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| 00:00.05 | Guerin | xam: still in the orient? |
| 00:00.10 | msn | !info kolab sarge |
| 00:00.16 | Zarephath | Understood..I am attempting to install gnome per bot instructions when I do I get a message about broken packages... |
| 00:00.19 | msn | !info kolabd sarge |
| 00:00.54 | streuner | msn: /msg dpkg info foo sarge |
| 00:00.56 | Guerin | Zarephath: which instructons? |
| 00:01.18 | Guerin | ok, this is fucking bad |
| 00:01.26 | Guerin | mind you |
| 00:01.39 | Guerin | it might give me the option to start from scratch |
| 00:01.40 | xam | Guerin: just feel safe in the knowledge that you new found entropy ('' is highly ordered) will enforce random crap on some other part of your harddrive or some other CD ... |
| 00:01.51 | Guerin | yay |
| 00:01.55 | Guerin | i suppose |
| 00:02.17 | xam | Guerin: yeah, just popping by ... probably will drop by more often again |
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| 00:03.42 | Guerin | xam: i'm back in NZ, world trip cut short by a motorbike accident |
| 00:03.52 | Guerin | xam: and at grad skool doing an MA |
| 00:04.27 | kingsley | Why would a script executing "cat /proc/interrupts" intermittently report spontaneous keyboard activity when no one is using the keyboard? |
| 00:04.42 | xam | Guerin: I'll probably move back to Germany in a month or two (if I find a ob soon). Ireland is just too wet, dull and expensive |
| 00:04.52 | Tortel | ob! |
| 00:04.53 | Guerin | xam: finished your phd? |
| 00:04.54 | Tortel | :P |
| 00:05.07 | Guerin | it's not really a job. |
| 00:07.00 | shogunx | kingsley... i have a host that reports various acpi events as keyboard events. |
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| 00:07.12 | shogunx | an x86_64 |
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| 00:08.09 | Snadder | anyone know about a clarkconnect channel? |
| 00:08.12 | kingsley | shogunx: Thanks, that's interesting. |
| 00:08.20 | xam | Guerin: well, better not talk about it. Problem is, I can't find funding and running out of money. And have to work also on team projects, which further delayed my PhD. So I have to cut my losses. Perhaps I can pick it up later or finish it in my spare time. Right now I need money, and having a (unemployed) girlfriend is not helping me either at the moment |
| 00:08.37 | Guerin | xam: ah, fuck. |
| 00:08.48 | xam | Guerin: motorbike accident? ouch! seriously hurt? |
| 00:09.02 | kingsley | shogunx: Have you happened to have found a way to isolate true keyboard interrupts? |
| 00:09.14 | Guerin | xam: nah, broken clavicle, but it did stop me using my right arm for a couple months, so home it was |
| 00:09.48 | shogunx | kingsley, i use the host as a server for X-terminals, and rarely from the console, so I have not really bothered. |
| 00:10.23 | xam | Guerin: ahh, broke that also twice ... when I still did martial arts |
| 00:10.29 | shogunx | kingsley, i just lumped it under kernel spew. could probably get rid of it by lowering the acpi verbosity. |
| 00:10.31 | Ironhand | can someone tell me what the most straightforward way is to have a dual boot Debian/Ubuntu system? (if at all possible both able to update their kernel location in grub's menu.lst) |
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| 00:13.05 | Guerin | Ironhand: have a shared /boot directory for grub |
| 00:13.31 | Guerin | Ironhand: or a script which syncs two /boot dirs on shutdown |
| 00:13.39 | kingsley | shogunx: The box that's spontaneously generating keyboard interrupts has the "powermgmt-base" package installed, which evidently affects ACPI. |
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| 00:14.08 | shogunx | kingsley, that might be a good place to look... |
| 00:14.19 | Ironhand | yeah, right now I've got a seperate /boot fs that both installs mount... but it messes up once either of them tries to update their kernel |
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| 00:21.35 | Deon | hi |
| 00:21.53 | Deon | Is there a command like DOS's cls that clears the screen in bash? |
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| 00:22.05 | h3sp4wn | Deon: clear |
| 00:22.06 | dfx- | Deon: clear |
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| 00:22.21 | Deon | fantastic, thanks heaps :) |
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| 00:25.43 | mortal5 | I have a problem, i think my roomies are stressing my net connection with p2p traffic |
| 00:25.55 | mortal5 | how can i see what traffic is flowing over the network? |
| 00:26.08 | dvs | !info snort sarge |
| 00:26.15 | dpkg | snort: (Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System), section net, is optional. Version: 2.3.2-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 872 kB |
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| 00:27.46 | mortal5 | ugh wtf this is so painful |
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| 00:28.02 | mortal5 | I'm about to start kickn folks off the network |
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| 00:28.47 | h3sp4wn | mortal5: you probably want to setup some qos stuff |
| 00:28.55 | loupgaroublond | what is the config option for apt for when i get "E: Dynamic MMAP ran out of room" when updating my package list? |
| 00:28.55 | aeronadix | how do I do "ls --nocolor"? |
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| 00:29.01 | dfx- | mortal5: you might want to look at wireshark also if you want to see each packet that's going over your network |
| 00:29.16 | mortal5 | h3sp4wn: i have qos setup on my wrt54g |
| 00:29.17 | gimmulf | How do i see the files permissions when using "ls" ? |
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| 00:29.26 | dfx- | gimmulf: ls -l |
| 00:29.31 | mortal5 | methinks its not working that well |
| 00:29.39 | h3sp4wn | mortal5: it cannot be setup right if that can happen |
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| 00:30.18 | Random | hey i just did an apt-get upgrade ... and my gnome windows all seem to have a hard to displaying text ... i just lines ... is this a known issue in "testing"? |
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| 00:31.53 | h3sp4wn | mortal5: which qos ? (if its dd-wrt junk it and switch to openwrt (with x-wrt if you have to have a webif) - with nbd's qos scripts setup right its impossible for me to not have fast web / ssh) |
| 00:32.13 | loupgaroublond | nevermind, found it |
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| 00:34.35 | aeronadix | how do you list (ls) with out color? |
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| 00:36.43 | iter | you can cheat with ls | more |
| 00:36.54 | sime_ | How does synaptic download remote changelogs, it is using its own trickery or existing apt function. Essentially can I do it from the command line ? |
| 00:38.09 | Guerin | man, ftp.nz.d.o just freaked out and died |
| 00:38.43 | aeronadix | iter, good idea, thanks |
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| 00:40.20 | rxkaffee | aeronadix, --color=none |
| 00:42.29 | aeronadix | rxkaffee, thx |
| 00:42.35 | rxkaffee | aeronadix, "By default, color is not used to distinguish types of files... The |
| 00:42.36 | rxkaffee | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.45 | rxkaffee | oops, that was supposed to be one line, sorry |
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| 00:44.59 | Guerin | ah, dishes |
| 00:45.10 | Guerin | these are the wages of having a wife who works full time |
| 00:45.18 | dvs | !pity Guerin |
| 00:45.19 | dpkg | I pity da fool Guerin! |
| 00:45.27 | Guerin | i'm cool with it |
| 00:45.41 | Guerin | i have two weeks off skool now, and can fish to my heart's content |
| 00:45.55 | Guerin | as soon as my car comes back from the shop |
| 00:46.24 | dvs | uh oh. That doesn't sound good |
| 00:46.47 | Guerin | yeah |
| 00:46.49 | Tortel | your car got pwned! |
| 00:46.54 | Tortel | :P |
| 00:47.20 | Guerin | brakes making grindey noises, fromt left strut leaking, rear left tyre bald, hole in the muffler |
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| 00:47.30 | Guerin | that's what i *know* is wrong with it |
| 00:48.07 | dvs | The grindy sound would worry me the most. New rotors! |
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| 00:48.21 | Guerin | i can only hope not |
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| 00:49.36 | dob1 | hi |
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| 00:49.45 | dob1 | why the package amarok-arts is not longer available? |
| 00:49.46 | sid | root@cookooland:/etc/apache2# find ./ -type f|xargs cat|grep -i index.html |
| 00:49.48 | sid | root@cookooland:/etc/apache2# |
| 00:49.57 | freeone3000 | Is there a way to remove libraries (not -dev packages) that are not in use? |
| 00:49.58 | sid | hmm, where is the apache config line that defines index.php index.html etc? |
| 00:50.01 | dvs | huh? |
| 00:50.11 | sid | freeone3000: apt-get install debfoster; debfoster; |
| 00:50.12 | freeone3000 | sid: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, I believe. |
| 00:50.19 | freeone3000 | sid: Thanks. |
| 00:50.37 | Guerin | sid: most convoluted way possible of grepping configs |
| 00:50.39 | sid | freeone3000: no, it's no there.(on a default apt-get install apache2) |
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| 00:50.58 | Guerin | apache2's config is a million annoying little files |
| 00:50.58 | freeone3000 | Odd. |
| 00:51.05 | Guerin | instead of one huge annoying file |
| 00:51.09 | dvs | sid: DocumentRoot ? |
| 00:51.32 | Guerin | rgrep -i index /etc/apache* |
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| 00:51.35 | sid | dvs: nope, "DocumentRoot" doesn't exist in any file in /etc/apache2 |
| 00:51.37 | Guerin | shoudl tell you |
| 00:52.04 | sid | root@cookooland:/etc/apache2# rgrep -i index.html /etc/apache* |
| 00:52.04 | sid | root@cookooland:/etc/apache2# |
| 00:52.13 | ]Gnea[ | heh, now he gets it |
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| 00:52.38 | dvs | sid: It's DirectoryIndex |
| 00:53.14 | Guerin | sid: i don't know anything specific about apache2, but it strikes me as weird that NONE of those directives are anywhere |
| 00:53.28 | Guerin | no, it's not directoryindex |
| 00:53.35 | sid | root@cookooland:/etc/apache2# rgrep -i directoryindex /etc/apache* |
| 00:53.37 | sid | /etc/apache2/conf.d/moodle: DirectoryIndex index.php |
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| 00:53.47 | sid | Only that one line. |
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| 00:53.54 | amphi | sid: moodle, of course |
| 00:54.12 | ]Gnea[ | sid: you can add index.html to the end of that and restart apache and it'll pick it up just fine |
| 00:54.32 | ]Gnea[ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.52 | sid | ]Gnea[: It already does pickup index.html fine, I'm trying to figure out how |
| 00:55.02 | Guerin | sid: i told you to grep for index, not index.html |
| 00:55.21 | Guerin | meh |
| 00:55.26 | ]Gnea[ | the stupid hurts my brain |
| 00:55.40 | sid | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZxE2SK32.html |
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| 00:56.26 | diilbert | How do I create a vfat partition on my usb drive ? and format it |
| 00:56.39 | beardy | ]Gnea[: What's happened with your nick? |
| 00:56.54 | ]Gnea[ | beardy: blackholed |
| 00:57.04 | beardy | ]Gnea[: Ah. |
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| 00:57.16 | beardy | Nasty things those black holes. |
| 00:57.30 | ]Gnea[ | diilbert: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO/ |
| 00:57.43 | ]Gnea[ | beardy: they have their advantages :) |
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| 01:01.50 | chemaja | beardy, aah xmoto, the source of many hours of pain ;-) |
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| 01:03.15 | diilbert | ]Gnea[ thanks... mkdosfs did the trick |
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| 01:05.09 | beardy | chemaja: Yeah :) |
| 01:05.56 | LOVE_amanda | auh |
| 01:05.56 | LOVE_amanda | so late :) |
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| 01:06.19 | Tortel | homeowrk sucks |
| 01:06.20 | Tortel | :( |
| 01:06.28 | Tortel | someone make a program that does it for me |
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| 01:06.36 | Tortel | :} |
| 01:07.18 | LOVE_amanda | in serbia : Friday October 27 2006 -- 03:07:09 +02:00 |
| 01:07.19 | LOVE_amanda | :)) |
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| 01:07.37 | Tortel | !time |
| 01:07.37 | dpkg | [time] found on http://www.time.com/, or 2006.10.27 1:07:37, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. of no essence here! |
| 01:08.37 | LOVE_amanda | !time |
| 01:08.38 | dpkg | well, time is found on http://www.time.com/, or 2006.10.27 1:08:37, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. of no essence here! |
| 01:08.41 | LOVE_amanda | :) |
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| 01:10.46 | insta | hey guys ... i've got etch installed on an HDD that was transplanted from an Athlon to a Pentium3. the system had the -k7 kernel installed, and (rightfully) won't boot on the P3. It's an embedded system, so the option of a CDROM or floppy is out. is there any way i can disable the k7 optimizations long enough to boot and download a new kernel? |
| 01:11.02 | eyeris | I am trying to use apt-src to compile apache from src with all modules linked statically. Does anyone here know how the apache src package controls whether modules are statically linked or built as DSOs? |
| 01:11.26 | insta | whats wrong with ./configure ? |
| 01:11.33 | eyeris | insta: no, those optimizations are made by the compiler |
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| 01:11.47 | insta | crap |
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| 01:11.55 | insta | this is gonna be fun then |
| 01:11.56 | eyeris | insta: not even the official Apache sources use configure. |
| 01:12.25 | insta | scons? |
| 01:12.25 | eyeris | insta: what is the problem with booting? |
| 01:12.33 | relaxed | anyone recommend a good desktop wifi card with oss driver? |
| 01:12.42 | jdhoreOTG | weird...i got my wifi lan card setup and configured and shit (FINALLY) and i can connect to my own network, but i can't access the web...can anyone help me here? |
| 01:12.44 | eyeris | insta: the only instructions that athlon has that p3 doesn't should be 3dnow and sse2, neither of which have much use in the kernel |
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| 01:13.03 | Ketchup | why is X taking up like 95% of my system ? |
| 01:13.04 | niles | whats a good book on writing kernel modules? |
| 01:13.14 | eyeris | relaxed: orinoco stuff is still sold under another name. I forgot the name, but you can Froogle for it. It's about $85. |
| 01:13.17 | Ketchup | any idea why? |
| 01:13.19 | insta | eyeris: lemme start it up again ... it fails very quickly while booting, blasting an error message repeatedly |
| 01:13.43 | joatha | hi |
| 01:13.45 | insta | "Unknown interrupt or fault at . . . (hex codes)" |
| 01:13.46 | eyeris | Ketchup: 95% reported by what? top? top includes mmap'd memory on the gfx card |
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| 01:14.11 | eyeris | insta oh, that's probably not fixable. |
| 01:14.30 | joatha | i want to ask if there any GUI for administrate debian???? |
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| 01:15.05 | Ketchup | eye69: htop |
| 01:15.05 | relaxed | eyeris: thanks. is the orinoco driver in the linux kernel? |
| 01:15.16 | eyeris | joatha: For what part? There is KPackage for the debian packages. |
| 01:15.18 | Ketchup | eyeris: htop |
| 01:15.26 | Ketchup | eyeris: and everytime it happens i lag |
| 01:15.40 | jdhoreOTG | anyone have any ideas about my problem? |
| 01:15.45 | eyeris | relaxed I believe so. Orinoco was one of the first wifi chipsets supported. |
| 01:15.57 | dan2 | orinoco chipsets are damn good |
| 01:16.18 | joatha | well if possable for the hole system administration |
| 01:16.18 | diilbert | I am having a problem with kcron... I can't save new tasks. When I try to save a task it gives me a "error updating crontab" Error... Any ideas ? |
| 01:16.30 | junix | could someone help me with this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/4240 |
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| 01:16.57 | joatha | i knew there is a TUI to do that but is there anu GUI app? |
| 01:16.58 | eyeris | joatha no software provides a GUI for all administrative tasks. The closest you will come is something like cPanel, which runs through a web server. |
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| 01:17.13 | jdhoreOTG | weird...i got my wifi lan card setup and configured and shit (FINALLY) and i can connect to my own network, but i can't access the web...can anyone help me here? |
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| 01:18.08 | eyeris | junix: What is the problem: Those are just informational messages. |
| 01:18.26 | eyeris | Ketchup what are you doing when this happens? |
| 01:19.28 | Ketchup | eyeris: nothing |
| 01:20.09 | dfx- | ok whoeve rmentioned the xmoto game sucks .. .I can't even get past the first level! |
| 01:20.27 | eyeris | Ketchup what other processes are using a decent amount of memory/cpu at the time? |
| 01:20.29 | amphi | jdhoreOTG: no default route configured? |
| 01:20.56 | jdhoreOTG | when i try to ping my gateway, it gives me: Destination host unreachable |
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| 01:21.11 | insta | what?? xmoto is awesome |
| 01:21.32 | insta | you do know that space turns you around, right? |
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| 01:22.14 | junix | eyeris: oh! |
| 01:23.10 | amphi | jdhoreOTG: so what do you mean you 'can connect to my own network' exactly? |
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| 01:23.39 | Guerin | junix: you need to set a route to the gateway |
| 01:23.54 | junix | Guerin: huh??? |
| 01:23.56 | jdhoreOTG | iwconfig and rutilt say i'm connected to the SSID of my wifi router |
| 01:23.57 | Guerin | jdhoreOTG: using something like route add default gw ip.add.re.ss |
| 01:24.04 | Guerin | junix: sorry |
| 01:24.19 | junix | not for me?? |
| 01:24.28 | jdhoreOTG | (Guerin): how would i do that (i'm a bit of a noob, sorry)? |
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| 01:24.41 | amphi | jdhoreOTG: so it's associated - you need to configure the interface, either dhclient or ifconfig + route |
| 01:24.48 | eyeris | junix: if you want to get rid of the warnings, check out the man page options: http://node1.yo-linux.com/cgi-bin/man2html?cgi_command=exports |
| 01:24.51 | jdhoreOTG | ahh |
| 01:24.53 | jdhoreOTG | ok |
| 01:25.03 | Guerin | jdhoreOTG: 1. lose the parentheses 2. I told you the exact command to type |
| 01:25.38 | jdhoreOTG | sorry |
| 01:26.03 | Cholito | I want to delete every single Thumbs.db on the disk and I thought I could run this: 'find / -name Thumbs.db -exec rm' but I get: find: parameter missing for `-exec |
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| 01:26.56 | dendrite | Cholito: find / -name Thumbs.db -exec rm {} \; |
| 01:27.05 | Tortel | rm -rf * |
| 01:27.06 | Tortel | ;) |
| 01:27.14 | dendrite | Cholito: NOT what Tortel said! |
| 01:27.28 | Tortel | only if you want everything gone |
| 01:27.34 | dendrite | Tortel: Careful, there are folks here who are confused enough to type what you say without necessarily understanding it. |
| 01:27.37 | Cholito | dendrite: I know |
| 01:27.42 | Holborn | {} is the trick |
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| 01:27.54 | SLippin1 | looking for a clue - top -b -n 1 | logger works fine from the prompt, but when the same command is run from cron, no output. Any ideas? |
| 01:27.55 | Tortel | rm -rf Tortel |
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| 01:28.10 | Cholito | yes, never say that, newbies can run it... ;o) |
| 01:28.38 | Tortel | adn learn from it |
| 01:28.38 | Tortel | ..hopefully |
| 01:28.38 | Cholito | lol |
| 01:28.38 | jdhoreOTG | Guerin- whne i do that route command, it gives me back: SIOCADDRT: file exists |
| 01:28.42 | jdhoreOTG | *when |
| 01:28.45 | dendrite | Cholito: Well, Tortel's suggestion *would* have removed all Thumb.db instances... |
| 01:28.45 | Cholito | so...what parameter I'm missing? |
| 01:29.17 | Tortel | like when a cat has fleas, throw it in the incinerator |
| 01:29.22 | Tortel | fixes the flea problem |
| 01:29.32 | Tortel | with minor side effects |
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| 01:29.35 | dendrite | Tortel: Only if you then burn your house... |
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| 01:29.44 | rhsanborn | Does Debian have any sort of firewall that would install by default? I can't figure out why the port forwarding on my router still isn't coming through |
| 01:29.49 | Cholito | oh, then 'rm {} \;'? |
| 01:29.59 | Guerin | rhsanborn: none. |
| 01:30.01 | Cholito | Tortel: you don't have any pet do you? |
| 01:30.11 | rhsanborn | Guerin, thanks :( |
| 01:30.22 | Cholito | *pets |
| 01:30.23 | Tortel | Cholito: a turtle, and I had 2 cats |
| 01:30.32 | sk4nK | but they got fleas... |
| 01:30.33 | Cholito | fleas? |
| 01:30.36 | dendrite | Cholito: {} gets replaced by what find digs up, and \; tells find to end the -exec. |
| 01:30.37 | Cholito | lol |
| 01:30.47 | Tortel | lol |
| 01:30.53 | Cholito | dendrite: thanks =) |
| 01:31.10 | Guerin | yay |
| 01:31.16 | dendrite | Cholito: So to build on what you were trying, it'd be "find / -name Thumbs.db -exec rm {} \;" |
| 01:31.20 | Guerin | car's going to cost about $600 to fix0r |
| 01:31.41 | Guerin | damn thing only cost me $850 to buy |
| 01:31.42 | jdhoreOTG | Guerin is there a way so all this will auto-config like my eth0 did when i installed or like Windows does? |
| 01:31.58 | Guerin | jdhoreOTG: /etc/network/interfaces? I know nothing about wireless. |
| 01:32.24 | Cholito | dendrite: thanks man |
| 01:32.25 | jdhoreOTG | i would think it would be the same, wireless or not |
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| 01:32.39 | jdhoreOTG | wait...i think i know what i have to do |
| 01:32.44 | jdhoreOTG | i think i need a reboot |
| 01:32.49 | Kerr | Anyone know of a repo where i can apt-get firefox2 ? |
| 01:32.58 | Kerr | O.o |
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| 01:33.35 | Guerin | keta_: don't bother, just use the mozilla.org binaries |
| 01:33.40 | Guerin | Kerr: |
| 01:33.49 | Guerin | !reboot |
| 01:33.50 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2 |
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| 01:33.56 | Guerin | jdhoreOTG: ↑ |
| 01:34.12 | Guerin | !qotd2 |
| 01:34.13 | dpkg | <mrvn> Broadcast message from root (Sat Aug 7 05:48:42 2004): <mrvn> The system is going down for system halt NOW! <mrvn> What the fuck is dselect/dpkg doing a reboot for? <trave11er> mrvn: for changes to take effect? ;-) <StevenK> mrvn: You *had* to move the mouse, didn't you? <mrvn> StevenK: damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it. |
| 01:35.17 | Kerr | letting wine access my dvd drive = lots of reboots. Likes to lock up the drive. >.> |
| 01:35.36 | navaburo | Kerr, i had similar problems with qemu |
| 01:35.41 | Guerin | uuuugleh |
| 01:36.10 | jdhoreOTG | remind me why i fucking hate Linux... |
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| 01:38.00 | Tortel | yarr! |
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| 01:40.20 | sid | hmm, I installed moodle, but wheN i go to localhost/moodle it wants me to download a phtml file, and the phtml filename is always a random set of characters |
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| 01:41.10 | Kerr | Tortel: that's some fine piratitude you have there |
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| 01:41.25 | sid | I have all default settings for everything(php5/mysql-server/apache2/moodle), when I installed moodle I told the dialogue script my mysql admin user/pass, then I told it the moodle user/pass for mysql. And when I go to http://localhost/moodle it just tries to get me to download a randomly named phtml file |
| 01:41.29 | sanmarcos | what app do I have to execute after modyfing /etc/exports? |
| 01:41.30 | Tortel | Kerr: aye, it tis |
| 01:42.01 | jdhoreOTG | apparently that didn't fix it... |
| 01:42.36 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, does your router provide dhcp? |
| 01:42.42 | jdhoreOTG | i guess it's running off the default gateway, but it still can't ping anything |
| 01:42.45 | jdhoreOTG | yes |
| 01:42.49 | sid | sanmarcos: What distribution of Debian GNU/Linux are you using? |
| 01:42.56 | sanmarcos | sid |
| 01:43.15 | sanmarcos | with nfs user server |
| 01:43.31 | sid | sanmarcos: I'm also running sid, and I don't have /etc/exports, nor does apt-file find it. sanmarcos try dpkg -S /etc/exports |
| 01:43.38 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, why are you bothering to manually configure your routing then? |
| 01:43.47 | sanmarcos | sid: its nfs, what crack are you smoking? |
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| 01:44.03 | jdhoreOTG | cuz apparently, it didn't work with everything normal |
| 01:44.11 | sid | sanmarcos: /etc/init.d/nfs restart? |
| 01:44.19 | sanmarcos | leave the crack |
| 01:44.27 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, oh, sorry... must have missed that when I scrolledback |
| 01:44.54 | jdhoreOTG | np |
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| 01:46.12 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, you said that when it was configured via dhcp, you were unable to ping your router's internal lan IP? |
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| 01:46.27 | jdhoreOTG | it still is...and yes |
| 01:46.34 | doncan | konsole open up for root by default. is this normal? i am uisng etch with kernel-2.6.17. |
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| 01:47.57 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, other computers on your net can ping both the broken system, and the router though? |
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| 01:48.51 | Seb | what is a decent command-line way to find my default gateway ? Somehting more robust than route -n | tail -1 | awk '{print $2}' maybe ? |
| 01:49.02 | jdhoreOTG | rxkaffee- no |
| 01:49.24 | rxkaffee | Seb, you could follow a traceroute path |
| 01:50.20 | epsilon | or ifconfig/dhcp |
| 01:50.26 | Seb | rxkaffee: i'm not sure that's better than my method, plus it has the inconvenient of not being so fast :\ |
| 01:50.35 | Seb | rxkaffee: but I reckon it's prolly more bulletproof though |
| 01:50.40 | chafe | what the fuck is /usr/libexec |
| 01:50.46 | chafe | what is the debian equivelant of this? |
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| 01:51.17 | pinky | Hey, where are the startup logs located? |
| 01:51.34 | epsilon | ./var/log |
| 01:51.45 | Seb | pinky: /var/log/dmesg |
| 01:51.51 | Seb | pinky: or just ype dmesg |
| 01:51.55 | Seb | s/ype/type/ |
| 01:52.23 | chafe | i am reading this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#Firefox.2C_Mozilla.2C_RealPlayer.2C_Skype_.26_Co |
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| 01:52.31 | chafe | and trying to relate it to debian somehow |
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| 01:55.05 | Guerin | chafe: ask in #gentoo how other distros implement it |
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| 01:56.51 | pinky | So, how do I blacklist a module from loading? |
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| 01:57.16 | Guerin | !blacklist |
| 01:57.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 01:57.35 | mortal5 | just out of curiosity, why does debian insist on packaging its own bugified version of cdrtools? |
| 01:57.58 | jdhoreOTG | well...i just got it working...my wlan that is |
| 01:58.08 | rxkaffee | jdhoreOTG, what was up with it? |
| 01:59.07 | Guerin | mortal5: you mean the non-schilly version? |
| 01:59.17 | pinky | So if I run Etch, the only thing I need to do is add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist? |
| 01:59.27 | Guerin | pinky: theoretically |
| 01:59.33 | jdhoreOTG | heh...the default gateway device in the networking preference pane was set to eth0 instead of wlan0...i just deactivated all my wired lan and it worked great |
| 01:59.39 | mortal5 | Guerin, ...no i mean, when i compile from sources, even without shilly, it actually works |
| 01:59.47 | dondelelcaro | mortal5: then file bugs... |
| 01:59.50 | mortal5 | where as the debian version doesn't |
| 02:00.07 | Guerin | mortal5: file a bug |
| 02:00.08 | mortal5 | i believe it's been reported |
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| 02:00.16 | mortal5 | just not fixed |
| 02:00.20 | jdhoreOTG | thanks for your help guys |
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| 02:03.39 | Cholito | dendrite: BTW, it worked =) |
| 02:03.41 | Cholito | thanks |
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| 02:05.33 | rxkaffee | chafe, I believe that is where gentoo stores the actual binary executables for firefox... the /usr/bin/firefox is just a script |
| 02:05.49 | sanmarcos | I cant see my harddrives in gnome vfs, I am using hal/udev and sid, any ideas? they are stored in /etc/fstab; hal-device-manager can list them |
| 02:06.18 | Guerin | sanmarcos: here's an idea: don't use gnome-vfs |
| 02:06.25 | Guerin | shocking, I know |
| 02:06.36 | sanmarcos | Guerin: I cant, its in nautilus |
| 02:06.40 | sanmarcos | I need to see the hard drives |
| 02:06.58 | Guerin | *shakes head* |
| 02:07.00 | sanmarcos | its the most common standard in linux desktops, I need these systems to work |
| 02:07.09 | sanmarcos | I could give a crap if gnome vfs is a wonderful piece of shit |
| 02:07.13 | sanmarcos | I just need it to work for the newbies |
| 02:08.32 | h3sp4wn | sanmarcos: why give newbied sid ? |
| 02:08.37 | h3sp4wn | sanmarcos: why give newbies sid ? |
| 02:08.44 | sanmarcos | because I need something up to date |
| 02:08.53 | navaburo | what about etch? |
| 02:08.55 | sanmarcos | and its usually stable |
| 02:09.04 | sanmarcos | I dont think it matters much now |
| 02:09.10 | navaburo | ? sid = unstable |
| 02:09.11 | chafe | rxkaffee oh ok; that helps a lot |
| 02:09.12 | sanmarcos | gnomevfs wont work for me either way |
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| 02:11.45 | Seb | sanmarcos: giving sid as a dekstop to newbies is an error, man |
| 02:11.51 | Seb | sanmarcos: but you know that by now |
| 02:11.54 | sanmarcos | what the fuck does it matter |
| 02:11.57 | sanmarcos | it doenst work in etch either |
| 02:11.59 | sanmarcos | that is why I tried sid |
| 02:12.10 | Seb | sanmarcos: that makes perfect sense indeed |
| 02:12.10 | sanmarcos | they wont be touching the system |
| 02:12.21 | sanmarcos | they will be doing the typical newbie bullshit |
| 02:12.24 | sanmarcos | so it doesnt matter |
| 02:12.34 | Seb | sanmarcos: it matters because you're here bugging the fuck out of us cause of some newbie shit that doesn't work in sid |
| 02:12.46 | Seb | sanmarcos: go file a biug if it there ain't one already |
| 02:12.51 | Seb | s/biug/bug/ |
| 02:12.55 | sanmarcos | right |
| 02:13.16 | Guerin | why not sarge? |
| 02:13.32 | Seb | Guerin: he needs the new stuff. With the bells and whistles, ya know. |
| 02:13.33 | sanmarcos | hey, why not fucking Plan 9? |
| 02:13.40 | Guerin | because plan 9 is shit? |
| 02:13.48 | sanmarcos | same reason, s/shit/outdated |
| 02:13.50 | sanmarcos | there is your answer |
| 02:13.54 | Seb | plan9 is actually a pretty cool system |
| 02:13.56 | Guerin | sanmarcos: but sarge *works* |
| 02:14.12 | sanmarcos | i need a recent gnome/evolution |
| 02:14.18 | Guerin | sanmarcos: this makes it inherently better than sid for some tasks |
| 02:14.21 | Guerin | !need |
| 02:14.21 | dpkg | You don't NEED an application. You definitely don't NEED a game or site. You do not NEED a shell. You do not NEED to get a ban lifted. You NEED food. So go and buy your food, and if you feel that you absolutely NEED a program, we suggest that you go and buy that too while you're out. you do need beer, though. |
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| 02:14.26 | sanmarcos | you are not answering my question |
| 02:14.28 | sanmarcos | its okay |
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| 02:14.51 | Guerin | sanmarcos: the answer to your question, which appears t be 'how to I make gnome work' is: use sarge. |
| 02:14.59 | sanmarcos | if you are not going to answer and give me your phylosophical bullshit I couldnt care, dont bother really, you are not going to change my opinion, and I know I am not going to get an answer anymore, so end of discussion, thank you goodbye |
| 02:15.15 | Seb | sanmarcos: look mate, is there a bug filed for this problem ? If there is one, add some input if it helps, and wait for it to be fixed. Or help fix it if you can. If there isn't a bug, file one. |
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| 02:15.27 | dn4 | greetings |
| 02:15.27 | Seb | sanmarcos: honestly, what the fuck do we want us to do for you ? |
| 02:15.30 | dn4 | Stop smoking your aluminium pipes hippie brothers and sisters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Precautions |
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| 02:15.39 | sanmarcos | just be quiet for now Seb, dont talk to me anymore |
| 02:15.42 | enouf | hey sanmarcos ..what the fuck is gnome vfs ? .. and wtf are you using it? .. use lshal and udevinfo instead of hal-device-magler |
| 02:15.50 | Seb | dn4: glass here heh |
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| 02:16.16 | Seb | sanmarcos: you can ignore me just fine. Yet we can't do shit for you about this problem. As I said, go through the usual BTS channel to get it fixed. |
| 02:16.31 | enouf | oh and sanmarcos .. what's the actual fscken problem anyways? |
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| 02:16.47 | Seb | enouf: it doesn't work... |
| 02:17.04 | enouf | Seb: .. I hear ya.. |
| 02:17.10 | Seb | heh |
| 02:17.14 | enouf | !doesn't work sanmarcos |
| 02:17.20 | enouf | meh |
| 02:17.37 | enouf | !customer? |
| 02:17.38 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 02:17.47 | enouf | \o/ |
| 02:17.59 | Guerin | but he didn't |
| 02:18.22 | Seb | enouf: you meant "dpkg, tell sanmarcos about doesn't work" :) I've always like the long way heh |
| 02:18.39 | enouf | yeah .. but he made reference .. that's good enouf for me ...AND he shutup ..atleast temporarily ;-) |
| 02:19.04 | enouf | Seb: you are corect sir ! |
| 02:19.10 | enouf | +r |
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| 02:22.39 | SLippin1 | looking for a clue - top -b -n 1 | logger works fine from the prompt, but when the same command is run from cron, no output to syslogd. Any ideas? |
| 02:23.58 | doncan | got cut-off before my q was answered earlier on. the q is, konsole open for root user by default. this is normal? |
| 02:24.09 | amphi | SLippin1: does it work if you put the command in a script and have cron run that? |
| 02:24.20 | Seb | SLippin1: use tee to get some debugging, maybe... |
| 02:24.39 | SLippin1 | will try both, good ideas, thanks |
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| 02:26.41 | doncan | ? |
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| 02:27.11 | abrotman | doncan: did you login to KDE as root ? |
| 02:27.27 | doncan | abrotman: no |
| 02:27.40 | abrotman | what makes you think it is starting a root shell ? |
| 02:28.08 | doncan | abrotman: it ask for password and only root password gets thro. |
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| 02:28.50 | abrotman | doncan: doesn't KDE (i don't use it) have a shell and a root shell option in the menu ? |
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| 02:30.12 | doncan | abrotman: yeh, thereis root terminal and there is terminal. |
| 02:30.25 | abrotman | and they both act the same / |
| 02:30.26 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:30.30 | doncan | i am talking about terminal. |
| 02:30.45 | doncan | or rather Konsole. |
| 02:30.48 | abrotman | xterm does the same ? |
| 02:31.01 | doncan | no |
| 02:31.27 | Seb | heh |
| 02:31.36 | Seb | time for #debian-kde ? :) |
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| 02:32.05 | abrotman | pretty much .. or BTS |
| 02:32.29 | doncan | k, another q. is nvu not supported anymore? |
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| 02:33.15 | doncan | i can't get it. not even in sid. |
| 02:34.09 | abrotman | i heard nvu isn't developed anymore |
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| 02:36.49 | doncan | i see. so, what the recommendation(s) for webpage/website creation? |
| 02:37.24 | rxkaffee | that bluefish isn't too bad |
| 02:37.24 | sandman | Is there an easy way to just install all fonts, and make them available to all applications? |
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| 02:40.42 | h3sp4wn | doncan: mod_perl + template toolkit (html tidy can make nice any junk generated by a program) or just vim |
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| 02:42.03 | rxkaffee | people been looking for ya on the other network paul |
| 02:42.20 | rxkaffee | wonderin if ya took a whoopin that you couldn't give back or such :P |
| 02:42.31 | abrotman | other network ? |
| 02:43.05 | Kim^J | Hey! I just installed Webmin on my router and now I can't browse the internet anymore. |
| 02:43.11 | Kim^J | Help needed. |
| 02:43.28 | abrotman | don't use webmin |
| 02:43.46 | Kim^J | What shall I use then? |
| 02:44.03 | abrotman | vi ? |
| 02:44.07 | Kim^J | I really would like an interface for it... |
| 02:44.27 | tuv | Kim^J, bash is a pretty good interface :) |
| 02:44.35 | Kim^J | NO! |
| 02:44.49 | sandman | It appears that the fonts available to GNOME aren't available to openofficeorg |
| 02:44.50 | tuv | Kim^J, interface for what exactly? |
| 02:44.59 | Kim^J | tuv: Iptables. |
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| 02:45.20 | sandman | GNOME has "monospace" (the font, not the classification I'm assuming), but ooffice doesn't |
| 02:45.59 | tuv | Kim^J, there are plenty of frontends for iptables. shorewall is good. firestarter is easy |
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| 02:46.44 | Kim^J | tuv: I can't run Firestarter really... HE HE HE |
| 02:46.55 | tuv | Kim^J, shorewall is not graphical, but is easy to configure and has excellent tutorials |
| 02:47.23 | Kim^J | I have been using Shorewall... Just thought I could use a http based something instead. |
| 02:47.26 | dbindner_ | Say, I was perusing the anonftpsync script, and it's been changed since the last time I looked at it. The new script connects to the rsync server twice (once for pool and once for everything else). I wonder why, when the second rsync could fail due to congestion. |
| 02:48.34 | Kim^J | aahhh.. I can browse the net again. |
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| 02:48.43 | inkypinky | guys can someone recommend me an MTA for a home server. I am new to setting up a mail server so dont really have a whole lot of insight into it |
| 02:48.54 | Kim^J | Conclusion: Webmin sucks so much it shouldn't be in the repos. |
| 02:49.19 | tuv | Kim^J, it's got its fans |
| 02:49.28 | abrotman | inkypinky: do you need to recieve mail also ? |
| 02:50.06 | inkypinky | yes bascically I want to set up my own server to acess gmail via imap |
| 02:50.15 | abrotman | exim or postfix |
| 02:50.31 | abrotman | but you don't need an smtp server to do that |
| 02:50.33 | abrotman | !gmailfs |
| 02:50.34 | tuv | inkypinky, access gmail via imap is not exactly an smtp server |
| 02:50.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gmailfs is a hack to let your gmail account be mounted as a local filesystem, http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html, or http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/002476.html |
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| 02:51.03 | tuv | inkypinky, you could use fetchmail/getmail and dovecot for that |
| 02:52.06 | inkypinky | really ?? so if I just set up a forwarder In my gmail account to my home server addres then I dont need an smtp server ?? |
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| 02:52.48 | xjkx | my "user ~ $ ->" is yellow in xterm, how do i change it? |
| 02:53.08 | dob1 | i am trying to build nvidia drivers from experimental, i added the experimental source list to source.list, but i don't find how to telll to m-a to use them instead the one of unstable |
| 02:53.12 | tuv | inkypinky, no. forwarding requires smtp. fetchmail/getmail fetches your mail off gmail using pop protocol and creates a local mail for you |
| 02:53.21 | rxkaffee | xjkx, not sure about specific to xterm, but you can set prompt coloring in your .bashrc |
| 02:54.08 | dob1 | there are some option to use? |
| 02:54.11 | dob1 | i don't find in the man page |
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| 02:54.56 | xjkx | rxkaffee, i have no .bashrc in home dir, but on /etc/bashrc i see nothing changing collor for yellow |
| 02:54.58 | unlink | are there packages available for the ipw3945 kernel module? |
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| 02:55.26 | abrotman | unlink: apt-cache search 3945 |
| 02:55.36 | inkypinky | tuv: so getmail will put the mail from gmail in a maildir and I just need to serve that up using an imap server? just want to make sure I get this right |
| 02:55.52 | tuv | inkypinky, exactly |
| 02:56.09 | unlink | abrotman: right; this has the firmware and the ieee802111 stack headers/source |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | that is wrong ? |
| 02:56.21 | unlink | abrotman: i'm looking for ipw3945.ko |
| 02:56.29 | abrotman | m-a can't do it |
| 02:56.30 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:56.42 | inkypinky | tuv: thanks you saved me a lot of trouble |
| 02:56.51 | tuv | inkypinky, yw |
| 02:57.09 | unlink | i.e. /lib/modules/2.6.17-2-686/kernel/*/ipw3945.ko |
| 02:57.56 | inkypinky | abrotman: are you trying to configure the 3945abg card ?? |
| 02:58.04 | abrotman | no |
| 02:58.17 | unlink | i am |
| 02:58.39 | inkypinky | unlink: I jsut configured mine 10 min ago :) |
| 02:59.12 | unlink | did you do it through apt? |
| 02:59.16 | tuv | hmm.. that's strange. there is a firmware-ipw3945 package, but no *-source package. how is the firmware package supposed to be useful alone? |
| 02:59.33 | liable | unlink: it hasnt been packaged yet |
| 02:59.42 | inkypinky | unlink: there are no ipw3945 packages in apt except for firmware |
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| 03:00.06 | inkypinky | unlink: what distro testing unstable ?? |
| 03:00.09 | unlink | TESTING |
| 03:00.11 | unlink | er |
| 03:00.11 | unlink | testing |
| 03:00.19 | tuv | and ipw2200 is in-kernel but there are no packaged firmware ! |
| 03:00.40 | inkypinky | yeah kinda strange |
| 03:01.03 | abrotman | !info ipw2200-source etch |
| 03:01.08 | dpkg | ipw2200-source: (Source for the ipw2200 driver), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.8-3 (etch), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
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| 03:01.11 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 03:01.12 | dpkg | module-assistant is probably a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential, or for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 03:01.14 | unlink | inkypinky: how did you get the daemon to load on module insertion? |
| 03:01.30 | tuv | abrotman, that's too out-dated. the kernel now has 1.1.1 |
| 03:01.40 | abrotman | tuv: maybe .. but does it work ? |
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| 03:01.50 | tuv | abrotman, for wpa: NO |
| 03:01.57 | abrotman | wtf uses WPA ? |
| 03:01.57 | tuv | abrotman, too buggy |
| 03:01.58 | inkypinky | unlink: you can try doing it thriugh rc.local |
| 03:02.06 | unlink | ehhh |
| 03:02.08 | liable | unlink: it very difficult unless you use an init script |
| 03:02.18 | unlink | i was thinking udev |
| 03:02.25 | liable | abrotman: who doesnt use wpa? |
| 03:02.25 | unlink | rc.local is kindof a hack |
| 03:02.27 | abrotman | doesn't everyone have an open AP ? |
| 03:02.34 | abrotman | !rc.local |
| 03:02.35 | dpkg | from memory, rc.local is the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", "apt-get install rcconf", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
| 03:02.45 | liable | unlink: tried that myself, got it partially working and have since given up |
| 03:02.49 | tuv | abrotman, besides, it's a hassle to install ipw external modules when there are some in the kernel |
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| 03:02.59 | abrotman | some? |
| 03:03.07 | tuv | abrotman, and that does not solve the firmware problem. it's still not there |
| 03:03.10 | inkypinky | unlink: wait I will send u the link of the ipw3945d deb file |
| 03:03.11 | nevyn | umm APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) |
| 03:03.15 | nevyn | that's interesting |
| 03:03.24 | unlink | inkypinky: don't worry about it |
| 03:03.27 | inkypinky | unlink: that has the init scripts |
| 03:03.37 | unlink | it has udev? |
| 03:03.43 | abrotman | tuv: is there a script like for bcm44xx ? |
| 03:03.48 | abrotman | erm .. 43xx |
| 03:04.01 | tuv | script that does what? |
| 03:04.06 | inkypinky | no udev tho init.d stuff |
| 03:04.09 | abrotman | downloads firmware |
| 03:04.17 | abrotman | !info fwcutter-43xx etch |
| 03:04.19 | tuv | abrotman, i'm not aware of any |
| 03:04.23 | abrotman | eh .. that's not right |
| 03:04.28 | abrotman | !info fwcutter-bcm43xx etch |
| 03:04.33 | abrotman | grr |
| 03:04.39 | tuv | abrotman, i alwasy go to ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php |
| 03:04.44 | liable | unlink: http://liable.mine.nu/debian/thinkpad_T60p.html that has a bit of info on the udev thing, i forgot to right in there that you need to blacklist the module as well, and then call it with /etc/modules iirc |
| 03:04.54 | abrotman | !info bcm43xx-fwcutter etch |
| 03:04.55 | dpkg | bcm43xx-fwcutter: (Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware), section contrib/utils, is optional. Version: 20060501-5 (etch), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 68 kB |
| 03:04.59 | inkypinky | http://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/non-free/i/ipw3945d/ |
| 03:05.01 | abrotman | tuv: oh well .. |
| 03:05.07 | liable | unlink: the server will be shut down in an hour or so, so have a quick look |
| 03:06.07 | liable | unlink: i fucked with it for ages and eventually got the shits.. :/ |
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| 03:06.30 | unlink | hmm |
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| 03:07.11 | xjkx | is there a way to download older kernels?on kernel.org i see new ones ;o |
| 03:07.16 | xjkx | its for testings purposes |
| 03:07.21 | unlink | yes |
| 03:07.35 | xjkx | and what would that be, unixslut ? |
| 03:07.40 | xjkx | unlink* |
| 03:07.45 | inkypinky | unlink: I am using that package from kanotix to do the init.d stuff for the 3945 also get a brand new ieee80211 stack from sf and hand compile them I kept getting module errors whwn using m-a and kernel drivers |
| 03:08.07 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 03:08.07 | dpkg | rumour has it, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 03:08.23 | xjkx | !old kernels |
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| 03:08.40 | abrotman | kernel.org should have source for all revisions |
| 03:08.52 | xjkx | i cant see 'all versions' there ;o |
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| 03:09.05 | Seb | liable: i have the same lappy, e1000 works fine here |
| 03:09.24 | Seb | liable: you need to put that webpage somewhere else and link it from linux-laptop.net |
| 03:09.53 | liable | Seb: you dont get the checksum error? |
| 03:10.01 | Seb | liable: nah |
| 03:10.11 | Seb | liable: tried only the etch beta installer though. |
| 03:10.19 | Seb | liable: after that both .17 and .18 worked aight |
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| 03:11.06 | liable | Seb: hrm, i sometimes get the error, sometimes not, with multiple kernels |
| 03:11.19 | Seb | weird |
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| 03:11.56 | liable | Seb: thats why i changed the wifi to wlan0 cause it was a pita when the device wouldnt appear, and eth1 one become eth0.. |
| 03:12.12 | Seb | heh i see |
| 03:12.23 | liable | Seb: you get the wifi to start at boot? messed with udev at all? |
| 03:12.45 | Seb | i'm waiting for ieee80211-source to get fixed by its braindead maintainer |
| 03:13.13 | Seb | liable: in the meantime i have a few pcmcia wifi cards that do the trick at home |
| 03:13.44 | liable | i hope they make a decent oss driver for the piece o shit card |
| 03:13.52 | liable | the daemon sucks ass |
| 03:14.10 | Seb | liable: i don't thing that's gonna happen naytime soon |
| 03:14.18 | liable | me either :( |
| 03:14.37 | Seb | i liked the atheros in the older IBM lappys |
| 03:14.44 | Seb | at least those drivers were sane |
| 03:15.34 | kb3ien | weird every time i reboot: "Welcome to your new Debian system!" "This programme will now walk you .... " how do i get out of this endless loop? |
| 03:16.01 | kb3ien | its getting old. |
| 03:16.09 | Seb | kb3ien: do you complete it successfully ? |
| 03:16.41 | liable | Seb: ya, i am on my r40 atm with madwifi, never had much problem with em |
| 03:16.52 | kb3ien | well i think so, i refuse to set a root password, because root should not be protected by something as weak as a password IMHO, but everything else is set. |
| 03:16.58 | Seb | haha |
| 03:17.04 | Seb | kb3ien: well there goes your answer man |
| 03:17.15 | Seb | kb3ien: so nothing is better than a password ? |
| 03:17.50 | kb3ien | no, something is better than a password, the oposite proposition. |
| 03:18.15 | Seb | kb3ien: obviously i meant "you refusing to set a password" is better than "you setting one" ? |
| 03:18.20 | kb3ien | i use only sshkeys for password, or a privilaged serial console. |
| 03:18.34 | unlink | so set a trivial password |
| 03:18.38 | kb3ien | yes. much. i never set root passwords. |
| 03:18.39 | Seb | how in the hell does that interfere with setting a password ? |
| 03:19.10 | kb3ien | messes up sudo scripts. |
| 03:19.25 | Seb | kb3ien: you don't make any sense. WHat if someone has access to your console one day ? Just set a goddam password even if you don't use it. Not setting one because of security reasons is... ass-backwards. |
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| 03:19.45 | unlink | what sources should i use for my ipw3945? |
| 03:19.46 | Seb | kb3ien: you're out of your mind. sudo usually asks for the *user* password, that's its whole point: not sharing the root passwd. |
| 03:20.21 | kb3ien | if they had access to the console, then they have the case open already, its a trivial issue to remove the storeage media and replace it with something else. |
| 03:20.59 | inkypinky | http://ipw3945.sf.net and the http://ieee80211.sf.net get the latest versions and compile |
| 03:21.04 | Seb | kb3ien: i refuse to continue this discussion; just be aware that the debian installer will urn for as long as you don't set one. |
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| 03:21.10 | Seb | s/urn/run/ |
| 03:22.28 | unlink | inkypinky: the ipw site doesn't have the ipw3945 kernel module |
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| 03:23.00 | inkypinky | unlink: you have to compile your own |
| 03:23.10 | inkypinky | unlink: its really simple |
| 03:23.14 | unlink | right, my question was which sources to use |
| 03:23.44 | inkypinky | 2006-Aug-02 ipw3945-1.1.0.tgz |
| 03:23.50 | kb3ien | looks like /usr/sbin/base-config is whats running, im not sure where from. |
| 03:24.11 | unlink | ah |
| 03:24.12 | kb3ien | ah inittab. |
| 03:24.25 | Seb | kb3ien: rm it. WOn't be more braindead than anything you do anyway. |
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| 03:24.46 | inkypinky | 2006-Aug-20 ieee80211-1.2.15.tgz |
| 03:25.33 | yunhual | hi |
| 03:25.33 | inkypinky | unlink: do the 80211 stuff first then do the 3945 module |
| 03:27.28 | rxkaffee | a while back I saw a howto for ndiswrapper that involved using the latest sources from their cvs, but turning them into a debian package, could anyone explain the process, or point me towards some documentation on it? |
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| 03:30.47 | liable | !nm |
| 03:30.48 | dpkg | methinks nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
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| 03:31.01 | liable | !nm guide |
| 03:31.02 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 03:31.09 | liable | rxkaffee: ^^ |
