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| 00:00.09 | Klipsch | http://pastebin.ca/377744 |
| 00:00.23 | hatter | what does the debhelper sets mode: +1 724 do ? |
| 00:00.24 | infernix | Klipsch: oh right, /dev/sda5 is in the array but sdb5 isnt. so, also put up the output of mdadm --examine /dev/sda5 /dev/sdb5 |
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| 00:00.44 | infernix | hatter: limits max number of people in this channel, for mass joining (bot) protection |
| 00:00.49 | zinx | it's +l |
| 00:00.51 | zinx | not +1 |
| 00:01.01 | hatter | infernix ah, thx |
| 00:01.13 | Klipsch | http://pastebin.ca/377747 |
| 00:01.15 | hatter | zinx: thx also |
| 00:02.34 | infernix | Klipsch: on Sat Feb 24 00:12:37 2007, something messed up and made your /dev/sdb5 raid 1 partition go out of sync. are you missing any data on your /dev/md3 partiton? |
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| 00:03.25 | dual-man | is there a way to check if something is using the soundcard? |
| 00:03.39 | infernix | Klipsch: it is also possible that sdb is broken and thus it broke out of the raid1 sync |
| 00:03.46 | infernix | dual-man: fuser /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* |
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| 00:04.27 | Klipsch | i dont missing any data |
| 00:04.55 | tp76 | infernix: if sdb was broken, would not that also affect the other arrays? Also, he would not miss any data given that the array is still functional (degraded, though, but still functional). |
| 00:05.03 | dual-man | infernix: dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and dev/snd/timer what does this mean? |
| 00:05.06 | infernix | well it's more complex |
| 00:05.22 | infernix | dual-man: there's a process number behind that; ps auxw | grep [number] |
| 00:05.57 | infernix | Klipsch: somehow it seems as if sdb just broke out of the array without being broken, which is why it's still reporting that its part of the array. |
| 00:06.08 | dual-man | infernix: how can i kill the proc? |
| 00:06.24 | infernix | tp76: and no, not per se if read/writes failed only on that partition |
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| 00:07.07 | dual-man | or shut is down, i am trying to use the card with another app and it returns busyt |
| 00:07.09 | tp76 | raidhotadd /dev/md3 /dev/sdb5 might work (if this is because of a screw-up). |
| 00:07.40 | tp76 | (or the equivalent mdadm command) |
| 00:07.50 | Klipsch | whats the mdadm command then? |
| 00:07.51 | infernix | Klipsch: anyway, if you are sure you are not missing any data, you can simply add sdb5 to md3 again by running mdadm /dev/md3 --add /dev/sdb5 |
| 00:08.01 | Klipsch | ok |
| 00:08.06 | infernix | if --add fails, try --re-add |
| 00:08.19 | Klipsch | worked |
| 00:08.20 | infernix | then cat /proc/mdstat |
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| 00:08.25 | infernix | should be rebuilding |
| 00:08.36 | Klipsch | md3 : active raid1 sdb5[2] sda5[0] |
| 00:08.36 | Klipsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.36 | Klipsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.02 | infernix | check back in an hour if it worked, and in the meantime google for smartmontools and get it up and running |
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| 00:09.09 | SexyKen | Hey guys |
| 00:09.11 | SexyKen | Girls |
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| 00:09.14 | SexyKen | Whatnot. |
| 00:09.19 | SexyKen | Anyone know what execvp is? |
| 00:09.20 | hatter | infernix: what is smartmontools ? |
| 00:09.23 | Klipsch | ok |
| 00:09.26 | infernix | !jfgi |
| 00:09.26 | dpkg | i heard jfgi is just fucking google it |
| 00:09.32 | infernix | :) |
| 00:09.32 | Supaplex | SexyKen: there's a man page for it |
| 00:09.38 | Supaplex | system call |
| 00:09.45 | tp76 | infernix: why would he be missing any data? I'm just curious. Even if one of the drives failes, the data should still be intact. |
| 00:09.51 | SexyKen | For some reason it's telling me that a file doesn't exist |
| 00:09.53 | SexyKen | When it does |
| 00:09.59 | hatter | infernix: hehe, yes doing it at the same time as asking you :) |
| 00:10.10 | Supaplex | !paste SexyKen |
| 00:10.11 | dpkg | SexyKen: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 00:10.15 | n3kl | Anyone good with Cacti? Why would three of my servers report identical load average for the last 24 hours? |
| 00:10.19 | geo-rge | SexyKen: it has a man page; it's a C call which replaces the program running under the current process with another program |
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| 00:10.31 | hatter | how does this help with raid dropping out ? |
| 00:10.53 | madd_matt | Hey. Does anybody know if the etch installer can install KDE instead of gnome? |
| 00:11.14 | Supaplex | !tell madd_matt -about install kde |
| 00:11.22 | geo-rge | SexyKen: syscalls generally have a limited number of responses it could make... it might be saying file not found when it really means lib can't be loaded or something like that |
| 00:11.32 | SexyKen | Supaplex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5538 |
| 00:11.47 | infernix | tp76: the mirror broke, but the disk didn't seem to fail according to mdadm --examine output, so perhaps it happened after a power outage, which might mean that there's still data on the other disk if it's a logging disk for example. but thats probably rare cases. i mostly asked to ensure he didn't go and overwrite the only correct copy of the data :) |
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| 00:11.56 | geo-rge | but look at the bottom of the man page to see what its possible responses are and what it means by each |
| 00:12.10 | Supaplex | SexyKen: can you run the php from the shell? |
| 00:12.36 | SexyKen | What do you mean by run it? |
| 00:12.36 | infernix | dual-man: kill -9 [number] |
| 00:12.50 | Supaplex | it have have bad line feed formatting, not be executable, or the #! on line one points to a missing binary |
| 00:12.58 | madd_matt | Supaplex, I mean, it can be installed once you're in, but I was wondering if i can choose it during install. Its been a while since my install.... |
| 00:13.25 | abrotman | madd_matt: you mean with tasksel ? |
| 00:13.25 | Supaplex | madd_matt: just go with a bare install, and follow what dpkg said after. that's simple enough isn't it? |
| 00:13.36 | geo-rge | SexyKen: perhaps your cgi can be run from the command line |
| 00:13.51 | madd_matt | Supaplex, yes, that was my backup plan. |
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| 00:15.28 | Supaplex | I'm not sure which desktop you get stuck with on install :) |
| 00:15.29 | abrotman | the Desktop task installs gnome |
| 00:15.31 | geo-rge | a debian install -generally- does not install anything but the base before the first reboot |
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| 00:15.55 | geo-rge | so you -have- to start the debian you're installing before you can install more |
| 00:16.10 | abrotman | or i thought so |
| 00:16.19 | geo-rge | it's not a "backup plan", it's "the plan" |
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| 00:17.00 | abrotman | though --task-packages doesn't list it |
| 00:17.12 | geo-rge | if you just install the base, you don't get stuck with any desktop... no x libs, configs or executables are installed as of that point |
| 00:17.45 | abrotman | geo-rge: i think he meant with tasksel |
| 00:17.46 | geo-rge | you get just barely enough to learn bash and fix some core things |
| 00:17.55 | abrotman | but the KDE CD1 does KDe with the desktop task |
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| 00:18.18 | geo-rge | abrotman: heya... um, what? restate that last thing pls |
| 00:18.31 | x_link | Hi geo-rge =) |
| 00:18.42 | abrotman | geo-rge: there's a CD1 with KDE now .. and the tasksel on there will install KDE |
| 00:18.52 | funbags | whats a alternative to pastbin to show something on here? |
| 00:18.54 | geo-rge | but is he talking about running tasksel before the first reboot? |
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| 00:19.05 | geo-rge | rafb.net/paste |
| 00:19.13 | abrotman | !paster |
| 00:19.13 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 00:19.24 | funbags | thx |
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| 00:20.08 | claudio_ | yo |
| 00:20.32 | geo-rge | oh _o!pne7) |
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| 00:20.55 | infernix | well, somewhere tasksel allows you to choose manual package selection |
| 00:20.58 | funbags | Could someone help me out with this issue - > http://channels.debian.net/paste/5539 - it seems the past week i've had to reboot my home server every day in the morning |
| 00:21.01 | infernix | that'd put you into dselect i think |
| 00:21.08 | infernix | but thats not, like, trivial :) |
| 00:21.31 | geo-rge | funbags: why is that? and why does it seem that way? |
| 00:21.39 | justin | funbags: run a memory test, then a badblocks check |
| 00:21.56 | funbags | justin: i have memtest running now |
| 00:22.02 | infernix | funbags: there's not enough lines in your pastebin, but yeah, looks like unstable hardware. |
| 00:22.07 | infernix | funbags: run test 5 in memtest |
| 00:22.21 | geo-rge | kernel oops. let the machine run memtest86 for a few hours |
| 00:22.34 | funbags | will do, thx guys |
| 00:22.36 | rpc | why wouldn't tar jxf unpack tar.bz2 ? |
| 00:22.44 | geo-rge | oh, ok... so is it saying anything? |
| 00:22.48 | infernix | rpc: old version of tar? |
| 00:22.55 | justin | rpc: you tell us? |
| 00:22.56 | rpc | oh crap yes could be, I then |
| 00:23.03 | rpc | it's -I |
| 00:23.05 | geo-rge | rpc: does it say why? |
| 00:23.16 | rpc | well it didn't |
| 00:23.22 | geo-rge | what did it say? |
| 00:23.34 | rpc | i solved that already - it just didn't like "j" switch |
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| 00:23.47 | rpc | some tar versions use "I" for bz2 |
| 00:23.49 | geo-rge | ok, so to look forensically... |
| 00:24.15 | geo-rge | did it say anything to indicate it didn't like how you were expressing the command? |
| 00:24.50 | geo-rge | (this goes to improving your problem determining skills) |
| 00:25.32 | geo-rge | when you say "it didn't say", we think: Oh, he's saying it failed without saying ANYTHING, also known as a silent failure) |
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| 00:26.22 | geo-rge | rpc: so you must be running debian potato or earlier |
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| 00:26.31 | infernix | woody |
| 00:26.42 | geo-rge | potato+1 |
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| 00:27.08 | infernix | i upgraded a box that i installed in 2001 to etch this week |
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| 00:27.50 | geo-rge | ok, so he doesn't want to improve his skills... good luck with that... |
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| 00:28.11 | abrotman | gah ... file more bugs! |
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| 00:28.49 | geo-rge | I have a fly, a cockroach and a snail already... and they're filed down as far as they'll go! |
| 00:29.05 | infernix | im stunned that I didn't before. debtags rock |
| 00:29.33 | abrotman | geo-rge: snails are bugs in your country ? |
| 00:29.48 | geo-rge | once they're filed, yes |
| 00:29.55 | x3n0 | how can i go about creating a swap partion on a running system? |
| 00:30.05 | abrotman | mkswap |
| 00:30.19 | infernix | x3n0: mkswap /dev/[hs]dXY; swapon /dev/[hs]dXY |
| 00:30.32 | geo-rge | before filing, they're just snails without a purpose in life... |
| 00:30.37 | infernix | x3n0: don't forget fstab |
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| 00:31.53 | x3n0 | will mkswap automagically resize my ext3 fs properly? |
| 00:32.01 | geo-rge | no |
| 00:32.04 | abrotman | woohoo .. got home just before the rain! |
| 00:32.10 | geo-rge | it's not also fdisk |
| 00:32.26 | geo-rge | what it will do is try to use all the space there |
| 00:32.27 | amphi | x3n0: you could make a swap file |
| 00:32.55 | scrillaz | what program can i use to resize an avi file? |
| 00:33.01 | funbags | infernix: p.s. why test 5? |
| 00:33.06 | tp76 | For anyone trying to install Debian on an Intel P965 chipset (Core 2 Duo) with the JMicron chip, the answer is simple; Debian does not support it yet (not 3.1 nor the should-be-here-by-now 4.0). The solution is not booting USB sticks, creating your own installers, or otherwise wasting time. It's grabbing the latest Etch installer and install ;-) (yes, this is the answer I'd wanted when I asked). |
| 00:33.12 | Caelum | why does find . -maxdepth 0 -mmin 10000 not return anything? |
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| 00:33.16 | x3n0 | yeh. what is the performance impact compared to a swap partion? |
| 00:33.36 | infernix | funbags: copying memory blocks seems to lead to the quickest results if your ram is unstable. this is external information |
| 00:33.55 | geo-rge | tp76: so it's a kernel issue |
| 00:33.55 | infernix | tp76: uhm.. are you sure it doesn't in IDE mode? |
| 00:34.03 | tp76 | geo-rge: no, it's a Linux/Debian issue. |
| 00:34.15 | geo-rge | what supports hardware? |
| 00:34.18 | infernix | tp76: the JMicron can be put to AHCI, RAID and IDE mode |
| 00:34.22 | amphi | x3n0: not too much I imagine, given the difference between ram and swap ;) |
| 00:34.22 | geo-rge | kernels. |
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| 00:34.36 | tp76 | infernix: yes, I'm sure. 3.1 doesn't even recognize my SATA drive. Let alone my PATA optical. 2.6.18 at least sees it. |
| 00:34.45 | x3n0 | amphi, cool |
| 00:34.46 | geo-rge | what doesn't support hardware, and instead depends on drivers in the kernel? |
| 00:34.52 | geo-rge | everything else. |
| 00:34.55 | simonrvn | swap file vs. partition is pretty simple, faster on a partition 'cause the system doesn't have to deal with an underlying filesystem |
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| 00:35.25 | simonrvn | ...that the swap file lives on... they're handy in a pinch, or full-time however |
| 00:35.25 | x3n0 | gotya |
| 00:35.27 | infernix | tp76: well, I migrated my sata disks so I didn't do a fresh install on this c2d. i do recommend putting everything on AHCI though |
| 00:35.52 | defcon8 | how do I find out my bogomips? |
| 00:35.58 | infernix | defcon8: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 00:36.06 | defcon8 | thanks |
| 00:36.08 | tp76 | infernix: tried everything anyone could come up with to no avail. It's really simple; the hardware isn't supported. The latest etch installer (which uses 2.6.18 IIRC) works fine, though. |
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| 00:36.39 | abrotman | !listkeys 965 |
| 00:36.39 | infernix | tp76: well I guess it should work if you put the ICH8 to compatible, it'll behave as a PATA piix |
| 00:36.40 | dpkg | Factoid search of '965' by key (2): rfc1965 ;; rfc965. |
| 00:36.42 | geo-rge | defcon8: your next question should be "but what do bogomips mean anyway?" answer: nothing; the value is used to tune a loop |
| 00:36.44 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:36.45 | tp76 | Funny how OpenBSD 4.0 supports all of this, though. |
| 00:36.51 | infernix | tp76: but not the jmicron possibly |
| 00:37.09 | defcon8 | geo-rge, I know |
| 00:37.12 | tp76 | infernix: tried that too. Nothing. I've a PATA optical. |
| 00:37.13 | defcon8 | I was just wondering |
| 00:37.23 | geo-rge | tp76: no problem... so use openbsd 4.0 and be happy... |
| 00:37.25 | tp76 | ICH8 doesn't have a PATA controller, hence JMIcron. |
| 00:37.43 | infernix | tp76: oh right.. debian cd needs to be readable :) use an USB stick |
| 00:37.53 | geo-rge | and research support issues before buying -expensive- and new hardware |
| 00:37.54 | infernix | tp76: or PXEboot :) |
| 00:38.43 | tp76 | About "not wasting time". How about simply getting the latest etch netinst and be done with it? ;-) |
| 00:38.45 | geo-rge | that wouldn't solve the sata problem tho |
| 00:39.08 | geo-rge | not unless what you're pxebooting has support for his chipset |
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| 00:40.08 | geo-rge | tp76: maybe tho, at the time when you were first trying the install, that netinst didn't exist yet? |
| 00:40.32 | lotus-blade | hi |
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| 00:40.45 | tp76 | geo-rge: being built daily, I doubt that. |
| 00:40.48 | lotus-blade | just testing to se if it let me talk |
| 00:41.03 | geo-rge | when did you start trying? |
| 00:41.14 | tp76 | A couple of weeks ago. What does it matter? |
| 00:41.27 | geo-rge | did the new installer exist then? |
| 00:41.58 | geo-rge | I'm pretty sure a 2.6.18-based one did exist |
| 00:42.02 | tp76 | "new"? It's a new one each day. |
| 00:42.28 | geo-rge | oh, I see... so TODAY's installer was the one that worked |
| 00:42.42 | tp76 | Yes, it probably did but nobody cared to mention it to me. Instead I was recommended USB stick booting and all sorts of time-wasting crap. Read my OP again ;-) |
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| 00:43.39 | geo-rge | well, you ended up using the choice that matched your skill level... |
| 00:43.47 | geo-rge | "download" |
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| 00:44.15 | TTT_Travis | need wget help |
| 00:44.21 | TTT_Travis | I enter |
| 00:44.22 | TTT_Travis | http://www.whitepages.com/10867/search/FindPerson/?&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=john&name_begins_with=1&name=doe&state_id=WI |
| 00:44.25 | TTT_Travis | wget only gets |
| 00:44.28 | TTT_Travis | http://www.whitepages.com/10867/search/FindPerson/ |
| 00:44.32 | tp76 | Yeah, I'm sure that conclusion satisfies you. |
| 00:44.34 | rfrank | what pkg is aclocal in |
| 00:44.46 | geo-rge | automake or autotools |
| 00:44.49 | Caelum | TTT_Travis: put the url in single quotes |
| 00:44.57 | TTT_Travis | k |
| 00:44.58 | lotus-blade | is there an easy to read and understand doc out there that tells you how to install and get apache and proftpd to work |
| 00:45.10 | Caelum | how do you make find not print anything? |
| 00:45.18 | Caelum | aside from redirecting to /dev/null |
| 00:45.27 | tp76 | centrx: 2>&1 perhaps. |
| 00:45.30 | geo-rge | lotus-blade: if you're running debian just install the required packages |
| 00:45.34 | tp76 | Er, Caelum. |
| 00:45.53 | geo-rge | the server will try to start immediately, and arrangement made to start every boot |
| 00:45.57 | TTT_Travis | Caelum that still doesn't work |
| 00:45.58 | Caelum | it doesn't seem to have a quiet option like grep does |
| 00:46.20 | tvynr | Caelum: I think you just redirect to /dev/null. Is there a reason you can't? |
| 00:46.31 | lotus-blade | now here is anouther stupid question: my /dev/dsp is missing for my sound card. any ideas how to get it back? |
| 00:46.38 | funbags | hey guys, that kernel oops i got, is it possible its a bad HD? I just rebooted and i noticed my HD didnt show up in the bios, then rebooted again and the hd showed up. - this oops - > http://channels.debian.net/paste/5539 |
| 00:46.54 | Caelum | lotus-blade: do you have the alsa modules loaded? |
| 00:47.25 | lotus-blade | they were before I upgraded to etch |
| 00:47.29 | geo-rge | lotus-blade: other than that, it depends what you are trying to do... if some custom stuff, you might have to read more stuff, and also in the process come to understand how to read, understand and use more technical docs |
| 00:47.30 | Caelum | TTT_Travis: it doesn't allow wget, change the user agent |
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| 00:47.48 | TTT_Travis | Caelum ok, I actually want to use Curl instead |
| 00:47.54 | TTT_Travis | is there a way to do that? |
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| 00:48.22 | Caelum | TTT_Travis: wget -U "mozilla" 'http://www.whitepages.com/10867/search/FindPerson/?&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=john&name_begins_with=1&name=doe&state_id=WI' |
| 00:48.47 | Caelum | TTT_Travis: -A in curl |
| 00:48.59 | TTT_Travis | k |
| 00:49.03 | TTT_Travis | thanks |
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| 00:56.00 | claudio_ | 'night |
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| 01:05.23 | colera | what repository do i have to add to get mplayer? |
| 01:05.32 | pablo_ | hi |
| 01:05.33 | pablo_ | debian:/home/pablo# apt-get --purge remove gmail* |
| 01:05.34 | pablo_ | Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho |
| 01:05.35 | pablo_ | ViolaciĆ³n de segmentondencias... 50% |
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| 01:06.04 | sid | WHat is a good application to read .tex files? |
| 01:06.08 | sid | gui/gnome if possible |
| 01:06.27 | pablo_ | gedit |
| 01:06.33 | Zao | sid: run them through LaTeX and view the resulting dvi file with xdvi |
| 01:06.39 | geo-rge | pablo_: /msg dpkg paste /msg dpkg es |
| 01:07.00 | geo-rge | sid: tes |
| 01:07.02 | geo-rge | x |
| 01:07.46 | geo-rge | right you could try latex too... not many torture themselves by writing plain tex |
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| 01:08.15 | geo-rge | nice output either way and all... but latex is hard enough as it is |
| 01:08.19 | abrotman | sid: apt-cache search gnome tex |
| 01:08.22 | pablo_ | apt-get --purge remove gmail-notify is giving me an error |
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| 01:10.06 | geo-rge | (I don't know anything about gmail-notify but) for the benefit of people who will help you, pablo_ , could you translate the message you get |
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| 01:11.32 | pablo_ | geo-rge: it says violation of segmentation combined with dependencies (violation of segmendependecies) |
| 01:12.03 | colera | what repository do i have to add to get mplayer? |
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| 01:13.16 | Ronin | !mplayer |
| 01:13.16 | dpkg | mplayer is, like, in Debian testing and unstable. See README.Debian in the Debian package for details. You may want to use a player based on xine-lib or vlc instead. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. The Debian and mplayer FAQ is at http://people.debian.org/~mjr/mplayer.html |
| 01:13.41 | pablo_ | colera: if you are in testing/unstable just use official repos |
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| 01:16.10 | colera | pablo_: i kond of want stable |
| 01:16.36 | colera | pablo_: do you know a good repo to get stable versions of mplayer? |
| 01:16.53 | geo-rge | !marillat |
| 01:16.54 | dpkg | from memory, debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <debian-multimedia.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 01:17.08 | pablo_ | colera: |
| 01:17.11 | pablo_ | http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 01:17.19 | pablo_ | colera: if not compile it |
| 01:17.30 | geo-rge | what dist are you running now? (cat /etc/debian_version) |
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| 01:17.41 | archville | frontend for dosbox on debian (gnome would be better) ? |
| 01:17.42 | colera | sarge |
| 01:17.55 | geo-rge | just got back from downtown, uptownben? |
| 01:18.23 | uptownben | Flimzy: found some problems in your "Quick Install" |
| 01:18.28 | geo-rge | dosbox and gnome have very little to do with each other... |
| 01:18.38 | Decepticon | how do i start the tor service |
| 01:18.42 | Decepticon | in debian sarge |
| 01:18.44 | funbags | infernix: looks like bad mem, 900000 errors in like 20 min |
| 01:18.49 | kingsley | Can apt-get install a local copy of a package, yet download its dependencies? |
| 01:18.53 | geo-rge | is there a package for tor |
| 01:19.10 | geo-rge | usually packages with services will start the service |
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| 01:19.30 | Decepticon | i turned it off so im wondering how to turn it back on |
| 01:19.32 | Decepticon | :/ |
| 01:19.33 | geo-rge | if you build it yourself, you have to come up with a way |
| 01:19.42 | geo-rge | how did you turn it off? |
| 01:19.54 | archville | geo-rge, i know, i was looking for something like d-fend for linux |
| 01:19.56 | uptownben | Flimzy: the tar package contains everything under(and including) your /mnt |
| 01:20.12 | Decepticon | i must have used rcconf to turn it off |
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| 01:20.25 | Decepticon | i guess i can use it to turn it back on |
| 01:20.28 | geo-rge | !find rcconf |
| 01:21.58 | archville | well, found a frontend, uses qt, but will do |
| 01:22.40 | geo-rge | I wrote a little thing that lets me create small shell scripts that start a dos prog using dosbox |
| 01:22.56 | geo-rge | not much of a front end but it does what I want :) |
| 01:23.02 | Decepticon | so ive changed some things in etc/rc*.d/ such that they are no longer K****, they are S*** so how do tell debian to start those ones that ive just changed to S*** |
| 01:23.07 | archville | nice :) |
| 01:23.49 | geo-rge | makes it so I can type morse-academy to start that under linux |
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| 01:25.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rcconf' (3): (/usr/bin/rcconf, /usr/sbin/update-rcconf-guide) in admin/rcconf ;; (/usr/share/doc/dahb-html/html/bilder/admin/rcconf.png) in non-free/doc/dahb-html ;; (/usr/share/hercules/hercconf.html, /usr/share/doc/hercules/html/hercconf.html) in otherosfs/hercules. |
| 01:25.51 | jahshua | hey whats the command to list all installed packages on my system? |
| 01:25.56 | jahshua | dpkg something .. |
| 01:26.00 | jahshua | cant remember. :/ |
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| 01:26.18 | Decepticon | dpkg -l * ? |
| 01:26.18 | dpkg | ii * 3.6-14 decepticon's private porn collection |
| 01:26.43 | colera | does the mplayer mozilla plugin work on firefox? |
| 01:26.49 | archville | Mmmm, this: http://static.flickr.com/29/97234441_1580bdaa1e_o.jpg seems good. :) |
| 01:26.50 | Decepticon | its just dpkg -l |
| 01:27.09 | jahshua | yeh |
| 01:27.10 | jahshua | thanks. |
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| 01:29.17 | abrotman | hey .. it's a logging bot! |
| 01:29.45 | jahshua | heha |
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| 01:30.09 | amphi | !adore the cabbage |
| 01:30.11 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: is there any kind of policy on logging bots ? |
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| 01:31.39 | DaveyB | How do I force a program to quit? |
| 01:31.48 | wols | kill -9 |
| 01:31.49 | wols | man kill |
| 01:31.57 | jayeola | hey chaps. about to perform a remote installation debian. is this guide up to date? I note the rerences to lilo:- http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html#see_als |
| 01:32.15 | DaveyB | wols, I know how to use kill but I can't find the application running in ps |
| 01:32.30 | colera | what is the easiest way to get audio working in debian? i started new install. you know that like 120 mb install, then you choose your own packages |
| 01:32.47 | DaveyB | wols, do forgot the -e flag |
| 01:32.51 | jahshua | DaveyB try killall. |
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| 01:33.05 | colera | should i use alsa? |
| 01:33.14 | jahshua | colera, install the desktop environment. |
| 01:33.25 | jahshua | it should set it up for you. |
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| 01:33.38 | colera | jahshua: i am using fluxbox |
| 01:33.43 | jahshua | yes. |
| 01:33.48 | jahshua | then install aumix. |
| 01:34.03 | jahshua | i thought you were 'starting a new install'. |
| 01:34.18 | colera | well i guess i am in the middle of a new install |
| 01:34.20 | colera | : ) |
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| 01:34.36 | colera | because i already have almost everything running |
| 01:34.46 | jahshua | if you are using fluxbox with it i would assume you are done. |
| 01:34.53 | uptownben | Hey all, question: I just finished installing Flimzy's Debian on USB, the system boots then says its mounting the root filesystem then come up with a BusyBox v1.1.3 Built-in shell message , does this mean it didnt find the root filesystem? |
| 01:35.03 | peteweez | I know that it'd probably be best just to RTFM, but I tried...My configuration just looks a bit different from some of the examples. How do I configure exim4 to analyse the sender address on outgoing mail and route it to different smarthosts based on the sender address? Each smarthost requires authentication. |
| 01:35.25 | colera | jahshua: well there isn't any sound yet |
| 01:35.34 | jahshua | oh |
| 01:35.55 | jahshua | you may have issues then, not sure what you should do. |
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| 01:36.23 | colera | hmm i installed aumix, still no sound, should the sound drivers be in my kernel? i used 2.6 |
| 01:36.41 | jahshua | they should be, yes. |
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| 01:37.03 | jahshua | what version are you using? |
| 01:37.10 | jahshua | of Debian .. |
| 01:37.14 | colera | 3.1 |
| 01:37.16 | colera | sarge |
| 01:37.27 | Guerin | colera: /msg dpkg sound |
| 01:38.09 | jayeola | does he need alsautils? |
| 01:38.18 | Smoked1_ | I am moving some sites from a freebsd web server to a debian web server. What is the best way to do this? I am thinking of using tar and then scp the tarball to the new server but rsync looks like it might be better. What do you guys think? |
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| 01:40.50 | tp76 | Smoked1_: if you've got no files on the new server from the old one, rsync won't be of much help. |
| 01:41.51 | Smoked1_ | tp76: Thanks I have never used rsync |
| 01:41.51 | Smoked1_ | So tar and then scp do ya think? |
| 01:41.52 | squisher | Smoked1_: or just tar and pipe through ssh |
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| 01:42.23 | Smoked1_ | squisher: could you give me an example? I have never piped through ssh before |
| 01:42.33 | car_watt | hi people I leave my jobs but I need to destroyer my hard disk some command for that |
| 01:42.33 | geo-rge | tar produces a stream... which can be put in a file, yes... but can also be sent over a line connected to a different machine which runs tar x |
| 01:42.40 | tp76 | What do you want to transfer, exactly? |
| 01:42.47 | squisher | tar cvf - your-director | ssh user@host tar xf - |
| 01:43.02 | squisher | use appropriate tar flags (tar --help) |
| 01:43.16 | car_watt | tar cvf - your-director | ssh user@host tar xf -?? |
| 01:43.22 | car_watt | with this command |
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| 01:43.44 | squisher | car_watt: search with apt-cache search, I'm sure there's a number of such 'wiper' programs packaged |
| 01:44.03 | car_watt | tks squisher |
| 01:44.12 | Smoked1_ | OK cool. The boxes are in tha same DC so it should go pretty quick |
| 01:44.29 | geo-rge | !info pdfjam |
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| 01:46.00 | dpkg | pdfjam: (collection of PDF document handling utilities), section text, is optional. Version: 1.20-2 (sid), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 01:46.23 | geo-rge | !info pdfjam etch |
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| 01:46.58 | Smoked1_ | I heard etch is going stable in a couple of weeks. Is that true? |
| 01:47.18 | EdLin | Smoked1_: /topic |
| 01:47.22 | geo-rge | maybe |
| 01:47.23 | geo-rge | maybe not |
| 01:47.24 | Smoked1_ | sorry |
| 01:47.39 | dvs | EdLin: no, it's /topicsmite ;-) |
| 01:47.48 | geo-rge | who did you hear it from |
| 01:47.52 | EdLin | !topicsmite Smoked1_ |
| 01:47.53 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Smoked1_. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:47.58 | EdLin | :-) |
| 01:48.00 | dpkg | pdfjam: (collection of PDF document handling utilities), section text, is optional. Version: 1.20-2 (etch), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 01:48.00 | geo-rge | debian project leader? |
| 01:48.03 | dvs | heh |
| 01:48.12 | Smoked1_ | HA! |
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| 01:48.34 | Smoked1_ | i read it on a dedicated server companies forums |
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| 01:49.16 | EdLin | Smoked1_: Etch RC2 is close, probably. |
| 01:49.21 | tp76 | Smoked1_: I'd not bother. Debian 4.0 will be released when it's done. Makes me wonder why they even bother setting a dealine *shrugs* |
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| 01:49.57 | squisher | tp76: without a deadline they'd never be done, because software always changes and improves... |
| 01:50.02 | dvs | tp76: it's called (bad) goal setting |
| 01:50.09 | john64 | can someone explain to me what a .d directory is? or even tell me where to find documentation on them? |
| 01:50.16 | tp76 | If they're not going to satisfy the deadline they've set, then don't set one. |
| 01:50.21 | Smoked1_ | i still think debian is the best server os on the planet |
| 01:50.23 | abrotman | john64: where would you find it ? |
| 01:50.35 | dvs | !beer Smoked1_ |
| 01:50.39 | Smoked1_ | I used to think that freebsd was but I have changed my mind |
| 01:50.45 | john64 | abortman: they are all over the place, like /etc/init.d/ |
| 01:50.52 | archville | Hell, Smoked1_ Āæ you tried all oses on the planet ? ;) |
| 01:51.01 | Smoked1_ | yes I have |
| 01:51.03 | EdLin | john64: why does that need to be documented? |
| 01:51.05 | Smoked1_ | Took forever |
| 01:51.09 | dvs | S390 rulez!!! |
| 01:51.12 | john64 | i just want to know what they are |
| 01:51.14 | abrotman | EdLin: i think he wants to know why the .d is appended |
| 01:51.23 | rpc | do i need SMT support in kernel for AMD64? |
| 01:51.27 | EdLin | john64: .d directories usually have scripts, this ain't MS-DOS where the extention is metadata. |
| 01:51.35 | rpc | aka hypethreading |
| 01:51.37 | john64 | i know that much |
| 01:51.43 | rpc | hyper* |
| 01:51.50 | dvs | rpc: you don't have to but it's a good idea |
| 01:51.54 | phogg | john64: they're nothing special. It's just a naming convention |
| 01:52.02 | EdLin | john64: I don't see why that needs a whole document to explain that. |
| 01:52.18 | john64 | what about the ones where it doesn't just have scripts |
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| 01:52.32 | phogg | john64: .d directories contain files which will be read, executed or invoked together upon some kind of event. Usually. |
| 01:52.40 | EdLin | john64: OK, new definition. .d directories have scripts, except when they don't. Happy? |
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| 01:53.13 | Smoked1_ | Does anyone know if the new DST settings in the US have an effect on debian? I know that I have to patch all of my windows servers but have not researched it on linux yet. |
| 01:53.36 | john64 | edlin, i bow down to your technical prowess, but if you wouldn't mind, i am asking legitimate questions, not because i want to waste your time, but because i would like to learn more |
| 01:53.37 | abrotman | Smoked1_: should be fine |
| 01:53.56 | Smoked1_ | Thanks |
| 01:54.08 | squisher | john64: there is not a specific document regarding that, because it is only a convention. |
| 01:54.11 | phogg | john64: there's nothing special about .d directories, there is no convention for what goes in them in general. |
| 01:54.13 | abrotman | john64: might be documented in the LHS docs |
| 01:54.16 | GMouse | I'm getting "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt" on my server after it runs for a time. I copied down what I could from the screen, but don't know where to go from this. |
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| 01:54.24 | john64 | ok, so it is just something a lot of applications happen to use |
| 01:54.28 | EdLin | john64: .d directories usually contain an excessive amount of scripts, in my experience. Of course, I run file-rc. :-) |
| 01:54.35 | phogg | john64: and they use it for different things |
| 01:54.37 | colera | okay, i got sound working on root, but the other users still don't hav eit |
| 01:54.39 | john64 | what is file-rc? |
| 01:55.56 | EdLin | !file-rc |
| 01:55.56 | dpkg | methinks file-rc is an alternative startup mechanism for Debian which uses a single configuration file instead of a mess of symlinks. Very cool; check it out: apt-get install file-rc. |
| 01:55.56 | dvs | colera: add those users to the audio group |
| 01:55.56 | Smoked1_ | between mr. bush and mr. gates I am going to have a bust week starting monday |
| 01:55.56 | colera | i went into /etc/group and added th users to the audio group |
| 01:55.57 | colera | but nothing happened |
| 01:55.57 | john64 | is that similar to upstart in anyway? |
| 01:55.57 | dvs | colera: log out and back in again |
| 01:55.57 | uptownben | debootstrap etch gives me an error: no such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/etch how do I resolve that? |
| 01:55.57 | john64 | !upstart |
| 01:55.58 | john64 | or init? |
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| 01:55.59 | GMouse | Does anyone know what could be causing the panic? |
| 01:56.24 | geo-rge | people are worried about the asteroid... |
| 01:56.33 | xerophyte_ | did the ip_conntrack_ftp modules name change to nf_conntrack_ftp? in the new kernels ? |
| 01:56.33 | phogg | hm. file-rc sounds very bsdish. |
| 01:56.44 | colera | dvs: yeah, still nothing |
| 01:56.52 | EdLin | john64: upstart is not file-rc |
| 01:57.00 | mue | my usb wlan stick is properly configured, wpa viawpa_supplicant works, but "ifup eth1" gives "ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1" |
| 01:57.03 | colera | dvs: is it just adding the name onto the end of the string for the audio group in /etc/groups |
| 01:57.06 | EdLin | phogg: not exactly, but its a bit of the same idea. |
| 01:57.11 | phogg | GMouse: most kernel panics are hardware issues, in my experience |
| 01:57.25 | john64 | what exactly is init, is that similar to file-rc? |
| 01:57.26 | wols | dvs: what for? SMT on athlon I mean? |
| 01:57.49 | john64 | an example of the directories i am talking about is /etc/udev.d/ |
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| 01:57.54 | phogg | EdLin: It gives me ammunition in the "but Debian is better" debate I have gooing with a freebsd fan. |
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| 01:57.56 | EdLin | john64: there are several kinds of init. The default, in Debian and many other GNU/Linux distributions, is SysV. |
| 01:57.57 | GMouse | phogg: In that case, I need to figure out which particular component is cauing the issues. |
| 01:58.10 | john64 | what does sysvinit actually do? |
| 01:58.15 | wols | john64: all it means are: .d directories are not config files but directories of config files |
| 01:58.29 | EdLin | john64: file-rc is an alternative one, I suggest you figure out what the default does before you try new ones that most people can't support. |
| 01:58.43 | dan2 | how do I configure printers for openoffice? |
| 01:58.43 | EdLin | john64: start services |
| 01:58.46 | wols | often when the ??xyz syntax is used where ?? are numbers you can influence the sequence how they are applied |
| 01:58.47 | john64 | i konw they are directories, but i am wondering how they are structured, why they are the way they are, |
| 01:58.50 | EdLin | john64: and stop, restart, etc. |
| 01:58.54 | GMouse | dan2: Do you have CUPS set up? |
| 01:58.58 | dan2 | ya |
| 01:59.07 | wols | cause it's a conventient want to group lots of little config files |
| 01:59.11 | john64 | edlin: what starts init, what ends init? |
| 01:59.13 | GMouse | dan2: Setup a printer through CUPS? |
| 01:59.14 | phogg | john64: after the kernel loads into memory it executes a program which is responsible for starting anything and everything else that runs on the system. Traditionally this program is /sbin/init. Its PID is 1, because it's the first task. |
| 01:59.19 | wols | john64: your kernel starts init |
| 01:59.40 | Smoked1_ | I will be installing debian on a dell Poweredge 4600 next week. Does anyone know if this install goes well? |
| 01:59.45 | john64 | ok, so if i were to su -c kill -9 1 i would essentially shut down my computer? |
| 01:59.48 | colera | how do i add someone to the audio group? |
| 01:59.48 | mue | my usb wlan stick is properly configured, wpa via wpa_supplicant works, but "ifup eth1" gives "ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1" |
| 01:59.51 | EdLin | john64: no |
| 01:59.55 | EdLin | john64: you'd crash it. |
| 02:00.07 | EdLin | john64: abrubtly |
| 02:00.08 | wols | mue: you need a driver for your WLAN card |
| 02:00.15 | EdLin | bbiab |
| 02:00.21 | wols | mue: and see what dpkg tells you about !repeat |
| 02:00.23 | john64 | hmm, that doesn't sound good. |
| 02:00.23 | dan2 | john64: if you want to shut down your machine, sudo halt |
| 02:00.46 | john64 | yep, i am speaking hypothectically :D |
| 02:00.49 | dan2 | GMouse: of course |
| 02:00.51 | mue | wols: as is said it's properly configured |
| 02:00.51 | geo-rge | john64: shouldn't do that to yourself |
| 02:01.09 | mue | wpawouldn't work otherwise |
| 02:01.16 | john64 | i am trying to figure out how the linux system works, so i have multiple qemu images |
| 02:01.27 | phogg | john64: rcN.d directories contain scripts which execute when you enter a runlevel (S*) and leave that runlevel (K*). In debian these are all symlinks to scripts in /etc/init.d/ |
| 02:01.32 | wols | if ifup is complaining it doesn't seem like it. is there a eth1 if you do "ifconfig -a"? |
| 02:01.34 | geo-rge | mue: autotimedrepeat |
| 02:01.35 | geo-rge | ? |
| 02:01.35 | GMouse | dan2: Do you have anything else installed that you could print from? If so, is your printer accessible from those? |
| 02:01.49 | dan2 | GMouse: I suppose I forgot to restart openoffice since I setup my printer |
| 02:01.52 | dan2 | restarting it did the trick |
| 02:01.59 | GMouse | dan2: Spiff. |
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| 02:02.19 | geo-rge | !find pdfmerge |
| 02:02.29 | john64 | so if i want to stop a service from starting automatically, how would i go about doing that? |
| 02:02.31 | abrotman | pdktk ? |
| 02:02.33 | abrotman | pdftk |
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| 02:02.51 | dan2 | abrotman: hey |
| 02:02.53 | geo-rge | is it handy? |
| 02:02.53 | wols | john64: remove its S??daemon from your runlevel directory, usually /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 02:02.54 | abrotman | hi |
| 02:03.00 | dan2 | abrotman: you sound grumpy |
| 02:03.05 | abrotman | i am ? |
| 02:03.06 | phogg | john64: remove the symlink from the runlevel that yoiu normally boot to. The command update-rc.d is available to help you manage the symlinks, so you don't need to do it manually. |
| 02:03.11 | wols | he's an old fart, he's always grumpy |
| 02:03.14 | wols | hi gramps! |
| 02:03.16 | abrotman | hi |
| 02:03.40 | GMouse | Is update-rc.d similar to gentoo's rc-update? |
| 02:03.48 | Guerin | GMouse: rtfm |
| 02:04.05 | Guerin | it's ambitious to think any of us know/care much about gentoo |
| 02:04.07 | phogg | only way to know that is to have used both |
| 02:04.37 | GMouse | Guerin: My debian box is dead ATM, so I can't man it. |
| 02:04.37 | geo-rge | probably... to see whta update-rc.d does, man update-rc.d |
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| 02:04.37 | Guerin | GMouse: manpages are all over TFW |
| 02:04.37 | GMouse | else I would be doing that this very moment |
| 02:04.37 | geo-rge | ambitious... yeah that does describe the situation :) |
| 02:04.37 | duderdo | Hello... |
| 02:04.37 | mue | geo-rge, what about autotimedrepeat? |
| 02:04.38 | phogg | GMouse: it's not as if google wont turn up the man page if you ask |
| 02:04.45 | GMouse | phogg: Good point. |
| 02:04.54 | geo-rge | mue: you do it when you ask questions? |
| 02:04.58 | wols | mue: can you answer the question? |
| 02:05.04 | duderdo | I'm trying to apt-get install a couple things and it's asking me for the CD. I just want to fetch from the net. How can I get it to stop asking me for the CD? |
| 02:05.29 | wols | duderdo: check your sources.list for CD entries |
| 02:05.30 | wols | remove them |
| 02:05.31 | GMouse | duderdo: You'll need to edit your sources.list file to remove the CD as a repository |
| 02:05.31 | phogg | duderdo: comment the cd source(s) out in sources.list |
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| 02:05.39 | duderdo | gah... stupid me. Thanks guys. |
| 02:05.45 | mue | o.0 |
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| 02:05.51 | dan2 | abrotman: how old are you now? |
| 02:05.58 | geo-rge | either way... consider the bandwidth consequences of repeating anything with 700 people on |
| 02:06.00 | gravity | he's OOOOOOOLD |
| 02:06.06 | geo-rge | G |
| 02:06.10 | abrotman | dan2: 30 |
| 02:06.19 | mue | i mean, it's a a known but which can be easily fixed |
| 02:06.22 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'pdfmerge' returned no results. |
| 02:06.29 | wols | dan2: see? practically ancient and ossified |
