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| 00:01.53 | kingsley_ | Is anyone here using beryl? If so, which instructions did you follow to install it? |
| 00:01.59 | itchi | aFlag: See /msg dpkg nm |
| 00:02.30 | itchi | nrdb: /usr/share/fonts/ |
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| 00:02.55 | SmilingJoker | dpkg, no public key |
| 00:02.55 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. |
| 00:02.56 | bucky | aFlag, in most cases you can create a backport http://edseek.com/~jasonb/articles/pbuilder_backports/backportprocess.html |
| 00:03.02 | itchi | nrdb: But you can add any path too, see the xorg config |
| 00:03.06 | SmilingJoker | dpkg, etch key |
| 00:03.06 | dpkg | # apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
| 00:03.19 | itchi | nrdb: also put one in ~/.fonts |
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| 00:06.26 | nrdb | itchi: I am having some trouble with vnc4server, I think the problem steems from it looking in /usr/share/fonts/X11/ for several font directories (misc,Speedo,Type1,CID.75dpi.100dpi) none of which exists, which package should I install to get these fonts ? Do you know what going on? |
| 00:06.49 | anapivirtua | Nighty. |
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| 00:15.38 | aFlag | thanks bucky |
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| 00:18.29 | k31th | Is there any tools for debian to make sure my box is secured?? in gentoo i would use glsa-conf |
| 00:19.34 | aFlag | what do you mean by secured? |
| 00:19.43 | budgester | pull the power |
| 00:20.28 | wireddd | ifdown eth0 |
| 00:20.39 | wireddd | secured! |
| 00:20.49 | onetinsoldier | k31th: do you have a firewall installed and running? |
| 00:21.26 | budgester | try nmap localhost and see what services you have running, then disable the ones you don't need |
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| 00:22.41 | concept10 | Anyone ever use the program Eagle (schematic editor) it looks like it uses wine or something, Im trying to change the font size (tooo small) |
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| 00:26.26 | k31th | onetinsoldier: budgester not what i ment guys, |
| 00:26.30 | k31th | sorry if i was unclear |
| 00:27.04 | k31th | What i ment was is there any thing that will look for outdated versions of software that have known exploits ? |
| 00:27.13 | k31th | or do i just keep updated with apt.... |
| 00:27.14 | k31th | ?? |
| 00:27.22 | onetinsoldier | k31th: just keep updated with apt |
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| 00:29.18 | onetinsoldier | k31th: and you'll probably want to make sure you have the 'security' repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:29.35 | budgester | onetinsoldier: beat me to that one |
| 00:29.39 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 00:29.45 | wireddd | how can I make nfs only listen on one interface? |
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| 00:30.21 | onetinsoldier | !dpkg prize onetinsoldier |
| 00:30.40 | onetinsoldier | hmmm, guess i don't remember how to do that one |
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| 00:31.16 | H3g3m0n | !prize onetinsoldier |
| 00:31.24 | onetinsoldier | ahhh, thanks :) |
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| 00:38.36 | stoned | hi |
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| 00:46.27 | onetinsoldier | hello there |
| 00:47.02 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:47.02 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 00:48.15 | simonrvn | !abrotman |
| 00:48.15 | dpkg | i heard abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 00:48.20 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 00:48.53 | simonrvn | afk |
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| 00:53.13 | shadowarts | the e100 module should come up on a sarge install after reboot just fine right? |
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| 00:54.30 | abrotman | *should* |
| 00:57.48 | odla | god Shuttleworth is such a goon |
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| 00:58.03 | zinx | odla: he is rich |
| 00:58.21 | odla | does that mean he needs to be a prick? |
| 00:58.21 | stoned | whats going on with etch |
| 00:58.30 | stoned | prick? |
| 00:58.38 | odla | a dick? |
| 00:58.42 | stoned | there is never a good reason to be either |
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| 00:58.53 | abrotman | stoned: procreation ... |
| 00:59.00 | stoned | abrotman, shut up |
| 00:59.05 | ekkikrist | wall to wall dick carpeting |
| 00:59.09 | stoned | abrotman, I mean.. umm |
| 00:59.11 | stoned | hi |
| 00:59.12 | zinx | odla: it means he at least was a prick at one point |
| 00:59.26 | stoned | abrotman, you can't be a dick to your woman and still get laid |
| 00:59.33 | riot | gnf. I'm using a self-built kernel. Since the last update it doesn't boot. Claims version-magic mismatch (difference is "gcc-4.1" should be "gcc-4.0") what can i do? Only root gets mounted, (usr and stuff are on different partitions) |
| 00:59.36 | stoned | abrotman, so no. Never a good reason to be a dick to people |
| 00:59.46 | abrotman | stoned: uhm .. you can't procreate without it |
| 00:59.56 | stoned | abrotman, thats not what we're talking about |
| 01:00.00 | CHodapp | women sleep with plenty of guys who are dicks, and then complain that guys are dicks. |
| 01:00.15 | CHodapp | actually, men do the same. |
| 01:00.30 | oOGneaOo | that's because people want life to be the way that it is presented on TV |
| 01:00.41 | stoned | CHodapp, I agree |
| 01:00.41 | simonrvn | because some women are attracted to the "bad boy", for feeling adventurous and such, but it never actually pans out. |
| 01:01.00 | simonrvn | yes, it's very much a cultural thing |
| 01:01.03 | stoned | I like a nice easy going submissive girl |
| 01:01.13 | onetinsoldier | riot: how about recompiling it? |
| 01:01.18 | riot | i can mount the other ext3-partitions as ext2. But most of the modules won't load anymore |
| 01:01.25 | stoned | and I've got one, so I'm good to go |
| 01:01.35 | simonrvn | i like my GFs (and my current wife ;) to be strong willed, independent, intelligent, and hot =) |
| 01:01.51 | riot | onetinsoldier: why? it worked fine. |
| 01:02.19 | stoned | simonrvn, my girls in med school, digs deathmetal/skateboarding/videogames/clubs/computers/drugs, and still shes is a "A" student |
| 01:02.45 | stoned | we're like 99% in common stuff |
| 01:02.45 | simonrvn | sounds hot |
| 01:02.45 | stoned | excuse my grammar |
| 01:02.45 | simonrvn | nice to hear |
| 01:02.45 | onetinsoldier | riot: yeah.. but apparently it's not now that gcc-4.1 is around. so recompile it and it will be complied with gcc-4.1 |
| 01:02.52 | simonrvn | gtg, bbl |
| 01:02.52 | stoned | simonrvn, indeed, been with her 19 years man |
| 01:02.57 | stoned | t ake it easy |
| 01:02.58 | simonrvn | wow, nice |
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| 01:03.09 | simonrvn | 13 years, for us |
| 01:03.10 | riot | why the f*ck did gcc 4.0 vanish?! HNF |
| 01:03.26 | stoned | simonrvn, cultural, we got engaged when we were kids |
| 01:03.34 | abrotman | stoned: you're 25 |
| 01:03.35 | riot | and no warning about that on last update. FINE.. |
| 01:03.42 | stoned | yup |
| 01:03.52 | simonrvn | indeed. that's cool you have things in common then ;) |
| 01:04.05 | stoned | it wasn't arranged, I told my parents I want here |
| 01:04.07 | stoned | her* |
| 01:04.16 | simonrvn | oh cool |
| 01:04.22 | stoned | we've always been best friends and doing stuff together |
| 01:04.24 | stoned | always |
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| 01:04.31 | stoned | its great man |
| 01:04.37 | simonrvn | :) |
| 01:04.40 | simonrvn | afk |
| 01:04.42 | stoned | I'm the happiest man on this planet, will be happier when etch releases |
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| 01:05.18 | riot | i hate kernel-recompiling! Involves thousands of DUMB modules. Dumb nvidia closed source! Lots of unnecessary work. :( |
| 01:05.52 | simonrvn | oh, add nice to that list ;) |
| 01:05.55 | oOGneaOo | wuss. |
| 01:05.57 | onetinsoldier | riot: do you user 'kernel-package'? |
| 01:06.02 | onetinsoldier | riot: do you use 'kernel-package'? |
| 01:06.09 | riot | yes. |
| 01:06.32 | onetinsoldier | riot: ok... |
| 01:07.11 | riot | why didn't it _WARN_ me before the update?! It warns about EVERY dipshit. |
| 01:07.11 | onetinsoldier | if you still have the .config for it and use kernel-package(make-kpkg) i wouldn't think it would be al that hard |
| 01:07.19 | oOGneaOo | riot: yes, wouldn't it be nice if the world revolved around you and you only? |
| 01:07.37 | riot | no. its not hard, but its a stupid long-taking (right now unnecessary) task |
| 01:07.42 | odla | oOGneaOo: why are you trolling and trying to get him worked up? |
| 01:07.58 | riot | oOGneaOo: yeah. I'd throw YOU out first. |
| 01:08.06 | stoned | Gnea is a troll |
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| 01:08.12 | stoned | troll alert |
| 01:08.15 | riot | his nick already tells that. |
| 01:08.22 | stoned | no hes not |
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| 01:08.27 | stoned | i'm just pullin his leg |
| 01:08.28 | oOGneaOo | odla: pardon me? i'm not trolling, just trying to figure out why he has to act like a dipshit |
| 01:08.36 | riot | !nickometer oOGneaOo |
| 01:08.38 | dpkg | 'oOGneaOo' is 27.000% lame, riot |
| 01:08.41 | abrotman | riot: it did tell you it was being updated .. you apparently weren't paying attention |
| 01:09.10 | oOGneaOo | riot: okay look, go ahead and vent, but do not retaliate. |
| 01:09.14 | riot | abrotman: hmm. Possible. But it wasn't asking me to stop, like it does when e.g. initrd.img is missing. |
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| 01:09.22 | abrotman | riot: this is etch ? |
| 01:09.47 | abrotman | riot: because you're using your own kernel .. that's your problem .. you thought you knew better .. and apparently you don't |
| 01:09.52 | riot | abrotman: sid. Please don't tell me to not use sid... i develop software.. ..not for stable systems. |
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| 01:10.14 | riot | abrotman: aaw. c'mon, 90% of my system won't work correctly with stock-kernels. Realtime patches? Nada! |
| 01:10.14 | oOGneaOo | dude, i use sid, and i don't go crying about shit not working |
| 01:10.14 | abrotman | riot: grep gcc /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 01:10.42 | abrotman | riot: oh well . .then i guess you shouldn't be the admin on your box .. you aren't paying attention to what it tells you |
| 01:10.54 | oOGneaOo | hopefully that's not a production box |
| 01:11.36 | abrotman | oOGneaOo: he just said he was a developer :) |
| 01:11.42 | riot | woot! No recent changes to gcc! |
| 01:11.52 | onetinsoldier | riot: you're using sid? i use a custom compiled kernel in etch, and i didn't have a version-magic problem when i updated, i was wondering why. now that i see you are using 'sid', that might explain something. sid is for people that like to problem solve. |
| 01:12.09 | abrotman | riot: so that means something else screwed your box .. which means you're now in a worse spot than before because you don't have a clue ... |
| 01:12.28 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: he is? |
| 01:12.28 | abrotman | erm .. clue about what is causing it :) |
| 01:12.36 | riot | oh, i have many clues |
| 01:12.44 | abrotman | oOGneaOo: at least he had a suspicion before |
| 01:13.03 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: yeah but he can't even configure a kernel and then comes crying to us about it... sounds fishy |
| 01:13.30 | riot | oOGneaOo: could you just stfukthnx! |
| 01:13.37 | abrotman | riot: stop being nasty to people |
| 01:13.47 | abrotman | oOGneaOo: would it be the first time ? :) |
| 01:13.47 | oOGneaOo | riot: drop the attitude and yes, i will. |
| 01:13.54 | odla | what's stfukthnx mean? |
| 01:13.58 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: true. |
| 01:14.04 | odla | !stfukthnx |
| 01:14.04 | oOGneaOo | !stfukthnx |
| 01:14.05 | abrotman | odla: shut the fuck up okay thanks |
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| 01:14.14 | odla | abrotman: ? |
| 01:14.14 | abrotman | odla: used by tards usually :) |
| 01:14.16 | dan2 | is there a tool that can reverse the order of lines in a file from the shell |
| 01:14.22 | odla | oh you weren't saying that to me...i see |
| 01:14.32 | abrotman | dan2: yep |
| 01:14.41 | dan2 | abrotman: you know the name? |
| 01:14.44 | abrotman | nope :) |
| 01:14.48 | n3kl | Hi |
| 01:14.58 | petemc | tac |
| 01:14.58 | n3kl | Anyone know if vmware is in apt? |
| 01:15.03 | riot | dpkg knows it now. |
| 01:15.04 | CHodapp | doubt it. |
| 01:15.13 | abrotman | see ... that's why we let petemc stick around! |
| 01:15.14 | oOGneaOo | riot: so, do you need any real help with the kernel or are you going to sit there and attack me? |
| 01:15.22 | abrotman | riot: dpkg knows what ? |
| 01:15.34 | abrotman | woohoo! |
| 01:15.41 | CHodapp | huh? |
| 01:15.46 | oOGneaOo | n3kl: no, it's not |
| 01:16.10 | riot | oOGneaOo: if you really want to know: It works again, almost. Dumb nvidia just needs a new module. |
| 01:16.23 | n3kl | oOGneaOo: do you know how I would install it? |
| 01:16.29 | abrotman | riot: and this is a new thing for you ? |
| 01:16.30 | oOGneaOo | riot: ah ok |
| 01:16.37 | odla | n3kl: follow the instructions on the vmware website |
| 01:16.40 | abrotman | doesn't that happen every week in sid ? |
| 01:16.45 | oOGneaOo | n3kl: yeah, download and install it from www.vmware.com |
| 01:16.46 | odla | n3kl: it's pretty easy you just need the kernel-headers |
| 01:16.56 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: lol |
| 01:17.12 | abrotman | i was being serious ... |
| 01:17.21 | oOGneaOo | riot: yeah, nvidia can be a beotch at times, it happens. |
| 01:17.35 | oOGneaOo | so was i... |
| 01:17.44 | devinx | dan2: tac |
| 01:17.48 | dan2 | thanks |
| 01:18.06 | riot | abrotman: no. Its just one of the more annoying parts of instating a new kernel-release. |
| 01:18.26 | abrotman | stop using the stupid binary only crap |
| 01:18.35 | riot | it was way worse with ati.. fglrx threw out of my boxes. Including Hardware. |
| 01:18.48 | oOGneaOo | heh |
| 01:18.52 | riot | abrotman: what else? I like to have gl. Not some mesa-bullshit. |
| 01:18.54 | abrotman | too bad i keep forgetting the name of the other project |
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| 01:19.02 | abrotman | riot: you're a developer .. you don't need 3d do you ? |
| 01:19.13 | gravity | "not some mesa bullshit"? |
| 01:19.27 | riot | abrotman: wtf?! what makes you think, developers don't need GL?? Huh? Not everyone writes tiny shellscripts.. |
| 01:19.31 | abrotman | gravity: what .. are you saying riot doesn't know what he's talkikng about? |
| 01:19.39 | gravity | heh |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | riot: do you NEED 3d acceleration ? |
| 01:19.52 | zinx | abrotman: don't get me started |
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| 01:19.59 | abrotman | riot: what kind of software do you write? .. VB6 apps ? |
| 01:20.18 | |ryan| | abrotman: that was pretty low. |
| 01:20.19 | riot | abrotman: one of my projects _freezes_ when run with even an OLD, but supported accelerator. |
| 01:20.20 | abrotman | zinx: about what? |
| 01:20.23 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: he might need it for those violent games so he can vent his rage of kernel modules not building right |
| 01:20.25 | zinx | abrotman: developers not needing 3d |
| 01:20.41 | abrotman | zinx: unless you're developing 3d apps .. you don't need it |
| 01:20.48 | riot | abrotman: trivial. |
| 01:20.49 | abrotman | oOGneaOo: enigma works! |
| 01:20.54 | zinx | abrotman: i'm developing quake4, ETTV, and ET Pro |
| 01:21.09 | CHodapp | I never do any gaming, but I use 3D for some modeling applications and for compositing with Aiglx. |
| 01:21.14 | abrotman | riot: not really .. you're whining about something that got broken because you're messing with binary-only modules because .. you're cool ? |
| 01:21.26 | gravity | I like 3d for frozen-bubble |
| 01:21.29 | riot | abrotman: unless you're developing audio apps .. you don't need any special audio.. sure. You'd stick to mono, if it were less complicated, huh? |
| 01:21.38 | zinx | abrotman: technically ETTV doesn't need 3d so much, but i included it anyway :D |
| 01:21.42 | abrotman | zinx: that's a bit different ... riot still hasn't told us why he needs 3d for his development workstation |
| 01:21.46 | riot | abrotman: forget it.. |
| 01:21.53 | abrotman | right .. see what i mean :) |
| 01:22.11 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: gee i dunno, i kinda like having a sweet desktop to develop anything in when i'm in the development mood... e17 is a good example and it uses 3d |
| 01:22.16 | odla | really 3d for frozen-bubble? |
| 01:22.24 | abrotman | oOGneaOo: he didn't say he develops dr17 |
| 01:22.33 | oOGneaOo | abrotman: he didn't say he uses it either |
| 01:22.57 | riot | abrotman: next thing is you telling me to go and use kubuntu instead of debian? Or some suse?! PFF |
| 01:23.24 | oOGneaOo | riot: you seem to have a nasty pine tree rammed up your anal cavity.. you should have that looked at |
| 01:23.31 | abrotman | riot: i don't care what you use .. just don't whine about things that you've subjected yourself to for no good reason |
| 01:23.35 | odla | oOGneaOo: tis the season though |
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| 01:23.54 | oOGneaOo | odla: good, then they can go elsewhere |
| 01:24.13 | gravity | odla: Yeah, frozen-bubble 2 has 3d rendered penguin guys at the bottom and such |
| 01:24.23 | zinx | it'll be interesting to see how nouveau progresses |
| 01:24.26 | Gnurdux | frozen bubble 2 is nice |
| 01:24.26 | gravity | Oh yeah, compiz and beryl and such. 3d is nice for compositing |
| 01:24.32 | gravity | zinx: Yeah, I'll be pushing for it in lenny |
| 01:24.40 | gravity | zinx: I need to ebay me an nvidia card to test it out |
| 01:24.44 | odla | i hope beryl gets into sid soon :) |
| 01:24.56 | oOGneaOo | gravity: i've got a spare pci nvidia card :) |
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| 01:25.23 | zinx | gravity: apparently it can render glxgears's gears very small (you have to rotate them to see the sides every once and a while as small dots) |
| 01:25.47 | gravity | odla: We're working on it. The beryl website is down right now, which is preventing them from making the 0.1.3 release. Once they do, our packager will finish it up and I'll upload it |
| 01:25.57 | gravity | zinx: Heh, fun |
| 01:26.03 | odla | gravity: awesome! |
| 01:26.14 | abrotman | gravity: i thought you just got a new laptop ? |
| 01:26.27 | gravity | abrotman: Desktop |
| 01:26.28 | zinx | gravity: hmm, experimental or sid? |
| 01:26.37 | abrotman | gravity: and you have no video capable of 3d ? |
| 01:26.40 | gravity | zinx: beryl? Probably sid |
| 01:26.43 | gravity | abrotman: Oh, I do |
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| 01:27.13 | gravity | Intel all the way through baby |
| 01:27.19 | onetinsoldier | to use beryl would i need Xgl since i'm using fglrx? is so does Xgl work pretty good? or is a little quirky? |
| 01:27.33 | onetinsoldier | if so* |
| 01:28.00 | gravity | That reminds me... for anyone who actually follows fglrx, are they planning on supporting t-f-p and AIGLX sometime soon? |
| 01:28.07 | zinx | onetinsoldiar: xgl isn't in debian |
| 01:28.19 | zinx | gravity: not that i know of |
| 01:28.22 | abrotman | gravity: i thought they said they were |
| 01:28.28 | abrotman | i think pipeline was talkinga bout it |
| 01:28.30 | zinx | it's not on any schedules yet, afaik |
| 01:28.44 | onetinsoldier | zinx: i know it isn't, i was told i would need to go downalod it and compile. i'm capable of doing that, but have not done so yet. |
| 01:28.57 | onetinsoldier | download* |
| 01:29.25 | gravity | There's a package in ubuntu that might work for you too |
| 01:29.43 | onetinsoldier | gravity: you mean me? |
| 01:29.49 | onetinsoldier | an Xgl package? |
| 01:29.51 | gravity | onetinsoldier: Yeah |
| 01:30.02 | gravity | There isn't one in Debian for several reasons, so that's a good option |
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| 01:30.45 | onetinsoldier | gravity: ok, thanks. i might check it out. i don't mind compiling though so i might do that. |
| 01:30.55 | gravity | onetinsoldier: Ok |
| 01:31.03 | abrotman | gravity: why can't xorg have both ? |
| 01:31.05 | gravity | compiling works. There's a bazillion instructions out there on doing it |
| 01:31.08 | gravity | abrotman: Both? |
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| 01:31.18 | abrotman | gravity: aiglx and xgl |
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| 01:31.22 | gravity | It sorta kinda does |
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| 01:31.42 | gravity | No one has cared enough upstream to merge xgl back to the mainline xorg, so it's currently very broken there. |
| 01:31.48 | abrotman | oh |
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| 01:32.01 | gravity | So we'd need a separate tarball. |
| 01:32.25 | abrotman | could someone package xgl as an addon module ? |
| 01:32.25 | gravity | As it is, I think aiglx is the right way to go, so I want to support that. ATI is the last holdout on supporting it, and I'm sure it's only a matter of time |
| 01:32.26 | gravity | Sure |
| 01:32.34 | gravity | No one has really expressed interest. The ITP is open still for the XSF. |
| 01:32.45 | gravity | If someone really wants to do it, they can and I'll support them. |
| 01:32.49 | onetinsoldier | yeah, i wish ati would support aiglx |
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| 01:32.58 | CHodapp | Do Intel's chipsets work well with Aiglx? |
| 01:33.00 | onetinsoldier | those bastards |
| 01:33.07 | abrotman | i'm pretty sure someone(thought it was pipeline) said that ati would support aiglx soon |
| 01:33.07 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: i wish compiz didn't spasm so much =) |
| 01:33.09 | gravity | CHodapp: Very well |
| 01:33.11 | abrotman | CHodapp: yes |
| 01:33.16 | CHodapp | Cool. |
| 01:33.22 | gravity | CHodapp: Intel's chipsets are unarguably the best supported chipsets under Linux right now |
| 01:33.34 | SerajewelKS | gravity: i disagree |
| 01:33.43 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: it has spasm's? |
| 01:33.43 | gravity | SerajewelKS: Oh? |
| 01:34.03 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: which are better ? |
| 01:34.11 | CHodapp | older ATI? |
| 01:34.16 | SerajewelKS | gravity: at least in sarge, X.org on my friend's intel card freezes regularly |
| 01:34.19 | zinx | abrotman: CELL? |
| 01:34.26 | SerajewelKS | gravity: xfree to |
| 01:34.28 | abrotman | zinx: eh .. no ? |
| 01:34.29 | gravity | SerajewelKS: Yeah, I'm talking about the current situation |
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| 01:34.38 | gravity | SerajewelKS: For Etch, Intel clearly has the best support |
| 01:34.41 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: do they have the GL screensavers running? |
| 01:34.43 | gravity | They have several active developers |
| 01:34.44 | SerajewelKS | gravity: ah, yeah we haven't tried etch |
| 01:34.45 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: no |
| 01:34.54 | gravity | And a lot of prototyping for things like randr 1.2 are being done first on the intel driver |
| 01:35.08 | zinx | oh, video |
| 01:35.15 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: switching to a VT and switching back to X was a sure way to lock the screen though, permanently |
| 01:35.18 | zinx | unfortunately Intel's video cards suck |
| 01:35.18 | abrotman | the last lock i had in X ... was related to GL stuff and some Wait_Loop() or something |
| 01:35.37 | gravity | That's still an ugly issue |
| 01:35.43 | abrotman | zinx: they work for general 3d and everything else .. and i don't have to deal with the devil to get 3d |
| 01:35.48 | SerajewelKS | gravity: speaking from my experience, i've had zero problems with the nonfree nvidia drivers |
| 01:35.49 | gravity | Switching back and forth from vt seems to expose a number of latent bugs. |
| 01:36.02 | gravity | SerajewelKS: You should see the raft of reports I've gotten about those |
| 01:36.04 | SerajewelKS | gravity: and lots of problems with others *shrug* |
| 01:36.29 | SerajewelKS | gravity: granted i am running testing, no idea how the situation is in unstable |
| 01:36.43 | zinx | http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-004684.htm <- intel's video cards. |
| 01:36.56 | abrotman | and ? |
| 01:37.00 | gravity | The nvidia drivers are apparently very good as a whole |
| 01:37.03 | gravity | But they're still non-free |
| 01:37.17 | abrotman | zinx: they run fine here .. and my laptop is pretty damn old |
| 01:37.21 | CHodapp | they've given me occasional crashes |
| 01:37.26 | SerajewelKS | gravity: *nods* that's the only nonfree kernel stuff i use |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | erm .. not pretty damn old .. but not cutting edge |
| 01:37.51 | zinx | abrotman: i'm just sayin.. intel would rather disable acceleration than fix the problem |
| 01:37.53 | gravity | I'm glad I finally kicked ndiswrapper to the curb last week. I finally have a clean kernel |
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| 01:38.08 | abrotman | zinx: luckily it only affects windows! |
| 01:38.09 | zinx | abrotman: that's in windows, by the way. there's really no way for it to know what's a screensaver in linux |
| 01:38.20 | SerajewelKS | gravity: i'd like to have a clean kernel too, but there's really nothing else that works at well |
| 01:38.21 | zinx | abrotman: instead you just get 'incompatibilities' |
| 01:38.27 | abrotman | zinx: i do ? |
| 01:38.31 | gravity | nouveau is coming |
| 01:38.31 | zinx | abrotman: i.e., their drivers aren't OpenGL compliant. |
| 01:38.37 | abrotman | zinx: works fine for me! |
| 01:38.40 | zinx | abrotman: at least, not their windows ones ;) |
| 01:38.45 | zinx | abrotman: are you sure you'd notice? |
| 01:38.50 | SerajewelKS | gravity: eh? |
| 01:38.56 | abrotman | zinx: you need better games! |
| 01:39.13 | zinx | abrotman: i've never used an intel card :) |
| 01:39.16 | abrotman | zinx: i used to play lots more games on the laptop .. |
| 01:39.35 | gravity | SerajewelKS: A free software nvidia driver that supports 3d accel |
| 01:39.35 | SerajewelKS | i have plenty of nonfree userland things but those don't bother me as much as nonfree kernel modules |
| 01:39.49 | SerajewelKS | gravity: oh really? i hope it's decent. |
| 01:39.57 | gravity | SerajewelKS: It's still in development. It's very early yet. |
| 01:40.05 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: try it .. let us know :) |
| 01:40.11 | zinx | SerajewelKS: neither of the native drivers for either of my wireless cards support WPA |
| 01:40.34 | zinx | SerajewelKS: and one requires proprietary (non-wext) configuration |
| 01:40.47 | SerajewelKS | zinx: another reason i avoid wireless =) |
| 01:40.57 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: i sure will |
| 01:40.57 | zinx | hopefully when i get a new laptop that will not be a problem ;) |
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| 01:41.07 | zinx | most seem to use ipwXXXX cards, which seem well supported |
| 01:41.28 | abrotman | zinx: won't it have an intel video card ? |
| 01:41.32 | zinx | there's really no excuse for not supporting WPA these days |
| 01:41.40 | nsx | anyone know what it is that causes nautilus to display extra hard disk drives? |
| 01:41.49 | abrotman | gnome-volume-manager |
| 01:41.55 | zinx | abrotman: No. I can't develop without a decent video card, ergo it will probably have a nVidia 7x00 or so |
| 01:41.55 | nsx | ah |
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| 01:42.22 | abrotman | zinx: you know .. if you made it work on your intel card .. people might want to play it! |
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| 01:42.39 | nsx | abrotman: that didn't seem to work |
| 01:42.46 | nsx | i just restarted nautilus and it's still not showing them |
| 01:42.50 | nsx | perhaps i'm missing something else? |
| 01:43.01 | abrotman | !automount |
| 01:43.01 | dpkg | if you are a gnome user ask me about <gnome-volume-manager>, otherwise ask me about <ivman> or <autofs> |
| 01:43.02 | nsx | i did a clean install and hand picked packages this time.. and i've obviously left out something i had before |
| 01:43.08 | zinx | abrotman: i don't do the graphics portion of any of those apps (well, mostly, did some very minor bug fixes for ET 2.60) |
| 01:43.37 | abrotman | zinx: so you don't actually need 3d ? |
| 01:43.53 | zinx | abrotman: most of the graphics stuff i do is visualization or just playing around (http://zinx.xmms.org/misc/tmp/gl_wave.c) |
| 01:43.54 | SerajewelKS | gravity: reverse engineering like this fascinates me |
| 01:44.08 | gravity | SerajewelKS: It's a good project for you to follow then |
| 01:44.12 | zinx | abrotman: i need 3d to run the application, i need to run the application to develop it |
| 01:44.33 | abrotman | zinx: you need better specs :) |
| 01:44.39 | SerajewelKS | zinx: you may be interested in a project i'm working on then |
| 01:44.43 | zinx | abrotman: o_O |
| 01:44.50 | nsx | is there an easy way to look at the meta info for an installed package? e.g., what "suggested packages" there were? |
| 01:44.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:45.00 | abrotman | nsx: apt-cache show |
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| 01:45.43 | JaMaLz | how to force apt-get upgrade |
| 01:45.46 | SerajewelKS | zinx: depending on what you think of .NET that is... a managed visualization studio, resembling winamp AVS |
| 01:46.13 | nsx | i wonder if libgnomevfs2-extra might be what i need |
| 01:46.16 | abrotman | JaMaLz: force ? why? |
| 01:46.34 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i wanna for upgrade for my old system |
| 01:46.43 | abrotman | why do you have to force it ? |
| 01:46.48 | zinx | SerajewelKS: not really, but you may be interested in http://zinx.xmms.org/misc/tmp/glsyna.tar.gz - no warantee on that, i don't even remember writing it. |
| 01:47.13 | JaMaLz | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 01:47.15 | zinx | SerajewelKS: but i definitely did :x |
| 01:47.25 | abrotman | zinx: your code crashed zinf! |
| 01:47.26 | SerajewelKS | zinx: if you want to see a shot, http://www.chrishowie.com/files/kaffeeklatsch2.png -- keep in mind this is *old* =) |
| 01:47.32 | zinx | abrotman: Success! |
| 01:47.36 | g333k | hw to see the list of open ports that a PC has? |
| 01:47.37 | abrotman | !e2fsloop |
| 01:47.39 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:47.39 | Dewi | How can I enter a tab on a bash command line? |
| 01:47.43 | abrotman | !e2fsprogsloop |
| 01:47.44 | CHodapp | \t |
| 01:48.04 | abrotman | !tell JaMaLz about e2fsprogs loop |
| 01:48.08 | SerajewelKS | g333k: netstat -plunt |
| 01:48.18 | Dewi | CHodapp: I can't seem to make bash recognise backslash escapes |
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| 01:48.34 | apfel | I'm trying to use centericq 4.21.0 (Debian) with msn but it only says "connecting to the server" and nothing else seems to happen. Any ideas? |
| 01:48.54 | g333k | SerajewelKS, if the pc is in a remote place? |
| 01:49.00 | JaMaLz | abrotman : aha thanks |
| 01:49.04 | zinx | abrotman: do note that both of those require GLSL fragment programs, which i do not think intel's cards support |
| 01:49.10 | SerajewelKS | g333k: do you have ssh access? |
| 01:49.18 | abrotman | zinx: i was joking :) |
| 01:49.28 | abrotman | zinx: oh .. i could try if you want .. |
| 01:49.40 | n3kl | anyone know how to turn a few avis into a dvd? |
| 01:49.53 | liable | can i have set -x and -e? |
| 01:50.03 | JaMaLz | abrotman : but testing didn't work |
| 01:50.12 | abrotman | JaMaLz: damn well should! |
| 01:50.17 | SerajewelKS | g333k: or are you wanting to do a portscan? |
| 01:50.18 | apfel | anyone using centericq for msn? |
| 01:50.24 | zinx | abrotman: heh, glxinfo | grep GL_ARB_fragment_shader |
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| 01:50.30 | abrotman | zinx: actually .. it doesn't compile |
| 01:50.36 | liable | yes i can.. |
| 01:50.37 | JaMaLz | abrotman : or shell i do upgrade with stable than go to unstable |
| 01:50.42 | abrotman | zinx: zip |
| 01:50.44 | zinx | abrotman: likely requires cflags via pkg-config |
| 01:50.46 | shadowarts | do initrd files contain partitoin information? |
| 01:50.54 | abrotman | zinx: i didn't get a make file! |
| 01:51.02 | abrotman | incomplete docs! |
| 01:51.05 | zinx | :D |
| 01:51.30 | zinx | <- lazy |
| 01:51.48 | zinx | no docs with my random toys :D |
| 01:51.51 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:52.52 | JaMaLz | abrotman : apt-get dist-upgrade thats is like forcing ? |
| 01:53.02 | abrotman | what does it say ? |
| 01:53.13 | JaMaLz | distro upgrade |
| 01:54.05 | abrotman | i meant the message/error |
| 01:54.28 | yassine | hi everyone |
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| 01:55.07 | yassine | i would like to have postgresql installed on a secon drive is there a way i could specify that while installing or do i have to configure it manually ? |
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| 01:55.28 | abrotman | you mean where the actual data resides ? |
| 01:55.31 | dondelelcaro | yassine: you mean the database on a different drive? |
| 01:55.49 | yassine | dondelelcaro, yes |
| 01:57.26 | dondelelcaro | yassine: use pg_createcluster to initialize the database, and fix your postgresql configuration to use the new cluster, or change the symlinks to point at it. |
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| 01:58.20 | shadowarts | how can i mount an initrd file? |
| 01:59.55 | mick_home | shadowarts: mount -o loop [file] [mount point] |
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| 02:01.48 | shadowarts | alright i got a question then |
| 02:02.29 | shadowarts | how can i regenerate initrd |
| 02:02.40 | shadowarts | because i think it looks at your fstab for some info |
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| 02:04.21 | shadowarts | im trying to get the partition that is set as root in initrd to be a swap partition, but when i tried this out on a different machine |
| 02:04.35 | shadowarts | it just wrecked it (all files were gone) after i ran mkswap |
| 02:04.57 | shadowarts | and i guess my suspision is that the initrd having that set as root does that |
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| 02:09.47 | aredhel | shadowarts, mkinitrd or yaird, can be used for initial ram disk creation. |
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| 02:12.38 | shadowarts | alright thanks |
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| 02:14.29 | anddreaz | ahh, debian 3.1r4 installed ;) |
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| 02:14.54 | onetinsoldier | cool |
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| 02:25.30 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 02:25.30 | dpkg | somebody said qotd97 was [21:05:13] <MarkS> guys, just a quick poll/survey. What irc client are you using? [21:05:32] <pipeline> MarkS: Just /version #debian [21:05:54] <MarkS> oh cool... thanks pipeline. I didn't realize I could do that. |
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| 02:25.52 | Gokee2_Laptop | I am trying to install nvidia drivers for a Gforce 2 card. But when I run the command "m-a auto-install nvidia-legacy-kernel-source" m-a says "nvidia-legacy-kernel-source what is nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?" Anyone know why? |
| 02:26.06 | Gokee2_Laptop | I am running testing |
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| 02:27.37 | Azar | nvidia one-liner does not work for Etch? |
| 02:28.40 | jnguy | ought to? |
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| 02:28.51 | jnguy | !nvidia |
| 02:28.52 | dpkg | i heard nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 02:29.29 | jnguy | er. I didn't know you weren't supposed to use the installer from the website. |
| 02:30.02 | dan2 | !latin |
| 02:30.02 | dpkg | latin is probably an old dead but beautiful language |
| 02:30.20 | Gokee2_Laptop | Hmmm why were the drivers "removed from testing"? |
| 02:30.27 | Azar | well no, that installer is not working with debian |
| 02:30.31 | abrotman | !etch nvidia |
| 02:30.32 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php Use something less than the -3 version of the 8756 driver to not have the dependency on Xorg 7. |
| 02:30.32 | dan2 | dpkg: no, latin is an old and dead language that sucks Bill Gates peepee |
| 02:30.32 | dpkg | dan2: okay |
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| 02:30.43 | abrotman | wtf |
| 02:30.59 | SerajewelKS | the nvidia drivers are still in unstable... |
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| 02:31.45 | devinx | dpkg can talk? |
| 02:31.46 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: no, latin is an old dead but beautiful language |
| 02:31.46 | dpkg | okay, SerajewelKS |
| 02:31.51 | SerajewelKS | dan2: go away |
| 02:32.01 | Azar | SerajewelKS: so for now we don't have yet a nvidia one-liner for etch? |
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| 02:32.17 | SerajewelKS | Azar: not really, i just install the unstable packages |
