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| 05:22.35 | GreaseMonkey | no it doesn't, i get this error even when i apt-get update |
| 05:22.53 | GreaseMonkey | deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/ stable testing unstable nonfree |
| 05:22.55 | unlink | GreaseMonkey: run sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nz.debian.org_dists_stable_testing_binary-i386_Packages |
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| 05:24.18 | Dark_Apostrophe | Rusty1: Sid, 2.6.21-1-amd64 |
| 05:24.24 | GreaseMonkey | thanks |
| 05:25.52 | Rusty1 | Dark_Apostrophe: is the live cd that works amd64 as well? |
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| 05:26.30 | simonrvn | GreaseMonkey: that won't work |
| 05:27.02 | simonrvn | unlink: look at his line again |
| 05:27.11 | DragonD | anyone? |
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| 05:28.15 | Dark_Apostrophe | Rusty1: It's an AMD64 livecd, yes |
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| 05:28.58 | simonrvn | DragonD: #apache |
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| 05:30.07 | unlink | simonrvn: huh? |
| 05:30.14 | unlink | simonrvn: what's wrong with my command? |
| 05:30.32 | simonrvn | not your command, his 'deb' line |
| 05:31.09 | simonrvn | i'm not surprised he's getting errors with his apt-get update |
| 05:32.27 | GreaseMonkey | ok, how do i set it up for etch with stable, testing, main, and contrib packages? |
| 05:32.31 | Rusty1 | Dark_Apostrophe: gotta zz , check the versions of udev, hal , and the kde apps livecd vs. what you're running - maybe something there |
| 05:32.48 | GreaseMonkey | server is http://ftp.nz.debian.org |
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| 05:35.04 | simonrvn | 1) you don't mix dists, so pick one |
| 05:35.14 | GreaseMonkey | is this line right? deb http://security.debian.org/ stable contrib nonfree |
| 05:35.31 | GreaseMonkey | what components are there? |
| 05:35.33 | simonrvn | you need main in there too |
| 05:35.43 | simonrvn | stable main contrib non-free |
| 05:36.01 | streuner | deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main |
| 05:36.12 | streuner | s/sarge/etch/ |
| 05:36.24 | simonrvn | !bobbitt |
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| 05:36.25 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system. |
| 05:36.27 | GreaseMonkey | ok then, what happened with the "enigma" package? |
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| 05:37.10 | simonrvn | how or why would i know? |
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| 05:37.27 | GreaseMonkey | probably got nuked during the popcon |
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| 05:37.45 | GreaseMonkey | oh well |
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| 05:43.32 | sbk | Is there a canonical way to set up an "idle shutdown" so that X minutes after the last user input activity, the system shuts down? |
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| 05:45.35 | streuner | sounds like a job for cron |
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| 05:46.55 | streuner | but HOW you will measure "input activity", through some screensaver? |
| 05:47.35 | sbk | streuner: I don't really know. As far as _what_ I want, any lack of keyboard or mouse input for X minutes would be adequate for me |
| 05:48.13 | sbk | In short, I just want the thing to shut down automatically if I don't touch the keyboard or mouse for some time |
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| 05:51.16 | streuner | sbk: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1591590620&t=10931 |
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| 05:52.24 | Rodger | anyone knows how to exit fullscreen mode from remote desktop client? |
| 05:52.37 | Rodger | I mean in debian |
| 05:52.50 | Rodger | I am remotint from my debian box |
| 05:53.01 | Rodger | to a windowsxp in fullscreen mode |
| 05:53.09 | Rodger | how to exit this mode? |
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| 05:53.27 | Rodger | hello everyone |
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| 05:54.05 | sbk | streuner: ok, thanks |
| 05:54.28 | Rodger | anyone using remote desktop client? |
| 05:54.57 | sbk | Rodger: Ctrl-Alt-Enter |
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| 05:55.18 | Rodger | thanks sbk |
| 05:55.27 | Rodger | hm, this is great |
| 05:55.57 | sbk | "man rdesktop" has the full enchilada. I generally just run it at -g 85% or something, so I don't have to keep switching it out of full screen mode, but that's just me |
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| 05:57.51 | maddash | I just issued an upgrade through aptitude, and all of a sudden, cpufreq_{ondemand,powersave,stats,performance,conservative} get loaded. this never happened before the upgrade. what's going on? |
| 05:58.28 | maddash | ^^ get loaded at every boot |
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| 06:01.16 | maddash | freakin debian packages are getting sloppy as hell |
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| 06:01.56 | boudron | hello. how do i add xscreensaver programs that are not installed with it ? |
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| 06:06.11 | maddash | sudo mv loadcpufreq loadcpufreq.disabled.and.unnecessary |
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| 06:15.00 | boudron | hello. how do i add xscreensaver programs that are not installed with it ? |
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| 06:16.15 | streuner | !ops flooding... |
| 06:16.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: streuner complains about: flooding... |
| 06:16.22 | boudron | is there an X channel ? |
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| 06:16.49 | peterS | streuner: thanks - but it seems they're gone now.. |
| 06:16.55 | boudron | is there an X channel ? |
| 06:16.58 | boudron | hello. how do i add xscreensaver programs that are not installed with it ? |
| 06:17.11 | streuner | peterS: yeah, just in case... |
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| 06:19.44 | boudron | is there an X windows channel ? |
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| 06:20.30 | simonrvn | boudron: /msg chanserv list *X* |
| 06:21.03 | simonrvn | !tell boudron about repeat |
| 06:22.10 | boudron | do u axept xscreensaver questions here? |
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| 06:23.46 | streuner | we accept all questions, we prefer Debian related questions... |
| 06:24.08 | streuner | as long as you running Debian, its ok. |
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| 06:29.27 | scummos | does the debian GRUB-installtion work as well as suse´s one? so, if i tell debian to install grub, will it be able to recognize my other installed systems? |
| 06:30.09 | tictac | scummos: yes |
| 06:30.19 | tictac | scummos: it will see them as other linux partitions |
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| 06:33.33 | scummos | tictac> that´s good, thanks :) |
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| 06:34.02 | tictac | np |
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| 06:38.03 | ILyuha | hello, my Debian doesn't see 120Gb sata disk, how to fix it? |
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| 06:41.41 | tictac | modprobe the sata drivers? |
| 06:42.24 | ILyuha | tictac, what module to modprobe |
| 06:42.25 | ILyuha | ? |
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| 06:44.38 | tictac | what kind of controller do u have? |
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| 06:47.50 | ILyuha | tictac, how can i determine the kind of controller?))) sorry for stupid questions... |
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| 06:49.39 | ILyuha | tictac, 00:1f. ide interface: intel corporation 82801fb/fm (ich6/ich6w) sata controller (rev 05) |
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| 06:50.41 | meisam | HI, I have a problem with debian installation. when the Mirror selection page appears, it cannot connect to any mirror, what shoud i do? btw, i guess it doesn't recognise my NIC. |
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| 06:53.10 | meisam | hello |
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| 06:53.57 | DawnLight | ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver takes a long time to load at boot. do i need it? |
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| 06:55.31 | DawnLight | meisam: you can download the full dvds |
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| 06:56.55 | DawnLight | are you configuring your connection properly, meisam? |
| 06:57.04 | Mashuuk | Hi, How can I add ndiswrapper driver to Debian 4.0 netinstall ? |
| 06:57.11 | Mashuuk | and utils |
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| 06:58.03 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: use the netinst to install a basic system and then install ndiswrapper |
| 06:58.36 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, ndiswrapper I need wifi to install basic |
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| 06:59.30 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: the netinst iso contains packages to install a basic system |
| 06:59.34 | scopar | Hi, question, when upgrading a package with apt-get, if one accidentally doesn't update the config files (ie says No to all changes), is there any way to get a log of the config file changes or alternative to rerun the changes? |
| 07:00.07 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, ok but then I have no gcc, default kernel and no internet connectivity |
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| 07:00.57 | RAOF | I've got something of an obscure question (at least as far as my google-fu can tell): I've got a Sid install on crypt-lvm. I've (physically) changed my keyboard layout to dvorak, and know how to change the keymap everywhere but the LUKS prompt, which is making it difficult to enter my passphrase. Is there a boot parameter I can enter at the grub prompt to get a dvorak keymap there? |
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| 07:02.04 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, I would like to add to that iso image ndiswrapper so I can load driver during installation and install system via wifi |
| 07:02.21 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: no gcc? hmm... one way would be to burn all the packages and files you will need for the ndiswrapper on a seperate cd. another way would be to use the full isos instead of netinst. i've downloaded the 3 DVDs so i have many many packages available. |
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| 07:04.20 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: that would be complicated because isos are read-only and the installer doesn't know how to use ndiswrapper. i'd install what i can from the netinst and concentrate on installing ndiswrapper after that |
| 07:05.09 | DawnLight | and perhaps you don't need gcc, perhaps there is a compiled ndiswrapper module for the stable kernel |
| 07:05.31 | Adriano | guys, I want to thank you. A lot. |
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| 07:05.57 | Adriano | what I say could be taken as sarcasm, but it isn't |
| 07:06.11 | scopar | Alternatively, is there a way to have a package's configuration files re-installed completely? (wipe existing, install vanilla config files) |
| 07:06.19 | DawnLight | RAOF: ask GRUB people |
| 07:06.22 | Adriano | You haven't been able to answer a single one of my questions |
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| 07:06.29 | Adriano | yet that forced me to google better |
| 07:06.38 | Adriano | and in the end, I solved my problems |
| 07:06.49 | Adriano | and got a lot that I had forgotten |
| 07:06.53 | Adriano | so thank you |
| 07:06.55 | Adriano | sincerely |
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| 07:07.10 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, hmm right.. I'll try to check on mirror for packages and then during installation I can attach CD as another source :) |
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| 07:07.38 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, I wonder is it possible to make cd iso image as mirror for apt |
| 07:08.31 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, aptoncd :) |
| 07:08.35 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: it is. hold on... |
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| 07:09.20 | DawnLight | mashuuk: man apt-cdrom |
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| 07:09.59 | DawnLight | It is necessary to use apt-cdrom to add CDs to the APT system, it cannot be done by hand |
| 07:10.10 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, I know about apt-cdrom |
| 07:10.26 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, long time ago installed potate from iso images |
| 07:10.41 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, didnt know about util to create them:) |
| 07:10.59 | DawnLight | oh, you mean the iso files themselves... |
| 07:11.10 | Mashuuk | yes:) |
| 07:11.38 | RAOF | DawnLight: Oh, my question has an ambiguous "there", sorry. My grub prompt has the right keymap. But the luks prompt is after that, and doesn't have a dvorak keymap. I think I need to tell the init system to load a dvorak keymap before throwing up the luks prompt. |
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| 07:12.19 | DawnLight | you can do something like mount -loop thefile.iso /root/cdrom |
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| 07:13.51 | DawnLight | RAOF: i don't know how keymaps work... however, it sounds plausible that it can be configured from the bootloader |
| 07:14.18 | DawnLight | perhaps get the right keyboard and be done with it? |
| 07:14.34 | davidL | is it possible to pipe a command two different ways? |
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| 07:15.35 | davidL | and then use `join' to reconnect the two outputs? |
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| 07:15.50 | RAOF | DawnLight: Right :). I'll re-commence googling then. |
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| 07:20.01 | Sweetandy | Is there a way to execute a command in X without having to launch a terminal? |
| 07:21.31 | RAOF | For Gnome there is Alt+f2 |
| 07:21.45 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, ok the tool I found cant make iso for diffrent version of debian than the one I am using |
| 07:21.48 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, :( |
| 07:22.08 | Sweetandy | RAOF I use Blackbox 8 / |
| 07:22.43 | DawnLight | why are you making an iso? |
| 07:22.56 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, because I have to burn this |
| 07:23.14 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, ndiswrapper and modules |
| 07:23.16 | RAOF | Sweetandy: Awkward :). You'll want to check its manual, then. AFAIK, there's nothing inbuilt to X that does what you want |
| 07:23.27 | DawnLight | don't you have a cd/dvd burning app? |
| 07:23.48 | Sweetandy | RAOF: I seem to remember something where I can call commands to X from another terminal |
| 07:23.53 | Sweetandy | so that the term does not actually have to run in X |
| 07:24.05 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, apt-cdrom needs specyfic dir structure.. |
| 07:24.24 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, but ok I can install by hand if I fill dependeces |
| 07:24.32 | DawnLight | then don't use apt-cdrom |
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| 07:25.08 | RAOF | Sweetandy: Oh, yeah, you can do that. You just need to set the DISPLAY variable to the appropriate value (probably :0) |
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| 07:25.45 | RAOF | Sweetandy: So "DISPLAY=:0 foo" is probably what you want |
| 07:26.51 | Sweetandy | mmk |
| 07:27.29 | Sweetandy | RAOF YAY! |
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| 07:29.47 | DawnLight | yay |
| 07:30.56 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, is in netinstall gcc as default ? |
| 07:31.17 | DawnLight | i don't know |
| 07:31.35 | DawnLight | how do we find out the contents of isos... |
| 07:32.04 | DawnLight | i know. the jigdo files |
| 07:32.25 | DawnLight | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#which |
| 07:32.37 | utopia_ | Mashuuk, nope wasn't installed for me by default |
| 07:33.00 | RAOF | Argh. Once I can get into my system, it'll be easy to fix the keymap! Stupid crypto ;) |
| 07:33.24 | DawnLight | no... there isn't a jigdo for netinst |
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| 07:35.17 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: there is a jigdo for netinst http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=gcc |
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| 07:35.48 | Supaplex | but is there jigdo for a dual layer dvd? :) |
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| 07:37.40 | DawnLight | hmm... dual layer... yummy |
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| 07:40.42 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, there is gcc but no libc6-dev |
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| 07:44.42 | DawnLight | Mashuuk: figure out what you need according to the dependencies (which you can find at packages.debian.org) and put everything you need on a cd. then use dpkg -i whatever.deb to install your packages. either that or download the full cd images |
| 07:47.48 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, dependeces have dependences or suggested |
| 07:48.05 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, there is no libc6-dev in dependeces but its essential to compile it |
| 07:48.24 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, I dont understand it |
| 07:48.39 | DawnLight | i didn't understand you |
| 07:48.57 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, ndiswrapper-source has gcc in dependeces |
| 07:49.03 | Mashuuk | while gcc doesnt depend on libc6-deb |
| 07:49.05 | Mashuuk | dev |
| 07:49.06 | Mashuuk | funny |
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| 07:49.32 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, it just recommends it |
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| 07:49.54 | Mashuuk | DawnLight, you install gnu c compiler without development C library just for fun |
| 07:49.56 | Zordon | maybe gcc is selfsustainable |
| 07:50.35 | Mashuuk | Zordon, hm... |
| 07:51.56 | GreaseMonkey | that'd be lol telling someone that they have to compile gcc (when they're missing the binary) |
| 07:52.33 | GreaseMonkey | "gcc corrupted" "oh well you'll just have to recompile" |
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| 07:53.12 | Zordon | GreaseMonkey: With what? gcc himself |
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| 07:53.23 | GreaseMonkey | yep :D |
| 07:54.20 | Zordon | GreaseMonkey: Yea, I'll go to write my compiler from scratch. I can't waste my time thinking what is older, egg or chicken :) |
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| 07:56.49 | GreaseMonkey | chances are GCC was done in ASM originally |
| 07:57.00 | GreaseMonkey | the furtherest back you can go is the metal |
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| 07:59.34 | Zordon | I think it has been done in ASM, and afterwards it compiles himself and was written in C |
| 08:00.22 | wols | the time compilers were written in asm is loooong gone |
| 08:00.26 | wols | I doubt gcc ever was |
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| 08:03.25 | sid | There is that article from last night on digg. |
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| 08:05.35 | Kalamansi | hello debianeans |
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| 08:06.16 | unlink | sid: ? |
| 08:07.41 | unlink | how do you retroactively add support for a language like d-i does? |
| 08:07.46 | Kalamansi | hello guys, i want my debian to be my server in 10 pcs (xppro)..where shoud i set ip address of my isp,dns,gateway and ips of 10 pcs? |
| 08:08.05 | sid | er |
| 08:08.06 | sid | heh |
| 08:08.12 | sid | http://gcc.gnu.org/releases.html#timeline |
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| 08:08.31 | Kalamansi | sharing internet |
| 08:08.36 | sid | wols / Zordon / GreaseMonkey .. now just need to find a copy of gcc 1.0 |
| 08:09.50 | sid | Kalamansi: Just connect them all to a switch, and statically set the debian box as 10.0.0.1 on eth0; than connect to the Internet on eth1 |
| 08:09.53 | wols | Kalamansi: you get your debian on te internet, then use ipmasq. and connect your LAN switch to the 2nd network card. you also want dnsmasq to run as dns proxy and dhcp server |
| 08:10.13 | wols | !tell unlink about locales |
| 08:10.36 | Azar | Kalamansi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 08:10.58 | sid | Kalamansi: than do iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 08:11.08 | wols | sid: no |
| 08:11.15 | sid | Kalamansi: Than just set each machine statically so it has whatever dns(4.2.2.2) and the gateway of 10.0.0.1 |
| 08:11.33 | wols | sid: there are better ways than that |
| 08:11.37 | wols | much better |
| 08:11.38 | sid | Or if you really want to, setup a dhcp daemon |
| 08:11.52 | Kalamansi | where to get the ipmasq? |
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| 08:12.03 | wols | Kalamansi: via aptitude. it's a debian package |
| 08:12.04 | Kalamansi | sorry first time to use debian linux |
| 08:12.18 | wols | Kalamansi: does your debian box have two network cards? |
| 08:12.27 | Kalamansi | no sir |
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| 08:12.33 | Kalamansi | one only |
| 08:12.38 | Gigantic | .!boo |
| 08:12.42 | wols | Kalamansi: then you'd have it a lot harder. so hard that I don't advise you to do it |
| 08:12.47 | Zordon | sid: Hmm, I think it gcc wasn't wrote in asm, I made mistake |
| 08:12.59 | wols | Kalamansi: your one network card is connected to your modem for internet? |
| 08:13.02 | Zordon | sid: To much asm for me |
| 08:13.07 | Kalamansi | are you going to sleep? |
| 08:13.08 | Kalamansi | yes sir |
| 08:13.20 | Kalamansi | i can get lancard sir from server xpro |
| 08:13.23 | wols | Kalamansi: then buy another one. costs 10$ max |
| 08:13.32 | Kalamansi | it will take 10 minutes to attach |
| 08:13.37 | Kalamansi | no no |
| 08:13.38 | wols | I am no "sir". no one on irc is |
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| 08:13.40 | GreaseMonkey | now i will use mah ASM to scare j00!!! MOV eax,[ecx+0x8] |
| 08:13.40 | Kalamansi | its in my back sir |
| 08:13.43 | wols | good |
| 08:13.52 | Kalamansi | i want debian to be my server |
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| 08:14.06 | Kalamansi | coz xppro os here cost me headache |
| 08:14.10 | wols | GreaseMonkey: we're in GNU land. here we use AT%T syntax Mister! |
| 08:14.13 | Kalamansi | i always reformat |
| 08:14.36 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: you want to route Internet right? |
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| 08:14.53 | GreaseMonkey | wols: i use nasm damnnit |
| 08:15.13 | Kalamansi | Gigantic: this is what i want sir.let me explain sir bare with me im not good in english. |
| 08:15.16 | Kalamansi | here we go |
| 08:15.20 | DawnLight | some help with nvidia proprietary configuration? fullscreen games appear at an offset of half the screen to the right, which means the right half of the game is off screen :-/. i am using twinview. is anyone familiar with this? |
| 08:15.32 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: oops |
| 08:15.38 | Kalamansi | Gigantic:i have switch |
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| 08:15.50 | Kalamansi | 10 pcs 1 server |
| 08:15.59 | Kalamansi | i want my server to be debian |
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| 08:16.03 | GreaseMonkey | i'm doing something then heading to bed. cya. |
| 08:16.08 | Kalamansi | so i could block all virus |
| 08:16.20 | Azar | Kalamansi: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 08:16.21 | wols | Kalamansi: it won't |
| 08:16.22 | Kalamansi | i want to connect the 10 winxp pro |
| 08:16.45 | wols | Kalamansi: a NAT router is no filtering proxy |
| 08:16.57 | Kalamansi | i see |
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| 08:17.04 | unsolo | I upgraded to etch now i cant ssh into the box what do i have to do to fix that |
| 08:17.18 | wols | what you'd need is some Virus filtering proxy for debian which I dunno if that even exists |
| 08:17.18 | Kalamansi | i think i am a noob network admin here in the city |
| 08:17.27 | celtics_fan | wow sicko was perhaps the most moving filmI have seen |
| 08:17.28 | wols | unsolo: is ssh running? |
| 08:17.36 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: 'To connect' you mean to route Internet trough the Debian basstion right? |
| 08:17.53 | Greyscale | Hey. My machine doesn't get an IP, whilst my laptop does |
| 08:17.59 | Greyscale | my laptop does DHCPREQUEST first |
| 08:18.07 | Greyscale | and the server jumps to DHCPDISCOVER |
| 08:18.12 | streuner | Greyscale: so DHCP |
| 08:18.19 | streuner | Greyscale: tried pump? |
| 08:18.20 | Greyscale | How can I make the server's dhclient behave differently? |
| 08:18.23 | wols | Greyscale: are we talking public IPs or internal ones? |
| 08:18.26 | Greyscale | hmm? |
| 08:18.28 | Greyscale | internal |
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| 08:18.33 | Azar | :) |
| 08:18.34 | Greyscale | 10.10.10.x |
| 08:18.40 | wols | Greyscale: check if the link is even up |
| 08:18.43 | Kalamansi | im working at the company where we have writers/researchers - who doing research and download stuff (which are not good because of virus and i need to protect the server) web developers who are also doing downloads stuff |
| 08:18.49 | Kalamansi | i really need advice here |
| 08:18.56 | Greyscale | wols, it is |
| 08:19.05 | subx | Greyscale, have u ever considered CMYK or RGB? |
| 08:19.09 | wols | Greyscale: how do you _know? |
| 08:19.10 | Kalamansi | everyday i reinstall xppro or scan anti virus |
| 08:19.12 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: You can use racoon for that, however, another card is indeed the best idea, you'd have much more control and also safer |
| 08:19.13 | Kalamansi | =/ |
| 08:19.20 | Greyscale | the machine says the eth0 up on tty1 |
| 08:19.23 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: Bu tWin is Win |
| 08:19.27 | Greyscale | and the lights come on |
| 08:19.35 | wols | Kalamansi: the windows viruses won't affect the linux box that'S true. but it won't stop (easily) the winodws PCs from getting infected |
| 08:19.53 | wols | Gigantic: link to racoon? |
| 08:19.54 | Gigantic | Kalamansi: My XP has no Internet at all |
| 08:20.01 | Kalamansi | wols: okay.i will use depress for xpro? |
| 08:20.27 | wols | Kalamansi: I dunno what depress is and we don't care about XP at all. this is OT. all we care about is your debian |
| 08:20.35 | Kalamansi | diprezz or whatever |
| 08:20.44 | Kalamansi | ok sorry |
| 08:20.48 | Kalamansi | first time here |
| 08:20.50 | Greyscale | streuner, pump? |
| 08:20.53 | Kalamansi | im so sorry for talking about xp |
| 08:21.05 | Greyscale | so you should be |
| 08:21.10 | wols | no worries. so does the debian box have a 2nd network card now? |
| 08:21.17 | Greyscale | thats like walking into church with a demon. |
| 08:21.19 | Azar | Kalamansi: as wols said, Debian will not protect your PCs that have another operating system |
| 08:21.20 | wols | Greyscale: don't make him more deferential than he already is |
| 08:21.23 | Greyscale | :P |
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| 08:21.36 | Kalamansi | nope wols i will shutdown first and put the lancard..can you wait sir? |
| 08:21.41 | boudron | where do i get programs / demos to add to xscreensaver ? |
| 08:21.48 | Greyscale | Azar, but a proxy and scanning the in/out traffic would. |
| 08:21.48 | Kalamansi | Azar: ok right |
| 08:21.49 | wols | yes we can wait |
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| 08:22.15 | wols | Greyscale: oh great one where is a virus scanning and blocking proxy in debian? |
| 08:22.17 | Kalamansi | this is really pain in my head coz programmers here use windows xp |
| 08:22.18 | Greyscale | debian+proxy+dans guardian+clamav |
| 08:22.22 | Azar | Greyscale: why then don't you tell him to get advice from those who support his Operating System? |
| 08:22.32 | wols | in fact is ther one at all except with enterprise solutions for $$$? |
| 08:22.47 | Greyscale | dans guardian+clamav |
| 08:22.51 | wols | does clamav support http? |
| 08:22.57 | Greyscale | and force them to do their browsing through the proxy |
| 08:22.58 | celtics_fan | so what web powerign programs are we using folks? |
| 08:23.05 | unsolo | wols: i dont know |
| 08:23.06 | Greyscale | yeah, dans guardian forces traffic through clamav |
| 08:23.07 | unsolo | seems to be |
| 08:23.10 | celtics_fan | what do you do to get dynamic content up on the web? |
| 08:23.15 | Kalamansi | okay i will put the lancard |
| 08:23.16 | unsolo | im 2000m from the box |
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| 08:23.25 | Kalamansi | let see what happen |
| 08:23.34 | unsolo | but it sends a key then complains about public key |
| 08:23.34 | Azar | celtics_fan: opera, firefox have plugins, check them out |
| 08:23.41 | Kalamansi | first im gonna save our conversitions |
| 08:23.41 | Greyscale | anyonw know what he ment by "pump"? |
| 08:23.42 | wols | celtics_fan: a programming language on the webserver. usually php, ruby, perl, python. beware of php. maybe exploits |
| 08:24.00 | Greyscale | PHP is easiest to write, however |
| 08:24.06 | Greyscale | and most sites are written in PHP. |
| 08:24.12 | wols | unsolo: then possibly the ssh key has changed. delete your loacl key for it |
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| 08:24.43 | wols | Greyscale: pump is a dhcp client |
| 08:24.56 | wols | streuner: that one is obsolete. probably since woody or earlier :) |
| 08:25.26 | wols | Greyscale: on the machine where eth doesn't work: dmesg |grep eth |
| 08:26.04 | unsolo | wols: i have tried deleting the key in known_hosts |
| 08:26.07 | unsolo | didnt help |
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| 08:26.51 | wols | unsolo: do you have a console on the etch machine? |
| 08:26.54 | Gigantic | wols: My mistake... I were out of Debian for a long long time. And I got used too much to the other distro, there's no racoon for Debian seamingly :( |
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| 08:27.04 | unsolo | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 08:27.06 | wols | Gigantic: what is racoon? |
| 08:27.09 | unsolo | i have in about 20 minutes |
| 08:27.21 | unsolo | just want to make shure i know what to do to fix it |
| 08:27.22 | Gigantic | wols: it's a router software |
| 08:27.32 | Gigantic | wols: lemme see if I get a link... |
| 08:27.33 | wols | unsolo: are you using keyboard based auth or key based only= |
| 08:27.34 | wols | ? |
| 08:27.46 | unsolo | hmm |
| 08:27.48 | unsolo | im not shure |
| 08:27.53 | wols | Gigantic: I gathered that much, which is why Im so interested in it |
| 08:27.55 | unsolo | think i neet to reconfigure it |
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| 08:28.21 | wols | unsolo: if yiou have to type a password: keyboaard based. if no password ever but a certififcate file: RSA key based |
| 08:28.46 | unsolo | i usually had to type a password yes |
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| 08:29.30 | wols | then there shouldn't be a proble, what is your ssh client? |
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| 08:30.44 | Kalamansi | reboot |
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| 08:32.46 | edistar | I have two ultrasparc 10s, would it be possible to set them up so that the act as one webserver? |
| 08:33.13 | tictac | of course. |
| 08:33.29 | unsolo | wols: think i might have accidently reconfigured it to be key based |
| 08:33.37 | edistar | tictac: any information? can this be set in apache itself? |
| 08:33.41 | unsolo | so i think i will go to the box and reconfigure openssh |
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| 08:33.47 | wols | unsolo: edit sshd.conf |
| 08:33.55 | tictac | install debian on it and then use apache |
| 08:34.19 | wols | edistar: loadbalancing usually needs special gear |
| 08:34.38 | wols | tictac: a little more is needed than that... |
| 08:35.01 | tictac | oh |
| 08:35.07 | Arafangion | wols: It's a valid prerequesite for an answer in #debian, though ;) |
| 08:35.16 | tictac | i read it was "one act as a webserver" |
| 08:35.55 | wols | Arafangion: still doesn't answer the question :) |
| 08:36.25 | wols | stoned: no tail and I'm very nice this morning. I didn't even get sarcastic to Kalamansi. ain't you proud of me? |
| 08:36.35 | tictac | fog is awesome. its only 96 degrees today because of it. |
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| 08:37.49 | Azar | wols: I was curious on how much patience you had |
| 08:38.06 | wols | Azar: the real test will be when/if he comes back |
| 08:38.24 | Azar | wols: there is also sunday... |
| 08:38.42 | wols | eeek! |
| 08:38.49 | Azar | then monday stew kicks in with a whip |
| 08:39.02 | Gigantic | wols: http://ipsec-tools.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:39.07 | wols | monday is 14h off |
| 08:39.40 | wols | Gigantic: what does key exchange have to do with routing |
| 08:39.42 | wols | ? |
| 08:40.19 | Gigantic | *scratch |
| 08:40.27 | edistar | wols: what kind of special gear? I thought of setting one up as master and one as slave |
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| 08:41.29 | wols | edistar: that is a failover. not loadbalancing |
| 08:41.47 | edistar | wols: okey |
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| 08:42.21 | edistar | wols: I just thought that one pc could just forward the request if it got too much :P |
| 08:42.53 | Arafangion | edistar: Ahh, but isn't it too busy for that? ;) |
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| 08:43.13 | Arafangion | edistar: And having now got the request, it might as well answer it. |
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| 08:43.17 | edistar | Arafangion: I thought it might just have a few cycles left for that ;) |
| 08:43.25 | vahid | hi |
| 08:43.30 | edistar | Arafangion: no, seriously, I didn't have any idea.. |
| 08:43.32 | edistar | vahid: hi |
| 08:43.38 | wols | edistar: if you don't max your network link speed it's possibly in software yes |
| 08:44.02 | Gigantic | wols: m... in the runlevel description say 'routing daemon' |
| 08:44.06 | edistar | wols: can you recommend anything, software or so? |
| 08:44.18 | Gigantic | wols: but seem it's IKE |
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| 08:44.42 | wols | edistar: no, sorry |
| 08:44.48 | edistar | wols: thanks anyway |
| 08:46.45 | Dark_Apostrophe | Are there any Debian Project people here who work with package licenses and such? |
| 08:47.11 | vahid | i install debian 4.0 ETCH, but i can't configure my NVidia 7100 card, where can i active 3d accelerator? |
| 08:47.47 | cahoot | !nvidia-etch |
| 08:47.52 | Dark_Apostrophe | vahid: www.nvidia.com |
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| 08:48.47 | Azar | Dark_Apostrophe: don't recommend the proprietary blob! |
| 08:48.57 | Dark_Apostrophe | He wants 3D. |
| 08:49.05 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: don't tell people this please |
| 08:49.11 | wols | !tell vahid about nvidia post-etch |
| 08:49.12 | Dark_Apostrophe | The only alternative is the nouveau driver, and it hardly works |
| 08:49.13 | Azar | !nvidia one-liner |
| 08:49.14 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 08:49.16 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sorry |
| 08:49.16 | Guerin | Dark_Apostrophe: so tell him to do it the debian way |
| 08:49.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | Okay, sorry. |
| 08:49.27 | Dark_Apostrophe | My bad |
| 08:49.28 | Guerin | otherwise you get to support him in #nvidia |
| 08:49.33 | Guerin | ;) |
| 08:49.47 | Azar | good evening mister Guerin |
| 08:49.56 | Dark_Apostrophe | Anyway, can anyone please answer my question about half a page up? Or should i repeat it? |
| 08:49.57 | boudron | where do i get programs / demos to add to xscreensaver ? |
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| 08:51.30 | Azar | Dark_Apostrophe: I doubt... but there are people who know people who know Debian Project people |
| 08:51.50 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: check the debian-legal ML |
| 08:51.59 | wols | if you want any debian related legal advice, it's the place to go |
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| 08:52.09 | Dark_Apostrophe | ok |
| 08:52.11 | Guerin | then go to your lawyer |
| 08:52.23 | Guerin | but the list will tell you that if there's any ambiguity |
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| 08:52.33 | wols | Guerin: imho I'd trust debian-legal more when it relates to debian stuff |
| 08:52.41 | Guerin | d-l is one of the most interesting lists there is, from a free software perspective |
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| 08:52.46 | Guerin | wols: i agree. |
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| 08:53.02 | Guerin | wols: barring a few specialist software lawyers |
| 08:53.08 | RAOF | Nouveau almost does glxgears on my 7600Go :) |
| 08:53.08 | wols | of course in the end it's a judge that decides. not the lawyer not debian-legal :) |
| 08:53.19 | Guerin | RAOF: man, it's coming along fast |
| 08:53.31 | wols | Guerin: yes but finding those is kinda hard. MS, IBM and Sun all scooped those up :) |
| 08:53.36 | Guerin | wols: don't judges just do what lawyers tell 'em? |
| 08:53.41 | vahid | I install debian 4 from 3 DVD and i remove online update, i have not nvidia-glx in my packages( 3 DVD, apt-cache search? ) , it's my first debian installition :) |
| 08:53.42 | Guerin | that's how it is on Boston Legal |
| 08:53.47 | Azar | Guerin: and six months ago you were laughing in my beard when I got hyper over nouveau |
| 08:54.01 | wols | Guerin: you get this wrong. judges do what the men with the money suitcases tell them |
| 08:54.13 | Guerin | Azar: i was. And I still am. Maybe in another six months I won't be ;) |
| 08:54.16 | Azar | vahid: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 08:54.25 | Guerin | wols: mm, they always miss that bit out of the courtroom dramas. |
| 08:54.28 | vahid | Azar, tnx |
| 08:54.34 | Guerin | anyway, time for to watch the rugbies. |
| 08:54.40 | Azar | fun |
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| 08:54.45 | wols | Azar: I agree with guerin here. maybe it will be usable one day. but history for similar things tells us the other outcome is much more likely unfortunately |
| 08:55.06 | wols | Guerin: btw, the lawyers do too. but then, judges are lawyers |
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| 08:55.13 | Azar | wols: I still believe they gonna do it... then debian gonna fix it |
| 08:55.29 | wols | debian certainly won't fix it being a distro and all |
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| 08:55.42 | wols | except perhaps dpkg, debian doesn't do software dev and it's not their job |
| 08:55.56 | wols | they o an excellent QA work tho (e.g. X strike force) |
| 08:56.02 | Azar | well there are packages that don't pass in stable until they get neutered |
| 08:56.09 | Azar | er fixerd |
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| 08:56.21 | wols | as I said: QA. not development |
| 08:56.30 | Azar | oh yes |
| 08:56.36 | vahid | how can i check is blahblah.dep package installed? |
| 08:56.51 | wols | dunno how it's with Xorg, but for XFree86 debian basically was the X QA team since it had all those platforms |
| 08:57.10 | wols | so fi you wanted XFree on an S/390, Debian was your place to go |
| 08:57.19 | wols | vahid: dpkg -l | blahblah |
| 08:57.24 | wols | vahid: dpkg -l |grep blahblah |
| 08:57.37 | vahid | wols, tnx! very nice |
| 08:57.59 | davidL | how do you make a # not a comment in a bash script, I'm trying to use it in an echo |
| 08:58.02 | unsolo | wolf im at the server now |
| 08:58.03 | Azar | since I just found out that the 2.6.x kernels were voted to be passed in stable with debris... I am afraid to upgrade anymore |
| 08:58.11 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: }# |
| 08:58.13 | unsolo | what do i type to reconfigure the ssh |
| 08:58.14 | wols | \# |
| 08:58.15 | Azar | afraid no.... apathic rather |
| 08:58.35 | davidL | wols: which? \# or }# |
| 08:58.41 | wols | davidL: \# |
| 08:58.44 | Gigantic | \# |
| 08:58.45 | davidL | thank you |
| 08:58.47 | wols | unsolo: try dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server |
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| 08:58.59 | wols | unsolo: but you might have to edit sshd.conf directly |
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| 08:59.10 | unsolo | ok |