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| 02:06.44 | geo-rge | ossification shuffle |
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| 02:06.47 | dan2 | abrotman: you're a little more than half way to 50 |
| 02:06.57 | abrotman | thanks math whiz |
| 02:07.11 | phogg | geo-rge: stand in place and don't move? |
| 02:07.16 | wols | anow now you made abrotman depressed |
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| 02:07.40 | geo-rge | phogg: also what I like to call wallflower syndrome |
| 02:08.05 | abrotman | doesn't bother me ... |
| 02:08.23 | phogg | you're more than half way to 50! 50 is pretty close to 70! The average person is dead by 75! You're life is practically over! |
| 02:08.53 | geo-rge | You're speling is practically over too :) |
| 02:09.04 | dan2 | abrotman: "The Police" are coming to philly |
| 02:09.14 | dan2 | abrotman: tickets go on sale at 10am on saturday @ comcasttix.com |
| 02:09.15 | geo-rge | better run then |
| 02:09.18 | abrotman | dan2: dude .. you were 2 when they broke up |
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| 02:09.30 | dan2 | abrotman: hmm |
| 02:09.33 | dan2 | more like -7 |
| 02:09.37 | gravity | Good luck getting them |
| 02:09.44 | abrotman | wait .. |
| 02:09.44 | geo-rge | dan2: if you're not in line by 9am you won't be getting tix |
| 02:09.46 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 02:09.50 | abrotman | 9am? |
| 02:09.55 | dan2 | abrotman: 10am |
| 02:09.56 | abrotman | you mean 9am friday right ? |
| 02:09.57 | john64 | i hear they aren't very good at this tour |
| 02:10.20 | dan2 | abrotman: no |
| 02:10.24 | geo-rge | well how did they sound at the grammys |
| 02:10.26 | dan2 | abrotman: I mean 10 am saturday morning |
| 02:10.28 | dan2 | geo-rge: good |
| 02:10.50 | Guerin | bah, i do decalre |
| 02:10.53 | abrotman | dan2: no shit .. get in line 9am friday |
| 02:11.04 | dan2 | abrotman: it's not sold outside knucklehead |
| 02:11.07 | geo-rge | when mccartney came around the arrangements were dead on exact |
| 02:11.08 | asg | abrotman: are the beegees playing in philly? |
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| 02:11.09 | Guerin | the only good thing to come out of Bob Dylan's christian phase was `man gave names to all the animals' |
| 02:11.10 | dan2 | abrotman: only ONLINE @ COMCASTTIX.COM |
| 02:11.21 | abrotman | get in line now! |
| 02:11.28 | geo-rge | and with the drummer they used instead of ringo, it sounded very good |
| 02:11.47 | geo-rge | except for the overuse of subwoofers on the kick and the beatlebass |
| 02:11.49 | usr_rob | anyone who's good on ssl with proftpd ? |
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| 02:12.25 | dan2 | abrotman: you want a ticket? |
| 02:12.29 | geo-rge | !ask |
| 02:12.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:12.35 | abrotman | dan2: i was alive the first time .. that was bad enough |
| 02:12.58 | geo-rge | usr_rob: fill in the blanks... someone could be with you shortly |
| 02:13.10 | dan2 | !communist abrotman |
| 02:13.15 | dan2 | ~lart abrotman |
| 02:13.16 | abrotman | dan2: what is the song "Every breath you take" about ? |
| 02:13.16 | geo-rge | lather rinse repeat blah yadda |
| 02:13.20 | dan2 | abrotman: stalker |
| 02:13.38 | usr_rob | I can connect from a local computer but not external, yes my firewall has port 990 open |
| 02:13.43 | abrotman | no .. i don't want to go |
| 02:13.51 | geo-rge | abrotman: oxygen? |
| 02:14.10 | usr_rob | AUTH TLS 500 AUTH not understood |
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| 02:14.20 | abrotman | geo-rge: i can live without it! |
| 02:14.34 | dvs | abrotman: alien! |
| 02:14.58 | usr_rob | from o local computer; AUTH TLS 234 AUTH TLS successful |
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| 02:15.17 | geo-rge | so you're brick-based? inanimate but still a bit annoying when you fall? :) |
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| 02:15.38 | asg | geo-rge: he's cake-based, not brick-based |
| 02:15.46 | dan2 | asg! |
| 02:15.49 | jdhoreotg | how do you check your disk space via terminal? |
| 02:15.49 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 02:15.55 | asg | jdhoreotg: df |
| 02:16.00 | jdhoreotg | ty |
| 02:16.02 | jdhoreotg | forgot |
| 02:16.03 | dan2 | asg: abrotman is turning down the oppertunity to go to "The Police" reunion tour |
| 02:16.15 | geo-rge | I'm not |
| 02:16.20 | Guerin | i would |
| 02:16.21 | geo-rge | they're coming here 6/13 |
| 02:16.25 | asg | dan2: I would too; It's a scam |
| 02:16.26 | Guerin | fuck the police! |
| 02:16.27 | dvs | dan2: that's nuts! |
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| 02:16.32 | dvs | I'd go |
| 02:16.35 | dan2 | asg: scam? |
| 02:16.35 | usr_rob | [ 3m30s] (authenticating) , it just tries to "auth" , nothing happens .. |
| 02:16.39 | abrotman | dan2: i realize you're 15 .. but at least act like you have some taste in music |
| 02:16.40 | geo-rge | Guerin: you could ask them... |
| 02:16.42 | dvs | Guerin: that's Ice-T . ;-) |
| 02:16.56 | Guerin | dvs: coincidence |
| 02:16.58 | asg | dan2: they will do a couple of crappy shows and make a dvd. |
| 02:17.06 | geo-rge | or listen to gary willis and gain some taste in music :) |
| 02:17.17 | dan2 | asg: I bought my friend Don "The Eagles in Melbourne" |
| 02:17.23 | dan2 | asg: dvd of course. He loved it |
| 02:17.35 | geo-rge | walsh is a ham operator too |
| 02:18.01 | Guerin | CSNY i'd go and see ... but only with the Y |
| 02:18.09 | abrotman | i'd go see either of those |
| 02:18.14 | asg | dan2: besides, they won't play 'so lonely' so there's no point in going |
| 02:18.16 | geo-rge | usr_rob: do the server logs suggest the remote is trying to connect? |
| 02:18.26 | abrotman | asg: only the lonely ? |
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| 02:18.54 | Guerin | so ronery ... so rery ronery ... |
| 02:18.58 | dan2 | asg: did Billy Joel end up with dvds from his 2006 tour? |
| 02:19.16 | abrotman | the classical tour ? |
| 02:19.29 | asg | dan2: didn't know he did one .. was he in vegas? |
| 02:19.31 | eshaase | my laptop freezes from time to time, to the point where my mouse cursor in X doesn't respond, is there any way I can figure out what is causing these crashes? |
| 02:19.31 | geo-rge | IIIII know... it's only billy joel... but I like it.... |
| 02:19.32 | Guerin | gods, is this march of the one-hit wonders? |
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| 02:19.37 | dan2 | asg: he came to philly in 06 too |
| 02:19.52 | asg | Guerin: kajagoogoo |
| 02:20.03 | geo-rge | csny were not one hit wonders :) |
| 02:20.08 | Malf | eshaase: I was having that problem a few months back due to video driver issues |
| 02:20.14 | abrotman | Guerin: joel had more than one |
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| 02:20.43 | geo-rge | I'm guessing everything they played at woodstock was a hit |
| 02:20.47 | Guerin | abrotman: but most people only like piano man |
| 02:20.47 | usr_rob | geo-rge, i have just checked the "ftpwho" and it says that the client is trying to authenticating >> [ 2m58s] (authenticating) |
| 02:20.53 | gravity | eshaase: What video driver are you using? |
| 02:21.03 | karsten | eshaase: General troubleshooting methods. |
| 02:21.05 | dan2 | Billy Joel is awesome |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | Guerin: eh .. i can't hell you crazy kiwis |
| 02:21.08 | abrotman | help |
| 02:21.11 | abrotman | or dan2 |
| 02:21.13 | asg | Guerin: there's some good stuff on that album though |
| 02:21.33 | karsten | eshaase: check /var/log/messages, see if you're getting any oopses, any signs of HW issues (particularly sig11 errors). |
| 02:21.38 | geo-rge | usr_rob: so it's looking like the firewall is letting some stuff in |
| 02:21.40 | karsten | eshaase: video's a frequent culprit. |
| 02:21.48 | geo-rge | maybe all, but maybe not |
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| 02:22.09 | karsten | eshaase: Boot console-mode only and run repeated kernel builds at -j200 or so (should run massivly parallel builds, stress system, disk, memory). |
| 02:22.13 | Guerin | asg: you lie! |
| 02:22.18 | eshaase | gravity: i810 |
| 02:22.46 | gravity | eshaase: Hrm, normallly that's rock solid. It happens randomly, not when you've been using 3d apps? |
| 02:22.47 | karsten | ... but defers to gravity |
| 02:23.08 | usr_rob | geo-rge, yes, i have the right port open, i don't get it, the TLS works on lan thou |
| 02:23.09 | karsten | eshaase: Any crashes / reboots when you're away from the system? |
| 02:23.27 | abrotman | gravity: hey .. i get that goofy driver claims 0xd5 isn't supported thing and i have i810 :) |
| 02:23.33 | dan2 | asg: my favorite billy joel song is "Movin' Out" |
| 02:23.35 | geo-rge | usr_rob: would seem the firewall is the point of failure |
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| 02:23.47 | dan2 | asg: followed by "Captain Jack" |
| 02:23.52 | asg | Guerin: always was partial to Captin' Jack late at nite |
| 02:23.59 | geo-rge | maybe you have to open more ports, I dunno |
| 02:24.17 | gravity | abrotman: Did you file that as a bug? What's the #? |
| 02:24.21 | eshaase | karsten: ahah, kernel build test is an interesting one =) |
| 02:24.37 | abrotman | gravity: bug # or the actual visual that doesn't work ? |
| 02:24.37 | eshaase | gravity: it happens randomly yes |
| 02:24.40 | usr_rob | geo-rge, yeah, thx. i'll have to dig in to the iptables manually |
| 02:24.43 | gravity | abrotman: The bug |
| 02:24.46 | eshaase | gravity: no 3d apps for me |
| 02:24.53 | abrotman | gravity: i thought it was normal .. you know "i810 sucks blah blah blah" |
| 02:24.57 | gravity | eshaase: Well, you can try to disable DRI, although I'm not sure that'll help |
| 02:25.06 | abrotman | gravity: let me see if there is one already filed |
| 02:25.10 | gravity | eshaase: It may be something outside of X in this case, although usually it's X that's the culprit |
| 02:25.18 | eshaase | karsten: no crashes/reboots when i'm away from the system but i don't keep it on often while i'm away |
| 02:25.24 | abrotman | gravity: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b |
| 02:25.29 | gravity | abrotman: Oh that. |
| 02:25.34 | gravity | That's just a cosmetic error |
| 02:25.41 | abrotman | that's what i mean! |
| 02:26.05 | gravity | meh |
| 02:26.19 | gravity | Don't worry about that. I thought you meant that the driver wasn't supporting your card even though it should |
| 02:27.53 | abrotman | oh .. no that works :) |
| 02:28.14 | dan2 | abrotman: buy manlier graphics card like an nvidia |
| 02:28.33 | abrotman | and put up with thier closed drivers .. i'm not an idiot .. |
| 02:28.42 | dan2 | their closed drivers work fine |
| 02:28.48 | karsten | eshaase: I've had various random things cause lockouts at different points in time. 2.4.14 had a bad smbfs driver, I've had crap video, I've had bad capacitors (HW failure), ve had a dodgy mobo (pick up the laptop wrong and the system dies). |
| 02:28.55 | Malf | REAL men don't need drivers |
| 02:28.59 | karsten | eshaase: Also acpi, which is crap, and speedstep. |
| 02:29.08 | karsten | eshaase: So those are a few things you might look at. |
| 02:29.16 | eshaase | karsten: haha, great |
| 02:29.21 | eshaase | karsten: how did you troubleshoot thosee tho? |
| 02:29.44 | usr_rob | geo-rge, I guess that i only have to open 'tcp' , not 'udp' right? |
| 02:30.01 | karsten | eshaase: Painfully. |
| 02:31.22 | karsten | eshaase: Check logs. See if anything's getting noted. Try booting the system as minimally as possible. Note if any particular physical interaction with the system causes problems. The smbfs one literally took weeks (and I was the butt of jokes where I worked at the time, though it turned out to be a relatively good bug). |
| 02:32.00 | karsten | eshaase: Other than that: basically turn things off, stress the system, see if it breaks, if it does, sort out more about why. If not, try turning things back on again (daemons, modules, X, etc.), rinse, wash, repent. |
| 02:32.34 | abrotman | !repent |
| 02:32.38 | abrotman | oh well |
| 02:32.58 | eshaase | karsten: |
| 02:33.01 | eshaase | karsten: ok, thanks |
| 02:33.14 | eshaase | karsten: i guess i'll try to recreate the problem as much as i can |
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| 02:34.51 | karsten | eshaase: If you can get this to happen at console you should get more debug info. |
| 02:35.14 | eshaase | karsten: ok, you think my X log will be helpful? |
| 02:35.21 | karsten | eshaase: If you've got the option to run a serial logger or serial console you may also grab a few extra bits of information before the system locks hard. |
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| 02:35.36 | karsten | eshaase: *All* your logs are potentially useful. 'cd /var/log; ls -alt | head -30' |
| 02:35.46 | karsten | eshaase: ... look at the ones most recently modified. |
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| 02:38.31 | eshaase | karsten: ok, thanks again man |
| 02:39.05 | karsten | eshaase: NP |
| 02:40.22 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:42.41 | tarcisio | portgues |
| 02:43.08 | stew | !pt |
| 02:43.09 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 02:46.17 | gravity | wtf? |
| 02:46.27 | stew | Āæque? |
| 02:46.35 | gravity | That guy's signoff |
| 02:46.40 | stew | ahh |
| 02:47.28 | dvs | gravity: so he evolved and devolved? so what? |
| 02:47.35 | gravity | heh |
| 02:48.14 | stew | i wonder how reactos could be placed so promenantly even thought i've never heard of it |
| 02:48.25 | gravity | It's a cool project. |
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| 02:48.47 | archville | I've tried it, still a lot to progress to make it into the real thing |
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| 02:48.55 | dvs | stew: it isn't placed promenantly. It's less than a Mac |
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| 02:50.34 | stew | i found that to be prominant |
| 02:50.35 | abrotman | htf do you put slack above debian ... |
| 02:50.42 | gravity | archville: That's a shame, although not a surprise really |
| 02:50.56 | dvs | abrotman: he evolved then devolved. |
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| 02:52.27 | piper69 | hi all |
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| 02:57.14 | piper69 | can someone please help me to install either my Linksys WCP11 ver 4 or Netgear MA521. |
| 02:57.22 | archville | by the way i don't see the point in creating another "windows-os", even through it worked perfectly |
| 02:57.25 | concept10 | Is there not a place where packaged date or release date info of a application or library in .debs? |
| 02:57.46 | dondelelcaro | concept10: say again? |
| 02:57.56 | dondelelcaro | concept10: do you mean /usr/share/doc/<foopkg>/changelog.Debian.gz? |
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| 02:58.03 | Nwallins|home | Hi, after apt-get install linux-image-amd64-k8-smp, my kernel doesn't seem to have changed. this is a fresh etch amd64 netinst. is that linux-image package just a wrapper for the kernel on the netinst disk? |
| 02:58.04 | Ankman | i have wpc11 v.4 |
| 02:58.45 | Ankman | piper69: there's no official driver from linksys |
| 02:58.46 | piper69 | ankman help ME dude |
| 02:58.48 | concept10 | dondelelcaro, Im thinking there should be release date and packaged date info when I use apt-cache show |
| 02:58.50 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 02:58.57 | Ankman | i compiled a third party version |
| 02:59.00 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: yeah, the one I installed is the most appropriate |
| 02:59.10 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: cat /proc/version |
| 02:59.16 | dondelelcaro | concept10: there is if you hit C when using aptitude. |
| 02:59.32 | piper69 | Ankman: i am noobe so i don't know how to compile |
| 02:59.59 | Ankman | you need kernel headers and the source of the driver |
| 03:00.01 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: linux 2.6.18-4-amd64 |
| 03:00.03 | Ankman | i have the source |
| 03:00.11 | karsten | Ankman: Use the source! |
| 03:00.12 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: seems the right one to me |
| 03:00.13 | Nwallins|home | (notice, no k8 or smp) but cpu1 is recognized |
| 03:00.18 | Ankman | what kernel |
| 03:00.30 | Ankman | karsten: *LOL* |
| 03:00.34 | Ankman | what i also thougyht |
| 03:00.56 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: all the kernels in etch are SMP |
| 03:01.28 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: ok, that was what I was trying to ask: is the very specific kernel pkg just a pointer to the general? |
| 03:01.29 | piper69 | Ankman: what do you mean please |
| 03:01.56 | Ankman | piper69: i go to bed now, are you here tomorrow? in the meantime you need to install "kernel headers" |
| 03:01.56 | Guerin | Nwallins|home: no. |
| 03:02.02 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: the ones named like linux-image-2.6-k8 or so are metapckages .. the ones like linux-image-2.6.18-k8 are specific |
| 03:02.05 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: I've installed the pkg, but the kernel doesn't seem to have changed (e.g. grub does not ask me which kernel) |
| 03:02.16 | piper69 | how about Dlink DWL-650 |
| 03:02.23 | Ankman | no idea |
| 03:02.39 | piper69 | Ankman: cool man have a good night |
| 03:03.02 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: also, the download/installation of the pkg was very fast, with no questions |
| 03:03.07 | Ankman | laters |
| 03:03.11 | Nwallins|home | surprisingly fast |
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| 03:04.36 | abrotman | damn fast mirrors |
| 03:05.01 | piper69 | abrotman: will you help me please |
| 03:05.10 | jetscreamer | !help abrotman |
| 03:05.13 | geo-rge | abrotman: yeah yeah yeah,,, that's the one you suggested before, exactly what I wanted |
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| 03:05.25 | abrotman | geo-rge: ? |
| 03:05.26 | jetscreamer | ( |
| 03:05.29 | geo-rge | pdftk |
| 03:05.37 | abrotman | geo-rge: oh .. sorry .. a bit of latency :) |
| 03:05.39 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: is apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp all that is required to replace the kernel? |
| 03:05.43 | piper69 | or anyone please |
| 03:05.58 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 03:05.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:06.09 | jetscreamer | !question |
| 03:06.09 | dpkg | You don't need to prefix your questions with "Question:" or "I have a question:". See <ask>. |
| 03:06.28 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: that's a transition package |
| 03:06.32 | jetscreamer | !ask piper69 what his question is |
| 03:06.47 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 03:06.57 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: all you really need is linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 03:07.05 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: that's the metapackage |
| 03:07.18 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: the rest are transitional package |
| 03:07.19 | abrotman | s |
| 03:07.31 | piper69 | i have 3 PCMCIA cards and i am trying to get one to work with my laptop , debian 3.1 2.6-686 my cards are Netgear MA521 or Linksys wcp11 ver4 or D-link DWL-650 |
| 03:07.46 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=Linksys+WCP11&restrict=linux |
| 03:07.55 | abrotman | piper69: did you try #wireless ? |
| 03:08.04 | geo-rge | in fact if you say "I have a question" I'm sure someone will say "I have a hammer... don't make me chase you!" |
| 03:08.15 | Nwallins|home | transitional meaning, this is a stub we may fill in one day? |
| 03:08.19 | jetscreamer | !question geo-rge |
| 03:08.35 | abrotman | Nwallins|home: meaning .. it's not used anymore .. but it's there for upgrades from sarge |
| 03:08.37 | abrotman | roughly |
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| 03:08.43 | jetscreamer | means they're changing the name to something else but leaving the old one, sometimes |
| 03:08.56 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 03:09.07 | piper69 | abrotman: how is it a wireless when i cant get it to work |
| 03:09.11 | Nwallins|home | abrotman: ah, cool |
| 03:09.17 | piper69 | :) |
| 03:09.23 | abrotman | piper69: because they're wireless devices ? |
| 03:09.30 | piper69 | hahahahhahaha |
| 03:09.40 | piper69 | ok i will go and ask there |
| 03:09.46 | jetscreamer | because they don't have 2 wires |
| 03:09.56 | jetscreamer | you don't have to leave #debian btw |
| 03:10.22 | geo-rge | piper69: there's a lot of stuff that either has wires or doesn't that still doesn't work... |
| 03:10.22 | piper69 | jetscreamer: ok |
| 03:10.29 | abrotman | piper69: i can't believe not one of those three cards works in debian |
| 03:10.31 | jetscreamer | [21.05.20] <dpkg> no help on abrotman. |
| 03:10.42 | abrotman | jetscreamer: my parents said the same thing |
| 03:10.43 | karsten | jetscreamer: s/on/for/ |
| 03:10.48 | piper69 | none |
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| 03:11.05 | jetscreamer | karsten: i thought about taking some editorial liberties... |
| 03:11.08 | piper69 | i am pluged now thru ethernet from my router |
| 03:11.11 | ne78 | is there a way to ask ls to intepret the LS_COLORS environement case insensitively? to avoid defining everything twice |
| 03:12.03 | jetscreamer | twice? |
| 03:13.13 | ne78 | jetscreamer: yes *.MP3 *.mp3 *.png *.PNG |
| 03:13.26 | jetscreamer | oh hey.. how do i get my boot screen/console to be colorized (like kanotix or knoppix :o) you know, pwettie colurz |
| 03:13.36 | jetscreamer | culurz |
| 03:13.42 | jetscreamer | cuhlurz |
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| 03:14.06 | mue | my usb wlan stick is properly configured, wpa via wpa_supplicant works, but "ifup eth1" gives "ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1" |
| 03:14.14 | jetscreamer | ne78: run rename on the dir |
| 03:14.22 | jetscreamer | make em all lowercase |
| 03:14.26 | ne78 | jetscreamer: i have used colored ls since 1994 |
| 03:14.34 | karsten | ne78: Dunno. |
| 03:14.50 | jetscreamer | ne78: i like color also... what i'm saying is clean up the filenames :) |
| 03:14.54 | ne78 | jetscreamer: i need to deal with some external filesystems, auctually amiga file systems |
| 03:15.06 | ne78 | jetscreamer: they are case insenstive |
| 03:15.19 | jetscreamer | ah... btw mount has some options to make it all lowercase.. not sure about that fs though |
| 03:15.23 | jetscreamer | all i know |
| 03:15.50 | stoned | nuno |
| 03:16.02 | jetscreamer | nuh-noe |
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| 03:16.13 | stoned | no he is a guitarist and hes good |
| 03:16.19 | jetscreamer | o |
| 03:16.34 | jetscreamer | never heard of him but that means nothing |
| 03:16.51 | jetscreamer | after all, i know nothing |
| 03:16.58 | stoned | no one knows anything |
| 03:17.08 | jetscreamer | i was nothing! |
| 03:17.20 | jetscreamer | no wait... i was nothing |
| 03:17.24 | stoned | no you were something |
| 03:17.28 | jetscreamer | i was also ~ |
| 03:17.30 | stoned | and you are still something |
| 03:17.39 | abrotman | stoned: you still didn't move ? |
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| 03:17.54 | stoned | abrotman: I'm in the middle of it |
| 03:17.55 | jetscreamer | no, i've never been something... atm i'm tehgueyofak a lot |
| 03:18.08 | abrotman | stoned: it's the 1st |
| 03:18.12 | jetscreamer | *.whore too |
| 03:18.13 | stoned | i know |
| 03:18.14 | abrotman | pay you rent! |
| 03:18.17 | stoned | nope |
| 03:18.23 | stoned | I think move out this weekend |
| 03:18.24 | stoned | i dunno |
| 03:18.59 | jetscreamer | it's dumb to dump the gravy job just because you can't be assed to pass a ua... no offense |
| 03:19.12 | concept10 | does gnome on debian depend on meta packages like ubuntu? |
| 03:19.27 | jetscreamer | concept10: where do you think ubuntu gets it's packages? |
| 03:19.28 | stoned | jetscreamer: I pass with flying colors |
| 03:19.30 | jetscreamer | hint hint |
| 03:19.36 | jetscreamer | /topic |
| 03:19.50 | jetscreamer | concept10: that means yes |
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| 03:19.52 | concept10 | jetscreamer, dude, I fucking know that |
| 03:19.56 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 03:19.59 | concept10 | dont be stupid with me |
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| 03:20.00 | jetscreamer | so yes |
| 03:20.04 | jetscreamer | why not? |
| 03:20.07 | stoned | concept10: testicles? |
| 03:20.29 | jetscreamer | are you prejudiced against stupid people or something!!!??? |
| 03:20.41 | stoned | !dict stupid |
| 03:20.45 | dpkg | Dictionary 'stupid' (3 of 9): Stupid \Stu"pid\, a. [L. stupidus, fr. stupere to be stupefied: cf. F. stupide.] 1. Very dull; insensible; senseless; wanting in understanding; heavy; sluggish; in a state of stupor; -- said of persons. ;; lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity [ant: {smart}] ;; Observe what loads of stupid rhymes Oppress us in corrupted times. --Swift.. |
| 03:20.59 | concept10 | I sick of this ubuntu shit, and want to switch my desktop over to testing or unstable, but not if debian handles the gnome-desktop like ubuntu |
| 03:21.06 | jetscreamer | concept10: yes |
| 03:21.06 | colera | exit |
| 03:21.11 | colera | lol whoops |
| 03:21.13 | stoned | concept10: you're on ubuntu? |
| 03:21.13 | jetscreamer | /part |
| 03:21.19 | jetscreamer | or /quit |
| 03:21.25 | dan2 | !dict dumb |
| 03:21.28 | colera | jetscreamer: yeah thanks :P i know |
| 03:21.28 | dan2 | ~dict dumb |
| 03:21.34 | stoned | stop flooding |
| 03:21.46 | concept10 | stoned, I use debian on servers, but Im going to switch to the desktop |
| 03:22.00 | stoned | concept10: but ubuntu? |
| 03:22.20 | stoned | concept10: I have two words for you... |
| 03:22.22 | concept10 | stoned, ubuntu is a decent distro, but im tired of the way they do things |
| 03:22.26 | jetscreamer | he means he's going to switch his desktops over to debian also, like the servers he has |
| 03:22.34 | stoned | concept10: come on |
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| 03:22.46 | stoned | concept10: I've got two more words for you |
| 03:22.53 | concept10 | heh |
| 03:22.54 | stoned | concept10: come on!! |
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| 03:23.03 | jetscreamer | biggest thing i have(or had) against ubuntu is #ubuntu |
| 03:23.23 | concept10 | jetscreamer, that channel is crap |
| 03:23.29 | stoned | jetscreamer: hey don't get stupid with me |
| 03:23.32 | jetscreamer | what channel |
| 03:23.34 | concept10 | haha |
| 03:23.34 | stoned | jetscreamer: I know what he means |
| 03:23.36 | jetscreamer | ah oh nm |
| 03:23.53 | concept10 | alright jetscreamer, sorry for being irate |
| 03:24.00 | stoned | jetscreamer: I'm sory man I couldn't resist! lol |
| 03:24.11 | concept10 | hehe |
| 03:24.44 | jetscreamer | stoned: i'm only as stupid as i need to be... to communicate.. after all, you don't speak tensor calculus to dogs do you? |
| 03:24.51 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 03:24.54 | _rpc | how should i go about preparing initrd after installing custom built kernel? |
| 03:25.10 | stoned | jetscreamer: sure you do |
| 03:25.11 | jetscreamer | rpc do you really want initrd |
| 03:25.11 | concept10 | jetscreamer, I just asked a question in #ubuntu and these stupid people sit in there and give me noob answers, so I was mad when I came over and you responded, so sorry |
| 03:25.19 | jetscreamer | np dude |
| 03:25.23 | rpc | jetscreamer hm not sure |
| 03:25.23 | stoned | jetscreamer: if you can speak it, then dogs won't know the differnce |
| 03:25.35 | stoned | jetscreamer: dogs will probably think you're barking, in any language |
| 03:25.54 | stoned | jetscreamer: so really, you can, and should, speak tensor calculus with dogs |
| 03:26.05 | jetscreamer | rpc seriously, initrd is mostly for when you need the kernel for a few different box configs |
| 03:26.07 | jetscreamer | but |
| 03:26.11 | jetscreamer | either way |
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| 03:26.14 | jetscreamer | !initrd |
| 03:26.14 | dpkg | initrd is probably initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 03:26.15 | piper69 | how come none of thos 3 cards is not working |
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| 03:26.17 | jetscreamer | !kp |
| 03:26.18 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 03:26.20 | nikb | CracK |
| 03:26.23 | nikb | sadece kanalż izle |
| 03:26.26 | rpc | jetscreamer i have just built my kernel with make-kpkg and then tried to install it with dpkg... after reboot it says this typical crap about root system missing... |
| 03:26.30 | stoned | jetscreamer is on crack! oh no |
| 03:26.42 | rpc | jetscreamer that's what i did... |
| 03:26.48 | nikb | warez :) |
| 03:26.54 | jetscreamer | rpc: if you have an initrd directive in your bootloader, you need to pass --initrd to make-kpkg |
| 03:27.00 | stoned | oooh nice shiny warez |
| 03:27.03 | stoned | nikb: go away :/ |
| 03:27.06 | rpc | jetscreamer oh crap :/ |
| 03:27.15 | nikb | TCP/ŻP sock help |
| 03:27.16 | jetscreamer | if you don't want an initrd, take out/comment out the directive in the bootloaderconfig |
| 03:27.17 | rpc | jetscreamer so do i need to re-make now? |
| 03:27.29 | jetscreamer | remake, or just take the directive out |
| 03:27.32 | rpc | jetscreamer uh that would be nice... so i just comment it out |
| 03:27.35 | concept10 | jetscreamer, I asked how do I turn-off the apt-get autoremove stuff and someone asked me "What do you want to do?" WTF |
| 03:27.38 | stoned | making this package is a pain in the patoot |
| 03:27.44 | rpc | jetscreamer i need only a single kernel there |
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| 03:27.59 | stoned | build goddamit! /me grumbles |
| 03:28.01 | rpc | jetscreamer thanks alot, checking grub now |
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| 03:28.15 | jetscreamer | rpc: i used to compile mine a lot but got tired of it, now i use initrd and a stock kernel |
| 03:28.27 | concept10 | im thinking, if you dont know the answer, keep your hands off the keyboard and your mouth shut |
| 03:28.29 | stoned | concept10: maybe it was someone who came in after you had asked the question |
| 03:28.47 | jetscreamer | rpc: there probably 2 places in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:28.48 | nikb | s |
| 03:29.02 | nikb | pikacyu |
| 03:29.15 | jetscreamer | one, a default 'put this every time you run update-grub' thing, and then the actual line in the kernel stanza |
| 03:29.20 | stoned | concept10: or maybe he was just curious. I also want to know why you want to turn it off, whatever it is you want off that needs be off but isn't off |
| 03:29.32 | karsten | What's the newish IP interaction command? 'ip'? What package? |
| 03:29.42 | rpc | jetscreamer thank you, checking it now |
| 03:29.43 | jetscreamer | you mean like apt-get autoclean? |
| 03:29.49 | concept10 | stoned, is autoremove also in debian? I never see it |
| 03:30.08 | jetscreamer | iirc all autoclean does is a lesser removal or something, it's < apt-get clean |
| 03:30.19 | abrotman | !tell karsten about search |
| 03:30.21 | piper69 | how can i use dmesg to see if its eth1 or eth0 |
| 03:30.24 | concept10 | jetscreamer, thats different |
| 03:30.26 | jetscreamer | i don't think it automatically cleans it everytime... but i'm not wure |
| 03:30.27 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 03:30.29 | jetscreamer | nm then |
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| 03:30.53 | jetscreamer | dmesg |grep eth maybe |
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| 03:31.18 | jetscreamer | grepping is coo-el |
| 03:31.31 | jetscreamer | you must grok grep |
| 03:31.41 | stoned | apt-get install concept10 |
| 03:31.54 | jetscreamer | dpkg -i stoned |
| 03:31.54 | dpkg | package stoned is already installed |
| 03:31.57 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 03:31.59 | stoned | concept10: dude I looked through the apt-get manpage there is no autoremove option |
| 03:32.04 | rpc | jetscreamer i'm having problems with menu.lst |
| 03:32.23 | rpc | jetscreamer besides the kernel stanza i see no place to comment out to get rid of initrd |
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| 03:32.43 | concept10 | jetscreamer, stoned : It goes like this: Ubuntu has added autoremove to apt. They use these meta-packages like 'ubuntu-desktop' If you remove one package in this meta package that you dont like, like Evolution or something , apt-get autoremove reminds you and wants to remove the other packages that are defined/contained in this meta-package and I hate that. |
| 03:33.15 | stoned | concept10: so what are you trying to do? |
| 03:33.18 | stoned | hehehe |
| 03:33.31 | concept10 | are you being stupid? |
| 03:33.34 | concept10 | :) |
| 03:33.39 | stoned | heh maybe |
| 03:33.40 | squisher | piper69: I think it doesn't show in dmesg, but I might be wrong / it might depend on the driver |
| 03:33.56 | concept10 | No, im asking if debian manages packages like this on the desktop |
| 03:34.07 | stoned | concept10: you're asking about an ubuntu specific thing in debian? |
| 03:34.11 | rpc | anyone would like to advice me how to get rid of initrd? i prepared a custom kernel package and i can't boot it, what should i do now? |
| 03:34.13 | abrotman | concept10: then use aptitude |
| 03:34.29 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 03:34.30 | piper69 | it didn't show |
| 03:34.39 | piper69 | i know that eth0 is the lan |
| 03:34.49 | jetscreamer | no, if you take out a metapackage, that's all you take out... the metapackage |
| 03:35.02 | abrotman | jetscreamer: unless you use aptitude to install it |
| 03:35.17 | jetscreamer | i like it that way because i can select the metapackage and all it wants, then pick and choose |
| 03:35.30 | jetscreamer | dselect >* baybee |
| 03:35.35 | squisher | rpc: so did you comment the initrd line in the kernel stanza and tried it? |
| 03:35.36 | jetscreamer | craptitude blows |
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| 03:35.54 | rpc | squisher there is no initrd line for the kernel i want to boot |
| 03:35.58 | jetscreamer | rpc did you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 03:36.07 | concept10 | jetscreamer, true, but autoremove says that: "Hey! I can remove the rest of the packages if you like and cracks a Ubuntu friendly smile" |
| 03:36.07 | rpc | jetscreamer there wasn't much to edit... |
| 03:36.10 | jetscreamer | ahh? |
| 03:36.15 | hark | concept10: wtf.. you don't like that feature? |
| 03:36.19 | squisher | piper69: sometimes unplugging and replugging will generate a message in the syslog, that is the easiest I can think of |
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| 03:36.22 | concept10 | hell f no |
| 03:36.42 | squisher | rpc: if you want to exclude grub as your fault-source, just write down the kernel line and boot without menu.lst by going into the grub console with 'c' |
| 03:36.44 | piper69 | squisher: how can i read the syslog |
| 03:36.55 | rpc | squisher hmm |
| 03:36.59 | squisher | piper69: tail -f /var/log/syslog, press CTRL-C when done |
| 03:37.20 | concept10 | hark, okay, the feature is nice, but not with these meta-packages - Who wants to be reminded to remove 50 packages each time you use apt? |
| 03:37.21 | jetscreamer | rpc: in the grubshell, the help is good/ok ... better to have the manpage printed though |
| 03:37.26 | rpc | squisher so it will boot the first kernel then, i mean the one appearing as first on the list |
| 03:37.53 | squisher | rpc: no, you press "c" when you see the menu, and then you enter exactly those lines that you see in your menu.lst to boot |
| 03:38.06 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 03:38.12 | squisher | jetscreamer: I don't think there's need for that if you write down exactly what you need to type... |
| 03:38.14 | jetscreamer | get the manpage |
| 03:38.18 | rpc | squisher i will try it |
| 03:38.35 | piper69 | squisher: it doesn't show there |
| 03:38.35 | squisher | jetscreamer: I love grub's autocomplete :) |
| 03:38.38 | jetscreamer | type help in the shell, also |
| 03:38.50 | stoned | concept10: so use debian |
| 03:38.53 | rpc | squisher so do you mean that i should use this after c: /vmlinuz-2.6.20.1 root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 03:38.57 | jetscreamer | yeah... i just wish i could edit with it too, like say edit menu.lst :) |
| 03:39.13 | stoned | concept10: you can't commplain about ubuntu stuff in here. afaik debian doesn't do this bullshit |
| 03:39.20 | jetscreamer | rpc: more than that |
| 03:39.30 | jetscreamer | root (hd0) |
| 03:39.38 | hark | concept10: that's what aptitude does; and is nice. keeps track of all the dependencies installed with a package. less junk left |
| 03:39.40 | jetscreamer | kernel /vmlinuz blahblahblah |
| 03:39.43 | jetscreamer | boot |
| 03:39.47 | concept10 | stoned, thats what I was asking |
| 03:39.50 | jetscreamer | more like that |
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| 03:40.00 | rpc | jetscreamer as one liner? |
| 03:40.01 | stoned | well concept10 if you use aptitude yes it will behave kinda like that |
| 03:40.15 | squisher | rpc: _usually_ you just need the line that says "root (hd...)" and the one that says "kernel ....", then you enter boot and off you go (enter help to see all commands) |
| 03:40.18 | jetscreamer | root (hd0) || kernel /vmlinuz blahblahblah || boot |
| 03:40.24 | jetscreamer | not the || |
| 03:40.32 | mhall | What's the right way to handle occasional link flapping on a Fibre Channel SAN? My current approach is UGLY because it causes: kobject_add failed for 0:0:0:0 with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory. |
| 03:40.43 | jetscreamer | but, hdsomething... maybe not 0 for you |
| 03:41.01 | rpc | squisher, jetscreamer: thank you, will boot and see the console as for now i just don't get it yet... takes a good look i guess |
| 03:41.03 | jetscreamer | the better way is to use the autocomplete |
| 03:41.07 | jetscreamer | hit tab |
| 03:41.15 | mhall | What happens is, when the SAN link flaps once it a while it reactivates at a different /dev/ node than it had when it first came up. Is there a way to map the dev nodes by drive UUID like you can fstab mounts? |
| 03:41.53 | jetscreamer | mhall: if i understand you, and i'm not sure i do, udev rules can i 'think' |
| 03:41.59 | stoned | mhall: !!! |
| 03:42.05 | jetscreamer | i know udev does some uuid by partition |
| 03:42.32 | jetscreamer | not sure about any of it though |
| 03:42.32 | mhall | stoned: ya |
| 03:42.32 | stoned | mhall: its been a while since I've seen you around |
| 03:42.32 | dondelelcaro | mhall: if you're using udev, yes, you can do that fairly trivially. |
| 03:42.39 | mhall | dondelelcaro: cool |
| 03:42.44 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 03:42.47 | dondelelcaro | mhall: the general way, though, is to ignore the /dev device that it comes up with, and create a /dev symlink to whatever device it is |
| 03:42.53 | karsten | !searchsmite abrotman |
| 03:42.55 | karsten | Feh. |
| 03:42.59 | abrotman | !lose karsten |
| 03:42.59 | dpkg | karsten: You Lose. |
| 03:43.02 | abrotman | :) |
| 03:44.16 | piper69 | i am lost |
| 03:44.44 | rpc | squisher, jetscreamer i really don't get it... i'm in the console now |
| 03:44.48 | jetscreamer | i don't know anything about wireless under linux, sorry piper69 |
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| 03:45.04 | jetscreamer | rpc: type root (hd then hit tab |
| 03:45.06 | rpc | i wrote the line and i'm back in the grub shell |
| 03:45.19 | piper69 | abrotman: i heard you are the man, help me out |
| 03:45.36 | abrotman | piper69: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 03:45.41 | rpc | argh i get the idea now... |
| 03:45.44 | abrotman | piper69: have you tried ndiswrapper? |
| 03:45.49 | jetscreamer | rpc: doh |
| 03:45.52 | abrotman | piper69: does dmesg say anything useful ? |
| 03:46.01 | abrotman | piper69: have you actually checked google? |
| 03:46.02 | abrotman | !ifi |
| 03:46.03 | rpc | jetscreamer but after i type it all in... the boot command will actually boot this crap, right? |
| 03:46.03 | jetscreamer | rpc: i meant me-doh |
| 03:46.04 | abrotman | duh |
| 03:46.04 | mhall | dondelelcaro: the symlink gets remapped? |
| 03:46.13 | jetscreamer | rpc: theoretically |
| 03:46.15 | abrotman | !wireless |
| 03:46.15 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or and Linksys WPC11 support: http://z.cwriter.org/index.php/wifi/Cartes/WPC11+debian+how-to |
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| 03:46.31 | piper69 | abrotman: if i can't get the card to work how in the world do you expect me to complie a kernel |
| 03:46.34 | piper69 | no |
| 03:46.37 | piper69 | no |
| 03:46.40 | jetscreamer | rpc: you didn't run update-grub |
| 03:46.46 | jetscreamer | after you installed the kernel |
| 03:46.58 | abrotman | piper69: a functional wifi card doesn't impact your ability to compile |
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| 03:47.03 | rpc | i got kernel panic again |
| 03:47.09 | mhall | dondelelcaro: if i understand you right, the symlink gets dynamically remapped by udev or the kernel or ... ??? ... |
| 03:47.15 | rpc | jetscreamer damn it |
| 03:47.20 | jetscreamer | rpc: boot an older kernel and run update-grub |
| 03:47.25 | jetscreamer | the previous kernel |
| 03:47.27 | abrotman | piper69: and i saw you tell someone earlier that you had it plugged in via wired LAN :) |
| 03:47.27 | rpc | jetscreamer so will that fix the pain? |
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| 03:47.39 | jetscreamer | rpc: if you did the kernel correctly, it should imo |
| 03:47.48 | rpc | thank you, trying now |
| 03:47.59 | jetscreamer | and if your menu.lst is correct |
| 03:48.06 | jetscreamer | 'still' |
| 03:48.08 | piper69 | man, this is driving me crazy |
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| 03:48.37 | jetscreamer | check it after you run update-grub, but before you do, examine /boot/grub/device.map and make sure it's correct also |
| 03:48.59 | rpc | jetscreamer in fact i have never updated grub after dpkg -i... |
| 03:49.03 | rpc | must be it |
| 03:50.17 | jetscreamer | rpc: the other alternative is that when you did make menuconfig, you missed something |
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| 03:51.12 | jetscreamer | or could even be both :) muhahaha |
| 03:52.37 | Rober1 | :) |
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| 03:54.06 | rpc | jetscreamer do i really need to boot to the same kernel? |
| 03:54.10 | rpc | or can be any? |
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| 03:59.04 | rpc | now i can't boot the freaking box |
| 03:59.23 | concept10 | how do you configure top to only show the processes used by the logged in users only? I used to be able to see processes in use system wide |
| 03:59.24 | rpc | it freezes on postgre |
| 03:59.35 | rpc | will this shit ever work as expected? |
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| 04:04.47 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Alright, so the problem I have now is the by-uuid device files are symbolic links, so they cause user-space to resolve the link to the real device sda1, then after the link flaps the device comes up at sdb1, and the attempt to remount crashes because it tries to place the new mount over the top of the old one. |
| 04:05.04 | mhall | dondelelcaro: so the by-uuid devices fix the issue of boot-time link flap but not runtime link flap |
| 04:05.17 | mhall | dondelelcaro: what piece of the puzzle am i missing? i think i need a device mapper |
| 04:05.28 | dondelelcaro | mhall: uh... if you've got things that are flapping without them being remounted, you've got a real problem. |
| 04:05.38 | rpc | jetscreamer i have to say that your advices are useless, i just wasted 40 mins for nothing |
| 04:05.50 | rpc | it wasn't about the damn grub update, still getting the same error |
| 04:06.16 | dondelelcaro | mhall: alternatively, you can use the name of the devices instead of creating symlinks to them |
| 04:06.18 | rpc | there must be something wrong with initrd there |
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| 04:06.38 | dondelelcaro | (or use hardlinks) |
| 04:06.44 | mhall | dondelelcaro: yeah, the link flaps, and when the device comes up again, it has the same UUID device of course but since the kernel thinks it's sdb instead of sda the kernel doesn't realize it's the same drive it was before |
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| 04:07.12 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i heard there's some special daemon for fibre channel that maps the devices right, but i don't know what it is or how to use it. |
