| 00:00.12 | Verdin | I've done a little bit of repository mixmatching to try to get something to install... :> |
| 00:00.19 | liable | ... |
| 00:00.35 | Verdin | lol |
| 00:00.36 | Verdin | What to do? |
| 00:00.40 | liable | Verdin: and now you pay the price :) |
| 00:01.59 | abrotman | didn't i say "stop mixing" ? |
| 00:01.59 | Verdin | I had no idea what you were talking about XD. |
| 00:02.14 | Verdin | Should I try putting sources.list.orig back in place and updating? |
| 00:02.55 | abrotman | i think you're screwed |
| 00:03.00 | Verdin | :( |
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| 00:03.49 | abrotman | paste the error |
| 00:04.22 | ugly | is there a proper Debian way to change the value of /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq at boot? |
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| 00:04.59 | bkudria | liable: ok, i'll try |
| 00:05.03 | abrotman | /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 00:05.05 | Verdin | What error? I got no error message. I just tried to install a package and suddenly discovered that it wanted to uninstall my entire system XD. |
| 00:05.46 | ugly | abrotman: ah, thanks |
| 00:06.49 | Verdin | abrotman: There was no error that I know of. :P |
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| 00:07.14 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | is there a way to "alt-tab" through running programs? |
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| 00:07.26 | abrotman | in ? |
| 00:07.29 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | cli |
| 00:07.35 | abrotman | use screen ? |
| 00:07.44 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | show me the way abrotman |
| 00:07.51 | abrotman | !screen |
| 00:07.52 | dpkg | [screen] allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
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| 00:08.59 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | great! one more thing... what would be the equivalent of the autoexec.bat or startup folder in windows? something I could put a binary in to run at bootup |
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| 00:09.27 | abrotman | !run at startup |
| 00:09.27 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README |
| 00:10.03 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | thanks abrotman |
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| 00:10.36 | MarGarina | Any idea why my /dev/null keeps chmodding itself to 0600? |
| 00:10.46 | MarGarina | (on boot) |
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| 00:10.48 | sid | ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) |
| 00:10.50 | sid | Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge |
| 00:10.57 | sid | What sound card module do I need to modprobe? |
| 00:11.09 | abrotman | sid: those aren't sound devices |
| 00:11.09 | robin_sz | sigh ... networking on this debian server is pants .. it became disconnected from the network just because the network plug fell out of the back ... can I file a bugreport? ;) |
| 00:11.28 | abrotman | are you serious? |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | you're mad because the cable falls out ? |
| 00:11.52 | robin_sz | no ... im not seriousm hence the smiley at the end |
| 00:13.08 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | i need a computer with robots that repair/build new hardware when I need it :( |
| 00:13.21 | sid | abrotman: compaq presario 4850, it's a real old mobo. integrated sound |
| 00:13.32 | sid | abrotman: The sound device doesn't show up on lspci, but it exists. |
| 00:14.31 | grendelson | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.32 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | how do I stop a program in linux? |
| 00:14.42 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | whenever I quit, it auto-restarts |
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| 00:15.01 | abrotman | sid: it's ISA |
| 00:15.01 | sanmarcos | what provides the binary pyversions in debian? |
| 00:15.16 | abrotman | !find pyversions sarge |
| 00:15.29 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'pyversions' returned no results. |
| 00:16.02 | beardy | Silent_Chaos[CAN: What program is it? |
| 00:16.08 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | a game server |
| 00:16.15 | beardy | Silent_Chaos[CAN: What do you mean with "quit", quit from what? |
| 00:16.21 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | quit is the command |
| 00:16.52 | robin_sz | killall <program name> |
| 00:16.58 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | k |
| 00:17.00 | beardy | Silent_Chaos[CAN: Well, you should read that game servers documentation. You mean in it's console or something like that? |
| 00:17.05 | Silent_Chaos[CAN | yeah |
| 00:17.46 | beardy | Silent_Chaos[CAN: Perhaps "quit" only means to quit from that console, check if it has some -kill option or so 'nameofgameserver -h' perhaps. |
| 00:18.33 | sid | abrotman: Instruction Set Architecture? |
| 00:18.48 | sid | abrotman: http://www.copypot.com/521 |
| 00:18.49 | abrotman | !isa |
| 00:18.49 | dpkg | it has been said that isa is (Industry Standard Adapter) The 8- and 16-bit original connectors used in PCs. They run at a bus speed of 8 MHz. You can plug ISA expansion cards into an ISA slot. Modems and sound cards are ISA cards due to their low bandwidth requirements. a piece of shit. |
| 00:18.59 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 00:18.59 | dpkg | i guess isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump, or http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ |
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| 00:19.21 | sanmarcos | how can I search for a file in packages.debian.org|? |
| 00:19.56 | sanmarcos | nmind |
| 00:20.00 | Verdin | abrotman: So what exactly did I do to my system. Has it happened to others? |
| 00:20.12 | abrotman | don't mix versions of debian unless you know what you're doing |
| 00:20.50 | Verdin | Yes sir :/ |
| 00:20.55 | Verdin | Is there a way to fix aptitude? |
| 00:21.08 | Verdin | (Whatever in the world happened to it.) |
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| 00:25.17 | abrotman | Verdin: try -f |
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| 00:25.31 | abrotman | bob2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:25.44 | azeem | and bob5 and bob4 |
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| 00:26.00 | abrotman | does that mean it's not really bob2? |
| 00:26.04 | azeem | 02:18 -!- bob2 (bob5) [n=bob4@ble59-5-82-233-207-9.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian |
| 00:26.08 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:26.09 | azeem | 02:18 [OPN] -!- channels : #debian-fr #debian |
| 00:26.10 | azeem | 02:18 [OPN] -!- channels : #debian-fr #debian |
| 00:26.12 | azeem | oops |
| 00:26.19 | beardy | hmm |
| 00:26.21 | abrotman | azeem: 4 is the magic number |
| 00:26.29 | sid | abrotman: E: Couldn't find package isapnptools |
| 00:26.37 | azeem | it got removed |
| 00:26.41 | azeem | recently, I think |
| 00:26.43 | abrotman | sid: no shit .. it's long gone |
| 00:26.48 | sid | sucks |
| 00:26.49 | bob2 | hi all |
| 00:26.55 | sid | I wonder if snapshot has it. |
| 00:26.55 | abrotman | sid: grab it from sarge .. or compile your own |
| 00:26.58 | bob2 | did i make smthg wrong? |
| 00:27.03 | azeem | bob2: no |
| 00:27.06 | abrotman | bob2: no .. i thought you were someone else |
| 00:27.10 | bob2 | ok sorry |
| 00:27.14 | azeem | bob2: somebody else was using this nick some time ago |
| 00:27.18 | beardy | bob2: No, (not yet ;) ) |
| 00:27.26 | Guerin | hm, is bob2 absent? |
| 00:27.30 | azeem | yes |
| 00:27.35 | beardy | Guerin: Since a long time. |
| 00:27.35 | Guerin | the real bob2, not this fake-ass one |
| 00:27.46 | azeem | Guerin: the other one is present, d'oh :) |
| 00:27.48 | Verdin | abrotman: -f on what? apt-get? aptitude? |
| 00:27.53 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:27.54 | bob2 | guerin fake ass yoursel |
| 00:27.54 | Guerin | that's what I get for being afk for six months |
| 00:28.00 | Verdin | It didn't do a thing. |
| 00:28.08 | abrotman | Guerin: he went MIA .. rumor is that he's okay |
| 00:28.25 | Guerin | i blame canonical |
| 00:28.30 | abrotman | i blame women |
| 00:28.37 | Guerin | heh |
| 00:28.43 | Guerin | the ubuntu naked women? |
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| 00:29.16 | abrotman | soemthing like that |
| 00:29.45 | liable | she must have him wrapped around her finger, he gave up irc cold turkey :) |
| 00:30.02 | abrotman | not cold turkey .. but pretty close |
| 00:30.16 | abrotman | he had been noticed on other channels under another nick |
| 00:30.18 | beardy | climate turkey |
| 00:30.22 | sebas007 | hello, anyone getting an error compiling the kernel de debian way having problem? |
| 00:30.36 | beardy | sebas007: Be more specific. |
| 00:30.44 | Verdin | abrotman: Anything else to try? |
| 00:30.53 | sebas007 | I'm trying to compily, linux-2.6.18-rc4 |
| 00:30.54 | Heston | where could i find information on how i would install drivers for my ATI card? |
| 00:31.05 | sebas007 | I get grep LINUX_COMPILER include/linux/compile.h | \ |
| 00:31.07 | beardy | sebas007: What error, when you do what? And why are you compiling in the first place? |
| 00:31.11 | sebas007 | sed -e 's/.*LINUX_COMPILER "//' -e 's/"$//' >> debian/buildinfo |
| 00:31.21 | beardy | !b-e sebas007 |
| 00:31.21 | sebas007 | echo "The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h"; echo " \"\" "; echo "does not match curre |
| 00:31.21 | dpkg | sebas007: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 00:31.30 | Verdin | N/m |
| 00:31.32 | Verdin | I think I fixed it. |
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| 00:31.43 | Verdin | I did: rm -rf sources.list~ |
| 00:31.48 | sebas007 | beardy: ah ok. |
| 00:31.50 | Verdin | then restarted aptitude and typed u |
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| 00:32.03 | Verdin | Nope |
| 00:32.04 | Verdin | Didn't fix it. |
| 00:32.09 | Verdin | lol |
| 00:32.39 | liable | Verdin: paste your aptitude output from trying to install or upgrade |
| 00:32.40 | beardy | Verdin: No, why would it, and be careful swinging rm -rf. |
| 00:32.43 | abrotman | Verdin: paste the error! |
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| 00:33.03 | sebas007 | beardy: because I need a support for a recent sata controlor. |
| 00:33.13 | beardy | sebas007: Ok. |
| 00:33.16 | Guerin | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 00:33.17 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 00:33.20 | Guerin | sebas007: ^ |
| 00:33.33 | beardy | !beer Guerin |
| 00:34.05 | Guerin | T'be sure. |
| 00:34.20 | sebas007 | Guerin: I'm on testing now. |
| 00:34.44 | Guerin | oh. |
| 00:34.50 | thinkl | Hi all -- having trouble configuring exim4 to work right over with my fetchmail+.forward setup (using smtp.gmail.com as a smarthost) Somehow all forwarded mail is coming out with the From address written over as if it were originating from me. Anyone know what I might be doing wrong? |
| 00:34.53 | beardy | sebas007: Then a backport isn't necessary, or a later kernel available? |
| 00:35.25 | beardy | s/or/and\/or/ |
| 00:36.11 | Verdin | ok |
| 00:36.11 | Verdin | http://pastebin.com/773652 |
| 00:36.21 | sebas007 | beardy: I have the build essential now, I will try with this. |
| 00:36.33 | beardy | !tell sebas007 -about kp |
| 00:36.48 | beardy | sebas007: Ok, good luck, read that, and the other suggested ones. |
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| 00:37.13 | ezu | I am having a kernel issue. I am using debian's default config and modifying it a bit for pcmcia support to be built in. When I boot the machine it tells me it cant mount root device and to check my grub configuration. The grub config is fine, what could be missing in the kernel to cause this? |
| 00:37.18 | sebas007 | beardy: I will do this tomorrow. thank you |
| 00:37.39 | Guerin | ezu: what filesystem is your /boot on? |
| 00:38.17 | ezu | reiserfs |
| 00:38.24 | ezu | its compiled in to the kernel as well |
| 00:39.03 | ezu | Guerin, it is basically saying /dev/hda1 does not exist but the default debian kernel works fine |
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| 00:39.24 | abrotman | Verdin: apt-get install kde |
| 00:39.39 | Guerin | grub understands reiserfs, so that must be fine. |
| 00:39.55 | Verdin | abrotman: kde is already the newest version |
| 00:39.59 | Guerin | ezu: you probably don't have your ide/sata/whatever module built in |
| 00:40.03 | ezu | Guerin, ya, it gets in to booting the kernel, it just panics on trying to mount the primary partition |
| 00:40.11 | abrotman | Verdin: paste your sources |
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| 00:40.48 | sid | Bug#318359: Request of maintainer, obsolete (only for kernel < 2.4) |
| 00:40.54 | ezu | Guerin, you meen the ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support? |
| 00:41.00 | Verdin | http://pastebin.com/773655 |
| 00:41.03 | sid | abrotman: The dwn ( http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2005/32/ ) says it's obsolete. How do you use this in < 2.4? |
| 00:41.34 | Guerin | ezu: yeah, whatever controller your disk is connectefd to |
| 00:41.37 | abrotman | sid: in what ? |
| 00:41.47 | liable | Verdin: what did you actually install from the repo you mixed, it certainly has a lot of conflicts with your older stuff |
| 00:41.57 | ezu | Guerin, in all honesty I dont know for this machine. It is an old dell and I have not been able to find exactly which controler it is |
| 00:42.01 | abrotman | sid: you install the package .. read the docs .. it does work .. but it sucks |
| 00:42.11 | Verdin | liable: kildclient from the unstable repo |
| 00:42.31 | Verdin | liable: I tried to install it, but it gave me an E: error, and showed some dependency errors |
| 00:42.57 | abrotman | Verdin: paste `apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa` |
| 00:43.34 | Guerin | ezu: lspci |
| 00:44.02 | Verdin | http://pastebin.com/773656 |
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| 00:44.50 | abrotman | no ` .. just the command :) |
| 00:44.55 | Verdin | Oh. |
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| 00:45.06 | j4cbo | i'm trying to do a kernel build and it's not finding curses for some reason (lxdialog) |
| 00:45.24 | j4cbo | ... which is weird since if i link it by hand (gcc *.o -o lxdialog -lcurses) it works |
| 00:45.27 | Verdin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/773657 |
| 00:45.36 | j4cbo | but then going back and doing make menuconfig deletes the lxdialog that i compiled |
| 00:45.39 | abrotman | libncurses-dev |
| 00:45.45 | ezu | Guerin, duh.. why didnt I think of that.. |
| 00:45.51 | liable | 5-dev |
| 00:46.09 | abrotman | close enough! |
| 00:46.10 | Guerin | ezu: why think, when you have #debian to think for you? |
| 00:46.22 | liable | no cigar! |
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| 00:46.49 | abrotman | Verdin: same thing .. apt-cache policy kdelibs4 |
| 00:46.51 | ezu | Guerin, ehhe I normally think a lot.. i think my brain is fried though.. |
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| 00:47.39 | Verdin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/773658 |
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| 00:48.16 | Verdin | Heheh. At least I know how to screw up something :D. |
| 00:48.38 | liable | Verdin: when you tried to install that package, did it actually manage to install anything at all? |
| 00:48.48 | Verdin | liable: Nope. Dependency errors stopped it. |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | Verdin: btw .. this makes no damn sense |
| 00:49.05 | michael11 | What is the most popular and prefered program for an ftp server in linux? |
| 00:49.17 | Verdin | abrotman: Have I found a new way of breaking things? :D |
| 00:49.24 | liable | Verdin: remove that package (even though its the old version) whats aptitude do? |
| 00:49.44 | Verdin | liable: kdelibs4? |
| 00:49.56 | liable | Verdin: no, the one you tried to install |
| 00:50.07 | abrotman | Verdin: dpkg --get-selections libglu1-mesa |
| 00:50.39 | Verdin | liable: Nothing really. I already removed it completely. |
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| 00:51.32 | Verdin | liable: Strange how it didn't install, but still aptitude wanted to remove it. |
| 00:51.36 | Verdin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/773659 |
| 00:51.42 | abrotman | you didn't have to paste one line |
| 00:52.11 | Verdin | Oh well :) |
| 00:52.15 | abrotman | aptitude --reinstall install kdelibs4 |
| 00:52.43 | Verdin | --reinstall is an unrecognized option |
| 00:52.48 | SerajewelKS | if i want a daemon to scp a file to a remote box, what's the best way to go about that passwordlessly? |
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| 00:53.04 | liable | Verdin: aptitude reinstall foo |
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| 00:53.12 | SerajewelKS | using keys of course, but where does one put the key for a daemon process? |
| 00:53.47 | Verdin | liable: It couldn't find package named 'foo' but listed packages with 'foo' in their names |
| 00:53.53 | liable | haha |
| 00:54.01 | Verdin | What? |
| 00:54.02 | Verdin | lol |
| 00:54.07 | liable | Verdin: no, aptitude reinstall kdelibs4 |
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| 00:54.37 | Verdin | It's [Working] |
| 00:54.38 | Verdin | lol |
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| 00:54.54 | Verdin | ok |
| 00:54.55 | Verdin | now what? |
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| 00:55.23 | abrotman | wait |
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| 00:56.01 | Verdin | LOL! |
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| 00:56.15 | Verdin | It pauses at 0% [Working] |
| 00:56.26 | Verdin | For some reason it's staying there. |
| 00:57.15 | Heston | are there any docs related to installing ATI video card drivers? |
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| 00:57.54 | abrotman | !ati |
| 00:57.54 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for sid see <fglrx> |
| 00:57.55 | liable | Heston: they are available in non-free, apt-cache search fglrx |
| 00:58.02 | Verdin | I think something's wrong with apt-cdrom |
| 00:58.17 | Heston | thanks |
| 00:58.21 | jariep1_ | what is the name of the installer in debian net install and how do I start from a shel once installedl |
| 00:58.39 | liable | Verdin: have you done an aptitude update since you fixed your sources list? |
| 00:58.47 | Verdin | liable: Yep. |
| 00:59.05 | Heston | uhh, and if im running etch? |
| 00:59.22 | liable | fglrx isnt in etch? |
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| 00:59.24 | abrotman | probably see <fglrx> .. thouhg i'm not sure |
| 00:59.48 | Verdin | Aptitude hangs at "0% [Working]" when trying to reinstall kdelibs4 |
| 00:59.48 | beardy | !d-i jariep1_ |
| 00:59.49 | dpkg | jariep1_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:00.10 | beardy | jariep1_: What do you mean really? WHen you have installed, a shell (or six) is what you get. |
| 01:00.10 | jariep1_ | thanks beardy |
| 01:00.21 | Verdin | NOW it tells me to put in a CD ROM |
| 01:00.24 | argument | has anyone here had bittorrent lock up their network such that only a full powerdown/powerup of both router+computer will fix it? |
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| 01:00.49 | Verdin | And guess what? I push my CD Rom button and the drive won't open :/. |
| 01:00.51 | jariep1_ | I did a simple install with kde |
| 01:00.55 | liable | Verdin: comment the cd lines in sources list |
| 01:01.00 | argument | has anyone here had bittorrent lock up their network such that only a full powerdown/powerup of both router+computer will fix it? |
| 01:01.06 | beardy | jariep1_: No problem, "/msg dpkg ig" for the install guide. |
| 01:01.11 | jariep1_ | but there's lots I need to learn hehe |
| 01:01.20 | jariep1_ | second time I try debian |
| 01:01.20 | argument | sry for the repeat :/ |
| 01:01.31 | Verdin | liable: Changed. Update and try again? |
| 01:01.45 | beardy | jariep1_: "/msg dpkg reference" "/msg dpkg grounding" Ask if you get in trouble. |
| 01:02.02 | jariep1_ | ok |
| 01:02.08 | jariep1_ | thank you |
| 01:02.25 | liable | Verdin: yes, and paste your aptitude log to a paster |
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| 01:03.17 | abrotman | fer what? |
| 01:03.40 | Verdin | kdelibs4 to download |
| 01:03.50 | Verdin | I only pull 3x.x kb/sec off of the main debian server |
| 01:04.11 | abrotman | pick another mirror |
| 01:04.29 | Verdin | After download or before |
| 01:04.30 | Verdin | ;p |
| 01:04.37 | Verdin | err, cancel, pick, redo? |
| 01:04.57 | kingsley | Can gnome accept Japanese input? If so, how? |
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| 01:06.00 | abrotman | irc.gnome.org |
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| 01:06.24 | kantlivelong | is there any syntax problems w/ this? if [ -z "$(mount | grep ${PATH} ] bash shell |
| 01:06.31 | abrotman | ask #bash ? |
| 01:06.37 | stoned | hi |
| 01:06.48 | abrotman | loser got a job! .. hahah |
| 01:06.55 | stoned | shut yer pie hole |
| 01:06.56 | stoned | :( |
| 01:07.08 | karsten | kantlivelong: Unclosed parenthetical expression |
| 01:07.17 | kantlivelong | karsten: ah doh.. thx |
| 01:07.19 | karsten | abrotman: ?? stoned? |
| 01:07.35 | abrotman | karsten!! |
| 01:07.40 | karsten | kantlivelong: if [ -z "$( mount | grep ${PATH})" ]; then ... |
| 01:07.41 | stoned | I'm tired man |
| 01:07.45 | stoned | working sucks |
| 01:07.47 | karsten | abrotman: ;; |
| 01:08.01 | kantlivelong | karsten: yeah i see now.. thx :) |
| 01:08.01 | karsten | stoned: Smoke a bowl. |
| 01:08.08 | stoned | karsten, good timing |
| 01:08.12 | karsten | ;-) |
| 01:08.24 | stoned | abrotman, I hear you're in love with Dell |
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| 01:08.35 | abrotman | stoned: they sent me crap to try to entice me |
| 01:08.46 | marco__ | what package do I want if I want to setup a mail server (incoming, I guess I use sendmail for outgoing)? |
| 01:08.55 | karsten | abrotman: Do you prefer dog, cat, horse, bull, or human? |
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| 01:09.04 | abrotman | marco__: use what you want |
| 01:09.07 | abrotman | karsten: turkey |
| 01:09.09 | itrebal | is there a way to boot debian without using an initrd? |
| 01:09.12 | stoned | abrotman, seriously, if you ever want to discuss or vent about Dell, go for it, I'm all ears, because I'd like to hear your reasons |
| 01:09.13 | marco__ | abrotman, what's thte most common? |
| 01:09.15 | liable | and duct tape |
| 01:09.16 | karsten | marco__: exim2, postfix... |
| 01:09.25 | liable | exim2! |
| 01:09.25 | stoned | abrotman, of course, outside #debian |
| 01:09.26 | karsten | itrebal: Yes. |
| 01:09.33 | karsten | Erm. Exim4. |
| 01:09.37 | itrebal | karsten: how would i do it? everything i've read says i need it |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | stoned: they make crap :) |
| 01:09.48 | marco__ | abrotman, my exim2 |
| 01:09.52 | marco__ | *why |
| 01:09.52 | stoned | abrotman, I disagree |
| 01:09.58 | abrotman | stoned: you're paid to disagree |
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| 01:10.05 | marco__ | isn't exim in version 4.x |
| 01:10.10 | stoned | abrotman, no, I'm paid to work, not to like my work |
| 01:10.10 | karsten | itrebal: Build your own kernel with all modules required for boot prebuilt into the kernel. I'd recommend using an initrd myself, it's more straightforward, really. |
| 01:10.24 | itrebal | i've done it without one but it complains it cant access my harddisk or anything along those lines, and panicks |
| 01:10.34 | abrotman | stoned: that's fine .. you're paid by dell .. you're not exactly objective |
| 01:10.37 | karsten | itrebal: That is: no modular kernels for filesystems, devices, etc., required to mount root filesystem. |
| 01:10.48 | marco__ | The only neat thing about dells is the internal configuration |
| 01:10.49 | karsten | itrebal: Prolly not an initrd issue in and of itself. |
| 01:10.51 | marco__ | no screws |
| 01:11.00 | abrotman | marco__: many computers have that |
| 01:11.12 | itrebal | i've tried making initrd's before, but when i dpkg them i get the error: Errors were encountered while processing: kernel-image-2.6.17 and /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.17: Not a directory\n /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: MODULES needs to be set to none? |
| 01:11.18 | stoned | abrotman, not really, I've used a few dell products personally and I love them. However, I have no idea about the server side of their products |
| 01:11.29 | karsten | abrotman: Sorry, all out of turkeycrap. How about chickensh*t? |
| 01:11.33 | abrotman | they're crap! |
| 01:11.39 | stoned | abrotman, for example, I'd never buy a dell system |
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| 01:11.50 | Verdin | liable: http://pastebin.com/773663 |
| 01:11.51 | abrotman | well golly .. that'd make them crap i suppse :) |
| 01:11.51 | stoned | abrotman, but I might buy a good digicam if they have a good deal |
| 01:12.16 | abrotman | Verdin: and aptitude upgrade does the samet hing ? |
| 01:12.18 | abrotman | same thing |
| 01:12.31 | Verdin | Verdin: What do you mean? |
| 01:12.34 | Verdin | Err |
| 01:12.35 | Verdin | lol |
| 01:12.40 | Verdin | abrotman: What do you mean? |
| 01:12.41 | abrotman | karsten: probably got the boss stoned .. and they lost stuff |
| 01:12.49 | abrotman | Verdin: aptitude upgrade .. does it do it again ? |
| 01:13.09 | karsten | abrotman: Got the munchies, though "Silicon chips, hey! I can eat those..." |
| 01:13.13 | Verdin | abrotman: Does it do /what/ again? |
| 01:13.19 | abrotman | try to remove kde? |
| 01:13.32 | abrotman | (most consider this a good thing .. but we'll continue) |
| 01:13.41 | Verdin | Aptitude upgrade seems fine |
| 01:13.44 | liable | Verdin: short term memory problem? :) |
| 01:13.45 | itrebal | karsten: http://itrebal.itrebal.com:8000/kernel_errors thats all the output i'm getting when i try to install it, and have no idea how to move on |
| 01:13.48 | stoned | abrotman, you know I've noticed that you dislike more things than you like things |
| 01:13.50 | Verdin | nah |
| 01:14.02 | Verdin | It's been a while since we referenced the removal of files |
| 01:14.04 | abrotman | stoned: not at all .. i think IBM makes good stuff .. as does HP .. |
| 01:14.05 | stoned | abrotman, do we need to get you high? |
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| 01:14.13 | Verdin | abrotman: but it was aptitude install that was causing problems. |
| 01:14.18 | abrotman | fine whatever! |
| 01:14.20 | abrotman | just do it! |
| 01:14.21 | liable | so try that... |
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| 01:14.27 | plasmo | hey |
| 01:14.30 | abrotman | but not that stupid package from sid |
| 01:14.40 | plasmo | how do I change the bcast ip in ifconfig for eth0? |
| 01:14.50 | abrotman | man 5 interfaces |
| 01:14.53 | karsten | itrebal: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.17: Not a directory |
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| 01:15.02 | stoned | abrotman, and I agree completely, but I don't know enough about Dell server products to say if Dell makes crap or if it doesn't. I've worked with IBM and HP machines but never with any Dell machines. |
| 01:15.06 | Verdin | abrotman: aptitude install still wants to remove my entire hard drive, basically :P. |
| 01:15.10 | karsten | itrebal: You appear to have a packaging problem. Where'd you get your kernel? |
| 01:15.14 | itrebal | karsten: i compiled it |
| 01:15.15 | abrotman | Verdin: good job! |
| 01:15.26 | karsten | itrebal: Debian way or by hand? |
| 01:15.27 | Verdin | abrotman: What? |
| 01:15.29 | itrebal | with make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 01:15.36 | karsten | !tell itrebal about mke-kpkg |
| 01:15.37 | abrotman | Verdin: what are you trying to install ? |
| 01:15.40 | sid | !confuse Verdin |
| 01:15.40 | karsten | itrebal: How'd you install it? |
| 01:15.40 | dpkg | No, where is my pants today, Verdin? pants of the people's republic of mongolia with extra ham |
| 01:15.43 | liable | Verdin: paste your aptitude log |
| 01:15.55 | itrebal | dpkg -i kernel-image... |
| 01:16.21 | karsten | itrebal: Are you running that kernel right now? If not, you're going to need to specify the kernel whose initrd you want built. Installation step should manage that. |
| 01:16.24 | Verdin | liable: http://pastebin.com/773664 |
| 01:16.29 | abrotman | Verdin: what are you trying to install ? |
| 01:16.30 | plasmo | how do I change the bcast ip in ifconfig for eth0? |
| 01:16.31 | itrebal | karsten: nope, i can't boot to it |
| 01:16.36 | abrotman | plasmo: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:16.46 | plasmo | I can't figure it out |
| 01:16.51 | plasmo | whats the command to do it? |
| 01:16.53 | liable | Verdin: no, /var/log/aptitude |
| 01:17.05 | Verdin | Oh. |
| 01:17.09 | stoned | aptitute is great |
| 01:17.11 | abrotman | plasmo: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:17.21 | stoned | !tell abrotman about repeat |
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| 01:17.33 | abrotman | !tell stoned about sing bob2 |
| 01:17.57 | stoned | !seen bob2 |
| 01:17.57 | dpkg | bob2 <n=bob4@ble59-5-82-233-207-9.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 50m 3s ago, saying: 'guerin fake ass yoursel'. |
| 01:17.58 | karsten | abrotman: Speaking of whom, where *is* bob2? |
| 01:18.11 | abrotman | karsten: rumor is he's ok ... |
| 01:18.13 | karsten | No kidding. |
| 01:18.25 | abrotman | someone mentioned a while ago that he found a girl ... |
| 01:18.31 | abrotman | or maybe she found him |
| 01:18.36 | abrotman | or maybe she bought him .. nfc |
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| 01:18.49 | stoned | man |
| 01:18.49 | Verdin | liable: http://pastebin.com/773665 |
| 01:18.57 | karsten | abrotman: That'll do it. |
| 01:19.00 | stoned | there are so many hot women at work |
| 01:19.03 | abrotman | karsten: you'd know :) |
| 01:19.05 | numist | is there a howto somewhere for doing a net-install from a flash drive? |
| 01:19.11 | stoned | and they all dress up and look pretty all the time too |
| 01:19.12 | stoned | its great |
| 01:19.12 | abrotman | stoned: but they work at dell .. must not be very smart :) |
| 01:19.25 | stoned | dude, work is work, shame on you for grilling anyone for it |
| 01:19.35 | abrotman | yeah . i'm glad you got a job so you can buy more drugs :) |
| 01:19.36 | karsten | stoned: You work with Ellen Feiss? |
| 01:19.38 | stoned | it WAS funny but not its just old |
| 01:19.41 | stoned | now* |
| 01:19.45 | liable | Verdin: dude, did you do an upgrade while you had unstable sources? |
| 01:19.55 | stoned | word |
| 01:20.00 | Verdin | liable: I may have... O.o |
| 01:20.16 | abrotman | stoned: when does school start? |
| 01:20.18 | liable | Verdin: your fucked if you did.. :) |
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| 01:20.34 | stoned | abrotman, soon, but maybe not |
| 01:20.40 | Verdin | liable: What if I didn't? |
| 01:20.44 | liable | Verdin: dpkg -l libc6, what version? |
| 01:20.46 | abrotman | stoned: if you worked and schooled .. no time for stoned :) |
| 01:20.48 | stoned | abrotman, with this job, no more financial aid, I didn't qualify |
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| 01:21.03 | stoned | last year I did, cuz I wasn't working |
| 01:21.09 | Z_Morek | abrotman there's time for stoned amongst worked and schooled |
| 01:21.11 | mhall | stoned: yo bro |
| 01:21.13 | Z_Morek | it's all about time management |
| 01:21.13 | Verdin | liable: 2.3.2.ds1-22sa |
| 01:21.20 | stoned | mhall, hey dude man homie bro |
| 01:21.23 | stoned | whats going on |
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| 01:21.29 | liable | Verdin: you have sarge? |
| 01:21.29 | abrotman | Verdin: apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 01:21.46 | criminy | I came in here a couple days ago trying to get my ipw2100 wireless card working in debian. Still no luck |
| 01:21.47 | Verdin | liable: Yes. |
| 01:21.59 | itrebal | karsten: alright, i'm running the suggested command for compiling the kernel and all, and it said somethigna bout cramfs needing to be patched - while also saying it is usually fixed in current architectures and kernel versions, need i worry? |
| 01:22.02 | liable | Verdin: dpkg -l konsole |
| 01:22.03 | abrotman | m-a a-i ipw2100 ? |
| 01:22.08 | stoned | criminy, that seems to be a popular card there |
| 01:22.13 | criminy | abrotman: didn't work |
| 01:22.15 | stoned | I see a lot of people asking for support on that |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | why not ? |
| 01:22.25 | karsten | itrebal: Post output. Rebuild should do that. |
| 01:22.37 | Verdin | liable: 3.3.2-1sarge1 |
| 01:22.47 | Verdin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/773667 |
| 01:22.48 | liable | Verdin: thats good then |
| 01:22.54 | criminy | ieee1934 didn't compile. Installed manually. then ipw2100 didn't compile. Installed manually. Then firmware won't work |
| 01:23.03 | Verdin | liable: I'm not completely messed up? |
| 01:23.14 | abrotman | criminy: which kernle ? |
| 01:23.27 | itrebal | karsten: http://itrebal.itrebal.com:8000/kernel_errors at the bottom |
| 01:23.30 | criminy | lemme boot it up |
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| 01:23.31 | abrotman | Verdin: well .. that's it .. i'm stumped .. let it remove everything .. then reinstall kde :) |
| 01:23.47 | Verdin | abrotman: it wants to remove XFree86 and everything else too. |
| 01:23.58 | criminy | 2.6.16-2-686 |
| 01:24.09 | abrotman | so yu'll reinstall it :) |
| 01:24.12 | karsten | itrebal: Ignore the message and respond 'N'. |
| 01:24.25 | liable | Verdin: there may be hope yet, we just need to find what aptitude hates about your system |
| 01:24.28 | karsten | itrebal: The problem though is above: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.17: Not a directory |
| 01:24.45 | abrotman | Verdin: what's the output of apt-get -f install ? |
| 01:24.48 | karsten | The actual initrd modules directoryu is probably going to be /lib/modules/2.6.17_10.00.Custom_i386 |
| 01:24.56 | Verdin | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/773669 |
| 01:24.57 | stoned | hey |
| 01:24.58 | Verdin | liable: http://pastebin.com/773669 |
| 01:24.59 | abrotman | Verdin: what's the output of apt-get -f install ? |
| 01:25.01 | karsten | itrebal: Can you check if that (or something similar) exists? |
| 01:25.16 | stoned | is it just me, am I totally wasted or is the new etch installer out? |
| 01:25.17 | Verdin | abrotman: Nothing interesting. 0/0/0 |
| 01:25.31 | abrotman | karsten: doesn't work |
| 01:25.33 | karsten | stoned: ENONEXCLUSIVEPROPOSITION |
| 01:25.47 | criminy | When it boots up, it has eth0 and eth1, eth1 provided by eth1934 and not ipw2100. and eth1 has no wireless extentions |
| 01:25.48 | stoned | ? |
| 01:26.06 | numist | :/ |
| 01:26.20 | karsten | stoned: I believe I saw a preview release of the etch installer. Wouldn't surprise me as it's got to be ready prior to release. |
| 01:26.25 | itrebal | karsten: i've got several similar, variations on the theme of 2.6.17.2006082203 |
| 01:26.29 | abrotman | i gave my crappy solution |
| 01:26.38 | Verdin | abrotman: Reinstall Debian :D |
| 01:26.38 | Verdin | ? |
| 01:26.46 | abrotman | no .. that's not required |
| 01:26.46 | karsten | itrebal: Post a directory listing of /lib/modules, ls -l |
| 01:26.54 | Verdin | abrotman: Oh. |
| 01:27.04 | criminy | I'll have to leave this room, maybe there is an update in the past couple days that could help. No more ethernet drops here =( |
| 01:27.08 | itrebal | karsten: that file is updated |
| 01:27.19 | liable | Verdin: can you install something with apt-get without it moaning? |
| 01:27.37 | karsten | itrebal: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-08-22 21:25 2.6.17_10.00.Custom_i386 |
| 01:27.44 | Verdin | liable: example? |
| 01:27.45 | karsten | itrebal: You're going to want to read the mkinitrd manpage. |
| 01:27.46 | itrebal | karsten: right, i just did create the folder |
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| 01:27.59 | itrebal | and i'm reading right now |
| 01:28.00 | liable | Verdin: i dunno, pick a package and install it |
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| 01:28.06 | criminy_ | on the lappy |
| 01:28.12 | Verdin | liable: apt-get or aptitude? |
| 01:28.19 | liable | Verdin: apt-get |
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| 01:28.31 | Verdin | liable: Irssi maybe? |
| 01:28.35 | liable | Verdin: sure |
| 01:28.44 | liable | Verdin: irssi-text |
| 01:28.44 | Verdin | E: Package irssi has no installation candidate |
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| 01:28.50 | stoned | oh wtf am I on about. I have not had the time to even sleep lately really. beta3 installer was released 11 aug |
| 01:28.54 | karsten | itrebal: mkinitrd -d /lib/modules/2.6.17_10.00.Custom_i386 -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17_10.00.Custom_i386 2.6.17_10.00.Custom_i386 |
| 01:28.57 | karsten | itrebal: ... I think |
| 01:29.01 | karsten | itrebal: Play with that. |
| 01:29.20 | liable | criminy_: didnt you have compile time problems with ipw? |
| 01:29.34 | Verdin | Oh |
| 01:29.36 | itrebal | karsten: alright, thanks |
| 01:29.39 | karsten | itrebal: Um. You *manually* created that directory (they're _not_ "folders") or it was generated by installing the package? |
| 01:29.39 | stoned | at this speed its going to be crawling-slow getting the Urdu localization going |
| 01:29.45 | Verdin | liable: One moment. |
| 01:29.58 | Verdin | liable: It installed. |
| 01:30.06 | stoned | good thing I started on it a few weeks ago before I had to work |
| 01:30.07 | itrebal | karsten: right, thats what i meant - and yes, i did manually create the directory (prod it along) |
| 01:30.10 | stoned | god I hate work |
| 01:30.20 | liable | Verdin: ok, apt-get purge aptitude; apt-get install aptitude |
| 01:30.25 | itrebal | stoned: me too :/ |
| 01:30.33 | karsten | itrebal: Um. You need the librraies compiled with the kernel. 'dpkg -L' on your kernel package to see where it put those. |
| 01:30.38 | criminy_ | liable: yeah |
| 01:30.40 | criminy_ | only with m-a |
| 01:30.42 | Verdin | liable: E: Invalid operation purge |
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| 01:30.52 | liable | Verdin: remove --purge |
| 01:30.57 | karsten | itrebal: Perhaps a symlink from that (the package's module dir) to directory you just created. |
| 01:31.07 | itrebal | karsten: alright |
| 01:31.25 | liable | criminy_: but now it wont start? |
| 01:31.26 | itrebal | ugh |
| 01:31.27 | karsten | itrebal: Don't manually fuck with your packages, it's bad news, unless ou *rally* know what you're doing. |
| 01:31.35 | itrebal | karsten: alright |
| 01:31.43 | karsten | s/rally/really/ |
| 01:31.45 | Verdin | liable: Now what? |
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| 01:32.02 | liable | Verdin: you removed and installed it? |
| 01:32.03 | Verdin | APTITUDE IS FIXED! |
| 01:32.05 | Verdin | APTITUDE IS FIXED! |
| 01:32.07 | stoned | dude |
| 01:32.31 | Verdin | That was a simple fix. |
| 01:32.36 | karsten | Verdin: So, n children for aptitude? |
| 01:32.38 | karsten | s/n/no/ |
| 01:32.46 | liable | hehe |
| 01:32.48 | Verdin | karsten: Huh? |
| 01:32.52 | liable | !fix aptitude |
| 01:32.53 | Verdin | OH |
| 01:32.53 | Verdin | lol |
| 01:32.55 | kepht | strange to have a redhat email address in the boot up messages on Etch |
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| 01:33.09 | Verdin | YAY!!! |
| 01:33.14 | Verdin | How come we didn't try that simple fix earlier |
| 01:33.14 | karsten | kepht: Um. Not really. Standard copyright stuff. |
| 01:33.21 | Verdin | I tried removing aptitude but I didn't --purge. |
| 01:33.42 | liable | Verdin: only use aptitude from now on, dont use both |
| 01:33.59 | Guerin | well, I just palid a complaint about the eejit who sent me a box with a cpu with one pin snapped off # define futility |
| 01:34.09 | Verdin | liable: Yes (sir/mam/?) :D |
| 01:34.14 | Guerin | s/palid/laid/ |
| 01:34.35 | karsten | Guerin: You laid an eegit? |
| 01:34.45 | Verdin | liable: Can I get something that will theme gnome for me? |
| 01:34.53 | Verdin | liable: kinda like gnome-art? |
| 01:35.10 | liable | Verdin: there are themes, yeah. i dont know much about it though |
| 01:35.15 | karsten | Guerin: It would be much better if all eegits were required to wear plaid. Makes 'em much easier to ID. |
| 01:35.28 | Verdin | liable: You don't use themes? |
| 01:35.44 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:35.51 | kepht | and "initialised" is on that same line |
| 01:35.52 | liable | Verdin: i havent bothered much, no. |
| 01:35.57 | Guerin | karsten: many do of their own accord, but there are always stealth eejits |
| 01:36.19 | Verdin | liable: Next issue, lots smaller. How do I get my scrollwheel on my mouse to work? |
| 01:36.21 | karsten | Guerin: Stealth eegits are easy. |
| 01:36.26 | karsten | Guerin: They wear black. |
| 01:36.33 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:36.49 | karsten | Guerin: "Goth" is an ancient African word for .... |
| 01:36.57 | Guerin | karsten: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=194751&cid=15958268 # never a truer word spoken on /. |
| 01:36.58 | liable | Verdin: ask the chanell, i dont know everything :) (but its in XFree86.conf) |
| 01:37.07 | Verdin | Okie dokie |
| 01:37.11 | liable | !drxx Verdin |
| 01:37.11 | dpkg | Verdin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:37.39 | karsten | Guerin: OTOH, I really *did* like "Dark City" |
| 01:37.58 | Guerin | haven't seen it |
| 01:38.07 | karsten | Guerin: Do. |
| 01:38.10 | Guerin | firefly/serenity were good though |
| 01:38.23 | karsten | Guerin: Oh, wait, that's not Wheadon. |
| 01:38.32 | karsten | Guerin: Alex Proyas. |
| 01:39.02 | karsten | Guerin: Do, but *skip* the spoken intro by Kiefer Sutherland, up to the point he looks at his watch. |
| 01:39.15 | karsten | Guerin: It's got about a bazillion stupid-ass spoilers in it. |
| 01:39.22 | karsten | Guerin: ... right at the start of the flick. |
| 01:39.48 | karsten | Guerin: Speaking as a straight guy, Rufus Sewell is amazing. |
| 01:40.02 | karsten | Guerin: ...and speaking as a straight guy, Jennifer Connelley is even better. |
| 01:40.20 | Verdin | When I'm asked what entry describes my mouse, what should I choose for a mouse with a clickable scrollwheel? PS/2, ImPS/2, GlidePointPS/2, NetMousePS/2, ThinkingMousePS/2, MouseManPlusPS/2, or ExplorerPS/2? |
| 01:40.36 | karsten | Verdin: ImPS/2 |
