| 00:00.06 | krazykit | grendal_prime: iwlist scan |
| 00:00.22 | grendal_prime | thanks |
| 00:01.16 | Sayers | Weehee! Music works :D |
| 00:01.52 | Azar | jZed: what kernel version did you use with sarge? |
| 00:01.53 | jZed | ok, I guess live cd + chroot, any tips if the dist-upgrade stalls again? anyway to go back to sarge :-)? |
| 00:02.25 | jZed | um, is 2.6 a possible answer? |
| 00:02.28 | Sayers | Is there an apt get for Java? |
| 00:03.00 | jelly-home | jZed: 2.6 is in general a better idea with hardware problems. |
| 00:03.06 | jelly-home | jZed: so yes |
| 00:03.14 | Azar | jZed: as I vaguely remember, at my Etch upgrade back in July, I took care to go up with 2.6.14 from 2.6.8 |
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| 00:03.50 | rizzzo | I am trying to upgrade to make 3.81. I tried adding the testing repository and running apt-get -t testing upgrade make -f but that seems to want to install/upgrade a lot more than just make... |
| 00:04.05 | krazykit | oh, that's what i was gonna do... update my kernel to 2.6.18... |
| 00:04.36 | Feax- | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.47 | azeem | ifconfig |
| 00:04.51 | mykhal | could you hint me ? dpkg-buildpackage runs configure and make phase automatically, so if I have already compiled the source, after config it compiles it again. How can I disable that recompiling ? |
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| 00:08.35 | raz0 | Random thought. How do you handle applications that don't even have an install script (eg. like eclipse)? Do you just put them in /opt/ and create some shortcuts yourself, or is there some way to get them into the package system? |
| 00:08.58 | krazykit | raz0: the former, personally. |
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| 00:10.20 | rizzzo | Anyone? |
| 00:10.22 | Azar | yay I found a great howto in the /usr/share/doc/aptitude, lots of things I never knew about |
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| 00:11.11 | grendal_prime | ok when i run iwlist scan i get |
| 00:11.12 | grendal_prime | eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported |
| 00:11.13 | krazykit | rizzzo: maybe make depends on other updated things |
| 00:11.24 | krazykit | grendal_prime: what kind of card? |
| 00:11.30 | grendal_prime | dlink |
| 00:11.37 | krazykit | what chipset? |
| 00:11.39 | grendal_prime | orinoco chipset |
| 00:11.42 | krazykit | ah. |
| 00:11.43 | rizzzo | krazykit: Isn't that what -f takes care of? |
| 00:11.48 | krazykit | rizzzo: iunno. |
| 00:12.20 | krazykit | grendal_prime: dunno, then. i don't know orinoco enough to troubleshoot them |
| 00:12.35 | Azar | rizzzo: if you have 20 min to spend, go to /usr/share/doc/aptitude and read the README file, scroll up/down for hints, it is amazing |
| 00:12.54 | Azar | I never knew aptitude has a menu interface! |
| 00:13.02 | krazykit | wait, really? |
| 00:13.08 | krazykit | you never knew that? |
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| 00:13.19 | Sayers | is there a apt-get install java? |
| 00:13.25 | Azar | no, I was reading the Debian online manuals but it does not mention of it |
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| 00:13.47 | grendal_prime | !dpkg java |
| 00:13.50 | Azar | Sayers: apt-get gives you only packages on the list for your Debian version |
| 00:13.59 | grendal_prime | !java |
| 00:14.00 | dpkg | Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 00:14.22 | Sayers | !install Java |
| 00:14.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
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| 00:14.34 | cokehead | wow haha |
| 00:14.38 | grendal_prime | and so it begins |
| 00:14.41 | cokehead | poor wtfbot |
| 00:14.41 | Feax- | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.54 | Azar | Feax-: ifconfig |
| 00:14.56 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 00:14.59 | Feax- | thanks |
| 00:15.12 | grendal_prime | that is a werid ass question..........ooooo ok |
| 00:15.13 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 00:15.20 | grendal_prime | i always think of it the other way around |
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| 00:17.00 | Azar | this is really weird, lately, xserver-xfree86 became dependend on .dm this is really silly. .dm should be optional |
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| 00:17.43 | Sayers | How do I run my file server I installed on Linux a while back? |
| 00:17.57 | Azar | if you are not running a .dm, xfree86 is labeled by aptitude as broken (non-usable) ridiculous |
| 00:19.04 | Sayers | ? |
| 00:20.14 | mykhal | Really noone will help me ? I have recompiled openssl from deb sources manually, (to have VIA Padlock enabled) and I'd like to make a package from it. but dpkg-buildpackage forcefully recompiles it again, which I don't want. |
| 00:20.17 | krazykit | Sayers: depends on the file server. |
| 00:21.14 | krazykit | Sayers: probably something in /etc/init.d/yourfileserver start |
| 00:21.50 | wols | Sayers: depends on what you installed for a filemanager |
| 00:21.56 | wols | for a fileserver |
| 00:22.25 | wols | mykhal: have you edited your control file to include padlock support? |
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| 00:23.16 | jotham | anyone suggest a rate limiting proxy server? |
| 00:23.23 | jotham | i just need to simulate dialup for this project |
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| 00:25.35 | aFlag | hello, is there a program to grab whatever is happening on X and record it in a mpeg file (or any other video format)? |
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| 00:26.37 | mykhal | wols: No, rather I have it compiled using ./config; make |
| 00:26.43 | Kassah2 | how do I change the return of dnsdomainname? |
| 00:27.00 | Kassah2 | mainly I want to change the hostname and dnsdomainname so they return properly |
| 00:27.15 | wols | mykhal: that's what dpkg-buildpackage does internally, controlled by /debian/ |
| 00:27.26 | wols | unless you change your stuff there it will never work as you like |
| 00:27.35 | wols | !tell mykhal about nm guide |
| 00:27.55 | wols | !hostname |
| 00:27.55 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
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| 00:28.57 | replicah | !ssh_keygen |
| 00:29.01 | replicah | just checkin ;) |
| 00:29.07 | replicah | whats this ! for? |
| 00:29.22 | Kassah2 | hrrm |
| 00:29.38 | Kassah2 | wols: I have test.kassah.net in hostname... but dnsdomainname still returns nothing |
| 00:29.44 | Azar | aFlag: you mean snapshot application/ |
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| 00:29.53 | mykhal | wols: thanks. but there is nowhere padlock disabled in any file in debian/ subdir |
| 00:30.10 | dim_ | hi i am using netinst 112mb cd to install debian for the first time, i have 2 primary and 1 extended partitions already set and working. how can i install debian in one primary or how can i create one more extended, i am using GParted for partitioning |
| 00:30.14 | mykhal | (at least no padlock string occurence in these files) |
| 00:30.15 | Kassah2 | wols: and 10.0.0.120 test test.kassah.net is in my /etc/hosts file... |
| 00:30.16 | Kassah2 | =/ |
| 00:30.37 | Kassah2 | wols: as well as real DNS returning 10.0.0.120 |
| 00:30.37 | aFlag | Azar, well, I didn't want just a snapshot, but a sequence |
| 00:30.46 | wols | mykhal: you need to _enable_ it no? by a ./configure option? |
| 00:30.55 | aFlag | to kinda record what I'm doing |
| 00:30.56 | Azar | aFlag: oh, I never worked with movie shots... sorry. |
| 00:31.06 | wols | Kassah2: what is "dnsdomainname"? how do you check it? |
| 00:31.15 | magyar | what is the diff between sk98lin, skge sky2 kernel modules? |
| 00:31.19 | the-ruediger | it's unbelivable. It really can't be that I have to compile my own mysql5 server if i want innodb support. I hope at least I can do it with apt-build |
| 00:31.43 | Azar | aFlag: there are gadgets out there you only have to look for, holdon |
| 00:31.59 | mykhal | wols: I made sure padlock support is working now, after recompiling. Now I'd like to make a package from these copmpiles apps/libs. I know it might not work |
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| 00:32.27 | Kassah2 | wols: dnsdomainname is the same as doing hostname -d |
| 00:32.31 | wols | mykhal: if you want to do it, edit your /debian/* files, most probably control |
| 00:32.33 | Kassah2 | wols: see man hostname |
| 00:32.39 | Azar | aFlag, they are listed by the Debian versions, look for and pick from the version you are running: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 00:32.54 | mykhal | wols: ok |
| 00:33.12 | mykhal | wols: maybe rules ? |
| 00:33.37 | aFlag | ok, thanks |
| 00:34.26 | mykhal | seems I want to perform whole dpkg-buildpackage -b process, just without build phase :) |
| 00:34.46 | wols | mykhal: dunno what, but if you want a different compile option, it is in /debian/ where you need to change stuff |
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| 00:38.30 | scanf | Is there a way to find out the ISO Label of a CDROM under Debian besides "isoinfo -d -dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0" |
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| 00:44.10 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:44.11 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 00:44.35 | wireddd | is there a wm that will work well on a 320x240 screen? |
| 00:44.41 | replicah | what the hell is moo..? |
| 00:44.46 | Daveman | :D |
| 00:44.50 | hxizan | apt-cache show moo |
| 00:44.52 | dvs | replicah: try it, you like it |
| 00:44.56 | replicah | hmm |
| 00:44.58 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 00:44.58 | replicah | dont know about that one |
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| 00:45.06 | dvs | replicah: trust me. ;-) |
| 00:45.07 | abrotman | hxizan: apt-get moo |
| 00:45.12 | hxizan | :D |
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| 00:45.34 | abrotman | wireddd: a few |
| 00:45.34 | replicah | haha |
| 00:45.36 | replicah | niiice |
| 00:45.42 | CrippsFX | I remember that to get sound in enemy territory working I had to modprobe snd_pcm_oss ... what else did I have to do? |
| 00:45.45 | replicah | i've certainly mooed today |
| 00:45.50 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 00:46.02 | Daveman | Hello :) |
| 00:46.08 | replicah | any other easter eggs? |
| 00:46.36 | abrotman | aptitude moo .. aptitude -v moo .. keep adding more v's |
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| 00:47.50 | evilbulgarian | hi, what is the best way to automate installs of debian? |
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| 00:47.51 | abrotman | !fai |
| 00:47.51 | dpkg | [fai] Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 00:47.51 | n3kl | for some reason, when I plug a usb drive into my machine, `dmesg` prints that the device was detected, but it does not give a device number. |
| 00:47.51 | evilbulgarian | abrotman: thanks |
| 00:47.58 | abrotman | you're welcome |
| 00:48.01 | ManiaC-girL | selam millet |
| 00:48.07 | abrotman | you're welcome |
| 00:48.18 | n3kl | what modules do I nee? |
| 00:48.20 | abrotman | is that .. spanish ? |
| 00:48.27 | abrotman | !tell n3kl about usb storage |
| 00:48.27 | ManiaC-girL | ya dur hemen telefon falan ? |
| 00:48.38 | abrotman | portuguese ? |
| 00:48.44 | Kassah2 | wols: figured it out... it does reverse ip lookup... so you have to make sure you have fqdn first in your hosts... not just the hostname |
| 00:48.44 | ManiaC-girL | yaa işte öle .. |
| 00:48.52 | abrotman | turkish ? |
| 00:48.55 | ManiaC-girL | yea |
| 00:48.57 | ManiaC-girL | .) |
| 00:48.58 | abrotman | !tr |
| 00:48.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net) -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 00:49.00 | ManiaC-girL | dpkg sıktıysam seni bye diyebilirsin üzgünüm |
| 00:49.05 | grendal_prime | herre is a werid one |
| 00:49.06 | grendal_prime | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 00:49.07 | grendal_prime | E: Error occured while processing qt3-linguist (NewFileVer1) |
| 00:49.07 | grendal_prime | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 00:49.07 | grendal_prime | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 00:49.07 | *** kick/#debian [grendal_prime!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 00:49.07 | ManiaC-girL | grendal_prime sıktıysam seni bye diyebilirsin üzgünüm |
| 00:49.18 | abrotman | ManiaC-girL: english please |
| 00:49.28 | abrotman | !tell grendal_prime about mmap |
| 00:49.28 | ManiaC-girL | oky |
| 00:49.28 | ManiaC-girL | ooo hemen tel falan bu ne hız |
| 00:49.34 | abrotman | that's not english |
| 00:49.40 | n3kl | apt: thanks, I knew I had them in my kernel, I just couldn |
| 00:49.40 | apt | de rien, n3kl |
| 00:49.47 | n3kl | remeber |
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| 00:53.41 | rawtaz | this isnt going well :I |
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| 00:54.34 | rawtaz | i just started using g4u to clone a disk. but i realized the disk is 40gig big, and that's not very fun it seems.. does anyone know a prog that can clone a debian installed disk? |
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| 00:56.14 | abrotman | the data or the packages ? |
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| 00:56.22 | rawtaz | abrotman: everything really |
| 00:56.30 | rawtaz | i need 32 identical systems |
| 00:56.42 | ManiaC-girL | god evening all |
| 00:56.45 | ManiaC-girL | byee. |
| 00:57.00 | abrotman | rawtaz: exactly the same ? |
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| 00:57.38 | rawtaz | abrotman: yeah. as in, i have installed a computer the way i want it, now i cant to clone it to have more servers set up the same |
| 00:58.01 | abrotman | drives all the same size? |
| 00:58.05 | n3kl | how can I give my regular user access to eject medium? |
| 00:58.06 | rawtaz | yeah |
| 00:58.10 | rawtaz | really identical computers :) |
| 00:58.16 | abrotman | eh ... let me look |
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| 00:58.34 | rawtaz | sorry to ask help, but im really new to debian, and have to get hese servers running heh |
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| 00:58.48 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 00:58.49 | dpkg | refcard is, like, A short reference of Debian commands can be found at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ and will be quite useful for someone new to Debian. |
| 00:59.11 | rawtaz | ah :)) |
| 00:59.19 | abrotman | !info system-imager-server sarge |
| 00:59.30 | abrotman | !info systemimager-server sarge |
| 00:59.36 | dpkg | systemimager-server: (Automate GNU/Linux installs and upgrades over a network), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.2.3-6sarge3 (sarge), Packaged size: 114 kB, Installed size: 644 kB |
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| 01:00.11 | rawtaz | hmm |
| 01:00.19 | abrotman | no ? |
| 01:00.27 | rawtaz | looking :o |
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| 01:03.01 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 01:03.01 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 01:03.17 | cunzhang_ | today I upgrade mysql-server-5.0,but dpkg can't success configuring it and it can't start,the error is: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. |
| 01:03.33 | wols | cunzhang_: check your logs |
| 01:03.34 | abrotman | why? |
| 01:03.44 | jZed | I fubared my system upgrading sarge to etch, couldn't use keyboard, i am now chrooted in and trying apt-get -f dist-upgrade but it keeps bombing |
| 01:03.58 | abrotman | errors are good |
| 01:04.09 | wols | and helpful |
| 01:04.10 | abrotman | wols: do you work or are you a student? |
| 01:04.19 | stranger_stone | what do you think is bether labelflash or lightscrible ? |
| 01:04.25 | wols | abrotman: why? cause I'm up right now? |
| 01:04.30 | jZed | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-i740: |
| 01:04.30 | jZed | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.30 | jZed | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.34 | abrotman | wols: cause you're on my schedule :) |
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| 01:04.41 | stranger_stone | can we burn in debian labelflash ou lightscrible? |
| 01:04.50 | wols | set the alarm clock to do a latenight dialysis and doing some php while I'm at it :) |
| 01:04.55 | abrotman | what is your normal burnning program |
| 01:04.55 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:05.06 | abrotman | wols: as in .. kidneys? |
| 01:05.11 | wols | yes |
| 01:05.15 | abrotman | ewww |
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| 01:05.34 | abrotman | i just thought you were on my schedule :) |
| 01:05.35 | wols | abrotman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritoneal_dialysis |
| 01:05.49 | cunzhang_ | wols, which log should I see? |
| 01:06.00 | wols | cunzhang_: syslog, mysql log |
| 01:06.06 | Caelum | is there a web based bug submission form somewhere? I haven't gotten exim configured yet |
| 01:06.37 | wols | Caelum: reportbug can create a textfile with your bug which you can use with a webmail account |
| 01:06.41 | abrotman | Caelum: gmail ? :) |
| 01:06.54 | cunzhang_ | wols, but I can't find anything |
| 01:07.07 | Caelum | wols: ahh thank you |
| 01:07.54 | cunzhang | wols, in /var/log I find nothing useful. |
| 01:08.20 | Caelum | what's the command to delete all frozen messages from exim? |
| 01:08.35 | wols | cunzhang: then I dunno where it would be |
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| 01:09.31 | cunzhang | wols, thank you all the same |
| 01:09.56 | wols | cunzhang: where did you get mysql5 from? |
| 01:10.02 | abrotman | wols: that sounds like no fun |
| 01:10.04 | wols | and for what debian branch? |
| 01:10.09 | cunzhang | wols, apt-get install |
| 01:10.14 | wols | abrotman: it beats the heck out of hemo |
| 01:10.20 | cunzhang | wols, debian sid |
| 01:10.21 | wols | cunzhang: what repo? what debian branch? |
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| 01:10.28 | abrotman | wols: that'd be going to the hospital ? |
| 01:10.42 | wols | cunzhang: then you're on your own. you're supposed to know how to fix such things yourself on sid |
| 01:10.48 | abrotman | cunzhang: apt-cache policy mysql-server5 or whatever the package is |
| 01:10.51 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:10.52 | dpkg | it has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 01:11.14 | wols | abrotman: not hospital but sort of a daycare clicin which takes huge amounts of the day, needs very fixed schedules and crap like that |
| 01:11.41 | abrotman | ah .. |
| 01:12.09 | jZed | my upgrade from sarge to etch keeps seg faulting over unmet xorg dependencies, what can I do to either go back to sarge or on to etch? |
| 01:12.29 | wols | ~5h lying down doing nothing with a needle in the arm or 4x a day 25 minutes while IRCing, writing stuff, webbrowsing or gaming. I know what I take :) |
| 01:12.38 | abrotman | jZed: what's the error again ? |
| 01:12.40 | nvz | jzed, unmet dependencies dont cause segmentation violations |
| 01:12.45 | wols | jZed: manually install the dependencies for xorg |
| 01:12.50 | Caelum | querybts is in the reportbug package now |
| 01:12.55 | abrotman | jZed: dpkg --configure -a |
| 01:13.14 | jZed | I get the unmet dependency with dpkg --configure a |
| 01:13.14 | wols | jZed: and check your hardware. segfaults are not normal |
| 01:13.24 | replicah | how do i install php-common v 5.1.6-1 when i have 5.1.6-4 installed.. ? i need to roll back |
| 01:13.34 | wols | replicah: man dpkg |
| 01:13.34 | jZed | sarge worked on this newish dell for at least a year |
| 01:13.40 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 01:13.40 | dpkg | hmm... sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 01:13.53 | wols | jZed: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core |
| 01:14.14 | cunzhang | wols, abrotman ,thank you for your help. |
| 01:14.19 | replicah | wols: what option shoudl i be looking for? |
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| 01:14.39 | abrotman | replicah: why are you rolling back ? |
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| 01:14.57 | replicah | im dpkging a custom mssql package |
| 01:14.59 | Caelum | ugh, reportbug doesn't use readline |
| 01:15.10 | replicah | Preparing to replace php5-mssql 5.1.6-1 (using php5-mssql_5.1.6-1_i386.deb) ... |
| 01:15.10 | replicah | Unpacking replacement php5-mssql ... |
| 01:15.10 | replicah | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of php5-mssql: |
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| 01:15.12 | wols | mssql? |
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| 01:15.23 | replicah | sorry! |
| 01:15.23 | abrotman | !paster |
| 01:15.24 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 01:15.39 | wols | abrotman: change the custom package to have sane dependencies |
| 01:15.44 | abrotman | okay! |
| 01:15.46 | wols | replicah: I meant |
| 01:16.02 | cunzhang | abrotman, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=396657 |
| 01:16.12 | replicah | wols: i wouldnt have a clue how though, its not a text based file. |
| 01:16.26 | cunzhang | abrotman, I have given bts a report |
| 01:16.47 | jZed | I'm getting a lot of "failed to write to cache" I'm chrooted in from live knoppix |
| 01:16.50 | abrotman | cunzhang: good for you! |
| 01:17.09 | replicah | its a .deb file |
| 01:17.10 | abrotman | cunzhang: now you'll just have to wait for it to get fixed |
| 01:17.27 | abrotman | cunzhang: in the meantime .. dpkg-reconfigure locales .. and make sure they're being generated ? |
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| 01:17.30 | replicah | well.. obviously |
| 01:17.30 | replicah | :) |
| 01:17.58 | wols | replicah: and that matters how? |
| 01:18.07 | wols | deb files have deb sources you know... |
| 01:18.20 | replicah | well.. i have no idea how to change the package to have the same dependencies |
| 01:18.30 | replicah | its a bit over my head to be honest |
| 01:18.35 | wols | !tell replicah about nm guide |
| 01:18.51 | wols | then you should either wait til this problem is fixed (report a bug), or don't run sid/testing |
| 01:18.53 | cunzhang | abrotman, I don't want to change my locale |
| 01:18.53 | replicah | thanks wols |
| 01:19.10 | wols | cunzhang: but you obviously should |
| 01:19.31 | cunzhang | wols, why? |
| 01:19.41 | abrotman | cunzhang: just make sure it's being generated |
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| 01:20.09 | chafe | when i do apt-get update to update my list of packages from my repositories |
| 01:20.14 | chafe | does this work with aptitude as well? |
| 01:20.19 | chafe | they will be listed in aptitude |
| 01:20.25 | chafe | they use the same private database? |
| 01:20.29 | wols | cunzhang: cause those warnings are annoying and there for no reason at all except your laziness? |
| 01:20.40 | wols | chafe: yes |
| 01:20.43 | nvz | chafe you can do aptitude update, but yes |
| 01:21.02 | cunzhang | wols, abrotman ,thank you. Next time I will |
| 01:21.26 | wols | cunzhang: just do it now |
| 01:21.31 | wols | !locales |
| 01:21.31 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. You can override this in your personal dotfiles, of course (see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles) |
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| 01:23.18 | replicah | can you force dpkg? |
| 01:23.25 | nvz | to... ? |
| 01:23.39 | replicah | runa package regardless of deps? |
| 01:23.53 | wols | replicah: man dpkg will know |
| 01:24.13 | nvz | dpkg does runa package to begin with |
| 01:24.18 | nvz | doesn't |
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| 01:24.45 | wols | nvz: well it does run the various debian scripts inside a package :) |
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| 01:24.51 | Seb | what's the simplest way of fetching all the dependencies of a given package ? |
| 01:24.55 | Seb | as .deb files that is |
| 01:25.01 | wols | Seb: apt-get it's called |
| 01:25.24 | nvz | Seb apt-get install --download-only I think it is |
| 01:25.32 | Seb | nvz: aaaah thx |
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| 01:25.44 | Seb | wols: that was pretty unhelpful but I'm sure you realized that already. |
| 01:25.47 | nvz | I'm using a shitty java chat applet on a locked up XP machine right now |
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| 01:25.59 | grendal_prime | ok what is the quickest way to find out what my wireless cards chipset is? |
| 01:26.06 | Seb | nvz: hahahaha |
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| 01:26.14 | Seb | grendal_prime: lspci + google ? |
| 01:26.15 | nvz | grendal_prime lspci |
| 01:26.22 | wols | Seb: not using man apt-get is pretty lazy. I'm sure you realized that loong ago |
| 01:26.27 | nvz | seb not funny :P |
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| 01:26.44 | mondue | hi |
| 01:26.51 | nvz | I am at the library. I got a damn time counter on here I am allowed like 23 minues more for the day or something |
| 01:26.54 | wols | grendal_prime: update-pciids before lspci can help |
| 01:27.10 | wols | nvz: pay per minute deal? |
| 01:27.17 | Seb | nvz: is it gonna be enoug hfor your daily IRC fix ? :) |
| 01:27.17 | nvz | I dont pay for it |
| 01:27.25 | cunzhang | wols, but I don't know what you mean? |
| 01:27.33 | abrotman | nvz: what are you doing ? |
| 01:27.41 | wols | you're lucky. our libraries have pay per minute only. if they have inet connection at all |
| 01:27.43 | cunzhang | what should I change my locale to? |
| 01:27.45 | nvz | they changed stuff since I last was in town you have to login now with your library card and you get 120 minutes |
| 01:27.47 | mondue | which is the right dir to place those mplayer plugin .so files? |
| 01:27.52 | nvz | I guess its to enforce sharing |
| 01:27.59 | wols | cunzhang: depends where you live and what locale you want |
| 01:28.12 | wols | mondue: there are debs for it. use them |
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| 01:28.24 | wols | mondue: if you mean codecs |
| 01:28.43 | wols | !tell mondue about marillat |
| 01:28.50 | nvz | wols sewickley public library kicks ass, what can I say |
| 01:29.02 | wols | nvz: 120minutes ass? |
| 01:29.02 | mondue | wols: no, i am talking about mozilla plugins for mplayer. mplayerplug-in. |
| 01:29.07 | nvz | wols if only they had debian on it |
| 01:29.09 | grendal_prime | ya i dont get anything from that that actually looks like a wireless card |
| 01:29.11 | wols | mondue: there are debs for those too |
| 01:29.19 | grendal_prime | if i do dmesg though it gives me information |
| 01:29.21 | mondue | name? |
| 01:29.33 | abrotman | nvz: can't you convince them ? |
| 01:29.35 | nvz | wols I am sure its trivial to get around the time limit if I really wanted |
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| 01:29.52 | wols | mondue: apt-cache search plugin |grep mozilla |
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| 01:29.56 | grendal_prime | eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.3.5 |
| 01:30.05 | nvz | abrotman I dont spend that much time here.. and the tables all have power and ethernet if I wanted to just bring my own debian box |
| 01:30.06 | astronaute | hello guys |
| 01:30.13 | grendal_prime | it works...im just trying to get it to scan for existing networks.. |
| 01:30.15 | wols | grendal_prime: if it's in demesg it should have loaded the driver you need |
| 01:30.17 | chafe | i added the unstable repository to sources.list and i am still getting nothing but horribly old versions of everything... yes i did apt-get update |
| 01:30.18 | grendal_prime | it for some reason will not do that |
| 01:30.19 | abrotman | nvz: liveCD! |
| 01:30.24 | astronaute | can someone help me install frozen-bubble on 64bit distro plz |
| 01:30.30 | astronaute | http://pastebin.ca/233603 |
| 01:30.31 | mondue | wols: you know nuts about this. |
| 01:30.34 | nvz | abrotman all I got on me is sarge dvds |
| 01:30.35 | abrotman | apt-get install frozen-bubble ? |
| 01:30.41 | grendal_prime | wols, it did, but i can get it to scan for networks.. |
| 01:30.48 | abrotman | nvz: you should get something from live.debian.net when you have a chance |
| 01:30.49 | astronaute | abrotman: i want 2.0 with multi |
| 01:30.49 | grendal_prime | its driving me nuts. |
| 01:30.51 | wols | mondue: but you do? |
| 01:30.55 | abrotman | astronaute: well .. good for you |
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| 01:31.04 | abrotman | !info frozen-bubble sid |
| 01:31.08 | mondue | of course, except for what i want to know now. |
| 01:31.08 | dpkg | frozen-bubble: (Pop out the bubbles !), section games, is extra. Version: 2.0.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 143 kB, Installed size: 572 kB |
| 01:31.23 | nvz | abrotman I am most likely leaving soon anyhow.. if this dipshit calls me back or not |
| 01:31.29 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 01:31.35 | nvz | I am not sitting in sewickley all night |
| 01:31.42 | nvz | I've been here too long as it is |
| 01:31.43 | astronaute | abrotman: im on kubuntu edgy :/ |
| 01:31.51 | abrotman | astronaute: so go ask #kubuntu |
| 01:31.53 | wols | astronaute: then ask #kubuntu |
| 01:32.06 | astronaute | abrotman: no way to install it from source on 64 system you think ? |
| 01:32.06 | abrotman | astronaute: so go ask #kubuntu |
| 01:32.06 | nvz | all I needed to come here for was to get my free netlibrary account from one of thier pcs so I can checkout materials from home |
| 01:32.06 | astronaute | )))) |
| 01:32.08 | abrotman | !!!! |
| 01:32.09 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 01:32.13 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 01:32.13 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
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| 01:32.31 | wols | abrotman: dpkg has a point :) |
| 01:32.35 | cr3 | is there a way to get information about the memory on a single line, just like uptime does for the processor? |
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| 01:32.55 | abrotman | wols: just because he's right doesn't mean he has to announce it for everyone to see! |
| 01:33.07 | wols | cr3: memory on a single line? can you explain better what you mena? |
| 01:33.09 | wols | *mean |
| 01:33.19 | wols | abrotman: you have a point there :) |
| 01:33.24 | abrotman | like free .. but compressed |
| 01:33.29 | cr3 | wols: actually, free might do the trick |
| 01:33.48 | cunzhang | wols, thank you.I have know .I should run `LANG=C sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0`,then there will be no error about locale |
| 01:34.16 | nvz | actually looks like the pc right next to me doesnt have thie CybraryN software on it that times you |
| 01:34.24 | nvz | oh wait maybe it does |
| 01:35.22 | nvz | though since it loads after the actual windows login it seems its real easy to get around |
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| 01:36.14 | nvz | oh well I am leaving this is lame :P |
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| 01:38.02 | replicah | i'm having a ball with these packages :) |
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| 01:38.06 | replicah | absolute ball |
| 01:38.11 | abrotman | is that sarcasm ? |
| 01:38.17 | replicah | 100% sarcasm |
| 01:38.21 | jZed | my sarge to etch upgrade keeps seg faulting when trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libwx... some wx thing, but a bit ago it was a different file somewhere else |
| 01:38.23 | replicah | :wq |
| 01:38.32 | abrotman | no ? :) |
| 01:38.47 | abrotman | replicah: same error ? |
| 01:38.57 | replicah | nah i'm trying to compile a new package |
| 01:39.04 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 01:39.30 | jZed | dpkg: errror process x.deb trying to over /usr/lib/... which is also in package libwdbase2.6 |
| 01:39.30 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, jZed |
| 01:39.39 | replicah | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4320 |
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| 01:40.04 | replicah | do i have to paste the link in here? or does it do it automaticallY? |
| 01:40.16 | replicah | !pastebot |
| 01:40.17 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 01:40.26 | abrotman | replicah: you have to give it to us |
| 01:40.34 | replicah | ok |
| 01:40.43 | replicah | are you able to look at that link and translate the error for me? |
| 01:40.53 | sanmarcos | is there a command to print the user name? |
| 01:40.58 | sanmarcos | nmind |
| 01:40.59 | abrotman | finger |
| 01:41.04 | sanmarcos | $USER works too |
| 01:41.06 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: id -u; |
| 01:41.14 | dondelelcaro | sanmarcos: $USER isn't necessarily portable... |
| 01:41.26 | sanmarcos | its portable across zsh and bash, all I need :) |
| 01:41.27 | dondelelcaro | (or whoami or id -nu; |
| 01:42.14 | replicah | any ideas on the - http://channels.debian.net/paste/4320 issue? thanks! |
| 01:43.34 | abrotman | oh .. i thought he meant the 'real name' :) |
| 01:44.25 | replicah | i know its a stuff up in the control file.. |
| 01:44.31 | replicah | maybe i'll paste my control file to check out? |
| 01:44.38 | replicah | if anyone is familiar with that? |
| 01:44.43 | abrotman | you can try |
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| 01:45.09 | idonthaveonsodo | hi all |
| 01:45.24 | replicah | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4321 |
| 01:45.33 | idonthaveonsodo | how would grep for a specific string ? the string i am looking for cotains "-t" in it and it takes it as an argument to grep? |
| 01:46.16 | idonthaveonsodo | i have tried encapsulating the string with ' ' quoates and " " quotes, also tryed escaping the "-" character with a \ before it |
| 01:46.20 | abrotman | grep -- -t <file> ? |
| 01:46.21 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: that's just perl -lwe 'print +(getpwnam($ENV{USER}))[6]' |
| 01:46.44 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: for whoami ? ... i thought sanmarcos was looking to find the |
| 01:46.56 | abrotman | "Alex Brotman" part of the gecos |
| 01:47.07 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, that returns the entire gecos |
| 01:47.11 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 01:47.13 | sanmarcos | no, the username |
| 01:47.18 | sanmarcos | as in login name |
| 01:47.21 | dondelelcaro | doing something with it, I leave to you |
| 01:47.22 | idonthaveonsodo | abrotman: i dont want to have "-t" passed as an argument to grep... but it is taking it as such beacuse the string cotains -t in it |
| 01:47.24 | abrotman | sanmarcos: yeah .. i got that now |
| 01:47.37 | phpnuborn | i added 2 namesevers at the begining of resolv.conf and there were 2 already that i left in.. i would like to verify the new entries are getting called.. i'm told tcpdump can help with that.. i have installed it.. so can i filter the output by ip address or something? |
| 01:47.40 | sanmarcos | abrotman: god loves you |
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| 01:47.52 | abrotman | sanmarcos: i'm skeptical :) |
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| 01:51.03 | abrotman | idonthaveonsodo: i already gave you your answer |
| 01:51.43 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 01:51.43 | dpkg | hmm... mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 01:52.17 | idonthaveonsodo | it isnt working ... ithink i am not explaing correctly ... the string is not only "-t", for example it is something like "go-tgo" |
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| 01:52.46 | idonthaveonsodo | mmm... so maybe doing ... grep -- gotgo <file> ? |
| 01:52.48 | Caelum | anyone using the latest zsh-beta from sid? if so, does vim file<TAB> completion work for you? |
| 01:53.56 | Feax | what is the package for the GD library ? |
| 01:54.20 | abrotman | idonthaveonsodo: grep -- -t <fileyouwanttosearch> |
| 01:54.25 | replicah | i worked it out .. the problem was spaces in the control file.. who'd'a'thunk |
| 01:54.33 | Caelum | Feax: libgd2-xpm-dev |
| 01:54.34 | abrotman | Feax: apt-cache search libdg |
| 01:54.36 | abrotman | Feax: apt-cache search libgd |
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| 01:57.46 | Caelum | why does doing a cvs diff -rHEAD tell me about files that are no longer available that I didn't checkout... |
| 01:57.50 | idonthaveonsodo | abrotman: that searches for a string "-t" in file <the string i want to search> |
| 01:58.07 | abrotman | are you asking or telling ? |
| 01:58.30 | idonthaveonsodo | abrotman: i am telling you what happens when i do the command you told me todo |
| 01:58.39 | abrotman | isn't that what you asked us to do ? |
| 01:58.49 | idonthaveonsodo | no |
| 01:58.53 | abrotman | <idonthaveonsodo> how would grep for a specific string ? the string i am looking for cotains "-t" in it and it takes it as an argument to grep? |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | put a -- before the string oyu want to search for |
| 01:59.27 | abrotman | what is the *exact* command you're trying to run ? |
| 01:59.32 | idonthaveonsodo | right, i then tried to clarify that the string i want to search does not only contains "-t" in it.... it is something like "go-tgo" |
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| 02:01.03 | abrotman | what is the *exact* command you're trying to run ? |
| 02:01.14 | Feax | what is the touch to tape for the next word to search in vi ? |
| 02:01.31 | abrotman | hit / again |
| 02:02.05 | idonthaveonsodo | grep 'mike-thompson' <file> |
| 02:02.15 | idonthaveonsodo | thats the command i having problems with |
| 02:02.23 | abrotman | grep -- mike-thompson <file> .. doesn't work ? |
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| 02:03.19 | asg | abrotman: grepping mike thompson can be hazardous to your health |
| 02:03.24 | idonthaveonsodo | ok sorry that is working right .... the problem is with $ grep '-tushar' <file> |
| 02:03.32 | abrotman | dude .. use a -- |
| 02:03.35 | abrotman | no more ' |
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| 02:04.04 | abrotman | asg: i'd rather not! |
| 02:04.20 | idonthaveonsodo | abrotman : thanky ou |
| 02:04.27 | asg | abrotman: hence my important saftey tip |
| 02:04.54 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. well .. i'm not much of a grepper in public :) |
| 02:05.26 | asg | abrotman: public grepping is punishable by 5 days in the brig |
| 02:05.41 | abrotman | asg: depending on the grepped .. just might be worth it |
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| 02:06.04 | asg | abrotman: maybe, you could always awk(1) the piss out of someone |
| 02:06.10 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:07.08 | abrotman | makes typing hard eh ? |
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| 02:08.47 | g4lnx | how I can find a repository optimized to k6-2 ? if there's |
| 02:09.02 | abrotman | there isn't |
| 02:09.11 | asg | g4lnx: other than an optimized kernel and a libc for i686, you won't find one. |
| 02:09.23 | g4lnx | thks |
| 02:09.58 | g4lnx | I will make its dirty job |