| 04:07.23 | karsten | Is there anyplace in /proc to get a list of open files (or count), or do I need to run 'lsof'? |
| 04:07.24 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i think it involved a kernel hook of some sort |
| 04:07.37 | dondelelcaro | mhall: you can still use udev to do it, just don't create symlinks; create real devices. |
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| 04:07.52 | rpc | i'm f**ing remaking the damn kernel :( all because the missing initrd switch :( |
| 04:07.57 | rpc | of* |
| 04:08.06 | mhall | dondelelcaro: ah ok, so i'll grep for the original rule and modify it |
| 04:08.06 | cwheeler | how do i get dpkg/synaptic to ignore a "broken" package? |
| 04:08.22 | karsten | cwheeler: Fix it ;-) |
| 04:08.41 | streuner | cwheeler: remove it ;-) |
| 04:09.02 | cwheeler | its the nvidia glx package i don't have the kernel module package i had to compile it myslef |
| 04:09.23 | cwheeler | it works fine but it can't find the kernel module package which doesn't seem to exist |
| 04:09.37 | cwheeler | so i don't want to remove it and i don't know how to fix it |
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| 04:10.18 | rpc | do you have an idea how to save another 30 mins and fix the box so i can boot off the just-prepared custom kernel? i installed it and it won't boot, telling me about missing root |
| 04:10.22 | mhall | dondelelcaro: how might i make this into a device generating rule instead of a link generating rule: SYMLINK+="disk/by-uuid/$env{ID_FS_UUID}" |
| 04:10.37 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i think what i need to do is replace SYMLINK+= with NAME+= |
| 04:10.38 | rpc | my grub is using initrd... how can i tell it to stop doing that? |
| 04:10.44 | mhall | dondelelcaro: but i'm not totally sure |
| 04:10.46 | mhall | rpc: new kernel |
| 04:11.01 | rpc | mhall i compiled without initrd switch |
| 04:11.14 | rpc | i'm really confused, making blind steps |
| 04:11.27 | rpc | and i'm seriously tired of this |
| 04:11.55 | rpc | isn't there a way to reconfigure grub to skip initrd crap? |
| 04:12.54 | rpc | or should i just prepare one for the new kernel manually? |
| 04:12.54 | cwheeler | you could just compile your custom kernel with initrd even if you don't need it |
| 04:12.54 | cwheeler | that's what i did |
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| 04:13.04 | rpc | ok but it's 5am and i want to go to bed... can't until i finish this... while fresh kernel will take another 20 mins |
| 04:14.38 | rpc | the freaking guide never said anything about initrd |
| 04:14.47 | rpc | how come is that possible at all |
| 04:15.00 | rpc | i mean this one: http://www.debianuniverse.com/readonline/chapter/21 |
| 04:15.16 | mhall | dondelelcaro: I found the issue: Only one rule can set the node name, all later rules with a NAME key will be ignored. |
| 04:19.11 | cwheeler | EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -5 |
| 04:19.11 | cwheeler | ALSA device list: |
| 04:19.11 | cwheeler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:27.34 | ndowens | i can't get the java plugin to work in iceweasel, but it worked in firefox |
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| 04:29.21 | concept10 | is it safe to run autogen.sh as root when installing apps? it doesnt work as normal user. |
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| 04:30.07 | Wyzard | concept10: You're compiling something from source? |
| 04:30.18 | concept10 | Wyzard, yes |
| 04:30.48 | concept10 | unfortunately there is no INSTALL documentation |
| 04:30.49 | Wyzard | Packages are highly preferable |
| 04:31.05 | Wyzard | unless it's something that doesn't have a package, but many things do |
| 04:31.25 | concept10 | Wyzard, I wouldnt be compiling if I didnt have the need |
| 04:31.29 | Faithful | what could I use to set up a global address book for a network? |
| 04:31.40 | ndowens | so how do i get the sun java plugin to work in iceweasel, i did it the same way as i did in firefox |
| 04:31.46 | piper69 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:31.51 | piper69 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:32.07 | Wyzard | Anyway, autogen.sh is normally just supposed to create stuff in the build directory, isn't it? |
| 04:32.15 | Wyzard | shouldn't need root... do you know why it's failing |
| 04:32.29 | ndowens | piper69: search for RTL8180L for linux |
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| 04:32.48 | Wyzard | ndowens: afaik, you shouldn't have to "do anything" to get it to work... the package puts the files in the right places and Iceweasel should see it |
| 04:32.55 | ndowens | hmm |
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| 04:33.01 | vinboy | hi |
| 04:33.05 | ndowens | Wyzard: i did the about:plugins and it is listed |
| 04:33.12 | vinboy | does debian has more uptodate packages compared to ubuntu? |
| 04:33.14 | Wyzard | OK, then it's recognized and working |
| 04:33.24 | Wyzard | vinboy: In testing/unstable, yes; in stable, no |
| 04:33.29 | ndowens | Wyzard: i mean not listed |
| 04:33.31 | ndowens | sorry |
| 04:33.34 | Wyzard | oh |
| 04:33.55 | vinboy | Wyzard: ok. cool |
| 04:34.02 | Wyzard | dunno then... the only box where I have Iceweasel installed is 64-bit and there's no 64-bit Java plugin |
| 04:34.16 | Wyzard | but Iceweasel is just a rename of Firefox, and should see the same plugins |
| 04:34.24 | ndowens | hmm it is weird |
| 04:34.27 | ndowens | let me look |
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| 04:35.05 | vinboy | i want to install debian, but the installer cd is only 32mb? |
| 04:35.36 | Guerin | yes |
| 04:35.38 | Wyzard | vinboy: That's the network installation... just enough to start the installer and load some drivers, and the rest is downloaded on-the-fly |
| 04:35.39 | ndowens | Wyzard: going to install it in the firefox dir and see if it works, if it does i will tell ya |
| 04:35.46 | Guerin | vinboy: read the install guide |
| 04:36.02 | Wyzard | ndowens: You used the Debian packages for Java, right? |
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| 04:36.40 | ndowens | Wyzard: nope i used the offical sun java download, and btw linking it to the firefox dir didn't work |
| 04:36.55 | Wyzard | ndowens: Don't do that... uninstall it and use the package |
| 04:37.10 | ndowens | there is an offical sun java plugin? |
| 04:37.16 | ndowens | deb file? |
| 04:37.26 | Guerin | ndowens: /msg dpkg java |
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| 04:37.44 | Wyzard | "install java", actually |
| 04:38.22 | Wyzard | sarge has make-jpkg which builds a .deb from a Sun tarball; etch actually has pre-built packages |
| 04:38.54 | Guerin | `java' has a bunchj of other information about it, and tells you to read `install java' |
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| 04:40.04 | ndowens | so install sun-java5-jre |
| 04:40.24 | Wyzard | if you're running testing/unstable, yes |
| 04:40.59 | karsten | earthcquke in San Jose. |
| 04:41.00 | karsten | Minor. 3.? |
| 04:41.00 | Wyzard | sun-java6-jre is available too |
| 04:41.00 | cwheeler | what magnitude? |
| 04:41.00 | karsten | Walls rattled. |
| 04:41.08 | vinboy | too bad the netinstall doesn't support wlan |
| 04:41.16 | stoned | hah |
| 04:41.21 | Guerin | it does |
| 04:41.23 | vinboy | will i able to load my wlan module after booting netinstall cd? |
| 04:41.25 | stoned | we had katrina! |
| 04:41.32 | karsten | Looks like it may have been centered in Berkeley. |
| 04:41.35 | stoned | earthquake shmearthquake |
| 04:41.37 | Guerin | vinboy: what network card? |
| 04:41.43 | vinboy | Guerin: i use madwifi driver |
| 04:41.45 | karsten | http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40194055.html |
| 04:42.16 | josh415 | i felt the quake in SF |
| 04:42.39 | piper69 | is there is a driver for Realtek 8180L |
| 04:43.07 | karsten | josh415: Closer to Lafayette. |
| 04:43.35 | josh415 | just a little bump. only a little bumpier than when my upstairs neighbors jump around. |
| 04:43.56 | Guerin | vinboy: then you'll need another network connection |
| 04:44.07 | vinboy | Guerin: ok thx |
| 04:45.19 | nOp | b |
| 04:45.33 | vinboy | i'm currently on ubuntu, can I install debian on another partition using chroot? |
| 04:46.33 | ndowens | ok installing sun-java5-jre by apt didn't work |
| 04:46.58 | Guerin | !didn't work |
| 04:46.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 04:47.09 | Guerin | ndowens: perhaps tou might want to give it a payrise. |
| 04:47.39 | ndowens | sorry, what i mean don't work is installing that didn't make iceweasel have the java plugin |
| 04:47.55 | Guerin | ndowens: you probably need to do something else |
| 04:47.56 | daya | I can't boot debian from my BIOS (debian testing) |
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| 04:48.03 | Guerin | like check that there's a symlink or such |
| 04:48.10 | Guerin | daya: why not? |
| 04:48.25 | ndowens | ugh sorry lol |
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| 04:49.40 | daya | Guerin, It doesn't boot but in other comuter with same cd it boots |
| 04:49.52 | Guerin | daya: check your boot device order |
| 04:50.23 | ndowens | there we go installed the plugin by apt thx! |
| 04:50.26 | daya | Guerin, It is of course first boot device is cdrom |
| 04:50.42 | Guerin | daya: what does it try to boot? Will it boot any other cds? |
| 04:50.50 | sceadugenga | hello, i have a device here that has a static ip address built in and cannot be changed. I don't know what it is though. Is there a way to find out using ARP? or something, so i can find its ip and connect to it? |
| 04:51.11 | daya | Guerin, yes if boots ubuntu, fedora and other linux distros |
| 04:51.27 | daya | Guerin, some one has told me that it is not supported by my bios |
| 04:51.41 | daya | Guerin, it's ture my bios is phoneix |
| 04:51.46 | Guerin | daya: someone is stupid, since ubuntu uses the same bootable stuff as debian |
| 04:51.48 | daya | Guerin, Via borad |
| 04:52.27 | Guerin | sceadugenga: put some nic on the same network in promiscuous, run a sniffer on it and reboot the device |
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| 04:52.33 | daya | Guerin, then any solution, it wait boot from cd: some time and go to the grub menu of my dfault OS |
| 04:52.34 | palmax_ | Hello! |
| 04:52.49 | Guerin | daya: dunno. |
| 04:53.26 | palmax_ | I have a problem with OOimpress. I cant see some slides in note mode. I wanna print my notes with my slides. How can I do? |
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| 04:57.16 | rpc | do i need scsi support compiled in to boot off sata drive? |
| 04:57.19 | Guerin | palmax: ask #openoffice.org? |
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| 04:58.41 | karsten | josh415: 4.2, centered in Lafayette. |
| 04:59.09 | palmax | thx |
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| 04:59.19 | Guerin | wtf |
| 04:59.26 | Guerin | a 4.2 earthquale is news? |
| 04:59.36 | Guerin | i thought you guys got shitloads of quakes in california? |
| 05:00.47 | vinboy | should I use ia64 or i386? i have intel core 2 duo |
| 05:00.58 | willywoo | Guerin: you'll get a few over there too I suppose? |
| 05:00.59 | Guerin | vinboy: i386 |
| 05:01.10 | vinboy | k |
| 05:01.10 | vinboy | thx |
| 05:01.25 | Guerin | willywoo: yeah, lots in my city - recently lots of people in auckland thought the world was ending when they had a 4.5 or something |
| 05:01.42 | Guerin | they don't get 'em up there, despite living on 50 active volcanoes |
| 05:01.44 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: we do, but a 4.2 is actually something that can be felt |
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| 05:01.56 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: yeah. |
| 05:02.55 | vinboy | about how many MB does the (debootstrap --arch ARCH sarge http://...) download? |
| 05:02.55 | willywoo | Guerin: I got a little shaker over her the other day - it wasn't even reported |
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| 05:03.18 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:03.36 | Guerin | not many over wes I suppose |
| 05:03.41 | Guerin | wesT |
| 05:05.04 | willywoo | Guerin: maybe it was too many beers |
| 05:05.44 | Guerin | woah, the ground's like, moving and shit |
| 05:05.56 | Guerin | i'd love to live in raglan |
| 05:06.01 | Guerin | if only there was work there |
| 05:06.06 | Guerin | and no, hamiltron doesn't count |
| 05:06.14 | tomp2 | i installed Debian 3.1r5-speakup. I thought it was the standard Debian. and was current. it seemed to be a very limited install. Is speakup mainstream or special? |
| 05:06.39 | Guerin | tomp2: i've never heard of it. Did you download it from a debian.org url? |
| 05:06.41 | dondelelcaro | tomp2: the speakup is special |
| 05:06.41 | willywoo | no -- I agree -- hamlington does _not_ count |
| 05:07.00 | dondelelcaro | tomp2: however, you can use it to easily upgrade to a full install. |
| 05:07.25 | dondelelcaro | it's primarily designed for people who use braille terminals or are otherwise visually impaired. |
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| 05:08.31 | hardbop200 | help! - I don't use xdm/kdm/gdm, but startx. how do I change what window manager is launched with that command? I've googled around, but can't find anything |
| 05:08.55 | tomp2 | dondelelcaro: could you give me some pointers? it's been hell so far. |
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| 05:09.22 | pwned | hardbop200: the first place looked for startx program executions should be ~/.xsession |
| 05:09.28 | vrkhans | hi |
| 05:09.32 | vrkhans | can any one help |
| 05:09.33 | dondelelcaro | tomp2: once you've done the install, you can install anything else you want. Without knowing what you want, I can't really give you much help. |
| 05:09.33 | vrkhans | me |
| 05:09.37 | tomp2 | dondelelcaro: i dont need the impaired version stuff at all |
| 05:09.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell vrkhans -about ask |
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| 05:09.58 | dondelelcaro | tomp2: in that case, I'd suggest using a normal installer. |
| 05:10.07 | vrkhans | dondelelcaro: I am planning to share my windows partition in linux |
| 05:10.10 | dondelelcaro | tomp2: it'll be easier in the long run. |
| 05:10.11 | vrkhans | it is mounted |
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| 05:10.28 | vrkhans | but i can not access it as default user |
| 05:10.42 | hardbop200 | pwned: thanks, I'll look there first, thanks for the pointer |
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| 05:10.57 | vrkhans | to access it i have to change it to root |
| 05:10.58 | hark | hardbop200: update-alternatives |
| 05:11.28 | vrkhans | how i can get access of that drive at boot time |
| 05:11.40 | hardbop200 | hark: thanks, I'll look there too :) |
| 05:12.08 | vrkhans | dondelelcaro: you got what i mean |
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| 05:13.03 | pwned | if a package in unstable hasn't been updated in 6 months, doesn't look orphaned and I need it for development, what do I do ? |
| 05:13.20 | tomp2 | dondelelcaro: the laptop hardware forces me to install from the hd, (no cd no flop) so i used a 2nd system to put iso img, vmlinuz & initrd.gz onto it, the moved back and booted. what cd iso should i try this time ( i picked wrong one b4) |
| 05:13.36 | pwned | 1) build it from source 2) make a package 3) wallow in misery ? |
| 05:13.53 | tomp2 | dondelelcaro: i used DamnSmallLinux to get be bootstrapped |
| 05:14.07 | tomp2 | get me bootstrapped |
| 05:14.24 | vrkhans | what is umask |
| 05:14.42 | vrkhans | umask=007 |
| 05:15.00 | Guerin | pwned: 2, and then ask #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org if someone will NMU it for you |
| 05:16.50 | pwned | oh great, that gives me an opportunity to do 1 and 2 and 3 at the same time |
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| 05:17.47 | Guerin | pwned: hehe |
| 05:17.54 | Guerin | pwned: and maybe to become the new maintainer |
| 05:17.56 | concept10 | im trying to compile some apps and I keep getting permissions problems. What should I do? I dont want to run checkinstall using root |
| 05:18.10 | Guerin | concept10: fakeroot |
| 05:18.32 | concept10 | Guerin, ahh... |
| 05:18.36 | concept10 | thanks.. |
| 05:20.39 | concept10 | Guerin, how do you use it? |
| 05:21.04 | Guerin | concept10: fakeroot checkinstall -D foo |
| 05:21.17 | Guerin | concept10: otherwise discussed in `man fakeroot' |
| 05:21.30 | concept10 | Guerin, thanks again, (the man page isnt so clear) |
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| 05:22.58 | concept10 | crap, still getting permissions errors :( |
| 05:24.12 | concept10 | /usr/bin/checkinstall: line 1098: description-pak: Permission denied --- rocks my socks |
| 05:24.37 | Guerin | concept10: mm, freakish |
| 05:24.47 | Guerin | find out what it's trying to do |
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| 05:29.07 | willywoo | what's that on the richter scale? |
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| 05:30.55 | tomp2 | Debian 3.1r5 has manuals on the cd that show how to install the .iso an vmliuz |
| 05:31.00 | tomp2 | crap |
| 05:31.18 | scv | me? |
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| 05:32.58 | tomp2 | Cebian 3.1r5 has manuals that show how to install from the hard drive by copying the .iso, vmlinuz and initrd.gz to a running linux, editing grub and rebooting. the install will use the .iso like a cd. i did this it work,s the resulting debina says it is 3.1r5-speakup and is very limited |
| 05:33.46 | tomp2 | I had to do this becuz of limited hardware, if i use the cd again ,the same thing will happen. it was suggested i do a 'normal install' how? |
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| 05:34.08 | rcbarnes | so I have this *really* annoying issue where i have some package mpt-status installed, but when I try to uninstall it, it doesn't stop (because it's not running) so the uninstall breaks. It also seems to be a broken package, so every apt operation I do tries to alternately install or uninstall mpt-status and they all fail because of it. |
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| 05:34.44 | tomp2 | the method is explained doc/install/manual/en/ch04s05.html |
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| 05:36.52 | kupesoft | etch >= 2008? |
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| 05:37.42 | scv | what's the next after etch? |
| 05:38.08 | tomp2 | the De-6*39+-- |
| 05:38.17 | concept10 | bill |
| 05:38.17 | VonFluffy | lenny |
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| 05:38.30 | scv | haha |
| 05:38.48 | VonFluffy | seriously it is Lenny |
| 05:38.49 | VonFluffy | Reference: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/11/msg00004.html |
| 05:38.53 | scv | oh |
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| 05:39.01 | willywoo | enouf: will you hold my hand if i upgrade to etch? |
| 05:39.29 | LeFallen | I have six 500GiB drives running in striped (hardware) RAID, can I make a single partition for this space (~3TiB) and if so, what filesystem(s) can I use? |
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| 05:40.04 | enouf | willywoo: no apologies .. i'm busy atm .. but others may ;-) .. I gave you almost all the info you need .. almost to where you need no hand holding .. but at the LEAST .. do a fsck at first |
| 05:41.00 | willywoo | enouf: appreciated - I'm reading atm |
| 05:41.41 | tomp2 | the Debian manuals 5.1.2 booting from Linux Using Lilo or Grub say... to 'keep an existing partition on the hard drive unchanged, you can download the hd-media/initrd.gz and its kernel, as well as copy a CD iso to the harddrive" I did this, but got the wrong hd-install files. wherecan i find the normal hd-install files for 3.1r5? |
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| 05:48.43 | tomp2 | where can i find hd-media/initrd.gz for debian 3.1r5? |
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| 05:49.23 | simonrvn | on a mirror |
| 05:50.29 | tomp2 | simonrvn: i cant find it on mirror, been looking for hours now, so i think i need help. can you find it on a mirror? |
| 05:50.36 | hardbop200 | whoever recommended update-alternatives for changing the window manager, thank you - it worked perfectly! |
| 05:51.01 | simonrvn | let's see |
| 05:51.14 | simonrvn | !+find hd-install/initrd |
| 05:51.15 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 05:51.24 | simonrvn | !+find hd-media/initrd |
| 05:51.26 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 05:52.00 | tomp2 | simonrvn: thanks, will try |
| 05:52.11 | simonrvn | wait |
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| 05:52.24 | tomp2 | ok |
| 05:54.50 | simonrvn | !+find initrd |
| 05:54.50 | simonrvn | com'on bot |
| 05:54.50 | simonrvn | the bot is tired like i am ;p |
| 05:54.51 | simonrvn | tomp2: where on the mirrors did you look? |
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| 05:55.44 | tomp2 | simonrvn: the list at debian.org... i'm trying to find the 1 i did find before..http://ftp.se.debian.org i think |
| 05:56.03 | simonrvn | try http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/d/debian-installer/ |
| 05:56.17 | simonrvn | no, don't bother, nothing in there |
| 05:57.40 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'hd-media/initrd' returned no results. |
| 05:58.03 | simonrvn | obvious places don't turn up anything. try google search, sorry |
| 05:58.24 | simonrvn | something like "hd-media initrd" or something like that |
| 05:58.30 | tomp2 | what happened, i read the docs, found 1 set of the hd-media files, and used them, got instaled, but later found they were a blind debian fork called 'speakup' now just want to find the right files & start over |
| 05:58.33 | simonrvn | oh, add 'debian' to that |
| 05:58.47 | tomp2 | k thaks |
| 05:59.35 | simonrvn | good luck |
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| 06:00.49 | vinboy | hi |
| 06:01.07 | vinboy | why does ubuntu uses its own repository whereas Mepis use debian's repository? |
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| 06:02.05 | hark | better control. really.. ask #ubuntu |
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| 06:02.40 | simonrvn | we're not #ubuntu, ask them |
| 06:04.20 | gpogo | I just installed the rubygems package on etch and I can't seem to run commands that I installed via a gem, how do you go about adding it to the PATH of all users? |
| 06:04.26 | tomp2 | ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/20050317sarge1/images/hd-media/ , now if thats NOT what i got fooled into using this morning, i'll make some progress |
| 06:05.30 | dexomsrc | OMG |
| 06:05.50 | dexomsrc | SOMEONE JUST ROBBED ME AT KNIFEPOINT and STOLE 5 ounces of cannabis |
| 06:05.56 | dexomsrc | DAMN it |
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| 06:06.40 | dexomsrc | They also took some 2C-E |
| 06:06.49 | dexomsrc | 0_o |
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| 06:07.09 | dexomsrc | Just thought I'd like to let everyone in #debian know what an awful day I'm having |
| 06:07.54 | jamie | im trying to find which xorg driver i should use for an intel 82865G, wondering if anyone knew (or know how to have xorg autodetect the video module during dpkg-reconfigure) |
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| 06:10.54 | vinboy | is there no 2.6.20 kernel on the repository? |
| 06:13.01 | vinboy | when I try to compile kernel i get the following (debian/ruleset/misc/version_vars.mk:55: *** missing `endif'. Stop.) |
| 06:13.10 | vinboy | any idea? |
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| 06:14.07 | hark | vinboy: there isn't |
| 06:14.13 | hark | jamie: i810 |
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| 06:14.35 | jamie | hark: tried that, no devices detected |
| 06:14.47 | shido6 | anyone use openvpn? |
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| 06:15.04 | hark | jamie: any thing else? |
| 06:15.12 | shido6 | the webmin openvpn sits and stares at me while I pull my hair out :) |
| 06:15.15 | hark | jamie: tried with vesa? |
| 06:15.28 | hark | jamie: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 06:15.52 | jamie | vesa works but no hardware benefits, iirc? |
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| 06:15.58 | hark | yes |
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| 06:16.38 | jamie | hrm |
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| 06:18.32 | pwned | looks like ubuntu is more responsive in terms of gtkmm-2.4 http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gtkmm2.4/gtkmm2.4_2.10.7-0ubuntu1/changelog |
| 06:18.49 | pwned | whereas unstable is at 2.8.8 |
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| 06:22.54 | piper69 | anyone know how to use Linksys wcp11 ver4 pcmcia card chipset RTL8180L |
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| 06:25.56 | bintut | anyone here uses banshee on debian etch? i just installed it but whenever i launch it, it stops on initializing the audio.. anyone? |
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| 06:32.02 | Tigger__ | piper69, have you seen http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11/ |
| 06:32.46 | damog | bintut: do you have the audio mixer available? |
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| 06:37.03 | piper69 | that is the website i was reading but when i went to Realtek |
| 06:37.07 | piper69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.00 | bintut | damog: yeah.. |
| 06:38.03 | simonrvn | try downloading it again, maybe it was the download that did it in |
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| 06:38.40 | zu22 | yo |
| 06:39.02 | hark | !wireless |
| 06:39.02 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or and Linksys WPC11 support: http://z.cwriter.org/index.php/wifi/Cartes/WPC11+debian+how-to |
| 06:40.34 | maddash | !git |
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| 06:40.35 | dpkg | git is, like, version control system that was started by Linus Toravalds, which is currently used to maintain the linux kernel, http://git.or.cz/, or http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git.html |
| 06:41.54 | zu22 | running debian testing and 2.4.27-2-686 kernel, would like to upgrade to the most stable 2.6 kernel available for testing. is hould just "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.foo" and then edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo and be ready to go right? i don't need the kernel headers package unless i roll my own kernel the debian way right? i am using a 2.4 kernel image package now and it checks for stuff i don't have so i wonder if i should build my own kernel from |
| 06:42.03 | zu22 | dpkg -i it hmm any thoughts? |
| 06:42.03 | dpkg | package it hmm any thoughts is already installed |
| 06:42.16 | hark | piper69: the last link there ^ |
| 06:42.16 | zu22 | lol |
| 06:42.34 | geo-rge | dpkg -L yougottabekidding |
| 06:42.34 | dpkg | ii yougottabekidding 2.7-1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 06:42.50 | simonrvn | kernel headers are for compiliong things, not "rolling your own kernel" |
| 06:42.55 | simonrvn | compiling |
| 06:43.21 | zu22 | simonrvn: ah like compiling programs that use the kernel? |
| 06:43.41 | simonrvn | no just plain compiling |
| 06:43.46 | zu22 | simonrvn: oh heh |
| 06:44.14 | simonrvn | though more often than not the source will be using glibc's headers |
| 06:44.14 | bintut | $ banshee |
| 06:44.15 | zu22 | simonrvn: any thougts on what i should do? kernel image vs install vs source vs install with my own kernel package? |
| 06:44.16 | bintut | (/usr/lib/banshee/banshee.exe:19686): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: GdkPixbufLoader finalized without calling gdk_pixbuf_loader_close() - this is not allowed. You must explicitly end the data stream to the loader before dropping the last reference.Warning: [03/02/2007 14:43:05] (Cannot connect to NetworkManager) - An available, working network connection will be assumed |
| 06:44.53 | simonrvn | start by getting a debian one, then you can play once you get used to it |
| 06:45.27 | simonrvn | bintut: see: /msg dpkg bts |
| 06:45.56 | zu22 | simonrvn: ok i've been running this 2.4 debian kernel image for over a year now , will grab the latest 2.6 image i find with apt |
| 06:45.57 | simonrvn | i.e., we're not it, and please file a bug report |
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| 06:49.52 | vinboy | i'm currently running sarge, how do I upgrade to etch? do i need to reinstall? |
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| 06:50.41 | simonrvn | dpkg: sarge->etch |
| 06:50.41 | dpkg | Edit your sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch'. Save the file, then 'aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade'. Then consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. |
| 06:50.44 | simonrvn | ^^ |
| 06:50.44 | hark | no, /msg dpkg sarge->etch and read the etch release notes fist |
| 06:50.51 | simonrvn | and no, no need to reinstall |
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| 06:51.54 | willywoo | I'm about to do this upgrade to etch and am a bit nervous. I'm on a slow dial-up connection, will it hang, or die if the connection is too slow or broken? |
| 06:51.57 | vinboy | cool thx |
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| 06:52.54 | pwned | willywoo: it can safely continue downloading from where it left after the connection is re-established. |
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| 06:53.43 | willywoo | pwned: thanks, and will it continue to function where I am now in sarge - with a few applications running? |
| 06:54.23 | pwned | you will probably get a libc and apt upgrade |
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| 06:55.19 | pwned | it could be a good idea to go init1 after the libc upgrade and restart apt-get (or aptitude, whatever you are using for updating) after the apt upgrade |
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| 06:56.28 | willywoo | pwned: what do you mean by init1 ? |
| 06:56.28 | pwned | or perhaps it will just work fine =P |
| 06:56.40 | pwned | like going to phase 1 of boot |
| 06:56.51 | willywoo | pwned: ah - ok |
| 06:56.58 | pwned | something like rebooting, but not =P |
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| 06:58.36 | hark | willywoo: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 06:58.52 | willywoo | hark - ta -- reading......... |
| 06:59.40 | vinboy | when I try to compile kernel i get the following (debian/ruleset/misc/version_vars.mk:55: *** missing `endif'. Stop.) |
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| 07:11.25 | sidjster | why cant i find thes headers linux-headers-2.6.18-3-k7 |
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| 07:20.03 | hark | sepski: iirc -4- is in etch now.. either upgrade your kernel or check p.d.o/s.d.n |
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| 07:20.44 | hark | sepski: er, sorry |
| 07:20.52 | sepski | ?? |
| 07:20.56 | sepski | :) |
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| 07:21.59 | hark | was for sidjster, didn't notice he left :) |
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| 07:31.44 | jamie | im up and running in gnome but i get permission denied errors with /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.. do users need to be in a special group for sound? |
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| 07:32.31 | liable | jamie: audio group |
| 07:32.41 | jamie | ah, silly me |
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| 07:42.37 | maddash | it seems like there are new kernel images/sources available in the etch repository (it was 2.6.18.6, i think, when i checked a month ago). but what's this "dfsg.1-11" business? |
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| 07:44.48 | cahoot | The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG) |
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| 07:45.12 | maddash | cahoot: i meant the suffix taken as a whole, not just the "dfsg" |
| 07:45.40 | maddash | is 2.6.18.dfsg.1-11 newer than 2.6.18.4? |
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| 07:46.24 | Supaplex | no. dfsg and everything after is the debian appended part. |
| 07:46.32 | Supaplex | I would expect... |
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| 07:47.20 | maddash | Supaplex: so the etch repo just went backwards with the versioning?? |
| 07:48.13 | Supaplex | let's look at snapshots. |
| 07:48.47 | cahoot | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-11/changelog |
| 07:50.56 | Supaplex | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18.dfsg.1-11/changelog#versionversion2.6.18-8 |
| 07:51.00 | jetscreamer | rpc: no my advice was not useless |
| 07:51.10 | Supaplex | added 2.6.18.4 |
| 07:51.34 | tuvwx | multiuser screen.. nice.. http://aperiodic.net/screen/multiuser |
| 07:51.39 | maddash | Supaplex, cahoot: thanks. |
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| 07:52.52 | maddash | maybe i should just bypass 2.6.18 altogether in favor of 2.6.20 |
| 07:52.55 | jetscreamer | 2.6.18.1-11 |
| 07:53.40 | Supaplex | don't let the pretty version fool you :) |
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| 07:55.15 | maddash | Supaplex: but it's so shiny!! |
| 07:55.25 | fireba11 | lol |
| 07:55.27 | maddash | Supaplex: seriously, why do you say that? |
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| 07:58.23 | Supaplex | I've heard a few complaints about it. I'm happy to ride out 2.6.19.1 until I see a real reason to upgrade. |
| 07:58.46 | maddash | that's 2.6.19.1 vanilla, right? |
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| 08:00.07 | silya | Hi all! Where I must store scripts, that must run on network startup? /etc/network/if-up.d/* won't work |
| 08:00.51 | maddash | Supaplex: and why are you running .1? |
| 08:01.59 | maddash | silya: init.d? |
| 08:02.25 | maddash | silya: ie, `ls /etc/init.d/if*` |
| 08:02.43 | silya | And the 2nd question: in tc filter prio with heighest value lower than lowest value? 1 > 3? |
| 08:02.47 | willywoo | I'm reading that the Deb security team are no longer guaranteeing mozilla support in the future of etch -- I presume this includes firefox and thunderbird? |
| 08:02.58 | maddash | "tc filter prio"? |
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| 08:03.22 | silya | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.34 | willywoo | the statement in the debian.org upgrade pages is not entirely clear |
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| 08:04.20 | silya | tc filter add dev eth1 prio 0 protocol ip u32 match ip sport 3128 0xffff flowid 1:10 && tc filter add dev eth1 prio 1 protocol ip u32 match ip sport 3128 0xffff flowid 1:11 |
| 08:04.30 | silya | what will be applied? |
| 08:05.20 | maddash | no clue. consult man pages. |
| 08:06.24 | silya | and what about network? I need that on netstartup routes and other things applyed |
| 08:06.44 | silya | and I try store them in /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
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| 08:18.17 | creature | we/wc |
| 08:18.20 | creature | Bah. |
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| 08:19.19 | Supaplex | maddash: because I can. :) |
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| 08:24.37 | enouf | silya: maybe take a look "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" .. is this wireless related? If so install wireless-tools, which gives you if-pre-up.d, and some others |
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| 08:29.43 | enouf | willywoo: Debian forked off firememhog into iceweasel, because of some logo bullcrap (well, trademark, copyright, someshit .. gogo google), but more importantly that it doesn't allow debian to be able to supply security fixes right quick .. you'd be at the whim of mozilla.org to get around to fixing any new found vulnerabilities .. so |
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| 08:40.24 | unlink | linux is detecting my flash drive fine, and i can mount it no problem, but for some reason it's not getting automounted by gnome |
| 08:40.27 | unlink | why might that be the case? |
| 08:40.41 | Sithgunner | hi, im setting up an lvs (load balancer) using ipvsadm commands, and things do work, but whenever i connect to servers from within the load balancer itself to its own virtual ip which is set to forward to backend servers, it cant connect, im supposed do something to make that work? |
| 08:41.21 | unlink | duh, i turned it off in gnome-volume-properties! |
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| 08:42.03 | claudio_ | hola |
| 08:42.08 | liri | Sithgunner: could be misconfigured firewall or routing I guess. |
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| 08:42.25 | liri | Sithgunner: you can try at #heartbit, maybe they'll be kind enough to help. |
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| 08:42.45 | Sithgunner | hmm, i did make iptables to let it accept on input and forward , but i always get connection denied, although of course i can ping the local virtual ip |
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| 08:42.58 | Sithgunner | oh ok |
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| 08:43.07 | willywoo | enouf: thanks for the info -- not good - maybe I'll try opera ;-) |
| 08:43.25 | Sithgunner | i can make the connection to work from some other machine in the same network, but not directly from the balancer itself... |
| 08:43.28 | liri | Sithgunner: If you're at the load balancer itself why are you connecting to the vip instead of straight to one of the boxes? |
| 08:43.33 | adamt | i seem to have a problem with usb or udev - nothing happends when i attache devices, and there is no output from udevmonitor. What to do now? :-) |
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| 08:43.51 | liri | adamt: dmesg? /var/log/syslog? |
| 08:44.08 | Sithgunner | the reason i want to access the virtual ip is, there is a chance that sometimes the load balancer wants to send some email using the load balanced smtp server behind it |
| 08:44.14 | claudio_ | I'm trying to install a Windows driver with ndiswrapper but with all INFs files i get ``invalid driver''. What could be the problem? |
| 08:44.16 | adamt | liri: can i paste to lines here? |
| 08:44.21 | liri | adamt: when the device is plugged in run 'lsusb' - are there any results? |
| 08:44.27 | liri | adamt: pastebin is better. |
| 08:44.27 | claudio_ | Any idea/hint? |
| 08:44.35 | Sithgunner | and if i let it to send it to one of the boxes, then there isnt much reason to load balance =), since if it goes down, the mail wont reach to the other box if i speciy a specific box |
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| 08:45.01 | adamt | liri: http://pastebin.antistof.dk/142 |
| 08:45.21 | Sithgunner | i even tried making ipvsadm to forward 127.0.0.1:25 onto the backend port 25, but no luck |
| 08:45.51 | liri | adamt: what kind of a usb device is that? |
| 08:45.57 | Sithgunner | did u say #heartbeat? that room looks empty |
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| 08:46.30 | adamt | liri: a regular usb mouse. My Cellphone (usb mass storage doesn't work either) |
| 08:46.46 | adamt | there is zero power on the usb port |
| 08:47.52 | adamt | A couple of days ago, my computer suddenly rebooted after inserting an usb-device, and after that.. well.. usb not working |
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| 08:48.12 | adamt | but lspci still shows the usb-hubs. |
| 08:48.16 | adamt | /controllers |
| 08:48.28 | liri | adamt: so no usb devces are working? |
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| 08:48.37 | adamt | it seems so. |
| 08:48.56 | Sithgunner | in fact, actually i cant make it to connect from same network segment... from the real servers, i cant connect to port 25 on the load balanced virtual ip.. |
| 08:49.10 | liri | adamt: what kernel? |
| 08:49.12 | Sithgunner | from another network segment, things work pretty though |
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| 08:49.53 | liri | Sithgunner: maybe check your routing. |
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| 08:50.01 | adamt | liri: doesn't seem to matter. i tried both 2.6.18-4-686 and 2.6.18-3-686 (it used to work with 2.6.18-3-686) |
| 08:50.13 | liri | adamt: what about lsmod, does it show the usb modules?uhci_hcd, usbcore, etc.... |
| 08:50.18 | adamt | (btw.: i'm running testing) |
| 08:50.46 | adamt | liri: usbcore 112644 3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd |
| 08:51.02 | Sithgunner | i dont have any fancy routing for local segments though... |
| 08:51.02 | Sithgunner | it only says for 192.168.0.0/24, take eth0 |
| 08:51.08 | Sithgunner | maybe i try tcpdump again |
| 08:51.24 | liri | adamt: you should google a bit, try here http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/1/12/65 |
| 08:51.58 | dimir | Moin! |
| 08:52.37 | Sithgunner | why do i get 'connection refused' from the load balancer itself? |
| 08:52.38 | Sithgunner | tcpdump says 'box -> virtual ip', then 'virtual ip -> box', simply 2 lines saying i cant do it |
| 08:52.40 | adamt | liri: but this isn't 2.6.19, but yes, errors looks like mine. |
| 08:53.05 | Sithgunner | linux-ha guys are pretty silent.. |
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| 08:55.39 | Sithgunner | the way it sees is, from the virtual ip itself connecting to virtual ip, the redirection is not happening at all, as i see no packets going to the real server at all, but instantly getting dropped, and firewall has all rules accepted..., what the hell.. |
| 08:56.54 | Sithgunner | and i can telnet port 25 with the real servers ip though hmm.. |
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| 09:00.35 | Sithgunner | using gateway routing didnt help instead of nat... |
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| 09:02.36 | assasukasse | hi everyone, i am using etch but i found that gksudo is not available, is there a substitute for it? |
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| 09:05.02 | tuv | assasukasse, gksu ? |
| 09:05.31 | assasukasse | tuv i need gksudo, since i need to give an user root pwd w/o him know the root pwd |
| 09:05.54 | assasukasse | sudo is available, but gksudo no, so i was wondering if there is a substitute |
| 09:06.25 | tuv | assasukasse, gksudo is in the gksu package |
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| 09:06.45 | assasukasse | ah thanks tuv i was so dumb i didn't try it.. |
| 09:06.59 | tuv | assasukasse, apt-file helps |
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| 09:10.45 | assasukasse | tuv thanks now everything works, i changed the root password to a very complex one, and assigned every user some privileges in sudoers |
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| 09:11.02 | Mportnoy | anybody know how to remove the openvpn TAP/TUN device , when you install the pkg? |
| 09:11.36 | tuv | assasukasse, yw |
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| 09:15.35 | SmokeyD | Hey peple, I know it is not strictly a debian question but I don't know where to as else: |
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| 09:15.47 | SmokeyD | does anybody know a nice command line IMAP client |
| 09:16.11 | SmokeyD | I want to download my IMAP mail from my ISP to my debian machine each day to back it up |
| 09:16.33 | SmokeyD | as a cron job |
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| 09:17.10 | Gnea | SmokeyD: fetchmail |
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| 09:18.25 | SmokeyD | ok thanks Gnea |
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| 09:33.03 | SmokeyD | hmm Gnea, I don't think fetchmail is what I need. It forwards email from one server to another. I just want to download all email to an mbox format or something. It also does not allow me to say "download all folder of this IMAP account" and it forwards the emails to the INBOX of the new account so you loose the folder structure of the original IMAP account |
| 09:33.28 | silya | I need create variable in my shell script with many command. Howto declare it? |
| 09:33.42 | silya | comm1="ls /home ls /var" etc. |
| 09:33.44 | SmokeyD | variable=balue |
| 09:33.51 | silya | ^) |
| 09:33.52 | silya | :) |
| 09:33.56 | SmokeyD | echo $variable |
| 09:33.59 | silya | oh |
| 09:34.18 | SmokeyD | when assigning you don't use the $, when refering you do |
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| 09:35.11 | SmokeyD | silya, see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html |
| 09:35.23 | SmokeyD | and http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/AdvBashHowto/ |
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| 09:36.33 | justinhe | hi |
| 09:36.33 | justinhe | i am back again |
| 09:36.40 | justinhe | do you remember me ? i am marian ! |