| 02:32.18 | Gnurdux | just add the unstable repo |
| 02:32.44 | Azar | hmm is that because etch comes with xorg instead of xfree86? |
| 02:32.46 | SerajewelKS | Azar: so not a one-liner i guess, more like a three-liner |
| 02:33.02 | SerajewelKS | Azar: i think to solve a dependency problem, they work fine with xorg |
| 02:33.29 | SerajewelKS | Azar: probably deps or an rc bug holding them from automatically moving into testing |
| 02:33.32 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I see... back in August I upgraded one of my boxes to etch, never had a problem with nvidia, it was already in from Sarge |
| 02:33.53 | abrotman | Gnurdux: eh .. no? |
| 02:34.05 | SerajewelKS | Gnurdux: not unless you pin to testing |
| 02:34.13 | Gnurdux | i do pin to testing though |
| 02:34.23 | Gnurdux | i have unstable and experimental so i can get upgrades if i choose |
| 02:34.25 | SerajewelKS | well that's not what you said ;) |
| 02:34.26 | abrotman | might wnat to be more explicit :) |
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| 02:34.54 | SerajewelKS | tag team! |
| 02:35.00 | abrotman | just keep your pants on this time! |
| 02:35.05 | jesseman_ | lord |
| 02:35.05 | Gnurdux | priority 100 for now, 1 for experimental, 50 for unstable, 990 for testing |
| 02:35.06 | SerajewelKS | <_< |
| 02:35.11 | Azar | I think Etch installation will be a bit hard.. with all configuration following |
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| 02:35.22 | abrotman | Azar: are you serious ? |
| 02:35.23 | Gokee2_Laptop | Gnurdux, I looked into adding unstable and pinning firefox... looked like a pain. |
| 02:35.39 | SerajewelKS | Azar: windows requires you to configure shit too... |
| 02:35.54 | Azar | abrotman: if getting back to fiddle with nvidia drivers, works/no,yes/no.. it will be hard |
| 02:35.58 | Gnurdux | you just make a /etc/apt/preferences file; it can be worth it in the long term cause you only need to do it once |
| 02:36.07 | Azar | SerajewelKS: comparing with woody |
| 02:36.10 | Gnurdux | then you can install individual packages using some option that I forget |
| 02:36.12 | abrotman | Azar: that's not part of the normal installation |
| 02:36.47 | Azar | so what those who install Etch now do about their nvidia drivers? |
| 02:37.02 | Gnurdux | they install an unstable package |
| 02:37.14 | Azar | Gnurdux: shaddap, no unstable for me |
| 02:37.32 | Azar | I had unstable worked 3 months then died |
| 02:37.48 | Gnurdux | theres a difference between unstable distribution and 1 unstable package you know |
| 02:37.54 | Gokee2_Laptop | THats why its called unstable :) |
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| 02:39.26 | Azar | so.. let's ask Gokee2_Laptop : did you installed Etch and it did not come with a video driver for you? how does that work? |
| 02:40.28 | Azar | I am still waiting for my Etch CDs... when they come I will be all over ya'll here |
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| 02:44.18 | surial | Hello! What's the package to go for to install java (1.5)? |
| 02:44.34 | abrotman | which version of java ? |
| 02:44.43 | abrotman | erm . of debian :) |
| 02:44.46 | surial | the newest. 1.5 (or even 1.6, though that's still in RCs I believe). |
| 02:44.47 | surial | ah. |
| 02:44.50 | surial | 3.1r4 |
| 02:44.54 | surial | (testing, I believe). |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | !java-package |
| 02:44.58 | dpkg | methinks java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 02:44.58 | surial | hold on |
| 02:45.07 | surial | Linux stewie 2.6.17-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Sep 13 16:34:10 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:45.26 | abrotman | that's a kernel version .. not a debian version .. cat /etc/debian_version |
| 02:45.41 | abrotman | !install java |
| 02:45.41 | dpkg | somebody said install java was First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using etch/sid. |
| 02:45.47 | surial | 4.0 |
| 02:45.53 | abrotman | that's etch/sid |
| 02:46.17 | surial | so, sun-java5-jdk from non-free then? |
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| 02:47.55 | abrotman | surial: yes |
| 02:48.02 | surial | thanks. |
| 02:48.02 | lordnazgul | so I am something of a doofus. I was using dd to clone a drive, but i used the partition (/dev/hda1) as the source and the MBR didnt get copied. This took a long time to do. is there any way of getting the MBR without the whole drive (/dev/hda) as the source? |
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| 02:48.57 | pipeline | lordnazgul: No, because all of the data needs to be shifted ~1000 bytes. |
| 02:49.04 | lordnazgul | pipeline even if i had manually created the partition before i did the restore? |
| 02:49.04 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: aren't partitions independent of the MBR? |
| 02:49.41 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: i though the MBR was bytes 512-1023 of /dev/hda (b, c, whatever) |
| 02:49.53 | |ryan| | no |
| 02:50.11 | pipeline | lordnazgul: I misunderstood, I thought you copied /dev/hda1 to a drive as target. |
| 02:50.14 | pipeline | lordnazgul: Yeah, you're fine. |
| 02:50.29 | pipeline | lordnazgul: Just copy the first couple of blocks and you'll get the boot sector and mbr. |
| 02:50.31 | |ryan| | mbr is the first 448 bytes. |
| 02:50.40 | pipeline | lordnazgul: err, boot sector and partition table, rather |
| 02:50.46 | |ryan| | partition table is the following 64 bytes |
| 02:50.53 | lordnazgul | so just copy the first couple of mb and i should be good |
| 02:51.11 | SerajewelKS | so, dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb count=448 bs=1 |
| 02:51.22 | |ryan| | dah |
| 02:51.26 | SerajewelKS | assuming the real src/dest names |
| 02:51.35 | |ryan| | or 512 if you want to copy the partition table too. |
| 02:51.53 | lordnazgul | ok thanks guys it took like six hours to do this because i was doing it to a samba share and back |
| 02:52.12 | SerajewelKS | netcat ftw |
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| 02:54.40 | Yasuekie | Excuse me, can I ask a question about configuring WindowMaker 0.62 |
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| 02:55.04 | SerajewelKS | sorry, no, this channel is for dead silence |
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| 02:55.14 | SerajewelKS | !ask |
| 02:55.14 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:55.27 | Yasuekie | thanks |
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| 02:55.52 | Yasuekie | I want to change the thickness of resizebar |
| 02:56.04 | Mrfo | im trying to install an experimental package. i added experimental to my sources.list and did an apt-get update |
| 02:56.17 | Mrfo | but when i try to apt-get install the package it wont install the experimental version |
| 02:56.20 | Yasuekie | Can I do this? |
| 02:56.26 | SerajewelKS | Mrfo: did you pin to your distro first? |
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| 02:56.33 | Mrfo | no |
| 02:56.44 | Mrfo | i dont know what that means |
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| 02:56.47 | Mrfo | but ill look it up :) |
| 02:56.57 | SerajewelKS | !tell Mrfo about pinning |
| 02:57.06 | Mrfo | thanks |
| 02:57.12 | SerajewelKS | Mrfo: once you've done that, apt-get install -i experimental packagename |
| 02:57.28 | SerajewelKS | err |
| 02:57.30 | SerajewelKS | -t |
| 02:57.39 | abrotman | Yasuekie: did you ask #windowmaker ? |
| 02:57.45 | Yasuekie | yes |
| 02:57.51 | abrotman | and ? |
| 02:58.05 | abrotman | Yasuekie: which distro are you using ? |
| 02:58.07 | Yasuekie | I told "Can I ask a question" |
| 02:58.18 | Yasuekie | but there was no responce |
| 02:58.25 | abrotman | Yasuekie: so ask .. and wait |
| 02:58.27 | Yasuekie | Vine |
| 02:58.39 | Yasuekie | It is a japanese distro |
| 02:58.41 | abrotman | wtf is Vine ? |
| 02:58.47 | abrotman | so why are you asking #debian ? |
| 02:59.06 | Yasuekie | Because GNUstep is related to GNU... |
| 02:59.13 | abrotman | so ask #gnu ? |
| 02:59.18 | Yasuekie | OK |
| 02:59.21 | Phated | ... heh. |
| 02:59.26 | Yasuekie | I will go to gnu |
| 02:59.32 | Yasuekie | thank you very much |
| 02:59.34 | abrotman | Yasuekie: honestly .. ask ##linux and #windowmaker .. probably the best places to get help |
| 02:59.49 | Yasuekie | I have got it |
| 03:00.02 | Yasuekie | bye |
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| 03:03.01 | oOGneaOo | iceweasel 2.0 rocks. |
| 03:03.22 | oOGneaOo | if it crashes, it can restore all of your tabs |
| 03:03.50 | surial | is there any way to install the JDK (v1.5), on etch, withOUT any GUI stuff? This is just a server, I'll never ever need to run swing/awt stuff on this. |
| 03:03.51 | abrotman | golly .. opera had that .. like .. 4 years ago :) |
| 03:04.02 | abrotman | surial: without gui stuff ? |
| 03:04.15 | abrotman | surial: oh .. that's part of the jdk |
| 03:04.40 | surial | abrotman: sudo apt-get -s install sun-java5-jdk informs me that x11-common amongst other things will be installed. That sounds bad. |
| 03:04.55 | devinx | oOGneaOo: aye |
| 03:05.15 | abrotman | surial: not really .. not a big deal |
| 03:05.24 | surial | same for libx11-6 and libx11-data? OK. |
| 03:05.41 | abrotman | just libraries |
| 03:06.41 | surial | I'll be glad when January comes around and all this licencing headachery is history. |
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| 03:07.21 | surial | wow, that was painless! |
| 03:07.28 | olskolirc | hi hi im back |
| 03:07.38 | surial | Heh. I just got done installing java5 on a FreeBSD box. Took 5 hours and hand-tweaking of a whole bunch of files. |
| 03:07.52 | abrotman | surial: we're sorry :) |
| 03:08.45 | surial | yeah, well. After I borked the entire box right after that painful 5 hours by creating a typo in one of the firewall files (which goof makes 'default deny all' the default on a server OS? Not everyone has a serial access!)... I implored for debian. Which is on there now. |
| 03:08.47 | surial | Just getting it set up. |
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| 03:09.39 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:09.39 | dpkg | <jsolis> how can i access my network when i dont have a network icon |
| 03:09.53 | Azar | ;) |
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| 03:09.54 | CHodapp | !qotd1 |
| 03:09.54 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
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| 03:10.09 | Azar | haha |
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| 03:18.39 | LunarCrisis | is there a command to sort a series of filenames, with directories coming before files? |
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| 03:18.52 | LunarCrisis | sort is nice, but it does it purely alphabetically |
| 03:19.29 | Phated | ls -X? |
| 03:19.30 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: probably just run two ls commands, using --sort |
| 03:19.33 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: `man ls' |
| 03:20.02 | surial | Welp, that's 12 minutes. from fresh netinstalled debian to having everything up and running that I need. Remind me not to deviate from debian again in the future. |
| 03:20.09 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: then write a shell function which encapsulates your solution |
| 03:20.13 | abrotman | surial: why would you ever do that >/ |
| 03:20.14 | abrotman | ? |
| 03:20.33 | surial | In retrospect I don't know what came over me when I agreed to give the colo-preferred FreeBSD a try. |
| 03:20.42 | abrotman | what do they know ... |
| 03:20.47 | chemaja | surial: big version numbers in ports? :) |
| 03:21.06 | Azar | hehe http://www.bash.org/?464385 |
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| 03:21.51 | surial | chemaja: hmm? Well, my two main beefs were: 1) Installing java ridiculously difficult and you still end up with an 'experimental' version, and 2) Insane defaults. IN-SANE. default block all for the 2 firewall apps (which do not play ball together either). Meaning if you typo anything you just DoSsed yourself until you can drive down to the colo if your colo doesn't offer serial access. Mine didn't. |
| 03:22.02 | surial | That's a bit harsh, I think. I'd prefer at the very least a default block all except 22 scheme. |
| 03:22.11 | LunarCrisis | chemaja, I can't nest backticks, can I? |
| 03:22.35 | LunarCrisis | the context I need to use it in is vim `find -name \*.e | sort` |
| 03:22.48 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: dont use ``, use $() |
| 03:22.53 | LunarCrisis | the context I need to use it in is vim `ls `find -name \*.e`` should work |
| 03:23.00 | LunarCrisis | hmm |
| 03:23.04 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: `` is deprecated. |
| 03:23.07 | LunarCrisis | ah, okay |
| 03:23.19 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: and i think that $() nests properly |
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| 03:23.44 | LunarCrisis | chemaja, yup, thanks =) |
| 03:23.47 | abrotman | surial: admittedly ..a miskey in iptables can lock you out too |
| 03:24.20 | surial | also a stupid default. But at least when I run /etc/init.d/relevantService reload something happends in debian. In FreeBSD you get the command line thrown right back at you, instantaneously. To this day I don't know why. |
| 03:24.52 | chemaja | abrotman: yea, never cut-paste from google desktop (which inserts newline characters in really bad places) into a shell for iptables commands :) |
| 03:24.56 | nevyn | umm.. because being BSD it uses mostly a bsd init rather than a sysV init |
| 03:25.10 | LunarCrisis | chemaja, hmm, actually, I don't think this is what I need, I want all the entries in directory foo to show up together, but the directories before the files |
| 03:25.24 | abrotman | chemaja: you don't have yours memorized ? |
| 03:25.25 | LunarCrisis | using two ls commands would put all the files after all the directories |
| 03:25.37 | chemaja | LunarCrisis: find $1 -type d -maxdepth 1 |xargs ls or something |
| 03:25.41 | chemaja | ls -d |
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| 03:39.02 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:39.02 | dpkg | <d0ugie> kickin it real on efnet, doing takeovers on #hack manually, typing really fast to mode -o everyone <sussudio> d0ugie: can you stop being a sad wanker? |
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| 03:43.18 | Azar | abrotman, I believe you tested all it can be tested out there, which Debian version you like better so far? |
| 03:43.52 | Azar | well, "like better" is not the right one, what suits you best? |
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| 03:44.08 | abrotman | Azar: i use etch for my laptop .. but i have simple needs .. everything at work runs stable |
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| 03:44.58 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 03:45.07 | Azar | strangely is exactly what makes me happy too: a simple, stable and secure setting: that why I hang with stable |
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| 03:46.14 | MrEntropy | can someone throw a name of a software (preferably compatible with exim) that does what the SpamArrest company can do? Which is, when someone new sends you a mail, it sends a mail back asking for confirmation, when a real person confirms, their email is released, delievered and from then on all emails are accepted. |
| 03:47.12 | abrotman | probably ask #exim |
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| 03:48.20 | Piet | MrEntropy: everyone who has ever had to deal with mail servers will hate you for installing this |
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| 03:48.48 | abrotman | Piet: that may be so .. but he still wants it |
| 03:49.02 | MrEntropy | Piet: i know, it's a love-hate relationship we have going on here |
| 03:49.07 | Piet | and you may get blacklisted, too |
| 03:49.10 | abrotman | MrEntropy: looked at postgrey ? |
| 03:49.21 | MrEntropy | abrotman: not yet, will do now |
| 03:49.31 | abrotman | (might only work with postfix) |
| 03:49.43 | Piet | ok, just making sure you know what you'Re doing |
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| 03:50.17 | LunarCrisis | I've heard of people sending back "service temporarily unavailable" messages, which causes most mail servers to re-try the send. |
| 03:50.19 | abrotman | http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/ |
| 03:50.28 | LunarCrisis | apparently spammers tend not to bother trying again |
| 03:50.42 | SerajewelKS | mail servers suck! |
| 03:50.49 | NiCeBoY | hi , i do the "man quota" cmd on ssh. now i want to exit "man quota" what i should do please ??? |
| 03:50.51 | abrotman | email sucks .. use jabber :) |
| 03:50.56 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: hear hear |
| 03:50.58 | abrotman | NiCeBoY: hit 'q' |
| 03:50.59 | LunarCrisis | although they have trouble with hotmail, google, etc which may do the re-send from a different server |
| 03:51.12 | NiCeBoY | thatnks abchirk_ |
| 03:51.17 | NiCeBoY | abrotman thanks |
| 03:51.21 | abrotman | !tell NiCeBoY about grounding |
| 03:52.06 | SerajewelKS | NiCeBoY: you might want to learn 'man' before learning 'quota' ;) type "man man" |
| 03:52.53 | Azar | since nobody does nothing nowadays to stop the spam, I told my ISP to close my 25 port and not using a box-based mail. It is simply insane |
| 03:53.17 | abrotman | lots of people try to stop spam .. you need a new ISP |
| 03:53.37 | Azar | why a new ISP, abrotman? |
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| 03:53.56 | Azar | the guys at my ISP are the best I ever got so far |
| 03:53.59 | cr3 | what's the name of that application which enables me to run Windows applications on Linux? xine? |
| 03:54.08 | abrotman | !wine |
| 03:54.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, wine is at http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 03:54.11 | DARKGirl_ | hello everyone |
| 03:54.15 | cr3 | abrotman: thanks! |
| 03:54.17 | onetinsoldier | hi |
| 03:54.31 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: i just hope it takes a long time for spammers to find jabber |
| 03:54.31 | DARKGirl_ | kanotix fucked up my MBR and installed Grub on the WRONG drive |
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| 03:54.42 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: they have to be authorized |
| 03:54.44 | DARKGirl_ | can i please get some assistance to get it working again? |
| 03:54.45 | Azar | what the heck is kanotix |
| 03:54.54 | Azar | this is Debian |
| 03:54.54 | abrotman | Azar: /j #kanotix |
| 03:55.01 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: just to send messages? or is that configurable? |
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| 03:55.29 | Azar | DARKGirl_: try #kanotix |
| 03:55.32 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i don't use google talk much .. but my other jabber accounts require me to allow that person to send me messages before they actually can |
| 03:55.43 | DARKGirl_ | no thanks |
| 03:55.47 | DARKGirl_ | they are no help |
| 03:55.53 | abrotman | DARKGirl_: it's not a #debian problem |
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| 03:56.06 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: it's approved IM! |
| 03:56.10 | DARKGirl_ | grub is grub |
| 03:56.18 | DARKGirl_ | i just need help installing frub |
| 03:56.18 | EdLin | !they don't know |
| 03:56.18 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 03:56.19 | abrotman | good .. go ask #grub |
| 03:56.21 | DARKGirl_ | (grub) |
| 03:56.36 | DARKGuy | Greetings, I'm trying to help a friend who has Debian... I wonder, how does he get his own IP using the terminal? he has no "ip" command either :/ |
| 03:56.37 | abrotman | so ask #grub or ##linux .. it's not a debian problem |
| 03:56.59 | mybb | please help me, I burned the Etch CD1 successfully, it could boot in many PC, but can not boot in my laptop, but when I inserted the Sarge CD1, it booted well, what's the problem with my laptop? |
| 03:57.00 | abrotman | DARKGirl_: meet DARKGuy |
| 03:57.05 | SerajewelKS | DARKGuy: ifconfig |
| 03:57.06 | Azar | DARKGuy: ifconfig |
| 03:57.06 | DARKGuy | o_o |
| 03:57.08 | Phated | ... DARKGuy, DARKGirl_... wtf. |
| 03:57.13 | SerajewelKS | !lose Azar |
| 03:57.13 | dpkg | Azar: You Lose. |
| 03:57.18 | Azar | :) |
| 03:57.19 | DARKGuy | SerajewelKS: Azar thanks :) |
| 03:57.23 | DARKGuy | Lol DARKGirl oO |
| 03:57.23 | abrotman | /nick IllPhated |
| 03:57.25 | DARKGuy | man xD |
| 03:57.33 | Phated | abrotman: Bugger off :) |
| 03:57.34 | mrspinx | Hi I have installed apache2 and wordpress with php5 and msql |
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| 03:57.41 | mrspinx | php works |
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| 03:57.43 | abrotman | Phated: ... MWAH! |
| 03:57.50 | mrspinx | but not for an alias |
| 03:57.58 | SerajewelKS | alias? |
| 03:58.13 | mrspinx | "wordpress" |
| 03:58.22 | mrspinx | is the alias |
| 03:58.26 | SerajewelKS | you mean a vhost? |
| 03:58.28 | abrotman | stop hitting enter damn it |
| 03:58.36 | abrotman | directory alias or host alias ? |
| 03:58.57 | SerajewelKS | what's the point of dir aliases anyway... |
| 03:59.27 | SerajewelKS | softlinks exist for a reason |
| 03:59.29 | Azar | mybb: hardware stuff |
| 03:59.31 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: you can make www.host.com/blah/special/nov06/ into www.host.com/nov06/ etc |
| 03:59.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: yes, softlink |
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| 03:59.52 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: apache doesn't do that by default IIRC |
| 04:00.02 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: Option +FollowSymLinks |
| 04:00.04 | Azar | mybb: there are hardware that Sarge can work on, but Etch not, and viceversa |
| 04:00.08 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: look in the manual for FollowSymLinks |
| 04:00.09 | SerajewelKS | or whatever it is |
| 04:00.12 | mybb | Azar: yes, thank you, I'll try another one. |
| 04:00.18 | Azar | mybb: |
| 04:00.20 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: right .. but set by default? usually only if the owner is the same |
| 04:00.32 | Azar | mybb, you can install Sarge and dist-upgrade to Etch |
| 04:00.51 | Azar | it is a workaround.. it might work |
| 04:01.00 | mybb | Azar: my network speed is very slow, I don't want to do that :( |
| 04:01.08 | Azar | mybb ah I see |
| 04:01.28 | Azar | well I have no idea how the Etch installer (mis)-behaves |
| 04:01.40 | abrotman | mybb: did you try options? |
| 04:01.50 | Gokee2_Laptop | If you have the packages for etch on CD why not install Sarge then dist-upgrade to etch from the cd? |
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| 04:01.55 | mynullvoid | I have 2 linux machine which uses local authentication (passwd & shadow) one of the machine running samba, how could I do so that the password among these two server sync? |
| 04:02.07 | Azar | Gokee2_Laptop: he has a bad connection |
| 04:02.11 | mybb | Ah, I have a fail Etch CD1, and it could boot :( |
| 04:02.12 | Azar | hard to dist-upgrade |
| 04:02.36 | mybb | Gokee2_Laptop: I just have the CD1 |
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| 04:02.47 | mybb | can't download all of them :( |
| 04:02.57 | DARKGuy | Uhh |
| 04:03.01 | DARKGuy | he has no ifconfig either :( |
| 04:03.06 | DARKGuy | bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 04:03.11 | abrotman | DARKGuy: which versino of Debian ? |
| 04:03.11 | Phated | DARKGuy: Sure he does. sudo ifconfig. |
| 04:03.39 | DARKGuy | I think... one of the latest sarge oO |
| 04:03.44 | DARKGuy | k, lemme try |
| 04:03.48 | abrotman | /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 04:04.48 | Gokee2_Laptop | Ah I see |
| 04:07.56 | mybb | I'm burning the CD again, hope this could work :( |
| 04:10.03 | DARKGuy | by the way, that worked Phated , thanks |
| 04:10.14 | Phated | :) |
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| 04:11.51 | jmd | What's happened to DWN this month? |
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| 04:13.32 | NiCeBoY | ANy one can help me in quota please ? i aded the line "usrquota /dev/hda3 /home ext3 defaults,usrquota 0 2" in fstab and it not working well.. |
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| 04:17.35 | EdLin | jmd: in case you haven't noticed, DWN nearly got canceled because the author didn't like DUNC |
| 04:17.48 | Dewi | are all NICs able to support multiple simultaneous IP addresses? |
| 04:18.00 | Dewi | (single interface multihoming) |
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| 04:19.00 | jmd | EdLin: I see. I'd heard about the DUNC issue, but didn't know about it's effect on DWN. |
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| 04:27.31 | EnterUserName | how do you change the ip address in debian |
| 04:28.13 | maher | EnterUserName: there are many ways - i edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:28.18 | EnterUserName | ok |
| 04:28.21 | EnterUserName | thank yo u |
| 04:28.31 | maher | EnterUserName: you can also install etherconf and use dpkg-reconfigure etherconf |
| 04:28.42 | maher | EnterUserName: gnome and kde have guis that do that too |
| 04:28.56 | EnterUserName | oh ok maher the interfaces was what i was looking for thank you ;) |
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| 04:43.29 | jmd | Packages is down too. |
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| 05:15.07 | bathat | hi |
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| 05:15.18 | bathat | my sound chip isn't working |
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| 05:15.33 | bathat | i haven't used this motherboard for awhile but the sound driver always used to work |
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| 05:16.03 | bathat | i load the module (snd-intel8x0) but there's no sound |
| 05:16.32 | Supaplex | mixer? speakers? audio jack? something to play at it? |
| 05:16.39 | bathat | and alsamixer just returns "no such device" |
| 05:16.50 | bathat | yep, headphones and speakers |
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| 05:17.52 | joejaxx | hello all i have a question about dpkg-divert |
| 05:18.34 | Supaplex | !dpkg-divert |
| 05:18.39 | joejaxx | how do i remove one? |
| 05:18.44 | bathat | also, alsaconf doesn't pick up any applicable drivers, which it always used to do |
| 05:18.44 | Supaplex | what's it do? |
| 05:18.47 | joejaxx | Supaplex: i doubt that is on the bot |
| 05:18.55 | mc_ | bathat, module definitely loaded? lsmod|grep snd.intel8x0 |
| 05:19.08 | joejaxx | Supaplex: diverts one debian packages configs with your own |
| 05:19.12 | bathat | yes |
| 05:19.15 | bathat | it's loaded alright |
| 05:19.37 | mc_ | cat /proc/asound/cards ? |
| 05:20.06 | bathat | no soundcards |
| 05:20.06 | mc_ | is it listed? |
| 05:20.13 | bathat | cat /dev/sndstat displays the same |
| 05:20.54 | joejaxx | dpkg-divert --remove --rename --divert /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config.real /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config |
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| 05:20.59 | joejaxx | is supposed to work |
| 05:21.08 | joejaxx | but it does not |
| 05:21.08 | mc_ | bathat, anything in syslog? |
| 05:21.12 | onetinsoldier | lspci -vv ...? |
| 05:21.19 | Supaplex | !paste |
| 05:21.19 | dpkg | somebody said paste was Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 05:21.20 | Supaplex | :P |
| 05:21.42 | joejaxx | is anyone here a maintainer? i whould really need to talk to them |
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| 05:21.52 | bathat | no |
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| 05:22.15 | joejaxx | is there a maintainer's channel? |
| 05:23.07 | onetinsoldier | bathat: does it show up at in the ouput of lspic -vv ...? |
| 05:23.09 | Supaplex | maintain what? |
| 05:23.10 | Supaplex | !wiki |
| 05:23.22 | Supaplex | try the debian wiki instead. |
| 05:23.24 | bathat | onetinsoldier: well, the sound and video are both on one chip |
| 05:23.26 | joejaxx | Supaplex: really you can stop with the bot triggers |
| 05:23.30 | bathat | i810 graphics/multimedia |
| 05:23.34 | onetinsoldier | bathat: oh |
| 05:23.43 | joejaxx | Supaplex: Debian Package Maintainers |
| 05:23.55 | mc_ | u could try manually unloading it and reloading it so see if anything appears in syslog. modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 first then modprobe |
| 05:23.59 | joejaxx | the people who put together the debian packages you apt-get |
| 05:24.21 | Supaplex | why harass the maintainers when it's in the wiki? |
| 05:24.39 | bathat | mc_: i've tried that, but didn't check syslog afterward |
| 05:25.18 | Supaplex | seems like months ago i got sound issues fixed by digging in there. If it's a bug then they get my attention from a bug report. or a patch etcetc |
| 05:25.24 | bathat | nothing appears in syslog |
| 05:25.24 | joejaxx | Supaplex: because it is not there |
| 05:26.24 | bathat | supposedly this chip is very well supported under linux |
| 05:26.38 | bathat | and it's always worked great in the past |
| 05:27.02 | mc_ | bathat, fwiw I have a similar chip in my laptop. intel 855 chipset |
| 05:27.07 | bathat | there's no way to disable onboard graphics in my bios |
| 05:27.08 | mc_ | and it works fine. |
| 05:27.21 | bathat | so there's no way it's been disabled |
| 05:27.27 | bathat | yeah |
| 05:28.36 | Supaplex | joejaxx: ok. I was barking up the alsa tree last time. It's always worked since then, so I guess I don't remember anything. cept it works. :-) |
| 05:28.56 | Supaplex | joejaxx: best of luck |
| 05:29.18 | joejaxx | Supaplex: ok |
| 05:29.21 | joejaxx | thanks |
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| 05:29.36 | freeone3000 | !nvidia one-liner |
| 05:29.36 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
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| 05:33.44 | mc_ | bathat, there are some module params you could try buggy_irq=1 and buggy_semaphore=1 |
| 05:33.59 | mc_ | but if you didn't need them before... |
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| 05:40.18 | glick | hey has anyone else here had the problem of avi sound and video being out of sync? |
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| 05:41.18 | glick | is that just a bad avi file |
| 05:41.28 | glick | or some option i have to pass to my media player |
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| 05:43.29 | onetinsoldier | i would think it's just a bad avi file, but i can't say i know for certain. what medai player are you using? |
| 05:43.42 | onetinsoldier | media* |
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| 05:49.58 | cj | you guys done with 4.0 yet? |
| 05:50.02 | cj | and gals |
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| 05:52.37 | onetinsoldier | done? |
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| 05:53.03 | onetinsoldier | do you mean... is 4.0 the stable version now? |
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| 05:54.29 | cj | yeah, that :) |
| 05:55.08 | cj | heh :) |
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| 05:55.13 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 05:55.22 | onetinsoldier | i think it's very close now, but no |
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| 05:55.53 | onetinsoldier | 3.1r4 is the stable version at the moment |
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| 05:58.38 | orchid | ty dondelelcaro |
| 05:58.58 | sanmarcos | dondelelcaro strikes again where el caro is |
| 05:59.03 | onetinsoldier | yeah.... i don't know what that guy was up to, but i know it was no good |
| 05:59.25 | onetinsoldier | ty |
| 05:59.31 | cast | anyone know a decent room for fortran help? |
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| 06:00.04 | oOGneaOo | #fortran? |
| 06:00.24 | cast | oh. there are two people there, last time i checked it was empty |
| 06:00.44 | Guerin | cast: you're surprised? |
| 06:01.03 | cast | there has to be a populated fortran room somewhere :x |
| 06:01.06 | cj | Guerin: Guerin Austin is now a host on a TV show |
| 06:01.12 | cast | unless they're all on usenet |
| 06:01.35 | sanmarcos | riiiiiiiiiiiiight |
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| 06:02.33 | Guerin | cj: i have absolutely no idea what you're on about |
| 06:02.42 | Guerin | cj: why? |
| 06:02.45 | Guerin | bah |
| 06:02.48 | Guerin | cast: why? |
| 06:02.49 | freeone3000 | Hey, #Pascal has people, too. |
| 06:03.06 | freeone3000 | Casting? Who needs casting? We don't need no stinkin' casting! |
| 06:03.06 | Guerin | cast: /msg toresbe Guerin told me to ask you about fortran |
| 06:04.45 | cast | Guerin: why is i have a project revolving around fortran, and i've never written anything in it before. scary stuff. |
| 06:05.25 | oOGneaOo | cast: sometimes you have to wait. |
| 06:05.30 | Guerin | cast: because your boss hates you and is playing a cruel trick on you |
| 06:05.57 | cj | Guerin: remember the chick who was Miss Nebraska? |
| 06:06.00 | cj | Guerin: her name is Guerin |
| 06:06.09 | cj | Guerin: and every time I see you I remember her. |
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| 06:07.45 | Guerin | cj: why the fuck would I know/care about miss nebraska? |
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| 06:07.58 | oOGneaOo | Guerin: http://www.geocities.com/missusamagici/nebraskaSS04.jpg |
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| 06:08.22 | oOGneaOo | funny, that's the first time i heard of it |
| 06:08.31 | Guerin | well, at least she doesn't have fake tits |
| 06:08.37 | oOGneaOo | yeah |
| 06:08.38 | oOGneaOo | :) |
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| 06:11.50 | cast | i wonder if this is the time of day when all the people needing help are sleeping, or out with their gfs |
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| 06:13.49 | NiCeBoY | hi anyone can tell me how to setup cgi-bin please??? |
| 06:15.06 | oOGneaOo | NiCeBoY: why? |
| 06:15.19 | NiCeBoY | because i need it |
| 06:15.25 | oOGneaOo | elaborate. |
| 06:15.26 | NiCeBoY | to run qmail servers.. |
| 06:15.33 | NiCeBoY | i have apache2 installed |
| 06:15.37 | oOGneaOo | in that case, no. |
| 06:15.39 | NiCeBoY | but i dont have cgi-bin. |
| 06:15.59 | oOGneaOo | then you'll need to read apache's manual |
| 06:16.03 | oOGneaOo | or ask in #apache |
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| 06:16.23 | oOGneaOo | we don't support specific applications here that have their own dedicated channel |
| 06:16.56 | NiCeBoY | ok |
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| 06:18.31 | oOGneaOo | ? |
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| 06:20.24 | cast | i can give you a choice of questions to go with your question mark...'what does gnaa mean?' or 'how is oOGnaaOo at all like oOGneaOo?' |
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| 06:22.36 | oOGneaOo | cast: no, i hold no affiliation whatsoever with 'gnaa' |
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| 06:22.53 | oOGneaOo | end of story. |
| 06:23.35 | cast | yes, i know :> |
| 06:23.57 | oOGneaOo | :) |
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| 06:29.28 | cast | damn. something black just ran underneath my computer |
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| 06:35.30 | stranger_stone | Hello |
| 06:35.41 | onetinsoldier | hi |
| 06:35.46 | stranger_stone | someone knows some bin2iso that works on linux?! :| |
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| 06:35.54 | cast | what does bin2iso do |
| 06:36.07 | stranger_stone | convert files .bin to .iso :| |
| 06:36.12 | cast | what's a .bin? |
| 06:36.13 | stranger_stone | dah o0 0o |
| 06:36.18 | onetinsoldier | a binary file! |
| 06:36.32 | LunarCrisis | a dumb name for a file format |
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| 06:36.44 | stranger_stone | ermmm one .bin .cue is one format is like you have on all cd inside one file sothere are manys file types of that |
| 06:36.48 | onetinsoldier | you know... the things in /usr/bin |
| 06:36.48 | stranger_stone | ngr iso .bin |
| 06:36.57 | cast | just trying to grasp why anyone would store a iso as anything other than a bit for bit copy of the cd/dvd. aside from maybe adding compression |
| 06:37.07 | gan | i'm freher 2 linux i dont know 2 choose the fields . the fields r |
| 06:37.09 | stranger_stone | and i have onefile.bin .cue that i liketo putit in .iso to i can extract the informationthere :\ |
| 06:37.18 | cilkay | Is there something like chkconfig in Debian? |
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| 06:37.21 | LunarCrisis | cast, isn't that what a .iso is? |
| 06:37.32 | cast | LunarCrisis: yes. but apparently .bin isn't |
| 06:37.42 | LunarCrisis | ah |
| 06:37.46 | cilkay | And is there something like "service foo start|stop|restart"? |
| 06:37.48 | gan | live cd , install cd, localisation |
| 06:37.49 | stranger_stone | lol |
| 06:37.56 | quintin | Anyone here have a recent version of teamspeak client? |
| 06:38.00 | cast | cilkay: aye, /etc/init.d/apache start|stop |
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| 06:38.03 | quintin | their download sites are not working |
| 06:38.31 | DimmuR | I've installed bluez* packages and i have paired comuputer to phone - how can i access data stored on phone? |
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| 06:38.37 | cilkay | cast: yeah, does the same thing but not quite as convenient. I also notice Debian init scripts typically don't have a "status" option. |
