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| 00:00.05 | bzed | Muisje: << is that name dutch? |
| 00:00.07 | stoned | I was just asking cuz I tried to get apache2 to work and failed. 1.3 runs good and solid |
| 00:00.09 | abrotman | Muisje: yes |
| 00:00.09 | enouf | read read? .. live live? |
| 00:00.10 | Muisje | Yes bzed |
| 00:00.23 | stoned | apache2 is somewhat new/different in structure and config |
| 00:00.33 | stoned | I still have not taken the time to read through docs |
| 00:00.38 | abrotman | enouf: that's not homonyms |
| 00:00.41 | bzed | Muisje: does it mean little mouse or something like that? or is it a bird's name? |
| 00:00.55 | stoned | those are homophonic words |
| 00:01.00 | stoned | they sound the same but mean diff. things |
| 00:01.01 | abrotman | !tell stoned about gay |
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| 00:01.07 | stoned | abrotman: what? |
| 00:01.07 | abrotman | for the bazillionth time |
| 00:01.10 | stoned | wtf |
| 00:01.10 | enouf | abrotman: wasn't following .. busy tracking doen other ppls hardware issues .. anyways .. i gotta shower now |
| 00:01.12 | abrotman | oh .. /me misread :) |
| 00:01.17 | abrotman | !beer stoned |
| 00:01.18 | archville | Hi, where can i find the latest debian etch iso CD 1 image ? |
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| 00:01.22 | stoned | abrotman: tool1 |
| 00:01.24 | stoned | !!! |
| 00:01.24 | dpkg | No! I'm not your damned csh prompt! |
| 00:01.26 | abrotman | stoned: and they're not homphonic either |
| 00:01.27 | bzed | !slap abrotman |
| 00:01.32 | itchi | bzed: Yeah, a little mouse |
| 00:01.35 | stoned | abrotman: then what are they |
| 00:01.38 | abrotman | archville: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 00:01.39 | stoned | er.. |
| 00:01.40 | stoned | sorry |
| 00:01.40 | Muisje | yes bzed, little mouse. |
| 00:01.42 | stoned | not homophonic |
| 00:01.50 | stoned | they are spelled the same but not said the same |
| 00:01.54 | stoned | god i forgot |
| 00:01.58 | stoned | damnit |
| 00:02.05 | archville | abrotman, thank you but isn't that Sarge ? |
| 00:02.15 | abrotman | stoned: heteronyms |
| 00:02.17 | stoned | archville: not on /devel/ |
| 00:02.18 | abrotman | archville: nope |
| 00:02.18 | bzed | Muisje: I always knew it, dutch is just a german slang *g* |
| 00:02.26 | archville | ah, thanks |
| 00:02.30 | stoned | archville: stable is always under /releases/ |
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| 00:02.52 | cheal | should I be worried if my laptop failed the regular fsck, shut down before I could note the problem, but passed a later fsck? |
| 00:03.06 | bzed | cheal: which fs? |
| 00:03.13 | cheal | bzed: ext3 |
| 00:03.18 | bzed | then.. no :) |
| 00:03.21 | nitro4ce | cheal: yes x crashes |
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| 00:03.39 | stoned | archville: was my favorite demon in Doom |
| 00:03.42 | abrotman | cheal: hopefully it was a /tmp/ file? |
| 00:03.56 | Muisje | No, it's not bzed. |
| 00:03.58 | archville | stoned, nope, that was Archvile with only one "L" |
| 00:03.58 | archville | :P |
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| 00:04.02 | cheal | abrotman: no idea... |
| 00:04.03 | stoned | archville: oh |
| 00:04.10 | stoned | ville is like a town |
| 00:04.10 | archville | but i love doom :) |
| 00:04.14 | stoned | town of the arch |
| 00:04.16 | stoned | arch ville |
| 00:04.17 | stoned | haha |
| 00:04.18 | stoned | :D |
| 00:04.19 | Muisje | The dutch language is more of a ripoff of the american language than german language... |
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| 00:04.30 | abrotman | !tell fidget about root |
| 00:04.45 | cheal | bzed: if you don't mind, I'd like to understand why you say that. did you already saw that situation? |
| 00:04.46 | bzed | Muisje: yeah, like the slang they speak in nothern germany is alsmost english |
| 00:04.48 | archville | stoned, i've first choose the nickname because of the doom monster, but mistyped it and decided to stick with it |
| 00:05.27 | nitro4ce | cheal: i didnt try checksums |
| 00:05.32 | itchi | fidget: Try to say somethings here :-p |
| 00:05.33 | bzed | cheal: ext(2,3) is really stable. if a forced fsck says everything is allright than everythign si allright. you probablt want to check the lost+found dir |
| 00:05.41 | stoned | archville: I love doom. In fact, I think i'll add a section for it on my debian page. About how to setup 3d doom engine with 3d models/graphics and freedoom IWAD all free and legally on debian |
| 00:05.46 | fsmunoz_ | Wouldn't that be Frisian? |
| 00:05.53 | stoned | archville: all gnu/gpl |
| 00:05.56 | cheal | nitro4ce: did you already use nvidia-installer on that installation? |
| 00:05.57 | archville | That remembers me of doomsday |
| 00:05.57 | stoned | its great |
| 00:06.00 | archville | and jdoom :) |
| 00:06.06 | stoned | thats it |
| 00:06.09 | bmsleight_ | Did the repositories stall for anyone else this evening? I filled a bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412144 about etch debootstrap stalling. But after 1 hour it comes back to life. So I will close the bug. BTW what does "debootstrap.invalid_dists_etch_Release" mean ? |
| 00:06.13 | archville | yeah, it's awesome |
| 00:06.24 | stoned | vavoom is not in debian, but prboom is. vavoom can also use 3d models |
| 00:06.28 | bzed | Muisje: although i have admit that I still don't know what to think about dutch, sometimes I just think: wow, that language soudns great, and sometimes I think... wtfbbq!? |
| 00:06.38 | fsmunoz_ | Frisian is very close to original english, but english had massive latin influence meanwhile... |
| 00:06.42 | stoned | prboom however can't. vavoom has mouselook and jump |
| 00:06.43 | fsmunoz_ | Offtopic, I'll shut up now |
| 00:06.57 | stoned | !info prboom |
| 00:07.07 | dpkg | prboom: (clone of the legendary first person shooter Doom), section games, is optional. Version: 2:2.4.6+dfsg-1 (sid), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 896 kB |
| 00:07.12 | cheal | [bzed:] forced fsck just failed again. rebooted too fast again too :/ |
| 00:07.19 | archville | I just install the doomsday from the sources on the website with Hexen, Heretic and all the whole thing |
| 00:07.20 | Muisje | lol bzed. :) |
| 00:07.26 | bzed | cheal: why does it reboot? O_o |
| 00:07.37 | stoned | abrotman: have you seen the latest thingy on my site. http://stoned.is.dreaming.org also click on recordings>hydrogen for my beats |
| 00:07.38 | bzed | cheal: boot from some cd and run fschk from there |
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| 00:07.47 | cheal | bzed: it red something like *** REBOOT LINUX*** |
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| 00:08.15 | bzed | cheal: that happens if you fsck your readonly-mounted / partition afaik |
| 00:08.39 | itchi | stoned: Nice ie logo :-) |
| 00:08.40 | stoned | !ping |
| 00:08.40 | dpkg | pong |
| 00:08.44 | cheal | gah, it passed this time |
| 00:09.00 | stoned | itchi: I got the button from a free website. all those buttons are free |
| 00:09.06 | archville | Uhmm, i'm getting old for lorem ipsum. :P |
| 00:09.21 | cheal | bzed: what do you mean. it always happens if you fsck your readonly-mounted / partition AFAYK? |
| 00:09.39 | nitro4ce | cheal: yes |
| 00:09.48 | nitro4ce | cheal: i used nvidia-installer |
| 00:10.12 | cheal | nitro4ce: then you definitely want to run debsums |
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| 00:10.28 | bzed | cheal: if you fsck tyour root partition, and fsck finds any errors, you need to reboot to make sure that the kernel actually knows what was changed on the filesystem by fsck. fsck doesn;t operate on files, it operates on the partition directly |
| 00:10.40 | itchi | stoned: Yeah, i know, It's just that "IE will never be supported" that are sooo funny :-) |
| 00:10.49 | stoned | hehe |
| 00:10.53 | stoned | well its true |
| 00:11.00 | stoned | why should I care about ie users |
| 00:11.12 | abrotman | you should care about all visitors to your site |
| 00:11.25 | abrotman | otherwise you're just as bad as the idiots that make IE-only sites |
| 00:11.26 | stoned | well I care about everyone but IE users sure |
| 00:11.34 | nitro4ce | cheal: how? |
| 00:11.39 | itchi | stoned: Shuut, my stuff is not IE compatible too, and i also not care about these haha. Like these not care about us ... |
| 00:11.42 | nitro4ce | cheal: what command? |
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| 00:11.59 | cheal | nitro4ce: debsums, perhaps with an argument like -s |
| 00:12.12 | stoned | itchi: its like Timone and Pumba say, "When the world turns its back on you, you turn your back on the world" |
| 00:12.13 | itchi | stoned: Just that i'm to lazy to try it out on a f* MS box and 'bug fix' it |
| 00:12.26 | abrotman | you both suck |
| 00:12.27 | stoned | itchi: exactly |
| 00:12.33 | stoned | hehe |
| 00:12.57 | itchi | abrotman: You not maybe?? :-) |
| 00:13.14 | fsmunoz_ | Going to try hydrogen, thanks for the tip there stoned |
| 00:13.21 | stoned | fsmunoz_: sure |
| 00:13.27 | abrotman | itchi: i make my stuff work in all browsers i can |
| 00:13.40 | cheal | just did it again. "The filesystem check corrected errors on the root partition but requested that the system be rebooted." or something like that. |
| 00:13.45 | stoned | I would have to boot under windows man |
| 00:13.48 | stoned | I don't wanna ! |
| 00:13.51 | abrotman | cheal: touch /forcefsck |
| 00:13.56 | abrotman | stoned: then just shutup about it |
| 00:14.09 | markybob | stoned, you dont need windows for ie testing |
| 00:14.15 | stoned | I do't wanna wine it |
| 00:14.22 | cheal | abrotman: yeah, I found by myself :) |
| 00:14.22 | stoned | abrotman: blow me |
| 00:14.40 | itchi | abrotman: I just not have a official MS box anymore, with XP IE 5.5 at least everythings goes right, just my mom with her w2k my stuff is not compatible. But i not go to fix her problem. Maybe yeah, install Debian on it soon :-) |
| 00:14.47 | cheal | the fun thing is that when it fails while /forcefsck exists, it automatically re-fsck-s next boot |
| 00:14.57 | stoned | I have an XP pro student edition I could use it in virtual box |
| 00:15.07 | stoned | oh yeah, I could do that couldn't I |
| 00:15.13 | itchi | abrotman: The laptop have XP preinstalled, but i need to boot to Debian to work 'right' |
| 00:15.15 | stoned | alrighty then, new task for me |
| 00:15.31 | cheal | bzed: so what you meant is that it's normal that the system reboots after a failed fsck? |
| 00:15.33 | stoned | itchi: you've looked at debian.exe at goodbye-microsoft.com |
| 00:15.44 | itchi | stoned: hehe, yeah |
| 00:15.46 | fsmunoz_ | stoned, what about IE under wine? |
| 00:15.50 | itchi | stoned: Work that exe realy? |
| 00:15.54 | stoned | fsmunoz_: eh |
| 00:15.58 | markybob | stoned http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page |
| 00:16.04 | stoned | itchi: yes, it works, but just don't let it restart your machine |
| 00:16.14 | stoned | itchi: let it isntall grub and create a menu.lst |
| 00:16.32 | stoned | then you might want to recheck the kernel/inird it downloaded for you. for my core 2 duo it selected amd64 |
| 00:16.39 | bzed | cheal: after a failed? not sure about that. after a successfully it definitely reboots if it was the root partition |
| 00:16.41 | stoned | so I had to make changes to menu.lst etc. |
| 00:16.44 | fsmunoz_ | Seriously. The friends I have that do web designing in Linux use that approach. Sad thing is that it starts up faster than firefox |
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| 00:16.53 | itchi | stoned: If i find another wifi card and a printer, i may allowed to install Debian |
| 00:16.55 | bzed | cheal: as I said before, you probably want to put some livecd in and run fsck form there |
| 00:17.31 | stoned | itchi: can you get your hands on debian iso cd 1 for whatever sarge or etch? |
| 00:17.45 | itchi | stoned: yes |
| 00:17.58 | stoned | itchi: you can let that thing install grub for you, then load the hd-media kernel/inird and have your iso on a fat partition |
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| 00:18.12 | stoned | you can install debian offline that way |
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| 00:18.21 | cheal | bzed: it's normal that it reboots after a successful check of the root partition? so that would mean it's normal that the regular fsck check would cause reboots, right? |
| 00:18.23 | stoned | or burn a cds |
| 00:18.25 | stoned | whatever |
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| 00:18.33 | itchi | stoned: Oh, that's not a problem, she just have some incompatible stuff, wifi and the printer. |
| 00:18.38 | bzed | cheal: no, only if there was somethign serious to fix |
| 00:18.38 | vctvie8651 | DEBIAN SUCKS ASS |
| 00:18.38 | kszdzc6420 | DEBIAN SUCKS ASS |
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| 00:18.41 | stoned | itchi: ahh |
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| 00:18.44 | kszdzc6420 | DEBIAN SUCKS ASS |
| 00:18.48 | cheal | bzed: I missed your tip about the livecd, sorry |
| 00:18.49 | kszdzc6420 | DEBIAN SUCKS ASS |
| 00:18.50 | SubStack | WE KNOW |
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| 00:18.51 | stoned | !ops kszdzc6420 spamming |
| 00:18.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: stoned complains about: kszdzc6420 spamming |
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| 00:19.04 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 00:19.05 | shay | !ops trolls |
| 00:19.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: shay complains about: trolls |
| 00:19.14 | cheal | oh, I'm on freenode! |
| 00:19.17 | stoned | hes done |
| 00:19.18 | itchi | Md: Watch the stuff :-) |
| 00:19.21 | abrotman | stew: the other guy is still here |
| 00:19.27 | stoned | he is oh |
| 00:19.30 | abrotman | oh .. never mind |
| 00:19.31 | abrotman | he's gone |
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| 00:19.33 | LoRez | klined |
| 00:19.36 | nitro4ce | cheal: all i got is zeros |
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| 00:20.02 | stew | wonder if that is coincidental with our earlier visitor |
| 00:20.07 | abrotman | you thnik? |
| 00:20.10 | cheal | nitro4ce: hum... |
| 00:20.16 | abrotman | wouldn't be the first time it happened |
| 00:20.23 | stoned | and surely not the last |
| 00:20.42 | nitro4ce | cheal: everything is installed now. i used module assistant :) |
| 00:20.54 | nitro4ce | cheal: shall i give it a try? |
| 00:20.58 | bzed | wondering if they were paid by ubuntu, redhat, novell or microsoft... or sco :D |
| 00:21.06 | itchi | stoned: She is not yet ready to buy new hardware to do the switch :-s |
| 00:21.07 | stoned | itchi: what laptop is it? which wi fi card |
| 00:21.23 | stoned | itchi: usb wireless nic costs like 15$ really |
| 00:21.29 | stoned | im sure you can spend that right? :) |
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| 00:21.48 | itchi | stoned: Euhm, I have no more directly the references here by the hand. |
| 00:21.51 | cheal | nitro4ce: oh, you mean you ran debsums before reinstalling the nvidia stuff? |
| 00:22.02 | NetEcho | evening chaps |
| 00:22.06 | nitro4ce | cheal: after |
| 00:22.17 | stoned | itchi: I'm just saying if you really want debian you'll find a way to isntall it :) |
| 00:22.23 | itchi | stoned: I had looked on the cups site, and ndiswrapper stuff and so. But not yet supported :)s |
| 00:22.35 | NetEcho | anyone here ever had luck seting up an automount for an NTFS partition that all users have access too? |
| 00:22.35 | stoned | ahh the printer too eh |
| 00:22.36 | nitro4ce | cheal: after evrything was installed |
| 00:22.38 | cheal | nitro4ce: so you're asking if you should retry starting X? sure, that doesn't cost much |
| 00:22.51 | nitro4ce | cheal: ok brb |
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| 00:22.55 | stoned | itchi: what about a print server. you don't have any other machines that can hook with the printer? |
| 00:22.59 | itchi | stoned: It's a combi, scanner, fax |
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| 00:23.18 | TwoPints | i've installed swat with apt-get on samba, but when i point my browser to localhost:901 i get a connection error what have i missed? |
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| 00:23.28 | stoned | itchi: you don't have to connect the print to the laptop, let the laptop print over the network |
| 00:23.28 | itchi | stoned: She only have one computer, you know, she's not a geek like us :-) |
| 00:23.33 | stoned | itchi: oh |
| 00:23.35 | jahshua | hi |
| 00:23.38 | stoned | itchi: this is your gf? |
| 00:23.44 | TwoPints | i am using ubuntu but know one on #ubuntu knows... so i thought i'd try |
| 00:23.58 | itchi | stoned: Yeah, if the printer have a network RJ45, that diabolic works via usb |
| 00:24.06 | stoned | no one knows the troubles I've seen... no one knows my sorrow... |
| 00:24.17 | stoned | itchi: ahh |
| 00:24.19 | markybob | TwoPints, we dont help with ubuntu regardless of who is or isnt answering in #ubuntu |
| 00:24.21 | itchi | stoned: gf? |
| 00:24.27 | stoned | itchi: your woman? |
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| 00:24.44 | markybob | TwoPints, gladly help you if you installed debian, though |
| 00:24.47 | itchi | stoned: No, my mom, my wife already run Debian :-) |
| 00:24.48 | TwoPints | markybob: sry, i just thought i would be honest |
| 00:24.52 | stoned | itchi: ahh |
| 00:25.03 | liable | TwoPints: check with netstat to see if its running |
| 00:25.21 | stoned | TwoPints: honesty is not always the best policy |
| 00:25.29 | stoned | my tummy hurts |
| 00:25.43 | itchi | stoned: At least, she is impressed about Debian, she trust me, it's just that f* diabolic hardware that sucks :-s |
| 00:25.45 | stoned | see? |
| 00:25.55 | stoned | my honesty about my tummy was useless :) |
| 00:26.01 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, "sudo lsof -i :901" |
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| 00:26.20 | stoned | itchi: I bought a 965p motherboard and it gave me hell |
| 00:26.26 | fsmunoz_ | Does it give any decent output? With a process name and a LISTEN in the end? |
| 00:26.29 | stoned | itchi: until i put on 2.6.18 |
| 00:26.43 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, if lsof isn't founf, apt-get install lsof |
| 00:26.48 | TwoPints | fsmunoz_: im afraid it doesn't give me any output |
| 00:27.11 | liable | restart inetd |
| 00:27.17 | liable | or xinetd i think you have |
| 00:27.18 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, ok, that's not good. Never used, swat, you're sure that 901 is the port? |
| 00:27.33 | itchi | stoned: Yeah, .18 have many more support, also for this laptop where i'm on right now. No more need to recompile the kernel for the hdd and lesser work for the wifi here also |
| 00:27.34 | stoned | swat sucks |
| 00:27.43 | cheal | it looks like fsck is failing once on two times |
| 00:27.58 | cheal | in order |
| 00:28.00 | itchi | stoned: hhm, right i have not more look for she with the .18 Maybe is the troubles fixed |
| 00:28.06 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, disregard that, it's in /etc/services, swat is 901 |
| 00:28.09 | bzed | itchi: there's still this inofficial 2.6.20 sarge installer i've liked to before |
| 00:28.14 | TwoPints | fsmunoz_: not totally, it seems to be convetion and i think i found it in /etc/services or /etc/inetd under port 901 |
| 00:28.38 | TwoPints | fsmunoz_: yes exactly |
| 00:28.50 | itchi | bzed: ohyeah, .20 have more support i guess. |
| 00:29.01 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, if it used inetd liable's advice is on the mark... |
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| 00:29.07 | bzed | itchi: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 00:29.10 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, restart inetd |
| 00:29.35 | itchi | It's just these both things, wifi and that f* printer, if solved she get Debian! and we trash w2k! :-) |
| 00:29.38 | stoned | bzed: kenshi's images are for sarge |
| 00:29.39 | bzed | itchi: recent wifi cards often need some special firmware though, so they're not all included in the default kernel |
| 00:29.40 | TwoPints | fsmunoz_:I've had no sucess at starting inetd, its not in /etc/inet.d |
| 00:29.46 | bzed | stoned: what's the problem? |
| 00:29.51 | stoned | bzed: backported .19 |
| 00:29.58 | stoned | bzed: none |
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| 00:30.02 | itchi | bzed: Yeah, like my ipw3945 |
| 00:30.05 | TwoPints | fsmunoz_: i guess i don't know what im doing |
| 00:30.12 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, you mean /etc/init.d right? |
| 00:30.18 | bzed | itchi: I doubt that's in the default kernel |
| 00:30.19 | itchi | (argggz, i not have the references here of the stuff :-s) |
| 00:30.24 | bzed | itchi: not sure though |
| 00:30.26 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, ehe, you're honest indeed. |
| 00:30.52 | TwoPints | yes sorry i meant /etc/init.d |
| 00:30.59 | bzed | itchi: I'd get the first debian cd + the module sources for the card and install without wireless-less |
| 00:31.25 | bmsleight_ | Did the repositories stall for anyone else this evening? I filled a bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412144 about etch debootstrap stalling. But after 1 hour it comes back to life. So I will close the bug. BTW what does "debootstrap.invalid_dists_etch_Release" mean ? |
| 00:31.28 | fsmunoz_ | TwoPints, "ls /etc/init.d/*inetd*" |
| 00:31.32 | fsmunoz_ | Anything? |
| 00:31.48 | bzed | bmsleight_: didn't you ask exactly the same liek 15 minutes ago? |
| 00:31.49 | TwoPints | "No such file or directory" |
| 00:32.03 | itchi | bzed: I take her computer at my home, do it there with the netinstall i guess. But her stuff needs to work, like she have a wirelles router and his combi printer needs to works :-s |
| 00:32.07 | stoned | fsmunoz_: are you trying to support ubuntu in #debian? |
| 00:32.08 | TwoPints | ah |
| 00:32.11 | stoned | fsmunoz_: dont' do that. |
| 00:32.18 | TwoPints | a ran apt-get for inetd |
| 00:32.19 | bmsleight_ | bzed: Yep, I wait the required 15minuets before re-spamming/ |
| 00:32.23 | itchi | Next weekend i gona she her. This weekend is FOSDEM! woooaaa |
| 00:32.35 | itchi | oeps s/she/see/ |
| 00:32.53 | TwoPints | cheers mate, man it was so simple in the end |
| 00:33.12 | TwoPints | you'd think they'd get their dependancies right wouldn't you? |
| 00:33.14 | itchi | Or maybe try to convince my mom to sell the diabolic printer on ebay :-) |
| 00:33.30 | stoned | itchi: which brand? |
| 00:33.35 | liable | TwoPints: ubuntu uses xinetd iirc |
| 00:33.39 | itchi | stoned: Epson |
| 00:33.47 | itchi | stoned: I think, not yet more sure :-s |
| 00:33.58 | bzed | bmsleight_: so if nobody answered you... sounds liek the mirror was not completely updated or something else went wrong,. I had the problem with ftp.de.d yesterday, but everythign works well today |
| 00:34.04 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.06 | itchi | stoned: See so many stuff goo |
| 00:34.07 | bzed | bmsleight_: just try it again with a different mirror |
| 00:34.11 | stoned | itchi: most of the times its about AOL |
| 00:34.12 | stoned | :( |
| 00:34.17 | itchi | hehe |
| 00:34.17 | fsmunoz_ | stoned, I am trying to help someone which might have a simple to fix problem in which my debian knowledge might help... |
| 00:34.19 | bmsleight_ | bzed: Ok - ty |
| 00:34.28 | fsmunoz_ | stoned, I understand your point though |
| 00:34.43 | stoned | fsmunoz_: which only goes to furthur the idea that it is ok for ubuntu users to ask for support here |
| 00:34.56 | stoned | fsmunoz_: please do not do that. |
| 00:35.00 | itchi | stoned: Previous she too, 'agian spyware'. We again got a 'GNU/Linux' discussion about it. Just that damn hardware that f* |
| 00:35.02 | Mitar | bzed: thanks, it worked |
| 00:35.16 | bmsleight_ | not enough hd space to mirror both etch and sid. |
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| 00:35.36 | TwoPints | i've used debian before it a good system, although i wasn't administering it |
| 00:35.45 | fsmunoz_ | stoned, ok, if that's channel policy, sure. |
| 00:36.02 | itchi | stoned: I'm not worry to much about the wifi card, it's near payable to buy another one. Just that expensif printer that i not directly see a way to solve |
| 00:36.05 | stoned | fsmunoz_: /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 00:36.21 | bzed | itchi: which model? |
| 00:36.35 | bzed | itchi: and how does it connect to the world? |
| 00:36.43 | bzed | itchi: cable? wifi? !? |
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| 00:37.06 | itchi | bzed: I think it's a Epson (not yet sure anymore at 100%) connected tought USB |
| 00:37.36 | stoned | itchi: well lets get all the info first. :) |
| 00:37.46 | stoned | itchi: find out the things |
| 00:38.07 | itchi | stoned: Yeah! next week gona note everythings down again. I gona look more :-) |
| 00:38.17 | stoned | cool |
| 00:38.23 | itchi | hehe |
| 00:38.25 | stoned | I have an hp deskjet too |
| 00:38.34 | itchi | She flash on my laptop haha :-) |
| 00:38.41 | stoned | its still connected to my old sarge machine with hpijs/hpoj |
| 00:38.48 | bzed | itchi: if it's not well supported by the ppds shipped by debian, you can try to get a ppd from epson, they at least have some for their expensive models. if that doesn't work I can recommend turboprint - it's commercial, but not too expensive and the ppds are great |
| 00:38.51 | stoned | that machine has not been updated in a long time |
| 00:39.17 | stoned | itchi: which country you are in? |
| 00:39.31 | itchi | stoned: Belgium |
| 00:39.36 | stoned | good waffles |
| 00:39.37 | stoned | :) |
| 00:39.47 | itchi | hehe |
| 00:39.49 | bzed | itchi: the country with good beer and sexy girls :P |
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| 00:40.02 | itchi | bzed: Only for us :-p |
| 00:40.31 | bzed | itchi: I allready tasted :P |
| 00:40.37 | itchi | hehe |
| 00:40.50 | stoned | hey you should rent the movie Beerfest |
| 00:40.52 | stoned | its great |
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| 00:41.13 | itchi | I never drink beer haha |
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| 00:41.32 | bzed | stoned: better watch http://www.starwreck.com/ :D |
| 00:41.41 | stoned | hehe |
| 00:41.50 | stoned | spaceballs was the best parody ever |
| 00:41.51 | itchi | But i's been know; we have good ones :-) I like Pisang (oeg, gona go OT now) |
| 00:42.09 | stoned | I was playing ping pong in Ding Dang |
| 00:42.37 | bzed | itchi: didn't manage to test any beer though *cough* |
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| 00:43.04 | NetEcho | anyone know what option on a Linksys router might severely cripple the over the network transfer speeds? |
| 00:43.27 | mo1991 | using debian etch - looking for an easy command or way to switch the system sound (what plays from xmms, mplayer, etc) beteen my two soundcards. Right now using alsaconf but that is a pain way to do it. |
| 00:43.42 | bzed | NetEcho: uuuh... what? there's something missing in your question |
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| 00:43.56 | stoned | NetEcho: signal power maybe? |
| 00:44.03 | NetEcho | over wired conenctions? |
| 00:44.06 | NetEcho | 15 feet apart |
| 00:44.08 | stoned | NetEcho: you said wires? |
| 00:44.10 | stoned | oh |
| 00:44.11 | NetEcho | yea |
| 00:44.19 | NetEcho | between 2 gigabit nics |
| 00:44.23 | NetEcho | I'm getting 100kbps |
| 00:44.24 | itchi | mo1991: Want you software audio mixing? |
| 00:44.33 | stoned | oh I dunno I only use one with 10/100 |
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| 00:44.48 | stoned | itchi: dmix |
| 00:44.51 | NetEcho | gigabit is 10/100/1000 |
| 00:44.55 | NetEcho | same technology |
| 00:45.04 | stoned | but i don't have a gigabit eth |
| 00:45.05 | NetEcho | just stating they're not limited to 10/10 |
| 00:45.08 | dvs | cat 5e cable? |
| 00:45.09 | NetEcho | but even if they were |
| 00:45.11 | NetEcho | yea |
| 00:45.16 | bzed | good cable? |
| 00:45.25 | bzed | what does mii-info say? |
| 00:45.27 | nvz | maybe the hub/switch in the router doesnt doo gigabit |
| 00:45.32 | NetEcho | used to |
| 00:45.34 | stoned | nvz: sup |
| 00:45.36 | bzed | nvz: no, it doesn only 100m |
| 00:45.37 | NetEcho | used to get atleast 1mb |
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| 00:45.44 | nvz | stoned: nothing getting drunk.. about to go to the bar |
| 00:45.48 | NetEcho | now I'm getting 100kbps |
| 00:45.49 | rahul | !! |
| 00:45.49 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:45.52 | stoned | oh its friday isn't it |
| 00:45.53 | stoned | damn |
| 00:46.05 | mo1991 | itchi - no, just I have one soundcard going to my house sterio and one gonig to my office speakers. Want to be able to switch sound from one card to the other easily. Alsconf detects both cards and lets you choose the one you want - I think there must be an easier way tho |
| 00:46.11 | itchi | I gona sleep, FOSDEM! tomorrow :-) |
| 00:46.12 | dvs | stoned: why damn? |
| 00:46.31 | nvz | stoned: yeah it was my girlfriend's birthday yesturday.. didnt get to see her last night hoping to have a good time tonight |
| 00:46.36 | stoned | dvs: I have nothing to do |
| 00:46.37 | stoned | I'm bored |
| 00:46.39 | jetscreamer | hey i'm tired of Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-k7/source. However, I can not read the target: No such file or directory. Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-k7/source |
| 00:46.42 | dvs | ??? |
| 00:46.42 | stoned | all I have is green |
| 00:46.44 | itchi | mo1991: I dunno |
| 00:46.46 | rahul | heh |
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| 00:46.50 | jetscreamer | me too |
| 00:46.54 | bzed | NetEcho: usually it's a cable problem. or somebody built a loop in your network and the switch does not run STP |
| 00:47.00 | rahul | hmm should I go to ZO2's rock asylum... |
| 00:47.08 | jetscreamer | sweet&tasty |
| 00:47.13 | stoned | jetscreamer: sweet |
| 00:47.16 | stoned | jetscreamer: lets bond |
| 00:47.16 | rahul | wlel, I should definitely have a showre |
| 00:47.17 | stoned | ! |
| 00:47.19 | stoned | James Bond! |
| 00:47.21 | dvs | and tasty |
| 00:47.34 | rahul | there's at least one girl who wants to hang out tonight |
| 00:47.36 | NetEcho | bzed no loop on the network lol |
| 00:47.40 | stoned | rahul: yeh, we don't care :) |
| 00:47.43 | NetEcho | cables should be fine |
| 00:47.46 | NetEcho | never had a problem before |
| 00:47.46 | jetscreamer | ok i'll be tommy and you'll be cheech |
| 00:47.52 | stoned | jetscreamer: works for me |
| 00:47.56 | rahul | markybob: you should come to NYC. girls love geeks here. |
| 00:47.58 | NetEcho | could debian be limiting the upload speed? |
| 00:47.59 | bzed | NetEcho: did you read your _should_ |
| 00:48.03 | rahul | but they don't have such hot asses. |
| 00:48.10 | stoned | rahul: I'm moving to nyc |
| 00:48.10 | stoned | :) |
| 00:48.13 | markybob | rahul, heh :) |
| 00:48.13 | rahul | heh |
| 00:48.14 | stoned | 1 month |
| 00:48.17 | rahul | stoned: really? |
| 00:48.20 | stoned | yeh |
| 00:48.21 | dvs | stoned: you sure now? |
| 00:48.22 | nvz | rahul: I know lots of girls who want to hang out tonight.. just maybe not with geeks :P |
| 00:48.26 | rahul | stoned: I thought you were going to houston? |
| 00:48.26 | bzed | NetEcho: it could but you'd ahve to configure that. what does mii-tool say about your connection? if it works with your card |
| 00:48.26 | stoned | i have to go to houston first though |
| 00:48.32 | rahul | k |
| 00:48.35 | dvs | for how long? |
| 00:48.40 | NetEcho | bzed mii-tool? |
| 00:48.44 | stoned | dvs: yes |
| 00:48.46 | stoned | positive |
| 00:48.50 | bzed | NetEcho: yes :) |
| 00:48.53 | stoned | NetEcho: yes |
| 00:48.56 | rahul | stoned: gonna be here long term? |
| 00:48.56 | stoned | nm |
| 00:48.58 | jetscreamer | hey let me know when you get here stoned, so i visit our farm out-of-town... :) |
| 00:49.00 | NetEcho | sounds like a nintendo wii thing lol |
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| 00:49.07 | jetscreamer | j/k |
| 00:49.13 | bzed | NetEcho: err... mii-diag |
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| 00:49.19 | stoned | jetscreamer: hehe I'll have to get UA so I must quit |
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| 00:49.21 | bzed | NetEcho: that's the right package/tool name |
| 00:49.30 | NetEcho | not found |
| 00:49.31 | jetscreamer | stoned: wtf why |
| 00:49.35 | rahul | UA? |
| 00:49.36 | stoned | jetscreamer: work |
| 00:49.39 | NetEcho | apt-get time |
| 00:49.41 | rahul | oh |
| 00:49.44 | rahul | bastards. |
| 00:49.46 | jetscreamer | stoned: golden seal root extract, get it at gnc |
| 00:49.49 | bzed | NetEcho: there's also /sbin/mii-tool |
| 00:49.52 | jetscreamer | 3 times a day |
| 00:49.53 | stoned | jetscreamer: nah |
| 00:49.54 | NetEcho | eth0 operation failed |
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| 00:50.00 | bzed | NetEcho: I think that will just give you enough info. |
| 00:50.03 | stoned | jetscreamer: fool proof method when I can find clean U from a friend |
| 00:50.03 | jetscreamer | 20 bucks, functional |
| 00:50.07 | NetEcho | where is the config to set it to eth1? |
| 00:50.12 | bzed | NetEcho: ah, well then... dmesg | grep eth0 |
| 00:50.16 | lethias | Has anyone else ran into problems of the system locking while using Gnome for Sarge 3.1 R4 |
| 00:50.20 | NetEcho | bzed its on eth1 |
| 00:50.23 | NetEcho | not eht0 |
| 00:50.32 | stoned | jetscreamer: 2.5 ounce hand sanitizer bottle full of clean U and placed uner nuts with a air activated heating pad on the outside of your boxers |
| 00:50.35 | stoned | jetscreamer: :) |
| 00:50.46 | stoned | jetscreamer: never failed once, but in nyc i dunno anyone with clean U |
| 00:50.49 | bzed | NetEcho: then mii-tool eth1 or dmesg | grep eth |
| 00:50.56 | jetscreamer | stoned: i happen to know for a fact what i said works flawlessly |
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| 00:51.07 | stoned | jetscreamer: cool, what I said works too :) |
| 00:51.16 | stoned | jetscreamer: and it never fails |
| 00:51.51 | jetscreamer | better to just be clean |
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| 00:52.00 | NetEcho | Your link partner advertised 45el: Flow-control 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx 10baseT-FD 10baseT, w/ 802.3X flow control. |
| 00:52.15 | stoned | jetscreamer: exactly |
| 00:52.35 | stoned | jetscreamer: I applied at Manhattan School of Music :) |
| 00:52.39 | stoned | jetscreamer: wish me luck |
| 00:52.40 | jetscreamer | the hair test now, i would wonder about that one |
| 00:52.44 | jetscreamer | g'luck |
| 00:52.53 | NetEcho | could proftpd be limiting the speed? |
| 00:53.06 | stoned | NetEcho: it is possible |
| 00:53.16 | nvz | I dunno I was only drug tested once and had smoked just like 2 days earlier and didnt do anything special and passed |
| 00:53.16 | NetEcho | any idea how to check/fix? |
| 00:53.19 | bzed | NetEcho: if you've configured to do so |
| 00:53.20 | stoned | i know the default vsftpd.conf limits it to 8192/kb/s |
| 00:53.28 | stoned | i think* |
| 00:53.30 | NetEcho | weird |
| 00:53.33 | stoned | pro might do the same |
| 00:53.36 | nvz | I just have very high metabolism and little body fat I guess |
| 00:53.36 | stoned | not sure check it |
| 00:53.42 | stoned | nvz: me too |
| 00:53.50 | jetscreamer | when tf are they going to fix You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead! |
| 00:54.00 | bzed | NetEcho: how fast is scp? |
| 00:54.13 | stoned | jetscreamer: thats, wait what? |
| 00:54.14 | jetscreamer | i just fixed it manually though |
| 00:54.27 | jetscreamer | it's what's in /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 00:54.31 | stoned | oh |
| 00:54.39 | jetscreamer | the place to fix it i mean |
| 00:54.57 | jetscreamer | that's the post-trm hook thing when updating/installing a kernel |
| 00:55.02 | nvz | and most of the shit they sell to flush your system I consume on A daily basis anyhow.. I drink like crazy.. I am always well hydrated.. nobody ever sees me without a drink in my hand of some kind.. usually a sports/energy drink contaning high concentracions of niacinimide. |
| 00:55.08 | jetscreamer | it runs it... but the command calls that stupid msg |
| 00:55.15 | NetEcho | prolly slow |
| 00:55.20 | NetEcho | SSH takes forever to load |
| 00:55.22 | jetscreamer | if you just type update-grub |
| 00:55.24 | stoned | niacin yup |
| 00:55.25 | mo1991 | nobody can tell me how to switch sound output between two soundcards easily? |
| 00:55.27 | bzed | !beer nvz |
| 00:55.43 | stoned | I love grub |
| 00:56.08 | jetscreamer | mo1991: i know to switch from my soundcard to the usb headphones, it's as simple as telling the program to use hw:1 instead of hw:0 |
| 00:56.19 | jetscreamer | hth |
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| 00:56.39 | stew | mo1991: or you can delve into the mystery that is .asoundrc |
| 00:56.53 | bzed | mo1991: the a bit complicated alternative is to install and use jackd and then you have a tool you can use to set your audio routes with |
| 00:57.13 | jetscreamer | funfunfun |
| 00:57.15 | bzed | i need to set it up agai |
| 00:57.17 | stoned | asoundrc |
| 00:57.18 | stew | jetscreamer: i'm sure he loves you two, but you should keep it on topic :P |
| 00:57.19 | bzed | and play with lmms |
| 00:57.33 | nvz | !gay |
| 00:57.34 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 00:57.44 | jetscreamer | i need to hook my guitar up to my computer still... i''m like lame&slow |
| 00:57.51 | stoned | jetscreamer: you play? |
| 00:57.54 | stoned | holy hell |
| 00:57.56 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 00:58.00 | stoned | I did not know |
| 00:58.03 | stew | i might get paid to write a ladspa plugin next week :) |
| 00:58.11 | stoned | stew: cool |
| 00:58.14 | stew | or at least port a filter to ladspa |
| 00:58.23 | stoned | buy rice krispies with it and give em out in #debian |
| 00:58.42 | jetscreamer | what's ladspa |
| 00:58.47 | stew | !ladspa |
| 00:58.47 | dpkg | methinks ladspa is the Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API, see http://www.ladspa.org |
| 00:58.53 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 00:59.12 | mo1991 | stew bzed jetscreamer - I want to be able to change from one sound card to the other on the fly - meaning run a script or click a button and the sound card changes from one to the other for output of xmms, mplayer, etc. - Which method do you recommend for this type of application |
| 00:59.12 | nvz | jetscreamer: its a gay bathouse for young men |
| 00:59.17 | jetscreamer | paid even.. coll |
| 00:59.23 | jetscreamer | cool i mean |
| 00:59.29 | stew | jetscreamer: a generic effects plugin architechture, think VSTs |
| 00:59.35 | NetEcho | something keeps transmitting mass data on teh 15** range |
| 00:59.41 | NetEcho | ever fee seconds it changes ports |
| 00:59.48 | bzed | mo1991: that sounds like something you want jackd for |
| 01:00.05 | bzed | NetEcho: active ftp? |
| 01:00.33 | NetEcho | yea |
| 01:00.38 | jetscreamer | mo1991: that sounds more like .asoundrc or whatever maybe, but beyond me |
| 01:00.43 | NetEcho | but would it change from like 1576 to 1579 ect |
| 01:00.47 | jetscreamer | i read about it once glancingly |
| 01:00.55 | stew | mo1991: if you want crude and simple unload and reload sounddrivers in a different order. if you want to do it right, then mess with asoundrc |
| 01:00.57 | jetscreamer | seemed kinda easy-ish |
| 01:01.05 | NetEcho | 58014 is a bit crazy too |
| 01:01.06 | archville | anyone knows how i can check if my current (precompiled) kernel supports a specific feature ? (kexec, vesafb...) |
| 01:01.24 | stoned | easy peasy |
| 01:01.27 | jetscreamer | grep the /boot/config-whatever maybe, archville |
| 01:01.35 | archville | jetscreamer, ok th |
| 01:01.38 | archville | thanks |
| 01:01.46 | mo1991 | stew - your saying just modprobe snd-whatever - remove and then install module for other card? |
| 01:01.46 | stoned | !sid |
| 01:01.46 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 01:02.16 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: sid =~ s/[and wrongly] //; |
| 01:02.16 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 01:03.01 | NetEcho | its showing another port as ftp but that one isn't going crazy |
| 01:03.03 | bzed | mo1991: http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/?page_id=40 is a good page to start. not sure if you want/need realtime audio, though |
| 01:03.09 | js_ | !sid |
| 01:03.09 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 01:03.34 | stew | mo1991: in general, the first sound module loaded will be hw:0 |
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| 01:03.51 | stew | mo1991: (this is assuming the two cards have different driver) |
| 01:03.53 | bzed | stew: that won't work while xmms is playing music |
| 01:03.54 | eshaase | anyone here have any experience with apt-rpm? and if so, does it work pretty well? |
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| 01:04.12 | stoned | eshaase: it is just rpm now |
| 01:04.15 | stew | bzed: no, certainly not. if that is a requirement, then you probably need to use jack |
| 01:04.16 | bzed | eshaase: why should we have, this is debian |
| 01:04.20 | archville | Mmm, it just finds CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y, but i don't know if it uses nvidiafb or vesafb. |
| 01:04.28 | stoned | eshaase: eshaase apt-get instal rpm also /msg dpkg alien |
| 01:04.28 | bzed | stew: that's what they asked for, if I didn;t read it wrong |
| 01:04.31 | jetscreamer | eshaase: if you mean apt-get for rpm, yes it works well, like under suse or whatever... as long as you have a package source |
| 01:04.49 | jetscreamer | but iirc it's to be deprecated |
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| 01:05.04 | stoned | eshaase: its better to convert (mostly) to deb FROM rpm |
| 01:05.09 | stew | mo1991: if you need to switch on the fly, like while audio is playing, then forget everything about asoundrc and loading and unloading modules and look into jack |
| 01:05.10 | eshaase | bzed: because certain packages that i need exist only in RPM format |
| 01:05.16 | NetEcho | hrm |
| 01:05.18 | stoned | eshaase: which ones? |
| 01:05.25 | bzed | !tell eshaase about alien |
| 01:05.32 | jetscreamer | archville: i don't think it will use nvidiafb unless you make it |
| 01:05.32 | eshaase | stoned: internal company ones =( |
| 01:05.33 | NetEcho | I started filtering multicast traffic and the speed got a tad better |
| 01:05.37 | stoned | bzed: just told him |
| 01:05.52 | maddash | how do i get font-antialiasing working? |
| 01:05.58 | jetscreamer | archville: i don't think you want it to use nvidiafb, according to my experences with it |
| 01:06.01 | eshaase | well, i'm aware of alien and it seems like thats many routes i can take as far as installing RPMs go, I'm just curious which route is the most solid |
| 01:06.03 | archville | jetscreamer, yeah i thought so |
| 01:06.08 | archville | but lsmod | grep nvidiafb |
| 01:06.17 | archville | i2c_core 19680 4 nvidiafb,i2c_algo_bit,nvidia,i2c_i801 |
| 01:06.22 | cmh0101 | anyone know of a good avi to dvd program for linux? |
| 01:06.27 | stoned | maddash: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config and select it there I think |
| 01:06.42 | bzed | cmh0101: i _thik_ k3b can do that. never tried it, though |
| 01:06.46 | eshaase | stoned: oh, i thought apt-rpm was for debian, i guess its not =) |
| 01:06.51 | jetscreamer | cmh0101: first, get marillat. second, avidemux is simple, mencoder is best |
| 01:06.53 | archville | jetscreamer, i wanted to switch to vesafb because nvidiafb conflicted with standard nvidia drivers |
| 01:06.53 | stoned | eshaase: its just rpm |
| 01:06.55 | stoned | !info rpm |
| 01:06.57 | maddash | stoned: as root, right? |
| 01:07.02 | stoned | maddash: or fakeroot |
| 01:07.04 | cmh0101 | thanks so much =) |
| 01:07.05 | dpkg | rpm: (Red Hat package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 4.4.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 810 kB, Installed size: 3440 kB |
| 01:07.07 | jetscreamer | archville: you may need to blacklist the module |
| 01:07.17 | bzed | archville: hmm, I'd go with the nvidia drivers instead, or do you need the fb on console? |
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| 01:07.34 | stoned | oh |
| 01:07.34 | stoned | not you |
| 01:07.38 | NetEcho | damn windows spyware |
| 01:07.39 | cmh0101 | as always fast response from debian users :) |
| 01:07.40 | stoned | maddash: not fakeroot wasn't meant for you. yes as root |
| 01:07.41 | jetscreamer | archville: i've actually removed the modules and symlinked them to the one i wanted loaded, but that's not quite proper |
| 01:07.52 | archville | bzed, in fact i prefer to stick with nvidia drivers + vesafb |
| 01:08.16 | jetscreamer | i'm using vesafb and nvidia on X, iirc |
| 01:08.18 | archville | i don't want nvidiafb at all, because it produces errors of inconsistency in ld.so when nvidia drivers are loaded |
| 01:08.18 | eshaase | stoned: well 'rpm' isn't apt-aware so i'm assuming that problems will arise no? |
| 01:08.25 | jetscreamer | but i don't load the nvidia module till x starts |
| 01:08.31 | dob1 | hi, there are some tools that can automatically create a backup of a directory, every week etc etc, or i have to create a script for this ? :) i am a bit lazy :) |
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| 01:08.33 | stoned | maddash: not sure its there. |
| 01:08.33 | jetscreamer | explicitly i mean |
| 01:08.39 | bzed | eshaase: that's what alien is for |
| 01:08.42 | pstickne | eshaase, see alien? |
| 01:08.42 | jetscreamer | you can, but don't need to |
| 01:08.45 | stoned | eshaase: thats why ou convert it to deb using aliein |
| 01:08.46 | stoned | alien* |
| 01:08.49 | pstickne | eshaase, of course nothing is perfect... |
| 01:08.51 | archville | jetscreamer, did you recompiled the kernel for vesafb ? |
| 01:08.54 | jetscreamer | yes alien |
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| 01:09.01 | jetscreamer | archville: no it's a stock kernel |
| 01:09.06 | eshaase | ok, i guess alien is the way to go, thanks guys |
| 01:09.07 | archville | ah, nice |
| 01:09.17 | archville | so modprobe vesafb ? |
| 01:09.19 | jetscreamer | i have compiled before, a lot, just got tired of messing with it |
| 01:09.24 | NetEcho | I like how debian autoconfigures to show up on windows networks |
| 01:09.37 | stoned | NetEcho: uhh what? |
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| 01:09.42 | archville | i don't know how to unninstall nvidiafb to change it for vesafb |
| 01:09.46 | maddash | stoned: no, fontconfig-config works. but what file does dpkg-reconfigure output the settings to? |
| 01:09.48 | jetscreamer | archville: sounds like maybe hotplug or discover or whatever is loading nvidiafb on_boot... you might need to blacklist it |
| 01:09.50 | NetEcho | the deb installer configured samba automaticly |
| 01:10.02 | jetscreamer | or do you have it listed in /etc/modules, archville ? |
| 01:10.06 | stoned | maddash: you can select aa in your desktop manager |
| 01:10.08 | jetscreamer | if so comment it out |
| 01:10.12 | stoned | maddash: I'm not sure |
| 01:10.26 | stoned | maddash: i know hinting is in fontconfig-config not sure about AA |
| 01:10.42 | archville | it is not on /etc/modules |
| 01:10.42 | abrotman | maddash: check the postinst |
| 01:10.58 | NetEcho | hrm is there a way from in kde to change the X serv resolution? |
| 01:11.03 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 01:11.09 | bzed | maddash: in kde you can change it in the control-center, I think in gnome it's gnome-font-config or so |
| 01:11.10 | jetscreamer | yes NetEcho |
| 01:11.15 | archville | also it isn't on /etc/modules.conf |
| 01:11.17 | stoned | NetEcho: kcontrol > preipherals > display |
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| 01:11.32 | jetscreamer | NetEcho: you can also just use xrandr directly |
| 01:11.32 | archville | how can i blacklist it so it loads vesafb instead ? |
| 01:11.39 | jetscreamer | !blacklist |
| 01:11.39 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. IMPORTANT: ask about blacklist-initramfs |
| 01:11.49 | jetscreamer | is it etch, sarge? |
| 01:11.58 | archville | etch |
| 01:12.10 | jetscreamer | hmmm |
| 01:12.12 | NetEcho | jetscreamer thanks |
| 01:12.13 | bzed | hmm |
| 01:12.16 | NetEcho | I was looking under display |
| 01:12.22 | bzed | isn't the FB loaded from initrd? |
| 01:12.25 | maddash | bzed: wm is in charge of anti-aliasing? |
| 01:12.27 | NetEcho | Lateraly thinking like a windows user :o |
| 01:12.39 | stoned | maddash: no |
| 01:12.53 | jetscreamer | archville: the last 2 lines the bot just pasted |
| 01:12.53 | stoned | maddash: kcontrol font module or gnome-font-config |
| 01:12.54 | NetEcho | :o it only allows a max 1024x768 res on a 17in Widescreen |
| 01:12.56 | archville | well, it worths have a look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. |
| 01:13.00 | NetEcho | jetscreamer know how to change that? |
| 01:13.02 | archville | yeah :) |
| 01:13.06 | jetscreamer | !hwinfo |
| 01:13.07 | dpkg | hwinfo is, like, your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 01:13.09 | stoned | NetEcho: specify xorg.conf |
| 01:13.19 | stoned | NetEcho: in* |
| 01:13.23 | NetEcho | j |
| 01:13.25 | NetEcho | *k |
| 01:13.27 | jetscreamer | put the rates from hwinfo --monitor in xorg.conf |
| 01:13.30 | NetEcho | will I have to restart x? |
| 01:13.33 | stoned | yes |
| 01:13.35 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 01:13.45 | maddash | stoned: i'm not using gnome or kde, which is why i'm asking |
| 01:13.53 | stoned | maddash: is why I figured :) |
| 01:13.54 | pstickne | maddash, still, no :) |
| 01:14.03 | NetEcho | crap I don't remember max res lol |
| 01:14.13 | stoned | NetEcho: google for monitor specs |
| 01:14.16 | archville | well, blacklisted, now it should load vesafb automatically ? |
| 01:14.16 | maddash | pstickne: any idea what is, then? X11? |
| 01:14.18 | NetEcho | its a laptop |
| 01:14.21 | archville | (on reboot i mean) |
| 01:14.24 | stoned | google for its display specs |
| 01:14.26 | NetEcho | hrm |
| 01:14.30 | pstickne | maddash, when you say "AA" are you refering to AA of fonts? |
| 01:14.36 | stoned | pstickne: yes |
| 01:14.47 | NetEcho | 1440x900 |
| 01:14.58 | jetscreamer | archville: no, it just shouldn't load nvidiafb, unless you tell it vga=791 or whatever |
| 01:15.17 | jetscreamer | then it 'should' use vesafb |
| 01:15.19 | rahul | AA means ascii art! |
| 01:15.28 | rahul | kids these days. |
| 01:16.05 | pstickne | maddash, I think it goes through libxft these days. |
| 01:16.05 | archville | mmm, i'll reboot to take a look at what it loads when changing the menu.lst |
| 01:16.05 | archville | thanks for the help :) |
| 01:16.05 | jetscreamer | hth |
| 01:16.06 | rahul | oh right, shower |
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| 01:16.57 | stoned | I love the gren peace |
| 01:16.58 | maddash | pstickne: yes, specifically, my problem is that gtk windows (ie, xmms' "Load file" window) look horrid - the edges of words are jagged |
| 01:16.59 | stoned | ;D |
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| 01:17.24 | stoned | maddash: try a diff gtk theme |
| 01:17.25 | n3kl | Hi. I have been trying to get acidbase working for the past hour. I have it installed and everythign setup good as far as I know. Now when I http://localhost/acidbase, I get /usr/share/php/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php. Does anyone have any idea what this means? |
| 01:17.29 | pstickne | maddash, you need to start the gtk-config crap iirc |
| 01:17.34 | stoned | maddash: switch and switch2 |
| 01:17.40 | jetscreamer | zomg i half2 re_boot my debianizm !!!!!!!! |
| 01:17.43 | n3kl | Error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_pconnect() in /usr/share/php/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 376 |
| 01:17.45 | stoned | gtk-them-switch |
| 01:17.49 | jetscreamer | theme |
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| 01:17.53 | stoned | yeh |
| 01:17.54 | stoned | that |
| 01:18.02 | abrotman | n3kl: php4 or 5 ? |
| 01:18.07 | n3kl | abrotman: 5 |
| 01:18.12 | stew | n3kl: apt-get install php5-mysql |
| 01:18.16 | abrotman | n3kl: aptitude install php5-mysql |
| 01:18.57 | n3kl | its installed |
| 01:18.59 | stoned | and also maddash xmms is old and haggard. try beep media player |
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| 01:19.14 | stoned | maddash: or quod libet |
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| 01:19.18 | abrotman | n3kl: is it enabled in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ? |
| 01:19.32 | stew | n3kl: you'll need "extension=mysql.so" in ^^ |
| 01:19.55 | maddash | stoned: i have. tried default, then thin ice. when neither worked, i tried setting the font via gtk-theme-switch's advanced option. this resulted in the gtk-theme-switch's font changing appropriately, but others (emelfm, xmms, etc) remain the same. |
| 01:20.05 | abrotman | and it's possibly already there .. but with a ; at the front |
| 01:20.15 | stoned | hmm |
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| 01:20.37 | admin_ | Can I compile a 64 bit firefox, on my 32 bit debian platform? (I do have a 64 bit processor), and will FF actually run? |
| 01:20.55 | zinx | you can not |
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| 01:20.58 | admin_ | Darn |
| 01:21.01 | admin_ | Thanks zinx |
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| 01:21.06 | stoned | maddash: here is a suggesstion, just use xfce4. its not too fat and has all that stuff |
| 01:21.10 | abrotman | zinx: cross compile ? |
| 01:21.18 | abrotman | oh .. it won't run on that box though :) |
| 01:21.20 | zinx | abrotman: that would require a full system |
| 01:21.26 | pstickne | crap, what's the name of the per-account X config/startup file? |
| 01:21.26 | zinx | more or less |
| 01:21.30 | xerophyte | considering security in mind, does the logwatch report forwared to external email or you can just forward to root ? i mean i have alias to root to external email .. if the server got hacked they modify the alias ... does it help to hardcode the report to extern email for each program ? |
| 01:21.37 | zinx | abrotman: debian's 32-bit gcc doesn't support amd64 afaik |
| 01:21.41 | abrotman | pstickne: .xsession or .xinitrc ? |
| 01:21.53 | zinx | abrotman: and certainly doesn't have the libraries required |
| 01:21.57 | pstickne | abrotman, that's what I thought but I have neither... and I thought I did O.o |
| 01:22.02 | NetEcho | I tried adding the res to Xserver but it doesn't seem to like to reset x properly |
| 01:22.05 | n3kl | abrotman: stew: frikkin sweet, thanks |
| 01:22.06 | pstickne | I must just be on crack. |
| 01:22.10 | abrotman | pstickne: or the alternatives system |
| 01:22.15 | stoned | pstickne: lol |
| 01:22.18 | NetEcho | I exited gdm and killed the Xserv process but when I fired it back up the resolutions weren't there |
| 01:22.49 | n3kl | thanks again |
| 01:22.58 | stoned | NetEcho: all you need is /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 01:24.25 | NetEcho | how do you start it back up without logging into a tty? |
| 01:24.29 | NetEcho | and rebooting |
| 01:24.35 | stoned | NetEcho: all you need is /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 01:24.44 | NetEcho | now you tell me |
| 01:24.46 | pstickne | maddash, anyway, ensure gnome-settings-daemon is started _before_ you start xmms |
| 01:24.49 | stoned | now you ask me |
| 01:24.49 | stoned | :) |
| 01:24.54 | pstickne | maddash, if that doesn't fix it then *shrug* |
| 01:24.59 | NetEcho | well its asking for a tty login now |
| 01:25.11 | maddash | pstickne: gnome-what? no such thing here. not running gnome |
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| 01:25.23 | dogmeat | which wma -> mp3 converter can i use? |
| 01:25.24 | stoned | NetEcho: stop gdm and go to tty |
| 01:25.27 | archville | Hi again |
| 01:25.30 | maddash | stoned: if you're not too frustrated yet, cf http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtkfontsrm5.png |
| 01:25.40 | pstickne | maddash, many gtk/gnome programs use it for settings like fonts |
| 01:25.46 | archville | Strange, even when i blacklisted nvidiafb, using lsmod | grep nvidiafb still shows it |
| 01:25.52 | NetEcho | stoned its still not showing the new resolutions |
| 01:26.00 | NetEcho | I'll do this from ssh I guess |
| 01:26.01 | stoned | NetEcho: get your resolutions to work if you cant work with gdm |
| 01:26.09 | stoned | then re enable gdm |
| 01:26.10 | archville | But i can use framebuffer and X with the nvidia driver so... i suposse it worked blacklisting |
| 01:26.15 | stoned | of course it not its not a fix |
| 01:26.20 | pstickne | maddash, so I use KDE but I have gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-vfs-daemon running |
| 01:26.23 | karsten | maddash: 'import' is your friend. |
| 01:26.28 | NetEcho | stoned how do you suppose I do that? |
| 01:26.28 | stoned | NetEcho: you specified the resolutions in your xorg.conf? |
| 01:26.36 | NetEcho | yea 1 sec I'll pastebin |
| 01:26.37 | stoned | maddash: hold |
| 01:26.53 | maddash | karsten: :P xwd/gimp work |
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| 01:27.23 | stoned | maddash: ubuntu blasphemy! |
| 01:27.34 | karsten | maddash: import -window root <destfile> |
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| 01:27.45 | stoned | or use scrot |
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| 01:27.53 | karsten | maddash: Automatically selects output format based on the destination file name. Eg: png, jpeg, gif, etc. |
| 01:27.53 | stoned | which supports many formats and compression levels |
| 01:28.00 | maddash | stoned: huh? |
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| 01:28.04 | stoned | scrot! |
| 01:28.07 | stoned | !info scrot |
| 01:28.14 | dpkg | scrot: (command line screen capture utility), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8-7 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 01:28.22 | NetEcho | stoned: http://pastebin.ca/369790 |
| 01:28.22 | karsten | maddash: xwd is _very_ old-school, isn't particularly flexible. |