| 08:59.11 | wols | unsolo: heck, uninstall and purge(!) it all and reinstall it |
| 09:00.35 | unsolo | good plan |
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| 09:01.31 | Azar | vahid: and another thing: if you want to install nvidia driver you need to edit your sources.list by adding non-free contrib at the end of each source |
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| 09:03.50 | Azar | wols: curious maybe this is the new policy but I remember back when I was installing woody, the installer was asking me if I want to use non-free, non-us and contrib... now I see sources list in etch does not have them |
| 09:04.33 | wols | Azar: no clue actually. and I rarely install debian tbh :) |
| 09:04.48 | Azar | :) |
| 09:04.59 | wols | Azar: was only last week I used the GUI installer for the first time and its partitin drove me nuts. damn thing watned to format my / |
| 09:05.02 | valdyn | Azar: it still asks |
| 09:05.16 | unsolo | that worked.. |
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| 09:05.24 | wols | I still think that that partitioner has a bug |
| 09:05.29 | Azar | wols: same thing I crashed at sarge installer: the partitioning |
| 09:05.29 | x3on | hi, i'm going to install Debian and i want to use XFCE. should i just download the usual netinst and install xfce afterwards or is the debian-XFCE cd for that? |
| 09:05.38 | unsolo | now to fix my clamav issue on my mailserver |
| 09:05.40 | unsolo | any ideas |
| 09:05.48 | wols | x3on: install xfce afterwards imho |
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| 09:06.02 | wols | x3on: netinst is best. just don't select anything on tasksel step at install imho |
| 09:06.06 | Azar | wols: I tried to install Sarge 3 times, couldn't pass the partitioner, so I gave up and installed woody |
| 09:06.07 | x3on | thanks wol - the XFCE cd isnt a netinst is it? |
| 09:06.19 | wols | x3on: no. it's CD1 with xfce instead of gnome |
| 09:06.27 | davidL | ./filedesc.sh: line 15: syntax error near unexpected token `<' |
| 09:06.27 | davidL | ./filedesc.sh: line 15: `echo '</body></html>'' |
| 09:06.31 | x3on | cool big help cheers wol |
| 09:06.43 | davidL | someone help me :( :( :( |
| 09:06.50 | wols | !help davidL |
| 09:06.56 | wols | !fix davidL |
| 09:07.02 | wols | now you've been helped for life |
| 09:07.03 | Azar | hehe |
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| 09:07.08 | |Cordyce| | hello |
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| 09:07.24 | wols | davidL: you need to escape your < > and other things like that |
| 09:07.35 | |Cordyce| | i have a question regarding the installation of tftp on a kubuntu workstation |
| 09:07.41 | davidL | but I'm using single quoted echos |
| 09:07.47 | Azar | davidL: hello to you too, thanks for telling us what operating system and its version you are using, and what is your problem |
| 09:07.52 | unsolo | jesus this mail server is messsed up |
| 09:07.53 | wols | |Cordyce|: you are OT. ask #kubuntu, not us |
| 09:08.20 | |Cordyce| | basically i ran apt-get install etc for tftp, and am not using inetd |
| 09:08.21 | davidL | it's not an operating system error so I don't see why that is relevant |
| 09:08.38 | wols | davidL: then it's not a #debian question. have a good day |
| 09:08.40 | Azar | |Cordyce|: we do not know about kunbutu here |
| 09:08.43 | wols | davidL: PS: ask #bash |
| 09:08.59 | |Cordyce| | isnt linux mostly the same? |
| 09:09.02 | davidL | wols: single quotes are stronger than normal quotes so there is no need to escape |
| 09:09.02 | wols | !tell |Cordyce| about kubuntu |
| 09:09.07 | wols | |Cordyce|: no |
| 09:09.13 | Azar | wols: he is a linux beginner he does not know |
| 09:09.23 | Azar | |Cordyce|: try asking in #kunbutu channel |
| 09:09.24 | wols | davidL: I told you we don't dive a damn. ask #bash |
| 09:09.29 | DragonD | suggestions for a good ftp server? with mysql auth support... |
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| 09:09.45 | valdyn | |Cordyce|: mostly yes, but the differences are sufficient to making support accross distros different |
| 09:09.46 | wols | davidL: proftpd or pureftpd I guess |
| 09:09.47 | wols | but: |
| 09:09.50 | wols | !ftpmustdie |
| 09:09.50 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
| 09:09.55 | davidL | .... |
| 09:09.57 | wols | erm: DragonD |
| 09:10.02 | assasukasse | hi all, i have a question about sshd, if i issue killall sshd, the ssh server would restart automatically or i have to start manually? and if i wanna drop all the ssh incoming connections, /etc/init.d/sshd restart would do the trick or not? |
| 09:10.15 | wols | assasukasse: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 09:10.16 | |Cordyce| | what irc lients yall using |
| 09:10.18 | valdyn | assasukasse: no |
| 09:10.24 | DragonD | mirc |
| 09:10.28 | |Cordyce| | im using kvirc |
| 09:10.28 | Azar | irssi |
| 09:10.35 | wols | assasukasse: and to drop all you need to stop sshd. and then kill all sshd proceses |
| 09:10.37 | |Cordyce| | i dont like mirc because its commercial |
| 09:10.47 | wols | !tell |Cordyce| about polls |
| 09:10.51 | assasukasse | oki thanks. |
| 09:11.05 | wols | |Cordyce|: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 09:11.14 | wols | just as well |
| 09:11.53 | assasukasse | +another small question, i use vnc tru ssh tunnelling, so i issue a ssh -nNTf -L blablabla, when i close vnc, and the terminal, the ssh tunnel remains on, how can i make it close when i close the terminal |
| 09:11.54 | Azar | well the day isn't over yet, expect more incoming |
| 09:12.28 | valdyn | assasukasse: you kill it explicitely |
| 09:12.41 | assasukasse | valdyn: so i have to killall ssh |
| 09:13.05 | valdyn | assasukasse: that kills all 'ssh' processes |
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| 09:14.11 | jetscreamer | !info nvidia-glx lenny |
| 09:14.15 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.8776-4 (lenny), Packaged size: 3217 kB, Installed size: 10624 kB |
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| 09:16.06 | jetscreamer | i'm using raw sockets |
| 09:17.04 | assasukasse | thanks all |
| 09:17.14 | assasukasse | is there anyone using gnome-schedule? |
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| 09:20.44 | DragonD | wols: so ftp must die.. i agree.. same with the email system. |
| 09:21.11 | wols | !anyone use gnome-schedule |
| 09:21.11 | dpkg | No, no one uses gnome-schedule, not even the people who use it. |
| 09:21.17 | DragonD | wols: what are "faster" alternatives to ftp? |
| 09:21.25 | assasukasse | lol wols :D |
| 09:21.26 | wols | DragonD: nothing |
| 09:21.47 | DragonD | wols: no alternatives? |
| 09:21.56 | wols | but with being fully cleartext and the braindead way it uses ports, that's enough reasons not to use it anymore |
| 09:22.16 | wols | use http(s) and sftp |
| 09:23.22 | DragonD | wols: sftp is more secure but i don't consider it near as fast. and with http how can you upload? with out some sort of cgi/php or other script/program? |
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| 09:23.48 | wols | webdav I guess |
| 09:23.56 | assasukasse | DragonD: i use http in my server for uploading files, just a simple php script |
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| 09:28.46 | unlink | wols: there's more to it than that: some packages might be installed for certain languages |
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| 09:29.38 | hsimah | hey i was hoping someone could help me with an issue with xine. when i used it under debian i could open files from windows locations over the network via smb |
| 09:29.49 | hsimah | but now im using debian i cant figure out how to do that |
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| 09:30.06 | hsimah | i dont mind changing media players if theres a better one, xines just all ive used under linux |
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| 09:31.01 | Dorward | I'vr just install Debian on a systel just built around a Shuttle box. It gets to grub, then says that it is Booting 'Debian etc etc', lists the grub commands, then stops. |
| 09:31.16 | Dorward | Has anyone encountered something like this before? |
| 09:32.07 | DragonD | does proftpd support ssl? |
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| 09:32.42 | Joris | DragonD: afaik yes |
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| 09:33.07 | Joris | Dorward: I think you might need to copy the commands it lists |
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| 09:36.14 | shafire | hi |
| 09:36.19 | shafire | how can i get ruby1.8.6 |
| 09:36.22 | shafire | is there a package? |
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| 09:37.29 | Dorward | http://dorward.me.uk/tmp/commands is all that gets output before the system tops (the cursor blinks a couple of lines down from savedefault) |
| 09:37.44 | TrueDD | Salut tous |
| 09:37.45 | unlink | when i do a debian install with qemu, it hangs 50% into the grub-install process. should i file a bug for qemu, grub or debian-installer? |
| 09:37.51 | TrueDD | hi all |
| 09:38.26 | wols | unlink: there are user-XX packages |
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| 09:39.23 | Ranpha1 | does python in debian have rvsg support? i need it to compile a package |
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| 09:40.40 | unlink | wols: oh, thanks |
| 09:41.42 | wols | Ranpha1: what debian version? |
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| 09:41.47 | unlink | wols: it only exists for {{euro-{,es},he,ja} |
| 09:41.50 | Ranpha1 | etch |
| 09:41.53 | Ranpha1 | wols etch |
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| 09:42.26 | wols | Ranpha1: no rsvg support. gnome added it in 2.15, etch ships with 2.14 |
| 09:42.34 | wols | Ranpha1: next time before youa sk here something: google first |
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| 09:44.13 | babo | guys, anyone in here has crypt-luks experience ? I'm trying to encrypt my drive, but it just says 'Command Failed' ... |
| 09:44.14 | babo | :-( |
| 09:44.16 | valdyn | Dorward: looks like grub is 'stuck' loading the initrd.. |
| 09:44.37 | valdyn | Dorward: you you _really_ forgot the 'boot' command in there |
| 09:44.42 | valdyn | Dorward: or you _really_ forgot the 'boot' command in there |
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| 09:45.41 | valdyn | Dorward: uh nm, it doesnt seem to be needed.. |
| 09:46.00 | wols | !dmcrypt |
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| 09:46.10 | Jebediah | ok, this is bizarre. I load up a complex webpage and get horrible latency when switching windows. Mouse is jerky and everything. I use a debian packaged kernel and it goes away? What the hell config option could it be? |
| 09:46.11 | Dorward | valdyn: The grub config was generated by the Debian installer |
| 09:46.36 | valdyn | Dorward: is that fresh install? |
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| 09:48.06 | unsolo | crap |
| 09:48.29 | unsolo | after installing etch my old sarge vhost mail clients arent working properly |
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| 09:49.07 | Dorward | valdyn: Yes |
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| 09:50.25 | valdyn | Dorward: is /boot a really a seperate partition? |
| 09:50.35 | Dorward | valdyn: Yes |
| 09:51.01 | valdyn | Dorward: which cpu? |
| 09:51.11 | Dorward | valdyn: Core 2 Duo |
| 09:51.35 | valdyn | Dorward: you installed an athlon64 kernel on a core 2 duo system |
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| 09:52.11 | Dorward | valdyn: I was under the impression that the 64 bit kernels were for both. |
| 09:52.51 | xand | they are. |
| 09:53.00 | valdyn | Dorward: the install arch is debian/amd64 right? |
| 09:53.26 | xand | amd64 is for 64-bit intel chips too (not itanium) |
| 09:53.30 | Dorward | valdyn: Yes |
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| 09:54.10 | valdyn | Dorward: i cant see the complete information about the kernel you installed |
| 09:54.15 | valdyn | Dorward: not from that grub output |
| 09:54.28 | valdyn | Dorward: did you install that image explicitely or is that the default? |
| 09:55.06 | Dorward | valdyn: The default from a netinst cd image downloaded from mirrorservice.ac.uk last week. |
| 09:55.16 | valdyn | Dorward: ok - that one is fine.. |
| 09:55.31 | Dorward | s/ac.uk/org/ |
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| 09:56.16 | xand | yay mirrorservice.org |
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| 09:56.48 | valdyn | Dorward: there's no more useful info in that output.. |
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| 09:58.24 | davidL | where is opera :( |
| 09:58.39 | davidL | !opera |
| 09:58.39 | dpkg | Opera is a cross-platform web browser and Internet suite which handles common internet-related tasks including visiting web sites, sending and receiving e-mail messages. Opera is Freeware (>=Version 8.5), but NOT Open-Source. |
| 09:58.42 | xand | in an opera house? |
| 09:59.00 | xand | davidL: they provide .debs on their website. |
| 09:59.06 | davidL | oh |
| 09:59.07 | Dorward | valdyn: OK. Thanks anyway. I'm going to dig around with a live CD and see if I can find more information. |
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| 09:59.18 | jetscreamer | it's not in non-free? |
| 09:59.37 | jetscreamer | !info opera |
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| 09:59.51 | peter___ | Hello :) |
| 10:00.02 | davidL | what's another browser? beside opera and firefox, I just need to test something really quick |
| 10:00.09 | Dorward | davidL: lynx |
| 10:00.16 | davidL | graphical ;P |
| 10:00.26 | jetscreamer | elinks |
| 10:00.27 | Dorward | davidL: Konqueror |
| 10:00.28 | pabs3 | dillo |
| 10:00.33 | jetscreamer | amaya |
| 10:00.36 | jetscreamer | :0 |
| 10:00.44 | davidL | dillo wins |
| 10:00.52 | jetscreamer | epiphany |
| 10:00.56 | jetscreamer | ie |
| 10:00.56 | pabs3 | w0000h0000 |
| 10:00.57 | unsolo | and suddenly it works |
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| 10:02.05 | TrueDD | re |
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| 10:02.12 | Jymmm | how can you automagically reboot after running fsck? |
| 10:02.27 | valdyn | Jymmm: what's the point? |
| 10:02.48 | Jymmm | valdyn: Need to fsck then reboot automatically |
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| 10:02.53 | Jymmm | once |
| 10:03.02 | cahoot | shutdown -rF then |
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| 10:03.11 | valdyn | Jymmm: fsck && shutodnw -r now |
| 10:03.15 | Kalamansi | sorry got dc |
| 10:03.29 | Kalamansi | how to check my bandwid? |
| 10:03.44 | developement | sorry all.. i can install email on my server? |
| 10:04.03 | Jymmm | valdyn: TY |
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| 10:04.47 | Kalamansi | ok i got it |
| 10:04.50 | Kalamansi | reboot |
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| 10:07.02 | Exy | If a program is multithreaded does it HAVE to spawn multiple processes? (which is how it's multithreaded) or can it utilise multiple processors simply with a single process? |
| 10:07.54 | wols | Exy: depends how threading is implemented. those "multiple processes" are not really multiple. they just show this way |
| 10:07.58 | valdyn | Exy: if it uses linux kernel threading then it will spawn 'multiple processes' |
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| 10:08.35 | valdyn | Exy: though its threads, not processes, that's the point. |
| 10:08.40 | Exy | hrm |
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| 10:09.01 | valdyn | Exy: programs are free to implement their own threading - then its invisible for the kernel |
| 10:09.13 | valdyn | ( ruby did or does that.. ) |
| 10:09.20 | Exy | hrm, what's the easiest way to see if an app is multithreaded? |
| 10:09.31 | assasukasse | hi everyone, my ssh-agent is "defunct" how do i restart it for the whole x session (stay up till i poweroff) |
| 10:09.42 | assasukasse | i don't want an ssh-agent only for the terminal |
| 10:10.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | Restart Xorg? |
| 10:10.23 | assasukasse | Dark_Apostrophe: only this choice? |
| 10:10.33 | Dark_Apostrophe | No idea, I hardly use SSH at all |
| 10:10.38 | valdyn | Exy: strace -e<system_call> <program> |
| 10:10.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | But that's the only way I know |
| 10:10.48 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm nowhere near an expert though. |
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| 10:12.14 | valdyn | Exy: there's no way to determine if a program implements its own threading from 'outside' |
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| 10:13.42 | valdyn | Exy: oh and if a program implements its own threading, then those threads cant be split accross processors |
| 10:14.03 | Exy | ... doesn't that defeat the idea of multithreading? |
| 10:14.27 | valdyn | Exy: multithreading is much older than the ubiquity of multi-cpu systems |
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| 10:15.58 | Exy | Well in short someones claiming Second Life is multithreaded but I'm pretty sure it's not as it doesn't seem to use my second core at all |
| 10:16.00 | DragonD | i can't get tls to work on proftpd.conf... here is my conf... http://dazoe.net/proftpd.conf anyone ass any errors? |
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| 10:17.07 | rocketmagnet | hi, does someone know how to find out which libstdc++ is installed on the system ? |
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| 10:17.42 | DragonD | Exy: that's cause the 2nd thread prolly does all the crap work. |
| 10:18.33 | Exy | hrm |
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| 10:22.29 | DragonD | ok. server config was fine... it was the client. now i'm getting "error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number" in tls.log |
| 10:23.05 | DragonD | nvm |
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| 10:26.12 | valdyn | Exy: well, using one thread for the UI wouldnt load your 2nd cpu significantly |
| 10:26.25 | valdyn | Exy: while the rendering thread would be the main load |
| 10:26.47 | valdyn | Exy: - that's that render while having a GUI usually do |
| 10:26.59 | valdyn | Exy: - that's that apps rendering while having a GUI usually do |
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| 10:30.15 | DragonD | when will debian-administration.org be back up and what happen to it anyway? |
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| 10:30.28 | Kalamansi | still waiting for the lancard |
| 10:30.40 | dondelelcaro | DragonD: you'll have to ask whoever maintains it, since it's not directly related to the project |
| 10:30.44 | Kalamansi | is it hard to setup share internet? |
| 10:30.51 | Kalamansi | i will use the debian as server |
| 10:30.53 | wols | Kalamansi: no |
| 10:31.06 | Kalamansi | then 9pcs for xppro |
| 10:31.10 | Kalamansi | and 1 ubuntu |
| 10:31.10 | wols | aptitude install ipmasq an dit's "shared" |
| 10:31.16 | wols | you need to configure your lan tho |
| 10:31.27 | Kalamansi | im really tired of reinstall xp |
| 10:31.37 | Kalamansi | because of some viruses and shit |
| 10:31.40 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 10:31.41 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 10:32.03 | Kalamansi | wow |
| 10:32.08 | Kalamansi | heres my lancard |
| 10:32.14 | Kalamansi | i will reboot |
| 10:32.24 | Kalamansi | hold on guys first time to use debian |
| 10:32.30 | Kalamansi | im not sure what version is this |
| 10:32.40 | Kalamansi | i buy it in the mall |
| 10:32.49 | Kalamansi | 5 dollars |
| 10:33.00 | valdyn | Kalamansi: very interesting, but is there a problem with that lancard? |
| 10:33.02 | Kalamansi | 1 dollar is - 47 pesos here |
| 10:33.24 | Kalamansi | valdyn:nope.it is brand new sir |
| 10:33.40 | Kalamansi | i will put it in the cpu now |
| 10:33.50 | valdyn | !cpu |
| 10:33.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, cpu is (Central Processing Unit) Think of this as the brains of the computer. When most people think of processors, they think of Intel. The Pentium and Pentium Pro are CPUs. |
| 10:34.03 | Kalamansi | sorry still noob |
| 10:34.12 | Kalamansi | reboot install lancard |
| 10:34.16 | Kalamansi | oh wait |
| 10:34.28 | Kalamansi | there reboot |
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| 10:35.11 | wols | valdyn: it will be a loong sunday :) |
| 10:35.25 | wols | on the upside: we will be called "sir" :) |
| 10:36.12 | valdyn | yay! |
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| 10:40.44 | cqnqrd | Hi .... can somebody help me in private for install an aureal AU8820B please ? :( |
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| 10:48.25 | pocukrani | ssl support is`t good idea for home web page? |
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| 10:51.59 | yangvnc | How many times does a lenny mirror update? daily or hourly or when? |
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| 10:54.44 | SoulChild | Hi all,... i have an intel celeron M prosessor but kernel 2.6.18-i686 has a bug can i use i386 instead without loosing any performance ? |
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| 10:55.13 | SoulChild | And will i have any disatvantages ? |
| 10:55.49 | Eulex | define 'has a bug' |
| 10:56.04 | Eulex | and yes, the i386 kernel will be a little slower than the i686 kernel. |
| 10:56.12 | wols | you will lose some perfomance, but then ther is no -i386 kernel |
| 10:56.26 | Eulex | ah, right, i486 kernel nowadays? |
| 10:56.30 | wols | yes |
| 10:56.53 | Eulex | SoulChild, and why do you think that the i486 kernel won't have that same bug as the i686 kernel has? |
| 10:57.04 | SoulChild | Eulex ,... it's a bug with the AC adapter (notebook slow when pluged in) ,... it is already official but not fixed in 2.6.18 yet |
| 10:57.15 | SoulChild | Eulex: cause i tried ,... |
| 10:58.05 | wols | SoulChild: use another kernel version |
| 10:58.17 | SoulChild | wols: where to get ? |
| 10:58.25 | wols | backports |
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| 10:59.44 | SoulChild | wols: hmm ,... okay, ... can i download from packages.debian.org (unstable) and install then ? |
| 11:00.00 | wols | no |
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| 11:00.18 | SoulChild | i don't know then :( |
| 11:00.30 | wols | !tell SoulChild about backports |
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| 11:00.39 | SoulChild | wols i already asked dpkg |
| 11:00.53 | wols | then read it again |
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| 11:01.10 | SoulChild | okay boss ;) |
| 11:01.29 | wols | how hard is it to understand that factoid and where to look? |
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| 11:06.14 | SoulChild | hmmm i think it is too complicated for me to understand that ,... since my english is not the best ,... i simply need the newest kernel backported for etch or testing... |
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| 11:07.46 | valdyn | SoulChild: http://www.backports.org/ |
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| 11:09.53 | zulfikar | hallo |
| 11:10.00 | zulfikar | is er iemand nederlands?? |
| 11:10.26 | zulfikar | who got VNC for psp ?? |
| 11:10.27 | Penix | !dutch |
| 11:10.28 | dpkg | hmm... dutch is soome straangje laanguaage daat sussudio kjeeps spjeeaaking, or #debian.nl |
| 11:10.56 | Penix | zulfikar: probably some sort of psp homebrew site, far, far away from here |
| 11:11.23 | zulfikar | fuck you all |
| 11:11.36 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 11:11.42 | Penix | heh |
| 11:11.42 | Jebediah | el oh el |
| 11:11.49 | HostilePenguin | when my machine does the file check this disk has been mounted 30 times bla bla when disk check is over and the machine boots there is high memory usage then reboot fixes it? |
| 11:11.56 | simonrvn | what a maroon |
| 11:12.27 | simonrvn | !free mem |
| 11:12.37 | simonrvn | !free memory |
| 11:12.37 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux caches files from disk in RAM for performance gains, and will release the RAM if programs need it. |
| 11:12.48 | simonrvn | HostilePenguin: ^^^ |
| 11:13.06 | HostilePenguin | alright |
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| 11:13.47 | SoulChild | is it true that i shouldn't use backports for my testing machine ??? |
| 11:14.38 | simonrvn | no you shouldn't |
| 11:14.52 | simonrvn | backports is for stable only |
| 11:15.13 | SoulChild | simonrvn: so how do i get a precompiled 2.6.21 for lenny ,.. can i simply use the unstable one ? |
| 11:15.25 | simonrvn | sec |
| 11:15.29 | SoulChild | sec? |
| 11:15.32 | simonrvn | !info libc6 lenny |
| 11:15.36 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.5-9+b1 (lenny), Packaged size: 4446 kB, Installed size: 10640 kB |
| 11:15.38 | simonrvn | !info libc6 sid |
| 11:15.41 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.5-11 (sid), Packaged size: 4314 kB, Installed size: 10404 kB |
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| 11:15.50 | simonrvn | yeh it's ok |
| 11:15.56 | valdyn | simonrvn: its 2.6 in sid |
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| 11:15.59 | valdyn | simonrvn: any minute |
| 11:16.10 | SoulChild | simonrvn: sorry i didn't understand |
| 11:16.10 | valdyn | simonrvn: or already now for i386 |
| 11:16.22 | Penix | simonrvn: you forget who you're talking to ;) |
| 11:16.25 | Penix | bah |
| 11:16.26 | simonrvn | SoulChild: yeh, go ahead and use the kenel in sid |
| 11:16.29 | Penix | valdyn rather |
| 11:16.32 | simonrvn | kernel* |
| 11:16.37 | SoulChild | simonrvn: okay thanks |
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| 11:18.20 | simonrvn | now if i can manage to edit some files via tramp ;) |
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| 11:20.28 | wols | simonrvn: is tramp emacs only? |
| 11:20.35 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 11:20.50 | simonrvn | afaik anyway |
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| 11:24.56 | Penix | cheap, large capacity ide disks make me nervous... |
| 11:24.57 | crescent_ | hi I just have my fresh debian etch on my old box but I have gnome as the desktop, I have run aptitude purge gnome gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment but I am with the gnome desktop view |
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| 11:25.17 | crescent_ | I have installed xfce4 |
| 11:25.29 | crescent_ | and xfce4-goodies |
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| 11:26.20 | Penix | crescent_: told gdm/xdm/foodm which session you want? |
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| 11:27.02 | crescent_ | Penix, no |
| 11:27.57 | crescent_ | Penix,how can do that on the root account |
| 11:29.16 | wols | crescent_: has nothing to do with root account ot not |
| 11:29.16 | wols | and you are not supposed to use root X sessions |
| 11:29.27 | wols | crescent_: there is a button or whatever in your displaymanager login screen. which DM do you use? |
| 11:29.44 | crescent_ | wols: yes etc/inid.d/gdm/... ? |
| 11:30.15 | crescent_ | wols display manager? |
| 11:30.23 | wols | gdm = gnome display manager |
| 11:30.32 | wols | crescent_: is your DM running or not? |
| 11:30.51 | crescent_ | wols: yes I am on an X session now |
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| 11:31.14 | aleph0 | hello everyone |
| 11:31.23 | wols | crescent_: that is not what I asked |
| 11:31.32 | DevilChaos | hi im having trouble formatting my 300 gig external hd in ext3 using qtparted and apparently it is only formatting about 14 gigs set as a primary partition would extended change this or am i doing something else wrong? |
| 11:31.39 | aleph0 | how can I force 'aptitude dist-upgrade' NOT to remove the package zope2.7 ? |
| 11:31.46 | crescent_ | wols: hmm ok sorry I did not get |
| 11:32.10 | aleph0 | I want to sort out the dependencies by hand but I do NOT want it removed. "apt-get dist-upgrade --no-remove" does not work |
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| 11:32.24 | aleph0 | what is the correct way to tell apt to ignore this package completely |
| 11:32.26 | aleph0 | ? |
| 11:32.41 | cahoot | put it on hold? |
| 11:33.22 | crescent_ | wols: I lack some basic information on DM I guess |
| 11:34.34 | aleph0 | but I get unmet dependency errors |
| 11:35.11 | aleph0 | what would you have me type? |
| 11:35.18 | wols | aleph0: you fix your dependencies, THEN you use dist-upgrade |
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| 11:35.59 | aleph0 | right. I just want apt to completely ignore anything to do with the package zope2.7 and its files. |
| 11:36.03 | xerophyte | i am missing fonts like arial and stuff in the firefox and others application, which package contains all the common fonts |
| 11:36.39 | wols | xerophyte: arial is an MS only font. and a bad one at that :) |
| 11:36.43 | wols | !info msttcorefonts |
| 11:36.45 | dpkg | msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section contrib/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2 (sid), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 11:38.29 | aleph0 | wols: what do you mean? zope2.7 requires python2.3 which dies not seem to be installable in etch. I'm trying to upgrade to etch and I can but a working python2.3 binary where zope2.7 can find it and everything should continue to work. so how do I tell apt-get to leave zope2.7 where it is? |
| 11:39.01 | xerophyte | wols, what package has most common fonts ? |
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| 11:39.51 | wols | aleph0: you compile python2.3 for etch |
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| 11:40.33 | aleph0 | and apt-get will notice software I installed from sources? |
| 11:41.03 | Penix | aleph0: if you do it properly |
| 11:41.30 | aleph0 | well that's reassuring |
| 11:41.35 | aleph0 | ;) |
| 11:41.49 | Penix | aleph0: /msg dpkg nm guide |
| 11:43.46 | wols | aleph0: I'd start with getting the python2.3 sarge sources and trying to package them |
| 11:43.51 | Penix | aleph0: although, I guess in the case of python, you could just use the existing work probably already done by some wonderful backporter |
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| 11:44.07 | wols | Penix: he doesn't exactly need a backport :) |
| 11:44.12 | wols | more of a forwardport |
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| 11:45.12 | aleph0 | a forwardport sound about right :) ... where would I go about finding one? |
| 11:45.16 | Penix | ah. 2.3. I see |
| 11:45.45 | wols | aleph0: what happens if you try to install python2.3 in etch bet? |
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| 11:47.26 | aleph0 | python2.3 is not isntallable - unmet deps : python2.3-xml is virtual |
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| 11:47.56 | Eulex | 2.3 isn't supported on etch, afaik |
| 11:48.14 | wols | info python2.3-xml sarge |
| 11:48.17 | wols | !info python2.3-xml sarge |
| 11:48.21 | dpkg | python2.3-xml: (XML tools for Python (2.3.x)), section python, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 683 kB, Installed size: 3404 kB |
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| 11:48.35 | wols | doesn't look virtual to me at 3404kB |
| 11:48.41 | aleph0 | in etch? |
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| 11:48.49 | wols | in sarge |
| 11:48.55 | Eulex | !info python2.3-xml etch |
| 11:48.56 | wols | !info python2.3-xml etch |
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| 11:49.09 | aleph0 | yeah. but I'm upgrading to etch |
| 11:49.12 | wols | Eulex: tho I'd doubt there is any python2.3 etch package |
| 11:49.17 | wols | aleph0: and? |
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| 11:49.24 | aleph0 | there it is virtual |
| 11:49.29 | Eulex | wols, right, there isn't |
| 11:49.43 | wols | aleph0: no, it does not exist. but simply install it from sarge |
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| 11:50.06 | aleph0 | ok. I'll try that. |
| 11:50.33 | sussudio | %bear Penix |
| 11:51.09 | MangosDebian | %listauth sussudio |
| 11:51.10 | badgers | factoid author list by 'sussudio' (15 of 315): CMD: britsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: das (.*?) ;; CMD: pants (.*?) ;; annoy piggy ;; britsnack ;; casema ;; cooties ;; flw21 ;; forging headers ;; make penix cry ;; off topic ;; rap_song_knight_rider ;; rj ;; roxsmack ;; sparr. |
| 11:51.22 | MangosDebian | sussudio: wow, been busy |
| 11:51.29 | Eulex | !penixstrike Penix |
| 11:51.29 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Penix to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 11:51.41 | MangosDebian | morning' |
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| 11:52.32 | Scurz | hi |
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| 11:53.33 | anapivirtua_ | Hi / Ola / Salut |
| 11:53.40 | foutrelis | Now mysql complaints that "Can't create/write to file '/tmp/#sql_6783_0.MYI' (Errcode: 13)". HEELP :( |
| 11:53.50 | xingu | someone remind me why I thought i'd be a good idea to catch up sid after three weeks from a frickin net cafe? |
| 11:53.55 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.58 | Eulex | foutrelis, I'd just restart it. |
| 11:54.04 | MangosDebian | !tell foutrelis about root |
| 11:54.05 | foutrelis | Did it. Nothing :( |
| 11:54.14 | wols | foutrelis: reboot then |
| 11:54.21 | Eulex | foutrelis, stop and start? |
| 11:54.22 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.22 | foutrelis | Again nothing :( |
| 11:54.43 | wols | foutrelis: what is the exact error for both, stop and start |
| 11:54.44 | foutrelis | I restarted the server but nothing changed. |
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| 11:55.17 | foutrelis | wols: No errors. When I try to use it the errors popup. For example mysqldump gives "Can't create/write to file '/tmp/#sql_6783_0.MYI' (Errcode: 13)" |
| 11:55.21 | MangosDebian | considering /tmp is tmpfs nowadays too |
| 11:55.31 | wols | foutrelis: ls -al /tmp |
| 11:55.55 | wols | foutrelis: and check your mysql logs |
| 11:56.18 | foutrelis | http://pastebin.ca/608574 |
| 11:56.20 | MangosDebian | foutrelis: is tmp 1777 still? |
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| 11:56.45 | wols | foutrelis: you fucked up your perms |
| 11:56.49 | wols | MangosDebian: no it's not |
| 11:57.02 | foutrelis | its drwxr-xr-x |
| 11:57.08 | foutrelis | 1755 |
| 11:57.10 | MangosDebian | did you unmount it? |
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| 11:57.19 | foutrelis | Hmmm no |
| 11:57.26 | MangosDebian | not really sure what the perms are before its mounted, might be it |
| 11:57.37 | foutrelis | hmm |
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| 11:57.44 | MangosDebian | mount, tmpfs on /tmp |
| 11:57.57 | Eulex | my /tmp is drwxrwxrwt |
| 11:58.02 | wols | filipe__: drwxrwxrwt 4 root root 176 2007-07-08 13:56 . |
| 11:58.22 | foutrelis | ok I 'll try chmoding it to 1777 :) |
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| 12:01.12 | foutrelis | YAY it works :) |
| 12:01.23 | foutrelis | thanks |
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| 12:01.28 | foutrelis | ^.^ |
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| 12:02.05 | utab | wols: hi I read about some configuration |
| 12:02.25 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:02.38 | wols | ah, crescent |
| 12:02.52 | utab | wols: wols, of course changed nick sorry |
| 12:02.55 | knifeprty | sup everyone |
| 12:03.08 | wols | knifeprty: the same ceiling like yesterday |
| 12:03.20 | Absolute0 | if i started a mv command on a large dir, can i just kill it and then move everything back or i need to wait for it to finish? |
| 12:03.27 | knifeprty | wols: are you a gal? |
| 12:03.47 | wols | just cause I want a pony, doesn't make me female, does it? |
| 12:04.01 | utab | wols: I have to set up gdm to start xfce desktop somehow |
| 12:04.04 | knifeprty | haha, of course not |
| 12:04.08 | shafire | has someone a cool PS1 for my bash?? |
| 12:04.08 | wols | utab: no |
| 12:04.16 | utab | wols: :S |
| 12:04.17 | wols | utab: but you can always install gdm if you wish |
| 12:04.34 | knifeprty | wols so you have a debian system? |
| 12:04.36 | Absolute0 | whats ps1? |
| 12:04.39 | utab | wols: ok I am going to use XDM then? |
| 12:04.40 | Absolute0 | playstation?? |
| 12:04.49 | shafire | no |
| 12:04.49 | wols | knifeprty: is this going anywhere useful? |
| 12:04.57 | utab | wols: is that right? |
| 12:05.00 | Penix | Absolute0: yes, shafire wants a playstation for his bash |
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| 12:05.03 | wols | Absolute0: your bash prompt |
| 12:05.10 | Noborusan | Hey wols :) |
| 12:05.19 | Noborusan | wow still online |
| 12:05.25 | knifeprty | wols: im a windoze try to get some gnu ontop of this shit |
| 12:05.31 | wols | utab: usually xdm is the DM for xfce yes. I dunno if it can change WMs on the login screen tho |
| 12:05.42 | Noborusan | wols, My debian server is working perfectly in the datacenter :D |
| 12:05.45 | Absolute0 | so can i kill a running mv process and mv the contents back? |
| 12:05.54 | wols | Absolute0: yes |
| 12:06.17 | Absolute0 | the files wont be corrupted? |
| 12:06.37 | wols | I wouldn't use kill -9 |
| 12:06.49 | Absolute0 | i meant Ctrl+c |
| 12:07.09 | utab | wols, ok then I am missing something, I uninstalled the gnome-desktop but my desktop has still the gnome foot print |
| 12:07.30 | wols | utab: how exactly did you unisntall gnome-desktop? |
| 12:07.55 | wols | !tell utab about remove gnome |
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| 12:08.25 | wathek | hello all any one has a wifi card based on RTL8185 chipset ? |
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| 12:08.37 | wols | !anyone use RTL8185 |
| 12:08.37 | dpkg | No, no one uses RTL8185, not even the people who use it. |
| 12:08.48 | wols | wathek: ask a real question |
| 12:08.53 | Absolute0 | !RTL8185 |
| 12:09.08 | utab | wols: thx, I used aptitude purge gnome gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment but will check your post |
| 12:09.46 | wathek | wols: alright so I've tried 2 things the first one is installing the driver with ndiswrapper and it worked and it detects the network but I can't ping any computer on the same network |
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| 12:10.06 | vyrus001 | i can not run 32 bit elf's how can i fix this ? |
| 12:10.08 | utab | wols: is not that roght? |
| 12:10.21 | wathek | wols: and there is no firewall |
| 12:10.26 | wathek | wols: it's an Ad-hoc network |
| 12:10.37 | wols | wathek: don't talk to me, talk to the channel |
| 12:10.44 | wathek | ok sorry |
| 12:10.45 | wols | vyrus001: install ia32libs I guess |
| 12:10.51 | vlt_home | Hello. Which package contains "dpkg-buildpackage"? An install script seems to depend on this. |
| 12:11.03 | wols | !tell vlt_home about search |
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| 12:11.45 | vyrus001 | wols, ic |
| 12:12.10 | Scurz | Have you ideas http://paste.debian.net/32284 please ? |
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| 12:12.46 | knifeprty | fuck off wols |
| 12:12.56 | knifeprty | you aint even of help |
| 12:13.08 | wols | knifeprty: please stop that |
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| 12:14.05 | knifeprty | chanserv kill this homo |
| 12:14.12 | knifeprty | loool |
| 12:14.18 | wols | !ops please remove the knifeprty troll |
| 12:14.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wols complains about: please remove the knifeprty troll |
| 12:14.53 | vlt_home | wols: Thank you. There are three packages listed when I search for dpkg-buildpackage. Where can I see which contains a binary of that name? |
| 12:15.07 | knifeprty | !ops HI! i'm wols faggot crying for help come hurry and save me cum it all over my throat |
| 12:15.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: knifeprty complains about: HI! i'm wols faggot crying for help come hurry and save me cum it all over my throat |
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| 12:15.22 | wols | vlt_home: check their filelist. I guess you looking at pdo? |
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| 12:16.58 | vlt_home | wols: I tried checking their filelist running `dpkg -L <pkg name>` but that's not possible because they aren't intalled yet. What is "pdo"? |
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| 12:17.08 | Noborusan | i type df -h, i do not see a swap partition ? |
| 12:17.18 | strushb | Does anyone got a hint for setting up ipsec on a router? (btw deb-adm seems to be down) |
| 12:17.22 | wols | vlt_home: packages.debian.org. an url |
| 12:17.31 | wols | Noborusan: right |
| 12:18.33 | Noborusan | there are double of tmpfs |
| 12:18.35 | Noborusan | hmmm |
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| 12:19.11 | wols | strushb: tried http://www.google.de/search?q=debian+ipsec+howto&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a ? |
| 12:19.15 | strushb | multiple mounted tmpfs (on various locations) are fine |
