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| 00:01.16 | solemnwarning | valdyn: To prevent duplicates? |
| 00:01.23 | valdyn | solemnwarning: unchanged files dont need new checksums |
| 00:01.29 | Azar | valdyn: right... I just remembered now |
| 00:01.40 | \amethyst | valdyn: how do you tell it's unchanged? |
| 00:01.40 | solemnwarning | Can rsync store a list of old checksums? |
| 00:01.45 | valdyn | solemnwarning: using checksum to verify newly created backups makes sense |
| 00:01.59 | valdyn | \amethyst: with the timestamp |
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| 00:03.50 | gholm | can anyone tell me what kernel is shipped in the stable Debian4.0( Etch)? |
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| 00:04.13 | valdyn | solemnwarning: i think what you really want is to backup without checksumming |
| 00:04.32 | valdyn | solemnwarning: and create a checksum _independently_ for each file that you maintain a backup for |
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| 00:06.15 | valdyn | gholm: its based on 2.6.18 |
| 00:06.38 | gholm | valdyn: thanks can't find that info anywhere on debian.org |
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| 00:10.18 | Intensity | Hi. On one machine, I have debian-3.1+backports working just fine, yet when I debootstrap sarge and specify the same sources.list file, I get strange conflicts. For example, on the non-working host, dselect reports udev-0.056-3 is the one that's available (instead of showing the backports version). Any idea why there might be a difference? The backports version is a requirement to install a xen package. |
| 00:11.05 | stoned | Intensity: pin the version you want |
| 00:11.12 | stoned | !tell Intensity -about pinning |
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| 00:11.37 | Intensity | stoned: How come the other sarge system automatically is including a different udev? |
| 00:11.48 | stoned | Intensity: I don't know |
| 00:12.03 | Azar | valdyn: I can't find openbox on woody archives... should I pin to sarge? |
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| 00:12.26 | zinx | Azar: you shouldn't mix releases, if that's what you're asking |
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| 00:13.28 | Intensity | stoned: I think my default settings on freenode might be blocking a message. It's okay; I can read up on pinning. I'm confused why backports wouldn't provide a mechanism to bring in the correct version when it is necessary. |
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| 00:14.19 | Azar | wow no firefox for woody either |
| 00:14.22 | Azar | well hell linkx |
| 00:14.24 | Azar | links |
| 00:14.56 | Innatech | lynx |
| 00:15.16 | Azar | woody was ineed a command-line only |
| 00:15.23 | Intensity | stoned: I'm running apt-get -t sarge-backports install udev. That seems to be a better way to do things than using dselect, as I was doing before. |
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| 00:17.36 | solitude | what debian package do i need for latex support in vim ? |
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| 00:18.32 | grumo | after installation i get a error 15 from grub, i think i have an idea to why this is but i don't know how to fix, any help? |
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| 00:19.31 | stoned | Intensity: yes |
| 00:20.24 | Spyro_boy | Hello. |
| 00:20.36 | Spyro_boy | I've been trying to fix this issue all day but I can't get this to solve. |
| 00:20.38 | Spyro_boy | http://paste.tonybox.net/197 |
| 00:21.00 | Spyro_boy | I just can't dist-upgrade because some packages are screwing up. |
| 00:21.32 | sandman | What group must I add a user to in order to allow it to start an X server? |
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| 00:22.21 | Spyro_boy | Oh wait. |
| 00:22.21 | Spyro_boy | Hrmm... |
| 00:22.37 | Azar | valdyn: will ext2 influence package installations? |
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| 00:26.52 | eddie | the hostname cofig file in CentOS is /etc/sysconfig/network where is this file in debian? |
| 00:27.12 | pipeline | eddie: /etc/hostname and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:27.32 | eddie | the sting i need to use is this. |
| 00:28.12 | eddie | the hostname cofig file in CentOS is /etc/sysconfig/network (cat << EOF NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=${hostname}.${domainname} EOF) > /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 00:28.24 | eddie | so that would just need to in the host file? |
| 00:29.11 | pipeline | I have no idea what you're talking about, eddie. |
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| 00:33.02 | urv | f |
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| 00:36.41 | Vorbote | eddie: the network configuration files are far more simple in Debian (and documented, try doing "man interfaces" for example). |
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| 00:38.44 | stopher | okay, how do I make it so i have full access to /var/www? this "you don't have permission" crap is driving me insane! |
| 00:39.00 | Grell | anyone know how i can make that icon disappear that say "no network connection"? I actually have a working internet connection (obviously) so it shouldnt be there. |
| 00:39.05 | sayers | What is the recommended way of installing Xorg? |
| 00:39.15 | eddie | Vorbote: no its not lol |
| 00:39.45 | eddie | stopher: chmod -R 777 /var/www |
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| 00:41.58 | stopher | yay! thanks eddie :D |
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| 00:42.26 | stopher | eddie: wait wait wait...doesn't that make it writable to any...including on the internet? |
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| 00:43.49 | Grell | chown -R <username>:<group> /var/www |
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| 00:44.10 | stopher | thanks grell |
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| 00:49.03 | sandman | Does anyone know how to run X as a non-root user? |
| 00:50.13 | unlink | what jabber server do people prefer? |
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| 00:51.04 | cafuego | what makes you think people prefer jabber servers? |
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| 00:51.52 | sandman | jabber.org, I thought was standard. |
| 00:52.03 | sandman | But it should also be noted that Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol as well. |
| 00:52.34 | chuck | hi, i want to setup a mailserver in debian, would it be as easy as setting up my mx records to my server or do i have to set it up differently? |
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| 00:53.26 | pipeline | unlink: openfire |
| 00:54.10 | sandman | "X: user not authorized to run the X server" <== anyone know how to fix this? |
| 00:55.10 | valdyn | sandman: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 00:55.43 | sandman | Who are "console" users? |
| 00:55.54 | Vorbote | sandman: make the xserver executable setuid root. That's what valdyn's indication does (but protects you from the ickiness). |
| 00:55.58 | sandman | I don't see a "console" group |
| 00:56.10 | valdyn | sandman: a locally logged in user |
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| 00:56.28 | sandman | Well, I have a locally logged in user. |
| 00:56.29 | valdyn | sandman: ctrl-alt-f1 gets you to one virtual console |
| 00:56.40 | sandman | I see, now. |
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| 00:57.10 | juio | Hi, for to use 'load balancing' using iptables I need to put the ip's this 192.168.1.41-192.168.1.42 or this 192.168.1.41,192.168.1.42? what is the correct way? |
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| 00:59.52 | troythetechguy1 | I want to back up some files from another computer, to the computer with my new debian install. I did this b4 with ubuntu using ssh. Do I have to install ssh server on one computer, and ssh client on the other? |
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| 01:05.07 | troythetechguy1 | If I want to remove some packages that were installed with the meta packages, what's the best way to ensure complete removal? |
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| 01:07.50 | fsteves | How can I have different boot options using append's to the kernel loader (Such as custom appends that will force different boot scenarios) |
| 01:08.06 | vorpal | troythetechguy1: use aptitude to mark the packages as "automatic", and then uninstall the metapackage |
| 01:08.48 | vorpal | troythetechguy1: that is to say, mark the metapackage as automatic, and all the dependencies will be marked similarly |
| 01:08.51 | troythetechguy1 | vorpal, I'm a bit new, is aptitude a gui, or cli command? |
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| 01:09.24 | vorpal | troythetechguy1: it can be used in both ways, however you will want to use the GUI for simplicity |
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| 01:09.51 | chuck | hi, does anyone know of any good tutorials to setup mail server with debian? |
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| 01:10.17 | Azar | stoned, welcome home |
| 01:10.20 | troythetechguy1 | vorpal, I only see synaptic for a package manager, is aptitude something different, or do I have to install it? |
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| 01:10.27 | stoned | thank you |
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| 01:10.37 | sponsz | http://vaniketamer.miniville.fr/ |
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| 01:10.43 | vorpal | fsteves: i recommend grub for that, although you could possibly do it with lilo, as well |
| 01:10.53 | troythetechguy1 | vorpal, Nevermind, I found it. |
| 01:11.06 | chuck | anyone know? |
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| 01:11.29 | SlimG2 | Where do I add the hostname I want dhclient3 to send to the dhcp server? |
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| 01:11.56 | Azar | hehe |
| 01:12.21 | fsteves | vorpal: Question isn't HOW to create the scenario. This will be done in a vesamenu based SYSLINUX boot, but how do I make the OS react to the different append statements |
| 01:13.08 | fsteves | say I want something like... loadssh : That would run sshd, which wouldnt be run by default (Or a custom script in /bin that will execute the scenario) |
| 01:13.09 | vorpal | fsteves, mind you, that you can specify kernel parameters manually at the boot prompt with both grub and lilo |
| 01:13.11 | fsteves | What hooks that |
| 01:13.19 | fsteves | vorpal: As with syslinux |
| 01:13.30 | sandman | If I want an X app to spawn in my second X server (@:1), should I set $DISPLAY to ":1.0" or to ":1.1" ? |
| 01:13.35 | fsteves | vorpal: I prefer it for my live distro im working on |
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| 01:13.57 | vorpal | fsteves: sounds like you want to use run levels |
| 01:14.31 | fsteves | vorpal: What hooks into the kernel append |
| 01:14.47 | vorpal | fsteves: use a standard run level, or customize your own |
| 01:15.39 | vorpal | fsteves: i think "init <runlevel>" or "level <runleve>" is what you want, but you better verify that |
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| 01:18.48 | vorpal | fsteves: assuming your kernel source is in the "Standard" location, see:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
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| 01:19.29 | stopher | I installed gallery2 in aptitude as part of debian, does anyone know how to configure this? |
| 01:20.52 | dondelelcaro | stopher: see /usr/share/doc/gallery2/*; |
| 01:22.45 | SlimG2 | Where do I add the hostname I want dhclient3 to send to the dhcp server? |
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| 01:26.37 | dondelelcaro | SlimG2: in /etc/network/interfaces; man 5 interfaces; for details |
| 01:27.43 | stopher | where is library/sqlconf.php located? |
| 01:28.04 | dondelelcaro | stopher: dpkg -L gallery2; |
| 01:28.22 | stopher | dondelelcaro" thanks |
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| 01:31.34 | grumo | while installing the main hd is called /dev/sdc but when i try to first boot it becomes /dev/sda and i think this is causing a grub error 15, how can i fix this? |
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| 01:34.34 | SlimG2 | dondelelcaro: Can't figure out howto add hostname to interfaces file, could you help me? tried adding: hostname <hostname> |
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| 01:38.00 | Spyro_boy | Alright. |
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| 01:38.24 | daeos | how do i kill a zombie process? screen became a zombie after i lost connection via ssh |
| 01:38.32 | Spyro_boy | I can't friggin figure this out. Can SOMEONE help me resolve this issue? http://paste.tonybox.net/200 |
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| 01:39.14 | level1 | Hi, should programs like kaffine, kplayer, kmplayer etc be in the repositories? |
| 01:39.51 | level1 | nevermind |
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| 01:40.35 | stopher | what is the code for writable for server? |
| 01:41.12 | ampex | anyone know if etch will do RAID 10 during install? |
| 01:41.29 | robboplus | nice q :) |
| 01:43.25 | ampex | robboplus: mine? |
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| 01:46.26 | daeos | again..... is it possible to kill a zombie process? |
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| 01:47.11 | chuck | daeos: ps aux to find the pid and then kill -9 <thepid>? |
| 01:47.20 | daeos | did |
| 01:47.24 | daeos | still there |
| 01:47.28 | level1 | what packages do I need for proprietary media playback, like windows media? win32 codecs, but whats the package? |
| 01:47.54 | daeos | chuck: yeah i did that before asking here |
| 01:48.15 | chuck | kill -TERM <thepid>? |
| 01:48.47 | level1 | is there a good repository for this kind of stuff? |
| 01:48.52 | level1 | !wma |
| 01:48.52 | dpkg | wma is probably windows media audio file or something of that nature (proprietary Microsoft lossy audio codec), which sucks because I apt say so, or you can play it with vlc (Sarge) or mplayer |
| 01:49.12 | level1 | !win32 |
| 01:49.12 | dpkg | i heard win32 is http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 01:49.30 | daeos | chuck: didn't work |
| 01:49.32 | SlimG2 | level1: If I've not misinterpreted your question: w32codecs |
| 01:50.11 | SlimG2 | level1: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 01:51.55 | daeos | chuck: any other suggestions? |
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| 01:53.10 | chuck | well, kill -QUIT <pid>, or kill -KILL <pid>, idk |
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| 01:54.06 | timma | I did netstat -anp | grep ":69 " and had two lines of results then swapped tftp-hda for atftp then back to tftp-hda and now no results |
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| 01:56.18 | SlimG2 | I can't figure out howto add hostname to interfaces file, could anyone help me? tried adding: hostname <hostname> |
| 01:57.46 | dererk | SlimG2, it's "hostname" inside /etc/hostname :) |
| 01:57.56 | dererk | SlimG2, then do a hostname -F /etc/hostname |
| 02:00.32 | robboplus | is there a way to make cron run a task every 15s? |
| 02:00.44 | robboplus | all i can find is 60s |
| 02:01.50 | daeos | chuck: didn't work :( |
| 02:02.14 | chuck | what process is this? |
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| 02:03.31 | SlimG2 | dererk: the hostname inside /etc/hostname is already correctly set, I've managed to manually write the hostname into /etc/dhclient3/dhclient.conf althou I would prefer dhclient to send the $HOSTNAME variable |
| 02:04.46 | daeos | screen |
| 02:05.07 | daeos | chuck: screen is what is zombie now |
| 02:05.18 | chuck | hrm |
| 02:06.30 | MangosDebian | robboplus: make a script that sleeps for 15 seconds, then backgrounds a command and sleeps again and quits at the 3rd run. setup cron for 1minute? |
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| 02:07.19 | MangosDebian | hey guys, what kind of daily hits are you seeing for tcp 3724? |
| 02:07.46 | fsteves | What watches for settings passed via append in GRUB (i.e. vga=XXX, if I wanted test=true) and then to act on it from there |
| 02:09.17 | MangosDebian | fsteves: initrd scripts you mean? |
| 02:09.40 | MangosDebian | fsteves: althought you can check that anytime really via /proc/cmdline |
| 02:11.45 | daeos | so, anyone else can tell me how to kill a zombie process? i've tried everythig that chuck has suggested and still the screen process will not die |
| 02:12.01 | MangosDebian | daeos: feed it braaaaaains |
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| 02:12.11 | MangosDebian | :) |
| 02:12.28 | chuck | daeos: do this command: screen -xR |
| 02:12.33 | chuck | then use the exit command |
| 02:12.37 | MangosDebian | daeos: i assume you cant attach to it still? |
| 02:12.43 | chuck | until it says [screen terminated] |
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| 02:13.32 | MangosDebian | !defunct |
| 02:13.32 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 02:13.36 | level1 | how do I get flash video to work with konqueror? |
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| 02:13.50 | daeos | ha ignore it |
| 02:13.52 | daeos | ok then |
| 02:13.55 | daeos | not really using stuff |
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| 02:14.16 | MangosDebian | daeos: if you ps xaf, try kill all the sub proc's of screen first |
| 02:14.18 | daeos | and killing screen won't help me, (exit rather) won't help me as im using screen again, after i was kicked from ssh |
| 02:14.40 | MangosDebian | daeos: not something that I have to deal with often, but I do recall being able to kill it on an occassion or two |
| 02:15.22 | unlink | i'm getting the following in my jabber server error log when i try to connect with pidgin: mio_ssl.c:169 Error from SSL: error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol |
| 02:15.36 | unlink | this usually happens when a client tries to connect to an ssl service but doesn't think it's ssl (i.e. it's sending garbage) |
| 02:16.04 | daeos | MangosDebian: that ps xaf shows me what i need.... |
| 02:16.14 | daeos | MangosDebian: i hope it doesn't kill my screen sessions |
| 02:16.41 | MangosDebian | daeos: well, your current should be obvious. it will have your "ps xaf" command beneath it |
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| 02:16.58 | daeos | MangosDebian: yea, its very obvious... |
| 02:17.18 | MangosDebian | daeos: the one you are looking for will have a small PID compared to current session (unless you use grsec pid random of course) |
| 02:17.39 | daeos | MangosDebian: do you know if grep can look for a range? like pids 3000 to 4000 ? |
| 02:17.51 | MangosDebian | regex i suppose |
| 02:18.08 | MangosDebian | like [34]000 |
| 02:18.19 | MangosDebian | err, thats not a range though, nm |
| 02:18.27 | MangosDebian | ;) |
| 02:18.44 | daeos | hm |
| 02:18.53 | daeos | i doubt that will work.. doesn't look like it will |
| 02:19.06 | MangosDebian | no it wont |
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| 02:21.47 | StR | how do i installed adobe flash |
| 02:21.47 | StR | ? |
| 02:21.55 | daeos | got it |
| 02:22.06 | daeos | 3856 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ screen |
| 02:22.14 | daeos | 3857 ? Zs 0:00 | \_ [screen] <defunct> |
| 02:22.18 | daeos | there |
| 02:22.20 | daeos | 3856 |
| 02:22.32 | daeos | killed 3856, which then killed the zombie |
| 02:22.40 | daeos | and im still here ;) |
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| 02:23.13 | dmilith | defunct cannot be killed ;} |
| 02:23.19 | dmilith | you need to kill parents |
| 02:23.22 | dmilith | daeos: |
| 02:23.22 | daeos | yep |
| 02:23.29 | daeos | dmilith: did so |
| 02:23.41 | daeos | StR: depends, are you trying to install for a webbrowser? |
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| 02:23.56 | dmilith | StR: question.. what for? |
| 02:23.57 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.58 | StR | yeah daeos |
| 02:24.04 | Azar | I bet etch is bigger |
| 02:24.13 | daeos | StR: which browser? |
| 02:24.15 | dmilith | Azar: but better than sarge |
| 02:24.17 | StR | Mozilla |
| 02:24.29 | Azar | dmilith: depends |
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| 02:24.49 | dmilith | Azar: may be slower on old systems.. true |
| 02:25.07 | dmilith | Azar: but i have had less problems with etch than sarge |
| 02:25.13 | Azar | dmilith: I ment depends of one's needs |
| 02:25.21 | dmilith | Azar: agree |
| 02:25.21 | StR | daeos, yeah for mozilla |
| 02:25.41 | dmilith | imho kpdf is great ;} |
| 02:25.43 | Azar | I only upgrade to sarge because I need scsi support |
| 02:26.42 | daeos | StR: then go to the macromedia site, and it will give you a link to the mozilla iceweasel version |
| 02:27.01 | daeos | StR: then just install the script (run the script) |
| 02:27.51 | dmilith | daeos: maybe You know if acrobat still has problems on amd64 x64 based systems? |
| 02:27.59 | dmilith | if/is |
| 02:28.36 | dmilith | i couldn't run it on my x64 debian |
| 02:28.51 | MangosDebian | daeos: you end up being able to kill the process ok? |
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| 02:29.12 | tuxx | hi guys |
| 02:29.26 | tuxx | i'm ssh tunneling using the following command: ssh -l tuxx -R 7777:localhost:22 arpspoof.org -Nf |
| 02:29.42 | tuxx | when i then try to connect to that computer i get: |
| 02:29.42 | tuxx | tuxx@arpspoof:~$ ssh -p 7777 localhost |
| 02:29.42 | tuxx | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 02:29.43 | daeos | MangosDebian: yep i was able to |
| 02:29.48 | tuxx | does anyone know what that means? |
| 02:29.53 | tuxx | or how it can be fixed? |
| 02:30.04 | chuck | does anyone know of a good tutorial for setting up a debian mailserver |
| 02:30.09 | dmilith | tuxx: sshd config |
| 02:30.09 | tuxx | it was working perfectly |
| 02:30.10 | daeos | dmilith: i've not heard anything about it |
| 02:30.11 | MangosDebian | daeos: ahhh shucks. Was waiting for you to timeout of irc after killing your current screen ;p |
| 02:30.17 | daeos | MangosDebian: haha |
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| 02:30.24 | daeos | MangosDebian: i'll show you again |
| 02:30.29 | tuxx | dmilith: what should i change? |
| 02:30.38 | daeos | MangosDebian: 3856 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ screen |
| 02:30.46 | daeos | MangosDebian: 3857 ? Zs 0:00 | \_ [screen] <defunct> |
| 02:30.49 | dmilith | tuxx: paste on debian.paste.net your config on remote machine |
| 02:30.53 | daeos | i just killed 3856 |
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| 02:31.09 | daeos | and it killed the defunct for me |
| 02:31.20 | tuxx | dmilith: hmm i dont think my remote machine is at fault cause it works on another computer via the same remote computer |
| 02:31.33 | tuxx | it seems debian.paste.net is down |
| 02:31.43 | MangosDebian | daeos: well, least it worked. although I am kinda surprised that you got problems during a disconnect to begin with. Kinda the whole reason for screen |
| 02:32.01 | chuck | tuxx: http://dump.unixpod.com/ |
| 02:32.16 | daeos | MangosDebian: yeah, well... i tend to lose my ssh session, unless im in something like irc or using bmon... creating constant in/out flow |
| 02:32.50 | timma | how do I check services running and add one? |
| 02:32.54 | daeos | MangosDebian: wish there was a setting i could change to stop it from kicking me |
| 02:33.21 | grew | so is pidgin broken in sid? I get this when i try to install: pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (< 2.0.1-z) but 2.0.2-1 is to be installed |
| 02:33.23 | MangosDebian | daeos: sysctl has many. but I dont know if its the kernel or ssh in this case thats timeing you out |
| 02:33.36 | daeos | timma: top, ps, both can show you current daemons running, and depending on what package you are wanting to run will support daemon mode |
| 02:33.48 | MangosDebian | daeos: keepalive related most likely |
| 02:34.00 | daeos | MangosDebian: maybe not pUTTY either eh? |
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| 02:34.15 | timma | daeos is there a command like chkconfig? |
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| 02:34.28 | MangosDebian | daeos: well, could be windows as well. you just need to log the tcp flow and catch the RST |
| 02:34.38 | MangosDebian | at least see who sends it anyways |
| 02:34.59 | timma | how do I open up a port then? |
| 02:35.01 | daeos | MangosDebian: guess i shouldn't worry then... im at work ;) |
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| 02:35.44 | acu | I am trying to make php4 work on apache2 - so far it does not recognize the .php files (it ask me wheteher I want to download them) |
| 02:35.52 | MangosDebian | daeos: ya, can't see it being that big of a deal. But I suspect either windows, router or linux before I suspect ssh itself |
| 02:36.08 | daeos | MangosDebian: when im at home, ssh dones't disco me |
| 02:36.12 | daeos | doesn't* |
| 02:36.26 | chuck | acu: did you do: a2enmod php4 (or w/e the php4 module is called) |
| 02:36.36 | MangosDebian | of course a router nating will appear to be source if its router or windows fault. so logging at both ends would be required in that case |
| 02:37.08 | daeos | MangosDebian: im thinking it might be my work ;) they don't like ssh im sure |
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| 02:37.36 | grew | acu: ask in #apache |
| 02:37.41 | MangosDebian | daeos: its probably the router/gw and its probably not intentional or you wouldnt be able to ssh at all :) |
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| 02:38.30 | enouf | timma: /msg dpkg update-rc.d {services, runlevel, rcconf} one at a time .. no, there's no chkconfig type thing or whatever, services are started/restarted/stopped using a simple /etc/init.d/SNN<servicename> start ..etc |
| 02:38.33 | acu | chuck: let me try - I had it before working with php5 but you are right I did not a2enmod php4 - let me do it know - thanks |
| 02:38.45 | chuck | ok |
| 02:38.55 | enouf | !customer |
| 02:38.55 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 02:39.13 | chuck | !customer |
| 02:39.13 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 02:39.19 | chuck | !ops |
| 02:39.19 | dpkg | Please invoke '!ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 02:39.27 | chuck | !ops OH NOEZ |
| 02:39.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: chuck complains about: OH NOEZ |
| 02:39.32 | enouf | chuck: no necessito .. what are you doing? |
| 02:39.38 | MangosDebian | thats one way of leaving.... |
| 02:39.38 | chuck | woops |
| 02:39.40 | MangosDebian | cya elvis |
| 02:39.43 | MangosDebian | ;) |
| 02:41.07 | Pencil | hey, so i have my box connected to my windows pc, and i have my windows pc providing the debian box internet |
| 02:41.16 | Pencil | how would other people connect to my debian box? |
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| 02:41.37 | MangosDebian | the internet would be my first guess |
| 02:41.48 | Pencil | yeah, but they can't access my debian box. |
| 02:41.53 | Pencil | i connected it to my windows pc. |
| 02:42.26 | Pencil | I can connect to it just fine using 192.168.0.192 |
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| 02:42.36 | Pencil | but how would other people connect to it? |
| 02:42.58 | tuxx | dmilith: http://dump.unixpod.com/?show=m54308155 |
| 02:43.19 | tuxx | dmilith: strangely it works from another server to this one but not from two other servers on which it used to work |
| 02:43.23 | daeos | Pencil: might i suggest using a router? |
| 02:43.29 | dashs | Process to download mpeg4 video via USB? |
| 02:43.34 | Pencil | yeah my router is out of ports daeos |
| 02:43.37 | acu | chuck: thanks it worked a2enmod php4 |
| 02:43.50 | daeos | Pencil: get a switch |
| 02:43.53 | chuck | acu: no problem |
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| 02:43.56 | Pencil | its temporary. |
| 02:43.56 | daeos | Pencil: and chain it off the router |
| 02:44.05 | Pencil | i threw my switch away |
| 02:44.07 | daeos | Pencil: you'd have to port forward off the pc |
| 02:44.11 | Pencil | how would i do that daeos |
| 02:44.17 | MangosDebian | daeos: don't both |
| 02:44.19 | MangosDebian | er |
| 02:45.07 | daeos | Pencil: im sure if you had windoz 2k as or windoz 2k3 you might be able to do that |
| 02:45.14 | Pencil | shoot |
| 02:45.15 | daeos | Pencil: but not in windows xp unless you got special software |
| 02:45.23 | Pencil | yeah i figured id need special software |
| 02:45.24 | Pencil | but this is debian |
| 02:45.28 | Pencil | so i doubt anyone would know |
| 02:45.33 | MangosDebian | falls under the "Hi, I just bought a computer! But I can't install $DISTRO on it. I has no cdrom, no usb, no cdrom, no floppy and no network. Whats the easiest way to install $DISTRO? And removing the hard drive isn't an option." catagory |
| 02:45.36 | daeos | Pencil: and off topic |
| 02:45.45 | Pencil | yeah |
| 02:45.48 | Pencil | i dont wanna be off topic |
| 02:45.50 | daeos | Pencil: just get a switch |
| 02:45.56 | Pencil | psh no stores are open at thi stime. |
| 02:46.03 | Pencil | and im turning in the box to my friend tommarow. |
| 02:46.07 | MangosDebian | daeos: stop feeding the trolls :) |
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| 02:46.23 | daeos | Pencil: tough luck then |
| 02:46.47 | chuck | daeos: again, stop feeding the trolls |
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| 02:47.38 | tuxx | dmilith: any idea? |
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| 02:49.24 | Pencil | ge' |
| 02:49.24 | Pencil | hey |
| 02:49.36 | Pencil | how do i allow debian to give me internet access on my windows box? |
| 02:49.41 | Pencil | ive decided to do things vice versa |
| 02:49.50 | Pencil | what i need is to get my debian box to provide internet to my windows computer |
| 02:49.59 | Pencil | any idea? |
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| 02:50.14 | MangosDebian | daeos: I almost think I figured out the algo they use too. Something like: for k in `cat valid.solution.txt`;do echo "No, I tried $k, that doesn't work.";done |
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| 02:51.29 | robboplus | MangosDebian that's right about that script... i just thought that it was possible to tweak cron itself a bit :) |
| 02:51.53 | MangosDebian | daeos: and toss in a: if $VALID_SOLUTION_FOUND then { print "Sorry, I gotta go, my (wife|kid|dog|dinner) is calling." } ;) |
| 02:52.00 | daeos | MangosDebian: k |
| 02:52.26 | MangosDebian | robboplus: nah, 1minute granularity is all its ever used to my knowledge |
| 02:52.29 | daeos | MangosDebian: haha |
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| 02:52.43 | sean__ | excuse me can someone tell me what might be wrong if the installer appears to freeze after downloading the last package to install |
| 02:53.14 | daeos | MangosDebian: didn't i just answer his question? |
| 02:53.44 | MangosDebian | daeos: its even funnier when a troll tries to redefine the meaning of one as well in an attempt to confuse you. They will typically argue it to the death as well. Very clever creatures they are. |
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| 02:54.23 | daeos | i'll just complain to ops then about him |
| 02:54.30 | MangosDebian | daeos: "Veeeerrry daaaangerous animals. Criiiiky!" :) |
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| 02:55.28 | MangosDebian | daeos: don't bother. A good troll will phrase their questions in a manner which cannot be proved to has hostile intent, which is what makes a troll so dangerous and clever in the first place |
| 02:55.57 | MangosDebian | i seen an episode on discovery channel once. Very good watch :) |
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| 02:56.24 | MangosDebian | heh anyways :p |
| 02:56.26 | mosno | hrm, mouse2 in gaim chat input field causes gaim to just crash with no dialog. on Etch. anyone seen this? |
| 02:56.34 | mosno | ie. paste from selection |
| 02:56.58 | mosno | the 'from' app was non-debian, so i guess it's not a debian problem? |
| 02:57.05 | mosno | (skype 1.4 beta) |
| 02:57.14 | daeos | haha |
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| 02:58.04 | daeos | mosno: see if pidgeon is out , and try that... don't think gaim is available to etch anymore... i might be wrong |
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| 02:59.03 | Pencil | hey what ports does apache use by default |
| 02:59.23 | daeos | Pencil: ask #apache |
| 02:59.37 | Pencil | 80 right |
| 02:59.38 | Pencil | gotcha. |
| 03:00.02 | daeos | MangosDebian: this guy is a bot |
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| 03:03.50 | chuck | yeah |
| 03:04.02 | perf3kt | is wget a command for debian? |
| 03:04.15 | chuck | i would say "no shit sherlock" but i'm not sure if this channel has an anti-swearing policy |
| 03:04.31 | perf3kt | chuck: was that for me? |
| 03:04.34 | chuck | no |
| 03:04.39 | perf3kt | oh okay |
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| 03:04.53 | kosen | ice weasel does not allow me to set proxy server, not via 'Preference'. how to do it? |
| 03:05.03 | chuck | perf3kt: and yes, you can install wget in debian but it's only in debian |
| 03:05.08 | chuck | apt-get install wget |
| 03:05.17 | chuck | if it's not installed already |
| 03:05.44 | daeos | chuck: i *know* that was for me |
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| 03:08.08 | StR | hey how do i installed this libraries "/seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: |
| 03:08.13 | kosen | in fact, ice weasel does not provide user to set any server. why is it so? |
| 03:09.08 | StR | how do i get that librery? |
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| 03:11.21 | tuxx | hey guys when doing an ssh tunnel with the following command: ssh -l tuxx -R 7777:localhost:22 remotehost -Nf |
| 03:11.27 | Azar | on aptitude update what could be: Temporary failure resolving 'mirrors.kernel.org' ? |
| 03:11.33 | tuxx | and then sshing to remotehost with: ssh -p 7777 remotehost |
| 03:11.35 | Azar | my dns maybe lost |
| 03:11.59 | tuxx | i get the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 03:12.05 | tuxx | does anyone know what that is caused by? |
| 03:12.11 | tuxx | its funny because some hosts work while others done |
| 03:12.12 | tuxx | dont |
| 03:12.24 | tuxx | so i guess my sshd of the remotehost should be configured ok |
| 03:13.35 | Azar | how can I fix my connection honorables? |
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| 03:16.06 | simonrvn | fix dns, and done. /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 03:16.52 | Azar | simonrvn: everything looks be in place |
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| 03:17.15 | Azar | aptitude update or apt-get update don't work... on this PC works, on the other one no |
| 03:17.46 | simonrvn | well it isn't since it's not working. check if your forwarding is working |
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| 03:18.15 | Azar | damn im gonna kill those guys! no connection |
| 03:18.22 | Azar | everything is setup ok |
| 03:18.35 | Azar | google no connection |
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| 03:19.58 | Azar | ok simonrvn I just did an upgrade from woody to sarge...worked, then upgraded the kernel, worked, now after reboot no connection! |
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| 03:20.24 | Azar | uh |
| 03:20.26 | simonrvn | check routes, if interfaces are up |
| 03:20.28 | Azar | maybe I need to ifup |
| 03:20.44 | Azar | I rebooted I will ifup |
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| 03:22.35 | Azar | eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 03:22.39 | Azar | at bootup |
| 03:22.53 | gonzaloaf | Hi, how can I downgrade amarok to the previous version? I use lenny and I have updated alll my packages 2 days ago, and amarok works very bad |
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| 03:25.46 | simonrvn | Azar: well, that's why |
| 03:25.48 | Azar | simonrvn: ifup don't seem to work |
| 03:25.55 | simonrvn | interface didn't come up |
| 03:26.06 | simonrvn | you need to look at why |
| 03:26.06 | Azar | simonrvn: how can I start |
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| 03:26.31 | simonrvn | support for the NIC or whatever |
| 03:26.46 | Rusty1_ | Azar: does lspci show the nic? |
| 03:27.20 | Azar | I guess because it did: Cleaning up ifupdown...done ? |
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| 03:27.49 | Azar | Rusty1_: it worked until I upgraded the kernel... when I rebooted.. no connection |
| 03:28.30 | Azar | got a bunch of packages not installed yet |
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| 03:28.59 | Azar | if I can't bring the interfaces back up, I will need to start over and reinstall, upgrade |
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| 03:29.49 | simonrvn | AljosHa: what is it about? |
| 03:30.08 | AljosHa | not about debian |
| 03:30.16 | Rusty1_ | Azar: maybe, maybe not , does lspci see your nic? |
| 03:30.37 | Azar | what is the command to restart interfaces? |
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| 03:31.15 | simonrvn | i've had a long weekend... as is i didn't really want to get involved in anything taking a while |
| 03:31.54 | DocPlatypus | Azar: try rebooting under the old kernel |
| 03:31.58 | Azar | Rusty1_: yes it sees it, how do I bring eth0 back up? |
| 03:32.00 | DocPlatypus | and/or do a cold reboot |
| 03:32.06 | AljosHa | just asking how to make spoof like you |
| 03:32.08 | AljosHa | for host |
| 03:32.09 | AljosHa | here |
| 03:32.09 | DocPlatypus | some hardware really hates warm reboots with a passion |
| 03:32.30 | DocPlatypus | some Windows drivers also do not play nice with Linux, the kernel |
| 03:32.37 | Rusty1_ | Azar: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 03:32.45 | DocPlatypus | or for that matter anything besides Windows |
| 03:33.08 | simonrvn | AljosHa: you'd have to ask the irc network staff about that. see their page on it in their FAQ, http://freenode.net/ |
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| 03:35.26 | Azar | DocPlatypus: you mean comment the new one, uncomment the Old one, run lilo and reboot? |
| 03:35.27 | stoned | haha |
| 03:35.30 | stoned | Al josha |
| 03:35.30 | stoned | lol |
| 03:35.40 | stoned | Al stoned a |
| 03:35.42 | stoned | haha :) |
| 03:35.45 | DocPlatypus | Azar: if you're using lilo, I guess that's what you've got to do |
| 03:35.55 | DocPlatypus | but why would anyone use lilo when there is grub? |
| 03:36.02 | Azar | ok because my eth0 is totally dead |
| 03:36.17 | stoned | ouch |
| 03:36.19 | Azar | DocPlatypus: if it were grub I'd be dead by now.. |
| 03:36.29 | DocPlatypus | why? |
| 03:36.37 | stoned | Azar: buy a new eth1 |
| 03:36.41 | AljosHa | :) |
| 03:36.54 | Rusty1_ | Azar: does it show up with: ifconfig |
| 03:37.07 | stoned | al debian-ul-azeem |
| 03:37.13 | stoned | wallahe |
| 03:37.14 | stoned | hehe |
| 03:37.26 | Azar | wait a second... in my lilo.conf "both" images are uncommented.. |
| 03:37.28 | stoned | that means debian is great |
| 03:37.31 | stoned | in arabic |
| 03:38.20 | stoned | no wait |
| 03:38.25 | stoned | i think it means something else |
| 03:38.38 | stoned | al debian-ul-azeem means debian is the GREATEST! |
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| 03:39.37 | level1 | Hi, how can I upgrade a stable/etch system to testing? |
| 03:40.17 | DocPlatypus | level1: put the appropriate lines in sources.list, aptitude update, upgrade all the packages, and pray nothing critical breaks |
| 03:40.38 | level1 | DocPlatypus: I'm not a very religious person |
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| 03:40.54 | grumo | while installing the main hd is called /dev/sdc but when i try to first boot it becomes /dev/sda and i think this is causing a grub error 15, how can i fix this? |
| 03:41.02 | DocPlatypus | or cast your witchcraft spell, cross fingers, grab rabbit's foot... etc |
| 03:41.06 | syntaxx | im having a little problem in phpldapadmin it doesnt show the tree in the left pane.. anyone know how to fix this? |
| 03:41.07 | BillyBeans | hey does anyone in head use "MUTT", to check their mail?? |
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| 03:43.25 | DawnLight | i have here a mobo with what seems to be a very confused bios. i don't know if i can get it to boot up a floppy. is there another way to flash the bios? |
| 03:43.29 | ampex | why is it that during etch install if you back out to the installer components menu, it no longer installs grub, but wants to install lilo later during the install process? |
| 03:43.46 | DocPlatypus | ampex: good question. file a bug against the installer |
| 03:43.47 | DawnLight | i prefer grub |
| 03:43.56 | ampex | DocPlatypus: is it a known bug? |
| 03:44.03 | DocPlatypus | it might be, look and see |
| 03:44.05 | Azar | eh 8139too was not loaded |
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| 03:44.11 | Azar | thank yhou honorables |
| 03:44.30 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: tell me this isnt related to your rain8? |
| 03:44.43 | DawnLight | it isn't :) |
| 03:45.03 | Azar | man you are such a bunch of... good guys |
| 03:45.12 | DawnLight | about this rain8! i think the kernel doesn't make the serial ports work right |
| 03:45.27 | DawnLight | oh thank you Azar |
| 03:45.38 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: its probably fine. Most likely just doing someting wrong |
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| 03:46.06 | PrinceAMD | hi all |
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| 03:46.12 | PrinceAMD | anyone here uses lenny unstable? |
| 03:46.19 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.26 | DawnLight | mmm... well, i'm using gtkterm. i'm not sure how this minicom thing works. i think it hangs |
| 03:46.28 | streuner | heh |
| 03:46.39 | streuner | PrinceAMD: lenny is testing |
| 03:46.53 | PrinceAMD | streuner, cool, do u use it/ |
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| 03:47.05 | streuner | !ask |
| 03:47.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:47.14 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: did you setup minicom to use the right ttyS? and baud settings? |
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| 03:47.35 | level1 | Hi, theres a package that failed to install because I had unmet dependancies, and now I can't dist-upgrade because it still wants to install the package... how do I tell it just to ignore the package? |
| 03:47.38 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: if you did, you should be able to start sending and recieving commands as soon as you start it |
| 03:47.40 | DawnLight | no :( |
| 03:47.55 | PrinceAMD | dpkg I have a problem with pidgin |
| 03:47.56 | DawnLight | i'll get on it now... |
| 03:48.08 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: try CTRL-A+Z, then find the port settings |
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| 03:49.39 | streuner | PrinceAMD: did you check BTS? |
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| 03:50.14 | PrinceAMD | streuner, BTS? what's that? |
| 03:50.26 | streuner | PrinceAMD: /msg dpkg bts |
| 03:51.29 | simonrvn | PrinceAMD: put it on hold |
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| 03:52.35 | streuner | !hold |
| 03:52.35 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections' or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" because they require packages that are not currently (or tri |
| 03:53.13 | PrinceAMD | E: Broken packages |
| 03:53.13 | PrinceAMD | ] |
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| 03:59.47 | sayers | How do I suspend? |
| 03:59.49 | sayers | !suspend |
| 03:59.49 | dpkg | [suspend] check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , no apm nor acpi is required or suspend2 (msg dpkg about - works for me beautifully!!) |
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| 04:00.49 | rhsanborn | whats the package with the c header files called? |
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| 04:02.06 | DawnLight | MangosDebian: i got the hang og minicom but the device just won't respond. i'll try to null the two ports and see if i'm really doing something |
| 04:02.06 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: does it say online or offline? |
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| 04:02.17 | DocPlatypus | where do you get the custom kernel for suspend2? or do you have to build it yourself? |
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| 04:02.35 | dondelelcaro | DocPlatypus: since it can't be built as a module, yes, you have to build it yourself. |
| 04:02.42 | dondelelcaro | DocPlatypus: it's fairly simple to do, though. |
| 04:02.42 | DocPlatypus | lovely |
| 04:02.45 | DawnLight | i havn't noticed that part, MangosDebian |
| 04:02.49 | DocPlatypus | you'd think someone would have a package you could just grab |
| 04:02.58 | dondelelcaro | DocPlatypus: well, it literally is almost that simple |
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| 04:04.13 | Pencil | hey |
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| 04:04.28 | Pencil | how do i make my debian box give my wnidows box internet access? |
| 04:04.34 | dondelelcaro | DocPlatypus: just get the linux-source package, apply the patch, and use the kernel mantra |
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| 04:04.48 | DocPlatypus | dondelelcaro: which I don't know, either |
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| 04:05.00 | dondelelcaro | !kp mantra |
| 04:05.00 | dpkg | kp mantra is, like, make-kpkg clean && VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') && NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)" && make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=-$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 04:05.51 | Pencil | how do i make my debian box give my wnidows box internet access? |
| 04:05.51 | DocPlatypus | sounds like I have a fun weekend project coming up |
| 04:05.52 | Pencil | oops |
| 04:05.55 | Pencil | sorry i accidently pressed up |
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| 04:06.47 | sayers | I wish SUSPEND worked :9 |
| 04:07.08 | stoned | I can't find a powertab file reader in linux |
| 04:07.13 | Pencil | anyone here know? |
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| 04:07.28 | dondelelcaro | !masq |
