| 00:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 721] by debhelper |
| 00:00.43 | *** join/#debian khermans__ (n=khermans@65.96.191.13) |
| 00:01.00 | khermans__ | "Suddenly the Dungeon collapses!! - You die..." |
| 00:01.01 | *** join/#debian cwheeler (n=cosmic@cw.cosmicfires.com) |
| 00:01.16 | *** part/#debian dirkson (n=dirkson@c-24-21-251-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 00:01.23 | khermans__ | can someone explain why screen crashed with that error message? |
| 00:02.31 | *** join/#debian Pons (n=pons@unaffiliated/pons) |
| 00:03.03 | karsten | khermans__: It's an internal error message in screen. It generally indicates something bad happend. |
| 00:03.13 | karsten | khermans__: I looked it up in the sources once, forget the specifics. |
| 00:03.34 | *** join/#debian jkp_ (n=jkp@80-47-93-133.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com) |
| 00:03.45 | *** join/#debian cartesian1984 (n=ubuntu@69-161-80-217.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 00:04.07 | khermans__ | karsten, so it has never been fixed? |
| 00:04.21 | khermans__ | karsten, do you remember why you got the error? |
| 00:04.46 | cartesian1984 | Okay, grub fails on my box without an error. It just prints 'GRUB'. Any idea why? |
| 00:05.01 | abrotman | ask #grub ? |
| 00:05.09 | *** join/#debian vor (n=s@bzq-88-152-171-222.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 00:05.16 | karsten | khermans__: It's not a screen bug, it's a legitimate error message. |
| 00:05.29 | khermans__ | karsten, from what? |
| 00:05.35 | abrotman | or you were playing nethack in screen |
| 00:05.35 | karsten | khermans__: from screen. |
| 00:05.55 | khermans__ | karsten, do you mean the application i was running in screen? |
| 00:05.55 | cartesian1984 | abrotman: I have before, but I've never gotten a response. Google doesn't know either, or I'm just lacking decent search terms. |
| 00:06.02 | karsten | khermans__: Just launch another session. If you _do_ run into the error again sometime soon, start losing sleep. |
| 00:06.24 | hatter | or you got hacked so someone can play nethack in screen for you to see on your screen. |
| 00:06.33 | amphi | I used to get that error quite often on the hurd ;) |
| 00:06.37 | khermans__ | karsten, well the problem is that the process i am running is a script which is populating a SQL database from a 700MB CSV file |
| 00:06.48 | karsten | khermans__: You lose. |
| 00:06.52 | khermans__ | it took 5 hours to get that error :-( |
| 00:06.55 | khermans__ | so i lose again!?!?! |
| 00:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 00:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 00:07.00 | cartesian1984 | amphi: is the hurd worth looking at? |
| 00:07.11 | karsten | khermans__: We've got a special today: two for the price of one. |
| 00:07.16 | *** join/#debian kintaro0e (n=kintaro0@tequilla.exist.com) |
| 00:07.21 | karsten | khermans__: Limit per customer ... |
| 00:07.25 | amphi | cartesian1984: it's interesting IMHO, so yeah |
| 00:07.27 | karsten | khermans__: ... as many as you want. |
| 00:07.32 | khermans__ | karsten, but you said it it not a screen bug? |
| 00:07.37 | abrotman | he said it is |
| 00:07.45 | amphi | cartesian1984: I don't have one ATM; it runs fine under qemu |
| 00:07.45 | abrotman | or rather .. an error message within screen |
| 00:07.58 | khermans__ | "<karsten> khermans__: It's not a screen bug, it's a legitimate error message." |
| 00:08.04 | khermans__ | ok i was confused |
| 00:08.20 | karsten | khermans__: It's not a bug in the sense that it's not something wrong with screen. Perhaps you ran out of memory, perhaps the process you were running within screen died, etc. |
| 00:08.22 | khermans__ | fsck! time to grep some sources and recreate ze bug! |
| 00:08.33 | khermans__ | karsten, oh |
| 00:08.34 | *** join/#debian \amethyst (n=neil@74-140-178-145.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 00:08.36 | karsten | khermans__: The point is: screen crashed. Now you could pester me with questions for the rest of the evening ... |
| 00:08.47 | karsten | khermans__: ... or you could download the f*cking source yourself and look at it. |
| 00:08.54 | *** join/#debian baroni (n=baroni@c9348f0b.virtua.com.br) |
| 00:08.58 | khermans__ | karsten, i just told you i am! |
| 00:09.06 | khermans__ | apt-get source screen now... |
| 00:09.39 | karsten | khermans__: Meantime, I'd suggest you run your SQL load script backgrounded and detached, updating a file as to process, to limit its dependencies on other system infrastructure. |
| 00:09.58 | khermans__ | i think i knwo what happened, i tried to insert too much data without doing commits |
| 00:10.34 | karsten | khermans__: ... (good WRT your d/l'ing source). You might also want to monitor the system w/ top and/or check system logs for other errors about that point. If the issue was OOM you may see an OOM killer log message. sar may also tell you something if it's enabled about system state at about that time. |
| 00:11.12 | *** join/#debian Rub3nC (n=ruben@200-71-170-1.genericrev.telcel.net.ve) |
| 00:11.20 | karsten | khermans__: If it makes you feel any better, I've been using screen for ... 5-6 years, and I think I've seen that message once. Years ago at that. |
| 00:11.31 | *** join/#debian Toast (n=toast@dialup-4.232.123.128.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net) |
| 00:12.10 | *** part/#debian vor (n=s@bzq-88-152-171-222.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 00:12.17 | khermans__ | karsten, alrighty then ... thx ... i grep sources now |
| 00:14.04 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 00:14.25 | abrotman | i found it! |
| 00:14.41 | *** join/#debian vabalas (n=null@84.32.74.241) |
| 00:16.02 | streuner | abrotman: Wasn't there any questions about jmicron here lately? |
| 00:16.11 | *** join/#debian McGee (n=rootgauf@p54955D89.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:16.24 | abrotman | streuner: been busy at work .. haven't noticed |
| 00:16.45 | abrotman | i thought the driver was in the dailies now ? |
| 00:17.12 | *** join/#debian braintix_ (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 00:17.13 | streuner | sure, there is jmicron in 2.6.18 |
| 00:17.13 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:17.13 | streuner | as module |
| 00:17.13 | *** join/#debian dZen|n| (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 00:17.29 | karsten | khermans__: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/07/msg01976.html |
| 00:17.32 | streuner | plus generic.all_generic_ide=1 for CD support |
| 00:17.42 | *** join/#debian niaht_ (n=niaht@dsl081-061-112.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:17.50 | *** join/#debian PietroGiovanni (n=pietro@190.48.73.240) |
| 00:18.27 | *** join/#debian niaht (n=niaht@dsl081-061-112.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:18.37 | *** join/#debian Faithful (n=Faithful@ns.linuxterminal.com) |
| 00:18.45 | abrotman | karsten: your real name is jennyw ? |
| 00:18.54 | streuner | hehe |
| 00:19.25 | *** join/#debian guk_ (i=chris@63.135.23.39) |
| 00:20.02 | *** join/#debian ahlfors (n=ahlfors@ip68-110-203-127.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 00:20.08 | karsten | abrotman: My bra size isn't 69-XXX either. |
| 00:20.21 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:20.29 | *** join/#debian Ash-Fox (i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 00:21.36 | *** join/#debian drako (n=ljd@unaffiliated/luisjose) |
| 00:21.59 | bzed | abrotman: wasn't jennyw 13/f/ny ? |
| 00:22.26 | *** part/#debian PietroGiovanni (n=pietro@190.48.73.240) |
| 00:22.27 | *** join/#debian fjavier (n=fgomez@189.132.73.194) |
| 00:22.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:22.42 | bzed | what just made my day is this bugreport: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=410605 << especially have a look at the reporter's email domain :D |
| 00:23.11 | *** join/#debian niaht_ (n=niaht@dsl081-061-112.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:23.46 | dendrite | bzed: Well, FTBFS is serious biz if you're a gentoo puke. :-) |
| 00:24.17 | *** join/#debian cHaPlinux (n=cHaPlinu@200.141.204.83) |
| 00:24.58 | *** join/#debian tsurko (n=tsurko@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg) |
| 00:27.36 | *** join/#debian car_watt (n=car@200.122.186.55) |
| 00:27.43 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 00:28.38 | *** join/#debian amimusa (n=manou@156.Red-80-35-87.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:29.01 | amimusa | hello, there is somebody here who has 5 minutes to test my connection and my server please ? |
| 00:29.46 | streuner | !tell amimusa about ask |
| 00:30.21 | amimusa | streuner: that means you can ? I am not so freaky lol |
| 00:30.42 | khermans__ | bzed, that sounds like a legitimate bug |
| 00:31.17 | streuner | no, that means, just ask your question and give us more details, we might can help then... |
| 00:32.08 | karsten | amimusa: It also means "don't ask to ask" because that 1) gets really annoying w/ 700-800+ people in channel, and 2). we've got to go through this song and dance. |
| 00:32.21 | streuner | no, that doesn't sound like a bug, it sounds rather like a really bad joke |
| 00:33.13 | khermans__ | streuner, why is it not a bug? |
| 00:33.34 | streuner | well, i would trust one of our RM about |
| 00:34.01 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (n=nomaster@105.sub-75-202-248.myvzw.com) |
| 00:34.02 | bzed | khermans__: no, it's not a bug. if you try to build a software which needs zlib without having zlib installed, you're supposed to fail. |
| 00:34.07 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda|w (n=nomaster@105.sub-75-202-248.myvzw.com) |
| 00:34.07 | streuner | and when he say it isn't a bug, its not a bug at all, otherwise he would take care |
| 00:34.45 | khermans__ | bzed, i wonder why gentoo was building dpkg anyways |
| 00:35.08 | bzed | khermans__: indeed. and why they wanna do it without zlib :D |
| 00:35.40 | amimusa | ok, i was running Govinda (http://govinda.amimusa.net) in the location i am now - my parents -. My father contracted Imagenio (TV Cable). Since then the connection worked very bad, packages lost, ... They changed the static IP to a dynamic one without prevent. Then I moved Govinda to other location, my home. Now I am planing change the city, so I need make Govinda work at my parents or it will die until I find other fixed home, tha |
| 00:35.40 | amimusa | t is difficult since i love travel. I am at myparents with nomada (my laptop) to test the connectiob since I have asked for the ISP to give me back the static IP. I set up a sftp server, apache and ssh server. The query is if somebody has 5 minutes to test if it is working propoerly and like that i will take back Govinda here. Thanks in advance. |
| 00:36.03 | Guerin | amimusa: do it yourself |
| 00:36.04 | *** join/#debian NetEcho (i=NetEcho@208.96.79.96) |
| 00:36.30 | amimusa | Guerin: how ? I am inside the network. I want to test it from outside |
| 00:36.42 | *** join/#debian eisen_ (n=eisen@xdsl-81-173-150-230.netcologne.de) |
| 00:36.42 | Guerin | amimusa: you don't have another shell? |
| 00:37.18 | amimusa | yes, but i want a second opinion/test from other place |
| 00:37.19 | *** join/#debian th0ger (i=martint@56345e5b.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 00:37.43 | amimusa | is it asking so much ? |
| 00:38.09 | Guerin | ... |
| 00:38.25 | Guerin | why would it be any different from one place to another? |
| 00:38.31 | Guerin | outside the network is outside the network |
| 00:38.37 | *** join/#debian parsonsd (n=parsonsd@c-68-48-72-225.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:38.39 | amimusa | it has taken time to realise that I can test it from Govinda... lol |
| 00:38.53 | amimusa | other location, country, ... |
| 00:38.59 | amimusa | it would be nice |
| 00:39.12 | Guerin | having a pony would be nice |
| 00:39.22 | khermans__ | bzed, i think his point was that dokg does NOT dpeend zlib, and that is the bug |
| 00:39.26 | dendrite | !prize Guerin |
| 00:39.32 | dendrite | DAng. |
| 00:39.33 | Caelum | find returns 0 even if nothing has been found...how do I change this behavior |
| 00:39.36 | khermans__ | bzed, i would call that a valid bug |
| 00:39.41 | Guerin | i could ride it to the pub, then just climb on when they throw me out and he'd take me right home |
| 00:39.50 | amimusa | oh! Guerin come on !!! we should be here to help each other ... |
| 00:39.53 | *** join/#debian Caldion (n=Sevecem@85.104.57.17) |
| 00:40.01 | *** join/#debian g333k_laptop (n=g333k_la@190.40.104.202) |
| 00:40.13 | bzed | khermans__: well, how does a package depend on another package? by specifying build-depends:.... dpkg does this, but that moron ignores it |
| 00:40.31 | khermans__ | lol |
| 00:40.49 | khermans__ | but maybe he was trying to bootstrap |
| 00:40.57 | *** join/#debian phreqmod (i=phreqmod@sdf-eu.ORG) |
| 00:42.06 | g333k_laptop | offtopic, hello can I install minix in a extended partition? |
| 00:42.13 | streuner | well, if our RM's have such mentality to ignore bugs, why isn't etch stable yet...? ;-) |
| 00:42.22 | karsten | g333k_laptop: #minix |
| 00:42.38 | g333k_laptop | karsten, people seems to be dead there |
| 00:42.40 | amimusa | Guerin: it's funny as a joke, but it's not funny as behaviour. thanks a lot |
| 00:42.41 | khermans__ | streuner, all your devs went to ubuntu dude :-P |
| 00:42.57 | karsten | g333k_laptop: And that's our problem how? |
| 00:43.09 | streuner | khermans__: there are about 1000 DD's ... |
| 00:43.18 | g333k_laptop | karsten, I just asked here just in case... if you dont know just keep quiet |
| 00:43.44 | karsten | g333k_laptop: Bad attitude, dude. |
| 00:43.54 | khermans__ | streuner, quality over quantity |
| 00:43.55 | *** join/#debian tsukasa` (n=tsukasa@p5482c776.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:44.00 | khermans__ | streuner, how many M$ devs :-) |
| 00:44.36 | khermans__ | does freenode support SSL ? |
| 00:44.38 | g333k_laptop | karsten, I think yours |
| 00:44.55 | bzed | !lart g333k_laptop |
| 00:45.09 | g333k_laptop | karsten, I was polite, asking with the off-topic tag |
| 00:45.12 | karsten | khermans__: Interestingly enough, you can sort of work that out from their R&D budget. I did that a few years back, got a cross-check from Steve McConnell (the Code Complete guy). Which ~1999/2000 was that there were probably _more_ devs doing Linux kernel work than WinNT/Win2K OS work. |
| 00:45.15 | streuner | khermans__: yes, check out FAQ from their website |
| 00:45.40 | karsten | g333k_laptop: 1: stow it. 2: I politely pointed out where to go. End topic. |
| 00:45.54 | amimusa | i couldn't imagine something as easy to do is so hard to find ... |
| 00:46.06 | g333k_laptop | lol |
| 00:46.08 | khermans__ | streuner, the FAZ says no |
| 00:46.25 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 00:46.33 | streuner | khermans__: well, #freenode might know better |
| 00:46.34 | bzed | amimusa: you should file a bug against google |
| 00:46.46 | amimusa | maybe i have to go to a friend channel or something like that |
| 00:47.08 | amimusa | sorry bzed? what do you mean ? |
| 00:47.27 | bzed | amimusa: if there's something easy to find but you can't find it, certainly google is broken |
| 00:47.37 | *** join/#debian ruben_ (n=ruben@200-71-172-3.genericrev.telcel.net.ve) |
| 00:47.49 | ruben_ | aqui toi |
| 00:48.15 | amimusa | bzed: i just ask for use my server to test the connection... so easy like that. i only need somebody who wants to cooperate |
| 00:48.39 | amimusa | ruben_: me quieres echar un cable con unas pruebas, por favor ? |
| 00:48.44 | phogg | amimusa: I can't even tell what you;'re asking for help with |
| 00:48.48 | streuner | well, you got your answer, don't whine here |
| 00:49.09 | bzed | amimusa: and if i'd test your server... then your ISP would sue me |
| 00:49.25 | amimusa | connect ftp and transfer some files using an user/pass i can give to one ip i will give too |
| 00:49.29 | phogg | amimusa: what kind of testing could you possibly need? Go to one of the sites that will portscan you. |
| 00:49.45 | abrotman | SHIELDS UP! |
| 00:49.55 | Guerin | phogg: the stupid thing is that he ALREAQDY tested it from one host, but wants a second opinion |
| 00:50.05 | Guerin | sheilds up is *retarded* |
| 00:50.07 | amimusa | connection speed |
| 00:50.26 | Guerin | amimusa: why test things over which you have no control? |
| 00:50.33 | phogg | amimusa: who cares what the speed is? You're going to leave the server there anyway. |
| 00:50.40 | amimusa | since from telefonica change my router it stop working. now i have static ip again, so i want to know if work fine |
| 00:50.53 | asg | abrotman: set phasers to stun? |
| 00:50.56 | phogg | amimusa: the answer is yes. |
| 00:50.57 | abrotman | try efnet ? :) |
| 00:51.01 | phogg | amimusa: thank you, come again |
| 00:51.10 | abrotman | asg: photon torps! |
| 00:51.40 | phogg | asg: lock phasers on target. Ships weapons don't have a stun. |
| 00:51.42 | asg | abrotman: cloaking teledildonics |
| 00:51.42 | bzed | abrotman: http://www.starwreck.com/ |
| 00:51.50 | *** join/#debian pab (n=pab@dsl231-036-052.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:52.20 | abrotman | asg: put your pants on! |
| 00:52.35 | phogg | ah, star wreck. It all went down hill after number five |
| 00:52.36 | asg | abrotman: sorry, was watching Fox News |
| 00:52.45 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:53.00 | *** join/#debian Gwern-away (n=gwern@wikipedia/Gwern) |
| 00:53.48 | asg | Guerin: it'd fall down, my ceiling is too straight |
| 00:53.52 | streuner | Guerin: what did you do the whole day in korea? |
| 00:53.54 | Gwern-away | hi everyone. I recently installed a game packaged as "oolite". it pulled in a bunch of gnustep dependencies, and created ~/gnustep/, which really should be a dot file, I think. anyone know whether this is gnustep or oolite's fault? |
| 00:54.00 | phogg | asg: zing! |
| 00:54.00 | amimusa | the results from here: http://www.nsrch.com/port_result.php doesn't match with the result of the execution of nmap, what i have to trust ? |
| 00:54.15 | streuner | Guerin: no contacts (Debian) at all.. |
| 00:54.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: see .. gnustep does suck! |
| 00:54.20 | Guerin | streuner: eh? |
| 00:54.23 | *** join/#debian cookoo (n=user@c-68-61-112-197.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:54.35 | phogg | amimusa: who performedthe nmap? |
| 00:54.37 | kyevan | Insanity. Debian has a Q2 engine and datafile installer, and there's OpenArena which is based on Quake 3, but no Quake engine? |
| 00:54.59 | streuner | Guerin: 'tolimar' need some people who organizes the Debian presentation at korea |
| 00:55.03 | *** join/#debian sphenxesOne (n=sphenxes@85-125-148-188.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 00:55.04 | abrotman | amimusa: obviously the answer is to attempt to all 65535 possible ports |
| 00:55.07 | streuner | s/at/in/ |
| 00:55.13 | abrotman | to telnet |
| 00:55.15 | Langly1 | ok further with my debian alpha intstall now but getting " Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" while booting from the harddrive now |
| 00:55.30 | bzed | kyevan: q3 is lame anyway. have a look at nexuiz and sauerbraten |
| 00:55.43 | phogg | kyevan: Maybe it's not there now but I believe it as at one point |
| 00:55.50 | phreqmod | Gwern-away, most apps that depend on the Objective-C runtime or GNUstep's libs reate a ~/GNUstep |
| 00:55.56 | streuner | Guerin: i cannot believe that there are NO people in korea who using Debian |
| 00:56.01 | phreqmod | Including Window Maker, etc. |
| 00:56.11 | phogg | bzed: is there a deb for sauerbraten? |
| 00:56.24 | Guerin | streuner: there are, plenty |
| 00:56.28 | streuner | hm |
| 00:56.31 | bzed | !info sauerbraten |
| 00:56.33 | dpkg | sauerbraten: (3D first person game engine), section contrib/games, is extra. Version: 0.0.20061204.dfsg-1 (sid), Packaged size: 397 kB, Installed size: 940 kB |
| 00:56.35 | bzed | phogg: ^^ |
| 00:56.38 | streuner | Guerin: do you have a adress or something? |
| 00:56.40 | cookoo | whats is a good sound server program for a small home network |
| 00:56.43 | Guerin | streuner: they're practically all computer scientists - sanxiyn is one |
| 00:56.51 | asg | cookoo: a radio? |
| 00:56.55 | streuner | !seen sanxiyn |
| 00:56.56 | dpkg | sanxiyn <n=tinuviel@211.104.100.240> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 110d 21h 48m 50s ago, saying: 'Guerin: Ok, getting too OT.'. |
| 00:56.58 | Guerin | streuner: for some debian users in korea? |
| 00:57.13 | phogg | bzed: I think I need to apt-get update |
| 00:57.33 | bzed | phogg: or include unstable ;) nexuiz is in there, too |
| 00:57.34 | Gwern-away | phreqmod: most? guess there's no point in a bug report then |
| 00:57.45 | phogg | bzed: nexuiz I saw, the other was missing. |
| 00:57.50 | streuner | Guerin: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00072.html |
| 00:57.52 | amimusa | Guerin: I am very sorry about you ... your way is too poor. it is much better try to give a hand than just try to ... maybe you are very very clever ... good to you friend |
| 00:58.00 | BUMBACL0T | Warning: Your PHP is configured to limit the memory to 8Mb (memory_limit parameter in php.ini). You should raise this limit to at least 16MB for proper Gallery operation. |
| 00:58.09 | Guerin | amimusa: no, i'm just lazy and don't like doing pointless shit |
| 00:58.09 | BUMBACL0T | where is php.ini located? |
| 00:58.13 | phreqmod | Gwern-away, no, it's by design. |
| 00:58.15 | asg | BUMBACL0T: /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 00:58.17 | Guerin | BUMBACL0T: in `man find' |
| 00:58.36 | kyevan | bzed: Sauer is neat, but HORRID SLOW |
| 00:58.43 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:58.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:58.43 | phogg | amimusa: if you did nmap locally the result will be different (and mostly unimportant) |
| 00:58.44 | kyevan | nexuiz, I dunno |
| 00:58.49 | abrotman | streuner: he's on OFTC now i think |
| 00:58.53 | bzed | kyevan: it's damn fast for me |
| 00:58.53 | BUMBACL0T | Guerin, man fsck |
| 00:58.54 | BUMBACL0T | you |
| 00:58.55 | amimusa | phogg: i executed nmap <mylocalip> and only three ports are opened, from http://www.nsrch.com/port_result.php there a lot ... |
| 00:59.05 | kyevan | bzed: What kinda graphics do you have? |
| 00:59.05 | Guerin | BUMBACL0T: i'm not a filesystem, so that won't work |
| 00:59.06 | asg | BUMBACL0T: find(1) would have solved the problem |
| 00:59.07 | abrotman | BUMBACL0T: don't be an ass .. he told you how to find it |
| 00:59.16 | kyevan | NOT a shity ati onboard, I'm guessing |
| 00:59.17 | kyevan | ? |
| 00:59.23 | bzed | kyevan: it eats ressources like hell, though. I have an nvidia 7800 or somethine like that. |
| 00:59.30 | amimusa | ok, so i have to pay more attention in the result from http://www.nsrch.com/port_result.php |
| 00:59.35 | kyevan | bzed: Right. I don't. |
| 00:59.37 | streuner | abrotman: dpkg is in #debian (OFTC) too.. |
| 00:59.46 | phogg | amimusa: your results will be different locally. The results from a remote host are more relevant. |
| 00:59.50 | abrotman | streuner: different bots .. same DB .. dunno how last is handled |
| 00:59.53 | abrotman | or rather .. seen |
| 01:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 715] by debhelper |
| 01:00.01 | BUMBACL0T | abrotman, i didn't ask HOW to find it, i asked WHERE its located. |
| 01:00.05 | bzed | kyevan: yeah, you need something liek that for it. they'll create an RPG based on that engine :D |
| 01:00.06 | streuner | the same bot, the same db |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | BUMBACL0T: don't be lazy |
| 01:00.15 | Guerin | BUMBACL0T: which is why you got such a terse response |
| 01:00.22 | amimusa | thanks phogg |
| 01:00.34 | abrotman | streuner: maybe he's just in -devel ? |
| 01:00.39 | Guerin | amimusa: did you no0t already test it from a remote host? |
| 01:00.41 | kyevan | bzed: Right. OpenArena runs nicely. Hell, UT2k4 runs nicely, though that's propri. |
| 01:00.46 | phogg | BUMBACL0T: is it a config file? Yes. So it's under /etc/! find /etc/ -iname php.ini |
| 01:00.50 | abrotman | or not |
| 01:00.56 | streuner | abrotman: no |
| 01:00.58 | bzed | BUMBACL0T: not to forget that you don't want to change yoiur general php memory limit usually, but just do it for the virtual server the gallery is runnign in |
| 01:01.04 | abrotman | streuner: ask nickserv |
| 01:01.11 | Guerin | streuner: if you want to contact him, i think he's @gmail |
| 01:01.11 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-167-127-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:01.21 | kyevan | bzed: Sauer is just slow and not able to scale. |
| 01:01.29 | Guerin | but he doesn't live in seoul - he's at skool in Daejeon (4 hours) |
| 01:01.33 | BUMBACL0T | bzed, what are you talkin about? gallery and stuff? |
| 01:01.34 | phogg | BUMBACL0T: if you think I remember where things are you;'re crazy. Real men remember how to look things up quickly, not where all files are located. |
| 01:01.46 | Guerin | i've never actually met the guy, despite living less than 20km from him for a year |
| 01:01.47 | bzed | BUMBACL0T: i'm talkign about your goddamn error |
| 01:01.55 | asg | BUMBACL0T: you've been told where it's at .. now, run along |
| 01:02.11 | abrotman | bzed: he'll never understand what you're saying :) |
| 01:02.18 | BUMBACL0T | bzed, how did you know i was messin with gallery? |
| 01:02.32 | abrotman | <BUMBACL0T> Warning: Your PHP is configured to limit the memory to 8Mb (memory_limit parameter in php.ini). You should raise this limit to at least 16MB for proper Gallery operation. |
| 01:02.34 | bzed | BUMBACL0T: because I'm not blinddumb |
| 01:02.46 | phreqmod | (and GNUstep rules btw) |
| 01:02.48 | BUMBACL0T | oh shit |
| 01:02.49 | BUMBACL0T | lol |
| 01:02.51 | amimusa | Guerin: I upload 48Mb through sftp and i guess it's ok.... I am sorry if i am so stupid because i to test the best I can ... oh! it's true it is a very hard petition ... |
| 01:02.52 | asg | !bzed++ |
| 01:03.09 | BUMBACL0T | !asg++ |
| 01:03.15 | amimusa | i would like to test, i mean, sorry |
| 01:03.27 | Guerin | amimusa: i don't think you're stupid, i just think what you're doing is futile, and your time would be better spent sitting down with a beer. |
| 01:03.33 | Guerin | as mine is |
| 01:03.55 | Guerin | asg: does karma from retards count? |
| 01:04.07 | asg | !asg-- |
| 01:04.08 | Guerin | asg: i suppose it must, otherwise i'd have to lose all of mine too |
| 01:04.24 | asg | Guerin: 20:04 <dpkg> please don't karma yourself |
| 01:04.25 | Guerin | i don't think you can modify your own |
| 01:04.29 | Guerin | right |
| 01:04.32 | bzed | BUMBACL0T: you want to use php_flag memory_limit 30M in your apache configuration |
| 01:04.35 | streuner | 'dpkg aren't care about '--' |
| 01:04.40 | asg | Guerin: I'd think modding down should be legal though |
| 01:04.41 | bzed | !asg-- |
| 01:04.43 | amimusa | hahaha Guerin, yes maybe once i've test i am wating my time |
| 01:04.46 | bzed | :P |
| 01:04.48 | phogg | Guerin: retard karma is the best kind. |
| 01:04.49 | asg | bzed: danka |
| 01:04.50 | amimusa | wasting |
| 01:05.04 | amimusa | wateing |
| 01:05.04 | amimusa | wasteing |
| 01:05.07 | streuner | bzed: dpkg only notice ++ |
| 01:05.11 | amimusa | shit, whatever |
| 01:05.17 | asg | streuner: no, I got that message on -- |
| 01:05.20 | phogg | like the innocent child, the retard gives karma unconditionally. |
| 01:05.22 | amimusa | orange juice, please :) |
| 01:05.29 | streuner | asg: heh, a new feature? |
| 01:05.34 | asg | streuner: so it would seem |
| 01:05.36 | Guerin | amimusa: three virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, hubris |
| 01:05.45 | phogg | in that order? |
| 01:05.47 | asg | -- Larry Wall |
| 01:05.47 | Guerin | amimusa: these apply quite cleanly to many other things |
| 01:05.50 | Guerin | yes |
| 01:05.50 | kyevan | phogg: Also, hugs. Or maybe that's just Nikki. |
| 01:06.07 | bzed | Guerin: you're missing pizza and noddles |
| 01:06.15 | Kevin` | what's a good, easy to configure, powerful, mailserver |
| 01:06.22 | Guerin | bzed: they're not virtues, they're resources |
| 01:06.22 | asg | Kevin`: exim |
| 01:06.24 | phogg | Kevin`: postfix or exim |
| 01:06.24 | abrotman | postfix or exim |
| 01:06.31 | Guerin | not qmail |
| 01:06.32 | Kevin` | diff postfix exim |
| 01:06.36 | phogg | not sendmail |
| 01:06.40 | streuner | Guerin: its almost not possible that this fish is eaten yet ;-) |
| 01:06.41 | abrotman | not exchange |
| 01:06.43 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:06.43 | Guerin | Kevin`: one is postfix, one is exim |
| 01:06.45 | phogg | I think all bases are now covered |
| 01:06.46 | amimusa | i can't find hubris at the dictionary |
| 01:06.46 | Kevin` | Heh |
| 01:06.59 | abrotman | amimusa: dictionary.com |
| 01:06.59 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 01:06.59 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 01:07.00 | kyevan | Sendmail! |
| 01:07.04 | Guerin | amimusa: `extreme pride and overconfidence' |
| 01:07.16 | kyevan | Sendmail should be rewritten in APL |
| 01:07.19 | phogg | Kevin`: different strokes for different folks and usage scenarios. 99% of the time either is fine. |
| 01:07.25 | amphi | amimusa: install dictd and some dictionaries |
| 01:07.39 | asg | or at least the dict client |
| 01:07.42 | amphi | amimusa: dict-devil is well worth having |
| 01:07.43 | Kevin` | phogg well, what are the differences? |
| 01:07.52 | bzed | Guerin: damnit. well then. lust and pizzaffection? |
| 01:08.01 | Guerin | bzed: seems fair. |
| 01:08.30 | phogg | Kevin`: functionally? Not much. Configuration-wise some people like one more than another. I let my choice be guided by what other software has to work with it on the server. |
| 01:08.33 | streuner | haha 'Pizza Nazi' |
| 01:08.38 | *** join/#debian vrkhans (n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:08.47 | stew | pizza godwin! |
| 01:08.53 | asg | pizza FTW |
| 01:08.56 | vrkhans | hi |
| 01:08.56 | Guerin | my second or third job ever was making pizza for an italian guy who said `you have to treat the dough like you treat the woman - soft, but firm' |
| 01:09.00 | bzed | !pizza++ |
| 01:09.02 | phogg | !pizza++ |
| 01:09.10 | phogg | bzed: you win this round |
| 01:09.15 | asg | Guerin: so, rub it and slap it in the ass? |
| 01:09.21 | vrkhans | does any one know how to use mutt and fetch mail and proc mail |
| 01:09.26 | Kevin` | phogg pine, cat, pop3/imap, squirrelmail |
| 01:09.29 | Guerin | so i'm one o' these folks who puts three things on a pizza, and those things musn't include pineapple |
| 01:09.38 | *** join/#debian znoG (n=gs@OL132-95.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 01:09.38 | asg | Guerin: agreed |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | dead animals! |
| 01:09.43 | vrkhans | I just install it but dont know who to use it |
| 01:09.44 | phogg | Kevin`: ? |
| 01:09.45 | Guerin | asg: no wonder mrs. asg drinks so much :) |
| 01:09.51 | Kevin` | phogg programs it has to work with :) |
| 01:09.55 | abrotman | vrkhans: they all have extensive documentation |
| 01:09.56 | asg | Guerin: she's a much better cook than I |
| 01:10.08 | Guerin | i'm a far superior cook to my wife |
| 01:10.16 | Guerin | she's a far better cleaner :) |
| 01:10.25 | vrkhans | abrotman: i know but i am little lazy :-) |
| 01:10.27 | asg | Guerin: the things i do make are quite good; I just don't make many things |
| 01:10.29 | bzed | depends all on proper coding |
| 01:10.37 | abrotman | vrkhans: i have tons of docs here .. but i don't feel like reading htem |
| 01:10.38 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:10.42 | *** join/#debian jack_wyt (n=jack@218.18.191.92) |
| 01:10.51 | vrkhans | same here |
| 01:10.57 | Guerin | asg: of course, my wife also earns twice what I do ;) |
| 01:11.01 | amimusa | Puerto 1243/tcp () Puerto Seguro troyano |
| 01:11.04 | phogg | Kevin`: less pine and cat. They don't mater. The pop and imap servers mostly don't matter either |
| 01:11.07 | streuner | oh |
| 01:11.10 | Guerin | so i think it's fair that she be able to slack off of an evening |
| 01:11.14 | bzed | vrkhans: getmail > fetchmail; google getmailrc. |
| 01:11.16 | vrkhans | abrotman: just came back from school not feeling like reading atall |
| 01:11.18 | amimusa | I can't understand why it says secure port, and then troyano :s |
| 01:11.25 | asg | Guerin: vice versa here. Doesn't matter, we just throw it all in a big pile. |
| 01:11.32 | Guerin | asg: yeh, same. |
| 01:11.34 | Kevin` | phogg so your saying anything will work well enough? |
| 01:11.36 | bzed | vrkhans: man procmailrc |
| 01:11.37 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphye@70.90.148.5) |
| 01:11.39 | asg | Guerin: much easier that way |
| 01:11.50 | streuner | Guerin: what is her job, btw? |
| 01:11.59 | phogg | Kevin`: you'd have to have very specific or vast requirements for the choice to matter. |
| 01:12.02 | Guerin | what's yours is mine, what's mine is ... mine! |
| 01:12.15 | *** join/#debian darkapostrophe (n=darkapos@217-33-244.231210.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 01:12.25 | abrotman | vrkhans: i coded in the world's worst language all day :) |
| 01:12.26 | dan2 | asg! |
| 01:12.27 | asg | Guerin: minus my beer tab and occasional expenditure on books and hardware |
| 01:12.29 | streuner | sure, but what is her job? |
| 01:12.30 | abrotman | ok .. not all day |
| 01:12.31 | *** join/#debian BabyBee (n=14116530@218.69.190.113) |
| 01:12.31 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 01:12.35 | dan2 | asg: :) |
| 01:12.43 | karsten | streuner: Keeping Guerin in line. |
| 01:12.52 | streuner | sure |
| 01:12.54 | karsten | streuner: Obviously, she's slacking. |
| 01:12.56 | Guerin | streuner: she works in international transfers at the bank of New Zealand, and will find out tomorrow whether she gets a flash new job as a risk analyst in the fraud department |
| 01:13.05 | Guerin | at which point she'll earn three times what I do |
| 01:13.11 | asg | capital! |
| 01:13.28 | *** join/#debian Bsew64 (n=chatzill@66.229.213.214) |
| 01:13.30 | streuner | its getting worser and worser for you self-conviedance? |
| 01:13.35 | *** join/#debian helfrez (n=helfrez@166-82-112-51.quickclick.ctc.net) |
| 01:13.35 | phogg | is there a dpkg command for whena bad joke is told? |
| 01:13.46 | asg | phogg: smite <foo> |
| 01:13.52 | asg | !groan at phogg |
| 01:13.54 | streuner | Guerin: that's capitalsm |
| 01:13.54 | phogg | asg: too generic. |
| 01:13.55 | Guerin | streuner: nah, i'm working less than half-time doing masters |
| 01:14.02 | amimusa | Puerto 3127/tcp () Puerto Seguro Virus MyDoom-Wurm, even more .... secure port and one virus ?¿?¿ that means i have one virus ?¿ sorry but i don't understand so much about scan ports.. it's first time i do this check |
| 01:14.03 | Guerin | so it's reasonable |
| 01:14.05 | asg | phogg: then create a groan factoid |
| 01:14.12 | phogg | asg: I may |
| 01:14.20 | asg | !burninate phogg |
| 01:14.21 | parsonsd | Guerin : well, good luck to being left behind in the financial war of the sexes |
| 01:14.33 | phogg | ahah. Awesome. |
| 01:14.37 | Guerin | parsonsd: there's a war on? |
| 01:14.37 | dan2 | asg: what do you think of this hot weather out? |
| 01:14.41 | asg | !factinfo burninate |
| 01:14.42 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as burninate, asg |
| 01:14.48 | parsonsd | Guerin : that's what i'm told.... |
| 01:14.52 | dan2 | asg: it was 82 degrees here today... it should have been mid 30s |
| 01:15.05 | asg | dan2: nice in the late evening; balmy at work since they still have the heat on |
| 01:15.08 | parsonsd | Guerin : my wife & i fight over who's doing more.... |
| 01:15.15 | dan2 | asg: ouch |
| 01:15.21 | Guerin | parsonsd: you have my condolences |
| 01:15.22 | parsonsd | Guerin : speaking of which...i'd better run to get the dishes first.. :) |
| 01:15.28 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:15.38 | streuner | true |
| 01:15.55 | streuner | at the end its important who get the most money at home... |
| 01:15.57 | parsonsd | Guerin (thats okay, sort of.... we seem to be competing for #1) :-/ |
| 01:16.25 | *** join/#debian jipi (n=jipi@mnc08.mei.co.jp) |
| 01:16.26 | *** join/#debian mezmiro (n=mezmiro@c-67-185-19-174.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 01:16.26 | amimusa | i have made a scan port using this site: http://www.nsrch.com/port_result.php and i get messages about troyans and woms asiciate to some port, that are marked as secure. what that means ? please. thanks in advance. |
| 01:16.26 | Guerin | streuner: why? |
| 01:16.50 | streuner | every action has its consequences... |
| 01:17.01 | streuner | and the group-dynamic is so... |
| 01:17.02 | Guerin | streuner: ... |
| 01:17.06 | *** join/#debian orkid (n=orkid@bas1-barrie18-1242376371.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:17.18 | karsten | streuner: to every action is an equal and opposite consequence? |
| 01:17.37 | karsten | amimusa: troyans? |
| 01:17.52 | amimusa | yes .. it's strange |
| 01:18.15 | amimusa | Trojans if you want :p |
| 01:18.16 | Guerin | i think he means `trojans' |
| 01:18.19 | mezmiro | So, I'm having some odd issues with alsa. I always need to run alsaconf every time I run seperate programs which utilize audio, otherwise the audio stream never plays. |
| 01:18.25 | *** join/#debian dvs (n=cwv@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:18.28 | karsten | Guerin: Ah... |
| 01:18.49 | amimusa | that means that those ports are use from trojans attacks ? |
| 01:18.49 | karsten | Guerin: Y'mean like this: http://www.shoutfile.com/v/v3einrdT/Chasers_Trojan_Horse |
| 01:18.51 | mezmiro | So the sound on VLC will work one minute, the second I run Xine I need to do an alsaconf and then the sound on Xine will work...but the sound on VLC won't work :/ |
| 01:19.01 | mezmiro | Any ideas? |
| 01:19.11 | amimusa | karsten: i am spanish ... |
| 01:19.18 | BUMBACL0T | You must have the MySQL PHP module installed |
| 01:19.19 | amimusa | trojan = troyano |
| 01:19.26 | *** join/#debian AbasCatus (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 01:19.26 | BUMBACL0T | i have php4 and which one do i need/ |
| 01:19.28 | BUMBACL0T | ? |
| 01:19.29 | karsten | amimusa: No good. I've known too many Spaniards. |
| 01:19.37 | Guerin | karsten: no flash, but this caught my eye: http://www.shoutfile.com/v/zgZqRSzi/Chicks_With_Beer_Lots_Of_Beer |
| 01:19.39 | BUMBACL0T | i mean which myswl ph |
| 01:19.42 | BUMBACL0T | php |
| 01:19.43 | BUMBACL0T | * |
| 01:19.51 | karsten | Guerin: I'm sure it did. |
| 01:20.03 | amimusa | for me , all are the same ... particles from the universe |
| 01:20.17 | amimusa | it's so stupid we argue ... |
| 01:20.35 | amimusa | don't talk about wars, ... |
| 01:20.57 | karsten | amimusa: You're right. |
| 01:21.05 | karsten | amimusa: Arguing is for people who can't ... |
| 01:21.08 | karsten | .... reach agreement. |
| 01:21.11 | vrkhans | aborotman: whic is that |
| 01:21.29 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 01:21.41 | vrkhans | worst language |
| 01:22.13 | *** join/#debian anarcat (n=anarcat@pdpc/supporter/active/anarcat) |
| 01:22.18 | anarcat | people here know about swatch? |
| 01:22.33 | karsten | !tell anarcat about ask |
| 01:22.41 | dan2 | asg: you been doing good? |
| 01:22.54 | anarcat | is there any good log watching software around that can fire a custom command upon detection of certain patterns in logfiles? |
| 01:23.13 | anarcat | "people here know about swatch?" is a question, no? :) |
| 01:23.13 | amimusa | i paste the result of the scanning here: http://rafb.net/p/KTkfMC26.html, that means i have all these ports opened,... I can't belive that, since I am behind one router where i just opened 115 22 and 80. can somebody explain me that, please ?¿ |
| 01:23.28 | anarcat | i have tried swatch, but it ... well.. it sucks |
| 01:23.30 | abrotman | do people in here know about swatch ? |
| 01:23.36 | amimusa | i feel confused |
| 01:23.51 | amimusa | no abrotman, what is that ? |
| 01:24.08 | anarcat | er |
| 01:24.16 | Guerin | swatch = toys |
| 01:24.25 | abrotman | anarcat: you mean swatch internet time/beat ? |
| 01:24.29 | anarcat | ok, swatch is a log monitoring software that can execute custom actions based on certain patterns in logfiles |
| 01:24.37 | anarcat | sorry i didn't ask my question properly |
| 01:24.43 | Guerin | i have a seiko, it gains a minute or so every few months but is otherwise utterly rock-solid |
| 01:24.47 | anarcat | i'm looking for a replacement for swatch because it's not working properly |
| 01:24.49 | streuner | like nagios? |
| 01:24.49 | Guerin | needs no batteries |
| 01:24.50 | bzed | amimusa: I know nothing about that language, but Puerto Seguro doesn't sound liek open |
| 01:24.55 | karsten | The short answer to your question is "yes". |
| 01:25.00 | Guerin | is waterproof to 5 bar |
| 01:25.02 | amimusa | secure port, sorry |
| 01:25.03 | Guerin | etc. |
| 01:25.04 | anarcat | karsten: thank you :) |
| 01:25.10 | karsten | anarcat: The question is: what do *you* want to know about swatch? |
| 01:25.10 | amimusa | puerto = port, seguro = secure |
| 01:25.16 | anarcat | sorry for the wrong evil question |
| 01:25.23 | karsten | Guerin: My favorite swatch quote. |
| 01:25.30 | bzed | amimusa: now where's the problem |
| 01:25.30 | streuner | !nagios |
| 01:25.32 | anarcat | let me ask the question properly again |
| 01:25.33 | anarcat | is there any good log watching software around that can fire a custom command upon detection of certain patterns in logfiles? |
| 01:25.43 | asg | dan2: yeah, pretty good. Been busy, but that's nothing new. Yourself? |
| 01:25.48 | karsten | Guerin: ... from many moons ago, grilf, who had one. Ticked loudly. Crashed out on my dorm floor w/ another friend. |
| 01:25.55 | karsten | Guerin: "If you don't like it, take it off" |
| 01:26.04 | karsten | Guerin: ... Mike and I leered at each other.... |
| 01:26.13 | bzed | what do you exactly want to monitor? |
| 01:26.26 | streuner | dpkg, nagios is <reply> Nagios is a popular open source computer system and network monitoring application software. It watches hosts and services that you specify, alerting you when things go bad and again when they get better. |
| 01:26.26 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 01:26.41 | amimusa | this port scaning detect a lot of ports, some of them says secure port but trojan or worm beside. i only forwarded 80 22 and 115 to the compuer, so i don't understand why the scanner says something about these ports |
| 01:26.51 | anarcat | bzed: i'm looking for segfault warnings in apache/error.log |
| 01:26.51 | karsten | anarcat: swatch is one of a set of system monitoring tools. Nagios, swatch, debian-security (or similar) stuff, etc. Nagios is more remote stuff. |
| 01:26.52 | Guerin | karsten: hah |
| 01:26.57 | Guerin | awright |
| 01:27.03 | anarcat | karsten: i know about nagios |
| 01:27.06 | bzed | anarcat: oh, so I'm not the only one with that issue |
| 01:27.11 | *** join/#debian dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 01:27.16 | *** join/#debian _kaiser_ (n=kaiser@74-131-118-200.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 01:27.22 | amimusa | the important question is, should I try to take care about these ports in some way ? |
| 01:27.22 | anarcat | the problem with nagios is that it might confuse an overloaded server with a crashed one |
| 01:27.26 | bzed | amimusa: port secure != whatever detected |
| 01:27.27 | BUMBACL0T | !mysql |
| 01:27.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mysql is A fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It supports a wide range of advanced functionality such as views, transaction support, recovery functionality etc. It is the worlds most popular open source database. The database is packed as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Futher information can be found at http://mysql.com and #mysql. |
| 01:27.35 | karsten | anarcat: The general problems are 1. configuration for any non-trivial setup is a bitch and 2: false positives. |
| 01:27.45 | bzed | !tel BUMBACL0T abotu self-tell |
| 01:27.50 | bzed | !tell BUMBACL0T abotu self-tell |
| 01:27.59 | Ronin | heh |
| 01:27.59 | bzed | !tell BUMBACL0T abotu selftell |
| 01:28.01 | bzed | damnit! |
| 01:28.02 | karsten | anarcat: Isn't an overloaded server already confused? |
| 01:28.05 | anarcat | karsten: we have nagios deployed on a few servers, and i figured out the configuration, but as far as i understand, it doesn't do logfile monitoring |
| 01:28.09 | karsten | !tell bzed about typso |
| 01:28.14 | anarcat | karsten: yes, it is... that's beside the point :) |
| 01:28.15 | Ronin | bzed: nice to see my typing skills are rubbing off on you |
| 01:28.26 | karsten | anarcat: Not without explicit plugins for same, no. |
| 01:28.26 | asg | !tell karsten about daily meds |
| 01:28.28 | *** join/#debian AbasCatus (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 01:28.44 | anarcat | karsten: i don't know of any logfile monitoring plugin for nagios |
| 01:28.50 | karsten | anarcat: however a log server and/or something like splunk might be of some use. |
| 01:28.54 | anarcat | ah! |
| 01:28.54 | bzed | anarcat: do you ahve those crashes since apache2.3 and only on requestts via the aol proxy? |
| 01:28.55 | streuner | Guerin: have fun |
| 01:28.57 | anarcat | splunk, there's that... |
| 01:29.00 | kyevan | Well crap. |
| 01:29.00 | asg | anarcat: we use sec to inject events into nagios |
| 01:29.02 | anarcat | bzed: no :) |
| 01:29.04 | amimusa | maybe the scan port just tell about for what these ports are used, but not that I have opened ... ?¿ |
| 01:29.10 | amimusa | or what ?¿ |
| 01:29.10 | karsten | anarcat: Nore do I, but one could be written fairly trivially. |
| 01:29.25 | anarcat | asg: interesting |
| 01:29.28 | karsten | kyevan: Is well crap holey shit? |
| 01:29.28 | anarcat | asg: what is sec? |
| 01:29.34 | bzed | anarcat: so you want to block those IPs who crash the apache childs? |
| 01:29.39 | kyevan | Sauer died when I tried to quit |
| 01:29.40 | anarcat | bzed: no |
| 01:29.56 | kyevan | and died nicely, too, I couldn't even c-a-fn out to a terminal |
| 01:30.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 721] by debhelper |
| 01:30.06 | kyevan | so I sshed in from my mac and killed it... |
| 01:30.06 | anarcat | bzed: i think our problem is due to a bug in xcache... so it's not the clients fault |
| 01:30.06 | asg | anarcat: one of the more interesting correlation tools available; apt-cache show sec |
| 01:30.14 | kyevan | it didn't reset my x11 res |
| 01:30.29 | kyevan | So, um, can I/how do I change it while it's running? :P |
| 01:32.10 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 01:32.11 | bzed | anarcat: hmm. I'm not sure where the bug is, but I'm using caches on that site, too, so probably it could be the cache problem. but for me it only happens on requests from the aol proxies, which confuses me a bit. having grsec in the kernel is a good way to get the IP although that apache child doesn;t log anythign anymore |
| 01:32.11 | karsten | asg: Any good docs on that? |
| 01:32.11 | anarcat | asg: will look into it, thanks |
| 01:32.11 | *** join/#debian Xorm (n=ADD@adsl-76-201-142-50.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:32.12 | anarcat | asg: best suggestion so far! ;) |
| 01:32.12 | amimusa | i have one great video to share, anybody want to take it ? |
| 01:32.21 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 01:32.31 | asg | karsten: there's a great set of howtos written buy a FreeBSD developer; can't remember the name or url offhand but google should find it. You'll know it by the formatting; same as the FreeBSD online handbook. |
| 01:32.39 | asg | anarcat: you're welcome |
| 01:32.41 | *** join/#debian Josiah (n=Owner@208.115.232.220) |
| 01:33.13 | amimusa | bzed: don't understand, sorry |
| 01:33.20 | karsten | asg: Danke |
| 01:33.36 | *** join/#debian jrollins (n=Metaltro@66-233-228-40.red.clearwire-dns.net) |
| 01:33.38 | asg | karsten: http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/SEC-examples/article.html |
| 01:33.38 | bzed | amimusa: this is #debian and not #who wants to J*** on my video |
| 01:33.45 | anarcat | ok now, sec is cool :) |
| 01:34.05 | kyevan | WELL FUCK |
| 01:34.13 | karsten | asg: Thanks, already googled it. |
| 01:34.15 | amimusa | ah! ok... just to motivate people test the server/connection lol |
| 01:34.16 | asg | karsten: :) |
| 01:34.20 | streuner | oh, what a evil Word :-) |
| 01:34.22 | kyevan | Now my debian box has decided I don't have a keyboard |
| 01:34.25 | abrotman | amimusa: don't you have anything better to do ? |
| 01:34.28 | karsten | kyevan: Trust us, we don't need encouragement. |
| 01:34.30 | abrotman | kyevan: you're typing just fine |
| 01:34.34 | bzed | kyevan: sounds liek a hardware issue |
| 01:34.35 | asg | karsten: forgot the link myself so had to do the same for future bookmarking |
| 01:34.39 | kyevan | abrotman: I KNOW :P |
| 01:34.40 | karsten | kyevan: modprobe espcons |
| 01:34.43 | kyevan | Er, oopss |
| 01:34.45 | kyevan | capslock |
| 01:34.49 | karsten | kyevan: ... and think good thoughts. |
| 01:35.04 | kyevan | abrotman: Anyway, SSH is a nice tool :P |
| 01:35.10 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:35.10 | bzed | kyevan: probably running sauer found some heat issue |
| 01:35.31 | amimusa | yes, i would like to know about: http://rafb.net/p/KTkfMC26.html what i need to do with this.. and what tha means |
| 01:35.32 | kyevan | bzed: I doubt it |
| 01:35.41 | dan2 | asg: well I'm designing a brand new video streaming application... like nothing you've seen before :) |
| 01:35.51 | abrotman | will it work ? |
| 01:35.58 | bzed | amimusa: again: this is #debian and not #helpforlife. and it jsut looks fine |
| 01:36.00 | vrkhans | can any one help me in cofiguring the mutt fetchmail and procmail |
| 01:36.01 | phreqmod | amimusa, paste the URL, I'll wget it if it makes you happier... can't promise to see it now though |
| 01:36.02 | kyevan | I've run marathon HL2 sessions in windows with tons of background crap on this box |
| 01:36.19 | phreqmod | amimusa, msg me the URL privately, probably beter |
| 01:36.19 | bzed | vrkhans: use getmail, google getmailrc, read man procmailrc |
| 01:36.25 | phreqmod | before you get lynched |
| 01:36.46 | vrkhans | bzed: what is getmail |
| 01:36.50 | abrotman | phreqmod: why? |
| 01:36.53 | asg | dan2: sweet |
| 01:36.58 | *** join/#debian rpedro_ (n=rpedro@89-180-132-238.net.novis.pt) |
| 01:36.58 | bzed | !tell vrkhans about apt-cache |
| 01:36.58 | abrotman | phreqmod: you're just supporting that idiotic behavior |
| 01:37.04 | amimusa | why there are messages about trojans worms and virus ? there just information about these pots are used to these purpose ?¿ |
| 01:37.19 | kyevan | karsten: module espcons not found |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | phreqmod: see |
| 01:37.25 | phreqmod | abrotman, I have my reasons, call it iberian solidarity or something :P |
| 01:37.51 | abrotman | phreqmod: please post it on slashdot or something useful |
| 01:37.51 | *** join/#debian batrick (i=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 01:37.51 | phreqmod | Anyway, it will at least clear the channel |
| 01:37.52 | bzed | kyevan: which graphics card are you using? |
| 01:37.56 | karsten | kyevan: Damnit! I forgot to code it *again*. |
| 01:37.56 | phreqmod | Which is good |
| 01:38.03 | abrotman | or call ops on the idiot :) |
| 01:38.06 | vrkhans | bzed: what apt-cache do |
| 01:38.11 | kyevan | bzed ATI Radion XPRESS 200 onboard crap |
| 01:38.30 | kyevan | karsten: wait, you mean you were just messing with me? |
| 01:38.33 | kyevan | Don't |
| 01:38.53 | *** join/#debian toad_ (n=toad@pdpc/supporter/student/toad-with-underline) |
| 01:38.55 | bzed | kyevan: ouch, probably the debian driver just uses more from that hardware than windows does :P well.. no clue :) I'd still guess a driver or hardware issue |
| 01:38.59 | *** part/#debian toad_ (n=toad@pdpc/supporter/student/toad-with-underline) |
| 01:39.05 | amimusa | i am very happy to all the people in this channel who has born with all the knowledge in their min, they never need ask for nothing ... what envi !!! |
| 01:39.06 | bzed | vrkhans: read what dpkg told ya |
| 01:39.27 | *** join/#debian dolmans (n=simon@219.142.192.187) |
| 01:39.28 | abrotman | !tell amimusa about es |
| 01:39.34 | kyevan | bzed: But how would that kill my KEYBOARD? |
| 01:39.38 | dan2 | asg: I've also adopted the "Anti-Why" policy |
| 01:39.38 | bzed | amimusa: again: your probalem is NOT a debian related problem. |
| 01:39.51 | amimusa | maybe /netwoking ? |
| 01:39.52 | asg | dan2: anti-why? |
| 01:40.29 | karsten | dan2: Porquois? |
| 01:40.35 | bzed | kyevan: I guess the controllers are connected to the same piece of southbridge/northbridge hardware, you you're just having a dying kernel, or broken memory modules |
| 01:40.40 | phreqmod | amimusa, listen to them dude... this is a Debian support channel (mostly, at least), general questions like network speed or latency are hard to track and can clog the channel with lenghty discussions that lead nowere. |
| 01:40.54 | kyevan | But then I ssh in nand it's fine... |
| 01:40.57 | dan2 | asg: The saying about there is no such thing as a dumb question is dead wrong. There is only one dumb question and it begins with why. Therefore, when every someone askes "Why.." I will give an even dumber answer: "Dan Weber is supreme dictator of the universe" |
| 01:41.04 | phreqmod | Sorry for the spelling back there. |
| 01:41.07 | kyevan | Actually, wait |
| 01:41.09 | bzed | amimusa: yes, #networking for example, if there's such a chan |
| 01:41.20 | amimusa | ok, thanks and sorry |
| 01:41.23 | *** part/#debian vrkhans (n=hkhan@cpe-65-185-119-90.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:41.33 | amimusa | for the inconveniences |
| 01:41.35 | asg | dan2: good way to make friends ... sounds like an episode of Scrubs :) |
| 01:41.35 | kyevan | Graphics is built into the mobo chipset on this, I think... |
| 01:41.35 | Dewi | dan2: there are lots of stupid questions |
| 01:41.40 | *** part/#debian amimusa (n=manou@156.Red-80-35-87.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:41.50 | karsten | dan2: Dude, that's just plain dumb. There's plenty of smart "why" questions. There are also plenty of dumb questions. RTFM, GFGI, etc., are fully appropriate responses to the latter. |
| 01:41.58 | Dewi | dan2: another one is "Why are books always excited?" |
| 01:42.17 | bzed | kyevan: I'd reboot it and have a look for kernel panic logs in the syslog |
| 01:42.38 | Dewi | dan2: Why do people have electric hair? |
| 01:42.38 | bzed | kyevan: running memtest86+ could be good, too, or just update your kernel and x |
| 01:42.39 | kyevan | Why are decent graphics cards (read: cards not part of the mobo :P) so freaking expensive> |
| 01:42.50 | kyevan | bzed: I haven't updated in ages |
| 01:42.56 | kyevan | I'm afraid to now |
| 01:42.56 | Dewi | (aah crap, there *is* an electrical use for hair. oops) |
| 01:43.06 | kyevan | mom yells at me for big downloads |
| 01:43.17 | dvs | kyevan: modem? |
| 01:43.18 | abrotman | !info trickle sarge |
| 01:43.29 | *** join/#debian infernix (n=nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 01:43.29 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 01:43.37 | kyevan | and I have nearly a gibi of updates to download (and 25 megs disk space used after :P) |
| 01:43.43 | bzed | kyevan: don't get the recent models. get one of the series they're not selling anymore, officially. should be less than 90 eur |
| 01:43.48 | kyevan | dvs: No, she just hates it :P |
| 01:43.50 | dan2 | asg: why also signifies the following things: stupidity, ignorance, laziness ... generally because it's a take only scenario, where you're not helping the other person when asking the question. |
| 01:43.56 | *** join/#debian rpedro_ (n=rpedro@89-180-132-238.net.novis.pt) |
| 01:44.03 | Langly1 | chroot: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6.1: unexpected reloc type 0x00190988 - Kernel pantic: attempted to kill init! |
| 01:44.05 | Langly1 | damn it |
| 01:44.08 | kyevan | bzed: In money I have a feeling for, that's..... what? |
| 01:44.21 | dan2 | asg: finally, why is unanswerable in any context.. it is usually answered like it was given as a how question |
| 01:44.29 | bzed | dan2: it also follows pizzaffection. why cook, if there's pizza? |
| 01:44.37 | kyevan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.41 | bzed | kyevan: less than $100 I'd guess |
| 01:44.48 | abrotman | Langly1: i think your alpha is having issues :) |
| 01:44.51 | asg | dan2: I disagree. My CIO often asks me 'why' something is the way it is; not because he is lazy or ignorant, just because he is testing me. |
| 01:45.11 | karsten | Langly1: Stock or custom kerel? |
| 01:45.12 | bzed | kyevan: ok, I have ann underpaid job at university, so $100 is ok for me ;) |
| 01:45.16 | Langly1 | stock |
| 01:45.18 | dvs | asg: Just answer "because". It works for Microsoft |
| 01:45.29 | kyevan | I have NO job period |
| 01:45.36 | kyevan | anyeay, sigh |
| 01:45.41 | asg | dvs: he's a big fan of Microsoft; it doesn't work though which is somewhat ironic. |
| 01:45.43 | *** join/#debian Tobsn (n=luxus@freshmeat.de) |
| 01:45.49 | *** join/#debian Hilaus (n=Hilaus@92.pool85-50-0.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 01:45.59 | dan2 | asg: why in the sense that he knows the answer and wants to see if you know the answer? |
| 01:46.01 | kyevan | back in a bit. since I have to reboot this broken bucket of bits, I might as well clean it out a bit insidee |
| 01:46.02 | karsten | dan2: Disagree completely. "Why" is ultimate reason, philosophy questions. Read Kernighan and Pike, or Martin Krafft's _The Debian System_. |
| 01:46.09 | dvs | asg: Then ask "Why do you use Microsoft?" ;-) |
| 01:46.12 | karsten | Langly1: Hrm. Not good. |
| 01:46.17 | Tobsn | hi |
| 01:46.18 | Tobsn | hmm how to open port 80 on a debian box? |
| 01:46.24 | kyevan | sudo shutdown -h now |
| 01:46.25 | kyevan | er |
| 01:46.32 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know how to diagnose why ntpd exits? |
| 01:46.33 | kyevan | sorry, I'm an idiot :O |
| 01:46.45 | karsten | Tobsn: Ports are opened by apps using them. Launch a webserver, eg: apache2. |
| 01:46.46 | asg | dvs: because he can't afford to fire me and needs others to blame I presume. |
| 01:46.51 | Tobsn | i did |
| 01:46.54 | Tobsn | nothing happend |
| 01:46.55 | *** join/#debian rpedro_ (n=rpedro@89-180-132-238.net.novis.pt) |
| 01:46.55 | parsonsd | kyevan : get dpkg to do it with the ! |
| 01:46.57 | karsten | kyevan: strace it or run in debug mode w/ verbose output. |
| 01:46.57 | dvs | Tobsn: All the ports are open on Debian by default. Unless you're using a firewall |
| 01:47.03 | Tobsn | he reponses on localhost but not over the ip |
| 01:47.07 | dan2 | karsten: philosophy is about thinking for other people. There is rarely a good effect that comes out of it. |
| 01:47.07 | bzed | kingsley: strace -vfF ntpd |
| 01:47.18 | bzed | kingsley: also run it in debug mode |
| 01:47.21 | asg | dan2: no, he just likes to engage in a little back and forth from time to time. |
| 01:47.38 | Tobsn | is there some default firewall installed on a new debian installation? |
| 01:47.41 | asg | kingsley: strace it |
| 01:47.43 | *** join/#debian batrick (n=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 01:47.49 | BUMBACL0T | is 666 enough to give users right to write and read, but not execute? |
| 01:47.54 | abrotman | Tobsn: not really needed |
| 01:47.55 | bzed | Tobsn: no, you usually don't need it |
| 01:47.58 | asg | BUMBACL0T: never use 666 |
| 01:48.03 | BUMBACL0T | asg, why not |
| 01:48.05 | karsten | dan2: I'm not prepared to discuss this at length here and now. However I 1) disagree with your statements and policies and 2) think you're being amazingly obtuse. |
| 01:48.07 | abrotman | BUMBACL0T: man chmod |
| 01:48.17 | Tobsn | so there is no firewall installed |
| 01:48.22 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 01:48.23 | abrotman | not needed |
| 01:48.23 | BUMBACL0T | abrotman, you like men huh? |
| 01:48.27 | abrotman | no servies installed by default |
| 01:48.28 | BUMBACL0T | keeps saying man |
| 01:48.28 | Tobsn | can i somehow check if? |
| 01:48.30 | dvs | ha! |
| 01:48.33 | *** join/#debian mikearthur (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 01:48.35 | abrotman | BUMBACL0T: are you fucking stupid? |
| 01:48.35 | bzed | Tobsn: linux is not windows |
| 01:48.38 | dan2 | asg: I find `why' turns up right around execution time... answering with itself ... "Why should I rethink my decisions twice?" |
| 01:48.39 | Tobsn | i know |
| 01:48.42 | asg | BUMBACL0T: because it indicates a failure in your thinking about filesystem security. What is it that you are trying to do? |
| 01:48.46 | mikearthur | how do I reinstall the default config files for a package? |
| 01:48.47 | BUMBACL0T | abrotman, are you a son of a fucking bitch |
| 01:48.47 | BUMBACL0T | ? |
| 01:48.53 | karsten | Tobsn: Suggest you check your apache logs and/or what your "listen" directives are, and/or error output. |
| 01:48.55 | Tobsn | but it doesnt response on port 80 so something is weird... |
| 01:49.02 | asg | BUMBACL0T: be nice or you will be removed |
| 01:49.03 | BUMBACL0T | calm you ass down, oldy |
| 01:49.03 | karsten | BUMBACL0T: Keep it civil and on topic. |
| 01:49.05 | abrotman | BUMBACL0T: you're really a god damned idiot ... go read some documentation |
| 01:49.09 | abrotman | !tell BUMBACL0T about grounding |
| 01:49.13 | Tobsn | karsten i did... like i said localhost:80 is okay |
| 01:49.22 | Tobsn | but not over the ip from the "outside" |
| 01:49.27 | karsten | Tobsn: That won't listen to any external ports. |
| 01:49.32 | bzed | Tobsn: you want to install a webserver? |
| 01:49.39 | Tobsn | lighttpd is running |
| 01:49.40 | dan2 | ~ops BUMBACL0T contributes inappropriate behavior |
| 01:49.50 | apt | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: BUMBACL0T contributes inappropriate behavior |
| 01:49.51 | asg | dan2: in the end ... "Why ask why, just drink Bud Dry" |
| 01:49.51 | abrotman | they all hate you! :) |
| 01:49.51 | Langly1 | grr how to I pass boot parameters when booting from the srm prompt |
| 01:50.00 | *** join/#debian Galga (n=HoneyPot@about/philosophy/galga) |
| 01:50.08 | bzed | Tobsn: configure it right, then :) |
| 01:50.12 | karsten | Tobsn: What you requested is what you're getting. Remove the localhost restriction. |
| 01:50.15 | Tobsn | i tried apache (default installed) too and nothing is comming over :80 from the ip just over localhost |
| 01:50.19 | abrotman | dan2: that was a bit drastic |
| 01:50.23 | Tobsn | its correct configured |
| 01:50.29 | *** join/#debian bobbyz (n=bobbyz@63-230-72-10.clsp.qwest.net) |
| 01:50.43 | dvs | Tobsn: If you can't see it externally, it's not properly configured |
| 01:50.47 | karsten | Tobsn: No, it's not, if you expect to be able to reach Apache from non-local interfaces. |
| 01:50.51 | dan2 | abrotman: but was it effective? |
| 01:50.52 | karsten | Tobsn: /join #apache. |
| 01:50.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net] by LoRez |
| 01:50.55 | *** part/#debian bobbyz (n=bobbyz@63-230-72-10.clsp.qwest.net) |
| 01:51.20 | Tobsn | karten, /join #lighttpd but anyway... |
| 01:51.21 | kingsley | bzed: Do you happen to know how to run ntpd in debug mode? |
| 01:51.44 | mikearthur | how do I reinstall the default config files for a package? |
| 01:51.56 | bzed | kingsley: ntpd -dddd (you want to read man ntpd |
| 01:52.21 | bzed | mikearthur: reinstall the package |
| 01:52.28 | kingsley | bzed: Thanks. |
| 01:52.36 | *** join/#debian IvanDragomilov (n=chatzill@85.97.30.43) |
| 01:52.43 | mikearthur | bzed: if I do apt-get install --reinstall it doesn't reinstall the config files |
| 01:53.14 | bzed | mikearthur: ppurge it and install it again then |
| 01:53.23 | mikearthur | can't, other applications depend on it |
| 01:53.39 | bzed | mikearthur: dpkg -P --force-depends |
| 01:53.44 | mikearthur | cheers |
| 01:53.53 | bzed | mikearthur: and apt-get install package after that |
| 01:53.59 | mikearthur | thanks mate |
| 01:54.03 | bzed | mikearthur: don;t do that with apt or dpkg, thoguh :P |
| 01:54.09 | bzed | np |
| 01:54.17 | mikearthur | cheers |
| 01:55.35 | Tobsn | nope dont work... |
| 01:55.52 | *** join/#debian jaredj (n=jaredj@adsl-070-145-115-177.sip.pns.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:55.53 | mikearthur | bzed: worked a treat, thanks |
| 01:55.57 | *** part/#debian mikearthur (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 01:56.12 | Tobsn | can i somehow check if there's a firewall blocking :80? |
| 01:56.33 | jaredj | hey everyone, anybody got a nForce 570 chipset/Asus M2N-SLI mobo? any acpi/apic news about it? |
| 01:56.42 | karsten | Tobsn: For the last time: that's not your problem. 'iptables -L' however. |
| 01:57.02 | Tobsn | ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh |
| 01:57.03 | Tobsn | ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere |
| 01:57.03 | Tobsn | block all -- anywhere anywhere |
| 01:57.08 | Tobsn | looks like it is the problem. |
| 01:57.41 | jaredj | heh |
| 01:58.01 | kingsley | bzed: I'm glad to see that ntpd has a man page. It looks useful. |
| 01:58.29 | bzed | !tell Tobsn about paste |
| 01:58.37 | karsten | Tobsn: 'iptables -F' should flush IIRC, but RTFM. |
| 01:58.46 | kingsley | bzed: My version of ntpd wasn't compiled with debugging enabled, but I;m stracing it now and waiting for it to abort. |
| 01:58.48 | karsten | bzed: I think we earned taht one ;-) |
| 01:58.50 | jaredj | karsten: i concur |
| 01:58.59 | *** join/#debian kyevan (n=kyevan@pool-71-98-18-51.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:59.14 | *** join/#debian stoned (n=stoned@r74-193-5-5.cnrocmta01.conrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) |
| 01:59.18 | stoned | Booyakasha! |
| 01:59.29 | stoned | I is back from Houston |
| 01:59.31 | Tobsn | yep but flush didnt work |
| 01:59.33 | bzed | karsten: yes :) |
| 01:59.46 | stoned | !seen eldowan |
| 01:59.47 | dpkg | eldowan <~grant@65.203.97.98> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 21h 45m 3s ago, saying: 'either way, enjoy life peterS. I'm outta here'. |
| 01:59.53 | *** part/#debian k-man (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 01:59.59 | Tobsn | <bzed> !tell Tobsn about paste <- normaly < 4 rows are ok... ;) - and the telling doesnt work hehe |
| 02:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 715] by debhelper |
| 02:00.15 | stoned | jetscreamer, you there |
| 02:00.37 | jaredj | !tell me about nforce |
| 02:00.52 | jaredj | !tell me about acpi |
| 02:01.00 | asg | jaredj: you can /msg the bot also |
| 02:01.06 | *** part/#debian IvanDragomilov (n=chatzill@85.97.30.43) |
| 02:01.08 | *** join/#debian prarage (n=prarage@221.134.6.26) |
| 02:01.17 | jaredj | oh k |
| 02:01.24 | jaredj | er |
| 02:01.40 | jaredj | !tell me what's your nick again |
| 02:01.47 | jaredj | right. |