| 06:38.50 | stranger_stone | i allready try 3 ou 5 bin2iso and nooneworks :\ someone knows somegood bin2iso that works? :| |
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| 06:39.24 | cast | LunarCrisis: i'm just curious as to how else one would store an iso |
| 06:39.52 | cast | LunarCrisis: or, i mean. the information present inorder to burn a cd |
| 06:39.53 | oOGneaOo | stranger_stone: how do you know that it doesn't work? |
| 06:39.55 | LunarCrisis | hmm, from wikipedia: "The .BIN file contains an exact copy of all data stored on an optical disk in raw, unprocessed form. (. . .)Other formats, such as .ISO, do not store all this (mostly redundant) information, resulting in a smaller file. The .BIN format is useful for exotic disks, such as those containing multiple tracks or mixed track types (Audio+Data or Data+Audio), and for non-PC CDs (e.g. PSX, VCD, Mac)." |
| 06:40.15 | stranger_stone | cast well you can store what you want in one .iso isliek you save on cdrom ou dvd to onesinglefile |
| 06:40.18 | LunarCrisis | interesting |
| 06:40.31 | gan | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.33 | oOGneaOo | yeah, bin/cue is direct |
| 06:40.44 | stranger_stone | oOGneaOo because i allready make the tests lol and gives tome unknowisoformats even whoth k3b |
| 06:40.52 | LunarCrisis | that's from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_image#.BIN.2F.CUE |
| 06:40.54 | cast | hmm. so can you mount them on the -o loop, or burn them directly with cdrecord? |
| 06:41.12 | oOGneaOo | stranger_stone: you can't mount the resulting iso with a loop device? |
| 06:41.53 | stranger_stone | oOGneaOo nonono i just want one (file.bin file.cue) transform to file.iso |
| 06:42.10 | oOGneaOo | stranger_stone: right. |
| 06:42.17 | stranger_stone | iallready try somesoftwares to do that but gives tomeiso mistakes uncompatbility :| |
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| 06:43.01 | oOGneaOo | stranger_stone: again, you can't mount the resulting .iso file made from the bin/cue file on a loop device? mount -o loop file.iso /dir |
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| 06:43.38 | stranger_stone | oOGneaOo the problem is i don`t have one .iso file i have file1.bin |
| 06:43.47 | stranger_stone | so i need the file1.iso |
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| 06:44.12 | oOGneaOo | do you have file1.cue? |
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| 06:45.13 | stranger_stone | yes that itttttttttt :) |
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| 06:47.00 | wolaoba | . |
| 06:47.00 | centrx | .. |
| 06:47.08 | wolaoba | anyone here using abiword? |
| 06:47.09 | ArtVandalae | stranger_stone, there's a program for converting bin/cue -> iso, and then you can mount the ISO, let me find the program... |
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| 06:47.33 | ArtVandalae | stranger_stone, the program is called bchunk |
| 06:47.37 | litage | i have 2 separate boxes (202.168.41.222 and .238), each running a copy of DJB's tinydns and both using the exact same data.cdb . when i run `dig @202.168.41.222 www.voxpak.com` the proper results are returned. why would `dig @202.168.41.238 www.voxpak.com` result in tinydns on the 2nd box saying it's not authoritative for www.voxpak.com? |
| 06:47.49 | ArtVandalae | stranger_stone, and then type the command: bchunk image.bin image.cue image.iso |
| 06:48.04 | stranger_stone | ArtVandalae very thanks :) |
| 06:48.23 | wolaoba | or is it many thanks? |
| 06:48.26 | stranger_stone | i hopethis one works because the others 3 o5 don`t lol |
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| 06:49.53 | stranger_stone | wowww there are fireburner to linux :| |
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| 06:58.58 | mybb | is there iso-scan components in the debian installer of Etch? |
| 06:59.22 | mybb | I'm install Etch from HDD, but when load debian installer,there's no iso-scan choice |
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| 07:06.27 | jooopyme | Hi, I have 'Allow compname' and 'Allow 192.168.2.54' the first get permission denid and the second works? |
| 07:06.31 | jooopyme | I have name resolution when pinging compname, also this is the error [Wed Dec 27 08:42:33 2006] [error] [client 192.168.2.54] client denied by server configuration: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/control |
| 07:09.06 | renjith171 | wat all are d debian distro OS available |
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| 07:09.47 | ArtVandalae | renjith171, you'll find your answer at www.distrowatch.com |
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| 07:14.04 | peterrooney | i'm trying to control system volume on command line, but cam/aumix &c have no effect |
| 07:14.37 | oOGneaOo | peterrooney: what audio driver are you using? |
| 07:15.28 | Lakez | they really need to get smartmontools updated to the latest version... the current version doesn't support any newer disks .. at least not mine. Installing from sourceforge works flawlessly :)( |
| 07:16.34 | oOGneaOo | Lakez: in what branch? |
| 07:16.56 | Lakez | etch |
| 07:17.00 | peterrooney | oOGneaOo: alsa |
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| 07:22.07 | jocx | !pastebin |
| 07:22.08 | dpkg | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or if you want to upload an entire file, you can use http://pastebin.ca/upload.php, or or pipe your output to curl -i# -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=`whoami` -F paste=Send http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php | grep '^Loc' |
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| 07:36.17 | mybb | please tell me, could sarge be installed from HDD? |
| 07:36.39 | jair | really quick question guys, if I sometimes back up ext3 on debian and other Linux distributions works with not problems, what will happen if I configure the ext3 in a volume group and use the ext3 as logical volumes? does this will change completely? |
| 07:37.13 | jair | mybb: you mean install debian sarge in the second drive of course you can |
| 07:37.18 | oOGneaOo | peterrooney: alsamixer |
| 07:37.26 | jair | mybb: you want to have dual boot? |
| 07:37.46 | oOGneaOo | jair: probably |
| 07:37.47 | jair | I will recommend test vmware workstation or server which are free to download |
| 07:38.27 | jair | oOGneaOo: is that a german word gneao :) |
| 07:38.57 | oOGneaOo | jair: do you have some crack i could buy? :) |
| 07:38.59 | jair | oOGneaOo: so then you think i will be able to back up using ghost then |
| 07:39.47 | oOGneaOo | jair: no, if you use your ext3 partition as part of a lvm logical group, then it's likely that you'll toast the files on there. use the partition for one thing and one thing only at a time. |
| 07:40.04 | oOGneaOo | you could damage the disk that way too |
| 07:40.05 | sep | jair, depends on how you do the backup, usualy no, if you do a filesystem backup (tar or similar) nothing should change, if you do a device backup then you must use the new logical volume device, other then that, it should be similar |
| 07:40.30 | jair | ohh |
| 07:41.02 | jair | the thing is I currently create images of the whole installation of ext3 regular partition configuration of debian |
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| 07:41.39 | sep | jair, you mean you create a image from ./dev/hda1 ? |
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| 07:42.21 | sep | if you want to create image from a logical volume you'd do it the same way, but you'd create the image from /dev/vg_debian/lv_logical_volume_name |
| 07:42.35 | sep | or the /dev/mapper/vg-lv naming |
| 07:42.44 | jair | example: 'root=/'ext3 <--- everything on it "home" "opt" "var" etc.. and a second partition for "/swap" on this partitioning I make back ups using the ghost application. |
| 07:42.49 | gradad | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 07:42.50 | gradad | W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 07:42.52 | gradad | A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 07:42.53 | gradad | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 07:43.06 | gradad | got the above when i try to update. what to do? |
| 07:43.25 | sep | jair, oh... i have no idea how ghost does it. but it you ghost the entire disk. i'd assume it would work. you should test it before relying on it tho :) |
| 07:43.29 | jair | sep: right I see |
| 07:43.47 | jair | yes i will |
| 07:43.52 | liable | gradad: install/upgrade debian-archive-keyring |
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| 07:44.14 | gradad | liable: thks, will try that. |
| 07:44.22 | jair | but the reason why i am using ghost now is because I can do a multicast installation on the other 20 Thinkcentres on the place I manage |
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| 07:47.09 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 07:47.16 | gradad | .liable: same problem after upgrading debian-archive-keyring. |
| 07:47.19 | bintut | anyone here uses bind9 on debian? |
| 07:47.32 | gradad | liable: same problem after upgrading debian-archive-keyring. |
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| 07:48.25 | bintut | my debian server is having 2 interfaces, eth0 for external and eth1 for internal.. i setup bind9 just to expect queries and connections only from its eth1 interface. how will i do that? |
| 07:48.31 | liable | gradad: hrm, the bad sig or missing key? |
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| 07:49.08 | liable | gradad: i dunno what to do about the bad sig, but that shoulda fixed your missing key one |
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| 07:49.40 | gradad | liable: which 'bad sig' r u referring to? |
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| 07:50.24 | liable | gradad: you pasted it.. |
| 07:50.31 | bintut | how will i set my bind9 in such a way that it will only listen on eth1? |
| 07:50.58 | liable | gradad: if you still have the missing key, /msg dpkg 2006 key and substitute the key numbers in that factoid |
| 07:51.09 | oOGneaOo | bintut: tell it to listen only on the ip attached to eth1 |
| 07:51.38 | sep | bintut, perhaps a "listen-on" statement in /etc/bind/named.conf.options , man named.conf for the suntax |
| 07:51.56 | gradad | liable: ok, let me figure out what's happening first. |
| 07:51.57 | stranger_stone | sorry my newbie question but what is the command to i mount the windows partition? :\ |
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| 07:52.24 | bintut | oOGneaOo: how will i set it to listen only on eth1 interface? i'm new to debian by the way.. |
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| 07:53.22 | sep | mount /device/node /mount/point you might want to add a -t fstype if it is unable to autodetect it. |
| 07:53.24 | oOGneaOo | bintut: i just told you how. you'll need to do the research on bind9 yourself. try reading the pdf manual on the bind9 website, it will explain in great detail. |
| 07:53.34 | bintut | sep: i did it already but whenever i check the windows workstation using the nslookup command, it's points out that the ip address of the dns server is the eth0 and not the eth1 |
| 07:53.45 | stranger_stone | duno what immake bad but ok :| |
| 07:53.46 | zenwryly | I just installed python-paste and it gave me a "INFO: using old version '/usr/bin/python2.3'" message, but I need it installed using 2.4. Can anyone tell me how to tell it to use python 2.4. |
| 07:53.52 | LunarCrisis | does anyone know how to tell "convert" to give output with an alpha channel? |
| 07:54.08 | oOGneaOo | bintut: by default, bind9 will listen on all ip's that it can find |
| 07:54.12 | stranger_stone | thanks sep |
| 07:54.15 | sep | bintut, how ? dont tell me you have 2 interfaces connected to the same ipaddress space ? |
| 07:54.27 | gradad | liable: i get you now. the missing key had been fixed but the BADSIG is not. |
| 07:56.12 | liable | gradad: ok, try another mirror and see if the badsig goes away |
| 07:56.22 | sep | bintut, you can use the netstat -plon to check what interface named is listening on |
| 07:57.12 | bintut | sep: yes.. i have on the same physical network segment.. |
| 07:57.26 | bintut | sep: ok.. i'll check it out.. |
| 07:57.28 | sep | bintut, thats pointless and confusing. |
| 07:57.38 | bintut | sep: i'm testing.. |
| 07:57.58 | sep | bintut, and it will most likely send replies out eth0 even if it only listen on eth1 |
| 07:58.22 | sep | bintut, remove one of the interfaces. |
| 07:58.51 | sep | bintut, or rather it might send replies out whatever interface is first in the routing table |
| 07:59.04 | sep | m afk |
| 07:59.47 | bintut | sep: you're right.. |
| 08:00.01 | bintut | sep: i must separate them.. |
| 08:00.07 | bintut | sep: i'll check.. |
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| 08:00.33 | bintut | sep: because, eth0 and eth1 has different ip addresses but they're on the same physical network.. |
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| 08:01.56 | bintut | sep: we're just testing here.. so that workstations that gets an ip addresses from the debian dns/dhcp server that i just setup and will be the gateway at the same time to the ip network connected to eth0.. |
| 08:03.56 | gradad | liable: tried another mirror. same problem. it is at http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release. |
| 08:04.12 | gradad | something is wrong with the content there. |
| 08:04.15 | stranger_stone | is the windows partion no writeble from debian? |
| 08:04.25 | liable | gradad: kinda ironic :) |
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| 08:04.58 | gradad | yeh :P |
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| 08:05.56 | gradad | liable: there is only one site for 'security'? |
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| 08:08.16 | liable | gradad: kinda yeah, theres a few machines iirc but all from the same domain name. |
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| 08:09.05 | gradad | liable: its ok then, thks. |
| 08:09.12 | YogSothoth | hi |
| 08:09.18 | YogSothoth | i'm trying to delete all sessions older than 1 hour but it does not delete anything: sudo find /tmp -type f -name "*sess*" -cmin 60 -exec rm {} \; |
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| 08:09.24 | YogSothoth | What's wrong with my command? |
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| 08:10.08 | onetinsoldier | stranger_stone: no, you cannot write to ntfs from linux |
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| 08:10.28 | liable | yes you can, but not suggested |
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| 08:11.15 | onetinsoldier | ok... not recommended then |
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| 08:12.52 | liable | gradad: dig security.debian.org and try the ip's |
| 08:13.01 | liable | bah |
| 08:13.56 | sanmarcos | where does debian keep ssl certs by default? |
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| 08:15.46 | liable | sanmarcos: /usr/lib/ssl/certs (i think) |
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| 08:21.29 | sanmarcos | liable: /etc/ssl/certs |
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| 08:22.48 | liable | right for apache certs? |
| 08:22.49 | pstickne | my fat32 USB drive is sooooo horribly fragmented. I wish I had enough space to transfer out the data (250GB :-/) |
| 08:23.18 | streuner | delete the pr0n! :-) |
| 08:23.26 | liable | no way! |
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| 08:25.38 | liable | stupid gnome, i changed my TZ but it still shows the old one.. |
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| 08:26.24 | pstickne | liable, restart it. |
| 08:26.34 | sanmarcos | kill gnome panel |
| 08:26.36 | pstickne | liable, programs like to cache things |
| 08:26.42 | liable | i just booted |
| 08:26.50 | liable | i changed it yesterday |
| 08:27.08 | sanmarcos | try changing it with the gnome tool |
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| 08:27.32 | liable | funny thing is, it changed, then i suspended the box, then it changed back, so i suspect its the suspending thats fuxored things |
| 08:27.53 | liable | i couldnt find the gnome thing last time i looked |
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| 08:28.31 | liable | hrm, i still cant |
| 08:28.36 | sanmarcos | you have to have the gnome system tools thingie installed |
| 08:28.44 | sanmarcos | usually you can just right click the clock applet and change it from there |
| 08:29.31 | liable | doesnt gimme the option here |
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| 08:30.44 | zenwryly | I just installed python-paste and it gave me a "INFO: using old version '/usr/bin/python2.3'" message, but I need it installed using 2.4. Can anyone tell me how to tell it to use python 2.4? |
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| 08:31.14 | liable | oooh, my clock was out by 7000 seconds :/ |
| 08:31.22 | cast | zenwryly: i put #!/usr/bin/env python2.4 at the start personally |
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| 08:31.53 | liable | which strangley was the difference in time zones.. |
| 08:31.59 | ttl_work | greetings |
| 08:32.04 | liable | !7000/60/60 |
| 08:32.04 | dpkg | 1.944444444444 |
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| 08:32.12 | liable | how odd |
| 08:32.34 | ttl_work | the spell check option seems to be gone in xchat v2.6.8-0.2 |
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| 08:32.49 | North64 | I am using the Debian Netinstall CD, and it doesn't recognize my onboard NIC (Realtek RTL8201BL), and I don't have a floppy drive on that machine to install a driver (mobo manufacturer doesn't provide one anyway). What are my options, if any, to actually install Debian on this machine? |
| 08:33.00 | zenwryly | cast: at the start of what? |
| 08:33.01 | liable | it spell checks in l337 now :) |
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| 08:33.35 | liable | North64: which installer version? |
| 08:33.56 | North64 | liable: just downloaded it a couple of days ago, don't really have a number atm |
| 08:34.38 | cast | zenwryly: the first line of the program. |
| 08:34.43 | liable | North64: i thought the realtecks were fairly well supported, but theres 2 kernels on the sarge one, and the etch kernels are *much* newer |
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| 08:35.04 | zenwryly | cast: but that would entail making local modifications to package installed files |
| 08:35.17 | zenwryly | I was hoping for a way to direct *Debian* to use 2.4 instead of 2.3 |
| 08:35.23 | plutonas | hello i installed something with aptitude yesterday- i ussually use apt-get, and it said these packages are and unused and will be removed, ok? (there were a lot of packages) i said ok, as i thought that they are unused... but today i noticed that i have no sound, how can i fix it again? |
| 08:35.48 | Chandu | plutonas, Is it on etch |
| 08:36.04 | North64 | liable: come to think of it, it's the amd64 netinstall |
| 08:36.06 | Chandu | plutonas, If so , install alsa-utils and alsa-base |
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| 08:36.15 | liable | plutonas: dont chop and change between apt-get and aptitude, aptitude sometimes goes bananas and removes loads of stuff |
| 08:36.19 | plutonas | Chandu: no on stable |
| 08:36.25 | cast | zenwryly: how did you install python-paste? from a debian repo? |
| 08:36.30 | liable | North64: theres still two versions of that :) |
| 08:36.42 | liable | North64: try #debian-amd64 too though |
| 08:36.52 | North64 | liable: will do, thanks |
| 08:37.09 | plutonas | Chandu: they are both installed |
| 08:37.15 | zenwryly | cast: with apt, let me find the source it took it from |
| 08:37.16 | YogSothoth | got it, it's +60, not just 60 |
| 08:37.27 | liable | plutonas: reinstall the stuff it removed i guess |
| 08:37.43 | North64 | eh, 27 ppl in #debian-amd64, maybe Debian isn't the distro to use if I want to run a 64bit version? |
| 08:37.45 | zenwryly | cast: yeah from debian official |
| 08:37.59 | plutonas | liable: how can i find out what it removed? |
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| 08:38.15 | cast | zenwryly: i just found it curious. anyway, point /usr/bin/python at python2.4 perhaps? it is how it is on my system, [etc], i have 2.3 and 2.4 installed |
| 08:38.28 | cast | [etch]* |
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| 08:38.47 | streuner | North64: this isn't the channel you should ask for such questions :-) |
| 08:38.49 | liable | plutonas: /var/log/aptitude.log |
| 08:38.59 | tato | i'm looking for a linux friendly laptop... less than $1k, less than 6 pounds, with good battery life (4-5 hours), comfortable keyboard, |
| 08:39.03 | zenwryly | cast: /usr/bin/python is python 2.4 for me |
| 08:39.06 | tato | and advice? |
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| 08:39.17 | plutonas | tato: thinkpad |
| 08:39.30 | liable | North64: the general consensus is that its a waste of time unless you have a pressing need for 64bit |
| 08:39.37 | tato | thinkpads for less than $1k? |
| 08:39.55 | liable | from ebay maybe |
| 08:39.55 | Habbie | tato, student-discounted macbook |
| 08:40.43 | plutonas | liable: and how can i install from that list? |
| 08:40.43 | liable | tato: find one you like, then check tuxmobil.org and linux-laptop.net |
| 08:40.55 | plutonas | tato: i got mine for 980e |
| 08:40.58 | liable | plutonas: you need to do it manually |
| 08:41.10 | tato | those websites aren't very reliable |
| 08:41.13 | plutonas | liable: this are ~500 packets |
| 08:41.40 | liable | plutonas: thats what happens when you let aptitude remove 500 packages :P |
| 08:41.58 | liable | plutonas: didnt you think that it was a bit unusual? |
| 08:42.42 | liable | plutonas: in future, if you change between apt-get and aptitude, and aptitude wants to do that again, purge it and reinstall it |
| 08:42.49 | plutonas | yes but it said they were unused |
| 08:43.16 | liable | like i said, it goes a bit nuts if you change between the two |
| 08:43.19 | North64 | liable: "need" is relative I suppose, but at the same time today's hardware supports 64-bit, and it's not unreasonable to assume that the software does too. Though I agree that it's likely more a matter of principle rather than actual performance gains. |
| 08:43.23 | cast | zenwryly: doh. nfi. :( |
| 08:44.13 | liable | North64: i guess the lack of interest in it shows the general consensus :/ |
| 08:44.23 | zenwryly | cast: nfi? |
| 08:44.28 | cast | zenwryly: no fucking idea |
| 08:44.41 | zenwryly | cast: duh. Sorry. |
| 08:44.46 | zenwryly | cast: thanks for your time |
| 08:44.55 | Chandu | plutonas, ok on sarge ..then also u install alsa-utils and alsa-base , and install alsa-modules (i.e driver) of the kernel version u r using |
| 08:45.50 | liable | plutonas: you'll prolly find that theres a few meta packages that will pull in most of those apps, have you rebooted since aptitude removed them? |
| 08:46.22 | plutonas | Chandu: there are only for 2.4 versions |
| 08:46.28 | plutonas | i use 2.6.16 |
| 08:46.34 | plutonas | liable: yes i did |
| 08:46.42 | cast | 'Cinelerra is more stable in a 64 bit operating system than a 32 bit operating system. The reason is intermediate address calculations start screwing up at around 512MB on a 32 bit system. Multiplying and adding small registers can wrap around even 512MB numbers and that's what we're especially seeing with memory intensive floating point images.' that's one reason i want 64bit |
| 08:47.04 | Chandu | plutonas, ok , u can install alsa-utils and alsa-base from stable |
| 08:47.11 | pumpkin0 | tato: depending on where on this planet you are ... http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/ |
| 08:47.13 | liable | cast: and thats a fair and good reason for it |
| 08:47.33 | plutonas | liable: i dont want all the packages back i only want sound |
| 08:47.42 | Chandu | plutonas, and for modules , u install alsa-driver source package |
| 08:47.47 | liable | plutonas: run alsaconf and see what happens |
| 08:47.50 | Chandu | plutonas, install module-init-tools |
| 08:48.05 | liable | cast: eh? why alsa source? |
| 08:48.09 | Chandu | plutonas, build the module for the particular kernel using "m-a i-a" |
| 08:48.19 | cydork | Chandu: alsa-modules are not needed for 2.6 kernels |
| 08:48.25 | cydork | !alsa one-liner |
| 08:48.25 | dpkg | methinks alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels, or some applications don't know how to talk directly to alsa, so "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and "echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules" to provide the oss compatibility layer |
| 08:48.27 | cydork | plutonas: ^^ |
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| 08:48.44 | liable | wtf, alsaconf isnt a package |
| 08:48.44 | Chandu | cydork, yup , right |
| 08:48.49 | Chandu | cydork, I got confused |
| 08:48.59 | Chandu | plutonas, What cydork told is right |
| 08:49.17 | Chandu | plutonas, U dont need alsa modules , just install alsa-base alsa-utils and alsaconf |
| 08:49.45 | Chandu | plutonas, u can read the dpkg mesg over there , by cydork |
| 08:49.53 | plutonas | Chandu: i have them already |
| 08:49.57 | liable | !alsa one-liner ~=s/&& alsaconf// |
| 08:50.19 | plutonas | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 08:50.34 | plutonas | what does this mean? |
| 08:51.06 | liable | meh, my bot foo is slipping again.. |
| 08:51.36 | liable | ah, missed a space |
| 08:51.43 | Guerin | plutonas: it means alsa isn't weorking. /m,sg dpkg audio |
| 08:52.22 | plutonas | debian:/home/plutonas# dpkg audio |
| 08:52.22 | plutonas | dpkg: need an action option |
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| 08:53.22 | pumpkin0 | plutonas: write into this channel: "/msg dpkg audio", w/o " |
| 08:53.51 | plutonas | how can i search packets for files so that i find snd_ctl_open??? |
| 08:53.56 | Chandu | plutonas, Iam not sure abt that |
| 08:53.59 | plutonas | pumpkin0: w/o? |
| 08:54.11 | cydork | plutonas: without |
| 08:54.12 | pumpkin0 | plutonas: w/o = without, w/ = with |
| 08:54.37 | plutonas | pumpkin0: to teh channel /msg dpkg audio withoutT??? |
| 08:54.46 | plutonas | i dont understand |
| 08:54.55 | cast | he meant without the quotes |
| 08:54.56 | pumpkin0 | !tell plutonas about audio |
| 08:55.05 | tato | lol |
| 08:55.05 | liable | heh, much easier :) |
| 08:55.29 | pumpkin0 | Guerin: why did you want him to read that ? |
| 08:55.47 | Guerin | pumpkin0: should have some hints about setting up alsa |
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| 08:55.51 | Guerin | !audio |
| 08:55.51 | dpkg | i heard audio is ask me about <alsa one-liner> or if you are running a 2.4 kernel, <2.4 alsa one-liner> |
| 08:55.57 | Guerin | yeah, sure does |
| 08:56.24 | plutonas | pumpkin0: i am not running woddy |
| 08:56.28 | plutonas | woody* |
| 08:56.34 | pumpkin0 | Guerin: didn´t he already get the alsa one-liner ? |
| 08:56.39 | liable | the error e gave seems a little ominous though |
| 08:56.43 | Guerin | pumpkin0: didn't see. |
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| 08:57.08 | pumpkin0 | plutonas: tell Guerin. I just tried to make you query dpkg (the channel bit, not the package manager) |
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| 08:59.21 | plutonas | pumpkin0: yes but that doesnt help me... |
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| 09:00.00 | plutonas | never mind, have to go, will finish this later |
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| 09:06.27 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:06.27 | dpkg | <Glitch_Master> Have you ever gone to the very beginning of your root command history and read stuff? It's very nostalgic.. <shingouz> Glitch_Master: Yea, I noticed "let there be light" ;) |
| 09:06.27 | Guerin | heh |
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| 09:06.27 | pumpkin0 | strange, i only have something in the lines of "fuck woody; wget ftp://ftp.debian.com ..... netinstall.iso" |
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| 09:06.44 | tato | are there any command line programs named fuck? |
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| 09:07.32 | pumpkin0 | tato: there are if you write your own alias ... |
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| 09:09.46 | pstickne | cd `which rm`; ln rm fuck |
| 09:10.01 | pstickne | then you can go into /home and |
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| 09:10.08 | pstickne | 'fuck Bill' .. or something |
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| 09:10.31 | cydork | pstickne: or one can get a life :P |
| 09:10.43 | teledyn | pumpkin0: that is in your bash history?? |
| 09:10.46 | pstickne | cydork, no need to duck on that call :/ |
| 09:11.08 | cydork | pstickne: hehe |
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| 09:22.22 | rxKaffee_ | when doing `apt-get update`, I have this problem: Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Sources [1214kB] \n 99% [6 Sources bzip2 0] |
| 09:22.27 | rxKaffee_ | and it just seems to hang right there |
| 09:23.05 | rxKaffee_ | "deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main" I would assume that is the sources.list line causing trouble |
| 09:23.14 | rxKaffee_ | but I need to download a src package |
| 09:23.40 | liable | i had a similar problem the other day, just did an upgrade and it worked alright anyway |
| 09:25.26 | cydork | rxKaffee_: try another mirror.. |
| 09:25.59 | rxKaffee_ | cydork: good idea, thanks :) |
| 09:26.26 | rxKaffee_ | does the bot have a factoid for compiling kernels using deb packaging? |
| 09:26.37 | cydork | !kernel package |
| 09:26.37 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
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| 09:27.09 | rxKaffee_ | thanks again cydork |
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| 09:28.34 | H3g3m0n | @now |
| 09:28.35 | ravenbird | THERE!!!... no - nevermind, ya missed it |
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| 09:31.33 | cydork | ravenbird: shuddup |
| 09:31.34 | ravenbird | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
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| 09:33.01 | Malagmyr | how does one put a command into a variable again? like cat ${ls;} |
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| 09:33.30 | cast | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.50 | cast | oh..my bad. that's something else |
| 09:34.49 | cydork | Malagmyr: test=`ls` ? |
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| 09:35.57 | Teppich | hi |
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| 09:37.19 | oOGneaOo | damnit, dia has some shitty documentation |
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| 09:39.25 | g333k | hi, is there a DOC viewer? |
| 09:39.41 | dondelelcaro | g333k: there are quite a few. Try openoffice, antiword, wm, etc. |
| 09:39.42 | cydork | g333k: you mean .doc? |
| 09:39.54 | cydork | g333k: use catdoc :P |
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| 09:40.15 | g333k | cydork, dondelelcaro, I mean just a viewer, not editor |
| 09:40.56 | dondelelcaro | g333k: most viewers are also editors, but the last two I gave are only viewers. |
| 09:40.58 | cydork | g333k: catdoc is a viewer. |
| 09:42.45 | blondie | "wv" is a Word viewer too |
| 09:42.49 | blondie | a CLI one |
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| 09:42.55 | ^rob^ | hello |
| 09:43.16 | ^rob^ | i see that debmake became deprecate = what should i use then - any docu? |
| 09:43.26 | ^rob^ | !debmake |
| 09:43.53 | MatBoy | how is the integration of Xen in debian when it goes about apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 09:44.14 | oOGneaOo | !xen |
| 09:44.14 | dpkg | xen is probably an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. try #debian-xen on oftc.net |
| 09:44.34 | g333k | for you.. what the lightweight pdf viewer? |
| 09:44.40 | g333k | lightweightest* |
| 09:44.44 | oOGneaOo | xpdf |
| 09:44.52 | petemc | MatBoy: its got better recently, didnt you say you were compiling xen yourself? |
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| 09:45.01 | MatBoy | oOGneaOo, I know that... I'm comparing it to CentOS |
| 09:45.19 | oOGneaOo | MatBoy: so? |
| 09:45.21 | petemc | that xen factoid is wrong in that it doesnt mention VT or HVM |
| 09:45.21 | MatBoy | petemc, yep, I have it now on CentOS, but CentOS does not support own compiled kernels :S |
| 09:45.33 | oOGneaOo | so fix it :) |
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| 09:45.37 | MatBoy | oOGneaOo, I better can ask you :) |
| 09:45.45 | oOGneaOo | MatBoy: heh |
| 09:45.47 | ^rob^ | what should i use instead debmake??? |
| 09:45.56 | ^rob^ | i want to make my own rt61 package |
| 09:45.57 | ^rob^ | ??? |
| 09:45.58 | MatBoy | oOGneaOo, not fix it.... the community does not support it |
| 09:46.01 | oOGneaOo | ?!?! |
| 09:46.09 | liable | ^rob^: prolly dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 09:46.18 | petemc | MatBoy: you'll get a similar attitude from a lot of people in this channel too |
| 09:46.27 | MatBoy | petemc, why ? |
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| 09:47.00 | petemc | MatBoy: good question, i guess theres more scope for making mistakes when you compile your own stuff |
| 09:47.27 | MatBoy | petemc, no, not when you do it the right way or take a good tut |
| 09:47.31 | ^rob^ | liable: ty |
| 09:47.34 | liable | ^rob^: see the new maintainers guide |
| 09:47.49 | petemc | MatBoy: dont bother arguing with me, you're wasting your time |
| 09:47.54 | ^rob^ | liable: where is it? |
| 09:48.05 | ^rob^ | liable: can you give me a link - i can't find it |
| 09:48.07 | ^rob^ | :( |
| 09:48.16 | MatBoy | petemc, oh is it ? Why than ? I think everyone can learn it |
| 09:48.17 | g333k | cydork, dondelelcaro, these Doc viewers you said,,, are for the console mode? I think antiword is not for the X |
| 09:48.18 | liable | ^rob^: debian.org/devel |
| 09:48.31 | ^rob^ | ty |
| 09:48.33 | liable | !nm |
| 09:48.34 | dpkg | it has been said that nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 09:48.41 | petemc | MatBoy: this isnt a discussion im interested to have |
| 09:48.49 | ^rob^ | BETOOOON |
| 09:48.51 | ^rob^ | ;) |
| 09:48.55 | ^rob^ | ty liable |
| 09:49.07 | MatBoy | petemc, ah, me neither, but you came with the point :) |
| 09:49.16 | ^rob^ | i guess i was blind on debian.org |
| 09:49.18 | ^rob^ | ;) |
| 09:49.51 | petemc | MatBoy: i merely informed you of the state of the landscape here |
| 09:50.50 | RvGaTe | note to self: NEVER do "iptables -F" |
| 09:51.14 | dondelelcaro | g333k: some of them are for console, some of them work in X. |
| 09:51.43 | g333k | dondelelcaro, I want one for the XC |
| 09:51.45 | g333k | X* |
| 09:52.28 | dondelelcaro | g333k: consider antiword -p letter|gv -; FE. |
| 09:52.52 | oOGneaOo | hey are there any dia gurus around? i'm trying to get this python script to work but there's no documentation for it and i can't figure it out |
| 09:53.24 | rxKaffee_ | oOGneaOo: #python might be able to help you if all else fails |
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| 09:54.00 | yang | How can I separate two domains on exim configuration, not to get "relay not permited error" |
| 09:54.18 | oOGneaOo | rxKaffee_: they're not likely to be able to tell me how dia utilizes it |
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| 10:01.09 | cilkay | cast: FYI, sysvconfig is the package one needs to have a Red Hat like "service" interface |
| 10:02.45 | MatBoy | petemc, yeah, I'm here already for some time :) |
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| 10:12.19 | vaq | Hello, is it possible to shutdown power-ports in a APC UPS? |
| 10:12.59 | oOGneaOo | vaq: yes. |
| 10:13.11 | vaq | oOGneaOo: How? |
| 10:13.24 | oOGneaOo | vaq: unplug it from a wall socket and wait for the batteries to die. |
| 10:13.59 | vaq | oOGneaOo: well i mean unplug it from the server |
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| 10:14.16 | oOGneaOo | vaq: well if you don't want a vague answer, then don't ask a vague question. |
| 10:14.22 | vaq | sorry |
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| 10:14.45 | liable | theres software for those ups in debian |
| 10:14.54 | vaq | Well is it possible to shutdown a single power-port in a APC 1000 from the server that has the serial cable plugged in |
| 10:15.03 | vaq | liable: ye iknow. |
| 10:15.10 | oOGneaOo | first of all, why would you need to? |
| 10:15.54 | vaq | oOGneaOo: e.g. if i need to power down a switch |
| 10:15.54 | oOGneaOo | second, i don't think i've ever seen/heard of an APC having that capability, unless i missed something |
| 10:17.33 | oOGneaOo | vaq: have you checked out the apcupsd package? i'm not sure if the 1000 supports that or not... if windows can do it, i don't see why a linux client couuldn't |
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| 10:40.44 | cilkay | syslog-ng has to be uninstalled due to unsatisfied dependencies. How can find out what those dependencies are so that I can satisfy them? |
| 10:41.08 | clau85 | aptitude?? |
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| 10:41.42 | cilkay | I am using aptitude. It doesn't tell me why it has to be removed. |
| 10:42.03 | clau85 | it should show you the dependencies though |
| 10:42.12 | lastnode | i have xine-ui installed, any idea why i cant play dvds. it asks for a plugin? |
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| 10:44.10 | ArtVandalae | lastnode, to play dvds I think you need non-free software, so it isn't packaged with Debian |