| 04:07.28 | dpkg | hmm... masq is See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
| 04:07.30 | dondelelcaro | Pencil: see above. |
| 04:07.48 | dondelelcaro | sayers: it does on some hardware |
| 04:07.56 | DawnLight | MangosDebian: do i need to "initialize modem"? |
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| 04:08.26 | sayers | dondelelcaro, how do I find out |
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| 04:08.50 | dondelelcaro | sayers: depends on the hardware; search google is the general response. |
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| 04:09.37 | Pencil | gotcha |
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| 04:10.58 | MangosDebian | DawnLight: no, once you setup the right port info and save, you should just be able to hit enter and it should be online, or restart minicom and if its set as default |
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| 04:15.40 | pedro_mg | anyone using Gnu Stow ? |
| 04:18.17 | DocPlatypus | what is it? |
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| 04:18.43 | DocPlatypus | sounds interesting |
| 04:18.48 | pedro_mg | Stow is a tool for managing the installation of multiple software packages in the same run-time directory tree |
| 04:19.11 | pedro_mg | it's a kind of apt-get for your own compiled packages |
| 04:19.18 | DocPlatypus | oh, okay |
| 04:19.38 | DocPlatypus | so I could use it to manage all the shit that I install in $HOME when I don't want to install it system wide? |
| 04:19.40 | pedro_mg | everything goes into /usr/local/stow/... |
| 04:19.54 | DocPlatypus | could it just as easily go under $HOME? |
| 04:20.17 | DocPlatypus | yes and I know I will go to hell for abusing $HOME like that but... |
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| 04:20.42 | pedro_mg | the thing is Stow creates symlinks in /usr/local as if packages were installed there, and manages it for future removals for example |
| 04:20.43 | Internat | can anyone telle me how to disable banned content chedcking completely from amavisd? |
| 04:20.54 | DocPlatypus | oh |
| 04:21.02 | DocPlatypus | was hoping it would do something a bit fancier |
| 04:21.45 | pedro_mg | instead of installing on $HOME you can install at /usr/local... though they really are at /usr/local/stow |
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| 04:22.04 | pedro_mg | http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/manual.html#SEC1 |
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| 04:22.30 | DocPlatypus | ah see then everyone on the system can run it. defeats the purpose of using $HOME |
| 04:22.33 | pedro_mg | i'm deciding if installing it or not. I really like to keep my system as clean as possible :) |
| 04:22.40 | pedro_mg | yes |
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| 04:23.29 | pedro_mg | i was wondering if anyone has good or bad experiences with it, here |
| 04:23.37 | DocPlatypus | amazing. my friend's amd64 box blows through Ogg Vorbis encoding at 23x real time |
| 04:24.02 | pedro_mg | The approach used by Stow is to install each package into its own tree, then use symbolic links to make it appear as though the files are installed in the common tree |
| 04:24.14 | stoned | DocPlatypus: I do with amd64 some stuff that just blows my mind |
| 04:26.33 | DocPlatypus | I'm used to boxes that go maybe 3-4x real time with that kind of load |
| 04:26.42 | lkthomas_ | guys |
| 04:27.01 | lkthomas_ | does rsync preserve the original permission and ownership after sync to other machine ? |
| 04:27.40 | lkthomas | hmnm |
| 04:27.41 | DocPlatypus | lkthomas: it can |
| 04:27.54 | DocPlatypus | but you have to run it as root and tell it to |
| 04:28.02 | DocPlatypus | and you also have to NOT QUIT IRC BEFORE I FINISH ANSWERING |
| 04:28.05 | DocPlatypus | sheesh |
| 04:28.11 | DocPlatypus | dum-dum |
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| 04:28.32 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 04:28.48 | lkthomas | does rsync preserve ownership and permission during sync ? |
| 04:28.49 | DocPlatypus | lkthomas: it can, but you have to run it as root, and tell it to preserve permissions/ownership |
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| 04:29.34 | lkthomas | DocPlatypus: which parameter use to preserve permission ? |
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| 04:29.45 | DocPlatypus | lkthomas: the one the man page tells you to |
| 04:29.49 | rutski | I need a package from unstable (libfreeimage-dev), but I don't feel like switching to unstable. Is it possible (and safe) to install just that one package somehow? |
| 04:29.52 | lkthomas | k |
| 04:30.57 | DocPlatypus | rutski: that will probably pull in the main libfreeimage at minimum |
| 04:31.09 | DocPlatypus | but usually packages are somewhat backward compatible |
| 04:31.29 | rutski | DocPlatypus: there is no main libfreeimage package; that's just the problem :-/ |
| 04:32.37 | DocPlatypus | hmm |
| 04:32.43 | DocPlatypus | that *is* odd. |
| 04:33.10 | rutski | but can I somehow install it despite not being on unstable? |
| 04:33.10 | DocPlatypus | unless I'm mistaken -dev usually means the stuff required for building software using the main package |
| 04:33.23 | rutski | oh, no |
| 04:33.25 | DocPlatypus | rutski: you can install anything, the question is what good it will do and what you will break |
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| 04:33.49 | rutski | DocPlatypus: I don't think we're on the same page here |
| 04:34.13 | DocPlatypus | rutski: install it, if it breaks, uninstall it, if it is still broken, restore from your last backups |
| 04:34.53 | rutski | DocPlatypus: What I'm saying is that there are two packages in question "libfreeimage3" and "libfreeimage-dev", and neither of them exist on debian/main; however, they both exist on debian/unstable. |
| 04:35.01 | rutski | DocPlatypus: how do I install packages from unstable if I'm on main? |
| 04:35.24 | DocPlatypus | rutski: download and install with dpkg ... or edit your sources.list to pull in unstable and testing as well |
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| 04:35.42 | rutski | ah, dpkg |
| 04:35.45 | rutski | I forgot about that tool |
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| 04:35.52 | rutski | hmm, now where to get the .deb |
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| 04:39.27 | lekvar | what's the trick to make dpkg say why certain packages aren't in certain releases? |
| 04:40.31 | DocPlatypus | lekvar: I don't think dpkg knows that |
| 04:41.18 | lekvar | one of the bots does or recently did. it hits a web page that tells that. |
| 04:41.19 | Ezep | tell Ezep about Debian Bible |
| 04:41.20 | Ezep | o.O |
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| 04:44.35 | Azar | DocPlatypus: wonder why lspci won't run on my newly upgraded sarge... is a 2.6.x kernel thingie? |
| 04:45.51 | Azar | I have man lspci but when I type lspci: no such file or directory :) |
| 04:46.02 | bpringle | I have cupsys installed on Etch. I have cupsd process and an UDP:IPP and /var/run/cups/cups.sock. Why is there no TCP:IPP listener? |
| 04:46.05 | rutski | Ok, yea; I'm going to just go to unstable |
| 04:46.17 | rutski | is it really as simple as changing the sources.list file and then doing an "apt-get update"? |
| 04:46.23 | DocPlatypus | Azar: sudo lspci and/or make sure /sbin and /usr/sbin are in $PATH |
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| 04:46.36 | bpringle | Azar: Sounds like a library problem. "no such file or directory" |
| 04:46.45 | Ezep | hey, anyone know if etch have linux-image-2.4,x? |
| 04:46.52 | DocPlatypus | Ezep: unlikely |
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| 04:46.54 | Azar | -bash: /sbin/lspci: No such file or directory |
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| 04:47.08 | DocPlatypus | hmm |
| 04:47.10 | Ezep | :S |
| 04:47.13 | bpringle | Azar: can you do ldd on lspci? |
| 04:47.15 | DocPlatypus | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.19 | mhall | Hey what the hell's up with Java 6? It does not want to install its symlinks in /usr/bin anymore like version 5 did. |
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| 04:48.10 | lekvar | hmm, no nvidia drivers for lenny |
| 04:48.27 | Azar | I do have some packages "kept back" libdps1, libpng2, lilo, ltrace... |
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| 04:48.35 | karmatronic | hi there |
| 04:48.46 | Ezep | DocPlatypus: do u know if sarge yep? =) |
| 04:49.00 | metbsd | how do i undeclare some variable |
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| 04:49.05 | bpringle | Anyone know why "cupsys" won't listen on TCP:IPP? |
| 04:49.28 | bpringle | metbsd - in a shell? export VAR= |
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| 04:49.55 | bpringle | metbsd - actually that just "blanks" it. |
| 04:51.36 | lekvar | unset? |
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| 04:53.02 | metbsd | i don't know whch hidden file is doing export LANG for me |
| 04:53.05 | metbsd | i'm in bash |
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| 04:54.35 | Azar | I have lots of packages on hold damn I dont know I guess I would try again a dist-upgrade |
| 04:54.44 | Azar | since my connection died in the middle of it |
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| 04:57.53 | polishpaul | If i create a user using ADDUSER command, how can i edit the user's info / home dir? |
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| 04:58.58 | k-man_ | if i think i found a bug in a package - is it considered ok to email the package maintainers about it? |
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| 04:59.27 | dondelelcaro | k-man_: best to just file a bug if it hasn't been filed already |
| 04:59.31 | lekvar | polishpaul: usermod |
| 04:59.37 | k-man_ | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 05:00.04 | bpringle | polishpaul: chfn will update user info. I don't think you can change the home directory. That is the users name. |
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| 05:03.34 | polishpaul | bpringle, i should be able to change the home directory of a user... like when adding "useradd -d /home/homedirectoryx user1" i should be able to do this after adding user.. |
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| 05:04.37 | Azar | got another error, what can I do about: Warning! '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/hda' |
| 05:17.56 | bpringle | polishpaul: Yes. the "chfn" command won't do it. usermod as lekvar sugessted will. |
| 05:17.56 | polishpaul | oh doh! sorry guys, didn't even notice the reply :D i'll check it out |
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| 05:17.58 | bpringle | I have the following message with "tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log". |
| 05:17.58 | bpringle | E [16/Jul/2007:00:36:24 +0000] Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Cannot assign requested address. |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | What would disallow root to bind to a TCP port? |
| 05:17.59 | wils0n___ | is there someone already listening on that port? |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | No, I check with netstat and lsof. |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | I have not iptables either. |
| 05:17.59 | wils0n___ | iptables wouldn't do it. |
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| 05:17.59 | wils0n___ | what's `ifconfig lo` provide? |
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| 05:17.59 | bpringle | lo Link encap:Local Loopback |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.59 | bpringle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:18.00 | MangosDebian | bpringle: wb |
| 05:18.00 | wils0n___ | bpringle `ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1` ; then try again; |
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| 05:18.01 | bpringle | wils0n___ : thx. I feel stupid. Where would I put this to be done automatically on Debian? |
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| 05:18.01 | gonzaloaf | hello, I use debian lenny, I have updated all my pkgs 2 days ago, how can I downgrade amarok and all its dependencies? because the 1.4.6 debian version is working very bad for me |
| 05:18.01 | wils0n___ | bpringle : /etc/sysconfig/network or something maybe? |
| 05:18.01 | wils0n___ | bpringle : sorry-- /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:18.01 | bpringle | wils0n__ : thx. I found it with locate network. |
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| 05:18.01 | maxamillion | is Wajig new? ... and if so, why isn't it getting more attention/publicity? it seems like a great tool |
| 05:18.01 | metbsd | how do i view iptable rules that im using now |
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| 05:18.02 | aztec105 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.02 | Agrajag- | gonzaloaf: not easily. it would probably be easier to make amarok work for you. |
| 05:18.18 | bpringle | metbsd: You can run "iptables --list". Also try "iptables --list -t nat" if you have NAT enabled. |
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| 05:19.10 | gonzaloaf | Agrajag-, it is working really slow.....very slow... all system freezes when it is searching for a sng |
| 05:19.36 | metbsd | bpringle, i want to view firewall rules using on boxA, and use the same rules on boxB |
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| 05:20.49 | cchance | how can i get shoutcast to start at startup without killing the system the last time i did it the system wouldent start |
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| 05:21.31 | bpringle | metbsd: You would need the script that creates the table. I don't know what it would be for Debian. I have /etc/ppp/firewall-standalone on a Mandrake system. |
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| 05:22.40 | cchance | or am i going to have to invoke it manualy? |
| 05:28.10 | Azar | ok to summarize here: all in all woody was "teh shit" only was missing some tools/packages but it was a pleasure to install |
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| 05:31.13 | streuner | argh, after Knoppix and Ubuntu we have a new Distro, "elive" :-) |
| 05:32.09 | cchance | Hey, would hues net be ok for running a webserver? |
| 05:32.20 | cchance | the home selsection |
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| 05:33.33 | Math^ | hello, I want to try out Compiz Fusion, anyone know a howto for debian etch? |
| 05:35.27 | metbsd | so what's the command to save current states of firewall, and use it in another box |
| 05:35.44 | streuner | iptables-save? |
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| 05:37.14 | streuner | aztec105: just stay here longer and you'll know why :-) |
| 05:38.57 | aztec105 | streuner: FYI I do know they are debian based as was Corel Linux...but really as much as they are similar in many ways in many ways they are disimilare otherwise they would all be Debian LOL |
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| 05:39.45 | holycow | silly question, how does one create a brand new blank file via bash? |
| 05:39.57 | shingouz | holycow: touch |
| 05:39.57 | lekvar | touch <file> |
| 05:40.00 | holycow | oh!!!! |
| 05:40.05 | Drstroker | i know this sounds silly but, say i want to hook up two keyboards to a pc .. is it possible to rework the mouse ps/2 and use it for a keyboard? |
| 05:40.07 | holycow | thats what that is used for! thank you:) |
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| 05:40.19 | vorpal | holy cow! |
| 05:40.35 | djw | holycow: it also update the time stamp of the file |
| 05:40.55 | lekvar | tag him :) |
| 05:41.04 | holycow | djw, oh aha! |
| 05:41.33 | metbsd | streuner, how do i load them back in another box? |
| 05:41.33 | streuner | iptables-restore |
| 05:41.33 | holycow | *stare* |
| 05:42.13 | cchance | webhosting:/home/owner# ls |
| 05:42.13 | cchance | README.TXT sc_serv sc_serv.conf sc_serv_1.9.8_Linux.tar.gz |
| 05:42.20 | cchance | how can i exicute sc_serv |
| 05:42.41 | vorpal | make sure it has execute permissions |
| 05:42.54 | vorpal | assuming it is a valid executablke |
| 05:43.07 | streuner | shoutcast isnt open source, why do you ask here then? |
| 05:43.51 | vorpal | holy piss |
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| 05:44.44 | polishpaul | Drstroker, do you have usb? |
| 05:45.07 | holycow | aztec105, *ew* and lol |
| 05:45.38 | aztec105 | holycow: my off topic comments for the day hehehe |
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| 05:47.45 | streuner | aztec105: /msg dpkg fable |
| 05:48.38 | polishpaul | I created a group called FTP. I added user JIM to that group using "usermod -g ftp jim". If i give 7 permissions to the Owner or Group, i cannot cd into that directory. |
| 05:48.44 | aztec105 | Drstroker: I know there is an adapter out there that would allow OCR devices and keyboards interact on the same input.. I believe it was also capable of allowing multiple keyboards... I recall the library I worked at had one of these things but that was ages ago when the internet was still young and a 486 dx4 100 was considered "fast" |
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| 05:49.56 | Xptical | hi all. does a cron job (in cron.weekly) have to have a specific format to run? |
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| 05:50.14 | Xptical | If I call it directly, it runs. If I let cron call it, it fails |
| 05:50.15 | Guerin | Xptical: yes. man cron |
| 05:50.16 | polishpaul | in /etc/password the user jim has the FTP group ID in there... however the group does not have the user jim (when looking at /etc/group) |
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| 05:51.49 | polishpaul | can someone help me with simple user/group permissions? |
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| 05:52.33 | Guerin | polishpaul: just ask; if you already asked, just wait. Ask again in half an hour. |
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| 05:52.55 | polishpaul | ok |
| 05:53.11 | Guerin | or one beer |
| 05:53.14 | Guerin | whichever comes first |
| 05:53.25 | polishpaul | you know what... that's a good idea |
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| 05:53.37 | Guerin | beer is always a good idea |
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| 05:57.09 | Guerin | my beer lives on the windowsill at this time of year |
| 05:57.38 | MangosDebian | Guerin: /dcc me one would ya? |
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| 05:58.31 | Guerin | MangosDebian: dcc is for paedophiles and zerawl33ts |
| 05:58.31 | Guerin | !beer MangosDebian |
| 05:58.31 | Guerin | NOES |
| 05:58.37 | Guerin | ah |
| 05:58.42 | Guerin | good things take time |
| 05:58.58 | MangosDebian | glacias |
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| 05:59.07 | matahari | hi folks |
| 05:59.58 | matahari | i am looking for a package/program that helps me with creation of a documentation of an API... suggestions? |
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| 06:01.16 | smtlaissezfaire | matahari: What programming language? |
| 06:01.21 | matahari | PHP |
| 06:02.24 | basanta | my normal user LANG variable is set to ne_NP.UTF-8 while root LANG variable is set to ne_NP. I need both to be ne_NP.UTF-8. which file do I change. |
| 06:02.27 | smtlaissezfaire | I'm not sure about PHP, but I know Ruby has Rdoc, which runs through all of the classes and methods, and generates documentation based on the comments. |
| 06:02.48 | smtlaissezfaire | Don't know about PHP, but I would imagine there is something out there like that for PHP. |
| 06:02.59 | matahari | okay, thanks for the tip |
| 06:03.21 | Guerin | basanta: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 06:03.23 | polishpaul | gin and tonic will have to do instead |
| 06:04.33 | matahari | thanks for the tips |
| 06:04.35 | matahari | see you |
| 06:05.43 | MangosDebian | polishpaul: gin and tonic, kinda hardcore isnt it? :) |
| 06:05.47 | basanta | Guerin, I get ne_NP UTF-8 only |
| 06:06.12 | polishpaul | Group/user permissions question: I created a group called FTP. I added user JIM to that group using "usermod -g ftp jim". If i give 7 permissions to the Owner or Group, i cannot cd into that directory. In /etc/password the user jim has the FTP group ID in there... however the group does not have the user jim (when looking at /etc/group) Does it have to? is it sufficient enough to usermod jim and add ftp as a group? |
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| 06:07.50 | dondelelcaro | polishpaul: uh... you probably meant to adduser jim ftp; instead of changing jim's GID to that of FTP. |
| 06:08.07 | dondelelcaro | polishpaul: in general, you shouldn't be modifying user's GIDs. |
| 06:08.10 | basanta | Guerin, all the other languages have ab_CD.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
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| 06:10.25 | Math^ | lol, compiz = the new compiz fusion? |
| 06:10.36 | polishpaul | dondelelcaro, jim:x:1004:1003:Jim Malloy,,,:/home/ftp/:/bin/bash - his is /etc/passwd. |
| 06:10.58 | polishpaul | dondelelcaro, ftp:x:1003: - this is in /etc/group |
| 06:11.02 | Math^ | I mean, I dont have to add new repositories for Compiz Fusion? |
| 06:11.13 | chance2105 | When I start openoffice.org, I get this for my UI fonts: http://chance.freeshell.org/openoffice.png Where do I start troubleshooting this issue? |
| 06:11.16 | streuner | Math^: compiz and beryl will merge |
| 06:11.22 | Math^ | streuner: I know |
| 06:11.24 | streuner | hm |
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| 06:11.34 | streuner | the packages should be the same? |
| 06:11.36 | Math^ | I just want to install compiz fusion |
| 06:12.03 | Math^ | now Ive installed compiz, but I dont know if thats the new one, or the old Compiz |
| 06:12.08 | polishpaul | dondelelcaro, does that not mean that jim is part of group 1004 and 1003? |
| 06:12.15 | streuner | Math^: read changelog about |
| 06:12.23 | streuner | it should mention that |
| 06:12.27 | Math^ | cant find |
| 06:12.40 | streuner | Math^: /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 06:12.50 | Math^ | streuner: ok, thnx |
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| 06:15.24 | dondelelcaro | polishpaul: no, that means that jim has uid 1004, and gid 1003. |
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| 06:16.08 | chance2105 | I just created a new user, and started up openoffice - the UI fonts are working correctly with that user. I tried blowing away the .openoffice.org2/ directory - still no love on the original user. |
| 06:16.09 | dondelelcaro | polishpaul: you wanted to use adduser jim ftp; not usermod -g ftp jim; You'll know when you've done it right, because /etc/group will be ftp:x:1003:jim |
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| 06:16.41 | polishpaul | so i can just run adduser again even though the user is there? |
| 06:16.54 | polishpaul | i see now... |
| 06:17.00 | dondelelcaro | polishpaul: adduser does quite a bit more than just create users. man adduser; |
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| 06:18.09 | Zemus | I'd like some help getting pidgin (which has been released for sid) onto my etch debian linux system. I think all I have to do is edit my repositories and then more or less use aptitude to install it. Does anyone know how to do this? |
| 06:19.01 | dondelelcaro | Zemus: you have to backport it or wait for someone to do it for you |
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| 06:19.28 | Zemus | Then I'd like some help backporting it. You interested in walking me through it, dondelelcaro? :) |
| 06:19.40 | dondelelcaro | !simple sid backport |
| 06:19.40 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs. |
| 06:19.47 | Zemus | Sweet. Thanks. |
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| 06:22.00 | chance2105 | I fixed this problem - it boiled down to picking a different application font in Gnome font settings. Some settings have "no" fonts (squares) for the openoffice UI .. others display the wrong font (eg, something non-western) .. some display correctly. Not sure what causes that, but I've change the font and I'm good to go. |
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| 06:23.32 | Zemus | If I have a virtual terminal open, and I launch, for example, "gedit", that terminal is occupied until I close gedit. And if I close the terminal, gedit closes as well. What's a parameter I can use to make the terminal open gedit, then leave itself ready for new commands? So that gedit is an isolated process, and not tied in with the terminal that I have open? |
| 06:23.53 | MangosDebian | Zemus: nohup <cmd>&? |
| 06:24.34 | Zemus | MangosDebian, can you put that into a complete sentence and define your variables for me, so I understand what you said? |
| 06:24.41 | MangosDebian | not sure if you need a nohup in there though |
| 06:24.53 | MangosDebian | Zemus: nohuop gedit & |
| 06:25.13 | siimo | Zemus: i'd just run: command & |
| 06:25.19 | MangosDebian | ^^^ |
| 06:25.46 | MangosDebian | err and I meant nohup not nohuop |
| 06:25.53 | Zemus | MangosDebian, siimo, thanks both :) |
| 06:25.54 | polishpaul | if i create a simple file in linux, then try to FTP it over to my windows box, should it work? i'm getting "critical transfer error" |
| 06:26.09 | MangosDebian | Zemus: np, sorry it looked so cryptic at first ;) |
| 06:26.32 | Zemus | Yeah, the nohup *was* neccessary. |
| 06:26.37 | Zemus | Thanks very much, both of you :) |
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| 06:27.06 | siimo | nohup redirects the output to a text file and therefore you can close the term window as well |
| 06:27.45 | MangosDebian | i think the problem with just & is that it becomes a jobs in the bg and bash kills all jobs on exit iirc |
| 06:28.32 | siimo | yes and output lines will keep coming through even if your term isnt locked by the program |
| 06:28.42 | MangosDebian | although theres always: nohup <cmd> 2>&1 >/dev/null & |
| 06:28.57 | MangosDebian | or is it >/dev/null 2>&1, i forget the order |
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| 06:34.34 | holycow | *hmmm* |
| 06:35.04 | holycow | i want to make one install script that runs other install scripts, but waits until they are done ... how is this done in bash without doing some time based delay? |
| 06:35.47 | Zemus | When I do nohup gedit &, the shell is still engaged in the process. Fortunately, I can close the shell window, and I can ctrl + c, and gedit is fine... but I wanted it to close all by itself. So that it opens gedit, then straight away is ready for new commands. Ideas, MangosDebian, siimo? |
| 06:35.49 | MangosDebian | holycow: ? just call the other scripts? |
| 06:36.25 | MangosDebian | Zemus: you mean you want the term windows to exit after it launches gedit? |
| 06:36.35 | Zemus | no. |
| 06:36.54 | Zemus | I want it to display the command line again, so it's ready for new commands. |
| 06:37.13 | Zemus | So that I don't have to hit "ctrl + c" every time I launch a process. |
| 06:37.15 | robboplus | how do you kill a single established TCP/IP session? |
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| 06:38.01 | MangosDebian | Zemus: actually, when you & something, it technically should be ready for commands. However I didnt give you the >/devnull stuff so it may have appeared to still show output, but you can still type commands dispite being overwritten by on screen text. that what you mean? |
| 06:38.26 | Zemus | ahh. |
| 06:38.28 | Zemus | ok, let me try that. |
| 06:38.29 | MangosDebian | Zemus: after you ran that command, pressing enter should have giving you a fresh prompt |
| 06:38.39 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: you don't, in general. You kill the process that is running it. |
| 06:38.51 | MangosDebian | Zemus: try: nohup gedit >/dev/null 2>&1 & |
| 06:38.58 | dondelelcaro | (you can inject packets to close it, but that's rather ugly) |
| 06:39.23 | lkthomas | guys |
| 06:39.24 | MangosDebian | Zemus: assuming it doesnt rely on stdout to display stuff it should be fine to redirect to null as well as stderr. |
| 06:39.32 | lkthomas | how could I test a disk with bad sector on it ? |
| 06:39.54 | MangosDebian | robboplus: a firewall rule for that specific connection to REJECT is probably the quickest |
| 06:39.57 | ceci | I have debian with no graphic interface how i can stop monitor turning off after some minutes ? |
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| 06:40.43 | MangosDebian | robboplus: sec, there is an icmp tool that you can use |
| 06:40.57 | MangosDebian | robboplus: apt-cache show icmpush |
| 06:41.41 | MangosDebian | robboplus: as long as you know the ip's and ports involved, you can pretty much force the RST rather than relying on a firewall rule that blocks a packet with REJECT which may never come for a long time |
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| 06:43.01 | MangosDebian | robboplus: although i don't know if the kernel will catch your outgoing icmp and terminate its side of the connection as well or just cause the destination to drop it only |
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| 06:43.18 | ceci | Where in debian i can setup a power management schemes ? |
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| 06:45.56 | vin` | ceci: re: monitor /msg dpkg dpms |
| 06:46.24 | ceci | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.39 | MangosDebian | robboplus: looking to "fake" your dc from irc like everyone else? :) |
| 06:47.17 | vin` | !tell ceci -about dpms |
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| 06:49.02 | vin` | ceci: ah no xserver? I'm not sure |
| 06:49.11 | Zemus | would aptitude update and apt-get update basically do the same thing? |
| 06:49.18 | robboplus | MangosDebian i added DROP for that ip and his session is stil on |
| 06:49.53 | robboplus | MangosDebian thank you so much for this icmpush trick... testing... |
| 06:50.18 | rahul | Zemus: no |
| 06:50.32 | rahul | Zemus: aptitude update will update the stuff aptitude tracks, as well |
| 06:50.33 | MangosDebian | robboplus: best off just killing the process in that case |
| 06:50.34 | robboplus | MangosDebian and no, i'm looking to remove a stupid GM without warning ;) |
| 06:50.44 | Zemus | rahul, sweet, thanks |
| 06:50.56 | robboplus | MangosDebian i just removed his lvl2 and i want to boot him off now |
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| 06:51.06 | robboplus | as he is still in |
| 06:51.13 | MangosDebian | he will timeout |
| 06:51.24 | robboplus | it takes very long |
| 06:51.32 | MangosDebian | if you DROP his packets, its just a matter of time since he cant talk to the server anymore |
| 06:51.35 | robboplus | like 3-4 mins already and he still is in there |
| 06:51.44 | robboplus | so you think it's just a ghost now? |
| 06:51.52 | MangosDebian | robboplus: is he moving? or just running in a straight line? |
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| 06:52.07 | robboplus | hm i'm watching him on the box and i'm not sure |
| 06:52.24 | robboplus | established and my reg page says that he is still in and got GM |
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| 06:53.08 | MangosDebian | robboplus: hard to go by that though. What you need to do is actually watch him in game. Unless you got the wrong IP address |
| 06:53.09 | robboplus | i think it would really NICE to have a good method of shooting people directly on the shell |
| 06:53.32 | robboplus | ip is 100% fine, checked with realmd db lastlogin |
| 06:53.56 | MangosDebian | robboplus: you should be using: netstat |
| 06:54.20 | robboplus | i am |
| 06:54.26 | robboplus | he is still established... |
| 06:54.38 | robboplus | and the rule is fine, shouldn't he timeout already? |
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| 06:54.53 | robboplus | oh he just died it seems |
| 06:54.57 | robboplus | but well it took very long.. |
| 06:55.06 | robboplus | unless it was just a freeze on his side |
| 06:55.25 | MangosDebian | ya, theres a few minute timeoput of the keepalives iirc. and since you DROP any packets, the kernel will wait for it |
| 06:55.41 | robboplus | hmm... now i see |
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| 06:55.52 | MangosDebian | REJECT is a little more "proper" |
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| 06:56.15 | robboplus | i read you, will test REJECT soon... on the first incident to come :) |
| 06:56.24 | MangosDebian | it will send an icmp out to notify him to tear down his side |
| 06:56.37 | robboplus | oh that sounds good |
| 06:56.48 | robboplus | so kind of the thing you tried to do with icmpush |
| 06:57.01 | MangosDebian | basically thats a manual way of doing it |
| 06:57.07 | robboplus | err "a kind of thing" would be more proper english |
| 06:57.12 | MangosDebian | ;) |
| 06:57.16 | robboplus | right i read you |
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| 06:58.57 | polishpaul | ok, so i got VSFTPD running ok on my INT IP. When going in over EXT IP, after "227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,2,58,42) |
| 06:58.57 | polishpaul | gives me this error: |
| 06:59.18 | polishpaul | 425 Security: Bad IP connecting. |
| 07:00.14 | MangosDebian | hmm, pasv disabled by default? |
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| 07:00.24 | polishpaul | I added this to the .conf file - pasv_address=71.185.184.243 - but now i get "Transfer channel can't be opened. Reason: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. |
| 07:00.24 | polishpaul | Error:Could not retrieve directory listing |
| 07:00.52 | polishpaul | i don't think so.. it looks like its going into passive. I can try including the direcitve.. |
| 07:01.02 | MangosDebian | polishpaul: 71.185.... is a router? |
| 07:01.26 | MangosDebian | or rather your cable/dsl modem ip on the external router side? |
| 07:01.28 | polishpaul | same error |
| 07:01.29 | polishpaul | yes |
| 07:01.45 | MangosDebian | the router setup to allow ftp redirect to the internal nat ip? |
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| 07:01.55 | MangosDebian | 21 and 20 need to be handled |
| 07:02.17 | polishpaul | i used the router's predefined FTP rules.. let me double check |
| 07:02.46 | MangosDebian | might have issues when going from internal to the external ip and back again though. hard to say |
| 07:03.15 | MangosDebian | just like linux has limits on being able to test certain things like redirects to an eth ip from lo |
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| 07:03.25 | Math^ | hello, I want to compile and install compiz-settings ( http://compiz.org/Compiz-Settings ), but I get the error that Ive to install 'glib', but then wich package I need to install? |
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| 07:03.56 | MangosDebian | polishpaul: to be safe, try test it from an external machine (external to your dsl/cable) |
| 07:04.15 | Math^ | apt-get install glib does not work |
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| 07:04.36 | gilligan_ | holy moly this channel is full...;] |
| 07:04.40 | gilligan_ | good morning |
| 07:04.45 | Math^ | good morning |
| 07:04.51 | polishpaul | morning?! oh no... |
| 07:05.00 | Math^ | it is here ;) |
| 07:05.08 | gilligan_ | 09:04 |
| 07:05.09 | gilligan_ | :) |
| 07:05.11 | Math^ | yep |
| 07:05.16 | polishpaul | 3:04 |
| 07:05.18 | polishpaul | am |
| 07:05.20 | Math^ | hehe |
| 07:05.30 | gilligan_ | and time for a coffee actually.. |
| 07:05.31 | Math^ | gilligan_: u from? |
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| 07:06.08 | lymeca | Is there a simple way for 2-3 Debian machines on a LAN all running X11 to send messages to one another and have it pop up on the screen of the recipient? |
| 07:06.11 | wols_ | Math^: the -dev package |
| 07:06.16 | Math^ | wols_: ok |
| 07:06.45 | wols_ | lymeca: use IM |
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| 07:07.22 | wols_ | !Info jabber |
| 07:07.26 | dpkg | jabber: has nothing about Info |
| 07:07.28 | wols_ | !info jabber |
| 07:07.31 | dpkg | jabber: (An instant messaging server using the Jabber/XMPP protocol), section net, is optional. Version: 1.4.3-3.3 (sid), Packaged size: 153 kB, Installed size: 564 kB |
| 07:07.48 | robboplus | gilligan coffee is bad. |
| 07:07.48 | Math^ | wols_: I installed libglib-dev but I still get the error message |
| 07:08.00 | MangosDebian | robboplus: bah, COFFEE! |
| 07:08.04 | wols_ | you have a config.log |
| 07:08.08 | robboplus | eww.. |
| 07:09.22 | gilligan_ | math^: south germany |
| 07:09.24 | Math^ | wols_: |
| 07:09.43 | Math^ | I had to install libglib2.0-dev :) |
| 07:09.55 | Math^ | gilligan_: oh :o |
| 07:09.59 | Math^ | <-- Netherlands |
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| 07:11.27 | robboplus | damn my new laptop bag just arrived! i love it :) |
| 07:12.05 | Halleck | can anyone suggest a destination directory for ruby on rails? /var/rails? /var/www/rails ? |
| 07:12.28 | MangosDebian | robboplus: is it bulletproof with a lead linning and water tight seal? |
| 07:12.44 | robboplus | MangosDebian not sure but it looks like it :) |
| 07:12.49 | robboplus | thin as ice |
| 07:12.57 | robboplus | i love IBM design :) |
| 07:13.03 | MangosDebian | :) |
| 07:13.13 | MangosDebian | <3 IBM |
| 07:13.22 | robboplus | IBM laptops forever |
| 07:13.24 | MangosDebian | those guys know how to make a real mobo and bios |
| 07:13.27 | Guerin | Halleck: why do you have to decide? |
| 07:13.31 | robboplus | not lenovo though.. |
| 07:13.39 | robboplus | oh yes MangosDebian |
| 07:14.01 | robboplus | and they know what quality LCD means and keyboard too |
| 07:14.01 | Halleck | Guerin: dunno, never done this before. I was just looking at /usr/share/doc/rails/README.Debian and it doesn't suggest a place to put rails files |
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| 07:14.07 | gilligan_ | anyone here experienced with debian embedded devices? |
| 07:14.08 | MangosDebian | whens the last time a consumer mobo bios let you secure at wipe a hd without yanking power trick? |
| 07:14.20 | MangosDebian | least IBM gives you better control |
| 07:14.35 | Guerin | Halleck: oh, the files. /usr/local/bin for executables; /usr/local/lib for others |
| 07:15.05 | MangosDebian | robboplus: well, arguably high end dell's and compaqs are just as nice |
| 07:15.09 | Guerin | Halleck: though if I were lazy I'd just pot them in the dir they were going to run from |
| 07:15.12 | robboplus | damn the zipper is rocking as well |
| 07:15.15 | MangosDebian | proliant/poweredge i mean |
| 07:15.18 | robboplus | it's just perfect |
| 07:15.30 | robboplus | lol |
| 07:15.44 | MangosDebian | robboplus: got a pic?! |
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| 07:17.23 | robboplus | MangosDebian i will try to find one |
| 07:17.46 | gilligan_ | hm.. wasn't there a "pico debian" distribution ? ... |
| 07:17.55 | Guerin | gilligan_: fgi |
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| 07:18.56 | Math^ | hmm... Im almost there, trying to install compiz-settings ( http://compiz.org/Compiz-Settings ), but I get an error message with make: make: *** [config.status] Error 1 |
| 07:19.01 | gilligan_ | guerin: 3LA FTW .. but.. I 'fgi'I don't know.. :) |
| 07:19.01 | Math^ | what to do, to fix this...? |
| 07:19.36 | gilligan_ | math^: see what went wrong during ./configure .. prolly some package(s) missing |
| 07:20.00 | Math^ | ok |
| 07:20.11 | Math^ | make makes automaticly some log? |
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| 07:21.41 | Math^ | ah |
| 07:21.46 | Math^ | I see the error message |
| 07:21.55 | Guerin | !fgi gilligan_ pico+debian |
| 07:21.55 | dpkg | gilligan_: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=pico+debian |
| 07:21.59 | Guerin | gilligan_: :) |
| 07:22.03 | Math^ | indeed, package requirements... |
| 07:22.05 | robboplus | MangosDebian can't find a pic :( but it says ibm server i5 on top ;) |
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| 07:23.46 | gilligan_ | guerin: project seems to be pretty small.. took some time to find it even with google actually |
| 07:24.07 | MangosDebian | robboplus: now you just need the long chain handcuff for your bag to you so it doesnt go missing :) |
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| 07:25.44 | robboplus | MangosDebian lol |
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| 07:30.23 | Zta | Is there a quick way to rename all files and dirs named with ISO8859-2 to UTF8? |
| 07:31.04 | MangosDebian | sounds interesting. perl comes to mind |
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| 07:31.17 | Guerin | Zta: not really. |
| 07:31.26 | BotaniCar | nice problem Zta, i would benefit from solution too |
| 07:31.33 | Guerin | perl doesn't qualify as quick |
| 07:31.43 | Zta | Guerin, exactly. |
| 07:31.46 | MangosDebian | Guerin: i was thinking about the same |
| 07:32.13 | Zta | I guess I'll just rename the files when I see them. |
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| 07:32.58 | MangosDebian | i still cant wrap my brain around what the names would look like though |
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| 07:33.50 | MangosDebian | what does the fs store them as? iso8859-2? but they don't display proper in a UTF8 console? |
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| 07:34.00 | Zta | I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and now I'm moving my home backup from my previous Debian system back again. The perfect chance to cleanup in that old homedir. |
| 07:34.02 | Guerin | the problem is that the sample space in both uft-8 and the extended iso encodings is huge |
| 07:34.22 | Zta | MangosDebian, they're displayed as '?'. |
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| 07:35.27 | Zta | Guerin, but US ASCII chars have the same value in ISO8859* and UTF8? Since most chars by far are displayed properly. |
| 07:35.37 | MangosDebian | Zta: cause of the iso->utf mapping. ok i think i understand that |
| 07:35.58 | Guerin | Zta: yes, but it's not those characters whicha re the problem |
| 07:36.04 | Zta | Guerin, right |
| 07:36.33 | Zta | I'm a noob with charsets; just confirming my theories ;) |
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| 07:36.38 | Guerin | heh |
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| 07:36.59 | Guerin | I know a little about character sets, but can't program my way out of a paper bag |
| 07:37.02 | Guerin | wet or otherwise |
| 07:37.17 | MangosDebian | Zta: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht16Ht/perl_unicode_en (that help?) |
| 07:37.40 | Dewi | Guerin: actually, they say that random "other charset" data has a pretty low chance of being mistaken for utf8 |
| 07:37.40 | MangosDebian | Zta: seems to have a isoXXXX->utf converstion for text. Im sure it could be adapted for filenames |
| 07:37.52 | Dewi | Guerin: since all non-ascii utf-8 bytes begin with a high bit 7 |
| 07:38.11 | Guerin | Dewi: mm, cool. |
| 07:38.12 | Dewi | Guerin: and you need several in a row, with values within a certain range, for it to be valid |
| 07:38.24 | Dewi | Guerin: but I don't know how much value that has on filenames, which are quite short |
| 07:38.38 | Dewi | (you don't have a whole document worth of statistical data) |
| 07:38.47 | MangosDebian | Zta: lol, don't feel bad. I was happy with my ascii using linux for years until I found out everything uses utf and all these other encodings to save stuff :( |
| 07:38.48 | Guerin | but you could |
| 07:38.56 | Guerin | with ls > |
| 07:39.07 | Zta | MangosDebian, I'm not good with perl, sorry. |
| 07:39.19 | Zta | I only write lolcode |
| 07:39.57 | Guerin | i only write POT and LaTeX |
| 07:40.03 | Guerin | and that quite badly |
| 07:40.12 | Dewi | Guerin: if you had a whole bunch of files known to have the same, but unknown, encoding, yes. Or so they say. I'm a little unconvinced that the chance of mis-interpretation is as low as they say, but there is definitely some redundancy to work from |
| 07:40.54 | gonzaloaf | hello, I use debian lenny, I have updated all my pkgs 2 days ago, how can I downgrade amarok and all its dependencies? because the 1.4.6 debian version is working very bad for me |
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| 07:40.59 | Dewi | Guerin: in theory the latin encodings have 16 undefined bytes in them too, which could be used, but in my experience code page 1252 data ends up in there surprisingly often |
| 07:41.11 | Guerin | Dewi: heh |
| 07:41.21 | Guerin | characterset encodings are a horrible mess |
| 07:41.31 | Guerin | everyone should just use utf-8 |
| 07:41.37 | Dewi | Guerin: indeed |
| 07:41.53 | Guerin | howls, too |
| 07:41.54 | Dewi | Guerin: what a shame so little software supports it properly |
| 07:41.58 | MangosDebian | does utf8 represent every known character though? |
| 07:42.08 | Guerin | MangosDebian: it can, in principle |
| 07:42.22 | Dewi | MangosDebian: that depends if you limit the number of bytes |
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| 07:42.38 | Guerin | MangosDebian: but there are massive holy wars over which characters get to go where and honestly it's a bit insane and evil too |
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| 07:42.46 | Dewi | MangosDebian: when you get outside the utf-16 range differnt implementations do it differently |
| 07:42.50 | Zta | utf8 = unicode? |
| 07:42.53 | Dewi | MangosDebian: and some not at all |
| 07:42.54 | Zta | and what's utf16? |
| 07:43.03 | Guerin | MangosDebian: more proper to sday *unicode* can, whereas utf-8 is a particular sort of unicode |
| 07:43.17 | Guerin | this is covered in the mighty google oracle |
| 07:43.18 | MangosDebian | see thats where i start getting lost |
| 07:43.26 | Dewi | Zta: utf-8 is an encoding capable of representing unicode characters using binary words of varying size (but the usual 7 bit chars for us-ascii) |
| 07:43.27 | Zta | Guerin, I see. |
| 07:43.49 | MangosDebian | unicode vs. utf8 vs. isoXXXX-X etc |
| 07:43.53 | Guerin | utf-8 = nominal 64k characters |
| 07:44.01 | Guerin | which, as they say, should be enough for anyone |
| 07:44.06 | MangosDebian | so its 2bytes then? |
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| 07:44.13 | Dewi | Guerin: nope, utf-8 does define all unicode, but like I say, above 64k different implementations do different things |
| 07:44.21 | Guerin | Dewi: ah, ok. |
| 07:44.36 | MangosDebian | then whats utf16 if utf8 is 2byte? |