| 03:31.14 | Miesco | Can you put a symbolic link in an anonymouse ftp directory? |
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| 03:32.52 | rxkaffee | thanks liable |
| 03:33.46 | yunhual | [root@Firewall root]# df -hT |
| 03:33.48 | yunhual | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 03:33.49 | yunhual | /dev/hda1 ext3 114M 114M 0 100% / |
| 03:33.51 | yunhual | none tmpfs 251M 0 251M 0% /dev/shm |
| 03:33.52 | yunhual | /dev/hda2 ext2 7.6M 4.1M 3.3M 56% /rescue |
| 03:33.54 | yunhual | /dev/hda8 ext3 2.0G 207M 1.7G 12% /sg1 |
| 03:33.55 | yunhual | /dev/hda9 ext3 46M 39M 4.5M 90% /usr/lib/perl5 |
| 03:33.57 | yunhual | /dev/hda5 ext3 3.9G 35M 3.7G 1% /var/log |
| 03:33.58 | yunhual | /dev/hda3 ext3 3.9G 281M 3.4G 8% /var/quarantine |
| 03:34.01 | yunhual | /dev/hda6 ext3 3.9G 49M 3.7G 2% /var/squid |
| 03:34.01 | yunhual | tmpfs tmpfs 50M 20K 50M 1% /tmp/tmp |
| 03:34.03 | yunhual | this is my partition info, the root(/) partition is too small, is there anyone can tell me how can i resize the root partition without lose any data. thank you. |
| 03:34.20 | liable | !paste |
| 03:34.21 | dpkg | methinks paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 03:34.24 | rxkaffee | wow, nice flood buddy! |
| 03:34.57 | Xenguy | yunhual: you dare to paste in #debian? Wo is you :P |
| 03:35.00 | Miesco | liable: Can you put a symbolic link to a directory in a anonymouse ftp directory? |
| 03:35.03 | sid | yunhual: That's the most messed df -h I've ever seen. and don't flood |
| 03:35.46 | Xenguy | er, woe ;-) |
| 03:36.17 | yunhual | ? |
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| 03:36.41 | yunhual | sid>yunhual: That's the most messed df -h I've ever seen. and don't flood |
| 03:36.43 | yunhual | what you mean? |
| 03:37.08 | rxkaffee | yunhual, I think he means something along the lines of "wtf does perl5 have its own partition for?" |
| 03:37.42 | unlink | grr |
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| 03:37.51 | sid | rxkaffee: Look at his /, only 114 megs. no space left |
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| 03:38.17 | unlink | # dmesg | grep -c 'eth1: skb too small (0).' |
| 03:38.17 | unlink | 335 |
| 03:38.17 | Miesco | yunhual: Do you have to format a lot? |
| 03:38.18 | yunhual | yes, i get something wrong |
| 03:38.33 | yunhual | so the / is verry small |
| 03:38.45 | sid | yunhual: What is your native language? |
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| 03:38.56 | rxkaffee | sid, mine is only 150mb :P but I have almost 40% free |
| 03:39.06 | yunhual | chinese, sorry for my english |
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| 03:39.22 | rxkaffee | oops my bad, heh... I have 150MB REMAINING |
| 03:39.25 | sid | yunhual: /j #debian-zh |
| 03:39.42 | yunhual | sid what nationality are you |
| 03:39.46 | rxkaffee | but yea, with a / that small, you need a seperate /usr |
| 03:40.08 | rxkaffee | yunhual, easiest thing would be to move /usr to another drive I think |
| 03:40.09 | sid | yunhual: I'm a New Yorker, but people in #debian-zh will speak your native language and might be able to help you more affectively. |
| 03:40.20 | sid | yunhual: I would just format, and do auto partition with the debian installer. |
| 03:40.24 | sid | !tell yunhual about d-i |
| 03:40.34 | sid | yunhual: That's just my opinion though, others might do it differently. |
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| 03:40.46 | yunhual | thank you sid |
| 03:40.48 | Miesco | sid: Can you use symbolic links with proftpd? |
| 03:40.53 | rxkaffee | sid, I thought only texan's could reply with the state they're from, when asked nationality ;) |
| 03:41.02 | sid | Miesco: I dunno. You can with drftpd. site link blah blah2; |
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| 03:41.23 | sid | Miesco: I bet the developers in #proftpd will know the answer. |
| 03:41.31 | Miesco | sid: Okay, thanks |
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| 03:41.36 | sid | Miesco: I bet man proftpd /symbolic also would help you. |
| 03:41.37 | Seb | safe bet heh |
| 03:42.03 | Miesco | sid: Okay :/ |
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| 03:42.30 | rxkaffee | hah, / searching in man! now THAT is some nifty stuff |
| 03:42.39 | sid | Miesco: Also there is that search engine google --> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+symbolic+link+proftpd&btnG=Google+Search |
| 03:42.48 | rxkaffee | sid, you have no idea how many times I wished I knew how to search within a manpage for text |
| 03:42.59 | Seb | rxkaffee: you do know now, right ? :) |
| 03:43.05 | rxkaffee | fo sho |
| 03:43.09 | Seb | heh |
| 03:43.26 | rxkaffee | thats how I know its nifty stuff ;) |
| 03:44.28 | Seb | so, anyone else watching the world series ? |
| 03:44.37 | rxkaffee | oh btw, not sure who to report this to, but the second link that dpkg spit out for nm guide "does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates" |
| 03:44.46 | sid | Seb: What is the score in games for the series? |
| 03:44.55 | Seb | 2-1 for STL |
| 03:44.56 | Seb | hehehe |
| 03:45.03 | yunhual | there is nobody online at the debian-zh |
| 03:45.05 | Seb | and it's 4-4 in the bottom of the 8th now in STL |
| 03:45.11 | sid | yunhual: I see that. |
| 03:45.31 | sid | yunhual: Format and do an autopartition |
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| 03:46.19 | Seb | rxkaffee: what's the link ? |
| 03:46.23 | sid | yunhual: look in #debian-zh now |
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| 03:48.47 | karabatak | who knows callback configuration for wvdail? |
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| 03:49.27 | rxkaffee | Seb, http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper is the incorrect url, i discovered that the correct url is at http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 03:49.51 | Seb | rxkaffee: change the dpkg factoid then :) |
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| 03:51.17 | rxkaffee | Seb, lol, I guess this is drifting towards /msg dpkg help factoid, eh? |
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| 03:51.32 | Seb | rxkaffee: "dpkg, foo is bar..." |
| 03:51.53 | rxkaffee | ah, ok |
| 03:51.59 | Seb | dpkg, lol ? |
| 03:52.00 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 03:52.09 | Seb | harsh |
| 03:52.12 | k | Is anyone running Etch have flash/browser crashes the last two days?? |
| 03:52.12 | Seb | yet true |
| 03:53.43 | Seb | rxkaffee: did you use to by "kaffee" ? |
| 03:54.02 | rxkaffee | nope, I've always had the perscription strength |
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| 03:54.13 | Seb | heh |
| 03:54.15 | archpollux | hi |
| 03:54.19 | rxkaffee | dpkg, nm guide is The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 03:54.19 | dpkg | ...but nm guide is already something else... |
| 03:54.20 | archpollux | anyone knows how to add spare drives to a linear soft raid that's already built with 2 drives and 0 spares? |
| 03:54.28 | rxkaffee | dpkg, forget nm guide |
| 03:54.48 | Seb | rxkaffee: /msg ;) |
| 03:55.31 | rxkaffee | Seb, it wouldn't let me change it from private chat, figured it might take channel commands with more authority or something :/ |
| 03:55.59 | k-man_ | how would i do something in a make file to time the build process and print out how long it took at the end of the build? |
| 03:56.59 | sid | k-man_: date; make; date; |
| 03:57.15 | sid | or if you want to get fancy with it and write to a file... |
| 03:58.25 | sid | k-man_: echo "start compile &> compile_time.log; date >> compile_time.log; make; echo "end compile >> compile_time.log; date >> compile_time.log; |
| 03:58.47 | k | Firefox crashes on clients and the server in any sites with flash... |
| 03:59.16 | Seb | sid: dude, "time command" :) |
| 03:59.19 | unlink | ipw3945 doesn't work... i get errors such as eth1: skb too small (0). |
| 03:59.36 | Seb | k: report the bug to marillat, who packages flash |
| 03:59.39 | unlink | i'm using the debian packaged ieee80211 stack, the latest release of the driver, firmware and debian |
| 03:59.49 | unlink | *firmware |
| 03:59.55 | unlink | *daemon |
| 04:00.02 | sid | Seb: date outputs time too |
| 04:00.02 | Seb | unlink: the ieee80211-source ocmpiled for you with m-a ? |
| 04:00.05 | sid | by default |
| 04:00.24 | Seb | sid: yet time time the whole thing in CPU time, user time, real time, etc... |
| 04:00.32 | Seb | s/time time/time times/ |
| 04:00.38 | sid | ahh, I see. yea that's better. |
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| 04:01.09 | Seb | sid: :} |
| 04:01.22 | Seb | hrm i simply meant ":)" |
| 04:01.29 | k-man_ | thanks sid |
| 04:01.32 | k | ok- I've never done a bug report before- I'll try |
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| 04:01.52 | sid | k: apt-get install reportbug; reportbug; |
| 04:01.58 | Seb | k: it's not gonna be standard, since it's not an official part of debian. Check his website. |
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| 04:02.10 | k | ok |
| 04:02.11 | k-man_ | the problem with the "time command" approach is you have to remember to do it |
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| 04:02.17 | Seb | sid: that won't work for flash |
| 04:02.42 | Seb | k-man_: make a build.sh wrapper |
| 04:02.48 | k-man_ | yeah |
| 04:02.51 | k-man_ | could do i guess |
| 04:03.06 | Seb | k-man_: shit, you could even alias make='time make' |
| 04:03.22 | k-man_ | hmm... now thats an interesting approach |
| 04:03.28 | Seb | heh |
| 04:03.44 | unlink | dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture i386 does not appear in package's list (amd64) |
| 04:03.54 | sid | Seb: flash? |
| 04:03.59 | unlink | Seb: this is the error m-a a-i ieee80211-source gives me |
| 04:04.01 | sid | Seb: eh, I guess I should read before I type. |
| 04:04.09 | Seb | sid: the flash plugin is not in debian |
| 04:04.37 | Seb | unlink: yeah it;s a known bug |
| 04:04.37 | larsbars | Q: is there a way to make apt-get ignore a dependency a package shouldn't have? i forced it (not an official package. sorry) with dpkg but now apt complains if i want to upgrade. --ignore-missing doesn't help. |
| 04:04.56 | Seb | larsbars: rebuild it without this dependency |
| 04:04.58 | unlink | Seb: what does that mean? i can't use wireless? |
| 04:05.10 | Seb | unlink: it means you're gonna have to compile them yourself |
| 04:05.17 | larsbars | seb: can i do that with the deb file? just say yes and i'll try to do that |
| 04:05.25 | sid | larsbars: 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 04:05.53 | larsbars | what does that do? |
| 04:06.02 | sid | doesn't let a package get upgraded by apt-get |
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| 04:06.05 | rxkaffee | larsbars, if you have all other dependencies worked out, you can dpkg -i --force-depends package.deb and it'll ignore the dependencies |
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| 04:06.12 | Seb | larsbars: apt-get source foo ; apt-get build-dep foo ; then cd foo-x.y.y, edit debian/control, and rebuild |
| 04:06.26 | Seb | larsbars: that's how you'd rebuild it |
| 04:06.29 | sid | larsbars: ignore me |
| 04:06.36 | sid | larsbars: What are you trying to do anyway? |
| 04:06.38 | larsbars | ahh, but i want to apt-get upgrade now. the package is emacs with pretty fonts. |
| 04:06.55 | sid | my reading skills aren't too good today, I'm jumping to conclusions after 3 words |
| 04:06.56 | larsbars | i installed somebody's version, and it depends on a package that's not available |
| 04:07.09 | sid | larsbars: version of what? |
| 04:07.15 | larsbars | emacs-xft-gtk |
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| 04:07.36 | sid | larsbars: What is the dependency? |
| 04:07.36 | larsbars | it's not a debian package |
| 04:07.41 | unlink | Seb: so do i need to rebuild the whole kernel? |
| 04:07.42 | larsbars | linux-kernel-headers |
| 04:08.09 | larsbars | but they conflict with libc6-dev or something |
| 04:08.14 | unlink | i built and installed ieee80211, but ipw3945 refuses to build now |
| 04:08.18 | sid | !ignore dependency |
| 04:08.42 | Seb | unlink: no |
| 04:09.02 | Seb | unlink: you just to follow the regular non-debian instructions in the README or whatever |
| 04:09.20 | larsbars | can i unbuild a deb, remove this silly dependency, and rebuild it? |
| 04:09.37 | Seb | larsbars: i told you how to do so in great detail |
| 04:09.41 | larsbars | oh |
| 04:09.57 | unlink | Seb: oh, i shouldn't be compiling what i got from apt-get source ieee80211? |
| 04:10.25 | Seb | unlink: not sure it's current enough |
| 04:10.36 | unlink | it is according to ipw3945.sf.net |
| 04:11.00 | unlink | i'll try the last one anyway |
| 04:11.01 | sid | larsbars: yea, do what Seb said. |
| 04:11.51 | larsbars | i'm on it! will report back soon. thank you. |
| 04:12.10 | k | OK- bug filed- Thank you. Is anyone else using Etch on 64 bit having flash crash firefox?? |
| 04:12.48 | unlink | Seb: "If you wish to use the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem then it is recommended to use that projects' "make patch_kernel" facility nd rebuild your kernel to update the Module symbol version information." |
| 04:12.51 | sussudio | !anyone |
| 04:12.52 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 04:13.08 | Xenguy | !die |
| 04:13.09 | dpkg | I'll murder you xenguy! Decapitate you and play snooker with your eyes! |
| 04:13.15 | Xenguy | excellent |
| 04:13.36 | stew | larsbars: if you are having a conflict with linux-kernel-headers and libc6-dev, its a sign that something else more serious is wrong. like you are trying to mix stable and testing/unstable (which you shouldnt' do) |
| 04:14.22 | predder | i just changed the hostname of a machine in /etc/hosts but it's still the original hostname on the login screen. Where else do I need to change it? |
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| 04:14.58 | unlink | predder: chage /etc/hostname and cat /etc/hostname >/proc/sys/kernel/hostname |
| 04:15.07 | stew | larsbars: can you put the output of "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev linux-kernel-headers" into a pastebin? |
| 04:15.24 | larsbars | stew: i'm mixing edcy and dapper and i'm in the wrong channel but you guys know what you're doing |
| 04:15.39 | larsbars | (and i mean to come back, since i'm not happy with it) |
| 04:16.00 | larsbars | so maybe the policy dump is inappropriate |
| 04:16.58 | Seb | yeah |
| 04:17.00 | larsbars | stew: i thought i could force it, but this is clearly a misbuilt package for hte wrong dist |
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| 04:19.01 | stew | larsbars: you should be asking #ubuntu, not us |
| 04:19.49 | Xenguy | wow - am I missing something? the latest U release seems to be somewhat disasterous :P |
| 04:20.31 | Xenguy | or maybe I'm just starting an ugly rumour in the wrong #channel :-) |
| 04:20.31 | Seb | Xenguy: how so ? |
| 04:20.41 | Xenguy | or maybe I'm just lagged |
| 04:21.01 | Xenguy | Seb: I see all kinds of problems being reported |
| 04:21.12 | Seb | Xenguy: link ? |
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| 04:21.32 | Xenguy | Seb: basically the irc channel and the forums so far :-/ |
| 04:21.40 | sid | larsbars: You're not supposed to mix packages on any distro. |
| 04:22.25 | larsbars | but nobody built an emacs with nice fonts for edgy (or unstable, as far as i can tell) |
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| 04:22.40 | sid | larsbars: next time just build from source, apt-get build-dep package; apt-get source package; that would have taken 2 minutes, instead of the 2 hours to fix dependency problems |
| 04:22.41 | Xenguy | Seb: but note: it is just a fuzzy impression so far :-) |
| 04:22.41 | Xenguy | Seb: hardware issues? |
| 04:23.04 | black_13 | will trying to set up a debian system i get the following error eth0: Too much work at interrupt, status 0x41 |
| 04:23.05 | sid | larsbars: and use a real editor. vi > * |
| 04:23.07 | predder | thanks unlink :) |
| 04:23.10 | sid | !start an editor war |
| 04:23.10 | dpkg | emacs sucks |
| 04:23.16 | Xenguy | .oO(I think I need another drink!) |
| 04:23.17 | larsbars | i'm not that tough |
| 04:23.25 | larsbars | and vi doesn't have preview-latex |
| 04:23.44 | larsbars | or maybe it does. can you tell me where to add it? |
| 04:23.47 | predder | !start a distro war |
| 04:23.48 | dpkg | Rock rox0rz! |
| 04:23.57 | predder | err =\ |
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| 04:25.31 | inkypinky | unlink: dont use m-a to build the ieee80211 packages nor download the modules just donload from website and compile and make install |
| 04:26.08 | lontra | how do i set up my fstab so that i can have my vfat partition automounted? i know that dpkg has some factoid...i can't remember what it is |
| 04:26.19 | sid | !tell lontra about vfatrw |
| 04:26.20 | unlink | inkypinky: that's what i've done |
| 04:27.11 | inkypinky | unlink: did u remove the debian kernel 80211 stuff when the make install script asked u to |
| 04:27.14 | sid | larsbars: /join #vi |
| 04:27.15 | unlink | yes |
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| 04:28.08 | lontra | thanks sid |
| 04:28.26 | larsbars | when i build a deb from source, how do i change the configuration options? i can't find the idiots version of the manual |
| 04:28.50 | sid | larsbars: ./configure --help |
| 04:29.00 | unlink | i get the following error on bootup: select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
| 04:29.02 | Seb | larsbars: *i* *told* *you* |
| 04:29.20 | Seb | sid: he don't need that, he means change the dependencies of the package |
| 04:29.39 | inkypinky | unlink: did u pass the IEEE80211_INC=/path to ur dlled IEEE to the ipw3945 make |
| 04:29.48 | larsbars | hold on hold on. i'm going to learn everything i need to after i read this debian/control file, aren't i... |
| 04:29.50 | unlink | and i cannot set my clock with ntpdate (i get the error no server suitable for synchronization found) |
| 04:29.53 | sid | larsbars: Seb told you. and *i* *told* *you* *that* *Seb* *told* *you* |
| 04:29.54 | unlink | inkypinky: yes |
| 04:30.15 | Seb | sid: heheh |
| 04:30.17 | sid | unlink: ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 04:30.29 | inkypinky | unlink: so what does dmesg say when u insmod the kernel |
| 04:30.50 | unlink | sid same error there |
| 04:31.00 | larsbars | there is no place in debian/control that has a place for me to "./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk --with-xft=yes" |
| 04:31.08 | sid | unlink: Are you connected to the internet? |
| 04:31.36 | sid | the intrawebs |
| 04:31.43 | Xenguy | nobody here but us chickens... |
| 04:31.45 | unlink | inkypinky: it lets me insmod and even iwconfig gets the device, but i just get this error when i set an essid: eth1: skb too small (0). |
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| 04:31.54 | unlink | sid: well, it's this computer that has the time issue... |
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| 04:32.21 | unlink | time.nist.gov has the same issue |
| 04:32.27 | inkypinky | unlink: are u trying to use wpa ? |
| 04:32.29 | unlink | no |
| 04:32.58 | inkypinky | try manually inserting the ieee modules using modconf |
| 04:33.17 | inkypinky | sometimes some needed kernels are skipped |
| 04:33.21 | inkypinky | i mean modules |
| 04:34.01 | unlink | i don't need the modules loaded to compile the driver |
| 04:34.37 | inkypinky | no u dont |
| 04:34.39 | unlink | er, the driver i compiled and tried using was compiled with stock debian ieee80211 stack |
| 04:35.27 | inkypinky | there are some extensions missing from the stock debian stuff from what I cud make out I may be wrong tho |
| 04:36.02 | sid | Who needs help inkypinky or unlink? |
| 04:36.10 | inkypinky | unlink: |
| 04:36.25 | sid | inkypinky: You compiling something? |
| 04:36.51 | inkypinky | nope did that already and got it working |
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| 04:37.02 | unlink | sid: i do |
| 04:37.19 | sid | unlink: What is your problem? What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 04:38.11 | unlink | sid: i'm trying to get wireless working with an ipw3945. the problem is that i can't get a dhcp lease; i'm getting the error eth1: skb too small (0). every few seconds after setting the essid with iwconfig in my dmesg |
| 04:38.34 | sid | unlink: wep or wpa enforced? |
| 04:38.36 | unlink | no |
| 04:38.48 | sid | unlink: You sure? did you check your gateway web interface? |
| 04:38.55 | unlink | i'm positive |
| 04:39.05 | inkypinky | unlink: are you using fram bursting mode ?? |
| 04:39.11 | sid | unlink: Does iwlist scanning show your essid? |
| 04:39.32 | unlink | yes |
| 04:39.34 | unlink | inkypinky: no |
| 04:39.54 | sid | unlink: iwconfig eth1 essid "blah"; dhclient eth1; |
| 04:40.00 | sid | unlink: make sure the essid is in quotes |
| 04:40.09 | unlink | won't make a differenc |
| 04:40.13 | unlink | there are no spaces in it |
| 04:40.21 | sid | it still matters |
| 04:40.37 | unlink | no, it's not passed to iwconfig, the quotes are stripped out by the shell |
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| 04:42.08 | unlink | either way, i tried to fix it by installing the latest ieee80211 stack from the sf page; but now i cannot load the module or compile it |
| 04:42.34 | unlink | (they of course disagree on a number of ieee80211 symbols) |
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| 04:46.14 | abrocadabro | how do you download a package with apt-get without installing it? |
| 04:46.42 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get -d install package; cd /var/cache/apt/archives; ls; |
| 04:47.00 | sid | abrocadabro: What are you trying to do anyway? |
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| 04:47.34 | abrocadabro | sid: I want to downgrade my dbus from unstable to testing, have some issues with xgl |
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| 04:48.15 | sid | !tell abrocadabro about snapshot |
| 04:48.15 | abrocadabro | sid: it said dbus is already the newest version |
| 04:48.21 | Seb | !downgrading |
| 04:48.21 | dpkg | from memory, downgrading is something you do NOT want to do if you're not an expert. some important files might move from a package to an other during an upgrade (eg: /sbin/ldconfig moved from ldso to libc6 during potato->woody). if you downgrade to former packages that couldn't know that fact, you might lose these files (if you lost /sbin/ldconfig , no lib package can install correctly, including libc6 !). There are other problems for sure... |
| 04:49.04 | lanb | !dependency |
| 04:49.05 | dpkg | somebody said dependency was a package needed by another package. Dependencies are pointed out by dpkg. Dependencies are resolved by apt-get. called a dependency for a good reason |
| 04:49.05 | sid | yea, I'm with Seb on this one. downgrading seems like a bad idea. and I don't see how this could fix xgl. Your problem most likely is elsewhere. |
| 04:50.13 | abrocadabro | sid: it is looking for libdbus-1.so.2 but I only have libdbus-1.so.3 |
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| 04:50.47 | sid | abrocadabro: So compile from source. |
| 04:50.54 | sid | that is 10x easier then downgrading |
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| 04:51.28 | sid | abrocadabro: What video card chipset are you using? |
| 04:52.23 | sid | abrocadabro: /msg dpkg es |
| 04:52.33 | sid | Dark_Sith: /msg dpkg es |
| 04:52.34 | abrocadabro | sid: intel mobile 945GM on a thinkpad |
| 04:52.49 | sid | Dark_Sith: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 04:52.58 | SPOPPO | Hello |
| 04:52.58 | sid | abrocadabro: So why are you messing with xgl? |
| 04:53.01 | sid | abrocadabro: You want aiglx. |
| 04:53.04 | sid | !greet SPOPPO |
| 04:53.05 | dpkg | Nihao, SPOPPO |
| 04:53.19 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get install compiz; |
| 04:53.23 | abrocadabro | sid: I am trying to install xgl |
| 04:53.25 | sid | abrocadabro: Tell me if that works, I don't know if it's in testing yet. |
| 04:53.33 | sid | abrocadabro: That is silly. you want aiglx not xgl |
| 04:53.58 | sid | abrocadabro: xgl is a hack for the sake of proprietary video card drivers. You already have X 7.1(right?) and you have aiglx by default. |
| 04:54.12 | sid | abrocadabro: You just need the compiz packages(already in debian) and you'll have 3d shit in no time. |
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| 04:54.51 | abrocadabro | sid: I am actually running unstable, testing doesn't have direct rendering for my card |
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| 04:55.21 | sid | abrocadabro: ok, show me your sources.list on www.rafb.net/paste |
| 04:55.29 | sid | abrocadabro: I'll help you get your desktop spinning like a cube ok? |
| 04:55.40 | abrocadabro | sid: great, thanks |
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| 04:57.53 | xjkx | i want to control+f2 on kde and execute xterm and call it with the arguments i want, i tried to add on bashrc a line 'alias xtermz="xterm -argument" but exec dialog doesnt work |
| 04:58.09 | xjkx | i dont know how to link softwares+arguments neither |
| 04:58.24 | unlink | how do i make this error go away: WARNING: Your kernel contains ieee80211 symbol definitions and you are not using the kernel's default ieee80211 subsystem. (Perhaps you used the out-of-tree ieee80211 subsystem's 'make install' or have provided a path to the ieee80211 subsystem via IEEE80211_INC.) |
| 04:58.40 | unlink | i have since remove --purged my kernel image and reinstalled it |
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| 04:59.33 | sid | abrocadabro: You can put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on http://debian.pastebin.com ? |
| 04:59.37 | sid | bleh |
| 04:59.39 | sid | heh |
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| 05:00.11 | sid | xjkx: /join #kde |
| 05:00.29 | chris_ | sid: I was on a mac actually, here we go, this is abrocadabro, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nxLtNV43.html |
| 05:00.50 | xittum | sid: so if i run xorg 7.1 i just need to install compiz and maybe drivers (if useing the nvida PC) ?.. its hat really it? |
| 05:01.11 | sid | xittum: yes |
| 05:01.13 | chris_ | how do I change my name back? |
| 05:01.24 | sid | xittum: Then just compiz --replace & in your terminal, and you'll have compiz |
| 05:01.36 | sid | chris_: /nick abrocadabro |
| 05:01.37 | xittum | sid: ahh.. now i know what i will have to test when i wake up again :) |
| 05:01.57 | xittum | "compiz --replace &" ? |
| 05:01.57 | sid | abrocadabro: Are you on sid or etch? |
| 05:02.01 | sid | xittum: yes. |
| 05:02.04 | abrocadabro | sid: etch |
| 05:02.11 | xittum | :) |
| 05:02.17 | sid | abrocadabro: dpkg -al|grep -i xserver-org|head -1 |
| 05:02.19 | sid | show me that line |
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| 05:02.43 | abrocadabro | sid: returns nothing |
| 05:03.08 | abrocadabro | sid: but I do have xorg installed |
| 05:03.51 | abrocadabro | ssid: typo , ii xserver-xorg 7.0.22 the X.Org X server |
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| 05:04.28 | sid | abrocadabro: ahh. etch doesn't have x 7.1 yet |
| 05:04.55 | sid | hmm, I wonder when the general etch freeze will be. I wonder if X 7.1 will even ship with etch |
| 05:05.19 | abrocadabro | sid: I followed some guy's instructions and got all required packages installed |
| 05:05.27 | abrocadabro | sid: they are converted from rpms |
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| 05:05.44 | sid | abrocadabro: The easiest way to get compiz is upgrade to unstable. |
| 05:05.49 | litage | how do you tell strace to not truncate arguments? for instance, strace spat out 0.000083 read(3, "<?php\nsession_start();\ninclude_o"..., 4096) = 461 but the 2nd arg to read() is truncated |
| 05:05.58 | abrocadabro | sid: I am using unstable |
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| 05:06.08 | sid | abrocadabro: no, you're using test. |
| 05:06.09 | sid | ing |
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| 05:06.15 | sid | abrocadabro: testing is not unstable. they are different. |
| 05:06.26 | abrocadabro | sid: do I change etch to sid? |
| 05:06.29 | sid | abrocadabro: yes |
| 05:06.37 | sid | abrocadabro: first do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrad;e |
| 05:06.48 | sid | make sure you have the latest etch packages, then change etch to sid and do the same two commands |
| 05:07.16 | abrocadabro | sid: doing it right now |
| 05:08.01 | sid | abrocadabro: etch will be the next version of debian.(it will become stable, then freeze and never change except very small security/bug fixes) |
| 05:08.11 | sid | The reason debian stable is so solid and "stable" is because it doesn't change. |
| 05:08.29 | sid | So every couple years or so, "testing" becomes stable. so etch will be stable, and a new name for "testing" will be created. |
| 05:08.43 | sid | And "sid", or "unstable" is the development branch of debian. that the developers use. |
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| 05:09.27 | Guerin | abrocadabro gets told this every few months, and seens unable to allow the information to make any impact |
| 05:09.59 | sid | Thing of 3 stages of development for debian, "experimental" branch which is BLEEDING edge, more hardcore then unstable. unstable is development branch, pretty hardcore, but the developers take care of themselves and it's fairly solid. |
| 05:10.18 | sid | Then testing, which will become the next stable one day and become frozen except small security/bug patches. |
| 05:10.37 | sid | so stable doesn't change, testing is getting ready to become stable, unstable is developers branch, and experimental is BLEEDING edge |
| 05:10.56 | sid | s/Thing/Think/ |
| 05:11.34 | Kevin` | what becomes testing when testing becomes stabe |
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| 05:11.51 | sid | Kevin`: a snapshot of unstable is taken and a new name is given to testing |
| 05:11.54 | buu | I FUCKING LIVE |
| 05:11.58 | sid | from the toy story movie |
| 05:12.57 | sid | I'm hoping for "lenny" |
| 05:13.04 | sid | etch+1 == lenny |
| 05:13.07 | sid | (hopefully) |
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| 05:13.35 | sid | sid is the only human character from the movie |
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| 05:13.52 | sid | sid is the only human character from the movie that's got a debian name* |
| 05:14.03 | sid | etch+1 could use one of the other human character names, that would be crazy. |
| 05:14.19 | sid | like "Andy" or "Molly" |
| 05:14.41 | sid | or "Hannah"(sid's sister), haha that would be hilarious |
| 05:14.50 | sid | Ubuntu == Hannah |
| 05:14.53 | Stevie-O | etch++ |
| 05:15.03 | sid | !start a distro war |
| 05:15.04 | dpkg | Kubuntu rox0rz! |
| 05:15.05 | Stevie-O | mrspotato |
| 05:15.22 | Stevie-O | !start an mta war |
| 05:15.22 | dpkg | exim sucks |
| 05:15.27 | abrocadabro | sid: in the mean time, do you know what I should do to get the system to autostart ipw3945-start when the module gets loaded? |
| 05:15.29 | rxkaffee | hmm, etch++would be etches... |
| 05:15.33 | rxkaffee | I say lets go with etches! |
| 05:15.44 | abrocadabro | sid: when ipw3945 gets loaded |
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| 05:16.28 | bismark | alguien sabe como mandar un message a un usuario que este logeado? |
| 05:16.30 | bismark | sorry |
| 05:16.59 | sid | abrocadabro: echo "#!/bin/bash" > /etc/init.d/ipw3945; echo "ipw3945-start" >> /etc/init.d/ipw3945; chmod +x /etc/init.d/ipw3945; ln -s /etc/init.d/ipw3945 /etc/rc2.d/S90ipw; |
| 05:17.21 | sid | bismark: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
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| 05:19.34 | bismark | some can tell me how i can send a message to another user logged in? |
| 05:20.02 | Rhizome | write |
| 05:20.06 | pstickne | you can try talk too. |
| 05:20.16 | sid | bismark: apt-get install inetutils-talkd; man tal; |
| 05:20.18 | sid | bismark: apt-get install inetutils-talkd; man talk; |
| 05:20.37 | pstickne | but it's generally easier just to send an email I think ;) |
| 05:20.51 | Rhizome | hehe |
| 05:21.03 | bismark | sid, thanks, |
| 05:21.11 | unlink | okay |
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| 05:21.18 | unlink | so how do i start over |
| 05:21.41 | unlink | and sanitize all of my kernel-related stuff |
| 05:22.06 | Stevie-O | You could call him up :D |
| 05:22.11 | Stevie-O | bismark |
| 05:22.16 | xjkx | dudes, all my terminals are with "user ~ $" in yellow, hate it, cant i remove? |
| 05:22.29 | sid | unlink: What distribution of GNU/Linux? |
| 05:22.33 | bismark | Stevie-O, what??? |
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| 05:22.43 | rxkaffee | xjkx, try specifying a color directive in your .bashrc? |
| 05:23.04 | rxkaffee | xjkx, I can paste you an example from my default one if you wish |
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| 05:23.30 | xjkx | i have no .bashrc ;o so i wonder, where is it setting this collor/the kernel?yea i would like, then i would create one .bashrc |
| 05:23.44 | unlink | sid: testing |
| 05:23.50 | sid | xjkx: /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 05:23.58 | sid | unlink: What architecture? |
| 05:24.08 | xjkx | i have bashrc in /;etc sid, but says nothing about yellow collor =o |
| 05:24.53 | unlink | Linux lambda 2.6.17-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Sep 13 16:34:10 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 05:24.53 | abrocadabro | sid: should I also restart? |
| 05:24.53 | xjkx | sid -f /etc/profile ] && . /etc/profile all that have there |
| 05:24.53 | abrocadabro | sid: it's finished |
| 05:24.53 | unlink | i have a yonah processor |
| 05:24.57 | rxkaffee | xjkx, all that funky [\033[00m\] type crap is the colors I believe |
| 05:25.18 | sid | unlink: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17-2-686; reboot; |
| 05:25.29 | unlink | it's installed; plus i need smp |
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| 05:25.42 | unlink | and the issue is that some stuff is corrupted |
| 05:25.56 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get install compiz-gnome compiz-plugins |
| 05:26.02 | sid | abrocadabro: Show me uname -r; |
| 05:26.16 | xjkx | i have no \033 thing, rxkaffee paste your config then i put on .bashrc |
| 05:26.31 | sid | abrocadabro: no need to reboot in GNU/Linux unless we're changing kernels. all you'd have to do is control alt backspace to restart X. |
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| 05:27.43 | abrocadabro | sid: it has a conflict, /usr/lib/compiz/libcute.so is also in compiz |
| 05:27.55 | sid | abrocadabro: remove packages you messed with |
| 05:28.26 | sid | abrocadabro: dpkg -S /usr/lib/compiz/libcute.so |
| 05:28.28 | sid | remove that package |
| 05:30.31 | sid | abrocadabro: What does uname -r show? |
| 05:30.47 | abrocadabro | sid: I installed compiz package from a rpm converted package, and now it doesn't remove any more |
| 05:30.59 | Miesco | How would I turn underscores into spaces? |
| 05:31.01 | sid | abrocadabro: show me dpkg -S /usr/lib/compiz/libcute.so |
| 05:31.02 | Miesco | In file names |
| 05:31.12 | abrocadabro | sid: 2.6.17-2686 |
| 05:31.24 | abrocadabro | sid: returns nothing |
| 05:31.38 | abrocadabro | sid: not found |
| 05:31.41 | sid | abrocadabro: ls -al /usr/lib/compiz/libcute.so |
| 05:31.58 | sparr | Miesco: rename 's/_/ /g' *; <--- or something similar |
| 05:32.14 | Miesco | sparr: rename, the perl script? |
| 05:32.17 | sparr | yes |
| 05:32.28 | sid | Miesco: find . -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/_/ /g' |
| 05:32.30 | sparr | the mysteries of PCREs elude me, but im sure what you want ispossible and easy |
| 05:32.41 | abrocadabro | sid:/usr/lib/compiz/libcube.so -> libcube.so.0.0.0 |
| 05:32.57 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get remove --purge libcube.so.0.0.0 |
| 05:33.09 | Miesco | K thanks :) |
| 05:33.31 | abrocadabro | sid: apt-get remove --purge libcube.so.0.0.0 |
| 05:33.40 | abrocadabro | sid: Couldn't find package libcube.so.0.0.0 |
| 05:34.07 | sid | abrocadabro: dpkg -al|grep -i cube |
| 05:34.21 | abrocadabro | sid: nothing |
| 05:34.33 | sid | o wait, I'm a retard |
| 05:34.43 | abrocadabro | sid: maybe I need to remove compiz, it is not a debian package |
| 05:34.53 | sid | abrocadabro: yes remove that; apt-get remove --purge compiz |
| 05:35.12 | abrocadabro | sid: compiz-gtk: Depends: compiz-core (= 0.2.0-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 05:35.38 | sid | abrocadabro: remove all that crap |
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| 05:35.55 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get remove --purge compiz-gtk compiz-plugins compiz-core compiz compiz-gnome |
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| 05:35.55 | peterS | abrocadabro: if you use 'aptitude purge' instead of 'apt-get remove', I think it handles the dependency stuff better |
| 05:35.59 | Chandu | hi |
| 05:36.19 | sid | !greet Chandu |
| 05:36.19 | dpkg | Moo, Chandu |
| 05:36.28 | abrocadabro | sid: done |
| 05:36.34 | Chandu | How do I create "Packages" file for sarge from the pool of the debian mirror |
| 05:36.47 | tuv | what's with Moo'ing in irc? |
| 05:37.04 | sid | abrocadabro: apt-get install compiz-gnome compiz-plugins; then restart X(by control alt backspace), make sure 3d accel works(glxinfo|grep direct) then compiz --replace &; |
| 05:37.29 | sid | Chandu: You type "apt-get update" ? |
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| 05:38.22 | Chandu | sid, 'apt-get update' will scan the repo , |
| 05:38.22 | abrocadabro | sid: might leave you then come back |
| 05:38.22 | sid | Chandu: Do you want the apt-mirror package? |
| 05:38.28 | sid | Chandu: You want to be a mirror, or run your own mirror? |
| 05:38.41 | Chandu | sid, ya I want my own mirror |
| 05:39.03 | sid | Chandu: apt-get install apt-mirror |
| 05:39.12 | Chandu | sid, I know to create the mirror and its index files using dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 05:39.52 | Chandu | sid, Suppose in pool I have all the packages needed for sarge ,etch adn sid |
| 05:40.07 | abrocadabro | sid: no composite extension |
| 05:40.12 | Chandu | sid, But I want to create Packages file for only sarge ..means with lower version packaegs |
| 05:40.18 | sid | Chandu: I've never mirrored before. So I don't really have a clue. |
| 05:40.26 | sid | abrocadabro: Modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:40.31 | Chandu | sid, ok |
| 05:40.50 | sid | abrocadabro: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" |
| 05:40.52 | sid | EndSection |
| 05:40.59 | sid | Add that(in three lines) at the bottom) |
| 05:41.30 | sid | abrocadabro: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/UF38YK30.html |
| 05:41.48 | sid | abrocadabro: hmm, that's strange. gravity's x.org package should automatically have those lines in x.org already though. |
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| 05:42.06 | sid | unless you kept your old x.org 7.0 config when dialogue asked you when you dist-upgraded. |
| 05:42.18 | sid | But I don't think you would even be asked, it was probably a forced overwrite by dpkg anyway |
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| 05:43.05 | abrocadabro | sid: it didn't ask me anything, try again |
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| 05:45.33 | abrocadabro | sid: it worked ! |
| 05:45.37 | sid | abrocadabro: great |
| 05:45.50 | sid | abrocadabro: hold control and alt, then with the left mouse button click and drag |
| 05:45.55 | abrocadabro | sid: thanks man |
| 05:46.01 | sid | abrocadabro: hold control and alt, and with the mouse wheel scroll up and down |
| 05:46.32 | abrocadabro | sid: cool, cubic effect |
| 05:46.47 | abrocadabro | sid: does that mean every time I have to compiz --replace & |
| 05:47.04 | sid | abrocadabro: Well by default gnome's window manager is metacity |
| 05:47.21 | sid | abrocadabro: I'm not sure where the setting for gnome is to change the window manager to compiz. |
| 05:48.09 | sid | abrocadabro: You could go to Desktop/preferences/session/startup programs, and add that command |
| 05:48.14 | abrocadabro | sid: maybe I can just put that in my start up program |
| 05:48.15 | sid | But that seems like not the proper way. |
| 05:48.34 | sid | abrocadabro: hit up irc.gnome.org and ask in #gnome , they'll know. |
| 05:48.57 | abrocadabro | sid: cool, I'll do that now |
| 05:49.40 | unlink | what's the most surefire, failsafe way to get this wireless card working? |
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| 05:50.14 | sid | abrocadabro: gnome-session-properties; go to current session, remove metacity and put compiz or something(be careful) |
| 05:50.28 | sid | That's probably the proper way to do it. I don't know gnome that well. |
| 05:50.49 | sid | unlink: install windows me? |
| 05:51.38 | unlink | not familiar with that package, is it in apt? |
| 05:51.59 | abrocadabro | sid: I don't have metacity |
| 05:52.13 | abrocadabro | sid: I have gnome-session-properties at the top |
| 05:52.16 | sid | abrocadabro: scroll down to the bottom |
| 05:52.32 | abrocadabro | sid: can't find it |
| 05:52.56 | abrocadabro | sid: I have nautilus if that's what you want |
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| 05:53.51 | sid | abrocadabro: no idea. hit up irc.gnome.org, or just /join #gnome on here. or #xgl on here also |
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| 05:59.48 | AI_coder | is there a buffer overflow protection program wrapper for debian |
| 05:59.50 | AI_coder | ? |
| 06:00.16 | rxkaffee | vi+fixyourcode? |
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| 06:00.32 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: try libssp0; I don't know how well it works, if at all. |
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| 06:01.26 | AI_coder | what's it do? |
| 06:01.37 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: apt-cache show; is your friend. |
| 06:02.32 | AI_coder | not there |
| 06:02.38 | AI_coder | libossp? |
| 06:03.03 | sid | AI_coder: use selinux and make a good policy? chroot? permissions? groups? |
| 06:03.14 | dondelelcaro | !+info libssp0 |
| 06:03.16 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 06:03.21 | dpkg | libssp0: (GCC stack smashing protection library), section libs, is optional. Version: 4.1.1-17 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 12 kB |
| 06:04.37 | AI_coder | wow, been a while since an update, hopefully it's there |
| 06:04.58 | sid | dondelelcaro: thanks for setting up dpkg. it's awesome. saves everyone a ton of time and makes it easier to get help. thanks |
| 06:05.37 | dondelelcaro | sid: thanks... but I'm only partially to blame |
| 06:06.22 | AI_coder | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.29 | AI_coder | apt-cache search libssp --> nothing |
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| 06:06.52 | AI_coder | are you using a special apt source? |
| 06:06.57 | AI_coder | I've got kernel.org sid |
| 06:06.59 | dondelelcaro | it's called unstable. |
| 06:07.31 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libssp0 <-- helps too... |
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| 06:07.58 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: but in any event, most of things that can be done pale in comparison to fixing the code, which is what you should do anyway. |
| 06:08.17 | dondelelcaro | libssp0 just makes it more difficult to exploit a stack smash; it doesn't actually prevent one |
| 06:08.31 | dondelelcaro | (ie, it turns them into a DoS instead of a 'sploit) |
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| 06:08.46 | AI_coder | dondelelcaro: Are you aware that firefox has vulnerabilities as well as bash? |
| 06:08.54 | AI_coder | Perhaps you can go and fix them and save the world. |
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| 06:08.58 | AI_coder | :D |
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| 06:09.17 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: every bit of code has vulnerabilities; some major, some minor. When you see them, you fix them. |
| 06:09.31 | AI_coder | so let me get this straight... |
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| 06:10.23 | AI_coder | you want to save all the code on your machine rather than use insecure apps securely? |
| 06:10.52 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: uh.. excuse me? |
| 06:11.05 | AI_coder | I'm saying you don't understand the size of the projects. |
| 06:11.29 | AI_coder | Like I said, you go fix all the vulnerabilities. |
| 06:11.30 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: I believe I'm quite familiar with the size of most of the major projects whose packages are in Debian. |
| 06:11.37 | dondelelcaro | probably far more familiar than you are |
| 06:11.52 | AI_coder | dondelelcaro: That's great, now go fix them all. |
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| 06:12.29 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: If I see vulnerabilities, I fix them. |
| 06:12.45 | AI_coder | dondelelcaro: Who wouldn't? |
| 06:12.59 | dondelelcaro | AI_coder: so what's the problem? If you want to use libssp0, use it. |
| 06:13.46 | AI_coder | dondelelcaro: The problem is that you babble like you're some kind of know it all that believes one person can fix all the software they use yet you can't do it yourself. |
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| 06:15.04 | liable | doh! |
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| 06:15.10 | sid | hehehe |
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| 06:16.44 | sid | AI_coder: You should try to show more respect to people who spend generously spend their time trying to help you. |
| 06:16.57 | sid | s/who spend/who/ |
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| 06:17.18 | unclouded | has anyone here installed Debian dual boot with Windows using a non-English language? |
| 06:17.24 | liable | and learn who the ops are so you dont insult them :) |
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| 06:18.11 | sid | !tell unclouded about anyone |
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| 06:18.20 | sid | !tell unclouded about ask |
| 06:18.29 | black_13 | during the startup on one of my debian machines i am constantly asked to Give root password for maintainance |
| 06:18.31 | liable | unclouded: whats your native tongue? theres prolly a channel for it where you might get some help |
| 06:18.54 | dondelelcaro | black_13: that usually means that you've got a machine which has drives that need to be fsck'ed. |
| 06:19.06 | sid | unclouded: Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 06:19.24 | unclouded | liable: English, but i'm installing for a Hungarian mate |
| 06:19.37 | deeem | unclouded: get him to learn english |
| 06:19.43 | unclouded | sid: thanks for that pointer |
| 06:20.04 | dondelelcaro | unclouded: yeah; you (in theory) should be able to select the proper language on the first screen, and have the rest of the install work in the proper language. |
| 06:20.04 | liable | unclouded: try #debian-hr or is it #debian.hr ? |
| 06:20.13 | black_13 | the machine seems running fine |
| 06:20.14 | dondelelcaro | unclouded: not everything will be translated, but more and more of it will be |
| 06:20.31 | dondelelcaro | black_13: it'll run, but it will keep asking you for the root password on boot until you fix the drives. |
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| 06:21.23 | black_13 | hum im worried about loosing the work i have on the machine ... i just installed everything |
| 06:21.32 | xittum | black_13: http://tomse.dyndns.dk/linux/hullet/diverse/harddisk_fsck |
| 06:21.43 | dondelelcaro | black_13: fsck'ing shouldn't do that. |
| 06:21.57 | liable | unclouded: actually, joining that channel is prolly no good if you dont speak it .. /me slaps head |
| 06:22.03 | black_13 | here is a segment of the output http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CCSzbo21.html |
| 06:22.10 | nachos | how can i make debian give me a terminal to log in and not gdm/xdm? |
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| 06:22.36 | unclouded | the Hungarian translation is great. i would like to know if the latest installer uses the utf8 option for entries in /etc/fstab for vfat file systems |
| 06:22.36 | liable | nachos: do you just want to do it temporarily or always? |
| 06:22.42 | nachos | allways liable |
| 06:22.52 | liable | nachos: remove the offending dm's |
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| 06:23.06 | xittum | update-rc.d -f xdm remove ? |
| 06:23.17 | nachos | liable: isnt there a initrd flag i can set or something like that? |
| 06:23.17 | unclouded | when they save files with non-latin characters in Windows, they can't read those files in Debian |
| 06:23.22 | sjr | I am currently using Network Manager on my notebook, however when I suspend it seems to take a ridonculous amount of time to reconnect to a network so much so that I mine as well not use it. Is there anyway I can speed it up? |
| 06:23.26 | liable | xittum: those links will be recreated next package upgrade though |
| 06:23.54 | rxkaffee | nachos, you can append '2' to your grub kernel options |
| 06:24.02 | dondelelcaro | unclouded: I don't know what the default is, but you can always change it |
| 06:24.03 | xittum | liable: well just good old prge then :) |
| 06:24.08 | xittum | *purge |
| 06:24.11 | rxkaffee | nachos, I believe that should work for the debian kerenel to boot you into runlevel 2 |
| 06:24.14 | liable | nachos: not initrd, no. sysvconfig or one of the others can prolly stop it, but i dont know why you dont want to remove the packages |
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| 06:24.29 | liable | xittum: ya, easiest solution :) |
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| 06:24.47 | dondelelcaro | unclouded: I believe it's probably still codepage 441, because I think that's what the vfat default is... (or was?) |
| 06:25.10 | liable | rxkaffee: runlevel 2 is the default run level anyway |
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| 06:26.04 | rxkaffee | liable, wtf is debian doing with graphical interface on runlevel 2?? runlevel 2 is supposed to be for text-mode only, runlevel 5(or is it 6?) is supposed to be for graphical |
| 06:26.13 | unclouded | dondelelcaro: i've no idea when the code page should be, but adding the utf8 option fixed it for me but damaged the reputation of Debian with my friend so i wondered if the latest installer uses utf8 by default or if not, if it should |
| 06:26.21 | dondelelcaro | !tell rxkaffee -about runlevels |
| 06:26.26 | rxkaffee | or has runlevel practices changed recently? |
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| 06:27.13 | dondelelcaro | unclouded: I don't know; it probably shouldn't, because I don't think utf8 is the default for vfat. |
| 06:27.18 | liable | rxkaffee: yes, its changed recently if you have just come over from redhat/slackland :) |
| 06:27.43 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: defining what runlevels mean what is the domain of the system administrator, not the distribution; feel free to make runlevel 2 mean whatever you want it to mean. |
| 06:28.15 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: by default, Debian assumes that if you installed it, you want it to run in all runlevels. |
| 06:28.23 | dondelelcaro | (well, all 2-5 runlevels) |
| 06:28.43 | rxkaffee | I thought there was a standardized runlevel structure published by the same orginization that publishes the directory structure standards |
| 06:29.08 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: the standardized runlevel structure is 0 is halt, 1 is single user 2-5 are undefined, and 6 is reboot. |
| 06:29.12 | nachos | now, why pratel does debian load _THREE_ web servers on boot, WHY?!?!?! |
| 06:29.21 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: any further granualrity is up to you. |
| 06:29.22 | nachos | is debian mentally challenged? |
| 06:29.27 | dondelelcaro | nachos: uh... wtf? |
| 06:29.28 | rxkaffee | ah ok |
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| 06:29.36 | rxkaffee | thnx for clearing that up dondelelcaro |
| 06:29.41 | liable | nachos: what are you talking about? |
| 06:29.47 | nachos | yeah, deb loads apache, apache2, apache-ssl, and thttpd. |
| 06:29.50 | nachos | on boot. |
| 06:29.58 | dondelelcaro | nachos: because you installed all three of them |
| 06:30.03 | dondelelcaro | hell, you installed all four. |
| 06:30.09 | nachos | heh |
| 06:30.17 | nachos | okay, how can i stop them from loading at boot? |
| 06:30.28 | dondelelcaro | nachos: remove them, or turn them off... |
| 06:30.31 | dondelelcaro | !tell nachos -about runlevels |
