| 00:00.13 | *** join/#debian sticky (n=sticky@sticky.fxfi.net) |
| 00:00.24 | Malagmyr | abrotman: it has apm support in bios, which is actually listed as being APM. I've enabled it, and haven't changed it since before the "upgrade". |
| 00:01.01 | *** part/#debian Alek1 (n=Alex@157.100.190.214) |
| 00:01.01 | abrotman | might be acpi |
| 00:01.06 | sticky | What's the way you install packages that are being 'kept back'? |
| 00:01.13 | abrotman | !tell sticky about held back |
| 00:01.28 | sticky | grr |
| 00:01.29 | Malagmyr | abrotman: it crashes when ACPI is enabled. crashes badly and goes black. apm is what has always worked on it. |
| 00:01.30 | sticky | I hate PMs |
| 00:01.42 | abrotman | !held back |
| 00:01.42 | dpkg | kept back is probably when packages have not been upgraded, even though newer versions are available, because it cannot resolve dependencies for the newer version, or when you told it to hold packages, or when you used "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade". The safest way to resolve this is perhaps to 'apt-get -s install <kept-package>' and see why it wasn't automatically upgrading the package |
| 00:01.44 | abrotman | better ? |
| 00:01.48 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 00:01.51 | abrotman | Malagmyr: ok .. nm then :) |
| 00:02.02 | sticky | yes, now I have to switch to window 35 and close it though |
| 00:02.04 | *** join/#debian towsonu2003 (n=mehmet@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:02.28 | sticky | thanks. |
| 00:02.48 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.82) |
| 00:02.57 | *** join/#debian owdondek (n=owdondek@220.70.26.66) |
| 00:03.10 | abrotman | dry his tears |
| 00:03.22 | petemc | could be.. |
| 00:03.25 | sticky | lol |
| 00:03.44 | rvsjoen | is there no ipython package for python 2.5 ? |
| 00:04.00 | sticky | I just dislike having to type /win #### when I get a PM, especially with out knowing it's going ot happen first |
| 00:04.22 | abrotman | !comfort sticky |
| 00:04.22 | dpkg | There, there, sticky. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:04.31 | sticky | hah. |
| 00:04.32 | *** join/#debian ldexter (n=ldexter@adsl-065-006-163-043.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:04.47 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 00:06.11 | Malagmyr | abrotman: any ideas on how I could get apm shutdown working again? "apm=power-off" in the append section is the best I've been able to find on google, but it does far from what it's supposed to, as I described earlier. |
| 00:06.14 | rvsjoen | i've installed both python2.3 and python 2.5, is there some debian trick to set the default ? or do I just change the symlink |
| 00:06.21 | abrotman | i haven't used apm since .. PII |
| 00:07.10 | Malagmyr | :( |
| 00:07.11 | pipeline | Malagmyr: disable acpi. |
| 00:07.25 | pipeline | rvsjoen: You can use the alternatives system to manage the symlinks. |
| 00:07.37 | Malagmyr | pipeline: already got "acpi=off" in lilo's append section. it'll crash badly otherwise |
| 00:07.49 | pipeline | dpkg: tell rvsjoen about alternatives |
| 00:08.22 | *** join/#debian towsonu2003 (n=mehmet@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:08.23 | *** join/#debian Heartsbane (n=ne1469@166.70.210.102) |
| 00:08.25 | herfer | anyone have a tip-of-the-tongue recommendation for blogging software on debian ? |
| 00:08.47 | herfer | (I know most blogging softs will run on all *nix, but in case there is one uniquely suited, or popular) |
| 00:08.59 | towsonu2003 | I have a real stupid question (pls don't flame me): how do I download the netinst iso for unstable? I can't locate it. |
| 00:09.10 | *** join/#debian jacek (n=jacek@host-195-206-113-245.telsat.wroc.pl) |
| 00:09.16 | peterS | towsonu2003: I don't think anyone is producing those. get the one for testing and upgrade afterward |
| 00:09.26 | rvsjoen | thanks |
| 00:09.28 | pipeline | towsonu2003: Hell, get sarge's netinstall and upgrade. |
| 00:09.37 | pipeline | herfer: They're all awful. |
| 00:09.49 | *** join/#debian itchi (n=itchi@d54C107E4.access.telenet.be) |
| 00:09.55 | *** join/#debian techrush (n=techrush@ip72-193-120-38.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 00:10.05 | herfer | hmmm |
| 00:10.27 | towsonu2003 | pipeline & peterS: argh, I deleted sarge to install unstable. ayay ohwell... thanks anyway :) |
| 00:12.34 | *** part/#debian towsonu2003 (n=mehmet@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:13.43 | *** join/#debian owdondek (n=owdondek@220.70.26.66) |
| 00:13.56 | peterS | delete an OS in order to upgrade? how un-debian. |
| 00:14.05 | Nibbier | hehehe :) |
| 00:15.28 | *** join/#debian Ono (n=debian@unaffiliated/siyahport) |
| 00:15.43 | Ono | hi |
| 00:15.47 | abrotman | peterS: i checked .. windows doens't have apt-get |
| 00:16.19 | Ono | i download a packages source from apt-get source |
| 00:16.29 | Ono | so where is osurce files ? :( |
| 00:16.29 | abrotman | yay! |
| 00:16.35 | abrotman | usually in $PWD |
| 00:19.48 | *** join/#debian yel (n=yes@xdsl-213-168-120-84.netcologne.de) |
| 00:20.24 | *** part/#debian Ono (n=debian@unaffiliated/siyahport) |
| 00:20.56 | itchi | In an script, how can i pipe to an calculation? Example upsc myups@localhost | grep "battery.runtime" | awk -F ": " '{print $2}' And the output of it is 2281 that i need to devide with 60 |
| 00:21.00 | *** join/#debian khext (n=khext@73-195.umostel.ru) |
| 00:21.01 | *** join/#debian KrteK (n=KrteK@dhcp-83-219-110-174.customers.tvtnet.ch) |
| 00:21.15 | itchi | Is that bc i need? |
| 00:21.33 | Nibbier | yep |
| 00:21.39 | Nibbier | echo 1*1 |bc |
| 00:21.42 | peterS | if you can assume a posix shell, just do $((2281/60)) |
| 00:22.10 | abrotman | assume! |
| 00:22.12 | peterS | or, n=2281; echo $((n/60)) |
| 00:22.35 | Nibbier | $n? |
| 00:22.44 | itchi | Ohyeaa, cooool :-) |
| 00:22.51 | peterS | Nibbier: n or $n |
| 00:22.57 | peterS | Nibbier: in that usage you may take your pick |
| 00:23.05 | Nibbier | ah, kk, thanks |
| 00:23.14 | itchi | Thanks, everyone :-) |
| 00:23.21 | peterS | try them both |
| 00:23.45 | *** part/#debian Steakk (i=jason@CPE-65-30-138-172.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 00:24.10 | itchi | Yup i test everything :-) So usefull the stuff we have here ;-) |
| 00:24.16 | rvsjoen | can I change a versions priority with update-alternatives ? |
| 00:24.37 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 00:24.52 | *** join/#debian Heartsbane (n=ne1469@166.70.210.102) |
| 00:25.22 | *** join/#debian bombero (n=bombero@e177172154.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 00:25.28 | rvsjoen | f.ex I have two ipython alternatives, 2.3 and 2.4, both are priority 30, can I change 2.4's priority to 40 ? |
| 00:27.30 | abrotman | eh .. i would think so .. if you do another --install ? |
| 00:28.29 | rvsjoen | i'll try that, just wondering if there was an option for it. I'm thinking about editing /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ipython too |
| 00:28.35 | *** join/#debian blackelf (n=blackelf@bte149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 00:30.21 | rvsjoen | that worked, thanks. now i'm going to bed. nite |
| 00:30.53 | itchi | hhhm i'm a bit wrong, i was thinking to somethings like upsc myups@localhost | grep "battery.runtime" | awk -F ": " '{print $2}' | echo $1/60 | bc -i |
| 00:30.57 | *** join/#debian Coweater (i=coweater@pool-71-96-152-248.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:31.09 | itchi | But that is not yet right. |
| 00:31.46 | itchi | After the awk, take an number of near 2281 that are echoed to $1?? |
| 00:32.20 | itchi | First time of playing with bc :-) |
| 00:32.42 | CompWizrd | itchi: nut can do all sorts of fun scripting, assuming you're trying to do what i think you are |
| 00:32.59 | peterS | itchi: why bc, rather than $(( )) ? it seems to me that $(( )) is a lot easier to use |
| 00:33.04 | *** join/#debian THX-1138 (n=bill@ip70-181-223-166.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 00:33.26 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-68-126-190-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:33.33 | itchi | CompWizrd: Yup, have see these tools, but want to parse a bit ;-) So that i can play a bit with awk and so. Realy funny :-) |
| 00:33.38 | CompWizrd | ahh, ok |
| 00:33.58 | CompWizrd | i finally got ticked off enough at nut to actual write some scripts to have it tell me when the power goes out via email |
| 00:34.12 | itchi | CompWizrd: Just buyed new stuff, you know, we need to play with it ;-) |
| 00:34.22 | THX-1138 | How do you enable three monitors? my bios only sees two. Anyone know the app or have a howto link |
| 00:34.30 | itchi | peterS: I not sure that my bash work fine with it |
| 00:34.48 | *** join/#debian mne (n=mne@chello080108001212.35.11.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 00:34.55 | peterS | itchi: you didn't try it, did you? |
| 00:34.56 | abrotman | THX-1138: ask #hardware |
| 00:35.10 | THX-1138 | abrotman - Many Thanks |
| 00:35.10 | CompWizrd | btw, upsc myups@localhost battery.runtime |
| 00:35.19 | CompWizrd | saves you having to grep it out |
| 00:35.20 | itchi | peterS: $ $((2281/60)) |
| 00:35.21 | itchi | bash: 38: command not found |
| 00:35.27 | itchi | peterS: Are i'm right? |
| 00:35.32 | *** part/#debian THX-1138 (n=bill@ip70-181-223-166.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 00:35.44 | peterS | itchi: yeah, you just tried to run a command called "38", because that is the answer to the math problem. |
| 00:36.02 | peterS | itchi: you should assign it to a variable or something, like minutes=$((seconds/60)) |
| 00:36.03 | itchi | peterS: hhhmm, wait |
| 00:36.05 | *** join/#debian jamesrk (n=Metaltro@66-53-228-19.red.clearwire-dns.net) |
| 00:36.11 | mne | hi. i just found out that in the debian libssl-dev package, there is no /usr/include/openssl/idea.h. however, in the original openssl-0.9.7e code (www.openssl.org) idea support is included. where can I find a libssl-dev package with idea support ? |
| 00:36.19 | itchi | peterS: okaaay, great great |
| 00:36.27 | *** join/#debian quebee (n=grouch@110.168.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:36.35 | CompWizrd | upsc myups@localhost battery.runtime will also just display the number, saves you your awk too :) |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | mne: which version of debian ? |
| 00:36.43 | mne | abrotman, unstable |
| 00:36.49 | *** join/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:37.02 | itchi | CompWizrd: I need to play, like i get not to go sleep :-p |
| 00:37.04 | abrotman | mne: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=idea.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 00:37.16 | *** join/#debian jcreigh (n=jason@72-160-58-88.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 00:37.56 | itchi | CompWizrd: I want to play a bit with the new stuff and the apps to parse a bit ;-) |
| 00:37.57 | mne | abrotman, i already had a look at that. there is just the crypto++ library, but i would need openssl with idea support. (thus libssl-dev) |
| 00:38.03 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (n=madmax@adsl-068-209-178-012.sip.ilm.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:38.25 | itchi | CompWizrd: Yeah, i know, it's a bit stupid what i do, but otherwise i never learn the other great stuff |
| 00:38.28 | abrotman | mne: so you're saying that ssl 9.7 has the file .. but debian's does not ? |
| 00:38.37 | mne | abrotman, right |
| 00:38.37 | abrotman | mne: have you checked the source package or the changelog ? |
| 00:39.10 | abrotman | mne: btw .. the one in sid is 9.8 |
| 00:39.13 | peterS | mne: you can't have IDEA in Debian. it is patented. |
| 00:39.14 | itchi | CompWizrd: But thanks for your suggestions. Is great you want to help ;-) |
| 00:39.38 | itchi | CompWizrd: Yeah, nut is very very great |
| 00:39.41 | peterS | mne: sorry. but on the bright side, there are lots of other, better, block ciphers that you _can_ have in Debian, like AES, blowfish, arc4, etc. |
| 00:39.47 | mne | abrotman, nope, i didn't. maybe the answer why that file isn't in there is in the changelog. you're right |
| 00:40.04 | abrotman | mne: it happens sometimes :) |
| 00:40.13 | peterS | mne: it's a patent issue - Debian purposely removed IDEA support from openssl to keep users out of trouble for violating patents |
| 00:41.24 | CompWizrd | echo $((`upsc myups@localhost battery.runtime `/60)) |
| 00:41.26 | mne | peterS, i was already thinking something like that :P so the only solution would be to use the original source code (with idea) and than make a .deb out of it. sure there are better block ciphers like idea, however I need it to compile some code I got |
| 00:41.57 | peterS | mne: yeah, well, the real solution is to phase out your use of IDEA in the first place. there are too many good free block ciphers out there to bother with the patented ones |
| 00:42.04 | Dewi | peterS: OpenSSL guys are pretty paranoid aren't they? |
| 00:42.13 | Dewi | peterS: normally more paranoid than debian I thought |
| 00:42.25 | Dewi | peterS: What do they say about IDEA and patents? |
| 00:42.29 | peterS | Dewi: the openssl source tarball has included options to compile out both RSA and IDEA for as long as I can remember |
| 00:42.33 | mne | peterS, abrotman, just out of interest. why is then an idea implementation in the crypto++ library which is included in debian. |
| 00:42.35 | *** join/#debian infernix (i=nix@spirit.infernix.net) |
| 00:42.37 | peterS | Dewi: mainly because of patent concerns |
| 00:42.47 | peterS | mne: nobody noticed it, I suppose |
| 00:42.49 | *** join/#debian owdondek_ (n=owdondek@220.70.26.82) |
| 00:43.16 | Dewi | peterS: interesting |
| 00:43.35 | abrotman | mne: ok .. uhm .. i htink the files are the same |
| 00:43.37 | *** join/#debian Malagmyr (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-3531.bb.online.no) |
| 00:43.43 | itchi | CompWizrd: No go away, it's great what you did, and a bit dumb of my part lol |
| 00:43.46 | *** join/#debian Malagmyr_ (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-3531.bb.online.no) |
| 00:43.48 | itchi | !beer CompWizrd |
| 00:43.52 | mne | peterS, lol. (as I said above, it's not the question which block cipher is better nor which block cipher i prefer to use. I ust got some code which just needs the idea crap :( ) |
| 00:43.57 | CHodapp | "adduser: `/usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/run/hal -g haldaemon -s /bin/false -u 105 haldaemon' returned error code 3. Exiting." . . . why is the config script trying to use 'haldaemon' as gid? |
| 00:44.00 | CompWizrd | i didn't know about the $(( )) thing, so i learned something new too |
| 00:44.09 | mne | abrotman, that would be funny ;) |
| 00:44.23 | itchi | CompWizrd: Just that i want to play a bit, need stupid examples to have an idea to play ;-) |
| 00:44.24 | CompWizrd | the bash manpage takes forever to read :) |
| 00:44.32 | Dewi | It sure does. |
| 00:44.34 | abrotman | mne: i'm trying ot figure it out |
| 00:44.40 | CHodapp | wait, why is useradd flipping out when it's given 'halhaemon' as gid? |
| 00:44.49 | peterS | CompWizrd: yes, but it's a _good_ manpage, it explains pretty much everything there is to know about posix shell syntax |
| 00:44.53 | Dewi | CompWizrd: the part I hate is trying to search for words like "if" and getting absolutely nowhere :) |
| 00:44.54 | abrotman | mne: /j #flood |
| 00:45.01 | CompWizrd | you can get a seconds out of it too, if you use % at some point to get the remainder of your division |
| 00:45.15 | CompWizrd | peterS: agreed, there's few things about bash i've needed google for |
| 00:45.26 | Malagmyr_ | Argh! I hate it when I sign up on a webpage and they mail me back the password in cleartext! I'm at a computer school! People sniff around! GRR! |
| 00:45.50 | Dewi | peterS: But maybe nobody wants to know that much about posix shells. I know I sleep worse at night since reading it. |
| 00:46.06 | peterS | Dewi: I for one want to know everything about posix shells |
| 00:46.21 | dendrite | Dewi: The bash man page rocks. I wish all documentation was as complete. |
| 00:46.21 | itchi | Dewi: Oh, i need to read it then ;-) |
| 00:46.23 | Dewi | peterS: Are you on any treatment for this? |
| 00:46.33 | abrotman | mne: so .. maybe file ab ug .. but i'm not sure i'ts "broken" |
| 00:46.43 | peterS | Dewi: I was but they gave up |
| 00:46.46 | itchi | It's already so late here an not yet in bed |
| 00:47.09 | mne | abrotman, i hope that "bug" report won't be used to remove the idea implementation from that crypto++ library as well :P |
| 00:47.17 | *** join/#debian dvs (n=cwv@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:47.47 | abrotman | mne: i just don't see a bug report related to it |
| 00:47.49 | EdLin | you know IDEA will be unincumbered in a very short time, IIRC less than a year |
| 00:47.51 | *** part/#debian jamesrk (n=Metaltro@66-53-228-19.red.clearwire-dns.net) |
| 00:47.57 | CHodapp | can someone try this command for me: /usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/run/hal -g haldaemon -s /bin/false -u 105 haldaemon .. . . the manpage of useradd says it should take a name for GID, but it won't |
| 00:47.57 | EdLin | s/in/en |
| 00:47.59 | abrotman | EdLin: not IKEA! |
| 00:48.20 | EdLin | abrotman: you mean IKEA(r) |
| 00:48.30 | abrotman | ARGH .. i want a RAW image! |
| 00:48.33 | mne | lol! |
| 00:48.35 | peterS | EdLin: according to teh pedia, not until 2010-2011 (in different countries) |
| 00:48.52 | CHodapp | where are scripts stored that dpkg --configure calls? |
| 00:48.58 | EdLin | peterS: my memory is faulty then |
| 00:49.05 | Dewi | The IKEA cipher... that's an awesome idea. It's like a cipher that hides what you're looking for in this enormous fucking maze-like store, and you're stuck in the damn place the entire day just to find that one thing, while your girlfriend looks at every goddamn table. |
| 00:49.14 | mne | thanks for helping out, guys |
| 00:49.32 | *** join/#debian tokil (n=rick@cpe-67-49-57-221.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:49.35 | Dewi | And lamp-shade....\ |
| 00:49.47 | Dewi | Now that's security through obscurity. |
| 00:49.50 | CompWizrd | security by obscurity! |
| 00:49.53 | CompWizrd | jinx! |
| 00:49.56 | dvs | The MS way! |
| 00:50.01 | CHodapp | no one? |
| 00:50.27 | CHodapp | anyone here even have HAL installed on etch? |
| 00:50.29 | *** join/#debian DrTux (n=lorenz@200.195.142.66) |
| 00:50.57 | sticky | Dewi: haha, that's happend to me (the IKEA) |
| 00:52.09 | Xorm | CHodapp, Isn't that like....critical or something? |
| 00:52.17 | Xorm | Hardware Abstraction Layer |
| 00:52.22 | Xorm | sound important to me =p |
| 00:52.25 | tokil | hi |
| 00:52.28 | Xorm | hi |
| 00:52.29 | peterS | it's not important |
| 00:52.31 | tokil | =) |
| 00:52.38 | CHodapp | I need it for something, and its configuration script is failing. |
| 00:52.44 | peterS | it's for bells and whistles and popups and animated paperclips |
| 00:52.52 | CHodapp | because useradd won't take a group name as gid... manpage says it should. |
| 00:54.02 | *** join/#debian Heartsbane (n=ne1469@166.70.210.102) |
| 00:54.10 | *** join/#debian SHS` (i=SHS_@phpbb/manager/SHS) |
| 00:55.13 | Dewi | peterS: OpenOffice needs that shit. I hope somebody's written some kind of plugin. |
| 00:55.39 | Dewi | Sorry, I mean OpenOffice.org |
| 00:55.41 | Dewi | :P |
| 00:55.46 | tokil | hmm after you install ndiswrapper do you have to reboot? |
| 00:56.05 | abrotman | you sohuld have ot load the module and carry on |
| 00:56.21 | dendrite | tokil: You shouldn't have to reboot. |
| 00:56.36 | tokil | dendrite: Do you run Ndis from command line or gui? |
| 00:57.00 | dendrite | tokil: I don't run it, sorry. |
| 00:57.08 | abrotman | tokil: try #ndiswrapper |
| 00:57.23 | abrotman | dendrite: give me a RAW image! |
| 00:57.30 | tokil | abrotman: ty |
| 00:57.52 | dendrite | abrotman: Sorry? |
| 00:58.05 | abrotman | dendrite: don't play stupid .. i want a RAW image :) |
| 00:58.17 | abrotman | google was no help |
| 00:58.28 | dendrite | abrotman: Sorry, mine are all half baked. |
| 00:58.33 | abrotman | dendrite: some cameras(mostly DSLRs) can save in RAW |
| 00:59.02 | pipeline | What do you do with a RAW *after* you save it ;) |
| 00:59.04 | dendrite | Hardware native, yeah... |
| 01:00.10 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.66) |
| 01:00.13 | *** join/#debian administrator (i=administ@nat/cisco/x-b98b7cd5e0346b05) |
| 01:00.19 | *** join/#debian khermans (i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-26b12c6ed0660009) |
| 01:00.20 | *** join/#debian Katai (n=xxx@unaffiliated/katai) |
| 01:00.28 | dendrite | abrotman: I guess I missed that fun. |
| 01:00.35 | abrotman | it's not fun :) |
| 01:00.38 | abrotman | well . it is for me :) |
| 01:00.44 | *** part/#debian Katai (n=xxx@unaffiliated/katai) |
| 01:02.29 | pickcoder | anyone know why webmin isn't in etch? |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | it sucks |
| 01:02.53 | abrotman | that's the non-technical summary :) |
| 01:02.56 | dvs | !abrotman++ |
| 01:02.57 | pickcoder | well I feel that way about other applications that are in the repo |
| 01:03.01 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 01:03.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 01:03.07 | abrotman | no really .. i wasn't kidding |
| 01:03.14 | *** join/#debian atula (n=NeoBREED@cpe-72-229-142-193.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:03.17 | pickcoder | me either |
| 01:03.29 | *** join/#debian domster (n=dominics@dominics.actrix.co.nz) |
| 01:03.37 | diesel | How do I search for a package that provides a binary or some other file? |
| 01:03.38 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 01:03.39 | dondelelcaro | at least for most of the other packages, there's a developer who is willing to deal with maintaining it |
| 01:03.44 | dondelelcaro | there's not one currently for webmin |
| 01:03.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell diesel -about search |
| 01:03.55 | pickcoder | I just want to see how they handled postfix |
| 01:04.08 | dondelelcaro | > Riverside, CA 92521 |
| 01:04.13 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's useful. |
| 01:04.22 | abrotman | only if i want a target! |
| 01:04.23 | dondelelcaro | (yes, that's the zip code of UCR, if anyone cares) |
| 01:04.27 | diesel | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 01:04.32 | Trek00 | byebye |
| 01:04.48 | abrotman | is that what the "r" stands for! jeez! |
| 01:04.56 | *** part/#debian Trek00 (n=trek@adsl-ull-212-233.42-151.net24.it) |
| 01:05.43 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: sneaky, isn't it? |
| 01:05.43 | pickcoder | dpkg-deb: `./webmin_1.300_all.deb' is not a debian format archive |
| 01:05.44 | abrotman | i wonder what the 'c' is for ... |
| 01:05.44 | pickcoder | heheh |
| 01:05.44 | pickcoder | ok.. they suck |
| 01:05.45 | abrotman | pickcoder: really .. webmin is bad ... |
| 01:05.47 | *** join/#debian Crock (n=Kyuss_Wr@longview-cuda1-g2-70-36-98-146.losaca.adelphia.net) |
| 01:06.00 | pickcoder | I really don't want to organize 525 parameters |
| 01:06.03 | pickcoder | :/ |
| 01:06.07 | abrotman | parameters? |
| 01:06.09 | dvs | "webmin is bad. Very bad. mkay" |
| 01:06.12 | pickcoder | for postfix main.cf |
| 01:06.26 | abrotman | organize? |
| 01:06.29 | abrotman | just put them in! |
| 01:06.35 | pickcoder | categorize |
| 01:06.36 | abrotman | use search to find them again |
| 01:06.37 | pickcoder | for a GUI tool |
| 01:06.46 | abrotman | are you writing hte GUI tool ? |
| 01:06.54 | Crock | Hi you two |
| 01:06.58 | pickcoder | no, a coder in #postfix has started on it |
| 01:07.11 | abrotman | why not just sort them alphabetically ? |
| 01:07.16 | pickcoder | hell I don't have time! |
| 01:07.25 | abrotman | cat main.cf | sort |
| 01:07.37 | kyuss | Ah, thats better |
| 01:07.50 | pickcoder | abrotman: it's more involved than that, when you want to display 525 options in a GUI configurator |
| 01:07.57 | pickcoder | display/organize/manage |
| 01:08.02 | abrotman | it is ? |
| 01:08.29 | itchi | How can i pipe somethings to an variable? I missing somethings. Take that i want to pipe the output of upsc myups@localhost | grep "battery.runtime" | $anvar |
| 01:08.30 | kyuss | speaking of displays, I still haven't figured out how to fix this silly 640x480 resolution |
| 01:08.37 | abrotman | kyuss: for real ? |
| 01:08.47 | abrotman | kyuss: wait .. that's better than 320x200 :) |
| 01:08.49 | pickcoder | abrotman: no.. it's not that complicated, if you're already a postfix guru |
| 01:08.50 | *** join/#debian atoz (n=use@221.122.45.1) |
| 01:08.56 | kyuss | For real yo, pickcoder was having me poke at it yesterday |
| 01:09.33 | itchi | I was thinking of upsc myups@localhost | grep "battery.runtime" | seconds$((awk -F ": " '{print $2}')) |
| 01:09.33 | dendrite | itchi: VAR = `process` |
| 01:09.33 | *** join/#debian Malagmyr (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-3531.bb.online.no) |
| 01:09.33 | dendrite | itchi: With backticks. |
| 01:09.38 | itchi | backticks? |
| 01:09.44 | CompWizrd | `, not ' |
| 01:09.45 | itchi | That ` ? |
| 01:09.50 | itchi | hhhhmm |
| 01:09.50 | kyuss | and while it is better, there is still a lot of functionality lost by running the X environ in 640x480 |
| 01:10.08 | itchi | That's why it is also on the keyboard :-p |
| 01:10.17 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@bb219-74-254-216.singnet.com.sg) |
| 01:10.35 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 01:10.37 | dendrite | itchi: Or var=$(process) |
| 01:12.18 | jcreigh | I'm on debian testing. I just installed xcdroast 0.98alpha15 and when I try to run it I get this error: "** (xcdroast:5715): WARNING **: Failed to access cdrecord. Please check the permissions and ownership of /usr/bin/cdrecord" /usr/bin/cdrecord is a symlink to /usr/bin/wodim, which is -rwxr-xr-x What am I doing wrong? |
| 01:12.55 | pickcoder | kyuss: that's not a laptop is it? |
| 01:13.08 | abrotman | jcreigh: etch has wodim |
| 01:13.37 | itchi | arg, i not understand :-/ |
| 01:13.50 | kyuss | Nope, desktop |
| 01:13.57 | kyuss | dell dimension 3000 |
| 01:14.03 | pickcoder | kyuss: did you try re-installing X? |
| 01:14.19 | kyuss | I can do that? |
| 01:14.24 | jcreigh | abrotman: Okay. I want to burn audio CDs from FLACs and mp3 on etch. What do you reccommend? |
| 01:14.33 | jcreigh | abrotman: (ie, instead of xcdroast) |
| 01:14.35 | pickcoder | kyuss: Linux was around long before Xfree86 was born.. |
| 01:14.38 | abrotman | jcreigh: matches! |
| 01:14.40 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@cm86.omega144.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 01:14.51 | kyuss | How would I do that then? |
| 01:15.04 | abrotman | jcreigh: oh .. the permissions are whacked |
| 01:15.11 | pickcoder | kyuss: use aptitude to remove and purge it |
| 01:15.12 | potnam | hi |
| 01:15.13 | abrotman | pickcoder: no |
| 01:15.17 | pickcoder | why not? |
| 01:15.20 | kyuss | and then? |
| 01:15.41 | itchi | Someone know on which channel i can ask for such questions? |
| 01:16.01 | jcreigh | abrotman: How so? 755 seems pretty normal for an executable... |
| 01:16.07 | potnam | how to create a bootable debian installation cd? i downloaded netinst.iso and burn a cd with it. what i get is a non-bootable cd with one .iso file. |
| 01:16.16 | abrotman | jcreigh: eh .. indeed |
| 01:16.21 | abrotman | pickcoder: xfree was first |
| 01:16.32 | pickcoder | on what? |
| 01:16.36 | itchi | potnam: Not drop that file on an cd. Its an cd image |
| 01:16.38 | pickcoder | Unix? |
| 01:16.48 | dvs | potnam: burn it as an image. |
| 01:16.51 | abrotman | pickcoder: eh .. nope . it was close .. but you're right |
| 01:17.09 | abrotman | pickcoder: but it was based on something which was around earlier |
| 01:17.11 | potnam | itchi: how? in xp, i choose 'Write files to cd'. |
| 01:17.27 | dvs | potnam: There must be a "burn image" option |
| 01:17.30 | CHodapp | dammit, apparently 'useradd' has a bug in it |
| 01:17.32 | kyuss | Ok |
| 01:17.41 | itchi | potnam: Which burn tool use you? |
| 01:17.53 | kyuss | So as root I need to go into aptitude and remove and purge X11 |
| 01:17.54 | potnam | dvs, checking up. |
| 01:18.11 | kyuss | and then once that is done I use it again to reinstall it? |
| 01:18.30 | kyuss | Right? |
| 01:18.33 | abrotman | jcreigh: weird |
| 01:18.46 | simonrvn | removing it is enough usually |
| 01:18.56 | simonrvn | kyuss: ^^ |
| 01:19.32 | kyuss | Ok |
| 01:19.35 | pickcoder | simonrvn: the X config has been manually hacked up |
| 01:19.35 | *** join/#debian tengulre11 (n=tengulre@222.90.66.156) |
| 01:19.56 | potnam | itchi, dvs, i am just using what is availble from xp. |
| 01:19.58 | jcreigh | abrotman: yeah. :) I wonder of xcdroast is checking permissions on the symlink...anyway, unless there's something really obvious I'm doing wrong, I'll try installed some other frontend and see if I have better luck. |
| 01:19.58 | simonrvn | oh, it's that, i thought it was the circular dep thing in sid |
| 01:20.10 | abrotman | jcreigh: use another burning tool! |
| 01:20.16 | dvs | potnam: Oh ok. XP probably doesn't have it. You have to use something like Nero. |
| 01:20.16 | simonrvn | kyuss: purge it, or use confmiss (/msg dpkg confmiss) |
| 01:20.55 | potnam | itch, dvs, ok, i have nero. will install it. so, choose 'burn image' fr nero? |
| 01:20.59 | *** join/#debian SHS` (i=SHS_@phpbb/manager/SHS) |
| 01:21.03 | dvs | yes |
| 01:21.08 | itchi | potnam: M$ not provide great tools, everythings need to be are buyed in that world :-/ |
| 01:21.21 | pickcoder | CHodapp: what kinda bug |
| 01:21.37 | potnam | itchi, yeh, linux is better than MS. Long live Linux! |
| 01:21.47 | CHodapp | http://www.archivesat.com/Debian_Bugs/thread1657259.htm |
| 01:21.50 | potnam | :D |
| 01:21.55 | itchi | ;-) |
| 01:22.10 | itchi | potnam: Btw, not forget the GNU before :-p |
| 01:22.17 | *** join/#debian aimtrainer (n=aimtrain@p54AFBF04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:22.24 | pickcoder | so.. RH broke it |
| 01:22.50 | abrotman | jcreigh: that's really weird |
| 01:22.51 | pickcoder | they still haven't come back to be on why sz doesn't act the same from 9.0 and AS4.4 |
| 01:22.56 | pickcoder | heh |
| 01:23.36 | *** join/#debian mo1991 (n=mo1991@adsl-70-224-162-127.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:23.46 | mo1991 | anyone know of a sarge backport for moto4lin? |
| 01:25.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 643] by debhelper |
| 01:25.13 | abrotman | helo moto! |
| 01:25.33 | dvs | abrotman: that's bad |
| 01:25.35 | *** join/#debian freakzoid0223 (n=matt@pool-141-158-224-76.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:25.39 | simonrvn | EHLO moto |
| 01:25.46 | simonrvn | that's worse |
| 01:25.48 | abrotman | dvs: you haven't seen the umbrella hat have you ? |
| 01:25.50 | pickcoder | mo1991: it's not listed on backports |
| 01:26.02 | dvs | thank goodness no |
| 01:26.20 | abrotman | i think simonrvn has |
| 01:26.31 | simonrvn | nope |
| 01:26.48 | abrotman | simonrvn: all that time in #-ot .. and you didn't see it ? |
| 01:26.52 | abrotman | did you see cakebutt ? |
| 01:26.57 | simonrvn | ooooh *that* |
| 01:27.13 | abrotman | simonrvn: http://www.mp3lyrics.org/d/donovan/i-love-my-shirt/ |
| 01:27.24 | abrotman | simonrvn: no .. there are two .. one is cakebutt .. other is umbrella hat |
| 01:27.31 | Xorm | heh |
| 01:27.36 | Xorm | Know what's classic? |
| 01:27.38 | simonrvn | i *have* seen umbrella hat, not cakebutt |
| 01:27.47 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 01:27.48 | Xorm | I was talking to this guy I know about Windows and instability |
| 01:28.04 | Xorm | and he was saying how Windows hasn't ever crashed on him |
| 01:28.10 | Xorm | And RIGHT THEN |
| 01:28.14 | Xorm | XP bombed on his laptop |
| 01:28.20 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 01:28.24 | abrotman | that's call 'irony' |
| 01:28.25 | predder | classic |
| 01:28.25 | dvs | Xorm: you're a curse! |
| 01:28.37 | mo1991 | pickcoder - can u help me make a backport? |
| 01:28.41 | simonrvn | that's also called murphy |
| 01:28.46 | *** join/#debian Thlayli (n=bigwig@p54976BB7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:28.49 | Xorm | mhm. |
| 01:29.21 | g333k | Hi I have a error installing open office, is there any issue? "ttf-opensymbol: error 4" |
| 01:29.43 | simonrvn | the font packaging is buggered. see BTS |
| 01:30.31 | g333k | simonrvn, See what? |
| 01:30.37 | simonrvn | !bts |
| 01:30.37 | dpkg | well, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 01:30.53 | simonrvn | dpkg: bit slow today eh |
| 01:31.02 | tengulre11 | what's the errors? klogd 1.4.1#17, log source = /proc/kmsg started. |
| 01:31.03 | tengulre11 | Cannot find map file. |
| 01:31.12 | tengulre11 | in /var/log/kern.log |
| 01:31.49 | *** join/#debian woodgrain (n=woodgrai@dsl081-161-237.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 01:32.16 | pickcoder | mo1991: if you want to install it, install it from source. |
| 01:32.20 | *** join/#debian JuNiOx (n=none@200-232-211-230.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 01:34.17 | g333k | what pkg has the windows fonts? |
| 01:34.24 | simonrvn | msttcorefonts |
| 01:34.37 | simonrvn | doesn't actually have them, it downloads them |
| 01:35.20 | mo1991 | pickcoder - is there a way to simply backport the testing .deb |
| 01:35.31 | mo1991 | without installing non sarge components from testing? |
| 01:35.55 | dendrite | !simple sid backport |
| 01:35.55 | dpkg | it has been said that simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 01:35.58 | abrotman | !tell |
| 01:35.59 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:36.20 | pickcoder | actually.. it's in testing |
| 01:36.23 | pickcoder | and sid |
| 01:36.29 | dendrite | mo1991: Just remember to remove the deb-src line of sid after you're done... |
| 01:36.30 | pickcoder | er.. etch and sid |
| 01:36.54 | *** join/#debian printk (n=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk) |
| 01:36.58 | *** join/#debian aGee (n=Steady@ip70-160-27-40.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 01:38.11 | g333k | simonrvn, Yeah I see, it is downloading the fonts |
| 01:38.12 | mo1991 | dendrite - will this method be sure to not install any binaries from the testing branch? |
| 01:38.20 | *** join/#debian mdo_ (n=13h7@p508A38EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:38.52 | pickcoder | mo1991: are you willing to run etch instead of sarge? |
| 01:38.59 | mo1991 | no want sarge |
| 01:39.09 | mo1991 | and don't want to install anything from etch |
| 01:39.24 | mo1991 | would like to make a .deb like the ones from backports.org |
| 01:39.35 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) |
| 01:39.56 | *** join/#debian jjazz_ (n=jjazz@cpe-66-108-8-144.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:40.40 | pickcoder | mo1991: you can get the lastest source from sid, if you want, using what dpkg said |
| 01:41.20 | pickcoder | mo1991: that will generate a .deb to install for sarge |
| 01:41.41 | *** join/#debian jond3rd (n=jond3rd@203.131.79.132) |
| 01:43.20 | *** join/#debian javamaniac (n=gerardo@unaffiliated/javamaniac) |
| 01:49.16 | *** join/#debian Alam_Debian (n=Alam@c-24-218-227-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:49.40 | *** join/#debian mikeX (n=mike@athedsl-132913.otenet.gr) |
| 01:50.19 | mikeX | hello, is there a way to search in name and description with aptitude (similar to apt-cache search)? |
| 01:50.31 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-254-62.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 01:50.37 | abrotman | aptitude search ? |
| 01:51.07 | mikeX | abrotman: I mean search in both name and description |
| 01:51.19 | mikeX | ~d only searches in description |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | can you do ~d and ~n or something ? |
| 01:52.26 | mikeX | well I guess I can duplicate the search terms, but I was looking for a better solution |
| 01:52.30 | dendrite | mikeX: Maybe aptitude search ~dpattern ~npattern |
| 01:52.31 | *** join/#debian lee_ (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) |
| 01:52.35 | mikeX | ~n~d didn't work |
| 01:52.50 | abrotman | i used a space .. i got way more stuff |
| 01:52.51 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@cm86.omega144.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 01:52.53 | abrotman | ~n ~d |
| 01:53.03 | abrotman | ythough .. it might have matched the space |
| 01:53.24 | *** join/#debian flashnet_ (i=flashnet@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl212-213-185-15-166.perspektivbredband.net) |
| 01:53.58 | mikeX | yeap |
| 01:54.08 | potnam | itchi, dvs, installed Nero but still can't burn a bootable cd. when i choose 'Disk Image', the netinst.iso does not appear to selection. |
| 01:54.12 | dendrite | ~npattern | ~dpattern |
| 01:54.13 | mikeX | I guess the best solution is a wrapper script : S |
| 01:54.21 | abrotman | Mikelevel: there must be a way |
| 01:54.47 | itchi | potnam: In the file box, look in that listbox |
| 01:54.53 | abrotman | i think dendrite had the winner orginally |
| 01:55.00 | mikeX | abrotman: you mean other than what dendrite described? |
| 01:55.03 | abrotman | ~d<term> ~n<term> |
| 01:55.20 | mikeX | yes, this works, as I said I was looking for a better solution : ) |
| 01:55.27 | mikeX | thanks |
| 01:55.31 | itchi | potnam: Or in the Filemanager, right click on the iso image, have you not an option to directly burn it with Nero? |
| 01:55.34 | dendrite | I don't know if (~n|~d)Pattern would work... |
| 01:55.56 | potnam | itchi: netinst.iso is not in the list, only dirs are. |
| 01:55.59 | abrotman | mikeX: that is a good solution! |
| 01:56.08 | mikeX | dendrite: nah |
| 01:56.19 | dendrite | abrotman: Can't fault someone for looking for a *better* solution though, eh? =) |
| 01:56.27 | *** join/#debian reanjr (n=reanjr@adsl-70-137-65-92.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:56.29 | mikeX | abrotman: well not so good, since I have to write the search term twice |
| 01:56.30 | nvz | well I got me another debian user :) woot |
| 01:56.37 | itchi | potnam: Can you make an screenshot to help a bit? It's long time ago to tell it so |
| 01:57.03 | abrotman | can't even type "is" :) |
| 01:57.12 | potnam | itchi: ok, let me try it fr Filemanager first. thks. |
| 01:57.14 | nvz | hopefully I wont have a hard time with her wireless card |
| 01:57.26 | abrotman | mikeX: the man page says to see the reference for better ways to searcdh |
| 01:57.48 | reanjr | anyone know if Wireless support is expanded in Etch? I'm having problems getting my network working (though I've heard it works out of the box in Ubuntu) and was wondering if trying etch might work out for me better... |
| 01:58.10 | *** join/#debian jsmidt (n=jsmidt@128.187.155.4) |
| 01:58.20 | jsmidt | I am trying to package with pbuilder, I need to include the original source. For dpkg-buildpackage I would pass it -sa. What do I do with pbuilder? |
| 01:58.20 | nvz | ubuntu comes in a box? |
| 01:58.31 | abrotman | crackerjack |
| 01:58.34 | nvz | heh |
| 01:58.38 | JuNiOx | my printer is working on linux (using cups), and i've installed samba too, but when i try add this one on windows (by LAN), it find the printer, but show the message: "access denied", does anyone can help me? |
| 01:58.39 | *** join/#debian hobbes- (n=cmrc@124.104.86.134) |
| 01:58.40 | reanjr | nvz: you know what I mean. And it does come in a Jewel case if you want :) |
| 01:58.42 | mikeX | abrotman: well didn't find anything there either |
| 01:58.43 | *** join/#debian printk (n=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk) |
| 01:58.45 | nvz | damn it now I am gonna have to eat this candy |
| 01:58.56 | *** join/#debian lucas (n=lucas___@147-131-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:58.59 | abrotman | mikeX: you could ask the debian-user list too |
| 01:59.31 | *** join/#debian Medmerd (n=Medmerd@S0106001310a00aa7.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 01:59.36 | nvz | reanjr: oh so you dont have to eat any candy? |
| 01:59.43 | *** join/#debian GoCooL (n=gokul@office4.tmcs.net) |
| 01:59.51 | mikeX | abrotman: ok, thanks again, dendrite too |
| 01:59.52 | *** part/#debian GoCooL (n=gokul@office4.tmcs.net) |
| 01:59.56 | reanjr | nvz: no, which is unfortunate |
| 02:00.08 | nvz | thats my new pitch I am gonna start pushing debian bundled with candy |
| 02:00.19 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) |
| 02:00.29 | nvz | it worked once already |
| 02:00.50 | jelly-home | I'd use Debian if it came with cookies. |
| 02:01.05 | abrotman | beer .. hello ? |
| 02:01.05 | nvz | I just pushed it with a twix.. |
| 02:01.06 | reanjr | nvz: That would be an interesting distro. Package it into a box of chocolates or something. Maybe get the credit card CD version and put it in something really small |
| 02:01.12 | nvz | a fun size at that |
| 02:01.18 | nvz | hook line and sinker |
| 02:01.21 | *** join/#debian concept10 (n=concept1@ppp-70-242-221-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 02:01.39 | *** join/#debian bws42 (n=not@2001:5c0:91d4:0:211:9ff:fed9:8510) |
| 02:01.44 | abrotman | argh .. noone can help me! |
| 02:01.47 | reanjr | oh, I got it. Make a pez dispenser/usb drive with Debian on it |
| 02:01.51 | nvz | yeah people think you are hittin on them if you give them a whole box |
| 02:01.57 | abrotman | reanjr: CD gun ? |
| 02:01.59 | Xorm | reanjr, that's a good idea |
| 02:02.00 | nvz | that can be awkward at times |
| 02:02.16 | nvz | the fun size twix just says mmmm debian |
| 02:02.33 | Xorm | hmmm... |
| 02:02.34 | nvz | it works I will soon have proof |
| 02:02.42 | *** join/#debian lowlevel (n=Stuart@CPE0050ba71c82f-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:02.57 | *** join/#debian XaMaD (n=madmax@81.56.241.229) |
| 02:03.02 | Xorm | what if you put premade distros on USB sticks in little plastic artifacts? |
| 02:03.11 | Xorm | Like, Fedora core on a little hat |
| 02:03.39 | nvz | maybe I'll throw in a snickers or a butterfinger when I actually get the laptop |
| 02:03.41 | mikeX | hhmm, actually what dendrite described is not what I am after either, since the ~n and ~d terms are ANDed aparently |
| 02:03.44 | EdLin | Xorm: if the hat matched fedora it would be too bug-infested to wear |
| 02:04.04 | Xorm | hahaha. |
| 02:04.05 | reanjr | Yea! USB Pez dispenser 512 MB: http://www.pezmp3.com/ |
| 02:04.13 | *** join/#debian protoloco (n=asd@cablelink39-98.intercable.net) |
| 02:04.13 | Xorm | ! |
| 02:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 650] by debhelper |
| 02:05.20 | reanjr | damn, I lied. It only LOOKS like a pez dispenser... |
| 02:05.44 | protoloco | What are the requirements for deploy a Mail server in some ccompany, includes security, anti-spam, antivirus.. what else ?? |
| 02:05.51 | *** part/#debian bws42 (n=not@2001:5c0:91d4:0:211:9ff:fed9:8510) |
| 02:05.58 | *** join/#debian dgp (i=dgp@sverige.freeshell.ORG) |
| 02:06.09 | Medmerd | Hello, I was wondering if someone wouldnt mind answering a question? |
| 02:06.36 | tengulre11 | why the machine sometime auto restart when I installed a new kernel? |
| 02:07.02 | nvz | protoloco: well it requires 1)some company 2)some computer and 3)some person with more of a clue of how to configure a mail server and install anti-spam and anti-virus software. |
| 02:07.03 | tengulre11 | and can not found anything in /var/log/kern.log? |
| 02:07.18 | mikeX | Medmerd: just ask |
| 02:07.24 | protoloco | nvz, ? |
| 02:07.26 | nvz | protoloco: or at least someone who can install debian choose mail server |
| 02:07.34 | protoloco | nvz, i use debian |
| 02:07.46 | concept10 | nvz, that was a great one (3) |
| 02:07.48 | Medmerd | This is honestly the first time i have ever use irc, so if there is some where i should look first i will |
| 02:07.56 | nvz | me too what a coincidence |
| 02:08.03 | protoloco | but i dont know what GOOD packages for anti-spam, anti-virus in linux |
| 02:08.09 | reanjr | Medmerd, there are 634 people here, just ask and see what happens |
| 02:08.12 | mikeX | Medmerd: read the topic carefully |
| 02:08.19 | protoloco | i have configured mail servers |
| 02:08.22 | protoloco | but not with anti-spam, |
| 02:08.23 | Kevin` | spamassassin is good for spam |
| 02:08.25 | protoloco | not with anti-virus |
| 02:08.44 | dgp | Is there a way to use ssh to tunnel all traffic going out from this box to another? or should I just setup a vpn? |
| 02:08.48 | Kevin` | if I ever get viruses, which is rare, I collect them, heh |
| 02:08.57 | concept10 | protoloco, there are many articles out there describing setups |
| 02:08.57 | abrotman | protoloco: clamav |
| 02:09.06 | nvz | plush microbes are cool |
| 02:09.07 | Kevin` | dgp you can have ssh provide a socks proxy, but vpn is probably better |
| 02:09.21 | dgp | Kevin`: can't get the socks proxy to work :( |
| 02:09.26 | protoloco | abrotman, clamav can be as good as comercial ones ? |
| 02:09.31 | Medmerd | Having troubles installing my Nic is a sis 900 and there seams to be lots of people having troubles with it. But i cannot find any help though google and none of my linux friends know debian very well |
| 02:09.33 | reanjr | nvz: yeah, I like ebola the best. It's really cute |
| 02:09.41 | Kevin` | ssh user@host -D 1234 ? |
| 02:09.49 | Khellendros | night |
| 02:09.49 | nvz | ;) |
| 02:09.53 | abrotman | protoloco: nfc .. viruses are for windows users . .but it seems to be what most use |
| 02:10.05 | dgp | Kevin`: that works, getting software to use it is another matter |
| 02:10.38 | protoloco | abrotman, the company in all their workstations use WIndows xp.. |
| 02:10.59 | abrotman | so look at clamav |
| 02:11.02 | protoloco | but i will install a Mail server with Debian. |
| 02:11.03 | Kevin` | dgp there's a few little programs out there that LD_PRELOAD a little piece of code to use socks for all connections |
| 02:11.03 | abrotman | !clamav |
| 02:11.03 | dpkg | [clamav] a widely used free(GPL/FLOSS) antivirus software toolkit for Unix-like operating systems. It is mainly used with a mail exchange server as a server-side email virus scanner. apt-get install avscan; for a gtk+ gui. ClamAV can be configured to automatically update its list of virus definitions via the Internet. Both ClamAV itself and the updates are made available free of charge. http://www.clamav.net |
| 02:11.18 | Xorm | Is it hard to install video card drivers? |
| 02:11.22 | Xorm | As in the nvidia driver set |
| 02:11.24 | protoloco | thanks. |
| 02:11.33 | Kevin` | Xorm no |
| 02:11.35 | Kevin` | imo |
| 02:11.55 | dgp | Kevin`: I think I'm going to go the von route, the machine on the other side is running debian :) |
| 02:12.15 | Kevin` | dgp I recommend openvpn, nice product |
| 02:12.35 | Kevin` | if you want to be hackish, vde (vitrual something ethernet) is useful for lotsa stuff |
| 02:12.55 | reanjr | Xorm: I had problems the first time. (I assume you are referring to the official Nvidia drivers, not the open source ones). The second time it was really easy, not sure why. |
| 02:12.57 | *** join/#debian win_x_prts_ (n=win_x_pr@ip70-171-63-240.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 02:13.12 | Xorm | huh. |
| 02:13.31 | Xorm | I just install from the .run? |
| 02:14.43 | reanjr | Xorm: I really don't remember, it's been a while |
| 02:14.52 | Xorm | ooooo. |
| 02:14.59 | Xorm | It's telling me to kill X. |
| 02:15.07 | Xorm | Makes sense. |
| 02:15.15 | Xorm | Anything I need to know before I do this? |
| 02:15.28 | reanjr | I think (when it worked out right), I just ran the binary (or script or whatever) and had to run a couple more commands (found in the README) to get things up and running |
| 02:15.28 | Xorm | 20 secs |
| 02:15.29 | Kevin` | how to use irc from a console would be good to know |
| 02:15.36 | Xorm | I have xchat-text |
| 02:15.41 | Xorm | and if that doesn't work, I can use telnet |
| 02:15.49 | Kevin` | k :) |
| 02:15.54 | Xorm | kbai |
| 02:16.07 | reanjr | Xorm: if it does mess something up, it should be easy to get back to previous working condition |
| 02:17.01 | *** join/#debian kleberfortaleza (n=kleber@200-158-202-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 02:17.32 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=root@adsl-68-126-190-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 02:17.38 | *** part/#debian kleberfortaleza (n=kleber@200-158-202-25.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 02:18.18 | Medmerd | Who ever it was that told me to look in the log file are you still here? |
| 02:18.22 | *** part/#debian Xorm (n=root@adsl-68-126-190-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 02:18.42 | *** part/#debian caverdude (n=javacave@24.144.5.230) |
| 02:18.46 | *** join/#debian atula (n=NeoBREED@cpe-72-229-142-193.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:18.59 | abrotman | Medmerd: log file for what |
| 02:19.18 | *** join/#debian aimtrainer (n=aimtrain@p54AF9E1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:20.03 | *** join/#debian opqdonut_ (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.customer.academica.fi) |
| 02:20.25 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 02:22.31 | *** part/#debian Medmerd (n=Medmerd@S0106001310a00aa7.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 02:22.50 | *** join/#debian Medmerd (n=Medmerd@S0106001310a00aa7.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 02:25.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 640] by debhelper |
| 02:26.16 | *** join/#debian freakzoid0223 (n=matt@pool-141-158-224-76.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:26.25 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 02:27.03 | *** join/#debian konfuzed (n=Konf@H211.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca) |
| 02:28.24 | *** join/#debian Unryu (n=Shigun@h62.228.40.162.ip.alltel.net) |
| 02:29.19 | Unryu | Can I get some -quick- assistance? I'm trying to install Debian, using a Test CD, however when it gets to Configuring Apt, it says Scanning the Mirror, and stops at 50% |
| 02:29.26 | Unryu | this is through 3 different mirrors |
| 02:31.47 | litage | in a debian mirror, what are *.orig.tar.gz and *.diff.gz files for? |
| 02:32.23 | *** join/#debian Zeit|awy (n=wurscht@p54A7A29D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:33.11 | *** join/#debian metaphaze_ (n=metaphaz@216-161-100-119.roch.qwest.net) |
| 02:33.14 | abrotman | litage: the original source .. and the diff to make the debian pckage |
| 02:34.11 | nvz | Unryu: wtf is a Test CD? |
| 02:34.38 | Unryu | nvs: Debian Net Install, Test |
| 02:34.40 | abrotman | nvz: why are you in WV again ? |
| 02:34.50 | abrotman | Unryu: Testing ... |
| 02:34.54 | nvz | um, its where I live |
| 02:35.01 | abrotman | you didn't a month ago! |
| 02:35.06 | nvz | b.s. |
| 02:35.08 | abrotman | stop moving around! |
| 02:35.15 | nvz | I've been here for like 6 months |
| 02:35.18 | nvz | same place |
| 02:35.21 | abrotman | you'll be back in texas soon! |
| 02:35.23 | Unryu | abrotman: Test, Testing, the basis of it is the same, and I have seen it referenced as just 'test' for awhile |
| 02:35.31 | nvz | abrotman: dont say that |
| 02:35.33 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 02:35.41 | litage | thanks abrotman |
| 02:36.06 | abrotman | i haven't seen anyone refer to it as 'test' |
| 02:36.21 | nvz | abrotman: you make it sound like you are some bounty hunter tracking me down who watched too many episodes of walker texas ranger |
| 02:36.39 | abrotman | nvz: i've been tracking you for years! |
| 02:36.53 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well you havent been moving very fast |
| 02:37.00 | nvz | abrotman: I dont move around that much |
| 02:37.17 | nvz | an ant could about follow me around |
| 02:37.22 | abrotman | nvz: i got confused by the yinzer talk .. ended up in alaska for a while |
| 02:37.27 | nvz | heh |
| 02:37.45 | *** join/#debian Derailed (n=tom@mrworry.otago.ac.nz) |
| 02:37.52 | Unryu | abrotman: I fail to see how debating test versus testing aids me. |
| 02:38.10 | abrotman | Unryu: it helps people understand what you're talking about |
| 02:38.14 | Derailed | hey all, sorry for the stupid question, I'm just trying to work out what config file to mess with to force debconf to only ask critical questions (or no questions at all) |
| 02:38.27 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 02:38.33 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 02:38.35 | nvz | Derailed: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 02:38.48 | EdLin | Derailed: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 02:38.51 | Derailed | cool -- can *that* be done without interactivity as well? |
| 02:39.04 | nvz | Derailed: if need be |
| 02:39.31 | Unryu | abrotman: was it not understood awhile ago, before the debate? I am still stuck at scanning the mirror though |
| 02:39.45 | abrotman | apparently it wasn't ... |
| 02:39.45 | nvz | Derailed: debconf has readline, curses, gtk and qt interfaces depending on how its configured.. and if it cant use one it falls back on the next |
| 02:39.47 | Derailed | basically, I'm chrooting into a debian-esque system and installing stuff, and I don't want it to ask me questions :-) |
| 02:39.53 | abrotman | Unryu: do you even have an IP address ? |
| 02:40.19 | Unryu | abrotman: You mean is my network up and working? Yes. |
| 02:40.40 | abrotman | and you're using http mirrors ? |
| 02:41.10 | Unryu | I have gone through ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.debian.org, and ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu |
| 02:42.37 | *** join/#debian dewey (n=dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:42.52 | Unryu | I know its not a basis of being unable to connect to said mirrors, cause I could ping them all, with ftp.us.debian.org being the fastest, and the gatech.edu being the slowest, by around 30ms |
| 02:48.07 | abrotman | how long have you waited? |
| 02:48.12 | abrotman | Unryu: can we see your sources ? |
| 02:48.42 | Unryu | abrotman: No, you cant. This is all being done on my computer, which is still trying to install. AFAIK, I have no way to access them |
| 02:48.57 | Unryu | And, about 10 minutes, right now |
| 02:49.48 | abrotman | Unryu: oh .. just use only the CD .. the install can finish without http sources |
| 02:49.51 | *** join/#debian metaphaze_ (n=metaphaz@216-161-100-119.roch.qwest.net) |
| 02:49.59 | *** join/#debian nty (n=nty@p548716BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:50.11 | Unryu | abrotman: Its a net install cd |
| 02:51.22 | abrotman | i know |
| 02:51.27 | abrotman | you can still finish without net |
| 02:51.34 | abrotman | once it restarts .. you can try again |
| 02:52.17 | Unryu | I dont believe you can finish without the net. Plus the fact that I think grub is downloaded and installed during the install |
| 02:52.43 | Derailed | nvz, thanks for your help so far -- I just need to work out how to get those settings into debconf as a line in the shellscript. any ideas? |
| 02:53.07 | *** join/#debian mo1991 (n=mo1991@adsl-70-224-162-127.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:55.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 634] by debhelper |
| 02:56.44 | *** join/#debian nickm_ (n=nickm@12.170.205.77) |
| 02:58.53 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 03:00.10 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.82) |
| 03:00.57 | *** join/#debian nickm_ (n=nickm@12.170.205.77) |
| 03:01.54 | *** join/#debian cb (n=cb@pD9E03889.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:02.25 | stew | for some reason my new computer recognizes two buttons on my mouse that were previously both recognized as additional middle buttons. now i have a button 8 and a button 9 and no idea which i should use them for |
| 03:03.20 | *** join/#debian jcwong (n=catalyst@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:daba:ae8e) |
| 03:03.21 | *** join/#debian Naz (n=Nazxul@c-67-166-61-132.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:03.30 | *** join/#debian kyuss (n=kyuss@longview-cuda1-g2-70-36-98-146.losaca.adelphia.net) |
| 03:03.48 | *** join/#debian tod_ (n=tod@i538747E7.versanet.de) |
| 03:03.52 | kyuss | pickcoder, abrotman: reinstalled X |
| 03:03.54 | *** join/#debian MetaPhaze_laptop (n=metaphaz@216-161-100-119.roch.qwest.net) |
| 03:03.55 | *** join/#debian lavi (n=lavi@221.226.103.140) |
| 03:04.51 | *** part/#debian lavi (n=lavi@221.226.103.140) |
| 03:06.56 | *** join/#debian ahmad (n=ahmad@62.116.121.242) |
| 03:08.43 | *** join/#debian fisknils (i=fisknils@c-ba6a72d5.017-17-6b73642.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:10.05 | *** join/#debian kill4killin (n=T@168.28.136.12) |
| 03:10.17 | *** join/#debian Bombo_ (n=bombo@dslb-084-060-207-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:11.18 | kill4killin | what is the smallest incarnation of debian available that still has apt-get? |
| 03:13.13 | *** join/#debian greenleaf (n=brian@c-69-242-185-73.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 03:13.15 | nvz | Derailed: nope |
| 03:13.16 | *** join/#debian brothers (n=brothers@user-0ce2keo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:13.32 | nvz | Derailed: I got plenty of ideas.. none that involve you though |
| 03:13.40 | kyuss | still stuck in 640x480 |
| 03:14.09 | nvz | kill4killin: base install |
| 03:14.10 | Derailed | nvz, it's okay, I found an ugly way to do it, thanks though! |
| 03:14.41 | kill4killin | nvz: i need just basic functions so that i can run my game server |
| 03:14.50 | *** part/#debian ahmad (n=ahmad@62.116.121.242) |
| 03:14.52 | *** join/#debian mick_linux (n=mick@clamwin/admin/mickhome) |
| 03:14.53 | nvz | It's a pleasure not thingking about you, dont mention it ;P |
| 03:15.04 | mick_linux | anyone know how to concatinate .movs ? |
| 03:15.08 | nvz | kill4killin: base-install + game server |
| 03:15.09 | *** part/#debian flashnet_ (i=flashnet@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl212-213-185-15-166.perspektivbredband.net) |
| 03:15.13 | mick_linux | i tried cat (to no availe) |
| 03:15.27 | mick_linux | cat file1.mov >> file2.mov |
| 03:15.49 | nvz | heh |
| 03:15.51 | mick_linux | are there any commandline apps for that sort of thing |
| 03:16.01 | nvz | dont you hate people whole split up pr0m |
| 03:16.04 | nvz | pr0n even |
| 03:16.08 | mick_linux | i've seen ways to concate postscript, pdf... |
| 03:16.24 | greenleaf | I need some assistance upgrading a sarge install from the included 2.4.27 kernel to 2.6.8. I got the source for new kernel, configured it, and did the steps to compile it, but I get a kernel panic when trying to boot to the new kernel |
| 03:16.39 | mick_linux | nvz, not pr0n - but yes that is annoying ;) |
| 03:16.55 | nvz | oh shes about to.. wait.. gotta open another file |
| 03:17.00 | greenleaf | my previous attemps at getting help in another channel lead me to the initrd.img file, which I'm not sure i generated correctly |
| 03:17.02 | *** join/#debian syork (n=syork@69-165-108-140.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 03:17.10 | nvz | good time to grab a snickers |
| 03:17.13 | nvz | intermission |
| 03:17.28 | mick_linux | rotfl |
| 03:17.30 | syork | How can I get xorg in Debian Sarge? |
| 03:17.59 | *** join/#debian ttyfscker (n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker) |
| 03:18.00 | syork | Xfree86's i810 driver is too old to work with my Intel 915GM video. |
| 03:18.55 | *** join/#debian OmnipotentEntity (n=omnipote@ip68-111-120-123.pn.at.cox.net) |
| 03:19.10 | *** part/#debian OmnipotentEntity (n=omnipote@ip68-111-120-123.pn.at.cox.net) |
| 03:20.14 | nvz | not cumming anywhere for awhile, grab a snickers |
| 03:20.27 | syork | backports isn't working for me. |
| 03:20.37 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 03:20.57 | syork | I tried, but it says it needs a newer xserver-common. |
| 03:21.04 | syork | So it won't let xorg install. |
| 03:21.13 | reanjr | syork, I recently did this, lemme check real quick |
| 03:21.28 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 03:21.36 | reanjr | ok, you've got the sources.list updated I assume? |
| 03:21.58 | syork | Yeah. |
| 03:22.00 | *** join/#debian p3rti (n=perti@190.13.20.26) |
| 03:22.25 | syork | I have used backports for other things like Firefox, which was fine. |
| 03:22.32 | reanjr | and you tried the pinning method but it says that common is not the right version? |
| 03:22.34 | *** join/#debian ttyfscker (n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker) |
| 03:23.02 | syork | Hmm, I didn't do that. |
| 03:23.09 | syork | I can use that for xserver-common? |
| 03:23.18 | reanjr | did you try apt-get -t sarge-backports install xorg-server (or whatever the package is called). This should use backports for all the dependencies as well? |
| 03:23.30 | *** join/#debian user00265 (n=ryuji@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265) |
| 03:23.54 | *** join/#debian EdLin (n=chacha@as5300-6.216-194-21-245.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 03:24.06 | reanjr | pinning didn't work for me, so I'd suggest the -t sarge-backports thing instead |
| 03:24.36 | syork | Okay, that works. |
| 03:24.38 | syork | Thanks. |
| 03:24.47 | syork | -t worked. |
| 03:25.03 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (n=Rusty1@cpe-72-226-105-88.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:25.19 | EdLin | !test |
| 03:25.20 | dpkg | No, edlin, you're not online any more. |
| 03:25.25 | EdLin | :-) |
| 03:25.32 | syork | !test |
| 03:25.32 | dpkg | No, syork, you're not online any more. |
| 03:25.32 | reanjr | cool beans |
| 03:25.35 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-68-126-190-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 03:25.45 | Xorm | =| |
| 03:25.45 | syork | !mock syork |
| 03:25.54 | Xorm | O_o |
| 03:26.05 | syork | Mmmm... cheese and cabbage... |
| 03:26.26 | Xorm | Interesting combination. |
| 03:26.33 | Xorm | anyway |
| 03:26.39 | Xorm | I tried installing the nvidia drivers |
| 03:26.45 | Xorm | from apt-get and some other stuff |
| 03:26.59 | Xorm | and the "nvidia" module doesn't load properly T_T |
| 03:27.46 | *** join/#debian unreal__ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 03:28.15 | *** join/#debian ttyfscker (n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker) |
| 03:29.06 | *** join/#debian Alam_Debian (n=Alam@c-24-218-227-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 03:29.12 | *** part/#debian mick_linux (n=mick@clamwin/admin/mickhome) |
| 03:30.16 | Xorm | http://rafb.net/paste/results/kfOOTm91.html |
| 03:30.46 | Xorm | Using instructions from here. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 03:31.14 | *** join/#debian tok1l (n=rick@cpe-67-49-57-221.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:33.44 | *** join/#debian Danamania (n=Snak@070.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au) |
| 03:34.18 | reanjr | Xorm, are you running on the 2.4 kernel, or 2.6? I think I found that upgrading to 2.6 first made things work for me, but I don't remember for sure |
| 03:34.43 | *** join/#debian flashnet (i=flashnet@Darkstar.AceShells.com) |
| 03:34.43 | Xorm | 2.6.8-3-k7. |
| 03:34.49 | Xorm | uname: invalid option -- k |
| 03:34.50 | Xorm | Try `uname --help' for more information. |
| 03:34.51 | Xorm | Linux Helios 2.6.8-3-k7 #1 Sat Jul 15 09:58:38 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 03:35.10 | *** join/#debian muaddib (n=root@c-67-176-192-93.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:35.24 | Xorm | ohnoes! |
| 03:35.31 | Xorm | muaddib is logged in as root! |
| 03:35.47 | reanjr | he is the Kwizats Haderach |
| 03:36.04 | Xorm | dude |
| 03:36.14 | EdLin | he is the 0wned haderech |
| 03:36.16 | Xorm | I LOVE APT |
| 03:36.28 | Xorm | I just installed a system monitor in 4 seconds |
| 03:36.33 | EdLin | !tell muaddib -about root |