| 01:28.39 | maddash | karsten: yeah, it isn't. it works on a *gimp* leg. |
| 01:28.42 | stoned | maddash: you're on ubutnu! |
| 01:28.49 | stoned | maddash: you can't hide it from me! |
| 01:28.50 | maddash | stoned: what makes you say that? |
| 01:28.51 | pstickne | eww. ubuntu. eww. |
| 01:29.05 | stoned | maddash: the icon on your applications button |
| 01:29.06 | stoned | :) |
| 01:29.09 | maddash | stoned: LOL |
| 01:29.16 | maddash | that's icehybrid theme for icewm |
| 01:29.28 | maddash | i thought the circle thing was cute |
| 01:29.32 | stoned | ok i'll give you benefit of the doubt |
| 01:29.37 | NetEcho | lol |
| 01:29.39 | stoned | its an ubuntu logo tw |
| 01:29.39 | NetEcho | stoned any idea |
| 01:29.41 | stoned | btw |
| 01:29.45 | stoned | NetEcho: dunno hold |
| 01:29.48 | NetEcho | k |
| 01:29.55 | NetEcho | brb drink |
| 01:30.10 | fsmunoz_ | I say burn him. |
| 01:30.14 | fsmunoz_ | Just in case. |
| 01:30.15 | fsmunoz_ | :D |
| 01:30.18 | stoned | NetEcho: those are not monitor specs |
| 01:30.27 | stoned | you were told to specify monitor/display specs in xorg.conf |
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| 01:30.34 | elein | after an upgrade to etch, my monitor syncmaster 243T only displays 1024x768. It is a 24" monitor. Xorg.conf has been forced with the right v/h rates and limited to higher resolutions but that does not work. Each resolution is rejected per the Xorg.log.0 file. Help? |
| 01:30.46 | karsten | maddash: WRT last night, sash, and apt dependencies: an apt dep is *NOT* the same as a lib dep. Lib deps mean the program *can't* run if the library's not present, or is damaged. The lockfile programs are used by (parts) of sash, but don't fundamentally cripple the executable. |
| 01:31.00 | stoned | NetEcho: apparantly it is not doing it |
| 01:31.01 | karsten | !drx | elein |
| 01:31.08 | stoned | NetEcho: its a laptop? |
| 01:31.12 | eshaase | if i assign all a big block of space to an LVM, theres no way windows can access any of it right? |
| 01:31.23 | karsten | Hrm, that didn't work. |
| 01:31.31 | eshaase | ok, that didn't come out right |
| 01:31.36 | karsten | eshaase: Not without a logical volume manager of its own. |
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| 01:31.43 | karsten | eshaase: /msg dpkg drx |
| 01:31.44 | stoned | NetEcho: actually I've never configured X on laptops I have no idea what to tell you |
| 01:31.51 | NetEcho | stoned yes |
| 01:32.01 | NetEcho | the 1440x900 is the res I had to enter |
| 01:32.01 | maddash | karsten: sash will only run so far until it hits a far call into one of the libraries that sash's apt dependencies house... |
| 01:32.07 | NetEcho | thats my optimal display res |
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| 01:32.30 | stoned | NetEcho: other than the regular monitor thigns, get read-edid discover and/or specify the vertical/horiz. frequences for display in monitor section |
| 01:32.30 | NetEcho | ACK |
| 01:32.35 | eshaase | karsten: does software in windows exist that can access a linux lvm system? |
| 01:32.39 | NetEcho | its using vesa for a Radeon X1400 |
| 01:32.50 | stoned | NetEcho: why not use ati driver |
| 01:32.55 | pstickne | eshaase, could always use vmware... |
| 01:33.00 | NetEcho | I thought it used it already |
| 01:33.00 | pstickne | eshaase, or another full-OS emulator |
| 01:33.00 | NetEcho | gah |
| 01:33.02 | stoned | VirtualBox |
| 01:33.05 | stoned | it is free |
| 01:33.09 | eshaase | pstickne: hmmmm, not a bad idea... |
| 01:33.12 | pstickne | eshaase, I've seen for ext2/3 but not lvm overall |
| 01:33.24 | eshaase | ok, thanks |
| 01:33.30 | stoned | NetEcho: you're using vesa driver or ati driver? |
| 01:33.38 | stoned | NetEcho: check first in xorg.conf device section |
| 01:33.40 | NetEcho | it says vesa in the conf |
| 01:33.53 | stoned | so how could you be using ati then |
| 01:33.56 | stoned | ;) |
| 01:33.59 | NetEcho | Section "Device" |
| 01:33.59 | NetEcho | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.59 | NetEcho | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.59 | NetEcho | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:34.05 | abrotman | !paster |
| 01:34.06 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 01:34.09 | NetEcho | I thought it configured to ati |
| 01:34.10 | NetEcho | usualy does |
| 01:34.13 | karsten | maddash: They're used only in preinst/prerm |
| 01:34.21 | karsten | maddash: Not for the program itself. Per changelogs. |
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| 01:34.35 | MatBoy | I have installed zabbix again, and I'm wondering if I shall use the Zabbix_agent or SNMP to read out a Linux host. the agent is an extra running service, but still this shouldn't be a problem I guess. |
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| 01:34.49 | stoned | maddash: fonts look horrible |
| 01:34.56 | elein | no one has any ideas wrt to my problems above? |
| 01:35.20 | NetEcho | that would explain why it can only use 1024 |
| 01:35.23 | stoned | maddash: i think you can specify the gtk font AA in .gtkrc or something or other |
| 01:35.27 | stoned | maddash: google around |
| 01:35.38 | MatBoy | gogole is your friend :) |
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| 01:35.57 | stoned | Oy googley moogley! *grumble* |
| 01:35.59 | maddash | gargoyle? |
| 01:36.07 | bengoodger | good evening, acquaintances |
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| 01:36.29 | stoned | hhi |
| 01:36.43 | maddash | stoned: bah. die another day. just finished compiling emelfm2, so...nvm for now. |
| 01:36.55 | stoned | alright |
| 01:37.06 | stoned | good movie btw |
| 01:37.15 | stoned | or was it tomorrow never dies |
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| 01:37.18 | stoned | I can't recall |
| 01:37.26 | NetEcho | atleast ati is kind enough to supply a driver installer too |
| 01:37.39 | stoned | NetEcho: ooh umm you don't need to use thier driver |
| 01:37.46 | bengoodger | stoned: it was a terrible movie |
| 01:37.54 | stoned | NetEcho: xserver-xorg-ati I think |
| 01:38.05 | maddash | stoned: tomorrow never dies, but i think DAD was the slogan |
| 01:38.05 | NetEcho | really? |
| 01:38.16 | NetEcho | doesn't their driver work better? |
| 01:38.22 | stoned | xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 01:38.36 | bengoodger | it's the british-yet-not-fat-with-stupid-smile-mozilla-corporation-employee one :P |
| 01:38.40 | stoned | that the opensource ati driver |
| 01:38.51 | stoned | for your card it should be fine, I'm not sure it has 3d accel though |
| 01:38.53 | NetEcho | do I have to re-run the config program for xorg? |
| 01:39.05 | karsten | bengoodger: How's reading? |
| 01:39.08 | stoned | NetEcho: no just edit /etcX``/xorg.conf |
| 01:39.12 | stoned | er.. |
| 01:39.16 | stoned | you know where it is |
| 01:39.21 | NetEcho | yea |
| 01:39.23 | elein | perhaps I should update the driver? I'm not sure how. |
| 01:39.27 | bengoodger | karsten: whah? |
| 01:39.28 | archville | got a stupid question |
| 01:39.29 | NetEcho | ati supplys a xorg driver too |
| 01:39.37 | stoned | ati, but dont' use it |
| 01:39.47 | karsten | bengoodger: NM. |
| 01:39.48 | stoned | er.. NetEcho use /msg dpkg fglrx if you msut |
| 01:39.51 | stoned | !fglrx |
| 01:39.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz), or for sarge/stable, see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver |
| 01:39.52 | NetEcho | but its got 3d support |
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| 01:39.59 | NetEcho | yea the ati xorg driver is fglrx |
| 01:40.01 | archville | i've noticed when i logout as an user, the system clears the screen before showing Login again, but i doesn't clear it if I logout as root ¿ why ? |
| 01:40.07 | abrotman | !drxx elein |
| 01:40.07 | dpkg | elein: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:40.26 | karsten | archville: ~/.bash_logout |
| 01:40.57 | archville | # when leaving the console clear the screen to increase privacy |
| 01:40.59 | archville | interesting |
| 01:41.10 | archville | but why only on users by default and not on root ? |
| 01:41.22 | elein | I have reconfigured xserver-xorg many times to no avail. what does !drxx mean? |
| 01:41.37 | bzed | archville: there's no need that /usr/bin/clear_console -q is avaiable when root logs out |
| 01:41.37 | karsten | archville: Because. "echo clear > ~/.bash_logut" as root if you're unhappy about it. |
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| 01:41.58 | karsten | elein: Check the message dpkg sent you, read it, follow instructions, ask intelligent followups. |
| 01:42.11 | bzed | archville: root could be in *whatever* kind of rescue mode, and /usr not beeing mounted |
| 01:42.13 | archville | karsten, no i really... don't care as i'm the only user here but it was strange when noticed it |
| 01:42.44 | bengoodger | anyway... |
| 01:42.50 | archville | i just found interesting it was put there to increase privacy :) |
| 01:43.18 | bengoodger | could someone please help me extensively with grub? I'm suffering through an ubuntu livecd, and can't get grub to reinstall properly following a windows install |
| 01:43.24 | elein | karsten, I have reconfigured xserver-xorg both via dpkg-reconfigure and by hand. I can't seem to force the display size. |
| 01:43.44 | bengoodger | my hard disk layout is as follows: |
| 01:44.16 | stoned | bengoodger: doesn't matter. you have to boot the linux os first and grub-install /dev/blah |
| 01:44.25 | bengoodger | stoned: doesn't work |
| 01:44.29 | bengoodger | none of the guides work.. |
| 01:44.52 | karsten | elein: Then you're doing something wrong. |
| 01:45.00 | stoned | bengoodger: you installed windows on top of an installation fo grub/debian and now are using ubuntu live cd |
| 01:45.16 | stoned | ? |
| 01:45.19 | bengoodger | stoned: no, I reinstalled windows where it already was |
| 01:45.19 | karsten | elein: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find out why, or communicate sufficient information to the channel that someone here might guide you. |
| 01:45.31 | bengoodger | give me a second while I complete my pastebin |
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| 01:47.16 | abrotman | elein: have you checked the X log ? |
| 01:47.34 | thorat | barbarella: your mission, find Durand Durand |
| 01:47.50 | stoned | bengoodger: you can try to install grub for windows. basically modify boot.ini to add an enry like c:\grldr which loads grub. then modify c:\grub\(or whereever) menu.lst and put in your linux root parition. like specify the hd(blah,blah) kernel /linux root=/dev/blah initrd /initrd |
| 01:47.57 | stoned | something like that |
| 01:48.06 | elein | yes, of course. It explicitly rejects all but the 1024x768 resolution even though I specified higher resolution in xserver-org |
| 01:48.25 | bengoodger | I'd much rather just make my linux one work, since update-grub is nice |
| 01:48.31 | stoned | bengoodger: afaik debian generates symlinks in /linux /initrd for /boot/kernel image file name etc. |
| 01:48.56 | stoned | bengoodger: then, when you use it and get to boot linux, then you can do grub-install /dev/blah and install grub back on mbr |
| 01:49.05 | stoned | bengoodger: other than that I dunno what to tell you cuz I dunno |
| 01:49.17 | abrotman | elein: which card ? |
| 01:49.19 | bengoodger | installing grub to mbr fails utterly, from chroot |
| 01:50.04 | elein | I'm starting to think it is a driver problem, but I don't know how to check that. I don't know what vcard, but I do know it doesn't go to the highest resolution of the screen, but pretty close. |
| 01:50.15 | abrotman | elein: lspci | grep VGA |
| 01:50.51 | elein | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter |
| 01:51.00 | stoned | bengoodger: I don't know if chrooting has anything to do with where grub installs itself |
| 01:51.14 | bengoodger | http://pastebin.ca/369802 |
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| 01:51.47 | elein | abrotman, what does that tell us? |
| 01:51.50 | abrotman | elein: and you're using the sis driver ? |
| 01:51.53 | stoned | that means nothing to me |
| 01:51.55 | bengoodger | grub-install hd0 works without failure, but then does nothing on boot |
| 01:52.06 | abrotman | elein: can you paste your xorg.conf and your X log somewhere? |
| 01:52.07 | abrotman | !paster |
| 01:52.07 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 01:52.08 | elein | abrotman, tried both sis and vesa |
| 01:52.19 | abrotman | vesa only does 800x600 |
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| 01:53.12 | stoned | bengoodger: I think you have to specify like hd(0,0) |
| 01:53.13 | stoned | maybe |
| 01:53.18 | stoned | no? |
| 01:53.41 | bengoodger | possibly |
| 01:53.43 | bengoodger | trying now.. |
| 01:53.52 | stoned | I don't think so but I can't remember! |
| 01:54.05 | bengoodger | gotta love GNU GRUB |
| 01:54.13 | bengoodger | probably my least favourite part of the entire OS |
| 01:54.21 | stoned | grub is awesome |
| 01:54.40 | stoned | I mean I told you what to do |
| 01:55.02 | stoned | which I think works better because if you your on grub on mbr, and you select accidentally windows, you have to reset to get back to grub menu |
| 01:55.04 | bengoodger | I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying it fails miserably on everything I try to do |
| 01:55.06 | zinx | grub > * > lilo > windows/dos bootloader |
| 01:55.16 | stoned | this way, with grub under NT/windows, you can link it back to the other grub |
| 01:55.19 | stoned | go back and forth |
| 01:55.20 | stoned | :D |
| 01:55.22 | bengoodger | zinx: syntax is a cow |
| 01:55.38 | zinx | bengooder: the other bootloaders don't *have* a syntax :P |
| 01:55.46 | bengoodger | zinx: precisely |
| 01:55.55 | zinx | bengooder: ... use the menu |
| 01:55.56 | elein | abrotman, xorg.conf : http://channels.debian.net/paste/5471 |
| 01:55.57 | bengoodger | windows' one has a nice tidy GUI |
| 01:56.12 | bengoodger | zinx: what menu? |
| 01:56.27 | zinx | bengooder: the GRUB menu.. the one that is setup/enabled by default in debian. |
| 01:56.50 | bengoodger | zinx: since I reinstalled windows in-place, I no longer get that |
| 01:56.57 | bengoodger | and am trying to get it back with increasing annoyance |
| 01:57.11 | zinx | reinstall grub properly :x |
| 01:57.13 | stoned | bengoodger: of course you don't |
| 01:57.34 | bengoodger | stoned: there is no reason for it, particularly since windows' mbr was very specifically installed to another disk |
| 01:57.45 | bengoodger | zinx: what the hell do you think I'm trying to do? |
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| 01:58.33 | stoned | you can use ntldr to load grub to load linux to install grub back on mbr |
| 01:58.41 | stoned | this is what I know, and is trivial to setup |
| 01:58.45 | stoned | less than 5m inutes |
| 01:58.58 | stoned | or you can waste another 15 here debating |
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| 01:59.08 | stoned | and don't install windows on top of grub again you'll lose grub |
| 01:59.17 | geo-rge | one grub install concept that works for me every time... grub boots from mbr or partition boot sector, and chainloads stage2 directly |
| 01:59.24 | stoned | unless you put it on a partition and not mbr so you can change active parittion |
| 01:59.30 | bengoodger | stoned: I didn't install windows on top of grub, I installed windows to another partition and its MBR to another disk |
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| 01:59.44 | stoned | bengoodger: apparantly not. |
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| 02:00.12 | bengoodger | stoned: if I remove the disk I installed windows-mbr to, it doesn't boot any more |
| 02:00.13 | stoned | you have a choice in where to install the windows bootloader |
| 02:00.15 | stoned | huh |
| 02:00.22 | stoned | i did not know this |
| 02:00.25 | bengoodger | stoned: yes, it's the first drive it detects |
| 02:00.31 | stoned | bengoodger: thats not a choice |
| 02:00.50 | bengoodger | by careful fiddling with jumpers and cables you can coax it into installing MBR to a different drive than windows |
| 02:00.55 | karsten | Hrm. Is there a way to tell sudo to be noninteractive? Eg: don't prompt for a password if you need one? |
| 02:01.20 | bengoodger | karsten: er... |
| 02:01.21 | abrotman | elein: i don't see anything wrong there |
| 02:01.24 | stoned | karsten: you can set limit higher than 15 minutes |
| 02:01.29 | bengoodger | have you missed the point of authentication? |
| 02:01.37 | geo-rge | you're someone who does know what they're doing.... |
| 02:01.39 | stoned | limit to remember password since you last enter it |
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| 02:01.51 | zinx | karsten: yes |
| 02:01.52 | stoned | karsten: check man sudo i forget the switch |
| 02:02.08 | elein | abrotman, I'm working on the xorg.0.log |
| 02:02.10 | geo-rge | karsten: if not, I'd be telling you about how ungood that idea is... |
| 02:02.17 | zinx | karsten: NOPASSWD or something in sudoers |
| 02:02.26 | karsten | bengoodger: invoking a script, I'd prefer not having to rewrite a whole lot of it, it uses sudo, I'd like it not to prompt. Failover mode should be to just fail, rather than block on input. |
| 02:02.27 | stoned | or that |
| 02:02.31 | abrotman | elein: ok |
| 02:02.32 | zinx | karsten: but that means you don't need one, not that it doesn't prompt when you need one :/ |
| 02:02.41 | zinx | karsten: ah |
| 02:02.47 | karsten | stoned: that's not the issue. Farm, lots of hosts, I'd like it to just break. |
| 02:02.55 | stoned | lol |
| 02:02.58 | bengoodger | karsten: run the script with sudo, it will think it's already root and not prompt |
| 02:03.27 | stoned | uh what? |
| 02:03.30 | karsten | bengoodger: invoked via remote access. May or may not be rootly. |
| 02:03.33 | geo-rge | subadooba |
| 02:03.47 | stoned | doobiesnacks! |
| 02:04.09 | stoned | doober doobery doobage |
| 02:04.13 | geo-rge | I guess the doobie bros were aptly named |
| 02:04.15 | stoned | eh hmm. |
| 02:04.33 | bengoodger | karsten: well, if you need the script to run something as root then you need to authenticate |
| 02:04.54 | maddash | what does ${shlibs:Depends} mean? |
| 02:04.59 | bengoodger | or, you can be an utter moron and impose a linspire-style security model on your system (EVERYONE IS ROOT LOL) |
| 02:05.03 | geo-rge | info bash |
| 02:05.05 | geo-rge | and see :) |
| 02:05.54 | maddash | `dpkg -b ./` is tripping over '${shlibs:Depends}' |
| 02:06.01 | karsten | bengoodger: Or it would be nice to be able to tell sudo somehow (environment, update file, etc.) "just check to see if the status has been updated and is current, and if not, fail and don't run the command given you. Just don't make me sit here and wait for you, 'coz I'm not". |
| 02:06.04 | geo-rge | but also that's a config parameter often appearing in a package, it means the libs already on the machine will be used in the dependency |
| 02:06.14 | karsten | bengoodger: IOW: Just fail, damnit. |
| 02:06.38 | karsten | bengoodger: There's an option to read from stdin. |
| 02:06.43 | stoned | ahh boy |
| 02:06.53 | bengoodger | ah, so you want to make your script check to see whether it's got sudo rights |
| 02:06.55 | bengoodger | hmm |
| 02:07.33 | bengoodger | is there some sort of harmless root-only command you can run with a known outcome? |
| 02:07.38 | bengoodger | ooh, kanji |
| 02:07.49 | geo-rge | bengoodger: like I said, he's been around, he's not some "uhh how do you make it so a file appear on the screeeen" kinda guys |
| 02:08.06 | karsten | bengoodger: try to cat a file that's only readable by root. |
| 02:08.09 | bengoodger | geo-rge: evidently |
| 02:08.13 | bengoodger | karsten: good idea |
| 02:08.29 | geo-rge | if not, someone incl possibly me would be telling him how ungood the idea is |
| 02:08.35 | karsten | bengoodger: The upshot here si I'm going to have to rewrite parts of a script, but it's relatively simple, so that's not too bad a problem. |
| 02:08.48 | karsten | bengoodger: Might actually make sense to somewhat merge them. Hrm. |
| 02:08.49 | bengoodger | so, you check the outcome of that command against what it should be; if it's not, then you presume "no root, bitch" and return 1 |
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| 02:10.07 | bengoodger | incidentally, does anyone have any ideas on macbook wireless? |
| 02:10.30 | bengoodger | network-manager detects the networks, but when told to connect doesn't do much... |
| 02:11.49 | bengoodger | karsten: I've not yet had any explanation for your "how's reading?" comment |
| 02:12.36 | elein | karsten, xorg.0.log http://channels.debian.net/paste/5473. |
| 02:13.06 | bengoodger | right, let's see whether this works nicely or not |
| 02:13.21 | elein | abrotman, see msg to karsten. was confused. |
| 02:13.41 | abrotman | msg to karsten ? |
| 02:14.20 | stoned | reply to karsten |
| 02:14.23 | stoned | his |
| 02:14.36 | stoned | the links or soemthing |
| 02:14.39 | archville | uhmmm, how realiable it is using kexec on a server ? |
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| 02:15.18 | abrotman | elein: says your sync values aren't right |
| 02:15.45 | ki11bi11 | what should i use to set up dns on a lan? |
| 02:15.47 | elein | what are sync values and where do i set them |
| 02:16.03 | abrotman | elein: the monitor section has some already |
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| 02:17.41 | rahul | stoned: how long will you be staying in nyc? got a place lined up? |
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| 02:17.52 | stoned | rahul: I dunno |
| 02:17.56 | elein | I set the h and v sync to be right according to the specs of the termnial. |
| 02:18.03 | stoned | rahul: I'm checking things out |
| 02:18.27 | elein | I chose the display modes from what was offered to me in refconfig xserver-xorg. |
| 02:18.32 | stoned | I'm going to houston by the end of the month, and maybe a month after im checking nyc |
| 02:18.38 | rahul | cool |
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| 02:18.45 | elein | abrotman which things do you mean. |
| 02:18.47 | stoned | I plan on visiting LA and seattle too |
| 02:18.50 | stoned | soon |
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| 02:19.21 | stoned | only one way to be sure of where I want to live. visit em all :) |
| 02:19.26 | rahul | heh |
| 02:19.34 | charles | any network experts here? I'm having a hell of a time setting up my gateway |
| 02:19.37 | rahul | or just come to NYC and stay there :) |
| 02:19.39 | abrotman | elein: in the monitor section |
| 02:19.50 | rahul | karsten: how ... puzzling |
| 02:19.56 | abrotman | charles: we need more details |
| 02:20.07 | karsten | abrotman: No, details are *so* 20th century. |
| 02:20.45 | charles | I can't get through my network gateway to a public ip behind it |
| 02:20.46 | elein | abrotman, do you mean the options? The h and v are set according to the terminal spec |
| 02:20.55 | karsten | charles: Waht are youtrying to do, define "gateway". Trying to define a default gateway route, or configure a Linux NAT server? |
| 02:21.06 | rahul | ok, I better get goin |
| 02:21.08 | abrotman | elein: in your log .. it says it's trying to use a refresh outside DCC values |
| 02:21.18 | charles | dsl -> (eth0: gateway : eth2) -> other machine with public ip |
| 02:21.21 | karsten | charles: What's the gateway system? What's your local route? /msg dpkg paster |
| 02:21.50 | karsten | charles: .. then paste (TO THE PASTEBIN!): ifconfig -a; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf; host google.com |
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| 02:22.00 | charles | ok |
| 02:22.02 | beox | Good night to all, alguem can help me. I am installing a package through apt-get, that it only needs configuration through dialog, but am receiving the following error debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Noninteractive debconf: (Can't locate Debconf/FrontEnd/.pm in @INC they alguem already passed therefore |
| 02:22.08 | VolVE | Anyone here use Munin at all? I'm having trouble getting the SNMP plugins to actually generate stats... :-/ |
| 02:22.28 | karsten | charles: If the gateway isn't some, say, Linksys cable modem type thing, make sure it's configured to forward traffic |
| 02:22.45 | beox | :) |
| 02:23.06 | charles | http://pastebin.ca/369836 |
| 02:23.19 | karsten | charles: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" may be the fix. |
| 02:23.30 | beox | I am not very good with lan English =/ |
| 02:23.33 | elein | abrotman, ok I see it. what does that mean and how can I change it? |
| 02:23.34 | beox | lang* |
| 02:23.35 | NetEcho | whats the xorg config program command? |
| 02:23.40 | charles | I'm connected through the machine right now |
| 02:24.02 | charles | it's 1, from an init script on startup |
| 02:24.03 | karsten | charles: Um, if you can, drop the firewall first. |
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| 02:24.12 | karsten | charles: OK WRT ip_forward. |
| 02:24.30 | abrotman | elein: maybe use hwinfo or demidecode to see what the values should be |
| 02:24.37 | karsten | charles: We want to make sure you've got networking set up, first, then try to close stuff off. |
| 02:24.37 | beox | NetEcho I find that not, it is only one screen of simple configuration in Perl, that does not only obtain to load, is in terminal. |
| 02:24.54 | charles | right.. |
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| 02:25.02 | NetEcho | beox what? |
| 02:25.04 | charles | I'm connected through a nat'd box right now going through the gateway |
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| 02:25.18 | NetEcho | I'm looking for the xorg config command similar to xfree86config or whatever it was |
| 02:25.32 | elein | abrotman, i don't have those commands, if they are commands |
| 02:25.39 | abrotman | you must install the packages |
| 02:25.40 | beox | NetEcho this problem happens with all packages that need some configuration during the installation, and finished to install debian. |
| 02:25.45 | beox | NetEcho hmmmmmmm |
| 02:25.47 | abrotman | NetEcho: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 02:25.58 | beox | :) |
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| 02:26.09 | beox | Good night to all, alguem can help me. I am installing a package through apt-get, that it only needs configuration through dialog, but am receiving the following error debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Noninteractive debconf: (Can't locate Debconf/FrontEnd/.pm in @INC they alguem already passed therefore |
| 02:26.32 | karsten | charles: Hrm. Looks reasonably sane on the base box, with the exception of too many interfaces for starters. I'd start with having *just* eth2 up, no firewall, and seeing what does or doesn't work there. TOo much here for me to give you personal love, sorry. |
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| 02:28.34 | beox | =/ |
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| 02:29.26 | charles | I can get out from both machines, I can get in to the nat'd machine through port forwarding, I can't get to the public machine from the oustide |
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| 02:31.07 | abrotman | beox: dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog debconf |
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| 02:33.56 | raf256 | how to check which program have a write open files in /usr? so that mount /usr -o remount,ro doesnt work |
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| 02:34.06 | justin | raf256: lsof |
| 02:34.19 | beox | abrotman yehhhhhhhhh |
| 02:34.22 | beox | abrotman tkzzz |
| 02:34.27 | beox | abrotman :D |
| 02:34.50 | abrotman | all good ? |
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| 02:35.59 | raf256 | justin: and...? |
| 02:36.17 | NetEcho | xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration |
| 02:36.17 | NetEcho | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:36.33 | NetEcho | e/usr/share/xresprobe/xprobe.sh: line 44: 9358 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/Xorg :67 -ac -probeonly -logfile "$TMPLOG" -config "$TMPCONF" >"$TMPOUT" 2>&1 |
| 02:36.38 | NetEcho | segment fault? |
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| 02:37.47 | xhuL | . |
| 02:38.04 | raf256 | can /usr be read only? |
| 02:38.32 | raf256 | because I can't do -o remount,ro /usr |
| 02:38.47 | helloyo | i think i have installed my nvidia drivers, but i can't run glxinfo, or glxgears... |
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| 02:39.03 | NetEcho | anyone have an idea why that segment fault is hapening? |
| 02:39.14 | justin | helloyo: you can't run them? why not? |
| 02:39.17 | beox | abrotman yes! |
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| 02:39.46 | abrotman | ok |
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| 02:40.03 | NetEcho | hrm I may have to re-conf |
| 02:40.15 | helloyo | justin: they don't exist it seems |
| 02:40.16 | whitesuit | he guys any idea when etch is getting a new kernel ? the current version of gdb in etch has a nasty bugs that spits out failed to read memory image with newer kernels..im not sure if 2.6.20 solves it |
| 02:40.27 | justin | helloyo: so install them |
| 02:40.44 | helloyo | justin: what are they installed with? |
| 02:41.02 | justin | !tell helloyo about search |
| 02:41.25 | helloyo | thanks justin |
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| 02:41.40 | elein | abrotman, wow that was a Whole lot of nothing in hwinfo--i couldn't even see a section for the monitor. |
| 02:42.02 | abrotman | hwinfo --monitor |
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| 02:43.55 | cheal | whitesuit: not anytime soon. possibly in a year or so (at least for major Linux versions) |
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| 02:45.05 | whitesuit | cheal, really ? the testing distribution? i hoped it would get updated after etch becomes stable |
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| 02:45.45 | cheal | whitesuit: testing is another thing. perhaps in 3 months |
| 02:46.20 | NetEcho | wtf |
| 02:46.29 | NetEcho | xorg won't accept ati drivers at all |
| 02:46.38 | Unclefragger | it does |
| 02:46.44 | Unclefragger | with vanilla sources |
| 02:47.15 | Unclefragger | stable kernels worked too |
| 02:47.25 | Unclefragger | but etch/sid didn't worked for me |
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| 02:48.08 | ki11bi11 | is there a good front end for dns bind |
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| 02:48.34 | elein | abrotman, hwinfo --monitor http://channels.debian.net/paste/5474. |
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| 02:49.35 | abrotman | elein: well .. according to that .. you shold be able to get 1920x1200@60 |
| 02:50.05 | gopher24 | hello people I just install the latest stable debian and in installed a 2.4 kernel ! does that sound right ? |
| 02:50.22 | cheal | gopher24: yes |
| 02:50.38 | Unclefragger | sounds like an old system, but seems to work ^^ |
| 02:51.35 | elein | abrotman, I checked the screen reso program and now it seems to work!!! I've got 1680x1050. |
| 02:51.37 | gopher24 | cheal: is etch supposed to have a 2.6? |
| 02:52.13 | elein | i think it was something i did before but did not check the screen resolution program. |
| 02:52.17 | geo-rge | I guess it has 2.6.18 |
| 02:52.29 | elein | abrotman, thank you for your patience and time! |
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| 02:53.00 | NetEcho | can someone help me with xorg? |
| 02:53.02 | cheal | gopher24: yes |
| 02:53.16 | beox | egrub tkz |
| 02:53.19 | beox | egrub bye |
| 02:53.20 | beox | thau |
| 02:53.24 | beox | obrigado a todos |
| 02:53.34 | geo-rge | NetEcho: not until you ask a question about it... best way: be a sicco! |
| 02:53.35 | cheal | NetEcho: it's unlikely that anyone can answer that question without knowing how you can be helped |
| 02:53.37 | Cholito | netdrake, a lot of poeple |
| 02:53.38 | geo-rge | !sicco |
| 02:53.38 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 02:53.42 | NetEcho | geo-rge I have been |
| 02:53.44 | NetEcho | like 5 times |
| 02:53.44 | Cholito | beox, wrong channel |
| 02:53.56 | NetEcho | it won't accept any config other than a vesa config for an ati card |
| 02:54.02 | abrotman | elein: eh .. okay :) |
| 02:54.03 | Cholito | beox, its debian-es |
| 02:54.03 | beox | Cholito wrong ? |
| 02:54.04 | NetEcho | ati driver and fglrx don't work at all |
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| 02:54.08 | NetEcho | it just segment faults |
| 02:54.10 | beox | ah si si si |
| 02:54.11 | beox | :) |
| 02:54.14 | gopher24 | is it safe to install etch yet for a server even though its not officall ? |
| 02:54.15 | Cholito | xDDD |
| 02:54.15 | beox | retorno amanha :D |
| 02:54.15 | NetEcho | want me to pastebin the vesa and ati configs? |
| 02:54.16 | loiic | Hi there |
| 02:54.38 | beox | Cholito amanha , join debian-rs, retorn :) :D |
| 02:55.01 | stoned | !ra |
| 02:55.04 | stoned | !rs |
| 02:55.04 | dpkg | A real soundcard (or a good soundcard, or better than bad) does hardware mixing, that means, play more audio streams at once, without any sounddaemons and similar.. things. They are not expensive (depends on your demands of quality, but in general) get one and be happy. |
| 02:55.11 | stoned | russian? |
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| 02:55.24 | loiic | does anyone know how to secure erase a hard disk partition on a debian system ? |
| 02:55.54 | geo-rge | NetEcho: probably they would be helpful to whoever is helping |
| 02:56.05 | cheal | gopher24: "safe" is vague. I suggest to look at the list of bugs which keep Etch from being released to get an idea. |
| 02:56.11 | NetEcho | well I'm not gonna post it for nothing |
| 02:56.19 | NetEcho | nobody but you has replied to my problem since like 7 pm |
| 02:56.33 | geo-rge | oh, that's 5 mins from now :) |
| 02:56.38 | NetEcho | no |
| 02:56.44 | NetEcho | thats 3 hours from now |
| 02:56.47 | NetEcho | its 10pm |
| 02:56.57 | geo-rge | oh, even more back to the future! |
| 02:57.41 | geo-rge | well, one thing you ought to do... is rule out any possibility your hardware is failing |
| 02:58.03 | NetEcho | I have |
| 02:58.06 | NetEcho | it works with vesa |
| 02:58.09 | NetEcho | as I've said 4 times |
| 02:58.12 | NetEcho | and its brand new |
| 02:58.18 | NetEcho | and it works in Windows flawlessly |
| 02:58.24 | geo-rge | not to me, and not that I know of. |
| 02:58.33 | NetEcho | [21:53:46] <NetEcho> it won't accept any config other than a vesa config for an ati card |
| 02:58.37 | NetEcho | [21:53:53] <NetEcho> ati driver and fglrx don't work at all |
| 02:58.40 | NetEcho | [21:53:58] <NetEcho> it just segment faults |
| 02:58.44 | NetEcho | [21:54:05] <NetEcho> want me to pastebin the vesa and ati configs? |
| 02:58.53 | NetEcho | wow looks like I said it a few mins ago |
| 02:59.01 | stoned | NetEcho: holy shit man |
| 02:59.09 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.13 | stoned | fuck |
| 02:59.19 | geo-rge | you're trying to prove to me that you've told -me- 4 times |
| 02:59.28 | NetEcho | no i've said it 4 times in channel |
| 02:59.35 | NetEcho | one of those times a few mins ago |
| 02:59.42 | abrotman | for which card ? |
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| 03:00.09 | NetEcho | Mobile AT Radeon X1400 |
| 03:00.48 | NetEcho | *ATI |
| 03:01.14 | abrotman | in etch ? |
| 03:01.20 | abrotman | does the fglrx even support that ? |
| 03:01.21 | NetEcho | yea |
| 03:01.29 | NetEcho | fglrx is for radeons |
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| 03:01.36 | NetEcho | http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html |
| 03:01.39 | NetEcho | its listed ther4e |
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| 03:01.46 | abrotman | so is the radeon driver |
| 03:02.06 | NetEcho | all ati drivers I've tried don't work |
| 03:02.10 | abrotman | !fglrx |
| 03:02.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz), or for sarge/stable, see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver |
| 03:02.19 | abrotman | if you need newer .. ask #ati how to make it work right |
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| 03:03.07 | NetEcho | already tried that but it removed almost all of my packages |
| 03:03.13 | NetEcho | including most of gnome |
| 03:03.28 | geo-rge | probably, that's ultimately what you need to do... I'm not sure either that fglrx will drive that card |
| 03:03.40 | `Z` | hi |
| 03:04.03 | geo-rge | so you were getting packages for either an earlier or later version of debian |
| 03:04.12 | geo-rge | it looks like it wanted to upgrade you |
| 03:05.11 | NetEcho | apt can't find 4 of those packages |
| 03:05.39 | abrotman | show us your sources |
| 03:05.42 | abrotman | !paster |
| 03:05.42 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 03:05.54 | NetEcho | what sources? |
| 03:05.58 | NetEcho | you mean sources.list? |
| 03:06.09 | geo-rge | yep |
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| 03:06.26 | dav_ | elo |
| 03:06.28 | NetEcho | http://channels.debian.net/paste/5476 |
| 03:07.07 | dav_ | cld someone give me a google clue for managing pop account on a server tat are not real users but just pop account ? |
| 03:07.41 | geo-rge | !googly kloogly |
| 03:07.44 | swa_mobil | apt-get install fglrx-control fglrx-driver fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:07.56 | NetEcho | :o |
| 03:08.07 | NetEcho | I take it that does prettymuch everything in 1 shot? |
| 03:08.19 | abrotman | NetEcho: apt-get update ... try again |
| 03:08.22 | NetEcho | only thing is |
| 03:08.24 | NetEcho | ok |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | only thing ? |
| 03:08.36 | abrotman | one only kid .. one only kid |
| 03:08.48 | NetEcho | much better |
| 03:08.59 | NetEcho | nm you just fixed it |
| 03:09.01 | geo-rge | you might get your old packages back... just like playing any country tune backwares.. |
| 03:09.14 | abrotman | NetEcho: rabbit is wise .. rabbit is good! |
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| 03:10.00 | NetEcho | already brought my old packages back |
| 03:10.02 | NetEcho | and they weren't old either |
| 03:10.11 | NetEcho | considering this install is about 26 hours old |
| 03:10.13 | abrotman | is that bad ? |
| 03:10.15 | NetEcho | netinst |
| 03:10.38 | abrotman | you're running etch .. which is currently testing .. which is changing about every two hours while they get ready for a release |
| 03:10.57 | NetEcho | yea |
| 03:11.12 | NetEcho | I've been running upgrade/dist-upgrade every once in a while |
| 03:11.16 | NetEcho | no changes to my packs |
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| 03:11.40 | justin | NetEcho: you need to run update also |
| 03:11.53 | NetEcho | k |
| 03:11.56 | NetEcho | hrm so far so good |
| 03:12.10 | NetEcho | looks like its using a newer res like I wanted |
| 03:13.34 | NetEcho | thx abrotman |
| 03:13.54 | NetEcho | wow still 300 files left to upload |
| 03:14.00 | NetEcho | been doing it since bout 6:30 lol |
| 03:14.03 | abrotman | broke another pick ... |
| 03:14.06 | abrotman | NetEcho: have fun |
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| 03:14.48 | NetEcho | hrm |
| 03:14.53 | NetEcho | control center won't load tho |
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| 03:21.33 | geo-rge | abrotman, get one of those Jim Dunlop jazz picks (3 kinds) |
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| 03:21.58 | abrotman | geo-rge: i don't really use a pick .. i just had one handy while i was tuning this thing |
| 03:22.37 | impulse6 | does man 3 open exist? |
| 03:23.11 | impulse6 | or what package is that manual page in? |
| 03:23.12 | abrotman | i've got 1 and 2 |
| 03:23.52 | abrotman | manpages-dev |
| 03:24.18 | abrotman | the part that bothers me is the little piece of plastic somewhere :) |
| 03:25.08 | impulse6 | manpages-dev is installed, but the page is missing |
| 03:25.23 | abrotman | man -k open |
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| 03:25.46 | cheal | impulse6: it exists, yes |
| 03:26.22 | abrotman | !find man3/open.3.gz |
| 03:26.36 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'man3/open.3.gz' returned no results. |
| 03:27.14 | NetEcho | is there a listing of packages in apt with categories? |
| 03:27.24 | abrotman | eh ? |
| 03:27.38 | NetEcho | website listing |
| 03:28.05 | abrotman | packages.debian.org ? |
| 03:28.55 | impulse6 | is there a debian dev channel? |
| 03:29.10 | NetEcho | is etch testing or unstable? |
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| 03:29.14 | abrotman | there isn't a man 3 open |
| 03:29.20 | impulse6 | testing |
| 03:29.22 | abrotman | cheal: where'd you get yours ? |
| 03:29.23 | impulse6 | unstable is sid |
| 03:29.25 | hark | the posix man pages probably.. |
| 03:29.28 | impulse6 | always |
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| 03:30.11 | abrotman | apt-file search man/open.3.gz returns zilch |
| 03:30.55 | impulse6 | I thought that existed for sure |
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| 03:31.34 | cheal | impulse6: yes |
| 03:31.45 | abrotman | cheal: which package ? |
| 03:32.11 | hark | impulse6: you need manpages-posix-dev |
| 03:32.13 | cheal | abrotman: perl-doc |
| 03:32.24 | abrotman | so apt-file returns nothing for fun ? |
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| 03:32.48 | abrotman | doh! |
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| 03:33.03 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 03:33.07 | cheal | abrotman: did "apt-file update" help? :) |
| 03:33.10 | abrotman | !find man3/open |
| 03:33.21 | abrotman | cheal: that's not it .. it's open.3posix.gz .. not open.3.gz |
| 03:33.24 | cheal | oh, yeah, open.3perl.gz |
| 03:33.25 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'man3/open' returned no results. |
| 03:33.30 | abrotman | dpkg: die |
| 03:33.30 | dpkg | I'll murder you abrotman! Decapitate you and play snooker with your eyes! |
| 03:33.32 | cheal | or posix, I guess |
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| 03:33.41 | abrotman | manpages-posix-dev: usr/share/man/man3/open.3posix.gz |
| 03:33.53 | chona | how can i debug a C source code |
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| 03:34.07 | abrotman | stupid posix man pages! |
| 03:34.08 | cheal | that's interesting, I've never seen two manpages with the same name in the same section |
| 03:34.08 | Fire | hey guys |
| 03:34.20 | cheal | chona: use a C debugger? |
| 03:34.22 | Fire | Could somebody explain me why the installation got complicated? lol |
| 03:34.30 | abrotman | complicated ? |
| 03:34.38 | chona | how?what shal i type in the terminal |
| 03:34.38 | cheal | Fire: that's not really clear |
| 03:34.51 | Fire | I tried to install Debian.. Firstly, there was no graphical interface for the choice of the software packets |
| 03:34.57 | cheal | chona: it depends, but you can try gdb |
| 03:35.03 | beau | I can not get my display tp 1024x768 |
| 03:35.07 | abrotman | !ig |
| 03:35.08 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html for x86 Etch/Tesing (all ARCHs and in various formats for Etch listed here http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ) , or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Sarge/Stable (3.1,3.1r4). |
| 03:35.16 | Fire | Secondly, it didn't check all the CDs i burned for the install |
| 03:35.54 | Fire | Thirdly, when I choose "Manualy choice packets", I couldn't, it installed and unpacked all automaticly. |
| 03:36.19 | beau | can someone help me fix my display iisue? |
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| 03:36.55 | justin | Fire: how many cds did you waste? I hope you didn't burn them all |
| 03:37.34 | Fire | 6 |
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| 03:37.56 | Fire | Oh btw it didn't even detect my wlan |
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| 03:38.11 | Fire | That's strange.. I never had such problems before when I installed Woody |
| 03:38.41 | maddash | ouch. 6 cd's? |
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| 03:38.53 | impulse6 | so there is no man page for the open defined in fcntl.h |
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| 03:39.08 | justin | Fire: did you have a wlan card when you installed woody? |
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| 03:40.15 | Fire | of course, justin |
| 03:40.19 | Fire | maddash: Yes. |
| 03:40.40 | abrotman | you had wireless in 2002 ? |
| 03:43.09 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:43.09 | dpkg | well, qotd133 is <Atula> I was wondering if someone can tell me how to write the fstab for the tape drive |
| 03:44.26 | Fire | abrot: yes |
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| 03:45.31 | Fire | Whatever - I don't get it - Why didn't the software choice work? |
| 03:46.02 | abrotman | so run tasksel again |
| 03:47.46 | Fire | I dont even have X :( |
| 03:47.57 | impulse6 | oh, open is a system call, man 2 open |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | i said that! |
| 03:48.14 | abrotman | Fire: tasksel isn't an X program |
| 03:48.29 | Supaplex | [ bang head here ] |
| 03:48.36 | abrotman | OW OW OW |
| 03:48.42 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 03:48.53 | impulse6 | gee |
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| 03:49.46 | cheal | what does tune2fs's "Last write time" mean? |
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| 03:50.31 | abrotman | man page doesn't say ? |
| 03:51.10 | cheal | abrotman: man page doesn't match "write time". I didn't see anything with a quick scan for "time" |
| 03:51.43 | beau | can someone help me get my display to 1024x768? |
| 03:51.47 | abrotman | where'd you see it ? |
| 03:52.07 | Supaplex | maybe tune2fs -l |
| 03:52.09 | cheal | abrotman: # tune2fs -l foo|grep 'mount time'; ? |
| 03:53.15 | Supaplex | tune2fs: Error: /dev/null was never mounted. |
| 03:53.17 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 03:53.22 | abrotman | cheal: i'd guess the last time written to the superblock ? |
| 03:53.40 | Supaplex | it's the last time that field was updated. |
| 03:53.43 | abrotman | though .. my time doens't match |
| 03:53.54 | abrotman | my laptop wasn't even on at that time :) |
| 03:54.12 | cheal | abrotman: really? mine are identical to my mount times |
| 03:54.28 | abrotman | cheal: so is mine .. but my laptop still wasn't on then :) |
| 03:54.35 | cheal | abrotman: heh |
| 03:54.37 | Fire | abro: I know it isnt |
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| 03:54.41 | Fire | whatever.. |
| 03:54.42 | Fire | :( |
| 03:54.45 | abrotman | !ig |
| 03:54.45 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html for x86 Etch/Tesing (all ARCHs and in various formats for Etch listed here http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ) , or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Sarge/Stable (3.1,3.1r4). |
| 03:55.02 | cheal | abrotman: hum...I'm afraid you may be experiencing the same bug as me then |
| 03:55.04 | beau | comsa ; I tried that it doesnt seem to let me choose 1024x768 |
| 03:55.09 | abrotman | cheal: bug ? |
| 03:55.37 | cheal | abrotman: assuming you're in EST, does adding 5 hours to the time make sense? |
| 03:55.45 | Supaplex | mine matches last mount time |
| 03:56.02 | Supaplex | it makes big bucks if it affects payroll |
| 03:56.06 | abrotman | cheal: i suppose it does .. but that still doesn't make sense |
| 03:56.07 | Supaplex | but no sense |
| 03:56.28 | abrotman | cheal: if it were a UTC time .. it'd be more like 2330 instead of 1330 |
| 03:57.01 | cheal | abrotman: oops, I meant substract |
| 03:57.09 | beau | comsa : what key do i use to "mark" the selection? |
| 03:57.10 | cheal | no wait, add |
| 03:57.31 | abrotman | cheal: Last write time: Fri Feb 23 13:36:43 2007 |
| 03:57.43 | abrotman | cheal: i was at work at 1330 .. but i was home at 1830 |
| 03:58.00 | abrotman | EST anyways |
| 03:58.06 | cheal | abrotman: but it was actually mounted at 19:36? |
| 03:58.30 | abrotman | probably more like 1830 |
| 03:58.42 | cheal | oh, yeah, 18:36 |
| 03:58.56 | abrotman | no more poutine for you |
| 03:58.57 | cheal | abrotman: that's the same bug as me |
| 03:59.02 | abrotman | it's a bug ? |
| 03:59.15 | cheal | abrotman: the poutine stand was closing when I got the idea to go buy one today :) |
| 03:59.19 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:59.37 | abrotman | just because my laptop wasn't on .. doesn't mean it couldn't have written .. erm .. nevermind |
| 03:59.48 | beau | comsa : why is it telling me this when i run the command? "DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process" |
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| 04:00.15 | cheal | abrotman: well does it look right to you that your filesystem was mounted while your laptop was off? |
| 04:00.27 | cheal | abrotman: hehe :) |
| 04:00.44 | abrotman | that's unpossible! |
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| 04:01.03 | abrotman | cheal: i also got an fsck while it was off! |
| 04:01.07 | abrotman | my laptop rules! |
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| 04:02.38 | Supaplex | talk about preemptive |
| 04:02.54 | cheal | hehe |
| 04:03.15 | abrotman | it is an IBM ... |
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| 04:03.20 | abrotman | they make some *good* stuff |
| 04:03.24 | cheal | abrotman: hehehe :) |
| 04:03.45 | cheal | abrotman: so except for that timezone issue, what should the "last time written to the superblock " be? |
| 04:03.57 | abrotman | i would geuss it should be in my local time |
| 04:04.02 | abrotman | or UTC |
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| 04:04.12 | cheal | abrotman: yeah |
| 04:04.13 | abrotman | so it should either be 1830 or 2330 |
| 04:04.19 | abrotman | !date |
| 04:04.20 | dpkg | The current date is 2007.02.24 4:04:19 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 04:04.25 | abrotman | yeah ... 2330 |
| 04:04.31 | abrotman | stupid DST ... |
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| 04:05.22 | cheal | abrotman: but except for that timezone issue, I'm still trying to figure out what "Last write time" represents |
| 04:05.35 | abrotman | i think the last time the superblock was written to |
| 04:05.46 | abrotman | read the source for tune2fs ? |
| 04:06.11 | cheal | abrotman: yeah but what should that time be? |
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| 04:06.27 | cheal | I mean when should that superblock be written? |
| 04:06.33 | abrotman | cheal: i'm happy my laptop is doing work when it's off! |
| 04:06.37 | Cholito | from time to time (random) I get disconnected from the irc servers. The weird thing is that it only happens when using debian (using etch now) |
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| 04:07.08 | Cholito | without a message |
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| 04:07.34 | dr1v3r | guys i have installed mysql but when i try to start it it does not start. There is no errors on screen and no errors in the mysql.log. |
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| 04:07.48 | dr1v3r | when i type mysql i get this error Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' |
| 04:07.52 | Cholito | there you go |
| 04:07.56 | Cholito | again |
| 04:07.59 | dr1v3r | i know its because it is not running, how can i fix this? |
| 04:08.28 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.28 | Cholito | I can't think on any logical reason for this, so I was hoping any of you can help me with this |
| 04:08.28 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:08.35 | abrotman | yu'd htink someone would have noticed by now :) |
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| 04:08.58 | cheal | abrotman: are you sure you're not running Gentoo on that box? |
| 04:09.01 | smacnay | how does one build from source if .bootstrap is in the build dir rather than configure? |
| 04:09.13 | cheal | because #gentoo is that way ---> |
| 04:09.20 | Cholito | LOL |
| 04:09.35 | abrotman | cheal: so sue me ..i got the source ... |
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| 04:10.04 | cheal | abrotman: heh, indeed |
| 04:10.08 | Cholito | anyway...does any1 has an idea about that? |
| 04:10.23 | beau | comsa : should I choose hz? |
| 04:10.26 | cheal | "Connection reset by peer" |
| 04:10.35 | beau | 60 |
| 04:10.38 | beau | hz |
| 04:10.41 | Cholito | the error message is this: Connection reset by peer |
| 04:10.56 | cheal | Cholito: so it's not associated to a dropping Internet connection? |
| 04:10.56 | abrotman | cheal: do you really want me to find it ? |
| 04:11.17 | cheal | abrotman: sorry, find what? |
| 04:11.31 | dr1v3r | anyone? |
| 04:11.37 | abrotman | it calls some funtion called list_super |
| 04:11.53 | Cholito | cheal, it only happens in Linux, not in windows |
| 04:11.56 | cheal | abrotman: you're volunteering to read the e2fsprogs source? :) |
| 04:12.29 | cheal | Cholito: it may be that your Internet connection only drops in Linux, not in windows? |
| 04:12.43 | cheal | abrotman: list_super...that's a great start |
| 04:12.48 | Cholito | chwhat do you mean? |
| 04:12.54 | Cholito | cheal, what do you mean? |
| 04:13.25 | abrotman | cheal: i already am |
| 04:13.46 | abrotman | tm = sb->s_wtime; |
| 04:13.46 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.07 | abrotman | cheal: __u32 s_wtime; /* Write time */ |
| 04:15.17 | comsa | opps |
| 04:15.18 | cheal | Cholito: I mean that if what happens with regard to your IRC connection is different in Linux and Windows, what happens with regard to your Internet connection may also vary |
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| 04:15.21 | xtknight | how do you see a list of packages available from a certain repository? For example how do i check if janvitus carries wine, for example? (via debian pkg system, besides going to jan's website) |
| 04:15.32 | abrotman | cheal: which is assuming i found the right thing |
| 04:15.42 | abrotman | xtknight: cat the Packages file |
| 04:15.50 | cheal | Cholito: did you Google for "Connection reset by peer"? |
| 04:16.14 | Cholito | uhmmm, yes? |
| 04:16.17 | cheal | abrotman: yeah. I would be more interested in what kind of operations are supposed to *modify* that time |
| 04:16.20 | Cholito | doing it now |
| 04:16.23 | xtknight | abrotman: where would it be located |
| 04:16.31 | abrotman | /var/cache/apt/ .. i think |
| 04:16.46 | cheal | abrotman: note that I'm reading Wikipedia about ext2 |
| 04:17.06 | abrotman | lame! |
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| 04:18.31 | xtknight | um /var/chroot/var/lib/apt/lists/ contains stuff for ubuntu but i dont see any entries for deb http://janvitus.cabspace.com/ubuntu/ edgy-janvitus main-amd64 |
| 04:18.49 | abrotman | cheal: well .. i did an fsck when it turned on .. but it seems like whenever the superblock gets modified ... it changes that time |
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| 04:19.14 | beau | comsa : it worked thank you |
| 04:19.26 | comsa | no probs |
| 04:20.26 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, you are knowledgable and probably can help me. I am writing a script that needs to logout as user and login as root because the script stops upon exit for the su. And I do not know how to use login and password in a script. Can you steer me as to how to script a login and password? |
| 04:20.52 | abrotman | cheal: fs->super->s_wtime = fs->now ? fs->now : time(NULL); |
| 04:20.54 | abrotman | :) |
| 04:21.10 | xtknight | hm anyone know where Packages is stored for third party repos? |
| 04:21.21 | Red_Cloud | I took a shot at it as it went overhead but i think that I missed. |
| 04:21.24 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: is your script going to run as root ? |
| 04:21.37 | xtknight | sorry i just wasn't looking in the right place. it's at /var/lib/apt/lists/janvitus.cabspace.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-janvitus_main-amd64_binary-amd64_Packages |
| 04:21.50 | abrotman | xtknight: i was close .. sorry :) |
| 04:22.07 | xtknight | abrotman: lol it's not there either |
| 04:22.12 | Red_Cloud | What I would like to do is "configure" and "make" as user and "make install" as root. |
| 04:22.17 | abrotman | i've been up too long .. and cheal has me reading C! |
| 04:22.20 | xtknight | abrotman: wait a minute, yes it is. |
| 04:22.27 | xtknight | thanks ;) |
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| 04:22.40 | xtknight | i assume there's not a more elegant way of doing this? |
| 04:22.40 | cheal | it's not my fault! |
| 04:22.52 | abrotman | cheal: that's all i can find other than a lot of getting of the value |
| 04:23.08 | xtknight | arg how do i grep a word with spaces |
| 04:23.18 | abrotman | ext2ed/super_com.c: wmove (show_pad,12,40);wprintw (show_pad,"%s",ctime ((time_t *) &type_data.u.t_ext2_super_block.s_wtime)); |
| 04:23.23 | cheal | abrotman: but when is that run? I don't understand when the superblock gets modified |
| 04:23.24 | abrotman | and that .. but i have NO idea what that does |
| 04:23.39 | abrotman | cheal: AFAICT .. when the superblock is changed |
| 04:23.44 | cheal | abrotman: heh |
| 04:23.55 | abrotman | or you mean .. when is the superblock changed ? |
| 04:25.03 | cheal | abrotman: ahah! |
| 04:25.09 | abrotman | OY! |
| 04:25.17 | cheal | # e2label /dev/hda9 /homy |
| 04:25.26 | cheal | Last write time: Fri Feb 23 23:25:04 2007 |
| 04:25.30 | abrotman | that writes to the superblock though |
| 04:25.35 | abrotman | and the time is still goofy |
| 04:25.45 | cheal | why goofy? |
| 04:26.03 | cheal | so it's just when some "property" of the filesystem changes |
| 04:26.06 | abrotman | cheal: Last write time: Fri Feb 23 13:36:43 2007 |
| 04:26.12 | abrotman | i was at work! |
| 04:26.37 | cheal | abrotman: oh, sure, yours still shows your poor loyalty to Debian |
| 04:26.54 | cheal | now I'll try to debug the timezone issue |
| 04:27.03 | abrotman | my laptop was almost 1337 |
| 04:27.44 | cheal | abrotman: well, it's an 13M, no? |
| 04:28.03 | abrotman | ? |
| 04:28.32 | cheal | abrotman: I used 3 -> B in that |
| 04:28.41 | abrotman | oh |
| 04:28.46 | abrotman | yeah |
| 04:28.59 | abrotman | time seems wrong .. but the idea makes sense |
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| 04:29.26 | cheal | abrotman: thanks for the help. you're authorized to sleep now |