| 06:30.37 | nachos | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 06:31.04 | liable | hrm, i wouldnt have thought you could install four packages that provide httpd |
| 06:31.06 | xittum | sysv-rc-conf = really nice cli tool to work with runlevels nachos |
| 06:31.14 | dondelelcaro | liable: yeah; provides don't conflict |
| 06:31.27 | liable | but, yeah yeah i see that |
| 06:32.57 | liable | s/yeah/ / |
| 06:33.56 | nachos | thanks xittum |
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| 06:35.56 | Jubei_ | guys hi. I wanna install mysql 5+ on my debian system but it requires a newer version of libc6 to compile |
| 06:36.09 | Jubei_ | will installing a newer libc break anything? |
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| 06:36.26 | nachos | Jubei_: Use postgres instead, all will be great ;-) |
| 06:36.26 | Jubei_ | coz i've compiled other software with the existing libc |
| 06:36.36 | dondelelcaro | Jubei_: you're better off installing a backport of mysql5 |
| 06:36.40 | nachos | how can i resolve hostnames on the command line? |
| 06:36.50 | dondelelcaro | nachos: host or dig or nslookup or ... |
| 06:36.55 | Jubei_ | nachos: dig + short hostname |
| 06:37.03 | Jubei_ | dig +short hostname |
| 06:38.06 | nachos | hurm. |
| 06:38.16 | nachos | When trying to call dig i get 'command not found' |
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| 06:38.54 | dondelelcaro | Jubei_: see backports.org for an example |
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| 06:40.16 | nachos | ARGH |
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| 06:41.43 | nachos | should debian come with nslookup in base? |
| 06:41.48 | nachos | for some reason i don't have it |
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| 06:42.18 | dondelelcaro | nachos: no, it doesn't. You have to install it. You probably want dns-utils, FE. |
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| 06:42.37 | rxkaffee | traceroute wouldn't happen to be in a funkily named package like that too, would it? |
| 06:42.56 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: it's in traceroute iirc. |
| 06:43.11 | rxkaffee | ah... yea there it is |
| 06:43.14 | dondelelcaro | !tell rxkaffee -about pdo |
| 06:43.19 | rxkaffee | hmm, dunno why it couldnt find it earlier |
| 06:43.29 | rxkaffee | prb had the wrong repositorys listed in my sources file |
| 06:43.43 | nachos | Hurm. |
| 06:44.24 | nachos | hurm. |
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| 06:44.49 | nachos | wtf is this shit |
| 06:44.50 | bintut | hello all.. can i ask your suggestion? fluxbox or openbox? |
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| 06:45.01 | nachos | 'temporty failure resolving ftp.debian.org' |
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| 06:45.05 | dondelelcaro | bintut: ion3? |
| 06:45.36 | bintut | i'm looking for a minimal desktop but easy to use.. much better if i can put shortcut launchers.. |
| 06:45.59 | bintut | dondelelcaro: another minimal desktop? |
| 06:46.11 | nachos | FFS |
| 06:46.17 | dondelelcaro | bintut: ion3 is pretty minimal, and more importantly, it requires little mouse input |
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| 06:46.31 | nachos | I keep on getting tempory failureto resolve ftp.debian.org |
| 06:46.58 | nachos | ffs |
| 06:47.01 | bintut | dondelelcaro: ok.. thanks.. |
| 06:47.03 | rxkaffee | bintut, I believe there are a few other box breakoffs that are a 'lil more minimal... whitebox comes to mind I've only used fluxbox during the recent years though |
| 06:47.11 | dondelelcaro | nachos: your nameserver sucks... |
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| 06:47.41 | bintut | rxkaffee: yeah. i used fluxbox before but not openbox yet |
| 06:47.58 | liable | nachos: deep breaths and see if you can ping other sites or if its the debian server |
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| 06:48.15 | dondelelcaro | !nslookup ftp.debian.org |
| 06:48.32 | liable | nachos: if the debian one is the only one, then just use a different one |
| 06:48.43 | liable | nothing to hyperventilate over |
| 06:49.02 | rxkaffee | bintut, last time I uned openbox, I believe it had a few more fancy visual effects that flux, but flux had a few features(that were actually usefull), that open didn't |
| 06:49.25 | rxkaffee | bintut, but its been years, so don't quote me on it |
| 06:49.40 | bintut | rxkaffee: it's ok.. thanks.. :) |
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| 06:50.49 | streuner_ | Only real men use ion3, the same with dselect and stuff ;-) |
| 06:51.19 | VIm_Enforcer | streuner_, EVERYTHING is better than ratpoison |
| 06:51.31 | VIm_Enforcer | :X |
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| 06:51.40 | VIm_Enforcer | ratpoison is the biggest suck |
| 06:51.50 | VIm_Enforcer | it's sooo emacsish |
| 06:51.53 | streuner_ | life is hard enough, why would you things more complicated than they are? |
| 06:52.06 | VIm_Enforcer | look @ my nick |
| 06:52.16 | VIm_Enforcer | do i look like i'm using emacs or something? |
| 06:52.17 | rxkaffee | streuner_, dude, real men use dpkg |
| 06:52.30 | liable | *groan* |
| 06:52.42 | rxkaffee | and they don't groan either! |
| 06:52.54 | liable | heh |
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| 06:52.56 | lkthomas | hey all |
| 06:53.11 | lkthomas | I would like to know why apache2.conf is missing after apache2-common installed |
| 06:53.42 | liable | lkthomas: did you previously delete it? |
| 06:53.56 | lkthomas | liable: I did |
| 06:54.03 | lkthomas | anything wrong ? |
| 06:54.09 | liable | !tell lkthomas about confmiss |
| 06:54.45 | lkthomas | thanks |
| 06:55.38 | lkthomas | dpkg are actually too smart some time :) |
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| 06:56.08 | liable | it knows all :) |
| 06:57.44 | Jubei_ | dondelelcaro: backport of mysql5 ? where do I get that |
| 06:57.54 | liable | backports.org |
| 06:57.55 | Jubei_ | yesterday some guys here told me a website but I can't remember |
| 06:57.58 | Jubei_ | oh :) |
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| 07:00.38 | sjau | hiho anyone got a 1.6 hlds server installed? |
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| 07:02.04 | xjkx | how do we make mousepad of notebook work? |
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| 07:02.41 | beanz | Anyone know a command to interleave two files? i.e. line 1 from file A, line 1 from file B, line 2... etc |
| 07:03.02 | VIm_Enforcer | beanz, sed |
| 07:03.38 | zamaliphe | how can i add the index.php to apache indexsing ? |
| 07:03.41 | beanz | VIm_Enforcer: got a script? |
| 07:03.47 | stew | VIm_Enforcer: can sed read from 2 streams at once? |
| 07:03.59 | VIm_Enforcer | i think so |
| 07:04.00 | Jubei_ | zamaliphe: edit httpd.conf (if using apache 1.x) |
| 07:04.02 | VIm_Enforcer | with -e |
| 07:04.04 | VIm_Enforcer | and r |
| 07:04.47 | zamaliphe | Jubei_: what line and added what ? |
| 07:05.12 | liable | zamaliphe: there is a mountainload of apache docs out there |
| 07:05.25 | SerajewelKS | beanz: i'd use perl actually |
| 07:05.31 | liable | eeek |
| 07:05.36 | VIm_Enforcer | perl sux |
| 07:05.37 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 07:05.42 | VIm_Enforcer | j/k |
| 07:05.45 | VIm_Enforcer | or awk |
| 07:05.54 | VIm_Enforcer | but i'm sure you can do it with sed too |
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| 07:06.40 | beanz | SerajewelKS: but this seems something an existing tool could do. I thought "sort -m" would do it, but it doesn't. |
| 07:06.55 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiab |
| 07:07.00 | stew | VIm_Enforcer: doesn't r read entire files at a time, not single lines from a file? |
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| 07:07.16 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiab |
| 07:07.53 | Jubei_ | zamaliphe: find the part where u list the indexing files order look for "index.htm" in the file |
| 07:09.15 | SerajewelKS | beanz: something like this: perl -e 'my @fds; foreach (my $i in @ARGV) { my $fh; open($fh, "<", $_) or die $!; push(@fds, \$fh); } while (@fds) { for (my $i = 0; $i <= $#fds; $i) { my $line = <$fds[$i>; if (!defined($line)) { splice(@fds, $i, 1); } else { print $line; } }' |
| 07:09.26 | SerajewelKS | beanz: untested so have fun =) |
| 07:09.39 | liable | thats evil |
| 07:09.47 | SerajewelKS | indeed |
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| 07:10.09 | beanz | SerajewelKS: thanks. |
| 07:10.11 | SerajewelKS | err that $_ should be $i |
| 07:10.36 | nachos | hey, how can i make debian broadcast a DHCP request to get assigned a IP ? |
| 07:10.43 | rxkaffee | pump? |
| 07:10.49 | SerajewelKS | nachos: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 07:11.08 | rxkaffee | pump -i |
| 07:11.46 | liable | with a dhcp client |
| 07:12.05 | SerajewelKS | real men craft the packet themselves and use netcat |
| 07:12.16 | SerajewelKS | then set the address manually |
| 07:12.53 | liable | !penixsmite SerajewelKS |
| 07:13.01 | liable | meh |
| 07:13.05 | SerajewelKS | bwahahaha |
| 07:14.35 | liable | lol, check out listkeys penix.. he must have mad an impression on #debian :) |
| 07:14.39 | Jubei_ | guys what does the "dfsg" mean in "mysql-dfsg-5.0"? I found it in backports.org |
| 07:14.42 | liable | i was sure there was a smite |
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| 07:17.37 | liable | dfsg is normally debian free software guidlines, dunnop if thats what it stands for in the package |
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| 07:17.44 | stew | !penixcancer liable |
| 07:17.44 | dpkg | A tiny penix cell finds it's way into liable. Wigorously dividing the cell eats up liable and liable ends up being a large lump of penix tissue. |
| 07:17.59 | liable | eww |
| 07:18.30 | liable | just one retaliation.. |
| 07:18.36 | liable | !penixstrike stew |
| 07:18.37 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking stew to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 07:19.09 | stew | !annoy penix 2 |
| 07:19.09 | dpkg | ~annoy Penix |
| 07:19.10 | apt | ACTION dances around Penix, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy Penix to the maximum amount |
| 07:19.14 | stew | fancy |
| 07:19.38 | liable | heh, poor penix |
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| 07:25.01 | nachos | hey, what run-level boots xdm/gdm once all the system daemons have been loaded? |
| 07:25.15 | liable | 2 |
| 07:25.29 | liable | well, thats the default one anyways |
| 07:25.31 | nachos | ok, is that the _only_ run level loaded? |
| 07:25.54 | liable | rcS.d is run too |
| 07:26.39 | nachos | thanks |
| 07:27.21 | stew | nachos: 2,3,4, and 5 would all start xdm/gdm |
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| 07:27.48 | BartVB | Question; does anyone have suggestions for properly copying files from server A to server B while you know that server A corrupts data it reads from the disk once every x GB (where x is random)? Tools like scp assume that the hardware correctly reads/writes data :\ |
| 07:28.05 | black_13 | is it possible re-install a package or group of packages? |
| 07:28.31 | BartVB | black_13: apt-get --reinstall install ? |
| 07:28.34 | beardy | black_13: Of course. |
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| 07:29.05 | black_13 | i see i am having problems with x11 |
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| 07:29.21 | beardy | black_13: What problems? |
| 07:29.31 | rxkaffee | BartVB, write a script that breaks it down into small pieces and md5's them? |
| 07:29.34 | black_13 | i cant run x11 on a non root account |
| 07:29.42 | nachos | I'm having problems with apache, its eating 100% cpu and is not listening on any ports... |
| 07:29.43 | black_13 | i have screwed up something |
| 07:29.44 | liable | black_13: ddrescue? |
| 07:29.54 | black_13 | what is that? |
| 07:29.56 | liable | BartVB: ^^^ |
| 07:30.01 | liable | wrong nick |
| 07:30.17 | BartVB | rxkaffee: yeah, that's the only thing I could come up with :| I was hoping there was an easier way out |
| 07:30.17 | beardy | black_13: What have you done then? |
| 07:30.38 | black_13 | well if i knew :) |
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| 07:31.53 | rxkaffee | BartVB, you could probably have one of these fancy archiever programs(tar, etc) split it up and checksum it, and pipe it right into scp |
| 07:32.00 | beardy | BartVB: Are you sure it's random? |
| 07:33.13 | beardy | BartVB: Does it show like a read error, or is it only seen after you have copied everything? |
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| 07:34.19 | beardy | But what good would md5sum do? |
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| 07:34.50 | beardy | If he sums the files on the broken machine, the checksum is not correct. |
| 07:35.15 | abrocadabro | how do you change themes for xgl in debian? there is only cgwd-themes package to install, how can I actually use it? |
| 07:35.26 | beardy | BartVB: Use dd, grab what you can and backup in the future. |
| 07:36.12 | BartVB | beardy: not 100% sure. I ran md5sum on all files 77 times, there is one very large file in the set 98GB), there are 68 different md5 sums of this file |
| 07:36.51 | BartVB | the disks are fine and dandy |
| 07:36.53 | BartVB | no problem with them |
| 07:37.13 | BartVB | my guess is that it's a problem between the sata controller and the linux kernel |
| 07:37.26 | BartVB | mainboard manufacturer wasn't very helpful |
| 07:37.37 | BartVB | "Hello, please refer to our supported OS list. There have been many failures during validation on some OS. One of the failing OS was Debian." |
| 07:37.45 | BartVB | blah |
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| 07:38.23 | BartVB | IMO there is not really a difference between redhat/suse and any other distro when it comes to reading from the disk with a kernel that you compiled yourself |
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| 07:39.39 | liable | of course not, but those two are commercial business, thus they get (more) support from vendors |
| 07:40.14 | BartVB | any recommendations for a brand of server mainboards? :) |
| 07:40.23 | BartVB | I think I'm in the market for some new ones... |
| 07:40.50 | liable | i dont think theres a good hcl list yet |
| 07:40.53 | liable | !hcl |
| 07:40.53 | dpkg | hmm... hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 07:41.29 | BartVB | yeah, but that's just compatibility, not reliability and support |
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| 07:42.20 | liable | hah, who *really* supports linux? |
| 07:42.53 | liable | stew: you make mobos? |
| 07:43.11 | stew | nope |
| 07:43.11 | liable | i'll but one |
| 07:43.16 | liable | buy.. |
| 07:43.23 | stew | yeah? i could make one |
| 07:43.44 | liable | no crazy glue allowed! |
| 07:43.47 | liable | :) |
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| 07:43.55 | stew | duct tape? |
| 07:44.12 | liable | hrm, 100mileanhour maybe, not duct |
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| 07:47.50 | xjkx | is it hard to make a livecd with all the softwares i like, removing the ones i dont like? :s without having to read much... |
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| 07:49.23 | lunitik | xjkx: look for Elive's site... they use a project that tries to make that easy... I forget its name though... |
| 07:49.51 | xjkx | ok thanks lunitik |
| 07:51.12 | craigevil | you also might want to check out #debian-live |
| 07:51.35 | craigevil | xjkx: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 07:51.37 | black_13 | wierd: man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied |
| 07:51.46 | xjkx | craigevil, i'd probably like more my own =p lunitik seems its a linux distribution =o |
| 07:52.45 | lunitik | xjkx: I said what elive uses... not elive itself :/ |
| 07:53.24 | liable | black_13: whats your perms on /tmp? |
| 07:53.29 | xjkx | mm found its website only |
| 07:53.30 | xjkx | :p |
| 07:53.58 | liable | black_13: whats the state of that partition too, werent you the one with booting problems? |
| 07:54.17 | lunitik | http://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Home |
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| 07:55.12 | craigevil | xjkx: debian-live has a howto on its wiki |
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| 07:55.28 | craigevil | xjkx: http://live.debian.net/wiki/ISO_Howto |
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| 07:56.07 | black_13 | i am the one |
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| 07:57.00 | liable | black_13: put 'cat /proc mounts' on a pastebot |
| 07:57.01 | xjkx | thanks |
| 07:57.12 | liable | black_13: put 'cat /proc/mounts' on a pastebot |
| 07:57.39 | black_13 | its on another machine though |
| 07:57.54 | black_13 | i had to get some things done so i just put togher anther machine |
| 07:58.05 | liable | ssh into it |
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| 07:58.49 | black_13 | sadly i suck |
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| 07:59.04 | gebruiker | who can help me setup my wifi? |
| 07:59.09 | black_13 | i need to setup a decent network here |
| 07:59.15 | liable | although if /tmp is ro, ssh might fail i guess |
| 07:59.33 | liable | !tell gebruiker about ask |
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| 08:00.31 | codemarauder | A file from an installed package got deleted. Can I use dpkg / apt-get to install the missing files for a particular package? |
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| 08:00.49 | liable | !tell codemarauder about confmiss |
| 08:00.56 | niles | hi |
| 08:00.59 | niles | how can i extract a rar file ? |
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| 08:01.05 | xjkx | whats 'cdebootstrap backport' it doesnt say there, just mention |
| 08:01.15 | wols_ | niles: unrar from non-free |
| 08:01.19 | liable | niles: with unrar or unrar-nonfree |
| 08:02.05 | codemarauder | liable: It was not a config file. It was an html file. Also, will it keep my customisations and configuration changes? |
| 08:02.11 | niles | thanx fellaz |
| 08:02.32 | scel | liable: unrar-free ;) |
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| 08:02.53 | liable | codemarauder: er, no, if it was a web page of yours it gone |
| 08:03.05 | liable | scel: oh, i am confused easily :) |
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| 08:03.59 | black_13 | how good is shorewall |
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| 08:04.13 | liable | i like it, some dont |
| 08:04.51 | black_13 | there is lickly a file in /etc to set it up ? |
| 08:05.19 | liable | yeah, read the docs at there web site, there pretty good |
| 08:05.29 | dondelelcaro | http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060423-9999-1n23bigboom.html if anyone cares... ;-) |
| 08:05.29 | liable | s/there/their/ |
| 08:05.50 | dondelelcaro | ECHAN... |
| 08:05.57 | xjkx | craigevil> installed and ran command, but you sure its possible to add softwares there?llike if i want to add softwares i done myself?or is it only for softwares that are in apt-get?its crazy, if they want me to give arguments like -add kde gnome Xorg...;o -reading man page- |
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| 08:06.29 | craigevil | xjkx: ive never done it that way |
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| 08:12.31 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:12.31 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 08:19.27 | jetscreamer | MY GOD THIS CHANNEL IS FRICKIN DEAD |
| 08:19.56 | SlayerXP | oh no it isn't |
| 08:19.57 | Charminthemoose | is it usually at this time? |
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| 08:20.16 | liable | jetscreamer: shouldny you still be in bed? |
| 08:20.19 | jetscreamer | didn't used to be this dead though |
| 08:20.22 | black_13 | ok firestarter seems to work ... seems |
| 08:20.24 | rohan | i want to do internet connectiong sharing by setting up a proxy server on one my debian boxes. which is the best proxy server ? |
| 08:20.26 | nevyn | jetscreamer: it's just resting |
| 08:20.31 | jetscreamer | yeah but i fell asleep about 7pm |
| 08:22.00 | Charminthemoose | I will not by this record player,it is scratched |
| 08:22.18 | liable | too much beer? or nana nap that went too long? |
| 08:23.24 | jetscreamer | just tired |
| 08:23.49 | jetscreamer | why nana nap |
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| 08:24.14 | jetscreamer | the kids call their grandma nana... why would you say nana :) |
| 08:24.19 | liable | erm, nanna, that make more sense? |
| 08:24.31 | jetscreamer | no :) |
| 08:24.32 | liable | ya, thats what i meant :) |
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| 08:24.54 | liable | you know, grammas have little afternoon naps... |
| 08:24.59 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 08:25.38 | jetscreamer | i dunno why but i think grandpa's for naps |
| 08:26.30 | liable | hrm, actually, its mostly older guys i know that do it too, but i still call it a nana nap. must have picked up the phrase somewhere |
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| 08:27.49 | jetscreamer | i knew a guy once, he would always take a nap at a certain time.. like 2pm. he wasn't old either... |
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| 08:28.05 | abchirk | !ops Samantha[copier] |
| 08:28.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abchirk complains about: Samantha[copier] |
| 08:28.17 | abchirk | same guy as yesterday :( |
| 08:28.20 | liable | again with that smantha bot |
| 08:28.21 | mentor | gah |
| 08:28.22 | mentor | again |
| 08:28.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 08:28.33 | jetscreamer | i wonder why the bot doesn't get me |
| 08:28.49 | abchirk | hm mabye he only wrotes to a-l or else |
| 08:28.49 | liable | it knows your married? |
| 08:28.59 | abchirk | hehe |
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| 08:32.01 | black_13 | anyone home |
| 08:32.48 | amphi | black_13: good way to silence the channel ;) |
| 08:32.51 | liable | what an odd question seeing as you have been here a while |
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| 08:33.07 | black_13 | heh |
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| 08:33.26 | black_13 | sorry i wanted see if the firewall had killed off xchat traffic |
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| 08:34.40 | liable | cold baked beans for me tonight |
| 08:35.22 | black_13 | sounds like a c/w song |
| 08:35.34 | RichiH | 10:29:30 -!- mode/#debian [+b Samantha[copier]!*@*] by mentor |
| 08:35.37 | RichiH | mentor: good :) |
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| 08:36.00 | mentor | :) |
| 08:36.02 | ma3x | why I get these errors when I try to mount my external usb hard drive: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning |
| 08:36.02 | ma3x | usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 |
| 08:36.02 | ma3x | usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 08:36.06 | black_13 | liable biscuits and gravy |
| 08:36.15 | ma3x | I get them like 20 times, and then I can mount the hard drive |
| 08:36.25 | ma3x | I've checked it with fsck -f and it's all fine |
| 08:36.33 | ma3x | are the drivers in debian buggy? |
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| 08:37.52 | liable | black_13: no pots to cook gravy |
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| 08:38.22 | black_13 | real gravy is in frying |
| 08:38.25 | black_13 | pan |
| 08:38.29 | liable | true |
| 08:38.48 | liable | no pots to make a roast, to make gravy :P |
| 08:38.58 | black_13 | bacon |
| 08:39.02 | jetscreamer | google finds your error popular ma3x |
| 08:39.11 | black_13 | the best and the worst kind of gravy |
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| 08:39.28 | black_13 | taste the best and the worst on you body |
| 08:39.37 | black_13 | tasty but lethal |
| 08:41.25 | jetscreamer | looks like it 'could' be udev |
| 08:41.35 | black_13 | when i try to use source navigator i have problems creating a file in /tmp |
| 08:41.58 | black_13 | its got to be a permissions problem |
| 08:42.07 | liable | black_13: you didnt answer my previous questions... what the perms and partition state |
| 08:42.25 | black_13 | on another box |
| 08:42.55 | black_13 | i dont yet have all the computers networked together |
| 08:43.04 | liable | have you been untaring files in /tmp? |
| 08:43.17 | black_13 | yeah |
| 08:43.22 | liable | thats why |
| 08:43.28 | black_13 | what the i foul up? |
| 08:43.33 | liable | fix your /tmp perms |
| 08:44.14 | liable | black_13: if you are gonna untar stuff in /tmp, make a dir in there and do it in that |
| 08:44.36 | black_13 | hum no in the case i havent untared anything |
| 08:44.40 | black_13 | sorry its late |
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| 08:46.05 | black_13 | brb |
| 08:47.55 | ma3x | jetscreamer: what about the solution |
| 08:48.00 | Charminthemoose | how can i set up apache to only allow access up to a certain directory?as in /home/me/archive and i only want visitors to be able to surf up to /home/me/archive and not get into /home/me? |
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| 08:48.22 | jetscreamer | ma3x: no idea, i don't have a usb drive :/ |
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| 08:49.41 | ma3x | well if I had the solution from google, I wouldn't be asking her |
| 08:49.54 | liable | Charminthemoose: httaccess i guess, there lots of apache docs out there for that stuff |
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| 08:51.29 | amphi | Charminthemoose: that's how it works; the directory is usually ~/public_html but you can make it what you like AFAIK |
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| 08:51.54 | binary_dreamer | hi. could someone tell me how i could upgrade the kde to the latest? i am using stable |
| 08:52.38 | jetscreamer | that would probably be the latest, that is in stable |
| 08:52.57 | jetscreamer | they have backports of stuff though |
| 08:53.09 | jetscreamer | /msg dpkg backports |
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| 08:53.49 | binary_dreamer | jetscreamer, let me rephrase. i need kde >3.4. could u tell me a repository to upgrade to? |
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| 08:55.41 | jetscreamer | i 'think' it's 3.5 in sid |
| 08:55.44 | black_13 | ok |
| 08:55.47 | jetscreamer | but do you really want sid? |
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| 08:56.20 | black_13 | the problems with writing to /tmp are preventing me from being able to start x11 |
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| 08:57.40 | jetscreamer | chown/chmod it? |
| 08:58.12 | jetscreamer | mine seems to be 777 |
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| 08:58.19 | stew | jetscreamer: 1777 not 777 |
| 08:58.29 | black_13 | jetscreamer were you speaking to moi? |
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| 08:58.52 | jetscreamer | typing |
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| 09:00.20 | black_13 | diazepam NICE NAME |
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| 09:00.57 | liable | ]Gnea[: hasnt the beta been in exp for a month or two? |
| 09:00.58 | diazepam | lol thanks black |
| 09:01.02 | ufk | what's the etch branch ? |
| 09:01.10 | ]Gnea[ | liable: yeah but it's not the final 2.0 |
| 09:01.13 | black_13 | you know thats bigger question about lots fo things when is xorg going to show up |
| 09:01.17 | ]Gnea[ | !etch |
| 09:01.18 | dpkg | somebody said etch was the codename for Debian 4.0, the release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/. Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 09:01.23 | jetscreamer | it's called etch |
| 09:01.30 | ]Gnea[ | black_13: it already did, where've you been? |
| 09:01.52 | black_13 | yeah in backports |
| 09:01.57 | jetscreamer | on sarge |
| 09:02.01 | ]Gnea[ | oh |
| 09:02.03 | ]Gnea[ | heh, sarge |
| 09:02.16 | black_13 | youre pulling my zuchinni |
| 09:02.23 | ]Gnea[ | no, i'm eating my cookie |
| 09:02.32 | black_13 | where is xorg? |
| 09:02.40 | ]Gnea[ | pardon? |
| 09:02.40 | liable | in etch |
| 09:02.51 | black_13 | but isnt etch "unstable" |
| 09:02.53 | stew | black_13: xorg is available in etch and in backports.org |
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| 09:02.57 | jetscreamer | no |
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| 09:03.00 | jetscreamer | sid is |
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| 09:03.06 | stew | black_13: etch is testing. xorg is also available in unstable |
| 09:03.23 | black_13 | of debian? |
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| 09:03.35 | black_13 | i suck |
| 09:03.42 | jetscreamer | i do too |
| 09:03.50 | ]Gnea[ | no need to point out the obvious |
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| 09:04.05 | jetscreamer | yes there is because it's not obvious to me |
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| 09:04.13 | ]Gnea[ | heh |
| 09:04.20 | jetscreamer | i keep thinking how godlike i am and need to remind myself how much i suck |
| 09:04.33 | black_13 | heh |
| 09:04.41 | ]Gnea[ | being human has its drawbacks |
| 09:05.14 | tralala | it's still better than being a bot, right dpkg? |
| 09:05.20 | black_13 | ok there is a testing then unstable ok |
| 09:05.36 | stew | ok |
| 09:05.43 | black_13 | heh |
| 09:05.52 | jetscreamer | kay-oh |
| 09:06.13 | jetscreamer | (jamaican accent) |
| 09:06.15 | tralala | black_13, why don't you check out debian.org? You'll be surprised how much *good* *stuff* you'll find there. |
| 09:07.14 | black_13 | why do that when i can enjoy the pleasent conversation yourself? |
| 09:07.37 | ]Gnea[ | because then you won't have to smoke crack |
| 09:07.42 | tralala | black_13, are you trying to confuse me? |
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| 09:08.24 | black_13 | sorry its 3 am i hit confused a couple of hours ago |
| 09:08.34 | possie | xinetd fails to startup a application for me, anyone know a to tell xinetd to be as verbose as possible? |
| 09:08.36 | ]Gnea[ | tralala: it's okay, he's from colorado, they have less air there |
| 09:08.55 | liable | and more crack |
| 09:08.56 | jetscreamer | eww home of the coors |
| 09:08.58 | ]Gnea[ | yup |
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| 09:09.16 | jetscreamer | that's what it is, too much coors |
| 09:09.20 | tralala | ]Gnea[, oh I see now! |
| 09:09.23 | black_13 | i have relative in colorado ...lots of republicans |
| 09:09.29 | black_13 | ick |
| 09:09.56 | ]Gnea[ | i'll take an ice cold pabst, please |
| 09:10.09 | tralala | oh yah, I haven't heard latey of american politics and I'm really interested |
| 09:10.53 | ]Gnea[ | tralala: not much to it... they signed a bill to build a wall that a flood of mexicans will just knock over anyway |
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| 09:11.25 | liable | then they will torture them |
| 09:11.25 | black_13 | no just make them cook and cliean |
| 09:11.35 | black_13 | and die in the desert |
| 09:11.41 | ]Gnea[ | lol |
| 09:12.05 | black_13 | americans are two faced (i am one) we want cheap food but dont like mexicans |
| 09:12.24 | ]Gnea[ | black_13: not all americans are like that |
| 09:12.25 | jetscreamer | i like mexicans |
| 09:12.35 | ]Gnea[ | so do i... well, i like some mexicans |
| 09:12.38 | black_13 | enough of them sadly |
| 09:12.42 | liable | tasty! |
| 09:12.42 | jetscreamer | what i don't like is american politics |
| 09:13.11 | jetscreamer | i do have to wonder if it would be more or less fucked up under gore though |
| 09:13.17 | ]Gnea[ | black_13: that's okay, the ice age will take care of them.. heh heh heh... |
| 09:13.18 | jetscreamer | probably |
| 09:13.31 | ]Gnea[ | ok |
| 09:13.38 | black_13 | its funny i dont like bush but in one case i agreed with him ... he didnt jump up and down when he signed the bill |
| 09:13.39 | liable | doesnt matter the country pollies are fucked everywhere |
| 09:13.42 | ]Gnea[ | take this to #politics or let's change the subject. |
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| 09:14.36 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 09:14.37 | dpkg | < dodoherty> nanok, it's cheap and it's 19 inches you're probably right. |
| 09:14.39 | ]Gnea[ | sooooooo, how bout them firefox 2.0 .debs? :) |
| 09:14.44 | black_13 | and do you really thing the wall will stop the the flow? it will just make it harder but it wont stop |
| 09:14.54 | ]Gnea[ | black_13: ENOUGH. |
| 09:15.05 | black_13 | sorry i steep off |
| 09:15.24 | ]Gnea[ | :) |
| 09:15.57 | liable | heh |
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| 09:20.04 | liable | ]Gnea[: see, now we watch joins and parts :P |
| 09:20.23 | outlaw84 | does anyone off you know when firefox 2 i comming to debian? |
| 09:21.04 | Ronin | outlaw84: its not |
| 09:21.22 | liable | eh? |
| 09:21.31 | outlaw84 | it comming under another name name... I know that |
| 09:21.52 | Ronin | iceweasel i believe, not sure exactly when the change over happens |
| 09:21.54 | jetscreamer | mozilla is your god |
| 09:21.54 | tralala | outlaw84, /msg dpkg sih |
| 09:22.00 | outlaw84 | but what is that new name? Thunderbird got renamed to icedove :) |
| 09:22.03 | Ronin | beer is my god jetscreamer |
| 09:22.19 | Ronin | my wife is if she's looking over my shoulder mind you |
| 09:22.54 | jetscreamer | my wife does that |
| 09:23.16 | outlaw84 | iceweasel? hahah thoses names :) |
| 09:24.03 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: we already have it, actually. |
| 09:24.26 | dondelelcaro | !+info firefox experimental |
| 09:24.28 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 09:24.30 | dpkg | firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.99+2.0b2+dfsg-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 8692 kB, Installed size: 26264 kB |
| 09:25.02 | outlaw84 | I downloaded the binarys from mozilla.com just now and test it... it came with a gay ass windows xp theme but besides that it was quite nice |
| 09:25.03 | Jubei_ | guys i have a sarge on an i386, which of these backports should I get for my box? can somebody have alook at http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ and tell me, i just need a standard mysql5+ server and client |
| 09:25.04 | Ronin | 1.99+2, oh just call it 2 :) |
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| 09:25.31 | dondelelcaro | Ronin: we don't, because 2.0 needs to superceed it |
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| 09:26.07 | dondelelcaro | Jubei_: that's what it is. just add a line for backports.org, and isntall the appropriate server and client packages. |
| 09:26.10 | ]Gnea[ | oh yeah, i forgot about iceweasel |
| 09:26.19 | outlaw84 | superceed?? what does that mean? |
| 09:26.27 | rxkaffee | get bigger than |
| 09:26.28 | Jubei_ | dondelelcaro: u mean in my sources.list ? |
| 09:26.44 | tralala | Ronin, I'd call that 3.99 |
| 09:26.44 | dondelelcaro | Jubei_: yes. |
| 09:26.44 | Ronin | heh |
| 09:26.57 | dondelelcaro | !+dict supersede |
| 09:26.59 | dpkg | Dictionary 'supersede' (2 of 5): 3. To make void, inefficacious, or useless, by superior power, or by coming in the place of; to set aside; to render unnecessary; to suspend; to stay. ;; Nothing is supposed that can supersede the known laws of natural motion. --Bentley.. |
| 09:28.08 | liable | how about, the next version? |
| 09:28.25 | Jubei_ | dondelelcaro: what type though? stable/update |
| 09:28.50 | Jubei_ | dondelelcaro: i can't say that i know my way around sources.list well |
| 09:28.53 | dondelelcaro | Jubei_: it'shttp://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 09:28.57 | dondelelcaro | s/it's// |
| 09:28.59 | Jubei_ | thanks! |
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| 09:32.59 | utrrrongeeb | Does anyone know about issues with Sony digital cameras? |
| 09:33.14 | blondie | !anyone |
| 09:33.14 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 09:33.51 | tralala | yep, they are manifactured by a bitchy companyt |
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| 09:36.26 | dondelelcaro | utrrrongeeb: the ones that I've seen behave just like normal usb mass storage devices. |
| 09:36.29 | utrrrongeeb | Sorry, I was trying to mount some Sony digital cameras last night. One caused some IO errors, and the other froze it. After rebooting, fdisk -l would freeze for about a minute until I saw a message saying something along the lines of 'USB device 9 reset'. |
| 09:37.01 | dondelelcaro | utrrrongeeb: if that's happening, it probably means something is wrong with the camera, or it's interacting badly with the kernel... |
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| 09:37.28 | jetscreamer | is that like blondie the chick band or blondie as in clint eastwood |
| 09:37.40 | blondie | no |
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| 09:39.51 | utrrrongeeb | dondelelcaro: It may be worth noting that I'm using a recompiled kernel. The first camera was on internal read-only memory. |
| 09:40.39 | dondelelcaro | utrrrongeeb: the internal memory on those things is write too; but I don't believe they work well without a card. |
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| 09:47.17 | utrrrongeeb | dondelelcaro: No, this one's internel memory can only be written to by the camera. To the computer, it's read-only. The point, though, is that they don't work. (at least they didn't yesterday.) |
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| 09:49.08 | possie | anyone using debmirror? when i run my debmirror update i'm getting a 404 on the file ncompress_4.2.4.orig.tar.gz i've tried different mirrors, but all get a 404, anyone have this problem as wel? |
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| 09:52.31 | diazepam | guys is there a command that removes a single user from a group? |
| 09:52.57 | tralala | deluser? |
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| 09:53.33 | diazepam | tralala - nope |
| 09:53.56 | tralala | yep |
| 09:54.27 | diazepam | you say yes, i say no, i say hi, you say low low low |
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| 09:54.58 | blondie | diazepam: gpasswd |
| 09:55.01 | wols_ | diazepam: ever read the manpage? |
| 09:55.05 | jetscreamer | oh no! |
| 09:55.09 | blondie | gpasswd -d user group |
| 09:55.24 | tralala | wols_, are you kidding?! |
| 09:55.55 | wols_ | tralala: damn addicts. they can't do anything except ask here |
| 09:56.26 | tralala | hehe :) |
| 09:56.41 | diazepam | sorry i asked the question because i am sitting the LPI 101 exam and the text book I have by orielly says "Unfortunately no command removes a userfrom a specified group. The easiest way to remove a member fro a group is by editiing the /etc/group file" |
| 09:57.14 | wols_ | so mybe that book is rubbish? |
| 09:57.20 | diazepam | yeah i think so |
| 09:57.22 | wols_ | or old? or both? |
| 09:57.28 | tralala | !fix oreilly |
| 09:57.30 | diazepam | i was a little shocked to hear that was the case |
| 09:58.05 | liable | well, does every other linux have that option from deluser? |
| 09:58.36 | diazepam | yeah just found it under debian deluser --group <groupname> |
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| 09:59.15 | tralala | aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!111 |
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| 09:59.46 | unlink | having trouble compiling ipw3945 against linux-2.6.19-rc3 |
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| 10:05.32 | Chandan | hi |
| 10:05.42 | Chandan | how to create overrides file |
| 10:06.08 | tralala | what is overrides file? |
| 10:06.41 | Chandan | tralala, A file which contains the info of Package that has to be put into the specified release of the distro |
| 10:06.43 | liable | !overrides |
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| 10:06.58 | liable | hrm theres a man page iirc |
| 10:07.14 | Chandan | liable, ya .. |
| 10:07.20 | liable | or is it divert i must be thinking of |
| 10:07.29 | onurx | is debian-desktop project, the choice-tasksel- "desktop" while installation ? |
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| 10:07.44 | tralala | isn't it what apt_preferences is doing? |
| 10:07.56 | liable | onurx: desktop in tasksel will give you gnome and kde |
| 10:08.19 | Chandan | tralala, I am not sure ... |
| 10:08.19 | scx | do anyone here knows where the hell I find the source code of whiptail 0.52 ? |
| 10:08.35 | Chandan | tralala, I have the pool directory with packages of different versions |
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| 10:09.02 | tralala | Chandan, well, check it out - man apt_preferences |
| 10:09.27 | scx | I need to recompile it but where the hell is it? |
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| 10:09.40 | tralala | !pinning |
| 10:09.40 | dpkg | [apt-pinning] read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning |
| 10:09.41 | Chandan | tralala, just like overrides-sarge-main ,overrides-etch-main files |
| 10:10.48 | tralala | Chandan, I'm afraid I have no idea what these are. |
| 10:11.28 | Chandan | tralala, apt-_preferences for installing packages of different versions .. |
| 10:11.53 | Chandan | tralala, I want How do I create packages file for sarge ,etch and sid from the packages under pool |
| 10:12.05 | Chandan | tralala, for this I hope overrides are used |
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| 10:12.47 | cydork | Chandan: packages as in packages.gz? |
| 10:12.48 | tralala | oh... |
| 10:13.01 | RobHu | Is there a way to use sed to alter a file? Rather than just piping the alterations to stdout? |
| 10:13.02 | Chandan | cydork, ya |
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| 10:13.11 | Krikey | when you connect to a server through ssh on the console, can one send a file from the local machine to the server showing on the console? |
| 10:13.17 | cydork | Chandan: man dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 10:13.57 | Chandan | cyberkni, I got How to create packages file without overrides but with overrides I want |
| 10:14.14 | Chandan | cydork, I got How to create packages file without overrides but with overrides I want |
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| 10:14.41 | Chandan | cydork, for example ..If we take debian mirror pool folder ..If contains packages for all sarge etch and sid |
| 10:15.17 | Chandan | cydork, but Packages.gz file are different for all three sarge etch and sid with respective version of pacakges taken from the same pool |
| 10:15.25 | Chandan | cydork, I want to know How to do this |
| 10:15.42 | liable | Krikey: not through your ordinary ssh connection. use scp or rsync |
| 10:16.03 | tralala | I think the information of which version belongs to which branch is only found in packages.gz |
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| 10:16.36 | pumpkin0 | Krikey: copying files over ssh ? use sshfs. |
| 10:16.37 | liable | isnt there a seperate packes file for each release? |
| 10:16.56 | liable | +ag |
| 10:16.59 | RobHu | Is it possible to do what I want? Or do I need to use a temporary file |
| 10:17.20 | tralala | i.e. the package itself doesn't say I belong to etch" so you can't create different packages.gz out of a bunch of .deb s |
| 10:17.41 | Chandan | tralala, Then How is in Debian mirror .. |
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| 10:18.29 | Chandan | tralala, Different version of packages are available in pool .. respective versions are in packages.gz file of respective releases |
| 10:18.35 | cydork | Chandan: yes they will be different .. |
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| 10:19.00 | Chandan | cydork, Let me give an example .. |
| 10:19.19 | Chandan | cydork, I have gnome 2.8 gnome2.14 and gnome2.16 in my pool |
| 10:19.33 | Chandan | cydork, I want to create packages.gz for sarge etch and sid |
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| 10:20.02 | tralala | Chandan, yes, but I don't think these packages.gz are generated based only on the .debs. There has to be another file saying $version->$branch ofr somethinjg |
| 10:20.07 | Chandan | cydork, If I use dpkg-scanpackages pool /dev/null > packages , this will take the hihger version and will create the pacakges.gz file |
| 10:20.54 | Chandan | cydork, Then it will be for sid not for sarge and etch ..How do I create for sarge and etch |
| 10:20.55 | Fox | create different directorys and move your packages to those directorys |
| 10:21.09 | Fox | directories ? |
| 10:21.35 | cydork | Chandan: the problem with same package is that. you can specify a different override file for each of them i guess. |
| 10:21.45 | Chandan | Fox, with different pool for srage etch and sid , it will work ..But in Debian mirro it is merged into singel directory , right ..I want the similar way |
| 10:22.11 | Chandan | cydork, but in override file where do I specify the version |
| 10:22.27 | Chandan | cydork, It takes only package priority and section |
| 10:23.19 | Chandan | tralala, Ya I too guess the same .. Which may be that file which says version->bracnch |
| 10:23.22 | Chandan | tralala, Ya I too guess the same .. Which may be that file which says version->branch |
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| 10:24.49 | tralala | Chandan, it's more compicated that this - you have different versions with different dependencies. Debian has a whole infrastructure behind that takes are of dependencies (any may other things I'm sure) which generates the packages.gz. I don't believe you can easily duplicated that work. |
| 10:25.08 | cydork | Chandan: i really dont think you can keep same packages with different versions in the packages.gz |
| 10:25.08 | DaveyB | dHow do i enter a directory in the terminal if it has a name like World of Warcraft as cd World of Warcraft doesn't work. Due to the spaces. |
| 10:25.25 | tralala | (add Cs and Ns where missing) |
| 10:26.07 | tralala | cydork, he wants different versions to go to different packages.gz |
| 10:26.10 | DaveyB | thanks |
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| 10:26.50 | tralala | DaveyB, "Name with spaces" |
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| 10:27.10 | cydork | Chandan: oh then you have to use different directories for sure.. |
| 10:27.48 | liable | DaveyB: tab completion is also your friend :) |
| 10:27.48 | Chandan | cydork, oh..ok..but how in debian that is done .. different versions of Packages are availabe under same pool .. right |
| 10:27.53 | Charminthemoose | how do i set up a static ip on debian? |
| 10:28.07 | Phated | man interfaces. |
| 10:28.13 | tralala | Chandan, man interfaces |
| 10:28.14 | pumpkin0 | Charminthemoose: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:28.23 | liable | interface! |
| 10:28.23 | yunhual | hi, i have installed a base debian, but there is no X system, how can i get x11 from internet |
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| 10:28.25 | yunhual | apt-get install what ??? |
| 10:28.34 | tralala | I lose but I blame it on the lag |
| 10:28.36 | SlayerXP | phated! |
| 10:28.39 | DaveyB | ahh ok tralala and liable thankyou |
| 10:28.42 | cydork | Chandan: nope check it again .. |
| 10:28.53 | Phated | SlayerXP: Hello. |
| 10:28.58 | cydork | yunhual: use tasksel .. |
| 10:28.59 | yunhual | hi, i have installed a base debian, but there is no X system, how can i get x11 from internet |
| 10:29.00 | SlayerXP | phated: did you miss me? |
| 10:29.00 | Chandan | cydork, ok |
| 10:29.01 | yunhual | apt-get install what ??? |
| 10:29.03 | jetscreamer | yunhual: apt-get install xorg if etch, x-window-system if sarge |
| 10:29.09 | Phated | SlayerXP: Of course I did *huggle* |
| 10:29.19 | SlayerXP | jolly good |
| 10:29.34 | jetscreamer | yunhual: add a wm also... maybe gnome-core or something |
| 10:29.44 | Feax | !info firefox |
| 10:29.47 | jetscreamer | icewm, xfce |
| 10:29.49 | dpkg | firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2 (sid), Packaged size: 7799 kB, Installed size: 23716 kB |
| 10:29.51 | Fox | Chandan: put you sarge packages in their directorys, generate Packages.gz, remove the packages, put the etch packages in their directories, generate etc... |
| 10:30.01 | yunhual | couldn't find package xorg |
| 10:30.10 | jetscreamer | then you're on sarge |
| 10:30.21 | liable | yunhual: x-window-system-core then |
| 10:30.42 | jetscreamer | add icewm or xfce4 or something |
| 10:30.48 | Feax | how can I install firefox 2.0 with debian ? |
| 10:30.49 | jetscreamer | gnome, kde :o |
| 10:31.09 | yunhual | thank you |
| 10:31.12 | jetscreamer | we will allow you to compile it feax |
| 10:31.23 | jetscreamer | if you're lucky |
| 10:31.29 | yunhual | it is downing |
| 10:31.38 | Fox | and if you give jetscreamer a lot of money |
| 10:31.50 | tralala | Feax, it's a two step process - a) you wait 'til it gets in; b) you use apt-get install |
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| 10:32.10 | Feax | jetscreamer: after download the .tar.gz and extract I just do ./firefox ? |
| 10:32.31 | yunhual | it is very slowly, |
| 10:32.33 | jetscreamer | if it's an installer |
| 10:32.40 | julioh | ji |
| 10:32.43 | julioh | hia |
| 10:32.44 | jetscreamer | sounds like source to me |
| 10:32.50 | Feax | tralala: I just need to wait him to be in apt-get install ? |
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| 10:32.51 | julioh | firefox rulez |
| 10:33.11 | tralala | Feax, is this too much to ask? |
| 10:33.12 | liable | lolz |
| 10:33.24 | julioh | xD |
| 10:33.38 | Feax | tralala: no |
| 10:33.43 | cydork | Chandan: wait check http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/indices/ |
| 10:34.22 | jetscreamer | http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US |
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| 10:34.32 | Feax | what is the command for have more info on a package ? |
| 10:34.42 | jetscreamer | http://www.mozilla.com/ |
| 10:35.15 | tralala | Feax, good, so have a little patience and everything will get sourted out |
| 10:35.24 | Chandan | cydork, I was the override file ..But there is no version specified in that |
| 10:35.25 | Feax | oki tralala |
| 10:35.26 | Fox | Feax: apt-cache show <package> |
| 10:35.30 | Feax | thanks Fox |
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| 10:37.40 | khaleel5000 | hi everyone |
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| 10:38.15 | Chandan | cydork, How to create taht override file |
| 10:38.17 | khaleel5000 | whast the latest BLEEDING edgre version of DEBIAN ? ......... i am a newbie and I cant find information about it on the web at debinan |
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| 10:38.40 | Ronin | khaleel5000: well if your new at linux why on earth do you want bleeding edge? its'called experimental btw |
| 10:38.59 | pumpkin0 | khaleel5000: "experimental". any you will not like it. |
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| 10:39.28 | khaleel5000 | Ronin :- ok long story short ....... i am not newbie first used linux 4 years ago , been using it on and off . now a 100 % linux convert |
| 10:39.30 | cydork | Chandan: check http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto#setting-up |
| 10:39.33 | Anarka | because it's so bleeding edge it probably won't work ? :P |
| 10:39.47 | Ronin | so then why they hell say your a newbie? nice way to start |
| 10:39.49 | khaleel5000 | and we will bleed to death :D |
| 10:40.01 | khaleel5000 | coz i used RPM based distros |
| 10:40.05 | tralala | khaleel5000, you still don't want bleeding edge |
| 10:40.27 | khaleel5000 | ok can i get a version of debian that has XGL in it |
| 10:40.40 | liable | no |
| 10:40.48 | khaleel5000 | besides my linux-learnig is very much hindered by me using a slow modem and people around me dont use linux , just iwndows |
| 10:40.52 | khaleel5000 | i am from pakistan |
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| 10:41.11 | gonzo-nb | hello |
| 10:41.17 | Fox | aren't you going to be burned if you use free software ? :) |
| 10:41.19 | liable | khaleel5000: using sid is painfull if you are dial up due to the constant updates |
| 10:41.19 | Anarka | khaleel5000 slow modem ? how slow ? how wiull you get the cds ? |
| 10:41.42 | khaleel5000 | so I now just came to know about a company that will donwnloaad and send me linux at avery cheap raate |
| 10:41.50 | khaleel5000 | send me on cds or dvds |
| 10:42.04 | gonzo-nb | I need some help on installing the module-assistant |
| 10:42.11 | Anarka | khaleel5000 what connection do you have ? |
| 10:42.20 | scx | khaleel5000: I can send you copies of mine at a very high rate |
| 10:42.24 | tralala | gonzo-nb, /msg dpkg m-a |
| 10:42.27 | khaleel5000 | dialup , around 1.5~ mb per hour |
| 10:42.35 | cydork | khaleel5000: dont go for sid, it's always updated .. go for etch at the max. |
| 10:42.38 | khaleel5000 | hmm rfrom where |
| 10:42.47 | Anarka | thats not good for bleeding edge |