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| 02:12.01 | g4lnx | anyone make this for another cpu ? i'm from slack and try 3.1r3 and need tips, a newbie debian guy |
| 02:12.39 | TIger_IT | How can i enable udma7 mode? please........I´ve tried in several ways! |
| 02:13.44 | leOn | ouch |
| 02:13.45 | leOn | dpkg: version '>= 2.3' has bad syntax: version string has embedded spaces |
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| 02:15.57 | odla | yo |
| 02:15.59 | grew | hmm |
| 02:16.09 | odla | brr..it's -15 out |
| 02:16.09 | grew | apt-get install mozilla-firefox installed firefox 1.5 |
| 02:16.20 | grew | dpkg seems to say it would get me 2.0 |
| 02:16.27 | odla | grew: no 1.5 is in the repos |
| 02:16.34 | odla | grew: 2.0 isn't and it won't be |
| 02:16.37 | grew | mmk |
| 02:17.14 | odla | !tell grew about iceweasel |
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| 02:18.43 | idonthaveonsodo | ok, is there a command i could use to delete a specific line number from a file ? |
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| 02:20.42 | dendrite | idonthaveonsodo: Is this something you need to script? It's not super easy. Awk can do it... |
| 02:20.50 | leOn | idonthaveonsodo: vi file |
| 02:21.03 | leOn | type the nr and then press G |
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| 02:21.15 | idonthaveonsodo | leOn: there are a lot of lines |
| 02:21.19 | abrotman | the nr ? |
| 02:21.20 | leOn | when you get there type dd |
| 02:21.23 | g4lnx | theres someone howto to optimize ? nothing special just insert -march=k6-2 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer |
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| 02:21.35 | abrotman | g4lnx: don't bother |
| 02:21.35 | idonthaveonsodo | so i was thinking of maybe a program i could use in a script? |
| 02:21.48 | leOn | abrotman: nr == number |
| 02:21.50 | g4lnx | ok |
| 02:22.02 | Kassah2 | does anyone know of a good tutorial to make a deb for something proprietary like vmware-server that only includes a shell script in it's setup and doesn't use nice things like make? |
| 02:22.03 | g4lnx | sed make this very fine |
| 02:22.26 | idonthaveonsodo | g4lnx: how would i do that with sed? |
| 02:22.42 | g4lnx | i need see a howto, but works |
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| 02:23.18 | abrotman | g4lnx: it's not worth the effort |
| 02:23.38 | dvs | g4lnx: #gentoo ;-) |
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| 02:24.14 | abrotman | !pt |
| 02:24.14 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:24.26 | g4lnx | dvs i dont like gentoo \o/ |
| 02:24.33 | abrotman | then stop trying to compile stuff |
| 02:25.24 | idonthaveonsodo | dendrite: how to do it with awk ? is that very complicated? |
| 02:26.29 | dendrite | idonthaveonsodo: Answer my question. Do you need to script this, or can you just use vi? |
| 02:26.54 | idonthaveonsodo | i cant do it with vi, there are alot of lines i need to delete |
| 02:26.57 | g4lnx | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.58 | idonthaveonsodo | over 300 |
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| 02:27.35 | dendrite | idonthaveonsodo: I'm not sure you can do it with head+tail... |
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| 02:27.51 | dendrite | I'm trying to remember the awk syntax to match a particular line. |
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| 02:28.30 | abrotman | man awk ? |
| 02:28.36 | Phated | idonthaveonsodo: Go to beginning of the first line you need to delete. Hold down d while in command mode in vim. Wait till you see the beginning of the last line you need to delete appear. Slow down and hit d twice to delete a line at a time. (It's faster than figuring out scripting ;)) |
| 02:28.52 | dendrite | abrotman: Yeah, I'm workin' on it. =) |
| 02:29.01 | idonthaveonsodo | Phated: there are over 300 lines, and not consecutive |
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| 02:29.09 | g4lnx | $ sed '5 d' to remove 5th line |
| 02:29.19 | idonthaveonsodo | grlnx: thats great |
| 02:29.29 | idonthaveonsodo | ill try it that way |
| 02:29.30 | Phated | idonthaveonsodo: Oh, sucky. Then unless you know what each line that you need to remove is, scripting isn't going to help. |
| 02:29.34 | asg | dendrite: awk '/regex/' <file> |
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| 02:30.19 | dendrite | asg: Right, but awk can address specific lines. Anyhow, looks like g4lnx got a better idea. |
| 02:30.37 | g4lnx | i read the faq |
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| 02:30.56 | Phated | Yeah. Why isn't idonthaveonsodo reading the manpage for awk/sed/whatever on his own again? |
| 02:31.12 | asg | dendrite: sorry, I missed the full context of you question. |
| 02:31.40 | dendrite | asg: I was just trying to solve a fun little puzzle here. It's been *ages* since I worked with Awk... |
| 02:32.15 | dendrite | Once Perl came along, that was it for awk... |
| 02:32.20 | idonthaveonsodo | im thinking... if i delete a line like : sed '5 d' ... then the file would have 1 line less... and the other line numbers of lines i want to delete wouldnt be correct .... |
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| 02:32.34 | dendrite | idonthaveonsodo: Start with largest line number. |
| 02:32.47 | asg | dendrite: true though in some pipelines, awk is more efficient. |
| 02:32.49 | idonthaveonsodo | dendrite: thats clever |
| 02:32.54 | dendrite | idonthaveonsodo: Not really. |
| 02:33.03 | dvs | !prize dendrite |
| 02:33.05 | dendrite | asg: Yeah, but sed trumps awk =) |
| 02:33.35 | g4lnx | a very good sed exercise is sed sokoban aurelio.net/sed/sokoban/ |
| 02:33.35 | asg | dendrite: and cut(1) does sed in certain problem spaces ;) |
| 02:33.41 | Phated | A very -small- one, dendrite? |
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| 02:33.55 | dendrite | Phated: You should have seen that medal!!! =) |
| 02:34.07 | asg | !fluffle Phated |
| 02:34.37 | Phated | dendrite: ... this so rapidly approaches a point where I start giggling about size references, so... no, I'd rather not :) |
| 02:34.51 | dendrite | Phated: :P |
| 02:35.12 | dendrite | "docking..." |
| 02:35.22 | Phated | "mounting" is the obvious one, surely. |
| 02:35.39 | dendrite | Phated: In a space station context? I didn't see those videos... |
| 02:35.59 | Phated | dendrite: Oh, in a space station context. I was thinking of hardware. |
| 02:36.14 | k-man_ | sed sokoban is twisted |
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| 02:36.25 | k-man_ | in a good way of course |
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| 02:38.21 | Feax | Hi, I have apache installed, http://localhost/mrtg/ works, but http://83.198.47.225/mrtg/ don't work ( it is my IP ) how can I solve this ? |
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| 02:41.44 | Phated | Feax: Going through a router? forwarding a port? ISP doesn't let through port 80 from the outside, which is what a request to an IP like 83.x.x.x will be coming from? |
| 02:42.31 | Feax | okay |
| 02:43.18 | dendrite | Feax: Can you be more descriptive than "doesn't work" ??? What *do* *you* get instead of what you were expecting? |
| 02:43.35 | Feax | thanks a lot |
| 02:44.34 | astronaute | abrotman: can you please give me the source for 64 version of 2.0 frozen bubble please ? (i will take only .deb to install it on kubuntu) |
| 02:45.00 | abrotman | dude .. GO TO #kubuntu |
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| 02:45.11 | Feax | where can I get the MRTG graphs for CPU ? |
| 02:45.16 | Phated | astronaute: Why can't you use p.d.o to find and download it, if you insist on trying to fuck up your (non-debian) distro? |
| 02:45.22 | abrotman | astronaute: we do not support non-Debian distos in this channel |
| 02:45.36 | astronaute | abrotman: i asked you the source for debian sid actually =) |
| 02:45.37 | abrotman | distros even :) |
| 02:45.42 | astronaute | no .deb 64 for kubuntu |
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| 02:45.55 | Phated | In which case, download source? |
| 02:46.17 | astronaute | Phated: i have the source but fail on compil glib2.0 |
| 02:46.58 | abrotman | so ask #kubuntu how to fix it |
| 02:46.58 | Phated | astronaute: Ask #kubuntu. |
| 02:47.22 | g4lnx | http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php its not for geeks ? |
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| 02:54.29 | jZed | I chrooted in and finished the upgrade sarge to etch errors on samba, fam, swat, otherwise ok, but when I try to login, still can´t type |
| 02:55.10 | michael117 | How can I enter a secure repository key for apt to use? |
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| 02:58.16 | jZed | anyone with any ideas? the keyboard works and is connected to the computer but debian login will not recognize it |
| 03:00.20 | abrotman | michael117: what's the key ? |
| 03:00.31 | abrotman | usb keyboard ? |
| 03:00.53 | jZed | ps2 keyboard through a switch to usb |
| 03:00.57 | jZed | worked fine in sarge |
| 03:01.05 | jZed | works at lilo menu |
| 03:01.07 | abrotman | might be missing a module that isn't loaded .. like usbhid |
| 03:01.48 | michael117 | abrotman: I was following what was on this page: http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:01.55 | jZed | so I should boot from a live disk, chroot in and try to load usbhid, anything else? |
| 03:02.07 | abrotman | !apt-secure |
| 03:02.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key> |
| 03:02.26 | abrotman | it has the instructions for the key *on the page* |
| 03:07.00 | jZed | modprobe -l yields FATAL could not load /lib/...modules.dep No such file |
| 03:07.08 | replicah | how do i check the size of all my drives? i forget |
| 03:07.14 | abrotman | df |
| 03:07.21 | abrotman | depmod -a |
| 03:07.25 | replicah | thanks |
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| 03:08.30 | jZed | depmod -a for me? gives similar error as modprobe -l |
| 03:08.46 | abrotman | why doesn't the debian install boot ? |
| 03:08.56 | jZed | me? |
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| 03:10.14 | d0uglas | <-- thinks people should use the /me command more sparingly |
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| 03:10.19 | replicah | i'm trying to install symfony -> get this error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted .. i think its a php cli error? |
| 03:10.23 | replicah | anyone recognise it? |
| 03:11.06 | SeanTater | every time I print to a cups server, the other cups server gets it and begins printing, but it prints two dollar signs. That's it. Other linux computers can print to that cups server without problems. Any ideas what I;m doing wrong? |
| 03:11.26 | jZed | so is there a way to revert back to sarge from a failed upgrade to etch? |
| 03:11.39 | abrotman | wait .. no i don't! |
| 03:11.49 | pingu | SeanTater: configuring it differently than the other linux computers? |
| 03:12.04 | aFlag | jZed, not really, not an easy way afaik |
| 03:12.18 | pingu | jZed: it's generally going to break stuff. |
| 03:12.27 | jZed | any suggestion for getting etch to work then? |
| 03:12.56 | SeanTater | pingu: it's configured the same |
| 03:12.59 | leOn | there was someone here about vmware packages before right? |
| 03:13.00 | abrotman | jZed: why doiesn't it boot ? |
| 03:13.02 | pingu | jZed: what's broken? |
| 03:13.07 | pingu | SeanTater: same versions of everything? |
| 03:13.19 | SeanTater | pingu: let me check |
| 03:13.34 | pingu | SeanTater: also, are you printing in exactly the same way? |
| 03:13.47 | jZed | it boots, it does stuff like getting a DHCP, it gets to the prompt, it asks for a login, but it does not accept keyboard input |
| 03:14.00 | pingu | Impressive. |
| 03:14.04 | abrotman | jZed: did you try plugging the keyboard directly into the box ? |
| 03:14.06 | jZed | only way I can do stuff on it is chrooted in from a live disk |
| 03:14.19 | jZed | yes I tried direct plugin, no joy |
| 03:14.43 | SeanTater | pingu: I;m using kprinter on both... (still looking for the versions) |
| 03:14.52 | pingu | jZed: cp /home/ /mnt/backupdisk/ && rm -rf / |
| 03:14.54 | abrotman | jZed: can you ssh in ? |
| 03:14.56 | ehj20 | jZed: you don't have a telnet or ssh daemon installed by any chance? |
| 03:15.04 | abrotman | pingu: that's not funny ass |
| 03:15.14 | pingu | It wasn't a joke. |
| 03:15.16 | jZed | Ill see if it works |
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| 03:15.26 | abrotman | pingu: you're not helping |
| 03:15.32 | pingu | Going from sarge to edgy is going to give you a fairly bent system. |
| 03:15.40 | pingu | It's really better off to back up and install clean. |
| 03:15.58 | abrotman | he went to etch .. keep up |
| 03:16.06 | pingu | Ooh, sorry. |
| 03:16.15 | pingu | Carry on :) |
| 03:16.37 | d0uglas | edgy? isn't ubuntuspeak? |
| 03:17.10 | SeanTater | pingu: 1.2.2 (the one that won;t print), 1.2.0 (The one that will print), 1.1.99(rc3), the one with the printer |
| 03:17.56 | pingu | SeanTater: try installing 1.2.2 on the one that will print, if dependancies will allow. |
| 03:18.05 | jZed | no I don think I can ssh in |
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| 03:18.17 | jZed | but I can chroot in, what should I look for? |
| 03:18.30 | pingu | If it breaks, you will need to play with 1.2.2 and see what's broken/changed. |
| 03:18.43 | replicah | how do you check ram? i need to cat something.. |
| 03:18.44 | replicah | :) |
| 03:18.56 | replicah | by check i mean.. amount of |
| 03:19.05 | pingu | replicah: you didn't mean how to check how much ram you have with cat did you? |
| 03:19.12 | replicah | yeah |
| 03:19.17 | pingu | cat /proc/meminfo |
| 03:19.23 | replicah | thats the chestnut! thanks |
| 03:19.24 | pingu | Better yet, use free |
| 03:19.25 | SeanTater | pingu: upgrading now |
| 03:19.37 | abrotman | jZed: try putting the usbhid module in /etc/modules maybe |
| 03:19.42 | jZed | keep cating bigger and bigger files until you run out of memory |
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| 03:22.53 | danny | trying to burn DVD with etch, keeps saying wrong media type, but i think it is correct and help |
| 03:23.05 | danny | using k3b |
| 03:23.30 | SeanTater | pingu: still prints |
| 03:23.37 | pingu | SeanTater: not that then :( |
| 03:23.49 | michael117 | abrotman: I keep getting "-bash: apt-key: command not found" when I try to enter the repository key |
| 03:23.57 | SeanTater | pingu: should I try upgrading the one I'm trying to connect to (from 1.1.99 to 2.2?) |
| 03:24.02 | pingu | Are you sure all the relevant configuration is identical? Are they the same distribution? |
| 03:24.13 | pingu | SeanTater: if you run out of other things to test. |
| 03:25.18 | SeanTater | pingu: The one that can print and the one with the printer are ubuntu. the one that cannot print is debian. Otherwise, their configuration is identical |
| 03:25.55 | abrotman | michael117: which versino of debian ? |
| 03:26.24 | replicah | how do you get to the end of the doc in VIM? |
| 03:26.37 | replicah | all good ]] |
| 03:26.40 | replicah | did the trick |
| 03:27.35 | abrotman | :$ |
| 03:28.12 | wireddd | I probably ought to learn how to use vim |
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| 03:28.24 | replicah | haha.. its a pain in the ass |
| 03:28.43 | michael117 | abrotman: Sarge. Is there a command to find out the more specific version? |
| 03:28.45 | replicah | look sorry aobut all these questions, im just trying to build 4 servers - in a total rush.. and im forgetting everything |
| 03:28.56 | replicah | does anyone know what package apache2-ssl-certificate is in? |
| 03:29.12 | danny | anyone know what could be wrong with my DVD Burning on etch, lite on dvd r/rw, keeps saying media is unformatted or wrong type |
| 03:29.32 | abrotman | michael117: sarge doesn't ahve apt-key |
| 03:29.46 | abrotman | !find apache2-ssl-certificate sarge |
| 03:29.56 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apache2-ssl-certificate' (1): (/usr/sbin/apache2-ssl-certificate) in net/apache2-common. |
| 03:30.00 | michael117 | abrotman: Is there a newer version of debian I could upgrade to? |
| 03:30.08 | replicah | !find apache2-ssl-certificate etch |
| 03:30.16 | replicah | that dpkg bot is fantastic! |
| 03:30.24 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'apache2-ssl-certificate' returned no results. |
| 03:30.38 | abrotman | i think it's make-ssl-cert or somehting now |
| 03:31.46 | replicah | !find make-ssl-cert etch |
| 03:31.54 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'make-ssl-cert' (1): (/usr/sbin/make-ssl-cert) in utils/ssl-cert. |
| 03:32.13 | abrotman | !tell replicah about search |
| 03:32.21 | SeanTater | pingu: I tried the same "ok".txt thing on both -- worked on the ubuntu one, not etch. -- again |
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| 03:32.31 | replicah | is there anything dpkg can't do.. |
| 03:32.48 | SeanTater | !confuse replicah |
| 03:32.49 | dpkg | Yes, where is their pants tomorrow, replicah? wellies of the people's republic of liechtenstein with extra cheese |
| 03:33.33 | replicah | So true.. so very true! |
| 03:33.41 | replicah | dpkg for governer of california |
| 03:33.58 | replicah | DPKG FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA!!!!! |
| 03:34.09 | odla | wireddd: learn emacs don't bother with vim :p |
| 03:34.14 | replicah | !confuse California |
| 03:34.14 | dpkg | No, who was our gerbil today, California? pants of the dictatorship of tahiti with extra anchovies |
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| 03:35.21 | wireddd | I tried emacs, but it sucks :P |
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| 03:37.49 | krenin | hello |
| 03:38.56 | replicah | heyya im having issues setting up the ssl cert |
| 03:39.01 | replicah | can someone run me through it? |
| 03:39.02 | replicah | for etch? |
| 03:39.04 | replicah | apache2 |
| 03:39.13 | replicah | many thanks |
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| 03:40.30 | beardy | wireddd: You didn't try hard enough then. |
| 03:41.08 | beardy | wireddd: Try vim then. I bet a beer that you will say that it sucks too, in five minutes, though. |
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| 03:43.47 | replicah | this is total bs.. |
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| 03:43.53 | replicah | i have all the apache2 packages installed |
| 03:44.08 | replicah | but it still says apache2-ssl-certificate doesnt exist |
| 03:44.09 | replicah | BS |
| 03:44.16 | SeanTater | replicah: but do you have apache-ssl installed? |
| 03:44.30 | epsilon | apache2 contains ssl |
| 03:44.36 | replicah | yeah its in apache2 |
| 03:44.37 | beardy | You most likely have to create a certificate for your machine. |
| 03:44.37 | epsilon | no need for apache(1)-ssl |
| 03:44.44 | SeanTater | epsilon: okay |
| 03:44.51 | replicah | ive got: apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libmagic1 mime-support openssl ssl-cert libapr0 libexpat1 libpcre3 libssl0.9.8 libsybdb5 libxml2 libct3 |
| 03:45.09 | epsilon | did you create the cert during the installation? |
| 03:45.18 | replicah | no just trying to create it now |
| 03:45.19 | SeanTater | replicah: dpkg -L them and see if thay have the files you are looking for |
| 03:45.28 | beardy | If you tried to search for a apache ssl howto instead of whineing you probably could have it working now. |
| 03:45.34 | replicah | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/349 |
| 03:45.45 | replicah | i did.. but thanks for the helpful advice anyway beardy |
| 03:45.46 | abrotman | did you even try make-ssl-cert ? |
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| 03:45.53 | epsilon | apache2 has seceral tools, just run apache<tab><tab> and list them |
| 03:46.04 | replicah | yeah i did, it didn't seem like the right tool though? |
| 03:46.09 | replicah | maybe i'm wrong |
| 03:46.14 | SeanTater | epsilon: doing that as root may yield more results |
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| 03:46.36 | markedwards | having trouble with debuild, can someone give me some advice? |
| 03:46.44 | replicah | maybe im having a path issue? and it just cant find the tools? |
| 03:46.50 | SeanTater | markedwards: debuild? |
| 03:47.03 | SeanTater | markedwards: not apt-build or apt-get ? |
| 03:47.18 | markedwards | SeanTater: I'm doing a custom build of netatalk and I'm getting: gpg: skipped "Sebastian Rittau <srittau@debian.org>": secret key not available |
| 03:47.47 | SeanTater | markedwards: never heard of it |
| 03:47.50 | SeanTater | markedwards: sorry |
| 03:49.02 | markedwards | can anyone recommend something other than using debuild -us -uc to bypass the gpg stuff? |
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| 03:50.33 | TIger_IT | Sorry........ how can I execute a .BIN ? |
| 03:50.56 | epsilon | depends what's in it |
| 03:51.08 | abrotman | ./blah.bin |
| 03:51.16 | abrotman | TIger_IT: what is it ? |
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| 03:51.32 | TIger_IT | abrotman: thanks. it´s Google Earth :) |
| 03:51.44 | Jahboy | anyone know where I can find a linux driver for rt2500usb |
| 03:51.49 | Jahboy | it's for a linksys wireless card |
| 03:51.51 | epsilon | mode +x and run it |
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| 03:52.04 | abrotman | epsilon: he didn't ask that part! |
| 03:52.07 | TIger_IT | epsilon: thanks !!! |
| 03:52.14 | epsilon | .oO there's a google-earth client for linux? |
| 03:52.22 | TIger_IT | epsilon: Yeah! |
| 03:52.27 | wireddd | where? |
| 03:52.33 | TIger_IT | wait |
| 03:52.37 | SeanTater | epsilon: yes, I think so |
| 03:52.49 | SeanTater | epsilon: the license is a bit restrictive I think though |
| 03:53.18 | epsilon | doesn't wonder me, cause of the maps... |
| 03:53.29 | TIger_IT | GoogleEarthLinux.bin |
| 03:53.30 | g4lnx | Jahboy on slack i got run from source with a pci board, easy ./configure&&make&&make install |
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| 03:53.40 | TIger_IT | GoogleEarthLinux.bin.1 |
| 03:53.48 | TIger_IT | I´ve these files......... |
| 03:53.51 | Jahboy | g4lnx, where can I get it from |
| 03:53.59 | g4lnx | google |
| 03:54.41 | d0uglas | epsilon: not only is there google earth for linux, but with linux you can use kismet and a python script to output GPS data of access points gathered from wardriving into the google earth .kmz format |
| 03:54.47 | TIger_IT | wireddd: I don;t know where I´ve found Google Earg |
| 03:54.57 | TIger_IT | Google Earh |
| 03:54.57 | d0uglas | which is elite |
| 03:55.16 | epsilon | aha... |
| 03:55.33 | odla | wireddd: you could also just use gedit or nano |
| 03:55.44 | odla | wireddd: or oo.org2 writer |
| 03:55.45 | odla | he he |
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| 03:55.54 | abrotman | !info sex woody |
| 03:55.58 | Jahboy | g4lnx, I think i just found something on sourceforge |
| 03:56.00 | dpkg | sex: (Simple editor for X), section editors, is optional. Version: 0.19.1-2 (woody), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 03:56.02 | d0uglas | efnet's gone soft |
| 03:56.37 | odla | abrotman: you've been waiting to do that for a while, eh? |
| 03:56.37 | g4lnx | i dont remember, but the wiki is the correct place |
| 03:56.37 | abrotman | odla: i've known about it for a long time |
| 03:57.09 | odla | is sex available for sid? |
| 03:57.16 | wireddd | odla: yes I know I use nano |
| 03:57.22 | wireddd | TIger_IT: I found it |
| 03:57.34 | abrotman | odla: it was abandoned long ago AFAIK |
| 03:58.20 | TIger_IT | wireddd: where ? |
| 03:58.20 | odla | :/ |
| 03:58.24 | wireddd | TIger_IT: its on the google earth download page... |
| 03:59.00 | Jahboy | g4lnx, I found several places to link to it, but it looks like the site is down |
| 03:59.37 | g4lnx | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.39 | Jahboy | yeah, i was directed to rt2x00.serialmonkey.com from several sites, but I kept getting a php script error |
| 04:00.48 | g4lnx | I have sources from cvs on rt2x00-cvs-daily-2005100608.tar.gz |
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| 04:00.58 | Jahboy | I think I may have found one from Ralink's website |
| 04:01.21 | g4lnx | no Its not a gnu/linux friends |
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| 04:02.13 | g4lnx | guy the better thing its change for other hw, i dont purchase this nic again |
| 04:02.36 | pumpkin0 | if i run shutdown from a xterm the enter-key is stuck down. why ? |
| 04:03.45 | abrotman | pumpkin0: that used to happen to me .. it didn't stop it from shutting down . i never looked into it more :) |
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| 04:05.37 | abrotman | !info base-files etch |
| 04:05.40 | dpkg | base-files: (Debian base system miscellaneous files), section admin, is required. Version: 3.1.16 (etch), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
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| 04:07.24 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: it seems to affect the shutdown every 50-100 shutdowns (xterm keeps scrolling, nothing else happens. the enter-key is also happening in other applications/xterms if i switch focus). And it does not happen outside X. I´m a bit puzzled about the whole thing ... |
| 04:08.04 | abrotman | that didn't happen to me |
| 04:08.28 | g4lnx | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:09.29 | pumpkin0 | g4lnx: never tried that one... i wil note it for the next time. |
| 04:09.53 | g4lnx | use with care, will reboot |
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| 04:11.26 | g4lnx | i have a problem with my xorg, which lock the control-key, but i dont know if is a special characterist of my kvm |
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| 04:14.26 | mentor | Feh |
| 04:14.33 | mentor | Completely can't do epiphany Level 6 |
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| 04:19.34 | replicah | heya all, i cant start apache2, because in my /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf it says the Add type is wrong.. on this line.. /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf ...... any ideas whats wrong? |
| 04:20.53 | replicah | oops.. that second line was supposed to say AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 |
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| 04:25.48 | gomo | hey |
| 04:25.56 | gomo | I have a slight problem with my debian install |
| 04:26.05 | replicah | hi |
| 04:26.07 | gomo | Just did a sid upgrade which I hadn't done in a few months |
| 04:26.18 | gomo | Now all my GTK2 fonts look like little squares |
| 04:26.23 | gomo | Aaaall of them |
| 04:26.42 | gomo | So it's kind of bizarre and I have to use BitchX instead of Xchat |
| 04:26.44 | gomo | :( |
| 04:27.07 | gomo | Any clues on why this happens? I already apt-get install --reinstalled all the fonts packages |
| 04:27.24 | gomo | But it's most likely config file related, do you know which package I should purge? |
| 04:27.50 | gomo | I looks kinda leet tho |
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| 04:29.06 | gomo | oops |
| 04:29.20 | gomo | if someone said anything useful while i wasn't here, can you repeat? |
| 04:29.32 | replicah | you just missed all the answers |
| 04:29.34 | replicah | ;) |
| 04:29.35 | gomo | damn |
| 04:29.47 | replicah | jk. i think everyones passed out |
| 04:29.50 | gomo | yeah right |
| 04:30.03 | gomo | This little squares thing isn't funny |
| 04:30.25 | gomo | Fonts in Linux suck I have a problem with fonts every year |
| 04:30.43 | gomo | I don't know what's so hard about a single freaking directory where you stick your fonts |
| 04:30.48 | gomo | and that's it |
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| 04:30.54 | gomo | no XFS, no DEFOMA, no FONTCONFIG |
| 04:31.07 | gomo | no little squares |
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| 04:31.52 | gomo | argh |
| 04:32.20 | gomo | you know what, this is so window-esque i will try rebooting |
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| 04:35.32 | chafe | WHY do i not have any recent packages? i added the unstable repository to my sources.list |
| 04:35.40 | chafe | i still have no option but to install horribly old versions of everything |
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| 04:35.56 | gomo | chafe: update? |
| 04:36.02 | chafe | gomo i did update |
| 04:36.03 | craigevil | chafe did you do apt-get update |
| 04:36.07 | chafe | craigevil yes |
| 04:36.17 | chafe | can someone suggest me the best unstable repo to use |
| 04:36.20 | craigevil | sdo you have pinning in apt pref? |
| 04:36.28 | chafe | im sorry id like a quick answer i want to be sure i have the right garbage here |
| 04:36.39 | chafe | what is pinning |
| 04:37.00 | gomo | how on earth am i supposed to read email with little squares??? |
| 04:37.03 | craigevil | !pinning |
| 04:37.03 | dpkg | apt-pinning is probably read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning |
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| 04:37.20 | gomo | no mwilson around? |
| 04:37.27 | elw | why is ubuntu better than debian if it came from debian? |
| 04:37.28 | odla | chafe: the best unstable repo to use? huh? |
| 04:37.36 | odla | elw: don't troll |
| 04:37.39 | odla | elw: ask #ubuntu |
| 04:37.40 | gomo | no ugly #debian admin to enlighten me? |
| 04:38.06 | craigevil | elw ubuntu isnt better than Debian |
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| 04:40.17 | craigevil | gomo have you tried dpkg-reconfigure fonts or fontconfig-fonts |
| 04:40.24 | odla | craigevil: well they do have nicer purposed icons for iceweasel |
| 04:40.32 | odla | craigevil: ubuntu that is |
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| 04:41.10 | craigevil | i m using the icon from the wiki, which i think came from ubuntu; but ubuntu is using Firefox with the Mozilla logos |
| 04:43.58 | odla | craigevil: yeah i stole my iceweasel icon from their wiki |
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| 04:44.22 | replicah | hey i really really need help with this, if possible.. |
| 04:44.32 | replicah | Starting web server (apache2)...Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf: |
| 04:44.39 | replicah | Starting web server (apache2)...Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf: |
| 04:44.39 | replicah | Invalid command 'AddType', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 04:44.39 | replicah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.46 | odla | replicah: have you tried #apache |
| 04:44.52 | replicah | ok, will do :) |
| 04:44.53 | odla | replicah: btw...don't paste here |
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| 04:44.58 | replicah | sorry, didnt mean tot do that |
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| 04:53.27 | chafe | installing debian stable was a horrible idea |
| 04:53.39 | chafe | is there any way i can "upgrade" to the testing release? |
| 04:53.47 | craigevil | go with the Etch netinstall |
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| 04:53.53 | chafe | yea |
| 04:53.58 | chafe | but i want to keep what i already have |
| 04:54.01 | chafe | can i upgrade? |
| 04:54.14 | Agrajag- | chafe: yeah, change your /etc/apt/sources.list to use etch instead of sarge and do apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 04:54.19 | chafe | or does this cause package conflicts, like i am seeing trying to use unstable repositories |
| 04:54.35 | Agrajag- | should be able to upgrade to etch fine |
| 04:54.46 | chafe | yea Agrajag- i havent done the dist-upgrade but when upgrading some of my programs i am getting package version conflicts |
| 04:54.58 | ehj20 | chafe: have you tried the backports? |
| 04:55.00 | chafe | what repositories should i use if i want to do dist-upgrade? |
| 04:55.34 | chafe | ej20 i am using a backport repository i dont remember wich one it is |
| 04:55.37 | chafe | i found it on apt-get.org |
| 04:55.46 | chafe | with the long title explaining it |
| 04:56.01 | Agrajag- | chafe: only use standard repositories and you shouldn't have a problem |
| 04:56.22 | ehj20 | if the backports are designed for stable then theoretically you shouldn't have a problem |
| 04:56.25 | chafe | Agrajag- you mean just change the word stabe to unstable in the repositories that come in sources.list already? |
| 04:56.36 | Agrajag- | chafe: no, testing, not stable |
| 04:56.41 | Agrajag- | err unstable |
| 04:56.41 | chafe | testing |
| 04:56.45 | chafe | ok |
| 04:56.54 | chafe | but either way that should work? |
| 04:56.55 | chafe | thats good |
| 04:57.03 | chafe | how long will the dist-update take lmaof |
| 04:57.22 | craigevil | use testing, running unstable isnt recommended unless you know how to fix problems |
| 04:57.27 | Agrajag- | chafe: 48 |
| 04:57.34 | ehj20 | chafe: it's a one way process, mind... |
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| 05:00.59 | ehj20 | chafe: have you used the www.backports.org repositories? These are generally the best and should be compatible. Testing/Etch is fine, but things do break fom time to time |
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| 05:05.13 | chafe | the one i added to my sources.list was xaranet.de/debian-backports |
| 05:05.20 | chafe | i will add the backports.org |
| 05:05.28 | chafe | also i think im going to go for the dist-update |
| 05:05.52 | chafe | and leave it overnight or something |
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| 05:12.15 | shinobi2 | what's a good calculator to do factorials? |
| 05:12.51 | aFlag | i'd suggest writing your factorial function in python or haskell and using the interactive interpreter |
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| 05:14.34 | sanmarcos | how was the first compiler compiled if there was no compiler? |
| 05:15.39 | shinobi2 | aFlag: i am checking my factorial function |
| 05:16.03 | aFlag | sanmarcos, it was just assembled |
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| 05:16.09 | shinobi2 | sanmarcos: i think the egg come first |
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| 05:16.20 | sanmarcos | aFlag: as in 0101010 ? |
| 05:16.25 | sanmarcos | thats some hardcore shit |
| 05:17.01 | epsilon | sanmarcos: imagine ancient people built IC and CPU in that way |
| 05:17.15 | epsilon | groovy, isn't it? |
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| 05:17.31 | Tallu| | sanmarcos: you might want to read up on machine language and assembly ;) |
| 05:18.16 | aFlag | sanmarcos, no, as in |
| 05:18.17 | aFlag | ld %eax, %ebx |
| 05:18.18 | sanmarcos | yep |
| 05:18.21 | aFlag | mul ... |
| 05:18.34 | aFlag | and so on |
| 05:18.36 | sanmarcos | also, anybody using evolution with mbox, is there a way for it when you empty trash to purge the messages from the mbox files? |
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| 05:19.37 | aFlag | that's why the first compiler wasn't as good as today's |
| 05:19.41 | aFlag | well |
| 05:19.44 | aFlag | that's one of the reasons |
| 05:20.06 | aFlag | as for the evolution question, I don't use it :( |
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| 05:20.41 | chafe | so if i just do a dist-update |
| 05:20.45 | chafe | with the main repos |
| 05:20.50 | black_13 | how do i save my command so that i persists to the next login? |
| 05:20.51 | chafe | do i have any chance of stuff not working when its done? |
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| 05:23.54 | aFlag | chafe, sure |
| 05:24.00 | chafe | sure what |
| 05:24.02 | aFlag | black_13, what do you mean? |
| 05:24.31 | aFlag | whenever you change from one version to the other you have a chance of things will stop working |
| 05:24.52 | aFlag | usually it doesn't happen to the whole system, though |
| 05:25.10 | chafe | ah ok |
| 05:25.15 | aFlag | and I've done version upgrades where no problem happened |
| 05:25.26 | aFlag | but sometimes they do happen |
| 05:26.42 | black_13 | aFlag after i shut down my system and then restart my history file is empty |
| 05:27.55 | aFlag | you mean .bash_history? |
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| 05:28.13 | Twistedemo | deadcat, you know c dude? |
| 05:28.15 | black_13 | i guess i do |
| 05:28.27 | black_13 | the is no su file present in my home directory |
| 05:28.35 | black_13 | s/su/such/ |
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| 05:29.58 | chafe | ok im gonna do it |
| 05:30.01 | chafe | wait |
| 05:30.03 | chafe | should i really do this |
| 05:30.04 | chafe | i mean |
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| 05:30.11 | chafe | if i change the main repos to etch |
| 05:30.12 | chafe | testing |
| 05:30.14 | g333k | hI, a good mp3 encoder ? |
| 05:30.18 | chafe | and just update stuff as i see fit |
| 05:30.30 | chafe | i dont really need to do the dist-upgrade? |
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| 05:32.51 | aFlag | black_13, what's your shell? echo $SHELL |
| 05:34.10 | Guerin | g333k: lame is the one true mp3 encoder |
| 05:35.17 | chafe | ahh poop |
| 05:35.27 | chafe | so every time i want to install something from the backports.org repository |
| 05:35.35 | chafe | i have to add -t sarge-backports |
| 05:35.48 | chafe | or add the lines in the preferences |
| 05:35.55 | black_13 | aFlag /bin/bash |
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| 05:37.08 | sid | Do tools like tripwire hash /dev or /proc? |
| 05:38.38 | aFlag | black_13, hum, you should have a .bash_history |
| 05:38.54 | ehj20 | chafe: All the lines in source.list should refer to the same version. Mixing between etch and sarge would be bad... |
| 05:39.07 | chafe | yea |
| 05:39.16 | chafe | but what does that have to do with the backports repo |
| 05:39.22 | chafe | backports repo + the testing main repo |
| 05:39.23 | chafe | should be fine? |
| 05:39.31 | chafe | or is the backports repo for people using stable |
| 05:39.39 | aFlag | black_13, try echo $HISTFILE |
| 05:39.40 | chafe | oh, yea it is |
| 05:39.50 | chafe | so i f i change my repos to use testing |
| 05:39.57 | chafe | i shouldnt need to think about the backports.org repo? |
| 05:40.11 | black_13 | aFlag /home/josburn/.bash_history |
| 05:40.27 | aFlag | yes, you don't need backports, as its etch packages backported to sarge |
| 05:40.27 | black_13 | wierd huh? |
| 05:40.31 | aFlag | yes |
| 05:40.36 | ehj20 | mostly up to date anyway. |
| 05:40.42 | black_13 | i have to restart my box though brb |
| 05:40.55 | ehj20 | whoops, I mean, if you use testing, the apps will be mostly up to date anyway |
| 05:41.05 | Guerin | sid: i wouldn't use any security tool which wasn't documented and didn't have a mailing list I could ask things like this |
| 05:42.08 | sid | Guerin: I don't use it, I just was curious what they did about /dev and /proc |
| 05:43.21 | aFlag | read the code :P |
| 05:44.28 | aFlag | it seems to have this documentation http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2078&group_id=3130 |
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| 05:49.02 | fgxn | WTF happened to apt-file? pdo still comes back with a link to it (http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/apt-file), but it leads to a 404. |
| 05:49.11 | fgxn | Is there a new tool that's supposed to replace apt-file |
| 05:49.34 | aFlag | it has been like that for a long time now |
| 05:50.21 | Guerin | huh, really? |
| 05:50.26 | Guerin | what replaces it? |