| 07:44.37 | Zta | I'm fresh out of ISO8859-2 system, so I can't create any testdata.. |
| 07:44.42 | Dewi | Guerin: eg java has its 'modified unicode' which is different from the standard, and many others just fail, I'd say :P |
| 07:44.51 | Zta | Oh well, I think I'll rename the files manually. |
| 07:45.03 | Zta | It would be cool to make a util for it though =) |
| 07:45.05 | Dewi | MangosDebian: utf8 is "1 or more bytes" |
| 07:45.10 | MangosDebian | Zta: i don't blame you. Unless you have thousands of them |
| 07:45.16 | Dewi | MangosDebian: utf16 is "2 or more bytes" if you want to be really accurate |
| 07:45.18 | Guerin | the problems really kick in when you get the japanese and the chinese and the koreans and the taiwanese arguing over whose zhongwen glyphs get to come first in the spec |
| 07:45.22 | Zta | Only a few. |
| 07:45.23 | Guerin | and so on ... |
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| 07:45.29 | Zta | Writing the code would definitely take longer. |
| 07:45.38 | Dewi | MangosDebian: but in the real world utf-16 is almost always exactly 2 bytes per char |
| 07:45.43 | MangosDebian | Dewi: ahh ok. and utfX is a subset of unicode? |
| 07:45.58 | Dewi | MangosDebian: these are the names of a few encoding systems |
| 07:46.38 | MangosDebian | but why then is iso8859-1 also known as latin1? thats whats kickin my butt |
| 07:46.45 | Guerin | heh |
| 07:46.52 | MangosDebian | too many damn aliases heh |
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| 07:46.53 | Dewi | MangosDebian: "unicode" is like a big map of every character in every writing system in the world. they have numbers, but they don't have binary representations. The encodings, from iso-8859-* to utf-8 to ucs-2 all specify binary encodings |
| 07:47.00 | Guerin | look long enough into the abyss, the abyss will look into you |
| 07:47.06 | gonzaloaf | hello, I use debian lenny, I have updated all my pkgs 2 days ago, how can I downgrade amarok and all its dependencies? because the 1.4.6 debian version is working very bad for me |
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| 07:47.24 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: no. Downgrade doesn't work. Give up on amarok. |
| 07:47.26 | Dewi | MangosDebian: it's called latin-1 sometimes purely because people like to have a more sensible name than iso8859-1 for it |
| 07:47.27 | MangosDebian | Guerin: ain't that the truth |
| 07:47.46 | gonzaloaf | Guerin, is the best audio player :( |
| 07:47.57 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: not right now it isn't. |
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| 07:48.18 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: lenny will catch up in time - this is what you get for running Testing. |
| 07:48.20 | gonzaloaf | Guerin, maybe Debian isnt the right distro |
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| 07:48.27 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: maybe you're not the right user. |
| 07:48.32 | Dewi | heh |
| 07:48.33 | gonzaloaf | Guerin, I am |
| 07:48.41 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: then use. Don't blame your tools. |
| 07:48.48 | Dewi | gonzaloaf: sometimes stuff breaks in testing, that's why it's called testing |
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| 07:49.11 | Guerin | if you want bullet-proof, use stable; otherwise you gets to roll the dice and take your chances. |
| 07:49.22 | Dewi | aye. |
| 07:49.31 | gonzaloaf | Guerin, I am just angry... because I like do my things listen to music |
| 07:49.49 | Guerin | gonzaloaf: what's preventing you from listening to music? |
| 07:49.57 | Guerin | it's not like there's a shortage of other players |
| 07:50.09 | MangosDebian | heck, even the cli can play music :) |
| 07:50.12 | gonzaloaf | so theres no way to get back to my previous amarok version? |
| 07:50.28 | Dewi | gonzaloaf: you could also look at seeing if your problem is fixable. |
| 07:50.33 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: yes, use snapshot.debian.net with aptitude to install the old version. |
| 07:51.13 | gonzaloaf | Dewi, I have tried many tweaks |
| 07:51.14 | Dewi | dondelelcaro: oh, like another version compiled for lenny? |
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| 07:51.21 | Guerin | Dewi: except the kde libs are probably broken |
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| 07:51.27 | Guerin | err |
| 07:51.28 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: |
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| 07:51.48 | gonzaloaf | Also my gnome doesnt play any system sound anymore |
| 07:51.49 | gonzaloaf | :( |
| 07:52.00 | dondelelcaro | Dewi: no, like the version immediately preceeding |
| 07:52.44 | gonzaloaf | Guerin, well I know.. I'm using xmms right now, but it is conformist |
| 07:52.44 | Dewi | dondelelcaro: right. just checking you don't mean from stable or oldstable |
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| 07:53.06 | Dewi | gonzaloaf: no, winamp is conformist |
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| 07:53.20 | Dewi | actually no |
| 07:53.21 | Dewi | WMP |
| 07:53.23 | Dewi | or itunes |
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| 07:53.37 | gonzaloaf | Dewi, uding winamp supposed use winbugs... so it would be worst |
| 07:53.37 | Dewi | if you really want to not conform you're going to have to write your own |
| 07:54.27 | MangosDebian | Dewi: hey, back off winamp! lol |
| 07:54.57 | Dewi | MangosDebian: there was a time when it was the most popular player, I believe |
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| 07:55.01 | MangosDebian | Dewi: its WMP or ITunes and I don't care for either. Winamp been around since before AOL pwnt their wallets |
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| 07:55.18 | Dewi | MangosDebian: yeah I used winamp before, during, and after its popularity peak |
| 07:55.22 | Dewi | MangosDebian: but I don't anymore |
| 07:55.26 | MangosDebian | as was HoTMaiL |
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| 07:56.06 | MangosDebian | Dewi: its my favorite for windows by far. Although I don't like all the useless internet/itune'ish junk they added |
| 07:56.34 | MangosDebian | Dewi: these days it seems that programmers job is to ensure that everything you do opens a url to harvest filenames for evidence for riaa |
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| 07:57.17 | Dewi | MangosDebian: heh. I don't mind its functionality; I stopped using it because it loses its settings all the damn time. It would be nice if there was a good open source player for windows |
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| 07:57.50 | Dewi | MangosDebian: foobar2000 isn't technically open source but still quite community-oriented so I sue that |
| 07:57.55 | Dewi | er, use |
| 07:58.01 | Dewi | anyway I think it's about home time |
| 07:58.23 | SlayerXP | MangosDebian: http://tinyurl.com/yr6vj6 |
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| 07:58.59 | MangosDebian | SlayerXP: lol |
| 07:59.01 | Dewi | have fun, kids |
| 07:59.14 | Dewi | SlayerXP: hahaha |
| 07:59.32 | MangosDebian | red hat ;) |
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| 07:59.44 | szymon_g | hi |
| 08:00.18 | user1_ | how do i use iptables-restore to load a firewall file? |
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| 08:06.02 | vaq | metbsd: or add a line in crontab @reboot SCRIPT - @startup script |
| 08:06.04 | MangosDebian | metbsd: interfaces post-up command or similar |
| 08:06.05 | dondelelcaro | qrck: below the shebang, add a set -x; you'll then see what it's doing. |
| 08:06.16 | qrck | ok |
| 08:06.17 | qrck | i'll try |
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| 08:06.36 | MangosDebian | metbsd: rc.local is option too, but that comes up way after networking and would be considered insecure |
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| 08:07.09 | metbsd | i put rules into a r/o by root only file |
| 08:07.41 | MangosDebian | metbsd: man interfaces, you probably best off using a up/down or post-up/pre-down hooks or similar |
| 08:08.30 | MangosDebian | metbsd: or apt-get install shorewall, spend a day reading how to use it and let it manage all that jazz for you |
| 08:08.50 | metbsd | can i spend 10 minutes reading it and manage to use it? |
| 08:09.01 | vaq | Give it a try? |
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| 08:09.20 | MangosDebian | metbsd: hmmm, maybe 30min. assuming nobody gives you a hint about the default non working behaviour ;) |
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| 08:10.22 | MangosDebian | metbsd: /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/ has files you pick and choose and copy to /etc/shorewall. just saved you an hour :) |
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| 08:10.34 | MangosDebian | I accept paypal btw |
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| 08:11.45 | MangosDebian | metbsd: may I suggest that you spend more than 10 minutes configuring your first line of defense though |
| 08:12.13 | Crypticfortune | anyone familiar with getting the optical out to work on an Envy24PT soundcard? (I just borrowed some optical-equipt speakers and am trying, but failing, to get any sound out of them). analog works fine.... |
| 08:13.12 | qrck | err, i got the /etc/init.d/apache2 script working now, but the logs tells me it couldn't create SSLMutex in /var/run/apache2 |
| 08:13.55 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, so using snapshot I can get the old version of amarok? |
| 08:13.56 | qrck | oh wow |
| 08:13.57 | MangosDebian | qrck: ls -l /var/run |
| 08:14.06 | qrck | i just had to create the directory |
| 08:14.26 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: yes. |
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| 08:15.20 | Glaucus | Ok this is pretty big, I manage several servers, some of them under the .ir ( Iran ) tdl domain, I can't get any of them to resolve |
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| 08:15.32 | Glaucus | I can't resolve the .ir tdl either |
| 08:16.00 | vaq | Glaucus: Are you using your ISP's DNS server? |
| 08:16.09 | MangosDebian | Glaucus: you manage several servers and you come here for help?! |
| 08:16.11 | Glaucus | using afraid.org |
| 08:16.20 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, doest it work for packages? |
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| 08:17.12 | Glaucus | I have no idea, how do I contact Iranian authorities to tell them some .ir domains of mine are not resolving ? |
| 08:17.13 | MangosDebian | Glaucus: let me get this stright, you dont trust your ISP's dns, nor the 13 root servers, with military level security, but you trust "afraid.org" for your dns?! |
| 08:17.17 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: if it didn't, I wouldn't have told you about it |
| 08:17.58 | dondelelcaro | Glaucus: uh... what domains are these? |
| 08:18.03 | MangosDebian | Glaucus: hell, ill open up 53 for you, you can trust my dns right? |
| 08:18.11 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: well, he's afraid, so what can you do? |
| 08:18.27 | MangosDebian | heh |
| 08:18.28 | Glaucus | well, the dns is registered by someone else, one of the domains is faith.ir |
| 08:18.51 | Glaucus | it's as if the domain does not exist anymore |
| 08:18.53 | qrck | it was the run_on_boot option set twice which irritated the apache2 script and a permission problem |
| 08:18.58 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: I really like their main page "afraid.org has been un-interrupted for hundreds of days at a time" |
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| 08:19.30 | wols_ | my home dnsmasq has been uninterrupted for hunderds of days too, sometimes :) |
| 08:19.55 | MangosDebian | its the down for 2 weeks after a major pwnage that they don't mention probably |
| 08:20.32 | vaq | Glaucus: my dig says faith.is doesn't exist. No SOA record. |
| 08:20.33 | MangosDebian | i will never understand how someone can be gullable enough to ever use some 3rd party dns. just blows my mind |
| 08:20.48 | dondelelcaro | Glaucus: yes, it's because ns1.nic.ir is no longer delegating to ns1.afraid.org for whatever reason. |
| 08:20.51 | MangosDebian | vaq: .ir no .is? |
| 08:21.05 | vaq | ir* |
| 08:21.24 | dondelelcaro | Glaucus: so you need to talk to NICIR and get it sorted out with them |
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| 08:23.37 | faber4 | hi everybody |
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| 08:27.46 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: you seem very trustworthy when it comes to querying unknown dns. Hopefully faith.ir isnt related to terrorists :) |
| 08:28.02 | desker | how do i set proxy server in ice weasel? |
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| 08:28.45 | MangosDebian | desker: options->advanced->network->connection->settings if its anything like firefox |
| 08:28.47 | xand | desker: it's in edit -> preferences on the advanced tab |
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| 08:28.59 | xand | MangosDebian: options is a windows thing :p |
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| 08:29.09 | MangosDebian | xand: ahh |
| 08:29.12 | xand | but iceweasel is identical to firefox except for branding |
| 08:29.22 | MangosDebian | and options/preferences :) |
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| 08:29.32 | dotz | how do i install the basic X11 libraries libXext, libX11, libXt, libSM, libICE ? |
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| 08:29.48 | xand | MangosDebian: no, it's the same |
| 08:30.02 | xand | MangosDebian: firefox on linux is different to on windows |
| 08:30.10 | dondelelcaro | MangosDebian: if people are going to actually care about queries, they usually shouldn't be running DNS servers |
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| 08:30.38 | desker | MangosDebian, xand, thks, got it. |
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| 08:31.03 | wols_ | I'm sure the chinese gov cares very much about any queries you do from mainland china on their servers |
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| 08:31.19 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: well, surely the queries to dns are a primary source for "flags" |
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| 08:32.12 | desker | wols_, even on queries about debian? |
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| 08:32.37 | MangosDebian | wols_: no doubt. that dns could have landed some people in jail for life just cause. Heck, im sure being on irc and having someone even utter a word on their blacklist raises flags. like democracy or something |
| 08:33.56 | dondelelcaro | considering the number of infected computers in china which are sending spam, I rather doubt they're capable of following up on dns queries or random speach like that. |
| 08:34.05 | metbsd | if i put a firewall.sh in init.d, will it be executed? |
| 08:34.09 | metbsd | duing boot |
| 08:34.15 | desker | MangosDebian, you are wrong. free election is being held on the villages in China. |
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| 08:34.40 | desker | dondelelcaro, i suggest you stick to debian. |
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| 08:34.56 | metbsd | i'm from china |
| 08:35.00 | MangosDebian | desker: well, didnt mean "democracy" was bad, was aiming for a typical word that the "great firewall of china" might flag on |
| 08:35.01 | metbsd | irc works fine here |
| 08:35.17 | Orakio | How do I tell apt-get not to install x11 and it's buddies when doing dist-upgrade? |
| 08:35.27 | dondelelcaro | desker: ? |
| 08:35.31 | desker | hear that, irc works fine in China. |
| 08:35.50 | desker | dondelelcaro, you were showing your ignorance and prejudice. |
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| 08:36.02 | MangosDebian | him or me? |
| 08:36.04 | dondelelcaro | desker: uh... no. I suggest you reread again what I said without blinders. |
| 08:36.07 | Orakio | try the ircq networks full of chinese |
| 08:36.23 | casper__ | please tell me a manager partition with gui :) |
| 08:36.40 | desker | dondelelcaro, it was self-explanatory. |
| 08:37.04 | casper__ | *partition manager |
| 08:37.32 | dondelelcaro | desker: hardly; the point was that it's not possible for a government to actually followup on random text that is being sent through the network, especially when they are unable to followup on spam being sent through the same. |
| 08:37.32 | Orakio | anyone know how I can tell debian not to install x11? |
| 08:37.48 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: how do you know they are unable to follow spam? |
| 08:38.00 | MangosDebian | Orakio: you may need base x11 if a package needs it your installing though |
| 08:38.00 | wols_ | what incentive would there be for them to do so? |
| 08:38.12 | metbsd | if i put some script in /etc/network, will it get executioned at booting time |
| 08:38.15 | Orakio | it doesn't need x11 |
| 08:38.19 | Orakio | It's a bloody dns server |
| 08:38.24 | MangosDebian | wols_: information is power. |
| 08:38.31 | dondelelcaro | wols_: the point is being able to follow up on it; if someone was actually going to go after that sort of thing, someone could trivially DoS the entire system |
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| 08:38.40 | MatBoy | !moo |
| 08:38.40 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 08:38.50 | Jonbo | moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate - (6.0.6000) up: 2days 4hrs 34mins 52secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz at 3201MHz (5% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB res: 1680x1050 32bit 59Hz ram: 801/2045.9MB (39.13%) [||||------] hdd: C:\ 200.3GB/298.09GB D:\ 231.19GB/298.09GB net: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - 100MB/s 1.11GB In 81.27MB Out |
| 08:38.52 | MangosDebian | Orakio: is it trying to install? or already installed? |
| 08:38.54 | desker | dondelelcaro, as i said, let's just stick to debian. this is no place to comment on China and her IT capability. |
| 08:39.05 | Orakio | It want's to install it on dist-upgrade |
| 08:39.09 | dondelelcaro | desker: the point has nothing to do with china at all |
| 08:39.11 | MangosDebian | Jonbo: tell me you did that manually |
| 08:39.30 | wols_ | MangosDebian: ehat are the odds? |
| 08:39.31 | Orakio | Ok I figured it out |
| 08:39.34 | Orakio | bitchx |
| 08:39.44 | MangosDebian | wols_: slim ;) Shall we test this theory? |
| 08:39.45 | Orakio | It uses x now which is retarded |
| 08:40.13 | wols_ | !pal Orakio |
| 08:40.18 | Orakio | I like it when it was the vim of command line irc clients |
| 08:40.21 | dondelelcaro | Orakio: you'll probably have better luck using irssi instead. |
| 08:40.26 | MangosDebian | mooooooo! |
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| 08:40.37 | MangosDebian | mind the spam guys, sec |
| 08:40.41 | dondelelcaro | Orakio: and bitchx really hasn't ever been the vim of CLI irc clients, unfortunatly. |
| 08:40.45 | desker | dondelelcaro, "considering the number of infected computers in china", was china not mentioned there? |
| 08:40.49 | MangosDebian | !moo |
| 08:40.49 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 08:40.50 | Jonbo | moo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate - (6.0.6000) up: 2days 4hrs 37mins cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz at 3201MHz (2% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB res: 1680x1050 32bit 59Hz ram: 837/2045.9MB (40.91%) [||||------] hdd: C:\ 200.3GB/298.09GB D:\ 231.19GB/298.09GB net: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - 100MB/s 1.11GB In 81.28MB Out |
| 08:40.57 | MangosDebian | confirmed at least |
| 08:40.58 | Orakio | Well I don't need it at all, I can use telnet for irc if I need it gthat bad |
| 08:41.04 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.14 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: your call there |
| 08:41.14 | dondelelcaro | desker: you could insert any country in there you want; china happens to just be a convenient example. |
| 08:41.29 | Orakio | I have a bigger resolution and more ram |
| 08:41.40 | metbsd | i'm in china now, whats up |
| 08:41.46 | metbsd | what are you saying about china |
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| 08:42.11 | MangosDebian | metbsd: that or your proxying through it and lying your face off |
| 08:42.22 | desker | dondelelcaro, china just happen to be your prejudice. |
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| 08:42.40 | wols_ | MangosDebian: I still subscribe tot he theory him being from .sg but incognito |
| 08:42.53 | metbsd | i really am in china, no proxy server being used |
| 08:42.53 | dondelelcaro | desker: no, it happened to be the country that wols_ brought up. |
| 08:43.02 | desker | dondelelcaro, metbsd is in china, find out more from him. |
| 08:43.13 | metbsd | chinese government encourge people to use irc |
| 08:43.18 | wols_ | desker: and I brought it up cause their network surveillance is most public |
| 08:43.18 | metbsd | so it's not blocked |
| 08:43.35 | MangosDebian | wols_: well, he has been rather "careless" with his nick/ip reuptation in #debian, which tends to suggest that they dont care since its probably a bounce....call me a conspiracy theorist, but I consider it to be statistically realistic :) |
| 08:44.02 | desker | wols_, the CIA and the FBI are very active in it too. |
| 08:44.07 | wols_ | MangosDebian: there are always a few people like him in #debian any time of the year. so no |
| 08:44.12 | optik | could anyone please help me with converting these rpm based drivers to debian (the stock kernel drivers megaraid1 are quite old, and dont detect my card) http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_scsi/megaraid_scsi_3202e/index.html?remote=1&locale=EN |
| 08:44.14 | Guerin | desker: the helicopters are coming |
| 08:44.15 | wols_ | e.g. ma3x, etc |
| 08:44.20 | desker | surveillance, i mean. |
| 08:44.26 | desker | Guerin, i'm scared. |
| 08:44.26 | wols_ | noborusan, the list goes on |
| 08:44.29 | MangosDebian | wols_: with a channel of 700+, im guessing were waaaay more than that :) |
| 08:44.32 | dondelelcaro | desker: possibly, but there's no human followup to untargetted survelance. |
| 08:44.38 | Guerin | desker: you want to believe. |
| 08:44.41 | MangosDebian | considering a 75%+ inactive |
| 08:44.51 | desker | Guerin, i believe. |
| 08:45.04 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: how do you know? |
| 08:45.27 | desker | Guerin, fyi. |
| 08:45.30 | Guerin | honestly, people, enough with the conspiracy theories already |
| 08:45.31 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: sorry for getting you into this mess heh |
| 08:45.47 | Guerin | TINC |
| 08:45.47 | dondelelcaro | wols_: because there's no way to know if a real human was behind the event that triggered the surveilance |
| 08:45.50 | Guerin | motherfuckers |
| 08:45.53 | wols_ | Guerin: PETA complained about the sheep, so now you use happless people abducted on irc? |
| 08:46.10 | Guerin | wols_: if you want to call them `people', I suppose. |
| 08:46.28 | dondelelcaro | wols_: if someone was going to go after people with that, it'd get out, and people would DoS the system |
| 08:46.47 | x3on | hi, can anyone help in choosing whether to use Stable or Testing |
| 08:46.58 | wols_ | you mean like the echelon thing with "bomb cia kgb" etc in the sigs? such a DOS? |
| 08:47.02 | dondelelcaro | it's like the old ECHELON keywords if you remember them. |
| 08:47.10 | dondelelcaro | wols_: right |
| 08:47.11 | Guerin | exactly |
| 08:47.12 | wols_ | last I checked, echelon still runs |
| 08:47.22 | MangosDebian | x3on: if you don't know, safe to assume stable would be best. unless your already a dplg/apt guru |
| 08:47.41 | desker | hey, stop talking rubbish and answer a proper question. x3on has one for you guys. |
| 08:47.47 | dondelelcaro | wols_: oh, it may run; my point was that they can't do human followup to it. |
| 08:47.53 | dondelelcaro | x3on: the answer is stable. |
| 08:47.58 | wols_ | x3on: stable |
| 08:47.59 | Orakio | Hello Mr cia/fbi man indescriminately watching my data transmissions, I have a matter/antimatter bomb and I'm going to blow up your planet, please arrent me and torture me because actually I like listening to metallica all day in my room and starving myself because I have anorexia, thanks. |
| 08:48.03 | wols_ | desker: happy now? |
| 08:48.20 | desker | wols_, i am always happy. |
| 08:48.23 | Guerin | Orakio: don't forget the cutting |
| 08:48.43 | MangosDebian | Orakio: lol, im listening to metallica atm actually :) good call |
| 08:48.44 | wols_ | and metallica is not angsty music. go with the times. more emo |
| 08:49.08 | Guerin | i recommend Evanescence for something to make you want to end it all |
| 08:49.12 | Orakio | I thought it was metallica that they used to torture people in that unspellable bay |
| 08:49.28 | x3on | well, my laptop is about 3 years old, so Stable would certainly cover the hardware side of things. I am more concerned about running on outdated software |
| 08:49.36 | dondelelcaro | x3on: stable isn't all that outdated |
| 08:49.57 | wols_ | what does outdated mean in software temrs anyways? |
| 08:49.57 | dondelelcaro | x3on: and in general, if there are specific things that you need new versions of, someone else does too, and it gets backported. |
| 08:50.01 | metbsd | what os should i put on my laptop. my laptop is getting slow |
| 08:50.08 | dondelelcaro | wols_: the bits decay, man. |
| 08:50.13 | Guerin | metbsd: minix |
| 08:50.18 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: Debian, of course. |
| 08:50.20 | Guerin | ]mguaranteed fastest OS evar |
| 08:50.21 | MangosDebian | metbsd: DR DOS |
| 08:50.58 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: right. that explains those 5months windows installs. Does debian inject their bits with artificial preservers? They don't seem to decay that fast |
| 08:51.01 | x3on | wols_: i must have the latest version of everything the very moment it is released |
| 08:51.16 | wols_ | x3on: run gentoo. HTH. HAND |
| 08:51.20 | x3on | !!! |
| 08:51.20 | dpkg | methinks ! is I'm not your fucking csh prompt. |
| 08:51.20 | xand | x3on: have fun fixing your system then |
| 08:51.27 | x3on | ;] |
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| 08:51.48 | harpal | how can I get all chat done using yahoo messenger? |
| 08:51.55 | MangosDebian | !!! =~ s/fucking/fscking/ |
| 08:51.55 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called '!!' to modify, MangosDebian |
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| 08:52.05 | Guerin | metbsd: no |
| 08:52.06 | MangosDebian | guess that ones hardcoded :) |
| 08:52.09 | Guerin | MangosDebian: no |
| 08:52.13 | xand | MangosDebian: what do file system checks have to do with it? |
| 08:52.19 | Guerin | MangosDebian: that's stupid |
| 08:52.22 | harpal | yahoo messenger may be on windows |
| 08:52.34 | MangosDebian | xand: seemed more unix'y :) |
| 08:52.35 | Guerin | we support the free and liberal use of proper swearing in hashdweebian |
| 08:52.48 | Guerin | MangosDebian: no, it's more stupider. |
| 08:53.30 | MangosDebian | Guerin: your right, novell and microsoft and google use the word "fucking" as a sign of maturity all the time |
| 08:54.04 | Guerin | MangosDebian: what have Novell, Microsoft and Google got to do with maturity? Or fucking? |
| 08:54.14 | Guerin | MangosDebian: and ITYM you're |
| 08:54.20 | MangosDebian | but hey, freedom of speech so proceed to swear up one side and down the other of me :) |
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| 08:55.22 | wols_ | Guerin: dunno about the others but for MSFT, ask a certain Mr. Ballmer |
| 08:55.39 | MangosDebian | heh |
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| 09:03.23 | AKX | What's the email system de jour? I need multiple domain support, POP and IMAP. |
| 09:03.31 | AKX | *du jour? Dunno. |
| 09:03.39 | MangosDebian | exim4+courier? |
| 09:03.48 | Guerin | exim4+dovecot |
| 09:03.53 | Guerin | courier is so last week |
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| 09:03.58 | Guerin | and it's hell to get auth working |
| 09:04.16 | MangosDebian | probably the most featurefull of them all though |
| 09:04.19 | AKX | Okay, and I can, with reasonable effort, get exim4+dovecot work with multiple domains and all? |
| 09:04.30 | MangosDebian | ldap,pam,you name it, courier does it |
| 09:04.35 | AKX | MangosDebian, I don't need that many features |
| 09:04.38 | AKX | And I won't, either |
| 09:04.43 | xand | I think I use uw-imapd |
| 09:04.52 | MangosDebian | AKX: probably don't want curiouer then |
| 09:04.56 | Guerin | AKX: depends on your definition of reasonable, but a reasonable person with reasonable experience could reasonably expect to do a reasonable job reasonably easily. |
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| 09:07.40 | MangosDebian | heh, "10 Billion-Trillion-Trillion-Carat Diamond Found in Space" |
| 09:07.54 | Guerin | MangosDebian: dibs |
| 09:07.56 | MangosDebian | 2,500miles across |
| 09:08.30 | MangosDebian | don't want that sucker hiting us at hypersonic speed thats for sure |
| 09:08.48 | MangosDebian | bullet vs. apple good comparison? |
| 09:08.57 | AKX | Apple wins. |
| 09:09.01 | AKX | Reality distortion field and all. |
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| 09:09.38 | Guerin | AKX: no, it only *looks* like it wins |
| 09:09.51 | wols_ | MangosDebian: what do you think deBeers will do when that one hitas us? They'd have to announce bankruptcy! |
| 09:09.52 | AKX | That's good enough for me. |
| 09:10.14 | Guerin | they need to send bruce willis up there to armageddon that shit |
| 09:10.16 | MangosDebian | wols_: lol |
| 09:10.31 | AKX | Guerin: If something that's 2500 miles across is trying to hit me, I'm content with it only _looking_ like it hits an apple instead. |
| 09:10.41 | MangosDebian | fortunatly, its only 50 light years away |
| 09:10.52 | Guerin | AKX: heh |
| 09:10.56 | MangosDebian | http://www.diamonds.net/news/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=9219 fyi |
| 09:11.21 | subx | what is the name of that command driven tool what can play audio files and stream radio? |
| 09:11.33 | dondelelcaro | subx: there are lots of them |
| 09:11.41 | Guerin | subx: mplayer is the best |
| 09:11.57 | subx | ok thanks, im having problems with ALSA so need to run some tests |
| 09:12.47 | romano2k | subx: mpg123 ? |
| 09:12.58 | romano2k | mpg123 is a really simple tool to read mp3 files |
| 09:13.05 | romano2k | (local or streaming) |
| 09:13.14 | subx | ok thanks |
| 09:13.15 | Guerin | mpg123 is like a toothpick compared to a swiss army knife |
| 09:13.24 | Guerin | mplayer is king |
| 09:13.34 | subx | i dont like bloat.. |
| 09:13.42 | Guerin | mplayer isn't bloat |
| 09:13.49 | Guerin | it's a fundamental necessity :) |
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| 09:14.29 | romano2k | Guerin: he's looking for a simple tool to make some tests |
| 09:14.39 | Guerin | romano2k: in which case he needs cat(1) |
| 09:14.56 | Guerin | the thing with mplayer is that it has a surfeit of useful diagnostic options |
| 09:15.16 | romano2k | Guerin: i didn't knew |
| 09:15.17 | romano2k | :) |
| 09:15.18 | cahoot_ | subx, to test alsa. aplay |
| 09:15.33 | Guerin | or mplayer -ao alsa |
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| 09:16.12 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: does dpkg have a time conversion? utc -> $tz? |
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| 09:16.34 | cast | i take it theres no way to get dpkg to talk to me without being in a room dpkg is in? |
| 09:16.38 | dondelelcaro | MangosDebian: no, but you can do so easily with date -u; or TZ="Foo/bar" date; |
| 09:16.47 | dondelelcaro | cast: /join #debian-bots if you want |
| 09:16.51 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: ahh cool, thanks |
| 09:17.16 | dondelelcaro | cast: but no, there's no way without being in a channel it's in, primarily for abuse control reasons |
| 09:17.36 | cast | ahh :/ |
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| 09:18.15 | dimir | Moin! |
| 09:18.25 | annkas | I am administrating debian computers on three schools n norway, and I would like to know how the user can create a new openoffice document by right-clicking. Now he can only choose between; ny folder, new text doc,... |
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| 09:19.59 | annkas | what file do I edit to give the users possibilty to create openoffice documents by right-clicking? |
| 09:20.29 | dondelelcaro | annkas: really depends on the file browser you're using, if you tell us that someone (not me, since I don't use gnome or kde) may tell you the answer. |
| 09:20.36 | DawnLight | question: can a low cmos battery do some otherwise unexplainable wierd funky shit? |
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| 09:21.02 | annkas | dondelelcaro: I'll join #kde then |
| 09:21.31 | holycow | DawnLight, low power will do all sorts of bizarre things to circuits *nod* |
| 09:21.48 | DawnLight | annkas: right clicking where? |
| 09:22.11 | annkas | DawnLight: on the Desktop, or in a file browser window.. |
| 09:22.41 | vaq | annkas: does the directory your trying to create a file in have rw permissions? |
| 09:22.48 | vaq | annkas: chmod 777 dir |
| 09:23.31 | annkas | vaq: do you use kde? |
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| 09:24.45 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: hmmm, would appear there was an earthquake 4hours ago in Japan, and another 6+ like 10minutes ago |
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| 09:25.04 | subx | i installed a minimal debian etch install but im without sound, to get sound / ALSA working do i need to recompile the kernel with the ALSA modules ? |
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| 09:25.06 | MangosDebian | 1:13:28(UTC) |
| 09:25.14 | Marenz | !tell marenz hardware |
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| 09:25.21 | Guerin | subx: no. |
| 09:25.23 | Marenz | !hardware |
| 09:25.23 | dpkg | Before buying -any- hardware, make sure it's supported by all operating systems you want to use. See: the hardware howto. Ask me about howtos. or if you ask "Hey, why does my card suck so much in Linux," we have to say, "because your card manufacturer can't decide whether they're in the hardware or software business.", or check http://lhd.datapower.com/, http://linuxhardware.net/ and http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html |
| 09:25.27 | Guerin | subx: /msg dpkg sound |
| 09:25.32 | subx | thnx |
| 09:25.48 | Marenz | hmhmhm there was a bot cmd to tell me which cmds tell me what about my hardware |
| 09:26.28 | MangosDebian | Marenz: lspci? |
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| 09:26.45 | MangosDebian | theres a wealth of info in /proc though |
| 09:26.50 | metbsd | those scripts in /etc/init.d will be executed in booting time? |
| 09:26.52 | Marenz | no a cmd for the dpkg bot to tell me all the cmds that output infos |
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| 09:27.08 | MangosDebian | !listvalues lspci |
| 09:27.09 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'lspci' by value (9): audiopci ;; pciids ;; which sound modules ;; woody audio ;; cmd: which module for (.*?) ;; hwcheck ;; whats my hardware ;; ac97 ;; what-wireless. |
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| 09:27.21 | Marenz | !whats my hardware |
| 09:27.21 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
| 09:27.26 | Marenz | thats it ty |
| 09:27.29 | MangosDebian | np |
| 09:27.47 | petemc | metbsd: zless /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz |
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| 09:30.45 | annkas | subx: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss libesd-alsa0 (?) |
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| 09:33.07 | GreaseMonkey | gnight |
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| 09:36.28 | metbsd | omg debian does not execute this tcsh script i put in /etc/init.d! |
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| 09:37.19 | dondelelcaro | uh... it has to be linked from /etc/rc?.d and has to have a name that run-parts likes |
| 09:37.26 | vaq | metbsd: ehmm you need to run update-rc.d |
| 09:37.41 | dondelelcaro | the actual language that the script is written in doesn't matter |
| 09:37.54 | metbsd | i just created a shell script in init.d and chmod +x |
| 09:37.59 | metbsd | not enough? |
| 09:38.03 | vaq | metbsd: update-rc.d scriptname defaults |
| 09:39.16 | MangosDebian | if you remove the links for a script and the defaults it again with update-rc.d, it doesnt get the original start number again does it? |
| 09:39.28 | vaq | metbsd: and next time, before complaining RTFM. |
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| 09:39.36 | MangosDebian | s/the defaults/then "defaults"/ |
| 09:39.51 | metbsd | debian rc.d is just confusing |
| 09:40.06 | vaq | not if you read the manual. |
| 09:40.08 | petemc | you think you should be able to guess how it works? |
| 09:40.18 | MangosDebian | metbsd: SYSV init |
| 09:40.33 | MangosDebian | well, based on |
| 09:40.53 | valdyn | metbsd: /etc/init.d/README |
| 09:41.01 | metbsd | yes in bsd i just put script in /etc/rc.d/ and enable script by "scriptname=yes" in rc.conf |
| 09:41.15 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: that's file-rc; we have that too. |
| 09:41.22 | metbsd | why are there so many boot levels |
| 09:41.26 | metbsd | no |
| 09:41.27 | petemc | metbsd: this isnt bsd, and frankly its getting boring hearing you whine on about bsd |
| 09:41.34 | metbsd | that file-rc controls what to boot in /etc/rc.d |
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| 09:42.23 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: yes, there are multiple methods of specifying how scripts are run at boot. sysv-rc is one, file-rc is another. |
| 09:42.31 | wols_ | metbsd: we know but don't care how BSD works. this is debian. adapat or go back to BSD |
| 09:42.35 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: if you don't like sysv-rc, aptitude install file-rc. |
| 09:42.36 | wols_ | and read about sysvinit. you need it |
| 09:42.53 | MangosDebian | metbsd: bsd doesnt have concept of runlevels? |
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| 09:43.16 | metbsd | MangosDebian, they have single and multiple user mode |
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| 09:43.46 | metbsd | i just find this interesting. im not familar with how debian boots |
| 09:43.46 | _E-bola | How can i check how many cores the system debian is running on has? |
| 09:43.47 | MangosDebian | hmm, always thought all the unix like OS's were the same in that regard. |
| 09:43.53 | _E-bola | without installing an smp core |
| 09:43.55 | _E-bola | do anybody know? |
| 09:44.11 | metbsd | no MangosDebian bsd boots differently, somesaid it's more like slackware |
| 09:44.13 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: sysv-rc is just the default; you can easily change it. |
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| 09:44.18 | SlayerXP | _E-bola: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 09:44.36 | _E-bola | SlayerXP: wont it only list 1 core if kernel isnt smp? |
| 09:45.00 | valdyn | _E-bola: It tells which cpu you have |
| 09:45.05 | MangosDebian | metbsd: well, debian doesn't really take advantage of levels 3 through 5 by default though. more left to the user. 3 would typically be for X, 2 for a console only and 4 and 5 for whatever you can think of using (perhaps maintenence/backup/restore mode) |
| 09:45.08 | _E-bola | well its running on a virtual machine |
| 09:45.11 | _E-bola | so its a bit complicated |
| 09:45.20 | _E-bola | im trying to find out if its possible for debian to see more than 1 core |
| 09:45.27 | _E-bola | the host machine's cpu has 4 cores |
| 09:45.42 | valdyn | _E-bola: i dont think that there's a point in virtual machines having a dual core cpu at all |
| 09:46.03 | _E-bola | valdyn: why is it then a "feature" of the bigger enterprice solutions? |
| 09:46.07 | _E-bola | "virtual-smp" |
| 09:46.10 | metbsd | so if a user belong to a backup group, he can only run level4 or 5? not level3? |
| 09:46.21 | valdyn | _E-bola: 'virtual-smp' is something else |
| 09:46.24 | MangosDebian | metbsd: but in debian, 2 is console and X runlevel since its controlled by the init scripts rather than being depedant on say runlevel 3 |
| 09:46.26 | dondelelcaro | metbsd: users don't change the runlevel |
| 09:46.36 | valdyn | _E-bola: smp is similar but not identical to multicore |
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| 09:46.51 | metbsd | there must be some reason use this kind of booting mechanism |
| 09:47.04 | _E-bola | multi-core/cpy what do you mean? |
| 09:47.09 | HopFlash | Hi! Can someone explain me why the commands df and mount don't show me my "/" dir anymore? |
| 09:47.11 | valdyn | _E-bola: a virtual machine will probably only support one of both. |
| 09:47.31 | MangosDebian | metbsd: no, im saying you are free to use runlevels 3 thorugh 5 for whever you want (3 is a red hat default for X iirc, and 2 would be non X). You specify runlevel via your grub and you can setup some fancy stuff |
| 09:47.36 | valdyn | _E-bola: and you can as easily detect the 2nd cpu when its not just one dual core cpu |
| 09:47.40 | _E-bola | well atm my debian etch system can see 1 xeon cpu |
| 09:47.42 | valdyn | s/can/cant/ |
| 09:47.46 | _E-bola | and only register it as 1 core |
| 09:48.07 | _E-bola | what im trying to fidn out is, if it woudl see more than 1 core |
| 09:48.12 | _E-bola | if i installed an smp kernel |
| 09:48.12 | metbsd | too much for me to learn debian |
| 09:48.21 | MangosDebian | metbsd: in other words, debian doesnt do the same thing as say red hat which uses run levels in a different way (X vs. Console) |
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| 09:50.53 | MangosDebian | damn, got a hair trigger on those |
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| 09:51.09 | _E-bola | Hmm are there no -smp kernels anymore? |
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| 09:51.14 | _E-bola | i can onyl find the normal ones |
| 09:51.16 | _E-bola | Running etch |
| 09:51.21 | dondelelcaro | _E-bola: all kernels are smp kernels |
| 09:51.23 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: you just double click or something? |
| 09:51.29 | dondelelcaro | MangosDebian: no, I just /abr foo |
| 09:51.31 | _E-bola | ahh ok |
| 09:51.34 | valdyn | -386 too? |
| 09:51.36 | Techdeck | Do you guys know a good wiki program that uses php4? (mediawiki seems nice, but it requires PHP5) |
| 09:51.52 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: never heard of it. irssi script? |
| 09:52.05 | dondelelcaro | MangosDebian: yes |
| 09:52.11 | dondelelcaro | it's called auto_bleh |
| 09:52.18 | MangosDebian | . o O (always wondered what they used) |
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| 09:52.30 | MangosDebian | thanks |
| 09:53.03 | dondelelcaro | http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/home_modules/irc/.irssi/scripts/auto_bleh.pl |
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| 09:53.59 | Techdeck | anyone? |
| 09:54.36 | DawnLight | Techdeck: just came in, can you repeat? |
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| 09:55.01 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: quite the script :) |
| 09:55.04 | Techdeck | DawnLight, do you know a good wiki engine like 'mediawiki' that doesn't require PHP5? |
| 09:55.44 | DawnLight | no php? i don't know, people rely on php these days |
| 09:55.50 | MangosDebian | Techdeck: that leaves what, perl? |
| 09:56.07 | dondelelcaro | Techdeck: why not just use php5? |
| 09:56.12 | DawnLight | but why not php5? |
| 09:56.34 | Techdeck | because I have about 60 sites built on PHP4 :p |
| 09:57.05 | MangosDebian | Techdeck: migrate them to php5. php4 unsupport by years end for security iirc |
| 09:57.06 | wols_ | Techdeck: then I suggest you start upgrading them since PHP4 is gone at the end of year |
| 09:57.08 | dondelelcaro | well, considering that php4 is being EOLed, it may be time to consider upgrading them |
| 09:57.16 | MangosDebian | heh |
| 09:57.49 | DawnLight | its time to move on, Techdeck |
| 09:57.58 | Techdeck | tell that to my company |
| 09:58.06 | Techdeck | until then, I need a PHP4 wiki :) |
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| 09:58.31 | DawnLight | now thats consensus |
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| 09:58.48 | dondelelcaro | Techdeck: well, there are a lot of them, but good luck. |
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| 09:58.55 | Techdeck | which ones do you recommend? |
| 09:59.19 | dondelelcaro | ikiwiki, but it's not php. |
| 09:59.31 | Techdeck | I don't mind it not being PHP |
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| 09:59.42 | Techdeck | thanks, I'll look into it |
| 09:59.56 | MangosDebian | never did understand all the fuss for wiki's |
| 10:00.10 | cafuego | Techdeck: you can run php5-cgi on a mod_php4 apache without hassle |
| 10:00.11 | wols_ | why don't you just upgrade to php5? as said: sooner or later you have to now. and it's due dilligence to start early with it |
| 10:00.30 | Techdeck | ew. |
| 10:00.43 | Techdeck | wols_, I said the same thing, but the company won't approve it |
| 10:00.44 | MangosDebian | especially for 60 sites! thats a lot of converting/testing to do before years end |
| 10:00.48 | Techdeck | no time, time == money |
| 10:00.53 | Techdeck | I don't mind |
| 10:00.59 | Techdeck | they'll be fscked with it in the end of the year :p |
| 10:01.05 | Techdeck | their problem |
| 10:01.08 | MangosDebian | Techdeck: vs. time of recovery from all 60 accounts getting hacked? |
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| 10:01.23 | DawnLight | but whats preventing you from using php5? can't it be installed on the same server with php4? |
| 10:01.27 | Techdeck | MangosDebian, I agree yet again but it's not my decision |
| 10:01.40 | Techdeck | DawnLight, apt-get seems to dislike it |
| 10:01.53 | Techdeck | it will remove php4 if I'll install 5 |
| 10:01.59 | julian_home | Jul 16 19:56:16 julian-desktop kernel: usb 2-1: device not accepting address 12, error -110 -> occurs when i plug in my 1gig Rundisk usb drive 2.0 usb speed. Any thoughts to why? |