| 04:29.32 | abrotman | thanks cap'n |
| 04:30.01 | markybob | oh c'mon. it's a friday night! |
| 04:30.13 | cheal | oh, is it? |
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| 04:30.47 | streuner_ | Who cares? :-) |
| 04:31.09 | cheal | who cares when there are still bugs, right |
| 04:31.14 | maddash | apt-get tastes like beef |
| 04:31.17 | pinx | markybob: Saturday night here !!! W00T !!!! |
| 04:31.48 | pinx | !beers for everyone |
| 04:32.02 | streuner_ | friday is like every single day in the week... |
| 04:33.01 | maddash | !beer everyone |
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| 04:36.16 | pinx | cheers maddash |
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| 04:37.19 | xerophyte | I compiled kernel 2.6.20 network card came back online all the suddent its down .. does anybody know why is that ? |
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| 04:42.14 | Kanabis | can anyone help me with proftpd? no matter what i change the port to in the conf it remains on port 21 |
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| 04:42.33 | markybob | Kanabis, ...did you restart it... ? |
| 04:42.45 | Kanabis | yea many times |
| 04:43.38 | markybob | Kanabis, i dont know proftpd well enough to help. i advice you to move to vsftpd, though. runs kernel.org, debian.org, suse.org, redhat.org, many many others. it's the best ftp daemon out there |
| 04:44.06 | enouf | <dpkg> I'll murder you abrotman! Decapitate you and play snooker with your eyes! <-- way cool bbydoll :-P |
| 04:44.16 | Kanabis | yea well thats another issue. i can seem to get apt-get to install it |
| 04:44.27 | hark | !aww |
| 04:44.27 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 04:44.38 | markybob | Kanabis, saying that kind thing doesnt help. listing the specific error that it gives would help |
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| 04:45.22 | Kanabis | apt-get goes thru the motions of installing it and then hangs after it tries to download it from the ftp |
| 04:45.45 | xerophyte | My kernel is recognize the Network card as eth1, how can i tell the kernel configure the network card as eth0 ? I have only one card |
| 04:46.04 | markybob | Kanabis, did you apt-get update? did you try a different mirror? can you access the ftp site outside of apt? |
| 04:46.21 | Kanabis | it seems goes thru the dependancies and says free bytes and i choose yes then it cant resolve the site |
| 04:46.33 | markybob | Kanabis, apt-setup. pick a different mirror |
| 04:46.38 | Kanabis | apt updates hangs and then says the same thing about cant resolve |
| 04:47.07 | Kanabis | i've changes sources.list and double check resolv |
| 04:48.22 | pinx | Kanabis: try pinging the mirrors if you're in doubt - at least you'll know if you can reach them and they're alive;-) |
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| 04:52.04 | VolVE | hey all, anyone know if it's possibly to add fields to a Munin report? I'm looking at network traffic and I want to add an aggregate "total bytes sent this month" stat... |
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| 04:59.04 | raf256 | krusader sucks huge cock |
| 04:59.30 | raf256 | what do you guys use as a GOOD, twin panel gui FTP client?! |
| 04:59.43 | lamer007 | gftp :) |
| 05:00.25 | lamer007 | hey guys, Im new into debian, wondering is there any minimal installation cd or do I have to download all those 14 images ? |
| 05:00.43 | hark | no, you can get the netinst |
| 05:00.52 | maddash | lamer007: "minimal install cd" = "netinstall cd" |
| 05:00.53 | raf256 | !bitchslap krusader |
| 05:00.58 | hark | !d-i lamer007 |
| 05:00.59 | dpkg | lamer007, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you've got hardware that the 3.1r3 installer doesn't support - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 05:01.10 | maddash | raf256: wget |
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| 05:02.56 | hark | lamer007: the second link in the factoid is for the etch installer |
| 05:03.38 | lamer007 | hark, ok, thanks, going to give it a chance in vmware |
| 05:03.59 | _joey | so when next stable release will come out? |
| 05:04.04 | _joey | another couple of years? |
| 05:04.09 | cheal | !tell _joey about wwer |
| 05:04.18 | hark | !when will etch be released |
| 05:04.18 | dpkg | Hold on, let me get some tarot cards... ok, etch should be out by your birthday. |
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| 05:07.04 | Guerin | !release date |
| 05:07.11 | Guerin | bah |
| 05:07.56 | cheal | "bah"? oh, so that wasn't intended? |
| 05:08.12 | hark | !etch release date |
| 05:08.13 | dpkg | For info on Etch release date see <wwer> |
| 05:08.21 | Guerin | cheal: don made a factoid last night, but it seems to have been expunged |
| 05:08.28 | hark | yeah.. |
| 05:08.37 | Guerin | it was less informative but more useful than all of those |
| 05:08.51 | enouf | !hurry |
| 05:08.51 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... You're a veritable "me!me!me! mine!mine!mine! now!now!now!now!" are you? ..how lovely |
| 05:09.00 | hark | !when will potato be done |
| 05:09.00 | dpkg | potato will be done when it's done. |
| 05:09.23 | enouf | nice cookin yoda |
| 05:09.25 | Guerin | !date of release |
| 05:09.25 | dpkg | The next release of debian will release on Mar 17, 2012. If you ask again, the date will change. Ask me about <siyh> <wir> |
| 05:09.29 | Guerin | there it is |
| 05:09.40 | pinx | !date of release |
| 05:09.40 | dpkg | The next release of debian will release on Jun 5, 2035. If you ask again, the date will change. Ask me about <siyh> <wir> |
| 05:09.40 | Guerin | now, enough bot malarkey |
| 05:09.46 | pinx | heh |
| 05:10.28 | enouf | but .. but .. I'm in a hurry .. and you owe me! .. |
| 05:10.46 | cheal | !beer enouf |
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| 05:10.51 | cheal | !pal Guerin |
| 05:11.19 | enouf | dpkg: danke |
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| 05:12.20 | pinx | !bitte |
| 05:12.55 | hark | !say bitte, enouf |
| 05:12.55 | dpkg | bitte, enouf |
| 05:13.12 | pinx | :) |
| 05:13.20 | hark | !qotd0 |
| 05:13.21 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
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| 05:16.15 | enouf | heh .. gracias mi amigos .. sleepytime now .. *snores |
| 05:16.28 | n3kl | What do I need the avahi-daemon for? |
| 05:16.57 | pinx | buenos noche enouf |
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| 05:19.20 | hark | n3kl: apt-cache show avahi-daemon ? |
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| 05:24.57 | DavidProck1981 | is a NVIDIA® GeForce™ MX 4000. good for games on linux |
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| 05:25.27 | DavidProck1981 | hello |
| 05:28.05 | cheal | DavidProck1981: it's probably the same [relative] performance as on other OSes, and the same usability as other NVIDIA cards |
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| 05:28.23 | hark | depends on the game probably |
| 05:28.56 | hark | but it is a low level card.. try #hardware maybe ? |
| 05:29.23 | DavidProck1981 | the main game I play is sauerbraten |
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| 05:31.14 | DavidProck1981 | at one point I was thinking about getting the GeForce 8800 GTX, any one know if it will fully work on linux |
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| 05:31.56 | hark | if your game requires pixel shaders or something, it won't do |
| 05:32.12 | cheal | DavidProck1981: Debian doesn't support that one except using experimental |
| 05:33.08 | cheal | DavidProck1981: otherwise, ask #nvidia |
| 05:33.13 | madd_matt | DavidProck1981, it'll work, but you'll have to use the experimental drivers. To be honest they work pretty good, so I wouldn't be too concerned. If you are, you could go for a 7 series -- They're fully supported |
| 05:33.26 | SerajewelKS | why is debian's icecast2 not ipv6-enabled? |
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| 05:34.09 | madd_matt | DavidProck1981, the 8 series need a large portion of new code from what i gather from the nvidia site, so the drivers aren't quite as mature. |
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| 05:34.48 | DavidProck1981 | what is the BEST video card made by nvidia that is fully supported |
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| 05:35.08 | DavidProck1981 | not looking at price |
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| 05:36.55 | DavidProck1981 | or what is the latest of the 7 series |
| 05:37.32 | hark | DavidProck1981: try #hardware or #nvidia |
| 05:38.21 | hark | google even.. |
| 05:38.22 | madd_matt | DavidProck1981, The nvidia 8800 GTX is probably your best bet. Its pretty awesome, and the drivers are stable enough for everyday use. I'd go for it. Personally I think its too expensive, but I don't need any better. |
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| 05:39.27 | DavidProck1981 | I was thinking about getting the water cooled edition of the nvidia 8800 GTX |
| 05:39.58 | madd_matt | DavidProck1981, i'd suggest joining #hardware, there is an ongoing discussion about that card. |
| 05:40.30 | hark | it's a far cry from your original mx card.. |
| 05:41.02 | DavidProck1981 | what do you mean by that hark |
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| 05:42.11 | hark | er, i meant there is a huge difference between them |
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| 05:43.26 | DavidProck1981 | I am thinking with the nvidia 8800 GTX, that I will not need another card for the fest of my life |
| 05:43.35 | DavidProck1981 | rest* |
| 05:43.52 | DavidProck1981 | and im hopeing to live past 100 |
| 05:43.54 | HymnToLife | you thik that and two months later they release something better |
| 05:43.55 | DavidProck1981 | lol |
| 05:44.02 | HymnToLife | and you think "omg I gotta get it" |
| 05:44.08 | hark | go for a 7 series, save some money. |
| 05:44.09 | bradel | with ssh, i can shutdown a system remotely. how can i then reboot the system remotely, if at all? |
| 05:44.23 | DavidProck1981 | im buying for the long run |
| 05:44.25 | markybob | bradel, with ssh. shutdown -r now |
| 05:44.29 | HymnToLife | bradel, obviously, it the system is down, you can't do anything with it |
| 05:45.06 | bradel | HymnToLife: you get what i am talking about. so, no way? |
| 05:45.08 | HymnToLife | you can reboot it of course but if it is shut down, you can't power it on remotely |
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| 05:45.52 | cheal | DavidProck1981: I have the best NVIDIA video card from 5 years ago in this machine, and NVIDIA doesn't even support it with their current drivers anymore |
| 05:47.07 | cheal | DavidProck1981: so I hope you're not serious, or that you're past 95 already |
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| 05:47.08 | DavidProck1981 | lol |
| 05:47.08 | cheal | or at least 90 |
| 05:47.08 | bradel | HymnToLife: it is not complete shutdown in the sense that the main power is still on. no way to send a signal to activate the PSU? |
| 05:47.08 | markybob | bradel, http://gsd.di.uminho.pt/jpo/software/wakeonlan/mini-howto/wol-mini-howto-3.html |
| 05:47.08 | markybob | wake-on-lan |
| 05:47.08 | hark | who knows, by then maybe the nv drivers might get 3d.. ;) |
| 05:47.14 | DavidProck1981 | ok then what is the best of the 7 serise |
| 05:47.24 | bradel | markybob: thks, will look that up. |
| 05:47.26 | chronographer | hi all i have installed mpd and use gmpc currently, but i want to try sonata.. there are dependency problems, ie. it wants newer versions of come things than what i got. This must mean i shoul get them from unstable, should i do this? |
| 05:47.32 | HymnToLife | oh yeah, forgot about the wake-on-lan |
| 05:48.04 | chronographer | libc6 (>= 2.4-1) libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3) |
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| 05:49.18 | SerajewelKS | is there a reason that debian's icecast2 doesn't support listening on ipv6 addresses? |
| 05:49.26 | cheal | hark: hehe. or maybe the nouveau driver will be in Debian |
| 05:49.32 | kelsin | chronographer: are you running stable? I'm on testing and sonata installed fine (and is GREAT) |
| 05:49.39 | chronographer | etch |
| 05:49.41 | hark | chronographer: that libc6 is in experimental iirc, but i wouldn't want to risk it for that.. |
| 05:50.01 | chronographer | oh really? I am updated , fresh install of testing, sonata wont install! |
| 05:50.08 | hark | !info sonata etch |
| 05:50.09 | chronographer | maybe i will get an old sonata? |
| 05:50.10 | kelsin | wierd..., my install from last week did :-( |
| 05:50.25 | hark | !info sonata sid |
| 05:50.30 | kelsin | I have 1.0-1 right now |
| 05:50.36 | ACU01 | Right now I am installing Debian Etch daily - using GUI - it is just BEAUTIFULL! Thank you guys - the graphic is elegant and everything is just an enjoying experience THANKS to all who contributed |
| 05:50.37 | dpkg | sonata: (GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 576 kB |
| 05:50.42 | chronographer | thats the package i dled |
| 05:50.54 | hark | chronographer: do a backport.. |
| 05:51.00 | chronographer | how to do that? |
| 05:51.22 | chronographer | i shouldnt need to if others with etch are running 1.0-1 |
| 05:51.39 | hark | !why is sonata not in testing |
| 05:51.39 | dpkg | sonata is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=sonata |
| 05:51.50 | SerajewelKS | chronographer: pull in the sid package |
| 05:51.53 | hark | !tell chronographer about simple sid backport |
| 05:52.00 | bradel | markybob: quite a number of programs on that page. have you personally used wake-on-lan? |
| 05:52.04 | SerajewelKS | hark: you don't need to backport into etch, only sarge |
| 05:52.12 | hark | it may even install cleanly for that matter.. |
| 05:52.12 | SerajewelKS | hark: most of the time anyway |
| 05:52.17 | chronographer | ok so ge ta sid package? |
| 05:52.34 | hark | !depends sonata sid |
| 05:52.35 | SerajewelKS | chronographer: i'd try that first |
| 05:52.41 | dpkg | sonata: depends on libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.8), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxfixes3 (>= 1:4.0.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, python-central (>= 0.5.8), python (<< 2.5), python (>= 2.4), python-gtk2, python-dbus |
| 05:52.56 | SerajewelKS | chronographer: or use gmpc, another mpd client |
| 05:53.10 | chronographer | mine says libgtk 2.10.3 |
| 05:53.20 | kelsin | SerajewelKS: sonata is worth it in my mind :) but I'm a sucker for album art and notifications when songs change |
| 05:53.29 | chronographer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.29 | chronographer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.29 | chronographer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.29 | chronographer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.29 | chronographer | sonata depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3); however |
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| 05:53.33 | SerajewelKS | kelsin: gmpc gives notifications |
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| 05:53.52 | bradel | HymnToLife: markybob is gone. have you used wake-on-lan before? |
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| 05:54.10 | Guerin | i have an abiding hate for all fucking music players which want to micromanage my choons |
| 05:54.12 | chronographer | sorry! |
| 05:54.16 | chronographer | got booted |
| 05:54.21 | Guerin | just give me something which reads files from a filesystem |
| 05:54.31 | Guerin | chronographer: because you pasted |
| 05:54.32 | Guerin | don't |
| 05:54.39 | chronographer | yeah i know |
| 05:54.56 | kelsin | SerajewelKS: yeah I take that back, gmpc seems to have been updated a lot since I last looked at it :) |
| 05:55.04 | chronographer | sonata is one of those th right guerin? |
| 05:55.12 | kelsin | installing it now :) |
| 05:55.17 | Guerin | chronographer: no, sonata is overfeatured bloatware |
| 05:55.30 | Guerin | but at least it has a nice name, unlike quotlibet and others |
| 05:55.33 | chronographer | gmpc is fine but i liked how sonata has a little toolbar icon ( i think i remember right?) |
| 05:55.43 | kelsin | yes it does |
| 05:55.46 | kelsin | and can minimize on close to it |
| 05:55.51 | chronographer | ok you play music from comand line right =) |
| 05:56.07 | chronographer | yes very nice... i want it. |
| 05:56.50 | chronographer | so i will try the backport option i guess. Thanks for your help |
| 05:57.33 | hark | chronographer: according to the depends, you can try installing it directly from sid.. |
| 05:58.24 | chronographer | so add a bed http://ftp...debian sid main contrib non-free to sources? |
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| 05:58.40 | chronographer | *deb |
| 05:59.02 | kelsin | In the debian FAQ there was a part that mentioned how to run a "mixed" system by giving priority to say testing, while installing some unstable packages, working well for me now (using the unstable wine) |
| 05:59.32 | chronographer | i will just install sonata then comment it out until a later date? |
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| 06:00.25 | chronographer | the package is called simply 'sonata' ?? |
| 06:00.31 | kelsin | yes |
| 06:00.40 | quintin | what's a good cms / erp / crm blah blah? |
| 06:00.51 | HymnToLife | bradel, nope sorry, never used it myself |
| 06:00.53 | SerajewelKS | quintin: vim |
| 06:01.00 | bradel | k |
| 06:01.09 | stoned | http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/index.php?style=print |
| 06:01.13 | stoned | http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/index.php?style=default |
| 06:01.20 | quintin | SerajewelKS: I don't think you know what those tla are to be standing for. |
| 06:01.34 | stoned | oh |
| 06:01.36 | stoned | fuck wrong channel |
| 06:01.41 | stoned | I meant this for ##php |
| 06:01.49 | quintin | stoned: 'under construction'? "Welcome to 1996!" |
| 06:01.58 | chronographer | stoned again |
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| 06:03.13 | chronographer | INFO: using old version '/usr/bin/python2.3' |
| 06:03.16 | chronographer | is this a problem? |
| 06:03.33 | quintin | stoned: it looks like you are using windows vista background on your site? haha |
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| 06:03.49 | stoned | quintin: yeah |
| 06:03.51 | stoned | I love it |
| 06:03.54 | stoned | and parts of it |
| 06:03.56 | stoned | not the whole thing |
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| 06:13.51 | DavidProck1981 | well it looks like even for a simple video card, im going to have to go mother board shopping |
| 06:14.04 | DavidProck1981 | I knew I would if I want the 8800 |
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| 06:14.12 | litage | i've just installed networkmanager and it has chosen some network settings for the wired network it's connected to. however, the settings are completely wrong. what should i do? |
| 06:14.40 | quintin | !reinstall |
| 06:14.41 | dpkg | methinks reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install |
| 06:14.49 | DavidProck1981 | but I don't have a PCI-Express port |
| 06:14.59 | quintin | DavidProck1981: loser! |
| 06:15.02 | DavidProck1981 | and that is what im mostly seeing |
| 06:15.16 | quintin | I'll sell you an 8x agp card, cheap :) |
| 06:15.30 | DavidProck1981 | what kind |
| 06:15.36 | quintin | gf4 ti4200 |
| 06:15.40 | liable | litage: doesnt it have fields where you can change it?? |
| 06:15.56 | litage | liable: not that i can see... |
| 06:15.56 | DavidProck1981 | what is it's specs |
| 06:16.20 | liable | litage: meh, some kind of manager |
| 06:16.36 | quintin | 128m ram |
| 06:16.41 | quintin | it draws stuff |
| 06:16.47 | quintin | polygons ^-) |
| 06:17.20 | quintin | can't use it in my new box, no agp slot. my integrated intel is good for most stuff though. |
| 06:17.23 | scv | did the salesman say ti4200 was the god at 2000 as 8800 in the time? |
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| 06:18.05 | DavidProck1981 | can you give sight that shows the full specs on it |
| 06:18.22 | DavidProck1981 | how much are you wanting to sell it for |
| 06:19.09 | quintin | whatever it's worth on ebay... $50 maybe? |
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| 06:19.24 | pstickne | site |
| 06:19.25 | Guerin | is a gf4 seriously still worth US$50? |
| 06:19.31 | pstickne | no |
| 06:19.45 | parsonsd | ti4200 was quite nice |
| 06:19.47 | Guerin | personally, I wouldn't pay that for ANY video card, but ... |
| 06:19.50 | scv | i am curious, how many glxgears fps is a ti4200 in linux? |
| 06:19.50 | pstickne | but for $50? |
| 06:20.01 | pstickne | err, $50 -these days- |
| 06:20.20 | SubStack | $5 is a good price |
| 06:20.26 | scv | ha ha |
| 06:20.33 | parsonsd | enh i still want to get into opengl programming more. not that it'll happen any time soon,,,, |
| 06:20.45 | scv | a $5 god-like graphic card? |
| 06:21.33 | scv | i wish i got a $5 8800 |
| 06:21.47 | quintin | scv: 12k |
| 06:21.53 | scv | O.O |
| 06:21.54 | parsonsd | what are the the instructions for the debian-provided ati drivers for the ati radion 7000? |
| 06:22.31 | quintin | shrug. whatever it is going for on ebay.. |
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| 06:23.45 | quintin | scv: glxgears is not a benchmark. :\ |
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| 06:24.00 | scv | ebay rescues the poor |
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| 06:24.11 | parsonsd | heh. ebay rescues me |
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| 06:24.23 | scv | quintin, i know, but it's still interesting |
| 06:24.30 | no-remorse | grrr |
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| 06:25.10 | no-remorse | can someone point in a direction on how to "apt" from a remote machine? |
| 06:25.33 | scv | is ti4200 at agp8x? or 4x? |
| 06:25.35 | Guerin | no-remorse: explain |
| 06:25.45 | solid_liq | scv: 8x |
| 06:25.45 | parsonsd | 4x, i think |
| 06:25.54 | solid_liq | scv: I have one in my old p4 |
| 06:26.07 | parsonsd | dang, an old p4. |
| 06:26.08 | no-remorse | ok i am trying to apt from one of my machines to another through an ssh con |
| 06:26.11 | scv | iirc, it should be 3.3v, 4x |
| 06:26.11 | solid_liq | scv: it's not bad, but don't even think you'll be able to use xgl/compiz with it, you won't |
| 06:26.41 | scv | O.O |
| 06:26.44 | solid_liq | scv: mine is 8x agp |
| 06:27.05 | quintin | this one is 8x |
| 06:27.30 | quintin | solid_liq: uh, wtf? it will run compiz and beryl |
| 06:27.39 | solid_liq | I choose it because I wanted an 8x card instead of a 4x |
| 06:27.43 | scv | ti4200 is better than fx5200 in the dx8 |
| 06:27.55 | solid_liq | quintin: er, no, not really, I've tried, and it's so slooow it's unusable |
| 06:28.07 | quintin | solid_liq: user error. ;) |
| 06:28.14 | solid_liq | hehe |
| 06:28.38 | solid_liq | same config works great on newer hardware |
| 06:28.50 | madd_matt | I've used beryl on an MX440 |
| 06:28.57 | quintin | it runs fine for me on an old gf4 mx440 dualhead 64m |
| 06:29.03 | quintin | I'm sure it will go on a 128m card :P |
| 06:29.12 | quintin | that's a newer chipset |
| 06:29.35 | solid_liq | hrm |
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| 06:29.50 | quintin | madd_matt: me too. first machine I used it on, actually. piii 1ghz, 512m ram ,64m nv video |
| 06:30.06 | solid_liq | I need to get a new PCI-E nvidia card... this ati card suxxors |
| 06:30.10 | scv | a 128MB graphic card is obsolete now |
| 06:30.22 | solid_liq | yep |
| 06:30.27 | quintin | pfft |
| 06:30.30 | solid_liq | 256MB min, 512MB more common |
| 06:30.34 | quintin | 128m is incredible powah to me |
| 06:30.53 | quintin | 512m? fucking ridiculous |
| 06:31.00 | quintin | my first 3d board had 512 *k* |
| 06:31.06 | scv | i wish i had a 512-Bit/512MB GDDR3 graphic card |
| 06:31.30 | quintin | before that, we didn't even had 3d accellaration! we had 2d accellaration. and we liked it! |
| 06:31.36 | quintin | and we were *thankful* |
| 06:31.44 | scv | maybe i could get one at 2012 |
| 06:31.49 | solid_liq | yeah, well, my first actual video card was a Hercules monochrome card |
| 06:31.58 | parsonsd | i just write to display buffer |
| 06:32.00 | scv | O.O |
| 06:32.16 | solid_liq | before that, I used lcd displays |
| 06:32.16 | solid_liq | I still want the newer better stuff ;) |
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| 06:33.03 | scv | can a hercules card be used on the lcd? |
| 06:33.18 | solid_liq | scv: nope |
| 06:33.25 | scv | oh |
| 06:33.31 | solid_liq | you need a hi-ris mono monitor ;) |
| 06:33.32 | no-remorse | ok i am be editing /etc/apt/sources.list wrong |
| 06:33.56 | solid_liq | although it may work with something a little newer, not sure, but it'd have to have backwards compatibility for it |
| 06:34.46 | no-remorse | anyone here real familiar with editing apt/sources.list? |
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| 06:35.28 | HymnToLife | no-remorse, just ask your question |
| 06:35.49 | no-remorse | How do i apt from one machine to another? |
| 06:36.05 | HymnToLife | apt-proxy is your friend |
| 06:36.14 | Guerin | no-remorse: you mean get all the packages on machine foo and install them on machine bar? |
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| 06:36.26 | Guerin | !wayttd no-remorse |
| 06:36.26 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, no-remorse? |
| 06:36.42 | HymnToLife | yep, more details wouldbe nice |
| 06:36.46 | no-remorse | sorta ... i actually only want to install two specific packages |
| 06:36.55 | no-remorse | hey dpkg |
| 06:36.55 | HymnToLife | two packages ? |
| 06:37.04 | HymnToLife | get the DEBs and dpkg -i |
| 06:37.11 | no-remorse | trying to install cluster-tools-client and -server |
| 06:37.11 | HymnToLife | !dpkg |
| 06:37.12 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, there a reason you dont talk to me |
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| 06:37.41 | no-remorse | yes HYmn |
| 06:37.42 | no-remorse | brb |
| 06:37.51 | HymnToLife | !stupid bot |
| 06:37.51 | dpkg | no, stupid hymntolife |
| 06:38.50 | no-remorse | back |
| 06:38.57 | HymnToLife | so |
| 06:39.02 | HymnToLife | if it's just two packages |
| 06:39.21 | HymnToLife | I guess you can just copy the DEBs and install them manually |
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| 06:39.25 | HymnToLife | no need to use apt |
| 06:39.32 | no-remorse | ok |
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| 06:41.14 | Guerin | no-remorse: a better idea is to use apt-move,m which preserves the dep tree |
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| 06:45.14 | no-remorse | apt-move ... ok |
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| 06:49.37 | liable | ah the memories, if i could remember them :) |
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| 06:50.03 | Gokee2 | Hello all, my xserver will not work with the nvidia driver, I followed the website like always using ma and everything looks great exept that X will not start when using the nvidia driver. If I switch back to nv it starts just fine. Can someone tell me what wrong? Thanks (xorg log coming in soon) |
| 06:50.32 | valdyn | Gokee2: hardware ( gfx card ) too please |
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| 06:51.22 | Gokee2 | Its a Gfource go 5200 |
| 06:51.33 | Gokee2 | Gforce* |
| 06:51.40 | liable | !say ouch! |
| 06:51.41 | dpkg | ouch! |
| 06:51.46 | Gokee2 | fx |
| 06:51.53 | valdyn | Gokee2: dpkg -l nvidia-glx | tail -1 |
| 06:52.19 | Gokee2 | rc nvidia-glx 1.0.8776-4 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver |
| 06:52.27 | valdyn | Gokee2: install that |
| 06:53.01 | parsonsd | i just picked up a bunch of updated etch packages and have started wondering why my recently restarted machine now looks for an if called sit0. |
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| 06:53.10 | Gokee2 | nvidia-glx? |
| 06:53.13 | Gokee2 | I have it? |
| 06:53.15 | valdyn | Gokee2: yes |
| 06:53.18 | valdyn | Gokee2: no you don't |
| 06:53.33 | valdyn | Gokee2: 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' |
| 06:53.39 | Gokee2 | What the! |
| 06:53.41 | liable | parsonsd: its ipv6 related, shouldnt be new, google it |
| 06:53.48 | Gokee2 | I was SURE I installed that |
| 06:54.17 | Gokee2 | Ok I feel like a idiot now :0 |
| 06:54.19 | Gokee2 | Thanks :) |
| 06:54.20 | fatpelt | is the only way to get etch to upgrade from sarge? (are there install iso's for it ?) |
| 06:54.27 | Gokee2 | It starts great now |
| 06:54.37 | liable | !d-i fatpelt |
| 06:54.38 | dpkg | fatpelt, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you've got hardware that the 3.1r3 installer doesn't support - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 06:55.03 | valdyn | parsonsd: just ignore it if you don't use ipv6 |
| 06:55.42 | parsonsd | liable, seems new. don't rememeber having it before.... |
| 06:55.53 | parsonsd | valdyn, it's ignorable? |
| 06:56.13 | fatpelt | liable: ah. i hit that page earlier, saw the bolded sections and mistakenly thought they were headers |
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| 06:56.42 | parsonsd | valdyn, liable, how about, last time i started mucking with the ifaces and my routes, which was the last time power shut down my machines. |
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| 06:57.05 | liable | you can disable it in /etc/host*something iirc |
| 06:57.20 | NefariousPrior | How would I go about mirroring my ssh session on a real console? I'm thinking tail, but idk. |
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| 06:57.29 | liable | or i guess theres a module for it.. |
| 06:57.43 | parsonsd | of course, now i gotta remember route and i really, really don't like it. tells me that the (made-local) examples i see in the manpages don't work. *sigh* |
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| 06:57.52 | parsonsd | if i can ignore it, i will. |
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| 06:58.07 | parsonsd | i have been wanting to mess with ip6, but never had a far end of the tunnel |
| 06:58.18 | fatpelt | NefariousPrior: what do you mean ? |
| 06:59.14 | fatpelt | is there any real difference to doing a fresh install of etch or an upgrade from a fresh install of sarge ? |
| 06:59.31 | liable | NefariousPrior: screen and screen -x?? |
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| 07:00.00 | NefariousPrior | fatpelt: I mean I want what I typing and it's out put on my ssh session to be shown on my monitor. |
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| 07:00.24 | NefariousPrior | liable: that's possible. LEt me read the screen man page. |
| 07:01.57 | NefariousPrior | liable: You wouldn't happen to have an example of that would you? hehe |
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| 07:02.03 | stew | fatpelt: do you need a newer than 2.6.8 to get on the network? do you need the installer to put your root partition on lvm/raid/cryptoloop? if yes to anything you want the etch installer, otherwise it doesn't matter |
| 07:02.42 | meff | are there any linux compatible compression programs that i can make it vary compression ratio (ie, store .mp3, compress .txt) ? |
| 07:03.00 | liable | NefariousPrior: i am not sure exactly what your after, but ssh into the box, run screen. from the server, run screen -x to see that ssh session? |
| 07:03.24 | criminy | I'm getting weird tab completion results. When I do tab completion for a filename after scp I get non-existant files that have pipes in them? |
| 07:03.33 | fatpelt | stew: ah.. thanks :) |
| 07:03.40 | NefariousPrior | liable: yeah, that should work. Just wasn't sure what command to use on which 'screen'. heh |
| 07:03.53 | criminy | |1|randomlettersandnumbers=|randomlettsersandnumbers=: |
| 07:04.01 | criminy | I'm just curious as to what they mean |
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| 07:04.41 | fatpelt | criminy: you sure they are non-existant? |
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| 07:05.01 | criminy | tab completion for copy doesn't show them, ls -la doesn't show them |
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| 07:06.33 | fatpelt | criminy: i'm at a loss unless your shell is trying to tab complete of something else (i know you can do some crazy stuff with the tab completion if you know what you're doing) |
| 07:06.48 | stew | criminy: look at .ssh/known_hosts |
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| 07:06.56 | criminy | It does it with scp in any directory. I think I just realized what stew said |
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| 07:07.24 | criminy | yeah, it is known_hosts. Didn't realize tab completion could do that |
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| 07:07.40 | stew | criminy: nowadays by default, the known hosts are hashed so that if someone get hold of your account, they can't just look at .ssh/known_hosts to find other accounts they might have just also compromised |
| 07:07.51 | Dominicano | hello |
| 07:07.57 | Pupeno2 | meff: it is not clear what you want. |
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| 07:08.30 | Pupeno2 | Is there any thore way to get a ISO-like date on the command line that having to run the command date with a long set of hand-made formatting? |
| 07:09.19 | cld2 | are "we" ok for the DST change in the states? |
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| 07:09.37 | mrec_ | is debian's libpci broken? |
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| 07:09.52 | mrec_ | it just doesn't return any pci identifier here |
| 07:09.59 | guru | is there somewhere i can get a binary of transcode for sid? |
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| 07:10.04 | dondelelcaro | cld2: if you've got libc6 sarge5 or the equivalent testing/unstable packages and have run tzconfig at some point, yes. |
| 07:10.29 | liable | guru: debian-multimedia.org |
| 07:10.35 | guru | liable: thanks |
| 07:10.41 | cld2 | dondelelcaro: thanks. |
| 07:11.01 | cld2 | dondelelcaro: what is sarge5? |
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| 07:13.13 | Dominicano | hello |
| 07:13.30 | Gokee2 | Ok I have a real problem with my xserver now, if I try and do glxinfo it has a "Segmentation fault". The log will is at http://channels.debian.net/paste/5479. Whats wrong now? |
| 07:15.35 | no-remorse | yeah! ... GOT IT |
| 07:15.38 | Dominicano | which is the common IRC client in debian? |
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| 07:16.04 | Gokee2 | Dominicano, I use xchat |
| 07:16.16 | no-remorse | I use KSirc |
| 07:16.25 | stoned | irssi FTW! |
| 07:16.38 | cld2 | irssi +1 :) |
| 07:16.41 | dondelelcaro | !+info libc6 sarge |
| 07:16.43 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:16.43 | Dominicano | so do I, i mean, is other soft, i forget the name (no xchat) |
| 07:16.49 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5 (sarge), Packaged size: 4911 kB, Installed size: 15624 kB |
| 07:16.52 | Gokee2 | I use irssi when I don`t have a xserver handy |
| 07:16.54 | dondelelcaro | cld2: see above. |
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| 07:17.08 | chealer | for the record, the fsck issues I discussed earlier are caused by #387861 |
| 07:17.15 | cld2 | dondelelcaro: thanks. |
| 07:18.35 | stew | chealer: is there a bug filed yet about the kernel thing you're seeing? |
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| 07:19.28 | chealer | stew: yeah, #404416. I'm investigating it at the moment (that was offset for a few hours by the fsck issue :-P ) |
| 07:20.10 | cld2 | !+info lilbc6 etch |
| 07:20.12 | dpkg | Package 'lilbc6' does not exist. |
| 07:21.16 | stew | chealer: cool |
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| 07:22.47 | cld2 | does anyone know if X.org will read resources from .Xdefault such as a font dir? |
| 07:24.01 | maddash | anyone running xfce and willing to share their `ps aux`? |
| 07:24.12 | Gokee2 | So does anyone have any idea why glx is failing for me now? On the console is also says (EE) NVIDIA(0)): Failed to initialize the GLX module |
| 07:24.16 | Gokee2 | it* |
| 07:24.28 | mitti | I'm running xfs_repair and it's been stuck doing nothing for a _REALLY_ long time.. When it was active I was in D state for a little while, but now it's just sitting there using no resources.. any know how bad it would be for me to kill this in phase 3? |
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| 07:26.54 | chealer | Gokee2: best to provide your full X log |
| 07:27.26 | Gokee2 | chealer, I said it awhile ago, its at http://channels.debian.net/paste/5479 : |
| 07:27.29 | Gokee2 | :)* |
| 07:27.58 | Gokee2 | Should I have some module loaded for the nvidia glx? |
| 07:29.07 | chealer | Gokee2: the relevant error is "(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" |
| 07:29.20 | chealer | Gokee2: yes, glx |
| 07:29.31 | chealer | Gokee2: check that this file is OK |
| 07:30.28 | Gokee2 | libglx.so yep its there |
| 07:32.30 | Gokee2 | chealer, Anything else I can do? |
| 07:33.00 | chealer | Gokee2: oh, maybe one line above actually: "dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000040gl" |
| 07:33.02 | no-remorse | night guys |
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| 07:33.38 | chealer | Gokee2: looks like a broken install... please provide the output of $ COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l nvidia* |
| 07:35.18 | Gokee2 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/5480 |
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| 07:36.37 | cheal | Gokee2: did you already use nvidia-installer on that installation? |
| 07:37.02 | Gokee2 | cheal, I used it a kernel ago |
| 07:37.17 | cheal | Gokee2: did you try debsums? |
| 07:37.30 | Gokee2 | No whats that do? |
| 07:38.38 | Guerin | Gokee2: man debsums |
| 07:38.42 | Guerin | ... |
| 07:39.04 | cheal | Gokee2: check the package description. in this case it can help confirming that nvidia-installer broke your system |
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| 07:39.31 | Gokee2 | nvidia-glx comes out OK for everything |
| 07:39.46 | cheal | Gokee2: that's not the only thing |
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| 07:40.14 | Gokee2 | cheal, What else should I check? |
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| 07:40.36 | cheal | Gokee2: I'm not willing to give you a list of packages. check the whole system |
| 07:40.57 | Gokee2 | ok so just do debsums -ca? |
| 07:41.32 | cheal | Gokee2: not sure...man debsums. debsums -s; is what I remembered |
| 07:42.51 | Gokee2 | "-s, --silent Only report errors." "debsums -ca List changed package files from all installed packages with checksums." |
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| 07:43.10 | Gokee2 | They seem about the same? |
| 07:45.02 | cheal | Gokee2: yeah. I would have thought that debsums; would already "List changed package files from all installed packages with checksums." |
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| 07:45.29 | cheal | Gokee2: either -s or -c should be enough |
| 07:47.26 | Gokee2 | it can`t open debsums: can't open kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 file /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386/include/config/LotsOfStuffFillsUpConsole |
| 07:47.56 | cheal | Gokee2: is kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 installed? |
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| 07:48.55 | Gokee2 | cheal, I don`t know let me check |
| 07:49.06 | valdyn | Gokee2: you need to purge all debian nvidia packages and use the uninstall feature of nvidias installer then additionally check the libGL that your programs are linking against, might still be files around you have to rm manually |
| 07:50.07 | Gokee2 | valdyn, Ok, know of a good walkthough on that so I don`t miss anything? |
| 07:50.18 | valdyn | Gokee2: no |
| 07:50.41 | Gokee2 | kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 is installed |
| 07:50.57 | cheal | Gokee2: any reason? |
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| 07:51.33 | Gokee2 | cheal, Not really no, I might have had a reason a few years ago I guess.... |
| 07:51.44 | pythonic | how do i take screenshots of the installer? |
| 07:51.57 | Arafangi1n | pythonic: Run it in VMware, or use a camera. |
| 07:51.59 | valdyn | pythonic: you run it in a virtualisation environment |
| 07:52.03 | cheal | Gokee2: yeah, it's an obsolete package. remove it |
| 07:52.18 | Gokee2 | cheal, ok its going away now |
| 07:53.18 | pythonic | the vmware the only virtualization environment that'll work with the installer? |
| 07:53.37 | valdyn | pythonic: qemu works |
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| 07:53.55 | pythonic | okay. thanks :-) |
| 07:54.04 | Arafangi1n | As does a whole bunch of others, actually, but qemu and vmware are the easiest to use on linux. ;) |
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| 08:02.00 | jae | Anyone use AVM's Fritz!Box? |
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| 08:04.33 | NetEcho | anyone have an idea how to filter apt-get to only install english versions of openoffice stuff |
| 08:04.39 | NetEcho | at current it wants to install everything |
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| 08:08.05 | dimir | Morning! |
| 08:09.58 | pinx | NetEcho: unless there is a specific package that is english only -- no |
| 08:10.14 | NetEcho | there is a bunch of packages you need |
| 08:10.24 | NetEcho | including the english thesauruses |
| 08:10.29 | NetEcho | apt-get trys to install every language |
| 08:10.44 | NetEcho | that can easily become a few gigs of data |
| 08:11.07 | pinx | NetEcho: try installing each one by name - |
| 08:11.23 | NetEcho | thats a lot of packages |
| 08:11.52 | pinx | NetEcho: the joys of doing a manual install |
| 08:11.53 | NetEcho | there has got to be a way to do openoffice*en* |
| 08:12.21 | pinx | NetEcho: can you not just accept the standard packages and then delet what yu don't need later? |
| 08:12.39 | NetEcho | also a lot of work dude |
| 08:12.42 | pinx | NetEcho: there does not *have* to be anything |
| 08:12.43 | NetEcho | there is like 300 packages |
| 08:13.12 | pinx | and this is a debian channel -- go and ask in #ooffice |
| 08:13.22 | NetEcho | ooffice doesn't maintain apt-get |
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| 08:15.16 | jae | NetEcho: No, there is no way to do that |
| 08:15.23 | jae | Period |
| 08:15.32 | NetEcho | no way to use an expression? |
| 08:15.58 | jae | NetEcho: There is no way to do what you want, not with bare apt-get |
| 08:16.05 | pinx | NetEcho: how many ways do you want to hear NO |
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| 08:16.11 | jae | End of looong, and possibly drawn-out discussion |
| 08:16.12 | NetEcho | what about excluding stuff like the help packs? |
| 08:16.30 | pinx | NetEcho: no |
| 08:16.33 | NetEcho | Package openoffice.org-help-cs ect |
| 08:16.51 | jae | You could, however, find all the en packages and install them, thus dragging in the oo.org packages |
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| 08:17.11 | pinx | jae: I've already suggested that |
| 08:17.12 | jae | COLUMNS=150 dlocate -l openoff|fgrep -e -en |
| 08:17.28 | Gokee2 | NetEcho, make a script that calls apt-cache search then takes out what you don`t want and installs the rest |
| 08:17.39 | NetEcho | hrm never though of that |
| 08:17.40 | liable | oo *is* a pita with the amount of shit it installs |
| 08:17.57 | NetEcho | OO is also useful for MS document compatibility |
| 08:18.03 | NetEcho | as well as WP |
| 08:19.06 | jae | OOorg: /dev/mapper/vg0-openoffice 440M 221M 219M 50.3 [######### ] /usr/lib/openoffice |
| 08:19.15 | jae | 200M PITA :P |
| 08:19.16 | pinx | liable - if you have the hdd space, it's "usually" better to allow it to do it's own thing |
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| 08:20.39 | NetEcho | know of any addons for aptitude to add expresion searching |
| 08:20.39 | NetEcho | ? |
| 08:21.02 | NetEcho | err |
| 08:21.03 | NetEcho | installing |
| 08:21.46 | bradel | i get this when i am updating: Err http://http.us.debian.org etch Release. somethng's wrong? |
| 08:22.03 | NetEcho | http://http.us.debian.org |
| 08:22.09 | NetEcho | is the http supposed to be there twice? |
| 08:22.24 | bradel | yep |
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| 08:22.49 | bradel | ever look at your sources.list? |
| 08:22.56 | NetEcho | I don't use that mirror |
| 08:23.07 | jae | It's a mirror pool |
| 08:23.26 | NetEcho | http://mirror.peer1.net/debian/ is what I use |
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| 08:23.45 | bradel | where is that? |
| 08:24.03 | pinx | what's the cl for setting the time? |
| 08:24.06 | NetEcho | well I think its in Canada but peer1 is one of the fastest bandwidht providers in North America |
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| 08:24.12 | NetEcho | *bandwidth |
| 08:24.19 | NetEcho | they have DCs all over North America |
| 08:24.35 | NetEcho | also some of the most expensive bandwidth to buy |
| 08:24.41 | NetEcho | I get about 800kbs from them |
| 08:25.13 | bradel | something is wrong with some of the packages in this repo. i get: |
| 08:25.24 | bradel | 50% [5 Packages gzip 2355200] [6 Packages 0/5642kB 0%] 37.7kB/s 2m29s |
| 08:25.26 | bradel | gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file |
| 08:25.28 | bradel | Err http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages |
| 08:25.29 | bradel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.40 | NetEcho | corrupted files? |
| 08:25.46 | NetEcho | oh |
| 08:25.47 | NetEcho | or |
| 08:25.51 | NetEcho | try re-installing gzip |
| 08:25.56 | liable | bradel: try another repo, you get that from time to time |
| 08:25.59 | jae | 800kbs? kilo bytes or kilobits? |
| 08:26.03 | Supaplex | yes |
| 08:26.32 | NetEcho | kilobits |
| 08:26.39 | bradel | let me try NetEcho's. |
| 08:26.49 | NetEcho | 800 kilobytes would exceed my quoted speed |
| 08:26.52 | NetEcho | I'd be very impressed |
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| 08:27.07 | NetEcho | I'm getting just short of 1 megabit from peer1 |
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| 08:27.26 | Gokee2 | Grrrr while removing nvidia stuff on my laptop in my quest to make nvidia work I accadently removed it from my desktop when I forgot I had exited ssh :( |
| 08:27.28 | jae | I get 1.5 MBytes from the official DE mirror (ADSL2+, 16MBit downstream </bragging>) |
| 08:27.32 | NetEcho | actually 800kilobytes would be .5 megabits slower than my quoted speed |
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| 08:27.55 | liable | Gokee2: heh, i usually name my terms, its easy to do :) |
| 08:28.12 | liable | easy to do= forget which term is which machine |
| 08:28.45 | NetEcho | my ISP quotes for 7mbits now I think |
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| 08:29.10 | jae | Put the machine name in the shell prompt... |
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| 08:30.41 | bradel | Now i getL W: GPG error: http://mirror.peer1.net etch Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 08:30.56 | bradel | Only a warning. is it serious? |
| 08:30.59 | NetEcho | I remember getting those before |
| 08:31.13 | NetEcho | I think it just means the gpg keys are screwy |
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| 08:31.57 | Gokee2 | liable, My main problem with confusing stuff is normally clicking on stuff and typing away on my laptop and I need to shut down X for somthing so I press ctr+alt+back before rememering I am running synergy |
| 08:32.27 | liable | whats synergy ? |
| 08:32.36 | bradel | on retry, i get:Err http://mirror.peer1.net etch Release |
| 08:32.43 | bradel | something is wrong with Release. |
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| 08:33.02 | Gokee2 | liable, It allows you to move your mouse between computers and type plus copy and past |
| 08:33.17 | Gokee2 | I could not live without it :) |
| 08:33.22 | NetEcho | bradel show me your sources.list in pastebin |
| 08:33.41 | Gokee2 | But the server runs on my main computer which is where the keyboard is pluged in |
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| 08:33.53 | bradel | only one line: deb http://mirror.peer1.net/debian etch main contrib |
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| 08:36.11 | stoned | stew, guitar, soon |
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| 08:39.32 | bradel | NetEcho: same problem. i had enough. |
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| 08:39.42 | NetEcho | hrm |
| 08:39.44 | NetEcho | no idea man |
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| 08:40.22 | bradel | bye |
| 08:41.53 | lamer007 | hey guys, please, where to setup networking ? Im used to /etc/conf.d/network but obviously its a bit different on debian. Cheers ( especially those who not RTFM lol ) |
| 08:42.17 | liable | lamer007: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 08:42.50 | lamer007 | cheers |
| 08:42.52 | liable | man interfaces, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 08:43.56 | NetEcho | is iceweasel firefox optimized for debian or something? |
| 08:44.07 | fatpelt | i have a question about software raid10 on gentoo. how does mdadm allocate the partitions? eg (the raid1's are the first two grouped, and the second two grouped...... or is it 1 and 3 etc)? |
| 08:44.14 | stew | NetEcho: no, just renamed with different artwork |
| 08:44.26 | NetEcho | so no actual change to firefox? |
| 08:44.31 | stew | NetEcho: and in the future with security fixes |
| 08:44.37 | NetEcho | k good |
| 08:44.54 | stew | NetEcho: not to be confused with gnu iceweasel |
| 08:44.59 | stew | for maximum confusion |
| 08:45.09 | NetEcho | gnu iceweasel? |
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| 08:45.39 | stew | NetEcho: the debian "iceweasel" has nothing to do with http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ |
| 08:45.48 | NetEcho | boy o boy |
| 08:45.51 | NetEcho | confusion lol |
| 08:45.53 | stew | yeah |
| 08:45.59 | NetEcho | whats so great about gnu's firefox? |
| 08:46.11 | stew | dunno |
| 08:46.28 | liable | gnu's firefox? |
| 08:46.50 | stew | gnuzilla aka iceweasel |
| 08:47.28 | NetEcho | any good? |
| 08:47.38 | stew | dunno |
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| 08:53.27 | boodie | Hiyo - I am tryin' to import mozilla mail into evolution; it seems impossible - has anyone tried? |
| 08:54.34 | stoned | man linux just in general pissed me off again so badly |
| 08:54.57 | stoned | I was playing guitar and I came up with a kickass riff and I wanted to record it so I won't forget, and my sound stopped working |
| 08:55.03 | stoned | it won't record or playback, anything |
| 08:55.16 | stoned | I saw no processes using sound |
| 08:55.55 | stoned | audacity reports no sound devices can be opened |
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| 08:56.03 | NetEcho | my sound card just started doing random stuff too |
| 08:56.09 | NetEcho | it won't play in xmms anymore |
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| 08:56.46 | liable | conspiracy? too much weed? |
| 08:57.05 | liable | i believe the sound police are out tonight |
| 08:57.18 | NetEcho | nah something is prolly trying to use the driver |
| 08:57.30 | NetEcho | not an issue |
| 08:58.00 | NetEcho | weird |
| 08:58.10 | NetEcho | samba isn't accepting my user name for remote connection |
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| 08:59.18 | saturne | hello |
| 09:00.07 | boodie | It's a colossal waste of time - unless you're a sytem administrator or an IT professional |
| 09:00.33 | boodie | in which case this system is probably superior |
| 09:00.51 | NetEcho | ? |
| 09:00.59 | saturne | i've a problem with a machine, i use sar to get statistics, and with this machine, the last line is always the time before restarting.. If i put the hard disk in another machine, sar can gets statistics,but under this machine, and only this machine, i've no statistics.. have you an idea to resov the problem? |
| 09:01.01 | NetEcho | what are you talking about? |
| 09:01.04 | boodie | this is my opinion |
| 09:01.21 | NetEcho | boodie who are you talking about and what are you talking about? |
| 09:01.25 | NetEcho | or talking too |
| 09:01.26 | NetEcho | -o |
| 09:01.57 | boodie | linux in general |
| 09:02.11 | anapivirtua | Hi all |
| 09:02.11 | pinx | boodie try ##linux |
| 09:02.17 | NetEcho | so you're completely biased |
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| 09:02.25 | NetEcho | linux has great potential to be a desktop system |
| 09:02.29 | HardDisk_WP | hi |
| 09:02.38 | boodie | You really convinced? |
| 09:02.40 | HardDisk_WP | how do I switch browser from konqueror to iceweasel? |
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| 09:02.44 | NetEcho | indeed I am |
| 09:02.56 | NetEcho | considering the first time I used linux was about 9 years ago |
| 09:03.03 | HardDisk_WP | everytime i click a link (skype, icedove, icq...) it opens me konqueror |
| 09:03.07 | NetEcho | every now and then I tinker with it |
| 09:04.12 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: you need to reset the file associations in knoqueror |
| 09:04.24 | HardDisk_WP | how? |
| 09:04.26 | NetEcho | as for IT Professionals / System Administrators linux for the most part is usualy useless to them because in todays society they like quick and easy |
| 09:04.45 | swa_mobil | don't feed the trolls |
| 09:05.04 | NetEcho | I've been trying to push linux at the school board for 2 years now |
| 09:05.08 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: look in settings>configure Konqueror |
| 09:05.24 | stoned | hah |
| 09:05.27 | stoned | I recorded it finaly |
| 09:05.28 | NetEcho | instead of upgrading from Netware to SuSE via Novel they went to Mac Servers :@ |
| 09:05.28 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: this is not a kde channel |
| 09:05.37 | HardDisk_WP | ok thx |
| 09:05.43 | stoned | I found it, VirtualBox was locked with alsa |
| 09:06.09 | NetEcho | was hoping for a linux server |
| 09:06.19 | NetEcho | would be much easier to setup administration machines all over the place |
| 09:06.31 | NetEcho | instead we have to use personal laptops |
| 09:06.40 | NetEcho | which in some ways is beneficial |
| 09:06.55 | NetEcho | but sometimes I have my laptop acting as a image server or fileserver that I can't bring it with me |
| 09:07.25 | NetEcho | man I'm hungry |
| 09:07.26 | NetEcho | brb |
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| 09:12.02 | HardDisk_WP | pinx, eh..which MIME type are web url's? i remember something with www in it, but searching for www shows nothing |
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| 09:15.14 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: mime-type=text/html |
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| 09:15.34 | uwe | um, im trying to force installing openoffice 2.1 from experimental , but synaptic is not changing to that version, and its doing it silently ! any idea why is that? |
| 09:16.11 | cahoot | uwe: trying to protect you from suicide? |
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| 09:16.17 | pinx | !tell uwe about backports |
| 09:16.24 | HardDisk_WP | pinx, hmm...that's evil...it changes behaviour for URLs with .htm only, but not for other URLs :-( |
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| 09:16.48 | markybob | experimental? it's in sid. what are you doing? |
| 09:16.52 | LoneWlf | uwe, different binaries mebbe? did you do a updatedb and then a locate on the binary to rule that out? it's extremely possible to have 2 installations of the same proggy... |
| 09:16.57 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: try php, etc and see what happens |
| 09:17.02 | LoneWlf | listen to markybob |
| 09:17.05 | uwe | cahoot, im running sid already .... why would using experimental openoffice on sid be considered suicide? |
| 09:17.20 | markybob | uwe, IT'S IN SID |
| 09:17.28 | HardDisk_WP | pinx, that wont help for blog entries... |
| 09:17.29 | pinx | uwe - double suicide ;-) |
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| 09:17.56 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: what do they come in with as file extensions? |
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| 09:18.34 | uwe | i have 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5 in sid !!! |
| 09:18.36 | uwe | :S |
| 09:18.54 | HardDisk_WP | pinx, no file extension...http://domain.xy/the_title_of_the_blog/ |
| 09:19.00 | HardDisk_WP | in this format... |
| 09:19.11 | HardDisk_WP | which dont have file extensions,only the HTTP:// |
| 09:19.14 | uwe | and yes, i updated 3 times at least today |
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| 09:20.26 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: try application/xhtml+xml |
| 09:20.53 | pinx | HardDisk_WP: -- why am I doing this??? -- you can do the google thing as easily as I can!!! |
| 09:20.54 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: go into k control center and fiddle with the shit theree |
| 09:21.34 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: type kcontrol in the shell, or kmenu > somewhere |
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| 09:22.08 | HardDisk_WP | yacc, i already have iceweasel as standard KDE component |
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| 09:22.35 | uwe | markybob, LoneWlf ... http://openoffice.debian.net/ says its in exp, 2.0.4 is still in sid |
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| 09:22.57 | cahoot | uwe: so say pdo too |
| 09:23.28 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: or use (as root, or sudo) update-alternatives --config x-www-browser to set your default browser |
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| 09:23.44 | uwe | cahoot, pdo ? |
| 09:24.16 | cahoot | !pdo |
| 09:24.16 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 09:24.16 | enouf | yacc? .. anything like a llama? |
| 09:24.16 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, ok, will try |
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| 09:25.24 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, -cc +p |
| 09:25.49 | enouf | yap? |
| 09:25.55 | HardDisk_WP | yap+ |