| 10:45.15 | EdLin | there's a script somewhere in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread or therabouts |
| 10:45.26 | lastnode | ArtVandalae, actually it works, xine was just being icky about dvd:// for some reason |
| 10:45.31 | lastnode | when i open the .vob files directly it works fine |
| 10:45.32 | lastnode | weird |
| 10:45.32 | EdLin | to get libdvdcss. Or you can get it at marillat |
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| 10:46.42 | roadfish | when I do "dpkg -i --force-all x11-common", where is this install script that gets executed? |
| 10:46.52 | cydork | !force-all |
| 10:47.17 | dpkg | force-all means you're working against the packaging system, not with it. Sometimes packages are broken and it's necessary, but almost always it means you're doing something wrong, and are setting yourself up for bigger problems down the line. YOU NEVER NEED TO USE --force-all. EVER. You might think you do, but YOU DO NOT. Don't fucking use it. |
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| 10:48.31 | roadfish | ok, good point thanks. so I should just stick with "dkpg -i x11-common" |
| 10:48.36 | EdLin | cydork: dpkg is the master of subtlety, isn't it. :-) |
| 10:48.49 | EdLin | roadfish: or perhaps apt-get install x11-common |
| 10:48.51 | roadfish | in that case, where is the install script sitting. |
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| 10:50.49 | roadfish | EdLin: I did the apt-get first which told me to "apt-get -f install". Then, got an error and did a websearch which said do "dpkg -i --force-all x11-common". But "--force-all" which is probably a bad idea. |
| 10:51.03 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, force-all is <reply> You should never, ever have to use --force-all. If you are using unstable, and there are bugs in packages, you may need to use a specific --force option (ask me about <force-overwrite> or <confmiss>), but then you should use the precise --force option required. Using --force-depends and/or --force-conflicts is *ALWAYS* broken. Fix the offending packages or use equivs instead. |
| 10:51.04 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 10:51.05 | utrrrongeeb | Could anyone consider cleaning up dpkg's language? |
| 10:51.07 | EdLin | roadfish: what is it you're trying to accomplish? |
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| 10:51.38 | Ronin | utrrrongeeb: why? |
| 10:51.48 | roadfish | EdLin: apt-get install x11-common |
| 10:52.01 | dondelelcaro | roadfish: the web advice is almost definetly broken. If you're having a problem, /msg dpkg bat; and give us the requested information. |
| 10:52.19 | roadfish | EdLin: specifically, am trying to install new apps after not doing an upgrade in 6 months or more. |
| 10:52.20 | cydork | dondelelcaro: you removed dont fucking use it :( |
| 10:52.29 | dondelelcaro | cydork: and? |
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| 10:53.02 | cydork | roadfish: the scripts are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/. |
| 10:53.04 | EdLin | roadfish: I assume you've done a dist-upgrade in the meantime, X11 has moved to 7.x and gone modular since then. |
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| 10:53.42 | cydork | dondelelcaro: na "fucking" just sound important :P |
| 10:53.42 | teledyn | "Gerardo wrote:" WTF?? |
| 10:53.44 | roadfish | yes, I am in the process of learning about this modular X11R7 |
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| 10:54.26 | EdLin | roadfish: the easiest way of finding out what you need to download, is aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade. |
| 10:54.29 | GooE | in sendmail can i use virtusertable for forwarding ONLY mistyped usernames in email addresses like "@domain.com user" if i add this it will forward all mails including from existing users i dont want that.. |
| 10:54.45 | EdLin | roadfish: trying to upgrade sid after six months is going to otherwise end in failure |
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| 10:56.37 | dondelelcaro | you're better off using aptitude's curses interface. |
| 10:56.50 | roadfish | EdLin: thanks. I always use apt-get but I guess its time that I move to aptitude. |
| 10:56.58 | EdLin | roadfish: of course, it might end up in failure even then - that's what you get for using sid but never upgrading it. |
| 10:57.50 | EdLin | roadfish: aptitude is somewhat better at fixing dependencies, except when its worse. ;-) |
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| 10:58.19 | roadfish | EdLin: I've done upgrades after waiting for 8 months or more in the past. There's always a batch of hairy little things after an upgrade. I had forgotten where the scripts were; I had to step through the scripts after my last mega-upgrade. |
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| 10:58.43 | EdLin | roadfish: if you want a system that doesn't change for eight months, may I suggest running stable? |
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| 11:00.16 | Nazcafan | hi, I'm considering using sshfs |
| 11:00.27 | roadfish | I'm a bit lazy but I, when I want to upgrade, I want to get the latest. stable is a bit too old at times. ... I will accept the suitable punishment now. |
| 11:01.00 | dondelelcaro | GooE: virtusertable requires all of the users to be listed. |
| 11:01.06 | Nazcafan | but how comesthat nowhere in the howtos it states that I need to modprobe fuse? |
| 11:01.12 | EdLin | roadfish: stable isn't that much older than eight month old software at this point. |
| 11:01.45 | Nazcafan | EdLin: I thought stable had been released last summer |
| 11:01.53 | EdLin | roadfish: also etch is going to be released in a couple of months |
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| 11:02.25 | EdLin | Nazcafan: I don't remember exactly when, my point is that it isn't that old. :-) |
| 11:02.27 | roadfish | EdLin: ok, I didn't know that stable was keeping up nowadays. In the past, I think it dragged behind a bit more. |
| 11:03.00 | EdLin | roadfish: yeah, woody took a long time to get released. |
| 11:03.05 | EdLin | roadfish: and Sarge |
| 11:03.06 | roadfish | EdLin: I guess with my next install (which might be happening soon), I'll go with stable. |
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| 11:03.30 | GooE | dondelelcaro, btw , do you know the difference between RELAY and OK in access file ? |
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| 11:04.18 | yess | Hello. What can I do if I want to uninstall a package that fails to uninstall? |
| 11:05.14 | oOGneaOo | yess: that all depends on the error messages |
| 11:05.44 | dondelelcaro | !tell yess -about bat |
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| 11:06.16 | EdLin | oOGneaOo: what's up with the new nick? :-) |
| 11:06.24 | oOGneaOo | EdLin: piss off. :) |
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| 11:08.57 | EdLin | oOGneaOo: heh |
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| 11:09.29 | liable | oOGneaOo: thought you woulda got the old one back by now? |
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| 11:11.16 | iuso | hi. i installed sarge but rebooted before some final touches. as a result i have a working system, but it's missing some minor stuff, like keymap & locale settings loading on boot. is there an easy way to configure these? |
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| 11:11.58 | EdLin | iuso: base-config |
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| 11:12.22 | iuso | EdLin: is that a package? |
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| 11:12.50 | EdLin | iuso: you should have it - unless it's etch in which case it's gone. |
| 11:13.04 | iuso | EdLin: how do i reconfigure it? |
| 11:13.16 | EdLin | # base-config |
| 11:14.09 | iuso | yep, noticed :) |
| 11:14.13 | iuso | thanks |
| 11:14.27 | EdLin | np |
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| 11:16.18 | oOGneaOo | EdLin: either freenode has a different idea about what constitutes '60 days' or there aren't any provisions in place to automatically deal with it |
| 11:17.17 | EdLin | oOGneaOo: I lost my original nick to someone who stole it too, I didn't know (and didn't know until now) that there was any recourse. |
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| 11:19.47 | GooE | what is UUCP-addressed mail |
| 11:20.08 | oOGneaOo | !uucp |
| 11:20.08 | dpkg | it has been said that uucp is the Unix to Unix Copy Protocol, used for mail over non-permanent dialup links. a formerly widely used protocol that has been pretty much obsolesced in the face of public internet. |
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| 11:20.23 | EdLin | GooE: something you'll never see anymore. It was store-and-forward mail addressed with a bangpath. |
| 11:20.25 | RvGaTe | For some reason i am unable to ping... my server has 3 NICS, 2 being in seperate networks, 1 being the internet... whever i try to ping 66.249.85.104 (google.com), it says: From 10.0.0.1 Destination host unreachable... its trying to ping from the wrong NIC... how would i fix this? |
| 11:21.02 | oOGneaOo | RvGaTe: setup your lan correctly. |
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| 11:21.23 | liable | wrong gateway |
| 11:21.45 | RvGaTe | liable, thats a bit more usefull then oOGneaOo's reply |
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| 11:23.21 | SerajewelKS | does g++-3.3 in testing link against libstdc++5? |
| 11:23.54 | SerajewelKS | i'm getting "undefined reference to `__cxa_get_exception_ptr'" and google says that i'm probably linking against the wrong libstdc++ |
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| 11:28.18 | RvGaTe | liable, oOGneaOo: http://www.pastebin.ru/5926 my interface config and: http://www.pastebin.ru/5928 my firehol config (currently accepting everything for debugging) |
| 11:29.11 | lastnode | how do you run something from the cli and then have the terminal exit? |
| 11:29.21 | bintut | how can i explicitly set my bind9 setup to only listen to the ip address of my eth1 interface? |
| 11:29.23 | lastnode | got it |
| 11:29.24 | dondelelcaro | lastnode: exec |
| 11:29.26 | lastnode | nvm thanks |
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| 11:29.44 | lastnode | dondek, i just did app & exit |
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| 11:32.26 | liable | RvGaTe: route output? your iface file looks ok to me. |
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| 11:32.53 | RvGaTe | liable, what do you mean with route output ? |
| 11:33.21 | liable | RvGaTe: paste the output of 'route' |
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| 11:34.11 | RvGaTe | liable, hmm, default gateway is set to 10.0.0.1 |
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| 11:35.01 | RvGaTe | liable, http://www.pastebin.ru/5929 |
| 11:35.22 | nemo | question for the etch installer... I'm on a G4 powerbook which ran out of battery halfway through an hour-long download-then-install bit. there is 400+ meg of stuff in /var/cache/apt/archives ...so how I do jump myself back into the middle of the install process? |
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| 11:36.36 | EdLin | nemo: if its like Sarge, you can start it with the "expert" command and skip to the proper steps |
| 11:36.41 | bintut | what package contains the "less" command? |
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| 11:37.01 | streuner | less |
| 11:37.05 | varvar | when will etch come to us? |
| 11:37.11 | nemo | EdLin: heh. I don't think I've installed sarge since it was almost brand new ;) I'll check it out though |
| 11:37.13 | EdLin | bintut: packages.debian.org |
| 11:37.13 | streuner | !wir |
| 11:37.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 11:37.29 | streuner | !info less |
| 11:37.36 | dpkg | less: (Pager program similar to more), section text, is standard. Version: 394-4 (sid), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 268 kB |
| 11:38.10 | bintut | i believe it's under coreutils in other distribution if i'm not mistaken.. |
| 11:38.34 | liable | RvGaTe: i would guess its the netmask, but i dont really know |
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| 11:39.26 | RvGaTe | liable, you mean the netmask on eth1? thats set by dhcp... |
| 11:39.39 | EdLin | nemo: well, with sarge, it's "expert26" or "expert", with etch though even for a 2.6 kernel it'd be "expert" |
| 11:40.02 | nemo | oh ah, *that* expert. gotchya. |
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| 11:41.58 | iuso | where is the system tray applet for kde? i can't find it in unstable |
| 11:42.09 | iuso | i have kicker-applets installed |
| 11:42.14 | iuso | and kdebase... |
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| 11:43.01 | iuso | and kdeaddons |
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| 11:49.17 | mc_ | RvGaTe, you have 3 default gateways and you should just have one on eth1 |
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| 11:50.11 | RvGaTe | mc_, so i just remove the gw lines on interfaces? |
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| 11:50.44 | mc_ | RvGaTe, yeah remove the ones on eth0 and eth2 and all should be fine |
| 11:52.37 | RvGaTe | mc_, sure hope so, let me give it a try |
| 11:52.38 | mc_ | RvGaTe, route del default gw 192.168.1.1 and same for 10.0.0.1 |
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| 11:52.57 | mc_ | RvGaTe, or remove them from /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:53.22 | RvGaTe | mc_, works like a charm |
| 11:53.25 | mc_ | RvGaTe, and take the interfaces down and up |
| 11:53.33 | mc_ | RvGaTe, nice one. |
| 11:53.47 | RvGaTe | liable, mc_, thx for your help, couldn't have fix it without you guys :) |
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| 11:54.25 | unlink | how could i tunnel a dump(8) over ssh? |
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| 11:56.17 | dondelelcaro | unlink: ssh foohost 'dump -f - /usr ' > foofile; |
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| 11:58.37 | unlink | i want to dump to the remote machine |
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| 12:00.11 | unlink | dondelelcaro: and i can't ssh the other way |
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| 12:00.33 | dondelelcaro | unlink: so dump -f - /usr |ssh foohost 'cat - > foofile' |
| 12:01.16 | unlink | wow |
| 12:01.31 | unlink | amazing. thanks. |
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| 12:02.40 | jonkopa | dmesg | grep DVD |
| 12:02.42 | jonkopa | hdc: _NEC DVD+/-RW ND-3450A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 12:02.44 | jonkopa | hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) |
| 12:02.46 | jonkopa | root@hlyarurk:~# dvd+rw-format /dev/hdc |
| 12:02.50 | jonkopa | * DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by <appro@fy.chalmers.se>, version 6.1. |
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| 12:02.52 | jonkopa | :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD±RW or DVD-RAM |
| 12:02.58 | cydork | !paster |
| 12:02.58 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 12:03.08 | cydork | jonkopa: use that next time.. |
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| 12:03.33 | jonkopa | how can i format my dvd? |
| 12:04.06 | dondelelcaro | cydork: it was too slow of a paste. |
| 12:05.26 | jonkopa | i have a cdrw in my dvdrw but i can't format it |
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| 12:05.30 | dondelelcaro | jonkopa: you don't need to format it. Burning with growisofs will blank it. |
| 12:06.02 | dondelelcaro | jonkopa: if you're talking about a cdrw, you use wodim blank=fast; or similar. |
| 12:06.27 | jonkopa | no it's dvd rw |
| 12:06.36 | jonkopa | so growfs would be sufficient? |
| 12:06.46 | dondelelcaro | jonkopa: if it's a dvd rw, use growisofs with the -Z option. |
| 12:06.54 | jonkopa | gnome-baker ejects my dvd everytime i say format it |
| 12:06.57 | dondelelcaro | (just like you would if you were burning it for the first time) |
| 12:06.59 | jonkopa | why is this? |
| 12:07.11 | dondelelcaro | who knows? just use growisofs |
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| 12:33.54 | sparr | foo |
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| 12:34.11 | korkie | dondelelcaro, growisofs -Z /dev/hdc doesn't work it gives me growisofs: no mkisofs options specified, aborting |
| 12:34.40 | dondelelcaro | korkie: you have to use it correctly, of course. You want to burn a iso to this device, I assume? |
| 12:34.48 | korkie | yes |
| 12:35.18 | dondelelcaro | korkie: so growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=/path/to/your/iso |
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| 12:36.12 | bas_laptop | how can i make sure apache gives back directory listing denied when somebody types in: http://www.mydomain.com/images? |
| 12:36.45 | bas_laptop | is it not default turned on in the httpd.conf file? |
| 12:36.46 | dondelelcaro | bas_laptop: by denying Indexes in that directory. |
| 12:37.21 | bas_laptop | so i have to set it up per dir of global? |
| 12:37.37 | bas_laptop | s/of/or |
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| 12:38.06 | RvGaTe | Im trying to setup a simple gateway on a server with 3 NICS, http://pc.rvgate.nl/fotos/network_setup.jpg that's the view of the network segment im working on... The thing is, whenever a pc gets connected on the swich, after getting a dhcp reply, it can ping eth0 (192.168.1.20) eth1 (82.169.141.129) and eth2 (10.0.0.1) without any problems... going any further it just times out... This is my interface config: http://www.pastebin.ru/5931, this is |
| 12:38.06 | RvGaTe | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.11 | dondelelcaro | bas_laptop: it's up to you. |
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| 12:39.02 | bas_laptop | i want it globally. can you give me a hint ? |
| 12:39.34 | dondelelcaro | bas_laptop: if you want it globally, then don't load the dir_index module. |
| 12:42.08 | bas_laptop | dondelelcaro, that produces an internal server error... |
| 12:42.40 | dondelelcaro | if you're getting an internal server error, you've broken something else. |
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| 12:43.10 | bas_laptop | when i load the dir_index module everything is normal again |
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| 12:44.22 | RobNyc[] | !ati |
| 12:44.26 | bas_laptop | dondelelcaro, the log files do not say there is something wrong with my httpd.conf |
| 12:44.42 | dpkg | want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for sid see <fglrx>, or http://kaerpf.ethz.ch/pub/debian-local/share/kernel/fglrx-driver, or for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz |
| 12:44.44 | dondelelcaro | bas_laptop: you wouldn't be able to reload the server if there was. |
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| 12:45.00 | dondelelcaro | bas_laptop: you shouldn't get a 500 though, you should get a 403. |
| 12:45.18 | RvGaTe | anyone ? |
| 12:45.33 | nethenson | bas_laptop: do you have a .htaccess in the directory giving the error? |
| 12:45.45 | mc_ | RvGaTe, do you have ip forwarding turned on? echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 12:46.20 | mc_ | RvGaTe, cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to determine existing status |
| 12:46.44 | RvGaTe | mc_, 1 |
| 12:47.02 | dondelelcaro | RvGaTe: can the router actually ping its gateway? |
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| 12:47.32 | RvGaTe | dondelelcaro, yes, i have internet to |
| 12:47.52 | dondelelcaro | RvGaTe: and what gateway do the clients have set? |
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| 12:49.03 | bas_laptop | nethenson, no that works ok |
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| 12:50.11 | dondelelcaro | 1/away dead |
| 12:50.17 | Habbie | is perlmonk aware that his quit-message is untrue? |
| 12:50.26 | et | that's what i thought, too |
| 12:50.26 | RvGaTe | dondelelcaro, 10.0.0.1 |
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| 12:51.12 | nethenson | Habbie: I have read somewhere that is was true... |
| 12:52.25 | et | nethenson: timestamps are signed |
| 12:52.43 | Chandu | Hi |
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| 12:53.20 | Chandu | Is there any docs availabe for How to install debian with lvm partition using debian installer (Graphical) |
| 12:53.28 | rObNyC | too bad Debian doesnt have Enemy-Territory-True-Combat in repository |
| 12:53.51 | rObNyC | hello everyone, just finished installing debian .. gnome 2.16.2 .. im loving the distro .. im a newbie also |
| 12:53.55 | rObNyC | getting my hands dirty |
| 12:53.56 | RvGaTe | mc_, any idea's? |
| 12:54.16 | korkie | dondelelcaro, WARNING: /dev/hdc already carries isofs! |
| 12:54.16 | korkie | About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/home/user/tmp/mylivecd1/ubuntu-new.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' |
| 12:54.16 | korkie | /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 8.2x1385KBps. |
| 12:54.16 | korkie | :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=27h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error |
| 12:54.16 | korkie | :-( write failed: Input/output error |
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| 12:54.30 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I am not an expert on firehol but perhaps the problem lies in there. can you post the output of iptables -L -v to see if the iptables is blocking |
| 12:54.50 | bas_laptop | dondelelcaro, i commented out ' Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ' and it now works |
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| 12:54.59 | bas_laptop | thnx anyway |
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| 12:55.29 | korkie | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.ca/259399 |
| 12:56.33 | rObNyC | Debian 4.0 is sid or etch |
| 12:56.54 | Habbie | etch |
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| 12:57.10 | rObNyC | :) |
| 12:57.11 | mc_ | RvGaTe, and also iptables -L -v -t nat |
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| 12:59.31 | RvGaTe | mc_, http://pc.rvgate.nl/fotos/iptables.txt |
| 12:59.42 | rObNyC | anyone here running a X1k series ati card |
| 12:59.43 | rObNyC | video[ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600] @ Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface] |
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| 13:01.00 | mc_ | RvGaTe, for one there is no SNAT (masquerating) being done. The nat table is empty |
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| 13:01.44 | ^rob^ | i am trying to compile wpa_gui (qt3) and i get this error message |
| 13:01.46 | ^rob^ | /../hostapd -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I.ui/ -I.moc/ -o .obj/main.o main.cpp |
| 13:01.46 | ^rob^ | main.cpp:4:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory |
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| 13:02.00 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I'm afraid i don't know the syntax for firehol without spending a while reading it's man page. never used it. only normal iptables commands. |
| 13:02.23 | ^rob^ | it's a qt ishue? - what the heck should i do? |
| 13:02.35 | cydork | ^rob^: first of all why are you compiling it? second of all /msg dpkg search |
| 13:02.49 | mc_ | RvGaTe, maybe someone else here uses firehol? |
| 13:03.11 | RvGaTe | mc_, i know how to enable that |
| 13:03.25 | Chandu | cydork, How do i generate an auto message when Iam away |
| 13:03.33 | mc_ | RvGaTe, ok try that and we'll take it from there |
| 13:03.36 | ^rob^ | cydork: i have ralink rt61 driver - which has a patch for wpasupplicant |
| 13:03.38 | ^rob^ | that |
| 13:03.41 | Ronin | Chandu: on irc? please dont |
| 13:03.45 | cydork | !away |
| 13:03.45 | dpkg | Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BX, /set auto_away off; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 13:03.46 | liable | Chandu: dont do that in this channel |
| 13:03.46 | ^rob^ | 's why i compile it |
| 13:04.05 | mc_ | RvGaTe, you want SNAT on the external (eth1) ip |
| 13:04.19 | Kim^J | Hey there. Just got up a NFS-server by using this guide: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/nfs.htm. The problem is this: I can't mount it on the client PC. The client is running Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10. |
| 13:05.00 | cydork | ^rob^: well then use apt-file or p.d.o to search for that file and install that.. |
| 13:05.00 | liable | ^rob^: libqt4-dev, try apt-file in the future |
| 13:05.01 | ^rob^ | ty |
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| 13:06.10 | Kim^J | Just gets a Mount to NFS server 'IP' failed. |
| 13:06.21 | mc_ | RvGaTe, the iptables filter table you posted is huge and not very human readable so I think all futher debuggin will need to be done on the source firehol conf |
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| 13:07.12 | Chandu | liable, ok |
| 13:07.16 | tralala | Kim^J, turn off the any firewall that might be running on the server and on the client and try again |
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| 13:07.27 | santibiotico | hi |
| 13:07.49 | Kim^J | tralala: Looks like I missed some files. |
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| 13:07.55 | Kim^J | On the client. |
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| 13:08.28 | santibiotico | i'm trying to install a etch-amd64 on a amd64 am2 system with no success...is there anyone who can help me? |
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| 13:08.47 | tralala | Kim^J, all the client needs is nfs-common installed |
| 13:09.05 | Kim^J | tralala: I know, installed it. |
| 13:09.14 | korkie | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.ca/259399 |
| 13:09.17 | tralala | santibiotico, did you try to install sarge? |
| 13:09.18 | korkie | dondelelcaro, brb |
| 13:09.25 | Kim^J | How do I turn off Iptables then? |
| 13:09.40 | santibiotico | tralala, the problem with sarge is that i cannot get access to my sataII disk |
| 13:09.53 | blondie | Kim^J: you don't... iptables is just the program that controls netfilter |
| 13:09.56 | RvGaTe | mc_, when turning on masq. i get this http://www.pastebin.ru/5938 |
| 13:10.03 | tralala | santibiotico: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.18 |
| 13:10.13 | Kim^J | blondie: Ok. Howto turn off the firewall then? |
| 13:11.01 | RvGaTe | mc_, still no luck on pinging from clients tho |
| 13:11.04 | tralala | Kim^J, for this particular case : iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT; iptables -F INPUT |
| 13:11.11 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I have just read the firehol tutorial. i think i under stand i i will post an updated conf to test |
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| 13:11.27 | RvGaTe | mc_, that would be great |
| 13:11.29 | santibiotico | tralala: but i first need to install the system, and i have no way to access the disk to install sarge on it |
| 13:11.47 | ^rob^ | i got same error |
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| 13:12.15 | mc_ | RvGaTe, do you have any servers running accessible from the outside. e.g. web, dns, ftp? |
| 13:12.28 | tralala | santibiotico, please, read the factoid again _carefully_ |
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| 13:12.40 | mc_ | RvGaTe, because at the moment the firewall is accepting everything |
| 13:12.53 | RvGaTe | mc_, im aware of that |
| 13:13.12 | cydork | ^rob^: does that file exist? did you isntall what liable said? did you search for that file using apt-file or p.d.o? |
| 13:13.17 | Chandu | can I have my partition where file system will be installed as LVM |
| 13:13.19 | liable | ^rob^: if its qt3 try libqt-headers |
| 13:13.31 | liable | libqt3-headers |
| 13:13.52 | mc_ | RvGaTe, also you you want computers connected to eth0 to access the internet? |
| 13:14.04 | mc_ | RvGaTe, sorry I mean do you want... |
| 13:14.15 | RvGaTe | mc_, no internet on that part... |
| 13:14.27 | ^rob^ | liable: ok ty |
| 13:14.29 | tralala | Chandu, yes, assuming that you're asking about your root partition. However I think you'll need to have your /boot partition off LVM |
| 13:14.55 | mc_ | RvGaTe, ok one moment then! |
| 13:15.22 | RvGaTe | mc_, i want it exactly as it shows on http://pc.rvgate.nl/fotos/network_setup.jpg |
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| 13:16.14 | Chandu | tralala, I have created pv of 5 gb , and vg of same size and 2 lv of 2gb each , but After finishing partitioning if I press continue the installation , it is giving "No partiiton table changes and no creation of file systems have been planned" |
| 13:16.58 | tralala | Chandu, did you specify mount points and filesystems? |
| 13:17.09 | mc_ | RvGaTe, ok try this http://www.hut9.com/firehol.txt |
| 13:17.41 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I made a mistake in what I was saying before. you do have eth1 blocked alread for incoming connections |
| 13:18.05 | ^rob^ | liable: i don't get it - I have now both - libqt4 and libqt3 - the sources are made in qt3 - do i still need qt4 ? |
| 13:18.23 | mc_ | RvGaTe, you were missing internet2werkplaats tho' |
| 13:19.01 | RvGaTe | mc_, maybe thats why it couldn't get a reply... the rply was blocked maybe? |
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| 13:19.20 | mc_ | RvGaTe, yes. is it working now? |
| 13:19.40 | RvGaTe | mc_, dont know yet, i'd have to go to the "werkplaats" for that, its in the other office, brb |
| 13:19.49 | mc_ | RvGaTe, no worries |
| 13:20.03 | Chandu | tralala, Yup Filesystem I specifed as LVM |
| 13:20.09 | Chandu | tralala, mount point I will check |
| 13:20.33 | tralala | Chandu, LVM is _not_ a filesystem. You might want to read the install guide (again). |
| 13:20.53 | Chandu | tralala, ok I will check |
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| 13:21.21 | RvGaTe | mc_, thats a negative |
| 13:21.32 | RvGaTe | mc_, no internet at the "werkplaats" |
| 13:21.36 | mc_ | RvGaTe, darn. |
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| 13:22.13 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I am reading http://firehol.sourceforge.net/tutorial.html? by the way |
| 13:22.34 | RvGaTe | mc_, so am i... |
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| 13:24.17 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I am kinda stumped at the moment. But I'll let u know if i notice any mistakes |
| 13:25.09 | RvGaTe | mc_, or perhaps you know some alternative for firehol ? |
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| 13:25.22 | liable | shorewall |
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| 13:26.09 | mc_ | RvGaTe, well I just use plain iptables commands on my firewall with a little script I wrote. |
| 13:26.33 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I only have one home interface though, not two. |
| 13:26.38 | x_link | Hi! |
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| 13:27.00 | x_link | Could somebody help me with my firewall, I can't send DCC's. I have to stop the firewall first. |
| 13:27.03 | x_link | Please. |
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| 13:28.36 | Chandu | tralala, I got it |
| 13:28.49 | tralala | Chandu, good job |
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| 13:30.37 | Nibbier | x_link, depends on your firewall and its settings |
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| 13:31.38 | wam | Hi, what's a good channel for this question (or maybe someone here knows an answer): I'm looking for a list of small hardwarefirewalls with 2..4 lanports and 1..2 wanports. Or maybe you have an advice which one is good? I thought about netgears FVS124G or something like it. |
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| 13:32.14 | tralala | RvGaTe, a nice howto for more than a basic shorewall setup: http://www.hornfordassociates.com/pages/documents/howto/linux/openvpn_howto-1.html. Note that this howto recommends webmin which is questionable. |
| 13:32.22 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I know this is a dumb thing to ask but you definitely reloaded the firehol config properly. i.e. /etv/init.d/firehol stop then start? |
| 13:32.28 | x_link | Nibbier: I use Firestarter. |
| 13:32.53 | RvGaTe | mc_, done that |
| 13:33.14 | Nibbier | ok, you need your firewall to watch irc traffic for your DCC-offers and allow traffic/connect on this port |
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| 13:33.50 | Nibbier | x_link, load the module ip_conntrack_irc |
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| 13:37.08 | x_link | Nibbier: I don't know how that should be done. |
| 13:37.22 | Nibbier | modprobe ip_conntrack_irc |
| 13:37.32 | GreenCult | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.40 | x_link | Nibbier: I should just run that in konsole ? |
| 13:38.04 | x_link | sedde:/home/sedde# modprobe ip_conntrack_irc |
| 13:38.05 | x_link | sedde:/home/sedde# |
| 13:38.06 | rainyrhythm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.34 | Nibbier | x_link, should work now |
| 13:39.37 | x_link | ok |
| 13:39.58 | Nibbier | to make that permanent you need to configure linux to autoload this module at bootup |
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| 13:40.36 | tralala | rainyrhythm, xorg is in backports (/msg dpkg bpo) |
| 13:40.50 | RvGaTe | mc_, we could ofcourse try the manual way |
| 13:41.21 | RvGaTe | mc_, turning firehol off for a moment, and enter the iptables commands.... altho i have no idea what commands to use |
| 13:41.27 | x_link | Nibbier: Okey, would you like to tell me how that's done? |
| 13:41.36 | Nibbier | nah |
| 13:41.56 | mc_ | RvGaTe, reading the tutorial more carefully I think your original conf may have been correct, just with the masquerade statement |
| 13:42.04 | Nibbier | this is the part that wants to be explored by using google and debian docu ;-) |
| 13:42.20 | mc_ | RvGaTe, but yes you could try manual |
| 13:42.25 | x_link | Nibbier: Okey, thanks anyway. |
| 13:42.34 | Nibbier | youre welcome |
| 13:43.38 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I will see if i can modify my own script for you |
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| 13:48.44 | Nibbier | RvGaTe, you net dows notw ork when NATing 2 internal nets to the inet? |
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| 13:49.12 | RvGaTe | Nibbier, sorry, but i couldn't understand anything you said |
| 13:49.25 | Nibbier | oh, bad typing ;-) |
| 13:49.48 | RvGaTe | terrible imo |
| 13:50.00 | Nibbier | the 2 internal interfaces cant access the internet? |
| 13:50.49 | RvGaTe | Im trying to setup a simple gateway on a server with 3 NICS, http://pc.rvgate.nl/fotos/network_setup.jpg that's the view of the network segment im working on... The thing is, whenever a pc gets connected on the swich, after getting a dhcp reply, it can ping eth0 (192.168.1.20) eth1 (82.169.141.129) and eth2 (10.0.0.1) without any problems... going any further it just times out... This is my interface config: http://www.pastebin.ru/5931, this is |
| 13:50.49 | RvGaTe | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.57 | RvGaTe | thats what i said a few minutes ago |
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| 13:52.35 | Nibbier | forwarding is enabled on the box? |
| 13:52.44 | RvGaTe | Nibbier, yes |
| 13:53.30 | Nibbier | and the clients do have the gw as gw i guess? |
| 13:53.44 | Nibbier | could not ping the eth0 net if it wasnt :| |
| 13:53.59 | RvGaTe | Nibbier, yup, all set as it should |
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| 13:56.30 | Nibbier | proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to 1, just to not confuse iptables-farward with this setting... |
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| 13:57.07 | RvGaTe | Nibbier, yup, set to 1 |
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| 13:59.32 | mc_ | RvGaTe, completely up to you if you want to try this. I modified my own firewall |
| 13:59.45 | mc_ | RvGaTe, http://www.hut9.com/firewall.tgz |
| 14:00.29 | mc_ | RvGaTe, uncompressing gives 3 files: /etc/init.d/firewall, /etc/default/firewall and /etc/rcS.d/S42firewall (symlink) |
| 14:00.39 | RvGaTe | mc_, noticed that, yup |
| 14:00.58 | mc_ | RvGaTe, so you know what to delete if it doesn't work :-) |
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| 14:01.51 | RvGaTe | mc_, you sure you modified everything as it should be, or should i start walking to the server? :P |
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| 14:02.41 | mc_ | RvGaTe, you will want to run /etc/init.d/firewall and then if it works uninstall firehol and it should load on boot |
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| 14:03.10 | mc_ | RvGaTe, I did my best to modify it. |
| 14:03.18 | RvGaTe | mc_, lets see how it goes |
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| 14:04.18 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 14:05.10 | mynullvoid | I got two computers, both using passwd-shadow auth; how can I sync the password, if any of the user change their password in either of the computer? |
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| 14:06.21 | Nibbier | use a directory service like openLDAP mynullvoid |
| 14:06.50 | Nibbier | copy the shadow files after each update using pam mynullvoid |
| 14:07.05 | mynullvoid | Nibbier: one of my machine are running mail server, and I have all the account created in |
| 14:07.12 | abrotman | use NIS or something similar |
| 14:07.32 | Nibbier | move them, to nis, ldap etc. |
