| 20:19.02 | lunitik | abrotman: KDE doesn't assume things... although default, digikam does that |
| 20:19.02 | abrotman | nice day here |
| 20:19.14 | wols | lunitik: you misunderstood and slept in HS physics |
| 20:19.18 | cydork | hjubal, try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec |
| 20:19.22 | abrotman | kde assumes you are five |
| 20:19.23 | wols | your PC never uses less than ~100W give or take |
| 20:19.28 | Shadowcat | KDE 0wns j00 |
| 20:19.32 | lunitik | abrotman: wrong |
| 20:19.39 | abrotman | right! |
| 20:19.40 | lunitik | abrotman: gnome assumes you're retarded |
| 20:19.49 | abrotman | wrong! |
| 20:20.02 | wols | is there any DE which does't requires retardedness from the user? |
| 20:20.06 | wols | *doesn't |
| 20:20.10 | abrotman | wols: ratpoison? :) |
| 20:20.12 | lunitik | abrotman: then explain why they hide most every setting :/ |
| 20:20.12 | Shadowcat | gnome is retarded, so that's just fine I guess |
| 20:20.18 | zinx | wols: No. |
| 20:20.27 | abrotman | lunitik: it doesn't .. you're just not smart enough to find it |
| 20:20.35 | wols | abrotman: that requires suicidal tendencies tho |
| 20:20.43 | hjubal | cydork, tnx, but i was talking about apt ;) |
| 20:20.44 | lunitik | abrotman: I'm sorry, it puts things in its registry... I forgot |
| 20:21.03 | infernix | use ion |
| 20:21.22 | abrotman | <directhex> abrotman, but kde has a choice of three different types of setting per-app, with each setting screen offering 20 or so sections! that makes it better! |
| 20:21.37 | abrotman | yay hex \o/ |
| 20:21.40 | cydork | g333k, , try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec |
| 20:21.41 | pstickne | wols, on many, higher than 100W :) |
| 20:21.52 | infernix | !beer directhex |
| 20:21.53 | abrotman | lunitik: hex and i were joking about kde earlier |
| 20:21.54 | lunitik | If you're configuring things 24/7 ... you need a life... |
| 20:22.05 | cydork | hjubal, sorry that was for g333k :P ! m bit drunk as you can see !! |
| 20:22.14 | lunitik | If you're browsing through configuration 24/7 just because you can... you need help |
| 20:22.23 | lunitik | Most people set things how they want... and leave it that way... |
| 20:22.30 | abrotman | apologist |
| 20:22.42 | infernix | xcept tweakers and fiddlers |
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| 20:22.48 | afaik | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/debian.jpg |
| 20:22.49 | afaik | heheeh |
| 20:23.13 | abrotman | afaik: those are old |
| 20:23.18 | jatt | uh |
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| 20:23.28 | lunitik | Every tool you need for a given interface should be in the tool bar... should never have to go into menu's |
| 20:23.36 | abrotman | so lunitik actually prefers he not fiddle . .but complains that other DEs don't let him fiddle .. |
| 20:23.37 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 20:23.43 | abrotman | selfloather! |
| 20:24.01 | abrotman | he just likes the shinies |
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| 20:24.07 | lunitik | abrotman: other DE's don't let me set things how I want them... |
| 20:24.30 | lunitik | abrotman: other DE's set things up the way they want you to have them... and when you want something else, they say no... |
| 20:24.31 | abrotman | hehe whatever |
| 20:24.52 | lunitik | I like things the way I want them... once I've configured, I leave it alone |
| 20:25.00 | abrotman | i started ignoring your opinions about WMs about two months ago |
| 20:25.07 | abrotman | they were that worthless :) |
| 20:25.19 | abrotman | now .. in other news . .manny might not continue his hit streak! |
| 20:25.42 | lunitik | abrotman: thats fine... continue having your desktop control the way you work |
| 20:26.15 | digits | I don't seem to have a pam_stack.so, any body know how to fix? |
| 20:26.30 | infernix | digits: /msg dpkg search pam_stack |
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| 20:26.55 | wols | since Litestep or WPS aren't portable, I stick with *box |
| 20:26.56 | abrotman | lunitik: ever think .. it might be the way i work ? |
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| 20:27.15 | lunitik | abrotman: because you got used to the way your desktop wants you to work. |
| 20:27.32 | infernix | i still prefer ion over *box even though *box is great in itself |
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| 20:27.38 | abrotman | no .. but thanks for assuming idiot |
| 20:27.38 | wols | lunitik: and yours got used to whatever you use |
| 20:27.46 | wols | infernix: I need a popup |
| 20:27.46 | thegraham | is there a command to cound the number of lines in a file? |
| 20:27.52 | abrotman | wc -l |
| 20:27.53 | wols | thegraham: wc -l |
| 20:27.57 | thegraham | thanks |
| 20:28.01 | abrotman | beer! ..give me beer! |
| 20:28.01 | infernix | wols: FloatWS in ion? |
| 20:28.22 | lunitik | abrotman: then its a miracle, and I guess Gnome is perfect for you... |
| 20:28.29 | wols | infernix: dunno what it uses. but a) ion was ugly b) I didn#t get why it would be good |
| 20:28.37 | abrotman | lunitik: it might very well be |
| 20:28.48 | wols | lunitik: popup being a right mouseclick on desktop and I have my menu, my WM configs, etc |
| 20:29.13 | digits | infernix: i don't get a response from dpkg... but i used the online package databse... there doesn't seem to be one for debian (closest match is pam_stack.so.pl in webmin-core) |
| 20:29.14 | lunitik | abrotman: here... corners are easier to access... so things are in corners that I need... apps have toolbars that have ever function I use... etc |
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| 20:29.34 | abrotman | that's possibly one of the stupidest things you've said |
| 20:29.35 | wols | digits: why do you need that lib then? |
| 20:29.35 | infernix | wols: well IonWS with no possibility of obscuring windows is sublime for my use. for stuff like gimp i use FloatWS which is more like *box |
| 20:30.03 | lunitik | wols: I have middle click application menu... right click desktop menu... I don't have to wonder around the screen for a menu... and I don't have to use the keyboard to speed it up if my hands are on my mouse... |
| 20:30.15 | infernix | digits: if it doesnt exist you'll have to build it i guess |
| 20:30.36 | wols | lunitik: kde is too inflexible. If I'd liked kde, I'd stay with windows exploder. I like neither |
| 20:30.38 | abrotman | see .. that's just proof lunitik never used gnome .. i have the same menu |
| 20:31.02 | lunitik | wols: kde is too inflexible? I'm confused... |
| 20:31.11 | lunitik | abrotman: I used Gnome solid for 1 year |
| 20:31.18 | Knorrie | !start a flame war |
| 20:31.18 | dpkg_ | /. anyone? |
| 20:31.19 | abrotman | and you couldn't find middle click? how sad |
| 20:31.20 | infernix | wols: ion's power lies in its complete keyboard control and the IonWS workspaces. for me at least. but configuring ion3 isnt trivial i admit |
| 20:31.25 | wols | lunitik: ever used things like Litestep on WIndows? (or old Object Desktop on OS/2)? |
| 20:31.31 | digits | infernix: i guess so, it's a red hat thing, just read it on a post from -03 which said that it's now distributed as a part of pam |
| 20:31.58 | lunitik | abrotman: I requested Gnome allow right click, or middle click application menu... they said no because its not what users want... same with OS X-style menu. |
| 20:32.04 | wols | infernix: an app needs sensible defaults for me so I like it. without sensible defaults right after apt-get, I don't like it |
| 20:32.05 | infernix | digits: wel lif you can figure out which version of PAM it comes with, maybe backport it from sid if its in there. maybe its just not compiled in. i donno. |
| 20:32.15 | abrotman | i have a middle click menu .. you're not capable of configuring a desktop .. how sad |
| 20:32.35 | lunitik | abrotman: sawfish as window manager? |
| 20:32.40 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:32.46 | infernix | wols: i see :) well in that respect, i couldnt work with ion3's defautlt settings so i understand;) |
| 20:32.49 | digits | infernix: i'll try (not a very good debian user... yet) |
| 20:33.12 | abrotman | oh wait .. you mean .. !!!! i can configure the WM in gnome .. holy fuck!!!! they didn't force me into somehting .. lunitik lied!!!! |
| 20:33.14 | wols | infernix: if the defaults in ion suck, then the programmers did a bad job, at least if they want their app being used :) |
| 20:33.14 | lunitik | abrotman: sawfish isn't part of Gnome... I don't assume Gnome users use another window manager |
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| 20:33.34 | abrotman | gnome allows you to use any WM you'd like |
| 20:33.42 | minerale | would this be an acceptable way to backup -- tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz * (performed under /) -- |
| 20:33.45 | abrotman | i got a middle click .. you didn't .. your proble |
| 20:33.46 | abrotman | problem |
| 20:34.11 | lunitik | abrotman: because there are window manager specs... all DE's do, if the window manager in question complies to specs |
| 20:34.18 | g333k | tuv, I mean recover deleted pictures from the memory stick |
| 20:34.22 | wols | abrotman, lunitik: it's getting old. we now know you're of different opinion. Rent a mudhole and you can wrestel it out. If you're clothed in bikinis, I'm sure you can find some people who pay money to watch |
| 20:34.36 | abrotman | wols: i've got $5 on me! |
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| 20:34.46 | infernix | wols: well i dunno. everyone's use of the keyboard is personal. its not that hard to reconfigure it, but if you don't, it's not instant usable. for beginners it simply has a learning curve. thats not too great for a WM i suppose, but it probably means its not for everyone;) |
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| 20:35.28 | wols | abrotman: if you had $5 on lunitik, it would be cheating and don king would cry |
| 20:35.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:35.50 | lunitik | abrotman: now just OS X style menu ... and I'd be at home |
| 20:35.52 | abrotman | maybe i have $5 on me and $2 on me |
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| 20:35.56 | abrotman | lunitik: shut up |
| 20:36.04 | lunitik | abrotman: /ignore |
| 20:36.07 | infernix | !beer abrotman |
| 20:36.10 | tarzeau | !nutmeg |
| 20:36.14 | abrotman | lunitik: we were asked to stop .. just fucking shut up already |
| 20:36.30 | tarzeau | does someone take nutmeg? |
| 20:36.30 | wols | tarzeau: you ill? |
| 20:36.37 | tarzeau | wols: no? |
| 20:36.48 | wols | then you have a bad case of typoitis |
| 20:36.57 | wols | popcon keys are nowhere near "nutmeg" keys |
| 20:36.57 | tarzeau | wols: why? |
| 20:36.57 | infernix | !dict typoitis |
| 20:37.00 | dpkg_ | could not find definition for typoitis |
| 20:37.02 | tarzeau | wols: haha |
| 20:37.04 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:37.04 | dpkg_ | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 20:37.11 | wols | that's my boy! |
| 20:37.22 | tarzeau | wols: but do you know nutmeg? |
| 20:37.41 | wols | I heard some aussie people mention it. they're all crazies |
| 20:37.52 | wols | too much sheep sex does that with you |
| 20:37.55 | ineiros | minerale: Certainly not. You probably won't want to backup /dev/random, for example. (And it's 'c', not 'x', when you're creating an archive) |
| 20:38.06 | tarzeau | wols: i don't have intercourse with sheep |
| 20:38.14 | itchi | I want to start xterm with some colors, in which file need i that to fix? In the ~/.bashrc file? |
| 20:38.18 | wols | you're no aussie either, are you? |
| 20:38.23 | tarzeau | no i'm not |
| 20:38.44 | wols | you probably prefer goats due to the lack of sheep in the alps :P |
| 20:38.51 | infernix | o_O |
| 20:38.53 | tuv | itchi, there are some commented out lines in ~/.bashrc that will do that for you |
| 20:38.57 | lunitik | itchi: yes... should be in user config files already though... |
| 20:39.02 | infernix | leave the animals alone already |
| 20:39.18 | tarzeau | wols: you know switzerland has not only alps, alps is only about 60% |
| 20:39.20 | wols | infernix: I like to experiment |
| 20:39.30 | tarzeau | there's 30% mittelland, and 10% jura |
| 20:39.35 | tuv | itchi, it doesn't look that good though.. you might need to change it to your convenience |
| 20:39.41 | wols | alindeman: all I ever see of .ch on tv is alps. ergo: all alps there |
| 20:39.43 | tarzeau | i'm in the 30% part of switzerland |
| 20:39.44 | infernix | wols: i dont think man has ever succesfully procreated with animal. your point? |
| 20:39.51 | tarzeau | unless it's winter |
| 20:39.55 | wols | infernix: perfect birth control! |
| 20:40.00 | g333k | cydork, Thanks I will try it |
| 20:40.12 | wols | tarzeau: wth is jura anyways. I always though they're mountains too |
| 20:40.20 | infernix | wols: sick. ;) |
| 20:40.23 | wols | and since in the middle of the alps, they belong to the alps, no? |
| 20:40.24 | itchi | tuv: How so? I not realy understand |
| 20:40.31 | tarzeau | wols: but not the alps |
| 20:40.45 | tarzeau | infernix: he never heard about genital cut offs |
| 20:40.51 | wols | left of it alps, right of it alps. jura in the middle. why aren't they alps? |
| 20:40.51 | infernix | lol |
| 20:40.57 | tarzeau | infernix: it's easy/quick for men, and also possible for women |
| 20:41.09 | tarzeau | infernix: really great if you love sex and don't want children anymore |