| 10:43.06 | yunhual | which terminal has get a horizontal scroll bar, who can tell me ? |
| 10:43.13 | Anarka | you need a decent connection to get constant updates |
| 10:43.14 | khaleel5000 | cydrok :- I saw toy story , but forgot it , can someone reassosiate waht sid is( i mean is it unstable one or stable one or testing one ) |
| 10:43.20 | gonzo-nb | tralala: not very helpfull :) |
| 10:43.23 | lunitik | cydork: umm... etch and sid are updated about as much as each other actually... |
| 10:43.35 | gonzo-nb | I get errors concerning the dependencies |
| 10:43.36 | tralala | I wonder what's a good bleeding edge distro for newbs. I don't see debian in this role. |
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| 10:43.37 | Anarka | khaleel5000 sid is the crazy buy that likes to destroy stuff ;) |
| 10:43.37 | yunhual | which terminal has get a horizontal scroll bar, who can tell me ? |
| 10:43.39 | yunhual | the xterm hasn't get |
| 10:43.41 | cydork | lunitik: well atleast etch will be frozen soon :P |
| 10:43.47 | lunitik | cydork: only, currently etch is missing things, because they aren't ready for release |
| 10:43.56 | cydork | !tell khaleel5000 about sid faq |
| 10:43.59 | cydork | !tell khaleel5000 about sid |
| 10:44.07 | lunitik | cydork: that makes etch worse, not better in my opinion... and the freeze effects sid AND etch... |
| 10:44.09 | ayaa | anyone could suggest me a network resources monitor (snmp) that can be viewed on shell explorer (lynx ...) |
| 10:44.10 | deeem | how do i check how much disk limit is an account subjected to? |
| 10:44.27 | yunhual | which terminal has get a horizontal scroll bar, who can tell me ? |
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| 10:44.32 | scx | ayaa:iftop |
| 10:44.38 | lunitik | cydork: devels can't upload to sid during a freeze either... to ensure they are focused on releasing... |
| 10:44.46 | liable | there was a bit of a depressing email from d-d-a today wrt etch release and dunc tank |
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| 10:45.04 | cydork | lunitik: ya that's true and which things are you talking about? |
| 10:45.10 | tralala | gonzo-nb, do you run sarge? |
| 10:45.10 | Fox | dunc tank IS depressing |
| 10:45.38 | lunitik | cydork: all the things that the factoid 'why is foo not in testing' was created for... |
| 10:45.50 | tralala | liable, link? |
| 10:46.04 | liable | lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce |
| 10:46.09 | yunhual | is there any terminal has a horizontal scroll bar |
| 10:46.15 | cydork | tralala: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/10/msg00026.html |
| 10:46.20 | lunitik | cydork: you're in here enough for me to not go looking for packages, right? because that would be horribly time consuming... |
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| 10:46.26 | khaleel5000 | ok..... so there is no debian version with 'xgl' that is reasonably stable? |
| 10:46.33 | Ben` | when I try to view a PHP file on my server it tries to download it, anyone know how to fix it? |
| 10:46.38 | gonzo-nb | Fox: yes, sarge 3.1 (amd64) |
| 10:46.39 | pumpkin0 | khaleel5000: nope. |
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| 10:46.43 | liable | khaleel5000: its not officially packaed at all |
| 10:46.46 | jetscreamer | mimetype ben |
| 10:46.50 | lunitik | khaleel5000: depends, do you consider Ubuntu a Debian version? :P |
| 10:46.54 | khaleel5000 | yunhual: i cant think of terminal that has horizontal bar |
| 10:46.57 | Ben` | jetscreamer, I tried that already |
| 10:47.01 | lunitik | (most here don't... don't flame me too much for that) |
| 10:47.04 | cydork | lunitik: i know :) but it's like this that doesn't mean etch is bad.. |
| 10:47.27 | lunitik | cydork: depends... for everyone using nvidia for instance... I'd say its bad... |
| 10:47.29 | deeem | how do i check how much disk limit is an account subjected to? |
| 10:47.35 | deeem | like ulimit -a ? |
| 10:47.37 | yunhual | thank you khaleel5000 |
| 10:47.50 | Ben` | jetscreamer, apache2.conf has "AddHandler php-script .php" and "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" |
| 10:47.51 | Fox | gonzo-nb: wrong person, you might want to answer tralala :) |
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| 10:48.26 | jetscreamer | no idea ben |
| 10:48.39 | Ben` | damn |
| 10:49.35 | wols_ | lunitik: sid freeze? |
| 10:49.35 | khaleel5000 | ok so which reasonably stable version of debian comes with lots of programmes? |
| 10:49.35 | lunitik | wols_: you can't upload to sid while testing is frozen... |
| 10:49.35 | gonzo-nb | also, while I'm here, can u tell me a few good https/ftps to add to my sources.list? |
| 10:49.35 | liable | Ben`: the module is enabled too? dpkg-reconfigure apache2? |
| 10:49.35 | pumpkin0 | khaleel5000: "testing" |
| 10:49.41 | khaleel5000 | testing aka (name of the toy story charaacter? |
| 10:49.50 | lunitik | wols_: effectively... to me at least, that means sid is frozen too ;) |
| 10:49.53 | wols_ | khaleel5000: each debian branch has >15k packages |
| 10:50.15 | Ben` | liable, that says "Package `apache2' is not installed and no info is available." :s |
| 10:50.16 | cydork | Ben`: installed libapache-mod-php5?? |
| 10:50.16 | ayaa | is there any way to let my server display some monitoring information on its screen and stay locked so no one can use the keyboard to enter the shell, beacause as i know if an application is running on the stdout, the shell should be unlocked |
| 10:50.17 | Bushmills | gonzo-nb: look here: http://www.apt-get.org/ |
| 10:50.17 | wols_ | !tell gonzo-nb about mirrors |
| 10:50.17 | Ben` | cydork, yep |
| 10:50.27 | liable | khaleel5000: if you are going to get cd's ask for the etch ones (not yet officially released) |
| 10:50.28 | khaleel5000 | wols_: each debian branch = every version of debian , be it stable unstable etc |
| 10:50.28 | lunitik | wols_: I thought sarge is still less than that? and woody (oldstable) is certainly less... |
| 10:50.28 | cydork | Ben`: it's enabled? |
| 10:50.32 | wols_ | gonzo-nb: and use apt-get.org at totally your own risk. no support |
| 10:50.52 | khaleel5000 | liable: etch is stable right? |
| 10:53.22 | liable | Ben`: try just apache then |
| 10:53.22 | fluxdude | when I want to add a user to a group I do usermod -G group1,group2,group3,newgroup username but this means I have to type all the groups again, not good if I'm in a LOT of groups. Is there a better way? |
| 10:53.22 | Ben` | cydork, I think so |
| 10:53.22 | wols_ | khaleel5000: etch is testing |
| 10:53.23 | liable | khaleel5000: no, testing, soon to be stable |
| 10:53.23 | gonzo-nb | great! th@nx |
| 10:53.23 | lunitik | khaleel5000: no... etch is next stable... being released December... |
| 10:53.23 | khaleel5000 | ok where do i get that testnig one |
| 10:53.23 | cydork | lunitik: have you been hanging out at ubuntu forums?? |
| 10:53.23 | khaleel5000 | where do i get etch |
| 10:53.23 | khaleel5000 | link |
| 10:53.23 | Bushmills | wols_: what is not "at your own risk" ... does sarge come with any sort of guarantee? |
| 10:53.23 | wols_ | www.debian.org |
| 10:53.23 | khaleel5000 | and the latest version of etch |
| 10:53.23 | liable | !d-i |
| 10:53.23 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc,net, #debian-boot. |
| 10:53.23 | yunhual | i find one with google |
| 10:53.23 | yunhual | http://software.jessies.org/terminator/ |
| 10:53.23 | Ben` | liable, apache's running on my server, but I get "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: apache2 is not installed/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: apache2 is not installed" :s |
| 10:53.24 | wols_ | Bushmills: we DO give support for sarge. we can't give support for backports |
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| 10:53.24 | yunhual | i find one with google |
| 10:53.24 | yunhual | http://software.jessies.org/terminator/ |
| 10:53.24 | yunhual | it has get a horizontal scroll bar |
| 10:53.24 | liable | Ben`: dpkg-reconfigure apache |
| 10:53.24 | Edward_TLS | hi |
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| 10:53.24 | Bushmills | wols_: de facto, true. though on voluntary base |
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| 10:53.25 | khaleel5000 | ok so etch = testing = gonna come out final at december , is available at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 10:53.25 | lunitik | cydork: I use Kubuntu on two boxes here... at least one is about to be regular Ubuntu... |
| 10:53.25 | Edward_TLS | can I use rsync toonly update a few dirs and keep the remaing files intact... |
| 10:53.25 | wols_ | Bushmills: you can buy debian support too |
| 10:53.25 | yunhual | but i got many error when i compile it |
| 10:53.25 | khaleel5000 | it wil not have XGL though |
| 10:53.25 | Edward_TLS | to only |
| 10:53.25 | khaleel5000 | right? |
| 10:53.25 | pumpkin0 | khaleel5000: right |
| 10:53.25 | liable | khaleel5000: no xgl, but it will have aiglx |
| 10:53.25 | lunitik | cydork: I don't regular any Ubuntu community gathering places though, no |
| 10:53.26 | Ben` | liable, that says apache is not insalled |
| 10:53.26 | jetscreamer | try apache2 ? |
| 10:53.26 | liable | Ben`: dpkg -l apache2 |
| 10:53.26 | lunitik | Mainly because it makes my brain hurt... such idiocy... |
| 10:53.26 | Ben` | liable, "un apache2 <none> (no description available)" |
| 10:53.51 | lunitik | (They have their intelligent users, but yeah, they are definitely succeeding at attracting a very new audience...) |
| 10:53.52 | liable | Ben`: netstat -plunt |grep 80 |
| 10:54.02 | jetscreamer | i think of them as the ebayaol crowd |
| 10:54.08 | Ben` | liable, "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN" |
| 10:54.15 | cydork | jetscreamer: you forgot yahoo :P |
| 10:54.19 | pelzi_ | free software and noobs... |
| 10:54.20 | jetscreamer | ebayol |
| 10:54.40 | ayaa | is there any way to let my server display some monitoring information on its screen and stay locked so no one can use the keyboard to enter the shell, beacause as i know if an application is running on the stdout, the shell should be unlocked |
| 10:54.45 | jetscreamer | ebayohel |
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| 10:55.00 | wols_ | jetscreamer: we got it by now |
| 10:55.16 | khaleel5000 | ok fellas the link would be http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ in there i select the FULL cds/DVD set for I386 for i386 testing DVD set it link will be http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/etch_di_beta3/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 10:55.26 | khaleel5000 | 3 DVDs |
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| 10:55.29 | wols_ | Ben`: use the command you were given by liable. not a made up one |
| 10:55.41 | liable | Ben`: what program is listening on 80? that netstat cmd should have showed the process |
| 10:55.42 | pelzi_ | 50000... |
| 10:56.44 | lunitik | Switching their FreeBSD and Solaris boxes to Linux (via Oracle though apparently :/ ) |
| 10:56.45 | yunhual | when i use mysql, i typed the command select * from XXX, the out put very confusion |
| 10:56.45 | yunhual | so i want a terminal with a horizontal scroll bar |
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| 10:56.45 | khaleel5000 | yunhual: any particular reason? |
| 10:56.45 | Ben` | liable, it just shows "b3n:~# netstat -plunt |grep 80 |
| 10:56.45 | Ben` | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -" |
| 10:56.45 | cydork | lunitik: now we should join #debian-offtopic :P |
| 10:57.05 | wols_ | Ben`: paste the output of "ps aux" in a pastebin |
| 10:57.09 | lunitik | cydork: shhh... stew hasn't noticed yet :P |
| 10:57.12 | yunhual | the table have many column, select * from table, |
| 10:57.20 | liable | Ben`: and you can actually access your server at the moment? |
| 10:57.22 | wols_ | Ben`: oh. you are not root. run the netstat command as root |
| 10:57.24 | Fox | cydork: or /exec -out sudo shutdown -h now :) |
| 10:57.41 | yunhual | the out auto wrap to the next line |
| 10:57.56 | yunhual | the output auto wrap to the next line |
| 10:58.02 | yunhual | sorry for my english |
| 10:58.03 | Ben` | liable, wols_, this is on a virtual server if that makes any difference |
| 10:58.04 | wols_ | yunhual: why do you need to run this command and do scrolling? |
| 10:58.04 | cydork | Fox: it's okey if you tell me. but dont tell that to others :) |
| 10:58.05 | Ben` | and I am on root |
| 10:58.16 | wols_ | Ben`: it doesn't. become root |
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| 10:58.22 | Fox | I'll try to remember :) |
| 10:58.29 | liable | Ben`: nah, make no difference, when you su to root, do su-, not just su |
| 10:58.30 | fasta | What package contains q3canvas.h? |
| 10:58.39 | liable | err, su - |
| 10:58.43 | wols_ | !tell fasta about search |
| 10:58.44 | Fox | fasta: ask apt-file ? |
| 10:58.45 | yunhual | khaleel5000 can you understand me ??? |
| 10:59.06 | Ben` | liable, but I'm already logged in as root |
| 10:59.19 | yunhual | khaleel5000 can you understand me ?? |
| 10:59.22 | khaleel5000 | well you need a terminal which has a horizontal scroll bar , like otheres have vertical only |
| 10:59.25 | fasta | Fox: never mind the website works. apt-file is broken for some time. |
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| 10:59.41 | yunhual | yes |
| 10:59.41 | liable | Ben`: echo $PATH |
| 10:59.52 | khaleel5000 | yunhual: is it that you want?? ........ what reason i mean we might tell you how to go ahead to set the problem |
| 10:59.58 | wols_ | liable: what has PATH to do with his prob? |
| 10:59.59 | Ben` | liable, "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11" |
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| 11:00.14 | Fox | fasta: apt-file just worked for me... answer is libqt4-dev |
| 11:00.23 | liable | Ben`: okie, paste your ps then |
| 11:00.25 | tarzeau | is josh triplett here? |
| 11:00.27 | pelzi_ | get a bigger screen. |
| 11:00.39 | fasta | Fox: hmm, then it got fixed. |
| 11:00.42 | liable | wols_: i thought he might have su'd without the - |
| 11:01.00 | Ben` | liable, http://pastebin.ca/224373 |
| 11:01.03 | wols_ | liable: netstat is in /bin |
| 11:01.11 | liable | wols_: because his netstat doent look right |
| 11:01.34 | wols_ | liable: it's a netstat that would show if he was a normal user |
| 11:01.40 | khaleel5000 | FELLAS , this TESING one , how old will its programmes be? |
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| 11:01.55 | wols_ | khaleel5000: fix your caps lock please |
| 11:01.58 | Fox | teasing ? :) |
| 11:02.03 | liable | wols_: yeah, but see his # prompt |
| 11:02.11 | khaleel5000 | wols_: intened for emphasizing not shouting |
| 11:02.12 | lunitik | khaleel5000: you do the math... its about to freeze... and its due in December... |
| 11:02.17 | Fox | Debian Teasing, I like this one |
| 11:02.29 | wols_ | Ben`: you run apache2. so why isn't it installed? |
| 11:02.35 | lvalue | hi everyone. why is there no mod_auth for the apache2 in debian ? how am i supposed to enable the basic authentication ? |
| 11:02.36 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: cant do gnu-math :D |
| 11:02.42 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: cant even gues |
| 11:03.08 | lunitik | !calc 12-10 |
| 11:03.15 | lunitik | Simple math |
| 11:03.25 | Ben` | wols_, I thought it was installed, apache's running and working |
| 11:03.26 | lunitik | Apparently thats not the right command though..... |
| 11:03.27 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: you mean 10 to 12 months old? |
| 11:03.33 | cydork | khaleel5000: nope |
| 11:03.41 | liable | Ben`: what are you doing? is that in a chroot jail or something? |
| 11:03.43 | pelzi_ | 12-10=2 |
| 11:03.48 | khaleel5000 | cydork: then what i cant undersand |
| 11:03.53 | khaleel5000 | pelzi_: that means 2 months? |
| 11:03.58 | deeem | !calc 10*10 |
| 11:03.59 | pelzi_ | yes. |
| 11:04.01 | wols_ | 12:53 < Ben`> liable, "un apache2 <none> (no description available)" this sounds strange |
| 11:04.07 | wols_ | especially the <none> part |
| 11:04.07 | lunitik | khaleel5000: no... its october... the 10th month... december is the 12th month... thats 2 months apart.... |
| 11:04.09 | Ben` | liable, I think it might be |
| 11:04.11 | liable | Ben`: that is not the ps of a normal system |
| 11:04.11 | yunhual | name age |
| 11:04.13 | yunhual | ---- ------ |
| 11:04.14 | yunhual | aaa 78 |
| 11:04.16 | yunhual | bbb 8 |
| 11:04.17 | yunhual | the output like this, if there too many column, it will auto wrap to the next line, then i can't see it clearly |
| 11:04.24 | liable | yunhual: sop that |
| 11:04.28 | liable | stop |
| 11:04.28 | lunitik | !eval 10^3 |
| 11:04.29 | wols_ | yunhual: don't paste here! |
| 11:04.33 | Ben` | this is on a virtual server |
| 11:04.36 | lunitik | !botslap |
| 11:04.37 | dpkg | :( |
| 11:05.02 | yunhual | ok, sorry |
| 11:05.02 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: i didnot meant that |
| 11:05.02 | wols_ | yunhual: you didn't answer why you need it |
| 11:05.10 | lunitik | khaleel5000: then what did you mean? |
| 11:05.14 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: i meant say a xgl came in april~may , its not ther |
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| 11:05.29 | lunitik | khaleel5000: Xgl will NEVER be in Debian |
| 11:05.31 | wols_ | khaleel5000: and it never will be |
| 11:05.32 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: how many months old software will be there |
| 11:05.34 | cydork | khaleel5000: it will have aiglx. |
| 11:05.53 | liable | Ben`: no clue :/ |
| 11:06.08 | liable | lunitik: i dunno about that |
| 11:06.10 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: ok so if a package's version was released in this august will it be in Unstable or will be in This etch about to become stable |
| 11:06.17 | Ben` | :( |
| 11:06.19 | lunitik | khaleel5000: all those cool effects you want are done by Compiz though... compiz doesn't care which is used, xgl or aiglx |
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| 11:06.47 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: i dont care about XGL or AIGLX only , i wanted to know the |
| 11:06.49 | maxleaf | Hello, every one |
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| 11:07.05 | khaleel5000 | time after which packages seized to be added in the current testing |
| 11:07.26 | lunitik | khaleel5000: whatever is in testing right now will pretty much be exactly what is in Debian 3.2 |
| 11:07.38 | lunitik | (or are they calling it 4.0? I forget) |
| 11:07.45 | cydork | lunitik: it's 4.0 |
| 11:07.58 | khaleel5000 | lunitik:debian 3.2 is gonna be released in december right? |
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| 11:08.21 | lunitik | khaleel5000: 4.0 I guess... but yes, pending any issues that might make it slip... |
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| 11:08.57 | liable | 7.1 and compiz *should* be released in etch |
| 11:09.30 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: ok so the version to be released in december is either 3.2 or 4.0 right? |
| 11:09.32 | lunitik | liable: Compiz too? I'm not so sure... |
| 11:09.39 | liable | lunitik: yes |
| 11:09.41 | Ben` | liable, can I msg you? |
| 11:09.42 | lunitik | khaleel5000: it IS 4.0 |
| 11:09.54 | lunitik | khaleel5000: forget I said 3.2 |
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| 11:10.23 | liable | Ben`: heh, i dont think i can help you anymore, i havent ever run a vrtual server or a chroot jail |
| 11:10.26 | khaleel5000 | lunitik: ok and when will be current debian stable mature to become debinan stable |
| 11:10.26 | jetscreamer | i want 3.2! |
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| 11:10.30 | khaleel5000 | i mean will it be next year? |
| 11:10.39 | jetscreamer | never |
| 11:11.07 | pelzi_ | unstable will always be unstable |
| 11:11.22 | khaleel5000 | pelzi_: ok i cant tell you all my question |
| 11:11.35 | khaleel5000 | pelzi_: gimme a moment to rephrase |
| 11:11.41 | pelzi_ | yep |
| 11:11.56 | liable | Ben`: ask again in an hour or two when the rest of america wakes up |
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| 11:12.15 | Ben` | liable, ok, thanks |
| 11:12.16 | liable | Ben`: or try #apache |
| 11:12.27 | Ben` | will dol |
| 11:12.30 | Ben` | *do |
| 11:12.37 | khaleel5000 | suppose a programme version khaleel9.2 is in unstable deb. , it will be worked at and over the time it will be improved to khaleel9.2stable so will be added in debian stable |
| 11:12.45 | khaleel5000 | usually how long does it tiake |
| 11:12.48 | khaleel5000 | 4 months |
| 11:12.51 | khaleel5000 | one year? |
| 11:12.52 | khaleel5000 | 2 years? |
| 11:13.14 | liable | untill its stable? |
| 11:13.27 | khaleel5000 | yeah till its made stable |
| 11:13.39 | liable | if it becomes stable, it will go to testing, and be released the next release |
| 11:13.40 | khaleel5000 | jsut wanna know how old are the etch version of programmes in comparision to packages in unstable (say how many version differenceS) |
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| 11:13.47 | Kerr | khaleel5000: whenever you help fix all the bugs in it :-P |
| 11:13.59 | Kerr | thas' how long it takes. |
| 11:14.02 | khaleel5000 | Kerr: ok let me check my schedule |
| 11:14.21 | liable | khaleel5000: sarge was released over a year ago, so thats how old the software is in the current stable |
| 11:14.22 | Kerr | but, you can still backport the program; if you really feel the need. |
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| 11:14.44 | liable | !release |
| 11:14.44 | dpkg | Sarge has been released (2005-06-06). Sarge is Debian 3.1, and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian> or <woody->sarge>. |
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| 11:14.58 | khaleel5000 | if khaleel9.2 is in unstable then stable has khaleel9.1 ? or will be be khaleel9.0 or will it have khaleel8.9 |
| 11:15.13 | liable | so by the time etch is released, the stable software will be ~18 months old |
| 11:15.37 | jetscreamer | k-4.0 stable k 7.2 testing k. 7.9 unstable |
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| 11:16.01 | khaleel5000 | jetscreamer: oooooooh that is somewhat a thing that i needed to know , |
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| 11:16.09 | khaleel5000 | jetscreamer: thanks...... really |
| 11:16.31 | khaleel5000 | and what do most of people use TESTING or UNSTABLE or STABLE |
| 11:16.35 | jetscreamer | that's a very gross approximation |
| 11:16.51 | khaleel5000 | jetscreamer: in your Guesstimate |
| 11:16.55 | jetscreamer | testing makes a better desktop, use sid ar your own risk but it's similar |
| 11:17.00 | jetscreamer | at |
| 11:17.10 | khaleel5000 | sid = unstable? |
| 11:17.13 | khaleel5000 | testing = etch |
| 11:17.14 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 11:17.22 | khaleel5000 | stable = ? |
| 11:17.27 | jetscreamer | but soon etch will == stable |
| 11:17.33 | jetscreamer | atm it's sarge |
| 11:17.40 | Kerr | khaleel5000: I use stable/sarge, with the programs i'd like newer versions of backported. |
| 11:18.03 | Firefishe | What is the command for configuring a mouse? |
| 11:18.14 | jetscreamer | why |
| 11:18.19 | khaleel5000 | Ok |
| 11:18.23 | khaleel5000 | thankyou |
| 11:18.49 | jetscreamer | !wyttd Firefishe |
| 11:18.56 | jetscreamer | hmm |
| 11:19.02 | liable | +a? |
| 11:19.09 | jetscreamer | !wayttd Firefishe |
| 11:19.09 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Firefishe? |
| 11:19.30 | roscau | during the installatiion |
| 11:19.36 | roscau | when I pressed F2 |
| 11:19.46 | tralala | I think DT is a really interesting social experiment. I'm really curious to see the impact it will have on Debian in a year from now. |
| 11:19.47 | roscau | how can I see the CDROM ? |
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| 11:20.01 | cydork | tralala: read that? |
| 11:20.10 | maxleaf | open the directory? |
| 11:20.11 | liable | tralala: if it doesnt wreck it.. |
| 11:20.22 | Firefishe | I just installed testing from the net. Everything was fine with Xorg and enlightenment working just fine. I then d/l gnome and all it's files, and now x won't work, keeps hanging on my touchpad, saying it can't find it. |
| 11:20.23 | khaleel5000 | to install all packages of Debina Testing ,. what amout of disk space will i need ? |
| 11:20.26 | jetscreamer | what is DT |
| 11:20.33 | liable | dunc tank |
| 11:20.35 | tralala | cydork, yep |
| 11:20.41 | roscau | Go to the shell on console 2, install pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/scsi-extra-modules-2.6.11-1-386-di_1.03_i386.udeb, and insmod aacraid.ko. |
| 11:20.48 | roscau | How can i do that ? |
| 11:20.58 | jetscreamer | alt+F2 |
| 11:20.59 | tralala | liable, I don't think Debian is so fragile |
| 11:21.05 | roscau | alt+f2 is ok |
| 11:21.13 | roscau | but I can't see pool |
| 11:21.22 | liable | roscau: hrm, cd should be something like /ide/discs/disc1/.. |
| 11:21.40 | roscau | ok let's see |
| 11:21.41 | liable | roscau: poke around in that ide dir |
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| 11:22.01 | pumpkin0 | Firefishe: "paste" the xorg config and xorg log. Ask dpkg about paste. |
| 11:22.09 | liable | roscau: but i dont know how you are supposed to install that udeb |
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| 11:22.18 | jetscreamer | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:22.22 | Firefishe | pumpkin..gotcha..brb |
| 11:22.26 | Firefishe | thanks |
| 11:22.36 | clownish | hey.. can somebody explain me for what /lib/init/rw is used? |
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| 11:22.46 | pumpkin0 | !tell Firefishe about paste |
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| 11:23.12 | liable | roscau: what install disk is that anyway??? |
| 11:23.23 | numer | hello, is there a tool out which would make my soundcard a answering machine for analog teleofon lines? |
| 11:23.25 | bkhl | Does anyone have an unofficial repository with Firefox 2, for until whatever is going on is done? |
| 11:23.34 | tralala | it has the potential to make Debian more pragmatic by reducing the motivation of the idealists to contribute |
| 11:23.45 | Firefishe | brb |
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| 11:23.56 | jetscreamer | mounting stuff on init? |
| 11:23.57 | tralala | both code and flaming |
| 11:24.05 | roscau | no IDE |
| 11:24.20 | roscau | I am looking for an install disc with aacraid module |
| 11:24.21 | liable | hah, reduce tha flaming? nevar! |
| 11:24.42 | liable | roscau: er, /dev/ide.. |
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| 11:25.03 | cydork | tralala: flaming has been incresed atm :P |
| 11:25.20 | tralala | liable, who are *you* to spoil my dreams?!!!11 |
| 11:25.35 | liable | !irritate tralala |
| 11:25.35 | dpkg | tralala: Y iz debain so old? who uses gnome lol |
| 11:25.54 | yunhual | register linuxsir |
| 11:25.58 | tarzeau | abrotman... freepop doesn't need kyra anymore |
| 11:26.01 | roscau | liable ... nothng in /dev |
| 11:26.05 | roscau | I am using : |
| 11:26.06 | roscau | http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/06/26/debian-installer-with-kernel-2611/ |
| 11:26.10 | tarzeau | and if someone makes the clanlib update, we're in |
| 11:26.16 | roscau | debian-2.6.11-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 11:26.17 | tralala | cydork, atm nothing can be concluded. This is why I want to see it in a year from now |
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| 11:26.25 | liable | roscau: has the installer run up to the partitioning section? |
| 11:26.31 | roscau | no |
| 11:26.42 | roscau | I am durind the module selection |
| 11:26.52 | liable | let it run up to that bit, but dont partition, then switch to tty2 |
| 11:26.56 | roscau | There is no module named aacraid |
| 11:27.10 | tralala | liable, lol |
| 11:27.10 | roscau | thus I am trying to load manually |
| 11:27.38 | roscau | Go to the shell on console 2, install pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/scsi-extra-modules-2.6.11-1-386-di_1.03_i386.udeb, and insmod aacraid.ko. |
| 11:27.56 | roscau | maybe I can put the udeb file on floppy |
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| 11:28.20 | liable | roscau: if its on the cd, the installer should load it, i woulda thought |
| 11:28.21 | cydork | roscau: what about sarge 2.6.16 from backports? or 2.6.18 even? |
| 11:28.37 | roscau | There is no aacraid module |
| 11:29.02 | roscau | I can't find any netinst with this modules |
| 11:29.16 | liable | tralala: your lagging a bit bad fella |
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| 11:29.46 | ufk | after a net install of debian, i rebooted the system, and i get: Begin: Waiting for root filesystem.... any ideas? |
| 11:29.57 | liable | who has a debian kernel, modprobe -l |grep aacraid |
| 11:30.17 | c00lfon | [c00lfon@domek]:[~] % modprobe -l |grep aacraid |
| 11:30.17 | c00lfon | /lib/modules/2.6.17-2-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/aacraid/aacraid.ko |
| 11:30.18 | c00lfon | :> |
| 11:30.19 | pumpkin0 | ufk: did you install on SATA or NFS ? |
| 11:30.27 | liable | c00lfon: ta :) |
| 11:30.35 | c00lfon | np |
| 11:30.36 | c00lfon | ;) |
| 11:30.48 | SeanTater | liable: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-486/kernel/drivers/scsi/aacraid/aacraid.ko |
| 11:30.50 | liable | roscau: get a newer installer, try the latest etch one or one of the sarge with .17 or .18 |
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| 11:31.03 | liable | ooh, even .15 |
| 11:31.07 | liable | SeanTater: :) |
| 11:31.17 | roscau | ok I look for a .17 or a .18 thanks |
| 11:31.22 | ufk | pumpkin0, sata |
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| 11:31.27 | liable | roscau: you want sarge? |
| 11:31.31 | roscau | yes |
| 11:31.32 | cydork | !tell roscau about sarge 2.6.18 |
| 11:31.41 | liable | !sarge 2.6.18 |
| 11:31.41 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.18 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2618.htm (See creator's warnings) |
| 11:31.43 | pumpkin0 | ufk: and all modules/drivers for the SATA-controller are loaded ? |
| 11:31.56 | liable | c00lfon: damn you! :P |
| 11:31.58 | ufk | pumpkin0, i just installed and restarted, didn't choose any modules |
| 11:32.04 | cydork | liable: muhahahah |
| 11:32.12 | tralala | liable, this is what you get for saturating your connection with torrents |
| 11:32.19 | liable | heh |
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| 11:32.53 | Firefishe | hey pumpkin0, do you know what the command line command is for re-setting up an x-server? |
| 11:33.08 | cydork | !drxx Firefishe |
| 11:33.09 | dpkg | Firefishe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:33.14 | pumpkin0 | ufk: my guess: SATA needs some modules compiled in which are fairly new. If you installed the old standard kernel it will not work. You need to install a kernel supporting your SATA-chip. Which one is it ? |
| 11:33.32 | cydork | ufk: which version of debian do you have? |
| 11:33.37 | Firefishe | gracias, that should do it |
| 11:33.41 | Firefishe | *bow* |
| 11:33.47 | Firefishe | brb |
| 11:34.16 | ufk | etch |
| 11:34.23 | ufk | i booted from the cd and chroot to my system |
| 11:34.47 | liable | ufk: was that the rc3 installer or daily build or? |
| 11:34.56 | fluxdude | I'm trying to play some music on audacious and can see the song playing and the bars jumping up and down but I can't hear any sound when I plug in my earphones to the motherboard. Is the sound possibly muted or something, do I need to get setmixer and use it to get around this? |
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| 11:35.05 | liable | ufk: did you wait for a fair while? |
| 11:35.22 | ufk | i'm updating the kernel to 2.6.17-2 instead of 2.6.16 |
| 11:35.28 | ufk | it may do the trick no ? |
| 11:35.43 | liable | cant hurt i guess |
| 11:35.48 | wols_ | ufk: what mobo/SATA controllre do you have? |
| 11:35.49 | cydork | ufk: it *may* |
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| 11:36.01 | ttz | Hi there! I'm running Debian stock kernel 2.4.27 in Qemu and I wished to upgrade to 2.4.33.3... However with the new kernel, the boot stalls after printing "Freeing unused kernel memory: 316k freed"... Any idea or clue ? |
| 11:36.29 | c00lfon | ttz, Smth is wrong with Your kernel config? ;P |
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| 11:36.30 | liable | when did that kernel release |
| 11:36.32 | wols_ | ttz: if you want a newer kernel, get a 2.6 one |
| 11:37.05 | ufk | intel sata |
| 11:37.23 | wols_ | intel has sata for a LONG time. which chipset? |
| 11:37.28 | liable | ich? |
| 11:37.34 | wols_ | liable: 08-31 |
| 11:37.35 | ttz | wols_: I have personal patches against 2.4 branch, and haven't ported it to 2.6 yet |
| 11:37.51 | liable | wols_: i must have asleep |
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| 11:38.16 | ttz | c00lfon: I guess so... but ISTR that "Freeing unused kernel memory..." is showed right before loading init(8), isn't it ? |
| 11:38.23 | wols_ | afaik yes |
| 11:38.35 | wols_ | could be your menu.lst being wrong |
| 11:39.12 | ufk | 82801GB |
| 11:39.21 | ufk | ICH7 Family |
| 11:40.03 | ttz | wols_: I checked this, but menu.lst has been automatically regenerated by update-grub and has the exact same args as the 2.4.27 |
| 11:40.23 | ufk | same error message |
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| 11:40.32 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 11:40.38 | ufk | not error message.. i mean the message waiting for device |
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| 11:41.04 | ufk | and i can see that it has found my drive |
| 11:41.27 | liable | give it a few minutes |
| 11:42.12 | jetscreamer | ufk i think you may have http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata the first one |
| 11:42.23 | c00lfon | ttz, Try: noapic nolocalapic or acpi=off or install24 or install24 noapic nolocalapic ;p |
| 11:42.53 | Mitja | Are these any good with etch? http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ Nvidia installer says it requires gcc-4.0 |
| 11:42.54 | jetscreamer | it's just lapic i 'think' |
| 11:43.20 | c00lfon | ttz, just type ,,Freeing unused kernel memory...'' in google.groups. ;p |
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| 11:43.38 | ttz | c00lfon: I haven't compiled in ACPI |
| 11:43.56 | ufk | jetscreamer, ahhmm it may be the problem. but multipile disk controllers? i have only one hard drive |
| 11:43.58 | ttz | c00lfon: I'm trying /boot/dot.config-2.4.27 for 2.4.33.3 |
| 11:44.04 | ttz | I'll see then |
| 11:44.11 | ufk | ALERT: /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 11:44.12 | c00lfon | Mhmmmm. |
| 11:44.35 | jetscreamer | are your cdroms on the pata? |
| 11:44.39 | liable | ufk: try removing udev |
| 11:44.48 | jetscreamer | or booting a -486 kernel |
| 11:44.58 | jetscreamer | which doesn't require udev |
| 11:45.04 | jetscreamer | or someting |
| 11:45.05 | ufk | my cdrom drive is at /dev/hda |
| 11:45.10 | jetscreamer | yep |
| 11:45.11 | ufk | my ata is /dev/sda |
| 11:45.29 | jetscreamer | i think you have entered my udev hell, personally |
| 11:45.46 | jetscreamer | you can create udev rules if this is so |
| 11:46.05 | ufk | how? |
| 11:46.08 | jetscreamer | me i just remove udev |
| 11:46.12 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 11:46.24 | jetscreamer | the rules are in /etc/udev/rules i 'think' |
| 11:46.24 | Krikey | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.39 | jetscreamer | yes Krikey |
| 11:46.49 | jetscreamer | secpanel i 'think' |
| 11:47.07 | Krikey | thanks |
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| 11:48.14 | jetscreamer | CD-ROM drives connected to SATA controllers not detected |
| 11:48.23 | jetscreamer | who was that with the cd? |
| 11:48.38 | ufk | if i remove udev, it wants to remove 50 other gnome packages |
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| 11:48.49 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:48.49 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 11:48.56 | jetscreamer | fluxdude: you tell the player to use hw:1 instead of hw:0 |
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| 11:49.18 | maxleaf | bye bye |
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| 11:50.14 | ufk | dn4, ah.. cool |
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| 11:51.00 | liable | ah, the canadian ipod user |
| 11:51.12 | Tallu | that's me! |
| 11:51.17 | fluxdude | I'm a bit stuck why my sound doesn't work. Audacious is playing the bars are jumping, the earphones are plugged in but nothing is coming out. alsamixer settings are to maximum. what am I missing? |
| 11:51.18 | dn4 | ufk, Looks like an alien being with a really long head |
| 11:51.31 | jetscreamer | looks egyptian |
| 11:51.34 | jetscreamer | fluxdude: you tell the player to use hw:1 instead of hw:0 |
| 11:51.44 | dn4 | jetscreamer, exactly :) |
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| 11:52.02 | ufk | dn4: i saw an indian |
| 11:52.06 | infernixxx | fluxdude: unmute, perhaps? |
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| 11:53.30 | ufk | any ideas how do i make my debian start? |
| 11:54.10 | ]Gnea[ | ufk: press the power-on button. |
| 11:54.26 | jetscreamer | udev rule |
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| 11:54.32 | liable | try adding yor controller chipset module to initramfs.conf, or whatever it is these days, and reconfigure the kernel |
| 11:54.41 | jetscreamer | the gnome apps are leaving because of hal iirc |
| 11:54.49 | jetscreamer | which depends on udev |
| 11:54.56 | liable | gnom has an unhealthy reliance on udev |
| 11:55.01 | ]Gnea[ | good, fuck gnome |
| 11:55.45 | jetscreamer | remove udev and it will boot though |
| 11:55.49 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 11:55.52 | ufk | removing udev |
| 11:55.56 | ufk | i'll use afterstep i guess |
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| 11:56.45 | liable | not all of gnome relies on it, should be still usable |
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| 11:57.07 | Coke | A bit OT, but I'm trying to use ripperx and I get "error code 32" from the CDDB server. Alternate URL's? Solutions? |
| 11:57.17 | tuxedup | When I have a usb storage device plugged in, I an unmount it via kwikdisk and the command line, if I try via the desktop or konq, it does nothing. Any idea how to solve , my fstab http://rafb.net/paste/results/IazXOc46.html |
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| 11:58.37 | fluxdude | infernixxx: ah that was it, I thought it might be but I didn't see the option in alsamixer, i've not used it before and it's not intuitive |
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| 11:59.22 | ayaa | i have a server with no X installed on it, used with shell only, my problem that i want it to not to shut the monitor off after some time the monitor is plugged on the server |
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| 11:59.39 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: try user, not users |
| 11:59.48 | cricht0n|away | power saving in bios deactivated ? |
| 12:00.24 | Ben` | when I try to view a PHP file on my server it tries to download it, anyone know how to fix it? |
| 12:00.37 | liable | ayaa: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html |
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| 12:00.52 | Tallu | Ben`: you need to configure apache to send php to be parsed |
| 12:01.17 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: does not make any difference |
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| 12:01.49 | Ben` | Tallu: what do I need to change? |
| 12:01.50 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: considering that users is not a recognized fstab command, it just might |
| 12:01.57 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: who owns the directory? |
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| 12:02.06 | liable | users is valid |
| 12:02.34 | ayaa | liable, is there any way to let my server display some monitoring information on its screen and stay locked so no one can use the keyboard to enter the shell, beacause as i know if an application is running on the stdout, the shell should be unlocked |
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| 12:02.55 | liable | ayaa: i dont know |
| 12:02.56 | ]Gnea[ | liable: not according to the manpage. |
| 12:03.00 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: the directory should be owned by root, but that would mean that kwikdisk and command line would not mount or unmount the device |
| 12:03.34 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: when it's not mounted, yeah, it should be owned by root and chmod'd to allow others to read/write to it |
| 12:04.09 | liable | ]Gnea[: its valid for mount, thus for fstab |
| 12:04.24 | ufk | if i try to remove udev, it wants to remove all of my running kernel |
| 12:04.26 | ufk | kernels |
| 12:04.28 | ]Gnea[ | liable: no, they are two different things. |
| 12:04.52 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: anyway, chmod 755 should be sufficient before mounting it |
| 12:04.59 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: I can read/write and unmount as a normal user, the problem I am having is to do with kde its self not unmounting it |
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| 12:05.30 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: kwikdisk can unmount ias a normal user as I can do on the command line as a normal user, so I am guessing it is not permissions |
| 12:05.42 | liable | ]Gnea[: i disagree, but i cant be arsed arguing |
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| 12:06.15 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: i've never used kwikdisk, so it's probably an issue with the way its setup |
| 12:06.40 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: could I see your fstab if possible to see the differences? |
| 12:06.42 | ]Gnea[ | liable: *shrug* |
| 12:06.51 | ]Gnea[ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:07.42 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: i use that on all of my removable media, works just fine |
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| 12:09.31 | liable | ]Gnea[: ok, cant help it.. For documentation on the available options for non-nfs file systems, see mount(8) |
| 12:09.36 | liable | :P |
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| 12:10.08 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: make no difference to mine, konq still cannot unmount. Any other configs I should be looking at? |
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| 12:10.53 | mne | hi, I would like to use ptrace() with the PTRACE_GETSIGINFO request. while the request is specified in the man page, it is undefined in <sys/ptrace.h>. any explanations ? |
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| 12:15.00 | ufk | which udev rules i need to add in order to get sata devices to be recognized ? |
| 12:16.57 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: not sure... kwikdisk doesn't do anything here |
| 12:17.06 | liable | ufk: did it work without udev? |
| 12:17.17 | ]Gnea[ | tuxedup: i guess just check the config of konq/kde |
| 12:17.36 | ufk | liable, i can't remove udev! |
| 12:17.39 | ufk | it removes all of my kernels! |
| 12:17.50 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: perhaos it is a bug with kde or something, I am having problems with dvd's as well. I will wait for an update and have a look then |
| 12:18.04 | liable | wtf |
| 12:18.55 | ufk | yeah |
| 12:19.30 | azeem | ufk: you will have to use yaird instead of initramfs-tools if you want to remove udev and use stock Debian kernels I think |
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| 12:19.48 | liable | ufk: the kernel doesnt depend on udev though. |
| 12:19.57 | liable | oh, initramfs tools eh |
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| 12:20.11 | liable | i checked yaird but not initramfs |
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| 12:20.22 | Feax | When I go ssh on my debian server, on the window of putty there is write server.powaz-shell.com - putty, how can I change server.powaz-shell.com to another thing ? |
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| 12:22.01 | cr3 | I'm ashamed to ask this question but I'm really stuck: I removed debian (long story) and grub won't load anymore, so I'd like to do something like fdisk /mbr from a Linux live CD |
| 12:22.19 | andyjeffries | Can anyone tell me how to rip out a package using apt-get or dpkg when --force-all -r fails with an error (package specific uninstallation error) |
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| 12:22.51 | ufk | *sniff* |
| 12:22.53 | ufk | what do i do? |
| 12:23.09 | Feax | When I go ssh on my debian server, on the window of putty there is write server.powaz-shell.com - putty, how can I change server.powaz-shell.com to another thing ? |
| 12:23.26 | NachoBiz | you tell me |
| 12:23.35 | ufk | i can't remove udev |
| 12:23.39 | ufk | i can't install anything |
| 12:23.44 | ufk | i hate my life! *sniff* |
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| 12:24.59 | liable | ufk: did you try installing yaird |
| 12:24.59 | andyjeffries | Anyone here a dpkg expert? |
| 12:25.02 | Feax | How can I change the domain of my debian ? :( |
| 12:25.06 | ufk | liable, yaeh |
| 12:25.21 | liable | ufk: and it installed? |
| 12:26.06 | amphi | !tell andyjeffries about anyone |
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| 12:26.20 | g333k | hi, is there a channel for gdesklets topics? |
| 12:26.24 | liable | !hostname |
| 12:26.25 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 12:26.32 | Mitja | Is it possible to lock a package to not be removed by synaptic? |
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| 12:26.57 | liable | Mitja: does synaptic have a hold option? |
| 12:27.08 | Mitja | liable I don't know |
| 12:27.09 | andyjeffries | amphi: Thanks, I'd asked my real question and no-one answered, so I hoped that I'd be able to talk without someone who knew dpkg well because I may not be phrasing my question in the right terms. |
| 12:27.22 | liable | Mitja: look, if not, /msg dpkg hold |
| 12:27.34 | ufk | liable, it trys to open a file in /sys but i don't have nothing mounted there |
| 12:27.47 | liable | ufk: mount /proc and /sys |
| 12:28.30 | liable | someone needs to lay off the crack |
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| 12:29.22 | ufk | mounted |
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| 12:30.05 | Mitja | liable I did with the echo and dpkg, but synaptic still has it in its queue |
| 12:30.16 | tralala | I am a moron! If you see me trolling the channel you'd better ignore me!!! |
| 12:30.30 | ufk | tralala, what's with the self esteem ? :) |
| 12:31.16 | jetscreamer | i think he was aiming that at cricht0ff |
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| 12:32.00 | ufk | how do i setup my network connection so it will be dhcp ? |
| 12:32.06 | tuxedup | ]Gnea[: I think the problem is to do with konq and not my permissions etc, i can create link on desktop and mount/unmoutn work fine |
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| 12:32.29 | jetscreamer | man 5 interfaces for the difficult to understand way |
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| 12:32.35 | tralala | ufk, by reading the fine manul pf interfaces |
| 12:32.43 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/network/interfaces for the easy way |
| 12:32.59 | ufk | the file is already set up properly |
| 12:33.20 | liable | tralala: we know that :P |
| 12:33.23 | ufk | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 12:33.44 | jetscreamer | auto eth0 |
| 12:33.46 | tralala | ufk, ifdown eth0l; ifup eth0 |
| 12:33.57 | liable | ufk: for temporary, just do ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0 |
| 12:34.29 | tralala | liable, lol |
| 12:34.49 | ufk | i ran dhclient |
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| 12:35.06 | ufk | auto eth0? |
| 12:35.18 | ufk | ok i'll go read the docs.. manually the net works. thanks |
| 12:36.00 | jetscreamer | you put auto eth0 above the iface |
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| 12:36.18 | jetscreamer | that allow-hotplug may not function |
| 12:36.47 | liable | ufk: ya, auto eth0 above the line you have already |
| 12:36.54 | ufk | i see thanks |
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| 12:39.17 | Feax | can I change /etc/hostname with rebooting ? |
| 12:39.22 | Feax | without* |
| 12:40.05 | tralala | yes, with a simple text editor |
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| 12:40.10 | pumpkin0 | is there a well populated irc-channel for suspend2 support ? |
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| 12:40.33 | Feax | tralala: yes But after editing when I try to install proftpd it take the last hostname not the new :s |
| 12:40.50 | Feax | and when I type hostname it is still the last not the new |
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| 12:41.18 | NiCeBoY | hi urgent my system load average: 11.38, 10.20, 9.97 how can i solve this problem plz? |
| 12:41.31 | tralala | Feax, that's because changeing the fCline doesn't change the hostname of the machine |
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| 12:41.43 | pngwn | dumbass |
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| 12:41.52 | tralala | umh... colours |
| 12:41.54 | Feax | tralala: how can I change it so ? |
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| 12:42.05 | NiCeBoY | stew any solution plz ?my system load average: 11.38, 10.20, 9.97 how can i solve this problem plz? |
| 12:42.06 | liable | stipis laptop turned itself off.. :/ |
| 12:42.09 | liable | err, stupid |
| 12:42.16 | tralala | Feax, hostname newname iirc |
| 12:42.31 | himmelst_rutz | what's the command to check what packages a binary is associated to? |
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| 12:42.36 | Feax | tralala: can you explain please ? I don't undertsand |
| 12:42.40 | liable | Feax: see what dpkg said before about hostname |
| 12:42.49 | tralala | liable, your typing sucks |
| 12:42.54 | Feax | liable: I changed that but I don't want to reboot :S |
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| 12:43.05 | liable | tralala: i know, it only second to yours :P |
| 12:43.17 | tralala | Feax, hostname newname (type this as root) |
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| 12:43.36 | Feax | done tralala |
| 12:43.39 | Feax | thanks |
| 12:43.52 | usr_rob | i got my wlan broadcom chip worked with ndiswrapper yesterday, i know that its better to support free drivers but it has to be this way until i get another card, by the way anyone whos got a dell inspiron laptop 11xx series in here ? i'm asking cause i would appreciate some help to get framebuffer console in 1024 res. to work. |
| 12:43.59 | tralala | liable, no, no that was the second place in the beauty contest that you won |
| 12:44.08 | Mitja | liable the lastest etch appears to not work with nvidia well, unless you opt to keep old xserver packages |
| 12:44.21 | liable | heh, i would be pretty happy with second place :) |
| 12:44.37 | liable | Mitja: ya, theres no nvidia in etch atm |
| 12:45.33 | tralala | liable, I *kno* what you mean! :P |
| 12:45.53 | liable | !typosmite tralala |
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| 12:46.40 | DaveyB | Hi guys when I try to install WineCVS, it get's to this making of file and crashes with this output. Anyone know what is wrong? http://rafb.net/paste/results/t5QfFF51.html |
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| 12:47.15 | fasta | How do I disable beagled from starting in the first place? In gnome-session-properties->Startup Programs it's listed, but I already removed it in the previous session... It seems it doesn't get remembered... |
| 12:47.23 | unixslut | I'll soon find out |
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| 12:47.55 | tralala | %| |
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| 12:48.11 | Charminthemoose | can someone check if http://downstairscomputer.homelinux.net:81/ works? |
| 12:48.19 | liable | tralala: i didnt, but i dont care anyway :P |
| 12:48.30 | DaveyB | Charminthemoose, it works |
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| 12:48.57 | Charminthemoose | thanks |
| 12:49.11 | tralala | liable, heh :) okay, I'll stop being a jerk for today (I'll be back on sunday though!!!) |
| 12:49.55 | liable | haha |
| 12:51.13 | liable | 4th of december eh? |
| 12:51.43 | ufk | err |
| 12:51.47 | tralala | etch? |
| 12:51.49 | Feax | %| |
| 12:51.50 | ufk | now my mouse doesn't work both on X and console |