| 12:20.02 | vlt_home | wols: Ok, you want to tell me there is no function to find the pkg of a required program; I need to search every possible pkg on a web site, right? |
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| 12:20.16 | wols | vlt_home: no |
| 12:20.40 | wols | you can get your needed program one single query |
| 12:21.10 | wols | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bin%2Fdpkg-buildpackage&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 12:21.20 | strushb | wols: ty, searched up to now only for ubuntu... |
| 12:21.25 | wols | vlt_home: from this it should be obvious what to get |
| 12:22.05 | vlt_home | wols: Aah, I got it. Thank you. |
| 12:22.18 | wols | !pdo |
| 12:22.19 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 12:22.45 | vlt_home | ;) |
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| 12:27.56 | SoulChild | anyone installed compiz-fusion ? |
| 12:28.18 | mindmedic | SoulChild: last week yes |
| 12:28.31 | SoulChild | mindmedic: are u using sid ? |
| 12:28.59 | SoulChild | mindmedic: i don't get it installed cause i have an old version of libdbus-glib-1-2 |
| 12:29.00 | mindmedic | yeah, but cf ran on feisty ... i switched yesterday |
| 12:29.27 | SoulChild | hmmm does compiz fusion also run on testing ,... |
| 12:30.28 | mindmedic | i don't know, but i wouldn't waste too much time installing it ... the few new effects aren't worth it |
| 12:31.05 | SoulChild | mindmedic: hmm i ll try anyway ,... since i am too bored on sundays :D |
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| 12:31.35 | mindmedic | oh alright, have fun then .. |
| 12:31.59 | SoulChild | thanks |
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| 12:36.43 | iron | Hi all. Yesterday I built a new kernel with 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_image'. Today I need a few extra modules. Is there a canonical "debian way" to just build these extra modules without having to 'make-kpkg clean' and start from scratch? |
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| 12:38.31 | cahoot | iron, (off the reord) Id just make and install the modules |
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| 12:39.46 | cahoot | iron, unless they can be built using module assistant |
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| 12:40.25 | Mitja | valdyn: hi, you there? |
| 12:40.50 | iron | tee hee cahoot - only trying to find the right way... what's this module assistant? |
| 12:41.26 | cahoot | iron, OTOH if I'm not mistaken there is a module target for make-kpkg |
| 12:41.53 | mindmedic | look at the docs .. i think the package is named module-assistant .. it automates the process of building kernel modules |
| 12:42.06 | iron | cahoot, but only for out-of-tree modules... |
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| 12:44.02 | iron | cahoot - ok, module-assistant reading commences. thanks! |
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| 12:48.22 | mendred_ | hi does anyone know where openoffice stores the results of accepting the license agreement? |
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| 12:54.47 | tosh| | anyone know how I can make my cisco aironet 350 pcmcia wlan card show up in linux as a different eth device? |
| 12:55.21 | rossMoHaX | I'd like to install debian via tftp boot (i've no dvdrom right now), where I could get kernel and initrd ready to network boot and start installation process? |
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| 12:55.30 | RichiH | i need a tool that looks at a set of directory and tells me what files are different between those directories |
| 12:55.39 | RichiH | i.e. i have 5 directories and need to sync them |
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| 12:55.54 | RichiH | or get the info i need to sync them |
| 12:56.07 | Arafangion | RichiH: diff |
| 12:56.16 | RichiH | Arafangion: binary files |
| 12:56.20 | rossMoHaX | RichiH, rsync? |
| 12:56.29 | RichiH | and yes, i know about for i in foo; do; echo $i; md5sum; done |
| 12:56.30 | Arafangion | RichiH: To see if they are different, then just use diff. |
| 12:56.44 | Penix | rossMoHaX: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en |
| 12:56.47 | Arafangion | RichiH: rsync will sync one way, unison will sync both ways, but less automatically. |
| 12:56.50 | RichiH | some files might exist in the other dirs, as well |
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| 12:57.01 | Penix | rossMoHaX: has a link to image downloads etc. |
| 12:57.02 | RichiH | Arafangion: i would prefer a list so i can sync by hand |
| 12:57.11 | Arafangion | RichiH: How many times do I have to suggest diff? |
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| 12:57.36 | Arafangion | RichiH: Binary files, directories, samba shares, whatever, it doesn't matter, JUST USE DIFF! |
| 12:57.42 | SoulChild | heeelllp |
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| 12:58.30 | Arafangion | SoulChild: Heeelllp :) |
| 12:58.32 | SoulChild | My compiz fusion don't show any window decorations (intel GraphicCard |
| 12:59.07 | rossMoHaX | Penix, oh, thx |
| 12:59.08 | Penix | SoulChild: #compiz-fusion |
| 12:59.12 | helmut | Hi. Is there someone with root access on a sid (amd64?) machine who would help me reproduce an aptitude bug? |
| 13:00.22 | helmut | (just some simple sequence of actions to find out whether it segfaults) |
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| 13:04.58 | rissy | is there any way to get back rm'ed files? |
| 13:05.12 | helmut | rissy: depends on your filesystem |
| 13:05.19 | rxKaffee | is there an IRC channel specific to debian php developers or php package maintainers? |
| 13:05.42 | rissy | helmut, ext3 |
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| 13:05.56 | rissy | i accidently rm'ed my apache2.conf file, lol |
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| 13:06.22 | rxKaffee | rissy: mc |
| 13:06.27 | rissy | :D |
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| 13:08.06 | helmut | rissy: first of all try to minimize filesystem activity (i.e. writing) |
| 13:08.21 | rissy | yeah |
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| 13:08.59 | helmut | rissy: I think you could grep your block device for known parts. |
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| 13:09.09 | helmut | rissy: if your config is not too big, it might be one chunk. |
| 13:09.23 | fantomas | Hi. Is it possible to configure PPTPD so that whenever a new connection is established no new ppp(n+1) interface created - instead, a new IP address is added to existing pppN? |
| 13:09.24 | rissy | :) |
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| 13:09.50 | helmut | rissy: you could for instance use grep -C n something_you_know |
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| 13:10.14 | rissy | cool as |
| 13:10.17 | helmut | rissy: be sure that if you write the output to a file to use a different filesystem |
| 13:10.17 | sebastian | Can someone tell me why I have to reinstall nVidia driver every fucking time I reboot my computer!? |
| 13:10.51 | sebastian | It works even if I reboot X |
| 13:10.51 | sebastian | but when i reboot the computer it fails |
| 13:10.51 | abrotman | nvidia sucks |
| 13:11.15 | helmut | sebastian: how do you install the drivers? |
| 13:11.24 | rissy | helmut, thanks for the help, think i have it :D |
| 13:11.25 | abrotman | that's the technical description :) |
| 13:11.27 | sebastian | helmut, I shut down X. And install them |
| 13:11.33 | helmut | sebastian: HOW? |
| 13:11.35 | sebastian | you know "sh NVIDIA-balkajfndgjdfg" |
| 13:11.43 | helmut | sebastian: try m-a a-i nvidia |
| 13:11.43 | abrotman | !Nvidia one-liner |
| 13:11.43 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 13:12.00 | abrotman | or /msg dpkg nvidia_post_etch if you're on lenny/sid |
| 13:12.29 | sebastian | helmut, whats that then? |
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| 13:12.33 | abrotman | sebastian: this is why the other night we were telling to not use the nvidia.com crap |
| 13:12.52 | abrotman | apparently you decided to ignore us |
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| 13:13.15 | sebastian | But If I use nvidia-glx Compiz doesn't work properly :/ |
| 13:13.17 | thechef | sebastian, you have to remove everything of the packaged driver if you want to use the installer |
| 13:13.28 | sebastian | and glxgears doesn't work under nvidia-glx |
| 13:13.33 | helmut | sebastian: read man m-a if you want to know or better use the one-liner. |
| 13:14.39 | helmut | sid/amd64 users there? (reproducing an aptitude bug, probably 64bit related) |
| 13:14.47 | sebastian | thechef, What do you mean? apt-get remove nvidia-glx |
| 13:14.52 | thechef | purge all nvidia-glx related packages and remove everything in /etc that has to do with the packaged driver (initscripts afaik), if you want to use the installer |
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| 13:15.21 | SoulChild | what line has to be added in xorg.conf to use window decorations ? |
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| 13:16.11 | appelza | Hi guys, I've upgraded my amarok to testing, and libmad0 to testing but amarok can't find it's mp3 plugin, any ideas? |
| 13:16.21 | thechef | SoulChild: Eventually Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" in Section "Screen"(?) |
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| 13:17.21 | SoulChild | thechef: yes i think it was that ,.. thanks |
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| 13:18.24 | TMH_ | hi. I screwed up and deleted /sbin/reboot. I have found /sbin/reboot in apt-file, but i need a way to reinstall sysvinit without uninstalling it first |
| 13:18.41 | Eulex | apt-get install --reinstall |
| 13:18.47 | TMH_ | also a second question: why does anyone let me near a computer? |
| 13:19.28 | TMH_ | ah that worked perfectly. Thank you. |
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| 13:22.27 | appelza | what package provides amarok with mp3 support? |
| 13:24.34 | abrotman | amarok can play mp3s already |
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| 13:25.21 | dakoo | whats going on here then |
| 13:25.38 | abrotman | golly .. i think we'd need more details |
| 13:25.58 | dakoo | i can mount dvd's but can't mount cdroms, anyone know why this could be? |
| 13:26.12 | abrotman | is there an error ? |
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| 13:26.24 | dakoo | mount: No medium found |
| 13:26.38 | dakoo | thats the only thig from the mount command |
| 13:26.40 | Noborusan | Has anyone ever used plesk for debian etch ? |
| 13:26.48 | abrotman | is it already mounted |
| 13:26.53 | abrotman | Noborusan: it's not in debian |
| 13:27.21 | dakoo | abrotman: no, /proc/mounts does not show |
| 13:27.26 | rxKaffee | anyone happen to know what a "preferences" "Pin:" line might look like for using ubuntu dapper source in etch? I'm currently using "Pin: release a=testing" to pull from debian lenny repo |
| 13:27.49 | rxKaffee | Noborusan: might check the vpslink.com debian forums, some of their clients occasionally use plesk I believe |
| 13:27.54 | abrotman | rxKaffee: you're mixing distros ? |
| 13:28.32 | abrotman | !pinning |
| 13:28.33 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
| 13:28.37 | Noborusan | rxKaffee, okay,thanks |
| 13:28.39 | rxKaffee | abrotman: I've already verified dependencies and file locations |
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| 13:28.56 | Noborusan | abrotman, I know,plesk is not free,it wont be included in debian |
| 13:28.56 | rxKaffee | no point in porting, it just needs to be inserted |
| 13:29.23 | abrotman | Noborusan: so you should get support for it from them .. not us |
| 13:29.25 | wols | rxKaffee: we certainly don't support mixing distros |
| 13:29.30 | rxKaffee | of course ya don't |
| 13:29.37 | Noborusan | by the way,accessing to my server via ssh is as fast as when i was testing it in vmware locally, I love it :D |
| 13:29.40 | psyco-obiwan | Noborusan: etch is not supported by ples yet... it is still on sarge |
| 13:30.04 | psyco-obiwan | consider one of the bluequartz bundles, plesk sucks! |
| 13:30.15 | Noborusan | psyco-obiwan, oh,bad news ;( |
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| 13:30.36 | tchmnkyz | hey all can someone provide me with some docs on setting up authenticating against a PDC with gdm |
| 13:30.42 | Noborusan | psyco-obiwan, may i PM you for a bit please ? |
| 13:30.45 | rxKaffee | I'm suspecting I'd just change "release a=testing" to "release a=dapper" |
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| 13:31.40 | rxKaffee | or would it not figureout origin on its own? |
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| 13:39.35 | psyco-obiwan | Noborusan: sure, just do |
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| 13:45.29 | Ranpha1 | Does debian also have sane backend packages? i need the plustek for a umax 3400 usb scanner |
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| 13:47.06 | abrotman | !find sane etch |
| 13:47.09 | tarzeau | Ranpha1: libsane-extras - API library for scanners -- extra backends |
| 13:47.10 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'sane' (15): gimp2.0-quiteinsane ;; libsane ;; libsane-dbg ;; libsane-dev ;; libsane-extras ;; libsane-extras-dbg ;; libsane-extras-dev ;; libwine-sane ;; pike7.6-sane ;; python-imaging-sane ;; quiteinsane ;; sane ;; sane-utils ;; xsane ;; xsane-common. |
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| 13:51.11 | Ranpha1 | mmmm just installed libsane-extra but xsane doesn't work. sane-find-scanner finds my scanner with no problems and my scanner is supported by the webpage |
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| 13:52.30 | shal | Hi lads |
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| 13:52.41 | shal | im installing debian and its asking me what i want to set my partition to |
| 13:52.46 | dnanar | hi all ! |
| 13:52.46 | shal | i recognise FAT32 and NTFS |
| 13:52.51 | shal | but i dont understand the rest |
| 13:52.55 | shal | swap, journal etc |
| 13:52.58 | shal | what should i set it too? |
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| 13:53.51 | Oush | anyone? |
| 13:53.53 | Oush | please help! |
| 13:53.54 | stoned | oh boy |
| 13:54.03 | stoned | what did i eat yesterday |
| 13:54.05 | zamuro | !anyone |
| 13:54.05 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 13:54.21 | dnanar | i'm looking for how to modify the debian's welcome message when a user is logged (The "The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux.... ....are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright"). may anyone help me please ? =) |
| 13:54.21 | Oush | i have asked my question |
| 13:54.24 | zamuro | stoned: maybe some chili? LOL |
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| 13:54.27 | Oush | what should i set my parition type too? |
| 13:54.33 | Oush | thers a lsit i dont know which one to choose.... |
| 13:54.35 | stoned | dunno i can't remember |
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| 13:54.39 | stoned | but my tummy hurts like hell |
| 13:54.47 | abrotman | !tell Oush about ig |
| 13:55.01 | stoned | Oush: so what exactly again |
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| 13:55.19 | stoned | Oush: 82 for linux ext etc. or 83 for swap i think |
| 13:55.29 | stoned | i could be backwards on these though |
| 13:55.44 | rossMoHaX | I'm trying to install debian via netboot. I pointed it to my local ftp which serves debian DVD. There is no Release.gpg file on it, where I could get it? |
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| 13:56.08 | Eulex | Oush, if you don't know, I'd suggest ext3 for your filesystem. then how much ram do you have? that will affect how big of a swap partition you want/need. |
| 13:56.17 | Oush | 512MB |
| 13:56.19 | Oush | ddr2 |
| 13:56.34 | Oush | ext3 journaling filesystem? |
| 13:56.38 | Oush | should i go with that? |
| 13:56.55 | stoned | yes |
| 13:57.00 | valdyn | Oush: is that a laptop where you might want to suspend to disk? |
| 13:57.12 | Oush | no its a desktop pc |
| 13:57.42 | Oush | thanks lads |
| 13:57.45 | valdyn | Oush: 512 mb swap or more |
| 13:58.00 | Oush | oh crap i chose ext3 and went ahead with it |
| 13:58.02 | stoned | 1gb ram here and i hardly ever use swap |
| 13:58.21 | RichiH | where does debian's tomcat have its document root? |
| 13:58.24 | valdyn | Oush: what does swap have to do with ext3? |
| 13:58.29 | Oush | i dont know lol |
| 13:58.36 | Eulex | Oush, you need both. 0.5gb or more swap, then the rest of the space you want to use for your debian install for / as ext3. |
| 13:58.40 | abrotman | RichiH: last i knew .. /var/lib/tomcat |
| 13:58.44 | valdyn | Oush: swap is for paging ram content out to disk |
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| 13:58.53 | valdyn | Oush: ext3 fs is used to store files |
| 13:58.56 | dnanar | Oush: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html watch 2.6.5 section. It doesn't matter if it's for freebsd or linux |
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| 13:59.03 | Oush | No Root File system please correct this from the partitioning menu :S |
| 13:59.08 | Oush | how do i do that? |
| 13:59.24 | Eulex | Oush, right, _you need both_. |
| 13:59.25 | valdyn | Oush: why didnt you let the installer do it all automagically? |
| 13:59.28 | abrotman | !tell Oush about ig |
| 14:00.07 | Oush | oh.. you can do it automatically? |
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| 14:00.18 | valdyn | Oush: you were _asked_ if you wanted that |
| 14:00.26 | valdyn | Oush: by the installer |
| 14:00.33 | Oush | ahh yeh but iv got 2 partitions |
| 14:00.34 | RichiH | abrotman: ta |
| 14:00.42 | abrotman | RichiH: find it okay? |
| 14:00.47 | Oush | i thought it might format both rather then one |
| 14:00.53 | RichiH | abrotman: i think yes |
| 14:00.59 | RichiH | there is a webapps directory |
| 14:01.07 | RichiH | i.e. /var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps |
| 14:01.26 | abrotman | something like that .. yes |
| 14:01.27 | Eulex | Oush, it will present to you what it setup it chooses to use. |
| 14:01.33 | abrotman | but there are other/better ways to configure tomcat IIRC |
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| 14:02.36 | dnanar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.53 | RichiH | abrotman: yah, found it |
| 14:03.22 | RvGaTe | my left screen just went dead |
| 14:03.24 | RvGaTe | :S |
| 14:03.34 | cahoot | dnanar, man issue? |
| 14:04.20 | cahoot | dnanar, and motd.tail by the looks of it |
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| 14:04.46 | RvGaTe | Something is wrong with my left view... i watched a video fullscreen, and closed it... now its just black, and i can see my mouse, but nothing of the window manager pops up ... tho i can rightclick etc... just not showing the windows |
| 14:05.09 | rxKaffee | when working with a large sources.list,is there a way to make apt-get use less ram when updating? I'm getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" errors in the middle of 'apt-get update' |
| 14:05.15 | RvGaTe | fixed it... |
| 14:05.16 | rxKaffee | thats with 51mb ram free |
| 14:05.20 | valdyn | !mmap |
| 14:05.20 | dpkg | somebody said dynamic mmap was "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need |
| 14:05.29 | rxKaffee | great! thanks valdyn |
| 14:05.50 | dnanar | cahoot: yes /etc/motd.tail ! that what i was looking for ! thanks =) |
| 14:06.48 | valdyn | rxKaffee: mmap does not map to any physical ram necessarily, your 51 mb ram free have nothing to do with it ( and are likely a wrong diagnosis too, but that's a different topic ) |
| 14:07.02 | abrotman | rxKaffee: don't you wish #ubuntu were this useful .. you should be running debian! |
| 14:07.10 | rxKaffee | abrotman: I am running debian! |
| 14:07.22 | abrotman | you're mixing distros |
| 14:07.25 | rxKaffee | abrotman: debian refuses to admit php5-syck though from my understanding of the google results |
| 14:07.32 | abrotman | you're not running anything but a pile of poop |
| 14:07.47 | rxKaffee | abrotman: I'm only pulling individual files from other distros :) |
| 14:07.55 | rxKaffee | abrotman: and only ones that debian refuses to put in theirs |
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| 14:07.57 | abrotman | right .. which makes it not debian |
| 14:08.10 | wols | rxKaffee: which means you are mixing, creating new species of unknown bugs |
| 14:08.28 | abrotman | rxKaffee: it's okay ... when it blows up .. you'll only have yourself to blame :) |
| 14:08.30 | rxKaffee | wols: well when I have php5-syck bugs, I'll be sure not to query debian ;) |
| 14:09.10 | valdyn | ignorance leads some people to do funny things really... |
| 14:09.17 | wols | rxKaffee: I doubt anyone will want to help you win anything even remotely related to apache even |
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| 14:09.30 | tosh| | is there any way I can make my system stop selecting eth0 for my wlan pcmcia card? can I make it select eth1 or make eth0 unavailable so it will use a different interface number? |
| 14:09.41 | rxKaffee | wols: I don't have enough ram to run apache ;) |
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| 14:09.54 | wols | tosh|: ifrename. what is wrong with eth? |
| 14:10.01 | rxKaffee | wols: its for php-cli |
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| 14:11.26 | valdyn | tosh|: is udev installed? |
| 14:11.36 | tosh| | wols because my aironet pcmcia wlan card is being recognized by the kernel as eth2 but the /proc values are put in /proc/drivers/aironet/eth1 which breaks my wlan apps |
| 14:11.41 | tosh| | valdyn, yes it is |
| 14:12.03 | valdyn | tosh|: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 14:12.29 | valdyn | tosh|: its quite self explanatory i suppose to change your ifname there |
| 14:12.33 | tosh| | valdyn I'll check it out, thnx |
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| 14:14.33 | tosh| | valdyn works like a charm, thnx! |
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| 14:17.44 | stoned | valdyn: |
| 14:17.47 | stoned | oops |
| 14:18.20 | Joris | I have an odd problem... I'm filtering a list of filenames. grep treats it as an ascii stream (good), but egrep (or grep -e) insists on grepping the content of the files... |
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| 14:18.51 | valdyn | Joris: which command does that? |
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| 14:19.23 | Joris | valdyn: find /somewhere -type f | egrep expression |
| 14:19.30 | Gge | Hi , nm-applet is not launched anymore at start with etch , any idea ? |
| 14:19.46 | Gge | to restore it |
| 14:20.00 | abrotman | wouldn't you want to use -exec ? |
| 14:20.11 | abrotman | oh .. nevermind |
| 14:20.37 | valdyn | Joris: it doesnt |
| 14:20.40 | valdyn | Joris: not here |
| 14:21.17 | Joris | hmm, strange |
| 14:21.33 | jwisher | hi please can anyone give any insight as to why lighttpd isn't trying to bind to the correct ip address for ssl, i pasted the conf and output at http://rafb.net/p/IHRwhD13.html ...it was installed via apt-get |
| 14:22.18 | valdyn | jwisher: because the address is already in use, didnt you see that? |
| 14:22.35 | jwisher | it isn't in use though, it is trying to bind to 0.0.0.0 rather than the ip i specify |
| 14:22.48 | valdyn | jwisher: how do you know its not in use? |
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| 14:22.53 | jwisher | netstat -l |
| 14:23.26 | jwisher | i have two ip addresses, it isn't in use on the ip address i want lighttpd to bind to, but it is trying to bind to 0.0.0.0 |
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| 14:23.34 | wols | what deoes netstat -anp|grep 443 say? |
| 14:23.44 | valdyn | jwisher: netstat -l is not quite suited for this |
| 14:23.59 | wols | jwisher: then your $SERVER["socket"] setting is probably wrong |
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| 14:24.39 | jwisher | tcp 0 0 87.106.131.164:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1761/java |
| 14:24.48 | jwisher | that is the other ip address, the one i'm not trying to bind to |
| 14:24.48 | valdyn | jwisher: *maybe* netstat -l | grep https, but i would want to use something like netstat -plnt |
| 14:25.01 | Joris | valdyn: hmm, user error - my apologies |
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| 14:30.05 | Noborusan | Good night, guys, loves debian :) |
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| 14:31.17 | paddor | where do i have to put "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps" into, so it will be executed at booting time? |
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| 14:31.35 | wols | !tell paddor abour rc.local |
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| 14:31.47 | wols | !tell paddor about rc.local |
| 14:32.02 | valdyn | paddor: you can set that from /etc/sysctl.conf too i guess |
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| 14:32.30 | paddor | and what is with /etc/networking/if-up.d/? not a good idea? |
| 14:32.52 | valdyn | paddor: what's the point? |
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| 14:33.12 | paddor | valdyn: oh yes, sysctl.conf seems to be good. i need to disable tcp-timestamps |
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| 14:34.34 | yster | any dpkg wizards about? |
| 14:35.02 | yster | I can't seem to figure out how to tell dpkg to not assemble a diff as part of the 'debuild' toolchain |
| 14:35.25 | paddor | valdyn: and how to "run" this sysctl.conf? |
| 14:36.35 | vyrus001 | what package provides libbase.so ? |
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| 14:37.19 | abrotman | !search |
| 14:37.19 | dpkg | well, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 14:39.02 | vyrus001 | abrotman, i did search |
| 14:39.06 | vyrus001 | on site as well |
| 14:39.07 | vyrus001 | nothing yet |
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| 14:40.22 | abrotman | !find libbase.so etch |
| 14:40.29 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libbase.so' returned no results. |
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| 14:42.07 | nn | I got a SATA HDD and PATA CDROM.. I wonder whether I still need IDE or IDE CDROM support in the kernel when using one of the new libata PATA drivers |
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| 14:43.08 | nn | the libata driver obviously do not depend on the "IDE" kernel config option# |
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| 14:44.36 | nn | does anyone have a clue whether they are indeed totally independant? |
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| 14:50.05 | vyrus001 | nn, it changes from driver to driver |
| 14:50.21 | vyrus001 | some do and some dont... ive had laptops do bolth |
| 14:50.39 | duns_s | I've googled for pax support in debian, but I've only found that it will be added in the future, is there a way to activate it on testing/unstable now? |
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| 14:51.03 | erik | out of the box, does etch have iptables active ? |
| 14:51.03 | Blissex | duns_s: compile your own kernel? |
| 14:51.33 | asg | duns_s: pax as in grsecurity pax? |
| 14:51.41 | duns_s | asg: exactly |
| 14:52.05 | asg | duns_s: the kernel-patch-grsecurity2 package and paxctl package is in etch |
| 14:52.06 | duns_s | so there is no kernel image with grsecurity patches added= |
| 14:52.15 | duns_s | asg: ah o.k. |
| 14:52.21 | duns_s | asg: thx |
| 14:52.49 | SmallR2002 | anyone know much about pcmcia gprs/umts modems with linux? i'm looking to buy one and not sure what's supported |
| 14:53.05 | wols | erik: there is no default firewall in debian |
| 14:53.14 | wols | !hcl |
| 14:53.15 | dpkg | hcl is probably at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, or http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ |
| 14:53.28 | duns_s | SmallR2002: do you have a mobile? |
| 14:53.40 | SmallR2002 | i have a htc device, yes |
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| 14:54.13 | duns_s | SmallR2002: I use my Nokia e61 with usb and wvdial. It works flawlessly |
| 14:54.19 | SmallR2002 | hmmm |
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| 14:54.24 | SmallR2002 | how much did that set you back? |
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| 14:54.41 | duns_s | SmallR2002: set me back? |
| 14:54.47 | SmallR2002 | cost |
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| 14:55.41 | erik | do etch kernels support iptables ? or do I have to compile anew ? |
| 14:55.49 | duns_s | SmallR2002: 110 euro with o2 in germany and my contract |
| 14:55.55 | SmallR2002 | hmmm |
| 14:56.26 | lvh | they should |
| 14:56.26 | SmallR2002 | i need something for about 30GBP |
| 14:56.26 | lvh | if you load the proper modules |
| 14:56.26 | lvh | I've always compiled my own though |
| 14:56.37 | abrotman | they support iptables |
| 14:56.42 | SmallR2002 | my htc device uses windows mobile dialup drivers which don't seem to be supported on linux |
| 14:57.02 | SmallR2002 | (bloody windows) |
| 14:57.35 | SmallR2002 | so, i'm thinking that if i can have something which just plugs into my laptop for a connection on it when i need one |
| 14:57.52 | duns_s | maybe some express card? |
| 14:58.04 | duns_s | SmallR2002: but sorry i don't know about them |
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| 14:58.21 | SmallR2002 | maybe a cheap nokia |
| 14:58.46 | wathek | is it possible to make computers that are using SMB in network A and computers that are using SMB in network B to see each other ? |
| 14:58.47 | duns_s | the e61, and especially the new e61i rocks |
| 14:58.49 | SmallR2002 | i can't remember if my mum's old nokia had a usb connector, but that might be a cheap way to do things |
| 14:58.56 | wathek | the 2 networks are connected to a Debian Server |
| 14:59.07 | SmallR2002 | i have the mda vario ii (htc hermes) |
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| 15:01.23 | duns_s | udev automatically creates the /dev/ttyACM0 modem terminal for me |
| 15:01.32 | duns_s | it was really easy |
| 15:01.46 | Ranpha1 | I'm using rsync over ssh connection. It works great expect that of today my ssh connection times out ever time. Is there a way to avoid this, set higher settings or a keep-alive option? |
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| 15:02.02 | gamayun | clear |
| 15:03.14 | duns_s | these express cards for umts are damn expensive |
| 15:03.22 | duns_s | you get a mobile for that |
| 15:03.45 | duns_s | SmallR2002: o.k. good luck, i got to go |
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| 15:07.59 | cchance | Whats the command for installing an ssh server onto the box |
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| 15:08.04 | stoned | you know I just might reinstall debian today |
| 15:08.14 | stoned | this kubuntu thing has started to piss me off again |
| 15:08.18 | utopia_ | why stoned |
| 15:08.23 | elenril | how dangerous is using ubuntu packages in debian? |
| 15:08.27 | stoned | keeps crashing |
| 15:08.47 | utopia_ | i've a ubuntu CD in the post, i miss *BSD to be honest though :) |
| 15:08.56 | wols | elenril: so dangerous we won't support such a system |
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| 15:09.11 | schasi | hi |
| 15:09.19 | stoned | flash keeps crashing konqueor and firefox |
| 15:09.24 | stoned | ktorrent keeps crashing |
| 15:09.24 | cchance | i have etch how do i install a ssh server |
| 15:09.31 | stoned | man I swear to god |
| 15:09.35 | xand | apt-get install ssh |
| 15:09.38 | wols | aptitude install ssh |
| 15:09.39 | stoned | debian sid is much more stable than ubuntu it seems |
| 15:09.43 | utopia_ | i've the same problem with iceweasal stoned |
| 15:09.43 | cchance | so i can take this monitor of |
| 15:09.46 | utopia_ | piece of crap++ |
| 15:09.50 | tarzeau | elenril: very dangerous |
| 15:09.51 | stoned | no dude |
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| 15:10.01 | tarzeau | elenril: is there a need? do they have software that debian doesn't have? |
| 15:10.04 | stoned | debian has never given me shit like apps crashing randomly |
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| 15:10.08 | stoned | ever |
| 15:10.22 | sdive | is apache2 and php5 stable in etch? :) |
| 15:10.27 | elenril | tarzeau, i want wxgtk2.8 |
| 15:10.29 | utopia_ | i only get it with iceweasal, & alot..also with mplayer sometimes |
| 15:10.34 | schasi | Do you per change know where evolution keeps the information if a user has a configuration yet? I copied a .evolution from another computer, but when i start evolution it still asks me to configure my account |
| 15:10.37 | tarzeau | stoned: or an ubuntu on sparc whose kernel doesn't boot? :( |
| 15:10.38 | elenril | tarzeau, ubuntu has it |
| 15:10.40 | xand | sdive: yes |
| 15:10.47 | sdive | xand: perfect, thx |
| 15:10.52 | tarzeau | elenril: try take their source package and build it? debian don't have it? not even in sid? |
| 15:11.35 | stoned | I think i'll go back to etch or sid man I dunno |
| 15:11.43 | MoDaX | sdive: yes |
| 15:11.46 | elenril | tarzeau, no, not even experimental |
| 15:11.54 | RichiH | i need to unpack a single file from an installed package and copy that over the existing file |
| 15:11.58 | RichiH | is there a quick way to do that? |
| 15:12.09 | tarzeau | RichiH: what is that single file? a tar.gz? |
| 15:12.15 | cchance | unlike DSL the openssh-server will start up automaticaly at system reboot right |
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| 15:12.20 | RichiH | tarzeau: an /etc file |
| 15:12.30 | tarzeau | RichiH: but etc files are not packed? |
| 15:12.35 | xand | cchance: dunno what you mean "unlike DSL" but yes. |
| 15:12.38 | tarzeau | RichiH: you mean from a debian package? |
| 15:12.41 | RichiH | tarzeau: they are in the package, though |
| 15:12.44 | xand | cchance: my dsl connection starts at boot |
| 15:12.46 | stoned | RichiH: unpack the deb with ar and cp the file to where you want |
| 15:12.54 | tarzeau | RichiH: and you think it's really a file or it's generated (pre/post inst/rm)? |
| 15:12.56 | elenril | tarzeau, i don't see how building from source package will be different from just installing from binary |
| 15:13.07 | tarzeau | elenril: but i see :) |
| 15:13.08 | RichiH | stoned: yah, that is the slow way ;p |
| 15:13.08 | cchance | DSL = Damn Small Linux which ive had to put up with for 2 weeks |
| 15:13.14 | RichiH | stoned: but prolly the one i will take :) |
| 15:13.21 | stoned | RichiH: I don't see another way dude ;) |
| 15:13.25 | xand | cchance: oh thought you meant the other dsl. |
| 15:13.27 | tarzeau | elenril: you know what happens when you build a package? |
| 15:13.35 | RichiH | tarzeau: i just want to kill my /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf and copy the /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf from the phpmyadmin package over it |
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| 15:13.44 | tarzeau | elenril: it might dynamically link against libraries |
| 15:13.54 | tarzeau | elenril: and if one system has them, and the other not, BANG |
| 15:13.56 | cchance | this is going to be easy now that dont have a cracked up system |
| 15:13.58 | RichiH | (and yes, i personally prefer postgres, thank you for not pointing out it is superior to mysql ;) |
| 15:14.15 | stoned | RichiH: I thought it was a well known fact |
| 15:14.19 | stoned | no need to point it out |
| 15:14.20 | stoned | hehe |
| 15:14.49 | elenril | tarzeau, isn't it what depends are for? |
| 15:15.01 | cchance | Where is the MOTD located at? |
| 15:15.08 | tarzeau | elenril: oh well |
| 15:15.10 | stoned | umm /motd? |
| 15:15.14 | tarzeau | elenril: look ubuntu is NOT debian |
| 15:15.21 | tarzeau | elenril: if you don't want to break your system, build it from source |
| 15:15.26 | cchance | Ubuntu is debian |
| 15:15.30 | tarzeau | elenril: if you want to break it, do without rebuilding it |
| 15:15.30 | stoned | no it isn't |
| 15:15.33 | tarzeau | cchance: bullshit |
| 15:15.38 | cchance | Have you seen it |
| 15:15.42 | tarzeau | cchance: yes |
| 15:15.47 | stoned | I use ubuntu too |
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| 15:15.52 | stoned | and it is not debian |
| 15:15.53 | cchance | Then why do uoi say its not |
| 15:15.55 | stew | cchance: ubuntu is off-topic |
| 15:15.59 | cchance | right |
| 15:16.02 | tarzeau | cchance: because it just is not? |
| 15:16.06 | stoned | !based on debian |
| 15:16.06 | dpkg | Your distribution uses <apt>, but is not officialy Debian maintained (see <why Debian>), nor do we manage all aspects of it. (see <Debian policy>) Therefore, we are not obligated to help you (see <based on Debian caveats>). Please visit the proper IRC channel for your distribution. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> to name a few. |
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| 15:16.29 | stew | !tell Fossilet about root |
| 15:16.34 | stoned | hi stew |
| 15:16.46 | cchance | Is there anything in opt? |
| 15:16.58 | cchance | I just cd'd into it and ls's and nothing came out |
| 15:17.09 | stoned | cchance: just build it from source, why do you have to use a ubuntu package |
| 15:17.12 | elenril | tarzeau, okay, thanks |
| 15:17.16 | stew | stoned: hi |
| 15:17.18 | cchance | ? |
| 15:17.23 | cchance | im no |
| 15:17.24 | cchance | .. |
| 15:17.47 | stoned | elenril: |
| 15:17.51 | stoned | not cchance whoops |
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| 15:18.42 | cchance | How do i search packages? apt-get search? |
| 15:18.54 | stoned | !tell cchance -about search |
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| 15:19.26 | tarzeau | is there a way i can check in commandline if icq user x is online or not? and then quit |
| 15:19.27 | cchance | .. |
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| 15:19.46 | stoned | tarzeau: aren't there cli based icq clients? |
| 15:19.57 | phogg | tarzeau: probably you could whip up a perl script to do it |
| 15:19.58 | tarzeau | stoned: but i just want to check if x is online or not, then quit |
| 15:20.03 | utopia_ | is opera a stable browser? |
| 15:20.05 | tarzeau | phogg: i'm a perl illiterate |
| 15:20.13 | tarzeau | utopia_: yes, and non-free |
| 15:20.13 | stoned | utopia_: I like firefox becauuse of extensions |
| 15:20.18 | tarzeau | utopia_: and doesn't exist for amd64 |
| 15:20.24 | stoned | iceweasel whatever |
| 15:20.38 | utopia_ | iceweasel is driving me insane :) |
| 15:20.38 | tarzeau | stoned: is there a iceweasel/ff extension to support animated mouse cursors? |
| 15:20.48 | phogg | utopia_: mostly stable. It crashes less than iceweasel, for me. |
| 15:20.49 | tarzeau | stoned: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_URL_values_for_the_cursor_property |
| 15:20.51 | cchance | how do i shut down |
| 15:20.54 | cchance | from ssh |
| 15:20.54 | stoned | im not really sure |
| 15:20.57 | tarzeau | cchance: poweroff |
| 15:21.02 | stoned | cool |
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| 15:21.07 | cchance | lol |
| 15:21.19 | phogg | tarzeau: is there any standard format for animated mouse cursors? |
| 15:21.23 | cchance | i was going through the code boook last night trying to find it |
| 15:21.31 | xand | or "shutdown" |
| 15:21.42 | stoned | tarzeau: cool i did not know that |
| 15:22.05 | stoned | transformers |
| 15:22.09 | stoned | robots in disguise |
| 15:22.51 | tarzeau | phogg: there's .ani and .gif |
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| 15:25.36 | phogg | tarzeau: .gif does not supply a hot-pixel and .ani is afaik microsoft and not standard |
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| 15:27.16 | norc | I have problems with my nvidia drivers. I have nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-k7, nvidia-glx and nvidia-dev installed, specified driver is "nvidia". I modprobed the module, but xorg reports (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 15:27.19 | norc | any ideas? |
| 15:27.19 | tarzeau | phogg: microsoft is not allowed to make standards? |
| 15:27.36 | norc | (modprobing nvidia was successful btw) |
| 15:27.52 | tarzeau | phogg: well the hot-pixel for the gif should be 0,0 then: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Using_URL_values_for_the_cursor_property |
| 15:27.57 | norc | s/nvidia-dev/nvidia-glx-dev/ |
| 15:27.59 | tarzeau | phogg: or be defined somewhere lese |
| 15:28.02 | tarzeau | else |
| 15:28.11 | cchance | I hope you guys are prepaired for all my questions, im going to have a lot of them untill i get to where i can leave the installation of apts alone |
| 15:28.26 | xand | no |
| 15:28.37 | cchance | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.41 | cchance | so i know its done |
| 15:28.52 | wols | norc: testing? |
| 15:29.04 | norc | wols: affirmative |
| 15:29.10 | wols | !btssmite norc |
| 15:29.18 | abrotman | !beep |
| 15:29.19 | dpkg | beep is, like, /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 15:29.19 | phogg | tarzeau: anyone can produce a format, only by publishing specs to an independant body can it be called a standard. |