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| 14:09.45 | Malagmyr | How can I make cut use and and all consecutive whitespace as a delimiter? |
| 14:09.57 | Malagmyr | any* |
| 14:10.55 | tralala | Malagmyr, you can't - use awk |
| 14:13.02 | tralala | $ echo "many spaces here" | awk '{print $2}' |
| 14:13.03 | tralala | spaces |
| 14:13.41 | Hoxzer | what are possible locations of sound device if /dev/dsp* doesn't exist? |
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| 14:14.43 | iuso | hi. what steps are required to make sarge work without devfs? i compiled a 2.6.17 kernel from backports, and boot fails somewhere during initrd because there's no devfs and thus nothing in /dev |
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| 14:15.11 | abrotman | snd_pcm_oss |
| 14:15.15 | cydork | Hoxzer: using alsa? snd-pcm-oss moudule loaded? |
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| 14:15.29 | Nibbier | Malagmyr, cut -d\ -f2 |
| 14:15.29 | cydork | !win abrotman |
| 14:15.29 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won the US presidency! |
| 14:15.36 | Hoxzer | cydork: checking... |
| 14:15.57 | Hoxzer | cydork: lol. |
| 14:16.06 | Nibbier | right, sorry Malagmyr im wrong, use awk as other said |
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| 14:16.17 | Hoxzer | cydork: thx seems like I have messed up with some module configuration when I was compilign custom module |
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| 14:16.25 | tralala | Hoxzer, iuso 2.6.17 is using udev and you cannot disable udev |
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| 14:16.39 | tralala | iuso, ^^ |
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| 14:17.42 | roe_ | anyone know of a good way to monitor my resources (CPU mem swap IO) and log them? |
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| 14:18.23 | _Brandon_ | a bit ot but could someone tell me which type of question are in lpi exam? :P |
| 14:18.39 | danbrwn | command for installing kernel sources? need for kernel that is installed. needs to have same version number when installed |
| 14:18.40 | RvGaTe | mc_, is there no output like: "firewall enabled"? :P i executed it, but no response... guess thats alright |
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| 14:18.48 | abrotman | _Brandon_: they have practice exams online |
| 14:19.18 | mc_ | RvGaTe, Yes there is not text printed when it runs (unless there is an error) |
| 14:19.40 | RvGaTe | mc_, allright, let me go test it, see if it works |
| 14:19.47 | _Brandon_ | abrotman: i mean multiple answer fill in the blank not the topic of question |
| 14:19.56 | mc_ | RvGaTe, ok. good luck :-) |
| 14:20.07 | abrotman | _Brandon_: then ask google |
| 14:20.23 | _Brandon_ | abrotman: i didn't find a lot :) |
| 14:20.37 | abrotman | you're in #debian |
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| 14:22.06 | RvGaTe | mc_, still no internet... :( |
| 14:22.25 | mc_ | RvGaTe, Ok, sorry. |
| 14:22.52 | mc_ | RvGaTe, just delete those 3 files and you will be back the way you were. we must be missing something else :-( |
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| 14:23.25 | roe_ | anyone know of a resource logging package? |
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| 14:23.45 | bl4ckw1ng | hi.. how do I update kernel module? |
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| 14:23.58 | abrotman | roe_: sar maybe |
| 14:24.12 | bl4ckw1ng | I have just upgraded Xorg 7.0 to 7.1 and someone told me to update the kernel module as well |
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| 14:24.53 | RvGaTe | mc_, what if i let you login on ssh, you might get a better view on the config... |
| 14:25.40 | mc_ | RvGaTe, yes fine. how will you enable me. do you want an email addr? |
| 14:25.48 | roe_ | abrotman: apt-cache search sar doesn't report anything relevent... is the package named something else? |
| 14:25.52 | RvGaTe | mc_, PM |
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| 14:26.19 | abrotman | roe_: nothing relevant ? |
| 14:26.33 | cydork | !info atsar |
| 14:26.36 | dpkg | atsar: (system activity reporter), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7-2 (sid), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 14:26.58 | roe_ | well, "sar" is part of many packages... ah atsar |
| 14:27.05 | abrotman | roe_: seems to be in sysstat |
| 14:27.10 | abrotman | sysstat: usr/bin/sar.sysstat |
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| 14:28.26 | roe_ | gotcha, thanx for the info, I will investigate |
| 14:28.36 | bl4ckw1ng | do I do this to update kernel modules: 'sudo module-assistant update'? |
| 14:28.58 | cydork | bl4ckw1ng: no you dont.. |
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| 14:29.23 | bl4ckw1ng | how do I update kernel modules? |
| 14:29.39 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, what do you mean? |
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| 14:30.07 | bl4ckw1ng | that's what I'm trying to understand also.. I have just upgraded xorg 7.0 to 7.1 and someone told me to also update the kernel modules |
| 14:30.30 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, are you using binary video drivers? |
| 14:30.55 | bl4ckw1ng | I'm using xserver-xorg-video-ati |
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| 14:31.31 | bl4ckw1ng | after I update to xorg 7.1 it gave me "[dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM" |
| 14:31.32 | liable | bl4ckw1ng: then you dont need to do anything |
| 14:31.40 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, then it should work fine without touching the kernel. |
| 14:31.52 | punto | hi.. anyone know which package I need to open images with the gimp? I installed it, but I can't open or save any kind of images, except 'xcf' |
| 14:31.59 | punto | (on debian) |
| 14:32.00 | liable | bl4ckw1ng: if you use fglrx, then yes, you need to remake the module for a new kernel |
| 14:32.03 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, are you running sid? |
| 14:32.32 | bl4ckw1ng | I'm running etch |
| 14:32.46 | bl4ckw1ng | etch is the same as testing right? |
| 14:32.51 | abrotman | currently .. yes |
| 14:32.52 | tralala | then you should investigate the problem and report a bug |
| 14:33.26 | tralala | punto, really? I've never had this with gimp. |
| 14:33.29 | bl4ckw1ng | I'm not sure if this is really a bug |
| 14:33.49 | bl4ckw1ng | I have reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-ati even recompiled it |
| 14:34.03 | liable | recompiled it? |
| 14:34.12 | bl4ckw1ng | yeah from source.. |
| 14:34.14 | cydork | bl4ckw1ng: you dont need to install any kernel modules. |
| 14:34.30 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, well, investigate it and you'll know |
| 14:35.07 | bl4ckw1ng | actually I don't really know where to start to investigate it |
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| 14:35.35 | liable | xorg.log is a good start |
| 14:36.02 | bl4ckw1ng | (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM |
| 14:36.02 | bl4ckw1ng | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
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| 14:36.12 | bl4ckw1ng | there's only two EE in Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:37.26 | punto | tralala: yeah, I got version 2.2.13-1 about a week ago.. I think it was working fine with 1.3 or whatever was before |
| 14:37.28 | bl4ckw1ng | I'm not sure if the problem is caused by Xorg 7.1? |
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| 14:39.02 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, grep radeon /proc/modules |
| 14:39.02 | bl4ckw1ng | because of this problem I lose DR capability |
| 14:39.07 | nith | how convert manual pages to a readable text file?? man mount > file.txt <-- looks like s**t |
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| 14:39.39 | bl4ckw1ng | radeon 96288 0 - Live 0xf12fe000 |
| 14:39.40 | bl4ckw1ng | drm 61812 1 radeon, Live 0xf1297000 |
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| 14:40.35 | petemc | nith: that works here, what pager are you using? |
| 14:40.38 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, it could be that xorg7.1 needs a newer kernel or that it has a bug |
| 14:40.59 | earthian | is there a tool to see how much space does one directory or another is consuming? |
| 14:41.14 | tralala | earthian, du |
| 14:41.14 | nith | im trying to open it in vim |
| 14:41.15 | earthian | thanks |
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| 14:41.58 | bl4ckw1ng | tralala, how do I downgrade xorg 7.1 to 7.0 from apt-get? |
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| 14:42.22 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 14:42.24 | smhar | hello |
| 14:42.40 | sparrw | !es |
| 14:42.43 | sparrw | ~es |
| 14:42.45 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
| 14:42.49 | bl4ckw1ng | hmm |
| 14:43.12 | bl4ckw1ng | grrr I have no choice but wait xorg 7.2 then |
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| 14:43.25 | tralala | this is what you get for running testing/unstable |
| 14:43.33 | bl4ckw1ng | yeah :) |
| 14:43.57 | bl4ckw1ng | I was hoping someone else hit the same problem as me |
| 14:44.26 | smhar | whay do I see 'GPG error' for secure-testing.debian.net and debian-multimedia.org when updating sources |
| 14:44.48 | bl4ckw1ng | tralala, you think upgrading the kernel may fix the problem? |
| 14:44.53 | bl4ckw1ng | I'm on 2.6.16 |
| 14:45.06 | cydork | abrotman: with a patch? :P |
| 14:45.16 | tralala | bl4ckw1ng, potentially yes. It could also potentially render your system unusable. |
| 14:45.20 | abrotman | cydork: no shit .. you don't say |
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| 14:45.24 | abrotman | smhar: you're missing keys |
| 14:45.28 | cydork | abrotman: heh |
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| 14:45.51 | bl4ckw1ng | ok, guys.. thanks for all the insights |
| 14:45.55 | Malagmyr | How can I do this properly? echo file[0-60] when I have a bunch of files named file1, file2... filen? |
| 14:46.13 | hyper_ch | hiya, how can I find out what charset is used by default on a debian machine? |
| 14:46.37 | tralala | Malagmyr, ask #bash |
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| 14:51.30 | folyn | hello, I am running sid and have begun getting an assertion error regarding xcb_xlib_unlock with both Java and Compiz after updating some X libraries. Is anyone familiar with this problem? |
| 14:51.59 | tralala | folyn: /msg dpkg bts |
| 14:51.59 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:52.00 | dpkg | well, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 14:52.10 | tralala | I'm teh winner |
| 14:52.15 | folyn | :) |
| 14:52.29 | abrotman | golly .. compiz .. java .. sid .. something broken .. no way! |
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| 14:52.54 | iuso | tralala: sorry, my question wasn't about udev. i know udev is necessary. but can i disable devfs? |
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| 14:53.18 | tralala | I thought devfs was deprecated in favour of udev |
| 14:53.48 | smhar | how to scroll up in irssi? |
| 14:54.13 | smhar | silly question :-) |
| 14:54.13 | tralala | smhar, sit down and press pgup |
| 14:54.20 | nith | how can i convert a manual page to a txt file, whithout it looking like s**t. (man mount > stuff.txt doesn't look good in vim) |
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| 14:55.01 | smhar | tralala: that is why it was silly.. because I figure it out as soon as I hit enter :-) |
| 14:55.04 | folyn | abrotman, well if I was asking in the wrong place I apologize I didn't see the harm in asking and don't feel I asked in an annoying manner |
| 14:55.17 | iuso | tralala: yes, i know. i'm trying to install a recent backported kernel on a sarge system |
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| 14:56.18 | frafra | hi all |
| 14:56.18 | iuso | tralala: so in order to use the kernel i'd have to disable devfs |
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| 14:56.22 | abrotman | folyn: you didn't .. it was just sarcasm :) |
| 14:56.23 | frafra | I'm using make-live |
| 14:56.27 | tralala | iuso, yes, I see. You can do it without compiling. |
| 14:56.32 | stealth_ | im trying to install gnomad2 for my dell dj, which i believe is a permissions problem with the device although i have no idea where the device file is... i also think i need hotplug? if i apt-get install hotplug will it mess up anythin else? udev? |
| 14:56.38 | abrotman | folyn: the only thing you could have done more was to check the BTS probably |
| 14:56.40 | stealth_ | can udev and hotplug be used together? |
| 14:56.45 | frafra | can I allow to install the custom live cd into hd? |
| 14:56.49 | abrotman | well .. not th eonly thing |
| 14:56.54 | abrotman | stealth_: which version of debian ? |
| 14:56.56 | roadfish | is there a package that will throttle my bandwidth based on port and/or application pid? |
| 14:57.01 | iuso | tralala: i need to compile the kernel, i need an smp-enabled kernel with an external module (adp94xx) |
| 14:57.01 | abrotman | trickle |
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| 14:57.24 | stealth_ | abrotman, ooOO.. guess imma get get caught here.. i did a knoppix hd install |
| 14:57.25 | tralala | iuso, starting with 2.6.17 everyting is smp |
| 14:57.27 | _- | can apt be used to install to $HOME as a nonroot user? |
| 14:57.41 | abrotman | stealth_: then you should ask #knoppix |
| 14:57.42 | iuso | tralala: yes. and the base kernel in the sarge system is a non-smp 2.6.8 |
| 14:57.44 | tralala | e.g. you don't need to compile |
| 14:57.55 | iuso | tralala: i _don't_ have 2.6.17 working yet |
| 14:58.13 | tralala | iuso, install it! /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 14:58.33 | iuso | tralala: i'll try |
| 14:58.36 | marchino | ciao |
| 14:59.00 | tralala | iuso, you can install it from backports as easy as aptitude install linux-image-blah-blah-blah |
| 14:59.05 | iuso | ok |
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| 15:03.12 | smhar | I am having problems with the kernel image 2.6.17-2-686 how can I uninstall it completely to install it again? |
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| 15:03.33 | earthian | i have installed awstats using apt-get install awstats, where do i access the program? |
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| 15:03.43 | earthian | i dont find it in /var/www/ |
| 15:03.43 | earthian | :S |
| 15:04.11 | marchino | how i can do the checksum of /bin and similars? i'm looking for debsums, but it looks in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums |
| 15:04.41 | marchino | if the server was violated this isn't secure |
| 15:04.52 | roadfish | abrotman: Thanks for the trickle tip. However, it seems that the bandwidth rate is fixed after the app is started. Do you know if there is something like "top" but for bandwidth which allows me to continuously adjust the "nice" level? |
| 15:05.00 | giupy-away | anyone with a hp kayak xw? |
| 15:05.26 | abrotman | roadfish: well .. you can do that .. but do you really want to ? |
| 15:06.00 | abrotman | roadfish: i believe iptables can do what you're asking |
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| 15:06.14 | abrotman | QoS stuff etc |
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| 15:06.51 | roadfish | abrotman: I'm on dial up. So I want certain downloading to blast along sometimes but, then, get throttled back on a whim. ... Anyway, I started searching on "shaper" instead of throttle and I've found a few more items like "wondershaper". |
| 15:07.04 | roadfish | abrotman: ok, thanks for the iptables tip. |
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| 15:08.57 | abrotman | roadfish: wondershaper should be okay .. |
| 15:09.09 | iuso | i'm trying to install linux-image-2.6.17-2-686 from backports on a sarge system, but i'm having trouble with the dependencies |
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| 15:09.20 | iuso | initramfs-tools won't install: Depends: udev (>= 0.086-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:09.24 | petemc | roadfish: unless your dial up is radically different from anyone else, nothing is going to "blast along" :) |
| 15:09.26 | iuso | although i just installed la |
| 15:09.33 | iuso | the latest udev from backports |
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| 15:11.10 | abrotman | petemc: maybe he has one of those new fangled shotgun modems |
| 15:11.40 | plutonas | my laptop fan works all the time, after i accidentally removed a lot of packages with aptitude, what can i do? what does it need to start working normally again? |
| 15:13.31 | abrotman | acpid perhaps |
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| 15:14.47 | roadfish | petemc: I don't really mean blast in that way. I want to have a long-running download going at all times. Then, on a whim, I want to throttle that download to get some webpages. Then boost the download again once the webpages are snagged. (Ideally, I'd just like to turn on/off a port.) |
| 15:14.49 | gbw | hello, i am trying to build my own linux cd, in which i want to have a webserver installed, anyone has a good tutorial or link how i can do that? |
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| 15:15.27 | plutonas | no abortman, acpid is already the newest version |
| 15:15.41 | abrotman | yay! |
| 15:15.48 | abrotman | plutonas: how old is the laptop ? |
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| 15:16.46 | plutonas | about 1 year |
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| 15:19.23 | folyn | roadfish, have you considered using a download manager like |
| 15:19.26 | folyn | d4x |
| 15:21.45 | DerJamster | wget, wget! |
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| 15:22.23 | smhar | how to apt-get install something and force it to redownload it |
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| 15:23.30 | Nibbier | smhar, delete it wirst |
| 15:23.31 | Nibbier | first |
| 15:23.41 | DerJamster | smhar: apt-get clean |
| 15:24.14 | smhar | Nibbier: delete it from where? which directory? |
| 15:24.33 | Nibbier | delete it by using DerJamsters command ;-) |
| 15:24.49 | smhar | DerJamster: but I don't want everything deleted.. only one package ! |
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| 15:25.39 | folyn | smhar, the cache folder is /var/cache/apt/archives, you can delete the package from there manually |
| 15:26.05 | bidha2kbsd | i was migrating /etc/passwd, group and shadow .. to next server as part of server migration is there any good tools that does this safely..i have to keep look all the hose uid or gid...to make sure no mismatch occured |
| 15:26.12 | smhar | folyn: thanks |
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| 15:26.50 | gbw | is it possible to build our own linux cd? where we can add applications we like? |
| 15:27.00 | Nibbier | http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_22031739.html |
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| 15:27.24 | gbw | Nibbier, is that for me? |
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| 15:27.44 | Nibbier | its for everyone, someone seeking help ;-) |
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| 15:27.50 | cydork | gbw: you want to build a live cd? or custom install cd? |
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| 15:28.03 | gbw | cydork, custom install cd |
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| 15:28.53 | factor | how do I get the sane extras to work? |
| 15:29.00 | factor | for my scanner |
| 15:29.11 | factor | I had it work before but I had to compile myself |
| 15:29.38 | factor | wondring how debian enables it. |
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| 15:30.13 | enouf | factor: apt-cache search sane .. also install libsane-extras - API library for scanners -- extra backends |
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| 15:31.01 | plutonas | i have a file with package names, one at every row, how can i install them with apt-get without having to write them all? |
| 15:31.25 | factor | I have installed both of them, but it does not find my scanner |
| 15:31.34 | factor | although if I do a lsusb my scanner is picked up |
| 15:31.35 | enouf | !reinstall |
| 15:31.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 15:31.44 | enouf | plutonas: ^^^ |
| 15:31.45 | petemc | factor: cat file | xargs apt-get install might work |
| 15:31.50 | petemc | erm, plutonas |
| 15:32.25 | gbw | cydork, ? |
| 15:32.34 | plutonas | enouf i didn't understand very well |
| 15:32.59 | enouf | plutonas: where did you gt this file from? |
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| 15:33.46 | plutonas | i got it from /var/log/aptitude, and edited it so that only the package names that interest me remain |
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| 15:34.21 | enouf | plutonas: basically .. dpkg --set-selections < filename.txt && apt-get install |
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| 15:34.45 | petemc | the file would need to have a second column saying install for that to work |
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| 15:35.00 | plutonas | enouf thx, will try |
| 15:35.06 | plutonas | petemc: is this for me? |
| 15:35.07 | enouf | plutonas: listen to petemc |
| 15:35.08 | petemc | yes |
| 15:35.21 | petemc | plutonas: try cat file | xargs aptitude install |
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| 15:35.30 | plutonas | petemc: no aptitude |
| 15:35.34 | plutonas | apt-get |
| 15:35.36 | petemc | right |
| 15:35.38 | enouf | plutonas: why not do the same .. but follow the reinstall outline for making the inital file? |
| 15:35.40 | petemc | so use apt-get |
| 15:35.54 | plutonas | because of aptitude i have to do this all |
| 15:35.58 | cydork | gbw: sorry phone call.. |
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| 15:36.08 | gbw | cydork, no problem |
| 15:36.08 | cydork | !tell gbw -about custom cd |
| 15:36.25 | enouf | yanks the cord from cydork wall socket |
| 15:36.38 | enouf | :-P |
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| 15:37.09 | plutonas | seems to work petemc, thank you |
| 15:39.28 | gbw | cydork, thaks for that, i will brb for a while for reading |
| 15:39.56 | bismark | im compiling tapioca-xmpp and i got this error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljinglesessionphone-0.3" |
| 15:39.56 | bismark | any idea? |
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| 15:40.27 | cydork | bismark: you have to install that .. |
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| 15:41.15 | bismark | cydork, i have installed libjingle |
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| 15:42.51 | cydork | bismark: you have libjinglesession0.3-0?? |
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| 15:43.06 | abrotman | bismark: do you hear the snow bells ringing ? |
| 15:43.32 | bismark | cydork, libjinglesession0.3-0 no, libjingle |
| 15:43.42 | bismark | abrotman, no |
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| 15:44.13 | cydork | bismark: which versin of debian are you runnign? |
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| 15:45.17 | bismark | cydork, im not using debian :), but that error is when im compiling |
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| 15:47.17 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i did what u told me yesterday and its still asks activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option |
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| 15:53.05 | abrotman | JaMaLz: need to see the error |
| 15:53.10 | abrotman | bismark: which OS is it ? |
| 15:53.24 | bismark | abrotman, arch linux |
| 15:53.52 | abrotman | did you ask .. #archlinux or whatever it is ? |
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| 15:56.54 | JaMaLz | i did what u told me yesterday and its still asks activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option |
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| 15:59.01 | hyper_ch | hiya, how can I change the default charset for a system user (but leave the rest of the system as it is)? |
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| 15:59.44 | abrotman | JaMaLz: need to see the error |
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| 16:00.13 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i did what u gave me yesterday and it said i have to force loop |
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| 16:02.54 | Roey | hi, I just want it to list the files which contain an eight-number datestamp, but grep "[0-9]{8}" * doesn't find anything. What am I doing wrong with the grep syntax? |
| 16:03.11 | abrotman | JaMaLz: paste the output somewhere |
| 16:05.00 | abrotman | bah .. no maulkin .. no jvw |
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| 16:06.18 | JaMaLz | abrotman : pvt ? |
| 16:06.23 | abrotman | !paster |
| 16:06.23 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 16:07.42 | JaMaLz | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4616 |
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| 16:08.30 | HyperDevil | hello i cannot format my DVD+RW disc: cannot write medium - incompatible format |
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| 16:08.36 | HyperDevil | i use DVD record |
| 16:08.55 | madclicker | where do i specify in sarge to do autorepair on file system on reboot? |
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| 16:09.26 | JaMaLz | abrotman : u got the paste ? |
| 16:09.27 | enouf | madclicker: 'touch /forcefsck' for / if it's ext2-3 |
| 16:09.34 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:09.34 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:09.44 | kyuss | How do I mount a usb flash drive? |
| 16:09.48 | abrotman | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 16:09.48 | dpkg | [e2fsprogs loop] you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian etch or sid which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:09.58 | abrotman | !tell kyuss about usb storage |
| 16:09.59 | enouf | HyperDevil: install dvd+rw-tools and man growisofs |
| 16:10.14 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i didn't that yesterday and still the same |
| 16:10.20 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i DID that yesterday and still the same |
| 16:10.26 | HyperDevil | enouf: i do not want to burn iso files.. just tar files |
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| 16:11.19 | HyperDevil | http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/dvd+rw-tools |
| 16:11.25 | HyperDevil | whats happening there? |
| 16:11.29 | abrotman | JaMaLz: run it again .. show us the output when you run it |
| 16:11.32 | madclicker | enouf, i think there is a setting for "autofsck" you know when the fsck requires to input "y" for yes to fix file system |
| 16:12.13 | enouf | madclicker: man fsck man e2fsck |
| 16:12.54 | enouf | madclicker: do you really think you know better than the FS about how to repair itself ?? .. I know there's a -n (?) as a simulation mode |
| 16:13.06 | enouf | check the man pages |
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| 16:13.38 | enouf | HyperDevil: so what? that doesn't matter .. what's the problem though |
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| 16:14.24 | enouf | HyperDevil: man growisofs and erase the disk .. for ReWriting .. or read more for appending data |
| 16:14.50 | krazykit | bleh. where's the systemwide path located again? |
| 16:14.57 | abrotman | /etc/profile |
| 16:15.17 | madclicker | enouf, kind of sucks to drive half way around town to press "y" on a keyboard |
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| 16:15.21 | Vme | hello |
| 16:15.31 | itchi | My usb printer has been worked for some time, now it's looks that he no more want to do his job. How should i begin to troubleshoot it? |
| 16:15.34 | Vme | is there a netinst ISO image for SID ?? I can't seem to find it? |
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| 16:16.22 | Ronin | Vme: no there isnt |
| 16:16.27 | madclicker | enouf, i know mandrake has an "autofsck" option, which cam be set in /etc/sysconfig/autofsck, I would figure debian would be able to do the same thing |
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| 16:16.31 | HyperDevil | dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/hdc, does the debian version support full formatting? |
| 16:16.37 | medc | hguys i have problem with samaba |
| 16:16.38 | medc | samba |
| 16:16.48 | enouf | madclicker: huh? .. the first command should'nt require a Y or N .. it's non-interactive for me here |
| 16:16.52 | kyuss | >.< usb drive won't unmount |
| 16:16.55 | medc | i cannot browse the window network that i am attached to |
| 16:17.18 | enouf | madclicker: man tune2fs and the other manpages |
| 16:17.26 | madclicker | enouf, i think we are ona different topic |
| 16:17.28 | enouf | madclicker: man fstab as well |
| 16:17.39 | madclicker | enouf, roger |
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| 16:18.08 | medc | anyone can help me? |
| 16:18.43 | kyuss | just type in \\ip_address |
| 16:18.58 | medc | \\ip_adress |
| 16:19.05 | Ronin | heh |
| 16:19.13 | p3rti | hi, there is a bug with alsa module for the VIA 8235??, because i hear the sound very low, and in the mixer have all volume high! |
| 16:19.19 | enouf | HyperDevil: not sure what you mean .. see http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ |
| 16:19.29 | kyuss | \\the_ip_address_of_the_computer_you're_trying_to_connect_to |
| 16:19.35 | p3rti | i'm using debian SID |
| 16:19.47 | kyuss | in konqueror or something |
| 16:20.01 | Ronin | p3rti: did you check the bts? |
| 16:20.24 | p3rti | Ronin, can you tell me what it's bts? |
| 16:20.29 | Ronin | !bts |
| 16:20.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 16:21.03 | itchi | lsusb show the printer but i get an bunch of messages with dmesg http://pastebin.ca/259613 |
| 16:21.41 | medc | but i have samba running |
| 16:21.42 | p3rti | wait |
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| 16:23.16 | kyuss | I've only ever used samba through Konqueror, and thats usually how I connect to a windows PC |
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| 16:25.02 | Winkie | hey guys, what's the source difference between apt-cache search and dpkg -l? I can find packages like rar and unrar through apt-cache search but not through dpkg -l |
| 16:25.13 | Winkie | I don't honestly understand why :( |
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| 16:25.21 | petemc | Winkie: man dpkg ; man apt-cache |
| 16:25.39 | Winkie | petemc: yes i'm aware there are functional differences |
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| 16:25.51 | Winkie | but i've obviously already read those and can't see what i am looking for? |
| 16:25.52 | petemc | Winkie: dpkg -l shows what packages are installed, apt-cache searches packages available in the repos |
| 16:26.14 | itchi | Wich url was that there to go on the local cups config page throught that webinterface? |
| 16:26.16 | Winkie | petemc: ok that makes more sense, but how come dpkg -l has provisions for showing uninstalled packages and will do in some situations |
| 16:26.27 | Winkie | like i think `dpkg -l 'linux-image*'` will show plenty uninstalled |
| 16:26.35 | petemc | Winkie: because they're not fully uninstalled |
| 16:26.50 | Winkie | ah i see, well that makes more sense then |
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| 16:27.12 | petemc | Winkie: look at the few lines at the top of dpkg -l 's output |
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| 16:28.01 | p3rti | Ronin, i dont see any bug related that talk about the low sound on VIA8235 soundcard |
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| 16:28.09 | Winkie | petemc: yeah it makes more sense to me now when i look at it, it was frustrating :) |
| 16:28.09 | Winkie | thanks |
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| 16:30.22 | jharrisonwk | HEY! |
| 16:30.29 | jharrisonwk | what's after etch? |
| 16:30.33 | soop | how do I update a pacacke (mysql) ... |
| 16:30.36 | soop | ? |
| 16:30.37 | petemc | jharrisonwk: lenny |
| 16:30.41 | soop | jharrisonwk: rex? |
| 16:30.48 | jharrisonwk | lenny? |
| 16:30.53 | jharrisonwk | there aint no lenny in toy story is there? |
| 16:30.54 | petemc | YES |
| 16:31.00 | jharrisonwk | hhmmm |
| 16:31.03 | jharrisonwk | sounds fishy to me |
| 16:31.10 | petemc | !lenny |
| 16:31.10 | dpkg | hmm... lenny is the codename for the Debian release that will follow Debian 4.0. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters#Lenny_the_Binoculars |
| 16:31.21 | soop | apt-get installed mysql 4.11 and I need 4.13 apparently |
| 16:31.24 | jharrisonwk | well kiss my grits |
| 16:31.38 | soop | err 4.1.13 |
| 16:32.32 | jharrisonwk | petemc: hey there IS a lenny in toy story |
| 16:32.36 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.40 | jharrisonwk | the Binoculars |
| 16:32.53 | petemc | theres a turn up for the books... |
| 16:32.57 | p3rti | Ronin, this is normal?? AO: [alsa] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) |
| 16:33.19 | jharrisonwk | Ronin: are you looking for a new master? |
| 16:33.37 | raf256 | what will Debian do when it run out of ToyStory characters? |
| 16:33.37 | Ronin | jharrisonwk: naw i like it this way |
| 16:33.46 | Ronin | raf256: not likely going to happen any time soon |
| 16:33.57 | jharrisonwk | Ronin: do you charge 500 Ryu for assassinaations? |
| 16:34.21 | itchi | haha, printconf have solve the trouble, i have now deskjet_3550 and the same with _1. What did printconf exactly? |
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| 16:38.59 | jharrisonwk | hhhmmm |
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| 16:39.05 | jharrisonwk | got really quiet in here |
| 16:39.17 | jharrisonwk | 693 people have nothing to say now? |
| 16:40.15 | gpm | hey guys. i have apache 2 on etch. i want to do basic auth over normal http and over https. i made a separate file and Included it in the sites-enabled files for the normal http and the https and i restarted apache. now auth works over http but not with https, it just goes right to the page with no password prompt...what's up? |
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| 16:43.50 | soop | how can I upgrade my installation of mysql to something higher than 4.1.1? |
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| 16:44.32 | jharrisonwk | soop: what are you running? |
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| 16:45.15 | mrcheeks | roots_:here is the other relevant portion of the code http://pastebin.ca/259646 |
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| 16:48.37 | streuner | !tell reza about root |
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| 16:49.20 | dhuv | this question is not debian specific, but perhaps somebody can point me to a better place, I wanted to start working with CVS, or some similar system so that I can version an application |
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| 16:50.01 | dhuv | I heard of subversion as well, but dont know what would be the best for me |
| 16:50.09 | dhuv | anybody know where I can find out? |
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| 16:51.19 | Pryon | http://www.pushok.com/soft_svn_vscvs.php |
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| 16:51.47 | Pryon | Please note that I haven't read what's there, I just googled and picked the first likely URL |
| 16:51.50 | odla | when will debian ship GNUstep as it's default desktop ;) |
| 16:51.50 | Gecko | Hey there. How do I do mailfiltering on Maildirs? I can't use procmail, can I? |
| 16:52.24 | cilkay | dhuv: some of the creators of CVS created Subversion later so that should give you a hint. I find svn is easy to configure, admin, and use. |
| 16:52.42 | cilkay | dhuv: and kdesvn is sweetness. |
| 16:52.47 | Pryon | Gecko: procmail supports maildir just fine |
| 16:53.06 | Gecko | Pryon: oh, cool. I thought it only sorted on incoming mail |
| 16:53.29 | Winkie | odla: when pigs fly, tell scheissegern that too if you know him :) |
| 16:53.32 | Winkie | (i hope so) |
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| 16:53.53 | Pryon | Gecko: Well, now I'm confused. What do you mean by "mailfiltering" if not filtering incoming mail? |
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| 16:53.58 | krazykit | haha, that's a funny name. sheissegern. |
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| 16:54.13 | krazykit | it's even funnier when you speak german ;-) |
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| 16:54.26 | Gecko | Pryon: well, I have a pretty unfiltered Maildir, and I need to do some filtering on already received mail too |
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| 16:54.57 | reza | hi |
| 16:55.37 | reza | What is the Debconf/Db.pm in debian ? |
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| 16:55.48 | reza | I can't find this module in CPAN.org |
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| 16:56.19 | Pryon | Gecko: Not sure what procmail can do with already delivered mail in maildirs. I do know that it handles them fine for incoming, though. |
| 16:56.34 | reza | wehn i run debconf command . It get me this error : Can't locate Debconf/Db.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/debconf line 60. |
| 16:56.35 | reza | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/debconf line 60. |