| 10:02.13 | julian_home | i run debian etch amd64bit |
| 10:02.25 | julian_home | 2.6.18-amd64 kernel |
| 10:02.29 | Techdeck | ikiwiki it is :p |
| 10:02.52 | MangosDebian | julian_home: try a different slot? |
| 10:02.57 | valdyn | julian_home: why's that message a problem? |
| 10:03.11 | Techdeck | Failed to fetch http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ikiwiki/ikiwiki_2.00_all.deb 404 Not Found |
| 10:03.12 | Techdeck | ouch |
| 10:03.14 | MangosDebian | julian_home: ive had odd errors on bad ports before, but may not be your cause of course |
| 10:03.21 | robboplus | apt-get update |
| 10:03.25 | julian_home | Jul 16 19:58:44 julian-desktop kernel: usb 2-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 10:03.27 | cafuego | !info ikiwiki etch |
| 10:03.31 | dpkg | ikiwiki: (a wiki compiler), section web, is optional. Version: 1.33.3 (etch), Packaged size: 266 kB, Installed size: 2228 kB |
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| 10:03.36 | julian_home | thats the new error that occured when i tried a new slot :S |
| 10:03.48 | cafuego | !info ikiwiki |
| 10:03.50 | dpkg | ikiwiki: (a wiki compiler), section web, is optional. Version: 2.3 (sid), Packaged size: 570 kB, Installed size: 3820 kB |
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| 10:04.03 | cafuego | You run lenny on the production box? |
| 10:04.03 | julian_home | My HP Officejet works 100% ok when i plug in my XD mem card and it is via usb |
| 10:04.19 | valdyn | !info php4 etch |
| 10:04.22 | dpkg | php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 6:4.4.4-8+etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB |
| 10:04.25 | valdyn | !info php4 lenny |
| 10:04.31 | dpkg | php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 6:4.4.4-9 (lenny), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB |
| 10:04.43 | MangosDebian | julian_home: well, would help if I know what the error meant :) You using a memstick->usb adaptor? |
| 10:05.02 | julian_home | that is for the HP officejet. |
| 10:05.11 | julian_home | But my usb pen disk is a standard one |
| 10:05.31 | julian_home | I think it is pendisk related. Thnaks for you input MangosDebian |
| 10:05.54 | MangosDebian | np, try a diff memstick in it |
| 10:06.30 | julian_home | bummer. same error with a diff model |
| 10:07.09 | MangosDebian | so its the adaptor? |
| 10:07.15 | julian_home | Correct! |
| 10:07.19 | julian_home | thanks again! |
| 10:07.28 | MangosDebian | chitty. np |
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| 10:14.10 | alexIdoia | does anyone know what key representation is used in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ ? |
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| 10:14.26 | alexIdoia | such as <AE01> or <TLDE> ? |
| 10:14.28 | vaq | How do i exclude stuff in mirror.list when i want to setup a local debian mirror? Like if want to exclude KDE/GNOME and so on |
| 10:14.43 | alexIdoia | I tried to google for it but I did not find any description or table of them |
| 10:15.23 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: perhaps something in /usr/share/doc/xkb? |
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| 10:15.38 | subx | does anybody have any online guides for setting up ALSA / OSS on debian etch, /msg dpkg didnt give me enough detail |
| 10:15.39 | MangosDebian | or whatever base package xkb is from |
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| 10:17.45 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: no /usr/share/doc/xkb |
| 10:17.58 | Bac0n | hi i have some problem with lenny.... its utf8 and my web disk is 8859-1 ... im not sure how to solve this .. |
| 10:18.03 | MangosDebian | !+find xkb |
| 10:18.04 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'xkb' (14): fbxkb ;; libxkbfile-dev ;; libxkbfile1 ;; libxkbfile1-dbg ;; libxkbsel-dev ;; libxkbui-dev ;; libxkbui1 ;; libxkbui1-dbg ;; xfce4-xkb-plugin ;; xkb-data ;; xkb-data-legacy ;; xkbsel ;; xkbset ;; xxkb. |
| 10:18.20 | MangosDebian | hmmm, not what i wanted perhaps :) sec |
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| 10:18.47 | cafuego | !find bin/xkb |
| 10:18.54 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/xkb' (3): (/usr/bin/{xkbset|xkbset-gui}) in x11/xkbset ;; (/usr/bin/{xkbsel|xkbsel-aw|xkbseldb}) in x11/xkbsel ;; (/usr/bin/{xkbbell|xkbcomp|xkbevd|...}) in x11/xbase-clients. |
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| 10:19.24 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: try: dpkg -s `which xkb`? |
| 10:19.59 | MangosDebian | err -S |
| 10:20.14 | MangosDebian | i always mix them up damnit |
| 10:20.38 | alexIdoia | which ouput the same to me :) |
| 10:21.04 | MangosDebian | what package is it from though? |
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| 10:21.21 | alexIdoia | no idea |
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| 10:22.01 | MangosDebian | well, guess its one of the above packages, but /usr/share/doc/<package> might have more info |
| 10:22.17 | MangosDebian | sorry, i don't do X much :) |
| 10:22.42 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: how can I push a key and see its keycode ? that would help me |
| 10:23.17 | MangosDebian | good question, sec |
| 10:23.32 | MangosDebian | getkeycodes? |
| 10:23.32 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: you know the number of the keycode: 182, 183 etc |
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| 10:23.54 | MangosDebian | hmmm, thats just the mapping it would appear |
| 10:23.57 | rossMoHaX | how to define fallback locale other than en? |
| 10:24.17 | MangosDebian | showkey? |
| 10:24.22 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 10:24.37 | rossMoHaX | I mean if no translation found in current locale, then use translataion from another one, not en. |
| 10:24.56 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: with showkey? |
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| 10:25.26 | nash-20 | hi |
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| 10:26.05 | nash-20 | yesterday i upgrade my sid and now i have problems with tput. Do you know what package i need to downgrade? |
| 10:26.15 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: better :xmodmap -pke |
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| 10:28.49 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: setting up your special keys i take it? |
| 10:29.14 | rossMoHaX | what about fallback locale? |
| 10:29.33 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: yes :) |
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| 10:29.50 | MangosDebian | rossMoHaX: you able to set LANG="foo;bar"? |
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| 10:30.25 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: but what xmodmap -pke gaves me does not correspond to what is shown in /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes |
| 10:30.30 | MangosDebian | not sure if that does what you want though ross |
| 10:31.19 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: found it ! |
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| 10:31.25 | _E-bola | hi all, im having trouble compiling a kernel module on a new server |
| 10:31.43 | _E-bola | the old machine has /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686/build linked to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 10:31.52 | _E-bola | but the new one doesnt, so the compile fails, what have created that link? |
| 10:31.58 | _E-bola | kernel.headers are installed on both machines.... |
| 10:32.33 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: don't feel bad, ive got a "Super" key on this old keyboard that doesnt even register as a keypress by the kernel |
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| 10:33.03 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: needless to say, I press it whenever I feel special lol |
| 10:33.18 | Bac0n | i think the header package makes the link |
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| 10:33.37 | Dorward | Is there anything in Debian that will take a URL of an HTML document and generate an image? I'd use khtml2png, but it isn't in the apt repository and I'd prefer to use something that is. |
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| 10:34.18 | metbsd | i really don't know how this init.d thing work |
| 10:35.11 | MangosDebian | metbsd: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf |
| 10:35.23 | MangosDebian | doesnt get much simpler for you than that |
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| 10:36.44 | user1_ | i have init.d/firewall.sh soft link to /etc/network/firewall.sh ,i ran update-rc.d firewall.sh defaults and then reboot, it still won't run firewall.sh |
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| 10:36.55 | awox | sorry guys, I just got a hold of a debian system and I have no www ability, could someoen tell me what utility looks for packages? |
| 10:38.07 | MangosDebian | user1_: the links in place in the rc2.d? |
| 10:38.12 | tarzeau | does anyone use intel c or fortran compiler on etch? 64bit or 32bit? does the installer work for you? |
| 10:38.27 | MangosDebian | tarzeau: god you old timer :) |
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| 10:39.02 | tarzeau | MangosDebian: old timer? |
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| 10:39.17 | MangosDebian | tarzeau: fortran? |
| 10:39.26 | tarzeau | MangosDebian: i don't personally use fortran, but our users |
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| 10:39.36 | MangosDebian | awox: your on irc, whats wrong with google? :p |
| 10:39.46 | user1__ | i have init.d/firewall.sh soft link to /etc/network/firewall.sh ,i ran update-rc.d firewall.sh defaults and then reboot, it still won't run firewall.sh |
| 10:39.57 | MangosDebian | awox: try dpkg -s? |
| 10:40.13 | MangosDebian | awox: or apt-cache search foo |
| 10:40.37 | awox | mkany thanks |
| 10:40.39 | MangosDebian | user1_: we heard you the first time |
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| 10:41.12 | MangosDebian | or was that your response to me? ;) |
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| 10:41.38 | user1__ | oh i kept getting disc |
| 10:41.44 | MangosDebian | i cant see run-parts having issue with symlinks to symlinks |
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| 10:42.41 | user1__ | what you mean |
| 10:42.58 | MangosDebian | user1_: are the links in place in the rc2.d? |
| 10:43.08 | MangosDebian | or _the_ link rather |
| 10:43.09 | alexIdoia | say I have accidentaly ctr+alt+backspace while having an application open, is it possible to reopen its windows ? |
| 10:43.18 | user1__ | only one link in init.d |
| 10:43.31 | MangosDebian | user1_: what about rc2.d? |
| 10:43.34 | user1__ | link -s /etc/network/firewall.sh /etc/init.d/firewall.sh |
| 10:43.44 | user1__ | what do you want me check on rc2.d? |
| 10:43.54 | alexIdoia | MangosDebian: anyidea on how to reopen window ? are they lost ? |
| 10:43.57 | MangosDebian | user1_: cause thats what determines what starts in runlevel 2 |
| 10:44.00 | valdyn | alexIdoia: that entirely depends on the application |
| 10:44.17 | user1__ | ok |
| 10:44.18 | MangosDebian | alexIdoia: you killed the X server? ya everything would have died |
| 10:44.27 | alexIdoia | valdyn: open office ? |
| 10:44.35 | MangosDebian | unless it has some sort of nohup built in i suppose |
| 10:45.00 | valdyn | alexIdoia: oo.org at least has a periodic autosave feature |
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| 10:45.10 | wols_ | MangosDebian: if the server goes down, so do all x clients imho |
| 10:45.20 | _E-bola | I have kernel module that is set to load along with its asociated programs at startu via rc3.d link to init.d |
| 10:45.22 | _E-bola | but it doesnt start |
| 10:45.28 | _E-bola | i can start it fine if i do it manualy though |
| 10:45.33 | _E-bola | How would i debug this problem? |
| 10:45.49 | MangosDebian | wols_: kinda what I figured. Never know when they change stuff though :) |
| 10:45.55 | faber4 | if i only want to be able to use "sendmail" to send mail to a smarthost, whats the simpliest package in debian? |
| 10:46.15 | MangosDebian | _E-bola: are you in run level 3 on startup? |
| 10:46.24 | user1__ | MangosDebian, i have no *firewall* in /etc/rc2.d |
| 10:46.24 | wols_ | _E-bola: you start by putting your module in /etc/modules |
| 10:46.24 | MangosDebian | faber4: exim4 |
| 10:46.33 | _E-bola | MangosDebian: ona default system you end up in run level 3 |
| 10:46.41 | wols_ | !ssmtp |
| 10:46.41 | dpkg | methinks ssmtp is an extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mailhub |
| 10:46.42 | MangosDebian | user1__: theres your problem. apt-get install sysv-rc-conf |
| 10:46.45 | valdyn | !ssmtp |
| 10:46.51 | faber4 | MangosDebian: exim4 is too huge - i need something simple |
| 10:46.54 | _E-bola | wols_: but they are loaded by an init script |
| 10:46.57 | _E-bola | so it shouldnt be necesary? |
| 10:47.06 | user1__ | MangosDebian, what do you want me to run in order to get things in rc2.d? |
| 10:47.13 | MangosDebian | _E-bola: runlevel 3 in debian? since when? |
| 10:47.14 | wols_ | _E-bola: the question is why is it loaded by that script? |
| 10:47.20 | valdyn | faber4: not like exim4 is really huge though, unless your computer is really small |
| 10:47.28 | bolt | argh! thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe keyss on this kkkkkkkkkkkkkkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyboard sticcck randomly |
| 10:47.30 | _E-bola | wols_: thats how its designed |
| 10:47.36 | MangosDebian | faber4: exim4 IS simple. its SMTP, what do you expect. if it was that simple there woiuldnt be any spam |
| 10:47.45 | wols_ | _E-bola: what is? this doesn't look like a debian package |
| 10:47.53 | user1__ | exim4 can be really complicated too |
| 10:47.53 | _E-bola | myu question, is why does it work when i login as root and run it, but now when its run at startup? |
| 10:48.04 | _E-bola | wols: its a kernel module to support linux under ms virtual server |
| 10:48.05 | MangosDebian | user1__: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf, then run it |
| 10:48.48 | MangosDebian | user1__: unless you feel comfortable with update-rc.d. But I think your better off using up/down commands in /etc/apt/interfaces |
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| 10:49.44 | MangosDebian | bolt: and your random sticky keys forced you to press enter and spam us with that? |
| 10:49.51 | user1__ | .... what?? |
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| 10:50.33 | user1__ | up down command is for network interfaces.. i'm configuring firewall here |
| 10:50.36 | _E-bola | wols_: where would messages (echo's) from a rc3 init script be logged to? |
| 10:50.52 | MangosDebian | user1__: and what do you think it is your firewalling? |
| 10:50.56 | MangosDebian | a toaster over? |
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| 10:51.00 | valdyn | _E-bola: not. |
| 10:51.09 | wols | _E-bola: what is your default runlevel? |
| 10:51.10 | MangosDebian | oven* |
| 10:51.21 | user1__ | the eth0 |
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| 10:52.19 | MangosDebian | user1__: and eth0 is a ________. |
| 10:52.49 | user1__ | so i run eth0 first, and then insert iptables rules |
| 10:52.58 | _E-bola | wols: rc3 i think |
| 10:53.04 | user1__ | so i don't see why i need ifup for firewall |
| 10:53.05 | _E-bola | the default on a debian etch install |
| 10:53.19 | _E-bola | valdyn: not what? |
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| 10:53.38 | MangosDebian | user1__: ifup has a hook in the interfaces file to run a command, before/after up/down |
| 10:53.40 | user1__ | i'm in sysv rc conf menu |
| 10:53.41 | leszek | hi |
| 10:53.56 | user1__ | what do i do now |
| 10:54.11 | MangosDebian | user1__: im suggesting that your simply trigger the iptables-restore < part in the up section of eth0, and iptables-save > in the down command of it |
| 10:54.32 | valdyn | _E-bola: its not logged |
| 10:54.38 | _E-bola | wols: if i load it manualy when logged in as root, it logs some status messages in syslog, but at startup there is notyhing from it at all |
| 10:54.45 | user1__ | ok MangosDebian how do i do that? |
| 10:55.00 | _E-bola | valdyn: how would i debug it then? |
| 10:55.01 | user1__ | in networking/interfaces? |
| 10:55.14 | wols | _E-bola: grep initdefault /etc/inittab |
| 10:55.24 | wols | _E-bola: what does this give you? |
| 10:55.25 | _E-bola | id:2:initdefault: |
| 10:55.26 | MangosDebian | user1__: arguably, a "secure" way to so it is a "pre-up" command that first completely closes all eth0 traffic with a policy DROP rule, then after its up, runs the script to enable the firewall |
| 10:55.39 | wols | _E-bola: and now you see why it never ever loads your script or your module |
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| 10:55.44 | _E-bola | hmmm |
| 10:55.45 | MangosDebian | user1__: or else your completely open to the world for a few ms while the firewall loads |
| 10:55.46 | valdyn | !bootlog |
| 10:55.46 | dpkg | /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
| 10:55.56 | _E-bola | isnt it normally level 3 thats ur default level? |
| 10:56.02 | valdyn | 2 |
| 10:56.08 | wols | _E-bola: never was for debian |
| 10:56.11 | _E-bola | ohh cool |
| 10:56.12 | _E-bola | lol |
| 10:56.12 | MangosDebian | user1__: yes /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:56.16 | _E-bola | so i simply eneds to make some links |
| 10:56.23 | _E-bola | guys coudl it be that redhat/suse has 3 as the default level? |
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| 10:56.33 | wols | ericx_2: OT |
| 10:56.38 | _E-bola | this is a converted rpm module thats made for redhat/suse |
| 10:56.41 | wols | _E-bola: OT |
| 10:56.46 | valdyn | _E-bola: they dont use sysv init ? |
| 10:56.49 | _E-bola | so that coudl be why it makes the links in rc3 |
| 10:56.54 | wols | _E-bola: and that is not supported here |
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| 10:57.10 | MangosDebian | _E-bola: the "standard" way for sysv init to use X is runlevel 3, debian uses their own method and uses 2 for everyhing |
| 10:57.25 | _E-bola | ahh explains it |
| 10:57.50 | MangosDebian | thus you would runlevel 2 if you dont want a {g,x,k}dm startup |
| 10:57.58 | user1__ | MangosDebian, where do i add iptables-restore<firewall |
| 10:58.00 | MangosDebian | or switch runlevels |
| 10:58.21 | MangosDebian | user1__: interfaces file, man interfaces then /down |
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| 10:58.52 | zaggynl | Hi, df -h claims I have no diskspace left, yet I deleted quite a bunch of large files already |
| 10:58.53 | MangosDebian | user1__: you know the command syntax to set default policy to drop right? |
| 10:59.05 | user1__ | i can't believe firewall can be so complicated |
| 10:59.10 | user1__ | no |
| 10:59.16 | petemc | you need to use windows |
| 10:59.17 | user1__ | iptables flush? |
| 10:59.18 | valdyn | zaggynl: deleting does not free the spacec necessarily |
| 10:59.25 | zaggynl | hmm |
| 10:59.25 | MangosDebian | user1__: iptables -P INPUT DROP iirc |
| 10:59.29 | zaggynl | so, what should I do next? |
| 10:59.31 | valdyn | zaggynl: paste the output of df -h in a pastesite |
| 10:59.38 | valdyn | !paste |
| 10:59.38 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 10:59.48 | zaggynl | valdyn: I'm not sure how to accomplish that from CLI |
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| 11:00.06 | MangosDebian | user1__: make that your "pre-up" command, then your restore command the "up" command to avoid gaps in the firewall during ifup |
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| 11:00.27 | valdyn | !listkeys paste |
| 11:00.28 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'paste' by key (15 of 43): #debian paster ;; #debian-bots paste ;; CMD: crabpastesmite (.*?) ;; _default paster ;; be cutandpaste barbie ;; console paster ;; cut and paste ;; nopaste ;; paste package vlc ;; pastebat ;; pastebin ;; pastebin one-liner ;; pastebin oneliner ;; paster ;; pastercat. |
| 11:00.38 | valdyn | !console paster |
| 11:00.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, console paster is yes, Virginia, you can use a pastebin website from console. Save any relevant to file (redirect stdout & stderr). Install a console-mode browser (elinks, w3m, lynx), and console mouse management (gpm) and screen ('screen', RTFM for copy/paste). Use irssi-text as a text-mode IRC client, and sort it out. Remember: help us help you. |
| 11:00.46 | MangosDebian | user1__: and make your iptables-save > somefile your "post-down" or "down" command |
| 11:00.48 | valdyn | zaggynl: ^^^ |
| 11:00.51 | zaggynl | ugh |
| 11:01.07 | zaggynl | wait, can't I just go to debian-overflow and paste it there |
| 11:01.11 | valdyn | !pastebin oneliner |
| 11:01.11 | dpkg | methinks pastebin oneliner is pipe your output to curl -i# -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=`whoami` -F paste=Send http://pastebin.ca/pastebin.php | grep '^Loc', or for a HOWTO, ask me about <pastebin howto> |
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| 11:01.43 | zaggynl | valdyn: I'm pasting in #flood |
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| 11:02.15 | user1__ | pre-up /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth1 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off |
| 11:02.49 | MangosDebian | user1__: you can have multiple pre-up's |
| 11:02.52 | user1__ | so i put:iptables-restore < rules. after that line in interfaces? |
| 11:03.16 | user1__ | what's preup anyway |
| 11:03.27 | MangosDebian | user1__: well, if your just gonna use that restore, than use "up" |
| 11:03.38 | user1__ | where |
| 11:03.47 | MangosDebian | user1__: Not very familiar with the meaning of "pre" and "post" in the english language? |
| 11:03.49 | user1__ | where and how do i use that restore |
| 11:04.03 | wols | MangosDebian: handholding is imprtant :) |
| 11:04.15 | user1__ | it's what it does before ifup? |
| 11:04.23 | petemc | that guy is a troll, should be ignored |
| 11:04.31 | MangosDebian | wols: aparently. I dont think this guys gonna give up until I actually add the word "up" to his command though :) |
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| 11:05.02 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libresmgr' returned no results. |
| 11:05.03 | _E-bola | MangosDebian / wols: thanks for the help. adding the init script to rc2.d solved the problem |
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| 11:05.14 | MangosDebian | _E-bola: np |
| 11:05.40 | MangosDebian | wtf did that dpkg message come from? |
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| 11:07.00 | valdyn | MangosDebian: that's an answer to a !find from 20 hours ago? |
| 11:07.06 | user1__ | post-up iptables-restore < rules, ok? |
| 11:07.16 | MangosDebian | valdyn: must be heh i dont see it on my screen |
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| 11:07.28 | valdyn | MangosDebian: and also in the wrong channel |
| 11:07.36 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: ^^^^ |
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| 11:08.24 | MangosDebian | sec |
| 11:08.29 | user1__ | mango |
| 11:08.38 | user1__ | post-up iptables-restore < rules, ok? |
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| 11:09.40 | MangosDebian | user1__: sure |
| 11:10.01 | MangosDebian | i like how he avoids everything but the obvious command though |
| 11:10.18 | user1__ | you mean me? |
| 11:11.52 | MangosDebian | valdyn: lol, 2007-07-15 15:33:20 |
| 11:12.10 | MangosDebian | valdyn: thats from like yesterday |
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| 11:13.46 | MangosDebian | user1__: and make a down command for saving it and you should be good to go |
| 11:14.17 | MangosDebian | user1__: just be sure "rules" is a /full/path/to/rules |
| 11:14.17 | user1__ | MangosDebian, can i just make a file for those rules? because those rules are going to be the same everytime |
| 11:14.31 | user1__ | ok thanks MangosDebian |
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| 11:15.00 | themill | valdyn: that pastebin oneliner doesn't work any more as pastebin requires magic numbers to be sent back and forth (or an "API key") to prevent spammers. There is, however, a paste2pastebin.pl script on their website instead. Can you update that oneliner? |
| 11:15.12 | themill | valdyn: http://pastebin.ca/tools.php |
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| 11:16.33 | valdyn | dpkg: no, pastebin oneliner is at http://pastebin.ca/tools.php. |
| 11:16.33 | dpkg | valdyn: okay |
| 11:17.09 | valdyn | !console paster |
| 11:17.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, console paster is yes, Virginia, you can use a pastebin website from console. Save any relevant to file (redirect stdout & stderr). Install a console-mode browser (elinks, w3m, lynx), and console mouse management (gpm) and screen ('screen', RTFM for copy/paste). Use irssi-text as a text-mode IRC client, and sort it out. Remember: help us help you. |
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| 11:17.52 | themill | valdyn: hey thanks. I now also know how to educate dpkg :) |
| 11:18.02 | MangosDebian | should s/Virginia/$user/ though |
| 11:18.34 | cahoot_ | Virginia sounds nicer |
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| 11:18.47 | MangosDebian | fine :) |
| 11:18.51 | valdyn | dpkg: console paster is also http://pastebin.ca/tools.php |
| 11:18.51 | dpkg | okay, valdyn |
| 11:19.01 | zaggynl | dkpg -l shows installed packages right? |
| 11:19.23 | themill | MangosDebian: it's actually a reference.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_Virginia,_There_is_a_Santa_Claus |
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| 11:19.27 | fasta | Is there free software which implements a propositional logic simplifier? |
| 11:19.36 | MangosDebian | themill: ahh |
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| 11:20.31 | MangosDebian | fasta: a free hooker? |
| 11:20.39 | user1__ | is there log to kernel panic? |
| 11:20.56 | valdyn | user1__: rarely |
| 11:21.00 | user1__ | i have one mail server that's experienced kernel panic, but i can't see the error message thru kvm |
| 11:21.05 | MangosDebian | user1__: that firewall rule panic'd your kernel?! |
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| 11:21.25 | user1__ | MangosDebian, no, the firewall box is ok now. working on another mail server |
| 11:21.56 | MangosDebian | user1__: shift+pgup? |
| 11:22.00 | fasta | MangosDebian: You think about hookers all day? |
| 11:22.07 | valdyn | user1__: you need a serial console to have good chances of actually logging a crash |
| 11:22.26 | MangosDebian | fasta: no, just seems like simplified logical choice for something propositional :) |
| 11:22.44 | semprix | how can i install xlock? |
| 11:22.50 | fasta | MangosDebian: it seems like a very stupid joke to me. |
| 11:23.12 | MangosDebian | fasta: least you knew it was a joke :) |
| 11:23.12 | fasta | !info xlock |
| 11:23.30 | semprix | no info ? |
| 11:23.35 | valdyn | !find bin/xlock |
| 11:23.40 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/xlock' (1): (/usr/bin/xlock) in x11/xlockmore,x11/xlockmore-gl. |
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| 11:23.46 | MangosDebian | semprix: dpkg is probably updating when it lags like that |
| 11:24.02 | MangosDebian | semprix: only tells the channel instead of msg when its !+info/find though |
| 11:24.10 | awox | dpkg: tell me about eye candy |
| 11:24.31 | awox | :S |
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| 11:25.17 | semprix | MangosDebian, fluffy:/home/semprix# apt-cache search xlockmore |
| 11:25.27 | semprix | doesnt return me anything |
| 11:25.45 | MangosDebian | try just "xclock" |
| 11:25.55 | valdyn | not clock |
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| 11:26.04 | user1__ | hehe |
| 11:26.06 | MangosDebian | ahh thats it heh |
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| 11:26.18 | valdyn | semprix: fix your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:26.26 | user1__ | petemc, you have a problem against me? |
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| 11:26.31 | MangosDebian | semprix: we both fell for that one :) |
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| 11:27.02 | user1__ | petemc, i was busy and didn't have time for you, now i have some time. what's up with you? |
| 11:27.08 | Hyber[at]Work | is anyone else than me haveing problems booting from the 4.0r0 ia64 version as well? |
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| 11:27.30 | Skyrail | Is it possible...to get the KDE packages off a distro like Kubuntu and save them somewhere offline and then install them onto Debian because I don't feel like downloading 200megs worth of files to install KDE :/ |
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| 11:27.41 | valdyn | Hyber[at]Work: i would if i was stupid enough to try booting that one on an amd64 / emt64 cpu |
| 11:27.50 | semprix | valdyn, |
| 11:28.24 | semprix | valdyn, http://pastebin.ca/621737 |
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| 11:28.31 | awox | ouch |
| 11:28.43 | MangosDebian | Skyrail: just download kde and be done with it |
| 11:28.44 | semprix | thats what i got |
| 11:28.52 | valdyn | !info xlockmore etch |
| 11:29.03 | harpal | any one know how to get url entered by a person in browser |
| 11:29.17 | Hyber[at]Work | is anyone else than me haveing problems booting from the 4.0r0 ia64 version as well? |
| 11:29.19 | solitude | [12:28:19] <MangosDebian> Skyrail: just download kde and be done with it |
| 11:29.23 | awox | tat's nothing Skyrail, apt-get install gnome made me get 600mb of stuff :D |
| 11:29.29 | solitude | Ive never heard of kde being a solution before! |
| 11:29.29 | MangosDebian | harpal: you run screen? |
| 11:29.39 | valdyn | semprix: that package really isnt in etch |
| 11:29.39 | solitude | awox :X ouch, thats huge |
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| 11:29.46 | valdyn | semprix: your sources.list is ok |
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| 11:29.49 | cydork | semprix: xlockmore is no longer present, use xscreensaver or something. |
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| 11:29.52 | semprix | :( |
| 11:29.59 | harpal | MangosDebian: screen? |
| 11:30.04 | Skyrail | My problem is that I've got a download cap of 2gigs as it is and I want to download the base Etch installation |
| 11:30.13 | semprix | cydork, yeah i have xscreensaver but i want to lock this box on the fly |
| 11:30.23 | cydork | semprix: on the fly? |
| 11:30.24 | semprix | its in my office. |
| 11:30.32 | valdyn | !find bin/xlock etch |
| 11:30.37 | MangosDebian | harpal: sorry, thought you meant from irssi to a webbrowser or something |
| 11:30.39 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/xlock' returned no results. |
| 11:30.42 | semprix | everytime i left the table i want to lock it on the spot |
| 11:30.42 | cydork | semprix: xautolock |
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| 11:31.03 | MangosDebian | harpal: you meant from say a php page or something? |
| 11:31.11 | semprix | k thanks for the help guys :) appreciate it |
| 11:31.16 | cydork | semprix: you can user xautolock + xscreensaver to get that :) |
| 11:31.39 | harpal | MangosDebian: I have a machine as a gate way |
| 11:31.57 | MangosDebian | harpal: you mean packet sniff? |
| 11:31.58 | harpal | I want every url entered by a client |
| 11:32.13 | MangosDebian | harpal: proxy best probably |
| 11:32.20 | harpal | I have used squid |
| 11:32.33 | semprix | cydork, how? |
| 11:33.06 | harpal | it gives me urls but with it it also gives me other urls which is not accessed, which are openby that site |
| 11:33.13 | cydork | semprix: xautolock can run xscreensaver if there is no activity. |
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| 11:33.30 | semprix | wait wait |
| 11:33.40 | user1__ | anyone suggeest a smtp proxy ? |
| 11:33.43 | MangosDebian | harpal: its still considered "acessed" |
| 11:33.51 | semprix | !info xlockmore-gl |
| 11:33.55 | dpkg | xlockmore-gl: (Lock X11 display until password is entered -- GL version), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:5.22-1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 2688 kB |
| 11:34.00 | MangosDebian | harpal: or you mean urls without referers? |
| 11:34.13 | semprix | !info xlockmore-gl etch |
| 11:34.29 | MangosDebian | wait, thats for the reciever to decide, nm |
| 11:34.50 | semprix | but when i try to install it |
| 11:34.54 | semprix | E: Package xlockmore-gl has no installation candidate |
| 11:34.57 | harpal | MangosDebian: I have opened mail.yahoo.com then it gives me only mail.yahoo.com. |
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| 11:35.11 | cydork | semprix: coz its not there in etch. |
| 11:35.18 | semprix | again |
| 11:35.20 | semprix | gggrrr |
| 11:35.23 | semprix | :( |
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| 11:35.36 | user1__ | debian's problem |
| 11:35.44 | harpal | in squid it gives me mail.yahoo.com and other sites like http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/ from where it has taken images and html files |
| 11:36.02 | MangosDebian | harpal: as it should |
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| 11:36.24 | harpal | so I want another software or programs which tells me only mail.yahoo.com |
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| 11:37.40 | MangosDebian | harpal: theres no way to know that info unless it applies logic to the logs to remove all urls from the log which have links in the html from what it sounds like you want |
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| 11:38.04 | the_lalelu | user1__: what is debian's problem? |
| 11:38.05 | arisv | may I ask sth, in order to configure our 5:1 soundcard, we have to do any special settings? :-) |
| 11:38.08 | Hoxzer | Hello, I'm having problem with nvidia module not being able to initialize when xserver is started. Problems started to occur when I changed from nvidia.com modules to the ones at debian repos. |
| 11:38.28 | Hoxzer | Of course I did uninstall the nvidia.com module/driver |
| 11:38.43 | user1__ | new software vs stability |
| 11:38.48 | MangosDebian | harpal: ever tried stripping out stuff like .jpg and .css etc? |
| 11:38.51 | harpal | ya I have applied logic to logs, that it can take only txt/html files in to consideration |
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| 11:39.24 | harpal | but it takes some html pages from other url so it comes in |
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| 11:39.43 | semprix | this sounds crazy but is it possible to include sarge on the source.lst? |
| 11:39.44 | harpal | so I cant get exact url |
| 11:39.53 | semprix | !info source.lst |
| 11:40.08 | xand | it's called sources.list and why would you want to? |
| 11:40.22 | MangosDebian | harpal: the referer should be set on the secondary urls i believe. strip them out |
| 11:40.54 | semprix | xand, to be able to install stuffs that is not on etch |
| 11:40.56 | semprix | heh |
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| 11:41.40 | the_lalelu | user1__: this is not a problem, this a decision. new software and rock solid is a caveat. |
| 11:41.41 | harpal | ? |
| 11:41.44 | cope[dev] | where do I put the .desktop file to get a new entry in the programming menu? |
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| 11:43.17 | MangosDebian | harpal: actually not sure if referer is set for files local to that site |
| 11:43.44 | MangosDebian | anyone know if images loaded from web page generate a referer of the local site? or are they empty? |
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| 11:48.53 | cope[dev] | if your website is loading images from a website, your website is shown in the logs |
| 11:49.18 | semprix | !info vmware |
| 11:49.18 | cope[dev] | thats how I catch image theives :) |
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| 11:49.23 | MangosDebian | so the referer is always set to the originating set then yes? |
| 11:49.45 | MangosDebian | kinda what i thought |
| 11:50.08 | MangosDebian | harpal: ya, log referers if you can and strip that from your logs if you want more accuracy |
| 11:51.01 | harpal | MangosDebian: ya I have duduced that images portion but I have problem in html part |
| 11:51.26 | harpal | because it also gets some html pages from another sites. |
| 11:51.39 | MangosDebian | harpal: its not just images. any url they fetch should have a referer set unless they manually typed in a url |
| 11:51.58 | MangosDebian | well hold on. i see what you mean |
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| 11:52.24 | cope[dev] | you can block a refer though |
| 11:52.32 | MangosDebian | i dont know about something thats say link'd into the page. but im pretty sure that should have refer as well |
| 11:52.33 | cope[dev] | its not difficult to rewrite the header |
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| 11:52.59 | semprix | how do i install rpm packages? |
| 11:53.11 | MangosDebian | harpal: what cope said. its really pretty simple to work around your logs if they know what your logging and how |
| 11:53.14 | cope[dev] | yea, any time an image is taken from one website by another, the referrer is set, UNLESS they spoof the referrer |
| 11:53.39 | harpal | ok letme check |
| 11:53.41 | MangosDebian | cope[dev]: its not just images though right, its every single url regardless? |
| 11:53.57 | cope[dev] | MangosDebian, thats right, every hit is recorded |
| 11:54.08 | cope[dev] | hit = request sorry |
| 11:54.13 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 11:54.16 | MangosDebian | thats what i thought. its just a extra header in the request |
| 11:54.34 | harpal | semprix:# apt-get install rpm |
| 11:54.34 | harpal | # rpmbuild --rebuild l2tpd-0.69-10jdl.src.rpm |
| 11:54.34 | harpal | # alien /usr/src/RPMS/i386/l2tpd-0.69-10jdl.rpm |
| 11:54.34 | harpal | # dpkg -i l2tpd-0.69-10jdl.deb |
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| 11:54.36 | cope[dev] | yea, again its easy to spoof, or totally remove |
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| 11:54.49 | semprix | thanks |
| 11:54.55 | Mazingaro | please I could not remove bootsplash from my system: when I upgrade the kernel, dpkg add lines in menu.lst for the bootsplash, please help |
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| 11:55.42 | MangosDebian | Mazingaro: edit your menu.lst to remove the line that added them |
| 11:55.57 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: I've to do this every time... |
| 11:56.11 | MangosDebian | Mazingaro: cause your not editing the right part |
| 11:56.36 | MangosDebian | ## kopt= iirc |
| 11:56.56 | haluk | hi folks, when i updated my debian lenny that includes kernel 2.6.21-2-686, X was broken down and now i cant install nvidia driver again. What can i do? |
| 11:58.26 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: there's no such config in menu.lst |
| 11:58.39 | haluk | m-a auto-install nvidia -> it returns error ( nvidia-kernel-source source failed. Maybe you need to add something to sources.list maybe the contrib and non-free archieves.) but they are already added. |
| 12:00.52 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: ok, I think I found the prob: it is update-grub |
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| 12:04.18 | Hoxzer | where does xorg try to search for nvidia module ? |
| 12:04.47 | MangosDebian | Mazingaro: funny, ive got kopt= |
| 12:05.02 | haluk | Hoxzer: i dont understand |
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| 12:05.26 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: yes... kopt=vga=791 splash..... |
| 12:05.38 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: I put kopt=quiet |
| 12:05.40 | Hoxzer | haluk: xorg can't load nvidia module because it thinks it doesn't exist eventhough it does |
| 12:05.41 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: :) |
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| 12:05.49 | MangosDebian | thats the one |
| 12:05.59 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: then did update-grub |
| 12:06.07 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: and the problem' gone |
| 12:06.12 | Hoxzer | "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" |
| 12:06.17 | MangosDebian | Mazingaro: you miss your root=? |
| 12:06.29 | haluk | Hoxzer: but everyting was ok while i was using kernel 2.6.18-2-686, |
| 12:06.37 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: is in another option |
| 12:06.47 | Hoxzer | haluk: I'm using 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 12:07.43 | Mazingaro | MangosDebian: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-2-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet |
| 12:07.57 | haluk | Hoxzer: i wonder that it is common problem or mine. |
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| 12:09.22 | Hoxzer | Hmm... I would really prefer debian nvidia kernel packages over nvidia install script as they automically get updated when my kernel does |
| 12:09.25 | valdyn | Hoxzer: that error does not talk about your nvidia.ko kernel module |
| 12:10.24 | Hoxzer | valdyn: humm ? |
| 12:10.29 | MangosDebian | Hoxzer: now if only nvidia and ati weren't completly anal over their drivers and open source them |
| 12:10.39 | StarkD | Does anyone knows how to view PDF files with white text on black background? Black on white is just killing my eyes. |
| 12:10.49 | valdyn | Hoxzer: "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" does NOWHERE talk about a kernel module |
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| 12:12.29 | Hoxzer | valdyn: well, what is it about then |
| 12:12.30 | Hoxzer | ? |
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| 12:12.51 | haluk | i type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg1.run it returns this error "unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module" |
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| 12:13.04 | mateo | Hi |
| 12:13.10 | valdyn | Hoxzer: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so |
| 12:13.11 | mateo | I want to install the latest realease of debian |
| 12:13.14 | mateo | where can I get it ? |
| 12:13.17 | valdyn | !ig |
| 12:13.17 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r0 (Stable as of April 8, 2007) .. or see http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1 ... 3.1r5). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 12:13.33 | AKX | How do I enable over 2g of memory in my Debian? |
| 12:13.35 | mateo | what's the name of the inestable ? |
| 12:13.40 | AKX | Rather, which linux-image do I want? |
| 12:13.51 | valdyn | haluk: nvidia drivers dont work on 2.6.21 kernel(s) |
| 12:14.16 | mateo | I need to install testing right ?? |
| 12:15.28 | haluk | valdyn: thanx |
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| 12:16.05 | valdyn | haluk: or, more precisely, dont work on 2.6.21 kernels that have CONFIG_PARAVIRT |
| 12:16.43 | haluk | valdyn: CONFIG_PARAVIRT ? |
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| 12:17.50 | MatBoy | hi guys |
| 12:18.05 | peter_ | hello |
| 12:18.11 | MatBoy | what is a good webbased emule version for debian ? Amule doesn seem to have a webfrontend |
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| 12:19.54 | valdyn | MatBoy: it does |
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| 12:20.16 | MatBoy | valdyn, I thought that too... I think I have to digg further than |
| 12:20.27 | valdyn | or amule-daemon - non-graphic version of aMule, a client for the eD2k and Kad networks |
| 12:20.29 | MatBoy | can't find it yet or is it default ? |
| 12:20.47 | MatBoy | I just a did a install amule to get the defaults |
| 12:21.10 | peter_ | Can I use ntfs-3g under Etch? |
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| 12:22.44 | solitude | peter_, try and see |
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| 12:23.28 | peter_ | solitude, in my repo there isnt ntfs-3g |
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| 12:25.53 | MatBoy | valdyn, do you have some oher suggestions ? I thought it was there too but the config is quite... vague |
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| 12:27.00 | valdyn | MatBoy: vauge? its a GUI |
| 12:27.13 | valdyn | s/vauge/vague/ |
| 12:27.55 | takehiko | hello #debian |
| 12:28.00 | valdyn | MatBoy: you probably want to use amule-daemon though |
| 12:28.36 | takehiko | What do I need - to enable "find as you type" in nautilus? |
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| 12:29.46 | MatBoy | valdyn, mhh on what port does the webserver run of it normally ? |
| 12:30.34 | semprix | MatBoy, 80 |
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| 12:31.35 | MatBoy | semprix, ok, thanks... shou it run by default on debian ? |
| 12:31.35 | valdyn | MatBoy: i dont use amule ( anymore ), so i dont remember those details. 'netstat -plunt' should tell you though |
| 12:31.50 | valdyn | and no its not 80 |
| 12:32.07 | valdyn | certainly not a privileged port |
| 12:32.14 | semprix | webserver? |
| 12:32.20 | semprix | http |
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| 12:32.55 | semprix | webserver A.K.A http runs on port 8- |
| 12:33.24 | MatBoy | yes that is normally true indeed |
| 12:33.35 | valdyn | semprix: we're talking about filesharing software that is certainly NOT going to be run as root |
| 12:33.44 | semprix | ohh |
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| 12:33.58 | semprix | the guy was asking mhh on what port does the webserver run of it normally ? |
| 12:34.07 | valdyn | semprix: its a webserver too |
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| 12:34.24 | semprix | sorry im not paying attention |
| 12:34.31 | semprix | anyways |
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| 12:36.49 | MatBoy | I can't find the config file, only the deamonfile :S |
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| 12:36.55 | MatBoy | it should run on port 4711 |
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| 12:38.59 | Lauer | hello, I am using the timeout-program, but for some reason its always return 0, what can the problem be? are there an other solution than using the timeout command? |