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| 15:29.56 | cchance | web1:~# apt-get install beep |
| 15:29.56 | cchance | Reading package lists... Done |
| 15:29.56 | cchance | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 15:29.56 | cchance | E: Couldn't find package beep |
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| 15:29.58 | tarzeau | phogg: so if someone finds out how something works and publishes it, it can't be a standard? |
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| 15:30.20 | cchance | I want that bot |
| 15:30.30 | tarzeau | cchance: cron allows @start to say play some music? |
| 15:30.37 | tarzeau | err @reboot |
| 15:30.48 | cchance | .. |
| 15:31.01 | phogg | tarzeau: not really. What's the difference between a specification and a standard? |
| 15:31.02 | cchance | i can do this with cron? |
| 15:31.04 | stew | cchance: no, you can't do it with cron |
| 15:31.07 | cchance | web1:~# apt-get install beep |
| 15:31.10 | cchance | didnt work |
| 15:31.15 | tarzeau | phogg: not sure, you explain me. so it's a specification? |
| 15:31.28 | stew | cchance: use /etc/rc.local |
| 15:31.33 | tarzeau | phogg: one of them is something that's defined how/what/where is, let's say for file formats |
| 15:31.59 | tarzeau | phogg: and then different software can process that kind of files with that kind of format? |
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| 15:32.54 | mmiikkee12 | i can't start x, it's saying "No valid FontPath could be found" - what do i install to get one? |
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| 15:33.35 | norc | wols: according to the bugtracker the bug im experiencing has been fixed some time ago. |
| 15:33.49 | _RedShift_ | is it possible to have a screensaver (xscreensaver or something) run as the background? |
| 15:34.03 | _RedShift_ | ive tried googling on how to get it to run as the root window, but no such luck so far |
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| 15:35.01 | cchance | how do i setup my ethernet adapter? |
| 15:35.14 | stew | cchance: man interfaces |
| 15:36.16 | cchance | this thing doesnt have sudo? |
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| 15:36.57 | asg | cchance: of course, apt-get install sudo |
| 15:38.49 | cchance | Ok, I need to setup the eth0 like this: IP:192.168.0.5 GW: 192.168.0.1 NS: 209.244.0.3 Anyone got a command to do it? |
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| 15:39.06 | asg | cchance: man 5 interfaces |
| 15:39.26 | asg | cchance: and man resolv.conf (for the nameserver config) |
| 15:41.08 | cchance | Ok, i guess i got it, but why wont apt-get install packages from the net instead of the cd? |
| 15:41.52 | asg | cchance: did you setup your sources.list? If did, did you run apt-get update after the change? |
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| 15:42.10 | cchance | I have to set that up? |
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| 15:42.55 | smhar | hello all |
| 15:43.31 | cchance | Ok where should the sources.list be located |
| 15:43.39 | stew | cchance: man sources.list |
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| 15:43.49 | cchance | .... |
| 15:44.00 | cchance | I do a whole lot better without the man |
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| 15:44.13 | smhar | I just got my first LCD monitor and I want to set it up in debian etch. but gnome shows only upto 1024x768 resolutions |
| 15:44.18 | asg | cchance: then go and read the install guide |
| 15:44.30 | niravana | can linux be forced to encrypt swap like openbsd does? |
| 15:44.35 | stew | cchance: /msg dpkg reference |
| 15:44.42 | cchance | i see now |
| 15:44.43 | wols | smhar: then use the proper driver for your videocard. what chip is it? |
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| 15:44.52 | cchance | the packages are # out |
| 15:45.04 | asg | niravana: it can be configured to do so. search for encrypted swap on debian-administration.org |
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| 15:45.46 | smhar | wols it is a nvidia, and the driver is set accordingly in /etc/xcorg.conf |
| 15:45.47 | niravana | asg: thank you! |
| 15:45.52 | asg | niravana: you're welcome |
| 15:46.02 | wols | smhar: paste your xorg.conf in a pastebin |
| 15:46.28 | valdyn | smhar: 'nvidia' is the drivers name? |
| 15:46.47 | smhar | valdyn, yes |
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| 15:47.15 | valdyn | smhar: which resolutions is your lcd thing capable of? |
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| 15:47.57 | valdyn | smhar: did higher resolutions work before you used that lcd monitor? |
| 15:48.01 | smhar | valdyn, 1440x 900 and 1280x1024 |
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| 15:48.11 | ruth | hi there, I'm having some problems just after installing 7.04 (feisty) |
| 15:48.18 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 15:48.18 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is <based on debian>. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu - See also <based on debian caveats>. |
| 15:48.25 | stew | ruth: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 15:48.33 | vyrus001 | does anybody know where i can still get a the MBROLA binari? ive been trying for hours now and all the mirrors are dead <_< |
| 15:48.36 | times9 | hi does anyone here run VirtualBox? |
| 15:48.54 | ruth | thanks, sorry for using the wrong channel |
| 15:48.55 | smhar | valdyn, previously I had a 14" monitor and I was using 1024x768 :-) |
| 15:49.03 | valdyn | !drxx smhar |
| 15:49.04 | dpkg | smhar: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 15:49.06 | smhar | now I got this 19" baby :-) |
| 15:49.13 | cchance | ok, now how do i install apache, im looking for package names |
| 15:49.24 | yster | someone want to scope this for a sec? (debuild toolchain output) http://paste.debian.net/32288 |
| 15:49.32 | stew | cchance: apache or apache2 |
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| 15:49.42 | cchance | which would be better? |
| 15:49.47 | cchance | security wise |
| 15:50.01 | yster | google says "make distclean lol" but it's not the case with this php5 |
| 15:50.06 | yoshio | my computer tried to talk to 239.255.255.250 (port 1900 udp) - how do I find out what network name this address belongs to, and what program should I install to find which process is trying to do the talking? |
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| 15:50.12 | stew | cchance: there is no difference security-wise, but you should use apache2 unless you have a reason not to |
| 15:50.13 | valdyn | cchance: not running anything php |
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| 15:50.24 | utopia_ | yoshio, netstat |
| 15:50.42 | cchance | gota run php, whats the packages for apache2 |
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| 15:51.31 | stew | cchance: apache2 |
| 15:51.38 | yoshio | utopia_: netstat -punta doesn't show any processes trying to talk to port 1900, nor does it show the particular ip address |
| 15:51.55 | cchance | apt-get install apache2? |
| 15:52.05 | cchance | that it not a package according to apt |
| 15:52.25 | stew | cchance: then you haven't yet setup your sources |
| 15:52.32 | cchance | i just did |
| 15:52.38 | cchance | and updated |
| 15:52.53 | cchance | there were two commented out |
| 15:52.54 | utopia_ | yoshio, try netstat -lnap | grep 1900 |
| 15:53.07 | cchance | i re-opened them and updated |
| 15:53.35 | yoshio | utopia_: nothing showed up when running netstat -lnap |grep 1900 as root |
| 15:53.58 | utopia_ | yoshio, how do you know its open? |
| 15:54.09 | smhar | wols, valdyn xord.conf http://pastebin.com/944403 |
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| 15:54.38 | smhar | if things didn't work out, I will do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 15:54.44 | cchance | ok, where can i get other debian repositories |
| 15:54.52 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 15:54.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 15:55.08 | cchance | haha |
| 15:55.09 | yoshio | utopia_: 'psad' (port scan attack detector)'s email said there was an attempt. actually, it also shows "SCAN UPnP communication attempt", on the iptables OUTPUT chain |
| 15:55.54 | utopia_ | try to connect to the socket, this will do it for u (perl) : use IO::Socket::INET; my $socket = (PeerAddr => 'YOUR_IP', PeerPort=>'1900',Proto=>'tcp'); while(<$socket>) { print $_; } |
| 15:55.57 | yoshio | isn't UPnP a Microsoft thing? |
| 15:56.24 | stew | cchance: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:56.39 | utopia_ | or add .. print $socket 'bleh'; before while and see what response you get |
| 15:56.42 | utopia_ | i dont know yoshio :) |
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| 15:56.56 | utopia_ | plug n play device i think |
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| 15:57.54 | utopia_ | whoops, $socket = IO::Socket::INET->new( PeerAddr => etc ) .. |
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| 15:58.38 | cchance | http://paste.lisp.org/display/44141 |
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| 15:59.23 | utopia_ | yoshio, people @ #security are probably more qualified to answer them questions btw :) when i had an suspicious open port, i used that code up there to see what it was |
| 15:59.32 | stew | cchance: the only mirror you have for 'main' is cd1 and apache2 isn't on cd1, you should add a network mirror /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 16:03.04 | ladydoor | Hi, folks. I searched for this issue in the bug-tracking system but couldn't find anything. I use Debian Testing, and since an update a few days ago, whenever I use aptitude's interactive UI rather than just passing it command-line options, it'll allow me to upgrade/remove/install/whatever any packages I need to, but as soon as it finishes it redraws the screen and exits silently (so I'm left looking at the UI and uselessly pressing |
| 16:03.04 | ladydoor | keys until I hit C-c, at which point it spits me onto an error-free commandline). Any ideas on what's causing this? |
| 16:04.05 | yoshio | utopia_: the perl script didn't show any output. |
| 16:04.14 | yoshio | utopia_: thanks for your help, though |
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| 16:09.31 | utopia_ | yoshio, did it say connected refused though? |
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| 16:10.08 | yoshio | utopia_: no, it didn't |
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| 16:12.27 | utopia_ | yoshio, it would have if it were closed, i'd try #security |
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| 16:13.07 | yoshio | utopia_: ok |
| 16:13.17 | utopia_ | sorry i couldnt help :) |
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| 16:13.30 | acu_ | I want to take over a Vista screen can anyone tell me what should I use in Linux box and what the Vista Computer should have on ? |
| 16:14.09 | Maakuth | rdesktop on linux |
| 16:14.30 | Maakuth | and enable desktop sharing or something like that in windows |
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| 16:15.14 | schasi | does vista have the ole rdesktop thingie? |
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| 16:15.48 | pocukrani | ssl support is`t good idea for web page on home server? |
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| 16:16.19 | cchance | i dont get how to do this repository setup |
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| 16:16.45 | cchance | why cant there be a thing like ubuntu that will output what you need to put into sources.list |
| 16:16.50 | yoshio | utopia_: I tried port 54, which I don't use, withyour script, and it still doesn't give me a connection refused message either |
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| 16:17.24 | abrotman | cchance: you could just use ubuntu .. |
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| 16:18.07 | cchance | I though ubuntu wasnt debian |
| 16:18.17 | wols | it's not |
| 16:18.17 | abrotman | it's not |
| 16:18.19 | stew | cchance: iirc the ubuntu thing doesn't tell you what to put in sources.list but tells you what to install based on a correctly setup sources.list |
| 16:18.35 | cchance | no |
| 16:18.48 | cchance | they have a wizard that will output exactly what you putinto it |
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| 16:18.51 | yoshio | ladydoor: hit C-t to get the menu - you need to hit 'g' to install |
| 16:18.54 | wols | stew: it does tell you what to put in your sources.list |
| 16:19.45 | stew | wols: command-not-found? or something else? |
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| 16:20.33 | smhar | hi again |
| 16:20.57 | wols | stew: it's a webpage IIRC. they have a factoid about it with ubotu |
| 16:21.50 | stew | cchance: you need to add any debian mirror, /msg dpkg debian ; /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 16:22.01 | smhar | I just reconfigured xorg to use my new 19" LCD monitor and everything seems to work fine including the maximum resolution but... I keep seeing a flickering lines like like scanning at the left edge of the monitor... is this normal?! |
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| 16:22.46 | stew | cchance: you have a debian mirror currently, but you are telling it to only get the non-debian software from 'contrib' instead of also including the debian software in 'main' |
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| 16:25.20 | ladydoor | yoshio: Thanks, but as I said before, installing is not a problem. *After* it completes the actions I've selected is when the problem starts. |
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| 16:27.10 | smhar | this is my xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/944416 |
| 16:27.22 | rares000 | when it's time to log in the font is huge in kdm how do I fix this? |
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| 16:27.40 | MangosDebian | stew: heya. get that svn url earlier? |
| 16:28.03 | utopia_ | yoshio, sorry beside the brackets put or die("$!\n"); |
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| 16:28.15 | yoshio | ladydoor: what do you mean by exits silently, but you're still looking at the ui? |
| 16:28.23 | utopia_ | like $socket = ...( ) or die("$!\n"); |
| 16:28.28 | utopia_ | that'll tell you |
| 16:28.34 | utopia_ | i dont function that gr8 stoned =\ |
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| 16:28.58 | stew | MangosDebian: yeah, i haven't looked though |
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| 16:29.17 | ladydoor | yoshio: Yeah, it's weird. Basically, it won't accept any user input, but C-c tosses me onto a commandline that has no errors, but *does* have any keys I've pressed during that input-free time. |
| 16:29.31 | cchance | ah ta heck with it il just download the deb packages |
| 16:29.52 | ladydoor | yoshio: (i.e., the keys have been going to the shell rather than to aptitude) |
| 16:29.56 | MangosDebian | stew: cool. the version I gave you earlier actually had a minor bug since I mixed the new db name var with the db handle. The svn has examples and better readme now too when you get a chance |
| 16:31.00 | norc | is it also possible to downgrade from testing to stable? |
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| 16:32.04 | Eulex | norc, well, yes, probably, but it's unsupported and you will probably encounter quite some problems while doing it. |
| 16:32.08 | urv | norc: yes but there is no guaranty to succeed |
| 16:33.06 | norc | Eulex: So I should rather delete all directories except for /home and install a fresh stable on top of it? |
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| 16:33.30 | utopia_ | is that script connecting to port 1900? |
| 16:33.58 | urv | norc: well you could first try it to downgrade right? |
| 16:34.04 | smhar | problem is that one specific resolution doesn't show up in gnome options: 1280x1024 although it is in the xcorg.conf file! |
| 16:34.14 | utopia_ | yoshio, |
| 16:34.23 | norc | urv: Question is what problems could appear. Maybe there will be errors I can't determine or detect at that time. |
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| 16:34.50 | norc | urv: How would I downgrade then, dist-upgrade? |
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| 16:36.29 | urv | norc: you have to pin the packages from the stable version to something bigger than 1000 |
| 16:36.31 | ladydoor | norc: whatever you do (this may seem obvious but you'd be surprised how many people skip this step), BACK UP any important data you have. That's any file you do not want to potentially lose. Not that dist-upgrades do that, necessarily--but major changes to your system can be risky sometimes. |
| 16:36.47 | urv | norc: and then do an dist-upgrade - but do a back up first |
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| 16:37.05 | stew | dist-upgrade won't downgrade anypackages |
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| 16:37.18 | urv | norc: man apt_preferences |
| 16:37.22 | stew | norc: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 16:37.24 | yoshio | utopia_: with your script, if the protocol is tcp, and the port is not open, then I get a connection refused. however, if it is udp, it hangs for a long time, rather than showing connection refused |
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| 16:38.17 | utopia_ | yoshio, yeah then it sounds likes its open via UDP |
| 16:38.41 | norc | ladydoor: Well, I don't suppose that a dist-upgrade would have any influence on my /home/ directory |
| 16:38.44 | norc | err? |
| 16:39.21 | utopia_ | yoshio, inside the while script, put print 'true'; and you'll know if its open |
| 16:39.25 | yoshio | utopia_: but I tried a different random port, with udp, and it also hangs rather than giving a connection refused |
| 16:39.26 | norc | urv: Anyway, it looks a bit rough, not sure if I want to try it if there isn't even a guarantee that it works |
| 16:39.54 | ladydoor | norc: It shouldn't, but it's always good to be careful when making major changes. Also, in general. I recently had a harddrive crash, for example, and was *not* glad I did not have backups. |
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| 16:40.18 | urv | norc: i do understand it |
| 16:40.31 | smhar | if a resolution is set in xorg.conf, shouldn't it be listed in gnome as option? |
| 16:41.04 | norc | ladydoor: Well, you are referring to hardware problems. |
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| 16:41.44 | norc | smhar: It dependes if gnomes menu actually parse the xorg.conf |
| 16:41.48 | norc | *parses |
| 16:41.52 | utopia_ | let's put a bet on, how many times can iceweasal crash in two hours |
| 16:42.13 | ladydoor | norc: Yes, but software problems are also an issue. If you don't want to make backups (note also that I'm not the only one who suggested this), fine. |
| 16:42.47 | norc | ladydoor: Do you make backups each time you install a package? |
| 16:42.47 | yoshio | utopia_: I have: use IO::Socket::INET; my $socket = IO::Socket::INET->new(PeerAddr => '127.0.0.1', PeerPort=>'8088',Pro |
| 16:42.47 | yoshio | to=>'udp') or die("$!\n"); print $socket; while(<$socket>) { print $_; print true; } -- 8088 is a random port which should not be open, and I want udp - script hangs, doesn't print connection refused |
| 16:43.02 | smhar | norc, how else can I use that resolution? |
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| 16:43.45 | norc | smhar: If you set it properly in your xorg.conf it kind of dependes on your window manager, but in most Crtl+Alt+[numblock-/+] will do the job |
| 16:43.48 | utopia_ | yoshio, print $socket "some data"; so that if it is a serivce/something listening thats genuine it should print back some error msg |
| 16:43.51 | utopia_ | i think |
| 16:44.00 | aeshyamae | anyone working on sphinx here? |
| 16:44.01 | yoshio | smhar: when you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, does that resolution show up? |
| 16:44.12 | aeshyamae | or speech recognition? |
| 16:44.12 | utopia_ | but if true doesnt appear on your screen either, the socket isnt open for reading |
| 16:44.22 | smhar | yoshio, yes, and it was automatically checked |
| 16:44.34 | norc | smhar: but there is also another sane way, hold on |
| 16:44.39 | ladydoor | norc: No, but I do before a dist-upgrade. I'm crazy like that. Anyway, I am really not interested in discussing this further. You do what you want and I'll do what I want. |
| 16:45.19 | Gge | How i can have nm-applet to run at boot automatically ? |
| 16:45.19 | yoshio | utopia_: after I put in print $socket "some data"; , then the script returns immediately with no output |
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| 16:45.48 | utopia_ | yoshio, then the ports definetly open & it closes the connection on you |
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| 16:46.10 | norc | ladydoor: All I'm saying is that everything can go wrong, and since apt-get requires root permissions to operate you risk your entire system each time you use it. |
| 16:46.23 | cchance | On the netinst cd is make installed? |
| 16:46.36 | utopia_ | yoshio, did #security not help out? they were helpful when i had suspicious open ports |
| 16:46.42 | mmiikkee12 | is there an up-to-date tutorial somewhere on getting nvidia drivers to work on testing? |
| 16:46.51 | yoshio | utopia_: haven't been tehre yet |
| 16:46.59 | utopia_ | worth the trip :) |
| 16:47.49 | yoshio | utopia_: if I use tcp, then I get the connection refused with a random non open port. if I use udp, then I get no output immediately |
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| 16:49.44 | utopia_ | yoshio, so what do you get when you try the port you think is open |
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| 16:50.56 | x_link | How do I restart vsftpd? |
| 16:50.59 | yoshio | utopia_: port 1900, localhost, udp - no output |
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| 16:51.26 | smhar | I 've tried many things and restarted X server several times but these two problems still exist |
| 16:51.41 | JeffH | anyone know if the debian package of courier-imap-ssl is configured to do tls? |
| 16:51.56 | abrotman | i'm sure it has docs |
| 16:52.03 | utopia_ | yoshio, use your IP address for the internet instead to connect to so then you know whats open to other people on the net |
| 16:52.07 | yoshio | utopia_: I got the psad warning when I was doing a dist-upgrade - maybe some package when upgrading wanted to talk to port 1900, but it seems weird that it wanted to talk on the OUTPUT chain |
| 16:52.12 | cchance | IS there an example file out there that will give me the basic repositories? |
| 16:52.23 | smhar | 1) a resolution that is in xconf.org and within the capabilities of the monitor and the driver is not available to me. |
| 16:52.31 | utopia_ | sorry man im so wacked i can hardly put sentances together |
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| 16:53.26 | smhar | 2) in the maximum resolution, there is a one inch region alongside the left edge of the monitor that keeps flickering |
| 16:53.33 | yoshio | utopia_: like I said, the protocol was udp, so there will be no output anyway. I tried iwth the outside address, still no output as expected |
| 16:54.16 | utopia_ | ohh i was wondering why you kept trying udp :) |
| 16:54.28 | utopia_ | doesn't sound like anything to be suspicious of to me, anyway |
| 16:54.32 | JarJarBinks | does anybody know how I can log my keypresses in xorg |
| 16:54.43 | Eulex | smhar, driver and card? |
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| 16:54.50 | utopia_ | JarJarBinks, with a keylogger |
| 16:55.02 | JarJarBinks | I acidently do some keyboard sequence involving ctrl (but not backspace) which kills X |
| 16:55.13 | JarJarBinks | utopia_: I meant do you know a keylogger |
| 16:55.19 | stew | cchance: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 16:55.32 | JarJarBinks | lkl wont cooperte with me |
| 16:55.37 | utopia_ | JarJarBinks, ohhh noo but google xkeylogger or 'X11 keyloggers' |
| 16:55.46 | yoshio | utopia_: ok |
| 16:56.06 | JarJarBinks | utopia_: thx |
| 16:56.11 | acu_ | is any open source video chat solution available both for microsoft and linux ? |
| 16:56.29 | cchance | What is that tar command |
| 16:56.30 | JarJarBinks | acu_: kopete |
| 16:56.34 | smhar | Eulex, it is nvidia driver for GForce 440 AGP |
| 16:56.35 | JarJarBinks | with msn |
| 16:56.38 | xand | cchance: "tar" |
| 16:57.12 | smhar | Eulex, and Mercury 1981TWN monitor |
| 16:57.14 | cchance | ? |
| 16:57.17 | cchance | as in the command |
| 16:57.22 | Mauna_Loa | hi all. I'm running debian etch but would like to upgrade it to debian lenny. Is the upgrade only a matter of changing the sources.list (substituting mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny') and making a dist-upgrade? If so, should I use "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "aptitude dist-upgrade" ? |
| 16:57.23 | cchance | tar -xfv or something |
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| 16:57.39 | stew | cchance: you'll have to ask a more specific question |
| 16:57.44 | stew | cchance: or /msg dpkg tar |
| 16:57.45 | tralala | cchance, man tar will tell you about it |
| 16:57.48 | yoshio | utopia_: sudo lsof -i :53 shows my local dns server (it shows udp). sudo lsof -i :1900 shows no output, I guess I'm ok |
| 16:57.58 | Joris | Mauna_Loa: either should do, but I'd still recommend aptitude |
| 16:58.01 | jetscreamer | stiiiil going... |
| 16:58.16 | abrotman | !tell Mauna_Loa about etch->lenny |
| 16:58.21 | Eulex | smhar, the binary nvidia driver? well, complain to nvidia... |
| 16:58.25 | utopia_ | yoshio, im happy for you, nothing worse then worrying has somebody access to your machine |
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| 16:58.33 | hark | cchance: xvf not xfv |
| 16:58.48 | smhar | Eulex, wait then.. I will cjeck the nv driver too |
| 16:58.52 | shwouchk | Hi |
| 16:59.01 | mmiikkee12 | is there an up-to-date tutorial somewhere on getting the nvidia drivers to work on testing? |
| 16:59.04 | shwouchk | Wish me luck - Ill be trying to upgrade a live ubuntu system into debian |
| 16:59.05 | Mauna_Loa | Joris and Abrotman: thanks for your help. I will do an "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
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| 16:59.25 | stew | shwouchk: that is not recommended nor supported |
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| 17:00.00 | shwouchk | stew: by means of reformatting that is... like upgrading from slack for instance... I have no choice |
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| 17:01.10 | stew | shwouchk: ahh, ok. i figured you meant change sources from ubuntu to debian and dist-upgrade or something |
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| 17:01.25 | smhar | Eulex, ok.. changed the driver to nv and everything above 1024x768 is removed from gnome list |
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| 17:01.54 | shwouchk | stew: yeah, thats what I assumed you thought :P... hopefully debootstrap works well |
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| 17:02.20 | Eulex | smhar, have you checked your Xorg.0.log? |
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| 17:03.59 | shwouchk | stew: do you happen to know wether stock ubuntu kernels boot well into debian? |
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| 17:04.30 | yoshio | utopia_: thanks again for your help |
| 17:05.03 | cchance | guys, there has got to be a generator for the repositories somewhere, |
| 17:05.12 | cchance | no one knows? |
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| 17:05.30 | Eulex | cchance, generate a repository from what? |
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| 17:05.51 | hark | cchance: etch? /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 17:06.24 | abrotman | cchance: why do you need a generator ? |
| 17:06.47 | xand | blackouts? |
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| 17:09.16 | cchance | because i dont know how to do this |
| 17:09.20 | cchance | ive never done it before |
| 17:09.27 | xand | !sources.list |
| 17:09.28 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:09.32 | cchance | I KNOW THAT |
| 17:09.36 | cchance | sorry |
| 17:10.06 | shwouchk | can debian run well off stock ubuntu kernels? |
| 17:11.07 | cchance | my mind is going to explode |
| 17:11.19 | cchance | can some one lend me their list |
| 17:11.31 | valdyn | shwouchk: why do you want a ubuntu kernel? |
| 17:11.33 | jelly-home | shwouchk: If it can run with vanilla kernels, there's no particular reason why ubuntu builds and patches would be problematic. Of course, they might be doing strange things in the package, but that's not kernel's fault |
| 17:11.33 | Eulex | shwouchk, umh, it should. but why are you asking? |
| 17:11.47 | abrotman | cchance: what is wrong with your sources ? |
| 17:12.15 | abrotman | cchance: why are you trying so hard to mess with your sources ? |
| 17:12.20 | shwouchk | jelly-home: nor am I blaming anyone - I'm just asking wether it does run |
| 17:12.29 | jelly-home | cchance: you should have one in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 17:12.37 | jelly-home | shwouchk: well, try it. |
| 17:12.42 | abrotman | shwouchk: yes it should run .. any weirdness it brings is on you .. |
| 17:12.52 | valdyn | shwouchk: its not that simple |
| 17:13.11 | valdyn | shwouchk: they will run on some systems, they are different and we havent tested them. |
| 17:13.18 | shwouchk | Eulex, valdyn: Im doing a debootstrap from ubuntu to debian and I wanted to not format /boot |
| 17:13.25 | shwouchk | I see |
| 17:13.29 | abrotman | shwouchk: it's still going to install a debian kernel |
| 17:13.39 | shwouchk | oh cool |
| 17:13.49 | abrotman | and you'd be better off using the debian kernel instead of something that we have no idea what's in it |
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| 17:13.57 | valdyn | shwouchk: you kernel needs stuff in /lib/ too |
| 17:14.10 | abrotman | oh .. technicality! |
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| 17:14.53 | cchance | becuase my source does not include apache |
| 17:14.56 | cchance | nor mysql |
| 17:14.58 | cchance | nor php |
| 17:14.59 | cchance | nothing |
| 17:15.10 | JeffH | anyone know where I can find a simple howto on creating certificates? |
| 17:15.17 | abrotman | cchance: paste your sources somewhere |
| 17:15.20 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:15.20 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:15.42 | shwouchk | abrotman: well, I just wanted to be sure Ill be able to boot even if something goes wrong... Im also making my own kernel just in case |
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| 17:16.04 | abrotman | shwouchk: and as valdyn just pointed out .. the ubuntu kernel has modules in /lib/ .. if you format / .. you'll lose those |
| 17:16.05 | shwouchk | valdyn: well, Im sure it can still boot w/o the modules |
| 17:16.21 | cchance | http://rafb.net/p/4KR0Xf73.html |
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| 17:16.52 | abrotman | cchance: comment out the cdrom line and then add |
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| 17:17.16 | cchance | add what? |
| 17:17.21 | abrotman | i'm gettin ghtere .. be patient |
| 17:17.23 | cchance | i dont know what too add |
| 17:17.41 | abrotman | deb http://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/debian/ etch main |
| 17:17.48 | abrotman | and then run aptitude update |
| 17:17.49 | shwouchk | abrotman: I just want it to boot with network - no need for modules there, afaik |
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| 17:18.04 | abrotman | shwouchk: is your network driver built into the kernel ? |
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| 17:18.38 | valdyn | shwouchk: the stuff needed to boot is in your initrd, probably not the network stuff |
| 17:18.44 | cchance | web1:/home/owner# aptitude update |
| 17:18.44 | cchance | E: Malformed line 10 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) |
| 17:18.44 | cchance | E: Couldn't read list of package sources |
| 17:18.44 | oush | Hi iv just installed debian |
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| 17:18.55 | oush | It wont let me update it says connection timed out |
| 17:19.04 | oush | it wont let me change my resuiliton from 640! |
| 17:19.11 | oush | can anyone help me out with that? |
| 17:19.17 | oush | It lets me go on the net and download stuff |
| 17:19.17 | abrotman | cchance: paste your sources somewhere again |
| 17:19.29 | shwouchk | abrotman: oh actually it looks like it isnt.. anyway, Ill make a custom kernel |
| 17:19.41 | abrotman | shwouchk: you could just use the regular debian installer |
| 17:19.49 | abrotman | MangosDebian: i almost reported you as spam :) |
| 17:19.54 | Jemt | Greetz. I have just set up postfix, and it seems to work - but I can only send messages to e-mail addresses hosted on the server itself. I get an error if I try to send a message to an e-mail address hosted on another server system. The error: An error occured while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 - <mail@address.com>: Relay access denied. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again. |
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| 17:20.11 | shwouchk | abrotman: I will, but you know - just in case - this is very risky |
| 17:20.19 | abrotman | okay ... |
| 17:20.36 | cchance | http://rafb.net/p/UgAFgX91.html |
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| 17:20.50 | abrotman | no .. paste your sources.list .. not hte output |
| 17:21.07 | abrotman | oh .. hold on |
| 17:21.23 | abrotman | cchance: moment |
| 17:21.23 | cchance | http://rafb.net/p/Wtrkta49.html |
| 17:21.53 | abrotman | delete the line i just gave you .. i'll give you another to add |
| 17:22.02 | jetscreamer | in fear of abrotman's wrath, /me doesn't paste the example sources.list url , http://linux.hfds.com/files/sources.list |
| 17:22.02 | oush | can someone help me please? |
| 17:22.14 | abrotman | deb http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/ etch main contrib |
| 17:22.16 | abrotman | cchance: ^^ |
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| 17:22.35 | abrotman | jetscreamer: yeah .. because he's not having enough problems .. good fucking idea |
| 17:22.36 | oush | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.18-4-amd64_2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2_amd64.deb |
| 17:22.36 | oush | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.02 | cchance | doing something now |
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| 17:23.26 | cchance | I think you got it buddy |
| 17:23.26 | jetscreamer | oush: usually when i get that, i just wait a bit... it's like the listing is there but the package hasn't uploaded yet |
| 17:23.29 | Eulex | oush, apt-get update. |
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| 17:24.13 | cchance | Get:4 http://ftp.egr.msu.edu etch/main Packages [5638kB] |
| 17:24.13 | cchance | 8% [4 Packages 387168/5638kB 6%] |
| 17:24.29 | abrotman | okay .. so wait |
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| 17:24.59 | cchance | I know just showing |
| 17:25.03 | cchance | :) |
| 17:25.07 | oush | apt-get update |
| 17:25.13 | oush | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) |
| 17:25.13 | oush | E: Unable to lock the list directory |
| 17:25.13 | oush | securicore@securicore:~$ |
| 17:25.18 | abrotman | are you root ? |
| 17:25.21 | abrotman | apparently not |
| 17:25.23 | oush | yes.... |
| 17:25.24 | oush | i am lol |
| 17:25.25 | abrotman | no |
| 17:25.27 | oush | im confused now |
| 17:25.28 | yigal | oush: dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:25.32 | abrotman | yigal: that won't help |
| 17:25.46 | yigal | abrotman: sorry just jumped into a conversation i am unfamiliar with |
| 17:26.03 | cchance | sudo apt-get update |
| 17:26.03 | oush | securicore@securicore:~$ dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:26.03 | oush | dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
| 17:26.03 | oush | securicore@securicore:~$ |
| 17:26.03 | oush | securicore@securicore:~$ dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:26.04 | oush | dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
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| 17:26.06 | cchance | yigal ^^ |
| 17:26.14 | abrotman | cchance: you're not helping either :) |
| 17:26.17 | valdyn | hes just not root |
| 17:26.22 | abrotman | i noticed .. he says he is |
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| 17:26.33 | oush | :S |
| 17:26.35 | abrotman | oush: you're still not root |
| 17:26.44 | oush | how do i make myself root? |
| 17:26.45 | abrotman | and ignore yigal's command . .it won't help you in any way |
| 17:26.47 | yigal | kind of a shame, to realize when superuser privileges are necessary |
| 17:26.50 | abrotman | oush: su |
| 17:26.57 | mmiikkee12 | oush, sudo dpkg ... or su -c 'dpkg ...' |
| 17:27.03 | yigal | excuse me s/realize/"note realize" |
| 17:27.04 | cchance | i was going to say that |
| 17:27.06 | oush | ok im root now |
| 17:27.12 | abrotman | oush: aptitude update |
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| 17:27.18 | abrotman | oush: then aptitude upgrade again |
| 17:27.22 | klx_integra | hi all |
| 17:27.45 | oush | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 17:27.45 | oush | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 17:27.45 | oush | E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 17:27.45 | oush | securicore:/home/securicore# |
| 17:27.45 | oush | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 17:27.52 | abrotman | jesus he's dense |
| 17:27.54 | wireless | is there anyone that can help me configure wireless in my debian laptop? |
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| 17:28.17 | stew | !tell oush about paste |
| 17:28.17 | oush | not working |
| 17:28.17 | stew | oush: please stop pasting in the channel |
| 17:28.18 | oush | ok sorry |
| 17:28.22 | abrotman | cchance: did you get your apache yet? |
| 17:28.23 | oush | what should i do now? |
| 17:28.29 | oush | and it wont let me change my resolution :S |
| 17:28.30 | abrotman | is someone else instlaling stuff ? |
| 17:28.36 | oush | No,=... |
| 17:28.42 | oush | its only 1 pc |
| 17:28.50 | oush | i just installed debian on it 5 minutes ago |
| 17:28.58 | yigal | oush: see if you have a process that is running like apt by issuing "ps -A" |
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| 17:29.06 | wireless | I have a linksys wrt54gl wireless router and a d-link usb wireless DWL-G122 |
| 17:29.18 | yigal | oush: you may need to kill the process before installing anything works |
| 17:29.23 | oush | Reading package lists... Done |
| 17:29.26 | oush | its working now :) |
| 17:29.31 | oush | ok thats the update done |
| 17:29.33 | oush | right ? |
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| 17:29.38 | norc | thats interesting, is it possible, that decoding movies for playback heavily dependes on the graphics driver? |
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| 17:29.48 | valdyn | norc: no |
| 17:29.51 | namelesss | hi |
| 17:29.54 | wireless | I am using the router with ethernet cable and it works ok, but I can't make wireless work, any help? |
| 17:29.56 | norc | valdyn: are you really sure? |
| 17:30.01 | Eulex | norc, not the decoding step. |
| 17:30.10 | abrotman | wireless: we need the chipset of your wifi card |
| 17:30.12 | valdyn | norc: yes |
| 17:30.15 | norc | Eulex: But the playback step then |
| 17:30.17 | Eulex | norc, it's all done in software. |
| 17:30.22 | oush | Why wont it let me change my resolution??? |
| 17:30.33 | norc | Eulex: mhmm |
| 17:30.46 | yigal | oush: 1st you want to install software and now change resolution? |
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| 17:30.49 | Eulex | oush, because you've selected the wrong gfx driver???? |
| 17:30.54 | wireless | abrotman: chipset? well, I already have the module for it, rt73usb |
| 17:31.04 | oush | i never selected anything it done everything by itself.... |
| 17:31.05 | yigal | wireless: try rt73 |
| 17:31.12 | yigal | wireless: older but it works |
| 17:31.28 | shwouchk | hmm |
| 17:31.31 | wireless | yigal: I already have rt73 working, but I have never set up a wifi on my laptop |
| 17:31.39 | shwouchk | do debian stock support reiser4? |
| 17:31.47 | oush | see why im confused why half the crap is not working! |
| 17:31.51 | krazykit | shwouchk, nope. |
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| 17:31.54 | valdyn | shwouchk: no |
| 17:31.54 | yigal | wireless: i have played with the same card with success, don't give up |
| 17:31.56 | Eulex | oush, well, at least you accepted its autodetected choice. and apparently it failed. what graphics card? |
| 17:31.57 | wireless | yigal: by the way, I installed rt2.0 and in it there is a rt73, so not that old |