| 09:37.54 | fluxdude | could somebody explain to me exactly what "Buffers" is when you run "top"? |
| 09:38.00 | h3xis | are you the marian that slept with my wife |
| 09:38.05 | fluxdude | i read it is application space, but I'm not clear on this |
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| 09:45.12 | slyksus | hi everyone |
| 09:45.19 | slyksus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.29 | slyksus | I can't see nst0 in /dev |
| 09:45.35 | slyksus | can somebody help me? |
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| 09:47.51 | claudio_ | Does anyone use a Ralink WiFi USB adapter? |
| 09:48.05 | ivl_ | cannot debootstrap for mips. 'I: Validating Packages\nW: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-mips/Packages.gz was corrupt'. And this is the same for all official mirrors I've tried. |
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| 09:49.20 | [Nige] | hi all |
| 09:49.54 | [Nige] | I have quick questions, if I want to allow all ssh connections to a box, but deny all others in iptables whats the best way to do this? |
| 09:50.14 | [Nige] | iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -p 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 09:50.29 | [Nige] | iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -j DROP |
| 09:50.32 | petemc | [Nige]: what other services are running on the machine? |
| 09:50.45 | [Nige] | wont that drop everything all together |
| 09:51.06 | [Nige] | all I want petemc is 80, ftp (internal - I specified that with a private ip), ssh, |
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| 09:54.48 | [Nige] | petemc, any ideas? |
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| 09:56.26 | quelo | Hi to all |
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| 09:57.39 | quelo | I need for a set of floppy disks to netinst debian etch on my pc but I can't find them on the site of debian can anyone help me? |
| 09:58.02 | [Nige] | okay |
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| 09:58.20 | [Nige] | that works, but adding a iptables -A INPUT -j REJECT |
| 09:58.23 | [Nige] | ssh is slow now |
| 09:58.30 | [Nige] | even for local traffic :S |
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| 10:05.04 | uptownben | Flimsy , you around? |
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| 10:06.15 | uptownben | anybody have any luck with Flimzy's Debian on USB quick install? |
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| 10:18.34 | justinhe__ | hi |
| 10:18.40 | justinhe__ | what is the time |
| 10:19.30 | Grub_Now | where? |
| 10:19.43 | petemc | the continuum of experience in which events pass from the future through the present to the past |
| 10:20.23 | justinhe__ | Grub_Now, the place where you live |
| 10:20.35 | [Nige] | if I have script, how do I add it to start up...is it update-rc ? |
| 10:20.44 | uptownben | Anyone seen Flimzy around? |
| 10:20.52 | Grub_Now | justinhe__: 15:00 |
| 10:20.55 | Grub_Now | :P |
| 10:21.08 | MarcoPau | hey I can't really see the shared directory from my windoze box. Can anybody maybe check my smb.conf at http://channels.debian.net/paste/5540 ? Thanks a lot |
| 10:21.17 | uptownben | better question: anyone have any luck with his Debian on USB instructions? |
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| 10:23.49 | PeanutHorst | hi - in which debian package is autoreconf? |
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| 10:24.10 | uptownben | Maybe someone here can answer a question for me about a Debian on USB install... actually about debootstrap: I formatted my "drive", set up ext2 and mounted it under /mnt/chroot/boot, if I want to run debootstrap on it , shouldnt I be running debootstrap on the /mnt/chroot/boot directory? and not the /mnt/chroot directory? |
| 10:24.21 | PeanutHorst | i'm on a debian box and i really don' tknow how to get autoreconf onto it |
| 10:24.34 | Tallu | hmm |
| 10:25.12 | Kvant | maybe in the pkg autoconf ? |
| 10:25.58 | sepski | uptownben, you should run it on the partition that will be the root of the system in question if it's mounted as /mnt/chroot/boot then that's where you want it. |
| 10:26.26 | justinhe__ | Grub_Now, hi,but i am from Mars |
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| 10:26.37 | Grub_Now | justinhe__: i thought so too |
| 10:26.38 | justinhe__ | there is no time recorder |
| 10:26.41 | scv | ... |
| 10:26.59 | justinhe__ | so , i dont know the time here |
| 10:27.09 | Grub_Now | right |
| 10:27.22 | justinhe__ | :P |
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| 10:27.57 | vinboy | hi |
| 10:28.00 | justinhe__ | ? |
| 10:28.05 | justinhe__ | vinboy, hi |
| 10:28.08 | vinboy | can I install experimental package in sarge? |
| 10:28.14 | scv | you got the watch now |
| 10:28.15 | justinhe__ | what can i help ? |
| 10:28.22 | justinhe__ | yes you can |
| 10:28.28 | vinboy | cool.. thx dude |
| 10:28.38 | fireba11 | vinboy: and no, it's not a good idea |
| 10:28.38 | justinhe__ | dude ? |
| 10:28.41 | vinboy | by the way, i had problem compiling kernel |
| 10:29.04 | vinboy | fireba11: i use experimental package for casual thing such as mp3 etc.. |
| 10:29.34 | justinhe__ | you need to install some codes about MP3 |
| 10:29.52 | justinhe__ | there is the packages on unbutu servers |
| 10:30.22 | vinboy | ok |
| 10:30.41 | vinboy | thx |
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| 10:32.28 | vinboy | i'm installing debian, should I install etch or sarge?? i usually this pc for daily work only.. nothing crritical |
| 10:32.39 | vinboy | i want bleeding edge application |
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| 10:33.27 | ma3x | does anybody with amarok+kde experience system freeze? |
| 10:33.30 | Danielss89 | hi, ive just try installing php5, libapache2-mod-php5 but it doesnt work.. |
| 10:33.49 | Danielss89 | theres no php5.load and.conf in the mods-available folder.. |
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| 10:34.30 | Danielss89 | i kind a think that its those which is missing.. |
| 10:34.32 | Danielss89 | what should i do |
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| 10:35.18 | karsten | Danielss89: Panicking is always high on my list. |
| 10:35.24 | ma3x | karsten: how ya doin |
| 10:35.43 | karsten | Danielss89: check under /etc/apache or /etc/apache2. Should be a subdir for php or link to same. |
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| 10:36.09 | karsten | Danielss89: Under conf.d/ IIRC. |
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| 10:36.46 | Danielss89 | hmm karsten it works now.. i had to --purge remove it.. |
| 10:36.57 | karsten | OK. |
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| 10:37.06 | karsten | Also helps to restart/reload apache. |
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| 10:44.32 | sugoruyo | hi all, i was wondering if someone can help get some up to date software repositories set in etch |
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| 10:49.34 | Ronin | !mirrors |
| 10:49.34 | dpkg | from memory, debian mirrors is use apt-setup if you are running sarge, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror, or ask me about <apt-spy> |
| 10:50.31 | vinboy | is debian unstable more up to date compared to ubuntu? |
| 10:51.34 | Ronin | vinboy: that assumes we know what ubuntu is doing |
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| 10:52.01 | vinboy | what do u mean |
| 10:52.12 | vinboy | do u guys dislike ubuntu? |
| 10:52.42 | Ronin | vinboy: dislike? likely no, tired of being asked about it in #debian, most certainly yes |
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| 10:53.06 | vinboy | ok |
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| 10:53.17 | Ronin | in fact ubuntu is usually the distro i suggest at first to new linux users followed by when you get your feet wet come see me and we'll install debian |
| 10:54.00 | vinboy | i'll tried gentoo (very good, i love bleeding edge apps, but too much effort to maintin), tried ubuntu (easy to maintain, but packages are many versions out of date from upstream)) |
| 10:54.17 | vinboy | i hope debian is the one, since it has so largest pool of apps |
| 10:54.24 | EdwardElric | yea...gentoo is hell to keep up hehe |
| 10:54.27 | Ronin | ahh you suffer from bleeding edge syndrome |
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| 10:54.34 | vinboy | maybe not as bleeding edge as gentoo, but should be good enough |
| 10:54.41 | sugoruyo | same as me |
| 10:54.42 | Kevin` | debian is not something you commonly use for bleeding edge |
| 10:54.51 | EdwardElric | ;) |
| 10:54.52 | Tallu | I've somewhat gotten over my bleeding edge syndrome. ;) |
| 10:54.56 | vinboy | well i'm installing unstable |
| 10:55.05 | vinboy | Tallu: are u running windows 3.1 |
| 10:55.10 | Ronin | vinboy: can you fix it WHEN it breaks? without help i mean |
| 10:55.12 | Tallu | vinboy: dos 6.22 |
| 10:55.22 | vinboy | Ronin: what breaks? |
| 10:55.25 | vinboy | oh.. |
| 10:55.28 | vinboy | it shouldn't break |
| 10:55.40 | Tallu | unstable is what the name suggests |
| 10:55.40 | vinboy | if it does, i'll reinstall SUSE linux |
| 10:55.49 | Tallu | it's not stable |
| 10:55.50 | Ronin | well itsnot called unstable for no reason |
| 10:55.52 | vinboy | oh... actually i'm installing Eft, testing |
| 10:55.54 | vinboy | sorry |
| 10:56.15 | vinboy | i always thought it's stable->unstable->testing |
| 10:56.17 | vinboy | lol |
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| 10:56.33 | Ronin | stable-testing-unstable-holy crap its volitale |
| 10:57.15 | vinboy | if i have better internet i would have give SUSE linux a go |
| 10:57.16 | RvGaTe | vinboy, you do not want that "holy crap" version |
| 10:57.27 | vinboy | is there such version? |
| 10:57.42 | Ronin | then run suse vinboy |
| 10:57.55 | RvGaTe | its the veersion on wich you install everything manually, without the use of apt-get |
| 10:57.58 | vinboy | mepis looks pretty good too, but it uses debian repository anyway.. |
| 10:58.11 | vinboy | RvGaTe: that sounds like gentoo |
| 10:58.28 | vinboy | maybe worse |
| 10:58.28 | RvGaTe | like i said: you do not want that :P |
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| 11:00.32 | vinboy | well i think the debian guys are friendlier too |
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| 11:00.59 | vinboy | i had 1% corruption in my stage3 download just now and no one in gentoo was willing to help |
| 11:01.18 | Ronin | vinboy: willing or awake? |
| 11:01.29 | vinboy | willing |
| 11:01.36 | vinboy | they started talking crap |
| 11:01.41 | vinboy | but nothing useful |
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| 11:02.00 | Ronin | ya? that can happen on any distro in any irc channel too, should see us somedays |
| 11:02.07 | vinboy | lol |
| 11:02.08 | vinboy | ok |
| 11:02.11 | Ronin | just be patient and wait for it to calm down and try again |
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| 11:02.49 | Ronin | vinboy: you do know we're not exactly know for bleeding edge apps right? |
| 11:03.03 | vinboy | yes i know that |
| 11:03.15 | vinboy | but i see some quite up to date packages in experimental |
| 11:03.20 | Ronin | and no im not trying to talk anyone out of trying debian |
| 11:03.21 | vinboy | i'm after those one |
| 11:03.22 | vinboy | :D |
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| 11:03.42 | Ronin | like i said you run that you best be ready for breakages and be able to fix it all by your lonesome |
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| 11:03.54 | vinboy | haha |
| 11:04.00 | vinboy | yea.. i'll give it a go anyway |
| 11:04.04 | vinboy | thx for warning |
| 11:04.17 | vinboy | i don't think there'll be more breakage than gentoo |
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| 11:04.48 | sugoruyo | ok, i'm pretty new to debian so please help me understand: i want gnome 2.16, the mirrors have it but in synaptic it don't show up. somehow i think i don't have a good grip on how the packaging works in debian |
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| 11:04.56 | loesh | a quick question: can you browse the apt-get repositories online somewhere? basically what i want is to be able to check package versions included in diffrent versions of debian |
| 11:05.15 | vinboy | sugoruyo: maybe you're using stable only? |
| 11:05.21 | sugoruyo | etch |
| 11:05.27 | hark | !tell loesh about pdo |
| 11:05.31 | vinboy | loesh: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 11:05.41 | hark | sugoruyo: gnome 2.16 is not in debian yet.. |
| 11:05.44 | vinboy | !tell vinboyabout pdo |
| 11:05.47 | loesh | thanks :) |
| 11:05.55 | naiv | i'm looking for an free anonyme http proxy with cookies support since an hour, anyone got one please ? |
| 11:06.06 | sugoruyo | i see it in the mirrors though... |
| 11:06.06 | vinboy | gnome 2.16 is not in debian yet? are you serious? |
| 11:06.11 | loesh | <-- planning on merging from gentoo to debian |
| 11:06.17 | hark | naiv: wrong channel.. google it |
| 11:06.23 | vinboy | loesh: we r on the same boat |
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| 11:06.41 | Trewas | sugoruyo: gnome 2.16 is in experimental only |
| 11:06.51 | sugoruyo | i see |
| 11:06.52 | loesh | vinboy, yea |
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| 11:07.10 | hark | sugoruyo: most of it is in experimental though, maybe somewhat complete for amd64 only iirc |
| 11:07.13 | vinboy | loesh: get it from experimental and let me know if it breaks |
| 11:07.15 | vinboy | :P |
| 11:07.22 | sugoruyo | so even though i see it in the FTP i don't get 'cause i'm running testing |
| 11:07.55 | hark | sugoruyo: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.16-status.html |
| 11:08.00 | Trewas | vinboy: packaging gnome 2.16 was delayed because it had some issues and it was decided that they would not get fixed in time for the release of etch in december |
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| 11:08.34 | loesh | vinboy, i am at work atm so will not be atempting any installs in a while, just researching a bit |
| 11:08.37 | vinboy | Trewas: ic.. cant they just put it in the repos after they get fixed? |
| 11:09.17 | hark | after etch gets released |
| 11:09.19 | loesh | atm my main concerns is java versions, good thing is that they are pretty easy to maintain out of the packaging system, that is install and maintain them manually |
| 11:09.29 | Trewas | vinboy: the bugs are fixed now, but etch is frozen and the release managers may not want such large upload |
| 11:09.49 | sugoruyo | hark, thanks how can i find more information about the stuff i want? |
| 11:11.05 | vinboy | i seee.. |
| 11:11.43 | loesh | am i correct about the fact that debian stable does not include any java sdk in its package repository? |
| 11:12.34 | hark | you can use java-package for that. /msg dpkg install java |
| 11:13.07 | vinboy | wow. i'm reading about sidux |
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| 11:13.21 | vinboy | http://sidux.com/Article2.html |
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| 11:18.08 | Onore_e_Gloria | hi |
| 11:18.28 | vinboy | the kde version in testing and unstable is 3.4.3 ? |
| 11:19.02 | Onore_e_Gloria | i've a problem with alsamixer end my microphone |
| 11:19.06 | sugoruyo | ok, this must be getting annoying to you guys but I need to know (since I'm generally new to linux) whether debian etch is in general behind the current versions or not |
| 11:19.16 | sugoruyo | I don't care about having the bleeding edge |
| 11:19.47 | sugoruyo | but i need some hardware support which ubuntu gave me out of the box (i don't really like ubuntu though) |
| 11:19.52 | Onore_e_Gloria | nobody can help me with alsamixer? |
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| 11:20.08 | sugoruyo | like cpu frequency scaling |
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| 11:25.43 | eisen | you can always use a newer kernel as you see fit. |
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| 11:28.12 | yang | is there any GPS software made for debian? |
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| 11:30.41 | sugoruyo | eisen, where you talking to me? |
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| 11:31.37 | eisen | sugoruyo: yeah |
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| 11:32.22 | sugoruyo | can you elaborate a bit? i mean how can i use a newer kernel that isn't coming through apt-get synaptic or whatever? |
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| 11:33.10 | eisen | sugoruyo: you download the source and do the make-kpkg thing |
| 11:33.24 | eisen | it's not that difficult actually |
| 11:33.30 | sugoruyo | hmmm, haven't even heard of it though |
| 11:33.36 | vinboy | i got an error when i tried to compile my kernel :( |
| 11:33.56 | sugoruyo | my main problem in debian is the fact that when i go to the official website for info |
| 11:34.05 | eisen | but the stock kernel is rather current now as are the packages |
| 11:34.26 | eisen | still, once etch goes stable it will be getting old eventually |
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| 11:34.34 | sugoruyo | the stuff there usually says things like "if you are thinking about migrating to woody" |
| 11:34.45 | eisen | using testing is a good compromise |
| 11:34.57 | sugoruyo | i mean isn't woody the previous version from sarge which is the previous from etch? |
| 11:35.03 | eisen | yeah |
| 11:35.08 | sugoruyo | and there's no date on them docs |
| 11:35.39 | sugoruyo | i have to read halfway through (being a newbie) to realise it's talking about 2-3 versions back |
| 11:35.45 | sugoruyo | it doesn't help much... |
| 11:35.52 | eisen | testing is not far behind ubuntu if that helps you |
| 11:36.11 | phogg | sugoruyo: link to that page please? |
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| 11:36.26 | sugoruyo | i keep getting this feeling that debian is meant for people who already know, not people who want to learn on it |
| 11:36.35 | sugoruyo | phogg, what with the outdated article? |
| 11:36.59 | eisen | there's a good handbook for debian though |
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| 11:37.51 | hark | sugoruyo: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 11:37.54 | sugoruyo | eisen, i'm mostly looking for up to date docs to get into learning linux, forums and irc usually are too clogged with specific problems |
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| 11:39.10 | sugoruyo | hark, seems like a good place to start, although i've read the install guide |
| 11:39.23 | vinboy | sugoruyo: try gentoo if you really want to learn linux |
| 11:39.24 | sugoruyo | i'll start by checking the others though --thanks |
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| 11:40.10 | sugoruyo | vinboy, i think i'm sticking with debian for now i'm not a fan of the gentoo guys |
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| 11:40.47 | hark | !gentoosmite vinboy |
| 11:41.31 | vinboy | 0.7% is pretty good |
| 11:41.36 | scv | 400 x 0.7% = ??? |
| 11:41.49 | vinboy | i barely notice the difference when i spent days recompiling |
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| 11:42.30 | sugoruyo | i run on a C2D the i386 release and etch really flies |
| 11:42.32 | scv | in a base system, there are about 400 packages |
| 11:42.47 | eisen | the speed benefits of gentoo are a myth basically |
| 11:43.09 | scv | it's not a myth, it's the common sense |
| 11:43.29 | eisen | well, my experience defies common sense then ;-) |
| 11:43.33 | sugoruyo | i mean the Core 2 Duo and 1GB run most OSes pretty good but Etch actually feels a lot faster than anything |
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| 11:43.51 | eisen | I used gentoo for 4 years and finally got fed up with all the mess |
| 11:44.00 | scv | lol |
| 11:44.13 | sugoruyo | i think the difference in execution speed provided by optimized compiles from gentoo is not worth the trouble for most uses |
| 11:44.38 | sugoruyo | the freedom to tweak it may be worth it as a learning resource or otherwise |
| 11:44.51 | scv | gentoo is too hard, give LFS a try |
| 11:45.08 | loesh | LFS is.. fun |
| 11:45.15 | loesh | used it waaay back before gentoo existed.. |
| 11:45.27 | loesh | at least i learned somethings from it.. |
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| 11:45.43 | scv | there are too many commands in the gentoo |
| 11:45.54 | scv | LFS is easier |
| 11:45.54 | twisted` | ey, I'm having some weird problems with my debian box... it's a IBM 206m with SATA, now when I have one disk in it it works fine... but if I insert a second disk (it has 4 slots) debian will return a kernel panic, which is odd cause the post screen shows that my root is still hd0 |
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| 11:46.06 | twisted` | now I googled some and all I got back are french websites |
| 11:46.41 | sugoruyo | ok, I have a question about hardware support |
| 11:46.46 | scv | and debian is harder than gentoo |
| 11:47.19 | Ronin | *snicker* |
| 11:47.20 | scv | you have to upgrade your command cache per year |
| 11:47.32 | scv | hahaha |
| 11:47.56 | sugoruyo | i'm running on a Core 2 Duo which to my understanding is a 64-bit processor, so logic says the amd64 release should do better (or won't it)? |
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| 11:48.15 | sugoruyo | i'm not concerned about speed benefits, more about hardware support |
| 11:48.43 | eisen | the only real advantage I see immediately would be if you have lots of ram. |
| 11:48.46 | sugoruyo | like the ICH8R, cpu freq scaling and stuff |
| 11:48.55 | twisted` | sugoruyo: the c2d arch is completely different then the amd64 arch |
| 11:49.17 | sugoruyo | yes but there is no different release for the c2d |
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| 11:51.03 | sugoruyo | will running the amd64 release provide me with better hw support or is it the same thing? |
| 11:51.20 | vinboy | why is there a debian directory in the kernel source tree? |
| 11:51.58 | sugoruyo | will i get different drivers or support for more CPU features or is it just a "recompile" sort of speak? |
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| 11:52.15 | eisen | there's a kernel image for intel 64 I believe |
| 11:52.28 | RvGaTe | How can i safely remove other kernel images (that i dont use) that are displayed in grub? the list keeps getting longer and longer after each kernel update... |
| 11:52.57 | vinboy | what is the wine version in debian's testing/unstable? |
| 11:53.23 | hark | !tell vinboy -about search |
| 11:53.43 | sepski | RvGaTe, remove them like any other package. |
| 11:53.51 | sepski | RvGaTe, just dont remove the one your using :) |
| 11:53.56 | hark | sugoruyo: no, it's if you want to go 64 bit |
| 11:55.04 | sugoruyo | hark, so basically the stuff i want can also be had in the i386 release i just have to figure out how to get them |
| 11:55.24 | hark | figure out? |
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| 11:56.29 | sugoruyo | well i don't know how to get them, so i have to figure it out i guess |
| 11:56.45 | sugoruyo | which package does what, how to install it, set it up etc |
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| 11:57.44 | hark | ah. but you've used ubuntu.. almost the same thing |
| 11:58.06 | sugoruyo | almost, but ubuntu had those things from the moment i installed |
| 11:58.18 | sugoruyo | so i never knew what it takes to get them in there |
| 11:58.43 | vinboy | true |
| 11:58.53 | vinboy | me too want to know what fonts to install and other bits and pieces |
| 11:59.03 | eisen | sugoruyo: you just install the amd64 release. amd64 is also for intels. |
| 11:59.18 | eisen | the desktop task should set it up nicely |
| 11:59.21 | dererk[work] | Good morning there |
| 11:59.33 | dererk[work] | morning/evening/afternoon :) |
| 11:59.42 | vinboy | it's midnight |
| 11:59.48 | dererk[work] | hehehe |
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| 11:59.56 | vinboy | good that u have work |
| 11:59.57 | dererk[work] | astralia? |
| 12:00.04 | vinboy | new zealand |
| 12:00.08 | dererk[work] | australia* |
| 12:00.18 | dererk[work] | oh, right next to it :P |
| 12:00.31 | dererk[work] | vinboy, yesterday I was about to become one |
| 12:00.39 | vinboy | lol |
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| 12:00.51 | dererk[work] | fortunatelly I manage to calm myself down |
| 12:00.52 | vinboy | did u upgrade the company's linux box to debian unstable |
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| 12:01.10 | vinboy | so why do u work at nite? |
| 12:01.23 | dererk[work] | hehe, it's 9am here :) |
| 12:01.25 | slapaf | hi, anybody know a tool for sync content on 6 debian webservers? |
| 12:01.30 | vinboy | oh |
| 12:01.41 | slapaf | behind a loadbalancer... |
| 12:01.42 | dererk[work] | slapaf, like rsync? |
| 12:01.49 | slapaf | yea, i tried rsync |
| 12:01.53 | dererk[work] | and? |
| 12:02.00 | vinboy | rsync is as simple as it gets |
| 12:02.02 | dererk[work] | it wasn't what you needed? |
| 12:02.05 | slapaf | but i run it manually 5 times..cause of passwor |
| 12:02.06 | slapaf | d |
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| 12:02.41 | slapaf | i was thinking of a tool/script where i write paths and then it syncs all in one go |
| 12:02.42 | dererk[work] | you can set up rsync server to allow host/mask/ip without password, slapaf |
| 12:02.53 | slapaf | with ssh_keys? |
| 12:03.01 | dererk[work] | no, it's on rsync config |
| 12:03.09 | slapaf | oh, didnt know that |
| 12:03.44 | slapaf | cheers, i'll look at rsync docs again then |
| 12:03.44 | dererk[work] | Hope it solves your problem up |
| 12:03.50 | dererk[work] | good luck |
| 12:04.05 | slapaf | yes, it should, i gave up the script cause of tht |
| 12:04.12 | dererk[work] | :) |
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| 12:05.57 | vinboy | head over to ubuntu, ppl are asking noob questions |
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| 12:06.06 | vinboy | these ppl sounds cute |
| 12:06.10 | vinboy | sound like small kiddie |
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| 12:06.58 | dererk[work] | lol |
| 12:07.23 | dererk[work] | I give up arguing with bubuntu lusers |
| 12:07.52 | dererk[work] | It's simply senseless |
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| 12:08.53 | dererk[work] | hours and hours lost trying to explain them things like "What it's free?" or "Community != Company" |
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| 12:11.14 | dererk[work] | * fumanchu se ha marchado (Quit: i don't have hard drives. i just keep 30 chinese teenagers in my basement and force them to memorize numbers) |
| 12:11.19 | dererk[work] | ^^^^^ LOL! |
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| 12:11.57 | jae | Someone have an idea about automake/bison/c++? I feel like a complete idiot... |
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| 12:13.52 | dererk[work] | jae, If it helps, I dunno anything about it, and I'm a real idiot |
| 12:14.20 | slapaf | jae, what do you want to know about it ? |
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| 12:14.54 | jae | How to get the crap to work |
| 12:15.56 | slapaf | to compile your own program or ? |
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| 12:16.04 | vinboy | cool.. i'm compiling my kernel, it didnt work before |
| 12:16.32 | solemnwarning | Are there any decent programs for drawing graphs? |
| 12:16.39 | slapaf | i've used them to compile php but i usually just follow a howto |
| 12:16.54 | twisted` | ok even in the installer it doesn't detect my harddrives |
| 12:17.02 | twisted` | weird cause... knoppix does and ubuntu livecd does too |
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| 12:17.52 | vinboy | i'm running eft (testing), how do I install packages in unstable, gnome 2.16? |
| 12:17.57 | jae | Writing my own grammer |
| 12:18.04 | jae | I know what I'm doing |
| 12:18.11 | manimi | how can i configure the audio output driver for flash plugin? |
| 12:18.11 | hark | install autobook |
| 12:18.14 | jae | I just have no idea what automake is doing |
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| 12:18.43 | manimi | I mean if i dont want flash to use alsa, how can i set it to use oss? |
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| 12:19.00 | jae | Like, somehow it keeps bison from creating files it should create... and it does, if I call it manually |
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| 12:19.17 | jae | But from make, no dice |
| 12:19.26 | manimi | vinboy: what exactly do you want to do? |
| 12:19.28 | slapaf | oh ok |
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| 12:19.49 | jae | I was actually in the shrinking minority that likes automake |
| 12:19.50 | slapaf | jae, sorry, dont enough bout automake to help then |
| 12:20.02 | slapaf | lol |
| 12:20.06 | jae | But too much automatism fucks your building up |
| 12:20.06 | vinboy | manimi: install gnome 2.16 on my debian eft |
| 12:20.22 | manimi | eft? |
| 12:20.25 | slapaf | osunds like its shriking for a reason then ^^ |
| 12:21.15 | jae | If the tool does too many thing "automagically" it will bite you, sooner or later... hopefully later, but it will |
| 12:21.35 | jae | Building software needs control, and automatic shit takes that away |
| 12:21.53 | elshaa | hoz can I get informations about the user or the group from the uid or gid ? (without editing any file) |
| 12:22.08 | slapaf | thats true |
| 12:22.59 | jae | It's cool to have something "just work"... but it gets hair-raising if it stops working |
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| 12:23.04 | slapaf | but if you have contributed to automake you might have access to other developers? |
| 12:23.17 | jae | Because then many things are just too opaque to actually sensibly debug them |
| 12:23.20 | jae | cf Windows |
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| 12:23.56 | jae | Wow, that was *looong* ago... and I know I'm pretty cross with the autoconf maintainer, so... :P |
| 12:24.06 | slapaf | ^^ |
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| 12:25.03 | slapaf | everybody wants auto-features but things get 10 times more complicated when implemented |
| 12:25.12 | slapaf | same problem all over |
| 12:25.30 | tenzing_ | hi ... how can i configure my debian computer as a router with NAT? |
| 12:25.45 | jae | The trouble is, it *looks* simple, and is, on the surface |
| 12:25.54 | jae | And for many/most things (depending) |
| 12:26.19 | jae | But you start to do something "exotic" (depending... ;), and it all goes to hell |
| 12:26.32 | slapaf | yea, i know the feeling =/ |
| 12:27.10 | jae | Folks complain about automake being complicated... but, let's face it kids (yes, kids), building software *is* complicated |
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| 12:27.33 | jae | No-one expects flying an airplane to be easy or simple... because it isn't |
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| 12:27.58 | petemc | tenzing_: modprobe iptable_nat && echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward && iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 12:28.05 | slapaf | true, i stopped trying toexplain it manger/sales team long ago |
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| 12:28.19 | jae | :) |
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| 12:29.11 | sidjster | installing beryl and ati drivers is killing me |
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| 12:31.53 | tenzing_ | petemc: thanks |
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| 12:32.15 | petemc | np |
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| 12:35.13 | assasukasse | for setting up apache, i just install apache2 packages and the libapache2 php then start with /etc/init.d/apache start? |
| 12:35.24 | assasukasse | how do i set up for autostart |
| 12:35.27 | jayeola | hey guys. installation on a box with two disks. not as simple as a one disk box cos i dunno where to put /boot and /root. any tips out there? |
| 12:35.48 | petemc | assasukasse: you'll want apache2-mpm-prefork for using with php |
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| 12:35.55 | petemc | assasukasse: the default install should start on boot |
| 12:36.07 | jayeola | i know that i should use lvm but i'd prefer to put /boot and /root on an ext3 partition |
| 12:36.09 | assasukasse | petemc, thanks, so i remove apache2 package? |
| 12:36.16 | vinboy | how long does it take for package in experimental to move to unstable, then testing? |
| 12:36.18 | petemc | assasukasse: try just installing apache2-mpm-prefork |
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| 12:36.39 | petemc | jayeola: would it not make sense to put them on the first disk? |
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| 12:37.24 | jayeola | petemc: i've thought of that. say /boot = 100mb, /root = 10gb on first disk... |
| 12:37.44 | jayeola | ... then use remainder of first disk and all of the 2nd disk as lvm? |
| 12:37.50 | petemc | sounds ok to me |
| 12:37.55 | jayeola | :) sweet! |
| 12:37.57 | assasukasse | thanks petemc how do i tell apache where is the webserver folder? should i make another user called www for example for increased security? |
| 12:38.13 | petemc | assasukasse: thats already handled |
| 12:38.24 | jayeola | i -kinda- knew what to do. a second opinion is always nice! |
| 12:38.32 | jayeola | thanks! |
| 12:38.53 | assasukasse | petemc, thans, then i need only to know where is the folder (or the config file) |
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| 12:39.05 | petemc | assasukasse: /etc/apache2/ |
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| 12:39.15 | petemc | assasukasse: you might want to read up on how it works tho |
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| 12:40.34 | assasukasse | petemc, i have been using the windows one for years...now i migrated to linux |
| 12:40.43 | petemc | assasukasse: superb |
| 12:40.54 | petemc | you'll still want to read the docs... |
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| 12:41.42 | assasukasse | petemc, i wish i could have a folder in /home instead of / because my / has limited space, i will see how to do with it...what about php it starts itself or i have to add the module manually in apache2.conf like in the window version |
| 12:41.52 | petemc | assasukasse: you can have whatever you want |
| 12:42.06 | petemc | assasukasse: for the third time, read the docs |
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| 12:42.21 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.38 | assasukasse | im on it :D |
| 12:42.50 | vinboy | !unstable |
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| 12:42.50 | dpkg | hmm... unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
| 12:44.08 | assasukasse | uhm petemc seems i don't have the docs there only changelog.gz file.. |
| 12:45.27 | phogg | assasukasse: you canalways remove /var/www and make it a symlink to wherever you like |
| 12:45.27 | petemc | assasukasse: there should be multiple apache dirs in /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 12:48.58 | assasukasse | petemc, seems not there, doesn't matter i will find docs on internet |
| 12:49.13 | petemc | assasukasse: there isnt an apache2-common dir? |
| 12:49.23 | assasukasse | yep |
| 12:49.30 | petemc | and in that? |
| 12:49.44 | assasukasse | but only changelog.gz debian-changelog.gz /examples stuff inside |
| 12:49.53 | petemc | no README files? |
| 12:51.28 | assasukasse | unfortunately not and i dunno why |
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| 12:56.15 | thartman | How do I can I tell if a particular debian flavor has support for 64 bit? uname -m tells me if the machine has a 64 bit chip (I hope), but I don't know how to tell if the OS I'm on takes advantage of that. |
| 12:56.46 | xand | uname -a |
| 12:56.48 | xand | er |
| 12:56.53 | xand | does that say amd64? |
| 12:56.55 | assasukasse | who should be the owner of the directory in order for apache to work? |
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| 12:57.01 | thartman | is amd64 the only one? |
| 12:57.01 | litb | hi all! |
| 12:57.06 | tarzeau | thartman: cat /proc/cpuinfo will show if you have 64bit or not |
| 12:57.14 | litb | i need to have the 3bit emulation libs of gtk+-2.0 |
| 12:57.16 | xand | tarzeau: that's not the kernel though is it |
| 12:57.23 | tarzeau | thartman: mips and alpha are too, besides ultrasparc |
| 12:57.24 | litb | where can i apt-get them and how? |
| 12:57.27 | tarzeau | xand: no it's not |
| 12:57.32 | thartman | yeah, but you can have a 64 bit cpu but a debian distro that doesn't take advantage of that, can't you? |
| 12:58.29 | thartman | uname -a; cat /proc/version |
| 12:58.30 | thartman | Linux sql2 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 #1 Sun Oct 2 21:26:54 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:58.31 | thartman | Linux version 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 (root@defiant) (gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-13)) #1 Sun Oct 2 21:26:54 UTC 2005 |
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| 12:58.50 | thartman | the guy I'm working with says this is a non-64 bit debian, though the cpu is 64 bit. |
| 12:58.54 | thartman | is he right? |
| 12:59.09 | xand | tarzeau: well that's what he asked |
| 12:59.18 | sepski | thartman, 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 is the 64bit kernel atleast |
| 12:59.26 | xand | thartman: that's a 64-bit kernel |
| 12:59.26 | sepski | do you use the 64 bit userspace ? |
| 12:59.38 | thartman | I don't know what userspace is. |
| 13:00.03 | elshaa | how can I easily get the sum of a file size in a directory ? (excluding all sub-dir) |
| 13:00.16 | sepski | thartman, did you install using the amd64cd's ? or use the i386 cd's but installed a 64bit kernel afterwards ? |
| 13:00.27 | sepski | elshaa, man du |
| 13:00.43 | thartman | sepski: I inherited a heterogenous collection of servers, and am trying to figure out what's what... |
| 13:01.26 | thartman | matters because I have to install oracle install client, and there's a 64 bit and 32 bit version, and I've never been really sure which one should go on which, and tired of trial and error. |
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| 13:02.04 | thartman | sepski: shouldn't I be able to tell which install method was used via uname or cat /proc/version or some such? |
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| 13:02.22 | thartman | elshaa: du -sh maybe. |
| 13:02.44 | sepski | thartman, userspace is all the files/libs/tools/etc/etc |
| 13:03.18 | sepski | thartman, and you can have a 32bit userspace and a 64bit kernel |
| 13:03.28 | sepski | but not the other way around :) |
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| 13:06.10 | sepski | thartman, ls /var/cache/apt/archive |
| 13:06.17 | MarcoPau | how do I set the workgroup name? |
| 13:06.20 | sepski | check the filenames |
| 13:06.35 | sepski | marcels, edit the samba config |
| 13:07.02 | thartman | elshaa: find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs du |
| 13:08.05 | thartman | sepski: no such file or dir. |
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| 13:09.43 | anapivirtua | Hi all. |
| 13:10.33 | thartman | elshaa: find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs du | perl -ane 'print "$F[0]\n" gives you line delimited file sizes. |
| 13:10.49 | thartman | elshaa: figure out a way to add those up, and I think there's your solution. |
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| 13:11.17 | elshaa | thanks thartman |
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| 13:11.49 | thartman | welcome :) |
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| 13:14.05 | Zarephath | Morning..I have created some dvd.iso images. I am wondering how I would go about being able to right click them and mount them so they can be played back with mplayer,kaffeine, etc.? |
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| 13:17.01 | sepski | thartman, ls /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 13:17.04 | thartman | elshaa: here's the sum |
| 13:17.08 | thartman | find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs du | perl -ane 'print "$F[0]\n"' | perl -e '$sum += $_ while <>; print "$sum\n"' |
| 13:17.11 | sepski | use tabcompleation for crying out load :) |
| 13:17.15 | thartman | I like one liners :) |
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| 13:24.12 | thartman | sepski: http://rafb.net/p/djLgDd27.html |
| 13:25.20 | sepski | thartman, as you see all files are _i386_ |
| 13:25.32 | sepski | so i guess that means you have a 32bit debian userspace and a 64bit kernel |
| 13:26.07 | sepski | that's usualy not done unless you have some partiqular needs. |
| 13:26.24 | thartman | okay... interesting... thanks... helping me get a handle on what we got. |
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| 13:27.38 | thartman | a snip of this chat is definitely goin in the wiki. |
| 13:27.44 | sepski | thartman, ofcourse that's all assumed the files you have in apt/archive is the files installed on your debian... but anything else would be odd :) |
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| 13:28.14 | thartman | thanks again, and g'day. |
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| 13:29.47 | sidjster | i cant get beryl to work i get beryl: No composite extension |
| 13:29.55 | sidjster | any ideas |
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| 13:30.36 | jayeola | what window manager u using? |
| 13:30.57 | sidjster | trying to use beryl but metacity now |
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| 13:31.03 | jayeola | kde, gnome, xfce seem to work well with berl from whtat i've seen |
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| 13:41.00 | fantomas | Hi. libbttracker question. Is there a way to get torrent client version on serverside (in tracker)? |
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| 13:44.46 | jayeola | is there any reason for a box's keyboard not to b responsive? wrong irq in bios perhaps? |
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| 13:47.40 | mne | Hi, I'm looking for a network backup system, but unlike traditional backup systems on each system a server should run. from time to time then a client connects to the servers and collects all new backup data. is there a backup system that can do this ? I would like to backup my servers to my home client machine |
| 13:48.50 | AElfwine | hi |
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| 13:49.29 | Faithful | is it possible to connect to a different login at the command line? |
| 13:49.43 | Faithful | without screen that is |
| 13:50.09 | loesh | su <loginname> |
| 13:50.09 | tarzeau | Faithful: at login: ? |
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| 13:51.15 | Faithful | I have a root ssh shell that fellover part way through config of an app and I want to attach to that shell |
| 13:51.17 | metafor | Im having a slight problem with my two network cards. Both cards dont work in linux, only one of them works. |
| 13:51.41 | metafor | I got drivers for them both installed. |
| 13:53.02 | AElfwine | i 've some strange issue with locales : all my LC_* and LANG are FR_fr.utf8, but strange letters appear in my filenames with konqueror and console, but I can see these letters correctly in console when I'm root. Is there a encoding configuration file for each user ? |
| 13:53.03 | Faithful | metafor: are they both recognized by kernel ??? dmesg |
| 13:53.47 | metafor | Faithful: actually im not sure if its two different cards, im not very experienced on the network area but it the card(s) is on my motherboard and I think it might be one card with two ports |
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| 13:53.52 | metafor | is that possible? |
| 13:54.16 | Kurupt_ | hi, is there a way to send/receive from udp server with telnet / netcat? echo "’’’’rules" | nc -u 127.0.0.1 27015 doesnt show any response |
| 13:54.19 | Kurupt_ | any ideas? |
| 13:54.21 | Faithful | it is possible |
| 13:54.53 | Faithful | metafor: dmesg | more and see if you have 2 ethX detected |
| 13:55.09 | metafor | Faithful: yes, eth1 and eth0 |
| 13:55.29 | Faithful | metafor: then you just need to configure |
| 13:55.45 | metafor | ahh, ok |
| 13:56.02 | Faithful | vi /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:56.17 | Faithful | and create entries for both |
| 13:56.57 | metafor | Faithful: I currently got this: iface eth0 inet dhcp (eth0 is the port/card not working= |
| 13:57.14 | metafor | shouldnt dhcp have sorted it out automatically? |
| 13:57.41 | Faithful | metafor: it should have auto eth0 before it |
| 13:57.41 | metafor | (I also have a entry for eth1, static. |
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| 13:58.03 | LinkinTurk | Please Help!!! |