| 03:36.34 | Xorm | <3 <3 <3 |
| 03:36.47 | Xorm | lulz. |
| 03:36.52 | reanjr | Xorm: I think that's pretty much a universal feeling among Debian users... |
| 03:36.57 | *** join/#debian muaddib (n=craig@c-67-176-192-93.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:37.00 | Xorm | yeah. |
| 03:37.09 | Xorm | Hey! |
| 03:37.36 | Xorm | muaddib doesn't have a username of root, so we don't know if he's running as superuser! |
| 03:37.54 | reanjr | Xorm whayt is the command you are running when you get the uname error? |
| 03:38.01 | Xorm | uhh |
| 03:38.04 | Xorm | I did -k by accident |
| 03:38.15 | muaddib | Xorm: I forgot that I was root when running my irc client |
| 03:38.16 | reanjr | oh, ok i was wondering where that came from |
| 03:38.31 | muaddib | Any recommendations on parition a disk that is 900GB |
| 03:38.37 | Xorm | O_O_O |
| 03:38.45 | reanjr | One partition is my suggestion :) |
| 03:39.01 | Xorm | Is it a spanned disk? |
| 03:39.42 | *** join/#debian s1xtw0 (n=s1xtw0@24-158-45-138.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 03:39.58 | muaddib | Technically the disk are spanned mut controllered by a raid controller |
| 03:40.08 | Xorm | hmm. |
| 03:40.41 | *** join/#debian peerless (n=peerless@203-217-74-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:40.44 | *** join/#debian Alien|Freak (n=sfaci2@71.194.76.10) |
| 03:41.53 | muaddib | Xorm: any thoughts |
| 03:42.06 | reanjr | What linux IRC clients are insecure in such a way that logging in as root will get you owned? |
| 03:42.13 | Xorm | What's the target usage of the disk? |
| 03:42.16 | Xorm | I mean |
| 03:42.29 | Xorm | What is it going to be used for? |
| 03:42.32 | Xorm | >_< |
| 03:42.33 | reanjr | muaddib: I presume this is a dat or file server of some sort |
| 03:43.06 | muaddib | Xorm: Secondary storage, temporarily downloads, archiving of data that will be read periodically(one a week) |
| 03:43.16 | jcreigh | reanjr: It's still Not A Good Idea. |
| 03:43.17 | muaddib | reanjr: yes |
| 03:43.19 | EdLin | reanjr: all it takes is one vulnerability. |
| 03:43.23 | *** join/#debian tenzing_ (n=tenzin@d220-238-31-55.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:43.26 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 03:43.30 | tok1l | will 'grep (filename)' work in the command line or do i need to write the syntax differently? |
| 03:43.36 | EdLin | reanjr: then that vulnerability changes from remote user to remote root |
| 03:43.42 | Xorm | grep [thing] | ls |
| 03:43.59 | Xorm | looks for the file in the directory listing. |
| 03:44.02 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua_@122.0.229.217) |
| 03:44.09 | Xorm | Or are you looking for something else? |
| 03:44.11 | *** join/#debian cob (n=asdf@ip70-177-69-88.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:44.12 | reanjr | Just curious, I'm using Opera for IRC; I highly doubt I would find a problem with it, but I never run as root anyway... |
| 03:44.17 | EdLin | reanjr: plus it's always a bad idea to log in as root. If entering passwords bothers you, configure sudo not to need them |
| 03:44.21 | tok1l | Xorm: does that only grep that folder only? |
| 03:44.24 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 03:44.25 | Xorm | yeah. |
| 03:44.39 | tok1l | Xorm: I'm looking for 'modprobe.conf' |
| 03:44.40 | EdLin | reanjr: Opera the browser I know has had exploits in the past |
| 03:44.52 | reanjr | muaddib: is it internet facing? |
| 03:45.05 | muaddib | reanjr: yes(dual homed) |
| 03:45.07 | Xorm | do "whereis modprobe.conf" |
| 03:45.16 | EdLin | reanjr: it's secure only in comparison to the competition |
| 03:45.23 | tok1l | Xorm: thanks |
| 03:45.34 | Xorm | oh... |
| 03:45.42 | Xorm | That may not be right. |
| 03:45.49 | *** join/#debian deja-vu (n=he@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-42-122.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 03:46.00 | reanjr | EdLin: really, i've only ever heard of a DoS for Opera. Of course, ANYTHING can have an exploit, just saying... |
| 03:46.32 | tok1l | Xorm: yeah i can't find it still |
| 03:46.37 | EdLin | reanjr: the vulnerability was a long time ago, and I don't remember what it was. |
| 03:46.39 | Xorm | =| |
| 03:47.24 | tok1l | Xorm: Any suggetsions? |
| 03:47.27 | Xorm | I dunno. |
| 03:47.32 | Xorm | I'm not good at finding stuff either. |
| 03:47.36 | muaddib | reanjr: any other thoughts |
| 03:47.42 | muaddib | Xorm: any other thoughts |
| 03:47.48 | EdLin | reanjr: all popular IRC clients have had a vulnerability in some time of their lives. the one I'm using now, IRSSI, although its considered secure by design once had an exploit |
| 03:48.27 | reanjr | muaddib: what filesystem? Ext3? |
| 03:48.31 | Xorm | Did telnet have an vuln? =p |
| 03:48.44 | Xorm | waaaitx0r. |
| 03:48.45 | EdLin | Xorm: telnet *is* a vulnerability |
| 03:48.49 | Xorm | hahaha. |
| 03:49.02 | muaddib | reanjr: Yes |
| 03:49.12 | reanjr | muaddib, the reason I ask is some filesystems are better as some things than others. For instance, Reiser is bad with large files and throughput |
| 03:49.18 | ChrisWhite | all someone has to do is be able to sniff a route your packet is passing through and they've got your pass |
| 03:49.22 | Xorm | EdLin, meaning running a telnet server or a telnet client is vuln? |
| 03:49.23 | ChrisWhite | since telnet is plain text |
| 03:49.24 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.66.106.154) |
| 03:49.45 | Xorm | ChrisWhite, *IRC* is plain-text. |
| 03:49.53 | ChrisWhite | actually |
| 03:49.55 | EdLin | Xorm: what would you call a program that let others sniff your password? |
| 03:50.07 | Xorm | hmm. |
| 03:50.12 | Xorm | Do you use SSL? |
| 03:50.20 | Xorm | I don't O_o |
| 03:50.41 | reanjr | muaddib: honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Go with something that is logical to your use. For instance, you might have a partition for movies that would be really big |
| 03:50.45 | muaddib | reanjr: Average size file will be 3megs in size... I don't for see majority of files being larger than 20 megs.. based on my research ext3 should be able to handle that I have considered XFS, but I think i've determined I don't need it |
| 03:51.07 | reanjr | Yeah ext3 is decent at just about everything. A good, all-around fs |
| 03:51.08 | muaddib | reanjr: so you recommend one large partition |
| 03:51.25 | EdLin | muaddib: if you use XFS, you need an uninteruptable power supply. XFS is very agressive in write caching. |
| 03:51.25 | danieldg | IRC isn't as security-critical as telnet... |
| 03:51.41 | reanjr | muaddib, unless you have a reason not to, yeah. If you really want to get into security you could partition it so that certain partitions are loaded read only |
| 03:51.45 | Xorm | Why does Debian use XF86Config-4? |
| 03:51.52 | Xorm | why not just xorg.conf? =\ |
| 03:52.09 | Xorm | That has had me confused a couple times so far. |
| 03:52.10 | EdLin | Xorm: because Debian Sarge uses xfree86 4.3, not Xorg |
| 03:52.18 | *** join/#debian win_x_prts (n=win_x_pr@ip70-171-63-240.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 03:52.27 | Xorm | erm, that makes sense, I suppose. |
| 03:52.29 | reanjr | muaddib, since you are using RAID, integrity shouldn't be an issue (or are you using just RAID 0?) |
| 03:53.12 | tok1l | has anyone worked with ndiswrapper before? |
| 03:53.24 | *** join/#debian inuyasharenegade (i=UPP@c-68-81-7-199.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 03:53.52 | *** join/#debian khext_ (n=khext@73-195.umostel.ru) |
| 03:53.53 | tok1l | I'm asking 'cause no one in ndiswrapper is responding |
| 03:53.53 | Xorm | tok1l, yeah? |
| 03:53.55 | wols | it's still the same question |
| 03:53.58 | zinx | tok1l: sounds like a poll to me |
| 03:54.05 | sonofapreacher | do fonts only come with X11? |
| 03:54.18 | tok1l | I'm having an issue with loading up a pcmcia wifi card, I'm tyring to use ndiswrapper to load up the driver. |
| 03:54.23 | wols | tok1l: you do NOT want to know if anyone does work with it |
| 03:54.34 | *** join/#debian towsonu2003 (n=mehmet@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:54.34 | tok1l | wols: I dont understand. |
| 03:54.34 | Xorm | wols? |
| 03:54.42 | wols | !anyone |
| 03:54.42 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:54.48 | *** join/#debian b0xy|MacPro_ (n=pixelbak@h103.87.141.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 03:54.59 | Xorm | ah. |
| 03:55.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 642] by debhelper |
| 03:55.01 | tok1l | i know wols :P |
| 03:55.25 | Rusty1 | muaddib: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/ , worth a read |
| 03:55.43 | *** join/#debian flaco (n=flaco@pc-213-54.nunoa.pc.metropolis-inter.com) |
| 03:55.54 | Xorm | scheiß, this is a big channel. |
| 03:55.59 | *** join/#debian etzerd (n=etzerd@ool-4579312b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:56.01 | flaco | hi.. anyone has installed the ipw2200-ap driver? |
| 03:56.03 | etzerd | hello room |
| 03:56.12 | towsonu2003 | I just installed etch base, and trying to upgrade to sid.. but can't find what to write to sources.list... I tried replacing all etch's with sid, but it cannot find the web address... any help? any pointers? thanks :) |
| 03:56.14 | Xorm | flaco, no. |
| 03:56.16 | etzerd | guys I have issues |
| 03:56.17 | wols | !anyone |
| 03:56.17 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:56.20 | reanjr | flaco: I did. Not successfully though. Still working on that. :) |
| 03:56.21 | tok1l | lol |
| 03:56.30 | Xorm | lulz. |
| 03:56.53 | wols | towsonu2003: what is your sources.list entry for sid? |
| 03:57.01 | EdLin | !room |
| 03:57.02 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 03:57.02 | flaco | reanjr: what thing dont work? |
| 03:57.11 | tok1l | does kwifimanager work good? |
| 03:57.15 | etzerd | Last night I installed the testing version, it tooks over 6 hours to install from the server mirror. At the end it gave me an error about xserver. |
| 03:57.30 | reanjr | flaco: honestly, I haven't really looked into it, just tried yesterday and haven't had internet since. |
| 03:57.38 | etzerd | it seems like Debian doesn't support NVIDIa video card. |
| 03:57.48 | wols | etzerd: wrong |
| 03:57.53 | danieldg | dpkg: nvidia |
| 03:57.53 | dpkg | [nvidia] DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 03:57.57 | flaco | reanjr: mmmm... ok.. I will try now... |
| 03:58.00 | *** join/#debian icwiener_ (n=fs@p54842128.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:58.04 | towsonu2003 | wols: it's http://security.debian.or/ sid/updates main (for both deb and deb-src) |
| 03:58.08 | danieldg | etzerd: I use nvidia just fine on debian |
| 03:58.11 | etzerd | prove me wols |
| 03:58.15 | *** join/#debian HLM (n=geek@S0106006067664bde.no.shawcable.net) |
| 03:58.17 | towsonu2003 | wols: or should have been org |
| 03:58.21 | etzerd | how come i have that error |
| 03:58.51 | etzerd | since during the installation process debian never asked me about the video card untill completed |
| 03:58.52 | wols | towsonu2003: there are no security updates for sid. shouldn't you know that by now? and security.debian.org is NO general repository. only security updates are in there. e.g. you can't isntall kde from it |
| 03:58.57 | Unryu | etzerd: Proof? The fact that I can play games via Cedega on my 6800 Ultra with frame rates of 80-100. Good? |
| 03:58.58 | danieldg | etzerd: maybe you haven't done something right? that's not a very specific error |
| 03:59.06 | icwiener_ | There is security support for sid? |
| 03:59.07 | etzerd | after I restart then boom problem |
| 03:59.16 | wols | !tell etzerd about drxx |
| 03:59.21 | wols | icwiener_: no |
| 03:59.29 | Xorm | brb |
| 03:59.37 | reanjr | etzerd: you can also try: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 04:00.00 | etzerd | I even tried logon as root and tried to reconfigure xserver it doesn't work |
| 04:00.07 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 04:00.08 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 04:00.09 | towsonu2003 | wols: wols: uhm.. oops :) ok then the stupid question follows: what's the regular adress? www.debian.org/bla ? |
| 04:00.10 | icwiener_ | wols: I asked because towsonu2003 gave the entry for that just when I entered. |
| 04:00.15 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-68-126-190-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 04:00.22 | wols | towsonu2003: www.debian.org/mirrors |
| 04:00.26 | Xorm | IT WORKED |
| 04:00.28 | Xorm | BAHAHAHHAHA |
| 04:00.32 | Xorm | <3 <3 <3 |
| 04:00.46 | towsonu2003 | wols: thanks |
| 04:01.02 | *** join/#debian zeeble (n=sp@unaffiliated/zeeble) |
| 04:01.28 | zeeble | Can someone point me to the download link for the new debian netinstaller with a GUI installer? |
| 04:01.32 | wols | etzerd: what is your currently selected driver for the card? |
| 04:02.01 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) |
| 04:02.01 | wols | !tell zeeble about d-i |
| 04:02.08 | *** part/#debian towsonu2003 (n=mehmet@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:02.42 | etzerd | wols: as you may know the testing etch version is still unstable. the installation never give me a selection for the video card driver |
| 04:03.27 | wols | etzerd: now you are outright lying |
| 04:03.31 | wols | have you even tried to install X? |
| 04:03.56 | Xorm | eh? |
| 04:04.35 | etzerd | and also I tried to install Sage version 3.1 the installation give me the option of VESA which give me only 800X600 where I have a 23" whide screen flat panel that can support up to 1360X768 |
| 04:05.01 | etzerd | whols seriously, I have no reason to lie! |
| 04:05.09 | Unryu | etzerd: have you ever done any configurations to your X configuration? |
| 04:05.13 | wols | etzerd: have you even tried to install X? |
| 04:05.19 | etzerd | did you ever install the testing version wols? |
| 04:05.24 | Unryu | etzerd: er, modifications to your X configuration, that is |
| 04:05.32 | wols | etzerd: answer my question dammit |
| 04:05.32 | *** join/#debian bier__ (n=bier@pD954E166.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:05.48 | etzerd | what is your question wols? |
| 04:05.52 | Unryu | lol |
| 04:05.56 | wols | 06:03 < wols> have you even tried to install X? |
| 04:06.02 | wols | if you have tried: how? |
| 04:06.18 | etzerd | Unryu: I never modified my X configuration |
| 04:06.20 | wols | note that a etch netinst does not install X |
| 04:06.29 | wols | etzerd: then you haven't installed X |
| 04:06.41 | Unryu | etzerd: see wols' statement. |
| 04:06.51 | wols | etzerd: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 04:06.57 | wols | come back when you've done that |
| 04:06.59 | etzerd | but after the installation I tried that command: /etc/modules && reconfigure xserver-xfree86 it doesn't work. |
| 04:07.11 | wols | !moron etzerd |
| 04:07.12 | dpkg | etzerd: You are moron #74 |
| 04:07.25 | flaco | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:07.27 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.34 | Unryu | Even if you had installed it, in order to get such a non-standard resolution, you will have to modify your X configuration |
| 04:07.35 | wols | flaco: he runs testing. no xfree86 |
| 04:07.42 | flaco | ok |
| 04:08.01 | etzerd | ok guys since you called me moron I accept it. I'm new to Debian. |
| 04:08.14 | EdLin | the name "etzerd" looks a lot like "etztard", doesn't it |
| 04:08.15 | wols | has nothing to do with being new |
| 04:08.19 | etzerd | now tell me the command to reconfigure the xserver after the installation? |
| 04:08.34 | *** join/#debian sdsd (n=mark@202.164.131.23) |
| 04:08.39 | flaco | nobody is moron... just "initial ignorant" |
| 04:08.41 | wols | etzerd: you have not installed it yet. if you had there would be a configure screen shown! |
| 04:08.42 | danieldg | etzerd: you'll probably need to edit xorg.conf manually, as others have stated, becuase the resolution isn't standard |
| 04:08.45 | wols | and I told you already |
| 04:08.48 | wols | !tell etzerd about drxx |
| 04:09.03 | danieldg | of course make sure you have it installed... |
| 04:09.22 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 04:09.29 | danieldg | everyone here seems to think you don't |
| 04:09.51 | wols | etzerd: do you have a working network on your debian box currently? |
| 04:09.55 | EdLin | etzerd: # apt-get install x-window-system-core aterm fvwm-crystal |
| 04:10.14 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@pool-71-248-220-241.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:10.15 | wols | etzerd: he's not the type for fvwm I'd think |
| 04:10.21 | secher | Heyas all. There is a guy, white, dreadlocked, musician, programmer, philosopher and iirc physicist, sort of a modern renissance man. Can anyone remember his name? I have an idea of what it may be, but I don't want to pollute any guesses/vague memories you may have. |
| 04:10.30 | etzerd | danieldg: I edit xorg.conf and change the resolution to 1280X768 still not working |
| 04:10.39 | etzerd | let me write that down EdLin |
| 04:10.43 | danieldg | etzerd: first - does it work with 800x600? |
| 04:10.46 | etzerd | I will reinstall it again |
| 04:10.52 | EdLin | wols: fvwm-crystal is a lot more pretty than fvwm out of the box... Of course, maybe he's a GNOME/KDE type... |
| 04:10.53 | wols | secher: lanier. but this is #debian. debian questions |
| 04:10.57 | etzerd | nop |
| 04:11.08 | *** part/#debian icwiener_ (n=fs@p54842128.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:11.11 | etzerd | Sarge version does work with 800X600 |
| 04:11.27 | secher | wols: yes, but no other place would know. And it is a Debian question, in a round about way. Thanks much man. |
| 04:11.29 | wols | etzerd: you can't just "reinstall" IF it's already installed. apt won't do it |
| 04:11.32 | etzerd | I mean Sage version 3.1 |
| 04:11.41 | EdLin | etzerd: reinstalling again will *not* add X |
| 04:11.42 | *** part/#debian HLM (n=geek@S0106006067664bde.no.shawcable.net) |
| 04:11.44 | danieldg | etzerd: ok... does it work with any resolution? or just not work at all? |
| 04:11.57 | etzerd | it doesn't work at all |
| 04:12.03 | wols | danieldg: he ran vesa for some reason. possibly cause xfree didn't know about his card |
| 04:12.11 | danieldg | yeah, I saw that |
| 04:12.15 | wols | etzerd: what happens if you run "startx" ? |
| 04:12.23 | *** join/#debian evilmnky (n=evilmnky@216-106-185-169.ds1-static.mia1.net.ststelecom.com) |
| 04:12.24 | etzerd | at this present moment I install Suse, but I wont to use Debian instead |
| 04:12.52 | wols | etzerd: your actions contradict your words.... |
| 04:12.55 | danieldg | have you had linux working on this box before? |
| 04:12.56 | etzerd | wols when I type start X the screen display a bunch of @@@@@@@@@@ |
| 04:13.17 | disasm | etzerd: start X or startx? |
| 04:13.17 | Xorm | start X |
| 04:13.20 | *** join/#debian Makenai (n=pawel@ip68-224-128-125.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 04:13.22 | Xorm | nothing happened to me =| |
| 04:13.25 | *** part/#debian flaco (n=flaco@pc-213-54.nunoa.pc.metropolis-inter.com) |
| 04:13.33 | wols | etzerd: startx != start X !!! |
| 04:13.39 | Xorm | lulz. |
| 04:13.40 | wols | where do you get all those commands from? |
| 04:14.12 | EdLin | I suspect etzerd either isn't good at listening or he's dyslexic. In either case he's not ready for Debian |
| 04:14.14 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 04:14.16 | zeeble | The new debian netinstaller has a GTK installer right? I just want to check out what it looks like. |
| 04:14.26 | jetscreamer | /o\ |
| 04:14.29 | danieldg | etzerd: anyway... you could look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for an error message |
| 04:14.37 | zeeble | disasm: startx |
| 04:14.43 | zeeble | wtf is start X? |
| 04:14.46 | Xorm | ... |
| 04:14.50 | jetscreamer | etzerd needs debianlove |
| 04:14.51 | wols | danieldg: won't be any use since he hasn't probably ever started X correctly |
| 04:14.51 | Xorm | startx starts the X server |
| 04:14.59 | wols | zeeble: something etzerd made up with his brain |
| 04:15.00 | Xorm | and brings you GUI goodness |
| 04:15.07 | Xorm | oh |
| 04:15.08 | Xorm | that |
| 04:15.10 | zeeble | wols oh ok. |
| 04:15.10 | Xorm | lulz. |
| 04:15.11 | disasm | zeeble: yeah, i know ;-) I was responding to etzerd |
| 04:15.12 | danieldg | wols: he's probably started it incorrectly, at minimum by the init script(s) |
| 04:15.16 | jetscreamer | !comfort etzerd |
| 04:15.17 | dpkg | There, there, etzerd. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:15.32 | wols | danieldg: there are no X init scripts. all there could be is a dm |
| 04:15.53 | wols | danieldg: it simply doesn't make any sense at all |
| 04:15.57 | danieldg | ah, yeah, you're right... I'm just used to kdm starting up X |
| 04:16.42 | danieldg | which most people would call an X init script, if you don't get too nitpicky |
| 04:17.20 | wols | danieldg: which would be very confusing since there already is an xinit |
| 04:17.36 | etzerd | OK guys I'm going to uninstall Suse and retry Debian again so next time none of you won't call me a moron |
| 04:17.53 | etzerd | This is the first Distro I have problem install |
| 04:18.01 | Unryu | etzerd: If you are like me |
| 04:18.02 | wols | etzerd: I didn't call you a moron cause you installed suse (well I was tempted) I called you that because of waht you did |
| 04:18.10 | danieldg | etzerd: does suse use xorg? |
| 04:18.19 | Unryu | etzerd: er. If you are like me, and jump around distros, get used to it. Archlinux gave me 3 coasters before I got a cd that would burn |
| 04:18.23 | etzerd | sure suse does |
| 04:18.29 | *** join/#debian Yp3rite (n=XXX@214.98.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 04:18.30 | wols | etzerd: please read the manual before you try it again. and use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". as root. to configure X |
| 04:18.46 | danieldg | etzerd: if so, try grabbing its xorg.conf to use in debian |
| 04:18.47 | disasm | etzerd: did you try Xorg -configure (and depending on your mouse, after that command you may have to edit the mouse dev line) |
| 04:18.49 | etzerd | wols: ? |
| 04:18.55 | etzerd | how do you log on as root |
| 04:19.02 | Unryu | <.< |
| 04:19.04 | Unryu | oh my |
| 04:19.08 | EdLin | etzerd: su |
| 04:19.14 | danieldg | etzerd: that's only if the normal configure stuff that everyone else is suggesting don't work... |
| 04:19.17 | etzerd | at the prompt I type su and enter the password I have permission denied |
| 04:19.23 | wols | etzerd: while installing, you set a root password. type as normal user "su"<enter>. then enter that root password |
| 04:19.38 | wols | disasm: please don't give people such bad advice. thank you |
| 04:19.40 | etzerd | I did that |
| 04:19.43 | danieldg | etzerd: maybe 'sudo bash' if you've set up sudo |
| 04:20.20 | EdLin | danieldg: no need for all that typing when there's "sudo -s" |
| 04:20.32 | Kevin` | if you forgot the root password you can reset it by booting with a kernel arg like init=/bin/sh |
| 04:20.40 | etzerd | Ok guys thanks for your help let me try again |
| 04:20.59 | etzerd | do you thing I should install the testing version or Sarge? |
| 04:21.15 | Kevin` | etch, testing |
| 04:21.24 | *** join/#debian zeeble_ (n=sp@ns2.irisindia.net) |
| 04:21.25 | EdLin | etzerd: try Sarge first |
| 04:21.36 | EdLin | etzerd: you can always dist-upgrade to etch |
| 04:21.39 | danieldg | I'd try testing. Unstable won't work for nvidia right now, since Xorg 7.1 is coming through |
| 04:22.20 | EdLin | danieldg: but there aren't and never will be sid CDs, so that doesn't answer him... |
| 04:23.03 | etzerd | Edlin when I install Sarge the video option that i have is VESA which won't go beyond 800X600 |
| 04:23.32 | EdLin | etzerd: use "nv" |
| 04:23.50 | Unryu | etzerd: From there you have to install the nvidia drivers and use them, or use the nv drivers |
| 04:24.07 | etzerd | Wow I don't thing nv is at the option let me try again. |
| 04:24.28 | etzerd | Thans guy fare enough I'll brb |
| 04:24.36 | etzerd | let me install it again |
| 04:24.40 | Unryu | etzerd: If at the very least, you can just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and replace the driver option of "vesa" with "nv" |
| 04:25.04 | etzerd | great unryu |
| 04:33.16 | *** join/#debian berto- (i=jgwknis@71-92-200-228.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:33.31 | berto- | hi everyone. does anyone know if it's possible to put the drives in a mdadm RAID array to sleep? |
| 04:34.05 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@bb219-74-237-168.singnet.com.sg) |
| 04:34.30 | itchi | potnam: And burned the iso? |
| 04:35.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 635] by debhelper |
| 04:35.15 | itchi | Crazy guys :-p |
| 04:35.42 | *** part/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:35.54 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.46) |
| 04:35.55 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@bb219-75-112-153.singnet.com.sg) |
| 04:36.33 | EdLin | danieldg: according to the wiki's xstrikeforce page, 7.1 has been transitioned except the input drivers which are forthcoming and judging from my dist-upgrade are at least mostly there now. |
| 04:38.04 | *** join/#debian Niriven (i=gonephis@c-69-242-2-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:38.16 | Unryu | EdLin: Not sure if you would know, but has there been a package for the nvidia drivers which are compatible with the latest kernel pushed out for testing? I know when I last had Deb on, about 2 or 3 weeks ago, I had to include some unstable repos in my apt.conf, because there were no nvidia drivers for the latest kernel available to testing |
| 04:38.18 | Niriven | Anone have experiance with ATI drivers? I cant seem to get them in no matter what i do. Im running sarge. |
| 04:38.18 | *** join/#debian guru (n=joe@pdpc/supporter/active/guru) |
| 04:38.45 | *** join/#debian dos000 (n=dos000@i216-58-14-210.cybersurf.com) |
| 04:39.00 | Unryu | Niriven: Probably not the answer you would want, but I would say go with a Nvidia. While, yes, the ATI cards can work in Linux, their support is very, very poor |
| 04:39.07 | secher | xview or gqview? |
| 04:39.26 | Niriven | Unryu: Yes i go nvidia. But its a friends machine im trying to setup. |
| 04:39.44 | Niriven | Im just having a headache getting these drivers installed. |
| 04:39.55 | Unryu | Niriven: Ah, yes, I understand that. Had the same ordeal with a friend of mine. He is now looking for an Nvidia card |
| 04:40.06 | EdLin | Unryu: I'm not running testing, so I don't know |
| 04:40.37 | *** join/#debian dansushi (n=dan@c-66-30-178-166.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 04:40.40 | danieldg | EdLin: nvidia-glx is still conflicting last I checked |
| 04:41.46 | danieldg | EdLin: oh, never mind... |
| 04:41.51 | Niriven | So noone here with ati experiance? |
| 04:41.57 | *** join/#debian potnam (n=chatzill@cm86.omega144.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 04:42.06 | wols | Niriven: apt-cache search fglrx |
| 04:42.17 | Niriven | wols: Yes.. So? |
| 04:42.23 | potnam | itchi: thks, burned the cd and installed debian base system. |
| 04:42.28 | *** join/#debian peerless (n=peerless@203-217-74-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:42.35 | wols | Niriven: if it's not in there: not supported by debian |
| 04:42.50 | itchi | potnam: You are Welcome ;-) |
| 04:42.54 | Niriven | I'm not asking it to be supported by debian, im just looking for some help. |
| 04:43.21 | wols | Niriven: this is a Debian support channel... so if it's not supported by debian.... |
| 04:43.25 | wols | !tai |
| 04:43.27 | wols | !ati |
| 04:43.27 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for sid see <fglrx>, or http://kaerpf.ethz.ch/pub/debian-local/share/kernel/fglrx-driver, or for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz |
| 04:44.02 | wols | Niriven: and if you do seek help with ati drivers. you do a poor job of it |
| 04:44.29 | *** join/#debian smellydog (n=shaof@211.160.165.186) |
| 04:44.40 | potnam | i have installed a debian base system. i want to now build up a minimum system which can support wlan based on my Belkin card using rt2500 chipset. i am now running xp. which would be the easiest way to do it? |
| 04:44.42 | smellydog | hi |
| 04:44.57 | wols | potnam: custom cd |
| 04:45.22 | wols | if you mean directly install with rt2500 support |
| 04:45.30 | potnam | wols: read about that, it seems more complicated than a full install. |
| 04:45.34 | Niriven | wols: Well i thank you for that, but, i've been a this for hours. Im sorry. Im more experience with nvidia installations, i realize its not supported by debian, and i realize this is the support channel. But that doesnt mean others have experiacne with a relaed unsupported topic. |
| 04:45.37 | wols | potnam: of course it is |
| 04:45.53 | wols | !tell Niriven about anyone |
| 04:45.54 | *** join/#debian wtyler (n=wtyler@207.55.119.216) |
| 04:46.01 | potnam | wols: in that case i might as do well do a full install. |
| 04:46.05 | wols | you still haven't stated your problem.... as I said: piss poor job |
| 04:46.22 | wols | so how could anyone help you? |
| 04:46.26 | *** join/#debian moparisthebest (n=mopar@cpe-24-210-246-235.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 04:46.38 | wols | and: the fglrx install is pretty much the same as nvidia installer. just crappier |
| 04:46.54 | moparisthebest | if I want to run a single command on startup, do I just put in in a file named anything and stick it in the init.d folder? |
| 04:46.58 | Niriven | wols: Because i dont know the problem? I get failed errors. I trace it back to the fact it cant find header makefiles, which i dont think there should be. |
| 04:47.00 | moparisthebest | or do I have to do somthing else? |
| 04:47.32 | wols | have you installed kernel headers? where does the fglrx installer look for them? |
| 04:47.47 | *** join/#debian DaBlade (n=linuxp2p@unaffiliated/dablade) |
| 04:47.51 | wols | and wth are "header makefiles"? |
| 04:47.55 | Niriven | wols: /usr/src/linux, and the headers are installed for the version of the kernel im using |
| 04:48.12 | wols | Niriven: what is the EXACT error. paste it somewhere |
| 04:48.14 | potnam | is it possible to apt install packages to xp, burn them to cd and install them in my debian base system? |
| 04:48.25 | Niriven | wols: Uhh, i nkow there shouldnt be makefiles for the headers, didnt you see? the make.sh is saying its missing headers in the header directories, and i siad it made no sense |
| 04:48.27 | *** join/#debian olijoh (n=olijoh@200.114.10.176) |
| 04:48.35 | p3rti | hi, i have a problem with my video card.. its a ati x1600 |
| 04:48.52 | wols | potnam: not install. apz-zip |
| 04:48.59 | smellydog | i am tring to install debian on my vmware by floppy,but i got some error of "The module 3c503 failed to load"? |
| 04:49.14 | wols | smellydog: why can't you use a netinst iso? |
| 04:49.26 | p3rti | i have configure it good on the xorg.conf.. but when i try to startup the X server i get some error like (EE) fglrx(0): === [R200PreInitDAL] === DALEnableInstance failed |
| 04:49.27 | wols | smellydog: and why would it load a 3c503? |
| 04:50.03 | Niriven | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.03 | Niriven | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.05 | p3rti | X Window System Version 7.0.0 |
| 04:50.14 | Niriven | Ack. That was supposed to be one line. Anyway, thats where it errors out. |
| 04:50.49 | p3rti | Niriven, that it's for me? |
| 04:51.03 | Niriven | p3: Having the same problem? |
| 04:51.19 | wols | Niriven: that is no error message |
| 04:51.19 | *** join/#debian potnam_ (n=chatzill@bb219-74-237-168.singnet.com.sg) |
| 04:51.22 | *** join/#debian Yperite (n=XXX@214.98.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 04:51.32 | p3rti | Niriven, i have a problem.. about loadin X server with fglrx driver |
| 04:51.34 | Niriven | wols: Well, its a log. Said i said, there is no error message. |
| 04:51.44 | p3rti | Niriven, seem like driver problems.. with Debian SID |
| 04:52.04 | smellydog | wols: the install program give me a net card list to chose, but i can only read the last few lines cause can't scrolling screen |
| 04:52.32 | wols | smellydog: learn what's the proper card to choose and not use one blindly.... |
| 04:52.46 | p3rti | Niriven, [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.28.8 [Aug 17 2006] on minor 0 |
| 04:52.53 | Niriven | This may be a relitely stupid question.. but is the latest stable tree sarge? |
| 04:52.56 | p3rti | Niriven, the module it's loaded good |
| 04:52.59 | wols | Niriven: yes |
| 04:53.05 | Niriven | mmhmm |
| 04:53.07 | p3rti | Niriven, the Device section on xorg.conf are right too |
| 04:53.11 | *** join/#debian holond (n=holond@bb219-74-237-168.singnet.com.sg) |
| 04:53.16 | p3rti | i dont know why it doesnt startup |
| 04:53.20 | holond | hi |
| 04:53.26 | p3rti | (EE) fglrx(0): === [R200PreInitDAL] === DALEnableInstance failed |
| 04:53.32 | Niriven | p3: I dont know man, i cant even get the module installed. How'd you install it? Maybe i can help after i get mine installed and set it up in xorg.conf |
| 04:53.45 | *** join/#debian reebd (n=reebd@ip68-228-34-182.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:53.48 | smellydog | vmware's net card always being pcnet32 |
| 04:53.54 | p3rti | Niriven, very simple.. with aptitude |
| 04:54.06 | Niriven | p3: Hmm, are you running sarge? |
| 04:54.10 | smellydog | wols:vmware's net card always being pcnet32 |
| 04:54.24 | Niriven | p3: Its not in my listing in sarge, should i goto unfree? |
| 04:54.26 | reebd | I have dual core Pentium D server. Do I need to recompile the stock kernel to take full advantage of the CPU? |
| 04:55.07 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@dslb-084-058-145-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:55.16 | wols | Niriven: it's not in sarge, no matter where. it is in testing |
| 04:55.16 | *** join/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:55.26 | p3rti | Niriven, sid. |
| 04:55.30 | Niriven | wol: Oh. |
| 04:56.11 | *** join/#debian master_o1_master (n=master_o@p85.212.133.151.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 04:56.49 | *** join/#debian solca (n=solca@206.113.227.138) |
| 04:57.03 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 04:59.06 | *** join/#debian sstainlesmice (n=nimda@61-56-189-250.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 04:59.08 | reebd | I have dual core Pentium D server. Do I need to recompile the stock kernel to take full advantage of the CPU? |
| 04:59.25 | Niriven | reebd: SMP probably |
| 04:59.50 | wols | reebd: get a SMP kernel. no need to compile yourself |
| 04:59.52 | Niriven | reebd: Im not sure how dual core works, but i think it works like an SMP machine. |
| 04:59.55 | wols | 686-SMP |
| 05:00.03 | reebd | yep. ty. |
| 05:00.15 | holond | does debian support dual-core cpu? |
| 05:00.23 | sstainlesmice | can gcc do the best on p-d now? |
| 05:00.28 | Niriven | its not debian, its linux, and the kernel does |
| 05:00.33 | Niriven | smp |
| 05:00.40 | Niriven | debian supports smp kernels |
| 05:00.46 | wols | of course it supports it |
| 05:00.48 | sstainlesmice | smp = dual-core? |
| 05:00.51 | Xorm | ? duh |
| 05:00.54 | Niriven | yes |
| 05:00.54 | Xorm | sstainlesmice, no |
| 05:00.58 | Xorm | not specifically |
| 05:01.01 | sstainlesmice | ... |
| 05:01.01 | Niriven | dual core is just two cores in one |
| 05:01.05 | wols | smellydog: SMP = SMP. dualcore is a form of SMP too |
| 05:01.10 | Xorm | Anything with multiple processors is SMP |
| 05:01.11 | Niriven | its still two processors, you need some sorta smp handling |
| 05:01.13 | holond | what's a core? |
| 05:01.20 | Xorm | a processing unit. |
| 05:01.30 | Xorm | Some CPU packages have two CPU cores in one package. |
| 05:01.46 | Xorm | example: Intel Core Duo |
| 05:01.54 | reebd | Is Pentium D 930 replacement for Xeon? |
| 05:01.56 | holond | dual-core is not multiprocessor, a core and basically the execution unit of a processor. |
| 05:01.58 | sstainlesmice | can gcc product the best code for p-d arch? |
| 05:02.23 | sticky | holond: if you knew the answer, why'd you ask? |
| 05:02.28 | *** join/#debian _rick (n=rick@cpe-67-49-57-221.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:02.29 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@62-90-76-238.barak.net.il) |
| 05:02.33 | *** join/#debian paquin (n=paquin@host106-161-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:02.35 | *** join/#debian jdhutchin1 (n=jdhutchi@DHCP-170-134.caltech.edu) |
| 05:03.03 | holond | sticky, that was meant to be a question, forgot about the "?" |
| 05:03.15 | _rick | Good afternoon, I'm having an issue mounting my usb device and allwoing me to have more than ro capability |
| 05:03.25 | sstainlesmice | well, gcc for p-d and gcc for amd-fake64, which is faster? |
| 05:04.04 | sticky | _rick: I use scsiadd to detect the usb, and then mount it |
| 05:04.13 | *** join/#debian olijoh (n=olijoh@200.114.10.176) |
| 05:04.28 | Niriven | wol: Thank you, i found it in the tree. Sorry for the hassle. |
| 05:04.35 | *** join/#debian exobyte (n=exobyte@70.135.103.174) |
| 05:04.51 | tokil | =) |
| 05:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 646] by debhelper |
| 05:05.18 | holond | i have a etch base system, and full working xp. how should i build up my etch? |
| 05:05.25 | sstainlesmice | _rick, the usb device is auto detected in linux/bsd |
| 05:05.34 | *** join/#debian aao_pwner (n=aao_pwne@c-24-21-91-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:05.39 | *** part/#debian sonofapreacher (n=soap@herbstreise.stmpd.net) |
| 05:06.18 | tokil | sstainlesmice: its auto detected but its only ro |
| 05:06.21 | karsten | tokil: what capabilities would you like? |
| 05:06.40 | karsten | tokil: And what are your mount options? Might check for the vfat factoid... |
| 05:06.42 | *** join/#debian owdondek (n=owdondek@220.70.26.66) |
| 05:06.53 | sstainlesmice | tokil, mine is rw in linux/bsd as a scsi device |
| 05:06.57 | *** join/#debian jpin (n=jpinto@jpinto.nmsu.edu) |
| 05:06.57 | exobyte | if I set up my internal lan to use ipv6, would my internal traffic be excrypted? |
| 05:07.07 | karsten | !tell tokil about vfatrw |
| 05:07.11 | *** join/#debian telexicon (n=will@c-71-231-166-74.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:07.13 | karsten | exobyte: Why would it be? |
| 05:07.24 | tokil | /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 05:07.45 | exobyte | karsten: ipsec is part of ipv6 |
| 05:07.52 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 05:08.06 | karsten | tokil: You probably want to read the factoid dpkg just gave you and set a umask and gid for the mount, and add yourself to the group w/ rw access. |
| 05:08.09 | _diz | Hi |
| 05:08.20 | karsten | exobyte: If so configured, I'll wot. |
| 05:09.03 | holond | which is the easiest way to set-up wlan in debian? |
| 05:09.29 | karsten | exobyte: isec is also available in ipv4. I'd say ipv6 and ipsec are somewhat orthogonal, no? |
| 05:09.29 | sstainlesmice | a 8139 + a wireless bridge? |
| 05:10.00 | *** join/#debian DaB|ade (n=linuxp2p@217-250-64.0508.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 05:10.01 | syntaxx | can you chmod mass files in one command? |
| 05:10.02 | karsten | holond: Use a supported WiFi device, install drivers, configure it, activate the interface. |
| 05:10.04 | tokil | karsten: Thnka you i just did it, wonderful |
| 05:10.08 | holond | holond, sorry, not the whole wlan but only a client. |
| 05:10.10 | karsten | syntaxx: Yes. And recursively. |
| 05:10.13 | karsten | tokil: Cool. |
| 05:10.19 | syntaxx | karsten, thanks |
| 05:10.37 | karsten | syntaxx: chmod -R <mode> <filespec or dirspec> |
| 05:10.44 | sstainlesmice | a 8139 + a wireless bridge = the best wi-fi solution = no buggy free drivers + hardware speed |
| 05:10.49 | karsten | syntaxx: ... where filespec may be a glob pattern or list. |
| 05:10.56 | *** join/#debian pitillo (n=pitillo@81-202-120-201.user.ono.com) |
| 05:10.57 | karsten | sstainlesmice: What's 8139? |
| 05:11.27 | sstainlesmice | karsten, reltek 8139? |
| 05:11.32 | holond | karsten, the constraint is that i need the link to be up before i can download or install anything. |
| 05:11.39 | karsten | sstainlesmice: realtek? |
| 05:11.39 | sstainlesmice | karsten, or whatever a normal ether card |
| 05:11.49 | sstainlesmice | yep |
| 05:12.00 | karsten | holond: Describe what you're trying to do then. |
| 05:12.02 | *** join/#debian kalessin (n=kalessin@84.205.146.236) |
| 05:12.28 | *** join/#debian xtr (n=94752345@S0106000c41ed11e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 05:12.28 | karsten | sstainlesmice: There a PCMCIA version of that? |
| 05:13.02 | sstainlesmice | you can extend your old wired ether with a wireless bridge(hardware) |
| 05:13.20 | karsten | sstainlesmice: If so, I've got to get me one and return the borrowed Lucent orinoco I've been using. |
| 05:13.23 | *** join/#debian marcels (n=marcel@mstoop.xs4all.nl) |
| 05:13.44 | sstainlesmice | karsten, you just need a old rj-45 slot |
| 05:13.51 | sstainlesmice | s/a/an |
| 05:13.52 | karsten | sstainlesmice: ?? |
| 05:14.01 | holond | karsten, i have a wlan link i am currently using with xp. i want to use it to download packages to the xp, burn it to cd and use it to set up my debian base. the problem is the dependencies of the packages concerned. how to overcome this? |
| 05:14.03 | karsten | Is this a dongly thingie? |
| 05:14.11 | sstainlesmice | ... |
| 05:14.26 | jetscreamer | dongledongle |
| 05:14.35 | karsten | holond: What dependencies are involved? Have you tried booting the install disk to determine if the wlan device is supported? |
| 05:15.07 | karsten | holond: ... or is this a hypothetically hypothetical question, hypothetically speaking? |
| 05:16.52 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.38 | holond | karsten, know nothign hypothetical, it is real and practical problem. i have belkin card with rt2500 chpset. when i have the link in debian, i had used module-assistant with rt2500-source to build the driver. now with xp, if i download the 2 packages mentioned, they are insufficient. many more dependent packages are require. that is the problem. |
| 05:18.22 | karsten | holond: The package descriptions themselves will describe the dependencies. Or you can use apt-zip to do the legwork for you. |
| 05:18.25 | karsten | !tell holond about apt-zip |
| 05:18.46 | holond | karsten, apt-zip, that rings a bell. |
| 05:18.52 | karsten | holond: apt-zip will generate the code you need to snarf the packages from another system. You may need something like Cygwin installed on XP. |
| 05:19.57 | holond | karsten, now we are talking. so, i have to ensure Cygwin in XP and apt-zip in my debian base system. anything else? |
| 05:21.24 | karsten | holond: I think that's it, not positive thought. |
| 05:22.52 | *** join/#debian bohanlon (n=bohanlon@c-24-131-68-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 05:24.26 | *** join/#debian jcreigh (n=jason@72-160-58-88.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 05:24.54 | *** join/#debian holond (n=holond@bb219-74-237-168.singnet.com.sg) |
| 05:25.14 | *** join/#debian kristalino (n=kristali@LNeuilly-152-21-126-73.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:25.25 | holond | karsten, apt-zip works on zip-drive or floppy, not cd. |
| 05:25.26 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (n=jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 05:26.14 | kristalino | hi, is it possible to cp -a a ntfs partition, to an ext2 partition ? |
| 05:26.32 | karsten | kristalino: Should be. |
| 05:26.36 | karsten | holond: Sec. |
| 05:26.43 | holond | ok |
| 05:27.06 | karsten | holond: I honestly don't think the storage medium matters. However you'll have to burn whatever it is you get to the CD if that's your transfer medium. |
| 05:27.32 | kristalino | karsten, i know i already done that, but the question is if i do a backup on ext2 and then copy back the files to nfts, will windows still work ok ? |
| 05:27.48 | kristalino | windows xp actually |
| 05:28.21 | karsten | kristalino: Probably not. |
| 05:28.28 | karsten | kristalino: Make that very nearly certainly not. |
| 05:28.48 | karsten | kristalino: If you want to image the drive, dd the drive (or partition) somewhere, then dd it back. |
| 05:28.54 | karsten | kristalino: Equivalent to Norton Ghost. |
| 05:29.22 | *** join/#debian sabbat_ (n=sabbat@203-206-127-87.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:29.30 | kristalino | karsten, yeap i know, but i'd like to backup a very large windows partition into vmware or qemu |
| 05:29.47 | kristalino | and the partition is about 40 GB with only 10 GB used |
| 05:29.52 | holond | karsten, i have tried something more basic, without apt-zip. i download a .deb file to cd, then transfer it to my debian base. when i try to apt-get install' or 'dpkg -i', i get "package not found'. |
| 05:30.03 | karsten | kristalino: You can compress the image. It will compress the slackspace. |
| 05:30.28 | kristalino | yeap course, but if i restore it back it still takes 40 GB |
| 05:30.29 | karsten | holond: dpkg -i <some package file in present directory *with* .deb extension> |
| 05:30.42 | kristalino | but hey, no miracle :) |
| 05:30.42 | karsten | holond: Eg: dpkg -i xfce4-verve-plugin_0.3.4-1_i386.deb |
| 05:30.52 | karsten | kristalino: Right. |
| 05:31.23 | karsten | kristalino: Welcome to Windows. |
| 05:31.30 | *** join/#debian numist (i=numist@unaffiliated/numist) |
| 05:31.34 | kristalino | karsten, heh :) |
| 05:31.39 | *** join/#debian SirPsycho (n=SirPsych@209-36-182-157.apachecorp.com) |
| 05:31.55 | holond | karsten, can i cp the .deb file to /var/..archives straightaway? |
| 05:32.06 | karsten | kristalino: vmware _should_ have a P2V feature you can use for this sort of thing. |
| 05:32.09 | karsten | holond: Yes. |
| 05:32.32 | holond | and then do a 'dpkg -i' in that dir? |
| 05:32.32 | karsten | holond: ... though if it's not the version your local apt knows about and expects to find it won't do you particularly much good there. |
| 05:32.41 | karsten | holond: Think about it. |
| 05:32.42 | kristalino | as the access to ntfs is now rather good i thought i could maybe do that. What makes you think that it will certainly fail ? Is it about files permissions ? |
| 05:33.02 | karsten | kristalino: Last I checked NTFS write support was relatively iffy. |
| 05:33.04 | karsten | !ntfs |
| 05:33.05 | dpkg | i guess ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html or ask me about ntfs-3g or captiventfs |
| 05:33.16 | holond | karsten, true, version is not a problem, they are all 'testing' packages from the same source. |
| 05:33.32 | *** join/#debian bohanlon (n=bohanlon@c-24-131-68-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 05:33.40 | karsten | Feh. That URL is owned by the guy whose house I'm in.... |
| 05:34.04 | holond | karsten, thks, bye. |
| 05:34.09 | *** join/#debian k-man__ (n=jason@ppp244-232.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:34.44 | karsten | kristalino: the captive driver may be your best bet. |
| 05:34.47 | kristalino | karsten, captive did a good job, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 05:34.51 | kristalino | karsten, :) |
| 05:35.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 636] by debhelper |
| 05:35.03 | karsten | !captive |
| 05:35.03 | dpkg | well, captive is The first kind of free if you squint NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/, or <abrotman> livingtm: well .. captive-ntfs is another ball of wax .. it's like wine for your filesystem .. and given how well wine works .. i avoid it like naked pictures of my mom, or <pipeline> abrotman: What would it take to get that captive factoid replaced with just "DON'T USE CAPTIVE, DAMNIT" |
| 05:35.14 | karsten | kristalino: Right. |
| 05:35.59 | *** join/#debian iLL_Afk (n=neener@user-0can16l.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:36.00 | karsten | kristalino: What I'm not sure about is where ntldr.exe expects to find stuff, and with what attributes. How well that's preserved doing a filesystem copy under Linux using captive NTFS I really can't say. |
| 05:36.31 | karsten | kristalino: May need to 'fdisk /mbr' the virtual system once it's up and running. I've had luck with FreeDOS to do that within the past 9 months. |
| 05:36.33 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@62-90-76-238.barak.net.il) |
| 05:36.36 | iLL_Afk | good evening all I got an old unstable box I just dusted off and have forgotten my root password are there any bot entries that might help me or solutions someone can point me to? |
| 05:36.38 | kristalino | or maybe i can create a ntfs for backup files, and then cross fingers for restoring the data back :) |
| 05:36.55 | kristalino | *ntfs partition |
| 05:38.32 | *** join/#debian TraceGreen (n=Trace@61.149.159.0) |
| 05:38.59 | simonrvn | !captive-ntfs |
| 05:39.09 | simonrvn | !captive ntfs |
| 05:39.36 | *** join/#debian yassine (n=yassine@xdsl-213-168-120-84.netcologne.de) |
| 05:39.45 | streuner_ | !listkeys captive |
| 05:39.46 | kristalino | !tell simonrvn about captive |
| 05:39.46 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'captive' by key (6): #debian captive ;; captive ;; _default captive ;; _default captiventfs ;; #debian captiventfs ;; captiventfs. |
| 05:40.15 | simonrvn | oh, sorry folks |
| 05:40.42 | iLL_Afk | nm |
| 05:40.55 | *** join/#debian subir (n=subir@202.79.37.177) |
| 05:41.11 | *** join/#debian xyan (n=xyance@212.80.227.94) |
| 05:42.20 | *** part/#debian sticky (n=sticky@sticky.fxfi.net) |
| 05:43.41 | *** join/#debian cb_ (n=cb@pD9E00F66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:43.53 | *** join/#debian mentor (n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 05:44.26 | *** join/#debian dannyr (n=chatzill@midfie4.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 05:44.56 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@eda147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 05:45.49 | TraceGreen | Hello, My harddisk is sata, i cann't mount my usepen, my usbpen is sda1, but actually, sda1 is a partition in my harddisk, I once recompile my kernel |
| 05:47.10 | Xorm | wow. |
| 05:47.22 | *** join/#debian xorllu (n=xorllu@ira.cs.llu.lv) |
| 05:47.32 | Xorm | That's actually rather confusing, could you rephrase that? |
| 05:48.56 | TraceGreen | ok, i plugin my usbpen, and then, fdisk, then, i find two sda1, one is my partition, and another is my usbpen. |
| 05:49.03 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nicolas@dslb-084-058-207-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:49.38 | *** join/#debian lavi (n=Miranda@221.226.103.140) |
| 05:49.59 | *** join/#debian xorllu (n=xorllu@ira.cs.llu.lv) |
| 05:50.06 | *** join/#debian sabbat_ (n=sabbat@203-206-127-87.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:50.29 | *** join/#debian g333k_laptop (n=Gonzalo@201.230.26.243) |
| 05:50.43 | *** join/#debian Deryl (n=pgpkeys@p5495532B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:52.06 | *** join/#debian xorllu (n=xorllu@ira.cs.llu.lv) |
| 05:53.11 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.66) |
| 06:01.29 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:01.29 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:03.16 | *** join/#debian Arjann (n=helios@ip54561c7e.speed.planet.nl) |
| 06:06.37 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@vit94-1-89-82-249-82.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 06:08.26 | ma3x | hey I can't compile (with m-a) acx source for debian sid |
| 06:09.03 | Xorm | How can I disable certain services from starting on boot? |
| 06:09.09 | Xorm | Appletalk in particular. |
| 06:09.11 | *** join/#debian factorx (n=asdf@URZ-DHCP-152.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 06:09.24 | *** join/#debian amee2k (n=thomas@p5497DA0D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:11.05 | *** join/#debian Irealion (n=alex@60.166.34.74) |
| 06:11.35 | sep | Xorm, removing them is what i do. or you can use update-rc.d [name] remove # this removes the symlinks in the rc[n].d directories or perhaps the package have it's own mechanism |
| 06:12.16 | litage | i have my own debian mirror and have noticed that the time it takes to rsync has increased significantly. has this occured to anyone else lately? |
| 06:13.00 | Xorm | ah, thanks. |
| 06:13.18 | solca | Xorm: you could try the rcconf utility, handy for disabling services |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian sabbat_ (n=sabbat@203-206-127-87.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:15.02 | Xorm | What are the appletalk things? |
| 06:15.07 | Xorm | There's atalk |
| 06:15.08 | Xorm | atd? |
| 06:15.12 | Xorm | and one other I think. |
| 06:15.24 | *** join/#debian Irealion (n=alex@60.166.34.74) |
| 06:15.52 | solca | appletalk is the comm protocol for apple products prior to TCP/IP |
| 06:16.14 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 06:16.34 | Xorm | yeah. |
| 06:16.51 | Xorm | Debian brings up a few daemons or something |
| 06:17.00 | Xorm | and it says "this will take a while" |
| 06:17.02 | Xorm | and it DOES |
| 06:17.15 | Xorm | My boot time from POST to login screen is 2:15. |
| 06:17.37 | solca | Xorm: maybe you installed to many packages |
| 06:17.47 | Xorm | I'm thinking that. |
| 06:17.53 | Xorm | well |
| 06:17.58 | Xorm | I used the netinstall |
| 06:18.03 | Xorm | and I selected package groups. |
| 06:18.13 | Xorm | I installed all the categories except for one. |
| 06:18.19 | solca | wow |
| 06:18.30 | solca | sarge, etch or sid? |
| 06:18.33 | Xorm | sarge |
| 06:19.03 | solca | well, if it were sid it will be a pita updating all those packages every day |
| 06:19.14 | Xorm | hmm. |
| 06:19.16 | sep | Xorm, you did wrong, i unselect all categories. |
| 06:19.22 | *** join/#debian joshmoore (n=josh@p213.54.180.109.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 06:19.30 | sep | Xorm, then i install manually just what i need |
| 06:19.38 | Xorm | oh. |
| 06:19.40 | *** join/#debian EdLin (n=chacha@as5300-6.216-194-21-245.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 06:19.43 | *** join/#debian xammu (i=mfqwxjgl@p54B39E47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:19.47 | *** join/#debian loko_ (i=LoKo@c-76c0e255.04-55-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:20.02 | sep | Xorm, since that would install very many packages you dont need |
| 06:20.26 | Xorm | Hence the 2:15 boot time =| |
| 06:20.37 | sep | hehe yes |
| 06:21.08 | *** join/#debian ugly_duck (n=ugly_duc@ip-58-28-156-45.ubs-dsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 06:21.20 | Xorm | huh |
| 06:21.22 | *** join/#debian kintaro0e (n=kintaro0@203.177.138.178) |
| 06:21.28 | solca | Xorm: do as sep said, install only the necessary, really, debian have too many packages |
| 06:21.29 | Xorm | is dmesg a fixed length? |
| 06:21.32 | sep | Xorm, if you just installed you can easily reinstall, call it "practicing" |
| 06:21.48 | Xorm | haha |
| 06:21.58 | Xorm | I'm 3/4 settled in though =| |
| 06:22.15 | sep | Xorm, its a 16392 ring buffer |
| 06:22.18 | sep | (ie yes) |
| 06:23.07 | joejaxx | is anyone here familiar with dfsbuild? |
| 06:23.16 | *** join/#debian tenzing_ (n=tenzin@d220-238-31-55.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:24.28 | litage | joejaxx: just ask your real question rather than beating around the bush |
| 06:25.10 | joejaxx | litage: everytime i run it it stops giving this error |
| 06:25.24 | joejaxx | after it gets the debs from the debian mirror |
| 06:25.40 | joejaxx | Updating from local Packages files... |
| 06:25.40 | joejaxx | cd: 1867: can't cd to /home/fluxbuntu/server/filesys/target/var/lib/apt/lists |
| 06:25.40 | joejaxx | Unknown error: getfiles: 2. |
| 06:25.40 | joejaxx | Fatal error: exception Shell.Subprocess_error(_, 0) |
| 06:25.40 | *** kick/#debian [joejaxx!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian joejaxx (i=jadaz87@unaffiliated/joejaxx) |
| 06:26.20 | *** part/#debian solca (n=solca@206.113.227.138) |
| 06:26.37 | joejaxx | litage: it exits with that |
| 06:29.20 | *** join/#debian coldboot (n=neil@bas2-kitchener06-1177883611.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 06:30.26 | joejaxx | litage: do you know why it is doing that? |
| 06:30.39 | joejaxx | litage: i am running the utility as root |
| 06:30.51 | *** join/#debian flashnet (i=flashnet@Darkstar.AceShells.com) |
| 06:33.12 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h126n1fls34o998.telia.com) |
| 06:34.16 | joejaxx | so i see |
| 06:37.03 | *** join/#debian peerless (n=peerless@203-217-74-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:37.41 | *** join/#debian tralala (n=joro@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 06:39.00 | *** join/#debian salman_ (n=salman@82.194.57.35) |
| 06:41.47 | *** part/#debian sstainlesmice (n=nimda@61-56-189-250.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 06:41.56 | litage | joejaxx: sorry, i have no experience with dfsbuild |
| 06:43.37 | *** join/#debian marsovac (n=marsovac@lns02-0959.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 06:43.43 | joejaxx | litage: it is quite alright |
| 06:43.54 | *** join/#debian FallenHitokiri (n=blitz@p54ACDCB2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:45.24 | *** join/#debian crazyglue (n=tesla@84-12-22-22.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 06:47.43 | *** join/#debian sparr` (n=sparr@host81-153-47-65.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:49.38 | *** join/#debian bohanlon (n=bohanlon@128.237.157.69) |
| 06:51.34 | *** join/#debian MoDaX (n=nth@2002:54f0:1683:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 06:51.37 | *** join/#debian Myles (n=myles@du-005-0205.claranet.co.uk) |
| 06:54.47 | *** join/#debian TraceGreen (n=Trace@61.149.159.0) |
| 06:56.06 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=fireba11@145.253.117.242) |
| 07:00.55 | *** join/#debian administrator (i=administ@nat/cisco/x-4ccda9699e98cd5e) |
| 07:01.01 | *** join/#debian khermans (i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-8256bdbf5fc4397c) |
| 07:01.12 | *** join/#debian peerless (n=peerless@203-217-74-177.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 629] by debhelper |
| 07:06.57 | *** join/#debian padalton (n=admin@h081217001232.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:07.15 | *** part/#debian padalton (n=admin@h081217001232.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:08.03 | *** join/#debian shmho (n=shmho@134.75.55.113) |
| 07:08.20 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@bipt42.bi.ehu.es) |
| 07:08.22 | *** join/#debian LordLamer (n=lordlame@server1932015274.serverpool.info) |
| 07:09.54 | *** join/#debian sep (n=sep@40.211.jostedal.no) |
| 07:11.44 | *** join/#debian Devil_Kin (i=devilkin@unaffiliated/DevilKin) |
| 07:11.58 | tarzeau | !mosh |
| 07:12.03 | *** part/#debian Devil_Kin (i=devilkin@unaffiliated/DevilKin) |
| 07:12.07 | *** join/#debian madcode_ (n=madcode@reverse-82-141-49-91.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) |
| 07:12.19 | madcode_ | :) |
| 07:12.31 | madcode_ | good morning |
| 07:12.40 | *** join/#debian usn_work (n=usn@p54932CB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:13.00 | *** join/#debian redloff (i=redloff@black.bee.pl) |
| 07:13.09 | *** join/#debian padalton (n=admin@h081217001232.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:13.10 | *** join/#debian usn__work (n=usn@p54932CB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:14.33 | *** join/#debian onurx (n=ddsdd@85.104.43.53) |
| 07:14.53 | padalton | good morning! |
| 07:15.22 | padalton | is anyone here who speak german? |
| 07:15.24 | *** join/#debian schlesinger (n=as@beastie.paefchen.net) |
| 07:15.34 | tarzeau | padalton: yes |
| 07:15.35 | tarzeau | !de |
| 07:15.36 | dpkg | somebody said de was Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 07:15.42 | *** part/#debian reanjr (n=reanjr@adsl-70-137-65-92.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:15.47 | tarzeau | padalton: you're missing a verb like can |
| 07:17.18 | padalton | when i try to join #debian.de the msg comes that i am banned |
| 07:17.35 | tarzeau | padalton: there's obviously a reason |
| 07:17.42 | tarzeau | padalton: and if you think it's wrong, go #freenode |
| 07:18.00 | liable | yummeh beer |
| 07:18.01 | padalton | but i wasn't ever in this IRQ bevore |
| 07:18.35 | tarzeau | padalton: well we can't do anything about it |
| 07:18.40 | *** join/#debian pascsaq (n=chatzill@82-98-11-62.cln.ozoneparis.net) |
| 07:18.44 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.66) |
| 07:18.50 | *** join/#debian freed (n=freed489@V5DSL0090-Glossop.dsl.uk.viatel.net) |
| 07:18.59 | padalton | ok i go #freenode... THX 4 help |
| 07:19.11 | *** part/#debian padalton (n=admin@h081217001232.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 07:19.14 | *** join/#debian yooseong (n=yooseong@60.196.156.80) |
| 07:19.30 | *** join/#debian iXatu (i=ryuji@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265) |
| 07:19.30 | *** join/#debian saintiss (n=saintiss@macinf5.cmi.ua.ac.be) |
| 07:20.26 | *** join/#debian Bobik (n=bobik@V5DSL0090-Glossop.dsl.uk.viatel.net) |
| 07:20.28 | *** join/#debian zeeble (n=sp@unaffiliated/zeeble) |
| 07:20.32 | *** join/#debian wdamn (n=marcello@teotihuacan.nekhem.com) |
| 07:20.46 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 07:21.09 | *** join/#debian modern (n=modern@82-71-1-140.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 07:22.49 | shmho | yooseong: hello! |
| 07:23.11 | yooseong | shmho oh good to see u |
| 07:23.23 | shmho | haha, :) |
| 07:24.01 | zeeble | Does the new d-i netinstall have a gtk based installer or something? |
| 07:24.03 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 07:24.12 | yooseong | shmho familiar with your nick |
| 07:24.58 | shmho | yooseong: :) yeah. It's from my real name. |
| 07:25.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 638] by debhelper |
| 07:25.12 | shmho | I removed some characters and compressed it. |
| 07:25.15 | shmho | lol |
| 07:25.15 | *** join/#debian ugly_duck (n=ugly_duc@ip-58-28-156-45.ubs-dsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 07:25.40 | yooseong | geek style |
| 07:25.48 | shmho | :) |
| 07:26.43 | yooseong | it's been a long time to join this channel |
| 07:27.24 | shmho | hm.. so quiet. |
| 07:27.31 | linuxmigration | has debian stopped serving torrents of weekly testing cds? |
| 07:27.32 | Xorm | rly. |
| 07:27.41 | madcode_ | ...it is a long way if you wanna rockn roll |
| 07:27.46 | *** join/#debian cydork (n=vihang@gridtutorial15.ba.infn.it) |
| 07:27.47 | madcode_ | i think so |
| 07:28.02 | *** join/#debian b00t (n=b00t@222.178.152.81) |
| 07:28.07 | *** join/#debian lavi (n=Miranda@221.226.103.140) |
| 07:28.16 | linuxmigration | will the cdimage download page ever be updated then? |
| 07:28.18 | madcode_ | but its easy to join this channel |
| 07:28.43 | zeeble | linuxmigration: do the new images have a gtk based netinstaller? |
| 07:28.48 | *** join/#debian ctd____ (i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au) |
| 07:28.56 | linuxmigration | zeeble: huh? |
| 07:29.03 | lavi | hi, when I typed make, I got below error infor. |
| 07:29.03 | lavi | aclocal-1.8: cannot open > aclocal.m4: Permission denied |
| 07:29.05 | zeeble | linuxmigration: nevermind. |
| 07:29.10 | lavi | what's the problem? |
| 07:29.11 | Xorm | tsukarimashou! |
| 07:29.24 | *** join/#debian pascsaq (n=chatzill@82-98-11-62.cln.ozoneparis.net) |
| 07:29.38 | yooseong | shmho not quiet hahaha |
| 07:33.29 | *** join/#debian phisher1 (n=phisher1@aworklan025162.netvigator.com) |
| 07:33.30 | *** join/#debian pascsaq (n=chatzill@82-98-11-62.cln.ozoneparis.net) |
| 07:34.21 | *** join/#debian basanta (n=basanta@202.79.37.177) |