| 12:51.51 | Ben` | when I try to view a PHP file on my server it tries to download it, anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 12:52.07 | liable | tralala: yeah, AJ just responded to that DT email |
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| 12:52.17 | amphi | ufk: you installed gpm? |
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| 12:52.19 | liable | ufk: but it boots? |
| 12:52.20 | jetscreamer | modprobe mousedev if that fixes it, add the word 'mousedev' to /etc/modules |
| 12:53.04 | ufk | yeah |
| 12:53.06 | ufk | it boots :) |
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| 12:53.11 | ufk | i installed gpm |
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| 12:53.15 | tralala | liable, ah the new episode of my favourite show! |
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| 12:53.21 | liable | Ben`: check in the modules section of httpd.conf for the php modules. #apache no help eh? |
| 12:53.25 | ufk | it's the first time debian installation has caused me so many problems |
| 12:53.30 | liable | ufk: \o/ |
| 12:54.05 | liable | ufk: please file a bug against the installer, or mention it in #debian-boot on oftc |
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| 12:54.26 | liable | prolly the irc channel would be a good start |
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| 12:54.35 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 12:54.36 | Ben` | liable: the PHP module is loading |
| 12:54.43 | Ben` | liable: I've tried #php #apache and here, no one knows what's wrong:( |
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| 12:54.50 | liable | Ben`: :( |
| 12:54.53 | jetscreamer | ab-so-fuckin-lutely no help in #debian-boot :) |
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| 12:55.04 | DaveyB | Hi guys when I try to install WineCVS, it get's to this making of file and crashes with this output. Anyone know what is wrong? http://rafb.net/paste/results/t5QfFF51.html |
| 12:55.10 | liable | jetscreamer: yah, all bot notices about updates.. :( |
| 12:55.26 | cyzie | hello, is it possible to move my /home to another hdd? now my / is under 1 hdd, i would like to move /home into another hdd |
| 12:55.27 | liable | well when it was on FN it was like that |
| 12:55.32 | abrotman | ask #winehq or #cedega |
| 12:55.37 | liable | although i did get some good help there once |
| 12:56.01 | liable | cyzie: sure, cp it over and edit fstab |
| 12:56.18 | pumpkin0 | cyzie: change it´s localtion in /etc/fstab and make sure a empty dir named /home is still stored on / |
| 12:56.20 | cyzie | liable, is there any good step by step to follow ? |
| 12:56.29 | liable | !hard drive upgrade |
| 12:56.29 | dpkg | methinks hard drive upgrade is http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html |
| 12:56.36 | liable | cyzie: for the cp ^^ |
| 12:56.42 | cyzie | thanks liable ! :) |
| 12:56.45 | liable | though thats really for a / disk |
| 12:56.55 | Ben` | liable: any chance you could ssh into my server, and see if there's anything obvious I've missed? |
| 12:56.55 | liable | then just edit fstab, easy |
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| 12:57.26 | drkvg | hi there - what's up with firefox2 in debian? |
| 12:57.30 | Skiver | holy crap, http://www.lenovo.co.uk/tapes/ |
| 12:57.36 | Skiver | are these for real ? |
| 12:57.41 | liable | Ben`: dont ever ask a stranger on irc to do that. i realise you may be desperate to get it working, but you have no idea who i am :) |
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| 12:58.21 | liable | Ben`: all the smart people are waking up now, keep asking :) |
| 12:58.31 | Braindead | !tell drkvg about iceweasel |
| 12:58.34 | Ben` | liable: ok, thanks |
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| 12:59.30 | Charminthemoose | anyone know of any good file managers that are out there? |
| 12:59.39 | liable | mc |
| 12:59.47 | drkvg | Braindead: thanks, so that's the plan for releasing firefox2? |
| 12:59.49 | blondie | why might mpd not be willing to play/find flac files? I don't know if this is just how the debian package was compiled or what :| |
| 13:00.02 | cyzie | anyone have tried raid 1 on motherboard? (for mine, i have abit nf7-s2) |
| 13:00.19 | jetscreamer | there's a flac package somewhere iirc |
| 13:00.30 | jetscreamer | !info xfe |
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| 13:00.38 | jetscreamer | !info mc |
| 13:00.39 | dpkg | xfe: (lightweight file manager for X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.88-3.1 (sid), Packaged size: 883 kB, Installed size: 2828 kB |
| 13:00.42 | pumpkin0 | Skiver: no, not real |
| 13:00.44 | dpkg | mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 2087 kB, Installed size: 5396 kB |
| 13:00.44 | jonnylamb | Ben`: hello. areyou using apache2, php5? |
| 13:00.56 | Ben` | jonnylamb: yes |
| 13:01.09 | liable | cyzie: if its onboard raid, the kernel will see it as two disks, then you need to set up mdadm |
| 13:01.10 | Skiver | pumpkin0, looks like a prank |
| 13:01.19 | jonnylamb | Ben`: you have got libapache2-mod-php5 installed, right? |
| 13:01.30 | Ben` | jonnylamb: yeah |
| 13:01.32 | Skiver | pumpkin0, the jet pack clip looks so 3d. |
| 13:01.33 | cyzie | liable, yes, it is onboard raid, and during installation, it see 2 disks... |
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| 13:01.44 | Braindead | drkvg: if you really need ffox 2 right now pull the version from the experimental branch |
| 13:01.55 | liable | cyzie: if you are installing, the installer can set up software raid for you |
| 13:01.59 | jonnylamb | Ben`: what about (as root) dooing "a2enmod php5" ? |
| 13:02.04 | VIm_Enforcer | how to enable sound in debian? |
| 13:02.07 | cyzie | liable, i see |
| 13:02.08 | liable | cyzie: werent you doing this a while ago? |
| 13:02.15 | pumpkin0 | Skiver: both are edited heavily. even the robot looks uncanny. |
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| 13:02.19 | VIm_Enforcer | it says ALSA in not loaded on startup... |
| 13:02.20 | cyzie | liable, no |
| 13:02.21 | Ben` | jonnylamb: "This module is already enabled!" |
| 13:02.31 | drkvg | Braindead: ah, thanks for the tip |
| 13:02.34 | liable | cyzie: ok, must have been someone with a similar nick |
| 13:02.35 | jonnylamb | Ben`: and you have already restarted apache2 a few times, eh?! |
| 13:02.42 | Ben` | jonnylamb: yep |
| 13:02.44 | cyzie | liable, ok |
| 13:03.05 | Charminthemoose | how can i set up permission so a normal user can read/write to /mnt/hda1,which is my fat32 partition? |
| 13:03.15 | liable | !vfatrw |
| 13:03.16 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
| 13:03.20 | cydork | VIm_Enforcer: did you run alsaconf? |
| 13:03.28 | VIm_Enforcer | cydork, don't think so |
| 13:03.31 | VIm_Enforcer | let me run it |
| 13:03.52 | cyzie | liable, if the onboard raid to me sounds like half software/hardware raid ? |
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| 13:04.03 | liable | cyzie: software |
| 13:04.16 | VIm_Enforcer | cydork, it says no pci cards found... |
| 13:04.23 | VIm_Enforcer | i've got onboard soundcard |
| 13:04.28 | liable | cyzie: http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html |
| 13:04.47 | cydork | VIm_Enforcer: which one? |
| 13:04.47 | VIm_Enforcer | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
| 13:05.36 | jonnylamb | Ben`: hmm, okay. in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, find the lines that say "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" - are these commented out? |
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| 13:05.38 | cyzie | liable, i have 2 similar sata disks setup as mirroring in the bios. now do i need to setup mdadm ? |
| 13:05.48 | liable | VIm_Enforcer: what kernel you got? |
| 13:06.08 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, 2.4.27 |
| 13:06.12 | liable | cyzie: http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm |
| 13:06.24 | liable | VIm_Enforcer: you need 2.6 or the alsa-modules package |
| 13:06.29 | cyzie | liable, thanks |
| 13:06.34 | Ben` | jonnylamb: yes (and I've tried uncommenting them) |
| 13:06.50 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, oic |
| 13:06.51 | VIm_Enforcer | thx |
| 13:06.52 | cydork | VIm_Enforcer: which kernel are you using? |
| 13:06.57 | VIm_Enforcer | cydork, ^^ |
| 13:07.15 | cydork | !tell VIm_Enforcer about 2.4 alsa one-liner |
| 13:07.43 | liable | just get a 2.6 |
| 13:07.51 | cyzie | liable, the board i have with the onboard raid card, yes, u r right, it is software raid :( |
| 13:08.07 | cydork | cyzie: it's fake raid. |
| 13:08.07 | ehj20 | Hmmm, this has me flummoxed. I'm trying to make a rudimentary kiosk picture viewer to run automatically, but I can't stop the display from going to sleep! Any ideas on how to do this? |
| 13:08.08 | liable | cyzie: ya, all onboard raid controllers are |
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| 13:08.41 | liable | ehj20: man xset? |
| 13:09.06 | cyzie | liable, cydork i have tried dell PERC 4 and PERC5/i, it is real fast! |
| 13:09.08 | ehj20 | liable: looks promising, thanks. I'll look into that |
| 13:09.09 | pourriture | unless I have a scsi raid controller I use md raid ... but I am just silly that way |
| 13:09.36 | ayaa | how do I disable the blank screen mode, which activated after a few minutes? (using console and not X) |
| 13:09.48 | amphi | ayaa: setterm |
| 13:09.55 | liable | ayaa: did not that page i gave you help? |
| 13:09.56 | VIm_Enforcer | cydork, thanks a lot |
| 13:10.00 | VIm_Enforcer | you too liable |
| 13:10.02 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 13:10.05 | liable | np |
| 13:10.42 | pourriture | actually that is not true ... I have done raid-5 on a highpoint pci-sata raid controller ... using the driver from highpoint but it was more trouble than it was worth |
| 13:10.47 | Braindead | amphi: /etc/console-tools/config |
| 13:11.26 | Braindead | ayaa: that was for you :( |
| 13:11.26 | Braindead | :) |
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| 13:12.41 | Ben` | jonnylamb: any idea what could be wrong? |
| 13:12.48 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, do i have to reboot now ? |
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| 13:13.02 | cyzie | how do i know my kernel have raid supported ? |
| 13:13.45 | cydork | cyzie: grep RAID /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 13:14.09 | tralala | cydork, by installing a debian kernel you'll know that it has |
| 13:14.22 | cydork | tralala: yep that's true :) |
| 13:14.27 | cyzie | cydork, CONFIG_MD_RAID1=m what does m means? |
| 13:14.35 | pumpkin0 | cyzie: module |
| 13:14.39 | cydork | cyzie: it's compiled as module. |
| 13:14.45 | liable | VIm_Enforcer: did you get modules or kernel? |
| 13:15.00 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, wait, i can just apt-get the kernel? :D |
| 13:15.01 | cyzie | pumpkin0, cyberkni er.... okay..... but does my kernel support raid 1 then ? |
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| 13:15.07 | VIm_Enforcer | no compiling fun? :) |
| 13:15.11 | cydork | VIm_Enforcer: yep :) |
| 13:15.19 | liable | !gentoosmite VIm_Enforcer |
| 13:15.20 | VIm_Enforcer | debian rulz :))) |
| 13:15.41 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, nonetheless, the modules |
| 13:15.52 | pumpkin0 | cyberkni: yes but you may have problems with a /-raid. You will need a initrd in that case. |
| 13:16.06 | pumpkin0 | cyzie: ^^ |
| 13:16.06 | liable | VIm_Enforcer: yeah, no need to reboot for the modules package, just try alsaconf again |
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| 13:16.26 | Ben` | when I try to view a PHP file on my server it tries to download it, anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 13:16.37 | tralala | eh, dpkg, what do you know! Teh real h4xrz always compile their very own kernels |
| 13:16.43 | cydork | pumpkin0: it's *cydork* |
| 13:16.46 | liable | indeed |
| 13:17.14 | cyzie | pumpkin0, i dont quite understand, in the link given by liable , the first step have to make sure my kernel support raid 1. how can i ensure this? does it have patch or do i need to load special modules? |
| 13:17.21 | zmutte | hey, I have been searching on how to unpack tars with redudant base 64 headers.. but I haven't foudn anything that works. Anyone got a tip? -o in tar didn't work |
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| 13:17.58 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiab |
| 13:18.03 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiab |
| 13:18.20 | liable | zmutte: what are those things? |
| 13:18.22 | tralala | zmutte, where do you get such tars? |
| 13:18.50 | zmutte | tralala from a old dist install, (back up files) |
| 13:18.59 | cydork | cyzie: you dont need anything else. |
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| 13:19.10 | jelly | A true Linux connosieur runs its own hand built kernel with carefully woven .config, a selected number of patches which greatly (0.7%) speed up and destabilize the system. |
| 13:19.30 | liable | cyzie: your kernel already supports raid |
| 13:19.56 | cyzie | liable, so what is the different between the m and y in the config there? |
| 13:20.04 | liable | !smack jelly |
| 13:20.11 | liable | :D |
| 13:20.27 | liable | cyzie: m is a module, y is built into the kernel |
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| 13:20.49 | liable | cyzie: pratically evrything in debian kernels are modules |
| 13:21.00 | cyzie | liable, okay. so do i need to load the module explicitly for mdadm to work ? |
| 13:21.21 | tralala | cydork, no |
| 13:21.40 | jelly | liable: but... but... I MUST have 2.6.18.1-ck11-omg2-lolz4! |
| 13:21.40 | tralala | !punish irssi's tab completion |
| 13:22.04 | liable | jelly: :) |
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| 13:22.07 | cydork | jelly: hehe |
| 13:22.26 | jelly | well, I do have -ck on the desktop actually O:-) |
| 13:22.42 | liable | is that supposed to be a halo?? |
| 13:22.50 | tralala | jelly, you run .18?!!11 Man, that's ancient! |
| 13:22.52 | jelly | liable: yup |
| 13:22.53 | liable | or a bald patch?? |
| 13:23.11 | jelly | liable: I'm developing the latter too! |
| 13:23.34 | liable | jelly: pffft i was bald back before it was cool |
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| 13:23.57 | jelly | liable: I'm currently evaulating thin-hair 0.1alpha, but planning to upgrade soon. |
| 13:24.12 | cyzie | liable, i have enable raid 1 on the bios for my sata drives. from the link u have given, does that link work for my case or that link work for only OS software raid ? |
| 13:24.23 | liable | jelly: no comb on the clippers for the last 15 years for me :/ |
| 13:24.28 | ufk | is there a debian package for ogg123? |
| 13:24.29 | jelly | To baldly go where noone has gone before! |
| 13:24.30 | cydork | !tell cyzie about fakeraid |
| 13:24.33 | cydork | !tell cyzie about raid1howto |
| 13:24.55 | amphi | ufk: yes |
| 13:24.56 | Ben` | anyone here know much about virtual servers, debian, apache and php? |
| 13:24.58 | Braindead | ufk: vorbis-tools. apt-file is your friend |
| 13:25.40 | liable | cyzie: the bios setting doesnt really matter, as the kernel sees two disks |
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| 13:26.10 | liable | cyzie: though you do need the bios raid thing on, if you turn it off, you wont boot |
| 13:26.31 | ufk | thanks |
| 13:26.33 | cyzie | liable, thanks |
| 13:26.37 | cyzie | for the advice |
| 13:26.56 | plb | Will firefox 2 be in debian marked as nonfree or something? |
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| 13:27.11 | liable | plb: no, it will be iceweasel |
| 13:27.18 | Braindead | !tell plb about iceweasel |
| 13:27.32 | liable | plb: where have you been dude! :P |
| 13:28.19 | plb | I know about iceweasel, I was just curious if firefox would in be in the nonfree repo |
| 13:28.19 | Braindead | mars,I suppose |
| 13:28.19 | cydork | liable: obviously not here :P |
| 13:28.20 | liable | cydork: or /. or reddit or dig or.. |
| 13:28.20 | wols_ | it cannot be in the non-free repo |
| 13:28.20 | liable | on the net.. |
| 13:28.20 | plb | wols_: why not? |
| 13:28.21 | wols_ | unless someone runs every debian ffox version back to mozilla.COM |
| 13:28.22 | wols_ | and I doubt that |
| 13:28.43 | wols_ | cause unless one does that, there will be a nastygram from mozilla.COM |
| 13:28.52 | blondie | wols_: no need to shout |
| 13:29.11 | Braindead | do you wanna make baby mozilla cry? |
| 13:29.33 | wols_ | why? is it a they crybabies? |
| 13:29.37 | wols_ | *baby |
| 13:29.46 | plb | so will iceweasel be a fork of 1.5 or will it be updated with each new ff release? |
| 13:29.48 | liable | i was almost going to say a very crass thing, but luckily i refrained |
| 13:29.54 | liable | new |
| 13:30.20 | liable | the beta is in exp if you really wanna try it |
| 13:30.31 | liable | worked ok for me a month or so ago |
| 13:30.38 | plb | weird I don't get why ubuntu came up with all those iceweasel icons when they use the official firefox build |
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| 13:31.04 | pumpkin0 | plb: it´s a fork that will be updated with every ff version. |
| 13:31.09 | liable | plb: whats the iceweasel icons? |
| 13:31.19 | plb | liable: 1 moment let me pull up the link |
| 13:31.28 | liable | i thought ubuntu was using the official ff |
| 13:31.41 | plb | liable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IceWeaselIcon |
| 13:31.49 | plb | liable: they are, that is why I don't get it |
| 13:31.52 | cydork | plb: that's all they can do atm :P |
| 13:32.01 | tralala | plb, why not? Take me for example - I hang in #debian although I only use windowsxp |
| 13:32.13 | plb | tralala: heh |
| 13:32.17 | tralala | ops, what have I done! |
| 13:32.39 | liable | why doesnt that surprise me? |
| 13:32.57 | pourriture | anyone here running sarge on a g3 ibook? |
| 13:33.21 | liable | plb: people in #debian-ppc might if you dont get help in here |
| 13:33.26 | pourriture | I am thinking of buying one, but I may want to use X |
| 13:33.27 | tralala | liable, because I'm the guy who cleans your windows out of all the malware you collect? |
| 13:33.37 | liable | plb: aww, thats a cute icon |
| 13:33.38 | amphi | pourriture: I installed it on one, not mine |
| 13:33.38 | pourriture | liable: good point\ |
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| 13:34.07 | pourriture | I put it on an original g3 imac but vid was a pita |
| 13:34.09 | xentaurus | hola... hay alguien que pueda ayudarme? |
| 13:34.14 | Braindead | !es |
| 13:34.15 | liable | tralala: i am used to your typos, but that was nonsensical! :P |
| 13:34.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:34.22 | amphi | pourriture: X worked fine - some ati card IIRC |
| 13:34.25 | abrotman | pourriture: there are docs at debian.org |
| 13:34.31 | plb | liable: ya the icons are quite nice |
| 13:34.41 | liable | icebadger! |
| 13:34.47 | liable | i want icebadger |
| 13:34.48 | tralala | liable, bwahahaha |
| 13:35.00 | abrotman | http://www.us.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ |
| 13:35.12 | Braindead | badger badger badger... |
| 13:36.00 | tralala | hey, I see now why ubuntu is so popular - it has cool icons! I'm going to switch to it first thing in the morning! |
| 13:36.01 | plb | those icons are actually a lot better than any of the FF ones I've seen |
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| 13:36.23 | Braindead | I want icebuffalo! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo |
| 13:36.35 | liable | plb: the first one is nice |
| 13:36.42 | pourriture | abrotman: the docs indicate that it works ... but I like to gauge the "suffering factor" from a real live user |
| 13:36.51 | plb | I really don't see why ubuntu is so popular |
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| 13:37.06 | liable | the one humping is cute too :P |
| 13:37.07 | Braindead | artwork with naked chicks? |
| 13:37.10 | plb | lol |
| 13:37.15 | Braindead | (and a metrosexual guy) |
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| 13:37.17 | pourriture | plb ... due to the great package delivery system ;) |
| 13:37.18 | cyzie | liable, in my /etc/fstab i dont see /home entry in it. because during partition, everything i put under / . so now let say if i need to move my /home into another hdd, so i just add an entry /home point to the new hdd? |
| 13:37.25 | amphi | pourriture: sarge installed on the ibook pretty painlessly as I recall |
| 13:37.28 | plb | pourriture: oh right...you mean they came up with? |
| 13:37.30 | cydork | Braindead: naked chicks ?? where? |
| 13:37.31 | cydork | :P |
| 13:37.32 | liable | cyzie: yep |
| 13:37.58 | pourriture | thanks amphi I am going to give it a run |
| 13:38.21 | maxxle | I've problems with my evolution. If i get a *.pdf as attachment to a mail it tells me that it opens this file with mplayer. Where can i tweak this behaviour? (using XFCE) |
| 13:38.38 | amphi | pourriture: linux-laptop.net had useful info |
| 13:39.01 | liable | maxxle: doesnt evo have a file association thing in the menu somewhere? |
| 13:39.14 | amphi | pourriture: there's a nice kernel option that lets you use the sleep light as a hd access indicator |
| 13:39.21 | pourriture | amphi: all that is left is more ram and wait for delivery :) |
| 13:39.22 | maxxle | liable: Nothing found there |
| 13:39.29 | Braindead | cydork: the triangle with 2 girls+guy they had in the artwork |
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| 13:39.53 | liable | maxxle: hrm, i woulda thought it would, even TB does and its nowhere near as bloated as evo |
| 13:39.56 | pourriture | amphi: the hd indicator is a cool trick .. I will remember that one |
| 13:40.17 | luge | maybe mplayer 1.0rc1 has a 'feature' that _can_ play pdf files? |
| 13:40.32 | liable | play a pdf?? |
| 13:40.44 | Braindead | cydork: http://img62.exs.cx/img62/4553/screenshot4.png here you go |
| 13:40.45 | maxxle | luge: play a pdf ... show a pps? :) Don't think so |
| 13:41.02 | luge | are you questioning _evolution_ ?? :) |
| 13:41.11 | pourriture | liable: as in play one frame :) |
| 13:41.11 | liable | luge: you must be mistaken my luge :) |
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| 13:41.46 | ufk | 10.0.0.0/8 means... ? 10.0.0.0-10.0.0.255 or 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 ? |
| 13:41.52 | Braindead | ufk: ipcalc. |
| 13:41.56 | pourriture | 2nd |
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| 13:42.06 | liable | whos on 3rd? |
| 13:42.14 | ufk | thanks |
| 13:42.14 | maxxle | Hm.... I will check nautilus from Gnome ... stay tuned |
| 13:42.28 | pourriture | hu is on third ... his grandfather was chinese |
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| 13:42.53 | uski | hi, I am trying to setup a terminal on serial port. I can't find how I can change the parity and the number of bits, any idea ? |
| 13:43.12 | maxxle | Even nautilus opens pps in ooimpress. So it must be something evolution specific. |
| 13:43.14 | liable | yikes. wheres karsten when you need him |
| 13:43.22 | abrotman | pourriture: i can tlel you the mac mini g4 works well :) |
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| 13:43.48 | pourriture | abrotman: that is another purchase I want to make |
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| 13:44.00 | pourriture | but I would rather have a lappy |
| 13:44.19 | uski | lol pourriture sounds like a strange nickname when read in french :)) |
| 13:44.23 | liable | i wouldnt mind a mini if the came out with two disks for a raid, be a nice little home server |
| 13:44.30 | pourriture | I am intrigued by the xbox laptop too ... but I don't have the tools and skills necessary for that |
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| 13:44.52 | abrotman | pourriture: i got it to attach to the tele :) |
| 13:45.22 | liable | the mac? |
| 13:45.26 | pourriture | uski: http://www.cru-barrejats.com/fr/botrytis.htm |
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| 13:46.35 | tralala | I have a mac too - 00:11:6b:33:c8:30 |
| 13:46.45 | uski | pourriture, interesting :) |
| 13:46.47 | liable | *groan* |
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| 13:47.45 | pourriture | abrotman: http://www.benheck.com/Games/Xbox360/x360_page_1.htm |
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| 13:49.02 | cyzie | liable, have u done mdadm before? |
| 13:49.04 | Charminthemoose | in the apache httpd.conf file the virtual hosts log file is at logs/domainlogshere.but where is logs/? |
| 13:49.53 | liable | cyzie: only from the installer, and it hasnt broken on me yet, so i havent had to fuck with it, apart from playing with rebuilding |
| 13:50.26 | nevele | can i add one unstable package to a system with only stable entries in the sources list? i only need imagemagick from unstable and i really dont want to add non stable sources.. |
| 13:50.37 | cyzie | liable, i have no confident doing this myself. |
| 13:50.57 | tralala | nevele, /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:51.12 | nevele | thanks |
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| 13:52.06 | liable | cyzie: yah, it could imagine its a bit daunting, but as long as you have that one disk to start with, and cp to the empty one, then boot from that and build the array, i dont think you have much chance of loosing data |
| 13:52.41 | liable | cyzie: as soon as you can boot from the first part of the array, you should be good to go |
| 13:53.06 | luge | charmin* check /var/log |
| 13:53.15 | Ireul | hi |
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| 13:53.28 | Ireul | is there a way to make AMD760 agp with kernel 2.6.18???? |
| 13:53.48 | liable | ufk: havent asked in #debian-boot about your problem? |
| 13:56.07 | nevele | i installing packages from unstable sure to break your system? |
| 13:56.17 | nevele | (im really more of a gentoo guy...) |
| 13:56.29 | liable | maybe, maybe not |
| 13:56.47 | wols_ | nevele: mixing it with stable will give you a mongrel |
| 13:56.51 | wols_ | so don't do that |
| 13:57.13 | wols_ | and yes, if you do run unstable, it will break sooner or later once in a while |
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| 13:57.44 | nevele | is there a way to update world so to speak? |
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| 13:57.58 | liable | give you a mongrel? a hard on ?? |
| 13:58.13 | liable | thats slang for stiffy here :) |
| 13:58.15 | nevele | rebuild everything thats installed from the sources.list |
| 13:58.20 | tralala | nevele, man apt-get; man aptitude |
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| 13:58.26 | Charminthemoose | in the apache httpd.conf file the virtual hosts log file is at logs/domainlogshere.but where is logs/? |
| 13:58.32 | nevele | yea, been looking at that.. |
| 13:58.37 | tralala | REBUILD@! |
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| 14:02.08 | Niklas- | Anyone know where to find the esp4 and ah4 in make menuconfig? |
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| 14:02.43 | amphi | Niklas-: did you try searching with / ? |
| 14:02.47 | liable | Niklas-: hit / and type your search |
| 14:02.52 | Niklas- | oh nice |
| 14:02.56 | Niklas- | hmm |
| 14:03.03 | Niklas- | when i hit / it ask me if i want to save and quits :o |
| 14:03.15 | Niklas- | oh dont use numpad / :p |
| 14:04.30 | luge | isn't it on main page 'security' |
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| 14:07.13 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 14:07.14 | dpkg | -dmwaters- {global notice} Hi all! One of our staffer used brackets in a kline, and this caused the servers to crash. We're working on an immediate fix for this problem, and hopefully will have something as soon as possible. I'm very sorry for the interuptions that this has caused, and thank you all for your patience. |
| 14:07.47 | cyzie | liable, i got error as follow |
| 14:07.52 | cyzie | # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing |
| 14:07.52 | cyzie | mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory |
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| 14:08.08 | cyzie | im following the link u have given. what was the error means ? |
| 14:08.22 | fasta | !u |
| 14:08.22 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 14:09.24 | liable | cyzie: red the next bit |
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| 14:09.36 | liable | read |
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| 14:09.54 | cyzie | yes, but how much mknod do i need to enter? |
| 14:10.14 | liable | cyzie: exactly like it says, for the md0 one |
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| 14:10.32 | cyzie | noted |
| 14:10.41 | Bhavesh | How do I add static route on debian stable? |
| 14:10.50 | h3sp4wn | nevele: apt-build can do what you want I think |
| 14:11.01 | nevele | Nothing in the man page rings any bells.. anyone have any idea how to resolve this dependency error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/w5q2E198.html |
| 14:11.18 | stew | Bhavesh: add it from an "up" line in /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) |
| 14:11.49 | sepski | Bhavesh, 1timeonly: route add permanenet: put it into the interfaces file using a up statement, man interfaces for details |
| 14:12.10 | Bhavesh | stew: thank you.. up route add -net xx.xx.xx.0/255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.100 |
| 14:12.20 | stew | Bhavesh: yup |
| 14:12.27 | cyzie | liable, can i paste to u in PM ? |
| 14:12.42 | liable | cyzie: sure |
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| 14:12.45 | nevele | anyone have any ideas? |
| 14:12.47 | cyzie | liable, thanks |
| 14:12.54 | tralala | leet guys use iproute |
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| 14:13.47 | liable | cyzie: you need to be registered to /msg me though |
| 14:13.57 | cyzie | :( |
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| 14:14.17 | liable | cyzie: /j #liable |
| 14:14.33 | cyzie | thanks liable. i lost my disk so i forget my password to the nickserv |
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| 14:15.07 | Bhavesh | sepski: thank you for your help |
| 14:15.36 | nevele | anyone? i just need to get imagemagick fixed and then i can go back to coding.... just lost on the way debian does this stuff... |
| 14:16.23 | pumpkin0 | nevele: stable/unstable/testing ? |
| 14:16.32 | nevele | stable |
| 14:16.33 | tralala | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.10 | nevele | not that i see, but im not entirely sure i understand backports.. is that like layman portage for gentoo? |
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| 14:17.13 | tralala | !simple sid backport |
| 14:17.13 | dpkg | simple sid backport is, like, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
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| 14:17.36 | pumpkin0 | nevele: run "apt-get update". And poste your sources.list. |
| 14:17.39 | nevele | http://rafb.net/paste/results/w5q2E198.html |
| 14:17.51 | nevele | this is the error im dealing with |
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| 14:18.11 | nevele | apt-get update says no packages need updating |
| 14:18.25 | nevele | or, upgrade i man |
| 14:18.31 | nevele | mean |
| 14:18.41 | pumpkin0 | nevele: "apt-get update". upgrade is something different. |
| 14:18.55 | nevele | yea, i updated first |
| 14:19.11 | pumpkin0 | nevele: OK, then it´s your sources.list file. |
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| 14:19.35 | nevele | i just need more sources..? thats all? |
| 14:19.55 | pumpkin0 | nevele: you need 1 correct stable source. |
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| 14:20.52 | diilbertAtWork | When is etch supposed to be released ? |
| 14:20.58 | Ronin | !wwer |
| 14:20.59 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/09/msg00020.html, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/10/msg00009.html |
| 14:21.30 | Ronin | diilbertAtWork: decemberish is the last i heard |
| 14:21.44 | diilbertAtWork | Ronin: Thanks :p |
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| 14:26.38 | nevele | this is my sources.list file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Sk7gDC41.html |
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| 14:27.02 | nevele | look sound? |
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| 14:28.54 | pumpkin0 | nevele: yes, more or less. please run "apt-cache showpkg imagemagick". |
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| 14:29.38 | nevele | k |
| 14:29.58 | pumpkin0 | nevele: and post the outputs somewhere. |
| 14:30.06 | nevele | thanks, will do. |
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| 14:31.47 | nevele | http://rafb.net/paste/results/mjYqhl71.html |
| 14:31.51 | r121 | I just upgraded to the latest packages in Etch (quite a few were upgraded) last night, and now I've got an acute case of disappearing text. The KDM login screen text and menu text turn invisible randomly, as does some text in Firefox. Anyone know what might be going on? |
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| 14:33.46 | pumpkin0 | nevele: there did the 7.X version come from ? Anyway: "apt-get install imagemagick =6:6.0.6.2-2.7" |
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| 14:35.32 | r121 | could this disappearing text be caused by upgrading Xorg from 7.0 to 7.1? |
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| 14:37.04 | nevele | pumpkin0: E: Couldn't find package |
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| 14:37.36 | wols_ | !fonts |
| 14:37.37 | dpkg | i guess fonts is check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
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| 14:38.04 | GillaGal | There use to be a website that would do a lookup on an IP and tell you what domains were hosted on it, anyone recall the URL? |
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| 14:38.39 | abrotman | arin.net ? |
| 14:38.44 | abrotman | netcraft.net ? |
| 14:38.46 | GillaGal | heh no |
| 14:38.56 | GillaGal | I found it on netcraft once... |
| 14:39.02 | GillaGal | don't recall the URL. |
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| 14:40.18 | abrotman | any name server should be able to do that |
| 14:40.28 | pumpkin0 | nevele: according to your apt-cache that is not possible. |
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| 14:40.59 | abrotman | !moo |
| 14:41.00 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 14:41.20 | mike-e | I just upgraded from sarge to etch, how can i totally get rid of xf886 |
| 14:41.30 | mike-e | I just upgraded from sarge to etch, how can i totally get rid of xfree86 |
| 14:41.40 | GillaGal | abrotman: Not a lookup.... it reports ALL domains hosted under ONE IP. |
| 14:41.54 | abrotman | mike-e: remove xlibs |
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| 14:42.17 | mike-e | how? |
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| 14:42.49 | abrotman | man apt-get |
| 14:42.52 | r121 | I'm not sure my problem is related to fonts. The text will display for a while usually, until a window overlaps it or something, then when you remove the window some text in Firefox disappears, but it comes back if you select it or just scroll down then up again |
| 14:43.06 | abrotman | GillaGal: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=find+all+domains+on+a+single+IP&btnG=Google+Search |
| 14:43.10 | mike-e | is that the package name, xlibs? |
| 14:43.23 | stew | mike-e: "apt-get install xorg" will get rid of xfree86 completely |
| 14:43.39 | mike-e | oh i figured doing a dist upgrade from sarge to etch would cover that |
| 14:43.40 | mike-e | thanks stew |
| 14:43.56 | stew | mike-e: "apt-get dist-upgrade" would also get rid of xfree86 completely |
| 14:43.57 | mike-e | and it did. |
| 14:44.14 | enouf | GillaGal: maybe http://www.dnsstuff.com/ |
| 14:44.14 | abrotman | doh .. /me misread |
| 14:44.16 | mike-e | when i do pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf it has all sorts of references to Xfree86 |
| 14:44.36 | stew | mike-e: yes, your config was transferred from one to the other |
| 14:45.10 | nevele | pumpkin0: is there a way to rebuild the cache? |
| 14:45.12 | mike-e | and for some reason with the past 2 installs of debian, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't give me the option to select monitor and/or depth/resolution |
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| 14:45.21 | GillaGal | abrotman: yeah.. I saw that one from digg, it's dead tho. |
| 14:45.24 | mike-e | it's frustrating. |
| 14:45.28 | stew | mike-e: its being detected automatically for you |
| 14:45.31 | abrotman | GillaGal: is that what you were looking for ? |
| 14:45.40 | mike-e | well it's detecting it wrong on 2 different machines |
| 14:45.54 | stew | mike-e: edit the config by hand then |
| 14:46.03 | enouf | mike-e: try the -plow option maybe .. not sure |
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| 14:46.12 | stew | enouf: -plow doesn't do anything |
| 14:46.21 | mike-e | why did they decide to do that? |
| 14:46.22 | enouf | stew : it figures |
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| 14:46.24 | mike-e | it's a neusense |
| 14:46.36 | abrotman | wow |
| 14:46.44 | stew | mike-e: how do you know that the monitor isn't being detected correctly? |
| 14:46.46 | dererk[w] | which was the command to check the expirancy of a system account? |
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| 14:47.17 | mike-e | because this laptop does more than 800x600 and my monitor/card at home does more than 1024x768, it's |
| 14:47.19 | pumpkin0 | nevele: "apt-get clean; apt-get update" will rebuild most idexes and remove old downloaded packages... |
| 14:47.27 | GillaGal | abrotman nope... there is another one I used. |
| 14:47.33 | mike-e | because this laptop does more than 800x600 and my monitor/card at home does more than 1024x768, it's "auto configuration" is generating the conf so i can't do larger than that |
| 14:47.42 | enouf | mike-e: another possible helper util is hwinfo .. install it and then hwinfo --monitor - but you may have video/fb modules issues |
| 14:47.44 | nevele | thanks, try that... |
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| 14:47.49 | abrotman | GillaGal: maybe ask #dns |
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| 14:48.45 | stew | mike-e: which driver are you using? |
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| 14:49.05 | mike-e | this is using the ati |
| 14:49.14 | mike-e | because it's indeed an ati card |
| 14:49.22 | mike-e | the box at home is using nv because it's a gforce |
| 14:49.22 | GillaGal | ok thanks |
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| 14:49.29 | stew | mike-e: put your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log into a pastebin |
| 14:49.34 | stew | mike-e: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:50.19 | mike-e | i was able to correct the issues by hand editing xorg.conf so i'm fairly certain it's not a driver issue |
| 14:50.36 | dererk[w] | Usermod, find ya |
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| 14:50.53 | stew | mike-e: i was only asking which driver to see if you were using a free driver or a non-free driver |
| 14:50.59 | mike-e | o ok |
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| 14:51.54 | x_link | Hi everybody ! |
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| 14:52.33 | x_link | I installed Debian yesterday and the default environment was GNOME, so I changed it to KDE. But with KDE I couldn't open any programs at all. |
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| 14:52.53 | Ronin | x_link: why not? |
| 14:53.03 | x_link | I don't remember the error message, but it was just a small message. Something like "programname" can't open |
| 14:53.34 | x_link | I will try one more time. |
| 14:53.57 | x_link | I will switch to Debian now so that I can show you the message |
| 14:53.58 | x_link | brb |
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| 14:54.59 | wintix_ | can i tell make-kpkg to spawn more processes? |
| 14:55.59 | wintix | e.g. to compile the kernel on a multi processor system. |
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| 14:56.58 | navaladi | hi frnds..I have "Intel P4 D101 Ggc " "Supports 64 bit Computing"..Now i have Debian 3.1 sarge..How can i Really IDENTIFY , Does my PC is 64 bit or 32 bit..Also i would like to know does my Mother board 64 bit or not.. |
| 14:57.08 | cahoot | wintix: man page see CONCURRENCY_LEVEL |
| 14:58.00 | liable | kpkg is a prick for that |
| 14:58.12 | wintix | cahoot: thx. |
| 14:58.20 | cahoot | liable: ? |
| 14:59.13 | liable | cahoot: it compiles kernels slow even though i have set that flag, i havent managed to get it to work properly |
| 14:59.14 | peppet | cahoot: man what? |
| 14:59.32 | liable | kpkg |
| 14:59.39 | wintix | peppet: make-kpkg |
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| 15:00.15 | liable | and setting make flags kpkg seems to ignore too |
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| 15:00.24 | cahoot | liable: I see - I took for grantedit kept is promise |
| 15:00.34 | cahoot | doh |
| 15:00.49 | liable | cahoot: i am prolly doing it wrong, but i havent had any luck with it |
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| 15:01.09 | sepski | navaladi, cat /proc/cpuinfo what is your flags: line |
| 15:01.36 | luge | navaladi - check your invoice |
| 15:01.37 | wintix | cahoot: how do i use the concurrency level? make-kpkg doesn't like the -j option. |
| 15:01.42 | liable | cahoot: no difference between a pm 1.5 and a core duo 2.6 in compile time :/ whereas compiling other big things is a huge difference |
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| 15:02.26 | ttz | hi there ! |
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| 15:03.15 | cahoot | wintix: I'd try CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=# make-kpkg ... |
| 15:03.16 | cydork | wintix: that's the env variable |
| 15:03.19 | ttz | I have two question regarding NetFilter's ROUTE target... does anyone know a little about it ? |
| 15:04.12 | wintix | oh. i should have slept a bit longer, i think ;). thanks, cydork, cahoot-. |
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| 15:05.27 | navaladi | sepski:..here is my that line..."fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm" |
| 15:06.06 | navaladi | luge:hi i don't get 'invoice' |
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| 15:07.22 | Feax | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.48 | luge | my way of saying how do you not know what you bought? |
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| 15:10.32 | liable | cahoot: have you used that flag before and found it quicker? |
| 15:11.07 | deadcat | how do i make a url/link in wiki? |
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| 15:11.16 | luge | navaladi - since you have cat /proc/cpuinfo already what is the model name |
| 15:11.52 | cahoot | liable: no - used to use -j2 earlier - don't bother now |
| 15:12.14 | wols_ | !tell ttz about ask |
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| 15:12.55 | liable | cahoot: k |
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| 15:14.18 | ttz | eheh, thanks wols_ :-) |
| 15:14.32 | wintix | what can i do against this error message? dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.18.1 not in control info |
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| 15:15.26 | navaladi | luge, u mean processor model?...I have P4 |
| 15:15.48 | navaladi | sepski, can u got anything from that line? |
| 15:15.49 | salimfadhley | How do I make apt tell me which version of a partiicular package is installed? |
| 15:15.57 | salimfadhley | Is there a CLI tool for querying apt? |
| 15:16.02 | ttz | Actually, I know one can't check the incoming interface in the POSTROUTING hook, but the ROUTE target allows to set the incoming interface with "--iif". If I use "-j ROUTE --iif eth0" at the beginning of the POSTROUTING hook of the mangle table, can I use "-i" after this ? |
| 15:16.03 | azeem | salimfadhley: apt-cache |
| 15:16.07 | salimfadhley | thanks |
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| 15:16.19 | eyeris | I just installed Etch B3 from the nightly netinst images. It installed linux-image-2.6.17-2-686 (which was correct). The cpu is a dual-core Pentium D. There is a linux-image-2.6.16-2-686-smp package, but no -smp package for 2.6.17. However, the installed 2.6.17 kernel shows SMP in `uname -a`. Have the newer kernel packages just dropped the -smp variants? |
| 15:16.33 | azeem | salimfadhley: your specific question is better answered by dpkg -l <package> or dpkg -s <package>, though |
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| 15:16.57 | salimfadhley | thanks |
| 15:17.49 | ttz | Another question about the ROUTE target. I seem to recal the earlier versions of the patch were overriding the whole routing table, including remaining hooks, and so... Have this nasty behaviour changed ? |
| 15:17.55 | salimfadhley | thanks! |
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| 15:18.54 | navaladi | luge, ? |
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| 15:19.31 | x_link | Hi |
| 15:19.44 | x_link | How do I change the keyboard layout to a swedish one |
| 15:19.58 | x_link | I cant find the settings.. |
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| 15:20.58 | cahoot | x_link: still on kde? then control center |
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| 15:21.33 | x_link | cahoot: yes KDE |
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| 15:21.58 | sepski | navaladi, no. whats the model name line |
| 15:21.59 | x_link | cahoot: Im in Control Center, Keyboard. But there is nothing I can change |
| 15:22.20 | x_link | now I found it |
| 15:22.46 | x_link | damn it |
| 15:22.56 | x_link | my KDE always gets stuck |
| 15:23.18 | cydork | eyeris: yep, no more smp kernels. |
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| 15:23.55 | cahoot | cydork: aren't all smp? |
| 15:24.03 | luge | and what is the "address sizes" |
| 15:24.19 | x_link | I used Debian with KDE for like a week ago. And it didn't look like this. |
| 15:24.36 | x_link | My whole system is in swedish, I just want the keyboard layout in swedish |
| 15:25.04 | cydork | cahoot: yep, |
| 15:25.57 | sepski | x_link, set counter/region-language to what you want system to be, and keyboard layout to sweedish |
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| 15:26.33 | navaladi | sepski - model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz |
| 15:26.43 | x_link | sepski: OKey. |
| 15:27.06 | navaladi | sepski - Also the cover of the processor has written that "Supports 64 bit computting" |
| 15:27.33 | binary_dreamer | hi. i am using sarge and i upgraded kde to 3.5. now i am looking for a way to install ktorrent. could someone help me please? |
| 15:27.40 | navaladi | sepski - so is my pc 64 bit?..do i ve to install 64 bit version? |
| 15:27.50 | x_link | When I used Debian last week ( before it "crashed" ) then the konsole had on --> Options --> Scheme --> Transparent Konsole. I don't have that now. |
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| 15:28.06 | x_link | Have KDE or Debian done any upgrade or anything like that, changed anything ? |
| 15:28.15 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: "upgraded kde to 3.5"? |
| 15:28.15 | x_link | brb |
| 15:28.31 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, yes, backports |
| 15:28.46 | luge | 'computting' is that a knock off |
| 15:28.58 | enveezee | !info ktorrent sarge |
| 15:29.11 | binary_dreamer | !info ktorrent sarge |
| 15:29.11 | enveezee | !info ktorrent |
| 15:29.17 | dpkg | ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2.0.2+dfsg1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1480 kB, Installed size: 4776 kB |
| 15:29.33 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: ktorrent isnt in sarge |
| 15:30.20 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, it is not in the official repositories. how about any backports. in the backport i am using it is not. |
| 15:30.34 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: how about just upgrading to etch ffs |
| 15:30.49 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: instead of annoying yourself using an old frozen distro when you want new stuff |
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| 15:30.56 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, no thanks. |
| 15:31.04 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: why not? |
| 15:31.08 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, there might be a way around |
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| 15:31.40 | amphi | binary_dreamer: use rtorrent? ;) |
| 15:32.19 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: why would you sit around trying to find ways to make your old frozen distro like a newer one instead of just upgrading and being able to get whatever you want |
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| 15:32.31 | binary_dreamer | amphi, amphi it is not the same is it? i need something graphical |
| 15:32.48 | amphi | binary_dreamer: it's ncurses - it seems to work well |
| 15:33.13 | luge | x-link - vikings with linux? someone warn the french |
| 15:33.16 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, because i do not have the quality of time to upgrade to another distro. |
| 15:33.20 | sepski | navaladi, i dont know, i'd assume there was a flag info for it, but it might be that it only shows when you actualy are running a 64bit cpu. |
| 15:33.47 | luge | what is the address sizes in cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:33.50 | enveezee | binary_dreamer: it would not have taken much longer if any longer than it took you to force in all those damn KDE backports just to get stuck again |
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| 15:34.15 | enveezee | KDE is probably 97% of your installed package size |
| 15:34.38 | enveezee | upgrading the other 3% to avoid headache seems to make sense to me |
| 15:34.55 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, ok, thanks a lot for your interest in the subject. but as i said, i do not want to upgrade. now either i have to find a way around the problem , or nothing. |
| 15:35.12 | enveezee | sometime in the future you are gonna be here again in this situation.. you dont fit the profile of a user who uses a debian stable branch.. you like eye candy and new software |
| 15:35.18 | enveezee | dont beat yourself up |
| 15:35.38 | enveezee | using a frozen tree for 2-3 years isnt what you want |
| 15:35.43 | binary_dreamer | enveezee, ok. i will have that in mind. thanks |
| 15:36.05 | wols_ | binary_dreamer: you've been here yesterday with the same problem and didn't get an answer. maybe there isn't one? |
| 15:36.11 | amphi | binary_dreamer: or if you _must_ have an X prog, and don't mind massive memory consumption, there's azureus |
| 15:36.31 | enveezee | there is one, in fact there are 3.. use something else, backport it yourself, or upgrade to etch |
| 15:36.33 | binary_dreamer | wols_, yesterday i have been here with the question on how to upgrade kde! |
| 15:36.43 | binary_dreamer | ok thanks |
| 15:36.46 | binary_dreamer | i will upgrade |
| 15:36.59 | wols_ | binary_dreamer: you are running kernel 2.4? |
| 15:37.06 | binary_dreamer | 2.6 |
| 15:37.14 | cydork | navaladi: it has lm so it should be x86-64 |
| 15:37.15 | wols_ | any yesterday you already had upgraded to kde from backports |
| 15:37.17 | enveezee | I upgraded, (for all the new graphical software) and I dont even use anything more than a terminal emulator and screen most of the time |
| 15:37.22 | wols_ | and it "corrupted your installation" |
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| 15:38.03 | binary_dreamer | not really. it was my fault. what do want to ask? |
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| 15:38.19 | enveezee | I never did find out why apt-listbugs isnt in testing |
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| 15:38.36 | navaladi | cydork:oh..command "uname -m" gives i686 so it means 32 bit...does that means OS arch. or hardware arch..? |
| 15:38.43 | enveezee | I dont see wtf we need it in stable, but its damn useful in testing/unstable |
| 15:38.51 | enveezee | someone got shit ass backwards |
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| 15:39.26 | navaladi | cydork: so can i install 64bit version of linux? |
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| 15:41.04 | cydork | navaladi: i guess so .. |
| 15:42.09 | navaladi | cydork:guess what...os is 32 bit?or hardware is 32 bit...but i m running Debian 3.1 sarge...32bit |
| 15:42.59 | cydork | navaladi: i mean you can install 64 bit os.. |
| 15:43.29 | luge | do you know why you want 64 bit? |