| 01:40.40 | predder | how can I find what my current system clock is? |
| 01:40.49 | karsten | predder: Pardon? |
| 01:40.54 | Guerin | predder: date |
| 01:41.00 | Verdin | karsten: Emulate 3 buttons? |
| 01:41.07 | Verdin | Yeah |
| 01:41.09 | predder | thanks Guerin |
| 01:41.23 | karsten | Verdin: Got three buttons? (Wheel == button FYI). |
| 01:41.29 | predder | karsten, I used explorerps/2 and it works with 3 buttons + wheel |
| 01:41.34 | karsten | Verdin: ... if so, no. If you choose yes, it doesn't hurt anything. |
| 01:42.04 | predder | oh wait, i meant to say Verdin. |
| 01:42.16 | Verdin | ??? |
| 01:42.30 | Verdin | Let me try restarting X and see if it works ;D |
| 01:42.33 | predder | ExplorerPS/2 |
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| 01:44.18 | gukren | problem faxing with efax, got Warning: /dev/ttySL0 locked. anyone here using efax? |
| 01:44.35 | karsten | gukren: fuser /dev/ttySL0 |
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| 01:44.39 | Verdin | And it works :) |
| 01:44.42 | karsten | gukren: and that should be /dev/ttyS0 |
| 01:45.07 | Verdin | My mouse is now at full power, lol. |
| 01:45.36 | gukren | karsten: /dev/ttySL0 is correct, i m using the SmartLink slmodem driver. |
| 01:45.36 | abrotman | FULL POWER! |
| 01:45.47 | abrotman | eww |
| 01:45.50 | abrotman | i have that |
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| 01:46.27 | abrotman | and that device probably is locked |
| 01:46.35 | karsten | abrotman: ? |
| 01:46.41 | abrotman | cows |
| 01:46.51 | gukren | locked? how to unlock it? |
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| 01:47.03 | Verdin | liable: Why is aptitude better than apt-get? |
| 01:47.17 | karsten | gukren: It's locked if either you don't have access to it or another process is using it. |
| 01:47.26 | karsten | gukren: Check premissions, kill other process(es). |
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| 01:47.41 | abrotman | be in dialout group ? |
| 01:47.54 | karsten | abrotman: Point |
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| 01:48.05 | karsten | gukren: adduser $USER dialout |
| 01:48.07 | gukren | karsten: so your earlier fuser command is not necessary? |
| 01:48.12 | karsten | gukren: ... and log out and log back in. |
| 01:48.12 | liable | Verdin: for one, it keeps logs, which is very usefull, its also got good dependancy resolving bits (though i dont think the sarge one has that) |
| 01:48.16 | psychonate | I really need to get a good identify script for xchat |
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| 01:48.30 | karsten | gukren: 'fuser' shows what user(s) are accessing a file. |
| 01:48.33 | karsten | psychonate: irssi. |
| 01:48.46 | gukren | ok |
| 01:48.50 | Verdin | liable: Okie dokie. |
| 01:49.03 | liable | Verdin: it also keeps track of what was automatically installed (as depends) so if you remove the original package, it removes the depends too |
| 01:49.11 | psychonate | karsten, i'll consider it |
| 01:49.22 | karsten | !tell Verdin about aptitude |
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| 01:50.28 | akriel | what is the bennifit of using lvm? I actually do not know anything about it. just reading around the net on it. |
| 01:50.38 | liable | i need to write a resume, but i suck at word processors :/ |
| 01:50.50 | Guerin | liable: write it in TeX |
| 01:50.50 | akriel | why would i want to use lvm over the "traditional" way |
| 01:50.51 | psychonate | liable, er |
| 01:51.02 | psychonate | liable, how is it possible to "suck" at word processors? |
| 01:51.11 | karsten | akriel: It's a mixed bag. Benefit is you have more flexible storage management. Downside is you have more complicated storage management. |
| 01:51.15 | Guerin | akriel: so you can get your four 80G drives to look like a single 320G drive |
| 01:51.22 | psychonate | ah, well, I guess it could be tricky with a resume, formatting and all |
| 01:51.26 | karsten | akriel: IMO for most systems LVM isn't particularly beneficial. |
| 01:51.26 | liable | psychonate: i dont know, but i do :) |
| 01:51.32 | akriel | ok ty |
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| 01:51.56 | psychonate | liable, maybe you could find a nice resume template |
| 01:52.06 | psychonate | liable, via google or the like |
| 01:52.30 | Guerin | careful with resume templates |
| 01:52.32 | liable | psychonate: yeah, looked, but then i need to add tables and shit, and i can never seem to get it right, takes me ages |
| 01:52.47 | liable | Guerin: meta data? |
| 01:52.50 | Guerin | if you apply for any moderately popular job you're liable <heh> to choose the same one as someone or three else |
| 01:52.55 | psychonate | liable, point taken |
| 01:53.02 | Guerin | liable: metadata too, yeah, but that tends to be editable |
| 01:53.45 | Guerin | liable: i recommend making a resume using no tables or fancy bullshit at all in openoffice.org and exporting it to pdf |
| 01:54.24 | liable | Guerin: i need .doc (most companies mention that in the adds) which is fine, oo does .doc |
| 01:54.34 | Guerin | yeah, i'd prefer to write mine in html too |
| 01:54.47 | Guerin | fuckinghell |
| 01:54.54 | Guerin | doc is the stupidest format possible for a resume |
| 01:55.04 | abrotman | ever? |
| 01:55.12 | abrotman | i mean .. jpg might be pretty bad |
| 01:55.20 | karsten | Guerin: A lot of resume update systems rely on "doc" formats. |
| 01:55.22 | Guerin | well, there may have been stupier formats in the past, but it's the stupidest format NOW |
| 01:55.23 | liable | shrug, adding that to my resume prolly wont get me brownie points :) |
| 01:55.31 | karsten | Guerin: Mine is actually RTF, relabled. |
| 01:55.40 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:55.53 | Guerin | i find that oo.o's rtf export often fucks itself in the arse |
| 01:56.06 | Guerin | which is not very nice when you have to hand it in to a professor, for instance |
| 01:56.43 | psychonate | Guerin, "hand-in" as in email, or "hand-in" as in print off and physically deliver? |
| 01:57.33 | Guerin | psychonate: both - the U requires us to submit to a CMS so they can run it through anti-plagiarism software |
| 01:57.37 | karsten | liable: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/resume-makefile |
| 01:57.53 | karsten | liable: A couple of additional scripts required for that, I need to properly clean that up for generic use. |
| 01:58.24 | liable | karsten: you should package that :) |
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| 01:58.48 | karsten | liable: core is a 'resume.d' directory with a set of file fragments in it: 01_header, 05_body-start, 10_address, 20_availability, 30_objective, 40_skills, |
| 01:58.52 | karsten | 50_accomplishments, 60_employment, 70_publications, 80_education, 90_interests, |
| 01:58.54 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: that's why I give my professors latex files. |
| 01:58.54 | karsten | 99_tail |
| 01:59.28 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: the faculty of HumSocSci won't wear that, unfortunately |
| 01:59.31 | karsten | liable: (wups, was supposed to be one line), header/tail are HTML bits, remainder are what they appear to be. Finished result: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/resume.html |
| 01:59.41 | liable | karsten: dude, i cant work out oo, i will be an old man by the time i work that thing out :) |
| 01:59.52 | karsten | liable: Can you hand-tool HTML? |
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| 02:00.55 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: oh, I deny that college's existance. |
| 02:00.59 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:01.02 | liable | karsten: yeah, but i suck at that too |
| 02:01.37 | liable | karsten: point, i am not good at much! |
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| 02:01.57 | karsten | liable: ... you're now good at less. |
| 02:02.04 | liable | yay! |
| 02:02.08 | quintin | Can someone here help me with a wireless problem please? |
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| 02:02.45 | liable | quintin: sure, if you supply the channel with the problem we may be able to help |
| 02:02.58 | lightcap | I seem to have completely bjorked my postgres 8.1 packages on sarge... how do remove a package if it's failing to be removed: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7uTBuM91.html |
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| 02:03.46 | lightcap | I was simply trying to get my postgresql-client packages to 8.1.4 to match what I *had* for the server packages |
| 02:03.51 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: in this case, just add exit 0; to the top of the /var/lib/dpkg/info/postresql-control-8.1.postinst and/or prerm; files. |
| 02:04.18 | quintin | I am using ubuntu linux and I cannot get my prism2 card to connect. I got it specifcally because it was supposed to be supported in linux. I see ESSID of router in this dropdown list in gnome network settings, but it won't connect to network |
| 02:04.20 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: alternatively, make sure you have the proper version of postgresql-common installed, which actually provides the /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions |
| 02:04.27 | dondelelcaro | quintin: you really need to ask in #ubuntu |
| 02:04.28 | karsten | !ubuntu |
| 02:04.28 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 02:04.32 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: would you mind explaining what that does? |
| 02:04.53 | liable | quintin: we would love to help, but you need to ask in #ubuntu |
| 02:04.59 | quintin | dondelelcaro: asked there before, no help |
| 02:05.05 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: the common package seemed to have started the whole debacle |
| 02:05.05 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: that basically just bails out of the postinst and/or prerm without doing anything |
| 02:05.08 | grendelson | karsten, That script is fantastic - I've been job searchign and getting so confused over which version of my resume to post! OO seems to add 100K everytim I save a 35K file as *.doc! |
| 02:05.08 | karsten | quintin: Not our problem. |
| 02:05.17 | grendelson | some sites won't let me post that! |
| 02:05.17 | karsten | grendelson: Danke. |
| 02:05.23 | grendelson | Bitte scon |
| 02:05.25 | grendelson | schon |
| 02:05.57 | grendelson | karsten, So does every file there start from the HTML resume? |
| 02:05.58 | karsten | grendelson: scone would work too, I'm a bit peckish. |
| 02:06.03 | karsten | grendelson: Yes. |
| 02:06.17 | karsten | grendelson: More specifically, the template fragments in resume.d |
| 02:06.27 | lightcap | dpkg -l is showing postgresql-common version 59 with "rU" in the status column...how do I get that to go back to the version I need |
| 02:06.28 | dpkg | No packages found matching is showing postgresql-common version 59 with "rU" in the status column...how do I get that to go back to the version I need |
| 02:06.37 | karsten | grendelson: ... and if you want to create different variants, you can create child directories of form resume-variant.d |
| 02:06.43 | grendelson | Ah so I f I have one resume I am happy with in html format - run this script against it --Oh there is more OK - You shoudl truly package that .... |
| 02:06.45 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: as far as the -common package causing it; it actually would be the removing and/or deleting of those files that caused it. |
| 02:06.56 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: just tell apt-get to install the appropriate version of the -common package. |
| 02:06.58 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: true. |
| 02:06.59 | karsten | grendelson: Heh! |
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| 02:07.19 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: but how do I know which is the one it wants? |
| 02:07.30 | lightcap | I thought 59 was what it wanted to do the upgrade. |
| 02:07.31 | dondelelcaro | !depends postgresql-server-8.1 |
| 02:07.40 | karsten | grendelson: "make all" builds all formats. "make subdirs" makes all variants. "make rsync" posts it to my website. |
| 02:07.43 | grendelson | I spent an hour trying to get OO to stop adding the 100K to every .doc it saved. I finally had to go back to my windows machien adn upload the file! :-( |
| 02:07.55 | grendelson | karsten, brilliant |
| 02:07.56 | dondelelcaro | !depends postgresql-8.1 |
| 02:08.01 | dpkg | postgresql-8.1: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcomerr2 (>= 1.33-3), libkrb53 (>= 1.4.2), libpam0g (>= 0.76), libpq4 (>= 8.1.4), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8b-1), postgresql-client-8.1, postgresql-common (>= 39) |
| 02:08.09 | karsten | grendelson: I've had no complaints in several years with my RTF-based "DOC" resume. |
| 02:08.11 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: see above; just look at the dependency output. |
| 02:08.17 | lightcap | yep, looking |
| 02:08.29 | grendelson | karsten, That was going to be one of my questions - I love the way to "tricked" it into doc... |
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| 02:08.41 | grendelson | I had not though of merely renaming rtf to .doc... |
| 02:08.41 | karsten | grendelson: :-) |
| 02:09.07 | karsten | grendelson: Word is notoriously promiscuous in dealing with various file formats. So I figured RTF would be close enough. Turns out it is. |
| 02:09.34 | grendelson | heh Word is promiscuous. The little whore... |
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| 02:09.50 | grendelson | Now if she'd stop infecting everything ! |
| 02:09.54 | karsten | grendelson: This mostly feeds systems which are VBA-based resume uptake systems. No reason they couldn't take straight text, but they either don't or the recruiters won't accept 'em. |
| 02:10.22 | karsten | grendelson: Quite. You can also rename a 'DOC' as 'RTF' and infect via macro viruses, etc., or at least could for some time. |
| 02:11.01 | grendelson | karsten, I've spent years as windows systme admin. Trying to break into a *nix job. I'm surprised by how many Linux job postings want *.doc only (recruiters I reckong) |
| 02:11.22 | karsten | grendelson: The good ones don't. |
| 02:11.23 | Guerin | grendelson: HR departments are no different in tech companies to elsewhere |
| 02:11.24 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: if it depends on >=39 why won't it accept 59? |
| 02:11.31 | karsten | grendelson: HTML, PDF, or straight text. |
| 02:11.39 | Guerin | translation: HR are fucking morons everywhere |
| 02:11.46 | karsten | Guerin: Aye. |
| 02:11.49 | liable | heh, thats true |
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| 02:12.02 | grendelson | Guerin, Ouch... I have to kiss their buttocks while searchign for a job - I can hate them AFTER I have a new job :-) |
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| 02:12.14 | Guerin | here in NZ we found that everyone would accept pdf resumes, though |
| 02:12.26 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: it probably will, but the output that you're showing originally indicates that it wasn't even installed (or had had parts of it deleted) |
| 02:12.28 | Guerin | this time around - not true last time we were applying for jobs 4 years ago and so |
| 02:12.39 | vinay | my .xinitrc starts up xscreensaver and enlightenment... im trying to access the machine rmeotely... i start up vncserver, which doesnt state any errors upon starting up.. when i connect with vncviewer, it seems to not launch any window manager.. just seeing a grey screen with a working cursor |
| 02:12.59 | karsten | Guerin: Another reason for requesting word (particularly for body shops) is that they'll rework the resume. PDFs make that harder. |
| 02:13.01 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: right, but I was trying to install it, so how do I get it to actually take? |
| 02:13.08 | grendelson | Guerin, Right - My thought as well - pdf could be a standard format so I was surprised it wasnt "the" format requested. That way no loss of formatting etc... |
| 02:13.25 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: apt-get --reinstall install postgresql-common; then see what else is still broken. |
| 02:13.49 | grendelson | karsten, Good point... |
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| 02:14.31 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: it's saying that postgresql-common depends on postgresql-client-common but it's not going to be installed |
| 02:14.56 | lightcap | and then this madness: Depends: ssl-cert (>= 1.0.11) but 1.0-11 is to be installed |
| 02:15.16 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: 1.0.11 is >> 1.0-11. |
| 02:15.29 | lightcap | heh...oops |
| 02:15.34 | lightcap | reading too fast |
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| 02:16.22 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: is it best to download the package and install it with dpkg? or is there a better way to keep my system cleaner? |
| 02:16.38 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: what are you trying to do ? |
| 02:16.43 | vinay | im having issues usinv vnc.... my .xinitrc starts up xscreensaver and enlightenment... im trying to access the machine rmeotely... i start up vncserver, which doesnt state any errors upon starting up.. when i connect with vncviewer, it seems to not launch any window manager.. just seeing a grey screen with a working cursor .. any thoughts? |
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| 02:17.42 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: I had 8.1.4 installed (I believe they were backports), I was getting errors on backups of my postgresql db's complaining about the version number of the client being 8.1.3 (I had tried to upgrade the client before and ran into this issue, so I quit) |
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| 02:18.06 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: I just want 8.1.4 consistently on all packages for postgresql on sarge. |
| 02:19.34 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: though I thought I had built my own backports from etch until I saw the "bpo" in the version numbers as I was stumbling thru all this today |
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| 02:20.42 | lightcap | sorry I think I meant sid not etch |
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| 02:22.51 | dondelelcaro | if the beta 3 doesn't install, please file bugs. [Esp. if it also doesn't install with the weekly snapshot] |
| 02:23.17 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: yeah, best to get the packages from backports.org if you can; they have all the packages that you'd need available. |
| 02:23.41 | lightcap | so I think the first thing I need to do is get this postgresql-common package snafu worked out so I can get to reinstalling the backports |
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| 02:23.53 | lightcap | but I can't figure out how to get common back on the damn box |
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| 02:25.24 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: just run aptitude and walk through the dependencies with the bpo sources.list; you should be able to resolve them that way. |
| 02:25.40 | lightcap | wtf is wrong with the backports site? |
| 02:25.47 | lightcap | no topic for "packages" |
| 02:26.00 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: they've just broken the web interface; the actual archive (which is all that matters) is still there |
| 02:26.07 | lightcap | ah, okay |
| 02:26.08 | lightcap | whew |
| 02:26.26 | dondelelcaro | (or at least it was the last time I checked) |
| 02:26.29 | lightcap | how do I use aptitude with the bpo sources.list only? |
| 02:26.55 | kepht | in Etch, what calls dhclient upon bootup? |
| 02:26.57 | lightcap | I've never touched aptitude, only apt-get |
| 02:27.01 | dondelelcaro | kepht: ifupdown |
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| 02:27.33 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: you just need to run aptitude with them in your sources.list; the reason why I suggest using it is that you can resolve the dependency problems in one shot, without trying to install with apt-get multiple times. |
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| 02:28.16 | SigmaX | Got an OT issue but I'm desperate: CSS box display issues in IE that need fixed by tomorrow. Works fine in Firefox/Opera. http://sigmax.no-ip.org/new if anyone can give me some help :-S |
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| 02:28.24 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: you basically want to drill down using + to install and enter to decend until you have no packages which are broken (in red) |
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| 02:28.27 | usr13 | Is OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 in any of the debian repositories yet? |
| 02:28.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell usr13 -about pdo |
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| 02:29.28 | usr13 | What would be the best / easiest way to update to OpenOffice 2.0.3 ? |
| 02:30.08 | kepht | dondelelcaro: how does it call it, i don't see dhclient in ifupdown |
| 02:30.16 | ^cricket^ | hi i have a question reguarding updating an etch install from january, when i try, both debian's kernel and X (modular) break ( for X i get a lot of existing file errors, for the kernel the initrd is broken), is there anyway to avoid X breaking ? |
| 02:30.20 | usr13 | In other words; Is there a Debian-centric method that would be best for upgrading to OpenOffice 2.0.3 ? |
| 02:30.34 | dondelelcaro | usr13: if you're running testing/unstable, just aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; If you're not, get a backport of it from backports.org |
| 02:30.36 | abrotman | how/why does X break ? |
| 02:30.53 | kepht | is looking for a way to delay dhclient at boot time |
| 02:31.03 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: a version destined for experimental was uploaded which shouldn't have been |
| 02:31.07 | dondelelcaro | kepht: for what purpose? |
| 02:31.17 | kepht | mine |
| 02:31.17 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he said etch .. |
| 02:31.27 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i know about the /topic one |
| 02:31.35 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ah, right... |
| 02:31.42 | dondelelcaro | when in doubt, blame gravity? |
| 02:32.02 | dondelelcaro | kepht: I mean, why are you trying to delay dhcp's run? |
| 02:32.24 | ^cricket^ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:33.45 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.04 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 02:34.08 | dondelelcaro | usr13: what Debian distribution are you running? |
| 02:34.15 | usr13 | /etc/debian_version = 3.1 |
| 02:35.00 | dondelelcaro | usr13: you need a backport to run openoffice then; I believe there is one on backports.org; add a sources.list line for it (directions on backports.org) and aptitude update; then run aptitude to install your desired version and its dependencies. |
| 02:35.15 | usr13 | kernel is 2.6.8-3-686 |
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| 02:37.01 | abrotman | still looks to be 2.0.0 at bpo |
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| 02:39.23 | lightcap | I'm still lost..aptitude is way more confusing than apt-get |
| 02:40.06 | liable | did the 7.1 make it into unstable? |
| 02:40.13 | liable | accidently? |
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| 02:40.40 | lightcap | I seem to be stuck in some whacked out loop...I can't install nor remove postgresql-contrib-8.1 nor postgresql-8.1 without dealing with the postgresql-common package, but I cant deal with the common package until I deal with the errors from the contrib and other package |
| 02:43.10 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:43.22 | SUPERLINUX | HELLO |
| 02:43.43 | SUPERLINUX | what is the program used to make linux behave as a switch? |
| 02:43.52 | abrotman | router? |
| 02:44.01 | SUPERLINUX | no a switch |
| 02:44.05 | abrotman | bridge? |
| 02:44.29 | abrotman | a switch costs like $20 at bestbuy |
| 02:44.36 | SUPERLINUX | ok.. cos a switch is a multiport bridging |
| 02:44.50 | SUPERLINUX | i am just writing a report |
| 02:44.56 | lightcap | Hmm, anything I try to do with apt-get pukes that error about postgresql-8.1 and the contrib package |
| 02:45.14 | abrotman | SUPERLINUX: ask ##linux |
| 02:45.18 | SUPERLINUX | doesnt ebtables do that? |
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| 02:45.58 | Verdin | liable: I managed to get a mud client from the Deb repo |
| 02:45.59 | Verdin | :) |
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| 02:46.39 | liable | Verdin: cool |
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| 02:46.58 | Verdin | Terminal-based instead of GUI, so it's faster. |
| 02:47.10 | Gump | Boa noite! |
| 02:47.25 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:47.58 | Verdin | Cyall :) |
| 02:48.00 | usr13 | I think you want router functionality, (NAT), right? |
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| 02:48.07 | abrotman | usr13: i think he's confused |
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| 02:49.22 | jcole | someone did a "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1" on their system and they can't see their partitions anymore |
| 02:49.28 | jcole | is there a way to scan the disk and "figure" out what the table should be then re-write it? |
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| 02:49.40 | lightcap | ah, I think I've got it now |
| 02:49.57 | SUPERLINUX | usr13 there is also ebtables |
| 02:49.58 | abrotman | jcole: i think there are some tools to do it |
| 02:50.17 | SUPERLINUX | ebtables is Layer2 firewall |
| 02:50.29 | abrotman | !info ebtables |
| 02:50.32 | dpkg | ebtables: (Ethernet bridge frame table administration), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0.6-3 (sid), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 02:50.55 | SUPERLINUX | abrotman that's good |
| 02:51.14 | abrotman | SUPERLINUX: using a linux box as a switch would be pretty darn inefficient if you ask me |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | bridge/router . fine .. but a switch .. seem silly |
| 02:51.43 | SUPERLINUX | abrotman i know.. but something speacial.. isn't? |
| 02:52.02 | kepht | heh, 75Watts for a switch |
| 02:52.04 | abrotman | SUPERLINUX: i'm sure it could be done .. |
| 02:52.32 | SUPERLINUX | u can.. i think i read that in some howto or so.. |
| 02:52.33 | jcole | SUPERLINUX: I REALLY LIKE ALL-CAPS NICKS |
| 02:53.20 | Jenkens | holy moly testing has had a ton of updates lately. i guess that's just getting ready to be 4.0 |
| 02:53.22 | SUPERLINUX | jcole do u want me to make it lower case? |
| 02:53.44 | SUPERLINUX | i will if u want |
| 02:54.06 | abrotman | i'd like you to stop saying 'u' |
| 02:54.13 | jcole | lol, i'm being a smart ass |
| 02:54.15 | abrotman | i mean . if that counts for anything :) |
| 02:54.16 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: is there any reason to use backports vs building my own? I seem to have things back to normal (I think) but I built all the backports myself |
| 02:54.17 | SUPERLINUX | abrotman i forgot |
| 02:54.24 | SUPERLINUX | pardon |
| 02:54.35 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: laziness vs. spending the time; it's up to you which you do |
| 02:54.42 | lightcap | hmm |
| 02:54.51 | SUPERLINUX | i am now in sydney by the way.. |
| 02:54.56 | lightcap | I'm just afraid to remove everything and reinstall it now :) |
| 02:55.05 | SUPERLINUX | i was in lebanon a month ago |
| 02:55.08 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: if it's working, no need to bother |
| 02:55.15 | lightcap | yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 02:55.29 | lightcap | until the next time I want to upgrade and I fuck it all up again :)_ |
| 02:55.38 | dondelelcaro | lightcap: put them all on hold for right now |
| 02:55.49 | dondelelcaro | then you'll have to specifically do something to upgrade them |
| 02:55.54 | lightcap | dondelelcaro: is there a way to do that without aptitude? |
| 02:55.58 | dondelelcaro | !hold |
| 02:55.58 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 02:56.01 | dondelelcaro | anyway, time for coffeee... |
| 02:56.09 | SUPERLINUX | !ebtables |
| 02:56.11 | streuner | SUPERLINUX: how was the weather? |
| 02:56.14 | lightcap | sweet thanks |
| 02:56.18 | SUPERLINUX | great |
| 02:56.43 | SUPERLINUX | great weather.. wars and the like.. you know |
| 02:56.47 | SUPERLINUX | LOL |
| 02:57.08 | abrotman | eh .. no .. |
| 02:57.17 | SUPERLINUX | i am now studying masters in IT at JCU |
| 02:57.24 | jcole | awesome, gpart (not gparted) figured out the table struct |
| 02:57.30 | abrotman | jcole: now what? |
| 02:57.37 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.41 | jcole | abrotman: good question |
| 02:57.43 | SUPERLINUX | brb |
| 02:57.55 | abrotman | usr13: the instructions at the website should explain pinning and how to isntall packages from backports.org |
| 02:58.23 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.46 | abrotman | !pinning |
| 02:58.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt-pinning is read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 02:58.56 | abrotman | but the backports.org site hsould explain |
| 02:59.07 | abrotman | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
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| 03:00.58 | liable | whats wrong with xserver in sid? |
| 03:01.08 | abrotman | liable: they goofed .. big time |
| 03:01.19 | sid | works fine for me |
| 03:01.26 | abrotman | dont' logout! |
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| 03:01.41 | usr13 | I've yet to find instructions for upgrading OpenOffice on backports.org |
| 03:01.45 | abrotman | it was apparently meant for experimental .. went to unstable |
| 03:01.45 | sid | I rebooted 5 hours ago. |
| 03:01.48 | liable | abrotman: is it 7.1 gone in? |
| 03:01.56 | sid | hehe, nice |
| 03:02.01 | sid | So is xorg 7.1 in sid now? |
| 03:02.01 | usr13 | can someone help me out a little here? (I'm lost) |
| 03:02.03 | liable | i had the exp one already :) |
| 03:02.11 | abrotman | liable: oh .. no worries! |
| 03:02.18 | abrotman | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
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| 03:02.43 | liable | hrm, now you got me curious, brb |
| 03:03.30 | sid | abrotman: Did they remove X7.1 and put back X7; or they left it as X7.1? |
| 03:03.32 | jcole | restored! |
| 03:03.43 | abrotman | nfc |
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| 03:04.34 | Heston | appearently i have xserver-xorg-video-ati installed but im still getting poor opengl performace, is there anything i can do? |
| 03:04.48 | liable | abrotman: doesnt seem to have problems |
| 03:04.52 | jcole | i can mount the partitions too... fyi this restored it --> gpart /dev/hda -W /dev/hda |
| 03:05.01 | liable | lemme check to see if aiglx is enabled |
| 03:05.14 | sid | It's interesting Ubuntu dapper and Debian sid X breaks at the same time |
| 03:05.17 | jcole | !ati |
| 03:05.17 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for sid see <fglrx> |
| 03:05.19 | sid | Does gravity do Ubuntu X also? |
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| 03:05.34 | gravity | sid: No |
| 03:05.41 | streuner | haha |
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| 03:06.15 | liable | gravity: quick one, have you managed to get compizzle toplay nice with aiglx? |
| 03:06.16 | streuner | its also intersting in which things you are interested |
| 03:06.25 | Heston | jcole, im using etch and when i did a search for fglrx i was given xserver-xorg-video-ati |
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| 03:06.39 | Heston | which is already installed |
| 03:06.47 | usr13 | SO, do I just run "aptitude install openoffice.org" ? |
| 03:06.49 | gravity | liable: No |
| 03:06.58 | abrotman | gravity: what did you actually break? |
| 03:07.02 | liable | gravity: good, me neither :) |
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| 03:07.23 | jcole | Heston: aticonfig --initial |
| 03:07.31 | sid | gravity: You have a ballpark eta for X7.1 dumping into sid? |
| 03:07.34 | abrotman | !tell scyrma about root |
| 03:07.57 | jcole | Heston: (newest sti driver btw) |
| 03:08.02 | jcole | err |
| 03:08.09 | jcole | s/sti/ati |
| 03:08.14 | gravity | abrotman: I uploaded the 7.1 server to unstable instead of experimental by accident |
| 03:08.16 | Heston | i guess ill have to install aticonfig |
| 03:08.16 | liable | sid: its there now.. |
| 03:08.22 | gravity | liable: Not on purpose |
| 03:08.27 | Heston | jcole, which is the newest ati driver? |
| 03:08.28 | abrotman | gravity: just push it all in! |
| 03:08.30 | gravity | sid: When -release gives the ok,w hich should be soon |
| 03:08.35 | liable | gravity: seems ok anyway |
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| 03:08.38 | gravity | liable: It's not |
| 03:09.01 | abrotman | push it all in! |
| 03:09.15 | jcole | Heston: it's from ati's web site dude |
| 03:09.18 | scyrma | now .. what if I did upgrade the xserver in unstableÃ? |
| 03:09.20 | gravity | Another few days, although likely a few more because I have to move in a week |
| 03:09.32 | gravity | scyrma: You can pull the version of xorg-server-core from testing or incoming |
| 03:09.48 | Heston | jcole, is there anything explaining the process so i can stop asking and guessing ? |
| 03:09.51 | scyrma | shall give it a try ... |
| 03:10.13 | liable | gravity: ok, its ok on this box anyway |
| 03:10.19 | scyrma | gravity, is there a way to do that with apt-get, from incoming ? |
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| 03:10.26 | usr13 | What I have now is openoffice.org_1.1.3 and am wanting to upgrade to version 2.0.3 |
| 03:10.33 | gravity | scyrma: Not that I know of |
| 03:10.47 | scyrma | ok |
| 03:10.51 | streuner | usr13: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 03:11.03 | jcole | Heston: here? -> http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 03:11.04 | gravity | scyrma: You can do it with the testing version though |
| 03:11.16 | gravity | Which is identical to the incoming one, aside from version number |
| 03:11.16 | abrotman | just in case experimental isn't bleeding enough for you .. time to switch to incoming! |
| 03:11.23 | liable | heh |
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| 03:12.13 | scyrma | :) |
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| 03:12.52 | usr13 | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 03:13.03 | streuner | just in case for those who don't know what they are running, sid is the branch for DD, if you use it keep that in mind. |
| 03:13.23 | sid | gravity: You have a ballpark eta for X7.1 dumping into sid? |
| 03:13.25 | streuner | !tell usr13 about backports |
| 03:13.30 | sid | er, not sure if that message was sent already or not. I pinged out. |
| 03:13.34 | streuner | usr13: read instructions |
| 03:13.50 | liable | sid: its in, by accident :) |
| 03:13.53 | usr13 | I wouldn't mind upgrading most everything, but will take long time because my connection is slow. |
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| 03:14.24 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.53 | streuner | usr13: instructions at backports.org |
| 03:15.07 | usr13 | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions or http://lists.backports.org/lurker/message/20060630.114154.8e80d282.en.html |
| 03:15.09 | starling | debian unstable, dovecot is failing on imap-login with "Login process died too early" No other errors, it just dies. Any ideas? |
| 03:15.10 | usr13 | ? |
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| 03:15.33 | gravity | sid: I just told you. When -release says it's ok |
| 03:15.40 | usr13 | I read / followed / executed instructions at: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 03:15.47 | usr13 | Now what? |
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| 03:16.25 | streuner | read everything, it couldn't hurd (TM) :-) |
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| 03:16.59 | sid | gravity: I pinged out. sorry |
| 03:17.12 | sid | liable: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fo8tAB86.html |
| 03:17.22 | streuner | but in most cases option 1 is enough :-) |
| 03:18.24 | liable | sid: read your log |
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| 03:18.34 | karsten | gravity: Yo, dude! |
| 03:18.48 | gravity | karsten: Heya! |
| 03:18.54 | streuner | usr13: well upgrade the packages? |
| 03:18.57 | karsten | gravity: How's beantown? |
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| 03:19.26 | usr13 | I think I have it: apt-get -t sarge-backports upgrade openoffice.org |
| 03:19.30 | gravity | karsten: Pretty good. I'm moving to another part of it in a week |
| 03:19.48 | starling | Nobody has had this problem with dovecot? |
| 03:19.56 | streuner | wth is "beantown"? |
| 03:20.05 | karsten | streuner: bastan, mass |
| 03:20.10 | usr13 | Or could I have just done "apt-get upgrade openoffice.org" ? |
| 03:20.17 | karsten | streuner: ... or bahstahn |
| 03:20.44 | liable | usr13: apt-get install -t sarge-backports openoffice.org |
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| 03:21.08 | liable | mass=massachusets? |
| 03:21.16 | karsten | liable: Aye. |
| 03:21.17 | liable | or however you spell that |
| 03:21.20 | liable | okie |
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| 03:21.25 | karsten | liable: T-H-A-T |
| 03:21.55 | liable | R-I-G-H-T! |
| 03:22.05 | liable | raight? |
| 03:22.30 | karsten | liable: B-I-N-G-O |
| 03:22.43 | liable | legs eleven! |
| 03:22.58 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.17 | liable | usr13: this is good news |
| 03:23.44 | gravity | karsten: How's life back West? |
| 03:24.00 | karsten | gravity: Intersting. |
| 03:24.14 | karsten | gravity: ... in a sino-soidal sort of wao. |
| 03:24.18 | karsten | way. |
| 03:24.25 | gravity | karsten: Ah yes |
| 03:24.36 | gravity | karsten: Are you in the positive or negative phase then? |
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| 03:25.04 | karsten | gravity: The axes are above me. |
| 03:25.19 | karsten | gravity: Still plotting the first derivative. |
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| 03:31.10 | lightcap | with backports.org's web interface down how can I see what versions they have in the repositories? |
| 03:31.24 | streuner | doesn't work |
| 03:31.28 | starling | Eh, never mind I'll just clean it out and start from scratch. |
| 03:31.29 | streuner | atm |
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| 03:32.30 | streuner | lightcap: just use apt-cache show <package> |
| 03:33.09 | lightcap | ah right, duh. |
| 03:35.35 | lightcap | how do I file a bug report against a backport then |
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| 03:35.53 | lightcap | the backupninja backport is bjorked. |
| 03:36.09 | streuner | hm, they have an own channel |
| 03:36.25 | liable | what is it? |
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| 03:36.39 | lightcap | which is wierd, because the postgresql helper had to have been changed in the backport to be broken like this |
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| 03:37.24 | streuner | or use there ML |
| 03:38.56 | lightcap | ah, it's been reported already...don't know how that info gets to backports...but |
| 03:39.05 | streuner | lightcap: you could always use "/msg dpkg simple sid backport", but i wouldn't recommend for packages like openoffice :-) |
| 03:39.10 | lightcap | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363297 |
| 03:39.41 | lightcap | yeah I usually build my own... |
| 03:39.49 | streuner | !dbugs 363297 |
| 03:39.52 | dpkg | #363297:I[backupninja] backupninja: backup handler for pgsql not working; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:18:04 UTC |
| 03:40.18 | lightcap | the source as available from svn at dev.riseup.net (the developer) has it right... |
| 03:40.22 | lightcap | strange. |
| 03:40.34 | sid | liable: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mbVDvm49.html |
| 03:41.50 | liable | sid: no, your xorg log, xserver-xorg-core is the offending package |
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| 03:42.30 | WebGuest | hi, i was wondering, is etch the only version that supports amd64 like an X2 ? |
| 03:42.58 | WebGuest | or is sarge also available in 64 bit |
| 03:42.58 | sid | WebGuest: What is X2? |
| 03:43.07 | WebGuest | i mean an AMD X2 processor |
| 03:43.16 | streuner | !tell WebGuest about amd64 |
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| 03:43.36 | WebGuest | i'm not getting the pm.. |
| 03:43.44 | streuner | hm |
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| 03:43.56 | streuner | the bot did tell me otherwise |
| 03:43.58 | WebGuest | maybe because i use a stupid applet for irc |
| 03:44.04 | streuner | !amd64 |
| 03:44.04 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 03:44.08 | WebGuest | thnx |
| 03:44.16 | WebGuest | now i see |
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| 03:44.53 | WebGuest | thank you! |
| 03:45.13 | streuner | most of us using x86 - not amd64 |
| 03:46.24 | WebGuest | is that any risk then (still reading) |
| 03:46.37 | streuner | heh |
| 03:46.53 | streuner | its a risk to go out of bed :-) |
| 03:47.09 | WebGuest | hehe |
| 03:47.17 | WebGuest | but there must be a reason why you said that |
| 03:47.40 | WebGuest | i was thinking, i own a X2 64bit so i should use that advantage |
| 03:47.41 | streuner | no, i don't have a clue about amd64, just ask #debian-amd64 |
| 03:47.46 | WebGuest | not get me into trouble :) |
| 03:47.49 | WebGuest | ow |
| 03:47.49 | WebGuest | ok |
| 03:47.50 | WebGuest | thnx |
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| 04:00.25 | some1 | is there a linux version of prime95? |
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| 04:01.59 | adeodatus | ?? |
| 04:02.46 | adeodatus | quick question for the other geeks running testing ... |
| 04:02.52 | adeodatus | what happened to base-config? |
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| 04:03.13 | liable | adeodatus: only part of the installer now |
| 04:03.23 | liable | not available as a package |
| 04:03.48 | adeodatus | but its still the old way in stable? |
| 04:04.14 | liable | yes |
| 04:04.14 | adeodatus | cool ... thx!!! |
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| 04:08.12 | predder | I want to simulate hot swapping a sata drive which is currently in an mdadm raid1 setup. I know I should first mark the partitions as faulty on the drive.. then what? (Assuming nothing else is mounted on that drive) |