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| 12:51.12 | CalJohn | Doing an apt-get upgrade this morning, I got this error; http://dpaste.com/14572/. Looks like the needed version of libc6-i386 is out of date compared to the other libc6's in lenny. |
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| 12:52.14 | Anarka | you need to wait a couple of sdays to get lib32z1 update |
| 12:52.27 | semprix | i didnt know gcc is not pre-installed on debian |
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| 12:52.34 | semprix | lol |
| 12:53.12 | CalJohn | Anarka: ok. does this happen a lot on lenny? Is there any way for me install the rest of my packages? |
| 12:53.24 | Anarka | yes |
| 12:53.36 | Anarka | you can hold libc6 |
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| 12:54.11 | CalJohn | Anarka: ok, how would I do that? apt-pinning? |
| 12:55.13 | Anarka | apitude install libc6=2.5-9 |
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| 12:57.13 | semprix | guys how do i install the gcc compiler on debian? |
| 12:57.15 | gamayun | hi guys. need some help. I cant start into Gui. i have to type startx every time. i checked everything already. Dont know what to think. |
| 12:57.23 | cope[dev] | semprix, sudo apt-get install build-essentials |
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| 12:57.36 | xand | gamayun: have you installed {g,k,x}dm? |
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| 12:57.42 | cope[dev] | I believe its so on ubuntu, I think its the same on debian |
| 12:57.42 | gamayun | gdm |
| 12:57.47 | semprix | thanks |
| 12:57.49 | Narada | hi all when i do apt-get install ssh then it asks me for a cd; how can i just get it to use the net |
| 12:58.08 | Anarka | add some mirrors |
| 12:58.10 | gamayun | after startx it starts without broblem |
| 12:58.13 | abrotman | Narada: edit /etc/apt/sources.list .. comment out the CD source .. aptitude update && aptitide install ssh |
| 12:58.16 | abrotman | aptitude |
| 12:58.26 | Narada | hmm you use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 12:58.33 | CalJohn | Anarka: that doesn't seem to actually help. It still fails, but aptitude just fails louder. |
| 12:58.35 | semprix | cope[dev], |
| 12:58.42 | semprix | its apt-get install build-essentials |
| 12:58.49 | gamayun | i checked all. all looks good. |
| 12:58.51 | Narada | abrotman: okay thanks |
| 12:59.02 | cope[dev] | np semprix |
| 12:59.09 | Anarka | CalJohn he didnt downgrade libc6 ? |
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| 12:59.22 | CalJohn | Anarka: nope, still failed. ill pastebin it |
| 12:59.22 | semprix | cope[dev], i have an error running that command apt-get install build-essentials |
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| 12:59.35 | cope[dev] | really? |
| 12:59.37 | cope[dev] | what error? |
| 12:59.45 | semprix | apt-get install build-essentials |
| 12:59.50 | cope[dev] | ahh, build-essential |
| 12:59.53 | semprix | apt-get install build-essentials |
| 13:00.10 | gamayun | default runlevel 2, /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm -> /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 13:00.16 | semprix | E: Invalid operation build-essentials |
| 13:00.18 | cope[dev] | semprix, in the future, try sudo apt-get install build-es<TAB><TAB> and it'll bring up a list of apps in the repository you can download |
| 13:00.22 | CalJohn | Anarka: http://dpaste.com/14573/ |
| 13:00.33 | cope[dev] | semprix, are you root? |
| 13:00.34 | hark | semprix: get rid of the s at the end |
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| 13:00.46 | semprix | yes i am root |
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| 13:00.52 | Anarka | ohhh of course :) |
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| 13:00.58 | gamayun | have no idea. need some help |
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| 13:01.08 | Anarka | aptitude search ~ilibc6 |
| 13:01.10 | suwro | hello |
| 13:01.13 | semprix | hark cope[dev] thank you |
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| 13:01.20 | semprix | thats without s on the end |
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| 13:01.22 | hark | gamayun: should be S99 |
| 13:01.25 | cope[dev] | :) |
| 13:01.56 | vaq | How do i retrieve more archs with apt-mirror then the arch the host is running? |
| 13:02.01 | gamayun | hark: :) and that's all? |
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| 13:02.23 | Narada | any noticeable difference between aptitude and apt? |
| 13:02.28 | CalJohn | Anarka: http://dpaste.com/14574/ |
| 13:02.32 | gamayun | so just kill the link and ln -s new one? |
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| 13:03.00 | Anarka | CalJohn you aptitude output doesnt provide that much usefull info ;) |
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| 13:03.33 | Roey | Hi, is anyone with amd64 debian/sid getting this on apt-get dist-upgrade: "E: Internal Err or, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6" ? |
| 13:03.36 | Anarka | echo "Aptitude::CmdLine::Package-Display-Format "%c%a%M %p# %15v %15V - %d#";" >> /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 13:03.38 | hark | gamayun: wait, it's correct |
| 13:03.45 | Anarka | CalJohn do that and try the search again |
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| 13:04.43 | gamayun | hark: can i do it through mv ? or kill the link and make a new one? |
| 13:05.00 | Anarka | oops that wont work CalJohn |
| 13:05.20 | CalJohn | Anarka: E: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf:1: Extra junk after value |
| 13:05.24 | CalJohn | Anarka: then the same thing |
| 13:05.24 | suwro | i am having problems with mvicrosoft vpn client - on my router - firewall is only for port forward 80 to 8080 and tcp syn limit. -- when client try to connect - err is: 721 the remote computer did not respind... if we try trough dialup it is working - what am i doing wrong - do i need ppptp daemon installed on router ? |
| 13:05.38 | Anarka | CalJohn sorry you need to delete what you added |
| 13:05.55 | CalJohn | Anarka: no problem |
| 13:05.55 | hark | gamayun: does it work with /etc/init.d/gdm start ? |
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| 13:05.59 | Anarka | gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf and delete that line |
| 13:06.10 | pingwin | hi i'm having some major issues with debian and apache2 ssl. i have loaded the certs on another server and they work fine. but the connection fails on the ssl handshake |
| 13:06.16 | Anarka | then add Aptitude::CmdLine::Package-Display-Format "%c%a%M %p# %15v %15V - %d#"; |
| 13:06.21 | CalJohn | Anarka: i didn't have an apt.conf before, so I just wiped it |
| 13:06.28 | gamayun | hark: I didn' try |
| 13:06.32 | Anarka | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.35 | Anarka | then that |
| 13:06.39 | Anarka | that works :) |
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| 13:06.45 | gamayun | i will reboot now and try then |
| 13:06.54 | abrotman | gedit ? |
| 13:07.00 | gamayun | hark: thank so much |
| 13:07.16 | CalJohn | Anarka: http://dpaste.com/14575/ |
| 13:07.24 | CalJohn | Anarka: vim :) |
| 13:07.48 | abrotman | suwro: this is #debian |
| 13:07.51 | Anarka | i usually now say gedit cause who doesnt know how to use vim jknows how to use gedit :p |
| 13:08.04 | CalJohn | Anarka: that's probably a good idea |
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| 13:08.16 | suwro | abrotman: so? router has debian on it... |
| 13:08.21 | Anarka | CalJohn on my system when i had that problem i just forced installing libc6-i386 |
| 13:08.39 | hark | gamayun: S30 is correct actually (it was S99 before, then got changed to S21 and now is set to S30) |
| 13:08.41 | CalJohn | Anarka: aget -f libc6-i386? |
| 13:08.48 | abrotman | suwro: you neglected to include that fact :) |
| 13:08.58 | hark | packages get held back for a reason |
| 13:08.59 | suwro | abrotman: sorry :) |
| 13:09.25 | Anarka | dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2. and use tab :p |
| 13:09.30 | CalJohn | hark: well, atm my updates are broken, so obviously something is wrong |
| 13:09.35 | Anarka | yeah dpkg ;) |
| 13:09.49 | hark | you shouldn't have used dist-upgrade as well |
| 13:09.57 | Anarka | its the lib32z problem |
| 13:10.02 | Anarka | had the same in sid |
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| 13:10.13 | CalJohn | hark: well, upgrade gives the exact same error |
| 13:10.31 | hark | !dbugs 433337 |
| 13:10.34 | dpkg | #433337:N[libc6-i386] libc6-i386 conflicts with lib32z1; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:12:11 UTC |
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| 13:11.05 | gamayun | hark: ok i'm back |
| 13:11.15 | hark | did that work? |
| 13:11.22 | gamayun | no it says, |
| 13:11.40 | gamayun | GNOME is not default manager |
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| 13:11.43 | CalJohn | hark, Anarka: that worked for me. thankyou :) |
| 13:11.58 | Anarka | kinda the hard way but... |
| 13:12.13 | gamayun | but it starts with startx |
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| 13:12.26 | hark | force-overwrite itself would have worked |
| 13:12.36 | hark | gamayun: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 13:12.48 | bonez39 | ?? how to resolve a NO_Pubkey error...when running apt-get update? I get that error for ftp.us.postgresql.org and a search for the key named ...turns up NOTHING |
| 13:13.20 | gamayun | hark: i did it before changed the link |
| 13:13.53 | gamayun | r# dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 13:13.53 | gamayun | Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdm. |
| 13:14.13 | gamayun | hark: so now reboot? |
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| 13:14.44 | hark | gamayun: what's the dm in /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 13:14.56 | gamayun | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.56 | gamayun | /usr/sbin/gdm |
| 13:14.59 | davut | hi I wanna install debian on sun blade 150 |
| 13:15.07 | davut | is there any iso for debian on sparc |
| 13:15.11 | Narada | hi; when i installed debian i asked it to put "database server" on there; but mysql is not on there; what db does it put on there then |
| 13:15.38 | gamayun | i deleted this file yesterday, so wrote it today |
| 13:15.58 | gamayun | hark: hope it's correct |
| 13:16.02 | hark | Narada: tasksel --task-packages database-server |
| 13:16.17 | hark | Narada: (postgresql) |
| 13:16.27 | Narada | omg i don't need postgres :( |
| 13:17.40 | Narada | it should really tell you what it means by "database server" |
| 13:17.52 | Narada | if i'd known it would be postgres i would definitely not have chosen it |
| 13:18.28 | hark | !d-i davut |
| 13:18.28 | dpkg | davut, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 13:19.12 | Narada | hmm postgres strangely doesn't seem to exist either; although tasksel --task-packages database-server does give postgresql-8.1 |
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| 13:19.18 | Narada | now i'm confused |
| 13:19.21 | hark | gamayun: give it a try (though there was no need to mv the symlink) |
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| 13:19.40 | hark | Narada: dpkg -l |grep postgres |
| 13:19.59 | gamayun | i mv it yesterday |
| 13:20.42 | Narada | hark: nope nothing |
| 13:21.01 | Narada | so in that case the "database server" option in the installer seems to have had no effect |
| 13:21.17 | gamayun | hark: i deleted it and ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm |
| 13:21.25 | gamayun | just now |
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| 13:22.19 | gamayun | hark: so link is correct now and /etc/X11/default-display-manager correct too? |
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| 13:22.34 | abrotman | Narada: paste your sources somewhere so that we can see them |
| 13:22.53 | no3sc | I have some problems with installing fglrx-kernel-src. Is there anyone available to help atm? |
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| 13:24.00 | Narada | k |
| 13:24.06 | gamayun | hark: i will reboot |
| 13:24.37 | Narada | abrotman: http://rafb.net/p/JJrhVC95.html |
| 13:24.41 | hark | gamayun: ok, but S30gdm was the default one fyi |
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| 13:25.01 | hark | Narada: yeah, so it didn't install |
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| 13:25.23 | abrotman | Narada: aptitude update && aptitude install postgresql-8.1 |
| 13:25.34 | bonez39 | anyone know how to resolve a NO_Pubkey error...when running apt-get update? I get that error for ftp.us.postgresql.org and a search for the key named ...turns up NOTHING |
| 13:25.51 | hark | abrotman: he wants mysql :) |
| 13:25.55 | abrotman | why!?!?! |
| 13:26.04 | abrotman | evil licensing! |
| 13:26.04 | Gathond | abrotman: :) |
| 13:26.14 | abrotman | bonez39: what's the key ? |
| 13:26.53 | Gathond | abrotman: self loathing of some kind? masochism? |
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| 13:27.16 | hark | bonez39: try #postgresql or something? |
| 13:27.17 | Narada | yeah my company uses mysql and postgresql but for this project i need mysql |
| 13:27.21 | abrotman | let's take this to an 8 year-old level ... Anything mysql can do, postgresql can do better :) |
| 13:27.47 | Narada | well if i use postgres i won't be able to do my job; how's that? :) |
| 13:27.59 | abrotman | new job! |
| 13:28.03 | Narada | lol |
| 13:28.04 | gamayun | hark: doesn't work. says gnome is not the default manager. :)) |
| 13:28.09 | hark | he was just worried that tasksel installed postgresql for him, instead of mysql which he wanted |
| 13:28.16 | abrotman | /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 13:28.27 | Narada | yeah luckily it didn't; but then what did it install if not postgres; who knows |
| 13:28.49 | gamayun | abrotman: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 13:28.49 | gamayun | /usr/sbin/gdm |
| 13:29.01 | abrotman | etch ? |
| 13:29.06 | abrotman | !find bin/gdm etch |
| 13:29.08 | gamayun | lenny |
| 13:29.11 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gdm' (2): (/usr/bin/gdmap) in graphics/gdmap ;; (/usr/sbin/{gdm|gdmsetup}, /usr/bin/{gdm-dmx-reconnect-proxy|gdmXnest|gdmXnestchooser|...}) in gnome/gdm. |
| 13:29.12 | abrotman | !find bin/gdm lenny |
| 13:29.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gdm' (2): (/usr/bin/gdmap) in graphics/gdmap ;; (/usr/sbin/{gdm|gdmsetup}, /usr/bin/{gdm-dmx-reconnect-proxy|gdmXnest|gdmXnestchooser|...}) in gnome/gdm. |
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| 13:29.22 | abrotman | bah .. it really is in sbin .. oh well |
| 13:29.24 | abrotman | anyways .. |
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| 13:29.29 | abrotman | gamayun: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 13:30.17 | gamayun | r# /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 13:30.17 | gamayun | Not starting GNOME Display Manager; it is not the default display manager. |
| 13:30.39 | gamayun | fck knows |
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| 13:31.07 | xand | dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 13:31.14 | xand | it should ask if you want it to be the default i think |
| 13:31.14 | gamayun | did it |
| 13:31.28 | gamayun | did'n ask |
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| 13:31.51 | hark | gamayun: change it to /usr/bin/gdm instead |
| 13:32.01 | gamayun | r# dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 13:32.02 | gamayun | Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdm. |
| 13:32.02 | Narada | is there like an "admin" or superuser group in debian by default? |
| 13:32.20 | gamayun | i dont have it there |
| 13:32.21 | bonez39 | abrotman: Here's the key: AE9545D6FC0564BE |
| 13:32.25 | deegan | Hi i have a question, i installed php5 with apt-get install php5 but there doesnt seem to be any php binary on the system and as such any php file i create even the basic one with php_info() wont run. What package do i need? |
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| 13:32.58 | gamayun | r# ls /usr/bin/gdm |
| 13:32.58 | gamayun | ls: /usr/bin/gdm: No such file or directory |
| 13:33.08 | abrotman | !apt-key FC0564BE |
| 13:33.08 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys FC0564BE ; gpg --export FC0564BE | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 13:33.10 | abrotman | bonez39: ^^ |
| 13:33.53 | hark | gamayun: i know, just change it and /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 13:34.00 | bonez39 | abrotman: thanks |
| 13:34.12 | gamayun | ok |
| 13:34.13 | abrotman | bonez39: if that fails .. ask #postgresql |
| 13:34.20 | bonez39 | abrotman: my question is ..... ok... |
| 13:34.27 | abrotman | bonez39: your quedstion is ? |
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| 13:34.47 | bonez39 | gpgkeys: key FC0564BE not found on keyserver |
| 13:35.10 | bonez39 | I get that, whether with key FC0564BE or with AE9545D6FC0564BE |
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| 13:35.43 | stew | bonez39: you'll have to ask the repository maintainer for a copy of his public key |
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| 13:36.15 | bonez39 | stew: at the risk of sounding really stupid..hwo do I locate the repository maintainer.. |
| 13:36.19 | stew | bonez39: and/or ask him to put it on a public keyserver |
| 13:36.22 | stew | bonez39: no idea |
| 13:36.22 | bonez39 | how |
| 13:36.28 | bonez39 | thanks... |
| 13:36.46 | abrotman | #gnupg might know more |
| 13:36.53 | spyhd3r | dpkg apt-get moo ? |
| 13:36.53 | dpkg | ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
| 13:36.55 | abrotman | but you still need the repository guy to do it |
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| 13:39.12 | gamayun | hark: how did you know this? |
| 13:39.19 | gamayun | it works |
| 13:39.28 | hark | gamayun: yeah i had a look at /etc/init.d/gdm |
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| 13:39.45 | abrotman | hark: it's using the full path? |
| 13:39.45 | gamayun | from now on you r my good!!! |
| 13:40.03 | gamayun | thanks a lot |
| 13:40.14 | hark | it compares it with /usr/bin/gdm |
| 13:40.44 | gamayun | hark: i killed the hole morning and afternoon |
| 13:41.20 | gamayun | it just extra \s |
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| 13:42.06 | gamayun | i thought about /bin instead of /sbin but the was nothing there |
| 13:42.33 | gamayun | how this thing works? who know? |
| 13:42.36 | user1__ | hi all |
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| 13:42.46 | user1__ | where is bind9 conf file? /etc/bind9 is not there |
| 13:42.49 | gamayun | thanks all! |
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| 13:42.54 | hark | right, that should have been the case |
| 13:42.55 | abrotman | user1__: it's in /etc/bind9/ |
| 13:43.08 | user1__ | i don't have bind9 |
| 13:43.13 | stew | its in /etc/bind |
| 13:43.13 | abrotman | did you install it ? |
| 13:43.14 | Enverex | Aptitude is refusing to install something because it says it's trying to install something that is in another package, how do I override that? |
| 13:43.20 | abrotman | doh! |
| 13:43.21 | hark | user1__: did you delete it or reinstall? |
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| 13:44.02 | hark | Enverex: libc6 related? |
| 13:44.18 | Enverex | hark: Yes |
| 13:44.24 | Enverex | libz1 and such |
| 13:44.35 | hark | !dbugs 433337 |
| 13:44.38 | dpkg | #433337:N[libc6-i386] libc6-i386 conflicts with lib32z1; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:12:11 UTC |
| 13:44.54 | Enverex | But anyway, can anyone answer the question regardless? |
| 13:45.13 | abrotman | bugs.debian.org/433337 |
| 13:45.56 | hark | Enverex: yeah there is a way, but i guess there ought to be a fix soon |
| 13:46.10 | Enverex | ... so.. what's the way? |
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| 13:46.27 | Enverex | I thought it was -force=all but that doesn't seem to work |
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| 13:47.42 | Enverex | I KNOW you all must use it... |
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| 13:47.58 | abrotman | we must eh ? |
| 13:48.17 | Enverex | At some point or another I think the chances of having used it are high... |
| 13:48.30 | abrotman | tried a man page ? |
| 13:48.51 | hark | /msg dpkg overwrite (but at your own risk) |
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| 13:49.54 | Enverex | Not valid for aptitude or apt-get... isn't there a way to get them to do it? |
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| 13:50.14 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 13:50.14 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
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| 13:50.20 | valdyn | Enverex: ^^ |
| 13:50.49 | Enverex | doh |
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| 13:51.07 | hark | Enverex: it says how in the factoid itself... |
| 13:51.20 | beatnik | ello, can you help me about sharing internet; i have a laptop which is conneting with wireless and i have a desktop. |
| 13:51.39 | zicho | how can i look how big a folder is from the terminal? |
| 13:51.45 | petemc | du -hs . |
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| 13:53.28 | Absolute0 | is it possible to pass the password of root as an argument to su? |
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| 13:53.48 | Absolute0 | the man page doesnt specify that |
| 13:53.48 | xand | no, that would be insecure |
| 13:53.57 | valdyn | Absolute0: anything is possible, but that idea is stupid |
| 13:54.06 | Absolute0 | well i wanna change to root in a bash script |
| 13:54.16 | valdyn | Absolute0: thats fucked up |
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| 13:54.21 | Absolute0 | lol |
| 13:54.22 | Absolute0 | ok |
| 13:54.23 | Absolute0 | fine |
| 13:54.32 | zicho | petemc: thx |
| 13:54.47 | valdyn | Absolute0: im sure there's a decent solution for what you really want to accomplish |
| 13:54.48 | Absolute0 | i'll just run the script as root |
| 13:54.50 | beatnik | !networking |
| 13:54.50 | dpkg | somebody said networking was at http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/ and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html and "man interfaces" |
| 13:54.58 | pizza_biz | or man sudo. |
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| 13:55.28 | Absolute0 | or add poweroff to my user's permissions :-P |
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| 13:58.30 | jamos | Hi, Can anyone please tell me how to get identified so that I can join #asterisk |
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| 13:59.44 | xand | jamos: /msg nickserv help |
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| 13:59.51 | xand | jamos: register your nick then identify |
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| 14:00.00 | jamos | thanks a bunch |
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| 14:19.16 | haluk | hi, when i click mp3 files totem movie player gives this error " there is no plugin to handle this movie". There isn't any problem before updating debian. What's this problem? |
| 14:19.21 | wols | !tell no3sc about ask |
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| 14:19.36 | wols | haluk: missing codec I'd say |
| 14:19.53 | haluk | wols: how can i solve |
| 14:20.04 | wols | install the proper codec |
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| 14:20.47 | haluk | wols: i understood but how can i install. I'm newbie on linux systems |
| 14:20.49 | zbrown | Has anyone had trouble with ghci on Debian etch? Its telling me ghci wasn't built with interactive use? |
| 14:21.08 | wols | !tell haluk about grounding |
| 14:21.29 | no3sc | wols, Well, I don't know were to start. I try to install fglrx-kernel-src but I can't get it to work (I'm using module-assistant to install, don't know any other way) |
| 14:21.37 | wols | !fglrx |
| 14:21.38 | dpkg | The binary driver made available by ATI. See <fglrx one-liner> for installation. see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver for a non-debian installation method, or currently not working with xorg > 7.1 . Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable |
| 14:22.41 | wols | no3sc: you don't need m-a for fglrx btw |
| 14:22.46 | no3sc | wols, so that would be that I need to downgrade to 7.1. I was just about to say that I'm running testing =) |
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| 14:22.58 | wols | so it seems |
| 14:23.05 | no3sc | wols, No I don't need to. But I don't know how to do it otherwise |
| 14:23.18 | no3sc | I'm not that into linux and debian yet. Trying and learning |
| 14:23.46 | wols | however, I'd rather learn to use the non debian method and stay with Xorg 7.2 Afaik ati.com has drivers that work with it. But this is OT in #debian |
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| 14:24.04 | wols | no3sc: but you chose to use the hardest method for installing the drivers :) |
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| 14:24.35 | no3sc | wols, Please share some time to tutor me? :P |
| 14:24.51 | wols | tutor what? |
| 14:25.18 | no3sc | How to install it without module-assistant. |
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| 14:26.49 | wols | that's an ati thing. als see the URL in that factoid |
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| 14:27.39 | wols | basically you download the tarball, run with sh >file.run> and hope for the best (but first look at any install instructions) |
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| 14:28.32 | petemc | wols: did nx do what you needed? |
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| 14:30.06 | wols | petemc: not yet installed sorry. diablo2 is acting up. it eats my full cpu alternating with Xorg. I don't have a lcue why |
| 14:30.18 | wols | it's so bad, not even ssh works anymore or only very intermittently |
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| 14:30.30 | wols | I need several minutes actually kill X... |
| 14:30.54 | wols | any suggestion to limit a process' CPU time? |
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| 14:31.13 | wols | note that D2 always wants 100% cpu being a game. and I don't won't to give it that much :) |
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| 14:31.53 | mith | how do I tell dhclient to stop fricken updating reslv.conf in etch? I don't even have resolvconf installed and removed the domain-name-servers and domain-name options from /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
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| 14:32.59 | valdyn | mith: what's the point of not using a dynamically assigned nameserver? |
| 14:33.02 | mith | err whoops i forgot to remove domain-name so it was just updating the search path |
| 14:33.03 | mith | that fixed it |
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| 14:33.33 | mith | valdyn: because you can only hand out one search path via dhcp and being the admin i have 3 or 4 other dns search paths i need added |
| 14:33.57 | themill | valdyn: I've come across a few adsl modems that claim to be a dns proxy for the local net but only return 0.0.0.0 to all requests. |
| 14:34.14 | mith | (our stuff for production in our dc that noone else in the office ever needs to resolve) |
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| 14:34.43 | valdyn | mith: ugly |
| 14:35.35 | mith | valdyn: ugly how? I just don't want to type fqdn ... now that i found that removing domain-names from dhclient.conf makes it stop updating the search path I've told it to keep pulling the dns servers |
| 14:35.56 | mith | valdyn: and when i do that it completely whacks out the search path ... so doesn't look like i have much choice |
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| 14:37.33 | Penix | !penixstrike IBM and their garbage xseries 232 boards |
| 14:37.33 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking IBM and their garbage xseries 232 boards to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 14:37.55 | solitude | ibms are ovely. |
| 14:37.57 | solitude | lovely |
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| 14:38.08 | mith | no |
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| 14:38.38 | abrotman | Penix: at least it's not dell? :) |
| 14:39.10 | Penix | abrotman: heh. true. more proprietary hell |
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| 14:41.19 | SamuraiDio | i'm having problems with cd-burning, k3b says that my recorder dont recognizes the disc, brasero says that it burns alright, but not is writed. |
| 14:41.24 | SamuraiDio | some clues? |
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| 14:43.49 | solitude | hi, I havea problem. i used su to install bitlbee, but i cant start the daemon as a user, and obvious i dont want to run the ircd as root . how can i run this as a user? |
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| 14:44.53 | SamuraiDio | solitude, what error do you have? |
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| 14:47.42 | solitude | SamuraiDio, as a user, command notfound |
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| 14:47.54 | solitude | if i root or su though, it runsm, then terminates because its run as root. |
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| 14:48.44 | solitude | on debian, how can i mak inetd reload the configuration files? |
| 14:48.46 | SamuraiDio | where is the executable file? where is it placed? and whats its permissions? |
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| 14:49.07 | solitude | no idea. i just did apt-get install bitlbee after doing su ¬_¬ |
| 14:50.13 | SamuraiDio | hmm... |
| 14:50.26 | SamuraiDio | did it installed alright? |
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| 14:52.12 | solitude | yes, it did |
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| 14:56.56 | zyx | I've got a strange problem with a certain NFS Share. "ls" just hangs. Other shares from the same server work seamless. How can I investigate the problem? |
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| 14:57.38 | Hoxzer | IS there repo that would offer lirc kernel modules ? |
| 14:57.43 | Hoxzer | for lates kernel of course |
| 14:58.00 | Hoxzer | or latest that exists for debian... :P |
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| 14:58.44 | lordrich | what's the proper way to generate Grub's menu.lst? |
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| 14:59.03 | lordrich | I know I can write it myself, but isn't there a Debian package which writes it? |
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| 15:01.03 | wols | update-grub |
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| 15:01.20 | wols | Hoxzer: yes. your friendly debian repo does |
| 15:01.24 | tdonahue-laptop | hi all |
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| 15:03.24 | tdonahue-laptop | i'm having a problem with my tftp server, ever time i try and get a file off of the server, i am getting this error " tftpd[12149]: tftpd: read: Connection refused " |
| 15:03.47 | tdonahue-laptop | but if i connect to one of the other interfaces on the server the transfer of the same file works fine |
| 15:04.09 | keith4 | what are you using to connect? |
| 15:04.09 | Yawgmoth | Hello. Let's say, I install a 'stable' debian system, but after some time I figure that I would like to upgrade to 'testing' (For instance, because at the time I installed the system 'stable', there was not much of a difference between 'stable' and 'testing', since 'testing' became 'stable' just recently at that time.) |
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| 15:04.38 | Yawgmoth | Now, would that be save and good to do that, or would it be better to go for testing from the beginning if it is likely that after some time I would update to testing? |
| 15:04.45 | Yawgmoth | *safe |
| 15:04.59 | tdonahue-laptop | keith4, i'm using the tftp client to connect or my polycom voip phones |
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| 15:05.05 | tdonahue-laptop | both have the same problem |
| 15:05.29 | keith4 | i remember having weird tftpd problems with etch |
| 15:05.42 | keith4 | while making pxe boot work |
| 15:05.52 | keith4 | i think the problem was the ipv6 module |
| 15:06.21 | solitude | Hi, I have a new problem. I have a working x server. xfce4 splash screen loads, i get my bar and menus, but ... no desktop background,and i cant right click on the background either. |
| 15:06.26 | tdonahue-laptop | i believe the box is still sarge, let me take a look |
| 15:06.31 | solitude | No errors are showing in the log or ttyl1 |
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| 15:08.00 | damike | hi |
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| 15:08.17 | damike | does anybody know where can i get a driver for "Intel GMA X3100" and 3D support? |
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| 15:09.37 | cwall64 | has anybody else run into errors trying to upgrade libopal-2.2? "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libopal-2.2_2.2.8~dfsg1-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 15:09.37 | cwall64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.37 | cwall64 | " |
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| 15:11.21 | chop1 | !tell cwall64 about bts |
| 15:12.41 | Noven | you using lenny or sid? |
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| 15:12.56 | cwall64 | sid |
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| 15:14.23 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: It's fine to upgrade from stable to testing. |
| 15:14.38 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: If it's from etch to lenny, you should just be able to do a dist-upgrade and not worry too much. |
| 15:15.14 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: Upgrades over a longer period of time than between two stable releases are not at all supported, though. |
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| 15:16.31 | Yawgmoth | chop1: Okay, thanks. |
| 15:16.34 | Yawgmoth | :) |
| 15:16.48 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: np |
| 15:17.34 | freight_ | My question is "what am I missing?" Deb Etch w/ mysql. my.cnf bind_address is IP for nic. Port 3306 is open in firewall. User table shows '%' for host access. nmap of server shows 3306 closed. I'm trying to allow remote access to my mysql server, but am doing something wrong, obviously. What am I missing? |
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| 15:19.06 | freight_ | I'll happily expand on any of the points above, I was trying to keep the wording succinct. |
| 15:19.20 | spheard | pop quiz! if I have a 1mbit/s pipe, gow much data can I put down that in a month? |
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| 15:19.36 | xand | that's easy maths |
| 15:19.38 | petemc | freight_: does it show as listening on that interface in the output of netstat? |
| 15:19.48 | xand | spheard: but do you really mean 1 millibits? |
| 15:19.57 | freight_ | petemc: one sec. |
| 15:20.24 | spheard | xand: I think I might |
| 15:20.46 | freight_ | petemc: no. |
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| 15:22.00 | petemc | freight_: then you need to check your config |
| 15:22.02 | spheard | xand and its not that easy, its quite easy to get ost |
| 15:22.04 | chop1 | freight_: Last I checked myself required a special option to listen on TCP ports at all |
| 15:22.14 | chop1 | freight_: Binding it to the real NIC might not be enough |
| 15:22.43 | freight_ | Ok, I'll start there. Thanks much. |
| 15:22.45 | xand | spheard: ost? |
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| 15:23.12 | spheard | xand lost |
| 15:23.13 | spheard | :-) |
| 15:23.14 | xand | spheard: 1024*1024*3600*24*30 |
| 15:23.19 | xand | bits |
| 15:23.31 | spheard | /8 for bytes |
| 15:23.42 | xand | 339738624000 bytes |
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| 15:24.07 | xand | 339,738,624,000 bytes = 340 GB :P |
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| 15:25.47 | spheard | xand shit! |
| 15:25.52 | spheard | oops |
| 15:26.01 | xand | o.O |
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| 15:27.02 | spheard | wow, so a 100mb/s pipe could get 34000 Gig down it |
| 15:27.12 | mancubus | Does debian support routing between 2 aliases on one PHY interface? |
| 15:27.27 | mancubus | My PC response me with ICMP Redirect |
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| 15:27.30 | spheard | or 34 TB? |
| 15:27.36 | spheard | is that right? |
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| 15:27.52 | mancubus | ip.forwarding is enable |
| 15:27.57 | mancubus | on all interfaces |
| 15:28.10 | bipolar | Does anyone know of a gui for signing and keeping track of ssl certs? |
| 15:28.11 | Yawgmoth | 34'000 GBs would be 34 TBs, yes. |
| 15:29.01 | mancubus | net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 1 |
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| 15:34.23 | CppIsWeird | whats the difference between the CD and the DVD? |
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| 15:34.27 | vorpal | what's the easiest way to get firefox 2+ running on etch? |
| 15:34.55 | CppIsWeird | omg... why is there a need for 22 CD's?!? |
| 15:35.07 | CppIsWeird | *21 |
| 15:35.12 | vorpal | CppIsWeird: that is probably the entire archive |
| 15:35.18 | solitude | vorpal, apt-get instal firefox? |
| 15:35.33 | solitude | its a meta package for iceweasel isnt it? |
| 15:35.39 | vorpal | solitude: that install iceweasel, methinks |
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| 15:35.58 | CppIsWeird | archives of what?? |
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| 15:36.15 | vorpal | CppIsWeird: the debian software archive |
| 15:36.28 | solitude | vorpal, but iceseasel is just a rebranded firefox. |
| 15:36.33 | vorpal | CppIsWeird: i.e., you don't need all of it |
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| 15:36.44 | solitude | you could just get the binary and use make to be honest |
| 15:36.57 | solitude | especiallysince if you have iceseasel, the dependencies are already sorted |
| 15:36.59 | sebastian | Does anyone know why I cant add LinuxDC++ to avant-windows-navigator? |
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| 15:37.16 | CppIsWeird | what do i need to get debian set up on a laptop? |
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| 15:37.48 | vorpal | solitude: OK, then maybe you can explain to me how to install plugins for firefox, such as google toolbar? |
| 15:39.11 | vorpal | CppIsWeird: assuming you have supported hardware, you only need the installation CD |
| 15:39.11 | guk | what's a good light bittorrent client for linux that supports some kinda DHT and is command line ? |
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| 15:40.04 | CppIsWeird | vorpal: cd-1? |
| 15:40.09 | vorpal | yesd |
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| 15:40.25 | chop1 | vorpal: The installation for plugins in iceweasel is exactly the same as for firefox. The name is the only difference (besides a handful of Debianization patches, same as any other package). |
| 15:40.57 | CppIsWeird | and if i dont have the "supported" hardware, i assume i can set things up via the web and stuff? |
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| 15:41.55 | chop1 | CppIsWeird: If you don't have supported hardware, you may find installation difficult with or without the web. |
| 15:42.38 | CppIsWeird | oh, i ment like sound drivers or video drivers after installation. i've installed ubuntu on this machine already, so one would assume debian would not have much trouble. |
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| 15:43.34 | chop1 | CppIsWeird: Yes, installing and configuring things after "installation day" is easy to do in Debian. I would also expect that Ubuntu working is a good indication that Debian will work. |
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| 15:44.18 | solemnwarning | Can I configure rsyncd to keep a list of checksums so that it doesn't need to checksum everything when doing a -c transfer? |
| 15:44.18 | CppIsWeird | ok, i see CD-1 KDE-CD-1 and xfce-CD-1, i assume CD-1 uses gnome? |
| 15:44.29 | vorpal | nice... http://saftsack.fs.uni-bayreuth.de/~dun3/archives/google-toolbar-on-debians-iceweasel/93.html |
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| 15:44.35 | chop1 | CppIsWeird: Yes |
| 15:45.11 | Yawgmoth | What kind of complications could arise from updating the system later on from 'stable' to 'testing, in comparison to going for 'testing' from the beginning? |
| 15:45.26 | chop1 | vorpal: Oh, I see. Hm, I didn't realize google's installer wouldn't work on iceweasel. Sorry about that. |
| 15:45.52 | vorpal | chop1: easy fix. spread the word! ;-) |
| 15:46.13 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: Not really worse one way or another. testing breaks sometimes (though relatively rarely). stable->testing generally works but sometimes maybe not. testing->testing generally works but sometimes not. |
| 15:46.26 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: I'd expect that etch->lenny would be pretty straightforward as far as the upgrade goes. |
| 15:46.48 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: If you're wondering whether wanting testing means you should reinstall testing instead of upgrading your stable system: It doesn't. :-) |
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| 15:47.45 | Yawgmoth | I am going to create a fresh debian-install and only wondering if I should go for testing from the beginning now or go with stable for a while and upgrade if it gets too outdated. |
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| 15:48.08 | pressenter | Testing seems to be pretty stable. |
| 15:48.25 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: If there's no particular reason you want testing, I'd stick with stable until it gets outdated. No reason to expose yourself to possible bugs until there's an upside. |
| 15:48.32 | vorpal | Yawgmoth: testing is for testers |
| 15:48.39 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: But as always YMMV |
| 15:49.06 | Yawgmoth | Well, I see it like chop1 in that regard, thats what Id rather go for stable as long as it is not outdated too much. |
| 15:49.17 | Yawgmoth | *why I'd |
| 15:50.32 | Yawgmoth | That's why the question about all the updating stuff raised in the first place. :) |
| 15:50.45 | Yawgmoth | Thanks for all the answers from everyone I have received so far. |
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| 15:54.41 | oandrew | good one guys |
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| 15:56.57 | Yawgmoth | chop1: That actually was my idea and the reason why I asked all that stuff to check out if it was a good idea. :) |
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| 16:02.06 | Emmanuel_Chanel | http://paste.debian.net/32846 |
| 16:02.08 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! |
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| 16:02.13 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Help me! |
| 16:02.19 | Yawgmoth | Hello :o |
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| 16:02.31 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I have a trouble of installing upnp. |
| 16:02.38 | Emmanuel_Chanel | See: http://paste.debian.net/32846 |
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| 16:03.55 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I cannot remove linux-igd |
| 16:04.05 | Yawgmoth | It somehow doesn't seem to be able to stop the process. |
| 16:04.24 | Yawgmoth | However, that's just a humble observation of mine, I actually have no experience with upnp. |
| 16:04.57 | Yawgmoth | But, if somehing's still running, I highly doubt it will be able to remove it. |
| 16:05.16 | wols | Yawgmoth: you doubt wrongly |
| 16:05.26 | Yawgmoth | wols: Okay. |
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| 16:05.55 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Post-installation failed. And the daemon doesn't work. |
| 16:06.07 | Emmanuel_Chanel | But I cannot remove the linux-igd |
| 16:06.27 | chop1 | Yawgmoth: It looks like it wants you to specify an external interface in /etc/default/upnpd before it's willing to remove it |
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| 16:06.36 | chop1 | *Emmanuel_Chanel rather |
| 16:06.39 | Yawgmoth | Heh |
| 16:06.49 | wols | stop the upnp daemon manually |
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| 16:07.05 | sweetandy | Hey - I'm interested in checking my email at the terminal from now on - what do you guys suggest as a client? |
| 16:07.14 | mofino | Hi, what is the best way to install 32bit libraries into a 64bit Debian? |
| 16:07.18 | chop1 | sweetandy: mutt |
| 16:07.23 | yangvnc | MangosDebian: are you around, i need some crypto advice... |
| 16:07.25 | Emmanuel_Chanel | wols: I don't find the daemon. |
| 16:07.27 | wols | sweetandy: mutt, pine, etc |
| 16:07.32 | Emmanuel_Chanel | process. |
| 16:07.45 | chop1 | mofino: apt-get install ia32libs, if that isn't enough then do a 32-bit chroot |
| 16:07.45 | mofino | grab the 32bit libs and force them into /lib32 in some fashion? |
| 16:07.45 | mofino | oh nice. |
| 16:07.45 | sweetandy | wols: Well Pine is naughty |
| 16:07.45 | mofino | ia32libs, very ncie |
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| 16:07.52 | mofino | Great, thank you chop1 |
| 16:07.56 | chop1 | mofino: np |
| 16:07.58 | ph1g | How would one join two Linux boxen via a USB cable? Would I have to configure a PTP interface for each system? |
| 16:08.46 | chop1 | Emmanuel_Chanel: It sounds like a bug in the program that it won't uninstall if not properly configured, but you should be able to work around it by finishing the configuration that it wants before purging it |
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| 16:09.04 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Thx advice...... |
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| 16:13.14 | anapivirtua_ | Hi world |
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| 16:14.38 | hmr | how a change my bash login for a color ssh ? ex: homer@linux in red ? |
| 16:16.53 | oandrew | hey anapivirtua |
| 16:17.08 | yangvnc | Is it possible to limit the number of false logins for one username and execute a blocking period for some minutes? |
| 16:17.21 | \amethyst | yangvnc: for ssh in particular? |
| 16:17.36 | yangvnc | yes |
| 16:17.41 | \amethyst | yangvnc: fail2ban |
| 16:17.47 | yangvnc | ok |