| 15:45.25 | Feax | which FTP client is the best can I use ? |
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| 15:46.26 | wols_ | !best |
| 15:46.27 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 15:47.13 | Bhavesh | !best tennis |
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| 15:47.21 | Bhavesh | ? :) |
| 15:47.50 | Ronin | best beer? |
| 15:47.55 | Feax | Which FTP client can I use ? |
| 15:48.06 | wols_ | apt-cache search ftp |
| 15:48.08 | petemc | gftp |
| 15:48.10 | wols_ | take your pick |
| 15:48.16 | Ronin | Feax: the one you like, ive used gftp, a cmd line all depends |
| 15:48.19 | qwertyCZ | ronin: gambrinus 10 degrees |
| 15:48.36 | qwertyCZ | mc |
| 15:49.12 | Feax | muh ? How do I extract .tar.bz2 ? why tar zxvf wont work ? |
| 15:49.21 | petemc | tar xjvf |
| 15:49.23 | petemc | man tar |
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| 15:50.41 | Feax | petemc: don't work : No file or rep of this type, Child returned status 2 |
| 15:51.22 | aubergine | Hi i text File has many lines like "USER - Message" . How can i create a new textfile without these lines? |
| 15:51.51 | petemc | Feax: either the file isnt a bzipped tar file, or you're doing something wrong |
| 15:51.58 | SlayerXP | aubergine: man grep |
| 15:51.59 | Feax | petemc: it is |
| 15:52.10 | petemc | Feax: file file.tar.bz2 |
| 15:52.23 | aubergine | SlayerXP: Read what it wrote please |
| 15:52.24 | Feax | yes petemc |
| 15:52.30 | SlayerXP | Feax: it's 'j' for bzip2, not 'z' |
| 15:52.41 | SlayerXP | aubergine: right back atcha |
| 15:52.49 | Feax | SlayerXP: xjvf |
| 15:53.28 | SlayerXP | aubergine: specifically, you'll be interested in what the 'v' option does. |
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| 15:54.49 | aubergine | SlayerXP: Ok cool |
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| 15:55.26 | peterrooney | aubergine: grep -v UNWANTED_PATTERN |
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| 15:59.31 | lancel00t | hi |
| 16:00.05 | lancel00t | i am looking for more resources on programming with the free-java-sdk. have googled around a bit and not found much. |
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| 16:02.08 | n00b` | #flood |
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| 16:11.38 | Feax | When I launch KDE with KDM, the writes are too small, but when I launch with startx that is good, how can I solve this problem ? |
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| 16:24.10 | eyeris | I just installed Etch B3 from the nightly netinst images. It installed linux-image-2.6.17-2-686 (which was correct). The cpu is a dual-core Pentium D. There is a linux-image-2.6.16-2-686-smp package, but no -smp package for 2.6.17. However, the installed 2.6.17 kernel shows SMP in `uname -a`. Have the newer kernel packages just dropped the -smp variants? |
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| 16:25.39 | cahoot | eyeris: didn't you already get an answer to that an hour ago? |
| 16:26.15 | cahoot | <cydork> eyeris: yep, no more smp kernels. |
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| 16:28.09 | eyeris | oh, I missed that |
| 16:28.10 | eyeris | sorry |
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| 16:33.16 | d0uglas | how can i fire up the radeonfb module without having to reboot with it in /etc/modules? |
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| 16:33.40 | VIm_Enforcer | back |
| 16:33.45 | VIm_Enforcer | liable, the sound works nice |
| 16:33.51 | VIm_Enforcer | ...for root only |
| 16:34.03 | VIm_Enforcer | it doesn't work for regular users |
| 16:34.30 | d0uglas | VIm_Enforcer: are the users in the audio group? |
| 16:34.41 | VIm_Enforcer | um |
| 16:34.44 | VIm_Enforcer | no :) |
| 16:34.51 | VIm_Enforcer | i should add myself :) |
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| 16:35.18 | d0uglas | okay mr. happy face |
| 16:35.26 | eyeris | d0uglas "modprobe radeonfb" |
| 16:35.31 | d0uglas | thanks eyeris |
| 16:35.37 | eyeris | run that as root |
| 16:35.57 | d0uglas | ahh, big resolution |
| 16:36.01 | d0uglas | so luxorious |
| 16:36.11 | eyeris | fo shizzle |
| 16:36.43 | VIm_Enforcer | d0uglas, i'm an optimist :) |
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| 16:38.14 | VIm_Enforcer | alias emacs="echo 'use vim you ass!!!'; vim" |
| 16:38.34 | d0uglas | woah you can do that? nice |
| 16:38.45 | VIm_Enforcer | d0uglas, do what |
| 16:39.00 | d0uglas | give yourself little messages before starting programs |
| 16:39.09 | d0uglas | i wasn't being sarcastic, yo |
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| 16:39.13 | Shadowcat | emacs rules! |
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| 16:39.21 | VIm_Enforcer | emacs sucks! |
| 16:39.34 | VIm_Enforcer | d0uglas, um, i don't even have emacs installed, so :) |
| 16:40.08 | VIm_Enforcer | apt-get remove emacs |
| 16:40.42 | Shadowcat | apt-get install emacs |
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| 16:41.19 | zamuro | apt-get install -y nano |
| 16:41.19 | Shadowcat | actually |
| 16:41.24 | zamuro | End of Discussion xD |
| 16:41.26 | Shadowcat | to be more precise, it's apt-get install emacs21 |
| 16:41.33 | Shadowcat | nano is ok |
| 16:41.36 | Shadowcat | vim is horrible |
| 16:41.56 | VIm_Enforcer | alias "apt-get install emacs21"="echo 'Configuring package...'; rm -rf /" |
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| 16:42.10 | Pupeno_ | Hello. |
| 16:42.10 | zamuro | Damn... I forgot how awful is to install mysql from sources :S |
| 16:42.10 | tralala | !vimsmite Shadowcat |
| 16:42.27 | Shadowcat | VIm_Enforcer: don't make me force you to use Windows |
| 16:42.28 | VIm_Enforcer | tralala, are you in the vim team? |
| 16:42.32 | VIm_Enforcer | Shadowcat, no need |
| 16:42.36 | VIm_Enforcer | i do already |
| 16:42.38 | Shadowcat | WinME then |
| 16:42.39 | Pupeno_ | Is there some program to messure the bandwidth being consumed by one ip (messure it on the router, which is a Debian doing masquerading). |
| 16:42.43 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 16:42.46 | VIm_Enforcer | for, um, backwards compatibility |
| 16:42.47 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 16:42.51 | tralala | VIm_Enforcer, sure |
| 16:42.58 | VIm_Enforcer | tralala, :D |
| 16:43.07 | iter | Pupeno_: mrtg |
| 16:43.34 | Pupeno_ | iter: Thanks. |
| 16:43.48 | iter | sho |
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| 16:44.21 | VIm_Enforcer | vim is the biggest roxors :) |
| 16:44.45 | Shadowcat | ok umm let's see |
| 16:44.50 | Shadowcat | vim < * |
| 16:44.58 | Pupeno_ | mrtg is a daemon, right ? |
| 16:45.04 | Shadowcat | * > WinME > vim |
| 16:45.45 | VIm_Enforcer | Shadowcat, try [[ vim > * ]]; echo $? |
| 16:45.48 | VIm_Enforcer | 0 |
| 16:45.50 | Pupeno_ | I remember a program that run and messured the bandwidth while running, I only need to mesure it now. I remember one with a ncurser (or similar) interface. Any ideas ? |
| 16:45.52 | VIm_Enforcer | >:) |
| 16:46.48 | Shadowcat | nah better idea |
| 16:47.06 | Shadowcat | dd if=/dev/urandom of=VIm_Enforcer |
| 16:47.06 | d0uglas | Pupeno_: bing |
| 16:47.12 | d0uglas | bing is frickin badass |
| 16:47.14 | Shadowcat | aptitude purge vim |
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| 16:47.20 | DerJamster | Pupeno_: iftop |
| 16:47.20 | tralala | vim is the tool of choice for people who _can_ type |
| 16:47.21 | d0uglas | wildly inaccurate but badass nonetheless |
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| 16:47.27 | iter | Pupeno_: you can use bmon |
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| 16:47.37 | Shadowcat | vim is the tool for admins who refuse to get into the 90s |
| 16:47.43 | Shadowcat | or even the new millenium |
| 16:47.47 | iter | Shadowcat: as opposed to what |
| 16:47.55 | d0uglas | Pupeno_: ohh your own bandwidth... bing measures bandwidth between two remote hops |
| 16:47.55 | iter | emacs? haha |
| 16:47.59 | VIm_Enforcer | LOL |
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| 16:48.03 | Shadowcat | iter: no, emacs has its own quirks |
| 16:48.03 | VIm_Enforcer | emacs is suxor |
| 16:48.09 | Shadowcat | but it's better than vim |
| 16:48.11 | Shadowcat | a LOT better |
| 16:48.15 | iter | ^X ^sucky |
| 16:48.16 | VIm_Enforcer | Shadowcat, why don't you go and hug RMS? |
| 16:48.18 | Pupeno_ | DerJamster: thanks! That's what I wanted! |
| 16:48.18 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 16:48.42 | iter | anyway emacs is a good editor |
| 16:48.54 | iter | but if just have to jump in and change one line in a config file |
| 16:48.56 | d0uglas | debian should drop support for the shift button.. it's time we phase out capital letters |
| 16:49.02 | VIm_Enforcer | yea |
| 16:49.04 | d0uglas | but then you couldn't join an irc channel.. nevermind |
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| 16:49.16 | Shadowcat | .... |
| 16:49.17 | Shadowcat | wtf? |
| 16:49.25 | tralala | emacs is only good for you to run your mail reader and irc client _inside_ your text editor |
| 16:49.27 | Shadowcat | that made no sense |
| 16:49.32 | iter | tralala: haha |
| 16:49.33 | fluxdude | I've got xine and am trying to play a mov file but there is no sound, even though I have sound in audacious playing mp3s and the mov file plays with sound in mplayer. Any ideas? |
| 16:49.34 | Shadowcat | you can join an IRC channel with a dip stick |
| 16:49.43 | Shadowcat | just input the right sequence of binary |
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| 16:49.53 | Shadowcat | don't need a keyboard to operate a machine |
| 16:49.56 | Shadowcat | just helps A LOT |
| 16:49.57 | VIm_Enforcer | tralala, true |
| 16:50.03 | VIm_Enforcer | too many bells n whistles |
| 16:50.05 | VIm_Enforcer | and overal |
| 16:50.06 | iter | Shadowcat: don't need a hard drive either |
| 16:50.06 | VIm_Enforcer | l |
| 16:50.06 | d0uglas | wow .. learn something new every day here |
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| 16:50.08 | VIm_Enforcer | suckage |
| 16:50.11 | iter | I don't have a hard drive |
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| 16:50.23 | iter | I have a basement full of chinese kids that I make memorize numbers |
| 16:50.27 | bobesponja | hey all |
| 16:50.29 | VIm_Enforcer | iter, old :) |
| 16:50.45 | tralala | of course, it's also good if you don't mind typing the same amount of commands as the amount of the actual text |
| 16:50.48 | d0uglas | theoretically if you have a good sense of pitch you could just dial into a modem and scream a lot |
| 16:50.48 | iter | hehe shall I put on the robe and wizard hat now |
| 16:50.53 | bobesponja | I have a debian 32bits that runs on a core2 duo 64bits, is there a way to upgrade with apt? |
| 16:50.57 | d0uglas | you might have to be a eunic though |
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| 16:51.21 | bobesponja | I mean to upgrade to a debian 64 |
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| 16:51.47 | d0uglas | isn't the core2 duo fast enough without needing "support" for it? sheesh |
| 16:51.48 | VIm_Enforcer | iter, you spend a lot of time on bash.org, don't you ? |
| 16:51.50 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 16:52.03 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiab |
| 16:52.03 | iter | they tried to brainw^H^H^H^H^H teach me to use emacs back in college |
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| 16:52.12 | VIm_Enforcer | iter, poor sod |
| 16:52.14 | VIm_Enforcer | :| |
| 16:52.18 | VIm_Enforcer | i feel for you |
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| 16:52.26 | VIm_Enforcer | >:P |
| 16:52.31 | VIm_Enforcer | emax is evil |
| 16:52.32 | iter | I don't think I was smart enough to be one of the emacs elite |
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| 16:52.59 | iter | nice for programming in scheme though |
| 16:53.07 | VIm_Enforcer | iter, you mean you didn't have enough fingers to be able to control-meta-s-g-b-c-shift-foo-bar |
| 16:53.16 | VIm_Enforcer | to insert a capital Q |
| 16:53.22 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 16:53.41 | iter | I'm don't allow myself to read bash.org |
| 16:53.45 | bobesponja | anyone? :) |
| 16:54.05 | iter | about once a year someone will link to it and then I'll waste 2hrs reading it |
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| 16:54.32 | VIm_Enforcer | iter, i thought you were going to laugh at the pitifulness of emacs |
| 16:54.34 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
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| 16:55.01 | iter | actually up until very recently I didn't like vim either |
| 16:55.05 | iter | it was vi or death |
| 16:55.15 | VIm_Enforcer | so what |
| 16:55.16 | iter | now I've seen the light though |
| 16:55.20 | VIm_Enforcer | you like it NOW. |
| 16:55.27 | VIm_Enforcer | thus you rock :) |
| 16:55.36 | VIm_Enforcer | like me and everyone using vim :) |
| 16:56.29 | omry | I just had a crash (power outage), possibly during a dist upgrade (apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing now), any my xserver fonts are all messed up. I dont have any fonts in most applications. |
| 16:56.48 | omry | any idea how to fix things? |
| 16:57.02 | VIm_Enforcer | beat them repeatedly with a hammer |
| 16:57.05 | VIm_Enforcer | brb |
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| 16:58.58 | tralala | omry, apt-get -f install |
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| 17:00.16 | omry | tralala, nothing. |
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| 17:00.42 | Ono | how can i remove package with depenceries |
| 17:00.54 | tralala | omry, dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:00.56 | Ono | how can i remove package with dependencies |
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| 17:01.29 | tralala | Ono, apt-get remove |
| 17:01.50 | Ono | tralala, my apt boroken |
| 17:01.57 | Ono | i neet apt package remove |
| 17:02.06 | Ono | bu apt not removing |
| 17:02.28 | Ono | dpkg -r apt => dependency problems - not removing |
| 17:02.43 | cydork | hehe |
| 17:02.46 | Ono | :) |
| 17:02.48 | Pons | guys, i have a server that in /opt has folders from various users, and i'd like to export them read/write. Which system is best for this case, nfs or smb, if I need to access all files read/write from the client machine? |
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| 17:03.47 | VIm_Enforcer | the sound works kool now i'm in the audio group :) |
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| 17:04.26 | Hummin | sssup fokes |
| 17:04.33 | cydork | Ono: paste the errors in a paster |
| 17:04.34 | cydork | !paster |
| 17:04.35 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 17:04.49 | Ono | cydork, just one line |
| 17:05.14 | Hummin | I set up debian on my imac.. then setup xface and xwindows.. unfortunately x.org sends output the external output .. anyone know how to change that? |
| 17:05.29 | VIm_Enforcer | d0uglas, thanks for the tip |
| 17:05.32 | VIm_Enforcer | and use vim |
| 17:05.33 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
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| 17:06.41 | omry | tralala, nothing, sorry. |
| 17:06.55 | omry | maybe I should reinstall/recofigure the fonts? |
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| 17:08.55 | tralala | omry, reconfigure should do |
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| 17:09.07 | omry | tralala, I dont know which package to reconfigure. |
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| 17:11.00 | Ozewa | can somebody answer a question for me real quick? |
| 17:11.11 | VIm_Enforcer | Ozewa, yes |
| 17:11.16 | VIm_Enforcer | ^^ |
| 17:11.22 | Ozewa | When is a file descriptor not an integer? |
| 17:11.23 | VIm_Enforcer | that was your answer |
| 17:11.23 | VIm_Enforcer | :) |
| 17:11.34 | tralala | omry, did you restart X? |
| 17:12.01 | omry | tralala, no. doing it now. |
| 17:12.01 | VIm_Enforcer | Ozewa, you got your question answered :))) |
| 17:12.01 | Ozewa | wait, what? |
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| 17:12.06 | VIm_Enforcer | Ozewa, that's your 3rd question :) |
| 17:12.15 | dendrite | !ask |
| 17:12.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 17:12.36 | VIm_Enforcer | Ozewa, when you choose to |
| 17:12.44 | Ronin | we doing your homework Ozewa? :) |
| 17:12.52 | VIm_Enforcer | you can make a fd of your own |
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| 17:13.02 | VIm_Enforcer | and it can be a character too |
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| 17:13.12 | Ozewa | not my homework, just confused about that as all the examples I've seen have the FD as an int |
| 17:13.12 | VIm_Enforcer | exec f<> afaik |
| 17:13.27 | omry | tralala, didn't help. |
| 17:13.55 | tralala | omry, do you run a DM? |
| 17:14.10 | omry | tralala, desktop manager? yes. |
| 17:14.12 | omry | KDE |
| 17:14.25 | omry | if that is what you mean |
| 17:14.35 | omry | some fonts wont show. some will |
| 17:14.43 | dendrite | Ozewa: The system maintains a list of file descriptors. The int is a reference number into that list. |
| 17:15.33 | tralala | omry, no I mean Display Manager - kdm, xdm, gdm |
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| 17:15.43 | Ozewa | but you can stat it with a file name |
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| 17:15.45 | Ozewa | right? |
| 17:15.48 | omry | tralala, yes. gdm. |
| 17:15.59 | VIm_Enforcer | Ozewa, n<>file |
| 17:16.07 | VIm_Enforcer | opens file 'file' for read/write as fd n |
| 17:16.45 | dendrite | Ozewa: I'm not following your question. |
| 17:16.46 | d0uglas | nodm is the most streamlined and the fastest of them all |
| 17:16.53 | d0uglas | highly sophisticated debian technology |
| 17:16.54 | tralala | omry, restart the gdm then |
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| 17:17.16 | Ozewa | sys/stat.h, you can grab the stats with just a file name |
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| 17:18.19 | dendrite | Ozewa: Are you suggesting that the presence of a numerically indexed file descriptor table should prevent the system from looking up a file by any other means? |
| 17:18.31 | cybermike | What is one to do if he neds to install debian on a system with unsupported hardware, lets say sata II controllers, and the driver has been added intp the kernel but its not on the install cd? |
| 17:18.59 | zaphands | Hello. Why can't I debug using eclipse on Debian? GDB keeps saying "Stopped due to shared library event". It's a simple project with no external libraries. I can debug it using GDB but it's ugly. |
| 17:18.59 | omry | tralala, didn't help |
| 17:19.06 | abrotman | !tell cybermike about sarge uni |
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| 17:19.27 | abrotman | cybermike: or if it's for a workstation you can try etch(my understanding is that the netinst is currently broken) |
| 17:19.56 | cybermike | for now its a workstation |
| 17:20.02 | cybermike | but i have had the problem with servers as well |
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| 17:20.10 | cybermike | etch is another installer i guess? |
| 17:20.17 | abrotman | etch is currently testing |
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| 17:20.29 | tralala | omry, do you run sarge? |
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| 17:20.35 | omry | tralala, etch, |
| 17:20.40 | abrotman | of course .. at this point .. the timetable for etch's release is unknown |
| 17:21.02 | Ozewa | so the file name is contained within the inode table of a file? |
| 17:21.04 | cybermike | well all i need is an installer with support for more recent hardware...is that made public available? |
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| 17:22.24 | cybermike | i have been concidering ubuntu...but adding the debian repositories to ubuntu seems to break things, and ubuntu repository is not satisfying at all |
| 17:22.26 | tralala | omry, it could be a bug in the fonts then and not in the installation. |
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| 17:22.49 | omry | tralala, it could be anything. but its probably related to that crash. |
| 17:23.13 | cybermike | abrotman: where do i get these unofficial installers? the bot dosnt say |
| 17:23.17 | omry | I`ll try to start gnome.. |
| 17:24.05 | cydork | cybermike: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.18 |
| 17:24.09 | xittum | im writeing this dual boot howto.. is ntfs-fuse-thingy "stable" enough to mention in my howto? |
| 17:24.17 | cydork | cybermike: still give a shot to etch.. |
| 17:24.21 | cybermike | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.25 | cybermike | sry |
| 17:24.42 | cybermike | cydork: well..sure...msg dpkg etch? |
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| 17:25.26 | cydork | cybermike: well that too, but i was saying try installing it too :P |
| 17:25.56 | cybermike | where do you get images for that so ? :) |
| 17:26.14 | Morpheus8 | does anyone know how to extract the list of installed packages from a system that I cannot boot into? I can access the filesystem. |
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| 17:27.12 | cydork | cybermike: /msg dpkg etch :) |
| 17:27.31 | omry | tralala, gnome has the same problem. |
| 17:27.41 | cybermike | cydork: so for my workstation you would voutch for etch? |
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| 17:28.53 | tralala | omry, I don't think it's a problem with the package. Maybe it's a filesystem problem. Try to reinstall all the x font packages. |
| 17:29.00 | salimfadhley | Hi, is there a way to repair a package using apt-get? Some of the mysql config files were destroyed but an apt-get remove followed by an install does not give me a fresh mysql installation |
| 17:29.16 | omry | tralala, package name? |
| 17:29.18 | stew | salimfadhley: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:29.35 | tralala | omry, aptitude search 'xorg.*font' |
| 17:29.37 | salimfadhley | stew, are you suggesting I should msg somebody here? |
| 17:29.47 | stew | salimfadhley: yes, the bot named dpkg |
| 17:29.52 | Ronin | salimfadhley: yes /msg dpkg whatever stew said |
| 17:30.09 | d0uglas | better ask for his permission first |
| 17:30.17 | cydork | that reminds me of boten anna! |
| 17:30.20 | d0uglas | people don't take kindly to being /msged 'round here |
| 17:30.29 | Ronin | d0uglas: |
| 17:30.57 | d0uglas | the suspense is killing me man |
| 17:31.02 | stew | salimfadhley: confmiss will cover the case where the conffiles are missing completely. if they are there but have been changed by you, dpkg wont write over them unelss you first purge the pacakge (losing all package specific configuration) |
| 17:31.12 | jirik_the_empero | Hi ...I installed bootsplash and he is working but he is replacing by "strange" other bootsplash. I think that he is default kernel bootsplash but i don't known how to disable him. I have kernel 2.6.16 |
| 17:31.30 | omry | tralala, how do I only reinstall what's already installed? doing apt-get install xfonts-* wants to fetch 150mb. |
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| 17:32.21 | salimfadhley | yes, is there a way to purge mysql* |
| 17:32.26 | salimfadhley | anything to do with mysql |
| 17:32.53 | d0uglas | jirik_the_empero: might have better luck with fblogo |
| 17:33.34 | stew | salimfadhley: yes, purge the mysql-common or mysql-common-4.1 or mysql-common-5.0 package depeding on what you have installed |
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| 17:33.48 | fasta | I am not really up to date regarding MS Word's spell checker, but I sure know the one in OpenOffice is _very_ bad for my native language. Is MS's better? I am not really asking for myself, since I don't use a word processor application. |
| 17:33.53 | smacnay_ | is there an issue with setting up kopete in Debian testing right now? Seems that I get a shell of a program with no ability to add accounts etc. |
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| 17:34.00 | salimfadhley | is purge an apt option or just a synonym for remove? |
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| 17:34.15 | fasta | salimfadhley: man apt / purge RET |
| 17:34.25 | fasta | salimfadhley: man apt-get / purge RET |
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| 17:34.51 | drkvg | hi - when adding TTF files to ~/.fonts/, is there a command to throw so that font listings are updated, rather than restart X or something? |
| 17:34.52 | d0uglas | salimfadhley: an option, yo |
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| 17:34.57 | Morpheus8 | where does dpkg store its list of installed packages? |
| 17:34.59 | stew | salimfadhley: purge is a different operation than remove. remove doens't remove any of the config files, purge also removes config files |
| 17:35.21 | salimfadhley | Yep thats what I want... a total purge of confug & data so I can restore from backusp |
| 17:35.23 | stew | Morpheus8: /var/lib/dpkg/status which you should probably never interact with directly |
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| 17:35.24 | fasta | stew: purge only removes config files in _system_ dir, right? |
| 17:35.24 | xjkx | what does it means when it says "w32codecs is not available, but its referenced by another package" how am i supposed to fix? |
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| 17:35.52 | stew | fasta: any config files installed/managed by the package, dpkg should certainly not touch anything in /home, ever |
| 17:35.59 | omry | anyknow knows of a magic command to kick the font system in the nuts? |
| 17:36.03 | fasta | stew: ok, that's what I thought |
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| 17:36.23 | tralala | omry, apt-get install $(aptitude search '~ixfonts' | awk '{print $3}') |
| 17:36.24 | Morpheus8 | stew: I just need a list of installed packages from a system that is not booting up... would have used dpkg --get-selections otherwise |
| 17:36.24 | xjkx | what does it means when it says "w32codecs is not available, but its referenced by another package" how am i supposed to fix? |
| 17:36.33 | d0uglas | xjkx: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 17:36.36 | salimfadhley | Something must not be purging... |
| 17:36.38 | salimfadhley | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.38 | tralala | some sort of --reinstall option could be needed |
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| 17:36.46 | salimfadhley | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "stop" failed. |
| 17:36.55 | stew | Morpheus8: mount / from another os, the chroot to it and run dpkg --get-selections |
| 17:37.08 | d0uglas | xjkx: you should wait at least 38 seconds before repeating the identical question |
| 17:37.19 | stew | s#mount /# mount / and /var# |
| 17:37.23 | d0uglas | this isn't efnet |
| 17:37.24 | Morpheus8 | stew: already tried that. the chroot command gives a segfault!! :O |
| 17:37.25 | xjkx | thought i did say somewhere else |
| 17:37.53 | d0uglas | xjkx: did you tweak your sources.list? |
| 17:38.10 | fasta | xjkx: marillat changed address |
| 17:38.16 | stew | Morpheus8: note that status contains packages with status other than installed |
| 17:38.20 | salimfadhley | A purge of mysql-server did not remove /etc/init.d/mysql - doesnt that seem odd to you? |
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| 17:38.27 | xjkx | define d0uglas 'tweak' |
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| 17:38.31 | salimfadhley | I also got rid of mysql-common |
| 17:38.33 | xjkx | fasta, never used that |
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| 17:38.39 | stew | Morpheus8: you may want to use a tool like grep-status from the grep-dctrl package |
| 17:38.45 | Morpheus8 | stew: right, saw that. Thanks! will take care of package status |
| 17:38.52 | fasta | xjkx: then it's obviously not going to work |
| 17:39.03 | abrotman | salimfadhley: is the dir empty? |
| 17:39.07 | stew | salimfadhley: is mysql-common-4.1 or mysql-common-5.0 installed? |
| 17:39.11 | omry | tralala, surprisingly that didn't help. (I added --reinstall) |
| 17:39.13 | d0uglas | xjkx: which debian are you using |
| 17:39.23 | omry | it rebuilt the font cache etc, but I still have the problem. |
| 17:39.32 | Morpheus8 | stew: thanks for your help... I'll go try getting my system back now :) |
| 17:39.41 | xjkx | fasta, so w32codecs is only on this marillat or something?i use BR CDD it uses testing |
| 17:39.54 | xjkx | debian br cdd |
| 17:39.58 | fasta | xjkx: I don't know what cdd is |
| 17:40.09 | xjkx | its a br desktop version of debian |
| 17:40.14 | xjkx | brazilian |
| 17:40.16 | fasta | xjkx: in practice, yes |
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| 17:40.25 | salimfadhley | Both of those packages got purged |
| 17:40.30 | fasta | xjkx: you can also compile your own mplayer |
| 17:40.31 | Ronin | xjkx: perhaps you may want to check in thier irc channel then? we dont know what they may have changed |
| 17:40.31 | xjkx | fasta, so whats the new adderess of marillat? |
| 17:40.39 | d0uglas | xjkx: something like that.. echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-get update |
| 17:40.49 | d0uglas | ... unless it changed |
| 17:41.14 | stew | xjkx: w32codecs cannot be distrbuted by debian becuase of legal problems with the intellectual property it contains |
| 17:41.17 | d0uglas | btw, which package asked for this? |
| 17:41.18 | tralala | omry, it has to be a bug then |
| 17:41.29 | tralala | at least I'm out of ideas |
| 17:42.07 | salimfadhley | Can you work out which package provudes /etc/init.d/mysql normally |
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| 17:42.31 | stew | salimfadhley: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/mysql |
| 17:42.45 | salimfadhley | thanks |
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| 17:46.39 | unfo | hi all, is there a database that does not require its own shell, but comes with a bunch of shell scripts like sselect, sinsert, screate, sdrop, etc? |
| 17:47.16 | salimfadhley | sqlite? |
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| 17:47.40 | abrotman | unfo: maybe ask #sql |
| 17:48.19 | unfo | abrotman: will try. |
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| 17:50.13 | xunubu | whats the meaning of tsc in -2.4.27-3-586tsc kernel? |
| 17:50.26 | zinx | time stamp counter |
| 17:50.46 | Feax | When I start KDE with KDM, the polices are too small, but when I start KDE with startx they are too big, the start menu take 2 colons :/ How can I solve this ? |
| 17:52.08 | omry | I have a serious problem with my fonts on etch, here is a screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=280721807&size=o , any idea what can it be or how to fix it? |
| 17:53.04 | Xri34234 | GO into control panel, and into fonts |
| 17:53.09 | Xri34234 | And make them black =/ |
| 17:53.09 | xittum | omry: well at least you got icons :P |
| 17:53.27 | omry | xittum, right :) |
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| 17:54.20 | blueyed | omry: haven't noticed the menu, thought about the (anti)aliasing in xchat.. x) |
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| 17:54.41 | omry | blueyed, I turned off aa as an attempt to fix it. |
| 17:54.49 | omry | which didn't help |
| 17:55.25 | omry | when I open the k menu, the fonts appear for a moment, then disappear. |
| 17:55.40 | omry | i think I see them when the menu fades in. |
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| 17:58.28 | omry | am I supposed to have a local fonts server at localhost:7100 ? |
| 17:58.42 | xunubu | ugly, my rt2500 driver doesnt build on 2.4.27-3-586tsc, but on 2.4.27-2-586tsc it does |
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| 17:58.56 | eyeris | omry do you have a font server installed? |
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| 17:59.23 | omry | eye69, not to my knowledge. I just saw I have a reference to a font server in the xorg.conf file. |
| 18:00.09 | eyeris | omry what does `dpkg-query -s xfs` show? what about `dpkg-query -s xfstt`? |
| 18:00.40 | omry | eyeris, none of them is installed |
| 18:01.00 | eyeris | omry Don't worry about that. The font server will use that if it is installed. Otherwise it is harmless. I would suggest installing a font server though. It should make applications start up faster. |
| 18:01.34 | omry | eyeris, I have a bigger fish to fry first - making application appear correctly. |
| 18:01.41 | omry | you think installing a font server will help? |
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| 18:03.12 | kid_icarus | hye sudo hibernate don't work on my 2.6.18.1 kernel laptop anybody know how to use sudo ? |
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| 18:04.07 | abrotman | man sudo |
| 18:04.07 | pumpkin0 | kid_icarus: does hibernate work if run as root ? |
| 18:04.21 | omry | I think its a resource leak of some kind, not a font problem. when I access the kde fonts selection dialog in the kontrol center, initially I can see the preview of the current font but after selecting a font some times it no longer appears in the preview. |
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| 18:04.39 | karl | where do i get a recent prepacked kernel for debian testing? |
| 18:04.40 | kid_icarus | yes it works perfectly ! |
| 18:05.11 | pumpkin0 | karl: ask aptitude. |
| 18:05.26 | karl | yes pumpkin0 but those are not recent |
| 18:05.33 | pumpkin0 | kid_icarus: OK. did you read the manuels for sudo ? |
| 18:05.36 | cahoot | karl: you can look at packages.debian.org |
| 18:05.45 | abrotman | karl: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 18:05.48 | karl | thank you cahoot |
| 18:05.52 | kid_icarus | I don't understand i am a french guy |
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| 18:05.57 | pumpkin0 | !fr |
| 18:05.57 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:06.21 | kid_icarus | there is less geek in french forums |
| 18:06.36 | GrimWald | and more morons. |
| 18:07.20 | pumpkin0 | kid_icarus: did you read the french version of the sudo man page ? |
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| 18:07.36 | kid_icarus | i have tryed to edit /etc/sudo.list with vim but the file is in read-only mode only |
| 18:07.58 | pumpkin0 | kid_icarus: you have to be root in order to edit that one. |
| 18:08.00 | Deny_[All] | kid_icarus: use sudovi |
| 18:08.10 | kid_icarus | yes |
| 18:08.11 | GrimWald | edites le après t'être logué en root kid_icarus ? |
| 18:08.12 | cahoot | visudo |
| 18:08.27 | kid_icarus | i think it is sudoedit to accomplish this |
| 18:08.37 | cahoot | although sudovi has a ring to it |
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| 18:08.45 | Deny_[All] | kid_icarus: or after u modify the file use !wq |
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| 18:09.10 | kid_icarus | i know but commentary say me don't edit this file manually |
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| 18:09.14 | karl | what if apt warns with an untrusted package? can i safely install that package, which is in this case a kernel? |
| 18:09.39 | kid_icarus | it depends depository |
| 18:09.47 | Deny_[All] | karl did you import the key? |
| 18:10.03 | karl | Deny_[All] no, do you mean the gpg key? |
| 18:10.14 | Deny_[All] | karl: yes |
| 18:10.19 | stew | karl: /msg dpkg apt-secure |
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| 18:11.01 | karl | Deny_[All] no, i didn't install it yet, but i'm going to, but can i meanwhile install that package |
| 18:11.05 | Deny_[All] | kid_icarus: <kid_icarus> i know but commentary say me don't edit this file manually << if u know what r u doing u don't need be worryed |
| 18:11.09 | stew | kid_icarus: 'visudo' is the command you should be using to edit /etc/sudoers |
| 18:11.17 | GrimWald | it doesn't really matter if you edit it manually kid_icarus, just be sure to add the right lines |
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| 18:11.37 | kid_icarus | okay thanks |
| 18:11.41 | stew | visudo will check the syntax and only commit your changes if they are valid syntax |
| 18:12.10 | karl | strange, i wanted to install a new kernel and it also installs busybox. is there a need for? |
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| 18:12.58 | pumpkin0 | karl: depends on the kernel ... didn´t you have bash installed ? |
| 18:13.06 | VIm_Enforcer | bbiaw |
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| 18:13.22 | karl | pumpin0 i have bash installed, i'm working on it |
| 18:13.50 | pumpkin0 | karl: don´t install busybox if you can avoid it. |
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| 18:14.17 | d0uglas | but wouldn't an irc warrior claim not to be an irc warrior? |
| 18:14.25 | stew | karl: the initrd will use busybox |
| 18:14.26 | karl | pumpin0 but it is installed, can i safely remove it, shurly, can't i |
| 18:14.27 | d0uglas | ... all he'd have to do is read the bitchx docs |
| 18:14.42 | karl | stew, exact initrd is also installed during kernel installation |
| 18:15.00 | karl | so should i leave it installed |
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| 18:15.39 | stew | karl: when the kernel package is installed, a new initrd which uses busybox, will be created using initramfs-tools |
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| 18:16.08 | karl | stew, what does it mean for me, do i have to leave it installed? will the kernel need it? |
| 18:16.17 | stew | karl: the initrd will need it |
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| 18:16.36 | stew | karl: your alternative is to use yaird instead of initramfs-tools which doesn't use busybox afaik, but initramfs-tools is better supported than yaird |
| 18:16.45 | karl | stew, so then, i'll live with it ;) thank you very much |
| 18:17.09 | stew | another even less recommended alternative would be to build a custom kernel which doesn't rely on an initrd |
| 18:17.24 | karl | stew, but just because busybox is installed does not mean, that the tools i'm using like "ls" is used out of busybox |
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| 18:17.47 | stew | karl: correct. just the initrd |
| 18:18.01 | pumpkin0 | where can i find in-depth information about the suspend-to-ram system implemented in 2.6.15 (that´s not suspend2...) ? |
| 18:18.01 | karl | stew, i used to have my own kernel, but this is an old machine, i do not have that time for it |
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| 18:19.14 | karl | also i would like to use lm-sensor but the board i'm using requires the module called via686a, but the kernel doesn't have it |
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| 18:19.49 | stew | karl: what kernel are you installing? |
| 18:20.08 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:20.08 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:20.27 | karl | it is the 2.6.8-18 compiled for pentium i686 |
| 18:20.28 | tarzeau | stew: why is it less recommended to build an own kernel without initrd? |
| 18:20.56 | tarzeau | i've got the latest 2.4 and 2.6 here http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/ |
| 18:21.04 | tarzeau | ok the 2.6 is not the very latest |
| 18:21.13 | pumpkin0 | tarzeau: because it usually causes work in this channel. If you know howto do it ... no problem |
| 18:21.23 | stew | tarzeau: becuase its much more likely that an inexperienced user would end up with a non-booting kernel |
| 18:22.06 | karl | ohh pardon, it is the 2.6.8-3-686 |
| 18:22.18 | stew | karl: you can install a backported kernel which will support via686a: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 |
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| 18:25.58 | wols_ | pumpkin0: imho initrd causes more work in custom kernels |
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| 18:28.23 | tarzeau | 13:25 < tarzeau> abrotman... freepop doesn't need kyra anymore |
| 18:28.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i know someone who will update libclan... |
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| 18:29.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: it doens't ? |
| 18:30.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: not since 0.4.0 |
| 18:30.07 | pumpkin0 | wols_: w/o initrd my kernel would not boot at all (since the root-partition is not easily mountable ...) |
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| 18:30.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: but it'll need fast 3d graphics drivers |
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| 18:30.37 | abrotman | really ? |
| 18:30.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes for the alpha blended rendering of tiles |
| 18:31.20 | abrotman | ah .. i think i'd rather have kyra :) |
| 18:31.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: have you tried fizzball? |
| 18:31.54 | JordiGH | !info fizzball |
| 18:31.59 | JordiGH | :-9 |
| 18:32.01 | JordiGH | :-( |
| 18:32.02 | d0uglas | i hate bcm43xx error messages interfering with my bitchx experience.. always hitting control l |
| 18:32.38 | Skiver | lols/ |
| 18:32.40 | d0uglas | there's gotta be some kind of bcm43xx_supress.irc script |
| 18:32.43 | Skiver | look at ie7.com |
| 18:32.51 | karl | dynamic mmap run out of room" what does this mean? i was adding a backport to my sources.list |
| 18:33.14 | xjkx | how do i grep with full word, like |grep firefox not including firefox-xxx |
| 18:33.14 | abrotman | nope |
| 18:33.22 | d0uglas | skiver nice |
| 18:33.23 | JordiGH | Skiver: I'm confused. I was expecting to see arctic mammals. |
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| 18:34.05 | d0uglas | reminds me of the oldschool 2600 website *-sucks.com redirect hacks |
| 18:34.12 | xjkx | dpkg grep |
| 18:34.13 | dpkg | well, grep is at http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/grep.html (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep.) or called that because of ed's g/RE/p command, which does the same thing or "Marvel at the beautiful plumage of the wild grep as it glides lazily through the thick morning ASCII.". Global Regular Expression Print |
| 18:34.14 | d0uglas | and the subsequent nynex litigation |
| 18:34.19 | xjkx | dpkg grep full word |
| 18:34.34 | Skiver | will they get sued ? |
| 18:35.00 | d0uglas | this was many years ago, before even the days of waol < 5.0 |
| 18:35.10 | d0uglas | and they did get sued, many a time, and won |
| 18:35.27 | JordiGH | Skiver: I don't know. I really hope Mozilla isn't litigious. It'll really piss off some people besides hardcore Debian idealists. |
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| 18:36.39 | d0uglas | thanks to 2600 we are free to register $foo-sucks.com domains where foo equals publically recognizable individuals, companies and organizations |
| 18:36.42 | Skiver | JordiGH, i know about the conflict about logo usage. who else did mozilla piss off ? |
| 18:36.49 | d0uglas | provided they redirect to foo's actual website |
| 18:37.24 | d0uglas | without too long a meta refresh delay lingering on some dirty ascii art |
| 18:37.31 | cydork | JordiGH: hope i am alive when you find them :p |
| 18:37.46 | JordiGH | Skiver: Oh, no one else, actually. It looks like the rest of the world thinks the FSF and Debian are a bunch of loonies for not taking their medicine and adhering to Mozilla's standards. |
| 18:38.01 | Trewas | Skiver: no one, and that debian vs. mozilla stuff has been blown far out of proportion |
| 18:38.16 | abrotman | JordiGH: intel |
| 18:38.17 | liran_ | hey cydor |
| 18:38.20 | JordiGH | Skiver: But the issue with Debian was more than just the logo. Mozilla and Debian didn't agree on how to handle bugs in Firefox in older versions. |
| 18:38.30 | JordiGH | abrotman: Are you sure about this? |
| 18:38.39 | abrotman | that they have free drivers? yes |
| 18:38.49 | JordiGH | abrotman: And I'll be able to ruin Nexuiz? |
| 18:38.52 | JordiGH | Er, run. |
| 18:38.57 | wols_ | abrotman: but they're FAR from "perfect 3D card" :) |
| 18:39.02 | Trewas | JordiGH: and that's because there was no point in discussing anything else after it was clear that debian would not ship firefox with non-free logo and mozilla would not change the logo's license |
| 18:39.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: have you heard about the nouveau drivers? (nvidia bin replacement) |
| 18:39.08 | abrotman | http://news.com.com/Intel+aims+for+open-source+graphics+advantage/2100-7344_3-6103941.html |
| 18:39.14 | karl | where do i get the public key for backports.org for example? |
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| 18:39.20 | cydork | liran_: hiya |
| 18:39.21 | abrotman | wols_: depends what oyu need them for .. for me .. it's perfect :) |
| 18:39.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: i heard |
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| 18:39.35 | JordiGH | abrotman: Nexuiz! |
| 18:39.37 | abrotman | JordiGH: they don't sell just cards .. you have to get it onboard |
| 18:39.46 | kakito | onde eu arrumo programs pra debian tipo bitoreent |
| 18:39.49 | kakito | ?????? |
| 18:40.01 | JordiGH | abrotman: That's fine, as long as I get good OpenGL support. |
| 18:40.02 | JordiGH | !pr |
| 18:40.07 | JordiGH | !br |
| 18:40.07 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 18:40.27 | d0uglas | kakito: i bet you have a nice ass |
| 18:40.47 | abrotman | JordiGH: guess you'll have to ask around .. i know i have an 8xx .. dunno what vin` has |
| 18:41.01 | d0uglas | <-- i xtracerouted you back to somewhere in brazil |
| 18:41.18 | abrotman | d0uglas: knock it off |
| 18:41.23 | abrotman | and maybe read the hostmask |
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| 18:41.25 | karl | i'm getting "Dynamic MMap ran out of root, Error occured while processing ekiga, Problem with MergeList ../backports.org_debian-package" whats wrong? |
| 18:41.25 | vin` | abrotman: i915 |
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| 18:41.36 | abrotman | vin`: can you play nexuiuz or whatever he wants to play ? |
| 18:41.37 | tarzeau | !dynamic mmap |
| 18:41.37 | JordiGH | vin`: And...? |
| 18:41.37 | dpkg | i guess dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
| 18:41.51 | liran_ | cydork: I wanted to go over something with you... |
| 18:42.12 | JordiGH | Alright, in all seriousness, Nexuiz isn't as important as Octaviz. |
| 18:42.13 | JordiGH | !info octaviz |
| 18:42.19 | dpkg | octaviz: (3D visualization system for Octave), section math, is optional. Version: 0.4.0+cvs20060921-2 (sid), Packaged size: 13571 kB, Installed size: 38820 kB |
| 18:42.50 | Skiver | JordiGH, yeah i've read the mail list, Iceweasel is not so bad for a name. |
| 18:42.53 | karl | stew, still here |
| 18:43.04 | tarzeau | JordiGH: but then i don't know anyone using octaviz |
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| 18:43.17 | stew | karl: yes |
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| 18:43.34 | JordiGH | tarzeau: They should! So much prettier than that gnuplot crap. And probably problems with getting OpenGL working are the reason nobody uses Octaviz. |
| 18:43.36 | tarzeau | JordiGH: but many that use maple, matlab, pv-wave, gnuplot, cernlib, sextractor, mathematica... |
| 18:43.51 | tarzeau | JordiGH: we have opengl working at our workstations |
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| 18:43.54 | JordiGH | Aaahhh!!! You said a dirty word!! |
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| 18:44.00 | tarzeau | JordiGH: so there must be something other which is annoying with octaviz |
| 18:44.06 | ak70 | so is there any difference in the source between firefox and iceweasel? |
| 18:44.16 | tarzeau | JordiGH: i don't say i like any of those products |
| 18:44.18 | karl | stew: i do get strange errors during aptitude update, with the backport in my sources.list. it says that dynamic MMap ran out of room. what am i doing wrong? |
| 18:44.40 | tarzeau | JordiGH: i'm just saying out of many people i help out in a lot of ways, i haven't ever seen anyone knowing/using octaviz, albeit it's there, available |
| 18:44.47 | JordiGH | tarzeau: People don't use Octaviz because they don't use Octave, but every person around here to whom I've shown Octaviz plots likes them better than gnuplot or Matlab. |
| 18:45.03 | tarzeau | JordiGH: can you show me example plots? |
| 18:45.14 | stew | ak70: it depends on which firefox you are talking about, the original firefox from mozilla, or the firefox package in debian, and which iceweasel you are talking about, the gnu project named iceweasel, or the not yet existing debian package to be named iceweasel |
| 18:45.20 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Also, Octaviz doesn't get much publicity. You need to go out of your way to find them, since Octaviz doesn't ship with Octave; gnuplot does. |
| 18:45.24 | tarzeau | JordiGH: i've got a lot of numbers (a list) and i'd like to plot a gaussian curve of them |
| 18:45.25 | stew | karl: /msg dpkg mmap |
| 18:45.25 | JordiGH | tarzeau: One sec. |
| 18:46.28 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Btw, Octaviz is for 3d plots mostly. What are you going to do with a Gaussian curve? |
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| 18:46.49 | tarzeau | JordiGH: i see, ok does it have an irc channel? |
| 18:47.06 | tarzeau | JordiGH: would you like to make an introduction/examples for a wider audience as in : http://www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/ ? |
| 18:47.32 | JordiGH | http://digana.livejournal.com/30547.html |
| 18:48.03 | karl | stew i'm getting this error when using aptitude, also this entry which /msg bot gives didn't help |
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| 18:48.32 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Development in Octaviz is kinda slow too. I haven't gotten around to learning the VTK API in order to be able to contribute, even though it looks relatively simple. :-/ |
| 18:48.51 | stew | karl: have you run "apt-get update" since editing apt.conf? |
| 18:48.54 | tarzeau | JordiGH: do you know IDL or PV-WAVE ? |
| 18:49.09 | karl | stew ohh, i increased the size, now it works, thank you |
| 18:49.21 | JordiGH | tarzeau: I don't. What are they |
| 18:49.22 | JordiGH | ? |
| 18:49.44 | tarzeau | JordiGH: for IDL: http://www.creaso.com/ |
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| 18:49.56 | tarzeau | JordiGH: for PV-WAVE: http://www.vni.com/ |
| 18:50.12 | vin` | abrotman: haven't tried nexuiz, 139MB download, bleh. |
| 18:50.19 | tarzeau | JordiGH: pv-wave has a module for plotting nearing surfaces which doesn't work on linux (but on some commercial unix) |
| 18:50.33 | tarzeau | JordiGH: that someone needs i know... if there was another software that could easily do it.. |
| 18:50.39 | cybermike | How do i invoke dpkg/apt on a .deb file and make it resolve dependencies |
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| 18:50.52 | JordiGH | tarzeau: I've had people rave about POVRay, which you seem to care about. |
| 18:50.53 | tarzeau | JordiGH: IDL is like VERY EXPENSIVE (way more than what duct-tank wants to pay) |
| 18:50.56 | abrotman | vin`: yeah .. i know .. |
| 18:51.18 | tarzeau | JordiGH: what's with povray? i care about every free software (well almost) |
| 18:51.22 | JordiGH | Commerial Unix? You mean, SuSE or RedHat? ;-) |
| 18:51.28 | tarzeau | JordiGH: no, i mean UNIX |
| 18:51.36 | tarzeau | JordiGH: not some ugly linux raped software collection |
| 18:51.40 | tarzeau | JordiGH: that sells services |
| 18:52.02 | tarzeau | JordiGH: HP, SUN, SGI etc |
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| 18:52.15 | tarzeau | IBM, but ok,... it's raped in a different way |
| 18:52.44 | JordiGH | Ugh. |
| 18:52.45 | JordiGH | !rape |
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| 18:53.04 | tarzeau | JordiGH: you need to give a nickname after !rape |
| 18:53.11 | JordiGH | !rape me |
| 18:53.11 | dpkg | then that wouldn't be rape. |
| 18:53.20 | JordiGH | !rape yermom |
| 18:53.31 | tarzeau | !rape apt |
| 18:53.41 | tarzeau | it used to work |
| 18:53.49 | JordiGH | Can't say I really like this usage of "rape". I'm glad it's disabled. |
| 18:53.58 | vin` | !bear JordiGH |
| 18:54.08 | JordiGH | Mauling is fine. Rape isn't. |
| 18:54.09 | karl | stew will this kernel have via686a support linux-image-2.6.18-1-686 |
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| 18:54.15 | stew | karl: yes |
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| 18:55.13 | karl | stew god, ist doesn't install it, just initialises the database and thats it |
| 18:55.31 | JordiGH | "Solutions". Goddamnit, software isn't a "solution". A computer is not a "solution". |
| 18:55.41 | stew | karl: huh? |
| 18:56.05 | tarzeau | JordiGH: are you referring to me? |
| 18:56.19 | karl | stew and when i searcah forthat kernel aptitude shows me that it is installed, |
| 18:56.20 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Sort of. Visual numerics. Anyways, what is IDL? |