| 07:35.01 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:35.01 | dpkg | qotd139 is, like, <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 07:37.06 | ma3x | why the hell my dvd can't read a dvd? is it possible because of a region problem? |
| 07:37.27 | liable | have you got the css library? |
| 07:38.45 | *** join/#debian TiffOn (i=TiffOn@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 07:38.53 | streuner_ | ma3x: install kaffeine |
| 07:39.14 | liable | or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh |
| 07:39.25 | *** part/#debian zeeble (n=sp@unaffiliated/zeeble) |
| 07:39.45 | ma3x | liable, no idea, what's the package name of css library? |
| 07:39.54 | liable | ^^ |
| 07:40.22 | ma3x | liable, libdvdcss2 is already installed |
| 07:40.24 | streuner_ | ma3x: what RC (regionalcode) is the DVD btw? |
| 07:40.32 | ma3x | streuner_, I don't know. how can I check that? |
| 07:40.45 | streuner_ | look on the cover? :-) |
| 07:40.58 | ma3x | oh the disc, hold on |
| 07:41.12 | streuner_ | if there is nothing mentioned its usually RC0 :-) |
| 07:41.15 | ma3x | zone 2 |
| 07:41.32 | *** join/#debian debq (n=debq@dslc-082-082-064-148.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:42.13 | ma3x | damn, it can't just read it |
| 07:42.19 | ma3x | liable I did your think, it just doesnt work |
| 07:42.27 | *** join/#debian derek[] (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 07:42.29 | ma3x | it spins the disc for a while and then it stopps |
| 07:42.38 | streuner_ | so try to install kaffeine - its analyses the system and gives you a warning... |
| 07:42.43 | ma3x | okay |
| 07:42.59 | liable | ma3x: shrug, it was only a suggestion to make sure you have it. |
| 07:43.27 | ma3x | /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 : : No such file or directory |
| 07:43.56 | streuner_ | nah, DVB has nothing to do with your DVD |
| 07:44.02 | ma3x | streuner_, it says xine error: the source can't be read |
| 07:44.22 | ma3x | damn, when I put the disc inside, it loops a little bit and then it stopps |
| 07:44.37 | ma3x | as if I had laid it from the other side |
| 07:44.41 | streuner_ | Did you try another DVD? |
| 07:44.46 | ma3x | libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss. |
| 07:44.46 | ma3x | libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading |
| 07:44.46 | linuxmigration | http://djst.org/blog/2006/09/27/the-name-firefox-not-allowed-in-ubuntu/ |
| 07:44.56 | ma3x | well I don't have another dvd movies |
| 07:45.07 | ma3x | but I mean the other dvds I have, they work |
| 07:45.16 | streuner_ | ma3x: so udev? |
| 07:45.18 | ma3x | libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access |
| 07:45.18 | ma3x | libdvdread: Attempting to use device /dev/hda2 mounted on / for CSS authentication |
| 07:45.18 | ma3x | libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device. |
| 07:45.30 | Guerin | ma3x: clean your dvd |
| 07:45.34 | ma3x | no, not udev |
| 07:45.37 | ma3x | Guerin, how? |
| 07:45.51 | Guerin | ma3x: in a sinkful of hot soapy water works well |
| 07:45.58 | Guerin | perferabl;y before the dishes |
| 07:46.32 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 07:46.41 | ma3x | yeah, you first do yours |
| 07:46.45 | Guerin | dishwasher works too |
| 07:46.53 | Guerin | ma3x: no, really. I'm 100% serious |
| 07:46.53 | ma3x | it's clean already |
| 07:47.17 | Guerin | you need to not use a powdered detergent, but otherwise they clean up fine |
| 07:47.26 | ma3x | Guerin, turn on your web cam and show me you first |
| 07:47.29 | ma3x | i don't believe that |
| 07:47.34 | Guerin | ma3x: i don't have a webcam |
| 07:47.45 | ma3x | Guerin, okay take some snapshots then |
| 07:47.50 | ma3x | heh |
| 07:47.58 | ma3x | anyway, I shouldn't touch the laser, right? |
| 07:48.04 | ma3x | or yes? |
| 07:48.05 | streuner_ | no |
| 07:48.11 | Guerin | what laser? |
| 07:48.17 | Guerin | never touch lasers |
| 07:48.17 | liable | licking it usually cleans it well |
| 07:48.17 | streuner_ | of the DVD |
| 07:48.19 | ma3x | the dvd laser |
| 07:48.19 | Guerin | they are not user-serviceable |
| 07:48.26 | wakejagr | why does libdvdread say "device /dev/hda2 mounted on / for CSS authentication" ? |
| 07:48.42 | ma3x | Guerin, so why the hell are you telling me to clean it? |
| 07:48.44 | streuner_ | ma3x: keep in mind, if you open the *working* DVD - the laser could make you blind! |
| 07:48.52 | Guerin | ma3x: the disc |
| 07:48.54 | Guerin | not the drive |
| 07:48.56 | wakejagr | i'm not used to seeing libdvdread output, but that seems weird |
| 07:49.01 | Guerin | \discs don't have a laser on them |
| 07:49.12 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 07:49.13 | *** join/#debian roxy_ (n=roxy_@machine219.bibu2.u-cergy.fr) |
| 07:49.18 | jair | anyone knows here about the addoption of GNU on the extremadura goverment spain? |
| 07:49.25 | Guerin | ma3x: http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-a-Dirty-CD |
| 07:49.26 | jair | linext something like that?? |
| 07:49.31 | Kevin` | touching the laser is unwise, as you would get fingerprints on the lens or scratch it maybe |
| 07:49.32 | *** join/#debian pascsaq (n=chatzill@82-98-11-62.cln.ozoneparis.net) |
| 07:49.49 | *** join/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:50.21 | ma3x | Guerin, but I just bought the damn dvd |
| 07:50.33 | Guerin | ma3x: take it back |
| 07:50.36 | streuner_ | ma3x: not that unusual |
| 07:50.36 | ma3x | it's not scratched or anything |
| 07:50.47 | ma3x | streuner_, why not? |
| 07:50.50 | jair | by the way guys, i am running Debian sarge 3.1 and keep it up to date and working perfectly for me. Love it but I am interested in install the chinese Japanese and Chinese support language |
| 07:50.57 | streuner_ | ma3x: i had the same case 2 weeks ago, after cleaning the DVD it worked then |
| 07:51.02 | jair | what exactly I will need? |
| 07:51.06 | Guerin | jair: i know their debian-based distro was the only 100% rms-certified distro for a while there |
| 07:51.10 | *** part/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:51.15 | ma3x | streuner_, but was the disc brand new? |
| 07:51.20 | Guerin | jair: apt-cache search cjk |
| 07:51.24 | TraceGreen | Hello, My usb memory stick is sdb1, and my hardisk is sata, but when i mount /dev/sdb1 to /mnt/USB, the content in /mnt/USB are my /dev/sda1's . |
| 07:51.24 | streuner_ | ma3x: yes... |
| 07:51.31 | *** join/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:51.58 | rvgate_ | anyone here uses iirc? what is the shortcut/command to switch channels ? |
| 07:52.03 | streuner_ | ma3x: those stuff is pretty sensitive |
| 07:52.08 | jair | Guerin: hmm what that exctly mean? rms? |
| 07:52.15 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 07:52.17 | streuner_ | !rms |
| 07:52.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rms is Richard M. Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and the GNU project, as well as the original author of the GNU C Compiler and GNU Emacs, one hell of a lisp coder. see fsf. or "Join us now and share the software, you'll be free hackers" |
| 07:52.45 | *** join/#debian whm (n=whm@59.41.70.169) |
| 07:52.54 | ma3x | but I mean if it's not scratched, then why do you need to clean it? |
| 07:53.02 | jair | streuner_: got it ;) |
| 07:53.04 | ma3x | what's the point? |
| 07:53.14 | ma3x | to refresh it? |
| 07:53.31 | *** part/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:53.34 | stew | !rms is also see <vrms> |
| 07:53.34 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 07:53.43 | insmod | ma3x: can it see or read the dvd if it can chances ar it is just the player |
| 07:53.43 | *** join/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:53.48 | rvgate_ | anyone here uses iirc? what is the shortcut/command to switch channels ? |
| 07:53.56 | rvgate_ | whoops, repeat |
| 07:54.12 | jair | hey guys I am trying to understand how can I check if the memory on Debian change ?? if I add another slot of memory, I can try "free-m" but it is anything else I can check in the debian OS i am not using any gui ;) |
| 07:54.16 | ma3x | insmod, I put the disc inside, it tries to read it, but it's unable to |
| 07:54.29 | ma3x | after few loops, it stopps |
| 07:54.35 | insmod | ma3x: with all players ? |
| 07:54.46 | Guerin | ma3x: take it back and say 'this dvd doesn';t work, I want to exchange it for one which does' |
| 07:54.47 | ma3x | insmod, I have no idea, I don't have any other player |
| 07:54.54 | Guerin | if they give you grief, ask to see a manager |
| 07:55.24 | insmod | ma3x: try ripping it see if that works -- if so it is your player -- what player you use |
| 07:55.36 | Guerin | jair: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 07:55.44 | *** join/#debian motp (n=motp@83.236.181.13) |
| 07:56.00 | ma3x | insmod, it doesn't even get detected, how can I try ripping it? |
| 07:56.10 | cydork | jair: what do you want to check exactly? |
| 07:56.35 | insmod | ma3x: you can't use the dvd player at all ? |
| 07:57.01 | ma3x | Guerin, should I try that thing with the soap first? because if I do that, the cover on the cd might disappear |
| 07:57.05 | ma3x | you know what I mean? |
| 07:57.15 | ma3x | insmod, with other discs, yes of course |
| 07:57.21 | streuner_ | ma3x: no |
| 07:57.31 | insmod | ma3x: what wm |
| 07:57.33 | streuner_ | ma3x: covers are usually pretty stable.. |
| 07:57.47 | streuner_ | ma3x: just wash the DVD |
| 07:58.01 | Guerin | ma3x: you don't need to do anything if a dvd doesn't work |
| 07:58.14 | Guerin | ma3x: all you need to do is take it back and say 'this doesn't work' |
| 07:58.18 | ma3x | so should I wash it or not? |
| 07:58.41 | streuner_ | sure :-) |
| 07:58.41 | insmod | Guerin: good idea |
| 07:58.57 | Guerin | washing it won't hurt |
| 07:59.03 | Guerin | if you're careful |
| 07:59.14 | Guerin | but you're a consumer. No need to be clever about it. |
| 07:59.23 | insmod | ma3x: i would see if vobcopy -l works first to see if it is the player |
| 07:59.32 | *** join/#debian Talisker[w] (n=shai@DSL217-132-164-94.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 07:59.49 | ma3x | so just put a little bit body douche gel, with warm water, yeah? |
| 08:00.07 | jair | cydork: Honestly, I am using ESX 3.0 and I have debian installed running with 3GB ram |
| 08:00.16 | Guerin | what you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you |
| 08:00.21 | *** part/#debian rvgate_ (n=rvgate@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 08:00.45 | jair | cydork: but then I added 2GB more of ram and the vm debian does not want to recognize the increase of the memory? |
| 08:00.57 | ma3x | Guerin, what do you mean? |
| 08:01.13 | Guerin | jair: virtual machines are nothing to do with us |
| 08:01.18 | ma3x | Guerin, I mean does it make difference if I put shower gel or soap? |
| 08:01.23 | Guerin | ma3x: ... |
| 08:01.26 | ma3x | liquid soap |
| 08:01.28 | Guerin | just do what feels right |
| 08:01.43 | ma3x | okay, and then should I leave it for a few mins like that? |
| 08:01.58 | insmod | ma3x: don't do it man |
| 08:02.02 | liable | lol |
| 08:02.10 | ma3x | insmod, why not, man? |
| 08:02.11 | streuner_ | ma3x: you need paper which doesn't ruin the DVD itself.. |
| 08:02.26 | cydork | jair: please ask #vmware or check vmware site for the documentation |
| 08:02.50 | liable | perspex polish is good for dvd's |
| 08:02.50 | ma3x | streuner_, what do you mean, paper to lay on the dvd? |
| 08:02.51 | CAiRO | are there any special kernel options needed for hal and dbus? |
| 08:02.57 | insmod | ma3x:that's a crazy idea -- and i am drinking and is still crazy lol |
| 08:03.04 | stew | CAiRO: sysfs support |
| 08:03.13 | streuner_ | ma3x: zum Abrocknen, kein Toilettenpapier |
| 08:03.13 | CAiRO | ok, i think i have that alread |
| 08:03.32 | streuner_ | ma3x: zewa, but be cafeful |
| 08:03.37 | ma3x | [Hint] All lines starting with "libdvdread:" are not from vobcopy but from the libdvdread-library |
| 08:03.38 | ma3x | [Error] There seems to be no cd/dvd mounted. Please do that.. |
| 08:04.14 | ma3x | streuner_, zewa? |
| 08:04.28 | streuner_ | ma3x: Wisch-Weg! |
| 08:04.38 | streuner_ | ma3x: Wisch-Und-Weg! |
| 08:04.38 | ma3x | ok |
| 08:05.30 | streuner_ | but be careful, other you have some "Kratzer" on the DVD itself |
| 08:05.30 | jair | cydork: Thank you guys :) |
| 08:05.38 | streuner_ | s/other/otherwise/ |
| 08:05.55 | *** join/#debian vegiVamp (n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be) |
| 08:05.56 | jair | cydork: I though that i can still having questions because the machine is running a debian :) |
| 08:06.05 | jair | Guerin: Thank you again ;) |
| 08:06.27 | cydork | jair: you can ask about debian :) |
| 08:06.47 | MatBoy | persons who have 2GB of ram and a SMP system... I can advise you kernel 2.6.17-2 instead of 2.6.16-smp. 2.6.17 is much more stable and your system will be really faster |
| 08:06.52 | jair | cydork: :) I am trying to unserdtand still how the dns bind9 work in debian |
| 08:07.24 | jair | cydork: if I have a debian server that I want it to be my DHCP server and DNS server for an internal network |
| 08:07.32 | predder | MatBoy, whats that based on? |
| 08:07.34 | ma3x | streuner_, okay I've put it into a cd-cup with warm water inside |
| 08:07.56 | jair | cydork: all i need to do is: 1- install the dhcp3 package, then configure the dhcp.conf |
| 08:07.57 | MatBoy | predder, experience and no slowing down system anymore after 2 weeks |
| 08:08.22 | jair | cydork: but then to make the debian does NAT for me I will need to use iptables correct? |
| 08:08.24 | MatBoy | predder, I got vmware error on memory with the 2.6.16-smp kernel and my system became slower |
| 08:08.38 | cydork | jair: there was a nice howto about that debian-administration.org |
| 08:08.52 | jair | cydork: I will chekc on that site then |
| 08:09.18 | *** join/#debian simonrvn (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 08:09.19 | cydork | jair: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/343 |
| 08:10.28 | jair | cydork: but the thing is some people use ipmasq and I do not like how it works. It does everyhting automatically but when I chekc another tty window to log in in debian I get all this bunches of messages one behind another one saying all the behavior of the packages and other info like ips, mac addresses and do not stop... |
| 08:11.08 | liable | theres a syslog hack to fix that |
| 08:11.08 | *** join/#debian Mportnoy (n=test@201.199.68.150) |
| 08:11.19 | liable | well, not a hack, but a conf setting |
| 08:11.24 | jair | cydork: nice |
| 08:11.42 | litage | is it possible to determine how much data is in a fifo/named pipe? |
| 08:11.45 | Mportnoy | any one knows how to install nagios 2.5 on Debian 3.1r3 ? |
| 08:12.01 | Guerin | jair: that's nothing to do with ipmasq, it's all about klogd |
| 08:12.25 | *** join/#debian digit (n=digit@71-34-224-229.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 08:12.33 | digit | hi all |
| 08:12.46 | jair | Guerin: so that happen to you before?? |
| 08:12.53 | liable | innit syslog, -c 2 iirc in init script |
| 08:12.53 | jair | Guerin: how do I stop that :( |
| 08:13.09 | cydork | jair: check what liable said. ^^ |
| 08:13.10 | *** join/#debian nlight (n=nlight@85.187.188.171) |
| 08:13.10 | digit | I was wondering if anyone knows about phlak |
| 08:13.44 | cydork | digit: they might. But this is a debian support channel so it's off-topic :P |
| 08:13.46 | jair | I beasically want to have a firewall (NAT) DNS (Bind9) and DHCP (DHCP3-server) on my network using a box with two network cards :) |
| 08:14.23 | digit | yeah I checked in that channel no response |
| 08:14.45 | digit | why i asked in here as its deb based |
| 08:14.54 | jair | cydork: ok |
| 08:15.04 | jair | liable: what that will do??? |
| 08:15.05 | simonrvn | !based on debian |
| 08:15.05 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 08:15.09 | liable | jair: check out shorewall if you dont want to learn iptables |
| 08:15.31 | jair | liable: I am sorry but I want to learn IPTables, love what it can do :) |
| 08:15.50 | digit | i am running debian |
| 08:16.15 | *** part/#debian iLLf8d (n=neener@user-0can16l.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:16.19 | MatBoy | predder, what are you using than ? |
| 08:16.21 | digit | i only asked if anyone knew anything about the project |
| 08:16.32 | *** join/#debian streuner (n=streuner@p54A5EAC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:16.36 | jair | liable: so those messages on the tty1 2 3 about mac address ip addresses etc.. after I install DHCP serevr and ipmasq package to have the machines getting ip addresses from the debian DHCP server to the internet with NAT |
| 08:16.39 | digit | im using debian testing |
| 08:16.42 | cydork | !phlak |
| 08:16.42 | dpkg | it has been said that phlak is a modular live security Linux distribution (a.k.a LiveCD). PHLAK comes with two light gui's (fluxbox and XFCE4), many security tools, and a spiral notebook full of security documentation. PHLAK is a derivative of Morphix, created by Alex de Landgraaf. At http://www.phlak.org/ |
| 08:16.43 | *** join/#debian cafuego (n=cafuego@59.167.191.160) |
| 08:17.11 | jair | cydork: what about PHLAK ;) |
| 08:17.19 | liable | jair: theres a syslog flag, i think its the one i mentioned about the init script, but i can never remember the factoid |
| 08:17.22 | sep | digit, so phlak is not even based on debian, its based on a distro that's based on debian :) |
| 08:17.23 | jair | I like that I use to used before |
| 08:17.28 | predder | MatBoy, I have two machines: a dual core running 2.6.15-1smp and a single core running 2.6.16-2smp |
| 08:17.32 | cydork | i thought so. it's a derivative of morphix. |
| 08:17.35 | digit | oh ok |
| 08:17.44 | jair | liable: ohh ok |
| 08:17.45 | predder | (the single core is running an smp in case I decide to drop in a dual core processor) |
| 08:17.48 | MatBoy | predder, with 2GB of ram ? |
| 08:18.03 | liable | ah, its klogd actually |
| 08:18.05 | predder | 2.6.15 dual core machine has 2 x 1GB, yes. |
| 08:18.06 | jair | liable: I have access to the machine right now |
| 08:18.12 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:18.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:18.24 | digit | now on to better things any news on what the new debian will be like |
| 08:18.27 | *** join/#debian klaus (n=klaus@else.hhhr.ision.net) |
| 08:18.42 | jair | liable: what should I check ??"/directory/otherdirectory/"? |
| 08:18.43 | liable | jair: add -c 2 to the end of the start line in klogd's init script, and restart it |
| 08:18.46 | simonrvn | bigger! better than ever! etchier! |
| 08:18.49 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua_@122.0.229.217) |
| 08:18.58 | jair | liable: doing it right now |
| 08:18.58 | cydork | simonrvn: :) |
| 08:19.06 | predder | MatBoy: so far both machines are fine. Uptime is a few weeks on the 2.6.15 and a few days on the other |
| 08:19.26 | MatBoy | predder, but no GUI on it ? |
| 08:20.06 | predder | nope, one is a mysql server and the other is an asterisk pbx |
| 08:20.45 | *** join/#debian motp (n=motp@83.236.181.13) |
| 08:21.23 | MatBoy | predder, for a GUI it makes a difference |
| 08:21.27 | *** join/#debian Vikram (n=azerty@fw.alphamosa.fr) |
| 08:21.44 | jair | I am looking for the location of that "klogd" but can not find it :( "find -name klogd" nothing :( |
| 08:21.46 | predder | I see. Thanks for the advice. |
| 08:21.47 | digit | i like that bigger better etchier |
| 08:21.54 | MatBoy | predder, NP :) |
| 08:22.15 | MatBoy | predder, all my vmwares were crashing after some time... memory problem |
| 08:22.16 | MatBoy | S |
| 08:22.17 | MatBoy | :S |
| 08:22.54 | digit | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.06 | digit | and have never regreted it |
| 08:23.08 | litage | do named pipes' contents persist between reboots? |
| 08:23.16 | jair | anyone here knows if is a iscsi driver for san storages like what people call discover driver or initiator??? so I can attach a san equalogic or promise to a debian sarge? |
| 08:23.30 | jair | liable: where can I find that kelogd :( |
| 08:23.33 | MatBoy | digit, you made a good choice :) |
| 08:23.44 | jair | it is an init script |
| 08:23.48 | digit | thanks |
| 08:24.14 | Vikram | Hi all, just a simple question: i want to recompile snort so that it could use prelude, so i apt-get source snort, install all needed dev package, and then want to recompile it using dpkg-buildpackage, but how could i specify that i want snort to be configured with --enable-prelude ? |
| 08:24.26 | liable | jair: its klogd, and its where all the init scripts are, /etc/init.d |
| 08:24.44 | *** join/#debian cast (n=cast@fsf/member/cast) |
| 08:25.00 | MatBoy | digit, now you centrino-laptop ;) |
| 08:25.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 646] by debhelper |
| 08:25.04 | MatBoy | *your |
| 08:25.08 | stew | Vikram: edit debian/rules |
| 08:25.09 | cydork | Vikram: edit the rules file |
| 08:25.13 | cydork | bah |
| 08:25.20 | Mportnoy | anyone knows how to install Nagios-mysql 1.3 Stable? |
| 08:25.26 | cast | hmm, i have two soundcards. i'm using alsa, how do i switch between them? or set one to be perminantly used. right now everytime i boot i run alsaconf to switch to the other card :\ |
| 08:25.29 | digit | it took me 5 mos to learn this filesystem and man was it hard, the only reason i could was shear persistance and about 8 years worth of computing exp. |
| 08:25.34 | jair | liable: you are the Master ;) |
| 08:25.35 | Vikram | thx cydork & stew ... simple for sure :-) |
| 08:25.38 | jair | liable: Thank you |
| 08:25.43 | stew | Vikram: if you change the rules, you may wnat to use "dch --nmu" to also edit debian/control and bump the version number |
| 08:25.45 | jair | liable: checking now |
| 08:25.53 | MatBoy | !beer cydork |
| 08:26.23 | cydork | MatBoy: i was actully hoping for a coffee but beer will do :P |
| 08:26.34 | simonrvn | !coffee cydork |
| 08:26.44 | digit | anyone from oregon in here |
| 08:26.47 | MatBoy | cydork, ah, with beer you forget you boss faster :P |
| 08:27.15 | cydork | MatBoy: you havn't seen my boss then ;) |
| 08:27.23 | jair | liable: these are the last lines of the file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y3qEia21.html |
| 08:27.25 | MatBoy | cydork, I hope she is a nice woman :D |
| 08:27.33 | cydork | simonrvn: thanks :) |
| 08:27.38 | simonrvn | :) |
| 08:27.40 | jair | liable: you said, add that to the last line ?? |
| 08:28.02 | liable | jair: i said add it to the start line |
| 08:28.17 | lavi | hi DEXCLUDE mean what? |
| 08:28.33 | liable | jair: the start bit, and the start-stop-daemon line |
| 08:28.52 | Vikram | thx stew, in rules file, i should modify CONFFLAGS i guess? |
| 08:28.58 | Guerin | lavi: fgi |
| 08:29.08 | *** join/#debian qit (n=naqit@dslb-088-070-005-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:29.17 | stew | Vikram: i don't know. i haven't looked at that particular package before |
| 08:29.23 | *** join/#debian simo[X] (n=simon@S010600c0f035de4d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 08:29.43 | *** join/#debian Danamania (n=Snak@084.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au) |
| 08:30.07 | jair | liable: ohhhh |
| 08:31.30 | simonrvn | !fgi lavi DEXCLUDE |
| 08:31.30 | dpkg | lavi: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=DEXCLUDE |
| 08:32.00 | stew | man these new fangled machines sure do run cool |
| 08:32.05 | *** join/#debian AnAnt (n=anant@81.10.9.182) |
| 08:32.09 | AnAnt | can someone help me in confguring whereami, I need to differentiate between 2 cases: 1) That the wifi interface is disabled (radio off) . 2) that the wifi interface is enabled yet no AP is scanned |
| 08:32.11 | ma3x | no way, I washed the dvd, but it still doesnt work! |
| 08:32.17 | ma3x | how sad |
| 08:32.19 | stew | my cpu is running at 23c ? |
| 08:32.22 | simonrvn | stew: which? |
| 08:32.35 | stew | simonrvn: amd64 x2 |
| 08:32.40 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 08:32.50 | simonrvn | 'bout time ;) |
| 08:33.05 | simonrvn | temperature : 27 C (uncalibrated) |
| 08:33.06 | stew | and schroot is my new best friend |
| 08:33.13 | karsten | stew: schroot?] |
| 08:33.27 | simonrvn | new package in sid |
| 08:33.37 | karsten | stew: Hrm. Doesn't normal chroot do that anyway? |
| 08:34.04 | g333k | why is not avaiable the firefox locale-es file? |
| 08:34.10 | karsten | stew: Ah, non-root. Dig. Interesting. |
| 08:34.27 | karsten | g333k: Have you configured es locales? |
| 08:34.29 | lavi | dpkg: tnx |
| 08:34.30 | dpkg | Really, "Thank you" will do. It's not too much to ask, is it? |
| 08:34.45 | jair | liable: this is what you mean? http://rafb.net/paste/results/qX2Mak52.html |
| 08:34.51 | jair | liable: hope I am right? |
| 08:34.52 | g333k | karsten, yep.... dpkg-reconfigure locales, and picked ES |
| 08:34.58 | simonrvn | even the bot is being picky ;p |
| 08:35.11 | stew | karsten: now that i have a native amd64 machine, which is running pure 64, i also have 32-sarge and 32-etch chroots setup, schroot lets me create: "alias 32s='schroot -c 32-sarge --'", then i can do stuff like "32s xterm" to get a xterm running in the sarge 32 bit chroot |
| 08:35.25 | g333k | karsten, how can I see if it was did well ? |
| 08:35.55 | *** join/#debian factorx (n=asdf@URZ-DHCP-152.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 08:36.04 | g333k | It's curious beacause I have the thunderbird locale-es file |
| 08:36.13 | *** join/#debian cydork (n=vihang@gridtutorial15.ba.infn.it) |
| 08:36.26 | jair | so nobody here have ever attach Debian sarge to a ISCSI or SCSI san storage device? |
| 08:36.35 | *** join/#debian HellDragon (n=JD@about/copyleft/pdpc.active.HellDragon) |
| 08:36.35 | jair | uisng an initiator? |
| 08:36.40 | *** join/#debian bier__ (n=bier@pD954F0C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:36.59 | stew | jair: what is an initiator? |
| 08:37.11 | liable | jair: right line, wrong code... -c 2 |
| 08:37.49 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@62-90-76-238.barak.net.il) |
| 08:37.57 | Vikram | stew "dch --nmu" ? i can't find anything about that on google |
| 08:38.52 | jair | stew: It is some kind of driver or package that allows the system OS Debian to recognice the fibers optic and san storage |
| 08:38.52 | stew | Vikram: dch is a tool in the devscripts pacakge which aids in editing debian/changelog which is the file which controls what version of a package you would build with dpkg-buildpackage. the --nmu switch will bump the version from (for instance) 1.2.3-1 to 1.2.3-1.1 |
| 08:39.23 | *** part/#debian digit (n=digit@71-34-224-229.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 08:39.27 | jair | liable: what do you men wrong code? you told me that or -C2 iirc? |
| 08:39.29 | Vikram | ok, i'll apt-cache search for it, thx stew |
| 08:39.36 | jair | liable: I see |
| 08:39.51 | liable | jair: look what i wrote (twice) and what yuou wrote... |
| 08:39.54 | jair | liable: not capital, but are both places right? |
| 08:40.02 | jair | I saw |
| 08:40.04 | liable | jair: c space 2 |
| 08:40.20 | stew | jair: i used the 2.6.16 sarge installer and everything was auto detected |
| 08:40.26 | jair | liable: I see but I put it in the start area and also at the end? |
| 08:40.34 | *** join/#debian Maliuta (n=nikolai@kiev.lusan.id.au) |
| 08:40.37 | jair | liable: did you notice that? it is that correct? |
| 08:40.42 | liable | jair: did i say to put it at the start? |
| 08:40.52 | stew | Vikram: debian/changelog is in a very particular format, which is why using dch is recommended |
| 08:40.57 | jair | I think so, start bit |
| 08:41.00 | *** part/#debian AnAnt (n=anant@81.10.9.182) |
| 08:41.13 | liable | jair: the start function bit, the start-stop-daemon line |
| 08:41.27 | jair | stew: what about the regular installer does not detect that? |
| 08:41.36 | *** join/#debian pebblest` (n=user@i60-36-32-132.s04.a014.ap.plala.or.jp) |
| 08:41.37 | jair | stew: have you tryied? |
| 08:41.54 | jair | liable: ok I will remove it form the start line then |
| 08:41.58 | pebblest` | I need help, How to force install a package? |
| 08:42.27 | liable | pebblest`: man dpkg has several --force options depending on the need |
| 08:42.31 | stew | jair: this machine had an ethernet card which wasn't going to be recognized by the 2.6.8 kernel |
| 08:42.37 | stew | jair: (so i didn't bother) |
| 08:42.55 | *** join/#debian fwd (n=fwd@mm-200-157-57-86.adsl.mgts.by) |
| 08:42.56 | jair | liable: like this right? http://rafb.net/paste/results/T6jz8f19.html |
| 08:42.56 | pebblest` | liable: is there any examples? |
| 08:43.20 | jair | stew: the installer just come with more drivers ? |
| 08:43.29 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@vit94-1-89-82-249-82.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 08:44.03 | jair | stew: it is a way i can load the drivers from a usb drive or floppy during the installation with the 2.6.8 kernel installer? |
| 08:44.25 | stew | jair: maybe you should ignore me. it looks like this machine actually has sas not san. i wasn't paying close attention |
| 08:44.55 | stew | jair: only if they were already pre-compiled for the kernel that is on the installer |
| 08:45.14 | jair | stew: ohh ok |
| 08:45.28 | liable | pebblest`: read the page, then ask or google |
| 08:45.30 | stew | jair: do you know what controller you have? do you have a way to get the output of lspci / lspci -n? |
| 08:45.37 | liable | jair: yes |
| 08:45.37 | jair | liable: did you check the last paste url :( |
| 08:45.48 | liable | jair: patience is a virtue |
| 08:45.53 | pebblest` | ok, thanks |
| 08:45.53 | jair | haha |
| 08:45.57 | jair | liable: yes sir |
| 08:46.08 | jair | liable: ok now i will have to restart that deamon |
| 08:46.11 | cydork | !force |
| 08:46.11 | dpkg | well, force is a widely known, and not so well documented *cough* redhat /feature/. It's suppose to break.... right? |
| 08:48.02 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 08:48.14 | jair | liable: done Thank you very much i will have to check the machine tomorrow http://rafb.net/paste/results/A6JIsx26.html |
| 08:48.42 | jair | stew: where you can get that installer? |
| 08:48.50 | stew | jair: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
| 08:48.57 | liable | jair: you should be able to see if it works in 30 mins or so |
| 08:49.00 | stew | jair: have you tried 2.6.8? |
| 08:49.31 | jair | liable: all right I wonder what that little piece of code tells to that script |
| 08:49.47 | jair | stew: I will try but not now |
| 08:49.51 | liable | jair: man klogd |
| 08:49.54 | jair | I better go back to the bed |
| 08:49.59 | jair | liable: :) |
| 08:50.21 | jair | Thank you very much guys, Guerin, stew, liable :) |
| 08:50.56 | jair | I am going to sleep tomorrow check results here is almost 4:00am CDT I have to wake up in two hours |
| 08:51.00 | jair | :( |
| 08:51.11 | *** join/#debian Halitherses (n=Halither@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:51.14 | jair | it will be an interesting day tomorrow |
| 08:51.17 | nvz | heh |
| 08:51.21 | jair | I mean in two hours |
| 08:51.34 | Fox | better not sleep if you only have two hours left |
| 08:51.46 | jair | Fox: I have to |
| 08:51.49 | jair | I need to |
| 08:51.53 | nvz | yeah I am probably gonna go roofing in about two hours but I slept a bit already |
| 08:52.00 | jair | getting the super alarm ready |
| 08:52.07 | jair | good |
| 08:52.09 | jair | ok |
| 08:52.09 | jair | guys |
| 08:52.11 | *** join/#debian printk (n=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk) |
| 08:52.14 | jair | Have a good day |
| 08:52.35 | jair | sarge 2.6.16! |
| 08:52.43 | jair | sarge2.6.16! |
| 08:52.52 | jair | 2.6.16! |
| 08:52.57 | nvz | heh, the super alarm |
| 08:52.58 | liable | um, just sleep :P |
| 08:53.12 | nvz | I hate alarms.. they are.. well... alarming |
| 08:53.15 | jair | I wonder which one is the one that will give me the info about the kernel |
| 08:53.21 | jair | haha |
| 08:53.26 | nvz | last thing I want when I am resting is to be alarmed |
| 08:53.48 | nvz | if your house is on fire or something thats reason for alarm... but starting the day? |
| 08:53.58 | nvz | who the hell wants to be alarmed every damn morning |
| 08:54.03 | liable | nvz: i personally find my alarm rarely wakes me, i seem to wake up almost always about 5-10 mins before it, but i dont dare not set it.. |
| 08:54.19 | nvz | I found you just gotta learn when its that time and get your ass up |
| 08:54.35 | *** join/#debian sabbat_ (n=sabbat@203-206-127-87.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:55.33 | liable | well, i dont have strictly set working hours, so i dont have a standard wakey time |
| 08:55.58 | nvz | me either but I can still set my "clock" |
| 08:55.59 | liable | could be 4am, could be 10am |
| 08:56.05 | cydork | liable: why 4am? |
| 08:56.24 | liable | cydork: to go to work when i need to go to work :) |
| 08:56.27 | *** join/#debian Yamaraj (n=admin@59.94.42.154) |
| 08:56.32 | cydork | liable: which job is that? |
| 08:56.46 | nvz | cydork: male escort |
| 08:56.48 | liable | cydork: aviation |
| 08:56.55 | liable | !slap nvz |
| 08:56.55 | *** join/#debian berto- (i=notmgnb@71-92-200-228.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 08:56.58 | cydork | heheh |
| 08:56.59 | nvz | heh |
| 08:57.30 | cydork | liable: hmm so what do you work on actully? |
| 08:57.44 | nvz | oh well back to bed I missed out on some sweet dreams getting up this early |
| 08:58.51 | nvz | dream about stealing this dude's girlfriend |
| 08:59.31 | liable | cydork: i started a conversation that hijacked the channel last night, dont want to talk about myself two nights in a row :) |
| 09:00.06 | cydork | liable: so you are the one started the convo about planes yesterday? |
| 09:00.10 | cydork | !blame liable |
| 09:00.44 | nvz | everythings going as planned she was with me yesturday and no signs of him, and I am expecting her tomorrow with her laptop to be converted to my religion |
| 09:01.50 | cydork | nvz: in you dreams.. |
| 09:01.53 | cydork | :P |
| 09:01.58 | nvz | heh |
| 09:02.08 | *** join/#debian MindCr (n=MindCr@16.Red-83-52-59.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:02.19 | nvz | na I am installing debian on her computer.. I cant have my future ex-wife going to school with windows on her pc |
| 09:02.47 | nvz | thats just wrong |
| 09:03.04 | liable | how prophetic :) |
| 09:03.08 | nvz | heh.. I said "future ex-wife" and the windows part is what I am calling wrong |
| 09:03.10 | cydork | nvz: ya it's a question of ethics :) |
| 09:04.22 | nvz | my friend says that.. the I'm 24 and short, fat and bald just like my dego father guy.. |
| 09:04.37 | nvz | I shouldnt do anything he does. |
| 09:04.40 | liable | what you wish often happens, often subconsiously due to you wishing it... |
| 09:04.43 | nvz | but I find it funny at times |
| 09:05.00 | nvz | oh its happening I know this already |
| 09:05.06 | *** join/#debian Makenai (n=pawel@ip68-224-128-125.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 09:05.17 | nvz | divide and conquer |
| 09:05.24 | cydork | nvz: hehe |
| 09:05.40 | *** part/#debian Yamaraj (n=admin@59.94.42.154) |
| 09:05.44 | nvz | keep her busy with me as much as possible and soon he'll come around and she'll be like.. and who are you? |
| 09:06.03 | liable | short and bald you cant do anything about (i suffer both afflictions) fat you can.. |
| 09:06.21 | *** join/#debian g8m (n=evil@cp82868-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl) |
| 09:06.29 | nvz | yeah well its messed up when you are already bald that young |
| 09:06.37 | *** join/#debian amee2k (n=thomas@p5497FB7E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:06.42 | nvz | he's been balding since highschool |
| 09:06.58 | nvz | got that receding hairline many italians have really bad |
| 09:07.11 | nvz | I'll have one.. but not that bad |
| 09:07.45 | nvz | there are more important things science could fix than my hairline hopefully in my lifetime |
| 09:08.02 | liable | i couldnt care so much about either, but at least i dont have a lumpy head, and a crew cut suits me |
| 09:08.05 | azeem | nvz: dude, wrong channel |
| 09:08.34 | *** join/#debian Bushmills (n=l@wpc3131.amenworld.com) |
| 09:08.35 | liable | azeem: #debian is nvz's therapy, we should charge him! |
| 09:08.47 | nvz | heh |
| 09:09.10 | nvz | if I dont have anything to go on I make shit up |
| 09:09.24 | liable | really? never noticed.. :P |
| 09:09.31 | nvz | no? |
| 09:09.42 | liable | </sarcasm> |
| 09:10.01 | cydork | hehh |
| 09:10.07 | ma3x | wow liable you a coder? |
| 09:10.13 | nvz | haha |
| 09:10.28 | liable | ma3x: shit no, i learnt that from my good friends at /. |
| 09:10.41 | nvz | coder... *ml.. thats funny and I dont care who you are |
| 09:10.44 | *** join/#debian koollman6 (n=samson_t@impactjeh.plus.com) |
| 09:11.40 | ma3x | liable, you're a good boy |
| 09:11.47 | liable | ma3x: my mom tells me that all the time |
| 09:11.54 | nvz | I'd like to do a study to prove something outragous about that.. like the <></> crap makes people go crosseyed or something |
| 09:12.03 | nvz | causes impetency in men |
| 09:12.16 | liable | nvz: spelling mistakes too.. |
| 09:12.21 | nvz | yeah |
| 09:12.27 | nvz | thats just being an idiot |
| 09:12.42 | ma3x | liable, you're too good, everybody would say that |
| 09:12.56 | nvz | I joined the local id10t club when I was in pittsburgh. I am now a regional represenitive |
| 09:13.08 | |ryan| | hey |
| 09:13.13 | liable | ma3x: at what? and who is everybody? your sarcasm seems to be dripping onto your keyboard |
| 09:13.13 | nvz | thus why I travel so much |
| 09:13.33 | ma3x | nvz, of what? the idiot club? |
| 09:13.33 | nvz | heh, dyh |
| 09:13.42 | |ryan| | How does one set up exim to allow relaying for authenticated senders under debian? |
| 09:13.45 | nvz | thats the sothern form of duh |
| 09:14.06 | karsten | nvz: I thought it was "dyh, y'all" |
| 09:14.07 | ma3x | liable, nah, you ain't too good, i was just kiddin |
| 09:14.11 | |ryan| | or can I allow specific hostnames to relay? |
| 09:14.49 | ma3x | what's the western form? |
| 09:16.01 | Bushmills | |ryan|: not quite what you ask, but an alternative: using a vpn to the mail server allows you to 1.) hand out keys for authentication, and 2.) declare the vpn network as local addresses to exim, therefore not requiring relaying for sending mail through it. |
| 09:16.21 | ma3x | liable, washing the cd didn't work |
| 09:17.31 | *** join/#debian Kian|taffe (n=Kian@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-72.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:18.04 | |ryan| | Bushmills: I could do that. I already have openvpn set up on the server. However, that is not what I want to do. |
| 09:18.46 | *** join/#debian nocti (n=nocti@dial.dyn.150.239.surfsterisp.com) |
| 09:18.54 | *** join/#debian Fox_1_ (n=Ebless@dsl236-46.netsys.am) |
| 09:18.57 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 09:19.16 | Fox_1_ | how to change apt proxy, without apt-setup |
| 09:19.18 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 09:19.40 | karsten | Fox_1_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:20.00 | karsten | Fox_1_: ... you're configuring your system's apt mirrors, or you're configuring your apt-proxy server? |
| 09:20.16 | ma3x | when I do netstat, how do I omit those unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5065 - |
| 09:20.17 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.26 | liable | |ryan|: email is actually a really quite mind bending thing to set up. i dont know if theres a exim one, but theres a fairly comprehensive howto for setting up postfix. google 'debian postfix isp email' |
| 09:20.33 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.37 | Fox_1_ | karsten: proxy server |
| 09:20.45 | cydork | Fox_1_: man apt.conf |
| 09:20.58 | karsten | Fox_1_: What cydork said. |
| 09:21.00 | |ryan| | liable: I've set up plenty of mail servers, just not with smtp auth. |
| 09:21.00 | streuner | ma3x: did the 'washday' help? |
| 09:21.01 | Bushmills | Fox_1_: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 09:21.21 | liable | |ryan|: good luck to you then.. |
| 09:21.46 | Bushmills | put in st like Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy.address.or.name:port"; |
| 09:22.09 | ma3x | streuner, no way |
| 09:22.12 | |ryan| | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/280 < this looks helpful. |
| 09:22.22 | ma3x | streuner, im bringing it back to the theater |
| 09:23.58 | |ryan| | I would like to use PAM for authentication if possible. |
| 09:24.39 | *** join/#debian derek[] (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 09:25.08 | ma3x | streuner, infact it just gave me hopeless hope |
| 09:25.12 | Fox_1_ | as i understand it get from envirament variable http_proxy |
| 09:25.40 | *** join/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@83.212.201.3) |
| 09:27.34 | cydork | Fox_1_: envirment variable can be used also or as Bushmills said you can put it in the apt.conf |
| 09:28.01 | Fox_1_ | Bushmills: Acquire::??? |
| 09:28.18 | Fox | f*cking hl |
| 09:30.08 | *** join/#debian syntaxx (n=syntaxx@unaffiliated/syntaxx) |
| 09:30.20 | *** join/#debian tolecnal (n=tolecnal@25.80-203-130.nextgentel.com) |
| 09:31.41 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 09:33.08 | ma3x | whats hl? hilarious, hell, half-life? |
| 09:33.12 | *** join/#debian b00t (n=b00t@222.178.152.81) |
| 09:34.01 | *** join/#debian tengulre11 (n=tengulre@222.90.66.156) |
| 09:34.15 | *** join/#debian hburchey (n=harold@h129.sonartech.com.au) |
| 09:34.54 | *** join/#debian m0dular (n=modular@user-54406691.wfd78b.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 09:35.57 | hburchey | How do I change the default locale? I've tried reconfiguring locales and logging in again, but LANG is always set to en_AU.UTF-8 irrespective of what I changed the locale to. |
| 09:36.42 | *** join/#debian zzz (i=csaba198@caracas-4217.adsl.interware.hu) |
| 09:36.50 | zzz | Hi! I have an editor (joe), which is still in the processlist, and contains some important data for me, but i cannot reach the terminal - where it was started. Is it posibble to send a signal to joe to save its data? |
| 09:37.10 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 09:37.17 | *** join/#debian walletjes (n=tampon@91.84.56.24) |
| 09:40.42 | *** join/#debian proog (n=proog@unaffiliated/proog) |
| 09:40.55 | *** join/#debian SK|Asylum-gamese (n=christia@d-65-175-253-216.metrocast.net) |
| 09:41.16 | *** join/#debian DaveyB (n=Dave@cpc1-linc3-0-0-cust360.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:41.21 | SK|Asylum-gamese | how can i force a service stop i have tried svc -d but its not stoping the service |
| 09:41.23 | proog | how can i set the user 'per' to have no password= |
| 09:41.28 | proog | ? |
| 09:41.42 | proog | the = was a typo |
| 09:41.45 | *** join/#debian basti`DND (n=basti@M3f70.m.pppool.de) |
| 09:42.03 | *** join/#debian Nesquick (n=chatzill@unassigned-84-247-67-145.fibernet.ro) |
| 09:42.06 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@cl-38.muc-02.de.sixxs.net) |
| 09:42.08 | Nesquick | hi there |
| 09:42.15 | hburchey | SK|Asylum-gamese, /etc/init.d/someservice stop |
| 09:42.25 | Nesquick | i just want a apt.source |
| 09:42.27 | Nesquick | for etch |
| 09:42.27 | SK|Asylum-gamese | well i only want to kill on service |
| 09:42.28 | Nesquick | please |
| 09:42.37 | SK|Asylum-gamese | opps one service |
| 09:42.38 | Nesquick | or apt.lst |
| 09:42.48 | hburchey | SK|Asylum-gamese, Which service? |
| 09:43.05 | SK|Asylum-gamese | well i create /service/asytest/ |
| 09:43.07 | Nesquick | source.list |
| 09:43.09 | Nesquick | :) |
| 09:43.26 | SK|Asylum-gamese | it starts/ but i type svc -d /service/asytest and it doesnt stop it |
| 09:43.59 | cydork | !sources.list |
| 09:43.59 | dpkg | [sources.list] something like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free" where cc is your country code. |
| 09:44.04 | proog | i have tried editing the /etc/shadow file so there is no password for user per, but it doesn't work (gdm won't allow me to log in with no password) |
| 09:44.23 | proog | how can i remove the password for the user? |
| 09:44.59 | *** join/#debian derek_ (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 09:45.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 658] by debhelper |
| 09:45.15 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.36 | proog | because i removed the encrypted password from /etc/shadow |
| 09:46.18 | liable | so how do you think gdm should react, just by letting anyone log in as that user? |
| 09:46.40 | proog | ok... sÃs there any way to do it? |
| 09:46.43 | proog | *is |
| 09:46.59 | cydork | proog: wht happens if you try to login by console? |
| 09:47.42 | proog | how do i get to console login from gdm? |
| 09:48.04 | cydork | proog: ctrl+alt+F? |
| 09:48.35 | proog | no |
| 09:48.57 | cydork | no? |
| 09:48.57 | *** join/#debian l0st] (n=l0st@83.223.187.107) |
| 09:49.05 | proog | oh well nevermind, i need to go now |
| 09:49.08 | liable | proog: have a read of 'man adduser' you may find something of interest, or maybe not |
| 09:51.30 | MatBoy | for a server: is 1 GB enough for / and 100MB for /boot ? or will it fill up very soon ? OK. depends on your needs, but / /boot /tmp /usr /var /home are all seperate. I normally use 1GB for / but it;s on 54% now |
| 09:53.26 | dimir | That's fine. Well, if you can, add another GB to / and you'll be fine. |
| 09:53.42 | *** join/#debian aimtrainer (n=aimtrain@p54AF9E1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:54.07 | cydork | MatBoy: it's should be enough |
| 09:54.27 | *** part/#debian smellydog (n=shaof@211.160.165.186) |
| 09:55.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 650] by debhelper |
| 09:55.40 | MatBoy | cydork, / will never fill up the whole 1GB in your opnion ? |
| 09:55.55 | MatBoy | cydork, I have heard of / with 5 GB... nice... but a waste in my opnion |
| 09:56.29 | cydork | MatBoy: if you have /boot /tmp /usr /var /home all saperate 1 gb is enough |
| 09:56.42 | cydork | MatBoy: unless you install lot of stuff in /opt or something |
| 09:57.03 | liable | var and usr are the main hogs |
| 09:57.28 | MatBoy | cydork, I have always used this: / =>1GB /boot => 100MB /tmp => 1GB / /usr => 4GB /var => 8GB and for mysql and so on I use seperate partitions also |
| 09:57.34 | *** join/#debian jcwong (n=catalyst@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:daba:ae8e) |
| 09:57.57 | *** join/#debian rzk (n=ruzki@217-211-182-121-o871.telia.com) |
| 09:58.04 | MatBoy | !beer cydork to forget /opt |
| 09:58.18 | liable | MatBoy: should be perfectly sufficient |
| 09:58.21 | *** join/#debian wizzomafizzo (n=wizzo@80.34.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 09:58.39 | *** join/#debian Suprano (n=anonym00@Ob6c8.o.pppool.de) |
| 09:58.53 | MatBoy | liable, thanks ! I have compared so many times :) Just use it for 2 years now... but I thought... let's ask it again :) |
| 09:59.00 | *** part/#debian cast (n=cast@fsf/member/cast) |
| 09:59.30 | DaveyB | Hi guys, when I try to install NDIS Wrapper I get this error message, any ideas why? |
| 09:59.50 | dimir | NDIS Wrapper error: this |
| 09:59.54 | dimir | ? |
| 09:59.56 | DaveyB | make[3]: *** [/home/daveyb/ndiswrapper-1.21/driver/hal.o] Error 1 |
| 09:59.56 | DaveyB | make[2]: *** [_module_/home/daveyb/ndiswrapper-1.21/driver] Error 2 |
| 09:59.56 | DaveyB | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386' |
| 09:59.56 | DaveyB | make[1]: *** [default] Error 2 |
| 09:59.56 | DaveyB | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daveyb/ndiswrapper-1.21/driver' |
| 09:59.56 | *** kick/#debian [DaveyB!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 09:59.59 | cydork | hehe |
| 10:00.01 | dimir | hoho |
| 10:00.06 | *** join/#debian DaveyB (n=Dave@cpc1-linc3-0-0-cust360.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:00.08 | sussudio | idiot |
| 10:00.12 | sussudio | !moron DaveyB |
| 10:00.12 | dpkg | DaveyB: You are moron #11 |
| 10:00.13 | DaveyB | sorry |
| 10:00.19 | cydork | !paster |
| 10:00.20 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 10:00.25 | cydork | DaveyB: use ^^ |
| 10:00.53 | *** join/#debian omal (n=omal@cpe-24-164-111-184.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 10:00.56 | liable | DaveyB: to make matters worse, you didnt even paste the relevant error.. |
| 10:01.10 | dimir | and the thing you should consider is above those. |
| 10:01.10 | liable | !error |
| 10:01.11 | dpkg | The error is on line 89373 |
| 10:01.18 | liable | dpkg: you fool |
| 10:01.18 | dpkg | aah, who's the fool now liable |
| 10:01.27 | cydork | hehe |
| 10:01.33 | DaveyB | http://channels.debian.net/paste/3868 |
| 10:01.34 | SK|Asylum-gamese | when i type ps ax is there a way to only show the process id number and not the rest? |
| 10:01.42 | omal | hm. I have two boxes both running etch. The sources.list for each is identical. Yet for some reason the older box finds moinmoin-common, and the one built this week does not |
| 10:02.06 | sussudio | %bear liable |
| 10:02.36 | dimir | SK|Asylum-gamese: ps ax | awk '{print $1}' |
| 10:03.03 | *** join/#debian Deepa|AFK (i=deepa@abused.armchairs.be) |
| 10:03.23 | *** join/#debian _sussi (n=su@217-68-177-151.dynamic.primacom.net) |
| 10:03.50 | cydork | DaveyB: #error "gcc 3.4 or newer should be used for compiling this module" |
| 10:03.52 | dimir | SK|Asylum-gamese: and what's with the nick? |
| 10:04.01 | SK|Asylum-gamese | ??? |
| 10:04.02 | *** join/#debian lanjelot (n=lanj@45.64.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 10:04.03 | dimir | !nickometer SK|Asylum-gamese |
| 10:04.04 | dpkg | 'SK|Asylum-gamese' is 50.000% lame, dimir |
| 10:04.05 | liable | badgers: voyeur! |
| 10:04.06 | badgers | liable: no idea |
| 10:04.20 | DaveyB | How do I download the newest version of FCC cydork ? |
| 10:04.24 | liable | badgers: idiot |
| 10:04.24 | badgers | I know you are, but what am I?, or someone who tries to use a Ubuntu package on Debian and calls it a dpkg issue when dependencies dont resolve |
| 10:04.28 | DaveyB | GCC* |
| 10:04.36 | SK|Asylum-gamese | !nickometer dimir |
| 10:04.37 | dpkg | 'dimir' is 0.000% lame, sk|asylum-gamese |
| 10:04.41 | dimir | \o/ |
| 10:04.42 | SK|Asylum-gamese | lol |
| 10:05.01 | *** join/#debian mk3y (n=mkey@pD9E35793.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:05.10 | liable | SK|Asylum-gamese: never heard of the phrase 'he who live in glass houses"? |
| 10:05.15 | *** join/#debian jindal (i=bqqmg@h678631.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 10:05.15 | dimir | DaveyB: you install it using your distro's package manager. |
| 10:05.23 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 10:05.32 | MatBoy | cydork, wanna make love again ?? :P |
| 10:05.38 | MatBoy | !love cydork |
| 10:05.43 | DaveyB | dimir: apt-get install <then what goes here> |
| 10:05.50 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 10:06.16 | liable | sussudio: does badgers still have swear words? apparently thats not um, acceptable anymore.. |
| 10:06.23 | dimir | DaveyB: apt-get install gcc-4.1 |
| 10:06.26 | jindal | if cydork dont hav hair ?? :P |
| 10:06.26 | omal | AHA its in unstable now. hm |
| 10:06.51 | liable | jindal: or ears! |
| 10:06.52 | jindal | :) |
| 10:06.53 | *** join/#debian yel (n=yassine@xdsl-84-44-153-82.netcologne.de) |
| 10:06.58 | jindal | hullo all |
| 10:07.05 | cydork | jindal, liable i do have both (atm) |
| 10:07.18 | DaveyB | dimir: All ready tried that and it can't find the package. Any other suggestions, thanks for your help so far. |
| 10:07.31 | cydork | DaveyB: which version of debian are you using? |
| 10:07.35 | dimir | DaveyB: but for available in your sources list you should first run: apt-cache search gcc | grep 'The GNU C compiler' |
| 10:08.10 | dimir | DaveyB: check what latest you have, gcc-4.0? |
| 10:08.31 | MatBoy | jikuty, he can't shave his everywhere I think :P |
| 10:08.44 | MatBoy | jindal, ^^ |
| 10:08.53 | dimir | DaveyB: I assume you know about 'apt-get update'. |
| 10:08.55 | jindal | :) |
| 10:09.31 | DaveyB | cydork: I am using Debian 3.1r3 (i386), using the 2.6.8-2-386 kernel |
| 10:10.08 | *** join/#debian Krobelus (n=user@c211-30-82-142.blktn4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:10.15 | DaveyB | cydork: gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) |
| 10:10.15 | DaveyB | , tried both apt-get update and apt-cache search gcc | grep 'The GNU C compiler', neither can find the packages |
| 10:10.17 | liable | hehe, apt-listbugs tells me theres a bug in apt-listbugs |
| 10:10.29 | liable | how ironic |
| 10:10.41 | *** join/#debian DiamonD (n=Admin@wbd-326d8.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 10:10.44 | DiamonD | Hi pplz |
| 10:10.56 | *** part/#debian omal (n=omal@cpe-24-164-111-184.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 10:11.09 | DiamonD | it's a simple question i'v got but i don't know ;p |
| 10:11.20 | DiamonD | hoe can unpack or install .deb files |
| 10:11.37 | petemc | dpkg -i file.deb |
| 10:11.39 | liable | !reference |
| 10:11.39 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/#contents . Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 10:11.51 | liable | dpkg: ^^ read it, its a great howto for new users |
| 10:12.00 | liable | DiamonD: ^^^ |
| 10:12.07 | DaveyB | dimir: Do you have any other ideas? |
| 10:12.16 | dimir | dafey: you can get a cluw from backports.org |
| 10:12.23 | dimir | DaveyB too |
| 10:13.10 | DaveyB | dimir: Doubt that, the HOWTO and FAQ section is down. :( |
| 10:13.23 | dimir | You don't need those. |
| 10:13.33 | cydork | DaveyB: why dont you use ndiswrapper in sarge? |
| 10:13.52 | dimir | haha, these guys went to wiki and now their website is fscked. :-P |
| 10:14.02 | DaveyB | cydork: When I type ndiswrapper in su I get command not found |
| 10:14.34 | dimir | DaveyB: check Home->Introduction and Instructions. |
| 10:14.39 | dimir | Should be enough. |
| 10:14.47 | cydork | DaveyB: you have to install it. |
| 10:14.50 | *** join/#debian PDani_ (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 10:15.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 659] by debhelper |
| 10:15.05 | cydork | DaveyB: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils |
| 10:16.00 | DaveyB | cydork: I LOVE YOU |
| 10:16.09 | DaveyB | :) Thanks buddy, I owe you a pint |
| 10:16.49 | dimir | And it seems gcc isn't in backports. |
| 10:17.11 | liable | tis so |
| 10:19.27 | *** join/#debian bruno (n=bruno@zen.via.ecp.fr) |
| 10:19.53 | *** join/#debian Nesquick (n=chatzill@unassigned-84-247-67-145.fibernet.ro) |
| 10:19.55 | Hoxzer | hmmm |
| 10:20.55 | *** part/#debian Nesquick (n=chatzill@unassigned-84-247-67-145.fibernet.ro) |
| 10:21.54 | Talisker[w] | How often should I be running apt-get update? |
| 10:22.04 | *** join/#debian derek[] (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 10:22.24 | johnnyss | I have installed linux-image-2.6.17-2-xen-k7 in etch. |
| 10:22.31 | cydork | Talisker[w]: you running sarge or etch? (you should not be running sid) |
| 10:22.31 | rzk | Talisker[w] maybe once or twice every week |
| 10:22.31 | johnnyss | where do I get the source packages? |
| 10:22.40 | johnnyss | that have the xen patches included. |
| 10:22.51 | Talisker[w] | Here's another thing, anyway to convert my system from testing to stable? |
| 10:23.02 | streuner | reinstall |
| 10:23.04 | cydork | Talisker[w]: not possible :) |
| 10:23.04 | Talisker[w] | cydork, sarge = stable, etch = testing, sid = unstable? |
| 10:23.07 | Talisker[w] | crap |
| 10:23.09 | johnnyss | The problem I have is that linux-image-2.6.17-2-xen-k7 dose not include ext3 file system. |
| 10:23.21 | johnnyss | so I can not boot an xen domain. |
| 10:23.42 | *** join/#debian desti (n=desti@p50923B21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:23.43 | *** join/#debian tarzeau2 (i=sengun@bludger.ethz.ch) |
| 10:23.47 | Talisker[w] | Anyway, I'm running testing, I think that's etch |
| 10:23.51 | Talisker[w] | At home I'm running sid |
| 10:23.53 | johnnyss | Is there some way to load modules into an xen domin? |
| 10:24.05 | johnnyss | I get this now.. |
| 10:24.05 | petemc | johnnyss: huh? im pretty sure it does... |
| 10:24.23 | johnnyss | Registering block device major 8 |
| 10:24.27 | MindCr | Talisker[w], yo can upgrade but not downgrade. |
| 10:24.43 | johnnyss | No filesystem could mount root, tried: cramfs |
| 10:24.56 | johnnyss | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1) |
| 10:24.57 | Talisker[w] | Anyway just to downgrade my packages to the latest stable release? |
| 10:25.31 | petemc | johnnyss: you sure its not initrd problems? debian xen kernels dont automatically configure grub correctly |
| 10:25.36 | *** join/#debian niru (n=niru@203.129.255.178) |
| 10:25.48 | niru | I am using anaconda on debian |
| 10:25.52 | johnnyss | it is an initrd |
| 10:25.56 | johnnyss | problem. |
| 10:25.56 | MindCr | Talisker[w], a new sarge install from cd |
| 10:26.07 | johnnyss | I use standard etch kernel. |
| 10:26.17 | niru | I want to set some languages as default with english |
| 10:26.31 | niru | where do I need to modify in anaconda |
| 10:26.41 | *** join/#debian homme_seul (n=homme_se@196.203.53.221) |
| 10:26.50 | johnnyss | So what do I need to add to grub then? |
| 10:27.12 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-252-109.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:27.24 | petemc | johnnyss: read one of the many guides on the web |
| 10:27.47 | johnnyss | I have tried that. |
| 10:27.58 | johnnyss | but have not found out how to load modules yet.. |
| 10:28.03 | tarzeau2 | !popcon |
| 10:28.03 | dpkg | somebody said popcon was the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:28.07 | johnnyss | thats why I ask here. |
| 10:28.20 | petemc | johnnyss: did you configure grub as per one of those guides? |
| 10:28.50 | *** join/#debian derka (n=derka@crn93-1-82-237-178-115.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:28.53 | *** part/#debian derka (n=derka@crn93-1-82-237-178-115.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:29.05 | SK|Asylum-gamese | how do i create a pid file for my app? |
| 10:29.52 | johnnyss | petemc, we will try another way.. |
| 10:30.18 | johnnyss | petemc, I come back if it failes.. |
| 10:30.20 | cydork | niru: anaconda? |
| 10:30.41 | petemc | johnnyss: do some more reading if it fails, and dont make silly assumptions like the kernel has no ext3 support.. |
| 10:34.24 | johnnyss | petemc, well acording to the /boot/config-2.6.17-2-xen-k7 debian installed file so is ext3 set to m =module and cramfs = y thats why it dose not try ext3 when it can't load modules.. |
| 10:34.24 | Talisker[w] | Is it possible that the samba pack on the pat repo is different then the normal samba binary? |
| 10:35.11 | DiamonD | pplz i have a problem |
| 10:35.15 | DiamonD | can i past it overhere |
| 10:35.17 | DiamonD | ? |
| 10:35.27 | DiamonD | paste* |
| 10:35.28 | DiamonD | ? |
| 10:36.14 | johnnyss | petemc, also lsmod showes ext3 is a module when I booted the system.. |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | (Reading database ... 89144 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | Preparing to replace libcurl3-openssl-dev 7.15.5-1 (using libcurl3-openssl-dev_7.15.5-1_i386.deb) ... |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | Unpacking replacement libcurl3-openssl-dev ... |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libcurl3-openssl-dev: |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.42 | DiamonD | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.42 | *** kick/#debian [DiamonD!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 10:36.56 | *** join/#debian DiamonD (n=Admin@wbd-326d8.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 10:37.06 | DiamonD | sorry for the flood |
| 10:37.14 | petemc | johnnyss: ok, whatever - good luck solving your "ext3" problem |
| 10:37.27 | johnnyss | petemc, thanks :) |
| 10:38.06 | *** join/#debian niru (n=niru@203.129.255.178) |
| 10:38.27 | *** join/#debian Nibbier (n=sven@port-212-202-73-41.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:39.06 | *** join/#debian Dianora (n=db@adsl-155-151-198.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 10:39.10 | *** join/#debian Yvonne (n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne) |
| 10:40.12 | *** join/#debian opensores (n=OS@client-82-19-19-61.mant.adsl.ntlworld.com) |
| 10:41.58 | *** join/#debian tombs (n=tombs@ip5650dcfa.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 10:44.28 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 10:45.26 | *** join/#debian SimAtWork___ (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) |
| 10:46.52 | DaveyB | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.56 | DaveyB | any ideas? |
| 10:47.02 | *** join/#debian eXiSt (n=eXiStaxx@81.215.105.147) |
| 10:47.07 | eXiSt | hi |
| 10:47.11 | DaveyB | s/this is my passwor/thisismypassword |
| 10:48.06 | |ryan| | how do you find out what dynamic major is assigned to what driver? |
| 10:48.51 | SK|Asylum-gamese | how can i create a pid file? |
| 10:48.56 | foony | is it possible to hide kernel messages when the system is booting up ? (it would be even better if it could be like ubuntu startup) |
| 10:49.37 | eXiSt | sygate online security scan result : Secure Shell Open = SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 Debian-8.sarge.4 |
| 10:49.51 | petemc | SK|Asylum-gamese: read /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 10:49.51 | eXiSt | how can it take the version of os and ssh server? |
| 10:49.59 | eXiSt | how can i disable it? |
| 10:50.06 | petemc | eXiSt: the banner |
| 10:50.15 | fernet | foony, look into "splashy" |
| 10:50.41 | eXiSt | petemc ? |
| 10:51.34 | Guerin | eXiSt: why would you want to? |
| 10:52.08 | eXiSt | less information for probes |
| 10:52.18 | eXiSt | security purpose ofcourse |
| 10:52.19 | Guerin | eXiSt: information is useless. |
| 10:52.30 | Guerin | obscurity != security |
| 10:52.52 | eXiSt | Guerin version information is useless? |
| 10:53.02 | eXiSt | hehe it useless for u i think |
| 10:53.06 | petemc | .. |
| 10:53.09 | Guerin | eXiSt: it's useless on its own. |
| 10:53.29 | petemc | eXiSt: so, the smart people that created openssh etc, they overlooked this big issue that you seem to have found? |
| 10:53.47 | Guerin | eXiSt: if a service is vulnerable, it should be made invulnerable, regardlerss of what version information it shows |
| 10:54.08 | Guerin | eXiSt: if it isn't known to be vulnerable, then the information shown about it is irrelevant. |
| 10:54.28 | eXiSt | these smart people think only their project not all debian-8.sarge.4 services |
| 10:54.54 | petemc | sure they do |
| 10:54.57 | Guerin | eXiSt: you miss the point. |
| 10:55.42 | Guerin | eXiSt: i bet you're one of those people who want to chroot their users, too |
| 10:55.47 | Guerin | so they can't hack the mainframe |
| 10:58.23 | eXiSt | ok now i asked if there is any way to disable this information.. you look to situation from philosophy way |
| 10:58.27 | eXiSt | ok thank you |
| 10:59.24 | petemc | eXiSt: i told you the name for it - the banner, you can use that to further your investigation |
| 10:59.57 | eXiSt | thanks petemc |
| 11:00.16 | eXiSt | i couldnt understand what the banner is |
| 11:00.19 | eXiSt | thank you |
| 11:01.37 | *** join/#debian sstainlesmice (n=nimda@61-56-189-250.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 11:01.49 | *** join/#debian Danamania (n=Snak@103.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au) |
| 11:02.56 | *** join/#debian xorllu (n=xorllu@ira.cs.llu.lv) |
| 11:02.56 | *** join/#debian D-side3 (n=rydekull@80-192-6-89.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 653] by debhelper |