| 20:41.11 | tuv | itchi, did you look at your ~/.bashrc? |
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| 20:41.27 | itchi | tuv: Sure, i did, but i not realy want an alias |
| 20:41.32 | tarzeau | infernix: and if you don't want to switch your sexual partner anymore |
| 20:41.36 | g333k | cydork, the pkg is testdisk right? |
| 20:41.50 | tarzeau | but really we were talking nutmeg, so no nutmeg takers here? |
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| 20:42.10 | tuv | itchi, who said anything about an alias? just look for this line there: "# Comment in the above and uncomment this below for a color prompt" |
| 20:42.41 | cydork | g333k, yep photorec is part of that |
| 20:42.50 | itchi | tuv: Hhhmm, i have no info like that in this file :-/ |
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| 20:43.06 | tuv | itchi, are you running sarge? |
| 20:43.21 | itchi | tuv: Euhm, no Etch here on this box |
| 20:43.30 | afaik | wot's the name of Wil Wheaton's linux distro? |
| 20:43.43 | abrotman | he has one? ask google |
| 20:43.52 | tuv | itchi, well my .bashrc from etch has it. anyway you can find plenty of docs on color bash prompt on the web |
| 20:44.09 | itchi | tuv: But on another Etch box, i have these comments. I guess i maked an empty one. Gona look a bit there |
| 20:44.15 | tuv | itchi, e.g. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html |
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| 20:44.37 | itchi | tuv: Thanks ;-) |
| 20:44.43 | tuv | itchi, np |
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| 20:45.07 | lunitik | afaik: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/006apr05/features/wheaton/ second question |
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| 20:45.16 | afaik | lol |
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| 20:48.52 | Zweideutig | Why is there no spell checking in openoffice? What package(s) do I need to add? |
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| 20:49.36 | lunitik | Zweideutig: theoretically, myspell-en |
| 20:49.41 | tuv | Zweideutig, you probably need to set your language to usa-english |
| 20:49.49 | streuner | Zweideutig: apt-cache search openoffice |
| 20:49.52 | tuv | Zweideutig, in openoffice that is |
| 20:50.18 | Zweideutig | Hmm. |
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| 20:51.42 | falco_toadfoot | have anyone had any experience installing debian on IBM thinkpad R60e? |
| 20:52.22 | abrotman | !laptops |
| 20:52.22 | dpkg_ | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 20:52.33 | epsilon | Zweideutig: myspell-de-de, openoffice.org-l10n-de? |
| 20:52.53 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: or ask a better question |
| 20:53.15 | lunitik | !question |
| 20:53.15 | dpkg_ | You don't need to prefix your questions with "Question:" or "I have a question:". See <ask>. |
| 20:53.23 | lunitik | !ask |
| 20:53.24 | dpkg_ | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:53.27 | lunitik | ahh |
| 20:53.40 | flurdoing | does anyone know of a tool that can resolve (and ideally also reverse-resolve) every IP in a subnet? i've been using nmap with the -R option, but its slow and requires at least one port (-p) be specified.... |
| 20:54.11 | infernix | for i in `seq 1 254`; do host 192.168.0.$i; done |
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| 20:55.17 | infernix | flurdoing: or do nmap -sP 192.168.0.* |
| 20:55.47 | abrotman | lunitik: esr's pages |
| 20:56.14 | abrotman | dpkg_: hi |
| 20:56.29 | lunitik | abrotman: factoid* ... the bot isn't talking to me via /msg |
| 20:56.35 | abrotman | the bot is busted |
| 20:56.52 | lunitik | abrotman: I think its 'questions' actually, but I'd rather not play with the bot in the channel :/ |
| 20:56.58 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.18 | lunitik | falco_toadfoot: see that link ^ |
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| 20:57.36 | abrotman | btw .. |
| 20:57.38 | abrotman | !questions |
| 20:57.38 | dpkg_ | remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> |
| 20:58.06 | lunitik | yeah... works here... |
| 20:58.14 | cr3 | in /etc/exports, how can I specify that the whole network under 192.168.1.0 can mount a directory? I tried 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/192.168.1.255, but neither worked |
| 20:58.16 | wols | that's it. supy needs a factoid database |
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| 20:58.50 | lunitik | wols: /j #debian-bots (I think its still on this network) - has links to the dpkg etc database |
| 20:59.09 | Zweideutig | What is the package name of the package with the Times New Roman font? |
| 20:59.09 | flurdoing | infernix: ping scan doesnt really help because some of the hosts are unresponsive yet they resolve |
| 20:59.19 | wols | lunitik: main problem is the factoid plugin for supy. not the DB :) |
| 20:59.21 | lunitik | Zweideutig: msttcorefonts |
| 20:59.29 | flurdoing | infernix: i think -sL might work tho |
| 20:59.39 | Zweideutig | Thanks. |
| 20:59.41 | infernix | flurdoing: read the PM |
| 20:59.55 | lunitik | wols: that channel also provides links for functional blootbots... |
| 20:59.56 | flurdoing | infernix: i dont see any pm |
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| 21:00.10 | flurdoing | infernix: are you identified to nickserv? |
| 21:00.13 | kharcore | hi |
| 21:00.18 | infernix | ack, sec |
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| 21:00.26 | lunitik | wols: last I tried playing with it, blootbot in Debian was broken, that was a while ago though |
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| 21:00.40 | infernix | flurdoing: got it now? |
| 21:00.43 | kharcore | ok how can I isntall this package, I don"t see where to dl it |
| 21:00.44 | afaik | I had dreams of being attached by a pack of mad dogs |
| 21:00.50 | wols | lunitik: no one said anything about blootbot since I wouldn't use it. see supy |
| 21:00.51 | kharcore | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=236706 |
| 21:00.54 | flurdoing | infernix: yep thx |
| 21:00.55 | wols | supybot that is |
| 21:01.04 | kharcore | I don't see the deb package of it |
| 21:01.08 | afaik | speaing of which |
| 21:01.13 | abrotman | kharcore: it's in the mentors ftp archive |
| 21:01.15 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 21:01.15 | dpkg_ | methinks mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 21:01.16 | afaik | can I get spyware running on linux? |
| 21:01.21 | afaik | under wine or something? |
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| 21:01.22 | infernix | flurdoing: you can remove the awk and sed stuff if you want full output of course |
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| 21:01.30 | lunitik | wols: I just brought it up... because it works... and is what the others in here are... |
| 21:01.36 | MorbusIff | good day. is there anyway to discover what source is saying there's an upgraded package? |
| 21:01.36 | DeathWo1f | hello all, does anyone know a way to 'multi thread' properly wget, ie i have a list of urls and i would like to download them by batch of 5 instead of 1 |
| 21:01.37 | falco_toadfoot | so, how would one go about to ask a general question about experience on a specific laptop model, apropos installing debian gnu/linux ? |
| 21:01.40 | kharcore | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:01.49 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: are you having a specific issue with it ? |
| 21:01.50 | MorbusIff | i just added dotdeb to my soruce list, did an upgrade, and now see there's a login passwd and libkrb53 update. |
| 21:01.52 | flurdoing | infernix: yep... many thanks! :) very useful |
| 21:01.52 | wols | lunitik: I know. but I already hate the one bot in that other channel, I can't bring even more bots .) |
| 21:01.58 | MorbusIff | is that official, or from dotdeb? |
| 21:02.01 | afaik | falco_toadfoot, just ask |
| 21:02.09 | falco_toadfoot | abrotman: no, that's the ting: I need a laptop :D |
| 21:02.12 | cydork | DeathWo1f, just write a script, background the wget :P |
| 21:02.12 | afaik | dont ask to ask |
| 21:02.19 | falco_toadfoot | jeez |
| 21:02.22 | wols | MorbusIff: apt-cache policy passwd |
| 21:02.40 | falco_toadfoot | I was shouting out for a "don't buy it!" or "it works nicely with debian sid!" |
| 21:02.40 | lunitik | falco_toadfoot: are you currently having issues? describe them... |
| 21:02.44 | MorbusIff | wols: beautiful, thanks. |
| 21:02.45 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: i have a G40 .. it works well .. but that was pre-lenovo |
| 21:02.52 | falco_toadfoot | ah.. |
| 21:03.00 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: that's what linux-laptop.net is for |
| 21:03.06 | falco_toadfoot | yes |
| 21:03.16 | falco_toadfoot | but it only described install of suse linux |
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| 21:03.22 | falco_toadfoot | hence the question here |
| 21:03.28 | abrotman | well .. that's a start .. there's alsot the debian-laptop mailing list |
| 21:03.30 | wols | falco_toadfoot: linux is linux |
| 21:03.38 | lunitik | falco_toadfoot: SUSE has same kernel... if its supported there, its supported on Debian |
| 21:03.41 | falco_toadfoot | wols: really? |
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| 21:04.03 | abrotman | lunitik: that's not entirely true |
| 21:04.06 | wols | falco_toadfoot: since you obviously didn't know it, it had to be said |
| 21:04.10 | MorbusIff | wols: how about a changelog of the package itself? dotdeb is saying it has a newer version of libdbd-mysql-perl, and I want to know more about why it's better than what debian stable is shipping. |
| 21:04.11 | lunitik | abrotman: how so? |
| 21:04.12 | falco_toadfoot | lunitik: I had the impression suse was closed-source stuff |
| 21:04.13 | DeathWo1f | cydork, yeah... but other than using very dirty variables to count... isnt there a way to read say... 5 lines at once? |
| 21:04.26 | abrotman | lunitik: the suse packaged kernel probably has many nonfree drivers debian doesn't package |
| 21:04.35 | falco_toadfoot | exactly |
| 21:04.39 | lunitik | falco_toadfoot: no... openSUSE is entirely open source... Novell and SUSE Enterprise have some closed things |
| 21:04.48 | lunitik | abrotman: no |
| 21:05.01 | abrotman | you know this for a fact? |
| 21:05.01 | wols | MorbusIff: no way. apt-cache show packagename |
| 21:05.03 | wols | but that's it |
| 21:05.08 | falco_toadfoot | lunitik: yes, so how do I know if "suse" is opensuse or "closed"-suse? |
| 21:05.08 | wols | unless you install |
| 21:05.13 | abrotman | lunitik: opensuse is different than suse |
| 21:05.32 | falco_toadfoot | well, excuse me gentlemen while I pop out for ice cream |
| 21:05.40 | abrotman | bring me some! |
| 21:05.41 | lunitik | abrotman: although, they just made a big song and dance about not even providing them anymore... SUSE since being acquired by Novell, hasn't been including them, but made them easy to fetch |
| 21:05.50 | abrotman | orange dreamsicle please! |
| 21:06.00 | falco_toadfoot | abrotman: haëgendazs? |
| 21:06.04 | MorbusIff | thanks again |
| 21:06.12 | lunitik | abrotman: SUSE pre-9.2 had some closed things |
| 21:06.13 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: orange creamscile |
| 21:06.44 | falco_toadfoot | well, you all have your ftpds ready |
| 21:06.53 | kharcore | abrotman: sorry I can't find it in there |
| 21:07.06 | abrotman | kharcore: ask #debian-mento0rs |
| 21:07.07 | lunitik | abrotman: and actually... suse is now opensuse... and then there is suse linux enterprise server... which won't have proprietary drivers either |
| 21:07.09 | abrotman | bah .. spell it right |
| 21:07.26 | vinvin | does nfs-kernel-server uses the same config files than the user one ? |
| 21:08.28 | kharcore | abrotman: wouldn't be easier just to compile it manually the package? |
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| 21:08.49 | kharcore | abrotman: it's taking me too long to find a damn .deb for this program |
| 21:08.53 | yure | falco_toadfoot, i have sony vaio and have no problems after installing sony_acpi kernel module and sonyfn module. Ah yes, and i had to use proprietary nvidia driver. other than that works great |
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| 21:09.08 | lunitik | abrotman: although, they also worked on something that makes it easy to install closed drivers, and upgrade kernels etc at will without breaking them... so they obviously aren't exactly anti-closed source... |
| 21:09.08 | kharcore | and the website download says that's platform independant |
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| 21:09.59 | yure | falco_toadfoot, also for laptops, i heard ubuntu works great out of the box. haven't tried though. |
| 21:10.33 | lunitik | Shadowcat: so long as I can use smartpm, I'm fine on them ;) |
| 21:10.33 | peterS | lunitik: suse was famous in the early years as the biggest distribution whose _own_ tools (YaST in particular) were closed-source |
| 21:10.53 | lunitik | peterS: yes... thats one thing Novell changes for the better... |
| 21:10.56 | infernix | yet another shitty tool |
| 21:10.59 | kharcore | could someone guide me how to compile a package? |
| 21:11.10 | lunitik | peterS: might even have a gtk front end soon... |
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| 21:11.15 | infernix | i never liked it much |