| 16:57.00 | JaMaLz | abrotman : http://pastebin.ca/259656 |
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| 16:57.19 | reza | Can you help me ? |
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| 16:59.19 | Pryon | reza: Possibly stupid question: Are you sure debconf is successfully installed? |
| 16:59.54 | reza | yeah |
| 16:59.56 | Number_5 | looks like a perl module is missing or not installed |
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| 17:00.06 | Pryon | Although, the appearance of '/usr/local/lib' in those errors leads me to believe that perl is not installed via dpkg/apt |
| 17:01.02 | reza | Pryon : I get list of dpkg => ii debconf 1.4.30.13 Debian configuration management system |
| 17:01.30 | Winkie | Pryon: i'd say that's the most likely thing |
| 17:01.37 | p3rti | someone have problems with VIA 8235 soundcard... i have very low volume!! and the mixer have all on hight |
| 17:01.39 | Pryon | reza: does 'dpkg -l perl' say anything interesting? |
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| 17:02.06 | Winkie | although my debian sid install has a similar list of directories but with /etc/perl first |
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| 17:05.10 | Grub_Now | hello |
| 17:05.14 | Grub_Now | i need some help |
| 17:05.16 | Winkie | reza: it looks like you have an interesting perl install, it doesn't include /usr/share/perl5 which is where Debconf/Db.pm will be |
| 17:05.27 | Winkie | Grub_Now: don't ask to ask ;) |
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| 17:05.38 | Grub_Now | $ modprobe ipv6 |
| 17:05.38 | Grub_Now | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.16.13-xen/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
| 17:05.41 | Grub_Now | what do i do? |
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| 17:05.50 | Winkie | have you installed a newer kernel? |
| 17:05.53 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 17:06.07 | Grub_Now | Winkie: are there no workarounds? |
| 17:06.10 | reza | Winkie: yeah I installed perl recently |
| 17:06.11 | Pryon | depmod -a? (just a guess) |
| 17:06.29 | Winkie | Pryon: i'm guessing that perhaps he doesn't have any modules installed for his current kernel |
| 17:06.33 | Winkie | reza: how did you install perl? |
| 17:06.37 | Grub_Now | Winkie : 2.6.16.13-xen |
| 17:06.43 | Winkie | because uh, every OS i've used includes it? |
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| 17:06.48 | reza | Winkie : perl 5.8.8 |
| 17:06.52 | Winkie | Grub_Now: i don't know much about xen, `uname -a`? |
| 17:06.52 | bintut | i setup bind9.. how will i know that it is a caching name server at the same time? |
| 17:07.02 | reza | Winkie: I compile manually |
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| 17:07.06 | petemc | bintut: thats the default behaviour of debians bind9 |
| 17:07.10 | Grub_Now | Winkiw: yes |
| 17:07.11 | Number_5 | reza there ya go |
| 17:07.13 | Winkie | reza: that is your problem |
| 17:07.14 | abrotman | JaMaLz: no .. show me the command you used |
| 17:07.19 | petemc | reza: youve broke your perl install - well done |
| 17:07.19 | Grub_Now | Winkie: yes, uname -a |
| 17:07.28 | Winkie | reza: why didn't you use the debian packages? |
| 17:07.37 | reza | Winkie : yeah , no problem in installing perl |
| 17:08.08 | JaMaLz | abrotman : apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:08.08 | reza | Winkie : I did not know |
| 17:08.08 | bintut | petemc: oh.. so, after i apt-get'ed bind9, it is already by default a caching name server? |
| 17:08.08 | Number_5 | reza you installed to the wrong directory :P |
| 17:08.08 | petemc | bintut: yessir |
| 17:08.09 | Winkie | reza: I don't know how you should fix this to be honest, i'm no debian expert |
| 17:08.12 | bintut | petemc: thanks for confirming.. |
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| 17:08.34 | reza | Winkie: ok, thanks |
| 17:08.49 | bintut | next question: how will i setup XFS (X Font Server) to listen of up to 500 clients? |
| 17:08.54 | reza | Winkie: Does anybody can help me about this ? |
| 17:08.55 | Winkie | reza: there's probably an option somewhere for apt-get to reinstall the perl package overwriting all old files |
| 17:09.00 | abrotman | JaMaLz: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop .. AND READ THE WHOLE THING |
| 17:09.05 | Winkie | but i would seriously consult people who know more than me first |
| 17:09.14 | JaMaLz | abrotman : i have to do normal upgrade ? |
| 17:10.07 | abrotman | !e2fsprogs |
| 17:10.07 | dpkg | methinks e2fsprogs is if you are getting a messages about Force LoopBreak a likely cause is that you are trying to upgrade pre-stable packages to testing which isnt' supported. you should fully upgrade to the current stable before upgrading to testing,ask me about <force loopbreak> |
| 17:11.12 | reza | Winkie : what is you mind if i get perl 5.8.8. pkg file and install with dpkg ? |
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| 17:12.06 | Number_5 | reza try: apt-get install perl |
| 17:12.11 | Pryon | reza: You'll probably have to delete the version in /usr/local as it will be first in your path |
| 17:12.12 | giupy | anyone with xeon and vrm experience ? |
| 17:12.38 | reza | Number_5 : I need perl 5.8.8 |
| 17:13.10 | reza | My apt source list is stables versions |
| 17:14.00 | Number_5 | use etch then :P |
| 17:14.19 | reza | oh, I can't change my os now |
| 17:14.25 | cydork | reza: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:14.55 | reza | cydork: I don't know |
| 17:15.34 | reza | cydork :Do you read above converstation ? |
| 17:15.49 | reza | I have debian sarg |
| 17:16.22 | reza | I install perl 5.8.8 recently |
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| 17:16.22 | cydork | reza: if you want to install higher verion of perl on stable you may want to check backports.org |
| 17:16.22 | Number_5 | reza have you tried locate DB.pm? |
| 17:16.30 | reza | Number_5 : yeah |
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| 17:16.42 | Number_5 | can it find it? |
| 17:17.08 | reza | I have a file in /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/DB.pm and a one in /usr/share/perl/5.8.4/DB.pm |
| 17:17.26 | reza | I have 2 version of DB.pm |
| 17:17.47 | bintut | how will i setup XFS (X Font Server) in such a way that it can accept connections up to 500 clients? |
| 17:18.33 | Grub_Now | do i have to upgrade kernel to enable ipv6? |
| 17:18.45 | Grub_Now | cydork |
| 17:19.02 | Grub_Now | cydork |
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| 17:19.16 | cydork | Grub_Now: grep -i ipv6 /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 17:19.23 | qiv | hello ... anyone knows any editor wich can delete colums? |
| 17:19.33 | cahoot | bintut: editing /etc/X11/fs/config doesn't do the trick? |
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| 17:20.30 | bintut | cahoot: nope. it goes back to 20 |
| 17:20.55 | Ronin | qiv: what columns where? |
| 17:21.01 | Grub_Now | cydork: grep: /boot/config-2.6.16.13-xen: No such file or directory |
| 17:21.03 | bintut | # /etc/init.d/xfs start |
| 17:21.03 | bintut | Setting up X font server socket directory /tmp/.font-unix...done. |
| 17:21.03 | bintut | Starting X font server: xfs/usr/bin/xfs error: Client limit of 501 too high; using default of 20 |
| 17:21.04 | Grub_Now | :( |
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| 17:21.47 | ofer1 | can someone please write "OFer1"? thanks |
| 17:21.50 | qiv | Ronin: my file contains lines like 4727 356.62578 4.58702 36.65 -16.72 162.9671 46.5253 880.70 180.31 11.56 5.35 95.210 404134.9/* .066 n.a. n.a. 3.197164342E+08 4.9815724 2.3318497420E+08 23.8064074 12.963689 25.2 |
| 17:21.51 | Grub_Now | cydork: i already tried that |
| 17:21.58 | qiv | i just need two numbers out of it |
| 17:22.01 | Grub_Now | cydork: so do i upgrade the kernel now? |
| 17:22.29 | stew | Grub_Now: what version of debain are you running? |
| 17:22.34 | stew | Grub_Now: where did that kernel come from? |
| 17:22.42 | qiv | Ronin: found a way, thx ;) |
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| 17:23.26 | Grub_Now | stew: i have no idea, its a remote host, and i am supposed to set up ipv6 on that.. and the owner is asleep as of now.. so i am waiting for him |
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| 17:23.46 | Grub_Now | stew: so i wanted to know if there are any workarounds, or do i have to upgrade the kernel |
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| 17:24.01 | Grub_Now | stew: 2.6.16.13-xen |
| 17:24.05 | Grub_Now | cydork ^^ |
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| 17:24.58 | cydork | Grub_Now: what dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 say? |
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| 17:26.53 | dareth | qiv What way did you find? |
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| 17:27.04 | Grub_Now | cydork: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 17:27.16 | Grub_Now | cydork ^^ |
| 17:27.55 | reza | Where can i find perl pkg file ? I search in debian and google but can't find that. |
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| 17:28.46 | petemc | reza: you might have trouble installing debian packages due to the package systems reliance on a working perl install |
| 17:28.57 | dareth | was thinking that cut would be a good command to use to remove certain columns... is there a better/shorter way. |
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| 17:29.10 | Grub_Now | cydork |
| 17:29.22 | Grub_Now | cydork: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and |
| 17:29.23 | Grub_Now | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:30.02 | cydork | !tell Grub_Now -about repeat |
| 17:30.16 | stew | reza: you should remove perl from /usr/local ; if you really need perl 5.8.8, you'd have to fix perl by removing the perl in /usr/local then upgrade to testing |
| 17:30.32 | Grub_Now | cydork: oh |
| 17:30.50 | cydork | stew: doesn't bpo have the newer version of perl? |
| 17:30.51 | stew | Grub_Now: any debian kernel would have ipv6 enabled, you are not using a debian kernel, either someone compiled that one by hand, or installed it from some other distribution |
| 17:30.52 | SpeedyG | hey, i'm running pure-ftpd linked to a mysql-server for user/pass stuff on a debian box, but somehow when it tries to resolve the password, it says 'Authentication Failed' |
| 17:30.55 | stew | cydork: no |
| 17:31.09 | cydork | stew: oh ok.. |
| 17:31.18 | Grub_Now | stew: oh |
| 17:31.27 | Grub_Now | stew: i think the owner must have done it then |
| 17:31.28 | SpeedyG | logs tell me nothing else than that |
| 17:31.34 | SpeedyG | anyone got a clue? |
| 17:32.07 | CharminTheMoose | question:Is there anyway for me to set up a simple pam configuration? |
| 17:32.10 | Grub_Now | thanks cydork, stew |
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| 17:32.51 | CharminTheMoose | I know what i want to do,but i don' know how to go about doing it the simplest way |
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| 17:33.42 | CharminTheMoose | I want to set up a pam config that checks for a password... |
| 17:33.54 | CharminTheMoose | do i have to have shadow and nsswitch? |
| 17:34.22 | bintut | when do i need to have a dynamic dns? |
| 17:35.00 | Flimzy | Mozilla Firefox is not showing text in flash applets... anyone have any idea what might fix this? |
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| 17:35.10 | abrotman | ridding the web of flash? |
| 17:35.10 | Zap-W | how do i configure a SMTP server in mutt |
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| 17:35.35 | didier_ | bintut> when you have a dynamic IP |
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| 17:38.05 | bintut | didier_: i have dynamic ip addresses given to workstations but my bind9 setup has a complete list of names for each ip listed.. do i still need to setup a dynamic dns? |
| 17:38.06 | PaSurf | I am looking to install debian on an AMD64 system. What and where would I get the iso for this install? |
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| 17:38.23 | rsk | PaSurf, debian.org |
| 17:38.45 | rsk | i386 should be fine |
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| 17:39.31 | PaSurf | rsk: I have found an iso but there is a pure and a amd. Also one file says mini.iso. I was installing with the regular i386 iso and got several errors along with a bunch of 99's |
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| 17:39.57 | PaSurf | rsk: system is looking to boot off cdrom then c: drive... |
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| 17:40.05 | rsk | and? |
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| 17:40.14 | didier_ | bintut> if you dont need to have the hostname permanently associated with your physical machines , no you don't |
| 17:40.20 | rsk | you just probably didnt burn it right |
| 17:40.43 | PaSurf | rsk: this is after a new install, and this disk was used for at least 5 other installs |
| 17:41.03 | PaSurf | basically system is stalled will 99 all over the screen |
| 17:41.11 | bintut | didier_: ok.. thanks.. |
| 17:41.42 | didier_ | bintut> but generaly you may want to have the IP addresses resolving to the name wrote on the sticker you stuck on your machines |
| 17:41.51 | creichen | Hi! I'm currently running uw-imapd, but it seems that this server doesn't run as the user doing the imap connection. Is there something I need to configure? Would another imapd do the trick? |
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| 17:42.13 | didier_ | bintut> I think this might helps resolving problems |
| 17:42.32 | bintut | didier_: having a dynamic dns setup? |
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| 17:43.38 | didier_ | bintut> not at this time |
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| 17:44.39 | didier_ | bintut> in fact I was used to associate IP address to MAC addresses in dhcpd.conf |
| 17:44.42 | bintut | ok |
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| 17:45.41 | didier_ | bintut> this way no need for dyndns but you may have to maintain a quite marge dhcpd.conf depending on your number of clients |
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| 17:45.58 | RvGaTe | mc_, could you pm me that IP i gave you this afternoon ? |
| 17:46.11 | didier_ | bintut> -marge +large |
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| 17:47.53 | bintut | didier_: does it really consumes a lot of lines in my dhcpd.conf when configuring a dynamic dns? |
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| 17:48.45 | LinuxNIT | hey guys i added a user with /bin/false and set the pw but when i go to set the smbpass it says that it failded to find a entry for the user... what am i missing? |
| 17:49.09 | LinuxNIT | it worked to set the smbpass for the original user |
| 17:49.54 | didier_ | bintut> you create one entry per machine in your dhcpd.conf and then you dont need to setup for dynamic dns |
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| 17:52.41 | bintut | didier_: ah.. you mean, fixed-address.. |
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| 17:54.05 | didier_ | bintut> yes, a fixed IP address per MAC address, delivered by dhcpd |
| 17:54.39 | bintut | didier_: ok.. |
| 17:54.43 | bintut | didier_: thanks.. |
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| 17:55.40 | eleftherios | I am running Etch (latest net installer) and I have a machine here with a matrox P650 giving me headaches. Anyone knows what I have to do to get this card to work at 1280x1024? |
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| 18:01.51 | earthian | where could i find a howto and other examples and documents about creating a hosting server (production server or so?)??? thanks |
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| 18:07.26 | DerJamster | Define hosting server. Hosting of what? |
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| 18:07.48 | dmesg | hi dudes |
| 18:07.53 | DerJamster | y helo thar |
| 18:07.58 | dmesg | i have a problem |
| 18:08.00 | brett | hey why am I getting a "no public keys available for the following ids..." when I update? |
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| 18:08.14 | DerJamster | !key |
| 18:08.14 | dpkg | For the new apt key, download it with "gpg --recv-keys 6070d3a1", then verify in whatever way you normally do that it is signed by the Debian ftpmasters. you can then use "apt-key" to install it. |
| 18:08.41 | DerJamster | !2006 key |
| 18:08.42 | dpkg | [2006 key] apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 18:09.08 | dmesg | i got a debian sun enterprise connected to a sun e240 via serial port, whitch command can i use to comunicate if posible? |
| 18:09.14 | brett | DerJamster: I already did that... |
| 18:09.27 | DerJamster | brett: got additional sources in your sources.list then? |
| 18:09.31 | brett | yes |
| 18:09.36 | DerJamster | Well :> |
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| 18:09.39 | DerJamster | That explains it. |
| 18:09.44 | DerJamster | check the sites of those additional sources. |
| 18:09.55 | DerJamster | debian-multimedia.org has the key and instructions on their site. |
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| 18:11.02 | brett | DerJamster: ahh read my mind |
| 18:11.07 | brett | hrm I swear I did this already... |
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| 18:12.29 | malverian | 'update-rc.d ssh defaults' should make ssh start at boot right? Am I missing something here? |
| 18:12.39 | brett | hrm I swear I did this already... |
| 18:13.58 | malverian | runlevel tells me "N 2" |
| 18:14.18 | malverian | And /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh -> ../init.d/ssh |
| 18:14.38 | malverian | But for some reason ssh isn't starting at boot. |
| 18:14.42 | eleftherios | what is the script to run to configure xorg? |
| 18:16.58 | niranj | eleftherios, its usually called xorgconfig |
| 18:17.07 | cydork | !drxx eleftherios |
| 18:17.08 | dpkg | eleftherios: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 18:18.00 | brett | ahh problem is here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/11/msg02324.html |
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| 18:18.55 | intx | how can I change the resolution for console mode (outside of X) |
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| 18:19.07 | malverian | intx: It's a boot param. |
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| 18:21.39 | intx | malverian: is it distribution dependent? |
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| 18:21.48 | malverian | intx: No |
| 18:21.58 | malverian | intx: Other than the fact that there is a kernel option that has to be enabled. |
| 18:22.31 | eleftherios | !xmd5 |
| 18:22.31 | dpkg | If you edit your X conffile, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. See <Xorgmd5> if you are running <Xorg> |
| 18:23.53 | malverian | Hmm.. Gentoo has a USE flag for Bash that enables system-wide logging of bash commands.. is there any equivalent to this for Debian? |
| 18:24.14 | DerJamster | eh? bash already logs to .bash_history in the user's dir. |
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| 18:24.22 | malverian | DerJamster: That's not system wide. |
| 18:24.28 | malverian | DerJamster: And the user can disable it. |
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| 18:24.46 | DerJamster | then I assume it's some bash setting I don't know about, but I assume it's compiled in. |
| 18:24.53 | eleftherios | !Xorgmd5 |
| 18:24.53 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case 'md5sum -c /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum' - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've made |
| 18:24.58 | DerJamster | Unless it's part of hardened Gentoo, and a 3rd party patch to bash. |
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| 18:25.43 | blondie | system-wide logging of bash seems evil ;.; |
| 18:25.45 | blondie | BIG BROTHER |
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| 18:26.04 | blondie | and what's to stop the user running csh or another shell ;) |
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| 18:26.56 | DerJamster | blondie: the fact it's not installed? ;P |
| 18:27.12 | blondie | DerJamster: wget www.blah.com/csh |
| 18:27.13 | malverian | blondie: They'd have to compile their own shell and such.. |
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| 18:27.22 | blondie | scp machine:/bin/csh . |
| 18:27.25 | malverian | blondie: Although they could also just use bash scripts to hide things.. |
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| 18:27.41 | malverian | blondie: It's more just for accountability. |
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| 18:27.45 | DerJamster | blondie: whoopsie, looks like the user can't start non-root-owned binaries.. |
| 18:27.53 | malverian | In a production system it's nice to know who rm'd some file... |
| 18:27.58 | intx | malverian: which linux option do I need for changing console resolution? |
| 18:28.03 | intx | malverian: framebuffer? |
| 18:28.29 | malverian | intx: vga=<some-hex-number-representing-resolution-and-pixel-depth> |
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| 18:28.40 | abrotman | vga=771 |
| 18:29.00 | intx | that helps too, thanks |
| 18:29.11 | black_13 | how do i upgade to gcc 3.4 on debian sarge? |
| 18:31.32 | malverian | So I guess there is no option for enabling this? |
| 18:31.41 | karsten | intx: framebuffer as specified by VGA mode. Check values for your HW or read the framebuffer howto. |
| 18:32.33 | malverian | Oh, looks like the gentoo USE flag patched the bash binary... |
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| 18:32.48 | malverian | Rather.. patched hte bash code.. |
| 18:32.51 | solars | hey, does anyone know how to send a mail to a local user if ssmtp is installed ? |
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| 18:34.21 | blondie | malverian: yeah, looks that way... |
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| 18:36.01 | Heart_ | hi |
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| 18:36.49 | Heart_ | is this entry in /etc/network/interface is correct? (especially the essid line) |
| 18:36.50 | Heart_ | http://phpfi.com/179123 |
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| 18:41.32 | zinx | !ops SupeR!n=_-Sarah-@85.106.174.102 yeah. porno spam bot again. |
| 18:41.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: zinx complains about: SupeR!n=_-Sarah-@85.106.174.102 yeah. porno spam bot again. |
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| 18:42.28 | abrotman | zinx: they know you're lonely |
| 18:42.38 | zinx | abrotman: i guess |
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| 18:45.56 | black_13 | how do i upgade to gcc 3.4 on debian sarge? |
| 18:46.03 | black_13 | abrotman? |
| 18:46.09 | Ronin | black_13: have you looked into simple sid backport? |
| 18:46.23 | black_13 | is that safe? |
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| 18:47.01 | Ronin | !tell black_13 about simple sid backport |
| 18:47.06 | abrotman | black_13: apt-cache search gcc 3.4 |
| 18:47.10 | abrotman | black_13: why do you need it ? |
| 18:47.13 | CharminTheMoose | could someone give me a quick rundown of all the files necessary for PAM to work in releation to password authentication? |
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| 18:47.59 | black_13 | abrotman i have been give modules that were compiled using gcc 3.4 and they will not load with the kernel compiled with gcc 3.3 |
| 18:48.00 | Ronin | its in sarge allready black_13 if im not more asleep then i think |
| 18:48.42 | black_13 | Ronin yeah 3.4 is available but if you do gcc -- version you get 3.3 |
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| 18:49.23 | black_13 | i know that gcc is symbolic link but tere are possible other items? |
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| 18:50.41 | Phroziac | what's the command to use dpkg to install a .deb? |
| 18:50.54 | black_13 | dpkg -i |
| 18:51.08 | black_13 | !dpkg dpkg |
| 18:51.16 | Phroziac | thanks |
| 18:51.31 | Phroziac | is that not listed in --help? |
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| 18:51.55 | lsl23 | Anyone have a good dedicated hosting provider they can recomend? |
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| 18:52.05 | black_13 | masterlink |
| 18:52.34 | abrotman | !tell Phroziac about grounding |
| 18:52.35 | black_13 | http://www.masterlink.com/ i use to work for them |
| 18:52.50 | lsl23 | they seem like a marketing company |
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| 18:52.56 | black_13 | !tell black_13 about grounding |
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| 18:53.24 | black_13 | lsl23 they host and they are cheap (desperate) |
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| 18:53.51 | lsl23 | black_13: 24/7 support (reboots network issues etc) |
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| 18:54.17 | black_13 | lsl23 you are asking or telling? |
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| 18:54.24 | lsl23 | lsl23: asking |
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| 18:54.27 | mcgreg | hey |
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| 18:54.45 | black_13 | lsl23 seemed to be pretty good jo jo keeps things working |
| 18:54.47 | mcgreg | are there any impoprtant changes between kernel-image 2.6.18-1 and 2.6.18-3? |
| 18:55.46 | _JusSx_ | mcgreg: i don't think |
| 18:56.27 | black_13 | lsl23 another place in dallas was "the planet" |
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| 18:56.40 | black_13 | i new some people who worked there |
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| 18:58.46 | Red_Cloud | Does anyone know of a good Debian package with a gui that will monitor the temperature of the CPU? |
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| 18:59.17 | mfrisch | Red_Cloud: there are alot some dependent of what desktop u use |
| 18:59.33 | Red_Cloud | mfrisch kde |
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| 19:00.49 | mfrisch | Red_Cloud: I'm more a xfce and gnome guy...check there panel applets I'm sure they have something..You may have to get another program, |
| 19:00.53 | g333k_work | how can I get the PID of firefox? I want to kill firefxo every time I boot my pc, so I need to execute: kill -9 <pid of firefox>, but I dont know how to capture the pid of firefox, any clue? |
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| 19:01.29 | mfrisch | g333kwhy? |
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| 19:02.32 | Jussi | g333k_work: pidof firefox-bin |
| 19:03.07 | mfrisch | Has anyone used the encryption option in the rc1 installer? |
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| 19:04.03 | abrotman | i'm sure someone has |
| 19:04.22 | g333k_work | Jussi, I get 2 numbers... |
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| 19:04.27 | mfrisch | abrotman: I actually have questions too ;-) |
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| 19:04.47 | abrotman | put it back! |
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| 19:05.15 | mentor | abrotman: no |
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| 19:05.55 | abrotman | puhlease! |
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| 19:07.15 | mfrisch | What is a good setup for partition? You can specifiy a dev (like a flash) for the "password" can you do that? Would root need to be seperate for it to work or can I make a lvm containing root? |
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| 19:13.55 | g333k_work | How can I sent the output of one command to another? |
| 19:14.09 | g333k_work | send* |
| 19:14.20 | petemc | g333k_work: | xargs othercommand |
| 19:14.21 | Coweater | a pipe | |
| 19:14.59 | g333k_work | I want to do: kill -9 <pidof firefox-bin>, I mean send the output of pidof to kill |
| 19:15.34 | w0rd54 | g333k_work: could run a killall cmd |
| 19:15.34 | petemc | kill `pidof firefox-bin` |
| 19:15.34 | petemc | erm |
| 19:15.37 | w0rd54 | like killall firefox-bin |
| 19:15.42 | w0rd54 | or what petemc is saying :P |
| 19:15.49 | g333k_work | w0rd54, is the same? |
| 19:15.51 | petemc | g333k_work: why is firefox starting anyway? |
| 19:16.48 | g333k_work | petemc, Sometimes when theres a unexpected reboot the firefox process keep alive.. and my clients cant load firefox because it says that it is already running |
| 19:17.08 | malverian | Where can I adjust modprobe parameters? For example if I want bttv module to load with card=xx,xx,xx,xx ? |
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| 19:18.18 | cahoot | malverian: in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 19:18.30 | malverian | so like create a new file called /etc/modprobe.d/bttv |
| 19:18.40 | malverian | And then in it put "options bttv card=xx,xx,xx,xx" ? |
| 19:19.09 | g333k_work | Does killall kill just user's process? |
| 19:19.22 | malverian | g333k_work: Depends which user you are. |
| 19:20.09 | g333k_work | malverian, if I execute as X user, it will only kill the X's process? |
| 19:20.30 | malverian | g333k_work: It will kill any processes that user is allowed to kill. |
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| 19:20.47 | malverian | If you execute it as uid 0 it will kill every user's processses. |
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| 19:20.53 | aarkerio | Hi! somebody has a Godaddy account? |
| 19:20.54 | malverian | If you execute it as any other uid, it will kill that uid's process. |
| 19:21.07 | abrotman | aarkerio: why? |
| 19:21.43 | aarkerio | I cant find where link my IP with GoDaddy DNS server |
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| 19:22.13 | malverian | cahoot: Looks like that did it.. |
| 19:22.16 | malverian | cahoot: Thanks. |
| 19:22.28 | abrotman | aarkerio: please try #dns |
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| 19:22.40 | aarkerio | thx |
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| 19:26.40 | bushidom | http://marihuana.have-a-rose.com/?s=12082&n=bushido |
| 19:27.15 | abrotman | bushidom: don't spam us |
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| 19:28.29 | g333k_work | malverian, ok thanks |
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| 19:36.04 | Miesco | How come I keep getting these messages: |
| 19:36.06 | Miesco | Message from syslogd@debian at Mon Nov 27 14:35:11 2006 ... |
| 19:36.10 | Miesco | debian kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 19:36.21 | blondie | your cpu is overheating |
| 19:36.28 | shadowarts | debain installs a lot of users, how can i tell if i really need one |
| 19:36.36 | Miesco | How do I make it stop flooding all my terminals |
| 19:36.39 | shadowarts | (like irc forinstance, im not running an irc server, i dont want it) |
| 19:36.52 | blondie | Miesco: improve your CPU's cooling |
| 19:37.08 | lumpki | shadowarts: i would just leave them alone |
| 19:37.16 | Miesco | blondie: How |
| 19:37.21 | lumpki | what does it hurt to leave them? |
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| 19:37.30 | Miesco | blondie: I left the window open so its freezing in here |
| 19:37.37 | blondie | leave the case open |
| 19:37.38 | blondie | but |
| 19:37.50 | black_13 | one more time .. how do i install gcc-3.4 |
| 19:37.51 | blondie | maybe your heatsink isn't fitted properly |
| 19:40.38 | shadowarts | lumpki, extra accounts that can have logins |
| 19:40.48 | evilbulgarian | hi, does anyone know what google video / youtube use to transcode their video's to flash? |
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| 19:43.14 | p3rti | hi... i have a little problem, i have alsa module on my system, and the sound it's too low, but if i rmmod the modules from alsa and then i load the oss module i get the right volume. what i could be? |
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| 19:46.59 | Orion78 | hello can someone help me with htb? transfer rate i got from htb is about 4 times bigger than i set. |
| 19:47.06 | Flimzy | p3rti: Sounds like you need to adjust the volume with alsa |
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| 19:47.48 | p3rti | Flimzy, i have the volume on the max with alsa.. and with oss modules on the mid |
| 19:48.03 | p3rti | Flimzy, and sound better and more high with oss modules :S |
| 19:48.14 | Flimzy | p3rti: You probably have something not set right with alsa. |
| 19:48.40 | p3rti | where i can found information of alsa configuration? |
| 19:48.53 | Guerin | !kingsleysmite Flimzy |
| 19:48.53 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer Flimzy: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.15993160222764! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 19:49.14 | Flimzy | Guerin: ? |
| 19:49.20 | Del_Mon | I've got a scheduled job to convert call recordings "for i in *.wav" but cron complains if there are no .wav files |
| 19:49.21 | Flimzy | p3rti: Google, of course! |
| 19:49.23 | Guerin | Flimzy: just because. |
| 19:49.38 | p3rti | Flimzy, lol |
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| 19:49.56 | Del_Mon | I thought I could stick a "[ -e *.wav ] || exit 0" to fix it, but test doesn't like *.wav |
| 19:50.08 | p3rti | well.. yesterday it was right i dont know what happened before that i upgrade my system |
| 19:50.12 | Flimzy | Grrr |
| 19:50.16 | Flimzy | stupid flash won't display any text |
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| 19:53.24 | p3rti | Flimzy, you have to download the last.. flash9 |
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| 19:54.49 | Flimzy | p3rti, When did that change? It worked a week ago :/ |
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| 19:55.18 | p3rti | Flimzy, i did like 2 days ago! |
| 19:55.26 | Flimzy | hrmph |
| 19:55.44 | Flimzy | Is there a flash9 package for Debian? |
| 19:55.58 | p3rti | Flimzy, i'm thinking that it a bug or sometime like that but when i visit debian.org it doesnt talk about any bug |
| 19:56.02 | p3rti | Flimzy, no |
| 19:56.08 | p3rti | Flimzy, but you can download from another webpage |
| 19:56.14 | p3rti | Flimzy, and copy paste the .so file |
| 19:56.16 | Flimzy | Well I didn't change the software running on the box that worked last week |
| 19:56.25 | Flimzy | so it has to be a change with the web site |
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| 19:58.20 | RvGaTe | Does etch automaticly detect multiple screens ? |
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| 19:58.38 | danbrwn | which file do I edit to add a module to be loaded when i reboot? i forgot where it is |
| 19:59.10 | Flimzy | hrmph |
| 19:59.13 | Flimzy | where do i get the linux version? |
| 19:59.25 | valdyn | RvGaTe: it does not automagically create two X screens, if that is what you mean |
| 19:59.33 | danbrwn | Flimzy: uname -r |
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| 19:59.50 | RvGaTe | valdyn, more like, does it automaticly setup a dual display setup? |
| 19:59.55 | Flimzy | danbrwn: Sorry. I'm speaking in disjointed incomplete sentences. |
| 20:00.09 | Flimzy | danbrwn: I meant to ask wehre to get the flash version for linux... |
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| 20:00.31 | p3rti | if you want i can send you DCC Send file |
| 20:00.33 | Flimzy | But I just found it |
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| 20:01.11 | Flimzy | p3rti: Thanks, but I jsut found it. will test it now |
| 20:01.18 | p3rti | http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html |
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| 20:03.50 | danbrwn | got my answer, edit modules file in /etc to load items at boot up |
| 20:04.25 | black_13 | abrotman i can install gcc 3.4 fine on my debian sarge system how do i make it the compiler that gets used when i compile the kernel? |
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| 20:04.41 | abrotman | CC=blah compileme |
| 20:04.50 | p3rti | abrotman, did you know what happened? if the alsa modules have problems? |
| 20:05.04 | abrotman | what huh ?> |
| 20:05.12 | black_13 | abrotman thanks |
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| 20:06.51 | abrotman | p3rti: what are you talking about ? |
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| 20:07.18 | black_13 | problems installing gcc 3.4 http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XMshmf50.html |
| 20:07.22 | p3rti | abrotman, look.. 2 days ago alsa modules sound fine.. i upgrade my system and now the volume it's too low.. and if i rmmod all the alsa modules and i load the oss module it sound fine!! |
| 20:07.33 | p3rti | abrotman, give a sign!! |
| 20:07.36 | p3rti | :'( |
| 20:07.50 | Flimzy | p3rti: still broke even wtih the new .so |
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| 20:08.06 | p3rti | Flimzy, maybe you need some fonts |
| 20:08.19 | Flimzy | p3rti, No, the box that worked a week ago still doesn't work |
| 20:08.23 | Flimzy | well |
| 20:08.26 | Flimzy | then on second thought |
| 20:08.26 | abrotman | p3rti: stop using OSS .. use the mixer raise *ALL* the levels |
| 20:08.29 | Flimzy | I'll check my fonts |
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| 20:12.00 | floooo`` | Hi, i dont know where to ask so... i have an amamis-new with antivir and spamassassin. My Problem is that antivir (avgate) stores abourt 100 Mails in the avgate mailqueue ( outgoing ) There are 100 Files like this "df-17049-7A5F7421". But the qf... file is Missing for these Mails. Can someone tell me how to resend this Mails? Or how to put them manually ind the postfix queue? I need to deliver these Mails |