| 05:51.30 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:51.31 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:51.43 | fgxn | So there's no longer any tool that does what apt-file is supposed to do? |
| 05:52.51 | g333k | what do I need to install to soundconverter convert mp3 files? |
| 05:52.54 | aFlag | i'm not sure anything replaces apt-file |
| 05:52.59 | aFlag | it seems to work fine on etch |
| 05:53.12 | Guerin | !htfswk g333k |
| 05:53.12 | dpkg | g333k: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 05:53.23 | Guerin | g333k: ask the soundconverter eejits or rtfm |
| 05:53.26 | fgxn | aFlag: So the package is still real, you just can't find it in pdo? |
| 05:53.51 | g333k | Guerin, :s |
| 05:54.07 | g333k | I mean do I need some library? |
| 05:54.13 | aFlag | seems that way |
| 05:54.30 | Guerin | g333k: since we don't know soundconverter, HOW SHOULD WE FUCKING KNOW? |
| 05:54.52 | g333k | Guerin, Dont talk of "we" ..... |
| 05:54.57 | Guerin | g333k: you might consider explaining exactly what you're having probloems with, any errors you get, etc. |
| 05:55.19 | g333k | Guerin, if you dont know... just keep quiet |
| 05:55.23 | Guerin | g333k: since nobody else is answering, I feel it's justified. |
| 05:55.42 | Guerin | g333k: the only reason I don't know is because you haven't given any usable information. |
| 05:56.00 | aFlag | i don't know what soundconverter is also |
| 05:56.28 | g333k | Guerin, soundconverter is a program to convert audio files between many formats, mp3/ogg/wav, etc |
| 05:56.46 | Guerin | g333k: i guessed |
| 05:56.55 | Guerin | !tell g333k about smart questions |
| 05:57.17 | g333k | Guerin, I dont like you! |
| 05:57.25 | g333k | Guerin, asshole |
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| 05:57.39 | Guerin | g333k: i consider being disliked by morons a compliment. |
| 05:57.48 | aFlag | do you like me? I come to this channel seeking aproval |
| 05:57.49 | g333k | Guerin, same way |
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| 05:58.08 | aFlag | otherwise I get depressed and kill myself |
| 05:58.13 | Guerin | !aww |
| 05:58.13 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 05:58.19 | dds | anyone able to connect to any of the http.us.debian.org or www.debian.org mirrors? |
| 05:58.47 | peterS | dds: yes |
| 05:58.55 | dds | ok, thanks |
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| 05:59.22 | dds | in particular, 64.50.238.52 is unresponsive |
| 05:59.51 | peterS | dds: no I can get to that one |
| 06:00.05 | yungknight | . |
| 06:00.27 | dds | it might be a trans-pacific thing |
| 06:00.30 | dds | I'm trying from japan |
| 06:00.39 | Guerin | dds: sounds like time for a temprary /etc/hosts entry |
| 06:00.56 | dds | Guerin: I'll just do what I should have done years ago on this box and switch over to http.debian.or.jp |
| 06:01.02 | Guerin | heh |
| 06:01.17 | Guerin | dds: jaist and kaist I found were fast when I lived in .kr |
| 06:01.23 | Guerin | then again, i lived 20km from kaist |
| 06:01.30 | dds | wtf jaist kaist? |
| 06:01.56 | Guerin | {japanese,korean} advanced institute of science and technology |
| 06:02.01 | dds | right |
| 06:02.02 | dds | that jaist |
| 06:02.05 | dds | didn't know about kaist |
| 06:02.23 | dds | yeah, jaist is awesome |
| 06:02.31 | dds | their facilities are amzing |
| 06:02.32 | chafe | bah |
| 06:02.45 | chafe | since i changed my repositories from stable to testing, i am getting a bunch of unmet dependencies |
| 06:02.54 | Guerin | chafe: that happens |
| 06:03.01 | Guerin | chafe: uninstall the affected packages |
| 06:03.29 | dds | chafe: it's good to add a preferences entry to make the default stable unless you specify to get a package from testing |
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| 06:05.55 | streuner | !tell dds about bobbitt |
| 06:06.17 | black_13 | aFlag well my router/fire works! |
| 06:06.56 | chafe | 8< |
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| 06:08.12 | dds | streuner: package pinning is recommended. |
| 06:08.25 | dds | streuner: that's what package dependencies are for. |
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| 06:08.51 | streuner | pinning sucks |
| 06:09.18 | Guerin | pinning is good times |
| 06:09.24 | Guerin | if you know how to use it |
| 06:09.31 | black_13 | how do i install the java runtime for mozilla? |
| 06:09.31 | dds | streuner: glad to see that debate class you took in highschool really paid off. |
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| 06:10.20 | chafe | shit i have no idea what to do now |
| 06:10.56 | chafe | i kinda want to install rtorrent |
| 06:11.07 | Guerin | black_13: /msg dpkg install java |
| 06:11.34 | Guerin | chafe: you can once you upgrade properly. It also builds cleanly, and there are even sarge backports available. |
| 06:11.48 | chafe | upgrade properly? |
| 06:12.05 | g333k | Does anybody here use soundconverter? |
| 06:12.07 | Guerin | once your shit is no longer b0rk3n |
| 06:12.14 | Guerin | !anyone use soundconverter? |
| 06:12.15 | dpkg | No, no one uses soundconverter, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:12.15 | black_13 | Guerin how do i install if i am not using unstable? |
| 06:12.31 | black_13 | have it on the path? |
| 06:12.37 | Guerin | black_13: should work, since make-jpkg is just a shell script |
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| 06:13.35 | g333k | !anyone like Guerin? |
| 06:13.43 | g333k | lol |
| 06:13.43 | chafe | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dpkg-dev: |
| 06:13.43 | chafe | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.43 | chafe | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.47 | chafe | oh gosh |
| 06:13.47 | Guerin | !karma Guerin |
| 06:13.47 | dpkg | guerin has karma of 31 |
| 06:13.52 | Guerin | some people like me |
| 06:14.10 | g333k | :p |
| 06:14.13 | Guerin | dpkg: uninstall all non-essential packages which conflict |
| 06:14.19 | Guerin | beh |
| 06:14.25 | Guerin | chafe: uninstall all non-essential packages which conflict |
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| 06:14.34 | Guerin | such as dpkg-dev |
| 06:14.36 | chafe | how do i know what is conflicting with dpkg |
| 06:14.39 | chafe | oh |
| 06:14.57 | g333k | Guerin, Well I got it... I solved my problem :p |
| 06:15.33 | Guerin | g333k: hurrah. |
| 06:15.54 | g333k | Guerin, why dont you like me? |
| 06:15.55 | g333k | :( |
| 06:16.08 | chafe | how do i know what i should remove? |
| 06:16.13 | chafe | and wont it just reinstall them again?> |
| 06:16.19 | chafe | should i remove them and then update with stable |
| 06:16.24 | chafe | shit |
| 06:16.26 | Guerin | g333k: because you're a twat who makes it hard to help you, and then gets pissy when people try to. |
| 06:16.34 | chafe | what are the packages i need to remove? the purple ones in aptitude? |
| 06:16.39 | chafe | forgive me for my questioning |
| 06:16.54 | Guerin | chafe: before upgrading, remve anything non-essential which might cause trouble |
| 06:17.00 | Guerin | you can always reinstall it later. |
| 06:17.23 | chafe | i dont know what packages that might be |
| 06:17.36 | Guerin | chafe: any that give you errors like that ↑ |
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| 06:22.03 | streuner | apt-get install gcrontab |
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| 06:24.11 | black_13 | god i hate plugsins |
| 06:24.33 | black_13 | is there a way to automagically hook up the java plugin |
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| 06:28.45 | g333k | !mp3 |
| 06:28.46 | dpkg | well, mp3 is MPEG 1 layer 3 audio compression, which allows for music to be traded, legally or not, over the internet., or an effective means of nonviolent civil disobedience, or patented in US and Germany (ask about ogg vorbis) |
| 06:30.53 | deadcat | Twistedemo: nope.. no C.. |
| 06:32.20 | chafe | Guerin i cant remove python |
| 06:32.23 | chafe | what the hell should i do |
| 06:32.25 | chafe | oh my god |
| 06:32.27 | Guerin | chy not? |
| 06:32.31 | chafe | well |
| 06:32.34 | Guerin | it's not necessary for anything debian |
| 06:32.40 | chafe | im using like ten applications that depend on it |
| 06:32.46 | Guerin | reinstall them later |
| 06:33.02 | chafe | wont it just reinstall python from the test repo again?? |
| 06:33.03 | Guerin | dist-upgrade is just a global reinstall anyways |
| 06:33.12 | Guerin | !wayttd chafe |
| 06:33.13 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, chafe? |
| 06:33.15 | chafe | oh im not doing dist-install |
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| 06:33.30 | chafe | im just doing random updates and apt-get installs |
| 06:33.34 | Guerin | you're not trying to downgrade, are you? |
| 06:33.49 | chafe | and they arent working and i have a huge list of things in the to-do list of get packages in aptitude that are pink or red and they wont do anything |
| 06:33.51 | chafe | no |
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| 06:34.02 | Guerin | aptitude -f install; |
| 06:34.05 | Guerin | no packages |
| 06:34.10 | Guerin | let it try and fix things |
| 06:34.14 | chafe | Guerin that does not produce different results |
| 06:34.15 | Guerin | then you can go from there |
| 06:34.18 | chafe | oh ok |
| 06:34.20 | chafe | wait |
| 06:34.23 | chafe | yea let me try that |
| 06:34.26 | Guerin | so keep removing packages which cause trouble |
| 06:35.18 | chafe | but wont they just be replaced by the versions in the testing repo that have problems with dependencies Guerin ? |
| 06:35.31 | Guerin | i don't know |
| 06:35.41 | Guerin | since i don't know how badly you've fucked things up |
| 06:35.54 | Guerin | you need to pick either stable or testing |
| 06:35.56 | Guerin | not both |
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| 06:36.21 | chafe | oh shit |
| 06:36.33 | chafe | yea apt-get -f install; pretty much fixed it |
| 06:36.53 | chafe | yea Guerin i set the repo to testing and started to upgrade stuff and install stuff |
| 06:37.04 | chafe | i didnt try to switch it back or change it after that |
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| 06:38.38 | g333k | A front end to convert mp3 files to another format? |
| 06:40.01 | streuner | !tell g333k about search |
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| 06:41.45 | yixuan | hi all, does freenode have some channel disscuss with gdb or ddd ? |
| 06:41.52 | Guerin | g333k: mpg321 or mplayer or anything can decopde them to wave; then youn can recode them how you like |
| 06:42.09 | Guerin | g333k: remembering that converting mp3 to *anything* will make them sound like shit |
| 06:42.36 | Guerin | yixuan: maybe #gnu |
| 06:42.58 | yixuan | guerin thanks a lot |
| 06:43.08 | g333k | Guerin, I have some files in mp3 format but at 192kbps, I just want to convert them to the same mp3 format but at 128kbps |
| 06:43.32 | Guerin | that's an amazingly stupid thing to do |
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| 06:44.08 | Guerin | you'll lose much more than 192-128 worh of quality |
| 06:44.09 | g333k | well I want to save some hard disk space |
| 06:44.10 | chafe | g333k |
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| 06:44.22 | g333k | chafe, tell me |
| 06:44.25 | Guerin | g333k: delete some pr0n |
| 06:44.33 | streuner | haha |
| 06:45.10 | chafe | this is a horrible question to ask in #debian and its a horrible question because its a horrible idea |
| 06:45.10 | bmgz | Hi all, I need to take a look at the (DHCP hosts cache)? for DNSMASQ, I can't seem to find it anywhere? |
| 06:45.16 | Guerin | honestly, when you get to the point where you have to worry about 64kbits in a music file, you need to ditch the jenna jamiesom collection |
| 06:46.30 | g333k | Guerin, cause I have hundreds of mp3 files... about 10 thousand... so if you multiply 64kb * 10 000...... |
| 06:46.49 | chafe | g333k thats a lot of mp3 files to ruin |
| 06:46.49 | beardy | Well boho, just stop wanking or buy another disk. |
| 06:47.12 | chafe | seriously g333k you would /ruin/ those mp3s |
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| 06:47.35 | g333k | chafe, also I have many at 320kbps.... |
| 06:47.37 | chafe | g333k start burning onto cdrs |
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| 06:47.49 | chafe | g333k ANY conversion from mp3 would completely ruin it |
| 06:48.08 | beardy | *plonk* |
| 06:48.37 | bmgz | nevermind I found it /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases |
| 06:49.23 | beardy | bmgz: Why the hell did you caps dnsmasq? |
| 06:51.13 | bmgz | sorry to offend you |
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| 06:54.14 | Guerin | the thing is |
| 06:54.42 | Guerin | buying a new HDD to house a few thousand of those mp3s would cost a fraction of a % of the price of actually BUYING that music |
| 06:54.51 | Guerin | so stop being a cheapskate bastard |
| 06:55.00 | Guerin | not EVERYTHING in the world is free |
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| 06:56.21 | chafe | Guerin i have run into an unavailable dependency.. and searching for it on apt-get.org the repos that have it are for sarge |
| 06:56.27 | chafe | i assume a stable release repo |
| 06:56.37 | Guerin | remove it |
| 06:56.38 | chafe | is it safe to just add this repo, update, and install the dependency? |
| 06:56.46 | Guerin | search for a testing repo later |
| 06:56.49 | chafe | remove what? it isnt there its a dependency |
| 06:56.52 | chafe | no no |
| 06:56.53 | Guerin | do not mix distributions, ever |
| 06:57.03 | Guerin | remove what depends on it |
| 06:57.09 | chafe | i havent installed it yet |
| 06:57.14 | teferra | tried to checkout the debian installer for translation issuing commands given at http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/l10n-stats/checkouts.html to tortoiseSVN. but i get "doesn't exist" message. why? |
| 06:57.18 | beardy | Stop trying then. |
| 06:57.24 | chafe | O_o |
| 06:57.44 | beardy | (that was for chafe) |
| 06:57.44 | chafe | so i just have to choose not to use the application ever? because one of its dependencies is not offered in the testing repo? |
| 06:58.03 | beardy | Don't mix distributions, ever. |
| 06:58.07 | chafe | ok |
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| 06:58.24 | chafe | most of these repos are not for testing distribution! |
| 06:58.35 | chafe | what if i installed it without using apt |
| 06:58.41 | Guerin | no |
| 06:58.44 | Guerin | look |
| 06:58.51 | Guerin | for now, just remove them |
| 06:58.56 | Guerin | remove anything which isn't in debian |
| 06:59.05 | Guerin | remove things with ruthlesseness |
| 06:59.13 | Guerin | you can always reinstall them later |
| 07:00.24 | chafe | resinatll them from what? |
| 07:00.34 | chafe | stupid question |
| 07:00.49 | chafe | but all my searches find some of these things in nothing but the stable repos |
| 07:00.57 | beardy | teferra: It helps if you tell exactly which command that gave you that error message. |
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| 07:01.15 | Guerin | chafe: THIS DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER |
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| 07:01.21 | teferra | beardy: svn co svn://svn.d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk debian-installer |
| 07:01.23 | chafe | i have not done a dist-upgrade by the way |
| 07:01.34 | chafe | i just changed the repo and started updating and installing stuff |
| 07:01.39 | Guerin | chafe: you currently have a broken system. You either unbreak it by upgrading or you reinstall. |
| 07:01.45 | chafe | ok |
| 07:01.50 | chafe | so i should do a dist-upgrade? |
| 07:01.54 | chafe | this would be a good idea? |
| 07:02.00 | black_13 | Guerin http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation_with_java-package |
| 07:02.11 | Guerin | black_13: i don't care a whit about java |
| 07:02.16 | g3brown | Someone (Azar) earlier tonight referred me to denyhosts. Which also lead me to try 'blockhosts' and 'fail2ban'. So far I like fail2ban the best. Anyone have any experience with these that would care to share their opinion? |
| 07:02.22 | black_13 | good for you |
| 07:02.36 | black_13 | but if someone asks maybe? |
| 07:03.00 | Guerin | black_13: tell dpkg; /msg dpkg install java is also <url> |
| 07:04.21 | beardy | teferra: Worked for me, so I don't know why you get that message. |
| 07:04.42 | teferra | hmm |
| 07:05.19 | beardy | tapplek: Is that the only thing, and the exact thing, it says? |
| 07:05.28 | beardy | teferra: ^^^ |
| 07:06.11 | teferra | beardy: let me try on another system |
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| 07:07.09 | beardy | teferra: You do have svn installed? |
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| 07:07.12 | teferra | beardy: yes tortoiseSVN on winxp |
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| 07:07.25 | beardy | teferra: Your problem is not with Debian then, have a nice day. |
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| 07:11.46 | fanne | morning |
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| 07:12.20 | teferra | beardy: true. cygwin did the job. thanks any way |
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| 07:16.12 | beardy | teferra: Ok, that's good. |
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| 07:21.18 | wols | I need a software to edit a PDF under linux (change one line, 4 numbers) |
| 07:21.33 | phpnuborn | how do i find out if vsftpd is running? |
| 07:21.33 | fgxn | wols: Most PDFs can't be edited. |
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| 07:22.14 | wols | it can. you can unpack it. if there is a PDF compiler, there is also a PDF decompiler |
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| 07:22.55 | beardy | wols: Convert it to ps, edit. COnvert back to pdf, perhaps. |
| 07:23.24 | beardy | I wonder why I, or someone else, have not made a factoid out of that question.. |
| 07:23.54 | beardy | !info pdftk |
| 07:24.00 | dpkg | pdftk: (A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents), section text, is optional. Version: 1.40-2 (sid), Packaged size: 930 kB, Installed size: 2764 kB |
| 07:24.32 | beardy | !edit pdf is <reply> Try the package "pdftk". |
| 07:24.32 | dpkg | okay, beardy |
| 07:24.39 | phpnuborn | got a factiod for this... how do i find out if vsftpd is running? |
| 07:24.52 | Guerin | phpnuborn: man ps |
| 07:24.54 | wols | phpnuborn: check if something is listening on port21 |
| 07:25.00 | beardy | phpnuborn: pidof <nameofbinary> |
| 07:25.14 | wols | phpnuborn: vsftpd can be started inetd or run alone |
| 07:25.18 | Guerin | he asked for a factoid, guys |
| 07:25.22 | phpnuborn | oh.. pidof.. i tried pid |
| 07:25.31 | Guerin | !grounding |
| 07:25.31 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "ig", "docs", "manuals", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 07:25.33 | beardy | Guerin: "man ps" is not one |
| 07:25.49 | tralala | mmm, pdftk looks really useful |
| 07:26.04 | beardy | tralala: For real, or are you being sarcastic? |
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| 07:26.17 | tralala | No, really. |
| 07:26.22 | beardy | tralala: Good. |
| 07:26.28 | mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.50 | tralala | I didn't even think it was possible to fill in pdf forms under linux |
| 07:26.57 | wols | tralala: I'm already salivating over it. now if only the hoster has it :) |
| 07:27.02 | tralala | I mean without using the acrobat crapware |
| 07:27.15 | phpnuborn | i assume if i get numbers back, 3925 3923 1291, its running |
| 07:27.32 | wols | yes. those are its PIDs then |
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| 07:30.46 | phpnuborn | how do i stop vsftpd from running? |
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| 07:30.59 | Guerin | phpnuborn: why is installed if you don't know how to use it? |
| 07:31.02 | XrMb2 | uhm |
| 07:31.11 | XrMb2 | */10 * * * www-data /home/somepath/perlscript.pl ......this executes the perlscript as user www-data every 10 minutes, does it? |
| 07:31.21 | ]Gnea[ | !assume |
| 07:31.22 | dpkg | assume is, like, the mother of all mistakes and (ASS - U - ME): makes an ass of you and makes an ass of me |
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| 07:32.09 | Phated | !u |
| 07:32.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 07:32.10 | Phated | ;) |
| 07:32.17 | ]Gnea[ | hehehe |
| 07:32.22 | XrMb2 | i'd use: killall -9 vsftpd |
| 07:32.38 | beardy | ]Gnea[: When are you going to be fixed? |
| 07:32.47 | XrMb2 | if there is no init-script or parameter |
| 07:32.57 | beardy | !kill-9 |
| 07:32.57 | dpkg | from memory, kill-9 is do not use kill -9 unless you have to, because using it will keep the process from cleaning up temp files, closing sockets, informing its childs about its death and other nasty things. use "kill -15 <PID>" or "kill -2 <PID>" instead |
| 07:33.08 | ]Gnea[ | beardy: within 30 days. |
| 07:33.14 | XrMb2 | yes, if other signals don't work |
| 07:33.41 | ]Gnea[ | !noob |
| 07:33.42 | dpkg | Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not. |
| 07:33.44 | beardy | 'pkill vsftpd' or 'kill $(pidof vsftpd)' |
| 07:33.50 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | i started it to see if it worked |
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| 07:34.53 | chafe | lmao |
| 07:34.54 | ]Gnea[ | ImAlinuxEmbryo: did you figure out how it's being started? |
| 07:35.01 | schitzo | sup? |
| 07:35.02 | chafe | Guerin i did an apt-get -f install; |
| 07:35.03 | SPOPPO | Hello |
| 07:35.13 | chafe | and it removed a LOT of packages that are prety much neccissary |
| 07:35.20 | chafe | like nautalis and gnome-settings |
| 07:35.22 | chafe | lmao |
| 07:35.22 | Guerin | chafe: such as? |
| 07:35.28 | beardy | haha |
| 07:35.29 | ]Gnea[ | chafe: those are necessary? |
| 07:35.31 | Guerin | chafe: you think those are necessary? |
| 07:35.39 | chafe | depends on what they mean to you i guess |
| 07:35.52 | chafe | anyway im doing the dist-upgrade now so whatever |
| 07:35.55 | Guerin | necessary is thinkgs like perl, kernel, libc, alternatives, sysvinit, cron, emacs |
| 07:36.00 | chafe | will it reinstall stuff like this again? |
| 07:36.08 | chafe | you cant tell me that there isnt a nautalis out for testing |
| 07:36.11 | ]Gnea[ | no, you'll have to tell it to |
| 07:36.14 | chafe | aye |
| 07:36.20 | Guerin | chafe: as long as the package management system still works, you're good to upgrade |
| 07:36.25 | Guerin | chafe: anything else is expendable |
| 07:36.29 | ]Gnea[ | actually, if nautilus isn't there, then yes, i can |
| 07:36.49 | beardy | Guerin: What about webmin? |
| 07:36.52 | schitzo | out of interest |
| 07:36.53 | SPOPPO | tell me |
| 07:36.54 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | ]Gnea[, no i didn't start it.. it started itself when i did.. apt-get install vsftpd |
| 07:37.11 | Guerin | beardy: depends on libfucktard, which is deprecated |
| 07:37.12 | ]Gnea[ | ImAlinuxEmbryo: well apt-get surely didn't start it. |
| 07:37.29 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | yes it did |
| 07:37.30 | ]Gnea[ | apt-get only installs |
| 07:37.31 | ]Gnea[ | nope. |
| 07:37.47 | ]Gnea[ | !newbiedocs |
| 07:37.54 | ]Gnea[ | err |
| 07:38.23 | wols | ]Gnea[: it usually does start the stuff it installs when it'S a daemon gentgeen__ |
| 07:38.26 | Guerin | Starting FTP server: vsftpd. |
| 07:38.27 | Guerin | vadreas:# |
| 07:38.34 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: you lose. |
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| 07:38.45 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | yea.. what wols said |
| 07:39.05 | ]Gnea[ | Guerin: that's an rc.d start, not an apt start |
| 07:39.08 | beardy | Guerin: you can get it by mixing dists and repos, apt-fuckme.org has it their experimental repo. Works great, hmm wait a minute.. shouldn't there be a /bin directory.. |
| 07:39.09 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | and Guerin |
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| 07:39.24 | ]Gnea[ | if you reboot the system, apt isn't going to restart it |
| 07:39.28 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: no, it's definitely not |
| 07:39.34 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: i just installed it now. |
| 07:40.00 | Guerin | beardy: i think libfucktard moves that to a swapfile |
| 07:40.01 | ]Gnea[ | Guerin: it doesn't matter, vsftpd is started via an initscript |
| 07:40.06 | Guerin | beardy: for extra security |
| 07:40.17 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: WHICH RUNS WHEN YOU INSTALL THE FUCKING THING |
| 07:40.30 | beardy | Guerin: Oh good, I thought there was something wrong with my system. |
| 07:40.31 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: trust me, I just did this one minute ago. |
| 07:40.54 | ]Gnea[ | Guerin: AND EVERYTIME THEREAFTER ONLY BECAUSE IT HAS A VALID CONFIGFILE. |
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| 07:41.08 | ]Gnea[ | dude, obviously apt started it THAT time |
| 07:41.15 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | so me asking how to stop an automatic starting app isn't a bad question.. |
| 07:41.25 | ]Gnea[ | no one said it was |
| 07:41.39 | ]Gnea[ | !newbiedoc |
| 07:41.39 | dpkg | i heard newbiedoc is http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/ -- newbies check it out! veterans too, so you can contribute! :) |
| 07:41.45 | ]Gnea[ | ImAlinuxEmbryo: please, go read that |
| 07:41.50 | beardy | What is not working with /etc/init.d/vsftpdorwhateveritscalled stop? |
| 07:41.52 | Guerin | ImAlinuxEmbryo: /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop |
| 07:42.03 | ]Gnea[ | er uh, shit |
| 07:42.15 | Guerin | ]Gnea[: it ships with a valid config file, and installs into 'defaults', so it will start in runlevel 1 |
| 07:42.31 | ]Gnea[ | Guerin: now i'm curious... |
| 07:42.36 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | and if someone trys to ftp into root while i'm reading? that doesn't sound secure. |
| 07:42.39 | beardy | We all need an ftpd in runlevel 1, sounds great. |
| 07:42.57 | streuner | hehe |
| 07:43.02 | ]Gnea[ | ImAlinuxEmbryo: is that possible? |
| 07:43.09 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | thx Guerin |
| 07:43.21 | Guerin | ImAlinuxEmbryo: vsftp ships with a sane config file which disallows practically everything |
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| 07:43.51 | ]Gnea[ | # Allow anonymous FTP? (Beware - allowed by default if you comment this out). |
| 07:43.51 | ]Gnea[ | anonymous_enable=YES |
| 07:43.52 | streuner | If you don't know how to setup a ftp-server, just DON'T use it... |
| 07:44.06 | Guerin | anonymous ftp is fine |
| 07:44.12 | Guerin | much better than non-anonymous |
| 07:44.55 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | ]Gnea[, it being a new program and new to *nix, i don't know what it can and casn't do.. so i should err on the side of caution.. and that means asking how to stop it.. not go take a day or two reading newb files.. |
| 07:45.10 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | * and me new to *nix |
| 07:45.39 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | i will gladly read once i know its safe |
| 07:45.53 | ]Gnea[ | ImAlinuxEmbryo: actually, reading newb files will help you out in addition to us helping you. In fact, you'll get better support from us if you go and read the newb docs NOW. btw, /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop |
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| 07:47.01 | ImAlinuxEmbryo | i saw that from Guerin, about 10 mins before you told me |
| 07:47.29 | ]Gnea[ | yeah i know |
| 07:47.30 | ]Gnea[ | :) |
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| 07:51.51 | peterrooney | where would a proposed bash completion script normally belong - in the package for the program it completes for, or in bash? |
| 07:52.26 | nevyn | in bash |
| 07:54.32 | peterrooney | nevyn: is it a Bad Thing to have it in the package it completes for because bash might not be installed? |
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| 07:57.03 | VISAserver | can i get some help in there? |
| 07:57.09 | VISAserver | hi first :D |
| 07:57.30 | dimir | Sorry, the mind-reading machine broke today. |
| 07:57.48 | VISAserver | i have some troble with my serve :D |----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29840/ |
| 07:57.59 | litage | if you have multiple public keys in gnupg, how do specify which one to encrypt with? |
| 07:58.07 | Guerin | peterrooney: another shell would presumably be installed |
| 07:58.26 | Guerin | VISAserver: arer you using ubuntu, or debian? |
| 07:58.43 | dimir | VISAserver: try 'aptitude update && aptitude upgrade' |
| 07:58.50 | dimir | VISAserver: will give you a solution. |
| 07:58.51 | peterrooney | Guerin: yes, but the directory /etc/bash_completion.d might not exist |
| 07:58.55 | dimir | most probably. |
| 07:59.20 | Guerin | peterrooney: which it wouldn't need to, since bash wouldn't be installed to require completion |
| 07:59.24 | dimir | And that's not English on the paste service website. :-) |
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| 08:01.43 | Phated | litage: I believe it asks - do a trial run with a scratch file and see. |
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| 08:04.42 | g333k | Hi, I'm using scp to copy some files from a remote PC, but I have problems copying files with spaces in their names, how do I have to write the name of the file? if the file is called: "my bet picture.jpg" for example |
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| 08:05.18 | jonkelle | to copy that file you could copy it as my\ bet\ picture.jpg |
| 08:05.32 | jonkelle | or you can use file completion to fill that in for you. |
| 08:05.42 | jonkelle | or you can single quote it 'my bet picture.jpg' |
| 08:06.17 | weggpod | hy all |
| 08:06.24 | weggpod | sorry for my bad english |
| 08:06.32 | buu | g333k: Add backslashes until it works |
| 08:06.34 | jonkelle | if you used file completion (in bash) it would be scp my <press tab> it will finish the file name, and you could complete the rest of the command. |
| 08:06.37 | weggpod | when i try to upgrade my etch i have this error |
| 08:06.43 | weggpod | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 08:06.43 | weggpod | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.43 | weggpod | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 08:06.49 | weggpod | someone can help me ? |
| 08:07.31 | dimir | Not a full error message. And use paste service. |
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| 08:09.13 | weggpod | dimir, http://channels.debian.net/paste/4326 |
| 08:09.21 | g333k | jonkelle, using scp I think the file completion is not going to work because scp doesnt know if the file really exists until it log in to the remote pc |
| 08:09.54 | dimir | weggpod: out of disk space? |
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| 08:10.54 | jonkelle | you are copying from the remote pc to local? |
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| 08:11.07 | jonkelle | g333k? |
| 08:11.44 | g333k | jonkelle, from the remote to the local, been in the local PC |
| 08:11.49 | litage | Phated: yeah i did, but it didn't ask me |
| 08:12.15 | jonkelle | ok, in that case you will have the most luck using backslashes. |
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| 08:12.30 | jonkelle | my\ bet\ picture.jpg |
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| 08:13.35 | ybgwon` | ? |
| 08:13.40 | ybgwon` | /? |
| 08:13.42 | Phated | litage: Hrm, I'm looking about. |
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| 08:13.51 | litage | Phated: looks like -r is what i want |
| 08:14.06 | Phated | litage: That's for the recipient, isn't it? |
| 08:14.32 | Phated | litage: Oh, I'm so sorry, I misread - if it's for the public key to use, yes, that's correct. |
| 08:14.40 | litage | Phated: yep. i want to encrypt using someone else's public key |
| 08:15.05 | Phated | I've totally encrypted with someone else's public key for them before - shame :) |
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| 08:19.23 | sanmarcos | do you guys recommend laptop style keys? (not layout) |
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| 08:26.31 | chafe | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 08:26.31 | chafe | Ack! Something bad happened while installing packages. Trying to recover: |
| 08:26.32 | chafe | Press return to continue. |
| 08:26.53 | sussudio | ... |
| 08:27.09 | chafe | that came after |
| 08:27.09 | chafe | Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]? |
| 08:27.10 | chafe | dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.27-3-386 (--remove): |
| 08:27.10 | chafe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:27.27 | sussudio | !moron chafe |
| 08:27.28 | dpkg | chafe: You are moron #22 |
| 08:27.41 | chafe | only 22? |
| 08:28.00 | cydork | hehe |
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| 08:28.02 | Guerin | chafe: been a slow day |
| 08:28.30 | Tallu| | Wow. quad core from intel. That'd be kind of nice. :) |
| 08:28.45 | chafe | so id been saying No to remove kernel image |
| 08:28.52 | chafe | should ibe letting it go through with this? |
| 08:29.02 | chafe | its giving me some crazy warning and umm great |
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| 08:32.51 | cydork | chafe: why in the hell are you trying to remove the running kernel? |
| 08:33.19 | Guerin | remove the kernel metapackage |
| 08:33.35 | Guerin | it'll be called kernel-image-2.x |
| 08:33.45 | Guerin | then it won't try to uninstall it any more |
| 08:33.54 | Guerin | aptitude can be a bit stupid csometiles |
| 08:34.03 | Guerin | like my tpynig |
| 08:34.17 | cydork | !tell Guerin -about enter |
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| 08:34.39 | Guerin | chafe: fuck |
| 08:34.40 | dimir | :-D |
| 08:34.49 | Guerin | stupid |
| 08:34.52 | Guerin | cydork: fuck |
| 08:34.54 | Guerin | cydork: you |
| 08:34.58 | Guerin | ! |
| 08:35.07 | dimir | How rude! |
| 08:35.11 | cydork | Guerin: muhahahahh |
| 08:35.28 | cydork | !kiwismite Guerin |
| 08:38.34 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:38.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 08:40.47 | chafe | so i should type yes and go ahead with removing the kernel image? |
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| 08:40.59 | Guerin | chafe: no. I told you what to do. |
| 08:41.30 | Phated | Guerin: Don't think he knows what a metapackage is, porksmoker. |
| 08:41.48 | Guerin | Phated: i told him the name of it, noodleslurper. |
| 08:41.51 | chafe | you said remove kernel-image-2.x |
| 08:41.57 | chafe | and that is exactly what it is asking me to remove |
| 08:41.59 | chafe | well |
| 08:42.02 | Phated | Guerin: He thinks that's the image, brazier-buyer. |
| 08:42.07 | Guerin | no |
| 08:42.45 | Guerin | kernel-image-2.x is the metapackage, the real kernel is kernel-image-2.x.y-n-arch |
| 08:43.00 | chafe | ok |
| 08:43.07 | Guerin | Phated: he knows how to ask, brassiere-wearer. |
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| 08:43.40 | chafe | so i should remove the /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-image... |
| 08:43.46 | Guerin | no |
| 08:43.56 | Guerin | never fuck with /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 08:44.01 | chafe | ok |
| 08:44.29 | chafe | locate kernel-image shows me nothing else |
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| 08:44.41 | chafe | other than some in /usr/share/docs |
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| 08:44.48 | chafe | and /var/cache/apt |
| 08:44.57 | Guerin | chafe: grrr. dpkg -p kernel-image-2.x # where x is one of 4 or 6 |
| 08:45.06 | Guerin | chafe: don't use those |
| 08:45.12 | Guerin | chafe: don't touch them |
| 08:45.19 | Guerin | chafe: BAD! |
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| 08:45.41 | chafe | chafe@debian:/$ dpkg -p kernel-image.2.4 |
| 08:45.41 | chafe | Package `kernel-image.2.4' is not available. |
| 08:45.53 | Guerin | err, -P |
| 08:45.55 | Guerin | sorry |
| 08:46.08 | Guerin | you need to be root, as well |
| 08:46.30 | Phated | Guerin: I stopped with a brassiere about three months ago, hah :) |
| 08:46.42 | chafe | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kernel-image.2.4 which isn't installed. |
| 08:46.45 | Guerin | omg! six months after starting! |
| 08:47.31 | Phated | You've been teaching Korean girls too much, I'm far higher in body fat than they. |
| 08:47.34 | k-man | careful Phated, guerin actually enjoys being smacked |
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| 08:48.05 | blondie | k-man: who doesn't? |
| 08:48.22 | k-man | blondie, yeah, good point :) |
| 08:48.44 | Phated | Quite. |
| 08:48.57 | chafe | aaahh |
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| 08:49.20 | chafe | i am almost considering reinstalling debian completely |
| 08:49.28 | chafe | this is horrible |
| 08:49.53 | k-man | chafe, why? |
| 08:50.20 | chafe | k-man i did a dist-upgrade from stable to testing and i am having problems that i dont know how to fix |
| 08:50.23 | Phated | Because he really, really hasn't been listening to Guerin at all. |
| 08:50.33 | chafe | Guerin has been extremely helpful for the past few hours |
| 08:50.56 | k-man | chafe, oh.. |
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| 08:51.09 | chafe | Phated i am trying to understand how this works |
| 08:51.15 | Phated | Oh - by the way, that's a dash between image and 2 in your package name, not a period. |
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| 08:52.35 | k-man | what is the debian way to get multi button mice to work |
| 08:52.37 | k-man | ? |
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| 08:52.44 | chafe | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kernel-image-2.4 which isn't installed. |
| 08:52.58 | Phated | ... so try 6, AS GUERIN SAID. |
| 08:53.02 | cydork | chafe: first tell me which command are you running? |
| 08:53.10 | Phated | "chafe: grrr. dpkg -p kernel-image-2.x # where x is one of 4 or 6" |
| 08:53.11 | cydork | s/me/us/ |
| 08:53.24 | Guerin | Phated: i approve, anyway |
| 08:53.28 | Phated | cydork: s/us/you/ $ he's all yours, baby. |
| 08:53.37 | Guerin | Phated: horrible things |
| 08:53.38 | Phated | Guerin: Of non-brassiereing? So do I. |
| 08:53.38 | chafe | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kernel-image-2.6 which isn't installed. |
| 08:53.43 | cydork | Phated: nooooo :( |
| 08:53.55 | Phated | cydork: You volunteered. Even Guerin's talking about bras now. |
| 08:53.55 | chafe | 2.4 is the version installed |
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| 08:54.44 | Phated | chafe: dpkg -l kernel-image* and paste the output to a pastebin, please. |
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| 08:55.11 | cydork | Phated: if he is running testing he should not have kernel-image |
| 08:55.18 | cydork | Phated: it will linux-image |
| 08:55.19 | Guerin | chafe: ok, that's fucked. |
| 08:55.35 | Guerin | chafe: he *should* be upgrading from stable to testing |
| 08:55.44 | Guerin | but it's possible he already has some testing stuff |
| 08:55.50 | Guerin | beh, cydork |
| 08:56.01 | cydork | Guerin: <chafe>: k-man i did a dist-upgrade from stable to testing |