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| 16:21.10 | Sandi_Sufiandi | is there pdf reader that could create highlighted text on the files? |
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| 16:24.24 | EvilDin | hi, anyone know why do i get by rm command when i am deleting file that there is somekinfd of error with datesystem and file can't be deleted ? |
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| 16:24.53 | ph1g | How would one join two Linux boxen via a USB cable? Would I have to configure a PTP interface for each system? |
| 16:25.03 | wols | EvilDin: unless you give us the exact error and tell us exactly what you do, this won't get anywhere |
| 16:25.15 | yangvnc | Hello EvilDin |
| 16:28.44 | EvilDin | hi |
| 16:28.44 | EvilDin | am i get error in german: Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar |
| 16:28.44 | yangvnc | EvilDin: maybe it's owned by root? |
| 16:28.44 | EvilDin | i am root on server |
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| 16:28.45 | Curalton | ph1g: not possible with USB since it is a master-host protocol |
| 16:28.45 | Curalton | EvilDin: "filesystem read only" |
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| 16:28.45 | EvilDin | what can i do ? |
| 16:28.45 | Curalton | mount -o remount,rw / |
| 16:28.45 | cydork | EvilDin: can you touch/edit/create anyother files? |
| 16:28.46 | ph1g | Curalton: "not possible" is not a good way to think ^_^ I'm sure I could write a driver if I had to. |
| 16:28.46 | cydork | EvilDin: also checl lsattr <filename> |
| 16:28.46 | cydork | s/checl/check/ |
| 16:28.46 | EvilDin | am i can't do anything, edit, create remove |
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| 16:28.46 | cydork | EvilDin: then what Curalton said. |
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| 16:28.46 | Curalton | ph1g: yes, but then it is harldy USB anymore :) - well there is a usb mode in the works which allows master-master communication |
| 16:28.55 | EvilDin | i get: mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
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| 16:29.27 | Curalton | EvilDin: what does "dmesg" say, some kernel oops? |
| 16:29.32 | ph1g | Curalton: I don't have the best understanding of USB protocol, but I would probably have each host register as both master/slave |
| 16:29.54 | cydork | EvilDin: its a usb disk? mp3 player? has some write protection thingy? |
| 16:30.01 | ph1g | EvilDin: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /path/to/mount |
| 16:30.12 | EvilDin | am not it is sata disc inside the maschine |
| 16:30.28 | EvilDin | am dmesg show only error type: IPv6 addrconf: prefix with wrong length 48 |
| 16:30.29 | ph1g | EvilDin: Is this a pxe boot machine? |
| 16:30.48 | EvilDin | pxe ? |
| 16:30.51 | ph1g | netboot |
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| 16:31.22 | yangvnc | \amethyst: well I tried fail2ban with default install, however i get error 2007-07-16 18:29:59,757 fail2ban.actions.action: CRITICAL Unable to restore environment it doesn't ban the IP |
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| 16:31.45 | EvilDin | um i don't think so, it works everything ok till, provider compiled us new kernel: 2.6.21.5 |
| 16:31.49 | ph1g | EvilDin: Youl could try to remount the drive as rw. What does the "mount" command say about the mount? |
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| 16:32.19 | EvilDin | is possible that this problem is related to kernel |
| 16:32.49 | ph1g | EvilDin: Maybe initrd isn't probably remounting the root partition. |
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| 16:33.53 | EvilDin | here is fstab content: http://pastebin.ca/622029 |
| 16:34.05 | ph1g | EvilDin: Please post the output of the mount command |
| 16:34.16 | ph1g | just "mount" by itself. |
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| 16:34.54 | ph1g | EvilDin: your fstab is configured to remount the device read only if there is an error. |
| 16:35.00 | EvilDin | mount log: http://pastebin.ca/622031 |
| 16:35.11 | ph1g | EvilDin: try this : "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /" |
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| 16:35.17 | kazik | hiya guys |
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| 16:35.29 | kazik | i've got a problem with booting the system up |
| 16:35.34 | EvilDin | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 16:35.47 | jetscreamer | -t auto |
| 16:35.55 | kazik | it hangs with some "usb disconnect" thingy... |
| 16:36.05 | ph1g | EvilDin: mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 / |
| 16:36.28 | jetscreamer | it's already rw btw according to his paste |
| 16:36.31 | kazik | it did the same when i was running installer,but then /probe/usb=false helped ;x |
| 16:36.33 | EvilDin | mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 16:36.53 | ph1g | EvilDin: Odd. |
| 16:37.00 | ph1g | mount | grep sda1 |
| 16:37.41 | ph1g | msg me the output of that. |
| 16:37.42 | jetscreamer | does mount say it's ro |
| 16:37.42 | EvilDin | output: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 16:38.06 | ph1g | EvilDin: try "touch /test.file && { echo "success"; rm /test/file }" |
| 16:38.17 | kazik | could anyone try to help me? |
| 16:38.32 | ph1g | kazik: Unplug all usb devices and try again? |
| 16:39.08 | kazik | is there any way to turn usb support off? |
| 16:39.20 | ph1g | kazik: Probably not. |
| 16:39.24 | kazik | awesome. |
| 16:39.30 | ph1g | kazik: Is this a custom kernel? |
| 16:39.34 | kazik | not really. |
| 16:39.47 | kazik | it's a normal one |
| 16:39.56 | EvilDin | ph1g: i get Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar |
| 16:40.21 | ph1g | EvilDin: I no speaka german |
| 16:40.24 | ph1g | :) |
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| 16:40.44 | kazik | okay,so looks like ive gotta try this one out. |
| 16:40.51 | EvilDin | in english should mean: The file system is only readable |
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| 16:41.18 | ph1g | EvilDin: It seems like your SATA drive might have something odd set(check pins?) or a driver is compiled wrong. |
| 16:41.33 | ph1g | EvilDin: We've tried remounting the drive rw, and no workie :( |
| 16:41.39 | EvilDin | i think probably is problem with kernel, and driver in it |
| 16:41.49 | ph1g | EvilDin: The problem is the kernel is mount the device in a way that prevents it being written to. |
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| 16:42.06 | ph1g | EvilDin: tail -1000 /var/log/messages | grep sda1 |
| 16:42.06 | yangvnc | \amethyst: fixed |
| 16:42.07 | EvilDin | ok i will inform our provider of server |
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| 16:42.55 | EvilDin | ph1g: here http://pastebin.ca/622047 |
| 16:43.28 | ph1g | EvilDin: What does "date" say the time on the system now is? |
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| 16:43.49 | EvilDin | Mo 16. Jul 18:43:44 CEST 2007 |
| 16:44.14 | ph1g | EvilDin: Sorry i've lost steam |
| 16:45.04 | EvilDin | :) thank you for your time |
| 16:45.05 | EvilDin | i will contact provider |
| 16:45.05 | ph1g | good luck! |
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| 16:45.23 | jetscreamer | does mount say it's ro or rw |
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| 16:45.41 | jetscreamer | atm |
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| 16:47.26 | jetscreamer | after the remount |
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| 16:49.40 | proppy` | hi, someone know how i can generate a qemu img from a debian chroot ? |
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| 16:51.58 | ph1g | jetscreamer: It's producing errors on mount which causes it to fail to ro |
| 16:52.48 | jetscreamer | my thought is due to shared hosting environmet, that's normal, but no idea just a guess. |
| 16:52.59 | jetscreamer | maybe it's a dedicated server |
| 16:53.41 | themill | proppy`: if you make a normal image (not a qcow image) then you can mount it as a loopback device and just cp or rsync to it. |
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| 16:54.03 | ph1g | jetscreamer: The drive is appears to be local to the machine. I'm not sure what you mean by that. |
| 16:54.09 | proppy` | themill: and booting it with -kernel ? |
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| 16:54.51 | themill | proppy`: you could boot it off something else then chroot to it and then make it a bootable image.... (starting to sound ugly though) |
| 16:55.32 | proppy` | themill: i've successfully rsynced my chroot to the image |
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| 16:55.42 | jetscreamer | ph1g: yeh mine looks like this, not his, so you're probably right: /dev/hdv1 on / type vfs (rw,usrquota,grpquota) |
| 16:55.49 | proppy` | themill: after having it mkfs.ext2 |
| 16:55.59 | proppy` | themill: but i don't really know how to boot on it |
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| 16:56.23 | proppy` | themill: all the -kernel /boot/my_host_current -append root=/dev/hda1 doesn't work |
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| 16:56.51 | proppy` | themill: did you manage to actually boot this kind of image ? |
| 16:57.00 | themill | proppy`: you could boot off a ISO image of a live cd for example with the disk image being added as an extra disk. |
| 16:57.45 | proppy` | themill: oh ok |
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| 16:57.45 | themill | proppy`: then chroot into the extra disk image and then "install" the kernel and grub etc |
| 16:57.45 | proppy` | themill: i see |
| 16:57.57 | themill | proppy`: but no, I've never done it... I only usually use qemu for a certain legacy operating system... |
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| 16:58.07 | proppy` | themill: :) |
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| 16:58.35 | proppy` | themill: thanks for the help :) |
| 16:58.47 | themill | proppy`: np. Hope it works out! |
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| 17:06.09 | debianix | hey, am experiensing some problem when putting my pc to dmz |
| 17:07.38 | debianix | dhcp is 192.168.1.254 and it on the resolv.conf b ... at boot dhcp gets lease from the gateway but after the next line will be network unreachable |
| 17:08.05 | debianix | but it successfully obtain the new external ip address |
| 17:08.12 | debianix | is that something to do with the firewall ? |
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| 17:10.28 | sayers | Yay a nice clean Flux menu :D |
| 17:11.17 | Azar | mister tarz |
| 17:11.20 | Azar | tarzeau |
| 17:11.36 | tarzeau | Azar: yes? |
| 17:11.52 | Azar | I "think" I burned the CD but lots of errors during... how do I check is a success? |
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| 17:12.03 | Gargantua | hi |
| 17:12.26 | Gargantua | what is the command to show all the hard disks I have? |
| 17:12.38 | wols | fdisk -l ? |
| 17:12.40 | esters | Gargantua fdisk -l |
| 17:12.51 | Zynx | I installed a Debian system yesterday (for the first time, i am newbie ;)) And my sound dosent work. It has installed a driver and i can control volume and so on, but i get no sound in my speakers. I use a onboard soundcard on my Asus P5B motherboard. Any suggestions? Please ask if you need more info :) Thanks in advance |
| 17:12.58 | Gargantua | thank you friends :) |
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| 17:13.17 | esters | Zynx , did you run # alsaconf ? |
| 17:13.17 | tarzeau | Azar: qemu -cdrom the.iso |
| 17:13.26 | esters | as root in you terminal |
| 17:13.32 | Zynx | ill try :) |
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| 17:13.39 | esters | ok |
| 17:14.02 | wols | Azar: http://qpxtool.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:14.02 | debianix | Zynx, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 17:14.08 | debianix | and run alsaconf |
| 17:14.39 | debianix | and you are done |
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| 17:14.56 | Zynx | Do i have to restart the system after alsaconf? |
| 17:15.04 | debianix | nope |
| 17:15.04 | esters | Zynx , no |
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| 17:15.41 | Zynx | Its working :) Thanks alot :) |
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| 17:15.49 | johnthewolf | Zynx, make sure the channels are not muted |
| 17:16.14 | Zynx | Hmm the sound is weird |
| 17:16.45 | debianix | if it is not too loud then you have to adjust it with a mixer package |
| 17:17.07 | Azar | wols: i am on an old box with a shaky sarge upgrade, no workable X, all I needed was a 2.4 kernel with scsi drivers... "just to burn this damn iso" :) |
| 17:17.08 | debianix | usually if the pcm is too high it grumbles |
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| 17:17.23 | Azar | tarzeau: ok qemu no workie here... |
| 17:17.36 | Azar | tarzeau: so I would just try it on? good or bad burn? |
| 17:17.52 | Zynx | Is the mixer package standard or something i have to install? :) |
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| 17:18.19 | tarzeau | Azar: checksum or just try it |
| 17:18.29 | tarzeau | Zynx: hehe. which mixer? |
| 17:18.41 | tarzeau | Zynx: i think none of them is standard (maybe desktop has some) |
| 17:18.45 | Zynx | Just something that will fix my sound ;) |
| 17:18.52 | debianix | Zynx, what are you using ? as desktop |
| 17:19.18 | johnthewolf | you can run alsamixer from the command line |
| 17:19.33 | Zynx | Standard? :| didnt change anything yet ;) |
| 17:19.35 | Azar | tarzeau: the burn ended with: cdrecord: fifo had 730 puts and 730 gets cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 665 times full, min fill was 98% |
| 17:19.39 | Zynx | as i said... <- Newbie |
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| 17:20.08 | esters | Zynx what desktop enviroment are you using ? |
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| 17:20.32 | Azar | tarzeau: checksum -cdrom ?? |
| 17:20.46 | tarzeau | Azar: that's good. the cd is good |
| 17:20.48 | Zynx | Gnome? |
| 17:20.49 | tarzeau | Azar: no just use it |
| 17:21.01 | tarzeau | Zynx: can you apt-get install aumix; then run aumix? |
| 17:21.02 | Azar | :) yeeee!!!! 27hours working on it |
| 17:21.05 | tarzeau | !audio |
| 17:21.05 | dpkg | methinks audio is if you are running woody, consider upgrading,ask me about <woody audio> |
| 17:21.53 | Zynx | tarzeau: Installing now :) |
| 17:22.13 | tarzeau | Zynx: says id that you're in the audio group? |
| 17:22.18 | rahul | aumix? eew |
| 17:22.27 | johnthewolf | lol |
| 17:22.36 | Zynx | aumix: error opening mixer |
| 17:22.41 | debianix | lol |
| 17:22.58 | rahul | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.01 | rahul | doh |
| 17:23.11 | debianix | sudo adduser you audio |
| 17:23.38 | debianix | you are in your username |
| 17:23.53 | johnthewolf | you stole my line ;) |
| 17:24.05 | Shadur | Did something break brutally in sid's init scripts? Pretty much everything refuses to startup with a tput warning of some sorts. |
| 17:24.28 | debianix | me ? :S i sowwy |
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| 17:24.59 | rahul | Shadur: welcome to sid |
| 17:25.00 | kevinl-- | help? I just tried to ssh to a server that I have connected to before and now i get : permissions denied (publickey) |
| 17:25.07 | rahul | Shadur: it's probably a termcap problem |
| 17:25.57 | hark | Shadur: do you use usplash? |
| 17:26.29 | Shadur | hark: Dunno, lemme check. |
| 17:26.55 | Shadur | rahul: Looks like the command that breaks every single time is 'tput hpa -2' and the error is "invalid option -- 2" |
| 17:27.14 | rahul | Shadur: something has a bug |
| 17:27.17 | rahul | Shadur: welcome to sid |
| 17:27.26 | Shadur | And yes, I have usplash installed. |
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| 17:27.46 | debianix | huh, think am gonna seize that to ask this question |
| 17:28.03 | Shadur | Looks like removing it fixed the issue. Thanks, hark. |
| 17:28.05 | hark | !dbugs 433357 |
| 17:28.08 | dpkg | #433357:[ncurses-bin] ncurses-bin: breaks the whole system when usplash is installed; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:02 UTC |
| 17:28.20 | jetscreamer | !worship hark |
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| 17:28.24 | Shadur | That'd be it, yes. Bloody ouch. |
| 17:28.26 | Zynx | debianix: Still the same error |
| 17:28.33 | hark | Shadur: apt-listbugs is teh friend |
| 17:28.56 | Shadur | hark: Remembering what I am and aren't actually using is too. |
| 17:29.05 | jetscreamer | is that the 'hey when i use fb my screen goes blank and the system seems to hang on_boot? |
| 17:29.08 | jetscreamer | ' |
| 17:29.24 | Shadur | Anyway, reboot. Easier than trying to manually start up all services that broke... |
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| 17:29.49 | debianix | humm you need to logout and log back in to see yourself in the group audio, do it by typing the command groups |
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| 17:30.56 | Zynx | and all i have to type is aumix afterwards? |
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| 17:31.04 | tarzeau | Zynx: yes |
| 17:31.21 | tarzeau | Zynx: it's a good test if dsp is there, if you're in audio group and if it's mute |
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| 17:34.01 | valdyn | browser id is probably iceweasel though, which may be an issue |
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| 17:34.13 | valdyn | ops |
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| 17:36.32 | Zynx | still weird sound... sounds like they are in a space or something |
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| 17:37.16 | debianix | give your pc a slap, and reboot it :D |
| 17:37.32 | Zynx | i did ;) |
| 17:37.38 | debianix | lol |
| 17:37.42 | Zynx | alsa found 2 drivers... gonna try the other one |
| 17:37.52 | debianix | yeah maybe its that |
| 17:37.58 | debianix | which board you have again ? |
| 17:38.05 | Zynx | Asus P5B |
| 17:38.45 | debianix | deluxe ? |
| 17:38.52 | Zynx | no |
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| 17:39.14 | Zynx | Dont think i schould be using the other driver.... Its ISA Legacy.... |
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| 17:39.41 | debianix | which driver you using right now ? |
| 17:40.02 | Zynx | hda-intel |
| 17:40.28 | zicho | Is it possible to make a command loop a specific amount of times? |
| 17:40.56 | debianix | maybe its that soundfilter thing in their ! |
| 17:41.00 | chop1 | zicho: for x in `seq 1 5`; do echo hello; done |
| 17:41.20 | chop1 | zicho: Replace "5" and "echo hello" to taste |
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| 17:41.53 | Zynx | How do i disable the filter? |
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| 17:42.07 | debianix | it shoudl be onboard |
| 17:42.23 | Zynx | Bios? |
| 17:42.36 | zicho | i do not understand |
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| 17:44.31 | Zynx | debianix: Schould the filter be in Bios? |
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| 17:44.39 | mog | hello |
| 17:44.40 | debianix | humm donno, you have to read the booklet for it |
| 17:44.48 | mog | anyone else running unstable get hosed today? |
| 17:44.50 | debianix | i doubt |
| 17:45.02 | debianix | <http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1178&l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&l4=0 > |
| 17:45.04 | mog | i rebooted and now all init scripts fail with tput error |
| 17:45.10 | debianix | it doesn't say much there |
| 17:46.34 | Zynx | agree ;) |
| 17:46.55 | Zynx | I just sounds like a wrong driver or something to me :o/ |
| 17:47.05 | debianix | actually i event doubt its the noise filter |
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| 17:47.30 | Roey | Hi, is anyone with amd64 debian/sid getting this on apt-get dist-upgrade: "E: Internal Err or, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6" ? |
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| 17:47.45 | debianix | try re running alsaconf and add it to modprobe when it asks u |
| 17:47.48 | valdyn | Roey: yea, check the bts |
| 17:48.06 | debianix | reboot and see if it "sounds " better |
| 17:48.06 | Roey | valdyn: yes, last time I checked it, it wasn't updated to reflect this. |
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| 17:48.50 | Zynx | I have been trying 2 times :) Each time it added it :) |
| 17:49.05 | Zynx | gonna try a reboot more |
| 17:49.06 | valdyn | Roey: oh, was that you who asked earlier? |
| 17:49.54 | Zynx | Is there an updated Alsa or any other drivers out there? |
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| 17:50.37 | Roey | valdyn: yes |
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| 17:51.05 | mog | anyone else seeing tput errors, i cant think of anything i could have done to cause this, but it leaves my system barely operable |
| 17:51.06 | Roey | valdyn: they've uploaded maybe one or two packages that nix the deps problem but present this new bug |
| 17:51.09 | ivan` | is it normal to see / mounted as both rootfs and /dev/hda3? |
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| 17:51.56 | valdyn | Roey: im not getting any of these issues |
| 17:52.00 | Roey | hmm |
| 17:52.03 | Roey | on amd64 sid?? |
| 17:52.13 | valdyn | Roey: so uh, try 'dpkg --configure -a' |
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| 17:52.18 | valdyn | Roey: right |
| 17:52.29 | TheInfinity | hell ... has somebody experience with hfs+ drivers here? with other words - is it possible, to give linux full rw rights to an mac osx installation? |
| 17:52.36 | mog | yes TheInfinity |
| 17:52.38 | TheInfinity | without loosing data? |
| 17:52.42 | mog | or it was back in 2.4 |
| 17:52.47 | mog | i assume it still is now |
| 17:52.51 | mog | as i did it back in the day |
| 17:53.05 | TheInfinity | it is possible in general, but i dont want to repair lots of things all the time ;) |
| 17:53.15 | TheInfinity | thats why i ask how good the drivers are |
| 17:53.16 | mog | you just have to have kernel driver for it |
| 17:53.26 | mog | i never had any problem with it |
| 17:53.35 | mog | but i for the most part just read off of it |
| 17:54.22 | TheInfinity | mog: i will most read it, too, i just want to access my private files and my music - and music is most times just reading ... |
| 17:54.35 | mog | yeah i never had any problem doing that |
| 17:54.38 | Zynx | Its weird... Some of the tones in the sound sounds ok. But what is supposed to be background sound is the thing you hear, and what you are supposed to hear is in the background |
| 17:54.40 | mog | and i seem to remember writing too |
| 17:54.49 | TheInfinity | problem is that i have no chance to get another partition so linux will have access to the whole mac osx installation ;) |
| 17:55.07 | mog | whats the problem with that |
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| 17:55.29 | TheInfinity | i am new to mac osx and i know how much problems with ntfs exist :) |
| 17:56.09 | TheInfinity | so i aked about the quality of hfs+ drivers. but as you said it seems to be no pro :) |
| 17:56.10 | Roey | valdyn: oh, I only knew of apt-get -f install... hmm, I'll do that, thanks |
| 17:56.11 | mog | ntfs!= hfs+ |
| 17:56.38 | valdyn | i dont think hfs+ had to be reverse engineered |
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| 17:57.06 | mog | and darwin drivers are available at the very least just for reading |
| 17:57.08 | rudenstam | anyone got any tips why my sdb got buffered reads at 2 MB/s and sda got them at 59 MB/s.... Identical disks, both sata and both connected to same PCI card |
| 17:57.10 | TheInfinity | ok then its much easyer for driver developers. i just dont know hfs+, thats the point :) |
| 17:57.32 | mog | no problem TheInfinity |
| 17:57.36 | mog | i hope it works out for ya |
| 17:57.52 | TheInfinity | thanks :) |
| 17:57.52 | valdyn | rudenstam: dmesg should report timeouts of the cable is crap |
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| 17:58.55 | mog | /usr/bin/tput: invalid option -- 2 |
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| 17:59.10 | mog | is the error i get when i start any init script |
| 17:59.14 | hark | mog: get rid of usplash |
| 17:59.25 | mog | ? |
| 17:59.28 | hark | !dbugs 433357 |
| 17:59.31 | dpkg | #433357:[ncurses-bin] ncurses-bin: breaks the whole system when usplash is installed; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:02 UTC |
| 17:59.36 | mog | yuck |
| 17:59.37 | mog | thanks |
| 17:59.41 | mog | be back in a sec |
| 17:59.44 | Zynx | Is there an updated Alsa or any other drivers out there? :) |
| 17:59.56 | mog | thanks again hark |
| 18:00.04 | hark | !info alsa-source etch |
| 18:00.05 | dpkg | alsa-source: (ALSA driver sources), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0.13-5 (etch), Packaged size: 2479 kB, Installed size: 2532 kB |
| 18:00.34 | debianix | laters |
| 18:00.39 | Zynx | thanks :) |
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| 18:03.21 | rudenstam | valdyn: no weird stuff printed in dmesg |
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| 18:04.14 | valdyn | rudenstam: maybe that drive was occupied doing something else too |
| 18:04.15 | Roey | valdyn: your dpkg --configure -a allowed me to apt-get -f install without it failing outright, but I still get this problem: http://rafb.net/p/rBmlBo34.html |
| 18:04.24 | seth1248 | Where is the keymap file in etch? |
| 18:04.28 | rudenstam | valdyn: I'll rerun it when smart has finished in 2 hours |
| 18:05.04 | valdyn | Roey: do you really need a 100% functional 32bit environment right now? |
| 18:05.09 | Roey | valdyn: no |
| 18:05.19 | Roey | valdyn: I don't run anything in a chroot actually |
| 18:05.30 | valdyn | Roey: 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i386_2.6-2_amd64.deb' |
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| 18:06.03 | Roey | valdyn: hmm, how would I get back the 32-bit functionality later? |
| 18:06.14 | valdyn | Roey: im not breaking it |
| 18:06.44 | valdyn | Roey: im just not being 100% safe, but most likely nothing will break so.. |
| 18:07.05 | Roey | valdyn: I mean, it still doesn't accept that, either. |
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| 18:07.22 | valdyn | Roey: hmm? what's the error? |
| 18:07.29 | Roey | one sec |
| 18:07.31 | Roey | another dep problem. |
| 18:07.34 | Roey | brb |
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| 18:08.35 | Roey | valdyn, http://rafb.net/p/YuMw2h27.html |
| 18:08.41 | Roey | BudgetDedicated: bwahaha, nice nick |
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| 18:09.08 | valdyn | Roey: that's no problem, just proceed with your apt-get -f install |
| 18:09.15 | chuck | Hello, how do I change my name that shows up in Finger? |
| 18:09.17 | Roey | ok |
| 18:09.19 | Roey | valdyn: ok |
| 18:09.20 | valdyn | Roey: or dist-upgrade |
| 18:09.23 | dlisboa | I cant get rid of xfce as the default choice of `startx'. my ~/.xinitrc isnt read at all (/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc neither). is there a file where xfce could be the absolute default choice that i dont know of?. |
| 18:09.44 | chuck | Anyone know? |
| 18:09.48 | stew | chuck: man chfn |
| 18:09.49 | valdyn | Roey: ( apt-get dist-upgrade -f install doesnt make sense, and is not doing what you think anyway ) |
| 18:09.51 | xand | double negatives are bad mmkay |
| 18:10.00 | chuck | stew: Thank you |
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| 18:10.40 | Roey | valdyn: apt-get -f install, no? |
| 18:10.58 | valdyn | Roey: just run it |
| 18:11.29 | Roey | apt-get -f install is what I ran |
| 18:11.31 | Roey | now |
| 18:11.54 | Roey | wow, it seems to be configur(at)ing many packages this time |
| 18:11.55 | Roey | thanks :) |
| 18:12.15 | Zynx | Since i cant get my onboard soundcard up and running, i am trying with my USB soundcard. But Alsa dosent find it. Do i have to use something else than Alsa for USB cards? |
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| 18:12.30 | keith4 | usb soundcard? |
| 18:12.39 | Zynx | yes |
| 18:12.42 | valdyn | Zynx: no, just plug it in |
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| 18:12.53 | keith4 | is it really a card then? |
| 18:12.57 | keith4 | more like a usb soundbox |
| 18:12.59 | valdyn | Zynx: usb sound is standardised mostly, there's only 1 driver. |
| 18:13.05 | seth1248 | Where is the keymap file in etch? |
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| 18:14.10 | Glaucus | do empty folders consume disk space ? |
| 18:14.16 | valdyn | Glaucus: yes |
| 18:14.23 | valdyn | Glaucus: funny question |
| 18:15.04 | Glaucus | valdyn: how much space for an empty folder ? |
| 18:15.19 | valdyn | Glaucus: ls -ld /path/to/folder |
| 18:15.29 | chuck | Glaucus: Make an empty folder and then do ls -ld |
| 18:15.48 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.56 | valdyn | doesnt need to be empty actually |
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| 18:16.14 | seth1248 | Does anyone here know the keymap file is in etch? |
| 18:16.16 | valdyn | ( depending on the fs ) |
| 18:17.04 | chuck | Hmm, when I do chfn, I can't change my Full Name, it's already filled in, I can only edit my Room Number and things like thar |
| 18:17.05 | valdyn | !wayttd seth1248 |
| 18:17.06 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, seth1248? |
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| 18:18.06 | chuck | !wayttd dpkg |
| 18:18.06 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, dpkg? |
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| 18:19.08 | stew | chuck: what command did you type? |
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| 18:19.43 | chuck | stew: Sorry, I didn't read the man page first, supposedly chfn doesn't allow users to change their full name with the default configuration |
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| 18:19.51 | chuck | I've got it now though, Thanks |
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| 18:20.26 | seth1248 | dpkg: A bug in kde has messed with my keyboard. My arrow keys don't work (not even from gnome). I want to see if kde messed with the keymap file. |
| 18:20.53 | EmeraldCat | Is it possible to send a job to the background and then bring it to the foreground sending it some commands in a bash _shell_script_? |
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| 18:21.11 | chop1 | EmeraldCat: I believe & and fg and whatnot work in scripts just as from the terminal |
| 18:21.33 | chop1 | seth1248: What makes you so sure it's a bug in kde? |
| 18:21.49 | valdyn | EmeraldCat: maybe you really want to use something like 'screen' |
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| 18:22.46 | EmeraldCat | chop1: I'm trying, but I keep getting the error: 'fg: no job control'. |
| 18:23.04 | EmeraldCat | valdyn: From a shell script? |
| 18:23.47 | Zynx | With my USB device, Alsa dosent find any cards at all |
| 18:23.59 | inFw | EmeraldCat: yes. Just start the screen in detached mode and use -X to send commands to i |
| 18:24.03 | inFw | *to it |
| 18:24.03 | valdyn | Zynx: does lsusb list your usb device? |
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| 18:24.34 | valdyn | Zynx: is udev installed? |
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| 18:24.41 | valdyn | Zynx: run 'uname -r' |
| 18:25.13 | Zynx | uname -r = 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 18:25.14 | seth1248 | chop1: I enabled a second keyboard layout in kde, after doing so the arrow keys don't work, not even when using gnome (which is my default desktop). |
| 18:25.19 | zoran | hello to everybody, i didn't recive any update for about 3 or so weeks, it's anything wrong with that, or not |
| 18:25.31 | valdyn | zoran: with etch? |
| 18:25.37 | zoran | 4.0 |
| 18:25.39 | valdyn | zoran: that's quite normal |
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| 18:26.04 | zoran | valdyn; thanks so lot |
| 18:26.08 | Zynx | But no, lsusb dosent list my device :S |
| 18:26.12 | mog | hark, thanks it fixed my problem |
| 18:26.30 | valdyn | Zynx: does any other usb device work? |
| 18:26.35 | Zynx | Yes |
| 18:26.50 | dkr | installing gforge with etch didn't work very well by default. time to delve into configurnig it myself. :) |
| 18:26.51 | valdyn | Zynx: ok - fix your usb speakers |
| 18:27.07 | Zynx | Its my sennheiser usb headphones |
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| 18:27.56 | valdyn | Zynx: whatever it is.. if its not listed in lsusb, then its not plugged in properly or is broken, or that usb port is broken |
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| 18:28.03 | scenestar | yoyoyo |
| 18:28.12 | stream_ | i have a debian box, but sendmail isnt running anymore.. id ont know why |
| 18:28.13 | seth1248 | chop1: That's why I want to look at my keymap file to verify if maybe the kde keyboard layout selector is what may have caused this. |
| 18:28.14 | scenestar | !dpkg bcm43xx |
| 18:28.21 | abrotman | scenestar: /msg dpkg foo |
| 18:28.26 | scenestar | !dpkg scenestar bcm43xx |
| 18:28.33 | abrotman | scenestar: /msg dpkg foo |
| 18:28.33 | scenestar | h0shit |
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| 18:28.55 | valdyn | stream_: why would sendmail be running? |
| 18:28.59 | chop1 | seth1248: Okay, then you shouldn't assert that kde is broken, though. You should say "I suspect kde broke my keymaps" or some such. |
| 18:29.10 | stream_ | sendmail i smy mail daemon |
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| 18:29.12 | stream_ | and it wont run |
| 18:29.14 | chop1 | stream_: sendmail is not installed by default on Debian, and I wouldn't recommend installing it |
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| 18:29.36 | chop1 | stream_: What does it say when you try to run it? |
| 18:29.37 | scenestar | anyone here have any information on the bcm4318 chipset used with the bcm43xx |
| 18:29.44 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 18:29.46 | stream_ | Starting Mail Transport Agent: sendmail |
| 18:29.48 | stream_ | sits there |
| 18:30.19 | scenestar | it worked fine on sarge, but even when i blacklist the module on etch it constantly drops connections |
| 18:30.26 | scenestar | abrotman |
| 18:30.32 | dimsuz | interesting... why I can browse the web in browser, but if i try to ping *any* site from command line it says: unknown host "www.foo.bar" for every host i try? |
| 18:30.32 | scenestar | NICE MOVE LINKING ME TO A 404 |
| 18:30.48 | valdyn | dimsuz: proxy? |
| 18:30.53 | abrotman | NICE CAPS |
| 18:30.54 | chop1 | stream_: Is there anything interesting in your logs? What happens if you strace /etc/init.d/sendmail start? |
| 18:30.55 | dimsuz | valdyn: nope |
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| 18:31.07 | valdyn | dimsuz: your resolver library is broken |
| 18:31.17 | abrotman | scenestar: did you actually try reading it .. or just click the link and skip the rest ? |
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| 18:31.23 | scenestar | dude |
| 18:31.26 | scenestar | its 4 lines |
| 18:31.29 | scenestar | of things i allready know |
| 18:31.30 | dimsuz | valdyn: but if I enter www.foo.bar in konqueror it works like a charm |
| 18:31.36 | valdyn | dimsuz: i know |
| 18:31.49 | wols | dimsuz: try a non existent domain in konq |
| 18:31.53 | dimsuz | valdyn: i'm using glibc from testing. is there a way to fix this? |
| 18:31.58 | stream_ | it keeps printing getdents64(3, /* 102 entries */, 4096) = 4080 |
| 18:31.59 | dimsuz | wols: like what? |
| 18:32.18 | wols | foo.bar for example? |
| 18:32.21 | valdyn | dimsuz: run 'debsums libc6 | grep -v OK' |
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| 18:32.39 | dimsuz | wols: what's the point? I guess it fails :) |
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| 18:32.59 | wols | cause if you use a proxy the proxy usually shows a special error page? |
| 18:33.01 | valdyn | dimsuz: and if that yields no error: 'debsums libnss-mdns | grep -v OK' |
| 18:33.13 | chop1 | stream_: That sounds like a bug in sendmail, but I could be wrong |
| 18:33.28 | dimsuz | valdyn: one moment. i need to install debsums ;) |
| 18:33.37 | valdyn | dimsuz: umm |
| 18:33.49 | valdyn | dimsuz: i thought debian used debsusms by default |
| 18:33.55 | stream_ | hmm |
| 18:33.57 | stream_ | sendmail -bd works |
| 18:33.58 | dimsuz | valdyn: seems like it isn't :) |
| 18:34.07 | valdyn | dimsuz: yea, 'optional' |
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| 18:34.50 | dimsuz | valdyn: first run w/o output, second said that libnss-mdns package is not found |
| 18:34.53 | wols | stream_: do you have any special reason to use sendmail? |
| 18:35.02 | abrotman | wols: it sends mail ? |
| 18:35.03 | dimsuz | valdyn: should i install it? |
| 18:35.07 | stream_ | its always been in there |
| 18:35.08 | dimsuz | i guess i should :) |
| 18:35.12 | stream_ | many users already use it |
| 18:35.17 | wols | abrotman: shutup. you know better |
| 18:35.19 | valdyn | dimsuz: nah |
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| 18:35.35 | wols | stream_: windows "has always been there. even more users use it" |
| 18:35.46 | dimsuz | wols: nope, i've no proxy |
| 18:35.48 | wols | stream_: stop using fallacies and start using real arguments |
| 18:35.59 | valdyn | dimsuz: use nslookup or dig instead of ping, see if that works |
| 18:36.07 | valdyn | dimsuz: i still think your resolver is broken though |
| 18:36.47 | dimsuz | valdyn: perhaps - I use kppp & dialup and I think it installs custom resolv.conf while connected |
| 18:37.00 | valdyn | dimsuz: thats not the problem |
| 18:37.16 | dimsuz | valdyn: hmm |
| 18:37.19 | valdyn | dimsuz: the resolv.conf file i mean - that is not the problem |
| 18:37.53 | xingu | stream_: you probably need define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES', `True')dnl in sendmail.mc or provider.m4 |
| 18:38.09 | xingu | stream_: but no I'm not going to hold your hand presently and explain why. |
| 18:38.11 | valdyn | dimsuz: dig goes around the resolver, nslookup should too |
| 18:38.56 | dimsuz | valdyn: i tried 'host' |
| 18:38.59 | dimsuz | it works :) |
| 18:39.22 | dimsuz | valdyn: !!! hehe |
| 18:39.25 | dimsuz | i got it |
| 18:39.29 | dimsuz | you know what? |
| 18:39.41 | valdyn | dimsuz: do tell. |
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| 18:40.32 | dimsuz | ping doesn't like "http://" part. if I call it like "www.google.com" it works. if "http://www.google.com" it doesn't. Stupid me :) ping doesn't know about "protocol" part of an URL |
| 18:40.36 | dimsuz | or should it? :) |
| 18:40.46 | valdyn | dimsuz: hah |
| 18:41.00 | dimsuz | simple, yeah? :))) |
| 18:41.01 | valdyn | dimsuz: ping has its own protocol |
| 18:41.07 | dimsuz | icmp, i know |
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| 18:42.29 | TrueDD | Salut à tous |
| 18:42.37 | TrueDD | hi all |
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| 18:46.29 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 18:46.29 | dpkg | <ricky_clarkson> To +b or not to +b, that is the +q |
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| 18:48.00 | SoulChild | my iceweasel crashes somethimes when i play youtube video or any other flash videos, is this a known bug, what to do ? |
| 18:48.01 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: guess what? I got it installed |
| 18:48.30 | xingu | SoulChild: ring macromedia support? |
| 18:48.31 | nite613_ | SoulChild: That was happening to me and it was because of my sound setup |
| 18:48.45 | abrotman | no way .. flash is buggy?! |
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| 18:50.28 | chop1 | SoulChild: I also had problems that seemed to be traceable to something about my sound setup. There's always gnash... |
| 18:50.50 | kevinl-- | is there any way that I can (from ssh) turn on gnome's VNC "remote desktop" and make it so that gnome auto-logins to a certain user? I need vnc access to a box that is sitting at a gnome login prompt. |
| 18:51.08 | SoulChild | chop1: gnash? but does gnash suppord all flash applets rightly ? |
| 18:51.18 | chop1 | SoulChild: No. :-( |
| 18:51.48 | chop1 | SoulChild: My solution has been to run the Macromedia plugin and crash Iceweasel frequently, but that doesn't seem all that satisfying a solution so far |
| 18:52.27 | abrotman | kevinl--: gdm does have the ability to auto-login a user |
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| 18:54.04 | chop1 | kevinl--: You could use ssh -X instead. You might even be able to turn on the auto-VNC via ssh -X, and then run "startx -- :8" and hope that everything is set up properly to start gnome when you run startx... |
| 18:54.06 | xingu | kevinl--: http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/ if you have some time to spare. |
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| 18:54.56 | Zynx | How do i enable the option to run 70Hz ? :) |
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| 18:55.52 | pumpkin0 | Zynx: TFT or normal, old-style monitor ? |
| 18:56.10 | mancubus1 | I can't use XForward for SSH session. I have Error: Can't open display: error |
| 18:56.13 | kevinl-- | chop, yes maybe ssh is the best answer i only need to run 1 app . |
| 18:56.26 | xingu | kevinl--: also see... |
| 18:56.28 | xingu | !freenx |
| 18:56.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, freenx is a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
| 18:56.43 | mancubus1 | does any know how configure SSH fro X11Forward? |
| 18:56.49 | chop1 | mancubus1: Make sure you enable X11 forwarding on the ssh server, and install xbase-clients on the server as well |
| 18:56.50 | abrotman | !sshx |
| 18:56.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
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| 18:57.47 | xingu | hmm, that frenx link is bung |
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| 18:58.01 | xingu | this one isn't - http://freenx.berlios.de/ |
| 18:58.58 | mancubus1 | chop1, I have rechecked it. I have all needed options. I think problem may be with xauth |
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| 19:00.24 | earthian | Hello. |
| 19:00.36 | earthian | I am back online and in UK this time :) |
| 19:00.44 | tarzeau | flash is only 32bit! |
| 19:01.12 | Zynx | pumpkin0: TFT |
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| 19:01.56 | xingu | tarzeau: I wouldn't be surprised if large parts of the VM were only 16bit |
| 19:02.06 | valdyn | !sshx |
| 19:02.07 | dpkg | i guess sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 19:02.07 | pumpkin0 | Zynx: TFTs should allways run at 60Hz. Running them at 70Hz can create all kinds of problems (fuzzy image, limited res..) |
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| 19:03.18 | Zynx | pumpkin0: :o/ you sure about it? I am used to 70hz @ windows |
| 19:03.37 | abrotman | windows also comes with IE |
| 19:04.04 | MangosDebian | yangvnc: yes? |
| 19:04.13 | pumpkin0 | Zynx: yes. The TFT technologie is flickerfree (unless you buy a cheaply implemented overdrive gamer model) |
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| 19:04.49 | xlq | Anyone know where apache2 puts uploaded files temporarily? |
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| 19:05.54 | MangosDebian | Szeraax: grub all good now you mean? |
| 19:06.03 | mancubus1 | I don't understand where is problem ... |
| 19:06.23 | mancubus1 | I generate xauth record. but i have still error "can't open display" |
| 19:06.26 | valdyn | mancubus1: what's the error message? |
| 19:06.46 | valdyn | mancubus1: which is the command you are using to connect? |
| 19:06.47 | mancubus1 | valdyn, Can't open display: localhost:10.0 |
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| 19:06.57 | mancubus1 | I use -XYC options |
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| 19:07.02 | kevinl-- | im having that same issue |
| 19:07.17 | valdyn | mancubus1: is the xauth package installed? |
| 19:07.33 | mancubus1 | valdyn, yes on both PC |
| 19:07.43 | valdyn | mancubus1: did you restart the remote ssh server after you edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? |
| 19:07.53 | pumpkin0 | Zynx: the detailed version: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-parameters.html |
| 19:08.14 | chop1 | mancubus1: Also, try deleting ~/.Xauthority on the server; I've seen a stale version of that file interfere with ssh -X before |
| 19:08.16 | mancubus1 | valdyn, yes. I have restarted server. |
| 19:08.58 | mancubus1 | chop1, I had do it. New file generates. But problem with can |
| 19:09.05 | mancubus1 | can't open still exist |
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| 19:09.34 | valdyn | mancubus1: you dont need to use -Y |
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| 19:09.51 | mancubus1 | valdyn, yes. I use -XYC options |
| 19:10.12 | mancubus1 | xcalc |
| 19:10.12 | mancubus1 | Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.10" refused by server |
| 19:10.12 | mancubus1 | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 19:10.13 | mancubus1 | Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.10 |
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| 19:10.23 | kevinl-- | my ssh X11 forwarding is working now, but it wont let me run X apps as root, it rejects the authentication. the app i need is firestarter, it needs some root priveledge to edit the iptables. any ideas? |
| 19:10.42 | valdyn | kevinl--: use sudo or sux |
| 19:11.02 | valdyn | !sux |
| 19:11.02 | dpkg | sux is probably su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
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| 19:11.37 | mancubus1 | I made a mistake |
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| 19:12.53 | mark87 | anyone got a good solution to ftp |
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| 19:13.02 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: not only is grub good now, debian is now installed and running on the box |
| 19:13.03 | mark87 | transfering through winscp is slow |
| 19:13.19 | valdyn | mark87: why would it be slow? |
| 19:13.39 | kevinl-- | how would you add a user to sudo group so that he may run /usr/sbin/firestarter and change firewall settings ? |
| 19:13.59 | mark87 | valdyn, it just is and the only thing connected is the winscp |
| 19:14.06 | mark87 | cant even get 100KB |
| 19:14.09 | valdyn | mark87: no, it isnt |
| 19:14.25 | mark87 | valdyn, well the only thing i am using |
| 19:14.27 | valdyn | mark87: sounds like you have an issue that is unrelated to ssh/scp |
| 19:14.49 | mark87 | well i can get faster speeds on my other bo |