| 21:11.15 | peterS | eeek |
| 21:11.41 | amortvigil | how can i download an x server SVGA driver? |
| 21:11.46 | abrotman | why does he keep going ? |
| 21:11.51 | kharcore | can apt-get handle compiles or do I need to use make && make install? |
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| 21:12.44 | lunitik | infernix: I don't like YAST much, but for most, its good for transitioning from Windows... so it has its place |
| 21:12.44 | infernix | abrotman whats the apt-get source factoid? |
| 21:12.44 | abrotman | it's kind of like nvz .. but about computers :) |
| 21:12.44 | abrotman | !source |
| 21:12.44 | dpkg_ | [source] To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 21:12.44 | abrotman | that ones? |
| 21:12.44 | lunitik | infernix: I'd rather admins use yast over webmin, certainly |
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| 21:12.45 | abrotman | yast is as bad as webmin |
| 21:12.45 | infernix | abrotman: someday i need you to dump your brains factiod database for me |
| 21:12.47 | abrotman | !tell infernix about your factoids |
| 21:12.49 | wols | kharcore: dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:12.57 | wols | apt can get you the nneded sources + dependencies tho |
| 21:12.59 | asim | How can I disable DHCP and make my computer use a certain (private) IP everytime ? I haven't used linux in SO long. :| |
| 21:13.06 | kharcore | thanks abrotman and wols |
| 21:13.10 | wols | asim: man interfaces |
| 21:13.13 | infernix | abrotman: there's a factoid list? |
| 21:13.18 | fireba11 | asim edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:13.39 | lunitik | abrotman: as bad as? care to elaborate? :o |
| 21:13.43 | wols | asim: and after editing /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 21:13.48 | abrotman | infernix: it's a database .. and yes there's a website |
| 21:14.12 | lunitik | asim: man interfaces ... see examples section if you're in a hurry |
| 21:14.21 | asim | thanks lunitik |
| 21:14.25 | wols | abrotman: take a girl with you. then it's a wrothwhile movie |
| 21:14.31 | Zweideutig | WTF |
| 21:14.39 | amortvigil | how can i download DRXX SVGA driver? |
| 21:14.40 | abrotman | wols: i am .. but not a date .. ask me to explain later |
| 21:14.43 | peterS | wols: no, then the girl pays no attention to _you_ because it's depp (: |
| 21:14.53 | Zweideutig | My Debian machine died just as I was saving my essay in OpenOffice. |
| 21:15.02 | lunitik | wols: only problem with that... being quizzed after about what it was about :o |
| 21:15.07 | wols | peterS: but she will be in a romantic mood afterwards. who cares about the movie? |
| 21:15.25 | Zweideutig | I don't think my laptop's battery died because I had it plugged in. |
| 21:15.32 | MorbusIff | why would a package be "kept back"? |
| 21:15.43 | peterS | MorbusIff: like what package? |
| 21:15.45 | lunitik | MorbusIff: why does it say its holding it back |
| 21:15.59 | MorbusIff | it doesn't say why on just an "apt-get upgrade". |
| 21:16.04 | MorbusIff | how would i get more info? |
| 21:16.23 | peterS | MorbusIff: run aptitude interactively, select an upgrade with U, then hit 'b' to see what if anything is broken by that |
| 21:16.33 | wols | amortvigil: there is no such thing afaik. there is vesa but you already said this wouldn't work |
| 21:16.38 | peterS | and hit 'g' to see what it will and won't upgrade, install, remove |
| 21:16.45 | MorbusIff | well, maybe this will help. i have mysql4.1 from debian sarge installed. i just added dotdeb to my source list, which also has mysql4.1 packages. |
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| 21:17.24 | kharcore | how can I donwload something from mentors? |
| 21:17.31 | kharcore | is it lock up or something? |
| 21:17.32 | peterS | so, beside the fact that aptitude does dependency resolution in a somewhat more intelligent way than apt-get, running it interactively is the best way I know to get information about what it intends to do and why. |
| 21:17.47 | kharcore | I don't find my package in there despite the forums sayign that's available in there |
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| 21:18.09 | lunitik | Just start kissing her or something, she'll get the hint... why waste $10 :P |
| 21:18.34 | ry1 | lunitik: do you have any experience with wifi in debian? more spacifically, what's a good app if I want to search for and connect to a wlan in windows fassion? |
| 21:18.45 | enouf | lunitiK : wtf? |
| 21:19.09 | enouf | ahh...okie - yeah then |
| 21:19.27 | lunitik | enouf: I'm pretty sure I'm meandering into umm... not good for #debian discussions :o |
| 21:19.36 | ry1 | :) |
| 21:19.36 | enouf | ry1: wireless-tools |
| 21:19.44 | ry1 | enouf: is it command line? |
| 21:19.48 | kharcore | I think it's here the package I am looking for Received: from localhost (on.debian.linux.org.pl [80.48.213.222]) |
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| 21:20.16 | enouf | ry1: that's all I know -- I have them but have no wifi .. so I'm not sure :-( |
| 21:20.25 | amortvigil | wols it uses the ct65545 chipset |
| 21:20.35 | amortvigil | graphic chipset |
| 21:20.35 | ry1 | enouf: thanks :) |
| 21:21.08 | kharcore | does anyone have any idea where on earth packages lie on mentors? |
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| 21:21.31 | enouf | ry1: I can spit out some keywords is all -- ok madwifi, ndiswrapper, wlan0, iwconfig |
| 21:21.36 | anders__ | !nvidia one-liner |
| 21:21.36 | dpkg_ | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
| 21:22.03 | lunitik | ry1: I'd use network-manager-{gnome,kde} |
| 21:22.05 | tuv | ry1, wireless-tools is essential to get wireless working. there are some graphical interfaces, but /etc/network/interfaces is superior to all |
| 21:22.21 | ry1 | enouf: thanks, already have madwifi installed and lunitik: I am totally blind, who needs gnome or kde? :) |
| 21:22.21 | anders__ | how do i come into the sources list file? |
| 21:22.27 | kharcore | help... how may I dl a package from the freaking mentors? |
| 21:22.53 | lunitik | ry1: ahh, I forgot... well, there is network-manager itself too :P |
| 21:22.55 | enouf | ry1: I recall, congrats on your kernel and alsa achievements ;-) |
| 21:23.21 | tuv | anders__, nano /etc/apt/sources.list (as root) |
| 21:24.10 | anders__ | tuv: ty, do u think i can clock my graphic card so it goes fast..? |
| 21:24.13 | anders__ | faster? |
| 21:24.19 | wols | amortvigil: driver is "chips" |
| 21:24.23 | enouf | ry1: find out your card and chip -- use lsmod, perhaps lshw, dmesg, dmidecode and hwinfo |
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| 21:24.27 | tuv | anders__, i've no idea |
| 21:24.30 | wols | amortvigil: make of yours is "chips and technoligies" |
| 21:24.38 | wols | *technologies" |
| 21:25.01 | ry1 | enouf: thanks, I even upgraded to etch in the process, though I feel bad because I started ranting at abrotman last night due to my frustration over ppg not working properly and not being to send him the error file because "scp" stopped working on my box, it turns out that my dhcp lease expired and I didn't have an unrecoverable network problem like I had thought. and, my wifi card is a dlink dwl-g650 card, atheros chipset |
| 21:25.14 | ry1 | rev: b5 |
| 21:25.51 | enouf | ry1: ahhh...great, you have the hardest part of wifi done then IMHO :-) |
| 21:25.53 | tuv | ry1, what's your problem with your wifi card? |
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| 21:26.11 | ry1 | tuv: no problem, I just want to be able to see what aps are near by without using a gui |
| 21:26.11 | pygo | Acquire { |
| 21:26.12 | pygo | http { |
| 21:26.12 | pygo | Proxy "http://10.1.1.1:3128"; |
| 21:26.12 | pygo | }; |
| 21:26.12 | pygo | ftp { |
| 21:26.13 | *** kick/#debian [pygo!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
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| 21:26.22 | ry1 | tuv: and then connect to them |
| 21:26.27 | pygo | }; is this apt.conf correct ? |
| 21:26.29 | Bry2k200 | anyone got a repository where i can download superkaramba? |
| 21:26.29 | tuv | ry1, iwlist <if-name> scan |
| 21:26.39 | Bry2k200 | err, install |
| 21:26.39 | Bry2k200 | hehe |
| 21:26.51 | enouf | !tell pygo about paster |
| 21:27.01 | pygo | !tell |
| 21:27.03 | tuv | ry1, then pick one and do: iwconfig <if-name> essid <network-essid-as-shown-in-iwlist> |
| 21:27.49 | ry1 | tuv: thanks, what if it is protected? will it ask me for the pass? |
| 21:28.14 | enouf | tuv: does ry1 need to do an update-pciids you think? |
| 21:28.15 | tuv | ry1, better yet, put the essid in your /etc/network/interfaces file. read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian |
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| 21:28.40 | ry1 | tuv: thanks, will do |
| 21:28.45 | tuv | enouf, what for? if he can see his interface in iwconfig then he's fine |
| 21:28.56 | enouf | tuv: right -- ok |
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| 21:29.19 | tuv | ry1, man iwconfig to see how to set the key interactively. again, interfaces is better for long-term setup |
| 21:29.25 | Festyur | cant run azureus in debian |
| 21:29.39 | Festyur | Internal error: caught an unexpected exception. Please check your CLASSPATH and your installation. java/lang/NullPointerException |
| 21:30.37 | pygo | which is hhtp proxy and ftp proxy for apt.conf ? |
| 21:30.45 | tuv | Festyur, i stopped using debian's azureus long time ago :) |
| 21:31.08 | enouf | pygo: man apt_preferences |
| 21:31.10 | psychonate | rtorrent is nice |
| 21:31.14 | k-man | is there a guide somewhere on enabling the multi media keys on my keyboarD? |
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| 21:31.34 | stoned | k-man, yes! |
| 21:31.38 | stoned | !keytouch |
| 21:31.38 | lunitik | k-man: hotkeys or kmilo |
| 21:31.38 | dpkg_ | i heard keytouch is a program which allows you to easily configure and define the EXTRA keys on your Multimedia/Internet ready keyboard with absolute ease. Get those keys working now! http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.html |
| 21:31.40 | ry1 | got another quick question. ever since I migrated to 2.6, I have had to run dhclient every time I boot, otherwise the laptop doesn't make it onto the network, is there a reason for this? IPV6 and it's privacy extentions are not in my kernel what so ever |
| 21:31.55 | stoned | k-man, /msg dpkg keytouch |
| 21:32.01 | k-man | thanks |
| 21:32.05 | tuv | Festyur, i installed azureus manually in /opt |
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| 21:32.16 | amphi | Festyur: install a current sun jre with make-jpkg, and you can replace the debian azureus with the current stable from sourceforge trivially |
| 21:32.29 | DeathWo1f | hum, how can one select lines like every 5 lines in a file in a shell? |
| 21:32.44 | tuv | ry1, is that for a wired or wireless interface? |
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| 21:33.07 | k-man | keytouch doesn't appear to be in testing |
| 21:33.10 | ry1 | tuv: wired, I have a PCMCIA ethernet card and a wireless one that I swap back and forth as needed |
| 21:33.49 | ry1 | tuv: it's like it doesn't start network services at bootup, could it be that I modularized too much? |
| 21:33.49 | tuv | ry1, might have something to do with being PCMCIA. never used any of those. do you have "auto" next to the interface name in your interfaces file? |
| 21:33.52 | enouf | pygo: whooops -- man apt.conf and apt_preferences |
| 21:34.40 | ry1 | tuv: the interfaces file was where in /etc? |
| 21:34.51 | tuv | ry1, /etc/network |
| 21:35.19 | afaik | http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/ancient/AncientRepublish_1675573.htm |
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| 21:35.25 | afaik | cute little spide |
| 21:35.28 | afaik | *spider |
| 21:35.33 | stoned | lol |
| 21:35.49 | ry1 | tuv: it's listed as hotplugable |
| 21:35.53 | stoned | that thing is disgusting |
| 21:35.58 | stoned | ugh, all goey and wet looking |
| 21:36.00 | stoned | nasty |
| 21:36.05 | afaik | hehehe |
| 21:36.11 | ry1 | but the primary interface is listed as eth0 with dhcp |
| 21:36.17 | ry1 | but I get no dhcp |
| 21:36.25 | afaik | "They are very weird looking animals" ;) |
| 21:36.25 | pygo | enouf, it only wanted to know the, why mine it is Proxy "http://10.1.1.1:3128" is this correct ? |
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| 21:37.41 | tuv | ry1, it could be that networking is brought up before pcmcia devices are.. as i said, i've absolutely no experience with pcmcia |
| 21:38.20 | pygo | enouf, it only wanted to know the ip, why mine it is Proxy "http://10.1.1.1:3128" is this correct ? |
| 21:38.22 | ry1 | tuv: thanks anyways :) |
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| 21:41.03 | enouf | pygo: I don't know -- that seems like a uni LAN/WAN address ...or wifi -- I think all 10.x are private addreses, meaning non-internet - the format doesn't look entirely correct - I wouldn't know what your correct address would be |
| 21:41.07 | kharcore | I am trying to uncmopress a .tar.bz2 file with tar and isn't working in any way |
| 21:41.27 | kharcore | I have this answer tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory |
| 21:41.32 | XSoul | hello team |
| 21:41.45 | XSoul | anyone can help me to run ati fglrx driver with 3d support under debian ? |
| 21:41.48 | Kvant | kharcore, do: apt-get install bzip2 |
| 21:42.18 | kharcore | Kvant: mm... aha |