| 17:32.02 | abrotman | oush: take a moment .. fix one thing at a time |
| 17:32.12 | xand | and... breathe |
| 17:32.21 | oush | its an onboard graphic card |
| 17:32.21 | abrotman | heck with that! |
| 17:32.23 | oush | ASrock motherboard |
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| 17:32.29 | abrotman | oush: lspci | grep VGA |
| 17:32.33 | wireless | yigal: I know how to set up a cable ethernet connection, but never tried a wireless, any hint as to how to progress? |
| 17:32.49 | xand | wireless: with your nick you should be an expert :P |
| 17:33.03 | klx_integra | lol |
| 17:33.03 | norc | Eulex: I'm just asking, because with the nv driver it appears, that two different issues have been resolved. Firstly A/V is always out of sync -100ms, secondly I always experienced a lot of glitches |
| 17:33.08 | oush | 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2) |
| 17:33.12 | yigal | wireless: where have you had difficulties? |
| 17:33.15 | norc | s/is/was/ |
| 17:33.24 | abrotman | oush: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... choose the 'nv' driver (for now) |
| 17:33.41 | abrotman | oush: and you have to be root to run that command |
| 17:33.48 | valdyn | norc: how do you know its 100ms out of sync? stopwatch? |
| 17:33.50 | wireless | yigal: I can scan networks, but I don't know how to activate a network for working, I know about iwlist scanning |
| 17:34.16 | namelesss | hi |
| 17:34.20 | Eulex | norc, A/V sync would have nothing to do with it, glitches might have something to do with it. did you just upgrade the nv driver or other stuff too? |
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| 17:34.24 | oush | yeh iv loged in |
| 17:34.24 | namelesss | i want to install debian with xfce |
| 17:34.28 | oush | and its letting me run the command |
| 17:34.29 | namelesss | how can i do that ? |
| 17:34.30 | wireless | yigal: what is the standard device for wireless? for ethernet it's eth |
| 17:34.33 | yigal | wireless: are you trying to connect to a server, or act as a server? |
| 17:34.42 | Eulex | namelesss, you install debian, then you install xfce |
| 17:34.44 | namelesss | wireless : wlan ? |
| 17:34.46 | wireless | yigal: I want to be a client |
| 17:34.50 | xand | wireless: depends |
| 17:34.54 | valdyn | norc: there's no way you could measure this accurately as far as i can see |
| 17:34.54 | yigal | wireless: it depends on the version for you it could be: rausb0 or wlan0 |
| 17:34.55 | namelesss | Eulex yes but i don't want to burn 6 cd |
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| 17:35.04 | yigal | wireless: the standard is wlan |
| 17:35.06 | wireless | I have a wireless router, and want my laptop to connect to this router |
| 17:35.16 | Eulex | namelesss, you don't have to do that either. |
| 17:35.22 | yigal | wireless: so what is "ifconfig -a" say? |
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| 17:35.36 | oush | use kernal framebuffer? |
| 17:35.38 | namelesss | Eulex, can you give me a .iso fto install a basic debian ? |
| 17:35.39 | suwro | hello |
| 17:35.40 | yigal | wireless: is your device there? |
| 17:35.56 | wireless | yigal: ifconfig -a shows wlan0 and wmaster0 |
| 17:35.56 | Eulex | namelesss, the netinstaller? |
| 17:36.00 | abrotman | oush: no |
| 17:36.03 | oush | ok |
| 17:36.04 | namelesss | ok |
| 17:36.10 | suwro | anyone know if on turion 64 can have flash plugin ?? |
| 17:36.18 | wireless | yigal: they were created by some network-admin program |
| 17:36.22 | abrotman | suwro: depends on the OS .. not the CPU |
| 17:36.23 | fsteves_ | What compression is Etch using on initial ramdisks? |
| 17:36.23 | jetscreamer | 'probably' not but i dunno |
| 17:36.25 | Eulex | namelesss, however, do just use it if the box has internet access. |
| 17:36.30 | fsteves_ | I need to cat something to the end of it |
| 17:36.39 | jetscreamer | cramfs i tink |
| 17:36.43 | fsteves_ | ls |
| 17:36.43 | yigal | wireless: ah, i think you are using rt73usb, are you using GNOME? |
| 17:36.44 | suwro | abrotman: debian linux 64 |
| 17:36.47 | jetscreamer | not chure |
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| 17:36.56 | wireless | yigal: yes, I use gnome |
| 17:36.57 | jetscreamer | try file |
| 17:36.59 | abrotman | suwro: you can .. but it's not easy |
| 17:37.05 | wireless | yigal: yes, I am using rt73usb |
| 17:37.07 | yigal | wireless: really for your chipset it would be safer to use rt73. |
| 17:37.08 | valdyn | !nspluginwrapper |
| 17:37.09 | dpkg | somebody said nspluginwrapper was a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with Flash and a few others. It is officially in *unstable*, while unofficial *stable/Etch* packages are available at http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian/ |
| 17:37.25 | wireless | yigal: what? rt73 rather than rt73usb? |
| 17:37.26 | valdyn | suwro: ^^^ |
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| 17:37.42 | yigal | wireless: if you say you have both drivers, to answer your latest, "absolutely" |
| 17:37.42 | suwro | abrotman: do i have to use debootstrap an install 32 bit ver ? |
| 17:37.44 | wireless | yigal: but I am using a usb one! |
| 17:37.45 | Jemt | How do I set up a ServerAlias for a domain on Apache2 that redirects to /var/www/phpmyadmin ? I know the ServerAlias syntax, but not how to point it to a specific location on the webserver |
| 17:37.50 | oush | ok what do i do now? |
| 17:38.00 | abrotman | suwro: nope .. valdyn pointed you to a place you can make it "work" |
| 17:38.08 | suwro | hey - i am on wireless too - dell inspiron 1501 n series |
| 17:38.11 | abrotman | Jemt: httpd.apache.org/docs/ |
| 17:38.17 | fsteves_ | that wasnt it |
| 17:38.22 | yigal | wireless: usb refers to work in progress, rt73 works very well, they are very different drivers |
| 17:38.31 | fsteves_ | no cramfs superblocks |
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| 17:38.37 | suwro | nspluginwrapper ok |
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| 17:38.39 | wireless | yigal: I don't have rt73 installed right now, but I could do it if necessary |
| 17:38.41 | Jemt | abrotman: I'm not sure where to look. I'm reading in the ServerAlias section at the moment; http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#serveralias |
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| 17:38.50 | oush | abrtoman should i reformate debian? |
| 17:38.53 | abrotman | Jemt: seems like a good place to start |
| 17:38.57 | abrotman | oush: why? |
| 17:38.57 | yigal | wireless: it is very easy get the nightly cvs from http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ |
| 17:39.08 | oush | cos i set it as webserver rather then desktop pc |
| 17:39.14 | oush | could that be why half the crap dont work? |
| 17:39.15 | wireless | yigal: I have rt2x00 installed, it's in stable now |
| 17:39.16 | abrotman | !find rt2500 etch |
| 17:39.20 | oush | and i have the 64 bit as well |
| 17:39.24 | yigal | wireless: good |
| 17:39.26 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rt2500' (3): (/usr/share/menu/rt2500) in net/rt2500 ;; (/usr/src/rt2500.tar.gz, /usr/share/modass/overrides/rt2500-source) in net/rt2500-source ;; (/usr/share/doc/aircrack-ng/injection-patches/old/{rt2500-cvs-20050724.patch|rt2500-cvs-20051008-prismheader.patch.gz|rt2500-cvs-2005112305.patch}) in net/aircrack-ng. |
| 17:39.27 | wireless | yigal: that's the rt I am using! |
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| 17:39.39 | cilkay | Hello. I'm trying to use Virtualmin with Etch but I'm being told that mod_actions is not installed or configured. I have no such module installed. When I did "apt-cache search mod_actions", php5-cgi was returned, which I installed. It still complains of the same thing. Where do I find this Apache 2.2 module? |
| 17:39.40 | abrotman | oush: so what ? |
| 17:39.44 | valdyn | oush: you dont need to reinstall |
| 17:39.44 | wireless | norc, I'm not using rt2500, but rt73 |
| 17:39.45 | Jemt | abrotman: Hm, quite limited information unfortunately. It does not say how to do redirects - at least not in the ServerAlias section. Do you know where to look ? |
| 17:39.48 | abrotman | oush: if it's a sserver .. why did you install X at all ? |
| 17:40.01 | abrotman | Jemt: it's in there somewhere .. .that's how i learned |
| 17:40.02 | oush | ok but why has it f*kd root? |
| 17:40.04 | oush | X ??? |
| 17:40.06 | yigal | wireless: ok, then you need to blacklist rt73usb and "sudo rmmod rt73usb && modprobe rt73" |
| 17:40.08 | suwro | wireless: i had that drive too - did not manage to make tkip connection with it. - i switched to ralink original and worked like charm |
| 17:40.25 | valdyn | oush: why do you think root is 'f*kd' ? |
| 17:40.38 | wireless | yigal: I have not rt73, only rt73usb |
| 17:40.39 | yigal | the latest drivers of http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ are absolutely great |
| 17:40.51 | oush | im not sure :S |
| 17:40.54 | abrotman | yigal: there are sources in debian |
| 17:41.07 | oush | im not sure why the resoulution is fked as well :( |
| 17:41.09 | abrotman | and they're easy to install |
| 17:41.15 | suwro | yigal: id they managed to fix tkip problem? wpa + tkip |
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| 17:41.16 | yigal | abrotman: then use those sources |
| 17:41.22 | abrotman | oush: it's a server .. you don't need X anyways .. just uninstall X .. |
| 17:41.32 | oush | whats x! |
| 17:41.34 | wireless | yigal: I installed rt2x00-modules-2.6.18-4-686 which only includes rt73usb |
| 17:41.35 | yigal | suwro: you mean rt73usb has wpa now? |
| 17:41.36 | abrotman | wireless: m-a a-i rt2x00 |
| 17:41.40 | valdyn | !X |
| 17:41.46 | abrotman | !xorg |
| 17:41.46 | dpkg | somebody said xorg was X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.2. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode) |
| 17:42.01 | oush | how do i uninstall it? |
| 17:42.04 | oush | package manager? |
| 17:42.13 | xand | uhuh |
| 17:42.17 | suwro | wpasupplicant -> key_mgmt=WPA-EAP proto=WPA eap=PEAP pairwise=TKIP |
| 17:42.17 | valdyn | dpkg: forget X |
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| 17:42.25 | yigal | suwro: for a while rt73usb about 3 months ago it couldn't do wpa if used with network-manager |
| 17:42.27 | wireless | abrotman: I have rt2x00-modules-2.6.18-4-686 installed, I think it's ok for my usb gadget |
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| 17:42.38 | abrotman | wireless: okay .. so configure it now |
| 17:42.47 | abrotman | wireless: setup your SSID if needed |
| 17:42.51 | wireless | abrotman: how do I config it? |
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| 17:43.01 | suwro | iwconfig |
| 17:43.04 | wireless | abrotman: thatt's what I don't know |
| 17:43.06 | abrotman | wireless: you can use your /etc/network/interfaces file .. or some gui magic thingie |
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| 17:43.20 | suwro | tell us if you see a ra0 driver |
| 17:43.27 | wireless | abrotman: there could be issues also with my router |
| 17:43.34 | oush | iv downloaded 3 DVD's for Debian whats in DVD 2 and 3? |
| 17:43.41 | yigal | suwro: he won't because he is using rt73usb |
| 17:43.43 | abrotman | wireless: shoot the router |
| 17:43.46 | xand | mmmm lag |
| 17:43.48 | oush | im just going to reformat see how it goes will take 3 minutes top will at least sort the root out |
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| 17:43.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:44.01 | abrotman | reinstalling must be an AOL thing |
| 17:44.04 | oush | :P |
| 17:44.05 | suwro | yigal: then what's the dev name ??? |
| 17:44.08 | oush | u know about that lol |
| 17:44.14 | yigal | suwro: wlan |
| 17:44.16 | wireless | abrotman: no no, it's a very good router, but I could have configured it incorrectly |
| 17:44.26 | valdyn | dpkg: no, X is the X Window System. See <xorg> for info about the actual implementation. |
| 17:44.26 | dpkg | valdyn: okay |
| 17:44.27 | abrotman | wireless: do you know the SSID ? |
| 17:44.31 | oush | abrotman u know when i install ti again it will ask me what cores do i know |
| 17:44.34 | suwro | yigal: ty for enlightnment ;) - broadcom is eth0 :) |
| 17:44.35 | wireless | abrotman: right now I am connected via ethernet cable to the router |
| 17:44.40 | abrotman | wireless: i know that |
| 17:44.41 | oush | do i untick the desktop and only tick the server? |
| 17:44.48 | abrotman | oush: sounds like a plan |
| 17:44.52 | wireless | abrotman: the ssid I established, it's my router |
| 17:44.55 | oush | ok then will do that :) |
| 17:44.59 | abrotman | wireless: and you still can't connect ? |
| 17:45.00 | oush | cya in like 30 min! |
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| 17:45.04 | abrotman | i can't wait! |
| 17:45.09 | oush | lol |
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| 17:45.31 | wireless | abrotman: well, I don't know the commands to do it, I installed kwlan and kwifimanager but no success |
| 17:45.38 | suwro | nspluginwrapper is already the newest version. |
| 17:45.56 | suwro | well - it seems i've missed something |
| 17:45.57 | abrotman | wireless: do you get any errors trying to bring it online ? |
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| 17:46.07 | valdyn | suwro: reading the documentation? |
| 17:46.16 | abrotman | damn details! |
| 17:46.20 | yigal | wireless: i am just telling you what worked, install http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ from source and configured /etc/network/interfaces and it worked. |
| 17:46.35 | suwro | valdyn: could you point me the documentation link? |
| 17:46.41 | yigal | wireless: this is not supported by Debian so I want say its the right thing but it did work for me |
| 17:46.43 | Jemt | abrotman: Hm, I have found the Redirect directive for Apache2 but I just can't figure out how to bind it to a subdomain. Could you help me a little further ? |
| 17:46.45 | valdyn | suwro: /usr/share/doc/<packagename> |
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| 17:46.51 | wireless | yigal: what did you write in your /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:46.55 | suwro | ah -silly me |
| 17:47.00 | abrotman | Jemt: you should really be asking #apache |
| 17:47.05 | Skyrail | How many of the CDs need to be downloaded in order to get a basic Debian system up and running? |
| 17:47.12 | abrotman | !d-i Skyrail |
| 17:47.12 | dpkg | Skyrail, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:47.19 | wireless | abrotman: I suppose I must iwconfig some device, but how? |
| 17:47.22 | Jemt | abrotman: Oh yea, good idea :) |
| 17:47.23 | Jemt | Thanks |
| 17:47.37 | abrotman | wireless: i'm imagine those kde tools shold do it for you |
| 17:47.46 | wireless | abrotman: they don't |
| 17:47.58 | Skyrail | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 17:48.25 | microtux | hi everybody |
| 17:48.36 | Scurz | My crontab http://paste.debian.net/32293 is good ? |
| 17:48.50 | microtux | i have a file .idx; anyone knows how to use it |
| 17:48.52 | abrotman | wireless: i put the wireless options in my /etc/network/interfaces file .. and it works on boot |
| 17:48.53 | wireless | abrotman: if I iwlist wlan0 scanning I get my essid, so what should I do then? |
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| 17:49.22 | abrotman | microtux: file <file>.idx |
| 17:49.32 | microtux | abrotman, yes |
| 17:49.37 | wireless | yigal: send failed |
| 17:49.44 | yigal | wireless: i will try again |
| 17:49.46 | wireless | abrotman: what options? |
| 17:50.07 | abrotman | wireless: i use the wireless-essid and wireless-key in the interfaces file .. and it just works |
| 17:50.14 | wireless | yigal: still failing |
| 17:50.25 | yigal | iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 17:50.25 | yigal | pre-up ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 17:50.25 | yigal | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 essid "SSID" |
| 17:50.25 | yigal | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 key "KEY" |
| 17:50.25 | yigal | pre-up iwconfig wlan0 mode managed |
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| 17:50.37 | microtux | so ? any help? |
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| 17:50.49 | valdyn | !be a paste barbie |
| 17:50.49 | dpkg | Aww, paste is HARD! Let's go shopping, valdyn |
| 17:50.58 | yigal | sorry |
| 17:50.58 | jetscreamer | Deepa: jodo? |
| 17:50.59 | yigal | all |
| 17:51.05 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 17:51.10 | microtux | yigal, be carefull |
| 17:51.16 | yigal | i am but not with irc |
| 17:51.22 | RichiH | valdyn: now look how the same thing can be done in a constructive manner ;) |
| 17:51.23 | wireless | yigal: use pastebin |
| 17:51.24 | RichiH | !paste |
| 17:51.25 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:51.25 | microtux | yigal, ;) |
| 17:51.27 | kingsley | Is there a viable alternative to alsa for sound? |
| 17:51.29 | yigal | wireless: ok |
| 17:51.35 | aterra | hi i'm trying to get openvpn up and running on my debian box, i can connect to the vpn server, but how do i add routes from my vpn device tun0 to and from my ethernet device eth0 to allow me to connect to the other machines on my lan ? |
| 17:51.36 | jetscreamer | oss? |
| 17:51.40 | jetscreamer | !oss |
| 17:51.40 | dpkg | hmm... oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 17:51.41 | RichiH | yigal: just pick one of the sites listed above :) |
| 17:51.46 | wireless | abrotman: I am using no key, so only essid should be enough isn't it? |
| 17:52.01 | yigal | wireless: you will need a key |
| 17:52.06 | yigal | i am tired of this |
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| 17:52.20 | abrotman | wireless: yes |
| 17:52.20 | wireless | yigal: why do I need a key? |
| 17:52.29 | microtux | i have a file <file>.idx; anyone knows how to use it |
| 17:52.32 | abrotman | wireless: if your router doesn't have one .. you don't need tha toption |
| 17:52.34 | abrotman | microtux: file <file>.idx |
| 17:52.35 | wireless | yigal; I want an open net, wo other can connect |
| 17:52.39 | abrotman | microtux: it will tell you what it is |
| 17:52.58 | microtux | abrotman, ok thx |
| 17:53.10 | wireless | abrotman: is that correct? iface wlan0 inet dhcp or it's not an inet device? |
| 17:53.23 | Deepa | jetscreamer: jodo? |
| 17:53.26 | abrotman | wireless: i'd have to see the whole file |
| 17:53.27 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 17:53.35 | jetscreamer | wrong nick sorry deepa |
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| 17:53.51 | wireless | apt tell wireless about pastebin |
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| 17:56.07 | wireless | abrotman: check http://paste.debian.net/32294 for my interfaces file |
| 17:56.37 | yster | hum |
| 17:56.38 | yster | alright |
| 17:56.44 | yster | got the package built OK |
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| 17:57.19 | yster | does anyone know of any pointers regarding how I can distinguish customized debs built on the target server (as opposed to the "generic" binary version) |
| 17:57.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've just built nspluginwrapper for etch :) |
| 17:57.44 | valdyn | yster: debian packages are signed |
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| 17:58.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're a freak |
| 17:58.41 | abrotman | wireless: seems okay |
| 17:58.49 | yster | valdyn: what I meant was to do something besides rename a bunch of junk that distinguish between versions of a package that were installed via apt from a repo or installed from a newly build .deb on the target machine |
| 17:58.58 | xand | yay, time to rebuild my desktop |
| 17:59.08 | xand | ENOJAFFACAKES! |
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| 17:59.11 | wireless | abrotman: perhaps I could use a line allow-hotplug wlan0 |
| 17:59.37 | abrotman | wireless: ah .. perhaps .. mine is builtin |
| 17:59.43 | valdyn | yster: you are building packages yourself and want those to be easily recongnisable as such? |
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| 18:00.06 | wireless | abrotman: but how do I activate it? I mean, with ethernet it's ifup, what for wireless? |
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| 18:00.54 | yster | valdyn: most importantly I would like to know if there's an easy way (i.e. not pinning in apt_preferences) to prevent customized versions of my package from being blown away in an upgrade |
| 18:01.03 | chuckkh | does it make sense for /usr/local/lib64 to be a file, not a directory or a link? |
| 18:01.08 | chuckkh | on a 64-bit system? |
| 18:01.30 | valdyn | yster: pinning is the way to do that, unless you majorly bump the version number |
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| 18:01.44 | yster | valdyn: okay. no other ideas? |
| 18:01.50 | yster | guess it's not too bad |
| 18:02.08 | abrotman | wireless: it'd be the same .. |
| 18:02.20 | valdyn | yster: bumping verions numbers to make upgrade impossible is just crazy |
| 18:02.24 | abrotman | wireless: or you could unplug your LAN cable and /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 18:02.33 | valdyn | yster: pinning is clean and made for this |
| 18:02.36 | yster | valdyn: naw I mean I'd just pin it |
| 18:03.07 | chuckkh | I understood /usr/local/lib64 was to be a directory, so I deleted the file |
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| 18:03.51 | valdyn | yster: *maybe* a good idea to bump the version _slightly_ by adding yourself to the changelog ( like adding +yster to the version ) |
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| 18:05.34 | shwouchk | is it recommended to use LVM? |
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| 18:07.15 | javier_ | abrotman: I think I lost connection |
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| 18:07.36 | javier_ | abrotman: I was wireless before |
| 18:07.48 | javier_ | abrotman: I repeat, how do I activate it? I mean, with ethernet it's ifup, what for wireless? |
| 18:07.56 | abrotman | wireless: or you could unplug your LAN cable and /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 18:08.00 | wols | javier_: same |
| 18:08.00 | valdyn | shwouchk: it doesnt hurt to use lvm and maybe you will actually need its features someday |
| 18:08.36 | fantomas | Is there a way to name PPP interfaces? |
| 18:08.42 | yster | valdyn: hm, interesting; if I were to just use "+custom" on the packages built from source, is there a way I could pin that version only if it comes to exist? |
| 18:08.56 | yster | sorry about the bad sentences, I think I woke up drunk today. |
| 18:09.04 | javier_ | wols: but after ifup wlan0 I see no ipaddress assigned |
| 18:09.15 | shwouchk | valdyn: do FSs used in LVM have to stay in LVM? |
| 18:09.42 | wols | javier_: cause you didn't config your wireless corectly |
| 18:10.03 | chuckkh | on x86_64, should /usr/local/lib64 be something important? |
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| 18:10.10 | valdyn | yster: no idea, maybe pinning by version *+custom actually works as i think it does.. ( by automagically pinning any package that has a version matching that pattern ) |
| 18:10.26 | cchance | abrotman, Thank You So Much! Now I can get my hosting company off the ground! |
| 18:10.31 | javier_ | wols: hmm perhaps my router is not accepting connections correctly |
| 18:10.39 | abrotman | cchance: lovely |
| 18:10.42 | valdyn | shwouchk: how do you ever migrate a fs? |
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| 18:10.59 | wols | abrotman: #debian on sundays is scary. utterly scary |
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| 18:11.01 | valdyn | shwouchk: its an odd question really. I dont know what you want.. |
| 18:11.02 | yster | valdyn: let me flesh this out; this is for an apache module that we roll out in a standard config but periodically must set different ./configure options, etc. once the need to install a custom .deb arises, it would need to be custom-rebuilt henceforth. |
| 18:11.22 | valdyn | yster: aye |
| 18:11.26 | DawnLight | i have this annoying problem where knetworkconf doesn |
| 18:11.31 | shwouchk | valdyn: say I use ext3 in lvm... then I want to take it out of lvm |
| 18:11.34 | DawnLight | 't work right |
| 18:11.39 | yster | valdyn: if this works aw nicely as it could I could just maintain that pin forever. I'll check it out. thanks! |
| 18:12.22 | valdyn | shwouchk: its as difficult as moving an fs to a different partition is |
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| 18:13.00 | shwouchk | valdyn: I see. very. |
| 18:13.10 | valdyn | shwouchk: lvm does everything that your partition does + many things that you cant do with partitions |
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| 18:14.36 | valdyn | shwouchk: suppose you can think of lvm as a different way to have partitions |
| 18:14.39 | wizard123 | hello |
| 18:14.44 | shwouchk | stable is etch, right? |
| 18:14.45 | DawnLight | what is the file that initiates the network on bootup? |
| 18:14.47 | cchance | What would yoyu recomend i get (as in debian package if there is one) to start my company up? originaly i was going to do a Joomla, Zpanel mix but i cant really find a good signup script for zpanel so looking for alternatives |
| 18:14.48 | wizard123 | is there nay debian/kfreebsd related channel ? |
| 18:15.00 | shwouchk | valdyn: I see |
| 18:15.11 | shwouchk | whats kfreebsd? |
| 18:15.19 | wizard123 | freebsd kernel |
| 18:15.30 | shwouchk | ah |
| 18:15.40 | wizard123 | i've read that it's fully supported. good, because i don't like linux :) |
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| 18:15.52 | valdyn | wizard123: it isnt |
| 18:15.58 | wizard123 | so i wanted to ask some detailed questions about it, i couldn't find much docs |
| 18:16.02 | shwouchk | wizard123: why if I may ask? |
| 18:16.25 | wizard123 | shwouchk: because i want to try it out :) |
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| 18:18.03 | gebura | hello all |
| 18:18.16 | gebura | is there a chan consacred to debian/alpha |
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| 18:18.21 | DawnLight | can anyone tell me the location of the file that configures network on bootup? |
| 18:18.23 | gebura | i find a bug |
| 18:18.28 | shwouchk | wizard123: no.. why do you not like linux |
| 18:18.35 | Hallward | Hi, |
| 18:18.55 | Hallward | can anyone tell me whether the Freetype bytecode interpreter in Etch is turned on by default? |
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| 18:23.39 | spheard | Is there any way to recover a file I have just deleted? |
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| 18:23.58 | tarzeau | spheard: what filesystem? |
| 18:24.24 | wizard123 | shwouchk: becaus it does not fit my needs |
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| 18:24.53 | cahoot | Hallward, * Enable full bytecode interpreter instead of just the... see PDO |
| 18:24.58 | spheard | tarzeau: ext3 |
| 18:25.05 | shwouchk | spheard: if you stop using the filesystem NOW, there might be (reboot via a livecd) |
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| 18:25.30 | tarzeau | spheard: do you have a backup? |
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| 18:25.56 | spheard | no, I just wrote it |
| 18:25.58 | shwouchk | wizard123: well, thats what Im asking.. anything in particular? (just interested) |
| 18:26.01 | spheard | then deleted it |
| 18:26.04 | spheard | GRRRRRR |
| 18:26.05 | tarzeau | spheard: can you just write it again? |
| 18:26.09 | spheard | yes |
| 18:26.13 | spheard | but I dont wanna |
| 18:26.16 | tarzeau | spheard: go ahead :) |
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| 18:26.32 | wizard123 | shwouchk: nothing special, i use linux ocasionaly (even) ;) |
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| 18:26.38 | spheard | It was a lovely css menu system :-( |
| 18:26.39 | wizard123 | i just prefere bsd |
| 18:26.46 | spheard | I was lovingly crafted |
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| 18:26.57 | tarzeau | spheard: i believe you, what editor? |
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| 18:27.03 | spheard | vim |
| 18:27.05 | wizard123 | but, anyway, does somebody know something about debian/kfreebsd ? |
| 18:27.07 | ampex | spheard: this isn't a theology channel :) |
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| 18:27.13 | tarzeau | spheard: i'm sure the data is still somewhoere on the harddisk |
| 18:27.19 | tarzeau | spheard: was it larger than 4k? |
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| 18:27.28 | tarzeau | wizard123: yes? |
| 18:27.29 | spheard | tarzeau: um |
| 18:27.34 | spheard | tarzeau: maybe |
| 18:27.38 | tarzeau | wizard123: it works, just install it? |
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| 18:27.58 | wizard123 | tarzeau: i want, but i have to ask few questions first |
| 18:28.05 | shwouchk | spheard: if you dont reboot soon, no chance of recovery |
| 18:28.09 | tarzeau | spheard: i've recovered my pgp private key using lde on 20gb partition |
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| 18:28.20 | tarzeau | spheard: do you remember something of what was written you can look after? |
| 18:28.29 | wizard123 | for example: what's with freebsds system tools which are not available in gnu, pf for example |
| 18:28.38 | tarzeau | spheard: and look what shwouchk says, he's right. but remount ro would be enough |
| 18:28.44 | tarzeau | spheard: a reboot is a bit radical |
| 18:28.46 | wizard123 | or mixer or other usefull things :) |
| 18:28.55 | tarzeau | wizard123: ask them in #gnu-kbsd ? |
| 18:29.07 | wizard123 | that's what i needed :D |
| 18:29.10 | tarzeau | wizard123: you can port them if nobody else already did? |
| 18:29.17 | wizard123 | thanks tarzeau :) |
| 18:29.26 | shwouchk | tarzeau: oh yeah, the last time I was recovering files was when I used windows... :) now I use svn |
| 18:29.45 | tarzeau | shwouchk: it was ext2 (for me) |
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| 18:30.48 | shwouchk | tarzeau: :) btw, he might have problems remounting ro logs, X, etc.. |
| 18:31.01 | tarzeau | shwouchk: why? |
| 18:31.02 | shwouchk | tarzeau: :) btw, he might have problems remounting ro - logs, X, etc.. |
| 18:31.16 | tarzeau | shwouchk: i've never had problems remounting any fs ro |
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| 18:31.35 | shwouchk | dunno then |
| 18:31.57 | shwouchk | tarzeau: I must admit Im not much f an expert regarding FSs |
| 18:32.07 | spheard | tarzeau: the puter is tucked away in a date center in london |
| 18:32.21 | tarzeau | spheard: and you're where? |
| 18:32.22 | spheard | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:32.35 | spheard | tarzeau: brighton |
| 18:32.55 | spheard | I am a very very lucky boy :-) |
| 18:32.57 | dvs | spheard: and how far away is that? |
| 18:33.03 | spheard | um 100 miles |
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| 18:33.15 | spheard | actually, not even that |
| 18:33.17 | spheard | 60 miles |
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| 18:33.44 | dvs | bah, les than an hour away. ;-) |
| 18:33.46 | shwouchk | does etch still default to 2.4? |
| 18:33.52 | ampex | nope, 2.6.18 |
| 18:34.18 | shwouchk | cool |
| 18:34.20 | tarzeau | shwouchk: you even had the choice in sarge between 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 18:34.34 | tarzeau | and these days you can have 6.2 (gnu/kfreebsd) |
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| 18:34.59 | shwouchk | tarzeau: well, I havent used debian for a while.. :) |
| 18:35.15 | shwouchk | tarzeau: didnt you tell wizard that it wasnt supported? |
| 18:35.28 | tarzeau | shwouchk: no? |
| 18:35.37 | tarzeau | shwouchk: what is not supported? |
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| 18:36.23 | HardDisk_WP | does a comfortable XML editor for KDE exist? |
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| 18:36.50 | Biagi | http://biagi.miniville.fr/tra |
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| 18:39.15 | tdn | My server is writing this message again and again: ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [dfbb1dec] 'on' |
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| 18:39.28 | tdn | But the fans a functioning properly. |
| 18:39.52 | spheard | HardDisk_WP: kate |
| 18:40.19 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 18:40.24 | spheard | tdn: maybe its trying to turn on some other cooling system |
| 18:40.40 | spheard | SoulChild lets go troll in #fedora |
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| 18:40.56 | SoulChild | spheard: ^_^ |
| 18:40.58 | spheard | or even better, #solaris |
| 18:40.59 | magical_trevsky | if i have more than 26 drives, what comes after hdz? :o |
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| 18:42.03 | SoulChild | did anyone get compit fusion to work? |
| 18:42.09 | gonzaloaf | hi, how can I delete a non empty directory within ftp? |
| 18:42.09 | SoulChild | compiz* |
| 18:42.26 | ampex | magic_pinguim: nothing, I believe |
| 18:42.39 | MONO` | magical_trevsky: hdaa maybe? idk |
| 18:42.46 | grtcofee_ | I am looking for a script that'll do a scan of Apache system and tell me all the security holes, what redundant, what needs hardening within the OS. |
| 18:43.00 | grtcofee_ | I am looking for a script that'll do a scan of Apache system and tell me all the security holes, what redundant, what needs hardening within the OS. |
| 18:43.00 | spheard | grtcofee_: arent we all |
| 18:43.05 | tdn | spheard, how do I make it stop? How do I see which device it is trying to turn on? |
| 18:43.10 | wizard123 | grtcofee_: me too ^^ |
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| 18:43.30 | spheard | tdn: ur, whats the error again? |
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| 18:44.51 | assasukasse | grtcofee_: what about nessus |
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| 18:46.14 | grtcofee_ | nessus is the answer to network vul scanner, I am looking for OS vuln scanner |
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| 18:46.45 | assasukasse | grtcofee_: u are right but is the first thing that pop up in my mind |
| 18:47.28 | magical_trevsky | grtcofee_, metasploit? |
| 18:47.57 | grtcofee_ | metasploit is not a OS vuln scanner, its an exploit tool |
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| 18:48.30 | SoulChild | is there a programm that autoconfigures xorg? |
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| 18:48.44 | dvs | !drxx SoulChild |
| 18:48.44 | dpkg | SoulChild: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 18:49.24 | peter_ | what's the best way to set up an email alert when the upstream version of one of my packages changes? |
| 18:49.24 | Greyscale | I have a machine connected to my network. I can verify that the connection to the router is good |
| 18:49.27 | SoulChild | dvs: "auto configure" ? |
| 18:49.40 | Greyscale | how can I verify that the machine can talk to the network and figure out why it can't pick up an IP |
| 18:49.58 | Greyscale | this machine was working flawlessly for about 3 months until I moved it yesterday |
| 18:50.13 | dvs | SoulChild: "run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root" |
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| 18:51.32 | shwouchk | help please! Im installing debian via debootstrap and the following: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html but some packages are missing... (no base-config for instance) what can I do? |
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| 18:52.13 | tzfardea | Hey, when I run mplayer and bzflag I get the error "Segmentation fault", how can I fix that? |
| 18:52.30 | astronouth7303 | when I'm writing my debian control file, is it ok to require any version of a package but then recommend a newer version? |
| 18:52.31 | SNow | hello, I recently started to use mod_cache, how could now I check is it working, is it working properly, and how many of it's size it's caching? I know this is not #debian question, but #apache seems to be ignorant |
| 18:52.38 | eisen | shwouchk: I don't remember using base-config on my last bootstrap |
| 18:52.52 | eisen | I did it all manually (it's easy) |
| 18:53.18 | shwouchk | eisen: really? the page there is talking as if its there |
| 18:53.25 | eisen | for the timezone you just place a symlink |
| 18:53.49 | shwouchk | eisen: yes, what else do I do? and where do I place it? |
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| 18:54.26 | astronouth7303 | SNow: does it add headers? |
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| 18:54.54 | eisen | shwouchk: symlink yours from /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/localtime |
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| 18:55.13 | SNow | astronouth7303: yeah |
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| 18:55.24 | astronouth7303 | seems like it's working, then |
| 18:55.37 | Greyscale | <SNow> hello, I recently started to use mod_cache, how could now I check is it working, is it working properly, and how many of it's size it's caching? I know this is not #debian question, but #apache seems to be ignorant |
| 18:55.37 | astronouth7303 | unless the headers say otherwise |
| 18:55.40 | Greyscale | fork |
| 18:55.50 | Greyscale | I have a machine connected to my network. I can verify that the connection to the router is good. how can I verify that the machine can talk to the network and figure out why it can't pick up an IP. this machine was working flawlessly for about 3 months until I moved it yesterday |
| 18:56.27 | shwouchk | eisen: nothing of the sort there |
| 18:56.33 | shwouchk | eisen: nm |
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| 18:56.44 | tzfardea | Hey, when I run mplayer and bzflag I get the error "Segmentation fault", how can I fix that? |
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| 18:57.13 | misreckoning | what do I need to install to make my microphone work? |
| 18:57.34 | Greyscale | nothing, usually |
| 18:57.37 | Greyscale | go to volume controls |
| 18:57.41 | Greyscale | and turn on the mic. |
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| 18:58.45 | misreckoning | Greyscale: ok lets hope it is so easy :) |
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| 19:00.43 | shwouchk | what groups should I put my user in? |
| 19:00.59 | valdyn | shwouchk: what does your user need to access? |
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| 19:01.19 | shwouchk | valdyn: only user on a home server |
| 19:01.29 | shwouchk | nothing graphical, admining |
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| 19:01.49 | valdyn | shwouchk: sound: 'audio', burning cds: 'cdrom' |
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| 19:02.26 | valdyn | shwouchk: i recommend 'adm' too so you need root for less logfiles.. |
| 19:02.52 | shwouchk | valdyn: cool |
| 19:02.58 | shwouchk | valdyn: should I add him to root? |
| 19:03.01 | \amethyst | shwouchk: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo |
| 19:03.06 | valdyn | shwouchk: no |
| 19:03.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: hehe look what i found http://mailbox.istheshit.net/ |
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| 19:03.39 | valdyn | shwouchk: just 'adduser shwouchk audio cdrom adm' |
| 19:03.45 | shwouchk | valdyn: no cdrom drive, so no 'cdrom'... no audio use atm either so no 'audio'... guess its only adm and users |
| 19:04.08 | \amethyst | shwouchk: what about floppy, modems, tape, scanner... ? |
| 19:04.13 | valdyn | shwouchk: i know nothing about a 'users' group, never needed that one |
| 19:05.00 | shwouchk | \amethyst: none... modem maybe later if I decide to pay for the hsf drivers |
| 19:05.09 | shwouchk | valdyn: oh, then adm |
| 19:05.26 | shwouchk | \amethyst: btw, that link is for desktop and Im installing a server |
| 19:05.30 | valdyn | shwouchk: there's quite a few more useful groups, but better if you as again when you do not have permissions to do something you think you should have permissions for |
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| 19:06.15 | alexIdoia | hi I have just built my own machine and install a debian system. I got most of everything working but I have a few question. |
| 19:06.23 | valdyn | shwouchk: most of these are for desktop systems though |
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| 19:06.46 | shwouchk | I did this: # useradd -b /home/kosta -d /home/kosta -s /bin/bash -m -g adm kosta |
| 19:06.52 | shwouchk | and it complains |
| 19:06.57 | shwouchk | whats wrong? |
| 19:06.58 | alexIdoia | if when doing lspci I have some 'unknown decive' that means that my system does not recognise them ? That I am missing drivers ? What can I do ? |
| 19:06.59 | valdyn | shwouchk: use what i said |
| 19:07.13 | valdyn | shwouchk: 'adduser shwouchk group1 group2 |
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| 19:07.18 | \amethyst | alexIdoia: it means you have some hardware that isn't in your PCI IDs database |
| 19:07.28 | valdyn | shwouchk: useradd is low level, its not for normal use |