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| 09:25.58 | HardDisk_WP | arrgh |
| 09:26.02 | HardDisk_WP | s/+/ |
| 09:26.02 | enouf | haha |
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| 09:26.24 | enouf | !typosmite HardDisk_WP |
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| 09:26.41 | HardDisk_WP | lol |
| 09:26.47 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, it worked...thx |
| 09:26.59 | enouf | no prob ;-0 |
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| 09:27.11 | guru | .win close |
| 09:27.17 | guru | whoops |
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| 09:27.44 | psyche__ | hey... can debian read 320Gb hard-drive? |
| 09:27.58 | psyche__ | hey... can debian read 320Gb hard-drive? |
| 09:28.01 | psyche__ | wtf? |
| 09:28.01 | ravan | is there an irssi equivalent of gaim-thinklight? |
| 09:28.14 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: look in /etc/alternatives and become familiar with your choices for many default things there .. man update-alternatives, mand update-<tons-of-other-things> ;-) |
| 09:28.18 | psyche__ | asd |
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| 09:28.32 | enouf | s/mand/man |
| 09:28.53 | uwe | ok ... i dont understand, please allow me to ask again, why is synaptic refusing to install from expermental ? |
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| 09:28.58 | HardDisk_WP | psyche__, i am sure it can |
| 09:29.01 | scenestar | yo |
| 09:29.05 | scenestar | can someone help me |
| 09:29.12 | hlpwfuse | hi there's a way to compare 2 files and know what lines are in one and not in the other (even if one is : line 1 - line 2 and the other files has line 2 - line 1)? |
| 09:29.13 | scenestar | when i do a first install of debian sarge |
| 09:29.20 | psyche__ | :D lol, i didnt see my text |
| 09:29.22 | scenestar | the isntaller asks me if i want to add another apt source |
| 09:29.30 | psyche__ | now i can see it |
| 09:29.34 | scenestar | how can i get the same wizard after install? |
| 09:29.58 | liable | ravan: gaim-thinkight? |
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| 09:30.33 | enouf | scenestar: /msg dpkg apt howto .. what you do is modify /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:30.45 | liable | Smooph: post sarge doesnt have apt-setup, its only in the installer |
| 09:30.47 | scenestar | yeah i know how that shit works |
| 09:30.51 | scenestar | ah ok |
| 09:30.53 | liable | scenestar: ^^ |
| 09:31.07 | scenestar | is there any way i can run it again off the cd |
| 09:31.12 | liable | no |
| 09:31.19 | liable | just edit the file |
| 09:31.27 | valdyn | uwe: why the hell would you install an experimental package manager? |
| 09:31.28 | liable | its not rocket science |
| 09:31.36 | enouf | scenestar: /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 09:32.09 | enouf | !nickometer Koray____^^ |
| 09:32.10 | dpkg | 'Koray____^^' is 99.963% lame, enouf |
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| 09:32.23 | uwe | !!! i dont want to install synaptic from exp, i want to install ooo 2.1 from exp valdyn ! but synaptic is refusing |
| 09:32.23 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, uwe |
| 09:32.34 | scenestar | what goddamn asperger wrote that fucking dpkg hint |
| 09:32.36 | scenestar | seriously |
| 09:32.46 | scenestar | only a fucking autist can write cryptic shit like that |
| 09:32.51 | ravan | liable: it notifies a new message in gaim by flashing an led at the top of my laptop screen |
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| 09:33.37 | liable | ravan: funky, check irssi-scripts, or irssi.org, or if you like perl *shudder* make one :) |
| 09:33.54 | valdyn | uwe: policy i guess see output of 'apt-cache policy openoffice.org' |
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| 09:34.34 | valdyn | uwe: 'apt-get -t experimental install openoffice.org' should work still, i don't know if synaptic has a switch like that |
| 09:34.36 | liable | ravan: or ask tpml and see if anyone there might help |
| 09:34.59 | liable | ravan: i wouldnt mind trying it myself.. |
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| 09:35.25 | valdyn | uwe: what does oo.org 2.1 have that would make you risk your system? |
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| 09:36.12 | uwe | valdyn, thank you very much, will try it now |
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| 09:36.35 | uwe | well, synatpic has something that is called "force version" which usually works just fine |
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| 09:37.19 | valdyn | uwe: that package has more dependencies inside experimental, so uh, that might break that force thing |
| 09:37.47 | uwe | valdyn, it seems its working on cli, thank you :) |
| 09:38.13 | uwe | well ... maybe ... but i suppose it shouldnt be silent about it ! |
| 09:38.38 | valdyn | uwe: agreed, file a bug report |
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| 09:40.30 | uwe | k |
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| 09:45.57 | nescius | uff, broken dependency phpapi-20020918 which is in fact metapackage included in libapache-mod-php4 php4-cli and php4-cgi - all of them are installed |
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| 09:46.35 | nescius | php-imlib: Depends: phpapi-20020918 |
| 09:47.26 | nescius | debain stable 3 with backports |
| 09:49.23 | nyty | vistickaaaa |
| 09:49.24 | nyty | :D |
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| 09:56.44 | maddash | i'd like to install xfce4.4 (not 4.3.99.2), but packages.debian.org tells me it's located in experimental. so do i just add sid's repository to my sources.list? |
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| 09:58.15 | fireba11 | maddash: no |
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| 10:04.21 | maddash | fireba11: then? |
| 10:04.53 | fireba11 | maddash: that will you most likely give a couple other things from sid too you don't really want |
| 10:05.09 | fireba11 | maddash: look for a backport |
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| 10:10.25 | Icb3a-LBNF | hi |
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| 10:16.10 | Mathiazz | hi |
| 10:16.17 | Mathiazz | i have a question? |
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| 10:16.34 | Mathiazz | is there an API in c Like java API |
| 10:16.49 | Mathiazz | with linkedlist, treeset etc ... |
| 10:17.13 | Mathiazz | and other collection of object |
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| 10:17.47 | ineiros | Mathiazz: That's a bit offtopic. But anyway, there's the Standard Template Library (STL). |
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| 10:18.04 | ineiros | In C++, I mean. Not C. |
| 10:18.18 | Mathiazz | in c? |
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| 10:18.40 | Mathiazz | i have to create my own linkedlist, treeset etc ... |
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| 10:21.54 | Techdeck | Hello, is there a way of using rsync to actually sync two boxes? let's say I want to receive some dirs from some host, how do I tell rsync to delete files that the server im receiving from doesn't have? |
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| 10:22.27 | zoghome2 | how do i configure flashplayer 9 to use alsa? |
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| 10:23.18 | maddash | i've got a directory full of tar.bz2 files. how can i `tar xjf` all of them at once? |
| 10:24.17 | simonrvn | for loop |
| 10:25.03 | Techdeck | tar xjvf *.tar.bz2 |
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| 10:25.18 | maddash | Techdeck: no. |
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| 10:25.39 | Techdeck | for i in *.tar.bz2 ; do tar xjf "$i" ; done |
| 10:25.46 | ft | maddash: for i in *.tar.bz2 ; do tar xjvf "$i" ; done |
| 10:25.50 | Zao | ls -1 *.tar.bz2 | xargs -n1 tar xfj |
| 10:26.04 | Techdeck | find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.tar.bz2' -exec tar xjf {} \; |
| 10:26.16 | lamer007 | lol |
| 10:26.24 | Techdeck | :} |
| 10:26.52 | anish | how to enable postgreSQL support for php is there a deb package for that? |
| 10:27.18 | anish | I want to integrate postgreSQL in LAMP |
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| 10:28.38 | maddash | Techdeck, ft, Zao,: thanks. |
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| 10:33.19 | waspius | hello..i just installed debian 3.1 but my screen is really really small.does anyone know how i can fix it? |
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| 10:35.58 | cahoot | waspius: speaking of X ( ie the graphical UI)? |
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| 10:36.28 | cahoot | waspius: then try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -plow |
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| 10:38.44 | waspius | cahoot: the whole screen is small..i run the command you told me but it says it is not found |
| 10:38.53 | cahoot | as root |
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| 10:39.27 | cahoot | waspius: ^^ |
| 10:40.10 | waspius | cahoot: yes thanx now it found it..so how do i know what driver to install?vesa etc?i have a laptop compaq presario 2500 with an ati radeon 345m |
| 10:40.40 | cahoot | ati I guess |
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| 10:41.21 | waspius | cahoot: no i mean the first screen asks for vesa,tga,sis,tdfx etc |
| 10:42.01 | cahoot | waspius: no option for ati or radeon? |
| 10:42.23 | waspius | cahoot: yep sorry..got it |
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| 10:43.08 | waspius | cahoot: video card bus identifier? |
| 10:43.15 | cahoot | leave empty |
| 10:43.26 | waspius | ok |
| 10:43.55 | waspius | cahoot: for the memory the same?i am not sure if it uses 128 |
| 10:44.58 | cahoot | waspius: no auto option? |
| 10:45.13 | waspius | no..i will just leave it blank |
| 10:45.30 | cahoot | waspius: can always rerun this |
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| 10:46.38 | waspius | cahoot: sorry for all the questions....do u know keyboard variant |
| 10:47.35 | cahoot | no really - have an hp 2500 (or 2800) not running atm though |
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| 10:48.22 | cahoot | waspius: err it's a compaq 2800 |
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| 10:50.19 | waspius | cahoot: ok thanx allot |
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| 10:51.49 | cahoot | waspius: anyway that one uses pc105 (kb) |
| 10:51.53 | Techdeck | is there a way of using rsync to actually sync two boxes? let's say I want to receive some dirs from some host, how do I tell rsync to delete files/dirs that the server im receiving from doesn't have? |
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| 10:52.12 | nescius | does apt-get have force option? some packages could not be installed because of missing dependency of metapackage included in prevously |
| 10:52.32 | liable | man apt-get ?? |
| 10:52.47 | nescius | -f but that doesnt working, thank you |
| 10:52.55 | nescius | you ve been most helpfull |
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| 10:54.22 | nescius | almost entire channel filled both idlers or trolls, i assume |
| 10:54.26 | liable | if apt-get is wanting depends it cant fix, then you need to use dpkg |
| 10:54.36 | liable | *plonk* |
| 10:54.43 | itchi | Yeah, FOSDEM in 2 hours :-) Go go go. |
| 10:54.50 | nescius | thats the answer i was looking for, thank you |
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| 10:59.57 | nescius | liable, right more archaisms in this channel the more i think that somethings bad with the debian |
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| 11:01.50 | moveax | Can the multi-user Desktop desk partition layout be considered more secure than the normal whole-disk setup? |
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| 11:03.51 | xingu | moveax: depends on what your mount flags are and how much time you spend running applications as uid(0) |
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| 11:04.37 | scanf | what is the quickest workaround for apt-get failure to compile psudo-python files under zope2.7 'skins' (known bug) |
| 11:04.41 | moveax | xingu: i see. I'm going to be running an IRCd from the box and it will have a WM |
| 11:04.58 | scanf | I just want apt-get to continue despite the errors |
| 11:05.15 | scanf | but I can't pass --abort-after= to apt-get |
| 11:06.02 | scanf | I could dig up the deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg it directly |
| 11:06.16 | scanf | but I'm sure there must be an easier way than that |
| 11:09.17 | scanf | no takers? |
| 11:09.48 | moveax | I don't know I'm afriad. |
| 11:11.06 | xingu | just because you can bang nails in with a screwdriver doesn't mean you should |
| 11:11.08 | eniac | I'm trying to configure mmy wifi card on a acer 1640 laptop |
| 11:11.27 | eniac | lspci tells me it's a intel corp 2500 BG network controller rev. 5 |
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| 11:11.42 | eniac | but after googling I don't have a clue which driver this NIC needs |
| 11:12.16 | liable | 2500? |
| 11:12.30 | zealot | lan express 2500? |
| 11:12.34 | ranpha | Hi there, what is a good torrent downloader (which support multiple downloads) for a debian machine without a X server. ? (preferably with a webgui) |
| 11:12.40 | liable | i think thats 3945 |
| 11:13.05 | liable | eniac: put your lspci on a pastebot |
| 11:13.10 | eniac | liable: ok one sec |
| 11:13.42 | xingu | eniac: try lspci -n too |
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| 11:14.50 | eniac | liable: http://kiwi.geiregat.org/lspci.out |
| 11:15.43 | moveax | xingu: is there a freebsd style handbook for debian I could possibly obtain from somewhere? |
| 11:15.45 | eniac | xingu: sec going to upload the lcpci -n output |
| 11:15.56 | liable | eniac: its a 2200 |
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| 11:16.14 | liable | \supported in etch kernels, you just need the firmware |
| 11:16.21 | liable | !ipw2200 |
| 11:16.22 | dpkg | hmm... ipw2200 is a driver for Intel wireless cards. It's built into kernels >= 2.6.15 and only compiles on a 2.6 kernel. If you need to build, you'll need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages, and contrib sources (ask me about <contrib>). To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. Ask me about <ipw2200 firmware>. Project page: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net |
| 11:16.44 | eniac | http://kiwi.geiregat.org/lspci-n.out |
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| 11:17.12 | xingu | "what liable said" |
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| 11:17.29 | eniac | sorry first pasted before reading |
| 11:17.42 | Zao | ranpha: rtorrent is good for console use. |
| 11:17.51 | eniac | !ipw2200 firmware |
| 11:17.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, ipw2200 firmware is If your kernel is < 2.6.15, make sure you have the ipw2200 module installed. Run "/sbin/modinfo ipw2200" to get your driver version. Go to http://ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php and download firmware that matches your driver version. Put the firmware into /lib/firmware. You will need to have udev or hotplug installed to load the firmware. |
| 11:18.05 | eniac | so that's what I need to do since I'm running etch |
| 11:18.08 | eniac | I guess |
| 11:18.08 | Zao | ranpha: It doesn't have any web UI, but it can monitor a watch directory for new torrents. |
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| 11:18.43 | liable | eniac: you can use /msg dpkg ipw2200 firmware (the bot will tell you in /query, saves us having to see your bot needs :) |
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| 11:19.25 | ifireball | did anyone manage to backport nvidia-glx-legacy to sarge? |
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| 11:19.55 | liable | backports.org? |
| 11:19.58 | Flakk | hello people I wonder whether there is a simple way to find all the files in the given directory whose size is less than a given value, the commands locate or find apparently do not do the job |
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| 11:20.24 | ifireball | liable: nope, they packported xorg but not the nvidia driver to go along with it |
| 11:20.40 | liable | ifireball: bugger |
| 11:20.53 | ranpha | Zao : was thinking of rtorrent aswell only i connect to a shh connection . I know the screen package but i can't find a good NOOB turtorial of how it works |
| 11:21.07 | Zao | Flakk: find -size -512M |
| 11:21.14 | Zao | That'll find all files less than 512MB. |
| 11:21.23 | Flakk | oh thanx |
| 11:21.34 | Flakk | and if i want it to search all the subdirectiroes? |
| 11:21.37 | xand | Flakk: find does do it |
| 11:21.46 | Zao | It recurses automagically. |
| 11:21.50 | xand | Flakk: find is recursive by default. |
| 11:21.50 | Zao | It's all in the man page. |
| 11:21.58 | liable | ranpha: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html |
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| 11:22.05 | eniac | liable: I've done everything , just the last line of the explenation tells me hotplug or udev have to load the firmware does this happen auto ? |
| 11:22.10 | eniac | or do I have to do something manually ? |
| 11:22.11 | Flakk | great thanx i will try apparetnly overlooked thi option |
| 11:22.15 | liable | eniac: yep |
| 11:22.20 | ifireball | ranpha: you just type screen, do your thing, then type ctlr-a d to detach, and rung "screen -r" to reattach |
| 11:22.34 | liable | eniac: automagic, as long as its in the right spot |
| 11:22.53 | ifireball | bah typing way off this morning |
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| 11:23.23 | eniac | liable: kinda stuck now :s |
| 11:23.35 | eniac | isn't there some kind of tutorial or doc explaining how to setup wifi support |
| 11:23.44 | eniac | I need to start the NIC and enter a WEP passwd now |
| 11:24.17 | ranpha | BTW why isn't enhanced ctorrent not in the debian package? |
| 11:24.17 | liable | eniac: put the firmware in the right spot, and modprobe the module, then use ifconfig and iwconfig to set it up |
| 11:24.17 | xingu | eniac: if you're using a gui desktop, install/use network-manager |
| 11:24.23 | ranpha | ifireball : do i need to install screen on server or client? |
| 11:24.32 | liable | eniac: gnome and kde have network configuring things |
| 11:24.43 | ifireball | ranpha: server. (or both, its a useful tool...) |
| 11:24.45 | liable | ranpha: server |
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| 11:26.05 | ranpha | Both : thanks |
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| 11:29.18 | ranpha | ifireball So what i don't get is how does it remeber my screen even if i disconnect from my ssh session |
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| 11:30.08 | xingu | it chews gobs of memory until the system owner notices and blows its ass off the face of the planet and removes your account |
| 11:30.48 | ifireball | ranpha: that's the whole point, you session runs on a psudo-tty so your processes don't get SIGHUP when you close ssh, they keep running on the BG on the server |
| 11:30.49 | liable | ranpha: you ssh in, and reconnect to the screen session. when you log out (as long as you dont exit your screen session) it keeps running |
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| 11:31.08 | liable | ranpha: read that web page i gave you, it explains it mostly |
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| 11:33.38 | xingu | screen is a great way to bring yourself to the attention of folk who operate systems with ~permissive shell access policies |
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| 11:34.52 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 11:35.18 | mynullvoid | I am trying to create and sign a certificate, I issued ./CA.pl –newca |
| 11:35.27 | mynullvoid | and answered all the question |
| 11:35.56 | mynullvoid | but when I want to sign I got error saying Error opening CA private key ./demoCA/private/cakey.pem |
| 11:35.56 | mynullvoid | 12342:error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory:bss_file.c:278:fopen('./demoCA/private/cakey.pem','r') |
| 11:35.56 | mynullvoid | 12342:error:20074002:BIO routines:FILE_CTRL:system lib:bss_file.c:280: |
| 11:35.56 | mynullvoid | unable to load CA private key |
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| 11:36.05 | Flakk | xand: is there an option for "find" which wuld find the files aith extension "txt" ? |
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| 11:36.11 | mynullvoid | sorry for the flood |
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| 11:36.50 | xingu | extentions mean something entirely different on ufs-like filsystems |
| 11:36.51 | mynullvoid | my ./CA.pl –newca doesn't create /demoCA folder and other files |
| 11:37.09 | xingu | if you mean you want to find files with a trailing .txt in their name, -name \*.txt |
| 11:37.17 | eniac | liable: ok, card is recognized trying to get it started by using the following cmd: iwconfig eth1 key mykey essid romulus |
| 11:37.29 | eniac | liable: think I'm missing something, but can't figure it out from the man page |
| 11:37.46 | liable | eniac: did you bring it up with ifconfig first? |
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| 11:37.54 | eniac | aah no |
| 11:38.01 | eniac | thought iwconfig was ifconfig for wifi |
| 11:38.03 | eniac | guess not |
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| 11:38.27 | Flakk | xingu: great! thanx |
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| 11:38.56 | liable | eniac: you still need 'ifconfig eth1 up; iwconfig eth1 key blah essid blah; dhclient eth1' |
| 11:39.26 | liable | eniac: after setting the key and essid, check to see if its associated |
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| 11:43.35 | dromer | hi, I'm having trouble with apt all of a sudden. when I do update I get: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) and E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 11:43.43 | dromer | I have no idea what could be using it |
| 11:44.04 | liable | dromer: kill synaptic or aptitude in another temr? |
| 11:44.16 | liable | term |
| 11:44.18 | dromer | afaik nothing is runnind that could be using it |
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| 11:45.27 | dromer | hmm, in top I see root runnig aptitude? :/ |
| 11:45.31 | dromer | weird stuff |
| 11:46.08 | dromer | ok, fixed :) |
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| 11:50.14 | dromer | hmm, package not available in apt :( |
| 11:50.26 | mynullvoid | dromer: consider using screen |
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| 11:50.37 | dromer | mynullvoid: sorry? why? |
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| 11:50.48 | mynullvoid | if you want to upgrade package |
| 11:50.55 | mynullvoid | especially via remote |
| 11:51.05 | dromer | I'm not sure what screen has to do with this .. |
| 11:51.09 | mynullvoid | you can attach and detach your 'screen' |
| 11:51.15 | mynullvoid | ok |
| 11:51.29 | dromer | yes, but what has it to do with this? |
| 11:51.35 | mynullvoid | what's ur problem ? |
| 11:51.41 | dromer | I wouldn't usi it for that on this system ;) |
| 11:51.54 | dromer | wel, it's solved, apperantly root was running aptitude |
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| 11:52.12 | dromer | but now I'm having trouble finding a package ;/ |
| 11:52.13 | mynullvoid | ok |
| 11:52.25 | mynullvoid | apt-cache search <package> |
| 11:52.40 | Gnea | screen rocks for remote administration |
| 11:52.42 | dromer | actually I found .deb, but I don't know how to install it properly (irssi-fish_0.99-4_i386.deb) |
| 11:52.43 | mynullvoid | you may use official deb as well as unofficial |
| 11:52.45 | Gnea | only a fool wouldn't use it ;) |
| 11:52.57 | mynullvoid | dpkg -I <package> |
| 11:53.05 | Gnea | mynullvoid: but we don't support unofficial debs here |
| 11:53.14 | mynullvoid | yes, just telling |
| 11:53.16 | ifireball | Gnea: a fool with webmin... |
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| 11:53.20 | Gnea | that's fine |
| 11:53.23 | dromer | Gnea: I'm not in remote, and there are more sysadmins on this machine, so if I had apt/aptitudo in a screen thoy can't use it |
| 11:53.23 | Gnea | ifireball: heh |
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| 11:53.40 | mynullvoid | dpkg -I dromer |
| 11:53.54 | Gnea | dromer: sounds retarded |
| 11:53.57 | dromer | hehe |
| 11:54.06 | dromer | Gnea: what does? |
| 11:54.14 | Gnea | having more than 1 admin on a system |
| 11:54.14 | dromer | having multiple sysadmins? |
| 11:54.17 | dromer | meh |
| 11:54.18 | Gnea | yeah |
| 11:54.22 | dromer | I'm still noob, they have more exp |
| 11:54.25 | Gnea | i can see the point |
| 11:54.30 | Gnea | ok |
| 11:54.32 | dromer | it's just a private server |
| 11:54.34 | Gnea | that's fine then :) |
| 11:54.40 | dromer | to play around with |
| 11:54.52 | dromer | now I just want blowfish encrytion in my irssi ;) |
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| 11:55.07 | ifireball | Gnea: ever run a real network? |
| 11:55.08 | Gnea | hehe |
| 11:55.24 | Gnea | ifireball: yeah, have you? |
| 11:55.47 | ifireball | Gnea: sure, can't have one guy doing everything |
| 11:56.02 | Gnea | ifireball: hahaha, yeah, depends on the situation |
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| 11:57.38 | ifireball | Gnea: eventually you have to let the noobs do the log/user cleaning/etc. so you can focus on real stuff like auto-installs/tuning |
| 11:58.32 | Gnea | ifireball: it's worse when the admin that owns the system is the noob |
| 11:58.58 | ifireball | Gnea: even worse when he's boss... |
| 11:59.16 | Gnea | ifireball: no shit. |
| 11:59.22 | ifireball | or MCP... |
| 11:59.29 | Gnea | MCP? |
| 11:59.49 | ifireball | err. MCSE that is |
| 12:00.20 | Gnea | that's when things get... interesting :) |
| 12:01.45 | waspius | anyone know what repos i can add |
| 12:01.47 | ifireball | Gnea: you fint up "interesting" stuff like the fact that Linux will never allow AD to be it's timeserver, even when it's 2-3 level up the NTP tree... too bad solaris does so it just makes the Linux guys look bad... |
| 12:02.02 | ifireball | find out* |
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| 12:03.14 | loxley_ | ifireball: maybe solaris likes going into bed with microsoft, while linux thinks its ugly |
| 12:03.40 | Gnea | ifireball: it's a BDSM issue |
| 12:03.57 | e1z0 | ryc |
| 12:04.21 | ifireball | yeah, its little comfort when you have to ntpdate every few days to keep kerberos running |
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| 12:06.07 | Gnea | i don't see how that's a problem |
| 12:06.22 | Gnea | crontab, job's set, next! |
| 12:06.27 | xingu | I'd be vaguely interested in how the diagnosis was arrived at |
| 12:06.48 | mynullvoid | waspius: besides than non-free contrib you may add sources that have what you want |
| 12:06.50 | liable | you mean, you have to let the n00bs do the trivial stuff so you can irc all day? |
| 12:06.56 | xingu | I'd also shoot anyone I caught putting something which adjusted the system clock into cron - which depends on the system clock... |
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| 12:08.02 | xingu | as far as I'm aware one the things that xntpd doesn't discriminated about is up-strata vendor... |
| 12:08.11 | Gnea | if the admin doesn't know how to write a script to handle all of that and make it balance properly, then they shouldn't be setting crontab in the first place |
| 12:08.15 | xingu | in fact I'm not convinced there's a way to encode it in the packet |
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| 12:09.50 | ifireball | Gnea: that's a duct tape solution (which is what we're currently foced to do), I'd ratehr have NTP working properly |
| 12:10.37 | Gnea | ifireball: you make it sound like all of this should work just fine out-of-the-box |
| 12:11.06 | ifireball | Gnea: trivial stuff like NTP? sure. |
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| 12:11.23 | Gnea | use the right daemon for the right job |
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| 12:12.36 | ebw | Which is better ntfs-fuse or ntfs-3g |
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| 12:14.03 | ifireball | xingu: well, I'm talikg ntpd here, but you've given me an idea... any ide if it's available on RHEL3? |
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| 12:15.08 | moveax | question: I've used netselect-apt to get the best main mirror and non-US mirror (kind of) and done an update and upgrade, howver I can't install irssi at all. "apt-get install irssi" just brings nothing up. Nothing even close. |
| 12:15.27 | moveax | Do I need some non-official repository or something, or do install it manually? |
| 12:15.29 | ifireball | btw did anyone try the XFCE GUI installer from their site? I wonder if thunar is included in the main installer or is it just in the seperate one |
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| 12:15.44 | loxley_ | moveax: irssi-text perhaps |
| 12:16.09 | shkubane1 | hello. please is there something like pastebin.com to be installed in debian? |
| 12:16.10 | moveax | loxley_: oh for craps sake :/ |
| 12:16.19 | moveax | loxley_: how do you search for packages? |
| 12:16.20 | shkubane1 | i need similar thingy only for myself:) |
| 12:16.43 | loxley_ | moveax: apt-cache search |
| 12:16.47 | ranpha | ifireball: got everthing working. Now messing around with rtorrent. But doesn't rtorretn save the settings in rtorrent.rc (resource file? |
| 12:16.47 | ifireball | moveax: aptitude seach <word> |
| 12:17.09 | shkubane1 | moveax: read aptitude docs in /usr/share/doc/aptitude |
| 12:17.15 | shkubane1 | moveax: it is powerfull |
| 12:17.28 | ifireball | ranpha: I suppose it'll save them on the server |
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| 12:18.03 | moveax | shkubane1: nice, thanks |
| 12:18.18 | Gnea | shkubane1: just read the pastebin.com site |
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| 12:19.11 | ranpha | ifireball: i get this message on startup Could not read resource file: ~/.rtorrent.rc (also i doesn't save any of my settings) |
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| 12:19.21 | shkubane1 | Gnea: oh, ty :) |
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| 12:20.18 | ifireball | ranpha: do you have write access to your home dir on the server? |
| 12:20.29 | xingu | ok so the real problem here is that w32time is not an ntp server; it's an sntp client and server |
| 12:20.39 | ranpha | ifireball you mean home/username or home only? |
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| 12:20.51 | pythonic | can i encrypt all partitions except /boot partition from debian-installer? |
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| 12:20.55 | elshaa | hi |
| 12:21.04 | xingu | ie, you don't *want* to synchronise to it; if you must pick that host as your reference, stop the time service, and install a win32 xntpd. |
| 12:21.07 | ifireball | ranpha: home/username. |
| 12:21.34 | ranpha | ifireball Yes i have . I can make new directory in it and other files |
| 12:21.54 | Spliffster | hello. if i install quota on a server, will data on nfs shares be claculated propperly ? i have only experience with quota on a local host and local drives |
| 12:22.39 | shkubane1 | Gnea: but i would prefer to run it on my server. :) |
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| 12:23.28 | ifireball | xingu: I don't have much of a choice here, its an Ad-run network, everything syncs with that server, besides, its seems to be NTP enough for ntpdate (also, most notes talking about win's server being sntp were talikng about w2k or older, this is w2k3) |
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| 12:23.59 | ifireball | ranpha: what do you get from echo "$HOME" ? |
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| 12:24.28 | Gnea | shkubane1: ok, i thought it was there... |
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| 12:25.00 | ranpha | ifireball : /home/myusername |
| 12:25.25 | litage_ | my MacBook Pro has a touch obviously. i'm using synaptics to configure the touchpad. the LKM "appletouch" is loaded. however, /proc/bus/input/devices doesn't list "synaptics" or "ALPS". why might that be? |
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| 12:26.11 | ifireball | ranpha: can you make an ~/.rtorrent.rc file? |
| 12:26.22 | xingu | ifireball: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042 <-- only if you configure it to be; have you? |
| 12:26.26 | ranpha | Ifireball: do you neet to run rtorrent in root because i can't lock a session direcotry |
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| 12:27.31 | ifireball | ranpha: I don't raelly know about that, it does sound unlikely, but maybe you need to set the session directory to be one you have write access to |
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| 12:27.35 | liable | god no |
| 12:28.05 | ranpha | ifireball : i did but it didn;t work |
| 12:28.06 | xingu | ifireball: and I'm still unconvinced that it'll act as anything other than an sntp server, but still looking for a cite that it will |
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| 12:29.41 | Gnea | shkubane1: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.tar.gz |
| 12:30.19 | ifireball | xingu: 2 question here then: 1. why does it work on solaris? (doesn't seem their xntpd is anything special) 2. why does ntpdate work |
| 12:30.21 | waspius | i just installed debian and i want to add repos anyone know where i can find some? |
| 12:30.49 | xingu | ifireball: http://www.abcarticledirectory.com/Article/Configuring-Windows-as-a-NTP-Server/32848 <-- well there you go |
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| 12:30.54 | Gnea | !tell waspius about mirrors |
| 12:31.26 | xingu | ifireball: that takes us back to incomplete diagnosis; you'd need to paste the output of rv, lass, and psta on each associd in lass to take this further |
| 12:31.39 | psyco-obiwan | does somebody have pointers for me on how to do hardware recognition on each boot (for a bootable cd) ? or put else how do i make sure discover doesn't read any caches but actually tries to detect all hardware on every boot ? |
| 12:32.10 | Gnea | psyco-obiwan: that's what knoppix and kanotix do |
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| 12:32.10 | xingu | ifireball: all from ntpq, obviously |
| 12:32.23 | vlt | Hello. How can I update curl's ca file? I try to connect to an HTTPS server but validation fails ... while using a browser it works. |
| 12:32.43 | Gnea | psyco-obiwan: but basically if you have a 2.6 kernel and udev you'll be set |
| 12:32.45 | psyco-obiwan | Gnea: yeah...but i have rolled my own cdboot for mythfrontend and have it highly customised based on etch |
| 12:33.03 | Gnea | psyco-obiwan: etch isn't even stable yet, why? |
| 12:33.20 | psyco-obiwan | Gnea: I had to add eth1, eth2 to interfaces since eth0 seemed to be cached from the master |
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| 12:33.48 | Gnea | psyco-obiwan: is there the ability to rename interfaces? |
| 12:34.08 | psyco-obiwan | Gnea: i need some of the features of etch, etch is stable enough for me (except the mga dualhead doesn't work, but thats another story ;-)) |
| 12:34.12 | abrotman | try udev rules |
| 12:34.22 | Gnea | psyco-obiwan: right on :) |
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| 12:35.11 | Rippawallet | OMGI |
| 12:35.13 | waspius | thanx |
| 12:35.16 | Rippawallet | >.> |
| 12:35.22 | psyco-obiwan | abrotman: i figured there are rule files in /etc/udev mentioning those hardware parts i have problems with (namely eth0 and eth1) but can I safely delete those rule files or where can i get some background reading ? |
| 12:35.37 | abrotman | psyco-obiwan: and udev does detection on each boot |
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| 12:35.47 | abrotman | psyco-obiwan: or try ifrename |
| 12:36.07 | karmatronic | hello there |
| 12:36.19 | karmatronic | my laptop wont start cups web interface |
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| 12:36.29 | karmatronic | netiher the lpadmin thing |
| 12:36.45 | abrotman | printconf! |
| 12:37.17 | karmatronic | abrotman: good ieda , let s try it |
| 12:37.26 | karmatronic | s/ieda/idea |
| 12:37.40 | karmatronic | s/netiher/neither |
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| 12:37.57 | psyco-obiwan | abrotman: thx, but i think that would only solve the nic problem, but i want to have different audio adapters detected too. I currently have some dozen Compaq Deskpros for which i am building the cdrom but i want to make it more generic... |
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| 12:38.16 | abrotman | udev rules it is .. have fun |
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| 12:38.53 | shkubane1 | Gnea: ty, interesting.. how did you found it, lol |
| 12:39.07 | Gnea | shkubane1: i looked around lol |
| 12:39.22 | abrotman | Gnea: with your eyeballs lol ? |
| 12:39.32 | Gnea | shkubane1: google, actually - "pastebin source code" without the quotes |
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| 12:39.42 | shkubane1 | hehe, ty much gnea... |
| 12:39.44 | ifireball | xingu: well, thx you gave me some interesting ideas to take to the windows admin maybe its he's fault after all... ;) |
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| 12:40.41 | psyco-obiwan | abrotman: udev rules it is really, im having fun, thank you for the assistance! |
| 12:41.02 | shkubane1 | Gnea: btw i found some perl pastebot |
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| 12:41.06 | karmatronic | abrotman: didnt work ... |
| 12:41.12 | Gnea | shkubane1: oh? |
| 12:41.12 | abrotman | ^: knock it off |
| 12:41.16 | ^ | what? |
| 12:41.20 | abrotman | karmatronic: what kind of printer is it |
| 12:41.24 | ^ | abrotman? |
| 12:41.26 | shkubane1 | Gnea: having even irc synchro - which is good :) |
| 12:41.28 | Gnea | ^: pick a nick and stick with it |
| 12:41.38 | ^ | im trying to find one that suits me |
| 12:41.40 | litage_ | if i run `cat /dev/psaux` and move around on my touchpad, no output occurs. the same goes for /dev/input/mouse* . "synaptics" and "alps" aren't mentioned in /proc/bus/input/devices . however, the touchpad moves the mouse around. is this normal? |
| 12:41.41 | karmatronic | karmatronic: the printer is connected to my pc , it s usb and working |
| 12:41.48 | Gnea | ^: then do it elsewhere |
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| 12:41.53 | karmatronic | karmatronic: what i need is printing from the laptop |
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| 12:41.56 | abrotman | karmatronic: so what's the problem ? |
| 12:41.56 | ^ | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk |
| 12:42.06 | abrotman | ^: try doing it *before* you join a channel |
| 12:42.11 | karmatronic | karmatronic: on the laptop , i have dual boot |
| 12:42.35 | karmatronic | karmatronic: under XP , remote printing works well cos i have samba configured for it |
| 12:42.41 | abrotman | karmatronic: you're talking to yourself :) |
| 12:42.47 | satan_ | using debian 4.0 , gnome desktop where can i find the option to stop my monitor from going to sleep |
| 12:42.51 | karmatronic | abrotman: men i m tired :) |
| 12:42.55 | Gnea | LMFAO |
| 12:43.15 | karmatronic | abrotman: anyway i can remotely print using samba |
| 12:43.27 | shkubane1 | i always thought satan is using windows... |
| 12:43.29 | karmatronic | abrotman: but the laptop wont launch cups |
| 12:43.32 | Gnea | karmatronic: it's not difficult :) |
| 12:43.37 | hark | satan_: try gnome-screensaver-preferences |
| 12:43.40 | xingu | litage: try psmouse "proto=any" module parameter |
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| 12:43.50 | Gnea | karmatronic: with a web browser? |
| 12:43.51 | abrotman | karmatronic: there's no other way to configure cups ? |
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| 12:44.09 | karmatronic | abrotman: well you can use /etc/cups/client.conf |
| 12:44.19 | karmatronic | abrotman: and set your printing server there |
| 12:44.34 | shay | win 1 |
| 12:44.49 | Gnea | remember that only localhost can configure cups - you'd have to add other hosts to be granted permission |
| 12:45.08 | satan_ | hark: command not found , and its not present in any menu |
| 12:45.11 | karmatronic | Gnea: i m accessing from localhost |
| 12:45.15 | abrotman | does the www interface start automagically ? |
| 12:45.19 | karmatronic | abrotman: no |
| 12:45.29 | karmatronic | abrotman: it hangs at connecting |
| 12:45.40 | karmatronic | abrotman: nmap doest find 631 port as opened |
| 12:45.41 | hark | satan_: depends, xscreensaver maybe or DPMS in xorg.conf |
| 12:45.53 | Gnea | karmatronic: try starting it |
| 12:45.54 | karmatronic | abrotman: but cups is installed .... |
| 12:46.00 | abrotman | karmatronic: restart it ? |
| 12:46.02 | abrotman | the daemon |
| 12:46.08 | karmatronic | already did |
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| 12:46.13 | zophy | who offers the least expensive linux virtual server for a monthly plan ? |
| 12:46.23 | tompaw | hi |
| 12:46.59 | tompaw | Can you help me please with gettext? It doesn't work, even though I set the path to .mo files manually, and the actual file is there. |
| 12:47.01 | Gnea | zophy: not sure.... but whatever you do, stay away from connect1 |
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| 12:47.15 | zophy | ok |
| 12:47.27 | abrotman | karmatronic: can you run it interactively ? |
| 12:47.35 | abrotman | or attempt to |
| 12:47.44 | litage_ | xingu: where would i use psmouse "proto=any" ? |
| 12:48.14 | karmatronic | abrotman: doesnt work either with lpadmin |
| 12:48.25 | karmatronic | abrotman: i get a message like , cant connect to server |
| 12:48.38 | abrotman | karmatronic: server being cups or the other box ? |
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| 12:48.49 | liable | litage_: gpm.conf rings a bell |
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| 12:48.49 | Gryflhase | ree |
| 12:49.07 | Gryflhase | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.08 | xingu | litage_: echo "options psmouse proto=any" > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse |
| 12:49.15 | karmatronic | abrotman: the other box |
| 12:49.20 | Gryflhase | are this 4 kbyte ? :) |
| 12:49.34 | abrotman | karmatronic: if you nmap the other box .. do you see anyhting ? |
| 12:49.44 | karmatronic | abrotman: the only thing i m seeing is i dont have cupsys-bsd on the laptop |
| 12:49.59 | abrotman | karmatronic: that might be important |
| 12:50.14 | zignig | abrotman: everything is important.... :P |
| 12:50.24 | abrotman | zignig: not everything |
| 12:50.44 | zignig | really like what? |
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| 12:51.30 | karmatronic | abrotman: wasnt that ... |
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| 12:51.30 | abrotman | zignig: coffee |
| 12:51.45 | abrotman | karmatronic: i vote for configure it by hand :) |
| 12:52.00 | zignig | wrong .... coffee is probably the single driving factor in the western world. |
| 12:52.14 | zignig | apart from the cocaine driving wall st ..... :P |
| 12:52.25 | liable | or beer in .au |
| 12:52.37 | zignig | liable: maaaaaaaaaaaaaate. |
| 12:52.56 | liable | throw another shrimp on the barbie |
| 12:53.00 | karmatronic | abrotman: :) |
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| 12:53.20 | abrotman | zignig: i don't drink coffee .. not important to me |
| 12:53.37 | zignig | but important to someone..... |
| 12:53.41 | defcon8 | alkaloids are good! |
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| 12:55.24 | satan_ | if i find a bug in a pkg , whom should i report to , pkg-maintainer or some central bug repository , plz guide |
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| 12:56.06 | zignig | satan_: there are two programs you want , querybts <packagename> . to see it there is a bug alreasy. |
| 12:56.12 | zignig | *already |
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| 12:56.17 | zoghome2 | satan_: I just type reportbug and it emails a bug thingy for me |
| 12:56.31 | zignig | and reportbug. |
| 12:56.45 | abrotman | m0hax: STOP |
| 12:56.49 | m0hax | ? |
| 12:56.55 | abrotman | are you done changing nicks ? |
| 12:56.59 | m0hax | i havent changed for about 30 mins |
| 12:56.59 | m0hax | yeah |
| 12:57.00 | m0hax | course |
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| 12:57.11 | m0hax | yarr |
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| 12:59.01 | karmatronic | abrotman: that s weird cos cups is definitely listening on port 631 |
| 12:59.18 | abrotman | karmatronic: how are you trying to connect? |
| 12:59.34 | karmatronic | abrotman: by the web interface |
| 12:59.41 | abrotman | URL? |
| 12:59.55 | karmatronic | abrotman: http://127.0.0.1:631 |
| 13:00.01 | abrotman | as in .. http://localhost:631/ right ? |
| 13:00.09 | karmatronic | abrotman: right |
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| 13:00.16 | abrotman | god damn printers suck |
| 13:00.32 | karmatronic | abrotman: also used netstat to check port 631 was listening |
| 13:00.40 | I-kido | abrotman whatch ur fucking language |
| 13:00.41 | abrotman | "CUPS is the answer .. it will solve all your problems" |
| 13:00.49 | zignig | abrotman: oh yes, I had one burst into flames once. |
| 13:00.51 | abrotman | !tell I-kido about ur |
| 13:00.51 | karmatronic | stopped cupsys,run nc to check i could access this port |
| 13:01.10 | abrotman | karmatronic: is there anything on the other side ? |
| 13:01.10 | karmatronic | abrotman: cups is cool |
| 13:01.18 | karmatronic | abrotman: when it works :) |
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| 13:01.28 | karmatronic | abrotman: dont get your question ... |
| 13:01.30 | abrotman | karmatronic: no firewall on thelaptop ? |
| 13:01.30 | Redhatter | I-kido, Why is "ur" having sexual intercourse with "language"? |
| 13:01.43 | karmatronic | abrotman: yes there s a firewall |
| 13:01.46 | RAk | hey all |
| 13:01.50 | I-kido | hey ni didnt start |
| 13:01.59 | karmatronic | abrotman: but i m accessing cups on the laptop |
| 13:02.00 | abrotman | karmatronic: did you allow 631 access ? |
| 13:02.09 | RAk | anybody uses dovecot deliver and cmusieve for mail delivery ? |
| 13:02.11 | karmatronic | yes |
| 13:02.11 | abrotman | karmatronic: i meant a firewall on the laptop :) |
| 13:02.39 | abrotman | you don't connect to the remove on 631 |
| 13:02.41 | abrotman | remote |
| 13:02.42 | karmatronic | abrotman: the firewall on the laptop allows local connection to most ports |
| 13:02.50 | abrotman | most? |
| 13:02.56 | karmatronic | any |
| 13:03.04 | RAk | I wrote a sieve rule, which I think is correct, but dovecot deliver is not considering it |
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| 13:07.08 | freetos | does anybody know how to get etch? |
| 13:07.30 | RAk | freetos: download it from debian.org or some mirror |
| 13:07.46 | sidjster | how to get etch |
| 13:07.51 | sidjster | ? |
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| 13:08.17 | freetos | i've got an debian-31r4-i386-netinstall.iso, but it's not etch i don't think |
| 13:08.32 | sidjster | what is this etch you speak about |
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| 13:08.53 | HymnToLife | !etch |
| 13:08.53 | dpkg | well, etch is the codename for Debian 4.0, the release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 13:09.15 | freetos | dpkg, thanxs |
| 13:09.16 | dpkg | freetos: sure thing |
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| 13:12.34 | ranpha | ifireball : got it. You need to make the .rtorrent.rc file first...then it's a walk in the park |
| 13:12.39 | abrotman | !tell freetos about sarge->etch |
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| 13:13.28 | freetos | i've got an emt64 but i still use 32bit code, the test results i've seen show 32bit faster |
| 13:13.35 | ifireball | ranpha: good to hear that, is rtorrent really worth the truble? (never tried it, I use bittornado) |
| 13:14.24 | ranpha | ifireball : Dunno. i running it of a NSLU2 so no GUI there. Normally i use wine with utorrent. tried mldonkey but i missed a lot of info and didn't work properly (ithink) |
| 13:15.05 | freetos | does anybody know when debian 4.0 will come out of testing? |
| 13:15.10 | ranpha | ifireball: rtorrent is btw especcialy made for low powered systems so..it's good for me then. Now to fins a irc DCC/Xdcc program for command line |
| 13:15.14 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 13:15.14 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00001.html ; Etch is currently frozen. For details about what this means, read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00004.html |
| 13:16.18 | ifireball | ranpha: xchat-text+screen might do the trick |
| 13:16.33 | waspius | how can i set up my sound card cause i have no sound on my system |
| 13:16.36 | ranpha | ifireball : i heard it. starting to explore it now |
| 13:17.18 | karmatronic | abrotman: ok i think i solved it |
| 13:17.43 | abrotman | karmatronic: ? |
| 13:17.52 | karmatronic | abrotman: my printer s problem |
| 13:17.58 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:18.01 | karmatronic | abrotman: it was stupid |
| 13:18.03 | abrotman | waspius: uname -a |
| 13:18.07 | abrotman | show us |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | karmatronic: it is ? |
| 13:18.23 | karmatronic | abrotman: cupsd.conf as configured by default with admin group lpadmin |
| 13:18.41 | ranpha | ifireball for xchat-text i need to get th whole xchat package? |
| 13:18.48 | waspius | abrotman: 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:19.01 | abrotman | !tell waspius about alsa one-liner |
| 13:19.07 | waspius | thanx |
| 13:19.24 | abrotman | ranpha: if you want a text IRC client .. use irssi |
| 13:19.29 | ifireball | ranpha: only xchat-common it seems what does apt-egt tell you? |
| 13:19.37 | ifireball | apt-get* |
| 13:19.51 | xand | s/a text/an/ |
| 13:19.59 | ranpha | abrotman : does it support DDC/XDCC? |
| 13:20.21 | ifireball | no irssi on sarge :( |
| 13:20.52 | ranpha | ifireball : give a whole range of package (for the GUI with is useless) and xchat-common and xchat package |
| 13:21.00 | abrotman | ranpha: i'm sure it does |
| 13:21.11 | abrotman | ifireball: irssi-text .. try apt-cache search irssi next time |
| 13:21.18 | ifireball | ranpha: no xchat-text package? |
| 13:21.27 | ranpha | ifireball: nope |
| 13:21.30 | abrotman | !info irssi-text sarge |
| 13:21.35 | dpkg | irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 807 kB, Installed size: 2456 kB |
| 13:21.46 | ranpha | btw using etch here |
| 13:21.53 | abrotman | it's in etch too |
| 13:22.25 | ifireball | abrotman: right, there it is, mybe I mistyped something |
| 13:22.25 | Spliffster | i need some help with autofs. the root directory of an autofs map should be, an already mounted, nfs share. this dioesn't work for me (sarge). is this by design (ie. am i doing something stupid) or is this a configuration "problem" ? |
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| 13:22.26 | abrotman | karmatronic: so all figured out ? |
| 13:22.31 | Spliffster | oh, i cannot find any errors in the logs about it |
| 13:23.08 | karmatronic | abrotman: well i still cannot access the web interface |
| 13:23.23 | abrotman | karmatronic: does the printer work? :) |
| 13:23.24 | karmatronic | abrotman: but i can use gnome printing applet |
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| 13:23.34 | ifireball | Spliffster: afaik the autofs map root is never mounted, do note that doing "ls" there will usually give you nothing |
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| 13:23.38 | abrotman | karmatronic: i'd consider that a win! :) |
| 13:23.58 | karmatronic | abrotman: i m adding my regular user to the lpadmin group |
| 13:24.08 | abrotman | ok |
| 13:24.10 | karmatronic | abrotman: and gonna check if it does the trick for the web interface |
| 13:24.11 | ifireball | Spliffster: you need to enter or "ls" a specific entry to get it to mount |
| 13:25.36 | Spliffster | ifireball: that's right. in my situation i try to automount projects from various servers into /home/project. /home is an nfs share tiself, mounted via fstab. if i do ls /home/project nothing is shown. if i do mount | grep project, nothing is found. if i set the map's root mount point to /net (an empty directory) everything works as expected |
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| 13:26.54 | sidjster | ok why cant i boot from cd |
| 13:27.23 | Spliffster | so is it a stupid idea to use an nfs directory as roof for autofs ? |
| 13:27.41 | ifireball | Spliffster: is /home a share or a mountpoint? can you mount autofs on say /home/youruser/mnt ? |
| 13:28.53 | Spliffster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:30.18 | ifireball | If I understand correctly you're trying to mount 2 things on the same point, e.g. the home share and the autofs map, that may be possible with something like unionfs |
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| 13:31.19 | Spliffster | ma fstab: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4173, my auto.master http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4174, my auto.home http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4175 |
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| 13:31.49 | Spliffster | ifireball: yes this is correct, never seen it that way eho |
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| 13:32.16 | Spliffster | as it looks like, i am trying to mount an nfs share unter /home and the /home is (should) also be used as autofs map root |
| 13:32.47 | ifireball | Spliffster: you can mount the home dirs with autofs as well, its more scalable that way (can have different users' homes on different machines) |
| 13:33.00 | Spliffster | oh |
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| 13:33.28 | Spliffster | would i have to add every single user's home to the mapfile or can this be doen automaticly ? |
| 13:33.37 | Spliffster | just need to know if it's possible |
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| 13:35.02 | ifireball | Spliffster: you'll need every single user's home there, that map can be cerated with a rather simple script |
| 13:35.32 | ifireball | Spliffster: you can also try using an executable map if you really want to get your automagick up... |
| 13:35.52 | Spliffster | oooh, it's scriptable ? that's all i need to know. ty |
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| 13:36.53 | Spliffster | ifireball: all the users i need to support can be fetched from a nis map ... that's great |
| 13:38.00 | ifireball | Spliffster: oh yeah, right there's that... in fact the home map can be fatched from nis as well... (it that is practically how most big unix networks I've seen are built) |
| 13:38.29 | ifireball | though I'd recommand agains NIS in this day and age |
| 13:38.35 | ifireball | against* |
| 13:38.51 | Spliffster | ifireball: i'll have to read this up. sounds more like a nis problem. i am planning to migrate to ldap+krb5 however |
| 13:39.22 | ifireball | autofs can read the maps from ldap as well |
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| 13:41.05 | simonrvn | Spliffster: do so asap |
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| 13:41.22 | simonrvn | learn it first otherwise it'll hurt |
| 13:41.24 | moveax | how can I see what shells I have available? |
| 13:41.28 | Spliffster | ifireball: ok this is great. i need to set this up step by step. starting wirh many new(to me) technologies like autofs, ldap, krb5, ntp, nfs ... to not get stuck i'd prolly be better off trying one after another :D thanks for all the hel. i think i know now which way to go |
| 13:41.42 | simonrvn | moveax: ls /bin/*sh |
| 13:41.48 | ifireball | Spliffster: good luck! |
| 13:42.06 | Spliffster | ty! |
| 13:42.44 | moveax | simonrvn: nice one, cheers |
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| 13:43.44 | abrotman | !tell root____ about root |
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| 13:46.21 | simonrvn | ignorance breeds danger... |
| 13:46.21 | HardDisk_WP | hi |
| 13:46.26 | HardDisk_WP | does a program exist for freating electrical circuit diagrams? |
| 13:46.34 | abrotman | simonrvn: it could just breed more ignorance |
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| 13:46.40 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: geda and/or xcircuit |
| 13:46.44 | josegd | hola buenas |
| 13:46.46 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 13:46.49 | abrotman | !es |
| 13:46.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:47.41 | HardDisk_WP | !de |
| 13:47.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
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| 13:51.29 | freetos | etch's memory requirement more than sarge's? |
| 13:52.07 | abrotman | shouldn't be |
| 13:52.11 | abrotman | howmuch ram do you have ? |
| 13:52.23 | freetos | 512 but i like light |
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| 13:53.36 | abrotman | yeah .. the *minimum* is 24MB .. low enough ? |
| 13:54.06 | freetos | 24 isn't bad |
| 13:54.14 | freetos | for etch? |
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| 13:55.04 | xand | why does "ls" show the contents of symlinked directories, but "ls -l" does the same as "ls -ld"? |
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| 13:55.15 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 13:57.25 | ifireball | xand: more often the not that seems to be what one wants, maybe its changable with one variable or another |
| 13:57.49 | xand | but it's inconsistent and not what the man page says |
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| 13:59.14 | simonrvn | then it's either a bug, or the manual is wrong |
| 13:59.23 | ifireball | what exaclly are you doing there? comparing "ls a" vs "ls -l a" where a is a dir symlink or are you doing "ls *" vs "ls -l" ? |
| 13:59.30 | xand | ls vs ls -l |
| 13:59.46 | xand | former shows contents, latter shows the same as ls -ld |
| 14:00.19 | ifireball | xand: when you're inside a dir symlink? |
| 14:00.23 | xand | no |
| 14:01.00 | xand | /home is a symlink to elsewhere; ls /home shows the contents of it, but ls -l /home shows where the symlink points |