| 21:42.45 | ry1 | tuv: apparently my ath0 or wifi0 interfaces don't support scanning |
| 21:42.49 | XSoul | anyone with ati 3d experiance here ? |
| 21:43.08 | tuv | ry1, they do. you may need to "ifconfig ath0 up" first |
| 21:43.10 | pygo | enouf, which IP is in its apt.conf ? |
| 21:43.43 | enouf | pygo: I don't use apt.conf -- do you know why you need it ? |
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| 21:43.49 | tuv | XSoul, i've a bad experience there, if you must know :/ |
| 21:44.05 | XSoul | tuv : can you help me ? |
| 21:44.05 | ktwilight | i got a corrupted dpkg, i did a dpkg --configure -a and i have the following error message |
| 21:44.06 | ktwilight | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1: |
| 21:44.06 | ktwilight | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.11 | ktwilight | what should i do? |
| 21:44.35 | tuv | XSoul, use module-assistant to build the fglrx driver |
| 21:44.52 | XSoul | i build it with make-kpkg |
| 21:44.53 | enouf | ry1: d/l those hardware tools I mentioed earlier - just to have - they can give you a ton of system info |
| 21:44.54 | itchi | XSoul: Run you Sarge? |
| 21:44.59 | XSoul | and get the deb package |
| 21:45.06 | XSoul | itchi : run on sid |
| 21:45.10 | pygo | enouf, which IP I have that for in mine apt.conf |
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| 21:45.19 | ry1 | tuv: turns out that the version of madwifi I built into the kernel is one number higher than the backports release of wireless-tools |
| 21:45.48 | ry1 | enouf: done |
| 21:45.53 | hjubal | bye |
| 21:45.59 | tuv | ry1, there is madwifi-source in debian that should build nicely with module-assistant |
| 21:46.05 | pygo | enouf, mineapt-get it is not connecting |
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| 21:46.17 | tuv | XSoul, do you have fglrx-driver installed? |
| 21:46.18 | enouf | pygo: I'm having a little trouble understanding you - do you need (want to try) a differnet language debian channel perhaps? |
| 21:46.30 | XSoul | tuv : yes I have it |
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| 21:46.42 | tuv | XSoul, so what happens when you start X? |
| 21:46.43 | enouf | pygo: Oh Ok - apt-get isn't working |
| 21:46.55 | XSoul | tuv the only one problem is that fglrx is in kernel/misc directory |
| 21:46.55 | enouf | ry1 :-)) |
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| 21:47.10 | tuv | XSoul, how is that a problem? |
| 21:47.18 | XSoul | tuv update-modules don't update the script and can't load it with modpreobe |
| 21:47.22 | ry1 | tuv: do I have to recompile my kernel again for this? |
| 21:47.23 | enouf | pygo: Do you have Internet at all ? |
| 21:47.25 | XSoul | ok i load it with insmod . |
| 21:47.35 | tuv | XSoul, so move it to where it should be |
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| 21:47.39 | enouf | pygo: Can you get to google.com? |
| 21:47.47 | XSoul | x start successfully but fgltinfo show only mesa support |
| 21:47.50 | XSoul | not opengl |
| 21:48.10 | tuv | XSoul, if you build it correctly with make-kpkg, it should be in the right place. modprobe should be able to load it |
| 21:48.28 | tuv | XSoul, look at X logs |
| 21:48.46 | tuv | XSoul, btw, what is your chip/card? |
| 21:49.01 | tuv | XSoul, is it IGP? |
| 21:49.10 | XSoul | tuv ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M] |
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| 21:49.34 | kharcore | is DirectFB in debian libdirectfb? |
| 21:49.37 | pygo | enouf, apt-get is off ? |
| 21:49.57 | tuv | XSoul, what do the logs say? |
| 21:49.59 | kharcore | I am trying to get this but I don't find the respective pacakge with that name otherwise ilbdirectfb |
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| 21:50.37 | XSoul | log looks normal . if I load the fglrx info the module is used |
| 21:50.42 | XSoul | but only with mesa support |
| 21:50.53 | scrooge_74 | /leave |
| 21:50.55 | enouf | pygo: Can you tell me your main speaking native language? I don't think you are understanding me well either |
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| 21:51.23 | k31th | guys, are there any commandline sort of front ends for firewall (if i was on redhat based box id type setup then config some basic firewall rules there). |
| 21:51.34 | jnjb | hello i look for an softwear for wpa2 since 2 weeks! someone can help me |
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| 21:52.31 | allix | anyone here compiled VICE on a 64 bit distro? |
| 21:52.52 | pygo | enouf, wanted to know which IP I have that for in proxy http proxy ftp for apt.conf |
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| 21:55.19 | kharcore | does anyone know where mentors packages are? |
| 21:55.24 | kharcore | that would save a lot of time |
| 21:55.33 | kharcore | instead of making a risky manual compile |
| 21:55.48 | anders__ | can anyone help me to install java? :D |
| 21:56.05 | itchi | !ping |
| 21:56.06 | dpkg_ | pong |
| 21:56.09 | ry1 | tuv: so it's better to use madwifi0.7 rather than .92? |
| 21:56.10 | itchi | okay _ |
| 21:56.18 | enouf | !proxy |
| 21:56.18 | dpkg_ | i heard proxy is This is commonly a form of Internet security. You can use a proxy or proxy server to pass data between your internal network and the Internet. A machine on your network sends a request to the proxy. The proxy sends the request to a server on the Internet. Thus, it stands in for the computer on your network. The server on the Internet never knows that the request is coming from anywhere but the proxy. Thus 100 machines on your network ... |
| 21:56.34 | anders__ | !java |
| 21:56.34 | enouf | pygo ^^^^ |
| 21:56.34 | dpkg_ | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 21:56.40 | anders__ | !install java |
| 21:56.40 | dpkg_ | somebody said install java was First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 21:56.47 | k31th | Wat do yu guys use to monitor network interfaces etc osome thing like mrtg?? |
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| 21:56.59 | anders__ | !java-package |
| 21:57.00 | dpkg_ | java-package is probably a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 21:57.05 | enouf | anders__ you can /msg the bot yourself |
| 21:57.07 | anders__ | nope |
| 21:57.10 | anders__ | it dosnt answer |
| 21:57.17 | enouf | Me neither |
| 21:57.19 | tuv | ry1, madwifi-source version in apt is 0.svnr1644.0.9.0-2 |
| 21:57.22 | lac | how do I find out what video card this machine is running? |
| 21:57.26 | enouf | So I tried ravenbird |
| 21:57.57 | ry1 | tuv: thanks, and will it allow me to downgrade the madwifi module already in my kernel? |
| 21:58.22 | enouf | but yeah - it wasn't woking as /msg -- until I saw you /someone trigger it - figured it was resting :-p then awoke |
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| 21:58.31 | enouf | working* |
| 21:58.39 | itchi | Yup, the bot have some troubles it's look; he not anser in PM |
| 21:58.43 | tuv | ry1, it's better to uninstall the one you have installed now before you install the new one. if both are .deb's then this will probably be automatically done |
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| 21:58.56 | tuv | XSoul, what does glxinfo show next to "server glx vendor string:" |
| 21:59.00 | ry1 | tuv: the other was compiled into kernel from source |
| 21:59.13 | lac | !video card |
| 21:59.14 | dpkg_ | video card is, like, A device in computers that deals specifically with displaying to a monitor. Without one, you cannot see what's going on in your computer and may have to resort to the ancient method of using a printer as a monitor. |
| 21:59.14 | k31th | Wat do yu guys use to monitor network interfaces etc osome thing like mrtg?? |
| 21:59.17 | tuv | ry1, then remove it manually |
| 21:59.25 | ry1 | could you please do that as PM? |
| 21:59.27 | XSoul | tuv : http://rafb.net/paste/results/PnpGTJ55.html |
| 21:59.30 | ry1 | tuv: how? |
| 21:59.42 | ry1 | tuv: or, what should I look up? |
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| 22:00.04 | lac | !detect video card |
| 22:00.11 | anders__ | !java-package |
| 22:00.11 | dpkg_ | well, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 22:00.28 | tuv | ry1, if you installed it with "make install" then look at the makefile to find out where it was installed and rm the .ko file in the kernel modules tree |
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| 22:00.58 | anders__ | /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found |
| 22:01.01 | enouf | lac: dmesg | grep VGA |
| 22:01.01 | anders__ | how do i fix that problem? |
| 22:01.12 | ry1 | tuv: thanks, and then after that I use module assistant to give me a new ath module? |
| 22:01.15 | tuv | XSoul, it says "NVIDIA Corporation" !!! do you have any nvidia* package installed |
| 22:01.22 | tuv | ry1, exactly |
| 22:01.38 | tuv | ry1, make sure you unload the module before you uninstall it |
| 22:01.43 | XSoul | no i don't .. this is the problem |
| 22:01.51 | XSoul | tuv : i never install nvidia driver . |
| 22:01.52 | lac | enouf: it says 'Console: colour VGConsole: colour VGA+ 80x25 |
| 22:01.52 | lac | A+ 80x25 |
| 22:02.19 | enouf | lac: I just realized I goofe -- use lshw - or dmidecode and lspci |
| 22:02.23 | anders__ | how do i fakeroot? |
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| 22:03.12 | tuv | XSoul, it seems to me like you have nvidia-glx installed ! |
| 22:03.45 | peterS | anders__: it's a package. why do you think you need it? |
| 22:03.53 | anders__ | to install my java? |
| 22:04.00 | anders__ | fakeroot make-jpkg jre- |
| 22:04.01 | anders__ | .. |
| 22:04.07 | Thanatermesis | is fglrx broken for ETCH ? |
| 22:04.11 | lac | enouf: thank you. |
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| 22:04.30 | enouf | lac: 'lspci' -- for more info 'lspci -v' - this is usually already installed the others, like dmidecode, lshw, hwinfo are not - butb yu should be able to easily 'apt-get install <packagename>' ...ok - welcome |
| 22:04.42 | lac | Also dmesg says: 'pcmcia: Detected deprecated PCMCIA ioctl usage. |
| 22:04.42 | lac | pcmcia: This interface will soon be removed from the kernel; please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new tools. |
| 22:04.55 | anders__ | peterS: what can be wrong..? |
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| 22:05.12 | ry1 | hat's the equivalent to rmod in debian? |
| 22:05.15 | ry1 | what* |
| 22:05.18 | XSoul | tuv . no i never install nvidia stuff on this pc |
| 22:05.26 | XSoul | glxinfo is very strange output for me |
| 22:05.34 | sanmarcos | ry1, mmod? |
| 22:05.35 | lac | do i have to do anything special to get these new tools, or will this happen automatically if I just use a newer kernel? |
| 22:05.38 | XSoul | if come when I install ati driver |
| 22:05.40 | peterS | anders__: I don't know what could be wrong. I don't use java, at all. |
| 22:05.41 | sanmarcos | ry1, rmmod sorry, as root |
| 22:05.43 | enouf | lac: hmmm - I don;t know much about PCMCIA, but it's through the PCI bus and either 16bit (old) or 32bit (newer, and caklled CardBus and PCcard) |
| 22:05.56 | ry1 | ah, missed an m, thanks :) |
| 22:06.07 | enouf | lac: which Kerenl now and which Debian vcersion |
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| 22:06.26 | ry1 | tuv: just my luck, I can't unload modules because I forgot to compile that option in |
| 22:06.31 | ry1 | lol |
| 22:06.34 | lac | Linux version 2.6.15-1-686 (Debian 2.6.15-8) |
| 22:06.55 | tuv | ry1, are you using a custom kernel and not a debian kernel? |
| 22:06.59 | ry1 | tuv: yes |
| 22:07.09 | tuv | ry1, why??? |
| 22:07.12 | ry1 | tuv: stock kernels don't come with my screen reader, |
| 22:07.16 | enouf | lac: apt-cache show <packagename> to see info about the package...use 'apt-get -s install hwinfo' (for ex: to simulate installation (dry run) |
| 22:07.27 | tuv | ry1, screen reader?? |
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| 22:07.53 | tuv | ry1, what is your screen reader?? |
| 22:08.11 | ry1 | tuv: sorry, what I meant to say, is that I use speakup as a screen reader due to my blindness, but of all the debian stock speakup kernels, there are none that come with speakup and all the header files so I could compile madwifi into it. |
| 22:08.13 | enouf | lac: should be no prob for any of those I mentioned -- you maybe even have 'lshal' - try it and see |
| 22:08.39 | tuv | ry1, oh |
| 22:09.00 | ry1 | tuv: so not only can I not unload modules, but I can't remove madwifi either because it has been patched from source right into the kernel tree itself |
| 22:09.11 | ry1 | grrr |
| 22:09.35 | tuv | XSoul, what is the output of: "dpkg -S /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" |
| 22:09.43 | enouf | ry1: now now .. no worry - we fix :-) |
| 22:10.01 | XSoul | tuv : xserver-xorg-core: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so |
| 22:10.29 | tuv | XSoul, do you have any other file in that directory starting with libglx.so* |
| 22:10.38 | ry1 | enouf: don't worry, I'm used to recompiling, have had to do it 13 times to get sound and everything else working the way I want it |
| 22:10.41 | XSoul | tuv sec |
| 22:10.58 | enouf | ry1 : I hope ... anyway you've gotten along quite far so far - I haven't even attempted compiling my own kernel yet |
| 22:11.07 | tuv | ry1, good for you to keep count :) |
| 22:11.20 | ry1 | enouf: it's quite a learning experience and tuv: it's hard not to, at two hours a compile |