| 04:08.43 | predder | I just yank the drive and plug another in? or is there something else i have to do in debian |
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| 04:10.16 | liable | predder: iirc, first -f then -r |
| 04:10.46 | liable | predder: make sure your driver is hotswappable |
| 04:13.08 | gravity | Does anyone know how to go through a bunch of files and hack a character off the end of their names? |
| 04:13.22 | gravity | I really need to learn how to do this sort of mass rename |
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| 04:17.09 | liable | gravity: http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq#head-1767b79b2142651e2b90697b8a599331b97018a2 |
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| 04:17.58 | gravity | liable: Thanks, I just wound up digging in to my unix power tools book for a solution. It's a hairy one but it worked |
| 04:18.08 | gravity | Your method is way easier |
| 04:18.21 | liable | heh, np, not me, greycat :) |
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| 04:28.57 | deadcat | xserver-xorg-core_1.1.1-3_i386.deb is this 7.1 or 7.0 ? |
| 04:29.18 | gravity | deadcat: 7.1. You don't want it unless you want to go all-out and pull drivers from experimental |
| 04:29.56 | deadcat | gravity: ah. thanks.. it must be the experimental line in my sources.list |
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| 04:30.08 | gravity | deadcat: No, it's a fuckup on my part |
| 04:30.12 | gravity | The fix is in incoming |
| 04:30.16 | deadcat | k |
| 04:31.30 | liable | deadcat: did you get any joy with it in the end? |
| 04:32.07 | deadcat | gravity: thanks for working on compiz as well |
| 04:32.42 | deadcat | liable: nope. i went back to the one from unstable because i was having problem with xterm not showing some text |
| 04:32.46 | gravity | deadcat: I haven't touched that yet. |
| 04:33.03 | gravity | deadcat: Thierry has started working on it. I'm not going to do it until after the various RC bugs are taken care of |
| 04:33.09 | gravity | As much as I want to |
| 04:33.21 | deadcat | ah |
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| 04:35.40 | deadcat | liable: you got everything woorking? |
| 04:36.08 | liable | deadcat: i havent played with it, compiz is still being a pain |
| 04:36.15 | deadcat | doh |
| 04:36.33 | liable | yeah :( its half working :) |
| 04:36.38 | deadcat | so what does aiglx do without compiz? |
| 04:36.58 | liable | deadcat: you can try the metacity the provide for it |
| 04:37.06 | usr13 | I'm trying to upgrad openoffice 1.1.3 to 2.0.3 with command: "apt-get install -t sarge-backports openoffice.org" BUT, have encountered following error: http://pastebin.ca/145757 |
| 04:37.06 | liable | i think its metacity.. |
| 04:37.11 | usr13 | Please advise. |
| 04:38.08 | usr13 | What does one do to resolve "unmet dependencies"? |
| 04:38.19 | nvz | I advise you to not say you are just gonna close your eyes for five minutes and go do something later.. I tried that this afternoon and now its like 1am.. heh |
| 04:39.17 | deadcat | liable: so aiglx is useless if i dont use compiz and metacity? |
| 04:39.38 | liable | deadcat: i believe so, i dont see any other reason for it. |
| 04:39.42 | deadcat | k |
| 04:41.02 | liable | usr13: and what if you try and manually install those packages? maybe they dont exist? |
| 04:41.57 | liable | deadcat: dont take my word for it though :P |
| 04:42.01 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:42.37 | sanmarcos | if I use ssh tunneling, I do not need to open the port I use for tunneling right? (as in the server is behind a router) |
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| 04:43.23 | deadcat | sanmarcos: no. everything through port 22 or whatever port you use for ssh |
| 04:43.41 | nvz | tunneling fits a port/protocol's traffic into another port/protocol.. so if I got http on port 80 and I am tunneling it through ssh on 22, then 22 is the only port I need access to |
| 04:43.46 | sanmarcos | deadcat: thank you brother |
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| 04:44.15 | sanmarcos | also, is it a good practice to deny apt/dpkg execution (o-x) to non root users? |
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| 04:44.36 | deadcat | sanmarcos: they can always cat the files. |
| 04:44.58 | liable | sanmarcos: total denial? like no dpkg -S or whatever? |
| 04:45.10 | sanmarcos | liable: no execution of the binary |
| 04:45.27 | nvz | not to mention just using dpkg can be helpful.. it wont let you do things like actually install a package because it cant create a lockfile or write to the dirs the packages files bleong in |
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| 04:45.31 | sanmarcos | 750 liable |
| 04:45.35 | liable | sanmarcos: why would you want to, they cant really do anything with it anyway |
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| 04:45.55 | sanmarcos | it was probably bastille who did it anyways |
| 04:46.02 | deadcat | sanmarcos: and they can always cat the files that apt/dpkg uses |
| 04:46.13 | sanmarcos | deadcat: right |
| 04:46.31 | liable | point, then you start denying everything chasing so called security |
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| 04:46.43 | sanmarcos | just out of curiosity, do you guys recommend using UTF-8? (it drives me crazy with curses since it cant draw lines correctly with some configurations) |
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| 04:47.22 | sanmarcos | I do use special spanish characters sometimes, but just only in files. Ive been wondering if I should just switch back to ISO8558-15 or whatever it was, since it supports what I need |
| 04:47.51 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.57 | deadcat | my current openbox theme is pretty nice. want a screenshot of xterm? |
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| 04:48.36 | usr13 | Please advise. |
| 04:49.00 | sanmarcos | hmm I set debconf to low, but dpkg-reconfigure locales still wont let me choose |
| 04:49.00 | usr13 | What am I doing wrong? |
| 04:49.07 | sanmarcos | deadcat: sure |
| 04:49.14 | deadcat | let me ss it. |
| 04:49.23 | liable | usr13: hrm, seems they have no java-runtime, i dunno why not, maybe ask in there channel? |
| 04:49.28 | sanmarcos | deadcat: I had problems with openbox/fluxbox not supporting utf characters |
| 04:49.31 | nvz | usr13 makes me feel like I am at NASA Mission Control Center |
| 04:49.31 | liable | usr13: i dont know what its called |
| 04:50.19 | nvz | this is the usr13, we cant figure out which way is earth, please advise |
| 04:50.49 | nvz | roger usr13, this is NASA Mission Control, earth is... well... down. |
| 04:50.59 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.18 | predder | I'm trying to determine if my sata controller is using AHCI drivers. This is what dmesg outputs: http://rafb.net/paste/results/JtHCk459.html Can someone confirm/deny please? |
| 04:51.57 | usr13 | So, have I wrecked my system? |
| 04:51.58 | sanmarcos | we can neither confirm nor deny |
| 04:52.11 | predder | sanmarcos, how would you suggest I check? |
| 04:52.11 | deadcat | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/index.php?ALBUM=gallery/openbox_theme.png notice the fading effect |
| 04:52.30 | nvz | got blown up by Marvin and his My Illudiom Pew36 Explosive Space Modulator! |
| 04:52.37 | sanmarcos | that is the total shit deadcat |
| 04:52.45 | sanmarcos | why do you use openbox rather than flux? |
| 04:52.54 | OTL| | sanmarcos, as in san marcos, tx? |
| 04:53.03 | deadcat | sanmarcos: flux is too bloated |
| 04:53.06 | sanmarcos | OTL|: no |
| 04:53.12 | sanmarcos | deadcat: what font do you use in Xterm? |
| 04:53.24 | OTL| | nod |
| 04:53.37 | deadcat | sanmarcos: xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono |
| 04:53.43 | usr13 | I guess I should just ditch apt-get / backports.rog etc. and just Uninstall OpenOffice 1.1.3 and [manually] install OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 ? |
| 04:53.47 | sanmarcos | yes I need to set my realname to "Not in San Marcos, TX/CA", I get asked that question 2 times a day |
| 04:53.49 | liable | deadcat: you make soap? |
| 04:54.05 | sanmarcos | deadcat: nice, I suppose it is unicode. (currently on Win, using Putty). |
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| 04:54.06 | deadcat | liable: tyler does (= |
| 04:54.14 | usr13 | or..... ? |
| 04:54.15 | sanmarcos | deadcat: do you have a screen of your whole desktop? |
| 04:54.19 | liable | deadcat: wtf is tyler? |
| 04:54.40 | deadcat | liable: tyler durden, fight club.. although i shouldnt talk about it though (= |
| 04:54.43 | liable | usr13: you cant do that, as you cant satisfy the depends? |
| 04:54.51 | deadcat | sanmarcos: ya. under linux/screeenshot |
| 04:55.38 | deadcat | liable: you might watn to try rxvt-unicode, its a pretty popular terminal emulator. and its smaller than xterm too i think. |
| 04:55.46 | deadcat | liable: and it supports transparency. |
| 04:55.47 | usr13 | o |
| 04:55.57 | liable | deadcat: wrong nick? |
| 04:56.02 | deadcat | liable: oops |
| 04:56.06 | deadcat | sanmarcos: ^^ |
| 04:56.08 | sanmarcos | I like mrxvt, if it only had UTF support.. |
| 04:56.18 | liable | usr13: try installing java from sun, /msg dpkg install java |
| 04:56.54 | liable | usr13: that might satisfy the oo depends for java-runtime (though i am not really sure) |
| 04:57.17 | usr13 | dpkg install java ? |
| 04:57.17 | dpkg | [install java] First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 04:57.20 | sanmarcos | deadcat: what is that music player in http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/gallery/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060226_32041.png ? |
| 04:57.22 | liable | usr13: or maybe not, i have no idea |
| 04:57.29 | liable | usr13: /msg the bot |
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| 04:58.03 | deadcat | sanmarcos: playmp3list. very simple, very nice. |
| 04:58.13 | sanmarcos | deadcat: indeed, will check it out |
| 04:58.16 | usr13 | I just did "/msg dpkg install java" and nothing happened, [here] |
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| 04:58.37 | sanmarcos | usr13: register your nick |
| 04:58.58 | liable | usr13: you sure that there isnt a new query window open in your client? |
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| 04:59.37 | usr13 | I seem to have java, "/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06" exists on my system. |
| 04:59.42 | liable | !tell usr13 about java-package |
| 05:00.00 | usr13 | sanmarcos my nic IS registered |
| 05:00.33 | liable | no need anyway, you only need to be regged to send, not recieve |
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| 05:02.14 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.30 | usr13 | I don't think the bot knows about java |
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| 05:03.04 | liable | usr13: it does, it told me, that it told you |
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| 05:04.09 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.39 | liable | usr13: works for everyone else.. shrug |
| 05:04.42 | usr13 | Mission control to bot.... :) |
| 05:04.44 | liable | !java package |
| 05:04.44 | dpkg | i heard java package is <replay> see java-package |
| 05:05.28 | liable | dpkg: java-package=~ s/<replay>/<reply>/ |
| 05:05.36 | liable | dpkg: java package=~ s/<replay>/<reply>/ |
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| 05:06.51 | liable | hrm, dunno why that fails.. |
| 05:06.56 | liable | !java-package |
| 05:06.56 | dpkg | java-package is probably a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
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| 05:11.28 | sanmarcos | is there a way to remove pacakges marked as rc, or rather remove their configurations? |
| 05:12.01 | liable | sanmarcos: dpkg -P |
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| 05:18.20 | sanmarcos | thanks, apt wont take it otherwise |
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| 05:24.33 | simonrvn | eew, crappy script |
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| 05:28.58 | liable | god i hate trying to get formats right in word documents |
| 05:29.12 | liable | i am too stupid :( |
| 05:31.57 | usr13 | I don't understand: fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb |
| 05:32.15 | usr13 | getting errors: |
| 05:33.06 | PingFloyd | I made that package before |
| 05:33.41 | PingFloyd | what's the error that you are getting? |
| 05:33.44 | usr13 | http://pastebin.ca/145853 |
| 05:34.21 | usr13 | I downloaded: jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin |
| 05:34.43 | PingFloyd | do you have the java package? |
| 05:34.55 | usr13 | I downloaded: jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin |
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| 05:35.59 | PingFloyd | you need java-package also |
| 05:36.09 | PingFloyd | http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/java-package |
| 05:36.31 | PingFloyd | that's what gives you jpkg |
| 05:36.50 | PingFloyd | I mean make-jpkg |
| 05:36.56 | usr13 | But, I really thing it is already installed. I have: /usr/java/jre1.5.0_06 |
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| 05:37.50 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.00 | PingFloyd | http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/java-package |
| 05:38.04 | usr13 | How do I get "java-package" |
| 05:38.16 | PingFloyd | from that url |
| 05:38.26 | PingFloyd | probably on repository also |
| 05:39.23 | PingFloyd | what's the command it's trying to run in make-jpkg on line 150? |
| 05:39.47 | nvz | hmm |
| 05:40.38 | nvz | o.O |
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| 05:40.50 | nvz | host is unreachable.. wtf |
| 05:41.36 | nvz | I think I got a dead/dying nic :P |
| 05:42.21 | nvz | one minute I am browsing my host the next minute its gone.. I can see the link light still on over there.. but its not responding |
| 05:43.25 | nvz | !test |
| 05:43.25 | dpkg | Sorry, nvz, I didn't get your test. |
| 05:43.50 | nvz | damn flaky network |
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| 05:45.00 | nvz | a few times when that box couldnt get on or would drop its connection the card was loose.. its probably suffered damage as a result of not being securly fastened |
| 05:45.18 | nvz | its a LNE100TX type card IIRC |
| 05:45.31 | PingFloyd | that's what I got |
| 05:45.33 | PingFloyd | good card |
| 05:45.38 | nvz | but nothing is really screwed down in that case |
| 05:45.51 | nvz | except the mobo and power supply |
| 05:45.52 | PingFloyd | why not? |
| 05:46.19 | nvz | it was my brother's compaq.. he took it apart to spray paint the case.. and when I got it all I had was half a case |
| 05:46.22 | PingFloyd | I would screw everything down, otherwise could cause a short if it comes loose |
| 05:46.29 | sanmarcos | where can I find a list of what pc, rc mean in dpkg ?, or what does pc mean specifically ? |
| 05:46.54 | nvz | yeah its probably already shorted.. one of the front usb ports is all broken.. if you plug anything into it, the mobo shorts and shuts down |
| 05:47.12 | PingFloyd | probably mb toast too |
| 05:47.19 | PingFloyd | no telling |
| 05:47.21 | nvz | it works pretty good |
| 05:47.25 | nvz | just the network drops sometimes |
| 05:47.42 | PingFloyd | did you you refasten it securely? |
| 05:47.53 | nvz | I just restarted networking |
| 05:48.00 | nvz | afaik its seated right now.. |
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| 05:48.19 | nvz | I think the network card just suffered some damage the times it slipped out and I didnt notice |
| 05:48.25 | nvz | so now it doesnt always reset properly |
| 05:48.34 | PingFloyd | it might be ok |
| 05:48.43 | nvz | could be a network cable or anything |
| 05:48.46 | nvz | who knows |
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| 05:48.50 | PingFloyd | exactly |
| 05:48.57 | nvz | I just know that box goes away sometimes |
| 05:48.59 | PingFloyd | probably problem is upstream |
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| 05:49.49 | PingFloyd | are you talking about connection going internally on a lan |
| 05:49.59 | nvz | the LNE100TX are fairly reliable though.. and for the price and being like the only device that has tux on the box.. they are practically disposable |
| 05:50.02 | PingFloyd | or losing connection to hosts over the internet |
| 05:50.22 | nvz | yeah I got two boxes on my lan. I had just a hub, but now I am using a router now that I got internet |
| 05:50.28 | Lovecraft | So, anyone else running unstable and find xorg non-working after an update? |
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| 05:51.02 | nvz | I have their /etc/hosts set "host" as one of the aliases in additon to their hostname.. so I dont have to remember which one I am on or what the others name is.. host connects to the other machine in either case |
| 05:51.38 | PingFloyd | did you already try to taking the whole network down? |
| 05:51.46 | PingFloyd | and bringing it back up |
| 05:51.58 | nvz | just restarting the interface works when that box goes out to lunch |
| 05:52.03 | PingFloyd | router, all switches etc |
| 05:52.08 | liable | Lovecraft: see topic |
| 05:52.13 | nvz | but I was connected to 3 samba shares on it.. and it just stopped communicating on me |
| 05:52.19 | PingFloyd | sometimes that cures anomolies for me |
| 05:52.32 | liable | Lovecraft: reinstall xserver-xorg-core from your cache |
| 05:52.48 | nvz | well I knew when I was still good and on IRC that it was somewhere on the other end |
| 05:52.56 | Lovecraft | Ah yes. . I see. |
| 05:53.14 | Lovecraft | I'll wait a while and reinstall the mess. |
| 05:53.54 | nvz | the weird thing is I never heard the music stop when that all happened.. and ~/Music is smbfs to host |
| 05:54.07 | nvz | yet my other programs using other shares crapped |
| 05:54.23 | Lovecraft | Thanks. :) |
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| 05:55.47 | nvz | my server is just crazy.. apache runs wild sometimes too |
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| 05:56.30 | nvz | eats up all available memory and cpu when I only have two pcs and it only serves as a local apt repo |
| 05:57.16 | nvz | I may just delete the repo now that I have cable and its an outdated sarge r0 repo |
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| 05:58.33 | [TACO] | How do you find out what ports are opened on your system? |
| 05:58.37 | BankHead | private |
| 05:58.44 | nvz | [TACO]: netstat |
| 05:58.52 | [TACO] | nvz: wow, same as windows? |
| 05:58.53 | nvz | [TACO]: netstat -pant for example |
| 05:58.53 | liable | [TACO]: netstat -plunt |
| 05:59.10 | PingFloyd | can also do have grc.com do a scan |
| 05:59.14 | [TACO] | thanks |
| 05:59.20 | nvz | [TACO]: no but similar |
| 05:59.29 | [TACO] | nvz: I ment command wise |
| 05:59.34 | [TACO] | windows is like netstat -a |
| 05:59.36 | nvz | thats what I mean |
| 05:59.42 | nvz | commands are different |
| 05:59.52 | nvz | windows options and linux options dont match |
| 06:00.07 | PingFloyd | windows doesn't have many options |
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| 06:00.24 | nvz | I heard MSFT bought Sysinternals/Winternals.. so they will probably integrate tcpview into windows in the future |
| 06:00.41 | nvz | the system internals utilities are nice |
| 06:00.44 | [TACO] | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 10802/mysqld // MySQL Administrator keeps telling me it cannot connect... |
| 06:00.54 | PingFloyd | I've never tried them |
| 06:01.03 | PingFloyd | what are they? |
| 06:01.04 | nvz | their process manager and monitor apps make for good virus hunting |
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| 06:01.50 | nvz | freeware (gnu actually I think) utilities like monitors for ports, connections, process, memory, registry, disk access..etc and other useful utils like secure delete |
| 06:01.52 | [TACO] | Anyone have any idea why my network cannot see the SQL server? |
| 06:01.59 | [TACO] | even telnet errors out |
| 06:02.07 | nvz | the site had utils for both windows and linux |
| 06:02.20 | nvz | I havent been their since it was purchaced by MSFT |
| 06:02.28 | liable | disturbingly, oo seems to make 1's and 4's larger than other numbers.. |
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| 06:03.10 | nvz | liable: sounds like a font issue |
| 06:03.28 | PingFloyd | what's doing it? |
| 06:03.57 | liable | nvz: prolly, i am a font tard, i need to check it to make sure it looks ok in word anyway, i hope it looks ok in that |
| 06:04.07 | nvz | liable: or maybe you've got a number fetish you just really like the straighness of the 1 and the way the 4 bends |
| 06:04.18 | liable | hah |
| 06:04.30 | nvz | liable: I would try a different font if you havent already |
| 06:04.37 | liable | i never considered that before.. hmm, maybe i need therapy :) |
| 06:05.40 | PingFloyd | which font is it doing it with? |
| 06:05.56 | liable | DejaVu Serif |
| 06:06.10 | PingFloyd | Linux has kind of always hurt in the font department |
| 06:06.27 | nvz | fucking computers ahh! |
| 06:06.47 | PingFloyd | even with BCI and/or autohinter enabled, they seem to leave something to be desired |
| 06:07.20 | PingFloyd | let's face it, macs are the best when it comes to fonts hands down |
| 06:08.01 | dondelelcaro | hardly. |
| 06:08.05 | nvz | I love xkill :) especially since I bound it to Ctrl+Alt+Button1 and can quickly kill clients |
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| 06:08.28 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I just meta4-k-c. ;-) |
| 06:08.45 | dondelelcaro | (but ion3 may be too freaky for most people) |
| 06:09.18 | PingFloyd | might as well just use a CLI |
| 06:09.18 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I messed with ion3 a little.. I still love sawfish too much to really stick with other wms |
| 06:09.38 | dondelelcaro | that's pretty much what X is for; showing lots and lots of xterms |
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| 06:10.00 | dondelelcaro | you may need an occasional web browser or image editor, but that's basically it |
| 06:10.28 | sanmarcos | where can I find a list of what pc, rc mean in dpkg ?, or what does pc mean specifically ? |
| 06:10.29 | nvz | dondelelcaro: the sawfish-ui is just way too damn easy to use. I like being able to change my configuration with little effort. between its bindings and matched windows I can create just about any environment I can imagine |
| 06:10.30 | PingFloyd | I really only keep X around for web browser and gimp etc |
| 06:10.56 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: it's in the header that it displays; pc means that you requested it be purged but the configuration files are still there. |
| 06:11.12 | PingFloyd | though sometimes I use links instead |
| 06:11.23 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: see where it says "Desired and Status" at the top? |
| 06:11.49 | nvz | if I could grok the languages used in sawfish I'd lke to try adding some features to that sawfish-ui but I am not there yet. some more automagic stuff like grabbing window position and size would be nice |
| 06:11.54 | sanmarcos | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 06:12.16 | nvz | the whole damn wm needs a rewrite it seems |
| 06:12.20 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: u=unknown p=purged i=installed, etc. |
| 06:12.54 | nvz | it doesnt play well in today's standardized desktop world |
| 06:13.03 | sanmarcos | dondelelcaro: ahh, there can be combinations of desired status and errors ? |
| 06:13.06 | dondelelcaro | nvz: sawfish or ion3? |
| 06:13.13 | nvz | sawfish. |
| 06:13.24 | nvz | it doesnt understand hints it seems |
| 06:13.25 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: errors get displayed in the third column; they're pretty rare. |
| 06:13.30 | dondelelcaro | ah |
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| 06:13.47 | nvz | windows will popup without a damn title and not dissapear when they loose focus like they should |
| 06:13.58 | GuySoft | hello, i am in search of help. i installed the new xorg 7 and i get "module abi major version (0) doesn't match server version (1)" |
| 06:14.19 | GuySoft | i know this is a common problem, and id like to fix it once and for all |
| 06:14.21 | dondelelcaro | nvz: heh. ion3 doesn't have that problem... windows are shoved into an appropriate place no matter what the application thinks |
| 06:14.22 | nvz | it gets really anoying to like pull down a color or font menu in OOo and have it stuck there on your screen and have to shade the window to get to the title bar and close it |
| 06:15.07 | dondelelcaro | although, for some things it doesn't quite do the right thing... ooo is a bit of a pain... but I don't like OOo much anyway |
| 06:15.14 | nvz | dondelelcaro: oh sawfish behaves really badly with popup things like in amarok or OOo where the window should only open on hover or while holding on it.. it just stays there with no easy way to close it in sawfish |
| 06:15.33 | sanmarcos | dondelelcaro: thank you brother |
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| 06:15.39 | nvz | dondelelcaro: in amarok the album editor would let you see a larger image on hover.. its nasty in sawfish |
| 06:15.54 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: np; I think man dpkg-query; may also explain it, but I can't remember. |
| 06:17.00 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I just love the control sawfish has over its windows, and the ease of configuration through the sawfish-ui. I've searched high and low for something like it and couldnt find anything. Ion3 is great.. but I might as well be using screen if I am gonna edit everything with the keyboard and barely use my mouse. |
| 06:17.30 | nvz | I live with the fact it cant take a hint |
| 06:17.31 | dondelelcaro | heh. yeah, the only issue with screen is that it doesn't do split windows very well |
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| 06:17.48 | n00biest | re all |
| 06:18.18 | n00biest | i'm struggling with ndiswrapper |
| 06:18.24 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I also dont like the ion3 menu.. it like wont go away it seems once you activate it unless you actually launch something.. its a stubborn menu |
| 06:18.45 | n00biest | ndiswrapper: version magic '2.6.16-2-686-smp SMP 686 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.16-2-686-smp SMP 686 gcc-3.3' |
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| 06:19.25 | n00biest | that's what dmesg says |
| 06:19.36 | sciboy | Hey guys, what software would you recommend for project management, eg. Allow me to manage documents and files, schedule, to-do list etc. |
| 06:19.49 | afed | a secretary |
| 06:20.11 | liable | n00biest: compile ndiswrapper module with the right gcc version |
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| 06:20.30 | n00biest | liable: well, this is where all began |
| 06:20.39 | n00biest | liable: i did my best |
| 06:21.06 | n00biest | liable: ndiswrapper won't compile unless gcc-3.4 or newer |
| 06:21.29 | n00biest | liable: and kernel complains if it's not compiled with 3.3 |
| 06:21.31 | liable | n00biest: really? the one from the repos? |
| 06:21.33 | nvz | for some reason it feels like aterm should update its psuedotrans on ^L or something.. its annoying having to move the terminal when you change bg to get it to update |
| 06:21.40 | n00biest | liable: yes sir |
| 06:21.55 | nvz | seems that it only redraws when its moved |
| 06:22.21 | n00biest | liable: i try to stay with the .deb's as long as possible |
| 06:22.39 | liable | n00biest: check the bts for ndiswrapper, whats the latest kernel in etch? it may be built with newer gcc.. |
| 06:22.44 | nvz | I realize I am on XFree86 with no real transperency anyhow.. but still the app can poll and redraw or have a command to manually do it |
| 06:22.51 | n00biest | liable: what is bts? sorry, look at my nick :) |
| 06:23.00 | liable | n00biest: bugs.debian.org |
| 06:23.20 | nvz | !noob |
| 06:23.20 | dpkg | Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not. |
| 06:23.23 | liable | n00biest: bts=bug tracking system :) |
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| 06:23.41 | n00biest | ok, thanks :) |
| 06:23.52 | nvz | n00biest: its our wonderful bug tracking system that is available to all users |
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| 06:40.00 | dondelelcaro | nvz: you just C-g and it goes away |
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| 06:40.33 | gpm | hey guys, no fonts are showing up when i run winecfg (in sid)...i have msttcorefonts, any other clues/ideas? |
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| 06:41.43 | remotsh | what software do i need to be able to do remote troubleshooting, like being able to look at the remote screen, control the mouse and even having complete control over the computer? |
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| 06:42.03 | n00biest | ok, so what i understood so far is that if the kernel is built using a specific version of gcc, the modules must be built using the same version |
| 06:42.06 | SpeedyG | remotsh: vnc |
| 06:42.13 | liable | remotsh: vnc/rpc |
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| 06:42.21 | liable | n00biest: yes |
| 06:42.22 | n00biest | however |
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| 06:42.28 | merlincorey | what's the alternative to cdrecord? |
| 06:42.30 | remotsh | available as debian package? |
| 06:42.32 | merlincorey | as cdrecord is lame |
| 06:42.35 | merlincorey | and has issues |
| 06:42.37 | nvz | remotsh: ssh, vncserver (or rfb), maybe samba or nfs |
| 06:42.41 | merlincorey | and I just don't know what else is out there |
| 06:42.50 | merlincorey | or a good pattern to search with to find my way so far |
| 06:42.50 | nvz | remotsh: is this computer on a private lan with the other host? |
| 06:42.51 | VivekVC | I would like to get a link with details about the /var/backup folder |
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| 06:42.54 | remotsh | it is getting complicated. |
| 06:43.01 | merlincorey | but I also suck at patterns |
| 06:43.16 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:43.16 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:43.20 | remotsh | nvz: i want to do it thro the internet. |
| 06:43.23 | tarzeau | check the version numbers today ;) |
| 06:43.26 | VivekVC | Are all default backups in Debian made to /var/backup.Thanks in advance |
| 06:43.35 | n00biest | module-assistant insists on using gcc-3.3 to build ndiswrapper |
| 06:43.45 | nvz | remotsh: well you present security concerns when you do that |
| 06:43.52 | n00biest | and i get this error in log file |
| 06:44.14 | nvz | remotsh: you may want to learn how to securly tunnel these services through just one port using a secure protocol |
| 06:44.16 | remotsh | nvz: true, assume security is not the concern. |
| 06:44.19 | tralala | n00biest: CC=gcc-4.X m-a parameters |
| 06:44.20 | liable | n00biest: man module-assistant, or kernel-package, i believe it may use the same thing for the flags for gcc |
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| 06:44.40 | n00biest | ok, thanks |
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| 06:45.31 | tralala | n00biest: although I strongly doubt that the syntax error I saw yesterday has anything to do with the gcc version |
| 06:45.43 | liable | ohno, i am thinking of CONCURRENCY_LEVEL.. |
| 06:45.54 | nvz | remotsh: vncserver package contains a light x server that is accessable over the internet using the Remote Frame Buffer protocol, rfb package uses the active X display and shows a small icon when you run it and exports the current display using the Remote Frame Buffer protocol. either is viewable with any vncviewer application. |
| 06:46.44 | nvz | remotsh: vncserver can run on a pc without x installed as it acts as a display server for the clients, rfb requires a running X server with a user logged in to export their current display |
| 06:47.48 | nvz | remotsh: it all depends on if you want to just ssh in and start a new display with vncserver or if you will have someone there to start rfb or leave it running to export what you have on your screen |
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| 06:49.38 | nvz | vnc should be renamed antagonism, the oppisite of synergy :P |
| 06:50.06 | nvz | having a big synergy station is great especially when you can run all different os's seemlessly |
| 06:50.17 | remotsh | nvz: assuming the remote machine is already up and running but the user requires help with an application program. i would want to look at his screen to advise him. vncserver alone would be enough? |
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| 06:50.42 | nvz | remotsh: if you want to help a user like the windows remote assistance program, you want rfb |
| 06:51.33 | nvz | remotsh: they will run x0rfbserver from their desktop and see a little 48x48 pixel window with a server monitor and you will login to their host on port 5900 with xvncviewer or realvnc viewer |
| 06:51.42 | remotsh | nvz: that is what i have in mind, something like the windows remote assistance program. |
| 06:52.36 | nvz | remotsh: yeah vncserver is good for something different. you can not be logged in on the server at all.. sitting at a login screen locally, and just ssh in from a remote host, start a vncserver session it will create a new X display and let you use it.. the local user never sees it really |
| 06:52.38 | n00biest | it seems i can't trick module-assistant |
| 06:52.53 | n00biest | what i did was to export CC=gcc-4.0 |
| 06:53.16 | n00biest | than i have modified rules for ndiswrapper to read the $CC |
| 06:53.26 | n00biest | it uses gcc-4.0 |
| 06:53.47 | n00biest | but later on compiling it complains that gcc-3.4 or newer should be used |
| 06:53.51 | nvz | remotsh: its also nice because you can setup a box with no X server and still run X clients on it remotely because they will use the remote display |
| 06:54.43 | remotsh | nvz: to finalise, i need vncserver, ssh. the remote needs rfb. right? |
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| 06:55.17 | nvz | remotsh: no if you want to just help out someone remotely they want rfb, you want like xvncviewer or something of the sort that can view a vnc session |
| 06:56.12 | tralala | n00biest: which rules? |
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| 06:56.31 | nvz | remotsh: they run x0rfbserver from their menu, you run xvncviewer and connect to host:5900 and supply the vncpassword and you are looking at their display .. depending on what the remote host sets in the preference dialog you may be either watching or sharing input, or taking control and turning their input off |
| 06:56.46 | n00biest | tralala: in /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/debian, there is a file, rules |
| 06:57.25 | remotsh | nvz: ok, that's clear now, thks. |
| 06:57.46 | tralala | n00biest: ok, now would you, please undo the modifications and just launch CC=gcc-4.0 m-a blahblah? |
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| 06:57.48 | n00biest | tralala: surprise, this file gets overwritten |
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| 06:58.00 | tralala | n00biest: good |
| 06:58.00 | nvz | remotsh: its not a really secure protocol, but if they use rfb they will know when its running because of the monitor window, and it will change colors when people connect and allow them to kill the clients or shut the server down.. and they will see what the remote user is doing.. so its not a real huge issue if used properly |
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| 06:58.52 | nvz | remotsh: you would need to forward port 5900 if they are behind a firewall |
| 06:59.09 | remotsh | nvz: ok. |
| 06:59.29 | n00biest | tralala: i did it, verbatim. it still wants gcc 3.4 or newer, although at first line of log clearly says /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 |
| 06:59.35 | alexbodn | hi all. i have a problem with python-support. working and not working examples :(. please help |
| 06:59.57 | tralala | n00biest: will you show me the exact output? |
| 07:00.02 | n00biest | #error "gcc 3.4 or newer should be used for compiling this module" |
| 07:00.05 | nvz | alexbodn: meh? |
| 07:00.18 | n00biest | tralala: sure, just a second |
| 07:00.27 | nvz | timm timm timmeh? |
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| 07:01.05 | alexbodn | i have improved a package (mini-dinstall), which installs by python support, but fails to find those modules |
| 07:01.24 | n00biest | tralala: a snippet is here: http://pastebin.ca/145955 |
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| 07:01.53 | alexbodn | meanwhile, pythoncad does work with analogous functionality |
| 07:02.16 | tralala | n00biest: I'd like to have it all (including the m-a command) |
| 07:02.26 | n00biest | tralala: all right |
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| 07:03.04 | eleftherios | on a Debian Etch machine, netstat -a gives me the line: "udp 0 0 localhost:1559 localhost:1559 ESTABLISHED" does anyone know what this could be? |
| 07:03.15 | alexbodn | nvz: how can i debug such things? |
| 07:03.37 | teledyn | eleftherios: try netstat -i | grep 1559 |
| 07:03.59 | nvz | alexbodn: have you tried talking to python developers.. in like a python channel? |
| 07:04.07 | teledyn | eleftherios: sorry - i meant lsof -i |
| 07:04.07 | n00biest | tralala: http://pastebin.ca/145958 |
| 07:04.15 | nvz | instead of casual users or hackers in #debian |
| 07:04.25 | eleftherios | teledyn, no output.... |
| 07:04.33 | eleftherios | teledyn, oh |
| 07:04.36 | alexbodn | debian mentors are quite silent at this hour |
| 07:04.52 | teledyn | eleftherios: with tcpdump and or lsof you should be able to see something |
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| 07:05.05 | eleftherios | teledyn, ah yes, it is a postgres service |
| 07:05.29 | alexbodn | and python people don't like debian-python for some reason |
| 07:07.32 | nvz | heh |
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| 07:07.44 | alexbodn | any idea? |
| 07:07.52 | nvz | mailing lists are often better |
| 07:07.54 | tralala | n00biest: try to set gcc-4.0 as the default compiler: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc{-4.0,} |
| 07:08.45 | n00biest | tralala: i did it before, the compile went smoothly |
| 07:08.48 | eleftherios | teledyn, thank you :-) |
| 07:09.02 | nvz | on a mailing list only people who really have a solution are going to bother, and you reach a wider audience. in a channel far fewer people and not all of them are looking and they cant really reply hours later when you are gone.. |
| 07:09.14 | n00biest | tralala: but when modprobbing, kernel didn't want the module |
| 07:09.27 | n00biest | tralala: ndiswrapper: version magic '2.6.16-2-686-smp SMP 686 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.16-2-686-smp SMP 686 gcc-3.3' |
| 07:09.28 | tralala | n00biest: are you sure the kernel is compiled with 4.0? |
| 07:09.41 | n00biest | tralala: no, the kernel is compiled using 3.3 |
| 07:09.53 | tralala | n00biest: did you compile it on your own? |
| 07:10.03 | n00biest | tralala: no, it's a stock kernel |
| 07:10.46 | tralala | n00biest: than you should file a bug report against ndiswrapper-source |
| 07:10.50 | tralala | then* |
| 07:11.38 | n00biest | tralala: well, that would be a first :) |
| 07:12.29 | tralala | n00biest: any m-a modules should be able to compile with the compiler used for the debian kernel |
| 07:13.24 | liable | jesus i suck at pimping myself up in a resume :/ |
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| 07:13.33 | n00biest | tralala: yes, SHOULD is here the keyword |
| 07:14.06 | ericP | anybody here using vlc to access their freebox? (would probably constrain to people in France) |
| 07:14.06 | tralala | n00biest: this is why debian has a testing branch - for the beta testers to discover and report bugs |
| 07:14.14 | liable | n00biest: export CC=gcc-3.4 and build the source, not use m-a |
| 07:14.44 | liable | n00biest: unpack the source, it will be in /usr/src |
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| 07:15.02 | tralala | liable: the source requires 3.4 or later, but the kernel is compiled with 3.3 - it is a no-go situation |
| 07:15.08 | ericP | re freebox, my vlc just started getting: RTSP/1.0 461 Unsupported Transport |
| 07:15.31 | liable | tralala: right |
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| 07:16.29 | ericP | , my vlc just started getting: RTSP/1.0 461 Unsupported Transport |
| 07:16.31 | n00biest | what if i compile my own kernel? i need it anyway. how do i do it the debian way? |
| 07:16.34 | ericP | (oops) |
| 07:16.54 | tralala | n00biest: /msg dpkg kernel image |
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| 07:17.03 | tralala | ops |
| 07:17.09 | tralala | I meant debian kernel |
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| 07:17.36 | n00biest | apt-cache search kernel |
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| 07:17.56 | n00biest | gives me nothing newer than 2.6.16 |
| 07:17.59 | tralala | n00biest: it's called linux-image now |
| 07:18.04 | ericP | n00biest, /msg dpkg kp |
| 07:18.13 | moshii | has anyone else noticed that they haven't seen new packages on their unstable box in a while? |
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| 07:18.37 | n00biest | tralala: well, still nothing above 2.6.16-2 |
| 07:18.47 | tralala | n00biest: oh, maybe that's the reason yours is compiled with 3.3 - do you have kernel-image or linux-image installed? |
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| 07:18.47 | n00biest | tralala: i know there is 2.6.17 |
| 07:19.13 | ericP | moshii, nothing sinces i last checked a half day ago, but even that's wierd |
| 07:19.16 | BankHead | Hi |
| 07:19.33 | tralala | n00biest: is there a particular reason that makes you want 2.6.17? |
| 07:19.34 | ericP | moshii, i also was getting lots of 403s on the fr mirror |
| 07:19.53 | moshii | ericP: my box hasn't seen any since I came to gibraltar 2 months ago |
| 07:19.53 | CcSsNET | n00biest, i highly recommend you follow my friends debian/ubuntu kernel guide |
| 07:19.58 | CcSsNET | it works perfectly |
| 07:20.08 | n00biest | tralala: yes, my integrated SD-card will get recgnized |
| 07:20.23 | ericP | moshii, i've certainly seen new stuff since then |
| 07:20.28 | moshii | ericP: either I have a very stable package set or something isn't working right |
| 07:20.34 | CcSsNET | ccssnet.org/ref/txt/ goto the bore folder youll see the guide there |
| 07:20.35 | tralala | n00biest: okay, go ahead then and follow the instructions of dpkg |