| 14:01.18 | ifireball | I see. |
| 14:01.45 | xand | ls -l should show the contents of /home |
| 14:02.37 | freetos | is there a way to search debian repos for package names? |
| 14:02.43 | jetscreamer | use the no-dereference flag or something |
| 14:02.57 | jetscreamer | freetos: apt-cache search perhaps |
| 14:02.57 | xand | freetos: apt-cache search |
| 14:02.58 | ifireball | xand: well, like I said, for me, this is more often then not, exactly what I want, but maybe it's configurabel with POSIXLY_CORRECT/etc. |
| 14:03.24 | xand | ifireball: I disagree... if I wanted to see the output of -ld I'd type that. |
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| 14:03.37 | xand | -l should show the contents |
| 14:03.42 | simonrvn | xand: add a / on the end |
| 14:03.48 | simonrvn | ls -l /home/ |
| 14:03.52 | xand | I know that works, but it's not the point |
| 14:03.56 | simonrvn | you'll get what you want |
| 14:04.08 | xand | it shouldn't do what it does |
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| 14:04.17 | simonrvn | it's a symlink |
| 14:04.27 | xand | yes... |
| 14:04.51 | jetscreamer | not a directory |
| 14:04.52 | xand | but I don't see why specifying -l should alter what is listed, only how |
| 14:04.58 | parsonsd_ | *sigh*. another failure at defining routes. |
| 14:05.04 | simonrvn | the point is it's not a directory file, it's a symbolic link file, they get different treatment |
| 14:05.10 | xand | why does "ls" show the contents then? |
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| 14:05.45 | ifireball | xand: that is completly a matter of taste, and tredition, and you can easily work around it so there is little point in arguing about this |
| 14:05.47 | simonrvn | because you're not requesting long output, just file names |
| 14:05.52 | simonrvn | tradition |
| 14:06.04 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 14:06.07 | xand | well, it's stupid |
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| 14:06.49 | jetscreamer | ls -l /usr/local/games gives me the contents... and it's a symlink |
| 14:07.14 | simonrvn | probably fixed bug then, or something else is going on |
| 14:07.22 | ifireball | xand: think if it this way, "ls mysymlink" is useless if all you get is the symlink's name, so they gave you a little shortcut, however "ls -l mysymlink" is useful cause you can see when the link points to |
| 14:07.35 | simonrvn | what's your coreutils version jetscreamer? |
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| 14:07.47 | xand | ifireball: I don't think it's useful... that's what -d is for |
| 14:07.51 | jetscreamer | uh... uh.... the latest sid one... |
| 14:07.55 | simonrvn | ok |
| 14:08.11 | xand | I get the same behaviour on etch and a solaris box |
| 14:08.26 | simonrvn | ok |
| 14:08.46 | simonrvn | merits a code looksee, but i'm too tired to do that |
| 14:08.54 | freetos | ls -al |
| 14:09.24 | jetscreamer | gd i can't get it to show me the symlink path :) |
| 14:09.31 | simonrvn | import random |
| 14:09.39 | xand | my /usr/local/games isn't a symlink |
| 14:09.39 | parsonsd_ | should they have the same behaviour with a bsd box? |
| 14:09.45 | jetscreamer | xand: mine is |
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| 14:10.04 | simonrvn | random.randint(-2**19937-1,2**19937-1) |
| 14:10.07 | ifireball | xand: if you want to be totally consistant you'd have ls always act like "ls -d" unless you append "/" to the filename, but that wouldn't be comfortable now would it? |
| 14:10.24 | jetscreamer | wtf zomg |
| 14:10.29 | xand | maybe |
| 14:10.34 | jetscreamer | ignore what i said, even though it's all true |
| 14:10.37 | simonrvn | python |
| 14:11.05 | xand | jetscreamer: what do you want us to say? |
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| 14:11.21 | simonrvn | xand: "aaah" |
| 14:12.26 | jetscreamer | oh ah nm |
| 14:12.33 | ifireball | xand: the thing is someone probably hacked ls like, 25 years ago to act like that beacuse it proved more useful that way in the more commo cases, just blindly following consistancy doesn't always yield a moer useable UI |
| 14:12.36 | jetscreamer | i'm stupid. i mount it there, it's not a symlink |
| 14:12.37 | parsonsd_ | aaah |
| 14:12.47 | simonrvn | parsonsd_: there ya go hehehe |
| 14:12.48 | jetscreamer | docs is the symlink |
| 14:12.57 | parsonsd_ | simonrvn |
| 14:12.58 | xand | ifireball: I think it's less useful |
| 14:13.02 | parsonsd_ | simonrvn, np |
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| 14:13.20 | parsonsd_ | simonrvn, also cos i'm having serious issues setting up static routes. |
| 14:13.31 | parsonsd_ | route is driving me nuts |
| 14:13.34 | simonrvn | xand: well that's a matter of opinion, deal |
| 14:13.40 | jetscreamer | ok i'm up2speed now. i suck. |
| 14:13.43 | ranpha_ | ifireball : irssi is a bit to complicated (irc already is enough) isn't there a IRC program with a webgui? |
| 14:13.46 | simonrvn | parsonsd_: oh heh :/ |
| 14:13.48 | ifireball | xand: then you're free to change it with a number of tools, including aliases, environment and bash settings |
| 14:13.53 | parsonsd_ | jetscreamer, that's leading |
| 14:13.55 | simonrvn | good luck with that |
| 14:13.59 | jetscreamer | ranpha_: xchat |
| 14:14.00 | xand | ifireball: I'll edit the source instead :P |
| 14:14.10 | parsonsd_ | simonrvn, it was an opportune moment |
| 14:14.11 | jetscreamer | oh webgui no idea |
| 14:14.16 | xand | cgi-irc |
| 14:14.25 | ranpha_ | jetscreamer : xchat has a daemon with a webgui? |
| 14:14.25 | simonrvn | easier to change it for *your* usage via what ifireball sais |
| 14:14.32 | simonrvn | parsonsd_: indeed :) |
| 14:14.33 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 14:14.38 | simonrvn | d |
| 14:14.41 | ifireball | xand: i'd say go for it if I didn't think someone probably already did that |
| 14:14.51 | ranpha_ | jetscreamer : lol |
| 14:15.01 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: g'night dude |
| 14:15.18 | jetscreamer | i'm still waiting for my coffee.. yeah that's it.... (/me slept like 7 hours already |
| 14:15.24 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 14:15.29 | jetscreamer | i drank a whole two beers and passed out last night |
| 14:15.41 | abrotman | lush! |
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| 14:16.31 | simonrvn | i'd pass out on one if i drank a beer... |
| 14:16.55 | jetscreamer | yeh me i usually might drink once or twice every year or two |
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| 14:17.34 | jetscreamer | that's down from every day or 4 |
| 14:17.51 | simonrvn | i haven't drunk for years |
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| 14:19.49 | abrotman | you should start! |
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| 14:20.00 | benkong2 | hey all |
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| 14:20.50 | benkong2 | got a question about xen. If I install xen-i386 won't boot but if I install xen-k7 it boots. Can hypervisor-i386 be used with xen-k7? |
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| 14:21.18 | simonrvn | othewise i'll dehydrate :P |
| 14:23.34 | abrotman | !beer m-a |
| 14:23.46 | cahoot | a litre? |
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| 14:24.33 | litage_ | i'm configuring the touchpad on my laptop using synaptics' synclient. i've found some good values for many settings, and have put those values into what i think is the appropriate section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf . however, when i restart X, those settings aren't in place |
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| 14:28.55 | abrotman | cahoot: it's a measurement the rest of the world uses |
| 14:29.39 | cahoot | abrotman: was just contemplating the large amount for poor m-a |
| 14:29.58 | abrotman | deserves it! |
| 14:30.14 | cahoot | suppose he'll piss off |
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| 14:33.08 | Good_Day | i hve problem installing debian 3.1r1 sarge having SATA harddrive i hve also tried linux26 but still in vain |
| 14:33.23 | Good_Day | any idea please.its Seagate SATA harddrive. |
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| 14:33.37 | Good_Day | and Athlon 3000= with asus motherboard. |
| 14:33.58 | cahoot | Good_Day: I think you need an eth install |
| 14:34.09 | cahoot | Good_Day: err - etch |
| 14:34.14 | h3sp4wn | Good_Day: Try etch or sarge with a later kernel (/msg dpkg sarge 2.6.18 or so) |
| 14:35.09 | Good_Day | h3sp4wn: can you please let me know how to install kernel with 2.6.18 in 3.1r1 sarge.. or i need to update sarge. |
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| 14:36.03 | jetscreamer | Good_Day: you /msg the bot |
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| 14:36.13 | jetscreamer | !tell Good_Day -about sarge 2.6.18 |
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| 14:36.32 | jetscreamer | !tell Good_Day -about d-i |
| 14:36.59 | jetscreamer | Good_Day: if this is not for a server you would 'probably' be happier with etch |
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| 14:37.38 | sidjster | had to swap friggin cd roms power line got hit by a garbage truck fryed my shit |
| 14:37.54 | Good_Day | thanx a lot looking the links provided by dpkg |
| 14:37.55 | dpkg | Good_Day: no worries |
| 14:38.16 | mumperer | Hi :) |
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| 14:42.38 | nan | apt-get install packages cannot be authenticated. what to do? |
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| 14:43.39 | nan | !ask me about etch key |
| 14:43.43 | abrotman | apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-get update |
| 14:44.04 | jetscreamer | !tell nan -about etch key |
| 14:44.04 | nan | abrotman, done that. |
| 14:44.05 | abrotman | both ? |
| 14:44.16 | nan | yeah, from the dpkg. |
| 14:44.27 | jetscreamer | nan: it would either be !tell me (weird) or just /msg dpkg etch key |
| 14:44.52 | jetscreamer | !greet derek |
| 14:44.52 | dpkg | Tag, derek |
| 14:45.00 | jetscreamer | ~greet derek |
| 14:45.02 | apt | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on derek |
| 14:45.06 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 14:46.01 | jetscreamer | you need to do the gpg --importthingy or something |
| 14:46.36 | abrotman | nan: which key? |
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| 14:47.00 | nan | jetscreamer: sounds familiar. where to get the exact info? |
| 14:47.12 | jetscreamer | nan: i thought it was in that factoid |
| 14:47.23 | jetscreamer | !apt-key |
| 14:47.29 | jetscreamer | !apt key |
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| 14:47.31 | abrotman | you need a key .. which is why i asked for it |
| 14:47.43 | nan | jetscreamer, i think this is it. |
| 14:47.46 | jetscreamer | !lart don |
| 14:47.56 | nan | abrotman, i don't know. |
| 14:48.01 | abrotman | it tells you? |
| 14:48.06 | abrotman | !paster |
| 14:48.06 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 14:48.23 | jetscreamer | nan: btw you can just say ok or y and it will use the sources |
| 14:48.25 | xand | did someone not read the topic? |
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| 14:48.59 | nan | Get:1 http://mirror.peer1.net etch Release.gpg [189B] |
| 14:48.59 | nan | Hit http://mirror.peer1.net etch Release |
| 14:49.00 | nan | Err http://mirror.peer1.net etch Release |
| 14:49.14 | nan | consistently getting the above error. |
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| 14:50.44 | hark | nan: try another mirror? |
| 14:50.51 | abrotman | nan: paste the whole thing |
| 14:50.52 | abrotman | !paster |
| 14:50.53 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 14:50.56 | nan | jetscreamer, get nothing fr apt-key. |
| 14:51.21 | abrotman | because it needs a key |
| 14:51.26 | abrotman | i already said that ... |
| 14:51.42 | jetscreamer | !no public key |
| 14:51.42 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. |
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| 14:51.55 | abrotman | or he could actually SHOW us the error .. |
| 14:51.55 | jetscreamer | !2006 key |
| 14:51.56 | dpkg | i guess 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 14:52.02 | jetscreamer | ah that one |
| 14:52.13 | abrotman | jetscreamer: that's already done if he installed debian-archive-keyring |
| 14:52.31 | abrotman | especially considering it's 2007 :) |
| 14:52.32 | jetscreamer | i was just looking for the commands.... |
| 14:52.39 | abrotman | jetscreamer: IT NEEDS A KEY! |
| 14:52.41 | jetscreamer | !marillat key |
| 14:52.42 | dpkg | For apt >= 0.6, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907> |
| 14:52.48 | jetscreamer | actually |
| 14:52.52 | abrotman | AND HE WON'T GIVE US ONE! |
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| 14:53.11 | jetscreamer | you can copy the output from apt/dpkg, and there's a site you can look them up at |
| 14:53.24 | jetscreamer | i did it once but i forget where |
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| 14:54.23 | nan | abrotman, pasted in http://channels.debian.net/paste/5482. |
| 14:54.49 | abrotman | how is that an error ? |
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| 14:55.05 | nan | abrotman, it says error. |
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| 14:55.20 | nan | err |
| 14:55.20 | hark | heh |
| 14:55.26 | abrotman | it says Ign ... |
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| 14:55.51 | bony | can any one help me out with this problem. I can't get bcm4318 working. dmesg | grep bcm output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7362/ |
| 14:56.03 | Muisje | bony? try #ubuntu |
| 14:56.04 | bzed | nan: sounds liek you want to use some serious mirror ;) |
| 14:56.10 | nan | but when i install or upgrade, it still ask if i want verification. |
| 14:56.16 | bony | Muisje, i am using debian etch |
| 14:56.21 | Muisje | oh ok. lol |
| 14:56.21 | abrotman | nan: THAT is the error i want to see |
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| 14:56.38 | Muisje | Why are you using the ubuntu pastebin bony? |
| 14:56.44 | nan | abrotman, hangon there. |
| 14:57.09 | bony | Muisje, cause i think it is the fastest that i found |
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| 14:57.14 | abrotman | !paster |
| 14:57.14 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 14:58.15 | Muisje | abrotman, wouldn't that be begging for spam? |
| 14:58.19 | bony | i will check those pastebins |
| 14:58.20 | nan | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!....Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 14:58.24 | abrotman | Muisje: spam ? |
| 14:58.30 | abrotman | nan: i need the actual key :) |
| 14:58.31 | Muisje | i'll make an example hold on |
| 14:58.36 | abrotman | nan: paste the whole thing |
| 14:59.03 | Muisje | Ok, it doesn't actually post the url here :) |
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| 14:59.09 | nan | abrotman, no key displayed. |
| 14:59.11 | abrotman | Muisje: it used to |
| 14:59.11 | Crissi | hello |
| 14:59.15 | abrotman | nan: paste the whole thing please |
| 14:59.20 | abrotman | Muisje: it did get abused |
| 14:59.21 | Muisje | disabled because of spam abrotman? :) |
| 14:59.30 | abrotman | Muisje: GNAA bastards abused it |
| 14:59.40 | Muisje | abrotman, hehe |
| 14:59.48 | xand | use a captcha on it! |
| 14:59.48 | Crissi | whats about the http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi driver? i think it should be included in t(not released yet) etch |
| 14:59.57 | Good_Day | etch is debian 3.1 r5 ? |
| 15:00.01 | Muisje | I don't like the GNAA, although officially i'm still a member of theirs... but i'm good. ;) |
| 15:00.05 | Crissi | Good_Day: no |
| 15:00.08 | Crissi | 4.0 |
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| 15:01.03 | Muisje | They used to be much more fun, these days they are all crappy and doing activities which i think isn't what i expected of the GNAA. |
| 15:01.07 | Good_Day | from here after clicking jidgo link i get 3.1r5 not 4.0 to download http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 15:01.27 | xand | Good_Day: because etch isn't out yet |
| 15:01.33 | xand | 3.1 is the current release |
| 15:02.02 | jetscreamer | !tell Good_Day -about d-i |
| 15:02.08 | bzed | Good_Day: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ << get an etch installer here. |
| 15:02.17 | nan | abrotman, the whole thing in http://channels.debian.net/paste/5484. |
| 15:02.18 | Good_Day | ohh.. okey.. so does 3.1r5 will support my SATA drive or i have to use 3.1r4 |
| 15:02.33 | Muisje | Try and find out Good_Day |
| 15:02.54 | Good_Day | hum.. Muisje.. you are very correct.. |
| 15:02.59 | dromer | how can I use a personal 404-page? |
| 15:03.02 | abrotman | nan: then just say 'y' |
| 15:03.04 | jetscreamer | Good_Day: probably won't.. you either need the sarge installer with a later kernel, or etch |
| 15:03.07 | abrotman | normally it shows a key |
| 15:03.13 | Muisje | Good_Day, usually if r4 supports it, r5 will too... |
| 15:03.31 | jetscreamer | dromer: you probably mean custom or personalized |
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| 15:03.57 | nan | abrotman, sure, but is it safe? |
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| 15:04.26 | dromer | jetscreamer: sure, what ever words you think are best ;) |
| 15:04.28 | jetscreamer | nan: yes it is... (and i told you just say y about 5 minutes ago |
| 15:04.29 | Ronin | dromer: and a simple search on google will tell you how to do it |
| 15:04.42 | nan | abrotman, in that case, why would the system wants to prompt for verification? |
| 15:04.43 | dromer | Ronin: I've done that before, didn't work |
| 15:04.46 | abrotman | nan: apt-get update or aptitude update doesn't show a message with a 246525BE2342 etc key ? |
| 15:04.47 | cahoot | dromer: there are some examples in the apache conf |
| 15:04.53 | jetscreamer | dromer: no idea though, i've never done apache |
| 15:04.56 | abrotman | nan: because you're supposed to have the key |
| 15:05.16 | nan | abrotman, and where am i suppose to get it? |
| 15:05.24 | hark | nan: try another mirror |
| 15:05.26 | jetscreamer | nan: the error may get fixed by the upgrade... find out. (not sure) |
| 15:05.29 | abrotman | nan: debian-archive-keyring :) |
| 15:05.36 | Good_Day | thanx a lot.. to all |
| 15:05.43 | Good_Day | have a Good day ahead.. |
| 15:05.44 | nan | we are going round and round. |
| 15:05.54 | jetscreamer | nan: yes if you trust your /etc/apt/sources.list , it is safe |
| 15:06.08 | jetscreamer | well... you know what i mean |
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| 15:06.22 | dav_ | elo |
| 15:06.31 | bzed | nan: why don't you use ftp.COUNTRYCODE.debian.org |
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| 15:06.46 | bzed | nan: replace countrycode wy the right one for your country |
| 15:06.52 | bzed | nan: like ftp.de.debian.org |
| 15:07.16 | nan | hank, bzed, i was using the standard debian repo in the US. same problem. |
| 15:07.17 | abrotman | bzed: not every country has one |
| 15:07.38 | abrotman | nan: lets put it this way .. it's just as safe as before secure-apt :) |
| 15:07.53 | dav_ | on my debian, the resolv.conf file is changed at boot time... how can i resolv that problem inorder to have all the time nameserver 127.0.0.1, on the header it is said that the file is changed by NetworkManager |
| 15:07.58 | dav_ | i can't find that tool |
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| 15:08.52 | jetscreamer | ah i have that networkmanager thingy |
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| 15:08.56 | jetscreamer | err hate |
| 15:08.58 | jetscreamer | hate |
| 15:09.01 | moveax | Hmm, I did an update to etch and now any ssh logins require a public key? I don't remember asking for this, how can I revert it back to good old username/password? |
| 15:09.09 | moveax | or how can I use this public key feature? |
| 15:09.26 | jetscreamer | it asked you, during the upgrade |
| 15:09.37 | moveax | yeah most of done |
| 15:09.40 | jetscreamer | 'maybe' dpkg-reconfigure openssh but i don't know |
| 15:09.41 | moveax | dammit |
| 15:09.42 | shining | moveax: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, PasswordAuthentification |
| 15:09.58 | jetscreamer | what he said is surely better than what i said |
| 15:09.58 | moveax | shining: just looking at that now, but isn't public key files more secure? |
| 15:10.01 | shining | moveax: and you can generate keys using ssh-keygen |
| 15:10.11 | shining | moveax: yes I think it's more secure |
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| 15:11.23 | bzed | moveax: it just amkes things more easy. and you ahve to enter your password only once, if you run ssh-add after you've logged in |
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| 15:11.50 | moveax | shining, bzed: OK well, I've generated a key, how do I make use of it? |
| 15:11.53 | Phuzion2 | How do I set my IP address to be static? |
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| 15:12.23 | jetscreamer | man 5 interfaces & edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:12.27 | parsonsd_ | Phuzion2 - /etc/hostname.if |
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| 15:12.55 | parsonsd_ | nevermind - listen to jetscreamer |
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| 15:13.32 | parsonsd_ | ok. stupid routing question, cos i'm still staring at it |
| 15:13.33 | bzed | moveax: your keys should be in ~/.ssh, called id_dsa / id_dsa.pub |
| 15:13.34 | Phuzion2 | thanks |
| 15:14.06 | moveax | bzed: yes, but how do I use them? When I try and login from a box on the same network, the conncetion closed after typing in the username |
| 15:14.36 | bzed | moveax: then add id_dsa.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the box you want to logon using the key |
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| 15:15.17 | moveax | bzed: OK, let me rephrase - How do I get that key onto the box I want to ssh from? :) |
| 15:15.29 | jetscreamer | cp? |
| 15:15.32 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 15:15.36 | waspius | hello can someone help me with fixing my sound on my system? |
| 15:15.37 | moveax | it's a windows box |
| 15:15.47 | bzed | moveax: you generate that key on the box you want to ssh FROM and put your public key on the box you want to ssh TO |
| 15:15.51 | jetscreamer | cp works with fat32 |
| 15:15.59 | jetscreamer | but i know nothing of keys |
| 15:16.09 | bzed | moveax: what's the windows box? the box you want to ssh from? |
| 15:16.15 | moveax | yes |
| 15:16.33 | bzed | moveax: I assume you're using putty, google for a tutorial, I know there is one |
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| 15:16.33 | abrotman | use putty and have it just add it ? |
| 15:16.56 | bzed | as far as I remember you have to do somethiong with the keys before putty accepts them |
| 15:16.58 | moveax | bzed: OKies |
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| 15:17.08 | bzed | but ... what is windows :P |
| 15:17.20 | waspius | anyone? |
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| 15:17.32 | parsonsd_ | eth0 & eth1, eth1 is default route out and is set by dhcp, eth0 should be set by dhcp as well, but it didn't come up during boot so i'm trying to set a static route. route add keeps nagging me with scioaddrt errors; and after editing /etc/network/interface to include "eth0 auto" ifup doesnt' ever find anything on eth0; i can ssh from another box into the gateway and see it is running dhcpd and ... *argh*! |
| 15:17.35 | bzed | !ask waspius |
| 15:17.36 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 15:17.37 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is based on debian. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu . Thanks :) |
| 15:17.40 | xand | waspius: dont ask meta questions |
| 15:17.50 | abrotman | waspius: are you in the audio group ? |
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| 15:18.02 | waspius | what audio group? |
| 15:18.10 | waspius | i installed debian and i have no sound |
| 15:18.10 | xand | the one in /etc/group |
| 15:18.28 | waspius | one sec |
| 15:18.36 | bzed | waspius: what's the output of id -a |
| 15:18.36 | cahoot | waspius: run 'id' as user - does audio show up? |
| 15:19.25 | parsonsd_ | moveax, putty will create keys for you, but there is (ooh, wow, i think) a putty-related keygen prg |
| 15:19.25 | Phuzion2 | How do I restart networking after I make changes? |
| 15:19.25 | waspius | waspius@DeBiAn:~$ id |
| 15:19.25 | waspius | uid=1000(waspius) gid=1000(waspius) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(waspius) |
| 15:19.33 | parsonsd_ | moveax, unless someone got you figured out already during my ranting diatribe |
| 15:19.40 | cahoot | waspius: sarge or etch? |
| 15:19.48 | waspius | dont know |
| 15:19.55 | waspius | 3.1 dvd i downloaded |
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| 15:20.07 | cahoot | waspius: does /proc/asound exist? |
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| 15:20.14 | parsonsd_ | waspius, `cat /etc/apt/sources.list` -- that should tell you |
| 15:20.36 | waspius | sarge |
| 15:20.39 | jetscreamer | Phuzion2: ifdown/ifup |
| 15:21.00 | waspius | cahoot: it does |
| 15:21.03 | Fahrenheit | Hello everybody, is it possible, with apt-proxy, to download every available package and to put them in the cache ? |
| 15:21.15 | Phuzion2 | jetscreamer, thanks |
| 15:21.19 | cahoot | waspius: so how did you test sound? |
| 15:21.23 | Xenguy | Fahrenheit: apt-mirror ? |
| 15:21.37 | abrotman | waspius: lspci .. do you see your audio device ? |
| 15:21.38 | Fahrenheit | Xenguy : ok |
| 15:21.38 | waspius | cahoot: i tried with a movie and nothing...no system sounds either |
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| 15:21.43 | Xenguy | Fahrenheit: (question mark cos I've never used it before myself) |
| 15:21.55 | cahoot | waspius: nevermind - install alsa-utils and run yes | aplay |
| 15:22.08 | waspius | ok thanx |
| 15:22.51 | parsonsd_ | waspius, my system comes with all the sounds off, and i don't know why - a quick check of gnome-volume-control adjusts it for me |
| 15:23.13 | waspius | cahoot: i did but nothing happened |
| 15:23.26 | cahoot | no error? |
| 15:23.46 | waspius | Playing raw data 'stdin' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono |
| 15:24.04 | cahoot | waspius: ok - start alsamixer - unmute as well as set levels |
| 15:24.55 | waspius | cahoot: still nothing |
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| 15:25.16 | cahoot | waspius: what card? |
| 15:25.40 | cahoot | waspius: some laptop with internal device? |
| 15:25.55 | waspius | i dont remember..it is on a laptop |
| 15:26.01 | waspius | yep |
| 15:26.10 | waspius | but on other distros it did work |
| 15:26.20 | waspius | and on ubuntu which is debian based |
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| 15:26.29 | cahoot | waspius: ok - when you run alsamixer pcm and master has == not mm at the bottom? |
| 15:26.36 | waspius | plus i have a problem i thing with the cdrom as well |
| 15:26.37 | cahoot | waspius: ok - when you run alsamixer pcm and master has 00 not mm at the bottom? |
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| 15:27.27 | waspius | 00 |
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| 15:27.39 | SLUTS | heyy every1 |
| 15:27.46 | dromer | hi, I'm trying to enable custom 404-pages using this guide: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/customerrors.htm but I don't have a .htaccess in my /var/www/ and I'm not sure if I can just blindly copy/paste the example of the .htaccess file |
| 15:28.05 | waspius | cahoot: master is 00 |
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| 15:28.22 | cahoot | waspius: that's as should be |
| 15:28.23 | archville | Hi. |
| 15:28.28 | sidjster | why is your name sluts? |
| 15:28.34 | abrotman | sidjster: please don't |
| 15:28.35 | parsonsd_ | dromer, you'll prolly need to edit it |
| 15:28.40 | waspius | cahoot: ok but for some reason still no sound :( |
| 15:28.43 | sidjster | sorry |
| 15:29.04 | abrotman | dromer: you have to create the file |
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| 15:29.17 | SLUTS | cuz i m |
| 15:29.20 | sidjster | where is stoned? |
| 15:29.23 | cahoot | waspius: not even with aplay I take it? |
| 15:29.36 | dromer | abrotman: but what has to be in it exactly? |
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| 15:29.43 | abrotman | dromer: it can be blank to start |
| 15:29.46 | waspius | cahoot: nothing..i dont even have system sounds |
| 15:30.10 | sidjster | dude vista is out be you can get some kick ass sound there |
| 15:30.12 | cahoot | waspius: does fuser -v /dev/snd/* return anything? |
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| 15:30.19 | sidjster | bet |
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| 15:30.41 | abrotman | sidjster: stop it |
| 15:30.44 | cahoot | waspius: or fuser -v /dev/dsp* |
| 15:30.52 | waspius | cahoot: |
| 15:30.52 | waspius | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.57 | waspius | /dev/snd/controlC0 waspius 3768 f.... kdeinit |
| 15:30.58 | waspius | /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p waspius 3748 f...m artsd |
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| 15:31.20 | sidjster | amn i cant even say anything :( |
| 15:31.24 | Phuzion2 | woohoo, got my webserver up and running |
| 15:31.28 | dromer | abrotman: ok, and for the custom 404 I need just to add ErrorDocument 404 /path_to_file ? |
| 15:31.37 | Phuzion2 | thanks for all the help, guys |
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| 15:31.50 | xand | waspius: dont paste in here |
| 15:31.58 | waspius | ok soz |
| 15:32.00 | limpio | hi all, yesterday i looked into a site that allows you to download and keep images under your name and password, but i can't remember the name, binkr.com? finkr.com? anybody knows? |
| 15:32.12 | cahoot | waspius: ok pkill artsd |
| 15:32.14 | xand | limpio: flickr |
| 15:32.15 | dromer | limpio: flicr |
| 15:32.20 | dromer | xand: ha, yeah that :P |
| 15:32.27 | limpio | hehe, thank you guys! |
| 15:32.33 | cahoot | waspius: then test sound again |
| 15:32.34 | waspius | cahoot: done |
| 15:32.49 | waspius | nothing |
| 15:33.21 | cahoot | waspius: you run kde? |
| 15:33.26 | waspius | yes |
| 15:33.40 | cahoot | waspius: open control center sound etc |
| 15:34.06 | waspius | cahoot: ok |
| 15:34.16 | waspius | cahoot: i tried the sound there also but nothing |
| 15:34.46 | waspius | cahoot: at the sound system hardware i have autodetect is that ok |
| 15:35.20 | SLUTS | _|_ |
| 15:35.36 | cahoot | waspius: personally I'd diable kde's sound server (artsd) |
| 15:35.39 | hark | waspius: try alsa if there's a choice there |
| 15:35.40 | sidjster | freakin me out |
| 15:35.42 | xerophyte | does anybody know which kernel section has acpi stuff ?? |
| 15:36.17 | waspius | cahoot: and how do i do that? |
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| 15:36.45 | cahoot | waspius: in the control center |
| 15:37.15 | sidjster | rebuilding database. this may take some time |
| 15:37.23 | sidjster | yes it will |
| 15:37.42 | dromer | abrotman: having a blank .htaccess with just ErrorDocument 404 /path_to_file is not working |
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| 15:37.49 | abrotman | HI |
| 15:37.58 | waspius | anyway thanx guys |
| 15:38.07 | abrotman | dromer: i've not done it .. but make sure that file is readable |
| 15:38.23 | dromer | ok |
| 15:38.47 | dromer | abrotman: chmod 744 ? |
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| 15:39.24 | abrotman | probably |
| 15:39.32 | dromer | hm, not working either :/ |
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| 15:40.27 | dromer | ah wait, restarting apache could work :P |
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| 15:41.45 | parsonsd_ | hm |
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| 15:42.07 | dromer | gah, not working either ;/ |
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| 15:45.36 | xand | !bts |
| 15:45.37 | dpkg | bts is probably the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 15:48.50 | dromer | hmm, strange, I now made the .htacces-file but when I do locate .htaccess I geta number of files, but not mine |
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| 15:49.09 | Ryushin | I haven't been keeping up on the news. I now debian was shooting of for a December release date and I know it's been delayed. Has there been any indications when it might ready for release? |
| 15:49.15 | freespace | you need to update your locatedb |
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| 15:49.19 | abrotman | dromer: updatedb |
| 15:49.38 | dromer | thnx |
| 15:49.55 | dromer | but thi file isn't working now anyway .. |
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| 15:52.52 | psyche__ | what is good stereo mixer for debian? |
| 15:53.16 | psyche__ | i have Envy24 sound card, and i need 6 channel sound for that |
| 15:54.11 | freetos | if i install testing etch, will i be able to upgrade to the official etch with one command? |
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| 15:54.15 | Plouj | hi |
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| 15:54.29 | Plouj | http://debian.yorku.ca seems to be down :* |
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| 15:54.32 | Plouj | :(* |
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| 15:57.06 | cahoot | psyche__: gamix has numerous controls |
| 15:57.07 | sidjster | there isnt even a command to upgrade to etch you just think it |
| 15:57.31 | abrotman | Plouj: use another mirror |
| 15:58.02 | psyche__ | cahoot thanks |
| 15:58.33 | sidjster | just think etch real hard its a new Psychokinesis package from debian |
| 15:58.53 | MatBoy | is there somewhere a 2.6 kernel image repo to find where the speed it set on 100Hz ? |
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| 16:00.29 | sidjster | lots of guns |
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| 16:00.38 | sidjster | matrix is a sweet movie |
| 16:00.41 | MatBoy | sidjster, you can buy them in Russia |
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| 16:02.10 | h3sp4wn | MatBoy: In the configuration ? |
| 16:02.25 | MatBoy | h3sp4wn, yes I ave to recompile it again than |
| 16:02.46 | MatBoy | *have |
| 16:03.00 | h3sp4wn | MatBoy: grep CONFIG_HZ /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 16:03.39 | h3sp4wn | MatBoy: CONFIG_HZ=1000 (or CONFIG_HZ=100 would be in your case) |
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| 16:04.03 | MatBoy | h3sp4wn, ok, but don;t I have to recompile my kernel in that case ? |
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| 16:04.55 | h3sp4wn | MatBoy: as far as I know there is no way to change that without recompiling (preempt makes more of a difference for a desktop though) |
| 16:05.24 | Codemeister | hello, I have a small question, I want to swithc to debian from windows, but I have a waterchill xternal cooling kit installed, will it work in debian? |
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| 16:06.00 | MatBoy | h3sp4wn, mhh that's pitty, this because of Vmware... you need 100Hz for it or your VM will use 15% cpu for nothing. 2.4 is not of these days anymore in my opinion |
| 16:06.28 | abrotman | Codemeister: does windows control it / |
| 16:06.29 | abrotman | ? |
| 16:06.59 | Codemeister | there is a control panel that controls fans and pump speed, yes |
| 16:07.08 | JonJ | If one needs to decompile firmware, what tools should one use? |
| 16:07.14 | abrotman | how does it connect to your system? usb ? |
| 16:07.19 | Codemeister | yes, usb |
| 16:07.27 | abrotman | Codemeister: i honestly have no idea .. |
| 16:07.29 | abrotman | !livecd |
| 16:07.29 | dpkg | it has been said that livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/ or http://live.debian.net/ or #debian-live on oftc |
| 16:07.42 | abrotman | Codemeister: maybe try that URL to get a liveCD to test a bit |
| 16:07.48 | abrotman | Codemeister: what happens if you can't control it ? |
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| 16:08.51 | Codemeister | I have no idea actually, I think it saves the last setting in memory somehow, but I have no idea how long it will stay |
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| 16:10.26 | Codemeister | Im a little confused, because when I check at different forums, people state in their "sig" they that are running "this and that linux distro", and "waterchill xternal" but I cant find any drivers for it to run under linux, and I dont want to try it when I dont know what will happen |
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| 16:12.09 | syntaxx | anyone know about login.conf passwordtime? im having problem in implementing it i put :passwordtime=60s:\ for testing and then i logged after a minute it doesnt seem to work any help? |
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| 16:12.17 | valdyn | Codemeister: why would a cooling kit need drivers? |
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| 16:12.41 | itrebal | what does it take to have Trac use enscript to syntax highlight? |
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| 16:13.03 | Codemeister | well, I dont think its as much a drivers as a controlpanel, it controls the different fan speeds, the lcd display, and the pump speed |
| 16:13.34 | Codemeister | it also shows temperatures and voltages and the likes |
| 16:13.39 | abrotman | itrebal: pipe it ? |
| 16:13.56 | itrebal | err |
| 16:14.02 | itrebal | nevermind :P |
| 16:14.11 | valdyn | Codemeister: no idea, cant tell anything since i don't yet know which hardware is hiding behind this name |
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| 16:15.11 | Codemeister | http://www2.asetek.com/default.asp?showPage=startside.asp&contentSection=2 |
| 16:15.19 | Codemeister | thats what Im using |
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| 16:16.11 | Codemeister | its the 03-L-7004 |
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| 16:16.41 | MatBoy | when I change something in my .config of a kernel, the running kernel, and I install another kernel-image. Is this change used or overwritten ? |
| 16:16.55 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:17.48 | valdyn | MatBoy: .config only affects kernel compilation |
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| 16:18.24 | psyche__ | can i use ALSA with Envy24? |
| 16:18.37 | psyche__ | someone said that ALSA dont support Envy24 |
| 16:18.41 | MatBoy | valdyn, so when I change 1000Hz there and I do a apt-get install new-kernel-image... it will run on 100Hz ? |
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| 16:18.53 | sku|work | pseubodot: look on www.alsaproject.org |
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| 16:19.16 | sku|work | psyche__: that was for you, the alsa, sorry for bad nick |
| 16:19.42 | gnat_x | hey folks, i compiled libmtp and gnomad2 so i could access my media device (creative zen). that works fine. i've read that amarok can also use libmtp and talk to my device. however since libmtp isn't in debian, will i also have to compile amarok from source to get it to use libmtp? |
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| 16:20.43 | bullgard1 | How can I command Pan 0.14.2.91 to write all newsgroup postings of the groups I have subscibed to my hard disk? |
| 16:21.07 | valdyn | MatBoy: it will run at whatever the kernel image has been configured to run at during its compilation |
| 16:21.30 | valdyn | MatBoy: why even care? |
| 16:21.32 | MatBoy | valdyn, so not like the running kernel is ? |
| 16:22.07 | MatBoy | valdyn, I need to recompile my kernel to 100Hz, bt when I want to upgrade to a newer image... it would be nice when the .config was used... but that is impossible |
| 16:22.18 | valdyn | MatBoy: you're deeply confusing me with these silly questions, build whole sentences with defined subject and object, please |
| 16:22.36 | MatBoy | valdyn, I need a 2.6 on 100Hz |
| 16:23.01 | valdyn | MatBoy: and ? |
| 16:23.03 | MatBoy | I can recompile it... but I was wondering if I install a new kernel-image the running .config is used |
| 16:23.11 | valdyn | MatBoy: no its not used |
| 16:23.28 | MatBoy | valdyn, ok... solved :) |
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| 16:32.14 | dury | hi there channel :) |
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| 16:35.12 | Gryfelhase | reqally silly question, but what means "compile a kernel on 100 Hz" :) |
| 16:35.40 | adriyel | nothing |
| 16:35.50 | adriyel | and on that note, you know what Debian needs? |
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| 16:35.54 | adriyel | more cowbell. |
| 16:36.03 | itrebal | does Debian have a fever? |
| 16:36.20 | adriyel | I have a fever, and it can only by cured by one thing, more cowbell |
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| 16:36.27 | FelipeSouza | Are there a boot-loader installable in a floppy(floppy A), that loads the kernel(also floppy A), and the initrd(initial ram disk) from other floppy disk(disk B)? |
| 16:37.40 | poi | hi all, we have a small company (4 people) and use debeian as a file server. now we want to install a mail server just for us. which one would is good to use and not too difficult to configure??? |
| 16:37.47 | ifireball | FelipeSouza: you can do that with lilo |
| 16:38.55 | wols | maillserver is more than one program |
| 16:39.27 | wols | for MTS either postfix or exim |
| 16:39.32 | wols | *MST |
| 16:39.59 | wols | for mail storage, I'd suggest a good imap server: courier, dovecot, etc |
| 16:40.00 | poi | wols: we want use phproject an this program sents also emails but so far not at our server. |
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| 16:40.19 | poi | wols: we don't need mail strorage |
| 16:40.28 | wols | nothing to do wth clients |
| 16:40.40 | wols | you alwayss need mailstorage |
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| 16:40.55 | lampyris | hello |
| 16:41.05 | wols | what happens when you recieve mail? route it to /dev/null? |
| 16:41.11 | FelipeSouza | ifireball, how? |
| 16:41.16 | poi | wols: true, I was thinking of imap |
| 16:41.29 | stoned | wols: ! sup |
| 16:41.31 | FelipeSouza | ifireball, how can i do it? |
| 16:41.35 | wols | imap is just tons better than pop3 |
| 16:41.44 | poi | wols: why? |
| 16:41.52 | wols | and all those imap servers give you pop3 as well if you insist |
| 16:42.14 | wols | caause your mail is centrally available from everywhere no matter the clientg |
| 16:42.21 | gnat_x | wols: pop3 and imap just do different things. one being better is preference |
| 16:42.54 | gnat_x | wols: some people (my boss) hates that about imap. he likes knowing that his mail is on his machine. |
| 16:42.55 | wols | with imap you can emulate all pop3 functions easily |
| 16:43.08 | wols | not the other way around |
| 16:43.13 | wols | stoned: ca va |
| 16:43.20 | gnat_x | i think imap is better myself but... i can see why you might like pop |
| 16:43.36 | poi | wols: we are always at the same desk. the program should be easy to configure. we are no cracks and don't need to mail outside, nor receive mail from outside |
| 16:43.36 | stoned | cava is tasty |
| 16:43.53 | stoned | wols: cava is hmmm. not very many people i know tht kow of cava |
| 16:44.01 | stoned | wols: what kind are you drinking? |
| 16:44.09 | wols | courier is very easy to config if you use only system accounts |
| 16:44.21 | wols | stoned: not cava, ca va |
| 16:44.30 | wols | update your french |
| 16:44.50 | wols | speaking of drinking: I need more tea |
| 16:44.53 | shining | it's ç |
| 16:44.55 | poi | wols: thx |
| 16:45.01 | stoned | wols: whats that? cava is pronouced like two seperated words too, like ca va. cava is a certain of tea/chaye |
| 16:45.25 | wols | poi: however a public mailserver is NOT easy. anyone who says that is lying |
| 16:45.25 | stoned | +type |
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| 16:45.47 | wols | it's a french catchall saying |
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| 16:45.55 | wols | both a question and an answer |
| 16:46.00 | shining | lol |
| 16:46.09 | shining | right |
| 16:46.12 | stoned | ahh |
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| 16:46.30 | poi | wols: we donn't want to be public with our server |
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| 16:46.46 | stoned | I could use a cup of good old Lipton Yellow Label and milk and honey |
| 16:46.49 | stoned | with some creame |
| 16:46.52 | stoned | yuummy |
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| 16:47.01 | wols | ick. bagged tea |
| 16:47.14 | wols | an english one! and milk! |
| 16:47.16 | stoned | growing up sucks cuz you move away and then you can't get home cooked food until you're married |
| 16:47.17 | h3sp4wn | poi: just have all the accounts on one machine with local delivery only then |
| 16:47.34 | wols | english should be shot for whhat they did to tea |
| 16:47.34 | h3sp4wn | poi: people then can use mutt or pine or whatever - |
| 16:47.37 | stoned | wols: well I like tea I can make myself but its hard to find here |
| 16:47.56 | wols | Java OP Malabar here |
| 16:48.09 | stoned | java |
| 16:48.13 | wols | I don'have any bagged tea |
| 16:48.15 | stoned | I like to drink java too |
| 16:48.28 | stoned | wols: I cold tea bag you |
| 16:48.29 | stoned | :D |
| 16:48.31 | stoned | HAHAHA |
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| 16:48.42 | wols | Java tthe island, not the evil liquid |
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| 16:48.52 | wols | well, espresso is drinkable |
| 16:49.05 | poi | h3sp4wn: we want to use thunderbird with a new mail account for the local mail |
| 16:49.55 | lampyris | i have a problem... cups doesn't work... |
| 16:50.00 | lampyris | can anyone help me? |
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| 16:50.13 | stoned | lampyris: cpu? |
| 16:50.17 | stoned | hardware problem? |
| 16:50.21 | stoned | oh |
| 16:50.26 | stoned | my bad I totally am dyslecisdj;lfaj;dskf |
| 16:50.29 | stoned | ahha cups |
| 16:50.34 | stoned | I need to go back to bed |
| 16:50.41 | wols | lampyris: never assk to ask |
| 16:50.43 | lampyris | eheh :) |
| 16:50.50 | wols | you need to be less stoned |
| 16:51.07 | lampyris | wols, simply it doesn't print... |
| 16:51.35 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 16:51.36 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 16:51.46 | wols | you have a logfile, use it! |
| 16:51.48 | lampyris | i tried with test print too in localhot:631 |
| 16:52.08 | lampyris | yes |
| 16:52.12 | lampyris | i look it |
| 16:52.38 | lampyris | but now there aren't error messages |
| 16:52.38 | FelipeSouza | ifireball, are you sure that the lilo is capable? |
| 16:53.36 | wols | any bootloader is |
| 16:53.36 | lampyris | on localhost:631 it give me the error: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/ppmtospl2 failed" |
| 16:53.39 | lampyris | nothing |
| 16:53.44 | wols | lilo. grub, etc |
| 16:54.06 | wols | is "localhost:631: your logfile? |
| 16:54.22 | ifireball | FelipeSouza: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html <- Boot disk howto |
| 16:54.22 | FelipeSouza | wols, are you sure? Load the kernel on the disk A, and the initrd in disk B? |
| 16:54.29 | lampyris | now my /var/log/cups/err_log is empty |
| 16:54.34 | lampyris | there aren't error messages |
| 16:54.35 | lampyris | :/ |
| 16:55.01 | ifireball | wols: grub tends to be too big for a single disk |
| 16:56.03 | wols | who told you to put grub on a floppy? use syslinx on the floppy |
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| 16:56.26 | lampyris | wols, oh, now it gives me some errors... one second, i nopaste it |
| 16:56.26 | wols | and grub on the hdd to start the floppy or anything else on the hdd |
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| 16:57.13 | ifireball | FelipeSouza: note that this isn't for the faint of heart, you're pretty much building your own mini-distro in many cases you'd be better off d/ling a prebuilt image |
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| 16:57.25 | wols | is there any recent etch cd1 for installing out there? not jigdoo |
| 16:57.40 | dr1v3r | guys how do i clean up remaining files of packages that i have removed? |
| 16:57.45 | stoned | wols: the weekly |
| 16:57.48 | wols | --purge |
| 16:57.54 | wols | stoned: linky? |
| 16:58.07 | stoned | msg dpkg d-i |
| 16:58.11 | wols | this old notebook needs to get rid of an ifection of win2k |
| 16:58.13 | stoned | :) |
| 16:58.18 | lampyris | wols, http://rafb.net/p/2KqpKW19.html |
| 16:58.23 | dr1v3r | i used purge but there is still traces of the old package there |
| 16:58.34 | stoned | !d-i wols |
| 16:58.35 | dpkg | wols, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you've got hardware that the 3.1r3 installer doesn't support - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:58.51 | stoned | wols: scroll towards the bottom you'll see the weekly etch installer images |
| 16:58.59 | stoned | newer than rc1 |
| 16:59.28 | hark | dr1v3r: /msg dpkg purge |
| 16:59.33 | wols | lampyris: where is your printer connected? |
| 16:59.43 | lampyris | usb |
| 16:59.54 | FelipeSouza | ifireball, i know, but this mini-distro is only for i learn the linux more, how it works, etc, i don't will use this disk in case of a emergency, i will use a livecd, i'll try the website, thank's |
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| 17:00.02 | stoned | wols: or you can try the brand spanking daily images |
| 17:00.47 | abrotman | wols: have you ever used debian before ? |
| 17:00.55 | Daveman | Hello, abrotmen. |
| 17:01.05 | dr1v3r | hark thanks |
| 17:01.29 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 17:01.30 | wols | you caught me. I'm aubuntu user |
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| 17:01.35 | Daveman | :) |
| 17:01.36 | abrotman | aussie! |
| 17:01.40 | Daveman | hah |
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| 17:01.45 | stoned | aussie ubuntu user |
| 17:01.47 | stoned | lol |
| 17:01.51 | archville | Hi. |
| 17:01.59 | wols | well, better than linspire that I had before |
| 17:02.10 | hark | wols: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/ |
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| 17:02.24 | wols | 23 CDs? you people are nuts! |
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| 17:02.48 | Ronin | wols: you dont need 23, calm down |
| 17:02.52 | abrotman | wols: or 42 DVDs! |
| 17:02.57 | Ronin | heh |
| 17:03.13 | stoned | what? |
| 17:03.19 | stoned | whose nuts? |
| 17:03.23 | stoned | Deez Nuts! |
| 17:03.25 | wols | kde has its own 2? 2 CDs for a DE? that's worse than vista |
| 17:03.26 | stoned | ahahahaha! |
| 17:03.48 | stoned | wols: at least it doesn't install all of it |
| 17:03.58 | Ronin | k when you're done whining and want to actually install debian let us know |
| 17:03.59 | stoned | wols: and not its not bad, it just means the kde project is huge |
| 17:04.03 | lampyris | can anyone help me with cups please? |
| 17:04.07 | abrotman | i heard KDE needs its own OS that runs on top of debian :) |
| 17:04.20 | stoned | I think abrotman needs to stop dissin KDE |
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| 17:04.29 | abrotman | i think stoned needs to stop using 'lol' |
| 17:04.30 | Daveman | haha |
| 17:04.34 | stoned | abrotman is a disser |
| 17:04.42 | stoned | he is a habitual disser this guy |
| 17:04.49 | abrotman | aw .. poor guy |
| 17:04.50 | wols | try to cat a file to the usb port. does it print? |
| 17:04.59 | Daveman | dude, there's probably a flamer channel just for KDE |
| 17:05.07 | stoned | Daveman: I'm sure |
| 17:05.35 | wols | debian needs faster servers. I now have a 6mbit line dammit |
| 17:05.36 | Daveman | hell, maybe it's even pooled with an emacs flaming channel (if we're lucky) :P |
| 17:05.44 | Daveman | wols, so? |
| 17:05.57 | abrotman | wols: apt-spy :) |
| 17:06.00 | stoned | wols: huh? im on 10mbit |
| 17:06.07 | Daveman | use a decent mirror, if you'd like to complain/whine about [lack of] bandwidth? |
| 17:06.18 | Daveman | fucking kiddie :P |
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| 17:06.28 | stoned | Daveman: dick |
| 17:06.36 | Daveman | stoned? |
| 17:06.50 | stoned | its short for Richard |
| 17:07.01 | abrotman | Daveman: don't mind him .. he takes everything personally :) |
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| 17:07.11 | Daveman | abrotman, acknowledged! |
| 17:07.32 | stoned | i take personalized menus |
| 17:07.40 | stoned | I take them very personally |
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| 17:09.35 | stoned | abrotman: whats the matter? You're not going to tell me how much my GF hates me today? |
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| 17:09.46 | abrotman | see what i mean |
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| 17:09.54 | stoned | I'm not the one who said it |
| 17:09.59 | stoned | :) |
| 17:10.12 | Daveman | haha |
| 17:10.15 | abrotman | but you keep bringing it up |
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| 17:10.31 | lampyris | wols, thanks a lor for your help |
| 17:10.35 | stoned | abrotman: shouldn't have said it |
| 17:10.44 | abrotman | eh .. suse installs a ~/.emacs by default |
| 17:11.18 | wols | what help? didnt do anything that helped |
| 17:11.26 | abrotman | for trying? |
| 17:11.39 | wols | abrotman: how come you know anything about suse? |
| 17:11.46 | stoned | wols: no as I recall you were called a fucking kiddie |
| 17:11.49 | abrotman | wols: i was goofing with it |
| 17:11.50 | JohnCC | I have an application that uses /usr/bin/mail to send myself and a two other people occasional status reports. We noticed that they stopped a little while ago, and I was looking at the program, and it turns out that our mail programs (gmail and whatnot) have started filing it as spam. Obviously we could whitelist my e-mail address and keep going from there, but one of the people I'm sending updates to is VERY tech shy and in another cit |
| 17:11.50 | JohnCC | yacc, so I'd rather fix it on my end. Any suggestions on what I should be doing to not have my messages considered spam? |
| 17:12.03 | abrotman | wols: in qemu .. |
| 17:12.09 | abrotman | wols: been a while since i messed with it |
| 17:12.18 | yacc | JohnCC: ? |
| 17:12.33 | wols | abrotman: shame on you |
| 17:12.58 | wols | JohnCC: are you sending the mail from a dymic IP range? |
| 17:13.04 | abrotman | wols: it was either that or openbsd ... and bsd is dying! :) |
| 17:13.22 | wols | as for gmail: use gmail as your smtp-relay |
| 17:13.34 | JohnCC | yacc: was I unclear or is this the wrong place to ask? |
| 17:13.50 | JohnCC | wols: yes, I use no-ip.org |
| 17:13.57 | wols | what do you need BSD or suse for when you can have debian? or of course our beloved ubuntu |
| 17:13.58 | abrotman | isn't that dyndns ? |
| 17:14.01 | JohnCC | and have a dynamic IP from my DSL provider |
| 17:14.04 | abrotman | wols: bsd/debian! |
| 17:14.05 | stoned | abrotman: no |
| 17:14.11 | lampyris | mmm wols sorry.. the printer is usb, so cat it to sda1... but it doesn't exist :/ |
| 17:14.13 | stoned | abrotman: they are different entities |
| 17:14.18 | wols | use a smtp-reay then, a "smarthost" |
| 17:14.19 | abrotman | a dyndns type thing |
| 17:14.22 | lampyris | # cat /var/log/cups/error_log > /dev/sda1 |
| 17:14.22 | lampyris | bash: /dev/sda1: No such device or address |
| 17:14.27 | stoned | abrotman: yeh |
| 17:14.32 | JohnCC | wols: that's a good idea, I can just relay it and send it from my gmail account? will look into that, thanks! |
| 17:14.32 | abrotman | thought so |
| 17:14.46 | wols | how is sda1 is printer ´for heavens sake? |
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| 17:15.13 | wols | yes, gmail allows to be used as rlay, but it means smtp-auth. good luck |
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| 17:15.26 | abrotman | JohnCC: or use your real ISPs smtp server |
| 17:15.30 | valdyn | lampyris: lucky you, could have destroyed your valuable data on a harddisk |
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| 17:15.31 | abrotman | if it'll route it for you |
| 17:15.33 | lampyris | i think it is on sda1... but i'm not sure... how can i see where it is? |
| 17:15.39 | stoned | abrotman: I'm still trying to figure out how you go upto someone and without knowing anything say some shit like dude your GF hates you? OT yeah, but fuck, thats a retarded thing to say |
| 17:15.42 | wols | abrotman: many don't allow relaying |
| 17:15.43 | stoned | :/ |
| 17:15.50 | lampyris | valdyn, ?!? |
| 17:15.50 | abrotman | stoned: drop it already .. god .. whiney little kid |
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| 17:15.57 | wols | mine wants 3EUR for the priviledge per month. fsck that |
| 17:15.57 | abrotman | wols: mine does! :) |
| 17:16.02 | JohnCC | abrotman: that's an idea too... I get angry at my ISPs and switch reasonably often, so I don't like to get too tied into their infrastructure :-) |
| 17:16.06 | valdyn | lampyris: that's what sda1 is usually |
| 17:16.09 | abrotman | JohnCC: ah ok |
| 17:16.18 | stoned | abrotman: soon as I figure it out |
| 17:16.24 | lampyris | valdyn, i haven't usb's hd |
| 17:16.24 | stoned | abrotman: what a stupid thing to say |
| 17:16.26 | stoned | damn |
| 17:16.28 | abrotman | stoned: good luck |
| 17:16.29 | wols | lampyris: lsusb |
| 17:16.35 | wols | check if itÄs connected+ |
| 17:16.41 | lampyris | ok tnx |
| 17:16.41 | valdyn | lampyris: yes, lucky you |
| 17:16.43 | abrotman | is module usblp setup ? |
| 17:16.48 | wols | *sigh* I hate notebook keyboards |
| 17:17.20 | valdyn | lampyris: usb storage shows as sd*. that doesn't mean that sd* is sub |
| 17:17.22 | valdyn | lampyris: usb storage shows as sd*. that doesn't mean that sd* is usb |
| 17:17.30 | lampyris | wols, yep :) Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04e8:3256 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd |
| 17:17.46 | lampyris | valdyn, in newer kernel... |
| 17:17.52 | lampyris | i have an old kernel |
| 17:18.34 | wols | abrotman: check what abrotman asked |
| 17:18.34 | wols | define "old" |
| 17:18.35 | valdyn | lampyris: that doesn't change this |
| 17:18.35 | lampyris | not newer :P |
| 17:18.35 | valdyn | lampyris: printers are on lp* |
| 17:18.35 | abrotman | uname 0-a |