| 20:13.08 | p3rti | abrotman, let me see |
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| 20:15.43 | Flimzy | well poop |
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| 20:17.27 | abrotman | floooo``: maybe ask #postfix ? |
| 20:17.49 | black_13 | abrotman would you mind looking at this paste http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XMshmf50.html |
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| 20:18.58 | onetinsoldier | if i enable framebuffer support in grub's menu.lst file with say, vga=798 is it a good idea to also add the option... video=mtrr ...? is that needed if i built mtrr into the kernel? |
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| 20:20.01 | deb40 | I don't see anything in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
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| 20:20.18 | sobersabre | hi, guys. I am planning to setup my own repository for sarge. I guess I will need to setup a mirror. |
| 20:20.32 | sobersabre | which document shall I read out of the debian documentation on this ? |
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| 20:21.04 | sobersabre | and the real Q is how big is the binary+source for say i386 only ? |
| 20:21.31 | pipeline | sobersabre: ~11G |
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| 20:21.44 | pipeline | sobersabre: wait, ~11G is just binaries. Source is probably another 15-20G |
| 20:22.12 | Solarion | Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org./debian/dists/sid/non-free/binary-i386/PackagesIndex MD5Sum mismatch |
| 20:22.12 | abrotman | apt-cache policy gcc-3.4 |
| 20:22.28 | Solarion | W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs: A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 20:22.30 | deb40 | Is http://cdimage.debian.org/ down? |
| 20:22.35 | Solarion | anyone know about these two errors? |
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| 20:23.21 | Solarion | [there is another md5sum mismatch, but that's the only key id] |
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| 20:23.51 | black_13 | abrotman http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uctehP85.html |
| 20:24.26 | Xnerd | just upgraded through apt-get upgrade. just fine but now xserver won´t start properly. when using dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get 2 option listed: XF86 ou xorg. But xorg is not installed (apt-get remove xserver-xorg responds not installed) Any help? |
| 20:24.31 | Solarion | I should also mention that these are when apt-get dist-upgrad'ing |
| 20:24.31 | cydork | !tell Solarion about etch key |
| 20:24.40 | n00rul | is anyone sure about Debian 4.0 release? |
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| 20:24.45 | black_13 | what does "policy" mean? |
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| 20:24.52 | Solarion | cydork: got the link yourself? |
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| 20:25.37 | deb40 | n00rul, I wanted to install it but http://cdimage.debian.org/ is down |
| 20:25.45 | cydork | Solarion, gpg --recv-keys 6070D3A1 ; gpg --export 6070D3A1 |apt-key add - |
| 20:26.05 | n00rul | deb40: I mean when is the stable release. Read somewhere that it will be during Dec 4 |
| 20:26.10 | cydork | Solarion, but for that you need the key server.. |
| 20:26.24 | Solarion | cydork: could I get a more authoritative link than blindly fetching a key? |
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| 20:27.06 | onetinsoldier | deb40: do you have a floppy drive? |
| 20:27.11 | deb40 | Can anyone tell me how big Debian 4.0 DVDs are |
| 20:27.23 | cydork | deb40, guess :) |
| 20:27.25 | deb40 | onetinsoldier, I want DVDs regardless |
| 20:27.28 | onetinsoldier | k |
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| 20:27.43 | cydork | where is dpkg? |
| 20:27.55 | deb40 | cydork, 4.7 G each ? |
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| 20:28.09 | asg | cydork: 14:58 -!- dpkg [n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 20:28.15 | asg | ~test |
| 20:28.16 | apt | Test Passed! |
| 20:28.23 | asg | cydork: use apt for the time being |
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| 20:28.48 | abrotman | black_13: looks there to me |
| 20:29.02 | cydork | asg, etch doesn't have those factoids :( |
| 20:29.02 | Solarion | deb40: http://www.us.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
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| 20:29.26 | Solarion | I would assume that etch is in the testing dvd images link, on the bottom |
| 20:29.26 | aubergine | Hi i just wanted to fill back a dumped mysql database. But the .sql Files exited with an error: ERROR 1064 at line 19: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1' at line 6 |
| 20:29.27 | cydork | should i get a another bot online? |
| 20:29.35 | onetinsoldier | would anyone like to help with some framebuffer questions? |
| 20:29.38 | asg | cydork: if you can remember stew's site, he has catalog of the factoids |
| 20:29.45 | black_13 | abrotman so what deal why do i get error on installation? |
| 20:29.47 | asg | cydork: vireo.org or somesuch |
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| 20:30.36 | Xnerd | just upgraded through apt-get upgrade. just fine but now xserver won´t start properly. when using dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get 2 option listed: XF86 ou xorg. But xorg is not installed (apt-get remove xserver-xorg responds not installed) Any help? |
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| 20:31.04 | black_13 | i tossed the preference file |
| 20:31.30 | deb40 | Solarion, I want 4.0 (since it's about to be stable anyway) and DVDs. The linked site seems to be down |
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| 20:32.30 | cydork | Solarion, http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
| 20:32.56 | Solarion | deb40: I am on that page, so it's not down |
| 20:33.32 | sobersabre | pipeline ... sorry for buggerring... does it have a lot of say weekly traffic ? |
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| 20:33.48 | deb40 | Solarion, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ ? |
| 20:33.49 | sobersabre | does it tend to grow much ? |
| 20:34.14 | pipeline | sobersabre: I wouldn't know. |
| 20:34.18 | sobersabre | ok |
| 20:34.24 | cydork | deb40, http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 20:35.19 | abrotman | !info gcc-3.4 sarge |
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| 20:35.32 | cydork | abrotman, he is dead :( |
| 20:35.36 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:35.43 | abrotman | ~info gcc-3.4 sarge |
| 20:35.54 | CharminTheMoose | !test |
| 20:36.07 | deb40 | cydork, which still points to cdimage.debian.org, which does not work |
| 20:36.11 | black_13 | !info gcc-3.4 sarge |
| 20:36.31 | cydork | deb40, i am on that site.. |
| 20:36.31 | Caelum | is there an alternative method for setting time aside from ntp? our firewall blocks outgoing ntp requests |
| 20:36.34 | abrotman | wtf would someone not in a channel i'm using version me ... |
| 20:36.45 | deb40 | can anyone open http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd |
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| 20:36.56 | Vme | when i login i get my login prompt quickly, but when it takes awhile for it to prompt me for my password? I think it has something to do with DNS but I can't remember how to fix it....? |
| 20:37.02 | Solarion | deb40: bizarre. I could just get to it |
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| 20:37.09 | Caelum | abrotman: to check if you're running a vulnerable irc client, probably |
| 20:37.15 | abrotman | he's in here |
| 20:37.15 | black_13 | great now how do make my stuff compile with gcc-3.4 |
| 20:37.17 | Solarion | deb40: take your bad mojo elsewhere! ;) |
| 20:37.18 | deb40 | cydork, me too, but when you click on i386 in weekly DVDs it points you to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd |
| 20:37.29 | abrotman | immortal-xak-: DO NOT DO THAT |
| 20:37.58 | abrotman | Caelum: he's got two nicks online apparently |
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| 20:38.14 | cydork | deb40, oh ok.. same here.. |
| 20:38.29 | deb40 | cydork, finally .... |
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| 20:39.25 | Xnerd | deb40: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd is down |
| 20:39.35 | Solarion | abrotman: I got a ctcp version from nx23, is he the other nick? |
| 20:39.50 | abrotman | Solarion: he's here as immortal-xak- also |
| 20:40.03 | Solarion | where's an op to zot from on high? :) |
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| 20:40.37 | abrotman | Solarion: doubt it will happen |
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| 20:42.10 | deb40 | While the site is down, can I still use jigdo to d/l "testing" DVDs ? I need to know (for a fact) how big the files are before I start downloading |
| 20:43.25 | RvGaTe | where is the bot ? |
| 20:43.35 | asg | RvGaTe: vacationing in Aruba |
| 20:43.58 | abrotman | asg: corona with lime? |
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| 20:44.07 | shwag | Anyone know the procedure for doing a OS replacement on a remote server? Usually I just rsync the whole filesystem over, with the exception of /sys /proc and /dev , then sometime have to generate a new /dev, fix grub, and configure the network interface. |
| 20:44.28 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 20:44.42 | Xnerd | Hi everyone. Just upgraded through apt-get upgrade (to unstable). Now xserver won´t start properly. when using dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get 2 option listed: XF86 ou xorg. But xorg is not installed (apt-get remove xserver-xorg responds not installed) Any help? |
| 20:44.48 | asg | abrotman: something like that |
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| 20:45.05 | abrotman | !tell k13`off about away |
| 20:45.11 | abrotman | ~tell k13`off about away |
| 20:45.23 | blondie | k13`off: do you mind? |
| 20:45.37 | CharminTehM00se_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:48.41 | deb40 | Is this the wrong channel for discussing Debian "Testing" ? I thought my question was very simple |
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| 20:48.52 | cr3 | how can I just run the configuration step for a package? |
| 20:49.08 | cydork | deb40, yes! you can use the jigdo .. |
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| 20:50.11 | deb40 | cydork, I was asking how big the DVD images were |
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| 20:51.14 | cydork | deb40, around 4.3 i guess :) |
| 20:51.26 | cydork | deb40, not sure about the last one. |
| 20:51.40 | asg | =< 4.3 |
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| 20:52.48 | mike-ekim | im trying to install zimbra on debian, and im getting failed prerequisites errors, where can I download these packages |
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| 20:53.11 | fzzzt | hello, i need to bind an additional IP to an interface. i haven't done this before on debian, but i read online about it. i'm connected remotely so i don't want to screw up the current setup...is it correct to simply do "ifconfig eth1:0 x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x" if eth1 is my interface? could this break routes or my current ssh connection (to eth1)? they're on the same network (it's for a vhost) |
| 20:53.34 | Vme | when i login i get my login prompt quickly, but when it takes awhile for it to prompt me for my password? I think it has something to do with DNS but I can't remember how to fix it....? |
| 20:54.11 | vlt | Hello. I'm using the pdflatex from the tetex-base pkg which is in Debian version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5). On a machine with ubuntu it's version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) and there I can use TTF font files that are in the working directory. On Debian Sarge I get an error msg "font file not found". Does anyone know where to put the ttf, tfm and df files on a Debian machine? |
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| 20:54.34 | cydork | fzzzt, read /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/IP-Alias.gz |
| 20:54.37 | Xnerd | Hi everyone. Just upgraded through apt-get upgrade (to unstable). Now xserver won´t start properly. when using dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i get 2 option listed: XF86 ou xorg. But xorg is not installed (apt-get remove xserver-xorg responds not installed) Any help? |
| 20:54.46 | fzzzt | cydork, ok thanks |
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| 20:55.56 | fzzzt | hrm this machine doesn't have that file |
| 20:55.58 | cydork | Xnerd, install it then |
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| 20:56.23 | cydork | fzzzt, which version debian are you using? |
| 20:56.30 | Xnerd | cydork: i tried. only received error message |
| 20:56.41 | deb40 | will it be easy to upgrade from current "testing" to Debian-stable 4.0 ? |
| 20:56.49 | Knorrie | yes |
| 20:56.50 | cydork | Xnerd, which were? |
| 20:56.55 | PaSurf | I am looking to install debian on an AMD64 system. What and where would I get the iso for this install? |
| 20:57.03 | cydork | deb40, yep just keep etch in the sources.list |
| 20:57.03 | deb40 | Knorrie, who are you talking to |
| 20:57.09 | Knorrie | deb40: you |
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| 20:57.33 | PaSurf | Currently, when I do an install, system basically stalls after ejecting CD and shows lots of 99's |
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| 20:57.41 | deb40 | cydork, huge downloads won't be involved during the upgrade? |
| 20:57.47 | Knorrie | deb40: just as cydork says, change testing to etch in sources.list and there's nothing you need to do when the release is there |
| 20:57.55 | cydork | deb40, nope... |
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| 20:59.10 | deb40 | You guys sound over-confident, like army recruiters outside Walmart :-) |
| 20:59.33 | Knorrie | we are :) |
| 20:59.37 | Xnerd | cydork: dependencies not satisfied: xserver-xorg-core (won't be installed; xserver-xorg-input-all (idem); xserver-xorg-input (predepend on x11-common(ibidem)) |
| 20:59.57 | Knorrie | i mean we are confident, we're not outside of the wallmart :D |
| 21:00.12 | cydork | Xnerd, paste you sources.list in a pastebin |
| 21:00.16 | PaSurf | Ok, I am trying to install Debian Sarge onto my amd64 system. I have a new iso I dl today and the install goes fine. after the cd eject, system says its trying to boot from the CD, then is looking to boot off the c: drive. I have had sarge on this machine before, and understand amd64 support is already included on the i386 iso.. any ideas? |
| 21:00.17 | cydork | ~paster |
| 21:00.18 | apt | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
| 21:00.21 | Xnerd | cydork: E:damaged packages |
| 21:00.23 | fzzzt | cydork, i dunno, it's not my machine. i bet it's old...most of this place's machines are. cat /proc/version says "Debian 1:3.3.5-12" if that tells you (i dont use linux much, unix mostly, sorry for being a noob :)) |
| 21:00.58 | cydork | fzzzt, that's the gcc version with which the kernel was compiled |
| 21:01.31 | fzzzt | ok |
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| 21:01.31 | Knorrie | fzzzt: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:01.36 | fzzzt | ah, that says 3.1 |
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| 21:02.27 | deb40 | Knorrie, are you sure I won't have to go to Iraq if I install Debian "testing" ? |
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| 21:03.46 | Knorrie | deb40: I'm sorry, Iraq has no debian download mirror... http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 21:04.00 | mike-ekim | where can i find nptl packagre |
| 21:04.12 | asg | mike-ekim: install libc6-686 |
| 21:04.20 | aubergine | how can i change my console to utf-8 ? |
| 21:04.50 | ofer0 | aubergine, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:04.50 | Xnerd | cydork: http://pastebin.com/828790 |
| 21:04.58 | ofer0 | aubergine, export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 |
| 21:05.02 | ofer0 | aubergine, export LANG=en_US.utf8 |
| 21:05.10 | ofer0 | aubergine, and you're done. nice nick. |
| 21:05.16 | mike-ekim | k |
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| 21:05.24 | aubergine | thank ya |
| 21:05.36 | mike-ekim | hm |
| 21:05.38 | mike-ekim | opacklage was not found |
| 21:05.41 | mike-ekim | package* |
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| 21:08.21 | mike-ekim | where can i find it |
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| 21:09.39 | aubergine | i must type the following entry to the console: fr_ÿÿÿÿ/ but it doesnt show the ÿ. how can i realise that? |
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| 21:10.10 | dondelelcaro | aubergine: you need to be using a font that can display the ÿ |
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| 21:11.03 | aubergine | i use putty |
| 21:11.19 | dondelelcaro | that doesn't really make a difference. |
| 21:11.33 | aubergine | what must i do? |
| 21:11.43 | dondelelcaro | aubergine: you need to be using a font that can display the ÿ |
| 21:11.50 | onetinsoldier | hi, would anyone like to try and help me get console framebuffer support working? |
| 21:11.58 | Xnerd | cydork: sorry. gave the wrong link here is the correct one: http://pastebin.com/834108 |
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| 21:13.35 | aubergine | dondelelcaro: what a font? i use putty and bash. the error was showed that fr_ÿÿÿÿ is a duplicate and so i must remove it |
| 21:13.45 | michu | Anyone use linuxdcpp ? |
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| 21:13.55 | aubergine | but so i must type it in the console and i cannt |
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| 21:15.13 | dondelelcaro | aubergine: if you're talking about inputting it, that's a different issue. I don't know how putty does it's compose support. If you're using X, you run compose-"-y. |
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| 21:15.47 | H3g3m0n | How do i keep a testing/Etch system uptodate? |
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| 21:16.22 | craigevil | H3g3m0n: aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 21:16.41 | ale00 | Anybody with a matrox G400/450? Is it safe to upgrede to X.org 1:7.1.0-7 ? (#399509 xserver-xorg-video-mga: hangs after switch to console and back) |
| 21:17.45 | H3g3m0n | craigevil: ta |
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| 21:19.16 | kreuter | howdy, #debian. is there a way to make apt-get/aptitude always install documentation packages for packages that have documentation? |
| 21:20.23 | dondelelcaro | kreuter: the documentation packages should always be suggested or recommended; you can cause them to be automatically installed if you want. |
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| 21:20.45 | kreuter | dondelelcaro: won |
| 21:20.48 | kreuter | oops |
| 21:21.13 | kreuter | dondelelcaro: are you suggesting always installing the suggested packages? |
| 21:21.19 | dondelelcaro | kreuter: that's the only way to do it. |
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| 21:21.23 | kreuter | drat. |
| 21:21.33 | JordiGH | Hmm... When does a developer count as MIA? |
| 21:21.35 | JordiGH | !maint libnoise-dev |
| 21:21.53 | onetinsoldier | dpkg still dead? |
| 21:21.53 | dpkg | yes :( |
| 21:22.01 | onetinsoldier | oh! |
| 21:22.05 | JordiGH | Dude's got quite a backlog: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=fog@debian.org;dist=unstable |
| 21:22.06 | jelly-home | !test |
| 21:22.06 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 21:22.11 | onetinsoldier | lol |
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| 21:22.21 | JordiGH | dpkg, are you there? |
| 21:22.23 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: if you care, your best best is to submit packages. |
| 21:22.24 | dpkg | libnoise-dev: Federico Di Gregorio <fog@debian.org> |
| 21:22.34 | JordiGH | It is. :-) |
| 21:22.34 | hutchy | hi. how to unload all unused modules ? |
| 21:22.35 | dondelelcaro | s/packages/patches/ |
| 21:22.57 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: I sorta have a patch for one of the bug reports I submitted. I could easily make another patch for the other one... |
| 21:23.29 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: would sending patches matter if the maintainer wasn't responsive? |
| 21:23.34 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: I need to nag someone else to make a NMU, right? |
| 21:23.35 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: it always matters |
| 21:23.55 | dondelelcaro | not for the least of which is making the maintainer (or anyone else who comes in later to NMU's) life easier. |
| 21:24.15 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: if he really is mia; let me see. |
| 21:24.49 | hutchy | does anyone here have any clue as to how to unload unused modules and if it's advisable at all ? |
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| 21:25.39 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: yeah, he's MIA |
| 21:25.40 | onetinsoldier | hutchy: rmmod command |
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| 21:25.52 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: some packages have been orphaned already. |
| 21:26.04 | JordiGH | :-( |
| 21:26.08 | hutchy | onetinsoldier, that works for 1 module. i am talking about all unused ones. thanks =) |
| 21:26.18 | JordiGH | Libnoise seems easy to maintain... Can I adopt it? |
| 21:26.25 | JordiGH | I guess I need to prove my worth first. :-/ |
| 21:26.28 | onetinsoldier | hutchy: yeah.. i'm not sure how to do that |
| 21:26.41 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: if you find someone to sponsor it for you; file patches for the bugs and make sure it's at the newest upstream, and I'll consider sponsoring it. |
| 21:26.52 | hutchy | onetinsoldier, cool. =) |
| 21:27.06 | onetinsoldier | hutchy: perhaps remove them from /etc/modules ...? |
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| 21:27.26 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: My patches are minor things... about documentation and putting the right #include paths in some sample upstream code. I'll RFS a patch tomorrow or the day after. |
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| 21:29.08 | Malagmyr | How the heck do you google for ^ ? |
| 21:29.13 | dondelelcaro | you don't.... |
| 21:29.21 | dondelelcaro | there are some symbols that google doesn't index. |
| 21:29.27 | Malagmyr | :/ |
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| 21:29.59 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: Can only DD see if other DDs are MIA? |
| 21:30.36 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: the mia database is only available to DDs, yes... |
| 21:31.19 | centrx | what about if they are killed in action |
| 21:31.45 | dondelelcaro | centrx: then we press the big red button. |
| 21:33.05 | JordiGH | Man, linker errors must be the single most common request for help in library's mailing lists. Doesn't anyone know how to link? |
| 21:33.11 | JordiGH | libraries' |
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| 21:33.32 | Malagmyr | what package has the banual for scanf and such+ |
| 21:33.33 | Malagmyr | ? |
| 21:34.03 | dondelelcaro | Malagmyr: manpages-dev; |
| 21:34.06 | dondelelcaro | !tell Malagmyr -about pdo |
| 21:34.08 | enouf | hutchy: modprobe -r is hte better way to remove them (insmod and rmmod are deprecated as of 2.6) see man modprobe .. look at the -r option |
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| 21:35.00 | enouf | hutchy: unless you never want them loaded .. in which case you need to do something else |
| 21:35.32 | enouf | hutchy: like remove them from /etc/modules or blackilist them .. /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 21:35.35 | shadowarts | i want to install a package with different configure settings when it compiles, how can i do this |
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| 21:36.27 | JordiGH | shadowarts: Get the source package and compile it however you wish to compile it. Modify the debian/rules Makefile to put different compilation flags. If you think your idea of how to compile the package should be adopted, consider filing a bug. |
| 21:36.39 | JordiGH | shadowarts: You can get the source package by writing apt-get source packagename. |
| 21:37.07 | onetinsoldier | hi, would anyone like to try and help me get console framebuffer support working? |
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| 21:37.56 | JordiGH | shadowarts: Also, read the new maintainer's guide if you wish to know how to build Debian packages. You'll be particularly interested in dpkg-buildpackage. |
| 21:38.04 | JordiGH | !n-m |
| 21:38.08 | JordiGH | !nmg |
| 21:38.08 | dpkg | nmg is, like, Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 21:40.13 | shadowarts | alright ill look into that JordiGH thank you |
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| 21:40.38 | MustangMatt | I miss the weekly news. |
| 21:40.47 | MustangMatt | Is anyone going to take over that project? |
| 21:41.31 | jelly-home | MustangMatt: are you volunteering? |
| 21:41.47 | abrotman | MustangMatt: there's been a few attempts at it .. check joeyh's blog |
| 21:41.51 | Running_aim | hello i have downloaded the debian dvd..do u know when i install it if it autoconfigures my hardware or if i need to compile them as u need to do in slackware? |
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| 21:42.41 | abrotman | !u |
| 21:42.42 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:42.46 | abrotman | should autoconfigure hopefully |
| 21:42.49 | EdLin | Running_aim: why don't you boot it up and find out? |
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| 21:43.09 | Running_aim | :) |
| 21:43.10 | JordiGH | Running_aim: No compilation necessary. :-) |
| 21:43.18 | Running_aim | thanx |
| 21:43.27 | JordiGH | What were the weekly news? |
| 21:43.41 | JordiGH | abrotman: Joey? The guy who wrote the NMG? |
| 21:43.54 | abrotman | Joey Hess |
| 21:43.58 | MustangMatt | jelly-home: Jelly I might be interested in volunteering. I'm not sure I could do as good of a job as whoever was previously doing it however. |
| 21:44.02 | abrotman | joey is martin .. joeyh is joey |
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| 21:46.38 | MustangMatt | I'm having difficulty finding any information on Joey Hess' page about the news. Any further links, etc.? |
| 21:46.51 | MustangMatt | Ah wait... Maybe I just found it. |
| 21:47.39 | JordiGH | Maths time. Toodles. |
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| 21:50.53 | DARKGirl | hello everyone! |
| 21:51.03 | MustangMatt | Hello dg |
| 21:51.20 | DARKGirl | http://rafb.net/paste/results/BJ9t9554.html |
| 21:51.26 | DARKGirl | can anyone tell me what the issue is? |
| 21:51.32 | DARKGirl | or at least what is happening? |
| 21:51.39 | DARKGirl | and why I cant execute the application? |
| 21:51.41 | abrotman | which version of Debian? |
| 21:51.47 | DARKGirl | it appears to load, but it doesnt |
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| 21:52.55 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: looks like typical buggy gnome/gtk application |
| 21:52.59 | DARKGirl | and when i try to tun it from the console, i get that |
| 21:53.13 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: i realize the output you quoted looked 'interesting' and 'informative', but it really isn't |
| 21:53.36 | DARKGirl | it isnt? |
| 21:53.42 | DARKGirl | what do you mean |
| 21:54.01 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: it's just a bunch of "you bad program!" and "you bad program!" after another ... |
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| 21:54.29 | livingtm | I would like an nfs or samba mount to my server to auto mount when i am on the local net with the server. is this possible? |
| 21:54.39 | livingtm | on a laptop |
| 21:55.22 | DARKGirl | wait, i just installed gtk recently |
| 21:55.27 | DARKGirl | should i restart the computer? |
| 21:56.10 | MustangMatt | DARKGirl: What application is causing those errors anyway? (or did I miss that in the conversation?) |
| 21:56.16 | DARKGirl | i installed GTK+ 1.2 and GTK+ 2.0 devel |
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| 21:56.25 | eeyore- | MustangMatt: "purebasic" --- it's right there in the output |
| 21:56.44 | MustangMatt | Ah I'm blind. |
| 21:57.16 | MustangMatt | Wow... they ported the evil that is VB to linux. |
| 21:57.24 | DARKGirl | ah so theres nothing i can do? |
| 21:57.25 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: no, this is linux. generally speaking, you don't that kind of "need to restart computer to fix mysterious problems" |
| 21:57.30 | abrotman | DARKGirl: which version of debian ? |
| 21:57.38 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: it's entirely reproducible. crap software is crap software. |
| 21:57.57 | DARKGirl | hmm |
| 21:58.02 | MustangMatt | DARKGirl: They do have email addresses on their support page: http://www.purebasic.com/support.php3 |
| 21:58.09 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: what are you doing with purebasic anyway? |
| 21:58.21 | DARKGirl | im an application developer |
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| 21:58.28 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: if you're learning to program (absolute beginner) there are other choices |
| 21:58.35 | DARKGirl | um, no i am not |
| 21:58.54 | DARKGirl | purebasic is just as good (and powerful) as C++ |
| 21:59.05 | DARKGirl | its nothing like VB |
| 21:59.08 | DARKGirl | VB is crap |
| 21:59.17 | eeyore- | mmmmmmkay :-) that's veering into language flamewars |
| 21:59.21 | abrotman | which version of Debian ? |
| 21:59.36 | karsten | abrotman: Microsoft Ubuntu Redhat Debian. |
| 21:59.44 | eeyore- | karsten: ROFL |
| 21:59.52 | abrotman | DARKGirl: which version of debian is this running on ? |
| 21:59.56 | craigevil | DARKGirl: why not use http://www.realbasic.com/ if you must use basci and Linux |
| 22:00.03 | DARKGirl | no way |
| 22:00.08 | DARKGirl | heh |
| 22:00.13 | abrotman | DARKGirl: are you even running Debian ? |
| 22:00.17 | DARKGirl | ill just pester the developer |
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| 22:00.59 | DARKGirl | abrotman: YES, i am running Debian, the version is irrelevant to the issue at hand. You heard the man, crap software is crap software |
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| 22:01.31 | abrotman | DARKGirl: actually .. it's not .. but go ahead and have a good time |
| 22:01.37 | eeyore- | karsten: Microsoft Novell SuSE Linux! |
| 22:01.52 | w0rd54 | DARKGirl: don't worry, abrotman can be abrasive sometimes....just ask question in another dev chan |
| 22:02.10 | eeyore- | abrotman: look at the output :-) purebasic couldn't even get loading of bitmaps correct. what else did they screw up? |
| 22:02.32 | abrotman | w0rd54: golly .. do you think it might be relevant? |
| 22:03.01 | abrotman | eeyore-: i did look at it .. but i doubt that'd be fatal |
| 22:03.20 | DARKGirl | its weird, the application pops up then goes away |
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| 22:03.56 | abrotman | DARKGirl: you can try a strace or ltrace .. or learn how to compile it with debugging symbols to help the developer |
| 22:04.33 | eeyore- | abrotman: it's one gtk assertion failed after another ... this is generally not *fatal*, however the program then got a X error ... "badalloc", probably from one of those invalid pixmaps |
| 22:04.58 | abrotman | eeyore-: they tried to use a TIFF as an icon! |
| 22:05.02 | eeyore- | there's a *slight* chance that the badalloc is from running the client against some weird X server (say, hummingbird 10-ish), but i doubt it |
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| 22:05.57 | abrotman | eeyore-: and as the log says .. errors are recieved asynchrnonously .. so there's no telling which caused it |
| 22:06.42 | abrotman | my spelling sucks! |
| 22:06.51 | eeyore- | abrotman: if i had to guess, i still pin it on gdk oops :-) |
| 22:06.51 | DARKGirl | so should i try with the -sync option? |
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| 22:07.24 | abrotman | DARKGirl: try to strace or ltrace first .. though that might be hard to follow |
| 22:07.35 | onetinsoldier | hi, would anyone like to try and help me get console framebuffer support working? |
| 22:07.38 | DARKGirl | im not sure how to use those commands |
| 22:07.44 | abrotman | DARKGirl: they have man pages |
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| 22:08.04 | abrotman | DARKGirl: more than likely .. best way to proceed is to ask the developer what you can do to be the most help resolving the issue |
| 22:08.07 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: it could be "bad for your health" (console framebuffer) |
| 22:08.12 | onetinsoldier | lol |
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| 22:08.27 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: do you plan to run X? |
| 22:08.34 | onetinsoldier | i usexd to use it years ago.. i liked it very much. i miss it |
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| 22:09.09 | onetinsoldier | eeyore: i am running X. framebuffer support isn't necessary for me, it would just be nice |
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| 22:09.45 | GooE | can i add any program i want in hosts.allow file ? |
| 22:10.04 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: if you plan to run X, you might consider: (a) not running framebuffer console (some X drivers don't like it), or (b) stick with vesafb, since it has no issues with grabbing resources needed by X, or (c) run specific framebuffer driver and run slooooooow X (no DRI) |
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| 22:10.37 | DARKGirl | should i try to reinstall gtk? |
| 22:10.48 | eeyore- | DARKGirl: knock yourself out :-) |
| 22:10.51 | abrotman | DARKGirl: is it sarge ? |
| 22:10.57 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: hmmm, no dri would suck |
| 22:11.06 | DARKGirl | i dunno what sarge is |
| 22:11.08 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: right, so stick with vesafb |
| 22:11.19 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: video card? |
| 22:11.42 | abrotman | DARKGirl: then which version of debian are you running? `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1` |
| 22:12.01 | abrotman | DARKGirl: the version of gtk in sarge just might be too old to work with this app |
| 22:12.21 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: hang on |
| 22:12.23 | abrotman | admittedly .. the configure script should know what it needs |
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| 22:13.02 | abrotman | DARKGirl: you sure you're not using kanotix ? |
| 22:13.32 | Xnerd | cydork: sorry to bother you could you take a look at my sources.list? gave u the wrong link here is the correct one: http://pastebin.com/834108 |
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| 22:14.10 | abrotman | dpkg: what does sng pay you for |
| 22:14.11 | dpkg | often sng begs for anal stimulation, abrotman, but I've really had enough... |
| 22:14.14 | sng | Slow slow fast fast slow. |
| 22:14.32 | cydork | Xnerd, it's slooow! |
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| 22:15.07 | DARKGirl | hmm thats being weird |
| 22:15.11 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: hello... it's a Radeon X800 XT PE |
| 22:15.12 | Xnerd | cydork: i'll paste it elsewhere. just a sec |
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| 22:17.49 | Xnerd | cydork: http://jindal.pastebin.ca/259969 |
| 22:17.58 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: sorry, i was finishing up in another irc channel... it's a Radeon X800 XT Platnium Edition. i'm using a custom compiled kernel. i need to check to make certain, but i believe that vesafb and radeonfb are currently compiled as modules. i hope you're still here! |
| 22:18.32 | cydork | Xnerd, you are mixing stable and sarge.. not a good thing to do.. |
| 22:19.08 | Xnerd | cydork: i've erased unstable. what do u suggest? delete wich one? |
| 22:19.12 | onetinsoldier | enouf: hello |
| 22:19.15 | cydork | Xnerd, run dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
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| 22:20.13 | enouf | onetinsoldier: hola |
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| 22:20.37 | onetinsoldier | enouf: howdy.. eeyore- seems to be afk atm |
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| 22:21.03 | enouf | onetinsoldier: I have an old nvidia 32MB agp card .. and I use the 'nv' driver .. which doi you use ? radeon? or ati? |
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| 22:21.16 | onetinsoldier | enouf: fglrx |
| 22:21.17 | enouf | onetinsoldier: though that's for X i guess |
| 22:21.36 | enouf | onetinsoldier: ahh .. the ati proprietary one |
| 22:21.43 | onetinsoldier | yep... those are for X... sure enough |
| 22:21.43 | enouf | onetinsoldier: you on etch? |
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| 22:21.46 | Xnerd | cydork: returns: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 22:21.48 | onetinsoldier | yes.. etch |
| 22:22.23 | enouf | ok .. If you happen to come across a nick called pinBallWiz .. he could use your help :-) with a x1300 |
| 22:22.36 | MoDaX | cydork: stable is sarge (still)! |