| 22:11.20 | XSoul | tuv : libGLcore.so libdbe.so libdri.so libextmod.so libglx.so librecord.so libxtrap.so |
| 22:11.24 | enouf | ry1 : hey you're now a seasoned compiler :-) |
| 22:11.54 | ry1 | enouf: no kidding, though I think I should make a bash script that does my kpkg for me :) |
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| 22:12.29 | asim | Is there a command that will tell me my public IP address? |
| 22:12.47 | tuv | XSoul, are you sure your chip is supported by the fglrx driver? there is a comprehensive list of supported hardware in X log file. please confirm |
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| 22:13.05 | XSoul | yes ati put this chip in the site driver |
| 22:13.29 | sl1ck | hi |
| 22:13.30 | enouf | ry1 : and there ya go... |
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| 22:13.44 | anders__ | i need som help with my torrent program |
| 22:13.49 | anders__ | azureus! |
| 22:13.56 | kharcore | ls |
| 22:14.04 | kharcore | why do I get this E: Unable to find a source package for qingy-0.9.0 |
| 22:14.09 | tuv | XSoul, can you find it in the X log file? |
| 22:14.15 | sl1ck | is it possible to use openvpn to connect to a Checkpoint VPN1 server? |
| 22:14.15 | anders__ | I have downloaded sun.java, and now, when i shall install azureus i get this: You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com |
| 22:14.27 | kharcore | where in the source I am supposed to be? |
| 22:14.30 | XSoul | sec to try this |
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| 22:15.02 | asim | Is there a command that will tell me my public IP address? it's not in /sbin/ifconfig eth0 :\ |
| 22:15.22 | tuv | anders__, did you create a .deb file out of your sun's download or you just installed what you downloaded directly? i.e. did you use make-jpkg command? |
| 22:15.46 | tuv | asim, http://www.whatismyip.org/ |
| 22:15.50 | kharcore | I am doing something similar yet this isn't recognizing anything |
| 22:15.56 | cydork | anders__, first of all what tuv said. and second of all azureus sucks! |
| 22:15.57 | anders__ | tuv: yes |
| 22:16.01 | kharcore | E: Unable to find a source package for qingy-0.9.0 |
| 22:16.08 | anders__ | cydork: what torrent shall i use then? |
| 22:16.09 | anders__ | for debian |
| 22:16.16 | kharcore | where on the folder I am supposed to stay? |
| 22:16.27 | tuv | anders__, i'm happily using azureus |
| 22:16.30 | kharcore | I am running this command netmesh:/home/ossso# apt-get source qingy-0.9.0 && apt-get build-dep qingy-0.9.0 |
| 22:16.41 | tuv | anders__, what does java -v show? |
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| 22:16.54 | anders__ | tuv: speak in priv |
| 22:16.55 | tuv | anders__, sorry, java -version |
| 22:16.56 | XSoul | tuv . my error .this output was via ssh . w8 to paste the correct glxingo |
| 22:17.07 | sl1ck | kharcore: probably you don't have the src in your apt conf |
| 22:17.12 | _Atomo64_ | what happened to mysql 4.1 in etch? |
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| 22:17.22 | kharcore | sl1ck: how do I get that? |
| 22:17.28 | anders__ | tuv: shall i write that? |
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| 22:17.44 | kharcore | sl1ck: I have the package there I donwloaded form the webpage |
| 22:17.58 | tuv | anders__, you can paste it. it shouldn't be more than 3 lines |
| 22:18.08 | anders__ | bash: java: command not found |
| 22:18.09 | anders__ | .P |
| 22:18.13 | zood | !dpkg |
| 22:18.14 | dpkg_ | [dpkg] the base of the Debian package management system. It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993. dpkg is similar to RPM, as it is used to install, remove, and provide information about deb packages. dpkg itself is a low level tool; higher level tools, such as APT, are used to fetch packages from remote locations or deal with complex package relations. see also <apt-get>, <apt>, and <aptitude>, or really cool |
| 22:18.27 | anders__ | i wrote java -version |
| 22:18.31 | anders__ | shall i be as root? |
| 22:18.41 | tuv | anders__, then you didn't install sun's java correctly. what exactly did you do? |
| 22:18.48 | anders__ | !java package |
| 22:18.48 | dpkg_ | extra, extra, read all about it, java package is <replay> see java-package |
| 22:18.50 | tuv | anders__, no. you don't have to be root at all |
| 22:18.54 | anders__ | !java-package |
| 22:18.54 | dpkg_ | from memory, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 22:18.59 | anders__ | tuv: that guide i followed |
| 22:19.07 | anders__ | first apt-get install java-package |
| 22:19.13 | anders__ | then i downloaded the JRE |
| 22:19.24 | anders__ | sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update08_i386.deb |
| 22:19.32 | anders__ | then i did fakeroot make-jpg jre.. |
| 22:19.33 | kharcore | how about me I am trying to run this command apt-get source qingy-0.9.0 && apt-get build-dep qingy-0.9.0 and isnt working |
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| 22:19.48 | tuv | anders__, what does "dpkg -l | grep sun" tell you? |
| 22:19.54 | anders__ | ill se .) |
| 22:20.03 | anders__ | weird |
| 22:20.04 | anders__ | nothing |
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| 22:20.52 | cydork | anders__, i use bittorrent and i love it. |
| 22:20.54 | tuv | anders__, did you do that last step: "dpkg -i *.deb" in the directory where the java .deb was created? |
| 22:21.01 | anders__ | nope |
| 22:21.02 | anders__ | :S |
| 22:21.03 | anders__ | command? |
| 22:21.11 | kharcore | !source |
| 22:21.11 | dpkg_ | extra, extra, read all about it, source is To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 22:21.11 | mhall | I *HATE* Sun Java CLI options. They're *so* brain-dead. |
| 22:21.24 | kharcore | that isn't working |
| 22:21.32 | anders__ | dpkg -i ?sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update08_i386.deb |
| 22:21.36 | cydork | mhall, i agree... they eat lot of memory too.. |
| 22:21.45 | dilation | mhall: hahahahahaha |
| 22:21.52 | dilation | mhall: :)) I agree |
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| 22:22.07 | sl1ck | kharcore: if you downloaded the source you don't need to run apt-get source |
| 22:22.26 | kharcore | sl1ck: aha... so what I am supposed to run now? |
| 22:22.37 | XSoul | tuv .http://rafb.net/paste/results/EMgzJ036.html .. look this please |
| 22:22.47 | cydork | !source |
| 22:22.47 | dpkg_ | i guess source is To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 22:22.55 | cydork | kharcore, ^^ |
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| 22:23.28 | kharcore | cydork: I know but... I guess this one dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
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| 22:23.32 | _Atomo64_ | do there is a deb pack for the winetools? |
| 22:23.39 | jaggz- | How do I keep fsck from asking the root password when it hits a problem in our ext3 fs at boot? |
| 22:23.58 | dilation | _Atomo64_: apt-get install wine-utils |
| 22:24.08 | cydork | jaggz-, believe me it's for your own good :P |
| 22:24.11 | sl1ck | is it possible to use openvpn to connect to a Checkpoint VPN server? |
| 22:24.28 | anders__ | tuv: will it work now? |
| 22:24.28 | jaggz- | cydork, but each time there's a problem we have our ISP put in the root pw and let fsck run |
| 22:24.30 | jaggz- | it never varies |
| 22:24.43 | jaggz- | systems are reboot once every few months or usually more.. |
| 22:24.48 | dilation | jaggz-: reduce the number of problems |
| 22:24.52 | kharcore | dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 22:24.54 | tuv | anders__, it takes you as much effort to type "java -version" as to ask this question :) |
| 22:24.55 | kharcore | dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is |
| 22:24.57 | kharcore | something is wrong |
| 22:24.57 | jaggz- | not sure why it gets an fs problem at all, but I'm assuming periodic bugs in ext3? |
| 22:25.00 | anders__ | it worked |
| 22:25.03 | anders__ | i started azureus ;) |
| 22:25.06 | aarkerio | HI! somebody knows a good webhosting service? |
| 22:25.28 | dilation | aarkerio: myspace :D |
| 22:25.38 | cydork | anders__, not for long, believe me you will hate it soon :P |
| 22:25.43 | tuv | aardvarq, use a syndns service with your own machine ;) |
| 22:25.47 | jaggz- | dilation, any tips on that? |
| 22:25.48 | anders__ | sry i wont |
| 22:25.49 | tuv | dyndns* |
| 22:25.50 | anders__ | i had it before |
| 22:25.51 | anders__ | :P |
| 22:25.55 | anders__ | 6months ago |
| 22:25.55 | anders__ | :P |
| 22:26.00 | aardvarq | ? |
| 22:26.14 | _Atomo64_ | dilation: wine-utils!=winetools, is it? winetools http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/ |
| 22:26.19 | kharcore | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot isn't working |
| 22:26.20 | aardvarq | I do know a good dyndns service. :) |
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| 22:26.21 | kharcore | why? |
| 22:26.35 | aarkerio | HI! somebody knows a good webhosting service with database? |
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| 22:26.46 | jaggz- | the system is restarted, not reboot. the drives are unmounted so it should be clean. The drives, not being tested in so long, want fsck ran and when it is they find a few problems here and there |
| 22:26.54 | aardvarq | aarkerio: http://www.epfarms.org/pricing.shtml |
| 22:27.09 | tuv | aardvarq, use a dyndns service with your own machine with mysql/postgresql installed ;) |
| 22:27.24 | kharcore | should I just use make && make install instead of the weird dpkg way? |
| 22:27.29 | dilation | _Atomo64_: oh, I see. sorry |
| 22:27.33 | aardvarq | tuv: don't you need to be running a DNS server on a static IP for that to work? |
| 22:27.38 | dilation | _Atomo64_: I don't know |
| 22:27.57 | kharcore | dpkg is clearly not worknig |
| 22:28.00 | tuv | aardvarq, no. that what's dyndns services do |
| 22:28.06 | kharcore | I cannot afford that |
| 22:28.36 | aardvarq | tuv: so you're saying use a CLIENT on your own machine? |
| 22:28.41 | aardvarq | Isn't that what clients are for? :) |
| 22:28.42 | _Atomo64_ | kharcore: dpkg works at oftc |
| 22:28.42 | ry1 | tuv: it turns out the scan module wasn't loaded |
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| 22:28.46 | tuv | aardvarq, you only need to run a dyndns client to keep updating the dyndns service with your ip |
| 22:28.47 | ry1 | I'm lucky this time |
| 22:29.01 | sl1ck | kharcore: isn't the .deb good for you? |
| 22:29.01 | kharcore | _Atomo64_: what's oftc? |
| 22:29.15 | cydork | !oftc |
| 22:29.15 | dpkg_ | i heard oftc is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. See also <freenode> and <fact sharing> |
| 22:29.24 | kharcore | sl1ck: I don't have a .deb pacakge for that one that's why I am trying to build one |
| 22:30.04 | aardvarq | tuv: Yes, that is what they are for. What is your point? |
| 22:30.05 | aardvarq | :) |
| 22:30.06 | Lightkey | irc.debian.org links to oftc |
| 22:30.16 | blondie | oftc sucks! dont go there |
| 22:30.20 | blondie | dont use irc.debian.org! |
| 22:30.22 | anders__ | tuv: what burning program do you recommend to gnome? or to debain? :P |
| 22:30.25 | Lightkey | haha |
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| 22:30.39 | naga44 | hey hey |
| 22:30.39 | blondie | :P |
| 22:30.48 | tuv | anders__, i use k3b myself. haven't found a decent gnome one yet |
| 22:30.54 | naga44 | i forgot the apt command that allows you to choose from different repos... |
| 22:31.01 | kharcore | what does oftc to do with installing something from source??? |
| 22:31.05 | naga44 | apt-configure or somthing like that?...any tell me? |
| 22:31.19 | tuv | aardvarq, my point: you don't need to pay anything for a hosting service. use your own machine |
| 22:31.20 | jelly-home | kharcore: that will work only for packages that are available as debian source packages. |
| 22:31.28 | kharcore | so I guess I have to install this package the manual way since dpkg and apt-get ain't doing the job |
| 22:31.33 | liable | naga44: apt-setup (only available in satge) |
| 22:31.43 | aardvarq | tuv: AAAHHH. You still need registration and DNS. :) |
| 22:31.44 | kharcore | jelly-home: aahhh... now I get it |
| 22:31.47 | naga44 | oh yeah!...why only in sarge?? |
| 22:31.53 | naga44 | hhmmm..thanks liable! |
| 22:32.08 | sl1ck | it would be cool to be able to make debs from any source using one command |
| 22:32.09 | kharcore | jelly-home: therefore I just do it the manual way? make && make install?? |
| 22:32.09 | aardvarq | And it won't work if you've got a big site, an unstable line, a slow line, or an unstable box. :) |
| 22:32.13 | naga44 | see yah! |
| 22:32.22 | liable | naga44: it was removed in etch, only available during install |
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| 22:32.33 | tuv | aardvarq, that depends on the url you want. dyndns services can provide you with a free dns name (although somewhat ugly!) |
| 22:32.35 | jelly-home | kharcore: yes. what are you trying to build anyway? |
| 22:33.04 | kharcore | jelly-home: a freaking small pacakge arch independant called qingy |
| 22:33.40 | anders__ | tuv: why is k3b good? |
| 22:33.44 | jelly-home | kharcore: did you install the appropriate *-dev packages first? |
| 22:34.07 | aardvarq | Well, it is true that with new movies using myspace url's in their trailers, ugly is in! :) |
| 22:34.08 | cydork | anders__, gnomebaker is not bad. |