| 19:14.51 | mark87 | x |
| 19:15.17 | MangosDebian | Szeraax: gratz |
| 19:15.47 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: so yeah, thanks for being an awesome jerk, and force me to actually learn how to use grub |
| 19:15.57 | MangosDebian | yw :) |
| 19:16.01 | mark87 | valdyn, is there a better solution to transfering files between my home pc and my box? |
| 19:16.09 | MangosDebian | Im an asshole, and I'm proud of it |
| 19:16.22 | valdyn | mark87: not really 'better' just different |
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| 19:16.54 | mark87 | all i want is faster transfer cause if i transfer from my other box using flashfxp i get alot faster speeds |
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| 19:17.20 | valdyn | mark87: i see no clue on this having anything to do with ssh |
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| 19:17.51 | valdyn | mark87: crappy wlan card / connection / driver / all of those 3 |
| 19:17.51 | mark87 | valdyn is there any other way to connect to the etch box without ssh |
| 19:18.02 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: I took apart my external enclosure for my 300 GB hard drive, and plugged the power\ide cable into a random cd drive i had laying around. Of course, i couldn't boot from this drive, but it let me read cds whilst in windows. I copied some of the contents of the cd to my hard drive (vmlinuz,init, everything else except the pool) and told the grub to boot from those. then, once those were booting, they went looking for the cd drive (since they though |
| 19:18.04 | mark87 | all those are fine : |
| 19:18.06 | mark87 | ) |
| 19:18.49 | valdyn | mark87: lots of ways, netcat is probably perfect to benchmark this |
| 19:18.59 | mark87 | netcat? |
| 19:19.01 | Szeraax | debian is soo awesome. I was also trying to get parted to boot, but it sucked. |
| 19:19.11 | valdyn | mark87: or is one of both a windows box? |
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| 19:19.35 | mark87 | one is a windowsw vista pc |
| 19:19.43 | mark87 | the box i trying to downlaod from is debian etch |
| 19:20.10 | valdyn | mark87: apache is probably installed already, you can download things you put into /var/www/ |
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| 19:20.22 | mark87 | ? |
| 19:20.24 | valdyn | mark87: dpkg -l | grep apache |
| 19:20.33 | valdyn | mark87: that's a webserver.. |
| 19:21.08 | xlq | The xine debian package doesn't work for me |
| 19:21.12 | xlq | as soon as I start it |
| 19:21.16 | xlq | I see a flash of splash screen |
| 19:21.21 | mark87 | ok apache is there |
| 19:21.21 | xlq | and get a glibc error: |
| 19:21.36 | chop1 | xlq: Binary nvidia driver? Checked the BTS? |
| 19:21.39 | xlq | "*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x081a7160 *** Aborted |
| 19:21.45 | valdyn | mark87: that would be a decent way to test your net |
| 19:21.48 | xlq | I'm using flrgx, the ati driver |
| 19:22.11 | xlq | * fglrx |
| 19:22.13 | mark87 | ok |
| 19:22.26 | mark87 | how do i create a rar via ssh? well tar file |
| 19:22.27 | Hilaus | can I generate ssh key pair with the apache process (www-data) ? |
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| 19:22.38 | valdyn | mark87: hmm? |
| 19:22.46 | Szeraax | xlq: I'm sorry |
| 19:22.48 | mark87 | cause everything i have is multiple files |
| 19:23.01 | mark87 | and i dont want to download each file seperately |
| 19:23.25 | xlq | mark87: man tar |
| 19:23.32 | pawalls | Hello, is there a configuration option for APT that forces it to install -dev packages whenever their respective library packages are installed? Eg. If I install libx11-6, also install libx11-6-dev |
| 19:23.33 | valdyn | mark87: tar cvzf file.tar.gz /path/to/stuff |
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| 19:23.42 | mark87 | ahh cool thanks |
| 19:24.00 | Szeraax | pawalls: i know of none, and doubt it |
| 19:24.08 | xlq | pawalls: doesn't libx11-6 get installed when you install libx11-6-dev ? |
| 19:24.17 | MangosDebian | Szeraax: im curious, how in the hell do you install windows on that machine if it has no input devices? I mean, what does win use for recovery process/factory default |
| 19:24.26 | earthian | whats the fastest UK debian security mirror? my ISP gives best speed to ftp.fr.debian.org... however it does not have security upgrades |
| 19:24.36 | xlq | brb |
| 19:24.52 | earthian | or where could i find a list and/or test speeds to some particular mirrors? |
| 19:24.52 | Szeraax | no, i got the lappy broken, no manufactor crap on it |
| 19:24.53 | chop1 | earthian: Security is not mirrored to my knowledge |
| 19:24.53 | pawalls | xlq, I'm thinking something I could also set in preseed. It's handy to have all -dev packages when people install things if it's a developer workstation. |
| 19:24.54 | MangosDebian | earthian: Im under the impression there is only 1 security site |
| 19:24.59 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: it didnt have hdd or ram |
| 19:25.03 | chop1 | earthian: Too much risk of an out-of-date mirror |
| 19:25.08 | earthian | chop1, ftp.de.debian.org does have security |
| 19:25.21 | pawalls | xlq, And possibly not always appropriate to educate them to install -dev packages instead of the normal package. |
| 19:25.28 | MangosDebian | earthian: not to say people cant mirror it on their own |
| 19:25.31 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: i fixede it up, got a new lcd screen (it was cracked, then sold cheap) |
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| 19:25.38 | earthian | kk |
| 19:25.40 | valdyn | its mirrored somehow |
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| 19:25.51 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: I had access to a computer with win 2003 and used ris on that |
| 19:25.54 | MangosDebian | Szeraax: ah, so it was just a normal machine but you just didnt have all the parts yet? |
| 19:25.59 | earthian | so you suggest me use ftp.debian.org/debian-security right? :) |
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| 19:26.04 | valdyn | they did *something* after it broke down repeatedly due to massive load |
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| 19:26.51 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: it can boot pxe, (it has a cd drive slot, but i'm not going to pay $50 for this one little chip i need to convert from normal lappy 50pin to their little crap port) |
| 19:27.03 | valdyn | earthian: use security.debian.org |
| 19:27.33 | MangosDebian | Szeraax: oh, a laptop? sorry. ya they are a pain without drives |
| 19:27.38 | earthian | valdyn, ok thanks |
| 19:27.44 | valdyn | earthian: that's at least 3 physical mirrors on one name |
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| 19:27.50 | earthian | good |
| 19:28.16 | chop1 | xlq: Did you install the ATI driver using the Debian install process, or a binary installer? Also, is there anything in the BTS? |
| 19:28.36 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: yeah, if it was a normal comp, i would put in one of my many cd drives into and go... |
| 19:29.21 | chop1 | Szeraax: They do make ATA<->laptop IDE adapters; I have one that came with a USB<->IDE cable I bought some time ago |
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| 19:29.52 | Szeraax | chop1: i bet they do... |
| 19:29.57 | chop1 | Szeraax: Oh, NM -- I misread and thought you just needed a normal 50pin adapter |
| 19:30.06 | Szeraax | chop1: i know of none at the moment |
| 19:30.31 | Szeraax | chop1: i need a 50 pin adaptor, to some other wide flat one |
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| 19:30.58 | Szeraax | perhaps is it lappy ide that i need to adapt to?, chop1 |
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| 19:32.57 | Szeraax | i dont know what i need to conver to really... chop1 |
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| 19:34.48 | s0n1 | someone have mirror of clamav 0.91 ? |
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| 19:36.08 | chop1 | s0n1: snapshot.debian.org |
| 19:37.06 | mark87 | ok with appache how come i only get a test page |
| 19:37.13 | \amethyst | s0n1: 0.91 is in unstable right now, unless you have one of alpha arm hppa ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 |
| 19:37.14 | s0n1 | chop1: tanks! |
| 19:37.22 | \amethyst | and sparc |
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| 19:38.21 | PiousMinion | I'm getting some very strange errors on fs. I go to run e2fsck and it says to specify a different superblock. How do I find out what superblock to specify? |
| 19:38.32 | MangosDebian | mark87: you mean the "It works!" page? |
| 19:38.36 | PiousMinion | s/on fs/on my fs |
| 19:38.41 | mark87 | yeah |
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| 19:39.06 | ghatak_mobile | Hi, i have a system running sarge+mysql 4. I want to upgrade the box to ETCH without doing a rebuild. I know i can use distupgrade switch with apt-get, however i do not want to update mysql 4 to 5 as it is going to break lot of stuff that depends on it. What is the best course of action for me....? |
| 19:39.07 | \amethyst | PiousMinion: man e2fsck.. depends on the blocksize of your fs |
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| 19:39.25 | MangosDebian | mark87: What else would you want there instead? You passwd and shadow files? Perhaps a fully working cpanel to your system with default passwords? |
| 19:39.26 | xand | mark87: are you expecting there to be a website ready and waiting for you? :P |
| 19:39.36 | MangosDebian | xand: :) |
| 19:39.44 | mark87 | what you mean password |
| 19:39.52 | mark87 | xand i just got told to put files in www |
| 19:39.58 | PiousMinion | \amethyst: How would I determine the block size of my fs? |
| 19:40.00 | xand | in /var/www? |
| 19:40.05 | mark87 | yeah |
| 19:40.07 | MangosDebian | xand: I think we let him down by not having his e-commerce site running |
| 19:40.12 | xand | awww |
| 19:40.21 | MangosDebian | mark87: no, cat /etc/passwd |
| 19:40.25 | xand | MangosDebian: if I were him I'd be demanding a refund |
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| 19:40.39 | MangosDebian | xand: oh, for sure ;) |
| 19:40.41 | mark87 | MangosDebian, |
| 19:40.42 | mark87 | no |
| 19:41.04 | mark87 | i am to used to windows with everything working :) |
| 19:41.06 | MangosDebian | mark87: no, i said passwd cause I meant passwd |
| 19:41.15 | mark87 | yeah but there aint that file |
| 19:41.19 | xand | NEVERMIND |
| 19:41.20 | MangosDebian | ?! |
| 19:41.31 | mark87 | /etc/passwd |
| 19:41.38 | xand | ORLY |
| 19:41.45 | PiousMinion | lol |
| 19:41.49 | MangosDebian | how in the world you NOT have a passwd file? |
| 19:41.56 | mark87 | i dont know |
| 19:41.57 | \amethyst | PiousMinion: normally with dumpe2fs -h <device>, but that depends on the superblock being there |
| 19:42.01 | MangosDebian | :) |
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| 19:42.12 | mark87 | take it there is supposed to be one? |
| 19:42.12 | xand | mark87: clearly you must be mistaken. |
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| 19:42.18 | mark87 | i aint |
| 19:42.27 | mark87 | i got pongo and pam.d |
| 19:42.30 | PiousMinion | lol |
| 19:42.32 | \amethyst | PiousMinion: try 32768 (4k blocks), 16384 (2k blocks), and 8192 (1k blocks) |
| 19:42.37 | mark87 | sory pango |
| 19:42.37 | MangosDebian | that or he has some really kick but security setup :) |
| 19:42.42 | PiousMinion | \amethyst: thanks |
| 19:42.44 | inFw | mark87: you're actually using linux. right? |
| 19:42.49 | mark87 | yeah etch |
| 19:43.02 | mark87 | its a server :) |
| 19:43.04 | \amethyst | PiousMinion: err, that should be 8193 for 1k blocks, not 8192 |
| 19:43.10 | xand | a likely story |
| 19:43.15 | inFw | lol.. and you're telling us that /etc/passwd does not exist in your system? |
| 19:43.20 | mark87 | yip |
| 19:43.21 | stew | mark87: does "getent passwd" return a bunch of stuff or an error? |
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| 19:43.56 | mark87 | bunch of stuff as far as i can see |
| 19:44.06 | stew | mark87: what does "grep passwd /etc/nsswitch.conf" return? |
| 19:44.07 | s0n1 | chop1: don't have.. |
| 19:44.25 | s0n1 | i need create .deb of clamav... i compile .tar.gz . |
| 19:44.33 | s0n1 | 0.91 |
| 19:44.38 | mark87 | passwd : compat |
| 19:44.53 | stew | s0n1: why not use volatile: /msg dpkg volatile |
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| 19:45.58 | mark87 | see i do have passwds somewere |
| 19:46.09 | xand | what does stat /etc/passwd say? |
| 19:46.18 | blubberdiblub | sounds like a NIS setup |
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| 19:46.44 | stew | blubberdiblub: if it were nis, then nsswitch.conf would mention nis, or else it would be specified in /etc/passwd |
| 19:46.48 | xand | I thought they still had /etc/passwd but not used... NIS is no good if the network is down |
| 19:46.53 | stew | blubberdiblub: or is there another way to use NIS? |
| 19:47.02 | mark87 | File: `/etc/passwd' |
| 19:47.02 | mark87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.07 | xand | so it IS there. |
| 19:47.08 | xand | jeez. |
| 19:47.13 | mark87 | but i can not cd /etc/passwd |
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| 19:47.17 | xand | mark87: stop telling rubbish |
| 19:47.22 | xand | yes, it's not a directory |
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| 19:47.23 | stew | mark87: no, becuase it is not a directory, it is a file |
| 19:47.51 | mark87 | ok i can nano i |
| 19:47.52 | mark87 | t |
| 19:48.01 | stoned | hi stew |
| 19:48.10 | xand | this is all MangosDebian's fault :P |
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| 19:48.15 | mark87 | sorry it is the only way i new how to find soemthign |
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| 19:48.30 | valdyn | mark87: why are you messing with that file at all? |
| 19:48.42 | mark87 | i aitn they asked if it was there |
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| 19:49.06 | blubberdiblub | stew: well, i meant the + syntax, but nevermind ;) that requires an /etc/passwd ... |
| 19:49.09 | MangosDebian | xand: don't blame me for someone else's problems :) |
| 19:49.26 | valdyn | mark87: i just see alot of miscommunication above |
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| 19:49.43 | mark87 | i tend to have a tendancy to break things so dont touch things i dont know |
| 19:49.48 | mark87 | ? |
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| 19:49.57 | valdyn | mark87: that's perfect. |
| 19:50.12 | wols | !wayttd mark87 |
| 19:50.12 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, mark87? |
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| 19:50.55 | MangosDebian | any of you guys running flash in linux? seems theres keylogger exploit out for all platforms. fyi |
| 19:51.10 | Szeraax | MangosDebian: good to know |
| 19:51.22 | yos | hi theer |
| 19:51.29 | valdyn | MangosDebian: i read that as 'a possibility to create a keylogger', there's no actual keylogger |
| 19:51.38 | xand | how do you know? :P |
| 19:51.39 | mark87 | lol trying to find out why i can not get speed via winscp |
| 19:51.44 | mancubus1 | MangosDebian, it can't be without root uin |
| 19:51.56 | MangosDebian | wols: don't ask lol. I mentioned "passwd", he corrected me as "password" and I correct him with "no, thats what I meant" and ever since he's been claiming he has no "passwd" file. Really a good read :) |
| 19:52.13 | wols | MangosDebian: he had a problem before you and xand started trolling him |
| 19:52.16 | mark87 | lol |
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| 19:52.25 | MangosDebian | valdyn: true |
| 19:52.28 | yos | is posibile to close all Telnet ports sessions in a debian ? not only 23. i have a chat server site with a socket open in 9999 ...but i need 9999 to be open for my web chat users. |
| 19:52.37 | mark87 | wols all i want is fast speed so tryed valdyn's way |
| 19:52.38 | xand | I thought it was to do with apache, not scp |
| 19:52.42 | mark87 | now appache is being funny |
| 19:52.54 | mark87 | valdyn, suggested appache |
| 19:53.04 | valdyn | wols: hes just trying to transfer a file or a few. He does not believe that scp is fast enough, so he got told to copy 1 file to /var/www/ and download that |
| 19:53.04 | mark87 | so trying that |
| 19:53.09 | MangosDebian | wols: far from it. Was more us teasing him :) |
| 19:53.18 | wols | yos: kill the app listening on it and make it not start again, depending on the app that |
| 19:53.22 | mark87 | but i can not view /var/www |
| 19:53.33 | valdyn | mark87: that';s default |
| 19:53.34 | mark87 | i get test page |
| 19:53.35 | RvGaTe | where can i check how many packages i can install ? |
| 19:53.42 | valdyn | mark87: juat access the file |
| 19:53.44 | wols | valdyn: depends. if his cpu is slow compared tot he LAN link it won't be fast enough |
| 19:53.45 | xand | mark87: did you replace the index page? if not, that's what you'll get |
| 19:53.45 | mark87 | ? |
| 19:53.50 | xand | mark87: but anyway, just access the fil |
| 19:53.52 | xand | +e |
| 19:53.53 | mark87 | ahh weres that |
| 19:53.58 | valdyn | wols: yea, but were talking about 100kb/sec in his case |
| 19:53.58 | mark87 | and how do i do that |
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| 19:54.08 | xand | open a web browser.... |
| 19:54.12 | mark87 | ok |
| 19:54.17 | yos | wols i have a Chat server side open on a socket port. but i have unwanted person wich telnet my port and my Chat server side get Blocket during the telnet session Open. is theer any COD to block them ?? i need port open for my Login Users only to can Chat betwen them ..."sorry pour english" |
| 19:54.22 | xand | type the address http://blahblah/yourfile |
| 19:54.24 | valdyn | mark87: http://host/file.tar.gz |
| 19:54.47 | mark87 | ahh easyer way :) |
| 19:54.50 | wols | yos: if a telnet blocks your chatserver that server is shit. get a better one |
| 19:54.53 | mark87 | dunno how to edit the index file |
| 19:54.57 | mark87 | was never good at coding |
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| 19:55.42 | wols | mark87: for transferring files, make a directory in /var/www/. name doesn't matter. then on the client webbrowser http://ip of your syste.com/directorynameYouJustMade |
| 19:55.43 | stoned | you telnet to an irc server? |
| 19:55.45 | stoned | thats hardcore |
| 19:55.51 | wols | mark87: you will see a list of files you can download |
| 19:56.13 | stoned | wols: I put stuff in UserDir |
| 19:56.21 | stoned | wols: ~/public_html |
| 19:56.28 | yos | wols thanks |
| 19:56.29 | valdyn | wols: that has to be enabled first |
| 19:56.29 | wols | stoned: an irc server doesn't block if one user uses telnet and doesn't conform to protocll a shitty homebrew chatserevr that is shit might when the telnet user does something malicious |
| 19:56.30 | stoned | I don't like to mess with /var/www |
| 19:56.32 | mark87 | stoned i am using another linux server at the moment |
| 19:56.35 | valdyn | stoned: that has to be enabled first |
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| 19:56.51 | wols | valdyn: I never enabled anything and it works for me(tm) |
| 19:57.02 | stoned | valdyn: yes, and it isn't hard. I just jumped in, but maybe he could just enable UserDir in apache.conf |
| 19:57.03 | valdyn | wols: was meant for stoned |
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| 19:57.51 | valdyn | stoned: actually, i want him to go back to using scp as soon as he realises that its fine to transfer files |
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| 19:58.00 | stoned | valdyn: even better |
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| 19:58.12 | moshii | what's the best(tm) way of automounting nfs exports on a client? |
| 19:58.15 | rudenstam | valdyn: still 2.75 MB/s, passed smart test without problem |
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| 19:58.19 | wols | yos: you can block the user's IP with iptables or such but then he gets another IP and you're back to square one. currently you use buggy software so the good thing is to use better one if you can't fix it, not to bandaid it |
| 19:58.27 | mark87 | web browser is faster :) |
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| 19:58.45 | valdyn | mark87: how fast is it now |
| 19:58.52 | mark87 | quite a bit lol |
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| 19:59.03 | mark87 | i cant get atleast 300 to 400 of it |
| 19:59.15 | MangosDebian | moshii: fstab seems popular these days |
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| 19:59.25 | valdyn | mark87: 300 kbit? |
| 19:59.30 | mark87 | bytes |
| 19:59.31 | moshii | MangosDebian: I mean mounting on demand.. |
| 19:59.47 | jeff_ | is there a simple fix (such as some form of ftp proxy) for outbound ftp attempts when using a fairly straightforward iptables setup? (mine for instance allows inbound connections on several service related ports, but nothing else has been configured, hence the problem). i'm fairly used to PF, but i'm kindof new to iptables. |
| 19:59.49 | valdyn | mark87: on a /g wlan? |
| 19:59.56 | MangosDebian | moshii: apt-cache search automount |
| 20:00.16 | mark87 | valdyn, either wireless connected to router and downloading or by the pc which is wired |
| 20:00.28 | valdyn | mark87: its slow |
| 20:00.33 | mark87 | ? |
| 20:00.39 | stew | moshii: apt-cache show autofs |
| 20:00.45 | mark87 | i only have upto 8 meg and thats about half |
| 20:00.48 | moshii | MangosDebian: yes, and there are few different solutions.. other people here may have one that is prefered and I'd like their opinions.. |
| 20:00.59 | Szeraax | well, see ya later guys. thanks for the help, again! |
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| 20:01.30 | MangosDebian | moshii: sorry, opinions cost extra when solicited :) |
| 20:02.01 | mark87 | i can not give u one as i dont know what i doing and would break it |
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| 20:02.37 | bluesceada_ | moshii: hal+udev ? |
| 20:02.47 | MangosDebian | mark87: sssh, go play with your passwd file |
| 20:03.04 | mark87 | hehe |
| 20:03.10 | mark87 | i wont do taht i completely break it |
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| 20:03.25 | MangosDebian | sounds like it already is |
| 20:03.29 | mark87 | lol |
| 20:03.37 | mark87 | well not my fault cd would not find it |
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| 20:03.49 | MangosDebian | i don't even want to know.... |
| 20:04.34 | mark87 | well i did not know i had to nano it and even type it in |
| 20:04.39 | Azar | hehe good news that evil adobe flash is putrid |
| 20:05.02 | Azar | I mean rotten |
| 20:05.57 | ghatak_mobile | Hi, i have a system running sarge+mysql 4. I want to upgrade the box to ETCH without doing a rebuild. I know i can use distupgrade switch with apt-get, however i do not want to update mysql 4 to 5 as it is going to break lot of stuff that depends on it. What is the best course of action for me....? |
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| 20:06.22 | Azar | ghatak_mobile: read the release notes |
| 20:06.48 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 20:07.44 | abrotman | ghatak_mobile: the best you can do is put mysql on hold .. but be aware that there is no mysql4 in etch .. and you'll lose security updates for mysql4 when sarge support ends .. (and god knows what else will break because mysql5 isn't there) |
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| 20:08.14 | mass0ud | hello |
| 20:08.21 | mass0ud | what must I do after building a new kernel with regards to modules |
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| 20:08.37 | lrn | hey |
| 20:08.38 | mass0ud | because my module database in /etc/modprobe.d isn't coherent |
| 20:08.39 | valdyn | !custom kernel |
| 20:08.39 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 20:08.44 | lrn | i just finished installing debian |
| 20:08.53 | lrn | and i got alot of missing headers files missing |
| 20:08.57 | lrn | like socket.h and stuff |
| 20:09.01 | lrn | i also installed gcc |
| 20:09.09 | lrn | what package will install me all the headers ? |
| 20:09.09 | valdyn | !b-e lrn |
| 20:09.09 | dpkg | lrn: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 20:09.22 | MangosDebian | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/touch-me/linux-mpx-multi+touch-table-may-become-free-diy-microsoft-surface-one-day-278613.php |
| 20:09.24 | valdyn | lrn: you dont want ALL headers. |
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| 20:11.00 | databuddy | ewr09432u50293u~!~~!!!! |
| 20:11.02 | lrn | valdyn: i installed that build-essential and still socket.h is missing |
| 20:11.08 | databuddy | a friend was a dork and filled the /home dir to fullness |
| 20:11.11 | Heston | why is it that my partitions sizes are read differently according to fdisk, the debian installer and df? |
| 20:11.24 | databuddy | and i deleted like a gig of stuff and its still showing full... what can i do to get it working again? |
| 20:11.29 | databuddy | just delete more stuff? |
| 20:11.50 | databuddy | i took out like a gig already :-: |
| 20:12.13 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: right, well right now the priority is to move to etch without loosing mysql4, however in next 6 months or so I will plan to migrate to mysql 5 by running it side by side |
| 20:12.13 | Heston | databuddy, he likely used the 5% reserved aswell, which can be fairly large depending on the partition size |
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| 20:12.34 | databuddy | yeah |
| 20:12.37 | databuddy | 30gig partition |
| 20:12.52 | Heston | 1.5 gigs reserved |
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| 20:13.03 | tarzeau | 25 GB for a 500 GB disk/partition |
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| 20:13.05 | databuddy | arg |
| 20:13.13 | databuddy | friggan idiot |
| 20:13.26 | databuddy | is there a way to setup a samba share so that its limited to a max size? |
| 20:13.36 | tarzeau | databuddy: quota? |
| 20:13.46 | tarzeau | databuddy: or a policy? |
| 20:13.48 | Heston | you can do qutoas without samba |
| 20:13.53 | lrn | where can i get socket.h file ? |
| 20:14.06 | n0mad | does anyone have a working xdvi on debian lenny ? |
| 20:14.13 | databuddy | tarzeau policy - max size on a samba shared folder |
| 20:14.40 | lrn | valdyn ? |
| 20:15.13 | tarzeau | databuddy: we have a policy it's forbidden to have 2800000 files on his disk (if we need to make backups) |
| 20:15.56 | lrn | i just installed build-essential but i got more missing headers files |
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| 20:16.00 | databuddy | tarzeau ok.// i need a size limitation or so |
| 20:16.09 | lrn | like socket.h |
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| 20:16.22 | tarzeau | databuddy: you just say "no files bigger than x" |
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| 20:16.42 | lrn | !headers |
| 20:16.45 | lrn | !b-e |
| 20:16.46 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential |
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| 20:16.51 | abrotman | ghatak_mobile: might as well stay with sarge .. until security runs out .. and get your stuff working on mysql5 |
| 20:16.52 | tarzeau | lrn: i got /usr/include/sys/socket.h from libc6-dev |
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| 20:16.58 | xlq | Gah, now I can't find ALSA headers |
| 20:17.04 | numer | does anyone know of a tool which can encrypt passwords in sha? |
| 20:17.08 | Heston | lrn, are you looking for the c or c++ std libray? |
| 20:17.23 | tarzeau | numer: you can not encrypt passwords in sha. you can make hashes of them |
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| 20:17.43 | lrn | Heston i got that too why its telling me its missinggg |
| 20:17.43 | numer | tarzeau but how are the tools doing this? |
| 20:17.55 | tarzeau | numer: you could try with openssl |
| 20:17.58 | wols | lrn: what are you trying to compile? |
| 20:18.02 | Heston | lrn, which one are you looking for? |
| 20:18.07 | numer | tarzeau i see |
| 20:18.16 | databuddy | tarzeau no a total folder size limitation - files can be any size |
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| 20:18.23 | Heston | are you compliling c or c++ code? |
| 20:18.33 | lrn | Heston its ok ! i found the problem. it was in the C file |
| 20:18.35 | lrn | thanks |
| 20:18.41 | tarzeau | databuddy: they either you use quota or you so no more than 10 GB for you... |
| 20:18.53 | amb | I have a server with a rather long uptime that started out as woody and is now etch, all except the kernel which remains 2.4.27 or similar (hand compiled kernel). No etch linux-images are installed, and I want to move to use these. I'm not currently running udev. what do I need to do / watch out for, apart from "aptitude install linux-image-686 udev" and hope for the best (machine is a long way away but have a serial console). |
| 20:19.10 | tarzeau | amb: how much uptime? |
| 20:19.17 | amb | Um about 2 or 3 years. |
| 20:19.31 | amb | I lied (slightly) as I rebooted it 186 days ago. But before that over a year. |
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| 20:20.02 | wols | amb: does the bootlaoder work over seiral console? |
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| 20:20.10 | PrinceAMD | hi all |
| 20:20.10 | wols | and is it lilo or grub? |
| 20:20.19 | amb | LILO is configured to use serial console. Untested :-) |
| 20:20.35 | PrinceAMD | what command can i use to see what i have installed in a selection using apt or dpkg |
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| 20:21.23 | amb | wols: I am concerned it may want device specifications as /dev/sdxxxx not /dev/hdxxxx and udev stuff. |
| 20:21.37 | abrotman | !installed |
| 20:21.37 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 20:21.54 | wols | amb: debian doesn't need udev. just a ncie to have |
| 20:22.12 | pumpkin0 | can i make autofs beep on umounts ? |
| 20:22.26 | wols | amb: hda/sda I'm less sure about. which is why I suggest a way to boot the old kernel again |
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| 20:24.10 | amb | wols: I am pretty sure there is a lilo command that boots a different image once. I have a power cycler. |
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| 20:27.57 | xXCarpXx | hello |
| 20:28.10 | xXCarpXx | i just installed python over "apt-get install python" |
| 20:28.28 | xXCarpXx | everything seemed smooth, but the interpreter isnt starting when i type "python" |
| 20:28.44 | xerophyte | i didn't know you can have rpm on the debian ? box can you have rpm ? |
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| 20:28.54 | valdyn | xerophyte: dont do it |
| 20:28.58 | chop1 | xXCarpXx: What happens when you type 'python'? |
| 20:29.21 | chop1 | xerophyte: You _can_ delete every other file in /usr/bin, and much more easily too :-). It doesn't mean either of them is a good idea. |
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| 20:29.43 | pheeror | hi, i install debian 4.0 amd64 and there isn't /etc/init.d/iptables ... and i found some discussion that it was removed ... |
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| 20:30.00 | amb | wols: i.e. I can lilo -R to the new one. I am quite confident with kernel images normally, I am just not used to the debian packaged images. |
| 20:30.04 | valdyn | !wayttd pheeror |
| 20:30.04 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, pheeror? |
| 20:30.24 | pheeror | valdyn: /etc/init.d/iptables save |
| 20:30.35 | pheeror | valdyn: save iptables rules to survive reboot without hacking |
| 20:30.37 | xerophyte | valdyn, i mean one of our server use it .. i mean it has legato rpm .. but i never seen rpm intalled on a debian system so wondered |
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| 20:31.20 | pumpkin0 | xerophyte: never uninstall or upgrade that thing. it is a ticking timebomb. |
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| 20:31.37 | xerophyte | pumpkin0, oh okay |
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| 20:31.52 | valdyn | pheeror: there's alot of firewall tools |
| 20:31.59 | runa | hi can sb help me configure the touch pad. It works but i cant do the scrolling. this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m68ae864 |
| 20:32.15 | xerophyte | pumpkin0, why just wondering will it remove the bin folder something just wondering why is ticking timebomb |
| 20:32.17 | pheeror | valdyn: i like pure iptables, no need for anything different |
| 20:32.22 | xXCarpXx | chop1: http://dpaste.com/14613/ |
| 20:32.25 | xXCarpXx | that happens |
| 20:32.30 | valdyn | pheeror: uh, so make your own script |
| 20:32.32 | pheeror | valdyn: so i must to copy init script for iptables from older debian version right? |
| 20:32.46 | pheeror | valdyn: ok, i'm gonna report bug |
| 20:32.48 | valdyn | pheeror: i dont really know what that script does precisely |
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| 20:33.21 | xXCarpXx | but under /usr/local/bin is also no python-file |
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| 20:33.24 | pheeror | valdyn: just too make devs life harder, because i'm really a littl eupset |
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| 20:33.50 | valdyn | pheeror: plain iptables scripts dont really need support from the debian side |
| 20:34.11 | valdyn | !find init.d/iptables sarge |
| 20:34.21 | pheeror | !find init.d/iptables woody |
| 20:34.22 | pumpkin0 | xXCarpXx: what does "echo $PATH" say ? |
| 20:34.43 | pheeror | !find init.d/iptables lenny |
| 20:34.51 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'init.d/iptables' returned no results. |
| 20:35.01 | xXCarpXx | pumpkin0: http://dpaste.com/14614/ |
| 20:35.06 | valdyn | pheeror: cant search woody |
| 20:35.11 | valdyn | pheeror: not like that.. |
| 20:35.39 | xXCarpXx | i think apt-get isnt really installing python |
| 20:35.46 | pumpkin0 | xXCarpXx: hmm... the file should be under /usr/bin/pythoon. Is it there ? |
| 20:35.50 | xXCarpXx | because there arent any files in the usual directories |
| 20:35.55 | xXCarpXx | no it isnt^^ |
| 20:36.11 | pumpkin0 | xXCarpXx: which debian are you running ? |
| 20:36.23 | xXCarpXx | 3.1 |
| 20:36.30 | Heston | !java |
| 20:36.31 | dpkg | Java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun partially released java as GPL on Nov 13, 2006 (rest expected to be released in 2007). There are other implentations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in etch/sid in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>, <non-free>. |
| 20:36.41 | chop1 | xXCarpXx: What does 'dpkg -l python' say? What does 'dpkg -l python* | grep ^ii' say? |
| 20:37.07 | stew | xXCarpXx: does "/usr/bin/python2.3" work? |
| 20:37.19 | pheeror | valdyn: it looks it has never been in debian (: |
| 20:37.23 | Heston | !non-free |
| 20:37.23 | dpkg | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there . See #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
| 20:37.43 | blubberdiblub | pheeror: seems they removed the /etc/init.d/iptables since 1.2.7-8 ... deliberately that is. but there's nothing wrong with creating one on your own (or copying it from somewhere, but make sure you review it before using it) |
| 20:37.49 | pumpkin0 | !tell Heston about selftell |
| 20:37.52 | chop1 | pheeror: I would say that if you found a discussion about its removal, it's been removed (for reasons discussed in the discussion) and complaining about it won't do you much good |
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| 20:38.13 | xXCarpXx | http://dpaste.com/14615/ |
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| 20:38.58 | valdyn | i dont see how there could be any other reason but that no one wanted to maintain it |
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| 20:39.01 | stew | xXCarpXx: oh, so python isn't installed, which explains why /usr/bin/python doesn't work, python2.4 is installed, so probably /usr/bin/python2.4 works |
| 20:39.15 | stew | valdyn: /etc/init.d/iptables? |
| 20:39.23 | valdyn | stew: yep |
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| 20:39.44 | xXCarpXx | hmm thx for your help guys |
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| 20:39.46 | xXCarpXx | i will try it |
| 20:39.51 | stew | valdyn: the maintainer thought that firewall rules really should be in a pre-up line and not sometime later during the boot process |
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| 20:39.55 | xXCarpXx | but there is no python2.4^^ |
| 20:39.57 | spheard | does anyone here have servers with Level3? |
| 20:39.59 | xXCarpXx | all files are missing^^ |
| 20:40.05 | stew | xXCarpXx: aptitude reinstall python2.4 |
| 20:40.10 | xXCarpXx | y^^ |
| 20:40.11 | stew | xXCarpXx: or aptitude install python |
| 20:40.17 | xXCarpXx | yes |
| 20:40.27 | pumpkin0 | xXCarpXx: /usr/bin is writable for root ? |
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| 20:40.57 | xXCarpXx | one sec pumpkin0 |
| 20:40.59 | muszek | hi.... I added myself to some group. can I somehow reload permissions without logging out? |
| 20:41.08 | xXCarpXx | ahhh nice one guyes |
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| 20:41.19 | xXCarpXx | [22:39:58] <stew> xXCarpXx: or aptitude install python <- i deleted everythin and ran this command |
| 20:41.19 | muszek | because I still get "permission denied" when trying to save that file |
| 20:41.23 | xXCarpXx | now it works |
| 20:41.26 | pheeror | stew: but there is no support for this way either |
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| 20:41.57 | pumpkin0 | muszek: start another, new shell. |
| 20:42.14 | spyhd3r | dpkg vrms |
| 20:42.14 | dpkg | it has been said that vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky non-free software... apt-get install vrms, or now more accurate than the real rms in some situations such as gdb-doc and emacs21-doc :) |
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| 20:42.34 | stew | pheeror: sure there is |
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| 20:43.15 | valdyn | no idea how this is supposed to work, i just put a fw refresh there myself |
| 20:43.33 | pheeror | stew: something more high-level than iptables-save /rubish and iptables-restore /rubish |
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| 20:44.00 | stew | pheeror: how would you like it to work instead? |
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| 20:44.19 | muszek | pumpkin0: it's in gnome... |
| 20:44.34 | pumpkin0 | muszek: log out an back in. |
| 20:44.53 | muszek | pumpkin0: yeah, I know that would work... I'm just wondering if I have to |
| 20:45.00 | stew | pheeror: like what could be higher level than iptables-restore? |
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| 20:45.09 | pheeror | stew: anyway, it's waste time "discuss" this; i will do it this way, but i would like to work like with iptables init script and if you want to you could use pre-up /etc/init.d/iptables start |
| 20:45.30 | muszek | oh well... logging out :) |
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| 20:45.31 | muszek | cya |
| 20:45.50 | ||cw | having a hard time finding info on this: is there a date set when security patches will no longer be provided for sarge? |
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| 20:46.13 | pheeror | stew: now you have to think about files and everytime you use iptables-save you have to know where these files are, it's not as small problem as it looks |
| 20:46.31 | spheard | j |
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| 20:47.45 | aca2 | how do i get /etc/sysconfig/iptables to load when the system starts? i thought saving that file it would start automaticaly |
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| 20:48.05 | valdyn | aca2: that's no debian file |
| 20:48.18 | aca2 | i feel like a fool, |
| 20:48.22 | aca2 | no wonder |
| 20:48.28 | pheeror | aca2: (-: |
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| 20:48.32 | annoia | Uhm... Suddenly my workstation no longer mounts the nfs-mounts I have on a different server. They're not set to noauto in fstab, though, and I can mount them manually by doing a mount /mnt/share... Any idea what changed? |
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| 20:49.09 | pheeror | aca2: there is nothing like that in debian, you have to use iptables-save for saving rules and iptable-restore in pre-up in interfaces for loading |
| 20:49.45 | aca2 | pheeror thanks |
| 20:49.58 | xand | you dont have to do it that way |
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| 20:50.01 | capiira | hmm hi whats the real differente between upgrade and dist-upgrade in apt? |
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| 20:50.12 | valdyn | capiira: read the manpage |
| 20:50.20 | pheeror | aca2: you're welcome; init.d/iptables was removed as bad practice |
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| 20:50.48 | stew | pheeror: so make a firewall-up script that simply runs iptables-restore /path/to/file and a firewall-save script that runs iptables-save /path/to/file |
| 20:51.30 | pheeror | stew: or i could just copy init.d/iptables from older debian ... |
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| 20:52.58 | xjih78 | my keymap can't change |
| 20:54.14 | xjih78 | im using im with 2.6.18-4-686 kernel |
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| 20:54.48 | valdyn | meh, cant get intel g33 chipset to work w/ compiz. Windows don't refresh. |
| 20:54.56 | xjih78 | any ideas? |
| 20:55.05 | JarJarBinks | does dpkg or anybode here , have information about why I'm regularly seeing run bzip2recover messages when I do apt-get update |
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| 20:55.37 | valdyn | !bzip2 |
| 20:55.38 | dpkg | from memory, bzip2 is a high-quality block-sorting file compressor, but see bz2 |
| 20:55.43 | valdyn | !bzip2recover |
| 20:55.53 | JarJarBinks | I just poked dpkg for that... nothing |
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| 20:56.18 | valdyn | JarJarBinks: never seen bzip2recover |
| 20:56.20 | tabris|a1ay | !bz2 |
| 20:56.20 | dpkg | bz2 is, like, the extension used for file created by bzip2, a program like gzip that gives better compression(particularly on text files) but takes much more memory to run see <bzip2>. or use the j switch to tar, or install and use unp (ask me about <unp>) |
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| 20:56.31 | blubberdiblub | JarJarBinks: what messages do you get? |
| 20:56.38 | tabris|a1ay | !unp |
| 20:56.38 | dpkg | [unp] a tool to run an appropriate unpacking/extracting program for various compressed file formats. It tells loudly if the appropriate program (eg. unrar) is not installed and how to install it. |
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| 20:57.01 | JarJarBinks | !paste |
| 20:57.01 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 20:57.27 | valdyn | JarJarBinks: is your system crashing regularily too? |
| 20:57.57 | JarJarBinks | valdyn: no |
| 20:58.05 | valdyn | JarJarBinks: i would change the mirror |
| 20:58.06 | DawnLight | does anyone know how well the usb external HDD cases play with linux? |
| 20:58.15 | valdyn | DawnLight: just fine |
| 20:58.44 | DawnLight | how is the device named? |
| 20:58.57 | valdyn | DawnLight: sd* |
| 20:58.57 | Heston | just make sure you have usb 2.0 |
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| 20:59.41 | JarJarBinks | http://paste.debian.net/32868 |
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| 21:00.27 | valdyn | JarJarBinks: use different mirrrors |
| 21:00.31 | JarJarBinks | hmm, apt-get was angry about nerim and bootsplash... removed bootsplash from sources.list, apt-get runs fine |
| 21:00.40 | JarJarBinks | thanks valdyn -- it helped indeed |
| 21:01.02 | DawnLight | thanks |
| 21:01.27 | JarJarBinks | DawnLight: tail -F /var/log/messages when you plug/unplug stuff |
| 21:02.09 | xjih78 | im using 2.6.18-4-686 generic kernel and fluxbox wm. |
| 21:02.15 | xjih78 | i can change keymap only under root |
| 21:02.20 | xjih78 | how can this be fixed? |
| 21:02.29 | JarJarBinks | setxkmap us |
| 21:02.31 | valdyn | !keymap |
| 21:02.31 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx, or in console you can also use loadkeys (for once) |
| 21:02.31 | JarJarBinks | does nothing? |
| 21:03.12 | JarJarBinks | s/setxkmap/setxkbmap/ |
| 21:03.15 | xjih78 | valdyn, i tried that. |
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| 21:03.31 | JarJarBinks | xjih78: is it in X or tty |
| 21:03.36 | JarJarBinks | tty < 7 |
| 21:03.38 | valdyn | xjih78: 'that' ? i see alot of things mentioned |
| 21:03.46 | xjih78 | $ setxkbmap bg |
| 21:03.46 | xjih78 | Error loading new keyboard description |
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| 21:03.55 | valdyn | bg? |
| 21:03.56 | xjih78 | and the dpkg before |
| 21:04.00 | xjih78 | bulgarian :) |
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| 21:04.17 | JarJarBinks | xjih78: but you can do it as root? |
| 21:04.18 | subx | mplayer only works as root, how can i make it work for a user? |
| 21:04.25 | xjih78 | yes |
| 21:04.30 | valdyn | subx: it works as a user too |
| 21:04.37 | JarJarBinks | heh |
| 21:04.38 | valdyn | subx: which command precisely is giving which error |
| 21:04.41 | DawnLight | JarJarBinks: thats a good idea. thanks |
| 21:04.52 | JarJarBinks | DawnLight: np |
| 21:04.54 | Pablo | last night I ran updates when my machine told me there was some... and now it says Cannot initiaalize hal... any suggestions? |
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| 21:06.44 | subx | valdyn: i used mplayer song.mp3 . as a user it gives lots of errors like: returned error: No such device |
| 21:06.48 | subx | but it works ok as root |
| 21:06.55 | TbbW | hello i installed debian on a friends computer with openoffice and thunderbird ( iceweesle ) |
| 21:07.01 | JarJarBinks | xjih78: locate keymap | grep bg | xargs -l ls -l |
| 21:07.07 | JarJarBinks | do you have permissions to read the file |
| 21:07.16 | valdyn | subx: type 'groups', tell the output ( as a user ) |
| 21:07.20 | TbbW | and after he did some classical office work he discoverd that he had some problems with cutting and pasting |
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| 21:07.38 | xjih78 | JarJarBinks, no. that seems to be the prob |
| 21:07.43 | subx | groups |
| 21:07.45 | subx | subx |
| 21:07.46 | TbbW | the mouse pops two rows lower when he paste's and also he may get a bonus paste when he paste once |