| 13:58.06 | LinkinTurk | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 13:58.06 | Faithful | metafor: do you have a dhcp server running on the network? |
| 13:58.11 | metafor | yes, my router. |
| 13:58.42 | Faithful | how is eth0 connected? |
| 13:58.48 | LinkinTurk | how i can solve this mysql problem? "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"?? |
| 13:59.03 | Faithful | try runnin dhclient eth0 and see what you see |
| 13:59.18 | loesh | LinkinTurk, start mysqld? |
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| 13:59.45 | Faithful | in dmesg you should see the link status for both nics |
| 13:59.58 | LinkinTurk | can not s |
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| 14:00.04 | LinkinTurk | i can not start |
| 14:00.07 | LinkinTurk | same error. |
| 14:00.25 | bungle | does anyone know if it is feasible to install Debian on to a thumb drive and use it on different computers? |
| 14:00.43 | LinkinTurk | file does not exist on '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' |
| 14:01.07 | Faithful | bungle: sure why not... got a big enough drive.... but don't run swap on it... you will kill it quick |
| 14:01.21 | Faithful | they only have a million writes or so |
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| 14:01.59 | bungle | ah 'k. but every system has different hardware configuration. is that a barrier? |
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| 14:02.26 | Faithful | bungle: not as long as you can boot to usb |
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| 14:02.56 | teledyn_ | anyone know of an good mp3 dj mixing app? |
| 14:03.03 | bungle | cool |
| 14:03.07 | Faithful | bungle: you would get more miliage with knoppix on a stick |
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| 14:03.39 | Ind[y] | Hello. My Debian installation stopped when it was trying to run tasksel. Is it a known bug? |
| 14:03.55 | bungle | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.03 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: ctrl-alt-f4 to see the log console |
| 14:04.12 | Faithful | bungle: yes it is full of automagic |
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| 14:05.39 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.4 -- renewal in 1800 seconds |
| 14:05.48 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: that's the last line of the log |
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| 14:06.23 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: maybe its on ctrl-alt-f5 ? |
| 14:06.54 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: there is no console on ctrl-alt-f5 |
| 14:07.33 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: i don't know then |
| 14:07.44 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: :-( |
| 14:07.47 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: you should see a log of what its doing behind the scenes |
| 14:07.52 | Ind[y] | Anybody could help me, please? |
| 14:09.01 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: I can see that there is something about dchp network communication between the pc and the router. Can I do something? |
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| 14:10.01 | geoaxis | hello , how can I check at what time my linux system crashed (power failure perhaps) |
| 14:10.19 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: maybe your net connection has a problem. open up another console, say f1 or f2 and try to ping something |
| 14:10.30 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: ok |
| 14:11.06 | enouf | 5% error |
| 14:11.22 | enouf | !5% error |
| 14:11.22 | dpkg | methinks 5% error is d-i stopping at 5%? boot the installer with `boot debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true' or drop to a shell, chroot /target, kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key, then run aptitude and install what you like, or or use a daily build etch installer where this problem has been fixed |
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| 14:11.51 | teledyn_ | enouf: his install froze at tasksel is that the same error? |
| 14:12.05 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: is this etch or sarge btw? |
| 14:12.40 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: etch |
| 14:12.44 | Ind[y] | enouf: exactly. 5% :P |
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| 14:13.35 | teledyn_ | oh i used a daily build recently so didn't have that issue |
| 14:13.44 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: ok |
| 14:14.05 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: but you can do that instructions of chrooting in a shell to fix it |
| 14:14.05 | Ind[y] | enouf: How do I "kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key"? |
| 14:14.07 | enouf | !today |
| 14:14.08 | dpkg | [today] the first day of the rest of your ......ackkkkk (*PLONK*). Hey, anyone know a good mortician? |
| 14:14.12 | enouf | bah |
| 14:14.14 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today |
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| 14:14.37 | teledyn_ | haha |
| 14:14.41 | sepski | !today is http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today |
| 14:14.42 | dpkg | ...but today is already something else... |
| 14:14.55 | sepski | !today is http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today |
| 14:14.55 | dpkg | okay, sepski |
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| 14:15.01 | sepski | what a useless factoid :) |
| 14:15.09 | enouf | heh |
| 14:15.09 | teledyn_ | but it was funny! |
| 14:15.30 | sepski | teledyn_, but today is usefull ! i'v been looking for it often :) |
| 14:15.40 | teledyn_ | i know |
| 14:15.59 | Ind[y] | OK. I killed aptitude. |
| 14:16.14 | Ind[y] | But now I don't even have kde, neither X installed. Right? |
| 14:16.16 | enouf | I always end up at www.debian.org looking for it (and get lost and frustrated) , but it's on wiki,debain.org instead |
| 14:16.26 | teledyn_ | !key |
| 14:16.26 | dpkg | For the new apt key, download it with "gpg --recv-keys 6070d3a1", then verify in whatever way you normally do that it is signed by the Debian ftpmasters. you can then use "apt-key" to install it. |
| 14:16.34 | rgsteele | Hum... I always get dislexic when specifying where input/output go with respect to STDIN/STDOUT ....anyone kind enough to correct this? -> ./somescript.sh 2> script.log &1 < /dev/zero |
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| 14:16.55 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: install the new key see ^^^ |
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| 14:17.18 | Ind[y] | teledyn_: how do I install the latest key? |
| 14:17.22 | dimir | !nickometer Nosf3ratu |
| 14:17.23 | enouf | !+apt-key 6070d3a1 |
| 14:17.24 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 6070d3a1 ; gpg --export 6070d3a1 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 14:17.24 | dpkg | 'Nosf3ratu' is 22.000% lame, dimir |
| 14:17.25 | teledyn_ | Ind[y]: or if its all to much of a PITA just get the daily cd :-) |
| 14:17.36 | Nosf3ratu | dimir, thank. I give a shit. |
| 14:17.36 | Ind[y] | PITA? |
| 14:17.40 | Ind[y] | :P |
| 14:17.40 | dimir | \o/ |
| 14:17.43 | teledyn_ | !pita |
| 14:17.43 | dpkg | pita is, like, pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 14:17.51 | Ind[y] | rofl :D |
| 14:18.00 | Ind[y] | How do I install the latest key, please? :) |
| 14:18.03 | Ind[y] | !key |
| 14:18.04 | dpkg | For the new apt key, download it with "gpg --recv-keys 6070d3a1", then verify in whatever way you normally do that it is signed by the Debian ftpmasters. you can then use "apt-key" to install it. |
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| 14:18.10 | dimir | Ind[y]: apt-key update |
| 14:18.15 | teledyn_ | you could prolly download the iso and burn it by the time you type all that shit |
| 14:18.22 | Ind[y] | dimir: thx a lot :) |
| 14:18.29 | dimir | Ind[y]: np |
| 14:19.46 | Ind[y] | dimir: I ran apt-kety update. Now? |
| 14:20.06 | Ind[y] | How I get X, KDE, and stuff installed automatically? (like the installer would do for me) |
| 14:20.11 | Ind[y] | * key |
| 14:20.17 | Ind[y] | * How do I get |
| 14:20.46 | dimir | Ind[y]: aptitude update && aptitude install kdebase kdelibs |
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| 14:21.16 | enouf | Ind[y]: if the key is added and working you can now fire up aptitude and add whatever you like |
| 14:21.21 | Ind[y] | dimir: ok. thanks :-) |
| 14:21.22 | enouf | !install kde |
| 14:21.22 | dpkg | somebody said install kde was In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 14:21.35 | enouf | !set up x |
| 14:21.35 | dpkg | i heard set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
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| 14:23.05 | enouf | hrm ..maybe trying to pull in kde will automagically grab all the xorg stuff prolly |
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| 14:23.44 | Rapp | i forgot -- how do i insert a new service in /etc/rc?.d ? is there some insserv script or something? |
| 14:24.54 | rgsteele | Hm. I wonder how lame mine is. |
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| 14:24.58 | rgsteele | !nickometer rgsteele |
| 14:25.00 | dpkg | 'rgsteele' is 0.000% lame, rgsteele |
| 14:25.04 | rgsteele | Yay! |
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| 14:25.12 | dimir | \o/ |
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| 14:25.57 | cydork | Rapp: man update-rc.d |
| 14:26.02 | Rapp | cydork, thanks |
| 14:26.26 | dimir | there are others too, for example sysvconfig |
| 14:26.34 | dimir | graphical stuff, if you prefer it. |
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| 14:28.32 | litb | is there a lib32 for gtk2 for my amd64bit debian? |
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| 14:28.59 | uptownben | Flimzy around? |
| 14:29.06 | Flimzy | uptownben: hi |
| 14:29.13 | Flimzy | what's up? |
| 14:29.13 | uptownben | Hey |
| 14:29.41 | uptownben | Flimzy: Been working on installing the DOU |
| 14:29.51 | Flimzy | cool... any luck? |
| 14:29.57 | uptownben | not really.. |
| 14:30.00 | Flimzy | heh |
| 14:30.02 | Flimzy | what's the trouble? |
| 14:30.07 | jastarafi | not sure |
| 14:30.31 | uptownben | The first thing I ran into was with the downloadable tar.gz files |
| 14:31.22 | uptownben | when I untar'd it it contained the package files and a directory called mnt |
| 14:31.32 | uptownben | under that chroot and boot under that |
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| 14:32.20 | uptownben | I untar'd to the CF as instructed but extlinux could not find the boot image |
| 14:32.52 | uptownben | I had to move the vmlinuz and initrd files to the / of the CF |
| 14:33.18 | Flimzy | uptownben: doh. |
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| 14:33.31 | Flimzy | uptownben: the tar.gz is wrong then--my fault. |
| 14:33.42 | Flimzy | uptownben: Move the contents of mnt/* to your CF |
| 14:33.51 | uptownben | then it saw it and booted but had no file system.. I just saw a busybox message |
| 14:33.59 | scv | what's CF? |
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| 14:34.05 | Flimzy | scv: compact flash |
| 14:34.08 | scv | oh |
| 14:34.09 | uptownben | I am going to try it right now. |
| 14:34.13 | scv | hehe |
| 14:34.51 | scv | is CF still made from NOR now? |
| 14:34.52 | Flimzy | uptownben: I think I will try to make it work on VFAT instead of ext2... then it will probably be easier to configure--and even possible to set up from a Windows machine. |
| 14:35.08 | spamhog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:36.12 | uptownben | also, I was trying to follow you longer instructions but it says I should run debootstrap on the chroot directory but the CF is nmounted in boot UNDER the chroot dir. |
| 14:36.14 | zamuro | #debian-es /kick Spaceghost spammer |
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| 14:36.49 | uptownben | shouldnt debootstrap be run on the boot dir then? |
| 14:37.12 | rpc | i have just prepared a custom kernel package with make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image, what is my next step after dpkg -i? do i need to prepare initrd image manually? |
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| 14:37.54 | Flimzy | uptownben: That's correct. |
| 14:38.01 | Flimzy | uptownben: You build the chroot "around" the CF card... |
| 14:38.17 | Flimzy | uptownben: Then near the end of the instructions, when you run 'moo', that's when it compresses the contents of the chroot onto the CF |
| 14:38.49 | uptownben | OK.. I'm going to reboot into Debian to give it another try.. |
| 14:39.27 | uptownben | last question.. should I see a normal Debina prompt after booting? all I saw until now was a busybox message |
| 14:39.35 | uptownben | *Debian |
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| 14:40.07 | uptownben | OK.. I'm booting into Debian and I willstart bitchx there |
| 14:40.08 | uptownben | brb |
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| 14:43.55 | |dennis| | Good morning: question: I have two machine, using a crossover to connect the two to each other, have 1000 mb networks cards in them, do i need to do anything special to get them going at 1000, because it seems that is is running only at 100.....? |
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| 14:44.34 | scv | do we need the crossover cable now? |
| 14:44.36 | metafor | |dennis|: is your switch/hub 1000mbit? |
| 14:44.45 | rpc | yesss! the freaking custom kernel finally worked... 2.6.20.1 #2 SMP Fri Mar 2 :) |
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| 14:45.01 | metafor | |dennis|: sorry, nevermind. |
| 14:45.02 | |dennis| | metafor: no switch is present..using a corssover..to connect the two...would that matter? |
| 14:45.02 | scv | cat5e or cat6? |
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| 14:45.18 | metafor | |dennis|: no it wouldnt matter. |
| 14:45.32 | Ind[y] | It seems I am so unlucky, that I tried to install Debian (for first time in my life) when they were changing the authentication keys :PPP |
| 14:45.36 | stew | its probably wouldn't matter |
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| 14:45.49 | |dennis| | scv slv: cat 5 actually.. |
| 14:45.55 | stew | |dennis|: how long is the cable. some cards don't perform well with very short cables between active nodes |
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| 14:46.11 | CharminTheMoose | are there any linux apps out there that can convert mp3 to midi? |
| 14:46.13 | scv | |dennis|, did you made the cable by yourself? |
| 14:46.18 | |dennis| | scv: yes... |
| 14:46.22 | scv | hehehe |
| 14:46.37 | |dennis| | scv: i do have a cable tester..to make sure my crimping is ok... |
| 14:46.40 | |dennis| | ;) |
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| 14:46.53 | stew | |dennis|: how long is it? |
| 14:46.58 | scv | |dennis|, did you use the old cat5 cable (100Mb/s)? |
| 14:47.07 | uptownben | Flimzy: should I copy the chroot dir to the CF or just the boot folder that is under chroot? |
| 14:47.28 | |dennis| | scv: let me check..that might be it... |
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| 14:48.22 | scv | |dennis|, you need cat5e or cat6, and I doubt the crossover is necessary |
| 14:49.12 | scv | |dennis|, is gigabit ethernet fast? |
| 14:49.21 | |dennis| | scv: yes thanks..did not exactly know about that...just got a new box of cat 5e...and yes seems like you dont need a crossover.....jsut tried a straight through and it works..as well..accept at 100mb...will crimp a new one.... |
| 14:49.22 | |dennis| | thanks.. |
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| 14:49.48 | scv | ^_^ |
| 14:50.18 | |dennis| | scv: we are not sure..accept the connection betwee the two machines is between ourr internal gateway and our external gateway..and as such we want it to be a fat pipe...:) we had the nic..so we thought that we'd give it a try..the internal net has a decent number of machine... :) |
| 14:50.49 | scv | O.O, you have gigabit switches/routers? |
| 14:50.57 | uptownben | Flimzy? |
| 14:51.17 | |dennis| | /s/accept/except/ :P |
| 14:51.58 | scv | |dennis|, hehe, ic |
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| 14:52.11 | |dennis| | :) |
| 14:52.20 | scv | i like that "fat pipe" |
| 14:52.25 | stew | |dennis|: you can try forcing the link to 1000mb with mii-tool |
| 14:52.54 | |dennis| | scv and stew: anyways thanks a bunch...willl go and crimp a new cat 5e cable.....catch you ppl later....thanks for the help...... |
| 14:53.11 | scv | ^_^ |
| 14:53.23 | |dennis| | scv: hehe.. :) |
| 14:53.33 | Flimzy | uptownben: sorry, I'm in and out. what's up? |
| 14:53.43 | stew | hmm, actually i dunno that you can use mii-tool to force a higher negotiation, possibly only a lower one |
| 14:54.10 | uptownben | should I copy the chroot dir to the CF or just the boot dir that is in chroot? |
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| 14:55.08 | |dennis| | stew: I not too sure either... will probably try it anyways..later on..just for fun....:) |
| 14:55.09 | earthian | hey, what is the command to make a search for files and return a list by their contents? for example i have a mail directory where names are like asd6f54as6d5f4 and i need to find all files that contain "text" |
| 14:55.24 | |dennis| | earthian: grep |
| 14:55.26 | wols | grep |
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| 14:59.27 | rpc | what was the command to rebuild the kernel module on debian |
| 14:59.52 | rpc | i need to rebuild some module that is not the part of the family |
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| 15:01.36 | ghatak | is there an alternative better than screen ? |
| 15:02.11 | stew | ghatak: no, and that's a question rarely asked. what shortcoming are you finding in screen? |
| 15:02.22 | stew | rpc: m-a ? |
| 15:02.37 | ghatak | stew: just evaluating my options :) |
| 15:03.57 | uptownben | Flimzy? copy chroot also or just boot? |
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| 15:04.21 | rpc | stew hm.. |
| 15:04.22 | Flimzy | uptownben: Are you building it yourself? |
| 15:04.34 | Flimzy | uptownben: don't copy the chroot--the 'moo' command at the end does that for you. |
| 15:04.35 | uptownben | no. you said the tarball was wrong. |
| 15:04.47 | Flimzy | uptownben: oh, right |
| 15:04.52 | Flimzy | uptownben: Let me just fix the tarball |
| 15:05.07 | uptownben | the tarball contains /mnt/chroot/boot |
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| 15:05.24 | rpc | stew... is there a chance to ask you to be a little bit more enlightening to me? :) i really need to do this module upgrade |
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| 15:05.55 | stew | rpc: is m-a not the command you are looking for? |
| 15:05.56 | stew | !m-a |
| 15:05.57 | dpkg | methinks module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential, or for etch/sid use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 15:06.12 | rpc | hm it's not there on Etch, so i thought you were joking or |
| 15:06.21 | stew | !info module-assistant etch |
| 15:06.44 | h3sp4wn | ghatak: If you want a single screen then dtach is ok (and you don't need to use ^aesc to be able to scroll) - but I use screen (because I like multiple windows) |
| 15:06.50 | uptownben | let me know and I will download the new tarball |
| 15:06.53 | dpkg | module-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.10.8 (etch), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 404 kB |
| 15:07.05 | rpc | stew i just installed it |
| 15:07.16 | stew | rpc: what driver are you trying to compile? |
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| 15:07.21 | rpc | stew vbox one |
| 15:07.37 | rpc | stew i made a custom kernel package and that one never got recompiled, not sure what to do next |
| 15:08.42 | stew | rpc: if its not pckaged specifically for debian, you probably wont be able to use m-a |
| 15:08.46 | rpc | very confusing, not really sure where to begin... |
| 15:08.58 | rpc | i only know the location of the module source |
| 15:08.58 | stew | rpc: begin with the README/INSTALL that came with the module |
| 15:09.02 | Flimzy | uptownben: it's uploading now... I have a slow Internet connection here at work. ETA 5 min |
| 15:09.27 | uptownben | kewl.. I'm at the wiki site.. let me know. |
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| 15:10.45 | RvGaTe | When i try to remove a package, it tells me that i need to reinstall it first to remove it... but i cant reinstall it becouse it isn't supported on my newly installed kernel... the package is called virtualbox and apt-get remove gives me: "package virtualbox has to be reinstalled, but i find a package for it..." |
| 15:10.59 | uptownben | Flimzy: I'm using the latest extlinux.. that shouldnt make a difference right? |
| 15:11.20 | Flimzy | uptownben: No, that should be fine. |
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| 15:15.31 | rpc | stew i would but there is no readme |
| 15:16.15 | Flimzy | uptownben: Okay, the new tarball is up. same url: http://aslan.flimzy.com/dou/Debian_etch_on_USB.tar.gz |
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| 15:16.50 | uptownben | OK.. I'll get it and try.. same directions? |
| 15:16.57 | x_link | /sbin/grub <--- is that how I update GRUB? |
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| 15:18.10 | hark | RvGaTe: maybe try using dpkg with the --force-remove-reinstreq option |
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| 15:19.04 | hark | x_link: update-grub |
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| 15:19.59 | Ilovemypuppy | my etch install seems to have confused UTC with PST - can anyone help me? |
| 15:20.47 | Ilovemypuppy | i have the bios clock set to the local time, my /etc/timezone is US/Pacific |
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| 15:21.12 | Ilovemypuppy | /etc/default/rcS has UTC set to yes |
| 15:21.14 | stoned | I don't like dogs |
| 15:21.14 | assasukasse | how do i install antialiased fonts? |
| 15:21.15 | hark | hmm, /etc/default/rcS, use |
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| 15:21.36 | stoned | RvGaTe: I have virtual box installed |
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| 15:21.44 | stoned | RvGaTe: in fact, you were the one who told me about it |
| 15:21.55 | Ilovemypuppy | i would like to use UTC time to avoid having to update for daylight savings time |
| 15:22.00 | stoned | RvGaTe: I didn't install the package, I think I just got the binary from thier site |
| 15:22.07 | Ilovemypuppy | does this mean my BIOS clock should be set to UTC? |
| 15:22.11 | Ilovemypuppy | I dont mind doing that |
| 15:22.17 | stew | Ilovemypuppy: if your clock is set to localtime, then UTC should be set to no. however, in general, your hadware clock should be UTC |
| 15:22.21 | RvGaTe | stoned, remove it before you go to 1.6.18 |
| 15:22.25 | stew | Ilovemypuppy: do you dual boot with windows? |
| 15:22.29 | Ilovemypuppy | stew, thank you |
| 15:22.35 | Ilovemypuppy | stew, no not on that box |
| 15:22.45 | stoned | Rene i'm using 1.3.4 |
| 15:22.52 | stew | Ilovemypuppy: then i'd definately recommend just setting your hardware clock to utc |
| 15:22.56 | stoned | its old |
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| 15:23.09 | RvGaTe | stoned, nicknames plz |
| 15:23.16 | Ilovemypuppy | please tell me the current UTC time |
| 15:23.21 | stoned | ahh yes my bad I have a habit |
| 15:23.26 | Ilovemypuppy | 15:24 ? |
| 15:23.34 | stoned | I know this french guy named Rene and he has the greatest accent ever |
| 15:23.44 | FallOnMe | le accent! |
| 15:23.44 | stoned | I could listen to him try to speak english all day and not be bored |
| 15:23.46 | stoned | its great |
| 15:24.04 | elements | What PCI Express card should I get if I want decent performance, but most important, to use open source drivers? Im a complete newbie on "new" hardware. |
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| 15:24.19 | stew | Ilovemypuppy: yes, 15:24 |
| 15:24.40 | rpc | stoned lol true |
| 15:24.44 | Ilovemypuppy | stew thank you very much |
| 15:24.51 | RvGaTe | stoned, me ? |
| 15:24.54 | Ilovemypuppy | i didnt THINK that was an OS issue |
| 15:25.07 | stoned | RvGaTe: no you're not french |
| 15:25.15 | RvGaTe | stoned, thankgod not |
| 15:25.22 | stoned | lol |
| 15:25.40 | stoned | RvGaTe: why don't you just make the virtual box package yourself |
| 15:26.20 | stoned | the binaryies are not uptodate I thinks |
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| 15:26.44 | RvGaTe | stoned, get ur ass on skype m8 |
| 15:27.18 | stoned | RvGaTe: i have no headset right now |
| 15:27.23 | stoned | otherwise i'd call family in pakistan |
| 15:27.32 | stoned | lol, I just bought skype minutes and then broke my headset |
| 15:27.37 | cezanne | hi, is this the right channel to ask some security related questions? |
| 15:27.39 | x_link | hark: Okey, thanks alot.. |
| 15:27.42 | x_link | Hi stoned ! |
| 15:27.45 | stoned | hey man |
| 15:27.48 | RvGaTe | cezanne, if its related to debian, yes |
| 15:27.51 | stoned | x_link: did you ever get the super maryo package? |
| 15:27.56 | stew | wait, skype isn't free? i thought that's why people were actually using it? |
| 15:28.06 | stew | i mean no-cost |
| 15:28.08 | x_link | stoned: From that site? |
| 15:28.14 | stew | (i know its not libre) |
| 15:28.18 | stoned | stew: from usa pc to pakistani phone is its not fre, its 14 c a minute |
| 15:28.19 | jelly | stew: it's not free to call POTS numbers |
| 15:28.25 | x_link | stoned: We fixed it together that day. Don't remember? |
| 15:28.26 | stoned | x_link: hold on |
| 15:28.34 | stoned | x_link: but there was no sound |
| 15:28.35 | x_link | stoned: Ok, give me url again. |
| 15:28.47 | stoned | or music and it was an old version |
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| 15:28.51 | cezanne | well, i'm using debian, but I gues it was a common DoS attack i got faced with this week |
| 15:28.57 | stoned | I packaged one from SVN and its fantastic |
| 15:29.00 | x_link | stoned: No music... but the other sound worked. |
| 15:29.07 | x_link | stoned: Okey, where can I download it from? |
| 15:29.16 | x_link | stoned: Should we talk in PM? |
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| 15:29.41 | WildPikachu | is there a rsync server I can sync my images from? |
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| 15:30.02 | stoned | x_link: not as this is not offtopic |
| 15:30.11 | x_link | Okey. |
| 15:30.13 | |dennis| | slv: stew: cat 5E does not seem to work either....mii-tool show>> eth1: no autonegotiation, 10baseT-HD, link ok... 10 base???? hmm... am doing a new etch install on one machine..so could that be it?...will wait till installation is done anyways..gettting carried away with speed for now..will wait till all is installed.... :) thanks |
| 15:30.43 | stew | |dennis|: i'd suspect a hardware problem long before a software problem |
| 15:30.53 | cezanne | and i can't trace back the DoS attack actually except from the traffic logs showing incoming 50GB in just 5 minutes or so |
| 15:31.03 | stew | |dennis|: you are using all 8 conductors right? although 100mb only needs 4 conductors, 1000mb needs all 8 |
| 15:32.08 | |dennis| | stew: using all 8....made sure.. :) |
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| 15:32.30 | stoned | x_link: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/debian/smc_0.99_i386.deb <-- get it, it should prompt for proper dependencies. |
| 15:33.29 | stoned | x_link: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/debian/smc_0.99.orig.tar.gz <-- if you want this too |
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| 15:33.32 | |dennis| | stew: am not sure about the problem yet..bnut will wait till insatll is done..one server however has 2 4 port nics, one gig nic and 1 onboard nic..a totla of 10 nis..on one server..hmm..could that have anything to do with it?? disabled autid, modem and other silly things that might need irq and cause any conflicts... |
| 15:33.44 | stoned | x_link: just get the deb pacakge and dpkg -i it |
| 15:33.50 | x_link | stoned: Okey. |
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| 15:34.16 | stoned | x_link: I think the developers were supposed to release a version yesterday I dunno if they did or not |
| 15:34.17 | x_link | stoned: I had to download alot of packages for the other file, let's say I re-install my Debian Etch, do I have to download all those packages again? |
| 15:34.22 | keta | ciao boys |
| 15:34.23 | stew | |dennis|: that should have nothing to do with the rate that the hardware syncs at, it will eventually have an effect at how much throughput you are actually able to get through the computers bus |
| 15:34.30 | stoned | x_link: you reinstalled etch? |
| 15:34.50 | stoned | x_link: yeh you need SDL libs to play it.. it should ask tell you about the dependencies |
| 15:34.55 | x_link | Nope, but I just asked if I would do it, do I need all those packages again? |
| 15:35.03 | x_link | ok |
| 15:35.12 | |dennis| | stew: yeah we figured that.....about the bus...i dont see any conflicts...with irq so thats good....oh well..will wait till install is done... :) |
| 15:35.12 | stoned | !paster me |
| 15:35.12 | dpkg | stoned: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 15:36.13 | stew | stoned: http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/debian/smc_0.99.orig.tar.gz is 404 |
| 15:36.13 | stoned | http://channels.debian.net/paste/5541 |
| 15:36.13 | stoned | x_link: ^^ for depends |
| 15:36.13 | RvGaTe | can someone add to the bot: virtualbox -> DO NOT USE VIRTUALBOX !!! :) |
| 15:36.14 | shambala | urge contrata gente del df como freelance |
| 15:36.14 | stoned | stew: oh hmm |
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| 15:36.26 | x_link | stoned: =) |
| 15:36.30 | stoned | stew http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/debian/smc-0.99.orig.tar.gz |
| 15:36.32 | x_link | stoned: You know any other cool games? |
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| 15:36.49 | stoned | x_link: maryo is cooler than any other video game character |
| 15:36.51 | stoned | :) |
| 15:36.55 | stew | stoned: and that is the wrong name for an .orig.tar.gz, you know... |
| 15:37.01 | stoned | x_link: I don't game much, I only packaged it since you were asking me to |
| 15:37.04 | x_link | stoned: Is there no skateboard game? I remember I played this OLD skateboard game once on Windows.. |
| 15:37.10 | stoned | stew: I have to redo it again I think |
| 15:37.15 | x_link | stoned: Okey, I don't play much either. |
| 15:37.22 | stoned | stew: I kinda screwed up ehehe |
| 15:37.24 | x_link | stoned: Are you a Debian developer? |
| 15:37.30 | stoned | no |
| 15:37.37 | x_link | OKey. |
| 15:37.38 | stoned | I'm just a pothead |
| 15:37.42 | x_link | lol |
| 15:37.45 | stoned | I don't think they potheads in their team |
| 15:37.47 | Ronin | RvGaTe: should say why too |
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| 15:37.58 | x_link | stew: Are you a developer? |
| 15:37.59 | stoned | they want* |
| 15:38.08 | stew | x_link: no, im a maintainer, and i'm in NM |
| 15:38.24 | x_link | Hrmm didn't understand that, but ok=) |
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| 15:38.33 | stoned | !nm |
| 15:38.33 | dpkg | it has been said that nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 15:38.53 | stew | x_link: i maintain official debian packages, I'm not yet a DD but i'm in the program to eventaully become one |
| 15:38.55 | x_link | Is there any developer here right now? |
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| 15:39.03 | stew | x_link: probably, what do you need? |
| 15:39.05 | RvGaTe | stew: for the bot: "virtualbox" = "Virtualbox is a virtual machine solution created by Innotek, it is recommended not to use this becouse it will likely to break after a kernelupdate, and it will be almost impossible to remove this... wich is probably the main reason its not in the debian repos. You can use vmware instead" |
| 15:39.06 | Flimzy | x_link: A developer of what? |
| 15:39.29 | stoned | oh oh oh |
| 15:39.38 | saahbs | ok - lets try again due to netsplit... |
| 15:39.43 | stoned | stew: I remeber you said something about the exact file name in source matching |
| 15:39.44 | x_link | I don't need anything speciall. |
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| 15:39.49 | saahbs | I'm wondering if there is a problem with debian mail servers, I haven't received anything from debian-security-announce in over two weeks. |
| 15:39.53 | stoned | ahh I think thas what probably caused a bad orig |
| 15:39.59 | saahbs | bugtraq also didn't have any debian reports recently. |
| 15:40.11 | scv | I used to think you can meet lots of developers on the mailist |
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| 15:40.39 | stoned | screw maryo but not as much |
| 15:40.41 | Flimzy | I'm using SpamAssassin with two spamd servers. I have spamc set to try both spamd servers, but it never fails over if the first attempt fails. Is this a bug in spamc? Or am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:40.47 | scv | they have no time to BS |
| 15:40.49 | saahbs | can you guys tell me the latest debian-security-announce message date you got? |
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| 15:40.51 | stoned | I think I'll package keytouch, that is actually a useful software not in debian |
| 15:41.00 | stew | RvGaTe: i think your logic is probably not correct |
| 15:41.12 | RvGaTe | stew, its still shit tho |
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| 15:43.25 | stoned | hmm |
| 15:43.28 | stoned | what? |
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| 15:43.47 | stew | !info keytouch |
| 15:43.49 | stoned | I am using virtual box from source, compiled to a deb package, and I can remove it install it it doesn't leave files behind i mean its fine |
| 15:43.57 | stoned | RvGaTe: what are you saying? |
| 15:43.58 | dpkg | keytouch: (A program to configure the extra function keys of multimedia keyboards), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.2.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 417 kB, Installed size: 1848 kB |
| 15:44.00 | stoned | !keytouch |
| 15:44.00 | dpkg | i heard keytouch is a program which allows you to easily configure and define the EXTRA keys on your Multimedia/Internet ready keyboard with absolute ease. Get those keys working now! http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.html |
| 15:44.08 | stoned | oh |
| 15:44.12 | stoned | its already been packaged |
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| 15:44.24 | stoned | goddamit |
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| 15:44.35 | stoned | !ping |
| 15:44.36 | dpkg | pong |
| 15:44.58 | stoned | x_link: you using my webserver? I'm lagging heavily hehe :) |
| 15:45.24 | stew | stoned: apt-cache show wondershaper :) |
| 15:45.49 | stoned | hey nice |
| 15:45.52 | stoned | thanks stew |
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| 15:46.42 | hark | how do you make the kernel.printk settings in sysctl permanent? it reverts back to 15 .. should i use /etc/default/klogd instead? |
| 15:47.07 | RvGaTe | stew, traffic shaping script? wth :P |
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| 15:47.51 | stew | RvGaTe: yes, a good one. prioritizes acks/shortpackets and interactive traffic like ssh, puts bulk traffic like ftp and torrent in the toilet, but is easily customizable |
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| 15:48.37 | stoned | /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/ |
| 15:48.49 | stoned | RvGaTe: get reading! |
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| 15:51.34 | stoned | !ping |
| 15:51.35 | dpkg | pong |
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| 15:52.18 | uptownben | Flimzy: password? |
| 15:52.34 | Flimzy | uptownben: Oh... dang it. did I set a password on there? |
| 15:52.41 | Flimzy | uptownben: I sure am glad you're testing this :P |
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| 15:52.58 | Flimzy | uptownben: I guess that means it booted okay tho, right? |
| 15:53.09 | uptownben | so far so good. |
| 15:53.15 | Flimzy | sweet. |
| 15:53.18 | Flimzy | gimme a sec |
| 15:53.21 | uptownben | linux 4.0 bar tty1 |
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| 15:53.36 | Flimzy | uptownben: cool :) |
| 15:54.50 | uptownben | Flimzy: so.. how about that password.. so I can continue |
| 15:55.23 | Flimzy | uptownben: That's a password I actually use... sorry to do this to you, but I'll unset the password and re-upload the tarball. |
| 15:55.53 | uptownben | aw shi*t.. |
| 15:55.58 | Flimzy | sorry :( |
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| 15:56.42 | Flimzy | uptownben: I hope you're on a faster internet connection than I am... |
| 15:57.27 | uptownben | its not that... i need to reboot to linux every time |
| 15:57.37 | Flimzy | ah |
| 15:57.48 | Flimzy | sorry dude. |
| 15:57.55 | Flimzy | I'll work on making it work on VFAT so it can be installed from Windows |
| 15:59.24 | biz | is there a good graphical ssh (and sftp/scp) client available for x? |
| 16:00.15 | cahoot | biz: putty |
| 16:00.25 | Hotwire | isn't a graphical ssh a bit of an oxymoron |
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| 16:00.40 | |dennis| | slv: stew: all is good...was the install...probably during install 1000m support is not loaded......after install and reboot...all is working..thanks for your help ... :) |
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| 16:00.54 | uptownben | can you let me know when the no password ext2 version is up? |
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| 16:02.04 | s2211 | hi |
| 16:02.17 | Flimzy | uptownben: yes. uploading now. |
| 16:02.34 | |dennis| | stew: does mii-tool even report a conenction of 1000m ?? because the nics link lights to indicate 1000m are up but mi-tool reports only 100......hmm..interesting.. |
| 16:02.39 | biz | cahoot: isn't putty for the command line only? i'm not asking for ncurses based guis, but rather for ones with X support |
| 16:02.43 | s2211 | how you exctract from a corrupted tar file? file was upload in a windows ftp server |
| 16:03.01 | s2211 | now we can not untar it |
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| 16:03.25 | cahoot | biz: apt-cache show putty |
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| 16:04.09 | stoned | biz: you just can also use xterm for ssh and for sftp I would try gftp gui and i think |
| 16:04.16 | stoned | !info gftp |
| 16:04.20 | dpkg | gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-16 (sid), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
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| 16:04.58 | stew | |dennis|: honestly i'm not sure |
| 16:05.02 | biz | the problem with gftp seems to be missing support for pubkey auth on sftp servers (ssh ftp, not ftps) |
| 16:05.04 | boguh | how can i see which locales are available and how to change them? |
| 16:05.29 | |dennis| | stew: oh well... :) thanks a whole bunch anyways..... :) |
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| 16:06.10 | stew | boguh: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:13.34 | s2211 | hi |
| 16:13.38 | s2211 | how do you extract from a damaged tar file? |
| 16:14.13 | jetscreamer | testing one two |
| 16:14.51 | Zaggynl | I just tried to tar my www folder. When I try to access my apache server with localhost:port using a browser now, I get a tar file with a random name |
| 16:15.10 | Flimzy | uptownben: Sorry for the delay--have a crisis here at work. But the new passwordless image is up now. |
| 16:15.12 | Zaggynl | I tried to revert this, and I can access existing files/folders, but not just localhost:port |
| 16:15.19 | jetscreamer | EdLin: jsut fyi no trying /amsg in the channel server window didn't work for amsg'ing just the one server |
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| 16:18.18 | Math^ | hello, does anyone know a program wich can convert rgb images to cmyk ? |
| 16:18.45 | jetscreamer | not what you want, but gimp can i think |
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| 16:19.00 | Math^ | jetscreamer: in gimp there is no cmyk support |
| 16:19.16 | jetscreamer | oh... gee |
| 16:19.18 | Math^ | so i have to safe as a rgb format |
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| 16:19.32 | Math^ | but now i want to convert that rgb-image to cmyk |
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| 16:19.44 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Are you surprised that when you tarred the DocumentRoot you got a tar file? :) |
| 16:20.00 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, well it IS logical |
| 16:20.05 | Zaggynl | but I'm not sure what to untar now |
| 16:20.20 | rgsteele | I'd go with the tarball you created. |
| 16:20.30 | Zaggynl | I did a gunzip * -r www |
| 16:20.51 | rgsteele | Yeah, a zip and a tar are two separate things altogether. |
| 16:21.02 | rgsteele | zip = compression, tar = archive |
| 16:21.05 | Zaggynl | everything except host:port works |
| 16:21.14 | Gnea | Math^: are you sure gimp can't handle cmyk at ALL? |
| 16:21.14 | jetscreamer | why the fuck is my default homepage in iceweasel changed since i distupgraded last night... and changed to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ at that |
| 16:21.19 | Math^ | rgsteele: whats the diff |
| 16:21.28 | Math^ | Gnea: yes.. |
| 16:21.30 | jetscreamer | that was a rhetorical question btw |
| 16:21.36 | Math^ | thats the big issue of the gimp |
| 16:21.36 | Gnea | Math^: $200 says you're wrong. |
| 16:21.45 | Gnea | nope |
| 16:21.47 | Gnea | Math^: http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml |
| 16:22.01 | Gnea | Math^: please, learn how to use google before spreading FUD. |
| 16:22.16 | Math^ | Gnea: what the...? |
| 16:22.19 | rgsteele | Math^: It's pretty silly to tar a single file. |
| 16:22.23 | Gnea | :) |
| 16:22.38 | Math^ | Gnea: not everyone can know everything |
| 16:22.49 | Math^ | and yes, i have googled it |
| 16:22.56 | jetscreamer | a better question is why the fuck is iceweasel not honoring the default homepage |
| 16:22.57 | Gnea | Math^: where did i state that? |
| 16:23.04 | Rydekull | Math^: but dont claim it is in one way then unless you're absolutely 100 percent sure :) |
| 16:23.08 | jetscreamer | since it's set but it's not actually using it |
| 16:23.13 | Gnea | Math^: i seriously doubt it. |
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| 16:23.40 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Well, that's surprising that it works at all. There's no reason to unzip a tarball, unless it's a .tar.gz or .tar.bzip2 or something. |
| 16:23.41 | jetscreamer | duh |
| 16:23.44 | Math^ | Rydekull: well, when everyone says its not posible... |
| 16:23.46 | jetscreamer | Math^: you need the cmyk plugin |
| 16:23.55 | Rydekull | Math^: "everyone" didnt |
| 16:23.56 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=cmyk+gimp&restrict=linux |
| 16:23.57 | Zaggynl | ugh |
| 16:23.58 | Gnea | who is this 'everyone' that you speak of? |
| 16:24.00 | Math^ | ive asked it on #gimp, but they said there is no plugin or something fo it |
| 16:24.00 | rgsteele | s/bzip2/bz2/ |
| 16:24.00 | cahoot | Math^: from what I can see gimps support forcmyk isn't without limitations |
| 16:24.07 | Zaggynl | so much for easy compressing stuff |
| 16:24.33 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Just remember, for compressing you want something like bzip2 or gzip. |
| 16:24.35 | Gnea | Math^: on which irc network was this #gimp located? |
| 16:24.47 | Math^ | Gnea: dont know |
| 16:24.49 | rgsteele | If you want to create a file archive, that's when you use tar |
| 16:24.52 | jetscreamer | irc.gimp.org iirc |
| 16:24.55 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, okay |
| 16:25.03 | cahoot | Math^: this fellow seems to know a bit on the subject: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/graphics_creation_on_gnulinux |
| 16:25.05 | Zaggynl | Now to get rid of this funny random tar file issue |
| 16:25.19 | Gnea | Math^: then your correlation to 'everyone' is not justified. |
| 16:25.22 | Zaggynl | How can apache generate a random tar file everytime I try to acces server:port |
| 16:25.22 | jetscreamer | Th CMYK GIMP plugin allows RGB -> CMYK separation within the GIMP, using littlecms for colour-management, and allows the result to be saved as a CMYK TIFF. |
| 16:25.22 | Math^ | anyway... thnx for all response |
| 16:25.39 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: tar xf blah.tar |
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| 16:25.53 | Math^ | Gnea: yea, ok... then i was bad informed |
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| 16:25.57 | Zaggynl | That's the point, I have no clue where apache gets the random file |
| 16:26.18 | panagos | how can i install debian etch offline (without netinst etc)? |