| 08:56.15 | Phated | Eeeee, gross, mixed. Have we fixed his sources.list yet, before he does any more apt-get commands after this? |
| 08:56.17 | cydork | Guerin: stop thinking about the bras will ya.. |
| 08:56.22 | cydork | :P |
| 08:56.54 | k-man | so where should i look to get my 5 button mouse's extra buttons to work? |
| 08:57.01 | Phated | cydork: Depends on whether his kernel got upgraded during the dist-upgrade, which, according to him, went horribly wrong anyway. |
| 08:57.17 | Phated | k-man: Your x config, likely. There are a bunch of directives for it. |
| 08:57.19 | beardy | bras? |
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| 08:58.06 | chafe | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4327 |
| 08:58.11 | sanmarcos | what operating system does the Space shuttle and the ISS use? |
| 08:58.40 | Phated | Ooo, he has a wonky kernel-image. |
| 08:58.41 | cydork | k-man: man xmodmap |
| 08:58.43 | Guerin | cydork: he is *trying* to |
| 08:58.48 | Guerin | sanmarcos: NASAIX |
| 08:58.58 | Guerin | sanmarcos: seriously, why the fuck would you ask here? |
| 08:59.13 | sanmarcos | Guerin: where would I ask? |
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| 08:59.17 | chafe | ok so should i be removing kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 08:59.35 | Guerin | sanmarcos: ask NASA? |
| 08:59.42 | cydork | chafe: not while running it.. |
| 08:59.51 | Phated | Actually, that one is properly installed - remove 2.4.27-3-386, prolly. |
| 08:59.54 | Guerin | chafe: not unless you can install another kernel first. |
| 08:59.54 | sanmarcos | Guerin: yes, I will email them about the specifications, thanks!! |
| 08:59.56 | Guerin | Tyr that |
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| 09:02.17 | ma3x | D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such file or directory |
| 09:02.20 | ma3x | how do I fix that? |
| 09:03.31 | chafe | i think that worked pretty well |
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| 09:05.04 | jerware | hi |
| 09:05.26 | jerware | whats an smtp server, one that i can use with python, minimal configuration. |
| 09:05.38 | jerware | and to send mail with PHP |
| 09:05.59 | jerware | nothing big for a lan or corporation. the sendmail book looks fat. |
| 09:06.24 | fanne | postfix perhaps |
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| 09:06.32 | jerware | hmm i'll look into that thanx |
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| 09:19.14 | yunhual | hi, why the xterm has no a vertical scroll bar. |
| 09:21.04 | DoberMann | yunhual: put "XTerm*scrollBar: true" in your ~/.Xresources file |
| 09:21.50 | yunhual | ok, thank you, i will try |
| 09:22.49 | yunhual | i want a horizontal scroll bar. |
| 09:22.56 | yunhual | how can i get it |
| 09:23.24 | Guerin | yunhual: man xterm |
| 09:23.44 | Guerin | horizontal scrollbar is probably unimplemented |
| 09:23.53 | Guerin | i've never heard of such a thing |
| 09:24.28 | yunhual | maby, yes, i can't find a horizontal scroll bar with man, with google, and so on |
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| 09:26.14 | yunhual | i hope they release a xterm with a horizontal bar as well |
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| 09:28.26 | FlopsyPete | ijsgutenprint says "If you are using CUPS, cupsys-driver-gutenprint is a better choice, but this package will still work with the appropriate foomatic setup if you wish to make use of foomatic.". Does this mean that if you really want to use it you'll need foomatic? If cupsys-driver-gutenprint is recommended for CUPS & foomatic, why does foomatic-db-gutenprint depnd on ijsgutenprint and not cupsys-driver-gutenprint? |
| 09:28.28 | tarzeau | yunhual: huh? |
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| 09:29.37 | yunhual | ? |
| 09:29.50 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:29.50 | dpkg | [qotd154] 11:41 < greycat> o/~ BREEZY, BREEZY / GIVE ME THE ANSWER, DUDE! / I INSTALLED IT / AND NOW ALL MY DISKS ARE SCREWED! o/~ (add "lol" to taste) |
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| 09:31.41 | moshii | yunhual: the output is newlined when it reaches the width of the xterm so that'd be pretty pointless |
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| 09:33.50 | eps | mmm what package contains mkfs.vfat? |
| 09:34.25 | yunhual | it not pretty when i use the mysql, typed select * from Atable |
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| 09:34.57 | yunhual | the table has many column |
| 09:35.33 | FlopsyPete | why does Tasksel's 'print server' install both ijsgutenprint and cupsys-driver-gutenprint? |
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| 09:37.56 | THE_ROCK | dang somebody forgot this in the taxi http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/gallery/boxshots/web/WindowsVistaUltimate_web.jpg |
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| 09:40.21 | sep | FlopsyPete, becouse tasksel can not magicaly know what you'll need and does a shotgun style problem solution. if you know exactly what you need you dont use tasksel at all. |
| 09:40.35 | SlayerXP | THE_ROCK: perhaps you intended to share that with a different channel? |
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| 15:18.08 | cyzie | what is xinetd.d and init.d ? |
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| 15:26.42 | leOn | the channel is rather slow ... network problems again or everyone's asleep? =P |
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| 15:30.00 | Hoxzer | leOn: ? |
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| 15:30.21 | musialmati | Hello, noobs! |
| 15:30.24 | eplison_ | *argl* an ubuntu user is blocking my nick >:-( |
| 15:30.46 | eplison_ | meet the nickserv for putting my nick in dirt |
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| 15:31.39 | surfbuddy | eplison_, why dint u register it ? |
| 15:32.17 | Hoxzer | :D that "ubuntu user" seems to have a racism meaning |
| 15:33.10 | surfbuddy | cyzie, it is analogous to a boot prgram wich is under OS control. |
| 15:33.23 | cyzie | ok |
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| 15:33.35 | cyzie | so when to use xinetd.d or init.d ? |
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| 15:34.32 | Shinomura | Hello, anybody can say me what i have to use my pendrive? |
| 15:34.50 | Bhavesh | Shinomura: pen drive = USB connection? |
| 15:34.56 | Shinomura | yes |
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| 15:35.19 | Shinomura | Tarjet memory |
| 15:35.21 | surfbuddy | cyzie, inet.d is used to start up inet routines - tftp, etc |
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| 15:35.42 | surfbuddy | cyzie, see inet.conf |
| 15:36.13 | cydork | !tell Shinomura -about usb storage |
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| 15:40.37 | cydork | !test |
| 15:40.37 | dpkg | Yes, cydork, you're still online. |
| 15:41.57 | g3brown | I looking at fail2ban, blockhosts, and denyhonts. Anyone used these that feel one is better than the others? |
| 15:43.49 | cydork | g3brown: denyhosts is only for ssh, fail2ban is preety generic and configurable.. |
| 15:45.06 | g3brown | cydork: denyhosts uses the hosts.deny while fail2ban uses iptables. I don't know enough technically to know which is a better approach. |
| 15:45.22 | Bhavesh | fyi, deny hosts works too well.. i got banned once from my own machine |
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| 15:46.08 | cydork | g3brown: if you are only looking for ssh, go for denyhosts. |
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| 15:47.21 | g3brown | cydork: I would like ssh and vsftpd. But if I went with denyhosts, I could switch to proftpd which already supports blocking dic attacks. |
| 15:47.41 | cyzie | surfbuddy, xinetd.d is an enhance of xinit.d. both are them sysV ? |
| 15:48.19 | rabautz | Hi, i have an ftp-user: user%domain.de. I need to access the serverhost by url. ftp://user%domain.de:password@ftp.host.com doesn't work. I also tried '%25' instead of '%' and '%2E' instead of the '.'. When accessing the host and using a password-dialog everything is ok. Any ideas? |
| 15:48.57 | cydork | g3brown: then fail2ban is better for you, as it supports both.. |
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| 15:50.00 | Bhavesh | rabautz: try ftp://user:passwd@domain.de/ |
| 15:50.21 | Bhavesh | rabautz: or just try ftp://user@domain.de/ and may be system will prompt you for password |
| 15:50.23 | Empiric_ | hai |
| 15:50.32 | Empiric_ | how i install squint on debian |
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| 15:51.26 | cydork | rabautz: you should try 0x25 in stead of % |
| 15:51.45 | g3brown | cydork: denyhosts and blockhosts appear to work very similar while fail2ban uses a diff approach. I'm wondering which approach is the soundest. |
| 15:51.59 | cydork | rabautz: it uses hex for sure. but not sure of syntax. |
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| 15:53.06 | Bhavesh | o |
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| 15:53.21 | rabautz | ill try with hex. Thx cydork, Bhavesh |
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| 15:54.07 | morex | Hi there |
| 15:54.21 | chafe | aaah why doesnt which kernel display any output |
| 15:54.24 | morex | Was wondering if anyone can recommend a cheap, reliable Debian dedicated server provider in the UK? |
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| 15:54.35 | morex | We've been having lots of problems with uk2.net... |
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| 15:55.27 | dotcomguy | I am trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.26 to 2.6.18.1 using a custom compiled kernel. On reboot, I am getting "DMA timer_expiry" errors and it fails to boot up. Any suggestions? |
| 15:55.59 | cydork | dotcomguy: what about stock debian kernel? |
| 15:56.01 | Bhavesh | rabautz: good luck |
| 15:56.22 | dotcomguy | cydork: Haven't given into that yet. |
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| 15:57.14 | dotcomguy | I tried `append="nodma"` in lilo.conf but got the same error |
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| 15:58.37 | cydork | rabautz: it's \x?? i think.. |
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| 16:01.14 | surfbuddy | cyzie, i am not sure, I dont know anything about xinetd.conf |
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| 16:01.19 | surfbuddy | cyzie, i am not sure, I dont know anything about xinetd.d |
| 16:03.19 | morex | exit |
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| 16:07.30 | g333k | Hi, what can I use to convert mp3 files to another format, besides soundconverter? |
| 16:07.43 | Bhavesh | mencoder may work |
| 16:07.45 | Bhavesh | !mencoder |
| 16:07.45 | dpkg | usage: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/mencoder.html and also http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/encoding-guide.html |
| 16:07.54 | Braindead | mpg321 | fooconverter |
| 16:08.21 | Braindead | "another format" is anyway kinda vague |
| 16:08.36 | enouf | dotcomguy: have you tried with ide=nodma ? which disk controller are you using .. any other relevant hardware info you can tell us? |
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| 16:14.50 | g333k | Braindead, to the same mp3 format, just changing the kbps |
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| 16:17.21 | alex | ive just dist-upgrade debian unstable and all my mouse/keyboard settings are screwed.. very unresponsive.. anyone have any ideas? |
| 16:17.39 | alex | irrespective of the window manager |
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| 16:19.08 | Braindead | g333k: you don't "change the kbps". you're rencoding it,beware of further quality loss...if it's for a shitty mp3/pendrive then it's not gonna matter anwyay |
| 16:20.44 | nvzn | alex reconfigure x |
| 16:20.48 | Rockj | anyone know what package I have to install for using AuthShadow in .htaccess files with apache2? |
| 16:21.09 | g333k | Bhavesh, I think mencoder is for video files |
| 16:22.13 | Bhavesh | g333k: i thought mencoder can deal with audio only files but i could be wrong |
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| 16:23.14 | Nigromante | hi |
| 16:23.17 | cydork | g333k: it deals with audio but some limited codecs. |
| 16:23.22 | amphi | Bhavesh: it can |
| 16:23.31 | Bhavesh | oh so i was right :) |
| 16:23.42 | amphi | rejoice! ;) |
| 16:23.44 | Bhavesh | just have to read through the document and learn how to use it.. i have to re-encode some movies |
| 16:23.48 | Bhavesh | woohooo :) |
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| 16:26.23 | CharminTheMoose | hello all |
| 16:26.36 | Nigromante | hello CharminTheMoose |
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| 16:27.09 | psychoslave | Hello! |
| 16:27.19 | psychoslave | What do you think about gnewsense? |
| 16:27.31 | g333k | What pkgs do I need to deal with mp3 files? I mean encoding and re-encoding mp3 files? |
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| 16:27.43 | Nigromante | lame |
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| 16:27.53 | Braindead | g333k: lame. it's not on official repositories. google for it |
| 16:28.21 | d0uglas | i want screen to fire up on every account's login, console or otherwise.. what's the equiv for an account's autoexec.bat? i don't mean init stuff, just on logins |
| 16:28.44 | Nigromante | .bashrc ? |
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| 16:28.50 | d0uglas | bingo that's the one thanks |
| 16:29.05 | CAiRO | where can i get mysql-server > 4.1.14 for debian stable? this release contains a bugfix that i need |
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| 16:29.26 | Braindead | d0uglas: screen can act as a login shell. .bash_profile is more appropriate |
| 16:29.29 | cydork | !tell CAiRO -about backports |
| 16:29.58 | abhinay | I installed minimal system using the netinstaller, What packages do i need to install inorder to get GNOME ? |
| 16:30.01 | jZed | thanks to those who helped me get my keyboard back yesterday after a sarge - etch upgrade, now I can´t get xserver-xorg working, any hints? |
| 16:30.28 | g333k | abhinay, gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 16:30.52 | abhinay | g333k: that means, apt-getting that package does works ? |
| 16:30.52 | CAiRO | cydork: i've look in backports and apt-get but i couldn't find a recent mysql-server version |
| 16:31.01 | g333k | abhinay, yep |
| 16:31.03 | d0uglas | Braindead: got it.. now how do i get screen to run without the welcome to screen! press enter thing popping up? |
| 16:31.04 | cydork | !tell abhinay about install gnome |
| 16:31.10 | g333k | brb |
| 16:31.11 | Braindead | d0uglas: man screen ? |
| 16:31.18 | d0uglas | ahh yes, man screen :) |
| 16:31.39 | d0uglas | that should only take a half hour |
| 16:31.44 | cydork | CAiRO: which one does backports have? |
| 16:32.03 | Braindead | d0uglas: and leave you with a fine warm fuzzy feeling. and a clue |
| 16:32.07 | amphi | d0uglas: or plunge recklessly into /etc/screenrc |
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| 16:32.17 | CAiRO | none at all.. |
| 16:32.17 | Braindead | d0uglas: /wordtosearch works in man,you know |
| 16:32.25 | cydork | CAiRO: not possible. |
| 16:32.29 | d0uglas | did not know that actually |
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| 16:32.54 | jZed | thanks to those who helped me get my keyboard back yesterday after a sarge - etch upgrade, now I can´t get xserver-xorg working, any hints? |
| 16:32.55 | amphi | d0uglas: man less ;) |
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| 16:33.04 | CAiRO | cydork: well, the search is gone and there is a link to http://backports.org/debian/pool where i've looked at main and couldn't find mysql |
| 16:34.02 | CAiRO | cydork: at least no the 4.1 series |
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| 16:34.47 | Rockj | anyone can explain to me why there is no package for libapache2-mod-auth-shadow ? only for libapache-mod-auth-shadow ? |
| 16:34.55 | Rockj | has this package been missed or something? :/ |
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| 16:35.49 | Piet | is there a way to reinstall all installed packages? |
| 16:36.00 | cydork | CAiRO: it has Package: mysql-server-5.0 |
| 16:36.00 | Braindead | Piet: is there a reason to do so? |
| 16:36.03 | PupenoR__ | I am having trouble reaching a server thru an UDP port. An nmap shows every single udp port "open|filtered". I suspect the ISP is doing some kind of block and or the crapy router is doing everything wrong. But, is there some way to find out what's wrong or at least proove that the problem is the router or something else in the middle ? |
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| 16:36.59 | Piet | Braindead: i'm not sure. i dist-upgraded from sarge to etch without a mounted /proc partitions. udev looks somewhat broken. |
| 16:37.13 | cydork | Piet: which kernel are you using? |
| 16:37.14 | Piet | Braindead: and i'm unsure it's only udev |
| 16:37.25 | msn | is there a ej2odbc in debian |
| 16:37.31 | CAiRO | cydork: hmm, well, i was looking for 4.1.something... there are other changes between mysql 4.1 and 5 as i've noticed which stop me from upgrading easily (changes to the meaning of joins etc) |
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| 16:38.04 | Piet | cydork: 2.6.17 debian image |
| 16:38.17 | d0uglas | my processor is maxed out constantly with Xorg at the top of top.. can i get an itemized breakdown of what within xorg could be slowing me down? |
| 16:38.35 | Bhavesh | d0uglas: you forgot to say 'my debian box' |
| 16:38.37 | Bhavesh | :) |
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| 16:38.39 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 16:38.40 | d0uglas | heh |
| 16:38.48 | jZed | Xorg.0.log contains EE AIGLX:Screen 0 is not DRI capable ... how do I troubleshoot that |
| 16:39.10 | chafe | im running on kernel version 2.4.27-2-386 and i want to install the kernel headers.. but aptitude installs versino 2.4.27-3-386 !! |
| 16:39.42 | psychoslave | Hey, did you know lisaac have been packaged in debian? |
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| 16:41.37 | cydork | CAiRO: check snapshot.debian.net, but cant say for sure you will find what you are looking for. |
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| 16:42.22 | cydork | !tell psychoslave -about search |
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| 16:44.39 | roe_ | http://paste.uni.cc/11325 can some-one help me with this? |
| 16:44.59 | jZed | Xorg.0.log contains EE AIGLX:Screen 0 is not DRI capable ... how do I troubleshoot that? |
| 16:45.01 | CAiRO | cydork: cool, thanks a lot, i found it in the archive.. i'm just wondering why there's 4.1.14-6 in the archive from oct. 2005 while there's now 4.1.11a in sarge |
| 16:45.02 | roe_ | I'm trying to get amavis-new +postfix to work on etch |
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| 16:46.09 | cydork | CAiRO: that must have been in etch not in sarge. Sarge was frozen before that. |
| 16:46.20 | Braindead | CAiRO: it may be an old outdated buggy and unsecure version from testing/unstable. you still quite don't get the concept of "stable" |
| 16:47.43 | chafe | im running on kernel version 2.4.27-2-386 and i want to install the kernel headers.. but aptitude installs versino 2.4.27-3-386 !! |
| 16:48.00 | Piet | cydork: did you spot my reply? |
| 16:48.15 | Piet | Braindead: and you? |
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| 16:48.55 | Piet | chafe: you should probably update your kernel, too |
| 16:49.16 | lunaphyte_ | is there a shell command that can be used to add a user to a group, rather than vigr? |
| 16:49.23 | cydork | Piet: yep just read that. |
| 16:49.27 | chafe | Piet i know |
| 16:49.45 | Piet | lunaphyte_: adduser USER GROUP |
| 16:49.45 | Braindead | lunaphyte_: addgroup |
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| 16:50.18 | infernix | i just went through a dozen floppys to find one(!) working one. the rest is unread/writable. just plain silly. |
| 16:50.45 | lunaphyte_ | Piet, Braindead: thanks. |
| 16:51.04 | Braindead | Piet: have you already tried dpkg-reconfigure udev? beware of dist-upgrades into chroots..... |
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| 16:51.19 | Piet | infernix: use usb devices instead, if the system supports booting off it (which is probably your goal) |
| 16:51.28 | Braindead | infernix: the worst thing is to look for a floppy drive itself |
| 16:51.44 | infernix | piet: it doesnt. why else would I be superformatting floppies :) |
| 16:52.05 | Braindead | 2 years ago I had to go scavenging for one,remove,mount,bios upgrade,remove,remount. |
| 16:52.09 | Piet | infernix: sado masochsm? |
| 16:52.41 | infernix | piet: heh. i can figure more interesting ways to do that than be messing around with floppies :) |
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| 16:52.54 | CAiRO | Braindead: my assumption was that bugfixes are backported :) |
| 16:53.00 | Piet | :) |
| 16:53.17 | cydork | CAiRO: it's wrong :) |
| 16:53.29 | cydork | CAiRO: very wrong.. |
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| 16:53.56 | Piet | Braindead: i did do it in a chroot indeed. and reconfiguind udev gives '/boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-3-686 has been altered. Cannot update.' |
| 16:53.59 | jZed | trying to upgrade sarge to etch; Xorg.0.log contains EE AIGLX:Screen 0 is not DRI capable ... how do I troubleshoot that? |
| 16:54.01 | Piet | so i guess i just reinstall? |
| 16:54.24 | infernix | PupenoR__: you will want to verify with tcpdump or iptraf whether if the packet is being forwarded by the router. if possible, eliminate the router and hook linux straight to the uplink (if adsl that means you need an adsl modem, likewise for cable) |
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| 16:55.39 | Braindead | Piet: you mean reinstall udev? |
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| 16:55.50 | cr3 | which package contains mkinitrd? |
| 16:55.59 | disq | initrd-tools i think |
| 16:56.04 | Braindead | !tell cr3 about apt-file |
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| 16:56.30 | yang | I got troubles getting proftpd to work...When I try logging in i get login invalid...i use the right password |
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| 16:56.53 | Piet | Braindead: i mean the complete system |
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| 16:57.35 | xaka | why i see not mysql-server-5.0 in "apt-cache search mysql-server"? |
| 16:57.56 | xaka | before it i do "apt-get update" |
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| 16:58.08 | cydork | xaka: sarge? |
| 16:58.20 | Braindead | Piet: hello no! |
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| 16:58.41 | xaka | cydork, ??? |
| 16:58.44 | cydork | Piet: that was hell no! :) |
| 16:58.45 | Piet | Braindead: :) ok, so what would you suggest instead? |
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| 16:59.04 | cydork | xaka: which version of debian are you running? |
| 16:59.18 | Braindead | Piet: chroot;remember to mount /proc ;);reinstall udev |
| 16:59.27 | Piet | cydork: got it :) |
| 16:59.32 | xaka | xlhost7:~/install# uname -a |
| 16:59.32 | xaka | Linux xlhost7 2.6.8-3-686 #1 Sat Jul 15 10:32:25 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:59.41 | Piet | Braindead: the output of this is what i pasted above |
| 16:59.50 | cydork | xaka: that's sarge. |
| 17:00.02 | cydork | !tell xaka -about backports |
| 17:00.04 | Braindead | !tell xaka about backports |
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| 17:00.47 | infernix | hmm... can i make a *bootable* dos floppy from within linux? i guess i cant since i'd need io.sys etcetera and i doubt thats freely available. |
| 17:00.59 | Piet | Braindead: when i try to boot the system it ends up in a kernel oops, so that's why i'm thinking the hotplug -> udev upgrade must have failed because of /proc wasn't mounted then. |
| 17:01.23 | Braindead | piet mmm.... udev from testing with 2.6.8 is gonna cause a big mess |
| 17:01.24 | amphi | infernix: there are freedos images |
| 17:01.32 | muh2000 | has anyone ever been able to cope veiomaterial from Mini-DV-Cam to your hard drive ? |
| 17:01.33 | Piet | Braindead: i admit this is a very shady deduction but i could not find a better explanation |
| 17:01.46 | muh2000 | cope -> copy |
| 17:01.49 | cydork | infernix: you can use freedos |
| 17:01.59 | Piet | Braindead: actually i have a 2.6.17 kernel, too, and try to boot into that. |
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| 17:02.20 | Piet | Braindead: i could just remove the 2.6.8... |
| 17:02.21 | infernix | !reinstall |
| 17:02.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 17:02.41 | infernix | thats how you reinstall all packages |
| 17:02.44 | Piet | infernix: thanks :) |
| 17:02.57 | cydork | infernix: reinstall is for wussies :P |
| 17:02.59 | muh2000 | i am asking because when i plug in (modules are loaded) my miniDV can there is no sign like "found dev at #....." :( |
| 17:03.23 | cydork | infernix: read that as winblows users :) |
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| 17:03.52 | infernix | cydork: tell me about it. friends of mine have a windows xp based music studio. reinstalls are recurring every 9 to 12 months. |
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| 17:05.35 | pickcoder | muh2000: are you using DV? |
| 17:05.36 | infernix | but the get-selections reinstall method is not just for reinstalls; also very handy for cloning a machine, or when building a cluster from an existing box. |
| 17:05.47 | pickcoder | muh2000: gah.. I mean firewire |
| 17:05.56 | jZed | now I´m getting in Xorg.0.log EE cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device, what next? |
| 17:06.03 | muh2000 | pickcoder: Firewire 400 |
| 17:06.12 | pickcoder | muh2000: did you try dvgrab? |
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| 17:06.26 | muh2000 | pickcoder: i will now |
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| 17:07.44 | muh2000 | pickcoder: just for a short test to store the file somewhere what do i have to type in? |
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| 17:08.10 | pickcoder | I don't know.. man dvgrab |
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| 17:09.36 | g8616c6f | I'm getting a postfix error in my logs every minute. It's complaining that it can't connect to transport spamassasin. |
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| 17:09.44 | g8616c6f | I can see that it's misspelled, but I have no idea where to fix it |
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| 17:09.53 | g8616c6f | I've checked all the postfix cf files. Any ideas? |
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| 17:10.27 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: the log entry should state which master service is logging |
| 17:10.30 | muh2000 | pickcoder: ok man says: for nothing special: "dvgrab foo" where foo the file path is where to save. ok. error msg: no camera found. (i have only one firewire port and host adapter...) |
| 17:10.37 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: which one is giving the error |
| 17:10.39 | g8616c6f | postfix/qmgr |
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| 17:11.29 | pickcoder | muh2000: I haven't done fireware. Have you tried google yet for 'Debian firewire'? |
| 17:11.33 | pickcoder | s/ware/wire |
| 17:12.32 | Rockj | any debian representive persons in here (package maintainers)? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=253293 - would really like to have libapache2-mod-auth-shadow in official deb repos :( |
| 17:12.49 | pickcoder | muh2000: is the ieee1394 module loaded? |
| 17:13.31 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: look at master.cf |
| 17:13.32 | muh2000 | pickcoder: yes => ieee1394 287288 4 raw1394,dv1394,eth1394,ohci1394 |
| 17:14.24 | muh2000 | it is on a nforce2 (nvidia) chipset |
| 17:15.11 | muh2000 | well i guess the camera is broken or something. with winows there is also no recognition of the dev when i plug the cam in. |
| 17:15.38 | pickcoder | muh2000: are you sure the port is enabled in the camera? |
| 17:15.55 | pickcoder | muh2000: mine requires an option to be set in the menu |
| 17:15.56 | g8616c6f | pickcoder: I've checked in there, can't find any references to it. I'm using amavis with spamassassin and I've checked those configs too |
| 17:16.08 | ddfire | hi, i am traing to install kmhtconvert but i get the error C compiler cannot create executables |
| 17:16.20 | muh2000 | pickcoder: the manual says: "turn handle to "player" position and plug in." that is all |
| 17:16.25 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: post the error on a pastebin |
| 17:16.48 | g8616c6f | postfix/qmgr[4987]: warning: connect to transport spamassasin: No such file or directory |
| 17:17.21 | muh2000 | there are two options "record" and "player".... nearly self explaining options :) |
| 17:18.02 | pickcoder | muh2000: try gscanbus |
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| 17:19.30 | jZed | upgrading sarge to etch I´m getting in Xorg.0.log EE cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device, how do I troubleshoot? |
| 17:19.38 | muh2000 | pickcoder: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server; Xlib: No protocol specified; Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0; that is it ^^ |
| 17:19.51 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: you can also grep -r <keyword> /etc/ |
| 17:20.00 | pickcoder | muh2000: yeah.. that's an X app |
| 17:20.10 | g8616c6f | Yeah, tried that too. Came up with nothing. |
| 17:21.04 | g8616c6f | it's not affecting my setup. Spamassassin is working just fine, just logspam. |
| 17:21.12 | g8616c6f | Guess I can filter it out, heh |
| 17:21.30 | pickcoder | g8616c6f: grep / then |
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| 17:23.08 | muh2000 | pickcoder: the application doesnt start |
| 17:23.24 | pickcoder | muh2000: are you running X? |
| 17:23.31 | muh2000 | yes |
| 17:24.03 | muh2000 | there is no way i would chat in a text based terminal :D |
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| 17:25.08 | Ronin | muh2000: why not? its pretty easy once you let go of the x hand holding :) |
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| 17:26.52 | muh2000 | well i have a debian server since a long time without x installed. but on my workstation... i want something where i can fast look up my playlist (xmms) watch videos (vlc/totem/caffein) play games etc.... ok not reallly many games but... |
| 17:27.09 | aterphasma | what are the packages i should install to get my ati drivers to compile? |
| 17:27.36 | muh2000 | aterphasma you need only the ati driver and kernel source of your running kernel |
| 17:27.55 | muh2000 | and xconfig has to be changed i thinl |
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| 17:28.58 | aterphasma | muh2000: xorg.conf in my case, but that part i knew |
| 17:29.06 | aterphasma | i just wasn't sure waht the package name for the kernel sources was |
| 17:29.21 | aterphasma | (just migrated from gentoo, so i'm a bit rusty on my apt package names) |
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| 17:30.00 | cydork | irssi rocks :P |
| 17:30.07 | aterphasma | that it does :D |
| 17:30.23 | gustavold | how to install java runtime environment plugin to firefox? I have an amd64 |
| 17:30.29 | muh2000 | yeah i heard about that... some people have like 10 terminals open. i just know that from my part time job whtih about 7 terminals to diffrent routers machines etc ^^ |
| 17:31.00 | muh2000 | but a terminal just for a app that can run under a x.... nah :) |
| 17:31.20 | muh2000 | but everybody should chose what he/she likes best :) |
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| 17:31.38 | muh2000 | i totally want to have xgl ^^ |
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| 17:32.38 | lunaphyte_ | grrrr. |
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| 17:32.44 | SpeedyG | almost |
| 17:33.09 | aterphasma | ... ubuntu...? what an evil suggestion |
| 17:33.27 | lunaphyte_ | go ahead. give it to me ;) |
| 17:33.41 | SpeedyG | nothing wrong with ubuntu |
| 17:33.41 | aterphasma | i'd rather not... i'm not cruel |
| 17:33.56 | aterphasma | it refuses to work for me, debian i at least got working with multiple networks |
| 17:33.59 | muh2000 | ronin: but what i like more with a terminal is to do the C stuff i have to learn... at uni the visual studio stuff is anoying as hell... vim&gcc is much faster :) |
| 17:34.11 | aterphasma | vim ftw :D |
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| 17:34.18 | zapalotta | hello |
| 17:34.21 | cydork | muh2000: try emacs with cscope :P |
| 17:34.28 | SpeedyG | I had no problems with ubuntu.. except that it just misses what debian has in the needed parts... logic P |
| 17:34.30 | muh2000 | whats that ? |
| 17:34.33 | lunaphyte_ | most of my machines are debian, actually. or fbsd. |
| 17:35.03 | SpeedyG | two of my machines run debian only |
| 17:35.11 | SpeedyG | and one runs winXP/debian dualboot as desktop |
| 17:35.21 | aterphasma | SpeedyG: shhhh, don't let the ubuntu folks hear you say it has no logic :) |
| 17:35.31 | zapalotta | I'm just trying to install Testing on a really old laptop (Dell Latitude 166MHz). After the hardware detection the installer screen simply stays blue and tty3 shows hdc: DMA interrupt recovery hdc: lost interrupt |
| 17:35.32 | SpeedyG | lol aterphasma |
| 17:35.35 | cydork | !dualboot |
| 17:35.35 | dpkg | you have two hard drives... only some rich bastard would have more then one hard drive |
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| 17:35.43 | zapalotta | I booted using noapic nolapic |
| 17:35.49 | zapalotta | anybody got an idea? |
| 17:35.58 | aterphasma | hey... i dual boot with one hard drive... .__. |
| 17:36.10 | SpeedyG | hmz, actually... i've got 8 harddisks |
| 17:36.10 | SpeedyG | :p |
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| 17:36.26 | aterphasma | o__O |
| 17:36.32 | muh2000 | me too ^^ and i try to get a nfs root ready aber that isnt working... but LTSP is :) |
| 17:36.34 | SpeedyG | but the dualboot is on a separate partition on the same harddrive as my windows |
| 17:36.38 | zapalotta | and ide-cd: cmd 0x28 timed out |
| 17:37.14 | SpeedyG | zapalotta: I had those kind of problems as well, only thing that did solve it for me was to replace both the harddrive and the mainboard |
| 17:37.37 | aterphasma | anyone gotten an ipw3945 to work? |
| 17:37.46 | zapalotta | SpeedyG: hmm, doesn't really sound too suitable for an old laptop :-/ |
| 17:37.49 | aterphasma | or the driver at least |
| 17:38.01 | SpeedyG | zapalotta: nope :( |
| 17:38.10 | zapalotta | I used to run SuSE on it quite a few years ago, which worked fine |
| 17:38.29 | SpeedyG | oh and aterphasma, those 8 drives are devided over 3 boxes |
| 17:38.35 | aterphasma | oh, that's not so bad |
| 17:38.40 | SpeedyG | (5 in my serverbox, 2 in my desktop box and one in my router) |
| 17:38.51 | aterphasma | okay, that's pretty decent |
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| 17:39.00 | aterphasma | and since you're such a debian guru, will you help me pretty please? |
| 17:39.15 | SpeedyG | heh i'm no guru |
| 17:39.24 | aterphasma | lies |
| 17:39.31 | SpeedyG | i'm a user :p |
| 17:39.46 | SpeedyG | if I was a true guru, winXP wouldnt be on my desktop anymore :p |
| 17:39.59 | aterphasma | lol |
| 17:40.09 | aterphasma | it's hard getting many of the 'doze games to work well on linux |
| 17:40.15 | SpeedyG | yeah, thats true |
| 17:40.26 | SpeedyG | but I just cant get all used to linux as desktop OS |
| 17:40.30 | aterphasma | so yeah, i already know ati doesn't play well with linux |
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| 17:41.07 | SpeedyG | i've got nvidia ;) |
| 17:41.17 | aterphasma | but i seem to be completely unable to compile my driver |
| 17:41.47 | aterphasma | test -f etc/fglrxrc && chmod 644 etc/fglrxrc |
| 17:41.47 | aterphasma | make: *** [build] Error 1 |
| 17:42.01 | aterphasma | ideas? i'm used to make "just work"ing |
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| 17:42.42 | ddfire | hi, i am traing to install kmhtconvert but i get the error C compiler cannot create executables /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o file not found |
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| 17:45.54 | eeyore- | ddfile: did you install libc6-dev package? |
| 17:45.54 | EricL | Is there a way to get apt-get (or dpkg) or install a package and not use the default configure/setting up methods? |
| 17:46.01 | eeyore- | ddfire: ^^^ |
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| 17:46.16 | ddfire | eeyore-, ??? |
| 17:46.27 | eeyore- | ddfire: read, above |
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| 17:46.31 | cydork | EricL: the reason for that will be? |
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| 17:46.47 | EricL | I have postfix and postfix-pcre installed and it keeps trying to run newaliases (which won't work under postfix-pcre) and then returns an error and screws a few other things up because of what postfix "Provides". |
| 17:47.02 | ddfire | eeyore- i try 3 times i get an error |
| 17:47.17 | ddfire | eeyore-, when i try to instal libc6-dev |
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| 17:48.50 | EricL | So I think I need to somehow pin the postfix package to always install when a new version is available but never try to configure itself, does that sound right? (And if so, how would I go about doing it)? |
| 17:48.56 | ddfire | eeyore-, it said libc6-dev depend libc6 ( = 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge4) but 2.3.5-13 will be installed |
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| 17:53.02 | tuxedup | does anyone know foa any good mysql gui that are in the repositories? I am stuggling to find anything suitable. Preferably like mslyog |
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| 17:54.48 | EricL | tuxedup: If you go to mysql.com (I know its not in the repositories) and download their tools...they are without a doubt (in my opinion) the best out there. |
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| 17:55.31 | tuxedup | EricL: are they quite easy to use? I am just learning now in Uni so dont need advanced things |
| 17:56.00 | EricL | tuxedup: Yep, they are very intuitive. |
| 17:56.09 | SubStack | /usr/bin/mysql is plenty intuitive |
| 17:56.20 | tuxedup | EricL: cheers I will take a look |
| 17:57.42 | EricL | So no one has any ideas on how to force my system to think that postfix is configured? |
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| 17:58.33 | eeyore- | ddfire: well, install the libc*-dev that's appropriate for you, then :-) |
| 17:58.46 | Shinomura | anybody can tell me how to update my debian inux whit konsole? |
| 17:58.47 | eeyore- | ddfire: maybe run "apt-get update" first? |
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| 17:59.09 | eeyore- | ddfire: followed by "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 17:59.10 | Shinomura | I'm noob whit this OS and i don't know how use good |
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| 17:59.45 | eeyore- | tuxedup: phpmysqladmin? |