| 18:56.26 | JordiGH | Do I need to use teh Google? |
| 18:56.39 | karl | stew maybe it has no via686a support |
| 18:56.49 | stew | karl: it does |
| 18:57.06 | tarzeau | JordiGH: yes |
| 18:57.09 | karl | stew there is also a file named like this |
| 18:57.17 | tarzeau | JordiGH: since i don't use it myself really, i just package it and install it |
| 18:57.32 | stew | karl: if it is installed, "find /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-686/ -name via686a.ko" would find the module |
| 18:57.35 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Did you see the Octaviz screenshots? What did you think?\ |
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| 18:58.05 | JordiGH | If this: http://www.vni.com/products/wave/pvwave/overview.html |
| 18:58.20 | JordiGH | is the best that PV-Wave has to offer, then it doesn't look all that much better than plplot. |
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| 18:59.16 | JordiGH | "IDL: Visual Information Solutions" AAARGGH!!!! :D |
| 18:59.54 | JordiGH | Dangnabit. Solution means "pay us money for us to give you closed source and unscientific proprietary software unfit for academic use." |
| 18:59.59 | jelly | Can "FAQ" be read the same way as "fuck"? |
| 19:00.11 | karl | stew: thats how i found it, it is installed, thank you very much, i'm just rebooting into the new kernel |
| 19:00.15 | tarzeau | JordiGH: yes i've seen them. well it's just 3d plots |
| 19:00.20 | d0uglas | woah what did i miss jelly |
| 19:00.27 | JordiGH | jelly: I guess it depends on your dialect of English. In mine, the A in FAQ is different from the u in fuck. |
| 19:00.33 | pumpkin0 | jelly: depends on the quality of the data ... |
| 19:00.35 | tarzeau | JordiGH: man, stop talking bullshit |
| 19:00.36 | joeyjones | any idea how i could use "echo \"1\" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamp" on debian? |
| 19:00.45 | karl | stew how large can the mmap cache be? |
| 19:00.48 | tarzeau | JordiGH: there exists software that's fine, pity it's not free software |
| 19:00.54 | tarzeau | JordiGH: but not all commercial software is crap |
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| 19:01.01 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Proprietary software is unscientific. Period. |
| 19:01.03 | tarzeau | JordiGH: it's used in a scientific way, at a scientific work place |
| 19:01.06 | tarzeau | JordiGH: BULLSHIT |
| 19:01.21 | JordiGH | tarzeau: If I can't see how it does whatever it does, then it's of no use for Science (tm). |
| 19:01.27 | JordiGH | It's not reproducible. |
| 19:01.32 | tarzeau | JordiGH: what scientist are you? |
| 19:01.35 | abrotman | joeyjones: just like that :) |
| 19:01.38 | tarzeau | JordiGH: it's used by astronomers here |
| 19:01.41 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Mathematician, applied. |
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| 19:01.49 | abrotman | astronomers aren't scientists! |
| 19:01.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: you mean astrology |
| 19:02.02 | unfo | hi again all, how can i make zsh 100% bash-compatible? |
| 19:02.07 | abrotman | no .. i said what i meant |
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| 19:02.10 | d0uglas | tarzeau: you mean scientology |
| 19:02.11 | wols_ | unfo: by running bash |
| 19:02.36 | unfo | wols_: but i want zsh's builtins. |
| 19:02.37 | tarzeau | oh well |
| 19:02.45 | tarzeau | it's weekend |
| 19:02.47 | wols_ | JordiGH: I can give you source but still keep copyright fully, meaning proprietary software |
| 19:02.54 | d0uglas | !scientology |
| 19:02.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, scientology is a mental disorder :) |
| 19:03.02 | d0uglas | that is not very sensitive |
| 19:03.07 | tarzeau | wols_: depends on the license really |
| 19:03.08 | wols_ | but true |
| 19:03.16 | unfo | dpkg: forget scientology |
| 19:03.16 | dpkg | i forgot scientology, unfo |
| 19:03.16 | tarzeau | wols_: you can keep copyright and still make it free software |
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| 19:03.18 | JordiGH | wols_: Then I can't build upon your science either. Why don't you copyright the Pythagorean theorem while you're at it? ;-) |
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| 19:03.29 | jelly | pumpkin0: We've been analyzing performance problems of a certain opensource CMS the better part of the day. I'm inclined to read the title of a thread at http://ez.no/community/forum/general as "eZ publish performance optimisation -- fuck" |
| 19:03.35 | wols_ | tarzeau: not fully since I allow others to redistribute |
| 19:03.46 | karl | stew do you know lm-sensors? |
| 19:04.07 | wols_ | JordiGH: that's a theorem. unless you're in the US, you can't protect it (patents there) |
| 19:04.27 | omry | tralala, fyi, the problem with the fonts was that my nvidia driver needed to be upgraded after the xorg upgrade. |
| 19:04.30 | wols_ | JordiGH: all your mathematics books are copyrighted. are they useless too for you? |
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| 19:04.43 | abrotman | books suck .. watch tv! |
| 19:04.46 | wols_ | karl: never ask to ask. just ask your problem |
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| 19:05.10 | cydork | !barb abrotman |
| 19:05.29 | cydork | !be a reading barbie abrotman |
| 19:05.35 | JordiGH | The following extract from the TeXmacs documentation is relevant: http://digana.livejournal.com/38210.html |
| 19:05.38 | cydork | bahhh |
| 19:05.57 | karl | wols_ you are right, i just installed a new kernel in order to have the module via686a for lm-sensors, know i start lm-sensors but still it says no sensors detected, install all modules |
| 19:06.05 | stew | joeyjones: man sysctl.conf ; man sysctl |
| 19:06.16 | zinx | !be a botabuse barbie |
| 19:06.16 | dpkg | Aww, botabuse is HARD! Let's go shopping, zinx |
| 19:06.47 | JordiGH | wols_: Copyrights with maths books are a problem too. CC licenses are catching up, and I really approve of what people like Milne are doing: http://www.jmilne.org/math/CourseNotes/index.html |
| 19:06.51 | stew | karl: mmap can be vary large, but there is no reason to do that really. if you are having to increase it, its probably a sign that you should just drop some of the redundant or unnecessarly sources from sources.list |
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| 19:07.05 | stew | karl: i know what lm-sensors is but haven't ever bothered to use it |
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| 19:07.28 | JordiGH | wols_: With our mathematics written in LaTeX and distributed online, it's becoming less and less relevant to use copyright to cover the costs of printing a mathematical text. Nobody writes mathematics to get rich anyways. |
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| 19:07.42 | Cometo | Wie soll ich meine 120 GB HD paritionieren? Ich will eine seperate home einrichten. Wie gross sollte / sein? |
| 19:07.56 | JordiGH | !d3 |
| 19:07.57 | JordiGH | !de |
| 19:07.58 | dpkg | de is, like, Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
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| 19:08.29 | cyzie | i lost my password for irc, how do i recover it ? |
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| 19:09.10 | Cometo | ah sorry! How should i partition my 120 GB harddrive? I want an extra home partition. Which size shall i chose for / |
| 19:09.27 | unfo | Cometo: 10 GB |
| 19:09.39 | d0uglas | after kismet or whichever app i'm using during my war walks collects more than a few hundred aps things start to slow down and eventually lock up. Could that be a broadcom thing? |
| 19:09.52 | karl | how do i find out the public key of a backport site likedebian-multimedi.org? |
| 19:09.57 | Cometo | thx |
| 19:09.59 | JordiGH | unfo: Wow, that's generous. Debian fits in like 4 gigs on mine, even when I get greedy and install almost everything I can think of. |
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| 19:10.06 | unfo | JordiGH: youre right |
| 19:10.11 | unfo | Cometo: maybe less. |
| 19:10.45 | Tallu | I have 10gb for mine, but I suppose I could do with 5, especially if I have /tmp mounted elsewhere |
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| 19:11.35 | JordiGH | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:12.11 | Cometo | thx |
| 19:12.12 | quintin_ | What should I install to be able to serve X sessions over VNC on my server? |
| 19:12.18 | quintin_ | I basically just need vlc to run on it |
| 19:12.18 | d0uglas | i can get nero to crank out an svcd from a divx file in about five hours, but with ffmpeg on the same file with similar hardware it's a >10 hour operation. What gives? |
| 19:12.38 | quintin_ | d0uglas: being encoded differently |
| 19:12.51 | quintin_ | d0uglas: do you notice much of a quality difference between the two files? |
| 19:13.01 | d0uglas | haven't looked.. i'll check that out |
| 19:13.38 | cybermike | Is it a common problem that the installation of etch halts when i gets to "Storing language..." 5% ? |
| 19:13.53 | d0uglas | my solution has been to take the nero image and use nrg2iso which doesn't take long but i'd like to phase msft out of the picture entirelly |
| 19:14.01 | d0uglas | s/entirelly/entirely |
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| 19:14.57 | robin_sz | hmmm. ndiswrapper failed to compile sigh ... |
| 19:15.13 | quintin_ | robin_sz: why not install the package? |
| 19:15.16 | d0uglas | to compile itself or something else? |
| 19:15.23 | Cometo | how can i start an expert installation for debin? Which is the cheat code for expert? |
| 19:15.33 | d0uglas | expert |
| 19:15.37 | quintin_ | Cometo: look at the help on the boot disc? |
| 19:15.37 | Cometo | lol |
| 19:15.38 | robin_sz | quintin_ because there isn't a package for the kernel im using? |
| 19:15.42 | Cometo | thx |
| 19:15.44 | d0uglas | ... or expert_gui or whatever for the ironic version |
| 19:15.44 | quintin_ | robin_sz: mhm. |
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| 19:15.49 | quintin_ | robin_sz: well don't do that then! |
| 19:16.19 | robin_sz | quintin_: its a debian kernel |
| 19:16.29 | robin_sz | 2.6.14 |
| 19:17.02 | robin_sz | looks like I'll have to install kernel 2.8.2 instead |
| 19:17.08 | quintin_ | robin_sz: you haven't compiled your own kernel? so if you use the 2.6 on an install disc you can't use ndiswrapper? That's kind of screwy |
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| 19:17.48 | wols_ | JordiGH: that they don't write them "to get rich" is not the point. the point it's proprietary information you can't copy and redistribute, so by your admission "worthless" for you |
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| 19:18.47 | unfo | all: repeat: how can i make zsh be 100% bash-compatible, just with more builtins? |
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| 19:19.32 | robin_sz | unfo: is 100% bash compatible very important? |
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| 19:19.45 | dusk | hello friends |
| 19:19.51 | c00lfon | hi |
| 19:20.04 | stew | unfo: you cannot. can you be specific about what incompatibilities you want to address? |
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| 19:20.21 | cyzie | how do i change my hdd id type to FD ? |
| 19:20.33 | unfo | stew: too many to list :) |
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| 19:20.52 | robin_sz | unfo: there is a 100% compatible thing |
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| 19:21.53 | pumpkin0 | cyzie: use cfdisk. |
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| 19:21.58 | unfo | cyzie: please tell us what you're really trying to do. tell us the big picture. |
| 19:22.07 | d0uglas | can i get ssh to send null packets or whatever every now and then so i can idle all i want or what |
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| 19:22.21 | cyzie | unfo, http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm // step 2 is what im doing |
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| 19:23.06 | robin_sz | unfo: if you want 100% compatability, use bash. |
| 19:23.23 | pumpkin0 | d0uglas: man ssh_config => TCPKeepAlive |
| 19:23.38 | hkais | hi |
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| 19:23.53 | stew | d0uglas: man ssh_config ; and search for keepalive, you'll find lots of info in there. i know others that have changed their screenrc to make it have a statusbar with a clock, which also keeps the connection alive |
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| 19:24.31 | unfo | robin_sz: :/ i wish it were bash-compatible. perhaps one day it could even become the default shell on some distro like gentoo. then eventually on debian. :) |
| 19:24.40 | dusk | zsh |
| 19:24.41 | hkais | how to find out which facilty postfix, amavis, cron and so on is using? |
| 19:25.04 | wols_ | facility? |
| 19:25.11 | hkais | syslog |
| 19:25.32 | wols_ | mail |
| 19:25.54 | hkais | but how can i find it out? |
| 19:26.01 | stew | unfo: why would bash compatibility matter? which bash incompatibility, for example, would make a difference that would make it inappropriate as a default shell? |
| 19:26.02 | hkais | also cron? |
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| 19:26.53 | wols_ | cron uses syslog |
| 19:27.14 | stew | they all use syslog, he was asking which syslog facility |
| 19:27.20 | stew | of which cron uses cron, postfix uses mail |
| 19:27.24 | unfo | stew: tab completion's aggressiveness, for one |
| 19:27.24 | hkais | wols_: my question was how to determine which facility a deamon is using? how to find it out? |
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| 19:28.03 | wols_ | postfix using mail is quite reasonable no? |
| 19:28.20 | cyzie | anyone here experience with mdadm (software raid) ?? |
| 19:28.20 | unfo | people's finger muscles are accustomed to bash's tab completion behavior. when zsh starts typing suggested completions on the command line, it's disconcerting to me. |
| 19:28.28 | unfo | and i bet to other bash fans too. |
| 19:28.28 | wols_ | cyzie: don't ask to ask |
| 19:28.43 | hkais | wols_: sure, but anyway is there a way to find it out, e.g. cmdline? |
| 19:28.51 | wols_ | yes: read source |
| 19:29.09 | unfo | reading C source is not as hard as you think. |
| 19:29.59 | unfo | and reading script (e.g. Python) source is even easier. |
| 19:30.02 | stew | unfo: all of that can be easily turned off |
| 19:30.04 | stew | afaik |
| 19:30.07 | d0uglas | how can i get aview to be intigrated into lynx? man, that would be so badass |
| 19:30.32 | cuse | Hi! Does anybody know where to place a Windows driver for CUPS on a SAMBA print server? |
| 19:30.53 | concept10 | whats the big deal with the real time extensions in the 2.6.18 kernel? |
| 19:31.52 | d0uglas | cuse: you mean the windows drivers for the printers themselves right |
| 19:31.54 | unfo | stew: maybe i should file a bug requesting zsh's startup screen should offer a bash-compatibility option prominently near the top of the screen? |
| 19:32.08 | stew | unfo: i don't see why you would want that |
| 19:32.19 | stew | unfo: if you want bash compatibility, ues bash |
| 19:32.36 | unfo | it would be a step towards getting more people to switch to zsh :) |
| 19:33.08 | d0uglas | unfo: which is less whack, zsh or tcsh? |
| 19:33.20 | stew | unfo: why do you care if people switch to zsh? |
| 19:33.21 | unfo | zsh rules |
| 19:33.45 | unfo | it is full of useful features. the only problem is it's large. |
| 19:33.52 | unfo | d0uglas: lynx already calls imagemagick's display(1) when you click on a link to a jpeg |
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| 19:34.39 | d0uglas | unfo: that's not what my girlfriend said |
| 19:34.57 | d0uglas | s/girlfriend/ex-girlfriend |
| 19:35.42 | unfo | d0uglas: assuming she has imagemagick installed, and she clicked on a /link to a jpeg/, i dunno. |
| 19:36.00 | d0uglas | unfo i was referring to your previous comment |
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| 19:36.11 | d0uglas | ... nevermind it wasn't even that funny now that i think about it |
| 19:36.28 | tralala | s/that// |
| 19:36.43 | d0uglas | hah yeah i know |
| 19:36.55 | d0uglas | i love s/ syntax humor |
| 19:36.59 | unfo | tralala: why rub it in? |
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| 19:37.38 | tralala | because "that funny" means that it was at least somewhat funny |
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| 19:38.26 | d0uglas | ok i got it |
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| 19:40.52 | mrak | Hi people |
| 19:41.08 | mrak | Is there a way to install older package version from "unstable" distribution? |
| 19:42.55 | tralala | !s.d.n |
| 19:42.56 | dpkg | well, s.d.n is snapshot.debian.net, Your #1 source for pulled Debian packages! |
| 19:42.56 | d0uglas | unfo: i've got lynx, i've got aview, imagemagick too.. but lynx http://google.com/intl/en/images/logo.gif just offers to download the file and suggests a name |
| 19:42.56 | tralala | d0uglas, he left |
| 19:42.56 | d0uglas | damn. |
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| 19:43.53 | d0uglas | hey firefishe: what's your isp bill and how much bandwidth do you get? |
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| 19:44.15 | Firefishe | d0uglas: why do you ask? |
| 19:44.21 | abrotman | d0uglas: what is it with you and taking stupid polls ? |
| 19:44.54 | d0uglas | not sure but i'll lay off of it |
| 19:45.03 | Firefishe | tell you what, help me with my xorg/debian 3.1/testing issue and I'll answer your question ;) |
| 19:45.28 | abrotman | oh .. this should be good :) |
| 19:45.29 | pumpkin0 | Firefishe: tell us about it ... |
| 19:45.42 | d0uglas | no way this one's mine |
| 19:45.50 | tralala | xorg/debian 3.1/testing... now that sounds like an interesting thought |
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| 19:46.05 | wols_ | sounds like a nightmare to me |
| 19:46.11 | Firefishe | hi pumpkin0...thank you for the help last night. |
| 19:46.28 | Firefishe | and everyone, as always, of course :) |
| 19:46.32 | pumpkin0 | Firefishe: uhm ... are you sure it was me ? |
| 19:46.33 | Firefishe | I just can't start my xserver |
| 19:46.57 | Firefishe | ya...your nick, anyway...you get a lot of people, no probs |
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| 19:47.15 | d0uglas | what kind of error, fire? |
| 19:47.30 | abrotman | Firefishe: have you looked in your X log ? |
| 19:47.33 | pumpkin0 | Firefishe: well ... upload the config and log (again) ... |
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| 19:48.03 | d0uglas | the canadians have a lock on the pastebin market |
| 19:48.18 | d0uglas | according to a netcraft confirmation |
| 19:48.40 | Firefishe | abrotman: yes. the xserver is having a problem finding it's core pointer device, which, in my case, seems to be a conflict between my synaptics touchpad on my laptop and the ps/2 mouse port/module or something |
| 19:48.57 | sparr | Can anyone recommend an image/animation editor for linux that will allow me to specify GIF frame disposal methods 1 and 3? |
| 19:49.16 | abrotman | Firefishe: is the mousedev module loaded ? |
| 19:49.26 | abrotman | sparr: try them all ? |
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| 19:49.41 | Firefishe | abrotman: just a sec, let me check...lappie is in front of me |
| 19:49.42 | sparr | abrotman: thats a lot of editors :-p |
| 19:49.43 | d0uglas | sparr: mess with GAP yet? |
| 19:49.54 | sparr | d0uglas: no, i havent. plain GIMP cant do it though |
| 19:50.04 | abrotman | sparr: synfig ? |
| 19:50.11 | abrotman | though .. ti's not really an image editor |
| 19:50.14 | sparr | synfig cannot |
| 19:50.19 | abrotman | cinerella? |
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| 19:50.21 | abrotman | kino ? |
| 19:50.26 | abrotman | ask ##linux ? |
| 19:50.33 | Firefishe | abrotman: no, it's not. psmouse is, though |
| 19:50.37 | tralala | tell me about enter? |
| 19:50.48 | abrotman | !mousedev |
| 19:50.49 | dpkg | This is the driver you most likely want to use. `echo "mousedev" >> /etc/modules && modprobe mousedev` .. Choose /dev/input/mice when you reconfigure X. |
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| 19:51.06 | abrotman | tralala: don't you already know ? |
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| 19:51.19 | IRSSIUser | Hello. |
| 19:51.20 | Firefishe | abrotman: thanks. I"ll go ahead and do that. brb |
| 19:51.26 | d0uglas | sparr: http://goof.com/pcg/man/Gimp/Fu.html |
| 19:51.26 | tralala | abrotman, do you really have to ask? |
| 19:51.41 | d0uglas | i think i nailed it |
| 19:51.44 | tremor | enter .. a nice button on most keyboards .. is this the explanation you were looking for? |
| 19:51.45 | IRSSIUser | I screwed something up while trying to install the nVIDIA driver. |
| 19:52.01 | IRSSIUser | I changed xorg.conf like the manual said and ran the installer. |
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| 19:52.05 | IRSSIUser | When I rebooted, no X. |
| 19:52.12 | IRSSIUser | Can anyone help me out? |
| 19:52.21 | Feax | I installed the nvidia drivers, but when I try to launch kdm, there is a black screen :s |
| 19:52.29 | azeem | IRSSIUser: check the log at /var/log/X* |
| 19:52.33 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: so it's not working, huh |
| 19:52.34 | IRSSIUser | azeem: Ok |
| 19:53.07 | IRSSIUser | Fatal server error: No screens found |
| 19:53.21 | wols_ | IRSSIUser: look for "EE" |
| 19:53.23 | wols_ | not for this |
| 19:53.31 | tralala | IRSSIUser, is the kernel module loaded? |
| 19:53.47 | IRSSIUser | EE: No drivers available |
| 19:53.57 | IRSSIUser | Something went wrong. |
| 19:54.09 | IRSSIUser | Aha |
| 19:54.16 | wols_ | yes. what went wrong was you using the installer in the first place. answer tralala |
| 19:54.18 | IRSSIUser | Xorg 7.1.1 |
| 19:54.33 | cyzie | /dev/sda3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty |
| 19:54.33 | cyzie | /dev/sda4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty |
| 19:54.35 | cyzie | what does that mean? |
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| 19:54.43 | IRSSIUser | If I recall correctly, some special options need to be passed to the installer when you have Xorg 7.x |
| 19:54.46 | IRSSIUser | But I don't remember which |
| 19:54.52 | IRSSIUser | Could anyone please enlighten me? |
| 19:55.03 | wols_ | !tell IRSSIUser about nvidia |
| 19:55.14 | d0uglas | cyzie: is that your ipod? |
| 19:55.44 | cyzie | d0uglas, no, what made u said that? |
| 19:55.57 | d0uglas | the sdas |
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| 19:56.00 | d0uglas | nevermind |
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| 19:56.02 | wols_ | cyzie: only ipod users can be so clueless to paste in channels |
| 19:56.05 | Flosoft | hey |
| 19:56.10 | IRSSIUser | How do I ask the bot for nvidia one-liner? |
| 19:56.16 | d0uglas | zing |
| 19:56.16 | Flosoft | can someone explain me how I upgrade debian from 32bit to 64bit? |
| 19:56.22 | Flosoft | entirely? |
| 19:56.28 | wols_ | !teöö IRSSIUser about ask |
| 19:56.28 | dendrite | IRSSIUser: /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 19:56.29 | tralala | IRSSIUser, /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 19:56.33 | wols_ | Flosoft: reinstall |
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| 19:56.39 | IRSSIUser | thanks dendrite, tralala |
| 19:56.49 | Flosoft | wols_: well that is the problem ... I can't ;) |
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| 19:57.09 | tralala | Flosoft, you can't upgrade |
| 19:57.11 | robin_sz | so .. i finally managed to get my laptop to work with this wireless card ... |
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| 19:57.21 | Flosoft | I can do upgrade .... but no reinstall |
| 19:57.27 | wols_ | Flosoft: then I guess you have to make do without 64bit |
| 19:57.27 | robin_sz | I installed someting called "windows" .. |
| 19:57.31 | tralala | well, maybe you could but it would be a major pita |
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| 19:58.06 | Flosoft | :/ |
| 19:58.21 | Charminthemoose | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.22 | Charminthemoose | Charminthemoose Starting web server: apache failed |
| 19:58.22 | Charminthemoose | Charminthemoose invoke-rc.d: initscript apache, action "start" failed. |
| 19:58.22 | Charminthemoose | Charminthemoose anyone know why this is? |
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| 19:58.27 | d0uglas | robin_sz: what did you put in your sources.list to find that package?? |
| 19:58.28 | robin_sz | I suspect I will be back on Linux before the weekend is out ... nice to have the wireless thing working again though |
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| 19:58.50 | pumpkin0 | d0uglas: the package-name is "wine" |
| 19:58.59 | Charminthemoose | anyone? |
| 19:59.09 | robin_sz | Charminthemoose: is it already running? |
| 19:59.26 | dendrite | Charminthemoose: Any clues in the logs? |
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| 19:59.30 | Charminthemoose | when i try invoke-rc.d apache stop it says |
| 19:59.31 | robin_sz | Charminthemoose: is somehting else already listening on port 80? waht does netstat tell you |
| 19:59.35 | amonbish | dunno |
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| 19:59.40 | Charminthemoose | Stopping web server: apacheNo process in pidfile `/var/run/apache.pid' found running; none killed. |
| 19:59.48 | robin_sz | netstat -tuapn |
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| 20:00.05 | d0uglas | wtf is wrong with me, i can't get any work done because of this channel |
| 20:00.13 | robin_sz | slacker |
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| 20:00.37 | Tallu | d0uglas: you can always comfort yourself with the fact that if it wasnt this channel, it'd be something else.. :) |
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| 20:00.40 | d0uglas | i feel guilty, they don't pay me to be a douche on freenode |
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| 20:00.46 | d0uglas | yeah that's true |
| 20:00.52 | tralala | d0uglas, here's a command that will really boost your productivity - /part |
| 20:00.53 | Charminthemoose | yeah i have apache on 81 |
| 20:00.53 | robin_sz | Charminthemoose: so anyting else running on port 80 |
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| 20:01.09 | IRSSIUser | I can't find those options anywhere |
| 20:01.12 | Charminthemoose | 'cos i can't be arsed to fiddle around with my router settings |
| 20:01.23 | IRSSIUser | Could anyone help me out? Browsing the web with Lynx isn't exactly practical. |
| 20:01.32 | d0uglas | tralala: yeah right nice try the last time i /exec -o'ed something on irc i had to reinstall everything |
| 20:01.40 | nite613_ | I've inherited a broken machine where dpkg -l shows nothing but I'm sure it should be. Can I fix that? |
| 20:01.41 | robin_sz | Charminthemoose: well, if it cant bind to the port because something else already has, it cant start |
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| 20:01.45 | Cometo | hi |
| 20:01.55 | robin_sz | Charminthemoose: apachectl stop |
| 20:02.00 | IRSSIUser | Hello? :) |
| 20:02.06 | tralala | d0uglas, no this is for real |
| 20:02.08 | pumpkin0 | IRSSIUser: switch to the vesa-driver. That gives you X back (propably) |
| 20:02.17 | Cometo | what do i have to install to run fluxbox? which xserver package? x-server-core or x-server-commen?.... |
| 20:02.19 | Charminthemoose | /usr/sbin/apachectl stop: httpd (no pid file) not running |
| 20:02.28 | robin_sz | killall -9 apache |
| 20:02.32 | IRSSIUser | pumpkin0: Yeah.. I guess..but I just want this solved. :P |
| 20:02.39 | robin_sz | not pretty, but effective |
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| 20:02.48 | Charminthemoose | no process killed... |
| 20:02.52 | Charminthemoose | stupid apache |
| 20:03.08 | tralala | Charminthemoose, is it running at all? |
| 20:03.11 | robin_sz | well, what is running on port 81 then? |
| 20:03.15 | d0uglas | can i get killall to handle wildcards |
| 20:03.24 | nite613_ | Anyone? dpkg -l shows nothing. Can I fix it, or am I SOL? |
| 20:03.41 | Charminthemoose | nope |
| 20:03.44 | Charminthemoose | it's not. |
| 20:03.46 | robin_sz | well, what is running on port 81 then? |
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| 20:03.54 | tralala | nite613_, you're not running Fedora are you? |
| 20:03.54 | Charminthemoose | nothing is robin_sz |
| 20:04.00 | robin_sz | sigh |
| 20:04.31 | robin_sz | so when you said "yeah, I have apache on 81" you didnt mean that did you? |
| 20:04.40 | tralala | Charminthemoose, stopping an application that's not running is a _very_ difficult task even for the most powerful CPU/OS |
| 20:04.51 | Charminthemoose | hehe |
| 20:04.51 | robin_sz | yeah |
| 20:05.02 | robin_sz | you need a premptive kernel for that |
| 20:05.28 | Charminthemoose | when i said i have apache running on 81 i meant it's SUPPOSED to bind to port 81 |
| 20:05.43 | robin_sz | oh |
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| 20:06.00 | pumpkin0 | Charminthemoose: and the logs say ... ? |
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| 20:06.02 | robin_sz | well, what does /var/log/apache/error.log say |
| 20:06.45 | wols_ | IRSSIUser: we support the debian way(tm) of nvidia installing. |
| 20:07.00 | dendrite | Charminthemoose: So, did you check the logs yet? |
| 20:07.07 | Charminthemoose | i hyave |
| 20:07.22 | dendrite | Charminthemoose: Apache error log has no clues? |
| 20:07.24 | IRSSIUser | wols_: Yeah, but I've had a lot of trouble with that way in the past. Aside from these options I need to pass to the installer, I never had any problems with that method. |
| 20:07.25 | Charminthemoose | andrew@DownStairsComputer:/var/log/apache$ sudo cat error.log |
| 20:07.25 | Charminthemoose | [Fri Oct 27 20:52:07 2006] [notice] Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 20:07.40 | Charminthemoose | is the first/last entry |
| 20:07.44 | Charminthemoose | the latest one |
| 20:07.47 | Charminthemoose | i should say |
| 20:08.11 | IRSSIUser | wols_: But yeah... I guess I could give that a try too. Do I just install the packages or do I need to jump through hoops to get it done? |
| 20:08.24 | wols_ | !tell IRSSIUser about nvidia |
| 20:08.26 | Charminthemoose | nope sorry |
| 20:08.30 | Charminthemoose | i'm being an idiot |
| 20:08.32 | dendrite | Charminthemoose: Are you sure it's not running? Are there any other recently modified log files of note? |
| 20:08.39 | wols_ | of course you now have your "custom" install of it. might fuck things up |
| 20:09.12 | Charminthemoose | [Sat Oct 28 15:02:30 2006] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down |
| 20:09.14 | tralala | IRSSIUser, for some people following instructions seems to equal jumping through hoops so it's kind of difficult to answer this question |
| 20:09.17 | Charminthemoose | my date is a day fast. |
| 20:09.21 | stew | Charminthemoose: if you are getting an error from the init script, but don't know why, try adding a "set -x" to the second line of the initscript to see where it fails |
| 20:09.35 | IRSSIUser | tralala: Ok... sorry. |
| 20:10.12 | IRSSIUser | According to dpkg, I need the contrib and non-free repositories. I don't remember the addresses, anyone care to enlighten me? :) |
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| 20:10.42 | tralala | !contrib |
| 20:10.43 | dpkg | well, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 20:10.45 | Charminthemoose | stew,i have the output |
| 20:11.04 | Charminthemoose | andrew@DownStairsComputer:/etc/init.d$ sudo invoke-rc.d apache start |
| 20:11.04 | Charminthemoose | + trap '' 1 |
| 20:11.05 | Charminthemoose | + egrep -q -i '^[[:space:]]*ServerType[[:space:]]+inet' /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 20:11.05 | Charminthemoose | + should_start |
| 20:11.05 | Charminthemoose | + '[' '!' -x /usr/sbin/apache ']' |
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| 20:11.17 | Charminthemoose | + APACHECTL=env -i LANG=C PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/sbin/apachectl |
| 20:11.19 | Charminthemoose | + env -i LANG=C PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/sbin/apachectl configtest |
| 20:11.21 | Charminthemoose | + echo -n 'Starting web server: apache' |
| 20:11.21 | stew | Charminthemoose: stop |
| 20:11.23 | tralala | Charminthemoose, rafb.net/paste |
| 20:11.23 | Charminthemoose | Starting web server: apache+ env -i LANG=C PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin /sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /var/run/apache.pid --exec /usr/sbin/apache |
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| 20:11.26 | Charminthemoose | + '[' 1 -eq 0 ']' |
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| 20:11.28 | Charminthemoose | + echo ' failed' |
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| 20:11.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 20:11.43 | tralala | Charminthemoose, try again in 10 minutes, I guess |
| 20:12.08 | cosmodad | has anyone managed to compile and use the fuse module under 2.4.27-3? It used to work with -2 but I get a load of "unresolved symbols" errors when I try to modprobe with the newest sarge kernel. anyone? |
| 20:12.11 | tralala | in the mean time you can master the web pasting techniques |
| 20:12.15 | stew | dpkg: tell Charminthemoose about paste |
| 20:12.15 | Firefishe | abrotman: well, I got it working. I guess when I installed the gnome stuff, the synaptics touchpad module was deprecated somehow. I installed tpconfig, set it to reset the touchpad at boot time, rebooted, and all is well...so far ;) |
| 20:12.59 | abrotman | Firefishe: yay! |
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| 20:15.23 | IRSSIUser | Ok, this is getting confusing fast |
| 20:15.31 | IRSSIUser | dpkg is sort of contradicting itself |
| 20:15.46 | stew | IRSSIUser: how so? |
| 20:16.10 | IRSSIUser | Well, it tells me to get those packages from those repositories, but also tells me that they're not there. |
| 20:16.23 | IRSSIUser | I wish people would just tell me what commands to run :P |
| 20:16.26 | azeem | can you be more specific? |
| 20:16.32 | IRSSIUser | Yeah. |
| 20:16.33 | stew | IRSSIUser: are you running testing? |
| 20:16.36 | IRSSIUser | Etch, yes |
| 20:16.37 | azeem | like, which packages from which repositories |
| 20:16.58 | IRSSIUser | nvidia-glx, nvidia-something, nvidia-somethingelse... |
| 20:16.58 | stew | IRSSIUser: iirc the non-free nvidia stuff was temporarily removed from testing |
| 20:17.07 | wols_ | !etch nvidia |
| 20:17.07 | IRSSIUser | So how do I get it? |
| 20:17.08 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php Use something less than the -3 version of the 8756 driver to not have the dependency on Xorg 7. |
| 20:17.15 | tralala | IRSSIUser, deb http://yourmirror/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 20:17.20 | IRSSIUser | Ah brilliant... lynx again. |
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| 20:17.51 | Ronin | IRSSIUser: look at it as good practice in case x dies on you |
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| 20:18.04 | ohad | hi, what is the best way to duplicate my server? i want to migrate from one host to another but keep all my confs. i am going to a dedicated service |
| 20:18.08 | IRSSIUser | wols_, stew: Could one of you two do me a favour and download a package for me, then DCC-it to me? |
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| 20:18.22 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: I'd be happy to! |
| 20:18.23 | ohad | should i tar my entire server and then untar it on the other server? |
| 20:18.28 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Or you :P |
| 20:18.29 | ohad | what is the best way to go about it? |
| 20:18.35 | d0uglas | whatchya want |
| 20:18.36 | d0uglas | bitchx? |
| 20:18.39 | IRSSIUser | No, nvidia |
| 20:18.44 | IRSSIUser | !etch nvidia |
| 20:18.45 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php Use something less than the -3 version of the 8756 driver to not have the dependency on Xorg 7. |
| 20:18.51 | IRSSIUser | See what dpkg says ^^ |
| 20:18.56 | Kerr | !wget |
| 20:18.56 | dpkg | wget is probably an excellent file retrieval utility (HTTP and FTP) with many options, or the command `apt-get install wget wget-ssl` Winner of the greycat award for "Package Whose Man Page is Least Likely to be Read by Newbies". |
| 20:18.58 | tralala | IRSSIUser, yep let me dig out this botnet software of mine... |
| 20:19.01 | flail | I'm trying to build a .deb from a source package using dpkg-buildpackage, but I get the following error: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 12: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) - any ideas? |
| 20:19.13 | IRSSIUser | tralala: lol |
| 20:19.14 | flail | My long description has no invalid characters, as far as I am aware.. |
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| 20:19.19 | wols_ | flail: how about checking line 12? |
| 20:19.31 | Kerr | IRSSIUser: on the commandline wget http://whatever.whatever.whatever.file |
| 20:19.35 | Kerr | IRSSIUser: couldn't be easier |
| 20:19.39 | IRSSIUser | Kerr: Not quite |
| 20:19.43 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: which dist? |
| 20:19.45 | wols_ | Kerr: he doesn't know what file(s) |
| 20:19.45 | h3sp4wn | etch has xorg 7.1 in it so that nvidia factoid doesn't make sense |
| 20:19.56 | IRSSIUser | For some reason, my keyboard refuses to input the wavy -like key |
| 20:19.59 | tralala | d0uglas, focus man! |
| 20:20.01 | wols_ | h3sp4wn: it does. you can use a lter version from there |
| 20:20.08 | d0uglas | ohhhh |
| 20:20.11 | Tortel | ~ |
| 20:20.16 | h3sp4wn | wols_: use something less than -3 version ? |
| 20:20.21 | IRSSIUser | Tortel: I can't copy that now, I'm X-less |
| 20:20.29 | Tortel | ~! |
| 20:20.30 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, ! is what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass |
| 20:20.30 | wols_ | h3sp4wn: IF you run xorg 6.x |
| 20:20.36 | wols_ | since he doesn't, no need to do that |
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| 20:23.32 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: Hmm. You want stable or unstable? i'm not seeing testing. |
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| 20:25.03 | IRSSIUser | And installing gpm is too much of a hassle, I gotta get this computer running and finally go home. |
| 20:25.03 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: etch |
| 20:25.03 | IRSSIUser | Tell me which version so I can grab the nvidia-glx and such |
| 20:25.03 | IRSSIUser | So.. How are things in the Debian world? Still waging war with Mozilla? |
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| 20:25.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:25.50 | dendrite | IRSSIUser: No, we gave up. |
| 20:25.50 | IRSSIUser | Whoa... I guess my messages lagged a bit, and I was kicked. |
| 20:25.55 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: yeah i know, etch, but i'm only seeing stable or unstable, or experimental, there is no testing/etch |
| 20:25.57 | IRSSIUser | Did anyone say anything to me? |
| 20:26.08 | IRSSIUser | dendrite: How so? |
| 20:26.17 | IRSSIUser | Unstable then I guess |
| 20:26.25 | h3sp4wn | wols_: I still don't think its clear (even just build nvidia-graphic-drivers source from sid or experimental would be clearer) |
| 20:26.28 | dendrite | IRSSIUser: Mozilla can keep their artwork. |
| 20:26.34 | d0uglas | argh i already started stable when you got kicked |
| 20:26.34 | tralala | like that: |o| |
| 20:26.43 | d0uglas | you just had to get yourself kicked |
| 20:26.57 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Erm... don't blame me for the lag. :P |
| 20:27.11 | d0uglas | try stable first, hang on. got a few to give you. |
| 20:27.37 | IRSSIUser | dendrite: Yeah, I heard of IceWeasel, but I was thinking more of "Aside from that, has anything else happened?" |
| 20:27.51 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Never mind, stable then :) |
| 20:28.12 | d0uglas | god damnit, freenode wont let me.. |
| 20:28.15 | jzu_ | wohooo |
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| 20:28.17 | IRSSIUser | Man, my lag is huge. |
| 20:28.28 | IRSSIUser | Oh... I have to log in with freenode? |
| 20:28.31 | d0uglas | no |
| 20:28.34 | jzu_ | should I add another 1GB of memory to my sun ultra2? |
| 20:28.35 | d0uglas | i had to register i think |
| 20:28.41 | IRSSIUser | Ok |
| 20:28.44 | Ronin | register if you want to msg |
| 20:29.01 | abrotman | jzu_: can't hurt eh ? |
| 20:29.04 | IRSSIUser | jzu_: I guess that depends on what you need it for. Only you can decide that... |
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| 20:29.10 | jzu_ | it has 1.3GB atm :P |
| 20:29.18 | jzu_ | well, its small shell/www server |
| 20:29.26 | jzu_ | with 20-30 users |
| 20:29.27 | IRSSIUser | Probably unnecessary |
| 20:29.34 | jzu_ | 2x 300MHz UltraSPARC2 |
| 20:29.37 | IRSSIUser | But that's just my unprofessional opinion |
| 20:29.38 | jzu_ | but its so cheap |
| 20:29.42 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: anything pop up? |
| 20:29.44 | Ronin | can one ever have too much ram? |
| 20:29.45 | IRSSIUser | Though the CPU could use a serious upgrade |
| 20:29.58 | jzu_ | 40 euros incl. posting to Finland |
| 20:30.08 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Yeah |
| 20:30.11 | tralala | jzu_, it's even cheaper not to buy |
| 20:30.12 | jzu_ | IRSSIUser: its impossible to upgrade |
| 20:30.14 | IRSSIUser | But I don't know how to accept it |
| 20:30.17 | d0uglas | do those look like what you want? |
| 20:30.24 | IRSSIUser | Sure |
| 20:30.33 | d0uglas | Well, shoot. |
| 20:30.38 | jzu_ | tralala: yeah, true |
| 20:30.45 | jzu_ | oh well. |
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| 20:31.00 | d0uglas | how can i send this crap to you |
| 20:31.08 | IRSSIUser | Dunno, I haven't used IRSSI in years |
| 20:31.10 | jzu_ | maybe Ill buy it and add it same time with another hdd |
| 20:31.11 | d0uglas | you nonfree sheep |
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| 20:31.16 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: lol |
| 20:31.21 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: This isn't my computer |
| 20:31.24 | tralala | d0uglas, /help dcc |
| 20:31.29 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: I built and set it up for a friend |
| 20:31.37 | d0uglas | tralala: i'm not the one who can't accept the dcc |
| 20:31.51 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: what other protocols can we play with here |
| 20:32.08 | tralala | netcat it |
| 20:32.18 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Erm... If you have an ftp server with a very easy to type address, that too I guess |
| 20:32.23 | dendrite | d0uglas: smtp |
| 20:32.26 | d0uglas | fine, hang on |
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| 20:34.07 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: ftp://asdf:asdf@assambassador.com/nvidia-glx-dev_1.0.7174-3_i386.deb |
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| 20:34.50 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Could you please /msg it so it doesn't get lost as people join/leave all the time? |
| 20:34.53 | Feax | How can I share file with debian and windoze ? |
| 20:34.56 | d0uglas | all right |
| 20:34.57 | IRSSIUser | The addresses I mean |
| 20:35.03 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Thanks a lot :) |
| 20:35.16 | IRSSIUser | Feax: Via a network or locally? |
| 20:35.19 | d0uglas | hang on for the other two |
| 20:35.25 | IRSSIUser | ok |
| 20:35.29 | Feax | IRSSIUser: WIFI |
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| 20:35.37 | IRSSIUser | Feax: Samba perhaps? |
| 20:35.43 | Feax | IRSSIUser: okay |
| 20:35.43 | IRSSIUser | I got no idea really... just guessing |
| 20:35.49 | Feax | oki |
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| 20:36.09 | IRSSIUser | Trust me, you don't wanna trust me on wifi-related stuff. :P |
| 20:36.39 | hobophobe | Is there a program that tests for screen motion and if there is motion will poke the screensaver (keep it from turning on)? |
| 20:36.40 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: just get *deb in the directory |
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| 20:36.50 | d0uglas | three files |
| 20:36.50 | IRSSIUser | I don't, never have and probably never will use wireless. |
| 20:36.59 | d0uglas | or do you need the urls |
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| 20:37.06 | tralala | samba over wifi - an excelent way to have your windows zombyfied |
| 20:37.16 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: The URLs please. Or maybe the filenames will do... |
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| 20:38.07 | d0uglas | ok that should do it buddy |
| 20:38.12 | Charminthemoose | http://pastebin.ca/225189 is what i get when i type 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache start' anyone why? |
| 20:38.25 | Charminthemoose | *anyone know why? |
| 20:38.27 | d0uglas | enjoy the free shell, don't go crazy if you get root :) |
| 20:38.42 | Charminthemoose | i've checked the log files. |
| 20:38.49 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Thanks a lot for your help. :D |
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| 20:38.51 | Charminthemoose | there's nothing in them of relevence |
| 20:39.17 | d0uglas | my pleasure, hope it works out for you |
| 20:39.22 | IRSSIUser | So do I. :) |
| 20:39.26 | d0uglas | i've been spending a lot of time in ATI hell |
| 20:39.31 | d0uglas | so good luck with that |
| 20:39.58 | stew | Charminthemoose: try running the "/sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /var/run/apache.pid --exec /usr/sbin/apache" command by hand. that is the command that is ultimately failing |
| 20:40.11 | IRSSIUser | The only thing I find positive about ATi are the free r300 drivers. Aside from that, it's just nvidia + headache. Does it work good once it's set up by the way, d0uglas? |
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| 20:41.15 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Which port? wget is complaining. |
| 20:41.25 | d0uglas | 21 |
| 20:41.33 | IRSSIUser | Weird that it's complaining then |
| 20:41.53 | tralala | IRSSIUser, did you quote the url? |
| 20:41.58 | Charminthemoose | stew: THere's no error,but i can't get to 83.71.70.13:81 |
| 20:42.05 | Charminthemoose | 'tis strange |
| 20:42.06 | tralala | does wget do ftp at all? |
| 20:42.10 | stew | Charminthemoose: have you checked apache's error log? |
| 20:42.16 | d0uglas | i think so |
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| 20:42.46 | d0uglas | wget ftp://asdf:asdf@assambassador.com/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-3_i386.deb and so on works, IRSSIUser |
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| 20:43.24 | d0uglas | didn't realize you had wget, could have saved some time by just giving you the links on the debian site |
| 20:43.40 | IRSSIUser | Yeah. lol |
| 20:43.48 | d0uglas | also could have just tossed it in my doc root dir instead of posting a shell login and password |
| 20:43.59 | IRSSIUser | lol |
| 20:44.09 | IRSSIUser | Actually, could you move them there? |
| 20:44.10 | g333k_work | Hi, when are we be able to get firefox 2.0 from our repos? |
| 20:44.15 | IRSSIUser | wget is being an arse |
| 20:44.16 | d0uglas | oh well i'm running debian, nothing can happen |
| 20:44.19 | d0uglas | sure |
| 20:44.20 | g333k_work | I'm talking about ETch |
| 20:44.24 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Thanks |
| 20:44.27 | tralala | d0uglas, look at the bride side - you've probably been already pwn3d |
| 20:44.36 | tralala | bright |
| 20:44.38 | tralala | meh |
| 20:44.43 | Charminthemoose | stew:http://pastebin.ca/225239 |
| 20:44.45 | IRSSIUser | tralala: A: You probably mean bright. B: Nope. :P |
| 20:45.14 | IRSSIUser | At least not by me. :) |
| 20:45.17 | tralala | IRSSIUser, there are another 700+ users in this channel besides you, me and d0uglas |
| 20:45.24 | stew | Charminthemoose: the error is pretty clear there at the bottom |
| 20:45.27 | stew | Charminthemoose: apache: could not open error log file /etc/apache/logs/downstairscomputer.homelinux.net.log. |
| 20:45.30 | d0uglas | ok irssi, they're in the / directory |
| 20:45.34 | IRSSIUser | tralala: As I said, at least not by me. |
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| 20:45.42 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: so ambassador.com? |
| 20:45.49 | Charminthemoose | is that necessary?it's ran fine before |
| 20:45.51 | IRSSIUser | or? |
| 20:45.52 | tralala | and btw wget works with the ftp address |
| 20:45.57 | d0uglas | right |
| 20:46.21 | d0uglas | wget is understatedly elite |
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| 20:46.45 | d0uglas | wow i dont think we could have made this transfer any more complicated |
| 20:47.17 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: I concur |
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| 20:48.39 | IRSSIUser | Oh |
| 20:48.45 | IRSSIUser | Now I realize what my mistake was, d0uglas |
| 20:48.49 | IRSSIUser | It said assambassador |
| 20:48.57 | IRSSIUser | I automatically read ambassador |
| 20:49.12 | d0uglas | no.. i'm an ass man |
| 20:49.43 | IRSSIUser | lol |
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| 20:50.00 | IRSSIUser | can't log in as anonymous |
| 20:50.01 | icejam | hello! anyone please recommend me advanced console jabber client with ssl & gpg support |
| 20:50.22 | IRSSIUser | icejam: the new gaim beta with ncurses? |
| 20:50.25 | tralala | oh, dear |
| 20:50.29 | d0uglas | forget anonymous, just http://ass... |
| 20:50.30 | IRSSIUser | Don't know about the ssl and gpg part though |
| 20:50.35 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: |
| 20:50.36 | IRSSIUser | k |
| 20:51.00 | IRSSIUser | tralala: Hm? |
| 20:51.31 | tralala | IRSSIUser, apparently you've started going through hoops already |
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| 20:51.35 | h3sp4wn | icejam: Have you tried bltbee (makes everything appear as irc) |
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| 20:52.12 | IRSSIUser | d0uglas: Sorry to nag again, but it times out when trying to get headers. |
| 20:52.39 | IRSSIUser | Both lynx and wget. |
| 20:52.51 | IRSSIUser | I'm getting frustrated :( |
| 20:52.56 | azeem | does internet work in general? |
| 20:53.01 | azeem | does wget www.debian.org download something? |
| 20:53.09 | IRSSIUser | azeem: Yes... |
| 20:53.30 | IRSSIUser | I tried reading the Debian wiki in lynx not long ago, remember? |
| 20:53.31 | icejam | h3sp4wn: no, where can I get it? |
| 20:53.51 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: ok i'm using a different server hang on |
| 20:54.01 | IRSSIUser | k.. |
| 20:54.47 | d0uglas | IRSSIUser: http://users.cloud9.net/~douglas/[the debs] |
| 20:54.55 | xjkx | how about xgl thing?how do i install and make it work on kde? |
| 20:55.02 | IRSSIUser | Cloud9 |
| 20:55.07 | h3sp4wn | icejam: bitlbee (is the package name) its in sid and etch I know (don't know about sarge - if not maybe backports has it) |
| 20:55.11 | IRSSIUser | As in the guys who made The Tribe? |
| 20:55.20 | d0uglas | yeah.. and it works uncapitalized too to save you a stroke |
| 20:55.31 | IRSSIUser | ? |
| 20:55.32 | d0uglas | the tribe? never heard of it |
| 20:55.35 | IRSSIUser | Oh. |
| 20:55.39 | IRSSIUser | Never mind |
| 20:55.50 | IRSSIUser | It's a NZ TV show, made by a company called Cloud9, |
| 20:56.15 | d0uglas | cloud9.net's in new york |
| 20:56.38 | IRSSIUser | Yeah, it worked |
| 20:56.41 | xjkx | have anyone tried xgl?i dont know how to install, apt-get install xgl? |
| 20:56.43 | IRSSIUser | The first one is downloaded :D |
| 20:56.47 | d0uglas | Hooray! frickin hooray. |
| 20:56.53 | icejam | h3sp4wn: oh, ok, you misteked in a bit in one letter first time |
| 20:57.20 | h3sp4wn | icejam: yep |
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| 20:58.19 | phogg | bitlbee has been around forever. Sarge at least... I think it was in potato. |
| 20:58.34 | stew | !info bitlbee potato |
| 20:58.45 | phogg | guess not |
| 20:58.48 | stew | <dpkg> Package 'bitlbee' does not exist. |
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| 20:59.15 | icejam | stew: but it is |
| 20:59.46 | stew | icejam: that was referring specifically to potato which was 2 versions before the current stable |
| 21:00.16 | icejam | stew: oh, sorry |
| 21:03.00 | flail | I'm trying to build a .deb from a source package using dpkg-buildpackage, but I get the following error: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 12: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) - any ideas? |