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| 17:18.36 | abrotman | but no 0 :) |
| 17:18.36 | IndridCold | hey guys |
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| 17:18.42 | wols | hey girlie |
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| 17:19.08 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:19.10 | IndridCold | I'm fiddling with SVN and have confused myself with my file permissions for the repository |
| 17:19.32 | IndridCold | I created an SVN group |
| 17:19.34 | wols | you having a question granny? |
| 17:19.41 | linux2 | hi can someone help me, i am using a microsoft wireless desktop elite keyboard under debian etch |
| 17:19.43 | IndridCold | and an SVN user |
| 17:19.51 | IndridCold | so that the repo looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 7 svn svn 4096 2002-10-22 21:23 repository |
| 17:19.53 | lampyris | wols, # cat /var/log/cups/error_log > /dev/lp0 |
| 17:19.53 | lampyris | bash: /dev/lp0: device is busy |
| 17:19.55 | lampyris | :S |
| 17:19.59 | linux2 | and whenever i type anything it prints out that an unknow key was pressed |
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| 17:20.01 | IndridCold | should I have set the owner to svn as well ? |
| 17:20.10 | valdyn | lampyris: why the hell are you trying to print like this? |
| 17:20.10 | linux2 | and so now its impossible to use the machine cause of it |
| 17:20.31 | linux2 | is there any way to fix this or to just disable DMESG output to the console? |
| 17:20.32 | warlock | Does anyone know how to enable so apache supports swedish letters (ÄÖÅ) ? |
| 17:21.03 | lampyris | valdyn, wols tells me to print in this way... becous cups doen't work.. |
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| 17:21.22 | valdyn | lampyris: ok, that's a valid test |
| 17:21.27 | abrotman | warlock: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 17:21.42 | lampyris | but it tells me that the device is busy :/ |
| 17:21.45 | lampyris | why?! |
| 17:21.51 | valdyn | lampyris: 'fuser /dev/lp0' |
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| 17:22.34 | lampyris | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.34 | lampyris | /dev/lp0: 2664 |
| 17:22.59 | valdyn | lampyris: ps aux | grep 2664 |
| 17:23.22 | lampyris | /usr/sbin/lpd -s :) |
| 17:23.46 | valdyn | lampyris: ok, you have an lpd installed, that's not cups, but does its job |
| 17:23.57 | valdyn | lampyris: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/lpd |
| 17:24.36 | lampyris | uh... i have installed cupsys... btw, i don't know lpd... |
| 17:24.45 | lampyris | it is bettere than cups? |
| 17:25.05 | valdyn | lampyris: no it isn't, you need to get rid of it, so run dpkg -S /usr/sbin/lpd |
| 17:25.14 | lampyris | ah, ok |
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| 17:26.25 | lampyris | valdyn, now? |
| 17:26.35 | valdyn | lampyris: run that command now, yes, tell me the output |
| 17:26.56 | lampyris | ah, ok |
| 17:26.57 | lampyris | :) |
| 17:27.04 | lampyris | lpr: /usr/sbin/lpd |
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| 17:27.36 | valdyn | lampyris: 'apt-get remove --purge lpr' and run also 'apt-get install cupsys-bsd', just for convenience |
| 17:28.08 | linux2 | how do i disable terminal DMESG output so it will stop bugging me? |
| 17:28.30 | valdyn | linux2: read the top of /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 17:28.45 | ifireball | need some ideas here, I have a P3 128M ram "server" here that's already been running exim, apache, mysql and eggdrop, now I've added anotehr 128MB of ram to it and an nvidia GeForce FX 5200, any idea which application I can use to utilise that hardware? (no desktop apps please, ita a server) |
| 17:28.50 | wols | best way is by fixing the problems |
| 17:28.59 | linux2 | valdyn: thanks |
| 17:29.23 | wols | samba |
| 17:29.39 | wols | there is no use at all for the gefordce imho |
| 17:29.46 | valdyn | ifireball: you could run a forkbomb |
| 17:29.55 | valdyn | irix|stopped: that's eat even more than you have |
| 17:30.04 | valdyn | ifireball: that's eat even more than you have |
| 17:30.05 | wols | run irssi and become a irc addict like us |
| 17:30.11 | poi | wols: one more question about the email server. By default debian installs exim4. isn't it also a programm to send and receive emails? |
| 17:30.20 | wols | and you can run without swap |
| 17:30.33 | stoned | I never use swap |
| 17:30.36 | wols | it's a mail rtransfer agent, yes |
| 17:30.37 | valdyn | poi: that's its purpose |
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| 17:30.42 | ifireball | wols: got NFS already no need for samba there, also, no much storage there for it to be a good fileserver |
| 17:30.43 | wols | as I said: exim4 or posttfix+ |
| 17:30.46 | stoned | I have it, but it never gets used |
| 17:31.05 | stoned | just saying it has nothing do with anything but its good |
| 17:31.06 | stoned | I guess |
| 17:31.27 | abrotman | get a machine with less RAM |
| 17:31.29 | stoned | 2.0gb swap just chilllin there, always just waiting |
| 17:31.35 | stoned | abrotman: I I only have 1gb |
| 17:31.44 | abrotman | right .. so get a machine with less |
| 17:31.45 | stoned | and I've got like 20+ apps running |
| 17:31.51 | stoned | just on my desktop |
| 17:31.54 | valdyn | stoned: some of it should get used, no matter what |
| 17:32.00 | wols | give 512MB to me then |
| 17:32.04 | poi | ok, I dind't know. But I just tried. And I can send and receive mails between the accounts on the server itself. But I cannot connect from an other PC with a normal Mail client. |
| 17:32.13 | stoned | valdyn: its not |
| 17:32.15 | wols | valdyn: not really. linux is very reluctant to use swap |
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| 17:32.39 | wols | poi: connecting to send or receive? |
| 17:32.49 | stoned | -/+ buffers/cache: 308 703 |
| 17:32.50 | lampyris | valdyn, i do it, but cups doesn't work... 'cat /home/matteo/Desktop/arte.rtf > /dev/lp0' doen't give me error, but it doesn't print |
| 17:32.51 | stoned | Swap: 2008 0 2008 |
| 17:32.53 | poi | wols: both |
| 17:32.58 | stoned | see it just hangs out |
| 17:33.09 | poi | wols: it says connection dennied |
| 17:33.10 | valdyn | lampyris: don't try printing files like that |
| 17:33.15 | wols | for receiving you need a pop3 or imap server |
| 17:33.16 | JordiGH | How can I make the Wikipedia search box in Iceweasel work like the one in Wikipedia? It used to take me to the first hit if I got it exactly, but now it takes me to the Wikipedia search page even if I get the first hit exactly. |
| 17:33.18 | charlesg3 | any network experts out there? I'm having a real hard time setting up public ip's behind my gateway |
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| 17:33.29 | wols | and tell the mta to deliver to the pop3/imap server |
| 17:33.31 | valdyn | lampyris: that's also no indication if cups works or not, you could use 'lpr file.pdf' for that now |
| 17:33.38 | abrotman | stoned: maybe you should do some real work :) |
| 17:33.46 | wols | for smtp you need to tell exim4 to accept mail from those other machinesä |
| 17:33.51 | valdyn | lampyris: dpkg -l gsp-esp | tail -1 |
| 17:33.56 | stoned | abrotman: like what? |
| 17:33.58 | valdyn | lampyris: dpkg -l gs-esp | tail -1 |
| 17:34.10 | stoned | abrotman: 50 oo.o windows? |
| 17:34.14 | agent | Why would dhclient give the error "No DHCPOFFERS received" when 1) dhcp on server is on 2) there are ip's available for allocation and 2) the interfaces file as well as hardware is working fine (works on other networks)? |
| 17:34.17 | abrotman | stoned: that might do it :) |
| 17:34.23 | stoned | hehe |
| 17:34.26 | lampyris | # dpkg -l gs-esp | tail -1 |
| 17:34.26 | lampyris | ii gs-esp 8.15.3.dfsg.1-1 The Ghostscript PostScript interpreter - ESP version |
| 17:34.29 | poi | wols: so I still need another programm because exim4 cannot deliver to an external client? |
| 17:34.36 | abrotman | stoned: work with larger audio files .. raw ones |
| 17:34.39 | justin | agent: what dhcp server |
| 17:34.40 | valdyn | agent: when some of what you think is working really is not workin |
| 17:34.43 | ifireball | charlesg3: what kind of gateway is that? |
| 17:34.43 | wols | poi: yes. I told you before |
| 17:34.52 | charlesg3 | ifireball, a debian soekris board |
| 17:34.53 | wols | courier, dovecot, etc |
| 17:35.12 | valdyn | lampyris: ok, restart cups, '/etc/init.d/cupsys restart' |
| 17:35.18 | lampyris | yes |
| 17:35.21 | charlesg3 | ifireball, if you can help i would like to resume in /msg since the chat scrolls alot and I have a lot of info to provide |
| 17:35.24 | wols | /W/whois charlesg3 |
| 17:35.26 | poi | wols: hmmm, my english seems to get worse. :'( |
| 17:35.41 | wols | just like my typing |
| 17:35.52 | abrotman | wols: nice keyboard |
| 17:36.08 | wols | yes, I love it dearly |
| 17:36.10 | JordiGH | It's probably in about:config somewhere... Hm, diggging... |
| 17:36.11 | stoned | abrotman: I recorded a new riff. btw, I'm still amazed at what you said, but anyway, I did http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/music/newriff.mp3 last night rough draft but I was wasted and it sounded good I decided to record. I ran a high and a low pass filter on it, and amped it a tad bit, with some noise filtering |
| 17:36.20 | stoned | abrotman: some phaser too, just a bit |
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| 17:36.28 | stoned | abrotman: this time effects were added with software |
| 17:36.37 | stoned | I'm getting kinda good at this audacity |
| 17:36.40 | wols | charlesg3: are you sure your IPs behind the gateway are public? |
| 17:36.50 | stoned | no matter anyone says, it works best for me |
| 17:36.55 | agent | justin, valdyn: I do not know exactly what the server software uses. It may even be a router. Do note that another Debian box had the same problem then it went away and now it works. My guess is that the router is having issues, but I do not know how to debug it. I am just trying to brainstorm and it does not help that I have no access to it or the network right now. |
| 17:36.56 | abrotman | stoned: hydrogen didn't work for oyu ? |
| 17:37.00 | stoned | I don't know how a sequences works or will help me |
| 17:37.03 | stoned | hydrogen works |
| 17:37.06 | abrotman | stoned: erm .. rosegarden :) |
| 17:37.08 | stoned | of course I love it |
| 17:37.09 | poi | wols: just for a better understanding. An MTA like exim4 delivers to programs like courier. And from those I can get the mails with my client. To sent emails I have to tell the MTA to accept mails from outside. |
| 17:37.12 | stoned | I tried it |
| 17:37.13 | lampyris | valdyn, i have already restarted it... but it doen't work... :( |
| 17:37.23 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 17:37.23 | charlesg3 | wols, yes, I have a block of 8 ips, I have some nat'd boxes behind the gateway and i want some public ip's behind the gateway |
| 17:37.23 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 17:37.44 | charlesg3 | wols, I can get to the outside from the public ip, but not from the outside to the public ip |
| 17:37.45 | valdyn | lampyris: 'lpr somefile.pdf', then paste /var/log/cups/error_log somewhere |
| 17:37.45 | stoned | abrotman: give it a listen let me know what you think though I know it is not your cup of tea |
| 17:37.52 | wols | poi: yes. however be careful who you allow to send mails from outside, or you're an open relay aka a spam sender |
| 17:37.57 | lampyris | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.03 | lampyris | ah, ok |
| 17:38.43 | ifireball | charlesg3: do you have iptable filtering packets on the gatway? |
| 17:38.51 | poi | wols: thanks a lot for your help. Now at least I know where to start. |
| 17:38.52 | justin | charlesg3: you can't just arbitratily setup a gateway for public ips |
| 17:39.00 | wols | charlesg3: NAT and public IPs on the same interface of the soekris? |
| 17:39.14 | charlesg3 | wols, no the soekris has 3 nics... |
| 17:39.29 | charlesg3 | justin, what do you mean arbitrarily? |
| 17:39.47 | abrotman | stoned: i will .. but not in here .. it's totally OT |
| 17:39.49 | justin | charlesg3: how do you expect the rest of the internet to know about this gateway of yours? |
| 17:39.55 | charlesg3 | ifireball, I just set all my rules to "accept" and it worked (more progress than ive made in days) |
| 17:40.00 | charlesg3 | Jussi, the gateway has a public ip as well |
| 17:40.11 | stoned | ok |
| 17:40.17 | stoned | just msg me |
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| 17:40.24 | lampyris | valdyn, http://rafb.net/p/MvvJgw44.html |
| 17:40.25 | stoned | its ok you can |
| 17:40.40 | JordiGH | I'm actually curious to know if this Wikipedia search behaviour is an Iceweasel peculiarity or if it's in Firefox too. |
| 17:40.41 | ifireball | charlesg3: ok, you parbably just need to setup the right rules in the "forward" chain |
| 17:40.43 | wols | justin: whoever he got the 8IPs from has him in his routing table I'd say |
| 17:40.47 | justin | charlesg3: and your isp has a route that says that those 8 ips are behind this gateway? |
| 17:41.02 | sidjster | hah all my stupid mime type errors gone :) |
| 17:41.16 | charlesg3 | justin, my ISP has a route that says these 8 ips are behind one gateway which forwards traffic to my network |
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| 17:41.22 | wols | JordiGH: what peculiarity?? that it sucks? |
| 17:41.28 | wols | that one's universal |
| 17:41.33 | agent | :) |
| 17:41.35 | valdyn | lampyris: cups is fine, your printer is off or crashed or your usblp is not ok |
| 17:41.44 | JordiGH | wols: No, it used to take me to the first hit, now it always takes me to Wikipedia's search page. |
| 17:41.46 | valdyn | lampyris: i think your printer might not really be lp0 |
| 17:41.48 | justin | charlesg3: ah, then the rules in the FORWARD table are probably wrong |
| 17:42.00 | valdyn | lampyris: or whatever you configured your printer to in cups |
| 17:42.02 | wols | always gave me a listing of hits with percentages |
| 17:42.03 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 17:42.03 | dpkg | cups setup is, like, Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or or you can try printconf |
| 17:42.06 | wols | no mattter the browser+ |
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| 17:42.14 | charlesg3 | justin, I just changed all the rules to -j ACCEPT and I got through, I can investigate more, thx anyway |
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| 17:42.27 | agent | JordiGH: When you search don't you want to be taken to the results page if there is more than one result? |
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| 17:43.03 | JordiGH | agent: No. If I search for "donkey" I want to be taken to the Wikipedia entry on donkies. |
| 17:43.36 | sidjster | whats the bes way to remove hotplug? |
| 17:43.44 | JordiGH | agent: It used to work like that, like Wikipedia's own internal search engine. I don't know if the change is an Iceweasel change or a Firefox change. |
| 17:43.52 | valdyn | sidjster: why would you do that? |
| 17:43.57 | streuner | sidjster: uhm, What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 17:44.30 | lampyris | valdyn, ok, i'll reinstall the printer... |
| 17:44.32 | lampyris | thank a lot |
| 17:44.34 | agent | JordiGH: Then you have issues. If you search for donkies and there are two or more entries for donkies how in the world is wikipedia supposed to know what you want? If there is only one donkey entry, then it should take you to that entry. This works in Konqueror. For example, I just did wp:nmap and it took me to wikipedia's nmap entry not results page. |
| 17:45.00 | sidjster | etch dosent like hot plug right? |
| 17:45.08 | valdyn | sidjster: wrong |
| 17:45.09 | JordiGH | agent: Wikipedia has redirects. If you search in Wikipedia's search field for donkey, you'll go to the donkey entry. |
| 17:45.09 | wols | etch uses udev |
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| 17:45.45 | valdyn | sidjster: hotplug used to be required for udev, now its either udev or hotplug because udev provides hotplug's functionality |
| 17:45.51 | JordiGH | agent: Iceweasel took me to a "results" page when I searched for nmap. |
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| 17:47.47 | wols | JordiGH: takes me to nmap here+ |
| 17:47.47 | agent | JordiGH: You need to be more specific: what search page are you using? |
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| 17:47.48 | mtl | How do I build a debian package? |
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| 17:47.48 | agent | JordiGH: As I said earlier, it takes me to nmap entry when I use wp:nmap in Konqueror (wp is just a shortcut for wikipedia search) |
| 17:47.48 | JordiGH | agent: I'm using the search bar on the top right part of Iceweasel, where I "added engine" and added the Wikipedia search. |
| 17:47.48 | abrotman | !tell mtl about mg |
| 17:47.49 | agent | JordiGH: Oh. then it's an IceWeasel problem. |
| 17:47.49 | JordiGH | agent: Well, as I said earlier, it doesn't have the same behaviour for me in Iceweasel. |
| 17:47.49 | JordiGH | agent: Yes! How do I fix it? |
| 17:47.57 | agent | JordiGH: Using "search" field on Wikipedia the manual way also brings up nmap entry not search results. |
| 17:47.59 | FelipeSouza | My floppy is ok and booting from two floppyes, thank's wols, ifireball, PS: I used syslinux, a small and easy boot loader that supports vfat. |
| 17:48.24 | JordiGH | agent: Yes! Damnit, I don't care if it works in other places, it doesn't work in one place I'm trying to fix! |
| 17:48.31 | abrotman | is that JohnFelipeSouza ? |
| 17:48.54 | FelipeSouza | What? |
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| 17:49.09 | agent | JordiGH: Calm down! You asked whether or not this was an IceWeasel problem and I answered you. If you have a problem then don't ask. Shesh. |
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| 17:49.51 | FelipeSouza | abrotman, ? |
| 17:49.58 | JordiGH | agent: Actually, my question was if this was also in Firefox or just in Iceweasel. |
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| 17:50.25 | abrotman | felipe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Philip_Sousa |
| 17:50.32 | abrotman | FelipeSouza: ^^ |
| 17:50.34 | knight | when i do apt-get update in debian etch im getting some errors with non free packages |
| 17:50.36 | abrotman | felipe: misfire . osrry |
| 17:50.54 | felipe | no worries :) |
| 17:50.54 | sidjster | somr errors |
| 17:50.56 | sidjster | wow |
| 17:51.17 | JordiGH | knight: What errors? |
| 17:51.37 | sidjster | i got some errors too |
| 17:51.44 | sidjster | help me first |
| 17:52.04 | knight | JordiGH, will you check this,,http://channels.debian.net/paste/5486 |
| 17:52.14 | FelipeSouza | hehe |
| 17:52.20 | agent | !errors |
| 17:52.20 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors |
| 17:52.23 | FelipeSouza | ^^ |
| 17:52.29 | JordiGH | knight: Do apt-get update first. |
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| 17:52.53 | ifireball | anyone knows of a way for thunderbird to store it's adressbook on a server? LDAP doesn't cut it beacse its read-only... |
| 17:53.00 | knight | JordiGH, yah ive done that |
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| 17:53.05 | JordiGH | knight: Alternatively, try switching mirrors. Sometimes a mirror is missing some entries for some reason. |
| 17:53.22 | JordiGH | Oh, wait, it's the debian repository. |
| 17:53.49 | knight | yes |
| 17:54.08 | abrotman | xand: would you fix that already? |
| 17:54.17 | abrotman | ifireball: what are the other options ? |
| 17:54.20 | xand | fix what? |
| 17:54.22 | JordiGH | knight: That's odd. Try a different mirror. |
| 17:54.32 | abrotman | xand: can't write to ldap entries in tbird |
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| 17:54.37 | JordiGH | debian.osuosl.org is a speedy mirror for me. |
| 17:54.41 | xand | DIY |
| 17:54.49 | abrotman | lazy brit! |
| 17:54.49 | xand | presumably you mean icedove? :P |
| 17:54.50 | JordiGH | So is debian.yorku.ca |
| 17:54.52 | ifireball | abrotman: don't know, that's why I'm asking... |
| 17:54.58 | abrotman | xand: yeah .. whatever :) |
| 17:55.07 | abrotman | ifireball: ask #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org |
| 17:56.04 | ifireball | heh, I was hoping there was a $thunderbird right here... |
| 17:56.04 | h3sp4wn | http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian is very fast from the uk for me (updates twice a day also) (ftp.uk.debian.org is slow and doesn't sync often) |
| 17:56.13 | IndridCold | Instead of authenticating users on SSH with passwords can I have a key per user ? |
| 17:56.14 | ifireball | s/$/#/ |
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| 17:56.37 | abrotman | oh yay |
| 17:56.40 | ifireball | IndridCold: yes. |
| 17:56.52 | IndridCold | ifireball: Cool, im generating my key pair locally |
| 17:57.00 | IndridCold | I take it I just copy my public key to the server ? |
| 17:57.12 | JordiGH | ifireball: You should escape those metacharacters, y'know. s/\$/\# |
| 17:57.27 | ifireball | IndridCold: and put it in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, yes. |
| 17:57.47 | IndridCold | excellent, I'll copy and paste it in |
| 17:58.36 | ifireball | JordiGH: that totally depend on your perticular languae and environment, but yeah I had a hard time avoiding my escaping habit typing that ;) |
| 17:58.49 | JordiGH | ifireball: :-) |
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| 17:59.47 | psyche__ | how i can configure X? |
| 17:59.55 | psyche__ | dpkg--reconfigure xfree86-server ? |
| 17:59.57 | abrotman | !drxx psyche__ |
| 17:59.58 | dpkg | psyche__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:00.05 | psyche__ | oh... |
| 18:00.35 | sidjster | ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty what is that |
| 18:00.41 | psyche__ | how i can install xorg? |
| 18:00.50 | abrotman | which version of debian are you on ? |
| 18:00.57 | psyche__ | 3.1 |
| 18:00.59 | psyche__ | sarge |
| 18:01.08 | abrotman | you can either use backports.org or upgrarde to etch |
| 18:01.30 | IndridCold | okay time to restart SSH - hope this works! |
| 18:02.10 | ifireball | IndridCold: no need to restart the sshd for that |
| 18:02.18 | IndridCold | oh, oops |
| 18:02.19 | IndridCold | lol |
| 18:02.28 | sidjster | gonna have the guy that cant reconfigure x backport x-org |
| 18:02.30 | IndridCold | I was previously on password authentication |
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| 18:02.40 | sidjster | not a good idea |
| 18:02.55 | abrotman | sidjster: yes he can |
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| 18:04.39 | IndridCold | "no supported authentication methods available" :( |
| 18:04.56 | sidjster | have fun with broken x |
| 18:05.58 | ifireball | IndridCold: make sure "PubkeyAuthentication" isn't disabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 18:06.32 | IndridCold | PubkeyAuthentication yes |
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| 18:06.38 | ifireball | IndridCold: also make sure only you have access to the ~/.ssh directory |
| 18:06.56 | IndridCold | gah, I put it in my home directory but under root |
| 18:06.57 | IndridCold | im locked out now |
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| 18:07.29 | ifireball | oh you disable passwordauth? heh... footshooting... |
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| 18:07.37 | IndridCold | :( lol |
| 18:07.40 | abrotman | foot gone ... |
| 18:07.59 | sidjster | only one foot left |
| 18:08.03 | ifireball | IndridCold: I do hope the server is somewhere near... |
| 18:08.11 | IndridCold | haha yeah, 15 minute walk |
| 18:08.11 | psyche__ | any clue how i can configure multiscreen system? |
| 18:08.20 | IndridCold | but im gonna go out have a few beers and sort this tommorow |
| 18:08.21 | psyche__ | i have 2 screens, and i want shared desktop |
| 18:08.24 | IndridCold | thanks for your help ;) |
| 18:08.52 | Dark_Apostrophe | Is there a way to see how much bandwidth an app is using? |
| 18:09.07 | abrotman | ntop or jnettop |
| 18:09.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | (A specific app, not the whole system) |
| 18:09.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | top.. hmm... |
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| 18:14.45 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: Thanks :) |
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| 18:17.06 | MatBoy | Does someone know what kernel-config option does set the Clock on 100Hz ? |
| 18:18.39 | yacc | MatBoy: CONFIG_HZ_100 |
| 18:18.56 | MatBoy | yacc, ok, under what chapter ? |
| 18:18.57 | yacc | MatBoy: grep 100 .config |
| 18:19.07 | MatBoy | yacc, yeah, can;t find that setting :) |
| 18:19.33 | yacc | MatBoy: Firmware drivers??? |
| 18:19.39 | yacc | MatBoy: vi .config ? |
| 18:19.52 | MatBoy | yacc, firmware drivers > |
| 18:19.53 | MatBoy | ?> |
| 18:20.07 | abrotman | MatBoy: ask ##kernel |
| 18:20.10 | cahoot | MatBoy: hit / in menuconfig and do a search |
| 18:20.10 | sidjster | what does that even do? |
| 18:20.17 | MatBoy | abrotman, yes, quiet there |
| 18:20.18 | abrotman | sidjster: some game needs it |
| 18:20.33 | yacc | sidjster: it makes the kernel user bigger time slices. |
| 18:20.39 | MatBoy | abrotman, no, Virtual Machines |
| 18:20.47 | abrotman | oh .. it has a new use! :) |
| 18:20.54 | sidjster | im to dumb to ever get that |
| 18:21.00 | h3sp4wn | MatBoy: processor type and features -> timer frequency |
| 18:21.03 | MatBoy | abrotman, no, it's known, for CentOS there is a special kernel repo |
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| 18:21.08 | yacc | sidjster: it makes the kernel less responsive for interactive use, but OTOH, it increases inefficencies. |
| 18:21.45 | yacc | *arg* it makes the kernel more efficient, as it lowers the overhead spent in switching tasks. |
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| 18:22.11 | abrotman | up til now .. i've only seen people trying to play some game asking for it |
| 18:22.11 | sidjster | hz is hertz right? |
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| 18:22.55 | xingu | abrotman: dyntick/nohz merged upstream in 2.6.21-rc1 |
| 18:23.09 | MatBoy | thanks all ! |
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| 18:23.23 | abrotman | xingu: yay .. i think |
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| 18:23.33 | sidjster | so what is the kernel cycling at normally? |
| 18:23.44 | aardvarq | onjoin <GiRL[24]> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 18:23.48 | xingu | hz=foo sets the frequency for your jiffie; higher hz = lower latency but more context switches per code section |
| 18:24.03 | MatBoy | abrotman, ok, so when someone asks... hey my VM is using 10-20% CPU when doing nothing... you know... use a 2.4 kernel or recompile the 2.6 with a 100Hz clock |
| 18:24.23 | abrotman | MatBoy: "nothing" eh ? |
| 18:24.25 | MatBoy | abrotman, I didn't know of that games.. I think the games were running too fast in that case ? |
| 18:24.35 | MatBoy | abrotman, ok... idle |
| 18:24.38 | abrotman | NFC .. i don't play the game :) |
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| 18:25.00 | abrotman | !ops GiRL[24] spamming on join |
| 18:25.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abrotman complains about: GiRL[24] spamming on join |
| 18:25.04 | MatBoy | I got a original quake 4 from a friend of mine... played it some time |
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| 18:26.37 | abrotman | !beer LoRez |
| 18:26.39 | LoRez | idiots |
| 18:28.03 | xingu | if a given hypervisor is burning user time with high frequency jiffie, it's because it's doing a piss poor job of pit emulation |
| 18:29.13 | tjostolf | When I do 'dpkg -l' I get some packages marked with rc. I understand that that means that the package is not installed, but the configuration is still on my system. But I'd like to remove also the configuration? |
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| 18:29.44 | xingu | tjostolf: --purge |
| 18:29.48 | h3sp4wn | tjostolf: aptitude purge \~c |
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| 18:30.26 | tjostolf | I know --purge with apt-get remove, but this is packages that is already removed. |
| 18:30.32 | abrotman | man dpkg |
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| 18:31.08 | tjostolf | abrotman: ok, I might not have read it well enough.. |
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| 18:31.30 | xingu | abrotman: nohz is probably the right answer and comes with a non-synthetic (non-ricer) use-case; no fixed frequency jiffie means less watts burnt idling |
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| 18:36.27 | hark | tjostolf: /msg dpkg purge |
| 18:37.06 | abrotman | !tell deg0nz|weq about away |
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| 18:43.04 | abrotman | !moo |
| 18:43.04 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 18:45.53 | knight | is it possible to view files saved in desktop directly in xfce? |
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| 18:47.13 | stoned | knight: just go to ~/Desktop |
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| 18:48.49 | enouf | !qotd |
| 18:48.49 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
| 18:48.57 | enouf | !qotd0 |
| 18:48.57 | dpkg | somebody said qotd101 was <nvz> abrotman: nope.. just wakin up and seeing Guerin thats all |
| 18:49.05 | alexluna | qotd0 |
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| 18:49.48 | hark | knight: xfce 4.4 finally got teh desktop icons |
| 18:50.38 | psyche__ | hey, i need help with dual screen system? |
| 18:51.04 | ruied | I would like to install gnomemeeting from testing source, I made: apt-get install gnomemeeting -t testing... but it say's that the packages have unmente dependencies... what can I do? my sources.list has a line for 'testing main' |
| 18:52.47 | enouf | ruied: making a backport? |
| 18:52.57 | EightEleven | psyche__: What kind of help do you need? |
| 18:53.03 | enouf | ruied: /msg dpkg build-dep |
| 18:53.24 | psyche__ | EightEleven well, i dont know how i can configure 2 screens |
| 18:53.34 | psyche__ | do i have to configure those manually? |
| 18:54.00 | enouf | psyche__: what type of card(s)?, Xorg, or Xfree86?, more info |
| 18:54.15 | psyche__ | Free86 |
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| 18:54.18 | psyche__ | Xfree86 |
| 18:54.20 | zorrolero | any idea why there is no more highlighting of found words in manpages in a default-etch-install? |
| 18:54.26 | psyche__ | ATI Radeon 9800 Pro |
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| 18:55.17 | quintin | How do I make a program setuid root? I want my perl thing to run as root even if it is someone else |
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| 18:55.47 | linux3 | can anyone help me with oss sound |
| 18:55.52 | linux3 | for some reason the oss sound isn't working |
| 18:55.55 | stoned | !suid |
| 18:55.55 | dpkg | suid is, like, "set user ID". unix supports a special bit in a file's permissions that will allow a program run by a user to run with the ID of the file owner |
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| 18:56.16 | linux3 | alsa works but oss doesn't. oss worked fine in debian on my other machines |
| 18:56.21 | linux3 | what could be wrong with this one? |
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| 18:56.45 | stoned | !set suid root |
| 18:56.46 | dpkg | set a program suid root by chown root foo; chmod +s foo |
| 18:57.18 | enouf | linux3: lsmod | grep oss .. see snd_pcm_oss loaded? .. alsa has an oss wrapper |
| 18:57.29 | helmut | Hi. Could someone help me debug my famd? The description of the problem is simple: nothing happens. (i.e. I run strace on famd and I can see that it does not do anything on monitored directories) |
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| 18:57.35 | ruied | enouf, doing the backport it sa'ys that the Build-dependencies for gnomemeeting could not be satisfied |
| 18:57.45 | linux3 | enouf, yeah i see a couple of things with oss |
| 18:57.59 | enouf | ruied: /msg dpkg build-essential |
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| 18:58.07 | xingu | gnomebleating is ekiga these days isn't it? |
| 18:58.08 | EightEleven | psyche__: For dual screen, you need to change a setting in XF86Config |
| 18:58.15 | EightEleven | I never did it myself. |
| 18:58.28 | EightEleven | But this file contains your monitor, keyboard and mouse configuration. |
| 18:59.11 | agent | How do I have module-assistant remove/purge a specific module and all of files installed by m-a m-i? Doing a m-a purge x says it will remove *all* modules and not just x. |
| 18:59.27 | enouf | linux3: try dpkg -l alsa* to see perhaps you need a wrapper from alsa or whatever |
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| 18:59.46 | sts | hello folks |
| 19:00.01 | sts | is apache2-mpm-perchild a replacement for suexec? |
| 19:00.07 | enouf | linux3: also if using a DE like KDE/Gnome, may need to visit their respective "control centers" and adjust accordingly |
| 19:00.15 | zorrolero | e.g. when i search for resync with "/resync" in the manpage of mdadm, vi(?) jumps, but doesn't highlight the found searchstring |
| 19:00.54 | xingu | zorrolero: ^K |
| 19:01.26 | xingu | zorrolero: or esc u |
| 19:01.30 | linux3 | enouf, its working now. i just reran alsaconf |
| 19:01.34 | enouf | zorrolero: I'm just guessing, but might that be a function of a vi/vim pkg? .. perhaps you need a certain pkg... I don't know which is responsible for that syntax highlighting, .. maybe something in nroff? or .. |
| 19:01.36 | linux3 | something was wrong in the config of alsa |
| 19:01.38 | agent | zorrolero: I believe man uses less for it's pager. man less for more info on less and man man for more info on man. |
| 19:01.53 | enouf | linux3: ok .. nice |
| 19:02.23 | raf256 | if one did mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda8 and there was an ext2 with data, any chance to recover the data? |
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| 19:03.08 | fraudster | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.23 | agent | raf256: There is always a chance. How small/big is another matter. But ext3 is just ext2 + a journel, so your chances are pretty high I would guess. |
| 19:03.27 | zorrolero | xingu: doesn't work 4me |
| 19:03.40 | EightEleven | raf256: Yes |
| 19:04.15 | raf256 | EightEleven: agent how to? the partition was reformated as ext3 and one firectory had been created so far |
| 19:04.51 | xingu | zorrolero: man uses whatever $PAGER is set to, the debian burned in default is "less"; less will do syntax highlighting by default on most terminal types - are you using man, have you overridden/ set PAGER, and what is your $TERMinal type? |
| 19:04.57 | enouf | raf256: /msg dpkg undelete .. maybe? |
| 19:05.09 | EightEleven | raf256: Most important: don't write to the partition. |
| 19:05.16 | zorrolero | okhey, less wasn't installed yet, now, after installation, the searchstring is highlighted! ,) *agent:thx* |
| 19:05.20 | raf256 | EightEleven: I know. its not me btw :) |
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| 19:06.06 | enouf | zorrolero: right .. usually 'more' is installed instead of less, as default |
| 19:06.15 | EightEleven | And then, either try to run a recover tool that rebuilds the directory/file structure in memory or recover individual files. |
| 19:06.30 | helmut | Is there anyone who observed that his fam (file alteration monitor) worked on sarge at all? |
| 19:06.32 | raf256 | EightEleven: what is the name of the tool? |
| 19:06.45 | zorrolero | enouf: yep, seem so |
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| 19:07.38 | raf256 | EightEleven: joru deleted it :P |
| 19:08.16 | abrotman | helmut: what makes you think otherwise ? |
| 19:08.21 | raf256 | EightEleven: so no one knows the name of this tool? |
| 19:08.23 | enouf | helmut: is famd running? .. I'm using sid/etch, so Sarge may be a bit different |
| 19:08.46 | enouf | raf256: google undelete ext2 |
| 19:08.47 | helmut | abrotman: I straced famd and the thing I observe when creating files is just plain *nothing* |
| 19:08.55 | helmut | enouf: yes. otherwise I could not strace it. |
| 19:09.23 | quintin | hmm |
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| 19:09.30 | enouf | helmut: what's pstree -lunap | grep fam say about it? |
| 19:09.32 | helmut | abrotman: furthermore the source tells me that fam uses the imon interface. However the sarge stock kernel doesn't know about imon and there is no /dev/imon! |
| 19:09.32 | abrotman | helmut: i thinkyou have to tell it where to look |
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| 19:09.45 | EightEleven | raf256: I have used different tools over time. |
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| 19:09.59 | EightEleven | The last one I used was a perl script to recover photos from a fat partition. |
| 19:10.00 | helmut | enouf: you mean like: famd,7870 -T 0 |
| 19:10.15 | EightEleven | But searching on google or through synaptic should lead to a usefull tool. |
| 19:10.29 | EightEleven | I found a free tool called testdisk through apt/synaptic. |
| 19:10.51 | helmut | abrotman: I use courier imapd for testing. I can verify that courier connects to famd when starting it. |
| 19:10.52 | EightEleven | Read the description and check if it recovers the type of files that were on that partition. |
| 19:11.18 | enouf | helmut: yep, that looks about right .. have you man famd yet? |
| 19:11.53 | ruied | how can I upgrade gnome to the testing version? |
| 19:11.54 | enouf | helmut: perhaps you want to try ltrace instead |
| 19:12.03 | EightEleven | EightElevent: I also once used some commercial tool that recovers many types of files, but I cannot find the name now. |
| 19:12.20 | enouf | ruied: no more building :-( |
| 19:12.25 | enouf | ? |
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| 19:12.45 | helmut | enouf: of course I did. I read parts of the source already, because google didn't bring up enough information. :-( |
| 19:12.50 | ruied | enouf, I'm a litle lost... |
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| 19:13.34 | enouf | ruied: upgrading all of gnome will be hefty .. you want to look for a Backport? or upgrade to etch entirely? /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:14.08 | helmut | enouf: ltrace doesn't look helpfull |
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| 19:14.42 | carebear | hi |
| 19:14.50 | enouf | helmut: so I'm sure you saw the refernece to man fam.conf ..yes? |
| 19:15.27 | helmut | enouf: of course. :-) |
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| 19:16.01 | quintin | Is there a way to force a refresh of my desktop menu in gnome? some installed programs are not showing up |
| 19:16.19 | helmut | enouf: ah. I just saw that famd is patched against dnotify on debian, however it does not invoke any dnotify system calls. |
| 19:16.26 | ruied | enouf, I could upgrade to etch, but do not know if it is safe (I have a samba PDC dunning in that machine)... what is your opinion? upgrade or backport? |
| 19:16.31 | helmut | enouf: i.e. the binary contains a DNotify class etc. |
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| 19:17.49 | enouf | helmut: also review /usr/share/doc/libfam0/README.Debian ... FWIW |
| 19:18.11 | enouf | ruied: Yes.. backport should be just fine .. |
| 19:19.03 | enouf | ruied: may also want to have handy the info in /msg dpkg apt howto |
| 19:19.24 | helmut | enouf: the sarge version only contains a README. |
| 19:19.56 | enouf | helmut: heh.. |
| 19:20.01 | ruied | enouf, going to take a try... |
| 19:20.29 | enouf | ruied: make sure you gnome-meeting is part of whatever you backport ;-) .. I don't use gnome, so don't know |
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| 19:20.37 | valdyn | quintin: 'killall gnome-panel', it should restart automagically, but manual refresh should not be needed |
| 19:20.38 | enouf | s/you/your |
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| 19:21.15 | ruied | enouf, thanks... :) |
| 19:21.18 | enouf | h3xis: have you restarted famd yet? |
| 19:21.30 | h3xis | enouf, sure havent. |
| 19:21.34 | h3xis | :P |
| 19:21.45 | enouf | h3xis: apologies |
| 19:21.48 | h3xis | haha |
| 19:21.49 | helmut | enouf: often enough. ;-) |
| 19:21.55 | enouf | helmut: heh |
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| 19:22.29 | enouf | helmut: are the partitions you mounted using the noatime? or other funky option? |
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| 19:22.55 | CharminTheMoose | anyone know the name of that updated loadlin software? |
| 19:22.56 | enouf | maybe nosync |
| 19:23.06 | helmut | enouf: wait. I just used a simple fam client and verified that fam actually does something. |
| 19:23.07 | enouf | !loadlin |
| 19:23.08 | dpkg | [loadlin] a program to boot a linux kernel from a dos prompt, this link may help you use it: http://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen/ |
| 19:23.14 | helmut | enouf: the problem has to be with courier. |
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| 19:23.40 | enouf | helmut: ahhh .. mail crapola .. hehe |
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| 19:24.37 | helmut | enouf: I bet noone ever tried to use courier-imap with fam yet |
| 19:24.45 | enouf | CharminTheMoose: try en.wikipedia.org/wiki/loadlin |
| 19:24.57 | enouf | helmut: heh |
| 19:25.25 | helmut | enouf: I set up everything as described in http://www.courier-mta.org/?imapd.html |
| 19:25.26 | enouf | CharminTheMoose: poke asround on sf.net and freshmeat.net or whatever |
| 19:25.55 | enouf | helmut: I have no friggin clue when it comes to email MTA/MUA(s) .. :-P |
| 19:25.58 | abrotman | eh .. i don't think you're supposed to use fam with courier-imap |
| 19:26.08 | abrotman | !fam |
| 19:26.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, fam is a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap, or if lack of FAM is killing your courier-imap, build courier-imap from upstream source |
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| 19:26.21 | serengeti | hi, i've just installed the -686 kernel package on my k6-2 etch server.. not the smartest move I admit, the system now restarts immediately after LILO loads the kernel and there's no option to select the previous one. what should I do? |
| 19:26.22 | serengeti | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.41 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: k6-2 isn't -686 |
| 19:26.45 | helmut | enouf: well I'm one step farther. thanks. |
| 19:27.05 | enouf | helmut: no prob .. thank abrotman .. |
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| 19:27.19 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:27.23 | abrotman | thank for whhat ? |
| 19:27.33 | enouf | !chessesteak abrotman |
| 19:27.34 | abrotman | serengeti: k6-2 isn't -686 |
| 19:27.39 | enouf | meh |
| 19:27.40 | abrotman | chesssteak? |
| 19:27.43 | abrotman | :) |
| 19:27.47 | abrotman | !cheesesteak enouf |
| 19:27.54 | enouf | yummy ;-) |
| 19:28.04 | xingu | I was introduced to cheese fries the other day |
| 19:28.05 | abrotman | i get one later! |
| 19:28.09 | xingu | dietry abomination |
| 19:28.11 | serengeti | abrotman, I've realised that a bit too late |
| 19:28.11 | abrotman | xingu: have you tried poutine ? |
| 19:28.21 | abrotman | serengeti: isn't your old kernel still there ? |
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| 19:28.28 | abrotman | !poutine |
| 19:28.29 | dpkg | http://www.xavinho.online.fr/travels/america/montreal/poutine.jpg or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine |
| 19:28.30 | abrotman | xingu: ^^ |
| 19:28.41 | serengeti | abrotman, yep it's still in /boot but lilo shows me no option to use it |
| 19:28.46 | xingu | gah |
| 19:28.52 | xingu | my eyes.. the goggles, they do nothing |
| 19:29.12 | xingu | abrotman: you're missing something, let me see, what is it - oh yes, mushy peas. |
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| 19:30.57 | enouf | !lilo |
| 19:30.57 | dpkg | i heard lilo is the LInux LOader, and the head of staff of irc.freenode.net (who isn't named after the LInux LOader) |
| 19:31.13 | abrotman | serengeti: i haven't used lilo in quite a while |
| 19:31.17 | EightEleven | serengeti: You could try to use a live CD like Knoppix and restore things from there |
| 19:31.18 | xingu | ex-head, surely |
| 19:31.19 | enouf | isn't there a manual somewhere? |
| 19:31.21 | EightEleven | I had to do that once. |
| 19:31.23 | abrotman | serengeti: how did you install ? |
| 19:31.32 | serengeti | abrotman, it got installed by default |
| 19:31.39 | abrotman | i meant debian :)P |
| 19:32.10 | serengeti | abrotman, well I used etch businesscard iso image |
| 19:32.28 | abrotman | hrm .. i don't think it has rescue abilities |
| 19:32.42 | abrotman | got a froppy drive? |
| 19:33.13 | serengeti | well it has, i tried the rescue mode and did apt-get remove linux-image-686 from there but nothing's changed |
| 19:33.34 | EightEleven | Serengeti: Did you use chroot? |
| 19:33.48 | abrotman | serengeti: that's because it's still trying to boot that |
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| 19:34.37 | linux3 | hi, i cannot get oss to load at boot |
| 19:34.43 | linux3 | lsmod shows that i have oss modules loaded |
| 19:34.50 | linux3 | but yet there is no /dev/dsp |
| 19:34.53 | linux3 | can anyone help? |
| 19:34.57 | EightEleven | Serengetti: You have to run lilo again from the rescue cd. |
| 19:35.01 | serengeti | EightEleven, debian installer in rescue mode asked me which partition to use as / and I got some basic shell so I guess it was chrooted |
| 19:35.08 | EightEleven | Serengetti: but with some extra parameters |
| 19:35.42 | EightEleven | Serengetti: Lilo-bootloader is in the MBR, so you write a new MBR each time you run lilo. |
| 19:36.09 | serengeti | should I maybe edit lilo.conf, remove the -686 entry and run lilo while in chroot? |
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| 19:38.18 | EightEleven | Serengeti: Yes, fix lilo.conf and run lilo again with the correct parameters. (possibly from chroot) |
| 19:38.38 | bullgard1 | In order to repair my Debian etch I downloaded debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso. I want to check if my CD is error-free. I checked the MD5 sum of one of the files downloades, i. e. ./.disk/base-components. Its MD5 sum is correct. But there are too many files on my new CD. Is there a procedure to check the md5 sums of all files? |
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| 19:40.14 | RiverRat | bullgard1: There should be an MD5 checksum for the entire ISO image |
| 19:40.34 | bullgard1 | RiverRat: I will check that. |
| 19:41.05 | serengeti | thanks I'll try that, but I find it strange that there's no option to use previous kernel when you install a new one.. nevermind, I should've checked if k6-2 is a 686 before switching kernels :) |
| 19:42.24 | enouf | serengeti: I recall the lilo docs telling you , you must run lilo .. before trying to boot into newer kernel, yet there are other options, like -r, and holding the shift key(?) during bootup .. but I'm not sure |
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| 19:42.33 | bullgard1 | RiverRat: No, I could not find a MD5 sum for the entire ISO image in the file md5sum.txt. |
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| 19:43.07 | RiverRat | bullgard1: Where did you download the iso from? Isn't there an MD5 on the same site? |
| 19:43.08 | enouf | bullgard1: the md5sum file will be where you d/l the ISO from |
| 19:43.44 | bullgard1 | I will try to find a MD5 checksum from the download site. |
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| 19:43.46 | Muisje | itchi, why aren't you in #debian-nl? |
| 19:44.18 | enouf | bullgard1: actually .. if you boot the CD, it should contain a CheckCD/Verify CD option or similar .. IIRC |
| 19:44.37 | serengeti | enouf, i think apt-get ran lilo automatically when I installed the new kernel package |
| 19:44.47 | itchi | Muisje: Man, i'm just back of FOSDEM :-) |
| 19:44.58 | Muisje | FOSDEM? |
| 19:45.07 | itchi | Muisje: /topic |
| 19:45.24 | enouf | serengeti: I see.. |
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| 19:45.53 | Muisje | :o |
| 19:46.13 | Muisje | lol ok |
| 19:46.31 | logox | selam |
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| 19:46.35 | alexIdoia | hi I would like to chroot using sftp to their home but I don't know what shell to give them that does it, xsh does not |
| 19:46.40 | logox | hi all |
| 19:46.53 | alexIdoia | hi I would like to chroot users using sftp to their home but I don't know what shell to give them that does it, xsh does not |
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| 19:47.01 | logox | whats is your operating system web server? |
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| 19:47.17 | Assid | heya |
| 19:47.22 | Assid | r5 ? |
| 19:47.24 | alexIdoia | logox, is that for me ? |
| 19:47.24 | Assid | wow |
| 19:47.25 | itchi | Muisje: Buyed my lovely Debian tshirt and that of Fosdem :-) |
| 19:47.32 | logox | yes? |
| 19:47.34 | serengeti | aahhh the shift key did the trick! |
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| 19:47.46 | serengeti | enouf, thanks :) |
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| 19:47.54 | mcbane | hi |
| 19:48.20 | logox | hi |
| 19:48.21 | enouf | serengeti: did it help :-P .. lol |
| 19:48.24 | Assid | hey |
| 19:48.31 | Assid | can someone help me with setting openvpn |
| 19:48.53 | enouf | serengeti: ahhh .. nice .. |
| 19:48.59 | pinx | How can I get my laptop keyboard to go international? - I need to type english, french, spanish, portuguese, russian and bulgarian |
| 19:48.59 | serengeti | enouf, it did let me select the previous kernel :) thanks a million |
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| 19:49.08 | enouf | serengeti: welcome ;-) |
| 19:49.35 | logox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:50.46 | enouf | pinx: dpkg-reconfigure locales, and /msg dpkg xmodmap perhaps |
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| 19:51.24 | CharminTheMoose | question: is it safe to fsck a readonly partition? |
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| 19:51.31 | enouf | pinx: and loadkeys? gotta hit the various man pages .. also check out the console-data pkg .. /msg dpkg keymap |
| 19:51.32 | pinx | enouf: yea -- I did the locales, but I need to re-map the keyboard |
| 19:51.53 | pinx | enouf: ah-ha -- keymap -- thanks |
| 19:52.04 | enouf | no prob |
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| 19:52.47 | bullgard1 | enouf: Yes I found a checksum there. But I do not know the syntax for my md5sum program to check a whole tree of files. Although I read man md5sum. md5sum /media/cdrom0/* does not work. There is not recursive switch either. |
| 19:53.28 | Muisje | lol itchi... |
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| 19:53.41 | enouf | CharminTheMoose: sure .. though it may not do anything other than report issues .. but be careful .. especially if ext2 only .. I would do it either as shutdown -rF, or from a livecd |
| 19:53.48 | Muisje | I personally ain't the kind of guy who would ever consider or EVEN GO to such meeting... |
| 19:53.54 | Muisje | But i appreciate people who do. |
| 19:54.06 | enouf | bullgard1: I'm not to good with it myself :-( |
| 19:54.11 | CharminTheMoose | enouf: danke! |
| 19:54.31 | enouf | CharminTheMoose: come back in one piece ;-) |
| 19:54.59 | enouf | !say bitte CharminTheMoose |
| 19:54.59 | dpkg | bitte CharminTheMoose |
| 19:55.40 | enouf | dumb packederm .. lol |
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| 19:56.49 | CharminTheMoose | hehe |
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| 19:57.40 | Muisje | !say i love enouf |
| 19:57.41 | dpkg | i love enouf |
| 19:57.43 | Muisje | :o |
| 19:58.10 | Muisje | Isn't this kind of a thing that is asking to be abused? |
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| 19:59.02 | CharminTheMoose | Muisje: defintaly! |
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| 19:59.29 | hark | !love CharminTheMoose |
| 19:59.50 | ruied | I have ekiga backport but it reports an error: "No audio plugin", what can I do? |
| 20:00.01 | CharminTheMoose | ##linux rather... |
| 20:00.13 | enouf | !gothsmite Muisje |
| 20:00.18 | hark | !bot abuse |
| 20:00.19 | enouf | :-p |
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| 20:00.34 | psyche__ | how i can extract .rar? |
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| 20:00.46 | CharminTheMoose | unrar? |
| 20:01.11 | psyche__ | unknown command |
| 20:01.15 | Muisje | I don't know but isn't dpkg suppose to be more of a Helpfull bot then to be an spam vulnerable bot? |
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| 20:01.49 | serengeti | heh, for some reason hdc became hda so the system can't start even though the kernel is ok now... guess i have to adjust fstab but why would device names change like that? i have an external ide controller but didn't change a thing in bios or whatever |
| 20:02.01 | hark | psyche__: install it |
| 20:02.06 | Muisje | Wow... i'm failing at A and AN again... |
| 20:02.12 | CharminTheMoose | !smite Muisje |
| 20:02.20 | Muisje | !help |
| 20:02.28 | xand | HALP |
| 20:02.36 | Muisje | !freshmeat |
| 20:02.37 | dpkg | i guess freshmeat is at http://freshmeat.net/, or _the_ place to search for whatever piece of software you know of/have heard of/dreamt of ... |
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| 20:03.28 | abrotman | Muisje: you can /ignore the bot if you choose |
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| 20:03.38 | itchi | Muisje: Man!, you not know what you have missed! FOSDEM is sooo great :-) |
| 20:03.39 | Muisje | abrotman, i personally don't mind |
| 20:04.07 | Muisje | But i can understand that dpkg would be an easy target for trolls |
| 20:04.31 | Muisje | itchi, i'm not the kind of person that would go there :) |
| 20:04.35 | itchi | Muisje: If you want you can download the movies of the previous event http://www.fosdem.org/2007/media/video |
| 20:04.35 | pinx | Muisje: talking to the bot is a sure sign of more serious problem |
| 20:04.58 | pinx | s/problem/problems |
| 20:05.10 | itchi | Muisje: Maybe btw look for the debconf movies and such |
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| 20:06.24 | Muisje | itchi i'm not that into debian ;) |
| 20:06.35 | Muisje | I'm already glad i can maintain my debian server :) |
| 20:06.48 | utab | I am looking for a tool to monitor cpu usage at the toolbar |
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| 20:06.52 | bullgard1 | RiverRat: Can you advise me how to compute the MD5 sum of my CD using the md5sum command. I could not find any recursive switch for that command. |
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| 20:07.01 | Muisje | I don't even know how i could ever recompile the kernel, not that i feel like to, cause then i'd probably read some docs about it. |
| 20:07.02 | serengeti | i passed root=/dev/hdc1 to the kernel and it booted fine but I don't really get it anyway ;) thanks for all the help |
| 20:07.24 | itchi | Muisje: To be honnest, it was my Python day, tomorrow it's 70% Debian and 30% Python |
| 20:07.30 | js_ | bullgard1: md5sum /dev/cdrom |
| 20:07.33 | RiverRat | bullgard1: You have to do it to the iso prior to mounting it or chrooting into it. |
| 20:07.40 | Quintin | Anyone wanna play some WarcraftII with me? |
| 20:07.47 | RiverRat | Or maybe not. |
| 20:08.16 | Muisje | itchi, python is more of a snaketype to me then as a programming language :) |
| 20:08.34 | itchi | Muisje: Kernel recompile is /peace of cake/, maybe look to this http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/guicms/html/articles/one.php?number=118#kernel_recompiling |
| 20:08.50 | itchi | Muisje: :-p |
| 20:09.07 | Muisje | What part of "not that i feel like to" didn't you understand? :) |
| 20:09.29 | itchi | Muisje: :-p |
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| 20:10.25 | itchi | utab: Which DE use you? |
| 20:10.32 | Muisje | !ircstats |
| 20:10.32 | dpkg | I'm connected to irc.us.freenode.net:6667 and have been so for 8h 5m 20s |
| 20:11.00 | bullgard1 | js_: md5sum /dev/cdrom outputs "md5sum: /media/cdrom0: Is a directory" |
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| 20:11.17 | Muisje | i'm 6 hours and 21 minutes on here. |
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| 20:11.39 | utab | itchi: kde mainly |
| 20:12.06 | abrotman | utab: kde i'm sure has some applet for that |
| 20:12.09 | xrz | I have new Windows vista and I want to put netinstall disk on USB port. |
| 20:12.24 | itchi | utab: There's a built-in cpu monitor, click with the right button on a pannel and add that applet from that list there |
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| 20:13.17 | jeffwheeler | Why does Debian not allow users to use sudo by default, but does allow su? |
| 20:13.18 | xrz | I need some program that does a cat netinstall.iso to /dev/USBport in Windows. |
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| 20:13.32 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 20:13.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 20:14.17 | xrz | I read that page already, it wants Linux already installed. |
| 20:14.23 | utab | itchi: yep I tried that but could not find |
| 20:14.38 | utab | itchi let me check again |
| 20:14.47 | enouf | utab: check out conky |
| 20:14.54 | bullgard1 | RiverRat: I do not understand your answer. So far I have not mounted my CDROM and still the simple command 'md5sum /media/cdrom0' does not work. |
| 20:15.18 | enouf | utab: apt-cache show conky .. visit conky.sf.net |
| 20:15.21 | RiverRat | bullgard1: Have you burned the iso to a cdrom? |
| 20:15.41 | bullgard1 | Yes. |
| 20:15.46 | utab | enouf thx I will see |
| 20:15.57 | xrz | Do I need to burn the iso to a cdrom? |
| 20:16.14 | xrz | I rather just stick it on the USB drive |
| 20:16.25 | RiverRat | bullgard1: See, I would have checked prior to burning. |
| 20:16.30 | xrz | How to burn the iso to cdrom anyway using WIndows? |
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| 20:16.51 | bullgard1 | But then you are still not sure that your CD is okay. |
| 20:16.54 | wols | xrz: google cdburnerxp |
| 20:17.02 | xrz | I have vista |