| 21:07.47 | subx | thats it |
| 21:08.03 | valdyn | subx: 'adduser subx audio' |
| 21:08.31 | TbbW | it's not only in openoffice i asked him to try Gedit to see if it does the same there and it did... i'm totaly pussled about what may cause this that's why i'm asking if anyone else had the same experience |
| 21:08.38 | JarJarBinks | valdyn: thought you were the type to do that with sed -i |
| 21:08.39 | xjih78 | JarJarBinks, i need only read. right? |
| 21:08.46 | JarJarBinks | xjih78: yeah |
| 21:08.50 | xjih78 | my mistake -rw-r--r-- |
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| 21:08.58 | xjih78 | on all of them |
| 21:09.02 | Carry | hello, how many of the iso's (cd) do i need to start? Not 21 i hope ;) .. |
| 21:09.04 | JarJarBinks | is fine |
| 21:09.09 | valdyn | Carry: one |
| 21:09.12 | subx | valdyn: still lots of errors like: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Permission denied |
| 21:09.23 | valdyn | subx: right, that;'s fine |
| 21:09.26 | JarJarBinks | Carry: the first |
| 21:09.38 | Bogus8 | what is the linux command that allows you to append binary files together... in dos you just do `copy file1+file2 combined_file` |
| 21:09.39 | valdyn | subx: groups only effectively change after you relogin |
| 21:09.40 | JarJarBinks | subx: need to login again |
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| 21:09.47 | subx | aye ok :) |
| 21:09.49 | subx | brb |
| 21:09.49 | Carry | valdyn: and for nice gui to start :) ? |
| 21:09.50 | JarJarBinks | or actually source the environment IIUC |
| 21:09.51 | xjih78 | subx, chmod a+rw /dev/dsp* |
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| 21:10.08 | Carry | JarJarBinks: valdyn thanks.. |
| 21:10.11 | DawnLight | does running debian live succesfully indicate that it would be okay, hardware compatibility wise, to install debian? |
| 21:10.32 | JarJarBinks | DawnLight: only if it works on the live :) |
| 21:10.51 | xjih78 | JarJarBinks, they're all with read permissions |
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| 21:11.29 | chop1 | Bogus8: cat file1 file2 > combined_file |
| 21:11.48 | microtux | i have a problem with my hard drive, while i'm trying to install debian a problem accurs(the apt was unable to retrieve packs from repositories); so i canceled the installatio and tried again. the second time, yhe installer was unable to recognize the hard drive |
| 21:11.50 | Bogus8 | chop1: that's what I was thinking... even looked at the man file... just didn't see anything about binary files |
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| 21:12.25 | chop1 | Bogus8: Binary files are not handled differently from text in Unix-like systems. |
| 21:12.29 | microtux | i have a maxtor with 80 GB, i put it on another pc and its size now is 8GB |
| 21:12.35 | Marupa | any one in here use rtorrent extensively? |
| 21:12.35 | Bogus8 | chop1: good to know... thanks |
| 21:12.43 | chop1 | Bogus8: At least, not in that way. |
| 21:12.46 | microtux | any help? |
| 21:12.59 | valdyn | Marupa: ask your real question |
| 21:13.10 | JarJarBinks | heh |
| 21:13.20 | subx | it works thanks for your help |
| 21:13.23 | JarJarBinks | np |
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| 21:13.52 | jae | Is gnupg braindead, or am I? |
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| 21:13.59 | nslater | Has anyone heard of virtualbox? |
| 21:14.09 | Marupa | Is there a way to pause a torrent in rtorrent, log out entirely, then a dffrent day pick it up later, if you don't have a .rc? |
| 21:14.09 | valdyn | !virtualbox |
| 21:14.09 | dpkg | virtualbox is probably a virtual machine solution. Check out the website http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 21:14.15 | spheard | !ket |
| 21:14.19 | spheard | !key |
| 21:14.19 | dpkg | somebody said key was Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
| 21:14.30 | nslater | I want to know if anyone knows why it isn't in Debian. |
| 21:14.31 | valdyn | Marupa: sure |
| 21:14.49 | microtux | hey, any body could help?? i'm really in a bad situation |
| 21:15.10 | valdyn | Marupa: just do it, its automagic |
| 21:15.21 | JarJarBinks | Marupa: tha's how it usually work... bit btlauncmanycurses at least |
| 21:15.29 | JarJarBinks | s/bit/with |
| 21:15.44 | Bogus8 | chop1: if they are all numbered in sequence "file.000 file.001" and so on.. is there a way to use wildcards or something vs typing each name in the command line? |
| 21:15.55 | Marupa | I mostly just want to consolidate the multiple ssh windows I currently have. |
| 21:15.57 | chop1 | Bogus8: cat file.* > combined_file |
| 21:16.09 | microtux | thx guys |
| 21:16.25 | Bogus8 | chop1: cool, I was gonna attempt it but figured i'd ask vs waste the time... just had to wait till this one is done (did it manually this time) |
| 21:16.30 | Marupa | preferrably into one rtorrent windw. |
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| 21:16.58 | valdyn | Marupa: uh, you're running multiple rtorrent? |
| 21:16.59 | JarJarBinks | microtux: just ask your question |
| 21:17.14 | capiira | hmm whats the command to let aptitude install recommended packages aswell wihile doing a dist-upgrade? |
| 21:17.14 | jae | Which keys should one trust "ultimately"... and does gnupg really require ultimate trust to encrypt to a key? Why? |
| 21:17.20 | Marupa | it's my first time using it, didn't know what I was doing. |
| 21:17.21 | microtux | JarJarBinks, i have a problem with my hard drive, while i'm trying to install debian a problem accurs(the apt was unable to retrieve packs from repositories); so i canceled the installatio and tried again. the second time, yhe installer was unable to recognize the hard drive |
| 21:17.27 | jae | (and this is *so* off-topic, but it's too warm to care) |
| 21:17.28 | valdyn | jae: ultimate is your own |
| 21:17.43 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: you around |
| 21:17.45 | ghatak_mobile | ? |
| 21:17.56 | spheard | Is there an install that installes everything apache? |
| 21:18.00 | spheard | is t advisable? |
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| 21:18.08 | jae | valdyn: it complains if the key is only fully trusted (and it is my own, but only the public part) |
| 21:18.11 | valdyn | jae: you dont need trust at all to 'encrypt to a key', you only need the public key |
| 21:18.12 | chop1 | spheard: apt-get install apache? |
| 21:18.26 | spheard | chop1 I mean all the assoc modules etc |
| 21:18.39 | Marupa | I suppose I shouold probably read the manpages before I usse a program, eh? |
| 21:18.41 | chop1 | spheard: I would advise against installing all the assoc modules etc. |
| 21:18.43 | jae | valdyn: I thought so too, but it just complains, and I haven't found the proper incantation |
| 21:18.46 | ghatak_mobile | how do i put a package on hold while doing dist-upgrade ? |
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| 21:18.48 | JarJarBinks | microtux: how did you "cancel" |
| 21:18.51 | chop1 | spheard: What are you trying to do? |
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| 21:19.02 | valdyn | Marupa: just play around. Worst case you will have to readd the torrent |
| 21:19.03 | Marupa | but upon reading them I haven't found any way to do multple torrents in a single rtorrent session. |
| 21:19.12 | MangosDebian | jae: gpg --edit-key <keyid>, then lsign it |
| 21:19.13 | valdyn | Marupa: and rtorrent might have to recheck what's already downloaded |
| 21:19.18 | Marupa | it's 30% out of 4GB. |
| 21:19.24 | microtux | JarJarBinks, i rebooted the PC by pressing the reset button; :( |
| 21:19.35 | valdyn | Marupa: you just hit backspace in rtorrent and add a torrent |
| 21:19.37 | jae | gpg --armor --encrypt-to 2e7aaacd --encrypt --batch -r 2e7aaacd |
| 21:19.38 | JarJarBinks | microtux: hmm |
| 21:19.54 | jae | It then tells me "There is no assurance blah blah" |
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| 21:20.15 | Marupa | valdyn if I move the files that were downlloaded after I close the extra seessions to the working directory of the new main rtorrent session, will it pick it up where it left off/ |
| 21:20.17 | JarJarBinks | microtux: you don't sound like you'd be able to use the boot-media as rescue disc |
| 21:20.43 | JarJarBinks | and I can't guide you I'm affraid |
| 21:20.45 | jae | MangosDebian: edit key is enough (and I can't/won't lsign... this would mean making a new key pair, and I don't like doing this for... actually no real use at all) |
| 21:21.03 | valdyn | Marupa: yea |
| 21:21.14 | microtux | JarJarBinks, no problem; thx for trying to help |
| 21:21.20 | Marupa | valdyn: allright, hope this works. |
| 21:21.20 | MangosDebian | jae: try "trust" command sry |
| 21:21.28 | abrotman | ghatak_mobile: ? |
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| 21:21.42 | microtux | JarJarBinks, i think i'l download powerMax and format low-level the HD |
| 21:21.45 | valdyn | Marupa: im not sure how this works with sparse files though, DO keep the original download first |
| 21:21.52 | Marupa | mkay |
| 21:21.59 | jae | MangosDebian: I know how to set trust ;) |
| 21:22.16 | MangosDebian | jae: then whats your problem? |
| 21:22.21 | JarJarBinks | microtux: don't know what powerMax is... try a live cd, perhaps you'll find some graphical tools to assist you |
| 21:22.23 | jae | I just wonder why it doesn't accept "fully" trusted |
| 21:22.36 | JarJarBinks | microtux: sounds like a windows app anyhow |
| 21:22.56 | microtux | PowerMax is a tool for Maxtor hard drives |
| 21:23.02 | JarJarBinks | heh okay |
| 21:23.04 | jae | MangosDebian: my problem is curiousity :) |
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| 21:23.11 | JarJarBinks | microtux: sounds like a good plan |
| 21:23.11 | valdyn | low level format is so 80ies |
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| 21:23.19 | valdyn | 1980ies =/ |
| 21:23.27 | JarJarBinks | :) |
| 21:23.31 | los | hey, i have a big trouble:P |
| 21:23.33 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: you advised earlier that i should put mysql on hold, how do i do that, tried that in aptitude, but that seems to still upgrade mysql anyway |
| 21:23.33 | microtux | JarJarBinks, yep, my debian is dead now; can't use Linux :( |
| 21:23.37 | MangosDebian | jae: well, I got to where I am via the same route, so I can't really complain :) |
| 21:23.43 | JarJarBinks | microtux: use a live cd |
| 21:23.47 | JarJarBinks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:24.07 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: just wondering if there was another way of puting mysql on hold and doing dist-upgrade |
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| 21:24.33 | microtux | JarJarBinks, i'll try |
| 21:24.43 | jae | My situation: I have a server, and want to encrypt a tarball of the server config to my key (and I'll fetch that tarball to my local machine in a cronjob) |
| 21:24.47 | JarJarBinks | you need to be able to burn a live though |
| 21:24.50 | JarJarBinks | good luck microtux |
| 21:24.50 | los | i have *,deb package on my drive and i want to install it with all Dependences |
| 21:24.56 | JarJarBinks | with powermax or live media |
| 21:24.58 | abrotman | ghatak_mobile: ah .. duh on my part .. a dist-upgrade will kill the hold |
| 21:25.00 | los | how can i do it? |
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| 21:25.06 | microtux | JarJarBinks, thx ;) |
| 21:25.30 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: :~| |
| 21:25.35 | los | can someone help me:P? |
| 21:25.36 | jae | Now, I don't want to make a new key for that, I thought I'd just use my public key... so I fetched it off a keyserver, which means the keyring on the server just contains this one public key |
| 21:25.46 | abrotman | ghatak_mobile: which is why i recommended a better course of action |
| 21:26.03 | jae | And now it seems I have to set the trust to ultimate just to encrypt to it, and this really bothers me |
| 21:26.09 | ghatak_mobile | abrotman: yea, true, |
| 21:26.31 | jae | (As valdyn said, "ultimate" is meant for your own keys, where you also have the private key) |
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| 21:26.55 | los | hey people?!:P |
| 21:27.15 | los | help me please;] |
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| 21:27.24 | MangosDebian | jae: theres nothing wrong, your supposed to ultimately trust it. Its your key, you should be able to verify the fingerprint |
| 21:28.03 | Marupa | valdyn: it says 'closed' / inactive. what gives? |
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| 21:28.51 | cafuego | los: dpkg -i <debfile>; apt-get -f install |
| 21:29.06 | subx | what package do i install for db_load ? |
| 21:29.21 | valdyn | Marupa: start it |
| 21:29.23 | subx | i tried apt-cache search db_load but nothing |
| 21:29.23 | abrotman | !search |
| 21:29.23 | dpkg | search is probably try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 21:29.42 | subx | apt-cache search db_load |
| 21:29.47 | Marupa | valdyn: uh...how? |
| 21:29.53 | valdyn | Marupa: 'rtorrent -h' gives keyboard commands |
| 21:29.59 | valdyn | Marupa: ctrl-s |
| 21:30.04 | Marupa | thanks |
| 21:30.17 | cafuego | Marupa: ^s to start a torrent |
| 21:30.19 | Marupa | tthanks so much this'll be waaaay more efficient. |
| 21:30.25 | MangosDebian | subx: perhaps what you need to a better understand of what a "regex" is before you can effectively search |
| 21:30.27 | Marupa | and less cluttery on my taskbar Xd |
| 21:30.29 | Marupa | XD* |
| 21:30.44 | valdyn | Marupa: and run it in screen |
| 21:30.50 | MangosDebian | s/to// |
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| 21:31.49 | Marupa | thank you all so much. You make my life so much easier :D |
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| 21:33.57 | lusher00 | what do i need to do to install a .deb package? |
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| 21:34.31 | MangosDebian | most would use dpkg ;) |
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| 21:36.21 | lusher00 | can i get a little more detailed instructions? |
| 21:36.23 | muh2000 | wtf goatse |
| 21:36.29 | MangosDebian | jae: btw, you do have the private key still right? |
| 21:36.41 | muh2000 | how to start analog ? it is installed but where can i see the stats ? |
| 21:36.42 | MangosDebian | lusher00: dpkg -i <filename.deb> |
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| 21:37.44 | MangosDebian | lusher00: ...without the <>'s of course as they are historically used to indicate <mandatory> and [optional] params |
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| 21:43.05 | xjih78 | im using 2.6.18-4-686 generic kernel and fluxbox wm newest manager. reconfigured console-data, checked permissions but still xkb doesn't change keymap. |
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| 21:44.09 | stew | xjih78: you are trying to change the keymap in x or in console? |
| 21:44.45 | xjih78 | in x. |
| 21:44.56 | xjih78 | i can only do it as root. |
| 21:44.59 | stew | xjih78: how are you trying to change it? |
| 21:45.45 | stew | xjih78: (console-data has nothing to do with X) |
| 21:47.37 | xjih78 | steve, alt+shift. the way i set it in the xorg.conf |
| 21:47.57 | xjih78 | it worked before a power failure |
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| 21:48.44 | xjih78 | after booting i couldn't neither use mod4 for my keyboard shortcuts on fluxbox |
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| 21:49.02 | armbar | hello |
| 21:49.22 | armbar | does debian 4 have ip tables configured |
| 21:49.30 | abrotman | configured .. no |
| 21:49.38 | abrotman | it's there for you to configure though |
| 21:49.44 | stew | armbar: what do you mean, exactly? |
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| 21:50.03 | armbar | firewall |
| 21:50.09 | abrotman | it's not on by default |
| 21:50.11 | stew | armbar: what do you mean by "configured"? |
| 21:50.14 | abrotman | erm .. wait .. |
| 21:50.31 | armbar | ssh only work from the local lan and not the internet |
| 21:50.52 | valdyn | armbar: because you have an additional router between the server and the internet? |
| 21:50.55 | armbar | problem with my router or debian box? |
| 21:50.58 | stew | armbar: then no, something like that would not be configured in iptables by default |
| 21:50.58 | azeem | armbar: do you think this is a reasonable default configuration for everybody? |
| 21:50.59 | MangosDebian | armbar: router setup to forward? |
| 21:51.00 | valdyn | armbar: router |
| 21:51.06 | armbar | ok |
| 21:51.55 | sayers | !amd flash |
| 21:51.57 | sayers | !flash |
| 21:51.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, flash is http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 21:52.25 | spheard | chop1: I want to set up a test virtual server image for people to play with |
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| 21:53.30 | chop1 | spheard: Hm, I would install php and perl and leave it at that myself... but if you want to install a boatload of modules you can do that. |
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| 21:54.17 | SamuraiDio | i'm installing E17 on my pc, the default bin and lib paths on deb are under /usr, and not /usr/local, right? |
| 21:54.28 | valdyn | SamuraiDio: umm |
| 21:54.35 | jae | MangosDebian: yup, of course (says he who has an older, pre-gnupg key where the secret key went missing :P) |
| 21:54.44 | cafuego | SamuraiDio: Why not just install deb debs? |
| 21:55.01 | SamuraiDio | cafuego, because there's no good ones |
| 21:55.04 | SamuraiDio | its CVS |
| 21:55.12 | valdyn | SamuraiDio: /usr/local is ok for non-debian stuff, everything else in /usr is debs |
| 21:55.14 | cafuego | the ones I use work fine |
| 21:55.15 | MangosDebian | jae: :) |
| 21:55.22 | SamuraiDio | valdyn, ok, tnx |
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| 21:55.50 | cafuego | SamuraiDio: What valyn is saying, configure with prefix=/usr/local |
| 21:56.01 | cafuego | SamuraiDio: and don't let 'make install' dump stuff on /usr |
| 21:56.06 | SamuraiDio | sure, thats the default |
| 21:56.13 | djones | hello |
| 21:56.25 | cafuego | SamuraiDio: A better bet still would be to use checkinstall |
| 21:56.32 | MangosDebian | jae: just be sure to remove the secret key from that machine and gen a revoke cert and store in a safe place |
| 21:57.15 | MangosDebian | jae: if your goal is to just encrypt data to important files and store on that machine |
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| 21:58.14 | MangosDebian | i mean if archival is the goal and you dont need to access the data often |
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| 21:59.36 | seth1248 | Can anyone help me diagnose a problem: I added a keyboard layout in control center and now my arrow keys do not work. |
| 21:59.45 | seth1248 | I need to see if there is some configuration file that is being changed when I run control center. |
| 22:00.29 | valdyn | seth1248: gnome's control center? |
| 22:00.36 | valdyn | seth1248: or what are you talking about? |
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| 22:01.17 | djones | hello |
| 22:01.34 | seth1248 | valdyn: sorry kde's control center - but it's affecting gnome also. |
| 22:01.39 | bonez39 | djones, eh? |
| 22:01.49 | jae | MangosDebian: I don't have the secret key on the server, only the public one (and I won't even *think* about putting the secret key in such an exposed location) |
| 22:02.00 | valdyn | seth1248: affecting gnome apps taht you run in kde maybe |
| 22:02.18 | MangosDebian | jae: ok, your all set then :) |
| 22:02.23 | jae | MangosDebian: thanks for reminder anyway :) |
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| 22:02.40 | valdyn | seth1248: and affecting all apps you run in kde, but nothing beyodn that.. |
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| 22:02.57 | djones | haha |
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| 22:03.40 | sayers | How would I get Flash to work on AMD64 / |
| 22:03.53 | seth1248 | valdyn: No when I log out and then log in from gdm to my default gnome desktop the arrow keys now don't work there either. So it seems that kde's control center is changing some configuration file used by gnome also. |
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| 22:04.06 | jae | Just checked the fingerprint (actually forgot to do that, given I got it off a keyserver)... and I actually remember parts of it (tried to memorize it, once upon a time ;)) |
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| 22:05.15 | valdyn | seth1248: nah |
| 22:05.33 | valdyn | seth1248: quit X first ( ctrl-alt-backspace ) |
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| 22:06.09 | streuner | seth1248: please ask in ONE channel |
| 22:06.19 | streuner | not in serveral other ones |
| 22:06.29 | valdyn | streuner: guess that's why hes slow |
| 22:06.39 | valdyn | *plonk* |
| 22:06.50 | peter_ | what about Netscape Navigator in Debian? |
| 22:07.00 | valdyn | peter_: what about it? |
| 22:07.02 | streuner | its not in any distro |
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| 22:07.15 | subx | does debian etch + pam use the berkley database 4 system? |
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| 22:07.24 | peter_ | valdyn, is it popular ? |
| 22:07.29 | valdyn | peter_: no |
| 22:07.47 | peter_ | valdyn, iceape has few icons like netscape |
| 22:08.04 | valdyn | peter_: 'few icons like netscape' ? |
| 22:08.09 | valdyn | peter_: i dont know what you mean |
| 22:08.27 | valdyn | peter_: both use the same backend anyway |
| 22:08.30 | peter_ | valdyn, nvm, meaby Im wrong |
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| 22:10.38 | TrueDD | good night all |
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| 22:12.12 | pickcoder | how can I break out the installgui into a nomal console install? |
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| 22:15.54 | seth1248 | valdyn: I have quit X - I have even rebooted. |
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| 22:16.44 | armbar | valdyn: assuming I have an acl in my router that says permit ip any any and I can get to the ssh server locally, what could stop it from being access remotely? |
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| 22:17.51 | mrsno | armbar is the router configured to allow a port forwarded to the ip of the ssh server? |
| 22:19.02 | valdyn | armbar: not having portforwarding enabled for the ssh port |
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| 22:19.44 | saces | hi. my english is poor :( http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/51159noclue.png |
| 22:19.49 | armbar | valdyn: the server has a pub ip |
| 22:20.03 | armbar | no need to port forward |
| 22:20.06 | valdyn | armbar: both, the server and the router do? |
| 22:20.36 | armbar | yep, a 209.120/16 block |
| 22:20.55 | valdyn | armbar: let me see both ips |
| 22:21.01 | armbar | noooooooo |
| 22:21.17 | armbar | I can ping the ip |
| 22:21.20 | seth1248 | streuner: Why ask in only 1 channel - if no one from one channel has info why not ask in another? |
| 22:21.24 | valdyn | armbar: duh, its public ips, hiding them isnt going to help anything |
| 22:22.05 | armbar | if you can see mine now just change that to a .19 |
| 22:22.10 | valdyn | armbar: traceroute both, see where its getting to |
| 22:22.18 | armbar | ok |
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| 22:22.25 | armbar | let ne just nmap it |
| 22:23.16 | valdyn | armbar: 19 for the router or the server? |
| 22:23.21 | armbar | server |
| 22:23.23 | armbar | 22/tcp filtered ssh |
| 22:23.25 | armbar | wtf |
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| 22:24.31 | valdyn | armbar: right |
| 22:24.37 | valdyn | armbar: you have a filtering router somewhere |
| 22:24.54 | armbar | valdyn: ok |
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| 22:25.10 | valdyn | armbar: port 21 is untouched: connections refused, port 22 is 'No route to host' |
| 22:25.27 | armbar | ok |
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| 22:25.40 | armbar | what does that mean? ssh config problem? |
| 22:25.48 | karsten | saces: Got a question? |
| 22:26.00 | King_Brad | armbar do you have a router? |
| 22:26.02 | fungo | hi, what's a good software to rip dvds on debian? |
| 22:26.12 | zinx | dd? |
| 22:26.17 | valdyn | armbar: not really, its filtered means that one router on the way is messing with it |
| 22:26.18 | fungo | cat? |
| 22:26.24 | valdyn | armbar: might be your own router or whatever |
| 22:26.34 | armbar | valdyn: ok |
| 22:26.52 | valdyn | armbar: its filtered for .23 jsut the same |
| 22:26.56 | seth1248 | saces: Are you reffering to the failed line? |
| 22:27.05 | King_Brad | may be able to change the SSH port, that might help a bit... |
| 22:27.07 | saces | the mount of network drives goes befor the network is startet. |
| 22:27.08 | fungo | zinx also, do you know a good program to watch dvds? with support to menus and that stuff? :) |
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| 22:27.16 | karsten | fungo: apt-cache search rip dvd |
| 22:27.26 | saces | yes, the failed line. |
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| 22:27.54 | seth1248 | saces: you do not have networking set up? |
| 22:28.02 | pickcoder | armbar: netstat -a | grep ssh |
| 22:28.33 | zinx | fungo: depends on where you are. libraries that decode CSS are illegal here in the US, so it's impossible to watch DVDs that are encrypted with it |
| 22:28.42 | armbar | pickcoder: netstat -a | grep ssh |
| 22:28.44 | armbar | tcp6 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN |
| 22:28.45 | armbar | tcp6 0 52 SER1:ssh ::ffff:209.120.140:1961 ESTABLISHED |
| 22:28.47 | armbar | tcp6 0 0 SER1:ssh ::ffff:8.9.192.78:50649 ESTABLISHED |
| 22:28.53 | fungo | zinx i'm in brazil |
| 22:28.57 | zinx | fungo: otherwise, try xine or vlc or ogle or etc etc, apt-cache search will help |
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| 22:29.14 | saces | seth1248: its work all proper (mount by hand), only at startup its goes in wrong order... (see pic) |
| 22:29.28 | karsten | fungo: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 22:29.29 | pickcoder | looks like there's 2 connections |
| 22:29.33 | pickcoder | what's the issue? |
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| 22:29.45 | armbar | port 443 worked |
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| 22:30.02 | valdyn | armbar: hope 12:4.68.122.45 : ssh works; hop 13: 209.246.136.6 ssh filtered, 209.120.140.19 is hop 14 |
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| 22:31.55 | valdyn | pickcoder: ssh port is being filtered by his isp |
| 22:32.06 | armbar | valdyn: how did you do that? |
| 22:32.11 | armbar | traceroute |
| 22:32.25 | valdyn | armbar: uh? i just run the command |
| 22:32.31 | valdyn | armbar: traceroute 209.120.140.19 |
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| 22:32.53 | armbar | valdyn: ahh |
| 22:33.37 | armbar | valdyn: thanks! |
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| 22:34.15 | karsten | valdyn: Sorry, inbound or outbound SSH? |
| 22:34.31 | valdyn | karsten: inbound |
| 22:35.23 | karsten | armbar: Run your SSH daemon listening on a second port. Eg: 23, 21, 8022, 2222. Doesn't particularly matter, except you'll need to remember this when sshing to that box. |
| 22:35.41 | armbar | karsten: ok |
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| 22:36.10 | armbar | valdyn: did you add anything besides traceroute ip -p 22 |
| 22:36.16 | valdyn | maybe they are doing this to avoid those bruteforcing bots |
| 22:36.29 | valdyn | armbar: i dont use traceroute to test the port |
| 22:36.47 | valdyn | armbar: i use 'telnet <ip> <port>' to do that |
| 22:36.47 | armbar | valdyn: what then? |
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| 22:37.02 | karsten | armbar: You might also want to ask your ISP why they're doing this and/or what their policy on running services is. |
| 22:37.29 | armbar | yep |
| 22:38.18 | armbar | valdyn: how did you get "hop 12:4.68.122.45 : ssh works; hop 13: 209.246.136.6 ssh filtered, 209.120.140.19 is hop 14"? |
| 22:38.40 | valdyn | armbar: traceroute gives those numbes |
| 22:38.42 | valdyn | armbar: traceroute gives those numbers |
| 22:38.49 | Caelum | how do I tell tcpdump to just give me the text contents of packets? |
| 22:38.58 | tarzeau | Caelum: just use ngrep ? |
| 22:39.18 | valdyn | armbar: those numbers are relative to my position in the net - point is they are adjacent so you see where its breaking ssh |
| 22:39.21 | Caelum | it just gives me stuff like win ack etc... |
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| 22:43.12 | saces | my problem is fixed. it was a typo in fstab. thanks. |
| 22:43.39 | awox | compiz doesn't like xinerama : |
| 22:43.40 | awox | ( |
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| 22:45.06 | iod | i added pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/sysconfig/iptables to /etc/network/interfaces where iptables is what was generated by iptables-save. it didn't bring up the firewall though when i rebooted. i have pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/sysconfig/iptables right after auto lo eth0 and iface lo inet loopback ... am i suppose to do something else? or did i do this wrong? |
| 22:45.26 | spheard | How easy is it to set up a debain repository? |
| 22:45.32 | tarzeau | spheard: very |
| 22:45.59 | tarzeau | spheard: managing the software is how i do it: http://wiki.debian.org/Enterprise |
| 22:46.24 | eldowan | I am having to reload a home server due to a root disc failure(the drive won't come up in ANY system). It had sarge, but I'm going to put etch on it. The server was mostly an NFS server. I don't remember if I used the kernel or userspace version. Is there a benifit to one over the other? |
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| 22:48.26 | eldowan | if it makes any difference here is the line in my clients fstab which worked flawlessly: 199.30.30.186:/media/media /media/p3 nfs hard,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 |
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| 22:50.09 | bolt | how can I get both the local time and the GMT from one command? |
| 22:50.15 | bolt | i know it's there, i just can't remember it |
| 22:50.16 | bolt | gah |
| 22:50.49 | Zemus | Hello. :) I'm about to compile pidgin from source. I was wondering if someone could give me a quick walkthrough of what a good place would be to put the source files, where I should install it to, etc. Anyone? |
| 22:51.27 | valdyn | Zemus: why? what's wrong with the debian packages? |
| 22:51.35 | Zemus | I want to learn :D |
| 22:51.46 | tarzeau | Zemus: apt-get -b source pidgin |
| 22:51.48 | valdyn | Zemus: learn how to build a deb from source |
| 22:52.01 | blinx | I have a ts mpg file and want to cut it without any audio delay |
| 22:52.09 | blinx | which tool you can recommend? |
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| 22:52.14 | Zemus | Ok. Do you want to show me how to do that, or provide me with a link that can teach me? :) |
| 22:52.19 | tarzeau | blinx: audio delay? |
| 22:52.30 | tarzeau | Zemus: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 22:52.32 | blinx | tarzeau: the audio / video synchronization is not good |
| 22:52.42 | valdyn | Zemus: tarzeau just did tell how to build |
| 22:52.44 | tarzeau | blinx: with which player? or in the file itself? |
| 22:52.45 | blinx | lol linuks |
| 22:52.54 | tarzeau | blinx: there's kino and cinelerra |
| 22:52.54 | blinx | tarzeau: it is IN the file |
| 22:53.05 | tarzeau | blinx: some languages don't have the letter x |
| 22:53.19 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 22:53.19 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs. |
| 22:53.24 | Zemus | apt-get -b source pidgin... that builds a deb package? And where does the deb go? And what do I do with the deb? Sorry to be such a noob. :$ |
| 22:53.24 | tarzeau | blinx: blinks, taksi, linuks. so what? |
| 22:53.26 | Guiwald | ++ everyone |
| 22:53.38 | tarzeau | Zemus: man apt-get |
| 22:53.42 | valdyn | Zemus: and read what dpkg said, between those things you should get along |
| 22:53.43 | Zemus | I've read that. |
| 22:53.48 | tarzeau | Zemus: read it again |
| 22:53.56 | Zemus | Good advice. xD Ok, thanks, will do. |
| 22:54.39 | Zemus | By the way, following dpkg's instructions to the letter... destroyed my linux system so bad I had to reinstall it completely. I backported pidgin. It messed up X really badly. This was yesterday. |
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| 22:55.14 | valdyn | Zemus: no, surely not |
| 22:55.22 | Zemus | valdyn, afraid so D: |
| 22:55.22 | valdyn | Zemus: backporting pidgin doesnt break X |
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| 22:55.27 | valdyn | Zemus: you did something else |
| 22:55.32 | Zemus | It resulted in the "Yes, do as I say!" thing. I probably did something else, yeah. |
| 22:55.42 | Zemus | I really did type in EXACTLY what it told me to, though. And there weren't that many commands. |
| 22:55.58 | azeem | what did it tell you to? |
| 22:56.00 | valdyn | Zemus: you used a deb line where you should have used a deb-src line, probably |
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| 22:56.08 | Zemus | valdyn, I bet that was it. |
| 22:56.16 | Zemus | It is very very vague on editing your sources.list file. |
| 22:56.28 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 22:56.28 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs. |
| 22:56.33 | Zemus | It made icons disappear, and made my mouse super sensitive. :P |
| 22:57.00 | valdyn | Zemus: it just sais 'deb-src' right, it doesnt explain details |
| 22:57.16 | Zemus | Yeah. |
| 22:57.28 | Zemus | I think so, I don't remember clearly. |
| 22:57.43 | Zemus | Besides, aren't we supposed to be using aptitude now? Not apt-get? |
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| 22:58.23 | valdyn | Zemus: i dont know if aptitude supports building packages. The differences and why we prefer aptitude now dont matter for doing that. |
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| 22:58.25 | dkr | it does a bit better job of resolving dependencies, it seems |
| 22:58.33 | Zemus | valdyn, score, thanks :> |
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| 23:06.31 | acu | did i miss the answer about how to find the latest ez publish in backports for etch ? |
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| 23:07.41 | azeem | acu: no |
| 23:07.49 | azeem | acu: did you check backports.org? |
| 23:09.22 | eldowan | what is the difference between userspace and kernelspace nfs, or where can I read info on the differences? |
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| 23:09.53 | lindenle | hi kids...looking to buy a new laptop any suggestions? |
| 23:10.25 | zinx | lindenle: most will work with debian, just make sure the wireless chipset is supported |
| 23:10.39 | zinx | lindenle: if you want 3d i'd recommend one with something other than an ATI video card |
| 23:10.44 | acu | i want to remove php4 and install php5 can I do apt-get remove --purge php ? |
| 23:10.58 | zinx | lindenle: at least for now. ATI tends to be a bit slow in Linux for 3d stuff. |
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| 23:14.14 | |dennis| | Question: I just edited the /udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules and changed it to suit my needs, will z25_persistent-net.rules on the next reboot change anything? do i need to edit z25_persistent-net.rules or just maing the changes in /udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules is good enough? |
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| 23:16.30 | S4nD3r | checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool How solve this error? |
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| 23:17.01 | S4nD3r | Im installing intltool |
| 23:17.08 | S4nD3r | I guess it will solve |
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| 23:17.20 | Pc_Dark | what's ag ood ftpd |
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| 23:17.26 | Pc_Dark | that uses my current users |
| 23:17.27 | Pc_Dark | like root |
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| 23:19.10 | abrotman | vsftpd or proftpd |
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| 23:19.28 | Pc_Dark | does it use my current users? |
| 23:19.40 | abrotman | depends how you configure it |
| 23:19.51 | Pc_Dark | I want to easily be able to configure it |
| 23:19.56 | abrotman | so try them both |
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| 23:20.57 | Pc_Dark | mk |
| 23:22.25 | lindenle | zinx: mostly I want lite been looking at lenovo x60 tablet |
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| 23:26.38 | abrotman | ladeedah .. |
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| 23:27.15 | pickcoder | !moo |
| 23:27.15 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:28.45 | regeya | that's cute. |
| 23:28.54 | regeya | aptitude moo |
| 23:28.55 | aptitude | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:28.56 | regeya | There are no Easter Eggs in this program. |
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| 23:29.07 | regeya | oy vey |
| 23:29.12 | abrotman | yes there are .. aptitude -vvvvv moo |
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| 23:31.49 | blinx | http://paste.debian.net/32878 <- anyone an idea? |
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| 23:32.11 | karsten | Heh. |
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| 23:33.29 | abrotman | blinx: yeah.. broken code |
| 23:33.37 | karsten | abrotman: You're such a little prince. |
| 23:33.49 | abrotman | thanks mom! |
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| 23:34.09 | abrotman | blinx: it might need a new version of SDL than you hav eon the system |
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| 23:35.03 | blinx | abrotman: why sdl? |
| 23:35.13 | karsten | abrotman: You're aware of the reference of that graphic? |
| 23:35.23 | valdyn | blinx: is that avidemux? what's wrong with the package from debian-multimedia.org ? |
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| 23:35.35 | abrotman | karsten: don't show me anymore pictures! |
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| 23:35.54 | blinx | valdyn: I don't know |
| 23:35.55 | karsten | abrotman: Deal. http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/littleprince/section1.html |
| 23:36.00 | blinx | it can't handle ts files |
| 23:36.10 | abrotman | i think i missed that one |
| 23:36.46 | karsten | abrotman: http://www.dancoulter.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/frightening.gif |
| 23:36.58 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:37.07 | karsten | abrotman: ... is pretty much the original. It's from Antoine de Saint Exuperey's _Little Prince_ |
| 23:37.34 | DawnLight | would it be ok to use a desktop external HDD as a portable one, and take it from place to place? |
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| 23:37.54 | karsten | abrotman: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=17-0156012197-1 |
| 23:38.06 | azeem | DawnLight: as long as you don't move it around while in operation, I guess so |
| 23:38.09 | karsten | DawnLight: Sure, you can even get enclosures to do that. |
| 23:38.11 | pickcoder | DawnLight: there are USB kits that help you do that |
| 23:38.16 | pickcoder | firewire also |
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| 23:38.20 | abrotman | karsten: buy it for me! :) |
| 23:38.23 | karsten | DawnLight: Mind, HDs don't particularly care for motion. |
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| 23:38.35 | abrotman | or rather .. quick motion :) |
| 23:38.42 | pickcoder | they make neat gyros |
| 23:38.42 | karsten | abrotman: I don't engage in child trafficking, thankyouverymuch. |
| 23:38.47 | abrotman | ew |
| 23:38.54 | DawnLight | how about lotion? |
| 23:38.55 | abrotman | pickcoder: mmm .. gyro |
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| 23:39.21 | pickcoder | gah.. I want food |
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| 23:39.53 | DawnLight | okay i'll buy an extenal, not portable one. reccomendations? |
| 23:40.38 | pickcoder | DawnLight: you can probably build your own cheaper than a pre-built external HDD |
| 23:40.40 | abrotman | DawnLight: how big of a drive is external but not portable ? |
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| 23:40.50 | karsten | DawnLight: Not Craptor (maxtor). I've had reasonable luck with Seagate and WD in general. |
| 23:40.58 | abrotman | !qotd158 |
| 23:40.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd158 is <paulswm> They don't make 2.25 ton mass storage drives any more :( |
| 23:41.04 | valdyn | maybe with a massive steel enclosure it'll be less portable ;) |
| 23:41.14 | karsten | DawnLight: How much storage do you need? 2 GB flash drives are ~$50. |
| 23:41.27 | pickcoder | I don't know of any drives made today that don't auto-park |
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| 23:41.34 | f00bar80 | hey i'm using debian sarge , i want to know is there any ability to make/modify a login screen with some options modifications (i.e. disable/enable firefox kiosk mdoe) for specific user profile ? |
| 23:41.54 | lindenle | so anybody out there have a lenovo thinkpad x61? and if so what do you hate about it? |
| 23:41.55 | pickcoder | ~any platter-based drives~ |
| 23:41.59 | DawnLight | pickcoder: you mean use an enclosure? |
| 23:42.22 | abrotman | lindenle: i will if you send me one! |
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| 23:42.25 | pickcoder | DawnLight: price a few "external" hard drives and then price an internal 3.5" drive and a USB2.0 kit |
| 23:42.37 | karsten | f00bar80: Well, considering that the login screen is a system setting, not associated with a user profile/login (you haven't logged in yet), the specific answer is "no". |
| 23:42.50 | JeremyK | quick question about start-stop-daemon: I'm using start-stop daemon to start a daemon written in perl, but for some reason it's not finding it when i execute --stop, and it's also attempting to start it again when i execute --start. is there some special handling i need to do with perl scripts? |
| 23:43.29 | karsten | f00bar80: However there's no reason you can't store different X display manager profiles, symlink them into place, and restart the X display manager, accomplishing much the same thing. You can also definitely configure user environments differently. |
| 23:43.42 | lindenle | abrotman: sorry brotman, though you probably deserve one |
| 23:43.53 | abrotman | lindenle: i've been eyeing them up anyways :) |
| 23:43.59 | karsten | JeremyK: Where are you storing your PID/runfiles? |
| 23:44.13 | abrotman | lindenle: do you have specific hardware questions ? |
| 23:44.16 | JeremyK | karsten: /var/run/ardaemon/ardaemon.pid .. and I have that in my init script |
| 23:44.24 | lindenle | abrotman: my gentoo freind has the tablet, but i think i will buy the normal one.... |
| 23:44.25 | DawnLight | thanks friends |
| 23:44.32 | karsten | lindenle: Nope. T42p here. |
| 23:44.50 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.59 | karsten | lindenle: Other than a useless trackpad, it's pretty good so far. Even has decent battery life. |
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| 23:45.07 | lindenle | karsten: A20 sitting at home playing file server ;) |
| 23:45.24 | f00bar80 | karsten: some extra pointers/guide to do so , again exactly what am i trying to do is give the user logging into the his profile to disable/enale a kiosk env |
| 23:45.26 | lindenle | karsten: I like track pad better personally, do they come with both |
| 23:45.42 | valdyn | f00bar80: why sarge when there's etch? |
| 23:45.53 | karsten | f00bar80: In general: ~/.Xsession |
| 23:46.02 | valdyn | f00bar80: im sure google knows how to lock down X btw |
| 23:46.04 | f00bar80 | valdyn: i didn't upgrade yet |
| 23:46.17 | karsten | f00bar80: You could configure specific users to kiosk or non-kiosk mode via shell settings, inits, etc. What are you doing now? |
| 23:46.25 | valdyn | !info pessulus etch |
| 23:46.29 | dpkg | pessulus: (lockdown editor for GNOME), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.10.4-1 (etch), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 796 kB |
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| 23:46.52 | lindenle | abrotman: have you heard of any hardware issues with x61? |
| 23:46.56 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 23:46.56 | dpkg | from memory, laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/ |
| 23:46.57 | f00bar80 | karsten: some more guides |
| 23:47.00 | abrotman | lindenle: i haven't personally ... |
| 23:47.14 | lindenle | abrotman: yeah I am at tux mobile now |
| 23:47.25 | abrotman | try the first link |
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| 23:47.53 | karsten | f00bar80: That's all I've got time for at present, sorry. |
| 23:48.13 | karsten | lindenle: debian-laptop (mailiing list) may be your best bet. |
| 23:48.14 | f00bar80 | karsten: what do u mean exactly by shell settings ? |
| 23:48.34 | JeremyK | karsten: running strace on it i see it fids the pid file, then looks at /proc/PID/stat and then complains that it can't find it |
| 23:48.38 | karsten | f00bar80: That's all I've got time for at present, sorry. |
| 23:48.53 | JeremyK | oh hell, i think i figured it out |
| 23:48.55 | lindenle | karsten: thinkwiki looks good too |
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| 23:49.18 | karsten | JeremyK: Are you capturing the right PID file? Is the executable doing a fork-exec and not remaining at the stored PID? |
| 23:49.31 | JeremyK | i'm writing the pid myself since i'm fork/execing |
| 23:49.45 | karsten | lindenle: Yeah, that can be useful. |
| 23:49.52 | JeremyK | I think I figured out what I did wrong though, lemme play around with it some more! |
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| 23:56.29 | stoned | ahhh boy |
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| 23:58.08 | ezu5t | hi - i'm trying to find sources for oldstable python-pgsql (for python 2.4). this link is dead: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/python/python-pgsql |
| 23:58.20 | ezu5t | is there another place I can look for it? |
| 23:59.05 | JeremyK | karsten: ok, now it won't prevent itself from starting the program because it checks /proc/PID/exe, which is /usr/bin/perl, which doesn't match how i'm starting it |
| 23:59.37 | valdyn | ezu5t: is that not python-pygresql ? |