| 02:01.58 | Tobsn | nice. |
| 02:02.10 | Tobsn | iptables -F and now he's dead |
| 02:02.18 | asg | jaredj: dpkg |
| 02:02.20 | Tobsn | no response on ssh |
| 02:02.24 | jaredj | ur, your default policy wasn't DROP was it? |
| 02:02.29 | jaredj | asg: yes, thanks |
| 02:02.41 | *** join/#debian t0k3n (n=b00@CPE0016b6e68f58-CM00122574b6f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:02.50 | stoned | oh man mirc sucks |
| 02:02.51 | t0k3n | Hey how do i restart apache on debian? |
| 02:02.57 | stoned | I can't wait to hook my stuff back up |
| 02:03.00 | asg | t0k3n: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 02:03.05 | jaredj | or apache2? |
| 02:03.13 | t0k3n | ty sir |
| 02:03.16 | t0k3n | apache2 |
| 02:03.17 | asg | you're welcome |
| 02:03.20 | kingsley | bzed: ntpd finally aborted, but I'm afraid that I'm unable to interpret strace's output. |
| 02:03.41 | asg | kingsley: paste it to a pastebin; let us take a look |
| 02:03.52 | t0k3n | i run apache2 though lol |
| 02:04.01 | asg | t0k3n: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 02:04.18 | *** join/#debian yasser (n=yasser@41.196.224.217) |
| 02:04.28 | t0k3n | once again TY lol |
| 02:04.52 | t0k3n | i cant get phpsysinfo to work on the site though |
| 02:04.53 | t0k3n | sshit |
| 02:05.01 | karsten | kingsley: You want to look toward the end of it, and specifically for lines with "ERR" in them. |
| 02:05.13 | t0k3n | how do uninstall apache2? |
| 02:05.14 | karsten | kingsley: If needs be pastebin the last 100-1000 lines or so. |
| 02:05.21 | karsten | t0k3n: man aptitude |
| 02:05.32 | *** join/#debian m4ggus[etch] (n=marcus@p5485EC8F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:05.33 | asg | t0k3n: what error are you seeing? |
| 02:05.43 | t0k3n | ask me to download it lol |
| 02:05.50 | Tobsn | php isnt running |
| 02:05.57 | asg | t0k3n: try CTRL+SHIFT+R in your browser |
| 02:05.58 | t0k3n | oh i didnt install that lol |
| 02:06.01 | Tobsn | apt- get install php5-common |
| 02:06.10 | Tobsn | apt- get install php5.1 |
| 02:06.11 | Tobsn | apt- get install php5 |
| 02:06.12 | Tobsn | whatever |
| 02:06.26 | Tobsn | and dont forget the apache2 mod |
| 02:06.28 | bzed | Tobsn: which browser are you runnign now? |
| 02:06.31 | Tobsn | ff |
| 02:06.35 | *** join/#debian mikearthur (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 02:06.35 | bzed | err |
| 02:06.40 | bzed | webserver |
| 02:06.40 | t0k3n | nothing is working |
| 02:06.43 | mikearthur | I can't seem to get exim4 installed |
| 02:06.50 | Tobsn | lighttpd and i also tried apache2 |
| 02:06.56 | asg | mikearthur: apt-get install exim4-daemon-light |
| 02:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 02:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 02:07.04 | Tobsn | but nevermind with my problem... the server is dead after the iptables -F |
| 02:07.05 | bzed | Tobsn: does it work now? |
| 02:07.07 | t0k3n | apt-get install php5-common didnt work |
| 02:07.10 | mikearthur | asg: fails on autoconfigure |
| 02:07.11 | jaredj | lighttpd, boo hiss |
| 02:07.15 | bzed | Tobsn: ah yeah, right |
| 02:07.15 | *** join/#debian helo_ (n=helo@ip24-253-247-38.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 02:07.17 | Tobsn | apt- get install php5 |
| 02:07.31 | asg | mikearthur: paste the error (/msg dpkg pastebin) |
| 02:07.46 | t0k3n | Package php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 02:07.47 | t0k3n | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 02:07.47 | t0k3n | is only available from another source |
| 02:07.47 | t0k3n | E: Package php5 has no installation candidate |
| 02:07.47 | *** kick/#debian [t0k3n!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 02:07.48 | *** join/#debian t0k3n (n=b00@CPE0016b6e68f58-CM00122574b6f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:07.52 | t0k3n | oops sorry' |
| 02:07.53 | Tobsn | damnyou |
| 02:07.56 | Tobsn | apt- get install php |
| 02:07.57 | bzed | t0k3n: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 02:08.03 | asg | t0k3n: what version of debian are you running? |
| 02:08.12 | t0k3n | im not sure gimmie a minute |
| 02:08.15 | mikearthur | asg: http://pastebin.ca/395510 |
| 02:08.27 | t0k3n | Linux Debian.t0k3n.com 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:09.21 | asg | mikearthur: does 'apt-get -f install' fix things? |
| 02:09.22 | t0k3n | apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 didnt work either |
| 02:09.32 | mikearthur | asg: nope, same error |
| 02:09.35 | helo_ | what is the answer to the most hated question these days? |
| 02:09.51 | bzed | Tobsn: well, seems you'd want to set the default policy to accept first :( |
| 02:09.54 | asg | t0k3n: well, 2.4.27 is sarge and sarge doesn't come with php5. You must have a backport that's breaking things |
| 02:10.08 | *** join/#debian mtn (n=mtn@vsat-148-65-200-206.c012.g4.mrt.starband.net) |
| 02:10.11 | *** join/#debian FallenHitokiri (n=blitz@p54ace574.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:10.19 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 02:10.29 | t0k3n | i had phpsysinfo working like a few months ago then i changed to freebsd lol |
| 02:10.42 | asg | mikearthur: try 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' as root |
| 02:10.48 | jaredj | helo_: no |
| 02:11.01 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (n=nomaster@ip70-185-168-242.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 02:11.04 | mikearthur | asg: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 02:11.34 | asg | mikearthur: one last thing, 'apt-get install exim4-config' |
| 02:11.57 | jaredj | helo_: or - no wait, the answer is, "yes i'll fix your computer" ;) |
| 02:12.20 | kyevan | Are there any better FPSes than OpenArena that are easy to install on debian (Incl. a working doom engine with music? or an easiesh to trick into working Quake(1) engine?) |
| 02:12.24 | Tobsn | yea |
| 02:12.26 | *** join/#debian rpedro_ (n=rpedro@89-180-132-238.net.novis.pt) |
| 02:12.27 | Tobsn | yeah yeah |
| 02:12.34 | Tobsn | that was a nice idea |
| 02:12.36 | kyevan | After working, you gotta blow something up sometimes :P |
| 02:12.37 | Tobsn | thx to karsten |
| 02:12.43 | t0k3n | as long as apache2 is working lol |
| 02:12.46 | Tobsn | now the default policy is drop.. |
| 02:12.51 | t0k3n | how do i remove phpsyinfo? |
| 02:13.04 | asg | t0k3n: apt-get remove --purge phpsyinfo |
| 02:13.22 | bzed | Tobsn: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT |
| 02:13.24 | jaredj | i'm a fan of the name 'karsten' |
| 02:13.31 | bzed | Tobsn: same for OUTPUT |
| 02:13.35 | asg | jaredj: everyone is, Karsten rocks |
| 02:13.48 | t0k3n | ty |
| 02:13.51 | jaredj | :) |
| 02:14.16 | *** join/#debian wanbo21888 (n=bow@221.226.103.189) |
| 02:14.42 | *** join/#debian tarcisio (n=tarcisio@200.97.127.186) |
| 02:14.58 | Tobsn | bzed, the box is gone |
| 02:15.16 | Tobsn | i have to check tomorrow if they have a repair console, if not i have to kill it |
| 02:15.19 | *** join/#debian SubStack (n=SubStack@56-38.trans.uaf.edu) |
| 02:15.20 | Tobsn | and reinstall |
| 02:15.23 | mikearthur | asg: same errors |
| 02:15.24 | *** part/#debian Josiah (n=Owner@208.115.232.220) |
| 02:15.35 | tarcisio | portugues chat |
| 02:15.39 | bzed | Tobsn: they should at least have remote hands |
| 02:15.41 | amphi | !pt |
| 02:15.41 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:15.46 | *** join/#debian SanitoeterNo1 (n=sanitoet@p57BBF3D9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:16.02 | t0k3n | you guys kick ass |
| 02:16.18 | anarcat | asg: thanks for sec, it's just great!! |
| 02:16.23 | bzed | Tobsn: do you ahve any clue how those firewall rules came in there at all? |
| 02:16.41 | anarcat | asg: http://wiki.koumbit.net/LogMonitoringService |
| 02:17.18 | bzed | Tobsn: but, don't blame karsten, i doubt most people would have though on the default policy |
| 02:17.19 | *** join/#debian LOLNADA (n=jduran@190.39.241.115) |
| 02:17.21 | kingsley | bzed: Thanks for the tip on ntpd's man page. Using the -l option to specify a log file revealed why it's exiting. |
| 02:17.44 | bzed | :) |
| 02:17.50 | bzed | np kingsley |
| 02:17.53 | asg | mikearthur: before I go to bed, the only thing I can suggest is that you edit '/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp' and add remote_smtp_smarthost=127.0.0.1 and retry 'apt-get -f install'. If that doesn't work, someone else should be able to help. |
| 02:17.57 | asg | anarcat: cool |
| 02:18.02 | bzed | reading the manpage for a program is always a good idea btw ;) |
| 02:18.05 | LOLNADA | Gente |
| 02:18.16 | *** join/#debian eldowan (n=grant@65.203.97.98) |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | asg: don't go .. this oculd be good! |
| 02:18.19 | Tobsn | hmm dont know |
| 02:18.20 | anarcat | asg: you think it would be a good idea to submit my rc.d script? |
| 02:18.31 | stoned | hey |
| 02:18.37 | eldowan | stoned: PM |
| 02:18.42 | jaredj | wait... what? |
| 02:18.49 | karsten | asg: Contact my accountant for your standard bribe. |
| 02:18.57 | *** join/#debian nicoAMG (n=mgmora@sancarlos-a64.racsa.co.cr) |
| 02:18.58 | LOLNADA | hey ppl |
| 02:19.05 | LOLNADA | i got a problem with my xorg.conf |
| 02:19.07 | asg | anarcat: can't hurt |
| 02:19.08 | stoned | if ya'll see eldowan or jetscreamer can you tell him to msg stoned. I left message to jetscreamer but can't find eldowan online |
| 02:19.16 | eldowan | stoned |
| 02:19.16 | asg | karsten: :) I'll be at the pub tomorrow |
| 02:19.18 | stoned | if ya'll remember to do that |
| 02:19.18 | stoned | yto |
| 02:19.19 | bzed | !ppl |
| 02:19.19 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 02:19.21 | LOLNADA | im trying to install my propietary drivers |
| 02:19.23 | stoned | i just got into conroe |
| 02:19.25 | eldowan | stoned: PM |
| 02:19.27 | stoned | im in houston almost |
| 02:19.28 | stoned | ok |
| 02:19.28 | asg | anarcat: gotta go, early meeting. ciao. |
| 02:19.31 | *** part/#debian wanbo21888 (n=bow@221.226.103.189) |
| 02:19.32 | abrotman | eldowan: JUST MSG HIM |
| 02:19.37 | abrotman | god .. stop being a twat |
| 02:19.39 | anarcat | asg: thanks ciao :) |
| 02:19.50 | eldowan | abrotman: I did wayy before you chimed in your penny |
| 02:19.52 | stoned | abrotman, still as charming as you were 4 days ago |
| 02:19.53 | stoned | :) |
| 02:19.57 | abrotman | stoned: die |
| 02:20.01 | stoned | wow |
| 02:20.10 | bzed | LOLNADA: for? |
| 02:20.12 | stoned | what a dick |
| 02:20.13 | abrotman | stoned: or communicate with them via msgserv |
| 02:20.18 | abrotman | erm .. memoserv |
| 02:20.30 | stoned | abrotman or you can enjoy and take your time blowing me |
| 02:20.35 | abrotman | what a dick |
| 02:20.41 | stoned | i don't deny it |
| 02:20.46 | stoned | take this shit elsewhere man |
| 02:20.50 | stoned | don't be offtopic |
| 02:20.51 | stoned | jeez |
| 02:20.53 | stoned | im out |
| 02:20.59 | abrotman | your'e doing it in here! |
| 02:21.02 | LOLNADA | /joing debian-de |
| 02:21.13 | *** join/#debian TraceGreen (n=Trace@125.33.172.141) |
| 02:21.19 | bzed | LOLNADA: there's a # missing |
| 02:21.27 | jaredj | and an extra g |
| 02:21.29 | LOLNADA | hehehe |
| 02:21.35 | *** join/#debian dZen|n| (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 02:21.40 | LOLNADA | hey |
| 02:21.50 | LOLNADA | someone who knows to configure an ATI card |
| 02:21.53 | LOLNADA | please |
| 02:21.55 | abrotman | which one? |
| 02:21.56 | bzed | LOLNADA: and you still didn;t tell us which drivers you want to iinstall? for your proprietary mouse? beamer? |
| 02:21.59 | bzed | aaah |
| 02:21.59 | *** join/#debian omry__ (n=omry@l192-117-123-63.broadband.actcom.net.il) |
| 02:22.18 | LOLNADA | ATI VideoCard Driver |
| 02:22.19 | jaredj | beamer drivers? |
| 02:22.31 | abrotman | LOLNADA: which video card? which verseion of debian ? |
| 02:22.38 | bzed | LOLNADA: there're about 1231412123141243124124312 of those. |
| 02:22.41 | LOLNADA | etch testing |
| 02:22.46 | abrotman | WHICH video card |
| 02:22.49 | LOLNADA | ATI |
| 02:22.52 | LOLNADA | Xpress |
| 02:22.55 | LOLNADA | X200 |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | 200M? |
| 02:22.56 | bzed | !tell LOLNADA about esp |
| 02:22.57 | LOLNADA | yes |
| 02:22.59 | LOLNADA | that |
| 02:23.03 | abrotman | !enter |
| 02:23.03 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter every 3 words makes it difficult and annoying for us to follow what you're saying. Please try to type multiple sentences or phrases on a single line. (Remember, the less you annoy us, the more help you're likely to get.) |
| 02:23.17 | bzed | !tell LOLNADA about fglrx one-liner |
| 02:23.22 | *** join/#debian Lathi (n=dalcorn@cpe-65-27-224-172.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 02:23.27 | LOLNADA | I know about fglrx |
| 02:23.30 | *** join/#debian tsukasa__ (n=tsukasa@p5482D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:23.38 | LOLNADA | but, when I do "aticonfig --initial" |
| 02:23.42 | LOLNADA | X crashes |
| 02:23.43 | bzed | LOLNADA: did you do what the oneliner sais? |
| 02:23.55 | bzed | s/s/d/ |
| 02:24.14 | LOLNADA | "ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]" |
| 02:24.14 | LOLNADA | Driver"ati" |
| 02:24.14 | LOLNADA | BusID"PCI:1:5:0" |
| 02:24.26 | LOLNADA | that's what ACTUALLY my xorg.conf says on Device Section |
| 02:24.28 | *** join/#debian hatter (n=hatter@193.25.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 02:24.40 | Lathi | i'm having trouble getting the kernel-image-2.6.8-3-k7-smp kernel to boot on my athlon mp system. it kernel panics with no rootfs |
| 02:24.44 | bzed | nice, could you know please answer my question LOLNADA ? |
| 02:24.48 | *** join/#debian Faithful (n=Faithful@ns.linuxterminal.com) |
| 02:25.00 | Lathi | i've tried building my own kernel using kernel-package, but the same results |
| 02:25.00 | LOLNADA | I read that I had to change on Driver "ati" by "fglrx" but it doesnt work yet |
| 02:25.05 | LOLNADA | what? |
| 02:25.09 | LOLNADA | oneliner? |
| 02:25.13 | LOLNADA | is? |
| 02:25.20 | bzed | LOLNADA: dpkg messaged you some lines |
| 02:25.22 | LOLNADA | im new on linux |
| 02:25.44 | LOLNADA | i already have installed my fglrx drivers |
| 02:26.21 | bzed | LOLNADA: then answer my question please. have you installed them by using the dbeian packge, did you build the kernel module, did you load it? |
| 02:26.40 | *** join/#debian pbbb (n=^_^@dsl027-139-014.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:26.45 | abrotman | bzed: arne't you german ? |
| 02:26.46 | LOLNADA | ok, I installed the debian packages |
| 02:26.53 | LOLNADA | from the repository |
| 02:26.54 | pbbb | where can i pick up mysql5 for sarge? its not in the debian backports |
| 02:27.03 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know if my understanding is correct that ntp only uses universal coordinated time and is therefore incompatible with hardware clocks set to local time? |
| 02:27.17 | LOLNADA | BUT, I didnt build the kernel modules, so i didnt loed it, i dont know how |
| 02:27.18 | abrotman | kingsley: ntpd translates |
| 02:27.23 | abrotman | or the ntp client |
| 02:28.08 | *** join/#debian |TryMore| (n=kvirc@pool-68-163-144-7.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:28.09 | LOLNADA | bzed: how can I do that? |
| 02:28.25 | bzed | LOLNADA: look what dpkg told you. |
| 02:28.39 | abrotman | pbbb: yes it is |
| 02:28.58 | pbbb | i checked main/m/ on backports, dont see it |
| 02:29.11 | abrotman | pbbb: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ |
| 02:29.21 | kyevan | Why does apt have a Quake2 engine, but no Quake1? |
| 02:29.31 | abrotman | no one packaged it ? |
| 02:29.39 | pbbb | dfsg = ? |
| 02:29.42 | LOLNADA | iv not run dpkg for now, for what? |
| 02:29.43 | abrotman | !dfsg |
| 02:29.43 | dpkg | [dfsg] the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 02:29.52 | LOLNADA | i dont need to install anything |
| 02:29.54 | LOLNADA | i have my |
| 02:29.55 | LOLNADA | fglrx-kernel-src |
| 02:29.59 | LOLNADA | fglrx-driver |
| 02:30.11 | LOLNADA | fglrx-control |
| 02:30.16 | LOLNADA | i just need it |
| 02:30.25 | kyevan | abrotman: Well, duh. I'm just sorta randomly wondering why :P |
| 02:30.27 | LOLNADA | my videocard is an integrated card |
| 02:30.33 | pbbb | how would i install mysql-server-5.0? how do i type that properly with apt-get install ? |
| 02:30.37 | LOLNADA | i read it still works |
| 02:30.46 | abrotman | kyevan: noone likes quake? :) |
| 02:30.55 | abrotman | pbbb: there are insturctions at backports.org |
| 02:31.28 | pbbb | pinning is preferred over using the -t option with apt-get? |
| 02:31.41 | kyevan | abrotman: Well, problem: |
| 02:31.47 | abrotman | pbbb: oyu use both |
| 02:31.52 | kyevan | I have a quake cd and no quake 2 disk :P |
| 02:32.02 | *** join/#debian AbasCatus (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 02:32.02 | abrotman | i have no idea why that's a problem |
| 02:32.27 | LOLNADA | im gonna keep trying |
| 02:32.32 | LOLNADA | ill be right back |
| 02:32.33 | kyevan | abrotman: quake2 (or 1)'s data isn't free to distribute |
| 02:32.36 | bzed | LOLNADA: again, do what dpjkg told you. it told you about fglrx oneliner, a line with a number of commands. run it |
| 02:32.37 | LOLNADA | ill restart X |
| 02:32.39 | kyevan | ONLY the engine |
| 02:32.53 | abrotman | kyevan: would it help you if i told you i've never played either? :) |
| 02:32.55 | *** part/#debian LOLNADA (n=jduran@190.39.241.115) |
| 02:32.59 | kyevan | abrotman: :P |
| 02:33.00 | abrotman | i don't think anyways |
| 02:33.00 | *** join/#debian t0h (n=tommi@dsl-kvlmmlgw1-feb7fa00-204.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 02:33.07 | pbbb | rc libmysqlclient 4.0.24-10 mysql database client library <- how would i purge that? |
| 02:33.13 | abrotman | man dpkg |
| 02:33.13 | pbbb | since i cannot see the full name |
| 02:33.40 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 02:33.57 | bzed | pbbb: add a COLUMNS=200 in front of the dpkg line |
| 02:34.10 | t0k3n | could someone help me get phpbb? |
| 02:34.20 | pbbb | bzed, thanks |
| 02:34.39 | abrotman | or use a wildcard |
| 02:34.50 | abrotman | which is probably a bad idea in reality :) |
| 02:35.25 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 02:35.56 | jaredj | abrotman: yellow. |
| 02:36.49 | jaredj | sigh |
| 02:37.33 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 02:37.57 | *** join/#debian neekofab (n=neekofab@adsl-68-253-239-155.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 02:41.14 | *** join/#debian der0b (n=s0d_0ff@c-66-31-142-244.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 02:42.03 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 02:42.16 | *** join/#debian bbelt16a1 (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 02:43.30 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 02:44.25 | *** join/#debian SiM_bah (n=SiM_bah@202.152.170.254) |
| 02:44.28 | *** part/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 02:44.52 | *** join/#debian breakeven (n=odd@unaffiliated/breakeven) |
| 02:45.51 | *** join/#debian patternsmith (n=INGSOC@124-168-35-30.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:47.11 | *** join/#debian dZen|n| (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 02:51.07 | jaredj | nforce 570 chipset? anyone? acpi/apic problems? fixes? news? |
| 02:51.07 | *** join/#debian zenbum (n=zenbum@c-67-180-69-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:51.36 | kyevan | I got ezquake working. From binaries. with freaking horrid sound. |
| 02:51.42 | jaredj | 11025? |
| 02:52.10 | jaredj | ezquake, cool. i got quake running under cedega |
| 02:52.12 | Langly1 | 8000khz sound is down right evil |
| 02:52.14 | jaredj | not so smooth |
| 02:52.32 | jaredj | what, it's just like playing quake over the phone ;) |
| 02:52.36 | *** join/#debian Validated (n=Valid@60-240-2-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:52.59 | *** join/#debian tsukasa__ (n=tsukasa@p5482D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:53.16 | kyevan | It sounds like they tried to do echos and failed horribly |
| 02:53.29 | Validated | what is the best for detecting email spam? |
| 02:53.36 | jaredj | you |
| 02:53.43 | *** join/#debian i3d (n=i3dmaste@64.154.178.210) |
| 02:53.46 | Kevin` | !find bin/mdadm |
| 02:53.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/mdadm' (1): (/sbin/mdadm) in admin/mdadm. |
| 02:54.20 | jaredj | oom |
| 02:54.38 | jaredj | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.57 | *** join/#debian manience (n=robert@warr.lrt.mw.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 02:55.03 | *** join/#debian Ariel_Calzada (n=aricalso@190.1.200.116) |
| 02:55.09 | jaredj | Validated: to be serious if unhelpful, i don't know |
| 02:55.24 | Validated | thanks |
| 02:55.30 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (n=kvirc@65.183.247.11) |
| 02:55.31 | *** part/#debian anarcat (n=anarcat@pdpc/supporter/active/anarcat) |
| 02:55.58 | *** join/#debian GodFather (n=rcc@c-69-244-163-116.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:56.16 | *** join/#debian CTho (i=Chris@cpe-72-179-63-41.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 02:56.20 | CTho | you guys should implement MNG support in iceweasel, because GIF wasn't really intended to be free. |
| 02:56.32 | abrotman | file a bug |
| 02:56.39 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:57.17 | manience | do anyone have an idea, how to trim a string by bash commands? e.g. i have to trim the $BASH_COMMAND variable after 3 chars... |
| 02:57.20 | kyevan | CTho: That sort of change should really probably go upstream, to Mozilla. |
| 02:57.32 | CTho | kyevan: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18574 |
| 02:57.41 | litage | CTho: did you mean PNG rather than MNG? |
| 02:57.46 | CTho | litage: no. |
| 02:58.27 | jaredj | manience: manience: man bash, type /\$\{parameter:offset |
| 02:58.39 | kyevan | also, no, just no |
| 02:58.48 | kyevan | In fact, remove animated gif support :P |
| 02:58.52 | mike1980 | Hi guys my mouse pad on my laptop is extremely slow how do I speed it up? my hand is started to hurt |
| 02:59.05 | *** join/#debian Thaiger (n=HP_Admin@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 02:59.22 | manience | jaredj: thank for ur suggestion. do i have to replace "parameter" with a string? |
| 02:59.22 | Azar | yay the gif is free now? |
| 02:59.24 | dan2 | Langly1: that's called toll quality (telephone grade) |
| 02:59.33 | Thaiger | Has anyone got debian to work on a zaurus? |
| 02:59.37 | t0k3n | hey how can i get /var/www/ writeable by all? |
| 02:59.46 | jaredj | manience: yes, eventually - but that is a search that will take you to the section on the bit you want to use |
| 03:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 724] by debhelper |
| 03:00.18 | jaredj | manience: so to be clear, the /\$\{parameter:offset is not something to tell bash, it's something to tell man to get to the right place in the page |
| 03:00.40 | mike1980 | !mouse |
| 03:00.40 | dpkg | from memory, mouse is if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG, or http://www.experiencescompany.com/SentImages/Bless%20This%20Mouse.jpg |
| 03:01.03 | jaredj | manience: also, <pedantic> if you use that, make sure your script says #!/bin/bash at the top and not #!/bin/sh </pedantic> |
| 03:01.05 | abrotman | mike1980: gnome and kde have applets to change acceleration |
| 03:01.21 | *** part/#debian CTho (i=Chris@cpe-72-179-63-41.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 03:01.38 | intruder_ | do you think proxying a instable (because far away) wireless connection is a good solution to stabilize services such a instant messaging ? |
| 03:01.55 | mike1980 | abrotman: kde applet in control panel dose not seem to do anything |
| 03:02.03 | manience | jaredj: ok, have thanks |
| 03:02.12 | jaredj | np |
| 03:02.20 | t0k3n | hey how can i get /var/www/ writeable by all? |
| 03:02.33 | mike1980 | abrotman: same gose for "man set" |
| 03:02.47 | abrotman | xset you mean ? |
| 03:02.48 | mike1980 | woops yep |
| 03:03.06 | *** join/#debian karrotx_ (n=steve@64.253.3.13) |
| 03:03.22 | abrotman | try man xorg.conf .. see if there's a setting for the mouse ? |
| 03:03.36 | mike1980 | abrotman: ok one sec |
| 03:04.17 | jaredj | t0k3n: chmod -R a+wX /var/www; but you probably don't want to do that |
| 03:04.31 | t0k3n | why not? |
| 03:04.35 | jaredj | weeelll |
| 03:04.39 | *** join/#debian AbasCatus (n=cool@port366.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 03:04.45 | jaredj | i guess if it doesn't have a cgi-bin in it it wouldn't be thaaat bad |
| 03:04.59 | intruder_ | t0k3n: you probably want to add to users you allow to write /var/www in the www-data group |
| 03:05.00 | t0k3n | its just for a fun site lol |
| 03:05.09 | jaredj | t0k3n: what intruder_ said |
| 03:05.14 | bzed | t0k3n: script kiddies like fun sites |
| 03:05.16 | jaredj | it's not fun once you get pwnt ;P |
| 03:05.18 | t0k3n | intruder_ its just me that can login to the box lol |
| 03:05.28 | t0k3n | my router blocks port 22 :P |
| 03:05.30 | bzed | t0k3n: they have much fun on making a warez zone out of it |
| 03:05.40 | bzed | t0k3n: what about 80?" |
| 03:05.45 | mike1980 | abrotman: wow there a lot of stuff in there |
| 03:05.51 | intruder_ | t0k3n: just add your user in the www-data group |
| 03:05.58 | t0k3n | how? |
| 03:06.13 | jaredj | groupmod, i believe |
| 03:06.20 | bzed | adduser username group |
| 03:06.26 | jaredj | oh. ^^ |
| 03:06.42 | abrotman | mike1980: duh :) |
| 03:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 03:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 03:07.31 | t0k3n | not working |
| 03:07.38 | *** join/#debian hugyup (n=unk@124.80.89.94) |
| 03:07.54 | mike1980 | abrotman: so hmm what would i change |
| 03:08.08 | abrotman | dunno .. i didn't read it |
| 03:08.10 | *** join/#debian JW (n=JW@cvs.claborn.net) |
| 03:08.27 | jaredj | t0k3n: if your group memberships change you have to log out and back in to be in the new groups |
| 03:08.33 | jaredj | (or sg, but no one knows about sg) |
| 03:10.07 | Langly1 | grr fixed that one prob on my alpha, now get something similar to this http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/09.24.shtml |
| 03:10.26 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 03:10.30 | Langly1 | the whole respawning to fast disabled for 5 min |
| 03:10.37 | JW | Can someone please tell me what command to type on Etch that will give me an ncurses interface for reconfiguring the network - the way "dpkg-reconfigure etherconf" used to on Sarge? |
| 03:10.43 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (n=Rusty1@cpe-72-226-96-74.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:10.51 | abrotman | ethtool |
| 03:11.03 | mike1980 | !mouse speed |
| 03:11.08 | manience | jaredj: i reconsider, that $0, $1, $2,... or @ would do something like what i want |
| 03:11.09 | mike1980 | !mouse |
| 03:11.10 | dpkg | somebody said mouse was if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG, or http://www.experiencescompany.com/SentImages/Bless%20This%20Mouse.jpg |
| 03:11.12 | jaredj | abrotman: choice of anesthesiologists everywhere |
| 03:11.18 | jaredj | manience: oh k |
| 03:11.20 | manience | jaredj: just for your info |
| 03:11.24 | jaredj | ic ic |
| 03:12.33 | JW | abrotman: You Da Man. I've been googleing for that information all over the internet |
| 03:12.46 | abrotman | i da man! i da man! |
| 03:13.20 | Azar | :) |
| 03:13.21 | hatter | !monkeys |
| 03:13.21 | dpkg | [monkeys] the most evil creatures in the world....damn bill gates and his monkeys DO NOT FEED THEM ! |
| 03:14.16 | jaredj | !tell abrotman about pls |
| 03:14.30 | Azar | abrotman knows everything |
| 03:14.46 | jaredj | he is the man! he is the man! |
| 03:14.52 | jaredj | (assumption) |
| 03:15.00 | abrotman | jaredj: are you broken ? |
| 03:15.06 | Azar | from now one, when you ask, do : man |
| 03:15.29 | jaredj | Telling us that something is broken is fairly useless. |
| 03:15.36 | hatter | as in he is the man page ? |
| 03:15.40 | jaredj | Ask me about <doesn't work> |
| 03:15.41 | JW | abrotman: actually I'll have to take that back. ethtool is low level stuff. I want to configure basic settings; IP, netmask, gateway, DNS (that's what etherconf used to do) |
| 03:16.01 | Azar | yep |
| 03:16.12 | jaredj | JW: iproute? |
| 03:16.12 | Azar | JW open up the files and edit away |
| 03:16.20 | hatter | jw: why u want ncurses for ? |
| 03:16.23 | JW | Azar: that's exaclty what I don't want to do |
| 03:16.24 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:16.25 | jaredj | ohh |
| 03:16.25 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:16.30 | Azar | ah ok |
| 03:16.48 | hatter | or ewe |
| 03:16.57 | JW | hatter: I'm trying to explain to someone else how to change their IP and they're not knowledgeable enough for them to edit the file |
| 03:17.14 | JW | they won't be doing it again, so there's no point in teaching them to use a text editor right now |
| 03:17.16 | hatter | jw: thats a good reason |
| 03:17.29 | JW | if I was on sarge I'd be done already |
| 03:17.40 | JW | er, they. |
| 03:18.13 | jaredj | JW: obscure sed -i commands? |
| 03:18.17 | JW | Is there a way to get the basic installer's network Ncurses interface back up? |
| 03:18.22 | abrotman | JW: oh wait .. |
| 03:18.46 | JW | jaredj: yes I /could/ do that but that's crazy for such a simple task |
| 03:18.46 | *** join/#debian slipstream-- (n=slipstre@ppp85-141-109-205.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 03:18.46 | *** join/#debian Xormic (n=ADD@adsl-76-201-141-145.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:18.51 | jaredj | meh, if it's one-off |
| 03:18.56 | JW | What do you folks tell the newbies to use when they want to change their IP? |
| 03:19.09 | JW | (if they're using Etch) |
| 03:19.30 | abrotman | are they using a GUI ? |
| 03:19.36 | abrotman | gnome or kde etc |
| 03:20.20 | JW | shell in KDE |
| 03:20.40 | JW | if there's a KDE or Gnome app for it, that's fine |
| 03:20.44 | JW | though I assumed there's more likely to be an ncurses interface for it |
| 03:20.50 | *** join/#debian maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 03:20.59 | abrotman | there is an app in both |
| 03:21.13 | abrotman | i don't know what it is in KDE .. but there is one .. and there's definitely one in Gnome |
| 03:21.34 | JW | And it works with Debian? I've always avoided the KDE/Gnome network config tools because I figured they don't really know what distro their on :-D |
| 03:22.00 | hatter | the one in gnome works finre |
| 03:22.04 | hatter | on etch |
| 03:22.08 | JW | what's it's name? |
| 03:22.23 | hatter | i would have to login to a box and check |
| 03:22.26 | hatter | hold on |
| 03:22.29 | abrotman | gnome-network-preferences |
| 03:24.58 | *** join/#debian doubleukay (n=doubleuk@210-84-15-19.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:25.26 | *** join/#debian maddash_ (n=maddash@ool-18bacd1f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:26.43 | *** part/#debian Hilaus (n=Hilaus@92.pool85-50-0.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 03:27.17 | manience | jaredj: do u have an idea, why $1, $2,... wont work in the .profile? |
| 03:27.36 | jaredj | yes. |
| 03:27.44 | jaredj | they are the positional parameters. |
| 03:27.59 | jaredj | so if you make foo.sh, and then you sh foo.sh a b c d |
| 03:28.01 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (n=madmax@adsl-068-209-178-012.sip.ilm.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:28.14 | jaredj | then inside foo.sh $1 will be a, $2 will be b, $3 will be c, and $4 will be d. |
| 03:28.21 | jaredj | but the .profile is executed with no parameters |
| 03:28.28 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 03:28.44 | jaredj | now if you write a function, fn () { echo $1; } |
| 03:28.56 | jaredj | and later on in the script you say fn foo |
| 03:29.00 | jaredj | it will echo foo |
| 03:29.14 | *** join/#debian slipstre1m-- (n=slipstre@ppp85-141-108-94.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 03:29.19 | jaredj | but i'm not quite sure what you're attempting |
| 03:30.28 | manience | jaredj: ok, but my idea was to make an alias and add an extra string at the end of the input, e.g. i type "rmm test" and the alias will format it to "mv test /tmp" |
| 03:30.31 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@ADSL-TPLUS-89-37.telecomplus.net) |
| 03:30.45 | jaredj | manience: ah. for that you need a function |
| 03:30.58 | jaredj | manience: rmm () { mv $1 /tmp; } |
| 03:31.09 | jaredj | if you put that in your .profile it will be available to you at your prompt |
| 03:31.32 | abrotman | .bash_profile ? .bashrc ? |
| 03:31.47 | jaredj | yes yes, ^^^ |
| 03:31.52 | manience | jaredj: k, i'll that suggestions... wait a min... |
| 03:32.15 | *** join/#debian bintut (n=bintut@203.125.63.150) |
| 03:32.21 | jaredj | abrotman: although, for this it really doesn't matter, because the function will work in any bourne shell |
| 03:32.33 | abrotman | but your shell has to read the file |
| 03:32.41 | jaredj | and bash doesn't look at .profile? |
| 03:33.25 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 03:34.17 | abrotman | it's supposed says the man page .. but i'm not sure i'd leave it there |
| 03:34.17 | jaredj | man page: " After reading [/etc/profile], [bash] looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable " |
| 03:34.43 | abrotman | especially since anything you leave there should probably be compliant with most shells .. |
| 03:34.44 | jaredj | so i guess if you have a .bash_profile, your .profile would be ignored |
| 03:34.49 | manience | jaredj: ok, thanks, it works very well |
| 03:34.49 | abrotman | since they probably all read them |
| 03:34.53 | abrotman | read it |
| 03:35.02 | abrotman | jaredj: says it reads them all |
| 03:35.03 | jaredj | manience: np |
| 03:35.11 | abrotman | oh . nevermind |
| 03:35.14 | abrotman | stupid shells@! |
| 03:35.21 | jaredj | myeh |
| 03:35.23 | jaredj | plan9 has rc |
| 03:35.47 | jaredj | rc is different but i have the distinct feeling that once i knew it i would not need any other shell |
| 03:35.49 | manience | jaredj: i'm going to buy my own shell book tomorrow ^^ |
| 03:35.55 | jaredj | :) |
| 03:36.08 | *** join/#debian maddash__ (n=maddash@ool-18bacd1f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:36.19 | *** join/#debian maasha (n=maasha@jsm-moe-lt.imb.uq.edu.au) |
| 03:36.24 | jaredj | (within the context of plan9 anyway... oh linux + proprietary apps sucks) |
| 03:36.36 | *** join/#debian _TryMore_ (n=kvirc@pool-68-163-144-7.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:36.43 | maddash__ | !plan9 |
| 03:36.43 | dpkg | plan9 is probably at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/, written by the creators of Unix and C, a highly distributed OS, filesystem layout resembles Unix somewhat. Very mouse intensive. Now under a mostly free license. |
| 03:36.56 | *** join/#debian cHaPlinux_ (n=cHaPlinu@200.141.204.83) |
| 03:37.09 | maasha | i got i directory with a zillion-squillion files. how to remove them? rm *.foo cant do it |
| 03:37.11 | *** join/#debian prarage_ (n=prarage@221.134.6.26) |
| 03:37.35 | *** part/#debian maddash__ (n=maddash@ool-18bacd1f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:37.39 | jaredj | maasha: find . -name \*.foo | xargs rm |
| 03:37.50 | maasha | jaredj: hm. testing |
| 03:37.56 | *** join/#debian inzion_ (n=inzion@82.197.162.58) |
| 03:38.11 | Supaplex | consider -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 03:38.14 | jaredj | maasha: (the \ is so the * goes to find instead of being eaten by the shell) |
| 03:38.31 | jaredj | yes, thank you supaplex, very wise |
| 03:38.37 | maasha | jaredj: thanks. worked |
| 03:38.53 | jaredj | np |
| 03:41.27 | jaredj | spaces in filenames + no -print0 = pain |
| 03:41.28 | *** join/#debian CAiRO (n=tooar@vedron.domains-und-mehr.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:41.29 | *** join/#debian trsantos (n=thiago@201.32.245.91) |
| 03:41.29 | *** join/#debian sudo_maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 03:41.30 | *** mode/#debian [+l 715] by debhelper |
| 03:41.31 | *** join/#debian NsOmNiAc (n=nsomniac@adsl-75-32-168-35.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:41.41 | *** join/#debian subopt (n=eric@cpe-70-112-194-108.austin.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:41.45 | *** join/#debian johns^ (n=john@decande.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:41.45 | *** join/#debian Adrian (i=adrian@opensource.geek.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:42.14 | *** join/#debian maddash_ (n=maddash@ool-18bacd1f.dyn.optonline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:42.54 | Azar | ookk who in here (users) prefer gui ofer command line administration tools ? |
| 03:43.23 | jaredj | boo hiss |
| 03:43.30 | Supaplex | the quiet ones |
| 03:43.34 | Azar | hehe |
| 03:43.36 | jaredj | you can't use em over ssh very easily |
| 03:43.53 | Azar | use what? the gui or cli ? |
| 03:43.56 | jaredj | the gui |
| 03:43.59 | Supaplex | well, unless you use ssh -X |
| 03:44.08 | jaredj | and you have a decent connection and an x server |
| 03:44.24 | jaredj | putty is trivial to get for windows, but an x server not so much |
| 03:44.29 | *** join/#debian opqdonut (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.customer.academica.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:44.29 | Azar | here is a clear gui "treat": http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/What_Do_I_Do_Here_0x3f_.aspx |
| 03:44.39 | *** join/#debian _kaiser_ (n=kaiser@74-131-118-200.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 03:44.45 | jaredj | bahahaa |
| 03:45.00 | jaredj | it all tends to boil down to the CLI anyway |
| 03:45.05 | *** join/#debian ricky_ (n=ricky@d205-250-120-48.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:45.10 | Supaplex | cygwin has X |
| 03:45.13 | jaredj | once you want to configure something some way the GUI wasn't designed to let you |
| 03:45.17 | *** join/#debian betterworld (i=pepe@pc27.mathematik.uni-muenchen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:45.32 | Azar | I tend to find gui very limiting in choices at times |
| 03:45.38 | jaredj | Supaplex: yes. and requires more installation than i generally care to do. putty is one exe |
| 03:45.49 | ricky_ | anyone know the library's name that has the command play to play music mp3 on the shell |
| 03:46.03 | *** part/#debian trsantos (n=thiago@201.32.245.91) |
| 03:46.15 | *** join/#debian konqui_ (i=freenode@deinbnc.go4bnc.de) |
| 03:46.19 | Supaplex | !tell ricky_ -about search |
| 03:46.23 | *** join/#debian beoba (n=aoeu@unaffiliated/beoba) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:47.25 | jaredj | Supaplex: vnc over ssh - that i would do |
| 03:48.08 | Supaplex | I myself stick with text mode. |
| 03:48.15 | *** join/#debian thrall_ (n=thrall@195-97-236-38.onyx.net) |
| 03:48.45 | khermans__ | RichiH, mpg123 |
| 03:49.04 | khermans__ | ricky_, mpg123 |
| 03:50.08 | *** join/#debian Noboru (i=Noboru@61.188.219.225) |
| 03:50.18 | *** join/#debian BUMBACL0T (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:50.57 | ricky_ | khermans no is other name |
| 03:51.12 | ricky_ | i just can't remember it |
| 03:51.29 | *** part/#debian corp-mule (n=corp-mul@pool-71-252-157-6.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:52.11 | *** join/#debian cableroy (n=cableroy@noc.mtulink.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:52.19 | *** join/#debian robin_sz (n=robin@rapid2.gotadsl.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:52.26 | *** join/#debian elefth (n=elefth@ftp.phgroup.com) |
| 03:52.47 | *** join/#debian snail (n=syeates@syeates.oucs.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:53.17 | *** join/#debian Alam_Debian (n=Alam@c-24-62-188-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:53.34 | Supaplex | ricky_: vlc-nox mpg321 mpg123* ? |
| 03:53.41 | *** join/#debian FuzzyB (n=Peer@ip127.unival.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:54.16 | *** join/#debian ryanium (n=ryan@74-141-65-102.dhcp.insightbb.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:55.11 | *** join/#debian kintaro0e (n=kintaro0@tequilla.exist.com) |
| 03:55.11 | *** join/#debian scanf (n=bdeck@46.177.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 03:55.17 | ricky_ | supaplex no but thankx any ways i got now is sox |
| 03:55.43 | *** join/#debian MaliutaWrk (n=nikolai@fw.hitwise.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:56.37 | *** join/#debian prarage (n=prarage@221.134.6.26) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 03:59.23 | jaredj | the link you get when you tell dpkg "b*tch" is fairly interesting so far |
| 03:59.40 | jaredj | uh |
| 03:59.41 | jaredj | !botsnack |
| 03:59.42 | dpkg | :), jaredj |
| 03:59.52 | sussudio | %buttsnack |
| 03:59.52 | badgers | Man, I'd rather have a doughnut... |
| 04:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 661] by debhelper |
| 04:00.01 | jaredj | badgers? |
| 04:00.08 | jaredj | we don't need no... |
| 04:00.17 | sussudio | %fist jaredj |
| 04:00.36 | jaredj | mushroom! |
| 04:00.37 | Azar | gah.. |
| 04:00.40 | Azar | !badgers |
| 04:00.40 | dpkg | Badgers, Badgers, Badgers, Badgers, Mushroom, Mushroom, Snake !!, or make great gifts, fun for the whole family |
| 04:00.41 | badgers | dpkg: You are moron #3 |
| 04:00.41 | dpkg | badgers: what are you talking about? |
| 04:00.57 | Azar | wow badgers is a bot. |
| 04:01.02 | *** join/#debian damog (n=damog@debian/developer/damog) |
| 04:01.04 | sussudio | ... |
| 04:01.07 | jaredj | wow i wonder what the longest conversation between them could be |
| 04:01.16 | Azar | :) |
| 04:01.21 | *** join/#debian yoshio (n=yoshio@h4606a298.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 04:01.22 | *** join/#debian Faithful (n=Faithful@ns.linuxterminal.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:01.24 | jaredj | %tell dpkg about badgers |
| 04:01.32 | jaredj | !tell badgers about pls |
| 04:01.39 | *** join/#debian bruenig (n=a@69.149.81.222) |
| 04:01.44 | Supaplex | hellooOOooo bot abuse. |
| 04:01.45 | Azar | hey no fair! I want to see |
| 04:02.07 | bruenig | let's say I am creating a deb that works on any architecture, what do I put in the control file, all? |
| 04:02.08 | jaredj | meh, it didn't work anyway, no need for long vooOOOooowels |
| 04:02.20 | *** join/#debian maddash_ (n=maddash@ool-18bacd1f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:02.40 | *** join/#debian Ash-Fox (i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 04:02.57 | Azar | uh the elders aren't here to tell you bruenig |
| 04:03.05 | *** join/#debian junix-other (n=ameyer@71-11-128-177.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 04:03.29 | junix-other | is there a way to make directory hidden from users, and then make it hidden in samba? |
| 04:03.55 | jaredj | junix-other: don't let the users read or execute it |
| 04:03.57 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 04:04.02 | *** join/#debian abackos (n=irc@ip70-190-32-70.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:04.04 | jaredj | that gets you some percentage of the way there |
| 04:04.05 | junix-other | no, i can't let them see it |
| 04:04.09 | Azar | bruenig: you could start here: http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 04:04.43 | jaredj | junix-other: they need to be able to access it? |
| 04:04.47 | jaredj | but not see it? |
| 04:04.50 | *** join/#debian e-funktion (n=seemawn@dslb-084-058-169-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:04.51 | junix-other | yes |
| 04:04.55 | jaredj | bleah |
| 04:05.01 | jaredj | difficult at best |
| 04:05.13 | jaredj | i mean, for login users, just call it .something |
| 04:05.16 | jaredj | but samba won't hide that |
| 04:05.30 | bruenig | Azar, thanks, apparently you put "any" |
| 04:05.42 | jaredj | if the dir is its own share, maybe you could mess with its browsability or somesuch |
| 04:05.46 | junix-other | jaredj: it will if you don't have system folders view enabled |
| 04:06.21 | jaredj | or that, ok |
| 04:06.46 | Azar | bruenig: uh? any? |
| 04:06.47 | *** join/#debian unix_infidel_ (n=blue@adsl-68-94-1-154.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 04:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 04:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 04:07.06 | bruenig | Azar, for the architecture |
| 04:07.16 | Azar | :) ah |
| 04:08.13 | Supaplex | !nuke vista |
| 04:08.39 | predder | I've read about crappy battery life on the intel mac laptops under debian.. does anyone know if this is the case with the G4 powerpc architecture? |
| 04:08.58 | jaredj | oo yeah, good q |
| 04:09.03 | *** join/#debian mae__ (n=mae@111.63-199-71.atginternet.com) |
| 04:09.05 | jaredj | i want to know that too |
| 04:09.14 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (n=konversa@206-169-1-36.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 04:09.29 | Supaplex | predder: there are some ppc drivers that might help. poke around in modconf, see if you get lucky. :) |
| 04:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 667] by debhelper |
| 04:10.09 | jaredj | !! |
| 04:10.09 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 04:11.45 | *** join/#debian xammu (n=none@p54b3028b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:12.06 | octoberdan | What's the name given to functions whose variables persist between calls? |
| 04:12.13 | octoberdan | both in mathmatics and in programming |
| 04:12.28 | *** join/#debian philipacamaniac (n=philip@ip72-200-114-229.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:12.38 | Supaplex | constants? |
| 04:12.54 | *** part/#debian philipacamaniac (n=philip@ip72-200-114-229.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:13.00 | Supaplex | constants never are, and variables don't ;) |
| 04:13.15 | beoba | i am on a powerbook with etch. i have found that doing "sudo trackpad notap" disables "tap -> click" functionality (which is desirable), but how can i set things up such that this setting is not lost the next time i reboot? |
| 04:13.15 | jaredj | octoberdan: closures |
| 04:13.20 | octoberdan | Bingo! |
| 04:13.21 | Kevin` | octoberdan static |
| 04:13.25 | octoberdan | The name was on the tip of my tounge |
| 04:13.29 | octoberdan | jaredj: Thank you |
| 04:13.30 | *** join/#debian swa_mobil (n=swa@tuxhacker/swa) |
| 04:13.33 | jaredj | :D |
| 04:13.37 | octoberdan | Kevin`: and thank you for trying ;-) |
| 04:13.43 | Kevin` | =p |
| 04:14.45 | jaredj | beoba: put "trackpad notap" in /etc/rc.local |
| 04:14.54 | Kevin` | lisp will twist your mind |
| 04:15.10 | jaredj | beoba: (assuming dpkg-reconfigure trackpad doesn't have anything directly useful) |
| 04:15.18 | octoberdan | Kevin`: It has! And I'm loving it. |
| 04:15.19 | jaredj | lispers will lart you |
| 04:15.23 | beoba | i'll try the second, then the first |
| 04:15.27 | jaredj | *nod* |
| 04:15.41 | jaredj | i like haskell twisting better than lisp twisting. |
| 04:15.43 | *** join/#debian IRCArch (n=IRCArch@81.171.111.142) |
| 04:15.50 | jaredj | the lisp people hated me as soon as i said 'scheme' |
| 04:15.57 | *** join/#debian iswm (n=iswm@unaffiliated/iswm) |
| 04:16.02 | jaredj | but i, in turn, think lisp macros are not a great idea |
| 04:16.12 | beoba | looks like trackpad comes with powerpc-utils, reconfigure has nothin', will do rc.local |
| 04:16.17 | jaredj | (those being the biggest thing lisp has that scheme doesn't) |
| 04:16.23 | jaredj | beoba: k cool |
| 04:16.37 | Supaplex | or crontab @reboot |
| 04:17.26 | beoba | out of curiosity, does debian have some utility similar to gentoo's "rc-update" which handles activation/deactivation of boot scripts? |
| 04:18.01 | Supaplex | update-rc.d |
| 04:18.19 | beoba | oh neat |
| 04:18.31 | beoba | yeah that's something i'd always been curious about but never got around to looking into |
| 04:18.35 | jaredj | i so don't use that |
| 04:18.51 | Supaplex | dpkg -S bin/update- :) |
| 04:18.51 | dpkg | There is no record of a bin/update- :) package |
| 04:18.57 | beoba | i like its "not really" flag |
| 04:19.12 | beoba | -n: not really |
| 04:19.19 | predder | beoba, your powerbook is a powerpc architecture right? Any complaints under etch? |
| 04:19.28 | beoba | predder: i found a crash in xorg |
| 04:19.35 | jaredj | eek |
| 04:19.36 | beoba | if usefbdev is true |
| 04:19.38 | *** join/#debian bobbyz (i=bobbyz@c-75-70-235-108.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 04:19.39 | beoba | to fix, comment that out |
| 04:19.47 | beoba | i emailed the bug manager thing a few minutes ago |
| 04:19.50 | beoba | other than that its neat |
| 04:20.02 | beoba | ive noticed that it now detects when i've closed the lid, because the lcd blanks |
| 04:20.18 | beoba | however, if i tell gnome's battery applet that i want to hibernate, that leads to a crash |
| 04:20.18 | predder | cool, yeah I'm worried about battery life primarily |
| 04:20.24 | beoba | sleep doesn't appear to do anything at all |
| 04:20.48 | *** join/#debian bathat (n=bathat@c-67-167-131-134.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:20.48 | beoba | but it at least knows when the lid is being shut, and that's more than it could do before (recently went ubuntu->debian since they're dropping ppc support) |
| 04:20.49 | predder | from what i've read hibernate (suspend ram to disk) doesn't work.. sleeping should work though |
| 04:21.03 | *** part/#debian helfrez (n=helfrez@166-82-112-51.quickclick.ctc.net) |
| 04:21.07 | beoba | i havent tested it extensively, just tried giving it the command and having nothing happen |
| 04:21.17 | beoba | i'll try it RIGHT NOW |
| 04:21.48 | predder | *beoba has left (Ping Timeout) |
| 04:22.44 | jaredj | predder: hehehe |
| 04:22.51 | beoba | okay, so doing suspend did the following: screen did pretty fade to black, then a password screen, then nothing happened. after i enter my password, i notice that the wireless had been disconnected and have to manually tell it to reconnect (via the applet) |
| 04:22.58 | *** join/#debian beoba (n=aoeu@CPE-65-30-59-163.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 04:23.02 | beoba | okay, so doing suspend did the following: screen did pretty fade to black, then a password screen, then nothing happened. after i enter my password, i notice that the wireless had been disconnected and have to manually tell it to reconnect (via the applet) |
| 04:23.32 | beoba | (it tries to reconnect but is unsuccessful in doing so but manually selecting the network in the list gets it to work) |
| 04:23.32 | *** join/#debian lunitik (n=fearl@ip68-230-79-95.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:23.54 | beoba | oh also i get a little message window that says "your computer was not able to suspend" |
| 04:24.01 | beoba | provides an FAQ link to.. |
| 04:24.10 | beoba | here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-power-manager/faq.html |
| 04:24.15 | predder | cool, thanks for the feedback :) |
| 04:24.18 | *** join/#debian mae__ (n=mae@111.63-199-71.atginternet.com) |
| 04:24.25 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (n=konversa@206-169-1-36.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 04:24.28 | kingsley | Should anything be written to a log file, such as /var/log/messages, when daylight savings time goes into effect? |
| 04:24.30 | *** part/#debian bruenig (n=a@69.149.81.222) |
| 04:24.44 | beoba | are there any log files i should be looking at? |
| 04:24.46 | jaredj | kingsley: i doubt it |
| 04:25.38 | jaredj | kingsley: i think the only thing that changes when dst goes into effect is what time the C library tells you it is |
| 04:25.43 | *** join/#debian JuNiOx (i=WaGNUx@200-171-164-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 04:26.03 | jaredj | kingsley: in other words, i don't think the kernel changes its idea of what time it is |
| 04:26.18 | jaredj | having said that i don't know if it's useful |
| 04:26.27 | kingsley | jaredj: Perhaps I can look for a jump in times logged to /var/log/messages. |
| 04:26.31 | *** join/#debian DarkGhost (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 04:26.35 | jaredj | kingsley: that you can. |
| 04:26.52 | jaredj | if nothing's happening, you will probably still get --MARK-- messages from crond at least every hour |
| 04:29.49 | kingsley | jaredj: I'm happy to report that I found it in /var/log/messages. As you say, normally --MARK-- lines are about 20 minutes apart, but when DST changed, they were 71 minutes apart. |
| 04:29.53 | *** join/#debian \amethyst (n=neil@74-140-178-145.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 04:29.57 | jaredj | cool |
| 04:32.03 | *** join/#debian delire (n=delire@r83h217.res.gatech.edu) |
| 04:34.47 | *** join/#debian Langly1 (i=Langly@c-67-160-190-36.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 04:34.59 | Langly1 | Damned mother of all heisenbugs |
| 04:35.01 | Langly1 | installed debian 10 times on the same machine now trying to solve something, problem RADICALY changes every time, sometimes even get options during install I dont get other times |
| 04:35.04 | Langly1 | like once it let me pick my kernel I wanted on the install, and other times it didnt |
| 04:35.07 | beoba | r u dum? gawd |
| 04:35.19 | beoba | best line ever -^ |
| 04:35.25 | Langly1 | some data corruption problem so far |
| 04:35.27 | beoba | er, move that arrow to the left |
| 04:36.02 | Supaplex | !debsums |
| 04:36.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debsums is a package that will check a packages files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will cause it to check config files. |
| 04:36.38 | Supaplex | Langly1: what kind of hardware are you using? has it been tested in some other way? |
| 04:36.53 | Langly1 | some of the times its a respawning to many times issue, but never the same thing, other times its a kernel panic due to other reasons |
| 04:36.56 | Langly1 | Alpha |
| 04:37.02 | Langly1 | and I had windows NT on it for awhile |
| 04:37.11 | delire | what's the best means (openoffice aside) for converting HTML to PDF these days? |
| 04:37.28 | Supaplex | delire: print to postscript, ps2pdf |
| 04:37.34 | Supaplex | any browser you like. |
| 04:37.37 | Langly1 | Cant find the cause, bug changes with every reinstall, seems to randomly mess up one file each time |
| 04:37.41 | delire | Supaplex: cheers. good call. |
| 04:37.44 | *** join/#debian jimpop (n=jimpop@c-76-17-105-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:37.44 | Langly1 | last time was more definitive |
| 04:38.00 | Langly1 | got a decompression error and showed the file was corrupt |
| 04:38.36 | *** join/#debian SportChick (n=essy@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick) |
| 04:38.43 | Langly1 | Ill have to mess with it later, im fed up for now |
| 04:38.46 | Supaplex | Langly1: can you test the hardware somehow? is it interchangeable in anyway with an x86 machine? |
| 04:38.55 | Supaplex | eg, ram, pci cards etc. |
| 04:39.25 | *** join/#debian maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 04:39.26 | Langly1 | some of it is, but all the stuff like that I already know is good heh |
| 04:39.40 | Langly1 | nic is onboard |
| 04:39.48 | *** part/#debian bobbyz (i=bobbyz@c-75-70-235-108.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 04:39.53 | Langly1 | which could possibly be the problem |
| 04:40.14 | Langly1 | Ive got more tests to run, just damned tired now lol |
| 04:40.31 | \amethyst | Langly1: sounds more like a problem with RAM, disk, or the disk controller |
| 04:40.32 | Supaplex | I'd toss a request at the mailing list for alpha specific help. try to isolate the problem instead of blindly retrying so frequently :) |
| 04:40.35 | Langly1 | ill use a dif nic later, already of dif cd-rom and a reburn of the cd |
| 04:41.06 | Langly1 | Supaplex I change one variable every time |
| 04:41.11 | DarkGhost | Think I'll survive a bungee jump off a bridge using 5 200ft CAT-5 cables? |
| 04:41.21 | Langly1 | working towards isolating the problem |
| 04:41.34 | *** join/#debian maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 04:41.38 | *** join/#debian lowlevel (n=Stuart@CPE000e0c057fad-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:41.48 | \amethyst | DarkGhost: not if it's a 180ft bridge :) |
| 04:42.16 | Langly1 | those wont have much strech, might be a quick stop |
| 04:42.29 | Supaplex | DarkGhost: so whos the first dummy to test it? |
| 04:42.39 | DarkGhost | A crash test dummy |
| 04:42.46 | DarkGhost | If I get my hands on one |
| 04:43.22 | *** join/#debian batrick (i=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 04:43.59 | DarkGhost | I call it "Showing the Power of the Network" |
| 04:44.25 | DarkGhost | maybe CAT-5s will be used by rescuers all over the world |
| 04:44.28 | maddash | yay!! I successfully built tor from source on solaris! |
| 04:44.43 | *** join/#debian domster (n=dominics@125-238-112-64.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) |
| 04:45.33 | *** join/#debian disputin (n=sean@c-71-236-250-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:45.47 | maddash | Azar: why? |
| 04:45.53 | Azar | limiting |
| 04:46.18 | Azar | I usually like to see at least three more options along with Yes or No buttons |
| 04:46.46 | Azar | a "maybe", "alternate", "you go ahead and suggest".. |
| 04:47.31 | Azar | it looks like the cli installer offered more options.. |
| 04:47.39 | maddash | err ok |
| 04:48.07 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.67.68) |
| 04:48.17 | Azar | you know whats my horror? the partition ... last time I tried on Sarge, I flunked |
| 04:48.41 | Azar | so I guess I'll be doing the installation with assistance from here.. |
| 04:49.08 | Azar | or install as many times until I get it right |
| 04:49.28 | maddash | wow this solaris server i running over 50 instances of sshd |
| 04:49.34 | maddash | s/i/is/ |
| 04:49.55 | Azar | must get big tips today |
| 04:49.55 | *** join/#debian MidgetSpy (n=MidgetSp@herstal.wolfeden.ca) |
| 04:50.24 | MidgetSpy | hey all, can you guys recommend a good HTTP proxy that is available from the repository? |
| 04:50.24 | *** join/#debian Bjoern-Erik (n=unknown@250.80-202-105.nextgentel.com) |
| 04:50.28 | maddash | darn - "/bin/netstat: Permission denied" |
| 04:50.35 | maddash | MidgetSpy: privoxy |
| 04:50.42 | maddash | MidgetSpy: privoxy/tor |
| 04:50.55 | MidgetSpy | proxy server I should say |
| 04:50.56 | maddash | oh wait, am I going to buy it for mentioning tor? |
| 04:51.05 | mezmiro | Is anyone in here good with codecs, or knows a good IRC chan (maybe an encoding chan) to go to? |
| 04:51.25 | maddash | !tell mezmiro about ask |
| 04:51.34 | mezmiro | I'm trying to get .mkv files to run ^_^. |
| 04:52.11 | Azar | you got the plugins for it from your player's site? |
| 04:52.30 | maddash | I think mplayer supports it |
| 04:52.57 | mezmiro | Yeah I've been looking around and codecs aren't the easiest thing to find for me. I'll try that maddash :) |
| 04:54.28 | *** join/#debian jack_wyt (n=jack@218.18.191.92) |
| 04:54.38 | *** join/#debian illwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 04:54.46 | illwolf | hiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 04:54.47 | mezmiro | Wow...so I did an apt-get install mplayer, but I get tons of dependencies which aren't installable.. |
| 04:54.49 | illwolf | !pastebin |
| 04:54.50 | dpkg | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or if you want to upload an entire file, you can use http://pastebin.ca/upload.php, or or pipe your output to curl -i# -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=`whoami` -F paste=Send http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php | grep '^Loc' |
| 04:55.17 | maddash | hmm, how do i get a certain process to persist in the remote system after i close my ssh connection to there? |
| 04:55.46 | \amethyst | maddash: nohup |
| 04:55.48 | jaredj | maddash: you probably wantt nohup |
| 04:55.56 | illwolf | OK |
| 04:56.00 | illwolf | http://pastebin.ca/395620 |
| 04:56.10 | *** join/#debian DaveLib (n=user@CPE000fb535cb3b-CM0012c90d2ad6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:56.12 | illwolf | can any tell me what i did wrong? i cant load my newer kernel? |
| 04:56.17 | maddash | !nohyp |
| 04:56.32 | maddash | !nohup |
| 04:57.24 | maddash | oh, silly me. |
| 04:57.32 | *** join/#debian subir (n=subir@202.79.37.177) |
| 04:57.55 | jaredj | illwolf: installing the kernel gets the files in place and configures everything. but you must then boot the kernel. this involves restarting. |
| 04:57.55 | illwolf | hello? |
| 04:58.01 | mezmiro | hmm...well I did upgrade from sarge to the latest version...could that be my issue? It says that if I"m using the unstable version some required packages have not yet been created / moved out of Incoming. |
| 04:58.04 | illwolf | yes |
| 04:58.08 | illwolf | jaredj |
| 04:58.13 | jaredj | that's me |
| 04:58.18 | maddash | \amethyst:, jaredj: thank you. |
| 04:58.22 | jaredj | np |
| 04:58.24 | illwolf | i didnt reboot and it booted to my 2.6.18 |
| 04:58.36 | illwolf | and i installed 2.6.19.7 |
| 04:58.40 | jaredj | wait. you didn't reboot? |
| 04:58.43 | illwolf | i did |
| 04:58.46 | illwolf | 3 friggen times |
| 04:58.47 | jaredj | ah. |
| 04:58.52 | illwolf | *did |
| 04:58.55 | jaredj | k |
| 04:59.03 | illwolf | well? |
| 04:59.03 | jaredj | is the new one on the menu? |
| 04:59.14 | jaredj | well what? have a bit of patience. |
| 04:59.14 | illwolf | wheres the menu? |
| 04:59.17 | illwolf | ok |
| 04:59.18 | jaredj | at boot time |
| 04:59.24 | illwolf | noe |
| 04:59.26 | illwolf | *Nope |
| 04:59.26 | maddash | !tell illwolf about grub |
| 04:59.33 | illwolf | dude wtf? |
| 04:59.36 | Azar | mezmiro: any reason to moving to the "latest" version? |
| 04:59.37 | illwolf | i know what grub is |
| 04:59.54 | mezmiro | Someone in #alsa asked me to..said something about it fixing my sound issues..hehe ^^; |
| 04:59.58 | maddash | illwolf: I assume a) you're using grub and b) you have no idea of what /boot/grub/menu.lst is |
| 05:00.08 | Azar | mezmiro: they lied to you |
| 05:00.11 | mezmiro | -_- |
| 05:00.16 | illwolf | he said menu he didnt say menu for what. |
| 05:00.29 | mezmiro | I've been hosed. So! Can I downgrade? x.x; |
| 05:00.29 | jaredj | yes yes, it's the menu.lst |
| 05:00.33 | mezmiro | to sarge that is. |
| 05:00.39 | illwolf | ahh huh |
| 05:00.44 | illwolf | i get it one sec. |
| 05:00.48 | Azar | mezmiro: now your only way is to reinstall Sarge (the stable) or Etch (the testing). whichever you like |
| 05:00.53 | *** join/#debian oa_ (n=oa@AMontsouris-151-1-70-112.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:00.59 | mezmiro | Yeah I upgraded to etch.. |
| 05:01.14 | Azar | mezmiro: you said you upgraded to the latest |
| 05:01.36 | mezmiro | Pretty much what he said to do was to replace "sarge" in my sources.list with "etch" and do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:01.44 | *** join/#debian Dr_zwaffelen (n=gimp@adsl-11-128-27.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:01.48 | illwolf | jaredj http://pastebin.ca/395624 |
| 05:02.02 | Azar | <mezmiro> ... I"m using the unstable version ... ? |
| 05:02.07 | mezmiro | He was saying that's how you upgrade, or something to that effect ^_^; |
| 05:02.12 | jaredj | illwolf: that's it? |
| 05:02.44 | *** join/#debian Cholito_ (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 05:02.47 | Azar | mezmiro: apt-get install aptitude then aptitude update, aptitude upgrade |
| 05:02.49 | jaredj | meh so anyway you want to add another stanza to it, that follows the pattern of lines 8-12 |
| 05:02.50 | mezmiro | Azar: That's what apt-get install mplayer popped up with. |
| 05:02.59 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:03.01 | Tobsn | block all -- anywhere anywhere |
| 05:03.12 | Tobsn | how can i remove such a iptables chain? |
| 05:03.16 | Azar | mezmiro: after that try again : aptitude install mplayer |
| 05:03.29 | *** join/#debian Wiz (n=ricardo@190.50.155.12) |
| 05:03.31 | maddash | jaredj: is his custom kernel installed properly? otherwise, it should show up in grub. |
| 05:03.31 | jaredj | illwolf: stanza, meaning group of lines in this case |
| 05:03.43 | *** join/#debian delire_ (n=delire@r83h217.res.gatech.edu) |
| 05:03.54 | jaredj | maddash: did you see the paste? it doesn't look debian-grubby. no magic comments. |
| 05:04.00 | illwolf | yes so what do i edit? |
| 05:04.07 | jaredj | edit the menu.lst |
| 05:04.10 | jaredj | that you pasted |
| 05:04.34 | illwolf | ok |
| 05:04.38 | jaredj | copy lines 8-12 |
| 05:04.42 | jaredj | paste before line 8 |
| 05:04.53 | jaredj | replace versions as necessary |
| 05:05.11 | mezmiro | Azar: This was the output, pretty much the same result. http://channels.debian.net/paste/5718 |
| 05:05.16 | maddash | jaredj: yes, I was trying to ignore that. |
| 05:05.31 | jaredj | maddash: heh? |
| 05:05.35 | maddash | illwolf: what's the name of your kernel? |
| 05:05.37 | *** part/#debian catbo1 (n=catbot@59.42.176.138) |
| 05:05.58 | maddash | illwolf: `ls -l /boot/*[name or kernel]*` |
| 05:06.31 | Azar | mezmiro: when you commit to a dist-upgrade you have to update ALL your sources to the next version, I see you still got stable there ? |
| 05:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 05:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 05:07.05 | mezmiro | Yeah ^_^ |
| 05:07.10 | Azar | mezmiro: you cannot have "mixed" versions in your sources, is apple or eggs.... but not both |
| 05:07.26 | illwolf | maddsh |
| 05:07.26 | mezmiro | So I need to replace every stable with etch? |
| 05:07.26 | illwolf | vmlinuz-2.6.19.7 |
| 05:07.33 | mezmiro | Will that fix my dependency issues? Or is there some drawback to it? |
| 05:07.35 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 05:07.36 | jaredj | mm apply eggs |
| 05:07.44 | Azar | mezmiro: yes, then use "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 05:07.49 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 05:07.50 | illwolf | brb |
| 05:08.11 | Tobsn | block all -- anywhere anywhere |
| 05:08.12 | Tobsn | how can i remove such a iptables chain? |
| 05:08.15 | Tobsn | someone? |
| 05:08.30 | jaredj | Tobsn: iptables -D INPUT 8 |
| 05:08.36 | jaredj | where 8 is the line number of the block rule |
| 05:08.44 | jaredj | and INPUT is the name of the chain you want it out of |
| 05:09.03 | jaredj | alternatively, iptables -D INPUT -s anywhere -d anywhere -j block |
| 05:09.06 | *** part/#debian Wiz (n=ricardo@190.50.155.12) |
| 05:09.11 | Supaplex | or use iptables-save > foo ; edit foo, iptables-restore < foo |
| 05:09.15 | jaredj | (i.e., specify the rule completely, and you needn't count lines) |
| 05:09.25 | jaredj | Supaplex: cheater! ;) |
| 05:09.38 | Supaplex | hey, it works. :P |
| 05:09.54 | jaredj | t. t |
| 05:09.57 | Azar | mezmiro: after you dist upgrade, if you use a kernel less than 2.6.17, upgrade your kernel to 2.6.18 with "aptitude install linux-xxxxx.xxxx.xxx-xxxx" whatever 2.6.18 for your cpu architecture. |
| 05:10.18 | maddash | jaredj: his custom kernel is missing the initrd.img-*, among other things. |
| 05:10.19 | Tobsn | hmm i think i need just 2mins of your time |
| 05:10.35 | jaredj | maddash: missing from /boot? |