| 20:17.10 | wols | so? |
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| 20:17.14 | RiverRat | bullgard1: I'd try js_'s suggestion of md5sum /dev/cdrom but I've never done a checksum on a cd that way. |
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| 20:17.22 | enouf | xyr: there are tons of apps in losedows .. search google for Imgburn, and or use Nero |
| 20:17.34 | bullgard1 | Ok, thank you. |
| 20:17.37 | itchi | enouf: wooaaa, that look nice |
| 20:17.45 | enouf | itchi: yep ;-) |
| 20:17.51 | xyr | Mishighlight? :) |
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| 20:17.55 | xrz | Which app is easiest. |
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| 20:18.10 | wols | k3b is easiest |
| 20:18.11 | xrz | WIll nero put the image on the USB port? |
| 20:18.17 | nomasteryoda | ya k3b is super |
| 20:18.19 | RiverRat | bullgard1: And as for verifying the burn, once you verify the iso with md5sum you can just have the burn process verify the CD data to the original iso data. |
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| 20:18.28 | Thug-N-Me | hi all |
| 20:18.31 | RiverRat | k3b++ |
| 20:18.34 | wols | shouldnt you ask windows questions in windows channels? |
| 20:18.42 | nomasteryoda | howdy Thug-N-Me |
| 20:18.44 | Thug-N-Me | does anyone know a good package that allows me to edit subtitles ? |
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| 20:18.59 | itchi | RiverRat: Wanted to giva a karma point to k3B?? :-) |
| 20:19.00 | RiverRat | wols: Yes, I usually send them to ##windows |
| 20:19.03 | nomasteryoda | hmmmm, there are some in the repos... |
| 20:19.07 | enouf | this is the question i was answering --> "<xrz> How to burn the iso to cdrom anyway using WIndows?" |
| 20:19.12 | bullgard1 | Yes, but I did not want to rely on the burn process verification routine. |
| 20:19.15 | RiverRat | itchi: More like saying it is a great app. |
| 20:19.26 | nomasteryoda | Thug-N-Me, did you apt-cache search subtitles |
| 20:19.34 | itchi | RiverRat: That's a karma feature for the bot nickname++ |
| 20:19.39 | RiverRat | We used to have a karma bot in #gentoo and beer always had the most karma. |
| 20:19.41 | itchi | RiverRat: hehe |
| 20:20.12 | psyche__ | how i can disable debian sounds? |
| 20:20.19 | xrz | Let me state my question in Debian terms, what is fastest way to get Debian running on a fresh computer from Best Buy |
| 20:20.25 | enouf | xyr: and YES .. see ##windows for those related questions please |
| 20:20.32 | enouf | bah |
| 20:20.33 | psyche__ | i dont want to hear "PLIIP!" while feeding commands |
| 20:20.59 | xyr | enouf, hmm? |
| 20:21.06 | bullgard1 | psyche__: You need to disengage from the sound group. |
| 20:21.06 | enouf | xrz: I mean you .. not xyr |
| 20:21.11 | xyr | Ah okay. |
| 20:21.12 | enouf | what a mess :-P |
| 20:21.16 | xyr | :D |
| 20:21.23 | Mark_Iron | HI ;-) .. how is it possible to set the "boot-file" on the openBoot PROM on a sparc machine? (error message during a try to boot etch) - thank you in adnance for any hints ;-) |
| 20:21.40 | utab | itchi: I am still in the search for a cpu monitor among applets, can you help me on the exact location if you know that |
| 20:21.40 | xrz | Isnt installing Debian a Debian question? |
| 20:22.02 | enouf | yes.. but that one windows question was for ##windows |
| 20:22.07 | Mark_Iron | xrz: I would say YES *g* |
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| 20:22.24 | itchi | utab: Eeuhm, i run fluxbox right now :-) |
| 20:22.31 | itchi | like usual :-p |
| 20:22.47 | utab | itchi: :-S |
| 20:22.53 | itchi | utab: Maybe miss you a package? |
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| 20:22.54 | Gryfelhase | I've a question: Is there a limit in avidemus for avi-filesize? |
| 20:23.02 | xrz | Do all you guys buy machines that have no Windows? |
| 20:23.06 | itchi | utab: Wait, gona logout |
| 20:23.07 | amphi | utab: gkrellm has one, as do many others, including the monaing goat meter |
| 20:23.23 | amphi | *moaning goat |
| 20:23.24 | Mark_Iron | yes xrz ;-) * not windows AT ALL * |
| 20:23.33 | nomasteryoda | xrz, not me... i get mine given to me... with infected windows... that i wipe |
| 20:23.37 | nomasteryoda | =D |
| 20:23.42 | utab | amphi: hmmmm let me see |
| 20:23.51 | Mark_Iron | *lol* @ nomasteryoda |
| 20:23.56 | xrz | I am WIndows wanting to add Debian and being thrown out of the chat |
| 20:24.16 | nomasteryoda | you want to dualboot? |
| 20:24.21 | enouf | xrz: now that's niot even close to being true .. stop the FUD crap |
| 20:24.31 | xrz | I just want to boot |
| 20:24.33 | enouf | !confuse xrz |
| 20:24.33 | dpkg | Yes, where was our bacon tomorrow, xrz? shirts of the democracy of micronesia with extra cream |
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| 20:24.45 | amphi | xrz: what is the problem? |
| 20:25.12 | xrz | I have the Debian netinstall disk downloaded on Vista. Now I need to boot from it. |
| 20:25.13 | Gryfelhase | xrz: Do you want to switsch between debian and linux by startup? |
| 20:25.39 | amphi | xrz: so burn it and boot it |
| 20:25.44 | Gryfelhase | xrz: Anowther way is, to make first experience with a virtual maschine, if your compuiter is fast enough |
| 20:25.51 | xrz | I have netinstall image downloaded rather |
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| 20:25.59 | wols | xrz: go there: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
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| 20:26.18 | xrz | That looks good I try that one |
| 20:26.34 | utab | amphi: this is more than I need but looks nice though |
| 20:26.51 | amphi | utab: 'this'? |
| 20:26.52 | xrz | That looks too drastic |
| 20:26.53 | mcbane_ | I am in a LAN (my IP is 134.93.51.203) and there is a PPTP VPN Server on another computer in same subnetwork. If I now connect to the VPN Server i get the aditional IP 192.168.0.10 but I am not able to connect to others, like google, anymore, till I disconnect the vpn. Is that a failure in the PPTP Server configuration, or is it impossible to have a VPN tunnel and use the lan at the same time? |
| 20:26.53 | utab | amphi : thx :} |
| 20:26.54 | itchi | utab: Right click on pannel and select 'Add Applet ...' then select 'System Guard' |
| 20:27.11 | Mark_Iron | xrz: It would be much BETTER to download sidux - http://www.sidux.com/Article116.html - it is debian BASED and I would recommend it to every beginner ! ;-) |
| 20:27.12 | utab | xrz : Drastic :-} |
| 20:27.18 | enouf | !tell xzr about grounding |
| 20:27.24 | utab | itchi : I see |
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| 20:27.43 | vlt|home | mcbane_: Maybe your default route is changed when connected to vpn. |
| 20:27.58 | yacc | Just wondering, my udev seems to miss the rules for USB scanners => which package brings them with itself? |
| 20:28.03 | itchi | utab: These looks not sooo beautifull :-s |
| 20:28.11 | vlt|home | mcbane_: You can check this with `route` or `ip route show` |
| 20:28.16 | xrz | I am not a beginner, I just need to cat image to usb port using windows. |
| 20:28.21 | enouf | yacc: SANE I think |
| 20:28.24 | wols | yacc: anythine SANE related? |
| 20:28.33 | mcbane_ | vlt|home: so I have to configure that myself as client? It is not impossible to use LAN and VPN tunnel at the same time? |
| 20:28.41 | Mark_Iron | xrz: *sorry* .. |
| 20:28.42 | yacc | Well, I did update sane just now, and still nothing :( |
| 20:29.01 | enouf | yacc: need a module? |
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| 20:29.06 | utab | itchi I have that but it is not on the toolbar |
| 20:29.27 | utab | itchi: you have to click that to see the processes |
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| 20:29.34 | yacc | enouf, no the udev rules so that the devices get a group "scanner". |
| 20:29.42 | xrz | I asked question in #windows also |
| 20:29.44 | enouf | yacc: etch? |
| 20:29.47 | xrz | No answer yet. |
| 20:29.58 | vlt|home | mcbane_: It should be. The problem is maybe that you get a new (but dead) default route from the vpn server ... |
| 20:30.01 | yacc | enouf: testing/unstable, guess so. |
| 20:30.02 | bingofuel | hello, i just install the kernel 2.6 with the kernel-image, and when i try to use apt say "The Method Driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found... what can i fixed? |
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| 20:30.11 | amphi | itchi: 'buerk'?;) |
| 20:30.12 | vlt|home | mcbane_: What is your default route when not connected? |
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| 20:30.20 | itchi | amphi: D |
| 20:30.24 | itchi | amphi: KDE haha |
| 20:30.34 | amphi | ah ;) |
| 20:30.49 | Mark_Iron | xrz: for my private and most of my business activities I don't need Windows at all |
| 20:30.50 | mcbane_ | vlt|home: I am using a mac for work here and i have no plan what it is doing in the background. |
| 20:31.06 | streuner_ | markw: cool |
| 20:31.08 | xrz | What the hell is that debian.exe program? |
| 20:31.13 | streuner_ | Mark_Iron: cool |
| 20:31.20 | enouf | yacc: try /etc/init.d/udev restart .. also see the udev manpages .. (including udevtrigger) |
| 20:31.25 | vlt|home | mcbane_: So are you sure we can help you here in #debian? |
| 20:31.43 | wols | mcbane_: ordering more apple hard and software at the apple shophis steveness needs a bonus |
| 20:32.13 | mcbane_ | vlt|home: the server is debian and there I know most of the time what i am doing. I thought the problem was server side, not client side. Thats's why I am here |
| 20:32.17 | Mark_Iron | streuner_: why cool? .. what about you? |
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| 20:32.26 | jeffwheeler | if I make any changes during my live session after following these instructions, http://d-i.pascal.at/, is there any way to make it save whatever I've changed? |
| 20:32.27 | yacc | enouf: grep -r scanner /etc/udev only give SCSI entries. |
| 20:32.31 | jeffwheeler | or will it by default? |
| 20:32.36 | utab | itchi: is there sth else you know? This is not so important for me but wondering |
| 20:32.41 | yacc | enouf: restarting it won't add configuration rules, won't it? |
| 20:32.55 | vlt|home | mcbane_: Aah, the server is debian ;-) |
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| 20:33.01 | streuner_ | Mark_Iron: i use windows to play games ;-) |
| 20:33.07 | itchi | utab: sth? |
| 20:33.12 | |capiira | anyone here know how to get that small volume systray icon in kde? |
| 20:33.18 | utab | itchi : cpu monitor |
| 20:33.23 | wols | streuner_: and you will probably be reborn as a slug for it |
| 20:33.29 | enouf | yacc: not sure .. that's what man pages are for , but I sometimes restart services, if i think there's a "glitch" somewhee |
| 20:33.32 | vlt|home | mcbane_: hmmm ... I'm not familiar with the shell commands on OS X :( |
| 20:33.47 | Mark_Iron | streuner_: why not .. If you like to play .. I don't want to waste my time with games .. * so far * ;-) |
| 20:33.54 | itchi | utab: Depend of what you like, enouf showed the nice conky stuff, looks nice also |
| 20:34.19 | enouf | yacc: dmesg shows your USB scanner as recognized? .. what about lsusb ? |
| 20:34.24 | itchi | utab: I use here some wm applets in my fluxbox http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/imgs/screenshots/fluxbox_actual1.jpg |
| 20:34.29 | mcbane_ | vlt|home: me nether. But with the hint of the default route I am far more on the road than before. Thank you :) |
| 20:34.29 | yacc | enouf: yes. |
| 20:34.38 | xrz | So debian.exe does not erase windows |
| 20:34.42 | yacc | enouf: I just want to change the permission on the USB device file. |
| 20:34.55 | xrz | I had to do a reinstall of Vista last night and it took 10 hours |
| 20:35.01 | itchi | utab: Each applet is separeted and finally looks a bit similar to that gkrellm |
| 20:35.04 | HymnToLife | yacc, /proc/bus/usb/00x/00x |
| 20:35.04 | xand | ewww vista |
| 20:35.06 | xand | disgusting |
| 20:35.09 | yacc | enouf: it's an udev configuration file problem, and I wonder why these USB rules are missing in the Debian config files. |
| 20:35.13 | yacc | HymnToLife: I know. |
| 20:35.16 | HymnToLife | you'll find what you need to put instead of x in lsusb |
| 20:35.21 | yacc | Hydroxide: /dev/bus/usb/xxx/yyy |
| 20:35.22 | Thug-N-Me | nomasteryoda ever worked with subtitleeditor ? |
| 20:35.26 | xrz | Vista is a slow pig |
| 20:35.29 | yacc | HymnToLife: /dev/bus/usb/xxx/yyy |
| 20:35.36 | HymnToLife | same thing |
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| 20:35.44 | linux3 | hey can anyone help me with getting oss sound to work? |
| 20:35.48 | linux3 | it just doesn't seem to load at boot |
| 20:35.52 | xrz | So Debian.exe does not erase Windows? |
| 20:35.58 | yacc | HymnToLife: I want udev to set the right permission when the thing gets plugged in. sudo chgrp is so archaic ;) |
| 20:35.59 | linux3 | and i cannot figure out what has to be loaded to make alsa and oss work? |
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| 20:36.16 | enouf | yacc: hrm . I have nmo scanner and yet; |
| 20:36.17 | enouf | grep -ir scanner /etc/udev/ |
| 20:36.19 | enouf | /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libsane.rules:# The following list already contains a lot of scanners. If your scanner |
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| 20:36.21 | utab | itchi it looks pretty fine :P |
| 20:36.23 | Supaplex | 10 hours to reinstall vista? what are you on, a p133? |
| 20:36.26 | itchi | xrz: Maybe try it out in a virtual computer?? |
| 20:36.39 | bingofuel | the method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found? |
| 20:36.45 | utab | itchi : I liked that |
| 20:36.46 | Supaplex | xrz: ask in #debian-boot about debian.exe |
| 20:36.47 | xrz | I am on a 2.4 gigaherts AMD 4600 with 2 gigs of ram |
| 20:36.59 | enouf | yacc: so you plug and unplug it? |
| 20:37.03 | vlt|home | Hello. Does anyone know how to configure apache to redirect all requests coming not on certain interfaces to https? Something pdeudo config like "--destination ! 192.168.1.1 && ! 10.8.0.1 && ! 127.0.0.1 -j REDIR https://${HOST}/${REQUEST}" ... |
| 20:37.04 | Supaplex | my amd2600 in vmware only took 30m or so total. |
| 20:37.06 | |capiira | 10h crazy |
| 20:37.10 | Mark_Iron | xrz: it sounds GOOD ! ;o) |
| 20:37.12 | enouf | yacc: trhat's a function of your DE if you use one |
| 20:37.14 | xrz | And vist crawls |
| 20:37.19 | enouf | yacc: like KDE, or Gnome |
| 20:37.19 | xrz | vista crawls |
| 20:37.22 | mcbane_ | vlt|home: found a solution ( http://200.115.165.213/2006/07/28/1154106600000.html ) thanks to you :) |
| 20:37.23 | xand | vlt|home: yes, but not like that |
| 20:37.28 | yacc | enouf: exactly, I've just go a lowly and small laptop. |
| 20:37.30 | Supaplex | xrz: what's the vista experience index? |
| 20:37.31 | enouf | yacc: and hal, dbus etc |
| 20:37.39 | yacc | enouf: nope, that's the function of udev |
| 20:37.45 | enouf | yacc: wanna bet? |
| 20:37.50 | Mark_Iron | !paste |
| 20:37.50 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 20:37.53 | xrz | Slow to boot and quick to crash |
| 20:37.56 | yacc | enouf: ./rules.d/020_permissions.rules:SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{type}=="3", ATTRS{vendor}=="HP",GROUP="scanner" |
| 20:38.01 | |capiira | maybe took so long because you build your own system :)?!?! |
| 20:38.09 | itchi | utab: Look here http://dockapps.org/ |
| 20:38.14 | yacc | enouf: Where are the USB rules, especially the ones that I can easily find in googled results? |
| 20:38.18 | Supaplex | xrz: I'm all for fud, but are you actually running it? vista has a index reportting |
| 20:38.21 | xand | vint-cerft: |
| 20:38.23 | xand | RewriteEngine On |
| 20:38.23 | xand | RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} !^443$ |
| 20:38.23 | xand | RewriteRule ^/(.*) https://%{SERVER_NAME}/$1 [L,R] |
| 20:38.30 | xand | oops! |
| 20:38.33 | Supaplex | xrz: I'll grab some screenshots |
| 20:38.34 | itchi | utab: But first look if these you want is already packaged |
| 20:38.36 | xand | I pasted, naughty me |
| 20:38.46 | bullgard1 | I need a definition of a 'loop device'. |
| 20:38.58 | Mark_Iron | xrz: look inside ;-) http://channels.debian.net/paste/5487 |
| 20:38.59 | enouf | yacc: read /usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html |
| 20:39.08 | itchi | utab: At my knowledges these applets not yet runs fine in KDE i think :-s |
| 20:39.08 | xand | erm |
| 20:39.20 | utab | itchi: xfce ? |
| 20:39.20 | xand | vlt|home: that was for you |
| 20:39.20 | xrz | It reformatted the HD which took awhile |
| 20:39.34 | xand | (at least it works in apache 1.3) |
| 20:39.36 | vlt|home | xand: Yes, thank you, trying to unserstand it ... |
| 20:39.47 | xrz | Noone is in Debian-boot |
| 20:39.50 | enouf | yacc: I would make sure you ave hal, and dbus installed .. dpkg -l hal dbus dbus-1 will tell you |
| 20:39.52 | xand | it rewrites http://server/blah to https://server/blah |
| 20:39.55 | xrz | I am going to run debian.exe I think |
| 20:40.09 | xand | by checking to see which port is used |
| 20:40.17 | xrz | Noone knows what the hell debian.exe does? |
| 20:40.28 | xand | wtf is debian.exe? |
| 20:40.30 | yacc | enouf: dbus there is, hal too. |
| 20:40.36 | enouf | yacc: for ex; gnome-volume-mamager sets/controls gnome hotplug events |
| 20:40.38 | Supaplex | xrz: http://www.goodbye-windows.com/ is all I know |
| 20:40.40 | yacc | enouf: btw, I don't use KDE nor Gnome ;) |
| 20:40.41 | Supaplex | !debian.exe |
| 20:40.46 | enouf | yacc: ok .. |
| 20:40.46 | Supaplex | !debian.exe is see http://www.goodbye-windows.com/ |
| 20:40.46 | dpkg | Supaplex: okay |
| 20:40.56 | enouf | yacc: just checking :-P |
| 20:41.12 | enouf | yacc: gotta write your rules then I guess |
| 20:41.29 | dav_ | juts one question how to view bind cache ? |
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| 20:41.37 | Quintin | \o/ for debian |
| 20:41.38 | itchi | utab: I dunno :-) i run Fluxbox :-) |
| 20:41.45 | vlt|home | xand: How can I combine several rules? "RewriteCond %{SERVER_ADDRESS} !^10.8.0.1$ && %{SERVER_ADDRESS} !^192.168.1.11$" ...? |
| 20:41.49 | dav_ | see a list of all the request made through named |
| 20:41.55 | xrz | Vista wont let debian.exe run |
| 20:42.04 | xand | vlt|home: dunno... #apache :) |
| 20:42.12 | enouf | xrz: it's not yet ready for Blista ..AFAIK |
| 20:42.13 | vlt|home | xand: And is %{SERVER_ADDRESS} correct? |
| 20:42.16 | Supaplex | xrz: it runs in my vmware machine. |
| 20:42.20 | itchi | utab: Gona try it out right now |
| 20:42.20 | vlt|home | xand: Ok I'll try there ... |
| 20:42.26 | Supaplex | oh yea, but it won't launch the boot loader |
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| 20:42.36 | yacc | enouf: why are they not there? Or let put it differently, why are the scsi rules there? |
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| 20:42.51 | enouf | yacc: i have no friggin clue :-) |
| 20:42.55 | Supaplex | see the FAQ on the page |
| 20:43.06 | utab | itchi : thx |
| 20:43.11 | enouf | yacc: and I'm happy about it :-P |
| 20:43.16 | xrz | Do I have to burn a stinking knoppix disk to get the ISO image to boot? |
| 20:43.40 | Supaplex | xrz: no, just use d-i for that directly. |
| 20:43.42 | Supaplex | !d-i |
| 20:43.43 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. |
| 20:43.46 | itchi | utab: Looks like it not like it too |
| 20:44.01 | utab | itchi : hmmm |
| 20:44.12 | utab | itchi : I will check gkrellm |
| 20:44.35 | itchi | utab: ow, yeah, try that out, and conky ;-) |
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| 20:45.36 | xrz | I went to Knoppix, they suggest Nero |
| 20:46.19 | Supaplex | xrz: why are you using knoppix to .. install debian? |
| 20:47.04 | xrz | I went to Knoppix for instructions on getting bootable image |
| 20:47.15 | xrz | I really want a bootable USB image though |
| 20:47.19 | Supaplex | oh to burn it. |
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| 20:48.16 | wols | xrz: ur question towhat burn program to use was answered about an hour ago by several people |
| 20:48.18 | Supaplex | xrz: let me find the usb instructions. |
| 20:48.23 | wols | continuing to ask won |
| 20:48.26 | wols | wont help you |
| 20:48.47 | |capiira | sooo nobody here know how to get that small volume systray icon in kde? |
| 20:48.48 | utab | itchi: is that possible to add gkrellm as an applet |
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| 20:49.13 | craigevil | |capiira: kmix? |
| 20:49.21 | enouf | yep |
| 20:49.26 | itchi | utab: gkrellm have many applets in 'one' |
| 20:49.39 | |capiira | yeah kmix ,its installed but the icon wont appear |
| 20:50.06 | enouf | right clcik the running app .. settings > blah blah |
| 20:50.11 | craigevil | |capiira: open it froma terminal and look for errors |
| 20:50.20 | itchi | utab: I mean it's one app that have little applets to put in that main stage of the gkrellm |
| 20:50.35 | enouf | try kcontrol as well for settings |
| 20:50.50 | |capiira | yeah but i would like to have the default icon :) |
| 20:51.02 | |capiira | sound works fine |
| 20:51.04 | itchi | utab: It's not like all my differents wm applet i have. These are all seperated, gkrellm is one thing |
| 20:51.18 | |capiira | just the icon don't appear |
| 20:51.19 | enouf | no comprehende .. and drop the pipe you cracjhead |
| 20:51.28 | Gokee2 | Finnly I got my main computers nvidia working again |
| 20:51.42 | Quintin | neat story: my mom and sister just visited |
| 20:51.43 | itchi | Gokee2: What did you bad?? :-) |
| 20:51.47 | Gokee2 | Its a pain to delete files on the wrong computer |
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| 20:52.32 | Supaplex | xrz: try irc.debian.org/#debian-boot for the debian.exe + usb questions |
| 20:52.35 | Quintin | first thing sister says "does this computer have the internet". "yes" I reply. "Does this computer have yahoo?" "well, it has gaim." "how do I use the internet?" "go to internet, then either firefox or opera" |
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| 20:53.03 | Quintin | she managed to chat with her little friends and get on myspace and do stuff without having her hand held. even mom did. yay! |
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| 20:53.59 | Gokee2 | Does anyone know a way to turn off a laptop screen (including backlight) and have it stay off until I move the mouse or some such |
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| 20:54.49 | enouf | Gokee2: which DE? |
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| 20:54.54 | Gokee2 | DE? |
| 20:55.02 | enouf | !de |
| 20:55.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 20:55.08 | enouf | bah |
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| 20:55.16 | enouf | Desktop Env Gokee2 |
| 20:55.22 | Gokee2 | Ah kde |
| 20:56.07 | davs | i have a question . how do i pair a bluetooth device with debian? |
| 20:56.10 | enouf | Gokee2: kcontrol >> peripherals >> display |
| 20:56.16 | davs | i can discover it. |
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| 20:56.33 | enouf | Gokee2: power Control tab |
| 20:56.40 | davs | i was able to do this on etch, but i can't on sid |
| 20:56.51 | TravellingSalesM | hello guys , which version of debian do you recommend for a home user , stable unstable or testing version? |
| 20:57.00 | enouf | TravellingSalesM: etch |
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| 20:57.16 | enouf | TravellingSalesM: which means tasting right now |
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| 20:57.22 | enouf | erm testing .. lol |
| 20:57.30 | Gokee2 | enouf, ok, I tried both standvy and suspend in that place and they did not turn off the moniter. |
| 20:57.53 | davs | TravellingSalesM: testing would be a good choice |
| 20:57.57 | enouf | Gokee2: just Standby should be fine |
| 20:58.08 | TravellingSalesM | thank you :) |
| 20:58.08 | Gokee2 | Standby blacked out the moniter exept for a white X in the middle of the screen and suspent did nothing |
| 20:58.08 | enouf | Gokee2: cat /proc/cmdline says what? |
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| 20:58.35 | Gokee2 | root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 20:58.39 | Supaplex | xrz: re vista experience index, http://armada.daxal.com/~supaplex/vmware/vistas/rating.png |
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| 20:58.53 | enouf | Gokee2: ok .. I don't know laptops well .. so /msg dpkg laptop |
| 20:59.14 | enouf | Gokee2: type that into your irc client and cvisit the URLs and find your make/Model, etc |
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| 21:00.04 | djoxy | jajaj |
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| 21:00.25 | djoxy | whats the cahnel? |
| 21:00.50 | karma_ | Hello! I use iproute and "ip monitor all" doesn't show changes in kernel arp table. Is there some way to fix it? |
| 21:00.58 | siebrand | Hi, someone was supposed to install a Debian server for me with some proper packages but failed miserably. I have very little experience with administering Linux and installing/removing packages. We're talking a specific version of PHP to be used with Apache (2.2 in this case). Help would be appreciated. Please let me know if you can assist me. |
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| 21:01.58 | AngusRF | is there a way to write to the stdin of a process which is sent to background by start-stop-daemon -b and of which only the pid is known? |
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| 21:02.36 | Supaplex | AngusRF: mmm not unless you redesign something around it. |
| 21:02.55 | Gokee2 | What the hell type of butten is that for iceweasly? Its horrid |
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| 21:03.17 | parsonsd | Gokee2 eh? |
| 21:03.35 | AngusRF | Supaplex, shortly that just means "not", right? |
| 21:03.51 | Gokee2 | It came up when I was able to get X working again a few min ago and I just saw it |
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| 21:04.25 | sidjster | holy crap |
| 21:04.33 | enouf | batman! |
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| 21:04.50 | sidjster | i got kernels coming out my ears |
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| 21:04.59 | enouf | too much popcon? |
| 21:05.00 | zealot | batman = you bats a man? |
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| 21:05.02 | parsonsd | sidjster, too much corn |
| 21:05.05 | xingu | AngusRF: ls -la /proc/${pid}/fd/0 will tell you what the stdin is currently attached to |
| 21:05.28 | xingu | AngusRF: the process itself would have to want to reopen stdin to give you a mechanism for what you want to do to it |
| 21:05.31 | sidjster | some guy gave me a ibm g72 monitor for 5 dollars |
| 21:05.53 | zealot | oh |
| 21:05.57 | rares000 | which mirror has the most up to date debs |
| 21:05.58 | sidjster | picture is weird almost cartoonish |
| 21:06.15 | rares000 | i'm looking for webmin 1.300+ |
| 21:06.20 | parsonsd | sidjster, i've got an nec xp17 you can have for near that. |
| 21:06.21 | AngusRF | xingu: and if i change that symlink to an open terminal? |
| 21:06.22 | sepski | rares000, the 1st level mirrors ftp.[countrycode].debian.org |
| 21:06.25 | parsonsd | hehe |
| 21:06.35 | sepski | !webmin |
| 21:06.35 | dpkg | it has been said that webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
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| 21:06.55 | sidjster | i got an nec 15 " multisynch |
| 21:07.11 | xingu | AngusRF: it doesn't quite work that way; you're looking at a representation of the process state, not an ordinary filesystem |
| 21:07.11 | sidjster | i love junk :( |
| 21:07.27 | sepski | sidjster, what nerd does not. |
| 21:07.32 | parsonsd | sidjster, well, the xp17 is ok junk. |
| 21:07.37 | sepski | sidjster, and their wifes hate them for it. |
| 21:07.56 | parsonsd | sepski, my wife collects some interesting junk. some of it isn't |
| 21:08.04 | dendrite | sidjster: What flavor of Debian? |
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| 21:08.11 | xingu | AngusRF: you can find out what stdin is attached to but you can't hijack stdin; you might be able to hijack what it's attached to, and if the application is expecting that fd to be truncated it will handle it gracefully. |
| 21:08.15 | Thms | can I install deb without SWAP ?? |
| 21:08.24 | Quintin | Thms: yes |
| 21:08.28 | xingu | AngusRF: but that's entirely between the application, its bugs, its author, and you |
| 21:08.29 | dendrite | siebrand: What flavor of Debian? |
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| 21:08.34 | streuner_ | Thms: its better you have swap |
| 21:08.37 | AngusRF | diificult to hijack /dev/null |
| 21:08.40 | Thms | why ? |
| 21:08.46 | Quintin | Thms: how much ram do you have? |
| 21:08.48 | parsonsd | i collectd two wd400 drives, a pair from a failed raid from her office |
| 21:08.49 | siebrand | dendrite: uname -a |
| 21:08.49 | siebrand | Linux srv096bh 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:08.49 | siebrand | uname -a |
| 21:08.49 | siebrand | Linux srv096bh 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 21:08.51 | Thms | 1gb |
| 21:08.54 | AngusRF | anyway, thank you xingu |
| 21:09.02 | enouf | heh |
| 21:09.04 | siebrand | oops, sorry. |
| 21:09.08 | Quintin | Thms: you're fine with no ram, for a basic desktop |
| 21:09.14 | dendrite | siebrand: That's your kernel. What distribution of Debian? |
| 21:09.39 | bzed | 2.6.18 sounds like etch |
| 21:09.46 | streuner_ | Thms: in case RAM is used, some data are away then... |
| 21:09.53 | Thms | okay :/ |
| 21:10.18 | Quintin | Thms: what are you using debian for? |
| 21:10.25 | Thms | desktop |
| 21:10.35 | Thms | how can I formate @ boot ? |
| 21:10.39 | streuner_ | Thms: usually the case if you have DE running and lots of sessions of a modern browser |
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| 21:10.50 | dendrite | siebrand: Please keep it in the channel. |
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| 21:10.56 | dendrite | siebrand: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:11.08 | siebrand | dendrit4.0 |
| 21:11.13 | peppe | Thms: it's always a good idea to have swap, however |
| 21:11.15 | dendrite | siebrand: Looks like etch. |
| 21:11.16 | Quintin | streuner_: I have two desktops, one 512m ram, 1 768m ram, they run fine without swap |
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| 21:11.31 | bzed | Quintin: sounds like you've never used eclipse :P |
| 21:11.33 | dendrite | siebrand: What, exactly, is the problem? |
| 21:11.37 | streuner_ | Thms: format = mkfs.(FS) in Linux |
| 21:11.45 | siebrand | ok, I need a php 5.0.4 installed in whichever version 2+ of Apache |
| 21:11.48 | Quintin | bzed: real men use vi |
| 21:11.54 | siebrand | I had a 4.4 in apache 2.2 |
| 21:11.58 | streuner_ | !start a editor war |
| 21:12.02 | streuner_ | !start an editor war |
| 21:12.02 | dpkg | xemacs sucks |
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| 21:12.11 | Guerin | the only time I ever hit swap on this 512MB machine was when I was running about twenty instances of eclipse |
| 21:12.15 | Guerin | bah |
| 21:12.18 | Guerin | not eclipse |
| 21:12.19 | siebrand | so I removed php4-common and libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 21:12.19 | Guerin | evince |
| 21:12.22 | Quintin | Only people that use emacs are mentally dysfunctional |
| 21:12.23 | bzed | Quintin: I'm a big fan of vi, but it sucks for large project. sometimes you just need a serious IDE |
| 21:13.00 | Quintin | bzed: so I hear 'real' programmers say. I don't do anything so big as to need one, yet. I hate coding |
| 21:13.01 | siebrand | dpkg -l now shows me "rc libapache2-mod-php4" and "ii libapache2-mod-php5" |
| 21:13.01 | dpkg | ii now shows me "rc libapache2-mod-php4" and "ii libapache2-mod-php5" 1.8-2.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 21:13.05 | streuner_ | Guerin: yeah, i have 512 MB too, and never (can't remember) use that too... |
| 21:13.07 | xingu | hopefully the swap reclaim patches will stabalise and get merged soon |
| 21:13.16 | streuner_ | s/use/used/ |
| 21:13.37 | siebrand | The app I need to install does not like any other plavour but PHP 5.0.4 |
| 21:13.47 | siebrand | flavour, I mean.. :) |
| 21:13.57 | streuner_ | but it doesn't *HURD* to use SWAP â„¢ |
| 21:14.00 | dendrite | siebrand: Looks like 5.2.0-8 is what's in testing... |
| 21:14.07 | bzed | Thms: well, that's your problem with swap? not really a problem to add some |
| 21:14.12 | peppe | swap is always useful, even if you don't have any memory-intensive process; the kernel can swap out data from sleeping processes and use memory for more useful things (disk cache, for example) |
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| 21:14.18 | parsonsd | streuner_ hurd? |
| 21:14.20 | siebrand | dendrite: I there a way to get the version I need installed? |
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| 21:14.28 | Supaplex | !hurd |
| 21:14.29 | dpkg | somebody said hurd was a POSIX compatible collection of servers that run on the GNU Mach microkernel, it is the core of the GNU system, see http://hurd.gnu.org, or a HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons. http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ for Debian GNU/Hurd or /join #hurd on irc.freenode.net |
| 21:14.44 | streuner_ | parsonsd: bad |
| 21:14.57 | Supaplex | still alpha quality |
| 21:15.02 | parsonsd | supaplex - i know about hurd, but not the context from struener_ |
| 21:15.03 | xingu | unfortunately, the current mm is quite dumb when it comes to the subject of inactive pages |
| 21:15.10 | dendrite | siebrand: If the package was ever in testing, you could try snapshots, but I'm not very fluent there. |
| 21:15.13 | xingu | so in context, swap can really kick your ass |
| 21:15.17 | xingu | no swap, no problem. |
| 21:15.17 | Supaplex | parsonsd: yea, very bad pun |
| 21:15.22 | dendrite | siebrand: 5.2 won't work? |
| 21:15.51 | parsonsd | streuner_ - still wanting ot try it, even if it is bad. might be fun on one of my useless laptop systemboards |
| 21:15.57 | siebrand | dendrite: ouch. THat sounds like a pain... Nope, I have tried before and some functions of the app just don't work. And using a more recent version of the app is not an option. |
| 21:16.02 | parsonsd | streuner_, not like i need sound. |
| 21:16.19 | dendrite | siebrand: Well, other option is to grab the source you need and build it. |
| 21:16.35 | streuner_ | !spell hurd |
| 21:16.37 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 21:16.37 | dendrite | siebrand: apt-get build-dep php5 |
| 21:16.43 | TravellingSalesM | does etch use kernel 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 21:16.43 | streuner_ | !spell hurt |
| 21:16.44 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 21:16.51 | dendrite | siebrand: Then grab the tarball source, and build it. |
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| 21:17.08 | parsonsd | ( I admit to not knowing what other character devices the flaw effects, or even how recent ANY of the notes on debian/hurd ) |
| 21:17.13 | siebrand | dendrite: libsnmp5-dev is not available |
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| 21:17.15 | parsonsd | streuner_ - heh. now i got it |
| 21:17.16 | bzed | siebrand: wtf is that app using that it can;t work with php5? |
| 21:17.28 | bzed | siebrand: usually you can resolve such problems by installing some pear packages |
| 21:17.42 | siebrand | bzed: I have no idea... It's a graphical workflow system for publishers |
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| 21:18.08 | tekemperor | is there a way to install debian from another linux distrobution without burning a CD? |
| 21:18.12 | siebrand | bzed: I used to installed it on IIS/PHP and Apache/PHP on Windows... |
| 21:18.36 | streuner_ | tekemperor: debootstrap |
| 21:18.40 | bzed | siebrand: what's the actual errer when you try to run it? |
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| 21:18.45 | tekemperor | streuner_ thank you |
| 21:18.51 | siebrand | bzed: Haven't debugged. Blank page. |
| 21:18.55 | xingu | !debootstrap |
| 21:18.56 | dpkg | i heard debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 21:18.57 | xingu | even. |
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| 21:19.08 | bzed | siebrand: blank page usually just means that your memory limit for php is too low |
| 21:19.17 | siebrand | bzed: 100M |
| 21:19.28 | siebrand | bzed: definately suffices... |
| 21:19.29 | bzed | siebrand: where did you set it? |
| 21:19.43 | streuner_ | tekemperor: check out ig (install-guide) i think it mention debootstrap there |
| 21:20.31 | siebrand | some php.ini. I know it's the correct one, as the apps's install check indicated all required settings were correct. IIRC somewhere within the php.ini of the webserver dir |
| 21:20.38 | bzed | tekemperor: after dooing a debrootstrap you need to install grub/lilo, add /etc/fstab and isntall a kernel... and add root to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow I think that was all to get it running.. |
| 21:20.45 | streuner_ | tekemperor: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apds03.html#id325082 |
| 21:21.27 | siebrand | bzed: but don't worry. That's not it. Same behaviour on Windows with PHP 5.2 and correct settings for php.ini.. |
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| 21:21.30 | bzed | siebrand: well, debug it then |
| 21:21.42 | bzed | siebrand: or just use something written in a serious language |
| 21:21.43 | siebrand | bzed: not an option... Side effects unknown. |
| 21:21.45 | tekemperor | thanks guys, I think I have a enough for a starting point now. |
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| 21:22.10 | dendrite | siebrand: Did you apt-get upgrade before you tried to build-dep? |
| 21:22.10 | siebrand | bzed: I didn't come here to argue on design descisions of a supplier :-) |
| 21:22.11 | bzed | siebrand: debugging is _always_ an option. you have the code, you can debug and fix it. |
| 21:22.15 | streuner_ | tekemperor: have fun |
| 21:22.21 | siebrand | dendrite: nope. Will do that. |
| 21:23.10 | bzed | siebrand: maintainnig your own php isntallation is no fun, though. I'd try to get it running without building php on my own |
| 21:23.21 | poi | hi all, i want to teach six kids a litte bit debian admisitration. I want that they connect via ssh to a debian server. At the debian system they should install apache, ftp server, ... We only have on spare pc to run debian at so I need a virtual server for each kid. I googled around and found a lot of stuff like openvz, linux-vserver, ... Which programm is good and not to difficult to manage? |
| 21:23.23 | siebrand | bzed: I fully agree |
| 21:23.30 | dendrite | bzed: Especially one that's two point releases old... |
| 21:23.46 | bzed | siebrand: you first need a serious error, a blank page usually is jsut a too low memory limit |
| 21:23.48 | dendrite | siebrand: Do you have vendor support? |
| 21:24.01 | dendrite | siebrand: Have you looked in the error logs? |
| 21:24.01 | Guerin | poi: you should probably look at xen |
| 21:24.05 | siebrand | dendrite: not on a Saturday evening |
| 21:24.08 | bzed | siebrand: try to turn off safe_mode, too, it's not safe at all anyway |
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| 21:24.30 | siebrand | bzed: safe mode is off. |
| 21:24.31 | mcbane_ | I have made a little mess here. I have installed a programm with apt-get and manually removed it. Now apt wont install it again. How can i fix this? |
| 21:24.51 | dendrite | mcbane_: apt-get install --reinstall <pkg> |
| 21:24.53 | poi | Guerin: do you have experience with it? |
| 21:25.00 | mcbane_ | dendrite: thanks |
| 21:25.06 | dendrite | !tell mcbane_ about confmiss |
| 21:25.30 | dendrite | mcbane_: In case it won't install conf files, I told dpkg to tell you about other possibly useful flags. |
| 21:25.31 | bzed | siebrand: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini is the file you need to edit, or just add something like php_flag memory_limit 150M into your virtual host config of apache |
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| 21:26.08 | mcbane_ | dendrite: ah, i see. Cool bot :) thank you |
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| 21:26.16 | labadaba | #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny |
| 21:26.17 | labadaba | #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny |
| 21:26.18 | siebrand | bzed: *nod* so far I still need to get Apache working. After uninstalling, apache is whining about "Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 21:26.19 | labadaba | #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny |
| 21:26.23 | labadaba | #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny #Funny |
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| 21:26.39 | dendrite | #stupid |
| 21:26.48 | parsonsd | well, that was hysterical. |
| 21:26.56 | bzed | siebrand: did you install apache2 again? |
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| 21:27.02 | dendrite | parsonsd: No, that was #funny! =) |
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| 21:27.23 | hyperactivecrond | has anybody gotten the crystal cs4237b sound card working in Debian? |
| 21:27.28 | parsonsd | dendrite : hehe |
| 21:27.43 | siebrand | bzed: about to do that... "apt-get --reinstall install pkg-name", right? |
| 21:28.03 | bzed | siebrand: yes. you don;t need --reinstall if you've removed it, though |
| 21:28.09 | streuner_ | hyperactivecrond: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 21:28.21 | siebrand | bzed: wasn't removed yet. Better to remove than to --reinstall? |
| 21:28.58 | bzed | siebrand: if you know your configurations you could purge it (dpkg -P packagename) and isntall ti again, then you'll have clean configs for sure |
| 21:29.20 | siebrand | bzed: all configs are default, not yet configured, so no harm done... |
| 21:29.40 | bzed | hyperactivecrond: who made this soundcard!? |
| 21:29.49 | hyperactivecrond | Bzed: Crystal |
| 21:30.07 | siebrand | bzed: dpkg -P whines about depends. Should I remove those first? |
| 21:30.18 | hyperactivecrond | it's older, yes it is. |
| 21:30.35 | hyperactivecrond | the whole computer is old. PMMX @ 233MHZ 128MB of ram |
| 21:30.47 | bzed | siebrand: I'd remove all of them and install all fo them again |
| 21:30.58 | siebrand | bzed: ok, will do. |
| 21:31.14 | hyperactivecrond | dell latitude cp for those of you who are keeping score |
| 21:31.48 | bzed | hyperactivecrond: they were made by cirrus logic btw |
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| 21:32.20 | bzed | hyperactivecrond: and snd-cs4236 is the right module for it. is it a pci card? |
| 21:32.25 | streuner_ | hyperactivecrond: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 21:33.11 | loiic | is there a way to set up a folder so that all the file created in it belongs to owner of that folder (in a way similar to setting GUID on a directory) |
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| 21:36.03 | bzed | loiic: as a normal user is not allowed to do a chown on a file to give it to a different user - I doubt that there's a way to archive that |
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| 21:37.17 | Assid | err.. if i have a process running on a particular user.. and the connection to the server gets cut. how long before the process dies out knowing that the user has got cut? |
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| 21:38.48 | Guerin | poi: only as a client. As a client it's completely transparent. I've never administered it, though. |
| 21:39.36 | bzed | Assid: which protocol does it use? |
| 21:39.39 | bzed | Assid: tcp? |
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| 21:40.35 | Assid | err.. udp |
| 21:41.04 | valdyn | Assid: what's using udp? |
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| 21:41.16 | Assid | bzed: i am running openvpn with that user.. and my routing messed things up.. so i am hoping it dies out.. |
| 21:41.24 | no-remorse | anone here know anything about MTAs ? |
| 21:41.34 | bzed | !tell no-remorse about ask |
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| 21:42.08 | no-remorse | how do i set up an MTA ? |
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| 21:42.47 | valdyn | no-remorse: you don't, if you have to ask like that |
| 21:42.48 | bzed | no-remorse: your default debian isntall brings exim as mta |
| 21:42.49 | valdyn | no-remorse: get an admin to do it |
| 21:42.54 | no-remorse | i am the admin valdyn |
| 21:42.55 | bzed | no-remorse: and as valdyn said - get an admin |
| 21:43.00 | no-remorse | these are my machines |
| 21:43.09 | bzed | setting up a serious mail server is nothing you learn within one evening |
| 21:43.28 | bzed | Assid: hmm... where are the routes messed up?> on your client? |
| 21:43.40 | valdyn | no-remorse: you don't really get around setting up an mta when installing debian, what is it you really want to do though? |
| 21:44.15 | siebrand | bzed: I removed and reinstalled libapache2-mod-php5, apache2.2-common. Starting apache fails with "libphp5.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO?" |
| 21:44.21 | slept | on i945 chipset i get libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b, after googleing for a while i found in a fedora forum that using mesa > 6.5.2 will fix this, I had a look at the changelog but it cant find anything about that ... so I am not sure if i should install packages from experimental it would be nice if someone could confirm that this fixes the problem and/or that it is not totally unstable |
| 21:44.44 | Assid | bzed: nah.. server side.. so the server is now unreachable.. which makes things really bad for me |
| 21:44.46 | valdyn | slept: is there any other issue beside that warning? |
| 21:45.14 | slept | well 3d seems to be slow |
| 21:45.20 | bzed | Assid: well, a reconnect should solve this problem. but I assume that your openvpn client has changed the routes on your client, so you can't connect to the server because of that |
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| 21:45.58 | criminy | Anyone have any luck using sshfs in debian testing? |
| 21:46.01 | valdyn | slept: glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 21:46.07 | Assid | bzed: i cant reach the server even from another machine on the same network as the server |
| 21:46.07 | bzed | siebrand: do you ahve any other sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list except the normal debian mirrors? |
| 21:46.12 | slept | valdyn, it is on says yes |
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| 21:47.53 | bzed | Assid: then I doubt waiting for a timeout will fix that |
| 21:47.54 | valdyn | slept: ok, this is probably not an issue then, till you confirm that 3d is really slower than it should be i wouldn't do anything about it |
| 21:47.54 | Assid | yeah.. asked someone to come in tomorrow to reboot it for me |
| 21:47.54 | siebrand | bzed: there's a company local server in there first. |
| 21:47.55 | Assid | im gonna try on another box meanwhile |
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| 21:47.55 | Assid | which has remote console |
| 21:47.55 | valdyn | slept: intel chipset's aren't supposed to be fast with 3D no matter what |
| 21:47.56 | bzed | siebrand: did it probably get php from there? |
| 21:47.56 | siebrand | bzed: possibly |
| 21:47.56 | valdyn | slept: i only know a similar issue from radeon, and in my case it changes absolutely nothing |
| 21:47.56 | siebrand | bzed: but I have not reinstalled php, only mod_php5 and apache2.2 |
| 21:48.07 | valdyn | slept: using beryl or compiz at the same time? |
| 21:48.15 | slept | valdyn, it is slower than on windows ... i am not talking about a bit slow - it really sucks, i cant tell how many FPS since glxgears only puts out the error from above |
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| 21:48.29 | bzed | siebrand: apt-get --reinstall install php5-common << look where apt does it get from |
| 21:48.40 | slept | valdyn, compiz worked but right now i am not using it |
| 21:48.54 | criminy | I |
| 21:49.15 | criminy | I'm not able to read from any directory I mount using sshfs..even if I mount it as a non-root user |
| 21:49.15 | siebrand | bzed: Get:1 http://packages.dotdeb.org stable/all php5-common 5.2.1-0.dotdeb.1 [189kB] |
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| 21:49.43 | valdyn | slept: guess it's an entirely different issue then, cant help you then |
| 21:50.01 | slept | valdyn, thanks anyways |
| 21:50.16 | siimo | anyone running azureus from sid/etch ? |
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| 21:50.20 | bzed | siebrand: doesn't sound liek the normal debian package |
| 21:50.30 | bzed | siimo: usually from experimental |
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| 21:50.45 | siebrand | bzed: you could fool me... I have no clue on naming conventions, etc, within Debian |
| 21:50.46 | criminy | weird, it works if I mount / instead of /home/$user/ |
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| 21:51.05 | pstickne | mount /? |
| 21:51.32 | criminy | if I mount / in sshfs |
| 21:51.44 | bzed | siebrand: is packages.dotdeb.org your company's repository? |
| 21:51.50 | valdyn | criminy: geez, dont |
| 21:51.51 | siimo | bzed: oh ok that explains it cause i cant get it to run from unstable |
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| 21:51.59 | criminy | when I try to mount a home directory over ssh using sshfs it's unreadable by all but root. I know, it sounds bad. |
| 21:52.08 | bzed | siimo: hmm, what's the error? |
| 21:52.10 | siebrand | bzed: I do not know. |
| 21:52.23 | bzed | siebrand: who did setup the server? |
| 21:52.24 | valdyn | criminy: read the manpage? sshfs cant support unix permissions |
| 21:52.32 | siebrand | bzed: some guy at the company. |
| 21:52.47 | siimo | bzed: it cant install it cause apt fails to configure gij-4.1 |
| 21:52.48 | slept | criminy, you have to mount it with the user wich you want to have it available to or add -o allow_others |
| 21:52.51 | criminy | valdyn: the man page doesn't mention it |
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| 21:53.09 | bzed | siimo: you don;t want to run it with gij.. install sun java instead |
| 21:53.13 | pinx | ps |
| 21:53.25 | siimo | bzed: oh ok is there a reason |
| 21:53.29 | criminy | the man page even says there is a umask= option to set octal permissions |
| 21:53.34 | no-remorse | valdyn : what i am working on is setting up a cluster. it's not a big one jsut 3 machines right now |
| 21:53.34 | bzed | siimo: sun-java6-jre for example |
| 21:53.44 | criminy | slept: I did, but that still doesn't work |
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| 21:53.49 | bzed | siebrand: well, ask them :) |
| 21:54.01 | no-remorse | just trying to get all my little penguins in a row |
| 21:54.06 | valdyn | no-remorse: that's not really useful information concerning your MTA |
| 21:54.22 | slept | criminy, member of fuse ? |
| 21:54.25 | siebrand | bzed: oke. Well... I'll try and do some more stuff.. Anyway... thanks for the help. |
| 21:54.26 | criminy | yup |
| 21:54.31 | bzed | no-remorse: what do you want to do with the cluster? |
| 21:54.35 | valdyn | no-remorse: im sure you want that mta to do something. Each box should have its own mta anyway |
| 21:54.57 | bzed | siebrand: np. probably just remove all the php and apache stuff, add some official debian mirror to /etc/apt/sources.list instead and isntall it again |
| 21:55.17 | no-remorse | the cluseter here will eventually be linked to another one at my schoo;l |
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| 21:55.21 | siebrand | bzed: aside from changing the mirror, I am indeed about to do all that |
| 21:55.33 | criminy | working now, didn't change anything. Again, it was mounting just fine as normal user but only readable by root |
| 21:55.37 | pinx | I've got a thing called artsd showing in top - anyone know what it is? I can't kill it :( |
| 21:55.39 | no-remorse | butfor the time being i am going to rent it out to the seti project |
| 21:56.02 | no-remorse | rent is exactly the right word... |
| 21:56.11 | impulse6 | does anyone know what an exclusive or sum is? |
| 21:56.12 | criminy | thanks for the help |
| 21:56.12 | valdyn | pinx: its the component of kde that is responsible for sound |
| 21:56.15 | no-remorse | just going to let them use it |
| 21:56.24 | slept | criminy, do you have read permission for the mountpoint |
| 21:56.27 | pinx | valdyn: thanks |
| 21:56.31 | impulse6 | XOR sum |
| 21:56.35 | criminy | slept: yes |
| 21:56.37 | bzed | siebrand: well... the php packages comes from that mirror, which is using a 'stable/all' version of debian, which sounds liek something home-grown. also I doubt that a such recent version of php is in stable... so I guess the source of the problem is that howngrown repository |
| 21:56.47 | valdyn | pinx: randomly killing processes is seriously asking for trouble.. |
| 21:57.06 | pinx | now I want to umount a cardreader, but it persistently "busy" and I can't find a process using it. Any ideas? |
| 21:57.18 | maddash | impulse6: you can define a field with XOR being your addition, i think |
| 21:57.20 | valdyn | pinx: fuser /dev/whatever |
| 21:57.22 | pinx | s/it's/it |
| 21:57.49 | pinx | valdyn: thanks - I am being careful with kill -- asking here first ;-) |
| 21:57.56 | siebrand | bzed: *nod* possibly. By removing and reinstalling I'll at least be able to prove that and do some slapping after... |
| 21:58.18 | madd_matt | pinx, If you don't want artsd running, disable it in the kde control center. There's a checkbox to disable "Sound System". With alsa it isn't needed anyways. |
| 21:59.01 | bzed | impulse6: I think that's the function you use to calculate the parity of data http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_bit |
| 21:59.01 | impulse6 | i'm trying check a string checksum that uses a "XOR sum" |
| 21:59.21 | pinx | madd_matt: thanks - it seems to be needed for noatun |
| 21:59.35 | madd_matt | pinx, if you disable it in the control center, it won't be needed anymore. |
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| 22:00.02 | pinx | valdyn: fuser those /dev/'s gives no user |
| 22:00.08 | hyperactivecrond | <dumbquestion /> is the pseudo image kit gone? |
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| 22:00.28 | bzed | impulse6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR |
| 22:00.39 | valdyn | pinx: fuser /path/to/mountpoint |
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| 22:01.29 | impulse6 | i'm familar with what an XOR is |
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| 22:01.53 | maddash | impulse6: try #math... |
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| 22:03.17 | valdyn | pinx: fuser doesn't give users btw, but PIDs |
| 22:03.54 | creature | For those of you who have laptops: How hot do they run? |
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| 22:04.11 | peppe | pinx: valdyn: lsof gives both user and pid |
| 22:04.13 | valdyn | creature: that's not a debian question, polls are also off topic |
| 22:04.16 | bzed | creature: by batterie. or not. |
| 22:04.22 | Malf | What's a decent package or tool to monitor my system temp? |
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| 22:04.39 | bzed | Malf: look for the sensors stuff |
| 22:04.44 | Malf | bzed: thanks |
| 22:04.49 | creature | For those of you who have laptops running Debian: How hot do they run, processor-wise? |
| 22:04.50 | echnaton | Hi, is it possible to create a debian live cd from your debian system, so that you get a full copy of it? |
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| 22:04.52 | creature | valdyn: :) |
| 22:04.57 | bzed | Malf: with kseonsors as graphical frontend for example |
| 22:05.16 | valdyn | creature: now you just got to remove the poll part |
| 22:05.33 | creature | Malf: I use a gkrellm thing to monitor my temperature. It may even be a builtin. |
| 22:05.41 | creature | Yeah, it is. |
| 22:06.08 | bzed | creature: _your_ temperature? :P |
| 22:06.44 | pinx | valdyn: heh - now I know what happens if I mount something into a non-empty dir ;-) |
| 22:06.45 | creature | bzed: Well, the laptop is on my lap. Is it warming me or am I warming it? |
| 22:06.54 | pinx | valdyn: thanks m8 |
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| 22:07.24 | maddash | creature: thinkpad t43 here. debian alone (no wm) runs fine @800Mhz/~39C |
| 22:07.53 | creature | maddash: Any idea how it performs when you've got a wm up and are using it? |
| 22:07.58 | valdyn | Malf: install the lm-sensors package, run the 'sensors' tool from that package ( as root ), follow what it sais. Use your favourite desktop environment's temperature sensors applet or something like gkrellm to monitor |
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| 22:08.19 | Malf | valdyn: thanks, just installed lm-sensors and was about to see what the command was |
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| 22:08.25 | creature | My laptop runs around 65C, which is within the chip specs but seems uncomfortably hot. |
| 22:08.39 | creature | I'd be much more comfortable if it used its fan more and kept the CPU around 50C. |
| 22:08.48 | maddash | creature: depends on what wm you're using |
| 22:08.56 | creature | maddash: Fluxbox. |
| 22:09.04 | peppe | creature: are you using cpu frequency scaling? |
| 22:09.16 | maddash | creature: `cpufreq-info` |
| 22:09.21 | valdyn | creature: you want to use cpu scaling. apt-get install cpufreq-utils, read its docs. the ondemand governor is probably fine for you |
| 22:09.23 | creature | peppe: I have the relevant options in my kernel, but I don't think I've got the user-space tools set up to trigger it. |
| 22:09.36 | creature | maddash: Command not found. |
| 22:09.38 | bosko | Hi, has anyone had issues with the fan running wildly (constantly) on their ATI card while under Debian? I seem to have this problem that even if my CPU Usage is low (3%), and I'm not really doing much my fan on my video card just runs violently. This ONLY happens under Debian, so I'm thining I need to modify some settings, if possible .. any ideas? |
| 22:09.55 | maddash | creature: `sudo aptitude install cpufreq-utils` |
| 22:10.01 | peppe | creature: with a modern kernel, install cpufrequtils package |
| 22:10.06 | valdyn | bosko: you might need to use fglrx to have proper fan control |
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| 22:10.30 | Malf | sweet |