| 16:26.19 | Gnea | jetscreamer: right, but the only way to edit it via layers is to save it to XCF and go from there... a bit of a hack, yet functional |
| 16:26.28 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Look at your /etc/apache/httpd.conf.... see where it thinks the DocumentRoot is. |
| 16:26.34 | Zaggynl | okay |
| 16:26.38 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Which is, by default, /var/www |
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| 16:26.48 | Gnea | Math^: that's okay, it happens. glad you see the light :) |
| 16:26.54 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: I'm willing to bet there's a /var/www.tar or something similar. |
| 16:27.28 | Gnea | jetscreamer: heh, i just went to google and put in 'gimp cmyk' without the quotes and it was the first link |
| 16:27.28 | Math^ | Gnea: :) |
| 16:27.36 | Math^ | Gnea: but i have to compile it? |
| 16:27.44 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, there isn't :( and I use apache2, the httpd.conf is empty |
| 16:27.50 | Math^ | Gnea: are there deb files for it? |
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| 16:28.08 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Apache2? Try /etc/apache/conf.d |
| 16:28.17 | rgsteele | Or /etc/apache2/conf.d |
| 16:28.19 | rgsteele | or something like that. |
| 16:28.25 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, found it, it's /etc/apache2/apach2.conf |
| 16:28.30 | Zaggynl | *apache2.conf |
| 16:28.32 | Gnea | Math^: no idea, try apt-cache search <something> |
| 16:28.36 | Math^ | ok |
| 16:28.51 | jetscreamer | Gnea: i put cmyk gimp :) |
| 16:28.54 | rgsteele | Ok. Well, find the DocumentRoot, see where Apache2 thinks it ought to look for the web root. |
| 16:28.56 | Gnea | Math^: you may have to if there isn't... read the site and download the source and find out |
| 16:29.04 | Gnea | jetscreamer: hehe |
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| 16:29.19 | jetscreamer | yes there is a .deb for the cmyk plugin iirc |
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| 16:29.21 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Then, go to that directory and see if there's a tarball laying around in there. |
| 16:29.35 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search gimp | grep cmyk maybe |
| 16:29.35 | Zaggynl | Can't find DocumentRoot |
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| 16:30.22 | jetscreamer | dang my leet grep din werk |
| 16:30.25 | Math^ | what happend Rydekull |
| 16:31.10 | Math^ | Rydekull: i saw 10 private messages in one time |
| 16:31.10 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: cd /etc/apache2; find . -type f -exec grep -i "DocumentRoot" {} \; |
| 16:31.13 | Gnea | LMFAO |
| 16:31.40 | Kevin` | W: GPG error: http://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 16:31.40 | Kevin` | ? |
| 16:31.42 | stew | Kevin`: /topic |
| 16:31.43 | Math^ | :) |
| 16:31.46 | jetscreamer | ke... nm |
| 16:31.48 | Math^ | Kevin`: add the key |
| 16:31.55 | Gnea | rgsteele: cd /etc/apache2; rgrep DocumentRoot * |
| 16:32.06 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, it gives back 'DocumentRoot /var/www' |
| 16:32.36 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: cd /var/www, ls *.tar |
| 16:32.38 | Kevin` | ty |
| 16:32.59 | Zaggynl | rgsteele, no such file or directory |
| 16:33.12 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: cd /var; ls *.tar |
| 16:33.16 | rgsteele | Sorry |
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| 16:33.26 | Zaggynl | None found :( |
| 16:33.27 | rgsteele | Gnea: Nice, rgrep will buy me a few more years before carpal tunnel kicks in :) |
| 16:33.35 | Zaggynl | That's what I thought to, the file had to be there |
| 16:33.38 | Gnea | :D |
| 16:33.56 | Zaggynl | Extracted them all, restarted apache a few times, still hands out random tar files |
| 16:34.10 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: find / -name <name of the file> :) |
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| 16:34.24 | Zaggynl | There is no static file |
| 16:34.28 | Zaggynl | It's random everytime you try |
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| 16:35.38 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: I'm surprised gunzip even allowed you to unzip a .tar that wasn't gzipped |
| 16:35.51 | Zaggynl | Yeah, I didn't really know what I was dong |
| 16:35.56 | Zaggynl | *doing |
| 16:36.09 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Did you have anything important in your web root? |
| 16:36.13 | Zaggynl | nah |
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| 16:36.22 | Aladin_ | If i encrypt my swap-partition, does I lose the suspend-to-disk feature? |
| 16:36.27 | rgsteele | apt-get remove purge apache2; apt-get install apache2 |
| 16:36.40 | Zaggynl | hmm, drastic, but might do the trick yes |
| 16:36.52 | Zaggynl | s/might/will |
| 16:36.53 | Rydekull | rgsteele: whats the problem anyway? |
| 16:37.01 | rgsteele | Zaggynl: Well, since you've got nothing useful in there, and you've really hosed the apache installation, you might as well save yourself the trouble. |
| 16:37.15 | Zaggynl | Rydekull, I tried to tar my www folder, and now it spits out random tar files everytime I try to access localhost:port |
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| 16:37.41 | rgsteele | Rydekull: He apparently tarred up his web root, then tried to gunzip it (still not sure how that's even possible) and his web root no longer exists. |
| 16:37.54 | Rydekull | rgsteele: shouldnt be |
| 16:37.56 | rgsteele | Rydekull: I'm still not sure quite what he did :) |
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| 16:38.13 | Zaggynl | Well the funny part is, just http://localhost:port gives me the random stuff, everything else, like http://localhost:port/test works |
| 16:38.17 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: did you follow exact instructions? Hand us your history in a pastebin and we can see? :) |
| 16:38.35 | Zaggynl | okay, sec |
| 16:38.44 | Zaggynl | uhm |
| 16:38.52 | Zaggynl | How do I get my bash history in an editor? |
| 16:39.03 | rgsteele | history > foobley |
| 16:39.07 | Rydekull | vi ~/.bash_history |
| 16:39.15 | Zaggynl | thanks |
| 16:39.15 | rgsteele | then open up foobley in your favorite editor |
| 16:39.20 | rgsteele | or do what Rydekull said |
| 16:39.46 | rgsteele | Rydekull: Actually, He probably doesn't want to edit the bash history directly |
| 16:39.51 | rgsteele | Likely to hose that too. |
| 16:39.53 | rgsteele | :) |
| 16:40.06 | Rydekull | haha, there's a chance, yes |
| 16:40.14 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: quit with ":q!" |
| 16:40.23 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: nothing but that, dont want you to mess that file up too |
| 16:40.34 | Zaggynl | I did it with gedit |
| 16:40.40 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: no offence meant, just being on the safe side :) |
| 16:41.31 | Zaggynl | http://www.pastebin.ca/378607 |
| 16:41.41 | Zaggynl | I removed the top of my history |
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| 16:41.55 | Zaggynl | There seems to be a lot missing |
| 16:43.27 | jetscreamer | it has a size limit iirc |
| 16:43.33 | Zaggynl | darn |
| 16:43.41 | jetscreamer | but it's a big limit |
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| 16:43.55 | Zaggynl | well, I could just press up and see where I'll come |
| 16:43.59 | jetscreamer | if you did not log out it may not be in there.. not sure |
| 16:44.06 | Zaggynl | I did a reboot :( |
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| 16:44.22 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: wc -l ~/.bash_history |
| 16:44.50 | Zaggynl | 500 |
| 16:45.12 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: and we see 21 in that pastebin, lines that is. Im missing some :) |
| 16:45.34 | Zaggynl | true, okay, I'll paste the rest, but it doesn't have to do with this I think |
| 16:45.59 | Zaggynl | http://www.pastebin.ca/378614 |
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| 16:47.30 | Rydekull | I'll prolly be satisfied with like.. something that can tell me where I am compared to / :) |
| 16:47.31 | Zaggynl | I can't find the command in there myself |
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| 16:47.32 | Rydekull | I did |
| 16:47.32 | Zaggynl | When I issued it, every file in www was compressed and replaced the original files |
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| 16:47.39 | RvGaTe | wireddd, can i close the qemu launcer when a vm has started ? |
| 16:48.40 | wireddd | RvGaTe: I don't know |
| 16:48.51 | wireddd | I'll try it |
| 16:49.01 | Math^ | anyone know how to compile a source? |
| 16:49.03 | amphi | RvGaTe: close the term you ran it from? |
| 16:49.07 | jetscreamer | ok anybody know how to fix iceweasel not honoring the default homepage? |
| 16:49.17 | jetscreamer | it's going to mozilla/ff |
| 16:49.29 | Zaggynl | Math^, make |
| 16:49.30 | simonrvn | dpkg -P iceweasel; apt-get install iceape ? |
| 16:49.32 | wireddd | amphi: he isn't asking how |
| 16:49.33 | jetscreamer | it thinks it's the first run? |
| 16:49.36 | Zaggynl | rofl |
| 16:49.39 | jetscreamer | i have iceape too |
| 16:49.43 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: so, according to that log you provided |
| 16:49.50 | ruben | anyone know how to get the netjack driver to work with jack in debian? |
| 16:50.00 | jetscreamer | Starting calendar alarm service |
| 16:50.01 | jetscreamer | error creating table cal_calendars -- probably already exists |
| 16:50.01 | jetscreamer | error creating table cal_calendars_prefs -- probably already exists |
| 16:50.01 | jetscreamer | *** Calendar schema version is: 4 |
| 16:50.01 | jetscreamer | observer added |
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| 16:50.04 | RvGaTe | wireddd, i tried, looks like everything still works |
| 16:50.04 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to rotate 3d gnuplot output? |
| 16:50.11 | Math^ | Zaggynl: make, make says: nothing to do |
| 16:50.14 | Math^ | :) |
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| 16:50.19 | simonrvn | i get that too, it's useless garbage |
| 16:50.20 | jetscreamer | a shit sorry |
| 16:50.21 | amphi | wireddd: well, whether the vm terminates or not depends on the how... |
| 16:50.25 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: the current situation is that every file under /var/www has been compressed into .gz(due to gzip -r) and /var/www itself has been made into /var/www.tar.gz |
| 16:50.28 | Zaggynl | Math^ make <filename> |
| 16:50.31 | jetscreamer | i did /exec -o... duh |
| 16:50.35 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 16:50.36 | wireddd | RvGaTe: yeah you can |
| 16:50.42 | x_link | stoned: No, the download was done a long time ago =) |
| 16:50.49 | jetscreamer | observer removed |
| 16:50.50 | Zaggynl | Rydekull, that's what happened, I reverted most of it with gunzip I thik |
| 16:50.54 | Math^ | Zaggynl: kom ff op ubuntu-nl :P |
| 16:51.00 | Zaggynl | ben ik al |
| 16:51.03 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: so where is your problem? :) |
| 16:51.04 | jetscreamer | ah shit no more /exec for me |
| 16:51.04 | simonrvn | 'k, got stuff to do, bbiab |
| 16:51.05 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 16:51.06 | wireddd | RvGaTe: btw ctrl-alt ungrabs the mouse |
| 16:51.08 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 16:51.09 | Zaggynl | Rydekull, it still spits out the random pages |
| 16:51.17 | RvGaTe | wireddd, yup, says so in the window title |
| 16:51.19 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: what random pages? |
| 16:51.29 | jetscreamer | simonrvn: iceape works fine btw |
| 16:51.32 | Zaggynl | Rydekull, lemme change my portforwarding, you'll see |
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| 16:51.39 | RvGaTe | wireddd, any shortcuts? like full screen etc ? |
| 16:51.40 | simonrvn | yeh it does |
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| 16:53.05 | x_link | stoned: I just did the dpkg -i for your file, just smc.x now? |
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| 16:53.18 | x_link | stoned: Ohh. it didn't work |
| 16:54.54 | Zaggynl | Rydekull, hmm, when I try to access it via my outside IP, it works fine |
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| 16:55.12 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: ok? |
| 16:55.20 | simonrvn | re |
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| 16:57.33 | assasukasse | is there anyone that knows what happened to streamtuner live365 module? is 2 years is broken, nobody is developing it? |
| 16:58.12 | GMouse | I'm getting a kernel panic after my system is up and running for an hour or two, but the memory checks out in memtest and fsck tells me that things are clean. So, I'm having difficulty isolating the issue. |
| 16:58.35 | concept10 | assasukasse, abandonware |
| 16:58.51 | simonrvn | GMouse: anything in kern.log or syslog? |
| 16:58.54 | sepski | GMouse, overheating ? |
| 16:58.56 | rgsteele | GMouse: kern.log |
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| 16:59.19 | assasukasse | concept10, is there anything that can take its place? another package? |
| 16:59.27 | GMouse | Naught in syslog. Doubtful that it's overheating. Don't have it hooked up to check kern.log. |
| 16:59.36 | Rydekull | rgsteele: anyways, the reason you didnt found a tar is since it's a tar.gz |
| 16:59.52 | GMouse | What information would kern.log take down? I copied the crash screen, if that's what's in it. |
| 17:00.06 | rgsteele | Rydekull: He said he didn't gzip it, only tarred it... just going off of his info. |
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| 17:00.11 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: same goes to you, try and remember what you name the files |
| 17:00.16 | Zaggynl | confusing |
| 17:00.19 | concept10 | assasukasse, I listen to shoutcast only, so I wouldnt know. Im sure there is something out there |
| 17:00.36 | jetscreamer | gd what a pita |
| 17:00.39 | Rydekull | rgsteele: Well, he didnt in his mind, but he made it with z(tar -czvf) and named it www.tar.gz |
| 17:00.53 | Zaggynl | When I try to access it by localhost, it gives me tar files, when I try it's ip, it works |
| 17:01.11 | Rydekull | rgsteele: and no matter if he gziped it or not, if he named the file .tar.gz it will still be named .tar.gz no matter if it's actually gzipped or not ;) |
| 17:01.34 | rgsteele | Rydekull: Yup. |
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| 17:01.45 | rgsteele | He didn't say it was called anything .gz though. |
| 17:01.56 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: read your apache log |
| 17:02.03 | Zaggynl | oki |
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| 17:02.18 | stew | Zaggynl: are the two methods hitting two different virtualhosts? |
| 17:02.47 | Zaggynl | stew, not that I know |
| 17:02.55 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: might go with the error log too for that matter :) |
| 17:03.15 | Rydekull | rgsteele: aye aye, he should've said the exact command, but for the future, if they dont, ask for it :) |
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| 17:03.34 | DogWater | anyone know if there is a way to pxeboot the debian installer? |
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| 17:03.37 | Rydekull | Zaggynl: in the future when ya need help with something ya did, give the exact command you executed :) |
| 17:03.43 | Rydekull | DogWater: yes, netboot |
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| 17:03.51 | DogWater | Rydekull: oh, thats the only way? |
| 17:03.54 | Rydekull | DogWater: ready package, search repositories |
| 17:04.03 | DogWater | cause that doesnt really work with any hardware past 1998 |
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| 17:04.14 | Rydekull | DogWater: come again? |
| 17:04.25 | Rydekull | DogWater: of course it does? it's a regular pxeboot with syslinux |
| 17:04.41 | DogWater | yeah, in dmesg it says "this is bug, needs to be fixed" for my sata controller on a completely plain vanilla s3000 motherboard |
| 17:05.19 | rgsteele | Rydekull: Heh, at least dmesg is honest ^_^ |
| 17:05.32 | rgsteele | bah, s/Rydekull/DogWater/ |
| 17:05.36 | Rydekull | rgsteele: ;) |
| 17:05.48 | abrotman | !ig |
| 17:05.49 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html for x86 Etch/Tesing (all ARCHs and in various formats for Etch listed here http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/ ) , or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Sarge/Stable (3.1,3.1r4). |
| 17:06.11 | Rydekull | !releases |
| 17:06.11 | dpkg | methinks releases is See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. see <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 17:06.12 | abrotman | DogWater: you need a tftp server .. the IG talks about it |
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| 17:06.34 | Rydekull | abrotman: I'd say he needs a newer release of debian, like, etch? |
| 17:06.45 | DogWater | yeah, i already have a pxe tftp/dhcp server setup |
| 17:06.58 | DogWater | I'm just looking for the kernel/initrd i need to use to boot the netinstall |
| 17:07.00 | rgsteele | Erm, the support is in the kernel Rydekull, no? |
| 17:07.07 | abrotman | Rydekull: sarge has the tftp install also |
| 17:07.15 | abrotman | as have releases for quite some time |
| 17:07.28 | rgsteele | Oh, I thought we were talking mobo compatibility. |
| 17:07.28 | Rydekull | abrotman: Yes, but not a newer kernel fitting his sata controller? |
| 17:07.41 | DogWater | I have the 3.1r5 iso mounted and i cannot find the kernel/initrd for the netboot, etc |
| 17:08.06 | Math^ | that gimp cmyk plugin does not work... |
| 17:08.08 | Rydekull | DogWater: go to a repo, search the places, there is a netboot in there, if not, google it |
| 17:08.31 | DogWater | bah i guess i'll just use the good ole backports version of the installer |
| 17:09.09 | Rydekull | DogWater: you're making me annoyed by being lazy |
| 17:09.14 | Math^ | what's the server? irc.gimp.com ? |
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| 17:09.58 | DogWater | Rydekull: i have the latest netboot stuff in my pxe server, the kernel doesnt support the hardware, not sure how i'm being lazy |
| 17:10.32 | abrotman | Rydekull: for dogwater ? |
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| 17:10.45 | abrotman | ah .. he can try the etch installer |
| 17:10.53 | stoned | x_link: huh? |
| 17:11.08 | stoned | x_link: no the binary is just smc |
| 17:11.15 | Rydekull | abrotman: yes, that's what im saying :) |
| 17:11.24 | abrotman | it's okay .. you're still drunk |
| 17:11.25 | Rydekull | DogWater: definte "the latest" |
| 17:11.36 | x_link | stoned: I downloaded the file from your site, did dpkg -i, then smc.x doesn't work. |
| 17:11.37 | Rydekull | DogWater: define too |
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| 17:11.48 | stoned | x_link: because the binary isn't called smc.x |
| 17:11.50 | Rydekull | abrotman: that'd be really surprising :) |
| 17:11.58 | x_link | stoned: Okey, what is it called? |
| 17:12.03 | stoned | x_link: smc |
| 17:12.03 | abrotman | it's okay .. the first step is admitting you have a problem :) |
| 17:12.08 | x_link | stoned: ok |
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| 17:12.27 | Rydekull | abrotman: I'll try. Atleast I sound like a drunk this week so I guess it'd fit in. |
| 17:12.29 | GothicFolk | Hi |
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| 17:12.40 | GothicFolk | i have 2 network interfaces |
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| 17:12.47 | GothicFolk | one eth0 and eth1 |
| 17:12.48 | eps | some one appears to have hacked my debian unstable system (well they have an active ssh connection to it right now :() - the issue is that all of my passwords are rather secure (8chars mixed num/let with no dictionary words and no activity suggesting brute force) ...so are there any current security alerts out for debian at the moment? |
| 17:12.49 | stoned | x_link: install libcegui |
| 17:12.51 | Rydekull | abrotman: must be the bacteriakilling fluid for the throat that has 96% etanol in it |
| 17:13.01 | stoned | x_link: apt-cache search libcegui |
| 17:13.07 | x_link | ok |
| 17:13.09 | Rydekull | eps: take it off the net |
| 17:13.11 | GothicFolk | eth1 is an onboard card |
| 17:13.12 | x_link | I installed one libcegui |
| 17:13.28 | GothicFolk | and eth0 is an pci card |
| 17:13.36 | stoned | x_link: libcegui-mk2-0c2a |
| 17:13.44 | x_link | Yes |
| 17:13.59 | GothicFolk | how do i force eth0 to be the onboard |
| 17:14.04 | x_link | I already installed that one stoned |
| 17:14.05 | GothicFolk | and eth1 to be the external one? |
| 17:14.09 | eps | Rydekull I will in a minute when I've got all the information about their connection as I can. |
| 17:14.19 | Rydekull | GothicFolk: apt-cache search ifrename |
| 17:14.24 | cahoot | GothicFolk: using udev? |
| 17:14.36 | Rydekull | eps: arp -a && netstat -na <-- throw them into files |
| 17:15.03 | Rydekull | eps: take it off the net and then get a rootkitchecker(rkhunter, chkrootkit) |
| 17:15.13 | eps | I already ran chkrootkit |
| 17:15.14 | stoned | x_link: dpkg -L libcegui-mk2-0c2a|grep libCEGUIBase |
| 17:15.17 | Rydekull | eps: do they find anything, backup important things that you can validate arent touched, reinstall |
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| 17:15.33 | Rydekull | eps: if they dont, try and find the way in and make sure you fix every way in, get a firewall |
| 17:15.34 | eps | Searching for OBSD rk v1... /usr/lib/security |
| 17:15.35 | eps | /usr/lib/security/classpath.security |
| 17:15.39 | eps | that was the only thing without nothing found |
| 17:15.46 | eps | though I don't understand the read out |
| 17:15.50 | stoned | x_link: afaik that package provides /usr/lib/libCEGUIBase.so.1 |
| 17:15.52 | Rydekull | eps: rootkitted, reinstall |
| 17:16.03 | GothicFolk | cahoot how do i do it using udev? |
| 17:16.06 | cahoot | GothicFolk: *if* you use udev then you can edit /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules to your liking |
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| 17:16.14 | earthian | hello |
| 17:16.14 | GothicFolk | is there any config file where i set up this? |
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| 17:16.27 | GothicFolk | let me see :P |
| 17:16.31 | eald | I'm trying E2K_DEBUG=5 /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/evolution-exchange-storage and I don't get usual debug, any knows why? |
| 17:16.33 | Rydekull | DogWater: since you arent defining latest and made me annoyed by your seemingly lazyness |
| 17:16.36 | Rydekull | DogWater: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/debian-installer/i386 |
| 17:16.39 | GothicFolk | no udeohh |
| 17:16.40 | x_link | stoned: I did that command now. Still can't open it. |
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| 17:16.50 | earthian | i want to create a picture that would be displayed during the boot-time. Can somebody help me? I need guidance.. |
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| 17:16.56 | GothicFolk | no udev, it's a 2.4 kernel... that have something to do with it? |
| 17:16.56 | stoned | x_link: its not a command, it just shows you if you have the file or not |
| 17:17.01 | stoned | do you have /usr/lib/libCEGUIBase.so.1 |
| 17:17.04 | stoned | ? |
| 17:17.09 | earthian | i think that picture is called "boot splash" |
| 17:17.10 | x_link | I meant the other one. |
| 17:17.16 | x_link | But I will look for that one now. |
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| 17:17.31 | x_link | stoned: No, I don't have that one |
| 17:17.36 | stoned | hmm |
| 17:17.40 | stoned | thats why the game won't run |
| 17:17.49 | stoned | in sid the package I told you provides this file |
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| 17:18.49 | stoned | Depends: libcegui-mk2-0c2a |
| 17:18.51 | Rydekull | x_link: apt-get install libcegui-mk2-0c2a |
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| 17:19.09 | x_link | Rydekull: Jag already did that command |
| 17:19.10 | stoned | x_link: this is one of the depends for the game |
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| 17:19.21 | benderz0r | Rydekull: thanks for that; am I good to just kill off / and not my /home? (eps) |
| 17:19.35 | benderz0r | or clean out home of none important .files and folders and keep using it |
| 17:19.46 | x_link | stoned: Okey. I have done the command that Mr. Rydekull just wrote. |
| 17:19.49 | stoned | x_link: search for that file in packages.debian.org |
| 17:19.59 | x_link | ok |
| 17:20.01 | earthian | I have I think all packages installed and still I do not have a splash image. What do I need to set to enable them? |
| 17:20.06 | stoned | Rydekull: don't think of these are mere commands, but what they are trying to do |
| 17:20.09 | stoned | understand them |
| 17:20.13 | simonrvn | benderz0r: btw, just in case you didn't know, they're called dot files |
| 17:20.14 | stoned | er.. |
| 17:20.16 | stoned | wrong guy |
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| 17:20.28 | Rydekull | stoned: :) |
| 17:20.30 | stoned | Rydekull: x_link* |
| 17:20.36 | benderz0r | simonrvn: was never specifically sure; thanks :p |
| 17:20.36 | stoned | word |
| 17:20.45 | simonrvn | sentence |
| 17:20.54 | stoned | no man, word |
| 17:21.03 | simonrvn | prefix |
| 17:21.14 | simonrvn | hi ;) |
| 17:21.18 | stoned | x_link: hello there |
| 17:21.20 | stoned | er.. |
| 17:21.21 | stoned | fuck |
| 17:21.23 | stoned | simonrvn: whats up man |
| 17:21.26 | Rydekull | benderz0r: err, i'd try and clean out most things |
| 17:21.30 | Rydekull | stoned: not your day today |
| 17:22.06 | simonrvn | not much, having a good day so far, despite being harrassed by on-line racists |
| 17:22.07 | benderz0r | is it worth turning off root login in sshd? or is it an annoyance (it's a warning in rkhunter) |
| 17:22.26 | Rydekull | benderz0r: and, in the future, also try and find out about fstab and noexec/nosuid |
| 17:22.27 | simonrvn | yes turn it off |
| 17:22.32 | Rydekull | benderz0r: yes, should always be turned off |
| 17:22.38 | Rydekull | benderz0r: never use root unless have to |
| 17:22.41 | stoned | x_link: ahh I think uhh |
| 17:22.53 | Rydekull | benderz0r: so dont leave the possibility open for others to use it either |
| 17:22.59 | benderz0r | Rydekull: what about fstab? |
| 17:23.54 | benderz0r | I am still very interested how some one could have gotten in; all of my passwords aren't brute forceable (without my knowledge that is) |
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| 17:24.23 | Rydekull | benderz0r: all passwords are bruteforceable, it just takes a really really really long time. Or a very good computer(s) |
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| 17:24.32 | stoned | x_link: ln -s /usr/lib/libCEGUIBase.so.0 /usr/lib/libCEGUIBase.so.1 <-- try this |
| 17:24.36 | stoned | x_link: as root |
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| 17:25.10 | stoned | x_link: you can delete the link if it doesn't work |
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| 17:25.34 | benderz0r | Rydekull: that is my point; it would take months to brute force any of the three passwords in use on this box and I'd notice as I'm using ssh all the time - and I'm the only one who has access to the pc physically - plus I'd see the net usage |
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| 17:25.48 | anson | does anyone know how to get your volume buttons on a laptop working? |
| 17:25.57 | ctp | hi folks. how to find out which encoding is used on a host? |
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| 17:26.10 | simonrvn | type locale |
| 17:26.30 | benderz0r | I only have port 22, 80, and an obscure upper one open as well (for a secure php application - which has yet again another pw with no root access) |
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| 17:28.11 | jcole | dpkg -x vmwareworkstation_5.5.3-34686_i386.deb vmwareworkstation_5.5.3-34686_i386 |
| 17:28.23 | jcole | what is the flag for extract the post/pre scripts? |
| 17:29.28 | benderz0r | is there a way to dump a list of all installed applications via aptitude/apt-get? |
| 17:29.43 | ctp | simonrvn: it's all set to POSIX as encoding |
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| 17:30.18 | jcole | benderz0r: COLUMNS=100 dpkg -l |
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| 17:31.07 | stew | benderz0r: "aptitude search \~i" ; or "dpkg -l | grep ^.i" |
| 17:31.15 | benderz0r | thanks |
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| 17:31.25 | benderz0r | even better |
| 17:32.14 | jcole | benderz0r: what stew said with aptitude is best |
| 17:32.14 | benderz0r | at least reinstalling is far easier under linux than windows :p |
| 17:32.41 | stew | !selections |
| 17:32.41 | dpkg | [ffs copy] run "dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt" on the source, copy foo.txt to the destination and run "dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" on the destination. |
| 17:32.49 | stew | benderz0r: its sounding like you might want this ^^^ |
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| 17:33.50 | benderz0r | :D |
| 17:33.59 | benderz0r | very much so; I was wondering if I could do that |
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| 17:35.32 | benderz0r | just a bit annoyed I wont be able to trust any of my server config files or their setups without going over everything |
| 17:35.56 | Rydekull | that's what's bothersome with getting a visitor :) |
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| 17:36.20 | VImtermute | oy |
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| 17:37.00 | benderz0r | heh luckily they didn't get a chance to upload/download to much (I noticed it within an hour) - as I'm in australia with a pesky 2gig download limit. I'll have to go out to the uni tomorrow to get access to the debian mirrors for free :| |
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| 17:37.48 | dxdemetriou | can I recompile my whole os from i386 to athlon? I tried apt-build but gives i386 |
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| 17:38.04 | Eulex | dxdemetriou, debtoo, eh? |
| 17:38.28 | dxdemetriou | Eulex, no, I just try to test this way :) |
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| 17:39.49 | Eulex | dxdemetriou, iirc there's a config file where you can change what arch it compiles for. but why do you need/want to? |
| 17:40.13 | spzsk | fdformat /dev/fd0..it says no such dir.. how can i create boot diskette? |
| 17:40.25 | anson | anyone know how to get your volume buttons working for your laptop |
| 17:41.00 | cahoot | anson: lineak maybe |
| 17:41.45 | dkr | any idea why after etch update and reboot I get a 640x480 resolution and xorg.0.log says, "(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1600x1200" (no mode of this name)" |
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| 17:42.06 | dkr | been using 1600x1200 for many months/years |
| 17:43.04 | dxdemetriou | Eulex, I have changes to the apt-build.conf (mtune= -mtune=athlon-xp) the march and mcpu don't work, and when build the packages make them with i386 and -02 instead of -03. I just try to learn how can be the performance of my pc after |
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| 17:43.17 | dummy | what is the difference between 2.6-k7 and 2.6.18-4-k7 |
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| 17:43.32 | Rydekull | dkr: your /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably got changed |
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| 17:43.43 | stew | dummy: 2.6-k7 is just a dummy package that depends on whatever the lastest 2.6 is |
| 17:44.03 | dummy | so i get 2.6-k7 i just get newest? |
| 17:44.11 | dkr | Rydekull: well I obviously looked and it still says 1600x1200. (otherwise the log wouldn't be saying 1600x1200 is invalid, right? |
| 17:44.54 | dkr | stat shows Modify: 2007-01-02 |
| 17:44.59 | RvGaTe | for some reason my virtual machine installation sticks at 39minutes remaining... (qemu and winxp) no idea why it stays there... anyone had any experience with this on qemu? |
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| 17:45.50 | dummy | what is the 4 in 2.6.18-4-k7 the other machine is 2.6.18-3 and on this machine all apt-cache search shows is -4 |
| 17:45.57 | dkr | going to try 16 instead of 24 bpp |
| 17:46.19 | karsten | RvGaTe: You can attach a debugger (gdb) directly to the VM. Might want to do that and see what's happening there. |
| 17:46.24 | stew | dummy: -4 is the 4th debian revision of the 2.6.18 kernel |
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| 17:48.01 | dkr | that worked, I'm back to 1600x1200 by changing default bpp from 24 to 16. I wonder why 24 bpp doesn't work anymore |
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| 17:49.25 | RvGaTe | karsten, how would i do that |
| 17:49.28 | RvGaTe | ? |
| 17:49.28 | dummy | why does one apt-cache search on one machine show 2.6.18-3 and the other show 2.6.18-4 ? |
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| 17:50.16 | jcole | dkr: lspci | grep VGA |
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| 17:50.58 | dkr | you could have just asked me, I know it is intel 845G :) |
| 17:51.03 | Eulex | dummy, because one has newer package lists than the other |
| 17:51.30 | abrotman | stew: 4th binary revision |
| 17:51.31 | TD-Linux | hello... I attempted to put an etch netinst on my flash drive. I used the guide at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en, the current etch netinst iso, and vmlinuz/initrd.gz from an archive mirror. |
| 17:51.45 | stew | abrotman: 4th source revision |
| 17:52.09 | TD-Linux | However, after searching for iso's, it can't find any kernel modules, which it says is probably due to a mismatch. |
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| 17:52.44 | TD-Linux | I've tried a couple different vmlinuz/initrd.gz pairs so far, they all give the same error. |
| 17:53.19 | dummy | is it linux kernel now |
| 17:53.27 | abrotman | stew: Linux version 2.6.18-4-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-11) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Wed Feb 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 |
| 17:53.32 | dummy | kernel image linux image ?? |
| 17:53.33 | abrotman | stew: what is -11 ? |
| 17:53.39 | stew | oh, hmm |
| 17:53.57 | stew | abrotman: yeah, i was confused |
| 17:54.11 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 17:54.16 | stew | !nopony stew |
| 17:54.16 | dpkg | stew: http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg |
| 17:55.01 | TD-Linux | anyway, here's where I got my current images: ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media (sorry for the long url) |
| 17:57.18 | jcole | TD-Linux: you'll at least need your usb modules in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
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| 17:57.19 | Rydekull | !daily |
| 17:57.19 | dkr | jcole: I had put off updates for a bit: grep 'status installed' dpkg.log|wc -l shows I updated 149 packages including xserver-xorg. but I don't see any likely culprits in the changelog. just some minor stuff and some dependency modifications |
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| 17:57.19 | phan______ | anone know a good mb with good sata raid support? |
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| 17:57.20 | jcole | dkr: 915resolution - resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset |
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| 17:57.20 | jcole | dkr: i've had to use that package at times |
| 17:57.33 | frostschutz | I'm just trying to install etch from the net installer cd, and after selecting the partitions and mount points it tells me: ERROR!!! File system has an incompatible feature enabled. - Is there a log somewhere that'd tell me which error actually occurred? |
| 17:57.41 | jcole | dkr: configure the intel bios before X starts |
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| 17:58.04 | jcole | frostschutz: ctrl-alt-f3 |
| 17:58.08 | TD-Linux | jcole: on the iso? what is that directory relative to? |
| 17:58.14 | dkr | jcole: yeah, I used that at home before. but this is an etch system that was working fine and only broke after normal updates... so I'm hoping to find out what the change was that broke things so I can report it |
| 17:58.41 | abrotman | hi damog |
| 17:59.21 | jcole | TD-Linux: the modules would be inserted into the initrd.gz |
| 17:59.52 | damog | abrotman: hey |
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| 18:00.02 | frostschutz | jcole: F3 is just a regular shell, there's some debug output on F4 but no error messages |
| 18:00.33 | abrotman | hi damog |
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| 18:01.06 | jcole | TD-Linux: this looks similar to the guide you pasted -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/446 |
| 18:01.25 | JordiGH | 83 rc bigs! |
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| 18:01.29 | JordiGH | bugs |
| 18:01.37 | jcole | frostschutz: you can also ctrl-alt-f2 and poke around in /var/log |
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| 18:04.20 | TD-Linux | jcole: the only difference is it says to mount sda instead of sda1... that seems wrong |
| 18:04.49 | frostschutz | jcole: right, in /var/log/partman there's a message: OUT: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. - which doesn't tell me much |
| 18:05.35 | TD-Linux | neither guide says anything about adding usb modules |
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| 18:08.05 | damog | abrotman: hey |
| 18:08.17 | abrotman | hi damog |
| 18:08.57 | frostschutz | jcole: I let it reformat all partitions, now it worked *shrug* :-) weird |
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| 18:09.18 | TD-Linux | From the logs, it finds the iso... but it can't find contrib/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages or Packages.gz |
| 18:09.36 | NewNeo | Dont be Fooled anymore! Educate yourself to what is right in front of your face! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMn9v7JxPDI&mode=related&search= |
| 18:10.22 | Verte | hi guys, I've used the online debian installer on a windows machine and I'm quite lost. GRUB has lost my linux partition. do I need to reformat and reinstall? or is this normal? |
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| 18:10.30 | jcole | TD-Linux: after looking at the debian installer, it appears it now automagically loads usb modules if needed |
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| 18:11.17 | factotum | it was odd the first time i plugged in my digicam and had it recognized right off |
| 18:11.41 | Ronin | ya whatever NewNeo |
| 18:11.44 | Verte | running sarge on an x86 with 2.6.18 xen 686 kernel |
| 18:11.59 | TD-Linux | yes, it mounts and loads the iso |
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| 18:12.12 | queuetue | The debian xen install doesn't seem to have a /etc/xen/auto ... how do I set up configs to start at boot? |
| 18:12.23 | jcole | Verte: bios order of the drives can be different while and after an install... try to hit 'e' to edit the linux boot line and change the "hd(1,0)" (or whatever) to something like "hd(0,0)" |
| 18:12.39 | Verte | aah thanks |
| 18:12.42 | factotum | im having a first, dealing with a large (250gb) hard drive, should I move away from ext3 in favor of something else? |
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| 18:12.43 | Verte | what are the numbers? |
| 18:13.00 | jcole | Verte: depends on the system |
| 18:13.08 | Verte | ok |
| 18:13.11 | Verte | ty! |
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| 18:13.45 | jcole | Verte: the bios order of the drives changed when the cd booted and installed... then after reboot to the hd, the bios order went back to "normal" |
| 18:13.47 | Hilaus | what's the best to install apache and php, by apt-get or manually? |
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| 18:14.10 | Rydekull | Hilaus: apt-get install apache2 php5 |
| 18:14.27 | factotum | Hilaus: if you plan on going with .dpkg's it wont matter much either way |
| 18:14.38 | factotum | from source...well, thats different |
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| 18:14.48 | Rydekull | factotum: .deb's you mean? |
| 18:14.51 | stew | factotum: what doesn't matter either way? |
| 18:14.52 | jcole | Hilaus: after what Rydekull said, do an "a2enmod php5" |
| 18:15.02 | factotum | duuuuhh...sorry yep |
| 18:15.08 | Rydekull | jcole: shouldnt be needed? |
| 18:15.27 | jcole | Hilaus: php4 is compatible with more apps though... |
| 18:15.30 | factotum | <usually on slackware |
| 18:16.00 | Hilaus | ah, ok, thx |
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| 18:19.30 | jeward | How/where do I fix: |
| 18:19.31 | jeward | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/t.php on line 5 |
| 18:19.43 | jeward | I believe I have all the right packages installed. |
| 18:20.01 | jeward | phpmyadmin works... |
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| 18:20.05 | corpcomp | How would I find out what applications/packages are installed on a "sarge" server? |
| 18:20.12 | jcole | Rydekull: you're right, it should autorun it, but just in case he's installed previous version etc. |
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| 18:20.27 | Rydekull | jeward: php4/5-mysql perhaps? Just a guess though |
| 18:20.40 | jeward | Rydekull: What do you mean? |
| 18:20.52 | Rydekull | jcole: ok |
| 18:20.56 | Rydekull | jeward: the packages |
| 18:20.57 | jeward | Rydekull: Oh, phpmyadmin is using one and my script the other? |
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| 18:21.18 | Rydekull | jeward: do you have them installed rather |
| 18:21.34 | jeward | Rydekull: Oh, yes, as I said phpmyadmin works. |
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| 18:21.58 | jeward | Rydekull: It's just my own script that doesn't work. |
| 18:21.58 | Rydekull | jeward: that didnt answer my question |
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| 18:22.12 | jeward | Rydekull: Okay, I guess I don't understand your question. |
| 18:22.35 | jeward | Rydekull: Can you restate it another way? |
| 18:22.46 | Rydekull | jeward: dont worry about it if its "just your own script" that doesnt work. Then I dont need to try and find a answer |
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| 18:24.01 | jeward | Rydekull: What information can I give you? |
| 18:24.17 | TD-Linux | odd... the path it's looking in for debian-installer is inside a file, though debian-installer exists in a nearby directory |
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| 18:25.21 | ebw | I have some GNUstep application installed and now there is a new daemon running: gdomap. Unfortunately there seems to be no documentation about it's configuration files. |
| 18:25.38 | ebw | Does someone know, where to find the docs? |
| 18:25.44 | stew | tarzeau probably does |
| 18:25.55 | stew | ebw: did you check /usr/share/doc/$packagename |
| 18:26.11 | stew | ebw: and "dpkg -L packagename | grep man" |
| 18:26.28 | jeward | If phpmyadmin works, why do I get: |
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| 18:26.31 | jeward | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/t.php on line 5? |
| 18:26.52 | stew | jeward: install php[4,5]-mysql |
| 18:26.56 | corpcomp | ebw: http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Tools/Reference/gdomap.html |
| 18:27.09 | jeward | stew: php was instaled and ius used by phpmyadmin? |
| 18:27.25 | stew | jeward: is php-mysql insatlled? |
| 18:27.27 | Rydekull | jeward: really, we have never doubted that |
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| 18:27.43 | Rydekull | jeward: both me and stew have now asked if you got either of those two packages installed |
| 18:27.54 | Rydekull | jeward: can you please check it up and answer us if you do or not? |
| 18:27.58 | jeward | i A php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4 |
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| 18:28.28 | stew | jeward: make sure /etc/php4/apache/php.ini contains "extension=mysql.so" substitude apahce2 if you uase apache2 |
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| 18:28.37 | ebw | stew and corpcomp: The manpage and the gnustep reference does not contain the documentation about the configuration file and its syntax. |
| 18:28.39 | jeward | I just thought it seemd obvious that php was talking to mysql if phpmyadmin works? |
| 18:28.51 | archville | how to check the package list that i've installed ? (not the ones that come in default system, to backup them) |
| 18:28.59 | stew | ebw: does the package install any manpages to section 5? |