| 11:05.07 | *** join/#debian Dario (n=jmjames@80-192-6-89.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:06.56 | *** join/#debian xopher (n=xopher@a84-230-121-147.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 11:07.21 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (n=yogurt2u@24-48-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 11:07.53 | *** join/#debian NLoRD_ (n=mikeg@83.212.201.3) |
| 11:08.01 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p508923E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.17 | *** part/#debian NLoRD_ (n=mikeg@83.212.201.3) |
| 11:08.30 | *** join/#debian kuene (i=ERROR@fw-hgkz.hgkz.ch) |
| 11:08.54 | DaveyB | This is my problem with WIFI, please help: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3869 |
| 11:08.55 | *** join/#debian lucas42 (n=Luke@vpn-068.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk) |
| 11:09.12 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@62-90-76-238.barak.net.il) |
| 11:09.22 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.67.232.101) |
| 11:09.48 | *** join/#debian tarzeau (n=tarzeau@80-219-77-183.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 11:10.09 | *** join/#debian Abdool (n=claritas@213.186.162.247) |
| 11:11.13 | *** join/#debian raj (n=sneharaj@203.129.239.221) |
| 11:11.35 | DiamonD | hi |
| 11:11.41 | DiamonD | can someone help me with a problem |
| 11:11.45 | DiamonD | where can i paste |
| 11:11.46 | DiamonD | ? |
| 11:11.50 | beardy | !pastebin |
| 11:11.56 | *** join/#debian dpkg (n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:11.56 | DiamonD | !pastbin |
| 11:11.57 | beardy | !paste |
| 11:11.58 | dpkg | somebody said paste was Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 11:12.00 | raj | how to priorities a process in linux |
| 11:12.08 | beardy | raj: man nice |
| 11:12.09 | *** part/#debian ahfeel (n=ahfeel@84.207.19.58) |
| 11:12.13 | *** join/#debian ch4n5 (n=pradeep@221.134.247.93) |
| 11:12.23 | liable | DaveyB: try it without the s:foo, just key foo |
| 11:12.44 | raj | is it possible to priorities a process which is already running |
| 11:13.05 | beardy | raj: man renice |
| 11:13.11 | *** join/#debian [Hazard] (i=h4zard@ver73-1-82-239-38-135.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:13.23 | beardy | raj: Yes. |
| 11:13.48 | DaveyB | liable, same thing. |
| 11:13.56 | ch4n5 | Hi, In my Debian DVD the base system is corrupted. So how and where can I get an alternative base system? |
| 11:13.57 | *** join/#debian Thlayli (n=bigwig@p54976BA8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:14.02 | *** join/#debian roger21 (n=roger21@mister.homedns.org) |
| 11:14.04 | cydork | DaveyB: it's ascii string? |
| 11:14.05 | Thlayli | i need help :( |
| 11:14.13 | DaveyB | cydork: yep |
| 11:14.13 | Thlayli | my friend installed a vserver via webmin on his debian box |
| 11:14.23 | Thlayli | he assigned the same ip as the base system to it |
| 11:14.25 | Thlayli | now we can't login anymore |
| 11:14.29 | Thlayli | all we got is the recovery console |
| 11:14.31 | Thlayli | how do i remove the vserver? |
| 11:14.45 | cydork | DaveyB: then s: is needed did you try giving hexadecimal format |
| 11:15.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 663] by debhelper |
| 11:15.15 | *** join/#debian factorx^arbeit (n=asdf@physalis.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 11:15.30 | stoned | oh man |
| 11:15.35 | stoned | today is going to be a fantastic day at work |
| 11:15.59 | stoned | I went to bed at like 9 last night and woke up at 5:30, gotta be in at work for 7. Fresh, awake, up and ready to bust ass |
| 11:16.00 | stoned | :D |
| 11:16.21 | stoned | finally caught up on my sleep |
| 11:16.32 | beardy | stoned: "bust ass".. what is your work exactly? |
| 11:16.47 | stoned | I manage girls |
| 11:16.49 | DaveyB | I don't know what it would be in hexadecimal. How do I even know if my WIFI card can find the Router? |
| 11:16.51 | stoned | nah |
| 11:16.59 | stoned | I'm a sales manager at a fortune 500 computer company |
| 11:17.14 | stoned | I sit in my office all day and maybe fix problems my reps come to me with |
| 11:17.16 | *** join/#debian zophyx (n=Emile@pdpc/supporter/student/zophyx) |
| 11:17.17 | raj | beardy: is it require root permission to set priorities |
| 11:17.21 | stoned | basically I hold the floor down |
| 11:17.33 | DaveyB | I think I was writing my password wrong |
| 11:17.34 | DaveyB | Shit sorry |
| 11:18.01 | beardy | raj: For other peoples processes yes. You as a user can only set the prioroty of your own processes, and never to a higher prioroty, only lower. |
| 11:18.06 | cydork | stoned: hmm nice job :P |
| 11:18.11 | *** join/#debian anapivirtua_ (n=anapi@AMarseille-153-1-57-200.w86-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:18.11 | stoned | lol |
| 11:18.12 | stoned | yup |
| 11:18.48 | beardy | raj: So mostly yes, you have to be root to do most things which has to do with changing priorities. |
| 11:20.32 | *** part/#debian Abdool (n=claritas@213.186.162.247) |
| 11:21.58 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@V4e48.v.pppool.de) |
| 11:24.11 | *** join/#debian RWH (n=itwontbe@hog.dcinteract.com) |
| 11:24.18 | PDani_ | where can i put these resource information of xterm to keep them permanently? |
| 11:25.19 | Guerin | PDani_: ~/.Xresources, and put in .xsession xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources |
| 11:26.09 | PDani_ | Guerin: and if i want these setting system-wide? |
| 11:26.11 | raj | beardy: thankyou |
| 11:27.24 | beardy | raj: You're welcome. |
| 11:27.41 | fernet | PDani, /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm |
| 11:27.43 | Guerin | !system wide |
| 11:27.43 | dpkg | People who want to make things 'system wide' (aliases, environment variable changes, etc.) are control freaks. Leave your poor users alone. |
| 11:27.53 | johnnyss | base-config what is the name for this package in ech? |
| 11:27.55 | johnnyss | etch |
| 11:31.36 | roger21 | hi, i'm looking for an acdsee image viewer clone and i saw there is gqview, gtksee and gimageview so .. who's the best? |
| 11:31.55 | *** part/#debian raj (n=sneharaj@203.129.239.221) |
| 11:32.00 | sstainlesmice | ... |
| 11:32.16 | amphi | roger21: also gthumb, porbview, feh, ... |
| 11:32.23 | *** part/#debian sstainlesmice (n=nimda@61-56-189-250.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 11:32.24 | amphi | roger21: er, pornview |
| 11:32.27 | zamuro | kuickshow |
| 11:32.41 | roger21 | no kde, no gnome |
| 11:32.56 | *** join/#debian SimAtWork___ (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) |
| 11:33.22 | Guerin | gqview is the best I found |
| 11:33.30 | Guerin | feh is also good, but it's no acdsee clone |
| 11:33.55 | amphi | roger21: gqview doesn't link to gnome stuff, just gtk AFAIK |
| 11:34.40 | amphi | roger21: there's also zgv for console (svgalib) |
| 11:34.51 | *** join/#debian elias_ (n=elias@chello062178032026.11.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 11:35.06 | amphi | roger21: ISTR there being ab x version, but I haven't tried it |
| 11:37.19 | *** join/#debian debq (n=debq@dslc-082-082-074-243.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:37.30 | liable | simple but usable |
| 11:38.17 | *** join/#debian bronze_|| (n=Lester@c-24-91-157-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 11:39.05 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@BSN-77-157-214.dsl.siol.net) |
| 11:40.50 | roger21 | yep i know gqview and i like it but i was wondering if the two other (gtksee and gimageview) are better |
| 11:41.40 | zamuro | roger21: That depends on your own personal opinion. Try them all and make a choice based on which one suits your needs better. |
| 11:41.51 | *** join/#debian Khellendros (n=JD@about/copyleft/pdpc.active.HellDragon) |
| 11:44.05 | *** join/#debian redloff_ (i=redloff@black.bee.pl) |
| 11:45.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 657] by debhelper |
| 11:48.06 | *** join/#debian mxFonseca (n=irc@201.53.225.32) |
| 11:48.24 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 11:49.09 | *** part/#debian mxFonseca (n=irc@201.53.225.32) |
| 11:49.16 | *** join/#debian snarf (n=snarf@74.128.226.59) |
| 11:53.14 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:53.15 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
| 11:53.36 | liable | hrm, i saw a question like that yesterday.. |
| 11:53.58 | *** join/#debian wdamn (n=marcello@teotihuacan.nekhem.com) |
| 11:55.23 | anapivirtua_ | Pom Pom Pom² all |
| 11:55.54 | cydork | anapivirtua: ya, well same to you |
| 11:57.20 | liable | cydork: you actually understood what that meant? |
| 11:57.40 | cydork | liable: nope :) |
| 11:57.53 | liable | heh |
| 11:58.31 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.46) |
| 11:58.34 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 11:58.37 | cydork | :P |
| 11:59.08 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@tor/regular/Piet) |
| 12:02.48 | Malagmyr | What's it called again when I make the word "password" be something like "az834kaummau"? |
| 12:02.52 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:02.57 | Malagmyr | like they are in /etc/shadow |
| 12:04.28 | *** join/#debian k-man___ (n=mythtv@59.167.31.100) |
| 12:04.28 | zophyx | gentoo has more |
| 12:04.36 | k-man___ | evening all |
| 12:04.43 | zophyx | hi |
| 12:05.01 | jes-o-mat | malagmyr: it's done by the crypt() function |
| 12:05.18 | *** join/#debian mariust (n=mariust@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:05.24 | zophyx | #gentoo has more participants than #debian |
| 12:05.30 | mariust | anyone got sound working with ltsp? |
| 12:05.34 | Ronin | what of it zophyx ? |
| 12:06.10 | zophyx | Ronin: i am wondering about the significance of that |
| 12:06.19 | Malagmyr | debbbbian is still the best. fuck the crowd. |
| 12:06.29 | zophyx | i wov my debian |
| 12:06.35 | zophyx | wuv |
| 12:06.39 | Ronin | zophyx: nothing at all i suspect |
| 12:06.40 | zophyx | yeah, i wuv it |
| 12:07.44 | jes-o-mat | really intellectual conversion ... |
| 12:08.20 | cydork | wuv? |
| 12:08.24 | liable | does that mean they have larger penises? or is it as exactly as i think, that it has no fucking meaning whatsoever? |
| 12:08.25 | Ronin | jes-o-mat: better then many worse then others |
| 12:08.29 | zophyx | is there a debian package that will build the debian distro from source ? |
| 12:09.05 | Malagmyr | Can someone explain, in an easy way, why the heck a public keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey, which was used to encrypt something, can't be used the decrypt it? I don't get it. |
| 12:09.08 | zophyx | like...... make debian ? |
| 12:09.08 | cydork | zophyx: not the whole distro but you can build everything except some base packages. |
| 12:09.17 | zophyx | ahhh |
| 12:09.41 | mariust | anyone using ltsp? |
| 12:09.45 | cydork | Malagmyr: huh? |
| 12:09.51 | fireba11 | Malagmyr: the whole point in private/public keys is only the guy with the private key can decrypt it |
| 12:09.55 | *** join/#debian mrew (n=mrew@warner.force9.co.uk) |
| 12:09.56 | cydork | Malagmyr: do you mean md5 or something? |
| 12:10.17 | cydork | Malagmyr: nm |
| 12:10.27 | zophyx | i thought you encrypted with the private key |
| 12:10.37 | Malagmyr | fireball: exactly. But why can't the process of encrypting it not be easily reversed? |
| 12:10.39 | zophyx | and the public key decrypted it |
| 12:11.49 | zophyx | if you could encrypt with the public then anyone could encrypt anything as anyone and it would be confusing |
| 12:12.42 | zophyx | i'm confused just thinking about the confusion that is only a thought experiment at this point in time |
| 12:13.24 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:13.30 | Malagmyr | zophyx: the reason the private key is called the private key is because you keep it to yourself. people encrypt stuff with your public key and send it your way, and only you can read it |
| 12:13.43 | zophyx | ! |
| 12:13.58 | Malagmyr | but why the heck can't the encryption process be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeversed? why can't anyone with the public key decrypt the message? |
| 12:14.09 | azeem | Malagmyr: think about it |
| 12:14.28 | azeem | Malagmyr: the reverse is signature-checking, btw |
| 12:14.48 | *** join/#debian Kian|taffe (n=Kian@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-72.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:15.36 | *** join/#debian Rhizome (n=Rhizome@host-81-191-147-145.bluecom.no) |
| 12:17.02 | *** join/#debian homme_seul (n=homme_se@196.203.53.221) |
| 12:17.10 | Malagmyr | I still don't get it though. When youencrypt something, there's something specific you do to it, right? You add some numbers, move some stuff around, use a sentence to encrypt it... that is all reversiblee. How can you possibly do something that can't be reveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeersed? |
| 12:17.11 | *** join/#debian martin0 (i=martin@p5083E4D9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:17.18 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.25 | Ronin | Malagmyr: e problems on your keyboard? |
| 12:17.49 | azeem | Malagmyr: it can be reversed with the private key, just not the public key |
| 12:17.58 | zophyx | one day my mother said that a cat jumped inside of her |
| 12:17.59 | azeem | Malagmyr: read a book on security, this is off-optic here |
| 12:18.02 | Malagmyr | Sorry about the horrible spelling. Using XChat over a very slow vnc connection |
| 12:18.08 | *** join/#debian Rope (n=rope@190.49.65.186) |
| 12:18.09 | homme_seul | is there any problem with debian in disk space usage ? am getting all my debian servers saying 'no space left on device', df -h shows that there's free space ! |
| 12:18.41 | *** join/#debian lastnode (n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu) |
| 12:18.42 | azeem | homme_seul: maybe some other partition than you think is full |
| 12:18.53 | lastnode | what is the base-config or apt-setup equivalent in etch? |
| 12:20.03 | *** join/#debian malagmyr_ (n=malagmyr@ti211310a080-3531.bb.online.no) |
| 12:20.13 | malagmyr_ | ok, fuck vnc |
| 12:20.19 | cydork | lastnode: no apt-setup in etch. |
| 12:20.38 | lastnode | cydork, equivalent? what about for base-config? |
| 12:21.26 | malagmyr_ | If i've gotten this right, though... Someone encrypts something with your public key, someone else, who has your public key, grabs the message and can't decrypt it using the same public key. Why? |
| 12:21.35 | *** join/#debian bhagabhi (n=bhagabhi@h201n3c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 12:21.35 | cydork | lastnode: it's done by the installer .. |
| 12:21.36 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:21.42 | cydork | lastnode: what do you need? |
| 12:21.50 | lastnode | cydork, what if you want to do it again (im asking for a friend) |
| 12:21.54 | *** join/#debian Schocko (n=Schocko@T306c.t.pppool.de) |
| 12:22.06 | Schocko | hey |
| 12:22.07 | *** join/#debian baroni (n=baroni@c906a702.virtua.com.br) |
| 12:22.10 | zophyx | Malagmyr: i don't think that makes any sense at all |
| 12:22.11 | *** join/#debian the_Cat (n=jgrund@81-232-98-185-no13.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 12:22.16 | *** join/#debian Braindead (n=braindea@81-208-60-194.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 12:22.19 | zophyx | i might be wrong |
| 12:22.21 | *** part/#debian colingrady (n=colingra@user-11faknm.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 12:22.29 | zophyx | but why would you |
| 12:22.36 | zophyx | do that ? |
| 12:22.46 | *** join/#debian KernelPanique (n=guest@83.166.220.142) |
| 12:22.47 | cydork | Malagmyr: coz you need the private key to decrypt |
| 12:23.20 | Shadur | malagmyr_: That's why it's called Asymmetric key encryption. |
| 12:24.16 | malagmyr_ | cydork: so they've told me. but why do you need it? WHY? All you've done is change the data being sent, based on the public key. Why can't you just do that the other way around? What's stopping you? I can't find anything that explains exactly that. I've found hundreds of pages that explains how it works, but not why decrypting with the same key wont work. |
| 12:24.30 | cydork | lastnode: no need to. :P |
| 12:24.45 | *** join/#debian lgd_ (n=lgd_@host189-118.pool8252.interbusiness.it) |
| 12:25.05 | Shadur | There's a metric shitload of math and cryptology behind it, but what it amounts to is that anything encrypted with someone's public key can only be decrypted by the matching private key, and vice versa. |
| 12:25.12 | lastnode | cydork, what if im installing using debootstrap via chroot? |
| 12:26.29 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@bipt42.bi.ehu.es) |
| 12:27.27 | Shadur | malagmyr_: The book _Applied Cryptography_ is considered authoritative in the field. Even if you can't understand the math (I couldn't) it's still an interesting read. |
| 12:27.36 | zophyx | it takes two keys, like in a nuclear missle launch base |
| 12:27.38 | *** join/#debian ktwilight (n=ktwiligh@87.66.193.44) |
| 12:28.24 | *** join/#debian Yperite (n=XXX@152.104.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 12:28.42 | zophyx | but... maybe it's all a lie and you only need to left shift one bit |
| 12:29.33 | Danamania | think of the public key as like a lock, and your private key being the only one that undoes those locks. you send people a bunch of locks (public keys) and they can lock up boxes to send you - but owners of other of your public locks can't use the same lock to undo another lock - they need your key (your private key) |
| 12:30.02 | Guerin | yay for cryptography |
| 12:30.42 | Guerin | Danamania: if you make that explanation include tubes and dump trucks it just might resonate for peoplr |
| 12:31.17 | *** join/#debian Adriaan (n=Adriaan@82-168-94-116.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 12:31.27 | malagmyr_ | Shadur: I think I'll bloody get that... This all seems very illogical to me, and I MUST understand it. |
| 12:31.56 | Danamania | <ted stevens>Cryptography on the internets must be banned, as the internet is a series of tubes. tubes can't carry big locked boxes, unlike a truck, and the internet is not a truck. Locked boxes block your tubes, so you can't use cryptography</ted stevens> |
| 12:31.57 | zophyx | please include dumpsters behind neighborhood bars in that explanation |
| 12:32.36 | Guerin | heh |
| 12:32.44 | Danamania | malagmyr_: it also relies on math that involves one-way functions that are trivial to do in one direction, but needs seriously huge computing power (hopefully more than the planet has at any one time) to practically decrypt the other way, without the private key. |
| 12:33.08 | Danamania | malagmyr_: and if you ask me anything more in depth about it I'll say "google it" cos I'm pretty much ignorant after those analogies :) |
| 12:33.34 | Guerin | i still don't really understand cryptography |
| 12:33.47 | Guerin | even after reading cryptonomicon and the whole baroque cycle |
| 12:33.57 | Guerin | it sure had some good swordfights in it though |
| 12:34.06 | *** join/#debian dutche- (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) |
| 12:34.26 | Danamania | threaten the private key holder with swords, and your decryption may be easy :) |
| 12:34.45 | zophyx | please remember that the public key encryption only encrypts the key to the des or aes or whatever encryptded data, the data itself is not encrypted with the public key paradigm |
| 12:34.52 | *** join/#debian hxizan (n=hxizan@222.253.79.9) |
| 12:35.06 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:35.19 | zophyx | ...... the data itself is not encrypted with the public key paradigm |
| 12:35.20 | *** join/#debian vin` (n=nach@unaffiliated/takatumi) |
| 12:35.25 | zophyx | ...... the data itself is not encrypted with the public key paradigm |
| 12:36.02 | Danamania | malagmyr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapdoor_one_way_function may help. |
| 12:36.23 | wdamn | what I need to install to have the aclocal command? |
| 12:36.25 | *** join/#debian OhMyGod (n=OhMyGod@221.224.138.13) |
| 12:37.13 | *** join/#debian lastnode_ (n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu) |
| 12:37.56 | *** join/#debian finrod (n=finrod@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 12:39.19 | *** join/#debian lastnode__ (n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu) |
| 12:39.33 | *** join/#debian cbr (n=cbr@84-50-134-161-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) |
| 12:41.36 | *** join/#debian user00265 (i=ryuji@pdpc/supporter/student/user00265) |
| 12:41.37 | cydork | wdamn: automake or autoconf but one of these two :P |
| 12:41.51 | azeem | wdamn: automake |
| 12:41.52 | cydork | wdamn: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:42.08 | *** join/#debian dao (n=dao@229-133.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 12:42.46 | wdamn | cydork azeem : thanx |
| 12:43.32 | malagmyr_ | Anyone here who can give me an example of the simplest one-way function possible? |
| 12:43.39 | malagmyr_ | Amazon will take some time to deliver my book |
| 12:45.31 | zophyx | that is freaky, apt-cache search aclocal, yields no results |
| 12:45.54 | zophyx | i am in a plastic universe |
| 12:46.01 | cydork | zophyx: replace apt-cache with apt-file :) |
| 12:46.10 | zophyx | @! |
| 12:46.12 | ravenbird | from memory, ! is what my sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not |
| 12:47.08 | MatBoy | What should I do when ntpd is already running on a system and I want to use ntpdate to sync the clock ? |
| 12:47.19 | MatBoy | I get a socket error now, that is normal of course |
| 12:48.37 | *** join/#debian ghenry (n=ghenry@195.38.86.72) |
| 12:49.49 | malagmyr_ | MatBoy: You stop ntpd, run ntpdate, and restart ntpd |
| 12:50.00 | malagmyr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.04 | MatBoy | Malagmyr, or use the -u option |
| 12:50.16 | garo | What's the toystory name of the current debian testing ? |
| 12:50.18 | malagmyr_ | fine, then do that |
| 12:50.22 | *** join/#debian h3sp4wn (n=samw@unaffiliated/h3sp4wn) |
| 12:50.24 | Ronin | garo: etch |
| 12:50.45 | *** join/#debian infoclog (n=viktough@vpnhost005.hs-esslingen.de) |
| 12:51.16 | garo | Has etch already entered the 'package freeze' stage ? |
| 12:51.16 | infoclog | hi. where can i retune my display properties |
| 12:51.39 | *** join/#debian shattten (n=jager@165.72.200.10) |
| 12:51.44 | Ronin | garo: topic |
| 12:52.14 | infoclog | i want to change some display settings.. anyone got an idea, where cn it be done |
| 12:52.25 | nkuttler | !drxx infoclog |
| 12:52.25 | dpkg | infoclog: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:52.26 | Ronin | garo: but decemberish is the last i heard for etch to move to stable |
| 12:52.44 | h3sp4wn | Can anyone tell me the correct syntax to build the uml (usermode linux kernel) from make-kpkg (Its not in the man page but make-kpkg clean mentions it) |
| 12:52.54 | MatBoy | how often should I sync the time of a server ? whatis recommended ? |
| 12:53.08 | *** join/#debian stainlessmice (n=nimda@61-56-189-250.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 12:53.13 | garo | december 2006 ? that's really soon... |
| 12:53.30 | nkuttler | h3sp4wn: --added-modules |
| 12:53.36 | *** join/#debian dao (n=dao@229-133.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 12:54.34 | *** join/#debian dbw (n=dbw@unaffiliated/sinope) |
| 12:54.52 | h3sp4wn | nkuttler: Cheers I will look into it |
| 12:55.23 | *** join/#debian Schocko_ (n=Schocko@T2cb8.t.pppool.de) |
| 12:55.35 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@bipt42.bi.ehu.es) |
| 12:55.52 | *** join/#debian Suprano_ (n=anonym00@Ob20d.o.pppool.de) |
| 12:59.02 | *** join/#debian alantop (i=1@173.134.187.220.broad.sx.zj.dynamic.cndata.com) |
| 12:59.21 | *** join/#debian fourat (n=fourat@196.203.53.221) |
| 12:59.54 | Eclipser | should I be able to mount cdrdao dat/toc image with mount? |
| 12:59.56 | *** part/#debian alantop (i=1@173.134.187.220.broad.sx.zj.dynamic.cndata.com) |
| 13:00.13 | *** join/#debian administrator (i=administ@nat/cisco/x-682dc0463dbe9e5a) |
| 13:00.19 | *** join/#debian khermans (i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-04180cc6fd80cfbd) |
| 13:00.36 | *** join/#debian ofer1 (n=ofer@line134-60.adsl.actcom.co.il) |
| 13:00.59 | MatBoy | Malagmyr, what kind of offset should I use to sync time again on a server ? |
| 13:02.02 | infoclog | !drxx xmd |
| 13:02.02 | dpkg | xmd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:02.17 | infoclog | !drxx xmd5 |
| 13:02.17 | dpkg | xmd5: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:02.46 | vin` | infoclog: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 13:02.49 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@cl-38.muc-02.de.sixxs.net) |
| 13:03.54 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 13:04.13 | *** join/#debian Firestarter_ (n=Firestar@rrcs-24-213-233-198.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 665] by debhelper |
| 13:05.01 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 13:05.45 | fourat | i did a fresh install of cupsys and i dont get the /etc/cups/client.conf file, what's wrong ? |
| 13:07.27 | infoclog | hoq |
| 13:07.44 | azeem | fourat: did you install cupsys-client as well? |
| 13:08.00 | *** join/#debian EJ20k1ng (n=f@rxp.seadoo4tec.net) |
| 13:08.04 | fourat | off course azeem |
| 13:08.09 | *** join/#debian cCs-WiESEL (n=user@msp.medien-systempartner.de) |
| 13:08.34 | cplx | can someone help me configure SNMP on a linux box so I can get MRTG to monitor its network usage |
| 13:08.53 | cydork | MatBoy: 80 core? |
| 13:09.05 | MatBoy | cydork, yeah, Intel developed it for me |
| 13:09.08 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 13:09.25 | MatBoy | cydork, you are drinking too much beer ! |
| 13:09.25 | cydork | MatBoy: wtf? |
| 13:09.36 | abrotman | cydork: MatBoy has been reading slashdot again |
| 13:10.10 | MatBoy | abrotman, hehe, not even slashdot... I always get sick of the slash :P |
| 13:10.17 | abrotman | the slash? |
| 13:10.25 | MatBoy | I won the lottery and I thought... why not :) |
| 13:10.32 | cplx | can someone help me configure SNMP on a linux box so I can get MRTG to monitor its network usage |
| 13:10.52 | cydork | MatBoy: coz wht the hell are you goin to do with it? |
| 13:10.57 | beardy | abrotman: Good (late) morning. |
| 13:11.08 | abrotman | beardy: i think you're on EST :) |
| 13:11.10 | MatBoy | cydork, so if Debian needs a recompile, I'm your man :P |
| 13:11.51 | MatBoy | hehe |
| 13:12.08 | infoclog | whts a video card bus identifier ?? |
| 13:12.14 | abrotman | infoclog: leave it blank |
| 13:12.18 | MatBoy | abrotman, sometimes you need it :) |
| 13:12.28 | beardy | abrotman: hmm, what do you have then? |
| 13:12.45 | MatBoy | abrotman, It's almost 4 o'clock... I need a Cup a Soup ;) |
| 13:13.04 | *** join/#debian mariust (n=mariust@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 13:13.06 | beardy | abrotman: (I checked EST now, and well, morning, not late morning :) ) |
| 13:13.15 | mariust | how do i extract the .config from the kernel? |
| 13:13.47 | beardy | mariust: It lies there, all unextracted and nice. |
| 13:13.47 | cydork | mariust: it's in the /boot |
| 13:13.48 | mariust | where? |
| 13:13.48 | beardy | mariust: or, extracted, I mean. |
| 13:13.48 | mariust | thanks |
| 13:13.50 | beardy | mariust: /boot/config-2.x.x-foo |
| 13:13.59 | abrotman | beardy: i'm currently morning .. a bit after 9am |
| 13:14.12 | MatBoy | abrotman, now you know why I once stopped using MadBoy ;) |
| 13:14.46 | beardy | abrotman: That's why I greeted you with a good morning ;) |
| 13:14.46 | beardy | It's afternoon here. 15:14. |
| 13:15.25 | cydork | beardy: hmm? that's very near me :P |
| 13:15.32 | infoclog | now.. its monitor horizontal sync range !! |
| 13:15.55 | infoclog | beardy : its very near to me too.. Deutsch oder ? |
| 13:16.34 | infoclog | whts a horizontal sync range ? |
| 13:16.45 | *** join/#debian MsgToThePpl (i=ab3l@adsl-110-52.38-151.net24.it) |
| 13:17.07 | beardy | infoclog: Check your monitors manual, or look it up on the net using your model name/brand/model number. |
| 13:17.16 | abrotman | a monitor hardware spec |
| 13:17.21 | MsgToThePpl | hi someone can help me installing a PINNACLE USB Hybrid Pro Stick 320e ? |
| 13:17.31 | abrotman | on debian ? |
| 13:17.40 | beardy | !usb storage |
| 13:17.41 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 13:18.08 | beardy | or what is it? |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 13:18.19 | abrotman | guess that got deleted .. weird |
| 13:18.20 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
| 13:18.22 | abrotman | oh |
| 13:18.33 | beardy | I guess it could be a joystick? |
| 13:19.00 | abrotman | nfc .. that's what he gets for being vague :) |
| 13:19.00 | beardy | Then I would have been really angry.. |
| 13:19.17 | *** join/#debian mendred (n=mendred@59.93.86.7) |
| 13:19.19 | *** join/#debian dao (n=dao@229-133.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 13:19.36 | abrotman | beardy: eh .. we were so so very very VERY wrong |
| 13:20.03 | MsgToThePpl | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.07 | abrotman | beardy: see |
| 13:20.14 | abrotman | beardy: it's a USB tv tuner with a remote |
| 13:20.15 | cydork | heheh |
| 13:20.20 | stainlessmice | hahaha |
| 13:20.33 | beardy | heh |
| 13:20.47 | beardy | Right.. |
| 13:20.54 | beardy | !mythtv |
| 13:20.54 | dpkg | i guess mythtv is software to turn a Linux box + TV tuner into a TiVo. http://www.mythtv.org. Packages can be found in <marillat>. see <bttv> and I<ivtv> for tuner card drivers |
| 13:20.56 | stainlessmice | usb tv-tuner/wireless = dead |
| 13:21.02 | beardy | perhaps, I have no clue about that.. |
| 13:21.55 | cydork | stainlessmice: na wireless works with ndiswrapper.. i have no idea aobut tv-tuner though |
| 13:22.13 | stainlessmice | is usb patented? |
| 13:22.23 | stainlessmice | o.o |
| 13:22.27 | beardy | Good question. |
| 13:22.48 | beardy | Why? |
| 13:22.51 | stainlessmice | so, no good usb device drivers |
| 13:22.58 | tuv | can an IEEE standard be patented?? |
| 13:23.10 | beardy | stainlessmice: What do you mean, or why do you ask? |
| 13:23.12 | stainlessmice | not sure |
| 13:23.34 | *** join/#debian jacek (n=Jacek@host-ip242-226.crowley.pl) |
| 13:23.44 | stainlessmice | a question in my mind |
| 13:23.49 | beardy | stainlessmice: USB is and has been supported for quite some time now. Patented or not. |
| 13:23.59 | beardy | stainlessmice: Was it brought on my the marillat reference above? |
| 13:24.47 | beardy | Perhaps I am just confusing myself and you now.. |
| 13:25.04 | *** join/#debian xjkx (n=rude@201009015062.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 13:25.14 | *** join/#debian grendelson (n=neffer@cpe-24-27-32-71.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 13:25.31 | xjkx | [off] whats the difference between Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox? |
| 13:25.37 | beardy | Anyway, it's a standard, and since it's used, it can't be patented in the most horrible way atleast, if at all, then it wouldn't be used.. |
| 13:26.03 | stainlessmice | in theory.. |
| 13:26.20 | beardy | xjkx: Mozilla (the browser and more, not the project) is a whole package with things, more than a web browser, Firefox is a webbrowser. |
| 13:26.35 | Talisker[w] | Do you know any good light weight browser? I need something capable of images and text, anything else is irrelevant |
| 13:26.39 | beardy | stainlessmice: No, rather in practice. |
| 13:26.47 | stainlessmice | hehe |
| 13:26.47 | *** join/#debian botox (n=noreply@dsl-217-155-159-198.zen.co.uk) |
| 13:26.48 | petemc | Talisker[w]: dillo |
| 13:26.48 | beardy | Talisker[w]: links -g |
| 13:26.49 | Danamania | xjkx: Mozilla is a mass of integrated browser, mail, irc, a bunch of other things - Firefox is just the browser, and simplified. |
| 13:26.53 | botox | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.58 | botox | *output |
| 13:27.00 | Talisker[w] | petemc, dillo can't do pics |
| 13:27.24 | beardy | botox: Why can't you just use uname -r? |
| 13:28.03 | Talisker[w] | beardy, ELinks: Unknown option -g |
| 13:28.09 | xjkx | beardy but seems to me my browser Mozilla opens faster than Mozilla Firefox, must be a different reason than one being browser+more packages and other being only browser, because they have different 'interface', dun' think they would make two of them only for that =o |
| 13:28.13 | abrotman | dillo does pictures |
| 13:28.14 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:28.17 | *** join/#debian jindal (i=oox@h678631.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 13:28.46 | beardy | Talisker[w]: links2 then |
| 13:29.06 | beardy | xjkx: They are two different browsers yes. |
| 13:29.18 | grendelson | I've started trying to use bug reports and stuff adn I have coem to expect clicked links to just send mail. However I only use yahoo.com as may mail. Will exim or nullmailer send to yahoo for outbound? Just looking for where I shoudl concentrate my energy - I'll start reading there :-) |
| 13:29.26 | inimesekene | what does "uname -r" do ? |
| 13:29.26 | Talisker[w] | abrotman, do I have to somehow enable them? |
| 13:29.33 | stainlessmice | dillo is amazing |
| 13:29.40 | petemc | Talisker[w]: huh? |
| 13:29.53 | Talisker[w] | I have dillo installed here and it shows only text |
| 13:29.55 | abrotman | Talisker[w]: no .. not that i'm aware of |
| 13:30.02 | stainlessmice | O.o |
| 13:30.04 | xjkx | beardy mmm, and you would know how to explain why firefox has a delay higher to start? |
| 13:30.10 | MatBoy | when you run a cronjob and do a >/dev/null behind it, it's not being logged ? |
| 13:30.13 | Talisker[w] | Coloured text, though, but that's still not a picture |
| 13:30.21 | beardy | wtf.. the Pause Break key does a suspend in screen..? |
| 13:30.28 | petemc | Talisker[w]: http://www.dillo.org/screenshots/slashdot1.png |
| 13:30.51 | stainlessmice | well, is seamonkey still alive? |
| 13:31.04 | *** join/#debian madcode_ (n=madcode@reverse-82-141-57-76.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) |
| 13:31.04 | beardy | I just noticed, I have changed keyboards, and this is one of those with the Pause, scroll lock and Sysrq keyas right above the pageup row, so I hit it by mistake |
| 13:31.17 | Talisker[w] | well holy batman in a disco suit |
| 13:31.22 | abrotman | petemc: OMFG .. IMAGES! |
| 13:31.28 | petemc | madness |
| 13:31.41 | *** join/#debian Suprano (n=anonym00@Ob20d.o.pppool.de) |
| 13:31.56 | beardy | madness to have the keys placed there yes, or what? |
| 13:32.02 | Talisker[w] | I only get a text mode of slashdot |
| 13:32.11 | petemc | Talisker[w]: perhaps it s asetting |
| 13:32.12 | stainlessmice | weird |
| 13:32.12 | *** join/#debian noqman (n=noqman@129.71.218.25) |
| 13:32.16 | noqman | I have a problem (my new boss is looking at putting a exchange server in our office) I think he is nuts (we've been running a postfix system for 6 years with no problems) said we need something that outlook will share calendar on "can anybody give me any ideals" |
| 13:32.21 | yure | hi. what is the simplest way to disable simultaneos TCP/IP connections from same IP to my host |
| 13:32.38 | petemc | noqman: my experience is theres nothing as good groupware wise as exchange |
| 13:33.08 | abrotman | you can try something with thunderbird that does ical .. |
| 13:33.16 | petemc | noqman: but a postfix gateway server in front of it would be a good idea |
| 13:33.20 | noqman | groupware = outlook |
| 13:33.33 | *** join/#debian DaveyB (n=Dave@cpc1-linc3-0-0-cust360.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:33.47 | petemc | noqman: ms would like you to think that, but its not true |
| 13:34.02 | *** join/#debian dpro (n=x@195.176.254.254) |
| 13:34.12 | petemc | !groupware |
| 13:34.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, groupware is This term is used to describe any form of software designed to allow a group of people to easily share ideas and data. Examples include Lotus Notes, Novell GroupWise, and Microsoft Exchange. |
| 13:34.22 | dpro | hi |
| 13:34.23 | stainlessmice | do we need groupware? |
| 13:34.26 | stainlessmice | lo |
| 13:34.38 | grendelson | noqman,Lotus Notes server on Linux... easy calendar sharing. |
| 13:35.19 | *** join/#debian zinq_ (n=zinq@DSL217-132-192-34.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 13:35.31 | *** join/#debian loumz (n=loumz@125.164.180.151) |
| 13:35.50 | abrotman | noqman: if you use ical and shared folders .. you can get roughly the same thing |
| 13:36.02 | *** join/#debian foony (n=foony@APlessis-Bouchard-153-1-60-59.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:36.25 | *** join/#debian konfuzed (n=Konf@H211.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca) |
| 13:37.25 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.46) |
| 13:37.26 | abrotman | !ical |
| 13:37.37 | abrotman | dpkg: wake up |
| 13:37.37 | dpkg | abrotman: I'm already awake! :) |
| 13:38.09 | DaveyB | Can someone shed some light why my WIFI NIC wont find my WIFI ROUTER. http://channels.debian.net/paste/3871 What other commands can I use for diganosis, please help I have been stuck on this all day :) |
| 13:39.12 | cydork | DaveyB: do you see it in iwlist scan? |
| 13:39.40 | abrotman | DaveyB: did that last command work ? |
| 13:40.09 | cydork | heh |
| 13:41.47 | *** join/#debian kantlivelong (n=shawn@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 13:41.57 | kantlivelong | anyone here have exp w/ WPA? |
| 13:42.03 | grendelson | WIFI router. turn off all firewalling, special features, make sure it is presenting DHCP, make sure you are not using any encryption then try again - |
| 13:42.06 | *** join/#debian mariuss (n=mariuss@154.80-202-219.nextgentel.com) |
| 13:42.27 | grendelson | If you can then turn on simplest encryption and make sure your NIC can still passs encryption to establish connection |
| 13:42.36 | *** join/#debian derjohn (n=derjohn@80.69.37.19) |
| 13:42.41 | grendelson | Almost every case like your s I founf was incorrect enryption info.... |
| 13:43.30 | DaveyB | So turn encryption off completely? |
| 13:43.46 | kantlivelong | i keep gettin dropped after 10secs w/ wpa_suppilcant |
| 13:43.48 | DaveyB | Then run "ifup wlan0" again? |
| 13:43.56 | grendelson | DaveyB, For testing purposes... |
| 13:43.57 | cydork | DaveyB: even with encryption it should show up in iwlist scan |
| 13:44.25 | grendelson | If security is a huge issue then most routers can have alist of MAC addresses they wil lONLY accept connections from a- add your NIC device's <AC |
| 13:44.40 | grendelson | When you get a connection with NO encryption - then add encryption and try again... |
| 13:44.55 | DaveyB | brb, this will reset my router |
| 13:45.18 | DaveyB | does it matter what channel I have it on? |
| 13:45.24 | grendelson | DaveyB, Also when testing make sure your router is broadcasting - you can turn that off once you get a connection - make sure the SSID is somethign simple you'll recognize |
| 13:45.58 | grendelson | DaveyB, Keep it default like 2 or 4 I think or 11 I always forgett. , KEY, SSID must be smae to connect even without encryption of any sort... |
| 13:46.34 | grendelson | DaveyB, Again all these suggestions are for testing. You can cahnge and turn off SSID broadcast and add encryption once you prove you can connect... |
| 13:46.43 | DaveyB | brb rebooting the router |
| 13:46.57 | derjohn | if i want to package a perl based tool, that required perl libs which ... where is the best place to put the perl libs? I would like to put then in a own dir, but the @INC of perl does not know about that dir |
| 13:47.16 | dpro | hrmmmm why does this tail -f /var/log/auth.log | sed -e "s/^... .. .*:.. combat //" and this: root-tail - #<entersomestuff on stdin> work but this doesn't: tail -f /var/log/auth.log | sed -e "s/^... .. .*:.. combat //" | root-tail - |
| 13:47.17 | dpro | ??? |
| 13:47.48 | stainlessmice | ??? |
| 13:48.29 | *** join/#debian dsop (n=dsp@p54965D5E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:48.58 | *** part/#debian botox (n=noreply@dsl-217-155-159-198.zen.co.uk) |
| 13:49.10 | MatBoy | damn, I have again my memory problem... the system seems to only use mem and never free it or something :S |
| 13:49.20 | stainlessmice | dpro, did you show your record on the deskop? |
| 13:49.51 | DaveyB | BTW: I can find my Wireless router when I do a iwlist wlan0 scan. That has to be a good thing :) |
| 13:50.57 | DaveyB | I have just removed all encryption, changed the channel to factory default "6" and did a ifup wlan0, nothing found :( |
| 13:50.59 | dpro | stainlessmice: huh ? |
| 13:51.05 | *** part/#debian godzirra (n=shawn@c-68-57-151-199.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:51.35 | stainlessmice | dpro, do you use root-tail? |
| 13:51.39 | abrotman | might want to ask #ndiswrapper |
| 13:51.49 | abrotman | MatBoy: that's not a problem |
| 13:51.53 | abrotman | !free ram |
| 13:51.53 | dpkg | Most modern operating systems try aggressively to use free physical memory for disk caching, but release it when actually needed by programs. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. |
| 13:52.00 | *** join/#debian unreal (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 13:52.05 | *** join/#debian SinnerG (i=SinnerG@cable-213-132-141-21.upc.chello.be) |
| 13:52.13 | *** join/#debian mgois (n=mgois@85.139.134.150) |
| 13:52.23 | *** join/#debian amonbish (n=andrew@trip384-isdn-a017.otenet.gr) |
| 13:52.30 | MatBoy | abrotman, it can be vmware that uses everything because I have a writelock on the configfile and the mem for it is far to huge |
| 13:53.19 | cydork | DaveyB: so you see a essid in iwlist ? |
| 13:53.21 | *** join/#debian NagyZ (i=NagyZ_@wreck.elte.hu) |
| 13:53.23 | dpro | stainlessmice: yeah root-tail works nicely even from pipes but stops working when I have a sed or perl or whatever inbetween |
| 13:53.24 | NagyZ | hello ppl |
| 13:53.46 | NagyZ | I'm (still...) having some problems installing sarge/etch/sid/you name it on some new boxes |
| 13:53.47 | *** join/#debian Petrov (i=Petrov@196.115-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:53.48 | abrotman | MatBoy: it's not a problem |
| 13:53.57 | abrotman | NagyZ: didn't we go over this the other day ? |
| 13:54.04 | MatBoy | abrotman, for me it is at the moment ;) |
| 13:54.07 | NagyZ | yep, but sadly .18 didnt fix the problem |
| 13:54.12 | DaveyB | cydork, my EESID is DaveyB |
| 13:54.16 | NagyZ | I've managed to make a custom installcd |
| 13:54.19 | grendelson | DaveyB, You have t make sure that the NIC is using channel 6 AND had the same SSID |
| 13:54.25 | NagyZ | but I cant see my optical drive even with .18 (or -git4) |
| 13:54.34 | NagyZ | abrotman so I'm trying installation over PXE now |
| 13:54.39 | *** join/#debian ncp (i=Schmidt@home.prefix.dk) |
| 13:54.40 | DaveyB | gelignite, : How would I do that? |
| 13:54.42 | grendelson | DaveyB, ALSO make sure that MAC address filtering is not on, |
| 13:54.46 | NagyZ | but after installing the base system, the installer fails... |
| 13:54.55 | abrotman | MatBoy: NO .. it's nto a problem .. get over it |
| 13:54.58 | cydork | so just check you have all the options on your iwconfig line.. |
| 13:54.58 | NagyZ | on console 4 I can see dpkg complaining about udev installation failure |
| 13:55.08 | abrotman | NagyZ: did you try the debian kernel . or you're still using your own ? |
| 13:55.10 | NagyZ | and I see udevd say: cant bind to socket |
| 13:55.14 | ncp | how can i flush the local dns? |
| 13:55.30 | NagyZ | abrotman using my own, as theres no debian kernel from .18 (at least I couldnt find any the other day) |
| 13:55.36 | Shadur | ncp: restart it |
| 13:55.37 | abrotman | NagyZ: there is now |
| 13:55.39 | cydork | NagyZ: is it a sata cddrive? |
| 13:55.50 | DaveyB | Done it |
| 13:56.04 | DaveyB | It was due to the EEI Thing |
| 13:56.04 | abrotman | NagyZ: x86 or amd64 ? |
| 13:56.16 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua_@122.0.229.217) |
| 13:56.17 | cydork | DaveyB: eei? |
| 13:56.23 | DaveyB | cydork, EESID |
| 13:56.31 | NagyZ | x86 |
| 13:56.36 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/linux-image-2.6.18-1-amd64 |
| 13:56.37 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:56.38 | ncp | shadur : sorry you know on windows its ipconfig /flushdns, how can i do that on linux? i dont run dns server |
| 13:56.40 | DaveyB | thanks cydork and grendelson , love you long time |
| 13:56.52 | grendelson | DaveyB, OOh me so -- never mind.... |
| 13:57.10 | NagyZ | altought it's core2duo, so I guess maybe amd64 would be just fine.. :) but what could I expect from x86_64 when not even x86 working...? |
| 13:57.13 | grendelson | DaveyB, Right those settings down then start to add MAC filtering , encryption etc. GO back to working when you get hosed |
| 13:57.22 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:57.30 | abrotman | NagyZ: your kernel is broken .. |
| 13:57.35 | NagyZ | why? |
| 13:57.38 | NagyZ | udev installation fails |
| 13:57.44 | NagyZ | why is that my fault again? |
| 13:57.45 | NagyZ | :) |
| 13:57.48 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. do it your way |
| 13:57.53 | NagyZ | well I'm open to any suggestions |
| 13:57.55 | MatBoy | abrotman, damn, how can you decide for someone else if it's a problem for him.... get over that !! |
| 13:57.58 | NagyZ | dont take this the right way |
| 13:58.01 | NagyZ | wrong way :) |
| 13:58.06 | abrotman | MatBoy: shut up .. |
| 13:58.15 | *** join/#debian the_mug (n=the_mug@smtp.craftontull.com) |
| 13:58.20 | NagyZ | abrotman what am I missing in my kernel? |
| 13:58.33 | MatBoy | abrotman, damn, get your pills ! ;) |
| 13:58.35 | grendelson | MatBoy, If you are using VMware and you did tell it to use a large amount of memry then I am confused why you are surpirsed you memeory is used? |
| 13:58.40 | abrotman | NagyZ: the 2.6.17 sees your CD .. but not your HDD? and the .18 sees your HD but not your CD ? |
| 13:58.48 | *** join/#debian mechcow_ (n=joelh@59.167.29.155) |
| 13:58.52 | NagyZ | no, both misses the cdrom |
| 13:58.53 | abrotman | MatBoy: shut up |
| 13:59.05 | *** join/#debian XoR_ (n=XoR@85.254.200.164) |
| 13:59.05 | cydork | NagyZ: is it a sata cddrive?? |
| 13:59.11 | MatBoy | grendelson, hehe, I just saw it :) I have a writelock on the configfile so I need to lower the mem down :) |
| 13:59.11 | NagyZ | no |
| 13:59.12 | abrotman | NagyZ: everything is SATA ? |
| 13:59.13 | NagyZ | it's a pata drive |
| 13:59.22 | NagyZ | and eventually after lots of hours |
| 13:59.24 | abrotman | NagyZ: tried setting it all to legacy in the BIOS ? |
| 13:59.42 | NagyZ | I found out that the mobo has a marvell pata chip |
| 13:59.47 | NagyZ | which is (and wont) be supported |
| 13:59.50 | NagyZ | so cdrom is out of the picture |
| 13:59.52 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 13:59.54 | DaveyB | I think that's the case I have just unplugged my NIC cable now |
| 13:59.54 | DaveyB | lol wait for me to ping out. he he |
| 13:59.57 | DaveyB | hi |
| 14:00.01 | abrotman | it is or is not supported |
| 14:00.01 | DaveyB | It's still not working |
| 14:00.05 | NagyZ | it is not. |
| 14:00.07 | grendelson | MatBoy, The point earlier was that free doesnt truly show you what was free. It shows that the OS has taken all the memory for caching and the like but it is still freef or applications to use ( I think I paraphrased that correctly) |
| 14:00.07 | MatBoy | abrotman, try to say something different... like: I will ignore abrotman for today ;) |
| 14:00.12 | NagyZ | abrotman it's too new ;-)) |
| 14:00.18 | NagyZ | that's why I'm trying PXE installation now |
| 14:00.22 | *** join/#debian whm (n=whm@59.41.70.169) |
| 14:00.28 | NagyZ | oo |
| 14:00.38 | cydork | !enter |
| 14:00.38 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 14:00.43 | abrotman | MatBoy: oh no .. now you won't be spewing total nonsense in my direction |
| 14:00.57 | abrotman | NagyZ: so wait .. it boots from the CD .. but then dies ? |
| 14:00.59 | DaveyB | Does this mean the WIFI has been setup? http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 14:01.04 | NagyZ | abrotman yes. |
| 14:01.06 | NagyZ | interestingly... |
| 14:01.20 | cydork | DaveyB: the link ;) |
| 14:01.24 | abrotman | NagyZ: have you tried the mini.iso ? |
| 14:01.27 | NagyZ | http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/1/274 |
| 14:01.28 | DaveyB | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.32 | DaveyB | sorry cydork |
| 14:01.36 | NagyZ | abrotman nope, which one? |
| 14:01.40 | NagyZ | I've tried the netinstall ones |
| 14:01.40 | MatBoy | grendelson, yep, I get that |
| 14:02.06 | cydork | DaveyB: yep, you can check it with iwconfig or ifconfig even |
| 14:02.14 | abrotman | NagyZ: they make smaller ones that grab everything from the net |
| 14:02.24 | grendelson | DaveyB, IF our router is 192.168.0.1 and is the dhcp host then it looks fine. |
| 14:02.27 | abrotman | NagyZ: however .. you're going to have a problem for a while if you can't get your CD working |
| 14:02.29 | DaveyB | So if i unplug my ethernet now from my latop i am ready to go on WIFI? |
| 14:02.49 | grendelson | DaveyB, If your internet conneciton id via the cable you may get disconnected |
| 14:02.56 | *** join/#debian whatah (i=noname@nylug/member/whatah) |
| 14:03.01 | abrotman | NagyZ: maybe try a custom business card installer .. |
| 14:03.06 | abrotman | NagyZ: does the NIC work ? |
| 14:03.10 | DaveyB | How will I assign my WIFI over my ethernet? |
| 14:03.18 | NagyZ | abrotman with .17? no |
| 14:03.26 | NagyZ | it's an integrated e1000 |
| 14:03.35 | abrotman | wtf did oyu get this hardware? |
| 14:03.47 | abrotman | NagyZ: so why does the lack of CD matter? just use an HTTP source |
| 14:03.59 | grendelson | DaveyB, Whichever one is on will work , so in theory you can unplug one and tCP shoudl try the other may fail though - just reset you apps and they will go over WI |
| 14:04.19 | NagyZ | abrotman I didnt get this hardware.. my supervisors here at the university ordered these.. :) |
| 14:04.25 | DaveyB | k |
| 14:04.30 | grendelson | DaveyB, Just remember to try to add a littel security to your wifi router unles you want all your neighbors to share you bandwidth |
| 14:04.45 | abrotman | NagyZ: they should be fired |
| 14:04.55 | stainlessmice | hehe |
| 14:04.58 | grendelson | abrotman, LOL |
| 14:05.06 | abrotman | NagyZ: ok .. if you do the installer .. and DO NOT try to use the CD as a source .. does it work ? |
| 14:05.07 | stainlessmice | share = freedom |
| 14:06.02 | stainlessmice | the shared wi-fi around the world = max freedom |
| 14:06.08 | DaveyB | . |
| 14:06.17 | grendelson | stainlessmice, In a Chaotic good world |
| 14:06.18 | abrotman | NagyZ: you might have to try a custom businesscard |
| 14:06.31 | cydork | stainlessmice: you like fon then? |
| 14:06.38 | abrotman | NagyZ: or try some of these http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ |
| 14:06.43 | grendelson | stainlessmice, do you recall the nameof the project to share wifi APs all over for free? |
| 14:06.45 | stainlessmice | hmmm |
| 14:06.56 | NagyZ | abrotman I've tried the netboot image here |
| 14:07.00 | grendelson | oH FON? |
| 14:07.03 | stainlessmice | (gpl) fon = the future |
| 14:07.18 | abrotman | NagyZ: you made your own custom mini.iso ? |
| 14:07.41 | *** join/#debian Edward_TLS (n=Edward@host-2.sfiss.demon.nl) |
| 14:07.41 | grendelson | stainlessmice, I have to admit when I am travelling for work and have to drive in a storm to an open Starbucks or Hotel to get wifi I do wish there was more AP out there"-) |
| 14:08.05 | NagyZ | abrotman not yet, just have customized the netinstall cd images |
| 14:08.21 | abrotman | NagyZ: might want to try a custom mini.iso .. but use a debian kernel if you can .. |
| 14:08.26 | NagyZ | sure |
| 14:08.27 | NagyZ | just a sec |
| 14:08.52 | *** join/#debian MsgToThePpl (i=ab3l@adsl-110-52.38-151.net24.it) |
| 14:09.37 | MsgToThePpl | hi (about an usb tv tuner) I installed mythtv as suggested but in the dialog capture card it says can't probe /dev/video nor /dev/video0 nor /dev/video1 etc why? |
| 14:09.59 | dpro | on another note anyone knows if there's a readline enabled ghostscript for debian anywhere ? |
| 14:10.30 | *** join/#debian derek[] (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 14:10.49 | *** join/#debian efaistos (n=efaistos@m59.net81-66-147.noos.fr) |
| 14:11.29 | cydork | MsgToThePpl: mythtv is just a interface like media center. check linuxtv.org for more info regarding your hardware. |
| 14:13.00 | *** join/#debian Illarane|Laptop (n=heifer@pdpc/supporter/student/Veratien) |
| 14:15.40 | *** join/#debian webmind (i=webmind@feather.perl6.nl) |
| 14:16.09 | *** join/#debian jindal (i=gsfcasz@h678631.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 14:16.44 | MatBoy | grendelson, I have set the VMware @ max again op 1024 so I have 1024 free for my Linux-OS. Let's see what it does :) |
| 14:16.54 | *** join/#debian redloff (i=redloff@black.bee.pl) |
| 14:17.38 | grendelson | Would someone be so kind as to point me to an EXIM setup example if I am using Yahoo as my smtp (if it even possible?) |
| 14:18.02 | MatBoy | grendelson, I doubt if you can use Yahoo as your smtp |
| 14:18.12 | stainlessmice | yahoo = prison |
| 14:18.26 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, prison = hell |
| 14:18.31 | grendelson | stainlessmice, You are full of the philosophy today! |
| 14:18.37 | MatBoy | grendelson, yahoo = hell |
| 14:18.42 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (n=jtatum@c-68-36-133-161.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:18.44 | stainlessmice | isn't it? |
| 14:18.56 | cydork | MatBoy -> hell |
| 14:18.57 | MatBoy | I never used it, really never |
| 14:18.59 | grendelson | yahoo = free |
| 14:19.07 | MatBoy | !hug cydork |
| 14:19.11 | stainlessmice | free to jail? |
| 14:19.20 | grendelson | yahoo = never had to cahnge e-mail address even though I changed ISPs like underwear! (some of you may not get this on e :-P |
| 14:19.33 | amphi | grendelson: FWIW, you can use gmail's smptp server as a relay host, if you have a gmail account |
| 14:19.48 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, you are good :) |
| 14:19.50 | grendelson | amphi: Ahh the quest for a gmail account... |
| 14:20.05 | amphi | grendelson: huh? |
| 14:20.08 | Eclipser | I once put a package on hold manually, how can I revert that? |
| 14:20.11 | Ronin | grendelson: seriously? i thought everyone and thier dog had at least one by now |
| 14:20.26 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 14:20.57 | grendelson | Ronin, I know I jsut didn't get caught up... was too busy reading my mail at Yahoo (heheh) |
| 14:21.28 | grendelson | Ronin, but my cat has one :-) |
| 14:21.33 | infoclog | did yahoo release the beta |
| 14:21.48 | abrotman | infoclog: i believe so |
| 14:22.00 | abrotman | infoclog: though i think you can stil use the old one .. or at least i am :) |
| 14:22.31 | infoclog | the beta one has some nice features. like thunderbird kinda interface |
| 14:22.48 | abrotman | oh .. says it's still beta |
| 14:22.52 | slidesinger | After the last kernel upgrade: (kernel-image-2.6-686/testing uptodate 1:2.6.17+2) PCMCIA stopped working. dmesg | grep pcmcia produces no output. lsmod | grep pcmcia produces: |
| 14:22.53 | slidesinger | pcmcia 34012 0 |
| 14:22.54 | slidesinger | firmware_class 9696 1 pcmcia |
| 14:22.54 | slidesinger | pcmcia_core 37300 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic |
| 14:22.54 | *** kick/#debian [slidesinger!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 14:23.16 | amphi | grendelson: PM me an email address if you want an invite (if you need one any more, dunno) |
| 14:23.21 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (n=jtatum@c-68-36-133-161.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:23.26 | infoclog | i dnt think they released it.. ! wht they released was some anti phising |
| 14:23.36 | abrotman | infoclog: i think the beta is available to all now |
| 14:23.57 | *** join/#debian solars (n=Johnny@80.109.141.57) |
| 14:24.01 | *** join/#debian PDani_ (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 14:24.04 | stainlessmice | what's the reason goole wants to get your social network? |
| 14:24.04 | abrotman | They should just starting calling it "Standard" and "Low Bandwidth" |
| 14:24.08 | grendelson | I use the yahoo beta. I thougt it was still invite...but don't read the news enuf |
| 14:24.14 | *** join/#debian PDani (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 14:24.27 | abrotman | grendelson: no . i got in .. no invite |
| 14:25.17 | grendelson | abrotman, good. Beign a Domino admin the interface feels somewhat... familiar :-) |
| 14:25.31 | *** join/#debian tuningme (i=ab3l@adsl-110-52.38-151.net24.it) |
| 14:25.32 | slidesinger | Anyone know where I should start looking for the answer? |
| 14:25.42 | *** join/#debian Growly (n=growly@222-152-157-83.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 14:26.10 | vin` | I deleted about 5000 mails after they switched to beta, emptying the spam bucket is a breeze now. |
| 14:26.12 | grendelson | slidesinger, After kernel the pcmcia mods are not present - reinstall or resetup pcmcia ? |
| 14:26.15 | *** join/#debian Persilon (n=ariel@200.123.150.117) |
| 14:26.46 | abrotman | grendelson: geek! |
| 14:27.00 | stainlessmice | "you are DRMed" |
| 14:27.24 | tuningme | hi i've a usb tv tuner eb1a:2881 (pinnacle hybrid dusb pro stick) but with both tvtime scantv and mythtv it says can't capture from /dev/video & /dev/video0 |
| 14:27.31 | tuningme | what driver is one is needed ? |
| 14:27.49 | abrotman | tuningme: please don't change nicks |
| 14:27.56 | abrotman | tuningme: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 14:27.58 | grendelson | stainlessmice, It's like having fortune cookies running in IRC.. I jsut want to see that little guy walking around on my screen |
| 14:28.00 | slidesinger | grendelson: the mods _are_ loaded. |
| 14:28.03 | MsgToThePpl | changed 'cause it sayd already in use |
| 14:28.12 | *** join/#debian DaveyB (n=Dave@cpc1-linc3-0-0-cust360.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 14:28.19 | vin` | tuningme: /msg dpkg which driver |
| 14:28.24 | DaveyB | thankyou guys I am now wireless setup, with encryption. YEY |
| 14:28.56 | grendelson | DaveyB, Write everythign down - I can guarantee you will not get on line one day and change evrythign to fix and forget what worked :-) Oh from experience NOOO) |
| 14:28.58 | stainlessmice | congratulations |
| 14:29.25 | *** join/#debian fRSTGUMP (n=jt@adsl-69-235-19-214.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 14:29.30 | stainlessmice | welcome to the free but low performence world |
| 14:29.41 | vin` | eh? |
| 14:29.50 | tuningme | libc 2.3.2 etc |
| 14:29.54 | grendelson | Any inside word on gfax (broken in testing) depends on a lib only available in unstabel... ? Just wait it out ? |
| 14:30.29 | DaveyB | grendelson, : so far it is written on an envelope but I am going to get it tatoo'd on my arm later today |
| 14:30.31 | MatBoy | *believed |
| 14:30.42 | cydork | !nuke MatBoy |
| 14:30.48 | slidesinger | The other thing, trying to start pcmciautils generates the message: PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel |
| 14:30.52 | MatBoy | hehe, 80 again :D |
| 14:30.54 | abrotman | cydork: you should know better than to believe anything MatBoy says |
| 14:30.58 | grendelson | DaveyB, Man those envelopes laways seem to be handy (carried settings on opened junk mail envelopes for a year :-) |
| 14:31.11 | cydork | abrotman: i think i was too drunk then :P |
| 14:32.18 | grendelson | Could junk mail envelopes be considered "Sys admin official documentation"? |
| 14:32.44 | *** join/#debian sepski (n=seppity@217.17.211.51) |
| 14:32.53 | Guerin | grendelson: as a sysadmin, you get to decide what constitutes 'official documentation' |
| 14:33.02 | stainlessmice | the 80-core-intel is crazy |
| 14:33.13 | stainlessmice | why not 128-core? |
| 14:33.17 | grendelson | Guerin, Good then I will have to enter all my ripped envelopes into the vault! :-) |
| 14:33.54 | abrotman | stainlessmice: i'm sure it was a manager that odesn't understand 2^x :) |
| 14:34.00 | anapivirtua | Bye all. |
| 14:34.02 | DaveyB | grendelson, lol |
| 14:34.05 | stainlessmice | ha ha ha |
| 14:34.08 | *** join/#debian ttick (n=tibetian@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4e-169.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 14:34.23 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, you can play with it here @ my place if you want... we can play tuxracer on it :P |
| 14:34.34 | Persilon | exit |
| 14:34.40 | stainlessmice | lol |
| 14:34.53 | stainlessmice | one pengiun one core |
| 14:35.57 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, yeah good idea... we can organize a clan on 1 system :P |
| 14:36.00 | stainlessmice | MatBoy, why you have this cpu? |
| 14:36.10 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, no I was kidding |
| 14:36.16 | stainlessmice | ................. |
| 14:36.23 | *** join/#debian ChrisWhite|Work (n=chris@gentoo/developer/ChrisWhite) |
| 14:36.50 | *** join/#debian rockzman (n=alch3mis@mail.fournet.com.br) |
| 14:37.15 | *** join/#debian Yp3rite (n=XXX@24.99.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 14:37.38 | stainlessmice | 80+ core cpu = the gpu's end |
| 14:37.46 | jelly-home | stainlessmice: they are making it 128core, but about 40 cores are lost due to the process. ;-) |
| 14:37.48 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, it didn't fit in my case... so I canceled the order |
| 14:37.56 | stainlessmice | +ppu |
| 14:38.25 | stainlessmice | jelly-home, hahaha, pretty nice joke |
| 14:38.46 | stainlessmice | ;) |
| 14:38.58 | Bhavesh | wow i am still logged in |
| 14:39.10 | NagyZ | hm |
| 14:39.16 | stainlessmice | as the three core xbox360? |
| 14:39.20 | NagyZ | abrotman tried mini.iso |
| 14:39.24 | NagyZ | it does not see my NIC |
| 14:39.44 | NagyZ | interestingly, even after modprobe e1000 |
| 14:39.45 | *** join/#debian TechJournalist (n=tk421@d36-115-222.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 14:40.17 | abrotman | NagyZ: with your superkernel ? |
| 14:40.19 | NagyZ | so lets try to upgrade it's kernel.. :-) |
| 14:40.20 | NagyZ | no |
| 14:40.23 | NagyZ | with the default kernel |
| 14:40.32 | NagyZ | 2.6.17-2-486 |
| 14:41.18 | *** join/#debian MindCr (n=MindCr@194.Red-88-8-183.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:41.20 | abrotman | diudn't you say it didn't work! |
| 14:41.35 | NagyZ | he? : |
| 14:41.36 | *** join/#debian berto- (i=glfp@71-92-200-228.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 14:41.37 | NagyZ | ) |
| 14:41.39 | MatBoy | jelly-home, yeah, if you run windows on it you will lose even more |
| 14:41.44 | NagyZ | I said it didnt work. |
| 14:42.55 | *** join/#debian Pucika (n=baby_gir@83-131-11-83.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 14:43.04 | Pucika | hi i need help |
| 14:43.06 | slidesinger | I finally figured it out. /etc/pcmcia/config.opts is missing. |
| 14:43.10 | Pucika | how to add user |
| 14:43.20 | abrotman | adduser |
| 14:43.23 | Pucika | ? |
| 14:43.29 | Pucika | yes |
| 14:43.39 | cydork | Pucika: man adduser |
| 14:43.41 | Ronin | Pucika: no thats how you do it |
| 14:43.44 | Pucika | but can u give me more information |
| 14:43.55 | cydork | Pucika: type "man adduser" |
| 14:43.56 | Ronin | Pucika: yes, cydork did :) |
| 14:43.57 | abrotman | !u |
| 14:43.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:44.08 | Pucika | ok thanks |
| 14:45.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 673] by debhelper |
| 14:45.03 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 14:46.02 | *** join/#debian lftl (n=spanky@adsl-072-148-023-022.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:46.33 | slidesinger | Pucika: Most irc clients have a text replacement function which can be set up to replace you with you, still allowing you to type the shortcut and be intelligible as well. |