| 22:22.38 | cydork | Xnerd, congrats you are running unstable.. |
| 22:22.49 | onetinsoldier | enouf: i used to use framebuffer support years ago... it rocks! i'd really like to get it going again. as i recall i had it working along with X |
| 22:22.53 | enouf | onetinsoldier: I think I have a bookmarked page about framebuffer console .. hold a sc |
| 22:23.00 | kinglsey_ | How can one tell if Xorg is using nvidia's closed source driver, or its open source alternative? |
| 22:23.08 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: here's the deal |
| 22:23.14 | cydork | MoDaX, sorry i am drunk :P |
| 22:23.27 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: if you have DFP, radeonfb will make the most of the panel in framebuffer console mode, however ... |
| 22:23.30 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok, i'm listening.. and so is enouf ;) |
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| 22:23.44 | abrotman | kinglsey_: xorg.log or xorg.conf |
| 22:23.47 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: however, once you load radeonfb, you can't use fglrx and get DRI (because radeonfb will have taken the resource) |
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| 22:24.01 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: arrrgh.... |
| 22:24.06 | Xnerd | cydork: thanks. So what changes should i make to sources.list to make it consistent? delete stable AND sarge entries? |
| 22:24.11 | MoDaX | kinglsey_: nvidia is non-free, nv is open source |
| 22:24.26 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: is DRI used for 2D support in X? |
| 22:24.27 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: so if you want to use fglrx, you're limited to using vesafb, which might *not* get the new wonderful DFP modes (1366x768, 1680x1050, forget it) |
| 22:24.48 | enouf | eeyore-: hrm .. there'as no way to tell it differently when switching back and forth to X? |
| 22:24.57 | MoDaX | onetinsoldier: no |
| 22:25.00 | eeyore- | enouf: to do what? |
| 22:25.03 | cydork | Xnerd, well it's like this, unstable is *unstable* and you cant go back to sarge.. |
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| 22:25.13 | enouf | eeyore-: enable frambuffer for console only |
| 22:25.13 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i don't think i need DFP modes... i want 1600x1200. the native res of my monitor |
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| 22:25.23 | MoDaX | Xnerd: what do you want to do? |
| 22:25.31 | eeyore- | enouf: no, loading radeonfb implies you want full acceleration ... so, no |
| 22:25.44 | enouf | eeyore-: nut I'll sit by and watch and learn .. ok .. I hear ya |
| 22:25.49 | Supaplex | ouuu employee pricing on debian ;-) |
| 22:25.53 | onetinsoldier | MoDa: ok.. didn't think so, thank you |
| 22:25.53 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: i can't even get 1600x1200 on my DFP :-) (radeon) |
| 22:26.05 | miaumiua | Hi!Please visit to new site! and have all you need:chat, forum,news and meny more! http://itklubas.anfor.net/ |
| 22:26.14 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: no? |
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| 22:26.23 | Supaplex | !ops miaumiua = spam |
| 22:26.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: supaplex complains about: miaumiua = spam |
| 22:26.34 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: no. install the lrmi package (or maybe just vbetest) and run "vbetest" |
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| 22:26.43 | kinglsey_ | abrotman, MoDaX : Thanks. |
| 22:26.47 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: if i do hwinfo --framebuffer i show 1600x1200 as an available mode |
| 22:26.48 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: vbetest will list the modes that are available to you via vesa call |
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| 22:27.00 | h7-25 | anyone in here running openldap with postgresql backend on sarge? |
| 22:27.03 | Xnerd | MoDax: ist easy to stay with unstable, right? |
| 22:27.15 | cast | cilkay: ahh. |
| 22:27.17 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: DFP = Digital Flat Panel? |
| 22:27.28 | cydork | Xnerd, yes you can run unstable but it's not that easy.. |
| 22:27.28 | MoDaX | Xnerd: unstable is fine for me |
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| 22:27.38 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: only what vbetest show you, you can use as framebuffer mode via vesafb. radeonfb goes to the hardware and figures out the full capabilities, but like i said, this won't make X happy. |
| 22:27.43 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: yeah, DFP |
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| 22:28.10 | MoDaX | Xnerd: don't go with sarge for desktop, it's too old |
| 22:28.15 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok.. to run vbetest do i need to load my radeonfb module? |
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| 22:28.55 | MoDaX | Xnerd: install etch. it should be ok |
| 22:28.56 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: no |
| 22:28.59 | onetinsoldier | E: Couldn't find package lrmi |
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| 22:29.07 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: you might have to compile it yourself |
| 22:29.13 | onetinsoldier | oh! |
| 22:29.17 | onetinsoldier | where do i get it? |
| 22:29.18 | Xnerd | MoDax: Wha options do i have besides reinstall? i have a pentium III 500 w/ 128 ram and a geforce mx 32mb. running 2.6.8-386. any hints? |
| 22:29.30 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lrmi/ |
| 22:29.40 | MoDaX | Xnerd: dist-upgrade ? |
| 22:30.16 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: keep in mind the modes listed by vbetest are written in decimal. to get usable vga=<x> mode, you have to convert to hex, add 0x200, and that's the number to use |
| 22:30.18 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: apt-cache search lrmi shows... vbetool - run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state |
| 22:30.27 | Xnerd | MoDax: too wich one? 4.0? stable? sarge? unstable? |
| 22:30.33 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: yeah, that one |
| 22:30.45 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok, let me install it |
| 22:30.47 | MoDaX | Xnerd: sarge=stable, etch=testing, sid=unstable |
| 22:30.51 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: uh wait |
| 22:30.54 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 22:30.56 | cydork | Xnerd, you cant to anyother version than unstable.. |
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| 22:31.09 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: go grab the lrmi package. i'm not sure if vbetool is the same thing, probably not |
| 22:31.39 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok, it will take me a little time to get it, unpack, and compile of course |
| 22:31.41 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: no, definitely not :-) vbetool is useful, but not for what we want to do |
| 22:31.58 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok, roger |
| 22:32.13 | MoDaX | Xnerd: if you're running sarge, upgrade to etch |
| 22:32.44 | MoDaX | Xnerd: kernel version suggests you're running sarge |
| 22:32.46 | cydork | MoDaX, <Xnerd> cydork: returns: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: |
| 22:32.49 | eeyore- | alright man, i hope this machine is up soon so i can dupe the image to three others. then we'll have a tiny compute farm of four (wow! :-p) core2 duo machines |
| 22:32.57 | eeyore- | poor man's compute farm :-) |
| 22:33.13 | MoDaX | Xnerd: install a new kernel then |
| 22:33.14 | cydork | MoDaX, and he had unstable and sarge in his sources.list. |
| 22:33.20 | eeyore- | maybe next year we'll have the budget ... and the building ... |
| 22:33.41 | Xnerd | MoDax: uname -r returns 2.6.8-3-686 |
| 22:34.05 | MoDaX | Xnerd: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.18-2-686 |
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| 22:35.12 | eeyore- | so, what are you all running, cpu-wise? |
| 22:35.46 | onetinsoldier | Northwood 3.4 GHz P4 here |
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| 22:37.03 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: nice core, it's almost fast enough to playback HDTV ... still stutters every now and then |
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| 22:37.47 | varun | hi |
| 22:37.49 | enouf | eeyore-: would you happen to know if I can use the nvidiafb module along with the already loaded nvidia_agp and agpgart that I'm using now? I'm using 'nv' in X on a 32MB AGP nvidia tnt2pro .. |
| 22:37.53 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: i have the dell optiplex tiny form factor one with the ati card, and it's *almost* good enough, but still drop frames. the insane thing is my EPIA SP1300 does much better job! |
| 22:37.54 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: sounds cool. i've never experienced hdtv. |
| 22:38.22 | varun | how do i get xfce (xfwm) to start with x |
| 22:38.30 | MoDaX | eeyore-: hdtv is mpeg2, isn't it? |
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| 22:38.51 | enouf | eeyore-: I mean I'm not sure that's even necessary .. i'm just interested in perhaps adding color to console if possible |
| 22:39.05 | onetinsoldier | varun: i use gdm to start of xfwm... but i think you can run.... startxfce4 |
| 22:39.06 | MoDaX | varun: install kdm or gdm which will let you choose desktop environment |
| 22:39.06 | eeyore- | MoDaX: yes |
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| 22:39.15 | enouf | MoDaX: hdtv is either 750p or 1080i .. IINM |
| 22:39.23 | enouf | ooops |
| 22:39.31 | varun | and how do i do it with xfwm? |
| 22:39.34 | enouf | 720p anyways |
| 22:39.35 | varun | @modax |
| 22:39.37 | eeyore- | enouf: basically, vesafb is good enough to get acceleration on nvidia platforms, and you get most modes, too. run vbetest to figure out the mode you need/want :-) |
| 22:39.37 | MoDaX | varun: or update-alternatives --config x-session-manager |
| 22:39.47 | varun | thc |
| 22:39.48 | varun | thx |
| 22:39.56 | enouf | eeyore-: okie .. I hear ya |
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| 22:40.06 | MoDaX | varun: I have no experience with xfwm |
| 22:40.27 | onetinsoldier | varun: gdm bings up a menu of 'seesions' to choose from... startxfce4 starts it up from console |
| 22:40.34 | enouf | eeyore-: thanks |
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| 22:40.59 | eeyore- | enouf: on my nvidia laptop (quadro gogl), i can get vesafb to drive the panel at 1600x1200 and get gensplash (gentoo) console and stuff |
| 22:41.00 | MoDaX | enouf: so I do understand that 1920 needs more power, but lower res should be fine |
| 22:41.02 | freeone3000 | !nvidia one-liner |
| 22:41.02 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
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| 22:41.41 | eeyore- | MoDaX: the unichrome pro chipset (CN400, *not* CN700) can do 2048x2048 hardware-assisted decoding |
| 22:42.26 | eeyore- | MoDaX: the non-pro chips (CLE266, for example) are limited to 1024x1024 - so they're effectively SDTV only |
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| 22:43.09 | MoDaX | eeyore-: ok |
| 22:43.09 | eeyore- | MoDaX: using xine and unichrome driver + xine's xxmc support, my CPU usage is around 3-5% on dvd playback :-) |
| 22:43.26 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i did get an error with 'make install'.... install -m 644 -s -p lrmi.h /usr/local/include/lrmi.h |
| 22:43.26 | onetinsoldier | strip: /usr/local/include/lrmi.h: File format not recognized |
| 22:43.27 | onetinsoldier | install: strip failed |
| 22:43.27 | onetinsoldier | make: *** [install] Error 1 |
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| 22:44.01 | onetinsoldier | oops |
| 22:44.04 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: ignore it, as long as you have the binary, you don't need the header :-) don't even bother installing it |
| 22:44.09 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 22:44.53 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: did you run it? |
| 22:45.01 | freeone3000 | Unless you know, want to run it as a library. |
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| 22:45.41 | eeyore- | freeone3000: LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/arbitrary/shared-object ./foo |
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| 22:46.17 | JaMaLz | is grub-splashimages working or not |
| 22:46.35 | eeyore- | JaMaLz: of course |
| 22:46.50 | JaMaLz | eeyore- : but before it wasn;t working |
| 22:46.52 | eeyore- | JaMaLz: image must be xpm, with some special constraint |
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| 22:47.09 | MustangMatt | Semi-OT: But did Hans Reiser ever get convicted of killing his wife or is it still going through the courts? |
| 22:47.16 | JaMaLz | eeyore- : so is there a sample ? |
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| 22:48.20 | eeyore- | JaMaLz: probably, mine has this line -> 640 480 16 1 <- 640x480 resolution, 16 colors, clear is color #1 (i think, that last part) |
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| 22:50.13 | RvGaTe | !seen mp_ |
| 22:50.14 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'mp_', RvGaTe |
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| 22:52.37 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: hello, i had a problem. you still here? |
| 22:53.30 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: yeah |
| 22:53.34 | onetinsoldier | cool |
| 22:53.40 | Trewas | MustangMatt: AFAIK hans has been charged for murder but the case is not in the courts yet |
| 22:53.56 | eeyore- | Trewas: ooooh. creepy. |
| 22:54.00 | onetinsoldier | ok.. i ran vbetest, and then pressed 'q' to quit |
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| 22:55.02 | Trewas | though that happened a month ago or something, there was lot of evidence but everything circumstantial... murder charges without body are presumably quite rare :) |
| 22:55.17 | acc_ | Is there a way that I can keep an older package (emacs-snapshot 1:20061015-1) around while I test out a newer version? Thanks. |
| 22:55.45 | evilbulgarian | anyone know what .gfp extension stands for |
| 22:56.20 | Supaplex | evilbulgarian: is it in /etc/mime.types? |
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| 22:56.58 | Supaplex | humm not in mine. what's it work with? what's file(1) say it is? |
| 22:57.03 | acc_ | I'm not looking to have both packages installed concurrently, but I do want to keep a backup of an older version. |
| 22:57.51 | GooE | netstat: no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system. |
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| 22:58.15 | MoDaX | GooE: ? |
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| 22:58.31 | onetinsoldier | acc_: is the older version installed by dpkg? |
| 22:58.34 | enouf | well .. this is probably moot at this point and likely even a bit dated .. but here's the tldp link about framebuffer I said earlier .. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html onetinsoldier |
| 22:58.35 | nn | (EE) Error setting video mode 800x600: Couldn't find matching GLX visual---- how do i fix this?? |
| 22:58.45 | MoDaX | GooE: that ip_masquerade thing is from 2.2 kernels I think |
| 22:58.49 | acc_ | onetinsoldier: Yeah, can I just copy the .deb from /var/cache/apt? |
| 22:59.10 | nn | ?? |
| 22:59.28 | onetinsoldier | acc_: yep, that's what i was thinking of telling you you could do |
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| 22:59.38 | acc_ | onetinsoldier: Cool, thanks. |
| 23:00.19 | onetinsoldier | enouf: roger, i've been searching on google, but some of the how-to's have still left me with some questions |
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| 23:01.34 | onetinsoldier | brb |
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| 23:02.08 | pippijn | dpkg: win32codecs |
| 23:02.13 | pippijn | hm |
| 23:02.27 | pippijn | does anyone know about the win32codecs? |
| 23:02.32 | pippijn | marillat is gone |
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| 23:02.37 | coach | hi@all |
| 23:02.39 | pippijn | and multimedia doesn't have them |
| 23:02.47 | coach | how can i fix archives with an .sfv? |
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| 23:04.17 | luisbg | can somebody send me the /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make debian file? |
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| 23:05.43 | petemc | coach: you cant, thats just for checking if they're corrupt or not |
| 23:05.51 | petemc | coach: you probably want .par files |
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| 23:06.34 | coach | hmpf... |
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| 23:08.31 | onetinsoldier | back |
| 23:08.49 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: so what's the problem? |
| 23:09.22 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: well, it might take a bit to explain. but i am willing |
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| 23:10.24 | eeyore- | (if y'all though wobbly windows were cool, wait 'til you see beryl's "beam up" or "burn" effects) :-) |
| 23:10.44 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: there is a bit of a problem with the fglrx driver. when using gdm, and you go back to console and do /etc/init.d gdm stop.. the screen goes blank. but that's just a symptom |
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| 23:11.38 | karsten | debtakover, seeking clarification, nukes the existing 'Nix install, excepting a few excluded directories, correct? |
| 23:11.56 | karsten | !win23codecs |
| 23:12.02 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: my problem was i put an entry in my menu.lst because i've been trying to get framebuffer support.. it told me i had chosen an invalid mode. so i pressed Enter and chose 80x30 |
| 23:12.05 | zinx | eeyore-: i think i'd settle for being able to move the title bar off the top of the screen. |
| 23:12.11 | karsten | !win32codecs |
| 23:12.37 | karsten | dpkg: win32codecs is see marillat (the server's moved) |
| 23:12.37 | dpkg | okay, karsten |
| 23:12.41 | zinx | eeyore-: or even just being able to act as a default window manager in gnome |
| 23:12.50 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: what did you put for the mode? |
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| 23:13.03 | Guerin | !w32codecs |
| 23:13.03 | dpkg | well, w32codecs is a package that is not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular but proprietary multimedia formats, such as AVI, Realmedia, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia>. |
| 23:13.07 | eeyore- | zinx: you can run "beryl-manager" when logging in ... |
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| 23:13.12 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: after doing that, these last couple of times my monitor when into power saving mode just by switching to a VT from X |
| 23:13.18 | eeyore- | zinx: it (beryl) can be your wm, but timing is tricky :-) |
| 23:13.29 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: what's the vga= mode? |
| 23:13.42 | karsten | Guerin: Point. |
| 23:13.54 | karsten | dpkg: forget win32codecs |
| 23:13.54 | dpkg | i forgot win32codecs, karsten |
| 23:14.01 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: so this time i pressed 'space' to continue when booting.. now i can switch to a VT from X without the system hosing up |
| 23:14.04 | karsten | dpkg: win32codecs is see w32codecs |
| 23:14.05 | dpkg | okay, karsten |
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| 23:14.18 | Guerin | heh |
| 23:14.28 | Guerin | i was just making sure it was up to date |
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| 23:14.31 | streuner | hehe |
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| 23:14.59 | karsten | Yeah. pippijn was just asking about this and not being very patient about it. |
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| 23:15.14 | streuner | Everytime i see 'heh' i got reminded from the movie 'Barbarella' :-) |
| 23:15.15 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i tried the following... video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr:3 vga=0x0376 ...and... video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr:3 vga=798 |
| 23:15.57 | streuner | Guerin: you never saw 'Barbarella'? |
| 23:16.17 | Guerin | yeah, it's shit |
| 23:16.35 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: but i am using a custom compiled kernel... i had have to check to make certain, but i believe i have vesafb and radeonfb compiled as modules. i suppose i need to put them into /etc/modules? |
| 23:16.40 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: you have two vga= modes :-) |
| 23:17.07 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: and vesafb, on debian, should be compiled in, not modular |
| 23:17.16 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: well, i didn't have both of those in there at the same time |
| 23:17.44 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: vga=798 != vga=0x376. 798 = 0x31e |
| 23:17.47 | onetinsoldier | oh? hmmm |
| 23:17.51 | streuner | Guerin: the important thing is, when the man who save Barbarella said 'heh', after she offer him to make sex with pills ;-) |
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| 23:18.32 | karsten | onetinsoldier: Suggest you read the Framebuffer HOWTO which lists fullscreen resolutions and their FB equivalents. |
| 23:18.44 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: 0x31E = 0x200 + 0x11E, and this (vga=798) selects vbe mode 286. is this correct for your board? |
| 23:18.47 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: so, right now i guess i will recompile my kernel. btw, i ran that vbetest and then just press 'q' to quit |
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| 23:19.08 | eeyore- | karsten: i doubt the framebuffer howto lists the nonstandard resolutions |
| 23:19.18 | eeyore- | karsten: which is the point of running vbetest :-) |
| 23:19.27 | karsten | eeyore-: Ah. |
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| 23:21.57 | dennda | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:22.36 | Supaplex | !pal dennda |
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| 23:23.01 | eeyore- | anybody want dell coupon codes? "save up to $380 for desktops and servers" and "save up to $310 for select dell laptops" |
| 23:23.26 | streuner | heh |
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| 23:23.42 | rambo3 | Dell not even if its free |
| 23:23.43 | Supaplex | eeyore-: off topic? yea... |
| 23:23.48 | iLLf8d | anyone get vmware to install in a custom 2.6.18.3 setup? |
| 23:23.57 | eeyore- | Supaplex: we're known for that :-) |
| 23:24.06 | iLLf8d | or 2.6.18.3 canned? |
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| 23:24.13 | underzsof | THE SITE HAS EVERYTHING ABOUT WAREZ RAPIDSHARE DOWNLOADZ --> WWW.UNDERZSOFT.COM THANX!!! |
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| 23:24.15 | eeyore- | ok, in the trash it went |
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| 23:24.31 | streuner | Where is abrotman? |
| 23:24.34 | dennda | THE SITE HAS EVERYTHING ABOUT WAREZ RAPIDSHARE DOWNLOADZ --> WWW.UNDERZSOFT.COM THANX!! |
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| 23:24.37 | Supaplex | it must be spam us day... |
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| 23:24.55 | eeyore- | time to set new channel limit? |
| 23:25.01 | onetinsoldier | i wonder when dennda will get the hint |
| 23:25.20 | Supaplex | eeyore-: yes please, by IQ if you don't mind. :-D |
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| 23:25.37 | streuner | eeyore-: you have to look every time at this... |
| 23:25.51 | eeyore- | streuner: at what? |
| 23:25.57 | streuner | channel limit |
| 23:26.15 | iLLf8d | they're lying too its doesn't have everything |
| 23:26.17 | streuner | doesn't debhelper take care, anyway? |
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| 23:27.05 | eeyore- | no thanks. i like all my software to have that "Genuine Advantage" seal of approval :-) |
| 23:27.34 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok. i looked and i have both low-leve framebuffer supports compiled into the kernel. i'm not talking about radeonfb. that would be a conflict? |
| 23:27.38 | atki | Hello, i just started to dist-upgrade my debian stable to etch, after unpacking libc6 i got errors: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied, what's going on? |
| 23:27.42 | onetinsoldier | low-level* |
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| 23:28.01 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: repeat, please? |
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| 23:28.40 | eeyore- | atki: custom kernel? |
| 23:28.52 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i have vesafb and and regular(?) framebuffer support compiled into the kernel |
| 23:28.54 | atki | eeyore-: yes, 2.4.33.3 |
| 23:29.06 | atki | with grsecurity patch |
| 23:30.16 | madman215 | why wont my digital camara work? i plug it into the usb port, and turn it on, and nothing hapens |
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| 23:30.35 | streuner | madman215: usb-storage? |
| 23:30.55 | freeone3000 | After the nvidia one-liner, is it safe to uninstall mesa? |
| 23:30.56 | freeone3000 | Or should I reboot first? (Sid) |
| 23:31.01 | streuner | Does your camera support usb-storage or NOT? |
| 23:31.02 | madman215 | streuner, what about it |
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| 23:31.17 | madman215 | im not to sure, hold on and let me find out |
| 23:31.24 | streuner | hm |
| 23:31.28 | JaMaLz | grub 2 is cool |
| 23:31.33 | streuner | !tell madman215 about usb-storage |
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| 23:31.55 | streuner | madman215: i hope you are using a debian kernel (official)... |
| 23:32.20 | madman215 | sarge |
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| 23:32.45 | streuner | madman215: no, look at the logs of /var/log/messages to see if the kernel regonizes the changes |
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| 23:34.23 | atki | eeyore-: is it possible to fall dist-upgrade back to sarge? |
| 23:34.51 | Ronin | atki: nope you cant go back |
| 23:35.56 | madman215 | ya it sees the changes, new usb device blah blah blah, then usb device2 is not claimed by any active driver |
| 23:36.25 | streuner | madman215: try to mount that |
| 23:37.03 | madman215 | how do i find out its mount point? |
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| 23:37.30 | eeyore- | atki: no :-) |
| 23:37.44 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: sure, so what's the problem? |
| 23:37.51 | streuner | madman215: good question :-) just try 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /some-folder |
| 23:38.05 | GooE | how do i secure keyboard in gnome-terminal? |
| 23:38.59 | madman215 | does it have to be an existing folder? /some-folder that is, or a specific folder or can i just make one on the desktop and mount it there |
| 23:39.33 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: well, i don't know enough to know what problem i may have.. lol. first, did you see where i said that i did the vbetest and then just pressed 'q' to quit? |
| 23:39.34 | streuner | some-folder is just an example |
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| 23:39.59 | rj45 | hi |
| 23:40.14 | rj45 | whats the best tool to do vps? |
| 23:40.22 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: what you're supposed to do is run vbetest, read the mode, memorize a "safe mode" (640x480?), try out some of the more interesting mode and if you get stuck, enter the "safe" mode blind, and quit vbetest |
| 23:40.40 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: if you don't memorize safe mode, or if the console just won't come back, you'll have to reboot :-) |
| 23:40.51 | madman215 | /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 23:41.01 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: or, you can telnet/ssh in and fix the problem |
| 23:41.27 | streuner | madman215: did you read the factoid 'usb-storage'? |
| 23:41.41 | streuner | madman215: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 23:41.56 | eeyore- | GooE: you can't, unless you lock the screen itself |
| 23:42.20 | eeyore- | GooE: because, even if you lock the keyboard in one terminal, what's to stop someone from starting another terminal? |
| 23:42.48 | eeyore- | GooE: but there's another way. switch to control-alt-f1, and "vlock -a" |
| 23:43.08 | streuner | madman215: modprobe usb-storage sd_mod |
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| 23:44.51 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: hmmm, ok. but... i take it i should exit out of X to try that out. now, about my kernel |
| 23:45.03 | enouf | eeyore-: perhaps get-edid can be helpful to onetinsoldier |
| 23:45.07 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: yes, what about the kernel? :-) |
| 23:45.23 | madman215 | wow, /proc/partitions make no sence to me at all |
| 23:45.27 | eeyore- | enouf: read-edid | parse-edid is just for X :-) |
| 23:45.38 | enouf | eeyore-: doh ! .. thanks |
| 23:45.56 | eeyore- | enouf: well, actually, it can *also* make modelines for console, but ... |
| 23:45.59 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i have both frambuffer and vesa framebuffer compiled into the kernel... should i have 'only' vesa framebuffer in there? |
| 23:46.12 | eeyore- | enouf: but, vesafb doesn't honour those modelines ;-) catch-22 again |
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| 23:46.41 | streuner | madman215: is there a sda or sdb entry? |
| 23:46.54 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: i don't know what you mean about "both framebuffer and vesa framebuffer", but hey, if it compiled for you, you're probably OK :-))))) |
| 23:47.20 | madman215 | no |
| 23:47.27 | streuner | hm |
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| 23:47.38 | streuner | prolly your camera doesn't support usb-storage then :-) |
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| 23:47.45 | streuner | just use 'gphoto2' :-) |
| 23:47.56 | streuner | madman215: apt-get install gphoto2 |
| 23:47.56 | JimPanic | Hello, does anyone have experience with resizing LVM partitions? |
| 23:48.12 | madman215 | in the messages it said something about that |
| 23:48.26 | vulture | JimPanic: Sure.. been a while since I had to do mine, but yeah. What's up? |
| 23:48.57 | JimPanic | vulture: Well.. I'd like to shrink the partition. :) Couldn't find any resources. |
| 23:49.04 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: help on framebuffer support... "CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE: Low-level framebuffer-based console driver." |
| 23:49.15 | madman215 | streuner, libgphoto2: loaded successfully |
| 23:49.29 | eeyore- | onetinesol: that's probably the common code to all of them |
| 23:49.35 | vulture | JimPanic: what filesystem are you using? |
| 23:49.57 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: help on vesa framebuffer support... "CONFIG_FB_VESA: This is the frame buffer device driver for generic VESA 2.0 compliant graphic cards." |
| 23:50.10 | JimPanic | vulture: I'd like to shrink the *physical* parition used for LVM, that's the point. |
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| 23:50.34 | streuner | madman215: gphoto2 is cli app, just read man gphoto2 - there are some examples... |
| 23:50.41 | JimPanic | vulture: gparted doesn't seem to want that really, too. |
| 23:51.22 | vulture | JimPanic: Oh.. you want to shrink a physical volume? I'm not sure how to go about that. But there are ways to migrate on/off partitions & things so I expect it's possible (but I guess you assumed that already). |
| 23:51.27 | vulture | *searches a bit* |
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| 23:52.32 | JimPanic | vulture: Yea, LVM is really great, and I didn't assume I'd install another operating system anytime soon, so I thought I just take the whole disk..now..it's exactly the other way round ;) |
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| 23:54.03 | mango | hi, I have changed the password of super user on a power book computer running debian etch. I have forgotten the super user password. My cdrom is screwed, the only way I have access to the machine is by ssh. I can log on to it but just as normal user |
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| 23:54.13 | QrX | o/ |
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| 23:54.18 | abrotman | !tell mango about ifrp |
| 23:54.25 | streuner | nice |
| 23:54.29 | mango | is ther any one who could help me change the super user password |
| 23:54.42 | madman215 | it dosent say my camera is suported in the --list-cameras option |
| 23:54.43 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: ok, looks good. boot the puppy already :-) |
| 23:55.01 | QrX | i need someone who know well vncserver here |
| 23:55.07 | abrotman | just ask |
| 23:55.16 | streuner | madman215: what model? |
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| 23:55.24 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i'm afraid... very afraid... lol |
| 23:55.36 | eeyore- | mango: borrow a non-screwed cdrom :-) |
| 23:56.01 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: i mostly need to know what to put into my menu.lst file next |
| 23:56.05 | madman215 | hp photosmart m305 |
| 23:56.13 | eeyore- | mango: note to self - "next time i shall make myself a passphrase-less ssh root login" |
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| 23:56.16 | QrX | i am trying to run vnc from windoz to my debian and it works well till i have only the basic x sever on screen |
| 23:56.17 | infernix | mango: if you can add something to the kernel's bootup parameter, add "init=/bin/sh" |
| 23:56.18 | abrotman | that's a printer isn't it |
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| 23:56.45 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: told you already :-) run vbetest, check out some interesting modes, convert to hex and add 0x200 to it. does this sound familiar? |
| 23:56.52 | streuner | HP usually supports usb-storage, the old ones at least :-) |
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| 23:57.08 | madman215 | i had it working with suse |
| 23:57.10 | QrX | i want to know where i can modify config of the server to get the desktop |
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| 23:57.24 | madman215 | so what doses that mean, the usb storage that i |
| 23:57.28 | madman215 | is* |
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| 23:57.43 | abrotman | QrX: i'm sure this is in the documentation |
| 23:57.52 | eeyore- | madman215: another option is to remove the memory card and use one of those 20-in-1 USB card readers ... probably faster anyway, and doesn't drain camera battery |
| 23:57.59 | abrotman | aren't the photosmart series printers? |
| 23:58.07 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: yes, don't know if i remember how to convert to hex though |
| 23:58.09 | QrX | maybe but i dont understand all of parameters |
| 23:58.21 | madman215 | eeyore-, its on the camara memory, there is no card |
| 23:58.22 | QrX | and there is not a ton |
| 23:58.30 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: nevermind, just add 512 to it :-)))) |
| 23:58.42 | abrotman | QrX: did you check the /usr/share/doc/vncserver/ directory ? |
| 23:58.45 | DavidProck1981 | hay i tring to help oyt a friend what has a windows machine, i hook his pc up to my network and enable his c:\ for share on the network , Does any one know how i ren read hid harddrive over the netwoek |
| 23:58.48 | QrX | yup |
| 23:58.50 | onetinsoldier | been a loooong time since i've done any math! ;-/ |
| 23:58.52 | madman215 | abrotman, yes, and also cameras |
| 23:59.01 | abrotman | DavidProck1981: smbclient |
| 23:59.01 | streuner | abrotman: http://www.amazon.com/PhotoSmart-850-Digital-Camera-Optical/dp/B00006LK1Q |
| 23:59.08 | abrotman | he said m305! |
| 23:59.12 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: might be more clear in hex, because you can then see the patterns among all the various available modes, but hey, decimal is fine too ... |
| 23:59.12 | michael117 | I'm having some trouble with apt-get and aptitude not wanting to install any software until it is able to remove some other packages which do not want to be removed and I actually do not wish to remove them. Aptitude keeps suggesting these solutions with keeping some packages and removing one but I'm not able to apply it. How can I resolve this issue? |
| 23:59.23 | QrX | i even edited an xstartup.sh |
| 23:59.27 | DavidProck1981 | on debian what do i do |
| 23:59.32 | abrotman | DavidProck1981: smbclient |
| 23:59.34 | QrX | but it doesnt work |
| 23:59.40 | dondelelcaro | !tell michael117 -about bat |
| 23:59.45 | onetinsoldier | eeyore-: ok... well, i will try and remember how to convert to hex. or i'll google it |
| 23:59.52 | DavidProck1981 | bash: smbclient: command not found |
| 23:59.53 | QrX | well nevermind i wil find it |
| 23:59.56 | abrotman | install it ? |
| 23:59.58 | eeyore- | onetinsoldier: told you! (you're not paying attention) |
| 23:59.59 | michael117 | DavidProck1981: try using samba, or smb |