| 22:34.14 | tuv | anders__, it's not necessarily good. it worked for me. you're free to try it and try the others and choose for yourself |
| 22:34.17 | kharcore | jelly-home: like which ones? |
| 22:34.18 | anders__ | can u burn iso files? :P |
| 22:34.28 | anders__ | iso/cd/dvd? |
| 22:34.31 | anders__ | on k3b? |
| 22:34.51 | cydork | anders__, and bonfire is there in testing and unstable i guess. |
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| 22:35.02 | cydork | anders__, yep |
| 22:35.03 | anders__ | iam downloading k3b atm |
| 22:35.13 | Knorrie | i usually burn iso files just by a right click in nautilus and choosing burn to cd? |
| 22:35.19 | jelly-home | kharcore: whatever your application requires to compile, most libraries should be already available in debian. |
| 22:35.20 | tuv | anders__, k3b can do anything, afaict |
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| 22:35.31 | JordiGH | I can't recognise all the eye-candy here. Is it all in Debian? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Screenshot-6.png |
| 22:36.23 | tuv | Knorrie, that must be a new feature |
| 22:36.24 | kharcore | jelly-home: yeah I've followed their guide and everything is in order, I am just stuck at whether to choose apt-get or dpkj or manual install |
| 22:36.28 | tuv | Knorrie, nice to know |
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| 22:36.41 | kharcore | jelly-home: could you help me giving me a green light? |
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| 22:37.00 | Crashed | nick |
| 22:37.02 | Crashed | Meh |
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| 22:37.42 | jelly-home | kharcore: where exactly are you stuck? |
| 22:38.13 | JordiGH | Is that a gterm with transparency on? And what's that thingie on the right with all sorts of pointless information? |
| 22:38.27 | kharcore | well since the source is directly dl from its website and not from any debina place I don't know what I am supposed to use in order to install this package |
| 22:38.37 | Knorrie | gdesklet stuff? |
| 22:38.42 | zood | How do I ask dpkg a question? Can't seem to remember... |
| 22:38.47 | JordiGH | dpkg, hi! |
| 22:38.47 | dpkg_ | hi |
| 22:38.55 | JordiGH | dpkg, help |
| 22:38.56 | jelly-home | kharcore: ./configure ... , make, make install then |
| 22:38.57 | Knorrie | zood: /query dpkg |
| 22:39.01 | tuv | XSoul, can you find anything in the X logs to confirm that the kernel module is loaded and interfacing correctly with the X driver (fglrx)? no direct rendering usually means trouble with the kernel module |
| 22:39.06 | zood | Knorrie: tnx |
| 22:39.11 | Knorrie | zood: will give you a private chat window |
| 22:39.18 | kharcore | jelly-home: thanks so much, finally :-) |
| 22:39.20 | XSoul | tuv : sec . may wrong path is the problem |
| 22:39.31 | JordiGH | Knorrie: Oh, you think it's gdesklets? And I thought Gnome was about visual austerity. This looks like superkaramba! |
| 22:39.32 | XSoul | tuv . wil reply soon . one sec |
| 22:39.41 | zood | Knorrie: doesn't seem to respond to me |
| 22:39.51 | Knorrie | zood: just type something to it |
| 22:40.08 | JordiGH | zood: If dpkg doesn't know what you're asking, it'll stay quiet. |
| 22:40.14 | JordiGH | dpkg, sex? |
| 22:40.14 | dpkg_ | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 22:40.23 | zood | exit |
| 22:40.32 | jelly-home | !search bin/gasp |
| 22:40.46 | JordiGH | Yeah, I've wondered about gasp too. Wtf is that? |
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| 22:41.16 | zood | Yah, it's very wierd, dpkg wont talk to me |
| 22:41.25 | jelly-home | !test |
| 22:41.25 | dpkg_ | Yes, jelly-home, you're still online. |
| 22:41.49 | zood | dpkg sane |
| 22:41.49 | dpkg_ | Scanner Access Now Easy makes scanning...easy, or http://www.sane-project.org/ |
| 22:42.22 | Knorrie | zood: perhaps freenode wont let you do a PM session when you nick isnt registered |
| 22:42.36 | zood | Knorrie: that could be it |
| 22:42.58 | tuv | my nick is registered and dpkg isn't reponding to me atm |
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| 22:43.11 | kharcore | what does this mean? configure: error: One or more system headers that are necessary to compile this program are missing on this system. Cannot continue. |
| 22:43.19 | tuv | it usually responds to me, but not now |
| 22:43.19 | kharcore | and how may I filled this gap? |
| 22:43.19 | JordiGH | Are you people /msging dpkg or dpkg_? |
| 22:43.39 | JordiGH | kharcore: What are you compiling and... |
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| 22:43.40 | JordiGH | !wayc |
| 22:43.41 | dpkg_ | methinks wayc is Why Are You Compiling (instead of using apt-get) |
| 22:44.00 | tuv | JordiGH, both won't respond to me |
| 22:44.14 | Knorrie | same here, both no response |
| 22:44.15 | kharcore | JordiGH: I am compiling qingy and got stuck at ./configure |
| 22:44.16 | zood | How do I install sane backends? (for scanning) |
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| 22:44.25 | JordiGH | !info qingy |
| 22:44.40 | Knorrie | !you're b0rk3d |
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| 22:44.48 | kharcore | by the way qingy is supposed to be available on mentors but I haven't found a place where it might be |
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| 22:45.06 | kharcore | !qingy |
| 22:45.27 | JordiGH | kharcore: Well, you're missing build dependencies. It looks like it's not a Debian package, so you'll have to figure out on your own what they are. Usually the INSTALL files gives a clue about build dependencies. Have you read it? |
| 22:45.39 | kharcore | JordiGH: here it is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=236706 |
| 22:45.50 | kharcore | JordiGH: good idea thanks |
| 22:46.35 | jelly-home | kharcore: have you installed the relevant -dev packages? |
| 22:46.57 | JordiGH | jelly-home: It's not a Debian package. |
| 22:47.00 | kharcore | jelly-home: what are those revlant -dev packages? |
| 22:47.08 | jelly-home | JordiGH: so? |
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| 22:47.18 | jelly-home | kharcore: read the faq. |
| 22:47.25 | kharcore | which faq? |
| 22:47.26 | JordiGH | jelly-home: Why would it have Debian -dev packages if it's not a Debian package? |
| 22:47.34 | jelly-home | kharcore: qingy's. |
| 22:48.06 | kharcore | jelly-home: I did and I did install those relevant packages.... perhaps I need to reboot or something |
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| 22:48.09 | jelly-home | JordiGH: it doesn't have packages, but it does have build dependencies... |
| 22:48.10 | XSoul | tuv . missing directory and link in the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules |
| 22:48.23 | m1ke_l | an apt-cache only shows lmsensors for 2.4 kernel |
| 22:48.26 | XSoul | tuv . this was the problem .. now via ln -s all looking fine .. |
| 22:48.30 | m1ke_l | are they "built into " 2.6? |
| 22:48.38 | XSoul | tuv : only update-modules is the problem now |
| 22:48.38 | m1ke_l | or, how can i talk with my laptop battery? |
| 22:48.42 | kharcore | but the error is this one configure: error: One or more system headers that are necessary to compile this program are missing on this system. Cannot continue. |
| 22:48.51 | tuv | XSoul, great |
| 22:49.00 | XSoul | tuv : can't find fglrx module in the misc directory . do you know why |
| 22:49.01 | JordiGH | kharcore: Pretty much the only time you ever need to reboot is you've messed around with the Linux kernel. |
| 22:49.11 | XSoul | tuv I can load it only via insmod . not with modprobe |
| 22:49.39 | jelly-home | kharcore: nope, if it's still complaining that it can't find a library of something, maybe their documentation is outdated. paste the exact error you get (not here, of course) |
| 22:49.50 | JordiGH | kharcore: And that doesn't hold for modules you add on to the kernel. Those can be configured without a need to reboot. |
| 22:49.55 | tuv | XSoul, not sure. but you can move it to somewhere else in the kernel modules tree where modprobe can find it |
| 22:50.10 | XSoul | yes i test that but the same |
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| 22:50.17 | XSoul | not detect |
| 22:50.21 | jelly-home | kharcore: the complete output of ./configure might be more helpful. |
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| 22:50.28 | kharcore | JordiGH: mmm.... ok |
| 22:50.29 | JordiGH | Or the tail, rather... |
| 22:50.30 | kharcore | hold on |
| 22:51.03 | tuv | XSoul, usually update-modules (several times sometimes) helps modprobe locate modules |
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| 22:51.30 | Festyur | why does synaptic look this way? http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6949/snapshot1vh2.png |
| 22:51.31 | XSoul | wil try . |
| 22:51.35 | XSoul | tuv . : thank you |
| 22:51.46 | JordiGH | Ooh, qingy looks nice. "Without overhead of X". |
| 22:52.38 | jelly-home | JordiGH: I don't really get it, I'm going to login to X after xdm anyway... |
| 22:52.48 | tuv | Festyur, because you're using a theme that is available in the user themes directory and not in the system's (/usr/share/themes). synpatics is run as root and will not find the user's themes |
| 22:53.41 | JordiGH | jelly-home: What does it do exactly? Just runs a single X application? |
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| 22:54.19 | jelly-home | JordiGH: apparently it either runs an X session or a console session afterwards. |
| 22:55.02 | kharcore | JordiGH: I am mostly trying to install because of the ultra-customization of that package |
| 22:55.42 | JordiGH | kharcore: In my country, we have a saying... "si quieres azul celeste, que te cueste"... if you want celestial blue, it'll cost you... which unfortunately doesn't rhym in English. |
| 22:55.51 | JordiGH | rhyme |
| 22:56.14 | kharcore | JordiGH: I think is the latter anyways... |
| 22:56.39 | JordiGH | So good luck satisfying those dependencies... if you already got the ones mentioned in the FAQ. |
| 22:56.47 | JordiGH | Oh, the FAQ says you can use the Ubuntu .debs |
| 22:57.02 | kharcore | is there something else like pastebin because pastebin.com isn't worknig |
| 22:57.24 | kharcore | JordiGH: that Ubuntu deb is old as the bible |
| 22:58.04 | kharcore | I don't want an stone age package |
| 22:58.51 | Ronin | and why are you installing ubuntu debs anyhow is my question |
| 22:58.56 | JordiGH | kharcore: Hm, that's true. The Ubuntu package is 0.6, source seems to be at 0.9 right now. |
| 22:59.08 | kharcore | Ronin: I am trying to install from source |
| 22:59.17 | JordiGH | Ronin: The qingy FAQ says the Ubuntu deb works, and Debian doesn't have it as a package yet. |
| 22:59.33 | kharcore | but pastebin isn't working in my town this moment :-( |
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| 22:59.46 | kharcore | is there something else out there to paste? |
| 22:59.56 | JordiGH | First the channel bots don't respond, now pastebin... How's the sunspot activity these days? |
| 23:00.06 | tuv | kharcore, http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 23:00.07 | jargon | Debian doesnt come with deb? |
| 23:00.08 | DoppelGanger | he he |
| 23:00.14 | JordiGH | jargon: Nope. |
| 23:00.15 | jelly-home | kharcore: there are a lot of pastebins around. |
| 23:00.30 | jargon | why is it called 'deb'ian then? |
| 23:00.43 | JordiGH | jargon: Ubuntu also uses Debian .deb files. |
| 23:00.44 | DoppelGanger | ok who put somehting in the water? |
| 23:00.52 | jelly-home | jargon: what are you smoking? |
| 23:01.20 | Ronin | JordiGH: perhaps but i bet bad things happen if you install one of thiers on a debian system |
| 23:01.32 | JordiGH | Ronin: *shrug* |
| 23:01.35 | JordiGH | !start a distro war |
| 23:01.35 | dpkg_ | Knoppix is the mutts nuts! |
| 23:01.43 | JordiGH | The what...? |
| 23:01.45 | kharcore | http://rafb.net/paste/results/q4ZYL011.html |
| 23:01.46 | jargon | i had thought debian and deb were directly related? |
| 23:01.55 | JordiGH | jargon: There are a bunch of distros based on Debian. |
| 23:01.58 | Festyur | tuv: i'm using the defalu kde theme |
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| 23:02.01 | kharcore | ./configure goes pretty far... |
| 23:02.29 | JordiGH | jargon: APT is a good system and people like it, so they make more distros out of it. Knoppix, Ubuntu, DamnSmallLinux... |
| 23:02.42 | Festyur | tuv: i'm using the default kde theme |
| 23:03.06 | jargon | where can i read what a deb file is then? |
| 23:03.17 | jelly-home | kharcore: apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 23:03.27 | tuv | Festyur, this happened to me twice, and i solved it by moving the theme folder from my user home to /usr/share/themes, and it worked both times |
| 23:03.38 | JordiGH | http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&start=1&oi=define&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.deb |
| 23:03.43 | kharcore | jelly-home: thanks |
| 23:03.51 | JordiGH | Argh, sorry about that Google preamble. |
| 23:03.55 | kharcore | :') |
| 23:04.01 | jargon | super mario sunshine used debs |
| 23:04.04 | JordiGH | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.deb |
| 23:04.13 | kharcore | JordiGH: was that for me? |
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| 23:04.21 | grogoreo | hi |
| 23:04.34 | Festyur | tuv: dunno, i think i alreadey have it there. /usr/share/themes/Qt/gtk-2.0 ? |
| 23:04.49 | JordiGH | kharcore: No, I was talking to jargon. |