| 14:46.54 | grendelson | tu solo tu |
| 14:46.55 | slidesinger | Pucika: Most irc clients have a text replacement function which can be set up to replace "u" with you, still allowing you to type the shortcut and be intelligible as well. |
| 14:47.17 | slidesinger | Pucika: As you can see from the first post, ot works well. |
| 14:48.22 | slidesinger | Damn! |
| 14:49.06 | DaveyB | Instead of me having to write this everytime: modprobe ndiswrapper ; iwcondig wlan0 essid DaveyB ; iwconfig wlan0 key hexpass ; ifup wlan, is there an easier way? |
| 14:49.07 | grendelson | wow full pop and smtp auth access with g-mail - just what I was looking for - now to set up exim with smarthost ! Yeah I can finally send mail from command line (watchout bug reports:^) |
| 14:49.13 | slidesinger | Further research reveals that, the socket I have: yenta-socket, falls into the realm of "the complicated ones. |
| 14:49.26 | grendelson | DaveyB, You want a scritp - lookup iwconfig |
| 14:49.44 | grendelson | I think it goes in /etc/netowrking or soemthing. |
| 14:50.02 | grendelson | No sorry it is the same script the network card is configured in - jsut different fomrat.... |
| 14:50.12 | DaveyB | I know where you mean grendelson |
| 14:50.15 | h3sp4wn | DaveyB: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz |
| 14:50.39 | jelly-home | Dave123: you can put all sorts of stuff into /etc/network/interfaces, including which command to run before upping the interface. |
| 14:51.14 | *** join/#debian ichiban (n=ichiban@189.104-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 14:51.16 | cydork | DaveyB: man interfaces, take a look at pre-up |
| 14:51.37 | grendelson | cydork, That's what I was thinking of :-) |
| 14:51.51 | DaveyB | can't i just put the stuff I do directly into the interfaces file? |
| 14:52.16 | grendelson | I have all my config in /etc/network/interfaces... |
| 14:52.19 | jelly-home | DaveyB: yes. also man wireless |
| 14:54.13 | jelly-home | is there a scriptable javascript-enabled browser or http library? I want to login to my router and change some setting from a script. |
| 14:54.48 | *** join/#debian dutche- (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) |
| 14:54.58 | DaveyB | brb reboot |
| 14:55.00 | *** join/#debian Joe7 (n=SDADASDA@gallery/Joe7) |
| 14:55.01 | Joe7 | hi |
| 14:55.42 | *** join/#debian wizzomafizzo (n=wizzo@80.34.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 14:55.51 | Joe7 | is there a way to change priority of an _already running_ process? |
| 14:55.58 | azeem | Joe7: renice |
| 14:56.05 | MatBoy | stainlessmice, I have a great idea !! 1 TFT each core.... you have a powerfull videowall than with very good resolution :P |
| 14:57.16 | *** join/#debian DrNach (n=Nach@DSL217-132-1-189.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:57.43 | NagyZ | abrotman hmm |
| 14:57.48 | NagyZ | how can I get mini.iso to not use X? :) |
| 14:57.52 | NagyZ | just use the standard, console installer... |
| 14:57.57 | abrotman | get the non-X one |
| 14:58.40 | DrNach | I'm having a strange problem which I was wondering if someone could help me with. Everything was going fine yesterday, today I see all my file systems are read only, I'm getting errors doing many things about it. I did not reboot for almost a week. So how did everything become read only? Can I fix it without rebooting? Is there something I should be worrying about now? |
| 14:58.47 | NagyZ | and where that would be? |
| 14:58.47 | grendelson | If I want to send mail on local MTA (from multi user) and also use amtp auth smarthost for outbound form apps then am I looking to get exim-daemon-light or exim or what is good option to start with? |
| 14:58.53 | Joe7 | azeem: thanks ;> |
| 14:59.01 | NagyZ | ah I have to put that one together |
| 14:59.03 | NagyZ | http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/cdrom/ |
| 14:59.05 | NagyZ | there isnt any .iso |
| 14:59.12 | NagyZ | well no problem ;> |
| 14:59.38 | grendelson | In debian FAQ it recommends nullmailer if I don;t watn to use any local mai but I do want to still receive status aalerts and backups reports etc ( so assuming I need some mta) |
| 15:00.02 | grendelson | Will exim-daemon-light do what I need or shoudl I jsut grab exim? |
| 15:00.18 | Braindead | grendelson: nullmailer actually delivers mail... |
| 15:00.58 | Braindead | grendelson: you could even read the description....there's not stated that's a pipe to /dev/null |
| 15:01.45 | grendelson | Braindead, I'm still trying to figure thsi all out - I just uninstalled mta and want to get a good working config jsut looking for where to start - I guess exim is as good a place as any... |
| 15:02.27 | *** join/#debian Zarock (n=zarock@APoitiers-153-1-50-85.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:02.41 | Braindead | grendelson: "uninstalling the mta" is a wrong thing to do anyway. installing another one that replaces it (see the Conflicts: and Replaces: field) is the thing to do,just aptitude install nullmailer |
| 15:03.01 | NagyZ | it's not a wrong thing |
| 15:03.05 | *** join/#debian deadcat (n=deadcat@c-71-193-45-165.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:03.09 | NagyZ | for example I dont need those whining messages from daemons |
| 15:03.24 | NagyZ | die exim, postfix rulez anyway |
| 15:03.24 | NagyZ | ;-) |
| 15:03.31 | grendelson | Braindead, Right I messed it up :-) BUT nullmailer I don;t think iswaht I want since that assumes I don;t wnat nay local mail delivery from user to user (like getting nightly cron alerts sent to my mail box?) |
| 15:03.37 | *** part/#debian Joe7 (n=SDADASDA@gallery/Joe7) |
| 15:03.42 | Braindead | for example having a "sendmail" binary is required by POSIX standards |
| 15:03.50 | *** join/#debian dererk[] (n=dash@h248-63.decidir.net) |
| 15:03.56 | *** join/#debian floe_ (n=konversa@i577B0E1A.versanet.de) |
| 15:03.57 | NagyZ | ln -s sendmail /bin/true |
| 15:03.57 | NagyZ | ;> |
| 15:04.05 | NagyZ | ah, replace those two |
| 15:04.08 | Braindead | for example cron depends on an mta anyway. cutting it out with dpkg is brute and senseless |
| 15:04.19 | NagyZ | but works!;p |
| 15:04.20 | *** part/#debian shattten (n=jager@165.72.200.10) |
| 15:04.52 | grendelson | Man I hosed it up bad then - I was following FAW wiki and jsut copied lines - i just realize it was usign force purge -- oops. now to reconfigure package :-) |
| 15:04.53 | Braindead | grendelson: just install nullmailer. it works. good for you! got milk? |
| 15:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 663] by debhelper |
| 15:05.19 | Bhavesh | milk? where? i want some |
| 15:05.20 | grendelson | Braindead, So it will allow me to still get daemon messages, send to other user, and send via smtp auth? |
| 15:06.05 | Braindead | mmm nullmailer should now support smtp auth. if it doesn't use ssmtp |
| 15:07.42 | *** join/#debian factorx (n=asdf@dslb-084-061-097-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:07.52 | factorx | hi |
| 15:08.08 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:08.28 | jelly-home | I want to make me laptop use the wireless automagically when I disconnect the ethernet, and I want it to handle different locations. Which package should I install? |
| 15:08.42 | grendelson | Nullmailer is a replacement MTA for hosts, which relay to a fixed set of smart relays < but since it replaces mail-transport-agent I wont get local mail like cron job stuff! This is so confusing |
| 15:08.44 | *** join/#debian holdenSK (n=holden@amber.aeternal.net) |
| 15:08.59 | petemc | jelly-home: ifplugd perhaps |
| 15:09.01 | Braindead | grendelson: FFS just INSTALL IT |
| 15:09.18 | h3sp4wn | jelly-home: maybe network-manager (but it is a pos) |
| 15:09.20 | grendelson | Braindead, Sorry I just do research a lot. |
| 15:09.24 | Braindead | it WORKS,it relays the mails directed to root to a mail address you like |
| 15:09.25 | Supaplex | someone call a waaaahmulance already |
| 15:10.33 | abrotman | i can't remember the trigger |
| 15:10.57 | SerajewelKS | is there an option to mysqldump that will use one line per record? i need to manually sync two databases because of a DNS issue, and diff isn't going to help with all the records of each table on one line. |
| 15:11.12 | SerajewelKS | i can't find anything in the manpage =/ |
| 15:11.36 | abrotman | !boohoo |
| 15:12.04 | *** join/#debian dfx- (i=dfx@mercy.prism.net) |
| 15:12.22 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 15:12.51 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: ask #mysql ? |
| 15:13.03 | NagyZ | hm |
| 15:13.11 | NagyZ | how can I make isolinux.bin from isolinux.cfg? |
| 15:13.24 | tarzeau | does NTP time also drift badly away for others when they burn cd images? |
| 15:14.24 | *** join/#debian orestyle3 (n=1896cf3d@68-185-24-98.static.mdfd.or.charter.com) |
| 15:14.43 | *** join/#debian khaije1 (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:14.54 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: =( |
| 15:14.59 | NagyZ | abrotman do you know it? |
| 15:15.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 669] by debhelper |
| 15:15.07 | *** join/#debian the_mug (n=the_mug@smtp.craftontull.com) |
| 15:15.13 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 15:15.13 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 15:16.04 | cahoot | tarzeau: my nf2 system can start to gain time relative to NTP even w/o cdburning |
| 15:16.20 | orestyle3 | how do you rebuild a debian raid with mdadm? |
| 15:16.58 | cahoot | tarzeau: seems related to whether acpi is enabled or not |
| 15:17.11 | abrotman | NagyZ: know what? |
| 15:17.17 | abrotman | oh .. no .. maybe ask #debian-boot on oftc |
| 15:17.23 | tarzeau | cahoot: which kernel version? and does your bios have an option for FSB spectrum? |
| 15:17.40 | *** join/#debian Musikolo (n=musikolo@248.Red-80-33-127.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:17.42 | *** join/#debian ntdt (n=tnd@222.253.75.231) |
| 15:18.23 | ntdt | did some one compile kchmviewer on sarge ? I have problem with -lXext |
| 15:18.25 | cahoot | tarzeau: any 2.6 kernel - FSB is modifiable (IIRC) asus a7n8x |
| 15:19.04 | tarzeau | cahoot: try turn off the FSB? it helped for my computer. i'm with 2.4 still here, i'll see if it gets better with 2.6 |
| 15:19.15 | cahoot | tarzeau: as I understand it it's a matter of faulty BIOS |
| 15:19.29 | garo | what makes a package 'untrusted' ? unknown developer ? untested ? something else ? |
| 15:19.40 | cahoot | tarzeau: but I'll try you idea |
| 15:19.44 | cahoot | your |
| 15:19.49 | tarzeau | cahoot: it helped on one of our computers |
| 15:19.54 | *** join/#debian jetx (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 15:19.54 | Musikolo | Hi, I have a question: What Ubuntu flavour would you install on a k6-2 333MHz 256MB ? |
| 15:20.07 | Ronin | Musikolo: none, we'd install debian |
| 15:20.10 | tarzeau | cahoot: ah you mean the noapic. yes, but that's just one ugly workaround |
| 15:20.22 | tarzeau | Musikolo: #ubuntu |
| 15:20.27 | Musikolo | thanks! |
| 15:20.27 | tarzeau | Musikolo: they have flowers? |
| 15:20.41 | tarzeau | Musikolo: with that little amount of memory i'd not try gnome nor kde on it |
| 15:20.43 | cahoot | tarzeau: it only manifests itself sporadically - like every 10:th reboot or so |
| 15:20.49 | *** part/#debian Musikolo (n=musikolo@248.Red-80-33-127.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:21.02 | Xteven | hello, is there an ftp/ftps proxy package in debian ? I need clients to connect over ssl and the backend to be plain ftp |
| 15:21.30 | dfx- | what's a good xterm that supports transparencies .. I'm looking to have a transparent blueish background - ive been playign with mrxvt but i can't seem to get all the settings right |
| 15:21.35 | ntdt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.45 | Braindead | dfx-: aterm |
| 15:21.47 | nvz | I am getting an error message on debian-multimedia that the public key isnt available |
| 15:22.04 | stew | nvz: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 15:22.08 | dfx- | Braindead: installing it now |
| 15:22.18 | nvz | stew: this happens on apt-get update |
| 15:22.27 | nvz | stew: when I added the mirror |
| 15:22.30 | stew | yeah |
| 15:22.33 | Braindead | nvz: just read the message or http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.html |
| 15:22.41 | Braindead | dpkg: tell nvz about marillat key |
| 15:23.25 | nvz | ok |
| 15:23.44 | nvz | I should just have my mirror setup so I can fetch this crap locally |
| 15:23.48 | *** join/#debian geli (n=gelignit@p5090F068.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:24.01 | nvz | I know one of the boxes here has this stuff cached already |
| 15:25.38 | garo | what makes a package 'untrusted' ? unknown developer ? untested ? something else ? |
| 15:25.51 | *** join/#debian zly (n=zly@d40a7cd1.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 15:25.52 | *** join/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 15:26.17 | *** join/#debian itguru (n=guru@host86-139-119-34.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:26.23 | *** join/#debian fluxi (n=fluxi@87.64.239.38) |
| 15:26.34 | *** part/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 15:26.37 | *** join/#debian segfault_ (n=nobody@c-69-143-66-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:28.53 | *** join/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 15:28.55 | *** join/#debian SlaCKjr (n=junior@c93403bf.virtua.com.br) |
| 15:28.59 | *** join/#debian mrcoyote (n=mrcoyote@AAnnecy-256-1-179-70.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:29.56 | *** join/#debian wizzomafizzo (n=wizzo@80.34.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 15:29.57 | itguru | What's the best way to disrupt an illegal wireless AP... wirelessly? |
| 15:30.02 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:30.12 | *** join/#debian Firestarter_ (n=Firestar@rrcs-24-213-233-198.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 15:30.39 | Xteven | itguru : unplug it |
| 15:30.48 | Xteven | oh wait |
| 15:30.52 | nvz | heh |
| 15:30.58 | Xteven | itguru : jam the signal, if it needs to be wireless |
| 15:31.34 | *** join/#debian hobbes- (n=cmrc@124.104.86.134) |
| 15:31.53 | garo | build a network on the same channel, and run 'nc otherhostonyourwirelessnetwork 12345 < /dev/random' |
| 15:32.05 | itguru | Xteven-> If we knew where it was, we would unplug it |
| 15:32.23 | itguru | Xteven-> Jamming the signal... sounds good - how would we do that? |
| 15:32.48 | garo | you would do that by taking my advice |
| 15:32.52 | Xteven | no idea :) |
| 15:32.54 | itguru | garo-> what would that do? kill it? |
| 15:33.32 | garo | it would send random bits on the frequency of that network |
| 15:33.37 | Xteven | garo : that most likely wouldn't work because of the TCP |
| 15:34.05 | shingouz | take a magnetron off a microwave and point it at the AP. should fry the box... ;) |
| 15:34.25 | *** join/#debian khaije1 (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:34.35 | Xteven | does anyone know of an ftp ssl gateway ? |
| 15:34.51 | *** join/#debian repp (n=repp@151.57.194.220) |
| 15:34.53 | garo | Xteven: why's that ? tcp will just make it send it the same packet over and over |
| 15:35.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 675] by debhelper |
| 15:35.20 | repp | is iptables-p2p usable? i don't see updates since 2004... |
| 15:35.21 | garo | and that would still jam the frequency |
| 15:35.55 | NagyZ | well |
| 15:36.06 | NagyZ | abrotman mini iso does not offer "Install from http/ftp.." |
| 15:36.09 | NagyZ | only cd. |
| 15:36.11 | NagyZ | so it sucks. |
| 15:36.35 | itguru | But they have a secure key in place already |
| 15:36.48 | Fox | how could you install a full debian with just a mini-iso ? |
| 15:36.58 | *** join/#debian PDani_ (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 15:37.04 | NagyZ | itguru how can it be illegal? |
| 15:37.10 | NagyZ | Fox from network? |
| 15:37.18 | *** join/#debian penguin__ (n=penguin@adsl-69-211-109-115.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 15:37.32 | Fox | then mini-iso offers http/ftp |
| 15:37.40 | *** join/#debian Studiosus_ (n=vsorokin@89.113.16.17) |
| 15:37.44 | NagyZ | no it does not. |
| 15:37.53 | NagyZ | it's right in front of me (I mean the installer main menu) |
| 15:37.53 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:38.17 | syntaxx | NagyZ, you just downloaded the netinstall? |
| 15:38.23 | NagyZ | no |
| 15:38.25 | NagyZ | mini-iso |
| 15:38.29 | *** part/#debian ntdt (n=tnd@222.253.75.231) |
| 15:38.36 | NagyZ | and as I have no cd [at least my pata is unsupported] and PXE fails... |
| 15:40.28 | NagyZ | but I have to attend a meeting now |
| 15:40.33 | NagyZ | be back in a few hours |
| 15:40.34 | NagyZ | ;[ |
| 15:41.00 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:42.03 | *** join/#debian abchirk__ (n=rapunzel@e179019216.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:44.25 | *** join/#debian Persilon (n=ariel@200.123.150.117) |
| 15:44.55 | Persilon | Hi, I'm trying to move all my mail traffic to another server via iptables (dnat and snat) but the rules seem to work whenever they want |
| 15:46.31 | *** join/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@83.212.201.3) |
| 15:47.35 | *** join/#debian hoarycripple (n=hoarycri@71.192.52.164) |
| 15:47.37 | *** join/#debian raff (n=raff@216.194.26.37) |
| 15:48.23 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:48.48 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (n=blah@www.all-spec.com) |
| 15:49.54 | *** part/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@83.212.201.3) |
| 15:50.17 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 15:50.30 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@230-215.static.dedicado.com.uy) |
| 15:51.04 | *** join/#debian Nenillo (i=cool@125.Red-80-34-5.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:51.10 | *** part/#debian Nenillo (i=cool@125.Red-80-34-5.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:51.57 | *** join/#debian wilcox (i=wilco@a-machine-on-the-internet.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:52.01 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:53.30 | *** join/#debian repp_ (n=repp@151.57.229.176) |
| 15:54.15 | *** join/#debian simonbun (i=s@d51A4D773.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:55.02 | simonbun | quick question; how do i check for httpd.conf syntax errors without restarting apache? |
| 15:55.04 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:55.27 | petemc | apache -C file , i think |
| 15:55.36 | abrotman | ask #apache .. but i think there's an option to apachectl you can use |
| 15:55.45 | petemc | oh, maybe -t |
| 15:55.48 | *** part/#debian Persilon (n=ariel@200.123.150.117) |
| 15:56.00 | simonbun | i'll check in #apache |
| 15:56.05 | petemc | read the man page |
| 15:56.23 | *** join/#debian fiveop (n=fiveop@p54B8CB38.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:56.24 | wilcox | apachectl configtest |
| 15:56.42 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:57.45 | *** join/#debian Jussi (n=jussi@port190.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:57.48 | simonbun | for the record, its apache2 -t, like you said petemc :) |
| 15:58.05 | wilcox | or apachectl configtest |
| 15:58.09 | petemc | what wilcox said should work too id imagine |
| 15:58.27 | *** join/#debian codeshepherd (n=codeshep@59.92.88.244) |
| 15:58.29 | wilcox | :) |
| 15:58.32 | codeshepherd | what is phpize ? I am trying to install php-java bridge in debian.. I don't fine any results for phpize in apt-cache search |
| 15:58.42 | *** join/#debian Led_Zeppelin (n=dummy@cpe-71-72-86-252.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 15:58.51 | SinnerG | phpize creates the configure script I think |
| 15:58.59 | SinnerG | btw, better ask @ php ;) |
| 15:59.02 | SinnerG | #php that is |
| 15:59.14 | *** join/#debian Heston (n=heston@unaffiliated/heston) |
| 15:59.18 | Led_Zeppelin | Hi, all I am trying to configure my X11 on etch. I have an ATI card. Can someone please assist me? |
| 15:59.26 | *** join/#debian g333k_work (n=gonzalo@200.48.115.175) |
| 15:59.34 | Ronin | Led_Zeppelin: only if you tell us the problem |
| 15:59.37 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:59.58 | *** join/#debian candyban (n=candyban@213.239.174.150) |
| 16:00.08 | Led_Zeppelin | Ronin: ok, startx gives me this "error" XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
| 16:00.17 | Led_Zeppelin | Ronin: not sure what else to do. |
| 16:00.20 | candyban | Hi guys |
| 16:01.50 | candyban | I'm having a "weird" problem ... I noticed that one of my online boxes was restarted (according to the logs) about 2 hours ago ... but the "uptime" command gives me 17 hours of uptime ... can anyone explain how this is possible? |
| 16:02.26 | *** part/#debian fiveop (n=fiveop@p54B8CB38.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:02.37 | candyban | or is this a definite clue that my box has been pwned? |
| 16:02.46 | Led_Zeppelin | candyban: check your clocks |
| 16:03.15 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:03.22 | abrotman | candyban: is ntp running daily? |
| 16:03.28 | cahoot | candyban: what's the msg in the logs that you interpret as restart? |
| 16:03.39 | candyban | Led_Zeppeling: according to the clock on the box and the time in the logs, the reboot happened 2 hours ago 15:58 cet (it's now 18:04 cet) |
| 16:03.40 | abrotman | candyban: it's entirely possible that the clock was skewed .. and when it came up .. the time got set correctly |
| 16:03.54 | abrotman | candyban: what does "date" return ? |
| 16:04.38 | candyban | abrotman: the current date |
| 16:04.43 | abrotman | and the time? |
| 16:04.49 | beardy | Yes, but what about the time. |
| 16:04.55 | candyban | abrotman: current time |
| 16:04.59 | abrotman | which is ... |
| 16:05.03 | beardy | ... |
| 16:05.06 | candyban | Wed Sep 27 18:04:25 CEST 2006 |
| 16:05.09 | abrotman | thank you :) |
| 16:05.27 | abrotman | candyban: and that is the correct time? |
| 16:05.32 | beardy | Yes. |
| 16:05.35 | abrotman | for CEST i mean |
| 16:05.48 | cahoot | was |
| 16:05.55 | abrotman | how about hwclock ? |
| 16:06.03 | candyban | 18:04:48 up 2:07, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.20, 0.24 .... the correct time is now 18:06:15 CEST (2 minute difference or so) |
| 16:06.10 | *** join/#debian jahjah (n=bada_g@m137.net81-64-204.noos.fr) |
| 16:06.22 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:06.26 | candyban | hwclock: Wed 27 Sep 2006 06:05:35 PM CEST -0.911978 seconds |
| 16:07.01 | beardy | And what is wrong with that uptime output? |
| 16:07.16 | abrotman | !info gnash sid |
| 16:07.21 | dpkg | gnash: (free Flash movie player), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.1+cvs20060924.1330-1 (sid), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 16:07.32 | abrotman | candyban: i'd guess that's your problem |
| 16:07.47 | candyban | ? |
| 16:07.52 | beardy | abrotman: What? |
| 16:08.13 | abrotman | the hwclock thinks it is 6AM .. linux thinks it is 6pm |
| 16:08.17 | *** join/#debian esters (n=tty4@87.110.101.153) |
| 16:08.24 | abrotman | bm |
| 16:08.25 | candyban | beardy: the problem with the uptime is that : messages:Sep 27 15:58:20 server3 kernel: Initializing CPU#0 |
| 16:08.25 | abrotman | nm |
| 16:09.05 | candyban | and other kernel stuff which is logged with timestamp Sep 27 15:58:20 |
| 16:09.05 | beardy | candyban: Come again? |
| 16:09.54 | candyban | beardy: my system was rebooted (according to my logs) about 2 hours ago ... my uptime reports 18 hours of uptime ... the reboot was not scheduled nor expected |
| 16:09.56 | beardy | candyban: That was two hours ago, your uptime is 2 hours, what is the problem? |
| 16:10.04 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:10.05 | candyban | huh? |
| 16:10.06 | beardy | candyban: No, it doesn't. |
| 16:10.22 | abrotman | candyban: what does uptime say ? |
| 16:10.47 | beardy | 18:04:48 up 2:07, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.20, 0.24, see? "2:07" nothing wrong at all |
| 16:10.50 | candyban | beardy: oooh ... I'm so stupid |
| 16:10.57 | abrotman | oh |
| 16:10.58 | *** join/#debian PDani__ (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 16:10.59 | abrotman | i missed tha |
| 16:11.24 | beardy | candyban: Heh, can happen to everyone. The first value is the time. Now you know. |
| 16:11.57 | *** join/#debian holycow (n=a@mail.wjsgroup.com) |
| 16:11.59 | candyban | sorry guys |
| 16:12.01 | *** join/#debian usn_work (n=usn@p54932CB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:12.11 | beardy | No problem, as long as you're learning. |
| 16:12.51 | candyban | beardy: :) ... thank you guys for helping me with my problem ... now I just need to figure out why it rebooted ... |
| 16:13.09 | candyban | problem being this time my stupidity :) |
| 16:14.08 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:14.15 | *** join/#debian usn_work (n=usn@p54932CB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:14.42 | *** join/#debian anarchist (n=anarchis@ADijon-258-1-29-250.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:15.19 | enouf | candyban: try looking at /var/log/auth.log or auth.log.0 |
| 16:15.22 | candyban | I thought my box was compromised and somehow figured that they would change logs or uptime to confuse me ... appearently the only one who was confusing me was myself |
| 16:15.35 | candyban | enouf: I did ... nothing "weird" there |
| 16:15.42 | *** join/#debian MetaPhaze_laptop (n=metaphaz@216-161-100-119.roch.qwest.net) |
| 16:15.49 | *** join/#debian tminos (n=ben@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:d9) |
| 16:16.44 | candyban | enouf: everything just "starts" again at 15:58:20 ... no logins not many "failed login" messages no special forged/incomplete packets, ... |
| 16:17.26 | tminos | is it possible to have ifup/etc/network/interfaces bring up an entire range? I have about 90 addresses I need to add to a webserver and having an entry for every one of them will be slightly tedious to manage.. |
| 16:17.51 | *** join/#debian modulo7 (n=a@e178238090.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:18.07 | penguin__ | I used dd to copy iso CD image to HD. What command checks if image matches CD? |
| 16:18.08 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:18.14 | enouf | candyban: I'm no expert .. was it a complete reboot? .. or just services restarting? (ala usr/sbin/cron perhaps) - was there a power spike/failure? |
| 16:18.30 | candyban | tminos: for a in seq 0 90; do ifup eth0:$a; done ? |
| 16:18.40 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 16:18.59 | *** join/#debian RichiH_fallback (n=richih@unaffiliated/richih-fallback) |
| 16:19.14 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@ecw201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:19.16 | tminos | candyban: I meant in the interfaces file itself actually |
| 16:19.28 | candyban | enouf: the kernel outputs and initialises all the devices (including cpu, memory, ...) I suppose it's a complete reboot |
| 16:19.43 | modulo7 | penguin__: please post the whole dd command you used. |
| 16:19.44 | enouf | candyban: sounds like it |
| 16:19.48 | Braindead | tminos: interface aliases are deprecated anyway |
| 16:19.52 | stew | penguin__: you could compare "cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum" to "md5sum /path/to/iso" |
| 16:19.59 | enouf | candyban: power issue? |
| 16:20.06 | tminos | Braindead: so whats the new thing to use? |
| 16:20.09 | Braindead | tminos: just add a script in up or post-up that uses iproute to add the addresses to the fisical device |
| 16:20.10 | candyban | enouf: I hope so |
| 16:20.21 | Braindead | tminos: ip addr add $IP foo foo fo |
| 16:20.38 | enouf | candyban: well .. make sure it's not your PSU ... otherwise invest in UPS |
| 16:20.50 | penguin__ | md5sum thanks. let me look at that. |
| 16:20.53 | *** join/#debian Led_Zeppelin (n=dummy@cpe-71-72-86-252.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 16:20.55 | tminos | Braindead: gotcha |
| 16:20.56 | tminos | thanks |
| 16:22.11 | candyban | enouf: it's located at a hosting company |
| 16:22.13 | *** join/#debian khaije____ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:22.48 | *** join/#debian Filbert (n=filbert@d54C14421.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:23.03 | candyban | anyways, thanks a million for listening and assisting me with my (imaginary) problem |
| 16:23.20 | *** join/#debian pihhan (i=pihhan@2a01:b0:1134:a1:200:f8ff:fe09:4036) |
| 16:23.22 | codeshepherd | I am trying to install php-java bridge in my machine.. when I do configure it says php-config not found.. apt-cache also does not return any results.. which package does php-config belong to ? |
| 16:23.59 | Covener | codeshepherd: phpN-dev (apt-cache search php|grep dev) |
| 16:23.59 | codeshepherd | how do I find which package a file comes from ? |
| 16:24.02 | *** join/#debian not_benh (n=benh@sphinx.powells.com) |
| 16:24.08 | not_benh | good morning all |
| 16:24.16 | codeshepherd | Covener: I have php5-dev installed :( |
| 16:24.21 | Covener | codeshepherd: dpkg -S I believe |
| 16:24.22 | candyban | codeshepherd: apt-file ? |
| 16:24.28 | not_benh | are there any big pitfalls to switching a kubuntu install to strait debian? |
| 16:24.30 | codeshepherd | ya .. apt-file.. thanls |
| 16:24.36 | not_benh | I was looking to track testing |
| 16:25.01 | Braindead | not_benh: well...lots of |
| 16:25.17 | not_benh | so would I just change the apt/sources.list to point to debian/testing then apt-update && apt-distupgrade |
| 16:25.31 | not_benh | Braindead: hehe |
| 16:25.34 | not_benh | like what? |
| 16:25.48 | penguin__ | What does md5sum do? |
| 16:25.53 | candyban | not_benh: it's a bad idea ... |
| 16:25.55 | Braindead | not_benh: you might wanna use aptitude and his dependency resolver....and lots of blood and sweat. maybe sacrifice a goat... |
| 16:25.55 | h3sp4wn | not_benh: remove all of X first |
| 16:26.07 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:26.31 | not_benh | so would it be cleaner to just backup and reinstall? |
| 16:26.49 | h3sp4wn | not_benh: If you don't you will definately have issues with xserver-xorg-driver-* becoming xserver-xorg-video-* |
| 16:26.51 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h126n1fls34o998.telia.com) |
| 16:26.58 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 16:27.04 | wwallace | hmm |
| 16:27.13 | candyban | not_benh: that would be a good idea :) |
| 16:27.14 | not_benh | h3sp4wn: humm... ya thats a bigone |
| 16:27.29 | not_benh | candyban: cool. |
| 16:27.40 | Anarka | backup and try ;) |
| 16:28.00 | h3sp4wn | not_benh: Remove as much as possible first - and you can do it |
| 16:28.14 | Anarka | it will work... but you'll have some issues |
| 16:28.25 | Anarka | until it really works ok |
| 16:28.33 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 16:28.51 | *** join/#debian angelo_ (n=angelo@73-6-ftth.onsnet.nu) |
| 16:28.54 | not_benh | Anarka: well if its that much hastle it sounds like it would be faster to just start from scratch. |
| 16:29.09 | Anarka | probably |
| 16:29.09 | *** join/#debian dsop (n=dsp@p54965D5E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:29.12 | angelo_ | hey anyone here knows how to install fonts in wine .. in #winehq everybody is asleep I guess :( |
| 16:29.16 | Anarka | but reinstall is such a windows concept :P |
| 16:29.39 | penguin__ | How to compare two checksums on the command line? |
| 16:29.43 | Braindead | angelo_: Recommends: wine-utils, msttcorefonts |
| 16:30.07 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:30.09 | Anarka | not_benh you'll do a dist-upgrade and then just check if no ubuntu packages are still installed |
| 16:30.13 | wwallace | !compiz |
| 16:30.13 | dpkg | i heard compiz is probably a combined window manager / composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. Currently, it is only working correctly if run on Xgl. |
| 16:30.25 | Anarka | i think it shouldnt be that much of a problem |
| 16:30.45 | *** join/#debian Yperite (n=XXX@220.106.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 16:30.47 | cahoot | penguin__: just list them or use cmp? |
| 16:31.11 | Anarka | since most if not all packages on etch are newer so they will probably get upgraded |
| 16:31.30 | angelo_ | ok thnx |
| 16:31.34 | *** part/#debian angelo_ (n=angelo@73-6-ftth.onsnet.nu) |
| 16:31.49 | candyban | what is the status of the aiglx server (or something)? if noone knows I'll google for it ... just wanted to hear from people who might have used it already (I used xgl and it's quite nice, although I did not manage to get my keyboard mapping to work) |
| 16:31.51 | penguin__ | I did diff `filename.iso` `/dev/cdrom` |
| 16:32.01 | azeem | candyban: it doesn't work out of the box yet |
| 16:32.15 | penguin__ | that didnt work |
| 16:32.17 | h3sp4wn | candyban: Works with the xorg 7.1 in unstable |
| 16:32.32 | azeem | candyban: xorg-7.1 (which includes AIGLX) is in unstable, but not compiz or any other featured compositing manager |
| 16:32.50 | *** join/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 16:33.15 | candyban | h3sp4wn: does it have similar capabilities? (will it be like QT vs GTK or will they eventually have a common API?) |
| 16:33.24 | Led_Zeppelin | what is the best way to configure Xserver on etch? |
| 16:33.36 | Led_Zeppelin | i want to redo my X11 configuretion from scratch |
| 16:33.38 | Braindead | Led_Zeppelin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:33.46 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-84-11.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:33.46 | Braindead | Led_Zeppelin: dpkg-reconfigure --plow xserver-xorg |
| 16:33.59 | cydork | Braindead: plow is by default i guess |
| 16:34.02 | h3sp4wn | candyban: the xfce compositing is pretty good |
| 16:34.09 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:34.10 | Led_Zeppelin | hmm |
| 16:34.26 | Led_Zeppelin | how do I remove xserver-Xfree86? |
| 16:34.29 | Led_Zeppelin | since its depreciated |
| 16:34.36 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: aptitude install xorg |
| 16:35.06 | candyban | k3sp4wn: I really liked compiz, although it needs quite a lot of finishing and polishing work |
| 16:35.06 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: if you are running etch, then "aptitude dist-upgrade" would replace xfree with xorg |
| 16:35.09 | Led_Zeppelin | stew: thanks! |
| 16:35.35 | h3sp4wn | candyban: There is glucose which should give aiglx all the features of xgl without breaking as many things |
| 16:36.07 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 16:36.47 | *** join/#debian iturk (n=jony@193.136.225.1) |
| 16:36.47 | iturk | hi there i am trying to connect to a WPA network and i have this problem -> http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2006-July/013706.html || The point is due to the error in the end of the log i cannot connect to the wpa network !! Is there anyone with the same problem ?? My board is a "prism GT" and i am using the hostap driver !! |
| 16:36.51 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@dslb-084-058-145-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:37.40 | *** join/#debian bitter (n=abc@c-71-192-139-98.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 16:37.53 | *** join/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 16:38.06 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:38.07 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone know how to use the fbset command? my FB resolution is too high, I need to lower it! |
| 16:38.18 | *** join/#debian war95 (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 16:38.26 | h3sp4wn | iturk: afaik the prism 54 driver is still incomplete (doesn't support wpa) |
| 16:38.45 | *** join/#debian lepton (n=john@74.136.202.218) |
| 16:39.12 | iturk | h3sp4wn: also i am using the testing from debian from wireless tools but also it doesnt work |
| 16:40.21 | *** join/#debian p0seidon (n=poseidon@68.23.97.92) |
| 16:40.39 | *** join/#debian Jostein (n=kjonigse@host86-135-226-253.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:42.09 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:42.37 | *** join/#debian spamhog (n=tosh@xd-85-20-126-22.mi2.albacom.net) |
| 16:45.42 | *** join/#debian elif (n=arthur@200-158-224-30.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 16:45.58 | *** join/#debian ibmobile (n=chatzill@mail.collegecopyshop.com) |
| 16:46.07 | *** part/#debian Sp4rKy (n=maxenced@ubuntu/member/sp4rky) |
| 16:46.27 | ibmobile | I'm having problems with a failed apt-get upgrade |
| 16:46.35 | *** join/#debian Ox0F0-0FF (n=pierre@201.38.238.66) |
| 16:46.36 | *** join/#debian lex (n=toncha@200.57.28.42) |
| 16:47.15 | ibmobile | perl-base is reporting a conflict with libarchive-tar-perl |
| 16:47.23 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:47.35 | ibmobile | perl-base is trying to overwrite /usr/lib/perl/5.8 |
| 16:47.55 | lex | Hulo ... a cyrus imap question for ya: Need to delete a message in many mailboxes from the cyrus store... course i can find /store -exec fgrep SUBJECT \{\}\ && rm \{\} and stuff, but wont that fsck up the message store? |
| 16:47.56 | ibmobile | which is also defined by libarchive-tar-perl |
| 16:48.06 | lex | So... how do i do this without humping the store? |
| 16:48.08 | ibmobile | how do I resolve this? |
| 16:48.11 | Dianora | investigating |
| 16:48.19 | *** join/#debian amee2k (n=thomas@p5497DA0D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:48.36 | elif | hi everybody anyone knows a better chm viewer, I have xCHM, but its just too ugly the fonts, and every thing. |
| 16:48.48 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone know how to reset a fb? |
| 16:49.57 | *** join/#debian opensores (n=OS@client-82-19-19-61.mant.adsl.ntlworld.com) |
| 16:50.15 | enouf | Led_Zeppelin: maybe some info : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html |
| 16:50.23 | Led_Zeppelin | yep, I seen that |
| 16:50.33 | *** join/#debian tolsen (n=tim@dsl254-098-153.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:51.37 | *** join/#debian Yamaraj (n=admin@59.94.43.18) |
| 16:52.43 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:52.58 | *** join/#debian dos000 (n=dos000@wsp05974758wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:53.31 | vin` | elif: xchm works fine here, there's also gnochm (gnome) and kchmviewer (kde) if you use one of those. |
| 16:55.05 | Yamaraj | Intel DRI problem is still not solved. I had to fix it by replacing libs from the freedesktop snapshots. |
| 16:55.07 | ibmobile | is there a way for me to see exactly what the conflict is? |
| 16:55.35 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:55.39 | ibmobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.47 | *** join/#debian nsx (n=jm@elation.rcbintegrated.com) |
| 16:55.59 | ibmobile | if it's just trying to replace the symlink with the same thing, then it should be fine |
| 16:56.00 | nsx | why might text not show up in gtk apps? |
| 16:56.27 | ibmobile | how can I tell what the .deb's intentions are? |
| 16:57.38 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:57.50 | elif | vin: I will try those ones, thks ! :-) |
| 16:59.03 | MatBoy | cydork, beer ? |
| 16:59.11 | Braindead | ibmobile: check his postinst scripts? |
| 16:59.37 | MatBoy | Braindead, you can't talk.... and you can't 100% for sure not think :P |
| 16:59.37 | Yamaraj | Is there any simple way to rename eth1 (Intel 2200BG WiFi) to wlan0 etc? |
| 17:00.00 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, it;s not simple |
| 17:00.08 | *** join/#debian Yperite (n=XXX@220.106.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 17:00.10 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, but you can do it in some way I thought |
| 17:00.13 | cydork | MatBoy: you drunk? |
| 17:00.18 | Braindead | MatBoy: 18:56 < ibmobile> how can I tell what the .deb's intentions are? |
| 17:00.26 | *** join/#debian blackelf (n=blackelf@bte149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:00.29 | ibmobile | Braindead: how do I do that? |
| 17:00.35 | MatBoy | cydork, nah, I'm on coffee not that much alcohol in it... It;s not Irish :P |
| 17:00.50 | cydork | Yamaraj: check ifrename |
| 17:01.02 | Braindead | MatBoy: go back to your "memory ain't free" problems. you're just as useless as you're annoying |
| 17:01.05 | MatBoy | Braindead, I was pointing to your name |
| 17:01.10 | Yamaraj | cydork: I will. Thanks! |
| 17:01.16 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:01.19 | MatBoy | Braindead, solved already |
| 17:01.27 | Braindead | yeah,funny third year's jokes about names. |
| 17:01.45 | MatBoy | Braindead, so you never have a laugh ? |
| 17:01.46 | *** join/#debian slakjunky (n=kypor@194.46.180.167) |
| 17:02.05 | Braindead | MatBoy: yeah,you're so original. a joke about my nick. |
| 17:02.21 | blondie | Braindead: a space follows a comma! |
| 17:02.27 | MatBoy | Braindead, come on man... in better words... take a better name :P |
| 17:02.32 | Yamaraj | Besides, GNOME 2.14.3 in Debian Etch Weekly-build 2006-09-25 is also not automounting my SATA DVD drive. System is ThinkPad R52. I also had to append "combined_mode=libata" to kernel boot string, otherwise the installer wouldn't detect the DVD at all. |
| 17:02.35 | abrotman | Braindead: you'll have to ignore MatBoy .. he's got issues |
| 17:02.47 | blondie | he's a mat |
| 17:02.47 | Braindead | abrotman: I noticed |
| 17:02.47 | blondie | a doormat |
| 17:02.53 | MatBoy | abrotman, you also when I heard someone here :P |
| 17:02.54 | MatBoy | hehe |
| 17:02.54 | blondie | or maybe just into mats? |
| 17:03.07 | *** join/#debian ncp (n=lasse@home.prefix.dk) |
| 17:03.11 | Ronin | likes getting walked on perhaps? |
| 17:03.13 | abrotman | MatBoy: what's your native language? your english is terrible |
| 17:03.19 | *** join/#debian n3kl (n=n3kl@71-33-173-246.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 17:03.22 | *** join/#debian shwag (n=swagner@static-71-165-111-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:03.22 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, what do you mean with that line ? |
| 17:03.24 | shwag | how do I uninstall something AND all the dependencies it installed ? |
| 17:03.32 | Braindead | ibmobile: if you've got the .deb right there you can just --unpack it or "explore" it with mc |
| 17:03.35 | MatBoy | abrotman, I really don't care ;) |
| 17:03.40 | abrotman | shwag: you should have used aptitude to install it |
| 17:03.40 | h3sp4wn | shwag: No problem if you used aptitude |
| 17:03.47 | abrotman | MatBoy: we do |
| 17:03.55 | MatBoy | abrotman, no, YOU !! |
| 17:03.57 | sepski | shwag, if you installed it orginaly with aptitude it's done automaticaly when you uninstall. otherways use deborphan |
| 17:04.02 | MatBoy | abrotman, never speak for someone else |
| 17:04.03 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: No icons show up on the desktop when any CD/DVD is inserted in the drive. Synaptic, however, can see the Debian DVDs. |
| 17:04.20 | MatBoy | abrotman, I thought I told you that before a while ago |
| 17:04.22 | abrotman | MatBoy: would you like me to take a poll ? |
| 17:04.22 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:04.49 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: This is exactly the same problem someone reported on GNOME forum - http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11318 |
| 17:04.54 | Braindead | ibmobile: just check the DEBIAN/ dir inside the .deb to check the postinst scripts |
| 17:04.58 | MatBoy | abrotman, waste of time, but if you want... I don't see why you should waste time on me than... oww damn.. I was ignoring you :) |
| 17:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 683] by debhelper |
| 17:05.13 | ibmobile | Braindead: how do I unpack it? |
| 17:05.27 | Braindead | ibmobile: man dpkg,see the --unpack option |
| 17:05.27 | ibmobile | I don't have mc installed :( |
| 17:05.34 | ibmobile | thanks |
| 17:05.37 | Braindead | mc always comes in handy,install it ;) |
| 17:05.38 | abrotman | MatBoy: because you're so f'in annoying, you don't contribute to the channel, and you just confuse people .. and i thought we might see if others share that opinion |
| 17:05.39 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, had that once too.. Have to thing about it, I never use my CDrom-player, only to burn stuff |
| 17:05.53 | Braindead | I agree. |
| 17:05.57 | *** join/#debian redir (n=robrien@dsl017-017-082.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:05.57 | MatBoy | abrotman, you only read what you want to read |
| 17:06.04 | abrotman | tard |
| 17:06.10 | MatBoy | quoting abrotman: SHUT UP |
| 17:06.17 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@V4e48.v.pppool.de) |
| 17:06.19 | abrotman | Yamaraj: where does the drive get mounted |
| 17:06.24 | abrotman | MatBoy: are you going to? |
| 17:06.34 | Laibsch | ~keyboard |
| 17:06.36 | apt | keyboard is, like, The main input device on PCs, it consists of all the letters in the alphabet and the numbers 0 through 9. Usually, especially on computer keyboards, there are extra keys like cursor keys and function keys. |
| 17:06.36 | ncp | i have by mistake deleted /usr/sbin/postqueue, how can i make a new one? i get this error when i run mailq ( mailq: fatal: execv /usr/sbin/postqueue: Exec format error ) |
| 17:06.36 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: Fedora has the same problem. Ubuntu and SUSE detect and work properly as they should, though. |
| 17:06.36 | *** join/#debian jor (n=jor@ip51cfee06.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 17:06.37 | abrotman | Yamaraj: from /etc/fstab |
| 17:06.38 | simonrvn | how the hell do you create a unix socket file? |
| 17:06.41 | MatBoy | abrotman, no, I will not listen to you |
| 17:06.52 | Laibsch | Ok, that was not so helpful |
| 17:06.55 | MatBoy | abrotman, not as long as someone else does not complain |
| 17:06.56 | MatBoy | ;) |
| 17:06.57 | ibmobile | hmm, can I unpack it into the current dir? |
| 17:07.04 | MatBoy | at leat 75% ;) |
| 17:07.05 | Yamaraj | abrotman: I'll check. I'm not on my laptop now. Gimme 2 mins. |
| 17:07.12 | abrotman | vin`: it's been like this for weeks .. he gives horrible advice .. and can barely speak english |
| 17:07.21 | abrotman | MatBoy: i'm not the only one to complain |
| 17:07.35 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, it's SATA.. wow, that's new ! |
| 17:07.36 | Braindead | ibmobile: I dunno what your current dir is. anyway the noisy brat kinda distracted me from your problem,so I'm gonna scroll back and read it |
| 17:07.45 | Laibsch | I wonder how to make sure I can type accents on my keyboard. I cannot seem to figure this out. Google gives lots of links but not all of them are relevant and a lot of them have an outdated feeling to them. |
| 17:07.46 | Ronin | MatBoy: at least try to be correct, no one expects perfect english and grammer but an attempt is always nice |
| 17:07.52 | ibmobile | thanks Braindead |
| 17:08.01 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:08.01 | MatBoy | Ronin, I'm typing too fast :) want to help :) |
| 17:08.02 | simonrvn | 'grammar' ;) |
| 17:08.09 | abrotman | you're not even trying to help |
| 17:08.19 | abrotman | simonrvn: there are library calls for it |
| 17:08.20 | ibmobile | I have a conflict between two packages afaict |
| 17:08.35 | MatBoy | abrotman, please stop, I will not respond on you anymore |
| 17:08.38 | Ronin | simonrvn: my point exaclty :) |
| 17:08.47 | abrotman | maybe you shouldn't respond to anyone ... |
| 17:08.51 | *** join/#debian fujihc (n=stefano@host48-164-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:08.58 | *** join/#debian paquin (n=paquin@host147-235-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:09.13 | simonrvn | abrotman: i know, but i want to make one manually |
| 17:09.20 | abrotman | simonrvn: like with a touch ? |
| 17:09.27 | simonrvn | e.g. yes |
| 17:09.30 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, it's working from commandline, or also nothing than ? |
| 17:09.38 | *** join/#debian linuxboyfriend (n=usama@203.101.182.210) |
| 17:09.51 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
| 17:09.57 | abrotman | simonrvn: everything i'm seeing shows it as a C call |
| 17:10.12 | simonrvn | ok |
| 17:10.17 | simonrvn | thank you |
| 17:10.20 | abrotman | simonrvn: oh wait |
| 17:10.24 | abrotman | !info socket sarge |
| 17:10.31 | dpkg | socket: (Multi purpose socket tool), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1-8 (sarge), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 17:10.35 | linuxboyfriend | can anyone tell me that how can i save a sequence of webpages i.e http://www.webpage.com/book/chapter001.htm to http://www.webpage.com/book/chapter100.htm |
| 17:10.40 | abrotman | with wget |
| 17:10.42 | ibmobile | I moved the perl-base_5.8.4-8sarge5_i386.deb to a test dir and want to extract it there to have a look at it, but dpkg --unpack looks to be extracting it into the root dir |
| 17:10.45 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 17:10.51 | *** join/#debian bonez39 (n=bogus@drjones.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 17:10.57 | abrotman | simonrvn: that might do it |
| 17:10.58 | MatBoy | abrotman, damn, msg the guy directly... you are doing thing that you tell other people not to do |
| 17:11.05 | abrotman | MatBoy: SHUT UP |
| 17:11.07 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:11.09 | jelly-home | Laibsch: what language are you trying to type in? Are you using X? |
| 17:11.10 | *** join/#debian ciaron (n=soth@cpc3-broo4-0-0-cust526.renf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:11.10 | MatBoy | abrotman, haha :D |
| 17:11.13 | abrotman | fucking idiot |
| 17:11.17 | simonrvn | yeh, i tried that, doesn't do it, it's a bit like nc |
| 17:11.26 | azeem | abrotman: please /ignore |
| 17:11.29 | cydork | linuxboyfriend: or lftp even |
| 17:11.37 | azeem | MatBoy: and you should be careful if you want to stick around here |
| 17:11.54 | abrotman | simonrvn: tcputils? |
| 17:11.57 | MatBoy | azeem, I'm not saying strange works |
| 17:11.59 | bonez39 | if my / (root directory) was on an IDE drive...that was pulled from my linux box...is it possible to create a new / on the hdd, it's SATA... I can't view it owing to the BIOS not recognizing past cylinder 1023 |
| 17:11.59 | abrotman | simonrvn: maybe azeem knows! |
| 17:12.00 | _Rocko | ibmobile, dpkg -x <deb file> <destination> |
| 17:12.14 | ibmobile | thanks _Rocko |
| 17:12.17 | linuxboyfriend | cydork: sorry? |
| 17:12.19 | azeem | I didn't find the start of your discussion in scrollback |
| 17:12.24 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: Yes, it's a SATA drive. R52 isn't very old piece of hardware. ;-) |
| 17:12.31 | abrotman | azeem: how do you create a socket .. without C |
| 17:12.38 | azeem | oh |
| 17:12.41 | abrotman | Yamaraj: /etc/fstab has the CD drive being mounted where? |
| 17:12.42 | azeem | redhat has a script |
| 17:12.45 | streuner | azeem: its always helpful to unterstand the *whole* convo... |
| 17:12.45 | azeem | mksock or so |
| 17:12.54 | MatBoy | azeem, abrotman uses rude words and talks like he thinks he can say everything... come on.. honest |
| 17:12.55 | Yamaraj | abrotman: /media/cdrom0 |
| 17:12.58 | simonrvn | unix socket to be exact |
| 17:12.58 | azeem | or rather a 20-line C program |
| 17:12.59 | *** join/#debian Ser_ (n=Ser@195.158.181.1) |
| 17:13.02 | abrotman | MatBoy: please stop already |
| 17:13.09 | abrotman | Yamaraj: and the device ? |
| 17:13.09 | Yamaraj | abrotman: But, it doesn't get automounted. |
| 17:13.17 | abrotman | Yamaraj: as in /dev/<blah> |
| 17:13.22 | MatBoy | abrotman, stop yourself man who is doing strange now ? |
| 17:13.28 | Braindead | ibmobile: sorry if I got it messed with --unpack,my bad |
| 17:13.31 | simonrvn | !confuse MatBoy |
| 17:13.32 | dpkg | Yes, them are our gerbil tomorrow, MatBoy? wellies of the dictatorship of tibet with extra cheese |
| 17:13.36 | abrotman | right ... |
| 17:13.44 | Laibsch | jelly-home: I use both X and console. My main language is German which is also my layout. I also type Japanese (different story) and French. I need accents for French, French loan words and name such as Rene. |
| 17:13.45 | Yamaraj | abrotman: /dev/scd0 |
| 17:13.49 | Braindead | ibmobile: it's -x as _Rocko suggested. sorry again for the misleading |
| 17:13.51 | ibmobile | k, as I suspected the conflicted file is a symlink to the same place |
| 17:13.51 | cydork | linuxboyfriend: it's very easy with lftp. just install lftp . |
| 17:13.51 | linuxboyfriend | can anyone guide me about that webpage saving problem? |
| 17:13.53 | abrotman | Yamaraj: ls -l /dev/scd0 |
| 17:14.07 | ibmobile | is there a way to tell apt-get to install it and ignore the conflict? |
| 17:14.23 | abrotman | !overwrite |
| 17:14.23 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 17:14.25 | simonrvn | ibmobile: and break it |
| 17:14.41 | *** join/#debian brady (n=brady@utdpat241017.utdallas.edu) |
| 17:14.46 | ibmobile | simonrvn: will it? |
| 17:14.59 | *** join/#debian janbatisuto (n=janbatis@ARouen-252-1-91-215.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:15.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 693] by debhelper |
| 17:15.06 | Braindead | well it's kinda strange to have such a bug on sarge,it's not even on the BTS |
| 17:15.07 | Yamaraj | abrotman: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom ..... |
| 17:15.09 | brady | what are some names of terminal-based spreadsheets? xspread is one, i think. |
| 17:15.47 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, but you said in the GUI not working, so you can mount it on the commandline and use it ? |
| 17:15.47 | abrotman | Yamaraj: it's not pointing somewhere else ? |
| 17:15.48 | simonrvn | fuck it, i have to get some things done. i'll check it out later |
| 17:15.48 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:15.48 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: Yes. I can mount the drive anyplace I want to. |
| 17:15.52 | *** join/#debian dutche- (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) |
| 17:16.07 | abrotman | Yamaraj: which kernel is this ? |
| 17:16.11 | Yamaraj | abrotman: sr0 points to scd0 |
| 17:16.19 | Yamaraj | 2.6.17 |
| 17:16.49 | abrotman | Yamaraj: what kind of CD/DVD are you trying to mount ? |
| 17:16.55 | Yamaraj | 2.6.17-2 686 to be precise. |
| 17:17.04 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:17.04 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:17.08 | *** join/#debian kleberfortaleza (n=knoppix@200.144.29.42) |
| 17:17.09 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, hwo have you set the channel where it's on in the BIOS ? |
| 17:17.14 | MatBoy | *how |
| 17:17.50 | Yamaraj | abrotman: It's a PATA DVD/CDRW drive that comes standard with ThinkPad R52 laptop. It connects to the board using a SATA-PATA bridge, as the board has a SATA interface. |
| 17:17.51 | *** part/#debian kleberfortaleza (n=knoppix@200.144.29.42) |
| 17:18.00 | ncp | when i type "mailq" i get this error "mailq: fatal: execv /usr/sbin/postqueue: Exec format error" could anybody tell me how to fix this problem? |
| 17:18.03 | abrotman | whoa |
| 17:18.10 | abrotman | Yamaraj: that's a bit silly .. but ok :) |
| 17:18.30 | azeem | ncp: that is postfix? |
| 17:18.33 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: No customization at all. Both Ubuntu and SUSE 10.1 work perfectly alright. But Fedora and Debian (and Frugal and Slackware) have problems. |
| 17:18.33 | abrotman | Yamaraj: is it a movie DVD ? |
| 17:18.41 | ncp | azeem: i think so but not sure |
| 17:18.41 | azeem | ncp: what does "file /usr/sbin/postqueue" say? |
| 17:18.54 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, I have seen a topic about it on a forum some time ago.. someone had the same problem, that was on CentOS |
| 17:18.56 | ncp | azeem: nothing in it |
| 17:18.59 | azeem | ncp: ? |
| 17:19.01 | Yamaraj | abrotman: Ive tried all types of DVDs, including the Debian etch DVD I used to install. |
| 17:19.09 | azeem | ncp: run the above command |
| 17:19.21 | abrotman | Yamaraj: just making sure it was a movie dvd .. as you're not supposed to mount those |
| 17:19.22 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:19.23 | *** join/#debian Servo888 (n=Servo888@c-69-246-109-229.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:19.56 | Yamaraj | abrotman: Please read this too; similar problem reported by some unknown Fedora user - http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11318 |
| 17:19.56 | Yamaraj | abrotman: I'm not exactly a newbie. ;-) |
| 17:19.56 | tarzeau | i'm getting: ERROR!!! libXft on this system is an old version. |
| 17:19.56 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.00 | tarzeau | but i have : libxft-dev 2.1.8.2-8 |
| 17:20.02 | abrotman | Yamaraj: yeah .. i read it |
| 17:20.04 | tarzeau | what's wrong? |
| 17:20.07 | *** join/#debian main2 (n=main2@85.148.12.76) |
| 17:20.11 | azeem | tarzeau: check config.log |
| 17:20.14 | azeem | if available |
| 17:20.15 | abrotman | Yamaraj: which version of debian ? |
| 17:20.17 | ncp | azeem: sorry thought you wrote cat... but this i the output from the above command /usr/sbin/postqueue: setgid empty |
| 17:20.18 | ibmobile | k, thanks everyone. that worked |
| 17:20.32 | azeem | ncp: reinstall postfix |
| 17:20.35 | azeem | if that is your MTA |
| 17:20.38 | *** join/#debian Gul (n=Gul@xdsl-87-78-250-203.netcologne.de) |
| 17:20.45 | ibmobile | no, the question is why this conflict occured |
| 17:20.46 | ncp | azeem: there is not other way? |
| 17:20.56 | Yamaraj | abrotman: Debian etch weekly-build 2006/09/25. THE latest available. |
| 17:20.59 | azeem | ncp: I don't know, it seems this file got corrupted |
| 17:21.00 | abrotman | must be a library call i suppose |
| 17:21.09 | azeem | ncp: better run debsums over the whole system to check the rest |
| 17:21.14 | ibmobile | I'm assuming that libarchive-tar-perl shouldn't have been trying to include the 8.4 symlink |
| 17:21.21 | azeem | abrotman: it's not in Debian yet |
| 17:21.23 | *** join/#debian wojci (n=wojci@port65.ds1-abs.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 17:21.32 | abrotman | azeem: then how did Yamaraj get it ? |
| 17:21.38 | azeem | Ubuntu? |
| 17:21.39 | azeem | dunno |
| 17:21.41 | abrotman | Yamaraj: what's the actual error you're getting ? |
| 17:21.44 | tarzeau | azeem: thanks |
| 17:21.45 | azeem | Fedory has it already I guess |
| 17:21.50 | Gul | hi, is there not an zlib-devel package? when i do a wget apt-cache search zlib-devel i get nothing |
| 17:21.51 | abrotman | Yamaraj: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 17:21.54 | azeem | abrotman: it's something similar to pmount, written by the RedHat guy who does HAL |
| 17:22.01 | Yamaraj | Yes, Fedora has gnome-mount I think. |
| 17:22.04 | abrotman | Gul: apt-cache search zlib dev |
| 17:22.12 | ibmobile | !bts |
| 17:22.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 17:22.25 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:23.12 | Yamaraj | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.6-dsl4 blah blah |
| 17:23.25 | Gul | abrotman, is zliblg-dev == zlib-devel? |
| 17:23.28 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:23.35 | abrotman | Yamaraj: ok |
| 17:23.39 | Gul | abrotman, thx |
| 17:23.46 | abrotman | Yamaraj: do you have an actual error message from your system ? |
| 17:24.26 | Yamaraj | There is no error message. Discs just don't get mounted as they should. It's probably a udev problem. |
| 17:24.46 | azeem | Yamaraj: did you try pmount? |
| 17:24.56 | Yamaraj | azeem: Not yet. Should I? |
| 17:25.04 | azeem | Yamaraj: is the problem auto-mounting, or the device not being recognized? |
| 17:25.07 | *** join/#debian bier_ (n=bier@pD954F0C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:25.07 | *** join/#debian ttyfscker (n=ttyfscke@unaffiliated/ttyfscker) |
| 17:25.14 | azeem | as udev doesn't mount things |
| 17:25.45 | Yamaraj | azeem: Since Synaptic can sense the disc in the drive and install anything I want from the DVDs, the device is surely being recognized. |
| 17:25.54 | Yamaraj | Also dmesg shows it's being recognized |
| 17:26.07 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:26.24 | Yamaraj | Funny thing is, when I don't use the "combined_mode=libata", the drive gets mounted properly but its very slow. |
| 17:27.03 | *** join/#debian liran_ (n=liran@212.199.177.203.static.012.net.il) |
| 17:27.04 | azeem | so mounting manually works? |
| 17:27.05 | Yamaraj | As DMA cannot be turned on a SATA drive, but it works in "PATA mode without DMA" when libata isn't enabled. Also, in this case the drive is /dev/hdc. |
| 17:27.13 | Yamaraj | azeem: Manual mounting works. |
| 17:27.26 | azeem | Yamaraj: which desktop environment are you using? |
| 17:27.41 | Yamaraj | GNOME 2.14.3 |
| 17:27.53 | Yamaraj | Please also take a look at this - http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux |
| 17:28.02 | azeem | check whether gnome-volume-manager is running and "Removable Devices" is configured correctly |
| 17:28.11 | Yamaraj | Apparently, a lot of ThinkPads have problems with SATA and Linux. |
| 17:28.29 | Yamaraj | azeem: Alright. |
| 17:28.31 | jelly-home | Laibsch: hm, I don't know how to enable or use the compose key or dead accent letters, but you could run something like "man latin1" and copy/paste :-| |
| 17:28.52 | Laibsch | Sounds like a plan |
| 17:28.57 | Laibsch | Thanks jelly-home. |
| 17:29.08 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:29.50 | grendelson | Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions on a realy server. I used exim and setup a smart host so now my apps that need outbound mail can send via gmail. Yeah! I also realized I never know i have systems alerts util I open MUTT. IS there a GNOME alert that shows me when my mbox has new messages? |
| 17:30.42 | Yamaraj | azeem: Both gnome-volume-manager and Removable Devices are OK. |
| 17:30.43 | Anarka | grendelson the gnome applet does that |
| 17:30.45 | Anarka | ... i think |
| 17:30.53 | azeem | Yamaraj: no idea then |
| 17:31.11 | Yamaraj | :( |
| 17:31.17 | grendelson | Ahh mail notification OK... I foudn it... |
| 17:31.20 | *** join/#debian zobel (n=zobel@debian/developer/zobel) |
| 17:31.26 | *** part/#debian zobel (n=zobel@debian/developer/zobel) |
| 17:31.47 | Yamaraj | Why SUSE and Ubuntu work 100% on the same system then? Are they using some specific patches? |
| 17:32.10 | jelly-home | Yamaraj: what kernel version are you using? I have (custom) 2.6.17, have added the libata boot options and my dvd performs decently now. This is a Z60m though, not R52. |
| 17:32.43 | *** join/#debian dvst (n=Javier@201.208.112.123) |
| 17:32.54 | *** join/#debian Disputin (n=disp@c-71-236-250-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:33.05 | *** join/#debian NagyZ (i=NagyZ_@wreck.elte.hu) |
| 17:33.07 | NagyZ | hello ppl |
| 17:33.14 | NagyZ | back from the meeting. :-) |
| 17:33.45 | Yamaraj | jelly-home: Z60m should be little less problematic, as it uses both SATA interface and drive. No idea why they did this cross breeding of SATA-PATA in R52 and T43. |
| 17:33.55 | *** join/#debian Led_Zeppelin (n=knoppix@cpe-71-72-86-252.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 17:34.36 | *** join/#debian unreal (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 17:34.49 | grendelson | How do I know what mailbox format I am using (what is default in debian testing i dont think I changed it?) mutt open my mail fine but I dont know if the format is mbox or maildir or mh etc.. |
| 17:35.01 | jelly-home | Yahovah: I'd understand it for R52 as it's supposed to be a budget machine, but not for a T series one. |
| 17:35.07 | jelly-home | er |
| 17:35.14 | jelly-home | Yamaraj: ^^ |