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| 07:20.50 | n00biest | tralala: thamk you very much |
| 07:21.13 | tralala | n00biest: you're welcome |
| 07:21.23 | ericP | moshii, yeah, i'd go wiht the latter assumption |
| 07:24.32 | kreg_work | freshmeat down? |
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| 07:27.23 | n00biest | CcSsNET: could you point me to the kernel guide? |
| 07:27.46 | CcSsNET | goto ccssnet.org |
| 07:27.49 | CcSsNET | click refreance |
| 07:27.52 | CcSsNET | click txt |
| 07:27.58 | CcSsNET | goto the b0re's folder |
| 07:28.03 | CcSsNET | and the guide is in side it |
| 07:28.16 | tralala | CcSsNET: I didn't find any bore folder there |
| 07:28.19 | CcSsNET | i did my kernel this week using ut |
| 07:28.22 | CcSsNET | hmm 1 sec |
| 07:28.53 | CcSsNET | the folder named from b0re@shyb0x.com |
| 07:28.59 | CcSsNET | sorry wasnt specific |
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| 07:30.01 | n00biest | CcSsNET: found it, many thanks |
| 07:30.34 | CcSsNET | good :) and its my pleasure, btw shytb0x.com is no longer around these files are hosted for him |
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| 07:33.37 | tralala | CcSsNET: ok, if you go directly to http://ccssnet.org/ref/txt/ you're presented with a blog, not with any folders |
| 07:35.32 | CcSsNET | tralala i know that |
| 07:36.06 | CcSsNET | its a simple redirect to my original domain so it does not carry over sub directories |
| 07:36.15 | CcSsNET | i was lazy |
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| 07:37.25 | CcSsNET | but if you use your thought process and proccess ref as refreance clicking refreance and txt as txt and clicking txt youll get to where i ment |
| 07:37.32 | CcSsNET | its only 2 clicks |
| 07:38.47 | karsten | CcSsNET: Um. Could you post the straight URL rather than a bunch of "click this, click that..." |
| 07:39.08 | karsten | CcSsNET: ... particularly as I'm not finding bore@shyb0x.com either. |
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| 07:39.44 | tralala | CcSsNET: yeah, I got there. It's just that I initially tried to go directly there and couldn't |
| 07:39.52 | karsten | CcSsNET: Ah. Frames. |
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| 07:39.54 | janez | hi |
| 07:40.03 | karsten | CcSsNET: Bad webdesigner, no donut. |
| 07:40.08 | janez | exim have a imap and pop service? |
| 07:40.09 | karsten | CcSsNET: http://ccssnet.phoenix-hosting.org/ref/index.php?dir=txt%2Ffrom+b0re%40shytb0x.com%2F |
| 07:40.15 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 07:40.18 | CcSsNET | thats it |
| 07:40.52 | CcSsNET | yes i am a lazy webdesigner that chose security over user easibility |
| 07:41.00 | CcSsNET | and simplicity in code as well |
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| 07:41.11 | janez | exim have a imap and pop service? |
| 07:41.15 | karsten | CcSsNET: ... and over speling ;-) |
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| 07:41.20 | CcSsNET | very true |
| 07:41.21 | |ryan| | Is there any way to specify what IRQ a PCI card should use from linux? |
| 07:41.31 | karsten | janez: Yeah, it's called courier. |
| 07:41.40 | n00biest | now, that i'm feeling that adventurous to compile my own kernel, could you enlighten me, i'm supposed to download 2.6.17.10 then apply the patch to 2.6.18-rc4? |
| 07:41.46 | karsten | |ryan|: On your module load, if applicable. |
| 07:41.57 | karsten | |ryan|: Otherwise, you can assign your IRQs in BIOS. |
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| 07:42.23 | n00biest | shall i stick with 2.6.17 or it's ok to go with 2.6.18? |
| 07:42.25 | CcSsNET | uhm |
| 07:42.35 | CcSsNET | just download the latest kernel |
| 07:42.37 | CcSsNET | no patch |
| 07:42.37 | sep | n00biest, are you insane !!!! sue 2.6.8 |
| 07:42.39 | tralala | n00biest: you're not supposed to apply any patches if 2.6.17 has all you need |
| 07:42.39 | sep | :) |
| 07:42.40 | CcSsNET | just the latest |
| 07:43.22 | n00biest | tralala: the newer, the better? :) |
| 07:43.29 | karsten | n00biest: Sometimes. |
| 07:43.37 | karsten | n00biest: Newer bugs, at any rate. |
| 07:43.38 | CcSsNET | read the release notes |
| 07:43.38 | n00biest | and of course, the more bugs :) |
| 07:44.33 | karsten | CcSsNET: ... and the bts, and Zack's LKML notes. |
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| 07:45.02 | karsten | Erm. Kernel Traffic. |
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| 07:45.57 | karsten | ... erp. Which has Gone Fishing... |
| 07:46.01 | karsten | http://www.kernel-traffic.org/kernel-traffic/latest.html |
| 07:47.36 | karsten | Feh. Why don't people date their damned posts? And Slashdot could iuse a year-of-article as well. |
| 07:47.44 | karsten | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/01/1651254 |
| 07:47.53 | karsten | Guessing from the URL that that's March 1 2006. |
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| 07:49.59 | remotsh | which is the news reader for debian? |
| 07:50.03 | CcSsNET | this is the result of that tutorial |
| 07:50.05 | CcSsNET | Echelon Stats: |
| 07:50.05 | CcSsNET | /dev/md0 is a raid 0 on 3 10,000 rpm scsi drives @ 160mb/s |
| 07:50.05 | CcSsNET | OS: Linux 2.6.17.8-ccssnet/i686 - Distro: Debian testing/unstable - CPU: 2 x Pentium III (Coppermine) (999.750 MHz) - Processes: 109 - Uptime: 3d 14h 54m - Users: 2 - Load Average: 2.26 - Memory Usage: 309.83MB/1012.38MB (30.60%) - Disk Usage: 3.55GB/25.52GB (13.91%) |
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| 07:50.09 | karsten | remotsh: The one you install. |
| 07:50.13 | CcSsNET | worked for me |
| 07:50.15 | karsten | remotsh: tin! |
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| 07:50.22 | CcSsNET | damn i floodededed |
| 07:50.30 | CcSsNET | hhehe |
| 07:50.33 | karsten | CcSsNET: You did? |
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| 07:50.39 | karsten | CcSsNET: Hard to tell ;-) |
| 07:50.43 | remotsh | karsten: i don't know what i have installed. how to find out? |
| 07:50.46 | digit | hi all |
| 07:50.52 | eps | is there at current a known problem with glx/nvidia under debian sid? |
| 07:50.58 | karsten | remotsh: dpkg --get-selections |
| 07:51.08 | remotsh | ok |
| 07:51.11 | karsten | !nvidia |
| 07:51.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 07:51.25 | karsten | remotsh: ... and /msg dpkg installit |
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| 07:51.53 | eps | !readmyquestion |
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| 07:52.21 | karsten | eps: /msg dpkg bts |
| 07:52.34 | karsten | eps: If there's a problem listed there that matches your situation, yes. |
| 07:52.37 | digit | hey i just had a 2week night mare with nvidia |
| 07:52.39 | karsten | eps: If there's not, file a bug. |
| 07:52.48 | azeem | eps: or read the topic |
| 07:52.54 | remotsh | karsten: i haven't got tin yet. is it the best or the only one? |
| 07:52.57 | eps | karsten I already looked, I am asking the channel if there is a known problem |
| 07:53.00 | karsten | eps: Either way, you're dealing with crap proprietary binary drivers. |
| 07:53.06 | karsten | !tell remotsh about installit |
| 07:53.22 | eps | karsten no, I may be dealing with a broken glx interface considering it is a debian update that borked it |
| 07:53.42 | karsten | eps: The channel apparently isn't aware of one. I wouldn't bank on that, however. |
| 07:53.47 | digit | ho w do you fix glx |
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| 07:54.00 | azeem | eps: what exactly is broken? |
| 07:54.36 | eps | azeem any access to glx related (3d accel in any fashion) things is killing x |
| 07:54.39 | eps | even glxinfo |
| 07:55.09 | azeem | eps: what does dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core say? |
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| 07:55.52 | eps | 1.1.1-3 ... |
| 07:55.55 | eps | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 07:55.55 | eps | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 07:55.55 | eps | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems |
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| 07:56.34 | azeem | eh, those three other lines were pretty unneeded |
| 07:56.34 | eps | interesting, there was an xserver-xorg-core update last night that fixed a glx loading error I was also finding in the nvidia log so I assume that the problem was no longer there |
| 07:57.05 | eps | azeem didn't know an easy way to find out the status of a package, do now :) |
| 07:57.14 | azeem | eps: try 1.0.2-10 from incoming.debian.org |
| 07:57.17 | digit | doesnt module-assis work anymore to install glx |
| 07:57.24 | azeem | eps: we all know the status lines, is my point |
| 07:57.26 | eps | azeem the problem was worse under that package |
| 07:57.38 | azeem | eps: you installed something from incoming already |
| 07:57.40 | eps | glx didn't load at all when x was starting |
| 07:57.43 | azeem | eps: what was worse? |
| 07:57.58 | eps | azeem when I was using 1.0.2-10 before 1.1.1-3 came through last night |
| 07:58.00 | eps | iirc anyway |
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| 07:59.57 | azeem | eps: that's pretty unlikely, seeing how -10 never existed in an APT repo |
| 08:00.19 | eps | I stand corrected then |
| 08:00.55 | flavien | Hi. I have a remote machine that I want to change kernel from 2.4 to 2.6. I'm looking for a tool of some sort to build an initrd or a kernel with all needed modules. |
| 08:01.10 | eps | how do I swap out the current xserver-core for this older one? |
| 08:01.32 | flavien | Unfortunately I have no console access and all tries so far have resulted in a hard reboot. |
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| 08:02.10 | |ryan| | karsten: yeah, I tried to assign IRQs in the BIOS, but the BIOS is lame and won't let me |
| 08:03.02 | karsten | |ryan|: Oh well. |
| 08:03.09 | karsten | |ryan|: Why are you trying to assign IRQs? |
| 08:04.17 | azeem | eps: dpkg -i <package>.deb |
| 08:04.29 | eps | kk |
| 08:04.58 | eps | back soon |
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| 08:08.26 | |ryan| | karsten: I've got a PCI card that won't work when shating IRQs |
| 08:09.11 | karsten | |ryan|: shatting? Or sharing? |
| 08:10.38 | liable | sharing a shitty irq and the kernel shat? |
| 08:10.46 | |ryan| | sharing |
| 08:10.53 | |ryan| | it's a shitty card |
| 08:11.11 | |ryan| | I _WAS_ working previously. |
| 08:11.14 | karsten | |ryan|: Maybe you should shoot it/ |
| 08:11.17 | |ryan| | in the same computer |
| 08:11.18 | karsten | s,/,?, |
| 08:11.27 | karsten | |ryan|: Kernel upgrade? |
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| 08:11.43 | |ryan| | karsten: it was working in this computer with this kernel. |
| 08:11.49 | streuner_ | !nickometer |ryan| |
| 08:11.51 | dpkg | '|ryan|' is 26.000% lame, streuner_ |
| 08:12.00 | karsten | |ryan|: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-hw2.html |
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| 08:12.32 | |ryan| | I had installed a diffrent card and moved the troublsome one to a diffrent slot. |
| 08:12.33 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all, to share a net_printer is correct lpadmin -p phtstamp -v lpd://192.168.13.1 -P /root/driver/pe120.ppd -E |
| 08:12.45 | karsten | |ryan|: isapnptools, or jumpers. |
| 08:12.50 | |ryan| | then i took out the other card and moved the one that now won't work back. |
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| 08:13.01 | |ryan| | no jumpers :/ |
| 08:13.06 | karsten | |ryan|: What sort of card, and what if you remove all other cards? |
| 08:13.22 | |ryan| | all other cards are removed. |
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| 08:13.37 | karsten | |ryan|: Read that URL I just posted, there's a troubleshooting / resolution section about 1/3 of the way through it. |
| 08:13.51 | |ryan| | It's a X100P clone for use with asterisk |
| 08:14.22 | karsten | |ryan|: Pretty much options: swap cards, nuke cards, BIOS config, jumpers, isapnptools. |
| 08:14.45 | karsten | |ryan|: Otherwise you're hosed. cat /proc/interrupts is your friend. |
| 08:15.21 | |ryan| | I've those first 3 already, could not find any jumpers |
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| 08:15.35 | karsten | So I heard. |
| 08:15.54 | karsten | |ryan|: See if you can't find mobo manual at mfr's site, might be hidden somewhere. |
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| 08:17.25 | eps | azeem: no effect |
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| 08:17.45 | eps | any further suggestions? |
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| 08:19.37 | azeem | eps: did you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.Debian |
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| 08:20.09 | eps | azeem: sure did, all is setup as required (even double checked) |
| 08:20.21 | azeem | eps: did 3d accel ever work for you? |
| 08:20.38 | eps | looking in /var/log/gdm/:0.log it blames glx not loading...though x.log shows glx loading without issue |
| 08:20.53 | azeem | check the timestamps of those |
| 08:21.01 | azeem | maybe the former one is outdated |
| 08:21.02 | eps | azeem: yes, and under this config for over a month...the problem appears to have been introduced some time last week in an update |
| 08:21.45 | eps | though I didn't notice the problems extent until I rebooted yesterday (I noticed a minor problem...but sid, normally ignore them :P) |
| 08:21.56 | eps | the time stamps are for the same sessions |
| 08:22.03 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all, to share a net_printer i do lpadmin -p phtstamp -v lpd://192.168.13.1 -P /root/driver/pe120.ppd -E but nothing is printed out!!!! |
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| 08:22.48 | Glanzmann | Hello; I am looking for a script which upgrades my debian System automatically. |
| 08:23.04 | Glanzmann | Currently I use the following: http://pbot.rmdir.de/a8ec3c954985f22d2b28e30ab3fca181 |
| 08:23.12 | eps | aptitude update && aptitude upgrade -dy should do it? |
| 08:23.41 | threw | yes it should do it with cron or some stuff like this |
| 08:23.41 | Glanzmann | eps: I don't want to get asked any questions and it should run via cron. |
| 08:23.58 | eps | Glanzmann: indeed, you can assume yes to all and just add it to a cron tab |
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| 08:25.08 | eps | aptitude upgrade -y seems right |
| 08:25.09 | Glanzmann | I see. |
| 08:25.32 | eps | though if you are running sid I recommend against that, it's always good to know what is being updated if some thing breaks |
| 08:25.40 | Glanzmann | I run testing. |
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| 08:26.05 | Glanzmann | And I still let it send eMails |
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| 08:28.08 | fireba11 | Glanzmann: cron-apt ? |
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| 08:29.26 | simonrvn | apticron, cron-apt and maybe a coupla others |
| 08:31.04 | Glanzmann | fireba11: Tell me about it. |
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| 08:31.42 | cydork | !apt-get cron |
| 08:31.42 | dpkg | Don't do it! If your unattended apt-get upgrade blows up, your system could be unusable, and you won't even have a prompt on the console to answer. |
| 08:32.00 | fluctus | i d/led a .deb for jedit off their site, and while installing, ran into errors. i haven't been able to succesfully install it. so now whenever i do an `apt-get install foo`, it builds package lists and dep trees succesfully, and then i get the error "E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it" |
| 08:32.18 | fluctus | i've tried to apt-get remove the package, but i get similar errors to when i tried installing it |
| 08:32.22 | fluctus | any ideas? |
| 08:33.00 | Glanzmann | cydork: I did automated upgrades on woody and sarge on 150 productive machines in university. |
| 08:33.04 | Glanzmann | once an hour. |
| 08:33.18 | Glanzmann | It broke once a not productive psql database. |
| 08:33.26 | Glanzmann | The productive one made the update. |
| 08:33.35 | Glanzmann | But that was on an automated dist-upgrade from woody to sarge. |
| 08:33.52 | Glanzmann | So at least with debian I trust automated updates. |
| 08:33.58 | Glanzmann | But I always used a shell script for it. |
| 08:34.12 | fluctus | i'm not sure if it matters, but the error i get when trying to install is 'dpkg: error processing jedit_4.3pre6_all.deb (--install): |
| 08:34.12 | fluctus | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.36 | Glanzmann | This one: http://pbot.rmdir.de/d8201d7506e1bf30072cab3efdedf6f1 |
| 08:34.45 | fireba11 | Glanzmann: you can configure detailed what apt- tasks you want to do automacigally, and what info you want to get mailed .. i just use it do do a nightly apt-get update and info about changed packages |
| 08:35.26 | cydork | Glanzmann, you try cron-apt by default it just updates the packages and download debs. |
| 08:36.31 | cydork | Glanzmann, you can configure it to do everything which apt can does but it's not advised ... |
| 08:37.09 | Glanzmann | What do you mean by everything? How could it do more than download and update debs? |
| 08:37.12 | Glanzmann | I can't follow you here. |
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| 08:38.52 | cydork | Glanzmann, see man :) |
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| 08:39.30 | Glanzmann | the manpage of apt-cron doesn't tell me much. |
| 08:39.36 | Glanzmann | It is more like a skeleton than a manpage |
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| 08:39.56 | Glanzmann | But the configfile seems to talk to me. |
| 08:40.19 | eps | the config file normally has examples, sckuttle one of those |
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| 08:40.40 | eps | 0k |
| 08:40.42 | eps | -k* |
| 08:40.44 | cydork | Glanzmann, check /usr/share/doc/cron-apt/examples |
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| 08:42.18 | JerKB | I know this has got to come down to missing just one little step... first time using debian for a desktop and trying to get X going. Right now the only thing I have to go off of is /var/log/X.0.log that's created when I do "Xorg" as root. I know there's got to be an easier way to do this. heheh. any suggestions |
| 08:43.02 | JerKB | it DOES start when I do that, so i have all the drivers i need... |
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| 08:44.26 | JerKB | i thougt there'd be a xorgcfg script or something to work with, but doesn't seem to be. |
| 08:45.06 | JerKB | am I missing a package somewhere or am I looking at everything I need and not seeing it? |
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| 08:46.03 | |ryan| | erg, this stupid bios seems to TRY to share IRQs |
| 08:46.16 | |ryan| | and there is no way to reset it to factory defaults |
| 08:46.27 | |ryan| | the bios reset jumprer doesn't work |
| 08:46.28 | |ryan| | erg! |
| 08:46.39 | Glanzmann | Thanks for the pointers. |
| 08:46.51 | JerKB | need a hammer? |
| 08:47.06 | JerKB | you can use mine when I'm done with it... |
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| 08:48.08 | liable | !drxx JerKB |
| 08:48.08 | dpkg | JerKB: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 08:48.30 | liable | JerKB: what exactly did you install? |
| 08:48.31 | JerKB | yah.. i tried that.. several times. it does nothing. |
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| 08:48.43 | liable | JerKB: apt-get install xorg |
| 08:48.53 | JerKB | i installed xorg |
| 08:48.54 | cydork | JerKB, do you have xorg installed?? |
| 08:48.55 | JerKB | uh |
| 08:48.56 | JerKB | wdm |
| 08:48.59 | JerKB | ... |
| 08:49.02 | JerKB | icewm, |
| 08:49.07 | JerKB | lesse... |
| 08:49.14 | JerKB | all kinds of modules and headers |
| 08:49.15 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all, to share a net_printer i do lpadmin -p phtstamp -v lpd://192.168.13.1 -P /root/driver/pe120.ppd -E but nothing is printed out!!!! |
| 08:49.18 | JerKB | and libs |
| 08:49.27 | cydork | JerKB, which debian are you using? |
| 08:49.42 | liable | JerKB: you mean it |
| 08:49.56 | ktwilight | how would i check which process is eating up most ram? |
| 08:50.02 | liable | doesnt do anything, or it doesnt do *anything* |
| 08:50.10 | Guerin | ktwilight: top, hit M |
| 08:50.14 | JerKB | testing |
| 08:50.15 | ktwilight | thanks Guerin |
| 08:50.37 | Guerin | ktwilight: or you can do some awk mojo |
| 08:50.43 | JerKB | had a old 2.6 install disk and popped it in, i've done the dist-upgrades and all. |
| 08:50.59 | ktwilight | awk is too high level for me Guerin...but i'll nnote both :) |
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| 08:51.34 | trygg | Heh, just a quick offtopic question, are there any macosx-like docker for gnome? (that doesnt have to have the half kde-packages) |
| 08:51.38 | JerKB | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just sits there for a sec and exits. |
| 08:51.47 | JerKB | i thought it'd brign up the config dialogs. |
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| 08:52.03 | cydork | JerKB, do you have dialog installed? |
| 08:52.06 | JerKB | tried changingverbosity... |
| 08:52.07 | JerKB | yeah |
| 08:52.56 | JerKB | i know.. i'm kinda lost. i've used debian a lot on servers, and mepis and ubuntu on desktops so i'm not a n00b totally lol |
| 08:54.01 | JerKB | it's like i've got the outlet in my left hand and the lamp in my right and the dang cord's missing. |
| 08:54.34 | cydork | JerKB, ok did you dist-upgrade from stable?? |
| 08:54.54 | liable | JerKB: do you have 'xorg' installed?? |
| 08:55.29 | JerKB | ok.. i had a netinst cd.. when IT asked for the branch i wanted to install initially, i chose testing. |
| 08:55.54 | JerKB | so the base-files on the cd that were 2.6rsomething, they're all gone now. |
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| 08:59.29 | JerKB | far's i know, yah... i mean i've installed every xorg package I can see on here. |
| 09:00.05 | JerKB | about 2 hours ago I sat here going through "apt-cache search x" and getting them all |
| 09:00.56 | liable | JerKB: xorg is a meat package that get you everything you nedd.. |
| 09:00.58 | liable | need |
| 09:01.07 | cydork | JerKB, all you had to install was xserver-xorg |
| 09:01.20 | JerKB | DOH! |
| 09:01.48 | JerKB | pffft... and there's that damn snake |
| 09:02.01 | JerKB | i'd gone abouyt it all backwards hehehe. |
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| 09:03.10 | JerKB | well now that i look and feel like a complete tool... |
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| 09:03.15 | JerKB | thank you muchly |
| 09:03.18 | JerKB | :-) |
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| 09:03.31 | cuco | hi, is vlc available on testing? in which repository? (it's not on main) |
| 09:03.36 | danimo | moin! |
| 09:03.40 | cydork | !info vlc |
| 09:03.47 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.5.debian-2 (sid), Packaged size: 6315 kB, Installed size: 15516 kB |
| 09:03.59 | cuco | it is :) |
| 09:04.13 | liable | not in etch.. |
| 09:04.16 | cuco | so, not in etch? |
| 09:04.22 | cuco | dho! |
| 09:04.25 | liable | !+info vlc etch |
| 09:04.26 | dpkg | Package 'vlc' does not exist. |
| 09:04.37 | liable | !why is vlc not in testing? |
| 09:04.37 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 09:04.40 | danimo | is anyone familiar with the ITP for libmtp ? |
| 09:04.43 | cuco | well, at least vlc-doc is on etch |
| 09:05.35 | danimo | Bug#382195 |
| 09:08.18 | phatbyte | hi - i bought a hp proliant ml110 with a sata raid controller.. now if i install sarge it cant find any drives.. if i boot with linux26 the drives were found but it doesnt show the raid array it shows the two drives.. why? |
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| 09:09.11 | threw | hi all ! |
| 09:09.27 | liable | phatbyte: whats the chipset? |
| 09:09.51 | threw | could anyone tell me how to force to uninstall some buggy package please ? apt-get remove dont work (some error in the package) |
| 09:10.18 | phatbyte | liable not sure about that.. i think its a adaptec 2610SA |
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| 09:10.45 | dob1 | hi |
| 09:11.08 | dob1 | using vi , when you see a word with | in blue near it, what does it mean? |
| 09:11.24 | liable | phatbyte: totally depends on the chipset, sounds like it may be software controller.. check http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html |
| 09:11.36 | karsten | How would I configure my mouse for x.org: http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/3905/ratpower4gk.jpg |
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| 09:11.52 | karsten | threw: Post output of remove attempt. |
| 09:11.56 | phatbyte | liable thanks for the hint! |
| 09:11.59 | karsten | !tell threw about paster |
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| 09:13.16 | liable | phatbyte: heres another http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
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| 09:14.09 | phatbyte | liable thanks! is there a good hardware sata raid controller which is fully supported by debian? |
| 09:14.20 | liable | phatbyte: hrm, that last link says its hardware if its a 21610SA |
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| 09:15.19 | liable | phatbyte: cant seem to go wrong with 3ware (so they say, if you can afford em) |
| 09:15.48 | phatbyte | liable ok thanks so i will check them out |
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| 09:16.02 | threw | karsten: well, ive tried to install xgl-compiz, so now i have ugly stuff: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3530 |
| 09:16.24 | liable | phatbyte: if it is the 21610sa, and you see two disks, check in bios settings for it |
| 09:16.35 | liable | threw: haha |
| 09:16.54 | karsten | threw: Rather than translating stuff by hand, run 'export LANG=C' prior to attempt. |
| 09:16.55 | liable | threw: you got that from ubuntu repos? |
| 09:17.16 | karsten | threw: ... and where did you find a Debian package that's trying to use SuSEconfig? |
| 09:17.53 | liable | karsten: i think its prolly a bastardised rpm |
| 09:18.05 | karsten | threw: Run: 'export LANG=C; aptitude remove xgl' |
| 09:18.16 | karsten | threw: ... and paste output to paster again. |
| 09:18.31 | karsten | liable: Yeah, Novell's packaging the xgl stuff I'll wot. |
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| 09:18.49 | liable | wot? |
| 09:18.54 | SNow | hey guys, How could I make a .deb package of all / and then, how can I extract everything again to another hard drive? |
| 09:19.00 | karsten | liable: Yep. |
| 09:19.13 | threw | liable & karsten: i got the package here: http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm |
| 09:19.27 | SlayerXP | SNow: you don't, see "dpkg --get-selections" and "dpkg --set-selections" |
| 09:19.49 | karsten | SNow: dpkg --get-selections > file on this box. dpkg --set-selections < file; apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 09:20.07 | threw | karsten: in real english: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3531 |
| 09:20.07 | karsten | SNow: ... on the other box. |
| 09:20.15 | karsten | threw: merci! |
| 09:20.25 | threw | ;-p your welcome :o |
| 09:20.41 | karsten | threw: apt-get remove, not dpkg -r |
| 09:21.06 | threw | same stuff |
| 09:21.09 | threw | i try anyway |
| 09:21.26 | karsten | threw: It'll tell me the name of the script. Anyhow, you may want to just add 'exit 0' to the top of /var/lib/dpkg/info/xgl.postrm |
| 09:21.55 | threw | karsten: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3532 |
| 09:22.10 | threw | ok |
| 09:22.26 | karsten | That's one helatiously broken deb. |
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| 09:23.06 | karsten | threw: Where'd you get it from? |
| 09:23.32 | threw | here: http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm |
| 09:24.41 | cydork | threw, i think it uses alien to convert from rpm to deb and which is not trusted. |
| 09:24.49 | SNow | karsten roger that :) |
| 09:24.53 | karsten | threw: While you're at it you might want to run 'dpkg -L xgl' to get a listing of what that installed. |
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| 09:25.10 | karsten | threw: ... you can always nuke it by hand. |
| 09:25.12 | karsten | SNow: NP. |
| 09:25.45 | SNow | and all the data in / will we made? |
| 09:25.54 | SNow | because I want to put it somewhere else if someday everything goes down |
| 09:25.59 | SNow | just to backup everything |
| 09:26.20 | karsten | SNow: No. That sets up a new box with the package selection of your current one. |
| 09:26.20 | threw | karsten: dpkg -L xgl: Package `xgl' does not contain any files (!) :oo |
| 09:26.25 | karsten | SNow: You're not asking a very clear question. |
| 09:26.30 | karsten | threw: Ugh. |
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| 09:26.52 | karsten | threw: man dpkg. You can also query the deb file itself directly. |
| 09:26.58 | karsten | SNow: What are you trying to do? |
| 09:27.16 | threw | karsten: ahhhhhhhh : http://channels.debian.net/paste/3533 |
| 09:27.16 | karsten | SNow: For backups or mirrors, I'd recommend tar and/or rsync. |
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| 09:27.34 | karsten | SNow: google: linux backup faq |
| 09:27.44 | SNow | I have installed the system, configured it, and I am afraid that one day the hdd will crash, and I don't want to configure everything |
| 09:28.00 | SNow | karsten and the selections, what does it? |
| 09:28.09 | karsten | SNow: One minute. |
| 09:28.30 | karsten | threw: Um. That indicates a problem with your system, not just the xgl package. |
| 09:28.35 | liable | SNow: if its just configs you are worried about, just cp /etc and your /home dotfiles somewhere |
| 09:28.44 | SNow | not actually |
| 09:28.50 | SNow | I'm woried about the reinstaling and so on |
| 09:28.53 | SNow | I want to make that kind of cd |
| 09:29.01 | SNow | that I put it in, and the system backups again |
| 09:29.03 | SNow | like it was |
| 09:29.05 | SNow | even on other hdd |
| 09:29.08 | threw | karsten: erf well, i think that i should love format my computer ;-p |
| 09:29.14 | karsten | SNow: Reinstalling your Debian system is straightforward, that's the first answer I gave you. |
| 09:29.33 | SNow | This will be needed yes? |
| 09:29.48 | karsten | SNow: If you want a backup/restore guideline, see this: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html |
| 09:30.12 | SNow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.15 | liable | SNow: you might want to look at partimage, i think it might be what you want |
| 09:30.20 | SNow | I thought that somehow I can make all system a .deb package |
| 09:30.24 | karsten | SNow: ... note that for Debian, you have your data, your system configuration, and your package selection. Roughly: /home, /etc, and /usr, respectively (with a few other bits). |
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| 09:30.44 | Quiznos | what's net-pf-10? |
| 09:30.46 | karsten | SNow: Don't worry about backing up your packages, it's easier to just reinstall, given a decent listing of what you had. |
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| 09:31.11 | Kaeles | how do you restart nfs? |
| 09:31.25 | Quiznos | reboot |
| 09:31.33 | karsten | SNow: One thing I should add to that faq is that you can use rsync to rapidly keep backups up-to-date between systems. |
| 09:31.43 | karsten | Kaeles: /etc/init.d/nfs restart |
| 09:31.53 | karsten | Kaeles: May also need to restart portmap |
| 09:32.52 | Kaeles | did they change the NFS-server thing |
| 09:32.58 | Kaeles | cause i had to install the nfs-kernel-server |
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| 09:33.16 | Kaeles | and it wouldn't let me restart it via /etc/initd./nfs |
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| 09:33.31 | Nebukadneza | hi |
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| 09:34.19 | Nebukadneza | i got some problems with my cups since i upgraded. somehow i cant add a hp paralell port printer anymore - i dont know why. i the dropdown field on the webui it just doesnt appear anymore :/ |
| 09:34.21 | karsten | Kaeles: I'd have to look up the specific packages and init.d scripts. IIRC it's nfc-server and portmapper, possibly rpc. |
| 09:34.43 | Fox | SNow: you might want to have a look at g4l |
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| 09:35.07 | Kaeles | its k |
| 09:35.12 | Kaeles | i tried nfs-server too |
| 09:35.14 | Kaeles | i just reboot |
| 09:35.18 | Kaeles | rebooted :P |
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| 09:35.41 | CyberMad | what is other editor than vi? |
| 09:35.58 | infernix | nano |
| 09:36.01 | infernix | joe, emacs |
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| 09:36.11 | CyberMad | my vi corrupt from debian-31r2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:36.21 | neenaoffline | CyberMad, vim ? |
| 09:36.21 | eleftherios | has anyone on Etch had problems with python-mysqldb after upgrading? I get error 2014 on MySQLdb.connect() right after an apt-get upgrade |
| 09:36.30 | liable | Nebukadneza: do you still have the foomatic stuff installed? |
| 09:36.34 | karsten | CyberMad: cat <<EOF > file |
| 09:36.54 | karsten | CyberMad: ... or nvi, or nano, or ed, or ex, or elvis, or emacs.... |
| 09:37.09 | Nebukadneza | liable: yes - at least afaik |
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| 09:37.27 | liable | Nebukadneza: know, dont guess |
| 09:37.31 | Nebukadneza | foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-gimp-print foomatic-db-gutenprint foomatic-filters foomatic-filters-ppds are installed |
| 09:37.45 | Nebukadneza | foonatic-data and foomatic-bin are "un" |
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| 09:39.03 | di | how do i make gdm use startfluxbox? |
| 09:39.37 | neenaoffline | di, click session and select fluxbox ? |
| 09:39.42 | dondelelcaro | di: create a session that does that, or use the Debian or Xsession and stick that in your ~/.Xsession |
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| 09:40.27 | CyberMad | thanks |
| 09:40.29 | Nebukadneza | liable: just installed the -data and -bin packets (even though cupsomatic-ppd gets lost through that) but nothing changed |
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| 09:41.13 | liable | Nebukadneza: hrm |
| 09:41.20 | Nebukadneza | strange, isnt it? :( |
| 09:41.33 | liable | Nebukadneza: checked the bts? |
| 09:41.39 | Nebukadneza | bts? |
| 09:42.13 | liable | Nebukadneza: bugs.debian.org |
| 09:42.23 | Nebukadneza | ah |
| 09:42.26 | di | dondelecaro: not in /home, but in /etc |
| 09:42.27 | Nebukadneza | not yet |
| 09:42.44 | dondelelcaro | di: no, in ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession |
| 09:42.55 | dondelelcaro | do not munge with the system wide xsession |
| 09:42.59 | jelly-home | how do I make a symlink factoid? |
| 09:43.08 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: for what? |
| 09:43.21 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: ntfs3g -> ntfs-3g |
| 09:43.22 | di | <dondelelcaro> no such folder |
| 09:43.37 | Si_tech | Hello. I upgraded from Sarge to Testing and I am not getting the graphical login prompt. I start at runlevel 2. I can switch to run level 3 "telinit 3" but I cannot get runlevel 5. |
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| 09:43.45 | CyberMad | i tried.. route add gw 172.168.100.1 but why result: gw: Host name lookup failure |
| 09:43.45 | dondelelcaro | di: it's a file, not a folder... |
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| 09:44.19 | dondelelcaro | di: see http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/home_modules/x_base/.xsession if you're having a hard time |
| 09:44.26 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: literal ntfs3g |
| 09:44.26 | dpkg | "ntfs3g" is "see ntfs-3g" |
| 09:44.31 | CyberMad | if i type route, the destination still 172.168.0.0 |
| 09:44.37 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: ntfs3g is <reply> see ntfs-3g |
| 09:44.38 | dpkg | ...but ntfs3g is already something else... |
| 09:44.41 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, ntfs3g is <reply> see ntfs-3g |
| 09:44.41 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 09:44.47 | jelly-home | thanks |
| 09:44.57 | Si_tech | msg dpkg libglx |
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| 09:45.20 | Si_tech | msg dpkg glx |
| 09:45.31 | Si_tech | msg dpkg etch |
| 09:45.32 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: np |
| 09:45.33 | cydork | Si_tech, use /msg |
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| 09:45.49 | Si_tech | duh |
| 09:46.46 | CyberMad | damn.. i forget the word "default" |
| 09:46.58 | CyberMad | it should route add gw default 172.168.100.1 |
| 09:47.23 | DanC_lap | hmm... "don't upgrade the X server in unstable"... any advice on how to get unstuck if I did? |
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| 09:48.11 | sotarn | Anyone with alsa care to give some feedback on a script that switches default soundcard ? ( http://www20.brinkster.com/warranty/alsaswitch.txt ) |
| 09:48.50 | DanC_lap | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks all sorts of relevant questions but doesn't write anything to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 09:50.14 | Nebukadneza | liable: checked - no bug affecting this |
| 09:52.12 | Nebukadneza | liable: i somehow have the feeling i just need to tell cups to look on /dev/lp0 for the printer again |
| 09:52.18 | di | dondelelcaro: no such file either |
| 09:52.22 | Nebukadneza | (i can do echo "foo" > /dev/lp0 and everything works just fine) |
| 09:52.40 | di | creating it now |
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| 09:55.58 | Doat | i'm trying to install fglrx with module-assistant. the module builds fine but it can't be installed because: fglrx-kernel-2.6.16-2-k7-smp depends on fglrx-driver (= 8.26.18-1); however: Version of fglrx-driver on system is 8.24.8-1. |
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| 10:01.11 | ootput | bazaar for sarge doesn't appear to provide any binaries. Is anyone using bzr on sarge? |
| 10:01.43 | fasta | ootput: darcs is the new hype |
| 10:01.57 | dondelelcaro | ootput: there are backports of it available; google knows where they are |
| 10:02.08 | ootput | fasta: no, mercurial is :) |
| 10:02.14 | ootput | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 10:02.27 | dondelelcaro | backports.org may have it; if not apt-get.org probably does. |
| 10:02.59 | fasta | ootput: http://changelog.complete.org/posts/528-Whose-Distributed-VCS-Is-The-Most-Distributed.html |
| 10:03.48 | ootput | fasta: ah, but that's purely subjective :) |
| 10:03.55 | fasta | ootput: everything is |
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| 10:04.00 | ootput | too right |
| 10:04.16 | fasta | ootput: even mathematics |
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| 10:13.23 | wireddd | there isn't any harm in doing a dist-upgrade every now and then is there? |
| 10:13.39 | azeem | wireddd: depends on which distribution of Debian you're running |
| 10:13.44 | wireddd | etch |
| 10:14.01 | cydork | wireddd, you can do it only once then :) |
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| 10:14.09 | wireddd | it seems that just an apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade nearly as much |
| 10:14.10 | azeem | wireddd: then the harm should be moderate |
| 10:14.29 | azeem | wireddd: just watch out for trouble, like huge amounts of packages suddently being removed |
| 10:14.33 | wireddd | I am not going from etch to sid, I am just doing etch to etch |
| 10:14.42 | azeem | wireddd: of course, it is testing, so things might still break |
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| 10:15.54 | RichiH | what is the prgram for mouse support on the ttys? |
| 10:15.59 | RichiH | i keep on forgetting :/ |
| 10:16.03 | bionoid | gpm |
| 10:16.04 | azeem | gpm |
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| 10:16.20 | RichiH | argh |
| 10:16.22 | RichiH | thanks |
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| 10:16.33 | wireddd | what does that do? |
| 10:16.49 | RichiH | wireddd: mouse support on the tty, including copy&paste |
| 10:16.57 | wireddd | really |
| 10:17.13 | wireddd | good to know |
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| 10:18.18 | RichiH | wireddd: it's good to install on all your boxen, too |
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| 10:20.02 | xored | what is the diffrence betwenn drm and dri ? |
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| 10:20.34 | azeem | xored: drm is the kernel side, dri the X side |
| 10:20.51 | xored | azeem: what should i use then ? |
| 10:21.20 | azeem | xored: both, if you want3D acceleration |
| 10:21.24 | xored | azeem: i got x11-drm compiled and i got dri activated in the xoptions ( dri module loaded for the kernel ) |
| 10:21.33 | azeem | what is x11-drm? |
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| 10:22.23 | xored | a package for xorg 7.01 |
| 10:22.58 | azeem | xored: which version of Debian |
| 10:22.59 | azeem | ? |
| 10:23.12 | xored | one sec |
| 10:23.47 | xored | ah one second, this one was the gentoo machine, iam disturbed. its debian unstable, the other one |
| 10:24.26 | azeem | so what is your problem? |
| 10:24.33 | Nebukadneza | hum |
| 10:24.33 | JMT | have anybody of you amd64 unstable debian? |
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| 10:24.41 | Nebukadneza | have device uris in cups 1.2.x changed? |
| 10:24.51 | azeem | JMT: ask specific questions, please |
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| 10:25.58 | JMT | I need working sources.list for my debian what is my amd64 computer and I want it unstable |
| 10:26.01 | Nebukadneza | strike! i can cups-print again |
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| 10:28.17 | azeem | JMT: what version of Debian are you currently running? |
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| 10:29.13 | JMT | amd64 sarge |
| 10:29.43 | JMT | and i want change it to unstable |
| 10:29.44 | azeem | JMT: be aware that unstable is not supported here and likely to break at times |
| 10:29.52 | azeem | (currently, X is broken) |
| 10:30.24 | azeem | JMT: change your main deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list to something like 'deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian unstable main" |
| 10:30.32 | azeem | where <cc> is your country code |
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| 10:30.38 | azeem | like fi |
| 10:31.04 | xored | azeem: i have to machines of same time, one with gentoo one with debian unstable. My problem is, both have the i915 graphic card. I can get dri running with mesa 6.4, but then i get black screeen for example on googleearth. Using a newer mesa 6.5, causes, that he is not able to use dri anymore |