| 05:10.50 | mezmiro | Hmm okay. |
| 05:10.57 | *** part/#debian DaveLib (n=user@CPE000fb535cb3b-CM0012c90d2ad6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:11.03 | jaredj | Tobsn: 00:11 CDT |
| 05:11.07 | maddash | jaredj: yes. |
| 05:11.23 | mezmiro | Do I need the debian security server on aptitude to go through right now? |
| 05:11.36 | mezmiro | As in, is it essential for the dist-upgrade or kernel upgrade? |
| 05:11.36 | jaredj | maddash: troubling. i thought it was supposed to be constructed by the package's scripts? |
| 05:11.51 | *** join/#debian PhilKC (i=greece@freenode/staff/about.linux.philkc) |
| 05:12.08 | *** join/#debian illwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 05:12.12 | illwolf | yay worked/. |
| 05:12.16 | Tobsn | jabular |
| 05:12.17 | illwolf | also i get this error |
| 05:12.17 | Tobsn | http://nopaste.info/3386a21028.html |
| 05:12.23 | mezmiro | aptitude is saying it can't find the directory on the security server, but can I just fix that later once I update the distro and the kernel? |
| 05:12.23 | illwolf | illwolf@mit[/usr/src]$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| 05:12.23 | illwolf | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs' |
| 05:12.33 | Tobsn | i want that :80 is open for http |
| 05:12.35 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:12.57 | *** join/#debian n3kl (n=n3kl@65-102-207-196.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 05:13.13 | maddash | wow, I'm so fscking badass |
| 05:13.14 | Tobsn | jaredj, i meant not jabular hehe |
| 05:13.29 | jaredj | yeh took me a minute :) |
| 05:13.39 | illwolf | illwolf@mit[/usr/src]$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| 05:13.39 | illwolf | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs' |
| 05:13.43 | illwolf | why? |
| 05:13.46 | Tobsn | and? |
| 05:13.47 | Tobsn | hehe |
| 05:13.53 | mezmiro | mmmmm ntfs cookies |
| 05:13.57 | illwolf | btw thanx jaredj |
| 05:14.01 | illwolf | Linux mit.gov.tr 2.6.19.7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 15 03:17:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/L |
| 05:14.06 | jaredj | illwolf: np |
| 05:14.14 | illwolf | work'ed i forgot to edit the menu.lst |
| 05:14.24 | illwolf | but now i cant mount filesystem ntfs ? |
| 05:14.39 | *** join/#debian pokharel (n=pokharel@202.79.37.177) |
| 05:14.46 | *** join/#debian delire__ (n=delire@lawn-128-61-116-246.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 05:14.55 | *** join/#debian pstickne (n=pstickne@c-71-236-176-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:14.57 | Gnea | !ntfs |
| 05:14.57 | dpkg | from memory, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. Start reading at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/. For the kernel driver, you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html or ask me about <ntfsrw>, <ntfs-3g> or <captiventfs> ... the latter is obsoletish. |
| 05:15.27 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:15.36 | mezmiro | mmm confusing |
| 05:15.37 | Gnea | ! |
| 05:15.44 | jaredj | Tobsn: copy line 07, make the dport 80. you may want to specify a destination address (-d). |
| 05:15.52 | illwolf | i dont think i have the moulde |
| 05:16.37 | Gnea | what's a moulde? |
| 05:16.37 | jaredj | Tobsn: iptables -L -v can be instructive |
| 05:16.37 | mezmiro | It's something you make pots out of |
| 05:16.37 | mezmiro | and whatnot |
| 05:16.38 | jaredj | gnea: you know, loadable kernel mouldes |
| 05:16.38 | mezmiro | :D |
| 05:16.38 | jaredj | :) |
| 05:16.38 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 05:16.39 | *** join/#debian Galga (n=HoneyPot@about/philosophy/galga) |
| 05:16.56 | Gnea | illwolf: well for starters, you're not mounting it as root |
| 05:16.59 | n3kl | Hi. If I run tls to smtp with plain auth, are authentications encrypted? |
| 05:17.06 | illwolf | really? |
| 05:17.10 | illwolf | wtf is sudo then |
| 05:17.12 | jaredj | Tobsn: and iptables -Z. -Z zeroes the counts, -L -v shows the counts of packets matching certain rules |
| 05:17.25 | jaredj | Tobsn: this shows you which rules are getting hit and which not. |
| 05:17.29 | Gnea | !sudo |
| 05:17.30 | dpkg | i guess sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 05:17.34 | *** join/#debian Yggdrasil (n=Son_Of_O@c-68-35-117-150.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 05:17.37 | *** join/#debian Leibsle (n=dieter@unaffiliated/leibsle) |
| 05:17.45 | illwolf | root@mit[/usr/src]# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| 05:17.45 | illwolf | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs' |
| 05:17.50 | illwolf | same thing? |
| 05:18.04 | jaredj | Tobsn: dropping all output packets is probably not very productive. |
| 05:18.04 | Yggdrasil | any way to make an ssh session run a script after a certain time of inactivity? |
| 05:18.18 | Gnea | illwolf: locate ntfs.ko <-- any results? |
| 05:18.18 | maddash | cron? |
| 05:18.24 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 05:18.24 | Yggdrasil | hmm |
| 05:18.33 | jaredj | Tobsn: i always use -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; the only reason not to that i know of is if you want to mitigate damage if this box gets pwned |
| 05:18.38 | Yggdrasil | like a screen saver type thing, i want my ssh sessions to run cmatrix. |
| 05:18.40 | illwolf | Gnea nope |
| 05:18.43 | Azar | mezmiro: sorry I have no clue about ntfs in Debian |
| 05:18.48 | Azar | helly mr Gnea :) |
| 05:18.54 | jaredj | Tobsn: you could be admitting the input packets and denying the corresponding output packets |
| 05:19.13 | Gnea | illwolf: how about: updatedb && locate ntfs.ko |
| 05:19.19 | Gnea | Azar: good evening :) |
| 05:19.20 | mezmiro | Hmm...so the aptitude upgrade is running smoothly so far. |
| 05:19.30 | Tobsn | :OUTPUT ACCEPT [12:836] |
| 05:19.30 | Tobsn | and |
| 05:19.34 | Tobsn | -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 05:19.36 | Gnea | illwolf: it's possible that you didn't compile any support for ntfs with your kernel |
| 05:19.41 | Tobsn | doesnt make :80 open :( |
| 05:19.43 | illwolf | i sure did |
| 05:19.46 | Tobsn | or better |
| 05:19.47 | Azar | mezmiro: aptitude is recommended when you do such a big upgrade in the system, is cleaning up junk |
| 05:19.53 | illwolf | so i got to do it againnnnnnnNN? |
| 05:19.53 | Tobsn | i dont get response on 80 |
| 05:19.56 | Gnea | illwolf: then try this: cat /proc/filesystems | grep ntfs |
| 05:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 674] by debhelper |
| 05:20.01 | mezmiro | I am planning on getting a 2gb Cruzer thumbdrive though. Do you think I would be able to use the thumbdrive on both windows and linux? |
| 05:20.13 | illwolf | Gnea Nothing |
| 05:20.15 | mezmiro | I'm not sure if I would have to install some special kernel module for fat32 read/write or something. |
| 05:20.20 | Gnea | mezmiro: easily |
| 05:20.21 | maddash | Gnea: I bet illwolf forgot to compile in NTFS support |
| 05:20.24 | pstickne | mezmiro, easiest way it to just use FAT32 on the drive and sure, it'll work peachy fine |
| 05:20.28 | mezmiro | :) Awesome Azar, I was wondering that. |
| 05:20.28 | Gnea | maddash: yeah |
| 05:20.32 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: hmm, (while true; idletime=$(w | grep $TTY | awk 'LOTSOFSTUFF'); if [ "$idletime" -gt 600 ]; then cmatrix; fi) & |
| 05:20.33 | illwolf | nah |
| 05:20.34 | Azar | mezmiro: I never did dual boot, I took my windows out completely, installed Debian and dealt with since |
| 05:20.34 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:20.38 | maddash | Gnea: make menuconfig. lol. |
| 05:20.42 | Yggdrasil | jarejd |
| 05:20.43 | Yggdrasil | whoa |
| 05:20.44 | Gnea | illwolf: is your source in /usr/src/ ? |
| 05:20.45 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: except how do you quit cmatrix? :) |
| 05:20.46 | mezmiro | hmm okay. Oh, and is that myth about taking the flash drive out before unmounting it true? o.o |
| 05:20.52 | illwolf | Gnea but i removed it |
| 05:20.57 | illwolf | also |
| 05:20.58 | Gnea | illwolf: bad move. |
| 05:21.06 | Gnea | hrm |
| 05:21.09 | Yggdrasil | jaredj -s |
| 05:21.09 | illwolf | whould it be a good idea to install kernel 2.6.20 |
| 05:21.12 | mezmiro | Hmm okay Azar. My thing is my college workstations and laptops run windows so I need to exchange files between the two. |
| 05:21.13 | Yggdrasil | makes it stop |
| 05:21.14 | illwolf | Hnea why a bad move? |
| 05:21.15 | pstickne | mezmiro, there is no guarentee that they have written all the data; remove a drive while it might be written to could lead to corruption |
| 05:21.20 | illwolf | *Gnea. |
| 05:21.25 | Gnea | illwolf: do you have a /proc/config.gz file? |
| 05:21.31 | pstickne | mezmiro, this doesn't change my OS; there is always some lag (both buffers and actually hardware) |
| 05:21.34 | illwolf | let me check |
| 05:21.38 | Azar | mezmiro: I am totally out here... can't help with dual boot, maybe one of the many using that in this channel can help you further |
| 05:21.48 | illwolf | Gnea yeah i do |
| 05:21.49 | jaredj | Tobsn: could you jaredj: me? i only just saw what you said |
| 05:21.54 | Gnea | illwolf: a) it's difficult to troubleshoot b) it's impossible to do a simple revent - you have to start over |
| 05:21.55 | mezmiro | So as long as there isn't data being written it's fine? Or do computers tend to do some sort of a read/write routine to check if the drive is active anyways? |
| 05:21.57 | Azar | .... like..hmmm Gnea ? |
| 05:22.03 | Tobsn | ah k |
| 05:22.04 | illwolf | ok |
| 05:22.13 | pstickne | mezmiro, as long as there is no data to be written to, there is no problem unplugging it |
| 05:22.16 | illwolf | but i do have a Config.gz |
| 05:22.19 | Gnea | illwolf: at least you did something right ;) try this: zgrep -i ntfs /proc/config.gz any results? |
| 05:22.27 | Tobsn | jabular :OUTPUT ACCEPT [12:836] and -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT doesnt make :80 open :( - or better i dont get response on 80 |
| 05:22.28 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 05:22.33 | pstickne | mezmiro, but the only way to be SURE is to have the host OS stop writing to it and flush the buffers |
| 05:22.38 | Azar | :) mister pstickne good evening, and thanks :0 |
| 05:22.41 | mezmiro | Ahh. |
| 05:22.43 | illwolf | root@mit[/proc]# zgrep -i ntfs /proc/config.gz |
| 05:22.44 | illwolf | # CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set |
| 05:22.44 | jaredj | Tobsn: lol |
| 05:22.46 | Yggdrasil | jaredj is that a cmd or a script or a something else ? |
| 05:22.52 | Tobsn | yeah im bad with that network shit |
| 05:23.07 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: a command |
| 05:23.07 | Gnea | illwolf: thank you, drive through. you need to reconfigure your kernel and recompile it with ntfs support. |
| 05:23.21 | illwolf | aight |
| 05:23.30 | illwolf | but is it a good idea to use 2.6.20 ? |
| 05:23.30 | pstickne | hello Azar :p |
| 05:23.36 | jaredj | Tobsn: did the port 80 rule go in the right place though? it needs to be before the -A INPUT -j block |
| 05:23.37 | Gnea | illwolf: i have this: CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m |
| 05:23.43 | Gnea | CONFIG_NTFS_RW=y |
| 05:23.49 | Yggdrasil | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)' |
| 05:23.54 | illwolf | k |
| 05:23.59 | maddash | Gnea: ntfs RW? read-write? |
| 05:24.03 | pstickne | Gnea, lsmod ftw ^^ |
| 05:24.03 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: incomplete, as you can see: i don't know off the cuff what LOTSOFSTUFF is, nor whether $TTY is the right var |
| 05:24.09 | Gnea | illwolf: i only use what's in debian - if it's straight from kernel.org then we don't support it. |
| 05:24.10 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 05:24.15 | Yggdrasil | ahhh gotcha |
| 05:24.25 | Gnea | pstickne: fuck the world? don't think so. |
| 05:24.57 | Gnea | maddash: yeah |
| 05:24.58 | Tobsn | yep its before the drop |
| 05:24.59 | *** join/#debian indraveni (n=indraven@203.129.255.181) |
| 05:25.06 | Tobsn | did i have to restart some daemon or something? |
| 05:25.13 | indraveni | hi, can I get help in configuring mailman in debian |
| 05:25.20 | illwolf | will it be a GOOD idea to install linux-2.6.20.tar.gz 04-Feb-2007 18:59 52M ? |
| 05:25.21 | maddash | Gnea: doesn't the kernel module only support RO at this time? |
| 05:25.32 | Gnea | indraveni: not if you ask for it. you need to tell us what the problem is. |
| 05:25.37 | pstickne | Gnea, free the walruses! ^^ |
| 05:25.45 | Gnea | maddash: essentially |
| 05:25.47 | indraveni | Gnea, yes i will explain |
| 05:25.48 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:25.53 | mezmiro | Hmm Azar, do I want to download the linux image? I'm looking at this right now: kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp |
| 05:25.59 | indraveni | Gnea, my mailman page is displaying a line like To post a message to all the list members, send email to boss-users@boss.boss |
| 05:26.04 | illwolf | Gnea is it a good idea to install linux-2.6.20.tar.gz ? |
| 05:26.06 | *** join/#debian basantashrestha (n=basanta@202.79.37.177) |
| 05:26.11 | *** join/#debian daya (n=daya@202.79.37.177) |
| 05:26.11 | Azar | mezmiro: the 2.6.8 is too low for Etch |
| 05:26.12 | Gnea | illwolf: depends on your definition of a 'good idea' |
| 05:26.14 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@87-205-43-246.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 05:26.19 | illwolf | i mean |
| 05:26.22 | illwolf | stable? |
| 05:26.31 | illwolf | ans secured. |
| 05:26.32 | indraveni | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.32 | mezmiro | hmm..3.1? |
| 05:26.34 | illwolf | *and. |
| 05:27.01 | jaredj | Tobsn: if you made the change with the iptables command it took effect immediately |
| 05:27.07 | Azar | mezmiro: apt-cache search linux-image see which arch fits you better and pick a 2.6.18 for it. then aptitude install linux-image-xxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxx < the line you found suitable for you ona 2.6.18 |
| 05:27.31 | jaredj | Tobsn: could you paste[bin] an iptables -L -v? |
| 05:27.37 | Gnea | illwolf: again, 2.6.20 has not been debianized yet, so we simply can't support it yet. you CAN install it, and if it works for you, great. |
| 05:27.48 | illwolf | k |
| 05:27.49 | Gnea | illwolf: it's only going to be as secure as you make it. |
| 05:27.53 | Azar | mezmiro: I assume you have updated your sources.list to "etch" for all of them, updated, upgraded, and dist-upgraded and now you have Etch ??? |
| 05:27.54 | Gnea | that's just... how it is |
| 05:27.58 | Gnea | :) |
| 05:28.11 | mezmiro | O! I forgot the dist-upgrade....duh |
| 05:28.12 | Azar | mezmiro: did you? |
| 05:28.20 | Azar | ok then do it |
| 05:28.22 | Gnea | illwolf: i have a good feeling that you will be able to make it work right :) |
| 05:28.32 | illwolf | Gnea lies. |
| 05:28.42 | mezmiro | -_- |
| 05:28.50 | Tobsn | jabular http://nopaste.info/e2f03e4815.html |
| 05:28.52 | Tobsn | jaredj http://nopaste.info/e2f03e4815.html |
| 05:28.55 | *** join/#debian amol (n=amol@203.129.255.178) |
| 05:28.58 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 05:28.59 | Gnea | illwolf: prove it LMFAO!!! |
| 05:29.06 | mezmiro | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libfam0c102: Conflicts: libfam0 but 2.7.0-12 is to be installed. |
| 05:29.11 | indraveni | Gnea, from where this is fetching boss-users@boss.boss as my mail domain is bosslinux.in but not boss.boss |
| 05:29.14 | mezmiro | geeze |
| 05:29.15 | amol | hi to all |
| 05:29.18 | amol | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.20 | mezmiro | heyo amol :) |
| 05:29.24 | illwolf | Gnea haha cant.. |
| 05:29.40 | amol | mezmiro,hi |
| 05:29.42 | Gnea | indraveni: i'm not sure, i haven't ever installed mailman.. someone else might know... |
| 05:29.51 | mezmiro | Yeah I edited sources.list, and the only one that wouldn't work is the debian security archive server. |
| 05:29.53 | Gnea | !beer illwolf |
| 05:30.05 | maddash | !beer maddash for being so evil |
| 05:30.07 | illwolf | Gnea ahh i dont drink beer. |
| 05:30.26 | Gnea | illwolf: oh ok, i can take care of that then. water? |
| 05:30.30 | mezmiro | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 05:30.30 | mezmiro | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.35 | jaredj | Tobsn: another thing to try: insert a LOG rule before the DROP rule in the block chain. you'll get lines in your /var/log/messages about what packets fell all the way through |
| 05:30.44 | mezmiro | I replaced stable with etch...alas! But I didn't put the space in there! |
| 05:30.51 | jaredj | Tobsn: but it looks like the 80 is getting blocked before it gets to this machine? |
| 05:30.55 | illwolf | Gnea yeh water is good for me |
| 05:31.13 | amol | can anybody guide me to create source installable cd |
| 05:32.25 | illwolf | Gnea so when i add support for ntfs its in the make menuconfig part? |
| 05:32.25 | maddash | illwolf: yes. |
| 05:32.25 | *** part/#debian aij (i=aij@TOTORO.ECE.CMU.EDU) |
| 05:32.25 | illwolf | Gnea also whats the kernel hacking ? |
| 05:32.25 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: the LOTSOFSTUFF is pretty thorny, because w can say times like "00:24" or "06:24m" or "100d" or maybe a couple others |
| 05:32.26 | *** join/#debian nukleuz (n=nukleuz@aworklan025162.netvigator.com) |
| 05:32.26 | *** join/#debian helfrez (n=helfrez@166-82-112-51.quickclick.ctc.net) |
| 05:32.29 | jaredj | Yggdrasil: the cmatrix probably doesn't work right in the background anyway |
| 05:32.52 | *** join/#debian Tobe (i=tobe@kapsi.fi) |
| 05:32.52 | Gnea | illwolf: yeah - you should also cp /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux-2.6.20/ && gunzip /usr/src/linux-2.6.20/config.gz && mv /usr/src/linux-2.6.20/config /usr/src/linux-2.6.20/.config before make menuconfig |
| 05:33.28 | Tobsn | hmm jaredj, would be crazy because itsa dedicated hosted at a webhoster... |
| 05:33.29 | pstickne | I steal my config from /boot |
| 05:33.35 | Tobsn | so it would be kind of stupid |
| 05:33.39 | illwolf | lol |
| 05:33.45 | illwolf | Gnea im confused. |
| 05:33.51 | Tobsn | it is stupid too to set all ports to drop on a fresh install but.... |
| 05:34.14 | illwolf | do i delete config.gz ? |
| 05:34.16 | mezmiro | Azar: http://channels.debian.net/paste/5719 Is this okay? Or should the dependency be fixed? |
| 05:34.24 | *** join/#debian ktos_pl (i=ktos@klej.net) |
| 05:34.31 | illwolf | cause im going to download 2.6.20 |
| 05:34.38 | amol | Gnea,i enabled selinux option but i don't have idea after that how it is working or else i have to do anything |
| 05:34.47 | Gnea | illwolf: check out the help section on all of that and read /usr/src/linux-2.6.20/Documentation/BUG-HUNTING |
| 05:34.55 | *** join/#debian SeanTater (n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 05:35.02 | Gnea | amol: if you don't know what it is, then leave it alone |
| 05:35.12 | Gnea | ok |
| 05:35.13 | illwolf | !Gnea ok |
| 05:35.13 | Gnea | i gotta go |
| 05:35.19 | Gnea | illwolf: good luck |
| 05:35.21 | illwolf | thanx for help |
| 05:35.23 | jaredj | Tobsn: i should mention that your rules should have your ip address listed as the destination addr |
| 05:35.24 | Gnea | np |
| 05:35.27 | illwolf | see ya |
| 05:35.27 | amol | gnea,i m intrested to know how it is working |
| 05:35.30 | illwolf | likewise ;] |
| 05:35.45 | Gnea | amol: sorry, i'm not here now, ask someone else |
| 05:36.12 | *** join/#debian kintaro0e (n=kintaro0@tequilla.exist.com) |
| 05:37.01 | *** join/#debian shay_ (n=shay@line105-136.adsl.actcom.co.il) |
| 05:37.03 | jaredj | Tobsn: i don't see how you could have gotten any incoming packets on port 80 |
| 05:37.04 | Tobsn | jabular |
| 05:37.05 | Tobsn | jaredj |
| 05:37.05 | Tobsn | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 05:37.08 | Tobsn | 80/tcp closed http |
| 05:37.10 | Tobsn | says nmap |
| 05:37.13 | jaredj | k |
| 05:37.28 | Tobsn | with the last ip chains |
| 05:37.41 | jaredj | now does your iptables -L -v have a nonzero count on the dpt:www line? |
| 05:37.41 | amol | i have created debian installable cd which is having only .deb package if i want to create installable cd with source code then how i have to do? |
| 05:37.50 | illwolf | Tobsn what u trying to do? |
| 05:37.57 | Tobsn | open port 80 illwolf |
| 05:38.01 | Tobsn | jaredj what what what? |
| 05:38.20 | Tobsn | you saw the last iptables -L -v |
| 05:38.20 | illwolf | Tobsn im sure you have a app running which is blocking it even a virus |
| 05:38.26 | Tobsn | yeah im sure |
| 05:38.29 | jaredj | Tobsn: before the nmap yes |
| 05:38.33 | illwolf | do u run honey pot? |
| 05:38.52 | Tobsn | tell me how to check illwolf ;) |
| 05:39.05 | illwolf | ps -A ? |
| 05:39.07 | Tobsn | jaredj yep but nmap just scanned so no change ;) |
| 05:39.07 | *** join/#debian Leibsle (n=dieter@unaffiliated/leibsle) |
| 05:39.21 | Tobsn | nope no honey pot |
| 05:39.29 | illwolf | or check out ur tmp folder. |
| 05:39.30 | maddash | !beep |
| 05:39.30 | dpkg | from memory, beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 05:39.37 | illwolf | or ur sshd logs |
| 05:39.45 | Tobsn | oh nevermind |
| 05:39.48 | illwolf | or pm ur ip and ill run namp |
| 05:39.50 | illwolf | *Nmap |
| 05:39.56 | Tobsn | stop it... that it dont changed was my fault |
| 05:39.58 | Tobsn | apache works |
| 05:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 680] by debhelper |
| 05:40.01 | Tobsn | i tested with lighttpd |
| 05:40.11 | jaredj | maddash: http://bitten.cmlenz.net/ uses BEEP |
| 05:40.13 | Tobsn | looks like lighttpd has some missconfig and doesnt shows the error |
| 05:40.21 | jaredj | Tobsn: ? |
| 05:40.29 | jaredj | ogh |
| 05:40.31 | jaredj | k |
| 05:40.44 | illwolf | Tobsn restart apache |
| 05:40.45 | Tobsn | :) |
| 05:40.49 | Tobsn | yeah yeah |
| 05:40.53 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:40.53 | Tobsn | it was lighttpd. |
| 05:40.57 | Tobsn | with apache it works |
| 05:41.02 | jaredj | !fish lighttpd |
| 05:41.18 | *** join/#debian atealtha (n=atealtha@user-0cev9oi.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:41.18 | illwolf | !beer lighttpd |
| 05:41.22 | jaredj | !lart illwolf |
| 05:41.34 | maddash | LOL who creates this stuff? |
| 05:41.43 | illwolf | !bang jaredj |
| 05:42.01 | jaredj | oho that's a new one on me |
| 05:42.10 | illwolf | !root jaredj |
| 05:42.14 | *** join/#debian jeffwheeler (n=jeff@adsl-70-253-223-102.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 05:42.17 | illwolf | lmao |
| 05:42.19 | jaredj | !srt illwolf |
| 05:42.20 | *** join/#debian n3kl_ (n=n3kl@65-102-207-196.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 05:42.21 | Tobsn | stupid lighttpd |
| 05:42.26 | illwolf | omg |
| 05:42.27 | Tobsn | never use the init.d script |
| 05:42.29 | illwolf | im a guy |
| 05:42.30 | Tobsn | it doesnt report errors... |
| 05:42.35 | jaredj | yes, you are aren't you |
| 05:42.40 | illwolf | ;] |
| 05:42.47 | jaredj | !srt |
| 05:42.47 | dpkg | i guess srt is Sexual Realignment Tool |
| 05:42.56 | illwolf | !rape jaredj |
| 05:43.01 | jaredj | Tobsn: syntax errors? |
| 05:43.03 | illwolf | hmm |
| 05:43.07 | jaredj | hah! |
| 05:43.09 | mezmiro | seg fault! |
| 05:43.12 | *** join/#debian PepperBob (n=michael@dslb-084-062-151-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:43.15 | Tobsn | yeah just forgot to create the htdocs again... |
| 05:43.15 | mezmiro | onoes, wrong genitalia! |
| 05:43.16 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 05:43.20 | Tobsn | now it works |
| 05:43.20 | PepperBob | howdy all! |
| 05:43.20 | illwolf | jaredj you using enlightenment ? |
| 05:43.25 | Tobsn | thanks for your help :) |
| 05:43.29 | jaredj | illwolf: nah gnome |
| 05:43.37 | jaredj | illwolf: although i have been seen running ratpoison :) |
| 05:43.39 | mezmiro | I'm using enlightenment though, it's pretty nice. |
| 05:43.45 | jaredj | Tobsn: np |
| 05:43.55 | octoberdan | Is there a way to pipe the output of a command so that it is both directed to the console and to what you pipe it to? |
| 05:44.02 | PepperBob | i have a module called hprsm - which enabled some features for HP servers |
| 05:44.02 | illwolf | jaredj cause ur nick card *.edj is a theme format. for lightenment |
| 05:44.03 | jaredj | octoberdan: tee, perhaps |
| 05:44.10 | jaredj | my nick card? |
| 05:44.13 | jaredj | i'm not nick |
| 05:44.15 | jaredj | i'm jared |
| 05:44.18 | jaredj | heehee |
| 05:44.19 | illwolf | dude |
| 05:44.23 | illwolf | ur nick edj |
| 05:44.37 | illwolf | that part of it is a file format for enlightment theme |
| 05:44.44 | jaredj | *shrug* i didn't know i had one |
| 05:44.49 | PepperBob | my problem is that when i try to build this package - though it builds it won't load correctly. it complains about a wrongs compiler version. |
| 05:44.50 | illwolf | k nvm man lol |
| 05:44.54 | jaredj | :) |
| 05:45.02 | PepperBob | can i set the default compiler from gcc 4.1 to gcc 3.3 ? |
| 05:45.45 | jaredj | PepperBob: maybe use the alternatives system |
| 05:45.45 | delire | PepperBob: update-alternatives or just point the /usr/bin/gcc symlink to the version you like. |
| 05:45.45 | Tobsn | PepperBob gcc is a link |
| 05:45.45 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 05:45.45 | mezmiro | Oh no! Gnome and nautilus is being removed! |
| 05:45.45 | mezmiro | doom... |
| 05:45.45 | illwolf | ok im abou to complie 2.6.20 do i delete my Config.gz ? |
| 05:45.46 | *** join/#debian concept10 (n=concept1@ppp-70-247-172-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 05:45.46 | illwolf | *about |
| 05:45.46 | jaredj | PepperBob: man update-alternatives |
| 05:45.46 | PepperBob | ah - that's the trick! |
| 05:45.48 | jaredj | illwolf: rm -rf / |
| 05:45.54 | illwolf | haha |
| 05:45.55 | illwolf | no |
| 05:46.05 | jaredj | illwolf: yes it's necessary for a clean build |
| 05:46.09 | PepperBob | Thanks! will check this out. |
| 05:46.14 | jaredj | *straight face* |
| 05:46.17 | illwolf | yeh rm -rf /proc ? |
| 05:46.18 | jaredj | np :) |
| 05:46.24 | delire | i learnt who Mr Proper (make mrproper) is yesterday. |
| 05:46.24 | *** join/#debian Josiah (n=Matt@208.115.232.220) |
| 05:46.32 | *** join/#debian Garda (n=Garda@218-215-138-183.people.net.au) |
| 05:47.03 | jaredj | i didn't |
| 05:47.09 | *** join/#debian Rohinton (n=chatzill@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com) |
| 05:47.22 | illwolf | ? |
| 05:47.43 | delire | born in an advertisement in Spain, he's widely known for saving houses from dirt and grime in the form of a cleaning product. |
| 05:47.58 | delire | apparently alot of Spanish kids know who Mr Proper is. |
| 05:48.18 | Josiah | quick question for anyone caring to field it: which do suppose is faster, transferring files from a windows machine to a debian server using SFTP, or doing the same transfer using samba? |
| 05:48.20 | jaredj | ah fun, i didn't know he == mr. clean |
| 05:48.27 | delire | jaredj: yeah that's it ;) |
| 05:48.35 | delire | s/it/him |
| 05:48.56 | *** join/#debian yell0w (n=yellow@unaffiliated/yellow) |
| 05:49.04 | mezmiro | :/ so my kernel upgrade didn't go quite as planned... |
| 05:49.10 | jaredj | Josiah: probably about the same. sftp encrypts but on modern machines this probably does not make it much slower |
| 05:49.19 | *** join/#debian zamuro (n=FlavorFl@190.38.88.6) |
| 05:49.32 | amol | can anybody tell me how to use selinux..i have enabled selinux at the time kernel compilation and then booted |
| 05:49.37 | mezmiro | dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.27-3-386 (--remove): |
| 05:49.37 | mezmiro | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.42 | Josiah | yeah, that's about what I figured. Thank;s my man |
| 05:49.46 | jaredj | np |
| 05:49.58 | delire | Josiah: i get the best performance with scp (compared to sftp and samba), at least where i currently work. |
| 05:50.20 | mezmiro | When I do a uname -a my kernel version shows up as 2.4.27 but I installed 2.6 o.O |
| 05:50.21 | Josiah | delire: scp? I'm not familiar |
| 05:50.32 | jaredj | !scp |
| 05:50.33 | dpkg | i heard scp is Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. ssh + cpio. EXAMPLE: scp *.mp3 me@myotherbox:/var/tmp |
| 05:50.33 | delire | Josiah: scp file you@remote.com:. |
| 05:50.37 | jaredj | oo fun |
| 05:50.46 | *** join/#debian stas_v (n=Stas@74-135-41-81.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 05:50.55 | delire | Josiah: or scp you@remote:/path/to/file /local/path/ |
| 05:51.05 | delire | 'reverse' scp. |
| 05:52.03 | delire | (even though i don't use a DE myself) |
| 05:52.04 | jaredj | Josiah: or (1) scp /local/path me@remote (2) file missing at remote end (3) kick self for forgetting colon |
| 05:52.13 | delire | hehe |
| 05:52.20 | Josiah | delire: interesting, but is there some sort of client that allows it to run natively in windows, or would I have to use cygwin or some such? |
| 05:52.22 | atealtha | I'm planning on trying KDE for a bit but want to backup my menu so it won't be cluttered with KDE apps if I choose to go back. How can I do this? |
| 05:52.26 | jaredj | Josiah: pscp |
| 05:52.37 | delire | Josiah: yikes i don't know much about Windows these days sadly. it's been years. |
| 05:52.45 | jaredj | Josiah: (part of putty) |
| 05:52.47 | atealtha | there is /usr/share/menu but that seems to be for the Debian folder within the menu |
| 05:52.58 | Josiah | jaredj: gottchya, thanks |
| 05:53.03 | pstickne | Josiah, there is a native openssh port as well as putty & friends. |
| 05:53.24 | pstickne | Josiah, look at mingw for the native port iirc. |
| 05:53.32 | delire | pstickne: jaredj good to know should i ever find myself behind a Windows box in a holocaust. |
| 05:53.40 | pstickne | ^^ |
| 05:53.42 | amol | jareddj,how to create installable cd with all source package |
| 05:53.43 | jaredj | delire: oh yes, putty verranice |
| 05:54.10 | Josiah | awesome, I'll check it out; gotta get all these files off of this old windows box so I can install nix over it |
| 05:54.16 | jaredj | amol: hmm. don't know :/ |
| 05:54.17 | Josiah | ;-) |
| 05:54.25 | delire | Josiah: that's the spirit! |
| 05:54.28 | pstickne | I have putty hosted on my server... it's a single-exec setup so, just download and run from just about any windows box ^^ |
| 05:54.32 | jaredj | FIGHT THE POWER |
| 05:55.03 | delire | well, that's perhaps a little too rich, but yes, fight the .. nvm. |
| 05:55.06 | amol | jaredj,how to use selinux after enabling in debian |
| 05:55.24 | illwolf | whats the diff between kernel 2.6.19.7 and 2.6.19 ? |
| 05:55.30 | jaredj | amol: also don't know. i stay away from selinux, i haven't needed it yet and it's way detail-oriented |
| 05:55.46 | delire | illwolf: a version? |
| 05:55.55 | delire | illwolf: read the changelog. |
| 05:55.59 | jaredj | delire: yeh i'm probably not qualified to say FIGHT THE POWER |
| 05:56.04 | delire | jaredj: hehe |
| 05:56.16 | amol | delire,,how to use selinux after enabling in debian |
| 05:56.27 | delire | jaredj: if Obama's not black then I can be. |
| 05:56.47 | delire | amol: i don't know, i don't use Selinux (yet) |
| 05:56.54 | *** join/#debian SportChick (n=essy@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick) |
| 05:57.02 | delire | amol: see debian-administration.org |
| 05:57.09 | delire | (as a guess) |
| 05:57.29 | *** part/#debian else58 (n=else58@72.183.125.202) |
| 05:57.35 | jaredj | delire: i am tangled in your logic |
| 05:57.56 | jaredj | night all, 00:57 CDT |
| 05:57.58 | delire | amol: http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
| 05:58.05 | delire | jaredj: night. |
| 05:58.08 | *** join/#debian mrebola (n=mrebola@189.165.51.43) |
| 05:59.02 | *** join/#debian numist (i=numist@freenode/staff/scott) |
| 05:59.05 | amol | delire,in that it isnot mention how to us eit |
| 06:00.11 | delire | amol: yes, this page does look a little empty ;) http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux/HowToUse |
| 06:00.48 | delire | amol: have you got as far as the steps mentioned in this HOWTO? http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/testing-stuff-with-qemu-part-1-selinux-support-in-debian-unstable |
| 06:01.14 | xerophyte | which drive is faster sata, sas, or ide drive ? |
| 06:01.16 | delire | this to me looks like the critical part: ln -s /etc/selinux/refpolicy/src /etc/selinux/targeted |
| 06:02.17 | delire | xerophyte: SATA i'd say |
| 06:02.43 | xerophyte | what does await means in iostats ? |
| 06:03.12 | *** join/#debian karrotx_ (n=steve@64.253.3.13) |
| 06:04.03 | pstickne | xerophyte, it depends on the actual drive itself... |
| 06:04.26 | pstickne | (remember, it's a game of weakest-link) |
| 06:04.35 | xerophyte | pstickne, i am not following could you please give me more info i have sas drive |
| 06:05.07 | pstickne | read the specs and do benchmarks. |
| 06:06.15 | pstickne | the actual interface SAS/SATA/IDE(PATA) determine that, the interface only. |
| 06:06.25 | delire | the SATA spec plans for a 6G transfer eventually, don't know what it is now though. |
| 06:06.26 | amol | delire,i used documents given in gentoo |
| 06:06.36 | delire | that's fine i suppose, but did you create that final symlink and reboot? |
| 06:06.36 | delire | it looks to me like SELinux won't be active on reboot without that policy symlink. |
| 06:06.37 | delire | amol: once that's done you _are_ using SELinux. |
| 06:06.37 | pstickne | they say nothing about the actual drive |
| 06:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 06:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 06:06.57 | amol | delire,yes i booted with it |
| 06:07.48 | delire | i would've though even your average run-of-the-mill SATA is going to transfer more each second than a 7200RPM IDE. might be very wrong. |
| 06:07.54 | amol | delire i was using this option but i don't know what happened 1 day it was not booting.. |
| 06:08.15 | amol | so i tried too much then i formmated it |
| 06:08.39 | delire | amol: hmm. well i'm really not the guy to ask. it's a bit quiet around here right now. try coming back in around 8 hours and ask again. |
| 06:09.08 | delire | amol: there is also an #selinux. try asking in there. |
| 06:09.50 | amol | k,thanks..can u tell me how to create installable cd with source ..i creatyed but it is with .deb packages |
| 06:09.57 | Yggdrasil | jaredj thanks for te help anyway |
| 06:09.59 | Yggdrasil | bbl |
| 06:10.06 | *** part/#debian Josiah (n=Matt@208.115.232.220) |
| 06:10.30 | *** join/#debian larsl (n=larsl@qgis/developer/larsl) |
| 06:10.46 | larsl | Hello, what group do I need to be in to access a PTP digital camera? |
| 06:10.54 | larsl | It only works as root for the moment. |
| 06:11.15 | Xorm | uhh. |
| 06:11.17 | delire | larsl: perhaps the camera group? |
| 06:11.22 | Xorm | I did 'apt-get -f install' |
| 06:11.28 | Xorm | and now it's uninstalling tons of stuff. |
| 06:11.32 | Xorm | 500+ MB of it. |
| 06:11.35 | larsl | delire: There is no such group. |
| 06:11.49 | delire | xerophyte: use aptitude next time. |
| 06:12.04 | delire | larsl: ok, there is on my machine. |
| 06:12.07 | xerophyte | delire, aptitude |
| 06:12.08 | xerophyte | ? |
| 06:12.14 | Xorm | Should I be alarmed? |
| 06:12.20 | delire | yes probably. |
| 06:12.20 | larsl | delire: Etch? |
| 06:12.24 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 06:12.35 | Xorm | oooh boy. |
| 06:12.36 | delire | larsl: make a group, give it ownership of the device and add the users you like to it. |
| 06:12.52 | delire | Xorm: you have to be careful with force flags. |
| 06:13.09 | larsl | delire: Give it ownership? Aren't USB device permissions supposed to be handled by udev? |
| 06:13.12 | Xorm | *force*?! |
| 06:13.13 | delire | larsl: yes, but i've had a camera group in Debian for several years. |
| 06:13.20 | Xorm | I thought it meant _FIX_ |
| 06:13.20 | delire | Xorm: -f == force |
| 06:13.31 | Xorm | TT_____TT |
| 06:13.36 | delire | Xorm: sheesh man. i hate to say it but ..... r t f m |
| 06:13.45 | Xorm | I wills. |
| 06:13.47 | delire | Xorm: it's a powerful flag.. |
| 06:13.49 | delire | Xorm: ;) |
| 06:14.09 | delire | Xorm: we've all been there.. ( i know i have) |
| 06:14.46 | Xorm | oh dear. |
| 06:14.51 | Xorm | I can't even bring up the terminal. |
| 06:14.56 | Xorm | gnome-terminal has been uninstalled. |
| 06:15.23 | delire | Xorm: do you have the list of packages that have been uninstalled? |
| 06:15.41 | Xorm | I was about copypaste them |
| 06:16.02 | Xorm | but my buffer just got eaten |
| 06:16.29 | delire | Xorm: grim. |
| 06:16.36 | Xorm | indeed. |
| 06:16.44 | delire | well as long as you don't uninstall apt it's recoverable. |
| 06:16.51 | Xorm | lol. |
| 06:17.05 | delire | generally it's a good idea to 'dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt' before a big haul like that. |
| 06:17.05 | Xorm | It's installing a bunch of other stuff now though. |
| 06:17.29 | delire | Xorm: stuff like an operating system by the sounds of it.. |
| 06:17.36 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 06:17.41 | Xorm | hahahaha |
| 06:17.46 | Xorm | I see python |
| 06:17.47 | delire | ;) |
| 06:17.49 | Xorm | bits of gnome |
| 06:17.52 | Xorm | cups |
| 06:18.00 | delire | Xorm: good, sounding good. |
| 06:18.12 | larsl | There doesn't seem to be any udev rules for handling this camera. I know it has worked earlier though. |
| 06:18.32 | delire | larsl: have you tried gthumb or something to see what it does? |
| 06:18.41 | Xorm | and yep |
| 06:18.45 | Xorm | my box is now borketh |
| 06:19.07 | Xorm | aaaaaaaaand |
| 06:19.08 | *** part/#debian helfrez (n=helfrez@166-82-112-51.quickclick.ctc.net) |
| 06:19.20 | Xorm | for all this trouble |
| 06:19.28 | Xorm | I still can't apt-get install lastfm. |
| 06:19.47 | delire | Xorm: you've been mucking about with your sources.list haven't you ;) |
| 06:19.50 | larsl | delire: I've tried digikam and gphoto2 -l, both say "Could not claim the USB device". |
| 06:19.54 | Xorm | indeed. >_> |
| 06:19.58 | delire | ;) |
| 06:20.18 | delire | borketh on the shoals of pure reason. |
| 06:21.23 | Xorm | Uhh, what's the newest debian release? |
| 06:21.23 | Xorm | I'm sitting on sarge right now. |
| 06:21.23 | delire | Xorm: well i have no woes with lastfm player. i don't use a repo though. |
| 06:21.26 | Xorm | hmm. |
| 06:21.27 | delire | Xorm: you could track Etch. it's looking to be a fine release. |
| 06:21.34 | Xorm | schweet. |
| 06:21.43 | Xorm | Still in testing though? |
| 06:22.12 | delire | Xorm: the last dribs and drabs. it's good to go for a non-production mission-critical machine. |
| 06:22.37 | delire | the improvements over sarge are vast. |
| 06:22.44 | Xorm | sounds like a good one, I'm in for it. |
| 06:22.52 | delire | yep, give a proverbial crack. |
| 06:23.02 | delire | i'm off to bed, else my eyes will draw blood. |
| 06:23.08 | Xorm | O_o |
| 06:23.10 | Xorm | goodnight |
| 06:23.11 | Xorm | thanks |
| 06:23.16 | delire | anytime. |
| 06:23.21 | *** join/#debian niru (n=niru@203.129.255.178) |
| 06:23.22 | *** part/#debian delire (n=delire@lawn-128-61-116-246.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 06:23.35 | niru | how can i get debian etch source cd |
| 06:23.38 | niru | any link |
| 06:24.58 | *** join/#debian kryptoz (n=shreyas@221.135.191.222) |
| 06:25.10 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl-12-44-166-053.arpa2.caltel.com) |
| 06:25.20 | cast | it's not a single, it might be 15 or so, can't remember |
| 06:25.23 | chemist | niru: debian.org |
| 06:25.42 | cast | its better to just download the src pkgs you are interested in |
| 06:25.50 | grendal_prime | regex is pissing me off |
| 06:26.01 | atealtha | so stay on testing but install KDE experimental (3.5) I am trying: sources grab testing and experimental lists, set /etc/apt/preferences to keep all under testing, and run "apt-get install -t experimental kde", yes? |
| 06:26.12 | grendal_prime | again i might add |
| 06:26.12 | atealtha | s/so/to/ |
| 06:26.30 | niru | chemist,cast:suppose I have 300 packages and the source for 300 packages may take how many cds |
| 06:26.43 | niru | chemist,cast:any guess |
| 06:26.54 | grendal_prime | not much??? |
| 06:27.25 | grendal_prime | but thats just a guess...i mean you know.... |
| 06:27.55 | *** join/#debian SportChick (n=essy@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick) |
| 06:27.58 | grendal_prime | I havent have coffee for 5 days now..so i could be off by a few...kbs |
| 06:28.11 | grendal_prime | or pousands |
| 06:28.26 | niru | chemist:is a source cd bootable or it is like an appluication cd thats can be opened on any os to get the source contents |
| 06:28.35 | niru | or its something that gets installed |
| 06:29.04 | grendal_prime | anyone any good with regexpressions? cause im out of ideas on this problem, evertime i include the tabs if stops finding my information |
| 06:29.12 | cast | niru: no guess. it depends on the pkgs. mozilla sources might be bigger than 100 other source packages |
| 06:29.34 | larsl | Huh. There aren't any libgphoto2 udev rules at all. |
| 06:29.59 | niru | cast:any source cd is bootable or just a data cd |
| 06:31.42 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:32.34 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@196.46.46.66) |
| 06:33.01 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@zr198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 06:33.07 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 06:33.36 | Tobsn | hmm how can i see what ips added as alias in ifconfig? |
| 06:33.40 | Tobsn | is there a list option? |
| 06:34.44 | *** part/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 06:35.57 | *** join/#debian maxamillion (n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) |
| 06:36.53 | larsl | Adding a 'camera' group and adding myself to it didn't help either. |
| 06:37.13 | *** join/#debian SportChick (i=greece@freenode/staff/about.essy.sportchick) |
| 06:37.15 | cahoot | larsl: plugdev |
| 06:37.51 | karsten | larsl: newgrp camera and retry |
| 06:37.56 | karsten | larsl: ... or log off and back on. |
| 06:38.07 | larsl | cahoot: I'm already in plugdev. |
| 06:38.27 | larsl | karsten: I did 'su ll' and 'groups' shows that I'm in the camera group, still doesn't work. |
| 06:38.39 | karsten | larsl: OK. |
| 06:39.16 | larsl | It works if I change the USB device permissions manually every time after connecting the camera of course, but I'd rather not have to do that. |
| 06:39.32 | larsl | The device is always owned by root.root. |
| 06:39.45 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 06:39.52 | larsl | As if there was no matching udev rule at all. |
| 06:41.34 | *** join/#debian jack_wyt_ (n=jack@58.61.198.26) |
| 06:44.02 | *** join/#debian rohinton (i=IceChat7@c-67-170-250-22.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:49.17 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (n=kvirc@65.183.247.11) |
| 06:52.14 | *** join/#debian _spaz (i=spaz@ppp-69-223-43-122.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 06:53.11 | *** join/#debian xixor (n=xixor@S010600179adc7088.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 06:54.12 | *** join/#debian jumperz (n=eth@host37-214-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:56.38 | *** join/#debian Leibsle (n=dieter@unaffiliated/leibsle) |
| 06:57.59 | *** join/#debian NefariousPrior (n=Nefariou@cpe-72-185-28-118.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 06:58.32 | NefariousPrior | Anyone know of a good tutorial/HOWTO/guide to configure a descent ftpd ? |
| 06:58.51 | *** part/#debian _spaz (i=spaz@ppp-69-223-43-122.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 06:58.52 | larsl | Why are there udev rule files in both /etc/udev and /etc/udev/rules.d? |
| 06:59.06 | streuner | !ftp must die |
| 06:59.06 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
| 07:00.20 | Pinchiukas | lol |
| 07:02.16 | *** join/#debian Student (n=_EBRU@88.240.228.204) |
| 07:02.23 | pstickne | FTP should have been a stillborn ^^ |
| 07:02.54 | NefariousPrior | Ftp must die. nice. still reading for suggested replacement options. |
| 07:03.06 | *** part/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 07:03.11 | *** join/#debian nipplesrulz (n=stars@unaffiliated/starscalling) |
| 07:03.32 | NefariousPrior | I hope it doesn't suggest CIFS over the internet. hehe |
| 07:03.38 | litage | why is there no backport of libreadilne5? |
| 07:03.44 | pstickne | NefariousPrior, hmm... now that you mention it... |
| 07:04.05 | streuner | litage: because nobody packaged it? |
| 07:04.19 | streuner | litage: feel free to make one |
| 07:04.32 | litage | streuner: gotta learn how to first.. |
| 07:04.51 | streuner | litage: backports has its own channel |
| 07:04.56 | *** join/#debian comsa (n=eddy_ami@katax1-213.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:05.06 | streuner | litage: or /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 07:05.07 | *** join/#debian lechef (i=7APKlf3V@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 07:06.39 | litage | streuner: why sid and not etch? |
| 07:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 07:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 07:08.00 | streuner | litage: because people want (mostly) the latest packages? |
| 07:08.42 | litage | streuner: is there anything wrong with backporting from etch to sarge? |
| 07:08.54 | *** join/#debian mo1991 (n=mo1991@adsl-75-22-16-248.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:09.29 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@145.253.117.242) |
| 07:09.39 | *** join/#debian starscalling (n=stars@unaffiliated/starscalling) |
| 07:10.00 | streuner | you could use any branch to 'backport', but i think backporting from experimental is NOT that clever... |
| 07:10.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 673] by debhelper |
| 07:10.02 | *** join/#debian qwertz (n=qwertz@pD9532BD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:10.03 | *** join/#debian batrick (i=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 07:10.53 | Pinchiukas | I'm trying to make computers behind a router connect to the wow server through a ssh tunnel, these are the commands I use: http://www.paste.lt/paste/2ffb0c6e43426f8a9b11a57622d1d4be anything wrong? cause they can't connect :) I enter these commands on the router |
| 07:11.11 | *** join/#debian uzer (n=brian@c-68-38-57-69.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 07:11.23 | *** join/#debian finrod (n=finrod@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 07:11.36 | *** join/#debian kingsley (n=kingsley@198.182.208.112) |
| 07:11.40 | NefariousPrior | Ok, It says FTP must die, but offers not alternatives. lol |
| 07:11.48 | NefariousPrior | s/not/no |
| 07:11.49 | qwertz | Hi, when trying ssh login to a news installed etch server it takes several seconds to get the password prompt I'm suspecting that the server is doing some kind of reverse dns lookup - is there a way to disable this? |
| 07:11.55 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@87.139.74.16) |
| 07:11.57 | Pinchiukas | NefariousPrior: it mentions http |
| 07:12.00 | illwolf | how do i install patch for lernel ? |
| 07:12.04 | illwolf | *KERNEL |
| 07:12.28 | larsl | illwolf: Get source, patch, build kernel package with make-kpkg. |
| 07:12.34 | streuner | illwolf: /msg dpkg patch |
| 07:12.38 | NefariousPrior | Pinchiukas: And posting files to httpd is efficient ?? |
| 07:12.40 | illwolf | ok |
| 07:12.40 | larsl | illwolf: You can't "install" a kernel patch, you need to rebuild the whole kernel. |
| 07:12.47 | illwolf | really? |
| 07:12.58 | larsl | illwolf: Otherwise it wouldn't be a patch. |
| 07:12.58 | Pinchiukas | NefariousPrior: I don't know |
| 07:12.59 | illwolf | the whole kernel ? |
| 07:13.17 | streuner | if it isn't a module, yes |
| 07:13.18 | larsl | Patches are only for things that can not be done as modules or in userspace. |
| 07:13.27 | illwolf | ok brb |
| 07:13.31 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@ADSL-TPLUS-89-37.telecomplus.net) |
| 07:13.50 | *** join/#debian PhilKC (i=greece@freenode/staff/about.linux.philkc) |
| 07:14.39 | NefariousPrior | !ftp replacement |
| 07:15.22 | *** join/#debian lechef (i=9ktpLcXg@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 07:16.01 | *** join/#debian meaning_of_life (n=42@c-68-52-74-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 07:16.25 | meaning_of_life | having a folder permissions crisis... i need my folders (hundreds of them) changed to 755, but my files to 744. how do i do this under 10 hours? |
| 07:16.48 | Kevin` | meaning_of_life find -type f, find -type d -exec chmod blah {} \; |
| 07:17.00 | meaning_of_life | thanks! |
| 07:17.33 | meaning_of_life | and sorry for double posting |
| 07:17.53 | litage | streuner: actually, the reason there's no backport of libreadline5 is that it already exists in sarge =P |
| 07:19.21 | *** join/#debian lowlevel (n=Stuart@CPE000e0c057fad-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 07:20.31 | streuner | !blairsmite litage |
| 07:20.51 | *** join/#debian illwolf (n=root@149.135.18.232) |
| 07:22.06 | *** join/#debian FredricR (n=FredricR@admin184.hgo.se) |
| 07:22.31 | tuvwx | what are my options for connecting an lcd tv to my laptop (ati card) via vga, and how do they compare? i know of mergedfb and xinerama, but only tried mergedfb: works with limitations |
| 07:22.42 | *** part/#debian illwolf (n=root@149.135.18.232) |
| 07:22.46 | *** join/#debian illwolf (n=root@149.135.18.232) |
| 07:22.52 | *** join/#debian ryanium (n=ryan@74-141-65-102.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 07:23.02 | streuner | !tell illwolf about root |
| 07:23.34 | *** join/#debian illwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 07:23.39 | illwolf | ok |
| 07:23.46 | illwolf | i mounted my ntfs hda1 |
| 07:23.52 | illwolf | and i cant axx it unless im root |
| 07:24.04 | illwolf | what chmod do i give it so local user can axx it ? |
| 07:24.41 | streuner | !listkeys ntfs |
| 07:24.43 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ntfs' by key (15 of 33): #debian captiventfs ;; #debian ntfs ;; #debian ntfsrw ;; #debian read-ntfs ;; #debian-bots ro-ntfs ;; _default ntfs rw ;; _default ntfsro ;; _default ro-ntfs ;; mount ntfs ;; ntfs resize ;; ntfs resizing ;; ntfs-3g ;; ntfs3g ;; ntfsro ;; ro-ntfs. |
| 07:25.06 | streuner | !ntfsrw |
| 07:25.07 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfsrw is for beta-qualiy write support on i386, amd64 and possibly others, see <ntfs-3g>. For stable read-only support, ask me about <read-ntfs> |
| 07:25.43 | Kevin` | !ntfs-3g |
| 07:25.44 | dpkg | ntfs-3g is probably a new driver for NTFS with write support, available in etch and Debian unstable. Read the FAQ at http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html, also ask me about <ntfs> |
| 07:25.56 | illwolf | ? |
| 07:26.08 | NefariousPrior | !ftp |
| 07:26.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, ftp is (File Transfer Protocol) This is a method of moving files from system to system using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of ftp: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-unix users). Unencrypted ftp using unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as runnin windows on your firewall machine. |
| 07:27.29 | illwolf | thats all the help? |
| 07:27.31 | *** join/#debian grandrew (n=grandrew@ppp91-76-25-90.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 07:27.32 | streuner | illwolf: the factoid doesn't exist, because *writing* to NTFS isn't that clever |
| 07:27.35 | streuner | yes |
| 07:27.38 | illwolf | wtf |
| 07:27.41 | *** join/#debian tok|asleep2 (n=toktok@p57A53B21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:27.42 | illwolf | i wasnt gon write on it |
| 07:27.47 | illwolf | just copy files from it |
| 07:27.48 | grandrew | hi all! what package is 'e2fsck' in? |
| 07:27.50 | illwolf | to my linux |
| 07:27.56 | *** join/#debian tsurko (n=tsurko@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg) |
| 07:27.57 | dondelelcaro | illwolf: then mount it read only |
| 07:28.06 | streuner | !tell grandrew about search |
| 07:28.10 | illwolf | whats command ? |
| 07:28.33 | Tobsn | hmm how can i add a ip alias and set netmask to 255.255.240.0 and a broadcast? |
| 07:28.54 | grandrew | hmm |
| 07:28.57 | illwolf | ?> |
| 07:28.59 | dondelelcaro | illwolf: mount /dev/foo /mnt/bar; FE. |
| 07:29.20 | NefariousPrior | mkdir /mnt/win; mount -t ntfs /dev/[h|s]d[a-d][0-9] /mnt/win |
| 07:30.02 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: with ifconfig or by editing /etc/network/interfaces, depending on whether it's temporary or permanent. |
| 07:30.06 | illwolf | ? |
| 07:30.10 | illwolf | i did that ffs. |
| 07:30.15 | dondelelcaro | illwolf: so what's the problem? |
| 07:30.22 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 07:30.27 | illwolf | wait |
| 07:30.29 | illwolf | like |
| 07:30.39 | illwolf | i cant go thru the folder |
| 07:30.40 | Tobsn | hmm did i _need_ the gateway ip for the interface config? |
| 07:30.44 | illwolf | coz i need root |
| 07:30.51 | dondelelcaro | and stop overusing enter; I've told you not to do this three times already. |
| 07:30.51 | illwolf | but i dont it root to ax it only |
| 07:30.52 | NefariousPrior | illwolf: You might have to be root. |
| 07:30.56 | illwolf | ok |
| 07:31.02 | *** join/#debian dmlb2000_ (n=dmlb2000@71.92.118.170) |
| 07:31.53 | Tobsn | hmm is it inet static in the interface? |
| 07:32.05 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: yes. man 5 interfaces; for details |
| 07:32.11 | illwolf | mount: special device /dev/ha1 does not exist |
| 07:32.21 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: just make sure you do not add a gateway |
| 07:32.46 | streuner | illwolf: hda, hdb, hdc, hdd NOT ha1 |
| 07:33.03 | streuner | illwolf: and use the exact partition |
| 07:33.47 | illwolf | root@mit[/mnt]# mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/wins |
| 07:33.47 | illwolf | mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/wins busy |
| 07:34.12 | Tobsn | k |
| 07:34.18 | Tobsn | so |
| 07:34.19 | Tobsn | auto eth0 |
| 07:34.19 | Tobsn | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 07:34.21 | Tobsn | iface eth0:1 inet static |
| 07:34.25 | Tobsn | address 82.103.132.3 |
| 07:34.28 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: don't paste, please. |
| 07:34.29 | Tobsn | netmask 255.255.240.0 |
| 07:34.33 | Tobsn | broadcast 82.103.143.255 |
| 07:34.37 | illwolf | ? |
| 07:34.37 | Tobsn | should work? |
| 07:34.41 | Tobsn | sory for the paste |
| 07:34.44 | streuner | /dev/hda is the whole HD itself, fdisk -l /dev/hda and use the partition which NTFS is... |
| 07:34.47 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: yes. |
| 07:34.54 | Tobsn | k thx |
| 07:35.17 | illwolf | dude |
| 07:35.18 | illwolf | ur a tard |
| 07:35.26 | NefariousPrior | illwolf: ls /mnt/win LEt me know what you get.... and make sure you are root. |
| 07:35.28 | illwolf | i fkn did that and sorry for keep pressing eneter |
| 07:35.30 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 07:35.30 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@149.135.18.232] by dondelelcaro |
| 07:35.30 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 07:35.54 | dondelelcaro | illwolf: if you want to insult people, seek help elsewhere. |
| 07:36.10 | *** part/#debian illwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 07:36.58 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 07:37.30 | Tobsn | dondelelcaro, didnt worked |
| 07:37.38 | Tobsn | if also added a route: |
| 07:37.46 | Tobsn | route add -host 82.103.132.3 eth0:1 |
| 07:37.51 | Tobsn | but it didnt work |
| 07:38.02 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: did you ifup eth0:1? |
| 07:38.28 | Tobsn | ah nope |
| 07:38.34 | Tobsn | but didnt work... |
| 07:38.43 | Tobsn | is the route ok? |
| 07:38.55 | Tobsn | or did i have to add the netmask 255.255.240.0 somewhereß |
| 07:38.56 | Tobsn | ß |
| 07:38.59 | Tobsn | ? |
| 07:39.00 | Tobsn | ;) |
| 07:39.12 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: what does route -n; and ifconfig; output? |
| 07:39.19 | streuner | !tell Tobsn about enter |
| 07:39.28 | jetscreamer | !tell Tobsn -about paste |
| 07:39.40 | *** join/#debian smiler (i=smiler@hutch.odx.nl) |
| 07:40.55 | *** join/#debian BackwardsDown (n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl) |
| 07:41.00 | streuner | !paste |
| 07:41.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste on FreeNode and http://channels.debian.net/paste2/ on OFTC |
| 07:41.22 | streuner | Tobsn: use the paster bot for those commands dondelelcaro gave you |
| 07:42.19 | Tobsn | paster bot? |
| 07:42.20 | Langly1 | hmm I think the drive partitioner for Alpha debian isnt bothering to check for bad clusters when it sets up the file system |
| 07:42.36 | Langly1 | seems to have been the root of my problem for the past 12 hours |
| 07:42.42 | streuner | Tobsn: http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 07:43.08 | Tobsn | dondelelcaro http://nopaste.info/6377f3bb51.html |
| 07:43.11 | Tobsn | streuner, k thx |
| 07:43.23 | Langly1 | I did a odd partition job to avoid that one spot on the drive (ive used other but small drives) and 15 failed installs, that one worked |
| 07:43.53 | Langly1 | workin now though |
| 07:44.09 | Langly1 | seems though its not checking the drive properly when it makes the fs |
| 07:44.13 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: there's nothing wrong there |
| 07:44.24 | Tobsn | hmm |
| 07:44.28 | dondelelcaro | Tobsn: the interfaces commands did exactly what they're supposed to do. |
| 07:44.51 | Tobsn | HA! |
| 07:44.54 | Tobsn | your right it works |
| 07:44.56 | Tobsn | crazy |
| 07:45.06 | Tobsn | i did a wget from the shell and it said no route to host |
| 07:45.17 | Tobsn | but if i go on a domain that points to that ip it shows the page... nice |
| 07:45.59 | *** join/#debian jair_ (n=jair@adsl-75-21-74-76.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:50.24 | *** join/#debian tenzing_ (n=tenzin@202.144.144.21) |
| 07:51.58 | *** join/#debian I-kido (n=Reco@035-035-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 07:55.21 | *** join/#debian vn- (n=nostalge@bas5-quebec14-1128556803.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:55.49 | *** join/#debian lechef (i=OicwIcnQ@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 07:57.00 | *** join/#debian basantashrestha (n=basanta@202.79.37.177) |
| 07:57.08 | *** join/#debian basantashrestha1 (n=basanta@202.79.37.177) |
| 07:57.34 | *** join/#debian kingsley_ (n=kingsley@dialup53.nas.com) |
| 07:59.58 | *** join/#debian EdwardElric (i=fullmeta@d60-65-234-236.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 08:00.12 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-167-127-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 08:00.28 | *** join/#debian vint-cerft (n=Vint_cer@84.124.9.213.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:00.58 | *** join/#debian nn_ (n=nn@pool-68-162-123-219.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 08:01.20 | streuner | vint-cerft: please turn that off |
| 08:01.31 | *** part/#debian larsl (n=larsl@qgis/developer/larsl) |
| 08:02.02 | *** join/#debian rpedro_ (n=rpedro@87-196-40-13.net.novis.pt) |
| 08:02.11 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 08:02.34 | *** join/#debian war (n=war@wicked.iniquity.net) |
| 08:03.10 | jetscreamer | god... i'll have to /join #ubuntu for something to do on irc... gah |
| 08:03.18 | jetscreamer | s/i'll/i'd/ |
| 08:03.37 | jetscreamer | cept i'd have to esc ' eh |
| 08:03.42 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 08:03.59 | *** join/#debian cydork (n=vihang@unaffiliated/cydork) |
| 08:04.22 | streuner | something? |
| 08:06.29 | jetscreamer | well, to be constructive atm i'd have to reboot to windows |
| 08:06.30 | *** join/#debian blijblijblij (n=rogier@57-154.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) |
| 08:06.39 | jetscreamer | and i just don't feel constructive |
| 08:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 08:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 08:07.57 | *** join/#debian DrthHmstr (n=HMSTR@valandfritz.demon.co.uk) |
| 08:08.24 | *** join/#debian ragedragon (n=dragon@lns-bzn-55-82-255-174-180.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 08:08.27 | jetscreamer | i use it for vs2005 and sql server... not that i know what i'm doing |
| 08:10.35 | jetscreamer | when dawnlight comes back tell her about root |
| 08:10.55 | streuner | jetscreamer: i told her/him about... |
| 08:10.59 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 08:11.05 | jetscreamer | him/her /msg'd me |
| 08:11.07 | *** join/#debian dalia (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 08:11.10 | dalia | hello |
| 08:11.10 | jetscreamer | but then was gone |
| 08:11.15 | dalia | wow it worked! |
| 08:11.22 | jetscreamer | you must be dawnlight |
| 08:11.30 | jetscreamer | and not irc'ing as root |
| 08:11.34 | *** join/#debian touch (n=touch@64.19.53.197.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 08:11.47 | jetscreamer | damn i should be a detective |
| 08:12.07 | DawnLight | oh yeah |
| 08:13.17 | DawnLight | so... will anyone give me that default entry in sources.list of the debian security repo? |
| 08:14.31 | streuner | deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main <-- for stable/sarge |
| 08:14.55 | *** join/#debian AfterDea1h (i=icxcnika@about/linux/regular/afterdeath) |
| 08:15.04 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/files/sources.list <--messy, old |
| 08:15.34 | streuner | DawnLight: if you using etch/testing - /msg dpkg etch security |
| 08:15.56 | DawnLight | thanks! |
| 08:15.57 | streuner | np |
| 08:16.41 | *** join/#debian evilbulgarian (n=konversa@206-169-1-36.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 08:17.22 | DawnLight | say, how does the channel even know that i'm logged as root? |
| 08:17.48 | streuner | * DawnLight (i=root@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) hat #debian betreten |
| 08:17.51 | beoba | we rooted your box |
| 08:17.56 | beoba | already |
| 08:18.30 | DawnLight | nice |
| 08:19.04 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (n=Tiffon@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:19.07 | DawnLight | say, does beryl replace the x windows system? |
| 08:19.14 | streuner | no |
| 08:19.26 | streuner | !beryl |
| 08:19.26 | dpkg | well, beryl is a compositing window manager for the X Window System. It is a fork of Compiz. http://beryl-project.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_(window_manager), packages for etch and sid are here: http://debian.beryl-project.org/ |
| 08:20.03 | *** join/#debian waynayachaq (n=chatzill@201.240.67.53) |
| 08:20.07 | streuner | its another WM (window-manager) with some extra features - not more or less |
| 08:20.12 | waynayachaq | hola |
| 08:20.24 | waynayachaq | necesito ayuda soy nuevo con lnxdebian |
| 08:20.29 | *** join/#debian dolmans (n=simon@219.142.192.187) |
| 08:20.36 | torrr | how can I set pure-ftpd anonymous home dir, and allowed incoming ips? |
| 08:21.12 | waynayachaq | necesito instalar debian en una laptop HP nx6320 con procesador intel centrino duo |
| 08:21.29 | markybob | !es |
| 08:21.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:22.33 | waynayachaq | hi, i need to install debian on a laptop hp nx6320 with intel centrino duo processor |
| 08:22.33 | beoba | how do i go about remapping ctrl to also work for 0x7d? |
| 08:22.33 | waynayachaq | can u hlp me |
| 08:22.33 | waynayachaq | ? |
| 08:22.33 | beoba | ie pushing 0x7d being considered as a ctrl keypress |
| 08:22.33 | *** join/#debian JohnnyST (i=johnny@mail.osp.fi) |
| 08:22.33 | markybob | !ask |
| 08:22.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 08:22.36 | *** join/#debian simon23 (n=simon@p548889B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:22.58 | streuner | DawnLight: you need 3D support in order to use beryl, what kind of videocard do you have (lspci -v | grep -i vga)? |
| 08:23.02 | Remorse_ | Hi |
| 08:23.06 | rlc | hi |
| 08:23.15 | simon23 | hi- what happened to the kmago (a downloadmanager) package of debian ? i cant find it at the debian feed! |
| 08:23.18 | Remorse_ | unsure |
| 08:23.34 | simon23 | isnt there a tool or site to check if its deprecated? |
| 08:23.35 | beoba | simon23: try packages.debian.org |
| 08:23.45 | simon23 | beoba: did so. |
| 08:23.47 | streuner | simon23: sounds like KDE, just ask in #debian-kde as well |
| 08:24.12 | simon23 | streuner: thanks - didnt know that channel yet. |
| 08:24.16 | jetscreamer | wget |
| 08:25.04 | waynayachaq | i don't know what version install with an intel centrino processor, it could be ia64 or other... i don't know pls hlp me |
| 08:25.24 | streuner | nah, that isn't ia64 |
| 08:25.32 | markybob | waynayachaq, i386 installer |
| 08:25.37 | waynayachaq | cuz i read that ia64 only release itanium processor and i don't know |
| 08:25.39 | streuner | ia64 are a hell expensive.. |
| 08:25.40 | waynayachaq | ok thnkx |
| 08:25.55 | Langly1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.05 | waynayachaq | i only has that question thnx again! |
| 08:26.05 | streuner | !ia64 |
| 08:26.06 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64 |
| 08:26.15 | *** join/#debian idontknow2 (n=idontkno@c58-107-85-3.blktn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:26.36 | waynayachaq | xclnt |
| 08:26.41 | waynayachaq | info thnx |
| 08:26.51 | *** join/#debian loesh (n=loesh@213.136.47.130) |
| 08:28.09 | streuner | waynayachaq: laptop? |
| 08:28.16 | waynayachaq | yes |
| 08:28.17 | *** join/#debian nOp (n=x9090909@bas33-1-82-66-7-9.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:28.25 | streuner | waynayachaq: /msg dpkg laptops |
| 08:28.47 | waynayachaq | oki |
| 08:30.19 | *** join/#debian NefariousPrior (n=nefariou@cpe-72-185-28-118.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 08:32.20 | *** join/#debian khaliko (n=khaliko@84.122.28.128.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:32.42 | stoffell | anyone ever experienced the "unable to type anything in firefox" in debian etch? |
| 08:32.49 | *** join/#debian SimonW (n=simon@host86-143-2-225.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:33.07 | jetscreamer | is that firefox or iceweasel |
| 08:33.18 | *** join/#debian LordLamer (n=lordlame@venus.universe.linuxdelta.de) |
| 08:33.18 | stoffell | it's iceweasel :-) |
| 08:33.26 | *** join/#debian ewanm89 (n=ewanm89@host86-152-205-0.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:33.33 | *** join/#debian ewanm89_ (n=ewanm89@host86-152-205-0.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:34.00 | stoffell | i guess it's not a FF/Iceweasel problem, same problem exists with firefox binaries.. |
| 08:34.23 | *** join/#debian saintiss (n=saintiss@143.129.75.191) |
| 08:34.34 | *** join/#debian stab (n=stab@ppp250-142.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net) |
| 08:35.40 | stab | hiya.. i was hoping someone could help me speed up my boot process - my dhcp server always takes a while |
| 08:37.18 | stab | is there anyway to run just the dhcp script in parallel? |
| 08:38.29 | *** join/#debian oklien (n=oklien@82.117.37.22) |