| 23:04.54 | kharcore | ok |
| 23:04.55 | JordiGH | jargon: Go read the Wikipedia. |
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| 23:05.32 | grogoreo | in /etc/hostname can I specify two domains like grogoreo.server-provider.co.uk and then my own one grogoreo.co.uk? If so, would I put them on the same line, or on separete? |
| 23:05.52 | itchi | Does xterm not support links? I mean if i run irssi in an xterm console, and there is an link, i can not click on it like some other bloated consoles. |
| 23:05.56 | Festyur | tuv: do u mean this file? /home/lucas/.gtk_qt_engine_rc |
| 23:06.12 | JordiGH | itchi: Does that work in any console? |
| 23:06.21 | tuv | Festyur, i use gnome and my theme was in ~/.themes |
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| 23:06.27 | tuv | Festyur, it was a directory |
| 23:06.35 | itchi | JordiGH: Yeah, in that gnome console it work, but not in xterm |
| 23:06.39 | jelly-home | itchi: it doesn't. |
| 23:06.41 | grogoreo | or should I put my second domain in grogoreo.co.uk? |
| 23:06.49 | grogoreo | sorry i meant /etc/hosts |
| 23:06.57 | JordiGH | It works in gterm? |
| 23:07.09 | Festyur | tuv: i c |
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| 23:07.17 | Festyur | tuv: nvm i use kde |
| 23:07.21 | itchi | jelly-home: How do you do then, select the text (aka) link and then press the 2 mouse buttons in an browser? |
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| 23:07.59 | jelly-home | itchi: select with left button, paste somewhere else with middle. |
| 23:08.16 | itchi | I realy like xterm, not ask me why, it's the feeling with it, it's like that i not like gnome, ask me not why, not feeling for it |
| 23:08.42 | jargon | deb files sound like something a 12year old would throw together |
| 23:08.52 | JordiGH | This reminds me... I need software for practicing my touch-typing in Cyrillic. Recommendations? |
| 23:08.57 | itchi | jelly-home: Yup, like i already did it, i still continue that way, thanks for the confirmation ;-) |
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| 23:09.17 | JordiGH | jargon: And yet, Debian is built out of them and they handle conflict resolution in a remarkable way. |
| 23:09.17 | jelly-home | itchi: doubleclick left button, hold on the second click and drag to select whole words for easier handling |
| 23:09.31 | robin_sz | JordiGH, touch typing in cyrrilic? first I recommend lots and lots of Vodka! |
| 23:09.41 | itchi | jelly-home: Yeah ;-) |
| 23:10.05 | itchi | I love so xterm :-) |
| 23:10.09 | JordiGH | robin_sz: I don't drink, thanks. :-) But I really want to learn the traditional Russian layout. There's a phonetic one, but that feels like cheating, and besides, I'm already partially used to the usual layout. |
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| 23:10.34 | robin_sz | dont drink? .. coo. |
| 23:11.07 | JordiGH | ktouch is nice, but I can't find Cyrillic lessons for it. I could make them up myself, but that seems rather silly. |
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| 23:11.31 | jargon | JordiGH i dont think of it as remarkable. remarkable doesnt even make sense to me. its just something like a 12yo would think up. it works so no prollem. however i cangt forsee how a crc would work |
| 23:11.49 | jargon | especially if rearhived |
| 23:11.50 | robin_sz | itchi, thanks. I'm a Perl programmer, the concept of not drinking is somewhat alien. |
| 23:12.00 | JordiGH | jargon: Then go to rpms. |
| 23:12.38 | jargon | rpms> |
| 23:12.38 | itchi | Yeah, many martians here ;-) |
| 23:12.45 | jargon | ? |
| 23:13.24 | JordiGH | jargon: A different and common format for software packages in the free software world. Used by SuSE, Fedora, Mandriva, and others. |
| 23:13.26 | jargon | a tom & jerry movie where they go to mars is on currently |
| 23:13.37 | JordiGH | !rpm |
| 23:13.37 | dpkg_ | from memory, rpm is revolutions per minute, or Red Hat package manager;; "rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivdum" to extract the beasties, or a programming language according to LinuxOne, or convert them to .deb's with 'alien'. Relaxing Porn Movie, or random package mangling, or an inferior package type when compared to deb. Rubbish Package Management. Retards pathetic Moaning, or roothats pathalogical muckfuck, or rat-poison method, or robot power management |
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| 23:13.50 | JordiGH | Relaxing Porn Movie?? |
| 23:14.08 | jelly-home | jargon: apt's dependency resolution is quite sophisticated, not really something I'd expect from a common 12 year old kid. Maybe the kids around your place are better, dunno. |
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| 23:15.00 | jargon | sounds external to me |
| 23:15.25 | seb- | does a regular ol' wifi card to scanning? |
| 23:15.33 | seb- | iwlist scan |
| 23:15.34 | seb- | lo Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 23:15.34 | seb- | eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported |
| 23:15.39 | seb- | ?? |
| 23:15.56 | jelly-home | seb-: is eth0 your wireless? |
| 23:16.00 | seb- | yes |
| 23:16.05 | dilation | weird oO |
| 23:16.10 | dilation | a wireless ethernet |
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| 23:16.27 | itchi | seb-: Is Eth0 been your wifi card? |
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| 23:16.35 | seb- | itchi: i'm using it right now |
| 23:16.38 | seb- | itchi: so yes |
| 23:16.40 | jelly-home | dilation: the eth part isn't weird, but being the first card is, kind of. |
| 23:16.58 | itchi | ohyea, not good for me to split irssi :-P |
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| 23:17.27 | jelly-home | seb-: I think it depends on the driver. |
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| 23:17.36 | tuv | seb-, if eth0 is your wireless interface, try "ifconfig eth0 up" before "iwlist eth0 scan" |
| 23:17.39 | jargon | ubuntu uses mainly wetware conflict resolution for debs as far asi can tell |
| 23:17.56 | jelly-home | tuv: it probably is up if he's using it at present... |
| 23:18.15 | JordiGH | jargon: Dude, Ubuntu uses the APT system that Debian invented. There's not anymore "wetware" going on in Ubuntu than there is in Debian. |
| 23:18.24 | JordiGH | s/anymore/any more |
| 23:18.33 | dilation | I do not think there is wireless ethernet |
| 23:18.34 | tuv | jelly-home, or it's on another machine. it's very common for some driver to require ifconfig up before you can scan |
| 23:18.37 | dilation | ^^ |
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| 23:18.55 | seb- | dilation: i think it renames the interface to eth0..don't ask me why :) |
| 23:18.58 | jelly-home | jargon: I don't see how that's relevant for this channel. |
| 23:19.03 | JordiGH | dilation: Actually, given the etymology (ETHERnet), wireless ethernet makes a lot of sense. ;-) |
| 23:19.05 | dilation | seb-: it should not do so :) |
| 23:19.16 | dilation | JordiGH: ha ha ;) |
| 23:19.30 | tuv | seb-, do "iwconfig" to make sure which interface is wireless, if any |
| 23:19.54 | itchi | Can we use x (gnome and/or kde) without an mouse? |
| 23:20.24 | JordiGH | itchi: Sure. Just save a session previously that automatically opens an xterm when you login. :P |
| 23:20.36 | itchi | Just convinced an friend wihtout an mouse to use Debian :-) |
| 23:20.38 | dilation | and maximize that xterm |
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| 23:20.57 | dilation | will be world's most expensive terminal emulator |
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| 23:21.03 | JordiGH | dilation: Hm, doesn't metacity/kwin have keyboard shortcuts for maximising windows? |
| 23:21.14 | dilation | JordiGH: possibly :) |
| 23:21.30 | tuv | JordiGH, alt-F10 on gnome |
| 23:21.36 | jelly-home | dilation: ratpoison is a wm specifically made to minimize using the mouse, it's like using screen. |
| 23:22.15 | JordiGH | dilation: And you needn't stick just to the konsole. E.g, opening a pdf reader from the terminal and you can navigate the pdf with the keyboard. I actually use the mouse quite infrequently myself when I'm working, more when I'm goofind around or web browsing. |
| 23:22.37 | dilation | yes, web browsing sucks without a mouse |
| 23:22.49 | JordiGH | My spelling betrays my desktop preferences. I meant to say "console", not "konsole". |
| 23:22.52 | Kinks | I had fun using w3m for the first time. |
| 23:23.17 | JordiGH | dilation: I don't mind using lynx or even Firefox without a mouse, but it does get tiresome after a while. |
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| 23:23.19 | Kinks | and last* |
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| 23:23.53 | dilation | if I know an URL, I point lynx to it. but that pointless surving is impossible without mouse support IMHO. at any time a javascript automated flash might come |
| 23:23.57 | jelly-home | JordiGH: opera has very nice default keybindings, most common tasks are single-key (forward, backward page) |
| 23:24.14 | JordiGH | jelly-home: Are there any plans to make Opera free? |
| 23:24.19 | kharcore | checking for DIRECTFB... configure: error: |
| 23:24.19 | kharcore | *** DirectFB 0.9.18 or newer is required. The latest version |
| 23:24.19 | kharcore | *** of DirectFB is available from http://www.directfb.org/. |
| 23:24.34 | JordiGH | kharcore: So go get it. :-) |
| 23:24.37 | kharcore | I've got that installed :-( |
| 23:25.05 | dilation | ii libdirectfb-dev 0.9.25.1-3 frame buffer graphics library, development files |
| 23:25.21 | kharcore | isn't this one libdirectfb-0.9-20 |
| 23:25.34 | JordiGH | kharcore: No, you need a newer version. |
| 23:25.35 | raf256 | is there some free program to STRONGLY test a cpu, like prim95? |
| 23:25.36 | dilation | kharcore: both are above .18 |
| 23:25.38 | raf256 | *prime59 |
| 23:25.47 | raf256 | * primes95 |
| 23:25.48 | JordiGH | raf256: Octave? :P |
| 23:25.49 | dilation | kharcore: it shouldWork[tm] |
| 23:25.56 | kharcore | damn... |
| 23:25.58 | kharcore | now what |
| 23:26.14 | kharcore | perhpas reboot |
| 23:26.15 | raf256 | JordiGH: it have a torture test and benchmark options? it do self-checking? |
| 23:26.19 | kharcore | I think I should rebot |
| 23:26.21 | dilation | kharcore: ^^ |
| 23:26.21 | JordiGH | kharcore: libdirectfb-0.9-22-dev |
| 23:26.27 | kharcore | ok |
| 23:26.30 | JordiGH | kharcore: You're kidding, right? |
| 23:26.37 | JordiGH | kharcore: Are you a Windows user? Why do you want to reboot? |
| 23:26.43 | jelly-home | kharcore: do you have libdirectfb-dev ? |
| 23:26.47 | itchi | 0.0.0 |
| 23:26.50 | dilation | some problems can only be solved by /sbin/halt :] |
| 23:26.55 | itchi | oeps, wrong windoz |
| 23:27.05 | uzair2 | hi all |
| 23:27.08 | kharcore | I have m$$$ mentality |
| 23:27.12 | minerale | I'm trying to scp an entire drive, but it keeps getting fucked up from all the symbolic links to folders, so I have several copies of the same stuff, is it possible to tell it not to follow symbolic links ? |
| 23:27.20 | JordiGH | dilation: Yeah, productivity problems, when I spend too much time in #debian instead of working. :P |
| 23:27.40 | itchi | minerale: compress it first?? |
| 23:27.42 | dilation | minerale: use sftp |
| 23:28.05 | dilation | JordiGH: true *runs away* |
| 23:28.11 | itchi | minerale: compress it and pipe that to an ssh connection? |
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| 23:28.43 | itchi | minerale: You can tar that and send that easy trought an remote connection |
| 23:28.44 | jelly-home | kharcore: Windows have solid reasons to require a reboot after upgrades. Linux can replace in-use files without rebooting. Basically you only need to reboot for a kernel upgrade. |
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| 23:29.41 | minerale | itchi: I tried tar/gz that failed (?no space?) so I'm not sure, I'll try again |
| 23:29.55 | JordiGH | jelly-home: And I also like how Linux recovers quite gracefully from thrashing. I was running a simulation that chewed up all of my memory, swap included. After I managed to issue the relevant kill -9 command, memory gets cleaned up properly, and it's as if nothing had ever happened. :-) |
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| 23:31.20 | itchi | minerale: In that case you tar it and and directly send that | to an remote connection? He not store any data then on the computer but send it directly to an remote computer |
| 23:31.28 | laserlite | i installed a ata raid, using as a ide controller, i see lsmod loads the card, but how do i mount the disks ? |
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| 23:31.41 | jelly-home | minerale: if you already have a partial remote copy, you can use rsync to finish ot off. |
| 23:31.55 | wols | laserlite: man mount |
| 23:32.22 | laserlite | haha |
| 23:32.25 | wols | laserlite: also your kernel log should tell you which devicefile(s) your new card uses |
| 23:32.25 | JordiGH | wols: woman mount. :P |
| 23:32.38 | laserlite | how do i know if it is actually seeing the drives |
| 23:32.39 | wols | bash: woman: command not found |
| 23:32.46 | wols | laserlite: kernel.log |
| 23:32.51 | laserlite | ill look |
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| 23:33.08 | JordiGH | wols: I think it's only an Emacs extension, then... |
| 23:33.13 | zebalin4 | Hi folks. Are there any major issues with sid these days? Is cups fixed? KDE all in? |
| 23:33.33 | JordiGH | wols: I'm sorry to hear that. :P |