| 22:10.33 | bosko | The drivers I am using are actually fglrx |
| 22:10.42 | maddash | bosko: what machine is this on? |
| 22:10.42 | Malf | I didn't really care to monitor it through my desktop anyway |
| 22:10.46 | Malf | just occasionally check it on the command-line |
| 22:10.50 | Malf | so sensors works just great |
| 22:10.59 | creature | peppe - apt-getting now. |
| 22:11.00 | bosko | maddash - A desktop? What exactly do you need to know |
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| 22:12.27 | valdyn | Malf: uh, sensors-detect is what i meant above in fact. but sensors is ok to control sensors, sure |
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| 22:12.28 | maddash | bosko: a) are you using cpu frequency scaling? b) install fglrx to scale down your gpu. |
| 22:12.29 | Malf | yeah |
| 22:12.29 | Malf | did the detect |
| 22:12.29 | Malf | added the modules |
| 22:12.29 | Malf | running sensors |
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| 22:12.30 | Malf | told me to run the detect |
| 22:12.31 | peppe | creature: then set some option in its configuration file /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
| 22:12.31 | Malf | so it worked out |
| 22:12.32 | bosko | I have instaled fglrx but have no clue about the CPU Freq scaling .. I guess I'll look it up, thanks |
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| 22:12.33 | valdyn | Malf: ok, nice. Mind the voltage values , they can be totally wrong on some hardware |
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| 22:12.34 | Malf | valdyn: thanks for the heads up |
| 22:12.34 | geo-rge | like mine |
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| 22:12.51 | maddash | bosko: `aticonfig --list-powerstates` |
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| 22:13.02 | bkervaski | Hi all. I'm using ipsec-tools and racoon (in direct mode) to build a ipsec tunnel. I keep getting racoon: ERROR: no suitable proposal found, any suggestions? |
| 22:13.02 | valdyn | Malf: or case intrusion detection, that's reversed on my hardware |
| 22:13.06 | Malf | valdyn: mainly I just switched power supplies and wanted to make sure temps were staying normal, fans still running and all |
| 22:13.10 | creature | peppe: presumably I have to load a kernel module, right? |
| 22:13.24 | maddash | creature: yes. depending on your cpu. |
| 22:13.27 | peppe | creature: yes, it depends on you cpu |
| 22:13.38 | peppe | don't know if udev does that automagically |
| 22:13.42 | pinx | is cpufreq-utils only available in etch? - I'm not finding it in sarge |
| 22:13.55 | maddash | creature: most likely you have a p/m, so `sudo modprobe speedstep_centrino` |
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| 22:14.11 | valdyn | pinx: cpufrequtils, no dash |
| 22:14.14 | creature | pinx: No hyphen. cpufrequtils. |
| 22:14.17 | bzed | Malf: on my board there's also some overflow in the values, sometimes it jsut jups to 2**16 deg C |
| 22:14.22 | pinx | ta |
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| 22:14.32 | Malf | bzed: that's pretty sweet |
| 22:14.51 | Malf | any idea offhand what Temp3 is? |
| 22:14.57 | Malf | since it's not m/b and it's not cpu |
| 22:15.01 | creature | Depends on your machine, Malf. |
| 22:15.04 | Malf | yeah |
| 22:15.04 | peppe | Malf: system? |
| 22:15.05 | bzed | Malf: gpu probably/ |
| 22:15.05 | Malf | I figured |
| 22:15.07 | Malf | ahh |
| 22:15.09 | Malf | true |
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| 22:15.46 | bzed | Malf: or ram temp |
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| 22:15.57 | archville | Hi. |
| 22:15.58 | impulse6 | exit |
| 22:16.23 | Malf | another possibility |
| 22:16.29 | Malf | just wondered as it was notably higher than the others |
| 22:16.40 | Malf | i'll have to look into it further |
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| 22:16.49 | valdyn | Malf: ram would hardly be higher, the gfx chip easily |
| 22:16.50 | creature | peppe: What options should I change? Just set 'ENABLE="true"'? |
| 22:16.54 | Malf | yeah |
| 22:16.56 | Malf | i figured gfx |
| 22:17.04 | Malf | soon as bzed mentioned it |
| 22:17.06 | BrownFrog | Is there any way to pipe, as opposed to redirect to a file, stderr? (in bash) |
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| 22:17.10 | peppe | Malf: but it depends on your specific mainboard and sensor chipset ... so don't trust them until you are sure that your calibrations are good. try googling and look for some calibrations for your mobo |
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| 22:17.19 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
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| 22:17.24 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.25 | valdyn | BrownFrog: duh, why? |
| 22:17.26 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.27 | bzed | Malf: there's also the chance that sensors knows nada abotu that sensor and the value is jsut _something_ |
| 22:17.27 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
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| 22:17.28 | Brian_Geoff | y hi thar |
| 22:17.29 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.31 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.33 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.34 | maddash | !ops |
| 22:17.35 | Malf | could be |
| 22:17.35 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 22:17.35 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.37 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.38 | Nik0 | HAI 2 U! |
| 22:17.39 | Nayr | Y HALLO THAR! |
| 22:17.39 | maddash | !ops spammer |
| 22:17.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: maddash complains about: spammer |
| 22:17.40 | Nik0 | HAI 2 U! |
| 22:17.42 | Nik0 | OH SHIT OPZ |
| 22:17.57 | Malf | likely in fact if it's the gfx |
| 22:17.57 | Malf | since it's not really that warm at the moment at all |
| 22:17.57 | Malf | but |
| 22:17.57 | raf256 | !bitchslap Nik0 |
| 22:17.58 | Malf | regardless |
| 22:18.01 | Malf | i've got me some research to do now |
| 22:18.04 | pinx | I got "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" :( |
| 22:18.09 | BrownFrog | valdyn: So I can leisurely browse debugging messages in a program, rather than see them whoosh past me ;) |
| 22:18.15 | Malf | thanks for all the help everybody |
| 22:18.18 | maddash | pinx: what cpu? |
| 22:18.19 | peppe | creature: that option makes cpufrequtils starting at boot, set it to true, also set your governor to "ondemand" |
| 22:18.31 | BrownFrog | valdyn: (I want to pipe to less, specifically) |
| 22:18.35 | pinx | maddash: 500Mhz toshiba laptop |
| 22:18.43 | maddash | creature: erm, no, set it to 'userspace' if you plan on setting the freq manually |
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| 22:19.01 | valdyn | BrownFrog: you want to pipe stderr through less? |
| 22:19.03 | maddash | pinx: **cpu** |
| 22:19.13 | BrownFrog | valdyn: yup |
| 22:19.15 | raf256 | what should be the GID of group wheel |
| 22:19.15 | valdyn | BrownFrog: command 2>&1 | less |
| 22:19.15 | geo-rge | c3p0? |
| 22:19.20 | creature | maddash: I'm happy to let the machine decide what it is. |
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| 22:19.34 | bzed | pinx: paste the output of /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:19.40 | BrownFrog | valdyn: Thanks :) |
| 22:19.42 | maddash | pinx: don't assume. `cat /proc/cpuinfo` |
| 22:19.42 | raf256 | !bitchslap his mom |
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| 22:19.48 | creature | peppe: It's a Mobile Pentium III. Is that part of the centrino speedstep module? |
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| 22:19.50 | peppe | creature: you can also specify max and max frequencies |
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| 22:20.01 | Ruthless | WHERE IS RAID? |
| 22:20.13 | Boris22 | HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH |
| 22:20.14 | bzed | Ruthless: NOT HERE. DIES YESTERDAY |
| 22:20.14 | geo-rge | !ops ruthless spam |
| 22:20.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: geo-rge complains about: ruthless spam |
| 22:20.15 | Boris22 | HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH |
| 22:20.16 | maddash | in the kitchen cabinet |
| 22:20.18 | Brian_Geoff | IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH IT WAS A GRAVEYARD SMASH |
| 22:20.20 | maddash | !ops spammer |
| 22:20.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: maddash complains about: spammer |
| 22:20.25 | Boris22 | HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH HE DID THE MONSTER MASH |
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| 22:20.30 | maddash | [sigh] |
| 22:20.40 | maddash | silly ctrl+v folks |
| 22:20.58 | peppe | creature: I think that speedstep-centrino is for centrino (pentium-M) only |
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| 22:21.10 | creature | peppe: Ok, I'll read the docs and find out. |
| 22:21.18 | bzed | creature: which cpu do you ahve? |
| 22:21.21 | pinx | maddash: Pentium III (Coppermine) cpu MHz : 498.259 cache size : 256 KB |
| 22:21.23 | geo-rge | !ops Nik0 |
| 22:21.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: geo-rge complains about: Nik0 |
| 22:21.35 | peppe | try to modprobe that, or take a look into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/ |
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| 22:22.14 | maddash | geo-rge: innocent until proven guilty |
| 22:22.25 | geo-rge | maddash: scroll back |
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| 22:22.28 | creature | bzed - I have a Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - M 1200MHz. |
| 22:22.29 | peppe | creature: I honestly don't know if a pentium 3 mobile can scale :( |
| 22:22.46 | maddash | geo-rge: yeah, but he'd been booted for that already |
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| 22:23.01 | creature | peppe: It's got 4 stepping levels, and the cpufreq docs in the kernel say it can. |
| 22:23.15 | bkervaski | How do I enable IP forwarding (routing) in Ubuntu dapper? |
| 22:23.25 | geo-rge | bkervaski: we don't know |
| 22:23.31 | tralala | bkervaski, by asking #ubunty |
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| 22:23.50 | tralala | I can't even type it correctly |
| 22:24.02 | n3kl | I have looked into setting up a software raid with dmraid, but I can't seem to find enough information about it to get me started. Does anyone have any sugestions or links perhaps? |
| 22:24.16 | Wolfcastle | bkervaski: in debian you have type "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" |
| 22:24.18 | simonrvn | #ubuntu, heh |
| 22:24.30 | pinx | bzed: maddash: I have an Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) cpu MHz : 498.259 cache size : 256 KB |
| 22:24.30 | Wolfcastle | bkervaski: but if you want to be sure try #ubuntu |
| 22:24.43 | Md | Wolfcastle: echo net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 >> /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 22:24.45 | geo-rge | Wolfcastle: actually that's the dist-indep way |
| 22:25.07 | bzed | pinx: nor sure if that one can do frequency scaling at all. |
| 22:25.11 | tralala | !Md++ |
| 22:25.13 | Wolfcastle | well there you go, that's it then bkervaski |
| 22:25.18 | maddash | pinx: ok. i'm not sure what kernel module to load there, so google around a bit - "pentium 3 frequency scaling" |
| 22:25.50 | pinx | maddash: cool -- thanks |
| 22:25.55 | bzed | creature: that could be supported by one fo the intel speedstep drivers, forgot the name as it is merged into the acpi speedstepping driver in the latest kernel as it seems |
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| 22:26.09 | creature | OK, so I want the acpi-speedstep module? |
| 22:26.10 | pinx | bzed: ok -- I'll do some meore research |
| 22:26.25 | bzed | creature: I think. not sure, though. read the docu :) |
| 22:26.37 | raf256 | is it trollfest? |
| 22:26.50 | bzed | yes :D |
| 22:27.07 | creature | bzed: I think so. |
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| 22:27.19 | creature | I've just modprobed that module, and I get this: |
| 22:27.38 | creature | http://pastie.caboo.se/42735 |
| 22:27.51 | Gryfelhase | Is there a filelimit on avidemux ? |
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| 22:28.37 | maddash | pinx: 'sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq` |
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| 22:29.00 | creature | peppe: Are the available governors kernel modules? |
| 22:29.00 | peppe | creature: that's good, but now run `modprobe cpufreq-ondemand` |
| 22:29.06 | peppe | creature: yes |
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| 22:29.25 | pinx | maddash: "FATAL: Module acpi_cpufreq not found." |
| 22:29.32 | creature | peppe: Ok, done. |
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| 22:29.54 | peppe | creature: ok, /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils restart |
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| 22:30.08 | Ruthless | WE ARE ATTACKING MEW MEW POWER |
| 22:30.30 | astinus | Ruthless: hahah |
| 22:30.32 | raf256 | Ruthless: kthx, bye |
| 22:30.37 | creature | peppe: It's stepped itself down now. :) |
| 22:30.50 | streuner_ | Don't feed |
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| 22:31.00 | maddash | pinx: try speedstep-smi |
| 22:31.02 | creature | peppe: Will it load that automatically on boot or should I add it to /etc/modules? |
| 22:31.13 | samu1 | how should i set up a graphical bootsplash? is usplash the way to go? |
| 22:31.16 | raf256 | what shold be the fucking GID of wheel group? |
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| 22:31.30 | raf256 | samu1: its for retards, go do it by hand |
| 22:31.36 | creature | samu1: usplash is a bunch of arse. Go with bootsplash. You'll have to recompile your kernel but it's worth it. |
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| 22:31.40 | astinus | raf256: Whatever you want. |
| 22:31.45 | fas3r | hello everybosy |
| 22:31.50 | fas3r | body* |
| 22:31.55 | creature | samu1: I did it myself the other day, and tried both out. |
| 22:31.55 | pinx | maddash: speedstep-smi "command not found" and no man entry |
| 22:31.57 | peppe | creature: I don't know if udev loads it, but I think it doesn't. so add it to /etc/modules and it will always work :) |
| 22:32.09 | maddash | pinx: no, `sudo modprobe speedstep-smi` |
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| 22:32.47 | pinx | maddash: FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_smi (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-smi.ko): No such device |
| 22:32.59 | fas3r | i have an intel centrino duo .. i need to compil my kernel .. but i need to active smp support or not for centrino duo .. ? |
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| 22:33.13 | valdyn | fas3r: yes |
| 22:33.25 | fas3r | ok thank a lot |
| 22:33.31 | raf256 | what shold be the fucking GID of wheel group? |
| 22:33.44 | valdyn | !wheel |
| 22:33.45 | dpkg | well, wheel is n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. A person who has an active wheel bit (A privilege bit that allows the possessor to perform some restricted operation on a timesharing system like TENEX/TOPS-20/XEROX-IFS...). Irrelevant in debian default configs; don't use it unless you have a specific reason to do so. |
| 22:33.55 | creature | If I wanted to pass options to a module, can I just add those options on the line after it in /etc/module? |
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| 22:34.09 | maddash | pinx: ouch. that would imply that your kernel wasn't compiled with P-3 acpi support. |
| 22:34.24 | pinx | maddash: :( |
| 22:34.29 | maddash | pinx: can you pastebin your /boot/config-`uname -r` ? |
| 22:34.46 | bzed | maddash: chances that you want apm isntead of acpi on such an old notebook are good |
| 22:34.49 | pinx | maddash: moment....... |
| 22:35.26 | bzed | maddash: chances that the DSDT table is _fucked_ up is even higher |
| 22:35.34 | maddash | bzed: indeed. |
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| 22:36.39 | archville | If i blacklist a module in /etc/modules/blacklist it shouldn't be in 'lsmod' after reboot, should it ? |
| 22:36.51 | peppe | creature: I'd answer yes after looking into /etc/init.d/module-init-tools and /etc/init.d/modutils |
| 22:37.05 | streuner_ | archville: read /msg dpkg blacklist carefully |
| 22:37.18 | pinx | maddash: is that /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686 ? |
| 22:37.39 | maddash | pinx: yes. no guarantees, btw. cf. bzed's comment. |
| 22:37.54 | pinx | maddash: yea -- saw that -- googling now |
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| 22:38.52 | archville | streuner_, i did it that way |
| 22:39.02 | archville | modprobe.d/blacklist, on Etch |
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| 22:39.15 | archville | however it still loads nvidiafb or at least lsmod shows it |
| 22:39.26 | bzed | pinx: chances that the acpi implementation of a recent kernel (as in 2.6.20 or so) will work (better) on your notebook are high, though. the acpi implementation in 2.6.8 was not the very best yet. manybe you'd need to fix your dsdt table to get acpi working, which is not neccessarily a fun work |
| 22:39.53 | maddash | pinx: btw. what does `modinfo speedstep<tab key>` have to say? |
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| 22:40.48 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5488 |
| 22:40.57 | streuner_ | archville: How did you manage that? :-) |
| 22:41.13 | streuner_ | archville: Are you using 'nv'? |
| 22:41.22 | archville | streuner_, no, i'm using nvidia |
| 22:41.32 | GhostlyDeath | Can debian connect to WEP2 Enterprise? |
| 22:41.38 | archville | and want to disable nvidiafb to use vesafb instead |
| 22:42.02 | streuner_ | archville: why |
| 22:42.05 | GhostlyDeath | WPA2* |
| 22:42.15 | pinx | maddash: modinfo: could not find module speedstep |
| 22:42.23 | maddash | pinx: what are the contents of /lib/modules ? |
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| 22:42.38 | amphi | pinx: what cpu? |
| 22:42.47 | peppe | GhostlyDeath: wpasupplicant can, so all distributions that ship wpasupplicant can |
| 22:42.52 | pinx | maddash: 2.4.27-speakup 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 22:42.53 | raxip | hello |
| 22:42.53 | archville | streuner_, because i get errors and "inconsistency in ld.so" problems when running both nvidiafb and nvidia modules at the same time. |
| 22:43.11 | pinx | amphi intel III 500 Mhz |
| 22:43.28 | streuner_ | archville: are you using nvidia-glx or the binaries of nvidia website? |
| 22:43.39 | pinx | maddash: it is booted into 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 22:43.40 | bzed | streuner_: the nvidia module does not work if nvidiafb is enabled in the kernel. |
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| 22:44.07 | maddash | amphi: have you seen his /boot/config? http://channels.debian.net/paste/5488 |
| 22:44.11 | Malf | yeah that was one of my favorite moments |
| 22:44.14 | archville | streuner_, the latest nvidiathing.run from the website. |
| 22:44.27 | streuner_ | bzed: why aren't you tell that archville? :-) |
| 22:44.35 | raxip | out of interest |
| 22:44.49 | bzed | streuner_: because you've asked why they want to disable it :P |
| 22:44.54 | creature | peppe: My temperature's steadily dropping now, thanks. |
| 22:45.08 | bzed | archville: ouch. by running that you're putting crap into your debian |
| 22:45.10 | peppe | creature: you're welcome |
| 22:45.13 | streuner_ | ok |
| 22:45.26 | streuner_ | archville: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 22:45.32 | creature | Currently at 53C and falling. |
| 22:45.36 | bzed | archville: it'll overwrite files which will be replaced by the next debian update |
| 22:45.53 | maddash | pinx: `cd / ; locate -i speedstep` |
| 22:45.58 | bzed | !tell archville about nvidia oneline |
| 22:46.00 | bzed | !tell archville about nvidia oneliner |
| 22:46.02 | Malf | archville: last time I used the .run I had all kinds of awesome problems after the next debian update as well |
| 22:46.15 | Malf | that dpkg message is the way to go |
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| 22:46.25 | archville | Well, for me the nvidia .run works perfectly |
| 22:46.30 | archville | it is the nvidiafb what fails. |
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| 22:46.58 | streuner_ | archiville: well, why aren't you tell us what we asking you? |
| 22:47.00 | enouf | bzed: it's one-liner if that last one didn;t work |
| 22:47.01 | bzed | archville: they're not compatible. neither the nvidia X module to nvidiafb nor the nvidia.run thing to debian |
| 22:47.16 | bzed | enouf: oneliner worked well |
| 22:47.21 | enouf | ok .. |
| 22:47.23 | archville | That's why i want to disable nvidiafb, but blacklisting it in modprobe.b/blacklist does not help |
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| 22:47.33 | bkervaski | Anyone here use racoon? Trying to establish a tunnel and I keep geting "no suitable proposal found" |
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| 22:47.46 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5489 |
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| 22:47.57 | Malf | archville: last I checked blacklist wasn't working properly anyway for some people (myself included) though that was a few weeks ago |
| 22:48.03 | enouf | bzed: when you said " the nvidia module does not work if nvidiafb is enabled in the kernel." .. do you mean the nv Xorg module? |
| 22:48.06 | maddash | pinx: ok, this is good. |
| 22:48.15 | bzed | enouf: yes |
| 22:48.18 | pinx | maddash: :) |
| 22:48.19 | archville | Malf, :\ |
| 22:48.24 | enouf | bzed: ouch |
| 22:48.29 | bzed | enouf: you can;t even build it if nvidiafb is compiled into the kernel |
| 22:48.32 | Malf | yeah I wrote an init script to unload pcspkr... |
| 22:48.36 | streuner_ | archville: CAN you answer our questions? |
| 22:48.39 | Malf | because well.. I hate pcspkr |
| 22:48.39 | bzed | enouf: err no, |
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| 22:48.47 | bzed | enouf: damn, I misread what you wrote |
| 22:48.48 | enouf | bzed: so If i want to use Frmaebuffe for console, I'm syuck with VESA? |
| 22:48.53 | enouf | stuck* |
| 22:48.57 | archville | streuner_, i didn't notice, what's the question ? |
| 22:49.01 | Malf | and lord knows I couldn't wait for the fix, and i've been too lazy to check on it since |
| 22:49.02 | streuner_ | archville: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 22:49.04 | enouf | bzed: oh .. ok .. ;-) |
| 22:49.04 | bzed | enouf: the nvidia kernel module does not build and work with nvidiafb |
| 22:49.12 | archville | Linux version 2.6.18-3-686 (Debian 2.6.18-7) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-20)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 |
| 22:49.21 | enouf | bzed: gotcha .. thanks |
| 22:49.23 | bzed | enouf: and if it does not work, the nvidia X module is... sensless ;) |
| 22:49.32 | nyty | i test vista now |
| 22:49.36 | bzed | enouf: vesafb is supposed to work though |
| 22:49.36 | nyty | beryl is better than aero |
| 22:49.39 | nyty | very much |
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| 22:49.48 | nyty | the side chooser of windows is for shit |
| 22:49.56 | nyty | active windows separator in beryl is much better |
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| 22:50.02 | r00t__ | hello |
| 22:50.12 | enouf | !typosmite me |
| 22:50.14 | xand | HERRO |
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| 22:50.26 | xand | !root |
| 22:50.26 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 22:50.39 | r00t__ | debian stable's PHP4 has the fsocket bug, can it's PHP4 please be upgraded, fsocket() does not work on it (this is a known bug) |
| 22:50.48 | xand | r00t__: no it can't be |
| 22:50.49 | enouf | LOLNADA: ^^^ |
| 22:50.52 | maddash | pinx: in no particular order: `modinfo [...]` where [...]= {speedstep-centrino,speedstep-ich,speedstep-smi,speedstep-lib} |
| 22:50.54 | r00t__ | xand: why not? |
| 22:51.02 | xand | because only security holes are fixed in stable |
| 22:51.12 | r00t__ | this is a bug |
| 22:51.17 | xand | is it a security hole? |
| 22:51.19 | r00t__ | it makes php4 not work |
| 22:51.20 | r00t__ | yes |
| 22:51.23 | xand | how? |
| 22:51.30 | xand | it doesn't make php4 not work |
| 22:51.34 | r00t__ | yes it does |
| 22:51.41 | xand | works fine for me. |
| 22:51.43 | r00t__ | you cannot use many php4 script |
| 22:51.47 | xand | explain how it's a security hole |
| 22:51.52 | r00t__ | xand: try using areomail |
| 22:52.06 | r00t__ | anything that opens a socket fails |
| 22:52.09 | xand | anyway, only security holes in stable are fixed... other bugs are not. |
| 22:52.14 | r00t__ | you need to update it |
| 22:52.18 | r00t__ | WHY? |
| 22:52.22 | xand | because it's stable! |
| 22:52.27 | r00t__ | im not talking old-stable |
| 22:52.33 | r00t__ | i'm talking stable |
| 22:52.35 | xand | yes. |
| 22:52.37 | bzed | r00t__: why do you need to update it? |
| 22:52.37 | enouf | !woody |
| 22:52.38 | dpkg | i guess woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" Security Support for Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 was terminated on 2006-06-30 |
| 22:52.40 | r00t__ | your normal distro |
| 22:52.41 | xand | and nothing is updated in stable. |
| 22:52.42 | xand | EVER |
| 22:52.46 | bzed | !stable |
| 22:52.47 | dpkg | i heard stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Sarge (3.1), or ask me about releases. |
| 22:52.59 | r00t__ | bzed: I use areomail, etc |
| 22:53.03 | maddash | !enter | r00t__ |
| 22:53.07 | r00t__ | bzed: I need fsocket support |
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| 22:53.23 | jelly-home | r00t__: you'll need to upgrade php, then |
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| 22:53.35 | bzed | r00t__: I think there's php5 in sarge, too |
| 22:53.38 | r00t__ | jelly-home: I can't , debian-stable hasn't upgraded it |
| 22:53.50 | enouf | there's backports |
| 22:53.51 | jelly-home | !tell r00t__ about backports |
| 22:53.54 | xand | r00t__: there is no "fsocket()" function... what are you talking about? |
| 22:54.09 | xand | http://uk2.php.net/manual-lookup.php?pattern=fsocket |
| 22:54.12 | maddash | LOL "foscket" |
| 22:54.41 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5490 |
| 22:54.43 | xand | r00t__: show me somethign that explains this bug. |
| 22:55.12 | r00t__ | http://www.bluehostforum.com/showthread.php?t=40 |
| 22:55.17 | r00t__ | see fsocket |
| 22:55.19 | bzed | r00t__: could it be that your problem is totally different? like you're not allowed to open a socket, or it's blocked by a firewall? |
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| 22:55.28 | r00t__ | xand: no I will not, I don't like you |
| 22:55.29 | jelly-home | r00t__: I have a CMS and some custom php apps happily running on php4 from stable... it appears that your bug isn't that critical |
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| 22:55.35 | xand | r00t__: go away then |
| 22:55.39 | r00t__ | bzed: no, it's my own server |
| 22:55.40 | maddash | pinx: ok. does `lsmod|grep freq_table` return anything? what about `lsmod|grep speedstep-lib`? |
| 22:55.42 | r00t__ | xand: fuck you |
| 22:55.50 | r00t__ | shithead |
| 22:55.51 | bzed | !lart r00t__ |
| 22:55.59 | r00t__ | !lart xand |
| 22:56.01 | enouf | !shoot r00t__ |
| 22:56.03 | jelly-home | r00t__: please be polite if you want help. |
| 22:56.20 | xand | r00t__: there's no function called "fsocket"... that must be your problem... run along now |
| 22:56.37 | Supaplex | !date |
| 22:56.37 | dpkg | The current date is 2007.02.24 22:56:37 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 22:56.38 | enouf | !saturday |
| 22:56.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, saturday is Tardsday Eve |
| 22:56.39 | bzed | r00t__: first thing: you mean fsockopen. second thing: I can;t see any related bug to that in php4 |
| 22:56.43 | r00t__ | jelly-home: is there a way I could have apt get the php4-bla stuff from testing, and keep everything else as stable? |
| 22:56.43 | jelly-home | dvs_: 4 minutes til Sunday here |
| 22:56.44 | amphi | !saturday |
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| 22:56.54 | dvs_ | must be |
| 22:56.55 | bzed | !tell r00t__ abot bpo |
| 22:56.57 | zealot | hi, peoples |
| 22:57.00 | Supaplex | !tell r00t__ -about pinning |
| 22:57.01 | jelly-home | r00t__: no, you'll want backports. |
| 22:57.04 | maddash | pinx: most likely neither cmd will return anything, so, again, in no particular order: `sudo modprobe speedstep-lib` and `sudo modprobe freq_table` |
| 22:57.09 | Supaplex | !tell r00t__ -about backports |
| 22:57.11 | bzed | !tell r00t__ abot backports |
| 22:57.12 | enouf | amphi: you;re late! lol |
| 22:57.16 | r00t__ | xand: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=27509 |
| 22:57.17 | maddash | !tell r00t__ about the enter key |
| 22:57.18 | zealot | ha ha ha |
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| 22:57.31 | maddash | !tell r00t__ about enter |
| 22:57.34 | jelly-home | r00t__: installing anything from testing at this point will upgrade libc6 and other important packages |
| 22:57.35 | zealot | how are you going? |
| 22:57.40 | maddash | my window only holds so much geez |
| 22:57.52 | r00t__ | jelly-home: how would I set it to use backports for php4 etc |
| 22:58.17 | jelly-home | r00t__: I'd try php5 from backports |
| 22:58.24 | amphi | enouf: yeah, t3h l4g |
| 22:58.26 | Supaplex | r00t__: that's all on the backports www site |
| 22:58.32 | Supaplex | faq / howto |
| 22:58.45 | bzed | r00t__: dpkg sent you all the stuff you need to know |
| 22:58.58 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5491 |
| 22:59.00 | Malf | r00t__: That bug looks to be from a version previous to the one in debian stable anyway |
| 22:59.07 | jelly-home | yeah. I don't think there's a php4 backport however |
| 22:59.36 | maddash | pinx: erm, why'd you modinfo speedstep-lib? |
| 22:59.36 | enouf | roll your own .. if you dare mon frare |
| 22:59.37 | bzed | r00t__: so you fool. that bug you've linked to was fixed in php 4.3.4. sarge ships 4.3.10 - where's the problem? |
| 23:00.00 | jelly-home | r00t__: do verify your bug exists in php4 from stable, if might be a red herring |
| 23:00.08 | pinx | maddash: `sudo modprobe speedstep-lib` and `sudo modprobe freq_table` gave no output |
| 23:00.09 | bzed | r00t__: I've used fsockopen in php4 on sarge. it just works TM |
| 23:00.17 | maddash | pinx: good. |
| 23:00.21 | bzed | Supaplex: openssl |
| 23:00.24 | bzed | probably |
| 23:00.25 | maddash | pinx: now `sudo modprobe speedstep-smi` |
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| 23:01.05 | pinx | maddash: sudo modprobe speedstep-smi -- FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_smi (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-smi.ko): No such device |
| 23:01.47 | r00t__ | bzed: my fsocketopen just doesn't work after I updated |
| 23:01.58 | r00t__ | areomail doesn't work |
| 23:02.07 | r00t__ | phpirc doesn't work |
| 23:02.21 | r00t__ | phpwebproxy only 1/2 works |
| 23:02.29 | r00t__ | it broke manythings of usefulness |
| 23:02.56 | xand | that google fsockopen example on the bug report page works fine |
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| 23:03.02 | xand | on stable's PHP |
| 23:03.22 | bzed | r00t__: seriously, all those stuff are things which jsut open security holes. php is not for doing any socket related stuff, it's pain in the ass anyway. but why don;t you come up with a serious error-message? |
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| 23:03.47 | bassinboy | if my pro-ftp server is going reallly really slow, what should i check for? |
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| 23:04.09 | bzed | bassinboy: I think you can limit the transfer in the config. not sure where in the config, though |
| 23:04.09 | jelly-home | r00t__: you're using this, right? http://nicolaas.net/aeromail/am252.tgz |
| 23:04.13 | sidjster | what is a good temp monitor |
| 23:04.15 | r00t__ | bzed: umm... because I want to have "open security holes" |
| 23:04.17 | maddash | pinx: sorry this is taking so long. have you tried `speedstep-centrino` or `speedstep-ich` in place of `speedstep-smi`? |
| 23:04.20 | r00t__ | jelly-home: areomail, yes |
| 23:04.34 | squisher | sidjster: gkrellm is a good monitoring app |
| 23:04.39 | sidjster | ty |
| 23:04.39 | xand | r00t__: and what is the actual error message? |
| 23:04.43 | pinx | maddash: no problem - I appreciate the efforts :) |
| 23:04.43 | jelly-home | r00t__: but from that site, and that version? |
| 23:04.50 | r00t__ | no |
| 23:04.57 | r00t__ | areomail 1 |
| 23:05.11 | r00t__ | the thing is I upgrade php |
| 23:05.21 | jelly-home | r00t__: the one that the author says "this software hasn't been updated for two years"? |
| 23:05.26 | bzed | ROFL |
| 23:05.29 | r00t__ | and many of the things that have worked for 5 years stop working |
| 23:05.33 | bassinboy | bzed: for some reason the whole server is lagging horrible bad. even logging in |
| 23:05.34 | r00t__ | bzed: go to hell |
| 23:05.44 | r00t__ | jelly-home: yes that software |
| 23:05.52 | pinx | maddash: `speedstep-centrino` or `speedstep-ich' gave the error |
| 23:05.58 | bzed | r00t__: are you sure you're still alone on your box? |
| 23:06.05 | xand | r00t__: what did you upgrade *from*? |
| 23:06.11 | jelly-home | r00t__: this is not uncommon, PHP is developped flakily and upstream doesn't care much about backward compatibility |
| 23:06.12 | r00t__ | bzed: I run a shell server with 300 users |
| 23:06.18 | bzed | ROOOOFFFFLLLLL |
| 23:06.23 | bzed | sorry :D |
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| 23:06.28 | r00t__ | it's been running for 5 years |
| 23:06.39 | r00t__ | bzed: you've never done anything important in your life |
| 23:06.51 | superbia | Hi, is it possible to easly convert or run freebsd code on linux? |
| 23:06.55 | maddash | pinx: pastebin your /var/log/syslog |
| 23:06.56 | bzed | r00t__: oh? amazing that you knwo me so well |
| 23:07.17 | jelly-home | r00t__: dude, PHP is sucky that way, you really HAVE TO test the apps in a test environment before upgrading the production site |
| 23:07.17 | bzed | superbia: get the sources and build it under linux, ususally work |
| 23:07.19 | enouf | !8ball |
| 23:07.22 | xand | r00t__: did you upgrade from php3 or what? |
| 23:07.23 | r00t__ | jelly-home: if I try to downgrade to php3 then php scripts no longer execute and just try to get you to download them |
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| 23:07.25 | bzed | superbia: what are you looking for? |
| 23:07.40 | jelly-home | r00t__: uhh... you had php3 before? |
| 23:07.43 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5492 |
| 23:07.50 | bzed | r00t__: dpkg -l libc6 | head -1 << what's the output of that? |
| 23:07.54 | r00t__ | I remeber that happening when I upgraded to a recent php4 too |
| 23:07.55 | amphi | r00t__: that's you httpd.conf no doubt |
| 23:08.00 | r00t__ | but I fixed it some how |
| 23:08.04 | amphi | s/you/your |
| 23:08.07 | r00t__ | with httpd |
| 23:08.13 | r00t__ | when I tried to downgrade |
| 23:08.16 | superbia | bzed: ahh okay... I saw pictosniff on a site and wanted to try it out as me and my girlfriend resently got us ds machines... |
| 23:08.18 | r00t__ | I couldn't fix it |
| 23:08.24 | bzed | r00t__: << your nick suits you totally btw. |
| 23:08.27 | superbia | bzed: would be fun to see if it worked or not |
| 23:08.36 | xand | r00t__: if the problem is that php3 code doesn't work on php4, well that's no surprise at all |
| 23:08.45 | jelly-home | r00t__: the download problem is usually caused with missing AddHandler directive in apache's configuration |
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| 23:09.00 | amphi | bzed: heh |
| 23:09.01 | r00t__ | jelly-home: explain |
| 23:09.34 | Malf | when you swap between different php versions you need to tell apache to use the new version |
| 23:09.37 | bzed | superbia: hmm, from my mind I don;t think the driver it's working on is avaiable in linux. but I guess you can modify the code :P |
| 23:09.38 | Malf | basically |
| 23:09.56 | bzed | r00t__: dpkg -l libc6 | head -1 << what's the output of that? |
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| 23:10.30 | superbia | bzed: hehe okay... but I need to get it to compile first I guess :) |
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| 23:10.39 | bzed | r00t__: dpkg -l libc6 | head -1 << what's the output of that? |
| 23:10.46 | bzed | could you _please_ post that? |
| 23:10.51 | r00t__ | jelly-home: apace 1.x |
| 23:10.58 | jelly-home | r00t__: please paste output of what bzed is suggesting |
| 23:11.01 | Malf | apache 1 to boot |
| 23:11.02 | Malf | damn |
| 23:11.05 | r00t__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.06 | r00t__ | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 23:11.06 | dpkg | No packages found matching libc6 | head -1 |
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| 23:11.21 | jelly-home | r00t__: run dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 23:11.30 | jelly-home | bzed: not head |
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| 23:11.38 | r00t__ | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 23:11.53 | jelly-home | ok, that looks like stable all right ;-) |
| 23:11.54 | bzed | jelly-home: ouch, indeed |
| 23:11.56 | pinx | maddash: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5493 |
| 23:12.11 | maddash | pinx: pastebin your /var/log/syslog |
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| 23:12.45 | maddash | pinx: that's the entire file? |
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| 23:13.43 | maddash | pinx: go to http://pastebin.ca and **upload** /var/sys/log, not tail the last few lines... |
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| 23:14.15 | Malf | r00t__: If you run phpversion through a page in apache will it show php4 still? (Just to verify since there was talk of attempting to go back to php3) |
| 23:14.39 | r00t__ | yes |
| 23:14.54 | bzed | r00t__: now you could just pastebinn the output of the error which is shown by php when you run one of your programs |
| 23:14.58 | r00t__ | since it didn't work I just went back to php4 |
| 23:15.10 | Malf | alright |
| 23:15.11 | jelly-home | r00t__: in /etc/apache/httpd.conf, you should have lines with "AddType application/x-httpd-php".... read the comments there. |
| 23:15.23 | r00t__ | ok |
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| 23:15.37 | pinx | maddash: all /var/log/syslog http://channels.debian.net/paste/5494 |
| 23:16.15 | jelly-home | r00t__: but since you're upgrading 5yr old apps, from an obsolete version of PHP, it's only natural that things would break. |
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| 23:17.21 | lisapc | hi |
| 23:17.34 | lisapc | where can I download the latest version of Dbian pls?> |
| 23:17.58 | amphi | !tell lisapc about etch |
| 23:18.22 | lisapc | amphi whats the latest dbian stable? |
| 23:18.31 | maddash | pinx: this should output a simple one-liner: `cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep step` |
| 23:18.52 | bzed | lisapc: it's sarge - but etch will come out soon |
| 23:18.54 | lisapc | amphi is Sarge still the latest? 3.1? |
| 23:19.00 | maddash | bzed: "soon" |
| 23:19.14 | lisapc | bzed cool, when will etch be released? version 4? |
| 23:19.17 | amphi | lisapc: sarge is latest stable, and quite long in the tooth |
| 23:19.20 | Malf | here at #debian we work in relative terms |
| 23:19.23 | bzed | maddash: soon as in: shorter time than sarge needed *g* |
| 23:19.28 | samu1 | what is the most simple tool for creating a debian - live cd? |
| 23:19.35 | creature | I've noticed that there's been less updates recently to etch. Which is probably a good sign. |
| 23:19.37 | lisapc | long in the tooth? |
| 23:19.46 | caitriona | it will probably be here in 2 ^ number of times people ask days. |
| 23:19.48 | bzed | lisapc: "when it is ready" ;) |
| 23:19.52 | amphi | rc bug count has been going up somewhat of late ;) |
| 23:19.52 | jelly-home | lisapc: it's old |
| 23:20.06 | bzed | there're not many RC bugs in etch anymoe |
| 23:20.13 | bzed | I tihink 50 or so |
| 23:20.16 | amphi | 103 |
| 23:20.23 | bzed | ah |
| 23:20.29 | maddash | here at #debian where we're near the event horizon of a black hole, time dilation factors must be taken into account of the etch release. |
| 23:20.34 | amphi | according to the pretty chart, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 23:20.35 | bzed | but nothign you need for a server if I remember right |
| 23:21.23 | maddash | pinx: don't bother pastebin-ing the output - just paste it here directly |
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| 23:21.23 | lisapc | i tried to install ubuntu on my new notebook but it fails to install, Will Debian give me better luck? |
| 23:21.35 | amphi | lisapc: who knows? ;) |
| 23:21.44 | Malf | lisapc: It might, it might not. I've seen a lot of people have trouble with ubuntu installs over the past month or so |
| 23:21.47 | pinx | maddash: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep step ---- stepping : 1 |
| 23:21.47 | maddash | amphi: keep in mind - time dilation... |
| 23:22.30 | bzed | lisapc: on recent notebooks you wnt to use etch, though |
| 23:23.46 | Malf | lisapc: and you may need to stop in here a few times for help getting little bits and pieces to work right if the hardware is particularly new |
| 23:23.54 | r00t__ | jelly-home: it has worked since 5 yrs ago.. I thought debian was supposed to be the stable distor |
| 23:24.01 | r00t__ | I update every few days |
| 23:24.47 | Malf | r00t__: And it is the stable distro. I suspect you'dve had things breaking sooner and more often in most others |
| 23:25.09 | r00t__ | Malf: not stable enough |
| 23:25.10 | bzed | r00t__: php in stable didn't change since stable came out |
| 23:25.11 | r00t__ | Malf: not stable enough |
| 23:25.23 | jelly-home | bzed: yes it did. |
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| 23:26.03 | bzed | jelly-home: oh, my shame, then it was after I went to testing on my servers |
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| 23:26.12 | lisapc | Malf ok ty |
| 23:26.22 | bzed | r00t__: well you still didn;t post any error message |
| 23:26.26 | Malf | r00t__: If it's not stable then why does it work correctly for everyone else who uses php4 on stable? Most likely there's some sort of configuration issue in play here |
| 23:26.27 | Malf | but |
| 23:26.28 | bzed | r00t__: show us the actual problem |
| 23:26.31 | Malf | as bzed keeps suggesting |
| 23:26.32 | lisapc | bzed i have c2d, i need etch? |
| 23:26.34 | Malf | show us the message |
| 23:26.38 | jelly-home | r00t__: I have the latest, php4 4.3.10-18 installed since Dec 27 2006, it's reasonable you would have caught the bug around then if you update that often |
| 23:26.56 | r00t__ | jelly-home: yes, that's when I got the bug around |
| 23:27.04 | bzed | lisapc: I doubt the sarge kernel will work with your chipset, so yes, you want etch |
| 23:27.04 | r00t__ | i just didn't complain untill now |
| 23:27.06 | Malf | and then we can work on fixing it |
| 23:27.19 | jelly-home | r00t__: it's best to submit a bug report. |
| 23:27.20 | Malf | none of the changes between 17 and 18 would involve fsockopen though |
| 23:27.22 | Malf | but |
| 23:27.24 | Malf | if there's a bug |
| 23:27.26 | Malf | as jelly says |
| 23:27.27 | Malf | submit it |
| 23:27.28 | maddash | pinx: in this exact order: `sudo modprobe -r speedstep-lib` then `sudo modprobe speedstep-lib relaxed_check=1` then `sudo modprobe speedstep-smi` |
| 23:27.33 | lisapc | in Azerus, what does Decentralised tracking mean? |
| 23:27.46 | lisapc | bzed I have Centrino |
| 23:28.04 | nomasteryoda | being tracked by multiple machines... |
| 23:28.05 | bzed | lisapc: i know ;) |
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| 23:28.06 | jelly-home | r00t__: use reportbug, or /msg dpkg bts |
| 23:28.18 | bzed | r00t__: well, first show use the actual error message |
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| 23:28.24 | nomasteryoda | all over the web instead of just one or a few trackers |
| 23:28.29 | r00t__ | Connected. |
| 23:28.29 | r00t__ | Warning: socket_set_blocking(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /home/bb/ircphp/main.php on line 75 |
| 23:28.45 | bzed | that's a warning |
| 23:28.58 | r00t__ | Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:6668 in /home/bb/ircphp/main.php on line 70 |
| 23:29.01 | r00t__ | Connected. |
| 23:29.03 | r00t__ | Warning: socket_set_blocking(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /home/bb/ircphp/main.php on line 75 |
| 23:29.05 | pinx | maddash: after the first 2 had no output, I got sudo modprobe speedstep-smi --FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_smi (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-smi.ko): No such device |
| 23:29.11 | bzed | !tell r00t__ about paster |
| 23:29.12 | xand | !paste |
| 23:29.12 | r00t__ | areomail and friends don't work either |
| 23:29.12 | dpkg | Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 23:29.16 | r00t__ | I googled |
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| 23:29.28 | Mark_Iron | re .. where can I change the keyboard layout / language in etch? |
| 23:29.29 | r00t__ | and found other people had the problem after upgrading |
| 23:29.39 | jelly-home | r00t__: stupid question: is/was an irc server actually running at localhost:6668 at the time? |
| 23:29.43 | r00t__ | yes |
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| 23:30.11 | r00t__ | areomail can't connect to the IMAP2 server with fsocketopen also |
| 23:30.14 | Tagor | Hi |
| 23:30.21 | Tagor | Can someone tell me how to change the keyboard settings in the CLI? |
| 23:30.23 | jelly-home | r00t__: can you do a "telnet localhost 6668" as that user? |
| 23:30.25 | r00t__ | and phpwebproxy doesn't work correctly either |
| 23:30.34 | maddash | pinx: there's nothing else i can think of - your cpu probably doesn't support cpu scaling.. |
| 23:30.47 | r00t__ | the user is www-data |
| 23:30.53 | r00t__ | (apache runs it) |
| 23:30.55 | jelly-home | r00t__: yep |
| 23:31.01 | pinx | maddash: ok -- thanks for trying -- it was very interesting |
| 23:31.29 | maddash | pinx: yes, i made the mistake of assuming that your cpu supported scaling in the first place. |
| 23:31.34 | jelly-home | r00t__: su -s /bin/sh - www-data ... then try connecting to the port |
| 23:31.46 | pinx | maddash: it seems not :( |
| 23:31.54 | maddash | maddash: sorry for the long winding wild-goose chase. |
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| 23:32.01 | pinx | maddash: just too old... What's the beef on apm? |
| 23:32.25 | jelly-home | r00t__: also, pastebin the output of COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l \*php4\* apache\* |
| 23:32.27 | m6502 | ndiswrapper on debian sarge anyone ? |
| 23:32.31 | r00t__ | jelly-home: yes I can connect |
| 23:32.37 | Malf | it seems to me that it's poorly written php ftw |
| 23:32.47 | Malf | if it's not getting a valid resource |
| 23:32.53 | Malf | to set blocking in the first place |
| 23:33.02 | maddash | pinx: apm is the older version of acpi -- stuff that puts your computer into standby, hibernate, etc. |
| 23:33.03 | Malf | but I have to grab supper so |
| 23:33.04 | Malf | yeah |
| 23:33.19 | jelly-home | Malf: eh, like php apps do error checking |
| 23:33.24 | pinx | maddash: yea - just rfeading the man atm |
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| 23:33.45 | Malf | too true... <3 php |
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| 23:33.57 | pinx | maddash: but no fan control or similar - my laptop gets mighty hot |
| 23:33.57 | r00t__ | jelly-home: http://rafb.net/p/l8TjXN17.html |
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| 23:34.00 | tedz | is there any way to install debian from an usb stick ? |
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| 23:34.41 | awbassett | tedz: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 23:34.52 | awbassett | tedz: I found that with a simple google search |
| 23:35.55 | tedz | awbassett: yeah sry, i found it too, but i was under the impression that those guides were about running the OS from a stick, not installing from |
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| 23:36.27 | awbassett | tedz: the title of that document is 'installing debian sarge from a usb memory stick' |
| 23:36.50 | bzed | tedz: that will work for sarge only. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ has some files for the usb stick install with etch, I just don;t have a stick to find out how it works exactly |
| 23:37.00 | awbassett | tedz: I've never tried doing what you're doing either |
| 23:37.15 | awbassett | tedz: please let us know how you end up |
| 23:37.24 | bzed | tedz: you probably will find that info in the d-i wiki,. though |
| 23:38.18 | tedz | bzed: thanks |
| 23:38.19 | Tagor | Does anyone know how to change the keyboard input settings on the command line? |
| 23:38.21 | tedz | awbassett: yes |
| 23:38.48 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: for X or for the linux console? |
| 23:39.02 | Tagor | Linux console, dondelelcaro |
| 23:39.09 | bzed | tedz: I could imagine you just get the boot.img.gz, zcat it on a stick... and mount it, probably the kernel is missing, if not, jsut boot |
| 23:39.26 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: dpkg-reconfigure linux-console |
| 23:39.48 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: you can also use loadkeys and/or keymap to do it more manually. |
| 23:40.36 | Mark_Iron | HELP wanted - do you have an etch installation on a sparc system ? |
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| 23:40.53 | tedz | bzed: well, i can just give up now :( i need a running linux system to set up the stick, which i haven't |
| 23:40.54 | dondelelcaro | Mark_Iron: I know people who do, but it'd help if you just asked a question |
| 23:41.39 | bzed | tedz: no, there's some dd replacement for windows |
| 23:42.11 | bzed | tedz: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite/ |
| 23:42.12 | Mark_Iron | dondelelcaro: great :) ... I chosed german language and all appriopriate german settings .. but still have an english keyboard layout .. |
| 23:42.31 | tedz | bzed: hm ok, the guide said "you will need a system where Linux is already running" though |
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| 23:42.44 | amphi | Mark_Iron: dpkg-reconfigure console-data perhaps |
| 23:42.50 | bzed | tedz: the guide is for sarge |
| 23:43.02 | Mark_Iron | amphi: tnx . I will try it |
| 23:43.05 | bzed | tedz: I'd give it a try and dump the boot.img.gz on the stick and try to boot |
| 23:43.15 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> It says 'Package `linux-console' is not installed and no info is available.' |
| 23:43.20 | bzed | tedz: you need to gunzip it first, though |
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| 23:43.45 | tedz | bzed: well winrar can gunzip ? |
| 23:43.55 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> Maybe you know how to fix this: I have a barcode scanner attached to my linux debian computer. But after scanning a few times I get a lot of change characters |
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| 23:44.09 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> I guess it has something to do with the keyboard settings |
| 23:44.18 | x_link | Hi... I just re-installed my Debian Etch... |
| 23:44.28 | bzed | tedz: not sure, I'm on linux. If you really can't unzip it in windows I can do it for you and give you the gunzipped file to download, it's 250MB though |
| 23:44.33 | x_link | This time I had 1GB RAM instead of 512MB RAM.. and I think it went a bit faster to install. |
| 23:44.49 | bzed | x_link: no stories please |
| 23:44.49 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: no, it doesn't ahve anything to do with the keyboard settings |
| 23:44.51 | x_link | Does RAM have anything to do with it? Or was it just me. |
| 23:45.04 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: that generally means that the barcode scanner isn't just sending characters or is otherwise screwing up the console. |
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| 23:45.08 | x_link | bzed: No story.. I was asking something... |
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| 23:45.45 | bzed | x_link: more ram is never bad |
| 23:45.57 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> Yes, but I guess it has something to do with the input it receives. It's set at 'KEYBOARD, PS/2, US' I guess that's ok? On my Windows PC it just sends numbers and a return |
| 23:46.05 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: sorry, it's probably console-tools now; |
| 23:46.08 | tedz | bzed: ok, i'll try to get my head around how to proceed first, been a year or two since i touched *nix |
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| 23:46.38 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> If I only set the barcode scanner to output numbers (without return) it still shows strange chars after a few times |
| 23:46.56 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: if it's working correctly at all, then they keymap is set properly |
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| 23:47.07 | dondelelcaro | Tagor: it'd help to know too what the strange characters are |
| 23:47.32 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> Hold on I will try again and note the chars |
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| 23:47.52 | ki11bi11 | why does tzdat not being configured kill my system? |
| 23:47.54 | dondelelcaro | Mark_Iron: dpkg-reconfigure console-tools; should allow you to reconfigure it; otherwise, you can use loadkeys to load the layout manually. |
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| 23:48.07 | dondelelcaro | tzdat? |
| 23:48.23 | ki11bi11 | tzdata |
| 23:48.42 | dondelelcaro | ki11bi11: what about it? you'll have to give us a lot more information than that before we can help you. |
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| 23:49.52 | simonrvn | why does my pony lick my face when i see her? |
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| 23:50.04 | simonrvn | note: i don't have a pony |
| 23:50.08 | Mark_Iron | thank you very much dondelelcaro .. I've just changed thy layout (sun keyboard type 6) ot type 5 .. (there were only britisch layout for type6) ... and have to ssh to change it back ;o) |
| 23:50.17 | ki11bi11 | post installation script returned exit status 139 libc6 depends on tzdata |
| 23:50.27 | simonrvn | oooff... |
| 23:50.37 | lunaphyte | why might my kernel stop logging? |
| 23:50.39 | simonrvn | SIGSEGV |
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| 23:51.12 | x_link | bzed: I know... but I was wondering if more RAM makes the installation faster? |
| 23:51.18 | x_link | Maybe a stupid question though. |
| 23:51.40 | dondelelcaro | ki11bi11: you'll have to figure out why it exited with exit status 139. Add set -x under the shebang line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.postinst; and run dpkg --configure -a |
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| 23:51.47 | bzed | x_link: the installer should not use 512 MB ram, so I doubt it |
| 23:51.49 | dondelelcaro | ki11bi11: paste the entire output to a paste site. |
| 23:51.53 | x_link | bzed: Okey. |
| 23:51.55 | simonrvn | the system will use whatever ram there is, don't worry about that... |
| 23:52.07 | simonrvn | it'll use whatever it needs... |
| 23:52.18 | tedz | bzed: seems like i can use a progg called WinImage |
| 23:52.18 | bzed | x_link: which kernel are you running? |
| 23:52.29 | bzed | tedz: I linked you to rawwrite up there |
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| 23:52.35 | xingu | simonrvn: but will it respect it in the morning? |
| 23:52.41 | simonrvn | yup |
| 23:52.57 | Regner_ | ok, so i have samba installed, when i open the folder from my windows machine it does not ask me for a password or anything, how does it know what access to give me ? |
| 23:52.59 | simonrvn | if it doesn't you'll find out soon enough ;) |
| 23:53.39 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> It starts with normal numbers, then less numbers and then 'X@@&', '@@$)@#!&', '@%$)@#!&@' |
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| 23:53.51 | markybob | Regner_, apparently you have guest allowed in /etc/samba/smb.conf look in there |
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| 23:54.01 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> By looking at those characters it looks like it uses the chars above the number (like on your keyboard) |
| 23:54.03 | x_link | bzed: hrmm I actually don't know... Cause I always change when I install Debian. |
| 23:54.04 | bzed | Regner_: do you open a folder your windows machine shares? |
| 23:54.12 | bzed | x_link: uname -r |
| 23:54.14 | Regner_ | markybob: thank you I will take a look |
| 23:54.17 | ki11bi11 | dondelelcaro, OK |
| 23:54.17 | x_link | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8-3-k7 |
| 23:54.20 | x_link | bzed: ok |
| 23:54.27 | Regner_ | bzed: how so do you mena ? |
| 23:54.30 | Regner_ | mean* |
| 23:54.44 | x_link | 2.6.18-3-486 |
| 23:54.57 | bzed | Regner_: are you sharing a folder on your linux box and accessing it from windows or the other way round |
| 23:55.04 | x_link | brb |
| 23:55.19 | Regner_ | bzed: sharing from linux to windows |
| 23:55.50 | bzed | Regner_: ah ok, then markybob's way is the right to start |
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| 23:56.38 | Tagor | dondelelcaro >> Any idea? |
| 23:57.51 | Regner_ | I dont see any setting in the smb.con relating to guest |
| 23:58.26 | m6502 | Hello,... the error "invalid module format" on modprobe is about a messy kernel configuration ? |
| 23:58.36 | jelly-home | r00t__: looks like a reasonable sarge installation.. |
| 23:58.56 | jelly-home | r00t__: I guess your best bet is to report a bug and see what happens |
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| 23:59.38 | simonrvn | m6502: mix'n'matching gcc versions is the most common one; second most common is different source tree |
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