| 17:59.53 | TIger_IT | Shinomura: just do: sudo apt-get update (enter your password) |
| 18:00.14 | cahoot | presuming ubuntu? |
| 18:00.18 | Shinomura | Thanks TIger_IT |
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| 18:00.41 | cydork | TIger_IT: sudo? |
| 18:00.52 | ddfire | eeyore- maybe whitout upgrade??? i need keep this instalation small |
| 18:01.00 | TIger_IT | cydork: of course! |
| 18:01.17 | TIger_IT | cydork: you need to be root |
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| 18:01.25 | cydork | TIger_IT: do you run debian? |
| 18:01.35 | Shinomura | TIger_IT: look this: |
| 18:01.40 | TIger_IT | cydork: something like that ;) |
| 18:01.42 | Shinomura | Fetched 433kB in 40s (10,8kB/s) |
| 18:01.42 | Shinomura | Reading package lists... Done |
| 18:01.43 | Shinomura | W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 18:01.43 | Shinomura | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 18:01.43 | Shinomura | root@zenkdesktop:/home/burnix# |
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| 18:01.47 | craigevil | su then password, suod userpassword is the lame Ubuntu way of doing things |
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| 18:01.52 | Shinomura | sorry |
| 18:01.57 | cydork | TIger_IT: then STFU ! :) |
| 18:02.12 | TIger_IT | cydork: not exctly |
| 18:02.16 | cahoot | craigevil: what's lame about sudo? |
| 18:02.30 | tuxedup | eeyore-: Is that a browser based tool? Or a gui tool? I dont need anything fancy just something so I can learn about creating tables, listing tables editing tables et etc |
| 18:02.38 | cydork | cahoot: nothing lame about it. but it's not there in debian by default |
| 18:02.44 | ddfire | i will make an upgrade only 4M |
| 18:02.51 | ddfire | eeyore-, thanks! |
| 18:02.53 | ddfire | bye |
| 18:03.01 | cydork | cahoot: ahh didn't read your reply :P |
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| 18:03.06 | cahoot | cydork: of that I'm fully aware |
| 18:03.14 | TIger_IT | I´m a Ubuntu user ....but shhhhhhhh (don´t say...anyone) |
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| 18:03.30 | cydork | cahoot: yep sorry for that :P |
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| 18:04.09 | amphi | !ubuntusmite TIger_IT |
| 18:04.31 | cydork | hehhe |
| 18:04.47 | TIger_IT | haha.... no thanks!!! I prefeer O2 |
| 18:07.47 | Shinomura | TIger_IT: you know why konsole say me this when i'm trying update linux? |
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| 18:08.30 | TIger_IT | Shinomura: no.... really/ your console ? |
| 18:08.34 | cydork | !tell Shinomura -about 2006 key |
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| 18:11.18 | Feax | how can I add the CPU, RAM, etc graphs to MRTG ? |
| 18:11.19 | Piet | hrm, i still get my kernel oops. |
| 18:11.28 | Piet | could someone take a look? http://pastebin.co.uk/5024 |
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| 18:12.07 | d0uglas | hey now.. so, acpi is reporting thermal one as 99 degrees celsius/210 f.. that can't be right, right? i mean, that's hot. |
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| 18:12.16 | Piet | this should be a plain debian etch with the 2.6.17 kernel image + console output |
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| 18:13.03 | d0uglas | though the cpu is chillin' at 100% basically constantly |
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| 18:15.50 | whimboo | Hi, is there a possibility to install mysql-server4.1 under Etch? There is no package available. |
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| 18:17.22 | d0uglas | what's a relatively safe cpu temp? got an amd 2400+ xp |
| 18:17.27 | dieb | Hello. Is there any care to take coding programs for use with inetd? |
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| 18:18.18 | Braindead | d0uglas: 99C is just plain wrong. try [x]mbmon or lmsensors |
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| 18:18.46 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:19.10 | Braindead | !tell Zap-W about System.map |
| 18:19.12 | roe_ | anyone using amavis-new? |
| 18:19.21 | cyfuss | hello |
| 18:19.40 | cyfuss | I'm a problem with debian installer |
| 18:19.45 | wols | !anyone use amavisd-new |
| 18:19.45 | dpkg | No, no one uses amavisd-new, not even the people who use it. |
| 18:19.57 | Ronin | cyfuss: ok |
| 18:20.10 | roe_ | wols: :) well somehow that doesn't help :) |
| 18:20.15 | cyfuss | I'm installing the last stable |
| 18:20.16 | wols | d0uglas: 60-70°. depends which sensor measures the temp |
| 18:20.24 | cyfuss | in my pc, with sata and ide disk |
| 18:20.29 | CharminTheMoose | therefore cyfuss is a problem user |
| 18:20.29 | wols | roe_: your question certainly won't help you either |
| 18:20.32 | wols | think of a better one |
| 18:20.33 | CharminTheMoose | ie n00b |
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| 18:20.40 | d0uglas | all right well i'm installing this lm sensors thing, let's see what this has to say about the so-called temp |
| 18:20.47 | roe_ | what is the preferred method in etch to integrate spamassassin and clamav with postfix using virtual domains |
| 18:20.49 | wols | CharminTheMoose: you#re the right one to call others noob... |
| 18:20.55 | wols | cyfuss: recent intel chipset? |
| 18:20.55 | d0uglas | heh |
| 18:21.00 | d0uglas | <-- oldschool |
| 18:21.19 | CharminTheMoose | bah,your puny words do not harm me! |
| 18:21.20 | cyfuss | mmm,no, it use a mod nv |
| 18:21.43 | cydork | cyfuss: you might want to try sarge with newer kernel. /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.16 Or /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.18 |
| 18:21.44 | wols | d0uglas: clueless people are not oldschool |
| 18:21.55 | wols | oldschool people know about lm-sensors |
| 18:22.01 | cyfuss | yes, I use sarge with linux26 |
| 18:22.04 | d0uglas | really i don't see the two being mutually exclusive |
| 18:22.12 | wols | cyfuss: are you using a recent intel chipset? |
| 18:22.21 | d0uglas | lm sensors has only become important to me having got a laptop for the first time |
| 18:22.31 | cyfuss | wols, I use AMD64 bits |
| 18:22.32 | cydork | cyfuss: well actually that's 2.6.8-3 |
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| 18:22.39 | wols | d0uglas: in your case they are. of course I wouldn't call you old-school, maybe except as a MSDOS user |
| 18:22.42 | wols | but that's it |
| 18:22.46 | dieb | Is there any particular care to take when coding programs for use with inetd? |
| 18:22.55 | wols | cyfuss: I didn't ask about your CPU arch, I asked about your chipset |
| 18:22.59 | cyfuss | cydork, how I can install debian with this kernel? |
| 18:23.05 | d0uglas | dieb: one more time? |
| 18:23.29 | cyfuss | wols, oh, i'm sorry, the chipset is nvidia |
| 18:23.41 | dieb | d0uglas: yes, sorry |
| 18:23.57 | cyfuss | but... My question is, why? |
| 18:24.05 | cyfuss | I install linux in ide disk |
| 18:24.19 | cyfuss | and lilo in /dev/hda |
| 18:24.21 | g00se | Is there any way to determine the total installed size of a package + deps *before* install |
| 18:24.40 | abrotman | apt-cache show <pkg> |
| 18:24.44 | cydork | g00se: apt-cache show packagename |
| 18:24.48 | zinx | if you think you need to know, then you need a bigger hard drive |
| 18:24.50 | abrotman | that will show each package ... |
| 18:24.53 | cyfuss | but lilo not work |
| 18:24.58 | d0uglas | zinx exactly |
| 18:25.08 | cydork | g00se: and you dont have to worry about deps actully.. |
| 18:25.10 | g00se | Thanks guys, i'll give it a go |
| 18:25.18 | d0uglas | like asking the price of duck l'orange at a nice restaurant |
| 18:25.25 | g00se | cydork: how come? |
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| 18:26.09 | kingsley | What's a good way to identify which output method is used by an audio application? For example, whether it uses /dev/dsp or oss. strace? lsof? |
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| 18:27.31 | d0uglas | argh IT lady has all the office machines doing a virus scan at 1pm.. takes forever and slows everything down. Not all of us needs a lunch break |
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| 18:28.15 | cydork | g00se: apt handles the deps. |
| 18:28.46 | amphi | d0uglas: heh |
| 18:28.50 | cydork | g00se: like apt-get or aptitude is even better at that. |
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| 18:29.23 | roe_ | wols: can you elaborate a little about amavis-new and why no one uses it? I have been banging my head against a wall for 3days |
| 18:29.40 | g00se | cydork: i know but if i'm interested in the installed size of package x but it depends on y and z, then what about the sizes of y and z? |
| 18:29.46 | wols | roe_: your questions suck, period |
| 18:29.54 | wols | !tell roe_ about smart questions |
| 18:30.15 | wols | roe_: you don't give any meaningful information about your problem(s) with amavisd-new at all |
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| 18:30.51 | wols | cyfuss: why do you install lilo with debian? by default debian uses grub |
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| 18:31.13 | cyfuss | I prefer lilo, I like it |
| 18:31.32 | cyfuss | but in this moment I'm probing grub |
| 18:32.09 | wols | cyfuss: what applicapable to roe_ is for you too: your questions suck so far. try to come up with better ones |
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| 18:32.23 | wols | "X doesn't work, help!?" is not a good question |
| 18:32.29 | CharminTheMoose | wols:would a smart question be something like:when i start up amavisd-new the screen goes all b |
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| 18:32.37 | wols | you need to give us more info before we can help you |
| 18:32.40 | CharminTheMoose | ah |
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| 18:32.43 | wols | CharminTheMoose: not really |
| 18:32.53 | wols | !tell CharminTheMoose about smart questions |
| 18:33.05 | kreg_work | is it normal for my isp to manually assign me a static address? i didn't have to do pppoe / oa/ dhcp or anything. |
| 18:33.06 | Braindead | CharminTheMoose: irssi! FFS |
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| 18:33.13 | SpeedyG | wols: isnt that the microsoft way? "IT's broken, you fix it" |
| 18:33.14 | wols | probably to only halfway smart thing ESR ever wrote. I'M sure he plagiarized it somewhere :P |
| 18:33.26 | g00se | zinx: i *never* have a big enough hard drive ;-) |
| 18:33.31 | cyfuss | wols, ok, I use a AMD64 bits CPU ARCH, so I'm install i386 because I have more software |
| 18:33.37 | Braindead | wols: he's gonna shoot you,you know |
| 18:33.38 | wols | SpeedyG: then I guess the need to go to #microsoft then :) |
| 18:33.40 | Ronin | kreg_work: it can be, i used to be on a static ip with an oly isp |
| 18:33.48 | Phated | kreg_work: Depends on the ISP and your plan - but as long as you can be connected to the 'net, who's complaining? :) |
| 18:34.01 | cyfuss | wols, in my pc I have 2 hd. 1 ide and 1 sata |
| 18:34.03 | wols | Braindead: he's a clown. and all those guns are only there since he grew up before viagra was invented |
| 18:34.09 | kreg_work | eh no complaints. just curious how they keep up with all that manual assignment. |
| 18:34.09 | Ronin | oly? what the heck is an oly isp heh |
| 18:34.15 | kreg_work | what would be alternatives? |
| 18:34.29 | kreg_work | isn't pppoe the same thing just requires a username and password? |
| 18:34.33 | Phated | kreg_work: <shrug> DHCP, I guess. |
| 18:34.37 | cyfuss | the sata disk use module nv_sata |
| 18:34.39 | SpeedyG | wols: nah, no thanks.. been messing with M$ and apache/php yesterday all day... that was the moment I realised (again) That (debian)linux is a very nice OS :) |
| 18:34.40 | wols | kreg_work: static IPs are actually a GOOD thing |
| 18:35.01 | kreg_work | wols: i agree |
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| 18:35.03 | wols | SpeedyG: your error was to use windows as a server. it isn't, no matter what billy says :) |
| 18:35.05 | cyfuss | wols, and now I install grub in my pc |
| 18:35.07 | cydork | kreg_work: think *web servers* :P |
| 18:35.08 | Phated | Yeah, I'm lusting after a static myself. |
| 18:35.13 | wols | it's halfway decent for a desktop sometimes, but never server |
| 18:35.21 | SpeedyG | wols: hehe, not my error, a friend who wanted it this way |
| 18:35.36 | wols | cyfuss: you still haven't talked about your specific problem. will you ever get around to it? |
| 18:35.36 | kreg_work | heh ya. i've just never given though as to why pppoe is used by other isp's |
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| 18:35.43 | cydork | wols: it's not decent for desktop too :P |
| 18:35.49 | wols | kreg_work: cause they suck. just like my ISP |
| 18:36.01 | wols | usually it's telcos who want their dialup shit with DSL too |
| 18:37.10 | wols | cydork: I tend to disagree. of course only the core OS is halfway decent (excluding shit like the VM and the like. but in grand scheme fo things it doesn't matter) |
| 18:37.38 | wols | it'S kinda like php: the language sucks donkeyballs, but it's still the best one for serverside scripting on (shared) hosting |
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| 18:38.04 | cydork | wols: well you will know about it :P |
| 18:38.18 | cydork | wols: i am talking about php :) |
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| 18:40.04 | Alzi2 | Hey. I am switching over to Debian. I want the newest of the newest... so.... should I enable unstable? Is it safe? |
| 18:40.14 | azeem | Alzi2: no |
| 18:40.22 | Alzi2 | and testing? |
| 18:40.34 | d0uglas | from what are you switching alzi |
| 18:40.38 | Ronin | Alzi2: safer |
| 18:40.44 | Braindead | a friend of mine,it's called Falalla you can't know him,lost 12 fingers using debian sid |
| 18:40.57 | amphi | Braindead: heh |
| 18:40.58 | Alzi2 | d0uglas: Ubuntu. I'm installing it on my Laptop i'm planning to learn Linux on. |
| 18:41.06 | cydork | Braindead: hehe |
| 18:41.07 | Phated | Alzi2: If you don't know that you cannot use testing and unstable at the same time, and that unstable is not "enabled", but "switched to", no, you should not. |
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| 18:41.34 | Alzi2 | Phated: I know i have to do one at a time |
| 18:41.35 | SerajewelKS | Phated: you can use pieces of them at the same time |
| 18:41.38 | Phated | Alzi2: Read up on http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 18:41.46 | Phated | SerajewelKS: He's not going to be pinning. |
| 18:41.47 | cahoot | testing/unstable |
| 18:41.50 | d0uglas | Alzi2: what you might want to do is use the newest of the new net installer available on debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 18:42.00 | d0uglas | bottom of the page for nightlies |
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| 18:42.07 | SerajewelKS | Phated: well then it depends if he dist-upgrades =) |
| 18:42.14 | tuxedup | is etch still on schedule for a december release (fingers crossed), or is it definitly going to be delayed? |
| 18:42.18 | solemnwarning | Can I use a USB numpad as the multimedia keys from a keyboard? |
| 18:42.20 | Alzi2 | d0uglas: But i just installed it using the net installer.. |
| 18:42.36 | d0uglas | by it do you mean testing? |
| 18:42.37 | Alzi2 | d0uglas: (i downloaded that one a year ago or so) |
| 18:42.40 | wols | Alzi2: sid _will_ make you cry and reinstall often |
| 18:42.42 | Phated | SerajewelKS: Again, as he hasn't used the phrase "dist-upgrade to unstable" or "testing" so far - I'm not comfortable telling him "yes, yes you can use unstable". |
| 18:42.47 | wols | doubt you want that. testing is bad enough recently |
| 18:42.50 | Alzi2 | wols: Alright. no Sid for me |
| 18:42.50 | tarzeau | tuxedup: http://dunc-bank.zoy.org/ |
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| 18:42.56 | SerajewelKS | Phated: true |
| 18:43.02 | SerajewelKS | wols: it is? |
| 18:43.03 | tarzeau | tuxedup: i think they want to release it, even if the quality is not right (my pov) |
| 18:43.03 | Alzi2 | wols: But in the old debian, do i get new features? |
| 18:43.18 | wols | SerajewelKS: various X breakage, apache2 mess, so yes it is |
| 18:43.19 | JordiGH | Is it possible to get a lappy to suspend when you close the lid? |
| 18:43.27 | Phated | Alzi2: Read. The. Goddamn. URL. I. Gave. You. |
| 18:43.37 | amphi | JordiGH: yeah, if that generates an acpi event |
| 18:43.38 | tarzeau | tuxedup: it should be released. current sarge kernels are bad for current hardware |
| 18:43.38 | wols | Alzi2: testing is pretty new. you get Xorg 7.1, kernel 2.6.17 etc |
| 18:43.41 | JordiGH | Also, is it possible to shut down the computer from GNOME without logging out to a dm? |
| 18:43.44 | Alzi2 | Phated: Yes I am reading there. |
| 18:43.45 | SerajewelKS | wols: no problems here, yet... and btw yes, my FSB was at 100. it's at 166 now and cpuinfo says i'm at 1.83ghz |
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| 18:43.56 | JordiGH | amphi: It works in Windows. How do I do it in Debian? |
| 18:44.00 | wols | SerajewelKS: I knew it from the start. classic problem :) |
| 18:44.15 | Phated | Alzi2: Keep reading then. |
| 18:44.20 | SerajewelKS | wols: yep. i think the athlon 64 line is auto sensing though. |
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| 18:44.36 | JordiGH | Much to my surprise, she preferred GNOME over KDE. |
| 18:44.46 | wols | SerajewelKS: A64 has no FSB anymore |
| 18:44.48 | amphi | JordiGH: catch the event with an acpi script that does 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' |
| 18:44.58 | SerajewelKS | wols: that might be it too =) |
| 18:45.07 | amphi | JordiGH: assuming you want suspend to disk, otherwise s/disk/mem |
| 18:45.17 | JordiGH | amphi: Uh. There's no easier way? |
| 18:45.27 | amphi | JordiGH: that's not easy? |
| 18:45.36 | JordiGH | amphi: I don't know what acpi is. |
| 18:45.37 | SerajewelKS | wols: the box doesn't feel a whole lot faster though. linux boots noticably faster but then apps seem to run just as fast. |
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| 18:45.55 | SerajewelKS | wols: windows doesn't seem faster in any way at all. |
| 18:46.10 | wols | ram size limited. you use swap |
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| 18:46.14 | Ronin | SerajewelKS: can crash faster ;) |
| 18:46.31 | wols | 1.1 to 1.83 should be a bit noticeable. not much but it should: it'S more than 50% |
| 18:46.32 | SerajewelKS | wols: 1gb ram |
| 18:46.38 | JordiGH | Ronin: Windows is crashing less nowadays. Our gloating of security is starting to become obsolete. :-/ |
| 18:46.40 | SerajewelKS | wols: i never hit swap normally |
| 18:46.44 | wols | then you doN't really need your CPU |
| 18:46.46 | JordiGH | s/security/stability |
| 18:46.48 | amphi | JordiGH: I assumed your machine has acpi support - does 'acpi -a' work? |
| 18:47.02 | Ronin | JordiGH: very true |
| 18:47.07 | Alzi2 | What mouse type does my laptop use? (It uses a touchpad..) |
| 18:47.08 | SerajewelKS | wols: i know the HD is fast, it's SATA300 |
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| 18:47.12 | JordiGH | amphi: I'll check later. I was kinda hoping it was something I could just configure from a GNOME dialogue. |
| 18:47.13 | eeyore- | SerajewelKS: speak for yourself :-) i notice very large increase in day-to-day use on athlon64, but then again, i use gentoo. it's definitely faster compared to athlon-xp even if their core clocks are roughly comparable |
| 18:47.17 | JordiGH | amphi: I don't have the lappy with me. |
| 18:47.18 | Alzi2 | Phated: Well, is testing safe to use? |
| 18:47.19 | SerajewelKS | wols: i'm thinking maybe the RAM is a little sluggish |
| 18:47.25 | wols | SerajewelKS: wrong |
| 18:47.33 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: i don't use 64 |
| 18:47.44 | SerajewelKS | wols: how's that? it's not very new RAM. |
| 18:47.46 | wols | Sata300 is meaningless. no IDE drive ever can sustain SATA75 yet |
| 18:48.07 | Phated | Alzi2: 'safe' as in "will it break sometimes, but not too often"? Yes. 'safe' as in "will my system be secure"? That depends on you. |
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| 18:48.08 | eeyore- | SerajewelKS: could be a number of factors involved though. the athlon-xp is 3200 MHz, nforce2, ddr while athlon-64 is 3400MHz, nforce 6150 + ddr2 |
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| 18:48.13 | Alzi2 | Phated: Well, I don't want it to break. |
| 18:48.24 | Phated | Alzi2: Stick to stable then. <shrug> |
| 18:48.25 | amphi | JordiGH: maybe - I have no idea about gnome; otherwise, you can stop acpid, and cat /proc/acpi/event to see what event is generated |
| 18:48.29 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: my athlon is 1.8g |
| 18:48.31 | wols | eeyore-: there is no xp at 3200MHurtz |
| 18:48.39 | Alzi2 | Phated: Ok |
| 18:48.57 | Alzi2 | Phated: Another question.. My laptop has a touchpad - what type of mouse is that and what device does it use? |
| 18:48.58 | wols | SerajewelKS: how fast is your RAM? what CAS? |
| 18:49.11 | pickcoder | I was about to ask that, wols. <g> |
| 18:49.13 | Phated | Alzi2: Again, keeping an eye on your upgrades, watching what gets removed, holding back upgrades, etc will help in preventing breakage in testing or unstable - but if you just never want breaking, use stable. |
| 18:49.16 | SerajewelKS | wols: i'm not sure exactly, is there a /proc node with that info? |
| 18:49.24 | JordiGH | How about my other question? Is it possible to shut down from GNOME without logging out to a dm? My girlfriend wants to pretend that her computer doesn't have a password and never wants to see a login prompt. :-/ |
| 18:49.29 | Phated | Alzi2: Eh, PS/2, it'll be on /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mouse0 |
| 18:49.32 | Alzi2 | Phated: Then i'll use stable. |
| 18:49.33 | Alzi2 | ok |
| 18:49.35 | Phated | Er, /dev/input/mouse |
| 18:49.40 | eeyore- | wols: somewhere in that neighbourhood :-) |
| 18:49.42 | beardy | mice |
| 18:49.44 | wols | SerajewelKS: no |
| 18:49.45 | Braindead | is there a Ubuntu Expatriate Syndrome? |
| 18:49.49 | Phated | beardy: Gah! Thank you. |
| 18:49.50 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: set the dm to login passwordlessly |
| 18:49.50 | wols | windows has CPU-Z which shows |
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| 18:49.59 | pickcoder | SerajewelKS: BIOS will normally tell you |
| 18:50.03 | pickcoder | er .. CMOS |
| 18:50.10 | JordiGH | SerajewelKS: That's done. But now I want to shut down the computer from GNOME. |
| 18:50.12 | SerajewelKS | pickcoder: i'm remote, can't do that =) |
| 18:50.14 | wols | pickcoder: BIOS mostly says "default" or such :) |
| 18:50.17 | beardy | IIRC abrotman made a good factoid for that, if only I could remember what he called it.. |
| 18:50.26 | d0uglas | popcorn confirms it: 17% of #debian question-askers will actually check a url a respondant provides |
| 18:50.28 | wols | or better: TURBO :) |
| 18:50.34 | Alzi2 | YAY! it works! |
| 18:50.35 | beardy | Ah |
| 18:50.38 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: umm... there is a shut down option... in the third menu |
| 18:50.39 | beardy | !mousedev |
| 18:50.39 | dpkg | This is the driver you most likely want to use. `echo "mousedev" >> /etc/modules && modprobe mousedev` .. Choose /dev/input/mice when you reconfigure X. |
| 18:50.50 | SerajewelKS | wols: let me check my newegg invoice |
| 18:50.53 | pickcoder | wols: in the day and age of overclockers? |
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| 18:51.05 | PupenoR__ | Is it possible to make exim4 rewrite all mails comming from localhost to have the FQDN of that computer ? |
| 18:51.11 | Alzi2 | err... how to get into KDE? did i have to select that at install? cuz i didn't see such an option |
| 18:51.19 | pickcoder | most of the memory screens I've seen recently show the latency, type, and speed |
| 18:51.22 | beardy | !install kde |
| 18:51.22 | dpkg | i heard install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 18:51.27 | JordiGH | SerajewelKS: Where? I only see "logout" and "lock screen". |
| 18:51.43 | JordiGH | Is there a GNOME applet for shutting down? That would be nifty. |
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| 18:51.44 | Alzi2 | Nevermind. I see, they're both installed :) |
| 18:51.55 | SerajewelKS | wols: CORSAIR ValueSelect 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory Model VS512MB400C3 - Retail |
| 18:51.58 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: hmm |
| 18:52.07 | g00se | JordiGH: sudo telinit 0 |
| 18:52.07 | beardy | Alzi2: kde is installed? |
| 18:52.09 | Phated | Alzi2: Grab some kind of desktop manager - xdm, kdm, gdm. |
| 18:52.10 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: i see "Shut down" in that menu too |
| 18:52.15 | pickcoder | cl3 probably if it doesn't say |
| 18:52.19 | wols | pickcoder: at least they still have that setting yes. I have a Abit AN7. abit being the OCers posterchild (at least back then() |
| 18:52.24 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: are you using gdm or kdm? |
| 18:52.28 | wols | unless I set it to "manual" I can't set CAS and the like |
| 18:52.40 | SerajewelKS | wols: so whatever speed that is... |
| 18:52.45 | wols | SerajewelKS: run it at CAS2.5 or 2.0 |
| 18:52.50 | Phated | Alzi2: Then when you boot up, you'll boot into a graphical login wherein you may choose your environment from the "Session" menu. GDM seems slightly nicer, if you want a recommendation. |
| 18:52.51 | JordiGH | SerajewelKS: kdm. But I told you she doesn't want to see a dm at all. She wants to shut down from GNOME without logging out. |
| 18:52.56 | wols | it's RAM capabpe of 200MHz |
| 18:52.59 | SerajewelKS | wols: i... don't know... |
| 18:53.10 | beardy | Alzi2: As Phated said, however, the metapackage kde most likely installs kdm, what happens if you, as root, run '/etc/init.d/kdm restart'? |
| 18:53.15 | wols | SerajewelKS: I'd run it at 200Mhz and keep the CPU at current multi |
| 18:53.20 | wols | giving you a XP3200 basically |
| 18:53.26 | SerajewelKS | wols: i didn't have the FSB set right, the chances that the RAM speed is set right is basically zero |
| 18:53.27 | Phated | beardy: sudo, sudo! |
| 18:53.33 | wols | if the CPU can't take it (check with prime95 in windows, kernel compile, etc) |
| 18:53.37 | wols | you lower the mult |
| 18:53.46 | beardy | Phated: That is as root, and, we're not in ubuntu.. ;) |
| 18:53.47 | SerajewelKS | wols: so run at 2.0 or 2.5? |
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| 18:53.57 | wols | around 2,2 or so I think |
| 18:54.01 | JordiGH | g00se: Hm. That could work. I'll put that script on her desktop so that she can just click on it. |
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| 18:54.08 | wols | 1,1 was at 100, so 200 will be 2,2 |
| 18:54.13 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: use gdm and configure it to log in passwordlessly |
| 18:54.20 | Phated | beardy: It's nothing to do with ubuntu, but let's not ask people to become root randomly, especially when they may forget to leave it :) |
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| 18:54.32 | wols | late bartons are speedy and OK OCers |
| 18:54.33 | JordiGH | SerajewelKS: *sigh* I told you that's done. She wants to shut down her computer without having to log out from GNOME and having to do it from a dm. |
| 18:54.39 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: i think gnome needs to be running from gdm to offer shut down |
| 18:54.39 | beardy | Phated: Hardly randomly, but have it your way. |
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| 18:54.51 | g00se | JordiGH: Of course you'll have to set up sudo. (man sudoers) |
| 18:54.54 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: you said you are using kdm |
| 18:55.05 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: try with gdm, not kdm |
| 18:55.09 | Phated | beardy: Well, not -randomly-, but not become root just because, y'know? :) |
| 18:55.11 | JordiGH | g00se: Hm. And she's going to have to type in her password to shut down. |
| 18:55.12 | beardy | Phated: AFAIK sudo is not setup by default. |
| 18:55.19 | SerajewelKS | JordiGH: gnome probably doesn't know how to tell kdm to shut down |
| 18:55.20 | beardy | Phated: Sure. |
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| 18:55.32 | Phated | beardy: Yeah, fair 'nuff. There has to be some setup. |
| 18:55.38 | g00se | >>And she's going to have to type in her password to shut down<< No. (man sudoers) |
| 18:55.46 | SerajewelKS | wols: hmm |
| 18:55.53 | Phated | beardy: Cor, look at us, all consensus and shit, since when did we become adults? :) |
| 18:55.55 | SerajewelKS | wols: well i may look you up tonight if you'll be here |
| 18:56.10 | JordiGH | g00se: Oh, right. I think I remember a bug or somesuch in sudo where it actually ignored my request to be prompted for passwords. :P |
| 18:56.16 | beardy | Phated: Heh, I have no idea, maybe it's temporary? ;) |
| 18:56.16 | wols | I'm always here. I live on IRC |
| 18:56.25 | wols | always on freenode that is |
| 18:56.31 | Phated | beardy: Bwahah. |
| 18:56.35 | SerajewelKS | wols: well me too, that doesn't mean i'm not afk |
| 18:56.41 | pickcoder | except when it's been DoS'd.... |
| 18:57.25 | wols | SerajewelKS: do you know what heatsink you have? and what board is it again? |
| 18:57.47 | g00se | JordiGH: What's her problem? |
| 18:57.51 | Alzi2 | Wow. Debian is much faster than Ubuntu! |
| 18:57.52 | beardy | JordiGH: As long as you sit _her_ on your lap securely. |
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| 18:58.01 | cyfuss | my problem is: I have 2 hard disk |
| 18:58.02 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.02 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.02 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.02 | cyfuss | . Well, I install lilo or grub to select a system operative and |
| 18:58.02 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:58.18 | beardy | To fast for his own good |
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| 18:58.40 | SerajewelKS | wols: one sec, switching classrooms |
| 18:58.40 | JordiGH | g00se: She's not much of a computer person. |
| 18:58.50 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.57 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.05 | cyfuss | and ide. I install debian in ide disk |
| 18:59.06 | g00se | Surely she can type her name in and passwd!? |
| 18:59.11 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.13 | JordiGH | beardy: Hm. I take it by "her" you mean cleo, my gf's lappy. That's unfeasible. ;-) |
| 18:59.19 | cyfuss | . Well, I install lilo or grub to select a system operative and |
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| 18:59.20 | beardy | cyfuss: Slow down. |
| 18:59.20 | JordiGH | g00se: Nope. That's a chore. |
| 18:59.27 | cyfuss | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.28 | JordiGH | !punctuation |
| 18:59.29 | beardy | !tell cyfuss -about enter |
| 18:59.42 | JordiGH | !thanks beardy |
| 18:59.42 | dpkg | JordiGH: pas de quoi |
| 18:59.44 | Phated | cyfuss: What the FUCK is your problem? The FIRST time you get kicked, and then you use EXACTLY the same format the second time? |
| 19:00.15 | g00se | LOL. Does she leave her car unlocked coz it's a chore to unlock it? |
| 19:00.28 | Alzi2 | KDE was installed, yes. |
| 19:00.30 | cyfuss | ups, I'm sorry |
| 19:00.41 | Alzi2 | Everything works perfectly. How do I assign a static IP in Debian, though? |
| 19:00.44 | JordiGH | g00se: Don't attempt to jeopardise my relationship. A car isn't something she can always keep near and locked up. ;-) |
| 19:00.55 | beardy | Alzi2: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 19:00.56 | cyfuss | I'm spanish and I wirte english very slow |
| 19:01.01 | JordiGH | !es |
| 19:01.02 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:01.10 | beardy | Alzi2: You edit the file of which dpkg will tell you. 'man 5 interfaces' |
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| 19:01.21 | Phated | cyfuss: Slow doesn't mean that you have a license to abuse any kind of format - you can type slowly on ONE LINE. |
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| 19:01.30 | JordiGH | cyfuss: I could help in Spanish... but I don't know much about your problem. |
| 19:01.43 | cyfuss | oKtosiTe, I'm sorry again |
| 19:01.45 | stojic | hello, I have a hard disk with 5 partitions (hda1 - hda5). Debian installation is on hda3. I am shrinking hda2 to create another partition in new free space between hda2 and hda3. Will this new partition be named hda6 or will hda3 - hda5 move to hda4 - hda6? |
| 19:01.47 | beardy | JordiGH: Please join #debian-es if so. |
| 19:02.01 | cyfuss | JordiGH, can you send me a private? |
| 19:02.15 | JordiGH | cyfuss: I don't know how to fix your problem. |
| 19:02.21 | pickcoder | cyfuss: is the IDE disk hdb or hda? |
| 19:02.29 | cyfuss | IDE disk is in hda |
| 19:02.30 | pickcoder | hrm |
| 19:02.38 | Alzi2 | beardy: Thanks :) |
| 19:02.40 | wols | cyfuss: primary partition? |
| 19:02.47 | pickcoder | did you install grub/lilo on /dev/hda? |
| 19:02.51 | pickcoder | er |
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| 19:02.57 | pickcoder | which boot loader are you using |
| 19:02.58 | cyfuss | yes, it's in first partition |
| 19:03.04 | pickcoder | you can't have both |
| 19:03.12 | beardy | Alzi2: You're welcome :) |
| 19:03.15 | JordiGH | Is there a way to put accents in dpkg's factoids? Or is that impossible/undesirable? |
| 19:03.17 | cyfuss | and lilo or grub don't select any system operative |
| 19:03.28 | beardy | JordiGH: An example? |
| 19:03.36 | pickcoder | cyfuss: which boot loader are you using |
| 19:03.47 | cyfuss | in this moment I use grub |
| 19:03.49 | JordiGH | beardy: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, allí obtendrán más ayuda. |
| 19:04.14 | beardy | JordiGH: Should be possible and a good thing, try? |
| 19:04.17 | solemnwarning | Can I use a USB numpad as the multimedia keys from a keyboard? |
| 19:04.45 | JordiGH | dpkg, no, es is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, allí obtendrán más ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:04.45 | dpkg | JordiGH: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 19:04.52 | JordiGH | :-/ |
| 19:05.08 | beardy | And don is not around.. |
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| 19:05.40 | roe_ | wols: ok I am back... there is no succict way to ask my question, its a matter of not knowing how to take apart the setup and test each section... http://paste.uni.cc/11336 ... that has all of the pertinent files and logs but the error message to me just says that postfix can't communicate with amavis but everything is correct as per the various online documentation |
| 19:05.43 | beardy | JordiGH: Ask dondelelcario nicely when he shows up. |
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| 19:05.54 | beardy | JordiGH: dondelelcaro |
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| 19:06.06 | JordiGH | beardy: Acknowledged. |
| 19:06.08 | Phated | JordiGH: Leave it the hell alone, please - you're using ISO encoding or other stuff - it WILL cause problems reading if some users don't have that. |
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| 19:06.28 | pickcoder | cyfuss: what does grub say is "root" in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:06.33 | Phated | Whereas !es as it is doesn't. |
| 19:06.34 | beardy | As will utf-8. |
| 19:06.40 | pickcoder | cyfuss: (hd0,0) for example |
| 19:06.44 | Stevie[FP] | greetings |
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| 19:06.49 | Phated | beardy: !es contains neither, and as far as I can tell, he's not using UTF-8 :) |
| 19:06.55 | cyfuss | I haven't access to /boot |
| 19:06.57 | JordiGH | Phated: ISO-8859-1, yes. But that's more standard in Debian. |
| 19:07.04 | cyfuss | don't boot linux |
| 19:07.10 | cyfuss | only windows |
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| 19:07.21 | beardy | Phated: Just commenting. I should just be quiet sometimes, I know. .) |
| 19:07.22 | pickcoder | cyfuss: use a boot disk or Knoppix |
| 19:07.23 | beardy | :) |
| 19:07.26 | Phated | JordiGH: Neither ISO-8859-1 nor UTF-8 is 'more standard' - !es uses only ASCII - and that is the way it should be on the bot. |
| 19:07.30 | pickcoder | cyfuss: then you can browse the linux partition |
| 19:07.36 | Phated | beardy: Yeah yeah, but I get you. And we understand each other :) |
| 19:07.38 | JordiGH | Phated: Btw, why the fuck do you have to use such bloody coarse language? |
| 19:07.47 | JordiGH | !ru |
| 19:07.47 | dpkg | methinks ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 19:07.53 | JordiGH | Hm, I guess so. |
| 19:07.56 | JordiGH | !ch |
| 19:07.56 | dpkg | methinks ch is Switzerland, or #linux.ch and Confoederatio Helvetica |
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| 19:08.02 | JordiGH | !ko |
| 19:08.02 | dpkg | i heard ko is KNOCK OUT, or danish for cow mooooo |
| 19:08.06 | JordiGH | !fi |
| 19:08.06 | dpkg | from memory, fi is Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out, or /join #debian-fi |
| 19:08.09 | cyfuss | pickcoder, with knoppix use chroot to configure grub? |
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| 19:08.11 | wols | roe_: why is amavis commented out in your transport map? |
| 19:08.14 | Phated | JordiGH: Why the fuck does it matter to you? |
| 19:08.19 | pickcoder | cyfuss: yes |
| 19:08.22 | cyfuss | ok |
| 19:08.27 | cyfuss | pickcoder, thanks |
| 19:08.34 | beardy | Hmm, I wonder what |
| 19:08.35 | beardy | !se |
| 19:08.35 | dpkg | i heard se is Anslut till #debian.se för att snacka svenska, skriv /join debian.se |
| 19:08.36 | beardy | contains |
| 19:08.38 | JordiGH | Phated: It makes me feel some fukcing strong anymosity towards you that probably isn't necessary. |
| 19:08.56 | roe_ | because the mail server is in use, and uncommenting it makes everything backup in the queue |
| 19:09.10 | wols | roe_: and the bestest postfix on debian howto is http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 19:09.13 | wols | there is none better |
| 19:09.26 | JordiGH | Phated: It makes you sound more aggressive than you probably are. |
| 19:09.28 | Phated | Awww, widdle JordiGH can't handle the language! Ignore me then. <shrug> "animosity", by the way. I'm not going to censor myself for -you- just because you don't like it. |
| 19:09.42 | Phated | JordiGH: I'm a teenager, I'm aggressive. Deal. HTH. |
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| 19:09.52 | beardy | Hehe |
| 19:09.54 | JordiGH | Phated: Fair enough. Fuck off, then. |
| 19:09.59 | petemc | easy now |
| 19:09.59 | beardy | :O |
| 19:10.03 | cydork | !language |
| 19:10.03 | dpkg | well, language is a wonderful fucking thing that should be used properly. Every time you hurt grammar, a knoppix user joins. to the scientists language is god |
| 19:10.03 | Phated | JordiGH: Happily. Fuck you too. |
| 19:10.10 | roe_ | wols: I agree and I follewed that one, however is uses the amavis.conf file which amavis-new doesn't have and it omits any mention of telling amavis to listen on the proper socket |
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| 19:10.33 | beardy | /ignore quietly is better if possible.. |
| 19:10.55 | pickcoder | roe_: 20-debian_defaults |