| 23:33.36 | wols | zebalin4: there are _always_ issues with sid |
| 23:33.37 | jargon | i got sidetracked while pouring a glass of milk. thus i poured 3 glasses worth into 1 glass . :() |
| 23:33.39 | wols | that's why it's sid |
| 23:34.03 | sanmarcos2 | _test_ |
| 23:34.13 | zebalin4 | wols: yeah, but sid sometimes gets very solid with respect to the WM and other major apps. |
| 23:34.17 | jargon | _testicles_ |
| 23:34.18 | jelly-home | jargon: use single tasking |
| 23:34.23 | jargon | :P |
| 23:34.33 | jargon | ok |
| 23:34.36 | jargon | :> |
| 23:34.46 | itchi | wols: hehe, try to aptitude it? |
| 23:34.47 | zebalin4 | I run sid with few problems (most of the time). When things go really whacko the IRC usually is first to know. |
| 23:35.01 | JordiGH | raf256: Sorry, I got distracted. I was joking when I said Octave. That's just mathematical software. If you've got problems to feed to the computer, you can see how Octave handles them. |
| 23:35.18 | jargon | it would be nice if ping were called test and pong were called icles |
| 23:35.22 | Firestarter | is there a chan where I can past a problem that I have? |
| 23:35.23 | raf256 | why I apt-got it then :[ |
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| 23:35.32 | JordiGH | raf256: Sorry. :-/ |
| 23:35.34 | wols | !paster |
| 23:35.35 | dpkg_ | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 23:35.45 | raf256 | so, is there some software on debian that makes complicated heavy CPU using calculations |
| 23:35.56 | raf256 | and also benchmarks, and in addition checks for possible errors |
| 23:36.12 | wols | usually prime95 does it. get mprime |
| 23:36.25 | JordiGH | raf256: How about stress? |
| 23:36.25 | raf256 | wols: I wanted a free software, like with sources |
| 23:36.28 | JordiGH | !info stress |
| 23:36.33 | raf256 | isnt mprime binary-only? |
| 23:36.35 | dpkg_ | stress: (A tool to impose load on and stress test a computer system), section devel, is extra. Version: 0.18.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 23:36.46 | raf256 | stress sucks it is nothing like primes |
| 23:36.54 | JordiGH | Wtf is primes? |
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| 23:37.10 | JordiGH | There's also... |
| 23:37.11 | laserlite | kern.log doesnt seem to have anything |
| 23:37.14 | JordiGH | !info xengine |
| 23:37.21 | dpkg_ | xengine: (A benchmark program for the X Window System.), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.11-10 (sid), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
| 23:37.29 | laserlite | i think the module isnt loaded but maybe somehwere in /proc i saw it |
| 23:37.37 | JordiGH | !info lmbench |
| 23:37.39 | dpkg_ | lmbench: (Utilities to benchmark UNIX systems), section non-free/admin, is optional. Version: 3.0-a5-3 (sid), Packaged size: 795 kB, Installed size: 3636 kB |
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| 23:37.47 | raf256 | I wanted to test CPU |
| 23:37.49 | JordiGH | Really, dude, shall I do all the apt-cache searching, are can you do it yourself? :P |
| 23:37.57 | JordiGH | Oh, lmbench is non-free. Hm. |
| 23:38.04 | jargon | stress testing is a waste of time imo |
| 23:38.29 | jargon | because if it fails then you usually have to start over a bunch of stuff |
| 23:38.39 | Firestarter | anyone able to check out my problem that I pasted to #flood i can past again if needed |
| 23:38.40 | jargon | might as well just forsee it |
| 23:38.43 | raf256 | jargon: I want to check is my server rock solid |
| 23:38.43 | wols | the best stress test is a kernel compile |
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| 23:38.59 | DoppelGanger | kick it if it dies then no |
| 23:39.00 | wols | gcc is very picky |
| 23:39.11 | MorbusIff | so, it appears my host has locked /tmp down from executable scripts, as that's a common attack vector for rootkits. this is causing apt-get to break -- is there a way I can tell apt-get to use a different /tmp directory? |
| 23:39.16 | raf256 | wols: no |
| 23:39.20 | tuv | there is cpuburn |
| 23:39.21 | wols | and you can't see from a simple benchmark one time if the box is stable |
| 23:39.36 | JordiGH | !inf iozone3 |
| 23:39.37 | jargon | now if they had an automated forseeable exploit test, that would be useful |
| 23:39.47 | JordiGH | !info iozone3 |
| 23:39.49 | dpkg_ | iozone3: (Filesystem and Disk Benchmarking Tool), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 263-1 (sid), Packaged size: 403 kB, Installed size: 700 kB |
| 23:39.51 | raf256 | I want to "burn" cpu, but with real stuff not some simple&stupid burnK7 etc. program |
| 23:40.00 | JordiGH | Wow, another non-free. Strange. |
| 23:40.08 | wols | MorbusIff: how can you use apt without root privs? |
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| 23:40.30 | MorbusIff | wols: has nothing to do with root privileges. they mounted /tmp in such a way as to prevent execution of anything |
| 23:40.46 | wols | MorbusIff: you are root, you can change that |
| 23:40.47 | JordiGH | apt uses /tmp? I didn't realise. |
| 23:40.49 | wols | if not, you are not root |
| 23:41.00 | MorbusIff | wols: why would I want to change that? i know why they did it, and I agree with it. |
| 23:41.03 | wols | JordiGH: me neither. especially for executing anything |
| 23:41.14 | lontra | dpkg down? |
| 23:41.14 | dpkg_ | rumour has it, down is negative up. |
| 23:41.15 | wols | MorbusIff: then change it for duration of apt runs |
| 23:41.25 | lontra | ah dpkg is dpkg_ |
| 23:41.40 | MorbusIff | wols: that would appear to be a umount, then remount, then umount, then repmont again. |
| 23:41.45 | MorbusIff | there has to be an easier way, no? |
| 23:41.48 | MorbusIff | JordiGH: [[[ |
| 23:41.48 | MorbusIff | Preconfiguring packages ... |
| 23:41.48 | MorbusIff | Can't exec "/tmp/passwd.config.208821": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168. |
| 23:41.49 | MorbusIff | ]]] |
| 23:41.55 | MorbusIff | for preconfigure scripts, it appears. |
| 23:41.59 | wols | aha. a script uses it |
| 23:42.19 | jargon | you forget down is not negative up because -32ft/s doesnt not reverse accelleration |
| 23:42.20 | MorbusIff | wols: that's happened for about 4 packages so far. |
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| 23:42.31 | JordiGH | !troll me |
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| 23:42.54 | DoppelGanger | is that like kiss me only with a smile |
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| 23:43.21 | JordiGH | Actually, I was wondering if I could mark myself as a troll. |
| 23:43.28 | MorbusIff | wols: /dev/tmpMnt /tmp ext2 loop,noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 |
| 23:43.40 | MorbusIff | that's how they've done it. so i'd have to remount twice to get it back each time. |
| 23:43.48 | DoppelGanger | he he i don;t think that feature was included |
| 23:43.52 | jargon | 1/32ft/s reverses it yes? |
| 23:44.05 | JordiGH | MorbusIff: You needn't unmount to remount. You can write a three-liner shell-script to replace apt-get. |
| 23:44.17 | lontra | i know this is a preference question...but what's a good window manager? |
| 23:44.37 | jargon | 1/32ft/s^2 rather |
| 23:44.37 | JordiGH | !start a desktop war |
| 23:44.37 | dpkg_ | Be smart, use WindowMaker. |
| 23:44.44 | JordiGH | lontra: WindowMaker. |
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| 23:44.50 | jargon | or 32ft/s^.5 |
| 23:44.50 | lontra | :) |
| 23:45.15 | kharcore | how may I check whether DirectFB is installed? I am pretty sure IT IS isntalled so how come ./configure can't find it? |
| 23:45.18 | jargon | what is the euation for inverting gravity? |
| 23:45.25 | jargon | expression* |
| 23:45.45 | Ryengoth | How about ALT-F<number>? |
| 23:45.48 | Ryengoth | <g> |
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| 23:47.03 | JordiGH | kharcore: apt-cache policy libdirectfb-0.9.22-dev |
| 23:47.58 | jelly-home | JordiGH: I don't have that, but libdirectfb-dev is there in sarge, etch and sid. |
| 23:48.02 | Ryengoth | can anyone shed some light on why mailutils-imap would drop connections, except for local telnet? I'm all googled out regarding Courier and squirrelmail. Can't find anything on mailutils. |
| 23:48.24 | JordiGH | kharcore: It's also conceivable that the configure script is looking for a file that isn't there, in which case you might need to put a symlink wherever configure is looking and make the symlink point to the correct library file. |
| 23:48.28 | Ryengoth | the logs show no errors |
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| 23:48.41 | Ryengoth | telnet to localhost lets me browse the imap folders |
| 23:48.49 | JordiGH | !telnet |
| 23:48.49 | dpkg_ | i guess telnet is an old protocol for remotely logging in to another computer. It is one of the basic utilities for TCP/IP. It is very insecure as it sends all traffic in plaintext! Seriously consider using ssh instead. see telnet-ssl, this one has encryption and certificates support (but that's useless without a remote telnetd-ssl except to play and telnet to an https web server) |
| 23:48.54 | Ryengoth | it's not a routing or IP blocking issue |
| 23:48.56 | kharcore | JordiGH: I was thinking something similar... but how to find out what symlink is it? |
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| 23:49.22 | JordiGH | kharcore: Does configure say what it's looking for and can't find? |
| 23:49.22 | kharcore | JordiGH: can I look inside the script? |
| 23:49.42 | kharcore | checking for XScreenSaverQueryInfo in -lXss... yes |
| 23:49.42 | kharcore | checking for pkg-config... no |
| 23:49.42 | kharcore | checking for DIRECTFB... configure: error: |
| 23:49.44 | JordiGH | configure scripts are usually written by a machine and highly unreadable. |
| 23:49.54 | kharcore | and *** DirectFB 0.9.18 or newer is required. The latest version |
| 23:49.55 | kharcore | *** of DirectFB is available from http://www.directfb.org/. |
| 23:49.57 | jelly-home | kharcore: you have config.log as the detailed output of what configure has done. |
| 23:50.00 | kharcore | aha... |
| 23:50.13 | kharcore | jelly-home: where's that config log? |
| 23:50.37 | MorbusIff | ah! |
| 23:50.38 | MorbusIff | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/57 |
| 23:50.39 | jelly-home | kharcore: same dir. where configure itself is. |
| 23:50.39 | MorbusIff | beautiful. |
| 23:51.18 | dbe | How can I repair the package csound? |
| 23:51.32 | dbe | As I have installed. |
| 23:51.57 | dbe | It's not in /usr/bin anymore after apt-get instsall csound. |
| 23:51.58 | JordiGH | dbe: apt-get -f install ? |
| 23:52.00 | dbe | install* |
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| 23:52.56 | dbe | I still get: bash: /usr/local/bin/csound: No such file or directory |
| 23:53.23 | jelly-home | dbe: debian packages don't install anything in /usr/local |
| 23:53.36 | JordiGH | Ooh, serendipity: splashy |
| 23:53.39 | JordiGH | !info splashy |
| 23:53.46 | dpkg_ | splashy: (A complete user-space boot splash system), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.1.8.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1512 kB, Installed size: 3328 kB |
| 23:53.48 | JordiGH | Does it work? |
| 23:53.57 | jelly-home | dbe: do you have a dangling symlink in /usr/local/bin/csound ? |
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| 23:54.36 | dbe | I don't have /usr/local/bin/ |
| 23:54.42 | dbe | I RTFM. |
| 23:55.01 | deadcat | dbe: mkdir /usr/local/bin |
| 23:55.07 | deadcat | dont have to rtfm |
| 23:55.13 | jelly-home | dbe: your bash error is pretty strange, then. |
| 23:55.22 | JordiGH | dbe: if you type "whereis csound", does anything happen? |
| 23:55.31 | trygg | Ehm, how do i save in visualboyadvance? |
| 23:55.32 | dbe | deadcat, I know how to create scriptgenerators with BASH. |
| 23:55.54 | kharcore | apt-cache policy libdirectfb-0.9.22-dev |
| 23:55.54 | kharcore | W: Unable to locate package libdirectfb-0.9.22-dev |
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| 23:56.06 | kharcore | how come I DID installed it???!! |
| 23:56.12 | Rez | dbe: run a 'hash -r' |
| 23:56.16 | deadcat | dbe: good |
| 23:56.22 | kharcore | something is wrong |
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| 23:56.51 | JordiGH | kharcore: That's strange. But anyways, it shouldn't be relevant, since I just realised that unqualified libdirectfb-dev is a newer version. What does apt-cache policy say for that one? |
| 23:57.04 | liable | kharcore: try libdirectfb-dev |
| 23:57.23 | JordiGH | kharcore: And no, by the way, you don't need to reboot. ;-) |
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| 23:57.33 | kharcore | I think when installing the other version that one got uninstalled |
| 23:57.54 | JordiGH | kharcore: Have you ran apt-get update recently? |
| 23:57.57 | MorbusIff | hrm. that doesn't seem to work. |
| 23:58.16 | Firestarter | is there a way to search installed packages from the command line |
| 23:58.26 | zinx | Fire: dpkg |
| 23:58.28 | DoppelGanger | he he rtfm Firestarter |
| 23:58.30 | kharcore | JordiGH: yes |
| 23:58.40 | JordiGH | kharcore: No typos? |
| 23:58.47 | kharcore | ok so which one do I need libdirectfb-0.9-22-dev |
| 23:58.56 | kharcore | or this one libdirectfb-dev: |
| 23:59.20 | kharcore | whe I install one the other one gets unsinstalled |
| 23:59.43 | JordiGH | That's fine. That's because they conflict. Install the one without a version number. |
| 23:59.49 | Rez | dbe: the hash -r help? |