| 10:31.42 | azeem | xored: are you talking about your gentoo or Debian installation now? |
| 10:31.51 | xored | debian unstable |
| 10:32.06 | azeem | where do you have mesa-6.5 from? |
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| 10:32.59 | xored | homepage |
| 10:33.08 | xored | azeem: i just see that in glxinfo |
| 10:33.12 | azeem | which homepage? |
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| 10:33.34 | xored | OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2) |
| 10:33.44 | xored | but i have a higher version instaled |
| 10:33.50 | xored | mesa homepage -> cvs |
| 10:34.00 | azeem | xored: so you should ask those people I guess |
| 10:35.08 | xored | there is no "mesa" channel :/ |
| 10:35.32 | azeem | xored: they have mailing list and bug trackers I guess |
| 10:35.42 | azeem | xored: really, if you want help here, don't install random stuff from CVS |
| 10:36.15 | xored | azeem: but with the deb package, its not working :/ |
| 10:36.21 | azeem | so fix it |
| 10:36.24 | azeem | or wait |
| 10:37.59 | xored | thank you for your help |
| 10:38.22 | azeem | xored: what graphic card do you have? |
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| 10:39.10 | xored | i915 |
| 10:39.19 | xored | thats the "problem" |
| 10:39.28 | xored | i had so much problems with it.. |
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| 10:39.47 | azeem | xored: you might have to wait till 7.1 hits unstable |
| 10:39.54 | azeem | and/or use X/mesa from experimental |
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| 10:40.18 | azeem | it should be fairly easy to research which version of X/mesa supports this chipset |
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| 10:41.34 | xored | azeem: iam allready on 7.0.1 |
| 10:41.47 | azeem | yes, experimental has 7.1 |
| 10:42.03 | azeem | xored: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed? |
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| 10:42.15 | azeem | anyway, I'm off to lunch now |
| 10:42.16 | xored | one second |
| 10:42.22 | xored | have a good lunch |
| 10:48.10 | RvGaTe | i just ordered my lunch... |
| 10:48.13 | RvGaTe | 15 euro.. :S |
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| 10:53.24 | Codemaster_ | hi all, a quick question, is it possible to connect back to a ssh session after a nework problem ? my vpn is quite unstable and i have a load of sessions open for nothing and i sometimes lose the output i was waiting for |
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| 10:53.53 | Codemaster_ | " |
| 10:54.33 | petemc | Codemaster_: use screen |
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| 10:55.27 | waraxtle | hi |
| 10:55.34 | waraxtle | excuse me |
| 10:55.36 | mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.55 | waraxtle | i'he a problem with serial port |
| 10:56.02 | waraxtle | someone can help me?? |
| 10:56.11 | Codemaster_ | isn't on my system i gonna search for it thanks |
| 10:56.28 | waraxtle | i use setserial stty and i have written code in C |
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| 10:56.40 | waraxtle | but don't set baud rate |
| 10:57.02 | waraxtle | setserial says baud rate 9600 |
| 10:57.26 | waraxtle | but it's false |
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| 10:59.25 | anapivirtua | Hello World |
| 10:59.42 | Mawze__ | question: how do i find a list of IP addresses connected to the same network? |
| 11:00.00 | Mawze__ | i need to connect to my work pc, all I have access to is the debian server |
| 11:00.11 | Shadur | Mawze__: You don't. Best you can do is ping broadcast and hope people respond. |
| 11:00.19 | Mawze__ | which is connected to a router with port forwarding for port 20 |
| 11:00.35 | Mawze__ | that sucks |
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| 11:00.45 | Mawze__ | thanks |
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| 11:01.04 | Mawze__ | sad thing is, i setup my computer with a static ip |
| 11:01.12 | Mawze__ | and cannot remember the ip :( |
| 11:01.38 | IndyBC | Hello. How can I (with apt-get for example) get a package and all its dependencies and its dependencies' dependencies etc, all in .deb files? |
| 11:01.39 | petemc | nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 11:01.53 | Codemaster_ | petemc: it reports no screens to be resumed |
| 11:02.08 | IndyBC | I want to do this, because I want to transfer the .deb files to a pc that has not got an internet connection. |
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| 11:02.18 | petemc | Codemaster_: just type screen, no arguments |
| 11:02.29 | syntaxx | IndyBC, when you apt-get install <package> all dependencies will be downloaded in .deb also |
| 11:02.52 | Kronoz | IndyBC, not on debian atm, but i think something like `apt-get build-dep foo-package --download-only` look at apt-get --help |
| 11:03.46 | Kaeles | where is the portmap settings? |
| 11:03.49 | IndyBC | syntaxx: ok |
| 11:03.53 | IndyBC | Kronoz: thx |
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| 11:04.55 | wireddd | it must have been a while sine I last upgraded |
| 11:05.13 | wireddd | when abouts is etch moving to stable? |
| 11:05.18 | Codemaster_ | " |
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| 11:05.24 | Cloude | Hello guys!Can you do me a favour?Please take a look at this site!It want hurt you and for sure it doesn`t cost a thing! I Promise! http://s4.bitefight.de/c.php?uid=35030 |
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| 11:06.01 | redhog | Does anyone know why http://live.debian.net/debian just got 404ed? I've used it to get the make-live and casper pkgs before, but now it's gone... |
| 11:06.07 | Codemaster_ | petemc: alright i got it thnxs |
| 11:06.11 | wireddd | Cloude, get lost |
| 11:06.13 | tralala | wireddd: current release plans - december |
| 11:06.15 | eleftherios | I have been hot by the bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383603 in python-mysqldb. The notes say that the bug is fixed in version 1.2.1-p2-3 but this version in not available for the i386 arch. Any pointers please? This is for Debian Etch |
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| 11:08.54 | tijn | i need to split up a large mailfile in separate mails mail001 mail 002 etc. does this do the trick?: cat mailboxname | formail -s > file |
| 11:10.46 | IndyBC | Kronoz: OK, I did so. Now, where can I get the downloaded .deb files? |
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| 11:13.00 | fm | tijn, that way you get another big mailbox named 'file' |
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| 11:13.11 | tijn | aha |
| 11:13.26 | fm | tijn, add some incrementing numbet with the filename |
| 11:13.34 | IndyBC | Kronoz: so, any ideas? |
| 11:14.21 | tijn | fm: never done that, how? |
| 11:15.31 | cydork | IndyBC, check apt-zip i think that will be more helpful. |
| 11:15.36 | tralala | IndyBC: /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 11:17.39 | IndyBC | tralala: there, it has all tha packages I recently installed. I just want the ones for build-essential |
| 11:17.45 | IndyBC | cydork: ok |
| 11:18.03 | IndyBC | cydork: apt-zip: command not found |
| 11:18.24 | IndyBC | cydork: ok, I downloaded it |
| 11:18.41 | Nikolay | How can I ensure that internal SD card reader on my laptop works? I put SD card into the reader, but nothing happens (no new dmesg records) :o/ |
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| 11:20.57 | Nikolay | Can anybody help me? |
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| 11:22.08 | azeem | Nikolay: those have not been supported on Linux until very recently |
| 11:22.11 | azeem | if at all |
| 11:22.44 | Kaeles | mmm for some reason my NFS server is timing out when a client asks for the portmap rpc port.... any ideas? |
| 11:23.03 | liable | Nikolay: dous lspci or lsusb show the device (i would guess it prolly shows as a usb dev) |
| 11:23.31 | raavi | Hello, Problem in getting proper screen resolution for Acer Aspire 1640z, using debian etch. |
| 11:24.22 | fm | tijn, why don't use mb2md? |
| 11:24.25 | wireddd | how do I list all of the packages I have installed? |
| 11:24.39 | wireddd | is there a file I cat or something? |
| 11:24.41 | Nikolay | liable: this is not usb device; lspci show the following string: "Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller" |
| 11:24.48 | tijn | mb2mb? |
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| 11:25.01 | fm | google it |
| 11:25.15 | liable | Nikolay: and if you google that line, do you get any promising hits? |
| 11:25.19 | fm | wireddd, dpkg -l ? |
| 11:26.03 | liable | Nikolay: or better, does dmesg mention it? |
| 11:26.21 | fasta | liable: he just said no. |
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| 11:26.46 | tijn | fm: i dont see how that is going to help me |
| 11:27.06 | cydork | raavi, which video card are you using? |
| 11:27.13 | fm | TiffOn, md format means each file for each mail |
| 11:27.17 | fm | sorry |
| 11:27.18 | liable | fasta: he said nothing was shown when he put a card in.. |
| 11:27.20 | fm | tijn, |
| 11:27.31 | tijn | ow wait |
| 11:27.35 | tijn | ye i read |
| 11:27.50 | tijn | i thought mbox and mailbox where the same thing :) |
| 11:27.53 | tijn | thnx, looks great |
| 11:28.08 | fm | welcome |
| 11:28.15 | tijn | going for a smoke now and check it asap :) |
| 11:28.19 | fasta | liable: hmm, right there is a difference. My fault |
| 11:28.31 | raavi | cydork, Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller |
| 11:29.01 | IndyBC | cydork: apt-zip: command not found |
| 11:29.05 | cydork | raavi, check 915resolution |
| 11:29.16 | cydork | IndyBC, check man apt-zip |
| 11:29.28 | raavi | cydork: is that a package or... |
| 11:29.36 | cydork | raavi, yep it's a package. |
| 11:30.04 | raavi | cydork: yes, I have that package now... |
| 11:31.03 | IndyBC | cydork: apt-zip-list, apt-zip-inst - Use apt with removable media |
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| 11:31.33 | raavi | cydork: oops, it does not list my screen resolution...mine is 1280x800 |
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| 11:34.45 | cydork | raavi, do you see a 1280x1024 option ? |
| 11:35.10 | raavi | cydork: yep |
| 11:35.15 | IndyBC | cydork: ok, so, how will I transfer (with apt-zip) all the files needed for build-essential to be installed? |
| 11:35.38 | IndyBC | cydork: First, I will have to download them in my pc, as .deb files. |
| 11:35.44 | raavi | cydork: 915resolution 1280x1024 is the cammand right. |
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| 11:36.03 | IndyBC | cydork: And then, I will transfer them (with a usb flash disk) to the other non-connectable pc. |
| 11:36.15 | IndyBC | cydork: But, how I will get the .deb ? |
| 11:36.23 | cydork | IndyBC, apt-zip-list will creat the nessesory files to get the debs. |
| 11:36.35 | noahslater | Is this a good place to ask about packaging best practices? |
| 11:36.56 | IndyBC | cydork: OK. I would be really grateful, if you could tell me the exact command :-) |
| 11:37.10 | IndyBC | the package I want is: build-essential |
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| 11:37.43 | liable | noahslater: ask and see how you go |
| 11:37.53 | cydork | raavi, 915resolution <mode> 1280 800 i guess but not sure please check the reade me file which come the package.. |
| 11:38.22 | raavi | cydork: you are right, I have done that...any what I have to do after this... |
| 11:39.42 | noahslater | Okay, I am designing some new software and wanted to bulid it as a native debian package. Reading through the pollicy manual (section 9.4) it says that native debian packages are only useful for Debian specific packages. Does this really apply if the maintainer is also the developer, like my self? |
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| 11:40.03 | cydork | raavi, now check if xorg.conf has the same mode which you have set.. if yes restart the x server. |
| 11:40.32 | raavi | cydork: okay |
| 11:40.50 | noahslater | It's worth noting, that it would easily be possible to download the source and install on a non Debian machine. |
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| 11:41.07 | noahslater | All I am really doing is adding a 'debian' directory that *can* be used. |
| 11:41.09 | rascal | Hey guys, I have recently switched from an OpenBSD firewall using PF, to a Linux box hopefully going to use iptables. However i'm having a hard time trying to grasp the concept of iptables and how to achieve anything halfway decent with it.. since my network is slightly complicated, i don't know where to start, I have read over the netfilter / packet filter howtos on netfilter.org and the tutorials in the tutorials section but still no luck.. is there a |
| 11:41.10 | rascal | nyone around who can help me out a little? |
| 11:42.48 | cydork | IndyBC, it will be like apt-zip-list -m /media/whatever --packages=whatever.. |
| 11:43.17 | liable | noahslater: ok, i think that one is prolly better in #debian-mentors on oftc :) |
| 11:43.30 | noahslater | Cheers. |
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| 11:48.01 | liable | rascal: theres an #iptables channel, though i think its a bit slow |
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| 11:48.04 | tralala | rascal: you might try an iptables fontend such as shorewall. It helps you focus on the network infrastructure rather than the firewall rules. |
| 11:48.20 | tralala | make that frontend |
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| 11:48.29 | matholio | is there a simple way to capture or view data coming in on a srial port ? |
| 11:48.34 | rascal | tralala, Yeah i have been looking into the gui tools recently, there is a rather good shorewall tutorial |
| 11:48.39 | rascal | however it doesn't really do what i want. |
| 11:48.53 | rascal | matholio, hrm, there is but i cant recall the name |
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| 11:49.05 | tijn | fm: Works only with imap :( |
| 11:49.13 | tijn | afaik |
| 11:49.32 | tralala | matholio: can you be a little bit more specific? |
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| 11:50.05 | fm | tijn, you got a mbox format mail file, right ? |
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| 11:50.16 | fm | it dosen't matter imap,pop3 etc.. |
| 11:50.23 | tijn | thats the thing iam not sure of |
| 11:50.25 | tijn | it must be |
| 11:50.28 | matholio | I have a device on a serial port and I want to be sure it's sending data. |
| 11:50.33 | tijn | but mb2md says i havent |
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| 11:50.46 | matholio | tail /dev/ttyS1 perhaps ? should that work ? |
| 11:50.53 | tijn | Fatal: Source is not an mbox file or a directory! |
| 11:51.38 | fm | tijn, there are number of script with same name 'mb2md', you may need to try another one |
| 11:52.18 | cydork | matholio, try ttylog |
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| 11:54.21 | tijn | fm, iam first going to find out if i use mbox format |
| 11:54.34 | fm | sound great :) |
| 11:54.40 | fm | sounds* |
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| 11:55.24 | Kaeles | where are iptables config in debian? |
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| 11:56.31 | IndyBC | cydork: thank you very much :-) |
| 11:56.34 | Glanzmann | Hello; |
| 11:56.40 | cydork | Kaeles, what do you want to do exactly? |
| 11:56.46 | fm | Kaeles, checking init script may be helpful |
| 11:56.52 | Kaeles | mmm |
| 11:56.53 | cydork | IndyBC, no prob :) |
| 11:56.55 | raavi | cydork: Thanks buddy, now it rock with new resolution. |
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| 11:56.59 | Glanzmann | Is there a tool under Debian available that you say which programms you want into a 'ramdisk' and copies the dependencies of this programm, too? |
| 11:57.04 | Kaeles | my rpc keeps timing out on a nfs mount |
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| 11:57.23 | Glanzmann | And I don't want the whole ramdisk by debian. Just the programm that copies the programm itself and it's dependencies over. |
| 11:57.29 | raavi | cydork: but still one issue remained is the sound, still no success in getting sound out of my Acer Aspire 1640z |
| 11:57.30 | Glanzmann | I am using debian testing |
| 11:57.48 | cydork | raavi, /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 11:58.31 | raavi | cydork: is that a channel to discuss problems related to alsa or... |
| 11:58.41 | cydork | !alsa one-liner |
| 11:58.41 | dpkg | from memory, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels, or some applications don't know how to talk directly to alsa, so "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and "echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules" to provide the oss compatibility layer |
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| 11:58.57 | IndyBC | cydork: $ sudo apt-zip-list -m /media/usbdisk --packages=build-essential The download size is: 0 |
| 11:59.05 | cydork | raavi, try what dpkg said.. :) |
| 11:59.09 | enerv | somebody all knows a program of backup the system and put in server, and after create one diskete boot? |
| 11:59.15 | IndyBC | cydork: $ sudo apt-zip-list -m /media/usbdisk --packages=build-essential |
| 11:59.21 | IndyBC | The download size is: 0 |
| 11:59.32 | IndyBC | cydork: why? |
| 11:59.47 | raavi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:00.56 | rascal | Anyone in here a iptables guru? |
| 12:02.31 | cydork | IndyBC, might be becasue it's a meta package but not sure |
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| 12:02.41 | IndyBC | cydork: so, what can I do? |
| 12:02.56 | dsl737 | SoundBlaster ISA AWE64 on an old P100. When I try to modprobe sb, I get the error from insmod sb: module_init: No such device, and my keyboard and mouse freezes up. Isapnp reports the card, but this always happens no matter the parameters I pass. Can someone help? |
| 12:03.34 | SlayerXP | dsl737: ISA is evil. throw it away. |
| 12:03.58 | raavi | cydork: not much of help...but still digging that out... |
| 12:04.01 | dsl737 | I`m just trying to ressuscitate it instead of throwing away |
| 12:04.11 | cydork | IndyBC, try adding --aptgetaction=dist-upgrade to that |
| 12:04.17 | Kaeles | I'm trying to mount an NFS mount as root on a pxe booting machine, but the rpc requests time out. |
| 12:04.19 | cydork | raavi, what's the problem? |
| 12:04.20 | IndyBC | cydork: ok :-) |
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| 12:04.55 | IndyBC | $ apt-zip-list -m /media/usbdisk --packages=build-essential --aptgetaction=dist-upgrade |
| 12:04.56 | IndyBC | The download size is: 0 |
| 12:05.04 | raavi | cydork: no sound...its seems xmms is playing media...but no sound out form the speakers...checked alsamixer all volumes are 100% |
| 12:05.07 | IndyBC | cydork: didn't work :( |
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| 12:07.14 | nzk | Can soemone get me unbanned from #ubuntu |
| 12:07.43 | IndyBC | :P |
| 12:07.44 | azeem | nzk: not us |
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| 12:07.56 | cydork | IndyBC, then build-essential is installed :P |
| 12:08.11 | azeem | nzk: contact the #ubuntu chanops or freenode staff |
| 12:08.40 | IndyBC | cydork: I know. It is installed in my pc, but it is not installed in the pc of a friend of mine, who has not got an internet connection, yet. |
| 12:09.18 | IndyBC | cydork: So, I want all the .deb files needed to get build-essential installed, in order to take them to the pc of his friend of mine. |
| 12:09.23 | nzk | I have no idea how to contact ubuntu chanops |
| 12:09.36 | azeem | nzk: sorry, but that is not our problem |
| 12:09.37 | cydork | IndyBC, you are suppose to run apt-zip-list not the machine which does not have the connection i think but just check documention |
| 12:09.43 | amphi | nzk: install debian ;) |
| 12:10.20 | tijn | hehe why are u banned? |
| 12:10.31 | azeem | tijn: please discuss this in private |
| 12:10.38 | tijn | ok ok sry :) |
| 12:10.38 | nzk | Its not me its the whole provider |
| 12:10.48 | nzk | My stupid neighbors were spamming it |
| 12:10.52 | cydork | s/not/on/ :) |
| 12:11.20 | IndyBC | cydork: The command apt-zip-list can run in a machine without internet connection? |
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| 12:12.20 | IndyBC | cydork: My purpose, is to download from here, all the files needed to get build-essential and its dependencies and their dependencies, etc, in a .deb format, in order to transfer them to a pc without internet connection. |
| 12:12.26 | cydork | IndyBC, afaik yes, coz it just creates a sript to download packages. |
| 12:12.36 | tralala | IndyBC: they should be either there or in the current dir |
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| 12:13.33 | IndyBC | cydork: Should I remove build-essential, and run apt-zip-list in order to get the list, then get the .deb files, and then install build-essential again? |
| 12:13.47 | IndyBC | (in my pc) |
| 12:13.50 | tralala | IndyBC: in case you have a problem finding them among the others try ordering them by date with 'ls -rt' |
| 12:13.59 | enerv | somebody all knows a program of backup the system and put in server, and after create one diskete boot? |
| 12:14.01 | azeem | nzk: I contacted one of their chanops, and he confirmed you were banned for your for yourself, not for your neighbors |
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| 12:14.24 | IndyBC | tralala: in /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
| 12:14.25 | nzk | azeem: they were pretending to be me |
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| 12:14.36 | JMT | Is the same problem now with debian unstable with x than it be yesterday in ubuntu? |
| 12:14.42 | nzk | Like using my ip and everything |
| 12:14.44 | tralala | IndyBC: yes, assuming that they were downloaded there |
| 12:14.51 | nzk | Becuase they were leeching off my wifi |
| 12:14.54 | azeem | nzk: too bad |
| 12:15.13 | azeem | nzk: take this off this channel, this is off-topic here |
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| 12:15.22 | IndyBC | tralala: there, are all the .deb that my machine has used, or just the recent ones? |
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| 12:16.01 | tralala | IndyBC: there is everything downloaded by apt-get from the last cleanup |
| 12:16.20 | IndyBC | I don't remember I have ever cleaned up. |
| 12:16.36 | IndyBC | tralala: But there, is not a file named like "build-essential". |
| 12:17.15 | IndyBC | tralala: If I get all this .deb files on my friend's machine, do you believe that we can install build-essential there? |
| 12:17.18 | tralala | IndyBC: did you order them by date? Do it and check the end of the list |
| 12:17.33 | IndyBC | tralala: how do I order them by data? |
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| 12:17.51 | IndyBC | tralala: (I have installed build-essential months ago) |
| 12:18.13 | tralala | IndyBC: with the command I gave you very recently |
| 12:18.15 | IndyBC | tralala: Yes, I ordered them by date. |
| 12:18.42 | IndyBC | tralala: But I cannot find the name "build-essential" among tose files. |
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| 12:19.16 | tralala | IndyBC: did you install the build-essential package from the net or from a cd? |
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| 12:19.27 | IndyBC | from the net |
| 12:19.52 | tralala | IndyBC: try ls build* |
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| 12:20.34 | IndyBC | tralala: I just removed and installed again buld-essential. |
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| 12:21.14 | tralala | IndyBC: that wasn't really needed but since you've done it, it's ok |
| 12:21.46 | tralala | IndyBC: btw apt-zip is really a better way to deal with offline machines |
| 12:21.56 | nzk | How do I connect to another server |
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| 12:22.32 | Ronin | nzk: server for what |
| 12:22.32 | tralala | nzk: is this a neighbour of yours asking off-topic quesions again? |
| 12:23.02 | nzk | Hey neighbor get off. Yes neighbor im talking to you |
| 12:23.36 | tralala | nzk: I have the feeling that very soon you're neighbours will win you a ban here as well. |
| 12:23.56 | nzk | Umm |
| 12:24.09 | tralala | your even |
| 12:24.17 | row | haha |
| 12:24.21 | IndyBC | tralala: So. Tell me what you recommend me to do, in order to install build-essential in the offline machine. |
| 12:24.30 | IndyBC | tralala: Should I transfer all of my cache? |
| 12:25.15 | tralala | IndyBC: download the apt-zip package, install it on the offline machine, read the manual and follow the instructions there. It's really simple. |
| 12:25.31 | IndyBC | tralala: ok |
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| 12:26.44 | ootput | is there a tool that's similar to htop, but for network traffic? |
| 12:27.00 | nvz | htop is great. |
| 12:27.06 | nvz | my guess would be ntop :P |
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| 12:27.26 | nvz | !info ntop |
| 12:27.36 | dpkg | ntop: (display network usage in top-like format), section net, is optional. Version: 3:3.2-5 (sid), Packaged size: 2665 kB, Installed size: 10804 kB |
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| 12:31.19 | usr13 | I'm trying upgrade openoffice 1.1.3 to version 2.0.3 and encountering problems. Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146204 |
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| 12:32.10 | usr13 | "Some packages could not be installed." |
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| 12:34.01 | azeem | usr13: add contrib to your sources.list |
| 12:34.04 | azeem | !contrib |
| 12:34.04 | dpkg | it has been said that contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
| 12:34.24 | ootput | nvz: ah, right, that's logical |
| 12:35.38 | Nikolay | liable, according with your recomendation I surf web about lspci output like my own. I find out that linux 2.6.17 may be has support of my card-reader into module sdhci. But this experimental module is not compiled by default. Now I try to build the kernel from source and check if my card-reader will be supported. |
| 12:35.56 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.06 | usr13 | Is there another I need to add? |
| 12:36.40 | finrod | You need to add contrib non-free to the standard debian mirror line, not just to backports. |
| 12:37.03 | liable | Nikolay: cool |
| 12:37.20 | usr13 | (I followed instructions: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ) |
| 12:37.43 | liable | usr13: installing java didnt help? |
| 12:37.50 | azeem | usr13: add it to the regular sarge deb line |
| 12:37.56 | stew | i remember rene saying something to the effect that the java parts of oppenoffice might not be installable as a backport, but i dont' remember the specifics |
| 12:37.58 | azeem | it == contrib |
| 12:38.07 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.28 | azeem | usr13: did you read what dpkg said above? |
| 12:38.34 | usr13 | or tell me where to find instructions for the new line? |
| 12:38.42 | syntaxx | how to add memtest on grub? |
| 12:38.44 | azeem | usr13: /msg dpkg contrib |
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| 12:39.07 | liable | syntaxx: just install it, it should do it for you |
| 12:39.15 | usr13 | the bot is not working for me |
| 12:39.34 | syntaxx | liable, ok memtest86+? |
| 12:39.35 | Ronin | usr13: its working |
| 12:39.40 | azeem | usr13: then just read what it said above |
| 12:39.41 | liable | syntaxx: yep |
| 12:39.51 | azeem | 14:26 < dpkg> it has been said that contrib is [...] |
| 12:40.18 | syntaxx | liable, ok i already installed memtest86+ but i dont see any update grub |
| 12:40.46 | usr13 | I typed in "/msg dpkg contrib" and nothing happened. |
| 12:40.49 | liable | syntaxx: its not in menu.lst? |
| 12:40.58 | syntaxx | liable, yeah |
| 12:41.06 | RvGaTe | Is sid going to support dual screen? |
| 12:41.10 | Ronin | !tell usr13 about contrib |
| 12:41.10 | syntaxx | liable, but i did update-grub /dev/hda |
| 12:41.13 | liable | yeah, it is, or yeah, its not? |
| 12:41.29 | syntaxx | liable, yea its not in the menu.lst |
| 12:41.39 | Ronin | usr13: its in either a new window, your status window or you client is blocking, in either case scroll up to where azeem said |
| 12:42.03 | liable | syntaxx: hrm, last time i installed it, it did it for me. |
| 12:42.07 | syntaxx | liable, by the way after booting choosing memtest how will i know if my ram is good? |
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| 12:42.41 | liable | syntaxx: just let it run overnight, if it doesnt show faults, then your good |
| 12:43.02 | usr13 | I found dpkg msgs, on another window. Thanks |
| 12:43.06 | syntaxx | liable, ok thanks |
| 12:43.23 | liable | syntaxx: check /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/ |
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| 12:47.32 | nvz | RvGaTe: what? |
| 12:48.17 | nvz | RvGaTe: woody supported dual screens 4 years ago its called xinerama |
| 12:48.27 | RvGaTe | nvz, hmz.. :P oops |
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| 12:49.03 | nvz | thats for X anyhow.. but I tried it on an Nvidia FX5200Ultra with dual ports.. worked well in most cases |
| 12:49.26 | nvz | some apps particularly fullscreen ones need to be aware of xinerama and not all of them are |
| 12:50.14 | nvz | it was dead simple to setup too. |
| 12:51.01 | nvz | I am not sure what all may be involved with two cards perhaps that are different but a dual head card from nvidia was easy to get going |
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| 12:53.40 | usr13 | I've added 'non-free contrib' to the end of lines in contrib as instructed but still same problems. Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146225 |
| 12:53.58 | nvz | usr13: did you update your cache after saving the file? |
| 12:54.21 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.26 | nvz | apt-get update |
| 12:54.34 | usr13 | Tnx |
| 12:55.02 | nvz | the sources.list is only read when you update the cache. apt reads the package cache for fetching packages and resolving dependencies |
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| 12:55.55 | nvz | it would be a horrible waste of the server's bandwidth and make the whole process slower on you if it read that file and scanned the servers every time |
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| 12:56.57 | usr13 | I did apt-get update and seems to have worked, partially, but returned some errors. Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146228 |
| 12:57.20 | azeem | usr13: that's unrelated |
| 12:57.31 | usr13 | Ok, thanks |
| 12:57.50 | Ronin | and iirc correctly usr13 the fix for public key is in the channel topic |
| 12:58.17 | azeem | it's for debian-multimedia |
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| 12:58.47 | usr13 | Ok, tried again to upgrade OpenOffice 1.1.3 to 2.0.3, but encountered error: The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 12:58.51 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.04 | azeem | try to install that then |
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| 12:59.21 | azeem | until you get to the root reason |
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| 13:00.33 | usr13 | I tried to install dependency openoffice.org-base but encountered error. Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146233 |
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| 13:00.55 | Rhaven | moin |
| 13:01.00 | azeem | usr13: at this point, you need to install java yourself |
| 13:01.03 | azeem | !install java |
| 13:01.03 | dpkg | [install java] First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
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| 13:03.27 | usr13 | I issued command "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" but encountered error. Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146236 |
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| 13:08.13 | k-man | are the matrox g400 x drivers open or closed? |
| 13:08.57 | azeem | usr13: sarge does not have java-virtual-machine, you need to build/install java via java-package |
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| 13:10.14 | junix|work | how do i force the install of boson? |
| 13:10.32 | abrotman | k-man: open .. mostly |
| 13:10.36 | nvz | why is it failing to install cleanly |
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| 13:11.05 | abrotman | k-man: the major parts most need are open .. there is some special tool for something that is closed |
| 13:11.05 | nvz | forced entry usually ends up in broken stuff, and occationally lawsuits and jail time :P |
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| 13:11.11 | nvz | in general its not a good idea |
| 13:11.23 | k-man | abrotman, ok, thanks :) |
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| 13:14.25 | freegan-bh | Trying to install Soundblaster awe64 ISA on a P100. When the sb module loads, isapnp detects it, but insmod says No such device, and it locks up my keyboard and mouse and I have to reset. Help anyone? |
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| 13:16.20 | raghu206 | where can i find repositories |
| 13:16.33 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 13:16.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup if you are running sarge, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror, or ask me about <apt-spy> |
| 13:16.46 | ktwilight | i have a bash script which i cant execute (bash: ./permissions.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied) . i've chmod a+x the file, and checked the file permissions of /bin/sh, and nothing wrong there. what other things i should check for? |
| 13:17.14 | jelly | ktwilight: script located on a fs mounted with noexec? |
| 13:17.16 | ktwilight | i tried executing as root as well, nothing |
| 13:17.29 | abrotman | what's the first line? |
| 13:17.48 | ktwilight | its mounted without noexec |
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| 13:18.07 | ktwilight | first line is #!/bin/sh |
| 13:18.36 | abrotman | this is sarge? |
| 13:18.42 | ktwilight | etch |
| 13:18.50 | jelly | ktwilight: did you ftp it? check for \r\n (CRLF) at the end of the line instead of just \n (LF) |
| 13:18.56 | freegan-bh | No one? |
| 13:18.59 | ktwilight | no ftp |
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| 13:19.24 | afed | internet relay debians |
| 13:19.41 | ktwilight | it was mounted with user, then i removed it in fstab, would i need to remount it? |
| 13:20.04 | ktwilight | kinda doubt that's the problem though |
| 13:20.22 | abrotman | freegan-bh: are you sure it's ISAPnP? |
| 13:20.26 | jelly | ktwilight: probably not, I'd bet on CRLF or other invisible junk after #!/bin/sh |
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| 13:21.03 | ktwilight | lemme double check |
| 13:21.30 | ktwilight | no space after it, but i just tried copying it to /root and execute it there as root, and it works |
| 13:21.35 | ktwilight | so its the mounting issue |
| 13:21.37 | ktwilight | gonna try it now |
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| 13:22.02 | freegan-bh | abrotman: Yes it is, on bootup ISAPNP detects it correctly also |
| 13:22.16 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.30 | azeem | usr13: /msg dpkg install java |
| 13:22.36 | azeem | it mentions that towards the end |
| 13:22.47 | abrotman | freegan-bh: did you do the isapnpdump magic ? |
| 13:22.49 | fasta | Is there an interactive postscript interpreter in Debian somewhere? |
| 13:22.53 | zm0 | freegan-bh: you could try disabling 'Plug & Play OS' in your bios |
| 13:23.02 | freegan-bh | abrotman: tried another isa card also, a sb16, same problem. And its not the isa slot, because an isa ne2000 card is working there. |
| 13:23.12 | jharrisonwk | isa? |
| 13:23.33 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: the thick black slots |
| 13:23.35 | jelly | freegan-bh: did you configure isapnp, or are you relying on kernel? |
| 13:23.40 | azeem | jharrisonwk: that was before vesa local bus |
| 13:24.13 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: yes I know about isa but im saying I have forgotten them because they are no longer on any modern motherboards |
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| 13:24.31 | freegan-bh | jelly: I tried the pnpdump > isapnp.conf method, uncommenting, etc. No good. Still locks up on the same place, with insmod sb |
| 13:24.45 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: how could you forget? .. all those hours playing with jumpers and dipswitches .. you're no geek |
| 13:24.54 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: :-P |
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| 13:25.04 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: ISA boy |
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| 13:26.54 | googlah | im gettin tired of this |
| 13:26.59 | usr13 | Ok, I think I got it. |
| 13:27.13 | googlah | i wanna make bootfloppy.img ---> /dev/fd0 |
| 13:27.39 | newsagg | which is the preferred news aggregator program in debian? |
| 13:27.46 | jharrisonwk | googlah: google? |
| 13:27.51 | freegan-bh | abrotman: Even tried changing the /proc/isapnp directly, to detect different settings, which it did, but locked up with the same error |
| 13:27.55 | usr13 | I ran "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb" as user and then "dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update08_i386.deb" as root. |
| 13:28.11 | googlah | jharrisonwk: i dunno what im supposed to ask google |
| 13:28.21 | xinming | Is there a way to install vmware in debian way? |
| 13:28.24 | abrotman | freegan-bh: just use a pci sound card like god intended :) |
| 13:28.31 | xinming | Or I have to download package myself. |
| 13:28.46 | jharrisonwk | googlah: I was just wondering cause you seem to be the googler or googlah so to speak |
| 13:28.56 | googlah | lol |
| 13:28.58 | abrotman | freegan-bh: isapnp is very very hard .. you may need to reserve the irq in the bios .. all kinds of goofy stuff/tricks |
| 13:29.09 | googlah | you're right jharrisonwk |
| 13:29.09 | jharrisonwk | ew isa? |
| 13:29.23 | usr13 | It appears to be working now. "apt-get install -t sarge-backports openoffice.org" |
| 13:29.26 | usr13 | :) |
| 13:29.38 | newsagg | is tin a news aggregator? |
| 13:29.48 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: if I showed you a motherboard with pci-x or pci-e or even just plain pci I bet you would be like "WWWWWOOOOOOWWWWWW" |
| 13:30.09 | googlah | anyone know what command to make bootfloppy.img ---> /dev/fd0, any help is appreciated .. |
| 13:30.18 | freegan-bh | abrotman: looked for it but didn't see any ISA specific reserves for ISA, only pcis. And none is reserving the soundcard irq. |
| 13:30.37 | cydork | googlah, ever heard of dd :) |
| 13:30.45 | freegan-bh | abrotman: ah yes, and its not the irq because the ne2000 used that same irq when I tried |
| 13:31.05 | jelly | newsagg: no, tin's a usenet client |
| 13:31.13 | googlah | cydork, yeah i have but nothing happens! |
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| 13:31.26 | newsagg | jelly: u know of any? |
| 13:31.49 | jelly | newsagg: I don't. |
| 13:31.51 | googlah | whats the complete command im supposed to use cydork? |
| 13:32.44 | cydork | googlah, /msg dpkg dd |
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| 13:33.10 | lastnode | do the default kernels on etch come with broadcom 43xx support compiled in? |
| 13:33.16 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: why do you think i haven't seen one? |
| 13:33.40 | jelly | freegan-bh: dunno, I'd maybe let pnpdump configure (uncomment) the card itself with pnpdump -rc > isapnp.conf, maybe it's smarter. ;-) |
| 13:33.41 | abrotman | freegan-bh: you can still hold back the IRQ .. and NICs and sound cards don't normally use the same irq |
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| 13:34.50 | jelly | abrotman: no two isa cards use the same irq, even |
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| 13:35.00 | freegan-bh | abrotman: I was looking for changing jumpers on the card, but can't find the jumper configs |
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| 13:36.01 | jelly | freegan-bh: does modinfo sb report any potentially useful options for the module? |
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| 13:37.33 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: im just kidding with you |
| 13:37.34 | abhinay | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.37 | freegan-bh | jelly: I'll check, but I can tell you this, I passed a lot of options, and isapnp seemed to override them everytime, until I directly edit /proc/isapnp and removed the first preferred config, then it detected the alternates, but still no good |
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| 13:37.58 | loevborg_ | Q: Mounting a local nfs share (from a debian server) takes a long time, but eventually works. Any idea what might cause the hold-up? |
| 13:38.20 | ootput | can any of you recommend an ncurses id3v2 tag editor? |
| 13:38.25 | abhinay | hi there |
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| 13:38.56 | abhinay | from where, could i get debian repos ? |
| 13:38.57 | freegan-bh | jelly: generally is modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 |
| 13:39.02 | jelly | ... freegan-bh hmm. Remove isapnp support from kernel and do everything with isapnp/pnpdump utilities? |
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| 13:39.23 | Daemoen | hello all |
| 13:39.23 | freegan-bh | jelly: you mean to recompile the kernel? |
| 13:39.36 | ootput | abhinay: online? |
| 13:39.53 | chris_abyi | hey.. got some question about grub: I got linux and windows xp pro installed here and accidently deleted my windows entry in the menu.lst of grub. how-to get it in there again? no .old file available? |
| 13:39.59 | jelly | freegan-bh: yep. maybe rmmoding and blacklisting the module would work, but I'm skeptical. |
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| 13:40.31 | abhinay | ootput, Yes |
| 13:40.31 | Daemoen | any documentation on the easiest method of taking debian sarge to the latest 2.6 kernel, kde 3.5, gnome 2.10? |
| 13:40.38 | tralala | chris_abyi: you can recreate it manually by editing the menu.list file |
| 13:40.42 | ootput | abhinay: http://www.apt-get.org/main/ |
| 13:40.48 | ootput | abhinay: but please don't abuse it too often |
| 13:41.04 | tralala | Daemoen: /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:41.14 | freegan-bh | jelly: can't recompile, its in a very small hd. ill try blacklisting |
| 13:41.16 | jelly | freegan-bh: use a faster machine to compile it. ;-) |
| 13:41.44 | jelly | no need to compile a kernel on the same machine that will use it. |