| 17:35.16 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:35.23 | Led_Zeppelin | For distros like Knoppix and Ubuntu, how do they detect my video card, and automatically configure it? Is there a tool like that for Debian? |
| 17:36.32 | Yamaraj | jelly-home: This is a high-end R52 (ironic!), and the hardware is 95% same as a similarly configured T43. Both even use the same BIOS. |
| 17:36.40 | cydork | Led_Zeppelin: you can try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
| 17:36.41 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, ask the guys in CentOS about it... there was someone also some time ago with this problem |
| 17:36.58 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@202.246.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 17:36.59 | Led_Zeppelin | cydork, would that do an automatic configurationg? |
| 17:37.22 | Led_Zeppelin | cydork, currently, I am having a lot of issues with X and etch. Therefore I am going back and forth with Knoppix + Ubuntu, but I want to stick with Etch |
| 17:37.27 | cydork | Led_Zeppelin: it will try to :) |
| 17:37.30 | bbelt16ag | hey whats the difference between mysql-server and mysql-server-4.1 ? |
| 17:37.34 | bbelt16ag | just a different version? |
| 17:37.49 | ibmobile | hmm, I think perhaps libarchive-tar-perl was manually installed from cpan using the dh interface. How can I confirm this? |
| 17:37.52 | Led_Zeppelin | cydork, i can try that... |
| 17:37.55 | MatBoy | Led_Zeppelin, it also didn;t work that well after configuring X the first time ? |
| 17:38.02 | Led_Zeppelin | MatBoy, no |
| 17:38.06 | ibmobile | ie, How can I tell where an installed package came from? |
| 17:38.07 | Led_Zeppelin | MatBoy, it did not. |
| 17:38.10 | MatBoy | Led_Zeppelin, that is strange |
| 17:38.22 | abrotman | ibmobile: apt-cache policy |
| 17:38.22 | *** join/#debian khaije___ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:38.28 | MatBoy | Led_Zeppelin, what kind of card did you use ? |
| 17:38.32 | Led_Zeppelin | MatBoy, I want to remove all my X configuiration and do everything over. I really like sarge + debian. I don't wwant to try anythiung new |
| 17:38.38 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: Good idea! Since Fedora has the same problem, CentOS cannot be any different. |
| 17:38.39 | Led_Zeppelin | MatBoy, ATI |
| 17:38.42 | abrotman | ibmobile: you might want to use debsums |
| 17:38.48 | bbelt16ag | is there major differences between 4.1 and 4.0 that would make an app incompatible with 4.x and not with 3.x? |
| 17:38.55 | grendelson | If Ihave one text file in /var/mail/me then taht is mbox format right ? trying to setup mail notification :-) |
| 17:38.58 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: purge xserver-xfree86 if you want to start over |
| 17:39.00 | *** join/#debian MoDaX (n=nth@2002:54f0:1683:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 17:39.00 | Led_Zeppelin | ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 17:39.07 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: you're not editing by hand are you ? |
| 17:39.10 | Led_Zeppelin | ok, i will be back in couple of mins |
| 17:39.13 | *** join/#debian dutche- (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) |
| 17:39.16 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, yah, I was |
| 17:39.21 | Led_Zeppelin | brb in 2 mins |
| 17:39.22 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 17:39.22 | dpkg | If you edit your X conffile, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. See <Xorgmd5> if you are running <Xorg> |
| 17:39.38 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, keep that thought, brb |
| 17:39.47 | MatBoy | Led_Zeppelin, should work. It must work on Etch for sure. What you can try is to install all after each other to test it. I had it moths ago that my SATA-controller on a Intelbord only worked on Etch and not on Sarge and also not on different Distro's |
| 17:40.00 | MatBoy | Led_Zeppelin, sometimes it;s a little bit testing and playing |
| 17:40.17 | abrotman | and it still wouldn't work on sarge |
| 17:40.29 | *** join/#debian bier_ (n=bier@pD954F0C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:40.41 | *** join/#debian PDani__ (n=pdani@152.66.213.121) |
| 17:40.44 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, indeed, that was what I thought too... good guys there ! you can also try the Redhat channel, or have you done that already ? |
| 17:40.44 | Yamaraj | Should I try compiling a custom kernel? |
| 17:41.12 | cydork | Yamaraj: i dont think that will help |
| 17:41.26 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, with what kind of extra settings ? |
| 17:41.47 | jelly-home | Yamaraj: you could just download a newer one if you don't want to compile. |
| 17:41.56 | Yamaraj | I'll compile ata_piix (Intel) into the kernel. |
| 17:42.00 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:42.23 | abrotman | jelly-home: apparently the x86 .18 isn't in sid yet |
| 17:42.52 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, that is not enabled in the 2.6.17 that you know of ? I have to check it for you |
| 17:42.52 | *** join/#debian Led_Zeppelin (n=dummy@cpe-71-72-86-252.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 17:42.52 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: back |
| 17:42.59 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: how was vegas? |
| 17:43.04 | ibmobile | abrotman: debsums? |
| 17:43.06 | qbit_wrk | led zeppelin! |
| 17:43.16 | ibmobile | abrotman: thanks, That worked |
| 17:43.20 | Depeche_Mode | yeah! |
| 17:43.26 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: crazy |
| 17:43.37 | *** part/#debian soniku (n=areeves@ip72-196-242-103.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 17:43.37 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: It's not compiled in the kernel I think. But I could be wrong. |
| 17:43.41 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: what was the customized stanza again? |
| 17:43.51 | qbit_wrk | yeah |
| 17:43.52 | Yamaraj | One solution would be disabling IDE system altogether. |
| 17:43.54 | ibmobile | I was going to report a bug and noticed my email came up as the maintainer for libarchive-tar-perl which I thought was odd |
| 17:44.03 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, I'm checking :) |
| 17:44.09 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: Thanks! |
| 17:44.14 | abrotman | !tell Led_Zeppelin about xmd5 |
| 17:44.26 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, CONFIG_SCSI_ATA_PIIX=m |
| 17:44.28 | ibmobile | It also explains why libarchive-tar-perl was listed as a package being held back |
| 17:44.33 | abrotman | ibmobile: you're not the maintainer? |
| 17:44.39 | ibmobile | lol |
| 17:44.41 | ibmobile | no |
| 17:44.43 | garo | Can i install etch from knoppix ? |
| 17:44.50 | abrotman | no |
| 17:44.52 | cydork | garo: nope |
| 17:44.58 | ibmobile | but I installed some perl modules using the db helpper |
| 17:45.01 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 17:45.01 | dpkg | i guess debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 17:45.07 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:45.16 | Yamaraj | Hmm. |
| 17:45.28 | jelly-home | knoppix being a based-on distro might have debootstrap already. |
| 17:45.28 | *** join/#debian serfurj (n=user@cpe-67-11-222-152.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 17:45.28 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=lordlame@p548EED81.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:45.34 | ibmobile | at anyrate, this isn't a deb bug, except maybe a deb helper bug |
| 17:45.50 | ibmobile | but then how is it to know? |
| 17:45.50 | garo | abrotman: i tried debootstrap but i don't have /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/etch on knoppix |
| 17:45.50 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (i=shadowca@c80-217-204-134.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 17:45.54 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, what kernel are you running on now ? |
| 17:46.13 | ibmobile | at any rate, everything is working great. thanks to everyone for the help. |
| 17:46.13 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: I am using xorg not xfree86 |
| 17:46.13 | Yamaraj | 2.6.17-2 installs as default. |
| 17:46.41 | *** join/#debian heh_v_water (n=heh_v_wa@71-210-59-80.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 17:46.59 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 17:47.03 | abrotman | !tell Led_Zeppelin about xorgmd5 |
| 17:47.10 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, ow that is new :) I was having 2.6.16 seom days ago |
| 17:47.16 | abrotman | garo: then use the etch installer |
| 17:47.21 | *** join/#debian markit (n=konversa@host119-245-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:47.26 | heh_v_water | I'm using etch and it is getting slammed with evbug stuff in the syslog, how do i stop this or what is causing this? |
| 17:47.31 | serfurj | i accidentally printed (to a paper printer) a lot of text from the console. how could this have happened? |
| 17:47.37 | Yamaraj | MatBoy: This is spanking new. I'm using 20060925 builds. |
| 17:47.43 | ibmobile | hmm, I was going to install irssi, but it seems to have a broken package. is this a known issue? |
| 17:47.55 | jelly-home | garo: if you wish to try, put it in the right place for debootstrap: http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/etch |
| 17:47.55 | abrotman | ibmobile: bts says ? |
| 17:48.01 | markit | Hi, I'm trying to remove old kernels from a sid instalation (apt-get --purge remove xxxx), but I keep getting the dpkg error 128... any solution? |
| 17:48.18 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (n=inimesek@217-159-146-242-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 17:48.21 | MatBoy | Yamaraj, don't know what I was using when installing |
| 17:48.21 | jelly-home | garo: that's from etch debootstrap 0.3.3 |
| 17:48.43 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:48.44 | *** join/#debian Suprano (n=anonym00@Oc318.o.pppool.de) |
| 17:48.51 | Yamaraj | Debian etch should work okay with vanilla kernels I hope. |
| 17:49.01 | jelly-home | Yamaraj: it does. |
| 17:49.30 | Led_Zeppelin | Mouse0: cannot open input device, (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Mouse0", No core pointer |
| 17:49.36 | Led_Zeppelin | thats whats failing everthing! |
| 17:49.39 | Led_Zeppelin | any clue on this? |
| 17:49.48 | Yamaraj | 2.6.18 - Here I come. |
| 17:49.49 | ibmobile | hmm, don't see anything explaining the error I have |
| 17:49.54 | ibmobile | I'll have to play with it again later |
| 17:50.05 | ibmobile | have to run to pick up kid from school |
| 17:50.08 | ibmobile | thanks again |
| 17:50.16 | heh_v_water | Led_Zeppelin, this means your mouse is configured wrong fro your x server |
| 17:50.16 | *** join/#debian i3d (i=i3dmaste@nat/ibm/x-7e177dae0bcb8025) |
| 17:50.31 | Led_Zeppelin | heh_v_water: how do I fix that? |
| 17:50.51 | heh_v_water | Led_Zeppelin, change the mouse settings in the x server config file |
| 17:50.59 | heh_v_water | no wait |
| 17:51.09 | heh_v_water | cant do that it will screw the md5 |
| 17:51.13 | Led_Zeppelin | its not recommended that I edit that file manually |
| 17:51.16 | Led_Zeppelin | hhe yah |
| 17:51.18 | Led_Zeppelin | :-) |
| 17:51.18 | *** part/#debian Yamaraj (n=admin@59.94.43.18) |
| 17:51.19 | heh_v_water | are you using xorg or xfree86? |
| 17:51.24 | Led_Zeppelin | xorg |
| 17:51.31 | Led_Zeppelin | xfree86 is old :-) |
| 17:51.35 | heh_v_water | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i believe |
| 17:51.43 | Led_Zeppelin | i did |
| 17:51.44 | Led_Zeppelin | still no luck |
| 17:51.48 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:52.13 | heh_v_water | then change it until you get it or figure out what type of mouse it is, maybe you need to enable a kernel module but i doubt it |
| 17:52.32 | Led_Zeppelin | well, gpm mouse is working perfectly |
| 17:52.36 | Led_Zeppelin | its a USB mouse too |
| 17:52.37 | *** join/#debian lorth (i=lorth@dslb-082-083-120-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:52.42 | *** part/#debian lorth (i=lorth@dslb-082-083-120-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:53.05 | *** join/#debian Braindead (n=braindea@81-208-60-194.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:53.30 | abrotman | if you're using gpm .. it's probably /dev/gpmdata instead of /dev/input/mice |
| 17:53.33 | *** join/#debian ian_ (n=ian@c-24-22-67-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 17:54.25 | heh_v_water | abrotman, is the only fix for evbug loging to syslog to rename or remove? |
| 17:54.38 | heh_v_water | using etch 2.6.16 kernel |
| 17:54.49 | abrotman | for the whowhat ? |
| 17:54.53 | abrotman | evolution ? |
| 17:55.09 | abrotman | why does heh_v_water sound familiar? |
| 17:55.15 | abrotman | heh_v_water: did you used to have aonther nick ? |
| 17:55.22 | heh_v_water | I hang in here quite a bit i just moved is all |
| 17:55.38 | heh_v_water | yah i go by a few nicks in here dtech and this mostly |
| 17:55.42 | NagyZ | abrotman now |
| 17:55.47 | NagyZ | I've started the installation over PXE |
| 17:55.51 | NagyZ | and found that fucking error :) |
| 17:55.58 | abrotman | oh .. is it naked? |
| 17:56.03 | heh_v_water | lol |
| 17:56.17 | NagyZ | abrotman sadly no. :( |
| 17:56.21 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:56.33 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=madclick@216.123.169.252) |
| 17:56.46 | Shadowcat | ... |
| 17:56.50 | *** join/#debian insertrandomhith (n=dsl@83.70.29.222) |
| 17:56.53 | Shadowcat | abrotman == sicko |
| 17:57.03 | abrotman | duh |
| 17:57.12 | *** part/#debian noqman (n=noqman@129.71.218.25) |
| 17:57.21 | heh_v_water | abrotman, ever since I put in the 2.6.16 kernel i have been getting my hard drive filles with evbug logging, i read on the bts somebody sayign to delete or rename evbug so it doesnt load on boot. I did that and it's fine but is that really a fix? |
| 17:57.26 | *** join/#debian Elive_user69 (n=Elive_us@9.105-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 17:57.27 | heh_v_water | filles=filled |
| 17:57.32 | abrotman | heh_v_water: no .. it's a workaround |
| 17:57.53 | heh_v_water | abrotmant, roger that I'll just wait for the fix to occur |
| 17:58.02 | heh_v_water | grr |
| 17:58.27 | beardy | Roger Abrotmant, the infamous fixer! |
| 17:58.33 | heh_v_water | lol beardy |
| 17:58.41 | insertrandomhith | how can i get the latest debian netinst.iso to load usbnet.o for my Linksys USB200M? |
| 17:58.46 | heh_v_water | I need to us enick completion more often |
| 17:58.51 | *** part/#debian linuxboyfriend (n=usama@203.101.182.210) |
| 17:58.59 | insertrandomhith | link:http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ |
| 18:00.01 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:00.04 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@p54958BC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:00.46 | *** join/#debian debianito (n=x@48.Red-81-34-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:00.47 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: fixed that mouse problem! |
| 18:00.53 | abrotman | now what? |
| 18:01.00 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: now, it seems to be an xfs issue. Any advice from dpkg for that? |
| 18:01.07 | abrotman | install xfs ? |
| 18:01.11 | abrotman | and xfonts-base |
| 18:01.20 | Led_Zeppelin | i have the Xfont server installed and running |
| 18:01.52 | jelly-home | whoa, does anyone use x font server these days? |
| 18:02.11 | jelly-home | remote X terminals? |
| 18:02.16 | NagyZ | abrotman just a sec and I'll get you the error message |
| 18:02.20 | NagyZ | no, google wont help ;[ |
| 18:02.27 | Led_Zeppelin | FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. |
| 18:03.04 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:03.04 | *** join/#debian khaije__ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:03.22 | abrotman | argh .. |
| 18:03.45 | abrotman | guess he's not banned anymore |
| 18:03.59 | *** join/#debian o[-_-]o (n=rule@ppp-4-110.glou-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com) |
| 18:04.37 | Led_Zeppelin | how come I can't select my monitor resolution in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 18:04.38 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 684] by debhelper |
| 18:05.36 | blondie | Led_Zeppelin: because that thing is broken |
| 18:05.36 | *** join/#debian arrowes (n=jordi@144.pool85-52-227.static.uni2.es) |
| 18:05.37 | *** join/#debian raz0 (i=raz0@0x535de8ec.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 18:05.40 | *** join/#debian derek[] (n=derek@203.145.159.44) |
| 18:05.50 | Led_Zeppelin | blondie: oh! didn't know that |
| 18:05.50 | abrotman | NagyZ: over here!!! |
| 18:05.56 | *** join/#debian nite613_ (n=chris@i216-58-80-207.cybersurf.com) |
| 18:05.58 | Led_Zeppelin | so, what is better to use xfree86 or xorg ? |
| 18:06.05 | abrotman | depends |
| 18:06.24 | blondie | well.... xorg is The Proper X |
| 18:06.30 | NagyZ | abrotman k |
| 18:06.32 | NagyZ | so |
| 18:06.35 | NagyZ | Setting up udev (0.100-1) |
| 18:06.36 | *** join/#debian livingtm (n=Tim@rrcs-24-97-168-213.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:06.40 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:06.51 | *** join/#debian tlivingston (n=Tim@rrcs-24-97-168-213.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:06.54 | NagyZ | /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules exists, persistent interface names not saved. |
| 18:07.02 | NagyZ | Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing. |
| 18:07.07 | NagyZ | error initializing udevd socket |
| 18:07.12 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: depends on what? |
| 18:07.13 | NagyZ | Cannot start udevd. (rc=2) |
| 18:07.20 | NagyZ | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure) |
| 18:07.21 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: needs .. desires .. |
| 18:07.27 | *** join/#debian asdf_ (n=asdf@9.105-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:07.28 | NagyZ | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 |
| 18:07.29 | abrotman | NagyZ: ok .. that's bad |
| 18:07.37 | NagyZ | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools: |
| 18:07.43 | CAiRO | what's wrong when i get "/lib/tls/librt.so.1: undefined reference to `__pthread_unwind@GLIBC_PRIVATE'" when compiling a program? |
| 18:07.50 | NagyZ | initramfs-tools depends on udev (>=0.086-1); however: Package udev is not configured yet. |
| 18:07.54 | NagyZ | and so, fails the installation. |
| 18:07.55 | abrotman | your version of librt.so.1 is not right probably |
| 18:08.07 | NagyZ | remember: I've booted from PXE, grabbed everything over network. |
| 18:08.08 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: lol, I just want to get my X to work !! :-) |
| 18:08.09 | abrotman | NagyZ: this is the part where you ask #debian-boot about it .. |
| 18:08.10 | *** part/#debian dpro (n=x@195.176.254.254) |
| 18:08.16 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: so make it work ... what's wrong now ? |
| 18:08.27 | *** join/#debian janbatisuto (n=janbatis@ARouen-252-1-133-153.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:08.31 | NagyZ | heh.. |
| 18:08.31 | NagyZ | ;[ |
| 18:08.49 | abrotman | NagyZ: udev shouldn't be dying like that |
| 18:09.10 | NagyZ | I guessed as much |
| 18:09.17 | *** join/#debian fresch (n=Fresch@p57A5E158.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:09.47 | *** join/#debian khaije (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:09.54 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: lol, easy for you to say. No X, no google :-( |
| 18:10.13 | abrotman | links! |
| 18:10.19 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: what's the error ? |
| 18:10.29 | abrotman | NagyZ: yeah .. have you checked the bts ? |
| 18:10.31 | Led_Zeppelin | cannot connect to X server :0 |
| 18:10.36 | abrotman | !patser |
| 18:10.39 | abrotman | !paster |
| 18:10.39 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 18:10.56 | grendelson | lynx is console googling love (also look up screen makes multi tasking console feel GUI)! |
| 18:11.18 | shwag | how do I do a COMPLETE removal...including deps. |
| 18:11.37 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: Use lynx, links, w3c, links2, and so on. You don't _need_ X for anything. |
| 18:11.41 | shwag | or how do I remove unused dependencies. |
| 18:12.14 | Led_Zeppelin | beardy: is there a svga version of links? |
| 18:12.22 | abrotman | links2 -g iirc |
| 18:12.29 | abrotman | !tell shwag about deborphan |
| 18:12.31 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: I don't think so, but not sure. |
| 18:12.57 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: LOL! that worked! awesome! |
| 18:12.58 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: There is framebuffer graphical support in it though, so you can run it like abrotman said. |
| 18:13.23 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:14.01 | markit | mmm maybe is a grub problem in the debian uninstall script, sigh |
| 18:14.10 | Led_Zeppelin | hmm |
| 18:14.11 | Led_Zeppelin | still no X |
| 18:14.34 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: What is the problem? |
| 18:14.35 | Led_Zeppelin | just wondering if there is a tool like Knoppix that will autodetct |
| 18:15.20 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: paste the freaking log |
| 18:15.30 | *** join/#debian gmph (n=asingh@59.94.103.58) |
| 18:15.31 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:15.34 | *** join/#debian asdf_ (n=asdf@9.105-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:15.36 | grendelson | Gaah if you want Knoppix use knoppix! Just recofigure X and followo prompts nad when you run startx paste output to paster and then everyone can see error! |
| 18:15.51 | shwag | abrotman: deborphan isnt giving any output |
| 18:15.59 | Led_Zeppelin | beardy: trying to configure X, and its not working. I think I need to configure my monitor. Not sure how to do that |
| 18:16.27 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: Choose easy. |
| 18:16.28 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:16.42 | beardy | Led_Zeppelin: Or "simple" or what it's called. |
| 18:17.00 | beardy | I hope you know this; |
| 18:17.03 | beardy | !drxx Led_Zeppelin |
| 18:17.03 | dpkg | Led_Zeppelin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:17.29 | Led_Zeppelin | X -config /root/xorg.conf.new |
| 18:17.31 | Led_Zeppelin | works |
| 18:17.35 | Led_Zeppelin | but, nothing there |
| 18:17.42 | beardy | No. Do as I said. |
| 18:17.50 | Led_Zeppelin | however, if I move /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it does not work |
| 18:17.52 | abrotman | shwag: deborphan -a |
| 18:17.56 | abrotman | shwag: BE CAREFUL |
| 18:18.00 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: /msg dpkg xorgmd5 |
| 18:18.08 | abrotman | shwag: deborphan ca do a lot of damage if you don't pay attention |
| 18:18.20 | Led_Zeppelin | beardy: it does not give me the option to choose easy |
| 18:18.28 | *** join/#debian joeyjones (n=jjlaptop@S010600032f3925db.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 18:18.56 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Enlighte@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 18:19.02 | shwag | abrotman: yah..some of this stuff is not deps at all...just normal packages. wonder why it shows those. |
| 18:19.20 | *** join/#debian slacktyro (n=nobody@copacabana.nitnet.com.br) |
| 18:19.25 | abrotman | shwag: because nothing depends on them |
| 18:20.03 | shwag | abrotman: oh...i gotta work up the tree backwards. |
| 18:20.41 | bbelt16ag | sigh |
| 18:21.10 | Led_Zeppelin | worked! |
| 18:21.13 | Led_Zeppelin | I know what the problem was! |
| 18:21.18 | Led_Zeppelin | my .xinitrc was there! |
| 18:21.26 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:21.27 | Led_Zeppelin | 3 days of work! :-) |
| 18:21.35 | beardy | .. |
| 18:21.44 | slacktyro | hi all, i installed the debian some day ago, the alsa is not detecting my sound card |
| 18:21.51 | beardy | !debian way |
| 18:21.56 | abrotman | !tell thanatermesis about away |
| 18:22.06 | *** join/#debian CyberMad_sleep (n=cybermad@202.73.117.106) |
| 18:22.11 | beardy | it quat |
| 18:22.12 | abrotman | !tell slacktyro about alsa one-liner |
| 18:22.16 | abrotman | !tell slacktyro about alsa-checklist |
| 18:22.54 | *** join/#debian thegraham (n=thomas@host81-153-15-232.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:22.57 | *** join/#debian beered (n=beered@63-229-180-74.tcsn.qwest.net) |
| 18:22.59 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Enlighte@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 18:23.26 | beardy | !tell Thanatermesis -about away |
| 18:23.41 | thegraham | thegraham |
| 18:24.00 | Thanatermesis | beardy, i have upgraded my system, now finished to configure xchat and just disabled it ;) |
| 18:24.10 | *** join/#debian biocoded (n=biocoded@fsgit02.santa-marina.com.br) |
| 18:24.22 | Led_Zeppelin | okay, my question is, how do I change my X resolution? |
| 18:24.25 | *** part/#debian biocoded (n=biocoded@fsgit02.santa-marina.com.br) |
| 18:24.36 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:24.51 | thegraham | oops, sorry... hi I've got php4-imap installed (along with apache-ssl (and php, obviously), but it doesn't appear in phpinfo(). Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
| 18:24.54 | abrotman | xrandr! |
| 18:24.58 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: it does not give me an option to change my monitor settings there |
| 18:25.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 690] by debhelper |
| 18:25.06 | abrotman | thegraham: make sure it got enabled in the right php.ini |
| 18:25.07 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: only my vid card |
| 18:25.22 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, maybe you have your debconf set to "low" ? dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 18:25.24 | jetx | yeah that's a bug in drxx lately |
| 18:25.25 | *** join/#debian peterrus (n=peterrus@cable-194-171.zeelandnet.nl) |
| 18:25.31 | jetx | iirc |
| 18:25.34 | jetx | imo |
| 18:25.36 | jetx | whatever |
| 18:26.36 | slacktyro | abrotman: thank you for the help, but the problem is that the card is not being detected by alsaconf |
| 18:26.38 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: let me try that |
| 18:26.45 | *** join/#debian khaije_ (n=khaije1@dsl093-056-093.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:26.46 | abrotman | slacktyro: are the OSS modules loaded ? |
| 18:26.51 | abrotman | slacktyro: is it ISA ? |
| 18:27.01 | *** join/#debian opensores (n=OS@client-82-19-19-61.mant.adsl.ntlworld.com) |
| 18:27.34 | slacktyro | abrotman: don't know |
| 18:27.38 | *** join/#debian Lion-O (n=peter@82-35-19-35.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:27.57 | peterrus | ello |
| 18:28.28 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: good idea, but still does not prompt me |
| 18:28.32 | *** join/#debian NineTails (n=ninetail@user-54414679.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 18:28.33 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: does it prompt you for your monitor? |
| 18:28.41 | thegraham | Or perhaps put it a different way, how do I add things to php4 using packages? I need imap support in php. |
| 18:28.42 | peterrus | i want to convert some oggs to mp3 in soundjuicer but it doesnt seem to have mp3 support, i need to install the gstreamer-lame package, which i cant find, how can i fix this so that i can convert to mp3? i have lame installed |
| 18:28.51 | *** join/#debian Trixsey (n=secret@c-2b9072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:29.18 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, im not sure.. a lot of time of i don't reconfigure my graphical conf, but i remember to yes |
| 18:29.37 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, you have set "high" on the debconf ? |
| 18:29.55 | Led_Zeppelin | no, to "low" |
| 18:30.05 | simonrvn | thegraham: abrotman just told you |
| 18:30.40 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, aha, try with the HIGH |
| 18:30.47 | abrotman | simonrvn: why are you blaming me?!!? |
| 18:30.48 | gmph | led: you can also enter resolution of your monitor directly in xorg.conf file |
| 18:30.53 | abrotman | slacktyro: lspci .. see your card ? |
| 18:30.53 | Led_Zeppelin | Thanatermesis: heh, just did. still nothing |
| 18:31.03 | Led_Zeppelin | would a Knoppix x.org file work in Debian? |
| 18:31.16 | *** join/#debian Blissex (n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 18:31.19 | Led_Zeppelin | xorg.conf file from Knoppix in Debian |
| 18:31.32 | peterrus | someone? |
| 18:31.35 | simonrvn | abrotman: heh |
| 18:31.36 | *** join/#debian chicken_Fire (n=chicken_@p213.54.140.134.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 18:31.41 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: yes |
| 18:31.52 | simonrvn | someone isn't here, they left before you got here |
| 18:32.01 | peterrus | ha ha ... |
| 18:32.05 | peterrus | xD |
| 18:32.07 | Thanatermesis | Led_Zeppelin, yes, it works, but you can also edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually... the problem is to im not sure what happens if you made it, then next time to you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:32.09 | thegraham | abrotman: okay, how to I ensure it is enabled in the correct php.ini (i've never done that before when compiling php directly) |
| 18:32.09 | Led_Zeppelin | i miss the days of woody, where x was much easier to configure! now its just too crazy |
| 18:32.16 | abrotman | thegraham: apache1 or 2 ? |
| 18:32.21 | *** join/#debian MtJB (n=warthawg@cpe-66-68-176-215.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:32.25 | *** join/#debian g0dspeed (n=sjerf@cp113941-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 18:32.27 | simonrvn | peterrus: from ogg to mp3 isn't a hot idea, you'll lose a lot of quality |
| 18:32.29 | thegraham | apache1 (apache-ssl package) |
| 18:32.32 | Thanatermesis | aparently don't write more the changes, or you need to make a step for work again, not sure... debian developers are working on this stuff |
| 18:32.34 | simonrvn | peterrus: vice versa too |
| 18:32.39 | peterrus | simonrvn, i know, but a friend of mine needs it |
| 18:32.48 | slacktyro | abrotman: no |
| 18:32.59 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: its easier these dayss. in fact in many situations xorg with startup with no config at all. now you can usually leave off modelines and refresh rates |
| 18:33.00 | abrotman | slacktyro: can you paste the contents of lspci somewhere ? |
| 18:33.01 | abrotman | !paster |
| 18:33.02 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 18:33.02 | simonrvn | dpkg has a factoid for it. sec, getting something |
| 18:33.02 | MtJB | is there any way to get arcobat-7.0.8 to print in debian, and if not, what should i use to print pdfs? |
| 18:33.04 | *** join/#debian ft (n=hawk@212.117.85.153) |
| 18:33.06 | beardy | It's not sarge's fault, it's yours for being sick with the sns syndrome and are probably running xorg. |
| 18:33.11 | *** part/#debian arrowes (n=jordi@144.pool85-52-227.static.uni2.es) |
| 18:33.13 | slacktyro | !paster |
| 18:33.13 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 18:33.14 | peterrus | i know about the loss, on slackware it worked fine, but not in debian because of legal resons and stuff, but thats mine responiobiliti |
| 18:33.17 | thegraham | abrotman: apache1 (apache-ssl package) |
| 18:33.41 | abrotman | thegraham: look in /etc/php4/ .. find the correct directory .. |
| 18:33.42 | slacktyro | abrotman: yep |
| 18:33.43 | *** join/#debian mk3y (n=mkey@pD9E35793.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:33.53 | abrotman | slacktyro: ok .. paste it .. then let me know you've pasted it |
| 18:33.59 | Led_Zeppelin | stew: easier these days? hmm, I think not |
| 18:34.19 | simonrvn | peterrus: you'll need non-free IIRC |
| 18:34.20 | thegraham | abrotman: /etc/php4/apache/php.ini is the file, but surely it either *has* or doesn't have imap support? I can't see any mention of it |
| 18:34.33 | peterrus | simonrvn, i have, but it isnt there |
| 18:34.47 | *** join/#debian nlight (n=nlight@85.187.188.171) |
| 18:35.02 | MtJB | is there any way to get arcobat-7.0.8 to print in debian, and if not, what should i use to print pdfs? |
| 18:35.02 | abrotman | thegraham: grep imap /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 18:35.06 | *** part/#debian markit (n=konversa@host119-245-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:35.08 | simonrvn | peterrus: no not non-free, but in marillat |
| 18:35.23 | simonrvn | peterrus: http://www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 18:35.25 | peterrus | simonrvn, i know, but i cant find marillat |
| 18:35.27 | peterrus | ok |
| 18:35.31 | thegraham | abrotman: there is nothing found |
| 18:35.38 | simonrvn | !marillat |
| 18:35.38 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 18:35.48 | simonrvn | peterrus: ^^ :) |
| 18:36.06 | *** join/#debian wols (n=klingens@p549DD23F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:36.14 | simonrvn | it has gstreamer0.10-lame there |
| 18:36.14 | slacktyro | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3873 |
| 18:36.43 | peterrus | w00t |
| 18:36.46 | MtJB | wols: can you print pdf files? if so, how? |
| 18:36.48 | simonrvn | @kill 7-11 for playing politics |
| 18:37.00 | abrotman | slacktyro: run update-pciids .. try again .. paste the results again |
| 18:37.21 | abrotman | though .. since i see the ISA bridge .. oculd be bad |
| 18:39.50 | slacktyro | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3874 |
| 18:40.05 | peterrus | simonrvn, uhm, not really working :/ |
| 18:40.17 | peterrus | oh wait |
| 18:40.26 | abrotman | slacktyro: 0000:02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10) whatever that is |
| 18:40.32 | abrotman | slacktyro: paste also .. lspci -n |
| 18:40.39 | abrotman | !which driver |
| 18:40.39 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 18:40.47 | *** join/#debian bier_ (n=bier@pD954F0C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:40.53 | *** part/#debian gmph (n=asingh@59.94.103.58) |
| 18:40.53 | *** join/#debian wwallace (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:40.58 | *** join/#debian creature (n=creature@unaffiliated/creature) |
| 18:41.18 | thegraham | abrotman: okay, heres the problem - the php4-imap extension doesn't automagically update the file. You need to add extension = imap.so to the end of the php.ini file. Thanks for the help. |
| 18:41.25 | creature | Hello, happy Debian users. Is there a way I can use dpkg or apt-get to say "If I tried to install this package, would it install or would it complain about dependencies?" |
| 18:41.44 | abrotman | thegraham: that's the thing .. it's supposed to |
| 18:41.54 | peterrus | its comming! |
| 18:41.59 | abrotman | creature: man is your friend |
| 18:42.03 | nvz | creature: apt-get install package |
| 18:42.17 | slacktyro | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3875 |
| 18:42.18 | nvz | creature: if it has dependencies it will show them and ask for a confirmation |
| 18:42.22 | thegraham | abrotman: well anyways, thanks. |
| 18:42.23 | creature | nvz: It wouldn't be an apt package, it would be something I downloaded separately. |
| 18:42.44 | creature | Basically, libgnomeui has a bug I'm hitting in unstable, which I understand is fixed in testing. |
| 18:42.50 | peterrus | simonrvn, ark! still nothing |
| 18:42.58 | creature | And rather than wait I was hoping I could install just that package. |
| 18:43.00 | peterrus | the mp3 checkbox stays gray |
| 18:43.06 | abrotman | slacktyro: 11063288YesVIA Technologies, Inc.VIA High Definition Audio Controllersnd-hda-intel |
| 18:43.07 | simonrvn | peterrus: sec, i'll give you the whole deb line |
| 18:43.12 | abrotman | slacktyro: last one is the driver you need |
| 18:43.13 | peterrus | ok |
| 18:43.21 | abrotman | slacktyro: or ask #alsa if they know more |
| 18:43.25 | *** join/#debian RazaMetaL (n=razameta@srv.eth0.www.manta.telconet.net) |
| 18:43.25 | peterrus | i installed the gstreamer-lame |
| 18:43.26 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:43.39 | abrotman | probably liblame isn't installed |
| 18:43.42 | slacktyro | abrotman: thank you |
| 18:43.43 | simonrvn | oh ok, then you have it. |
| 18:43.43 | *** join/#debian lightyear (n=lightyea@p54876C3C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:43.53 | *** join/#debian futex (n=futex@ADijon-256-1-31-227.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:43.54 | slacktyro | abrotman: where can i get this file? |
| 18:44.24 | abrotman | slacktyro: it's a driver .. modprobe snd-hda-intel |
| 18:44.27 | simonrvn | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org {sid,etch} main |
| 18:44.39 | wols | MtJB: I currently don't have a printer. but you will need a postscript printing queue |
| 18:44.45 | peterrus | itch woerking! |
| 18:44.48 | *** join/#debian wols (n=klingens@p549DD23F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:44.59 | peterrus | !cheer simonrv |
| 18:45.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 682] by debhelper |
| 18:45.06 | peterrus | fut |
| 18:45.06 | simonrvn | np |
| 18:45.11 | slacktyro | abrotman: module not found |
| 18:45.12 | peterrus | what was the command xD ? |
| 18:45.18 | *** join/#debian magnet (n=magnet@palantir.mithrandir.net) |
| 18:45.18 | abrotman | slacktyro: uname -a |
| 18:45.22 | MtJB | wols: thank you, sir |
| 18:45.43 | simonrvn | /lastlog foo will find you things in the channel that were said |
| 18:45.43 | peterrus | what was the darn cheer command? |
| 18:45.47 | slacktyro | abrotman: Linux 1304 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:45.59 | simonrvn | cheers i think |
| 18:46.05 | abrotman | slacktyro: uhm .. how new is this machine ? |
| 18:46.07 | peterrus | !cheers simonrv |
| 18:46.10 | peterrus | argh |
| 18:46.13 | peterrus | what a failure |
| 18:46.16 | wols | MtJB: what for? |
| 18:46.23 | *** part/#debian journalz (i=ircd_zon@mother.fuckers.cl) |
| 18:46.31 | abrotman | !tell slacktyro about sarge 2.6.16 |
| 18:46.31 | slacktyro | abrotman: i installed the debian less than one week ago |
| 18:46.44 | MtJB | wols: the answer on printing pdfs (postscript queue) |
| 18:46.46 | simonrvn | doesn't matter, thanks |
| 18:46.50 | peterrus | hehe |
| 18:46.53 | peterrus | i wanna know it |
| 18:47.01 | peterrus | it makes look newb |
| 18:47.06 | wols | MtJB: look into ghostscript |
| 18:47.13 | MtJB | check |
| 18:47.32 | yggdrasi1 | hi guys |
| 18:48.34 | jade | for 5 x 36 GB harddrives configured in RAID 5, is the total space 36 GB? |
| 18:48.46 | wols | jade: 4x36 |
| 18:48.52 | yggdrasi1 | i just did a fresh install of debian and i cant seem to lspci .. any suggestions |
| 18:48.55 | blondie | jade: that would be RRAID |
| 18:49.02 | *** join/#debian sharket (n=dunno@0-1pool59-137.nas54.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 18:49.20 | h3sp4wn | jade: depends whether you are having a hot spare or not |
| 18:49.28 | jade | this company says it offers 5 x 36 RAID 5 e.g. http://www.servepath.com/productmatrix/c1.jsp?path=UltraPath&config=custom |
| 18:49.30 | peterrus | w00terdew00tw00t |
| 18:49.35 | simonrvn | !listkeys cheers |
| 18:49.36 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'cheers' by key (3): _default cheers ;; #debian cheers ;; cheers. |
| 18:49.50 | simonrvn | it's a command |
| 18:49.51 | jade | h3sp4wn, ok |
| 18:49.53 | simonrvn | not a* |
| 18:50.02 | Vitux | hmm |
| 18:50.25 | simonrvn | if it had CMD: cheers (.*?) then you could |
| 18:50.37 | wols | yggdrasi1: ever heard of error messages? we like them in this channel |
| 18:50.41 | simonrvn | gtg, bbl |
| 18:51.07 | yggdrasi1 | wols :)-bash: lspci: command not found |
| 18:51.11 | *** part/#debian MtJB (n=warthawg@cpe-66-68-176-215.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:51.15 | wols | !tell yggdrasi1 about search |
| 18:51.21 | wols | pciutils |
| 18:51.22 | Vitux | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 18:51.22 | Vitux | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.22 | Vitux | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.43 | Vitux | I checked dpkg and said just type aptitude install azureus |
| 18:51.44 | *** join/#debian Illarane|Laptop (n=heifer@pdpc/supporter/student/Veratien) |
| 18:51.55 | Vitux | any idea why I cant apt-get java and sdk? |
| 18:52.01 | stew | Vitux: /msg dpkg install java |
| 18:52.04 | wols | !tell Vitux about java |
| 18:52.20 | Vitux | yah |
| 18:53.02 | *** join/#debian caplink811-log (n=caplink8@dslb-088-073-000-098.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:53.58 | Vitux | does the free java package support azureus... |
| 18:54.09 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 18:54.10 | Vitux | that question isn't clearly answered |
| 18:54.18 | *** join/#debian beered (n=beered@63-229-180-74.tcsn.qwest.net) |
| 18:54.27 | Vitux | great so I'll install 15 packages to find out I need to install java anyway.. |
| 18:54.29 | Vitux | thanks |
| 18:55.17 | stew | Vitux: according to those dependencies you flooded before, it should work with any java2-runtime. i'm skeptical however. if it worked with a free java, it should be in debian, which it isn't |
| 18:55.48 | Vitux | thanks :) closest thing I'll get to an answer |
| 18:55.51 | Vitux | I appreciate it |
| 18:56.14 | Vitux | I'll just go download java and save myself the headache built the free java and it didn't work |
| 18:56.27 | stew | Vitux: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:56.39 | Vitux | sarge |
| 18:56.45 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@ecw201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:56.45 | stew | Vitux: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 18:56.54 | Vitux | yah i'm doing that now |
| 18:57.06 | Vitux | already knew about it but wasn't sure if the free java would do the trick |
| 18:57.27 | yggdrasi1 | wols :) -bash: lspci: command not found |
| 18:57.36 | yggdrasi1 | nevermind thank |
| 18:57.38 | yggdrasi1 | s |
| 18:57.43 | Vitux | I hate java anway dunno why I'm bothering :P |
| 18:58.45 | *** join/#debian RvGaTe (n=rvgate-f@g178204.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 18:59.02 | *** join/#debian effraie (n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:59.27 | Hak`M | Can anyone tell me how stable mysql5 is compared to mysql4? Are there still big differences? Or is mysql5 almost as stable as mysql4? |
| 19:00.16 | *** join/#debian grendelson (n=neffer@cpe-24-27-32-71.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 19:00.21 | abrotman | Hak`M: ask #mysql |
| 19:00.47 | Hak`M | Ah okay. Well we will be using debian packages. :P |
| 19:01.08 | yggdrasi1 | i would figure lspci to be in the bas install |
| 19:01.12 | *** join/#debian Suprano_ (n=anonym00@Oaa1e.o.pppool.de) |
| 19:01.20 | grendelson | I'm trying to setup exim4 to route outbound mail to the world and local mail to users mboxes. I have the samrthost working fine sending to gmail but when I type a message i mutt for 'user' it attemtps to go to 'user@localhost.localdomain' and then it ends up in gmail accoutn as an error! |
| 19:01.23 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 19:01.26 | grendelson | echnical details of permanent failure: |
| 19:01.26 | grendelson | PERM_FAILURE: DNS Error: Domain name not found |
| 19:01.37 | stew | Hak`M: in that case your descision has been made for you, there isn't a debian release that has both mysql 4 and mysql 5 packages |
| 19:01.38 | *** part/#debian effraie (n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:01.41 | grendelson | user@localhost.localdomain |
| 19:01.46 | *** join/#debian OleMoudi (n=TK422@137.Red-83-50-225.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:02.06 | stew | Hak`M: if you are going to be using stable, you can use 4.0 or 4.1, for testing/unstable there is only 5.0 |
| 19:02.06 | yggdrasi1 | its strange that i have lsusb but not lspci |
| 19:02.10 | yggdrasi1 | somethings jsut not right |
| 19:02.11 | yggdrasi1 | brb |
| 19:02.13 | yggdrasi1 | bbl |
| 19:02.18 | stew | ? |
| 19:02.44 | Hak`M | ah stew okay. :) |
| 19:02.45 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.82) |
| 19:03.20 | *** join/#debian darkskiez (i=mhb@bb-87-81-62-203.ukonline.co.uk) |
| 19:03.34 | *** join/#debian rorr (n=ror@gra86-1-82-239-90-166.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:03.35 | *** join/#debian famir (n=famir@62.90.29.98) |
| 19:03.42 | *** join/#debian war95 (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 19:04.09 | khermans | What is the structure of a Linux SWAP partition? I want to /dev/zero everything in it, without destroying any structures that are necessary |
| 19:04.11 | *** join/#debian Illarane|Laptop (n=heifer@pdpc/supporter/student/Veratien) |
| 19:04.25 | khermans | this is for backup purposes |
| 19:04.29 | *** join/#debian chicken_Fire (n=chicken_@p213.54.140.134.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 19:04.31 | tarzeau | khermans: zero it first, then run mkswap on it again? |
| 19:04.34 | grendelson | Looking at the header I think I see it - ALL MAIL is being routed to gmail as the smarthost and the MTA exim as appending localhost.localdomain to the user! SO how do I get exim to send 'user' addressed mail to local mboxes but you@theworld.com mail to smarthost? |
| 19:04.55 | khermans | tarzeau, i guess -- heh |
| 19:05.09 | khermans | tarzeau, but is there a more elegant hack!??! |
| 19:05.14 | tarzeau | khermans: this is elegant :) |
| 19:05.26 | *** join/#debian JJ|Laptop (n=jjlaptop@S010600032f3925db.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 19:05.30 | tarzeau | but i can think of more ugly hacks :) |
| 19:05.38 | khermans | tarzeau, oooo i like ugly! |
| 19:05.54 | khermans | tarzeau, i tried to mount it -- but no go |
| 19:06.10 | tarzeau | i hate these: Error: Unable to restore run data (13) |
| 19:06.12 | khermans | tarzeau, i guess mkswap after /dev/zero is best :-) |
| 19:08.00 | *** join/#debian MimiC (n=admin@S0106000fb5a9f7d9.vn.shawcable.net) |
| 19:10.57 | herfer | what is the package name for 'dig' ? |
| 19:11.04 | *** part/#debian MidgetKiller (n=admin@S0106000fb5a9f7d9.vn.shawcable.net) |
| 19:11.10 | herfer | # apt-get install dig |
| 19:11.15 | stew | herfer: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 19:11.15 | herfer | E: Couldn't find package dig |
| 19:11.29 | herfer | ok. |
| 19:11.38 | herfer | I'll check...how odd that the package is not named "dig" |
| 19:12.11 | abrotman | apt-cache search dig |
| 19:12.18 | abrotman | or apt-file search dig |
| 19:13.35 | pickcoder | herfer: it's in dnsutils I think |
| 19:14.10 | herfer | oh yeah |
| 19:15.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 675] by debhelper |
| 19:15.12 | *** join/#debian coldboot (n=neil@bas2-kitchener06-1177883611.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:16.21 | *** join/#debian Sambrista (n=alfonso@186.red-217-216-138.user.auna.net) |
| 19:16.21 | *** join/#debian Bry2k200 (n=yup@S0106001310688e48.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 19:16.32 | *** join/#debian Bertram (n=yohann@ADijon-256-1-143-150.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:16.35 | *** join/#debian pstickne (n=pstickne@c-67-164-32-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:16.43 | *** join/#debian jetx (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 19:16.49 | *** join/#debian sid (n=unstable@tor/regular/sid) |
| 19:17.00 | abrotman | !moo |
| 19:17.00 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 19:17.10 | *** join/#debian Celelibi_ (i=celelibi@APoitiers-155-1-171-197.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:17.17 | abrotman | that was special for jetx |
| 19:17.49 | sid | I have 15 gigs of bw I'm allowed to use on my web server, and my website is one file(only html text no pictures)... "-rw-r--r-- 1 sid sid 493 2006-09-23 23:17 index.html" how many hits can I get to my page before I run out of bw and my web hosting company cuts me off? |
| 19:19.12 | dererk[] | Hi, do anyone know which package should contain update-apache2-modules binary of apache2 ? |
| 19:19.19 | wols | besides you being a very unstable guy, has this any connection with debian? |
| 19:19.28 | wols | dererk[]: packages.debian.org |
| 19:19.30 | sid | wols: no |
| 19:19.34 | sussudio | sid: does this look like #calculators_for_lazy_bastards |
| 19:19.34 | herfer | sid: a boat-ton |
| 19:19.39 | herfer | more than you will possibly get. |
| 19:20.21 | wols | herfer: could be an ascii art goatse |
| 19:20.23 | herfer | hey how many pints are in a quart ? |
| 19:20.25 | herfer | guys ? |
| 19:20.26 | herfer | anyone ? |
| 19:20.32 | sussudio | %fist herfer |
| 19:20.32 | dererk[] | wols, but how do I know if a package contains a file ? |
| 19:20.45 | wols | dererk[]: have you been at pdo yet? |
| 19:20.53 | *** part/#debian Sambrista (n=alfonso@186.red-217-216-138.user.auna.net) |
| 19:21.17 | *** join/#debian craigevil (n=craig@24-176-42-53.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com) |
| 19:21.17 | zinx | sid: over 20 million |
| 19:21.24 | zinx | sid: allowing for some overhead |
| 19:21.29 | dererk[] | wols, Oh, forgot that :-P |
| 19:21.47 | dererk[] | wols, thanks |
| 19:21.54 | *** join/#debian cydork (n=vihang@213-140-21-233.fastres.net) |
| 19:22.48 | abrotman | sussudio: are your stats messed up? |
| 19:23.32 | sussudio | abrotman: meh? |
| 19:23.46 | abrotman | 14 day reporting period ? |
| 19:23.55 | sussudio | abrotman: so? |
| 19:24.05 | abrotman | i thought it was per month |
| 19:24.32 | sussudio | i didn't see the point of doing a month if i'm also generating monthly stats. |
| 19:24.43 | abrotman | oh . guess you changed it :) |
| 19:24.49 | sussudio | yes. |
| 19:24.52 | abrotman | i thought it used to do monthly |
| 19:25.01 | *** join/#debian Acid_Scorpion (n=Acid_Sco@nat.a12.qwerty.ru) |
| 19:25.29 | sussudio | 30 days runs longer :-| |
| 19:25.37 | *** join/#debian mortalguy (n=mortal@213.237.66.155.adsl.od.worldonline.dk) |
| 19:26.00 | abrotman | ok |
| 19:26.11 | *** join/#debian limpio (n=wirwe_@201.226.61.53) |
| 19:26.19 | *** join/#debian zophyx (n=Emile@pdpc/supporter/student/zophyx) |
| 19:26.20 | bbelt16ag | hey i am having a syntax error on a line in http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mysql.htm |
| 19:27.00 | *** join/#debian whatah (i=noname@nylug/member/whatah) |
| 19:27.56 | *** join/#debian jimmiehansson (n=jimmie@unaffiliated/jimmiehansson) |
| 19:28.05 | *** join/#debian QhrQsyL (n=QhrQsyL@AOrleans-151-1-84-36.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:29.55 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: i think we need a bit more info |
| 19:30.05 | *** join/#debian jonas3 (i=LoKo@c-76c0e255.04-55-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:30.20 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-253-166.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:30.56 | *** join/#debian mortalguy (n=mortal@213.237.66.155.adsl.od.worldonline.dk) |
| 19:31.28 | *** join/#debian kmaynard (n=kmaynard@user-24-214-249-208.knology.net) |
| 19:32.13 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-217-106.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 19:33.08 | *** join/#debian aredhel (n=aredhel@pool-70-19-250-207.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:34.00 | *** join/#debian mz_work (i=mz@nat/hp/x-374aa7a912abd625) |
| 19:34.16 | pickcoder | I can't install lha on Etch |
| 19:34.19 | pickcoder | Package lha is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:34.24 | pickcoder | yet it shows in apt-file |
| 19:34.28 | pickcoder | in package lha |
| 19:35.01 | asg | pickcoder: /msg dpkg why is lha not in testing |
| 19:35.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 687] by debhelper |
| 19:35.16 | *** part/#debian kmaynard (n=kmaynard@user-24-214-249-208.knology.net) |
| 19:35.36 | pickcoder | it is in testing |
| 19:35.37 | pickcoder | and unstable |
| 19:35.46 | pickcoder | but apt won't install it |
| 19:36.03 | asg | pickcoder: then run apt-get update |
| 19:36.04 | wols | pickcoder: that's kinda unpossible |
| 19:36.06 | pickcoder | I did |
| 19:36.12 | pickcoder | I get the same error |
| 19:36.16 | _Rocko | pickcoder, add "non-free" to your sources.list |
| 19:36.29 | *** join/#debian palandir` (n=palandir@p54A9E48B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:36.32 | pickcoder | _Rocko: why does apt-file show it? |
| 19:36.41 | pickcoder | if apt won't install it |
| 19:36.50 | mz_work | anyone using ivman & pmount? what's the procedure for umounting? |
| 19:37.17 | _Rocko | i dunno but lha belongs to nonfree branch |
| 19:37.36 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 19:37.38 | pickcoder | then either A) apt-file is looking everywhere or B) the lha package is broken |
| 19:38.02 | _Rocko | no it just see references to it |
| 19:38.31 | pickcoder | apt-file search lha | grep lha: |
| 19:38.40 | pickcoder | lha: usr/bin/lha |
| 19:38.40 | _Rocko | but debian doesn't add nonfree branch by default so it can't install it |
| 19:39.03 | pickcoder | I only have "main" in my sources |
| 19:39.17 | cydork | pickcoder, you need non-free for lha |
| 19:39.31 | *** join/#debian muuh_ (n=pr@billfernie.plus.com) |
| 19:39.39 | pickcoder | cydork: I know that. |
| 19:39.42 | coldboot | Does anyone know what affects the width of monospace fonts (or all fonts, or both width and height, anything) in Linux? My monospace fonts on my ubuntu installation seem to be really wide now, and I don't know how to change them back, or even where to look. |
| 19:39.49 | pickcoder | my point is that apt-file is search all branches |
| 19:39.55 | pickcoder | regardless of my sources |
| 19:39.57 | beardy | !ubuntu |
| 19:39.58 | dpkg | i guess ubuntu is A GNU/Linux distribution that is <Based on Debian>. Please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we do not support Ubuntu here. |
| 19:40.08 | cydork | pickcoder, run apt-file update |
| 19:40.14 | pickcoder | I did |
| 19:40.15 | cydork | pickcoder, and try again |
| 19:40.22 | pickcoder | :P |
| 19:40.45 | *** join/#debian Bhavesh (n=bhavesh@c-24-98-157-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 19:40.50 | pickcoder | running it again, just for kicks |
| 19:40.52 | coldboot | beardy: I shouldn't have mentioned ubuntu, but I'm pretty sure the way font sizes are determined, or dpi, is consistent across all the distros |
| 19:41.41 | wols | coldboot: sooner or later we always find out. just makes us more angry and prone to flame |
| 19:41.53 | *** join/#debian l0wkey (n=bofh@BSN-77-56-193.dsl.siol.net) |
| 19:42.06 | beardy | What wols said. |
| 19:42.16 | pickcoder | apt-file search lha | grep lha: |
| 19:42.20 | pickcoder | lha: usr/bin/lha |
| 19:42.26 | pickcoder | plus docs and man |
| 19:42.31 | coldboot | There are a lot of things that are consistent, but I guess you get so many questions for things that aren't that it's not worth the trouble |
| 19:42.43 | pickcoder | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 19:42.55 | *** join/#debian Award (n=jpdp@core-philly-4-128.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 19:43.42 | Acid_Scorpion | hello |
| 19:43.42 | cydork | pickcoder, apt-file reads the default sources.list unless you specify a different else afaik |
| 19:43.50 | cydork | s/else// |
| 19:44.01 | pickcoder | well then apparently lha is listed in the packages file for main |
| 19:44.06 | Acid_Scorpion | Any sugestion how to enable vesa-fb on kernel? |
| 19:44.06 | pickcoder | but it won't install it |
| 19:44.51 | asg | pickcoder: you need to add non-free to your sources as mentioned above |
| 19:45.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 681] by debhelper |
| 19:45.05 | pickcoder | asg: I know that and I did that |
| 19:45.17 | pickcoder | asg: but that doesn't solve the apt-file search issue |
| 19:46.03 | asg | pickcoder: did you run apt-file purge and then apt-file update? |
| 19:46.17 | pickcoder | I never listed non-free |
| 19:46.22 | pickcoder | and I _just_ installed apt-file |
| 19:46.27 | pickcoder | with "main" as my only branch |
| 19:46.33 | *** join/#debian etzerd (n=etzerd@ool-4579312b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:46.46 | etzerd | hello all |
| 19:46.57 | etzerd | dejavu all over again |
| 19:47.00 | etzerd | I need help |
| 19:47.15 | asg | pickcoder: then file a bug |
| 19:47.33 | pickcoder | ok |
| 19:47.33 | etzerd | I have Nvidia video card the 6200 series with 256MB of memory |
| 19:47.43 | abrotman | good for you! |
| 19:47.49 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:47.49 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
| 19:47.54 | *** join/#debian coax (n=coax@cpe.atm4-0-51319.0x50c6e0fe.naenxx5.customer.tele.dk) |
| 19:48.25 | etzerd | every single installation of Debian at start up the system drop by displaying a message Xserver failed with a bunch of @@@@@ on the screen |
| 19:48.41 | jelly-home | abrotman: s?he didn't even ask the question yet |
| 19:48.51 | abrotman | iknew the problem! |
| 19:48.53 | abrotman | it's alwys nvidia! |
| 19:49.23 | cydork | etzerd, did you try with nv driver? |
| 19:49.24 | *** join/#debian comfrey (n=comfrey@h-64-105-215-75.sttnwaho.covad.net) |
| 19:49.37 | etzerd | I said OK I uninstall and I install the Sage version 3.1 when I select VESA is the video driver it's work but I have only 800X600 resolution |
| 19:50.03 | *** join/#debian keith80403 (n=keith804@24-56-189-80.co.warpdriveonline.com) |
| 19:50.19 | herfer | hmmm |
| 19:50.29 | etzerd | I uninstall again then use "nv" at the end of the installation system boot up same error of Xserver |
| 19:50.31 | herfer | is there a way to tell courier-imap to just use plain unix users/password ? |
| 19:50.43 | *** join/#debian i3d (i=i3dmaste@nat/ibm/x-39551c8d328f2024) |
| 19:50.43 | herfer | no pam, no nothing. just plain users. |
| 19:50.51 | etzerd | cydork I did try nv driver same issue |
| 19:51.14 | *** join/#debian ilvecchioalex (n=user@62.13.168.67) |
| 19:51.14 | coax | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.23 | cydork | etzerd, you dont have to reinstall again to change the driver. |
| 19:51.38 | cydork | !drxx etzerd |
| 19:51.38 | dpkg | etzerd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:51.47 | etzerd | meanwhile I install ubuntu which is supported by Debian it works fine I have a resolution up to 1280X768 when I use ubuntu same for Suse or Fedora |
| 19:51.52 | abrotman | herfer: isn't PAM using passwd ? |
| 19:51.54 | coax | !LC_ALL |
| 19:51.59 | abrotman | herfer: also .. ask #courier |
| 19:52.01 | *** join/#debian der0b\ (n=mds@c-24-218-90-48.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 19:52.04 | *** join/#debian wols_ (n=klingens@p549DEBE1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#debian random_user (n=giovanni@85-18-136-90.fastres.net) |
| 19:52.27 | *** part/#debian sid (n=unstable@tor/regular/sid) |
| 19:52.35 | herfer | oh is that what pam is ? Just normal unix /etc/passwd ? |
| 19:52.37 | herfer | ok good. |
| 19:52.41 | coax | What would be a god place to set a global value for LC_ALL? |
| 19:53.22 | abrotman | herfer: in most cases |
| 19:53.23 | *** join/#debian MustangMatt (n=Miranda@209.135.152.14) |
| 19:53.30 | aGee | how do you uncompress tar.bz2 again |
| 19:53.40 | Covener | coax: maybe /etc/profile / /etc/profile.d |
| 19:53.43 | wols_ | taj -jxvf |
| 19:53.44 | h3sp4wn | coax: /etc/environment (that is where I would) |
| 19:54.01 | cydork | !tar.bz2 |
| 19:54.01 | dpkg | tar --bzip2 -xvf file.tar.bz2 |
| 19:54.12 | cydork | bah |
| 19:54.31 | *** join/#debian Nones (n=jose@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:55.05 | etzerd | OK cydork how do you save the file if I update xorg.conf using VI, what is the command to save the file if you make any changes? |
| 19:55.14 | *** join/#debian krys_ (n=krys@host84-154-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:55.18 | krys_ | ciao a tutti |
| 19:55.27 | krys_ | avrei bisogno di un piccolo aiutino... |
| 19:55.29 | krys_ | posso kiedere? |
| 19:55.32 | cydork | etzerd, dont edit file by hand. |
| 19:55.36 | dendrite | etzerd: <esc>ZZ or <esc>wq |
| 19:55.40 | cydork | !xmd5 |
| 19:55.40 | dpkg | If you edit your X conffile, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. See <Xorgmd5> if you are running <Xorg> |
| 19:55.50 | pearl | etzerd: lol? |
| 19:55.59 | pearl | etzerd: type esc then :help in the vi |
| 19:56.05 | *** join/#debian esters (n=tty4@87.110.101.153) |
| 19:56.06 | pearl | u got a big manual |
| 19:56.09 | pearl | or use man vi |
| 19:56.30 | etzerd | Guys trust me I love Debian but it seems that I have problem installing it. |
| 19:56.31 | asg | or run vimtutor |
| 19:56.53 | etzerd | I use both version Sage 3.1 or the testing etch both gave me the same error |
| 19:56.54 | pearl | yea, thats the best :) |
| 19:57.02 | asg | etzerd: it's installed just fine, it's just that X doesn't work |
| 19:57.13 | *** part/#debian krys_ (n=krys@host84-154-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:57.13 | Covener | etzerd: learn to use an editor, stop reinstalling, configure your system |
| 19:57.15 | *** join/#debian rIpper (n=brad@fny94-1-81-57-170-149.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:57.18 | pearl | etzerd: everytime i install it it runs perfectly |
| 19:57.23 | pearl | i use stable and it runs everytime |
| 19:57.30 | *** part/#debian creature (n=creature@unaffiliated/creature) |
| 19:57.35 | pearl | if i neeed a actuall software i compile it by myself |
| 19:57.37 | pearl | :) |
| 19:57.42 | pearl | all is fine, hehe |
| 19:57.43 | asg | etzerd: if you need an easier editor to work with until you learn vi or something else, use 'nano -w' |
| 19:58.01 | *** join/#debian Nighteye (n=n8oog@82-47-119-81.cable.ubr08.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 19:58.38 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@V4bd5.v.pppool.de) |
| 19:58.59 | etzerd | asg how how how: while the installation progress there is no option to set the Video card everything run smoodly until the final boot up |
| 19:59.06 | *** join/#debian FreshPrince (n=gfunk@84-73-197-183.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:59.13 | etzerd | boommm the error of xserver |
| 19:59.45 | etzerd | one more thing when I try to log on as root at the prompt I typed: su |
| 19:59.49 | etzerd | then the password |
| 20:00.16 | etzerd | I mean the root password it display wrong password! eventhough the password is right |
| 20:00.37 | dendrite | etzerd: capslock on? |
| 20:00.43 | *** join/#debian flashnet (i=flashnet@Darkstar.AceShells.com) |
| 20:00.47 | etzerd | then when I use the user password it went through then I have a display saying that name is not in the sudoers |
| 20:00.53 | *** join/#debian jatt (n=user@69.79.198.124) |
| 20:00.58 | etzerd | no capslock on! |
| 20:01.13 | *** join/#debian jacek (n=jacek@host-195-206-113-245.telsat.wroc.pl) |
| 20:01.29 | etzerd | right now I'm using ubuntu |
| 20:01.40 | dendrite | etzerd: If at a regular prompt you type 'su' and then supply the root password at the password prompt, and it says wrong password, then odds are you've not supplied the root password. |
| 20:01.45 | etzerd | I'm going to unstall ubuntu to try Debian again |
| 20:01.45 | cydork | heh |
| 20:02.11 | sepski | etzerd, do, or do not.. there is no try ! |
| 20:02.16 | dendrite | etzerd: Ah. No idea about ubuntu. Maybe it disables root login. Why are you asking ubuntu questions here? |
| 20:02.20 | vulture | etzerd: that doesn't really follow.. - since Ubuntu is not Debian. |
| 20:02.30 | stoned | ahh boy |
| 20:02.35 | stoned | just got home from work |