| 21:03.07 | flail | My long description (line 12) has no invalid characters, as far as I am aware.. |
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| 21:07.40 | zmutte | hey, Isnt it possible to apt-get glib? |
| 21:07.40 | DogWater | Hi, how can I make debian autostart raid devices? does it read mdadm.conf? |
| 21:08.02 | Knorrie | DogWater: yes, mdadm.conf |
| 21:08.07 | DogWater | ok |
| 21:08.23 | icejam | h3sp4wn: thanks |
| 21:08.26 | abrotman | zmutte: libc6 ? |
| 21:09.09 | h3sp4wn | icejam: If you use irssi there is an autocomplete script for bitlbee commands somewhere |
| 21:12.08 | cybermike | Are there a tool to configure dualscreen with in debian 4.0? |
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| 21:12.23 | d0uglas | cybermike: xinerama, twinview |
| 21:12.35 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: for the console or X ? |
| 21:12.38 | d0uglas | .. well not sure if 4.0 makes any difference |
| 21:13.02 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: the only card I know which can do it for the console is mga - but there may be others |
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| 21:13.28 | d0uglas | hmm.. matrox.. never heard of them |
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| 21:13.33 | cybermike | h3sp4wn: just for x |
| 21:13.42 | d0uglas | does GL stuff work too with their stuff? |
| 21:13.44 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 21:13.49 | abrotman | older matrox cards |
| 21:13.49 | linuxpoet | If I want the latest current version of debian, do I download r3? |
| 21:13.54 | biz | can someone suggest me a real light-weight caching dns server focused on high speed? |
| 21:13.55 | abrotman | !wb resiak |
| 21:13.56 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! resiak has returned! |
| 21:14.06 | resiak | heh |
| 21:14.45 | cybermike | h3sp4wn: and i want a tool to avoid writing the config files myself |
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| 21:14.51 | resiak | abrotman: Report a bug at what severity? |
| 21:15.00 | d0uglas | linuxpoet: if you need to ask how to download the latest current version, you shouldn't be running the latest current version |
| 21:15.19 | d0uglas | :P get http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 21:15.26 | abrotman | resiak: normal i'd guess .. not a show stopper .. just freaking stupid |
| 21:15.31 | resiak | yeah |
| 21:15.32 | d0uglas | one of the businesscard isos, the dailys are on the bottom |
| 21:15.44 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: with nvidia cards nvidia-xconfig can do it (don't use nvidia anymore so it may not be the exact right name) |
| 21:15.48 | resiak | Guh, repeating the command appears to have Just Worked |
| 21:15.56 | abrotman | resiak: maybe important ? |
| 21:15.59 | peterrooney | d0uglas: you owe me a new keyboard. |
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| 21:16.21 | d0uglas | what did i say |
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| 21:16.25 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: I think fglrx does a similar thing for newer ati cards (don't think there is any automatic way to do it for older cards though - well that I know of) |
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| 21:16.54 | d0uglas | cybermike: twinview is for nvidia i think |
| 21:17.04 | d0uglas | xinerama for everything else |
| 21:17.26 | Niklas | Hi. I need to configure a VPN client to connect to a VPN server called Relakks. All the information i have about this connection is the ip of the server, pre shared key, using 3des as encryption and username/password. It's using ipsec/l2tp - i need some advice to configure it |
| 21:17.46 | peterrooney | d0uglas: one with less coffee on it. |
| 21:17.47 | cybermike | d0uglas: twinview is to my knowledge not a tool to configure your system with, but a method of doing it |
| 21:18.08 | d0uglas | !nvidia twinview |
| 21:18.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia twinview is sharing 2 screens (scr, tv what so ever) on you nvidia card you need to have the nvidia driver installed (ask nvidia) and read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ READMY and example script |
| 21:18.30 | d0uglas | well i've maxed out my knowledge on this one man |
| 21:18.36 | resiak | woah, what happened to Real English in dpkg factoids?! |
| 21:18.47 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: the tool is nvidia-xconfig |
| 21:18.58 | zmutte | abrotman hmm, I am trying to compile a module (fish-module) for irssi, and it requries glib, cannot see how to change such that the libc6 can work instead |
| 21:19.01 | d0uglas | peterrooney i'd be happy to paypal you the cash but i wish i knew how i got the coffee on your keys |
| 21:19.02 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: in the --advanced options |
| 21:19.15 | abrotman | !glib |
| 21:19.15 | dpkg | The GLib library of C routines. URL: http://www.gtk.org/ |
| 21:19.17 | zmutte | abrotman I don't know where libc6 files exist, only thing I find is doc-files |
| 21:19.30 | abrotman | libc6 is a package . intall libc6-dev .. or show us the *actual* error |
| 21:19.38 | zmutte | it is installed.. |
| 21:19.52 | cybermike | h3sp4wn: yea but im not using the propriotary drivers :) |
| 21:20.14 | nite613_ | tralala: Sorry, I disappeared for a long time. I asked about rebuilding the dpkg list, and no, it's not fedora. It's a sarge install that was savagely beaten to fit into 64. |
| 21:20.22 | odla | what's the command to run to reconfigure my preferences? i want emacs to be set as my preferential editor |
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| 21:20.38 | nite613_ | dpkg -l shows no packages :( |
| 21:20.39 | dpkg | ii shows no packages :( 1.9-14.2 nite613_'s private stamp collection |
| 21:21.00 | h3sp4wn | cybermike: Well do it manually then |
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| 21:22.37 | tralala | nite613_, explain " savagely beaten to fit into 64" |
| 21:22.59 | nite613_ | I think the previous owner of this install went on an rm'ing spree in order to fit it onto a flash card. |
| 21:23.12 | d0uglas | 64 sounds suspiciously divisable by eight |
| 21:23.21 | stew | nite613_: 64 megabytes? |
| 21:23.31 | nite613_ | yes |
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| 21:24.03 | nite613_ | It was a base sarge install with a couple extra packages and then some chopping to fit into 64M. I need to add a package to it, now, though |
| 21:24.08 | stew | the base packages alone for debian are somewhre around 200-250 |
| 21:24.35 | nite613_ | Well I'd love to tell you everything he deleted, but it's gone ;) |
| 21:24.58 | d0uglas | nite613_: you may be a minix candidate |
| 21:25.21 | stew | nite613_: is there a /var/lib/dpkg/status? if not is there a status file in /var/backups? |
| 21:25.43 | nite613_ | d0uglas: Oh yeah, if I had my choice I'd do things a bit differently, but I'm taking over an existing project |
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| 21:26.14 | d0uglas | how can i get things i highlight on the console with gpm in the clipboard accessible to things in x? .. and while i'm on the subject, from certain x apps to others? using kde |
| 21:26.25 | nite613_ | stew: there is no /var/lib/dpkg/status. Can it be rebiuld some how? |
| 21:26.38 | stew | nite613_: /msg dpkg very fubar status file |
| 21:27.18 | nite613_ | wicked, thanks as always stew. |
| 21:27.35 | nite613_ | d'oh! |
| 21:27.45 | d0uglas | man stew you really know how to talk to dpkg |
| 21:27.47 | nite613_ | It's a nifty idea, but the docs were probably the first thing that were rm'd |
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| 21:27.59 | nite613_ | :( no /usr/share/docs |
| 21:28.03 | Snake | !sex |
| 21:28.03 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 21:28.06 | simonrvn | doc, not docs |
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| 21:28.22 | d0uglas | dpkg is definitely not PG rated |
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| 21:28.31 | simonrvn | never has ;) |
| 21:28.35 | d0uglas | even with the technical inuendo |
| 21:28.47 | stew | nite613_: construct a similar command from files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 21:28.54 | abrotman | why do people think that's funny ? |
| 21:28.57 | nite613_ | simonrvn: Yes yes, doc, it's gone |
| 21:29.09 | simonrvn | oh, I see. |
| 21:29.13 | nite613_ | stew: That one will work! Thank you! |
| 21:29.21 | nite613_ | Awesome |
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| 21:30.34 | d0uglas | condoms have config files? |
| 21:30.34 | stew | nite613_: note that there maybe files in there for packages which were removed not purged |
| 21:30.34 | simonrvn | more like READMEs |
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| 21:30.35 | d0uglas | heh |
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| 21:31.15 | nite613_ | stew: Okay, well it's a start anywaysx |
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| 21:32.19 | g3brown | I have a sarge setup for samba, dhcpd, ftp, and apache. I want to change the ip of the server. I know I have to change 'etc/network/interfaces' and the info in my dhcpd.conf file. Is there any other issues associated with changed the ip address? |
| 21:32.22 | cyzie | !seen peterS |
| 21:32.23 | dpkg | peters is currently on #debian, last said: 'agreed'. |
| 21:32.41 | cyzie | peterS, u there? |
| 21:32.43 | d0uglas | do .m4as have drm built in? gotta move some lady's library from one hd to another and i have a feeling the import won't go smoothly |
| 21:32.45 | peterS | agreed. |
| 21:32.52 | nite613_ | haha |
| 21:32.58 | cyzie | hehe :D peterS is here |
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| 21:33.35 | d0uglas | maybe dvd jon's new invention will help me |
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| 21:35.06 | cyzie | peterS, im not sure if you are the one that help me setup LVM before. |
| 21:35.09 | concept10 | has anyone compiled and tried the 2.6.18 kernel? im hearing that the real time extensions improve performance |
| 21:35.12 | cyzie | i think a while back |
| 21:35.29 | peterS | cyzie: it's possible, I've done that sort of thing from time to time |
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| 21:36.19 | cyzie | peterS, do you have experience with software raid ? |
| 21:36.28 | izzyb | is there a way to tell what driver is being used for a given eth port? |
| 21:36.46 | Stevie[FP] | you could grep dmesg :D |
| 21:37.22 | peterS | cyzie: the way this channel works is, we start answering questions when we hear useful questions. I can't imagine why you would possibly need to know whether I have experience with software raid. I'm guessing your real question is something else. |
| 21:37.37 | Stevie[FP] | izzyb: /usr/sbin/ethtool -i eth0 |
| 21:37.51 | Stevie[FP] | must be root (and must have ethtool package, of course) |
| 21:37.52 | simonrvn | peterS: oh, i'm running this thing off lvm, even lvm root. pretty neat. jfs based. |
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| 21:38.04 | d0uglas | holy moley i'm getting > 900kB/s on my office network.. i need to stay here past 5 on fridays more often |
| 21:38.11 | Stevie[FP] | haha |
| 21:38.17 | Stevie[FP] | Wait |
| 21:38.19 | cyzie | peterS, yes, i woudl like to setup raid 1 on my OS. i just lost 80GB . but i need a good howto. i have search through the web and so far im not confident on those |
| 21:38.27 | d0uglas | didn't know my adapter went this fast |
| 21:38.36 | peterS | d0uglas: 900 kB/s is not very fast for an office network. you should be able to talk 7 or 8 MB/s on a 100Mbit LAN |
| 21:38.39 | simonrvn | peterS: the lvm root was accidental, so i juts went along with it instead of starting over =) |
| 21:38.39 | Stevie[FP] | That's 7.3MBps |
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| 21:38.47 | izzyb | hmm, don't seem to have ethtool, but dmesg helped thanks Stevie[FP] |
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| 21:38.48 | d0uglas | peterS: i'm talking about gnutella |
| 21:38.52 | Zicho | hello |
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| 21:39.01 | Zicho | i have a problem with KDE, can someone help me_ |
| 21:39.05 | Zicho | ? |
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| 21:39.15 | azeem | Zicho: be more specific |
| 21:39.20 | simonrvn | Zicho: just spit it out, someone will help you shortly |
| 21:39.21 | odla | gee the guys at Mozilla are so lame |
| 21:39.24 | Stevie[FP] | the main problem with ethtool is that for half the interesting stuff ethtool has, drivers don't support |
| 21:39.24 | Red_Herring | HEY GUYS I GOT A QUESTION ON UBUNTU! |
| 21:39.26 | Red_Herring | :-P |
| 21:39.31 | Stevie[FP] | Hey! |
| 21:39.34 | peterS | Red_Herring: it's just like Debain |
| 21:39.41 | Freddie | I know who the alien monster is! |
| 21:39.43 | d0uglas | Red_Herring: that's okay because debian's based on it! |
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| 21:39.52 | Freddie | It's actually... Red_Herring in disguise! |
| 21:39.57 | Red_Herring | wait, i dont get stabbed? |
| 21:40.04 | simonrvn | !stab Red_Herring |
| 21:40.10 | Red_Herring | THERE we go |
| 21:40.12 | Stevie[FP] | !smite Red_Herring |
| 21:40.12 | simonrvn | happy? =) |
| 21:40.15 | Zicho | Well, since im swedish i would love to have a swedish layout on my keyboard. I tried to change it in the layout options, but a swedish layout isn\t an option |
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| 21:40.26 | Red_Herring | ok your bot owns ubotu |
| 21:40.32 | simonrvn | Zicho: install the swedish locale support |
| 21:40.35 | Red_Herring | mostly cuz of |
| 21:40.37 | Red_Herring | !sex |
| 21:40.37 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 21:40.39 | Stevie[FP] | ubotu? is that a variation of ubuntu for running bots? |
| 21:40.44 | Zicho | simon> how? |
| 21:40.49 | Red_Herring | Stevie[FP]: thats #ubuntu's bot |
| 21:40.53 | azeem | Red_Herring: please stay on topic |
| 21:40.53 | simonrvn | ubotu is the #ubuntu bot IIRC |
| 21:40.57 | Red_Herring | ah fine |
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| 21:41.02 | Stevie[FP] | ah |
| 21:41.05 | peterS | Red_Herring: that joke used to have mold on it but then the mold died because they ate all the way through the joke and were left with no nutrients |
| 21:41.12 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 21:41.14 | odla | ubutthole? |
| 21:41.15 | Zicho | how do i install the swedish locale support? |
| 21:41.15 | Stevie[FP] | Apparently someone thought of the same bad pun as I did |
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| 21:41.26 | odla | !stab firefox |
| 21:41.36 | Stevie[FP] | I want Swedish Chef language support! |
| 21:41.44 | simonrvn | Zicho: apt-cache search swedish kde should give you the package name to install with apt-get install |
| 21:41.45 | d0uglas | blootbot?? i thought dpkg was a very smart, cooperative, witty and fast typing person |
| 21:41.49 | d0uglas | :( |
| 21:41.51 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: install 'filters' and use it manually then |
| 21:41.51 | Stevie[FP] | Daveman: manpage not found, a bork-a bork-a |
| 21:42.12 | Stevie[FP] | err |
| 21:42.13 | Stevie[FP] | man: manpage not found, a bork-a bork-a |
| 21:42.39 | peterS | pipe your programs through /usr/games/chef |
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| 21:43.36 | Stevie[FP] | stevie@daemonic:~$ apt-file search chef |
| 21:43.36 | Stevie[FP] | stevie@daemonic:~$ |
| 21:43.37 | odla | !swedish chef |
| 21:43.38 | dpkg | BORK! BORK! BORK! |
| 21:43.38 | Stevie[FP] | no chef :( |
| 21:43.39 | killown | then I try to run col linux I get error daemon: exit code 8806b801 daemon: error - CO_RC_ERROR_ERROR, line 430, file colinux/user/config.o (64) |
| 21:43.45 | killown | anyone can help -me? |
| 21:43.51 | Zicho | it just tells me that it is the last version |
| 21:43.58 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: apparently you haven't installed filters |
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| 21:45.15 | es0 | Once again, I find myself coming in here for help.. I believe I've got an "apt" database corruption problem. |
| 21:45.28 | es0 | When I execute "aptitude update" I get this: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. |
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| 21:45.47 | es0 | and I'm unable to install or remove anything. |
| 21:45.49 | peterS | es0: that seems to be a fairly straightforward error message |
| 21:45.49 | peterS | es0: what's your question |
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| 21:45.57 | Stevie[FP] | I believe his question is 'how do I fix this?' |
| 21:46.02 | peterS | oh, mkdir -p |
| 21:46.16 | es0 | Stevie[FP]. yes, that's it. |
| 21:46.21 | es0 | thanks. |
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| 21:46.55 | Stevie[FP] | just call me StevieTheTranslator. |
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| 21:47.09 | Stevie[FP] | or just Stevie, or Steve |
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| 21:47.41 | n2u | guys |
| 21:47.42 | azeem | es0: is that the only directory missing? |
| 21:47.43 | d0uglas | Stevie: with most irc clients it is very hard to address you just as Stevie |
| 21:47.57 | d0uglas | oh wait you got a stevie nick on |
| 21:48.04 | n2u | the latest wine version works fine on Debian 3.1sr2? |
| 21:48.10 | Zicho | how do you change your keyboard layout to iso-8859-1 from a terminal? |
| 21:48.14 | n2u | here don't works =/ |
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| 21:48.39 | es0 | azeem. that is the only directory missing. but I still have other problems. It started when I aborted an install of smbclient yesterday. |
| 21:48.44 | azeem | n2u: we need error messages in order to help you |
| 21:48.45 | Stevie[FP] | d0uglas: You didn't seem to have a problem ;-) |
| 21:48.56 | es0 | Now I've got a partially installed app that I can't reinstall, delete or do anything with. |
| 21:49.00 | azeem | es0: well, create the directory |
| 21:49.16 | azeem | but if you haven't removed it yourself, I suspect some bigger breakage |
| 21:49.18 | n2u | azeem: the error is "Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. |
| 21:49.18 | n2u | The X11 driver is missing. Check your build!" |
| 21:49.22 | es0 | azeem. I did. I can do the "update", but I still can't install, etc. |
| 21:49.26 | g333k_laptop | hello I'm in debian etch, and I want to connect a a shared directory in a windows xp box, do I have to configure something in samba or I just need to install it? |
| 21:49.43 | es0 | azeem. I think I removed it yesterday when I started snowballing this problem. |
| 21:49.46 | pelzi__ | you don't need either afaik |
| 21:49.50 | pelzi__ | mount -t cifs |
| 21:50.03 | d0uglas | my motd says 2.6.18-1-k7 #1 SMP but i am neither using an smp chip (athlon 2400+ xp (not mp)) nor did i install a -smp kernel or headers. What gives? |
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| 21:50.35 | n2u | azeem: the older version works fine |
| 21:50.58 | azeem | n2u: which older version? |
| 21:50.59 | es0 | azeem. I'm getting " Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal." |
| 21:51.17 | d0uglas | ahh well who cares... i'll move on |
| 21:51.18 | es0 | but I cant reinstall. |
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| 21:51.30 | n2u | azeem: I don't remeber... the version wich I installed trhough apt-get on Debian. |
| 21:51.36 | azeem | es0: run dpkg -i on the .deb |
| 21:51.44 | azeem | n2u: and what did you install now? |
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| 21:51.54 | azeem | n2u: what does "dpkg -l wine" say? |
| 21:51.54 | pelzi__ | d0uglas: please listen to what you are told. all new kernels are smp |
| 21:52.01 | Stevie[FP] | n2u: apt-cache policy wineorwhatever |
| 21:52.27 | Stevie[FP] | pelzi_: kernel needs to be SMP-capable to support preemption, right? |
| 21:52.51 | pelzi_ | no idea really, too tired to comment |
| 21:53.03 | evilbulgarian | anyone know where i can get the python-memcached deb packages? |
| 21:53.04 | es0 | azeem! you're a genius! It worked. Thanks. |
| 21:53.05 | n2u | azeem: Well, says "Installed: none" |
| 21:53.15 | n2u | I don't understand... |
| 21:53.28 | azeem | es0: eh, aptitude told you what was missing |
| 21:53.39 | azeem | I just reformulated it |
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| 21:53.44 | cydork | !worship azeem |
| 21:53.51 | d0uglas | <-- remembers the smp discussion, sorry 'bout that pelzi |
| 21:54.01 | smacnay | How does one sync two directories quickly? |
| 21:54.18 | Stevie[FP] | type really fast |
| 21:54.23 | n2u | What I do? |
| 21:54.49 | d0uglas | Stevie: that only works with dvorak keyboards |
| 21:54.49 | azeem | n2u: what does "which wine" say? |
| 21:55.37 | d0uglas | come on, that was funny. |
| 21:55.43 | d0uglas | Tough crowd :P |
| 21:55.54 | Miesco_ | How do I tell what program is using my sound card? |
| 21:56.02 | Stevie[FP] | fuser /dev/dsp |
| 21:56.04 | cydork | Miesco_, fuser? |
| 21:56.42 | n2u | say /usr/local/binwine |
| 21:56.48 | Stevie[FP] | /usr/local/binwine |
| 21:57.07 | azeem | n2u: there you go |
| 21:57.14 | Feax | !paster |
| 21:57.15 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 21:57.21 | azeem | n2u: this is not from Debian, we cannot support that |
| 21:57.32 | Stevie[FP] | how's this for a quote? |
| 21:57.35 | Stevie[FP] | <marty> I don't get it.... flushing says to do it against a file handle... but I don't have a filehandle as I'm not printing to a file.. I'm printing to standard output |
| 21:57.55 | g333k_laptop | hello I'm in debian etch, and I want to connect a shared directory in a windows xp box, do I have to configure something in samba or I just need to install it? |
| 21:58.04 | n2u | azeem: how? |
| 21:58.10 | Feax | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4248 why this samba comfig wont work , |
| 21:58.10 | Stevie[FP] | g333k_laptop: somebody suggested you use mount -t cifs |
| 21:58.12 | Feax | ? |
| 21:58.23 | azeem | n2u: how what? |
| 21:58.45 | n2u | azeem: my distro is Debian =s |
| 21:58.46 | Stevie[FP] | !doesn't work |
| 21:58.46 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 21:58.55 | d0uglas | g333k: get gsambad |
| 21:58.58 | d0uglas | then komba2 |
| 21:58.58 | azeem | n2u: yes, but your wine isn't |
| 21:59.00 | g333k_laptop | Stevie[FP], ok let me try |
| 21:59.06 | azeem | n2u: find out how he got it and ask them |
| 21:59.23 | n2u | azeem: hum, ok. Well... bye bye wine... |
| 21:59.44 | n2u | azeem: I compiled it on my Debian. |
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| 21:59.58 | d0uglas | gentoo spy! |
| 22:00.09 | Feax | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4248 why this samba config isnt good ? |
| 22:00.11 | azeem | n2u: ok, then you made a mistake |
| 22:00.25 | azeem | as the error says |
| 22:01.19 | g333k_laptop | Stevie[FP], does it exist? |
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| 22:01.33 | Feax | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4248 whith this samba config, I can see the name of the workgroup, the machine on my windows system but not the shared repertory :S how can I do ? Can anyone give me his samba config for sahere debian files to windows PC ? |
| 22:02.08 | Stevie[FP] | feax, you may need to ask in #samba |
| 22:02.16 | n2u | azeem: well, I did "make depend", after "make", after "checkinstall" (to create a package) and after "make install". All on the directory of sources. |
| 22:02.30 | azeem | n2u: dunno, I haven't compiled wine in ages |
| 22:02.36 | azeem | why don't you use the Debian package? |
| 22:02.37 | odla | n2u: why not just use apt to install wine? |
| 22:02.40 | Stevie[FP] | d0uglas: why would gentoo need to spy on us? Their custom compiled systems blow ours away with their 0.01% increase in optimizations, and it only takes them 6 hours longer to install things like X or Office to do it! |
| 22:03.02 | odla | n2u: you can get a newer version at the wine website |
| 22:03.17 | odla | Stevie[FP]: 30 hours to install oo.org2 :D |
| 22:03.23 | n2u | odla: the apt-get installs a old version |
| 22:03.26 | Stevie[FP] | we here at #debian can't even compete, what with our pretested prebuilt binary packages |
| 22:03.32 | n2u | odla: My version is the latest. |
| 22:03.39 | Stevie[FP] | and it doesn't work |
| 22:03.41 | azeem | n2u: but broken |
| 22:03.48 | odla | n2u: from the wine website? |
| 22:03.57 | n2u | azeem: yeah, from the wine website. |
| 22:04.26 | Stevie[FP] | I once worked in a farmer's market. Sometimes people could complain to my boss about the price. "$5 a pound? I can get them for $3 a pound at <other place>, but they're sold out" |
| 22:04.30 | n2u | somebody says about "X11 headers to wine", what is it? |
| 22:04.52 | Stevie[FP] | My boss would reply "Yeah, well, when they're sold out here, they're only $3 a pound too!" |
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| 22:05.23 | n2u | the old version works but not all resources |
| 22:05.27 | azeem | n2u: I suggest you install the .deb packages from winehq |
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| 22:05.33 | azeem | if you really need a newer version |
| 22:05.33 | ehj20 | is there a typo in apt-get update? - "Packages rred" |
| 22:05.54 | azeem | ah, wait |
| 22:05.57 | azeem | they won't work |
| 22:06.49 | odla | n2u: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb |
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| 22:06.56 | azeem | 23:57 < azeem> they won't work |
| 22:07.07 | azeem | n2u: wine-0.9.20 is on backports.org though |
| 22:07.12 | azeem | !backports.org |
| 22:07.12 | dpkg | i guess backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports> |
| 22:07.15 | odla | azeem: they might with sid? |
| 22:07.28 | azeem | odla: why would there be outdated wine packages in sid? |
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| 22:07.49 | odla | azeem: don't know |
| 22:07.54 | n2u | azeem: hum.. thanks, downloading. |
| 22:07.57 | azeem | so I assume n2u doesn't run sid |
| 22:08.03 | azeem | n2u: which version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:08.23 | n2u | azeem: sid? What is it? 3.1sr2 |
| 22:08.29 | azeem | right. |
| 22:08.34 | azeem | see above, use backports.org |
| 22:08.39 | n2u | ok ;) |
| 22:08.44 | odla | n2u: you're running sarge/stable FYI |
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| 22:10.23 | n2u | what's FYI? |
| 22:10.48 | odla | !FYI |
| 22:10.49 | dpkg | from memory, fyi is For Your Information |
| 22:12.10 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Hey |
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| 22:12.57 | d0uglas | dablade how's it hangin' |
| 22:13.06 | n2u | oh, thanks. :) |
| 22:13.09 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Good. Thanks for helping me out back there, finally home. :D |
| 22:13.15 | DaBlade | (Yes, I'm IRSSIUser) |
| 22:13.29 | n2u | My english is terrible... |
| 22:13.30 | d0uglas | ohhhh |
| 22:13.39 | d0uglas | so you got the card fired up nice? |
| 22:13.53 | n2u | and I'm newbie on GNU/Linux... |
| 22:13.56 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Well, not quite. It spat out some more errors, I got sick of it and went home. |
| 22:14.02 | Jemt | Greetz. Is there an alternative to Vesa available? My video cards is an ATI M6 (Mobility). Unfortunately the open source 'ati' driver makes my PC freeze, and the binary dosn't work - it states it can't find my video card. I need a driver with some sort of hardware rendering - just moving a window makes the computer lag (at least the graphical interface) |
| 22:14.08 | DaBlade | d0uglas: But I'll solve it tomorrow. |
| 22:14.19 | d0uglas | Well, it's good that you know when to quit. I get sucked in for weeks on the dumbest shit. |
| 22:14.36 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Anyway, I know the options now |
| 22:14.37 | DaBlade | d0uglas: --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules |
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| 22:14.54 | DaBlade | so #sh NVIDIA-INSTALLER... --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules |
| 22:15.03 | DaBlade | Then it should work on Etch with xorg 7+ |
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| 22:15.11 | DaBlade | Someone should add that to dpkg |
| 22:15.16 | DaBlade | The bot I mean |
| 22:15.33 | d0uglas | i'll spend consecutive all nighters just so i can get 3D satellite/airplane maps to substitute for my flight simulator needs |
| 22:15.51 | n2u | azeem, odla: well, I did all. |
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| 22:16.04 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Flightgear? GL-117? |
| 22:16.15 | n2u | azeem: but the version is the same older... |
| 22:16.24 | n2u | 20050310 |
| 22:16.26 | d0uglas | wow there you go i could have just asked here and saved myself the trouble |
| 22:16.28 | azeem | did what? |
| 22:16.33 | d0uglas | oh wait and there's also xlander |
| 22:16.42 | azeem | n2u: then you did something wrong |
| 22:16.43 | n2u | azeem: with backports repository |
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| 22:17.12 | DaBlade | d0uglas: :) |
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| 22:17.19 | n2u | azeem: the contents of this page: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 22:17.40 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Though, one thing I find somewhat annoying about this channel. Instead of answering the simplest of questions, some people just *insist* on using the bot to answer for them. |
| 22:17.42 | d0uglas | what i really want to do is get myself one of those gps suckers and get kismet to plot war-walking access point discoveries to google earth kml files |
| 22:17.46 | d0uglas | doable with python i'm told |
| 22:17.59 | DaBlade | I don't think it would've been difficult for people to find out --x-module-path... |
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| 22:18.04 | azeem | n2u: paste the output of "apt-cache policy wine" to a pastebing |
| 22:18.06 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 22:18.07 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or if you want to upload an entire file, you can use http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
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| 22:18.16 | cydork | d0uglas, try gpsdrive it's good too |
| 22:18.17 | dendrite | DaBlade: Better than saying "its a FAQ!" =) |
| 22:18.21 | d0uglas | well the bot won't make you an ftp account (at least i'm not sure how to tell it to) |
| 22:18.23 | n2u | azeem: wine: |
| 22:18.23 | n2u | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.23 | n2u | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.23 | n2u | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.23 | n2u | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:19.02 | azeem | n2u: try "apt-get install wine=0.9.20-1~bpo.1" |
| 22:19.06 | DaBlade | dendrite: I mean more like: "How do I move files with the command line?" "!tell user about mv" |
| 22:19.09 | dendrite | DaBlade: Besides, we're lazy, why type "blah blah blah..." when we can just type "!blah" ? |
| 22:19.14 | DaBlade | (Of course, that's an exaggeration, but still) |
| 22:19.20 | n2u | azeem: ok |
| 22:19.38 | dendrite | DaBlade: Well, mv is pretty darn basic. I'd rather not type an explanation of mv very often... |
| 22:19.55 | DaBlade | dendrite: My point is, instead of wasting two minutes figuring out --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules, I spent an hour trying to do things the debian way. |
| 22:20.10 | dendrite | DaBlade: And I'm sure you're better for it. |
| 22:20.27 | DaBlade | dendrite: A: that was an exaggeration. B: mv /dir/file /newdir |
| 22:20.31 | Daveman | haha |
| 22:20.34 | d0uglas | DaBlade: hmm gpsdrive would be good but i finally got *gl* working on my ati and can work google earth and i found the python script for kismet exporting i just have to redo the kismet conf |
| 22:20.38 | azeem | DaBlade: the solution to this is to answer those questions before the others do, without invoking the bot |
| 22:20.42 | d0uglas | and buy the gps device |
| 22:20.49 | dendrite | DaBlade: C: Go read some basics before asking in here. |
| 22:20.51 | DaBlade | Erm... ok? |
| 22:21.10 | DaBlade | dendrite: I hadn't messed with the stuff in a while. Human memory fails quickly! :P |
| 22:21.27 | dendrite | DaBlade: All will be forgiven, I'm sure. =) |
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| 22:21.32 | DaBlade | lol |
| 22:21.36 | n2u | azeem: ok, installing libwine first... |
| 22:21.58 | d0uglas | dendrite: D: = what used to be my CD ROM drive |
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| 22:22.31 | d0uglas | sheesh you people and your outline chat format |
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| 22:27.41 | n2u | azeem: works!!! |
| 22:27.56 | n2u | azeem: thanks! |
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| 22:31.05 | n2u | azeem: but I'm on some problem (floppy drive) |
| 22:31.15 | azeem | n2u: I'm not using wine |
| 22:31.28 | azeem | you'd be better advised to ask the whole channel, not only me |
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| 22:31.57 | Marupa | is there a way to show a list of files owned by a user? |
| 22:32.50 | cydork | Marupa, find can do that. |
| 22:33.04 | DaBlade | d0uglas: Well, good night. |
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| 22:33.19 | n2u | azeem: no problem. The solution wich you suggests works. Thank you. |
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| 22:35.45 | znull | where is rc.local on debian? |
| 22:35.58 | h3sp4wn | /etc/rc.local |
| 22:36.06 | Catoptromancy | I installed Debian i386 and it runs in command line mode....I really need a desktop, how and what would I install? |
| 22:36.18 | cydork | znull, that's for sissies :P |
| 22:36.33 | znull | cydork: what else should I use? |
| 22:36.42 | cydork | Catoptromancy, run tasksel .. |
| 22:36.52 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: which do you want ? |
| 22:36.58 | Marupa | hmmm, how do you export output to file? > file.txt ? |
| 22:37.01 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: which Desktop or WM i mean |
| 22:37.09 | Catoptromancy | I dont know heh... somethng that runs on a slow computer |
| 22:37.14 | Catoptromancy | faster most basic desktop |
| 22:37.29 | cydork | Catoptromancy, try xfce or fluxbox then.. |
| 22:37.45 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: apt-get install x-window-system xdm xfce |
| 22:37.47 | Catoptromancy | ok ill search those |
| 22:37.49 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: apt-get install x-window-system xdm xfce menu |
| 22:38.03 | Catoptromancy | its already installed or I need to download? |
| 22:38.04 | cydork | !tell znull about startup |
| 22:38.17 | n2u | Catoptromancy: download... |
| 22:38.59 | n2u | Catoptromancy: what's your hardware? |
| 22:39.16 | Catoptromancy | 400 mhz 6 gb I dont really know |
| 22:39.34 | abrotman | how much RAM ? |
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| 22:39.52 | Catoptromancy | not sure |
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| 22:40.05 | n2u | Catoptromancy: well, xfce. ;) |
| 22:40.16 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 22:40.17 | Catoptromancy | already dowbloding installer |
| 22:40.25 | Catoptromancy | heh downloading |
| 22:41.02 | cydork | Catoptromancy, no you jjust have to do apt-get install xfce |
| 22:41.25 | runa | hey :) I got a new server from burst.net with debian stable installed (they say that). I've found the installation feels weird (there's no /sbin in the initial PATH, after you ssh, or there is "# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM" in /etc/fstab). Now, when I try to edit a file using vim, the arrow keys act funny (ie, send A, B,C,D instead of moving the cursor). Any hints? |
| 22:41.25 | Catoptromancy | this computer doesnt have internet |
| 22:41.41 | abrotman | why not ? |
| 22:41.58 | Catoptromancy | no ports or connection |
| 22:42.04 | abrotman | that'll be rough |
| 22:42.05 | Catoptromancy | heh free computer |
| 22:42.05 | n2u | Catoptromancy: get the Debian CDs. |
| 22:42.19 | Catoptromancy | I have i386. iso the newest version |
| 22:42.24 | Marupa | so how do I get stuff to send to file via output? |
| 22:42.31 | abrotman | use redirection |
| 22:42.37 | msn | how do i find you which service is using what port |
| 22:42.41 | abrotman | fuser or lsof |
| 22:42.52 | abrotman | or cat /etc/services .. if it's known |
| 22:42.52 | cydork | msn, netstat even |
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| 22:43.03 | Catoptromancy | You are requesting file: /xfce/xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin this looks promising |
| 22:43.12 | msn | hmm |
| 22:43.13 | abrotman | you are? |
| 22:43.22 | Marupa | well, what I want is to put find's output to a text file since my buffer's too small. |
| 22:43.25 | abrotman | that looks very wrong |
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| 22:43.34 | n2u | Catoptromancy: do you have a network card? |
| 22:43.37 | abrotman | Marupa: so > blah.txt |
| 22:43.46 | Marupa | ahh, thanks. I thought that's what it was. |
| 22:43.48 | Catoptromancy | i think so but I dont want this PC on net anyway |
| 22:43.51 | cydork | Catoptromancy, dont install anything which doesn't come with debian, that's just wrong :P |
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| 22:43.56 | Catoptromancy | ok |
| 22:43.59 | n2u | Catoptromancy: make a small LAN to any time... or get the packages CDs. |
| 22:44.07 | msn | cydork: postfix is throwing error that port 25 is in use but no service which uses port 25 is installed on the server |
| 22:44.15 | Catoptromancy | so how do I get a desktop? |
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| 22:44.34 | mrkris | msn: use nestat to see, or lsof |
| 22:44.39 | mrkris | Catoptromancy: eh? |
| 22:44.44 | abrotman | fuser -n tcp 25 |
| 22:44.49 | cydork | msn, netstat -plunt|grep 25 |
| 22:44.51 | mrkris | abrotman: interesting |
| 22:44.52 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: apt-get install x-window-system xdm xfce menu |
| 22:44.59 | abrotman | mrkris: why ? |
| 22:45.08 | mrkris | abrotman: never new of fuser :D |
| 22:45.13 | abrotman | knew .. |
| 22:45.16 | n2u | abrotman: He don't have internet.. |
| 22:45.17 | abrotman | fuser is fun! |
| 22:45.20 | mrkris | err, knew |
| 22:45.21 | abrotman | n2u: he has CDs |
| 22:45.23 | mrkris | "sorry" |
| 22:45.25 | Kalisto | what can i do to find out why a certain program "stunnel4" does not run? ie. i try to run it... my bash has no error output. var/messages no info. stunnel log no info... how can i find out why its not running? |
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| 22:45.33 | abrotman | strace it ? |
| 22:45.47 | n2u | abrotman: Ops, then, all right. :) |
| 22:46.10 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: what is the name of the ISO you used to make that CD ? |
| 22:46.43 | Catoptromancy | debian-31r3-i386 |
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| 22:46.52 | abrotman | uhm .. it was longer than that :) |
| 22:47.08 | n2u | hehe |
| 22:47.13 | Catoptromancy | maybe heh thats what i wrote on back |
| 22:47.20 | abrotman | yeah .. that doesn't help us |
| 22:47.21 | Catoptromancy | Im sure it was newest version |
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| 22:47.31 | abrotman | mine says "You're getting Debian dude..." |
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| 22:48.13 | Kalisto | abrotman, hmmm thats a lot of output.. from strace. last output is exit_group(1) . does that mean it exited? |
| 22:48.24 | abrotman | it means something did :) |
| 22:48.36 | abrotman | you might have to look around a bit .. up a few dozen lines etc |
| 22:49.01 | Kalisto | abrotman, well as a standard debian packages i thought it would woks.. standard system setup pretty mich.. |
| 22:49.06 | Catoptromancy | debian-31r3-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 22:49.13 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: and you have no internet at all ? |
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| 22:49.17 | Catoptromancy | no |
| 22:49.21 | abrotman | Kalisto: is this on sarge or etch/sid ? |
| 22:49.26 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: you're not going to get a desktop with that |
| 22:49.44 | Catoptromancy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.48 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: that just installs a base system .. enough to be useful to get anything else you might want |
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| 22:50.01 | Catoptromancy | is there a full installer with desktop? |
| 22:50.09 | abrotman | yep .. moment |
| 22:50.12 | Catoptromancy | fit on one cd perhaps heh |
| 22:50.20 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r3/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 22:50.25 | Kalisto | abrotman, well actually its Ubuntu... got sick of gentoo.. |
| 22:50.27 | abrotman | haha .. one CD .. hahahHAHAHHhahahh |
| 22:50.28 | Catoptromancy | thanks |
| 22:50.32 | abrotman | Kalisto: then you should ask #ubuntu |
| 22:50.35 | cosmodad | has anyone managed to get fuse up and running on 2.4.27-3? It used to work with -2 but the latest sarge 2.4 kernel just gives me tons of "unresolved symbols" errors on modprobe |
| 22:50.41 | abrotman | Kalisto: Ubuntu is not debian .. they alter packages |
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| 22:51.03 | Kalisto | abrotman, yea i know.. its just in ubuntu you dont get too much good help |
| 22:51.18 | Kalisto | ill try ubuntu then |
| 22:51.19 | abrotman | Kalisto: so install debian .. we'll be here to help you :) |
| 22:51.20 | cydork | !they don't know |
| 22:51.20 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 22:51.21 | azeem | hrm, this is a business model |
| 22:51.30 | azeem | #debian-paid-support-for-ubuntu |
| 22:51.38 | abrotman | azeem: we could pay RMs with that money! |
| 22:51.40 | Catoptromancy | which one of those do I download? |
| 22:51.50 | cydork | azeem, yep that's great idea :P |
| 22:51.53 | Catoptromancy | I just need very basic system with desktop |
| 22:51.56 | abrotman | Catoptromancy: if you want a full set .. you get all binary-[1-15] .. |
| 22:52.03 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 22:52.04 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the cds: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search ; If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 22:52.13 | abrotman | CHodapp: old .. slow .. get a mac mini G4 |
| 22:52.22 | azeem | Catoptromancy: first CD might be enough, get the first two or three to be sure, maybe |
| 22:52.28 | Kalisto | i run my servers on debian. workstation on ubuntu.. its just a nice standard user system that ubuntu gives you out of the box |
| 22:53.00 | n2u | Catoptromancy: the base system don't have a desktop. It's optional.. |
| 22:53.02 | cydork | Kalisto, read the god damn topic |
| 22:53.19 | azeem | 00:42 < Kalisto> ill try ubuntu then |
| 22:53.20 | CHodapp | Some #mac folks recommended basically building my own G4 cube... |
| 22:53.21 | azeem | cydork: chill |
| 22:53.35 | abrotman | looks like most of xfce is on CD3 |
| 22:53.44 | Catoptromancy | im guessing I need a torrent?> |
| 22:53.47 | niles | is sid == sarge? |
| 22:53.53 | abrotman | not even close |
| 22:53.56 | niles | ok |
| 22:54.00 | niles | stable == sarge. |
| 22:54.17 | niles | im just looking for openwrt cross compilers. |
| 22:54.28 | azeem | uh-huh |
| 22:54.42 | Catoptromancy | iso-cd looks like same files without torrent |
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| 22:54.52 | abrotman | it is |
| 22:54.52 | azeem | niles: better ask openwrt people, I'd say |
| 22:55.07 | niles | yea. |
| 22:55.34 | Catoptromancy | this will take awhile, be back in a few days heh |
| 22:55.36 | Catoptromancy | thanks |
| 22:56.13 | abrotman | you can order CDs also |
| 22:56.18 | Catoptromancy | meh |
| 22:56.29 | abrotman | you could avoid all this if the Debian machine had an internet connection of some sort |
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| 22:56.47 | Catoptromancy | i like backups anyway |
| 22:56.55 | Catoptromancy | i tend to format that drive alot |
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| 22:58.09 | cosmodad | has anyone managed to get fuse up and running on 2.4.27-3? It used to work with -2 but the latest sarge 2.4 kernel just gives me tons of "unresolved symbols" errors on modprobe |
| 22:58.35 | n2u | guys, the 32-bits packages run on 64-bit Debian system? |
| 22:59.15 | abrotman | multiarch ? |
| 22:59.19 | azeem | n2u: no, unless you mean 64bit kernel on a 32bit system |
| 22:59.25 | abrotman | ask the #debian-amd64 people |
| 22:59.33 | azeem | n2u: or some very specific exceptions |
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| 23:00.15 | n2u | ok, thanks. |
| 23:00.17 | cydork | n2u, there is ia32-libs package but not sure how good is that.. the best option is to use chroot 32 bit env |
| 23:00.31 | azeem | or telling us the use-case |
| 23:01.31 | cydork | cosmodad, which version of fuse is this? |
| 23:01.57 | n2u | All right. Thanks again. |
| 23:02.21 | cosmodad | cydork: sarge fuse, that is 2.2.1-4sarge2 of fuse-source. I also tried the backports but that didn't help |
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| 23:02.58 | navaburo | anyone try etch beta on vmware? |
| 23:04.27 | azeem | navaburo: what about it? |
| 23:04.53 | abrotman | i heard it makes cookies! |
| 23:05.01 | cosmodad | cydork: so any clue? |
| 23:05.10 | odla | yum cookies |
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| 23:05.32 | cosmodad | cydork: I get stuff like "/lib/modules/2.4.27-3-686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.o: /lib/modules/2.4.27-3-686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.o: unresolved symbol vmtruncate_R7712bd3a" |
| 23:05.46 | cydork | cosmodad, cant say... |
| 23:06.10 | cosmodad | cydork: ok |
| 23:06.14 | cydork | cosmodad, do you need 2.4?? :P |
| 23:06.22 | cosmodad | cydork: unfortunately yes |
| 23:06.43 | cosmodad | cydork: unless I get this mga_vid driver up and running under 2.6 |
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| 23:07.33 | abrotman | azeem: is the DNS still wonky ? |
| 23:07.53 | azeem | dunno, which DNS in particular? |
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| 23:08.18 | navaburo | azeem, i get periodic freezing of mouse and keyboard on etch/vmware |
| 23:08.26 | abrotman | azeem: for packages.d.o etc |
| 23:08.37 | azeem | abrotman: hrm, haven't heard about it, sorry |
| 23:08.46 | azeem | p.d.o worked for me a while ago |
| 23:08.57 | azeem | (alioth/svn etc. moved today) |
| 23:08.57 | abrotman | it works .. jsut slow |
| 23:09.07 | cydork | cosmodad, well you can get a newer version of fuse source and try building it manually.. but cant say it will work |
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| 23:09.23 | navaburo | it doesnt matter to me, i will install a natice system when etch goes stable, but i just wanted to say that i get poor behavior |
| 23:09.32 | cosmodad | cydork: good idea, I think I'll try that |
| 23:10.16 | cfranco | good night people |
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| 23:10.25 | cydork | cosmodad, you cant use fuse 2.6 though you will need 2.5.3 or somethin.. |
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| 23:11.41 | cosmodad | cydork: I just realize that I'm using a -686 kernel on an Athlon k7 machine... you think this might be the reason? |
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| 23:13.21 | kingsley | What's the name of the utility that searches a system for a scanner and reports its address? |
| 23:13.37 | abrotman | sane ? |
| 23:13.54 | odla | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:14.13 | cydork | cosmodad, dont think so.. but you wanna change though :P |
| 23:14.18 | cydork | hehe |
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| 23:15.39 | cosmodad | cydork: yeah :) |
| 23:16.01 | kingsley | sane-find-scanner |
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| 23:22.41 | xittum | kingsley: dont listen to these cli hippies ;) xsane |
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| 23:29.33 | adrenaline | Hey I just installed debian and it is a 2.4 kernel did I install an old version? |
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| 23:29.51 | dvs | adrenaline: no, you could have used the linux26 option to get a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:30.04 | adrenaline | is it too late now? |
| 23:30.09 | dvs | adrenaline: no |
| 23:30.13 | abrotman | adrenaline: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 .. pick the one for your CPU .. isntall it |
| 23:30.14 | adrenaline | what do I do? |
| 23:30.19 | dvs | adrenaline: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 23:30.20 | SPOPPO | not sure |
| 23:30.26 | adrenaline | cool |
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| 23:31.14 | adrenaline | when was I supposed to pass that during the install? |
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| 23:31.32 | dvs | adrenaline: the first first prompt |
| 23:31.41 | adrenaline | hmmm |
| 23:31.42 | dvs | the very first prompt |
| 23:32.08 | dvs | [F2 More Option] |
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| 23:33.09 | adrenaline | -image-2.6.8-3-686-smp 2.6.8-16sarge5 |
| 23:33.13 | adrenaline | what is this? |
| 23:33.20 | dvs | adrenaline: a kernel |
| 23:33.32 | adrenaline | thanks what is smp |
| 23:33.39 | dvs | adrenaline: multi CPU |
| 23:33.42 | suteri_ | multiple processors |
| 23:33.44 | adrenaline | ah thanks |
| 23:33.49 | mikmu | Question, anyone here use an adaptec raid card? There seems to be two drivers in the kernel, the i2o drivers and the dpt_i2o drivers from adaptec...which am I supposed to use? |
| 23:33.51 | daedalus_ | adrenaline: SYmmetric Multi-Processing |
| 23:34.08 | adrenaline | what is diff between 386 686? |
| 23:34.22 | dvs | adrenaline: what CPU do you have? |
| 23:34.22 | kodla | adrenaline: 686 newer intel processors |
| 23:34.33 | kodla | Pentium 3+, I think |
| 23:34.36 | daedalus_ | adrenaline: Takes advantage of advanced (686) instructions. MMX, SSE2, etc. |
| 23:34.56 | adrenaline | i have amd but the only amd option is 64bit |
| 23:35.07 | dvs | adrenaline: an AMD what? |
| 23:35.18 | adrenaline | i think it is a xp1600 |
| 23:35.24 | dvs | adrenaline: pick 686 |
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| 23:35.32 | daedalus_ | adrenaline: You either need a k7/k6 distro , or failing that, a 686 should work |
| 23:35.51 | daedalus_ | dvs: do they no longer roll a k6 kernel? |
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| 23:36.57 | azeem | there should be a k7 kernel |
| 23:37.01 | adrenaline | k7 really they have that as an option |
| 23:37.11 | abrotman | that's a -k7 |
| 23:37.26 | adrenaline | XP1600 athlon |
| 23:37.53 | abrotman | that's a -k7 |
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| 23:38.15 | adrenaline | nice thanks guys |
| 23:38.29 | dan__ | abrotman: eye! |
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| 23:38.36 | dan2 | aye |
| 23:38.40 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
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| 23:40.25 | jelly | what do I have to install for xen apart from the kernel? |
| 23:40.40 | h3sp4wn | jelly: hypervisor - xen-tools |
| 23:40.56 | h3sp4wn | jelly: etch or sid or sarge ? |
| 23:41.43 | jelly | h3sp4wn: sarge but it's not a problem to upgrade if necessary. I'll run sarge on the clients |
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| 23:44.11 | adrenaline | Ok how do I get the kernel installed? do I just reboot? |
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| 23:44.34 | suteri_ | apt-get it first, then reboot |
| 23:44.35 | h3sp4wn | jelly: here for my dom0 - I have etch (apt prefers testing) with 2.6.18 xen kernel from unstable - and xen 3.0.3 |
| 23:44.39 | dvs | adrenaline: you did the apt-get stuff right? |
| 23:44.44 | adrenaline | dvs, yes |
| 23:44.50 | adrenaline | It says it is done |
| 23:45.00 | adrenaline | says it updated grub |
| 23:45.20 | adrenaline | cool well here goes nothing |
| 23:45.28 | adrenaline | cross your fingers |
| 23:45.35 | jelly | h3sp4wn: how long has it been running? That is, is xen 3 stable? |
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| 23:45.46 | h3sp4wn | jelly: backports has xen 3.0.2 (but the 16-2 and above kernels in backports need the new hypervisor which is only in etch one version |
| 23:46.00 | dvs | Yes! Synaptic is back! |
| 23:46.12 | h3sp4wn | jelly: I would say pretty stable (not used the vt extensions which I don't have on my chip) |
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