| 13:41.49 | freegan-bh | jelly: but it seems to me that insmod that do the lock up, not isapnp |
| 13:41.52 | newsagg | there is Gnome-based Straw but it is not in Debian. |
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| 13:42.18 | Videnius | Hmm..... http://www.freenigma.com/ |
| 13:42.19 | chris_abyi | tralala: is there also a way to regenerate it automatically? |
| 13:42.34 | abhinay | ootput, abuse ? |
| 13:43.00 | freegan-bh | jelly: The computer does not locks up, only input devices (keyb, mouse) |
| 13:43.04 | cydork | ootput, why are you giving unofficial repos?? |
| 13:43.09 | azeem | abhinay: packages from apt-get.org are not known to work |
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| 13:43.17 | azeem | abhinay: so install at your own risk |
| 13:43.20 | jelly | freegan-bh: it probably locks up in module's initialization routines, and maybe the module uses kernel's isapnp support when it's available |
| 13:43.22 | psi | what happened to the package xephem? it seems to have disappeared from unstable. |
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| 13:44.00 | ootput | cydork: who the hell knows what he asked for |
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| 13:44.03 | jelly | freegan-bh: can you access it over the net after that? |
| 13:44.10 | ootput | cydork: fairly broad question |
| 13:44.16 | tralala | chris_abyi: eh? |
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| 13:44.39 | abhinay | azeem, ok, debian doesn't have official repos ? |
| 13:44.43 | freegan-bh | jelly: didn't try. but I still get some console messages after the lock |
| 13:44.54 | ktwilight | its was the noexec umount mount issue :/ |
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| 13:45.04 | azeem | !dbugs 270695 |
| 13:45.07 | chris_abyi | tralala: to regenerate the menu.list automatically, or to let grub create all the entries automatically again..detect all oss'es etc. |
| 13:45.08 | dpkg | DONE:#270695:N[ftp.debian.org] Please remove xephem from sid; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:33:05 UTC |
| 13:45.11 | azeem | psi: ^^ |
| 13:45.17 | ktwilight | i thought fstab is real time |
| 13:45.28 | azeem | abhinay: sure it has |
| 13:45.32 | psi | azeem: thanks |
| 13:45.35 | azeem | abhinay: you are likely using them already |
| 13:45.36 | freegan-bh | jelly: if I access it over net, what would I do? |
| 13:46.04 | RvGaTe | Is there an step-by-step tutorial on how to setup a domain controller with debian? |
| 13:46.23 | jelly | freegan-bh: you could maybe play more with it, see whether insmod suceeded and if sound works (even if keyb/mouse don't). |
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| 13:46.31 | tralala | chris_abyi: not that I'm aware of |
| 13:46.42 | abhinay | azeem, ok thanks |
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| 13:47.13 | chris_abyi | tralala: okay, thanks :) |
| 13:47.57 | tralala | chris_abyi: you're welcome |
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| 13:50.59 | ootput | is it possible to specify encoder flags for rips with bashburn? |
| 13:51.01 | chris_abyi | okay..got another question: I just bought an 250gig sata-externel hd, connected via usb2 and now want to mount it to my debian 2.6.8-11 and make a fat partition on it. How-to achieve this? |
| 13:51.39 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:51.39 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:51.45 | chris_abyi | ah okay.. guess I found it already. |
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| 13:54.06 | row | how can I force the upgrade of a package? |
| 13:54.21 | stew | row: apt-get install packagename |
| 13:54.51 | row | ah |
| 13:55.10 | row | also how can I display the reasonf or it being held |
| 13:55.13 | row | ? |
| 13:55.42 | stew | row: if its held, its becuase someone request it be held (/msg dpkg hold), if its kept back, /msg dpkg kept back |
| 13:56.06 | row | yeah sorry kept back |
| 13:56.40 | abrotman | jelly: no .. i mean .. normally .. sound is on 5 and nic is on 9 |
| 13:57.43 | row | thanks for that info btw stew |
| 13:57.44 | row | :) |
| 13:57.53 | newsagg | any user of feeds.reddit here? |
| 13:58.11 | nvz | maybe usb controller is on 5 and sound is on 12 and nic is on 11 |
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| 14:02.15 | chris_abyi | hmm..how do I create a new fat-partition on my 0-formatted hd? |
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| 14:04.16 | abrotman | mkfs.vfat |
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| 14:05.33 | mosgreg | is there any software in debian that handles (usb)scanners? |
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| 14:06.01 | mosgreg | or do I need anything special to do to makr it work? some kernel modules or something? |
| 14:06.04 | chris_abyi | thanks, abrotman |
| 14:06.49 | abrotman | mosgreg: probably be in the scanner group or something .. and then plug it in ? |
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| 14:08.34 | mosgreg | abrotman: well, for testing reason I started xsane as root (kdesu xsane) .. it didnt find any devices |
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| 14:08.56 | abrotman | mosgreg: does dmesg say anything when you plug it in >? |
| 14:09.13 | cydork | mosgreg, or try lsusb too.. |
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| 14:09.17 | mosgreg | well, my scanner is a printer/scanner. it handels both |
| 14:09.33 | ootput | for those of you using slrn, is there a way to set a sane limit for the number of messages to view of an already-read spool? |
| 14:10.08 | mosgreg | drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x263C |
| 14:10.08 | mosgreg | usbcore: registered new driver usblp |
| 14:10.08 | mosgreg | drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver |
| 14:10.11 | ootput | rather than the default of the total number of articles in the spool? |
| 14:10.12 | mosgreg | it is all it says |
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| 14:11.35 | chris_alt | "mkfs.vfat: Will not trymkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdc' (use -I if wanted)" |
| 14:11.39 | chris_alt | what did I wrong? |
| 14:11.55 | chris_alt | just typed "mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc" |
| 14:12.15 | azeem | chris_alt: you make file systems on partitions, not hard disks |
| 14:12.21 | azeem | so probably you mean /dev/sdc1 |
| 14:12.49 | chris_alt | is fdisk the bet program to create a new partition? |
| 14:13.31 | azeem | cfdisk or parted work as well |
| 14:13.49 | ootput | chris_alt: it does the job, but it's not particularly user-friendly |
| 14:13.58 | usr13 | Are there things that should be changed in my /etc/apt/sources.list file? Please see: http://pastebin.ca/146307 |
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| 14:14.22 | chris_alt | okay.. hmm.I created 1 250gb parition and tried to apply vfat on it - it seems to be too large. Is "vfat" the wrong one? |
| 14:14.39 | ootput | chris_alt: but you should get acquainted with it should you need to use it during during system rescues |
| 14:14.53 | azeem | usr13: remove contrib non-free from the debian-multimedia deb source would be my guess |
| 14:15.12 | ootput | chris_alt: could be right, could be wrong.. what will you be using it for? |
| 14:15.48 | chris_alt | ootput: i want to use itfor a share between my win and debian. I also did this with a local harddisk, but from the debian installer. |
| 14:16.06 | ootput | chris_alt: if it's just for cross-compatibility with Windows, you could use ext3, and ifs(something) in Windows to r/w to ext3 partitions |
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| 14:16.21 | ootput | chris_alt: 250gb is a lot to entrust to fat ;) |
| 14:16.28 | ootput | i'm not even sure if it's allowed |
| 14:16.50 | chris_alt | ootput: I don't know, too. Tell me another fs suitable to windows and linux |
| 14:16.51 | chris_alt | :) |
| 14:16.52 | tuxedup | For a machine with a Via c3 1.2GHz processor, what would be the idea kernel-image to use, 386, 486, 686 or just the non optimised kernel? |
| 14:17.03 | chris_alt | in other cases, I would probably do another partition.. |
| 14:17.08 | tralala | it was recently discussed here that fat32 can address some TB of diskspace |
| 14:17.14 | mosgreg | sane-find-scanner: says that: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9, product=0x263c) at libusb:001:002 |
| 14:17.16 | ootput | chris_alt: you'd need something like http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html for windows |
| 14:17.21 | afed | are you actually CRYING, vash the stampede? |
| 14:17.28 | ootput | chris_alt: i mentioned ext3 |
| 14:17.36 | Daemoen | for the number of people I would expect to want kde3.5 and gnome 2.10 or better... the documentation on backports is.... dismal |
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| 14:18.30 | tralala | Daemoen: there isn't much that you need to use the backports and it's all there |
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| 14:19.03 | chris_alt | hym.. currently I got a 150gig parition working with fat and it works fine. |
| 14:19.04 | chris_alt | .. |
| 14:19.07 | chris_alt | strange.. I know. |
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| 14:20.42 | afed | fat |
| 14:21.00 | chris_alt | ? |
| 14:21.05 | dbe | How do I configure Linux with a CLI menu rather then menuconfig? |
| 14:21.15 | afed | config? |
| 14:21.17 | ootput | make config |
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| 14:21.38 | ootput | dbe: i hope you have the patience for that |
| 14:21.44 | dbe | There is a way to do it with menus that I can use the arrows for and sellect. |
| 14:22.07 | usr13 | W: GPG error: http://debian-multimedia.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 14:22.08 | azeem | that sounds like menuconfig |
| 14:22.15 | dbe | azeem, I think it is =). |
| 14:22.22 | usr13 | What should a do about this? ^ |
| 14:22.38 | azeem | usr13: probably there are instructions about this on www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 14:22.53 | usr13 | ok |
| 14:22.58 | azeem | usr13: it's just a warning anyway apparently |
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| 14:25.16 | nvz | ahh molten cheese burns.. |
| 14:25.53 | ootput | if it's hot enough |
| 14:26.13 | nvz | its hot enough |
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| 14:27.06 | nvz | thats what I get for using extra cheese |
| 14:27.14 | ootput | wait, was that an 'argh!' as in burnt cheese, or an 'ahh' as in sore pallet |
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| 14:27.28 | Ronin | nvz: or not being patient and waiting for it to cool down a bit |
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| 14:27.48 | nvz | It got on my fingers not my tounge.. squirted out when I cut it |
| 14:27.52 | ootput | nvz: nachos? |
| 14:28.15 | nvz | na grilled sandwitch to go with my soup |
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| 14:28.18 | Doat | i get this when i try to modprobe fgrlx: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7-smp/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Invalid module format |
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| 14:30.18 | usr13 | what do I do about this?: "W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907" |
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| 14:30.52 | Blackhold | hello |
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| 14:31.02 | cydork | usr13, check faq on debian-multimedia.org |
| 14:31.06 | Blackhold | sometimes someone has used hula-project? |
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| 14:31.14 | yeager | wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
| 14:31.23 | tuxedup | usr13: are you using 386 kernel? |
| 14:32.03 | usr13 | Linux debian 2.6.8-3-686 #1 Sat Jul 15 10:32:25 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:32.45 | usr13 | tuxedup 686 |
| 14:33.55 | mosgreg | wenn ich insmod scanner.o vendor=0xXXXX product=0xYYYY machen will, von wo aus muss ich das machen ? als root in der shell einfach? oder muss ich datei irgendwas besonderes beachten? der sagt mir nämlich scanner.o existiert nicht |
| 14:34.09 | nvz | mosgreg: #debian.de |
| 14:34.13 | cydork | usr13, it has nothing do with your kernel. just check the freekin faq :P |
| 14:34.21 | mosgreg | nvz: sry I forgot lol |
| 14:34.32 | tuxedup | usr13: in terminal as root, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys <pubkey> thengpg --armor --export <pubkey> | apt-key add |
| 14:34.41 | nvz | yeah well I forgot how to speak german :P |
| 14:35.07 | mosgreg | If I want to do that: insmod scanner.o vendor=0xXXXX product=0xYYYY do I need to do somehting special? it says scanner.o not found. |
| 14:35.14 | abrotman | use modprobe |
| 14:35.20 | abrotman | which kernel? |
| 14:35.24 | tuxedup | usr13: the replace pubkey with the public key the error message says its missing |
| 14:35.29 | nvz | who uses insmod :P |
| 14:35.33 | mosgreg | FATAL: Module scanner.o not found :) |
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| 14:36.25 | nvz | some other things you might be interested in.. hitler lost, its 2006.. the devil is president of the USA |
| 14:36.42 | mosgreg | hehe |
| 14:36.51 | mosgreg | hitler lost? says who? :) |
| 14:37.14 | nvz | oh and we dont use insmod anymore |
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| 14:38.29 | nvz | well he's dead and there are tall skinny red haired chinese-american-africans running around |
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| 14:38.57 | abrotman | mosgreg: which damn kernel |
| 14:39.07 | mosgreg | 2.6.17 |
| 14:39.22 | azeem | mosgreg: try modprobe scanner |
| 14:39.44 | mosgreg | same |
| 14:39.47 | abrotman | mosgreg: try modprobe scanner |
| 14:39.48 | abrotman | doh |
| 14:39.52 | azeem | mosgreg: same what? |
| 14:40.02 | mosgreg | FATAL: Module scanner not found. |
| 14:40.08 | azeem | mosgreg: did you compile that kernel yourselfß |
| 14:40.09 | azeem | ? |
| 14:40.19 | mosgreg | no, standard debian kernel |
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| 14:40.30 | abrotman | !find scanner.ko sid |
| 14:40.30 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:40.42 | abrotman | thingfish:go to work! |
| 14:40.58 | thingfish | abrotman: not for another 20 minutes! |
| 14:41.01 | thingfish | hehe |
| 14:41.03 | abrotman | !apt-key D1F41B907 |
| 14:41.03 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys D1F41B907 ; gpg --export D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 14:41.07 | thingfish | oh I mean 40. |
| 14:41.34 | nvz | heh. my cat was rolling around in a coat and fell off the end table.. it was hilarious :P |
| 14:41.47 | nvz | she jumped back up real fast to make it look like nothing happened |
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| 14:45.21 | usr13 | Was this for me up there?: "< dpkg> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys D1F41B907 ;....." |
| 14:45.29 | tuxedup | usr13: do what was just put above, just remove the sudo part if you have not set up sudo yet and keep it as | apt-key add |
| 14:45.41 | usr13 | ok |
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| 14:47.03 | usr13 | Error: "gpg: "D1F41B907" not a key ID: skipping" |
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| 14:49.49 | cydork | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 14:49.49 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 14:50.03 | cydork | usr13, try ^^ |
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| 14:52.18 | usr13 | "cap is not in the sudoers file." How do I add cap to sudoers file? |
| 14:52.47 | azeem | usr13: is cap your username? |
| 14:52.50 | usr13 | I konw to do visudo as root, but, what line do I add and where? |
| 14:52.53 | stew | usr13: with visudo, "man 5 sudoers" |
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| 14:53.35 | MASTER-PIGEON | hello all |
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| 14:57.20 | abrotman | cydork: thanks .. grabbed too many chars :) |
| 14:57.28 | DonLemmi | Hi, can anyone here please tell me how to autoload a module in sarge at boot time? |
| 14:57.40 | DonLemmi | modules.autoload.d is not there in /etc |
| 14:57.53 | DonLemmi | nor is /etc/sysconfig/modules |
| 14:57.58 | abrotman | put it in /etc/modules |
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| 14:58.16 | DonLemmi | abrotman, simply the name? |
| 14:58.21 | DonLemmi | like ip2200 |
| 14:58.22 | cydork | abrotman, huh?? |
| 14:58.27 | abrotman | DonLemmi: yes |
| 14:58.30 | DonLemmi | k thx |
| 14:58.32 | abrotman | cydork: nm |
| 14:58.37 | _rynz- | <goldfish> hi, can someone tell me how to install "LiNUcKZ" on my wind0z3 b0x plz |
| 14:58.38 | _rynz- | wtf |
| 14:58.49 | Ronin | heh |
| 14:58.51 | abrotman | wrong channel ? |
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| 14:59.20 | DonLemmi | abrotman, look promising |
| 14:59.21 | DonLemmi | thx |
| 14:59.28 | abrotman | DonLemmi: enjoy |
| 15:00.07 | rhsanborn | I just installed a default desktop install on Debian with Gnome...I use a laptop that I dock while in the office. Can this handle two different default system resolutions? |
| 15:00.26 | rhsanborn | abrotman Upgrading to Etch solved my X windows problem btw, thanks |
| 15:00.32 | abrotman | yay! |
| 15:00.37 | abrotman | S3 card right? |
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| 15:01.00 | rhsanborn | abrotman aye |
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| 15:01.09 | abrotman | as long as it works :) |
| 15:01.34 | abrotman | you can use xrandr to change resolutions |
| 15:02.00 | Cybodog | trying to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and am running md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >| /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum but still getting xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been |
| 15:02.00 | Cybodog | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.16 | Cybodog | so, what has changed? |
| 15:02.47 | Cybodog | what do I need to do to get dpkg to change xorg? |
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| 15:03.20 | rhsanborn | Heh...I finally have my Linux desktop back...the feel is so much better...yay :P |
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| 15:03.58 | freegan-bh | abrotman: you recommended removing isapnp support from kernel right? |
| 15:04.01 | guiss | Hi, I am trying to make a backport for postgresql-8.1 in amd64, while trying to make the package using pbuilder, I get this error: "dh_clean: Sorry, but 4 is the highest compatibility level of debhelper currently supported." What does it mean? I've been googling around and I can't find anything |
| 15:04.22 | azeem | guiss: it means you need to backport debhelper as well |
| 15:04.29 | azeem | or install a debhelper backport |
| 15:04.44 | abrotman | freegan-bh: i didn't say that .. i said isapnp is a royal pain in the ass |
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| 15:05.00 | abrotman | freegan-bh: i have gotten it to work .. but it's hard |
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| 15:05.18 | usr13 | I am running KDE and I now find that the "K-menu" is abreviated. There is no longer the long list of applications. |
| 15:05.19 | abrotman | it was easier when i had a machine full of ISA crap :) |
| 15:05.23 | usr13 | They are all gone. |
| 15:05.36 | freegan-bh | abrotman: I figured its isapnp thats locking up |
| 15:05.37 | usr13 | How could I have accidently done this? |
| 15:06.12 | abrotman | freegan-bh: well .. if you need to use it .. you need to use it .. the alternative is that you find a non-PnP isa sound card (or find a PCI one) |
| 15:06.24 | freegan-bh | abrotman: modprobe sb isapnp=0, which disables isapnp support, doesnt locks up, but also doesnt insmod cause it cant find the device |
| 15:06.29 | usr13 | Do I just need to restart the Xserver and see if it goes back to normal? |
| 15:06.41 | abrotman | maybe it's not really sb ? |
| 15:06.48 | dbe | which packages does menuconfig require? |
| 15:07.02 | abrotman | libncurses5-dev |
| 15:07.15 | usr13 | or restart the "kicker" ? Or....? |
| 15:07.32 | freegan-bh | abrotman: it is, that i know. both sb awe64 and sb16 here are isa pnps, both locks up |
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| 15:07.53 | dbe | abrotman, The following packages have unmet dependencies: libncurses5-dev: Depends: libc-devE: Broken packages |
| 15:08.10 | usr13 | Under "All Applications" it says "no entries" |
| 15:08.42 | abrotman | dbe: uhm ... apt-cache search ncurses dev |
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| 15:08.57 | abrotman | freegan-bh: i'm still sayting to try stff in the bios |
| 15:08.59 | freegan-bh | abrotman: and isapnp also screws up the ne2000 isa card, because after the lock up, there are number of messages about hw address mappings, and network stops responding |
| 15:09.00 | lftl | hrmm.. so lets say I went ahead and upgrade xserver... which packages do I need to downgrade now to get to a usable version? |
| 15:09.19 | freegan-bh | abrotman: specifically, reserving irqs in bios? |
| 15:09.20 | abrotman | lftl: either from testing or incoming |
| 15:09.24 | abrotman | freegan-bh: yeah |
| 15:09.30 | usr13 | I have upgraded OpenOffice 1.1.3 to 2.0.3 (using backports). |
| 15:09.37 | lftl | abrotman: what's the url for incoming? |
| 15:09.42 | Cybodog | freegan-bh is sid xserver not usable? |
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| 15:09.57 | freegan-bh | Cybodog: ? |
| 15:10.00 | abrotman | incoming.debian.org |
| 15:10.05 | abrotman | !incoming |
| 15:10.05 | dpkg | from memory, incoming is to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-incoming-system |
| 15:10.05 | lftl | thanks |
| 15:10.07 | Cybodog | <abrotman> lftl: either from testing or incoming |
| 15:10.21 | rhsanborn | Anyone know where usb flash drives show up by default /dev/ what? |
| 15:10.25 | usr13 | Is there a way to re-populate the Kmenu with list of applications? |
| 15:10.37 | abrotman | Cybodog: and ? |
| 15:10.37 | Cybodog | user13 update-menus |
| 15:10.42 | pack | I have a vanilla 2.6.17.8 kernel that pauses during boot saying "Waiting for 10 seconds. Press enter for a shell" |
| 15:10.46 | pack | what is that all about? |
| 15:10.49 | azeem | usr13: try to create a new user, does it have the same problem? |
| 15:10.59 | dbe | abrotman, the package is correct but libc-dev is broken or something. |
| 15:11.02 | Cybodog | abrotman that seems to say that sid is not usable (assumption on my part, as that is where I upgrade from) |
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| 15:11.52 | freegan-bh | abrotman: will try that. but isapnp really screws up the keyboard, numlock caps and scroll lights stops working too |
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| 15:12.26 | abrotman | Cybodog: /topic |
| 15:12.29 | freegan-bh | abrotman: how do I know if module ne uses isapnp? |
| 15:12.30 | dbe | abrotman, Any suggestion? |
| 15:12.35 | abrotman | dbe: are you mixing ? |
| 15:12.41 | fasta | How's the gnome lock session program called? |
| 15:12.51 | dbe | abrotman, Mixing what? |
| 15:12.53 | abrotman | fasta: i think it's in the applets |
| 15:12.54 | fasta | Since the menu entry disappeared |
| 15:12.58 | abrotman | dbe: versions of debian |
| 15:13.09 | abrotman | fasta: install menu-xdg .. and gnome-cappletse or whatever it is |
| 15:13.09 | usr13 | I will try to create a new user and see if the new user has same problem |
| 15:13.17 | Cybodog | abrotman I am dense, I don't get the /topic ref. |
| 15:13.30 | abrotman | Cybodog: read the damn topic .. type /topic in your irc window |
| 15:13.35 | Cybodog | did |
| 15:13.35 | dbe | abrotman, I use Debian Multimedia Distribution (sarge 3.1 with other words) |
| 15:13.43 | abrotman | Cybodog: what does the second item say ? |
| 15:13.49 | abrotman | dbe: demudi ? |
| 15:13.53 | dbe | abrotman, Yes. |
| 15:14.06 | Cybodog | abrotman lol, missed that in my skim, ty |
| 15:14.06 | dbe | abrotman, It _use_ what I'm asking for. |
| 15:14.13 | lftl | abrotman: thanks again |
| 15:14.16 | abrotman | dbe: i have no idea how to get libc6-dev in demudi .. i'd guess you'll need sarge repositories |
| 15:14.21 | fasta | abrotman: both are already up to date. |
| 15:14.22 | abrotman | lftl: you're welcome |
| 15:14.26 | dbe | abrotman, cat /etc/debian_version says 3.1 |
| 15:14.28 | cydork | fasta, gnome-screensaver-command --lock |
| 15:14.35 | fasta | cydork: thank you |
| 15:14.37 | dbe | abrotman, I use them. |
| 15:14.42 | abrotman | fasta: eh .. i think i right clicked on panel and added the lock button |
| 15:14.48 | abrotman | dbe: apt-cache policy libc6-dev |
| 15:14.52 | dbe | abrotman, It _is_ debian sarge |
| 15:14.56 | abrotman | dbe: do you have the security lines for sarge also ? |
| 15:14.58 | Cybodog | so, out of curiosity, what is wrong with sid xserver ? |
| 15:15.14 | fasta | abrotman: It's not there. I miss the binary cydork posted. I can help myself now, probably. |
| 15:15.14 | abrotman | Cybodog: the DD uploaded the wrong version to sid .. it was meant for experimental |
| 15:15.18 | cydork | Cybodog, they are playing with it :) |
| 15:15.23 | abrotman | fasta: ok |
| 15:15.44 | lftl | it looked like a failed experiment to me :) |
| 15:16.13 | Cybodog | well, that would explain my failure to write the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, would'nt it. I did not see this on the mailing list, it must be brand new. |
| 15:16.35 | dbe | abrotman, brb |
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| 15:17.06 | roby | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s |
| 15:17.08 | abrotman | dbe: ? |
| 15:18.06 | Daemoen | hmmm |
| 15:18.09 | abrotman | apt-cache search lib gcc |
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| 15:18.51 | Daemoen | did an apt-get dist-upgrade using the sarge backport... running into a pretty big error |
| 15:18.57 | Daemoen | and of course, now i cant use http |
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| 15:21.06 | _rynz- | I am sick and tired of techrepublic spam emails |
| 15:21.13 | fasta | I really don't understand aptitude. It has thrown away gnome-screensaver, while I use the program every day. |
| 15:21.26 | abrotman | whiuch version of debian ? |
| 15:21.39 | azeem | fasta: aptitude has no emotions |
| 15:21.50 | fasta | azeem: I know, it's ruthless. |
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| 15:22.32 | fasta | And the "intuitive" GUI is _not_ intuitive, imho. |
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| 15:23.15 | usr13 | I have somehow removed all aplication entries from Kmenu. And the only thing I can imagine that could have done it is when I upgraded OpenOffice 1.1.3 to 2.0.3 |
| 15:23.29 | Daemoen | ( using debian is going to be quite a chore after using redhat for years, though the same goes for people on the other side of the spectrum :) ) |
| 15:23.36 | usr13 | But, just wondering if anyone could tell me how to re-populate the Kmenu? |
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| 15:23.49 | Cybodog | usr13 update-menus |
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| 15:24.04 | azeem | usr13: are the applications still installed? |
| 15:24.23 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:24.46 | Cybodog | see azeem's post? |
| 15:25.05 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.35 | Cybodog | usr13, I don't use kde, but perhaps log out and back in? |
| 15:25.47 | spliffy | i was wondering if 'mail' from the gnu mailutils is maildir ready. the mailutils claim to support maildir but i couldn't find any information about how to make it use my maildirs. anyone got a clue? |
| 15:26.02 | Cybodog | there is also a "menu" builder in the system tools IIRC, run that. |
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| 15:26.08 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.23 | Daemoen | usr13, before we get into the what you have and havent done |
| 15:26.30 | Daemoen | what did you do that you need to rebuild your menus? |
| 15:26.33 | Cybodog | usr13 there is also a "menu" builder in the system tools IIRC, run that. |
| 15:26.42 | usr13 | I also created a new user, and same k-menu (with no applications listed). |
| 15:26.53 | Daemoen | ok... and again |
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| 15:26.56 | Cybodog | user13 application finder? |
| 15:26.59 | Daemoen | what did you do to get to that point? |
| 15:27.07 | usr13 | IIRC? |
| 15:27.16 | azeem | !iirc |
| 15:27.17 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 15:27.18 | Cybodog | If I Recall Correctly |
| 15:27.21 | Daemoen | the fact that there is nothing listed in the menu reflects a change that you made to the system |
| 15:27.41 | usr13 | How do I find the "menu" builder? |
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| 15:27.49 | Daemoen | usr13, are you in kde right now? |
| 15:27.57 | usr13 | I am in KDE, yes |
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| 15:28.07 | Daemoen | ok, since you have yet to answer my other question |
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| 15:28.25 | Daemoen | right click the "K" icon and do menu editor and rebuild your menu manually |
| 15:28.52 | Cybodog | Daemoen, nice tool, that, I will try to remember that |
| 15:29.01 | MrLen | I have trouble compiling apps. I think I did not setup the kernel-sources right. Is there a guide for that? |
| 15:29.14 | Ronin | MrLen: why compile? |
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| 15:29.18 | laurens | hi |
| 15:29.19 | Cybodog | MrLen, that is to general a question |
| 15:29.20 | usr13 | Menu editor does not run. |
| 15:29.35 | MrLen | I have a dxr3-card (em8300) |
| 15:29.36 | laurens | any postgres users here? I'm looking for the default spot in debian for the postgres db |
| 15:29.39 | Daemoen | ok, this is the final time im going to ask this usr13 |
| 15:29.50 | Daemoen | what did you do to your system that you lost your menus in the first place? |
| 15:29.58 | Daemoen | before we can help you fix the symptoms, we have to fix the *problem* |
| 15:29.59 | MrLen | What I did: aptitude install kernel-sources and did unpack and link to /usr/src/linux |
| 15:30.03 | muaddib | For the past few days I have been trying to mount my SATA disk drives to mount under kernel 2.6.17.8. From the bios perspective it sees all the drives I have connected however when linux boots up after the loading of the ata_piix module it shows the following. ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq 177 ata1: SATA port has no device. |
| 15:30.22 | Cybodog | MrLen are you having issues compiling the kernel? |
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| 15:30.32 | muaddib | I am assuming that the kernel sees the port but it does see anything connected to it am I correct |
| 15:30.44 | CixxtyNine | I got a problem with my apt-get command. |
| 15:30.46 | abrotman | muaddib: why are you compiling your own kernel ? |
| 15:30.50 | CixxtyNine | I would like to know, if possible, how comes my linux system cannot find the ipw2200-source or ieee80211-source package from apt-get. |
| 15:30.55 | CixxtyNine | it say ; E. couldn't find ipw2200-source package |
| 15:30.58 | MrLen | Cybodog: No i don't want to compile the kernel, just the module |
| 15:31.03 | abrotman | !info ipw2200-source etch |
| 15:31.07 | dpkg | ipw2200-source: (Source for the ipw2200 driver), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.8-3 (etch), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 15:31.16 | Cybodog | MrLen are you following a readme? |
| 15:31.18 | abrotman | CixxtyNine: do you have contrib sources set up ? |
| 15:31.24 | laurens | CixxtyNine: non-free, contrib |
| 15:31.25 | CixxtyNine | yes |
| 15:31.26 | CixxtyNine | I do |
| 15:31.34 | CixxtyNine | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 15:31.36 | muaddib | abortman: Because the 2.6.8 kernel and the stock 2.4 kernel didn't support my ethernet card when I installed debian. So after installing it I just recompiled the kernel to 2.6.17 then I was off to the races |
| 15:31.37 | laurens | CixxtyNine: apt-cache search ipw |
| 15:31.37 | MrLen | Cybodog: yeah.. wait I'll paste the output |
| 15:31.37 | CixxtyNine | deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 15:31.42 | abrotman | CixxtyNine: and you've run apt-get update ? |
| 15:31.43 | Daemoen | i no sooner get this darn thing installed.... and now i get to reinstall it |
| 15:31.47 | CixxtyNine | yes I did |
| 15:31.52 | abrotman | !tell muaddib about sarge 2.6.16 |
| 15:32.01 | abrotman | CixxtyNine: apt-cache policy ipw2200-source |
| 15:32.08 | Cybodog | MrLen if it is larg, do not post here, do pastebin.org or /flood |
| 15:32.10 | CixxtyNine | q-ro-webhost:~# apt-cache policy ipw2200-source |
| 15:32.10 | CixxtyNine | W: Unable to locate package ipw2200-source |
| 15:32.11 | Daemoen | !tell daemoen about sarge 2.6.16 |
| 15:32.17 | MrLen | Cybodog: http://nopaste.php-q.net/234464 |
| 15:32.33 | Cybodog | MrLen phew, had me worried there for a sec |
| 15:32.37 | laurens | CixxtyNine: http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/i/ipw2200/ |
| 15:32.41 | MrLen | Cybodog: :) |
| 15:32.45 | CixxtyNine | oh |
| 15:32.46 | CixxtyNine | thanks |
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| 15:32.47 | laurens | CixxtyNine: your mirror does mirror it, maybe only for unstable |
| 15:32.52 | CixxtyNine | and for the ieee80211 |
| 15:32.53 | laurens | CixxtyNine: lemme check |
| 15:32.53 | CixxtyNine | ? |
| 15:33.00 | abrotman | try another mirror maybe |
| 15:33.03 | muaddib | abortman: Regardless of if I am running the debian stock kernel I don't see how that will address my issue |
| 15:33.09 | MrLen | Cybodog: I had to symlink /usr/src/linux/ to /lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686/build/ |
| 15:33.09 | CixxtyNine | I try'd like 10 mirrors O_O |
| 15:33.12 | Ronin | Daemoen: reinstall? ive heard of that ;) |
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| 15:33.17 | abrotman | CixxtyNine: it's there |
| 15:33.20 | laurens | CixxtyNine: http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ieee80211/ |
| 15:33.26 | abrotman | muaddib: you want a newer kernel .. |
| 15:33.28 | laurens | CixxtyNine: it should find ieee80211 regardless |
| 15:33.38 | Daemoen | Ronin, so have I... debian and I have yet to get along, lol. I finally managed to get *into* debian though, so im making progress |
| 15:33.40 | laurens | CixxtyNine: because it's in main, not contrib or non-free |
| 15:33.42 | abrotman | muaddib: if you want help compiling a kernel .. ask #kernel |
| 15:33.56 | CixxtyNine | It could find ieee80211 |
| 15:33.58 | CixxtyNine | neither |
| 15:34.07 | abrotman | laurens: he has main setup |
| 15:34.11 | Daemoen | i think im going to write up documentation on the whole process of getting debian sarge to 2.6.16 with kde 3.5, gnome 2.12, and go from there |
| 15:34.12 | Daemoen | lol |
| 15:34.13 | Cybodog | MrLin, sorry I can not help you, looks like bad code, but I am not a coder. |
| 15:34.22 | abrotman | Daemoen: dist-upgrade to etch ? :) |
| 15:34.27 | Ronin | Daemoen: etch? |
| 15:34.41 | laurens | abrotman: yeah, and ieee80211-source should be in it IIRC |
| 15:34.44 | Daemoen | etch has serious flaws listed on its primary page |
| 15:34.52 | abrotman | flaws? |
| 15:34.54 | CixxtyNine | so I should do dist-upgrade? |
| 15:35.06 | Daemoen | yeah, but i cant get to the page to look at them again, lol |
| 15:35.10 | MrLen | Cybodog: its definitly about the kernel-source... I did aptitude install the kernel-source and than you have to patch to have the debian-kernel? |
| 15:35.16 | Daemoen | abrotman: does etch have gnome 2.12? |
| 15:35.27 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel etch |
| 15:35.27 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.14.2-1 (etch), Packaged size: 379 kB, Installed size: 876 kB |
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| 15:35.29 | abrotman | apparently 2.14 |
| 15:35.30 | Daemoen | oooh |
| 15:35.31 | Daemoen | nice |
| 15:35.33 | Daemoen | :-D |
| 15:35.49 | Daemoen | ok... ill probably be back in.... 15ish hours... |
| 15:35.54 | muaddib | abortman: I have a newer kernel :) |
| 15:35.56 | laurens | !info wmii etch |
| 15:36.00 | abrotman | muaddib: which doesn't work |
| 15:36.00 | Daemoen | as im going to start the reinstall process, and then work. |
| 15:36.03 | dpkg | wmii: (lightweight tabbed and tiled X11 window manager, version 3), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.1-2 (etch), Packaged size: 80 kB, Installed size: 300 kB |
| 15:36.04 | Cybodog | MrLen, as far as I know if you get apt-get install kernel-source, then you have the debian kernel, but I could be wrong |
| 15:36.07 | abrotman | !tell Daemoen about d-i |
| 15:36.14 | laurens | wooo! version three is in etch! |
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| 15:36.47 | Cybodog | !tell cybodog about d-i |
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| 15:36.58 | sertinell | Hi |
| 15:37.01 | MrLen | Cybodog: no you get the original-kernel-source and a directoy with debian-patches |
| 15:37.11 | MrLen | Cybodog: therefore a guide would be very nice |
| 15:37.21 | Daemoen | well abrotman id love to do that, but umm, this computer is rendered helpless right now :-D |
| 15:37.24 | MrLen | cause i have no clue what to do and what to patch |
| 15:37.26 | Daemoen | im lucky im still logged in here |
| 15:37.27 | Cybodog | MrLen, sorry, at least I tried. |
| 15:37.37 | MrLen | Cybodog: yes.. thanks |
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| 15:38.09 | Cybodog | MrLen, have you tried kernel-package and compiled the kernel from source? Would that work for you, using the image as a template? |
| 15:38.44 | MrLen | I have no need for a new kernel |
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| 15:38.50 | abrotman | !tell Cybodog about selftell |
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| 15:38.52 | MrLen | just the em8300-module |
| 15:39.06 | jelly | Hi, I'm having some trouble with my resolver, it apparently tries to use mDNS, and I don't know how to disable it. |
| 15:39.14 | Cybodog | abrotman got it |
| 15:39.28 | abrotman | jelly: did you just ask a question ? |
| 15:39.34 | jelly | abrotman: yes. |
| 15:39.44 | muaddib | abortman: I don't think its the kernel all other devices are functioning and I can boot off of it |
| 15:40.19 | abrotman | muaddib: so .. you compiled your own kernel .. and your SATA drives don't work anymore .. and you don't htink it's the kernel even though nothing else has changed? |
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| 15:40.29 | jelly | abrotman: I can rephrase it... |
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| 15:41.13 | abrotman | jelly: is any mdns stuff installed? |
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| 15:42.05 | jelly | abrotman: wish I remembered how it was called, whatever I have is not in apt-cache show mdns |
| 15:42.15 | jelly | apt-cache search mdns, I mean |
| 15:43.07 | jelly | hmm, I actually used "aptitude search mdns". apt-cache search mdns gives more. |
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| 15:44.47 | muaddib | abortman: The SATA drives never worked... that includes the kernel 2.6.8 and 2.6.16(yes I did apply it to test) |
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| 15:47.19 | n00biest | re all |
| 15:47.31 | jelly | abrotman: I have some libavahi* stuff that looks related, but vlc and kdelibs depend on it. |
| 15:48.09 | n00biest | how do i build modules.dep after compiling a nre kernel? |
| 15:48.15 | n00biest | *new |
| 15:48.27 | azeem | n00biest: depmod -a I think |
| 15:50.17 | abrotman | jelly: avahi is zeroconf .. and could be mdns |
| 15:50.26 | abrotman | muaddib: what controller is this ? |
| 15:51.07 | Daveman | sup abrotman? |
| 15:51.15 | muaddib | intel ich 6 |
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| 15:51.42 | abrotman | Daveman: hi |
| 15:51.51 | abrotman | muaddib: that should be supported in like 2.6.12 |
| 15:52.07 | jelly | abrotman: I can't see how does it bind to the resolver. resolv.conf and host.conf are unchanged and normal, nscd is not running, anything else to look at? |
| 15:52.40 | abrotman | /etc/nsswitch.conf ? |
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| 15:54.20 | muaddib | abortman: Yes I know its should also be supported in 2.6.17 |
| 15:54.22 | abrotman | muaddib: do you have any other sata drives to try ? |
| 15:54.27 | jelly | abrotman: yes, I forgot about that. However it's unchanged too. :-| |
| 15:54.30 | n00biest | after booting the new kernel i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs' |
| 15:54.37 | n00biest | what did i do wrong? |
| 15:54.52 | abrotman | jelly: so it just gets stuck using mdns ? |
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| 15:55.12 | Cybodog | noobiest, just read in the mailing list that devfs is depreciated and removed? from the latest kernel |
| 15:55.40 | abrotman | for quite a while iirc |
| 15:55.51 | jelly | abrotman: yep. |
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| 15:56.33 | abrotman | jelly: but this just started? |
| 15:56.43 | Daveman | abrotman, how's life? :p |
| 15:57.01 | jelly | abrotman: well, it worked yesterday. I'm stumped. |
| 15:57.16 | abrotman | jelly: what got installed from /var/log/dpkg.log ? |
| 15:57.24 | abrotman | Daveman: i'm too close to jersey! |
| 15:58.19 | muaddib | abortman: No not at the moment |
| 15:58.26 | Daveman | :P |
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| 15:58.37 | jelly | abrotman: gnash, libgnash0, libnjb-dev and a custom kernel image. |
| 15:58.40 | Daveman | abrotman, is the radiation and contamination seeping in? :P |
| 15:58.41 | abrotman | muaddib: so the bios sees them .. debian doesn't .. does debian see the controller ? |
| 15:58.48 | abrotman | gnash is flash |
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| 15:58.53 | abrotman | Daveman: yes |
| 15:58.55 | Daveman | :p |
| 15:59.08 | jelly | abrotman: yep. libnjb is for Creative's mp3 players. |
| 15:59.10 | abrotman | !info libnjb-dev |
| 15:59.15 | dpkg | libnjb-dev: (Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox library development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.2.5-4 (sid), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 15:59.28 | abrotman | jelly: what if you boot the old kernel ? |
| 15:59.58 | jelly | abrotman: I'll try that, don't know what else to do. |
| 16:00.27 | abrotman | jelly: otherwise .. you'll have to start going farther back in the log |
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| 16:00.45 | muaddib | abortman: Yes it does see the controller I presume it does based on this message 'ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq 177' |