| 08:38.37 | *** join/#debian peppo (n=slumpmas@c-6c70e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:38.49 | peppo | anyone know of a good place to discuss problems with www.debian-multimedia.org packages? |
| 08:38.54 | *** join/#debian zOap (n=zOap@84.53.35.121) |
| 08:39.11 | *** join/#debian dark_light (n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral) |
| 08:39.33 | cydork | peppo: problems like? |
| 08:39.36 | *** join/#debian kaeos (n=Miranda@A002823.vn.ehu.es) |
| 08:39.55 | peppo | cydork, recent mplayer packages provides very choppy playback in fullscreen |
| 08:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 680] by debhelper |
| 08:40.46 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (n=Tiffon@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:41.23 | peppo | (xv output. other players that output to xv work fine. also tried using stock preferences) |
| 08:42.14 | jetscreamer | peppo: #mplayer maybe |
| 08:42.37 | cydork | peppo: mplayer is there in etch repo too. |
| 08:42.57 | peppo | cydork, etch? |
| 08:43.16 | jetscreamer | testing |
| 08:43.28 | jetscreamer | stable/testing/unstable sarge/etch/sid |
| 08:45.11 | *** join/#debian ebw (n=ebw@p54A3FC77.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:45.21 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:45.35 | *** join/#debian buscon (n=marcello@teotihuacan.nekhem.com) |
| 08:45.50 | MatBoy | why has the Iceweasel icon changed in color ? |
| 08:46.03 | jetscreamer | it thinks it's a gekko? |
| 08:46.10 | MatBoy | because it was difficult to seperate from icedove ? |
| 08:47.21 | *** join/#debian kronic (n=blowfish@28.64.87.203.static.vic.chariot.net.au) |
| 08:48.02 | Gnea | MatBoy: did you check the mailing list archives? |
| 08:48.15 | *** join/#debian Tidus (n=Warren@unaffiliated/tidus) |
| 08:48.26 | MatBoy | Gnea, not yet, but I did a apt-get upgrade yesterday en went to bed :) |
| 08:48.46 | MatBoy | I'm awake now... so I my eyes have to get familair with my monitors again :P |
| 08:50.20 | *** join/#debian Leibsle (n=dieter@unaffiliated/leibsle) |
| 08:50.40 | *** join/#debian BackwardsDown (n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl) |
| 08:51.13 | stab | where is the default location for x11 cursors? there's no cursors dir in /usr/share or /usr/local/share |
| 08:51.44 | *** join/#debian Eclipser (i=jms@xmms2/developer/Eclipser) |
| 08:52.18 | streuner | /usr/local/ are those stuff which you compile yourselfs... |
| 08:52.31 | streuner | they should be in /usr/share/ |
| 08:52.36 | streuner | pixmaps or such |
| 08:53.23 | *** join/#debian oem_ (n=oem@pool-71-163-143-67.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:53.29 | I-kido | maybe /usr/share/icons |
| 08:53.48 | stab | indeed - thanks |
| 08:54.02 | I-kido | :) |
| 08:54.20 | *** join/#debian SEcki (n=SEcki@e181081182.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 08:54.39 | *** join/#debian tydelNL (i=tydel@durka.net-addicts.net) |
| 08:54.44 | jetscreamer | either/or icons/pixmap |
| 08:54.45 | *** join/#debian tenzin (n=tenzin@202.144.144.21) |
| 08:54.47 | *** join/#debian Crypticfortune_ (n=krisp@gw.dna.bio.keio.ac.jp) |
| 08:54.53 | jetscreamer | depending |
| 08:55.32 | *** join/#debian ||arifaX (n=||arifaX@inetpop1.witron.de) |
| 08:56.05 | *** join/#debian defcon8 (n=justin@unaffiliated/defcon8) |
| 08:59.18 | *** join/#debian Sypher (n=Sypher@212.31.236.154) |
| 09:03.46 | *** join/#debian dolmans (n=simon@219.142.192.187) |
| 09:04.54 | *** join/#debian vegiVamp (n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be) |
| 09:06.04 | *** join/#debian _shawn (n=shawn@adsl-70-231-255-214.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) |
| 09:06.16 | *** join/#debian baggend (n=demonban@c-71-56-155-148.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 09:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 09:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 09:06.57 | Crypticfortune_ | anyone here familiar with hiding pci devices from dom0 in xen? I tried " physdev_dom0_hide=(07:04.0) pciback.hide=(07:04.0)" but it's still showing up in my dom0! really quite frustrating.... |
| 09:07.32 | *** join/#debian prumprum (n=prum@esflovia.bitrey.net) |
| 09:08.30 | *** join/#debian jm|work (n=jm@sentry.flags.co.uk) |
| 09:08.51 | jetscreamer | i think this time warner intarweb is like crap |
| 09:09.11 | jetscreamer | keeps dropping connect |
| 09:09.37 | *** part/#debian peppo (n=slumpmas@c-6c70e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:10.11 | prumprum | anyone know a utility that lets me burn my local harddisk to dvd? sort of like "dd" but then to dvd |
| 09:10.50 | *** join/#debian xixor (n=xixor@S010600179adc7088.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 09:11.20 | scv | prumprum: making an iso file? |
| 09:11.35 | streuner | prumpr:apt-cache search backup dvd |
| 09:12.14 | prumprum | streuner, well i'm afraid i get tools to backup dvd's it self |
| 09:12.38 | scv | prumprum: Should you use dvds to backup a 1TB HDD? |
| 09:12.54 | prumprum | scv, luckly it's only 4GB :-) |
| 09:13.02 | scv | o.o |
| 09:13.43 | scv | prumprum: you just need another HDD I think |
| 09:13.53 | *** join/#debian wols (n=klingens@p549DE44F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:14.06 | streuner | !info cedar-backup2 |
| 09:14.10 | dpkg | cedar-backup2: (local and remote backups to CD or DVD media), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 195 kB, Installed size: 1152 kB |
| 09:14.16 | scv | it's more quick,safe and easy |
| 09:14.25 | *** join/#debian _shawn (n=shawn@adsl-70-231-255-214.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) |
| 09:15.05 | *** join/#debian skandaleras (n=luiz@84.77.133.56) |
| 09:15.22 | *** join/#debian simmerz (n=simmerz@82.111.212.201) |
| 09:15.40 | *** join/#debian hark (n=strider@auh-as43541.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 09:16.08 | *** join/#debian NefariousPrior (n=nefariou@cpe-72-185-28-118.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 09:16.21 | scv | I have a huge stack of blank DVDs on my desk, but I don't know what I can burn |
| 09:16.30 | scv | :s |
| 09:16.31 | *** join/#debian Shisui (i=chris@AAmiens-152-1-24-244.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:18.40 | *** join/#debian kurt (n=mule@pD95EB72F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:19.09 | *** join/#debian Deepa|AFK (i=deepa@abused.armchairs.be) |
| 09:19.12 | *** join/#debian scv (n=administ@61-56-177-238.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 09:19.46 | *** join/#debian diskus (i=diskus@lelux.net) |
| 09:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 690] by debhelper |
| 09:20.49 | *** join/#debian hofmandl (n=hofmandl@dslb-088-064-144-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:21.13 | *** join/#debian Ciantic (i=jarppa@staff.golfarit.net) |
| 09:21.33 | *** join/#debian LeVA (n=leva@dsl54003DB4.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 09:22.07 | *** join/#debian benwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 09:22.44 | *** join/#debian visik7 (n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7) |
| 09:23.53 | *** join/#debian skala (n=skala@x1-6-00-50-bf-ed-d0-bc.k380.webspeed.dk) |
| 09:24.57 | *** join/#debian desti (n=desti@p5B01ACDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:25.28 | *** join/#debian muh2000_u (n=muh2000@p57A5A5EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:27.36 | *** join/#debian niru (n=niru@203.129.255.178) |
| 09:29.18 | *** join/#debian maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 09:29.18 | maddash | !find hsqldb-querytool |
| 09:29.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'hsqldb-querytool' (1): (/usr/bin/hsqldb-querytool) in libs/libhsqldb-java. |
| 09:29.19 | *** join/#debian dimir (n=dimir@213.180.103.240) |
| 09:29.19 | *** join/#debian PeNNiSmEn (n=PeNNiSmE@186.Red-80-34-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:29.24 | *** join/#debian dusty-work (n=dusty@host81-139-37-155.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 09:29.53 | *** join/#debian scv (n=administ@61-56-177-238.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 09:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 700] by debhelper |
| 09:30.34 | dimir | Moin! |
| 09:30.42 | scv | now? |
| 09:32.03 | *** join/#debian FreezeS (n=bla@82.208.157.125) |
| 09:32.30 | *** join/#debian Rothgar (n=admin@ppp201-15.static.internode.on.net) |
| 09:33.17 | *** join/#debian C64Freak (n=C64Freak@195.94.210.74) |
| 09:33.33 | *** join/#debian yvhaarle (n=yvhaarle@animal.ugent.be) |
| 09:33.58 | *** join/#debian Sipingal (n=Sipingal@inet-netcache2-o.oracle.com) |
| 09:35.08 | C64Freak | hi guys! I have a problem with wireless device in my laptop S7010. I tried to install ipw2200 driver and firmware. I think I did it well - but I'm not sure. What should I do to verify if my WiFi is installed correctly? |
| 09:35.38 | *** part/#debian benwolf (n=illwolf@149.135.18.232) |
| 09:35.55 | *** join/#debian melodos (n=melodos@88.218.12.157) |
| 09:35.55 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h74n1fls33o998.telia.com) |
| 09:35.59 | melodos | hi all |
| 09:36.09 | petemc | C64Freak: trying to connect to a wireless network would be one thing to try.. |
| 09:36.11 | c1ru | wenas |
| 09:36.30 | *** join/#debian DigitalOktay (n=DigitalO@134.155.247.135) |
| 09:36.38 | melodos | could someone tell me whats the easiest virtual platform out there to set up on debian? |
| 09:36.39 | DigitalOktay | dpkg --configure -a |
| 09:36.50 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl (n=az@145.89.182.110) |
| 09:36.51 | dusty-work | Hey guys I have a really wierd problem. I run an ubuntu gateway at my work, it provides inet access to the workstations.. usually when i come into work my boss is like the internet is not working low and behold when i check the workstations there is not inet connectivity, when i goto the gateway i push the monitor button and it just flashes as if it can't come on, so i have to hard reboot, it comes back up and everything isf |
| 09:36.51 | dusty-work | ine. This happens 4/5 days mon-fri. I Have looked at the logs and can't see anything, the hardware is fine.. any ideas what could be causing this as i need to get to the bottom? |
| 09:37.30 | DigitalOktay | could i install debian on my server? |
| 09:37.33 | niru | Could not run "su" |
| 09:37.44 | niru | what does that mean even if I am in root |
| 09:37.50 | rlc | you tell me |
| 09:37.59 | *** join/#debian DeliPenguen (n=tugrul@ns1.tugrul.org) |
| 09:38.15 | scv | niru: what? |
| 09:38.52 | Ronin | DigitalOktay: why not? |
| 09:38.52 | scv | niru: don't you have a su in the /bin? |
| 09:38.53 | niru | scv:In my system Desktop-->Administration-->Services |
| 09:39.13 | DigitalOktay | but is not in testing the etch |
| 09:39.14 | *** join/#debian nextime (n=nextime@unaffiliated/nextime) |
| 09:39.17 | niru | when I open Services it shows Could not run "su" no permission |
| 09:39.22 | DigitalOktay | ? |
| 09:39.35 | niru | scv:I have su in /bin |
| 09:39.42 | scv | niru: are you using pam? |
| 09:40.00 | niru | scv:whats that |
| 09:40.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 706] by debhelper |
| 09:40.04 | scv | ... |
| 09:40.49 | scv | niru: take a look on your /etc/pam.d |
| 09:40.54 | nextime | hello. I'm packaging a couple of python modules that i can't find in sid or even in incoming/experimental. What's the right packaging to be adopted, a single package with both modules for py2.3 and py2.4, or two different packages, one for any python version? |
| 09:41.12 | C64Freak | petemc: but when I use iwconfig it says there are no devices with wireless extensions |
| 09:41.13 | *** join/#debian SimonW (n=simon@host86-143-2-225.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:41.16 | nextime | i see packages of both types actually |
| 09:41.24 | niru | scv:su is there in pam.d |
| 09:41.30 | *** join/#debian zophy (n=vaio@host-242-6-111-24.midco.net) |
| 09:42.12 | niru | scv:? |
| 09:43.09 | Ronin | DigitalOktay: ? |
| 09:43.54 | simonrvn | DigitalOktay: etch *is* testing... |
| 09:44.08 | petemc | C64Freak: then you may want to check how you set up the card |
| 09:44.10 | *** join/#debian brr-brr-click (n=brr-brr-@222-154-239-122.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:44.38 | *** join/#debian KermitTheFragger (n=ktf@118-197.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 09:44.53 | *** join/#debian scx (n=somebody@unaffiliated/scx) |
| 09:46.58 | torrr | anyone knows webdav? |
| 09:47.07 | brr-brr-click | ive just installed from a netnist iso. (debian-31r5-i386-netnist.iso). I need a 2.6 Kernel, but this installed a 2.4 kernel. Is that normal? Can i upgrade |
| 09:47.36 | *** join/#debian utrrrongeeb (n=mhciipec@dunken03.isn.net) |
| 09:48.04 | *** part/#debian nextime (n=nextime@unaffiliated/nextime) |
| 09:48.29 | jetscreamer | it's normal because you didn't specify linux26 when you booted the cd |
| 09:48.36 | jetscreamer | yes you can just apt-get a new kernel |
| 09:48.43 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 09:48.50 | jetscreamer | then pick and install one |
| 09:49.13 | jetscreamer | the default behavoir with the etch installer is a 2.6 though.. sarge defaults to 2.4 |
| 09:49.25 | brr-brr-click | OK |
| 09:49.46 | brr-brr-click | i take it that somewhere teh installer asks the question |
| 09:49.55 | jetscreamer | also, in etch they changed the name to linux-image |
| 09:50.12 | jetscreamer | no, you have to hit f1 or so when it boots, or read the docs |
| 09:50.30 | brr-brr-click | thanks jet, you've been really helpful |
| 09:50.32 | brr-brr-click | :-) |
| 09:50.34 | jetscreamer | np |
| 09:51.42 | brr-brr-click | new to debian. |
| 09:51.48 | brr-brr-click | comes with a new job |
| 09:52.02 | scx | nice job |
| 09:52.17 | *** part/#debian utrrrongeeb (n=mhciipec@dunken03.isn.net) |
| 09:53.07 | *** join/#debian zly (n=zly@5634dfcf.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 09:53.44 | *** join/#debian HowlingMad (n=Mk@88-96-119-131.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 09:54.57 | HowlingMad | i normaly use software raid in this situation but can i install debian etch onto a intel raid 0 partition the board is ich 6 or 7, there is something else on the drive and dont want to wipe other os at this stage ? |
| 09:55.34 | C64Freak | petemc: how to check is WiFi card is installed correctly? |
| 09:55.49 | C64Freak | any useful commands? |
| 09:59.15 | wols | C64Freak: iwconfig from wireless tools |
| 09:59.17 | Gnea | !wireless |
| 09:59.17 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or and Linksys WPC11 support: http://z.cwriter.org/index.php/wifi/Cartes/WPC11+debian+how-to |
| 09:59.45 | *** part/#debian jkp_ (n=jkp@80-47-93-133.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com) |
| 10:00.10 | C64Freak | thanks dpkg |
| 10:00.10 | dpkg | de nada, C64Freak |
| 10:00.44 | C64Freak | dpkg: as usually u give some good hints |
| 10:00.54 | wols | !botsnack |
| 10:00.54 | dpkg | :), wols |
| 10:02.28 | brr-brr-click | thanks jet! I've got that 2.6 kernel now |
| 10:02.32 | wols | nevyn: do a dependency python2.3 | python2.4 and in your postins script check for both and generate the extension for each installed |
| 10:02.45 | wols | *postinst |
| 10:03.08 | wols | but "proper" is to make two debs, for each python vresion a separate one |
| 10:03.13 | wols | and: etch has python 2.5 IIRC |
| 10:03.48 | wols | that and since etch is frozen, I wouldn't do (much) for python2.3 from sarge |
| 10:04.20 | *** join/#debian cunzhang (n=opera@218.7.43.198) |
| 10:05.51 | *** join/#debian hazel| (n=ore01@a81-14-161-236.net-htp.de) |
| 10:06.54 | DigitalOktay | but makes it problems? |
| 10:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 10:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 10:07.17 | wols | have you ever seen software that didn't make problems? |
| 10:07.21 | cunzhang | I'm using Debian sid and KDM and KDE, when I start KDM from a console,nothing happens.then I run 'killall kdm' and 'kdm',then KDE starts.what's wrong with it?? |
| 10:07.41 | wols | you start kdm wrongly |
| 10:07.47 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.57 | wols | tho that should happen automatically on bootup |
| 10:08.36 | DigitalOktay | here /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 10:08.42 | cunzhang | wols,but why it can start the second time?? |
| 10:09.10 | cunzhang | wols, DigitalOktay,thank you for your help! :) |
| 10:09.47 | *** join/#debian un1xer (n=chatzill@193.136.66.252) |
| 10:10.10 | wols | cause unless you use more than one display you can only have one displaymanager |
| 10:10.24 | DigitalOktay | when you have Gnome then /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 10:10.28 | wols | if you want to use two, you have to confiugre two DISPLAYs |
| 10:10.54 | cunzhang | wols,I have no one displaymanager when I run 'kdm'. |
| 10:11.09 | wols | I told you it's the wrong way to start kdm in the first place |
| 10:11.21 | cunzhang | wols: I have known! |
| 10:11.32 | wols | if you knew why did you do it then? |
| 10:12.04 | cunzhang | wols, I just know it after you told me! |
| 10:12.28 | *** join/#debian AndrewB_ (n=andy@88-109-46-122.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 10:12.32 | scx | could anybody here please run ls -n /dev/dazuko |
| 10:12.40 | scx | and tell me what permissions it has? |
| 10:12.41 | wols | cunzhang: the question remains: why isn't it starting up directly after boot? |
| 10:12.56 | cunzhang | wols,I just want to know why I can start kdm when I run 'kdm' at the second time |
| 10:12.59 | wols | scx: does not exist |
| 10:13.23 | scx | exists just if dazuko module from clamav is loaded |
| 10:13.36 | scx | err: for |
| 10:13.37 | wols | cunzhang: do you know what error messages are? the first kdm will produce some. somewhere when "nothing happens" |
| 10:13.45 | cunzhang | wols,it start up directly after boot,then I come into console via KDM because I want to upgrade debian |
| 10:14.05 | wols | cunzhang: huh? |
| 10:14.13 | cunzhang | wols,but I can't see anything from the console |
| 10:14.24 | wols | you don't need to stop X, kdm or anything elseto upgrade it. |
| 10:14.29 | wols | debian is not windows |
| 10:14.41 | cunzhang | wols, :) |
| 10:15.10 | wols | you can run apt-get dist-upgrade from inside X without any problems |
| 10:15.14 | HowlingMad | i normaly use software raid in this situation but can i install debian etch onto a intel raid 0 partition the board is ich 6 or 7, there is something else on the drive and dont want to wipe other os at this stage ? |
| 10:15.15 | DigitalOktay | windows is bullshit |
| 10:15.30 | wols | DigitalOktay: get a clue |
| 10:15.30 | cunzhang | wols, you can try it,close your KDM and KDE,then run 'kdm' from console |
| 10:15.44 | wols | cunzhang: IF I had kde, kdm or even X installed |
| 10:16.00 | cunzhang | wols, :D |
| 10:16.01 | DigitalOktay | i tested the new windows vista |
| 10:16.18 | cunzhang | DigitalOktay: do you have one? |
| 10:16.39 | wols | !prize DigitalOktay |
| 10:17.20 | DigitalOktay | no, my friend buys a new computer but he delete vista and makes Debian |
| 10:18.50 | cunzhang | DigitalOktay: I need Word to deal with doc |
| 10:18.59 | *** join/#debian Sniper (n=Administ@212.34.237.229) |
| 10:19.10 | HowlingMad | USE it then |
| 10:19.16 | scx | !tell about wine and office |
| 10:19.31 | scx | !? |
| 10:19.33 | *** join/#debian gotaku (n=gotaku@S010600119502636d.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 10:19.37 | *** part/#debian Sniper (n=Administ@212.34.237.229) |
| 10:19.37 | cunzhang | so I use Windows and Debian |
| 10:19.45 | cunzhang | scx, :) |
| 10:19.48 | HowlingMad | openoffice opens and saves ms format files |
| 10:19.50 | DigitalOktay | the price for new windows is 500 € and the OEM Version is 180 € |
| 10:19.53 | gotaku | I just noticed that the IceWeasel logo is no longer bright neon green ;) |
| 10:20.15 | DigitalOktay | yes, the iceweasel logo is now blue |
| 10:20.17 | DigitalOktay | :D:D:D |
| 10:20.17 | *** join/#debian tralala (n=joro@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 10:20.19 | gotaku | I say I just noticed because I made mine blue a long time ago, |
| 10:20.35 | scx | Vista disapointed me, I really thought Microsucks were making a rather good job this time |
| 10:20.51 | gotaku | Mine still looks cooler though. |
| 10:20.56 | *** join/#debian dark_light (n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral) |
| 10:21.11 | scx | My KDE looks nicer than Vista tho |
| 10:21.20 | DigitalOktay | (gotaku): yesterday i see the blue logo, with apt-get upgrade |
| 10:21.24 | DigitalOktay | yes SCX |
| 10:21.27 | DigitalOktay | ;-) |
| 10:21.48 | gotaku | DigitalOktay: Is it blue or purple? |
| 10:22.32 | DigitalOktay | mix between blue an purple |
| 10:22.36 | DigitalOktay | and |
| 10:22.53 | cunzhang | when Debian will come out?? |
| 10:23.04 | Pinchiukas | I'm trying to make computers behind a router connect to the wow server through a ssh tunnel, these are the commands I use: http://www.paste.lt/paste/2ffb0c6e43426f8a9b11a57622d1d4be anything wrong? cause they can't connect :) I enter these commands on the router |
| 10:23.06 | *** join/#debian phorce1 (n=gvl2@cpe-67-10-126-52.gt.res.rr.com) |
| 10:23.10 | *** part/#debian brr-brr-click (n=brr-brr-@222-154-239-122.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 10:23.27 | scx | wow server? |
| 10:23.41 | *** join/#debian vigneswari (n=vigneswa@203.129.255.178) |
| 10:23.59 | *** part/#debian gotaku (n=gotaku@S010600119502636d.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 10:24.03 | scv | ... |
| 10:24.22 | litage | when compiling some software, it fails with "Your Compiler does not do propper IEEE math". i've googled around but can't figure out how to solve this. any suggestions? |
| 10:24.29 | scx | scv: howdy my bizarro |
| 10:25.07 | Gnea | litage: what program are you compiling? |
| 10:25.09 | Pinchiukas | scx: world of warcraft |
| 10:25.20 | scx | ah... |
| 10:25.44 | cunzhang | scx,so many people play it around me |
| 10:26.38 | Gnea | wow is about as bad as eq |
| 10:26.38 | scx | I am more interested in ET |
| 10:26.39 | litage | Gnea: zenoss |
| 10:26.44 | cunzhang | Gnea,what game is good? |
| 10:27.30 | DigitalOktay | (litage): which dir do you give in the terminal? |
| 10:27.37 | tralala | somebody in here gave me a mini howto for fglrx on sarge. I've exhausted my google voodoo skills but I couldn't find it. Does anybody know a good one by any chance? |
| 10:27.46 | *** join/#debian f00li5h (n=f00li5h@c211-31-61-236.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:27.51 | scx | Pinchiukas: is't it: someuser@someserver.com |
| 10:27.54 | litage | DigitalOktay: not sure what you're asking |
| 10:27.57 | Gnea | cunzhang: tetris :D |
| 10:28.15 | Gnea | cunzhang: and yars revenge |
| 10:28.19 | scx | !fglrx |
| 10:28.19 | dpkg | The binary driver made available by ATI. See <fglrx one-liner> for installation. see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver for a non-debian installation method |
| 10:28.37 | f00li5h | is there an faq about making sata disks play nice? |
| 10:28.46 | cunzhang | Gnea ... |
| 10:28.51 | tralala | scx: obviously that's the first thing I've checked |
| 10:29.03 | Gnea | cunzhang: old school games, real games.. perhaps you've heard of them |
| 10:29.27 | scx | srry, forgot you are not a newb |
| 10:29.28 | cunzhang | Gnea,I just know tetris |
| 10:29.41 | cunzhang | Gnea: but I don't know yars revenge |
| 10:29.48 | Pinchiukas | scx: no, it's correct |
| 10:29.52 | Gnea | cunzhang: it's an atari 2600 game |
| 10:30.01 | Gnea | i think they made a linux version |
| 10:30.17 | cunzhang | Gnea,I will try to find it |
| 10:30.54 | Gnea | cunzhang: iirc, it's called something else |
| 10:31.06 | Gnea | litage: i'm looking into this zenoss |
| 10:32.02 | litage | Gnea: it's a pretty cool project. takes a bit to fully understand how everything's laid out and done, but once you get it, it's powerful |
| 10:32.07 | DigitalOktay | hey channel i must to go |
| 10:32.09 | DigitalOktay | BYe |
| 10:32.11 | DigitalOktay | nice day |
| 10:32.14 | litage | cya |
| 10:32.23 | *** join/#debian si0ux (n=si0ux@carol-200-225-216-097.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) |
| 10:32.48 | *** part/#debian cunzhang (n=opera@218.7.43.198) |
| 10:34.06 | Gnea | litage: hrm, and they have support packages - nice. |
| 10:35.49 | Gnea | ah here we go |
| 10:35.52 | Gnea | !dbugs 361253 |
| 10:35.56 | dpkg | #361253:W[wnpp] ITP: zenoss -- Zenoss is a powerful, integrated, easy-to-use IT infrastructure monitoring software product.; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:03:09 UTC |
| 10:36.14 | Gnea | someone's already working on a package |
| 10:36.27 | DawnLight | hey people, which cd/dvd burner for gnome, huh, really? |
| 10:36.32 | *** join/#debian x_link (n=sedde@c83-254-151-150.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 10:36.35 | Gnea | litage: what compiler version are you using? |
| 10:37.00 | *** join/#debian Kimahri (n=Warren@unaffiliated/tidus) |
| 10:37.02 | DawnLight | this is for a non-technical person (mom) |
| 10:37.11 | *** join/#debian Elephantman (n=Cory@vai69-1-82-67-45-194.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:37.19 | Elephantman | hello |
| 10:37.23 | *** join/#debian chronographer (n=alex@222.84.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 10:37.23 | Gnea | DawnLight: sounds like it, because i can't understand your attempted english |
| 10:37.42 | Elephantman | I have in the past blocked several packages from upgrading, only I dont recall the command I used |
| 10:37.44 | Gnea | no biggie, i helped my own mom learn linux ;) |
| 10:37.48 | chronographer | good morning, i have a broken package, namely doodled, can you help me get rid of it? its a daemon... on ethc |
| 10:37.54 | chronographer | *etch |
| 10:37.57 | Elephantman | now I want to unblock them, what must I do ? |
| 10:38.06 | HowlingMad | i normaly use software raid in this situation but can i install debian etch onto a intel raid 0 partition the board is ich 6 or 7, there is something else on the drive and dont want to wipe other os at this stage ? |
| 10:38.14 | litage | Gnea: i'm not sure if you're asking me which version of gcc, g++, cpp, etc i'm using =/ |
| 10:38.15 | HowlingMad | or is it i cant |
| 10:38.24 | *** join/#debian Tidus__ (n=Warren@12-207-90-235.client.mchsi.com) |
| 10:38.26 | Gnea | litage: yes, yes, yes, and sure |
| 10:38.41 | chronographer | E: doodled: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 is the error when synaptic is asked to remove it |
| 10:38.51 | DawnLight | i am trying to choose an easy cdburner for my mom |
| 10:39.05 | wols | chronographer: that's not the error |
| 10:39.07 | Gnea | DawnLight: and you haven't tried any out? |
| 10:39.10 | chronographer | oh. |
| 10:39.12 | litage | Gnea: http://rafb.net/p/kcyrqj51.html |
| 10:39.19 | wols | chronographer: it's a followup error you could say |
| 10:39.21 | chronographer | whats the error? |
| 10:39.32 | wols | how should I know? it's your install, not mine |
| 10:39.45 | torrr | anyone knows how to add contrib non-free to etch 's source list? |
| 10:39.55 | Gnea | litage: sounds like a problem. what are the outputs of gXX --version ? |
| 10:40.33 | *** join/#debian triplc (n=triplc@210.245.48.127) |
| 10:40.37 | chronographer | torr: go into /etc/apt/sources.list and add "contrib non-free" to the end of the lines saying deb....../debinan... |
| 10:41.15 | chronographer | or go into desktop administration software properties for GUI |
| 10:41.30 | litage | Gnea: http://rafb.net/p/mhPxvU42.html |
| 10:41.35 | wols | chronographer: before your "error line", there are other errors. use dpkg to remove it, not a GUI |
| 10:41.36 | torrr | chronographer: I did but |
| 10:41.48 | chronographer | ? |
| 10:41.51 | wols | torrr: not all mirrors have contrib and unfree |
| 10:42.00 | torrr | it can't stat when I add it |
| 10:42.01 | chronographer | apt-get remove gave errors first |
| 10:42.15 | wols | chronographer: yes and those are better suited to troubleshooting |
| 10:42.17 | chronographer | if you add it then go "apt-get update" |
| 10:42.25 | *** join/#debian a-atwood_home (n=xf009976@67.136.147.131) |
| 10:42.28 | torrr | so I need to find a mirror that have it.. how? |
| 10:42.45 | torrr | ah, I didn't update |
| 10:42.48 | chronographer | all mirrors have it i thought??? |
| 10:42.48 | torrr | right |
| 10:42.53 | torrr | I'll tray |
| 10:43.01 | chronographer | yes apt-get update, then apt-get upGRADE |
| 10:43.10 | chronographer | (without caps) |
| 10:43.18 | torrr | ok |
| 10:43.38 | chronographer | it failed to stop the daemon |
| 10:43.41 | triplc | hi all, i've just install debian and install timidity; i need to add a soundfont (sf2) to replace the current (freepats) tone 24 (guitar) but i do not know how to do it. the soundfont file is downloaded but if i use "soundfont ...." directive in timidity.cfg, it simply change the tone 1 (piano). can anyone please help. i am sorry for asking about timidity here, but i do not know timidity channel. google does not have answer (sorry) |
| 10:43.41 | *** part/#debian tralala (n=joro@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 10:43.57 | *** part/#debian DawnLight (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 10:43.57 | Gnea | litage: that could be part of the problem... i've seen issues with gcc 3.3 trying to compile kernels before... 3.4 or 4.0 seemed to work just fine... 3.4 is rock-solid stable, though |
| 10:44.00 | chronographer | is there a way to stop the doodled daemon for real? |
| 10:44.01 | torrr | should I add it=contrib+nonfree to the src mirror too? |
| 10:44.15 | simmerz | is there an easy way to get bash/vim doing colour coding of the shell/files? |
| 10:44.21 | wols | chronographer: is it running? |
| 10:44.23 | *** join/#debian NefariousPrior (n=nefariou@cpe-72-185-28-118.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 10:44.25 | chronographer | yes |
| 10:44.29 | Gnea | litage: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc and anything else linked to gcc/g++-3.3 |
| 10:44.33 | chronographer | how to stop it? |
| 10:44.34 | wols | then stop it manually first |
| 10:44.42 | Gnea | litage: that *might* fix it |
| 10:44.43 | chronographer | type "doodled stop" ?? |
| 10:44.46 | f00li5h | simmerz: :set ft=bash ; :syn on |
| 10:44.51 | wols | !tell chronographer about grounding |
| 10:44.52 | NefariousPrior | Anyone have any luck getting mod_bt working on apache2.2 in etch? |
| 10:44.57 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.00 | litage | Gnea: thanks, i'll try that |
| 10:45.07 | wols | man kill is also an excellent read |
| 10:45.21 | wols | !anyone |
| 10:45.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 10:45.33 | *** join/#debian domster (n=dominics@125-238-112-64.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) |
| 10:45.48 | Gnea | ah ha! vector's revenge!!! :D |
| 10:45.59 | NefariousPrior | ok........ |
| 10:46.08 | *** join/#debian Cem_UNAL (n=cemunal@88.231.104.199) |
| 10:46.17 | NefariousPrior | Why doesn't mod_bt with apache2.2 in etch work out of the box? |
| 10:46.37 | wols | !tell NefariousPrior about bts |
| 10:46.42 | Gnea | ok, vectors revenge is pure crap. |
| 10:47.59 | NefariousPrior | !tell wols to take a deep breath and chill out. |
| 10:48.13 | chronographer | lol |
| 10:48.37 | NefariousPrior | sadly dpkg refused. lol |
| 10:48.38 | chronographer | !tell chronographer how to kill a daemon without glovess of daemon killing +10 |
| 10:48.47 | NefariousPrior | good one |
| 10:48.48 | simmerz | f00li5h: thanks |
| 10:48.52 | *** join/#debian spytrdr (i=slc@host140.201-252-51.telecom.net.ar) |
| 10:49.11 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xC5C71DCE) |
| 10:49.29 | chronographer | no seriously, i want this thing gone , so please wols, can you help me stop the daemon doodled from running so i can remove it? |
| 10:49.47 | simmerz | f00li5h: where might I do that permanently? |
| 10:49.48 | wols | man kill |
| 10:49.54 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 10:50.00 | NefariousPrior | My initial question implied that I didn't know what I was doing and would take ANY suggestions from ANYONE concerning it's configuration. If someone knows a better way to convey that then by all means, inform me. |
| 10:50.04 | torrr | chronographer: thanks it works :D |
| 10:50.08 | simmerz | and it hasn't done any php syntax highlighting - do I need to install any other packages? |
| 10:50.10 | *** join/#debian Scurz (n=sfantar@unaffiliated/Scurz) |
| 10:50.13 | chronographer | np torrr |
| 10:50.17 | chronographer | any time |
| 10:50.29 | chronographer | we all were new once ( and still am ) |
| 10:50.31 | torrr | :D |
| 10:50.43 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xC5C71DCE) |
| 10:50.51 | wols | chronographer: what if you kill its process? |
| 10:51.25 | *** join/#debian _JP (i=jaxr@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi) |
| 10:51.44 | chronographer | so if i go "kill -l doodled" ??? |
| 10:51.58 | chronographer | i don't know how to use kill, i am reading the man now tho... |
| 10:52.07 | wols | good |
| 10:52.42 | chronographer | if i go kill 9 doodled it will die pretty good right? |
| 10:52.50 | chronographer | this is not dangerous is it??? |
| 10:53.28 | zophy | you can lose data |
| 10:53.56 | vorsprung | chronographer, that isn't how kill works you kill by pid, not program name |
| 10:53.57 | scx | the datta related to "doodle" |
| 10:54.18 | zophy | open filehandles will not be flushed |
| 10:54.19 | vorsprung | chronographer, kill -9 is usually recommended as a last resort |
| 10:54.22 | scx | chronographer: to kill by name use killall |
| 10:54.34 | jelly-home | pkill > killall |
| 10:54.37 | chronographer | so " killall doodled" |
| 10:54.47 | chronographer | ? how to find a programs pid? |
| 10:54.52 | scx | ps -A |
| 10:54.55 | vorsprung | chronographer, with ps |
| 10:54.55 | wols | !tell chronographer about grounding |
| 10:54.58 | *** join/#debian CompWizrd (i=compwiz@d57-66-0.home.cgocable.net) |
| 10:55.04 | *** join/#debian oklien (n=oklien@82.117.37.22) |
| 10:55.06 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (n=yogurt2u@host210.190-31-150.telecom.net.ar) |
| 10:56.40 | litage | Gnea: awesome, i think that fixed the problem |
| 10:57.32 | chronographer | it doesn't appear in the list... |
| 10:57.37 | scx | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.52 | zophy | a loop device |
| 10:57.57 | NefariousPrior | used for loopback filesystems I think. |
| 10:58.03 | scx | oh really ?! |
| 10:58.21 | Kevin` | scx it's a block device that can be attached to a regular file on the system and used like any other device.. mounted etc |
| 10:58.22 | scx | NefariousPrior: ah, ok |
| 10:58.41 | *** part/#debian Elephantman (n=Cory@vai69-1-82-67-45-194.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:58.50 | NefariousPrior | Many loopback filesystem tutorials show how to use it , but I just mount with -o loop. Don't know why you would need the specify the device. |
| 10:59.07 | _JP | i'm creating a .deb package with checkinstall. i'm able to add required packages with "--requires=blaa" but how do i specify the required version? "--requires=blaa>=1.2.3" doesn't work |
| 10:59.19 | scx | no just ran ps and saw loop0 |
| 10:59.27 | bilsta | hi, im trying to see how many connections going out of the box on a certain ip address. i'm trying to use "netstat -a | grep 194.24.188.124" - it seems to work with other ip address, but with that one it doesnt, and i know there are connections going out on that ip |
| 10:59.32 | scx | never used it or seen it before |
| 10:59.36 | scx | so wandered |
| 11:00.30 | scx | bilsta: might the IP changed ? |
| 11:00.33 | Kevin` | scx the most common use of it is to mount normal files like iso images, hard drive images, as a normal filesystem |
| 11:00.39 | *** join/#debian AfterBurner (i=UPP@c934278f.virtua.com.br) |
| 11:00.41 | _JP | "doesn't work" == the version is not taken into account by checkinstall and an empty file called "=1.2.3" is created in cwd |
| 11:00.53 | *** join/#debian Tidus (n=Warren@unaffiliated/tidus) |
| 11:01.11 | scx | Kevin`: ah... yah, I've used it, now I remember |
| 11:01.27 | *** join/#debian spacepup (n=spacepup@211.181.142.147) |
| 11:01.37 | scx | Kevin`: it's being used for isos actually... thanks :) |
| 11:01.39 | *** part/#debian chronographer (n=alex@222.84.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 11:01.51 | bilsta | scx: nope, i'm certain that the ip is their, as the connections are actually bouncer connections to the quakenet network, which i have a trust on, that is the only trusted ip address i have, thus if it had changed i could only have 5 clients connected to quakenet, but haver more than 5 |
| 11:02.24 | *** join/#debian MindCr (n=MindCr@86.Red-83-52-57.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:02.38 | scx | bilsta: well it should show what you want, but what about using ntop ? |
| 11:03.01 | bilsta | what is ntop ? |
| 11:03.40 | *** join/#debian _rd_ (n=rd@eth1311.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 11:03.44 | cast | !tell TelVGG-Ariel about away |
| 11:03.46 | wols | bilsta: apt-cache show ntop |
| 11:05.15 | *** join/#debian dpkg (n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 11:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 11:07.01 | *** join/#debian dury (n=chatzill@55.Red-217-127-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:07.32 | *** join/#debian ofer1 (n=ofer@line134-60.adsl.actcom.co.il) |
| 11:09.20 | *** part/#debian Cem_UNAL (n=cemunal@88.231.104.199) |
| 11:09.24 | torrr | does any one use webdav? |
| 11:10.04 | dury | hi there channel :) |
| 11:11.08 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl_ (n=az@145.89.182.110) |
| 11:12.37 | *** join/#debian bzed (n=bzed@dslb-084-059-105-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:13.21 | *** join/#debian twobitsprite (n=isaac@cpe-066-057-227-090.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:13.37 | dury | this distro http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ recognize my sound card ... and debian 3.1 sarge doesn't, why that? |
| 11:14.03 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@87.139.74.16) |
| 11:14.19 | twobitsprite | I'm having problems mounting my ipod... I see the right stuff in dmesg... but I can't mount /dev/sda[1-3], says "special devices doesn't exist" or "not a valid block device"...? |
| 11:14.44 | *** join/#debian x_link (n=sedde@c83-254-151-150.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 11:14.48 | twobitsprite | dury: why not use etch? |
| 11:14.52 | *** join/#debian g8m (n=evil@cp82868-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl) |
| 11:15.19 | dury | but in the other side debian 3.1 sarge can see the my office network and http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ it doesn't |
| 11:16.07 | dury | twobitsprite: what's -> etch? |
| 11:16.41 | wols | !tell dury about alsa one-liner |
| 11:16.51 | wols | and it helps to know which soundcard it is |
| 11:17.16 | twobitsprite | dury: etch is debian testing... i.e. it's newer than sarge |
| 11:17.51 | GutterPunk | I'd like to bring a server down. How do I enforce all disks to be checked + fixed on this next reboot? |
| 11:18.20 | torrr | I have just tried to install tomcat.. however localhost:8080 isn't there...? |
| 11:19.17 | scx | man fsck |
| 11:19.41 | scx | torrr: is the service started? |
| 11:19.44 | bzed | GutterPunk: touch /forcefsck |
| 11:20.19 | bzed | GutterPunk: if a disk is _really_ broken you could need to repair it manually |
| 11:20.49 | ma3x | hello |
| 11:20.50 | torrr | scx: ps axfj | grep tomcat; showed nothing |
| 11:20.52 | dury | ok guys I have to go I will read and probe that cya all |
| 11:21.09 | ma3x | can someone explain me why when I type xmodmap -e "keycode 117 = Multi_key" it disappears after some time? howcan I save it? |
| 11:21.45 | GutterPunk | bzed, actually it is a 2 disk mirror. does this make a difference in how it should be done? |
| 11:21.46 | scx | torrr: /etc/init.d/tomcat status |
| 11:22.10 | Eulex | ma3x, stuff set with xmodmap will only last until you restart X |
| 11:22.27 | ma3x | Eulex: I didn't even restart it, it disappeared |
| 11:22.32 | ma3x | Eulex: how do I make it permanent? |
| 11:22.41 | Eulex | ma3x, or do you mean that it 'disappears' while X is running? then some other program must be changing it |
| 11:22.48 | *** join/#debian cokeslut (n=rip@95.144-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 11:22.51 | ma3x | Eulex: what program? I don't know |
| 11:22.55 | ma3x | Eulex: how do I make it permanent? |
| 11:23.11 | bzed | GutterPunk: no, as you're checking filesystems, not mirrors. you could set FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS to be sure your fschk goes trough if you don't have remote access to the machine |
| 11:23.43 | Eulex | ma3x, I've as little idea as you. to make it permanent, you could edit your X keymap or create your own keymap. I don't remember where this is stored, though. |
| 11:23.55 | *** join/#debian shao_lap (n=shaolin@p5481CED9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:24.15 | ma3x | Eulex: read the manpages |
| 11:24.28 | *** join/#debian pokharel (n=pokharel@202.79.37.177) |
| 11:24.32 | torrr | Tomcat 5 servlet engine is running with Java pid 18868 |
| 11:24.41 | Eulex | ma3x, hmm? |
| 11:25.01 | ma3x | Eulex: there has to be a command to make it permanent |
| 11:25.11 | Eulex | ma3x, there isn't. |
| 11:25.18 | ma3x | Eulex: impossible |
| 11:25.22 | torrr | there is some java on ports 8005 8009 and 8180 |
| 11:26.04 | *** join/#debian HymnToLife (n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:26.22 | Eulex | ma3x, or well, the right command would be $YOUR_FAVORITE_EDITOR $THE_KEYMAP_FILE, then edit the file to do what you want and and save it. |
| 11:27.11 | GutterPunk | bzed, thanks for the help! Does the output of this disk check get logged somewhere? |
| 11:27.13 | *** join/#debian spacepup (n=spacepup@211.181.142.147) |
| 11:27.20 | ma3x | Eulex: what's the keymap file? |
| 11:27.30 | Eulex | ma3x, that's what I don't remember. |
| 11:27.47 | *** join/#debian Averell (n=averell@p3m/member/Averell) |
| 11:27.50 | ma3x | who knows what's the keymap file? |
| 11:28.43 | bzed | GutterPunk: not sure :\ I guess that if it doesn't write a log by it's own, then /etc/default/bootlogd will help you |
| 11:29.10 | Crypticfortune_ | question for anyone doing dual-monitor config: if my nvidia twinview set up is correct, should gdm appear on both monitors? or do i need to actually log in? |
| 11:29.39 | GutterPunk | bzed, alright. Great! I hope this doesn't take too long to come back up though :) |
| 11:29.48 | bzed | GutterPunk: but the fsck command is using logsave, so I assume it's written down later |
| 11:30.08 | bzed | GutterPunk: depends on the disk size ;) |
| 11:30.44 | GutterPunk | Ah I should be alright :) 250GB |
| 11:31.21 | *** join/#debian jrib (n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 11:31.51 | *** join/#debian Drool (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:35.08 | *** join/#debian spacepup (n=spacepup@211.181.142.147) |
| 11:35.48 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@ADSL-TPLUS-89-124.telecomplus.net) |
| 11:37.44 | *** join/#debian pascutti (n=angelo@201.66.25.150) |
| 11:37.47 | *** join/#debian empath (i=ssf@c-1adce255.111-12-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:38.46 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 11:39.38 | *** join/#debian bier_ (n=bier@p54A53D8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:39.50 | *** join/#debian Thms (n=Thms@AAmiens-153-1-24-207.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:44.01 | CAiRO | how can i unload the ipv6 modules without rebooting? i get a modules in use even though i wouldn't know which program uses it |
| 11:44.26 | *** join/#debian vin` (n=nach@unaffiliated/takatumi) |
| 11:44.44 | Fox | CAiRO: don't you have a v6 ip on one interface ? |
| 11:44.49 | sep | CAiRO, /sbin/ifconfig, perhaps you have ipv6 on a interface |
| 11:45.18 | CAiRO | hmm, yes, i have.. how do i turn them off? |
| 11:45.43 | CAiRO | ideally without deactiviation the interfaces :) |
| 11:45.50 | CAiRO | deactivating |
| 11:46.10 | Fox | man ifconfig CAiRO |
| 11:46.13 | *** join/#debian oklien (n=oklien@82.117.37.22) |
| 11:46.23 | CAiRO | in my /etc/interfaces/network i haven't set any ipv6 addresses.. so i wonder why they get them |
| 11:46.46 | Fox | it's the default |
| 11:48.11 | *** join/#debian s (n=s@pc-70-239.gp.TU-Berlin.DE) |
| 11:48.35 | *** join/#debian Pinchiukas (n=pi@88.119.44.156) |
| 11:48.52 | CAiRO | hmm, the silly man page is wrong, in the options area it doesn't mark which of the commands are user arguments and which are keywords |
| 11:49.19 | CAiRO | it says "del addr/prefixlen" even though addr is a user argument |
| 11:50.05 | *** join/#debian Zta (n=stephan@port572.ds1-arc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 11:50.06 | sep | addr= the ipv6 addr |
| 11:50.18 | CAiRO | yeah, after trying 10 times i got that myself :) |
| 11:50.35 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 11:50.46 | *** join/#debian Tenkawa (n=Tenkawa@unaffiliated/tenkawa) |
| 11:50.49 | CAiRO | ok, i've removed all ipv6 addresses from my interfaces but the module is still in use somehow |
| 11:50.56 | *** join/#debian freebse (n=freebse@p57A2BBC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:51.05 | *** join/#debian skandaleras (i=luis@gsyc023.dat.escet.urjc.es) |
| 11:51.37 | Fox | and lsmod doesn't say if another module is using it ? |
| 11:52.00 | Zta | In order to add a new locate to e.g. $LANG or $LC_MESSAGES, I need it to be listed in the output of "locale -a", right? |
| 11:52.02 | DawnLight | hello people! |
| 11:52.08 | *** join/#debian HymnToLife (n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:52.57 | *** join/#debian maddash (n=maddash@unaffiliated/maddash) |
| 11:53.19 | CAiRO | Fox: lsmod |grep ipv6 only shows one line |
| 11:54.03 | CAiRO | hm, rmmod -f helped |
| 11:54.09 | CAiRO | i hope that doesn't crash my system |
| 11:55.11 | *** join/#debian LinuxNewBeee (n=bert@124-254-99-202-dsl.ispone.net.au) |
| 11:55.19 | psyco-obiwan | does anybody know of a breakage in testing repositories. I installed a server 2 days ago with etch and im trying to install an identical machine now from the same swiss repositories and both report a corrup binary-i386/Packages.gz ... |
| 11:55.27 | CAiRO | lol, now it says module not found if i try to reload it |
| 11:55.38 | *** join/#debian graytron (n=gray@tron.yok.utu.fi) |
| 11:55.53 | graytron | #debian-overflow? |
| 11:56.50 | Tenkawa | psyco-obiwan: theres breakages in testing all the time.. it also highly depends which mirror yuo get it from too |
| 11:56.54 | sep | graytron, no your in #debian now |
| 11:57.16 | DawnLight | exit |
| 11:57.24 | DawnLight | logout |
| 11:57.33 | HowlingMad | has the netinstall nisk change , it did not give me package selection and option to configure apt ? |
| 11:57.41 | torrr | I have installed tomcat on debian, but I can't see anything but filename size last modified... I installed the webapps but no change ....? |
| 11:57.55 | wols | HowlingMad: it gave you tasksel no? |
| 11:58.33 | HowlingMad | it have one screen saying laptop or desktop or summat with 2 options then done |
| 11:58.38 | wols | psyco-obiwan: delete your local package lists. choose a new mirror and apt-get update |
| 11:58.44 | *** join/#debian bhagabhi (n=bhagabhi@h62n6c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 11:58.44 | psyco-obiwan | Tenkawa: thx, but i've installed more than 3 dozens of etches from this mirrors lately (the only 2 official for switzerland) and I never had such problems, they error is consistent from both mirrors, i'll try a german mirror now to see how general the breakage is |
| 11:58.45 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xC5C71DCE) |
| 11:58.54 | wols | HowlingMad: well, it's a netinstall... |
| 11:58.56 | Tenkawa | psyco-obiwan: ouchie |
| 11:59.00 | psyco-obiwan | wols: it happens during install |
| 11:59.08 | Tenkawa | good luck.. yeah its been pretty stable here in the states lately |
| 11:59.10 | HowlingMad | i got the daily build |
| 11:59.19 | Tenkawa | al 4 mirrors I use with testing and even unstable |
| 11:59.37 | HowlingMad | it used to hive me options to configure apt and install x ect |
| 11:59.46 | HowlingMad | hive =give |
| 11:59.51 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: probably just the mirror went amok last night, usually such errors are gone soon |
| 12:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 713] by debhelper |
| 12:01.23 | maddash | man hosts.deny |
| 12:01.50 | *** join/#debian ulf_k (n=ulf_k@p54BD02C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:01.57 | Tenkawa | damnit |
| 12:02.09 | Tenkawa | got one of these buggy 2.0 usb sticks |
| 12:02.11 | Tenkawa | gotta find a 1.1 |
| 12:02.16 | cyzie | LoL @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE |
| 12:02.17 | *** join/#debian free-zombie (i=EQAh9mX9@pD9E32BBD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:02.23 | *** join/#debian dutche- (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) |
| 12:03.51 | psyco-obiwan | hah - deleted /target/var/cache/apt/* and selected the swedish mirror: Same error...I guess it looks like testing is broken worldwide right now or I am messing up sth completely. |
| 12:05.19 | pantos_werk | *yawn* |
| 12:05.25 | zophy | what is better than analog for analysing web server logs ? |
| 12:05.54 | psyco-obiwan | zophy: depends on the users liking...most people love awstats graphs.. |
| 12:05.59 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (n=nomaster@ip70-185-168-242.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 12:06.03 | *** join/#debian sabbat (n=sabbat@203-206-125-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 12:06.24 | zophy | psyco-obiwan, thanks |
| 12:06.40 | Tenkawa | any of you had luck prepping a usb stick installer? |
| 12:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 12:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 12:07.04 | LinuxNewBeee | hi all i am new to linux and have a dreamlinux system /Debian with kde, the cd rom drive was working but all of a sudden it does not work, also there are 2 cd drives on the system and it only detected one |
| 12:07.22 | LinuxNewBeee | how can i get the system to re check the hardware? |
| 12:08.10 | *** join/#debian ||arifaX (n=||arifaX@inetpop1.witron.de) |
| 12:08.26 | wols | !based on debian |
| 12:08.26 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-209-94.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:08.26 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 12:09.44 | wols | Tenkawa: how are they buggy? |
| 12:10.06 | *** join/#debian loca|host (n=fourat@196.203.53.221) |
| 12:10.28 | sts | hello folks. did somebody ever succeeded installing lighttpd with execwrap (for fcgi/php) on debian etch? my webserver isn't able to start when i configured execwrap. mod_fastcgi.c.1014) the fastcgi-backend /usr/local/share/execwrap/execwrap failed to start |
| 12:10.45 | *** join/#debian step_quasar (n=step_qua@191-91-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 12:10.56 | wols | step_quasar: why would it look in /usr/local? |
| 12:11.27 | Tenkawa | wols: some 2.0 usb flash drives have issues in some bios' booting according to the docs I just read |
| 12:11.45 | wols | sts: why would it look in /usr/local? |
| 12:11.56 | step_quasar | ? |
| 12:12.06 | wols | step_quasar: qerong nick ocmplete |
| 12:12.24 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (n=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 12:12.29 | sts | wols: because i compiled execwrap.c and put it in /usr/local/share/execwrap/execwrap |
| 12:12.53 | wols | sts: andwhy did you do that? lighttpd is in debian with fastcgi support I thought |
| 12:13.23 | sts | wols: but it doesn't use execwrap, right? so i compiled it on my own... |
| 12:13.49 | wols | sts: and this is a debian question how? ask execwrap folks or lighttpd |
| 12:14.07 | sts | wols: otherwise the user's php/fcgi scripts execute as www-data:www-data ;) |
| 12:14.35 | sts | wols: i wondered if somebody in here was ever using it ... so yes it IS a #debian question ;) |
| 12:14.44 | wols | sts: no it's not |
| 12:14.59 | sts | wols: yes it is, because it's debian related .. |
| 12:15.00 | sts | :P |
| 12:15.09 | Tenkawa | sts: you are never going to win this argument |
| 12:15.15 | Tenkawa | trust me from someone who knows |
| 12:15.20 | sts | Tenkawa: i don't care |
| 12:15.35 | Tenkawa | you will.. or you wont be in this chan very long |
| 12:15.45 | sts | Tenkawa: i didn't come to discuss whether something is related or not... i came because i have a question to people using debian... |
| 12:16.03 | Tenkawa | sts: your question is linux general.. not debian specific |
| 12:16.20 | sts | yeah, whatsoever.. |
| 12:16.22 | wols | sts: but you are not using a debian program. and trust me: while you getting an answer doesn't have 0% probabibilty, it will be a damn small one |
| 12:16.24 | *** join/#debian x_link (n=sedde@c83-254-151-150.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 12:16.33 | *** join/#debian daya (n=daya@202.79.37.177) |
| 12:16.43 | wols | your chances to get an answer are infinitely higher in a lighttpd/execwrap forum/channel |
| 12:17.03 | Tenkawa | the lighttpd channel is usually pretty informative too |
| 12:17.08 | *** join/#debian yeager (n=yeager@81-232-79-220-no46.business.telia.com) |
| 12:17.37 | sts | wols: i'm using debians lighty package, and i'm using debians php5-cgi ... so don't flame me if i have a question thats related to these two packages..... |
| 12:17.53 | sts | yeah i know |
| 12:18.14 | wols | where did I flame? |
| 12:18.14 | sts | wols: i know, i already asked the ppl in there... |
| 12:18.19 | wols | just pointing out that asking this here is... not optimal |
| 12:18.20 | *** join/#debian davidisko (i=davidisk@unixik.sk) |
| 12:18.36 | Tenkawa | sts: have you ran lighttpd in debug mode? |
| 12:18.40 | davidisko | any webhosting control panel ported in debian/ubuntu? |
| 12:18.41 | sts | wols: as i said, i just wondered if there are any known problems... |
| 12:19.03 | sts | Tenkawa: hmm .. no :) |
| 12:19.20 | wols | sts: since you said execwrap is not in debian, there can't be |
| 12:19.26 | wols | :) |
| 12:19.58 | wols | davidisko: ubuntu? wrong channel. and the best "panel" ia ssh :) |
| 12:20.03 | wols | there is afaik none |
| 12:20.21 | davidisko | wols: thanks a lot. |
| 12:20.25 | ofer1 | how do I create a sparse file containing ext3 filesystem ? |
| 12:20.26 | sts | Tenkawa: how can i switch to debug mode? |
| 12:20.27 | *** join/#debian ramHero (n=user@194.pool62-37-184.static.orange.es) |
| 12:20.37 | *** join/#debian jonathansizz (n=ian@216.16.222.80) |
| 12:20.43 | Tenkawa | sts: theres a command line option... let me see if I have a binary lying around |
| 12:21.01 | *** join/#debian mrfan (n=iwb4e@host15-75-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:21.03 | *** join/#debian MojoJojo2 (n=saw@62.49.91.249) |
| 12:21.12 | Tenkawa | use -D and config file options |
| 12:21.21 | Tenkawa | the rest you'll have to read up on yourself.. |
| 12:21.26 | Tenkawa | I gotta get back to work |
| 12:21.27 | wols | ofer1: tried: open file, write a few bytes. move the file pointer a few kB ahead, write more data |
| 12:21.32 | wols | that might do it |
| 12:21.43 | psyco-obiwan | wols: may I get back on your advice, i tried an install on a vmw instance and it seems to work now again. Since I have a quite complex setup on this server regarding md-partitions I'd rather not like to restart the whole install. Could you tell me if there are files beside /target/var/cache/apt i'd need to clean out before retrying the menu "Install base system" ? |
| 12:21.44 | *** join/#debian hackeron (n=hackeron@host-87-74-78-236.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 12:21.44 | ofer1 | wols, with seek=X in dd ? |
| 12:22.09 | psyco-obiwan | I also deleted net* in /tmp |
| 12:22.26 | *** part/#debian sts (n=sts@hermes.ncsaut.net) |
| 12:22.30 | wols | ofer1: dunno. I was more thinking of fseek() from the libc. but dd might work too |
| 12:22.56 | Tenkawa | wols: I think he was not happy with me.. not you |
| 12:23.04 | *** part/#debian davidisko (i=davidisk@unixik.sk) |
| 12:23.06 | *** join/#debian elbing (n=elbing@19.Red-88-11-46.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:23.16 | ofer1 | wols, why is it important to jump a few bytes ahead ? |
| 12:23.34 | wols | ofer1: to create the "emptiness" which defines a sparse file |
| 12:23.43 | *** join/#debian Plush (n=plush@host86-29-static.30-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:24.02 | ofer1 | wols, and if I don't jump a few bytes, will it be filled when it reaches the maximum filesize ? |
| 12:24.02 | *** part/#debian davi (i=davi@41.Red-217-127-236.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:24.06 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: if you've configured md your changes should be still a live after rebooting, as the md metadata resides on the hd |
| 12:24.10 | wols | a sparse file is a file that is X kB in size but only has X-Y bytes of content since there are "holes" in the middle |
| 12:24.43 | wols | psyco-obiwan: it tries to get base system via network? |
| 12:24.59 | *** join/#debian ewanm89 (n=ewanm89@future-is.orange.co.uk) |
| 12:24.59 | wols | a netinstall should have base system on the install media I thought |
| 12:25.07 | *** join/#debian Cameleo (n=cameleon@aworklan025162.netvigator.com) |
| 12:25.09 | wols | otherwise it could be quite a bit smaller |
| 12:26.06 | wols | ofer1: why do you care about sparse files? |
| 12:26.16 | wols | e.g. why create one? |
| 12:26.38 | ofer1 | because I want to use quota without remounting the main filesystem |
| 12:28.52 | wols | and why create one? |
| 12:28.53 | ofer1 | do you have another idea ? |
| 12:28.53 | psyco-obiwan | wols: i use the netboot images from 3 days ago via tftp and install via http |
| 12:28.53 | psyco-obiwan | over a squid proxy |
| 12:28.54 | ofer1 | wols, I tried it, but it didn't work. it says "No space left on device" |
| 12:28.54 | ofer1 | and I need the partition to "strech" |
| 12:28.55 | ofer1 | or something like that |
| 12:28.55 | psyco-obiwan | the sun x2100 have no cdrom and no floppy to boot from |
| 12:29.26 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: so i'd only have to set the mountpoints again...ok, i'll try. I was just interested which files make up the problem under the installer... |
| 12:29.31 | wols | ofer1: sparse files have nothing to do with partition resizing |
| 12:29.38 | ofer1 | wols, never mind. I know what the problem was |
| 12:29.44 | ofer1 | wols, thanks for your help!! :) |
| 12:30.02 | wols | typical usage for sparse files is e.g. torrents |
| 12:30.05 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: still makes me wonder why it doesn;t work |
| 12:30.27 | *** join/#debian sabbat (n=sabbat@203-206-125-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 12:30.37 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: doesn't the x2100 have this sexy remote managment board? |
| 12:30.38 | wols | me too. bzed: where does the netinst need to download anything while installing? |
| 12:30.48 | psyco-obiwan | yep, me too, as mentioned i installed many dozens of machines like that and i never had problems... |
| 12:30.50 | wols | you can download packages if you want, but no must I thought |
| 12:30.54 | *** join/#debian eucalre (n=manek@bzq-88-152-23-157.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 12:30.58 | bzed | wols: I think the tftp boot image is even more stripped than the cdrom |
| 12:31.11 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: serial console but i don't know of anything else |
| 12:31.17 | wols | or it's cause of SPARC |
| 12:31.29 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p57A49D1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:31.29 | psyco-obiwan | its AMD Opteron based machine |
| 12:31.36 | wols | strange then |
| 12:31.59 | *** join/#debian rpetre (n=petre@83.166.220.142) |
| 12:32.03 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@tmo-054-148.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 12:32.03 | psyco-obiwan | the netboot installer basically consists of a kernel and an initrd which loads the rest from a mirror |
| 12:32.16 | Tenkawa | yay!! |
| 12:32.16 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: the 4200 has a remote managment board, which is accessible via ssh and http, you can boot from any device which is on your computer via the remote console :) |
| 12:32.20 | Tenkawa | usb stick is ready |
| 12:32.27 | Tenkawa | syslinux fixed the mbr up nicely |
| 12:32.53 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: hehe 4200 is a little bit a larger iron than the x2100 which you get for under 1000$ |
| 12:33.14 | *** join/#debian humbolto (n=elias@vie-086-059-027-157.dsl.sil.at) |
| 12:33.24 | psyco-obiwan | Tenkawa: while you mention it, i found supergrub a nice helper in the past |
| 12:33.25 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: i'd just reboot and try a different mirror. ftp.de.debian seems to work well :) |
| 12:33.40 | *** join/#debian I-kido (n=Reco@089-042-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 12:34.31 | graytron | Want to see Debian on Dell systems? -- http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp -- I won't guarantee you will. |
| 12:34.31 | wols | supregrub? what does it better than grub? |
| 12:34.31 | *** join/#debian zorrolero (n=zorroler@85.88.5.125) |
| 12:34.34 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: i just tried a vmware instance and it installs pretty fine from the swiss mirror, so i think a temp. problem, but Im keen to find out how I can solve it without rebooting (its a bit the sportive character to get things working and understanding things) |
| 12:34.43 | *** join/#debian e-funktion (n=seemawn@dslb-084-058-169-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:34.43 | *** join/#debian amerej (n=rej@athedsl-145345.otenet.gr) |
| 12:34.49 | *** join/#debian H2S04 (n=ghorthas@71-218-120-117.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 12:35.03 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: can you access a console? |
| 12:35.09 | *** join/#debian qiyong (n=qiyong@fc-cn.com) |
| 12:35.10 | qiyong | any NFS+qutoa knower here? |
| 12:35.16 | psyco-obiwan | wols: it fixes mbrs and stuff automatically with a wizardlike Interface |
| 12:35.20 | bzed | !tell qiyong about ask |
| 12:35.35 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: I am still local, so I have access to the machine |
| 12:35.41 | *** join/#debian FredricR_ (i=FredricR@admin184.hgo.se) |
| 12:35.43 | Gnea | graytron: probably not until next year at least |
| 12:35.45 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: tried apt-get on the console? |
| 12:35.49 | rpetre | where can i ask for some questions about fortran compilers, clusters and Debian ? |
| 12:35.58 | qiyong | bzed, qutoa doesn't work which nfs, i get: error while getting qutoa : connection refused |
| 12:36.19 | bzed | psyco-obiwan: I think you probably have to chroot into the mounted new / |
| 12:37.00 | bzed | rpetre: the debian part in here ;) |
| 12:37.02 | graytron | Gnea: that'd be great |
| 12:37.14 | *** join/#debian c1ru (n=pacogp@81.202.46.61.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:37.38 | humbolto | does anybody have any idea if it is possible to script video upload to youtube and other such platforms? |
| 12:37.50 | bzed | qiyong: does nfs work at all? |
| 12:37.57 | rpetre | bzed: well, it's a bit of grey territory, so i wanted to ask first what's possible and what's not |
| 12:38.00 | *** join/#debian perlmonkey (n=paul@82-37-57-50.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:38.06 | *** join/#debian subir (n=subir@202.79.37.177) |
| 12:38.18 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (n=nomaster@103.sub-75-202-96.myvzw.com) |
| 12:38.20 | qiyong | bzed, yes, very well |
| 12:38.27 | bzed | rpetre: there're good fortran compilers from sun and intel |
| 12:38.30 | *** join/#debian sysfault (n=exalted@p3m/member/sysfault) |
| 12:38.37 | qiyong | bzed, i can write on the nfs, thus qutoa is bypassed |
| 12:38.53 | wols | rpetre: debian/linux is linux. linux has clusters (bewoulf) and fortran, plus some libs like MPI or whatnot |
| 12:38.59 | wols | so why wouldn't it be possibly? |
| 12:39.00 | bzed | qiyong: do you have the quota package installed on your server? |
| 12:39.03 | wols | *possible |
| 12:39.10 | *** join/#debian baffle (n=baffle@endor.stenstad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:39.12 | psyco-obiwan | bzed: thx for the hint, im trying |
| 12:39.27 | bzed | qiyong: sounds like the quotad-rpc is either not running, broken, portmapper is not running, or anything liek that |
| 12:39.29 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 12:39.30 | ofer1 | hey wols. I created a sparse file and filled it in with data. now I delete the data, why doesn't the outer filesystem free some used space ? |
| 12:39.31 | qiyong | bzed, yes, sure, the quota works ok locally on the server |
| 12:39.40 | *** join/#debian hq4ever (n=hq4ever@192.118.54.95) |
| 12:39.49 | humbolto | I know this is off-topic, but #debian is THE channel I know with the most hackers around, so I ask here to get a direction. When I am looking for able hackers who know about p2p and video platforms, where would I go? |
| 12:39.57 | wols | ofer1: no clue |
| 12:40.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 721] by debhelper |
| 12:40.09 | qiyong | bzed, rpc.quotad is running, otherwise, i'll get this error |
| 12:40.16 | wols | btw: how do you "delete data"? |
| 12:40.30 | ofer1 | wols, it's because "deleting" doesn't mean "write 0 on all data", it means "tell the inode that it is now free" |
| 12:40.36 | perlmonkey | I'm trying to compile a cups driver for my Epson printer, but when i do configure it says "cups-config" missing, please install cups or fix your $PATH. any ideas how to fix that? I am running cups |
| 12:40.48 | wols | ofer1: did the filesize resize? |
| 12:40.51 | ofer1 | wols, the question is, how do I say to mount or whatever that "delete" means "write 0's" |
| 12:40.55 | qiyong | bzed, otherwise i get the error immediately |
| 12:40.56 | ofer1 | no, the filesize is always the same |
| 12:41.03 | wols | ofer1: could be the way the fs implements sparse files |
| 12:41.06 | perlmonkey | hi guys |
| 12:41.47 | wols | ofer1: are you minging a file and trying to make that file sparse? |
| 12:41.54 | psyco-obiwan | humbolto: your question is that vague that i'd recommend google as start |
| 12:42.08 | bzed | qiyong: is the host not allowed in /etc/hosts.* probably? |
| 12:42.25 | wols | !tell perlmonkey about search |
| 12:42.26 | perlmonkey | heh, nuffin eva goes smoothly with linux + new hardware |
| 12:42.36 | bzed | qiyong: you could stop rpc.quotad and start it manually in foreground mode to get soem dbeg log, check it's manpage |
| 12:42.38 | *** join/#debian batrick (n=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 12:42.43 | qiyong | bzed, i have only /etc/hosts.allow portmap:ALL |