| 20:02.37 | herfer | haha |
| 20:02.42 | woodgrain | does netinst 3.1r3 have SATA support? |
| 20:02.43 | etzerd | dendrite trust me I wrote that root password just to make sure it is happening maybe 10 times already. I cannot be wrong 10 times |
| 20:02.47 | cydork | etzerd, install debian and come here agian |
| 20:02.52 | stoned | I took my lunch at 2:40, I gotta be back at work at 3:40, and I get off at 4 |
| 20:02.53 | stoned | lol |
| 20:03.08 | stoned | this is the life |
| 20:03.11 | dendrite | etzerd: Ubuntu isn't debian, and we don't know what you get when you type 'su' and then give the root password. |
| 20:03.12 | stew | woodgrain: yes, some, you'll want to use the 2.6 kenrel, not the (default) 2.4 kernel, hit f3 at the boot: prompt |
| 20:03.23 | stoned | come home, smoke a joint, and then go back, finally gonna get a chance to update my sid system today |
| 20:03.25 | stoned | thank god |
| 20:03.55 | woodgrain | stew, okay ... looking into it. what's expert26 going to do to me? |
| 20:03.59 | etzerd | cydork: ubuntu is supported by Debian, the installation process is same that is why I mentioned ubuntu. |
| 20:04.09 | stoned | sarge 2.6 kernel has sata support, and 2.4 has a patch |
| 20:04.11 | dendrite | etzerd: Well, it's not the same. At all. |
| 20:04.12 | etzerd | OK final word |
| 20:04.12 | *** join/#debian anykey (n=lindem@dslb-084-058-244-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:04.13 | stoned | !sata |
| 20:04.13 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SCSI_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 20:04.17 | stew | woodgrain: nothing interesting |
| 20:04.21 | slacktyro | abrotman: i did a couple of things but i'm still lose, the thing i know is that i don't have the module |
| 20:04.23 | etzerd | I'm going to try again. |
| 20:04.27 | stoned | damn am i lagging |
| 20:04.28 | stoned | !ping |
| 20:04.28 | dpkg | pong |
| 20:04.49 | cydork | etzerd, no it's not similar to debian. but install debian and we will help you :) |
| 20:05.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 688] by debhelper |
| 20:05.08 | rvsjoen | etzerd: have you set the root password at all ? |
| 20:05.14 | etzerd | I Know at the end I will have a display say: "Cannot start the Xserver with option to fix it. What should I do at that time? |
| 20:05.47 | anykey | hi. I recently obtained a SGI Indy, running debian etch. When I tried to build my own kernel, I encountered a problem: mips64-linux-gnu was nowhere to be found. My Research there only revealed information which was somewhat fishy. Any ideas where I would get this? |
| 20:05.53 | cydork | etzerd, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select nv as driver. |
| 20:05.53 | rvsjoen | root user should be locked by default on ubuntu |
| 20:05.54 | etzerd | rvsjoen: trust me I set the root password when it asked for during the installation process and the user password as well |
| 20:06.22 | *** join/#debian intercool (n=intercoo@62.73.205.12) |
| 20:06.45 | etzerd | I did that cydork. then I have a display the said the user name is not in the sudoers |
| 20:06.46 | dendrite | etzerd: It doesn't matter. You're running ubuntu, and it does root account different. Apples, and oranges. |
| 20:07.10 | cydork | etzerd, i am saying on debian not ubuntu. |
| 20:07.20 | cydork | etzerd, i have no fucking clue about ubuntu |
| 20:07.28 | etzerd | what I mean after I leave this channel I will remove ubuntu and install Debian one more time to see what I get this time |
| 20:07.32 | woodgrain | stew, the netinst. can't load ide-mod and some other ide modules. Should I fix this now or later? |
| 20:07.38 | intercool | I got debian 3.1 installed as under xen, and I want to install a mysql 5 server on it. Anyone got the repository where i can get mysql 5.0.x |
| 20:07.44 | intercool | -as |
| 20:07.44 | *** join/#debian Eludias (n=eludias@wingding.demon.nl) |
| 20:07.46 | abrotman | boohissboo |
| 20:07.49 | etzerd | OK guys let me try again |
| 20:07.57 | stew | woodgrain: using the 2.4 kernel or the 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:08.04 | woodgrain | stew 2.6 |
| 20:08.27 | etzerd | you told me at the error message of Xserver type : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:08.51 | etzerd | I will log on as root |
| 20:08.51 | *** join/#debian paster (n=paster@rzlab.ucr.edu) |
| 20:08.51 | etzerd | using the command at the prompt: su |
| 20:08.52 | etzerd | then the root password |
| 20:08.55 | stew | etzerd: if you are using ubuntu, i doubt you are using xserver-xfree86, please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu. ubuntu is off-topic here |
| 20:09.05 | *** join/#debian debhelper (n=debhelpe@rzlab.ucr.edu) |
| 20:09.10 | *** join/#debian rogier (n=rogier@83-67-dsl.ipact.nl) |
| 20:09.43 | *** mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by ChanServ |
| 20:09.57 | jetx | i feel extra special now abrotman |
| 20:10.04 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:10.08 | abrotman | cydork: timeout |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#debian cbr (n=cbr@84-50-134-161-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) |
| 20:10.19 | cydork | heh |
| 20:10.19 | jetx | there are some clients that can get around the 4line limit |
| 20:10.32 | asg | abrotman: nah, doninlab went for a snack |
| 20:10.39 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:10.54 | *** part/#debian FreshPrince (n=gfunk@84-73-197-183.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:11.12 | rogier | Can anybody point me to some document or tell me how I can configure the order in which modules are loaded ? I'm having trouble that hotplug is loading my video and audio devices in another order every time I boot. |
| 20:11.30 | stew | rogier: list them in /etc/modules in the order you want them loaded |
| 20:11.49 | intercool | where do i find repositories ? |
| 20:12.02 | stew | intercool: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 20:12.03 | asg | intercool: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:12.15 | rogier | stew, I did that, but it seems that that hotplug is loading them even before the init process reaches /etc/modules ..... :-( |
| 20:12.38 | stew | rogier: blacklist them from hotplug then: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 20:12.41 | intercool | asg i need new ones, i need to find one with mysql-server 5.0 |
| 20:12.50 | asg | intercool: /msg dpkg backports |
| 20:12.51 | *** join/#debian ALyon (n=ALyon@87.69.3.81.cable.012.net.il) |
| 20:13.06 | rogier | stew, ok thanks |
| 20:13.24 | stew | woodgrain: sorry, i forgot about you... this happens during hardware detection? is this bran new hardware? |
| 20:13.29 | *** join/#debian wilbury (i=otis@remedy.wilbury.sk) |
| 20:13.47 | *** join/#debian jduggan_ (n=jduggan@91.84.8.243) |
| 20:14.20 | wilbury | folks, i've noticed small "oddness": when I do "ps -ef" -> system five style, the "UID" column is left-aligned while in true system five is right-aligned |
| 20:14.26 | wilbury | anyone noticed this? :-) |
| 20:14.30 | woodgrain | stew, well yeah during hdwr det. ... the hardware is 2 year old intel factory board. |
| 20:14.47 | woodgrain | stew, 915gev board |
| 20:14.59 | intercool | dpkg isnt online ? |
| 20:15.02 | stew | woodgrain: it detects ide, tries to load a module for it and gets an error loading the module? |
| 20:15.09 | stew | dondelelcaro: we lost dpkg |
| 20:15.10 | woodgrain | stew, I've gone ahead without these ide modules |
| 20:15.22 | intercool | Is there any webpage ? |
| 20:15.23 | cydork | ~hi |
| 20:15.24 | apt | hello, cydork |
| 20:15.29 | woodgrain | stew, it just said do you want to go back and fix or keep on w/o fixing. I kept going. |
| 20:15.31 | asg | intercool: backports.org |
| 20:15.38 | stew | intercool: http://dpkg.vireo.org or there are other bots, try ravenbird or apt or badgers |
| 20:15.56 | intercool | thanks guys |
| 20:16.08 | *** join/#debian bun-bun (n=dem@client-82-26-28-93.winn.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 20:17.12 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p508923E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:18.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 681] by debhelper |
| 20:18.24 | abrotman | if only aptitude were here! |
| 20:18.27 | woodgrain | stew, thansk for the help. looks like base install was a success. |
| 20:18.33 | stew | abrotman: not going to happen just yet |
| 20:18.34 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 20:18.39 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:18.57 | beardy | Why, a while ago every bot were here? |
| 20:19.05 | stew | abrotman: everything is moving around, i've had dsl here for a week and a half and haven't even had time to start using it |
| 20:19.16 | abrotman | stew: you can share in resiak's AOL pain :) |
| 20:19.24 | stew | f that |
| 20:19.36 | stew | i have a cablemodem that works still |
| 20:19.42 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:20.09 | *** join/#debian unreal (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 20:20.16 | *** join/#debian kiwnix (n=egarcia@226.red-82-158-158.user.auna.net) |
| 20:20.28 | tarzeau | values.h , where find it? |
| 20:20.43 | *** join/#debian eucalre (n=manek@client-82-20-12-72.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 20:20.44 | asg | tarzeau: apt-file search values.h |
| 20:20.53 | beardy | is that the real tarzeau? |
| 20:21.08 | stew | tarzeau: how is the debian-win32 port going? |
| 20:21.15 | tarzeau | stew: do i care? |
| 20:21.38 | tarzeau | stew: but gnu/kfreebsd is doing well. and if i'm finished with my todo stuff maybe i can give a try on gnu/minix |
| 20:21.40 | stew | tarzeau: yes, you were aparantly working on it before |
| 20:21.43 | *** join/#debian dpm (n=dpm@p54A1447D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:21.45 | tarzeau | beardy: is there another tarzeau? |
| 20:21.50 | asg | stew: you mean Debian/NeXT |
| 20:21.55 | tarzeau | stew: no, i've never done ANYthing on that |
| 20:22.05 | tarzeau | asg: haha, livecd.gnustep.org is in great shape! |
| 20:22.08 | *** join/#debian Tarantulafudge (n=Michael@rrcs-70-61-249-146.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:22.12 | tarzeau | asg: except some christmas fun! |
| 20:22.16 | tarzeau | expect |
| 20:22.19 | beardy | tarzeau: Not that I know of, I just thought this one knew about apt-file, and were shocked. |
| 20:22.28 | asg | tarzeau: :) values.h appears to be in libc6-dev |
| 20:22.32 | Tarantulafudge | When I try to use the via driver in Xorg 7.1 it says X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/via_drv.so: undefined symbol: assert |
| 20:22.45 | tarzeau | asg: well, i've got freebsd ... damn source needs gnu c library |
| 20:22.48 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.82) |
| 20:22.49 | Tarantulafudge | any clues |
| 20:23.08 | tarzeau | asg: just curious why it built on MY sparc64, and not on his i386... |
| 20:23.46 | *** join/#debian Kev1 (i=kevin@123.168.100-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 20:24.15 | asg | tarzeau: hmmm, dunno, I can't find a values.h on my openbsd box |
| 20:24.41 | tarzeau | asg: do freebsd ports work on openbsd. guess not |
| 20:24.53 | tarzeau | asg: but i'm gonna try openbsd on my SGI O2 R10000 |
| 20:24.55 | asg | tarzeau: ports won't, no. |
| 20:25.09 | tarzeau | asg: there exist gnustep openssh "ports" |
| 20:25.17 | tarzeau | errr, s,openssh,openbsd, |
| 20:25.30 | asg | tarzeau: yeah |
| 20:25.31 | tarzeau | asg: btw looked at bsdstats? www.bsdstats.org |
| 20:26.02 | asg | tarzeau: oh, is that yours? |
| 20:26.07 | tarzeau | asg: nope |
| 20:26.11 | asg | tarzeau: oh, wait, we went through this didn't we |
| 20:26.15 | tarzeau | asg: bug bugstats is mine |
| 20:26.17 | tarzeau | !bugstats |
| 20:26.34 | tarzeau | http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ |
| 20:26.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: find values.h sid |
| 20:26.51 | slacktyro | abrotman: i got the drive at the site, but when i try to run ./configure it say that that the kernel is not with all modules |
| 20:27.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's really for a freebsd .. so off-topic here |
| 20:27.40 | abrotman | slacktyro: huh ? |
| 20:27.54 | abrotman | slacktyro: you were supposed to use the 2.6.16 ekrnel at backports.org |
| 20:28.09 | *** join/#debian tuxedup (n=house@86.111.163.120) |
| 20:28.23 | *** join/#debian TonyRad (n=a@cornerstones.com) |
| 20:28.46 | slacktyro | abrotman: the drivers i'm talking about is the sound driver, i got it at asus.com |
| 20:29.02 | abrotman | slacktyro: the 2.6.16 at backports.org should have the drivers in there for you |
| 20:29.05 | asg | tarzeau: http://cvsup.pt.freebsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/cvsweb.cgi/src/gnu/include/Attic/values.h (looks like it was removed) |
| 20:29.54 | tarzeau | asg: in february 2003... and i still had it in freebsd 6.1 on sparc64 ? |
| 20:29.56 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (n=Firestar@cpe-74-70-76-50.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:30.33 | asg | tarzeau: dunno |
| 20:30.59 | asg | tarzeau: I'll be quiet now before stew yells at me ;) |
| 20:31.37 | woodgrain | I just did netinst base install. No network now. Do I use modprobe to get network running? |
| 20:31.56 | stew | tarzeau: oh, you said you were working on the debian-win32 port when you were in here asking questions about how to find tcpd.exe before, which is why i asked |
| 20:32.11 | *** join/#debian fasta (n=fasta@zonnebloem.demon.nl) |
| 20:32.21 | tarzeau | stew: ah, i've used perl for the thing i needed (didn't find any tcpd.exe) |
| 20:32.33 | *** join/#debian finrod (n=finrod@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 20:32.44 | stew | woodgrain: "ifconfig -a" doesn't list an interface other than maybe lo ? |
| 20:32.52 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@cl-38.muc-02.de.sixxs.net) |
| 20:32.54 | wols_ | woodgrain: possibly if you need to load a driver. then edit your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:32.56 | stew | woodgrain: do you know what ethernet card you have? |
| 20:32.56 | tarzeau | stew: i must have been kidding. i never did anything for debian-win32. i just said it's possible possibly. the main issue is replacing files that are locked (.dlls) bound with reboots |
| 20:33.33 | *** join/#debian lakcaj (n=lakcaj@70.53.65.67) |
| 20:33.37 | woodgrain | stew, I actually have two cards lo, and etho |
| 20:33.47 | sussudio | badgers' dpkg factoid database is about as recent as can (FYI) |
| 20:33.48 | asdfg | why? |
| 20:33.49 | asdfg | DUDE |
| 20:33.49 | woodgrain | stew, whatever lo is. |
| 20:33.50 | asdfg | WHY? |
| 20:33.54 | sussudio | %why |
| 20:33.54 | badgers | Because! |
| 20:33.55 | asdfg | Ask yourself! |
| 20:34.16 | stew | asdfg: do you have a debian related question? |
| 20:34.30 | asdfg | i asked him why |
| 20:34.31 | tarzeau | can someone explain what this means: Qualitative Research ? |
| 20:34.31 | asg | looks like a bot stupidity parade |
| 20:34.32 | stew | woodgrain: then you likely need to just configure /etc/network/interfaces, man interfaces |
| 20:34.56 | stew | asdfg: if you don't have any debian related questions, please just move on |
| 20:35.05 | stew | woodgrain: lo is the "loopback" interface, 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:35.07 | woodgrain | stew, if I have an eth0 listed by ifconfig, does that mean the driver for it is here? |
| 20:35.07 | asdfg | why is why not a debian related question? |
| 20:35.18 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 20:35.20 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@i577BD6E8.versanet.de] by stew |
| 20:35.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 20:35.25 | woodgrain | stew, is loopback like checking your own pulse or ... ? |
| 20:35.25 | stew | asdfg: you've been devoiced for 10 minutes |
| 20:35.49 | stew | woodgrain: more like a way to call yourself. or connect to your own services |
| 20:36.32 | woodgrain | stew, if I have an eth0 do I also have the driver module or not-necessarily? |
| 20:36.58 | stew | woodgrain: you must have the correct driver loaded for an ethernet card for eth0 to be showing up in ifconfig -a |
| 20:37.17 | woodgrain | stew, thank you SOOOO much! |
| 20:37.20 | tarzeau | what replaced xlibs-dev again? x-dev ? libx-dev ? |
| 20:37.45 | *** join/#debian Yggdrasil (n=YurtleTh@user-119b692.biz.mindspring.com) |
| 20:37.54 | *** join/#debian unreal_ (n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal) |
| 20:38.16 | *** join/#debian Firestarter_ (n=Firestar@cpe-74-70-76-50.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:38.18 | woodgrain | stew, there is nothing in my /etc/network/interfaces file except some comments |
| 20:38.18 | Yggdrasil | so can somone help me.. i apparently dont have lspci installed. im not sure what pkg it comes in. |
| 20:38.37 | wols_ | Yggdrasil: I told you hours ago. |
| 20:38.47 | wols_ | Y!tell Yggdrasil about search |
| 20:38.51 | wols_ | !tell Yggdrasil about search |
| 20:39.01 | Yggdrasil | yea y tell me haha |
| 20:39.01 | stew | tarzeau: it was split into many packages iirc |
| 20:39.02 | wols_ | especially look at the packages.debian.org mentioning |
| 20:39.12 | wols_ | Yggdrasil: I did. so? |
| 20:39.16 | tarzeau | stew: i know, oh well i'll find out... |
| 20:39.33 | stew | tarzeau: use apt-file to find the particular .h files you knwo you need |
| 20:39.36 | Yggdrasil | wols well you told me somethig but . it didnt help im sorry to say |
| 20:39.52 | wols_ | 20:51 < wols> pciutils |
| 20:39.54 | Yggdrasil | and then i had to go do some work. |
| 20:39.59 | *** join/#debian i3d (i=i3dmaste@nat/ibm/x-f33bccb432644e7b) |
| 20:40.02 | stew | woodgrain: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz has examples |
| 20:40.09 | Yggdrasil | apt-cache search lspci doesnt show anything nor does apt-cachee search <regex> |
| 20:40.31 | wols_ | I just fucking told you right now again. are you blind? |
| 20:40.32 | *** join/#debian rockzman (n=root@200.155.3.155) |
| 20:40.46 | woodgrain | stew, thanks I am blind ... I though .../examples was a file ... duh. |
| 20:40.47 | wols_ | and pdo has a great box to look for "what package has which file" |
| 20:40.54 | stew | Yggdrasil: apt-file search lspci , or searching on pacakge contents on packages.debian.org would have found it for you |
| 20:41.18 | Yggdrasil | wols i didnt receive the bot msg. |
| 20:41.20 | wols_ | stew: I told him about pdo a long time ago. but he's too dense to listen |
| 20:41.36 | Yggdrasil | !tell yggdrasil about search |
| 20:41.45 | Yggdrasil | tell yggdrasil about search |
| 20:41.46 | wols_ | !test |
| 20:42.01 | wols_ | someone file an APB for dpkg |
| 20:42.06 | stew | dondelelcaro: ^^ |
| 20:42.21 | wols_ | Yggdrasil: and I told you several times in here in the channel where to look. and what to install |
| 20:42.42 | Yggdrasil | sorry |
| 20:42.51 | abrotman | wols_: he quit a while ago |
| 20:42.59 | abrotman | wols_: but the others made it back ..i thought he would too |
| 20:43.05 | wols_ | abrotman: had some yoyo problems myself |
| 20:43.28 | slacktyro | abrotman: i have to download http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.16/sarge-custom-0801.iso |
| 20:43.32 | slacktyro | ? |
| 20:44.22 | TonyRad | I've got a super small problem.. ALl I need to do is open up my ssh port on my debian box... I know it's in a conf file somewhere.. I just can't remember which one.. Any thoughts? |
| 20:45.01 | stew | TonyRad: did you install a firewall on the box? is the ssh deamon running? |
| 20:45.18 | sussudio | %open ports |
| 20:45.19 | badgers | i guess open ports is # netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or ask me about <open files>, or fuser -n tcp <portnumber> |
| 20:45.30 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 20:45.32 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@i577BD6E8.versanet.de] by stew |
| 20:45.32 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 20:45.46 | abrotman | slacktyro: no .. go to backports.org .. follow the instructions .. there's a 2.6.16 already there for you |
| 20:45.52 | TonyRad | there isn't a firewall on the box. sshd might not be running |
| 20:45.53 | *** join/#debian Yurtle (n=YurtleTh@user-119b692.biz.mindspring.com) |
| 20:46.02 | stew | TonyRad: what version of debian? |
| 20:46.07 | Yggdrasil | well thanks |
| 20:46.21 | *** part/#debian Yggdrasil (n=YurtleTh@user-119b692.biz.mindspring.com) |
| 20:46.31 | TonyRad | if I try to connect to ssh localhost I get the error: "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: connection refused" |
| 20:46.41 | stew | TonyRad: stable? |
| 20:46.49 | stew | TonyRad: or testing/unstable? |
| 20:47.03 | TonyRad | Testing |
| 20:47.14 | stew | TonyRad: "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server" and say that you want the server to be running. then "/etc/init.d/ssh start" will start it |
| 20:47.47 | *** join/#debian rockzman (n=fr3ak@200.155.3.155) |
| 20:47.58 | rockzman | Can someone tell me what iptables rule I must use if I want to give a whole Class on my LAN to have access through my server |
| 20:47.58 | rockzman | rockzman I want to allow access to internet to a LAN class connected on the server |
| 20:48.06 | rockzman | Can someone tell me what iptables rule I must use if I want to give a whole Class on my LAN to have access through my server |
| 20:48.08 | TonyRad | wow... |
| 20:48.15 | rockzman | Sorry |
| 20:48.16 | rockzman | the flood |
| 20:48.31 | stew | rockzman: what do you mean by class? a subnet? |
| 20:48.35 | rockzman | stew, |
| 20:48.35 | rockzman | yea |
| 20:48.52 | *** join/#debian Nicolas[VamUdeS] (n=elik@modemcable220.4-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:48.56 | TonyRad | That didn't work... |
| 20:49.07 | stew | rockzman: the server is the destination or is it forwarding to some other network? |
| 20:49.09 | *** join/#debian Makenai (n=pawel@nv-208-13-140-5.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 20:49.10 | rockzman | like i have a 192.168 computer connected through my server but it is not accessing i want to NAT it making it surfs |
| 20:49.10 | *** part/#debian Nicolas[VamUdeS] (n=elik@modemcable220.4-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:49.33 | rockzman | stew, it receives from internet and my intention is to give access to this subnet i want to allow |
| 20:50.15 | stew | rockzman: use the ipmasq package to do it semi-automatically, or: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/16 -j MASQERADE |
| 20:50.19 | TonyRad | It's not starting... "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd/etc/ssh/sshd_config line 56: unsupported option KerberosTicketCleanup" |
| 20:50.28 | *** join/#debian printk (n=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk) |
| 20:50.29 | TonyRad | Also errors on line 60, 61, and 62 |
| 20:50.36 | woodgrain | in /etc/network/interfaces, are iface eth0 and auto eth0 mutually exclusive? |
| 20:50.56 | stew | TonyRad: sounds like you need to edit your /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 20:51.05 | rockzman | stew, |
| 20:51.07 | rockzman | i tried that |
| 20:51.20 | rockzman | and when i type iptables -L the rule does not appears o: |
| 20:51.28 | stew | rockzman: edit /etc/sysctl.conf and make sure ip_forwarding is turned on |
| 20:51.42 | stew | rockzman: are you running iptables -L ? or iptables -t nat -L ? |
| 20:51.53 | rockzman | after i did paste ur rule |
| 20:51.59 | rockzman | i ran a iptables -L |
| 20:52.13 | stew | woodgrain: no, "iface eth0" is where you define what the interface is. "auto eth0" means bring this interface up automatically at boot. otherwise the interface doesn't come up until you run "ifup eth0" |
| 20:52.18 | TonyRad | And it looks like it's the kerberos that's causing the issue... libkrb53 is apparently corrupt.... |
| 20:52.23 | *** join/#debian kozmic (i=34513@selje.idi.ntnu.no) |
| 20:52.43 | *** join/#debian finrod (n=finrod@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 20:52.46 | stew | rockzman: "iptables -L" would do the same as "iptables -t filter -L" but we added a rule to the nat table, not the filter table |
| 20:53.12 | wols_ | woodgrain: no. man interfaces |
| 20:53.18 | stew | TonyRad: i wouldn't blame the lib, i would suspect that openssh-server wans't compiled with kerberos support |
| 20:54.01 | rockzman | stew, |
| 20:54.01 | TonyRad | Yeah, after changing a few things, it was just the lack of kerberos support |
| 20:54.07 | stew | rockzman, |
| 20:54.14 | TonyRad | The crazy thing is how this worked up until 2 weeks ago... I got it fixed now though.. Thanks!~ |
| 20:54.30 | rockzman | i use slackware what is the sysctl.conf |
| 20:54.33 | rockzman | of it stew |
| 20:55.10 | stew | rockzman: it is where in debian you would enable ip_forwarding. if you are using slackware you should be asking in #slackware or #iptables, not here |
| 20:55.24 | rockzman | stew, ok sorry |
| 20:55.28 | *** join/#debian strk (n=strk@ip-113-193.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 20:55.30 | rockzman | but anyway thanks for the atenttion |
| 20:55.34 | rockzman | (: |
| 20:57.09 | strk | what's the smallest package to apt-get install to get a *simple_to_use_for_family_members* desktop environment ? (gnome-desktop-environment upgrades the hell and downloads over 80MB) |
| 20:57.23 | tarzeau | strk: gnustep |
| 20:57.24 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:57.36 | *** join/#debian ramir3z_ (n=rami@p54A64A2B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:57.38 | abrotman | strk: icewm is okay for famliy members |
| 20:57.43 | abrotman | or xfce |
| 20:57.49 | abrotman | really? |
| 20:57.50 | tarzeau | strk: also do wmaker |
| 20:57.57 | tarzeau | strk: :) |
| 20:58.00 | *** join/#debian seeds (n=scrillaz@69.57.241.254) |
| 20:58.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: one beer for me |
| 20:58.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: send me your guitar! |
| 20:58.14 | stew | strk: gnustep will get you the best that 1995 has to offer |
| 20:58.17 | strk | abrotman: just started download (too lazy to really make a research) |
| 20:58.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha, come and get it if you dare |
| 20:58.18 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:58.27 | abrotman | strk: http://xwinman.org |
| 20:58.31 | tarzeau | stew: hahaha |
| 20:58.41 | strk | ok, best match seems to be icewm (okay for family members) |
| 20:58.44 | *** join/#debian cqst (i=cqst@ras75-4-82-229-152-200.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:58.52 | tarzeau | strk: looks great, feels great: http://cow.ethz.ch/textedit.png |
| 20:59.05 | strk | btw, where's 'switchdesk' ? I got used to it in the past... to easily check them all... |
| 20:59.19 | strk | tarzeau: which one looks great ? |
| 20:59.23 | tarzeau | strk: gnustep |
| 20:59.32 | tarzeau | strk: square and gray |
| 20:59.34 | abrotman | haha |
| 20:59.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: not gonna happen |
| 20:59.46 | tarzeau | strk: people rape their mac os x to look like it: see stepmenus.sf.net |
| 21:00.20 | strk | ok, gnustep installed, but my unmodified user doesn't get it by default... is there a 'switchdesk' equivalent to set the desktop environment ? |
| 21:00.44 | wols_ | strk: are you using a display manager? |
| 21:00.56 | tarzeau | i belive NM should be replaced with http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian.png |
| 21:01.02 | wols_ | tho, I think tarzeau should answer this |
| 21:01.05 | *** join/#debian rysiek|pl|brb (n=rysiek@213-238-67-65.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 21:01.13 | rysiek|pl|brb | hi there, guys |
| 21:01.17 | tarzeau | strk: put exec wmaker in your .xinitrc |
| 21:01.22 | tarzeau | strk: you can use wdm |
| 21:01.23 | craigevil | gnustep should show up in your apps menu, at least it does in KDE |
| 21:01.32 | tarzeau | strk: yeah install "menu" too |
| 21:01.33 | streuner | strk: depends on the family members |
| 21:01.38 | tarzeau | strk: and you'll have gworkspace.app |
| 21:01.44 | tarzeau | strk: it's like finder in mac os x |
| 21:01.46 | *** join/#debian GNUro (n=GNUro@host32-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:01.58 | streuner | strk: if they are able to read and learn normal - they could use everything in debian |
| 21:02.10 | tarzeau | streuner: OUCH |
| 21:02.14 | tarzeau | streuner: i'd NOT say that |
| 21:02.28 | streuner | tarzeau: i know |
| 21:02.33 | SK|Asylum-gamese | when i type svc -d /home/asytest it does not kill the service, i have tried -t -k yadda yadda yadda, any ideas? |
| 21:02.46 | streuner | but the questions indicates such meanings... |
| 21:03.15 | strk | wols_: no display manager, no |
| 21:03.20 | streuner | keep in mind, you have to learn in every OS |
| 21:03.28 | tarzeau | streuner: like this? http://sycophant.wordpress.com/files/2006/03/emacs.jpg |
| 21:03.33 | strk | manually run 'startx' |
| 21:03.45 | GNUro | how i can use "gpg --no-tty" command with dpkg-buildpackage? Command as fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -S -k -p'gpg --no-tty' don't work. Have Somone any idea? |
| 21:03.50 | strk | switchdesk was really useful, can't find it in a debian package though |
| 21:04.03 | Placid | hi, could anyone direct me to a wiki or general website that may have a suggested sources.list for sid/unstable? |
| 21:04.32 | azeem | Placid: why do you need it? |
| 21:04.33 | strk | tarzeau: family member == can't remember where they put files so need a file manager ;) |
| 21:04.40 | Placid | i've just installed debian sid on this laptop and really need to get wireless working |
| 21:04.46 | tarzeau | strk: gworkspace.app IS a file manager |
| 21:05.03 | tarzeau | strk: http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/gworkspace/images/screenshot.jpg |
| 21:05.08 | Placid | azeem: i'd also like a decent sized sources.list for a wider software range (perhaps even non-free) |
| 21:05.08 | azeem | Placid: if you installed sid, you already got unstable, there are no other sources.list for wireles |
| 21:05.12 | strk | tarzeau: good, but is there a 'switchdesk' equivalent updating the .Xclients file ? |
| 21:05.21 | azeem | Placid: so add non-free at the end of your unstable deb line |
| 21:05.30 | Placid | azeem: ok thank you |
| 21:05.31 | tarzeau | strk: no idea. if i have gnustep, why would i want to switch? |
| 21:05.44 | tarzeau | strk: there's emacs.app that can edit .Xclients |
| 21:05.46 | strk | ok, wmaker... |
| 21:05.52 | strk | what about nautilus ? |
| 21:06.00 | azeem | strk: don't listen to tarzeau |
| 21:06.03 | tarzeau | bugs.debian.org/nautilus |
| 21:06.03 | strk | I've also heard nautilus is a desktop manager, is that correct ? |
| 21:06.10 | tarzeau | strk: it's a file manager |
| 21:06.15 | Placid | Also, i need the kernel source or to make-kpkg modules_image, but i need to at least configure. however the kernel-headers directory has no configure script. Could anyone help? |
| 21:06.20 | azeem | strk: sort of, it manages the GNOME background destkop |
| 21:06.23 | azeem | desktop |
| 21:06.30 | azeem | but you can tell it not to |
| 21:06.39 | strk | azeem: so, how would I start nautilus then ? (see how useful 'switchdesk' was ?) |
| 21:07.11 | azeem | strk: wait, you want to start gnustep or what? |
| 21:07.32 | strk | azeem: I want to review the desktop manager I have installed on my system... try different ones |
| 21:07.33 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@ecw201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:07.42 | wols_ | Placid: kernel source |
| 21:07.45 | strk | a window-manager-config thing... whatever |
| 21:07.51 | azeem | strk: eh, desktop manager? |
| 21:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 668] by debhelper |
| 21:08.01 | tarzeau | strk: the wdm package allows you to choose different once |
| 21:08.04 | tarzeau | ones |
| 21:08.06 | azeem | strk: are you talking about display manager? |
| 21:08.07 | tarzeau | strk: at login time |
| 21:08.08 | strk | no wdm |
| 21:08.09 | wols_ | is what you need, if you want to set .config |
| 21:08.10 | Placid | wols_: kernel-source wasn't listed for my kernel (default kernel, 2.4.13-3-386 iirc) |
| 21:08.18 | tarzeau | strk: apt-get install wdm |
| 21:08.20 | strk | azeem: I'm talking about desktop environments (WM + modules) |
| 21:08.24 | wols_ | Placid: can't be. this is no debian kernel |
| 21:08.32 | strk | isn't wdm something like xdm ? |
| 21:08.34 | azeem | strk: so something like GNOME, KDE, Xfce? |
| 21:08.37 | tarzeau | strk: yes it is |
| 21:08.37 | *** join/#debian Growly (n=growly@222-152-157-83.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 21:08.39 | wols_ | Placid: what are you running? |
| 21:08.39 | strk | azeem: correct |
| 21:08.44 | *** join/#debian Mr_Molez (n=admin@openleague.org) |
| 21:08.45 | tarzeau | strk: it provides you a graphical login |
| 21:08.45 | azeem | strk: so what's the problem? |
| 21:08.47 | strk | tarzeau: I don't want an xdm running |
| 21:08.48 | azeem | just install them |
| 21:08.49 | Placid | wols_: sorry, it's 2.4.27-3-386 . I didn't remember correctly |
| 21:08.52 | stew | Placid: that kernel is very very old. you should upgrade to a current kernel, /msg dpkg etch upgrade kernel |
| 21:09.01 | azeem | strk: then setup your ~/.xsession appropriately |
| 21:09.02 | Mr_Molez | by default is ffmpeg compiled with mp3lame ? |
| 21:09.09 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nicolas@dslb-084-058-242-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:09.13 | stew | err, dpkg is still gone |
| 21:09.14 | tarzeau | Mr_Molez: by default there's no lame |
| 21:09.21 | Placid | stew: Thanks a lot. |
| 21:09.22 | stew | Placid: http://dpkg.vireo.org/etch+upgrade+kernel |
| 21:09.22 | strk | azeem: ~/.xsession is the probhlem, 'switchdesk' took that boring part itself |
| 21:09.27 | Mr_Molez | tarzeau: oh ok thnx |
| 21:09.28 | streuner | Mr_Molez: look into sources (debian/rules) |
| 21:09.30 | azeem | strk: *shrug* |
| 21:09.36 | tarzeau | Mr_Molez: it should be listed here: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package |
| 21:09.42 | strk | azeem: you need to know *how* each desktop think is started, so read manual of each in turn etc... |
| 21:09.43 | Placid | Thanks all for the help. |
| 21:09.45 | h3sp4wn | Mr_Molez: try the ffmpeg from debian-multimedia |
| 21:09.49 | *** join/#debian sparr (i=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr) |
| 21:09.51 | azeem | strk: use a display manager like gdm, kdm, xdm or wdm if you want to have less fiddling |
| 21:09.56 | strk | azeem: while the 'switchdesk' command encoded them in some way |
| 21:10.06 | strk | azeem: I don't want to be *forced* to be in GUI mode |
| 21:10.10 | tarzeau | apt ping |
| 21:10.12 | apt | pong |
| 21:10.21 | *** part/#debian Mr_Molez (n=admin@openleague.org) |
| 21:10.26 | strk | so, am I the only one that ever used 'switchdesk' here ? |
| 21:10.29 | *** join/#debian soop (n=soop@waterflood.com) |
| 21:10.30 | azeem | strk: hit alt+ctrl+f1 |
| 21:10.34 | tarzeau | strk: i think i've used it too |
| 21:10.39 | azeem | strk: did you use it on Debian? |
| 21:10.40 | tarzeau | strk: years ago... but really. why? |
| 21:10.41 | soop | anyone dealt with this: |
| 21:10.43 | soop | Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code |
| 21:10.46 | soop | (1) |
| 21:10.48 | strk | azeem: redhat, I think |
| 21:10.51 | streuner | soop: stop |
| 21:10.59 | streuner | soop: use paster bot |
| 21:10.59 | soop | stop what? |
| 21:11.01 | streuner | !paste |
| 21:11.04 | azeem | strk: so check there and compile it yourself if you can't live without ti |
| 21:11.04 | soop | its only the one line |
| 21:11.05 | azeem | it |
| 21:11.05 | soop | :P |
| 21:11.07 | streuner | to flood the channel |
| 21:11.11 | soop | Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:11.12 | strk | azeem: maybe xdm isn't that bad after all (thinking about "family" ... ) |
| 21:11.14 | soop | thats it just one line |
| 21:11.16 | soop | :P |
| 21:11.16 | Placid | stew: i'm on sid though (well, unstable). is this safe to install the etch kernel? |
| 21:11.26 | azeem | soop: that cannot be the whole output |
| 21:11.28 | streuner | soop: that's not helpful, we need the whole error |
| 21:11.29 | tarzeau | strk: xdm just looks like 1980 |
| 21:11.29 | herfer | is uw-imap on debian by default ? |
| 21:11.33 | herfer | pre-installed ? |
| 21:11.34 | *** join/#debian dverzolla (n=dverzoll@200.186.101.19) |
| 21:11.41 | strk | xdm/wdm... whatever |
| 21:11.54 | *** join/#debian krassy (i=full@213.130.64.51) |
| 21:12.16 | wols_ | Placid: it is. it's less safe to run your outdated sarge kernel on sid than a etch one... |
| 21:12.24 | herfer | there is no uw-imap package for apt-get to work with, so I wonder if that is because it is already there ? |
| 21:12.26 | Placid | wols_: Ok, thanks again! :) |
| 21:12.32 | stew | Placid: that factoid wouldn't get you an etch kernel, it would get you a si kernel. i sent you to the etch upgrade kernel factoid instead of the sid upgrade factoid becuase the etch one contains information about upgrading from 2.4 which is what you are doing |
| 21:12.46 | stew | ^si^sid |
| 21:12.51 | soop | http://pastebin.ca/184392 |
| 21:12.53 | soop | there we go |
| 21:12.57 | *** join/#debian hjtv3x (n=hjtv3x@port-212-202-77-139.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 21:12.58 | soop | anyone dealt with that? |
| 21:13.02 | soop | http://pastebin.ca/184392 |
| 21:13.04 | wols_ | herfer: why do you want uw-imapd? |
| 21:13.08 | *** join/#debian penguin__ (n=penguin@adsl-69-211-109-115.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 21:13.12 | Placid | stew: right so I read. Are you able to explain what "make sure initramfs-tools is used instead of yaird to create the initrd." means? I've no idea about that |
| 21:13.15 | herfer | small simple system. no need for mailbox. |
| 21:13.33 | stew | Placid: actually i think that is automatic these days anyway |
| 21:13.46 | Placid | stew: ok, i'll give it a try. thanks! |
| 21:13.48 | *** part/#debian Placid (n=placid@unaffiliated/placid) |
| 21:13.52 | herfer | ugh... why is there no uw-imap package ? |
| 21:14.02 | strk | azeem: would wdm automatically see *any* installed "desktop environment" ? |
| 21:14.11 | azeem | strk: I hope |
| 21:14.12 | strk | (so I can test them) |
| 21:14.15 | strk | ok, thanks |
| 21:14.18 | azeem | at least kdm and gdm do that |
| 21:14.24 | stew | herfer: its uw-imapd |
| 21:14.26 | *** part/#debian fasta (n=fasta@zonnebloem.demon.nl) |
| 21:14.34 | herfer | yay! |
| 21:14.37 | herfer | <-- 31337 |
| 21:14.41 | streuner | azeem: did you see the error? |
| 21:14.41 | strk | azeem: nice, so now I've also another module to choose :/ (arg!) |
| 21:14.52 | strk | what about 'switchWDM' ;P |
| 21:14.58 | azeem | streuner: which error? |
| 21:15.04 | streuner | pastebin.ca |
| 21:15.14 | azeem | strk: come on, this cannot be so difficult |
| 21:16.58 | herfer | stew: thanks. |
| 21:16.58 | azeem | soop: paste the full output, including the command-line you issue |
| 21:18.03 | rysiek|pl | if anobody fancy giving a wee bit of advice, here's the problem: some time ago I have installed apache on my Debian Stable, then found out that php5 didn't make it to Stable, so compiled apache + mod_php from source. off course, forgot to apt-get remove apache before. since then apt keeps complaining about "Errors were encountered while processing: apache2-common (...) E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)". anybody any id |
| 21:18.14 | *** join/#debian Tarantulafudge (n=Michael@rrcs-70-61-249-146.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:19.01 | azeem | rysiek|pl: debug the postinst |
| 21:19.18 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@tor/regular/Piet) |
| 21:19.25 | karsten | !php5 |
| 21:19.28 | azeem | rysiek|pl: or paste the full output of the command you issue, including the command-line, to a pastebin |
| 21:19.31 | azeem | !paste |
| 21:19.31 | *** part/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@V4bd5.v.pppool.de) |
| 21:19.36 | azeem | like paste.debian.net |
| 21:19.37 | *** join/#debian RompeRatones (n=german@OL203-146.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 21:19.45 | karsten | Feh, dpkg is dead? |
| 21:19.46 | *** join/#debian energonicz_ (n=energoni@ga-cmng-u1-c6d-242.atlaga.adelphia.net) |
| 21:20.10 | *** join/#debian lucia (n=lucia@220.70.26.82) |
| 21:20.15 | SK|Asylum-gamese | when i type svc -d /home/asytest it does not kill the service, i have tried -t -k yadda yadda yadda, So what do you guys think? any ideas? |
| 21:20.20 | streuner | karsten: said 22:14 Connection timed out or such... |
| 21:20.46 | streuner | 22:07 Connection reset by peer |
| 21:20.46 | *** join/#debian tremor (n=tremor@pD9513AA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:21.29 | *** part/#debian RompeRatones (n=german@OL203-146.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 21:22.00 | *** join/#debian SkareCrow (n=skaredes@unaffiliated/skarecrow) |
| 21:22.09 | streuner | ravenbird, paste |
| 21:22.10 | ravenbird | paste.length >= 3 ? `/join #flood' : `/say paste.msg', or paste your output at http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:25.05 | *** join/#debian robin_sz (n=robin@adsl.redpoint.org.uk) |
| 21:25.27 | streuner | ravenbird, nikometer SK|Asylum-gamese |
| 21:25.27 | ravenbird | streuner: are you using Windows? |
| 21:25.33 | streuner | haha |
| 21:25.43 | beardy | @nickometer SkareCrow |
| 21:25.46 | ravenbird | 'SkareCrow' is 0.000% lame, beardy |
| 21:25.49 | beardy | @nickometer SK|Asylum-gamese |
| 21:25.51 | ravenbird | 'SK|Asylum-gamese' is 50.000% lame, beardy |
| 21:26.03 | streuner | beardy: oh well :-) |
| 21:26.10 | SK|Asylum-gamese | nice, having fun? Wanna answer my question now? :) |
| 21:26.35 | beardy | That's what you're paying for, so of course, sir. |
| 21:26.48 | streuner | beardy: hm, that explains why i got these kind of messages often (errors) :-) |
| 21:26.59 | beardy | !any ideas |
| 21:27.07 | beardy | damnit.. |
| 21:27.14 | stew | SK|Asylum-gamese: what is svc? |
| 21:27.30 | *** part/#debian Yurtle (n=YurtleTh@user-119b692.biz.mindspring.com) |
| 21:27.37 | streuner | SK|Asylum-gamese: first change your nick :-) |
| 21:27.53 | *** join/#debian krassy (i=krassy@213.130.64.60) |
| 21:28.07 | streuner | services are usually in /etc/init.d in debian and you start and stop them there |
| 21:28.10 | streuner | thanks |
| 21:28.45 | stew | serialkiller: i don't see a svc binary in debian. where did it come from? |
| 21:28.54 | *** join/#debian rysiek|pl (n=rysiek@213-238-78-133.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 21:29.05 | rysiek|pl | I'm back |
| 21:29.23 | rysiek|pl | azeem: sorry, minor router problems. here's the paste: http://paste.debian.net/13861 |
| 21:29.27 | krassy | i running debian testing and need to install linux printing package downloaded from Xerox site, but in requirements to do this - i must have a working Ghostscript installation. I did not find any package named Ghostscript or something . What is this ? What i have to do ? |
| 21:29.34 | *** join/#debian morphir (n=morphir@adsl-sna1-051.nett.nteb.no) |
| 21:29.53 | beardy | krassy: Why can't you use cups? |
| 21:29.54 | morphir | i want to chmod read access to a directory(for all visitors)...however it turns off read access automaticaly after a while...how is this..do I need to cron this command? |
| 21:29.56 | craigevil | krassy open Synaptic and search for Ghostscript, there are several packages |
| 21:29.58 | beardy | @search |
| 21:29.58 | ravenbird | try 'apt-cache search <regex>', find out what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
| 21:30.09 | serialkiller | stew : deamontools |
| 21:30.18 | *** join/#debian whm (n=whm@61.144.54.44) |
| 21:30.23 | azeem | # |
| 21:30.23 | azeem | Setting up apache2-common (2.0.54-5sarge1) ... |
| 21:30.23 | azeem | # |
| 21:30.24 | azeem | chown: `www-data': invalid user |
| 21:30.24 | *** kick/#debian [azeem!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 21:30.27 | krassy | i have installed cups but the xerox model is not listed |
| 21:30.31 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 21:30.40 | stew | !tell azeem about flood |
| 21:30.41 | stew | :P |
| 21:30.46 | rysiek|pl | d'oh :) |
| 21:30.48 | krassy | xerox phaser 3122 |
| 21:30.56 | azeem | !tell paste.debian.net about retarded |
| 21:31.08 | rysiek|pl | !tell /me about apt? :) |
| 21:31.22 | beardy | @pebkac |
| 21:31.22 | ravenbird | methinks pebkac is Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, or PEBCAK. PEBMAC |
| 21:31.31 | azeem | rysiek|pl: the chmod is the error |
| 21:31.36 | azeem | dunno why www-data doesn't exit |
| 21:31.38 | azeem | exist |
| 21:31.41 | stew | serialkiller: what distribution is daemontools from? |
| 21:31.59 | rysiek|pl | azeem: yeah. I know. the user is named "apache" on my system |
| 21:32.04 | krassy | craigevil:i allredy do this and did not find ghostcript packages |
| 21:32.07 | azeem | rysiek|pl: there you go |
| 21:32.17 | rysiek|pl | can't remember why I named it like this, though |
| 21:32.24 | azeem | rysiek|pl: why do you want to install apache2 now? |
| 21:32.50 | rysiek|pl | azeem: I don't. It's installed already, from sources. but apt keeps complaining about it |
| 21:33.06 | *** join/#debian aox (n=aox@paez.funmrd.gov.ve) |
| 21:33.16 | *** join/#debian fannagoganna (n=islam@tethys.astro.Virginia.EDU) |
| 21:33.17 | *** join/#debian MelkorD (n=morgoth@eha202.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:33.58 | *** join/#debian TechJournalist (n=tk421@d141-215-137.home.cgocable.net) |
| 21:34.05 | *** join/#debian rooTH (n=fthorns@217.160.223.105) |
| 21:34.09 | rooTH | hey there |
| 21:34.53 | rooTH | is there anyone who knows about the s390-port? |
| 21:35.10 | serialkiller | stew : its a 3rd party app to run services. has binarys such as svscan supervise and that |
| 21:35.21 | beardy | rooTH: Yes. |
| 21:35.25 | *** join/#debian Alam_Linux (n=Alam@c-24-218-227-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:35.27 | *** join/#debian martianixor (n=wanderer@196.218.71.171) |
| 21:35.28 | krassy | craigevil:i only find this - sylpheed-claws-ghostscript-viewer , but this package is for some mail client |
| 21:35.29 | *** part/#debian fannagoganna (n=islam@tethys.astro.Virginia.EDU) |
| 21:35.30 | beardy | @s390 |
| 21:35.38 | rooTH | beardy: cool :-) |
| 21:35.57 | *** part/#debian aox (n=aox@paez.funmrd.gov.ve) |
| 21:36.02 | *** join/#debian r3tex (n=r3tex@death.olf.sgsnet.se) |
| 21:36.12 | beardy | rooTH: (not me, but there must be someone) |
| 21:36.18 | serialkiller | stew : http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2002/05/09/sysadminguide.html |
| 21:36.18 | azeem | rysiek|pl: your apache-common is from apache2 |
| 21:36.33 | azeem | rysiek|pl: and it wants to install apache2-mpm-* there |
| 21:36.56 | rysiek|pl | o...k, so should I apt-get remove it maybe? |
| 21:36.57 | rooTH | beardy: i am trying to install debian inside of hercules. so far everything works, but the installation completely takes place inside the hercules-windows and i am not able to ssh into the system (though sshd is running, it just doesn't let me log in). the problem is that after the installation base-config messes up the hercules terminal :-( |
| 21:36.58 | *** join/#debian r3tex_ (n=r3tex@death.olf.sgsnet.se) |
| 21:37.11 | wols_ | krassy: gs |
| 21:37.11 | rooTH | beardy: oh :-) ok, i'll hope someone who could help me read it :-) |
| 21:38.38 | *** join/#debian bier_ (n=bier@pD954F0C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:39.08 | woodgrain | wols_, I've written a good /etc/network/interfaces ... reboot ... no network. any recommendations |
| 21:40.23 | wols_ | woodgrain: is the driver loaded after booting? paste your interfaces |
| 21:40.48 | pearl | wols_: why u dont put it in /etc/modules? :o) |
| 21:41.13 | wols_ | pearl: cause I don't have woodgrain's NIC |
| 21:41.16 | woodgrain | wols, how can one tell if the driver is loaded? ifconfig reveals something at eth0(?). |
| 21:41.31 | magnet | woodgrain: lsmod |
| 21:41.32 | pearl | wols_: your driver module, not woodgrain's |
| 21:41.32 | *** join/#debian aao_pwner (n=aao_pwne@c-24-21-91-140.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 21:41.38 | rysiek|pl | azeem: ok, so is there a way of tricking dpkg to think that the user "www-data" actually exists, and to make it use the user "apache" in it's stead? |
| 21:41.45 | pearl | woodgrain: lsmod? |
| 21:41.57 | wols_ | woodgrain: dmesg or lsmod |
| 21:42.19 | *** join/#debian MelkorD (n=morgoth@eha202.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:42.20 | pearl | on dmesg you can see if it is the right driver for your card :D |
| 21:42.26 | magnet | rysiek|pl: create user www-data with the same uid as apache |
| 21:42.44 | *** join/#debian strk (n=strk@ip-113-193.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 21:42.55 | rysiek|pl | something like: useradd -o -u <apache-user-uid> www-data |
| 21:43.00 | rysiek|pl | ok, trying |
| 21:43.06 | wols_ | woodgrain: does eth0 show with ifconfig -a or simply ifconfig? |
| 21:43.11 | magnet | rysiek|pl: same default group too |
| 21:43.15 | strk | gdm was the *wrong* thing :/ |
| 21:43.32 | strk | didn't even notice the gnustep one |
| 21:43.49 | h3sp4wn | woodgrain: tried using ethtool -i eth0 |
| 21:43.53 | woodgrain | wols_, I get eth0 with ifconfig and lo and eth0 with ifconfig -a |
| 21:43.53 | rysiek|pl | magnet: m'kay, could you also tell me what's the easiest way of checking what's the uid of a certain user? |
| 21:44.07 | magnet | id |
| 21:44.09 | magnet | :) |
| 21:44.18 | rysiek|pl | d'oh, right :) |
| 21:44.18 | wols_ | woodgrain: you fucked up your interfaces. paste it |
| 21:44.24 | krassy | beardy:If i have a correct .ppd file for my printer will the cups work without installing anything else from xerox ? |
| 21:44.36 | wols_ | woodgrain: you really want your lo to always show via ifconfig alone |
| 21:44.39 | stew | woodgrain: you should add lo to /etc/network/interfaces with an "auto lo" and "ifup lo" you need to have lo up. |
| 21:44.43 | woodgrain | wols_, I can't past nothing no internet on that machine. |
| 21:44.44 | beardy | krassy: It should work fine then yes. |
| 21:45.05 | woodgrain | stew ... I think you have it. trying now, report back. |
| 21:45.07 | wols_ | woodgrain: dhcp or static IP? |
| 21:45.19 | krassy | beardy:Is the .ppd file a driver ? |
| 21:45.19 | wols_ | woodgrain: and if you can't paste, type it. interfaces is not big |
| 21:45.20 | woodgrain | wols_, I was going static for the simplicitiy |
| 21:45.43 | woodgrain | wols_, I'm trying what stew recommended .... since I don't have lo in interfaces. |
| 21:45.45 | wols_ | krassy: go to linuxprinting.org |
| 21:46.01 | beardy | krassy: Sort of, it describes the printer, yes, think of it as a driver I guess. (correct me if I am wrong) |
| 21:46.15 | stew | woodgrain: are you trying to connect to the internet? did your isp give you a static ip address to use? |
| 21:46.27 | krassy | thanx guys |
| 21:46.58 | woodgrain | stew, on private network at home ... which will tolerate static or dynamic addressing. |
| 21:47.02 | magnet | most isp giving static ips give them via dhcp anyway :) |
| 21:47.40 | *** join/#debian |skyweb| (n=skyweb@host50-20.pool80117.interbusiness.it) |
| 21:47.40 | rysiek|pl | that solved it, thanks, azeem and magnet, a lot :) |
| 21:47.40 | woodgrain | stew, do I want ifup lo or iface lo |
| 21:47.57 | magnet | rysiek|pl: nice, np :) |
| 21:48.34 | stew | woodgrain: "ifup lo" is the command you are going to type on the command line after you configure interfaces (with iface lo...) |
| 21:49.12 | woodgrain | stew, i better do some reading here. thanks. can I add the ifup to a runtime or something so it starts automatically? |
| 21:50.04 | wols_ | woodgrain: auto lo and it will |
| 21:50.29 | beardy | @interfaces |
| 21:51.03 | *** join/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@83.212.201.43) |
| 21:51.14 | woodgrain | stew, where can I paste my interfaces file for you to see? |
| 21:52.02 | Ronin | woodgrain: pastebin.ca |
| 21:52.12 | rysiek|pl | gtg, cu all, thx again |
| 21:52.15 | *** part/#debian rysiek|pl (n=rysiek@213-238-78-133.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 21:53.03 | *** join/#debian Michael__ (n=Michael@rrcs-70-61-249-146.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:53.21 | woodgrain | stew, pastebin.ca .... I put the interfaces file I've made. |
| 21:53.29 | Ronin | woodgrain: we need the url :) |
| 21:54.12 | woodgrain | stew, Ronin http://pastebin.ca/184426 |
| 21:54.44 | beardy | ehm.. |
| 21:54.54 | wols_ | iface lo inet loopback |
| 21:55.00 | beardy | simonrvn: Why did ravenbird answer in a /msg? |
| 21:55.14 | wols_ | rest looks alright |
| 21:55.27 | woodgrain | wols_, thx trying now. |
| 21:56.07 | woodgrain | wols_, ifup lo works!@!!!!*&$@ |
| 21:56.31 | *** join/#debian fluvvell (n=barryc@222-153-26-185.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 21:56.32 | *** join/#debian Bertram (n=yohann@ADijon-256-1-143-150.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:57.50 | woodgrain | wols, do I type ifup every boot? put it in a script somewhere? |
| 21:58.00 | shwag | should I be able to use --dry-run on apt-get without getting a /var/lib/dpkg/lock error? |
| 21:58.14 | *** join/#debian GodFather (n=rcc@adsl-68-250-145-129.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 21:58.17 | wols_ | woodgrain: you already did. auto lo |
| 21:58.17 | fluvvell | my logrotate seems to have an entry for apache *and* apache2, does anyone know if the former is still necessary, the script looks to restart the process if dead - I'm curious as to others experience in this |
| 21:58.23 | beardy | @+interfaces |
| 21:58.23 | ravenbird | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 21:58.46 | *** join/#debian Seriii (n=amprapan@167.Red-83-39-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:58.51 | wols_ | fluvvell: if you don't have apache 1.x installed you obviosuly don't need to logrotate. what would create logs? |
| 21:59.03 | streuner | beardy: you want show us every single factoid of ravenbird? |
| 21:59.11 | *** join/#debian fas3r (n=fas3r@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-25-145.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:59.23 | beardy | @mhallsmite streuner |
| 21:59.37 | *** join/#debian i3d (i=i3dmaste@nat/ibm/x-1f316159cbfffb44) |
| 21:59.44 | streuner | at least a good cmd :-) |
| 22:00.00 | woodgrain | is there a debian version of gentoo links? |
| 22:00.06 | streuner | heh |
| 22:00.17 | Seriii | im looking for ftp client... any know a good ? |
| 22:00.24 | fluvvell | wols, I've just twigged to the fact, and checking dpkg -l discovered apache 1 is installed - don't recall installing it! never mind |
| 22:00.26 | streuner | links is in debian, if that is what you searching for |
| 22:00.27 | dondelelcaro | Seriii: lftp |
| 22:00.45 | *** join/#debian Halitherses (n=Halither@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:00.48 | Seriii | lftp is in oficial repository ? |
| 22:00.55 | streuner | sure |
| 22:01.02 | printk | Seriii: i like ncftp |
| 22:01.02 | Seriii | thx ppl |
| 22:01.05 | beardy | Search and you shall find. |
| 22:01.05 | *** join/#debian stranger_stone (n=opensour@85.138.114.190) |
| 22:01.07 | *** join/#debian eul- (n=zombi@zombi.force9.co.uk) |
| 22:01.08 | eul- | hey |
| 22:01.23 | *** join/#debian magyar (n=ondrish@206-248-159-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:01.29 | eul- | i just did apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:01.38 | *** join/#debian Mikelevel (n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:01.41 | *** join/#debian dpkg (n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 22:01.48 | eul- | and now X won't start.. it's complaining /dev/input/* core pointer device doesnt exist |
| 22:01.51 | eul- | and it doesnt :( |
| 22:01.56 | streuner | dpkg, hi |
| 22:01.56 | dpkg | salut, streuner |
| 22:02.25 | sussudio | %do dpkg |
| 22:02.29 | sussudio | !do badgers |
| 22:02.55 | beardy | !sing sussudio |
| 22:03.07 | eul- | so why has my mouse device gone from /dev/input ? |
| 22:03.27 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Enlighte@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 22:03.28 | SubStack | dpkg: moo |
| 22:03.28 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:03.35 | streuner | no debian system uses /dev/input |
| 22:03.51 | stew | streuner: mine does |
| 22:03.57 | SubStack | heh, mine does too |
| 22:04.01 | printk | I think he means /dev/input/mice or etc etc |
| 22:04.03 | stew | eul-: "modprobe mousedev" and list mousedev in /etc/modules |
| 22:04.08 | streuner | hm, iam not sure about that one :-) |
| 22:04.10 | eul- | yes, /dev/input/mice |
| 22:05.00 | eul- | stew: thats done it! but why is mousedev module failing to load? |
| 22:05.17 | Bertram | eul- : I had a problem with some modules not loaded at startup some time ago. Maybe it's the same for you ? |
| 22:05.33 | woodgrain | wols_, i did the netinst, fixed ehternet, how to finish full installation now? |
| 22:05.33 | Bertram | I had to modprbe them all again |
| 22:05.44 | eul- | yes, i think stew and Bertram are both right :/ |
| 22:05.46 | stew | eul-: nothing was trying to load it before you listed it in /etc/modules ; probably at one point hotplug was loading it for you, but you no longer have hotplug installed |
| 22:06.04 | stew | woodgrain: run "base-setup" |
| 22:06.04 | eul- | should i install hotplug? |
| 22:06.15 | streuner | sure |
| 22:06.20 | danieldg | if anyone knows a better question to ask X questions, tell me. Otherwise - I just upgraded to xorg7.1, and it's working fine, I'm just having some problems with rasing windows on the click of an active window. Not sure how to tell if it's an X problem or a kwin problem; it definately only occurs in 7.1 and not in 7.0 |
| 22:06.29 | Bertram | which linuxkernel eul- ? |
| 22:06.30 | stew | eul-: probably not. do you have udev installed? if so, what version? |
| 22:06.31 | *** join/#debian sysop_` (n=sysop@82-34-42-86.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:06.39 | woodgrain | stew, base-setup command not found |
| 22:06.51 | *** part/#debian strk (n=strk@ip-113-193.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 22:06.59 | stew | woodgrain: what version of debian did you install? |
| 22:07.16 | streuner | woodgrain: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 22:07.22 | eul- | dpkg -l says 0.100-1 |
| 22:07.22 | dpkg | No packages found matching says 0.100-1 |
| 22:07.26 | woodgrain | stew, should be 3.2r3 from netinstall kernel 26 |
| 22:07.32 | woodgrain | er 3.1r3 |
| 22:07.40 | streuner | no |
| 22:07.41 | *** join/#debian ldexter (n=ldexter@adsl-065-006-163-043.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:07.45 | stew | eul-: then no. don't install hotplug, it would conflict with your udev |
| 22:07.47 | streuner | base-setup is in stable |
| 22:08.13 | eul- | does udev sort of replace hotplug? |
| 22:08.13 | Bertram | eul-: yes |
| 22:08.19 | stew | woodgrain: then something went wrong with your install, (which isn't suprising seeing as your interfaces file wasn't setup for you) |
| 22:08.23 | Bertram | without the 'sort of' |
| 22:08.27 | eul- | hehe |
| 22:08.32 | woodgrain | streuner, it sez "ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Llibr la la la la |
| 22:08.33 | stew | eul-: yes, sort of |
| 22:08.43 | eul- | so this is a problem with udev not loading the module? |
| 22:08.43 | stew | woodgrain: install the base-config package and run base-config |
| 22:08.51 | stew | eul-: not really |
| 22:09.06 | Bertram | stew: not creating the dev node, that it ? |
| 22:09.21 | stew | Bertram: it is, its just that nothing is loading the module |
| 22:09.24 | Bertram | or some rights to it which are wrong ? |
| 22:09.28 | stew | no |
| 22:09.46 | stew | Bertram: it does the right thing when the module is loaded. its just that nothing is loading the module |
| 22:09.51 | stew | perhaps discover would? |
| 22:10.05 | eul- | so what is responsible for loading it? |
| 22:10.22 | stew | eul-: nobody |
| 22:10.32 | woodgrain | stew, in base-config ... cannot find http debian archive even though I fixed my eth0 |
| 22:10.36 | eul- | it was getting loaded before the upgrade though :/ |
| 22:10.41 | stew | eul-: if you list it in /etc/modules, then the module-init-tools package will load it |
| 22:10.43 | Bertram | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.53 | stew | no |
| 22:11.03 | eul- | so im guessing /etc/modules.conf got changed or something? |
| 22:11.05 | stew | eul-: yes, hotplug was loading it |
| 22:11.08 | stew | no |
| 22:11.13 | eul- | i never had hotplug installed before |
| 22:11.16 | streuner | you don't touch modules.conf usually |
| 22:11.28 | stew | eul-: you didn't? how did you install debian? |
| 22:11.48 | stew | eul-: are you a gnome user? |
| 22:11.49 | eul- | debian etch net install |
| 22:11.52 | eul- | yes |
| 22:12.02 | Bertram | yes, you modprobe things and you get them auto-loaded for th next time. Maybe you should try modconf |
| 22:12.52 | Bertram | dpkg modconf |
| 22:12.53 | dpkg | modconf is a tool to configure/add/delete kernel modules, and at the same time it will add to /etc/modules |
| 22:13.26 | Bertram | !sing yes |
| 22:13.53 | eul- | its just if udev replaces hotplug, why isnt it loading the module like hotplug did? |
| 22:13.54 | *** join/#debian magyar (n=ondrish@206-248-159-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:14.21 | *** join/#debian brick (n=brick@user-11fab58.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 22:14.25 | woodgrain | base-config problem ... one or more packages failed to install. (is there a log for this??) |
| 22:14.44 | *** join/#debian Unryu (n=Shigun@h62.228.40.162.ip.alltel.net) |
| 22:14.47 | Bertram | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.54 | streuner | eul-: udev is in development |
| 22:14.59 | *** join/#debian magyar (n=ondrish@206-248-159-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:15.32 | eul- | ok |
| 22:15.37 | eul- | anyway i think x is working now, so thanks |
| 22:15.39 | streuner | eul-: if you need a special module, just put it into /etc/modules |
| 22:15.45 | eul- | im gonna go read up on udev i think |
| 22:16.14 | wols_ | woodgrain: try /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 22:16.34 | eul- | streuner: would appear its already in there |
| 22:17.00 | streuner | eul-: ok, check out /var/log/dmesg (log) |
| 22:17.28 | streuner | eul-: it should give you additional infos what went wrong... |
| 22:17.35 | eul- | now X is loading but my mouse isnt moving |
| 22:17.39 | eul- | *sigh* |
| 22:17.40 | woodgrain | wols_, maybe I should just totally start over -- do I need to wipe my disk? |
| 22:17.42 | *** join/#debian m_a_hannon (n=mark@c210-49-208-103.sunsh5.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:17.54 | streuner | eul-: usually the wrong protocol... |
| 22:18.00 | asdfg | weed |
| 22:18.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 662] by debhelper |
| 22:18.02 | asdfg | for free! |
| 22:18.04 | asdfg | query! |
| 22:18.16 | streuner | don't spam us |
| 22:18.28 | asdfg | thats what i go to school for |
| 22:18.28 | *** join/#debian Cabal (n=bconway@c-24-34-57-27.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:18.46 | wols_ | woodgrain: I would format the parttion when reinstalling yes |
| 22:18.59 | *** join/#debian Entheogen (n=shiva@nk-as01-l033.crnagora.net) |
| 22:19.11 | Entheogen | guys |
| 22:19.14 | Entheogen | what does this mean? |
| 22:19.18 | Entheogen | astral@shiva:/media$ obexfs -u 1 photo |
| 22:19.18 | Entheogen | If USB doesn't work setup permissions in udev or run as superuser. |
| 22:19.30 | Entheogen | how can i set up permissions in udev? |
| 22:19.43 | woodgrain | wols_, is restarting the install because base-config can't find http or ftp packages for apt crazy? |