| 19:07.28 | shwouchk | valdyn: kk |
| 19:07.32 | dvs | alexIdoia: update-pciids |
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| 19:07.39 | valdyn | alexIdoia: no |
| 19:07.40 | alexIdoia | that is it ! |
| 19:07.44 | alexIdoia | no ? |
| 19:08.00 | alexIdoia | valdyn: no to dvs ? |
| 19:08.16 | shwouchk | valdyn: adduser: The user `kosta' does not exist. |
| 19:08.24 | valdyn | alexIdoia: yes to what dvs sais, no to any relation to the kernel or device drivers |
| 19:08.25 | Ranpha1 | he guys my xorg shoots to more then 50% with only xchat and thre terminal open is this normal (happens when i moued a smb on desktop and open nautilus) |
| 19:08.35 | alexIdoia | valdyn: ok |
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| 19:08.39 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all! |
| 19:08.45 | valdyn | shwouchk: does it exist? |
| 19:09.09 | shwouchk | valdyn: of course not.. I want to create it |
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| 19:09.40 | valdyn | shwouchk: 'adduser <name>' is to add a user, 'adduser <name> <group1>' is to add an existing user to an existing group |
| 19:09.48 | jdhore | I'm currently running testing, can i use packages from sid safely if there's something i want? |
| 19:09.59 | \amethyst | shwouchk: btw, I would recommend not making adm the user's default group. use -G adm instead of -g |
| 19:10.22 | valdyn | he shouldnt use useradd at all.. |
| 19:10.56 | shwouchk | \amethyst: why? |
| 19:11.13 | shwouchk | \amethyst: for created files? |
| 19:11.29 | \amethyst | shwouchk: Because that will mean the user's files are owned by group adm, which isn't really useful or necessary |
| 19:12.03 | \amethyst | shwouchk: usually you'll have a user private group as the default login group, and the other stuff in the supplemental groups |
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| 19:12.10 | Overburn | hi guys... |
| 19:12.15 | Overburn | i just wanted to ask you... |
| 19:12.19 | shwouchk | \amethyst: aah, cool |
| 19:12.24 | Overburn | where can i find linux drivers for asus p5ld2 se ? :) |
| 19:12.29 | \amethyst | shwouchk: sometimes you'll see "users" as the default login group, on systems without user private groups |
| 19:12.34 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 19:12.34 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 19:12.36 | H2OyJaBoN | is there k3bsetup command into some packages ? |
| 19:12.38 | valdyn | Overburn: ^^ |
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| 19:12.42 | misreckoning | Greyscale: it is a little strange but after I turn on the mike, I can hear it on speakers! and if I lover that, then it doesn't work in ekiga :P |
| 19:12.55 | Ranpha1 | is there a bug in nautilus which causes xorg to sjy rocket to high cpu numbers? |
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| 19:12.58 | valdyn | H2OyJaBoN: why would there be? |
| 19:13.05 | magic_pinguim | ampex i'm sorry?! |
| 19:13.11 | valdyn | H2OyJaBoN: when k3b is complitely configurable within itself? |
| 19:13.27 | magic_pinguim | ampex you talking about compiz right? |
| 19:13.51 | valdyn | misreckoning: you dont want to low that, you want to disable capture |
| 19:13.55 | valdyn | misreckoning: you dont want to lower that, you want to disable capture |
| 19:14.18 | magic_pinguim | ampex no i dont ... i change distro to desktop in this one |
| 19:14.19 | H2OyJaBoN | valdyn, because i have this problem when i try to execute k3b starts it initializin page and eclipse =S ... and k3b never start... |
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| 19:14.22 | inetd_ | with gnome-panel is it possible only just start the pager ? |
| 19:14.22 | H2OyJaBoN | some advice? |
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| 19:14.46 | valdyn | H2OyJaBoN: on which debian release? |
| 19:14.58 | misreckoning | valdyn: I've disabled it and I can still hear it on speakers and I can't record a sound :P |
| 19:15.09 | H2OyJaBoN | valdyn, 4.0 |
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| 19:15.18 | valdyn | misreckoning: its obviously not disabled. |
| 19:15.32 | misreckoning | valdyn: do you want a screenshot :) |
| 19:15.41 | valdyn | misreckoning: sure |
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| 19:16.30 | misreckoning | valdyn: ok ... let me host it ... |
| 19:16.41 | valdyn | H2OyJaBoN: should be a directory in ~/.kde containing k3b configuration, that you can delete ( or ~/.k3b ) |
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| 19:17.40 | valdyn | H2OyJaBoN: ~/.kde/share/config/ looks like a candidate |
| 19:18.13 | dasunt | Can debian boot off an LVM partition? |
| 19:18.15 | dasunt | With grub/lilo? |
| 19:18.19 | H2OyJaBoN | valdyn, ok.. i'll try |
| 19:18.24 | misreckoning | valdyn: http://89.216.199.54/muted.png |
| 19:18.28 | xLoGic | dasunt: yes |
| 19:18.35 | dasunt | xLoGic: D'oh! |
| 19:18.43 | dasunt | Then I broke this install, somehow. :( |
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| 19:19.07 | xLoGic | dasunt: why? what do you get when booting? |
| 19:19.15 | dasunt | I get no inittab found. :( |
| 19:19.27 | Overburn | ok... guyz... how can i do a net install of debian if it doesn't connect to the internet? i mean... the networking hardware is in place, but i think it lacks the support :( |
| 19:19.55 | valdyn | misreckoning: with that setting its still going thru your speakers? |
| 19:20.08 | dvs | Overburn: you can do a minimal install with the netinstall CD |
| 19:20.09 | misreckoning | valdyn: yes |
| 19:20.18 | Greyscale | Overburn, which is about 160M |
| 19:20.28 | misreckoning | valdyn: it stops only if I go to Playback->Microphone |
| 19:20.29 | xLoGic | dasunt: then debian is actually booting, the root partition is probably not set up correctly |
| 19:20.41 | dasunt | Yep, looking now. |
| 19:20.46 | misreckoning | valdyn: and lower it there |
| 19:20.50 | tzfardea | Hey, when I run mplayer and bzflag I get the error "Segmentation fault", how can I fix that? |
| 19:20.57 | dasunt | I have a /boot and a LVM with / and other related partitions. |
| 19:21.03 | misreckoning | valdyn: then, even I can hear it on speakers, I can't record :/ |
| 19:21.10 | valdyn | misreckoning: this capture you pasted might aswell refer to your line in, not the mic |
| 19:21.20 | xLoGic | dasunt: you would need to boot off a live cd and mount the partition in there |
| 19:21.26 | dasunt | Y额p. |
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| 19:21.41 | misreckoning | valdyn: dunno, I don't find that configurable |
| 19:21.44 | xLoGic | dasunt: see if the /etc/fstab has the correct partitions for root and such |
| 19:21.50 | dasunt | It may be something trivial. |
| 19:21.58 | valdyn | misreckoning: edit->properties should list disabled switches |
| 19:22.11 | xLoGic | dasunt. probably is. |
| 19:22.21 | misreckoning | valdyn: ok what about those switches? |
| 19:22.31 | misreckoning | valdyn: what do they mean |
| 19:22.49 | dacs | if i am running etch , should i use the sid backports or the new etch backports |
| 19:22.53 | xLoGic | off to get some lunch. brb |
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| 19:23.12 | misreckoning | help is outdated ... |
| 19:23.15 | dasunt | Interesting, never did the ssh install for debian. |
| 19:23.21 | valdyn | misreckoning: look at them, names are fairly descriptive ( though often not descriptive enough ), I dont know what is what in your system just by seeing that single screenshot |
| 19:23.32 | aztec105 | hello all I am trying to run a make on ndiswrapper and I keep getting an error missin or canit find foo/pcmcia/build |
| 19:23.44 | dasunt | Does the LVM have to be marked as bootable? |
| 19:23.47 | misreckoning | ah you mean the Input Source? well it is selected to Mic ... |
| 19:23.50 | tarzeau | can i download this video somehow? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dc1u_sauerbraten-spring-edition |
| 19:24.10 | valdyn | dasunt: you cant boot from lvm |
| 19:24.15 | ivorw | Hi there, I'm trying to get a USB memory stick working. |
| 19:24.39 | ivorw | Was mounting OK on sarge, but not since I've upgraded to etch |
| 19:24.44 | misreckoning | valdyn: http://89.216.199.54/options.png |
| 19:24.46 | dacs | aztec105: i assume you are trying to use a pcmcia card |
| 19:24.54 | aztec105 | dacs: yes |
| 19:24.55 | shwouchk | why are all the kernels labled as 'transition package's? |
| 19:25.10 | wols | shwouchk: you are mistaken |
| 19:25.14 | dacs | aztec105: name/model/chipset |
| 19:25.15 | valdyn | shwouchk: not all, which are? |
| 19:25.24 | misreckoning | and there is http://89.216.199.54/switches.png |
| 19:25.24 | shwouchk | kernel-image-2.6-686 - Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 - transition package |
| 19:25.34 | shwouchk | all stuff which is kernel-image |
| 19:25.44 | valdyn | misreckoning: nothing to see there, leave it as it is |
| 19:25.49 | wols | shwouchk: cause the proper name is linux-image |
| 19:26.12 | alexIdoia | where can I get all the information concerning the temperature of my cpu and the control of its fan ? |
| 19:26.14 | shwouchk | wols: thanks |
| 19:26.15 | aztec105 | dacs: inexq mr012i chipset rtl8180 |
| 19:26.23 | dasunt | valdyn: What do I need to boot from? |
| 19:26.25 | shwouchk | wols: I see the guide Im reading is really outdated |
| 19:26.31 | wols | ivorw: what device is it assigned? /dev/sdX? |
| 19:26.35 | \amethyst | alexIdoia: sensors |
| 19:26.39 | dacs | wols: i have a question about backports , i need help with |
| 19:26.50 | aztec105 | dacs: only reason I am running a make is I seem to be missing ndiswrapper.ko |
| 19:26.51 | valdyn | dasunt: a common partition ( or whatever else grub supports ) |
| 19:26.54 | wols | dacs: ask the whole channel |
| 19:27.03 | dasunt | valdyn: So /boot being a common partition, or? |
| 19:27.10 | wols | valdyn: s/grub/BIOS/ |
| 19:27.14 | alexIdoia | \amethyst: thank |
| 19:27.19 | shwouchk | whats the difference between linux-image-2.6-vserver-686 and the plain 2.6-686? |
| 19:27.21 | dacs | wols: i did , no one answr me |
| 19:27.23 | dacs | :( |
| 19:27.32 | valdyn | wols: bios knows about partitions? |
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| 19:27.45 | ivorw | wols: I tried /dev/sda1 thru /dev/sdg1, no joy |
| 19:27.46 | H2OyJaBoN | valdyn, the directory doesnot exist |
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| 19:27.48 | valdyn | dasunt: yea, wherever your kernel and initrd are |
| 19:27.58 | dacs | aztec105: that the first time i hear about this card |
| 19:28.04 | aztec105 | wols_: that dell latitude a300st I was working on the other night I finally had success getting etch installed with kernel version 2.6.18-4-486 |
| 19:28.06 | wols | valdyn: it knows about disks. which are necessary to get grub running |
| 19:28.12 | valdyn | wols: /nod |
| 19:28.12 | dacs | aztec105: what error are you getting |
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| 19:28.22 | aztec105 | will have it verbatim in a few moments |
| 19:28.27 | misreckoning | valdyn: now I will try from console with alsamixer ... |
| 19:28.32 | dasunt | *looks then* |
| 19:28.37 | ivorw | I just get "mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device" for each one |
| 19:28.53 | wols | ivorw: check dmesg what your usb device uses for a device node |
| 19:28.53 | valdyn | misreckoning: maybe it brings better descriptions, functionality shouldnt be different |
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| 19:29.22 | wols | dacs: what is the difference between an etch backport and a sid backport? |
| 19:29.23 | valdyn | shwouchk: read the package description |
| 19:29.25 | misreckoning | valdyn: I think that you are wrong and that I should turn on the capture and turn off the playback |
| 19:29.31 | \amethyst | shwouchk: the -vserver- one has support for http://linux-vserver.org/ |
| 19:29.38 | misreckoning | valdyn: and that the problem is with capture ;P |
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| 19:29.48 | shwouchk | \amethyst: thanks |
| 19:29.48 | valdyn | misreckoning: try it.. |
| 19:29.55 | shwouchk | valdyn: nothing in the description |
| 19:30.07 | valdyn | shwouchk: 'apt-cache show linux-image-2.6-vserver-686' |
| 19:30.11 | misreckoning | valdyn: well the problem I said ... it isn't working :) |
| 19:30.32 | dacs | wols: yes, i am looking for the latest ver for kismet. |
| 19:30.40 | \amethyst | shwouchk: util-vserver is the user-side part of the vserver stuff |
| 19:30.46 | wols | dacs: "yes" doesn't answer my question |
| 19:31.18 | dacs | wols: ok, can i use sid backport for etch |
| 19:31.38 | dacs | how can i see what packages listed in backport |
| 19:31.38 | wols | dacs: sure, why not? |
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| 19:31.48 | wols | !backports |
| 19:31.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
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| 19:32.16 | aztec105 | dacs: cant't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-486/build; give the path to kernel build directory with KBUILD=<path> argument to make |
| 19:32.28 | ivorw | wols, dmesg indicates a problem. What tools can I use to paste the output on this channel? |
| 19:32.38 | wols | !paste |
| 19:32.39 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 19:32.48 | valdyn | aztec105: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 19:34.57 | dacs | aztec105: try to apt-get install KBUILD |
| 19:35.07 | dacs | aztec105: then re make it |
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| 19:35.43 | ivorw | dmesg output: http://paste.debian.net/32299 |
| 19:35.49 | aztec105 | valdyn: TY |
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| 19:36.28 | valdyn | iverw: hub.c: Maybe the USB cable is bad? Is it? |
| 19:36.34 | aztec105 | dacs: TY 2 |
| 19:37.16 | valdyn | ivorw: the last line means ( assuming you have udev installed ) that you dont have a suitable driver installed |
| 19:37.53 | shwouchk | is it recommended to use 'discover' or is it obsoleted by udev? |
| 19:38.34 | valdyn | shwouchk: its bascally only used for setting up X |
| 19:39.05 | shwouchk | valdyn: really? the guide seemed to indicate it will autoload modules |
| 19:39.18 | valdyn | shwouchk: udev does that better |
| 19:39.31 | shwouchk | valdyn: yeah, thats what i assumed |
| 19:40.02 | valdyn | actually udev is still a little controverse.. but you're safer to go with udev |
| 19:40.14 | ivorw | valdyn, wols and others. Thanks for your help and pointers. Working anround the problem using another machine. |
| 19:40.29 | dacs | wols: question: should i just add deb-src to my sources.list , based on what dpkg says |
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| 19:41.22 | shwouchk | valdyn: what do you mean by controverse? |
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| 19:41.29 | dacs | aztec105: let me know if you got it to work |
| 19:41.31 | aztec105 | ah how sweet it is wireless now working :) |
| 19:42.16 | shwouchk | how do I add init.d scripts to runlevels? |
| 19:42.19 | dacs | aztec105: so the problem was the KBUILd |
| 19:42.39 | \amethyst | shwouchk: some people don't like that the flow is now "hardware discovery causes module loading, creation of devices, etc", rather than the old "accessing a device causes the module to be loaded, which probes for the hardware" model |
| 19:42.42 | valdyn | shwouchk: linux ( and therefore debian ) components are integrated based on consensus among developers |
| 19:42.46 | aztec105 | dacs: yes it is now working thanks to you and valdyn for thee assist... needed kbuild and headers |
| 19:43.06 | dacs | nice nice |
| 19:43.35 | Azar | news: amd to retire single core (Athlon, Sempron) and 64 X2 3800 and 3600. major price cuts on core 2 duo. |
| 19:43.49 | valdyn | shwouchk: hence there can be controversies, and there always are some for 'new' things |
| 19:43.50 | shwouchk | \amethyst: oh.. I actually like the second model better.. had some bad experiance with udev autoloading an unwanted module at boot |
| 19:43.54 | dacs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.58 | dvs | who's news? ;-) |
| 19:44.21 | dacs | should i just add deb-scr by it self to the souces.list |
| 19:44.24 | Azar | dvs: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7960 |
| 19:44.48 | \amethyst | shwouchk: you can blacklist hardware with udev, but you have to specifically do that. With the old approach it was enough to just not use the hardware :) |
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| 19:44.55 | shwouchk | valdyn: yeah, well - I meant what the controversy is about |
| 19:45.15 | shwouchk | \amethyst: :) I did blacklist it eventually |
| 19:45.26 | shwouchk | how do I add init.d scripts to runlevels? |
| 19:45.38 | valdyn | shwouchk: custom scripts? |
| 19:45.42 | shwouchk | no |
| 19:45.48 | shwouchk | valdyn: standard |
| 19:45.55 | valdyn | shwouchk: debian scripts? |
| 19:46.05 | valdyn | shwouchk: those are already added.. |
| 19:46.06 | ampex | dvs: DDR3 offers no performance advantage currently |
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| 19:46.24 | valdyn | shwouchk: you dont want to fuck with debian init stuff, its seriously messy |
| 19:46.25 | dacs | can someone please look at my sources.list in #flood |
| 19:46.28 | dvs | ampex: that's because it's high latency currently |
| 19:46.33 | shwouchk | valdyn: well Im not sure wether sshd was added cause some people might not want it to start automatically |
| 19:46.37 | jelly-home | shwouchk: update-rc.d, or symlink them manually if you know what you're doing |
| 19:46.42 | Azar | dvs: until the flash storage comes out, I find it useless to jump at the latest cpu/memory |
| 19:46.46 | valdyn | shwouchk: it was added if the package was installed |
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| 19:47.01 | shwouchk | jelly-home: I like update-rc.d, thanks |
| 19:47.04 | ampex | dvs: and Conroe isn't very sensitive to memory bandwidth or latency |
| 19:47.17 | shwouchk | valdyn: I see |
| 19:47.35 | ampex | dvs: it's just Intel pushing us to purchase new hardware |
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| 19:48.15 | valdyn | jelly-home: umm |
| 19:48.26 | valdyn | jelly-home: that's done. |
| 19:48.27 | shwouchk | jelly-home: you can do that |
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| 19:48.38 | jelly-home | orly |
| 19:49.01 | valdyn | jelly-home: read the part after ### BEGIN INIT INFO in a random init script |
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| 19:49.33 | alexIdoia | I have three hard disk in my machine, on one I have / on another I have /home and the last is for achiving, how can I do to have this last one, showing up on my desktop (gnome) as a drive icon ? so far it is mounted in a dir /archives and I have created a link to my desktop |
| 19:50.02 | alexIdoia | but when I go to "Places>computer I only see the filesystem and the CD-RW drive is that normal ? |
| 19:50.10 | jelly-home | valdyn: ah. Required-Start:? |
| 19:50.41 | jelly-home | valdyn: so, invoke-rc.d foo start would start the dependencies for me? |
| 19:50.48 | chicalinux | como me conecto al XDMCP? |
| 19:50.51 | valdyn | jelly-home: no idea |
| 19:50.55 | chicalinux | por vnc? |
| 19:51.00 | alexIdoia | I guess I would like my drive to appears along with my filesystem and my CD drive as another disk |
| 19:51.10 | \amethyst | jelly-home: only if you're using upstart or whatever |
| 19:51.10 | valdyn | jelly-home: 'declaring' is there, i know nothing else |
| 19:51.12 | shwouchk | jelly-home: it should |
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| 19:51.43 | shwouchk | jelly-home: but dont you start scripts in debian as well as '/etc/init.d/script start'? |
| 19:51.48 | chicalinux | ho do i conne ct to XDMCP? |
| 19:51.55 | jelly-home | valdyn: eh, I _did_ ask about declaring :-| |
| 19:52.11 | \amethyst | jelly-home: The dependency information is AFAIK completely ignored by sysv init |
| 19:52.19 | alexIdoia | am I not being clear ? |
| 19:52.30 | rohan | how do i make debian and ubuntu coexist peacefully for the /boot ? i have a separate /boot partition. each one wants complete control of /boot , and add the other in "Other operating systems" section. is there any way i can get both to update menu.lst when kernels are updated ? |
| 19:52.33 | jelly-home | \amethyst: oh, so I'd need to use a replacement? |
| 19:52.55 | valdyn | jelly-home: you can use upstart, at your own risk |
| 19:53.04 | \amethyst | jelly-home: Yeah, that information is there for the new init replacements... but not all packages have it yet |
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| 19:53.16 | alexIdoia | I guess not |
| 19:54.06 | valdyn | alexIdoia: no idea how this works. removing the 'auto' and adding a 'user' in /etc/fstab should accomplish it |
| 19:54.15 | \amethyst | alexIdoia: maybe #gnome might know |
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| 19:54.21 | \amethyst | maybe not |
| 19:54.26 | alexIdoia | sure |
| 19:55.40 | jelly-home | valdyn: ah, thanks. That means my wrapper init scripts that (re)start misc. parts of mta system can't be replaced yet. |
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| 19:56.20 | jelly-home | \amethyst: is this going to be a RC requirement for lenny? |
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| 20:01.58 | aztec105 | for al you people who have helped me over the last week with getting this dell latitude a300st and getting etch up and running on it THANKS. This Channel Rocks. It re-affirms my belief there are still helpfull channels in IRC :) |
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| 20:03.07 | kenji | guys, my mom use a compaq presario with 64ram, 4gb of hd and 233mhz, she have office97, Outlook Express, skype and amsn, but she should use open source, Im thinking in abiword and gnumeric for example but I don't know if xfce, debian etch, firefox, thunderbird can defeat the win98 office97 outlook express |
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| 20:04.16 | assasukasse | kenji: may i suggest you to use elive? |
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| 20:04.39 | fsteves_ | woot got my Debian live with a bootsplash now |
| 20:04.58 | xLoGic | fsteves: what bootsplash did you use? |
| 20:05.03 | fsteves_ | and native unionfs and squashfs support |
| 20:05.05 | kenji | assasukasse elive its a linux distro? |
| 20:05.11 | assasukasse | kenji: yes |
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| 20:05.20 | fsteves_ | bootsplash.org patch set |
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| 20:05.28 | assasukasse | elive is debian with enlightenment |
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| 20:05.51 | \amethyst | enlightenment? on a 64 MB machine? |
| 20:05.52 | odla | !compiz |
| 20:05.52 | dpkg | compiz is, like, a window and composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. It runs on Xgl and AIGLX. It is now in Debian and can run when AIGLX and composite are enabled for your X server.. Check http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz |
| 20:05.54 | odla | oops sorry |
| 20:06.00 | xLoGic | fsteves: nice. what kernel are you running? i had trouble with the patches a few months back. |
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| 20:06.08 | assasukasse | \amethyst: yes, better than xfce |
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| 20:06.11 | assasukasse | uses less ram |
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| 20:06.30 | \amethyst | I'd go with icewm or fvwm2 |
| 20:06.33 | fsteves_ | 2.6.21 |
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| 20:06.42 | wols | assasukasse: you're a very funny guy |
| 20:06.43 | assasukasse | \amethyst: i agree. but most ppl won't like |
| 20:06.47 | xLoGic | ah cool they have a patch for 2.6.21 now.. |
| 20:06.48 | wols | 233MHz CPU and elive.... |
| 20:06.49 | assasukasse | wols: why |
| 20:06.58 | assasukasse | ah |
| 20:06.59 | xLoGic | i'll give it a shot . thanks |
| 20:07.03 | assasukasse | wols: i didn't notice it! |
| 20:07.13 | assasukasse | then no.. |
| 20:07.16 | wols | assasukasse: the pay attention next time. the 64MB ram too |
| 20:07.28 | assasukasse | wols: i am using elive on 64meg |
| 20:07.29 | assasukasse | works perfectly |
| 20:07.46 | fsteves_ | xLoGic: yes. Remember initrd uses initramfs format now, so you will need to patch the bootsplash hooks for update-initrd |
| 20:07.48 | wols | assasukasse: so you'renot using debian? |
| 20:08.13 | assasukasse | wols: i am using, ubuntu, debian, and elive, and puppylinux :D at the same time on different machines |
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| 20:08.46 | xLoGic | fsteves_: and how would one patch the bootsplash hooks for update-initrd? |
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| 20:08.57 | assasukasse | i am using puppylinux on a 98meg 300mhz celeron and is SWIFT...but i suppose 64 meg are too little |
| 20:08.58 | fsteves_ | xLoGic: I also patched the kernel with a gentoo patch for unionfs and some other patch set for squashfs |
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| 20:09.07 | fsteves_ | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=421934 |
| 20:09.24 | xLoGic | wonderful. |
| 20:10.11 | assasukasse | wols: beside puppy, everything else i consider debian...not pure, but still debian |
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| 20:10.50 | wols | assasukasse: which means you are vrey very wrong |
| 20:10.57 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 20:11.11 | xLoGic | fsteves_: i have no use for those FS's but sounds cool. |
| 20:11.12 | assasukasse | wols: u forgot imho :D |
| 20:11.20 | wols | assasukasse: no |
| 20:11.26 | wols | !based on debian |
| 20:11.27 | dpkg | Your distribution uses <apt>, but is not officialy Debian maintained (see <why Debian>), nor do we manage all aspects of it. (see <Debian policy>) Therefore, we are not obligated to help you (see <based on Debian caveats>). Please visit the proper IRC channel for your distribution. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> to name a few. |
| 20:11.54 | ribnitz | I bulit a kernel with make-kpkg, but my mouse (logitech, usb) does not work (at all); what modules could I be missing? |
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| 20:12.11 | xembrx | puppy is pretty cool |
| 20:12.32 | xLoGic | fsteves_: and thanks for the link, i see what they mean.. that wasn't the error i was getting before though. i think i didn't know how to apply kernel patches back then.. |
| 20:12.34 | ribnitz | (Oh, and yes, its debian sid). |
| 20:12.37 | assasukasse | wols: nobody is obliged to help if not willing, i am here since i know little and i use debian too, most of the problems on ubuntu and on elive are the same i find in debian. if we have to slice the hair then u are right, but this is not helping debian in my humble opinion. |
| 20:12.46 | jelly-home | ribnitz: do you have a /dev/input directory? |
| 20:12.58 | wols | assasukasse: your pretty much alone in your opinion |
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| 20:13.19 | wols | assasukasse: and pretty much no regular will help you with ubuntu problems or elive problems, etc |
| 20:13.28 | jelly-home | assasukasse: suggestions given for Debian might not be optimal for Ubuntu or others. |
| 20:13.29 | assasukasse | wols: im sorry of that, i tought the "enemy" to defeat was novell and microsoft, not other linux users. |
| 20:13.34 | ribnitz | jelly-home: yep. contains event0..3, and mice |
| 20:13.43 | wols | assasukasse: we don't have enemies. we don't care about novell |
| 20:13.48 | ribnitz | jelly-home: as well as a by-path dir |
| 20:13.57 | aztec105 | assasukasse: running etch on pii300 with 96 mb ram :) |
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| 20:14.33 | assasukasse | wols: personally i do have enemies, and for every ppl that switch to linux, whatever distro he chooses, from xp, i am happy. |
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| 20:15.02 | wols | assasukasse: and for whatever distro that person uses: let that distro support them. this is the support channel for debian only |
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| 20:15.54 | assasukasse | wols: if the ppl come here anyway, this is because this channel is the most useful ever..you should be proud of that, not kick user out..but this is just me.. |
| 20:15.54 | ribnitz | assasukasse: this channel is primarily to help with debian; we do not know that much about other distros... |
| 20:16.30 | jelly-home | ribnitz: that's good. Do you have CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV, CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE, CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2 set? |
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| 20:16.50 | abrotman | assasukasse: we have channel guidelines |
| 20:16.50 | deejoe | dpkg, tell me about sysfs |
| 20:16.56 | abrotman | !tell deejoe about selftell |
| 20:16.59 | jelly-home | ribnitz: (you probably have the first, seeing as you have /dev/input/mice) |
| 20:17.55 | ribnitz | jelly-home: where would I see that? |
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| 20:18.30 | jelly-home | ribnitz: .config, where your kernel tree is, or /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 20:18.31 | shwouchk | HOLY SHIT |
| 20:18.35 | shwouchk | I made it! |
| 20:18.53 | shwouchk | I remotely reinstalled debian over ubuntu! |
| 20:18.54 | assasukasse | abrotman: i think i have started a flame i was unwilling to. i am a debian etch user, as well as an ubuntu and puppy and elive, i don't want to break any channel rule, but i don't follow what i consider not correct. so i will not talk about other distro, but my opinion is still mine. |
| 20:19.07 | jelly-home | !win shwouchk |
| 20:19.07 | dpkg | Congratulations, shwouchk! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland! |
| 20:19.09 | abrotman | assasukasse: you can express that opinion in ##linux :) |
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| 20:19.24 | lontra | abrotman: i'm in augusta |
| 20:19.26 | stoned | this |
| 20:19.27 | stoned | heat |
| 20:19.31 | abrotman | i noticed |
| 20:19.34 | stoned | unbearable |
| 20:19.39 | dasunt | Damnit. |
| 20:19.44 | dasunt | Oppsie, sorrie. |
| 20:19.50 | dasunt | *peers at this* |
| 20:19.51 | stoned | must...find...cooling |
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| 20:19.56 | jelly-home | !tell stoned -about enter |
| 20:19.59 | jelly-home | :-> |
| 20:20.07 | stoned | !tell jelly-home -about stoned |
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| 20:20.15 | ribnitz | jelly-home: INPUT_MOUSE; INPUT_MOUSE_PS2 are set, what was the third? |
| 20:20.32 | abrotman | better than INPUT_MOOSE |
| 20:20.34 | lontra | abrotman: i've been here for 2 weeks then i'm back to minnesota |
| 20:20.36 | assasukasse | abrotman: is not needed really, i am here because i like debian and i use it, and because this channel is very helpful. if users on this channel don't agree with my opinions i accept, it is freedom we all need. :) |
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| 20:20.44 | assasukasse | end of opinions :D |
| 20:20.45 | abrotman | uhm ook |
| 20:20.46 | dasunt | I'm getting a "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..." "Done." "Done." "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..." "Done." INIT: version 2.86 booting" "INIT: No inittab file found" |
| 20:20.55 | dasunt | Then a prompt to enter the runlevel. |
| 20:21.05 | dasunt | New install of debian. |
| 20:21.07 | dasunt | Suggestions? |
| 20:21.22 | shwouchk | jelly-home: :) |
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| 20:22.00 | jelly-home | ribnitz: INPUT_MOUSEDEV. I also have most of MOUSE_PS2_*, CONFIG_HID=y, CONFIG_USB_HID=m, CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y |
| 20:22.38 | dasunt | *ponders grub* |
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| 20:24.03 | dasunt | Ah, I see the problem. |
| 20:24.21 | dasunt | I have etc on its own partition. |
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| 20:24.27 | Shadowcat | umm anyone encountered this in etch: /usr/local/share/fonts: failed to write cache |
| 20:24.37 | ribnitz | jelly-home: input_mousedev set, ..PSAUX not set. CONFIG_HID=y, USB_HID=m, HIDDEV=y, USB_KEYBOARD, USB_MOSE both m |
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| 20:25.36 | ribnitz | jelly-home: do I need USB host controller drivers? |
| 20:25.47 | RoyK | hi. where can i find info about how to build a .deb package? |
| 20:26.10 | abrotman | !mg |
| 20:26.10 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
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| 20:28.19 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 20:28.19 | dpkg | somebody said qotd5 was <antgel__>wols_: that was my question. i have established that the best method could be to open the disc and use a small magnet to get all the 1s and 0s in the right places |
| 20:28.30 | abrotman | eh .. i got the same one earlier today! |
| 20:29.14 | wizard123 | :] |
| 20:29.15 | solemnwarning | Are there any easy to configure systems similar to AD for Linux? |
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| 20:29.41 | abrotman | ldap ? |
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| 20:29.54 | solemnwarning | Just to share users+UIDs/groups+GIDs between some systems |
| 20:29.54 | alexIdoia | if I updated my fstab, should I reboot to remount the updated drive or is there a command ? |
| 20:29.59 | CAP6694 | hola people |
| 20:30.03 | solemnwarning | And auth |
| 20:30.09 | abrotman | alexIdoia: you can just mount it |
| 20:30.18 | alexIdoia | yes sure |
| 20:30.19 | alexIdoia | thanks |
| 20:30.26 | solemnwarning | I've only got a couple of machines so I don't want too much on the server |
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| 20:31.28 | cchance | where are the apache Configuration Files held? |
| 20:31.41 | shwouchk | are xfs partitions resizable? |
| 20:31.45 | \amethyst | cchance: apache2 or apache 1.3? |
| 20:31.56 | bwhana | cchance: in /etc/apache*TAB |
| 20:32.07 | nn | does the running kernel contain any information about the directory in which it was compiled? |
| 20:32.12 | nn | I've moved the source tree after compiling it and fglrx asks for the headers in the old directory |
| 20:32.12 | ribnitz | shwouchk: yep, but only growable |
| 20:32.26 | shwouchk | ribnitz: good - thats what I need |
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| 20:32.35 | shwouchk | how? |
| 20:33.01 | chicalinux | hello umm i am triying to get a remote graffic session in other pc i have a ssh session enable and a vnc server but i only can connect to the vnc server if the graffic session is on .... any ideas how can i do that by ssh |
| 20:33.03 | chicalinux | ?? |
| 20:33.06 | NetEcho | does apt-get install dependancies along with the requested program? |
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| 20:33.09 | alexIdoia | if I have added a drive in fstab /dev/sdb to be mounted at startup to /media/archives, should I create the dir archives ? |
| 20:33.15 | valdyn | nn: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build should be a dangling symlink |
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| 20:34.23 | ribnitz | NetEcho: usually yes. |
| 20:34.42 | NetEcho | k thx |
| 20:34.48 | nn | valdyn: great, thanks for the hint |
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| 20:35.22 | abrotman | NetEcho: that's the idea of dependencies :) |
| 20:35.51 | ribnitz | shwouchk: I think there is an xfs_resizefs, or something similar; then mount with remout,resize. |
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| 20:36.24 | shwouchk | ribnitz: I already found - xfs_growfs |
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| 20:36.39 | jelly-home | ribnitz: (usb host controller drivers) yes if you want to use any usb devices. |
| 20:36.58 | ribnitz | jelly-home: that was my problem then... :) |
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| 20:37.28 | nn | shwouchk: it's very simple, delete the xfs partition, create a larger new one instead and then mount it and call xfs_growfs |
| 20:37.42 | jelly-home | ribnitz: you said not even PS2 devices worked |
| 20:37.47 | ribnitz | shwouchk: only use xfs with the caveat: it does not support suden power failures well, and instead of being corrupt, leads to files with junk in them. |
| 20:37.54 | shwouchk | nn: wtf? |
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| 20:38.08 | shwouchk | ribnitz: oh |
| 20:38.08 | ribnitz | jelly-home: I said my mouse didnt. |
| 20:38.15 | shwouchk | ribnitz: I wish I knew that earlier |
| 20:38.17 | abrotman | nn: that's not exactly a growable FS now is it ? |
| 20:38.25 | jelly-home | ribnitz: oh, I must have misread something |
| 20:38.32 | shwouchk | ribnitz: oh, well... thanks for the info |
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| 20:39.12 | nn | abrotman: it is, the data doesn't get lost while deleting the partition |
| 20:39.17 | shwouchk | can I somehow change the UUID of a filesystem? |
| 20:39.17 | ribnitz | shwouchk: just to add to the confusion: JFS has the same problem, sometimes; don't know about reiser; and ex3 is plain slow. |
| 20:39.22 | jelly-home | abrotman: note he didn't say "delete the fs", just the partition |
| 20:39.31 | nn | exactly |
| 20:39.34 | abrotman | jelly-home: oh .in that case .. |
| 20:39.36 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 20:39.59 | ribnitz | shwouchk: Only real remedy is regular, automated backup |
| 20:40.16 | jelly-home | abrotman: all should be well if the new one begins in the exact same place and is >= size |
| 20:40.17 | abrotman | an UPS with a serial cable helps :) |
| 20:40.23 | shwouchk | ribnitz: well, I used reiserfs pretty extensively, and after a massive amount of rewrites it became pretty slow - but never just afaik |
| 20:40.41 | shwouchk | ribnitz: well, this is a torrent server so I dont mind some junk now and then :) |
| 20:40.44 | abrotman | I CAN'T FIND MY REMOTE AND I'M WATCHING A TIME/LIFE COMMERCIAL!!!! |
| 20:40.49 | solemnwarning | abrotman: Serial is dying |
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| 20:40.55 | shwouchk | ribnitz: good to know though |
| 20:40.56 | abrotman | solemnwarning: USB is serial |
| 20:40.57 | jelly-home | abrotman: pull the plug |
| 20:40.57 | ribnitz | shwouchk: I cannot talk about reiser; in the office I use jfs and xfs, and a backup. |
| 20:40.58 | shwouchk | thanks |
| 20:41.03 | Shadowcat | !kill abrotman |
| 20:41.14 | shwouchk | !suicide |
| 20:41.26 | abrotman | to make it worse .. it's a Country Romance song commercial |
| 20:41.40 | shwouchk | can I somehow change the UUID of a filesystem? |
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| 20:41.59 | deejoe | so, I have an old laptop with a now non-functioning CD drive. It doesn't have any other way to boot but the hard drive. I've installed a base etch onto the hard drive using a combination of debootstrap and qemu on another system. My problem is that back in the day, hotplug would Just Work to recognize various pc cards on insertion, but with this system, my Orinoco Silver 802.11b card isn't recognized, and I see that hotplug conflicts with udev or som |
| 20:42.22 | abrotman | deejoe: you're supposed to use udev now |
| 20:42.35 | deejoe | ok |
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| 20:42.51 | deejoe | then that transforms the question into why isn't udev recognizing it? |
| 20:42.53 | jelly-home | deejoe: udev is also supposed to load the appropriate modules once the card is inserted |
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| 20:43.08 | jelly-home | deejoe: at least this works with my cardbus cards |
| 20:43.10 | haxality | anyone here have any experience with initng? |
| 20:43.15 | abrotman | maybe you need that allow-hotplug thingie |
| 20:44.06 | abrotman | haxality: last i tried .. it didn't work .. |
| 20:44.13 | abrotman | though that was a while ago |
| 20:44.16 | shwouchk | whats initng? |
| 20:44.24 | ribnitz | gah.. why do kernel builds take that frigging long time? |
| 20:44.25 | abrotman | !info initng experimental |
| 20:44.27 | dpkg | initng: (Full replacement of the old sysvinit tool), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.5.2-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 231 kB, Installed size: 1548 kB |
| 20:44.35 | shwouchk | can I somehow change the UUID of a filesystem? |
| 20:44.52 | jelly-home | ribnitz: long time? |
| 20:45.01 | ribnitz | abrotman: Is that supposed to be like file-rc? |
| 20:45.16 | ribnitz | jelly-home: half an hour or so? |
| 20:45.20 | MONO` | ahhaha |
| 20:45.21 | jelly-home | ribnitz: about 8-10 minutes on an recent amd cpu here. |
| 20:45.45 | ribnitz | jelly-home: P4, 3.2 Ghz |
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| 20:46.08 | abrotman | ribnitz: it's an initsystem for parallel booting |
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| 20:46.21 | jelly-home | ribnitz: you have lots of crap enabled OR you don't have enough memory, it shouldn't take that much. |
| 20:46.23 | shal | Hi lads |