| 12:42.45 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@BSN-77-157-214.dsl.siol.net) |
| 12:42.46 | wols | perlmonkey: check how to get cups-config. probably a dev package or such |
| 12:42.57 | perlmonkey | ok |
| 12:42.58 | qiyong | bzed, already doing -F now |
| 12:42.59 | *** join/#debian Moorenkopf (n=Moorenko@p5088757C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:43.13 | wols | ofer1: s/mining/mounting |
| 12:43.24 | bzed | qiyong: try to add rquotad:ALL in hosts.allow |
| 12:44.06 | qiyong | bzed, and restart something? |
| 12:44.20 | bzed | rquotad |
| 12:44.49 | qiyong | bzed, no good, rpc.rquotad -F prints nothing |
| 12:44.56 | *** part/#debian Zta (n=stephan@port572.ds1-arc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 12:45.03 | qiyong | bzed, and the client still get the same error after some period |
| 12:45.17 | bzed | qiyong: any firewall inbetween? |
| 12:45.24 | ofer1 | wols, no, the file is already sparse |
| 12:45.27 | *** join/#debian batrick (n=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 12:45.36 | perlmonkey | wols: thanks I found it |
| 12:45.45 | qiyong | bzed, no |
| 12:45.50 | wols | ofer1: what are you trying to do? I just have a hard time understanding why you need sparse files for quota support |
| 12:45.52 | *** join/#debian trebor_win (n=none_ask@mail.dki.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 12:46.01 | *** join/#debian lando (n=lando@adsl-153-127-223.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 12:46.25 | qiyong | bzed, from nmap, i don't see rpc.rquotad's port |
| 12:46.38 | *** join/#debian Moorenkopf (n=Moorenko@p5088757C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:46.42 | bzed | qiyong: what does lsof -i | grep quota say? |
| 12:47.12 | *** join/#debian bintut (n=bintut@cm138.gamma187.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 12:47.50 | qiyong | oh, i see, bzed all rpc should use portmap's port |
| 12:47.58 | trebor_win | hi. how good is sidux in order to install debian? is there a live-cd which is ok for installing debian (after testing its compatibility to the hardware)? |
| 12:48.01 | qiyong | bzed, lsof hangs for me |
| 12:48.27 | bzed | qiyong: aah yeah, well try to restart portmap. a hanging lsof sounds like a broken name service? |
| 12:49.13 | *** join/#debian imu (n=imu@host111-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:49.26 | psyco-obiwan | gotcha! on the second try it works with the exact same procedure... thx for all your help and tips offered |
| 12:49.30 | *** join/#debian Moorenkopf (n=Moorenko@p5088757C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:49.48 | *** join/#debian jatt (n=user@85.115.3.118) |
| 12:49.59 | bzed | qiyong: try lsof -i -n |
| 12:50.12 | qiyong | bzed, no good |
| 12:50.30 | *** join/#debian hunterones (n=who@c9067472.static.spo.virtua.com.br) |
| 12:50.36 | bzed | qiyong: lsof -i -n does nothing? |
| 12:50.56 | qiyong | bzed, hungs, 'coz some local mount hangs too |
| 12:51.19 | bzed | qiyong: sounds like you ahve some other issues you want to fix first :) |
| 12:51.28 | hunterones | does anyone know why its coming "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" when i try to mount an linux partition?.. i tried mount -t ext3 and it keeps saying that |
| 12:51.33 | *** join/#debian omry__ (n=omry@l192-114-45-139.broadband.actcom.net.il) |
| 12:51.44 | qiyong | bzed, bbl, a reboot |
| 12:52.03 | bzed | hunterones: then there's not any known filesystem on the partition. |
| 12:52.12 | Tenkawa | any of you running debian on a mini or nanon itx mb? |
| 12:52.18 | Tenkawa | er nano |
| 12:52.23 | hunterones | bzed, its the "Linux" from cfdisk |
| 12:52.36 | hunterones | bzed, i dont know how to set it as ext3 or reiserfs at cfdisk |
| 12:52.42 | perlmonkey | I got an error when doing a make on my driver source: "getstat.c:34:18: error: ltdl.h: No such file or directory" |
| 12:52.51 | bzed | hunterones: that's just a partition type. you need to format it before you can use it, if you've just created the partition |
| 12:52.54 | *** join/#debian Garda (n=Garda@218-215-138-183.people.net.au) |
| 12:53.03 | *** join/#debian octoberd1n (n=daniel@pool-141-149-175-173.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 12:53.29 | perlmonkey | im screwed? |
| 12:53.33 | bzed | hunterones: which is not the problem of cfdisk ;) you want to use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.reiserfs on that partition. read the mapages |
| 12:53.40 | *** join/#debian hazel| (n=ore01@a81-14-161-236.net-htp.de) |
| 12:53.46 | hunterones | bzed, i created the partition and after i tried to mkreiserfs.. but it failed.. ill try mkfs.ext3 |
| 12:53.46 | hunterones | =D |
| 12:54.09 | bzed | perlmonkey: apt-get install libltdl3-dev |
| 12:54.17 | bzed | hunterones: err |
| 12:54.32 | bzed | hunterones: are you sure that you've created tha poartition, wrote it to disk, rebooted? |
| 12:54.42 | hunterones | # fdisk -l | /dev/sda3 245 1394 9237375 83 Linux .............. # mkfs.ext3 ....... /dev/sda3 Could not stat /dev/sda3 --- No such file or directory |
| 12:54.55 | f00li5h | perlmonkey! |
| 12:55.03 | hunterones | ops.. i mean # mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 |
| 12:55.04 | perlmonkey | bzed: many thanks |
| 12:55.09 | perlmonkey | f00li5h: :D |
| 12:55.14 | wols | hunterones: ls -al /dev/sda* |
| 12:55.18 | *** join/#debian eisen (n=eisen@xdsl-81-173-190-70.netcologne.de) |
| 12:55.19 | f00li5h | perlmonkey: you ruined your box too then? |
| 12:55.22 | bzed | hunterones: did you reboot after creating the partition? I assume you have other partitions mounted from that disk? |
| 12:55.34 | HowlingMad | ive just installed etch with net daily snapshot of netinstall and it has not installed xorg can i apt-get them and what do i need to apt-get |
| 12:55.36 | HowlingMad | ? |
| 12:55.39 | hunterones | it doesnt have sda3 :(, wols |
| 12:55.54 | hunterones | bzed, nope.. i didnt reboot yet... =) |
| 12:56.02 | HowlingMad | the new netinstall gave me no option to install packages |
| 12:56.06 | perlmonkey | f00li5h: no its going ok, i just bought a new Epson printer to replace the Canon I bought last week...having some probs installing the driver |
| 12:56.08 | bzed | hunterones: then do it |
| 12:56.15 | wols | HowlingMad: won't matter |
| 12:56.15 | perlmonkey | f00li5h: what have you done then? |
| 12:56.17 | hunterones | bzed, doing it, sr! :D |
| 12:56.20 | bzed | hunterones: after it you should have /dev/sda3, too |
| 12:56.23 | f00li5h | perlmonkey: so many things |
| 12:56.35 | f00li5h | perlmonkey: i finally decided to stick my SATA card in my box |
| 12:56.44 | *** join/#debian mrew (n=mrew@warner.force9.co.uk) |
| 12:56.46 | f00li5h | perlmonkey: and figured "while i have the top off, i'll stick that other IDE disk in too" |
| 12:56.49 | wols | HowlingMad: is debian now installed? |
| 12:56.55 | perlmonkey | aha |
| 12:57.07 | *** join/#debian spamalope (n=ip@spamalope.com) |
| 12:57.07 | f00li5h | bios can't pick one, and seems to throw dice to pick which to boot from |
| 12:57.17 | perlmonkey | phew :-/ |
| 12:57.19 | bzed | hunterones: the kernel can't re-read the partition tables usually, that's why you need to reboot. or you use lvm instead of partitions :) |
| 12:57.36 | wols | f00li5h: do proper master/slave setting then |
| 12:57.43 | wols | f00li5h: and no cable select |
| 12:57.46 | *** join/#debian apk (n=magrat@eroffice.peerplace.com) |
| 12:57.49 | f00li5h | wols: they have an IDE bus each |
| 12:57.54 | bzed | wols: on sata? |
| 12:58.00 | hunterones | woohoo.. got it now :D bzed.. trying to format it =D |
| 12:58.01 | wols | bzed: always worked fine for me. no reboot necessary |
| 12:58.50 | f00li5h | bzed: not the sata ones |
| 12:59.07 | bzed | wols: it sometimes worked for me, sometimes not. I still don't know why, but fdisk will whine if the 're-read partition table'-ioctl failed, and then you know it's time to reboot |
| 12:59.24 | bzed | f00li5h: ah |
| 12:59.44 | *** join/#debian mirco_ (n=mirco@tmo-034-182.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 12:59.44 | f00li5h | i know |
| 12:59.54 | f00li5h | i'll power all but one of the disks down |
| 13:00.33 | f00li5h | and add them one. at. a time. like any sensible person would do |
| 13:00.33 | psyco-obiwan | on another occasion: did anybody get Matrox mga[45]50 working with dualhead / xinerama on etch ? While its working beautiful under sarge i never got it working on etch |
| 13:00.33 | wols | bzed: on pata, sata and scsi |
| 13:00.34 | wols | bzed: could be due to a controller driver thing |
| 13:00.34 | *** part/#debian pooper (n=ip@spamalope.com) |
| 13:00.38 | *** join/#debian sabakas1 (n=solapus@66.90.121.129) |
| 13:01.05 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@ip67-93-222-40.z222-93-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 13:01.05 | bzed | wols: yeah. I usualyl don't run in this problem anymore since I'm using lvm everywhere |
| 13:01.35 | *** join/#debian YuX-L (n=Reco@089-042-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 13:01.46 | *** join/#debian qiyong (n=qiyong@fc-cn.com) |
| 13:02.14 | bzed | wols: interesitingly the installer never has a problem with it, so I guess it either happens if you're not using the general ide driver or if you've mounted anything from that disk, or something like that |
| 13:02.26 | *** join/#debian levels (n=shay@80.179.31.43.static.012.net.il) |
| 13:02.45 | wols | or that, yes |
| 13:02.56 | qiyong | bzed, things better now |
| 13:03.17 | bzed | fine |
| 13:03.27 | qiyong | bzed, on the client, quota works and shows the information, but the client still bypass the quota |
| 13:03.29 | *** join/#debian YuX-L (n=YuX-L@089-042-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 13:03.55 | *** join/#debian step_quasar1 (n=step_qua@191-91-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 13:04.07 | *** join/#debian mrfan (n=XxX@87.18.254.191) |
| 13:04.13 | qiyong | bzed, i have inode limit 4 5 |
| 13:04.30 | qiyong | bzed, then i can create 14 inodes |
| 13:04.34 | bzed | qiyong: how can the client bypass the quota!? the quota is managed by the server and the filesystem, there's no magic behind it. |
| 13:04.44 | qiyong | bzed, the grace timer begins though |
| 13:05.31 | qiyong | bzed, why the server doesn't enforce the qutoa, the server qutoa works, i can see the grace timer triggered |
| 13:05.50 | ofer1 | wols, I don't want to use quota on the main FS |
| 13:06.00 | ofer1 | wols, so I create a sparse file with quota support |
| 13:06.42 | wols | ofer1: and mount that? |
| 13:06.46 | ofer1 | yeah |
| 13:06.49 | ofer1 | with quota support |
| 13:06.54 | qiyong | bzed, one the local mount point, i get write failed, user file limit reached |
| 13:06.55 | wols | ick! |
| 13:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 13:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 13:06.58 | ofer1 | the quota support is when you mount. |
| 13:07.06 | wols | I know |
| 13:07.07 | qiyong | ofer1, oh |
| 13:07.16 | ofer1 | so what do you suggest me to do ? |
| 13:07.25 | bzed | qiyong: and on the client? |
| 13:07.26 | wols | create a new partition |
| 13:07.45 | wols | or set quotas only for certain users |
| 13:07.46 | bzed | qiyong: you can still write happily? are you sure the user ids match? |
| 13:07.48 | psyco-obiwan | qiyong: just plugin in with a stupid idea, do you map access from the nfs client to the right uid on the server ? That might be the reason... |
| 13:08.20 | qiyong | bzed, yes, match, and i can see the files increasing |
| 13:08.47 | qiyong | psyco-obiwan, i have them uid both 10000 |
| 13:09.01 | qiyong | psyco-obiwan, err, 1000 |
| 13:09.51 | bzed | qiyong: then i have absoluteyl no clue anymore. it always jsut worked for me |
| 13:10.12 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@ip67-93-222-40.z222-93-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 13:10.26 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 13:10.32 | DawnLight | hello |
| 13:10.49 | DawnLight | how do i run localeconf? |
| 13:10.58 | perlmonkey | sheesh |
| 13:11.09 | wols | !tell DawnLight about locales |
| 13:11.11 | *** join/#debian Ankman (i=ankman@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org) |
| 13:11.20 | qiyong | bzed, the grace timer can be triggered, the files numbers creased |
| 13:11.25 | qiyong | increased |
| 13:11.31 | *** join/#debian tomdick (n=tomdickh@70.254.231.250) |
| 13:11.41 | perlmonkey | nuther error on "make check" for my epson driver source: pfimg.o: In function `write_judge': /tmp/pipslite-1.0.0/src/pfimg.c:1133: undefined reference to `floor' |
| 13:11.59 | DawnLight | thanks |
| 13:12.22 | qiyong | bzed, and btw, quota(1) only shjow for the current udi |
| 13:12.23 | qiyong | uid |
| 13:12.26 | *** join/#debian step_quasar (n=step_qua@191-91-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 13:12.38 | wols | it tries to access a function (or other thing) named "floor" but that didn't exist in an .o file or library you specified on the commandline |
| 13:12.50 | wols | since "floor" is very generic: good luck searching |
| 13:12.55 | *** join/#debian gr1ncheux (n=devine@unaffiliated/gr1ncheux) |
| 13:12.56 | tomdick | i've got etch & apache2 installed. when i run ps aux | grep apache it shows all the processes, most are running as www-data, but the first is running as root. is this normal? |
| 13:13.00 | perlmonkey | wols: that means I can't install this driver huh |
| 13:13.12 | *** join/#debian Naz (n=Nazxul@c-67-164-172-39.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 13:13.28 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (n=marcus@p5485c9db.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:13.33 | wols | tomdick: yes |
| 13:14.14 | bzed | qiyong: that's what quota is supposed to do |
| 13:14.17 | tomdick | wols: isn't that supposed to be a security risk (like most ignorant people, i'm probably over-simplifying...) |
| 13:14.24 | *** join/#debian leninmhs (n=leninmhs@200.90.29.50) |
| 13:14.45 | kryptoz | I have a strange problem with my files. I do a ls it shows the filename highlighted in red backgroud and blinking |
| 13:14.54 | kryptoz | and when i do a ls -l it shows like this "?--------- ? ? ? ? ? BxFtL-9098-0-1_BROWSE-inp" |
| 13:14.55 | bzed | tomdick: no :) as the childs drop their permissions before they're able to be contacted from the world |
| 13:15.05 | cast | kryptoz: probably has funky chars in the filename i wonder? |
| 13:15.07 | kryptoz | can anyone help me with this please |
| 13:15.08 | qiyong | bzed, yeah, so i am sure i have the uid matched |
| 13:15.10 | bzed | tomdick: but the server wouldn't be able to bind to port 80 without beeing root |
| 13:15.18 | qiyong | bzed, probably this is a nfs server bug? |
| 13:15.20 | kryptoz | cast: no not at all |
| 13:15.26 | bzed | qiyong: which kernel are you using? |
| 13:15.32 | perlmonkey | :-/ |
| 13:15.32 | qiyong | bzed, is it your nfs server user or kernel? |
| 13:15.32 | tomdick | bzed: that makes sense |
| 13:15.43 | qiyong | bzed, 2.6.10+ |
| 13:15.52 | kryptoz | cast: the file name is shown but the size of the file, permissions and all are just "?" |
| 13:15.55 | qiyong | bzed, 2.6.19 the server |
| 13:16.01 | qiyong | bzed, but i have user nfs server |
| 13:16.09 | bzed | qiyong: ohh... soudns like you wanna update the client ;) |
| 13:16.17 | bzed | and |
| 13:16.21 | bzed | user nfs server? |
| 13:16.23 | ofer1 | so wols, do you have an ide a? |
| 13:16.33 | wols | bzed: well, netstat -anp shows port 80 is bound to the root process... |
| 13:16.34 | bzed | qiyong: try the kernel nfs |
| 13:16.43 | qiyong | bzed, you use kernel nfs? |
| 13:16.58 | wols | bzed: so this root code is reachable by outside even when it's probably only the "dispatcher" |
| 13:16.59 | bzed | qiyong: sure, anything else is just slow and a waste of ressources |
| 13:17.24 | wols | ofer1: not really |
| 13:17.37 | wols | ofer1: not even sure if sparse files can be used the way you want |
| 13:18.00 | bzed | wols: sure, it needs to be bound to port 80. but I wouldn't know how to exploit that, as it handles nothign of the connection |
| 13:18.16 | bzed | kryptoz: paste the whole output in a pastebin please? |
| 13:18.23 | kryptoz | sure |
| 13:18.24 | wols | bzed: it is bound to a port, you can reach that process' code |
| 13:18.41 | wols | bzed: so if there is a bug, it's an instant root exploit |
| 13:18.54 | wols | and if it handles nothing, why is it bound? |
| 13:19.20 | *** join/#debian loesh|worklap (n=loesh@213.136.47.130) |
| 13:19.43 | wols | of course, e.g. master from postfix is bound to port 25 and also root |
| 13:19.59 | bzed | wols: because you can't bind non-root processes to low ports? |
| 13:20.18 | wols | you can. you bind and then drop root |
| 13:20.32 | kryptoz | bzed: can you please check this http://pastebin.ca/396026 |
| 13:20.35 | wols | at least I thought that's how it worked? |
| 13:20.39 | bzed | wols: that won;t work if you're going to fork kids |
| 13:20.50 | wols | hmmm |
| 13:20.54 | wols | I guess |
| 13:21.28 | bzed | wols: I assume that the event mpm is just dropping root rights after binding. I can;t test it though, due to FUCK php |
| 13:22.00 | bzed | kryptoz: is that a machine your'e sitting in front of? |
| 13:22.07 | wols | bzed: that root apache process is probably the "dispatcher" which dispateches reuqests to the various children |
| 13:22.31 | *** join/#debian qwertz (n=qwertz@21.207.27.217.static.versanetonline.de) |
| 13:22.43 | bzed | wols: yeah, and it forked the new childs when the old childs are gone |
| 13:22.55 | qwertz | Hi, does anybody know why mantis isn't any longer available as package in etch? |
| 13:23.08 | bzed | kryptoz: if yes, touch /forcefsck ...and reboot. that sounds like a broken filesystem and/or broken hardware |
| 13:23.41 | bzed | qwertz: because the security guys didn't want to support it due to upstream hiding bugs and fixes |
| 13:24.11 | qwertz | bzed, thanks for the info |
| 13:24.15 | bzed | qwertz: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402829 |
| 13:24.21 | *** join/#debian dolmans (n=simon@221.220.53.140) |
| 13:24.31 | bzed | qwertz: if you can switch, use flyspray or bugzilla or something like that |
| 13:25.06 | bzed | qwertz: the maintainer wants to provide a backport for etch, though |
| 13:25.18 | DawnLight | i cant start the x-server :( it asks me a question or two and all the text is messed up... |
| 13:26.23 | *** join/#debian pascutti (n=angelo@201.66.25.150) |
| 13:26.56 | *** join/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 13:27.20 | wols | somebody ban all mormons from the interweb. It's for their own good. disallowing port80 for pr0n and making it use another port? W T F? |
| 13:27.55 | *** join/#debian pascutti (n=angelo@201.66.25.150) |
| 13:28.11 | f00li5h | wols: no, the intarwebs rely on that kind of lack of distinction |
| 13:28.15 | *** join/#debian drako (n=ljd@unaffiliated/luisjose) |
| 13:28.47 | DawnLight | was i called a moron? |
| 13:28.53 | bzed | wols: ah, I think I see the reason. http://pastebin.ca/396038 - the forked childs are listening on the port, too... if you remember what a fork does - it's an exact copy of the parent process... so the parent needs to bind to port 80 (but doesn;t take care of any connections) and forks itself. the child will grab port 80, too and drop root rights. as long as the process does not read any data from the port it is bin to, as long as it' |
| 13:28.53 | bzed | s runnign with uid 0, everything should fine imho |
| 13:29.11 | Braintix | Hi does eny off you know if a IBM thinkpad can run linux ? |
| 13:29.22 | *** join/#debian tdn (n=tdn@zeus.sikkerhed.org) |
| 13:29.28 | bzed | Braintix: sure it can. very well btw |
| 13:29.35 | wols | !tell Braintix about laptop |
| 13:29.35 | Braintix | sound goood |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian lynxer (n=xzydssfs@222.132.250.111) |
| 13:30.03 | Braintix | ty |
| 13:30.56 | sep | is it impossible to build a initrd using initrd-tools if you use the 2.6.18 kernel from backports. it seams to use initramfs-tools |
| 13:31.09 | sep | cd /e |
| 13:32.24 | *** part/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 13:32.24 | qiyong | bzed, do i need to install extra tools to use kernel nfs? |
| 13:32.24 | lynxer | could not load converter from EUC-JP to utf-8 |
| 13:32.25 | DawnLight | how do i kill x? |
| 13:32.25 | lynxer | how to fix it |
| 13:32.34 | lynxer | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 13:32.56 | DawnLight | and if that doesn't do it? |
| 13:33.01 | *** join/#debian visik7 (n=visi@host96-108-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:33.42 | Wyzard | log in from another computer with ssh and "killall -9 X" |
| 13:33.51 | lynxer | killall X |
| 13:34.07 | *** join/#debian nescius (n=nescius@furtif.advertures.cz) |
| 13:34.27 | torrr | I installed tomcat5.5, and also its webapp but i dont see the webapps |
| 13:35.00 | nescius | hi |
| 13:35.11 | nescius | how do i change a metric for eth0 with ifconfig? ifconfig eth0 metric <number> wont work |
| 13:36.21 | *** join/#debian Ash-Fox (i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:36.54 | lynxer | when i run avast ,it show "could not load converter from EUC-JP to utf-8",how to fix it |
| 13:37.15 | *** join/#debian nyty (n=nyty@r3t43.net.upc.cz) |
| 13:37.19 | nescius | avast?! whats with it? |
| 13:38.06 | bzed | qiyong: nfs0kernel-server |
| 13:38.10 | bzed | qiyong: nfs-kernel-server |
| 13:38.35 | *** join/#debian cherisa (n=samigaru@61.173.24.168) |
| 13:38.52 | bzed | nescius: nnot sure how to do it with ifconfig, but ip can do it definitely |
| 13:38.58 | nescius | lynxer, ah, there is linux version, well i didn't know that |
| 13:39.21 | f00li5h | is there an easy way to find out which of the /dev/hd**'s are actually valid block devices? |
| 13:39.32 | psyco-obiwan | what is the name or equivalent of sarges "initrd-netboot" in etch ? |
| 13:40.05 | *** join/#debian brottman (n=brianr@216.120.143.226) |
| 13:40.46 | f00li5h | if i have /dev/hdg1 on /, how is it that fdisk /dev/hdg fails? |
| 13:41.14 | lynxer | a live-cd make from sarge by myself |
| 13:42.07 | perlmonkey | f'kin fing |
| 13:42.20 | f00li5h | perlmonkey: there thtere |
| 13:42.28 | perlmonkey | :-/ |
| 13:42.36 | perlmonkey | my ink will be empty at this rate |
| 13:42.43 | nescius | bzed, my man pages of ip are almost empty, can you tell me how? |
| 13:42.44 | perlmonkey | and it hasnt even printed a page yet |
| 13:43.01 | *** join/#debian blank_ (n=blank_@18-247.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 13:43.07 | wols | f00li5h: how does it fail? |
| 13:43.18 | f00li5h | wols: can't open device |
| 13:43.18 | *** join/#debian madflojo (n=madflojo@ip68-98-94-16.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 13:43.27 | nescius | lynxer, what does locale say? |
| 13:43.38 | perlmonkey | Epson driver seems very buggy |
| 13:43.38 | Wyzard | nescius: Install iproute-doc |
| 13:43.47 | *** join/#debian elclemente (n=clemens@port-87-234-105-112.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:43.56 | f00li5h | wols: "Unable to open /dev/hdg" |
| 13:43.59 | wols | perlmonkey: where did you get the driver/source? |
| 13:44.01 | lynxer | LANG=zh_CN.GBK |
| 13:44.01 | lynxer | LANGUAGE=zh_CN:zh:en_US:en |
| 13:44.01 | lynxer | LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.GBK" |
| 13:44.02 | lynxer | LC_NUMERIC="zh_CN.GBK" |
| 13:44.02 | lynxer | LC_TIME="zh_CN.GBK" |
| 13:44.02 | *** kick/#debian [lynxer!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 13:44.25 | nescius | hahaha |
| 13:44.30 | *** join/#debian Knight_Lord (n=filipe@rembrandt.bmc.uu.se) |
| 13:44.31 | *** join/#debian lynxer (n=xzydssfs@222.132.250.111) |
| 13:44.34 | bzed | nescius: the manpage is very complete. search for metric in there, and learn to read BNF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form |
| 13:44.57 | lynxer | LANG=zh_CN.GBK |
| 13:45.02 | simonrvn | what in "DO NOT PASTE HERE" don't you understand? |
| 13:45.23 | bzed | perlmonkey: ah btw, floor is usually from libm, and requires #include <math.h>... do you ahve libc6-dev installed? |
| 13:45.30 | *** join/#debian skandaleras (i=luis@gsyc023.dat.escet.urjc.es) |
| 13:45.36 | f00li5h | bzed: i did not know that people used BNF for antyhing... |
| 13:45.46 | perlmonkey | bzed: oh thanks :) |
| 13:46.14 | bzed | f00li5h: http://cui.unige.ch/db-research/Enseignement/analyseinfo/JAVA/BNFindex.html :) |
| 13:46.21 | *** join/#debian yeager (n=yeager@81-232-79-220-no46.business.telia.com) |
| 13:46.32 | nescius | bzed, messy ugly stuff, i am too young and ignorant to learn something filled with colons |
| 13:46.35 | f00li5h | bzed: has the word java in it ... |
| 13:47.03 | bzed | f00li5h: yeah, that's why I'm not even reading it. but I had to use that crap at university |
| 13:47.06 | *** part/#debian _JP (i=jaxr@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi) |
| 13:47.22 | f00li5h | BNF of java |
| 13:47.32 | f00li5h | i'd like to see BNF of perl, that'd be wicked |
| 13:47.39 | bzed | nescius: and now you want me to explain to you how to read it so you can modify your route? |
| 13:48.04 | *** join/#debian yyhhh (n=d00d@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 13:48.11 | *** join/#debian t0h (n=tommi@dsl-kvlmmlgw1-feb7fa00-204.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:48.14 | f00li5h | why would /dev/hdg be mounted when i get a recover shell? |
| 13:48.20 | f00li5h | that just comes from fstab, right? |
| 13:48.39 | Wyzard | f00li5h: Your root filesystem is always mounted |
| 13:48.42 | Tenkawa | heh interesting how things have not changed around here in years |
| 13:48.56 | bzed | f00li5h: man perlfaq7: 'In the words of Chaim Frenkel: "Perl's grammar can not be reduced to BNF. The work of parsing perl is distributed between yacc, the lexer, smoke and mirrors."' |
| 13:49.11 | f00li5h | bzed: indeed |
| 13:49.17 | Wyzard | f00li5h: not because of fstab, but because it's mounted automatically by the kernel rather early in the boot process |
| 13:49.21 | perlmonkey | w00000t |
| 13:49.27 | *** part/#debian yyhhh (n=d00d@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 13:49.36 | f00li5h | Wyzard: how does the kernel know what to mount? |
| 13:49.41 | Tenkawa | any of you mess with pxe booting debian thin clients at all? |
| 13:49.58 | f00li5h | Tenkawa: no, but i remember seeing some pretty good howto's |
| 13:49.59 | Wyzard | f00li5h: from the root= option given to it by GRUB |
| 13:50.19 | f00li5h | Wyzard: i'm not sure that i gave one of those |
| 13:50.23 | wols | !tel Tenkawa about anyone |
| 13:50.35 | Tenkawa | yeah I know how to already.. just wanted to see what the opinion on how good they work is |
| 13:50.43 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5F75A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:50.44 | Wyzard | f00li5h: Look in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:50.57 | Tenkawa | is it worth the setup or just throwing in a 2.5 " drive worth it |
| 13:50.58 | Tenkawa | heh |
| 13:51.12 | Tenkawa | wols: your tell didnt work btw |
| 13:51.25 | *** join/#debian fjavier (n=fgomez@189.132.81.8) |
| 13:51.28 | Wyzard | f00li5h: Well, why do you need to determine why the kernel is mounting your root filesystem, anyway? |
| 13:51.46 | wols | !tell Tenkawa -about anyone |
| 13:51.53 | Tenkawa | haahaa |
| 13:51.59 | f00li5h | Wyzard: because it had mouneted /dev/hdg, which isn't reeal |
| 13:52.04 | f00li5h | Wyzard: well, i can't fdsik it anyway |
| 13:52.10 | f00li5h | and i wanted to know where it got that idea from |
| 13:52.29 | Tenkawa | wols: thats a uselessly vague entry btw... |
| 13:52.36 | wols | f00li5h: dmesg will tell for example |
| 13:52.43 | wols | but not in a easy, greppable way :( |
| 13:52.43 | Tenkawa | pas that on to whoever put that one in the db |
| 13:52.48 | Wyzard | f00li5h: Well, the kernel definitely successfully mounted it |
| 13:52.49 | f00li5h | wols: i have hda1 on / now |
| 13:52.56 | wols | Tenkawa: then it fits perfectly to your question, won't it? |
| 13:53.21 | Tenkawa | wols: not really.. opinion questions are valid with the right references |
| 13:53.21 | f00li5h | Wyzard: i have no idea where a hdg could have come from -- perhaps it's a lie resulting from what's in /etc/fstab |
| 13:53.21 | wols | f00li5h: there is also /proc/ide |
| 13:53.23 | Tenkawa | :) |
| 13:53.28 | Wyzard | f00li5h: or you wouldn't have been able to get that recovery shell |
| 13:53.32 | *** join/#debian piko (n=lukas@PC-162.urel.feec.vutbr.cz) |
| 13:53.33 | Wyzard | f00li5h: That's possible |
| 13:53.53 | wols | Tenkawa: no they are not. cause you don't want to know if anyone uses pxe but you want to know something else |
| 13:54.23 | Tenkawa | actualy.. I "specificly" asked about booting debian thin clients with pxe |
| 13:54.28 | Tenkawa | if you had read it |
| 13:54.44 | Tenkawa | but thats a different story altogether |
| 13:54.49 | Tenkawa | afk again.. |
| 13:54.56 | streuner | well, isn't pxe install mentioned in ig? |
| 13:55.08 | f00li5h | Wyzard: it's fstab |
| 13:55.28 | Tenkawa | streuner: was looking for opinions on its value.. not how its done |
| 13:55.34 | *** join/#debian mkhl (i=mkhl@200-153-181-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 13:55.39 | Tenkawa | trying to decide if its worth the effort |
| 13:55.47 | Tenkawa | or just throwing in 2.5" drives |
| 13:56.01 | *** join/#debian juice` (n=juice_@dkl68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:56.01 | *** join/#debian colbinator (n=colby@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 13:56.11 | *** join/#debian poncha (n=poncha@194.90.81.130) |
| 13:56.17 | psyco-obiwan | Tenkawa: sorry, i missed your question, i use a debian server and netboot for some clients |
| 13:56.21 | Tenkawa | ok. realy afk this time.. gotta get work done |
| 13:56.44 | juice` | is there any linux tool (debian package) that can compare two files and output the diffrences but in a way, that line numbers and order doesnt matter ? |
| 13:56.53 | juice` | diff can't do it i think |
| 13:56.57 | f00li5h | if i'm getting "Cound this be a Zero-length partition" from e2fsck |
| 13:57.01 | f00li5h | my partitoin is boned, right? |
| 13:57.12 | Wyzard | juice`: You could sort both files and then diff the sorted versions |
| 13:57.13 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@ip67-93-222-40.z222-93-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 13:57.48 | Wyzard | f00li5h: Sounds like a nasty message |
| 13:57.52 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-220-165.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 13:57.59 | f00li5h | well, i didnd't really like /home anyway |
| 13:58.01 | SeanTater | Is this normal? filefrag (a 700MB ISO) 613 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents |
| 13:58.03 | juice` | Wyzard: i have two files, one is big list, other is small list. I want all output lines from the big one that are not on a small one |
| 13:58.17 | bzed | f00li5h: paste fdisk -l /dev/yourdisk in a pastebin please |
| 13:58.26 | *** join/#debian rpedro__ (n=rpedro@87-196-10-36.net.novis.pt) |
| 13:58.27 | f00li5h | bzed: recovery shell |
| 13:58.37 | bzed | f00li5h: from initrd? |
| 13:58.42 | f00li5h | bzed: wah? |
| 13:58.44 | f00li5h | sure |
| 13:58.53 | juice` | sort won't help, diff will start outputing those lines anyways i think, even the ones that are on small list as diffrences |
| 13:59.06 | bzed | sounds liek you wanna put some knoppix or so in and ahve a look what's realyl going on , f00li5h |
| 13:59.12 | psyco-obiwan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.18 | bzed | juice`: man comm |
| 13:59.29 | Wyzard | juice`: diff -u <(sort file1) <(sort file2) |
| 13:59.36 | f00li5h | bzed: even if my fstab's fuxxored , i should be ablet o mount the partitions, right? |
| 13:59.59 | bzed | juice`: you need to sort both files before, though, thhen comm will provide what you need |
| 14:00.11 | psyco-obiwan | f00li5h: i think mount refuses to mount dirty partitions |
| 14:00.22 | psyco-obiwan | dirty meaning unchecked and marked as to be checked |
| 14:00.26 | f00li5h | psyco-obiwan: i would have thought that'd be favourablel ... |
| 14:00.31 | biz | is there something similar like the amarok music suite which is able to handle huge music libs but aims to be more lightweight than amarok, and preferably is built for gtk2 rather than the kde stuff? any ideas? gxmms2 doesn't seem do be ready for all day use yet |
| 14:00.55 | bzed | yeah, there is a gnome replacement for amarok |
| 14:00.56 | *** join/#debian capiira (n=capiira@dslb-084-056-011-165.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:01.01 | juice` | Wyzard: the command you gave me gives error saying that there is no argument behind -u |
| 14:01.09 | psyco-obiwan | biz, you might consider slimserver and playback via java-applet |
| 14:01.18 | bzed | biz: exaile ... I think |
| 14:01.27 | biz | yes.. give it to me :-) |
| 14:01.36 | biz | thanks, i'll have a look at these |
| 14:01.39 | bzed | juice`: you wanna leave the < away, and just use comm :) |
| 14:01.39 | juice` | Wyzard: or i guess i shouldnt use '<' |
| 14:01.45 | juice` | bzed: ok :) |
| 14:01.46 | Wyzard | juice`: Apparently you're not using bash, then... but you can just sort the files manually beforehand rather than sorting them on-the-fly like I was doing |
| 14:01.53 | capiira | :/ gnome 2.18 out and we don't even have 2.16 |
| 14:01.56 | juice` | Wyzard: i am using bash |
| 14:01.56 | fluxdude | I've installed samba via apt-get install samba, and at the end it has give me a line like so for every user account |
| 14:02.10 | fluxdude | Importing accout for user1...ok |
| 14:02.24 | fluxdude | notice that the typo accout is actually what it printed. |
| 14:02.51 | fluxdude | does this mean that all the accounts now have samba accounts? This is not wanted! |
| 14:02.52 | bzed | fluxdude: use reportbug and report a wishlist bug against the package and ask them to fix this spoellign mistake |
| 14:03.34 | streuner | capiira: etch is frozen, until its not released don't expect many new packages... |
| 14:03.36 | bzed | fluxdude: and yes, I think that's what it does by default. not a big problem, though, as you can configure access in smb.conf |
| 14:03.49 | fluxdude | how do I list all samba accounts? |
| 14:03.53 | juice` | bzed: wow, this comm command is very nice. |
| 14:03.55 | psyco-obiwan | f00li5h: your problem cant be solved now, but you can workaround it with a sixpack ;-) |
| 14:04.01 | capiira | let me check if its in experimental |
| 14:04.10 | f00li5h | psyco-obiwan: it's 0100, i don't think that's a good idea |
| 14:04.12 | Wyzard | juice`: As bzed pointed out, you can also use comm, and it might be a bit better for the task... you'd use something like: comm -2 -3 <(sort file1) <(sort file2) |
| 14:04.21 | Wyzard | juice`: where file1 is the big list and file2 is the small list |
| 14:04.26 | Crypticfortune_ | hmmm, libnss-ldap got updated today, and suddenly ldap authentication stops working....what could have gone wrong? |
| 14:04.28 | juice` | Wyzard: thanks :) just did it |
| 14:04.35 | *** join/#debian Rippey (i=alex@artouste.research.pau.eisti.fr) |
| 14:04.37 | *** join/#debian parkerc_ (n=parkerc@cpe-24-175-117-93.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 14:04.40 | psyco-obiwan | f00li5h: you're right too late too start, you should be drunk at this time already ;-) |
| 14:05.01 | f00li5h | psyco-obiwan: but. my homedirectory |
| 14:05.04 | psyco-obiwan | s/too/to/ |
| 14:05.19 | f00li5h | here we go |
| 14:05.48 | f00li5h | seems to liek booting as secondary slave |
| 14:06.17 | kryptoz | bzed: Hi |
| 14:06.19 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-17-138.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:06.38 | f00li5h | bastard. |
| 14:06.42 | f00li5h | utter utter bastard |
| 14:06.51 | bzed | kryptoz: O_o |
| 14:06.55 | kryptoz | bzed: I am have done as you told me to "touch /forcefsck" It is not physically near me... |
| 14:06.58 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 14:06.58 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 14:07.18 | bzed | kryptoz: didn't I ask you if you were sitting in front of it? |
| 14:07.24 | f00li5h | my box is back up |
| 14:07.30 | f00li5h | what a massive pain in the arse |
| 14:07.46 | bzed | f00li5h: stop plugging thing in there |
| 14:07.48 | f00li5h | so, is there a list of config files i have to change |
| 14:07.49 | kryptoz | bzed: yeah. sorry i have a ssh session. sorry the machine is in US and i am in India |
| 14:07.59 | f00li5h | bzed: ok, i've got 1 from 3 of my disks |
| 14:08.19 | f00li5h | i want the other disks to store my - documents - on n |
| 14:08.21 | kryptoz | I am gonna unmount it and run a fsck -y |
| 14:08.27 | *** part/#debian levels (n=shay@80.179.31.43.static.012.net.il) |
| 14:08.33 | *** join/#debian tminos (n=bowens@office.techxpress.net) |
| 14:08.42 | bzed | kryptoz: you can set that option in /etc/default/rcS |
| 14:08.59 | f00li5h | right, so there a list of config files you have to change when you want to move a disk from secondary slave to primary master? |
| 14:09.19 | bzed | kryptoz: that;s why I've asked you if you were sitting in front of the box. although if it just started well and didn;t get stuck at some 'help me' promt, the fsck didn;t find anything |
| 14:09.37 | bzed | f00li5h: /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 14:09.38 | f00li5h | bzed: did someone change your keymap and not tell you? |
| 14:10.10 | *** join/#debian teclo- (i=42@83.101.7.17) |
| 14:10.11 | bzed | f00li5h: no, my finger only seems to be too lazy to move that one cm more right to hit the ' instead of ; |
| 14:10.13 | *** join/#debian Koos (n=spam@ip51ceec44.speed.planet.nl) |
| 14:10.14 | teclo- | !version swi-prolog |
| 14:10.15 | juice` | is it possible to run a command with some other user privs, even if this user doesnt have any shell defined in /etc/passwd ? |
| 14:10.18 | f00li5h | bzed: i see |
| 14:10.21 | teclo- | hm |
| 14:10.22 | f00li5h | HOLY HELL |
| 14:10.28 | teclo- | where is the supybot ? |
| 14:10.29 | f00li5h | grub waws doing it |
| 14:10.34 | bzed | f00li5h: you could use UUIDs instead of devices and then you could jsut put them anywhere ;) |
| 14:10.40 | *** join/#debian tralala (n=joro@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 14:10.46 | f00li5h | grub on good disk, booted linux on bad disk (since i swapped thier ide spots) |
| 14:10.49 | streuner | teclo-: use apt instead |
| 14:10.53 | *** join/#debian HymnToLife (n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:10.54 | streuner | apt, hi |
| 14:11.06 | apt | hello, streuner |
| 14:11.07 | f00li5h | PENNY TIME! |
| 14:11.09 | teclo- | apt, version swi-prolog |
| 14:11.14 | f00li5h | bzed: tellm e of these UUUIds |
| 14:11.15 | teclo- | apt, !version swi-prolog |
| 14:11.22 | kryptoz | bzed: sorry. I will add that option right away. But anyway office will be open there by now and somebody will be there to monitor it :) |
| 14:11.28 | teclo- | apt: do you understand ? |
| 14:11.30 | apt | yes, I understand. |
| 14:11.32 | streuner | teclo-: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:11.55 | *** join/#debian outlaw84 (n=mihaly@static-213-115-48-98.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:11.59 | outlaw84 | how do you print A3 pages with kpdf/cups? |
| 14:12.00 | f00li5h | so all i need to do is kick grub in the guts and swap the disks back |
| 14:12.04 | teclo- | streuner: find out what version of swi-prolog comes with sid, and try to backport it to etch |
| 14:12.19 | bzed | f00li5h: http://manual.sidux.com/en/part-uuid-en.htm |
| 14:12.35 | f00li5h | bzed: more than i would ever want to know? |
| 14:12.43 | streuner | teclo-: /msg dpkg (bot) info <package>, by default it outputs the version of sid/unstable |
| 14:12.54 | bzed | f00li5h: you need etch and udev, though |
| 14:13.00 | *** join/#debian neozerosv (n=neozero@168.243.7.158) |
| 14:13.06 | streuner | teclo-: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 14:13.12 | juice` | is it possible to run a command with some other user privs, even if this user doesnt have any shell defined in /etc/passwd ? sudo doesnt want to work when using sudo -p user command. it just writes a file with root permissions anyways |
| 14:13.15 | bzed | !tell teclo- about selftell |
| 14:13.21 | f00li5h | bzed: i don't have either of those things |
| 14:13.32 | CAiRO | lol, neve force the unload the ipv6 module.. it has crashed my kernel.. after 302 days without a reboot.. darn |
| 14:13.38 | juice` | i meant sudo -u... |
| 14:13.39 | bzed | f00li5h: ok then, you'll have to you /dev/myfavouritehd ;) |
| 14:13.39 | CAiRO | s/the/to |
| 14:13.41 | *** join/#debian Flawless (n=chrivers@zeus.sikkerhed.org) |
| 14:13.52 | Flawless | etch release? /msg dpkg wwer |
| 14:13.53 | f00li5h | bzed: consarnit. |
| 14:13.56 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 14:14.01 | Flawless | ach, sorry :) |
| 14:14.06 | f00li5h | bzed: can udev's be read by other non-linux folk? say NetBSD for example? |
| 14:14.08 | bzed | CAiRO: never force a module unload at all, except you wanna develope on the kernel ;) |
| 14:14.19 | bzed | f00li5h: you mean UUIDs? |
| 14:14.24 | f00li5h | bzed: i do. |
| 14:14.29 | bzed | !tell f00li5h about udev |
| 14:14.31 | DawnLight | hey, how do i see what's runnig? |
| 14:14.37 | *** part/#debian perlmonkey (n=paul@82-37-57-50.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 14:14.42 | Fox | DawnLight: man ps |
| 14:15.01 | CAiRO | bzed: yeah, i should have read the man page more closely |
| 14:15.02 | Crypticfortune_ | juice`: sudo -u works for me....something wrong with your sudo? |
| 14:15.02 | streuner | DawnLight: or simply run 'top' |
| 14:15.21 | juice` | Crypticfortune_: even if the user has /bin/false as a shell ? |
| 14:15.22 | f00li5h | bzed: that was about as useless as i could ever hope from a bot |
| 14:15.32 | Crypticfortune_ | juice`: ooh. wait, hang on |
| 14:15.47 | bzed | f00li5h: where's your problem!? |
| 14:15.51 | f00li5h | bzed: answer 1 in the faq is a see also |
| 14:15.55 | *** join/#debian d00d (n=d00d@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 14:16.01 | juice` | Crypticfortune_: i'm doing sudo -u user echo "123" > file |
| 14:16.03 | f00li5h | bzed: it didn't /tell/ me anything |
| 14:16.09 | juice` | then i'm checking file permissions |
| 14:16.12 | juice` | and they are root |
| 14:16.21 | bzed | f00li5h: you didn't seem to knwo what udev is, it tells you what udev is |
| 14:16.44 | *** join/#debian Joelio (n=joel@91.186.10.197) |
| 14:16.49 | f00li5h | i'll read the faq |
| 14:17.11 | Crypticfortune_ | juice`: yup still worked |
| 14:17.13 | f00li5h | my question about usefulness to other OSs stands though |
| 14:17.17 | bzed | f00li5h: and I told you that if you're using etch (which brings udev), you can use UUIDs to identify your partitions, as described in the lik I gave you |
| 14:17.41 | juice` | Crypticfortune_: really? hmm... strange... this user doesnt have group also, maybe that's it ? |
| 14:17.48 | f00li5h | bzed: yes, there's plenty of stuff for me to read... |
| 14:17.48 | bzed | f00li5h: other OSs don't have anythign to do with it? I can;t see how udev is related to any other os? |
| 14:18.06 | Crypticfortune_ | juice`: incidentally im testing using "touch file" instead of >. "sudo -u user echo "123" > file" will try to write file as the user doing sudo (not the sudo'd user) |
| 14:18.09 | f00li5h | bzed: perhaps i want to do mount /dev/my_linux_home_dirs on a netbsd box |
| 14:18.18 | f00li5h | bzed: as an example |
| 14:18.44 | bzed | f00li5h: you want to move your harddisk in an othe rbox? |
| 14:18.48 | juice` | Crypticfortune_: ooh, that's the problem. thanks |
| 14:19.38 | f00li5h | bzed: no, i dual boot, hypothetically |
| 14:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 728] by debhelper |
| 14:20.06 | *** join/#debian d00d_ (n=d00d_@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 14:20.06 | bzed | f00li5h: bsd uses a totally different way to name the devices, as far as I remember |
| 14:20.07 | Crypticfortune_ | juice`: np. now you can help me fix my ldap problem ^^ |
| 14:20.34 | bzed | Crypticfortune_: remove it :D |
| 14:20.44 | f00li5h | bzed: yes, that's why it'd be handy for that partition to have a UUID |
| 14:20.49 | *** join/#debian Archville (n=archvill@125.Red-83-57-101.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:20.54 | Archville | Hi. |
| 14:21.00 | f00li5h | hi there Archville |
| 14:21.24 | bzed | f00li5h: afaik the partition always has an UUID, the question is if netbsd is able to use it |
| 14:21.24 | Crypticfortune_ | bzed: oo that'd make it much much worse =( |
| 14:21.48 | bzed | Crypticfortune_: you jsut wanna ask, probably somebiody can help you |
| 14:22.40 | f00li5h | bzed: so udev is pretty new then, and it's not likely to be on other OS's then? |
| 14:22.46 | Crypticfortune_ | i already did: hmmm, libnss-ldap got updated today, and suddenly ldap authentication stops working....what could have gone wrong? "getent passwd" works, but "id bob" or ldap'd logins dont |
| 14:23.00 | bzed | f00li5h: you'd need a linux kernel to be able to use udev :P |
| 14:23.11 | f00li5h | bzed: gay. |
| 14:23.19 | *** join/#debian nunu (n=nunu@p5481DFE1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:23.25 | f00li5h | i don't think NetBSD has a linux kernel |
| 14:23.27 | f00li5h | from memory |
| 14:23.30 | bzed | i doubt that |
| 14:23.30 | bzed | lol |
| 14:23.30 | *** join/#debian drako (n=ljd@unaffiliated/luisjose) |
| 14:23.44 | *** join/#debian deringo (n=usr@89.36.21.119) |
| 14:23.47 | deringo | hi all |
| 14:24.02 | deringo | how an external dvd writer supposed to be mounted as /dev/sda? |
| 14:24.08 | bzed | f00li5h: if you wanna have a war go into #someBSDchan and ask when they'll swap to the linux kernel |
| 14:24.17 | bzed | deringo: not at all |
| 14:24.20 | *** join/#debian atilaX (n=atilax@251.Red-217-127-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:24.29 | bzed | deringo: except you put a dvd ram into it |
| 14:24.30 | f00li5h | bzed: i don't want a flame war |
| 14:24.59 | *** part/#debian atilaX (n=atilax@251.Red-217-127-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:25.13 | bzed | f00li5h: lol, you don't need to read the udev docs |
| 14:25.14 | CAiRO | what the official site for the linux kernel? i went to linux.org but its full of ads and looks different then what i remember |
| 14:25.21 | Crypticfortune_ | bzed re bsd: *laugh* |
| 14:25.23 | bzed | CAiRO: kernel.org |
| 14:25.25 | cydork | CAiRO: kernel.org |
| 14:25.25 | Lamperi | CAiRO: kernel.org ? |
| 14:25.29 | bzed | lol |
| 14:25.29 | graytron | CAiRO: kernel.org |
| 14:25.35 | CAiRO | thanks :) |
| 14:25.40 | f00li5h | bzed: i'm having trouble getting through the FAQ, they don't seem to be questions i woudl ask |
| 14:26.07 | CAiRO | i just wonder why the spammy linux.org has pr9 |
| 14:26.17 | f00li5h | See also: Fri Mar 16 01:26:17 EST 2007 |
| 14:26.25 | *** join/#debian nipra (n=Nikhil@221.135.222.2) |
| 14:26.48 | *** join/#debian waynayachaq (n=chatzill@201.240.67.53) |
| 14:27.00 | *** part/#debian tralala (n=joro@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 14:28.23 | *** join/#debian Shisui (i=chris@AAmiens-152-1-24-244.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:30.34 | *** join/#debian pascutti (n=angelo@201.66.25.150) |
| 14:30.45 | Rippey | anyone around running xen from backport ? i have problem with vif and i cant solve it |
| 14:32.10 | wols | !anyone uses xen from backports |
| 14:32.17 | wols | !anyone use xen from backports |
| 14:32.17 | dpkg | No, no one uses xen from backports, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:32.26 | wols | state your real problem instead |
| 14:34.08 | *** join/#debian SRabbelier (n=sverre@82-171-166-90.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 14:35.26 | buscon | Hi, how can I log all my shell output to a file? |
| 14:35.37 | SRabbelier | buscon: echo test > file |
| 14:35.59 | buscon | SRabbelier, ok, but I mean logging always |
| 14:36.08 | azeem | buscon: look at script, maybe |
| 14:36.33 | SRabbelier | buscon: I think you'd have to set up your shell to do that, like azeem said, with some sort of script possibly |
| 14:36.51 | *** join/#debian tsurko (n=tsurko@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg) |
| 14:36.54 | azeem | script is a program |
| 14:36.57 | azeem | man script |
| 14:37.08 | Rippey | wols, here is the error : Error: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working. that seems to be a classic error, but i cant solve it |
| 14:37.09 | buscon | yea, I'm reading it :) |
| 14:37.20 | buscon | thanx azeem and SRabbelier :) |
| 14:37.23 | SRabbelier | azeem: usefull, gotta remember that one |
| 14:37.52 | eisen | My kde menu is a mess on etch. Is there a possibility to revert to the default? |
| 14:38.02 | *** join/#debian limpio (n=luigi@201.226.61.53) |
| 14:38.28 | eisen | well, the default is probably as messy but at least all shortcuts are likely to work |
| 14:39.59 | CAiRO | hmm, why is neither 2.6.19 nor 2.6.20 available as debian package? |
| 14:40.10 | *** join/#debian oye (i=oye@unaffiliated/oye) |
| 14:40.12 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 14:40.29 | bzed | buscon: you wanna ask in #bash :) |
| 14:41.03 | bzed | CAiRO: probably because the kernel maintainers want to get 2.6.18 fixed first? |
| 14:41.08 | SRabbelier | I'm trying to install gaim-beta6, I *think* I added the experimental package to /etc/apt/sources.list ( http://rafb.net/p/4MjVMG36.html ) but synaptic doesn't show the beta5 package as upgradable, any idea as to what I'm doing wrong? |
| 14:41.36 | stew | CAiRO: becuase 2.6.20 is being held out until etch has released so that there is a sane upgrade path if they need to move another 2.6.18 bugfix kernel through unstable into testing |
| 14:41.42 | *** join/#debian Number_5 (i=five@haxxors.org) |
| 14:41.51 | CAiRO | hmm, i see |
| 14:41.57 | bzed | SRabbelier: http://pastebin.ca/396100 |
| 14:42.04 | *** join/#debian mae_ (n=mae@111.63-199-71.atginternet.com) |
| 14:42.21 | SRabbelier | bzed: sweet, thanks mate |
| 14:42.39 | bzed | SRabbelier: you do _not_ want to add experimental and unstable to those lists only, configure apt to stay with etch as described in the link |
| 14:43.08 | buscon | bzed, yea but sometimes unix has beautiful surprises :) |
| 14:43.10 | SRabbelier | bzed: that's what teh APT::Default-Release "testing"; line does right? |
| 14:43.22 | bzed | yes SRabbelier |
| 14:43.29 | *** join/#debian vince- (n=vince@rhylkim.com) |
| 14:43.38 | h3sp4wn | shouldn't be necessary for experimental as it always has a priority of 1 |
| 14:43.48 | SRabbelier | bzed: -nods-, I'll try that :) |
| 14:43.49 | h3sp4wn | (unless changed) |
| 14:43.52 | *** part/#debian vince- (n=vince@rhylkim.com) |
| 14:43.56 | bzed | h3sp4wn: but for unstable which SRabbelier has in the list, too |
| 14:44.28 | h3sp4wn | Then its necessary for that |
| 14:44.29 | bzed | strike that: I thought SRabbelier had in the list :P |
| 14:44.29 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@ADSL-TPLUS-89-135.telecomplus.net) |
| 14:45.13 | SRabbelier | bzed: ^__^ what's the diff between etch and testing? |
| 14:45.25 | bzed | !tell SRabbelier about testing |
| 14:45.33 | SRabbelier | sweet :D |
| 14:45.59 | *** join/#debian Maerz (n=anonym00@pD95605B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:46.12 | SRabbelier | bzed: Then why did you say striek that? Since I have etch in the list? |
| 14:46.53 | bzed | SRabbelier: etch is testing, I thought you had unstable in the list (which you could add anyway :P) |
| 14:47.00 | Archville | How can i resize my current root partition ? |
| 14:47.05 | Archville | Do i need i livecd ? |
| 14:47.18 | kryptoz | Hi all |
| 14:47.32 | *** part/#debian Number_5 (i=five@haxxors.org) |
| 14:47.45 | kryptoz | is fsck -y guarenteed to run it without a single prompt ? |
| 14:48.15 | bzed | it should yes |
| 14:48.17 | SRabbelier | bzed: bah, now I'm the one who should say strike that ^^. I thought you thought I had testing |
| 14:48.23 | *** join/#debian gizmatix (n=headshop@8.237-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 14:48.30 | bzed | SRabbelier: :D you have testing :P |
| 14:48.37 | kryptoz | okay... |
| 14:48.41 | kryptoz | thank you |
| 14:49.56 | SRabbelier | bzed: aye -nodnod-, btw, in the paste it sais "cont", that shoudl be "contrib"? |
| 14:50.06 | bzed | yes |
| 14:51.27 | *** join/#debian karrotx_ (n=steve@64.253.3.13) |
| 14:51.31 | SRabbelier | bzed: like this http://pastebin.ca/396112 ? |
| 14:53.00 | *** join/#debian peppe (i=proxyuse@dhcp-131-114-3-71.di.unipi.it) |
| 14:53.34 | bzed | SRabbelier: you could add a deb-src line for sid |
| 14:53.47 | *** join/#debian holdenSK (n=holden@icm3-orange.orange.sk) |
| 14:54.13 | SRabbelier | bzed: copy the sid line and replace deb with deb-src? |
| 14:54.48 | bzed | yes |
| 14:55.25 | loca|host | wich utility do you use to compress in rar or zip archive format ? |
| 14:55.41 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.42 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-214-77.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 14:55.47 | holdenSK | loca|host: rar or zip perhaps ? |
| 14:55.48 | bzed | loca|host: zip, rar |
| 14:56.23 | loca|host | okay |
| 14:56.25 | loca|host | :) |
| 14:56.35 | loca|host | seems hard to know :D |
| 14:56.48 | SRabbelier | bzed: synaptic can't do that? (apt-get -t experimental install gaim seems to work though) |
| 14:56.54 | RvGaTe | any guides on how to install/replace the nvidia drivers with the latest version on debian etch? |
| 14:56.55 | loca|host | simplicity is hard sometimes |
| 14:57.45 | bzed | SRabbelier: no clue, I don't use it :P |
| 14:58.04 | bzed | !tell RvGaTe abot nvidia one-liner |
| 14:58.05 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (i=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 14:58.08 | bzed | !tell RvGaTe about nvidia one-liner |
| 14:58.25 | DawnLight | hello people |
| 14:58.37 | bzed | RvGaTe: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade in your case, probably |
| 14:58.53 | RvGaTe | bzed, i know that one, but there are some questions related to it... like, where do i get the latest drivers, how do i replace them, how would i revert it... stuff like that |
| 14:58.55 | *** join/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 14:58.56 | h3sp4wn | !info nvidia-glx experimental |
| 14:59.00 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.9746-2 (experimental), Packaged size: 4103 kB, Installed size: 13048 kB |
| 14:59.09 | h3sp4wn | The latest version is not in debian at all |
| 14:59.13 | SRabbelier | gotta love linux for being able to upgrade stuff while said stuff is still in use :) |
| 14:59.17 | wols | RvGaTe: same how you'd get any other package in debian |
| 14:59.39 | holdenSK | !info mpd |
| 14:59.45 | dpkg | mpd: (Music Player Daemon), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.12.1-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 392 kB |
| 14:59.51 | RvGaTe | wols, i need version 1.0.9xxx, etch still has 1.0.8xxx so the regular way does not work |
| 15:00.12 | DawnLight | i am trying to run dpkg-reconfig gdm, and it's telling me that x is open... i try ctrl alt backspace but it still tells me the same... any suggestions? appretiate it |
| 15:00.17 | wols | then you must use the one from nvidia.com. Etch won't change versions anymore |
| 15:00.32 | h3sp4wn | RvGaTe: You could use simple sid backport from experimental |
| 15:00.39 | bzed | RvGaTe: http://pastebin.ca/396129 - don't blame anybody if you break your sytem or anything by that, experimental is experimental |
| 15:00.43 | SRabbelier | DawnLight did you try switching to ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 15:01.25 | DawnLight | that's where im typing the dpkg-reconfig |
| 15:01.44 | wols | DawnLight: ctrl+alt+f1, log in as root. /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 15:01.46 | SRabbelier | Doesn't X11 automatically restart when you use ctrl-alt-backsppace? |
| 15:01.52 | bzed | SRabbelier: it does |
| 15:01.59 | azeem | a display manager might restart it |
| 15:02.00 | bzed | (if you didn't disable it) |
| 15:02.11 | SRabbelier | wols solution seems approrpiate then ;D |
| 15:02.11 | h3sp4wn | Doesn't if you use xinit or startx |
| 15:02.11 | wols | SRabbelier: no. but gdm automatically restarts when you close X. with ctrl+alt+bkspace or otherwise |
| 15:02.24 | SRabbelier | wols: ah -nod- |
| 15:02.30 | DawnLight | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.53 | SRabbelier | DawnLight: that stops the gdm service/daemon |
| 15:02.54 | azeem | DawnLight: it's a command you should issue on the console |
| 15:03.25 | SRabbelier | DawnLight when you're done reconfiguring you'll want to run /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 15:03.31 | RvGaTe | h3sp4wn, there is no backport from sid to etch... |
| 15:03.49 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@88.128.20.164) |
| 15:03.50 | RvGaTe | bzed, i know all the rules about mixing stuff like that, dont worry about that :P |
| 15:03.56 | SRabbelier | now.. brb, switchting to the new gaim ;D |
| 15:04.00 | *** part/#debian SRabbelier (n=sverre@82-171-166-90.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 15:04.05 | RvGaTe | bzed, im gonna give it a try |
| 15:04.27 | *** join/#debian nipra (n=Nikhil@221.135.222.2) |
| 15:04.39 | DawnLight | when i type dpkg-reconfigure it says "Reloading GNOME display manager configuration. changes will take effect when all x sessions have ended" |
| 15:04.42 | *** join/#debian SRabbelier (n=sverre@82-171-166-90.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 15:04.55 | *** part/#debian dustybin_ (i=dustybin@secksy.net) |
| 15:05.00 | DawnLight | and i have stopped gdm |
| 15:05.09 | wols | RvGaTe: the point is you should make your own |
| 15:05.14 | h3sp4wn | RvGaTe: ? backport from experimental to etch if you want to do it (source is is nvidia-graphics-drivers) |
| 15:05.19 | azeem | DawnLight: so if you start gdm again, it should have the new settings |
| 15:05.30 | RvGaTe | bzed, that method you gave me, how easy is it to revert it if it doesn't work ? |
| 15:05.45 | *** join/#debian holdenSK_ (n=holden@icm3-orange.orange.sk) |
| 15:06.07 | *** join/#debian mendred (n=mendred@59.93.70.247) |
| 15:06.08 | *** join/#debian scarnia (n=scarnia@238.pool85-56-11.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 15:06.12 | bzed | RvGaTe: deinstall all nvidia-* packages and change back to the nv driver in xorg.conf |
| 15:06.16 | *** join/#debian alkalineX (n=sysop@unaffiliated/iwalker) |
| 15:06.31 | scarnia | hi to all |
| 15:06.35 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 15:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 15:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 15:07.02 | DawnLight | it tells me in tty7 that i need to reconfigure gdm.config to point to the correct location |
| 15:07.16 | scarnia | anyone here has an 965p board with jmicron and has sucesfully compiled kernel? |
| 15:07.21 | azeem | DawnLight: correct location of what? |
| 15:07.22 | *** join/#debian DeliPenguen (n=tugrul@ns1.tugrul.org) |
| 15:07.28 | DawnLight | of x i guess |
| 15:07.46 | DawnLight | ican give the exact thing in a couple |
| 15:07.46 | azeem | DawnLight: please paste/transcribe the full message to a pastebin |
| 15:07.48 | azeem | !paste |
| 15:07.48 | dpkg | i heard paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste on FreeNode and http://channels.debian.net/paste2/ on OFTC |
| 15:07.52 | bzed | scarnia: there should be a fix for that jmicron problem in the 2.6.18 kernel in etch (at least there's a patch in the source, not sure if it's applied allready) |
| 15:08.23 | scarnia | bzed yes i've a kernel working, but it is the precompiled one |
| 15:08.34 | DawnLight | i don't have gui so i'll do it here, its a few lines okay? |
| 15:08.35 | bzed | scarnia: where's the problem? |
| 15:08.38 | *** join/#debian holdenSK_ (n=holden@icm3-orange.orange.sk) |
| 15:08.48 | stew | hah, its kinda silly for us to have 2 different paste urls for the two netwoks |
| 15:08.50 | bzed | !tell DawnLight about paste |
| 15:09.05 | scarnia | y want to recompile it to remove all useless modules and options |
| 15:09.05 | bzed | stew: especialyl since paster doesn't tell anything in the channels at all |
| 15:09.24 | bzed | !tell scarnia about make-kpkg |
| 15:09.48 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl (n=Zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl) |
| 15:09.55 | scarnia | bzed i know how to compile the kernel, :P |
| 15:10.01 | azeem | stew: I just thought the same |
| 15:10.19 | scarnia | the problem is not geting it to work, withe some problem with the sata an ide controllers |
| 15:10.26 | *** join/#debian binary (n=binary@mail.openitup.org) |
| 15:10.40 | binary | hello |
| 15:10.49 | binary | I have a question |
| 15:10.52 | azeem | DawnLight: if it's less than four lines, go ahead |
| 15:10.55 | scarnia | bzed: it seem to rename or not discover my ide devices and it gets unable to boot the system |
| 15:10.55 | binary | ok |
| 15:11.05 | bzed | scarnia: use 2.6.20 and read the kernel documentation. |
| 15:11.06 | *** join/#debian DigitalOktay (n=DigitalO@dslb-084-057-225-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:11.09 | binary | Can anybody recommend a wireless card |
| 15:11.15 | DigitalOktay | Hi Channel ;-) |
| 15:11.20 | binary | that works straight out of the box in Etch |
| 15:11.24 | binary | this is a PCMCIA card |
| 15:11.29 | bzed | scarnia: you probably want to use the old pata drivers instead of pata via libsata |
| 15:11.52 | scarnia | bzed: using 2.6.20.3 and reade carefully the help, :P |
| 15:11.59 | bzed | binary: something with an intel or atheros chipset for example |
| 15:12.07 | binary | rite |
| 15:12.11 | scarnia | bzed: ok i will try to use old pata drivers |
| 15:12.12 | binary | such as ... |
| 15:12.17 | DigitalOktay | GNOME 2.18 Released |
| 15:12.21 | binary | really |
| 15:12.26 | binary | sorry |
| 15:12.38 | bzed | scarnia: not sure if they work with that jmicron hack, probably you need an extra patch |
| 15:12.54 | DigitalOktay | http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-2-18-Released-49471.shtml |
| 15:13.01 | bzed | binary: ask the vendors. sometimes they even change the chipset on the card with the same label |
| 15:13.03 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@tmo-018-115.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 15:13.10 | binary | ok |
| 15:13.12 | binary | I will |
| 15:13.31 | bzed | binary: a good dealer should know if it works |
| 15:13.37 | binary | ok |
| 15:13.39 | binary | wicked |
| 15:13.45 | binary | thanks |
| 15:13.51 | scarnia | bzed where can i fin this patch? |
| 15:13.54 | binary | ok then, I must be off |
| 15:13.56 | binary | byes |
| 15:14.40 | scarnia | bzed i've read so much pages in inet about the problem, but all says that it solved in 2.6.18, obviously not solved to me, :P |
| 15:15.17 | scarnia | bzed well i'm going to try another config with old support, will be back later to comment my results |
| 15:15.24 | scarnia | bzed thks for the help, :p |
| 15:15.27 | *** join/#debian HymnToLife (n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:15.31 | bzed | scarnia: just read the patch, you want to use libata, the non-libata driver is more or less a hack. you former /dev/hd* will be under /dev/sd* then |
| 15:15.32 | *** join/#debian cafuego_ (n=cafuego@caffeine.mel.cc.com.au) |
| 15:15.45 | *** join/#debian tombs (n=tombs@ip565e4a39.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:15.57 | bzed | scarnia: I'd recommend to stay with the debian kernel, though |
| 15:16.51 | scarnia | bzed whith my current kernel y have my sata disk under /dev/sd* yet |
| 15:17.15 | bzed | scarnia: ad the pata disks will pop up there, too, if you use libata (as far as I remember) |
| 15:18.06 | scarnia | bzed ok, i'll try another config in kernel, later i'll say you my results |
| 15:19.20 | *** join/#debian TolstoyInlove (n=TolstoyI@unaffiliated/tolstoyinlove) |
| 15:19.40 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 15:21.32 | *** join/#debian jinro (n=kwj@li4-76.members.linode.com) |
| 15:21.36 | *** join/#debian drummer_wilson (n=romanosG@dsl-88-218-12-157.customers.vivodi.gr) |
| 15:21.44 | *** join/#debian LunarCrisis (n=LunarCri@toronto-hs-216-138-195-194.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 15:22.04 | LunarCrisis | Is there a simple tool for concatenatinv pdf files? |
| 15:22.23 | bzed | pdfjoin |
| 15:22.29 | drummer_wilson | hi all! im having some weird problem with my partitions. dunno why but i got different time on my other operating systems that i set up on my other partiotions. anyone knows whats causing that? |
| 15:22.31 | LunarCrisis | thanks bzed |
| 15:22.48 | bzed | np |
| 15:23.08 | azeem | drummer_wilson: different time for the modified time stamps of the files? |
| 15:23.25 | drummer_wilson | azeem: different time on the clock |
| 15:23.39 | azeem | drummer_wilson: why do you think it's a problem with partitions then? |
| 15:23.48 | drummer_wilson | i m sure |
| 15:23.59 | *** join/#debian khally (n=Gnewf@GroupMackenzie.s11-1-0-16-0.ar3.SEA1.gblx.net) |
| 15:24.02 | azeem | drummer_wilson: so Debian shows the right time, and the others are wrong? |
| 15:24.05 | khally | my cpu is at 3% but my box is going really slow and my load average is huge!! how do i find out what's going on??? |
| 15:24.16 | stew | khally: /msg dpkg am i swapping |
| 15:24.33 | drummer_wilson | azeem: i have 6 different os .. debian , suse, osx86 |
| 15:24.37 | drummer_wilson | and win. |
| 15:24.44 | stew | khally: do you have a large "io wait" aka "wa%"? |
| 15:24.45 | azeem | drummer_wilson: that didn't answer my question |
| 15:25.05 | *** join/#debian amerej (n=rej@athedsl-145345.otenet.gr) |
| 15:25.13 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@unaffiliated/ma3x) |
| 15:25.20 | drummer_wilson | whatever time i set osx86 to be, it will show the same time on debian , but not in the other systems |
| 15:25.21 | ma3x | whats the keymap file name? |
| 15:25.37 | *** join/#debian ramHero (n=user@194.pool62-37-184.static.orange.es) |
| 15:25.40 | azeem | drummer_wilson: what is osx86? |
| 15:25.51 | drummer_wilson | azeem:osx for laptop |
| 15:25.51 | stew | drummer_wilson: what is the time difference? is it one hour? is it the same difference between your time zone and UTC? |
| 15:26.14 | *** join/#debian DawnLight (n=dalia@85.64.218.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 15:26.24 | *** join/#debian c1ru (n=pacogp@81.202.46.61.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:26.26 | drummer_wilson | stew: 2 hours difference |
| 15:26.35 | azeem | drummer_wilson: which time zone are you in? |
| 15:26.41 | *** join/#debian php-freak (i=tdd1984@74-133-97-232.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 15:26.42 | DawnLight | im back with the gdm.config problem, one minute! |
| 15:26.43 | azeem | greece I guess |
| 15:26.46 | ma3x | xmodmap -e "keycode 117 = Multi_key" |
| 15:26.51 | ma3x | when I type that, then it wears out after a few days |
| 15:26.52 | drummer_wilson | guys: its not a time zone issue |
| 15:26.52 | azeem | which is GMT+2 |
| 15:26.55 | ma3x | how can I save it!? |