| 19:10.59 | Phated | cydork: I'll note I have near-perfect grammar. If JordiGH doesn't fucking like the occasional swearword, as stated earlier, he can fuck off. |
| 19:11.12 | eeyore- | Phated: hey! |
| 19:11.15 | wols | roe_: Tell Postfix to use AMaViS |
| 19:11.21 | eeyore- | Phated: you can take this private |
| 19:11.27 | wols | look for that. you don't tell postfix about amavisd properly it seems |
| 19:11.46 | wols | ah. you have commented it out too |
| 19:11.52 | Phated | eeyore-: I'm done. I got called by him for not very much reason. |
| 19:11.53 | cydork | Phated, heheh |
| 19:11.56 | Stevie[FP] | I've got a laptop here that's sitting at 92% CPU usage in 'system' mode (and 8% idle). How can I track down what's causing this? |
| 19:12.08 | beardy | Stevie[FP]: top |
| 19:12.10 | JordiGH | Phated: The language was incidental. |
| 19:12.17 | Stevie[FP] | top shows nothing, other than '92% sy' |
| 19:12.31 | Stevie[FP] | regular processes show no extra CPU time |
| 19:12.43 | beardy | Stevie[FP]: How is you network load? |
| 19:12.46 | beardy | your |
| 19:12.54 | beardy | Stevie[FP]: And what processor is that? |
| 19:13.08 | amphi | Stevie[FP]: X does that very occasionally to me (I blame firefox); switch to a VT and back to X fixes it |
| 19:13.08 | Phated | JordiGH: I thought you were ignoring me. |
| 19:13.24 | roe_ | wols: yea in the main.cf |
| 19:13.28 | Phated | JordiGH: go back to that - or stop complaining the next time you see me use the word fuck. |
| 19:13.37 | beardy | amphi: Doesn't firefox show up in top then? |
| 19:13.53 | pickcoder | Stevie[FP]: hit P in top |
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| 19:14.06 | pickcoder | s/hit/press |
| 19:14.12 | amphi | beardy: no, it's just prejudice and slim circumstantial evidence that makes me blame it ;) |
| 19:14.27 | Stevie[FP] | beardy: network load should be pretty light. There's nothing plugged into NIC. |
| 19:14.37 | amphi | heh |
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| 19:15.03 | pickcoder | if the card is bad it can still run wild |
| 19:15.06 | Stevie[FP] | although... *checks something* |
| 19:15.56 | eeyore- | JordiGH: please take it private |
| 19:15.56 | wols | roe_: go to postfix. and if you see a nick "chris" ask him. he wrote the hwoto. but the others in there a pretty good too |
| 19:15.56 | Stevie[FP] | I just rmmod-ed the tg3 driver and it's back to normal. |
| 19:15.56 | Stevie[FP] | solemnwarning: how do I prevent this module from being loaded automatically? |
| 19:15.56 | beardy | amphi: Hehe |
| 19:16.00 | roe_ | pickcoder: you're correct, and the way I understand it the conf files are processed in ascending order... so 20-debiandefaults i processed before 50-user |
| 19:16.00 | Stevie[FP] | err |
| 19:16.02 | Stevie[FP] | So: how do I prevent this module from being loaded automatically? |
| 19:16.08 | beardy | !blacklist |
| 19:16.08 | dpkg | blacklist is probably Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 19:16.28 | roe_ | pickcoder: for correctness I commented it out of my 50-user, and restarted the affected daemons, no change though |
| 19:16.41 | pickcoder | roe_: do you have an error stating that smtpd can't connect to amavis? |
| 19:17.12 | roe_ | the only errors are the ones I posted, amavis is only mentioned in the mail.log when I start it |
| 19:17.13 | wols | pickcoder: he pasted logs and much more. loog above |
| 19:17.28 | roe_ | http://paste.uni.cc/11336 |
| 19:17.28 | pickcoder | I'm going to compare against my setup |
| 19:17.35 | roe_ | save you the scrolling |
| 19:17.46 | pickcoder | I have amavisd-new and spamassassin setup |
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| 19:18.02 | roe_ | then you're the man I'm taking to lunch :) |
| 19:19.08 | pickcoder | amavisd isn't listening |
| 19:19.13 | pickcoder | is it? |
| 19:19.17 | chafe | how do i know if my sound card chipset is compatible with a software mixer? like esd or alsa? |
| 19:19.23 | chafe | i dont think my chipset is compatible with anything!! |
| 19:19.27 | pickcoder | roe_: ps ax | grep amavis |
| 19:19.33 | chafe | its the ac97 intel8x0 in the gateway m505 laptop |
| 19:19.52 | infernix | i'm confused. cdrskin tells me it just burnt a cd but it is still blank when i check with -atip. the same goes for cdrecord (wodim). i'm on etch. |
| 19:19.52 | pickcoder | er.. make that netstat -ap |
| 19:20.03 | pickcoder | it should be on port 10024 |
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| 19:20.48 | roe_ | 4 results one master 2 virgin children and an smtpd -n amavis -t unix -u -o etc |
| 19:20.55 | pickcoder | roe_: for one thing.. you don't have a smtpd service running for amavis to dump mail back to |
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| 19:21.49 | roe_ | pickcoder: the second to last column is the port? |
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| 19:22.18 | pickcoder | roe_: no.. the first column should be a service name that translastes to a port in /etc/services |
| 19:22.25 | pickcoder | roe_: or a raw port number |
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| 19:22.55 | pickcoder | 10025 |
| 19:22.57 | pickcoder | :P |
| 19:23.00 | pickcoder | which is commented out |
| 19:23.12 | chafe | i cant get any sound mixers to work with my soundcard |
| 19:23.12 | pickcoder | restart master and try again |
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| 19:23.23 | pickcoder | er.. after you uncomment the 10025 service |
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| 19:24.02 | roe_ | tcp 0 0 localhost:10024 *:* LISTEN 7841/amavisd (maste |
| 19:24.23 | pickcoder | uncomment the amavis unix service too |
| 19:24.40 | pickcoder | postfix gets the mail |
| 19:24.45 | roe_ | pickcoder: restarting master is just /etc/init.d/amavis restart |
| 19:24.49 | pickcoder | sends it to amavis via content_filter |
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| 19:24.54 | Stevie[FP] | hrm |
| 19:24.57 | Stevie[FP] | tg3 is still loaded |
| 19:25.00 | pickcoder | amavis sends it back to postfix on 10025 |
| 19:25.23 | pickcoder | roe_: no.. /etc/init.d/postfix restart |
| 19:25.27 | hiremath | How do I use dupload over proxy? |
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| 19:25.59 | SplasPood | Does anyone know if the debian etch (testing) installer/lack of kernel modules package issue has been resolved? |
| 19:26.18 | roe_ | pickcoder: our back and forth was a little confusing besides uncommenting out the important entries everything looked correct? |
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| 19:26.23 | cydork | SplasPood, lack of kernel modules?? |
| 19:26.36 | pickcoder | roe_: yes, except my unix service is called smtp-amavis |
| 19:26.39 | SplasPood | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.39 | SplasPood | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.39 | SplasPood | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.56 | roe_ | pickcoder: and that shouldn't matter |
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| 19:27.09 | pickcoder | roe_: right.. as long as it matches the service name in main.cf for content_filter |
| 19:27.13 | Guerin | !punish SplasPood for pasting |
| 19:27.14 | pickcoder | gah |
| 19:27.14 | pickcoder | no |
| 19:27.15 | Stevie[FP] | okay, I don't have hotplug, I have udev |
| 19:27.16 | SplasPood | cydork: thats after booting the installer, picking t... |
| 19:27.20 | SplasPood | Guerin: it was only 3 lines :) |
| 19:27.29 | cydork | SplasPood, which kernel are you using? |
| 19:27.37 | pickcoder | er.. yeah. |
| 19:27.38 | roe_ | pickcoder: correct |
| 19:27.41 | SplasPood | cydork: whatever the default in the etch installer is... |
| 19:27.42 | pickcoder | brain fart.. ignore me |
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| 19:28.09 | pickcoder | roe_: make sure you uncomment the -o options for 10025 |
| 19:28.19 | pickcoder | and amavis |
| 19:28.51 | cydork | SplasPood, is that a latest installer? |
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| 19:30.07 | SplasPood | cydork: yes, pretty sure.. there haven't been any updates to the installer images on the mirror since we last deployed on our netinst |
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| 19:30.10 | amphi | ouf, not again |
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| 19:31.01 | roe_ | jeez what happened... pickcoder: http://paste.uni.cc/11338 that is the uncommented files |
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| 19:31.16 | pickcoder | netsplit.. orwell took a detour |
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| 19:31.38 | roe_ | same behaviour though... it sits with "connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] for a couple minutes then times out |
| 19:32.21 | pickcoder | roe_: limit services to 2 for amavis (unix) |
| 19:32.29 | pickcoder | roe_: n - 2 |
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| 19:32.53 | pickcoder | roe_: -o disable_dns_lookups=yes |
| 19:33.01 | pickcoder | you don't need dns lookups for a unix socket |
| 19:33.24 | Stevie[FP] | geh! still not working? |
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| 19:34.03 | SerajewelKS | wols left? |
| 19:34.05 | pickcoder | roe_: other than that it should run |
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| 19:34.24 | roe_ | pickcoder: I am adding the -o to the end of the options for the 10025 entry? |
| 19:34.26 | Bombo | how do i allow remote access to my local mysql server (etch) |
| 19:34.33 | pickcoder | roe_: that's because of the missing dns lookups param on amavis |
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| 19:34.42 | pickcoder | roe_: no.. amavis |
| 19:34.57 | pickcoder | roe_: you don't want smtpd trying to reverse lookups on a file socket |
| 19:34.58 | Bombo | is there a command or config to allow from 10.5.0.x ip? |
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| 19:35.19 | roe_ | gotcha |
| 19:35.29 | chafe | can anyone tell me why nothing works with sound other than the OSS driver |
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| 19:35.36 | chafe | i cannot even get any wrappers for esd or alsa to work |
| 19:35.38 | chafe | the wrappers do not work |
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| 19:36.02 | chafe | is this normal? should an oss to esd wrapper work with any OSS application? |
| 19:36.11 | chafe | how can i tell if my sound card is not compatible with esd? |
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| 19:36.25 | pickcoder | I thought ESD was a stand-alone sound daemon |
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| 19:36.30 | chafe | i thought so too |
| 19:36.45 | chafe | i cant get it to work, and i cant get anything to work under the esddsp wrapper |
| 19:36.50 | cydork | chafe, what happens if you try alsa? |
| 19:36.57 | chafe | cydork it doesnt work either |
| 19:37.04 | pickcoder | !alsa-one-liner |
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| 19:37.24 | mbn_18 | llo everyone. something really strage is going with my debian. in root shell i can write hebrew words ( normal ). if i so 'su - postgres' i no longer can write hebrew words |
| 19:37.27 | mbn_18 | any idea ? |
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| 19:37.32 | chafe | oh jesus |
| 19:37.35 | cydork | chafe, means what? |
| 19:37.40 | chafe | this girl just waved to me why did she do that what does she want |
| 19:37.40 | roe_ | pickcoder: no change... |
| 19:37.50 | Bhavesh | chafe: wave back at her |
| 19:37.59 | chafe | Bhavesh no shes fat |
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| 19:38.05 | Bhavesh | chafe: then HIDE |
| 19:38.14 | chafe | Bhavesh i did |
| 19:38.14 | Bhavesh | chafe: under your desk, and pretend you didn't see her wave |
| 19:38.18 | chafe | yea |
| 19:38.18 | pickcoder | roe_: you restarted postfix? |
| 19:38.39 | roe_ | yup |
| 19:38.51 | pickcoder | roe_: doh.. drop the "d" off of amavis' "smtpd" on the end |
| 19:39.02 | pickcoder | smtp and smtpd are two different programs |
| 19:39.06 | spiralvoice | hi, i am using etch, after todays update and reboot the network interface is not configure anymore, anybody aware of a bug? |
| 19:39.15 | pickcoder | one is for sending.. the other is for receiving |
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| 19:39.25 | cydork | chafe, na dont hide, just tell her that you want to replace your brain with debian stable :P |
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| 19:40.04 | chafe | actly i waved back at her on an impulse |
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| 19:40.39 | roe_ | :) |
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| 19:41.02 | pickcoder | no wonder it was getting confused |
| 19:41.36 | pickcoder | all good now? |
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| 19:41.52 | roe_ | it is being passed back and forth smoothly |
| 19:42.03 | pickcoder | !beer roe_ |
| 19:42.14 | pickcoder | bbiab |
| 19:42.16 | Stevie[FP] | okay |
| 19:42.24 | Stevie[FP] | I cannot figure out why the tg3 driver is being loaded |
| 19:42.26 | infernix | oh, great. wodim is turning my cds into coasters. it'll burn 10-100mb and then it just stops. |
| 19:43.03 | Phated | cdrecord :) |
| 19:43.13 | roe_ | pickcoder: I am only an hr from the the brewery :) |
| 19:43.17 | infernix | Phated: on etch? |
| 19:43.33 | roe_ | I do thank you much, I was getting extremely discouraged |
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| 19:44.14 | Phated | infernix: <shrug> it prolly exists - if not, xcdroast or something, I guess. |
| 19:44.17 | yang | I get a strange error on /etc/init.d/package start (and bunch of unconfigured packages with apt-get install too) -> http://pastebin.ca/234692 |
| 19:44.22 | chafe | so theoreticaclly.. no matter how crappy my sound chipset is.. i should be able to use the alsa or esd sound mixers and hear sound from more than one application at the same time |
| 19:44.46 | infernix | Phated: you're probably not aware of the fact that in etch, cdrecord has been replaced by wodim :) |
| 19:45.23 | xaka | stupid Q: vsftpd allways say me "Login failed", but "local_enable=YES" and i correct login in shell. I'm in panic. I don't know what i must do. that is folly |
| 19:45.28 | amphi | infernix: is that a fork of cdrecord? |
| 19:45.33 | roe_ | yang do a df -h what does it report? |
| 19:45.33 | cydork | yang, which version of debian is that? and which version of mysql? |
| 19:45.35 | infernix | amphi: i believe so. |
| 19:45.36 | Phated | infernix: I was not, in fact - thanks, now I am :) |
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| 19:45.50 | osacix | hi |
| 19:46.04 | osacix | i have problems with ndiswrapper |
| 19:46.21 | infernix | oh well. it's probably punishment for me burning an ubuntu iso :) |
| 19:46.21 | blondie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.30 | cydork | blondie, 21?? |
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| 19:46.38 | blondie | window 21. |
| 19:46.40 | DoberMann | blondie: failure |
| 19:46.42 | amphi | infernix: heh |
| 19:46.43 | yang | cydork: its debian etch and mysql 5.0.24 |
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| 19:46.48 | cydork | blondie, when you reach 50, see a doc :P |
| 19:46.50 | Phated | infernix: Heh. |
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| 19:46.53 | yang | roe_: i will paste in #flood |
| 19:46.59 | roe_ | ?j #flood |
| 19:47.01 | roe_ | doh |
| 19:47.06 | Phated | infernix: There must be a ton of other tools for burning anyway :) |
| 19:47.24 | infernix | Phated: not that many. most use cdrecord |
| 19:47.25 | xaka | hm...may be in vsftpd bug? :) |
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| 19:47.37 | Phated | infernix: Yeah, I used to use cdrecord. |
| 19:47.59 | amphi | cdrecord has always worked ok for me |
| 19:48.03 | yang | cydork: i did an unsuccesfull xserver-xorg installation, and then purged the things out, mabye it started bugging from that point on |
| 19:48.08 | eeyore- | what the heck is wodim |
| 19:48.41 | cydork | yang, well what ever it is, it's borked. And you did it :) |
| 19:48.56 | eeyore- | workshop on dielectrics in microelectronics |
| 19:49.01 | amphi | eeyore-: a fork of, or replacement for, cdrecord - Schilling-frei FTW ;) |
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| 19:49.27 | infernix | Phated: i also ment that most tools use cdrecord in the background, like k3b does |
| 19:49.37 | eeyore- | word of deliverance institutional ministries, inc. |
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| 19:49.45 | Phated | infernix: Mm, true - what else IS there, other than cdrcord? |
| 19:49.47 | abrotman | cue banjo! |
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| 19:50.04 | Phated | eeyore-: New cdrecord, according to infernix. |
| 19:50.06 | infernix | Phated: i looked at cdrskin but am having similar problems there |
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| 19:50.32 | Phated | infernix: Ah. |
| 19:50.40 | infernix | perhaps it's my CDRs though, i'm starting to wonder |
| 19:50.42 | pickcoder | hm.. I think I may just have to make one.. |
| 19:50.47 | WorkRoey | abrotman: heya |
| 19:50.50 | pickcoder | wonder if thinkgeek would sell 'em |
| 19:51.02 | WorkRoey | and Phated, always Phated |
| 19:51.03 | WorkRoey | hey |
| 19:51.03 | eeyore- | it (the name) doesn't immediately bring to mind "hey, i'm a tool for writing to optical media" |
| 19:51.18 | abrotman | hi roey |
| 19:51.29 | Phated | ... who's Roey? |
| 19:51.47 | Phated | But, er, hi, WorkRoey. |
| 19:52.14 | Roey | heh |
| 19:52.19 | wols | eeyore-: "iceweasel" doesn't say "I'm a browser for html" either |
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| 19:52.49 | Roey | brachiator |
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| 19:52.53 | chafe | holy crap alsa is working |
| 19:52.55 | eeyore- | wols: bingo |
| 19:52.55 | chafe | thats tight |
| 19:53.01 | mbn_18 | where the LANG & the LANGUAGE ENV are set up ? |
| 19:53.02 | chafe | i dont have another program to test it with though ;c |
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| 19:53.04 | pickcoder | iceweasel reminds me of Scratch from Ice Age.. not a good thing considering stability |
| 19:53.05 | Roey | web brachiator |
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| 19:53.13 | Roey | webwrangler |
| 19:53.15 | Roey | who knows. |
| 19:53.35 | weissi | hey guys, little bit OT, but does anyone know a good webblog hoster for free? (if available an open one) |
| 19:53.53 | yang | cydork: so you suggest reinstall? |
| 19:53.57 | eeyore- | abrotman: please chck your /message |
| 19:54.02 | Phated | Roey: Well, firefox never did either. |
| 19:54.02 | yang | cydork: nothing to be fixed? |
| 19:54.08 | pickcoder | weissi: www.wordpress.com ? |
| 19:54.19 | pickcoder | or you can download the package for Debian |
| 19:54.21 | Phated | pickcoder: Scratch may be unstable, but he never dies :) |
| 19:54.21 | abrotman | eeyore-: i don't have one |
| 19:54.22 | pickcoder | <g> |
| 19:54.26 | abrotman | eeyore-: or you mean msgserv? |
| 19:54.30 | pickcoder | Phated: true |
| 19:54.33 | eeyore- | abrotman: i just /msg you |
| 19:54.40 | abrotman | no you didn't |
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| 19:55.06 | beardy | weissi: That's probably what you got, blogsites. Other "free" hosting is usually full of ads and nasty crap. |
| 19:55.08 | amphi | eeyore-: you're not identified |
| 19:55.09 | Roey | Phated: I think it shows a little naivetee on firefox promoters' part that they don't even portray to nkow what a firefox (red panda) really is |
| 19:55.13 | Phated | amphi: He is. |
| 19:55.15 | eeyore- | yeah, figured |
| 19:55.27 | Phated | Well, he was, as of 0355. |
| 19:55.37 | amphi | Phated: doesn't seem to be now |
| 19:55.38 | weissi | pickcoder, beardy: thank you! |
| 19:55.41 | Phated | Roey: Yeh, but firefoxes are adorable. |
| 19:55.56 | cydork | yang, well not reinstall the whole thing .. but you are certainly missing somethings.. |
| 19:56.00 | beardy | Oh, Phated is late for bed, or early up? |
| 19:56.01 | Phated | eeyore- : is identified to services. |
| 19:56.19 | Phated | amphi: Dunno, my whois shows he is, maybe he'snot. Isn't freenode mucking up right now anyway? |
| 19:56.27 | Roey | Phated: you mean the red pandas? |
| 19:56.28 | Roey | oh yeah :) |
| 19:56.32 | amphi | Phated: seems to have been for a while |
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| 19:56.52 | amphi | Roey: heh, I saw a red panda once, in Sikkim |
| 19:56.55 | Phated | amphi: Yeah. |
| 19:56.55 | Roey | also I'm partial to anthropomorphic art, so I love the current FF logo just the same. |
| 19:57.00 | Roey | amphi: where's sikkim? |
| 19:57.05 | Phated | amphi: I dunno, my most recent oneshows he is. |
| 19:57.10 | Roey | amphi: they have them at the zoo in DC |
| 19:57.25 | Roey | amphi: they don't know if it's related more to the giant panda or to a weasel, imagine that ;0 |
| 19:57.28 | amphi | Phated: now mine does too ;) |
| 19:57.37 | Phated | amphi: Heh. |
| 19:57.40 | craigevil | i like the iceweasel logo |
| 19:58.00 | amphi | Roey: they're hard to spot in the jungle, as they don't move much |
| 19:58.02 | yang | cydork: could you have a look on my box? |
| 19:58.02 | eucalre | sup? |
| 19:58.02 | eeyore- | anybody wanna see the japanese firefox icon? looks like the fox has too much wasabi! |
| 19:58.12 | amphi | Roey: Sikkim is between Nepal and Bhutan |
| 19:58.24 | Braindead | eeyore-: is there tentacle porn in the japanese icon? a bit of bukkake? |
| 19:58.47 | Roey | amphi: in the wild you saw them, you mean??? wow |
| 19:58.52 | yang | cydork: maybe i could solve it by myself - here is another error: http://pastebin.ca/234712 |
| 19:58.54 | Roey | Braindead: :) |
| 19:59.09 | amphi | Roey: yeah, one, once |
| 19:59.12 | Roey | nice |
| 19:59.12 | eeyore- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.24 | Roey | I wonder if I try to pet one, if it will rip my face off. |
| 19:59.26 | Roey | I hope it doesn't. |
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| 19:59.30 | cydork | yang, do a aptitude upgrade |
| 19:59.40 | chafe | OH MY GOD IT WORKS |
| 19:59.45 | chafe | ok |
| 19:59.59 | yang | cydork: with aptitude upgrade i get : |
| 20:00.03 | chafe | YOU GUYS |
| 20:00.05 | yang | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache2-mod-php5: Depends: apache2.2-common but it is not installable |
| 20:00.19 | pickcoder | eeyore-: nice icon |
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| 20:00.54 | Phated | eeyore-: OMG, the cute! |
| 20:01.45 | Roey | oh now I remmeber you Phated |
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| 20:01.59 | Phated | Roey: But I don't! Who are you? :( |
| 20:02.10 | hads | Anyone know anything about sieve support being removed from the latest dovecot-common package (1.0.rc10-2)? |
| 20:02.10 | Roey | I keep getting you confused with someone else with a near-same nick! |
| 20:02.13 | Roey | Phated: I am Roey |
| 20:02.21 | Phated | Roey: Unhelpful. I don't know who you are. |
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| 20:02.26 | dareth_2 | join #politics |
| 20:02.35 | cydork | yang, is that sid? |
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| 20:02.37 | Roey | Inkeeper of Asylum for Retired System Administrators |
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| 20:02.39 | Phated | dareth_2: Here, have a / :) |
| 20:02.42 | beardy | eeyore-: Awww :) |
| 20:02.47 | amphi | dareth_2: wtf for? |
| 20:02.51 | dareth_2 | thanks, used my last on on slashdot |
| 20:02.51 | Phated | eeyore-: That's too adorable :) |
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| 20:03.08 | Phated | dareth_2: You should always spell the name when commenting :) |
| 20:03.08 | Roey | Phated: I'm just Roey, twenty-six, in Maryland, working in Virginia in information security |
| 20:03.16 | Roey | Phated: how about yourself? (what do you do?) |
| 20:03.22 | Phated | Roey: Yeah, but why do you remember who I am? Have we met? |
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| 20:03.43 | Roey | Phated: only on-line |
| 20:04.01 | Roey | Phated: I forgot your name though, so I apologize. |
| 20:04.28 | yang | cydork: no it's etch |
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| 20:04.42 | peterS | I think Roey is bluffing |
| 20:04.56 | Phated | peterS: Heheh. Hello, darling, how are you? *hug* |
| 20:05.03 | cydork | wtf? |
| 20:05.07 | peterS | hey (: doing very well, thanks |
| 20:05.22 | peterS | cydork: that's right, you're in #fedora |
| 20:05.43 | beardy | cydork: Where's your hat? |
| 20:05.44 | Phated | peterS: Wonderful to hear. |
| 20:05.55 | cydork | peterS, i was thinking more aol :P |
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| 20:06.00 | eeyore- | i hate ipass software ... wait, i hate pretty much all windows software |
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| 20:06.07 | peterS | Phated: and yourself ... this isn't really your time of day, is it? |
| 20:06.35 | yang | cydork: i really want to start mysql again... |
| 20:06.49 | Phated | peterS: Oh, I'm wonderful, but I've started moving sleep around to work on a more flexible sleep schedule, so that on the days I'm at my part-time I don't collapse at school. |
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| 20:07.09 | peterS | oooh, school and a part-time. how's that working out for you? |
| 20:07.37 | chafe | why is it when i try to run firefox with the aoss wrapper it doenst execute under the wrapper? the wrapper stops and firefox starts on its own, or it appears |
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| 20:08.05 | cydork | yang, reinstall mysql :) |
| 20:08.45 | Phated | peterS: financially wonderful, socially excellent (the laid! Win!), academically manageable, all in all, very enjoyably, thank you :) |
| 20:09.11 | peterS | heh |
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| 20:09.41 | peterS | hrrm, I just said 'heh' in the wrong channel right before saying it here - good thing the last thing I said in that channel _could_ be taken as a joke.. |
| 20:09.47 | Phated | Heh. |
| 20:10.05 | yang | cydork: well apt-get upgrade gives me all sort of unconfigured packages... http://pastebin.ca/234732 |
| 20:10.38 | yang | cydork: Segmentation fault stty -a 2>/dev/null |
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| 20:10.51 | peterS | yang: 'apt-get upgrade' is so 2002. these days we always recommend 'aptitude upgrade' or 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. |
| 20:11.15 | peterS | the main disadvantage being that aptitude is a horrible CPU / memory hog |
| 20:11.51 | chafe | aha! i have a solution |
| 20:12.11 | beardy | It is, but it's so much nicer anyway. |
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| 20:12.15 | GooE | how do i set recursevly " chmod -R 0740 * " but only for directories for files i want it 0640 |
| 20:12.19 | cydork | yang, yep i agree with peterS, you need to do an upgrade .. |
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| 20:12.36 | george_ | GooE: look into find and xargs |
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| 20:12.41 | peterS | GooE: why 740? that means people in your group can list the directory but cannot access files in it. is that really what you want? |
| 20:13.02 | newbie | http://www.oltrelinux.com/forums/read.php?f=705&i=1&t=1 |
| 20:13.04 | Karamon | Is 127.0.0.1 the default loopback address? |
| 20:13.09 | peterS | GooE: if you mean 640 and 750, I'd do "chmod -R u+rwX,g+rX" |
| 20:13.14 | peterS | Karamon: yes |
| 20:13.28 | george_ | Karamon: it's actually 127.anything (8-bit net) |
| 20:13.42 | Karamon | peterS: If during configuration I told it to not set up a loopback address, how can I change that now? |
| 20:13.51 | infernixx | when i "cdebootstrap etch /target ftp://some/debian/mirror', I'm getting "unknown suite etch". did someone rename or remove etch?:) |
| 20:13.59 | george_ | look at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:14.10 | george_ | see if there is/is not "auto lo" |
| 20:14.18 | yang | peterS: cydork I get all the nasty errors when doing aptitude upgrade...http://pastebin.ca/234737 |
| 20:14.32 | peterS | Karamon: I didn't know you could tell it not to set up a loopback address. anyway, make sure "127.0.0.1 localhost" is in /etc/hosts, and make sure "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" are in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:14.33 | george_ | also... of course... man 5 interfaces |
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| 20:14.38 | Karamon | george_: I see a "auto lo" line as well as a "iface lo inet loopback" is that all that needs to be set? |
| 20:14.52 | george_ | is the auto lo commented out? |
| 20:14.58 | Karamon | Nope |
| 20:15.10 | peterS | Karamon: yes, that's correct. and the "127.0.0.1 localhost" in /etc/hosts is useful too. |
| 20:15.16 | george_ | hmm, is your lo up now? (ifconfig, look at the paragraphs) |
| 20:15.41 | george_ | according to what you're telling us, it should come up at boot |
| 20:15.44 | Karamon | The hosts file reads: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
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| 20:15.59 | george_ | yeah, that's good |
| 20:16.01 | mess-mate | hi |
| 20:16.07 | Karamon | I have no proof that its NOT working, I'm just trying to troubleshoot a bacula installation and I can't get bconsole to work. I wanted to make sure this wasn't the problem. |
| 20:16.15 | george_ | it should be up now, unless you took it down since you last booted |
| 20:16.28 | peterS | Karamon: that seems fine. you should be able to 'ping localhost' and get packets back in 0 from |
| 20:16.33 | george_ | Karamon: try ssh localhost |
| 20:16.34 | peterS | 0 milliseconds from 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:16.35 | george_ | or |
| 20:16.40 | george_ | try ping localhost |
| 20:16.41 | Karamon | ping localhost = success |
| 20:16.47 | george_ | so it IS up |
| 20:16.52 | george_ | that proves it |
| 20:16.52 | Karamon | Thankyou :) |
| 20:17.02 | Karamon | Does anyone have any working knowledge of Bacula? |
| 20:17.06 | mess-mate | hi all; i've a problem: Ihave no Username ! Help |
| 20:17.12 | chafe | baccula |
| 20:17.12 | peterS | I don't, unfortunately |
| 20:17.28 | george_ | doesn't it bite necks and cause the bitee to live dead forever or something? |
| 20:17.28 | Phated | mess-mate: Further information is needed - what box, why do you have no username, do you have root access? |
| 20:17.40 | chafe | bah! |
| 20:17.47 | chafe | why does apt-get.org not find aaxine |
| 20:17.55 | chafe | aaxine is pretty much extremely neccessary |
| 20:18.05 | george_ | chafe: it's not looking in that direction? |
| 20:18.15 | george_ | for what? never heard of it |
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| 20:18.24 | chafe | you know what xine is right |
| 20:18.26 | mess-mate | yes, i've root access; i've a id : 1000 but no NAME (like mess-mate) Debian/sarge |
| 20:18.29 | george_ | and I've survived (since about 1987 :) |
| 20:18.30 | peterS | george_: it's a movie player for a text console |
| 20:18.30 | chafe | its a xine-ui that uses aalib |
| 20:18.36 | chafe | play divx movies in ascii art!@! |
| 20:18.39 | chafe | aalib is tight |
| 20:18.45 | george_ | oh, necessary? heh :) |
| 20:18.51 | chafe | extremely, george_ |
| 20:18.52 | Phated | chafe: Er, it's in the xine package. |
| 20:18.54 | peterS | george_: it's just as cool as quake + aalib |
| 20:18.56 | chafe | you dont even understand |
| 20:18.56 | Karamon | Does anyone have any suggestions for a easy backup solution on debian that can back up servers over a network? |
| 20:18.59 | beardy | aalib++ |
| 20:19.18 | Phated | Rather - xine-ui. |
| 20:19.22 | george_ | well you're sorta right and sorta wrong about me not understanding :) |
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| 20:19.29 | george_ | but I digress |
| 20:19.30 | chafe | oh, so it is Phated |
| 20:19.40 | Phated | chafe: It comes when you install xine :) |
| 20:20.15 | peterS | chafe: for someone who thinks he's so hard-core that he needs a text-console video player, you really should learn how to search for binaries within available packages |
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| 20:20.43 | chafe | :] |
| 20:20.54 | chafe | i didnt think it was hardcore |
| 20:20.59 | chafe | its just cool to show people |
| 20:21.16 | peterS | I've never actually tried aaxine. I do admit to being amused by cmatrix, though. |
| 20:21.44 | chafe | aalib is tight |
| 20:21.44 | chafe | you can play quake with it too |
| 20:21.47 | chafe | over SSH |
| 20:22.07 | Phated | peterS: cmatrix++ |
| 20:22.20 | Braindead | peterS: give bb a try |
| 20:22.30 | Phated | Oh, isn't that the one with the fire animations? |
| 20:22.39 | peterS | Braindead: yeah I have |
| 20:22.44 | peterS | right |
| 20:22.52 | Braindead | ah,ok. now mplayer -vo caca |
| 20:22.55 | yang | cydork: I get segmentation fault even when doing fucking "pico" or "grep" |
| 20:22.56 | Braindead | :) |
| 20:23.09 | george_ | chafe: still valid: if you want things to show to people, learn how to find them :) |
| 20:23.12 | peterS | yang: that's a problem. wtf did you do to your system to get it into that state, do you know? |
| 20:23.23 | chafe | george_ pff |
| 20:23.28 | chafe | i mean yea |
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| 20:23.34 | Stevie[FP] | modprobe appears to be ignoring my blacklist entry |
| 20:23.35 | Stevie[FP] | !#)#(% |
| 20:23.44 | yang | peterS: i installed xserver-xorg and then i purged it out....but even after that my VNC worked well |
| 20:24.03 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: how did you do the blacklist entry? maybe you got the wrong syntax? |
| 20:24.11 | george_ | chafe: why not try? you'll discover A LOT of stuff that you'd never otherwise hear about |
| 20:24.18 | Stevie[FP] | I based it on the other lines in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 20:24.19 | chafe | lmao @ cmatrix |
| 20:24.25 | Stevie[FP] | just a line saying "blacklist tg3" |
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| 20:24.46 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: I didn't know that syntax was available - I just use things like 'alias tg3 off' |
| 20:24.46 | Stevie[FP] | what's an effective way to test the blacklisting line? |
| 20:24.59 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: try modprobe manually and see what error you get |
| 20:25.04 | Roey | peterS: whatever happened to mwilson? |
| 20:25.15 | peterS | Roey: permanently banned from the channel |
| 20:25.19 | Roey | ???? |
| 20:25.24 | Roey | how come? |
| 20:25.25 | george_ | Roey: someone got tired of his crap and banned him permanently |
| 20:25.26 | peterS | he couldn't seem to figure out how to not be an ass |
| 20:25.31 | Roey | george_: ahh |
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| 20:25.34 | Stevie[FP] | the stupid alsa package depends on both modutils and module-init-tools |
| 20:25.43 | peterS | not for extended periods of time, anyway |
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| 20:25.53 | Roey | peterS: I thought that this personality was the defining character of #debian for the longest time |
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| 20:26.04 | george_ | hopefully assuffield will be next |
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| 20:26.21 | peterS | george_: asuffield left the Debian Project voluntarily, though he was perhaps under a certain amount of pressure to do so |
| 20:26.33 | george_ | oh good! |
| 20:26.35 | george_ | really? |
| 20:26.38 | Phated | Yes. |
| 20:26.42 | george_ | wow!! |
| 20:26.45 | Phated | peterS: It's so sad :( |
| 20:26.50 | Phated | peterS: Everyone's dying! |
| 20:26.51 | peterS | george_: i.e., he may have been driven to it by people's negative attitudes towards him |
| 20:27.05 | george_ | umm I think he was first on that point :) |
| 20:27.10 | Phated | peterS: There is no place for meanies like myself in this new order :) See http://scsys.co.uk:8007/4824 for proof :) |
| 20:27.16 | Stevie[FP] | GAH |
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| 20:27.21 | Stevie[FP] | It still loads |
| 20:27.25 | george_ | major negative attitude, especially towards users |
| 20:27.42 | george_ | who he literally said he hates |
| 20:27.46 | Stevie[FP] | right in the middle of the ACPI messages, I get 'tg3.c:v3.59.1 (August 25, 2006)' |
| 20:27.48 | vin` | !greetings |
| 20:27.49 | dpkg | hello, vin` |
| 20:27.59 | george_ | beautiful! |
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| 20:28.16 | peterS | Phated: reading... |
| 20:28.20 | Phated | peterS: Mmhrm. |
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| 20:29.26 | beardy | george_: Well, who doesn't, really. |
| 20:29.40 | cahoot | Phated: you seriously complain about people taking offense to being shouted at for petty reasons? |
| 20:30.04 | george_ | beardy: not sure what you're saying... who doesn't what? |
| 20:30.34 | peterS | Phated: yeah, that's a bit confusing without context. I guess you were rude to someone _else_ and he thought he should tell you not to? |
| 20:30.35 | Phated | cahoot: Eh - I complain about being policed by random members of channel who think it's up to them to decide if I should censor what I say when talking to -them- specifically - see bottom of thread. |
| 20:30.44 | george_ | if you program and you hate users, you're in the WRONG business |
| 20:30.56 | Phated | peterS: But then he says at the end it's about HIM. Lastlog Phated if you last to ;) |
| 20:31.03 | Phated | Er, s/last/have/ |
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| 20:31.42 | beardy | george_: Hate is such a strong word. |
| 20:32.01 | Phated | peterS: But no, someone flooded, came back, and pasted EXACTLY the same thing, but slower - my response, which was what he decided to base his campaign on, was "What the FUCK is wrong with you? You get kicked, come back, and do exactly the SAME thing?" - more or less. |
| 20:32.07 | beardy | Or should we say STRONG? |
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| 20:32.25 | Phated | peterS: It wasn't -hostile-, and I suppose he thought it was, but the point being I didn't know we had channel sheriffs without @s now :( |
| 20:32.25 | george_ | yes. and it's not a good word to use... except suffield did |
| 20:32.43 | beardy | peterS: That was what happened, as she said. |
| 20:32.45 | Stevie[FP] | is there any way to trace modprobes? |
| 20:32.50 | george_ | its effect can be wayy too strong |
| 20:32.56 | MarcN | Anyone know of a good apache2 log to MySQL package? libapache-mod-acct-mysql is apache 1.3 based |
| 20:33.02 | Phated | peterS: Yeah, or get an account from beardy :) |
| 20:33.25 | kingsley | What's an mp3 player with a user friendly GUI that doesn't use ALSA or OSS? |
| 20:33.30 | beardy | Phated: peterS has a nice shiny badge though ;) |
| 20:33.42 | george_ | MarcN: mysql? why? when there is postgres, a -good- database server :) |
| 20:33.55 | peterS | Phated: right, from your account, that doesn't seem at all out of line. I'm open to hear an opposing view, but if jordigh doesn't offer me one, I'm inclined to ignore it (: |
| 20:33.57 | Phated | beardy: He does, and if -he- kicks me, I'll happily shit up :) |
| 20:34.03 | Phated | peterS: :) |