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| 16:01.20 | Subdino | Hi. I'm searching for a command which would act like seq but would understand ranges like 1-4,6,8-10 |
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| 16:01.34 | jelly | abrotman: hmm, I am running the old kernel. I'll try rebooting anyway, just for fun. |
| 16:01.34 | abrotman | muaddib: lspci |
| 16:01.43 | abrotman | muaddib: paste all of dmesg |
| 16:02.19 | muaddib | abortman: to pastebin |
| 16:02.29 | abrotman | yes .. but i need to go grab lunch .. i'll bbiab |
| 16:02.39 | abrotman | but i'd like to help you solve this |
| 16:03.45 | Vladi_ | hi, i am getting the following error when i try to ping a server with 66 byte packets can someone please help me diagnose this (http://pastebin.com/773548) |
| 16:04.41 | muaddib | abortman: Thanks man |
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| 16:06.52 | CixxtyNine | wich is the lastest best kernel version should I install for my thinkpad t43 notebook? |
| 16:07.01 | n00biest | when make menuconfig, do you know where do i find "devfs"? |
| 16:07.18 | cahoot | n00biest: hit '/' and search |
| 16:07.27 | n00biest | thanks! |
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| 16:07.57 | Subdino | n00biest: beware, it's removed in 2.6.18 |
| 16:08.33 | n00biest | Subdino: i think it's removed in 2.6.17.10 too |
| 16:08.44 | cahoot | isn't there kind of resurrection of devfs at work? |
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| 16:08.45 | n00biest | Subdino: i can't find it |
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| 16:10.48 | sid | "Do not upgrade the X server in unstable" woops |
| 16:10.50 | sid | haha |
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| 16:11.09 | sid | dondelelcaro: Linux World is over no?(topic) |
| 16:11.16 | sid | er, azeem rather |
| 16:11.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 16:11.27 | *** topic/#debian by azeem -> STATUS: http://wiki.debian.org/Status | Do not upgrade the X server in unstable | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
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| 16:12.07 | ianus | hi there |
| 16:12.18 | ianus | u know any repository |
| 16:12.21 | sid | What to do now if you already upgraded X7.1; Any easy alternatives besides snapshot.debian.net? |
| 16:12.23 | ianus | where i can get xgl? |
| 16:13.03 | azeem | ianus: it is not packaged for Debian |
| 16:13.06 | sid | !tell ianus about xgl |
| 16:13.32 | sid | ianus: /msg dpkg xgl-howto; /msg dpkg compiz; |
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| 16:14.11 | ianus | i know its not pack it |
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| 16:14.13 | sid | So is X7.1 going to stay in unstable? Or will it be removed and X7.0 will go back? |
| 16:14.21 | ianus | but i dont know |
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| 16:14.27 | ianus | if there a no official one |
| 16:14.35 | sid | obviously not ianus |
| 16:15.01 | ianus | i dont see why obviously... |
| 16:15.09 | ianus | theres a version for obuntu |
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| 16:15.13 | ianus | ubuntu |
| 16:15.15 | ianus | soo |
| 16:15.15 | sid | ianus: No there isn't. |
| 16:15.16 | ianus | ... |
| 16:15.20 | sid | Not "official" at least. |
| 16:16.07 | afed | bonerbuntu |
| 16:16.19 | ianus | soo i have to compile all by myself? |
| 16:16.21 | afed | see |
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| 16:16.34 | DanTHpc2 | Hi all |
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| 16:17.01 | DanTHpc2 | Does anyone know here are the 2.6.8 kernel and enabling timer of 1000HZ on it? |
| 16:17.03 | azeem | ianus: I suggest you wait until something is in experimental at least |
| 16:17.48 | zottel | hi, did someone already mention that udev in your unstable-mirror-list seems to be broken? |
| 16:17.53 | ianus | i see |
| 16:17.57 | ianus | thanks azeem |
| 16:18.03 | Xjill | Is there a way to mount a part of a ntfs partition with a different umask than the rest? With a bind mount reports back the set umask, but the folder has the permissions of the original mount |
| 16:18.32 | zottel | <--tryed to install that package on 2 different debian installatioens (net and normal) and it didn't work, but the testing-udev works great :-D |
| 16:19.08 | azeem | zottel: what exactly did not work? |
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| 16:19.39 | zottel | hm, it crashed apt-get ;-D |
| 16:19.55 | zottel | returned an error 1 or something like that... |
| 16:20.05 | azeem | zottel: please paste the error to a pastebin if you want somebody to look at it |
| 16:20.06 | azeem | !past |
| 16:20.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, past is you can also join #flood |
| 16:20.08 | r000t | what place should i look for howtos on setting up etch as mailserver |
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| 16:20.10 | azeem | !paste |
| 16:20.11 | dpkg | from memory, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
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| 16:20.33 | zottel | hm, well, i've fixed it on my own ;-D |
| 16:20.54 | azeem | zottel: oh well |
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| 16:21.26 | zottel | (with the udev of debian testing :-D ) |
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| 16:24.11 | jelly | abrotman: found the mdns culprit, I used 3rd party libc6 packages (shoot me) -- because of included grsecurity patches, and the maintainer included mdns among other stuff. |
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| 16:25.22 | ghenry | nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk |
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| 16:25.57 | Ronin | pass |
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| 16:29.05 | wishkah | I'm missing some fonts in the openoffice fonts list (e.g. times new roman) but it's displayed fine when I load a file with those fonts in it |
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| 16:29.28 | Lugiatm | What's Ubuntu? |
| 16:29.46 | Ronin | Lugiatm: some other linux distro, they have #ubuntu to discuss it fully |
| 16:29.54 | wishkah | Lugiatm: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu |
| 16:29.59 | Lugiatm | Ah, thanks |
| 16:30.04 | cydork | !msttcorefonts |
| 16:30.05 | dpkg | msttcorefonts is, like, package to install MSFT core TrueType fonts. http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ for font *.EXEs, unpack with cabextract. Install the 'x-ttcidfont-conf' package, and add this FontPath line to your XF86Config-4 file in the "Files" section: 'FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"'. then 'xset fp rehash' |
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| 16:30.29 | wishkah | cydork thx |
| 16:30.58 | cydork | wishkah, or you can do install msttcorefonts too i guess do apt-cache search msttcorefonts |
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| 16:31.35 | nvz | damn over 50 dependencies for gnucash |
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| 16:34.42 | CixxtyNine | wich is the lastest best kernel version should I install for my thinkpad t43 notebook? |
| 16:34.56 | azeem | CixxtyNine: which one are you running right now? |
| 16:35.10 | CixxtyNine | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 16:35.11 | five0 | any of you know how do disable privmsgs in irssi? |
| 16:35.41 | azeem | CixxtyNine: install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 16:35.45 | five0 | and, if it's possible, to do it on a per-server scale |
| 16:35.49 | Ronin | five0: theres a whitelist script |
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| 16:36.22 | nvz | screw it I am using a spreadsheet :P |
| 16:36.26 | wishkah | cydork installing the package worked just fine, even updated the config file automatically. darn I love Debian :) |
| 16:36.29 | CixxtyNine | all right |
| 16:36.46 | cydork | wishakah, me too :) |
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| 16:37.04 | five0 | nvz: there are curses- accounting tools, i thinik |
| 16:37.11 | five0 | nvz: i've used a couple in the past |
| 16:37.21 | nvz | five0: I just dont understand it. |
| 16:37.23 | stew | five0: i think "/ignore -network freenode * MSGS" would work |
| 16:37.26 | nvz | I know how to work a spreadsheet |
| 16:38.23 | CixxtyNine | well |
| 16:38.26 | CixxtyNine | I mean wich subversion |
| 16:38.37 | CixxtyNine | 2.6.* ? |
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| 16:39.10 | nvz | I just want to track my income and expenses and budget for car rental, hotel, gas, food..etc as I am planning a trip in the next two months |
| 16:39.30 | five0 | stew: -network isn't valid /ignore switch on v |
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| 16:39.42 | five0 | +0.8.9 |
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| 16:39.58 | stew | five0: what about ircnet then? |
| 16:40.01 | five0 | i think it's only limited to channels and regxps |
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| 16:40.30 | Ronin | five0: freenode support /umode +g ? |
| 16:40.44 | Ronin | guess thats a no :) |
| 16:40.56 | nvz | I am guessing about $200 should cover 2 days just dont know where the money is coming from cause I dont have any kind of organization :P |
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| 16:41.46 | cydork | nvz, you were about to install gnucash so you can plan a 2 day trip??? |
| 16:42.04 | nvz | yep. and so I can plan other things easier :P |
| 16:42.17 | nvz | I got other things I want to buy |
| 16:42.25 | five0 | heh |
| 16:42.30 | wishkah | need stuff, much much more stuff |
| 16:42.34 | wishkah | ;) |
| 16:42.46 | five0 | nvz: are there online apps for that sort of thing? |
| 16:42.47 | nvz | my current method is keep sending the credit card company money, and just swipe swipe swipe |
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| 16:43.12 | five0 | might be better than a local install |
| 16:43.31 | nvz | which would probably work.. I send them like $75-100 or so every two weeks the next two months and then I can charge everything :P |
| 16:44.01 | five0 | i haven't used hotmail or yahoo in a while, but a similar feature might be offered by the two |
| 16:44.05 | nvz | but somehow I think setting up a budget to where all my bills are paid my credit is paid, and I still have cash saved to do it would be better |
| 16:44.16 | Persilon | Hi |
| 16:44.41 | Persilon | I'm having problems booting from a ia64 iso on a IBM xSeries 336 |
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| 16:45.20 | Persilon | is the ia64 netinst iso from debian.org booteable ? |
| 16:45.41 | MustangMatt | Should be. |
| 16:45.46 | MustangMatt | But haven't personally tried it |
| 16:46.17 | Persilon | MustangMatt: it doesn't boot on a normal x86 machine either (I've checked the md5 and it's ok) |
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| 16:46.37 | MustangMatt | But you can boot other images with no problems? |
| 16:46.46 | Persilon | MustangMatt: I could boot a slackware |
| 16:47.09 | Persilon | MustangMatt: and this machine doesn't have floppy drives |
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| 16:47.19 | MustangMatt | hmmm that's odd. |
| 16:47.45 | five0 | nvz: found this: http://clacct.sourceforge.net/ (= |
| 16:48.03 | MustangMatt | You're trying to use it on an Itanium system right? |
| 16:48.14 | five0 | nvz: ooh, i might actually start using it |
| 16:48.24 | Persilon | MustangMatt: it's has a Xeon processor |
| 16:48.43 | wishkah | Persilon: Xeon can be anything, down to Pentium 3 :) |
| 16:48.47 | MustangMatt | Yah that image won't work with Xeon |
| 16:49.01 | Persilon | MustangMatt: and what image will ? |
| 16:49.14 | MustangMatt | the standard x86 netinst |
| 16:49.30 | Persilon | I thought it was ia64 |
| 16:49.41 | MustangMatt | To my knowledge no xeons are 64 bit |
| 16:49.43 | Persilon | MustangMatt: but it's not optimized for 64bits |
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| 16:50.01 | MustangMatt | But I'm an amd guy |
| 16:50.05 | MustangMatt | so I could be wrong. |
| 16:50.09 | nvz | five0: cool. |
| 16:50.15 | MustangMatt | ia64 is *only* for itanium based systems. |
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| 16:50.56 | Persilon | MustangMatt: I'm booting into setup to have more CPU info |
| 16:51.14 | MustangMatt | If it's Pentium 4 based you need an x86 netinst |
| 16:51.28 | sid | Persilon: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:51.45 | MustangMatt | sid: I don't think he has a working system. |
| 16:52.05 | MustangMatt | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r2-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 16:53.06 | Persilon | the setup didn't have much info, now I'm googling for this xeon |
| 16:53.25 | iGama | Hy, im hoping someone here can help me on this, but how do i create a dictionary debian file? like myspell-..-.deb ? |
| 16:53.27 | MustangMatt | Xeon = 32 bit processor |
| 16:53.39 | MustangMatt | It's just a high end pentium 4 |
| 16:53.39 | sid | Persilon: Just download teh link MustangMatt gave you. And format with that. |
| 16:53.46 | sid | Persilon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon |
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| 16:54.19 | nvz | I dont have much money either.. heh but I still like to keep track of where its going.. so I know what I can afford and when I can afford it.. I should be making about $1000/mo just working 11-7 Wed-Sun not including any other income and I got about $400-500 in expence with rent, cell phone, credit, internet.. etc its how I budget the rest of that money that I am worried about |
| 16:54.20 | MustangMatt | Ah interesting looks like there is a 64 bit xeon but it's not itanium. |
| 16:54.40 | Persilon | MustangMatt: exactly, now I wanna know if one of them is inside this monster |
| 16:54.52 | MustangMatt | Persilon: Regardless, you need the x86 image. |
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| 16:55.05 | MustangMatt | Persilon: Afterwards you can upgrade to whichever kernel. |
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| 16:55.21 | llp | apt, say da da da |
| 16:55.22 | apt | the da da |
| 16:55.40 | Persilon | MustangMatt: but all packages would be compiled for x86 (which would matter if I had an x64 processor) |
| 16:56.09 | sid | Persilon: Just get the i386 iso and format and come back here. |
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| 16:56.18 | MustangMatt | To my knowledge only the kernel is compiled specific to your cpu. |
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| 16:56.55 | MustangMatt | x64 isn't a real term. x86 is a cpu arch for both 32 bit and 64 bit |
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| 17:00.05 | Persilon | MustangMatt, sid: yeap the i386cd booted |
| 17:00.28 | llp | apt, say the da da bug :) |
| 17:00.30 | apt | the the da bug :) |
| 17:01.32 | Verdin | Hmmm. |
| 17:01.33 | rhsanborn | Has anyone here used Wireshark? |
| 17:01.34 | MustangMatt | After it installs you can do aptitude search kernel-image and pick a 686 image |
| 17:01.40 | Verdin | How come apt said the twice and you told it to say da twice? |
| 17:01.43 | cydork | apt, say llp is stupid ! |
| 17:01.44 | apt | llp is stupid ! |
| 17:01.46 | RichiH | !anyone |
| 17:01.46 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:01.54 | Verdin | apt, give me something to drink |
| 17:01.56 | apt | ACTION gives something to drink to verdin |
| 17:02.02 | Verdin | =) |
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| 17:02.15 | Persilon | MustangMatt: but all packages would be still compiled for i386 right ? |
| 17:02.38 | llp | cydork, I am only reporting a bug |
| 17:02.39 | llp | :p |
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| 17:02.55 | cyberbaze | i have problems , i type /etc/init.d/smtpd star , and it shows like it stars the daemon but it doesent , i can use it , and i cant fine is when i check with ps x |
| 17:03.23 | rhsanborn | Alright, wireshark isn't showing any available listening interfaces. But, as I'm here talking to you all now, I apparently have a network connections. Any ideas? |
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| 17:04.02 | jelly | rhsanborn: are you running the sniffer as root? |
| 17:04.30 | jelly | wireshark - new name for ethereal |
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| 17:04.48 | sid | rhsanborn: /join #wireshark |
| 17:05.12 | abrotman | jelly: it wsa your fault! |
| 17:05.20 | usr13 | I previously had problem where Kmenu was empty and was asking if anyone could tell me how to re-populate the Kmenu? I had upgraded OpenOffice 1.1.3 to 2.0.3 (using packport to do the upgrade) and found afterward that kde was broken, Kmenu was empty. |
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| 17:05.30 | rhsanborn | thanks sid |
| 17:05.35 | rhsanborn | jelly, yes |
| 17:05.36 | sid | usr13: update-menus |
| 17:05.39 | abrotman | muaddib: where'd you go? |
| 17:05.46 | usr13 | Well, I fixed it: apt-get install -t sarge-backports kde |
| 17:05.54 | jelly | abrotman: I surely hope not, I liked the previous name better |
| 17:06.14 | abrotman | jelly: i meant the mdns stuff :) |
| 17:06.14 | sid | eh, the new name will bring more users. |
| 17:06.15 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.34 | jelly | abrotman: oh that, yes. I kindof suspected it... |
| 17:06.43 | rhsanborn | jelly, I'm an idiot...nm :P |
| 17:07.02 | MustangMatt | jelly: What's the difference between wireshark and ethereal? Just a fork? |
| 17:07.10 | jelly | MustangMatt: just a rename |
| 17:07.22 | jelly | I think |
| 17:07.41 | MustangMatt | The ethereal site is still up and running. odd they wouldn't redirect it. |
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| 17:08.08 | usr13 | "apt-get install -t sarge-backports kde" resulted in "217 upgraded, 39 newly installed, 6 to remove" |
| 17:08.15 | rhsanborn | jelly, I, in fact, was not running it as root...thanks |
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| 17:08.53 | Verdin | Question: How do I install Nvidia proprietary drivers on sarge? |
| 17:09.06 | Nibbier | i did it 3 days ago |
| 17:09.11 | Nibbier | but no idea |
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| 17:09.53 | rhsanborn | Verdin, it's been a long time, but I thought nvidia had some really nice write ups and bin's on their website for linux/ |
| 17:09.53 | cydork | !nvidia one-liner |
| 17:09.53 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
| 17:09.55 | wishkah | Verdin: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ |
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| 17:11.19 | xaka | Hi guys! How set in VSFTPD global directory for all users? |
| 17:11.48 | xaka | common directory |
| 17:12.13 | Verdin | wishkah, rhsanborn: Thanks :) |
| 17:12.34 | cydork | Verdin, check what dpkg said ^^ |
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| 17:13.06 | wishkah | Verdin: There are two ways, either install the nvidia driver binary from the nvidia.com website or the debian package. I recommend the debian way, but both work (after some trying, don't give up, took me days to get the DRI working right) |
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| 17:13.59 | abrotman | llp: don't do that |
| 17:14.13 | xaka | anybody help me? :/ |
| 17:14.15 | llp | sorry, I wanted to do it on other channel :( |
| 17:14.23 | abrotman | don't do it to any channel |
| 17:14.25 | Verdin | I think I'll try Debian way. |
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| 17:15.42 | cydork | Verdin, that's the only way supported by this channel :) |
| 17:15.48 | Verdin | lol |
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| 17:16.38 | Verdin | cydork: To do the debian way, I have to add an unstable/testing repository? |
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| 17:17.23 | eleftherios | how do we find the architecture of a Debian installation? |
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| 17:17.44 | abrotman | dpkg-architecture |
| 17:17.55 | eleftherios | thank you abrotman |
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| 17:18.01 | FlimFlamMan | i have a really trivial question... i need to create a shared directory for users on a server. what's the most appropriate place for that? /usr/local/? /var/local/? |
| 17:18.16 | johndoe | Help, when startx i get "Module ABI major version doesn't match the server's version." |
| 17:18.23 | azeem | johndoe: see /topic |
| 17:19.17 | johndoe | okay, any trick to UNDO this ? |
| 17:19.30 | abrotman | FlimFlamMan: uhm .. /home/shareddir/<dir>/ ? |
| 17:19.35 | azeem | johndoe: yes, wait till the next mirror pulse in about 6 hours and upgrade again |
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| 17:25.57 | warnk | anyone have opinions/advice on a remote syslog system? |
| 17:26.24 | abrotman | you mean .. hardware .. or a software way to do it ? |
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| 17:27.14 | warnk | well, setting up a linux box to handle the logging of 5 or so servers |
| 17:27.20 | rhsanborn | Anyone here listen to sirius radio? I need to know which package I need to listen online |
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| 17:27.38 | wishkah | warnk: well, if you got file system caching on (as everyone does) it can make sense if the server crashes, you see what went wrong |
| 17:27.56 | wishkah | alternatively you could just have a sync mounted partition with the logs, I guess |
| 17:28.02 | abrotman | sysklogd |
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| 17:28.26 | abrotman | wishkah: he wants one host to be the syslog for numerous machines |
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| 17:30.11 | warnk | my only problem with running remote syslog is that it doesn't seem like it would be any more secure, a simple flood could halt all of my logging |
| 17:30.28 | abrotman | flood of what? |
| 17:30.34 | abrotman | you're worried you'll run out of log space? |
| 17:30.42 | warnk | a syslog flood |
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| 17:31.09 | Smerdyakov | What's the best way to debug DBM databases? (A command-line tool for running queries) |
| 17:31.12 | abrotman | that's what logrotate is for |
| 17:31.24 | jelly | warnk: you could do some sort of throttling. |
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| 17:31.40 | warnk | space isn't an issue, i suppose, i more worried about bogus entries |
| 17:31.42 | jelly | warnk: and only listen to known clients. |
| 17:33.03 | warnk | i thought of throttling, but that also might block a lot of legit traffic |
| 17:33.19 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: db#.#-util ? |
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| 17:35.14 | Smerdyakov | abrotman, thanks. |
| 17:35.32 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: find what you need? |
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| 17:37.57 | DaBlade | I heard that some Xorg packages broke in the etch pool. |
| 17:38.02 | abrotman | wrong |
| 17:38.06 | DaBlade | Good. |
| 17:38.18 | johndoe | what's the KDE version of stable at the moment ? |
| 17:38.26 | DaBlade | Sysinfo for 'RazorBlade': Linux 2.6.16-1-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ at 1920 MHz (3847 bogomips), HD: 49/182GB, RAM: 867/1011MB, 94 proc's, 20.52h up |
| 17:38.29 | DaBlade | That one ^ |
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| 17:38.44 | abrotman | DaBlade: they're broken in sid |
| 17:38.50 | DaBlade | Okay |
| 17:39.01 | abrotman | that's not the kde in sarge |
| 17:39.03 | abrotman | !info kdebase sarge |
| 17:39.09 | Smerdyakov | abrotman, maybe. |
| 17:39.10 | DaBlade | Oh |
| 17:39.10 | dpkg | kdebase: (KDE Base metapackage), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-1sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 17:39.20 | DaBlade | I thought he meant the current stable version of KDE |
| 17:39.20 | abrotman | johndoe: 3.3.2 apparently |
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| 17:39.30 | DaBlade | Not the one in sarge |
| 17:39.32 | abrotman | DaBlade: no .. everyone knows kde isn't stable .. jeez |
| 17:39.37 | DaBlade | lol |
| 17:39.41 | DaBlade | As opposed to GNOME? |
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| 17:39.55 | abrotman | i didn't say that did i .. seems someone has WM-envy |
| 17:40.06 | abrotman | or rather .. DE-envy |
| 17:40.13 | DaBlade | hm? |
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| 17:40.53 | johndoe | geez, i'm the one who updated the xorg pack in unstable. |
| 17:41.09 | abrotman | you wish |
| 17:41.55 | cydork | !pony Verdin |
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| 17:42.45 | Verdin2 | Yay :) It works. |
| 17:43.09 | roby | I just did a make, says: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s what should i check? |
| 17:43.20 | abrotman | apt-cache search lib gcc |
| 17:43.21 | roby | certain package not installed? |
| 17:43.29 | roby | k |
| 17:43.30 | abrotman | nfc what gcc_s is |
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| 17:44.02 | roby | "nfc" ? |
| 17:44.06 | abrotman | !nfc |
| 17:44.06 | dpkg | methinks nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
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| 17:44.31 | roby | hahaha |
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| 17:47.04 | cydork | roby, apt-get install libgcc1 and try again |
| 17:47.37 | rhsanborn | My darn mozilla won't use flash worth a darn... |
| 17:47.56 | rhsanborn | I'm trying to view sirius.com in firefox, and it won't come up |
| 17:47.57 | Verdin2 | lol |
| 17:48.28 | DaBlade | rhsanborn: http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=gnash |
| 17:48.53 | jetx | rhsanborn: got the mplayer and vlc plugins? |
| 17:48.53 | abrotman | rhsanborn: did you put the flash plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ? |
| 17:48.58 | abrotman | jetx: for flash ? |
| 17:49.05 | jetx | oh yeah add flash |
| 17:49.14 | jetx | :) |
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| 17:49.16 | rhsanborn | abrotman, I just did apt-get install libflash-mozplugin, or something to that effect |
| 17:49.16 | abrotman | shouldn't flash do it .. wtf does he need mplayer for ? |
| 17:49.28 | abrotman | rhsanborn: eh .. no .. i don't think that does it |
| 17:49.29 | abrotman | !flash |
| 17:49.30 | rhsanborn | mplayer for listening to online radio |
| 17:49.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, flash is http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 17:49.41 | roby | cydork: libgcc1 is already the newest version. |
| 17:49.49 | roby | is spat out by apt-get |
| 17:50.00 | jetx | i don't see how ppl stand being employed |
| 17:50.06 | jetx | fuckin boring |
| 17:50.19 | roby | i have /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 17:50.21 | abrotman | jetx: you have a job |
| 17:50.30 | Ronin | jetx: beats the alternative |
| 17:50.49 | abrotman | roby: apt-file search libgcc_s |
| 17:50.51 | jetx | yeah but now i have a new job, and i'm not self-employed anymore... well not as much |
| 17:51.19 | abrotman | jetx: what .. you want to end up like nvz? |
| 17:51.25 | jetx | i downloaded a movie to kill the bordom |
| 17:51.30 | abrotman | roby: which version of debian ? |
| 17:51.31 | jetx | and it's boring |
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| 17:51.49 | jetx | ah |
| 17:51.53 | jetx | edit website |
| 17:51.59 | jetx | bbl |
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| 17:52.09 | jetx | zzz |
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| 17:52.44 | abrotman | roby? |
| 17:53.10 | jetx | i working on getting the job where i'm paid to just think... not about anything in particular, just whatever i think of... anybody hiring? |
| 17:53.24 | abrotman | jetx: yeah .. there's a company i know of .. offices are under the bridge :) |
| 17:53.46 | jetx | next to the park... hey i know that place! |
| 17:53.55 | abrotman | no .. not that place .. freak |
| 17:54.19 | jetx | bumfights! |
| 17:54.35 | cydork | jetx, thinking is not easy as you think :) |
| 17:55.07 | rhsanborn | Do I have to add "nonfree" to the end of my sources list to get nonfree apt packages? |
| 17:55.13 | abrotman | uh .. yes |
| 17:55.15 | jetx | cydork: i think my toe is there... see? easy |
| 17:55.19 | tarzeau | good evening |
| 17:55.25 | jetx | rhsanborn: contrib non-free is good |
| 17:55.27 | abrotman | jetx: you think! .. that's the problem .. |
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| 17:55.40 | jetx | main contrib non-free that is |
| 17:55.48 | rhsanborn | jetx, thanks |
| 17:56.10 | jetx | http://linux.hfds.com/files/sources.list |
| 17:56.15 | jetx | has a couple others too |
| 17:56.26 | cydork | !sources.list |
| 17:56.27 | dpkg | from memory, sources.list is something like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian <etch/sid> main contrib non-free" where cc is your country code. |
| 17:56.27 | dbe | abrotman, apt-cache ????? libc-dev |
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| 17:56.50 | dazjorz | Hey |
| 17:57.35 | jetx | search |
| 17:57.35 | jetx | uh |
| 17:57.50 | jetx | it's libc6-dev isn't it |
| 17:57.50 | jetx | jsut search for libc |
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| 17:58.03 | abrotman | dbe: eh ? |
| 18:00.20 | abrotman | dbe: do you have security sources or not ? |
| 18:00.20 | abrotman | !info libc6-dev sarge |
| 18:00.21 | dbe | abrotman, Yes I have. |
| 18:00.21 | dpkg | libc6-dev: (GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files), section libdevel, is standard. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 (sarge), Packaged size: 2475 kB, Installed size: 8556 kB |
| 18:00.23 | zinx | libgcc_s.so.1 would be in gcc-base or something |
| 18:00.26 | dbe | abrotman, deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 18:00.27 | abrotman | dbe: so when you try to install apt-get install libc6-dev .. what happens ? |
| 18:00.31 | cydork | jetx, see there is libc6-dev, you are not thinking :) |
| 18:00.31 | abrotman | zinx: there is more than one |
| 18:00.43 | abrotman | !find libgcc_s sarge |
| 18:00.50 | jetx | 9] <jetx> it's libc6-dev isn't it |
| 18:00.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libgcc_s' (4): (/lib/libgcc_s.so.1) in libs/libgcc1 ;; (/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1) in libs/lib64gcc1 ;; (/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/libgcc_s.so) in devel/gcc-3.3 ;; (/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/3.4.4/64/libgcc_s.so, /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/3.4.4/{libgcc_s.so|libgcc_s_64.so}) in devel/gcc-3.4. |
| 18:01.07 | dbe | abrotman, The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3) but 2.3.2.ds1-22.demudi1 is to be installed E: Broken packages |
| 18:01.12 | zinx | so libgcc1 i guess :x |
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| 18:01.36 | Verdin3 | How do I kill a process that's taking up the whole screen? |
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| 18:01.44 | cydork | zinx, which i have already said some lines people.. |
| 18:01.50 | abrotman | dbe: see .. NOT DEBIAN! :) |
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| 18:01.59 | jetx | shell out to another console |
| 18:02.03 | Verdin3 | Done that. |
| 18:02.11 | Tallu | I get this error when I try to install xserver-xorg xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized |
| 18:02.18 | cydork | Verdin3, try xkill |
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| 18:02.29 | jetx | kill |
| 18:02.34 | abrotman | dbe: apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev |
| 18:02.45 | abrotman | !paster |
| 18:02.56 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 18:03.00 | Verdin3 | xkill: unable to open display "" |
| 18:03.08 | abrotman | don't run it as root |
| 18:03.14 | Verdin3 | I'm not |
| 18:03.22 | jetx | find the pid and kill the pid? |
| 18:03.26 | Verdin3 | How do I find the pid ;d |
| 18:03.26 | jetx | he's in a console |
| 18:03.42 | jetx | you could use top |
| 18:03.48 | cydork | Verdin, do you know which program is that? |
| 18:13.26 | jetx | i don't know how from cli but you can |
| 18:13.30 | Pryon | ps waux | grep command |
| 18:13.36 | jetx | ps something |
| 18:13.40 | abrotman | oh ffs .. just restart X |
| 18:13.44 | jetx | ah |
| 18:13.44 | abrotman | unless you know the program that is using it |
| 18:13.48 | Pryon | or try changing resolution |
| 18:13.55 | jetx | or just look for the one using up the resources |
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| 18:14.03 | Pryon | Or perhaps your window manager allows you to switch windows with a particular keypress. |
| 18:14.07 | jetx | usually works for me |
| 18:14.07 | DogWater | Anyone know of a way to get 3.1 to detect the dell 2800 raid adapter? |
| 18:14.10 | jetx | ctrl alt 1 (not f1) |
| 18:14.11 | jetx | or 2 |
| 18:14.13 | dbe | abrotman, I cannot find libc-dev at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages (Distribution: stable Section: any) |
| 18:14.14 | jetx | or whatever |
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| 18:14.19 | abrotman | dbe: LIBC6-DEV |
| 18:14.23 | jetx | it's libc6-dev |
| 18:14.36 | roby | abrotman: apt-file search libgcc_s spits out nothing... sarge for amd64 |
| 18:14.36 | jetx | SIX |
| 18:14.40 | Pryon | gnome, for instance, uses alt-tab |
| 18:14.46 | abrotman | 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 |
| 18:14.46 | Tallu | Anyone here happen to have experience with setting up debian on lenovo 3000 c100 I tried to check linux-laptop but didn't find anything.. ibm has been known to be nice for support though, from what I hear |
| 18:14.51 | jetx | 6,66, the number of the beast |
| 18:14.55 | abrotman | roby: apt-file update && apt-file search libgcc_s |
| 18:14.56 | Verdin3 | thanks all |
| 18:14.57 | cydork | roby, what are you trying to compile anyway |
| 18:14.57 | abrotman | dbe: apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev |
| 18:15.20 | jetx | debian works on a p366 toshiba lappy why doesn't it work on anything |
| 18:15.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: you tried briquolo, didn't you? could you send a mail to 362897@bugs.debian.org how well it worked for you? |
| 18:15.24 | crille | could one of you guys point me to a decent c++ editor with syntax highlighting? |
| 18:15.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: for the love of god .. i'm the one that told you to package it |
| 18:15.42 | jetx | crille: i don't know about decent but gedit has that |
| 18:15.46 | abrotman | !dbugs 362897 |
| 18:15.46 | dpkg | #362897:G[briquolo] briquolo: SIGSEGV on startup; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:33:12 UTC |
| 18:15.50 | roby | abrotman: a 7 meg gz file is downloaded from my mirror, attemtps to connect to debian security result in 404 not found. then apt-file search lists all the instances fo that file i have includign symlinks it seems |
| 18:16.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: i know that |
| 18:16.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: that's some sort of SDL error |
| 18:16.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: why do you think i don't know that? |
| 18:16.19 | crille | jetx: can you set it to compile too? |
| 18:16.26 | jetx | heh no |
| 18:16.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes but it works for you, i need positive bug reports |
| 18:16.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: because you keep telling me to try it :) |
| 18:16.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: so i can downgrade the severity since it's just for two people that it doesn't work |
| 18:16.54 | abrotman | tarzeau: just make it "Can't reproduce" that's what the other slacker DDs do |
| 18:16.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: i know you did, but can you not just send a mail "Yes, works for me fantastic." |
| 18:17.21 | roby | cydork: it is a very simple c program not written by me |
| 18:17.25 | tarzeau | abrotman: no to downgrade it some debian chef wants positive reports |
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| 18:17.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll do the can't reproduce thing too. but you send the mail k? |
| 18:17.43 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:17.43 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:17.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: btw did you notice the funny version in popcon.debian.org ? :) |
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| 18:18.18 | roby | cyzie: the program has one function that takes a datastruc and processes it |
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| 18:18.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: the second one about the /dev/sequencer .. you could probably fix that so it fails more gracefully |
| 18:18.31 | roby | oops |
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| 18:31.53 | dnanar | hia ll ! |
| 18:32.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's an SDL sound thing .. it's trying to open the sequencer .. and they don't have that module loaded that enables that device .. |
| 18:32.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: read the bug report? |
| 18:32.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've told SDL to not do sound, but still it seems to fail for those two users |
| 18:32.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: i noticed it could be a sound problem |
| 18:32.32 | dnanar | i have some really ***** bug under consol: all packets rejected by miptables (configured with firehol) are showed in the test consol. How to disable them pleas ??? |
| 18:32.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: i think you forgot to have them export SDL_AUDIODRIVER |
| 18:32.54 | abrotman | oh .. maybe not |
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| 18:33.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: maybe they are not so smart and do it wrong, no idea |
| 18:33.13 | dnanar | anyone can help me pleeaase ?? |
| 18:33.26 | Hobbet | anyone got any ideas why syslog would have one timezone, and other apps logging to messages log would have a different timezone? |
| 18:33.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: can you reproduce it if you start unloading audio modules ? |
| 18:33.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: i haven't tried that, but i can try that |
| 18:33.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'd try if i were home |
| 18:33.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: but not now, since i'm in windows xp :), gonna try tomorrow |
| 18:34.02 | abrotman | sure sure :) |
| 18:34.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: do you marry? |
| 18:34.24 | abrotman | marry ? |
| 18:34.27 | tarzeau | merry |
| 18:34.30 | abrotman | am i merry? |
| 18:34.40 | tarzeau | are you going to merry? |
| 18:34.48 | tarzeau | mrry? |
| 18:34.53 | tarzeau | i should register mrry.me |
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| 18:36.13 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 18:36.29 | abrotman | oh .. will i get married .. nfc |
| 18:37.14 | tarzeau | !nfc |
| 18:37.22 | dpkg | hmm... nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
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| 18:52.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: does IKEA exist where you live? |
| 18:52.35 | dbe | tarzeau, It does where I live. |
| 18:52.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: sadly .. yes |
| 18:52.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i like putting those things together much better than nethack sokoban |
| 18:52.49 | abrotman | they're crap |
| 18:52.49 | Hobbet | hmm anyone here know why the kernel would log with one timezone, and syslog would log with another? |
| 18:52.52 | tarzeau | dbe: no wonder, you're in sweden |
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| 18:55.00 | jetx | !who would marry abrotman |
| 18:55.08 | dpkg | who the hell knows eh |
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| 18:55.25 | jetx | !botsnack |
| 18:55.35 | dpkg | jetx: thanks |
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| 18:56.15 | JordiGH | Blurry LCD screen. Is it possible to have some mouse trails? |
| 18:56.51 | RichiH | random statement. unrelated question? |
| 18:56.51 | JordiGH | The mouse is difficult to find in a blurry LCD screen, so I was wondering if there is a way to enable mouse trails in X to make it easier to see where the mouse is moving to. |
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| 18:56.52 | RichiH | ah |
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| 18:57.00 | jetx | i don't get math or java though so don't feel bad RichiH :) |
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| 18:57.07 | otroean | Trying to find a good dvd backup program but can't find. Tried apt-get and google... |
| 18:57.16 | ted__ | excuse me, i have a question: where is the file that tells debian what to start at boot time and what's it called? |
| 18:57.19 | jetx | apt-cache search dvd |grep -i backup or the other way around |
| 18:57.25 | jetx | ted__: do you mean where you chose which os to boot? /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 18:57.44 | RichiH | JordiGH: some googling did not yield anything |
| 18:57.47 | JordiGH | ted__: It's not one file. The Debian (and *nix in general) boot sequence is intricate. |
| 18:57.51 | ktwilight | k3b? |
| 18:57.54 | ktwilight | some others but i cant remember |
| 18:57.54 | ted__ | jetx: no i mean what daemons to start etc |
| 18:57.58 | RichiH | perhaps you dekstop environment can do it? |
| 18:58.03 | jetx | ah |
| 18:58.08 | JordiGH | RichiH: Nor some apt-cache searching... I can't believe that there is nothing for mouse trails. :-/ |
| 18:58.14 | JordiGH | Well... KDE doesn't look like it can. :-( |
| 18:58.14 | jetx | k3b isn't really a backup proggie but you can |
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| 18:58.21 | ted__ | JordiGH: do you have any suggestions where to start looking for info on that? |
| 18:58.24 | JordiGH | There was a factoid about the boot sequence... |
| 18:58.25 | JordiGH | Let's try.. |
| 18:58.30 | otroean | ktwilight: Never thought about k3b but i'll try it... |
| 18:58.31 | JordiGH | !initrd |
| 19:11.18 | dpkg | it has been said that initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 19:11.22 | abrotman | ted__: /etc/init.d/README |
| 19:11.26 | JordiGH | No.. that's not it... |
| 19:11.26 | jetx | !info amanda |
| 19:11.34 | jetx | !find backup |
| 19:11.39 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'backup' (15 of 25): afbackup ;; afbackup-client ;; afbackup-common ;; backup-manager ;; backup-manager-doc ;; backup2l ;; backupninja ;; backuppc ;; cdbackup ;; cedar-backup2 ;; cedar-backup2-doc ;; chiark-backup ;; dvbackup ;; dvdbackup ;; dvdbackup-dbg. |