| 15:27.11 | php-freak | Hey guys do you know of a place I can support the open source foundation, but a link to my comapny is provided showing I supported? |
| 15:27.11 | azeem | drummer_wilson: is it exactly two hours, or something like 1 hour 40? |
| 15:27.12 | *** join/#debian amaldo (n=amaldo@pdpc/supporter/student/amaldo) |
| 15:27.12 | *** join/#debian fjavier (n=fgomez@189.132.24.145) |
| 15:27.22 | drummer_wilson | exactly |
| 15:27.31 | azeem | drummer_wilson: then why do you think it is not a time zone issue? |
| 15:27.32 | ma3x | how come noone knows? |
| 15:27.44 | azeem | ma3x: put it in your .bash_profile? |
| 15:27.49 | azeem | or .xsession |
| 15:27.50 | azeem | rather |
| 15:27.51 | drummer_wilson | azeem: cause ive already tried it like millions of times |
| 15:28.02 | stew | drummer_wilson: sounds like you need to toggle the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS ; if you dual boot with windows you probably need to set it to yes. then make sure all of your non-winodows OSes are correctly informed that you have made that change |
| 15:28.26 | *** join/#debian eshaase (n=eshaase@cpe-72-177-7-248.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 15:28.37 | *** join/#debian AngusRF (n=Angus@p54913413.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:28.37 | drummer_wilson | stew: let me check that :) |
| 15:28.42 | ma3x | azeem: I don't have .xsession should I create one and put xmodmap -e "keycode 117 = Multi_key" ? |
| 15:28.57 | azeem | how do you start X? What desktop environment do you use? |
| 15:29.00 | drummer_wilson | stew: im booting like 6 os |
| 15:29.00 | ma3x | e |
| 15:29.01 | ma3x | kde |
| 15:29.14 | drummer_wilson | stew: 2 windows, suse, debian, osx86 |
| 15:29.14 | azeem | you start X by typing `e'? |
| 15:29.19 | ma3x | no, no |
| 15:29.21 | ma3x | with kdm |
| 15:29.23 | azeem | ok |
| 15:29.26 | eshaase | i'm using firefox 2.0.0.2 and I've noticed that firefox uses *alot* of CPU and lags alot for lots of sites (javascript?), any suggestions? |
| 15:29.43 | drummer_wilson | stew: the weird thing is that im settin up the time on osx and it gets the same time on debian but not in the other systems |
| 15:29.52 | drummer_wilson | :~ |
| 15:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 740] by debhelper |
| 15:30.02 | stew | drummer_wilson: doesn't seem wierd to me |
| 15:30.09 | *** join/#debian kaeles (n=kaeles@doc-72-47-41-233.we.ok.cebridge.net) |
| 15:30.14 | drummer_wilson | stew: y not? |
| 15:30.20 | kaeles | in my interfaces file, can i do a modprobe? |
| 15:30.27 | kaeles | err network/interfaces |
| 15:30.32 | stew | drummer_wilson: this problem is common since windows assumes the hardware clock is localtime and debian assumes the clock is UTC |
| 15:30.47 | *** join/#debian mRk` (n=MReek@aut75-1-87-90-35-29.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 15:30.50 | azeem | kaeles: no |
| 15:30.52 | SRabbelier | drummer_wilson Debian and osx have the same UTC-setting (e.g, both on), while the others think it's off |
| 15:30.53 | drummer_wilson | yes.. but i got different time on suse than debian.. |
| 15:31.03 | drummer_wilson | oh.. isee |
| 15:31.07 | azeem | kaeles: well, you could via the hookd, but why do you need it? |
| 15:31.12 | kaeles | bonding |
| 15:31.26 | DawnLight | GDM: xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 <br> Error: Command could not be executed! <br> Please install the x server or edit /etc/gdm/gdm.config to point to the riht place. |
| 15:31.29 | SRabbelier | dummer_wilson easiest fix would be to set UTC on debian and osX to off also |
| 15:31.33 | *** join/#debian Soner (n=Sohbet@88.234.86.168) |
| 15:31.41 | Soner | Türk |
| 15:31.43 | kaeles | or better yet, where could i toss a script to run at boot-time ? |
| 15:31.44 | Soner | varmi |
| 15:31.50 | drummer_wilson | SRabbelier: what is utc? |
| 15:31.50 | azeem | !tr |
| 15:31.51 | dpkg | it has been said that tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net) -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 15:31.53 | Knight_Lord | I have a strange problem with X forwarding |
| 15:31.57 | stew | !utc |
| 15:31.57 | wols | DawnLight: do you have xserver-xorg installed? |
| 15:31.57 | dpkg | [utc] Universal Time Convention, aka GMT. In /etc/default/rcS set UTC appropriately, then run # invoke-rc.d hwclock.sh restart |
| 15:31.58 | Knight_Lord | It doesn't seem to work |
| 15:32.05 | Knight_Lord | What do I have to do to activate it? |
| 15:32.06 | SRabbelier | !tell drummer_wilson about utc |
| 15:32.09 | DawnLight | will check :) |
| 15:32.10 | stew | hmm utc is not aka gmt |
| 15:32.10 | SRabbelier | too slow :( |
| 15:32.19 | stew | well it probably is, but incorrectly |
| 15:32.34 | *** join/#debian hazel| (n=ore01@a81-14-161-236.net-htp.de) |
| 15:32.38 | Archville | Any way to make GTK1, GTK2 and QT apps look the same ? (theme) |
| 15:33.14 | *** join/#debian p4tux (n=p4tux@189.169.92.235) |
| 15:33.16 | drummer_wilson | SRabbelier: can i just turn it off on my osx86? |
| 15:33.18 | *** join/#debian a-atwood_home (n=xf009976@dialport43.west.eskimo.net) |
| 15:33.18 | krazykit | Archville: there's a gtk2 engine that uses the qt themes |
| 15:33.19 | DawnLight | what is the name of the package? |
| 15:33.38 | Archville | krazykit, what one ? the only one i've tried is QTCurve |
| 15:33.46 | Archville | But i didn't really like it |
| 15:33.51 | SRabbelier | drummer_willson I asume so, but I think you'd be best off asking how to do that in the osx chan? |
| 15:34.02 | drummer_wilson | :P |
| 15:34.31 | krazykit | Archville: gtk-qt-engine. you set gtk to use it, and set the qt theme to anything of your choice |
| 15:34.34 | SRabbelier | drummer_wilson: otherwise you could always set your OSx timezone in such a way that it displays the proper time :) |
| 15:34.57 | Archville | Uh, nice |
| 15:35.02 | *** join/#debian overrider_ (n=override@unaffiliated/overrider) |
| 15:35.11 | Archville | krazykit, ¿ How do i select the qt theme in gnome ? |
| 15:35.13 | krazykit | Archville: it's aimed at kde users, really. too bad there's no reverse of it :-/ |
| 15:35.43 | Archville | There is, QTCurve is a theme for GTK1, GTK2 and KDE. It looks the same for all apps |
| 15:35.48 | drummer_wilson | SRabbelier: ive told you.. whatever i set to be on osx, then it makes windows 2 hours late.. |
| 15:35.50 | Archville | But i find it ugly |
| 15:35.56 | Archville | Big fonts everywhere :\ |
| 15:35.57 | krazykit | Archville: uhhh, there's a qt-theme changer that i don't recall. lemme look |
| 15:35.58 | Soner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.59 | Soner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.00 | Soner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.01 | Soner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.02 | *** kick/#debian [Soner!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 15:36.10 | Archville | krazykit, thanks a lot :) |
| 15:36.12 | SRabbelier | drummer_wilson it won't when you set your -timezone- on osX |
| 15:36.20 | *** join/#debian Galga (n=HoneyPot@about/philosophy/galga) |
| 15:36.35 | *** join/#debian BoogyMan (n=floobie@dialup-4.231.161.17.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net) |
| 15:36.43 | SRabbelier | drummer_wilson It -will- change your system clock when you change your timezone with UTC off, but in that case it should work anyway :) |
| 15:36.56 | *** join/#debian KRF (i=raptor@electrostorm.net) |
| 15:37.02 | *** join/#debian Wells (n=jka@dialup-4.231.161.17.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net) |
| 15:37.27 | KRF | can i get a log of what package have been installed lately? |
| 15:37.32 | KRF | packages* |
| 15:38.29 | DawnLight | well, this is very funny... i didn't install xserver... |
| 15:38.29 | kaeles | how do you unload a module? |
| 15:38.32 | *** join/#debian Sartak (n=Sartak@209.121.12.151) |
| 15:38.39 | DawnLight | well, have a nice one |
| 15:38.41 | DawnLight | thanks |
| 15:38.51 | azeem | KRF: if you run testing/unstable, see /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 15:39.36 | *** join/#debian badcfe (n=cso@LNeuilly-152-22-86-193.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:39.38 | *** join/#debian gasbag (n=gasbag@68-189-241-59.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 15:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 746] by debhelper |
| 15:41.02 | *** join/#debian nipra (n=Nikhil@221.135.222.2) |
| 15:41.07 | *** join/#debian jim19^ (n=user@202.164.181.54) |
| 15:41.28 | krazykit | Archville: i used to use this program, too. don't recall what it is |
| 15:41.31 | badcfe | hello. i want to install a 2.6.12 kernel and apply a patch to it, then insert it as system kernel. anyone have a reference to an apropriate how-to about this? |
| 15:41.46 | DigitalOktay | Total number of release-critical bugs: 514 |
| 15:41.52 | *** join/#debian lechef (i=BIPhSEaW@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 15:41.53 | *** join/#debian wils0n (n=craig@cpe-66-91-231-45.san.res.rr.com) |
| 15:42.15 | capiira | anyone here ever tried to use the gnome.org ftp as repository? |
| 15:42.33 | krazykit | Archville: qt3-qtconfig, maybe? |
| 15:42.34 | Archville | krazykit, i've installed the kcontrol thing, i'm looking into it to see if i can change the QT theme there |
| 15:42.40 | capiira | just found a debian dir there |
| 15:42.47 | badcfe | the patch adds a driver and hooks on a api to the tcp/ip stack. |
| 15:42.47 | capiira | looks like a repository |
| 15:42.50 | *** join/#debian cbr (n=cbr@84-50-130-133-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) |
| 15:42.55 | *** join/#debian sanelson (n=sanelson@88.212.149.148) |
| 15:43.01 | krazykit | Archville: you shouldn't NEED kcontrol, i know that much |
| 15:43.01 | Archville | Mmm probably: qt3-qtconfig - The Qt3 Configuration Application |
| 15:43.20 | Archville | Well, it doesn't hurt either, i have KDE installed as well as gnome. |
| 15:44.29 | *** join/#debian jelly (n=jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 15:44.52 | Archville | krazykit, i've installed the qt3-config and it seems just what i need. ¿ Now if i change theme there will it be used also for GTK ? |
| 15:45.05 | *** join/#debian deg0nz|weq (n=drg0nzo@pD9535CB9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:45.46 | krazykit | Archville: gtk2 definitely, dunno about gtk1. can't say i use any gtk1 apps, anyway. |
| 15:46.05 | Archville | Well, i don't really care about GTK1 |
| 15:46.17 | Archville | :) |
| 15:46.17 | *** join/#debian scv (n=administ@61-56-177-238.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 15:46.29 | abrotman | DigitalOktay: that's not for etch |
| 15:46.48 | capiira | ohh its just a debian mirror on gnomes ftp :) |
| 15:47.08 | *** join/#debian nipra_ (n=Nikhil@221.135.221.239) |
| 15:47.27 | capiira | i was thinking it is a special gnome repo for distros with the newest releases |
| 15:47.32 | capiira | hehe |
| 15:49.26 | *** join/#debian D_ReaL_PuNiShEr (n=flowman4@196.3.63.252) |
| 15:50.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 753] by debhelper |
| 15:51.38 | *** join/#debian scv (n=administ@61-56-177-238.cm.ubbn.net) |
| 15:52.20 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 15:52.48 | *** join/#debian p4tux (n=p4tux@189.169.92.235) |
| 15:54.47 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (n=Marco@velirat.de) |
| 15:55.03 | *** part/#debian kaeles (n=kaeles@doc-72-47-41-233.we.ok.cebridge.net) |
| 15:55.18 | DigitalOktay | (abrotman): which version? |
| 15:55.43 | abrotman | etch |
| 15:56.04 | *** join/#debian makallius (n=makalliu@host42-33-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:56.19 | *** join/#debian Moorenkopf (n=Moorenko@p5088757c.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:56.51 | DigitalOktay | which version has the bugs? |
| 15:57.17 | DigitalOktay | have? |
| 15:58.19 | Azar | the etch'th |
| 16:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 747] by debhelper |
| 16:00.42 | *** join/#debian hello_hello_hel (n=chatzill@cpe-72-190-54-97.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 16:00.52 | hello_hello_hel | !sing spam |
| 16:00.52 | dpkg | spam, spam, spam, spam! spam, spam spam spam! spam, spam SPAM SPAM! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM! ... |
| 16:00.57 | *** join/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 16:01.15 | hello_hello_hel | hello |
| 16:01.49 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@p5495887c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:03.33 | abrotman | hello_hello_hel: do oyu need help? |
| 16:03.33 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 16:03.35 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (n=kvirc@65.183.247.11) |
| 16:04.00 | capiira | is compiling gnome more difficult than compiling xchat? :) |
| 16:04.02 | DigitalOktay | hello ³ |
| 16:04.04 | DigitalOktay | :-D |
| 16:04.14 | hello_hello_hel | not rly, but i think that uncompress command to uncompress.real was dumb |
| 16:04.17 | abrotman | capiira: magnitudes |
| 16:04.23 | abrotman | hello_hello_hel: file a bug |
| 16:04.33 | hello_hello_hel | its gzip that should have had the command changed |
| 16:04.48 | hello_hello_hel | no i dont think its a bug, its a bad feture :P |
| 16:04.49 | *** join/#debian leninmhs (n=leninmhs@200.90.29.50) |
| 16:04.58 | abrotman | file a wishlist bug |
| 16:05.03 | capiira | :) |
| 16:05.16 | hello_hello_hel | old scripts useing uncompress wont be compatible |
| 16:05.25 | *** join/#debian bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) |
| 16:05.26 | hello_hello_hel | hmm i guess it might really be a bug |
| 16:05.29 | abrotman | have you thought about filing a bug? |
| 16:05.44 | hello_hello_hel | nopers |
| 16:05.52 | abrotman | !reportbug |
| 16:05.52 | dpkg | hmm... reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian BTS. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 16:05.55 | Azar | help Debian: file bugs please |
| 16:06.16 | hello_hello_hel | zcat should be moved to gzcat maby, i dun know |
| 16:06.52 | hello_hello_hel | anyways if you write scripts make sure they use the main program with options, not an alias |
| 16:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 16:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 16:07.08 | *** join/#debian Piet (i=pietor@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xC5C71DCE) |
| 16:07.29 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 16:07.32 | Azar | seven more conscious debian helpers have filed bugs yesterday |
| 16:07.56 | hello_hello_hel | i.e. dont put 'gunzip filename.gz' instead of 'gzip -d filename.gz' |
| 16:08.45 | *** part/#debian ramHero (n=user@194.pool62-37-184.static.orange.es) |
| 16:08.46 | hello_hello_hel | i was peaking through the debian policy cuz i was bored lol |
| 16:08.59 | abrotman | then just freaking do it |
| 16:09.07 | abrotman | gzip -d still works |
| 16:10.10 | hello_hello_hel | i want to find a blank computer without anything installed so i can hack linux into it without wasteing heaps on winbloze vispa, and get a 1337 OS up and running faster |
| 16:10.11 | bzed | Azar: I've filed a bug on tuesday |
| 16:10.25 | Azar | !beer bzed |
| 16:10.25 | bzed | !nickometer hello_hello_hel |
| 16:10.26 | dpkg | 'hello_hello_hel' is 26.000% lame, bzed |
| 16:10.37 | bzed | thanks Azar :D |
| 16:10.39 | *** join/#debian sepski (n=sep@217.17.211.51) |
| 16:10.41 | dkr | hello_hello_hel: I don't think "hack" means what you think it means. ;) |
| 16:10.42 | abrotman | hello_hello_hel: do you have a debian related question? |
| 16:11.00 | hello_hello_hel | no its just the compress to compress.real was on my mind |
| 16:11.15 | hello_hello_hel | i mean uncompress to uncompress.real |
| 16:11.21 | hello_hello_hel | >.< |
| 16:11.29 | DigitalOktay | free beer |
| 16:11.51 | bzed | !confuse hello_hello_hel |
| 16:11.51 | dpkg | Yes, those is their hamster yesterday, hello_hello_hel? wellies of the democracy of tibet with extra herring |
| 16:12.04 | hello_hello_hel | roflcakes XD |
| 16:12.23 | hello_hello_hel | btw i made roflcakes up myself lol |
| 16:13.21 | hello_hello_hel | !nickometer dpkg |
| 16:13.22 | dpkg | 'dpkg' is 0.000% lame, hello_hello_hel |
| 16:13.26 | hello_hello_hel | lol |
| 16:13.28 | wols | hello_hello_hel: just buy parts and build your own, or go to a local PC shop |
| 16:14.02 | *** join/#debian jcaceres (n=jcaceres@64.76.110.15) |
| 16:14.10 | DigitalOktay | dpkg ? |
| 16:14.16 | hello_hello_hel | arg why cant they just not install software on some then use the spares for when people special order or somthingt |
| 16:14.34 | *** join/#debian ignotus (n=rogue@dsl85-238-89-32.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 16:14.40 | abrotman | gimme a "T" |
| 16:14.50 | hello_hello_hel | T |
| 16:14.52 | *** join/#debian SRabbelier (n=sverre@82-171-166-90.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 16:14.56 | SRabbelier | !info docker |
| 16:15.01 | dpkg | docker: (System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.4-3 (sid), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 84 kB |
| 16:15.01 | ignotus | hey how can i scan with xsane as non-root? |
| 16:15.17 | jcaceres | hello does any of you has used openmcu, and can tell me some about it's experience |
| 16:15.29 | *** join/#debian Ramattack (n=egoitz@eu83-213-30-253.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 16:15.31 | Ramattack | hi mates |
| 16:15.54 | Ramattack | my agp size is 128 MB |
| 16:16.03 | Ramattack | how could I set it if only takes me 64 mb? |
| 16:16.13 | wols | BIOS |
| 16:16.14 | hello_hello_hel | bzed , do you want the free viagra style or slashdot troll style :P |
| 16:16.18 | jcaceres | i want to know if openmcu also worksn for video |
| 16:16.22 | DigitalOktay | how can i install Gnome 2.18 on my Debian |
| 16:16.24 | DigitalOktay | ? |
| 16:16.30 | Ramattack | wols thats for me? |
| 16:16.33 | *** join/#debian skandaleras (n=luiz@gsyc049.dat.escet.urjc.es) |
| 16:16.36 | wols | Ramattack: yes |
| 16:16.41 | Ramattack | in bios is set |
| 16:16.42 | wols | DigitalOktay: not packaged yet |
| 16:16.57 | Ramattack | is there any conf file in wich to be able to set? |
| 16:16.58 | wols | Ramattack: where or what uses 128MB then? |
| 16:17.13 | DigitalOktay | hmm thx wols |
| 16:17.16 | h3sp4wn | DigitalOktay: use the build script |
| 16:17.25 | DigitalOktay | thx |
| 16:17.29 | Ramattack | my ati mobility radeon of 64 mb is set on bios to use 128 mb |
| 16:17.37 | DigitalOktay | the gnome 2.18 released today |
| 16:17.39 | Ramattack | how could I do for debian to detect it? |
| 16:17.49 | wols | !tell Ramattack about drxx |
| 16:18.19 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 16:18.28 | wols | Ramattack: and it's not "agp size" but video RAM size |
| 16:18.32 | Ramattack | but wols when you type dmesg it appears |
| 16:18.36 | wols | there is also AGP aperture size |
| 16:18.41 | Ramattack | video ram size is set in xorg.conf |
| 16:18.47 | *** join/#debian mirco (n=mirco@88.128.21.67) |
| 16:19.01 | wols | WHAT appears |
| 16:19.07 | *** part/#debian ignotus (n=rogue@dsl85-238-89-32.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 16:19.16 | *** join/#debian Owdgit (n=ron@88-110-225-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 16:19.21 | DigitalOktay | Forseight Linux uses the new gnome release ------>http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04112<---------- |
| 16:19.22 | wols | and the proper debian way to configure your xorg.conf is what? you gessed it: drxx! |
| 16:19.35 | wols | DigitalOktay: then install foresight linux? |
| 16:19.41 | DigitalOktay | hehe no |
| 16:19.44 | DigitalOktay | :-D |
| 16:19.52 | wols | then why are you blabbering about it then? |
| 16:19.58 | wols | epecially in #debian? |
| 16:19.59 | Supaplex | DigitalOktay: uhm. woopie @$*%@(% do? |
| 16:20.07 | Ramattack | wols in dmesg you say agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xc4000000 |
| 16:20.47 | wols | Ramattack: make up your mind what you mean. AGP aperture or video RAM size |
| 16:20.47 | wols | why do you care about aperture in the first place? |
| 16:20.47 | Ramattack | video ram size is set in xorg.conf |
| 16:21.25 | Ramattack | but agp aperture size although I don't have set in xorg.conf is told by dmesg to be 64 mb |
| 16:21.26 | *** join/#debian Zenox (n=zenox@27.69.227.87.static.osk.siw.siwnet.net) |
| 16:21.28 | *** join/#debian Smooph (n=Smooph@p54A76CCF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:21.37 | Ramattack | would it be first that the kernel to detect 128 mb? |
| 16:22.09 | Ramattack | wols I return .... |
| 16:22.11 | Ramattack | thanks mate |
| 16:22.16 | Ramattack | customers waiting |
| 16:22.19 | Ramattack | thanks a lot |
| 16:22.19 | Ramattack | bye |
| 16:22.24 | bzed | O_o |
| 16:22.48 | *** join/#debian obstfliege_ (n=obstflie@xdsl-87-79-193-173.netcologne.de) |
| 16:24.26 | *** join/#debian defcon8 (n=justin@unaffiliated/defcon8) |
| 16:25.27 | *** join/#debian josh415 (n=nobody@c-71-202-20-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:25.48 | *** join/#debian DeliPenguen (n=tugrul@ns1.tugrul.org) |
| 16:25.58 | *** part/#debian KRF (i=raptor@electrostorm.net) |
| 16:27.52 | *** join/#debian wad (n=wad@216.49.181.128) |
| 16:29.04 | *** join/#debian abaddon (n=nox@80.97.178.47) |
| 16:29.23 | *** join/#debian ribasushi (n=rabbit@dslb-088-076-059-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:29.37 | ribasushi | how can I browse the experimental source repository? |
| 16:29.59 | torrr | I have installed tomcat5.5-admin package but I cant access the admin it say 'message Servlet admin.login_jsp is currently unavailable'. WsId? |
| 16:30.01 | *** join/#debian Petrov (i=Petrov@216.98-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 16:30.12 | ribasushi | I want to see if a specific version of a library is available and make a deb out of it, instead of compiling and installing it locally |
| 16:30.17 | abaddon | hi, i need a basic firewall package that works with iptables-save/restore, that provides a script to restore on startup and save on shutdown, any packages like that available on the repo? |
| 16:30.30 | DeliPenguen | hello |
| 16:32.49 | bzed | ribasushi: use pt-show-versions, or http://packages.debian.org |
| 16:32.53 | bzed | +a |
| 16:34.00 | *** join/#debian josh415 (n=nobody@c-71-202-20-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:34.52 | *** join/#debian josh415 (n=nobody@c-71-202-20-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:35.18 | ribasushi | bzed: looked there already... I guess it just isn't available |
| 16:35.43 | ribasushi | bzed: can you confirm if it is not a problem? |
| 16:35.49 | ribasushi | bzed: I am looking for rabbit@Thesaurus:~$ |
| 16:35.53 | *** join/#debian ShredZ (n=stefan@d54C27EBA.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:36.08 | ribasushi | bzed: whops, I am looking for libsdl-mixer1.2-dev vers 1.2.7 |
| 16:36.39 | *** join/#debian Olando (n=chatzill@d83-176-110-186.cust.tele2.it) |
| 16:36.56 | *** part/#debian Olando (n=chatzill@d83-176-110-186.cust.tele2.it) |
| 16:37.08 | *** join/#debian baroni (n=baroni@c9348f0b.virtua.com.br) |
| 16:37.37 | *** join/#debian darkstego (n=bubshait@212.76.82.11) |
| 16:38.45 | darkstego | hi all, I have a debian weekly build installer that keeps freezing while updating apt. Any suggerstions? |
| 16:39.02 | *** join/#debian DeCaos (n=Ruben@216.244.187.18) |
| 16:39.27 | bzed | ribasushi: seems 1.2.7 is not packaged yet |
| 16:39.38 | azeem | darkstego: do you need to set a proxy? |
| 16:39.51 | *** join/#debian micha3l (n=micha3l@ppp-82-135-9-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 16:39.56 | bzed | darkstego: get a recent one :) |
| 16:40.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 741] by debhelper |
| 16:40.22 | darkstego | bzed: mine is dated march-5 |
| 16:41.00 | darkstego | proxy setting seems fine, it is freezing at 60% |
| 16:41.08 | darkstego | stuck scanning mirror |
| 16:41.09 | bzed | darkstego: hmm, get yourself a console then (by pressing alt+f2) and use ps to find out if apt is hanging around somewhere |
| 16:41.11 | *** join/#debian D_ReaL_PuNiShEr (n=flowman4@196.3.63.252) |
| 16:41.26 | bzed | darkstego: that issues should be fixed though O_o |
| 16:42.04 | darkstego | I know there was an issue in the feb build |
| 16:42.11 | darkstego | but I assume it was fixed |
| 16:42.17 | *** join/#debian PupenoR (n=pupeno@200.123.183.91) |
| 16:42.32 | bzed | i thought so, too |
| 16:42.39 | ribasushi | bzed: thanks |
| 16:42.48 | azeem | darkstego: please elaborate on "freeze" first |
| 16:43.00 | azeem | like, can you switch to a console with alt+f2 etc. |
| 16:43.16 | bzed | azeem: it's a know issue, apt is complaining about wrng keys |
| 16:43.27 | darkstego | freeze as in no response for the last 3 hours |
| 16:43.32 | darkstego | will try console now |
| 16:43.37 | Azar | wow packages that have bugs not reported will be removed from Etch!!! |
| 16:43.52 | scv | lol |
| 16:43.57 | Azar | err not reported/not fixed |
| 16:44.03 | *** part/#debian SRabbelier (n=sverre@82-171-166-90.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 16:44.15 | azeem | Azar: that's been the case since the 90s |
| 16:44.16 | darkstego | omg, so no linux kernel? |
| 16:44.26 | Azar | azeem: :) bad wording |
| 16:44.36 | Azar | darkstego: hahaha |
| 16:45.25 | *** join/#debian limpio (n=luigi@201.226.61.53) |
| 16:45.33 | *** join/#debian Ramattack (n=egoitz@eu83-213-30-253.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 16:45.34 | bzed | darkstego: switch to the console, use ps to find the apt process and kill it |
| 16:46.02 | Ramattack | is there anyway to have installed on the same machine two packages of squid each of one using different binaries... and all? |
| 16:46.26 | defcon8 | and all? |
| 16:46.30 | defcon8 | all of what? |
| 16:46.55 | Ramattack | two different squid installations on the same machine with debian packages |
| 16:47.01 | darkstego | Ramattack: you can have one compile to a different location, but not using apt |
| 16:47.05 | *** part/#debian overrider_ (n=override@unaffiliated/overrider) |
| 16:47.07 | bzed | there was a blob about the d-i problems in dpkg ... but I can;t find it :| |
| 16:47.46 | *** part/#debian Flawless (n=chrivers@zeus.sikkerhed.org) |
| 16:47.49 | Azar | "At this point, packages with RC bugs open in testing for more than 10 days are subject to removal by the release team..." |
| 16:47.58 | Ramattack | and is anyway of downloading debian squid source with debian configure and all way through compilation of squid and later changing the default dir createthe debian package? |
| 16:48.00 | *** join/#debian nescius (n=nescius@furtif.advertures.cz) |
| 16:48.27 | darkstego | not sure. I don't comile alot |
| 16:48.29 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 16:49.10 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (n=Count_fu@83-71-70-17.b-ras1.prp.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 16:49.26 | nescius | hi, i need to set a metric for one of my network adapters in favor of the other one, is there a way how to do that thru ifconfig or do you know how to set it with ip? |
| 16:49.40 | bzed | nescius: man ip |
| 16:49.42 | *** join/#debian JensBru (n=JensBru@ppp218-1.aknet.it) |
| 16:49.53 | *** join/#debian [abhishek] (n=abhishek@59.184.152.30) |
| 16:50.13 | darkstego | why doesn't apt-get timeout during the debian installer |
| 16:50.53 | nescius | bzed, http://rafb.net/p/x0ADiG60.html |
| 16:51.14 | *** join/#debian aadil (i=aadil@ADSL-TPLUS-105-42.telecomplus.net) |
| 16:51.31 | bzed | nescius: For the complete command reference please look at the following document: /usr/share/doc/iproute-2.4.7/ip-cref.ps |
| 16:52.20 | nescius | bzed, is it same as this one? http://helpdesk.bera.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/~rusheron/unix/netz/ip-cref.ps |
| 16:52.34 | *** join/#debian ehc (n=evan@163.41.145.225) |
| 16:53.16 | h3sp4wn | Ramattack: change the dirs in debian/rules |
| 16:53.36 | bzed | nescius: not sure, but that one is ok. page 21ff |
| 16:53.42 | [abhishek] | why `init' restarts when one tries to kill it? |
| 16:54.29 | bzed | soudns like you wanna make your system unuseable |
| 16:56.04 | *** join/#debian c1ru (n=pacogp@81.202.46.61.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:56.15 | *** join/#debian Plush (n=plush@host86-29-static.30-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:57.15 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (n=Tiffon@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 16:59.03 | *** join/#debian nf1 (n=nf1@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-81.megalan.bg) |
| 16:59.27 | Ramattack | h3sp4wn but where is that file? |
| 16:59.56 | *** join/#debian Piet_ (i=pietor@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xC5C71DCE) |
| 17:00.01 | *** join/#debian S2AnGeL (n=S2AnGeL@CPE000f66bd2bf3-CM000039529869.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:00.10 | h3sp4wn | Ramattack: squid-2.6.5/debian/rules (for etch after apt-get source) |
| 17:00.53 | *** join/#debian slav0nic (n=sl@bsd.xss.ru) |
| 17:00.53 | h3sp4wn | Ramattack: You might have to mess around a bit but its just a Makefile |
| 17:01.22 | aadil | deep fried |
| 17:01.36 | *** join/#debian loot (n=loot@ip-216-117-223-79.static.keyway.net) |
| 17:02.01 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (n=inimesek@217-159-183-127-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 17:02.02 | *** join/#debian Scurz_ (n=sfantar@164.240.146.195.static.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr) |
| 17:02.08 | *** join/#debian [abhishek]_ (n=abhishek@59.184.161.152) |
| 17:02.30 | *** part/#debian loot (n=loot@ip-216-117-223-79.static.keyway.net) |
| 17:02.39 | *** join/#debian blindvt (n=bf@M975P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 17:03.27 | torrr | I have installed tomcat5.5-admin package but I cant access the admin it say 'message Servlet admin.login_jsp is currently unavailable'. WsId? |
| 17:04.41 | *** join/#debian cookoo (n=user@c-68-61-112-197.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:05.09 | cookoo | how do i reset log files |
| 17:05.27 | abrotman | reset ? you mean empty ? |
| 17:05.47 | cookoo | yes empty |
| 17:06.02 | cookoo | 5000 lines of /var messages |
| 17:06.31 | torrr | I found in the log: |
| 17:06.34 | aadil | hmm, yummy |
| 17:06.38 | torrr | SEVERE: Unable to initialize Struts ActionServlet due to an unexpected exception or error thrown, so marking the servlet as unavailable. Most likely, this is due to an incorrect or missing library dependency. |
| 17:06.39 | aadil | all i need is a cold beer |
| 17:06.57 | aadil | *blurps* |
| 17:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 17:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 17:07.00 | aadil | :) |
| 17:07.02 | *** join/#debian peterrus (n=peterrus@cable-193-167.zeelandnet.nl) |
| 17:07.04 | scv | ;) |
| 17:07.13 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 17:07.23 | krazykit | aadil: drinking + linux = ending up rm'ing something important |
| 17:07.38 | Tenkawa | what a day |
| 17:07.42 | aadil | krazykit, for u maybe grashoppa |
| 17:07.44 | aadil | :p |
| 17:07.55 | krazykit | i've never done that. |
| 17:08.01 | aadil | u should |
| 17:08.06 | krazykit | i've configured a kernel after a few drinks once |
| 17:08.08 | abrotman | !tell aadil about u |
| 17:08.14 | scv | openbsd guys need people donate some free beers |
| 17:08.16 | *** part/#debian Ago__ (n=Ago@bastart.eu.org) |
| 17:08.27 | *** join/#debian Ago__ (n=Ago@bastart.eu.org) |
| 17:08.30 | aadil | abrotman, thank u |
| 17:08.32 | aadil | :) |
| 17:08.59 | *** join/#debian Stefan__ (n=Stefan@27.69.227.87.static.osk.siw.siwnet.net) |
| 17:09.05 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (n=david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 17:09.06 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 17:09.17 | aadil | u ppl telling me that am surrounded by underage teens with ipods and kernels who cant drink? |
| 17:09.19 | aadil | Oo |
| 17:09.30 | Tenkawa | aadil: nope.. I just never have |
| 17:09.38 | Tenkawa | very old |
| 17:09.40 | aadil | Tenkawa, how cometh? |
| 17:09.48 | aadil | and how old? |
| 17:09.50 | Tenkawa | aadil: medical reasons mostly |
| 17:09.52 | *** join/#debian bwlang_ (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) |
| 17:09.53 | Tenkawa | mid 30's |
| 17:09.54 | krazykit | aadil: kernels can't drink anyway. |
| 17:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 753] by debhelper |
| 17:10.09 | Vasistha | is there any compelling reason for me to run ntp, rather than the slimmer ntpdate, on my personal laptop which I restart every day? |
| 17:10.09 | *** join/#debian Zenox (n=Zenox@27.69.227.87.static.osk.siw.siwnet.net) |
| 17:10.13 | krazykit | unless you insert the "guzzle" module |
| 17:10.18 | aadil | Tenkawa, didnt know there was such a medical reason which prevents u from drinking |
| 17:10.24 | aadil | Tenkawa, can u drink root beer? |
| 17:10.25 | aadil | :) |
| 17:10.29 | Tenkawa | aadil: its the meds I have to take |
| 17:10.36 | Tenkawa | they interact with alcohol |
| 17:10.38 | krazykit | Vasistha: as long as ntpdate is doing what you want, there's really no reason to switch |
| 17:10.58 | aadil | krazykit, kernel doesnt need to get drunk to crash |
| 17:10.59 | aadil | imho |
| 17:11.00 | aadil | :p |
| 17:11.02 | *** join/#debian blackhat (n=099@unaffiliated/blackhat) |
| 17:11.07 | blackhat | hi |
| 17:11.07 | Tenkawa | aadil: I can confirm that |
| 17:11.12 | Tenkawa | I've crashed it plenty |
| 17:11.13 | krazykit | aadil: naw, ati drivers will do that nicely |
| 17:11.13 | Tenkawa | rofl |
| 17:11.14 | aadil | :) |
| 17:11.16 | Tenkawa | ROFL |
| 17:11.27 | blackhat | how can i install a .deb file? |
| 17:11.34 | krazykit | blackhat: dpkg -i .de |
| 17:11.35 | krazykit | b |
| 17:11.42 | Vasistha | krazykit: well, I have both installed, and am in the process of going through my packages and removing unnecessary things. So, while I've been satisfied with it thus far -- I'm not sure *which* has been performing my desired functions ;-) |
| 17:11.48 | blackhat | krazykit ley me try :) |
| 17:11.50 | *** join/#debian Bulldog (n=Bulldog@011.254.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 17:11.54 | *** join/#debian drummer_wilson (n=romanosG@88.218.12.109) |
| 17:12.01 | aadil | :) |
| 17:12.27 | *** join/#debian Seeraa (n=dennis@195.158.181.64) |
| 17:12.29 | krazykit | Vasistha: remove ntp and see if it still works? worst case you just install it again |
| 17:12.37 | krazykit | or figure out ntpdate |
| 17:12.41 | Vasistha | krazykit: good point :-) |
| 17:12.48 | blackhat | aadil, do u run away from netbsd? :P |
| 17:13.01 | aadil | blackhat, nah - in still in teh channel |
| 17:13.02 | aadil | :) |
| 17:13.03 | Tenkawa | aadil: whats it do ? |
| 17:13.07 | blackhat | :P |
| 17:13.19 | aadil | Tenkawa, it hardens ur linux system |
| 17:13.21 | aadil | so to speak |
| 17:13.23 | *** join/#debian cga (n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:13.24 | drummer_wilson | hi! i had a problem with my windows partition and i had to reinstall windows.. now the worst thing happened.. it overwritten mbr and grub is gone, how can i bring it back? |
| 17:13.26 | Tenkawa | no. i mean whats it do wrong |
| 17:13.33 | aadil | make it stiff and *secure* |
| 17:13.44 | Tenkawa | I know what bastille linux itself is |
| 17:13.56 | aadil | blackhat, cant see u in #netbsd though |
| 17:13.57 | aadil | :p |
| 17:13.57 | Tenkawa | what kinda issues you having in unstable? |
| 17:14.22 | *** join/#debian liri (n=liran@212.199.177.205.static.012.net.il) |
| 17:14.25 | Tenkawa | holy crap |
| 17:14.31 | aadil | well, it just doesnt work - i.e it misconfigures the firewall |
| 17:14.32 | Tenkawa | my vps is almost out of space |
| 17:14.33 | Tenkawa | eek |
| 17:14.35 | Tenkawa | ahh |
| 17:14.37 | drummer_wilson | hi! i had a problem with my windows partition and i had to reinstall windows.. now the worst thing happened.. it overwritten mbr and grub is gone, how can i bring it back? |
| 17:14.39 | *** join/#debian NoRFIDzz (n=ver@p549CA684.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:14.44 | blackhat | aadil, im not there, i use to .. :) |
| 17:14.55 | krazykit | drummer_wilson: don't double question like that. and to answer it: |
| 17:15.10 | Tenkawa | dayam.. I gotta clean up /var/cache/apt more often |
| 17:15.12 | Tenkawa | haahaa |
| 17:15.23 | krazykit | drummer_wilson: boot from a liveCD, bind mount /dev and /proc, and rerun grub-install |
| 17:15.27 | aadil | but am not complaining, it's not called unstable for nothing |
| 17:15.28 | aadil | :) |
| 17:15.37 | krazykit | er, chroot before grub-install |
| 17:15.41 | Tenkawa | aadil: yep.. I hear ya.. my boxes live mostly on unstable |
| 17:16.26 | *** join/#debian [abhishek]__ (n=abhishek@59.184.167.228) |
| 17:17.01 | *** join/#debian yeager (n=yeager@213.132.115.138) |
| 17:17.04 | Tenkawa | there we go.. vps all cleaned up |
| 17:17.38 | *** join/#debian [abhishek] (n=abhishek@59.184.167.228) |
| 17:17.38 | krazykit | drummer_wilson: or use this http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ |
| 17:19.19 | *** join/#debian wintix (n=wintix@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 17:19.29 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 17:20.13 | Tenkawa | wow it got quiet in here |
| 17:20.28 | Tenkawa | haahaa |
| 17:20.48 | *** join/#debian h3xis (n=h3xis@AFC-11-186.rh.ncsu.edu) |
| 17:20.50 | rahul | !penixstrike Tenkawa |
| 17:20.50 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Tenkawa to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 17:22.45 | aadil | penix is the plural of penis right? |
| 17:22.51 | aadil | *blurps* |
| 17:22.56 | Azar | yep everyone is reading slashdot today |
| 17:23.09 | aadil | *floating beer air bubbles* |
| 17:23.09 | aadil | :) |
| 17:23.21 | *** join/#debian Frizz0 (n=seant@212.248.186.144) |
| 17:23.24 | Ronin | beer? someone say beer? |
| 17:23.25 | *** join/#debian LOLNADA (n=jduran@190.39.241.115) |
| 17:23.28 | Azar | no is penixes |
| 17:23.32 | *** join/#debian BackwardsDown (n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl) |
| 17:23.48 | wintix | hi there. i am running debian sarge amd64. after a failed dist-upgrade, i am unable to write to certain areas of the filesystem (ext3) like /usr/sbin and other important directories. the same problem exists when i boot an rescue system over network and try to write to those areas of the filesystem. fsck comes up clean, even with check forced. any ideas how to get this going again withour reinstallation? |
| 17:23.56 | *** join/#debian chromosome (n=dan@87.120.60.44) |
| 17:24.08 | vulture | I'd have thought "penices" (as with "matrices") |
| 17:24.12 | LOLNADA | hey ppl |
| 17:24.17 | wintix | *without |
| 17:24.27 | azeem | wintix: are they on different partitions? |
| 17:24.27 | LOLNADA | im trying to configure my xorg.conf to run Beryl |
| 17:24.32 | LOLNADA | but it crashes |
| 17:24.34 | LOLNADA | Checking for non power of two texture support : failed |
| 17:24.38 | *** join/#debian Gee (n=rootgauf@p5495552F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:24.40 | LOLNADA | thats the message |
| 17:24.57 | LOLNADA | i got an ATI Radeon Card installed correctly |
| 17:25.00 | LOLNADA | fglrx |
| 17:25.07 | LOLNADA | fglrinfo says im ok |
| 17:25.11 | wintix | azeem: nope. sda1 is the boot partition and on sda2 is the rest. the boot partition seems find but the rest is somewhat weird. |
| 17:25.23 | LOLNADA | what could it be? |
| 17:25.27 | *** join/#debian nyty (n=nyty@r3t43.net.upc.cz) |
| 17:27.12 | *** join/#debian x-TM (n=tm@p5085E75A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:28.06 | xand | LOLNADA: did you try a beryl channel? as I don't think it's in debian |
| 17:28.45 | LOLNADA | im on Debian, im already at #beryl thanks! |
| 17:30.04 | *** join/#debian hardlined (n=hardline@shaky.activmedia.com) |
| 17:30.25 | LOLNADA | nobody answers me |
| 17:30.35 | Vasistha | aptitude question: is it possible to filter my view so that I don't see packages that are part of the base system? I'm trying to slim down my system, and going through is slower when I have to sift through all the base stuff :P |
| 17:30.59 | DeCaos | can i have a raid 5 with debian by software but all partition? |
| 17:33.41 | *** join/#debian Nighteye (n=n8oog@68.143.56.190.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 17:33.41 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 17:33.42 | *** part/#debian LOLNADA (n=jduran@190.39.241.115) |
| 17:33.52 | *** join/#debian Sypher (n=Sypher@host245-50-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:34.03 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=madclick@216.123.169.254) |
| 17:35.41 | stew | Vasistha: something like aptitude search \!\~prequired~i |
| 17:35.57 | stew | err the second \ is probably not necessary |
| 17:36.14 | Vasistha | stew: wow, alright, I'll just try that very string and see what it does... |
| 17:36.28 | stew | Vasistha: in the frontend you'd need neither \ |
| 17:37.10 | *** join/#debian RoadKillyt (n=unknown@c-68-54-149-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 17:37.19 | *** join/#debian xored (n=6931maYe@i3ED6D423.versanet.de) |
| 17:37.28 | stew | Vasistha: you might want to also remove Priority: standard |
| 17:37.51 | *** join/#debian anapivirtua (n=anapivir@AMarseille-153-1-69-187.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:38.05 | Vasistha | stew: would that be done by !~Priority: standard~ or am I completely misinterpreting this search string? |
| 17:38.20 | anapivirtua | Hi all |
| 17:38.52 | *** join/#debian Seveass (n=usr@user-0cdfjj1.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 17:39.04 | Seveass | hi how to install debian for ubuntu plz? |
| 17:39.06 | stew | Vasistha: ~p means priority, so ~pstandard is priority standaard, and !~pstandard is "not priority: standard" |
| 17:39.21 | stew | Seveass: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 17:39.29 | *** join/#debian Kage` (n=Kage@pool-151-205-48-31.clrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:39.32 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.145) |
| 17:39.34 | Seveass | stew, #ubuntu no work for me this chan work good |
| 17:39.45 | stew | Seveass: we don't support ubuntu here |
| 17:39.51 | Azar | Vasistha: you can get some ideas from /usr/share/aptitude/README |
| 17:39.57 | Seveass | i ask for debian for ubuntu plz |
| 17:40.05 | Supaplex | Seveass: check debian.org for debian isos |
| 17:40.09 | Supaplex | !tell Seveass -about repeat |
| 17:40.28 | Seveass | isos? |
| 17:40.40 | Seveass | no understnd maybe u speak turkish? |
| 17:40.45 | Seveass | osla ma katu? |
| 17:40.52 | Supaplex | !tk |
| 17:40.52 | dpkg | i guess tk is the TKinter GUI toolkit |
| 17:40.53 | stew | Seveass: i don't know what "debian for ubuntu" is, but we don't help with "... for ubuntu" here, try #ubuntu |
| 17:40.56 | Supaplex | !tu |
| 17:41.01 | fluxdude | is there some clientside setting that I can use to try to log in to remote ssh server using only ssh keys, and if that fails to not prompt for a password? |
| 17:41.03 | Azar | Seveass: ubuntu is not same as debian, has different packages and ways of working |
| 17:41.22 | Supaplex | Seveass: iso files, for burning to cd. |
| 17:41.27 | Seveass | oh sorry i think before that debian is program for ubuntu because i see it before too much in ubuntu |
| 17:41.31 | Seveass | Supaplex, thanks |
| 17:41.37 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) |
| 17:41.54 | *** join/#debian misnix (n=misnix@corona.xs4all.nl) |
| 17:42.01 | Vasistha | Azar: thanks, I found the "Search Patterns" section. Maybe it'll tell me in here, but does "Limit Display" support all the same features as "Search"? |
| 17:42.07 | DeCaos | debian support raid 5 for all partition? |
| 17:42.08 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (n=suguru@ackyto003171.adsl.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) |
| 17:42.11 | stew | Seveass: no, debian is a completely separate os which is similar to ubuntu, not something you would add to ubuntu |
| 17:42.24 | beoba | how may i go about telling linux that i want keycode 0x7d (cmd button on mac) to also be considered as a ctrl keypress? |
| 17:42.25 | stew | DeCaos: what do you mean by "for all partition"? |
| 17:42.45 | stew | beoba: have a look at xkeycaps and xmodmap |
| 17:43.07 | DeCaos | stew: i create a raid 5 and i want create /boot /swap and / |
| 17:43.07 | Supaplex | DeCaos: raid is a block device. you'll have to partition it, or stack lvm on it. |
| 17:43.38 | *** join/#debian JordiGH (n=jordi@189.166.59.44) |
| 17:43.38 | DeCaos | but i have a error formated / |
| 17:43.52 | stew | DeCaos: i don't think you'll be able to put /boot on software raid 5 |
| 17:44.03 | JordiGH | Is there a way to just get the /usr/share/doc/ files of some package? I know you can read the Changelog from aptitude, but is it possible to get anything else? |
| 17:44.19 | *** join/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:44.20 | beoba | stew: will do |
| 17:44.22 | stew | JordiGH: you can get copyright from packages.debian.org |
| 17:44.45 | scv | beoba: are you in the CLI mode? |
| 17:44.52 | DeCaos | stew: i don't know :$ |
| 17:44.55 | *** join/#debian neozerosv (n=neozero@168.243.7.158) |
| 17:45.00 | *** join/#debian ThaLia[go`away] (i=AnarSi@62.162.14.119) |
| 17:45.14 | JordiGH | stew: Anything else? |
| 17:45.16 | DeCaos | sted: boot no is necesary in raid? |
| 17:45.36 | stew | JordiGH: not that I know of |
| 17:46.14 | JordiGH | stew: Wait, I just remembered, can't you get any file from packages.debian.org, or just a listing of what file is there? |
| 17:46.20 | stew | DeCaos: i don't think it is possible to have /boot in raid5. maybe with a custom kenrel and lilo, but i'm not sure. certainly not with grub and an initrd kernel. |
| 17:46.30 | stew | JordiGH: a listing afaik |
| 17:46.51 | stew | JordiGH: you can, of course, download a package and extract it into /tmp or something |
| 17:46.55 | DeCaos | stew: thanks i will try |
| 17:46.56 | sepski | DeCaos, put your /boot on a raid1 or a regular partition |
| 17:47.19 | JordiGH | stew: Of course. But for large packages, I wish I could just get the docs before I decide on getting the whole package or not. Shop before you buy, y'know. ;-) |
| 17:47.19 | *** join/#debian liran_ (n=Tals@212.199.177.205.static.012.net.il) |
| 17:47.23 | *** join/#debian xnfcre (n=kasper@evil.hack3rs.org) |
| 17:47.45 | *** join/#debian phreqmod (i=phreqmod@sdf-eu.ORG) |
| 17:47.50 | DeCaos | sepski: ok yes i did |
| 17:47.55 | phreqmod | Greetings gents |
| 17:47.55 | stew | JordiGH: you could get the README.Debian out of the .diff.gz |
| 17:48.19 | *** join/#debian Sativouf (n=Sativouf@62.193.34.247) |
| 17:48.25 | JordiGH | phreqmod: How are you gentlemen. |
| 17:48.42 | liran_ | I want to take some space out of my ntfs partition and add it to my existing ext3 (dualboot system) |
| 17:48.54 | liran_ | is gparted capable of that? |
| 17:49.06 | JordiGH | liran_: You'll need some kind of livecd to do it, and yes, I usually do that with gparted. |
| 17:49.24 | phreqmod | JordiGH, rather well, thanks for asking |
| 17:49.26 | DeCaos | sepski: sorry And swap in raid 0 or raid 1 ? |
| 17:49.40 | phreqmod | (although your question reminds me of a certain video game intro :) ) |
| 17:49.40 | liran_ | JordiGH: I have a livecd here but I doubt it comes equipped with gparted. |
| 17:49.50 | stew | aren't there online ext3 resizing utilities working these days? |
| 17:50.05 | phreqmod | stew, I saw something on Debian Planet about that |
| 17:50.07 | phreqmod | Yesterday |
| 17:50.13 | JordiGH | liran_: Might need some juggling about, though. You can't really move partitions; you have to copy partitions around, so you have to make sure that make enough space to also create some scratch space to copy stuff around. |
| 17:50.21 | liran_ | JordiGH: so I can't do it from within an installed linux or windows itself? |
| 17:50.27 | phreqmod | Didn't actually read it, but it was something about ext3. And resizing, and stuff |
| 17:50.36 | JordiGH | liran_: apt-based livecd's can easily install gparted if they don't come with it. |
| 17:50.58 | liran_ | JordiGH: Alright. And you are saying that gparted can definitely do the job. |
| 17:50.59 | stew | liran_: i believe you can |
| 17:51.02 | phreqmod | stew, http://www.itp.tuwien.ac.at/~mattems/blog/2007/03/14#online_resize_ext3 < I think it's the same as the DP comment |
| 17:51.07 | stew | liran_: ^^^ |
| 17:51.09 | JordiGH | liran_: Not really, since any sensible OS (and Windows too) will refuse to mess around with mounted partitions, and you can't run the OS without mounting its partition. |
| 17:51.27 | Maerz | how is the eclipse binary named ? |
| 17:51.38 | liran_ | ok I'll do some reading on that link and then failover to the proposed idea by Jordi |
| 17:51.46 | liran_ | err, only that link isn't working :P |
| 17:51.53 | Pinchiukas | JordiGH: windows CAN run scandisk from windows :) |
| 17:52.16 | JordiGH | Pinchiukas: Can Windows create a partition so messed up it can't resize it itself? |
| 17:52.27 | liran_ | oh my |
| 17:52.39 | liran_ | I'm gonna be cursed for starting a windows chat on #debian hehe |
| 17:52.54 | Pinchiukas | JordiGH: can windows resize partitions at all? |
| 17:53.04 | Vasistha | wow, I just love aptitude more and more as I get into it. I'm really glad I switched. |
| 17:53.07 | lunitik | Pinchiukas: Professional can |
| 17:53.23 | Ronin | you'll loose all data though iirc using windows to do it |
| 17:53.46 | lunitik | FUD is fun |
| 17:53.53 | liran_ | Vasistha: what were you using before |
| 17:54.05 | *** join/#debian folp (n=roby@ip-122-35.sn2.eutelia.it) |
| 17:54.06 | Pinchiukas | lunitik: can it really? :) are you sure? :) |
| 17:54.08 | Vasistha | liran_: apt-get |
| 17:54.14 | Vasistha | liran_: ...and synaptic |
| 17:54.18 | lunitik | Pinchiukas: yes... |
| 17:54.22 | *** join/#debian skala (n=skala@x1-6-00-50-bf-ed-d0-bc.k380.webspeed.dk) |
| 17:54.27 | Pinchiukas | lunitik: through disk management? |
| 17:54.29 | Ronin | Pinchiukas: if you need to resize windows to make room for linux theres always pqmagic |
| 17:54.32 | liran_ | Vasistha: ahh ok... what do you find fun in aptitude? :) |
| 17:54.38 | *** join/#debian imu (n=imu@82.55.79.110) |
| 17:54.43 | lunitik | Pinchiukas: I believe that's the name of it... in administration tools |
| 17:54.44 | *** join/#debian floe (n=flo@adsl-75-58-156-237.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:54.46 | Pinchiukas | nah, I'm asking if windows itself can resize |
| 17:55.03 | Pinchiukas | lunitik: I have it opened and I don't see an option to resize |
| 17:55.12 | *** join/#debian atilax_ (n=atilax@251.Red-217-127-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:55.15 | folp | How would you implement user creation via web with virtual domains? |
| 17:55.17 | Vasistha | liran_: it's just so usable. It's user-friendly, easy to learn, powerful. And I like it more and more as I learn more about all its features :-) |
| 17:55.17 | lunitik | Pinchiukas: I've done it... *shrug* |
| 17:55.21 | *** part/#debian atilax_ (n=atilax@251.Red-217-127-103.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:55.31 | liran_ | cool :P |
| 17:55.41 | Pinchiukas | "convert disk to dynamic" - what the FUCK?! |
| 17:55.42 | stew | !why aptitude |
| 17:55.43 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 17:56.02 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (n=sphenxes@85-125-148-188.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 17:56.23 | *** join/#debian jkonami (n=johnny@216.64.2.44) |
| 17:56.27 | Pinchiukas | the way m$ calls things astonishes me to say at least |
| 17:56.41 | Pinchiukas | did you know that tooltips in ie are called infotips? neither did I lol |
| 17:56.55 | lunitik | Pinchiukas: that is somewhat like LVM |
| 17:57.06 | lunitik | (in that you can create pools of drives) |
| 17:57.10 | Pinchiukas | but, of course, crippled beyond usage? |
| 17:57.10 | liran_ | Vasistha: what I am always getting is that friends ask how to explicitly install a specific package even though apt-get wants to install some other software with it. |
| 17:57.14 | jkonami | Hey guys - I have the latest stable dvd set - and I don't know which nic driver to use for this broadcom netextreme II in the poweredge 1900 I'm installing - the tg3 driver doesn't work |
| 17:57.27 | liran_ | Vasistha: say if you apt-get install mutt it would prompt to also install postfix and some ssl package |
| 17:57.42 | *** join/#debian |AciD| (n=gni@APoitiers-157-1-25-98.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:57.52 | lunitik | liran_: turn off auto installation of recommends? |
| 17:58.40 | elefth | Will the netinst image at: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ work ok or they still have the problem mentioned in the news item of the 10th of Feb.? |
| 17:59.00 | lunitik | liran_: actually... with apt-get ... it's bringing in required packages for functionality... you can file a bug if you don't think it's necessary... or compile it yourself to take away the functionality |
| 17:59.06 | elefth | (Key expiry breaks most etch RC1 images) |
| 17:59.22 | *** join/#debian Serajewe1KS (n=devnull@unaffiliated/serajewelks) |
| 17:59.24 | *** join/#debian kupesoft (n=dave@CPE00119583e9ae-CM0013718cb08a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:59.39 | Vasistha | liran_: yeah ... I was previously in some bad habits there. I would often read the recommends, or even the dependency libs, and add them to my "install" line, so now I'm pruning my system by marking many libs as "automatically installed" ... but I only have to do this once :-) |
| 17:59.42 | elefth | also, does anyone happen to know a USB wireless adaptor that will work with Etch (as I am looking to buy one) or a half-height wireless PCI card that would work nicely with Etch? |
| 17:59.55 | *** part/#debian Tallu (i=juuso@unaffiliated/tallu) |
| 18:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 759] by debhelper |
| 18:00.09 | wols | many ralink are half height |
| 18:00.26 | *** join/#debian \amethyst (n=neil@74-140-178-145.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 18:01.08 | Pinchiukas | I open a dsl connection properties and I see a field called service name, not that I'd find it in the services or whatever, so what am I supposed to think? :) geez |
| 18:01.17 | Pinchiukas | I should do a video about it :) |
| 18:01.21 | drummer_wilson | hi! i had a problem with my windows partition and i had to reinstall windows.. now the worst thing happened.. it overwritten mbr and grub is gone, how can i bring it back? |
| 18:01.28 | lunitik | elefth: most will work if you're not apposed to using ndiswrapper |
| 18:01.45 | liran_ | lunitik: it's not on recommnded list... |
| 18:01.56 | wols | drummer_wilson: by reinstalling grub |
| 18:02.00 | scv | drummer_wilson: you can enter the windows from the grub |
| 18:02.01 | Vasistha | drummer_wilson: I think someone already answered your question, dude. Get a live cd, or a grub floppy, and reinstall grub. |
| 18:02.17 | wols | scv: windows is the only thing in his MBR. there is no grub anymore |
| 18:02.36 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=fhaberma@e177239155.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:02.40 | drummer_wilson | get a live cd and then what guys? |
| 18:02.52 | elefth | lunaphyte, ndiswrapper? |
| 18:02.56 | drummer_wilson | im sorry i wasnt here to see the answer earlier |
| 18:02.58 | lunitik | drummer_wilson: mount your /boot partitioin... and install grub onto it |
| 18:03.00 | wols | drummer_wilson: reinstall grub then |
| 18:03.06 | elefth | I meant lunitik |
| 18:03.09 | fluxdude | elefth: i told you that ndiswrapper was crap |
| 18:03.10 | lunitik | !tell elefth about ndiswrapper |
| 18:03.41 | elefth | wrapping windows drivers..? eeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 18:03.43 | elefth | no thanks |
| 18:03.51 | elefth | I want real open source drives if possible |
| 18:03.55 | lunitik | elefth: psht, works fine |
| 18:03.56 | fluxdude | elefth: I've used it but after 30-60mins of use it used to crash and I'd have to restart the whole thing |
| 18:03.58 | elefth | drivers even |
| 18:04.10 | abaddon | hi, i need a basic firewall package that works with iptables-save/restore, that provides a script to restore on startup and save on shutdown, any packages like that available on the repo? |
| 18:04.11 | fluxdude | elefth: basically, avoid it if you can, YMMV |
| 18:04.14 | phreqmod | drummer_wilson, there are many options... one that works for me is to boot from a live cd, mount the / filesystem in /tmp/fs, chroot /tmp/fs and withing that chrroted environment run frub-install /dev/hda (or whatever) |
| 18:04.31 | *** join/#debian buscon (n=term@host-84-220-160-123.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 18:04.34 | phreqmod | This has the advantage of using you installed system menu.lst |
| 18:04.39 | elefth | lunitik, it is not only about working. I prefer to use free/open source software in general. |
| 18:04.41 | fluxdude | elefth: "I want real open source drives if possible", the almight Stallman would be proud of you ;-) |
| 18:04.51 | elefth | lunitik, but thanks anyway |
| 18:04.58 | Kevin` | elefth I believe zydas based usb adapters work ok, most people doing wifi avoid usb because of generally poor RF performance. prism usb also works ok |
| 18:05.01 | lunitik | elefth: you'll have an issue then |
| 18:05.04 | phreqmod | There are other ways, of course, a simpler grub-install without the chrrot, provided you know yuour way around GRUB's shell |
| 18:05.13 | drummer_wilson | phreqmod: what live cd do you recomend? i need a small |
| 18:05.16 | stew | fluxdude: RMS is not going to be proud of someone using the term "open source" :P |
| 18:05.21 | elefth | fluxdude, well, for the same reason I am sticking to GMA 3000 graphics card rather than getting something else |
| 18:05.51 | lunitik | Kevin`: I have a prism2 usb wireless adapter... and it certainly doesn't work ok |
| 18:05.55 | phreqmod | drummer_wilson, dunno, anything will do I think... say, knoppix, grml, whatever is at hand. Even that Ubuntu CD you havelying there in your desk :) |
| 18:05.58 | fluxdude | actually, I'm also interested in buying another linux wifi, so all suggestions welcome! |
| 18:06.00 | elefth | fluxdude, Stallman would not be proud of me using the term open-source. He prefers the term free software (as a matter of fact, I do too) |
| 18:06.00 | scv | drummer_wilson: iirc, put a fbsd install CD in, lol |
| 18:06.07 | Kevin` | elefth using which driver |
| 18:06.18 | fluxdude | elefth: ye ye ye... |
| 18:06.23 | scv | drummer_wilson: you can use it to enter your linux |
| 18:06.24 | *** join/#debian htkeo (n=huteou@85.8.6.147.se.wasadata.net) |
| 18:06.25 | kupesoft | Stallman needs a shave, |
| 18:06.27 | *** join/#debian Shaezsche (n=Shaezsch@24-179-177-189.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com) |
| 18:06.32 | Shaezsche | when is etch going to be done!?!?! |
| 18:06.36 | lunitik | ouch |
| 18:06.40 | lunitik | I'm gonna go |
| 18:06.40 | fluxdude | elefth: I'm just waiting for the day you switch to dumuntu so I can tease you! |
| 18:06.41 | elefth | Kevin`, as far as I know intel GMA 3000 has open source drivers, intel paid a company to write them and it is in X.org |
| 18:06.47 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 18:06.47 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/03/msg00012.html ; Etch is currently frozen. For details about what this means, read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00004.html |
| 18:06.50 | scv | drummer_wilson: or any bsds... |
| 18:06.53 | Kevin` | elefth I mean for the prism device |
| 18:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 18:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 18:06.58 | stew | Shaezsche: 39 more bugs |
| 18:07.01 | kupesoft | elegth: I'm using etch. It's ready to be used, |
| 18:07.01 | Shaezsche | just give me an estimated eta |
| 18:07.08 | fluxdude | sorry that was supposed to be dumbuntu, it must be rubbing off... |
| 18:07.08 | Shaezsche | 3 years? |
| 18:07.08 | Shaezsche | 2 months? |
| 18:07.08 | stew | Shaezsche: /topic |
| 18:07.10 | abrotman | Shaezsche: read the URLs above |
| 18:07.14 | elefth | Kevin`, I don't even know what this device is :-) |
| 18:07.15 | *** join/#debian kteok (n=keo@85.8.6.147.se.wasadata.net) |
| 18:07.22 | fluxdude | no seriously though, I need to find a really good wifi card |
| 18:07.25 | elefth | so USB wifi adapters are a bad idea in general |
| 18:07.28 | Azar | jkonami: you might want to try installing etch.... or sarge with 2.6.18 kernel... it has more hardware support |
| 18:07.35 | kupesoft | err, Shaezsche |
| 18:07.43 | elefth | so I need to find a half-height wifi PCI card that works nice in Etch |
| 18:07.45 | Kevin` | elefth ya, pretty much |
| 18:07.46 | elefth | ugh |
| 18:07.47 | abaddon | or what firewall package would you recommend me if i want as low level as possible? i.e. setup individual rules easy |
| 18:07.48 | abrotman | kupesoft: it hasn't been released .. |
| 18:07.52 | abrotman | iptables ? |
| 18:07.53 | fluxdude | actually I'd prefer one usb based so I have the flexibility to use it on my workstation as well as my laptop.... |
| 18:07.55 | *** join/#debian lunatico (n=lunatic@ARennes-351-1-21-172.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:07.57 | fluxdude | shame the drivers suck |
| 18:08.00 | Kevin` | it will be better performance elefth |
| 18:08.12 | lunitik | fluxdude: lazybuntu more like..... it's no less 'dumb' than debian |
| 18:08.15 | wols | abrotman: iptables. the question is: what do you need a "firewall" for? |
| 18:08.18 | Kevin` | lunitik which driver are YOU using, sorry |
| 18:08.29 | wols | abaddon: |
| 18:08.29 | fluxdude | elefth: if you find one you like, let me know, I gotta buy one too. |
| 18:08.37 | lunitik | Kevin`: prism2_usb didn't work... so that box is using ndiswrapper |
| 18:08.43 | abaddon | wols: iptables, i want to just setup rules by hand, not handle the shell script for start/stop |
| 18:08.46 | elefth | fluxdude, I will do some searching in 30 mins or so (still at work) |
| 18:08.49 | abrotman | wols: building inspector said it was to keep the fire from spreading .. seems to me .. stuff still burns |
| 18:08.51 | Kevin` | lunitik what about wlan-ng? |
| 18:08.58 | lunitik | Kevin`: no issues in just over 6 months now |
| 18:09.00 | fluxdude | elefth: same here remember!!!!! |
| 18:09.16 | abrotman | or ask #wireless ? |
| 18:09.16 | wols | abaddon: use iptables then |
| 18:09.19 | kupesoft | There's a good article in April's Linux Journal about iptables, |
| 18:09.20 | *** join/#debian estupendocero (n=dave@ip68-8-134-10.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 18:09.24 | kupesoft | For newbies, mind you |
| 18:09.27 | fluxdude | the "flux" gives it away remember... |
| 18:09.30 | abaddon | wols: know a package that provides me that script or has options to read a iptables-dump ? |
| 18:09.38 | abrotman | read the iptables docs |
| 18:09.39 | Kevin` | ya, except windows drivers are near-useless for monitoring or access points, and only work on x86 |
| 18:09.54 | *** join/#debian wreis (n=wallace@201.29.223.236) |
| 18:09.55 | JordiGH | 39 more RC bugs? |
| 18:09.59 | *** join/#debian Ramattack (n=egoitz@eu83-213-30-253.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 18:10.11 | abaddon | wols: iptables :) hey i know iptables firewalling, i just want a script to handle my rules and have it nicely in a dpkg --list |
| 18:10.28 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@63.135.23.39) |
| 18:10.36 | JordiGH | How did they manage to suddenly squash so many? |
| 18:10.50 | Azar | abaddon: do you trust "some script" handling your iptables? make one yourself |
| 18:10.51 | estupendocero | I'm trying to mount an ipod as a storage device, like a thumb drive, but it doesn't show up in /etc/fstab or /etcmtab when I plug it in, or even reboot with it plugged in. I'm a n00b and don't know where else to look. Any advice? |
| 18:10.56 | *** join/#debian junix|work (n=andrew@65.107.72.51.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 18:10.58 | *** part/#debian wreis (n=wallace@201.29.223.236) |
| 18:11.12 | *** join/#debian yoshio (n=yoshio@h4606bc75.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 18:11.21 | Kevin` | estupendocero type dmesg, then mount the device name it was assigned when you plugged it in |
| 18:11.25 | wols | estupendocero: YOU need to edit /etc/fstab. there is no magic there: only what you write in there shows up |
| 18:11.26 | *** join/#debian jlhenry (n=jlhenry@142.213.254.2) |
| 18:11.28 | stew | JordiGH: they didn't suddenly squash many, they suddently improved the bugscan to be able to better make use of the version tracking in the BTS, and now they have bugscan running on the machine that has the bts db |
| 18:11.33 | junix|work | abrotman: i never got the nvidia working, i switched back to the intel |
| 18:11.41 | abrotman | good plan |
| 18:11.43 | abaddon | Azar: a distro should have everything provided to make for an easy administration, i can just use slackware if i would want to litter /etc with my own scripts :) |
| 18:11.57 | estupendocero | wols, see, I'm super n00b, thanks |
| 18:11.58 | abaddon | anyway, thanks, i guess ill just start testing packages |
| 18:12.04 | estupendocero | Kevin`, thanks |
| 18:12.09 | stew | JordiGH: http://people.debian.org/~sesse/bugscan/ vs. |
| 18:12.12 | jlhenry | Hello; What are the advantages of having multiple vg in LVM? It is for using on a Xen dom0 (1Tb HD) |
| 18:12.13 | *** join/#debian massctrl (n=mljk@d51A54F17.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:12.17 | junix|work | abrotman: but now nothing comes up, no vlc, amarok, no xmms |
| 18:12.20 | stew | JordiGH: ...http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 18:12.21 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:12.24 | abrotman | need more details! |
| 18:12.36 | junix|work | i click on the app and xmms, comes up and goes away |
| 18:12.42 | junix|work | i haven't tried running from cli |
| 18:12.47 | Azar | abaddon: here is about freedom to create yourself vs "out-of-the-box-take-it-or-leave-it" |
| 18:13.08 | drummer_wilson | phreqmod: guys please.. help me reinstall grub.. whats the smallest live cd out there that can fix grub? |
| 18:13.11 | Azar | stew: there were 33 few hours ago |
| 18:13.13 | junix|work | abrotman: VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus |
| 18:13.13 | junix|work | Segmentation fault |
| 18:13.14 | *** part/#debian Pinchiukas (n=pi@88.119.44.156) |
| 18:13.14 | massctrl | hellowz, debian's udev doesn't store the mapping of mac addresses and ethx into a persistent-net rule ? where is this stored ? |
| 18:13.33 | junix|work | abrotman: everything is seg faulting |
| 18:13.39 | junix|work | WONDERFUL |
| 18:13.44 | wols | abaddon: dumbing down complex things via a pretty gui is never helpful |
| 18:13.57 | stew | massctrl: udev 090 and above can do this. it is stored in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 18:13.58 | *** join/#debian ||arifaX (n=||arifaX@87.139.51.249) |
| 18:14.14 | stew | massctrl: so udev in etch and sid can, stable cannot |
| 18:14.40 | JordiGH | stew: I see... |