| 20:46.25 | nn | parallel booting? |
| 20:46.30 | abrotman | ribnitz: it's supposed to boot a lot faster |
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| 20:46.38 | ribnitz | abrotman: does it? |
| 20:46.48 | abrotman | ribnitz: i'll let you know if i ever get it working :) |
| 20:46.55 | abrotman | but i've not tried in a long time .. maybe a year |
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| 20:47.05 | deejoe | a quick glance makes me think that for allow-hotplug to do its work, a device name would already have to have been assigned to the interface on the pc card |
| 20:47.10 | jelly-home | nn: parallel execution of init scripts and stuff |
| 20:47.16 | deejoe | but dmesg shows no device name being assigned |
| 20:47.22 | haxality | abrotman: afaik, it does |
| 20:47.28 | haxality | I can't get my keyboard to work though |
| 20:47.29 | ribnitz | jelly-home: I usually do only one kernel built, with initrd, and practically everything as module. |
| 20:47.30 | shal | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx |
| 20:47.35 | abrotman | ribnitz: and a new version hasn't been uploaded in about 1.5 years |
| 20:47.35 | haxality | I get some error about 'needing to use install-keymap' |
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| 20:47.39 | shal | would that be suitable as my graphic driver? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx |
| 20:47.44 | shal | iv got a geforce 6600 |
| 20:47.44 | abrotman | haxality: right .. i found weird stuff like that |
| 20:47.48 | nn | jelly-home: sounds dangerous ;-) |
| 20:47.51 | ribnitz | abrotman: dead? |
| 20:48.02 | haxality | abrotman: I will testify that it cuts my laptop's boot time about in half though |
| 20:48.07 | haxality | meh, for another day |
| 20:48.14 | valdyn | shal: what's wrong with the driver in stable? |
| 20:48.15 | haxality | I'd rather not break my init system just yet :P |
| 20:48.27 | abrotman | ribnitz: not at all .. but there is a competing system also |
| 20:48.35 | ribnitz | shal: for nvidia, you need to build your own kernel moule, like with module-assistant |
| 20:48.37 | shal | at the moment debian wont let me run my resolution higher then 640 :S |
| 20:48.41 | cchance | Any one know how to add php 5 to apache 1.3? |
| 20:48.41 | abrotman | same idea .. different name .. that i can't remember |
| 20:48.42 | jelly-home | nn: sounds like a technology from the 1990s, instead of the 1970's crap we have now. |
| 20:48.44 | shal | how do i build my own kernal? |
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| 20:49.16 | abrotman | that has nothing to do with your kernel |
| 20:49.19 | ribnitz | shal: you use kernel-packafe |
| 20:49.23 | ribnitz | er ..package |
| 20:49.42 | shal | so whats the problem then? |
| 20:49.45 | nn | jelly-home: btw. are there distros that adopted apple's launchd? |
| 20:49.48 | ampex | does anyone else think that X in general is overly complex and outdated? |
| 20:49.49 | shal | abrtoman done what you told me still did not work :S |
| 20:49.52 | shal | for the 6600! |
| 20:49.55 | abrotman | !info upstart experimental |
| 20:49.55 | jelly-home | nn: no idea |
| 20:49.56 | dpkg | upstart: (event-based init daemon), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.3.8-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 159 kB, Installed size: 320 kB |
| 20:50.03 | abrotman | shal: using the nv driver ? |
| 20:50.08 | shal | yeh :S |
| 20:50.16 | abrotman | shal: paste your X log somewhere |
| 20:50.27 | ribnitz | ampex: what do you have to replace it with? |
| 20:50.28 | abrotman | ribnitz: upstart is another method to do kind of like initng does |
| 20:50.30 | shal | i formated it remmember i havent installed it again :S |
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| 20:50.52 | abrotman | oh jeez |
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| 20:51.05 | ampex | ribnitz: absolutely nothing, but it just seems that X today is just years of patching and adding onto an incredibly old code base that favored compatibility over stability or robustness |
| 20:51.08 | Jebediah | where would I find newer kernel packages than what I can apt-get? |
| 20:51.11 | shal | what should i do cos im clueless at the moment :S |
| 20:51.18 | abrotman | !drxx shal |
| 20:51.18 | dpkg | shal: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 20:51.20 | abrotman | and choosenv |
| 20:51.22 | abrotman | and choose nv |
| 20:51.32 | abrotman | Jebediah: maybe backports.org |
| 20:51.38 | Jebediah | ty abrotman |
| 20:51.41 | ribnitz | Jebediah: what distro do you use? |
| 20:51.57 | ribnitz | Jebediah: might result in version-hell though. |
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| 20:52.10 | wols | !tell Jebediah about backports |
| 20:52.15 | jelly-home | wtf is version hell, in debian? |
| 20:52.17 | shal | or should i follow this: http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_NVIDIA_proprietary_display_driver_installation_using_NVIDIA's_installer |
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| 20:52.50 | cchance | Is Joomla and Zpanel A goof mix for starting my own buisness? |
| 20:52.53 | abrotman | shal: you don't need that unless you want 3d stuffs |
| 20:52.59 | abrotman | 3d acceleration |
| 20:53.01 | wols | shal: no |
| 20:53.01 | mindmedic | !tell mindmedic about backports |
| 20:53.02 | shal | also whats the difference between Xtrem and Gnome terminal |
| 20:53.11 | wols | shal: your card will work fine with the nvidia drivers in stable |
| 20:53.20 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 20:53.21 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 20:53.21 | Jebediah | ribnitz, I'm using Debian of course... but backports doesn't have kernel packages |
| 20:53.22 | shal | is there a tutorial on how to do what im doing? As i think im doing something wrong |
| 20:53.24 | ribnitz | jelly-home: broken package |
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| 20:53.46 | Jebediah | I need something newer than 2.6.8 and compiling my own is causing probs |
| 20:53.55 | ribnitz | Jebediah: I think the latest apt-gettable is 18, or 20 |
| 20:54.01 | wols | Jebediah: debian stable uses 2.6.18-4 |
| 20:54.09 | shal | i paste this? apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:54.19 | wols | Jebediah: dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
| 20:54.24 | wols | Jebediah: what does this say? |
| 20:54.41 | shal | how do i login to root again via terminal? Whats the difference between Gnome Terminal and Xshell? |
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| 20:54.48 | Jebediah | ii libc6 2.5-9+b1 |
| 20:54.50 | dnanar | hi all ! |
| 20:55.04 | wols | Jebediah: what debian version is this? |
| 20:55.22 | jelly-home | ribnitz: doesn't happen much for me, and I use stuff from stable to experimental. |
| 20:55.35 | Jebediah | ribnitz, when I go to apt-get it only lists some early 2.6 kernels |
| 20:55.47 | Jebediah | wols, lenny/sid |
| 20:55.47 | abrotman | wols: that's current in lenny |
| 20:55.50 | ribnitz | Jebediah: cat /etc/debian_version ? |
| 20:55.54 | wols | Jebediah: ah testing. you run a sarge kernel (2 years old) with a debian testing install |
| 20:55.56 | abrotman | Jebediah: define .. ear'y |
| 20:55.58 | abrotman | early |
| 20:56.23 | ribnitz | abrotman: having ears? ;) |
| 20:56.23 | shal | abrotman so what should i do different people are telling me different things! |
| 20:56.23 | shal | s |
| 20:56.26 | wols | Jebediah: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6 |
| 20:56.29 | Jebediah | ahhhhh... so how would I upgrade that? I actually have been compiling my own kernels for ages, but something is getting messed up with graphics |
| 20:56.41 | abrotman | shal: you can either use the 'nv' driver .. or use the nvidia one-liner above |
| 20:56.44 | wols | shal: no we don't. we all thell you the same thing |
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| 20:57.01 | Jebediah | linux-image-2.6: |
| 20:57.01 | Jebediah | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.01 | Jebediah | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.01 | Jebediah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:57.04 | wols | Jebediah: you apt-get it like any other |
| 20:57.06 | dnanar | does anyone know how to prevent an user to go on an parent directory of his own home directory. i mean how to prevent some user call "a" to go outside "/home/a" please ? i tried to play a bit with permission without success (i messed up all my system -_-). May anyone help me please ? =) |
| 20:57.08 | shal | should i try installing the drivers first though? |
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| 20:57.17 | shal | get them from Nvidias website? |
| 20:57.17 | abrotman | Jebediah: what's your CPU ? |
| 20:57.18 | Jebediah | woops |
| 20:57.21 | abrotman | this sure is a paste-happy sunday |
| 20:57.25 | abrotman | shal: no way |
| 20:57.29 | Jebediah | AMD64 3400+ |
| 20:57.30 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 20:57.30 | dpkg | methinks nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 20:57.35 | wols | shal: if you do we won't support you. then you are on your own. we only support the debian way. not nvidia.com drivers |
| 20:57.40 | abrotman | Jebediah: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:57.51 | wols | abrotman: k7 |
| 20:57.57 | jelly-home | -amd64 :-> |
| 20:58.10 | abrotman | any of those should work :) |
| 20:58.11 | shal | ok |
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| 20:58.13 | shal | soroush@securicore:~$ pt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:58.13 | shal | bash: pt-get: command not found |
| 20:58.13 | shal | soroush@securicore:~$ |
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| 20:58.23 | Jebediah | ahh, now I see! They call it linux image and not kernel image now |
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| 20:58.26 | wols | shwouchk: apt-get. and you need to be root. man su |
| 20:58.31 | shal | thats the respone i got! |
| 20:58.46 | wols | sha1: apt-get. and you need to be root. man su |
| 20:58.59 | shal | ok im in root now can you paste me back the command please |
| 20:58.59 | shal | :P |
| 20:59.02 | shal | forgot it |
| 20:59.06 | wols | shal: and you need contrib and non-free in your sources.list |
| 20:59.09 | shwouchk | wols: that was really offensive! ha! man su |
| 20:59.20 | wols | !tell shal about paste |
| 20:59.22 | shal | wols how do i do that? |
| 20:59.26 | shal | im debian n00b :) |
| 20:59.28 | shal | just learning |
| 20:59.30 | Jebediah | tyvm guys / gals... it's the little things that trip a person up |
| 20:59.34 | wols | !tell shal about grounding |
| 20:59.41 | dnanar | Anyone may help me please ? =) |
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| 21:00.03 | shal | wols i just want to fix my gfx and then ill be on my way learning! |
| 21:00.24 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 21:00.25 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 21:00.37 | wols | !tell abrotman about repeat |
| 21:00.44 | solemnwarning | rofl |
| 21:00.48 | hackeron | hey, can someone tell me how to grep for the pound (sterling) sign? |
| 21:00.48 | abrotman | i wouldn't have to if he'd just damn do it already |
| 21:01.01 | shal | E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 |
| 21:01.03 | abrotman | (i also should have !tell about the first time) |
| 21:01.06 | shal | everyone else came up ok |
| 21:01.09 | shal | but that error came |
| 21:01.10 | wols | abrotman: he didn't get it the first two times. what makes you he's smarter the third time around? |
| 21:01.15 | shwouchk | I did grub-install /dev/hda and its thinking for like 10 mintes already.. wtf?! |
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| 21:01.17 | wols | abrotman: you know how insanity is defined ? |
| 21:01.38 | abrotman | wols: spending a sunday in #debian .. willingly |
| 21:01.40 | shal | also the debian i downloaded came in 3 dvd's i only installed number one do i need to install 2 and 3 as well or are they addons? |
| 21:01.50 | wols | abrotman: and what is worse, we do it every sunday |
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| 21:02.11 | wols | shal: I told you. you need contrib and non-free sources |
| 21:02.13 | ribnitz | shal: Usually they are addons.. |
| 21:02.21 | wols | !tell shal about non-free |
| 21:02.26 | wols | !tell shal about contrib |
| 21:02.53 | shal | so non-free are evil and bad? |
| 21:03.12 | Shadowcat | bah never EVER type dpkg-reconfigure -all |
| 21:03.24 | mindmedic | shal: that depends on your stance |
| 21:03.24 | wols | gege |
| 21:03.24 | abrotman | wols: at least i get paid! |
| 21:03.29 | ribnitz | shal: thats a very restrictive view. |
| 21:03.31 | wols | Shadowcat: 0wn3d |
| 21:03.39 | wols | abrotman: dondelelcaro pays you???? |
| 21:03.45 | Shadowcat | 0wned! |
| 21:03.50 | ribnitz | shal: some things cannot be done witout non-free |
| 21:03.51 | abrotman | wols: virtual beer .. and lots of it |
| 21:04.07 | shwouchk | I did grub-install /dev/hda and its thinking for like 10 mintes already.. wtf?! |
| 21:04.40 | MONO` | hi everyone |
| 21:04.58 | ribnitz | ello |
| 21:05.07 | MONO` | what's up? |
| 21:05.20 | ribnitz | celing? |
| 21:05.22 | kramed_ | how many cpus can the linux kernel support? |
| 21:05.26 | lekvar | I'm trying 2.6.21 and get freezes on bootup right after the "drivers/usb/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID cpre driver" line. Anyone happen to know what's up with that? |
| 21:05.41 | wols | kramed_: I think SGI sells machines with a thousand cpus or so |
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| 21:05.49 | ribnitz | kramed_: It has no-problems supporting smp systems. |
| 21:05.49 | shal | Wols: http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ which package would i need to dl? |
| 21:05.50 | abrotman | kramed_: depends on the architecture |
| 21:05.58 | wols | kramed_: out of the box probably >=64 IIRC |
| 21:06.12 | shwouchk | I did grub-install /dev/hda and its thinking for like 10 mintes already.. it gave a bit of progress but since then it does nothing... wtf?! |
| 21:06.14 | ribnitz | kramed_: non-smp mult-cpu systems are kinda not that widely used |
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| 21:06.31 | IsaqueFD | hello |
| 21:06.51 | shal | abrotman? |
| 21:06.52 | shal | http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 21:06.55 | shal | which one would i need? |
| 21:07.03 | wols | shal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as root!) and choose nv |
| 21:07.13 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 21:07.39 | wols | abrotman: makes you wonder how he found that url, right? |
| 21:07.48 | streuner | abrotman: become a DD |
| 21:07.57 | abrotman | streuner: to do what ? |
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| 21:08.05 | ilikec0ws | Is there any of the installation methods which allows me to choose which packages I want to install? |
| 21:08.14 | abrotman | all of them ? |
| 21:08.15 | wols | ilikec0ws: yes |
| 21:08.17 | ribnitz | abrotman: get a nice badge, have a lot of work. |
| 21:08.17 | streuner | you travel for free to debconf at least |
| 21:08.29 | abrotman | streuner: in argentina ? |
| 21:08.33 | ribnitz | ilikec0ws: all of them. |
| 21:08.36 | streuner | sure |
| 21:08.58 | ilikec0ws | ribnitz, Do i use the advanced boot option or something? |
| 21:08.58 | shwouchk | NOOOOOOO |
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| 21:09.04 | ribnitz | streuner: isnt the next one in scotland? |
| 21:09.06 | streuner | but you should start right now, nobody knows when the NM process is over... |
| 21:09.06 | kramed_ | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/maximum-memory-and-cpu-limitations-for-linux-server.html <-- is that guy correct? 32 max 32bit cpus and up to 64 amd64/em64t? |
| 21:09.09 | IsaqueFD | where i obtain the plugin ssl/tls? |
| 21:09.12 | MONO` | why does debhelper change the mode? |
| 21:09.15 | shwouchk | My system hung and I didnt det up grub yet :( |
| 21:09.18 | streuner | rbinitz: EDI is over |
| 21:09.21 | wols | IsaqueFD: plugin for what? |
| 21:09.25 | shwouchk | SHOT |
| 21:09.27 | streuner | ribnitz: ^^^ |
| 21:09.28 | shwouchk | SHIT |
| 21:09.29 | ribnitz | streuner: ah.. |
| 21:09.35 | IsaqueFD | wols SSL/TLS for PSI |
| 21:09.37 | shwouchk | !suicide |
| 21:09.38 | streuner | ribnitz: next is in .ar |
| 21:09.39 | ilikec0ws | ribnitz, I mean like specific packages, not just groups? |
| 21:09.47 | shwouchk | !kill me |
| 21:09.48 | wols | IsaqueFD: PSI is what? |
| 21:09.54 | abrotman | kramed_: i said .. it depends on the architecture .. try asking #kernel |
| 21:10.00 | IsaqueFD | wols client for jabber |
| 21:10.09 | kramed_ | ok thanks |
| 21:10.11 | ribnitz | streuner: that could be nice (and expensive?) |
| 21:10.18 | shal | when im in the X bit |
| 21:10.22 | shal | do i use Yes and No? |
| 21:10.25 | shal | or Y and No? |
| 21:10.27 | streuner | ribnitz: the flight of course |
| 21:10.37 | shal | cos i dont think its taking my response in properly :S |
| 21:10.45 | shal | im running it in gnome terminal.... |
| 21:10.48 | ribnitz | streuner: Isnt the $CURRENCY still pinned 1:1 to USD? |
| 21:10.52 | wols | shal: curso keys, tab and space and enter |
| 21:10.58 | streuner | ribnitz: there arent any "Vertraege" to fly oversea yet for low-cost-airlines... |
| 21:11.11 | shal | but its asking me to enter my answer |
| 21:11.17 | shal | i just type in N or Y or Yes or No? |
| 21:11.22 | wols | shal: what is it asking exactly? |
| 21:11.38 | abrotman | shal: use the dart board luke |
| 21:12.05 | shal | its asking to autodetect my keyboard again |
| 21:12.06 | shal | i typed in N |
| 21:12.13 | shal | and then its gone to try and autotdetect again! |
| 21:12.14 | shal | :S |
| 21:12.43 | ribnitz | shal: is that an usb kbd? |
| 21:12.47 | shal | yes |
| 21:13.00 | ribnitz | shal: on an etch? |
| 21:13.09 | ilikec0ws | wols, Does it allow me to choose speific packages though or just groups? |
| 21:13.11 | shal | oh no it aint its ps2 :P |
| 21:13.15 | shal | the mouse is USB |
| 21:13.19 | shal | yes on etch |
| 21:13.36 | ribnitz | shal: that should be no prob at all then |
| 21:13.43 | shal | its asking me for a mouse port :S |
| 21:13.46 | shal | which one do i choose? |
| 21:13.54 | shal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.54 | shal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.01 | shal | 1? |
| 21:14.15 | wols | 1 |
| 21:14.25 | shal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.26 | shal | 2? |
| 21:14.27 | mindmedic | 1 combines all connected mice and is a good option |
| 21:14.36 | ribnitz | 1 is the usual. (2 is for PS2 mice=, 3 for serial |
| 21:14.47 | shal | so il lgo with 2 then |
| 21:14.56 | ribnitz | shal: what kinda mouse is it? |
| 21:14.58 | shal | oh wait my mouse is USB |
| 21:15.26 | shal | go for 1? |
| 21:15.35 | capiira | wow |
| 21:15.38 | ribnitz | shal: /dev/input/mice |
| 21:15.43 | capiira | tesitng got 2.18 and kde 3.5.7 |
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| 21:15.50 | shal | yeh i done that one |
| 21:15.52 | shal | im on this now |
| 21:15.53 | shal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.23 | ribnitz | shal: mine works fine with Explorer, but that depends on the mouse. |
| 21:16.30 | shal | ok il lgo with 2 |
| 21:16.45 | wols | shal: what mouse do you have? |
| 21:16.49 | wols | usually it's imps/2 |
| 21:16.56 | shal | logitech :S |
| 21:17.00 | shal | damn iv gone with 2! |
| 21:17.02 | wols | imps2 then |
| 21:17.05 | shal | anyway i can fix that then? |
| 21:17.11 | wols | yes. redo it |
| 21:17.23 | shal | shit ok :S |
| 21:17.28 | shal | can i get the command again then please |
| 21:17.30 | ribnitz | shal: later, after you found out that it doesn't work. |
| 21:17.42 | shal | rather do it nwo |
| 21:17.43 | ribnitz | shal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 21:19.31 | ribnitz | The warnings 'ID recommended on ..' are harmless, when building a kernel, I assume |
| 21:20.03 | shal | thanks |
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| 21:20.09 | shal | emulating 3 button mouse is good? |
| 21:20.14 | shal | mines got 2 buttons and a middle scroller |
| 21:20.25 | wols | no emulation needed then |
| 21:20.30 | ribnitz | shal: then it has 5, left,right, up, down |
| 21:20.30 | shal | ok |
| 21:20.36 | wols | you can press that wheel. it's a button too |
| 21:20.46 | ribnitz | shal: 6 actually; middle too |
| 21:21.09 | shal | should i leave xorg server module as default? |
| 21:21.09 | wols | left,right, up, down means 5 to you? |
| 21:21.15 | shal | lol |
| 21:21.17 | wols | yes |
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| 21:21.31 | shal | write default files to section config? |
| 21:21.46 | wols | yes |
| 21:22.04 | ribnitz | wols: Is being able to count a prereq for using debian? ;) |
| 21:22.05 | abrotman | neither is reading |
| 21:22.05 | shal | attembt monitor detection? |
| 21:22.11 | shal | is it really needed? its working perfect.... |
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| 21:22.54 | IsaqueFD | wols ideas? |
| 21:22.59 | wols | abrotman: explains the gui installer |
| 21:23.11 | abrotman | hehe |
| 21:23.16 | wols | !tell IsaqueFD about search |
| 21:23.19 | abrotman | shal: did you pick your driver already? |
| 21:23.23 | shal | nv |
| 21:23.27 | shal | yeh |
| 21:23.33 | abrotman | shal: keep hitting enter til it's done |
| 21:23.38 | shal | done :) |
| 21:23.47 | shal | rebooot? |
| 21:23.49 | ribnitz | how do I get rid of the 'perl:Falling back to standard locale ("C") msgs? |
| 21:24.11 | ribnitz | shal: you only need to reboot if you install a new kernel. |
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| 21:24.23 | streuner | ribnitz: dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 21:24.23 | shal | well it still wont let me change teh resolution! |
| 21:24.27 | inFw | shal: only the X system. ctrl+alt+bksp |
| 21:24.36 | shal | wtf is bksp? |
| 21:24.40 | shal | ohh backspace lol |
| 21:24.49 | abrotman | shal: how many resolutions did you pick ? |
| 21:24.53 | shal | 12084 |
| 21:25.00 | shal | 1084 |
| 21:25.05 | shal | i pressed entere as u asid |
| 21:25.20 | ribnitz | shal: 1280x1024? |
| 21:25.26 | shal | thats it :P |
| 21:25.48 | ribnitz | shal: standard for 19" TFTs, some 17" do it too. |
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| 21:25.57 | shal | just going to reboot as i done a secruity update and said chnages wont take place as it could not support etc |
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| 21:26.02 | shal | my 17 supports it |
| 21:26.05 | shal | brb lads :) |
| 21:27.47 | IsaqueFD | wols I tried, but I don't obtain |
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| 21:28.14 | abrotman | !tell pepesmith about root |
| 21:28.37 | shwouchk | !kill everyone |
| 21:28.50 | Jebediah | lol |
| 21:28.55 | ampex | !tell ampex about root |
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| 21:29.20 | shwouchk | ampex: you can just tell him 'root' |
| 21:29.20 | pocukrani | how i can delete old ssh key`s of konqueror remote? |
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| 21:29.26 | shal | omg omg |
| 21:29.27 | shal | its fixed |
| 21:29.34 | shal | thank you all sooo much! |
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| 21:29.39 | IsaqueFD | wols I installed the many packages |
| 21:29.50 | ribnitz | shal: Its magick :) |
| 21:30.15 | camilo | good afternoon to everybody i'am amateur in debian and i got a problem |
| 21:30.21 | ribnitz | Ok. rebooting now, in the hope of getting a working mouse |
| 21:30.34 | ribnitz | !tell camilo about ask |
| 21:30.35 | shal | so is there a big difference between Gnome Terminal and Xshell? im just curious whats the difference between them |
| 21:30.38 | shal | do they have a special function |
| 21:30.46 | shal | or are they used for different things? |
| 21:30.49 | camilo | i finalize debian instalation lke ten times but it happenes the same always |
| 21:30.50 | jelly-home | ribnitz: any special reason for not using the distro kernel, btw? |
| 21:30.53 | shal | also can you get Mozilla FireFox and Thunderbird on Debian? |
| 21:30.58 | Jebediah | shal, different programs for the same thing |
| 21:31.06 | shal | should i uninstall one of them? |
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| 21:31.19 | shal | and whats with all these web browsers |
| 21:31.27 | Jebediah | shal, no reason to; to get firefox do apt-get install iceweasel |
| 21:31.46 | jelly-home | shal: there are "iceweasel" and "icedove" which and basically renamed firefox and t-bird |
| 21:31.52 | robin_sz | iceweasel still seems to be leaky |
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| 21:32.04 | camilo | before starting debian gnome interface appears instead a screen black turning to white and no more |
| 21:32.08 | lekvar | firefox is leaky so of course iceweasel is too |
| 21:32.14 | robin_sz | it grew to over 400m today, firefox doent seem to do that |
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| 21:32.19 | pepesmith | hello all, I have installed a new video card on my computer, my gde wont display anymore, how can i reconfigure my system to display my gde again? |
| 21:32.24 | lekvar | you're lucky robin |
| 21:32.26 | Jebediah | camilo, sounds like a video problem... what chipset? |
| 21:32.41 | robin_sz | lekvar, possibly, and firefox has the nice logo too |
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| 21:33.36 | abrotman | !drxx pepesmith |
| 21:33.36 | dpkg | pepesmith: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 21:33.36 | shal | apt-get install icedove ?? |
| 21:33.37 | camilo | this is the chipset 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2) |
| 21:33.37 | lekvar | I'm too busy doing foolish things like trying to use reiser4 to get to installing stuff like graphical browsers ;) |
| 21:33.42 | robin_sz | shal, that or thunderbird, depending on which logo you prefer |
| 21:33.43 | Jebediah | when I do a make modules install will it wipe out all the modules in /lib/kernel_version/? |
| 21:33.54 | pepesmith | thanks abrotman |
| 21:33.56 | shal | thanks |
| 21:34.01 | shal | and how do i uninstall applications? |
| 21:34.08 | Jebediah | camilo, same as me :) Have you tried to reconfigure X with dpgk? |
| 21:34.12 | shal | too much crap loaded already to be honest i dont need 3 different web browsers |
| 21:34.14 | abrotman | !tell shal about grounding |
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| 21:34.18 | abrotman | !tell shal about refcard |
| 21:34.24 | beardy | Jebediah: Yes, AFAIK. |
| 21:34.36 | robin_sz | shal apt-get remove <foo> ... but it leaves the dependencies behind |
| 21:34.36 | Jebediah | beardy, thanks |
| 21:34.40 | beardy | Jebediah: Well, rather overwrite. |
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| 21:34.50 | robin_sz | is this #deviant? |
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| 21:34.56 | Jebediah | beardy, hmmm, I best just remove the dir then |
| 21:35.11 | beardy | Jebediah: Yes, if you know what you are doing. |
| 21:35.19 | Jebediah | shal, apt-get remove whatever ... or install synaptic |
| 21:35.29 | Jebediah | beardy, yeah, I do for the most part ;) |
| 21:35.51 | beardy | Jebediah: Use make-kpkg and have the modules in a package instead? |
| 21:36.27 | Jebediah | beardy, eh I should, but I've always done my kernal installs the old school way. Of course now that I'm having problems I should learn... |
| 21:36.45 | shal | synaptic is the best way? |
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| 21:36.55 | Jebediah | shal, synaptic is the easiest way |
| 21:37.17 | nn_ | what developer tool do I need to modify the "provides" tag of a debian package? |
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| 21:37.44 | nn_ | fglrx-driver in etch is configured to provide "xserver-xorg-video-1.0", the original ati version is not.. |
| 21:37.48 | nn_ | stupid ati.. |
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| 21:38.17 | Jebediah | ok, time to reboot and see what works and what doesn't |
| 21:38.31 | shal | ok |
| 21:38.39 | shal | i just done |
| 21:38.42 | shal | apt-get thunderbird |
| 21:38.48 | shal | and firefox but cant seem to find them :S |
| 21:38.51 | shal | dont know where they gone to |
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| 21:40.19 | yoshio | shal: firefox is now iceweasel (in Debian), Mozilla is iceape |
| 21:40.25 | shal | ahhh ok |
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| 21:40.51 | adamonline45 | Hello. Is there a server-based install for Debian, similar to how Ubuntu has a server-edition? |
| 21:41.05 | yoshio | shal: thunderbird is icedove |
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| 21:41.29 | arnaud_ | adamonline45: you can choose when you install it |
| 21:41.35 | abrotman | adamonline45: debian stable netinst will work just fine |
| 21:42.28 | adamonline45 | Cool, ty both... So, that won't do anything automatic like install a LAMP server will it? :D |
| 21:42.32 | dasunt | Okay, is it kosher to have /boot as a vanilla ext3 partition and / under LVM? |
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| 21:42.50 | beardy | adamonline45: Install what you want. |
| 21:42.54 | arnaud_ | I think you can choose a "web server" pattern |
| 21:43.00 | simonrvn | dasunt: you'll need an initrd if you do that |
| 21:43.07 | beardy | Which is called a "task" not a pattern. |
| 21:43.14 | beardy | simonrvn: ! |
| 21:43.17 | simonrvn | adamonline45: you'll need database server and web server tasks |
| 21:43.39 | simonrvn | beardy: hi |
| 21:43.46 | robin_sz | I'll second the "just install what you need" advice |
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| 21:44.13 | pingouiin | where/how i'm suppose to put some options at booting time, with grub ? |
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| 21:44.40 | dasunt | simonrvn: Is that created by default? |
| 21:44.54 | jelly-home | yeah, but when you're a new user you don't really know that "what you need" is called, say, mysql-server-5.0 |
| 21:45.27 | shal | i just uinstall the main files |
| 21:45.31 | shal | i should leave teh rest |
| 21:45.33 | simonrvn | dasunt: debian kernels come with one |
| 21:45.34 | adamonline45 | simonrvn: Alright, I'm actually hoping it's just gonna be a basic install, tbh :) Last question: why are there so many .isos available on the main download page? it goes from debian-40r0-1386-CD-1 to -CD-21. Many are different sizes, how do I know which one I want? |
| 21:45.36 | shal | as they could affect other stuff right? |
| 21:46.07 | dasunt | simonrvn: Hmmmm. |
| 21:46.09 | abrotman | adamonline45: in case you need offline installation |
| 21:46.15 | abrotman | adamonline45: and make sure you get the stable installer |
| 21:46.16 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 21:46.17 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 21:46.21 | osmosis | what to I apt-get for libqt-mt.so.3 ? |
| 21:46.22 | abrotman | adamonline45: the first url above |
| 21:46.25 | dasunt | simonrvn: So what am I doing wrong? |
| 21:46.28 | dasunt | *checks machine again* |
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| 21:47.03 | beardy | simonrvn: Hello |
| 21:47.16 | simonrvn | afk |
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| 21:47.29 | oddjob | hello |
| 21:47.59 | adamonline45 | abrotman: Alright, that link was perfect :) Thank you! |
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| 21:48.05 | oddjob | a question here, ive overclocked my e6600 to 2.6 ghz, my bios and windows tells me but in linux its 2.4 ghz according to /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:48.41 | oddjob | is it a joke, or doesnt linux care?:) |
| 21:49.01 | krazykit | i doubt it's a joke. that would be stupid. |
| 21:49.29 | krazykit | oddjob, do you have any cpufreq stuff going? it may be clocking you back a bit |
| 21:49.52 | oddjob | no i dont |
| 21:50.07 | oddjob | ive tried compiling stuff and in the meantime checked /proc/cpuinfo but still 2.4 |
| 21:50.49 | krazykit | now, you are looking at cpu MHz, right |
| 21:50.51 | krazykit | just to be sure |
| 21:51.00 | oddjob | yes ofcourse |
| 21:51.07 | krazykit | you never know ;-) |
| 21:51.10 | oddjob | :) |
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| 21:51.47 | dasunt | Interesting. |
| 21:51.48 | oddjob | i get this mttr warnings though |
| 21:52.04 | shal | is there any firwall, antivirus i would need for debian? |
| 21:52.15 | dasunt | Okay, booted up into the rescue mode on the installation CD, I can'ty mount any of the other VLM volumes -- I get the message "is not a valid block device" |
| 21:52.16 | shal | Say if im setting up an FTP or a HTTP server would i need any protection etc? |
| 21:52.26 | oddjob | mtrr: your CPUs had inconsistent variable MTRR settings |
| 21:52.26 | oddjob | mtrr: probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs. |
| 21:52.26 | oddjob | mtrr: corrected configuration. |
| 21:52.32 | oddjob | if that has something to do with it? |
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| 21:52.57 | Nipoc | Hi I've got transmission and SSH setup, If i connect to my box and give the command "nohup transmissioncli sometorrent.torrent &" and then disconnect would the torrent download after I had logged off? |
| 21:53.00 | krazykit | oddjob, most likely. |
| 21:53.17 | oddjob | any ideas how to fix it? |
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| 21:53.19 | TMH_ | shal: not for your system |
| 21:53.22 | oddjob | update kernel or bios or something? |
| 21:53.32 | TMH_ | shal: but if you have a public ftp you should have clamav watching it for viruses |
| 21:53.34 | beardy | Nipoc: Probably. Screen is good too. |
| 21:53.45 | TMH_ | shal: for the benefit of those on windows |
| 21:53.50 | krazykit | oddjob, see if there are other settings in your bios that may need be set. |
| 21:53.55 | dasunt | WTH? |
| 21:54.05 | shal | thanks :) |
| 21:54.07 | dasunt | "mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory. |
| 21:54.16 | shal | they can not upload etc just download |
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| 21:54.24 | shal | also can someone recommend a good theme site for debian? |
| 21:54.25 | shal | :P |
| 21:54.31 | oddjob | krazykit: ive gone through my bios plenty of times im quite sure its not that |
| 21:54.34 | dasunt | *tries this one more time* |
| 21:54.37 | beardy | Themes for what? |
| 21:54.38 | oddjob | perhaps ill try without mttr |
| 21:54.40 | oddjob | just for testing |
| 21:54.43 | shal | desktop etc :) |
| 21:54.57 | shal | are there better IRC Clients rathe then Gaim? |
| 21:55.00 | krazykit | shal, which desktop? gnome? kde? |
| 21:55.03 | beardy | shal: Just google it, tons of those. |
| 21:55.07 | beardy | shal: Yes, irssi. |
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| 21:55.08 | krazykit | shal, of course. irssi. |
| 21:55.10 | TMH_ | shal: i recommend irssi |
| 21:55.18 | beardy | shal: Most are preferred over Gaim. |
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| 21:55.50 | TMH_ | man out of all the people who use linux, who doesn't use irssi |
| 21:56.01 | rutski | "gcc -pedantic -std=c89 myfile.c" gives me a warning about "implicit declaration of function 'usleep'". If I take away the -std=c89 and -pedantic the warning goes away. What's up with that? (and yes, in both cases I have included unistd.h) |
| 21:56.25 | cchance | whats irssi? |
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| 21:56.35 | inFw | cchance: IRC client. |
| 21:56.57 | cchance | then why call it that |
| 21:57.07 | inFw | call it what? |
| 21:57.08 | shal | gnome |
| 21:57.09 | cchance | IRCC |
| 21:57.14 | nn___ | what is the reverse operation for "dpkg-deb -e pkg.deb dir/"? |
| 21:57.27 | cchance | I.R.C.Client |
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| 21:57.49 | dasunt | Can 'var' be its own seperate LVM partition? |
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| 21:57.58 | ampex | dasunt: why not? |
| 21:58.13 | beardy | !irssi |
| 21:58.13 | dpkg | from memory, irssi is the best irc client ever, or found in the irssi-text package on sarge, or irssi on etch |
| 21:58.19 | dasunt | ampex: I discovered that /etc can't be. |
| 21:58.28 | ampex | dasunt: why can't it? |
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| 21:59.04 | dasunt | ampex: Breaks the boot, I guess. Since the root FS can't read /etc/fstab to mount /etc |
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| 21:59.44 | oddjob | hm, removing mtrr didnt help! still 2400 mhz |
| 21:59.46 | oddjob | what is going on |
| 22:00.07 | cchance | how do i get php5 to work with apache 3.1? |
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| 22:00.42 | shal | ok just installed |
| 22:00.43 | shal | irssi |
| 22:00.49 | wols | CheekyBoinc: there is no apache 3.1 |
| 22:00.51 | shal | but cant seem to find it dont know where it installed it |
| 22:00.52 | shal | any clues? |
| 22:01.01 | inFw | shal: open a console and type irssi .) |
| 22:01.02 | cchance | yes there is |
| 22:01.04 | cchance | i have it |
| 22:01.07 | inFw | *:) |
| 22:01.12 | wols | dpkg -l |grep bin/irssi |
| 22:01.12 | dpkg | ii |grep bin/irssi 2.2-2.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 22:01.20 | wols | dpkg -L irssi |grep bin/irssi |
| 22:01.20 | dpkg | No packages found matching irssi |grep bin/irssi |
| 22:01.23 | wols | that's it |
| 22:01.33 | wols | cchance: no thereis not |
| 22:01.33 | shal | oh god |
| 22:01.40 | shal | isnt there a GUI irc client? :P |
| 22:01.46 | wols | xchat |
| 22:01.57 | cchance | Then what do you suppose i have |
| 22:02.03 | beardy | You want irssi, and screen. |
| 22:02.07 | wols | cchance: apache 1.3 |
| 22:02.20 | shal | whats screen? |
| 22:02.20 | wols | !+info libapache-mod-php5 |
| 22:02.22 | dpkg | Package 'libapache-mod-php5' does not exist. |
| 22:02.24 | cchance | shutup |
| 22:02.31 | inFw | beardy: screen+irssi on a local system? why? |
| 22:02.33 | wols | cchance: and that explans that other thing: no php5 for apache 1.3 |
| 22:02.43 | beardy | inFw: Do you run X? |
| 22:02.47 | wols | cchance: are you telling me to shut up? |
| 22:02.52 | cchance | no |
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| 22:02.55 | inFw | beardy: sometimes :) |
| 22:02.58 | cchance | nvm its just a saying |
| 22:03.01 | ampex | cchance: some manners, my boy... |
| 22:03.06 | inFw | beardy: when links doesn't have some plugin I need. |
| 22:03.07 | shal | would any theme http://www.gnome-look.org/ from that site work? |
| 22:03.15 | cchance | then what do i need to get to run php5 |
| 22:03.18 | beardy | inFw: Do you think someone that asks those questions, would NOT benefit from not asking something, quitting, then coming back asking the same thing again, for 300 days? |
| 22:03.22 | wols | apache2 |
| 22:03.27 | ampex | cchance: a newer version of apache |
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| 22:03.50 | beardy | inFw: Because they do, run X, all the time you know. |
| 22:03.53 | cchance | could i do apt-get install apache2 php5 and have them both working togeather? |
| 22:03.58 | beardy | !screen |
| 22:03.58 | dpkg | screen is, like, allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or aptitude install screen |
| 22:06.02 | jelly-home | cchance: sure |
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| 22:06.18 | inFw | beardy: then it'd be best for them to open up several terminals. No need to scare users off just by advising to use CLI applications, imho. I found out about them because I needed to use them, they will too if they need/want to I think. |
| 22:07.51 | cchance | ah boy, could i do this and have it working togeather: |
| 22:08.02 | cchance | apt-get remove php5 apache5 |
| 22:08.12 | cchance | apt-get install apache2 php5 |
| 22:08.51 | inFw | apache5 ? |
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| 22:09.09 | cchance | ment apache2 |
| 22:09.12 | zinx | dang sid's up to date, i haven't even tried apache3 or 4 yet |
| 22:09.23 | jelly-home | cchance: what do you think it would accomplish? |
| 22:09.36 | cchance | the connection of the two togeather |
| 22:09.44 | cchance | instead of what it is curently |
| 22:09.53 | zinx | you need libapache2-mod-<foo> as well |
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| 22:11.20 | jelly-home | cchance: if you have apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 already installed, you need not remove and reinstall anything |
| 22:11.22 | cchance | so apt-get install libapache2-min-php5 php5 apache2 ? |
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| 22:12.00 | jelly-home | cchance: do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed now? |
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| 22:12.23 | cchance | no, i just wiped out php5 and apache2 |
| 22:12.30 | jelly-home | why? |
| 22:12.45 | cchance | to do the code im about to do |
| 22:13.16 | jelly-home | there was no need to do that, but anyway, yes, that last apt-get line ought to be enough |
| 22:13.32 | simonrvn | re |
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| 22:13.42 | cchance | ok, worked lets test it |