| 19:11.43 | abrotman | !run at startup |
| 19:11.43 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README |
| 19:12.02 | JordiGH | Thanks, abrotman. |
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| 19:12.20 | ted__ | great. thanks! |
| 19:12.32 | ted__ | im quite a novice but i think its important to know what is running. right? |
| 19:12.43 | jetx | ls /etc/init.d |
| 19:12.59 | jetx | of course not all will nec. be started |
| 19:13.28 | JordiGH | Hm... discussion in the KDE list about using an xscreensaver hack for mouse trails? |
| 19:13.32 | JordiGH | A discussion from 2001. :-/ |
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| 19:13.43 | jetx | hah |
| 19:14.01 | JordiGH | cydork: And make sure your documentation matches your code too. ;-) |
| 19:14.08 | SpComb | $i++; // increment the iteration counter |
| 19:14.25 | cydork | JordiGH, i will try :) |
| 19:14.42 | JordiGH | SpComb: Ever grepped the kernel source for "fuck"? |
| 19:14.50 | crille | exit |
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| 19:15.01 | dnanar | hia all :! |
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| 19:15.14 | dnanar | Hey, please, i have some BIG difficulties with the text console (im under it now). All the pazckets rejected by iptables (used with firehol) are showing at the screen: i CANT see what im writing..... already tried to comment all the line of /etc/syslog.cpnf and no success. i killed klogd and syslog process too, no effect. someone has an idea please ? |
| 19:15.18 | cydork | JordiGH, it's a good exercise when your codes exceeds 4000 lines :) |
| 19:15.34 | abrotman | dnanar: turn off the firewall ? |
| 19:15.41 | cydork | s/codes/code |
| 19:15.44 | otroean | ktwilight: Tried K3b but it only copies dvd to avi. I'm looking for dvd5/9 to dvd 5 |
| 19:16.01 | dnanar | abrotman: errrffffff |
| 19:16.05 | JordiGH | cydork: I was talking about the exercise of grepping the kernel source. |
| 19:16.05 | abrotman | grrr. . arf arf arf .. grrrr .. arf arf arf |
| 19:16.10 | dnanar | ;-p |
| 19:16.14 | ktwilight | oh |
| 19:16.14 | cydork | JordiGH, oh :P |
| 19:16.25 | ktwilight | no idea otroean |
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| 19:16.36 | jetx | otroean: heavy on the windows, but doom9.org should have some info |
| 19:16.43 | dnanar | anyone has an idea please ? |
| 19:16.51 | jetx | otroean: mencoder would work... |
| 19:16.54 | otroean | ktwilight: noprob. thnx. Must windows (DVDshrink) until I find a good one for linux... |
| 19:16.54 | ktwilight | would dvdshrink work on wine? |
| 19:17.00 | ktwilight | that can be a quick alternative |
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| 19:17.25 | thegve | otroean: Good news "there is a good tool", bad news, "I forgot what is was" |
| 19:17.27 | jetx | i think i heard it does |
| 19:17.28 | jetx | but i don't do wine |
| 19:17.31 | thegve | I had a java based tool for this I remember.. |
| 19:17.32 | ktwilight | http://www.google.com/search?q=dvdshrink+wine there is quite some good stuff |
| 19:31.30 | thegve | PC mobo is dead, new one next week, now one my laptop.... I'll see if I can google it up for you again. Curious myself too... |
| 19:31.34 | otroean | thegve: :) |
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| 19:31.38 | JordiGH | Wow. I can't believe this. It really looks like nobody has bothered making mouse trails in X. :-/ |
| 19:31.52 | FalscherHase | otroean: i used k9copy. it's simple but does the job |
| 19:31.59 | ofer0 | good night guys |
| 19:32.05 | JordiGH | I think this means I'm obligated to do them myself now. |
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| 19:32.26 | cydork | JordiGH, wow, I cant believe someone is looking for that :P |
| 19:32.33 | ktwilight | JordiGH, i thnik kde has its |
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| 19:32.47 | JordiGH | ktwilight: I don't think so... where? |
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| 19:33.15 | ktwilight | beats me...i've only used it once or twice but remembering i saw it somewhere. or maybe it was gnome. i dunno. i use xfce and it doesnt haev that. |
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| 19:33.43 | ktwilight | as cydork said, "I cant believe someone is looking for that" :P |
| 19:34.12 | JordiGH | ktwilight: It's for an old lappy with the blurry LCD screens. :-/ |
| 19:34.20 | ktwilight | ouch |
| 19:34.34 | jetx | i just installed on a p366 laptop.. it looks fuckin great |
| 19:34.42 | JordiGH | jetx: I exorcised a lappy recently too... My client is very happy with me and with Debian. :-) |
| 19:34.42 | jetx | try fbdev as a org driver |
| 19:34.49 | JordiGH | fbdev? |
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| 19:35.03 | jetx | err... something like that lemme look |
| 19:35.10 | ktwilight | get a spare part and fix it JordiGH |
| 19:35.22 | JordiGH | ktwilight: Uhh... you're saying I should find a newer monitor and figure out a way to attach it to the lappy? |
| 19:35.31 | jetx | yeah fbdev |
| 19:35.40 | thegve | otroean: http://varsha.sourceforge.net/ Does this do the trick for you? |
| 19:35.48 | jetx | as a xorg driver |
| 19:35.51 | ktwilight | no, i mean strip it open and replace the parts :) |
| 19:36.08 | otroean | FalscherHase: Does k9copy auto to dvd5 automaticly? |
| 19:36.12 | jetx | mencoder! |
| 19:36.38 | JordiGH | jetx: So, uhhh... I should just load fbdev from the xorg.conf file? |
| 19:37.23 | thegve | otroean: That is mpeg -> DVD. Maybe you'll need an additional <codec> -> mpeg converter. You should be able to find one I think... |
| 19:37.31 | jetx | JordiGH: i'm just saying it seems to make my screen good. i also am using vga=791 in the boot sequence. but yeah it's something you could try (yes, xorg.conf) |
| 19:37.50 | jetx | dvd/vobs are mpeg |
| 19:37.57 | JordiGH | jetx: It's a hardware issue. The LCD screen is blurry no matter what you do with it. Remember those? |
| 19:38.02 | thegve | I know.. |
| 19:38.02 | jetx | JordiGH: no, i've not done many laptops at all |
| 19:38.12 | FalscherHase | otroean: http://k9copy.sf.net/ . i don't know. i used it only to just copy the main title of a dvd without reencoding and that worked well |
| 19:38.16 | JordiGH | jetx: Blurry as it in takes a few instants for each pixel to change from one colour to another. |
| 19:38.29 | thegve | But a tool to create the directory's, manage subs, and create menu's etc is needed to make it a "real" dvd. |
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| 19:38.42 | cydork | JordiGH, i remember one of those.. i dont think you can do anything in that case.. :) |
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| 19:38.53 | MASTER-PIGEON | hi |
| 19:39.04 | JordiGH | cydork: Mouse trails make it easier to find a mouse in these LCD screens. I don't think there's a better solution. |
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| 19:52.59 | jetx | all i know is it looked like crap before i used the fbdev... weird thing is, the xorg.conf only sayd 640x480... and it's doing 1024x768 |
| 19:53.11 | cydork | JordiGH, i think it will be better to use console ;) |
| 19:53.16 | abrotman | JordiGH: there's an option that allows you to hit the ctrl key and red ripples eminate from your mouse cursor! |
| 19:53.26 | JordiGH | abrotman: Oh! Where is that? |
| 19:53.32 | _rynz- | (breaking news)(ap/reuters) - Microsoft has purchased Freenode. In an apparent consolidation of resources/finances, irc servers and website services will cease to be public within 3 business weeks. |
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| 19:53.48 | cydork | wtf?? |
| 19:54.03 | JordiGH | Is this one of those Slashdot troll? "Linux is dying" sort of thing? |
| 19:54.03 | abrotman | JordiGH: eh .. windows 3.11 IIRC |
| 19:54.11 | abrotman | _rynz-: shut up |
| 19:54.20 | JordiGH | jetx: Hmm... that could be interesting. The current resolution right now is 600x800, which is kinda not great. |
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| 19:54.20 | abrotman | JordiGH: oh .. XP has it too |
| 19:54.27 | abrotman | JordiGH: it would be a nice feature in X/Gnome/KDE |
| 19:54.34 | _rynz- | www.freenode.net/pressrelease/acquisition.htm |
| 19:54.34 | abrotman | _rynz-: SHUT UP |
| 19:54.52 | abrotman | you're not being funny .. |
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| 19:55.31 | jelly-home | _rynz-: ... and you're offtopic at that |
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| 19:55.37 | JordiGH | *sniff*, brings tears of joy to my eyes. |
| 19:55.37 | JordiGH | :') |
| 19:55.37 | abrotman | JordiGH: ask #kde or #gnome(on irc.gnome.org) if that ctrl key thing is available for either |
| 19:55.41 | JordiGH | abrotman: Kay, will try... |
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| 19:56.49 | drzed | hi there! |
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| 19:57.57 | drzed | i have a strange problem w/ pam: i changed it in order to do some authentication with an ldap server |
| 19:58.01 | SerajewelKS | is the fglrx driver packaged in debian |
| 19:58.11 | cydork | !fglrx |
| 19:58.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz), or but it's in sid only, not in etch |
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| 19:58.24 | cydork | SerajewelKS, ^^ |
| 19:58.27 | drzed | but now i have trouble doing logins with local users |
| 19:58.33 | dbe | abrotman, Do you know how it's possible to produce a default .config file for Linux? |
| 20:12.54 | SerajewelKS | i did... apt-cache search fglrx shows nothing |
| 20:13.00 | abrotman | default meaning ? |
| 20:13.00 | drzed | the system asks twice for the password |
| 20:13.23 | dbe | abrotman, That was my only intention to use menuconfig or xconfig |
| 20:13.23 | cydork | SerajewelKS, are you using etch?? |
| 20:13.29 | drzed | like this: http://phpfi.com/144721 |
| 20:13.34 | SerajewelKS | cydork: yes |
| 20:13.40 | abrotman | dbe: make config ? |
| 20:14.02 | aphexer | I'm reading a mail from a debian developer who uploaded a specific version of a package i require. subject is 'Accepted proftpd 1.2.10-22 (source i386 all)' to debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org. Where can I download that package? |
| 20:14.06 | dbe | abrotman, That asks a hell lot of questions. |
| 20:14.12 | cydork | SerajewelKS, then read what dpkg said at the end :) |
| 20:14.26 | abrotman | dbe: though i'm not sure what you mean by default .. it will probably pick up what your current config is |
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| 20:14.34 | SerajewelKS | ada |
| 20:14.39 | abrotman | dbe: you could do make oldconfig |
| 20:14.46 | SerajewelKS | aha too |
| 20:14.50 | dbe | abrotman, I just want everything to be default and then edit it by hand. |
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| 20:15.36 | abrotman | dbe: try make oldconfig |
| 20:15.41 | dbe | abrotman, ok. |
| 20:15.57 | dbe | abrotman, didn't help, it still asks questions (as I expected) |
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| 20:16.51 | jetx | JordiGH: hwinfo --monitor btw |
| 20:16.55 | cydork | !make oldconfig |
| 20:16.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, make oldconfig is what you run when you copy your old .config file into a new kernel source directory.. it'll take the values it can and prompt you for the others, or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
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| 20:17.18 | cydork | dbe, did you copy it ?? |
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| 20:17.25 | mindbob | Hey guys I have a service called rpcbind running on my debian box, how do i turn it off? i checked inetd.conf but its not started from there? |
| 20:17.29 | abrotman | dbe: it will ask many many fewer .. it will only ask ones not answered by the old config |
| 20:17.33 | dbe | cydork, I'm not intrested as I said. |
| 20:17.36 | abrotman | mindbob: uninstall portmap |
| 20:17.41 | streuner | wait |
| 20:17.48 | abrotman | for? |
| 20:18.02 | abrotman | oh .. that was good suspense |
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| 20:18.28 | streuner | if you going to remove portmap and have nfs-kernel-server installed, and the box is remote you have a problem |
| 20:18.48 | cydork | dbe, huh? |
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| 20:19.09 | streuner | the box *won't* boot anymore. |
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| 20:19.29 | dbe | cydork, ^dbe, did you copy it ??^ |
| 21:00.37 | hans0lo | I'm trying to locate a website (or something) that lists supported hardware for Debian. Specifically, I'm looking for a compatible SATA RAID card. Can someone help me out? |
| 21:00.38 | cydork | dbe, i was saying you have to copy the old .config into the new kernel source directory like dpkg said above ^^ |
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| 21:00.38 | abrotman | cydork: that's what make oldconfig does .. roughly |
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| 21:00.59 | abrotman | hans0lo: most work .. which are you interested in ? |
| 21:01.29 | cydork | abrotman, oh :P |
| 21:01.34 | streuner | hans0lo: use for sarge kmuto's installer |
| 21:01.55 | abrotman | streuner: that doesn't answer his question |
| 21:02.15 | plb | anyone have issues with nv driver on unstable? I updated today and when startx it won't load nv module...says modules requirement mismatch 0 |
| 21:02.22 | dbe | cydork, And I said that I wasn't intrested, this is not what I'm trying to do. I want a default .config file (as xconfig/menuconfig creates when I open/exit them) |
| 21:02.29 | abrotman | plb: /topic |
| 21:02.34 | hans0lo | abrotman: I'd like a true hardware RAID. Any suggestions? |
| 21:02.38 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 21:02.38 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux-ata.org/ |
| 21:02.48 | abrotman | first link |
| 21:02.55 | plb | argh |
| 21:03.01 | plb | too late for that now =\ |
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| 21:03.08 | hans0lo | abrotman: ty |
| 21:03.20 | streuner | hans0lo: 3com |
| 21:03.40 | abrotman | streuner: wtf .. are you drunk? |
| 21:03.50 | plb | is there any fix for this? |
| 21:03.55 | streuner | not yet :-) |
| 21:04.03 | abrotman | plb: get the busted package from incoming or testing .. or wait a few hours |
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| 21:04.15 | abrotman | streuner: you meant 3ware .. 3com makes NICs |
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| 21:04.29 | hans0lo | haha, I was gonna say the same thing |
| 21:04.39 | streuner | hans0lo: 3ware is very well supported |
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| 21:04.57 | hans0lo | ok, thank you |
| 21:05.00 | signuts | It sounds crazy but I have never installed a *.deb file manually. I am attempting to install a python gui application and don't know wether to use dselect/dpkt/apt* etc |
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| 21:05.30 | abrotman | so is adaptec .. but read the faq |
| 21:05.30 | streuner | read debian-isp ML |
| 21:05.30 | sepski | signuts, dpkg -i filename |
| 21:05.30 | JordiGH | signuts: Not crazy, that's how it should be. ;-) |
| 21:05.31 | plb | abrotman: a few hours or a few days? =) |
| 21:05.31 | abrotman | plb: yeah .. something like that :) |
| 21:05.52 | mindbob | streuner, i removed portmap its not remote its sat here in front of me, do i need to install: nfs-kernel-server ? |
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| 21:23.26 | abrotman | plb: i've been told it's in incoming .. i haven't looked myself |
| 21:23.32 | mindbob | streuner, im just locking it down closing unneccesary services only want ssh open |
| 21:23.32 | streuner | mindbob: make sure you don't use NFS then |
| 21:23.33 | mindbob | streuner, how do i check that? |
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| 21:23.42 | plb | hrm wonder if I should format and put testing on or wait heh |
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| 21:23.47 | abrotman | plb: or get the package from incoming ... |
| 21:24.04 | signuts | JordiGH, Is there a way to force dpkg to install while ignoring deps ? I get a dep error |
| 21:24.12 | plb | gotta link? |
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| 21:24.36 | streuner | !closing ports |
| 21:24.44 | JordiGH | signuts: Uuhh... are you *absolutely sure* that you're smarter than dpkg? |
| 21:24.51 | dpkg | <greycat> Whenever a newbie talks about "opening" or "closing" ports, you're in for a hell of a time helping it to unlearn whatever fucked-up concepts it's picked up. |
| 21:24.58 | abrotman | uh ... |
| 21:25.13 | signuts | JordiGH, no but I figure the program w/ not start and complain =) |
| 21:25.27 | abrotman | plb: get it from testing .. incoming was processed apparently .. the fixed package should be in unstable in a few hours |
| 21:25.35 | SerajewelKS | how do i override the version of gcc that m-a uses? |
| 21:25.53 | mindbob | streuner, im confused? |
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| 21:26.35 | plb | abrotman: what is the exact pkg that is screwed up? |
| 21:26.35 | ichdasich | hi |
| 21:26.35 | streuner | you shouldn't :-) |
| 21:26.35 | JordiGH | signuts: dpkg --force-help |
| 21:26.36 | abrotman | plb: look in your dpkg.log .. should tell you |
| 21:26.36 | mindbob | streuner, as in i shouldn't close that port? |
| 21:26.36 | mindbob | or as in i shouldent remove portmap? |
| 21:26.36 | streuner | just don't confuse yourself with open ports... |
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| 21:26.45 | abrotman | mindbob: do you use nfs ? |
| 21:27.04 | aphexer | when a debian developer uploads a package onto the ftp-master, can I get it somewhere? |
| 21:27.10 | ichdasich | does someone have a link to a howto, which explains how to install the nvidia-glx package in testing? |
| 21:27.17 | mindbob | not on this box in question its a firewall |
| 21:27.35 | mindbob | i want to only have ssh open |
| 21:27.44 | abrotman | then you can probably remove portmap without issues |
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| 21:27.52 | ph | hello |
| 21:27.52 | mindbob | ok cool |
| 21:27.53 | mindbob | abrotman, will it still boot? |
| 21:43.36 | JordiGH | ichdasich: I forget. Does the nvidia one-liner not work in testing? |
| 21:43.53 | abrotman | mindbob: uh most likely |
| 21:44.01 | cydork | !etch nvidia |
| 21:44.25 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php Use something less than the -3 version of the 8756 driver to not have the dependency on Xorg 7. |
| 21:44.25 | cydork | ichdasich, ^^ |
| 21:44.25 | ph | How, during installation, can i define the default gdm theme? |
| 21:44.26 | ichdasich | cydork: thx |
| 21:44.26 | streuner | !unix lessons |
| 21:44.26 | dpkg | [unix lessons] (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
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| 21:44.28 | abrotman | ph: you can't afaik |
| 21:44.28 | streuner | mindbob: read (7) |
| 21:44.29 | ph | then how does debian has the debian-gdm theme by default? |
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| 21:44.34 | abrotman | use the gdm configuration tool |
| 21:44.44 | JordiGH | So why were the nvidia drivers removed from etch? |
| 21:44.51 | mindbob | =) |
| 21:45.02 | mindbob | thanks |
| 21:45.30 | cydork | !why nvidia-graphics-drivers is not in testing |
| 21:45.34 | dpkg | nvidia-graphics-drivers is not in testing for the reasons list in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 21:45.43 | cydork | JordiGH, ^^ |
| 21:46.01 | JordiGH | Thankee. |
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| 21:46.23 | streuner | JordiGH: you talking about nvidia-glx? |
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| 21:46.30 | JordiGH | I'm talking about whatever cydork pointed me to. |
| 21:47.03 | JordiGH | A page, which, surprise, surprise, I can't open. I must have the worst sysadmin in history. :-/ |
| 21:47.44 | hans0lo | Got another question totally unrelated to my previous one. I've got a systemboard with Adaptec 7901 RAID. Has anyone here used adaptec hardware raid with Debian? |
| 21:47.51 | Ronin | so bypass them JordiGH ;) not that im suggesting you break company policy |
| 21:48.19 | JordiGH | Ronin: I ssh around and open a Firefox elsewhere with the miracle of X forwarding. :-/ |
| 21:48.31 | abrotman | cydork: i don't have one ... |
| 21:48.31 | abrotman | JordiGH: or your dns is busted and you did it |
| 21:48.52 | streuner | well, you smoke some crap then :-) |
| 21:48.59 | JordiGH | abrotman: That's a possibility too, but if anyone did it, it's dhclient. :P |
| 21:49.59 | abrotman | JordiGH: just because the dhcp server gives them out doesn't mean they work |
| 21:50.03 | JordiGH | abrotman: I can open some pages, but not others. |
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| 21:52.31 | JordiGH | abrotman: So you got any clue how to fix this? |
| 21:52.33 | JordiGH | abrotman: And here you got my hopes up that you might know how to fix this... :-/ |
| 22:14.35 | JordiGH | Maybe I should go nag the sysadmin's underlings. They smoke less pot than he does, I've heard. |
| 22:14.38 | streuner | !tell JordiGH about guidelines |
| 22:14.44 | abrotman | JordiGH: tell your boss the admin is a dumbass |
| 22:14.52 | liran_ | oh my |
| 22:14.57 | liran_ | im shocked |
| 22:15.01 | cydork | liran_, at?? |
| 22:15.02 | JordiGH | Huh? Which guideline did I break? Politeness and patience? abrotman can take it. ;-) |
| 22:15.02 | liran_ | ibm is gonna buy iss for $1.3 billion dollars |
| 22:15.02 | streuner | JordiGH: anyway, just ask the _whole_ channel not a specific person to help |
| 22:15.43 | liran_ | i mean, when i think about it, a few years ago iss was a team of some script kiddies and some talented guys |
| 22:15.47 | streuner | to be concret its in the 'ask' factoid :-) |
| 22:15.52 | JordiGH | streuner: I did ask the whole channel originally, and then abrotman answered, so I started chatting with him. |
| 22:16.00 | streuner | hm |
| 22:16.07 | liran_ | i say good for them, and i wish them the best luck. |
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| 22:16.30 | abrotman | liran_: dunno why they'd buy them .. but oh well |
| 22:16.35 | cydork | liran_, i wont say that :P |
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| 22:16.57 | liran_ | what i like about it mostly is that recently we're seeing more and more big firms purchasing open source based companies |
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| 22:17.07 | JordiGH | That Blue Gene machine, the protein-folding one... does it run Debian? |
| 22:17.11 | liran_ | abrotman: " The all-cash transaction of about $28 per share is meant to bolster IBM's ability to deliver security services to corporations, the company said" |
| 22:17.25 | abrotman | uhhuh .. sure .. |
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| 22:17.45 | itc | hello need some help. got this line: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT , when I do this says iptables: No chain/target/match by that name ( it worked before... ) |
| 22:17.45 | liran_ | abrotman: :) |
| 22:17.50 | abrotman | itc: #iptables |
| 22:18.08 | liran_ | cydork: dont get me wrong. im not dissing iss, on the contrary im all up for them. just thinking that it could have been me and you if we would have went with it a few years ago all the way. |
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| 22:19.00 | cydork | liran_, :) |
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| 22:20.57 | dazjorz | Erm |
| 22:37.09 | dazjorz | I'm getting "ub(4.3): Stall at GetMaxLUN, using 1 LUN" and " uba: unknown partition table" when connecting my external Dell USB DVD drive |
| 22:37.09 | dazjorz | With a Debian installation DVD inserted |
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| 22:37.37 | liran_ | cydork, abrotman- so we're starting up a company? |
| 22:37.40 | cydork | liran_, i have been thinking about that a lot lately :) |
| 22:37.47 | abrotman | i am ? |
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| 22:37.52 | liran_ | hehe |
| 22:37.52 | liran_ | yeah we are. |
| 22:37.52 | liran_ | hold up, im buying lca.com |
| 22:37.53 | liran_ | ofcourse we're not, thats the great thing about it :) |
| 22:37.53 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 22:38.02 | javier | hi all |
| 22:38.03 | cydork | liran_, what the hell is lca.con ? |
| 22:38.03 | abrotman | cydork: liran_,cydork,abrotman |
| 22:38.03 | liran_ | liran, cydork and abrotman, a .com company |
| 22:38.03 | abrotman | L C A |
| 22:38.04 | liran_ | hehe |
| 22:38.04 | eastwood | how to rename a folder? |
| 22:38.05 | liran_ | abrotman: you see?! |
| 22:38.09 | abrotman | mv |
| 22:38.13 | liran_ | abrotman: you already embraced the idea :) |
| 22:38.21 | abrotman | given that he couldn't figure out LCA .. maybe it should just be LA :) |
| 22:38.23 | liran_ | ok thats it, im buying it! heh |
| 22:38.23 | MustangMatt | lower control arm |
| 22:38.26 | liran_ | haha |
| 22:38.31 | liran_ | totally |
| 22:38.31 | liran_ | cydork: pull yourself together! |
| 22:38.38 | javier | after upgrading the xorg server, ups, i've just read the topic :(, i have the next problem when i run startx: (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) |
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| 22:38.45 | liran_ | cydork: we're trying to build a multi-milliard company here! |
| 22:38.46 | threw | hi all ! |
| 22:38.51 | cydork | liran_, i am trying :P |
| 22:38.53 | liran_ | hey threw |
| 22:39.11 | liran_ | lets start small, #lca :) |
| 22:39.15 | rhsanborn | lca.com is already taken |
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| 22:39.26 | abrotman | javier: /topic |
| 22:39.40 | rhsanborn | Our company has tried to buy it on more than one occasion :p |
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| 22:39.45 | abrotman | javier: get the package from testing .. or wait until the new package goes up today |
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| 22:39.49 | liran_ | rhsanborn: correct. actually, all the 3 letters words are already taken for all primary domains. |
| 22:39.51 | abrotman | rhsanborn: try harder |
| 22:39.56 | rhsanborn | abrotman, We contact the company that owns it, they wouldn't respond...it wouldn't be worth the cost anyway |
| 22:40.08 | rhsanborn | contacted * |
| 22:40.10 | abrotman | rhsanborn: i broke your website |
| 22:40.16 | abrotman | and i mean .. BROKE! |
| 22:40.17 | rhsanborn | abrotman, you'd have done the world a favor |
| 22:40.20 | abrotman | rhsanborn: no .. really .. |
| 22:40.20 | javier | i've read there is a bug about it: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg222261.html, anyone knows if its solved already? |
| 22:40.34 | cydork | abrotman, can i break it next time :) |
| 22:40.45 | abrotman | javier: i just told you what to do |
| 22:52.18 | abrotman | cydork: it's really very easy |
| 22:52.21 | MannieX | hi all |
| 22:52.28 | threw | ive just installed a debian testing. at the first boot, all work fine. ive added unstable package location to my source.list and updated my new unstable system. rebooted my pc. Xorg (v.7.1.1) doesnt start: "module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version". it seems that ABI is a submodel of nv module, so xorg cant load nv module and throw me an "no screen found". does anyone know how to solve the problem ? maybe if i |
| 22:52.29 | MannieX | any one know a grafic interface for iptable ? |
| 22:52.33 | streuner | hehe |
| 22:52.38 | cydork | threw, read topic |
| 22:52.39 | streuner | !topicsmite threw |
| 22:52.40 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon threw. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 22:52.45 | liran_ | MannieX: check freshmeat, there should be many available. |
| 22:52.51 | syntaxx | i hope next debian stable doesnt need if you have a bad ram or bad hardware |
| 22:53.17 | MannieX | tnx liran_ |
| 22:53.19 | threw | cydork: why ? is it some sticky bug ? |
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| 22:53.27 | streuner | sure, what else? |
| 22:53.33 | streuner | just get the package out of testing or incoming |
| 22:53.33 | javier | ok abrotman, thanks |
| 22:53.37 | cydork | threw, read it again.. :) |
| 22:53.38 | Eulex | syntaxx, umh... no os can avoid the problems with bad hardware. it is possible in some cases to avoid problems with bad ram, though, but you should really buy new. |
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| 22:53.43 | threw | well, it seems REALLY strange. this morning i have another debian wioth an unstble xorg, and all were working fine ! |
| 22:53.47 | cydork | threw, this incident happend in the afternoon :) |
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| 22:54.04 | hjubal | hi |
| 22:54.10 | threw | cydork: ahhhhhh ok s*** . does anyone know whats up ? |
| 22:54.15 | Eulex | btw, is it possible to see how much network bandwidth each process uses? |
| 22:54.19 | abrotman | Eulex: watch them? |
| 22:54.22 | syntaxx | Eulex, my 1gb ram age is only a yr old.. why should i buy new if ubuntu or freebsd doesnt want them to install my pc |
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| 22:54.24 | cydork | threw, yep they are working on that in mean while read what he said <streuner> just get the package out of testing or incoming |
| 22:54.25 | Eulex | syntaxx, hmm, now I don't understand? |
| 22:54.27 | Eulex | abrotman, what do you mean? |
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| 22:54.29 | syntaxx | Eulex, well im trying to install freebsd and im getting signal 11 caught they said maybe a bad ram or hardware |
| 22:54.29 | abrotman | Eulex: watch all the packets! |
| 22:54.29 | abrotman | !sig11 |
| 22:54.30 | dpkg | sig11 is probably Process Signal 11, SEGV (Segment Violation or Segmentation Fault). The program has been smacked down by the kernel for accessing memory outside its segment; indicates a bug in the software, or, with memory-intensive software like gcc, may indicate failing RAM. See the Sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
| 23:05.26 | threw | cydork: heuhhh.... what is incoming please ? i dk this at all ? upon testing/stable/u,stable ? |
| 23:05.27 | Eulex | syntaxx, right. but this is #debian. |
| 23:05.30 | streuner | threw: hm, /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 23:05.38 | abrotman | incoming.debian.org .. and it's nto there . it's been processed |
| 23:05.47 | threw | erf sid != unstable ?! |
| 23:05.55 | syntaxx | Eulex, yeah that is why i wish debian next stable release doesnt have those error |
| 23:05.56 | abrotman | sid is and always will be unstable |
| 23:05.59 | streuner | sid is unstable |
| 23:06.03 | streuner | !sid |
| 23:06.05 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 23:06.22 | threw | ok so what is incoming ? :) |
| 23:06.27 | Eulex | abrotman, oh. I'd like some nice program like nload, but that displays network load per process; somewhat like top |
| 23:06.37 | abrotman | !incoming |
| 23:06.39 | dpkg | well, incoming is to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-incoming-system |
| 23:06.53 | streuner | threw: pay attention, scroll up |
| 23:06.58 | abrotman | Eulex: i like jnettop .. but i don't htink it does that |
| 23:07.03 | abrotman | !break |
| 23:07.03 | dpkg | "This release is currently considered ``unstable''. That means that things *will* break if you run it." (quote from old page http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/), or see ben break, or http://bugs.debian.org/155873 |
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| 23:07.22 | threw | streuner: erf cant scroll im using irssi-text ;-p |
| 23:07.27 | abrotman | you can page up .. |
| 23:07.27 | rhsanborn | Anyone know which package comes with Etch by default? X11 or X.org? |
| 23:07.36 | Tallu | threw: pg up |
| 23:07.39 | Eulex | syntaxx, umh, debian fails installing in a similar way? btw, as I said before: no os can avoid the problems imposed by bad hardware. |
| 23:07.44 | Eulex | rhsanborn, both. |
| 23:08.02 | streuner | hm, you might be somebody who are learn-resident or a troll, you shouldn't run sid then. |
| 23:08.02 | abrotman | rhsanborn: Xorg is X11 .. but Xorg is in etch |
| 23:08.03 | threw | ok so incoming is more untable than unstable ? heyh i didnt know this before. thx, ill sleep less dumb tonight |
| 23:08.03 | _rynz- | http://www.websense.com/docs/Datasheets/en-gb/v6.1/Websense_RemoteFiltering.pdf#search=%22websense%20remote%20filtering%20agent%22 |
| 23:08.05 | _rynz- | HAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 23:08.05 | _rynz- | that agent is tight |
| 23:08.05 | Eulex | rhsanborn, but you probably mean Xfree86 vs Xorg. Xorg is in etch. |
| 23:08.05 | abrotman | _rynz-: SHUT UP |
| 23:08.05 | _rynz- | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:08.05 | abrotman | _rynz-: don't you have anything better to do? |
| 23:08.05 | rhsanborn | Eulex, thats exactly what I mean, thank you |
| 23:08.05 | _rynz- | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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| 23:08.19 | abrotman | _rynz-: if you can't be on-topic ... please /part |
| 23:08.19 | Eulex | abrotman, ok, I'll try jnettop out |
| 23:08.19 | rhsanborn | Alright, anyone know how to add another available resolution to X.org? It gave me up to 1024x768 by default, but the card, and my second monitor can handle 1280x1024... |
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| 23:08.19 | _rynz- | hi rhsanborn |
| 23:08.19 | abrotman | Eulex: i just said .. i don't think it does what you want .. i just think it's a wicked cool app :) |
| 23:08.23 | rhsanborn | hi _rynz- |
| 23:08.24 | Eulex | abrotman, well, I'll try it out nevertheless |
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| 23:26.35 | abrotman | Eulex: isn't that a strange app ? |
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| 23:28.02 | Eulex | abrotman, I like it :) and it shows the port -- almost as good as showing per process |
| 23:28.11 | abrotman | Eulex: it's just creepy to watch :) |
| 23:28.15 | streuner | abrotman: ever listen to 'Nightwish'? |
| 23:28.18 | cydork | Eulex, ntop also shows the port i guess |
| 23:28.18 | abrotman | streuner: no more drinking! |
| 23:28.27 | abrotman | streuner: eh .. i don't think i have |
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| 23:28.42 | streuner | abrotman: stop smoking crap! |
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| 23:28.55 | liran_ | nightwish are good |
| 23:28.57 | streuner | of course :-) |
| 23:28.57 | streuner | Metal, but with classic elements |
| 23:28.58 | liran_ | yep. |
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| 23:28.59 | streuner | best is for me 'Century Child' |
| 23:29.02 | EnsignRedshirt | I've been looking at www.backports.org, but I don't see a simple way to see what backports are available. Is there a searchable backports database somewhere? |
| 23:29.04 | abrotman | EnsignRedshirt: grab the Packages file .. grep it |
| 23:29.06 | EnsignRedshirt | abrotman: That's what I've been doing :) |
| 23:29.06 | hans0lo | abrotman: if it's country music, you're right. :) |
| 23:29.06 | abrotman | EnsignRedshirt: it's not elegant .. but it works |
| 23:29.07 | abrotman | hans0lo: blues .. old dead guy blues :) |
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| 23:29.26 | hans0lo | abrotman: thats some good stuff |
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| 23:29.27 | streuner | Boom Boom Boom |
| 23:29.27 | abrotman | EnsignRedshirt: once you've setup backports and include it in your sources.ilst .. you can use it with regular apt-cache search |
| 23:29.31 | streuner | only a few songs are good (blues) |
| 23:29.31 | nvz | ahh A/C.. its a toasty one out there today |
| 23:29.32 | abrotman | EnsignRedshirt: and apt-cache policy might be helpful |
| 23:30.01 | abrotman | streuner: stop watching blues brothers |
| 23:30.15 | streuner | some people listen to Jazz and thinking its blues :-) |
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| 23:38.55 | gpm | a |
| 23:38.56 | streuner | b |
| 23:38.56 | gpm | c |
| 23:38.57 | gpm | ha |
| 23:39.15 | streuner | heh |
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| 23:39.19 | Deformative | Hello, I am not a debian user... But I hope someone will help me anyway.. I seem to be stuck trying to get busybox to execute the sh command. I can not find a channel that knows how.. |
| 23:39.19 | Ronin | only a few songs are good (blues) ? smoking crack tonight streuner ? |
| 23:39.20 | streuner | Ronin: well, i don't not many from blues, and don't listen to much to blues |
| 23:39.24 | streuner | Ronin: but on the other hand, if you ever listen to Nightwish you wouldn't expect that's Metal... |
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| 23:39.25 | cydork | Ronin, you asked for it :) |
| 23:39.26 | jetx | that plus some kde |
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| 23:39.26 | lhz | how is bluez retreiving the PIN for itself ? |
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| 23:39.29 | abrotman | lhz: wrong channel ? |
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| 23:39.30 | lhz | abrotman, well its a debian package |
| 23:39.30 | abrotman | the PIN ? |
| 23:39.31 | abrotman | streuner: so of the few blues songs you've listened to .. they're all good ? |
| 23:39.33 | streuner | nah, as i said only a few, i prefer more Rock |
| 23:39.34 | abrotman | no more beer for you |
| 23:39.34 | nvz | I am trying to debate if I am really so lazy that I would go to work and get food instead of just cooking something here |
| 23:39.35 | Deformative | Eh, I guess no one is gonna help me here eather... |
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| 23:39.36 | FalscherHase | Deformative: busybox sh works for me |
| 23:39.36 | beardy | abrotman: You don't like blues? |
| 23:39.37 | abrotman | Deformative: have you tried ##linux ? |
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| 23:39.37 | lhz | abrotman: can't find an updated manpage for hcid.conf |
| 23:39.37 | abrotman | beardy: i do .. very much |
| 23:46.12 | streuner | Jazz is good, and the difference isn't that big... |
| 23:46.19 | nvz | I mean how hard is it to make some damn mac and cheese or something |
| 23:46.23 | beardy | eh.. |
| 23:46.31 | Deformative | abrotman, yes. |
| 23:46.35 | abrotman | lhz: eh .. ok |
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| 23:46.47 | abrotman | !yinzersmite nvz |
| 23:46.51 | Deformative | FalscherHase, what version and what did you do to make it work? |
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| 23:47.26 | abrotman | lhz: google was no help? (i don't use bluetooth devices) |
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| 23:47.27 | beardy | streuner: There are many types of jazz, and many types of blues, and it's not easy to tell the sharp differences between genres, so that's a quite wide statement, IMO. |
| 23:47.27 | thegve | Hello. We've bought a HP Proliant ML150, with a Matrox G200 video chip onboard. Does anyone have experience getting this thing(or any Matrox) to work with debian? |
| 23:47.27 | lhz | I've waded through google links |
| 23:47.27 | cydork | lhz, are you loolking for hcitool?? |
| 23:47.27 | nvz | hmm I wonder if I can come up with some updates for yinzersmite.. when I was a youngin I could talk like that all day.. I spent so much time away from the burgh over the past few years I can hardly remember the lingo |
| 23:47.27 | abrotman | thegve: should just work |
| 23:47.36 | EnsignRedshirt | I'm trying to install the python matplotlib library. 'setup.py config' tells me "Package gobject-2.0 was not found...". Any guesses what that might be, or what I need to install? |
| 23:47.36 | abrotman | nvz: maybe you should get back to your roots and head downtown for a few hours .. hit up some bars .. old diners .. stuff like that |
| 23:47.36 | streuner | beardy: true |
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| 23:47.46 | abrotman | !find gobject |
| 23:47.56 | FalscherHase | Deformative: 1.01. (but it came with OpenSlug [http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/HomePage], so i didn't do anything with it) |
| 23:48.02 | lhz | I use hcitool to get the phone address, but when connecting I must enter an pin from the phone, and that get verified by the pc |
| 23:48.02 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gobject' (5 of 32): (/usr/include/qt3/qdragobject.h) in devel/libqt3-headers ;; (/usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-doc/gobject) in doc/libgtk2.0-doc ;; (/usr/share/doc/libpango1.0-doc/gobject) in doc/libpango1.0-doc ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/rbgobject.h) in libs/libglib2-ruby ;; (/usr/include/gnucash/gnc-basic-gobject.h) in gnome/gnucash-common. |
| 23:48.18 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well my annual gatherings with friends are Cissy's Birthday/Halloween party and New Years.. and they are both fast approaching.. I am just trying to prepair for those.. |
| 23:48.30 | cydork | lhz, hciconfig?? |
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| 23:48.42 | abrotman | nvz: you're getting old |
| 23:48.53 | Deformative | FalscherHase, I will try that then, because I am currently trying to use version 1.2.1 and the make config file doesn't have an sh option that I can find. |
| 23:49.04 | thegve | abrotman: It doesn't. I works under CentOS (installed expecially for testing purpose, the server is RedHat certified) using the vesa driver. |
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| 23:49.25 | jetx | nvz is a great grandfather |
| 23:49.27 | Althaser | how can I stop the events on firestarter ? please |
| 23:49.32 | abrotman | thegve: are you trying to install X ? |
| 23:49.32 | EnsignRedshirt | abrotman: Does dpkg's output tell you anything useful? I don't know what to do with that. |
| 23:49.40 | thegve | The Matrox driver won't work anywhere, as it's a thin client system I'd apreciate best possible performance. abrotman: Yep.. |
| 23:49.40 | nvz | abrotman: I am the dj at the Halloween party.. trying to get my music together, look around for costume ideas, save money for a rental car if I end up needing one.. |
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| 23:49.53 | abrotman | thegve: have you tried the mga driver? |
| 23:50.02 | thegve | This is the thin client server, to be totaly clear. |
| 23:50.08 | abrotman | nvz: polka eh ? |
| 23:50.11 | jetx | nvz! i know.. you could go as abrotman! |
| 23:50.11 | thegve | abrotman: Yes, that one gives "no devices detected" |
| 23:50.19 | abrotman | thegve: paste the X output |
| 23:50.21 | lhz | actually hcid calls for dbus for the pin... cant turn that off, and dont know how to configure dbus |
| 23:50.31 | nvz | abrotman: heh.. It used to be exclusivly classic rock years ago when I first got the gig... but now we diversify |