| 18:14.43 | estupendocero | Kevin`, what am I looking for in dmesg? Nothing seems to be jumping out at me as it. |
| 18:15.04 | Kevin` | estupendocero let me get an example.. |
| 18:15.07 | Kevin` | have to find a usb device |
| 18:15.20 | massctrl | stew:thnx |
| 18:15.23 | *** join/#debian lftl_ (n=spanky@adsl-072-148-023-022.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:15.48 | abaddon | wols: just a simple script to take output from iptables-save and when shutdown to iptables-restore... i dont want gui, i just dont want to do slackware, i can do slack on a real slack box :> |
| 18:15.49 | JordiGH | drummer_wilson: I always have a Knoppix CD lying around. I think the original Debian installer CD might allow you to reinstall grub from a busybox terminal, but I'm not sure about this, and it's not going to be very user-friendly (but not terribly difficult either). |
| 18:15.59 | phreqmod | drummer_wilson, I dont know what's the smallest really. |
| 18:16.23 | JordiGH | DSL or Puppy Linux might have livecds.... |
| 18:16.28 | estupendocero | Whoah, this looks bad: |
| 18:16.33 | *** join/#debian holycow (n=hello@mail.wjsgroup.com) |
| 18:16.40 | phreqmod | drummer_wilson, JordiGH is right, a regulat Debian install CD can also be used, pressing Alt+F2 will give you a shell and then you can proceed,. not user friendly but doable |
| 18:16.40 | Kevin` | estupendocero http://pastebin.ca/396352 |
| 18:16.48 | stew | abaddon: write an init script, put it in /etc/init.d/ ; use update-rc.d scriptname defaults ; to make it run at boot and shutdown; have a look at /etc/init.d/README and /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 18:16.57 | phreqmod | I'm of to the match now, bbl |
| 18:17.09 | Kevin` | estupendocero I would mount sdb1 in that case |
| 18:17.14 | estupendocero | I have a bunch of these in dmesg: [17179595.160000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 3 |
| 18:17.14 | estupendocero | [17179595.160000] hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 18:17.14 | estupendocero | [17179595.160000] hdc: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 } |
| 18:17.14 | estupendocero | [17179595.160000] ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| 18:17.14 | estupendocero | [17179595.160000] end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 32 |
| 18:17.15 | *** kick/#debian [estupendocero!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 18:17.17 | stew | abaddon: note that it might be recommended to instead do this using up/down lines in /etc/network/interfaces instead (man 5 interfaces) |
| 18:17.24 | Azar | junix|work: are you using unstable? |
| 18:17.34 | junix|work | Azar: yes, y? |
| 18:17.35 | *** join/#debian si0ux (n=si0ux@carol-200-225-216-097.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) |
| 18:17.41 | *** join/#debian estupendocero (n=dave@ip68-8-134-10.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 18:17.47 | estupendocero | whoops sorry about that |
| 18:17.48 | Kevin` | estupendocero is hdc a hard drive? |
| 18:17.52 | Kevin` | or something else |
| 18:17.59 | JordiGH | Those look like hardware failure errors... |
| 18:18.11 | *** join/#debian zamuro (n=FlavorFl@190.38.88.6) |
| 18:18.11 | Azar | junix|work: that what I was experiencing with it too some time ago when I tried it: it worked for a while then stuff started dissapearing/not responding |
| 18:18.14 | *** join/#debian damog (i=damog@debian/developer/damog) |
| 18:18.14 | Kevin` | (hdc would not be the usb drive) |
| 18:18.22 | junix|work | Azar: interesting |
| 18:18.25 | liran_ | JordiGH: I actually have some gigs as unallocated free space lying around which I can use them to extend my current ext3 only that I'm not seeing any "merge" option, and I can't enlarge my current ext3 filesystem, and moreover I can't create new partitions cause I already have 4 (and I need to create an extended one for having more)... |
| 18:18.30 | Kevin` | estupendocero did you get my example? http://pastebin.ca/396352 |
| 18:18.46 | Azar | junix|work: that was the first and last time I used unstable |
| 18:18.53 | junix|work | Azar: ah |
| 18:19.00 | estupendocero | Kevin`, I see it |
| 18:19.03 | JordiGH | liran_: So? Make an extended partition. |
| 18:19.27 | estupendocero | I'll look for that, but those other errors are freaking me out now :S |
| 18:19.29 | Kevin` | estupendocero if hdc is a hard drive you could have a problem with it that needs attention. if it's something like a cdrom, eject the cd to avoid all the spurious messages |
| 18:19.33 | *** join/#debian KLD (i=lambda@learnded.to.wright.at.scool.org) |
| 18:19.35 | liran_ | JordiGH: I can't just make a new one, I must delete one to create more... |
| 18:19.39 | JordiGH | liran_: Also, it's not possible to merge partitions unless you're using something like LVM. You can resize an ext3 partition from behind into free space. |
| 18:19.46 | stew | estupendocero: your hard drive is probably dying. you should make a backup immediately; you might check smartmontools ; you might try replacing the cable or trying to different ide port, but you are probably going to have to replace the drive |
| 18:19.48 | estupendocero | Yeah, I need to look at what hdc is |
| 18:20.04 | liran_ | JordiGH: right, I want to make use of that free space to enlarge the ext3 partition. |
| 18:20.19 | estupendocero | Wow, thank goodness I discovered this, huh? |
| 18:20.47 | abrotman | or it's a bad CD .. or it needs DMA |
| 18:20.53 | JordiGH | liran_: Do you have media to back up into? It might be worthwhile to backup (gparted can do this too) and start from scratch again, perhaps even installing lvm. |
| 18:20.59 | *** join/#debian nawolfe (n=nawolfe@129.128.211.53) |
| 18:21.04 | *** join/#debian SpeS (n=SpeS@126.Red-83-33-170.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:21.12 | liran_ | JordiGH: no, that's not an option at the moment... |
| 18:21.25 | liran_ | JordiGH: I can delete the swap partition for the time being |
| 18:21.48 | estupendocero | pssh, it's just a cdrom |
| 18:21.50 | liran_ | JordiGH: Say I delete the swap partition, and I can create more partitions, how do I enlarge the existing ext3? |
| 18:21.56 | JordiGH | liran_: Oh, try that. Swap partitions are not a big eal. |
| 18:21.58 | estupendocero | whew, that scared me for a second |
| 18:22.39 | elefth | Will the netinst image at: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ work ok or they still have the problem mentioned in the news item of the 10th of Feb.? |
| 18:22.46 | JordiGH | liran_: Remember that you can mess around with gparted without touching your hard drive. It'll let you know what it can do, and you can commit changes only when you're ready. Don't be too afraid (just a little!) of experimenting. |
| 18:22.48 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (n=wil@wc-35.r-195-35-167.atwork.nl) |
| 18:23.09 | *** join/#debian jor (n=jor@ip51cfee06.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 18:23.12 | liran_ | JordiGH: right :) |
| 18:23.49 | *** join/#debian trajan (n=trajan@AMontpellier-152-1-11-126.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:23.55 | *** join/#debian chromosome (n=dan@87.120.60.44) |
| 18:24.20 | *** join/#debian obstfliege (n=obstflie@xdsl-87-79-193-173.netcologne.de) |
| 18:24.20 | *** join/#debian cr3 (n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3) |
| 18:24.35 | cr3 | is there a way to run something when the gnome desktop of a user appears? |
| 18:24.42 | dutchfish | How can i make summerization of dir sizes with totals for the dirs in the curent path? |
| 18:25.00 | abrotman | ls | xargs du -sk .. if i understand you |
| 18:25.06 | *** join/#debian freezombie (i=7qBmpGKw@tuxhacker/free-zombie) |
| 18:25.58 | JordiGH | cr3: edit .Xsession is a kludgy way of doing; there's some option under sessions in the Gnome preferences that will also let you do it. |
| 18:25.58 | *** join/#debian Givade (n=Givade@dslc-082-082-088-233.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:25.58 | cr3 | JordiGH: cheers, I'll check the preferences and see how that affects something probably under ~/.gconf* |
| 18:25.58 | JordiGH | Speaking of redirection, how can I pipe something besides STDOUT with | ? |
| 18:26.17 | JordiGH | 2| doesn't work as it does with 2> |
| 18:26.22 | cr3 | JordiGH: 2>&1 | |
| 18:26.39 | JordiGH | cr3: Thanks. :-) |
| 18:26.44 | *** join/#debian huteouheo (n=huteou@85.8.6.147.se.wasadata.net) |
| 18:26.57 | dutchfish | abrotman, if i use du -h i get ALL the sizes of all the subdirs, i nee just 1 total per dir (with subdirsizes totals added) |
| 18:27.01 | estupendocero | Kevin`, I'm not seeing anything in dmesg like that - could it be something wrong with my usb support? That doesn't seem right as I've used it before |
| 18:27.10 | abrotman | ls | xargs du -sk .. if i understand you |
| 18:27.15 | stew | dutchfish: du -hs * |
| 18:27.23 | abrotman | k is kilo .. h is human |
| 18:27.41 | Kevin` | estupendocero not having usb support would indeed cause no messages to appear, but if it was working before I doubt that's the case |
| 18:27.50 | drummer_wilson | will this fix my grub? http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 18:28.26 | stew | k is kibi :) |
| 18:28.35 | estupendocero | Kevin`, the "it" in my previous statement was ambiguous. I haven't used the ipod before, but I have used USB. I've imported photos from cameras and things. |
| 18:28.43 | dutchfish | abrotman, yes excellent thx! |
| 18:28.47 | *** join/#debian welta (n=welta@91.2-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:29.08 | estupendocero | I have never really gotten storage devices to work |
| 18:29.08 | *** part/#debian welta (n=welta@91.2-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:29.34 | estupendocero | I seem to recall I figured out how to manually mount a thumb drive once, but I don't remember how |
| 18:29.35 | *** join/#debian Therac-25 (n=iwarford@CPE0013100da803-CM001225d72244.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:29.38 | *** part/#debian cr3 (n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3) |
| 18:29.39 | abrotman | stew: whatever! you know what i meant! |
| 18:30.01 | *** join/#debian |hron| (n=hron@mm-183-245-209-82.adsl.mgts.by) |
| 18:30.32 | stew | you meant --si -k :) |
| 18:30.32 | estupendocero | Perhaps I should examine my usb support anyway |
| 18:30.48 | stew | estupendocero: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 18:31.02 | abrotman | !kikismite stew |
| 18:31.34 | *** join/#debian freezombie (i=rnMMBuip@tuxhacker/free-zombie) |
| 18:32.39 | estupendocero | Ah, thank you stew, very helpful. |
| 18:32.54 | *** join/#debian MaTTh- (n=chelou@art95-1-82-232-244-1.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:33.08 | stew | heh, we have a client named kiki that sells shiny stuff |
| 18:34.54 | *** part/#debian Therac-25 (n=iwarford@CPE0013100da803-CM001225d72244.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:37.45 | junix|work | is there a program i can use that isn't broken to play divx/xvid? |
| 18:37.58 | junix|work | i tried |
| 18:38.00 | junix|work | gmplayer |
| 18:38.00 | junix|work | vlc |
| 18:38.07 | junix|work | totem |
| 18:38.46 | abrotman | mplayer ? |
| 18:38.48 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 18:38.54 | abrotman | did you use xine and gstreamer backends for totem ? |
| 18:39.05 | petemc | junix|work: they all work fine, do you have the codecs installed? |
| 18:39.14 | junix|work | yes..i think so |
| 18:39.18 | petemc | you think so? |
| 18:39.29 | abrotman | was that for me or you ? |
| 18:39.36 | petemc | heh |
| 18:39.49 | junix|work | it was for petemc |
| 18:39.52 | junix|work | xine is broken too |
| 18:39.58 | junix|work | i can't use that as a standalone |
| 18:40.22 | petemc | i would double check you have the codecs before declaring anything broken |
| 18:40.31 | junix|work | vlc played them all fine |
| 18:40.33 | JoshH | or at least define broken |
| 18:40.49 | junix|work | they segfault when i open them |
| 18:40.55 | *** join/#debian sod (n=john@host81-153-215-11.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:40.56 | abrotman | JoshH: less than working ... duh |
| 18:40.56 | petemc | why didnt you say that? |
| 18:40.57 | JoshH | before you try to play a file? |
| 18:41.08 | junix|work | when i try to use the application |
| 18:41.15 | abrotman | have you tried more than one ? |
| 18:41.31 | junix|work | yep |
| 18:42.16 | JoshH | so as soon as you start totem it crashes? you never actually try to play a file with it? |
| 18:42.22 | junix|work | yep |
| 18:42.47 | abrotman | does totem work for playing an mp3 or ogg ? |
| 18:42.59 | junix|work | didn't try |
| 18:43.01 | JoshH | any useful error if you run it from a terminal? |
| 18:43.04 | abrotman | you should |
| 18:43.06 | junix|work | k |
| 18:43.28 | *** join/#debian Glenn^BF (n=fburlet@user-85-201-8-149.tvcablenet.be) |
| 18:43.44 | *** join/#debian ^ogro^ (n=^ogro^@9.Red-80-59-173.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:48.06 | *** join/#debian DigitalOktay (n=DigitalO@dslb-084-057-225-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:48.45 | *** join/#debian cookoo (n=brendan@c-68-61-112-197.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 18:49.59 | cookoo | my screen is scrambled on my boot it gos crazy as soon as it starts loading vid card stuff it fixex its self when it hits gdm any ideas? |
| 18:50.31 | *** join/#debian Leibsle_ (n=dieter@unaffiliated/leibsle) |
| 18:50.49 | sepski | cookoo, adjust your framebuffer |
| 18:51.44 | *** join/#debian leninmhs (n=leninmhs@200.90.29.50) |
| 18:51.45 | cookoo | adjust it how from on to off didnt make any difference |
| 18:52.07 | cookoo | in XF86Config-4 |
| 18:52.28 | abrotman | junix|work: does it work ? |
| 18:52.44 | *** join/#debian Saar (n=Saar@66.252.131.147) |
| 18:52.48 | junix|work | haven' tried it, was finishing lunch and wastching rescue me |
| 18:53.29 | cookoo | i see matroxfb: 640x480x8bpp matroxfb: framebuffer at 0xE8000000, mapped to 0xc6935000, size 8388608 |
| 18:54.06 | abrotman | why are oyu using fb ? |
| 18:54.13 | abrotman | and do you even have a matrox card ? |
| 18:54.17 | Saar | hello, would anyone know how to change the locale from this: LANG= LC_CTYPE="POSIX".... to some us.utf font? |
| 18:54.25 | wintix | i have already asked some time ago, maybe someone who can help me reads this now. i am running debian sarge amd64. after a failed dist-upgrade, i am unable to write to certain areas of the filesystem (ext3) like /usr/sbin and other important directories. the same problem exists when i boot an rescue system over network and try to write to those areas of the filesystem. fsck comes up clean, even with check forced. any ideas ... |
| 18:54.31 | wintix | ... how to get this going again without reinstallation? |
| 18:54.37 | cookoo | yes i have matrox |
| 18:54.48 | Azar | Saar: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 18:54.54 | abrotman | wintix: what are the perms on the directories ? |
| 18:55.00 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 18:55.05 | scv | cookoo: a 8MB pci matrox? |
| 18:55.08 | junix|work | abrotman: no its not working at all, it won't do anything |
| 18:55.10 | junix|work | it crashes |
| 18:55.34 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (n=marcus@p5485CF77.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:55.55 | *** join/#debian Saizan (i=saizan@host-84-222-237-146.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 18:55.57 | Saar | Azar, yes I tried that the other day and it insisted to revert back to posix... but I'm running it again in case I missed sth |
| 18:56.07 | *** join/#debian alaya (n=alaya@adsl-75-32-149-194.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:56.23 | *** join/#debian sha1sum (n=none@pdpc/supporter/active/md5sum) |
| 18:56.25 | cookoo | agp |
| 18:56.47 | cookoo | mga 100 |
| 18:57.18 | wintix | abrotman: for example: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 Feb 26 18:30 sbin |
| 18:57.21 | alaya | ok. i think this is the weirdest thing i've ever seen. i launched vlc from a virtual terminal command line and opened a dvd. instead of playing it in the vlc window, its playing it as ASCII art in the console window. |
| 18:57.32 | torrr | what does that mean, I did dpkg -P tomcat5.5-admin and got: |
| 18:57.42 | torrr | invoke-rc.d: initscript tomcat5.5, action "status" failed. |
| 18:57.47 | Azar | woohooo ASCII pron |
| 18:57.59 | *** join/#debian tminos (n=bowens@office.techxpress.net) |
| 18:57.59 | alaya | Star Wars actually |
| 18:58.12 | Saar | Alaya: probably you're somehow using a terminal as video output as opposed to X or sth |
| 18:58.17 | Azar | yeah well I was joking, so how does Luke looks like in ASCII? |
| 18:58.17 | abrotman | junix|work: so give us something useful |
| 18:58.40 | abrotman | wintix: and the FS is fine ? |
| 18:58.56 | stew | aalib rules |
| 18:58.58 | alaya | well the only thing legible was the initial star wars logo at the beginning. now its stuck in the main menu and just looks like garbage |
| 18:59.02 | Saar | mplayer for example supports output as ascii to a terminal |
| 18:59.04 | wintix | abrotman: according to fsck, yes. |
| 18:59.11 | abrotman | alaya: wait .. does the scrolling text work?!!? |
| 18:59.30 | alaya | abrotman: well the star wars logo looked really cool |
| 18:59.35 | abrotman | hehe |
| 18:59.41 | wintix | abrotman: i fscked it from a rescue system and tried to write to the directories from the rescue system, which is totally unrelated to the installed system. |
| 18:59.47 | abrotman | but the Once upon a timeetc .. not so good ? |
| 19:00.11 | alaya | anyhow, i was going to ask another question - when i run vlc as user the output is scrambled, but as root it is ok. any ideas why? |
| 19:00.41 | *** join/#debian Sjord (n=Sjoerd@d146152.upc-d.chello.nl) |
| 19:00.44 | alaya | abrotman: unfortunately its stuck at the menu so i can't get the actual thing started. |
| 19:01.11 | wintix | is there a mount option to override all file permissions on an ext3 filesystem? |
| 19:01.15 | alaya | oh wait!!! selecting chapter 1 !!! |
| 19:01.18 | *** join/#debian yell0w (n=yellow@unaffiliated/yellow) |
| 19:01.53 | *** join/#debian welta (n=welta@91.2-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:02.13 | alaya | ok, i gotta film this with my camcorder... |
| 19:02.43 | *** join/#debian vabalas (n=null@84.32.74.241) |
| 19:02.52 | *** join/#debian adj (i=ssanders@69.49.141.10) |
| 19:03.14 | *** join/#debian pykaboo (n=pykaboo@AAubervilliers-153-1-61-80.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:03.30 | alaya | wow, watching star wars in ASCII art at 1920x1200. something to see. |
| 19:03.36 | *** join/#debian oklien (n=oklien@ti100710a081-7084.bb.online.no) |
| 19:03.36 | Vasistha | wintix: ...probably not. why on earth would you want to do something like that? |
| 19:03.41 | adj | if i took a sarge box, changed sources to etch, then updated the cache, and finally upgraded a single package (including dependencies) can i go back to sarge in my sources? |
| 19:03.55 | *** join/#debian HymnToLife (n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:04.04 | Vasistha | !tell adj -about backports |
| 19:04.13 | sepski | adj, that is called breaking your system dont mix flavors |
| 19:04.46 | Saar | alaya: so after dpkg-reconfigure locales and logout/login it still insists to "POSIX" |
| 19:04.54 | adj | sepski: what part of this is breaking my system? upgrading one packge to etch? or doing so and returning apt sources to sarge? |
| 19:05.13 | adj | Vasistha: there are no bckports for openldap 2.3 |
| 19:05.14 | *** join/#debian simmerz (n=simmerz@iitempest.demon.co.uk) |
| 19:05.22 | stew | Saar: figure out where that is being set, check /etc/environment /etc/profile ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile... |
| 19:05.29 | *** join/#debian duckx (n=Duck@tox.dyndns.org) |
| 19:05.32 | sepski | adj, using etch packages on sarge |
| 19:05.45 | *** join/#debian vabalas (n=null@84.32.74.241) |
| 19:05.51 | sepski | adj, use a backport from backports.org, or backport it yourself using the simple sid backport |
| 19:05.56 | sepski | !simple sid backport |
| 19:05.56 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly. |
| 19:06.15 | Saar | stew: right thanks, let's try |
| 19:06.20 | *** join/#debian d00d_ (n=d00d_@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 19:06.29 | *** join/#debian scoopex (n=scoopex@256bit.org) |
| 19:06.34 | adj | sepski: i can upgrade the whole system by changing the source, correct? |
| 19:06.37 | stew | adj: slapd in etch depends on libc6 from etch, so you'd end up upgrading your entire system if you tried to mix. either backport it or upgrade to etch if you really need slapd from etch |
| 19:06.44 | wintix | Vasistha: because my filesystem is somehow restricting write access to folder like /bin /usr/sbin, etc and i have no idea why. even with a rescue system i have no way to write to thoes folders. |
| 19:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 19:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 19:07.01 | sepski | adj, yes |
| 19:07.05 | Vasistha | wintix: they are probably mounted read-only |
| 19:07.06 | sepski | !sarge->etch |
| 19:07.07 | dpkg | Edit your sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch'. Save the file, then 'aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade'. Then consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. |
| 19:07.17 | adj | sepski: and how to i prevent it from changing libc6? im running a custom libc |
| 19:07.20 | *** join/#debian buscon (n=term@host-84-220-94-189.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 19:07.45 | Vasistha | wintix: you could pastebin the output of mount |
| 19:07.48 | sepski | adj, you backport it, instead of blindly installing binary packages built for a different flavor |
| 19:07.50 | adj | im pretty familiar with the procedures, you can stop making dpkg tell me things =) ill jujst ask him if i need help with the syntax. im more interested in the ramifications |
| 19:08.05 | wintix | Vasistha: one moment. |
| 19:08.13 | *** join/#debian bubshait (n=bubshait@212.76.82.11) |
| 19:08.31 | stew | adj: you can't upgrade to etch without upgrading libc6 |
| 19:08.36 | bubshait | hello, has the apt-setup issue been resolved in the debian testing weekly builds? |
| 19:08.45 | stew | adj: well what version of libc6 do you have installed now? |
| 19:08.52 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5CD9A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:09.01 | stew | bubshait: which issue? |
| 19:09.05 | stew | bubshait: the expired gpg keys? |
| 19:09.15 | adj | stew: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge4.xs0.3.5.47 |
| 19:09.21 | adj | from XenSource |
| 19:09.25 | bubshait | it doesn't seem to be a gpg issue |
| 19:09.29 | bubshait | mine just freezes |
| 19:09.30 | stew | adj: you'll need a 2.3.6 libc6 |
| 19:09.38 | stew | bubshait: at 5%? |
| 19:09.39 | bubshait | while downloading main packages it just stops |
| 19:09.42 | bubshait | 40% |
| 19:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 769] by debhelper |
| 19:10.21 | wintix | Vasistha: http://pastebin.ca/396420 |
| 19:10.23 | adj | ok. i guess ill just build a 2.3 backport. bleh. iwas hoping to not have to do that |
| 19:10.58 | *** join/#debian smimp (n=scott@cpe-76-185-116-154.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 19:11.20 | bubshait | ok, nvm |
| 19:11.24 | h3sp4wn | adj: You want libc-xen (and not libc-i686 - should conflict) -should you decide to go to etch |
| 19:11.26 | bubshait | seems to work |
| 19:11.28 | *** join/#debian antgel (n=antony@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/antgel) |
| 19:11.52 | antgel | hi all, want to use my sis card with svgatextmode, no clocks line in /etc/TextConfig, how can i find the right line? google isn't doing it for me |
| 19:11.53 | bubshait | froze with a friend, but worked with me |
| 19:11.53 | adj | h3sp4wn: awesome. thanks for the tip |
| 19:11.59 | antgel | comment says "consult the XFree86 clocks line for your card" - wtf? |
| 19:12.11 | *** join/#debian Maximiliaoadl (n=sistemas@201.250.5.137) |
| 19:12.19 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (n=kvirc@65.183.247.11) |
| 19:12.20 | *** join/#debian SpeS_Dimi (n=SpeS@28.Red-88-15-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:12.31 | h3sp4wn | adj: and linux-image-2.6.18-3-xen-686 has pae disabled whereas linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-686 has pae enabled |
| 19:13.33 | Saar | have to add "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG" to /etc/profile or it'll default to posix |
| 19:13.42 | adj | i dont think i need PAE on this box =) |
| 19:13.53 | wintix | Vasistha: any suggestions? |
| 19:14.18 | h3sp4wn | adj: Neither did I - However to use a debian kernel it seems I have no choice |
| 19:15.00 | *** join/#debian BoogyMan (n=floobie@84.252.53.57.eth.ggbit.net) |
| 19:15.07 | *** join/#debian Maerz (n=anonym00@pD95605B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:15.12 | *** part/#debian Maximiliaoadl (n=sistemas@201.250.5.137) |
| 19:15.43 | *** join/#debian pikudo (n=pikudo@216.75.2.64) |
| 19:16.06 | *** join/#debian pykaboo (n=pykaboo@AAubervilliers-153-1-61-80.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:16.32 | *** part/#debian pykaboo (n=pykaboo@AAubervilliers-153-1-61-80.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:16.39 | *** join/#debian bonez41 (n=bonez@c-71-195-250-0.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:17.07 | Azar | stew: apt-setup bug transition behavior: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Bug-383526-apt-setup-stable-testing-ftopict393534.html |
| 19:17.07 | h3sp4wn | Saar: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in /etc/environment is what I use |
| 19:18.12 | Vasistha | wintix: god, I dunno, it looks like it's mounted properly. how about ls -ld /bin /sbin |
| 19:18.46 | Azar | ...so those who upgrade from one version to another, or already upgraded into "testing" or "etch" what should do once Etch becomes stable? |
| 19:18.51 | stew | wintix: check that "lsattr /bin /sbin" returns all ----------- for the directories giving you problems |
| 19:20.08 | *** join/#debian lowkey (n=lowkey@63-227-5-204.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:20.20 | wintix | stew: check. everything ------------------ |
| 19:20.38 | *** join/#debian newdebusr (n=newdebus@p112-18.med.unc.edu) |
| 19:20.47 | wintix | oh. wait. wrong ssh window. one moment, stew. |
| 19:21.10 | *** join/#debian paxed (i=paxed@pdpc/supporter/active/paxed) |
| 19:21.26 | wintix | stew: hit. suS-iadAc-------- ./bin |
| 19:21.33 | wintix | and suS-iadAc-------- ./sbin |
| 19:21.44 | stew | awesome |
| 19:22.02 | wintix | ok what can i do about it, stew? |
| 19:22.34 | paxed | newly installed testing, can't get sound to work. module loaded and so on, but no /dev stuff? (eg. aumix says "error opening mixer") |
| 19:22.40 | stew | wintix: how were all of those extra attributes set? |
| 19:22.59 | stew | wintix: often that would be done by a hacker to try to keep his rootkit from getting overwritten |
| 19:23.43 | stew | wintix: unless you know exactly why all of those extra attributes were set, i'd recommend a reinstall |
| 19:23.46 | wintix | stew: i honestly have no idea. but i think so, too. i had some security issues, lately and now i have trouble fixing all the stuff because of the lack of write access. |
| 19:23.53 | Azar | paxed: maybe you did not got alsa installed |
| 19:24.01 | bzed | wintix: that cries for a complete reinstall |
| 19:24.21 | paxed | Azar: what else does it need apart from 'alsa-base'? |
| 19:24.43 | *** join/#debian floe (n=flo@adsl-76-193-211-215.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:24.43 | wintix | bzed, stew: yes, reinstall is going to happen. but the system has to do until the weekend and i really would love to have write access back on those folders. |
| 19:24.53 | Azar | paxed: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 19:24.54 | stew | wintix: man chattr |
| 19:24.54 | *** join/#debian TMH_ (n=steve@binaryroulette.com) |
| 19:25.16 | Saar | no idea why a language set in /etc/environment doesn't propagate through the system, all rc/profile files I could find did not set any language |
| 19:25.24 | *** join/#debian nyty (n=nyty@r3t43.net.upc.cz) |
| 19:25.24 | *** join/#debian Red_Cloud (n=wrt50lks@71-218-109-225.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:25.43 | stew | wintix: you might consider at least running debsums to see if someone replaced binaries without being smart enough to also replace the md5sums for the binaries |
| 19:25.46 | TMH_ | good evening. I've run into a snag in apt, while upgrading from ubuntu-warty to ubuntu-edgy. I'm using the command line "sudo apt-get -f -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=true dist-upgrade |
| 19:25.56 | stew | TMH_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 19:26.05 | TMH_ | the error is E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6 |
| 19:26.06 | *** join/#debian freetos (n=freetos@167-73-14-216-arpa.cust.cinci.current.net) |
| 19:26.10 | Azar | TMH_: debian has not the same specs as ubuntu |
| 19:26.18 | bzed | wintix: also apt-get install chkrootkit might help you, if you've some script kiddies on the box |
| 19:26.53 | TMH_ | it seems like an apt problem rather than a distro-specific problem |
| 19:26.55 | *** join/#debian juice` (n=juice@dmm247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:27.07 | Azar | TMH_: same name different apt ways |
| 19:27.10 | TMH_ | besides #ubuntu is fairly worthless for getting any help |
| 19:27.12 | bzed | TMH_: if any other distro fuhks up their apt, it's not debian's problem |
| 19:27.13 | *** join/#debian Seb (n=Seb@adsl-69-232-201-41.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 19:27.14 | *** join/#debian maple1 (n=b@bas8-kitchener06-1242499362.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:27.18 | azeem | TMH_: Ubuntu repackage libc6 |
| 19:27.22 | juice` | in what package is debian initrd ? it is not in linux-image |
| 19:27.26 | stew | TMH_: we will be more worthless. try a mailinglist perhaps |
| 19:27.27 | paxed | Azar: thanks |
| 19:27.28 | azeem | TMH_: so if libc6 fails to configure, it's an Ubuntu problem |
| 19:27.30 | *** part/#debian paxed (i=paxed@pdpc/supporter/active/paxed) |
| 19:27.37 | wintix | bzed: thanks, i will do that. |
| 19:27.40 | TMH_ | I see |
| 19:27.52 | TMH_ | thanks anyway. I'll try the forums (argh!) |
| 19:27.58 | azeem | TMH_: otherwise, don't jump over two stable realeases |
| 19:28.09 | freetos | i suspect with redhat shipping Xen, more ppl will use debian, me included |
| 19:28.23 | azeem | eh, three |
| 19:28.28 | stew | heh |
| 19:28.38 | Azar | Zen said "stay with what it works" |
| 19:28.47 | juice` | dpkg -S initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686 says there is no such file in any of the packages |
| 19:28.47 | dpkg | Package: initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686 says there is no such file in any of the packages: Status: install ok installed |
| 19:28.55 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=lordlame@e177239155.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:29.01 | h3sp4wn | juice`: Its generated by the postinst |
| 19:29.14 | h3sp4wn | juice`: (or dpkg-reconfigure) |
| 19:29.16 | TMH_ | gaaah, i'll try the upgrade from warty to hoary to breezy to dapper to edgy |
| 19:29.20 | stew | freetos: i don't know what it has to do with anything but debian ships xen as well, unless i'm missing something |
| 19:29.25 | TMH_ | it's going to be a looooooong night |
| 19:29.28 | juice` | any idea how to regenerate it ? i'm reinstalling linux kernel from source and i want it to be done in debian way |
| 19:29.29 | wintix | stew: stew 'chattr -R ------------------ /' should get it done, hm? (i better ask than am sorry afterwards) |
| 19:29.30 | azeem | TMH_: sounds better, maybe you can try dapper first |
| 19:29.35 | *** join/#debian Daantee (n=chatzill@88.254.189.109) |
| 19:29.42 | azeem | TMH_: anyway, we can't help you any further in here |
| 19:29.52 | Daantee | hey guys |
| 19:29.59 | *** join/#debian vanisher (n=JayJay76@s55916da7.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 19:30.05 | Daantee | azemm hi |
| 19:30.06 | *** join/#debian ucskn (n=chatzill@88.242.133.28) |
| 19:30.07 | *** join/#debian Student (n=HaTun18@85.108.150.178) |
| 19:30.14 | juice` | but the version of kernel im installing is not in .src or .deb so i have to do it myself, but would like to see debian examples |
| 19:30.19 | *** join/#debian coolprogrammer (n=chatzill@88.232.97.152) |
| 19:30.20 | ucskn | yes evet |
| 19:30.26 | coolprogrammer | hellooo |
| 19:30.27 | juice` | it was easy to extract config file, but it's harder to get initrd modules list |
| 19:30.28 | TMH_ | azeem: well thanks for the ideas. I'll try that. Good evening. |
| 19:30.33 | *** part/#debian TMH_ (n=steve@binaryroulette.com) |
| 19:30.34 | Daantee | hello at yarakları |
| 19:30.36 | Daantee | :D |
| 19:30.38 | coolprogrammer | :D |
| 19:30.44 | Daantee | size demiyom |
| 19:30.46 | Daantee | :D |
| 19:30.47 | coolprogrammer | :D |
| 19:30.47 | Daantee | gavurlara |
| 19:30.49 | Daantee | diom |
| 19:30.49 | coolprogrammer | biliom :D |
| 19:30.50 | azeem | Daantee: please write in english in here |
| 19:30.56 | ucskn | yok ya |
| 19:31.04 | ucskn | amına kodumunun çocuuu |
| 19:31.04 | h3sp4wn | juice`: why did you not just build it with make-kpkg #? |
| 19:31.04 | coolprogrammer | at yaragi means intelligent |
| 19:31.09 | Daantee | yes |
| 19:31.12 | azeem | coolprogrammer, ucskn: you too |
| 19:31.22 | ucskn | siktir lan pazvnk |
| 19:31.24 | Daantee | bu ne sanıyor la kendini |
| 19:31.28 | ucskn | puhahah |
| 19:31.29 | coolprogrammer | :D |
| 19:31.30 | stew | coolprogrammer: do you have a debian related question? |
| 19:31.31 | Daantee | azeem bi careful |
| 19:31.33 | Azar | trolls |
| 19:31.34 | coolprogrammer | yes |
| 19:31.40 | coolprogrammer | can i seek you |
| 19:31.43 | freetos | stew, i might switch to etch as my host os once it's relased, but i like redhat as a host os cause it's solid as a rock |
| 19:31.44 | h3sp4wn | juice`: You could just use mkinitramfs or yaird |
| 19:31.44 | Daantee | trol diyorlar la :D |
| 19:31.44 | *** join/#debian zoldar (i=adrian@adrian.ima.pl) |
| 19:31.46 | ucskn | azar isme bak aq |
| 19:31.51 | coolprogrammer | :D:D |
| 19:31.51 | *** join/#debian JoyFM (n=johannes@dslb-088-072-228-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:31.52 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 19:31.53 | Azar | !ops Dantee ucskn coolprogrammer trolls |
| 19:31.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: azar complains about: Dantee ucskn coolprogrammer trolls |
| 19:31.53 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@88.232.97.152] by azeem |
| 19:31.53 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 19:31.55 | JoyFM | hi |
| 19:31.57 | Daantee | azar anneni götten |
| 19:31.57 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 19:31.57 | juice` | h3sp4wn: didnt know there is something like this |
| 19:31.58 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@88.254.189.109] by azeem |
| 19:31.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 19:32.00 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 19:32.02 | *** part/#debian Saizan (i=saizan@host-84-222-237-146.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 19:32.02 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@88.242.133.28] by azeem |
| 19:32.05 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 19:32.14 | zoldar | what may be the reason of following situation: i do 'cat /dev/ttyS0' on one machine and 'echo -e "test\n" > /dev/ttyS0' on another - one way everything goes through, in opposite direction only first character is displayed. Output of stty and setserial is identical. Any ideas ? |
| 19:32.16 | stew | Azar: when two of us are already engaging them you probably don't need to call other ops |
| 19:32.19 | JoyFM | will the spurious interrupt patch from the 2.6.20.2 kernel been patched into the etch kernel? |
| 19:32.22 | juice` | h3sp4wn: just looking at it right now, i mean on man make-kpkg |
| 19:32.26 | Azar | stew: sorry didn't know azeem can |
| 19:32.31 | *** part/#debian ucskn (n=chatzill@88.242.133.28) |
| 19:32.47 | *** part/#debian Daantee (n=chatzill@88.254.189.109) |
| 19:32.48 | stew | Azar: np |
| 19:32.59 | Azar | thanks azeem |
| 19:33.02 | h3sp4wn | !tell juice` about kp-mantra |
| 19:33.11 | *** part/#debian coolprogrammer (n=chatzill@88.232.97.152) |
| 19:33.34 | wintix | stew, bzed, Vasistha: thank you for your great help |
| 19:33.54 | stew | wintix: don't thank me, just reinstall the box :) |
| 19:34.02 | Vasistha | wintix: np -- glad I got the process started so someone else more knowledgeable could take over :-) |
| 19:34.12 | wintix | stew: will do that, but now i know what was the problem |
| 19:34.30 | bzed | wintix: sure? :D |
| 19:34.37 | juice` | h3sp4wn: nice, thanks. is there page where i can find all mantras/one-liners and such? |
| 19:34.51 | Guerin | !search dpkg |
| 19:34.51 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php |
| 19:34.58 | Guerin | !search dpkg |
| 19:34.58 | bzed | wintix: you probably also want to install a clean version of lsof and run lsof -i to find out if there's anything listening for remote commands |
| 19:35.00 | Guerin | bah |
| 19:35.06 | Guerin | ↑ |
| 19:35.18 | juice` | Guerin: was that for me? |
| 19:35.24 | Guerin | juice`: yesh |
| 19:35.26 | stew | i need to get the web software from ubotu instead of my quickly hacked together site |
| 19:35.30 | juice` | thanks. |
| 19:35.38 | wintix | bzed: yep. will do so. |
| 19:35.38 | abrotman | stew: url ? |
| 19:35.43 | stew | hrm |
| 19:35.45 | *** join/#debian d00d_ (n=d00d_@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 19:35.48 | stew | dunno, its shiny though |
| 19:35.53 | *** join/#debian empath- (n=jonas@c-15dfe255.2412-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:36.06 | abrotman | eh .. okay |
| 19:36.37 | *** join/#debian leonardo_ (n=leonardo@81-174-44-242.f5.ngi.it) |
| 19:37.05 | stew | abrotman: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi |
| 19:37.17 | abrotman | stew: found it .. not that shiny .. could easily be done to yours |
| 19:37.41 | abrotman | stew: yours is actually better IMO .. just not shiny |
| 19:37.42 | *** join/#debian kyaneos (n=kyaneos@84.77.54.128) |
| 19:37.43 | stew | abrotman: awesome, i'll give you the source to mine |
| 19:37.50 | bzed | actually the colours are pretty... *puke* |
| 19:38.41 | JoyFM | is there any page on wich i can see the added and planned patches for the 2.6.18 kernel? |
| 19:38.42 | asg | looks like one of those nasty banana/strawberry fruit chews |
| 19:38.46 | kyaneos | hi |
| 19:39.07 | abrotman | stew: ubotu's doesn't search anything but factoid values |
| 19:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 775] by debhelper |
| 19:40.54 | *** join/#debian jariep1_ (n=jariell@adsl-216-63-175-176.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net) |
| 19:40.59 | jariep1_ | HI ALL |
| 19:41.24 | stew | abrotman: so maybe i just need to bribe rcox to fix mine for me |
| 19:41.49 | abrotman | stew: could probably be easily done ... |
| 19:42.01 | stew | bribing rcox? |
| 19:42.08 | abrotman | sox tix! |
| 19:42.10 | abrotman | :) |
| 19:42.15 | stew | heh |
| 19:43.02 | *** join/#debian leonardo_ (n=leonardo@81-174-44-242.f5.ngi.it) |
| 19:43.15 | *** join/#debian teekay_ (n=teekay@client-81-107-196-6.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 19:45.20 | *** join/#debian bonez41 (n=bonez@c-71-195-250-0.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 19:45.24 | *** join/#debian maman (n=maman@lns-bzn-46-82-253-218-98.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 19:46.32 | *** join/#debian newdebus1 (n=newdebus@p112-18.med.unc.edu) |
| 19:47.11 | *** join/#debian dustybin (i=dustybin@secksy.net) |
| 19:47.43 | *** join/#debian r4nge (i=r4nger@cpe-68-174-189-105.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:48.10 | dustybin | does anybody remember where you can make iptables remember a set of rules after a reboot? |
| 19:48.35 | dkr | iptables-save |
| 19:49.56 | dkr | or just put the rules in an init script, :) |
| 19:49.57 | *** join/#debian xored (n=6931maYe@i3ED6D423.versanet.de) |
| 19:49.57 | dustybin | thnx |
| 19:49.59 | dkr | (have to run iptables-restore after boot to re-run rules saves with iptables-save, btw) it's not automagic |
| 19:50.00 | *** join/#debian wad (n=wad@216.49.181.128) |
| 19:50.28 | juice` | which file would be best to add my own stuff durning boot stage? |
| 19:50.37 | *** join/#debian BUMBACL0T (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 19:50.44 | juice` | i'm always changing bootmisc.sh but it creates problems when this file changes |
| 19:51.19 | juice` | i mean, when it changes in debian package (initscripts) |
| 19:51.45 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (n=jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 19:52.19 | juice` | so when i update, i have message that my version of this file is different and i can loose my own changes or loose debian changes... |
| 19:52.27 | *** join/#debian wait_for_zenka (n=dsfasd@88.235.9.255) |
| 19:53.00 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (n=inimesek@217-159-183-127-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 19:53.05 | juice` | so what file is best to change if i want to add my own stuff durning boot? like iptables rules mentioned above... ? |
| 19:53.22 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (n=master_o@p549D78E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:53.29 | h3sp4wn | juice`: make your own by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/whatever |
| 19:53.38 | *** join/#debian huteouheo (n=huteou@astmatix.ida.liu.se) |
| 19:53.41 | h3sp4wn | juice`: and use update-rc.d to add it to whatever run levels |
| 19:53.54 | h3sp4wn | (after modifying it of course) |
| 19:53.55 | *** join/#debian lechef (i=9qb4hFty@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 19:53.56 | juice` | great, thanks |
| 19:54.01 | juice` | of course :) |
| 19:54.15 | juice` | or i can just add my own script, it doesnt have to be from skeleton, right? |
| 19:54.19 | apk | is /etc/init.d/bootup part of debian, or did I add that? |
| 19:54.44 | *** join/#debian newdebusr (n=newdebus@p112-18.med.unc.edu) |
| 19:54.50 | Eulex | !tell apk about search |
| 19:54.57 | h3sp4wn | juice`: skeleton gives you the start / stop etc parts for it |
| 19:55.04 | juice` | apk: i think you added it |
| 19:55.08 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps |
| 19:55.25 | asg | !peeps |
| 19:55.25 | dpkg | i guess peeps is a marshmallow chick product by Just Born, http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com There have been no confirmed sightings of these marshmallows on IRC, so anyone asking for them is being optimistic at best. stick them in the microwave for 30 seconds for a yummy treat. The Unofficial Peeps FAQ is available at (http://www.geekbabe.com/peeps/peepfaq.html) |
| 19:55.26 | bbelt16ag | can k3b open up .iso and .cue files? and let me pick out the files of it? |
| 19:55.46 | juice` | h3sp4wn: i know, but will this script be called with start/stop arguments durning boot if i do what you describe? |
| 19:55.52 | bbelt16ag | hey now dont be burnin the peeps |
| 19:56.00 | h3sp4wn | juice`: Yep |
| 19:56.04 | *** part/#debian Sjord (n=Sjoerd@d146152.upc-d.chello.nl) |
| 19:56.16 | h3sp4wn | juice`: (just get rid of the parts you don't need reload etc) |
| 19:56.19 | juice` | h3sp4wn: so i guess i can't just use some simple script, unless it supports start/stop arguments |
| 19:56.22 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 19:57.02 | juice` | skeleton has so many strange lines i don't need |
| 19:57.22 | h3sp4wn | juice`: You can just get rid of the sections you don't need and put what you want into start |
| 19:57.30 | S2AnGeL | If I need a package cpp-4.0 how do find a repository to get this package (from my etch) |
| 19:57.30 | juice` | ok. thanks. |
| 19:57.31 | *** join/#debian adioe3 (i=johnnydo@217.199.141.106) |
| 19:57.46 | h3sp4wn | or you can use /etc/rc.local but that is an old bsd thing that is supposed to be depreciated for ages now |
| 19:57.50 | *** join/#debian Xanos (n=mind@85.239.154.50) |
| 19:57.51 | *** join/#debian yage (n=dirkdigg@242-178-119-85.dyn1.digitaleitalia.it) |
| 19:58.23 | yage | How can i disable password change for a user (or for all users)?? I have disabled passwords and i don't want users to restore/change them |
| 19:58.34 | bbelt16ag | sigh i take it it cant do that |
| 19:58.40 | stew | h3sp4wn: hard to imagine that its really deprecated, since sarge didn't have it. its new in etch |
| 19:58.45 | bbelt16ag | is there anyways to open .cue files in linux |
| 19:59.21 | asg | yage: remove the suid bit from the passwd binary |
| 19:59.21 | *** join/#debian Jussi (n=jussi@port190.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:59.21 | *** join/#debian damencho (n=damencho@damencho.com) |
| 19:59.43 | yage | asg: wow, nice idea |
| 20:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 783] by debhelper |
| 20:00.03 | S2AnGeL | can I use ubuntu repositories? |
| 20:00.49 | stew | S2AnGeL: we'd certainly try to convince you not to install ubuntu binaries on debian. you could "backport" them from source though: "/msg dpkg simple sid backport" but use ubuntu sources instead of debian sources |
| 20:01.01 | h3sp4wn | stew: interesting - I don't think its a good idea though (encourages lazyness) |
| 20:01.15 | *** join/#debian empath--- (n=jonas@c-73dae255.2412-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:02.00 | S2AnGeL | I just want a link on how to understand how to read and understand the sources.list and how to search for files I need when its nessary like this cpp-4.0 I need at the moment |
| 20:02.24 | asg | yage: it would probably also be a good idea to mv /usr/bin/passwd /usr/bin/passwd.real also and write /usr/bin/passwd wrapper shell that informs the user they can't change their passwd |
| 20:02.26 | r4nge | i've been searching and searching but cant get a clear explanation... i have a domain (www.example.com) pointing to the ip of my postfix server, and have set the mx record for the domain to (q0.example.com), now when running dpkg-reconfigure where do these two addresses go, or where do they go in the main.cf |
| 20:02.42 | *** join/#debian dsilva (n=username@c-66-31-42-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:03.02 | S2AnGeL | be nice to know where what repository I am getting a certain program from .. apt-cache does it have anway to do that when searching |
| 20:03.17 | yage | asg: users have password disabled, they can log in only using keys |
| 20:03.18 | asg | S2AnGeL: apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 20:03.25 | *** join/#debian cast__ (n=cast@121.45.112.64) |
| 20:03.29 | yage | asg: and i don't want to disable password auth on sshd |
| 20:03.44 | yage | asg: so, no need for wrappers |
| 20:03.55 | asg | yage: fair enough |
| 20:04.00 | S2AnGeL | thanks.. |
| 20:04.03 | *** part/#debian bbelt16ag (n=erin@30.156.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 20:04.10 | yage | asg: :) |
| 20:05.19 | *** part/#debian damencho (n=damencho@damencho.com) |
| 20:05.24 | *** join/#debian ldexter (n=ldexter@adsl-065-006-163-043.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:06.15 | h3sp4wn | S2AnGeL: If you absolutely need 4.0 (4.1 won't work) check snapshot.debian.net |
| 20:06.42 | h3sp4wn | !tell S2AnGeL about s.d.n |
| 20:06.54 | *** join/#debian freezombie (i=9g87G0zL@tuxhacker/free-zombie) |
| 20:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 20:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 20:07.49 | *** join/#debian orko_ (n=mirko@p57bbcba4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:08.31 | orko_ | hi. i have a via epia sp13000 which prebuild kernel fist this board? in the -686 build CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set |
| 20:08.40 | *** join/#debian JBGood25 (n=jbauman@208.101.160.171.dynamic.dejazzd.com) |
| 20:09.09 | h3sp4wn | orko_: 486 |
| 20:09.46 | orko_ | h3sp4wn: hwo can is see without installing that there this flagis set? |
| 20:09.55 | *** join/#debian character (n=lsmith@192.135.141.99) |
| 20:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 773] by debhelper |
| 20:10.01 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (n=DarkCow@85-210-7-138.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 20:10.12 | h3sp4wn | orko_: what are you running now ? |
| 20:10.18 | orko_ | 686 |
| 20:10.20 | *** join/#debian d00d (n=d00d@c-24-126-43-96.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 20:10.25 | orko_ | but is freezes from time to time. |
| 20:10.38 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (n=Count_fu@83-71-70-17.b-ras1.prp.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 20:10.41 | h3sp4wn | there is one 686 instruction that via doesn't impliment (its supposed to be optional) |
| 20:11.07 | h3sp4wn | hence if you want a debian kernel you should use 486 or make your own |
| 20:11.27 | orko_ | h3sp4wn, ok. i will frist try the 486. i think that will be ok. |
| 20:12.36 | *** join/#debian wintix (n=wintix@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 20:13.32 | orko_ | h3sp4wn, thanks. cu |
| 20:13.32 | *** join/#debian peppe (i=proxyuse@dhcp-131-114-3-71.di.unipi.it) |
| 20:13.51 | *** join/#debian os|t0 (n=freenode@etch.debian.ipv6.osonet.org) |
| 20:14.23 | *** join/#debian McGee (n=rootgauf@p5495448A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:14.59 | *** part/#debian os|t0 (n=freenode@etch.debian.ipv6.osonet.org) |
| 20:16.43 | wintix | in what package are things like top, ps and ls included? |
| 20:17.13 | _kaiser_ | hello, could someone tell me how to delete all the files that don't match, say "ls *.txt" -- thus delete all non-text files... |
| 20:17.14 | *** join/#debian dubbaluga (n=dubbalug@h081217087192.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 20:17.14 | _kaiser_ | ? |
| 20:17.43 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (n=inimesek@217-159-183-127-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 20:17.50 | *** join/#debian Zeit|idle (n=wurscht@p54A7B419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:18.19 | apk | rm $(ls -1 | grep -v \.txt$) |
| 20:18.22 | h3sp4wn | wintix: procps / coreutils / psmisc |
| 20:18.37 | *** join/#debian kromagg (n=kromagg@231.163-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:18.38 | h3sp4wn | wintix: use dpkg -S `which command` to search for them |
| 20:19.11 | apk | _kaiser_: I'd make sure you understand that before you run it - I don't promise it won't delete stuff you don't want it to. |
| 20:19.23 | *** join/#debian visik7 (n=visi@host96-108-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:19.27 | wintix | h3sp4wn: thank you. |
| 20:20.10 | *** join/#debian yos87 (n=1033A01D@dxb-as83281.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 20:20.16 | _kaiser_ | apk: thanks, I'll try it out. |
| 20:20.44 | *** join/#debian tb0301s (n=sowa@brln-4db1110d.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 20:20.48 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl (n=az@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl) |
| 20:20.58 | yos87 | hi |
| 20:21.33 | Ankman | hi |
| 20:22.06 | *** join/#debian jcdury (n=jcdury@55.Red-217-127-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:22.18 | cusco | dudes!!! I have a hd tv 27 inches... any idea in how to reconfigure xorg to use 1366*768 resolution? |
| 20:22.31 | cusco | it says thats what the tv panel is |
| 20:23.55 | xand | cusco: edit your xorg.conf file or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:24.31 | *** join/#debian merhojt (n=Jimmy@h27n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 20:24.35 | dury | hi there channel :) |
| 20:25.01 | dury | still can't configure the sound card in this box running bedian 3.1 sarge |
| 20:25.17 | dury | sorry debian |
| 20:26.25 | *** join/#debian sabbat (n=sabbat@203-206-125-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 20:27.03 | *** part/#debian wintix (n=wintix@static.88-198-5-81.clients.your-server.de) |
| 20:28.59 | dury | wols: are you there |
| 20:30.38 | *** join/#debian master_o1_master (n=master_o@p549D73C7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:31.23 | dury | dpkg: 2,4 alsa one-liner |
| 20:31.34 | dury | dpkg: 2.4 alsa one-liner |
| 20:31.34 | dpkg | it has been said that 2.4 alsa one-liner is to install alsa on a 2.4 kernel: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-modules-$(uname -r) && alsaconf ; if you are using a 2.6 kernel ask me about <alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 20:31.39 | streuner | dury: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 20:32.04 | dury | hang on |
| 20:32.08 | dury | now |
| 20:32.10 | streuner | dury: if you using a 2.4.x kernel, just install a 2.6.x kernel |
| 20:32.19 | streuner | and run 'alsaconf' as root |
| 20:32.32 | streuner | make sure you haven't any OSS modules loaded |
| 20:34.01 | *** join/#debian EmxBA (i=emx@ubuntu/member/emxba) |
| 20:34.29 | *** part/#debian EmxBA (i=emx@ubuntu/member/emxba) |
| 20:34.34 | dury | streuner: how to install 2.6.x kernel -> as root apt-get install 2.6 kernel |
| 20:34.46 | dury | how? |
| 20:35.02 | cusco | xand: been there done that |
| 20:35.24 | cusco | reconfiguring xserver-xorg shows no option for 1366*768 |
| 20:35.47 | cusco | edited xorg.conf but gnome shows no such option afterwards |
| 20:35.57 | *** join/#debian holycow (n=hello@mail.wjsgroup.com) |
| 20:36.14 | x_link | hrmm I really can't find on the debian.org site where to download the different versions. |
| 20:36.28 | xand | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.37 | xand | do you have a line like that? put the resolution at the start |
| 20:36.40 | cusco | let me show you my line |
| 20:36.40 | *** join/#debian ole (n=olemoudi@62.Red-83-43-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:36.42 | cusco | yes |
| 20:36.48 | *** join/#debian rshakin (i=rshakin@netblock-66-245-212-6.dslextreme.com) |
| 20:36.59 | rshakin | hey ppl |
| 20:37.05 | xand | check the X log to see if it tried that res but didn't like it |
| 20:37.18 | cusco | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.22 | cusco | ok hold |
| 20:37.28 | lando | ~/exit |
| 20:37.36 | x_link | Could somebody give me the url where I can download sid, sarge, etch? |
| 20:37.36 | rshakin | 3any ideason this CPU[0]: Correctable ECC Error AFSR[100000] |
| 20:37.36 | dury | streuner: are you there |
| 20:37.36 | lando | woopsie |
| 20:37.46 | x_link | I had it saved in my Bookmarks before, but I can't find it now |
| 20:37.53 | *** part/#debian jlhenry (n=jlhenry@142.213.254.2) |
| 20:37.57 | dury | streuner: how to install 2.6.x kernel -> as root apt-get install 2.6 kernel |
| 20:38.02 | azeem | how can I tell exim4 not to use smtp-auth? |
| 20:38.04 | rshakin | this is on a sparc |
| 20:38.08 | dury | or how is it |
| 20:38.24 | *** join/#debian juice` (n=juice@dmm247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 20:38.34 | *** join/#debian ole (n=olemoudi@62.Red-83-43-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:38.40 | *** join/#debian qRohde (n=KR-data@ip-20-168.bnaa.dk) |
| 20:38.55 | defcon8 | has google search bar gheyed up for anyone with iceweasel? |
| 20:38.58 | juice` | i compile kernel source with make-kpkg and 50% of my cpu is idle, and i have 2-core intel duo proc, any idea how to change that? |
| 20:39.17 | juice` | probably one of my cores is not being used |
| 20:39.37 | juice` | the kernel i'm using has SMP, so i dont know whats going on |
| 20:39.44 | *** join/#debian zamuro (n=FlavorFl@190.38.88.6) |
| 20:39.49 | Azar | dury: apt-cache search kernel-image ... see which 2.6.8 fits your cpu type (k7 is for amd), note that line then: aptitude upgrade kernel-image-2.6.8-xxxx.xxxx.xxxx < |
| 20:39.53 | cusco | xand: is it the "write combining range? |
| 20:40.06 | cusco | WW) fglrx(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xef000000,0xfe0000 |
| 20:40.11 | cusco | there are a few more like this |
| 20:40.14 | cusco | other than that... |
| 20:40.43 | qRohde | ok I got a D-Link DGE-530t gigabit adapter I'm trying to install, since I can't find any kernel-drivers per default I found the sk98lin on D-Links page, but it won't compile, so what do I do? |
| 20:40.44 | *** join/#debian mfi_ (i=mfi@posix.unixnetwork.net) |
| 20:41.10 | xand | er |
| 20:41.11 | *** part/#debian Vasistha (n=david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 20:41.23 | juice` | Azar: i have 2.6.18-686 installed, is it the right one? |
| 20:41.29 | streuner | azeem: how about to ask 'Zugschlus'? |
| 20:41.49 | Azar | juice`: that was for dury, are you running Debian Etch ? (testing) ? |
| 20:41.58 | *** join/#debian si0ux (n=si0ux@carol-200-225-216-097.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) |
| 20:42.11 | juice` | Azar:no, unstable |
| 20:42.19 | streuner | dury: run 'apt-cache search linux-image-2.6' and pick one image you need |
| 20:42.44 | juice` | which one i need if i have intel core duo? there is no linux-image-2.6-intel-core-duo |
| 20:42.47 | Azar | juice`: unstable is an unknown for me.... is eh unstable. You could apt-cache search linux-image to see if you got the right arch for your cpu |
| 20:43.34 | Azar | juice`: no but it has some identification name |
| 20:43.40 | tomdick | juice`: 686 |
| 20:44.00 | juice` | i have 686, and it is not using 100% cpu |
| 20:44.02 | *** join/#debian SeNsEi_SaMe (n=asd@ip-17-132.sn1.eutelia.it) |
| 20:44.05 | SeNsEi_SaMe | hi ppl |
| 20:44.10 | cusco | hi |
| 20:44.22 | juice` | vmlinuz -> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 20:44.36 | juice` | this is the one i'm using. so i'm using the right one. |
| 20:44.52 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 20:44.53 | *** join/#debian krazykit_ (n=krazykit@adsl-70-236-31-22.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:44.54 | h3sp4wn | juice`: gcc won't have full core 2 support until gcc-4.3 |
| 20:45.25 | JoyFM | is there anybody how knows what is been planned for the stable kernel from etch? |
| 20:45.32 | juice` | h3sp4wn: meaning, other core is not usable under linux right now? |
| 20:45.37 | xand | JoyFM: what? |
| 20:45.50 | Azar | JoyFM: 2.6.18 is the official |
| 20:45.53 | streuner | JoyFM: 2.6.18 would be the default kernel |
| 20:46.03 | xand | cusco: you could try removing everything but the desired resolution from that line |
| 20:46.11 | h3sp4wn | juice`: I missread what you said - I ment support for sse3 etc |
| 20:46.11 | JoyFM | i mean patches |
| 20:46.13 | tomdick | juice`: linux can handle dual-proc just fine |
| 20:46.23 | JoyFM | becouse there are a lot of problem with sata and raid |
| 20:46.26 | Azar | JoyFM: the kernel is ready |
| 20:46.27 | cusco | hmm ok |
| 20:46.33 | JoyFM | Azar hmm bad |
| 20:46.36 | juice` | so what could be my problem, if i'm compiling linux and one core is idle |
| 20:46.44 | juice` | and i have right kernel (686) |
| 20:46.45 | xand | juice`: does "uname -a" mention SMP? |
| 20:46.50 | juice` | yes |
| 20:46.52 | h3sp4wn | juice`: using what concurrency level ? |
| 20:46.53 | xand | well that's fine then. |
| 20:47.05 | juice` | h3sp4wn: what's that? |
| 20:47.12 | *** join/#debian xored (n=6931maYe@i3ED6D423.versanet.de) |
| 20:47.16 | JoyFM | becouse the 2.6.20.2 has a pathc wich could be resolv my problem |
| 20:47.20 | juice` | h3sp4wn: i just use make-kpkg to build kernel |
| 20:47.22 | JoyFM | but i think debian is the most stable |
| 20:47.28 | JoyFM | and so i don't know what to do |
| 20:47.31 | *** join/#debian jjon (n=jjon@adsl-75-32-149-194.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:47.31 | tomdick | juice`: linux is using both processors |
| 20:47.36 | Azar | JoyFM: try using backports... |
| 20:47.42 | rahul | JoyFM: apply just that patch to the debian kernel source and build? |
| 20:47.47 | juice` | tomdick: but 50% of my cpu is idle, that's what top is showing |
| 20:47.52 | h3sp4wn | juice`: if you build with say make -j5 normally - the make-kpkg equicalent is -export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=5; make-kpkg ...... |
| 20:47.56 | juice` | tomdick: durning linux compilation |
| 20:48.13 | rahul | juice`: so use multithreaded applications |
| 20:48.18 | h3sp4wn | juice`: Then it will use 5 threads (should use both cores) |
| 20:48.21 | juice` | h3sp4wn: so what level i use, if i didnt change default values? |
| 20:48.23 | rahul | oh, never mind |
| 20:48.29 | *** join/#debian LeVA (n=leva@dsl540211A9.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 20:48.33 | h3sp4wn | juice`: 1 |
| 20:48.38 | JoyFM | rahul i think the debian package build is complicated ;) |
| 20:48.46 | JoyFM | bug#7996 <- that could be the one |
| 20:48.47 | rahul | JoyFM: you think wrong |
| 20:48.56 | tomdick | more like juice`: 1, #debian: 0 |
| 20:48.56 | *** join/#debian lazy_bonobo (n=k@h46-5.reznet.ucalgary.ca) |
| 20:48.59 | juice` | h4sp4wn: oh so thats the problem... how to change conurenncy level again? |
| 20:49.09 | dury | my cpu it's simply pentium 166 Mhz |
| 20:49.10 | x_link | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ What's the difference there between etch rc1 and rc2_test ? |
| 20:49.13 | rahul | JoyFM: it's simpler than building the kernel directly in the sources |
| 20:49.14 | JoyFM | i'm using arch on my home desktop and thats why i know whats KISS is ;) |
| 20:49.24 | Azar | JoyFM: see if it has been closed/patched |
| 20:49.30 | JoyFM | abs+pacman are the best tools in the world |
| 20:49.34 | JoyFM | *g* |
| 20:49.40 | JoyFM | but debian is more stable! |
| 20:49.47 | dury | which kernel should I choose |
| 20:49.47 | h3sp4wn | juice`: export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=5; make-kpkg ...... |
| 20:49.56 | rahul | 5 seems excessive |
| 20:50.02 | bzed | JoyFM: 7996? that' uhm... a 10 years old bug |
| 20:50.03 | rahul | for dual-core, I'd use 3, maybe 4 |
| 20:50.04 | juice` | ah sorry, didnt understand the '-' but it was just part of your sentence. thanks |
| 20:50.11 | juice` | h3sp4wn: i will try that |
| 20:50.20 | JoyFM | my probelm is i get a lot of "ata3: spurious interrupt (irq ...)" |
| 20:50.34 | juice` | h3sp4wn: it should be changed to at least 2 i think :) |
| 20:50.43 | JoyFM | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.20.2 <- <bzed> JoyFM: 7996? that' uhm... a 10 years old bug |
| 20:50.47 | rahul | JoyFM: so patch the kernel and rebuild. what's the big deal? |
| 20:50.53 | JoyFM | i thought 2.6.20.2 is one of the newest ;) |
| 20:51.13 | Azar | ....with bugs |
| 20:51.14 | bzed | JoyFM: bug#7996 <- that could be the one !? #7996 is 10 years old |
| 20:51.21 | Azar | the newest, the buggyest |
| 20:51.29 | JoyFM | i know |
| 20:51.36 | JoyFM | but linux is always buggi ;) |
| 20:51.46 | JoyFM | but i don't know enough about bsd ^^ |
| 20:51.52 | bzed | lol, bsd sucks |
| 20:51.58 | JoyFM | but its more stable |
| 20:52.05 | JoyFM | and it sounds intesting |
| 20:52.15 | Azar | debian developers worked more than five months to straighten up 2.6.18. It's a lot of work, not our fault they came up now with 2.6.20 |
| 20:52.16 | bzed | juice`: you don't wanna use concurrency.... to build a linux kernel. it inly rises the chances that somethign will fail |
| 20:52.18 | *** join/#debian TerminX (i=3fa5e7e2@adsl-68-122-2-87.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 20:52.35 | juice` | bzed: not even 2 ? |
| 20:52.39 | *** join/#debian Firestarter- (n=Firestar@cpe-74-70-118-244.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:52.48 | JoyFM | Azar but i don't know how to use the debian build system |
| 20:52.51 | *** join/#debian rtmex (n=jirc@189.130.194.28) |
| 20:53.00 | JoyFM | is are there config file for the build process |
| 20:53.05 | JoyFM | (like in abs from arch) ? |
| 20:53.06 | bzed | juice`: I don't trust make -j, it may work, or not |
| 20:53.11 | *** part/#debian rtmex (n=jirc@189.130.194.28) |
| 20:53.13 | JoyFM | or gentoo ebuild (but more sply ;)) |
| 20:53.23 | bzed | !tell JoyFM abotu make-kpkg |
| 20:53.29 | x_link | Could someone help me to find the latets Debian Sid? I can just find from 2005. |
| 20:53.37 | dustybin | im trying to VNC over SSH without success. I can VNC into my target machine ok with: vncviewer 192.168.0.3::5900. I ssh onto the target machine with ssh -L 5901:localhost:5900 mythtv@192.168.0.3. However if i try vncviewer localhost::5900 it doesnt connect and if i telnet localhost 5900 it also refuses to connect. Ive turned off iptables. does anybody know what the problem might be? |
| 20:53.41 | Azar | JoyFM: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 20:53.41 | bzed | !tell JoyFM about make-kpkg |
| 20:53.50 | *** join/#debian filipe_ (n=filipe@rembrandt.bmc.uu.se) |
| 20:54.00 | dury | streuner: help please |
| 20:54.17 | bzed | dustybin: on which display is vnc runniing on the remote machine? |
| 20:54.25 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (n=Count_fu@83-71-70-17.b-ras1.prp.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 20:54.26 | *** join/#debian p4tux (n=p4tux@189.169.92.235) |
| 20:54.29 | rahul | hmm, strange happenings |
| 20:54.32 | dustybin | erm let me check |
| 20:54.34 | *** join/#debian Mr-R (n=rex@p508FA2BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:54.35 | streuner | dury: run 'apt-cache search linux-image-2.6' and pick one image you need |
| 20:54.36 | rahul | blame it on the camel |
| 20:54.53 | Azar | streuner: he uses pentium 166... which one could be? |
| 20:54.59 | juice` | is it possible that building 2.6.20 kernel with make-kpkg is failing becouse this is too new kernel? |
| 20:55.09 | bzed | juice`: no, it just works well |
| 20:55.20 | dury | apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 doesn't search |
| 20:55.26 | streuner | Azar: i386, but i wouldn't use a 2.6.x kernel then |
| 20:55.30 | rahul | the last chord of a song hit and my laptop's screen unblanked. |
| 20:55.32 | juice` | bzed: it drops me to initramfs or something like that :/ |
| 20:55.33 | Azar | dury: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 20:55.38 | streuner | dury: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 20:55.41 | rahul | creepy shit |
| 20:55.46 | JoyFM | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-ide@vger.kernel.org/msg02607.html <- thats the bug i have |
| 20:55.47 | juice` | bzed: also it tells, 'no lvm groups found' even though i have lvm groups... |
| 20:55.48 | *** join/#debian Thms (n=Thms@AAmiens-153-1-31-176.w90-18.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:55.54 | bzed | juice`: your initrd is broken then |
| 20:55.55 | x_link | bzed: Could you tell me where I could get the latest Debian Sid? |
| 20:55.58 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (n=DarkCow@85-210-7-138.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 20:55.58 | rahul | JoyFM: so apply the patch! |
| 20:56.02 | x_link | I would appreciate it alot |
| 20:56.08 | juice` | bzed: any idea how to solve this? i use debian initrd |
| 20:56.09 | streuner | x_link: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 20:56.15 | x_link | Thanks |