| 22:14.07 | cchance | crap, how do i turn on apache |
| 22:14.35 | simonrvn | depends what apache likes |
| 22:14.46 | cchance | il just reboot |
| 22:14.50 | cchance | that should do it right? |
| 22:14.50 | jelly-home | no. |
| 22:15.09 | krazykit | cchance, /etc/init.d/apache start, or similar |
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| 22:15.26 | cchance | ok, i add that to what to get it to start at boot up |
| 22:15.39 | jelly-home | cchance: rebooting is seldom the answer in Linux. |
| 22:15.41 | simonrvn | stop thinking like windows person |
| 22:15.47 | simonrvn | like a* |
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| 22:16.14 | NetEcho | how do you manually install a .deb file that you download with apt? |
| 22:16.24 | simonrvn | man dpkg |
| 22:16.24 | tarzeau | NetEcho: dpkg -i the.deb |
| 22:16.27 | NetEcho | thx |
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| 22:17.16 | cchance | what gives |
| 22:17.30 | NetEcho | weird that DVDStyler isn't found in apt-get |
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| 22:17.37 | cchance | i went to the ip address of my server and i get page can not be displayed |
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| 22:18.15 | NetEcho | etf |
| 22:18.19 | NetEcho | uhm |
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| 22:18.34 | NetEcho | when I search using apt-cache it finds my packages but apt-get says no suck package |
| 22:18.37 | simonrvn | !tiw |
| 22:18.37 | dpkg | Stop thinking a linux-based OS is windows, 'cause it isn't. rebooting doesn't fix things, you don't need to reboot to install or remove modules, or even upgrade the software (except booting to a newer/different kernel). |
| 22:18.54 | cchance | I got that down thatnks simonrvn |
| 22:19.01 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 22:19.18 | NetEcho | apt-cache search libwx returns a bunch of packages that I need |
| 22:19.26 | NetEcho | but apt-get install libwx doesn't find anything |
| 22:19.28 | NetEcho | what gives? |
| 22:19.31 | simonrvn | i'm eating right now, otherwise i'd be helping |
| 22:19.47 | cchance | Dont i have to add index.php to one of apaches config files? |
| 22:20.09 | beardy | NetEcho: What gives is, you have to, of course tell aptitude, since that is what you should use, which packages you want to isntall. |
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| 22:20.24 | NetEcho | beardy I want all of them |
| 22:20.27 | lekvar | Why take any chances? apt-get install $(apt-cache search libwx | cut -d\ -f1) |
| 22:20.28 | simonrvn | NetEcho: left side is the package name, right side description |
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| 22:21.02 | beardy | NetEcho: Then type/paste them on your install command line, with a space between. |
| 22:21.04 | NetEcho | lekvar that'll grab em all right? |
| 22:21.17 | lekvar | yea though i'm not sure what happens when it lists multiple versions of the same package |
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| 22:21.34 | simonrvn | cchance: you need to enable php in the conf (change text/plain to text/html; enable using the php modules plus the handlers; add index.php to the the list of default files) |
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| 22:21.49 | simonrvn | none of this is done for you |
| 22:22.02 | cchance | too bad |
| 22:22.03 | tarzeau | simonrvn: enjoy your meal |
| 22:22.31 | MONO` | how long should 'badblocks -w /dev/hdc' take with a 30gb hd?... |
| 22:22.49 | tarzeau | MONO`: dma on or off? how much rpm disk? |
| 22:23.06 | MONO` | dma? rpm? |
| 22:23.18 | tarzeau | MONO`: just give it time, there's an option to show the status |
| 22:23.28 | cchance | shoot, apache2 configs are under what directory |
| 22:23.29 | MONO` | oh well it's been running for about an hour lol |
| 22:23.33 | tarzeau | MONO`: add -s and -v |
| 22:23.37 | MONO` | tarzeau: ot |
| 22:23.45 | MONO` | *it's* been running for an hour |
| 22:23.50 | tarzeau | MONO`: bad luck for you, you didn't use -s :) |
| 22:23.54 | tarzeau | MONO`: so what? |
| 22:23.56 | MONO` | lol |
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| 22:24.19 | tarzeau | MONO`: i've run rsyncs for days to transfer terabytes of data over 100mbit links |
| 22:24.34 | MONO` | wow |
| 22:24.58 | MONO` | you got any idea how long it should take on a 30gb hd? it's a lappy if that makes too much of a diff |
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| 22:25.12 | tarzeau | MONO`: the point is you didn't give it a blocksize |
| 22:25.18 | tarzeau | MONO`: so it can take one more hour |
| 22:25.31 | MONO` | well i dont even know if the hd is usable |
| 22:25.34 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.47 | tarzeau | MONO`: yeah that's why people usually use badblocks |
| 22:26.01 | MONO` | that's why i ran it, cuz it has issues recently and i'm trying to see what's up with it |
| 22:27.12 | simonrvn | cchance: you can find out file locations of packages by doing dpkg -L packagename | less; (or more); so you'd see they were in /etc/apache2 |
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| 22:28.59 | cchance | Ok, the php files are still not working |
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| 22:29.02 | simonrvn | jelly-home: hahah |
| 22:29.46 | simonrvn | cchance: do what jelly-home said, a2enmod php5 |
| 22:29.58 | jelly-home | cchance: run "a2enmod php5". possibly restart apache afterwards, not sure |
| 22:30.20 | cchance | web1:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# a2enmod php5 |
| 22:30.20 | cchance | This module is already enabled! |
| 22:30.26 | simonrvn | yeh, you'll have to do at least a force-reload |
| 22:30.30 | simonrvn | ok |
| 22:30.41 | simonrvn | nm the reload/restart |
| 22:31.06 | simonrvn | some modules don't auto-enable on install, you'll have to pay attention to that |
| 22:31.30 | cchance | k |
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| 22:32.25 | cchance | i still have a prob here |
| 22:32.30 | synic | is there a mount option or something else that you can use to keep an extra harddrive from spooling down due to inactivity? |
| 22:32.39 | simonrvn | i thought this was covered on some debian-administration.org (or whatever the domain name is) page |
| 22:33.01 | simonrvn | synic: no |
| 22:33.04 | keyboarder | hi, can somebody tell me how can i set the username in bitchx? |
| 22:33.10 | simonrvn | not a mount option |
| 22:33.11 | krazykit | synic, probably something in hdparm |
| 22:33.15 | krazykit | keyboarder, /nick nick |
| 22:33.16 | simonrvn | yes |
| 22:33.29 | subx | if something is running in a chroot like bind, does that mean it has its own terminal and can u switch into it? |
| 22:33.29 | keyboarder | not nickname :F |
| 22:33.55 | NetEcho | anyone ever have a problem with ProFTPD trying to force IPv6 even when you specify IPv4? |
| 22:34.05 | synic | isn't hdparm only for IDE drives? |
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| 22:34.18 | jelly-home | NetEcho: by default it tries both I think |
| 22:34.27 | NetEcho | yea well its giving me a fatal error |
| 22:34.37 | NetEcho | Eclipse:/etc/proftpd# proftpd -4 |
| 22:34.37 | NetEcho | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.44 | simonrvn | some stuff is for all k gluoiktgtlgq3l4egql i hate it when irssi does this "freeze while i'm typing" shit |
| 22:34.49 | jelly-home | NetEcho: weird |
| 22:34.57 | NetEcho | yea it won't let me start ProFTPD |
| 22:34.58 | MONO` | how do i do a Secure Format? [all bytes set to 0] |
| 22:35.03 | rahul | synic: mostly... it only has a couple optinos that work for scsi |
| 22:35.10 | rahul | synic: there is sdparm for scsi drives |
| 22:35.10 | dasunt | Woot. |
| 22:35.17 | simonrvn | sdparm for scsi |
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| 22:35.26 | rahul | simonrvn for badgers |
| 22:35.30 | Arafangion | MONO`: More secure to have all bytes set to random. :) |
| 22:35.34 | jelly-home | NetEcho: "UseIPv6 no" >> /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ? |
| 22:35.36 | stoned | rahul: where you been |
| 22:35.40 | rahul | stoned: in jersey |
| 22:35.48 | rahul | picking up chicks heh |
| 22:35.56 | MONO` | Arafangion: i'm just trying to get the entire flash drive empty |
| 22:35.56 | krazykit | jersey girls aren't trash |
| 22:36.00 | krazykit | trash gets picked up, rahul |
| 22:36.01 | rahul | krazykit: hehe |
| 22:36.02 | NetEcho | jelly the op[tions not even in there |
| 22:36.06 | rahul | hell yeah |
| 22:36.10 | stoned | 1 |
| 22:36.12 | rahul | I picked it up :) |
| 22:36.26 | jelly-home | NetEcho: lots of options are not in there |
| 22:36.26 | stoned | I'm overheatin myself here man |
| 22:36.28 | rahul | nah, they weren't jersey girls. the one that was really into me was from chicago |
| 22:36.30 | stoned | its too damn hot today |
| 22:36.30 | NetEcho | but adding it does this |
| 22:36.31 | NetEcho | Eclipse.spin-net.net - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket |
| 22:36.32 | rahul | stoned: tell me about it |
| 22:36.39 | MONO` | stoned: dude my laptop is too hot to touch right now |
| 22:36.40 | simonrvn | i gotta quit my xsession, x is all bloaty |
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| 22:36.44 | rahul | stoned: you were just bicthing about the cold a little while ago... weren't you? |
| 22:36.48 | stoned | MONO`: I'm too hot to touch right now |
| 22:36.53 | NetEcho | as if it can't establish a connection with eth0 |
| 22:36.53 | MONO` | lol |
| 22:36.53 | stoned | rahul: shaddup |
| 22:36.59 | rahul | I'm too sexy for my air conditioner. |
| 22:37.09 | stoned | man |
| 22:37.12 | stoned | louisiana is awesome |
| 22:37.19 | NetEcho | brb |
| 22:37.21 | stoned | perfect all year round and plenty of rain |
| 22:37.26 | MONO` | i just fuckin burned my hand on the lappy monitor -.- |
| 22:37.27 | jelly-home | NetEcho: are you trying it bind an ip that's not on any of local interfaces? |
| 22:37.28 | stoned | and lots of humidity too. |
| 22:37.31 | rahul | heh |
| 22:37.39 | NetEcho | jeefers I want it to use any Ip available |
| 22:37.42 | NetEcho | its a networked machine |
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| 22:37.45 | rahul | stoned: so stop complaining about the weather now :P |
| 22:37.46 | adamonline45 | Does anyone know where to find the md5 sum for 4.0r0 (etch) netinst? |
| 22:37.51 | MONO` | stoned: i just burned my hand on my lappy monitor...and i'm typing with 1 hand lol |
| 22:37.56 | NetEcho | jelly-home |
| 22:38.01 | rahul | well, it's not humid, that's fo sho. |
| 22:38.04 | NetEcho | sorry meant to direct that at you |
| 22:38.14 | stoned | rahul: I jut burned my hand in this sunlight and its completely scorched |
| 22:38.18 | rahul | adamonline45: should be in the same dir on the ftp as the disk... |
| 22:38.25 | NetEcho | jelly-home I want to just start it up so I can transfer some files from 1 pc to the other |
| 22:38.28 | NetEcho | brb |
| 22:38.28 | rahul | adamonline45: at least, that's how most ftp mirrors work... |
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| 22:38.35 | rahul | stoned: you wimp |
| 22:38.51 | stoned | i can kick your ass |
| 22:38.53 | rahul | I got some chick from JC who wants to go to shows with me |
| 22:39.00 | rahul | stoned: not with your burned hand |
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| 22:39.10 | MONO` | rahul: i'm the one with the burned hand |
| 22:39.10 | stoned | i don't need a hand to kick your ass |
| 22:39.24 | rahul | MONO`: look at what stoned said just a bit ago |
| 22:39.26 | stoned | and i know where you live |
| 22:39.29 | stoned | so haha |
| 22:39.31 | rahul | heh |
| 22:39.33 | MONO` | lol |
| 22:39.46 | rahul | stoned: oh, and a former coworker and fellow jain wants to meet you |
| 22:39.47 | MONO` | -.- |
| 22:39.51 | adamonline45 | rahul: Ahh, I got it! There was no direct link, had to cancel the dl and go to parent url... ty! |
| 22:39.53 | rahul | he might have heard of you |
| 22:39.59 | stoned | rahul: oh really now |
| 22:40.06 | stoned | cool cool |
| 22:40.10 | rahul | from your band in pakistan |
| 22:40.11 | simonrvn | ut-oh :P |
| 22:40.14 | simonrvn | j/k |
| 22:40.16 | stoned | uh oh |
| 22:40.19 | rahul | heh |
| 22:40.22 | stoned | name? |
| 22:40.39 | rahul | stoned: alok lal |
| 22:40.40 | simonrvn | whoah, trippy cool |
| 22:40.48 | stoned | rahul: dunno anyone by that name |
| 22:40.50 | rahul | k |
| 22:40.58 | rahul | stoned: don't know if he knows you personally |
| 22:41.03 | stoned | oh |
| 22:41.05 | rahul | just might have heard of your band |
| 22:41.10 | stoned | oh alright then |
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| 22:41.21 | rahul | he's pretty into metal and stuff |
| 22:41.22 | stoned | yeh cool cool I can show off some shred man |
| 22:41.27 | rahul | heh |
| 22:41.33 | rahul | he wants to learn guitar, too |
| 22:41.45 | stoned | I do all them arpeggios and temobolos and stuff |
| 22:41.51 | stoned | I can play your basic rythem guitar |
| 22:41.59 | rahul | I can play your basic jersey girl |
| 22:42.23 | stoned | like jug jugga jug jugga jug jugga jah jah, jiggidy JUG JUGGAH JUG JUGGAH JUG JUGGAH JAH JAAAAAAHHH! |
| 22:42.24 | stoned | you know |
| 22:42.27 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:42.28 | stoned | I can do the little tiny stings |
| 22:42.29 | rahul | yeah I know |
| 22:42.31 | stoned | strings |
| 22:42.37 | stoned | like really fast |
| 22:42.39 | rahul | like unf unf unf unf unf |
| 22:42.42 | rahul | yeah fast |
| 22:42.43 | stoned | you know for the solo and stuff |
| 22:42.44 | MONO` | i can play your lead & rhythm guitar, bass guitar, and violin :D |
| 22:42.55 | rahul | I do jersey girls solo or two at a time. |
| 22:43.09 | stoned | MONO`: got anything recorded? |
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| 22:43.21 | MONO` | stoned: do you care about quality? |
| 22:43.24 | Arafangion | I'm good at repetitively hitting middle-c on a piano. |
| 22:43.25 | stoned | nope |
| 22:43.27 | MONO` | ok |
| 22:43.35 | MONO` | brb |
| 22:43.38 | stoned | MONO`: care to join #music |
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| 22:43.47 | rahul | I'm good at repetitively hitting that shit on my bed |
| 22:43.47 | stoned | its highly ot here |
| 22:44.36 | stoned | hey you know who doug stanhope is |
| 22:44.43 | stoned | rahul: his bit on myspace is hilarious |
| 22:44.46 | stoned | google him |
| 22:45.01 | MONO` | so, how do i set all bytes to 0 on /dev/sda? |
| 22:45.08 | rahul | name sounds familiar as the back of my hand |
| 22:45.10 | psnl | MONO`: dd |
| 22:45.12 | stoned | you mean like wipe a drive |
| 22:45.21 | xand | MONO`: dd from /dev/zero if you really want to do that |
| 22:45.39 | MONO` | xand: better way to get rid of that u3 crap? |
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| 22:46.13 | NetEcho | back |
| 22:46.19 | stoned | front |
| 22:46.28 | xand | MONO`: oh, that wont work for that |
| 22:46.38 | MONO` | xand: are you freakin kidding? -.- |
| 22:46.49 | xand | MONO`: well, it might, but i doubt it... there's a removal tool they provide,... for windows |
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| 22:47.13 | xand | MONO`: i guess you can try it... i tried stuff like that and it would't work :S |
| 22:47.13 | MONO` | xand:the one that comes on it don work |
| 22:48.15 | rahul | stoned: can't find whatever bit you're talking about... http://www.myspace.com/stanhope08? |
| 22:48.33 | stoned | no you tool |
| 22:48.40 | abrotman | ever tyhought to /msg him ? |
| 22:48.42 | xand | MONO`: one on their website... google it |
| 22:48.50 | MONO` | ok |
| 22:48.51 | xand | that worked for me |
| 22:48.53 | stoned | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1151824433209586049&q=doug+stanhope&total=99&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 |
| 22:49.09 | rahul | wtf does that have to do with myspace? anyway... |
| 22:49.17 | rahul | oh ho |
| 22:49.25 | stoned | yeh |
| 22:49.28 | stoned | you tool |
| 22:49.56 | xand | myemospace |
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| 22:50.16 | stoned | rahul: this is the bomb |
| 22:50.24 | rahul | hahaha |
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| 22:52.45 | asarch | Hi everyone, how is it getting along? |
| 22:52.48 | asarch | How's the weather? |
| 22:53.01 | asarch | Do you know the address to use Wikipedia on mobile devices? |
| 22:53.16 | rahul | www.wikipedia.org |
| 22:53.20 | abrotman | asarch: ask #wikipedia ? |
| 22:53.29 | asarch | Nobody answers me :( |
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| 22:53.39 | abrotman | that doesn't mean we would know |
| 22:53.43 | abrotman | maybe search google ? |
| 22:54.47 | daeos | asarch: this is debian, not wikipedia |
| 22:55.42 | asarch | I know |
| 22:55.51 | asarch | I really sorry for that |
| 22:55.54 | daeos | wapedia seems to be it |
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| 22:56.24 | daeos | www.wapedia.org |
| 22:57.34 | asarch | Thanks daeos |
| 22:57.40 | asarch | Thanks to everyone |
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| 22:57.45 | asarch | See you later! |
| 22:57.49 | simonrvn | we're not search engines ;) |
| 22:57.53 | simonrvn | see you |
| 22:57.58 | asarch | I sorry |
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| 22:58.23 | simonrvn | s'ok :) |
| 22:58.32 | rahul | stoned: heh, insane |
| 22:58.33 | asarch | Good luck and keep up the good work and happy hacking!!! |
| 22:58.40 | Rawplayer | hi, are there any security issues known related to the mount --bind option with chroot usage? |
| 22:58.44 | rahul | stoned: my balls hurt I was laughing so hard |
| 22:59.02 | simonrvn | tmi rahul |
| 22:59.09 | rahul | duh |
| 22:59.12 | rahul | that's the point :P |
| 22:59.20 | simonrvn | !lart rahul |
| 22:59.23 | abrotman | jesus .. get a god damned room |
| 22:59.24 | stoned | lol |
| 22:59.27 | rahul | oooooo |
| 22:59.29 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:59.49 | xand | o.O |
| 22:59.55 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 23:00.01 | simonrvn | i knew he'd like it |
| 23:00.04 | rahul | xand: whadyou lookin at! |
| 23:00.12 | Dantix | hi, I want to set a mtu higher than 1500 for use on drbd link between to boxes. But I'm receiving the following eror: SIOCSIFMTU: Invelid argument, what can I do? |
| 23:00.14 | xand | erm.... |
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| 23:00.28 | rahul | Dantix: not set it higher than 1500, heh |
| 23:00.54 | rahul | although that's crazy that you can't... maybe a newer kernel will allow that? or maybe the devs are just lazy, heh |
| 23:00.56 | simonrvn | Dantix: you sure a) you can do that, the hardware supports it b) why? |
| 23:01.34 | rahul | oh wait, drbd doesn't have a separate network driver, does it? |
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| 23:02.03 | rahul | this has nothing to do with drbd... just has to do with the network card, I think |
| 23:02.11 | clahey | So, I'm trying to upgrade and it says that 108 packages have been kept back. |
| 23:02.12 | Dantix | I trying to get my rdbd sync more speedy |
| 23:02.13 | dondelelcaro | and the phyiscal network segment |
| 23:02.17 | GreaseMonkey | erm, how do you set up your boot scripts so it selects eth0/10.1.1.1 as the default gateway? |
| 23:02.24 | dondelelcaro | Dantix: what's the physical network between the machines? |
| 23:02.30 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: man interfaces |
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| 23:02.40 | GreaseMonkey | hmm, i should check that out |
| 23:02.42 | clahey | Can you tell me what this means? Are they manually held back or? |
| 23:02.45 | rahul | yes, you should |
| 23:02.54 | rahul | clahey: might be... might be automatically held back |
| 23:02.55 | yoshio | clahey: try doing a dist-upgrade instead of upgrade |
| 23:02.59 | Dantix | 10.0.0.0/30, rtl8139 / vt6105 |
| 23:03.11 | rahul | clahey: are you upgrading from sarge to etch? |
| 23:03.25 | clahey | rahul: Probably an old etch. |
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| 23:03.28 | clahey | yoshio: Ah, will do. |
| 23:03.36 | yoshio | clahey: for apt-get or aptitude, add "-s" to simulate, to see what apt-get/aptitude wants to try |
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| 23:03.40 | Dantix | dondelelcaro, 10.0.0.0/30, rtl8139 / vt6105 |
| 23:03.41 | rahul | clahey: you probably want to read the etch release notes |
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| 23:05.43 | dondelelcaro | Dantix: you're going to be limited by the maximum ethernet MTU then, which is quite often 1500; that said, if your cards actaully support changing the MTU above 1500, ifconfig will allow you to do so. |
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| 23:07.36 | Dantix | dondelelcaro, right I'll check that, besides mii-tool says: eth1: negociated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok, do you know what means "flow-control"? |
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| 23:08.01 | GreaseMonkey | ok, so how do i set up /etc/network/inferfaces so that it adds entries to the route table? |
| 23:08.09 | simonrvn | 100bT is probably the fastest you'll have there |
| 23:08.19 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: you can only add a default route |
| 23:08.24 | simonrvn | unless you put in some GigE cards in |
| 23:08.27 | rahul | and it should be pretty obvious how from the man page |
| 23:08.38 | GreaseMonkey | so it's gateway... |
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| 23:09.23 | GreaseMonkey | argh balls, it doesn't say it under dhcp. |
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| 23:09.48 | frojnd | hello there |
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| 23:10.07 | ricky | Hi! |
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| 23:16.12 | GreaseMonkey | i guess the anti-Virus worked :D |
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| 23:16.33 | simonrvn | spam bot |
| 23:16.34 | plb | f'ing Time Warnwe |
| 23:16.38 | plb | er...Warner |
| 23:16.44 | ricky | Hehe. |
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| 23:17.11 | clahey | How is aptitude relates to apt-get? |
| 23:17.12 | GreaseMonkey | erm, where's dhclient.conf located? |
| 23:17.19 | clahey | related* |
| 23:17.25 | Jebediah | clahey, aptitude is just a curses frontend to apt |
| 23:17.35 | simonrvn | no it isn't |
| 23:17.41 | plb | My mother in law just moved and not only did they make her put down a new deposit and pay activation fees, but the installer broker her router and tried to convice her she needed to pay for three cables modems for her two PCs and her TiVo each |
| 23:18.20 | simonrvn | what a load of crap. greedy pigs |
| 23:18.30 | GreaseMonkey | where is dhclient.conf located? |
| 23:18.37 | simonrvn | /etc/ |
| 23:18.40 | GreaseMonkey | ok |
| 23:18.53 | Jebediah | /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf perhaps |
| 23:18.56 | Rawplayer | !fhs |
| 23:18.57 | dpkg | hmm... fhs is Unlike Gobolinux or OS X, Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the debian-policy package |
| 23:19.00 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: why doesn't your dhcp server send the default gw? |
| 23:19.01 | plb | I remember when i was younger we had to had the router at my parent's whe they would come over or they would threaten to triple our rate |
| 23:19.06 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: it's configured badly |
| 23:19.19 | Rawplayer | dpkg: tell GreaseMonkey fhs |
| 23:19.32 | jelly-home | !gobolinux |
| 23:19.37 | aleph0 | hello everyone. |
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| 23:19.49 | GreaseMonkey | rahul, it's just that my os doesn't point out that the gateway goes through eth0 |
| 23:19.59 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: that makes no sense |
| 23:20.08 | rahul | gateways go _to_ networks, not through interfaces |
| 23:20.10 | Jebediah | When I load up something like dailykos.com in firefox and move the mouse out of the window it lags horribly. How could I go about figuring out the cause? |
| 23:20.21 | simonrvn | hardly the os, the os just follows what you configured ;) |
| 23:20.25 | rahul | other routing entries indicate how to get to that gw |
| 23:20.33 | GreaseMonkey | Default gateway device: _____ |
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| 23:20.41 | GreaseMonkey | it should be eth0 |
| 23:20.42 | GreaseMonkey | it is now |
| 23:20.42 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: is the gw on the network that eth0 is on? |
| 23:20.43 | jelly-home | rahul: going to networks and going thru i'faces is not exclusive |
| 23:20.46 | GreaseMonkey | it's not at boot though |
| 23:21.00 | rahul | jelly-home: they're configured one or the other way |
| 23:21.06 | aleph0 | I'm in the middle of upgrade hell... I foolishly ran a dist-upgrade to go from sarge to etch and now everything failed. the system won't even boot. (I don't know why - it's a remote system). I can boot into a rescue system and there I can see that no log is written to when I try to boot the system. I tried tinkering...no luck. |
| 23:21.15 | jelly-home | rahul: er, no? |
| 23:21.21 | rahul | jelly-home: er yes |
| 23:21.23 | GreaseMonkey | rahul, yes, but it doesn't do it at boot |
| 23:21.33 | aleph0 | so now I'm trying to install etch on top of th eold system with debootstrap and such... http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 23:21.41 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: then your dhcp server isn't sending down the default gw |
| 23:22.07 | aleph0 | but I run into loads(!) of unmet dep errors and apt won't run from the start.... |
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| 23:22.32 | jelly-home | rahul: a route to a particular network can go thru an interface. I don't get it |
| 23:22.44 | GreaseMonkey | rahul, the gateway is at 10.1.1.1, but for some stupid reason the "route" tables are empty once i've booted it up |
| 23:22.56 | jelly-home | rahul: actually I do, nm |
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| 23:23.08 | aubade | Anything major happen between the version of x.org on stable now testing? |
| 23:23.21 | frojnd | I've downloadedd version debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso 07-Apr-2007 13:30 159M Is this ok for my needs (internet, support for usb to upload from usb...) |
| 23:23.33 | abrotman | uhm .. should be |
| 23:23.38 | stoned | !netinst |
| 23:23.38 | dpkg | somebody said netinst was a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection. see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst If you use a dialup connection, ask me about dialup install. |
| 23:23.43 | GreaseMonkey | hmm, i'll be an arrogant bastard and hack up my init.d scripts |
| 23:24.00 | frojnd | does this version have pppoeconf ? |
| 23:24.02 | stoned | hey |
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| 23:24.12 | stoned | jelly is not the same as jelly-home ? |
| 23:24.19 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: because your dhcp server doesn't send down a netmask? |
| 23:24.21 | rahul | stoned: no |
| 23:24.25 | jelly-home | stoned: it is just the location is changed |
| 23:24.30 | stoned | i thought that jelly-home is jelly, but at home |
| 23:24.35 | rahul | I jiggled him where he's not |
| 23:24.36 | stoned | and jelly when hes not at home |
| 23:24.42 | jelly-home | stoned: you're right |
| 23:24.47 | stoned | ahh |
| 23:24.49 | stoned | see |
| 23:24.53 | GreaseMonkey | rahul: well then how do i override the netmask using ifup's interfaces file? |
| 23:24.54 | stoned | I knew i wasn't goin crazy |
| 23:24.56 | stoned | just stoned |
| 23:24.58 | simonrvn | kinda obvious ;) |
| 23:25.00 | rahul | every play baseball? I'm jiggling em where they aint! |
| 23:25.02 | stoned | hehe |
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| 23:25.06 | rahul | heh |
| 23:25.14 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: easier to fix the dhcp server |
| 23:25.16 | jelly-home | who's on first? |
| 23:25.16 | stoned | heads grow, balls shrink |
| 23:25.21 | stoned | right |
| 23:25.34 | simonrvn | jelly-home: who's turn is it |
| 23:25.36 | stoned | rahul: go on a hunt to find dave stanhopes shows |
| 23:26.00 | GreaseMonkey | rahul, when you say "dhcp server", do you mean here, or at 10.1.1.1? |
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| 23:26.44 | rahul | stoned: google has them all listed |
| 23:26.48 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: huh? |
| 23:26.55 | stoned | rahul: those are bits |
| 23:26.55 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: the dhcp server you are using |
| 23:27.02 | GreaseMonkey | so it's this pc? |
| 23:27.03 | rahul | I'll show you my bits |
| 23:27.08 | rahul | er |
| 23:27.14 | rahul | GreaseMonkey: I'm confused. |
| 23:27.15 | stoned | rahul: he does entire 1+hour long shows, get Acid Bootleg and Deadbeat Hero |
| 23:27.21 | adamonline45 | Is there a more reliable way to download the .iso's than FTP? I'm goin' on like 8 downloads that fail checksum... |
| 23:27.32 | stoned | adamonline45: yeh http |
| 23:27.38 | stoned | adamonline45: torrents or jigdo |
| 23:27.42 | GreaseMonkey | rahul, i think i've got an idea on how to sort it |
| 23:27.46 | cchance | Hey, how can i do daily backups to a network computer? (the whole system) |
| 23:28.01 | adamonline45 | stoned: Alright, I guess it's time to get with the times and get torrent :D |
| 23:28.21 | stoned | adamonline45: in a torrent if 1 piece fails checksum it is dl again |
| 23:28.31 | stoned | torrents are very reliable |
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| 23:28.35 | stoned | albeit a bit slow |
| 23:28.43 | stoned | but debian torrent should be really fast |
| 23:28.49 | deejoe | cchance: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
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| 23:29.02 | adamonline45 | cool, speed is nary a concern... I'm sure it'll beat downloading like 1k times |
| 23:29.07 | adamonline45 | ty |
| 23:29.22 | chuckkh | anyone know why qjackctl needs libresmgr but it's not listed in the repositories? |
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| 23:29.54 | cchance | deejoe, sorry that page can not be displayed |
| 23:30.11 | stoned | 1 |
| 23:30.21 | deejoe | cchance: works for me |
| 23:30.23 | deejoe | sorry. |
| 23:30.24 | capiira | works here |
| 23:30.39 | chuckkh | craziest thing, suddenly qjackctl doesn't open |
| 23:30.39 | adamonline45 | Can anyone recommend a good bittorrent client that's available on Mac and Linux, and w/ winxp binaries? |
| 23:30.53 | chuckkh | and it says it wants libresmgr |
| 23:30.56 | deejoe | cchance: alternately, google rubel rsync |
| 23:30.57 | capiira | Easy Automated Snapshot-Style Backups with Linux and Rsync is the title |
| 23:30.59 | cchance | deejoe, sorry my isp had a clog up its going now |
| 23:31.00 | stoned | the official torrent client |
| 23:31.04 | chuckkh | which is not to be found in the Debian repositories |
| 23:31.41 | jelly-home | adamonline45: since you said "good", I can't say "azureus" |
| 23:31.47 | adamonline45 | I'll keep that in mind, jelly |
| 23:31.52 | chuckkh | are their packages needed by Debian repository packages that aren't in the repositories? |
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| 23:32.01 | regulate | chuckkh: reinstall it ? |
| 23:32.03 | chuckkh | actually I know the answer to that |
| 23:32.09 | chuckkh | regulate: did 2ce |
| 23:32.11 | jelly-home | adamonline45: it's a java app, gobs lots of memory, but it works. |
| 23:32.30 | stoned | 2ce? |
| 23:32.37 | stoned | !2ce |
| 23:32.39 | chuckkh | stoned: twice |
| 23:32.40 | regulate | chuckkh: i'm looking at apt-cache show qjackctl , doesn't say anything about libresmgr |
| 23:32.44 | stoned | oh my god |
| 23:32.48 | stoned | dude just type the fucking word |
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| 23:33.04 | chuckkh | stoned: relax |
| 23:33.11 | regulate | rlx |
| 23:33.12 | stoned | you save two keystrokes and make everyone else work hard to figure out wtf you're talking about |
| 23:33.14 | chuckkh | regulate: why would it say that when I run it |
| 23:33.30 | chuckkh | stoned: ur the only one |
| 23:33.41 | aleph0 | when I run debootstrap it ends on the note |
| 23:33.42 | aleph0 | W: Failure while configuring required packages. |
| 23:33.43 | jelly-home | chuckkh: he's not |
| 23:33.45 | stoned | not really, I'm the only one who spoke up |
| 23:33.48 | chuckkh | my bad |
| 23:33.50 | chuckkh | TWICE |
| 23:33.54 | chuckkh | 2x |
| 23:33.54 | deejoe | I just ignored it |
| 23:33.55 | aleph0 | any ideas what I can look at? |
| 23:34.14 | deejoe | aleph0: you're running debootstrap as root? |
| 23:34.23 | deejoe | what are you using as the rescue system? |
| 23:34.36 | deejoe | eg, knoppix will mount a partition as nodev |
| 23:34.37 | chuckkh | error while loading shared libraries |
| 23:34.43 | aleph0 | yes. from a rescue system |
| 23:34.46 | deejoe | so you have to mount -odev,remount /mnt/foo |
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| 23:35.09 | aleph0 | it's one provided by my hosting provider.... no idea. a minimalist unix system |
| 23:35.12 | chuckkh | but whatever is making it look for libresmgr doesn't go away when I reinstall twice |
| 23:35.15 | stoned | judge joe brown |
| 23:35.18 | chuckkh | maybe if I reinstall thrice |
| 23:35.53 | frojnd | is the command for reset keyboard mouse and monitro in debian the same as in ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserer-xorg ? |
| 23:36.05 | stoned | reset? sure |
| 23:36.11 | frojnd | k |
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| 23:36.29 | jelly-home | chuckkh: maybe you could look into the reason it looks for a nonexisting package, instead of trying to reinstall in vain |
| 23:36.32 | frojnd | well back to the primitive I say |
| 23:36.39 | aleph0 | deejoe: it seems to fail upon configuring debconf |
| 23:36.41 | MONO` | hey everyone |
| 23:36.55 | jelly-home | chuckkh: like, conflicting repositories in your sources.list |
| 23:36.56 | aleph0 | and I'm unsure how to proceed... |
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| 23:37.16 | chuckkh | jelly-home: none of them |
| 23:37.18 | jelly-home | chuckkh: mixing different debian releases, that sort of thing |
| 23:37.20 | chuckkh | checked |
| 23:37.36 | chuckkh | well I took 1 or 2 packages from sid, but it's been removed from the list |
| 23:37.39 | regulate | what version of qjackctl |
| 23:37.48 | jelly-home | chuckkh: see, that's a possible cause |
| 23:38.05 | chuckkh | ay caramba |
| 23:38.20 | chuckkh | vs. 0.2.21-1 |
| 23:38.20 | jelly-home | chuckkh: esp. if any of those had a shared dependency with the package you're trying to install now |
| 23:38.21 | cchance | why cant i access my webserver via a wifi enabled computer? |
| 23:38.29 | cchance | its on my network |
| 23:38.46 | chuckkh | jelly-home: reinstall linux? |
| 23:38.55 | plb | http://digg.com/offbeat_news/F_ing_Time_Warner_Roadrunner |
| 23:38.56 | jelly-home | chuckkh: duh, no. |
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| 23:39.12 | chuckkh | jelly-home: if there's something simpler... |
| 23:39.18 | jelly-home | chuckkh: which release are you using now? |
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| 23:39.24 | chuckkh | etch |
| 23:39.51 | jelly-home | chuckkh: uh, and you installed packages from sid? |
| 23:40.00 | chuckkh | I wanted pure data 0.40-2 |
| 23:40.35 | chuckkh | should I have compiled it? |
| 23:40.40 | jelly-home | chuckkh: either go testing full time, or reinstall, and use backports next time instead of sid packages |
| 23:41.08 | chuckkh | reinstall what... |
| 23:41.18 | regulate | dont reinstall |
| 23:41.19 | jelly-home | chuckkh: the OS. |
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| 23:41.21 | chuckkh | ok |
| 23:41.23 | chuckkh | thanks |
| 23:41.46 | chuckkh | will do |
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| 23:41.54 | DawnLight | does anyone know how to share files with windows? i've just made a network with a win2k box |
| 23:41.57 | jelly-home | regulate: there's no simple and consistent way to go from sid back to stable without reinstalling |
| 23:42.13 | RichiH | DawnLight: smaba |
| 23:42.15 | RichiH | samba |
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| 23:42.23 | RichiH | DawnLight: #samba should be able to help |
| 23:43.08 | regulate | jelly-home: true, but doable |
| 23:43.52 | regulate | if his 'few packages' didn't include libc , probably easy |
| 23:44.15 | jelly-home | regulate: yes, and the easiest way do it is to restore a non-disturbed system from backups, or reinstall :-) |
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| 23:45.40 | jelly-home | regulate: if the user has enough knowledge to figure out all the packages needed and do the downgrades by hand, she probably doesn't need to ask here |
| 23:45.44 | regulate | no easiest would be to back out sid packages |
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| 23:47.37 | GreaseMonkey | i've partially found the problem |
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| 23:47.48 | regulate | your brain? |
| 23:48.01 | GreaseMonkey | something must be clearing the route tables after setting up the network or something |
| 23:48.17 | GreaseMonkey | because after boot, i can do: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 23:48.19 | GreaseMonkey | and it works |
| 23:49.02 | cchance | wtf cant i access my server |
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| 23:49.52 | cchance | It keeps going to google |
| 23:50.08 | regulate | you're doing it wrong |
| 23:50.25 | cchance | ip: 192.168.0.5 |
| 23:50.31 | cchance | i put that into the browser |
| 23:50.36 | cchance | it worked before |
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| 23:53.04 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: I haven't seen your previous messages, but do you perhaps have multiple (or none) "gateway" entries in your interfaces file? |
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| 23:53.41 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, no, i'm using /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 23:53.54 | GreaseMonkey | and something's clearing the route tables for some stupid reason |
| 23:54.03 | switchcat | Q: I am attempting to install yahoo messenger for unix from http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php -- this package has a lot of dependencies that are not already installed on my debian-based system so dpkg is failing, and apt-get wants to try to find ymessenger on a remote server, what is a good procedure/the proper command or a good program/interface for installing a locally downloaded package but also getting the remote dependen |
| 23:55.12 | clahey | Does anyone know why when I try to install eclipse, aptitude wants to uninstall xorg, cdrecord, and a bunch of other packages? |
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| 23:55.37 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and `egrep -v '^#|^$' /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf`? |
| 23:55.43 | clahey | Actually, apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove the same packages. Is there something wrong with xserver-xorg? |
| 23:56.04 | juanramb__ | switchcat: use pidgim (gaim) instead of yahoo messenger client |
| 23:56.09 | regulate | switchcat: do dpkg --info package.deb | grep Depends then use apt-get to install those packages |
| 23:56.22 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, i don't think it's that, but ok, if you insist... |
| 23:56.45 | juanramb__ | switchcat: unix client does not have all the yahoo windows client features |
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| 23:56.50 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: well, have you messed with dhclient's config in any way? |
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| 23:57.25 | GreaseMonkey | jelly-home, yes, but that's not the problem |
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| 23:57.34 | switchcat | juan - I dont want to use gaim. |
| 23:57.39 | regulate | GreaseMonkey: the problem is your interfaces file |
| 23:57.42 | ELSEGO | hola people |
| 23:58.08 | GreaseMonkey | regulate, how? i can just do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 - and it's all fine and dandy |
| 23:58.18 | juanramb__ | switchcat: use kopete instead :P |
| 23:58.24 | jelly-home | GreaseMonkey: and if you do /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
| 23:58.25 | switchcat | regulate - so you're saying theres no way to do it automagically? |
| 23:59.02 | regulate | switchcat: not the way you'd want. |
| 23:59.06 | cchance | dang why isnt apache likeing me today whats the conflict here? |
| 23:59.15 | regulate | switchcat: you can almost make it magic-like with some scripting |
| 23:59.29 | juanramb__ | switchcat: I use gaim because I want to have all my messaging on the same program (I'm using msn, gtalk, jabber and yahoo) |
| 23:59.29 | jelly-home | switchcat: you could set up a local apt repository and do apt-get install your-package. |