| 20:34.08 | h3sp4wn | kingsley: mpd maybe (but I don't really know what you are getting at) |
| 20:34.09 | peterS | and nice typo there just now |
| 20:34.15 | beardy | Hehe |
| 20:34.22 | george_ | interesting image too |
| 20:34.31 | Phated | Shush. |
| 20:34.34 | george_ | :) |
| 20:34.48 | MarcN | george_: okay tell me about a pgsql variety |
| 20:35.02 | Phated | peterS: I hasn't known that the user jordigh reference had difficulties communicating, but as I said, both here and to him in query - if you're kicked, you need to read the reason. |
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| 20:35.37 | peterS | Phated: well, and if he pasted the same thing again, slowly, he obviously knew why he had been kicked |
| 20:35.53 | peterS | otherwise he would have just re-pasted and gotten re-kicked |
| 20:35.58 | george_ | MarcN: first what are you trying to accomplish overall? |
| 20:35.58 | Phated | peterS: Mmhrm. |
| 20:36.08 | kingsley | h3sp4wn: I'm looking for an mp3 player that shares its audio device with the text to speech application named "festival". Those that use OSS and ALSA conflict. |
| 20:36.12 | beardy | Kicked? He quit. |
| 20:36.17 | Phated | peterS: The best part is, it wasn't a -paste- - it was him typing too fast. |
| 20:36.30 | Phated | beardy: No, the other dude, not jordigh. |
| 20:36.32 | hads | Anyone know anything about sieve support being removed from the latest dovecot-common package (1.0.rc10-2)? Or is there a better place to ask? |
| 20:36.38 | george_ | and possibly pressing enter too often? |
| 20:36.38 | beardy | Oh, him, yes.. he typed as an ubuntu paster.. |
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| 20:36.46 | beardy | Both. |
| 20:36.46 | vin` | yawn |
| 20:36.53 | MarcN | george_: I just want to centralize all my apache logs for the half dozen crappy websites at the end of my DSL line. Basically dump access.log. |
| 20:37.02 | Phated | peterS: Abusing enter, really - and then he said that he had issues composiing english, which... well, you can type slowly on one line, as I said also. |
| 20:37.04 | george_ | oh, ok |
| 20:37.29 | george_ | what you'll find nice about pg is it's fairly good on a concurrent basis |
| 20:37.36 | peterS | Phated: right. that's a matter of style, nobody _has_ to hit enter every 2 words, they just have to know it's considered bad form here |
| 20:37.45 | h3sp4wn | kingsley: setup dmix (alsa plugin) and have festival output to alsa |
| 20:37.50 | george_ | you looking to use a database for any other purpose? |
| 20:37.51 | MarcN | george_: I get a few hundred hits/day -- performance isn't a problem. |
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| 20:38.10 | peterS | george_: so you use the database server that is rated PG rather than the one rated M? |
| 20:38.15 | beardy | peterS: When getting kicked one could think that the message should get through. |
| 20:38.19 | Phated | peterS: Mmhrm. |
| 20:38.29 | george_ | peterS: ouch! my virgin ears! |
| 20:38.52 | Phated | peterS: Although I consider he could have been lazy and just not bothered to re-compose a single-line sentence. Which, IMO, warrants being shouted at. |
| 20:39.01 | peterS | which reminds me, whatever happened to mSQL? it was an old non-free competitor somewhere around the level of mysql |
| 20:39.01 | beardy | Wow, what a good place for an mhallsmite.. |
| 20:39.40 | peterS | I suppose msql just lost because it's hard to compete if your product isn't better than mysql _and_ it isn't free |
| 20:39.52 | george_ | to learn sql, I went from msql to mysql... never used either for anything other than that... no particular reason, I just lost interest for awhile |
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| 20:40.23 | george_ | mysql wasn't free at the time |
| 20:40.34 | kingsley | h3sp4wn: Isn't dmix enabled by default? |
| 20:40.36 | george_ | not the server anywayt |
| 20:40.38 | peterS | george_: oh, true |
| 20:40.55 | peterS | maybe the freeing of mysql is what did msql in |
| 20:41.06 | george_ | I can't fathom that :) |
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| 20:41.22 | george_ | wonder what their goals were tho |
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| 20:41.55 | peterS | also, was msql supposed to be pronounced "mess-q-l"? |
| 20:42.17 | george_ | peterS: so THAT is what you get when you shit up? |
| 20:42.52 | george_ | harsh :) |
| 20:43.02 | george_ | tough room |
| 20:43.21 | beardy | ... |
| 20:43.25 | beardy | !channel |
| 20:43.25 | dpkg | [channel] This refers to the group of resellers that supply most companies with software, hardware, and support. The channel is a force to be reckoned with, and it competes directly against companies like Gateway 2000 and Dell. A channel can also be a content container, like a television channel. You may be watching TV channels on the Internet someday. |
| 20:43.37 | george_ | my comment stands as is |
| 20:43.39 | beardy | great.. |
| 20:43.42 | Phated | !room |
| 20:43.42 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
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| 20:43.51 | Phated | Your bot-fu fails. |
| 20:43.52 | beardy | Phated: Thanks. :) |
| 20:43.58 | beardy | Indeed it did.. |
| 20:44.12 | peterS | !no channel is <reply> is this teh room for debain help plz ??? lol |
| 20:44.12 | dpkg | okay, peterS |
| 20:44.20 | Phated | Heh. |
| 20:44.21 | beardy | !beer peterS |
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| 20:44.56 | beardy | wth wrote the other crap.. |
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| 20:45.04 | eeyore- | george_: what comment? |
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| 20:45.17 | george_ | "tough room" :) |
| 20:45.31 | cydork | !qotd199 |
| 20:45.31 | dpkg | [qotd199] Dabian: This is a support channel - not a help channel - which means we try to humiliate the users by exposing their lack of knowledge and netiqette, in a way subtle enough to not add to their knowledge. :-) |
| 20:45.44 | Sayers | I am screaming this music :D |
| 20:46.00 | amphi | cydork: heh |
| 20:46.24 | Sayers | I love it loud |
| 20:46.28 | Sayers | It's nice for a change. |
| 20:46.33 | george_ | yeah, I can see that about this roo^Wchannel :) |
| 20:46.38 | Sayers | If I blow the speakers tho... :( |
| 20:47.20 | george_ | Sayers: then get a full PA and REALLY blow your ears (and your neighbors) out :) |
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| 20:47.31 | jooopyme | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.47 | jooopyme | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.48 | DaBlade | Is there a way to do apt-cache search (or something equal to it) but having it only show installed packages? |
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| 20:48.05 | azeem | DaBlade: grep-dctrl maybe |
| 20:48.06 | cydork | DaBlade, dpkg -l |
| 20:48.07 | peterS | DaBlade: nothing simple that I know of |
| 20:48.20 | peterS | cydork: dpkg -l doesn't show or let you search package descriptions, though. that seems useful. |
| 20:48.20 | eeyore- | Roey: mwilson wasn't banned for a long time because of deference ... but i guess there came a point |
| 20:48.22 | azeem | cydork: that doesn't search through descriptions |
| 20:48.23 | DaBlade | azeem: How do I use that |
| 20:48.31 | azeem | DaBlade: read the documentation |
| 20:48.33 | cydork | duhhh |
| 20:48.33 | azeem | it's non-trivial |
| 20:48.47 | DaBlade | ok |
| 20:48.51 | Stevie[FP] | [Test(Description = "Mixing environments should fail")] |
| 20:48.51 | Stevie[FP] | [ExpectedException(typeof(InvalidOperationException))] |
| 20:48.52 | Stevie[FP] | public void NoMixedEnvironmentsWithRequired() |
| 20:48.52 | Stevie[FP] | { |
| 20:48.52 | Stevie[FP] | // only mixed drinks |
| 20:48.52 | Stevie[FP] | using (TransactionBoundary tbint = new TransactionBoundary(EnvironmentMode.Integration, TransactionRequirement.Required)) |
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| 20:49.01 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 20:49.06 | Stevie[FP] | oops |
| 20:49.07 | jooopyme | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.08 | eeyore- | my ass will probably be banned next. heck, i don't even use debian much these days :-) |
| 20:49.17 | Stevie[FP] | sorry |
| 20:49.21 | peterS | DaBlade: to be honest, 'aptitude search' can probably do it, but its pattern syntax is quite complex so I can't say for sure |
| 20:49.21 | Stevie[FP] | stupid clipboard |
| 20:49.27 | Phated | eeyore-: But you're an op! |
| 20:49.28 | george_ | Sayers: http://drummerworld.com/Sound/simonphillipsMangan.mp3 |
| 20:49.45 | DaBlade | peterS: Ok. |
| 20:49.45 | Stevie[FP] | aptitude's in-UI search uses regexes |
| 20:49.53 | Stevie[FP] | what's DaBlade searching for? |
| 20:50.04 | azeem | 21:38 < DaBlade> Is there a way to do apt-cache search (or something equal to it) but having it only show installed packages? |
| 20:50.07 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: the point is, it can also use patterns that match conditions such as "packages that are installed" |
| 20:50.10 | eeyore- | Phated: well, i used to use debian heavily ... |
| 20:50.18 | eeyore- | Phated: so i still remember stuff |
| 20:50.22 | george_ | Phated: that don't matter much... but I don't really see him being banned, op or not |
| 20:50.31 | peterS | Stevie[FP]: that's what DaBlade wants to do, use something like 'apt-cache search' but limited to packages that are installed |
| 20:50.34 | eeyore- | Phated: besides a lot of problems these days are not really debian-specific |
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| 20:51.00 | Phated | eeyore-: True. I don't remember having provided a single debian-specific solution in the (admittedly short) time since I've returned. |
| 20:51.02 | azeem | yeah, we gladly help out with Ubuntu issues as well |
| 20:51.06 | beardy | DaBlade: Would apropos do what you want? |
| 20:51.11 | CharminTheMoose | I'm running debian stable and I cannot seem to record audio with xvidcap,I get the error 'error:unable to open codec for output' does anyone know why? |
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| 20:51.12 | Stevie[FP] | AHA |
| 20:51.14 | Phated | azeem: Eeek. |
| 20:51.16 | george_ | azeem: hmm?? |
| 20:51.17 | DaBlade | beardy: I don't know |
| 20:51.23 | amphi | Phated: yeah, you vanished for quite some time |
| 20:51.24 | beardy | !flog azeem |
| 20:51.24 | azeem | I thought apropos searched through manpages |
| 20:51.25 | Stevie[FP] | hey, how do I make a correction on a dpkg entry? |
| 20:51.30 | DaBlade | beardy: What is it? |
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| 20:51.39 | Stevie[FP] | I need to add some information |
| 20:51.40 | azeem | Stevie[FP]: no, foo is <...> |
| 20:51.47 | beardy | DaBlade: Try it, 'apropos editor' |
| 20:51.50 | azeem | Stevie[FP]: dpkg: foo is also <...> |
| 20:51.57 | beardy | DaBlade: man apropos |
| 20:52.08 | Phated | Stevie[FP]: dpkg: foo =~ s/something/something else/ |
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| 20:52.23 | george_ | perly |
| 20:52.41 | beardy | DaBlade: It proposes programs, or actually, their manpages, for what you search for. |
| 20:52.43 | Phated | It's a blootbot, duh :) |
| 20:53.02 | cydork | hmm dpkg-query can be used for that.. if i am not drunk enough :P |
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| 20:53.10 | george_ | yes yes, modified infobot |
| 20:53.17 | DaBlade | beardy: Do their manpages say whether they're installed? :P |
| 20:53.58 | beardy | DaBlade: Yes. Only manpages of installed _programs_ are available, normally. |
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| 20:54.13 | DaBlade | beardy: But don't they remain if the programs are erased? |
| 20:54.19 | beardy | DaBlade: No. |
| 20:54.20 | peterS | DaBlade: hmmm. aptitude search '~i ~d stuff in description' |
| 20:54.22 | george_ | there might be a package with a whole collection of manpages |
| 20:54.23 | Sayers | Is there a list of all the apt-get's? |
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| 20:54.26 | Stevie[FP] | hey peters |
| 20:54.32 | peterS | DaBlade: ~i means installed packages, ~d means search in the description field |
| 20:54.36 | DaBlade | peterS: Thanks |
| 20:54.36 | george_ | Sayers: packages.debian.org |
| 20:54.37 | Stevie[FP] | !blacklist |
| 20:54.38 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. IMPORTANT: ask about blacklist-initramfs |
| 20:55.15 | Stevie[FP] | how's that? (the message was very long, so I put the 'ask about' instead of the full thing) |
| 20:55.46 | george_ | that looks good :) |
| 20:55.53 | Stevie[FP] | !blacklist-initramfs |
| 20:55.54 | george_ | very informative |
| 20:55.54 | dpkg | blacklist-initramfs is probably If your kernel uses an initramfs image (most recent ones do), you need to run update-initramfs in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 20:56.24 | asg | peterS: you hack your laundry? |
| 20:56.28 | peterS | asg: maybe |
| 20:56.38 | Digamma | Is there a meathod of defragmenting a windows partition from Linux/ |
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| 20:56.45 | Stevie[FP] | oh dear. I think I hosed my system by fixing my initramfs. |
| 20:56.53 | asg | peterS: remember, don't wash your Gumstix or you end up with a gooey mess |
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| 20:57.19 | Sayers | How do I check which Debian i am running on? |
| 20:57.26 | peterS | asg: right |
| 20:57.30 | cydork | !tell Sayers about version |
| 20:57.31 | peterS | Sayers: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:57.37 | george_ | Digamma: that would seem to be a dangerous operation... especially since microsoft is not in the habit of telling anyone about how their filesystems work... having said that, there are older ms filesystems that are better understood (like fat) |
| 20:57.56 | Digamma | I am using FAT windows ME |
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| 20:58.08 | roe_ | pickcoder: you still there? |
| 20:58.14 | Stevie[FP] | malaysian edition? ugh |
| 20:58.17 | wols | Digamma: freedos has a util for it I think. run it unedr qemu |
| 20:58.18 | cydork | eww, windows ME :P |
| 20:58.18 | Stevie[FP] | I didn't think anybody still used that |
| 20:58.24 | CharminTheMoose | moo |
| 20:58.26 | george_ | windows me?? wow :) crash imminent :) |
| 20:58.26 | asg | Stevie[FP]: Merkin Edition |
| 20:58.31 | peterS | supersize ME |
| 20:58.36 | Stevie[FP] | Malaysian Edition |
| 20:58.38 | CharminTheMoose | Stevie:I use win98SE |
| 20:58.40 | Stevie[FP] | keke lar kthx |
| 20:58.44 | Stevie[FP] | CharminTheMoose: That's acceptable |
| 20:58.46 | wols | Murks Edition |
| 20:58.58 | CharminTheMoose | i've just never updated... |
| 20:59.11 | Stevie[FP] | just don't update to ME |
| 20:59.19 | george_ | and possibly you'll never need to |
| 20:59.32 | wols | you can't. ME is EOLed |
| 20:59.35 | Digamma | I wish i never had winblows |
| 20:59.42 | Digamma | Terrible experience |
| 20:59.55 | wols | wie ME, not suprising |
| 20:59.57 | Stevie[FP] | Install KDE. You'll feel *almost* right at home. |
| 20:59.59 | Digamma | Yeah |
| 21:00.01 | Digamma | KDE |
| 21:00.03 | CharminTheMoose | sometimes when i boot up windows it crashes |
| 21:00.04 | beardy | Whine whine whine, just flush it out then. |
| 21:00.09 | CharminTheMoose | i kid you not |
| 21:00.11 | Stevie[FP] | If you really need to feel completely at home, install lart.ko |
| 21:00.13 | Digamma | omg; not KDE on this 650Mhz pice of crap |
| 21:00.14 | wols | I wish MS made more MEs. best ad for Linux EVA |
| 21:00.24 | Digamma | lol |
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| 21:00.34 | wols | Digamma: runs fine on 650. THe important part is the RAM |
| 21:00.42 | Digamma | yeah I forgot |
| 21:00.48 | george_ | CharminTheMoose: I believe you, believe me. quite probably your 98 has contracted several viruses |
| 21:00.50 | Digamma | Thats why I use IceWM |
| 21:00.58 | peterS | Windows ME was Microsoft's admission that Win2k was not ready for the desktop |
| 21:01.05 | peterS | rather a startling statement, really |
| 21:01.11 | wols | peterS: home desktop |
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| 21:01.28 | george_ | win2k is much more stable tho |
| 21:01.32 | Stevie[FP] | Win2k was more ready for the desktop than WinME |
| 21:01.33 | cydork | i never understood why they called *me* |
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| 21:01.39 | Digamma | yeah; really winME wasn't even that; it was just win98 with some more updated packages (wmp 7 i think) and IE5 |
| 21:01.44 | peterS | given how horrid ME was, one wonders which users Microsoft thought would prefer it over Win2k |
| 21:01.45 | george_ | Millenium Edition |
| 21:01.47 | Digamma | And more bugs of course |
| 21:01.51 | wols | i think one of the reasons vista took so long was the 64bit move. just like wintendo9x DOS to a proper kernel |
| 21:01.56 | george_ | More Errors |
| 21:02.03 | g333k | Do you know how can I do to load maximized every time that I open an app? |
| 21:02.07 | wols | Digamma: no. ME was wintendo without DOS |
| 21:02.19 | Digamma | I know |
| 21:02.20 | beardy | "proper" hah.. |
| 21:02.35 | Digamma | I tried to play with autoexec.bat but ended up frying my boot |
| 21:02.38 | wols | beardy: Cutler knows his stuff |
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| 21:02.43 | wols | MS sometimes does msart moves |
| 21:02.47 | Digamma | Just so I could boot DOS |
| 21:02.50 | wols | *smart |
| 21:02.57 | azeem | let's get back on topic |
| 21:03.13 | cydork | azeem, damn i had one good joke :P |
| 21:03.14 | wols | awww! let's bash ME a bit more :) |
| 21:03.18 | Digamma | No! |
| 21:03.20 | Digamma | Yeah! |
| 21:03.25 | george_ | remember... use #flood or /msg dpkg paster |
| 21:03.34 | Sayers | The instructions on how to install aim on linux aren't working |
| 21:03.36 | george_ | (obligatory on-topic comment) |
| 21:04.02 | george_ | Sayers: you have at least two choices... |
| 21:04.04 | Digamma | Trust me after 4 years of dealing with ME on this comp is worth more than 2 min in a chanel discussion |
| 21:04.13 | beardy | Not here. |
| 21:04.14 | wols | Sayers: aren't there a gazillion clients with AIM support |
| 21:04.16 | Sayers | What are my other choices |
| 21:04.17 | Digamma | kk |
| 21:04.19 | Digamma | I know |
| 21:04.21 | wols | who would use AIM by choice |
| 21:04.30 | Digamma | not me |
| 21:04.40 | odla | what's better than AIM? MSN? |
| 21:04.40 | george_ | oh, literally aim? |
| 21:04.41 | wols | gaim |
| 21:04.46 | cydork | Sayers, gaim |
| 21:04.49 | Digamma | gaim |
| 21:04.51 | wols | odla: aim the client |
| 21:04.51 | george_ | sorry, never mind... |
| 21:04.59 | odla | kopete too |
| 21:04.59 | george_ | made a mistake. |
| 21:05.03 | Stevie[FP] | don't hate the plaier, hate the gaim |
| 21:05.07 | Digamma | Amsn is not BAT |
| 21:05.08 | g333k | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.10 | Digamma | Bad* |
| 21:05.19 | cydork | g333k, rdesktop |
| 21:05.23 | wols | g333k: rdesktop |
| 21:05.27 | Digamma | g333k, rdesktop |
| 21:05.29 | Digamma | lol |
| 21:05.50 | g333k | wow, what a speed of response |
| 21:05.51 | george_ | you're in a maze of twisty answers, all alike |
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| 21:06.13 | Stevie[FP] | g33k: vncviewer ;-) |
| 21:06.30 | Sayers | is there an Apt get for gaim? |
| 21:06.46 | Sayers | I think so? |
| 21:06.51 | george_ | Sayers: gaim, yes |
| 21:07.00 | Digamma | g333k, try RXdesktop (I think) |
| 21:07.12 | Sayers | Okay then apt-get install gaim must be working |
| 21:07.19 | george_ | but not aim, it's proprietary and I'm not sure there is a linux version anyway |
| 21:07.40 | george_ | Sayers: should be, yes |
| 21:07.53 | g333k | This is my last resort: Does anyone use soundconverter? (it is to enconde mp3 files) |
| 21:08.14 | Sayers | Is there any real differnce between Gnome and KDE? |
| 21:08.16 | george_ | g333k: /msg dpkg anyone |
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| 21:08.28 | azeem | Sayers: yes, they are similar, but different |
| 21:08.28 | Digamma | If your a newb like me you can just use Synaptic to install packages iteslf |
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| 21:08.36 | g333k | george_, how is it? |
| 21:08.36 | george_ | try asking an -informative- question :)_ |
| 21:08.41 | azeem | synaptic is fine for everybody who likes it |
| 21:08.50 | Sayers | Well I'm fine with GNOME so no reason to switch? |
| 21:08.56 | azeem | g333k: just try it out yourself |
| 21:09.00 | azeem | Sayers: no |
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| 21:09.25 | george_ | Sayers: the reason would be, approximately: because you want to :) |
| 21:09.40 | george_ | if you don |
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| 21:09.51 | macly | kerberized ssh logins work fine to my KDC, but do not work when connecting to other machines on the network. kerberos works fine to those machines, they are using the same versions of kerberos libs and ssh-krb5(Debian-krb5 3.8.1p1-10) and the same config files |
| 21:09.52 | george_ | 't, you don't have to... you have -choices- |
| 21:10.31 | macly | the problem I'm having is that it looks like gssapi isn't initializing on the other systems (non kdc systems) |
| 21:10.43 | george_ | macly: watch kdc logs, watch logs on the other machines as you connect |
| 21:11.02 | macly | george_, I can do a pastebin of the differences in startup if you like |
| 21:11.21 | g333k | Ok.. I'll correct my question: I have installed soundconverter, and enabled the mp3 files support following the instructions on their web page, but I'm still not able to re-enconde mp3 files, any clue? |
| 21:11.45 | Karamon | During a debian net install is there a way to choose what kernel you what it to install? |
| 21:11.50 | george_ | that might be helpful... I'm not familiar with kerberos at this moment, except I do understand the basic principles |
| 21:12.01 | Sayers | What's a good C++, C, Java, all the basic langauges compiler |
| 21:12.03 | cydork | Karamon, which one? stable or testing? |
| 21:12.10 | george_ | but mainly, you want to watch the logs as you try to connect |
| 21:12.12 | beardy | Karamon: Read the help text, F1 to F4 or more. |
| 21:12.21 | Karamon | cydork: I'm fairly certain its stable |
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| 21:12.35 | cydork | beardy, still read what beardy said.. |
| 21:12.36 | Karamon | beardy: Thanks |
| 21:12.44 | george_ | Sayers: gcc, maybe javac for java, although gcj might be good too |
| 21:12.50 | macly | george_, I get this on the second computer: debug1: no credentials for GSSAPI mechanism Kerberos |
| 21:12.55 | beardy | Karamon: 'linux' and 'expert' gives you a 2.4 kernel, 'linux26' and 'expert26' gives you a 2.6 kernel. |
| 21:13.13 | Karamon | beardy: exactly what I was looking for, thankyou |
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| 21:13.38 | george_ | macly: hmm, so you need to find out why and how to deal with it (I'm not familiar with the details) |
| 21:13.52 | macly | george_, but on the kdc, I get this: debug1: GSSAPI mechanism Kerberos (gss-group1-sha1-toWM5Slw5Ew8Mqkay+al2g==) supported |
| 21:13.55 | beardy | Karamon: No problem. When you have installed, "/msg dpkg reference", or right now. |
| 21:14.12 | george_ | macly: on startup? or as you connect? |
| 21:14.19 | macly | george_, as I connect |
| 21:14.35 | george_ | ok, so you've located a reason to explore |
| 21:15.04 | george_ | (name that tune) explore that reason! :) |
| 21:15.25 | macly | none of the mailing lists I've perused have helped, so, I figured I'd look here for someone who's run into it before |
| 21:15.39 | Sayers | Well I think java would be best to get good at, since I have a slight grasp on C++ |
| 21:15.52 | george_ | find out why it's not supported... perhaps a lib isn't installed or something like that... perhaps you need more of kerberos on the nonkdc machine? |
| 21:16.14 | macly | well I'll give it a look see. thanks. in any case, class just ended and it's time to leave |
| 21:17.20 | cydork | Sayers, java sucks big time imo :P |
| 21:17.33 | george_ | Sayers: of course, you can explore anything you want to (given, again, you have choices)... and you don't have to have a specific goal in mind... exploration and learning are good activities in and of themselves... but I'm still curious: do you have any specific goals in the area of programming? |
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| 21:19.34 | Sayers | Well I've just been playing around with programming in my spare time, I like to make neat , yet handy tools ; Calculators for specific things most standard calcs. can't do. Etc, not really graphical stuff. |
| 21:20.01 | rambo3 | i need to download mysql and all dependecies .debs to a local folder for debian woody . how do i do this? |
| 21:20.15 | george_ | so, you're interested in doing things that also have graphic user interfaces? |
| 21:20.26 | george_ | or just learning about same? |
| 21:20.52 | george_ | rambo3: the packages will be in the pool dir of any mirror |
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| 21:21.33 | rambo3 | george_, i dont have debian woody . ubuntu user |
| 21:21.46 | george_ | if you really want to do that, you'll have to determine the deps in some manual way... one way: packages.debian.org |
| 21:21.48 | Sayers | Well I like C++ , not sure if linux can use it ho |
| 21:22.03 | Karamon | Question of curiosity, I know that xserver can be a terminal server, is there a port that will log into xserver and give you all the functionality in windose? |
| 21:22.06 | george_ | Sayers: in any shell... type: g++ |
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| 21:22.24 | george_ | Karamon: yes. |
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| 21:22.35 | Sayers | Shell? |
| 21:22.42 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:22.42 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 21:22.53 | Sayers | I forgot to say Over the past few days I got linux to work, and that's really it |
| 21:23.00 | george_ | oic... |
| 21:23.22 | george_ | it seems like you should do: apt-get install build-essential |
| 21:23.37 | george_ | as a bare minimum |
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| 21:24.08 | george_ | then install g++ and some version of libstdc++ and its -dev counterpart |
| 21:24.22 | beardy | Sayers: What he wanted to say was that if you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, and type 'g++' you see the c++ compiler. |
| 21:24.35 | beardy | !tell Sayers about reference |
| 21:24.41 | beardy | Sayers: Read it. |
| 21:24.57 | george_ | Sayers: is this your first ever experience with any linux? |
| 21:25.16 | george_ | or even any unix-alike? |
| 21:25.36 | Sayers | Yep |
| 21:25.38 | Sayers | it is |
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| 21:26.19 | george_ | ok, you will also need to get familiar with the bash shell. this is a command-line interpreter, like dos was |
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| 21:26.31 | george_ | much smarter, but otherwise alike |
| 21:26.42 | Sayers | It says there is no G++ input file |
| 21:26.46 | Mutiny | hello! Does anybody know of any Core 2 Duo motherboards that work well with Linux? I got an Intel 965RY board that I was trying to get working with the latest Debian Etch netinst disc but it was a total failure. Who has a Core 2 Duo motherboard that they've been able to get running successfully with Debian, without too much hastle? |
| 21:26.55 | george_ | so: you have a c++ compiler installed |
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| 21:28.12 | Mutiny | no, just x86-32 |
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| 21:29.03 | tarzeau | some people rape their debian with ubuntu popularity-contest packages: http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 21:29.24 | tarzeau | they should be subtracted |
| 21:29.38 | Trewas | george_: core 2 duos are 64bit |
| 21:29.45 | george_ | division is futile... you will be subtracted |
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| 21:30.31 | cydork | tarzeau, what about 1.hi.mom.LOL :P |
| 21:30.55 | tarzeau | cydork: hehe :) |
| 21:30.59 | tarzeau | cydork: that's the coolest one |
| 21:31.14 | cydork | tarzeau, that's you. isn't it :P |
| 21:31.24 | tarzeau | cydork: thanks, didn't know i'm so cool :) |
| 21:31.35 | cydork | hehe |
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| 21:32.32 | george_ | Trewas: but not all dual core are 64 bit? |
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| 21:33.11 | wols | !sarge 2.6.18 |
| 21:33.12 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.18 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2618.htm (See creator's warnings) |
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| 21:33.26 | wols | you need this to run a core2duo without hassles |
| 21:33.42 | george_ | ok |
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| 21:34.23 | phpnuborn | what command starts with pid?? ? |
| 21:34.23 | george_ | looks like dualcore is too much hassle for me at the moment... but I still have to think about upgrading sometime |
| 21:34.30 | phpnuborn | pidop ? |
| 21:34.38 | george_ | pidpooper? |
| 21:34.50 | beardy | phpnuborn: pidTABTAB, pidof, for one |
| 21:34.50 | george_ | pidpuppy? |
| 21:34.50 | Sayers | Can somone explain to me how to install java? |
| 21:35.08 | Trewas | george_: no, dual core has intrinsically nothing to do with 64bit... in practice all amd dual cores and new intels are 64bit, though |
| 21:35.09 | beardy | !java-package |
| 21:35.09 | dpkg | hmm... java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 21:35.20 | wols | george_: wait for 1Q07 |
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| 21:35.38 | george_ | wols: ok,,, what (approx :) happens then? |
| 21:35.49 | Sayers | Can you msg me that beardy |
| 21:35.54 | wols | E4300 comes out (and DX10 videocards) |
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| 21:36.10 | Phated | Sayers: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 21:36.56 | wols | george_: a 1.8GHz CPU with FSB200 which means with the usually ceiling of 3.6GHz on C2Ds, you can get up to a 100% OC easily and cheaply |
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| 21:37.16 | Mutiny | the problem wasn't the core2duo, it was the apparently unsupported ACPI and SATA controllers in the chipset. |
| 21:37.18 | quintin_ | what is the default location for smbusers on debian? |
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| 21:37.45 | wols | quintin_: default location? |
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| 21:37.53 | quintin_ | wols: yea. |
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| 21:38.05 | quintin_ | I think it is /etc/samba not /etc/ |
| 21:38.17 | zi99y | hello all |
| 21:38.19 | Sayers | This didn't work ----> apt-get install fakeroot java-package |
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| 21:38.32 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.43 | zi99y | can anyone help - I want to purge apache2 and reinstall from scratch, what is the command for this? |
| 21:38.47 | wols | what do oyu mean with "default locations for smbusers"? |
| 21:38.59 | wols | zi99y: man dpkg, man apt-get |
| 21:39.20 | zi99y | wols: I have done, and tried to dpkg -P but the /etc/apache2 config remains |
| 21:39.40 | wols | apache2 is more than one package |
| 21:39.53 | zi99y | ah |
| 21:40.02 | wols | dpkg -l |grep apache |
| 21:40.03 | dpkg | No packages found matching |grep apache |
| 21:40.12 | beardy | Sayers: You need to be root when installing packages, you become root with 'su', or you use 'sudo apt-get install package' |
| 21:40.43 | zi99y | wols: thanks, I see there are a bunch, I'll try purging them all, ty |
| 21:40.43 | Sayers | I'm in root |
| 21:40.50 | beardy | Sayers: If you use su, you run 'exit' or hit Ctrl-d when you are done with the installing. |
| 21:40.53 | azeem | 5/W 9 |
| 21:40.55 | azeem | blah |
| 21:41.28 | beardy | Sayers: Then you need to tell us exactly why it didn't work, what error do you get? Use a pastebin if it's more than one-two lines. |
| 21:41.31 | beardy | !pastebin |
| 21:41.32 | dpkg | i heard pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or if you want to upload an entire file, you can use http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 21:41.38 | Sayers | It can't find package java-package |
| 21:41.59 | azeem | Sayers: it's in contrib |
| 21:42.01 | azeem | !contrib |
| 21:42.01 | dpkg | well, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
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| 21:42.20 | Sayers | Huh? |
| 21:42.26 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 21:42.26 | Sayers | That makes no sence |
| 21:42.26 | dpkg | well, qotd148 is <Laney> alright lads. i set my root shell to /sbin/nolgin, but apparently that means i can't use "su -c" and sudo isn't installed. how can i change it back? :( |
| 21:42.30 | azeem | Sayers: why? |
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| 21:42.53 | Sayers | What does it want me to do |
| 21:42.53 | zi99y | folks, this is the most useful irc channel I've been to! :) |
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| 21:43.14 | azeem | Sayers: did you read the java-package factoid? Or the package description? |
| 21:43.16 | wols | zi99y: we usually strive for being the meanest. guess we have to work harder |
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| 21:43.39 | Sayers | Yeah sorta |
| 21:43.51 | zi99y | wols: don't worry I won't tell |
| 21:43.51 | Mutiny | Does anybody know of any Core 2 Duo motherboards that work well with Linux? I got an Intel 965RY board that I was trying to get working with the latest Debian Etch netinst disc but it was a total failure. Who has a Core 2 Duo motherboard that they've been able to get running successfully with Debian, without too much hastle? |
| 21:44.07 | wols | Mutiny: your questin was already answered |
| 21:44.08 | wols | besides: |
| 21:44.11 | wols | !repeat |
| 21:44.11 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:44.18 | Mutiny | no, it wasn't. |
| 21:44.23 | beardy | Sayers: Use an editor, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list, add contrib at the end of each line with an url on it |
| 21:44.39 | wols | Mutiny: it was. use a 2.6.18 kernel |
| 21:44.42 | Feax | when I go http://localhost/phpsysinfo, that send me a PHTML file, how can I solve this ? |
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| 21:45.00 | wols | Feax: it has to be a localhost/phpsysinfo.php |
| 21:45.13 | Sayers | Sounds like a lot of work? |
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| 21:45.30 | Feax | wols: no that don't work, an before I reinstalled debian that was /phpsysinfo |
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| 21:45.37 | th0ger | Im setting up readline key bindings in .inputrc. For example C-f and M-f works, and I can bind 'C-o: "\C-f"' okay. But 'C-o: "\M-f"' doesn't work. Something bad about the Meta+Esc keys... Where to configure this?? |
| 21:45.45 | Mutiny | the problem isn't with the CPU, it's with the motherboards chipsets. |
| 21:45.47 | beardy | Sayers: Not at all, first, make a backup copy in case you mess it up, 'cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old' |
| 21:45.54 | wols | Mutiny: we already know that |
| 21:45.57 | Mutiny | and i didn't ask "how do you get it to work" I asked "what is a motherboard that is known supported" |
| 21:46.10 | Mutiny | or is known to work |
| 21:46.17 | wols | !tell Mutiny about hcl |
| 21:46.23 | wols | but now it is answered. good day |
| 21:46.28 | beardy | Sayers: Then, 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' You see the lines which have "sarge" on them? |
| 21:46.32 | Sayers | so what's an example line |
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| 21:46.44 | Sayers | yep one has sarge |
| 21:47.00 | wols | Sayers: add contrib to your main repository line |
| 21:47.01 | Feax | wols: maybe it is my PHP library ? |
| 21:47.22 | wols | Feax: not it's your apache not knowing how to process php files |
| 21:47.30 | Mutiny | the Hardware-HOWTO doesn't have anything |
| 21:47.31 | Sayers | how do I edit it |
| 21:47.32 | wols | and your php that you installed should have set it |
| 21:47.37 | Feax | wols: how can I solve this ? |
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| 21:48.01 | wols | Feax: by adding the mime type to your apache2 config. or use packages that aren't broken |
| 21:48.02 | beardy | Sayers: move the cursor to the end of the line, add the word contrib at the end, then hit Ctrl-o to save, then Ctrl-x to quit. You might however want to add the word non-free to the end ot the line aswell, if you want to be able to install packages from non-free later. |
| 21:48.06 | Mutiny | anyways if you think that a bunch of useless urls that have nothing about the question being asked are the answer then you're a pin head. |
| 21:48.11 | wols | Sayers: nano |
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| 21:48.18 | wols | !customre |
| 21:48.20 | Sayers | But I can't edi ti |
| 21:48.21 | wols | !customer |
| 21:48.21 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 21:48.26 | Sayers | im not on root |
| 21:48.26 | beardy | multi_io: That does not help you get help. |
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| 21:48.29 | Feax | wols: and how can i add the mime type to my apache config ? :s |
| 21:48.39 | wols | Feax: editors are really cool programs |
| 21:48.40 | beardy | Sayers: Ctrl-x and su then. |
| 21:48.55 | wols | Feax: where did you get your apache and php from? |
| 21:49.01 | Sayers | well Su is only in a consel |
| 21:49.14 | Feax | wols: apt get |
| 21:49.21 | beardy | Sayers: Hmm? |
| 21:49.27 | wols | what repository? what debian branch? |
| 21:49.31 | wols | of course you used apt-get duh! |
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| 21:49.42 | Sayers | I can't become a root outside of a consel unless I login as root |
| 21:50.02 | beardy | Sayers: Yes, do as I say. |
| 21:50.03 | wols | Sayers: man su, man sux, man kdesu (is that right?) |
| 21:50.17 | wols | Sayers: and it'S "console", not "consel" |
| 21:50.22 | beardy | wols: man su and man sudo is enough. |
| 21:50.24 | Feax | wols: sarge |
| 21:50.33 | wols | Feax: what php version? |
| 21:50.38 | wols | and what apache? |
| 21:51.03 | zi99y | I've purged all but libapache2-mod-php5 apache2.2-common apache2-utils apache2-mpm-prefork and deleted /etc/apache2 but when I do apt-get install apache2 it doesn't install the config files in /etc/apache2 |
| 21:51.04 | wols | beardy: linux is about choices :) |
| 21:51.28 | wols | apache2-common? |
| 21:51.30 | beardy | wols: I just gave you the two realistic ones in his current case. |
| 21:51.32 | zi99y | it doesn't allow me to purge those packages because of dependecy |
| 21:51.35 | wols | oops. didn't see it |
| 21:51.49 | Feax | wols: apache and I don"t know if php is installed |
| 21:51.50 | wols | zi99y: man dpkg. you must purge them |
| 21:51.51 | Sayers | Okay |
| 21:52.15 | wols | Feax: then how do you think php is supposed to work? magic? |
| 21:52.32 | Feax | wols: which PHP version need I to install ?. |
| 21:52.32 | wols | zi99y: dpkg --force-help for a start |
| 21:52.38 | Sayers | Now what |
| 21:52.39 | wols | there is only one |
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| 21:52.55 | zi99y | wols: ace, ty. |