| 20:56.16 | dury | apt-cache search kernel-image that list so many files |
| 20:56.16 | juice` | bzed: just used make-kpkg --initrd |
| 20:56.20 | rahul | JoyFM: or file a bug against the debian kernel and reference that discussion |
| 20:56.22 | bzed | x_link: you do not want to run a whole system on sid. stay with testing |
| 20:56.25 | streuner | Azar: ah, good to know... |
| 20:56.27 | rahul | JoyFM: they'll add the patch to the debian stock kernel |
| 20:56.32 | dustybin | bzed: im not sure how i can find out what display its connecting to, when i connect it doesnt give me any information about displays |
| 20:56.33 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl (n=az@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl) |
| 20:56.39 | x_link | bzed: I just want to test it on this other machine. |
| 20:56.40 | rahul | x_link: you're still asking about sid? |
| 20:56.41 | *** join/#debian Zarla (n=fmb@gwenola.sceen.net) |
| 20:56.47 | Azar | x_link Sid is the ONLY there is no "latest" and why you want Sid for? |
| 20:56.47 | bzed | dustybin: how do you start the vncserver? |
| 20:56.50 | x_link | bzed: I just did a backup on my whole system with Acronis |
| 20:56.59 | bzed | x_link: replace testing by unstable |
| 20:57.08 | dustybin | it starts automatically probably from /etc/init.d |
| 20:57.10 | x_link | naah |
| 20:57.18 | bzed | non dustybin |
| 20:57.19 | x_link | I just want to try it quick, nothing else. |
| 20:57.24 | streuner | dury: how much RAM do you have on that box? |
| 20:57.30 | juice` | bzed: i used whole make-kpkg mantra or whatever it is called, including --initrd line, then installed .deb and it doesnt want to start. any idea how to investigate the issue? |
| 20:57.31 | JoyFM | i'll see |
| 20:57.35 | bzed | x_link: replace testing (or etch, sarge) by unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:57.51 | x_link | ahhh |
| 20:57.51 | *** join/#debian yzrider08 (n=yzrider0@c-76-97-45-182.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:57.52 | yzrider08 | make: make: Command not found |
| 20:57.52 | yzrider08 | make: *** [build] Error 127 |
| 20:57.52 | Azar | x_link: you will not be able to "go back" . If you go to Sid, and later change your mind you will have to reinstal |
| 20:57.59 | yzrider08 | i get these errors when i try to compile something |
| 20:58.01 | yzrider08 | whats that mean |
| 20:58.12 | streuner | Don't make random people use unstable |
| 20:58.15 | bzed | juice`: try update-initramfs to generate a new initrd for your kernel |
| 20:58.19 | x_link | Azar: I will just do a recover from my Acronis cd. |
| 20:58.30 | *** join/#debian bushk (n=onebadas@wel-dhcp-135-35.cm.utexas.edu) |
| 20:58.37 | juice` | bzed: doesnt make-kpkg do it if i use --initrd switch ? |
| 20:58.39 | bzed | yzrider08: apt-get install build-essential |
| 20:58.41 | streuner | !unstable |
| 20:58.41 | dpkg | unstable is, like, the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
| 20:58.44 | Azar | x_link: don't upgrade to sid, if you want a good working stable Debian. |
| 20:58.47 | yzrider08 | bzed: i have it all installed |
| 20:58.52 | yzrider08 | make is working |
| 20:58.53 | bzed | juice`: it should that's why it makes me wonder |
| 20:58.58 | bushk | anybody know of a good xen-on-debian irc server/channel? |
| 20:58.59 | yzrider08 | i can use it on any other makefile |
| 20:59.00 | AgoTheIdler | x_link, use gentoo ;) |
| 20:59.22 | streuner | !gentoosmite AgoThelder |
| 20:59.24 | Azar | x_link if someone conned you by saying "dude sid is cool" you are a dummy to listen to that guy |
| 20:59.48 | bzed | x_link: you jsut don;t want to run id if you don't have any very secial reason for it |
| 20:59.48 | juice` | bzed: well, it just goes to initramfs and shows a lot of errors saying some paths are not readable like /etc and such. when i tried to list /dev/sd* in this initramfs, i didnt get anything |
| 20:59.59 | x_link | bzed: Ok |
| 21:00.02 | x_link | Then I will not try it. |
| 21:00.06 | x_link | I just wanted to try it out. |
| 21:00.11 | *** join/#debian sabbat (n=sabbat@203-206-125-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 21:00.19 | bzed | juice`: sounds like there's lvm or md support missing in your kernel |
| 21:00.27 | bzed | !tell x_link about unstable |
| 21:00.44 | Azar | AgoTheIdler: gentoo: http://www.bash.org/?464385 |
| 21:00.48 | juice` | bzed: don't use any raid, might be lvm issue, but i thought debian is compiling it by default |
| 21:00.57 | juice` | bzed: and i use .config from 2.6.18 |
| 21:01.04 | x_link | bzed: Thanks |
| 21:01.08 | bzed | juice`: well if you compile your own kernel you need to configure it on your own |
| 21:01.16 | x_link | bzed: I just feelt today that I would like to try something else today ;D |
| 21:01.20 | bzed | juice`: the 2.6.18 config should work well, though |
| 21:01.22 | dury | can't type this sign | |
| 21:01.34 | dury | what's the ascii code |
| 21:01.35 | juice` | bzed: exactly, and i'm pretty sure it has lvm as module at least |
| 21:01.41 | dury | gess |
| 21:01.51 | dury | limitations |
| 21:01.57 | streuner | Azar: haha |
| 21:02.01 | dury | help |
| 21:02.07 | Azar | :) |
| 21:02.21 | bzed | juice`: btw, could you mail me a 2.6.18 config, then I don't need to isntall a package, I wanna build a 2.6.20 for debian since a lot of people asked me to do it. I'm runnign a kernel configured especialyl for my system here |
| 21:02.21 | juice` | # grep -i lvm .config |
| 21:02.21 | juice` | # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) |
| 21:02.21 | juice` | backup:~/linux-2.6.20.3# |
| 21:02.38 | juice` | does it mean, that lvm is not turned on or something? |
| 21:02.47 | dury | my cpu pentium 166 Mhz |
| 21:02.53 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:03.09 | robin_sz | shiny |
| 21:03.15 | juice` | bzed: i can mail you, but you could just extract it from debian package with dpkg -x |
| 21:03.27 | dury | which is the 2.6 kernel package for that |
| 21:03.35 | juice` | bzed: dpkg -x ./linux-image-2.6.18 linux-2.6.18 |
| 21:03.50 | bzed | juice`: hmm, yeah, I could just download the packge, true :D |
| 21:04.07 | Supaplex | dury: I still have a 386sx16 :) works great for old dos games that won't play in any emulator |
| 21:04.16 | juice` | bzed: of course no problem, i can mail it to you |
| 21:04.37 | Azar | ok so streuner for dury the ideal kernel on a P 166 is : kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 ? |
| 21:04.40 | bzed | juice`: ah well, too late, the package is jsut installing ;) |
| 21:05.12 | bzed | Azar: I'd build my own one, using the features for small systems (if you know what to configure how) |
| 21:05.21 | streuner | Azar: rather 2.2.26 |
| 21:05.31 | mike1980 | HI guys I have debian on my dell inspiron 8500 the mouse is extremely slow moving when running xorg I have tryed number of thing but nothing seems to speed things up could anyone help please |
| 21:05.42 | Azar | uh so old? |
| 21:05.54 | streuner | well, it uses less RAM... |
| 21:06.06 | streuner | but he could try a 2.4.x kernel then |
| 21:06.09 | Azar | but he already uses 2.4.x.. |
| 21:06.28 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m87.net81-66-199.noos.fr) |
| 21:06.32 | streuner | Azar: good :-) |
| 21:06.33 | juice` | bzed: so any idea what to do if my kernel fails? |
| 21:06.37 | Azar | dury do uname - a and tell us what it say |
| 21:06.42 | Supaplex | panic ;) |
| 21:06.43 | Azar | err uname -a |
| 21:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 21:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 21:07.06 | *** join/#debian Blackhold (n=laura@33.Red-213-98-143.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:07.12 | Azar | dury yyyyyyy..... |
| 21:07.14 | *** part/#debian Blackhold (n=laura@33.Red-213-98-143.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:07.25 | Azar | wake up and tell us |
| 21:07.32 | dury | hang on |
| 21:07.41 | Supaplex | now |
| 21:07.53 | streuner | that's what he said about 30 minutes ago too... :-/ |
| 21:08.17 | *** join/#debian liri (n=liran@212.199.177.203.static.012.net.il) |
| 21:08.26 | streuner | no need we make it faster ;-) |
| 21:08.29 | streuner | !shoot Azar |
| 21:08.36 | Azar | :) |
| 21:08.45 | bzed | juice`: find out why it fails ;) there must be missign something ;) |
| 21:08.50 | dury | 2.4.27-3-386 |
| 21:09.05 | Azar | dury given your ooolllddd cpu that's the best you get |
| 21:09.08 | streuner | dury: What's with OSS? |
| 21:09.09 | juice` | ok rebooting with 2.6.18 ... |
| 21:09.18 | streuner | dury: doesn't OSS not work for you? |
| 21:09.42 | dury | I don't know you make me crazy anyway |
| 21:09.47 | Supaplex | !nuke 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:09.47 | mike1980 | HI guys I have debian on my dell inspiron 8500 the mouse is extremely slow moving when running xorg I have tryed number of thing but nothing seems to speed things up could anyone help please |
| 21:09.48 | Azar | ;) |
| 21:09.50 | *** join/#debian liri (n=liran@212.199.177.203.static.012.net.il) |
| 21:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 763] by debhelper |
| 21:10.06 | Azar | ok Dury you run Debian sarge with the best kernel possible for your cpu, what is your pain? |
| 21:10.07 | streuner | dury: sorry, ONE guy is enough in order to help you |
| 21:10.36 | Supaplex | !fix mike1980's mouse |
| 21:10.45 | mike1980 | lol |
| 21:10.56 | rahul | mike1980: man xset |
| 21:10.57 | *** join/#debian Savar (n=s@e178212224.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:10.58 | *** join/#debian Revenger (n=juergen@adsl-070-154-162-252.sip.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:10.59 | Supaplex | you might try mouse acceleration |
| 21:11.16 | dury | Azar: it's the bloody sound card that can't work |
| 21:11.24 | mike1980 | rahul: Tryed didn't do nything |
| 21:11.27 | mike1980 | rahul: Tryed didn't do nything |
| 21:11.31 | mike1980 | rahul: Tryed didn't do anything |
| 21:11.33 | bzed | mike1980: most window managers provide a mouse config in their settings somewhere |
| 21:11.42 | Supaplex | sound cards don't usually feature blood. I think that's your problem. ;) |
| 21:11.50 | rahul | mike1980: uh, that's really strange |
| 21:11.51 | mike1980 | Kde windows tool did nothing also |
| 21:11.58 | bzed | uh? |
| 21:12.06 | rahul | mike1980: it should have SOME effect |
| 21:12.06 | mike1980 | yep |
| 21:12.16 | moprilo | hi guys,.. i have vncserver installed, but its opening the ports only on 127.0.0.1, and not to the outside (local ip).. where can i change that? |
| 21:12.44 | streuner | dury: ok, use kmuto's HCL, it find for you the right driver and you just need to modprobe those... |
| 21:12.47 | streuner | !hcl |
| 21:12.47 | dpkg | hcl is, like, at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, or http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ |
| 21:12.48 | *** join/#debian alindeman (i=adml@freenode/staff/alindeman) |
| 21:12.58 | bzed | mike1980: control center -> preipherals -> mouse, changing the accelleration there results in nothing? |
| 21:13.04 | mike1980 | rahul: what should I use to try a man set command? I will try agan |
| 21:13.07 | streuner | dury: visit kmuto's website and follow those instructions |
| 21:13.22 | mike1980 | bzed: no luck there too |
| 21:13.24 | bzed | moprilo: you don't you use ssh to connect to that machine and forward the ports |
| 21:13.42 | bzed | moprilo: vnc is a security rish if you share it with the world |
| 21:13.53 | rahul | mike1980: xset works for me. the kde tool should be using the same mechanism underneath. not sure what's going on with your mouse... |
| 21:13.59 | dustybin | if i forward a port with ssh and try to connect to that forward port with telnet, the remote terminal displays this: channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused and this machine responds with telnet error 'Connection closed by foreign host.' |
| 21:14.04 | dustybin | are there any configs in debian etch what stop port forwarding in ssh? |
| 21:14.31 | *** join/#debian t0h (n=tommi@dsl-kvlmmlgw1-feb7fa00-204.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:14.55 | mike1980 | what should I set with xset to make it realy fast 3 3 or something |
| 21:15.02 | moprilo | nop.. i don-t use ssh |
| 21:15.03 | moprilo | jeje |
| 21:15.14 | moprilo | but in the mean while.. |
| 21:15.22 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@unaffiliated/ofer0) |
| 21:15.28 | moprilo | is there a way to open those vnc ports to the outside? |
| 21:15.32 | dury | no debian in this computer |
| 21:16.03 | dury | I will install featherlinux it detects all devices in this box |
| 21:16.12 | mike1980 | xset man 3 3 ? |
| 21:16.58 | streuner | !customer |
| 21:16.58 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 21:17.34 | mike1980 | with XFree86 My mouse seems to be fast but totally slow on xorg |
| 21:17.35 | Ronin | bet they come back :) |
| 21:17.59 | streuner | not really, they understand or not... |
| 21:18.28 | Ronin | streuner: that will be a not then i suspect |
| 21:18.29 | *** join/#debian p4tux (n=p4tux@189.169.92.235) |
| 21:18.30 | *** join/#debian cookoo (n=user@c-68-61-112-197.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:18.33 | rahul | xset m 3 5 |
| 21:18.36 | rahul | that's what I use |
| 21:18.38 | streuner | its not really fun on a CPU 166 Mhz to run Debian at all |
| 21:18.49 | Ronin | wow? im impressed they tried actually |
| 21:19.04 | Coweater | beats 90 mhz |
| 21:19.15 | cookoo | whats the best way to configure 2 machines to use a sound card on a third machine |
| 21:19.21 | mike1980 | well I just did "xset m 1 10" and it did not speed anything up at all |
| 21:19.48 | cookoo | and also the framebuffer in menu.lst worked on my video issue so thanks who ever |
| 21:19.49 | *** join/#debian clayasaurus (n=chatzill@199.17.174.180) |
| 21:19.49 | mike1980 | this is driving me crazy |
| 21:19.51 | bzed | cookoo: network sounds daemon |
| 21:20.17 | streuner | bzed: ok, explain those 166 Mhz users why GNOME or KDE run so slow then ;-) |
| 21:20.24 | cookoo | i will check now thank you |
| 21:20.33 | streuner | bzed: or any modern browsers |
| 21:21.02 | cookoo | im running 2.6 kde on a 366 oc'd to 450 its awsome |
| 21:21.23 | mike1980 | my hand is hurting from all these tiny mouse movements |
| 21:21.38 | bzed | cookoo: pulseaudio-esound-compat for example |
| 21:21.49 | streuner | cookoo: you get a really cheap box with more than 750 Mhz second hand |
| 21:21.50 | bzed | streuner: because those coders have way to modern machines. |
| 21:21.51 | *** join/#debian cmatei (n=cmatei@89.136.185.113) |
| 21:22.06 | streuner | x86 is really cheap nowadays |
| 21:22.09 | bzed | streuner: build E17 from svn/cvs if you want something fast |
| 21:22.39 | cookoo | the box im on now is nforce2 xp2800 with sata raid1 |
| 21:23.17 | mike1980 | any othere takers want to help with my screwed up mouse |
| 21:23.34 | mike1980 | !nike mouse |
| 21:23.34 | dpkg | just do it mouse |
| 21:23.37 | *** join/#debian Moorenkopf (n=Moorenko@p50887F83.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:23.38 | streuner | on another box 'WinChip' 233 Mhz it took 30 min. to load Knoppix |
| 21:23.46 | mike1980 | !nuke mouse |
| 21:23.57 | *** join/#debian fujihc (n=stefano@host203-163-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:24.03 | cookoo | the 450mgz machine is for learning networking on i got a 666 mghz celery also |
| 21:24.07 | scv | WinChip? Cyrix? |
| 21:24.23 | scv | or IDT? |
| 21:24.44 | mike1980 | !crazy |
| 21:24.44 | dpkg | you so cuhraaazy, mike1980 |
| 21:25.20 | streuner | scv: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinChip |
| 21:25.34 | mike1980 | can I run KDE 3.5 with xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:26.11 | *** join/#debian wils0n__01 (n=craig@emsworth.cs.vt.edu) |
| 21:26.24 | mike1980 | !xset |
| 21:26.26 | lunitik | mike1980: sure |
| 21:26.44 | lunitik | mike1980: stop playing with the bot |
| 21:27.03 | *** join/#debian poncha (n=poncha@bzq-84-108-132-38.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 21:27.03 | mike1980 | Lunitik: is it hard to change from xorg to xfree86 |
| 21:27.18 | lunitik | !tell mike1980 about xfree->xorg |
| 21:27.52 | mike1980 | mr bot are you there |
| 21:28.39 | scv | streuner: oh, I think that cpu is older than me |
| 21:28.41 | *** join/#debian Coracinus (i=Leo@81.169.234.249) |
| 21:28.56 | streuner | scv: about 10 years old? ;-) |
| 21:29.00 | mike1980 | !tell xorg->xfree86 |
| 21:29.08 | nivanson | mike1980: you can "play" with the bot in a private conversation |
| 21:29.16 | streuner | scv: well, those CPU's are VERY reliable |
| 21:29.27 | mike1980 | ah ok sorry guys didn't know that |
| 21:29.29 | *** join/#debian chromosome (n=dan@87.120.60.44) |
| 21:29.30 | Coracinus | Hello |
| 21:29.41 | lunitik | apt: tell mike1980 about xfree->xorg |
| 21:29.44 | Coracinus | I have a little understanding problem: I'm running proftpd on debian with mysql authentication. The process runs as unpriviliged user, but when I log in with a users from the database a new child process of proftpd spawns owned by a different user. Where is this user specified? |
| 21:30.00 | lunitik | UGH... who deleted the factoid?!?! |
| 21:30.01 | mike1980 | Lunitik: thanks |
| 21:30.15 | lunitik | dpkg: xfree->xorg |
| 21:30.27 | *** part/#debian cahoot (n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 21:30.31 | mike1980 | No, mike1980, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 21:30.36 | *** join/#debian b52laptop (n=mohammed@adsl196-87-103-217-196.adsl196-12.iam.net.ma) |
| 21:31.10 | bzed | mike1980: are you runnign etch? |
| 21:31.39 | scv | streuner: iirc, IDT+Cyrix = VIA |
| 21:31.52 | bzed | !tell mike about sarge->etch |
| 21:31.53 | streuner | lunitik: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=xfree-%3Exorg&term=key |
| 21:31.56 | mike1980 | bzed: yes |
| 21:32.10 | bzed | mike1980: xorg or xfree? |
| 21:32.19 | mike1980 | bzed: Xorg |
| 21:32.36 | *** join/#debian talisein (n=talisein@pdpc/supporter/student/talisein) |
| 21:32.39 | bzed | mike1980: which kind of mouse are you using? |
| 21:34.48 | lunitik | streuner: it used to describe the issues switching between the two (something to do with fonts if I recall?) ... issues eleviated? |
| 21:34.48 | streuner | scv: "In 1999, the Centaur Technology division of IDT was sold to VIA§ |
| 21:34.49 | lunitik | alleviated* |
| 21:34.49 | *** join/#debian jair (n=jair@adsl-75-21-74-76.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:34.49 | mike1980 | bzed: I am uding a built in mouse on a dell inspiron 8500 |
| 21:34.50 | mike1980 | bzed: laptop |
| 21:34.50 | bzed | !tell mike1980 about synaptics |
| 21:34.50 | lunitik | built in mouse == touchpad I take it |
| 21:34.51 | streuner | scv: "Although VIA initially branded processors as "Cyrix," the company used the WinChip technology in its Cyrix III line.§ |
| 21:34.51 | mike1980 | lunitik: yes correct |
| 21:34.52 | *** join/#debian k0p (n=kop@bl8-164-59.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 21:34.57 | mike1980 | bzed: ok thanks I bet ya that will fix this I will give it try |
| 21:35.01 | mike1980 | thanks guys |
| 21:35.56 | streuner | scv: anyway, i like those CPU's, because they are very reliable and cheap |
| 21:36.04 | *** join/#debian ben_goodger (n=ben@host86-147-250-16.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:36.14 | *** join/#debian vn (n=nostalge@70.53.162.133) |
| 21:36.17 | *** join/#debian Ramendik (n=_looker_@86.41.222.200) |
| 21:36.35 | Ramendik | hello. I am having trouble upgrading sarge to etch |
| 21:36.46 | Ramendik | I suspect this may be a bug - or I may be doign something wrong :) |
| 21:36.51 | bzed | mike1980: np :) if it doesn't work, best is to ask the guys in #xorg |
| 21:36.55 | Ramendik | apt-get dist-upgrade says: |
| 21:37.01 | bzed | !paste |
| 21:37.01 | dpkg | methinks paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste on FreeNode and http://channels.debian.net/paste2/ on OFTC |
| 21:37.07 | mike1980 | bzed: ok cool thanks |
| 21:37.11 | h3sp4wn | terrible floating point performance on via / cyrix - (and amd prior to athlon) |
| 21:37.16 | cookoo | is arts able to be used as network sound daemon |
| 21:37.26 | Ramendik | or rather aptitude dist-upgrade says: |
| 21:37.30 | bzed | cookoo: yes |
| 21:37.32 | Ramendik | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 21:37.32 | Ramendik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.32 | Ramendik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.33 | Ramendik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.33 | Ramendik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.33 | *** kick/#debian [Ramendik!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 21:37.36 | *** join/#debian juice` (n=juice@dmm247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:37.38 | streuner | h3sp4wn: there are faster CPU's, right ;-) |
| 21:37.43 | *** join/#debian Ramendik (n=_looker_@86.41.222.200) |
| 21:37.46 | *** join/#debian gr1ncheux (n=devine@unaffiliated/gr1ncheux) |
| 21:37.48 | Ramendik | sorry - pasting not allowed |
| 21:37.50 | juice` | is there any way to uninstall lilo? it installed on my USB and formating it doesnt help |
| 21:38.00 | bzed | Ramendik: the !paste output up there was for you |
| 21:38.08 | Ramendik | !paste |
| 21:38.08 | dpkg | somebody said paste was Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste on FreeNode and http://channels.debian.net/paste2/ on OFTC |
| 21:38.18 | juice` | and it is installed wrong, so when i use syslinux to make USB bootable, it still tries to load lilo |
| 21:38.27 | juice` | some lilo -u or something? i read man lilo |
| 21:38.33 | bzed | Ramendik: dpkg -r xlibmesa-gl-dev |
| 21:38.42 | juice` | i mean, there is lilo -u but it doesnt work |
| 21:38.43 | h3sp4wn | streuner: true, I had a cyrix at one point and hated it though |
| 21:39.12 | *** join/#debian BackwardsDown (n=niels@5351BB29.cable.casema.nl) |
| 21:39.13 | juice` | or nevermind, maybe i'm blind. |
| 21:39.35 | Ramendik | very many dependencies disallow the dpkg -r |
| 21:39.50 | Ramendik | and besides should this happen unless there is a bug? |
| 21:40.22 | ben_goodger | Ramendik: this sort of thing is usually due to incohesion between official and third-party repositories |
| 21:40.29 | ben_goodger | and user error. |
| 21:40.34 | rahul | Ramendik: use the aptitude gui |
| 21:40.38 | *** join/#debian freezombie (i=QHZbNyp2@tuxhacker/free-zombie) |
| 21:40.40 | ben_goodger | occasionally a bug does creep in in the official repos, but rarely |
| 21:40.41 | Ramendik | how do I ckeck if the package is from a 3rd party repo? |
| 21:40.43 | bzed | Ramendik: sometimes this is just a bug, yes. you could try aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 21:40.54 | Ramendik | I tried and I pasted the failure |
| 21:41.04 | bzed | Ramendik: did youe ver have anything except official debian sources in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 21:41.10 | Ramendik | debian-multimedia |
| 21:41.10 | bzed | Ramendik: link it please? |
| 21:41.36 | Ramendik | There was debian-multimedia. There was something else a long time ago |
| 21:41.42 | h3sp4wn | Ramendik: you are using the etch aptitude right ? (as recommended in the upgrade guide ?) |
| 21:41.48 | bzed | Ramendik: that could be a problem, although it usualyl works well. link the aptitude dist-upgrade output please |
| 21:41.48 | Ramendik | whoops |
| 21:41.54 | Ramendik | I have not seen the upgrade guide |
| 21:41.56 | Ramendik | link please? |
| 21:41.58 | *** join/#debian Zaggynl_ (n=az@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl) |
| 21:42.04 | bzed | !tell Ramendik about sarge_etch |
| 21:42.08 | bzed | !tell Ramendik about sarge->etch |
| 21:42.09 | Ramendik | I just changes the sources.list and tried aptitude |
| 21:42.09 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:42.23 | *** join/#debian aild (n=aild@201-26-1-75.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 21:42.26 | Ramendik | that's exactly waht I did |
| 21:42.31 | Ramendik | as defined in the tell |
| 21:42.38 | Ramendik | OK |
| 21:42.43 | Ramendik | linking fill output |
| 21:43.13 | Ramendik | done |
| 21:43.23 | Ramendik | http://channels.debian.net/paste/5721 |
| 21:43.38 | mike1980 | bzed: i got it woking with "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse" but will it work on reboot do you know |
| 21:43.56 | bzed | echo psmouse >> /etc/modules |
| 21:44.02 | bzed | err wait |
| 21:44.05 | ben_goodger | mike1980: no, you must put it in /etc/modules for persistence |
| 21:44.15 | mike1980 | ok thanks guys |
| 21:44.16 | bzed | mike1980: wait, you've removed it? |
| 21:44.42 | mike1980 | bzed: ? |
| 21:44.57 | bzed | actually it should just work O_o. but add psmouse to /etc/modules, it cna't be bad |
| 21:45.07 | Ramendik | bzed: I have posted the output http://channels.debian.net/paste/5721 |
| 21:45.16 | mike1980 | ok cool thanks giys |
| 21:45.32 | h3sp4wn | Ramendik: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 21:45.42 | bzed | Ramendik: dpkg -r all the mentioned -dev packages |
| 21:46.05 | *** join/#debian SEcki_ (n=SEcki@e181081182.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:46.06 | Ramendik | I tried |
| 21:46.11 | Ramendik | a big lot of others depend on them |
| 21:46.20 | bzed | Ramendik: I'd just remove them all :P |
| 21:46.22 | Ramendik | resolving the deps manually is a big typejob :) |
| 21:46.24 | Ramendik | BTW# |
| 21:46.31 | Ramendik | how do I check if this is not a bug? |
| 21:46.49 | bzed | Ramendik: as long as they have a -dev in the name. hard to check if it is a bug since you had other sources |
| 21:46.57 | Ramendik | ok |
| 21:47.15 | Ramendik | the one thing I don't understand about apt is why it won't store which package is from where. yum does |
| 21:47.29 | bzed | Ramendik: because it's normally not needed |
| 21:47.41 | bzed | Ramendik: hmm. you could try this: apt-get install xorg |
| 21:48.06 | bzed | Ramendik: with some luck it'll just remove all old xfree stuff |
| 21:48.19 | Ramendik | and I'll end up half-etch? |
| 21:48.38 | Ramendik | I bumped inmto "where is this package wrong" many times :( |
| 21:49.41 | bzed | Ramendik: no, you do a dist-upgrade after that then |
| 21:49.43 | *** join/#debian zinx (n=zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 21:49.46 | Ramendik | hmm |
| 21:49.51 | *** join/#debian swa_mobil (n=swa@tuxhacker/swa) |
| 21:49.51 | Ramendik | here's the version of the dev package I have |
| 21:49.53 | *** join/#debian newdebus1 (n=newdebus@p112-18.med.unc.edu) |
| 21:49.59 | Ramendik | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge3 |
| 21:50.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 754] by debhelper |
| 21:50.06 | bzed | we know |
| 21:50.09 | Ramendik | does it look like one from sarge or a 3rd party? |
| 21:50.18 | Ramendik | oops - I'll go to packages.debian.org and check the version there |
| 21:50.25 | *** join/#debian vikingr (n=vikingr@p5b175423.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:50.44 | wols | Ramendik: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 21:50.45 | Ramendik | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge3 |
| 21:50.58 | Ramendik | so I have a problem with a package from etch unable to displace a pacjkage from sarge |
| 21:51.04 | Ramendik | Sounds like a bug to me? |
| 21:51.11 | Ramendik | My big q now is should I report it? |
| 21:51.12 | vikingr | hey.. how do i unpack a .deb to edit the control-file and repack it afterwards? |
| 21:51.14 | bzed | Ramendik: do you have contrib and non-free in your sources? |
| 21:51.19 | Ramendik | bzed, I do |
| 21:51.42 | Ramendik | but this one seems to be in main |
| 21:51.56 | bzed | Ramendik: but you've isntalled libgl-dev, which is not in testing |
| 21:52.23 | Ramendik | hmm |
| 21:52.28 | Ramendik | but it is in stable |
| 21:52.35 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:52.48 | wols | Ramendik: uninstall it and try to dist-upgrade again |
| 21:53.11 | Ramendik | and manually resolve all the deps for uninstallation? |
| 21:53.11 | helo | do we have a hard freeze yet? |
| 21:53.15 | bzed | Ramendik: no t's not |
| 21:53.22 | bzed | Ramendik: you wanna uninstall that package |
| 21:53.29 | bzed | !freeze helo |
| 21:53.40 | ben_goodger | oooh |
| 21:53.49 | bzed | Ramendik: dpkg -P libgl-dev |
| 21:53.54 | robin_sz | dont hold your b reath |
| 21:54.13 | robin_sz | dpkg, soon? |
| 21:54.13 | dpkg | i heard soon is well before heat death |
| 21:54.15 | *** join/#debian d_ed (n=david@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:54.28 | helo | i'm working on building a new debian image for our machines... i'd really like to use the newer version since it's (relatively) close to being stable |
| 21:54.28 | bzed | dpkg, hopefully? |
| 21:54.42 | Ramendik | http://channels.debian.net/paste/5722 |
| 21:54.45 | bzed | !tell helo about ask |
| 21:55.03 | robin_sz | helo, then use etch and enjoy |
| 21:55.04 | d_ed | quick question. I'm writing some C progs, and each time I run GCC I have to -I /usr/include I'm sure that's not normal, how do I fix it? |
| 21:55.05 | helo | i have to think of a question to ask? |
| 21:55.07 | bzed | Ramendik: why don't you read what I write :| |
| 21:55.27 | bzed | Ramendik: libgl-dev is the packge you're supposed to remove |
| 21:55.33 | *** part/#debian Coracinus (i=Leo@81.169.234.249) |
| 21:55.39 | Ramendik | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libgl-dev which isn't installed |
| 21:55.44 | Ramendik | that was the response |
| 21:55.48 | bzed | uh? |
| 21:55.50 | Ramendik | it's a virtual package |
| 21:55.59 | wols | Ramendik: where did you get that package? |
| 21:56.17 | ben_goodger | helo: dpkg is a robot, by the way |
| 21:56.21 | bzed | Ramendik: oh yeah, dumb me |
| 21:56.26 | bzed | Ramendik: I should read better :P |
| 21:56.36 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:57.01 | *** join/#debian lando (n=lando@adsl-153-127-223.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:57.03 | Ramendik | bzed, so what do I do now - try to manually remove all these endless -dev packages? |
| 21:57.11 | Ramendik | One of them is indeed non-sarge |
| 21:57.13 | bzed | Ramendik: but you've libgl1-mesa-dev installed? |
| 21:57.28 | bzed | which is not in sarge? |
| 21:57.29 | Ramendik | nope |
| 21:57.38 | Ramendik | apparently it's the etch package which conflicts with mine |
| 21:57.45 | mike1980 | bzed: well I put "pmouse" in /etc/modules but had to manully start it with modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse |
| 21:57.59 | bzed | mike1980: modprobe -r removes the module |
| 21:58.06 | bzed | mike1980: there must be somethign else buggy |
| 21:58.13 | Ramendik | I have xlibmesa-gl-dev , etch has libgl1-mesa-dex . It seems clear from the name tha one replaces the other... |
| 21:58.19 | Ramendik | s/dex/dev |
| 21:58.30 | bzed | Ramendik: which one of your packages is not from sarge then? |
| 21:58.32 | *** join/#debian loesh|worklap (n=loesh@fw.polopoly.com) |
| 21:58.34 | *** join/#debian loesh (n=loesh@fw.polopoly.com) |
| 21:58.42 | Ramendik | libqt3-mt-dev |
| 21:58.47 | mike1980 | bzed: hmm maybe I sould uninstall the touchpad driver |
| 21:58.54 | Ramendik | it's from a backport of kde 3.5.2 by Daniel Baumann |
| 21:58.59 | Ramendik | the backport never made it to bpo |
| 21:59.12 | bzed | Ramendik: aaahh... heh... I think that messed up your sarge |
| 21:59.24 | *** part/#debian d_ed (n=david@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:59.25 | bzed | Ramendik: libqt depends on gl and a lot of other sutff |
| 21:59.38 | Ramendik | ok, I'll try removing this dev package |
| 21:59.43 | Ramendik | the qt one |
| 21:59.47 | bzed | Ramendik: so give aptitude install xorg a try |
| 21:59.55 | *** join/#debian zamuro (n=FlavorFl@190.38.88.6) |
| 22:00.34 | mike1980 | bzed: ok I removed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics now I will reboot |
| 22:00.51 | Ramendik | ok I will |
| 22:00.57 | Ramendik | should I quit X and do it from text mode? |
| 22:01.36 | *** join/#debian BUMBACL0T (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 22:01.38 | *** part/#debian blank_ (n=blank_@18-247.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 22:02.03 | *** join/#debian empath- (n=jonas@c-9ddfe255.111-12-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:02.28 | bzed | Ramendik: yeah, sounds better |
| 22:02.50 | Ramendik | ok# |
| 22:02.59 | *** join/#debian ogzy (n=oguz@81.215.103.231) |
| 22:03.00 | Ramendik | bye then, I'm going to text mode. |
| 22:03.04 | bzed | Ramendik: if that doesn't work, try to aptitude isntall the conflicting library |
| 22:03.08 | Ramendik | wait, I'll just check if it's feasible |
| 22:03.28 | Ramendik | xorg fails |
| 22:03.50 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 22:03.58 | bzed | Ramendik: aptitude install xlibmesa-gl-dev libgl1-mesa-dev ? |
| 22:04.06 | lunitik | Ramendik: might want to just remove everything you got from the 3rd party repo, might be easier |
| 22:04.15 | *** join/#debian Owdgit (n=ron@88-110-225-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 22:04.17 | Ramendik | oops |
| 22:04.22 | Ramendik | it says some packages are held |
| 22:04.53 | Ramendik | lunitik - it is not from the 3rd party |
| 22:04.55 | lunitik | Ramendik: install them explicitly, then try again |
| 22:05.00 | Ramendik | it is from sarge. I alreqdy removed the qt dev stuff |
| 22:05.25 | lunitik | Sarge had KDE 3.5.2? |
| 22:05.32 | mike1980 | bzed: removing it work now all I got to do is get "Hotkeys" to start on boot is ther some where I can put this "hotkeys -t msnatpro &" ? |
| 22:05.49 | Ramendik | wow |
| 22:05.59 | Ramendik | aptitude install xlibmesa-gl-dev says it will work |
| 22:06.09 | Ramendik | the packages site says it's a transitional package... |
| 22:06.18 | nivanson | When installing a local deb can I resolve dependencies automaticly still? dpkg -i file.deb doesn't do that for me. |
| 22:06.20 | Ramendik | bye all, as I go out of X to try it |
| 22:06.23 | bzed | Ramendik: well, then do that, and dist-upgrade later |
| 22:06.38 | bzed | mike1980: create a new file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ |
| 22:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 22:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 22:07.14 | mike1980 | bzed: ok thanks a excutable one right |
| 22:08.17 | *** part/#debian sanelson (n=sanelson@88.212.149.148) |
| 22:08.44 | *** join/#debian mtn (n=mtn@vsat-148-65-200-206.c012.g4.mrt.starband.net) |
| 22:09.04 | *** join/#debian bartek (n=bartek@klient-75-237-178.petrus.com.pl) |
| 22:09.08 | *** join/#debian thechef (n=signamig@217-162-42-186.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:09.46 | mike1980 | bzed: just a text file with ""hotkeys -t msnatpro &" will work? |
| 22:09.48 | *** join/#debian Cholito (n=alejandr@87.218.66.168) |
| 22:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 745] by debhelper |
| 22:10.09 | *** join/#debian curt (n=curt@pdpc/supporter/active/curt) |
| 22:10.32 | bzed | mike1980: yes |
| 22:10.48 | mike1980 | bzed: ok thanks agan |
| 22:10.58 | bzed | np |
| 22:11.35 | curt | as a user: source .bashrc .. i get -sh: `_debconf-show': not a valid identifier .. but it looks like most everything in.bashrc works fine? |
| 22:11.58 | thechef | I have a working gigabit network and wish to improve NFS performance, which is currently at 7-8 MB/s. http-transfer is 6 to 10 times faster. |
| 22:12.05 | curt | google returned exaclty one result |
| 22:12.30 | HowlingMad | what package do i need to apt to get cc |
| 22:12.35 | *** join/#debian Garda (n=Garda@218-215-138-183.people.net.au) |
| 22:12.48 | ben_goodger | cc? |
| 22:13.12 | curt | I will check back .. if you know what that means please use my nick so I see the responce |
| 22:13.34 | HowlingMad | ahh gcc |
| 22:13.54 | ben_goodger | aptitude search gss |
| 22:13.56 | ben_goodger | *gcc |
| 22:15.04 | Ryushin | I've been trying to find out how to extract the bootable floppy image from a cdrom. So far I haven't been able to find a way except under windows which I do not have. |
| 22:15.17 | Ryushin | Anyone know of any tools/procedures to do this? |
| 22:15.40 | *** join/#debian character (n=lsmith@192.135.141.99) |
| 22:15.40 | *** part/#debian AfterDeath (i=icxcnika@about/linux/regular/afterdeath) |
| 22:16.01 | *** join/#debian nominals (i=QuakeRS@81.198.118.173) |
| 22:16.07 | ben_goodger | Ryushin: open the ISO with any decent archive reader and poke it until you find the .img |
| 22:16.22 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (i=burek@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 22:16.27 | *** join/#debian phud (n=pd@89.240.243.161) |
| 22:16.55 | cusco | dudes... im using fglrx (I have an ati x1600) and it doesn-t support xv? is there anyway that it does? |
| 22:16.58 | Ryushin | ben_goodger: any suggestions on a archive read to look at? |
| 22:17.24 | ben_goodger | Ryushin: file-roller and the kde archive reader both work fine |
| 22:18.26 | *** part/#debian nominals (i=QuakeRS@81.198.118.173) |
| 22:18.33 | Ryushin | Thanks much. |
| 22:23.06 | *** join/#debian jrollins (n=Metaltro@66-233-228-40.red.clearwire-dns.net) |
| 22:23.08 | *** join/#debian SubStack (n=SubStack@dhcp-103-80.arsc.edu) |
| 22:24.36 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (n=DarkCow@81-179-83-147.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 22:26.04 | *** join/#debian Cabal (n=bconway@c-24-218-44-66.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:26.04 | *** join/#debian komposter (n=komposte@ppp91-76-81-177.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 22:27.38 | *** join/#debian komposter (n=komposte@ppp91-76-81-177.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 22:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 734] by debhelper |
| 22:30.59 | *** join/#debian test0036 (n=test0036@222.131.185.250) |
| 22:31.39 | *** join/#debian LightKnight (n=gabry@adsl-ull-220-180.41-151.net24.it) |
| 22:33.17 | *** join/#debian jean_n (i=eric@84.112.12.220) |
| 22:33.38 | *** join/#debian S2AnGeL (n=S2AnGeL@CPE000f66bd2bf3-CM000039529869.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 22:35.42 | *** join/#debian Garda (n=Garda@218-215-138-183.people.net.au) |
| 22:36.07 | *** join/#debian hatter (n=hatter@193.25.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 22:36.54 | *** join/#debian rolandlakr (n=harley@pppoe-138-124.wcta.net) |
| 22:37.32 | hatter | hmmm, looks like i have a remote machine with a hosed directory, /usr/local/bin it has a '?' where the 'd' should be. which i imagine got nuked with an incorrect shutdown, any clues on fixing this without going to init 1 ? |
| 22:37.32 | *** join/#debian jean_n (i=eric@84.112.12.220) |
| 22:37.59 | *** join/#debian ascha (n=ascha@p549FD983.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:38.23 | rolandlakr | I am trying to install Java Runtime Environment on my debian system, but after downloading it with aptitude when i go on a site which requires java it requests i install the plugin.. |
| 22:38.53 | FuzzyB | where exactly should the d be in /usr/local/bin ? |
| 22:39.00 | *** join/#debian vertigo (i=cue@64.18.138.251) |
| 22:39.01 | maelvino | that's a secret |
| 22:39.25 | FuzzyB | Ronin: google debian java etch |
| 22:39.30 | FuzzyB | err |
| 22:39.36 | FuzzyB | rolandlakr: google debian java etch |
| 22:39.45 | hatter | the permissions, drwxr-x-r-x is ?rwxr-xr-x |
| 22:39.45 | RichiH | FuzzyB: i presume in the ls -l output? |
| 22:39.56 | hatter | directory |
| 22:40.12 | FuzzyB | yeap sounds like you hosed an inode |
| 22:40.15 | Caelum | why the hell does xscreensaver show me porn |
| 22:40.19 | hatter | yep |
| 22:40.24 | FuzzyB | Caelum: cuz your lucky? |
| 22:40.26 | hatter | but the machine is a long way away |
| 22:40.27 | *** join/#debian juice` (n=juice@dmm247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:40.38 | hatter | and no-one there is capable to login to init 1 |
| 22:40.39 | FuzzyB | hatter: what distro/version? |
| 22:40.43 | Caelum | FuzzyB: this is my work machine at that... |
| 22:40.43 | hatter | debian sarge |
| 22:40.59 | juice` | any idea why my Xorg server from debian doesnt want to start after using fglrx one-liner? nothing intresting in logs. i have ati 1950 pro |
| 22:41.03 | FuzzyB | if i really needed to get that directory back |
| 22:41.19 | FuzzyB | i would install sarge somewhere else on something similar in reguards to hardware |
| 22:41.22 | dkr | Caelum: I vaguely recall one xscreensaver that grabbed random images from the web and dislpayed them in a collage-ish type format. webwhacker os eomthing |
| 22:41.28 | FuzzyB | then tar it ( remember the p flag ) and scp it |
| 22:41.31 | hatter | i can tar and untar the directory from another machine |
| 22:41.39 | FuzzyB | remember the p flag |
| 22:41.40 | hatter | right |
| 22:41.44 | dkr | Caelum: you can choose whcih xscreensavers to use from xscreensaver-demo |
| 22:41.46 | hatter | what is the p flag ? |
| 22:41.47 | Caelum | dkr: just googled it, "webcollage" apparently, thank you |
| 22:41.51 | FuzzyB | permissing |
| 22:41.53 | FuzzyB | permissions |
| 22:41.56 | hatter | right |
| 22:42.01 | FuzzyB | preserve permissions |
| 22:42.01 | hatter | thx, i will do this |
| 22:42.08 | hatter | i have some duplicate machines |
| 22:42.15 | FuzzyB | just be careful |
| 22:42.39 | hatter | at least its /usr/loca/bin, not system critical directory |
| 22:42.41 | hatter | thank god |
| 22:42.52 | hatter | but it is email critical |
| 22:43.05 | juice` | any idea why my Xorg server from debian doesnt want to start after using fglrx one-liner? nothing intresting in logs. i have ati 1950 pro. my monitor is detected correctly by dpkg-reconfigure(discover), my graphics card is not |
| 22:43.07 | hatter | where some of qmail is located |
| 22:43.09 | hatter | grrr |
| 22:43.38 | dkr | Caelum: oh yeah, jwz wrote it, it uses vidwhacker, heh from the docs for it: "WARNING: THE INTERNET SOMETIMES CONTAINS PORNOGRAPHY." |
| 22:43.47 | Caelum | :) |
| 22:43.52 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (n=sphenxes@85-125-148-188.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 22:44.17 | dkr | (I had it disabled, I think it is ugly even if not showing porn) |
| 22:45.39 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 22:47.01 | juice` | any idea why my Xorg server from debian doesnt want to start after using fglrx one-liner? i have ati 1950 pro. my monitor is detected correctly by dpkg-reconfigure(discover), my graphics card is not (so i'm leaving it as Generic Video Card). in logs i have: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found. On VESA everything works fine. |
| 22:47.27 | *** join/#debian karrotx_ (n=steve@64.253.3.13) |
| 22:47.44 | juice` | sorry for pasting it again, but i changed few sentences. |
| 22:48.21 | *** join/#debian Xanos (n=mind@85.239.154.50) |
| 22:48.27 | *** part/#debian Xanos (n=mind@85.239.154.50) |
| 22:48.39 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-167-127-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:50.52 | *** join/#debian _shawn (n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com) |
| 22:51.52 | *** join/#debian SkippyX (n=Thangleb@69.151.35.114) |
| 22:52.10 | *** join/#debian redoverlord (n=redoverl@ADSL-TPLUS-88-77.telecomplus.net) |
| 22:52.25 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (n=DarkCow@85-210-175-157.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 22:53.07 | *** join/#debian empath- (n=jonas@c-9ddfe255.111-12-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:54.11 | *** join/#debian alaya_ (n=alaya@adsl-75-32-149-194.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:55.34 | karsten | juice`: /msg dpkg drrx |
| 22:55.38 | karsten | juice`: erm, drxx |
| 22:55.51 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 22:56.02 | karsten | hatter: I /usr/loca/bin where you put crazy programs? |
| 22:56.08 | karsten | s/I/Is/ |
| 22:56.13 | *** join/#debian germieb (i=Jeremy@c-68-62-26-169.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:56.26 | juice` | karsten: why? |
| 22:56.35 | juice` | karsten: i used dpkg-reconfigure |
| 22:56.37 | germieb | how can I cat a couple lines of text to a file at a specific line #? possible? |
| 22:57.14 | karsten | juice`: Well, you don't have a usable xorg conf file, which is why there are no screens configured. Confirm you've actually got the server installed. |
| 22:57.41 | c00lfon | germieb, grep ^# filename? |
| 22:57.57 | SkippyX | I just bought an Asus WL107g wifi card for my lappy (debian sarge). The card is compatible (from what I've read). How do I get it working? |
| 22:58.07 | karsten | germieb: You want to add lines to a file at a specific point? |
| 22:58.08 | *** join/#debian dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 22:58.36 | karsten | germieb: 'sed', 'a' operator. |
| 22:58.43 | germieb | karsten: yes |
| 22:59.26 | karsten | germieb: sed '<linenumber> a\ <newline> line to append\<newline>line to append' |
| 22:59.27 | juice` | karsten: what? i'm on it right now, how it can't be usable |
| 22:59.37 | juice` | karsten: i wrote, that it is working on VESA |
| 22:59.54 | *** join/#debian flaminguican (n=blfisher@64.108.5.130) |
| 23:00.34 | germieb | karsten: wow thanks so much |
| 23:00.34 | *** join/#debian raz0 (n=user@217.198.211.234) |
| 23:00.39 | *** join/#debian nunu_ (n=nunu@p5481F878.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:00.40 | flaminguican | Heya guys, just wanted to check and make sure, but through the debian netinst I'll be able to basically install a base system + gui without having to install a bunch of unwanted/needed apps, right? |
| 23:00.43 | juice` | karsten: did you read my whole message or only part with log entries? :) |
| 23:00.59 | karsten | juice`: ONly part. |
| 23:01.24 | hatter | i have a weird problem now with temporary files. vmplayer is producing an error saying temporary files for this virtual machine are stored in directory "/tmp/vmware-admin" which is on an almost full filesystem' but the filesystem has plenty of space |
| 23:01.24 | karsten | germieb: >changeme; for i in $( seq 10 ); do echo $i >> changeme; done |
| 23:02.35 | juice` | well, like i said, i used dpkg-reconfigure which is generating xorg.conf and it doesnt work even then |
| 23:02.35 | juice` | so what to do? |
| 23:02.35 | karsten | germieb: sed -i -e '4a\<nl>First added line\<nl>Second added line<nl>' changeme |
| 23:02.35 | *** join/#debian c1ru (n=pacogp@81.202.46.61.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:02.35 | hatter | something different with /tmp and udev ? |
| 23:02.58 | *** join/#debian GhostlyDeath (n=ghostlyd@unaffiliated/ghostlydeath) |
| 23:02.58 | karsten | germieb: ... where <nl> is a newline. Note that you escape those in the appended lines. That should create a file numbered 1 to 10, with the two added lines added after line 4. |
| 23:02.59 | *** join/#debian ||arifaX (n=||arifaX@p54B5A766.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:02.59 | *** join/#debian ki11bi11 (n=pat@ip24-252-40-49.om.om.cox.net) |
| 23:03.14 | *** join/#debian drummer_wilson (n=romanosG@dsl-88-218-12-109.customers.vivodi.gr) |
| 23:03.27 | karsten | germieb: '-i' changes the file in place. |
| 23:03.38 | *** join/#debian blindvt_ (n=bf@M950P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:03.56 | germieb | karsten: Ok I understand, thanks a million |
| 23:04.11 | karsten | germieb: NP |
| 23:04.15 | ki11bi11 | does anyone use a debian as a router for ther cable company? |
| 23:04.33 | karsten | !tell ki11bi11 about ask |
| 23:04.40 | *** join/#debian tolecnal (n=tolecnal@158.80-203-128.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:06.57 | *** part/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 23:06.57 | *** join/#debian Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal) |
| 23:07.29 | *** join/#debian karrotx_ (n=steve@64.253.3.13) |
| 23:08.44 | *** join/#debian Steven_M (n=steven@124.197.3.114) |
| 23:09.27 | *** join/#debian dvs (n=cwv@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 23:11.14 | Steven_M | does anyone know how to change the font size of the text on virtual terminals in a debian-based distro? |
| 23:12.43 | RichiH | Steven_M: the vga variable you pass the kernel on boot |
| 23:13.15 | karsten | Steven_M: ... or aptitud install svgatextmode |
| 23:13.21 | karsten | s/aptitud/&e/ |
| 23:13.36 | karsten | !moo |
| 23:13.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:15.28 | *** join/#debian anapivirtua_ (n=anapivir@AMarseille-153-1-92-166.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:16.04 | *** join/#debian _shawn (n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com) |
| 23:16.11 | hatter | !monkeys |
| 23:16.11 | dpkg | hmm... monkeys is the most evil creatures in the world....damn bill gates and his monkeys DO NOT FEED THEM ! |
| 23:16.34 | *** join/#debian un1xer (n=chatzill@be-217-129-188-15.netvisao.pt) |
| 23:16.37 | RichiH | karsten: that program looks a bit dated |
| 23:16.38 | Steven_M | RichiH: what should I set the variable to to double the current size? |
| 23:17.03 | *** join/#debian Prophet_ (n=Prophet@p57A7E127.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:17.08 | karsten | RichiH: May or may not work. It does allow post-boot configuration, however. |
| 23:17.15 | RichiH | Steven_M: you want to make it _larger_? no idea, sorry. perhaps try the program karsten suggested |
| 23:17.20 | karsten | RichiH: ... I prefer to think of it as "experienced". |
| 23:17.39 | karsten | Steven_M: If you're running 80x24 in console, I think you're stuck. |
| 23:17.54 | *** join/#debian jhr-online (n=jhr@p57b6ed5b.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:18.05 | karsten | Steven_M: s/running/already &/ |
| 23:18.45 | *** join/#debian tsurko (n=tsurko@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg) |
| 23:19.27 | *** join/#debian liz__ (n=liz@c-24-18-27-223.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.40 | *** join/#debian ofer0 (n=ofer0x@unaffiliated/ofer0) |
| 23:21.40 | Steven_M | karsten: where do I find this var? |
| 23:23.20 | *** join/#debian al3xanr0 (n=al3xanr0@cpe-72-184-241-37.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 23:24.30 | hatter | does udev look after /tmp ? |
| 23:26.33 | al3xanr0 | of the 20 or so isos how many did i need to boot into a gnome session? |
| 23:27.16 | *** join/#debian anapivirtua (n=anapivir@AMarseille-153-1-92-166.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:28.13 | Steven_M | RichiH: karsten: currently grub's menu.list has vga=791. What should I set it to? |
| 23:28.28 | *** join/#debian prometeus (i=xxxxxxxx@adsl-ull-138-70.44-151.net24.it) |
| 23:28.29 | *** join/#debian force (i=force@creep.bur.st) |
| 23:28.48 | *** join/#debian Braintix (n=braintix@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 23:28.48 | markybob | al3xanr0, odds are everything you want are in the first two. |
| 23:28.48 | markybob | al3xanr0, it goes by order of popularity |
| 23:28.49 | prometeus | hi, where can i find a (compiled) g_NCR5380.ko ? |
| 23:29.29 | al3xanr0 | ty |
| 23:30.00 | force | hello, i have to restore some files from a tape drive (/dev/ht0) and i have no idea what sort of format the backups are stored in, is there any way i can tell easily? |
| 23:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 722] by debhelper |
| 23:30.25 | *** join/#debian al3xanr0 (n=al3xanr0@cpe-72-184-241-37.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 23:30.27 | RichiH | Steven_M: try 785 |
| 23:30.38 | RichiH | Steven_M: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/configs/linux/menu.lst |
| 23:30.46 | RichiH | !vga |
| 23:30.47 | dpkg | vga is probably Video Graphics Array or something you SHOULD know, maybe you should sell your computer huh, or 60 Hz vsync, 31.5 kHz hsync gets your old VGA monitor going |
| 23:30.53 | *** part/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5CD9A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:30.53 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5CD9A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:30.55 | drummer_wilson | hi! could someone tell me how can i mount my partitions on debian? tried mount /dev/hda /mnt but it asks for filesystem??? |
| 23:30.57 | RichiH | dpkg: vga is also http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/configs/linux/menu.lst |
| 23:30.57 | dpkg | RichiH: okay |
| 23:31.16 | RichiH | drummer_wilson: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 23:31.54 | *** join/#debian tuvwx (n=tuv@unaffiliated/tuv) |
| 23:32.21 | drummer_wilson | RichiH: where is that gonna mount at? |
| 23:32.35 | Steven_M | RichiH: Ok thanks |
| 23:32.53 | RichiH | drummer_wilson: it will tell you the layout of your disk and if hda can even be mounted. if it is partitioned, you need hda1, hda2 etc |
| 23:32.56 | flaminguican | Choosing the "Desktop Environment" option, debian installs kde or gnome or both? |
| 23:33.11 | hatter | flaminguican: gnome |
| 23:33.19 | hatter | for etch that is |
| 23:33.24 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (n=DarkCow@85-210-62-98.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 23:33.25 | drummer_wilson | RichiH: i did it and it didnt say anything |
| 23:33.25 | prometeus | hi, where can i find a (compiled) g_NCR5380.ko ? |
| 23:33.30 | *** join/#debian BUMBACL0T (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 23:33.55 | *** join/#debian mdo (n=13h7@p508A3105.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:34.01 | flaminguican | Yeah, that's what I have (I think, whatever the latest stable is). I thought that it would install gnome, I just noticed a couple kde things go by on the download. |
| 23:34.30 | flaminguican | Oh, wait, nope, I have sarge |
| 23:34.31 | hatter | flaminguican: the latest stable is sarge |
| 23:34.38 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5CD9A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:34.54 | flaminguican | hatter: yep. Would you say I should move to etch? |
| 23:35.10 | markybob | flaminguican, once it's released :) |
| 23:35.11 | hatter | flaminguican: someone else can answer :) |
| 23:35.13 | RichiH | drummer_wilson: really nothing? i find that hard to believe |
| 23:35.21 | drummer_wilson | RichiH: any other ideas |
| 23:35.42 | flaminguican | I'm basically going to set this system up for programming java/python/c++ and other basic school tasks (reports and such) |
| 23:35.48 | hatter | flaminguican: i have moved to etch on a few servers but there are differences and still RC bugs which means its not released as stable yet |
| 23:35.49 | tuvwx | anyone using wmii from unstable? alt-a and alt-p don't work here. the initial welcome message is missing too (though fixed with adding -p to mkdir in /usr/bin/wmii fixed brought the welcome message back!) |
| 23:36.18 | RichiH | drummer_wilson: file -s /dev/hda; file -s /dev/hda1 |
| 23:36.32 | flaminguican | hatter: yeah, I'll stick with sarge. Just when you made the initial comment about etch, I thought perhaps the community was leaning toward using etch as opposed to sarge. |
| 23:37.14 | hatter | flaminguican: the RC bugs are quite low, but it is not released yet. YMMV |
| 23:37.23 | flaminguican | This is the first time I've made it through an install of debian without problems. I've always had problems with the netinst not being able to connect or other randomly weird things. |
| 23:37.27 | *** join/#debian cob (n=jbcobb@ip24-253-243-172.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:37.38 | *** join/#debian xL0giC (n=davs@189.146.237.9) |
| 23:37.44 | hatter | flaminguican: you are unlucky, I have done plenty and not had problems |
| 23:37.48 | flaminguican | But I have an idea that I'll enjoy this experience :) |
| 23:38.26 | flaminguican | hatter: Heh, yeah. I always found it weird that I could manage a gentoo install but not make it past the first couple screen in the debian installer app =P |
| 23:38.30 | cob | I've got an NVIDIA RAID controller I'm using dmraid to manage. dmraid doesn't seem to provide a partitioning tool, and qtparted thinks I've got 2 separate drives... |
| 23:38.37 | tuvwx | wmii users.. anyone? |
| 23:38.44 | *** join/#debian rpc (i=fast@84.16.236.205) |
| 23:38.50 | flaminguican | Meh, but gentoo is overrated |
| 23:39.18 | hatter | flaminguican: yeah i reckon, i havent used it though. but it seems more of a learning tool than to be used for a production server |
| 23:39.54 | markybob | flaminguican, by idiots. all sane people know to stay away from it |
| 23:40.10 | flaminguican | It's definitely not server material. Mainly a development distro. It's just too complicated for what it's worth. Perhaps if you were writing kernel code it might benefit. |
| 23:40.33 | flaminguican | And flags |
| 23:40.40 | flaminguican | Everyone over there is flag crazy... |
| 23:41.10 | markybob | s/flag\ crazy/crazy |
| 23:41.19 | flaminguican | I'm just excited that I can get a base system + gui up and running with debian with little effort. This is great :D |
| 23:41.21 | *** join/#debian Luck (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 23:41.39 | tuvwx | poor wmii |
| 23:41.55 | flaminguican | Meh, but there deb goes download more kde apps again :/ |
| 23:41.56 | hatter | flaminguican: debian is great, everything has its negatives, but when etch is released a lot more hardware will be easier |
| 23:42.24 | flaminguican | I'm just hoping that I can get my wifi up and my radeon x1400 drivers installed |
| 23:42.42 | markybob | flaminguican, which wifi chipset? |
| 23:42.48 | ki11bi11 | is there still a problem booting into raid in etch? |
| 23:42.51 | *** join/#debian rfrank (n=rfrank@ool-44c0abd0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:42.59 | flaminguican | Intel Proset 3945ABG |
| 23:43.35 | markybob | killbill i did it today with the daily netinst image. worked for me. *shrug* |
| 23:44.16 | markybob | flaminguican, i'm not sure how well that's supported. push comes to shove you could always use ndiswrapper to make it work, though. |
| 23:44.35 | un1xer | never had any problems with the net install, but i advise to use a debian.org server |
| 23:44.38 | *** join/#debian flaccid (n=flaccid@hardtrance.biz) |
| 23:44.54 | *** join/#debian rhalff (n=rhalff@g179062.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 23:44.55 | flaminguican | markybob: well, I'm hoping I won't have too many problems with it since I've had it running under *eek* ubuntu in the past. |
| 23:45.02 | *** join/#debian mango (n=mango@82.152.252.135) |
| 23:45.10 | *** join/#debian sparr (n=sparr@c-68-54-228-10.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.16 | flaccid | is it possible that a usb device does not come up in lsusb? how can i test/verify? |
| 23:45.22 | hatter | ki11bi11: i have done a few raids from the netinst also |
| 23:45.27 | markybob | flaminguican, do you know with which module? that would help if it's not auto detected |
| 23:45.42 | *** join/#debian mike1980 (n=mike@CPE00131066190a-CM000f9f7eea54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:46.03 | streuner | flaccid: i think 'lsusb' ask the kernel itselfs... |
| 23:46.28 | streuner | flaccid: check dmesg |
| 23:46.29 | mike1980 | HI guys is there no ndiswrapper-modules in etch apt dose not find it for me? |
| 23:46.36 | rpc | does anyone know what may cause ftp to finish sending file early? like last several bytes missing |
| 23:46.37 | flaminguican | woot! http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:46.53 | *** join/#debian levander (i=cponder@user-1121dch.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 23:47.03 | streuner | flaccid: what kind of usb device? |
| 23:47.03 | flaminguican | markybob: no, not sure which model, it's been a year or so since I've tried a *nix desktop environment |
| 23:47.15 | flaminguican | But I think that website should provide the info I require, hopefully :D |
| 23:47.19 | *** join/#debian unholycrap (n=fdsa@c-68-35-203-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.26 | cob | flaminguican: did Intel not provide an IPW driver before? |
| 23:47.41 | mango | hi, I want to backup for my laptop. Is there any way I can use to backup using tar & gz, and restore back bearing in mind the mbr |
| 23:47.45 | levander | Is there an apt command to see why a certain package is being held back during upgrades? |
| 23:47.52 | flaminguican | cob, heh, it just worked with ubuntu. |
| 23:48.06 | prometeus | hi, where can i find a (compiled) g_NCR5380.ko ? |
| 23:48.08 | mike1980 | HI guys is there no ndiswrapper-modules in etch apt dose not find it for me? |
| 23:48.16 | streuner | mango: partimage (ext2) |
| 23:48.54 | karsten | Um, what is /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate and why is it called that (/usr/share/doc/slcoate/README.Debian doesn't explain). |
| 23:49.03 | cob | ndiswrapper isn't part of the main apt sources |
| 23:49.04 | streuner | levander: usually apt-get upgrade shows the holded packages at the top |
| 23:49.37 | levander | streuner: yeah, it's hlding a few packages back, but I want to know why it is. Like, what are the unmet dependencies or whatever. |
| 23:49.52 | mike1980 | Cob: do you know what I should add to the sources.list |
| 23:49.55 | streuner | levander: reasons could be, depends cannot resolved |
| 23:49.59 | freetos | on 2/28 i tried etch, and couldn't get internet connection going with it, tried disabling ipv6 no luck further, think it works better now? |
| 23:50.10 | levander | streuner: is there a command to find out which dependencies? |
| 23:50.15 | mango | streuner: I have a window partition & a ext3 |
| 23:50.17 | cob | mike1980: no, check Google |
| 23:50.25 | markybob | freetos, depends. do you mean wireless networking or wired? which chipset? |
| 23:50.34 | streuner | levander: hold package needs to use another package which wasn't installed on your system before... |
| 23:50.40 | hatter | I have a remote server that appears to have remounted -ro due to filesystem errors, though it is in init 3 and i can login, how can i check what the filesystem errors are ? |
| 23:50.43 | freetos | ethernet wired |
| 23:50.49 | streuner | mangon: should work |
| 23:50.55 | *** join/#debian SEcki (n=SEcki@e181081182.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:50.58 | *** part/#debian Tenkawa (n=Tenkawa@unaffiliated/tenkawa) |
| 23:51.05 | mango | streuner: thanks |
| 23:51.06 | markybob | freetos, which chipset? dhcp? |
| 23:51.09 | cob | hatter: e2fsck? |
| 23:51.21 | intruder_ | hatter: fsck |
| 23:51.22 | *** join/#debian clayasaurus_ (n=chatzill@68-113-253-103.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 23:51.33 | streuner | levander: apt-get install <package> (hold), you'll see what packages would be installed or not |
| 23:51.36 | hatter | that is safe in init 2 ? |
| 23:51.44 | *** join/#debian wo0lverine (n=wo0lveri@ARouen-156-1-58-182.w90-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:51.46 | yell0w | how long more would you guys say etch will come out ? |
| 23:51.47 | flaminguican | In any event, looks like it is supported. I found the debian driver. It's ipw3945 |
| 23:51.55 | levander | streuner: why do you have hold in parens on that line? |
| 23:51.58 | cob | hatter: do you run volatile software in runlevel 2? |
| 23:51.59 | yell0w | 64 RC bugs ;( |
| 23:52.07 | freetos | markybob, does debian not detect dns settings from dhcp? |
| 23:52.11 | streuner | mango: partimage isn't in sarge/stable, just /msg dpkg simple sid backport or look at backports.org |
| 23:52.24 | intruder_ | hatter: i guess you can't do anything else |
| 23:52.32 | *** join/#debian istirbu (n=igor@85.204.111.197) |
| 23:52.41 | markybob | freetos, it does. my suggestion for you is to join irc.debian.org (which is not this server) and ask in #debian-boot which is the installer help channel |
| 23:52.46 | streuner | levander: i meant those packages which are held back |
| 23:52.47 | *** join/#debian ltsp4 (n=ltsp4@64.76.110.15) |
| 23:53.00 | flaccid | streuner: its a canon printer |
| 23:53.07 | ltsp4 | hi, hiow do I specify the default NIC? |
| 23:53.07 | levander | streuner: thanks |
| 23:53.22 | streuner | ltsp4: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 23:53.24 | flaccid | streuner: looks like the usb hub is only usb 1, but that shouldn't matter? |
| 23:54.01 | *** part/#debian mango (n=mango@82.152.252.135) |
| 23:54.05 | cob | ltsp4: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:54.16 | *** join/#debian BUMBACL0T (n=steady@ip70-160-26-12.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 23:55.05 | karsten | ltsp4: More specifically, the NIC you assign the most general default route to is the default. |
| 23:55.05 | ltsp4 | cob, I know that file, but what tag do I have to put to one NIC to tell that it is the default one? |
| 23:55.17 | karsten | ltsp4: Depending on what NICs you have and how much traffic is allocated to specific subnets, that NIC may or may not see most traffic. |
| 23:55.23 | *** join/#debian kiba_ (n=kiba@adsl-145-116-229.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:55.32 | karsten | ltsp4: man route |
| 23:55.35 | kiba_ | anybody a wireless router expert? |
| 23:55.42 | karsten | !tell kiba_ about ask |
| 23:55.46 | karsten | kiba_: Almost certainly. |
| 23:55.53 | ltsp4 | karsten, I have two NICs, one onboard one PCI, I want the onboard to be the default oine (eth0) |
| 23:56.01 | freetos | markybob, i'm gonna wait for centos5 and then install debian then as a guest os |
| 23:56.14 | *** join/#debian [0]Itachi|Uchiha (i=flupScri@AC904AFE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:56.15 | karsten | ltsp4: route add default gw <gateway> |
| 23:56.25 | karsten | ltsp4: ... and make sure the onboard one points to that gateway. |
| 23:56.26 | kupesoft | kiba_: I have a debian box acting as a wireless router, |
| 23:56.45 | kupesoft | kiba_: But, I'm not really an expert |
| 23:56.59 | *** part/#debian ben_goodger (n=ben@host86-147-250-16.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:57.04 | ltsp4 | karsten, I got it, thanks |
| 23:57.06 | streuner | flaccid: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 23:57.11 | kupesoft | kiba_: The folkes at #openwrt are experts, |
| 23:57.13 | cob | ltsp4: do you have these both plugged in all the time? |
| 23:57.41 | [0]Itachi|Uchiha | please join http://z6.invisionfree.com/DuelistRedemption/index.php |
| 23:57.41 | ltsp4 | cob, yep... one connects me to internet, the other to another network} |
| 23:57.42 | *** part/#debian [0]Itachi|Uchiha (i=flupScri@AC904AFE.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:57.56 | hatter | cob: volatile software ? its a firewall/fileserver, so there is volatile data on it, which is backed up, but still volatile i guess |
| 23:58.16 | cob | hatter: I guess I don't understand why fsck is more dangerous in runlevel 2 than 3. |
| 23:58.35 | hatter | cob: debian runs at runlevel 2 doesnt it ? |
| 23:58.59 | *** part/#debian Bac9 (n=Bac9@2001:5c0:8b02:1:250:4ff:fe61:35f7) |
| 23:59.15 | *** join/#debian sabbat (n=sabbat@203-206-125-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:59.18 | cob | ltsp4: sounds like karsten has it covered then; the onboard ethernet interface should have the default gateway route |
| 23:59.35 | karsten | cob: Actually, it's generally a bad idea outside boot time. Yes, default runlevel is 2, check 'initdefault' in /etc/inittab or '/sbin/runlevel'. |