| 18:29.14 | stew | archville: /msg dpkg selections |
| 18:29.19 | archville | stew, thanks |
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| 18:29.23 | biz | hi, how can i check a text file for duplicate lines and remove them, then sort the file alphabetically? |
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| 18:29.45 | stew | jeward: i thought the entire problem was that phpmyadmin wasn't working? |
| 18:29.46 | jeward | stew: That was it, thanks! |
| 18:29.48 | dkr | biz: sort file | uniq |
| 18:30.01 | dummy | how do i install debian etch from scratch without installing stable and then upgrading? |
| 18:30.06 | jeward | stew: No, the problem was that it WAS working and my script wasn't! |
| 18:30.09 | espenel | private |
| 18:30.11 | jeward | stew: :-) |
| 18:30.18 | dkr | biz: the trick is sorting first, that way dup lines are easy for uniq to find, :) |
| 18:30.23 | h3xis | dummy, net install |
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| 18:30.30 | factotum | dummy: there are .iso's availible from debian |
| 18:31.07 | factotum | yeah, net install |
| 18:31.07 | stupidlinux | when i'm running apt-get update, i get: W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 18:31.09 | stew | stupidlinux: /topic |
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| 18:31.23 | stupidlinux | oh sorry >.< |
| 18:31.32 | Rydekull | !tell stupidlinux about no public key |
| 18:32.11 | lucasmk | umm... is there a good sanity check for 64-bit systems? I'm somehow using amd64 debian testing with a Pentium 4 2.66ghz |
| 18:32.16 | dummy | when i install testing it tells it askes me if i want to uninstall the running kernel but if i install and change my sources to etch then i upgrade fine |
| 18:32.17 | TD-Linux | I'm going to grab the latest iso and see if that helps my problem |
| 18:32.18 | ebw | stew: not for me. But /usr/share/doc/gnustep-base-common/README.Debian.gz was a hint. Thanks |
| 18:32.19 | damog | abrotman: hey |
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| 18:32.36 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 18:33.50 | dummy | do i have to install stable first then change my apt cources to testing or can i just get etch? |
| 18:34.01 | stew | dummy: either |
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| 18:34.18 | concept10 | when I grow up, I want to be a unix pipe |
| 18:34.20 | dummy | is there any difference? |
| 18:34.30 | stew | dummy: wait, waht do you do that makes it want to uninstall the runnign kernel? |
| 18:34.41 | TD-Linux | dummy: the iso's are here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/ |
| 18:34.42 | Rydekull | concept10: have everyone passing through you and use you to whatever they pleasure? |
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| 18:35.20 | dkr | Rydekull: at least he'll only go one way. not like those promiscuous sockets |
| 18:35.27 | Rydekull | dkr: :D |
| 18:35.41 | dummy | i configure apt pick testing then it asks me all that if i install get stable its fine |
| 18:35.49 | concept10 | Rydekull, no youre looking at it wrong |
| 18:36.02 | concept10 | Rydekull, I direct actions |
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| 18:36.16 | Rydekull | concept10: and, previously mentioned |
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| 18:37.31 | dummy | i have to get stable then upgrade it seems like i should just be able to get testing |
| 18:37.46 | ebw | Is there some debianized mechanism for using iptables? |
| 18:38.12 | dummy | im installing 2.6.8-4-386 iso |
| 18:38.46 | dummy | my bad i mean 2.6.6-3 |
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| 18:39.36 | Gicutza | how can i see my ram status ? |
| 18:39.48 | Rydekull | Gicutza: define status |
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| 18:40.06 | abrotman | free |
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| 18:40.32 | Gicutza | thanks |
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| 18:42.37 | stoned | concept10: what up |
| 18:43.01 | stoned | concept10: hmm |
| 18:43.09 | stoned | concept10: I always wanted to grow up and be a modem |
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| 18:43.13 | concept10 | stoned, nothing much try to researching how to make custom widgets |
| 18:43.21 | Rydekull | stoned: why a modem? |
| 18:43.26 | stoned | cuz modems are cool |
| 18:43.30 | concept10 | heh |
| 18:43.50 | Rydekull | stoned: noisy |
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| 18:43.54 | stoned | its like the matrix, the hardware is the machine city and inside its like things doing stuff |
| 18:44.11 | stoned | I think being a modem would like rich having a 24/7 constant rock concert |
| 18:44.14 | stoned | in the modem hardware |
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| 18:44.28 | stoned | -rich |
| 18:44.35 | stoned | I have no idea how that sneaked in there |
| 18:45.11 | Rydekull | stoned: Riche rich? Thought of the machine city matrix your building? |
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| 18:45.24 | stoned | now you're not making any sense at all |
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| 18:45.50 | Rydekull | stoned: I meant, you're. And Riche Rich, the cartoon. |
| 18:46.32 | biz | stoned: you listen to stonerrock? i'm a big fan |
| 18:47.02 | stoned | I don't watch cartoons, except old episodes of cow and chicken, thundercats, silver hawks, the bionic six, saber rider, voltron, looney tunes, powerpuff girls, some other cartoon network stuff |
| 18:47.06 | stoned | what is stoner rock? |
| 18:47.23 | factotum | black sabbath, first four albums |
| 18:47.25 | stoned | stoned people listen to rock/ |
| 18:47.33 | dummy | just chose not to install packages does somthing break apt? |
| 18:47.36 | biz | stonerrock.com |
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| 18:47.42 | stoned | what? no way man, thats like early young child metal |
| 18:47.49 | stoned | if anything |
| 18:47.59 | stoned | its like saying ubuntu is debian |
| 18:48.14 | factotum | that made no sense |
| 18:48.29 | stoned | well it kinda is |
| 18:48.47 | stew | dummy: what? |
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| 18:49.01 | stoned | but debian came first you see |
| 18:49.09 | concept10 | stoned, you must havent used 300 baud modems before |
| 18:49.17 | stoned | concept10: my first was a 2400 |
| 18:49.30 | stoned | compuadd laptop in 1992 i bought |
| 18:49.32 | concept10 | stoned, lucky you |
| 18:49.32 | enouf | stoned: what on earth are you rambling on about? |
| 18:49.42 | stoned | enouf: I have absolutely no idea =D |
| 18:49.51 | Rydekull | :D |
| 18:50.12 | stoned | moving sucks |
| 18:50.21 | concept10 | stoned, I remember the days when you have to wait all night to download one 1 disk of stuff |
| 18:50.22 | enouf | stoned: I was testing to see if I was wasted .. yet |
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| 18:50.50 | stoned | concept10: we had broadband in 94 |
| 18:50.52 | stoned | it was cool |
| 18:51.01 | Rydekull | stoned: define broadband |
| 18:51.03 | stoned | I was only on modem for 2 years |
| 18:51.06 | concept10 | broadband what? |
| 18:51.10 | Rydekull | stoned: define we :P |
| 18:51.13 | stoned | Rydekull: well the school had a line from the university |
| 18:51.25 | stoned | back in 8th grade |
| 18:51.45 | concept10 | tech sucks these days |
| 18:51.50 | stoned | university of missouri offered high speed internet for schools |
| 18:51.53 | stoned | in columbia mo |
| 18:51.59 | Rydekull | I got 10 Mbps FD to my home in 99, pre that I was at modem |
| 18:52.07 | justin | stoned: you probably mean MOREnet |
| 18:52.17 | stoned | justin: I have no idea |
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| 18:52.31 | justin | stoned: http://www.more.net/about/index.html |
| 18:53.38 | stoned | yes there it is in the history |
| 18:53.40 | concept10 | there is nothing really impressive these days ... I want 10 mpbs for $19.99 a month |
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| 18:53.53 | stoned | justin: there was also COIN, columbia online information network |
| 18:53.55 | concept10 | then I will be happy |
| 18:53.55 | enouf | mega-pixels? |
| 18:54.03 | stoned | offered shell accounts through the library |
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| 18:54.21 | Rydekull | enouf: Megabit per second |
| 18:54.31 | concept10 | enouf, in the end, thats what it amounts to |
| 18:54.37 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:55.04 | concept10 | stoned, is he being stupid? |
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| 18:55.12 | concept10 | :) |
| 18:55.13 | stoned | who? |
| 18:55.15 | duckx | Question: is there an autobuild for amd64 of experimental packages ? |
| 18:55.19 | stoned | Rydekull: maybe? |
| 18:55.31 | duckx | Going to page http://experimental.ftbfs.de/build.php |
| 18:55.37 | duckx | I can't see any amd64 :( |
| 18:55.39 | stoned | mbps could also be "many people bullshit" |
| 18:55.55 | stoned | no |
| 18:55.55 | Rydekull | stoned: like, how? :P |
| 18:55.57 | stoned | that doesn't work |
| 18:56.05 | stoned | see I'm stoned so you have to like gimme a minute |
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| 18:56.18 | Rydekull | i'll give you two |
| 18:56.46 | TD-Linux | YAY the new daily image worked ! :) |
| 18:56.54 | Rydekull | TD-Linux: grats |
| 18:56.58 | enouf | I also want, along with 20$=20mbps, the stupid PBS/Public Access type tv channels for less than the rape rate of 50+ per mo. |
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| 18:57.21 | plasmid | how do i check if ports 5060-5061 are open on my debian box? I port-forward those ports on my sipura 3102 device/router but CSR mentioned that those ports need to be open in debian box as well. HOw do I check? |
| 18:57.25 | concept10 | enouf, pbs is free |
| 18:57.32 | stew | plasmid: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 18:57.32 | stoned | enouf: lol |
| 18:57.54 | justin | plasmid: did you do something that would cause them to not be open? |
| 18:57.55 | wols | plasmid: unless you explicitly did something, those ports are open |
| 18:58.04 | enouf | concept10: not the one's I watch |
| 18:58.07 | wols | debian doesn't use any sort of firewall by default. it's sensible that way |
| 18:58.12 | plasmid | justin |
| 18:58.21 | plasmid | checking... |
| 18:59.38 | tsurko | hello everybody |
| 19:00.45 | absolutroot | hello |
| 19:00.51 | tsurko | i have an issue with xorg - I've used it for a reasonable time with the radeon driver, and after a dist-upgrade X doesn't load in more than 640x480 |
| 19:01.18 | tsurko | it's mobile radeon on IBM R32 laptop, it's the same with the ati driver too |
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| 19:01.40 | Spec | hey...can someone point me to documentation on setting up a central logging/aggregating server with syslog-ng that also runs logcheck/reports? |
| 19:02.08 | floe | plasmid: The ports are "open" if some client/server app is listening on them means these apps open the port... |
| 19:02.22 | rjent | Greetings, something messed up on my kernels with aptitude. Anyone willing to educate me? |
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| 19:02.50 | khaleel5000 | hi how do you play .rm files in linux (Debian etch ) |
| 19:02.58 | Spec | khaleel5000: maybe helix player |
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| 19:03.09 | Spec | !botsnack |
| 19:03.09 | dpkg | thanks, Spec |
| 19:03.14 | Spec | !info helix |
| 19:03.16 | Rydekull | tsurko: i'll guess you'll have to review your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:03.34 | rpc | is it possible to make a link between a dir in user's home dir and apache dir? vsftpd chroots the user and i can't seem to be able to cd to that directory, how can i solve this problem? |
| 19:03.37 | Fabio__| | when i modify the zones of bind9 for some domain, is there a way to let bind9 to automatically use the new settings, without calling /etc/init.d/bind9 reload |
| 19:03.39 | Fabio__| | ? |
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| 19:03.55 | Spec | Fabio__|: rndc reload ? |
| 19:04.01 | tsurko | Rydekull, i've already done that - could you tell me more specificly what to look for? |
| 19:04.22 | Fabio__| | Spec: what is rndc? |
| 19:04.25 | Rydekull | tsurko: Your Colordepth and Resolution |
| 19:04.45 | Spec | Fabio__|: rndc - name server control utility |
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| 19:05.19 | Fabio__| | Spec: but isn't the same as calling /etc/init.d/bind9 reload ? |
| 19:05.23 | Spec | basically |
| 19:05.42 | Spec | but it's not calling /etc/init.d/bind9 reload :) |
| 19:06.10 | tsurko | Rydekull, they are OK - the conf file isn't changed at all |
| 19:06.33 | Fabio__| | Spec: i need that a non-admin user can modify it's own zone, and don't give him "sudo" privileges :) |
| 19:06.48 | Rydekull | tsurko: then go and read the logs :) |
| 19:06.50 | Spec | Fabio__|: give him "sudo rndc reload" privilages only? |
| 19:07.15 | Spec | Fabio__|: you could run a crontab script every 10 minutes |
| 19:07.21 | Fabio__| | Spec: the user will modify its zone file with a ftp session |
| 19:07.30 | tsurko | Rydekull, i've read them too - nothing wrong in them |
| 19:07.43 | Spec | Fabio__|: crontab script that checks for changes in the zones, and if changes are found, reloads |
| 19:07.44 | Rydekull | tsurko: Great, then it's working! |
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| 19:08.01 | tsurko | hehe |
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| 19:08.15 | Fabio__| | Spec: i have thought too to such a script but i prayed there was somekind of options of bind9 :) |
| 19:08.27 | Spec | hehe, not that i'm aware of, but i'm not too familiar with bind9 :) |
| 19:08.35 | Fabio__| | Spec: ok thanks very much |
| 19:08.40 | Fabio__| | :) |
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| 19:18.40 | khaleel5000 | hello , i am trying to run a .rm file (on debina etch ) via helix player , its says it needs audio/x-pn-realaudio ,a component , where do i get that |
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| 19:20.30 | Ankman | khaleel5000: have mplayer installed? |
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| 19:21.05 | khaleel5000 | Ankman: no |
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| 19:21.29 | Ankman | that's what iuse, plays anything also rm files |
| 19:21.40 | Ankman | apt-get install mplayer |
| 19:22.00 | Ankman | may be later assign file extensions to it |
| 19:22.01 | Rydekull | I'd suggest adding the right sources before apt-getting it |
| 19:22.27 | Ankman | it also plays quicktime, wmv, and mpeg of course and many others |
| 19:22.50 | Ankman | dunno, i compiled it myslef but heard some debiam sources have packages |
| 19:23.54 | Rydekull | mplayer is "not free" |
| 19:24.12 | Ankman | damn apt-spy killed my sources.list again |
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| 19:26.52 | nomasteryoda|w | apt-spy?... lol |
| 19:27.09 | Rydekull | nomasteryoda|w: a good tool if you are unsure of your sources |
| 19:27.26 | nomasteryoda|w | cool |
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| 19:27.31 | nomasteryoda|w | did not know about it |
| 19:27.36 | nomasteryoda|w | using ubuntu |
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| 19:27.40 | Rydekull | same there |
| 19:27.56 | nomasteryoda|w | finally got beryl xorg working |
| 19:28.16 | nomasteryoda|w | now to see what else breaks before release date |
| 19:28.23 | Ankman | Rydekull: go-od tool unless you abort it |
| 19:28.36 | nomasteryoda|w | lol |
| 19:28.39 | Rydekull | Ankman: the plan is to use it once :) |
| 19:28.39 | Ankman | then it writes an emtpy sources.list |
| 19:28.55 | Ankman | and also purged own setup files |
| 19:29.01 | nomasteryoda|w | sounds like making a script to back those up would be a good idea... |
| 19:29.06 | nomasteryoda|w | before running |
| 19:29.10 | Ankman | i remove-pruge it now and get a new via wget |
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| 19:29.17 | Ankman | yes |
| 19:29.24 | Ankman | well there is one backup |
| 19:29.36 | Ankman | exists unless you let apt-spy do it twice ;-) |
| 19:29.37 | dkr | now I understand why so many people have stayed here instead of oftc, the ops are getting very assholish over there |
| 19:29.46 | uptownben | Flimzy: got some more feedback for you. |
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| 19:29.53 | Flimzy | uptownben: okay... |
| 19:29.55 | nomasteryoda|w | i've got one that rebuilds news files binaries.. |
| 19:30.27 | Rydekull | stew: heh |
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| 19:31.59 | uptownben | Flimzy: Question: I installed on a CF that is recognized as hda, how can I change fstab and have the changes save for the next reboot? |
| 19:32.12 | Flimzy | uptownben: edit the fstab, then run 'moo' |
| 19:32.32 | Flimzy | uptownben: 'moo' will backup any changes (including new packages you install, etc) |
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| 19:33.01 | uptownben | Flimzy: that's what i thought and that's what I did, I got an error "unary operator expected" |
| 19:33.04 | bzed | Flimzy: moo!? |
| 19:33.08 | craigevil | Would installing libc6-i686 make things work faster or would it just cause problems? |
| 19:33.19 | Flimzy | uptownben: Can you paste the entire error to a private message to me? |
| 19:33.22 | Flimzy | bzed: yes, moo! |
| 19:33.44 | Flimzy | bzed: moo does a backup of /cow :) |
| 19:33.52 | h3sp4wn | craigevil: In what context ? You should install it unless you are using xen |
| 19:33.54 | bzed | Flimzy: aaaah ok. |
| 19:34.06 | uptownben | Flimzy: I can try |
| 19:34.28 | craigevil | h3sp4wn: I would just looking at a site that had tips to make things run faster and it said to install it |
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| 19:35.12 | craigevil | h3sp4wn: not running xen, and the kernel I am using is a 686 kernel, |
| 19:35.27 | seb-- | help! lost sound today and upping volume on alsamixer doesn't fix....any ideas? |
| 19:35.34 | h3sp4wn | craigevil: Install it then - won't cause any problems |
| 19:35.43 | Rydekull | seb--: run alsaconf again |
| 19:35.44 | setog3 | !nvidia |
| 19:35.44 | dpkg | For a guide to NVIDIA graphics cards drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder if you've done it before. DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer (ask me about <nvidia-installer>). |
| 19:35.51 | zamuro | seb--: Tried restarting the deamon? |
| 19:36.01 | craigevil | h3sp4wn: OK thanks |
| 19:36.06 | seb-- | zamuro: i rebooted to no avail |
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| 19:36.21 | uptownben | Flimzy: this is what I just did, booted up got an SDA1 doesnt exist error, but the boot continues. I changed /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/fstab using editor, hit ctrl-K X and got the saved message for both files, then I typed moo |
| 19:36.33 | seb-- | zamuro: restart alsa-utils? |
| 19:37.08 | seb-- | Rydekull: ok,, now what? any ideas? |
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| 19:37.25 | Rydekull | seb--: try if its working? |
| 19:38.04 | seb-- | Rydekull: if there a way to reset all those setting to defaults if i mess with 'em? :) |
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| 19:38.17 | Rydekull | !tell seb-- about alsa-checklist |
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| 19:38.59 | earthian | hello, my X does not start anymore. I have enable the splash screen that is ugly to be honest and now X does not start. The Log does not indicate any errors! And it ends with initialization of GLX extension. WTF I do now?? |
| 19:39.03 | earthian | help? |
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| 19:39.57 | rgsteele | earthian: What log did you look at? |
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| 19:40.19 | earthian | rgsteele: Xorg.0.log |
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| 19:41.08 | rgsteele | Did you check any of the other logs? |
| 19:41.20 | earthian | yes, no EE entries there |
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| 19:41.50 | earthian | so no errors... probably X does not start because of timeout or so? |
| 19:42.01 | earthian | when it start i see half screen white... it used to be nvidia logo there |
| 19:42.47 | rgsteele | Sounds like your graphics card went belly up. |
| 19:43.01 | earthian | ;S |
| 19:43.05 | earthian | why should it? |
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| 19:43.24 | Rydekull | dkr: welcome back |
| 19:43.27 | rgsteele | earthian: I dunno, why do cows have spots? |
| 19:43.37 | earthian | rgsteele: somebody painted them? :/ |
| 19:43.48 | earthian | well... nvm then |
| 19:43.49 | karsten | earthian: One diagnostic is to try booting Knoppix or another bootable distro with good HW autodetect. See if it works. |
| 19:44.03 | rgsteele | earthian: Then obviously, your motherboard is doing its best to sabotage you. Try booting without X |
| 19:44.48 | rgsteele | earthian: karsten's suggestion is a very viable option as well. |
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| 19:46.42 | mne | hi, I'm using debian testing on a server. I't currently runs kernel 2.6.8. Are there any backports for this kernel version ? I would like to use sshfs |
| 19:46.58 | earthian | ok thanks all. |
| 19:47.04 | earthian | will try now. |
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| 19:47.09 | karsten | mne: Check into FUSE. I suspect you can do what you want with that. |
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| 19:47.30 | xp_prg | anyone know what package contains xauth? |
| 19:48.03 | mne | karsten, yes, i know that i can use it. but i would need the fuse kernel module for kernel 2.6.8. i cold compile it from source, but i'm sure there is a kernel package that includes it |
| 19:48.04 | Rydekull | xp_prg: xbase-clients I assume |
| 19:48.10 | xp_prg | thanks |
| 19:48.11 | karsten | !tell xp_prg about search |
| 19:48.23 | mne | xp_prg, habe a look at packages.debian.org, you can search there .. |
| 19:48.28 | karsten | mne: Are you stuck with that kernel for some reason? |
| 19:48.38 | setog3 | hmm I need help with nvidia driver, I follow the install on the wiki, and .. get no direct rendering, |
| 19:48.48 | karsten | mne: You can d/l and build any released kernel yourself. /msg dpkg k-p |
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| 19:48.53 | karsten | !nvidia |
| 19:48.53 | dpkg | For a guide to NVIDIA graphics cards drivers, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder if you've done it before. DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer (ask me about <nvidia-installer>). |
| 19:48.58 | mne | karsten, well' it's the default kernel for testing |
| 19:49.03 | karsten | setog3: ... which is _all_ I know on the topic. |
| 19:49.12 | karsten | mne: That wasn't what I asked ;-) |
| 19:49.49 | karsten | mne: If you've got a software / system / organizational requirement to use a particular kernel. so be it. If you don't, then latest stable is often a very good thing to run. |
| 19:49.55 | h3sp4wn | mne: its the default kernel for stable - testing default is 2.6.18 |
| 19:50.13 | karsten | mne: ... and what h3sp4wn said. testing's *way* off 2.4 |
| 19:50.24 | mne | karsten, right, it's stable. It's a production server |
| 19:50.49 | setog3 | karsten: I allready do !nvidia, and follow the wiki .. thx ! |
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| 19:51.25 | earthian | hey again! |
| 19:51.45 | earthian | i suspect that X is conflicting with my bootsplash |
| 19:51.47 | karsten | mne: OK. I'm not familar with specifics of the feature you mention. Depending on what you're running (proprietary SW often has stricter reqs / deps than FS), upgrading either to a new 2.6 kernel, or to a later 2.4 kernel, might help you. |
| 19:51.52 | mne | karsten, so i guess i will find a package in backports.org, right ? otherwise i will compile the kernel with the same config and build the fuse kernel module for 2.6.8 by hand |
| 19:52.11 | earthian | as the splash is being shown on tty7, which is the same as Xserver |
| 19:52.17 | karsten | earthian: Which of those is more critical to your practical use of your system? |
| 19:52.32 | mne | karsten, it's just that the server should stick to debian stable since it is a production server |
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| 19:52.47 | karsten | mne: You can check backports. I'd go kernel.org m'self and apply Debian patches. |
| 19:52.57 | earthian | something weird happens with tty8 too which i think never happened again... there i saw that Xorg cant start or so.. same error message |
| 19:52.58 | mne | karsten, thanks. I'll have a look |
| 19:53.08 | karsten | mne: I'm familiar with that situation. I'm a fan fo "stick to the standard where possible, but fix it where broken. |
| 19:53.16 | karsten | s/fo/of/ |
| 19:53.17 | mne | karsten, ;) |
| 19:53.18 | earthian | and still no errors |
| 19:53.36 | earthian | hm |
| 19:53.56 | earthian | i know... i just wanted splash to look good. I hope I misconfigured it properly.. will try again. |
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| 19:54.10 | earthian | i supose you do not know anything about these things, karsten ? :) |
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| 19:57.58 | xp_prg | that worked thanks |
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| 20:00.38 | Rydekull | xp_prg: welcome |
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| 20:01.11 | aubergine | i have a problem, a friend has installed glibc of the unstable tree but this is a stable system, so can i do: apt-get remove --purge libc6 && apt-get install libc6. Or is the system then gone? |
| 20:02.44 | Guerin | aubergine: gone. |
| 20:02.48 | setog3 | hmm .. seem to be a problem in the link in my /usr/lib/nvidia/ .. I think I will do a dpkg -P nvidia-glx .. |
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| 20:02.56 | aubergine | Guerin: What can i do? |
| 20:02.57 | Guerin | aubergine: give your friend a beating with the cluebat |
| 20:03.04 | Guerin | aubergine: reinatall |
| 20:03.09 | aubergine | waaa |
| 20:03.12 | aubergine | oh no |
| 20:03.34 | Rydekull | aubergine: bring him here and |
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| 20:03.37 | Rydekull | !lart him |
| 20:03.50 | aubergine | hehe |
| 20:04.04 | Harzilein | hi there |
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| 20:04.41 | Harzilein | i ran alsaconf and i got through without errors... but when i want to start utilities depending on alsa: |
| 20:04.45 | Harzilein | harzi@tor:~$ alsamixer |
| 20:04.45 | Harzilein | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
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| 20:06.08 | cahoot | Harzilein: is <user> member of audio group? |
| 20:06.36 | cahoot | Harzilein: 'id' will tell |
| 20:06.36 | Rydekull | !tell Harzilein about alsa-checklist |
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| 20:06.43 | Guerin | holy crap, I got four spam last night |
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| 20:09.18 | setog3 | ok it solve the problem |
| 20:09.27 | setog3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:10.32 | xp_prg | hi all, I am in xauth hell |
| 20:10.59 | xp_prg | I am trying to remote ssh x forwarding and it keeps saying can't open display |
| 20:11.03 | xp_prg | any help would be appreciated |
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| 20:12.53 | xp_prg | figrued it out, ssh forwarding was not turned on |
| 20:12.53 | Guerin | xp_prg: install xbase-clients on both client and server |
| 20:12.57 | Guerin | duh |
| 20:12.58 | Rydekull | xp_prg: dont do it as root |
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| 20:13.21 | xp_prg | I love all of you in a very masculine heterosexual platonic slight right of center republican way |
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| 20:13.36 | Guerin | mm, not sure about that republican way |
| 20:13.40 | xp_prg | heh |
| 20:13.43 | Guerin | does that mean you love us like a dog |
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| 20:13.44 | Guerin | ? |
| 20:13.51 | xp_prg | no it means I am pro-business |
| 20:13.57 | Guerin | haha |
| 20:13.59 | xp_prg | and not pro-taxes |
| 20:14.04 | Guerin | because the democrats aren't pro-business |
| 20:14.09 | Guerin | hahaha |
| 20:14.12 | xp_prg | right |
| 20:14.13 | Guerin | that's hilarious |
| 20:14.14 | lex | ok... mad interesting question for the old timer: ive logs with timestamps in the accustamp format. I want to convert this timestamp to something humans can understand. What is the accustamp format? |
| 20:14.23 | Guerin | thanks, best joke I've heard today |
| 20:14.23 | ManuP | is there a chanell for ximian evolution? i tried #ximian and #evolution and irc.novell.com but i did not succeed. |
| 20:14.35 | xp_prg | the democrats are pro business? |
| 20:14.37 | lex | ManuP: irc.gimp.org |
| 20:14.43 | Guerin | xp_prg: yes, of course. |
| 20:14.43 | lex | ManuP: wrong server |
| 20:14.59 | ManuP | lex, on gimp?! wtf has gimp to do with evolution? |
| 20:15.09 | Guerin | xp_prg: practically every democratic government or would-be government is, otherwise they don't get elected (in the west) |
| 20:15.18 | lex | ManuP: nothing. Its just that that irc server carries all the official gnome.org channels |
| 20:15.20 | lex | So |
| 20:15.37 | ManuP | lex, and the channel? is it #evolution? |
| 20:15.49 | lex | Well... id start at #gnome and ask |
| 20:15.59 | xp_prg | they raise taxes do they not? |
| 20:16.03 | flo | hy i'vd installd debian 31r5 on an old laptop and installd the X package but when i make startx i get something like /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X no such file or directory can anyone help me? |
| 20:16.03 | ManuP | lex, k, thanks |
| 20:16.09 | roe | anyone know anything about ircd-ircu? |
| 20:16.19 | Guerin | xp_prg: you need to get off this taxes == anti-business thing. |
| 20:16.29 | dkr | lex: if you have the logs then can't you just look at the format? accustamps are phsycal stamping devices aren't they? |
| 20:16.52 | damog | flo: make sure you installed xserver-xorg and x-window-system packages |
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| 20:17.40 | xp_prg | I don't think taxes help business do they? |
| 20:18.25 | s2211 | guys how do you repair a tar archive? or ignore errors of it when untaring ? |
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| 20:18.57 | Guerin | xp_prg: it's not quite as simple as a bumber-sticker. |
| 20:19.03 | Guerin | or a bumper one |
| 20:19.04 | lex | dkr: well... qmail and their log analysis tools gimme an accustamp timestamp which looks like this: 1172866247.14666500 |
| 20:19.15 | Rydekull | s2211: i'd say you dont |
| 20:19.22 | xp_prg | well, I have an mba, convince me, if you wnat to |
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| 20:19.34 | Guerin | !pity lex for using qmail |
| 20:19.34 | dpkg | I pity da fool lex for using qmail! |
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| 20:19.43 | lex | dkr: This format is supposed to be "simple-sortable" for the date and very accurate. So no problem, i can use that for speed. The thing is how do i generate human readable reports from that |
| 20:19.46 | Guerin | xp_prg: haha |
| 20:19.52 | baoooo | i have a system where / is set to readonly in fstab. how can i change it back? |
| 20:19.53 | lex | Guerin: tis an old install my friend. |
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| 20:20.21 | lex | baoooo: use rw in the mount options |
| 20:20.28 | lex | baoooo: man mount |
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| 20:20.46 | baoooo | but / is already mounted |
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| 20:20.56 | lex | baoooo: mount -o remount,rw / |
| 20:21.01 | baoooo | ah ok |
| 20:21.09 | lex | but then you have to change the option on fstab as well |
| 20:21.14 | wols | xp_prg: you forgot the "small govenrment" part. shame on you |
| 20:21.25 | xand | !shit |
| 20:21.25 | dpkg | i guess shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 20:21.29 | lex | No such thing as a small govmt. They are all huge |
| 20:21.53 | baoooo | i love you lex |
| 20:22.21 | lex | I get that a lot my friend |
| 20:22.28 | lex | :) |
| 20:22.48 | itchi | xand: No, try /msg dpkg shit |
| 20:22.54 | xp_prg | ya republicans are not living up to that promise at all |
| 20:22.54 | baoooo | i willing to expose my love in places where no one else have been before (hopefully) |
| 20:23.47 | xand | itchi: it's the same. |
| 20:24.00 | lex | Ok ill rephrase my question: how can i get the date command to take a unix timestamp and gimme back the iso date string? |
| 20:24.02 | itchi | xand: Sure, just other people not see it :-p |
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| 20:24.22 | xand | itchi: OHNOES! |
| 20:25.44 | lex | baoooo: there is no place i know where i havent been loved. Perhaps we should switch to a better channel.... HOHO! |
| 20:25.56 | lex | JK |
| 20:25.58 | Harzilein | ok, sound works now, thx |
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| 20:26.50 | stew | lex: perl -e "print scalar localtime $timestamp" ? |
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| 20:27.32 | lex | stew: ah! perhaps |
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| 20:27.40 | dim | hey |
| 20:27.47 | Guerin | xp_prg: last time they even tried was with reagan. |
| 20:27.56 | dim | is there a gcc-4.1 sarge backport known to be available? |
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| 20:28.27 | Guerin | dim: search backports.org |
| 20:28.29 | s2211 | hi again |
| 20:28.33 | s2211 | guys found out my file is created in tar in unixware |
| 20:28.40 | dim | Guerin: not found there |
| 20:28.46 | Guerin | dim: then likely not |
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| 20:28.56 | lex | stew: ill ask baoooo to love you too |
| 20:28.59 | dim | easy to backport as in apt-get source -b ? |
| 20:29.00 | s2211 | why I can not untar in linux? |
| 20:29.17 | lex | stew: ill excent meself the shame |
| 20:29.20 | dim | s2211: tar in linux is GNU tar, not unixware tar |
| 20:29.21 | Guerin | s2211: ask the people who tarred it up |
| 20:29.32 | lex | s2211: chances are, youre not doing it right |
| 20:29.32 | Guerin | they should be compatible in principle |
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| 20:31.53 | flo | damog: can u pls tell me the exact apt-get install comand for the xserver-xorg and x-window-system (i have only the cd are those packages on the cd?) i cant find them with aptitude |
| 20:32.28 | Guerin | !set up x |
| 20:32.28 | dpkg | somebody said set up x was First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
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| 20:34.17 | stew | flo: aptitude insatll xorg |
| 20:34.27 | lex | Ok... another nice unix/perl question: ive a nice perl script (found it on #debian) that converts me a timestamp to a date (hurray). What do I do to a perl script so that, instead of taking the timestamp as a parameter, it takes it from stdin |
| 20:34.32 | stew | except you have to spell install correctly |
| 20:35.05 | stew | lex: perl -e "print scalar localtime <>" |
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| 20:35.19 | lex | stew: you do rock, dont you? |
| 20:35.28 | stew | all day everyday |
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| 20:36.43 | micty | hi |
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| 20:36.52 | lex | I now have my programming perl book on my left hand. Lets see who will rock in the end. |
| 20:36.57 | micty | where can I get freeNX for debian? |
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| 20:37.03 | s2211 | guys how do you use ncftpget to unarchive a file from an ftp server? |
| 20:37.19 | dkr | lex: did you figure out your timestamp issue. I think it might just be normal epoch timestamp with nanoseconds after the decimal point. e.g. your example's part before decimal is: perl -wle 'print scalar localtime 1172866247' |
| 20:37.19 | dkr | Fri Mar 2 15:10:47 2007 |
| 20:37.42 | dkr | oh, I see stew just said that, :) |
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| 20:39.03 | lex | dkr: yes, my friend. Stew here did the same thing for me. Thanks anyhow. |
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| 20:40.00 | s2211 | guys how do you use ncftpget to unarchive a file from an ftp server?? |
| 20:40.10 | s2211 | "ncftpget -u use -p pass -c 172.16.30.1 /dir/file.tar | tar vfx " |
| 20:40.28 | s2211 | am I doing it right? |
| 20:40.29 | dkr | tar xf - |
| 20:40.36 | defcon8 | is it not just amazing how slow OO.o is even on a 64bit amd 3700+? |
| 20:40.42 | dkr | the f option takes an argument of the file to untar |
| 20:40.49 | dkr | - means use stdin |
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| 20:41.16 | s2211 | dkr: "ncftpget -u use -p pass -c 172.16.30.1 /dir/file.tar | tar fx " ? right |
| 20:41.24 | dkr | tar xf - |
| 20:41.42 | s2211 | dkr: "ncftpget -u use -p pass -c 172.16.30.1 /dir/file.tar | tar xf -" ? right |
| 20:41.49 | thechef | are there up-to-date unofficial firefox packages using the firefox logos and name? |
| 20:41.57 | thechef | for debian etch |
| 20:42.26 | dkr | s2211: it doesn't look liek you gave the option to ncftpget to tell it to send the file to stdout. I don't know what that option is, check the amn page. :) |
| 20:42.38 | stew | dkr: he did, -c |
| 20:42.41 | Guerin | !htfswk thechef |
| 20:42.41 | dpkg | thechef: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 20:42.50 | thechef | hehe |
| 20:42.53 | dkr | stew: ah, cool |
| 20:42.54 | craigevil | thechef: you can always use the Mozilla version or swiftfox, whats wrong with using Iceweasel |
| 20:42.55 | Guerin | thechef: distributing them would be illegal, so likely not. |
| 20:43.06 | thechef | What is swiftfox? |
| 20:43.08 | stew | Guerin: why would it be illegal? |
| 20:43.23 | k31th | Guys i'm trying to build some thing from CVS |
| 20:43.24 | Guerin | stew: modified version with trademarks. |
| 20:43.24 | k31th | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 5) |
| 20:43.28 | k31th | any ideas? |
| 20:43.53 | stew | Guerin: i don't think he was asking for a modified version |
| 20:43.58 | Guerin | k31th: apt-get build-dep programyou'retryingtobuild |
| 20:44.03 | thechef | The problem is, that I am not so good at associating the green symbol with my web browser. |
| 20:44.12 | s2211 | stew: "ncftpget -c -u use -p pass -c 172.16.30.1 /dir/file.tar | tar xf -" rught? |
| 20:44.17 | k31th | Guerin: I can't do that. |
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| 20:44.21 | Guerin | stew: an unofficial version packaged for would necessarily be so |
| 20:44.21 | micty | freeNX anyone? where? |
| 20:44.22 | stew | s2211: looks correct to me |
| 20:44.28 | Guerin | k31th: then you get to install debhelper manually |
| 20:44.36 | craigevil | thechef: so download a firefox icon and change it |
| 20:44.54 | k31th | Guerin: how? i did apt-get install debhelper |
| 20:45.06 | thechef | Can I also change the name of the window? |
| 20:45.10 | Guerin | thechef: grab the icon from anywhere, put it in the /usr/share/icons dir and set your shortcuts to use it |
| 20:45.23 | Guerin | k31th: aptitude search debhelper |grep -dev |
| 20:45.27 | Guerin | bah |
| 20:45.29 | Guerin | k31th: aptitude search debhelper |grep dev |
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| 20:45.47 | k31th | nothing. |
| 20:46.09 | Guerin | yeh, it's not libs |
| 20:46.12 | Guerin | hm |
| 20:46.21 | stew | Guerin: what would make it illegal though? |
| 20:46.24 | Guerin | k31th: i guess you have an older version of dh than is required |
| 20:46.40 | Guerin | stew: distributing it without trademark permissions? |
| 20:46.44 | k31th | Guerin: shall i get a backport of 6 or some thing? |
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| 20:46.55 | Guerin | k31th: i suppose so. |
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| 20:47.43 | micty | I am looking for freeNX in synaptic and it doesn't show. ? |
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| 20:49.59 | micty | all the site I look at say add this to sources.list, and when syanptic open, it errors that it can't connect to that source |
| 20:50.13 | stew | Guerin: they give permission in the tarball to redistribute it |
| 20:51.46 | Guerin | stew: except any consequential modifications require you to strip the trademarks. I'm sure you've read the bugreport. |
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| 20:53.06 | k31th | Guerin: FYI adding backport version worked. |
| 20:53.11 | stew | Guerin: i've seen the bugreport. i don't think it has anything to do with his question though |
| 20:53.38 | kamiro87 | Hello. i would like to do a dist upgrade to the unstable 4 version of debian.What repositories must i add to APT to get this towork? |
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| 20:54.00 | Guerin | kamiro87: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 20:54.19 | kamiro87 | thankyou! |
| 20:54.34 | dkr | lol, /msg dpkg testing->unstable dpkg replies: "If you have to ask, you shouldn't." |
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| 21:03.32 | mzilikazi | how to take a screen of a vt? something like bsd's vidcontrol |
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| 21:04.22 | zinx | mzilikazi: using /dev/vc[sa]* |
| 21:04.36 | zinx | erh, looks like vcs{,a}* actually |
| 21:05.00 | zinx | mzilikazi: that'll give a raw screendump though :/ |
| 21:05.25 | mzilikazi | yeah i got that w/ setterm too :) |
| 21:05.36 | damog | abrotman: hey |
| 21:05.41 | s2211 | "/usr/local/bin/ncftpget -c -u user -p pass -c 172.16.31.8 /dir/file.tar | tar xfv -" is wrong |
| 21:05.53 | s2211 | error "/usr/local/bin/ncftpget: ERROR: Illegal option -- c" |
| 21:05.56 | Gryfelhase | I've sarge.... and since i installed the nvidia-driver xawtv doesn't work anymore |
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| 21:06.04 | Gryfelhase | I've installed tvtime, but |
| 21:06.14 | mzilikazi | Gryfelhase: xawtv -nodga |
| 21:06.27 | tvynr | Hello, all. Anyone here ever compiled dpkg from scratch? |
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| 21:07.57 | s2211 | "/usr/local/bin/ncftpget -d stdout -u user -p pass -c 172.16.31.8 /dir/file.tar | tar xfv -" ???? correst |
| 21:08.06 | Gryfelhase | mzilikazi: first try didn't work, but I scann the scannels again |
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| 21:09.05 | AKX | How can I install a .deb package? Or just extract it? |
| 21:09.08 | tvynr | Does anyone know how to convince dpkg not to rely on po4a? I'm trying to build a little tiny ramdisk-based Linux system and, while I'd like to use dpkg to track packages, it's not going to be in the finished product. |
| 21:09.14 | tvynr | AKX: Install: dpkg -i <package> |
| 21:09.21 | AKX | Thankies. |
| 21:09.24 | teledyn | tvynr: why would anyone need to? |
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| 21:10.12 | tvynr | teledyn: I want to use .debs for package management so I can remove or upgrade stuff as I need, but the end result will be a CD containing a system which loads onto a ramdisk. So it won't include dpkg; I just want to use it for accounting purposes. |
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| 21:10.33 | Gryfelhase | mzilikazi: doesn't work |
| 21:10.41 | tvynr | teledyn: As a result, I'd like to use dpkg for the accounting but I don't want to have to deal with a bunch of internationalization dependencies if I can avoid it. (Building po4a looks like it's gonna be a nightmare.) |
| 21:10.46 | mzilikazi | Gryfelhase: xawtv won't launch at all? |
| 21:10.51 | mzilikazi | or it does not find channels? |
| 21:11.01 | Flimzy | What happens if you unselect all three IO schedulres in the kernel config? Does that mean you have no IO, or you just have "inefficient" IO? heh |
| 21:11.03 | Gryfelhase | it launches, but it doesn't show a picture |
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| 21:11.09 | Gryfelhase | scantv find them |
| 21:11.13 | Gryfelhase | finds |
| 21:11.18 | Gryfelhase | but my problem is another |
| 21:11.24 | Gryfelhase | i use now tvtime |
| 21:11.30 | teledyn | tvynr: maybe on some development mailing list someone might know |
| 21:11.31 | Gryfelhase | but how can i record movies now ? |
| 21:11.35 | Gryfelhase | I uses stzreamer before |
| 21:11.57 | tvynr | teledyn: Ah. So not the right forum for my peculiar question? ;) Can't say I'm surprised; it's a pretty odd request. Thanks, though. :) |
| 21:12.02 | Gryfelhase | streamer |
| 21:12.12 | teledyn | tvynr: i doubt here |
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| 21:13.20 | ZeeO | after a dist-upgrade i rebooted my server and its not come back up will it take time booting up after that |
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| 21:13.31 | ZeeO | or do you guys think i'm goignt o have to pay for a os reload |