| 21:52.56 | wols | at least for your apache |
| 21:53.06 | ral1 | (general note) I feel bad that I never apt-get update or apt-get dist upgrade. But then, whenever I do, it seems to leave my system in an unusable state... (running debian on an ibook) |
| 21:53.08 | Feax | wols: php4, php3 ? |
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| 21:53.15 | wols | zi99y: you can't use apt untill you reinstalled apache 2.0 again |
| 21:53.34 | zi99y | wols: so I have to reinstall apache2 with dpkg, not apt? |
| 21:53.37 | george_ | ral1: stop feeling bad :) you don't have to do that!! |
| 21:54.00 | wols | zi99y: I would. and without any dependency checking. just start with -common and work your way up on the chain |
| 21:54.04 | zi99y | wols: that would mean I download the debs and install manually I guess |
| 21:54.06 | phpnuborn | are there two commands.. inetd xinetd ? whats the difference and does debian just use one or the other? |
| 21:54.12 | ral1 | george_: Thanks! I don't have to feel bad, or I don't have to apt-get dist upgrade. |
| 21:54.14 | wols | ral1: sarge? |
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| 21:54.37 | zi99y | wols: ok I will, thanks, I just upgraded from stable to testing and it went pear shaped :s |
| 21:54.39 | wols | phpnuborn: you can only se one of them. both do basically the same |
| 21:54.48 | Sayers | I still don't have permission to edi t it |
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| 21:55.07 | george_ | ral1: nono... you don't have to feel bad, !!AND!! you don't have to apt-get dist upgrade |
| 21:55.22 | ral1 | wols: Uhhh. I'm not sure, actually. Can I find out by reading my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:55.28 | wols | Sayers: what editor? |
| 21:55.29 | wols | ral1: yes |
| 21:55.38 | Sayers | Text Editor |
| 21:55.49 | wols | ral1: and dpkg -l libc6 and cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:55.53 | wols | Sayers: use nano in a xterm |
| 21:55.57 | Feax | wols: apache is installed with php4 and libapache-mod-php4 |
| 21:56.05 | wols | open an xterm, run su, then nano |
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| 21:56.54 | Sayers | How do I do that |
| 21:57.05 | wols | !tell Sayers about grounding |
| 21:57.15 | Feax | wols: apache is installed with php4 and libapache-mod-php4 |
| 21:57.18 | wols | if you can't even find programs to run, you're beyond help |
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| 21:57.47 | wols | Feax: I've seen it the first time. you AddType stuff is probably still missing, and I still think you should rename the file to .php |
| 21:59.02 | Sayers | Couldn't I just login as root, and add what to the end of the files |
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| 22:00.55 | wols | beardy: sometimes I can't believe how dense people are |
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| 22:01.39 | Sayers | I'd need to type Contrib and Non-free at the end of the stable main http one ? |
| 22:01.46 | wols | no |
| 22:01.49 | azeem | no? |
| 22:01.50 | wols | contrib non-free |
| 22:02.06 | wols | azeem: case doesn't matter? |
| 22:02.09 | beardy | Sayers: as wols said |
| 22:02.14 | azeem | it does |
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| 22:03.28 | Sayers | Okay thanks |
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| 22:04.39 | davidcsi | question: got two debians, i need the "client" to connect automatically with "server" and open a port so that i can ssh to it. by hand i would do it like: "ssh user@server -R 11000:127.0.0.1:22" |
| 22:05.00 | wols | write a startup script? |
| 22:05.38 | zi99y | wols: sorry bud but a small bother, I can't find apache2.2-common in testing, http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/ |
| 22:06.06 | davidcsi | thats fine, BUT. if it disconnects i can't connect again until i make the ssh connection again, so i wrote a bash script to check whether its connected or not and make the connection. BUT, because it is donde by the crontab I get "stdin: is not a tty" and drops the connection. |
| 22:06.07 | zi99y | I can go with apache2-common, but that won't satisfy my depends |
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| 22:06.39 | davidcsi | any ideas |
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| 22:09.47 | mike-digiport- | any idea where to find ntpl package to install zimbra |
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| 22:10.58 | wols | !tell mike-digiport- about search |
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| 22:11.21 | wols | zi99y: you're not supposed to install apache2.2 anyways. it's broken |
| 22:11.30 | wols | install 2.0 snaphosts.debian.org for example |
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| 22:11.52 | wols | zi99y: or rather various mod packages are broken now with it |
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| 22:12.14 | wols | what depends exactly on 2.2? |
| 22:12.47 | beardy | Apache you must mean? |
| 22:13.14 | wols | why not 2.0? |
| 22:13.40 | zi99y | wols: I think I understand, I used the backports for stable from dotdeb.org |
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| 22:13.53 | wols | zi99y: that's your problem. dotdeb sucks |
| 22:13.57 | zi99y | wols: so it's confused the server now I'm on testing |
| 22:14.01 | wols | if you must use backports: backports.org |
| 22:14.24 | zi99y | yeah well at the time I was desperate for php5 and didn't want to upgrade my ultra-stable server!! |
| 22:14.30 | wols | no. dotdeb is broken and it fucked up your testing upgrade probably |
| 22:14.47 | zi99y | my uptime was over 6 months without a boot |
| 22:14.55 | wols | so? |
| 22:15.04 | wols | all that means you might have an insecure kernel :P |
| 22:15.07 | davidcsi | question: got two debians, i need the "client" to connect automatically with "server" and open a port so that i can ssh to it. by hand i would do it like: "ssh user@server -R 11000:127.0.0.1:22" |
| 22:15.17 | eeyore- | davidcsi: shouldn't you be looking at openvpn? |
| 22:15.23 | zi99y | wols: why? |
| 22:15.25 | wols | davidcsi: I already told you. make a script, run it on startup |
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| 22:15.39 | zi99y | wols: I was pretty happy with it all that time |
| 22:15.41 | wols | zi99y: cause there were various kernel exploits in the past |
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| 22:16.10 | davidcsi | wols, i wrote a bash script and it is run by the crontab and get "stdin: is not a tty" error. |
| 22:16.16 | zi99y | wols: on stable? I thought that was the most solid platform |
| 22:16.41 | wols | even the kernel has security bugs once in a while |
| 22:16.47 | wols | there is a reason we're at 2.6.8-3 now |
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| 22:17.14 | zi99y | I guess so but I didn't think it was major, mostly hardware fixes - but what do I know ;) |
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| 22:17.17 | ehj20 | davidcsi: I used this page http://linuxgazette.net/issue72/chung.html to setup automatic login and to start balckbox window manager automatically. You might be able to use it to do what you want? |
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| 22:17.34 | wols | davidcsi: make a script for bootup. not cron |
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| 22:17.50 | davidcsi | wols, and if the connection goes down? |
| 22:17.58 | ak70 | hi, is anyone using nmh with debian sid here? |
| 22:18.00 | ehj20 | davidcsi: by adapting it, so rather than starting x, it sshs into your server |
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| 22:18.12 | ehj20 | (if i'm understanding you correctly?) |
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| 22:20.27 | ma3x | which language is linux written in? |
| 22:20.47 | faljse | c |
| 22:21.09 | ral1 | wols: I'm not sure how to parse the output from dpkg -l libc6, but cat /etc/debian_version says that I'm running testing/unstable, which is not what I intend. |
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| 22:22.01 | azeem | ral1: paste the output of dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 22:22.05 | wols | what version is your libc6? |
| 22:22.31 | wols | and: if you ever installed a single package directly from testing or unstable, then you basically run testing or unstable |
| 22:22.32 | wols | !bobbitt |
| 22:22.33 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 22:22.43 | zi99y | Ok, I've got a fresh apache2 installation, but I still have my original problem of not being able to connect to the webserver, the browser just sits there for ages before timeing out |
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| 22:22.56 | ral1 | !tell ral1 about grounding |
| 22:22.59 | zi99y | anyone have any ideas, or should I call it a night? |
| 22:22.59 | wols | is port 80 taken by the serve? |
| 22:23.06 | wols | !tell ral1 about msg the bot |
| 22:23.17 | zi99y | I have apache defaults, so port 80 - yes |
| 22:23.25 | wols | how do you KNOW? |
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| 22:23.27 | zi99y | I'm not using it for anything else afaik |
| 22:23.32 | zi99y | how can I tell? |
| 22:23.38 | wols | man netstat |
| 22:23.44 | wols | netstat -anp fr starters |
| 22:24.02 | Nazcafan | Hi, does anyone know where I could get the .deb for frozen bubble 2 ? I run testing and should dpkg them manually, but they're not available on the debian website |
| 22:24.27 | wols | Nazcafan: not in sarge? |
| 22:24.47 | Nazcafan | wols: frozen-bubble 2, not 0.1 |
| 22:24.58 | wols | heh |
| 22:25.06 | wols | !tell Nazcafan about simple sid backport |
| 22:25.08 | wols | maybe in sid |
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| 22:25.22 | wols | otherwise: check apt-get.org, backports.org, etc |
| 22:25.42 | zi99y | Nazcafan: as in nazca from gp32 dev fame? |
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| 22:26.32 | Nazcafan | zi99y: I don't know what you are talking about, I guess gp32 is a game ? |
| 22:26.44 | blondie | is there something in /proc or elsewhere that contains the disk space usage of mounted disks? :S |
| 22:26.52 | zi99y | no a handheld console that nazca used to write games for.... nm |
| 22:26.54 | dondelelcaro | blondie: /proc/partitions |
| 22:27.09 | dondelelcaro | well, not the usage; but the size... |
| 22:27.15 | blondie | I want the usage |
| 22:27.20 | wols | blondie: df? |
| 22:27.22 | blondie | where does df read from? |
| 22:27.26 | Nazcafan | wols: it is supposed to be in sid according to http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/frozen-bubble.html |
| 22:27.44 | blondie | I want to write a script to check disk usage but would rather not have to parse df's output |
| 22:27.44 | wols | Nazcafan: then try a sid backport or look at backports.org |
| 22:27.52 | wols | or wait for it to move into testing |
| 22:27.53 | Nazcafan | zi99y: who is Nazca ? |
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| 22:28.11 | wols | blondie: how would it help to parse proc output instead? |
| 22:28.17 | zi99y | Nazcafan: http://reviews.chemicalkungfu.de/index.php?game=15 |
| 22:28.28 | blondie | wols: it wouldn't involve running another program... just neater |
| 22:28.44 | azeem | df doesn't read /proc output |
| 22:28.49 | wols | I'd say df is far more stable than using proc |
| 22:28.57 | zi99y | Nazcafan: http://www.gp32spain.com/nazca/proj.html |
| 22:28.57 | wols | and it would work on more platfomrs |
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| 22:29.05 | wols | so imho df is a lot neater |
| 22:29.07 | blondie | I only care about linux |
| 22:29.09 | phpnuborn | when a i do a man <cmd> can i scroll back to a previous screen? |
| 22:29.16 | wols | phpnuborn: pgup |
| 22:29.19 | Nazcafan | zi99y: well, I didn't know him |
| 22:29.33 | Nazcafan | zi99y: I am more a fan of the anime and the place |
| 22:29.39 | blondie | I shall have to look at df's source and get confused by evil C code |
| 22:29.45 | zi99y | Nazcafan: ah i see |
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| 22:29.53 | ehj20 | davidcsi: http://pastebin.ca/234949 : This script uses a simple while loop to repeatedly attempt to ssh a server. |
| 22:29.53 | phpnuborn | wols, nope |
| 22:29.55 | azeem | blondie: df is part of coreutils |
| 22:29.59 | azeem | which are written in really nice C |
| 22:30.16 | wols | phpnuborn: then your keyboard translation is broken |
| 22:30.17 | wols | works fine here |
| 22:30.31 | Nazcafan | zi99y: couldn't I just get the sid .deb and install them manually ? |
| 22:30.32 | blondie | azeem: well I'll read the source and make my bf help me :) |
| 22:30.33 | phpnuborn | putty problem? |
| 22:30.33 | zi99y | wols: I have apache2 listening on port 80, and a couple of connections in CLOSE WAIT and ESTABLISHED |
| 22:30.39 | azeem | wols: it depends on the pager |
| 22:30.40 | wols | azeem: I have the suspicion _any_ C code is evil for blondie :) |
| 22:30.45 | azeem | phpnuborn: install less |
| 22:30.48 | Nazcafan | wols: couldn't I just get the sid .deb and install them manually ? |
| 22:30.51 | blondie | wols: not *any*, but most :P |
| 22:30.52 | wols | phpnuborn: then install less |
| 22:30.54 | Nazcafan | zi99y: sorry, wrong name |
| 22:31.01 | wols | !tell Nazcafan about bobitt |
| 22:31.04 | wols | !tell Nazcafan about bobbitt |
| 22:31.10 | zi99y | wols: don't worry mate, I see you have your hands full |
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| 22:31.34 | phpnuborn | oh.. less is like more ? a filter |
| 22:31.35 | wols | zi99y: yiz stukk gavebÄt abswered |
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| 22:31.45 | wols | grr |
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| 22:31.53 | wols | you still haven't answered |
| 22:31.56 | wols | time for bed... |
| 22:32.11 | Nazcafan | wols: even I check the bjorn script to see whether dependencies are met ? |
| 22:32.18 | zi99y | wols: answered? |
| 22:32.22 | Nazcafan | wols: *even if ? |
| 22:32.30 | wols | zi99y: if apache is bound to port 80 |
| 22:32.40 | zi99y | yes |
| 22:32.41 | wols | Nazcafan: if there are not dependeny probs: go ahead |
| 22:32.43 | zi99y | it's listening on 80 |
| 22:32.47 | zi99y | as per netstat |
| 22:32.56 | SerajewelKS | wols: hey |
| 22:32.59 | Nazcafan | wols: I just can't find the .deb's :'( |
| 22:33.10 | zi99y | and this stuff |
| 22:33.11 | wols | !tell Nazcafan about search |
| 22:33.11 | zi99y | tcp 401 0 192.168.1.10:80 192.168.1.14:36992 CLOSE_WAIT - |
| 22:33.11 | zi99y | tcp 404 0 192.168.1.10:80 192.168.1.14:36994 ESTABLISHED- |
| 22:33.11 | zi99y | tcp 222 0 192.168.1.10:80 72.30.226.227:50953 ESTABLISHED- |
| 22:33.11 | zi99y | tcp 193 0 192.168.1.10:80 74.6.74.207:41350 CLOSE_WAIT - |
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| 22:33.31 | SerajewelKS | wols: i do know that the box is faster, because the c# visualization studio i'm writing can do a lot more effects before the FPS lowers |
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| 22:33.57 | zi99y | sorry, paste frenzy.... |
| 22:34.01 | SerajewelKS | wols: but apps still seem the same speed |
| 22:34.23 | wols | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/frozen-bubble |
| 22:34.51 | SerajewelKS | i will say that FF starts faster though |
| 22:34.56 | wols | cause most app idle only and let the CPU waste 99% cycles |
| 22:34.57 | Nazcafan | wols: apt-search won't work since my sources.list is configured on testing, but anyway, I found the pool directory for frozen bubble, thanks anyway |
| 22:35.13 | wols | Nazcafan: cause most app idle only and let the CPU waste 99% cycles |
| 22:35.20 | wols | Nazcafan: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/frozen-bubble |
| 22:35.49 | Nazcafan | wols: this is the 1.0 version :( |
| 22:36.20 | Nazcafan | wols: I think the website packages.debian.org isn't up to date |
| 22:36.37 | azeem | it lacks behind by a day or two |
| 22:36.45 | Nazcafan | wols: anyway, it's there http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/frozen-bubble/ |
| 22:37.01 | Nazcafan | I'll just get the good files from the pool |
| 22:37.08 | zi99y | ok thanks for your help wols: I'm giving up now. |
| 22:37.09 | zi99y | night |
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| 22:41.49 | yonkeltron | on debian etch, why might pycentral not know about python2.5? |
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| 22:45.54 | stew | yonkeltron: what version of python-central do you have? |
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| 22:47.23 | yonkeltron | stew: 0.5.8 |
| 22:48.34 | stew | yonkeltron: maybe ask #debian-python on oftc |
| 22:49.04 | ral1 | george_: So how do I keep my packages current? |
| 22:49.09 | george_ | yonkeltron: plus check the pycentral package deps |
| 22:49.29 | yonkeltron | george_: ? |
| 22:49.37 | yonkeltron | stew: oftc? |
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| 22:49.50 | stew | yonkeltron: irc.debian.org / aka irc.oftc.net |
| 22:50.05 | george_ | ral1: iir your situation c, that is going to require you to mirror that (and that's wayyyy overkill) |
| 22:50.09 | yonkeltron | oh |
| 22:50.24 | george_ | unless you can mirror just those packages |
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| 22:50.53 | george_ | but personally I would just connect the machine in question to the net and do it directly |
| 22:51.05 | yonkeltron | george_: there doesn't seem to be a refernece to python2.5 in python-central. however, it does require >= python2.3 |
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| 22:51.40 | george_ | yonkeltron: so which python(s) currently installed? |
| 22:52.05 | ral1 | george_: did you write ral1 when you meant to be talking to yonkeltron up there? |
| 22:52.49 | george_ | ral1: didn't you want to get a set of packages in a dir on a machine that might not be connected? |
| 22:52.55 | yonkeltron | george_: according to apt-, python2.3 - 2.5. according to pycentral, 2.3,2.5 |
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| 22:53.27 | yonkeltron | george_: i just need to let pycentral know about python2.5 so it can make a package available to it |
| 22:53.38 | Sayers | Ehh |
| 22:53.46 | Sayers | How do I get information on java installing again? |
| 22:54.00 | Ronin | !tell Sayers about java |
| 22:54.10 | stew | Sayers: what version of debian are you running? |
| 22:54.19 | Sayers | 3.1 |
| 22:54.30 | yonkeltron | !tell Elleo about chin |
| 22:54.37 | stew | Sayers: do you need a non-free java or will a free one work? |
| 22:54.57 | george_ | Sayers: or does that matter right now? |
| 22:55.01 | Sayers | I don't honestly know the differnt |
| 22:55.11 | stew | Sayers: what are you using java for? |
| 22:55.14 | george_ | ok, so it might not matter |
| 22:55.17 | george_ | to learn it, iirc |
| 22:55.20 | Sayers | Currently just playing a game. |
| 22:55.25 | Sayers | Which needs java |
| 22:55.34 | Sayers | and infact java language is not so fun to me |
| 22:55.44 | stew | Sayers: in your browser? |
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| 22:56.09 | Sayers | No it's not a browser game, but i'd like to be able to run java things in my browser |
| 22:56.35 | stew | Sayers: then you need a non-free java, you can install sun's java from the non-free section of backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 22:56.35 | yonkeltron | george_: i already rtfm and now i'm trying to figure out what's up...any insight you have is greatly appreciated |
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| 22:57.41 | george_ | yonkeltron: I'm not specifically familiar with the details enough to help in a specific way... what I can do however is help you increase your awareness and troubleshooting skilld |
| 22:57.42 | george_ | s |
| 22:57.57 | ral1 | re: frozen bubble, does anybody know any cool games that have a fun, playful interface, but which explicitly involve concepts from number theory? E.g. modular arithmetic, quadratic reciprocity, frobenius inversion etc...? |
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| 22:58.37 | ral1 | george_: no not me. My question was how to keep my machine current in general, without doing the painful apt-get dist upgrade |
| 22:59.21 | stew | ral1: you can't |
| 22:59.30 | george_ | ral1: that is the way to keep it current |
| 22:59.51 | george_ | or use aptitude or synaptic (they may have better algorithms) |
| 22:59.54 | george_ | also |
| 22:59.55 | stew | ral1: though you should be careful about running dist-upgrade: /msg dpkg why not dist-upgrade |
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| 23:00.25 | Sayers | I don't get how I'm susposed to get this. |
| 23:00.28 | george_ | you can tell apt-get (and/or friends) to just download the packages |
| 23:00.35 | yonkeltron | george_: sure |
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| 23:00.43 | calestyo | hi. I've just had the problem,.. (kernel 2.6.18.1) that I've copied a some data (around 2 GB) with cp -a ,.. then I compared the whole stuff with diff and there were differences !! (some parts of the copy had some 0x0 bytes),... my logs did not show anything like harddisk or memory errors,... any idea what this could be? |
| 23:00.50 | george_ | Sayers: this is a different world... and a very large one |
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| 23:01.06 | Sayers | Huh? |
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| 23:01.32 | george_ | it's going to take time and effort to get used to |
| 23:02.10 | stew | Sayers: did you see the instructions on backports.org? |
| 23:02.24 | Sayers | Well I've got everything else I need to do done , and yes I do. But they make no sence to me |
| 23:02.45 | stew | Sayers: ask specific questions if something isn't making sense |
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| 23:03.16 | Sayers | Alright, I just went on root to type in Contrib and Non-free |
| 23:03.20 | Sayers | so why do I need to do this? |
| 23:03.35 | george_ | Sayers: it won't make sense at first... but if you keep attacking it, you'll eventually start seeing commonalities and other things will start revealing generalities |
| 23:03.44 | stew | Sayers: i don't know. what makes you think you should do that? |
| 23:04.07 | Sayers | I was told earlier |
| 23:04.23 | stew | Sayers: follow the instructions on backports.org |
| 23:04.35 | Sayers | Okay, but won't I have to go back on root? |
| 23:04.59 | stew | Sayers: "back on root"? do you mean "su" or something? then yes |
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| 23:05.08 | Sayers | Well su is simple |
| 23:05.32 | Sayers | but I have to edit a file, and I have no other Idea of how to edit it without completly logging out and logging into root |
| 23:05.37 | stew | Sayers: you want to skip #3 in the instrructions and just do the "Another way..." part at the end |
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| 23:05.57 | stew | Sayers: "editor /path/to/file" |
| 23:06.17 | george_ | Sayers: this is about permissions, and who owns files, and what is allowed or not allowed to be done to the files] |
| 23:06.33 | Stevie[FP] | everyone wish me luck |
| 23:06.40 | george_ | if you want you can explore that in more depth |
| 23:06.54 | Stevie[FP] | fine. i'll do it myself |
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| 23:06.56 | Stevie[FP] | !bless Stevie[FP] |
| 23:06.56 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child Stevie[FP], who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 23:07.11 | george_ | gluck! |
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| 23:07.30 | robin_sz | hi, can you help me install gNewSense? |
| 23:07.43 | george_ | what's that |
| 23:07.57 | george_ | (and, maybe.) |
| 23:08.42 | george_ | one thing that is required is to say what you've done so far and how/why are you stuck now |
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| 23:09.07 | robin_sz | sorry, my apologies ... |
| 23:09.34 | george_ | not a problem :) just tell us what's up :) |
| 23:09.38 | robin_sz | I was having a joke about yet another distro based on debian .. sigh |
| 23:09.50 | robin_sz | I thought I would beat the crowds |
| 23:09.52 | robin_sz | :) |
| 23:10.14 | azeem | beat the Krauts |
| 23:10.35 | robin_sz | its the new FSF thing ... based on debian but with all the non-free bits removed |
| 23:10.52 | azeem | robin_sz: hrm? |
| 23:10.57 | robin_sz | for non-free read "richard stallmans version of non free" |
| 23:11.07 | azeem | robin_sz: what are you talking about? |
| 23:11.11 | george_ | robin_sz: ahh, maybe John Gorzen (sp?) is involved? |
| 23:11.24 | azeem | Goerzen |
| 23:11.29 | robin_sz | mmm ... could be |
| 23:12.13 | robin_sz | http://www.fsf.org/news/gnewsense |
| 23:12.16 | stew | i'm assuming they'll add some non-free stuff back in as well, since debian thiks that some stuff RMS thinks is free is non-free |
| 23:12.23 | robin_sz | exactly |
| 23:12.39 | stew | for instance, the emacs manual and the gcc manual |
| 23:12.42 | george_ | stew: such as docs under gfdl |
| 23:12.45 | robin_sz | somehow, I fear that like we get the hoards of Ubuntu people trolling along |
| 23:12.53 | azeem | right, it's actually Ubuntu-based |
| 23:12.56 | azeem | I heard about that before |
| 23:13.05 | azeem | Ubuntu ships gfdl stuff anyway |
| 23:13.06 | robin_sz | well soo be getting that lot too |
| 23:13.11 | george_ | merilee we troll along troll along troll along? |
| 23:13.25 | robin_sz | roughly that. yes. |
| 23:13.57 | robin_sz | what I dont get is ... Ubuntu is debian with blobs, they take the blobs off and ... |
| 23:13.58 | george_ | azeem: they must disagree with debian-legal on that pt |
| 23:14.08 | odla | if someone wants a free debian why not just use packages from main and contrib? |
| 23:14.12 | odla | no need for a new distro |
| 23:14.17 | robin_sz | quite |
| 23:14.19 | george_ | or just main |
| 23:14.30 | robin_sz | another useless fork .. with an intended audience of one |
| 23:14.31 | robin_sz | RMS |
| 23:14.38 | odla | !vrms |
| 23:14.38 | dpkg | methinks vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky non-free software... apt-get install vrms |
| 23:14.38 | abrotman | odla: because the docs for some stuff in main is non-free |
| 23:14.45 | odla | abrotman: really? |
| 23:14.49 | azeem | odla: the FSF has repeatedly stated that they consider the presence of the non-free section on ftp.debian.org unaccaptebla |
| 23:14.51 | abrotman | yes .. really |
| 23:14.59 | odla | oh |
| 23:14.59 | abrotman | well .. besides that :) |
| 23:15.04 | robin_sz | coo. |
| 23:15.17 | robin_sz | no nVidia driver for them then! |
| 23:15.18 | azeem | heh |
| 23:15.20 | azeem | "emacs, bsdgames, nethack and build-essential part of the default install" |
| 23:15.49 | robin_sz | bsdgames? sounds fun! |
| 23:15.57 | odla | like nibbles? |
| 23:16.02 | odla | and connect four? |
| 23:16.04 | robin_sz | ahh. |
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| 23:16.15 | george_ | azeem: of course ever since the split so long ago, they don't have binding control over that |
| 23:16.19 | robin_sz | not bsd as in leather and chians then? |
| 23:16.36 | eldowan | not bsdm, no. :D |
| 23:16.44 | odla | bsdm? |
| 23:16.46 | robin_sz | damn. |
| 23:16.57 | eldowan | olda: search for it online... |
| 23:17.01 | robin_sz | bondage, submission and domination |
| 23:17.06 | odla | eldowan: don't know if i want |
| 23:17.09 | odla | to |
| 23:17.21 | eldowan | olda: yeah, I didn't feel like explaining it. |
| 23:17.22 | robin_sz | well, you are probably sub then |
| 23:17.46 | robin_sz | ah well, |
| 23:17.58 | eldowan | isn't ubuntu's proprietary distribution management tool apt? |
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| 23:18.31 | robin_sz | uh huh |
| 23:18.50 | eldowan | robin_sz: is that uh huh yes, or uh huh no? |
| 23:18.57 | robin_sz | yes |
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| 23:19.25 | eldowan | I thought apt was open, not proprietary... |
| 23:20.14 | pickcoder | well if its based on Debian it had better be open |
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| 23:21.03 | eldowan | It just struck me as odd that they would classify apt as proprietary and in need of being disgarded... |
| 23:21.04 | azeem | eldowan: what are you talking about? |
| 23:21.04 | azeem | this is off-topic here |
| 23:21.39 | eldowan | azeem: Yes, it is off topic. oops. I was talking about this: [17:12] <robin_sz> http://www.fsf.org/news/gnewsense |
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| 23:22.28 | azeem | eldowan: distribution management, not package management |
| 23:22.29 | admin123 | mkCDrec makes a bootable (El Torito) disaster recovery image (CDrec.iso), including backups of the linux system to the same CD-ROM (or CD-RW) if space permits, or to a multi-volume CD-ROM set. Otherwise, the backups can be stored on another local disk, NFS disk or (remote) tape. HOWEVER mkcdrec doesn't work what options do I have left? |
| 23:22.34 | azeem | they're talking about www.launchpad.net |
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| 23:23.09 | eldowan | azeem: Ahhh. Thanks for the clarification. I've not used ubuntu, so assumations are killer I guess. |
| 23:23.40 | eldowan | admin123: partimage? |
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| 23:24.54 | admin123 | eldowan, partimage seems dificul, is there some guide for me? |
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| 23:26.33 | eldowan | admin123: It shouldn't bee too dificult. I imagine that there is a partimage HOWTO online somewhere. You could try tldp.org I think. |
| 23:27.01 | admin123 | eldowan, so completly automatic restore? |
| 23:27.29 | eldowan | admin123: automatic? I think you would have to boot the client, and select the image to restore. |
| 23:28.18 | admin123 | I want to store it on dvd, reboot the pc, put dvd in client pc, and then after it has booted the restore process should start. |
| 23:28.23 | eldowan | admin123: for a partimage guide, go to google and search for "partimage guide" the first hit seems to be a guide on how to do backup / restore. |
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| 23:28.51 | Sayers | Once I'm done typing in the editor how do I close it? |
| 23:28.51 | eldowan | admin123: I'm not sure about all of that. |
| 23:29.18 | eeyore- | get a USB hard drive :-) |
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| 23:29.32 | eeyore- | (path of least resistance) |
| 23:29.46 | eldowan | Sayers: It would suretly depend on what editor you use. |
| 23:30.01 | Sayers | it was the /editor in the Consel |
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| 23:32.16 | azeem | Sayers: it still depends on which |
| 23:32.20 | azeem | there's quite a lot |
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| 23:32.37 | Sayers | The GNOME one |
| 23:32.57 | azeem | on the console? |
| 23:33.05 | Sayers | In the gnome 'terminal' |
| 23:33.10 | azeem | then I assume File->Quit? |
| 23:33.34 | Sayers | it didn't save |
| 23:33.45 | azeem | then File->Save first? |
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| 23:36.36 | Sayers | That didn't work |
| 23:36.43 | Sayers | There is no FIle-> Save |
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| 23:37.48 | Nazcafan | frozen bubble rocks !! |
| 23:37.57 | eeyore- | Nazcafan: ain't it? :-> |
| 23:37.59 | odla | Nazcafan: not if you suck at it |
| 23:38.16 | Nazcafan | have you tried the network games |
| 23:38.17 | Nazcafan | ?? |
| 23:38.28 | Nazcafan | they're cool |
| 23:38.31 | odla | Nazcafan: it's hard |
| 23:38.40 | odla | Nazcafan: it's a lot of fun though :) |
| 23:39.04 | Nazcafan | frozen bubble must be something like pachinko |
| 23:39.08 | Nazcafan | very hypnotic |
| 23:39.17 | Nazcafan | You don't need to think so much |
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| 23:40.33 | tarzeau | does someone create glass masters and press cds here, cheap? |
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| 23:42.30 | eeyore- | tarzeau: try someone from asia :-) they're fairly popular with the pirate crowd |
| 23:42.42 | Sayers | Okay this isn't working |
| 23:43.01 | eeyore- | tarzeau: not saying you're pirating. just saying those cheap dvd's? they're all professionally pressed ... |
| 23:43.12 | tarzeau | eeyore-: any contacts? |
| 23:43.20 | odla | tarzeau: lol |
| 23:43.20 | tarzeau | eeyore-: i want to press my own cd |
| 23:43.21 | Sayers | Heh |
| 23:43.32 | tarzeau | eeyore-: and it's completely free software |
| 23:43.57 | eeyore- | tarzeau: why not just provide ISOs? |
| 23:44.17 | tarzeau | eeyore-: i do |
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| 23:46.58 | Sayers | So does anyone know how to save this? |
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| 23:49.43 | azeem | Sayers: consult the documentation of your editor |
| 23:50.13 | eeyore- | Sayers: dude. all you gotta do is tell us which editor you are running :-) vi, emacs, nano, or something else |
| 23:50.14 | Sayers | It's not an editor |
| 23:50.24 | Sayers | It's in the Consel |
| 23:50.26 | eeyore- | Sayers: what is it, then? |
| 23:50.33 | eeyore- | Sayers: what the heck is "Consel"? |
| 23:50.34 | Sayers | editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:50.39 | Sayers | Or terminal |
| 23:50.40 | azeem | Sayers: so it's an editor |
| 23:50.42 | Sayers | or however |
| 23:50.56 | Sayers | Command Line? Does any of that ring a bell |
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| 23:51.04 | Sayers | Where you type Apt-get install blah |
| 23:51.10 | pickcoder | so you typed "editor /etc/apt/sources.list" |
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| 23:51.14 | Sayers | Yes |
| 23:51.20 | eeyore- | Sayers: of course. we're not dense :-) you are. (pardon me). ok, now that i got that out of my system, what's the big problem? |
| 23:51.21 | pickcoder | then the editor is "editor" |
| 23:51.23 | Sayers | and then pressed S to insert |
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| 23:51.37 | Thanatermesis | any reason of why dpkg-reconfigure wodim don't permits to set it on SUID how cdrecord before ? |
| 23:51.40 | Sayers | and pasted what the site told me to do |
| 23:51.40 | azeem | Sayers: try hitting escape, then type ":wq" |
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| 23:51.48 | eeyore- | Sayers: so it's vi. press <esc> twice. then press :wq<enter> |
| 23:52.16 | Sayers | Okay |
| 23:52.19 | SerajewelKS | wols: there? |
| 23:52.20 | Sayers | That saved it? |
| 23:52.27 | Sayers | Nope. |
| 23:52.33 | pickcoder | it's probably nano |
| 23:52.38 | Sayers | it didn't do anything accutely |
| 23:52.38 | azeem | Sayers: dude, tell us the error message |
| 23:52.45 | Sayers | There was no error. |
| 23:52.51 | eeyore- | i'm out of this "help" :-) |
| 23:52.58 | Fy_Hertz | can someone help me i have trouble to use samba with debian |
| 23:53.00 | pickcoder | Sayers: ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor |
| 23:53.08 | SerajewelKS | !tell Fy_Hertz about ask |
| 23:53.17 | eeyore- | Fy_Hertz: what's wrong with samba + debian? |
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| 23:53.30 | Sayers | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2006-10-20 16:28 /etc/alternatives/editor -> /usr/bin/vim |
| 23:53.36 | pickcoder | ok.. it's vim |
| 23:53.41 | azeem | Sayers: then you did it wrong |
| 23:53.44 | azeem | 00:42 < eeyore-> Sayers: so it's vi. press <esc> twice. then press :wq<enter> |
| 23:53.49 | Fy_Hertz | i have a pc with xp and another with debian |
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| 23:53.58 | SerajewelKS | wols: well if you get in, changing the CAS latency to 2.5 killed the system. i had to reset the CMOS. |
| 23:54.08 | Sayers | type Wq? Or is that a fancy key I don't know about |
| 23:54.10 | pickcoder | SerajewelKS: heh |
| 23:54.14 | azeem | Sayers: dude |
| 23:54.16 | Fy_Hertz | and i cant share any file |
| 23:54.17 | azeem | ":wq" |
| 23:54.22 | azeem | not a capital W |
| 23:54.27 | eeyore- | Sayers: press :, then press w, then press q, then press the fat enter key |
| 23:54.32 | azeem | Sayers: case matters in GNU/Linux, always. |
| 23:54.34 | SerajewelKS | wols: i did change the timing from "optimal" to "aggressive" and that boots, but "turbo" (which uses 2.5) isn't an option i guess |
| 23:54.56 | eeyore- | Sayers: even better .... step away from the keyboard, and pop the Windows XP cd back in ... take a deep breath, reboot and press space bar to boot from the cdrom |
| 23:54.56 | Sayers | Okay I did all that |
| 23:55.08 | SerajewelKS | wols: the system didn't boot at all after the reset but that's because i accidentally pulled the sata cable out without noticing =) |
| 23:55.11 | Sayers | Haha, I harddrvie boot :D |
| 23:55.13 | eeyore- | Sayers: because, if you stay in linux, it's going to get bumpier and bumpier from here on out |
| 23:55.36 | Sayers | I've seen a lot more complicated, I'm just getting confused on somthing simple. |
| 23:55.54 | azeem | Sayers: read a book about GNU/Linux first, then |
| 23:56.11 | pickcoder | Sayers: did :wq show any messages at the bottom of the screen? |
| 23:56.17 | eeyore- | Fy_Hertz: explain what you've done to allow you to share files (i know, you said you can't, so what have you done?) |
| 23:56.18 | Sayers | No it did not |
| 23:56.34 | azeem | Sayers: did you hit esc before? |
| 23:56.40 | Sayers | Yes |
| 23:56.41 | Sayers | Twice |
| 23:56.55 | Sayers | Twice Esc, then w then q then enter |
| 23:56.59 | Fy_Hertz | until now i have tried to configure my smb.conf file |
| 23:57.00 | azeem | wtf |
| 23:57.02 | eeyore- | Sayers: you forgot ":" |
| 23:57.04 | SerajewelKS | Sayers: you need the : too |
| 23:57.07 | azeem | Sayers: please read what we write |
| 23:57.15 | Fy_Hertz | maybe i should show yu |
| 23:57.29 | SerajewelKS | Fy_Hertz: http://pastebin.ca |
| 23:57.29 | eeyore- | Fy_Hertz: yeah, that'd be good :-) |
| 23:57.32 | azeem | Sayers: this is not "I'll roughly interpret what they type and add a bit here or leave out there" business, OK? |
| 23:57.33 | Sayers | Looked like a continuence to me |
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| 23:57.43 | azeem | 00:45 < eeyore-> Sayers: press :, then press w, then press q, then press the fat enter key |
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| 23:58.01 | SerajewelKS | azeem: beat me to the paste =) |
| 23:58.06 | azeem | Sayers: you probably won't get anymore help in here if you don't follow the advise you're given |
| 23:58.27 | gouki | Guys, anyone has a black dog USB dongle? |
| 23:58.33 | Fy_Hertz | anyway my pc cant acces to the folder i tried to share: it tell me i do not have the rights |
| 23:58.39 | Sayers | Ahh there we go it said "Use ! to write to Partial Buffer" |
| 23:58.47 | SerajewelKS | gouki: are you taking a poll or do you have a question? |
| 23:58.59 | Faithful | Why is Exim the preferred MTA... is the a statement about it? |
| 23:59.05 | gouki | I have a question ... Sorry! | SerajewelKS |
| 23:59.09 | eeyore- | Fy_Hertz: oooohhhhh kay ... how is the windows pc connected to samba server? as anonymous? as named user? how? |
| 23:59.17 | SerajewelKS | !tell gouki about ask |
| 23:59.21 | eeyore- | Fy_Hertz: on samba server side, type in "smbstatus", read the output |
| 23:59.35 | Sayers | Ahh tried it again and I believe it worked. |
| 23:59.59 | eeyore- | Faithful: exim isn't *my* preferred MTA. not by a long shot. |