| 22:19.45 | wols_ | run it as root. easier |
| 22:19.46 | streuner | so root works? |
| 22:19.49 | soop | ok, i'm back |
| 22:19.53 | soop | entheogen, nice nick :P |
| 22:19.54 | Entheogen | root works |
| 22:19.58 | soop | anyone seen this before: |
| 22:20.00 | soop | http://pastebin.ca/184448 |
| 22:20.01 | Entheogen | thanks soop :) |
| 22:20.02 | tarzeau | anyone has a wish for wmaker package in debian? |
| 22:20.18 | streuner | !maint wmaker |
| 22:20.27 | dpkg | wmaker: Marcelo E. Magallon <mmagallo@debian.org> |
| 22:20.33 | Entheogen | so, how can I set up these permissions in udev?? |
| 22:20.52 | wols_ | Entheogen: there is pretty much no docs for udev afaik |
| 22:20.53 | streuner | tarzeau: are you co-maint for wmaker? |
| 22:20.55 | wols_ | run it as superuser |
| 22:20.56 | asdfg | streuner, kurt? wuahahah :> |
| 22:21.15 | tarzeau | streuner: magallo is MIA, i'm working on an updated package (well i've got one fixing bugs here and there) |
| 22:21.25 | streuner | asdfg: go back to #chaos* :-) |
| 22:21.30 | Entheogen | but i dont wanna run it as root because it is something that i'll use pretty much in future ;) |
| 22:21.54 | asdfg | * You are now talking in #chaos* |
| 22:22.00 | eul- | "PNP: PS/2 doesn't have AUX irq: using default 12" |
| 22:22.03 | asdfg | nobody is there, streuner |
| 22:22.07 | eul- | thats pretty much all i can see in regards to the mouse |
| 22:22.13 | *** join/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:22.27 | *** join/#debian strk (n=strk@ip-113-193.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 22:22.53 | *** join/#debian gimmulf (n=gimmulf@unaffiliated/gimmulf) |
| 22:23.02 | strk | I just apt-get installed gnome-desktop-manager (to put an end to my struggle for a family-friendly desktop) -- unfortunately (testing/unstable) my gnome starts w/out a window manager :/ any hint ? |
| 22:23.03 | gimmulf | Hi, hmm when i type ps aux i get: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed! |
| 22:23.19 | *** join/#debian systemadmin_ (n=systemad@d-65-175-253-216.metrocast.net) |
| 22:23.26 | systemadmin_ | Hi all@ |
| 22:23.27 | Bertram | strk : Did you install gdm ? |
| 22:23.30 | systemadmin_ | question |
| 22:23.30 | soop | has anyone seen these errors ... |
| 22:23.32 | soop | http://pastebin.ca/184448 |
| 22:23.39 | systemadmin_ | how can i create a pid file for my application? |
| 22:23.47 | strk | Bertram: was installed automatically, yes |
| 22:24.12 | Bertram | strk: chose gdm as start manager ? |
| 22:24.15 | k-man | my nfs mounts seem to have hung... and I ran df, and now df is hung, how can i kill it? (kill -9 doesn't work) |
| 22:24.20 | Bertram | (dpkg-reconfigure gdm) |
| 22:24.20 | strk | Bertram: if I ask gdm for a fvwm session it works fine, GNOME doesn't (no window manager, just top and bottom thing, icons on desktop and menu, but no window manager) |
| 22:24.28 | Bertram | ahh |
| 22:24.38 | Heston | k-man, shutdown -h now |
| 22:24.46 | strk | Bertram: Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdm. |
| 22:24.49 | k-man | Heston, thats the only way? |
| 22:24.59 | strk | then I run gdm manually to test... and has that problem |
| 22:25.09 | *** join/#debian redir (n=robrien@70.88.128.138) |
| 22:25.10 | strk | (also runnign 'startx' shows the problem, no need for gdm) |
| 22:25.25 | strk | Bertram: I didn't want gdm, btw |
| 22:25.25 | Bertram | strk: That's not linked to gdm, I think |
| 22:25.42 | strk | Bertram: I don't think so, nope. do you know the name of the GNOME window manager ? |
| 22:25.48 | azeem | strk: do you have /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager? |
| 22:25.51 | azeem | strk: metacity |
| 22:25.59 | Heston | k-man, if you can get the nfs mount to close the connection, it should unhang |
| 22:26.05 | *** join/#debian ghatak (n=Heeman1@87-194-42-158.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:26.17 | azeem | strk: apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment if you want to have GNOME |
| 22:26.18 | k-man | Heston, how would i get it to do that? |
| 22:26.28 | strk | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 28 00:16 x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/metacity |
| 22:26.36 | strk | azeem: is that GNOME wm ? |
| 22:26.43 | azeem | strk: what? |
| 22:26.44 | Heston | k-man, i forget the details exactly, sorry |
| 22:26.49 | strk | azeem: metacity |
| 22:26.52 | azeem | strk: eh, yes |
| 22:26.54 | azeem | as you asked |
| 22:27.21 | magyar | i have no luck in getting JMicron controller working under 2.6.18. Anyone using them? |
| 22:27.26 | soop | soo anyone? |
| 22:27.37 | soop | dpkg errors ... # that the name "Shiva" means "the one who purifies the one that repeats His name." |
| 22:27.49 | azeem | soop: huh? |
| 22:27.52 | soop | err |
| 22:27.52 | Bertram | magyar : JMicron. that reminds me of a sata hd, is that it ? |
| 22:27.53 | soop | this |
| 22:27.54 | soop | http://pastebin.ca/184448 |
| 22:27.56 | soop | hahahaha |
| 22:27.57 | streuner | magyar: and what kind of controller is that? |
| 22:28.03 | magyar | Bertram: roger |
| 22:28.08 | soop | azeem: http://pastebin.ca/184448 |
| 22:28.12 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-125-19-51-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 22:28.17 | soop | forgot i had something else in the c/p :P |
| 22:28.23 | magyar | streuner: sata/pata |
| 22:28.43 | strk | azeem: ok, if I run it manually (metacity) it works fine... so any idea about why it doesn't run from xsession ? |
| 22:28.47 | magyar | i have a DVD-ROM connected, but i see no module being loaded in dmesg |
| 22:28.57 | *** join/#debian eimajenthat (n=jamie@cpe-70-123-133-94.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 22:28.59 | magyar | i dont even know which module is for JMicron |
| 22:29.03 | soop | magyar: can you boot off of it? |
| 22:29.04 | azeem | soop: run /etc/init.d/and start |
| 22:29.09 | streuner | magyar: did it work in the former kernels? |
| 22:29.10 | azeem | does that result in an error? |
| 22:29.15 | magyar | soop: yeap |
| 22:29.31 | eimajenthat | how do I get a list of packages I've installed since loading the system? |
| 22:29.47 | magyar | streuner: nope, it is only implemented in 2.6.18, as i read the logs by Cox |
| 22:29.53 | Bertram | magyar: Is it a asrock motherboard ? |
| 22:29.54 | strk | Xsession.d ? arg... |
| 22:30.05 | magyar | Bertram: close, Asus p5b |
| 22:30.06 | soop | azeem, same problem |
| 22:30.17 | azeem | soop: ok, this is #367997 I guess |
| 22:30.18 | streuner | magyar: hm, so you use one of Cox's kernels? |
| 22:30.18 | *** part/#debian Entheogen (n=shiva@nk-as01-l033.crnagora.net) |
| 22:30.19 | Bertram | magyar: sata_via. Did you try it ? |
| 22:30.26 | soop | huh? |
| 22:30.27 | azeem | soop: run /etc/init.d/and stop; apt-get -f install |
| 22:30.39 | *** join/#debian lftl_ (n=spanky@adsl-072-148-023-022.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:31.03 | magyar | streuner: i use debian build, but in rc3 the module was in except it didn't read pata ports |
| 22:31.20 | soop | azeem: thanks, what was the problem? |
| 22:31.30 | *** join/#debian n3kl (n=n3kl@71-33-173-246.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:31.30 | azeem | soop: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367997 |
| 22:31.37 | streuner | magyar: 2.6.18 is in stable? |
| 22:31.40 | Bertram | azeem: /etc/init.d/and ? What is that service ? |
| 22:31.47 | streuner | !dbugs 367997 |
| 22:31.52 | dpkg | #367997:N[and] and installation script exit error if and already running; Fri, 19 May 2006 06:18:05 UTC |
| 22:32.05 | magyar | Bertram: thats the module? I need the pata portion of the chip |
| 22:32.21 | *** join/#debian dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 22:32.35 | magyar | streuner: sid |
| 22:32.37 | *** join/#debian eul- (n=zombi@zombi.force9.co.uk) |
| 22:32.46 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-68-126-177-31.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 22:32.51 | streuner | magyar: well, read BTS and if needed file a bugreport then. |
| 22:32.53 | eul- | i can modprobe mousedev, and startx, but now my mouse isnt moving :( |
| 22:33.15 | Bertram | eul-: What kind of mouse is it ? |
| 22:33.18 | eul- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.18 | magyar | :) |
| 22:33.19 | dererk | eul-, have you load psmouse/usbniyse = |
| 22:33.19 | streuner | eul-: change the protocol |
| 22:33.25 | dererk | eul-, have you load psmouse/usbmouse ? |
| 22:33.28 | *** join/#debian nervozan (n=dado@cp471192-a.schoo1.lb.home.nl) |
| 22:33.36 | eul- | ill try those two |
| 22:33.38 | eul- | i think its usbmouse |
| 22:34.00 | dererk | it's just one, It depends in which usb or ps2 mouse you have eul- |
| 22:34.01 | Bertram | magyar: pata portion, you mean a firmware or some driver ? |
| 22:34.18 | eul- | its usb.. whats 'mousedev' for? |
| 22:34.23 | eul- | do i have to remove it? |
| 22:34.35 | nervozan | hi there, i messed something up with fdisk...the NTFS partition is still there and can be mounted without errors. but it appears to be emtpy, even tho df -h says that most of the partition space is in use. any suggestions how to fix this/recover the files? |
| 22:34.40 | magyar | Bertram: it has a pata controller, a sata controler and a external sata storage |
| 22:34.43 | Bertram | dererk: maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is useful, too ? |
| 22:34.47 | streuner | eul-: mousedev is usually what you need for USB |
| 22:34.59 | magyar | Bertram: is there a kernel module to modprobe? |
| 22:35.01 | eul- | streuner: do i only need one loaded? |
| 22:35.12 | streuner | eul-: for USB yes |
| 22:35.20 | streuner | eul-: only mousedev |
| 22:35.39 | Bertram | magyar: try modprobe sata_via. It is the good one. try also libata or ata i don't remember |
| 22:35.54 | streuner | !tell eul- about usbmouse |
| 22:35.59 | *** join/#debian wilcox (i=wilco@a-machine-on-the-internet.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:36.05 | magyar | Bertram: thanks |
| 22:36.12 | streuner | eul-: keep in mind, this factoid is if you don't use udev |
| 22:36.24 | *** join/#debian solca (n=solca@solcadesk.galileo.edu) |
| 22:36.26 | soop | azeem: wicked cool, thanks ;) |
| 22:36.43 | Xorm | azeem? |
| 22:36.49 | azeem | Xorm: ? |
| 22:36.55 | Xorm | That's like one letter off my real name. |
| 22:37.02 | Xorm | ehh, maybe two. |
| 22:37.22 | eul- | i am using udev |
| 22:37.29 | azeem | 00:29 [OPN] -!- ircname : Ashim T. L. |
| 22:37.33 | Xorm | yeah |
| 22:37.35 | Bertram | Well, good night all |
| 22:37.45 | streuner | eul-: well, the protocol and other settings should be the same... |
| 22:37.46 | eul- | only mousedev seems to create a /dev/input/mice, but od doesnt display anything when i move my mouse |
| 22:37.52 | Xorm | the ee is so that people don't get confused on the pronunciation. |
| 22:38.04 | eul- | if i get the wrong driver will it still create the device? |
| 22:38.14 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:38.41 | streuner | udev create the device for you |
| 22:38.56 | streuner | but you need the right driver as well :-) |
| 22:39.03 | eimajenthat | Can anyone tell me how to get a list of the packages I've installed with APT on a given system? |
| 22:39.12 | *** part/#debian solca (n=solca@solcadesk.galileo.edu) |
| 22:39.13 | *** join/#debian di (n=di@ip-113-193.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 22:39.23 | streuner | eimajenthat: dpkg -l |
| 22:39.29 | eul- | yeah.. well.. only on loading mousedev do i get the device in /dev ... usbmouse doesnt make the /dev entry appear |
| 22:39.33 | MatBoy | dpkg -l |
| 22:39.35 | soop | anyone here use gedit? |
| 22:39.40 | eimajenthat | streuner: thanks |
| 22:39.48 | EdLin | !polls |
| 22:39.48 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 22:39.54 | gimmulf | How do i find out what port sendmail uses? |
| 22:40.08 | streuner | gimmulf: just a wild guess, 25 :-) |
| 22:40.09 | h3sp4wn | gimmulf: almost certainly 25 |
| 22:40.19 | gimmulf | oki |
| 22:40.22 | soop | gimmulf: nmap localhost |
| 22:40.33 | gimmulf | dont have nmap :) |
| 22:40.34 | MatBoy | gimmulf, and otherwise... look into the configfile of sendmail :) |
| 22:40.41 | streuner | gimmulf: telnet <your-server> 25 |
| 22:40.41 | soop | apt-get install nmap |
| 22:40.44 | soop | then |
| 22:40.44 | MatBoy | gimmulf, telnet to it |
| 22:40.45 | soop | ;) |
| 22:41.06 | MatBoy | gimmulf, locally can also be done |
| 22:41.16 | MatBoy | telnet 127.0.0.1 25 |
| 22:41.48 | MatBoy | streuner, hehe, you were faster :) |
| 22:42.00 | wilcox | or use netstat command |
| 22:42.03 | streuner | MatBoy: abrotman isn't here ;-) |
| 22:42.22 | MatBoy | streuner, so ? should I care ? I don't think so :) |
| 22:42.31 | streuner | (he is usually faster than me...) |
| 22:42.45 | MatBoy | streuner, so ? is it a contest ? for him maybe, not for me :) |
| 22:42.47 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@c-71-230-51-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:42.48 | eul- | well im confused... it seems that it is mousedev.. /dev/input/mice gets created, X will start only with mousedev loaded too... but od /dev/input/mice isn't reporting anything |
| 22:43.01 | streuner | MatBoy: just a joke ;-) |
| 22:43.08 | MatBoy | streuner, hehe, I know you :P |
| 22:43.27 | *** join/#debian chemaja (n=chemaja@203-206-162-101.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 22:43.34 | MatBoy | streuner, het can also do a netstat -a btw |
| 22:43.41 | MatBoy | s/het/he |
| 22:44.04 | MatBoy | gimmulf, you can also do a nestat -a and look where sendmail is listening on |
| 22:44.19 | h3sp4wn | eul-: /dev/input/mice is not a directory |
| 22:44.20 | soop | anyone ever try printing from gedit on 11x17 landscape? |
| 22:44.38 | *** join/#debian timday (n=timday@bottlenose.demon.co.uk) |
| 22:44.39 | streuner | eul-: try 'mdetect' |
| 22:44.39 | gimmulf | oki MatBoy thanks |
| 22:44.47 | MatBoy | NP |
| 22:45.07 | wilcox | i personally find netstat quicker |
| 22:45.11 | wilcox | :P |
| 22:45.19 | gimmulf | MatBoy: hmm doesnt seem like it list the ports |
| 22:45.21 | wilcox | and more reliable |
| 22:45.34 | MatBoy | gimmulf, I just looked also |
| 22:45.43 | *** join/#debian DaveyB (n=Dave@cpc1-linc3-0-0-cust360.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:45.44 | MatBoy | just telent on localhost on post 25 |
| 22:45.49 | MatBoy | *telnet |
| 22:45.52 | gimmulf | ok |
| 22:46.06 | asdfg | telnet is better than ssh! |
| 22:46.21 | streuner | go into bed |
| 22:46.27 | asdfg | is really is |
| 22:46.34 | asdfg | it |
| 22:46.35 | asdfg | :E |
| 22:46.52 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@71-154-139-61.ded.pacbell.net) |
| 22:46.53 | *** join/#debian bunnyy (i=BuNnYy@unaffiliated/bunnyy) |
| 22:47.00 | *** part/#debian bunnyy (i=BuNnYy@unaffiliated/bunnyy) |
| 22:47.15 | eul- | streuner: not any good :/ |
| 22:47.22 | eul- | not sure if it works on usb mice |
| 22:47.32 | streuner | eul-: hm, true |
| 22:47.35 | wilcox | asdfg |
| 22:47.40 | wilcox | joking right? |
| 22:47.41 | stew | asdfg: if you don't have any debian related questions, please keep quiet or move on |
| 22:47.43 | *** join/#debian DaB|ade (n=linuxp2p@217-250-64.0508.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 22:48.02 | asdfg | why do i just have to ask questions? |
| 22:48.09 | abrotman | you can answer them too |
| 22:48.14 | asdfg | i helped him |
| 22:48.14 | *** join/#debian fs-a_ (n=fs@host81-158-51-122.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:48.17 | stew | asdfg: you don't have to. you have to stay on topic, and not troll, however |
| 22:48.18 | wilcox | O RLY? |
| 22:48.52 | asdfg | because telnet is better than ssh |
| 22:48.52 | *** join/#debian blackelf_ (n=blackelf@bty82.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:48.53 | abrotman | seems a good way to get kicked |
| 22:48.53 | DaveyB | I need some help with sound: I have this sound card: 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) :When I try and install it with alsaconf it shows me the card and edits the modprobe.conf accordingly. It says the driver is configured and states it wil prepare the card for playing, but when it does this it spews this error out 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI T |
| 22:48.53 | DaveyB | echnologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01), 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) Any ideas? |
| 22:48.53 | abrotman | asdfg: no .. it's not |
| 22:48.53 | asdfg | why kicked? |
| 22:48.54 | asdfg | so, i tried it |
| 22:48.54 | eul- | brb |
| 22:48.54 | wilcox | cause you are trolling |
| 22:48.54 | asdfg | :P |
| 22:48.56 | asdfg | no im not |
| 22:49.00 | stew | everyone just drop it |
| 22:49.16 | abrotman | DaveyB: that's an error ? |
| 22:49.22 | wilcox | stew: ok |
| 22:49.37 | grendal_prime | hey this slony1 packages requires libc62.3.6 and i have 2.3.2, anyone know the difference? |
| 22:49.40 | *** join/#debian Khellendros (n=JD@about/copyleft/pdpc.active.HellDragon) |
| 22:49.47 | abrotman | grendal_prime: .4 |
| 22:49.51 | grendal_prime | and would it be safe to upgrade that on stable.. |
| 22:49.51 | DaveyB | No this is the error sorry: whilst it is saving the mixer settings it spews this: /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1194: No soundcards found... |
| 22:49.57 | grendal_prime | thanks abrotman |
| 22:50.05 | grendal_prime | the math was killing me |
| 22:50.20 | DaveyB | This is what it says about saving (the line above the error) Saving the mixer setup used for this in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state |
| 22:50.26 | abrotman | grendal_prime: that's the libc6 from etch/sid |
| 22:50.27 | *** join/#debian bunnyy (i=BuNnYy@unaffiliated/bunnyy) |
| 22:50.35 | bunnyy | who is owner or dpkg ? |
| 22:50.39 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 22:50.43 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-68-126-197-8.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 22:50.45 | grendal_prime | so probably not a good idea.. |
| 22:50.46 | abrotman | bunnyy: of dpkg ? |
| 22:50.48 | streuner | dpkg, who owns you? |
| 22:50.49 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 22:50.51 | abrotman | grendal_prime: no .. probably not |
| 22:50.54 | bunnyy | or* |
| 22:51.12 | MatBoy | !owner |
| 22:51.12 | dpkg | dondelelcaro owns me |
| 22:51.16 | abrotman | bunnyy: why do you want ot know? |
| 22:51.17 | grendal_prime | im looking for a slony1 pkg that will run on sarge...need to backport it maybe |
| 22:51.18 | wilcox | lol @ streuner/dpkg |
| 22:51.33 | bunnyy | ok thanks |
| 22:51.34 | abrotman | bunnyy: ? |
| 22:51.42 | bunnyy | sorry for my ask |
| 22:51.45 | bunnyy | thanks again |
| 22:51.46 | MatBoy | hey streuner that is funny |
| 22:51.50 | *** join/#debian Daveman (n=dave@pool-141-150-17-69.mad.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:51.50 | streuner | wilcox: a simple implementation of the user ... |
| 22:52.01 | abrotman | seems to be a common problem in here lately |
| 22:52.12 | abrotman | Daveman: hi! |
| 22:52.47 | *** join/#debian opqdonut (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.customer.academica.fi) |
| 22:52.49 | MatBoy | bunnyy, you always have to ask what you want to know... asking is free... you always can get no, or nothing :) |
| 22:52.58 | *** part/#debian b0xy|MacPro (n=pixelbak@h103.87.141.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 22:53.07 | wilcox | hehe |
| 22:53.13 | abrotman | wtf |
| 22:53.18 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Enlighte@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 22:53.20 | bunnyy | what ? |
| 22:53.27 | abrotman | noone else understands him either |
| 22:53.34 | *** join/#debian brothers (n=brothers@user-0ce2keo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:53.41 | bunnyy | I have work bye for now |
| 22:53.44 | *** join/#debian GecKo (n=gecko@203-114-182-8.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz) |
| 22:53.48 | streuner | have fun |
| 22:53.50 | wilcox | oh bye bye bunnyy |
| 22:53.53 | MatBoy | bunnyy, you excused you for you question, never do... there don;t exist stupid questions ;) |
| 22:53.53 | wilcox | :) |
| 22:54.12 | streuner | abrotman: deal with it |
| 22:54.19 | abrotman | at least nvz speaks english :) |
| 22:54.45 | *** part/#debian bunnyy (i=BuNnYy@unaffiliated/bunnyy) |
| 22:54.47 | *** join/#debian [Hazard] (i=h4zard@ver73-1-82-239-38-135.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:54.50 | *** join/#debian wwallace_ (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.53 | *** join/#debian eul- (n=zombi@zombi.force9.co.uk) |
| 22:54.56 | wilcox | :P |
| 22:54.56 | eul- | i give in |
| 22:55.07 | wwallace_ | Host/Kernel/OS "MP3J" running Linux 2.6.18-slh-smp-2 i686 [ KANOTIX 2006 Easter ] |
| 22:55.08 | wwallace_ | CPU Info (1) AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ 512 KB cache flags( nx lm ) clocked at [ 2010.306 MHz ] |
| 22:55.11 | wwallace_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.12 | abrotman | !ops wwallace |
| 22:55.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abrotman complains about: wwallace |
| 22:55.14 | wwallace_ | Videocard nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6600] XFree86 4.3.0 [ 1016x716 ] |
| 22:55.16 | wwallace_ | Network cards nVidia CK804 Ethernet Controller, at port: b000 |
| 22:55.18 | wwallace_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.19 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 22:55.20 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] by stew |
| 22:55.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 22:55.27 | abrotman | !beer stew |
| 22:55.39 | wilcox | hmm |
| 22:55.40 | streuner | damn, abrotman is faster another time :( |
| 22:55.49 | wilcox | !beer wilcox |
| 22:55.51 | jelly-home | wtf? |
| 22:55.55 | abrotman | streuner: i've been keeping an eye on him all day .. he's a recurring issue |
| 22:56.07 | Daveman | hey abrotman :) |
| 22:56.13 | streuner | abrotman: thanks for the excuse :-) |
| 22:56.27 | abrotman | streuner: excuse for you being slow? |
| 22:56.33 | streuner | sure |
| 22:56.33 | Daveman | abrotman, what's the latest? |
| 22:56.48 | abrotman | Daveman: i think my comprehension skills are on the decline |
| 22:56.58 | jelly-home | !latest |
| 22:56.59 | dpkg | latest is, like, not meaningful. Latest when? Latest in what distribution? Latest stable or latest development? Refer to software by version number - that's what it's for. Refer to debian by its codename or other identifiable feature: 'woody' (3.0), 'sarge' (3.1), 'etch' (testing), 'sid' (unstable). |
| 22:57.00 | streuner | abrotman: no, !beer stew |
| 22:57.03 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:57.30 | wilcox | etch testing? |
| 22:57.31 | wilcox | hmm |
| 22:57.35 | wilcox | intresting |
| 22:57.42 | abrotman | ye s.. etch is currently the codename for testing |
| 22:57.53 | Daveman | abrotman :[ |
| 22:58.14 | abrotman | Daveman:maybe i'm just getting old :) |
| 22:58.15 | *** join/#debian marsje_ (n=anonymou@mrcl.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:58.33 | Daveman | abrotman, maybe :P |
| 22:58.41 | marsje_ | Hi. I'm trying to remove imapproxy, but it fails: Stopping IMAP proxy: invoke-rc.d: initscript imapproxy, action "stop" failed. |
| 22:58.42 | *** join/#debian LoRez (i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez) |
| 22:58.42 | Daveman | abrotman, senility setting in? :p |
| 22:59.04 | marsje_ | how can I kill this imapproxyd process once and for all? |
| 22:59.16 | abrotman | marsje_: is there a stop function in the init script ? |
| 22:59.21 | abrotman | Daveman: probably |
| 22:59.23 | marsje_ | yes |
| 22:59.26 | marsje_ | but it fails |
| 22:59.27 | Daveman | :) |
| 22:59.33 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@tor/regular/Piet) |
| 22:59.34 | Unryu | Anybody got a clue on how to do etch and nvidia drivers? My old method doesnt seem to work, where I just added the unstable repos temporarily |
| 22:59.39 | eul- | cant believe my install broke, just like that :/ |
| 22:59.52 | *** join/#debian tolecnal (n=tolecnal@25.80-203-130.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:00.00 | Daveman | abrotman, at least much of your wisdom appears to be intact :) |
| 23:00.01 | abrotman | !tell Unryu about etch nvidia |
| 23:00.08 | abrotman | Daveman: beardy picks on me! |
| 23:00.09 | DaveyB | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.18 | DaveyB | oops |
| 23:00.19 | DaveyB | sorry |
| 23:00.21 | asdfg | !tell abrotman about etch ls |
| 23:00.25 | gimmulf | how do i check that my sendmail is configured to send mails not just locally? |
| 23:00.30 | stew | asdfg: why? |
| 23:00.31 | abrotman | asdfg: please don't |
| 23:00.41 | *** join/#debian nanotube (n=lubos@d220-236-217-32.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:00.42 | Daveman | :\ |
| 23:00.43 | abrotman | stew: didn't you just unban that hostmask a few hours ago? |
| 23:00.43 | asdfg | how to get help? |
| 23:00.54 | stew | asdfg: ask a debian related question |
| 23:00.55 | abrotman | guess not |
| 23:00.58 | MatBoy | gimmulf, do you want to use another mailserver a smtp ? |
| 23:01.05 | marsje_ | stop in /etc/init.d/imapproxy does: start-stop-daemon --oknodo --stop --quiet --pidfile=$PIDFILE \ --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS 2>&1 | grep warning > /dev/null |
| 23:01.07 | MatBoy | *as |
| 23:01.09 | asdfg | !tell asdfg about help |
| 23:01.12 | abrotman | gimmulf: echo "blah" | mail youraccount@yahoo.com |
| 23:01.24 | asdfg | dpkg help? |
| 23:01.24 | stew | asdfg: please /msg the bot |
| 23:01.24 | dpkg | enter /msg dpkg help in your IRC client |
| 23:01.35 | abrotman | shocker .. he's also in #ubuntu |
| 23:01.41 | nanotube | can anyone point me how to get my wifi card working: 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20) |
| 23:01.43 | abrotman | erm -de |
| 23:01.43 | asdfg | no, im not |
| 23:01.46 | asdfg | hah |
| 23:01.47 | streuner | abrotman: well |
| 23:01.52 | abrotman | well what? |
| 23:02.05 | asdfg | well well... |
| 23:02.06 | asdfg | :) |
| 23:02.08 | abrotman | marsje_: yes .. but does the initscript have a stop action ? |
| 23:02.08 | Unryu | abrotman: I have those repos added to my apt.list, however trying to apt-get install the drivers says it cant find them still (yes, I did apt-get update) |
| 23:02.19 | streuner | well, i didn't want to mention that, but iam not sure if that explains his behavior |
| 23:02.20 | abrotman | Unryu: paste the error somewhere ? |
| 23:02.25 | gimmulf | abrotman: hmmm doesnt seem to work, but i want sendmail up and running so it can send mail not just locally |
| 23:02.28 | DaveyB | This is my full alsa problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3876 |
| 23:02.34 | marsje_ | abrotman: stop) |
| 23:02.34 | marsje_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.34 | marsje_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.34 | marsje_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.34 | *** kick/#debian [marsje_!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 23:02.37 | abrotman | streuner: it's better than me saying "Oh .. he's german" :) |
| 23:02.47 | asdfg | oh |
| 23:02.48 | asdfg | linux nazis |
| 23:02.49 | *** join/#debian marsje_ (n=anonymou@mrcl.xs4all.nl) |
| 23:02.50 | asdfg | :E |
| 23:02.54 | abrotman | gimmulf: if it doesn't work .. sendmail is misconfigured |
| 23:02.59 | marsje_ | back |
| 23:03.03 | abrotman | marsje_: /msg dpkg paster |
| 23:03.08 | Unryu | abrotman: I cant, currently, as its on my computer, and im on my laptop, but I believe I got it |
| 23:03.13 | *** join/#debian Cybo-mobile (n=Underdog@adsl-70-137-5-255.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 23:03.23 | abrotman | Unryu: network doesn't work on the other one ? |
| 23:03.37 | Daveman | :) |
| 23:03.39 | streuner | abrotman: hm, it took not that long to see a difference between US people..., you should see them too :-) |
| 23:03.46 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 23:03.51 | *** part/#debian Cybo-mobile (n=Underdog@adsl-70-137-5-255.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 23:03.55 | Xorm | syn |
| 23:03.56 | marsje_ | abrotman: there is a new imapproxy package which probably fixed it, but I can't install it because I can't stop it |
| 23:03.57 | Xorm | syn ack |
| 23:04.01 | Xorm | ack ack |
| 23:04.13 | abrotman | marsje_: paste the whole error .. and the init script |
| 23:04.14 | Daveman | :p |
| 23:04.14 | abrotman | !paster |
| 23:04.15 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 23:04.25 | peterS | Xorm: we get it. you've heard of TCP/IP. |
| 23:04.35 | Xorm | lulz. |
| 23:04.53 | Unryu | abrotman: No, it works, but it doesnt have a GUI currently |
| 23:05.04 | abrotman | Unryu: install irssi-text .. irc from the box |
| 23:05.04 | gimmulf | abrotman: hmm what configure file will i need to change? |
| 23:05.24 | Unryu | abrotman: Im ok without it =P |
| 23:05.29 | *** join/#debian mentor (n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 23:05.31 | ghatak | my hard drive has bad sectors. what should i do ? |
| 23:05.34 | abrotman | gimmulf: i haven't run sendmail in years .. but i suspect it's in /etc/mail/ or /etc/sendmail/ |
| 23:05.37 | marsje_ | abrotman: I have to figure out how to paste first |
| 23:05.48 | abrotman | you got it pasted in here just fine :) |
| 23:05.49 | *** join/#debian Bhavesh (n=bhavesh@c-24-98-157-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:05.59 | abrotman | ghatak: back up your data .. buy a new one |
| 23:06.14 | ghatak | abrotman: suggest a cheap place :P |
| 23:06.27 | abrotman | ghatak: there are tons of sites to tell you that .. or ask #newegg |
| 23:06.29 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 23:06.30 | abrotman | #hardward |
| 23:06.34 | abrotman | #hardware |
| 23:06.39 | abrotman | doh |
| 23:06.43 | ghatak | :) ok ok |
| 23:06.49 | *** join/#debian yel (n=yassine@xdsl-213-168-120-148.netcologne.de) |
| 23:06.59 | MatBoy | ghatak, go for raid too :) it saves you downtime :) |
| 23:07.09 | abrotman | Unryu: we'll need to see yours sources.list |
| 23:07.20 | abrotman | it does? |
| 23:07.23 | *** join/#debian nehoksan (n=asdf@i577BD68B.versanet.de) |
| 23:08.35 | *** join/#debian raf256 (n=raf256@unaffiliated/raf256) |
| 23:08.41 | streuner | nehoksan: hau endlich ab, es reicht! :-) |
| 23:09.11 | marsje_ | abrotman: pasted: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3877 |
| 23:09.42 | abrotman | marsje_: what if you try to stop it manually ? |
| 23:09.48 | marsje_ | how? |
| 23:09.59 | abrotman | marsje_: /etc/init.d/imapproxy stop |
| 23:09.59 | *** join/#debian b0xy|MacPro (n=pixelbak@h103.87.141.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 23:10.09 | MatBoy | Will the whole cyclus for new Debian releases be more "planned" now ? Etch will become stable in December or something (if I was right), so every 10 months a release or something ? or will that never happen ? |
| 23:10.20 | Unryu | abrotman: Already said I got it alittle bit back =P |
| 23:10.31 | DaveyB` | having problems with installing a sound card, problems with alsaconf to precise: Instead of spewing lines out in the channel I have uploaded it to: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3876 can someone take a look and perhaps shed some light on whats going on |
| 23:10.35 | abrotman | MatBoy: it releases when it's ready .. there is no true release schedule |
| 23:10.36 | *** join/#debian eul- (n=zombi@zombi.force9.co.uk) |
| 23:10.40 | abrotman | Unryu: oh ok |
| 23:10.51 | eul- | for anyone that was trying to help me, i realised i need pci=routeirq passing to the kernel |
| 23:10.57 | eul- | as soon as i did that everything worked fine |
| 23:11.07 | stew | MatBoy: no, that will never happen, they will only release when there are 0 RC bugs. so if the bug count (currently > 200) is still not zero in December it won't release in december |
| 23:11.12 | *** join/#debian andrewy (n=boo@user-387c6rm.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:11.16 | streuner | eul-: nobody ever would say this you you ;-) |
| 23:11.17 | abrotman | DaveyB`: try unloading all sound related modules/stopping any sound daemons .. and trying again |
| 23:11.27 | marsje_ | abrotman: that doesn't give an error, but when I run apt-get, it will use the invoke-rc.d automatically |
| 23:11.29 | eul- | streuner: huh? :P |
| 23:11.31 | abrotman | stew: have you placed your bet ? |
| 23:11.51 | streuner | eul-: well IRQ problems for mouses are usually not that common... |
| 23:11.53 | DaveyB` | abrotman, how do i do that? |
| 23:11.58 | stew | abrotman: i haven't |
| 23:12.00 | abrotman | DaveyB`: modprobe -r |
| 23:12.10 | abrotman | stew: mine is my birthday .. next year :) |
| 23:12.12 | *** join/#debian fzn (n=fzn@88.234.119.69) |
| 23:12.20 | eul- | streuner: i think its to do with the acpi irq routing, or something |
| 23:12.21 | abrotman | (i made the bet a while ago) |
| 23:12.25 | eul- | i dont really know what im talking about |
| 23:12.29 | eul- | it wasnt just the mouse i dont think |
| 23:12.34 | andrewy | i'm trying to use a custom kernel (2.6.18) with udev. I've installed udev, but whenever my pc boots i get the errors "mount: unknown filesystem type 'devfs'" "pivot_root: No such file or directory" and "/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file |
| 23:12.35 | abrotman | marsje_: so it's already stopped ? |
| 23:12.40 | andrewy | does anyone know how to fix that? |
| 23:12.41 | eul- | it was just irq assignment on the whole |
| 23:12.45 | systemadmin_ | how can i list the process id number only when doing ps ax |
| 23:12.52 | abrotman | awk |
| 23:13.04 | stew | !etch pool 1 is also stew: 2007-01-15 |
| 23:13.04 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 23:13.09 | *** part/#debian wwallace_ (n=wwallace@c-68-83-128-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:13.12 | DaveyB` | abrotman, wrote modprobe -r and tried alsaconf again and it still didn't work |
| 23:13.13 | abrotman | !etch pool 1 |
| 23:13.13 | dpkg | well, etch pool 1 is caphuso=WIR/SIYH/RSN! luna35=2006-12-24 sid=2006-12-20 bibe=2007-02-15 bloom=once_in_a_blue_moon_like_last_time HelmutG=2007-12-01 Eulex=2007-05-17 Arsion=2006-04-15 scarynetworkguy=2006-01-03 streuner=2006-06-06 mdh=2006-09-11 antgel=2006-12-05 asg=2006-12-07 resiak=2007-04-21 greycat=2007-07-07 abrotman, chealer=2007-10-02 r3v=2008-07-23 simonrvn=when_the_cows_come_home, or stew: 2007-01-15 |
| 23:13.13 | marsje_ | abrotman: no, it keeps on running... when you kill it, it will start again automatically |
| 23:13.15 | abrotman | wow |
| 23:13.20 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, correct but i know its print something |
| 23:13.23 | abrotman | marsje_: that's an evil daemon |
| 23:13.26 | systemadmin_ | cant rembermber the systex |
| 23:13.33 | abrotman | oh .. man ps ? |
| 23:13.43 | marsje_ | abrotman: yes... so my question is, what to do against evil daamons? |
| 23:13.52 | MatBoy | abrotman, stew, ah thanks ! I was wondering because everybody was so exiting about the fast release of Etch... It;s not that I need it... but I thought Debian was a little bit going that way... comparing to another big Distro that I will not name :) |
| 23:14.01 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@71-154-139-61.ded.pacbell.net) |
| 23:14.02 | systemadmin_ | liek ps ax | awk {print 1 } something liek that |
| 23:14.06 | abrotman | MatBoy: how old are you ? |
| 23:14.09 | marsje_ | abrotman: debian:~# ps ax | grep imapproxyd |
| 23:14.10 | marsje_ | 31951 pts/5 S+ 0:00 grep imapproxyd |
| 23:14.15 | abrotman | systemadmin_: ps aux | awk '{print $1}' |
| 23:14.23 | abrotman | marsje_: kill it |
| 23:14.37 | marsje_ | abrotman: oops... |
| 23:14.38 | abrotman | systemadmin_: erm . ps ax .. whatever |
| 23:14.39 | stew | MatBoy: is 1.5 years fast? i guess they did a good job of setting the bar low with sarge |
| 23:14.44 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:14.47 | Xorm | hmm... |
| 23:14.54 | DaveyB` | abrotman, ps shows me: 4413 pts/1 00:00:00 bash : 14986 pts/1 00:00:00 bash : 18488 pts/1 00:00:00 ps |
| 23:15.01 | abrotman | i don't care how often .. i just want it done right |
| 23:15.03 | *** join/#debian ph1gm3nt (n=brian@c-69-242-185-73.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 23:15.11 | marsje_ | abrotman: it's too late.. I'm blind... I guess it IS killed |
| 23:15.16 | abrotman | DaveyB`: when you remove modules ? |
| 23:15.20 | abrotman | marsje_: doh! |
| 23:15.23 | MatBoy | stew, faster than with sarge |
| 23:15.33 | abrotman | marsje_: you can just make the prerm script exit 0 |
| 23:15.45 | DaveyB` | abortman as you told me to do modprobe -r |
| 23:15.46 | *** join/#debian bedo3887 (n=Uno@200.107.42.85) |
| 23:15.51 | marsje_ | abrotman: just the stop script fails and then apt-get upgrade fails |
| 23:16.16 | abrotman | DaveyB`: huh ? modprobe -r <modulename> |
| 23:16.18 | ph1gm3nt | I'm having trouble getting a 2.6.8 kernel to boot on sarge |
| 23:16.21 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, humm thats lists 2, 1 for the process i want and 1 for the ps ax command i typed, how can i only grab the first one? |
| 23:16.22 | *** part/#debian bedo3887 (n=Uno@200.107.42.85) |
| 23:16.29 | DaveyB` | abrotman, what modules do I need to remove <--- serious n00b |
| 23:16.30 | nanotube | wahat can I use to to compile and install new modules.. I forgot the name of it... |
| 23:16.31 | abrotman | marsje_: is this on sarge ? |
| 23:16.45 | streuner | eul-: anyway, you're welcome. |
| 23:17.02 | eul- | :) |
| 23:17.13 | marsje_ | abrotman: yes... or what used to be sarge... |
| 23:17.26 | abrotman | systemadmin_: ps ax | grep -v ps | awk '{print $1}' |
| 23:17.33 | abrotman | what used to be? |
| 23:17.51 | abrotman | marsje_: you can edit hte prerm script for imapproxy to just exist |
| 23:17.53 | abrotman | exit |
| 23:18.04 | marsje_ | abrotman: I put "exit 0" in the stop script... seems to fool apt-get and continue |
| 23:18.27 | abrotman | marsje_: good plan :) |
| 23:18.52 | *** join/#debian cdleonard (n=leo@p16.pub.ro) |
| 23:18.52 | MatBoy | stew, do you really need faster releases ? |
| 23:18.58 | systemadmin_ | abrotman , this is what i am doing ps ax |grep /home/asytest | awk '{print $1}' |
| 23:19.05 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, your listed both as well |
| 23:19.07 | DaveyB` | abrotman, which modules should I remove? |
| 23:19.17 | abrotman | systemadmin_: ps ax |grep /home/asytest | grep -v ps | awk '{print $1}' |
| 23:19.22 | *** part/#debian cdleonard (n=leo@p16.pub.ro) |
| 23:19.30 | abrotman | DaveyB`: lsmod | grep snd .. all of those |
| 23:19.33 | marsje_ | abrotman: anyway, I never know what system I have... I once installed it as sarge... |
| 23:19.39 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, tried that 2 it brought back both |
| 23:19.50 | streuner | MatBoy: faster releases doesn't hurd, but its a *HARD* job for developers... |
| 23:19.52 | abrotman | !paster |
| 23:19.53 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 23:19.54 | abrotman | systemadmin_: show me |
| 23:19.56 | stew | MatBoy: no, i don't, other than the fact that the longer it is between releases the more likely it is that i'm having to help someone in here that is running testing/unstable that shouldn't be |
| 23:20.03 | abrotman | streuner: hurt .. hurd never releases :) |
| 23:20.13 | streuner | hehe |
| 23:20.32 | khermans | how cna i create a /dev/md0 (raid array) block device so that mdadm won't choke? |
| 23:20.43 | *** join/#debian Dead_EyEs (n=Dead_EyE@65.199.205.214) |
| 23:20.52 | marsje_ | abrotman: bingo: "Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/imapproxy ..." |
| 23:21.04 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (n=kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 23:21.04 | khermans | needs to look like brw-rw---- 1 root disk 9, 0 Sep 27 15:10 /dev/md0 |
| 23:21.14 | abrotman | MAKEDEV ? |
| 23:21.26 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, you get that? |
| 23:21.28 | streuner | MatBoy: sarge showed it, debian can whenever needed releases. |
| 23:21.29 | eul- | nanotube: module-assistant ? |
| 23:21.36 | MatBoy | streuner, stew, very true indeed, but I used before sarge already on servers because the old stable was too old in my opinion. I would not recommend it to use testing for servers or somthing like that, but it's very stable |
| 23:21.40 | *** join/#debian fRSTGUMP (n=jt@adsl-068-209-155-054.sip.btr.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:21.41 | abrotman | systemadmin_: if you tried to /msg it .. it didn't come over |
| 23:21.42 | DaveyB` | abrotman, done that, now there's nothing when I lsmod | grep snd. What should I do now? alsaconf? |
| 23:21.49 | abrotman | DaveyB`: try it again |
| 23:21.51 | ph1gm3nt | what commands do I need to run after make menuconfig in order to get my 2.6.8 kernel to boot on Sarge with grub bootloader? |
| 23:21.55 | systemadmin_ | ok |
| 23:22.05 | systemadmin_ | abrotman, you in #flood? |
| 23:22.31 | DaveyB` | abrotman, same error |
| 23:22.48 | abrotman | systemadmin_: moment |
| 23:22.55 | abrotman | DaveyB`: ask #alsa |
| 23:22.57 | MatBoy | ph1gm3nt, if you need it, I have a nice tut for you about it |
| 23:23.35 | DaveyB` | abrotman, when i use ask #alsa i get bash: ask: command not found |
| 23:23.47 | Xenguy | eh |
| 23:23.48 | ph1gm3nt | MatBoy: that would be great. I feel like such a n00b since I've been away from linux for a while |
| 23:24.05 | DaveyB` | lol you mean the room abrotman sorry |
| 23:24.05 | Xenguy | heh |
| 23:24.10 | streuner | !room |
| 23:24.10 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 23:24.22 | MatBoy | ph1gm3nt, never mind :) you have to get sticked to some things indeed... I'm happy with the linux-images now ;) |
| 23:24.25 | *** part/#debian marsje_ (n=anonymou@mrcl.xs4all.nl) |
| 23:24.29 | MatBoy | ph1gm3nt, I will PM it to you |
| 23:24.31 | *** join/#debian Flimflam` (n=philb@host86-135-58-221.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:24.31 | abrotman | DaveyB`: /j #alsa |
| 23:24.35 | abrotman | it's a channel :) |
| 23:24.56 | *** join/#debian r3tex (n=r3tex@death.olf.sgsnet.se) |
| 23:25.33 | abrotman | ph1gm3nt: you don't have to do much of anything .. what's the problem ? |
| 23:25.53 | abrotman | DaveyB`: or .. perhaps check the BTS |
| 23:25.58 | gimmulf | Having a wierd problem, cand send emails from my server ... tried: echo "hello" | mail email@adress.com .. doesnt work :/ |
| 23:26.02 | gimmulf | please help |
| 23:26.22 | azeem | gimmulf: why do you run a mail server? |
| 23:26.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:26.52 | MatBoy | gimmulf, just try it with mail |
| 23:27.14 | MatBoy | gimmulf, so forget the part in front of it |
| 23:27.19 | Ronin | azeem: who doesnt :) |
| 23:27.21 | gimmulf | azeem: im currently developing on the server and the framework which im developing in is using sendmail, and when i try to send mails from my programs it doesnt send any |
| 23:27.40 | abrotman | really? sendmail ? |
| 23:27.43 | azeem | gimmulf: did your server work in the past? |
| 23:27.48 | azeem | gimmulf: which version of Debian? |
| 23:28.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 655] by debhelper |
| 23:28.02 | gimmulf | azeem: well its a kind of new server havent used it for mailing before |
| 23:28.06 | abrotman | anyone else notice that when irc.debian.org moved .. #flood got way way smaller ? |
| 23:28.16 | azeem | gimmulf: check your server's log files |
| 23:28.34 | simonrvn | yes |
| 23:28.46 | gimmulf | azeem: im using newest version |
| 23:28.49 | abrotman | i'm not sure if it's related or not |
| 23:28.57 | *** join/#debian debian__br_dcC (n=junior@201.79.43.135) |
| 23:29.06 | azeem | gimmulf: of what? |
| 23:29.20 | MatBoy | gimmulf, on what debian version was it ? |
| 23:29.22 | azeem | gimmulf: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say? |
| 23:29.24 | simonrvn | indirectly |
| 23:29.39 | gimmulf | azeem: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 23:29.42 | streuner | indirectly? |
| 23:29.48 | *** join/#debian webfreak (i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net) |
| 23:29.54 | MatBoy | ph1gm3nt, already downloaded it ? |
| 23:29.56 | abrotman | streuner: that #flood got smaller when irc.d.o moved |
| 23:29.58 | gimmulf | azeem: the mail logs shows nothing |
| 23:30.19 | abrotman | syslog or messages ? |
| 23:30.24 | streuner | abrotman: most people are on many servers, it should be another reason then... |
| 23:30.40 | *** join/#debian junix (n=ameyer@24-107-192-115.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 23:30.52 | gimmulf | azeem: all mail logs are empty |
| 23:31.06 | MatBoy | abrotman, points to the mail.log I guess |
| 23:31.14 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 23:31.24 | abrotman | he can still check syslog and messages |
| 23:31.34 | azeem | gimmulf: what does "dpkg -l sendmail" say? |
| 23:31.45 | ph1gm3nt | MatBoy: yeah, got the tut. reading now |
| 23:32.02 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 23:32.10 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.18, snapshot: 2.6.18-git8, 2.4: 2.4.33.3, prepatch: 2.4.34-pre3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.18-mm1 |
| 23:32.17 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 23:32.26 | MatBoy | abrotman, yes, but most people check that because they think it's directly related to the MTA... not a bad idea :) |
| 23:32.29 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (n=Rusty1@cpe-72-226-105-88.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:32.34 | abrotman | also .. mail.error .. mail.info |
| 23:32.36 | gimmulf | azeem: ouch i have the terminal language in swedish, how do i chanche the language? dpkg-reconfigure something? |
| 23:32.36 | MatBoy | ph1gm3nt, nice reading than ! |
| 23:32.37 | *** part/#debian ph1gm3nt (n=brian@c-69-242-185-73.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 23:32.39 | abrotman | basically .. mail.* |
| 23:32.48 | *** join/#debian delire (n=delire@p54BCE70E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:33.01 | azeem | gimmulf: export LANG=C |
| 23:33.43 | gimmulf | azeem: http://pastie.caboo.se/15219 |
| 23:34.18 | azeem | gimmulf: so you don't have sendmail installed |
| 23:34.37 | gimmulf | azeem: but its located in /usr/sbin/ |
| 23:34.37 | azeem | gimmulf: what does "ls /usr/sbin/sendmail" say? |
| 23:34.38 | *** join/#debian gravity (n=david@dsl092-079-075.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:34.50 | azeem | ah, gravity |
| 23:34.51 | streuner | gravity: ! |
| 23:35.00 | gimmulf | azeem: it says: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 23:35.02 | gravity | uh oh |
| 23:35.04 | MatBoy | gimmulf, do you have a sendmail.cf ? in /etc/mail ? and a /etc/init.d/sendmail ? |
| 23:35.23 | stew | gimmulf: what does "dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail" say? |
| 23:35.28 | *** join/#debian SimGuy (n=simguy@weyoun.simguy.net) |
| 23:35.32 | gravity | I must have broken something |
| 23:35.39 | delire | what would be the most common ports and protocols used for mail retrieval and dispatch, across all OS's? i'm writing a packet filter and would like to know. |
| 23:35.46 | gimmulf | stew: |
| 23:35.50 | SimGuy | does anyone know of an unofficial sarge disc with 2.6.17 kernel on it? |
| 23:35.55 | streuner | heh, when didn't you broke something :-/ ? |
| 23:35.56 | gimmulf | stew: exim4-daemon-light: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 23:36.01 | jelly-home | MatBoy: each and every MTA in debian has /usr/sbin/sendmail. |
| 23:36.13 | gimmulf | MatBoy: dont have them |
| 23:36.17 | MatBoy | jelly-home, also when nothing is installed ? |
| 23:36.29 | streuner | gravity: don't tell us some hidden features ;-) |
| 23:36.30 | SimGuy | I've found a 2.6.16 disc but the forcedeth driver is unhappy |
| 23:36.39 | *** join/#debian roberts (n=pinky@66.251.27.251) |
| 23:36.40 | MatBoy | gimmulf, when you so a apt-get install sendmail ? |
| 23:36.48 | gravity | streuner: You guys tend to find them well before I do |
| 23:36.49 | MatBoy | s/so/do |
| 23:36.56 | streuner | hehe, true :-) |
| 23:37.06 | gimmulf | MatBoy: i havent |
| 23:37.12 | jelly-home | MatBoy: I said what I meant. If you have a MTA installed, you have /usr/sbin/sendmail, so that's no indication of what is the actual MTA present. |
| 23:37.24 | gimmulf | MatBoy: i'll try to install it too se if it works |
| 23:37.44 | MatBoy | jelly-home, yeah I understand you but it seems that he has no MTA installed |
| 23:37.58 | abrotman | gravity: i have a bone to pick with you! |
| 23:38.06 | streuner | gravity: hm, iam running actually a new install of sid and it runs like a charm... |
| 23:38.07 | MatBoy | SimGuy, I heard today that the latest Etch-CD had it ? |
| 23:38.08 | gimmulf | MatBoy: when i type sendmail -v it says something about Exim mail transfer agent |
| 23:38.17 | MatBoy | gimmulf, yep default |
| 23:38.26 | jelly-home | MatBoy: hmm? nothing != exim4-daemon-light |
| 23:38.30 | MatBoy | when you install sendmail, exim will be removed automaticly |
| 23:38.30 | abrotman | gimmulf: so you're actually running exim ? |
| 23:38.33 | *** join/#debian craigevil (n=craig@24-176-42-53.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com) |
| 23:38.39 | gimmulf | MatBoy: ahha ok |
| 23:38.42 | abrotman | gimmulf: are you required to run sendmail ? |
| 23:38.43 | MatBoy | abrotman, default fomr installation |
| 23:38.44 | SimGuy | MatBoy: I'm installing for a customer that doesn't want etch... he wants sarge |
| 23:38.53 | gimmulf | abrotman: yes seems like it, thought sendmail was there when i saw it in /usr/sbin |
| 23:39.04 | MatBoy | SimGuy, you can install a linux-image ? or compile it ? |
| 23:39.07 | abrotman | gimmulf: nah .. but exim is probably setup for local delivery only |
| 23:39.12 | abrotman | MatBoy: yes .. i know .. thanks |
| 23:39.14 | SimGuy | problem is this hardware is too new for sarge unless I can get the kernel on there somehow |
| 23:39.15 | *** join/#debian eyeris (n=drewv@24-177-121-193.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 23:39.18 | *** join/#debian Professor_Wut (n=gimp@adsl-156-233-244.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:39.28 | MatBoy | abrotman, just to make him it clear |
| 23:39.37 | MatBoy | abrotman, he is following every line |
| 23:39.39 | abrotman | !tell SimGuy about sarge 2.6.16 |
| 23:39.45 | MatBoy | SimGuy, is there a reason for the .17 kernel ? |
| 23:40.03 | SimGuy | MatBoy: the forcedeth driver on 2.6.16 still doesn't like the network device |
| 23:40.12 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:40.21 | gimmulf | MatBoy: do i need to worry about thoose errors: http://pastie.caboo.se/15222 |
| 23:40.39 | abrotman | yes you probably do |
| 23:40.50 | abrotman | though it says it set it up |
| 23:41.07 | abrotman | !tell SimGuy about custom netinst |
| 23:41.12 | *** join/#debian alexscott (n=alexscot@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 23:41.13 | *** join/#debian erichapkido (n=eric@69-168-13-24.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 23:41.28 | MatBoy | gimmulf, normally you don't get them |
| 23:41.42 | MatBoy | gimmulf, but look if those files are really created |
| 23:41.50 | MatBoy | gimmulf, you can always try if it works |
| 23:41.53 | woodgrain | stew, thanks for you help earlier. I re-installed completely off the netinst .... now my new instal is fetching packages automatically -- like a total champ. so thanks, do know what I did wrong earlier. |
| 23:41.59 | abrotman | gimmulf: honestly .. i'd try to get by with exim if you can |
| 23:42.03 | eyeris | I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade. In some applications (e,g, KDM, Firefox but not Konqueror or XChat), all the fonts in the menu (and in Firefox's directory index view) are hidden (except for the underline for keyboard shortcuts) until I mouse-over them. What packages should I start searching for bug reports in the BTS? |
| 23:42.08 | jelly-home | gimmulf: you should set up local-host-names, and resolve the ERROR |
| 23:42.18 | MatBoy | gimmulf, or remove senmail again with a --purge and reinstall it after a autoclean |
| 23:42.23 | *** join/#debian junix-other (n=ameyer@24-107-192-115.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 23:42.30 | erichapkido | For the past few days I have been having trouble with linux-image-2.6.17-2-486. For some reason it keeps dying when it trys to install. I did "dpkg --configure" and it comes up with exit status 2. |
| 23:42.42 | DaveyB` | How do I upgrade all alsa packages? |
| 23:42.47 | abrotman | erichapkido: what's the error ? |
| 23:42.51 | abrotman | DaveyB`: uname -a |
| 23:43.04 | jelly-home | I've already seen Debian's sendmail setup create slightly barfed configuration. |
| 23:43.13 | MatBoy | erichapkido, do you use raid ? |
| 23:43.22 | erichapkido | abrotman: i cant tell what it is, let me post the log |
| 23:43.26 | erichapkido | MatBoy: no |
| 23:43.31 | craigevil | eyeris try: rm -rf /etc/fonts ; apt-get install --reinstall --yes -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew fontconfig fontconfig-config |
| 23:43.33 | DaveyB` | abrotman, Linux foo 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:43.37 | MatBoy | erichapkido, OK |
| 23:43.47 | gimmulf | MatBoy: did that now and installed it again without any errors but when i try to use mail i get: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 67 |
| 23:43.58 | MatBoy | erichapkido, but you can boot with the old kernel as I can see ? |
| 23:44.01 | erichapkido | http://pastebin.ca/184509 |
| 23:44.02 | SimGuy | thanks for the tips... |
| 23:44.11 | *** part/#debian SimGuy (n=simguy@weyoun.simguy.net) |
| 23:44.13 | erichapkido | Matboy: It just never updates, it always dies |
| 23:44.14 | MatBoy | erichapkido, uhm... understand I mean |
| 23:44.20 | gimmulf | MatBoy: and sendmail.cf is created |
| 23:44.28 | abrotman | gimmulf: does sendmail deliver mail |
| 23:44.28 | MatBoy | erichapkido, updates ? how do you mean ? |
| 23:44.48 | erichapkido | matboy: everytime i use aptitude or apt-get it goes back to installing it and dies twice |
| 23:44.50 | jelly-home | gimmulf: this framework you're using, does it really require sendmail, or does it just want to have a working /usr/sbin/sendmail binary? |
| 23:45.46 | abrotman | erichapkido: does /sbin/update-grub exist ? |
| 23:45.46 | MatBoy | erichapkido, installing what ? |
| 23:45.47 | gimmulf | jelly-home: hmm i dont know, but its rubyonrails |
| 23:45.47 | *** part/#debian Dead_EyEs (n=Dead_EyE@65.199.205.214) |
| 23:45.47 | erichapkido | abrotman: no |
| 23:45.47 | MatBoy | gimmulf, I don;t know that error... you have a hostname already set.. to make a proper start |
| 23:45.47 | abrotman | see .. it's not just me! |
| 23:45.47 | gimmulf | jelly-home: however i need a working sendmail |
| 23:45.48 | abrotman | erichapkido: are you using grub ? |
| 23:45.48 | erichapkido | abrotman: yes |
| 23:45.48 | DaveyB` | abrotman, Linux foo 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux, that my kernel etc from uname -a |
| 23:45.52 | abrotman | erichapkido: so yu're using grub .. but /sbin/update-grub doesn't exist |
| 23:46.01 | jelly-home | gimmulf: I suggest installing postfix or exim of you don't know what you're doing. |
| 23:46.06 | gimmulf | MatBoy: MatBoy well im not using localhost in /etc/hostname |
| 23:46.08 | abrotman | DaveyB`: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 .. note the part about backports.org |
| 23:46.17 | eyeris | craigevil, that ran ok, but the problem still exists. Will I have to restart X to see the effects? |
| 23:46.20 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 23:46.21 | erichapkido | abrotman: nope |
| 23:46.23 | abrotman | jelly-home: MatBoy just got him to install sendmail :) |
| 23:46.30 | abrotman | erichapkido: can you reinstall the grub package ? |
| 23:46.38 | erichapkido | abrotman: i guess |
| 23:46.39 | craigevil | maybe just do ctrl+alt+back space |
| 23:46.55 | jelly-home | abrotman: meh, the web framework SURELY doesn't need real sendmail, but just something to send...mail. |
| 23:47.05 | MatBoy | jelly-home, no postfix.. sendmail is easier in the basics for only sending mail |
| 23:47.08 | erichapkido | abrotman: ook, i did "aptitude install grub" and it said it was installing it |
| 23:47.14 | jelly-home | MatBoy: lol |
| 23:47.27 | erichapkido | abrotman: well linux-image is set up also |
| 23:47.44 | craigevil | eyeris you can also try doing in kde, appearances, fonts, uncheck antialiasing, click apply, check antialiasing, click apply |
| 23:47.55 | MatBoy | jelly-home, yeah, just amke some settings in the sendmail.cf and you can send to the outside world... you can mek sendmail complex indeed :) |
| 23:48.00 | abrotman | jelly-home: i agree |
| 23:48.01 | MatBoy | amke |
| 23:48.04 | MatBoy | damn |
| 23:48.05 | MatBoy | make |
| 23:48.06 | abrotman | erichapkido: everything all good ? |
| 23:48.07 | jelly-home | MatBoy: I wouldn't bestow sendmail on anyone without a strong reason. |
| 23:48.15 | erichapkido | abrotman: seems like it |
| 23:48.27 | abrotman | erichapkido: now is the time on sprockets when we dance |
| 23:48.35 | erichapkido | abrotman: i think its because for some reason aptitude removed a bunch of my stuff for no reason at all |
| 23:48.44 | abrotman | erichapkido: i'm sure it had a reason |
| 23:48.52 | erichapkido | abrotman: none that i could tell |
| 23:48.56 | jelly-home | MatBoy: I know. I've used sendmail for a long time and am in process of ditching it for postfix. |
| 23:48.58 | MatBoy | jelly-home, it depends, if he can use a SMTP of his provicer, sendmail is simple to send mails... I never heard anything about mailboxes |
| 23:48.59 | abrotman | oh well .. as long as it works now :) |
| 23:49.13 | erichapkido | abrotman: i updated apt-get after trying something, and then it said it was going to remove a bunch of stuff, but i wasn't paying attention and said ok |
| 23:49.16 | MatBoy | *provider |
| 23:49.26 | abrotman | erichapkido: oh .. yeah .. bad idea :) |
| 23:49.38 | MatBoy | jelly-home, but postfix is great ! |
| 23:49.39 | erichapkido | abrotman: thankfully it made a log |
| 23:49.43 | eyeris | craigevil, I will in one second. I'm just finishing up an email. |
| 23:49.44 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:50.07 | *** join/#debian m0dular (n=modular@200.121.102.11) |
| 23:50.19 | erichapkido | would you happen to know how to get aac playback in gstreamer0.10? |
| 23:50.30 | MatBoy | yep, too late here again.. I'm going to bed |
| 23:50.34 | DaveyB` | abrotman, : Done all that but what is this for? apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7 |
| 23:50.40 | gimmulf | jelly-home: works sending from shell now after configuring exim |
| 23:50.59 | MatBoy | gimmulf, exim should be removed by now |
| 23:51.04 | jelly-home | gimmulf: yeah. go with the default until you find out you need something more complicated. |
| 23:51.11 | eyeris | craigevil, awesome, it worked. Thanks for the command. Should I file a bug report with font-config or is this a known problem/stupid user issue? |
| 23:51.27 | craigevil | i think there is already a bug report |
| 23:51.27 | abrotman | DaveyB`: what kind of CPU do you have ? |
| 23:51.38 | DaveyB` | 386 |
| 23:51.51 | abrotman | erichapkido: i would not .. i don't even know what AAC is :) |
| 23:51.58 | abrotman | DaveyB`: what speed ? |
| 23:52.06 | *** join/#debian quintin (n=quintin@74.133.92.249) |
| 23:52.07 | erichapkido | advanced audio codec i think, its mpeg4 |
| 23:52.08 | MatBoy | DaveyB`, 66mHz :P |
| 23:52.08 | quintin | ZOMG!!!11 |
| 23:52.09 | DaveyB` | abrotman, 3 gig |
| 23:52.11 | quintin | jeif3jfas; |
| 23:52.13 | MatBoy | Mhz |
| 23:52.24 | quintin | "deb EEE an" or "DEE BEE N" |
| 23:52.30 | abrotman | DaveyB`: in your case .. use 686 in place of $arch |
| 23:52.31 | DaveyB` | x86 architecuter |
| 23:52.45 | abrotman | quintin: the former |
| 23:52.52 | quintin | omg |
| 23:52.55 | quintin | my whole life has been a lie |
| 23:52.56 | abrotman | !pronounce debian |
| 23:52.56 | dpkg | debian is pronounced like Deb and like Ian. Deh-be-an |
| 23:53.01 | DaveyB` | k |
| 23:53.07 | jelly-home | quintin: Deb is Deb, Ian is EE-an |
| 23:53.15 | quintin | Yea I shoulda figured that |
| 23:53.17 | MatBoy | quintin, as long as someone can understand that you mean Debian, it fine I think :) |
| 23:53.19 | quintin | I know the origin of the name |
| 23:53.44 | quintin | got these videos, and this guy is saying "deb EE N GA NU linux" |
| 23:53.46 | *** join/#debian alexscott (n=alexscot@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 23:54.08 | jelly-home | quintin: what aboot lee-nucs? |
| 23:54.30 | DaveyB` | abrotman, I get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-2.6-686: Depends: linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 (= 2.6.16-13bpo1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages |
| 23:54.31 | MatBoy | I should say... DEEE BEEEEE en/an |
| 23:54.42 | MatBoy | jelly-home, haha :) |
| 23:54.43 | gimmulf | jelly-home: works perfectly from frameworks now also, wierd it didnt work from beginning |
| 23:54.46 | *** join/#debian silly_girl22 (n=chris@64-238-154-163.block1.gvtc.com) |
| 23:54.46 | quintin | jelly-home: mmmm this guy is saying linux. heard some people say that though |
| 23:54.55 | DaveyB` | abrotman, I am typing in apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:55.06 | MatBoy | gimmulf, I think you didn;t configure it while installing Debian |
| 23:55.09 | erichapkido | just curious, when will gnome 2.16 be put in? |
| 23:55.16 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Enlighte@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 23:55.25 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:55.32 | abrotman | in what? |
| 23:55.47 | MatBoy | first the answer and than the question :p |
| 23:56.06 | erichapkido | in etch, or sid either |
| 23:56.14 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 23:56.17 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.14.3-2 (sid), Packaged size: 380 kB, Installed size: 876 kB |
| 23:56.26 | abrotman | erichapkido: .16 is in experimental now |
| 23:56.47 | erichapkido | abrotman: whats the difference between eperimental and sid? |
| 23:57.00 | jelly-home | quintin: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/english.au |
| 23:57.00 | abrotman | !experimental |
| 23:57.00 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. for an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 23:57.15 | *** join/#debian chino[dev] (n=daquino@c-68-84-57-212.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.24 | *** join/#debian junix (n=ameyer@24-107-192-115.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 23:57.27 | chino[dev] | wahts does "internet with smart host" mean in postfix setup ? |
| 23:57.50 | abrotman | chino[dev]: bascially .. route your mail through a real smtp server |
| 23:58.39 | DaveyB` | abrotman, can you help any further or have we reached the end? |
| 23:59.05 | abrotman | DaveyB`: is it working ? |
| 23:59.07 | jetscreamer | this is the end... my friend... |
| 23:59.11 | jetscreamer | this is the end... |
| 23:59.22 | chino[dev] | and what does internet site mean ? |
| 23:59.30 | abrotman | chino[dev]: like a real mail server |
| 23:59.32 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (n=Firestar@cpe-74-70-76-50.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:59.39 | DaveyB` | abrotman, I keep getting this error The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-2.6-686: Depends: linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 (= 2.6.16-13bpo1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages when I do I am typing in apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-686 . |
| 23:59.55 | abrotman | DaveyB`: moment |
| 23:59.59 | chino[dev] | ok so eiitehr i route through a real smtp server or a real mail server lol isn't smtp server a mail server ? |