| 21:14.12 | ZeeO | it never takes this long to come up |
| 21:14.22 | teledyn | tvynr: what about the udeb's used by the debian installer? |
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| 21:15.54 | teledyn | tvynr: i think quite a few live cd distros are based on hacked version of the debian installer |
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| 21:20.48 | tvynr | teledyn: I'm trying to compile all my own gear, actually. This little Linux has to be able to fit SMB client utils, FUSE, sshfs, ntfsprogs, and hopefully some kind of GUI (X server, Xynth, etc.) into as small a space as possible because it has to run entirely out of RAM. I'm hoping to have it run on a box with ~128Mb. |
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| 21:21.25 | tvynr | teledyn: So I need to be able to build and install my own stuff on this chroot. I have a scratch system set up, I just need a way of packaging it. |
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| 21:22.10 | tvynr | teledyn: So I was trying to get a minimal dpkg into the chroot to handle accounting. Btw, I've found that the problem with po4a is that it needs a Perl module (Module::Build) to make properly. Know where I could get my hands on one of those? :-P |
| 21:22.29 | tvynr | teledyn: If it's not obvious, I don't have a lot of experience with compilation under Linux. ;) |
| 21:23.00 | teledyn | tvynr: i don't know, but i might look at how the d-i packages its own stuff. |
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| 21:23.44 | uptownben | Flimzy: well.. looks like it works.. I'mm put it through it spaces now.. |
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| 21:24.00 | Flimzy | uptownben: cool :) |
| 21:24.03 | tvynr | teledyn: nods Could do. I'll have to take a look at that; thanks for the reference. |
| 21:24.59 | uptownben | I got a hda1 already mount message... I'm testing moo.. just modified /etc/hosts saved and typed moo.. |
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| 21:26.07 | uptownben | Flimzy: shit.. I got a no space left on device error?? whats up with that? |
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| 21:26.17 | Flimzy | uptownben: when does that happen? |
| 21:27.02 | amphi | it's full? ;) |
| 21:27.03 | uptownben | at the end of the moo... after all the littel dots... It says 120MB.. write on destination failed: No space left on device FATAL ERROR: zlib |
| 21:27.12 | uptownben | ::uncompress failed |
| 21:27.25 | uptownben | unknown error -3 |
| 21:27.33 | uptownben | df -h |
| 21:27.38 | uptownben | oops |
| 21:27.48 | uptownben | :) |
| 21:28.51 | uptownben | Flimzy: I see.. df says /casper/base.squashfs is SIZE 71MB and USED 71MB.. AVAIL 0 USER% 100%.. |
| 21:29.10 | uptownben | *USE% |
| 21:29.20 | teledyn | tvynr: there used to be a "lowmem" installer or something like that. i don't think its around any more though. |
| 21:29.20 | Flimzy | uptownben: What does it say for /cow? |
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| 21:30.14 | uptownben | tmpfs Size 126M Used 1.9M AVAIL 124M USE% 2% /cow |
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| 21:32.38 | Flimzy | uptownben: cool. That's where all your writes go. |
| 21:32.43 | Flimzy | uptownben: Until you run 'moo' |
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| 21:34.13 | uptownben | Flimzy: so whats up with that "no space on device" error when I moo? can I expand the squashfs file? |
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| 21:34.53 | tvynr | teledyn: The problem isn't installation; this disc isn't installing anything. It's a recovery disc system for Windows users. So you boot from CD, it loads into RAM, you pop the disc out and put in your DVD-RW or whatever, and it makes you a hard disc image similar to Norton Ghost and friends. |
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| 21:35.32 | tvynr | teledyn: So I don't need an installer, really. I just want dpkg to keep track of things for me so that if, for instance, I install Qt on my little root and want to remove it, I don't have to play the which-package-does-this-file-belong-to game. |
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| 21:35.48 | Flimzy | uptownben: the squashfs is read-only... you never write to it again. |
| 21:35.57 | Flimzy | uptownben: What did you do when it said 'no space left on device'? |
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| 21:37.14 | uptownben | Flimzy: well first I banged my head on the wall.. then I threw my hands in the air.. but after that .. nothing. |
| 21:37.39 | Flimzy | uptownben: haha |
| 21:37.52 | Flimzy | uptownben: Were you trying to edit a file or something? |
| 21:37.56 | Flimzy | or that happened during boot up? |
| 21:38.12 | uptownben | I modified my /etc/hosts file.. thats it.. |
| 21:38.29 | uptownben | the boot seemed fine.. |
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| 21:39.18 | uptownben | Fllimzy: after boot I modified the /etc/hosts file , just to test moo.. and when I typed moo... it went through its paces a little and then gave me that error at the end. |
| 21:40.13 | teledyn | tvynr: i would look at how, on the d-i, when you are in expert mode, it has the option to install those extra components (e.g. ssh client) i think those components are .udeb's |
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| 21:41.06 | teledyn | tvynr: you can ctrl-alt-f4 and see the log of exactly what the installer is doing |
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| 21:42.36 | teledyn | tvynr: another option is, what about hacking knoppix? there are actually tutorials on how to do it |
| 21:43.39 | teledyn | tvynr: and also you can make the d-i or knoppix run of a usbstick |
| 21:43.57 | uptownben | Flimzy: Does the squashfs image stay the same size? |
| 21:44.33 | teledyn | tvynr: see the d-i install doc. it is trivial to put it on a usb stick. |
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| 21:44.58 | Flimzy | uptownben: Yes. |
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| 21:45.10 | Flimzy | moo: how much space is free on /boot? |
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| 21:45.28 | Flimzy | uptownben: how much space is free on /boot? |
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| 21:45.32 | teledyn | tvynr: so you could easily do that, then hack the syslinux.cfg to always boot in rescue mode, and maybe add a few scripts of your own to run |
| 21:45.33 | uptownben | Flimzy: I dont see /boot mounted |
| 21:45.41 | Flimzy | uptownben: eek |
| 21:45.57 | Flimzy | uptownben: Did you install the casper .deb from the link on that page? |
| 21:46.06 | uptownben | yes |
| 21:46.07 | teledyn | tvynr: another hackable one witha good gui (i think fluxbox) is the gparted live cd that can also be easily put on usb stick |
| 21:46.15 | Flimzy | uptownben: let me see what your extlinux.conf file looks like |
| 21:46.32 | teledyn | tvynr: and i think gparted is based on a hacked d-i |
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| 21:49.11 | Q1712 | hi, is there a X config tool for Xorg (etch) that workes, when "X -configure" does not |
| 21:49.14 | Q1712 | ? |
| 21:49.28 | teledyn | !drxx |
| 21:49.28 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 21:49.53 | Q1712 | ty |
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| 21:51.49 | uptownben | Flimzy: DEFAULT /vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686 |
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| 21:52.03 | Flimzy | uptownben: Is that all? |
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| 21:52.55 | uptownben | Flimzy: APPEND boot=casper initrd=/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686 ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw ip=frommedia quickreboot livemount=/boot showmounts |
| 21:54.26 | uptownben | Flimzy: that's it |
| 21:54.27 | mike1980 | Hi guys what do I need to get flash working with Iceweasel on x86_64 ? ThANKS |
| 21:54.27 | Flimzy | uptownben: Okay... something's broken with it. |
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| 21:54.27 | Flimzy | uptownben: I just booted with the same image I gave you, and it does the same thing. |
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| 21:54.27 | Flimzy | uptownben: It's not putting /boot in the right place for some reason. |
| 21:54.28 | Flimzy | uptownben: You could probably get it to work by doing this: |
| 21:54.28 | Flimzy | ln -s /live_media /boot |
| 21:54.31 | Flimzy | uptownben: Then run 'moo' |
| 21:55.03 | mike1980 | !flash |
| 21:55.03 | dpkg | it has been said that flash is http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 21:55.56 | uptownben | Flimzy: OK.. I'll boot back inot it an retry |
| 21:56.00 | uptownben | *into |
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| 21:57.32 | tsb | If you map a drive over sshfs, and that account uses a soft symbolic link to some other place, how can you make it access the remote dir and not the "local" one? I realize that's not happening with a softlink, is there any alternative to hardlinking? |
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| 21:59.16 | uptownben | Flimzy: I modified the /etc/hosts file, saved it and typed moo.. its processing |
| 21:59.24 | Flimzy | uptownben: cool :) |
| 21:59.29 | Flimzy | uptownben: you did the symlink? |
| 21:59.42 | uptownben | Flimzy: yes |
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| 22:00.04 | Flimzy | uptownben: cool. that should work around the fact that it's not moving /live_media to /boot (I'm not sure why it's not... probably a bug I forgot to fix) |
| 22:01.04 | uptownben | Flimzy: so I should be able to do that aftermaking any changes right now to create the new squashfs with the changes included? |
| 22:01.38 | Flimzy | uptownben: Just do the symlink once... before running moo. |
| 22:03.08 | uptownben | Flimzy: looks stuck. |
| 22:03.20 | Flimzy | uptownben: at what point? |
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| 22:04.56 | uptownben | After typing moo.. it starts ticking,, (little dots).. then I get a bunch of error in reading symbolic link, skipping: no such file or directory lines and some more dots.. but it just stopped after the second row of dots |
| 22:05.15 | mike1980 | !flash |
| 22:05.15 | dpkg | from memory, flash is http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 22:06.18 | mike1980 | anyone know why I am getting this "GPG error: http://www.backports.org sarge-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C" apt-get update |
| 22:06.20 | ZeeO | after a dist-upgrade my box did't come back you guys think its cheeper to have tech look at it from hosting bis or pay for the os reload? |
| 22:06.27 | ZeeO | os reload is 50 bux |
| 22:06.30 | ZeeO | one time fee |
| 22:06.36 | ZeeO | tech is like 30 a hr |
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| 22:07.04 | uptownben | Flimzy: crashed.. I cant type in any of the other consoles. |
| 22:07.05 | stew | mike1980: /msg dpkg apt-secure ; /msg dpkg apt-key 116BA136C |
| 22:07.13 | Flimzy | uptownben: grr |
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| 22:07.25 | Flimzy | uptownben: It sounds like I need to do some additional testing, huh? |
| 22:07.30 | mike1980 | stew: thnaks |
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| 22:07.58 | uptownben | Flimzy: sounds like it. |
| 22:08.08 | dummy | upgrade from stable to testing requires hotplug purge? |
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| 22:08.23 | uptownben | Flimzy: in the mean time. as long as I dont run moo. i should be OK.. correct? |
| 22:08.31 | Flimzy | uptownben: Yeah, probably. |
| 22:08.41 | stew | dummy: not necessarily, but usually |
| 22:08.50 | anapivirtua | Cya, night. |
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| 22:09.20 | uptownben | Flimzy: I mean.. my changes wont stick.. but I wont burn my CF with unecessary writes.. |
| 22:09.35 | stew | !apt secure =~ s#ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key>#ask me about <no public key># |
| 22:09.35 | dpkg | stew: OK |
| 22:09.47 | dummy | ok |
| 22:09.50 | Flimzy | uptownben: right. |
| 22:10.02 | Flimzy | uptownben: I'll work on figuring out the bug probably on Monday. |
| 22:10.15 | Flimzy | uptownben: There's a new official version of casper that I need to incorperate my changes into anyway... |
| 22:10.28 | Flimzy | uptownben: I won't have time this weekend, tho. Find me here on Mon or Tue, and we'll see where we stand, okay? |
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| 22:10.52 | uptownben | Flimzy: OK. |
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| 22:13.18 | VImtermute | cya later yall |
| 22:13.23 | samuk | i run etch + xfce, i have plugged in a fat32 formatted USB and a icon appears on the desktop, if i try to to open any files i get an error; cant find /etc/fstab media/sdb1 or /etc/mtab. I have udev installed. How can i mount the drive please? |
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| 22:13.56 | GMouse | What does "Bad pte" in syslog mean? |
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| 22:19.03 | mzilikazi | samuk: i use the thunar-volman plugin - works pretty good for automount of removeable media |
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| 22:19.05 | mzilikazi | http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/ |
| 22:19.14 | mzilikazi | no debs |
| 22:19.26 | mzilikazi | checkinstall works :) |
| 22:19.33 | samuk | Ok Thanks |
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| 22:20.18 | mike1980 | Ok I am a noobie How to I use this "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 116BA136C ; gpg --export 116BA136C | sudo apt-key add -;" |
| 22:20.38 | mike1980 | I want to add 116BA136C |
| 22:20.42 | stew | mike1980: paste that into a shell |
| 22:20.59 | stew | mike1980: you'd either need sudo access to run apt-key, or you'd need to do it as root |
| 22:21.14 | stew | (and if you don't have sudo installed, you'd have to do it as root omitting the word 'sudo') |
| 22:21.22 | mike1980 | stew:gpg: "116BA136C" not a key ID: skipping |
| 22:21.22 | mike1980 | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 22:21.22 | mike1980 | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
| 22:21.38 | stew | mike1980: oh, take off one of the leading '1's |
| 22:21.50 | stew | mike1980: it should only be the last 8 chars, not 9 |
| 22:21.56 | mike1980 | stew: ah ok thanks |
| 22:22.43 | mike1980 | stew: so it's look like this "6BA136C" |
| 22:23.06 | stew | mike1980: that's only 7, add a 1 to the front |
| 22:23.19 | mike1980 | stew: ok cool thanks let me try |
| 22:23.50 | mike1980 | stew: o ultimately trusted keys found |
| 22:23.50 | mike1980 | gpg: Total number processed: 1 |
| 22:23.50 | mike1980 | gpg: imported: 1 |
| 22:23.50 | mike1980 | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 22:23.50 | mike1980 | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
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| 22:23.51 | stew | GMouse: hi |
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| 22:24.21 | stew | !tell mike1980 about paste |
| 22:24.26 | mike1980 | sorry |
| 22:24.46 | GMouse | stew: Still having troubles with that server, but I managed to pull a couple of logs from it. Hopefully they'll shed some light on the matter. |
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| 22:24.52 | geo-rge | irc is a summary medium |
| 22:25.05 | geo-rge | so... summarize :) combine :) |
| 22:25.49 | stew | mike1980: does "gpg --list-keys 16BA136C" return a key? |
| 22:26.01 | stew | uid Backports.org Archive Key <ftp-master@backports.org> |
| 22:27.23 | mike1980 | !flash |
| 22:27.24 | dpkg | flash is, like, http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 22:29.38 | mike1980 | stew: really all I am trying to do is install "flashplugin-nonfree" so I can get flash woring in iceweasel |
| 22:29.52 | stew | mike1980: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 22:30.20 | geo-rge | well you would need non-free sources at minimum |
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| 22:30.45 | mike1980 | stew: etch 64 bit |
| 22:30.59 | stew | mike1980: then remove backports.org from sources.list, that is for sarge, not etch |
| 22:31.03 | stew | (currently) |
| 22:31.06 | ole | has anybody tried to make-jpkg out of latest jdk 6 SE package? |
| 22:31.13 | mike1980 | stew: ok one sec |
| 22:31.16 | stew | ole: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 22:31.23 | ole | stew, testing |
| 22:31.35 | stew | !info sun-java6-jd5 testing |
| 22:31.39 | stew | !info sun-java6-jdk testing |
| 22:31.49 | stew | hrm |
| 22:31.55 | mike1980 | stew: ok done and did apt-get update after |
| 22:33.05 | stew | ole: its in unstable, (http://packages.debian.org/sun-java6-jdk). so i'd guess that java-package in unstable can handle it, or you can install the jdk by downloading it from that page and installing with dpkg -i |
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| 22:34.25 | ole | I'll go with the second option |
| 22:34.29 | ole | thx |
| 22:34.44 | samu1 | i tried logging into gnome and i still can't mount this USB ( i ran into dependency issues with thunar-volman) |
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| 22:35.43 | mike1980 | stew: I have to eat dinner now but thanks for your help. I will come back here later. Cheers |
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| 22:36.00 | SmallR2002 | i wonder... hmmm |
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| 22:36.31 | x_link | Hi |
| 22:36.33 | SmallR2002 | is it possible with a laptop to have one output on your VGA screen and one on your inbuilt screen? |
| 22:36.38 | x_link | How do I backup my bookmarks in Iceweasel? |
| 22:37.03 | samu1 | x-link foxmarks? |
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| 22:37.55 | stoned | x_link: bookmarks menu, organize bookmarks, then file > import/export |
| 22:37.56 | stew | x_link: ls ~/.mozilla/*/*/bookmarks.html |
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| 22:38.10 | SmallR2002 | hullo x_link, saw you over at #kde didn't i? |
| 22:38.15 | x_link | Ahh ok, thanks |
| 22:38.28 | x_link | SmallR2002: Yes, I'm there as well =) |
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| 22:40.00 | grendal_prime | ok im trying to mount an ntfs-3g drive, it errors on the mount, is there a way to execute that and capture the error that returns into a variable, (or better yet jus the fact that the mount did error)\ |
| 22:40.03 | SmallR2002 | nice to see a familiar face |
| 22:40.07 | grendal_prime | with bash |
| 22:40.31 | SmallR2002 | grendal_prime, ntfs + linux = voodoo |
| 22:41.03 | grendal_prime | SmallR2002: noshit??? dude...all i am doing is mounting it to read a few files, not even write things to it. |
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| 22:41.07 | x_link | SmallR2002: hehe |
| 22:41.12 | geo-rge | linux = oooo, ntfs = vd |
| 22:41.18 | x_link | geo-rge: Hi |
| 22:41.30 | geo-rge | hi |
| 22:41.32 | x_link | I have actually had "alot" of stuff to do this 2 days with my machine. |
| 22:41.37 | x_link | And I REALLY LOVE that... |
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| 22:41.56 | x_link | Now I'm configuring my X. Feels so damn good for me to have something to do. |
| 22:42.40 | cusco | dudes... I just got a new hp pc and I was trying to install with the net install...etch rc1 |
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| 22:42.58 | cusco | guess what! network isn't working and I can't figure out why |
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| 22:43.30 | x_link | cusco: When it's configuring DHCP ? |
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| 22:43.45 | x_link | cusco: Do you use the new Debian Installer? |
| 22:43.46 | cusco | x_link: nor dhcp nor static connection |
| 22:43.52 | cusco | x_link: Im using the text one |
| 22:43.57 | cusco | acording to lspci its a intel corporation 82562v |
| 22:43.57 | x_link | Ok |
| 22:44.14 | cusco | according to dmesg the module eth1394 is loaded |
| 22:44.26 | x_link | cusco: I had problems with DHCP as well, I just restarted my modem, then the DHCP Configuration worked just find |
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| 22:44.33 | cusco | ifconfig shows eth0 with the static IP I gave it... |
| 22:44.41 | geo-rge | cusco: does ifconfig eth0 show a (P)aragraph or (E)rror message? |
| 22:44.46 | cusco | x_link: I take the cable out to my laptop and it works... |
| 22:44.54 | geo-rge | ohh, so paragraph |
| 22:44.59 | x_link | ok. |
| 22:45.04 | cusco | geo-rge: nothing |
| 22:45.12 | cusco | I mean... not sure just normal |
| 22:45.18 | geo-rge | ifconfig eth0? |
| 22:45.22 | x_link | cusco: I'm the last guy that can help. I'm really the worst newbie you can ever meet. |
| 22:45.30 | geo-rge | not just ifconfig |
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| 22:46.08 | mx-zoom | is it possible to make exceptions when deleting files? for example: sudo rm -R * (except) someflder |
| 22:46.13 | cusco | geo-rge: seems fine.. thou I took the cable to my laptop |
| 22:46.44 | cusco | mx-zoom: maybe move the folder out of there first? |
| 22:47.20 | samu1 | could anyone help me to mount a fat32 USB device in etch please? |
| 22:47.36 | geo-rge | has this hardware ever worked with a linux? |
| 22:47.46 | samu1 | yes |
| 22:47.50 | cusco | first time trying it out |
| 22:47.53 | cusco | oops |
| 22:47.55 | cusco | not for me |
| 22:48.08 | geo-rge | yeah, sorry cusco, that was for you |
| 22:48.27 | geo-rge | so you're saying: |
| 22:48.33 | cusco | oh.. its a intel network card should do.. I can google for it if you want.. its a brand new box tho.. so I dunno |
| 22:48.44 | geo-rge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.50 | cusco | geo-rge: yes |
| 22:48.56 | cusco | also lsmod shows the module loaded |
| 22:49.05 | geo-rge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.09 | cusco | yes |
| 22:49.13 | geo-rge | ok, good |
| 22:49.34 | cusco | but I can't stablish any connection |
| 22:49.35 | cusco | no host |
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| 22:49.49 | geo-rge | what's your IP |
| 22:49.54 | geo-rge | inside that is |
| 22:50.04 | cusco | 192.168.1.115 |
| 22:50.23 | geo-rge | ok, what's the inside addr of the gateway? |
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| 22:50.29 | geo-rge | and what's the netmask |
| 22:50.32 | cusco | 192.168.1.1 |
| 22:50.40 | chronographer | hi all, did anyone else have trouble with the latest update? |
| 22:50.43 | geo-rge | can you ping the gateway? |
| 22:50.47 | cusco | netmask 255 255 255 0 |
| 22:50.51 | cusco | no |
| 22:50.52 | geo-rge | ok |
| 22:50.56 | cusco | actually on the installer |
| 22:50.59 | cusco | there is no command ping |
| 22:51.00 | cusco | available |
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| 22:51.02 | cusco | lol |
| 22:51.21 | chronographer | my nvidia is not working with the ne wkernel update (is that what you call it?) |
| 22:51.30 | geo-rge | hmm, that would be a handy addition to busybox |
| 22:52.01 | cusco | busybox has ping as far as I know |
| 22:52.07 | cusco | but then again.. what do I know |
| 22:52.11 | geo-rge | ok, what form does the gatway take? lil blue plastic box? |
| 22:52.18 | cusco | ? |
| 22:52.22 | cusco | yes |
| 22:52.27 | cusco | with two anthenas |
| 22:52.42 | cusco | hanging on the wall... flashing some green lights... |
| 22:52.45 | geo-rge | ok, so your internal is wireless? |
| 22:52.57 | cusco | my internal what? |
| 22:53.01 | geo-rge | net |
| 22:53.08 | cusco | the network card, eth0 is wired |
| 22:53.09 | nyty | elo |
| 22:53.12 | nyty | i`m so eeee :D |
| 22:53.13 | chronographer | do you think that doing an dpkg reconfigure would fix it? (im prolly being a bit vague here... after the update, there is another entry in grub and this entry fails to load x. problem with nvidia. ) |
| 22:53.19 | nyty | nvidiaaa :D |
| 22:53.26 | nyty | some problems with stable drivers |
| 22:53.31 | nyty | you must use expermientalost |
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| 22:53.32 | nyty | :D |
| 22:53.45 | chronographer | you talkin to me? |
| 22:53.54 | nyty | yes |
| 22:54.02 | nyty | i had problems with nvidia |
| 22:54.04 | nyty | 7600 GT |
| 22:54.07 | ssstormy | hello. I have a question. when I change the resolution on my computer (which is dual-headed, nvidia twinview) |
| 22:54.10 | chronographer | oh right, i have the working nvidia drivers installed |
| 22:54.11 | nyty | it works bad in games |
| 22:54.13 | nyty | wrong textures |
| 22:54.19 | nyty | hmm okay |
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| 22:54.26 | ssstormy | the picture of the screen is way down on my monitor |
| 22:54.27 | chronographer | but debian etch updated just this morning and now xorg doesn't start up |
| 22:54.35 | nyty | hmm |
| 22:54.38 | nyty | ;-) |
| 22:54.41 | nyty | i drunk alcohol |
| 22:54.46 | nyty | sorry, i cant care to you :-) |
| 22:54.50 | corpcomp | newby Q. What is the commandline syntax to install a deb file already downloaded? |
| 22:54.53 | chronographer | oh ok, you probably shouldn't ty to help! |
| 22:55.09 | nyty | what the log say ? |
| 22:55.22 | chronographer | er.... something about nvidia. |
| 22:55.27 | geo-rge | cusco: so you have a cat5 (or so) cable connected from the machine to the gateway? |
| 22:55.32 | nyty | past it to pastebin |
| 22:55.42 | chronographer | nvm i will use the old kernel, might come back and ask questions later. |
| 22:55.44 | nyty | and paste the link here |
| 22:55.59 | chronographer | i am a bit new,. dont know how to get it. |
| 22:56.03 | geo-rge | !nvidia oneliner |
| 22:56.04 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 22:56.07 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 22:56.08 | nyty | www.pastebin.com |
| 22:56.24 | nyty | copy & paste /var/log/Xorg???.log |
| 22:56.24 | corpcomp | ty |
| 22:56.29 | geo-rge | that might help, might not |
| 22:56.31 | cusco | geo-rge: yes |
| 22:56.31 | chronographer | ok hold on. |
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| 22:58.03 | Spec | does inetd's "daytime" and "time" really need to run? |
| 22:58.28 | nyty | i dont like debian |
| 22:58.31 | nyty | windows vista is better |
| 22:58.46 | geo-rge | cusco: one thing you can try at this point is to install using a netinst cd... the base will come from the cd, you reboot then you can setup networking after |
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| 22:58.47 | Spec | i'm gonna pretend i was hallucinating when i read that |
| 22:58.55 | geo-rge | (when you have a few more tools :) |
| 22:58.56 | x_link | apt-get autoclean just removed things I really don't use, right? |
| 22:59.03 | nyty | windows vista |
| 22:59.09 | CyberGabber | nyty: Wrong channel :-) |
| 22:59.13 | Spec | apt-get clean just cleans up the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives i believe |
| 22:59.29 | nyty | how to install nvidia graphic card under windows vista |
| 22:59.35 | chronographer | ok its posted, under 'chronographer' |
| 22:59.44 | cusco | geo-rge: how am I going to setup networking? |
| 22:59.59 | nyty | i`m lame |
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| 23:00.02 | nyty | i`m debian like system :D |
| 23:00.12 | nyty | huh |
| 23:00.14 | nyty | :LDD:D:D:D:D |
| 23:00.14 | geo-rge | cusco: in that scenario, you won't need to until after the base is installed and booted... |
| 23:00.17 | geo-rge | there is a file |
| 23:00.25 | cusco | yes |
| 23:00.26 | x_link | Spec: Okey, but what can I use for cleaning? |
| 23:00.27 | geo-rge | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.32 | cusco | I know what you are talking about |
| 23:00.40 | cusco | I know that file, mather a fact I have access to it right no |
| 23:00.43 | Spec | x_link: cleaning what? |
| 23:00.46 | cusco | I have set a static ip already |
| 23:00.47 | cusco | not working |
| 23:00.54 | cusco | geo-rge: you're not helping |
| 23:00.59 | geo-rge | that file describes to commands ifup ifdown what interfaces you have |
| 23:01.13 | nyty | C:/windows/system32/etc/network/interfaces in windows vista so :-) |
| 23:01.14 | cusco | the interface is up and configured |
| 23:01.16 | chronographer | nvm all see you laterz |
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| 23:01.23 | cusco | the problem relies somewhere else |
| 23:01.44 | geo-rge | ok, then verify that the link is physically up... |
| 23:01.48 | nyty | all: Say WOW |
| 23:01.50 | nyty | :DDDDD |
| 23:01.53 | geo-rge | everything else depends on that |
| 23:02.07 | nyty | hey all |
| 23:02.12 | nyty | debian is shit, you must like windows vista |
| 23:02.17 | cusco | physically? |
| 23:02.28 | nyty | it`s newest system |
| 23:02.29 | cusco | its up, the network card flash the lights.. |
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| 23:02.33 | geo-rge | got link lights on on both sides? |
| 23:02.33 | nyty | with new graphic works :D |
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| 23:02.40 | cusco | yes |
| 23:02.48 | nyty | geo-rge: say "WOW" |
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| 23:03.26 | geo-rge | I'd say hold off on configuring the net until base is installed. then you'll have more tools to deal with the problem (like ping) |
| 23:03.43 | nyty | george: if you dont say wow you dont like microsoft |
| 23:03.45 | cusco | ping will say the same as ssh |
| 23:03.48 | cusco | no host |
| 23:04.01 | nyty | hmm |
| 23:04.03 | nyty | cusco: test route -n |
| 23:04.07 | nyty | what it sais ? |
| 23:04.15 | geo-rge | that's precisely what it says? |
| 23:04.39 | samuk | anyone help me with this USB mount error please? http://pastebin.ca/379040 |
| 23:04.50 | nyty | cusco: to console route -n |
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| 23:05.16 | nyty | samuk: some appz want to lock to your usb device |
| 23:05.56 | Flimzy | uptownben: You still around? |
| 23:05.58 | Caelum | is it possible to upgrade a system from i386 to amd64? |
| 23:06.01 | samuk | how could i find out which ones? |
| 23:06.05 | geo-rge | other than that... verify (A) that the router will return ping replies, (B) the net card you're using is working properly and (C) the wired side of the router is working. |
| 23:06.11 | nyty | samuk:hmm |
| 23:06.13 | nyty | i dont know |
| 23:06.16 | nyty | look for ps -aux |
| 23:06.29 | geo-rge | Also, do you have the cable plugged into the right port on the router? |
| 23:06.35 | nyty | if you using the =device by some app such as browser :-) like as konqueror |
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| 23:06.49 | nyty | :D |
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| 23:07.39 | geo-rge | do you have another nic you can try? |
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| 23:08.36 | geo-rge | nonresponsive, also ego/attitude problem and failure to be absolutely specific. Good luck with that. |
| 23:08.38 | nyty | mm |
| 23:08.49 | nyty | george: what problem did he have |
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| 23:09.06 | wols | Caelum: yes by reinstalling |
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| 23:09.28 | wols | samuk: lsof can tell you which |
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| 23:09.47 | staticxsource | does anyone know how i can install baghira them for kde - typed apt-get kwin-baghira, but what do i need to do next? |
| 23:09.57 | enzo | hi people |
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| 23:10.26 | enzo | i have a problem with my system, i cannot make programs with gcc i get this error |
| 23:10.37 | enzo | gcc: error trying to exec 'ld': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 23:10.38 | wols | staticxsource: you need to read the apt manpage obviously |
| 23:10.39 | geo-rge | carefluy |
| 23:10.56 | samuk | wols could you look please? http://pastebin.ca/379050 |
| 23:10.58 | wols | !tell enzo about build-essential |
| 23:11.05 | geo-rge | enzo: what operating system are you running |
| 23:11.25 | geo-rge | wols: he has gcc but not binutils? there is a dep there |
| 23:11.33 | enzo | geo-rge, i use debian etch |
| 23:11.35 | nyty | samuk: you must install windows 98 |
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| 23:11.50 | geo-rge | enzo: do you have binutils installed? |
| 23:11.53 | enzo | wols, i don't understand you |
| 23:12.21 | enzo | geo-rge, let me check |
| 23:12.22 | geo-rge | that would be an easy way to just do it... read what dpkg just told you |
| 23:12.26 | nyty | use windows 98 |
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| 23:12.58 | geo-rge | if your system can find gcc but not ld there is something -seriously- wrong or you're not running debian |
| 23:13.12 | staticxsource | is it in man apt-get? |
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| 23:13.51 | enzo | synaptic say i have installed, but i don't have installed the dev package, let me install to check |
| 23:14.29 | geo-rge | apt-get install build-essential |
| 23:14.37 | geo-rge | then try your compile again |
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| 23:14.58 | geo-rge | how did you install gcc? |
| 23:14.58 | nyty | geo-rge |
| 23:15.02 | nyty | you must use windows 98 |
| 23:15.17 | enzo | geo-rge, with synaptic |
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| 23:15.24 | wols | nyty: please stop that |
| 23:15.26 | nyty | :D |
| 23:15.30 | geo-rge | echo $PATH |
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| 23:15.40 | nyty | i`m windows 95 user |
| 23:15.44 | nyty | it`s best system |
| 23:15.56 | cusco | ah! actually I found out whats the problem |
| 23:15.59 | cusco | sort off |
| 23:16.01 | cusco | of |
| 23:16.06 | nyty | i dont like microsoft |
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| 23:16.14 | enzo | geo-rge, i'm run apt-get install build-essential, but the problem is the same |
| 23:16.24 | geo-rge | echo $PATH |
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| 23:16.27 | cusco | while I chose the option "detect netowkr hardware" the console shows |
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| 23:16.33 | nyty | enzo: are you running amd64? |
| 23:16.42 | type0 | will samba act as a domain controller? |
| 23:16.42 | samuk | can i just mount this USB from a command line? how would i try that please? |
| 23:16.50 | nyty | type0: it can be |
| 23:16.53 | nyty | if you want |
| 23:16.56 | type0 | what's a better solution? |
| 23:16.58 | nyty | but yu must have some package |
| 23:17.02 | nyty | novell :-) |
| 23:17.04 | wols | samuk: man mount |
| 23:17.07 | geo-rge | forget microsoft? |
| 23:17.10 | type0 | heh |
| 23:17.17 | enzo | nyty, no i have a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz |
| 23:17.18 | nyty | samuk: you can |
| 23:17.20 | x_link | Spec: Files etc. I don't know, I'm just guessing. There were alot of cleaning tool sin Windows, but I guess I have to stop thinking about that kind of stuff now =) |
| 23:17.23 | nyty | enzo: hmm |
| 23:17.25 | cusco | udevd-event[13850] run_program: exec of program '/lib/udevd/net/agent' failed |
| 23:17.30 | type0 | I would love to buy windows server licenses, and cals, but no. |
| 23:17.31 | cusco | and this file doesn'te xist! |
| 23:17.37 | nyty | i have some problems with build essential on amd64 |
| 23:17.53 | nyty | type0: windows is best |
| 23:18.00 | type0 | heh |
| 23:18.00 | nyty | such as vista |
| 23:18.05 | nyty | it`s best |
| 23:18.08 | wols | x_link: there are many cleaning tools in debian too: dpkg, apt-get synaptic, aptitude |
| 23:18.08 | nyty | copy of macosx |
| 23:18.11 | type0 | you're in a debian irc channel, telling me windows is best |
| 23:18.11 | wols | tons really |
| 23:18.23 | nyty | if you dont use windows you are not professional pc master |
| 23:18.24 | nyty | :D |
| 23:18.31 | type0 | heh |
| 23:18.36 | type0 | ./version type0 |
| 23:18.36 | wols | type0: he`s just trolling |
| 23:18.39 | samuk | nyty you bore me |
| 23:18.42 | nyty | :D |
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| 23:18.50 | enzo | geo-rge, another tip? |
| 23:18.56 | type0 | seriously though, what's better than samba for domain controllers? |
| 23:18.57 | nyty | samuk: okay sorry |
| 23:19.04 | nyty | samuk: you dont respect bill |
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| 23:19.17 | x_link | wols: You men apt-get autclean or clean, aptitude clean? or what? |
| 23:19.26 | plediii | Where do I find documentation on setting up a wireless pcmcia card? I can't find anything in the installation module or obvious (to me) google queries |
| 23:19.38 | geo-rge | anyone who doesn't want to hear nyty should be able to do /ignore *!*@r3t43.net.upc.cz all |
| 23:19.41 | nyty | plediii: what |
| 23:19.47 | nyty | plediii: what card do you have ? |
| 23:19.57 | wols | plediii: what does lspci say what card it is? |
| 23:19.57 | geo-rge | I did about 15 mins ago... nice and silent |
| 23:19.59 | nyty | all: i stop it sorry :-0 |
| 23:20.00 | cusco | plediii: whats the chipset? |
| 23:20.05 | type0 | nyty is czech.. that explains it |
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| 23:20.09 | plediii | DLink G-630 |
| 23:20.13 | type0 | I have a house in prague.. they're an odd sort |
| 23:20.22 | plediii | DLink DWL G-630 |
| 23:20.22 | cusco | plediii: that is not the chipset |
| 23:20.30 | wols | plediii: doesnt say anything. we need the chipset |
| 23:20.35 | plediii | ah chipset, i'd have to look that up |
| 23:20.40 | wols | is it showing in lspci? |
| 23:20.42 | plediii | let me see |
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| 23:20.54 | staticxsource | i used the command apt-get install kwin-baghira - although it still isn't installed correctly, or cannot see it under control center - themes |
| 23:21.03 | type0 | anyone..? |
| 23:21.07 | type0 | ?? > samba? |
| 23:21.19 | plediii | what would I look for from lspci? |
| 23:21.26 | geo-rge | there might be #samba here |
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| 23:21.39 | wols | staticxsource: dpkg -L kwin-baghira | grep bin |
| 23:21.42 | cusco | plediii: lspci |grep -i net |
| 23:21.46 | CyberGabber | type0: Read http://samba.netfirms.com/PDC.htm for info about Samba-DC |
| 23:21.54 | cusco | you should get a network adapter |
| 23:22.08 | wols | plediii: for your network card, provided you have installed the pcmcia drivers correctls |
| 23:22.13 | wols | correctly |
| 23:22.20 | samuk | If i put the wrong thing into /etc/fstab could I lose data? is it danergous? |
| 23:22.29 | plediii | ok, then atheros communications, AR5005G |
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| 23:22.34 | wols | samuk: no |
| 23:22.37 | cusco | samuk: you could stop partitions from mounting |
| 23:22.50 | cusco | plediii: atheros uses madwifi |
| 23:22.55 | cusco | !madwifi |
| 23:22.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, madwifi is for ATHEROS chipset wireless devices more information can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian, or type "/join #madwifi" in your client now, or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (woody/sarge only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' see also madwifi.one.liner |
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| 23:23.04 | corpcomp | How can I allow root to logon via the gui? I am wanting to run gbindadmin for my dns |
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| 23:23.08 | lampyris | hello |
| 23:23.10 | wols | but depending what you change in fstab, the system can become unbootable |
| 23:23.36 | CyberGabber | type0: More stuff to read : http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html |
| 23:23.36 | plediii | Ok, that sounds like it would work. Thank you cusco et al. |
| 23:23.39 | staticxsource | usr/bin usr/bin/bab |
| 23:23.51 | samuk | i have no sdb entry in fstab, this usb seems to be sdb so i was going to try that |
| 23:24.15 | geo-rge | corpcomp: either ssh root@localhost (need xbase-clients installed for that to work) or else look at the config files for your *dm |
| 23:24.24 | karsten | Is there a device file associated with the hwclock? |
| 23:24.51 | karsten | /dev/rtc |
| 23:25.10 | wols | samuk: sounds right |
| 23:25.11 | geo-rge | that could be a loose association |
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| 23:26.00 | corpcomp | geo-rge: OK, that made no sense to me. How can I run an application from the gui that requires root? |
| 23:26.12 | cusco | corpcomp: gksudo |
| 23:26.17 | cusco | or install sudo |
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| 23:26.52 | wols | cusco: kdesu |
| 23:27.02 | corpcomp | cusco: I will try sudo. ty |
| 23:27.04 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: Are you using the Gnome Desktop manager for login ? |
| 23:27.09 | cusco | ok kdesu |
| 23:27.28 | corpcomp | CyberGabber: Yes Gnome |
| 23:27.41 | wols | nah, wrong nick complete here |
| 23:27.47 | wols | was for the other c* |
| 23:27.51 | cusco | :p |
| 23:28.28 | simonrvn | !ping |
| 23:28.29 | dpkg | pong |
| 23:28.33 | wols | and sudo might have xauth issues |
| 23:28.46 | wols | evening simonrvn |
| 23:29.02 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 23:30.28 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: In Gnome Login Manager, 'choose Actions', then 'Config login manger' and typ in your root password |
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| 23:31.05 | samuk | i dont get it couls someone tell me what to put in fstab? this is as far as i have got.. http://pastebin.ca/379045 should it be /media/usb? http://pastebin.ca/379071 |
| 23:31.28 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: Then choose tab 'security', and flag the option "allow local system admin login". Now exit the Gnome login manager. |
| 23:32.00 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: Now it should be possible to login graphical as root. |
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| 23:32.37 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: Running your system graphical as root is an security-risk |
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| 23:33.40 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: You can do this procedure without logging out or shutting down |
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| 23:34.51 | CyberGabber | corpcomp: Choose 'Log out ...' , 'switch user', than you can do the above actions |
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| 23:36.05 | enzo | people someone here know how i can install execvp in the debian system |
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| 23:37.16 | ericg | Hi, How to crypt sha1 a string in console and have the encrypt string? |
| 23:37.30 | ericg | (password of a user) |
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| 23:38.38 | samuk | is this a reasonable guess as what to put in fstab? /dev/sdb1 /media/usb fat32 defaults 0 0 |
| 23:39.13 | ebw | ericg: call sha1sum type your string press ctrl-d. I think. |
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| 23:39.57 | dan2 | asg: how are ya |
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| 23:41.54 | jelly-home | samuk: user,noauto and uid=... might be useful |
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| 23:43.39 | Wolfcastle | greetings |
| 23:43.47 | Wolfcastle | does anybody know how to install kickoff in debian? |
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| 23:44.48 | wols | !find kickoff |
| 23:44.56 | samuk | where uid= ???? |
| 23:45.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kickoff' (3 of 5): (/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/actions/irkickoff.svgz) in kde/kde-icons-mono ;; (/usr/share/apps/irkick/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/irkickoff.png) in utils/kdelirc ;; (/usr/share/openclipart/png/computer/icons/flat-theme/action/irkickoff.png) in graphics/openclipart-png. |
| 23:45.11 | wols | execvp is a libc function iirc |
| 23:45.21 | ZeeO | can some one help me with pure ftp i have installed pure-ftpd-mysql but don't seem to find a pure-ftp.conf |
| 23:45.23 | ZeeO | no place |
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| 23:49.24 | samuk | /dev/sdb1 /media/usb fat32 user,noauto and uid= 0 0 |
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| 23:51.56 | melodos | hi. i want to set up a really simple home server for sharing my files on a network. Is debian making that easy for me? it's the first time i'm soing something like this... never made a server again |
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| 23:54.06 | melodos | oi |
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| 23:57.11 | kupesoft | I just set up a serial console (/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 38400 vt100), but when I access it, it isn't "interactive" - that is, data isn't sent until a line-ending is found. Is this normal? Can I change this behavior? |
| 23:57.37 | kupesoft | I'm using a usb-to-serial adapter over a null modem cable to the debian server, |
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